Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the Oct. 10 episode of The Alex Jones Show. Alex is all over the place about the Las Vegas shooting and Harvey Weinstein, but more importantly, Dan and Jordan call Larry Nichols to try to discuss his attempts to blackmail Congress.
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
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| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex. | ||
| Is there a twist to that? | ||
| I didn't say his last name today. | ||
| That's the twist. | ||
| Is that what we're doing now? | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| That's a little bit of a twist. | ||
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| Raise the fist. | ||
| This is desperate out of the gate. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| I have no rebuttal to that. | ||
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Fair enough. | |
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| What's going on out there, Kieran? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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| Ha ha. | ||
| All right, Jordan. | ||
| We're off to a great start. | ||
| Thanks, Kieran, by the way. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Nice to have you back in studio with me. | ||
| I'm excited about it. | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| But today, we're going to get into the episode 10-10. | ||
| 10 out of 10. October 10th. | ||
| We're going to get into it. | ||
| I have a very interesting exploration for us to do that I don't think you want to do. | ||
| But I have found a... | ||
| Let me just point this out. | ||
| Before we started, Dan was like... | ||
| Could you go get some more beer? | ||
| You might need it. | ||
| So that might be a bad sign for us. | ||
| You're angry, and I know this investigation of an obscure member. | ||
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Oh, am I angry? | |
| Yes. | ||
| So the chat room is going to go crazy and say, call Larry Nichols. | ||
| And we should say, we called Larry right before the show. | ||
| I called and texted him and left a message. | ||
| Hopefully he will call back or at least respond in some way. | ||
| We called because we knew if we just called and he didn't answer on the show, that's anticlimactic. | ||
| And on top of that... | ||
| It's bad podcasting. | ||
| There's an ethical thing where you need to warn him. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| So if he calls back, he could call back at any point during the show. | ||
| We will cancel the show and immediately talk to Larry Nichols. | ||
| My investigation about this obscure member of Team InfoWars is gone if Larry Nichols calls back in. | ||
| But we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I hope he calls. | ||
| And if not, then we'll try and call him tomorrow. | ||
| And we'll rename the show Knowledge Nichols. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| In order in honor of him. | ||
| That motherfucking piece of shit. | ||
| We're going to get to this episode, but until then, or before then, I'd like to play an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones. | ||
| Dr. Corsi is somewhat popular on air, and he does our political stuff in D.C. a lot. | ||
| He's done a lot of great stuff in the past. | ||
| He has a lot of great connections. | ||
| But it's not really sexy, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I do know. | ||
| He is somewhat popular. | ||
| Way to fucking cuck out your own guy. | ||
| Jesus, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's somewhat popular. | ||
| And not sexy. | ||
| No, definitely not sexy. | ||
| He goes on to immediately start talking about Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| And as the chat room knows, Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Sexy. | ||
| Eh, but I hope he gets hit by a truck. | ||
| A sexy truck, politically. | ||
| No! | ||
| I don't think I want either of those things to happen. | ||
| I think I mean it very literally, and I want it to be a truck that says, go fuck yourself Paul Joseph Watson on the side. | ||
| Crikey, or something like that. | ||
| Give it some English flair. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's in London. | ||
| Jolly old Lori hitting him. | ||
| Hey, all I want him to know is that he's in Barney Rubble. | ||
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, shall we start the show? | ||
| Do you need me to fill you in on what's been going on? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Okay, so Alex is spinning his wheels about the Las Vegas narrative, and because he was kind of getting bored and not being creative coming up with new elements of it, yesterday... | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to come up with new elements when your narrative is, it may have happened. | ||
| It's Antifa and ISIS and everyone I don't like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He switched yesterday onto a narrative he was misleading people about, about... | ||
| A measure that passed in LA, in California, where they made it a misdemeanor instead of a felony to knowingly transmit HIV to someone. | ||
| Yeah, what the fuck was that? | ||
| Well, the situation is, I mean, we talked about it on yesterday's show, but the motivation behind it was to destigmatize things because part of the law previously was you had to know you had it for it to be illegal to transmit it, which would discourage people from getting tested. | ||
| So that was the thinking behind the law. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| And all the advocacy groups are behind it. | ||
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Everybody who's in the know is supportive of it. | |
| I don't know anything about it, so maybe I shouldn't have a fucking take on it yet. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| Maybe I could just keep my fucking mouth shut for once. | ||
| Alex jumped onto that and explained that it's just a way for them to get HIV blood all over the country and kill millions of people. | ||
| Oh, well that also makes sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very convoluted. | ||
| He also is dipping his foot into the... | ||
| Sort of defending Harvey Weinstein game, which is contrarian as hell. | ||
| I don't know why he's doing that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no defending him! | ||
| There's not. | ||
| But we'll dip our toe into that a tiny bit on today's show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But that's sort of where we're at. | ||
| And now he starts the show off by getting back to the Las Vegas. | ||
| Still, huh? | ||
| You know other stuff is going on, Alex. | ||
| Not as important. | ||
| Here's where he's at today on October 10th. | ||
| Why am I opening the broadcast up with this today, nine days after one of the worst terror attacks in our country's history? | ||
| It's because they're doing two big things. | ||
| They're having Newsweek take the lead on disinformation while at the same time quietly letting the truth out so that as more comes out they don't get burned too bad. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| They're running big headline articles in Newsweek and a bunch of other places saying Alex Jones claims there was a second shooter, and here's his proof. | ||
| From Monday, where you can hear the gun going off, it looks like a muzzle flash, but by the end of the day, we found other videos. | ||
| It was a strobe light. | ||
| That's not what they were doing. | ||
| That's totally normal? | ||
| They ran it today. | ||
| In a bunch of publications like I just said it this week. | ||
| He's talking about an article that was in Newsweek, and if you actually go read the article, it says, on Monday Alex said this. | ||
| Yeah, but they're talking about it like he did say it this week. | ||
| No, they specifically say when he said it. | ||
| I know they said when he said it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they're saying it like they're not saying when he said it. | ||
| He gets tone from writing like nobody else. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| When I said it last week, this is just amazing how deceptive these people are. | ||
| No wonder it's hard for folks to figure out what's going on, because I can't even keep track of their lies anymore. | ||
| You're not paying attention. | ||
| And here's the big takeaway. | ||
| They now come out and completely contradict their official story and basically admit, okay, ISIS may be involved. | ||
| Newsweek has an article now looking at it, and maybe they are. | ||
| Remember, we said that day one from our sources. | ||
| Didn't say maybe. | ||
| Maybe it was the IRA as well. | ||
| He didn't say maybe from his sources on day one. | ||
| But even bigger, Newsweek, LA Times, Usual Suspects, Las Vegas gunman shot security guard a full six minutes before opening fire on concertgoers, police revealed. | ||
| What have we been telling you? | ||
| What have witnesses said? | ||
| Those are not specific things that Alex has ever said. | ||
| And the shooting of the security guard was in the narrative from the beginning, like in the news. | ||
| I read about that the day of. | ||
| Yeah, but what has he been telling you? | ||
| He's been telling me subtly that he doesn't read anything. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| He does still have that phrase. | ||
| He phrases that as a question. | ||
| He still has the upward inflection at the end of it. | ||
| So you could take it as like, Wait, what have we been telling you? | ||
| I don't even remember. | ||
| I am lost. | ||
| I have said a lot of shit. | ||
| I am lost in my own spiderweb. | ||
| Maybe I got it right. | ||
| I think that's what Alex is really thinking. | ||
| He's like, maybe I did. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Guys, new theory. | ||
| I don't exist. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So he's Jim Carrey now. | ||
| He could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| He's a liar liar, I'll tell you that much. | ||
| Bong. | ||
| Almost a spit take. | ||
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I wish I could fire you after that. | |
| I checked out that story in Newsweek, and the title of the story, if Alex is just reading headlines, is If ISIS is behind Las Vegas shooting, there could be a potentially terrifying reason that they refuse to prove it. | ||
| If I did it... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Here's how I would have done it. | ||
| Well, in that case... | ||
| If ISIS had done it. | ||
| Well, that's a bad analogy because he did it. | ||
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That's true. | |
| This article in Newsweek... | ||
| I don't know if OJ could have been anybody. | ||
| In this article, they very specifically say... | ||
| That every law enforcement source, everybody says that there is no discernible connection between ISIS or any other terrorist group and PADC, the shooter in Las Vegas. | ||
| I haven't seen ISIS hire a lot of white dudes. | ||
