And the exercise thing, it's not just give them control of their life. It makes them happier. There's been studies that show it's much more effective than antidepressants.

But a lot of people take drugs, take pills that pharmaceutical companies prescribe because their life sucks. And when your life sucks, you will have a chemical imbalance in your brain, and that's a natural thing.

That's why all the studies show that forest bathing, walking in the forest, walking in the fields, just the sound of a babbling stream or brook is hundreds of times better than their psychotropic drugs that are actually destructive.

And if I had stopped at any point in time, I would never have actually got onto the meds that I'm on now, and they work perfectly.

You're doing it because you're struggling. Unless you're on a TV show. Is that a reality TV show yet? Getting help? Maybe you have a mental illness? That's all of them. Let's find out. Literally every reality show. That's a good point. But, like, I know a number of people who are mentally ill who consider getting help, and I always tell them, you know, I can't tell you what to do, but I really think... That there's help to be had if you want to go. I'll give you some resources. And I try and help people as much as they can. A lot of them don't ever follow through. No. So the idea that people are being forced into something is bizarre.