| A lot of old Arizonan white dudes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Or Nevada white dudes. | ||
| Yeah, they make abundantly clear that that's not... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Lots of good gun control, of course. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| No, it's the desire to create distrust with the media and distrust with authority figures. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the idea is, if they did it... | ||
| Guys, you are way behind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That ship sailed, my friend. | ||
| The premise of the article is, if they did it, they would have some proof that they were involved. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They would wait for the media to say... | ||
| That, you know, there was no involvement, and then they'd be like, haha, your media lies to you, look at this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| When the media isn't saying that there isn't, like he wasn't in ISIS or anything like that, it's just there is no evidence that he is. | ||
| No one is... | ||
| He wasn't in ISIS. | ||
| I'm pretty comfortable with that. | ||
| Look, I don't even need any... | ||
| If ISIS showed up and they were like, here's how you know he was part of ISIS, he left the jack of hearts behind. | ||
| I'd still be like, he wasn't fucking part of ISIS. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was an old white dude from Nevada who fucking shot a bunch of people because he was a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex has a slightly scarier version about what's going on, and we'll get to that here in a little bit. | ||
| Slightly scarier version? | ||
| Slightly, yes. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| No, to me, that's even scarier, right? | ||
| It's like an embolism, because it can happen at any time, anywhere, to anyone. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Oh, the idea that he's not involved with ISIS? | ||
| Yeah, he's just a random-ass fucking dude, and that's why gun control is so important, is because this is just a random dude who got a shit-ton of guns and could actually murder... | ||
| 58 people, 59 people, and injure hundreds more, and nobody really knows why other than he's insane, and he can get guns. | ||
| Like, that's terrifying. | ||
| That's legitimately terrifying. | ||
| I prefer it if it was an organized military organization, because then at least we could, you know, war games it, you know? | ||
| We could be like, here's where they might strike next, here's where this could happen, and instead it's just, hey, someday you might be walking out of a concert and then you're dead. | ||
| Bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thanks, America. | ||
| Yeah, and look, I want to double down on this point really quick. | ||
| If it does come out that he is involved with ISIS, I'll be like, that's a humdinger. | ||
| But if he's not, then I'll continue to be like, there's no proof. | ||
| So that's the position I'm taking, and I think that's what most of the world is taking. | ||
| We'll believe that once there is proof of it, and Alex does not have proof. | ||
| Because to believe otherwise is dumb. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's to believe rogue fantasy sources. | ||
| But, hey, these sources, they're real. | ||
| We have real sources. | ||
| Now, could the sources be lying to us? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But they've been good sources so far. | ||
| These are real sources. | ||
| The media's like, Jones claims he has ballistics experts, too, but doesn't name them. | ||
| Oh, like Craig Sawyer that led major teams and still Team Six and is a top ballistics expert with national TV shows? | ||
| Just real quick. | ||
| Every time that Sawman, Craig Sawman Sawyer is on, he's like, you cannot say what SEAL team I'm a part of. | ||
| And every time he's not there, Alex is like, guy's at SEAL Team 6, he doesn't want me to say it. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| He's the dude who murdered Bin Laden, I don't know. | ||
| And at the same time, he's like... | ||
| All our sources are real, which he says like 20 times on this episode. | ||
| Well, all of his sources are real. | ||
| Just to reinforce they're fucking real. | ||
| If you have to say it, you know it's true. | ||
| But then he outs Sawman as one of his sources. | ||
| And if Sawman is really just the source of the stuff that he says on air, that's one thing. | ||
| But Alex is kind of implying that he's telling him other things behind the scenes. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And that is a problem for everyone. | ||
| As if SEAL Team 6 members are the ones with all the intelligence? | ||
| I prefer SEAL Team 3! | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I'm a snob. | ||
| I prefer Avengers 2, but that's fine. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| Age of Ultron. | ||
| So you might be questioning at this point. | ||
| If Alex has real sources... | ||
| I was not questioning that. | ||
| And he knows... | ||
| I know for a fact he does not. | ||
| Well, but let's pretend he does. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So you pretend he does, and he knows that ISIS is involved in this Las Vegas shooting. | ||
| You might wonder, why is Donald Trump not saying that? | ||
| That's a really good question. | ||
| Why is he resistant to say that it's ISIS? | ||
| Alex has an answer. | ||
| So 10, 11 days ago, on October 1st, we told you... | ||
| Can you play more evil music behind you? | ||
| ...that our sources revealed to us that there were major ISIS connections to the Las Vegas shooter. | ||
| Now, by Monday, it came clear from our White House sources... | ||
| That the national security apparatus has asked the president not to release this information because ISIS was planning this attack with codes built into it to trigger massive sleeper cell attacks across the United States that we'd even been predicting would coincide with the Antifa uprisings that are now beginning. | ||
| They're not beginning. | ||
| And also... | ||
| No, haven't you seen them? | ||
| That seems complicated. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| It's a very straightforward plan. | ||
| There are codes built in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are the codes? | ||
| 6244, SEAL Team 6. So, Trump wouldn't have to say those numbers. | ||
| I mean, do you understand? | ||
| So, if Trump says it was ISIS publicly, that launches the ISIS attack? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what's going on? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, well, we could just say that about everything. | ||
| We could just say that about everything. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| That's because it's always true. | ||
| Trump has been threatened not to resign. | ||
| And if he says, I resign, then ISIS, that's the launch code. | ||
| As we all know, Trump is very careful with what he says. | ||
| Because what if it was a code? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, at this fucking point, Trump might actually just say, like, hey guys, guess what the launch codes to the nukes are? | ||
| They told me. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Isn't it crazy? | ||
| Yeah, look at the shit they gave me here. | ||
| This is fucking nuts. | ||
| The code is Humdinger. | ||
| Is it Hamdinger that's the code on Mystery Science Theater? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The box where Joel finds the escape pod marked Humdingers? | ||
| Hamdinger? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Anyway, I think that Alex's narrative here is stupid. | ||
| And I will leave it there so we can move along. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex talks about how the Las Vegas attack is a cover-up. | ||
| There is a cover-up going on, and then... | ||
| Wait, they're covering up the attack? | ||
| Or the attack itself is a cover-up of another operation? | ||
| No, they're covering up the details of the attack that Alex has been trying to get his info warriors to know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then, at the end, he lets slip where he gets a lot of his information. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the truth is, they're trying to cover this up. | ||
| And the sheriff has come out and done as much as he can, saying clearly there's no way this guy acted alone. | ||
| He said that last Thursday. | ||
| He didn't say that he didn't act alone. | ||
| He's like, it's unimaginable that he acted alone. | ||
| In as much as saying it's crazy to think he acted alone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which isn't saying that they have evidence that he didn't. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| And they've said we're looking at radicalization. | ||
| We can't talk about the evidence yet, but looks like some people may have helped him. | ||
| He did say that they were considering radicalization in response to a question from someone who was in the audience, one of the press people at that press conference. | ||
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Right. | |
| But he didn't say that it looks like some people helped him. | ||
| That's from what they found in the room, okay? | ||
| It's not from what they found in the room. | ||
| So... | ||
| Found a lot of porn. | ||
| He could have been a patsy, because the media acts like, I'm changing stories. | ||
| We don't know exactly what happened. | ||
| We know so much. | ||
| We know the official story's collapsed. | ||
| We know so far it's collapsed. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Let's take a second to enjoy that he just said, we don't know anything. | ||
| We don't know what happened. | ||
| We know so much. | ||
| We know that their story's collapsed, because we know so much about the very little that we do know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Highlights everywhere we were right. | ||
| But then, yeah, he could have been a gunrunner. | ||
| Oh, we told you he went to the Middle East first. | ||
| We told you the girlfriend went there first. | ||
| The live-in. | ||
| We told you that there were hotel receipts first. | ||
| These are all... | ||
| There were hotel receipts? | ||
| He got room service. | ||
| He got room service? | ||
| Ah, that's fucking ISIS all the way! | ||
| These are all so inconsequential. | ||
| It was like a receipt for room service for two days before. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| You could have had someone over. | ||
| Like, I made this point, I think, on an episode I did alone. | ||
| It could have been a prostitute, for all anybody knows. | ||
| It should have been a prostitute. | ||
| If you're gonna go crazy and murder everybody, you might as well fuck first, right? | ||
| You gotta get one last nut off, as we always say. | ||
| Do we always say that? | ||
| I do. | ||
| So, like, all of this stuff is, like, Alex is like, I reported all these things, but they don't amount to anything. | ||
| It's like saying, like, oh, hey, I told you, I told you. | ||
| That there would be an empty bag of chips laying next to the dead body at a murder. | ||
| It's like, yes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That just happened to be there. | ||
| That was trash. | ||
| But here's what is stealth brilliant about this, even though he's doing it in a stupid way. | ||
| Hey, what are we talking about? | ||
| We're talking about all of his dumb narratives. | ||
| We are not talking about the fact that one dude can get... | ||
| A billion guns, take them into a fucking hotel, and just start sniping people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And no one can stop him, and no one cares before he does it. | ||
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Right. | |
| And no one knows what's going on. | ||
| He didn't get stopped from getting all of these guns. | ||
| Explain to me why anybody needs 15 guns. | ||
| If you want your argument to be like self-defense or protecting the home, you're not fucking protecting it from a... | ||
| Cadre of invaders, unless you think it is ISIS. | ||
| Or Home Alone. | ||
| It could be Home Alone. | ||
| It could be a Home Alone situation. | ||
| Home Alone 2, Boston, New York. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which features Trump. | ||
| Where's Trump? | ||
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There it is. | |
| There it is. | ||
| We figured it out. | ||
| We figured it out. | ||
| And Trump is in ISIS. | ||
| Done. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Done. | ||
| And CNN and Alex Jones. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So the thing is, I don't know, I can't answer that question, but I will say that these aren't Alex Jones' narratives. | ||
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And... | |
| 4chan found them, but we published them, checked them, linked to it. | ||
| We told you there was a woman in there days before. | ||
| We told you that she was there earlier, and that he was there three days earlier. | ||
| All of that's been confirmed. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's a hill of nothing, and you got it from fucking 4chan. | ||
| You know what else is on 4chan? | ||
| A lot of illegal pornography. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| A lot of people bullying folks into trying to kill themselves. | ||
| Oh, and Nazis, of course. | ||
| Sure, a lot of Nazis. | ||
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Plenty of Nazis. | |
| Yeah, especially on the poll board that is where he's pulling all his information from. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| He makes it clear on this episode that he gets a lot of his information from 4chan and Reddit slash TheDonald. | ||
| So it's like, okay, you don't have sources. | ||
| Isn't it bananas how important 4chan is now? | ||
| Like we had, like 4chan turned into anonymous. | ||
| And we're all, at a certain point, kind of behind anonymous for a while. | ||
| And then anonymous went batshit. | ||
| And then 4chan was like, hey, what if we were Nazis? | ||
| And then they were like, okay, cool. | ||
| And now they're Nazis. | ||
| What if we just stopped jerking off to hentai and started oppressing other peoples? | ||
| I think some of Anonymous is still okay, right? | ||
| I think there's still... | ||
| Oh, yeah, but they're just not doing as much anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip... | ||
| What they should be doing is murdering Harvey Weinstein, but anyways. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex turns on a friend, and it's grim. | ||
| Now, I've seen certain characters out there floating the idea that nobody got shot. | ||
| I've watched... | ||
| Babar the Elephant. | ||
| Steve Pachette. | ||
| 45 minutes or more of different cell phone and rescuer footage and EMT footage. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| There's plenty of splattered heads and splattered legs, and people are saying, well, some of them aren't splattered. | ||
| I've shot wild hogs, deer, elk, you name it, with high-powered rifles in the head many times, and it just goes in and a little bitty hole comes out. | ||
| Sometimes it blows the whole side of the head off. | ||
| So these arguments that all these people aren't completely splattered is pure malarkey. | ||
| I shot one of those giant African antelopes. | ||
| I forget the names of them. | ||
| I don't want to hear this story. | ||
| In the head. | ||
| And it just went in and went out and the thing kept going. | ||
| And then my son was with me and pulled the trigger and hit it through one eye and out the other. | ||
| No eyes. | ||
| And it kept going. | ||
| That's how tough they are. | ||
| And there was like no holes when we went over there. | ||
| I don't mean to get into graphic hunting stuff, but the whole point is that anybody that shot big pieces of meat... | ||
| Knows that ballistics do different things. | ||
| I think he was a little off track there, but be that as it may, the most important thing is Alex has gone hunting, and he's just completely... | ||
| I mean, that started about Steve Pachanek. | ||
| Yeah, might as well have ended with him being so like, so how about you get a gold star, and you go tell your mom, huh? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| How about that, sources? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, he's not wrestling at all with the fact that, like, if this is a lie he told or he's trying to tell on my show, what other lies has he told on my show? | ||
| I wish he would. | ||
| I wish he'd take that step. | ||
| But he can't. | ||
| I would also like to know what else his son has killed. | ||
| That doesn't make me feel good at all. | ||
| So my son saw a bullet explode through a fucking head. | ||
| I'm sure he's fine. | ||
| And then he went in for another shot. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Shot it in the eyes. | ||
| And he was like, there were no holes, so it's like, how am I going to teach him to fuck too? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fair. | ||
| God. | ||
| So Alex, in this next clip, he finds a way to make the aftermath of the Las Vegas shooting kind of about himself, which we know that's his specialty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They don't even know what to do in MSM. | ||
| And so their hope is to say nobody died. | ||
| So the media can then pick up on that and then get the families to come out and get really upset on television. | ||
| That's the plan. | ||
| And I'm not going along with it, so that's the way it is. | ||
| I will not watch the footage again, and I will not show it. | ||
| If you want to go find it online, it's there. | ||
| That's a classy move, Alex. | ||
| You did just show on your show for over a minute a picture of the shooter, allegedly, who'd been shot in the head. | ||
| A very graphic picture, so you're not really taking the high ground there. | ||
| The other thing is, the only person in the world who's saying that it was fake is Steve Pachanek. | ||
| So far, he's the only one that I've seen. | ||
| And so the idea that someone's trying to set him up... | ||
| It's Steve Pachenik who's trying to set you up. | ||
| Not the media. | ||
| Do you think it's possible? | ||
| Noted psych warfare Steve Pachenik. | ||
| Do you think it's possible that Steve Pachenik this entire time has been trying to fuck with you? | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| But even more if he just was like, I'm bored. | ||
| I'm an old man. | ||
| Alex Jones is dumb. | ||
| Let's see how far I can take this. | ||
| It's for glory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just to see if you can. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm just doing this to see if we can take him down. | ||
| Why do you want to go to the moon? | ||
| Because it's there, Dan. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's not like you actually want to do anything on it. | ||
| No. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| I mean, I want to fuck on the moon once before I die. | ||
| Oh, that lack of gravity. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Think of the positions. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| You could go up. | ||
| You could go down. | ||
| Those are the two I know. | ||
| I just got a great idea. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| The wheelbarrow? | ||
| If we get a hold of Larry, we got to ask him for Pachanik's number. | ||
| I don't know if they know each other. | ||
| I don't think we can turn this into a phone tree thing. | ||
| I don't think InfoWars is like, well, if you're sick, you have to call this guy, and then the guy calls that guy. | ||
| I feel like there's an outside chance. | ||
| We're like, hey, Larry, just let us talk to Steve. | ||
| We'll stop calling you. | ||
| We'll leave you alone. | ||
| Just give us Pachenik's number. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So in this next clip, it becomes clear that Alex does not know what direction is up. | ||
| In terms of the Las Vegas shooting. | ||
| His narrative is all over the place. | ||
| He has no control of what's going on. | ||
| He's just spiraling. | ||
| To the point where later he has a guy named John Wesley Rawls on, who has a blog called survivalblog.com. | ||
| I bet he's a hero. | ||
| They can't get him on Skype because he lives in the woods. | ||
| Yeah, well, who taught him how to hide his guns? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| Did he buy that book? | ||
| Yeah, undoubtedly. | ||
| He might have wrote it. | ||
| But his whole thing when he's on it is like... | ||
| He just lives in the woods. | ||
| He's like, this shooting is suspicious to me because the guy's a pilot. | ||
| He should have just flown into the crowd. | ||
| Like, oh, okay, great. | ||
| I mean, great. | ||
| That is... | ||
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Good point. | |
| Let me explain a few bumps in the road along that way. | ||
| Generally, you have to file a flight plan. | ||
| And if you deviate from it, especially post 9-11. | ||
| People are watching! | ||
| Especially when you're in crowded urban centers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also... | ||
| It's very suspicious. | ||
| He probably wouldn't have hurt as many people. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it depends on the plane. | ||
| That's how shitty the world we live in is. | ||
| I don't know, man, because there were those gas tanks, apparently, nearby. | ||
| If you would have flown into those or something like that. | ||
| I don't know, but the point is... | ||
| Are you giving advice to terrorists now, Dan? | ||
| Is that what you're doing? | ||
| No, but... | ||
| Listen, let me just say... | ||
| No, John Wesley Rawls is! | ||
| You did a great job. | ||
| Not as efficient as it could have been. | ||
| But that's literally what this dude's doing. | ||
| This survivalist dude. | ||
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That's what he's doing. | |
| Yeah, but he lives in the woods. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| Yeah, who cares? | ||
| No one's going to fly into his house. | ||
| Yeah, we're talking to the Unabomber. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I think a phone tree is breaking out in the chat room. | ||
| Everyone's calling Larry. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| No! | ||
| Guys, come on! | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Keep doing it. | ||
| But seriously, publicly, you shouldn't be... | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| All right, so here's Alex spiraling out of control with the narrative. | ||
| They've been told to lie, and now they're saying, okay, it looks like it may be ISIS in Newsweek, and that's because they know they're not going to be able to cover it up, because law enforcement isn't going along with it. | ||
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And when it comes out, it's one of my main criticism of Trump now, that and saying he's against WikiLeaks, and WikiLeaks probably got him elected more than anybody. | |
| More than InfoWars from our audience, really. | ||
| It's 50-50. | ||
| But, you know, Drudge, it's all in there. | ||
| A constellation that brought Trump the win of the populist resistance. | ||
| So, before we get into this part, I just don't like the idea that he's saying that there's a worldwide populist uprising that they're a part of. | ||
| Well, yeah, there's a group of, you know, just... | ||
| People across the globe who are trying to influence things in the United States. | ||
| Just cool guys. | ||
| All of these people are just connected. | ||
| They all have their own secret agendas and lives that they are trying to live. | ||
| It's a nationalist populist uprising. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| It's not globalism? | ||
| No, just an international nationalist populist uprising. | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't want them if they tell you, Mr. President, there's a code, and they're going to launch ISIS attacks everywhere you air this. | ||
| I don't buy that. | ||
| That's the left and the globalists inside the FBI. | ||
| He was saying that earlier as if it was what he believed, and now he's saying, I don't believe that. | ||
| He has no idea what's going on. | ||
| Why is he still talking about this? | ||
| He has no control over his own, like, the way he phrases things. | ||
| Because it makes it seem like, like, I'm willing to believe that at the beginning of the show... | ||
| He didn't mean to say that, like, there is a code, like an ISIS code. | ||
| But he presented it as if, like, this is what sources are telling us. | ||
| This is what we're putting out as news. | ||
| Now he's saying, I don't believe that. | ||
| That's the FBI. | ||
| That's the globalist FBI. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's convoluted. | ||
| Trying to keep the truth from coming out so they can score political points just like they did for weeks and weeks in Puerto Rico. | ||
| Blocking. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| The aid. | ||
| Getting there and the Teamsters sitting on it so they can have the biggest disaster possible to blame America. | ||
| No, they blame Trump because it's Trump's fault. | ||
| No, but Alex's narrative is completely made up. | ||
| The idea that Teamsters went on strike in order to stop getting the goods out. | ||
| That is so... | ||
| To make Trump look bad. | ||
| So un... | ||
| It's believably offensive. | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| Especially because the interviews that he takes quotes from include the people in the unions, Teamsters and the local Puerto Rico drivers union, saying, we are not going on strike. | ||
| So the idea that he is taking these quotes and making this argument means he has to know that he's saying the absolute opposite of the truth. | ||
| It's... | ||
| I can't... | ||
| I can't... | ||
| So many people... | ||
| In Puerto Rico and outside of Puerto Rico are doing everything they fucking can because so many people still don't have water, still don't have power, are starving. | ||
| Families are starving. | ||
| And people who are there who are all really, really trying to help and there's only one small group of people who are fucking tearing this all apart and that's Trump and his fucking monsters. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| So how... | ||
| I hate saying how dare you, but how fucking dare you? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You fucking monster. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Let's finish this clip. | ||
| It's the same crud. | ||
| I'm not going along with it. | ||
| It's October, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| November 5th, they claim they're launching their communist uprising. | ||
| This is the final countdown. | ||
| How many days are we out now? | ||
| How many days? | ||
| How many days? | ||
| 25 days until they launch. | ||
| Bullshit revolution number two. | ||
| But this time it's America. | ||
| And we're ready. | ||
| He's really going to start doing the drums, isn't he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Smash cut to November 5th. | ||
| No communist uprising. | ||
| Remember, remember, the 7th of November, which is when we've actually planned it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm part of it. | ||
| I don't deal, I don't truck with rhymes, my friend. | ||
| If I'm going to start an uprising, it's going to be arrhythmic. | ||
| Well, Alex believes that everything is based on movies. | ||
| And I know that Guy Fawkes was a real human and everything like that. | ||
| But he thinks that V for Vendetta is the... | ||
| Is the true story as opposed to the... | ||
| Well, Antifa is just planning through V for Vendetta. | ||
| That came out years ago. | ||
| Predictive programming. | ||
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Right. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's them putting the plan out there for 2017. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| That's a strange year to choose. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| Knowing nothing about these supposed Bolsheviks here in America that are planning a revolution, if it's Bolsheviks that I know nothing about versus Alex Jones, I'm going to go ahead and be cool with their revolution. | ||
| I'm just going to be fine with it. | ||
| I'm just going to be like, all right, you guys do you. | ||
| I mean, if they're that... | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| What's going on? | ||
| Chat room. | ||
| Chat room, I need you to be very serious right now. | ||
| Are you guys fucking around about Larry asking for a call back? | ||
| They are saying that he called them back and said for you to call him back. | ||
| But I think they're fucking with us. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I'm getting a 100% true message from them, which leads me to believe that what actually happened is they called and he said, never call me again. | ||
| And now you're calling into a trap. | ||
| Again, remember to tell him that you're recording. | ||
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I will. | |
| Hello. | ||
| Hi, Larry. | ||
| How are you today? | ||
| Pretty damn right now. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Pretty sick right now. | ||
| I'm sorry to hear that. | ||
| Just so you know, we are live streaming on Twitch right now. | ||
| Let them rip. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
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All righty. | |
| First off, of course, did you – do you actually have information that you are willing to use to take down the GOP? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But not yet. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Would you mind sharing just a little bit with us? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I can't. | ||
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Look, if I did, think of it this way. | |
| If I did, then we don't have it to use to force it. | ||
| That's called blackmail. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Well, my co-host pointed out that that could be described as blackmail in a court of law. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| You're welcome to try. | ||
| I think you're the one who has the information. | ||
| I don't have standing in court. | ||
| So are you actually threatening blackmail? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| I'm just going to tell the truth now. | ||
| But you won't tell the truth if they do what you want them to do. | ||
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Just said I'll tell the truth about it, guys. | |
| I'm kind of feeling sick right now going up. | ||
| We're going to have to do this another time. | ||
| No, that's no problem. | ||
| If you'd like, would you like to... | ||
| I mean, I'll be glad to come home with you and all of that. | ||
| Right now is not a good time. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| Would you like to text me or have me give you a call later? | ||
| Just give me a call tomorrow. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sounds like a plan. | ||
| Hope you feel better. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Have a good night. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, what we can take from that... | ||
| What the fuck was... | ||
| What are we doing with our lives? | ||
| What we can take away from that is, first of all, he did give us... | ||
| He was aware that we were recording. | ||
| We were in the clear. | ||
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But... | |
| I think he just threatened blackmail and then was like, nah, I mean, it's not blackmail. | ||
| I'm just saying that I have information that I will use if they don't do what I want them to do. | ||
| That's not blackmail. | ||
| That's just me saying that I will tell the truth, but I won't tell the truth if they do what I want them to do. | ||
| So I think that's more proof that he's threatening to blackmail Congress, although his answer would be we are not threatening to blackmail Congress. | ||
| I would love to take him to court for that, but I'm not Congress. | ||
| I don't have standing to take him to court. | ||
| So what we need to do is get you elected as the representative of Chicago. | ||
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We need to call our representatives, not about a vote, but about... | |
| And now I feel terrible. | ||
| Like, he really... | ||
| I mean, he's sick. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| He's a fucking monster. | ||
| I hope he dies tonight. | ||
| I mean, I want to get an interview with him tomorrow. | ||
| And we should really... | ||
| We should actually... | ||
| So, here is the only problem with that. | ||
| For some reason... | ||
| Even though I knew we were going to call him tonight, I at no point planned any questions. | ||
| Well, that's the big question. | ||
| That's the big question, but what I should have done is, like, buttered him up with some softballs first, and then maybe he would have been trusting, and he would have just jumped in with us. | ||
| No, no, because you knew he was going to get off the phone sooner than later. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| He sounds terrible, and I don't mean that judgmentally, but he just sounds like shit. | ||
| I mean, even when he's not sick, he sounds terrible. | ||
| I mean, it's 8.30. | ||
| I think he's in Central Time, right? | ||
| Arkansas? | ||
| I think that's central time. | ||
| The phone says Ohio. | ||
| Oh, well, even that would be central time, probably. | ||
| So, I mean, you know, 8.30 for a 70-something-year-old dude, that's late. | ||
| Especially if you have cancer. | ||
| Yeah, if you're sick. | ||
| Wow, that's exciting. | ||
| I feel real good about that. | ||
| We got him basically to admit that he is blackmailing Congress, but not blackmailing Congress. | ||
| I need a post-coil cigarette after that. | ||
| Let's get into this next clip, and I'm going to chug this beer along with the... | ||
| I'm a little bit late. | ||
| I think the chat room already chugged theirs. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex is really convoluted about the Harvey Weinstein situation, and our position is Harvey Weinstein can go fuck himself. | ||
| He's terrible. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Alex's take is really super convoluted and touches on victim blaming in a way that I'm not surprised by, but I'm still uncomfortable with. | ||
| But as I and Cernovich said here last week, why is all this breaking so big now? | ||
| We said our gut is the very media outlets that covered it up, like the New York Times are now breaking it, to minimize it and make it about simply hitting on women and cheating on his wife. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We are angry about rape. | ||
| And the Clintons are still silent. | ||
| Who fucking cares? | ||
| It's women saying he raped them. | ||
| That's pretty clear. | ||
| That's what it's all about when you make women come in and see you showering and make it all about you. | ||
| It's serious pervert behavior. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's trying to creep women out and then forcing yourself on them. | ||
| It's cucking the women. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| From aggressive overtures to sexual assault, Harry Weinstein's accusers tell their stories. | ||
| And here's the deal. | ||
| Whether it's true or not, and I tend to believe it, with the Hollywood slime types, that's good. | ||
| It's all part of the same slime bucket, and it's what everybody wallowed into, so it's a bunch of vampires eating each other. | ||
| I mean, there's some truth to... | ||
| Hey, you know what you're getting into when you go to Hollywood? | ||
| What? | ||
| It's like walking down the alley in the worst part of town at midnight and getting freaked out when you get mugged. | ||
| But still, the muggers are more to blame. | ||
| They actually carried out the criminal act. | ||
| Now, some of the young 16-year-old girls that watch TV all day think they're going to be movie stars. | ||
| Please don't continue the sentence. | ||
| You're going to be movie stars. | ||
| Know what you're going to be is a crack whore. | ||
| When they're done using you up, they're going to put you in a snuff film for European consumption. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| They're going to torture you to death. | ||
| That's intense. | ||
| The truth is, the child porn stuff's just mid-level. | ||
| The torture porn. | ||
| The murder porn. | ||
| Well, that's king. | ||
| You probably read that on 4chan. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| Or on Reddit slash TheDonald. | ||
| Also, here's another big reason that I don't care what the Clintons think. | ||
| Bill is a rapist. | ||
| Hey, if our show were bigger, you'd get $2,500 for saying that. | ||
| Alex Jones would pay you. | ||
| Well, do you know what? | ||
| This is something that I've really, really thought about after this Harvey Weinstein thing, is that everybody's like, oh, why are you talking about how Trump is a racist? | ||
| We're only condemning rapists whenever they're on the wrong side. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| There is some truth to that. | ||
| Clinton was a fucking, is a fucking rapist. | ||
| I think a lot of people have, even on the left, a lot of people are on board with that. | ||
| But you're right, there is more that needs to be addressed about that. | ||
| And so is Louis C.K. Right. | ||
| Like, all of these people, like, this is, and this is the thing, like, and, like, now I remember how small a deal, like, relatively speaking, people made of that when Clinton was president. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A lot of that information wasn't out, and a lot of things ended up being from... | ||
| Well, it was out. | ||
| Well, some of the stuff ended up not being true, stuff that Larry Nichols brought to the forefront. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Lies that Larry Nichols brought up muddied the issue of what Clinton actually did. | ||
| He did a lot of terrible things, but by embellishing it, it made a lot of people tune out. | ||
| So there is a part that our old friend on the phone, Larry Nichols, is responsible for some of that, too. | ||
| One of the things that I think is super interesting is on yesterday's show, Mike Cernovich was on. | ||
| And he was trying to make the point that he's like, oh, this is like, I want to say that it's really cool that there are Democrats who are... | ||
| Just, like, denouncing Harvey Weinstein and sending back money that he donated and donating it and stuff like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he's like, you know, I always expect hypocrisy and I just want to make a point of saying it's, you know, I expected them to defend him and it's really cool to see that they're, you know, they denounce, you know, they get really mad about Republicans but they're getting really mad about this. | ||
| And Alec is like, wow! | ||
| And he just moves on to another topic. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. | |
| But it's interesting to see, like, Mike Cernovich try and introduce that talking point into Infowars and it just be, like, There's a super weird thing where he's not... | ||
| He's saying all this stuff that Harvey Weinstein did that was bad, but then he's framing it as hitting on ladies and cheating on your wife, as opposed to the reality of what it is. | ||
| He's a rapist. | ||
| Yeah, and he's defending him accidentally, or intentionally. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| Well, he has to defend rapists, because I'm not saying that he's a rapist, but I'm saying if anybody is a rapist... | ||
| That I don't know is a rapist. | ||
| Alex Jones is a rapist. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I guarantee that... | ||
| Look, here's the thing that I've really... | ||
| We can't say that. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| Here's the thing that I've really thought about a lot with this Harvey Weinstein thing is it is something that because I don't have to personally deal with it, I have absolutely not given enough attention to in my life. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| It's mind-boggling to me that I haven't. | ||
| For all of my bullshit, liberal, progressive righteousness, but then at the other side, all I can do is scream about how this shit is awful. | ||
| We know comedians in Chicago who have absolutely committed very similar things. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| I want to speak out about this, right? | ||
| But the people that we've talked to, the victims of this bullshit, have universally said, don't say anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't know what to do about that. | ||
| Do we just name these fuckers? | ||
| No, certainly not on the show. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| I mean, calling Larry Nichols is dicey enough territory. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what the right answer is. | ||
| It's incredibly complicated, and I don't know. | ||
| But it's something to wrestle with, and it's something to listen to people and try and figure out what the right answer is. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Well, you read all of this shit, and a lot of it comes down to, like, hey, this shouldn't just be women who have to speak out about this. | ||
| This should be men speaking out about it too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I absolutely want to. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| But I don't know how to name names without the victim's approval. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Other than to say, this guy is a fucking sexual harasser. | ||
| He's a serial sexual assaulter. | ||
| And I have no proof because nobody wants to come and admit to anything. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| Because I want to do something. | ||
| Something needs to be done. | ||
| Well, with respecting the wishes of the person in question, you really can't. | ||
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Right. | |
| I just... | ||
| And that's not... | ||
| I'm worried on a certain level there is a piece that you're complaining about your position in this when you're a tertiary character. | ||
| No, I also know that! | ||
| I don't know what to do, Dan! | ||
| I want to be... | ||
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I'll tell you what to do. | |
| Calm down. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not good at calming down. | ||
| Listen to people and be empathic. | ||
| That's the best thing that we can do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And listen to this next clip where Alex pretends that the Weinstein situation is really actually about Trump. | ||
| If you think hitting on women at restaurants or having a different girlfriend every day is what this is all about, think again. | ||
| Of course, they're going after him two-fold. | ||
| To cover up the really big stuff. | ||
| And to make it about a men's war on women and sell the West as a rape culture when Islam doesn't and create a bigger war between the sexes before they level their guns on Trump. | ||
| So, real quick, real quick, before we get into that, here is what he's talking about. | ||
| They're going to destroy Weinstein and then they're going to roll women out that say Trump raped them. | ||
| And they'll be such a furor and such a fury. | ||
| That this will be the scandal they believe will bring down Trump. | ||
| It all crystallized this morning when I was reading all the news and looking at it. | ||
| And watch! | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| Alex is a genius. | ||
| It happened a year ago. | ||
| I believe the count is like 20 at this point. | ||
| People have come out and said they've been assaulted by Trump. | ||
| It happened a long time ago. | ||
| And the people who cared about it maybe didn't care about it for the right reasons. | ||
| And the people who supposedly care about it now that Weinstein is caught doing it voted for Trump. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| So it's, like, that should be... | ||
| I mean, the other problem is, what, 85% of our presidents have committed sexual assault in some form or another? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I mean, it's a problem of white... | ||
| Like, America's filled with white, old, rapist, racist presidents. | ||
| It's an intrinsic problem of how our culture has treated male power, and it is unfortunate. | ||
| It's accepted, and it's protected. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, and that's why it's everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But let's move along and get to this next clip where Alex Jones talks about how... | ||
| 40% of men need to die today. | ||
| That's just a true fact. | ||
| Seems like a reasonable number. | ||
| Here is Alex talking about something else that is the... | ||
| If you take 100% and you minus that 40%, you get 60. And that number is relevant to this clip. | ||
| Bad transition. | ||
| Bad transition. | ||
| Terrible transition. | ||
| Trump's approval rating isn't just up six points in the last two weeks. | ||
| They have a 15% manipulation in how they do the polls. | ||
| Nine to 15, sometimes higher. | ||
| And so Trump is nine to 15 points higher than what they're saying. | ||
| Trump's closer to 60% or higher, as I keep explaining to everybody. | ||
| Poorly. | ||
| Just like I said during the campaign. | ||
| And it came out indeed. | ||
| Google knew. | ||
| Facebook knew. | ||
| They've got algorithms. | ||
| Let me explain something. | ||
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Please do. | |
| Hold on to the let's explain something, because it actually goes to a really fucking funny place. | ||
| But I'm going to go to the research cam here because I have pulled up Trump's approval ratings currently, an aggregate of all of the polls. | ||
| He is currently at a 56.7 disapproval rating and a 37.5 approval rating. | ||
| If you were to even add Alex's very generous 15 points to the 37.5, you'd have 52.5, still a bit south of his 60 prediction. | ||
| But there's just absolutely no way that works. | ||
| He's misinterpreting how statistics work in terms of... | ||
| I mean, not understanding how statistics work. | ||
| Right, the idea of poll offsetting and stuff like that. | ||
| But here's the larger issue with those polls. | ||
| There's an even larger issue. | ||
| Well, let me make my point, and then I will shut the fuck up and allow you to move on. | ||
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All right. | |
| I'm sorry for interrupting you again. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I don't care about the approval ratings polls, because... | ||
| People are stupid? | ||
| Those people would vote for him again. | ||
| If we did the election tomorrow... | ||
| It doesn't matter what his approval ratings are. | ||
| They would still vote against Hillary Clinton. | ||
| That weird 37.5%? | ||
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No. | |
| Every single... | ||
| Maybe not everyone, but most of those GOP-identified voters would do it over again. | ||
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They would. | |
| I don't give a fuck what they think about their shitty president that they elected if they would vote for the GOP again. | ||
| Because Trump is not... | ||
| It's not... | ||
| An outlier in the GOP. | ||
| Trump is doing everything that the GOP has always wanted to do. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| But he's brash. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So he can get away with it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If Mike Pence... | ||
| He lets you get away with it when you're a star. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It turns out. | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| So let's go back to the research game here. | ||
| There's an article in Business Insider that came out this afternoon that tracked the change in Trump's net approval rating. | ||
| And if you look at this, it's down in literally every state. | ||
| Every state. | ||
| Since the election, Trump has gone down at least 11 net points in terms of his approval rating. | ||
| That would be the approval minus disapproval. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so, like, even Texas, Alex Jones' strong bed of whatever he's at. | ||
| 14 points down in terms of the net approval ratings. | ||
| Illinois, thrilled with this. | ||
| Chicago, baby, down 30.6 in terms of net approval. | ||
| It should be fucking higher. | ||
| It should be at 0%. | ||
| What's the most conservative state you can think of? | ||
| Like Wyoming? | ||
| 14.1 points down. | ||
| I think, isn't it like North Dakota? | ||
| Isn't it North Dakota? | ||
| North Dakota down 15.7 points down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it's just the idea that he's up at all in the polls or that there's any good news in terms of that is just he's completely misinterpreting things and lying to his audience. | ||
| But again, I don't care that you don't care. | ||
| No, I know, I know. | ||
| I think maybe the better question, rather than his approval or disapproval ratings, are would you, knowing what you know now, would you have voted for Hillary? | ||
| Because the answer would be no. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that would be an interesting thing to track. | ||
| That's a better question, because who gives a fuck about his approval-disapproval ratings? | ||
| He's the president. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And until our bullshit, shitty oligarchs have the balls to pressure their bought congressmen to actually do something about it, he's going to be the president. | ||
| So approve or disapprove, it's too late. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So here is the end of that clip again. | ||
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Go for it. | |
| Dude, they've got algorithms. | ||
| Let me explain something. | ||
| So... | ||
| I got it. | ||
| He's going to explain something. | ||
| Thanks for redoing that. | ||
| What he explains is that whenever you're trying to buy a trip somewhere, when you're trying to buy a vacation, you've got to reset your cookies. | ||
| Because if you don't reset your cookies, they're going to charge you a higher price. | ||
| Makes perfect sense. | ||
| He's up on that shit. | ||
| And so that leads into this. | ||
| This is maybe a minute and a half later. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| That's good advice. | ||
| It's reasonable advice. | ||
| This is a minute and a half later. | ||
| I'll tell my wife if she's shopping on a big shopping cart, I go, honey, did you back out of your cookies? | ||
| Did you delete them? | ||
| Did you go in a fresh browser? | ||
| She'll go, no, no, and I'll go watch this. | ||
| And every time the products are lower prices. | ||
| Like magic. | ||
| And I was just talking about that this morning with some of the crew, the only reason I bring it up. | ||
| It's just it shows you how digitally gamed things are and how people need to be aware of that. | ||
| Which is what we're discovering about Facebook and Russia. | ||
| Let me do a plug right now since I brought it up. | ||
| Drink. | ||
| When you go to Infowarsstore.com, the price is the price we announce on air. | ||
| It's the same price you see on the site. | ||
| We don't do stuff like that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Smooth. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Silky smooth. | ||
| So good! | ||
| I would also like to say... | ||
| One, take travel advice from Alex Jones. | ||
| Two, do not buy any of Alex Jones' products. | ||
| I'd also like to say that that ad goes on six minutes. | ||
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Jesus! | |
| It's so long. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| It's painfully long. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, he can't keep talking about Las Vegas for that much longer. | ||
| No, he's got to talk about air filters and shit. | ||
| So he does a six minute ad, goes to commercial, and then comes back and gets into something else that's stuck in his craw. | ||
| Escape from the New World Order and we're doing a pretty good job, folks. | ||
| Also, if anybody knows what that music that's playing behind him is, I need to know. | ||
| The spell they had over us begins to break. | ||
| Well, here it is from CNBC. | ||
| NFL owners to consider rule change that would require players to stand for the national anthem. | ||
| There's already a rule. | ||
| But they want to act like they're doing something. | ||
| Total deception in that headline. | ||
| But you know what that is? | ||
| A big old fat, juicy, white flag. | ||
| That's code. | ||
| That's code. | ||
| Isn't that the opposite, though? | ||
| It's the NFL giving in to Trump, waving the white flag. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, yeah, then it's absolutely right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's absolutely what they're doing. | ||
| I also still think it's a little bit of a whistle, a little doggy whistle. | ||
| What, the white flag? | ||
| Yeah, because he hits white really hard. | ||
| Did he hit white? | ||
| Juicy! | ||
| He didn't hit white. | ||
| No, he didn't do white. | ||
| He did white. | ||
| He just said white. | ||
| He didn't say white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It just struck my ears. | ||
| And then he's like, they're down, he says that they're down like 50% in viewership, but he says, that's 50 juicies. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Why is it he can make describing numbers gross? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't like him calling anything juicies. | ||
| So anyway, we have one more clip, and then I'm going to dive into my investigation. | ||
| I hope we have more than those four beers left. | ||
| I was going to say, we're already about an hour in and you are just now getting to the meat of the episode. | ||
| It's not so much the meat, it's a special report. | ||
| Actually, let me rephrase that. | ||
| And I have kept you from diving into the meat of the episode for this long? | ||
| You started screaming a whole bunch. | ||
| I did. | ||
| To be fair, we're making good time. | ||
| We're like on a road trip, and we're like, all right, we'll get there. | ||
| We'll get there. | ||
| We're not going to miss the show. | ||
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All right. | |
| At a certain point, I'm going to be the one who's screaming at you. | ||
| We'll get there when we get there! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's the last little clip of Alex just saying weird stuff that I think is coded language. | ||
| The ghost of the old republic is rising in. | ||
| The renaissance, the electricity of human freedom, burning in the hearts and minds of men and women everywhere. | ||
| Here's Bannon. | ||
| I would love that to be my intro coming up on stage. | ||
| The ghost of the old republic is rising. | ||
| The renaissance. | ||
| Here's Dan. | ||
| Here to do a tight 10. Give it up for Dan Friesen. | ||
| Yeah, he introduces Bannon talking about how they're going to primary all these republicans who don't go along with the Trump agenda and All right. | ||
| You guys. | ||
| You guys fucking, okay, have a war within your ranks. | ||
| The only thing that's actually negative about that is what's going to come out of that war, obviously, is, like, Alex Jones' team's going to win. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The other people are disasters. | ||
| Well, what they don't realize is that they created the dumb people that are going to destroy them. | ||
| Much like how America creates its own enemies, so did the GOP. | ||
| Imagine that they were capable of controlling this monster, and then it comes back to defeat them. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But my issue that I'm talking about is the idea that for us, it's a negative that they're going to destroy the GOP establishment because what comes out of it is so much worse. | ||
| Like these Alex Jones School of Liberty Movement people, that's worse. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because at least, I mean, look, establishment politicians aren't great, but they're not as close to sovereign citizens. | ||
| That's my position. | ||
| You want to be as far away from sovereign citizens in general as possible. | ||
| Yeah, I do think that there is a legitimate parallel now between the progressive wing of the left and the loonies on the right. | ||
| And there's only one connection that they have. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| The Republican lunatics who are trying to destroy the GOP establishment... | ||
| They want to kill more. | ||
| They're doing it. | ||
| They understand the reality that shit actually has to change, and it has to change really fast. | ||
| We can't allow it to do this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So the... | |
| That is something that I do have in common with them, in that I do also realize that neoliberalism and neoconservatism, which are essentially the same thing, with slightly different cultural values, are both leading to the end of the world. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Let's move along. | ||
| I don't disagree with you. | ||
| The only point I was trying to make is that the idea of wrestling against... | ||
| A more robust, bigger liberty movement is a scarier prospect than trying to win against dumbass. | ||
| I think I disagree. | ||
| I think I disagree entirely. | ||
| Well, there's about a couple million people with five million guns that are going to take that up with you. | ||
| Yes, but when you reveal how white supremacist the GOP actually is, The people who are theoretically in the center are going to lean back towards, oh, Nazis are bad. | ||
| Like, all this is doing, again, is revealing how utterly fucked up and racist the GOP has been always. | ||
| It is not a new movement. | ||
| This is what people believe. | ||
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Look, lynchings didn't stop. | |
| They didn't. | ||
| How many cops are murdering black people still? | ||
| They just changed form. | ||
| It's the same shit. | ||
| And 20 years ago, even though we theoretically had a more reasonable GOP, it was still going on. | ||
| We just didn't talk about it. | ||
| And so now they're just revealing that they're monsters. | ||
| I'm not disagreeing with you at all. | ||
| I'm just trying to figure out how to pivot into this investigation. | ||
| I like how... | ||
| I'm having a tough time with it. | ||
| I like how... | ||
| I don't know if you've ever listened to anything I've ever said. | ||
| You're just always thinking of like, what's the best transition? | ||
| Yeah, what's the word I'm going to use? | ||
| I think maybe the only time you've listened to me was after that 40 to 60 transition. | ||
| You were like, oh, I don't have enough time to think of something good. | ||
| Speaking of something that's good. | ||
| I love you, Dan. | ||
| I love you, too. | ||
| So, today, on the October 10th show, we have an appearance from one of the lamest obscure members of the InfoWars team. | ||
| Would you like to make a guess of who it is? | ||
| Lamest obscure? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, it's definitely not Rainbow Snatch. | ||
| No, Rainbow Snatch. | ||
| Because she's a star, baby. | ||
| Rainbow Snatch has been taken out to pasture. | ||
| She's not around anymore. | ||
| And whatever happened to your girl? | ||
| Millie? | ||
| That's the same person. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Leanne McAdoo? | ||
| Leanne McAdoo would never be described as lame. | ||
| Or obscure. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| She's gone into obscurity, though. | ||
| I haven't heard from her. | ||
| Yeah, she's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She was in Florida for a bit with her grandma. | ||
| I think the hurricane hit. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hope she's alright. | ||
| We're getting a guest from the chat room, Mark Dice Clay. | ||
| That is incorrect. | ||
| Jakari Jackson, that is not correct. | ||
| Oh, Jakari's never coming back, man. | ||
| No, he's not coming back. | ||
| Jakari is never coming back. | ||
| He's doing much better. | ||
| It is John Bowne. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I remember that name. | ||
| John Bowne makes probably the worst, most poorly thought out special report that I've ever seen on InfoWars, and I'm going to critically deconstruct it. | ||
| Piece by fucking piece until there is no meat left on these bones. | ||
| Do you want me to put Cthulhu here while you do that? | ||
| And then I'll just come back whenever you... | ||
| No, I could use your feedback. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So here's how the report starts out. | ||
| And it has to do with this supposed Bolshevik revolution that's coming up. | ||
| And Antifa. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
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As we face the coming tide of the violence that Antifa, the democratic socialist, and other treasonous groups are fomenting, it's important to see their Selinsky-ite tactics for what they are. | |
| In Saul Alinsky's handbook for the coming uprising of the left, titled Rules for Radicals, we can clearly see how Selinsky's rules are being applied. | ||
| So, have you got the premise? | ||
| The Bolshevik Revolution and these traitors, such as the Democratic Socialists and Antifa, they're going to be making their move in November, as Alex has pitched to everybody. | ||
| The 5th of November. | ||
| Remember. | ||
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It was the 5th night of November. | |
| And you get mad at me for derailing things. | ||
| I derail them more fun. | ||
| You scream. | ||
| I sing fun songs. | ||
| Hold on, real quick. | ||
| Is it Saul Alinsky? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then he shortened it to Salinsky. | ||
| I am not a fan of that. | ||
| Saul Alinsky is one of these guys who's like George Soros in terms of they're these universal boogeymen of the liberty movement. | ||
| And he did write a book called Rules for Radicals. | ||
| And this John Bowne fella... | ||
| He thinks that he's cracked the code about what's going to be happening and the tactics. | ||
| Is it ISIS-6969? | ||
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It's not. | |
| He goes through the rules for radicals in Saul Alinsky's book. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| In the report, he provides examples of a bunch of them that the liberals are doing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I would like to propose... | ||
| Versions that InfoWars is actually doing in a more real way. | ||
| So here's the first rule. | ||
| Rule number one. | ||
| Power is not what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. | ||
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Well, let's be clear that Antifa are not calling on the government to censor anyone. | |
| In fact, they resist the notion of turning to the government or turning to the police, who we've seen have been infiltrated by white supremacists who have been sympathetic to the court, sort of returned the law and order notion of fascism. | ||
| And so the idea is the real enemies of free speech are fascists. | ||
| We've seen that historically. | ||
| So that is a guy who's a teacher at Dartmouth. | ||
| I can't remember his name, but he goes and gives media appearances about Antifa a lot. | ||
| I am not entirely sure how that clip demonstrates power is in perception, basically. | ||
| In fact, I don't believe he's... | ||
| In no point during that clip did he claim to have more power than he did. | ||
| No, or presented at all. | ||
| Right, which is kind of what Alex does all the time. | ||
| Here's a clip from last week. | ||
| I have gotten this. | ||
| And no cameras, please, guys. | ||
| No cameras. | ||
| This is from a law enforcement source. | ||
| And the information is, the news is lying. | ||
| FBI HRT did the hit on the guy. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And they found antifa information in the room. | ||
| And photos of the woman in the Middle East. | ||
| So he did not kill himself. | ||
| The FBI hostage rescue team killed him because he was firing on them. | ||
| So he did not want to be taken alive. | ||
| And reportedly he did it. | ||
| And it was anti for crap everywhere. | ||
| And other things I'm not supposed to mention. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| That is directly from the hostage rescue team, by the way, Paul. | ||
| And I'm going to delete this information now. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
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Obviously, that's huge. | |
| That's huge if it turns out to be true. | ||
| Hey, Paul. | ||
| This is from high-level CIA. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| That's what's due directly from. | ||
| And this is from the hostage rescue team. | ||
| You know I don't make sources up. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| No, all I'm saying is that I'm going on the information I have and I don't know. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Even Paul is like, yes, you do. | ||
| Yeah, and like I mentioned when we played that clip last week, Paul... | ||
| Basically rolls his eyes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He gives like a kind of look. | ||
| So perception is what Alex Jones is playing with. | ||
| You don't have that information, Alex. | ||
| You just want your enemies to think that you have that information. | ||
| So you are using rule one of rules for radicals. | ||
| Like, hey, Larry Nichols, can you really blackmail the GOP? | ||
| No. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Here's rule two. | ||
| Number two, never go outside the expertise of your people. | ||
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What about when an Antifa member stabbed a police horse in the neck with a knife? | |
| Was the horse a racist Trump supporter? | ||
| Yes, so the horse... | ||
| I didn't know horses could vote. | ||
| You see, the horse is a tool of the police, and the police, under the Drumpf administration, have been increasingly intolerant. | ||
| So I don't understand how that works either, for his example. | ||
| Yeah, also I don't think that's a very cogent argument from our Rantifa fella. | ||
| So if the idea in Rule 2... | ||
| I know, they were just... | ||
| I mean, the guy who's going on Fox is going to be a buffoon. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| But the idea of the Rule 2 is stay within your expertise. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't understand how that demonstrates staying in Antifa's expertise. | ||
| Well, he doesn't know anything about horses. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I would posit that the way that Alex just constantly talks about the globalists and things that no one else really... | ||
| Knows is real or believes in. | ||
| Pretty sure doesn't he insist that he is more knowledgeable than many experts in their field? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| How about climate change? | ||
| Oh, vaccines! | ||
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Sure. | |
| He knows more about vaccines than people who make vaccines, right? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| Can't he speak, like, three languages? | ||
| Well, no, but he also, like, he just has his own, he has his own world that he lives in, and he stays inside that, all of the narratives. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whenever there are guests are on who are... | ||
| who don't get along with him, he doesn't drift too far outside of whatever his thing is. | ||
| We've seen it when interviews haven't gone well. | ||
| He doesn't engage with things that are necessarily outside of it. | ||
| So let's go to rule number three. | ||
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Number three, whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. | |
| We have real... | ||
| So, uh... | ||
| So, uh... | ||
| Were you about to play a clip wherein he says, we have real sources? | ||
| No, that's just, that was accidentally the next clip. | ||
| But he's like, when possible, go outside enemy expertise. | ||
| Here is a clip of him from when he was on Rogan. | ||
| Hell, in 2005, the Department of Energy program for aerosol testing was $5 billion a year. | ||
| So under U.S. Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1528, Paragraph B... | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| You nailed that right there? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
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Were you from Mars? | |
| Under U.S. Code, Title... | ||
| Do you live on that obelisk? | ||
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That was fucking insane. | |
| All right, Eddie. | ||
| All right, Eddie Bravo. | ||
| He knows that people aren't going to know what that is, and so he throws it out. | ||
| He goes outside of other people's expertise. | ||
| He takes them off guard, or when he brings up the Hellfire Club and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, that's classic whataboutism. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you don't know what he's talking about, you're not going to be able to engage with it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Most of his globalist narratives are exactly expressing rule number three. | ||
| Rule number four. | ||
| Number four, make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. | ||
| He does that all the time. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Even when it's not... | ||
| Here's where I ran out of time before the show, and I don't have clips to demonstrate all of these, but I think... | ||
| If you are watching this show, you have seen them all demonstrated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's rule five. | ||
| Number five, ridicule is man's most potent weapon. | ||
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As someone who has cops in my family, I'm offended by that because the people I know who are cops, they have kids. | |
| Are they immortal? | ||
| So I don't... | ||
| That was Kennedy. | ||
| Are they immortal? | ||
| Former MTV VJ Kennedy interviewing a guy who's on the left, I guess. | ||
| I don't understand exactly, like, just him saying, are they immortal? | ||
| I mean, like, I don't know if that's... | ||
| Ridicule. | ||
| Are they immortal? | ||
| I think that might just be a snippy comment. | ||
| Wait, but isn't... | ||
| Wait, is she the... | ||
| No, the guy is the liberal. | ||
| He's the Selinskyite. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Really don't want you to indulge in Selinsky either. | ||
| Alex ridicules everybody. | ||
| He called Adam Schiff archetypical cocksucker. | ||
| He does voices to be... | ||
| All the time. | ||
| He does nothing but ridicule people because he has no argument that he can really stand behind. | ||
| Here's rule six. | ||
| Number six, a good tactic is one your people enjoy. | ||
| They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. | ||
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Hey, my dear friends. | |
| No fascist USA! | ||
| No Trump! | ||
| No KKK! | ||
| No fascist USA! | ||
| So the example that he uses is people chanting that at hearing that Jeff Sessions was before. | ||
| I would like him to be in front of the same truck that... | ||
| So we've got to get him to London. | ||
| We've got to get him to London. | ||
| Like in the movie Snatch. | ||
| I would argue that the tactic of paying your audience to yell Bill Clinton is a rapist on TV, that might be indicative of making your tactics appealing to your audience. | ||
| You'd think he would be better at picking out people who break these rules, seeing as how he has a lot of experience doing the rules. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's an Alinskyite. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's made his tactics essentially just bullying anybody with progressive leanings, and that's very appealing to his audience. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| How does he... | ||
| Does he think... | ||
| Okay, so when he chose those clips, does he... | ||
| Did he not have any better clips? | ||
| Like, because, look, I'm sure you could find some. | ||
| I could Google some clips of people saying dumb shit like that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, it wouldn't even be that much research. | ||
| There are much better versions of liberals ridiculing people. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I mean, fuck, just pick our show. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Just do anything that I do. | ||
| Here's rule seven. | ||
| Number seven. | ||
| A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. | ||
| Don't become old news. | ||
| In the last week, Alex Jones has been pitching conspiracy theories about the Las Vegas. | ||
| But when it started to get boring, he switched up into the LA, the HIV thing that we discussed earlier. | ||
| He switched over into all sorts of other things. | ||
| Yeah, that's definitely a rule that we do not follow. | ||
| He constantly moves along. | ||
| He just absolutely, like, you know, we talk about this all the fucking time. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| We don't follow that rule at all! | ||
| Right, but we do follow the next rule, rule eight. | ||
| Number eight, keep the pressure on, never let up. | ||
| Yeah, that one's us. | ||
| I would also like to suggest that that's him, because he's still complaining about Hillary Clinton all the fucking time. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So he's working with this rule. | ||
| So here's rule nine. | ||
| New part of the drinking game. | ||
| Every time they do one of Saul Alinsky's rules, everybody has to drink. | ||
| All right, I'm fine with that. | ||
| Here's rule number nine. | ||
| Number 9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. | ||
| I would argue that Larry Nichols threatening to blackmail Congress is 100% that. | ||
| Alex Jones also threatens to reveal all sorts of secret information, all this stuff. | ||
| So here is rule number 10. Number 10, the major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. | ||
| I don't think John Bowne knows what that means. | ||
| Because he does not have a clip for that one. | ||
| He does not give an example of that one. | ||
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He does nothing. | |
| So in the next one, here's Rule 11. Number eleven, if you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. | ||
| Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. | ||
| I would argue that you would say that it's Antifa getting sympathy, but you could make easily the same argument of your alt-right. | ||
| Fascist weirdos. | ||
| Do you mean Nazis? | ||
| Yeah, getting sympathy by getting beat up all the time. | ||
| Or you presenting it that way. | ||
| Yeah, that BuzzFeed article really put us into that place where it's like... | ||
| Okay, now you're a Nazi until proven otherwise if you're on the alt-right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's end of game. | ||
| I was already there. | ||
| Well, obviously I was already there. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But be that as it may, the idea that whatever argument he's making, it's a two-way street. | ||
| It goes both ways, my friend. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And you're fucking up with this special report, John Bowne. | ||
| So here's Rule 12. Number 12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. | ||
| Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. | ||
| I would argue that they're not great at that. | ||
| They are the worst at that. | ||
| I don't know if they have solutions to literally any of their problems. | ||
| No, but they have fake solutions. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The idea that all coal is clean, that sort of stuff. | ||
| They have fake versions of it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you got into an argument with him about anything, he would have a solution for it. | ||
| It just wouldn't be true. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So here's the last rule. | ||
| Here's rule 13. Number 13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. | ||
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White people. | |
| White people. | ||
| Not me. | ||
| Because you know what? | ||
| Out there, in this, in the premises of the university, I deal with microaggressions on the daily, as do other people. | ||
| I would argue that... | ||
| Most of the time Alex Jones is saying that globalists want to kill your family. | ||
| And they're pedophiles. | ||
| And they want to rape your kids and take them out of your backyard. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| I think that's personalizing it quite a bit. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| So of these 13 rules, because this is where it goes to commercial. | ||
|
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Right, right. | |
| Of these 13 rules. | ||
| We're at 12 out of 13. At least. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because Jon Bowne didn't understand that one, and I'm not sure I do either. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| At a certain point, maybe we should just go through the psychopath test and just be like, oh, that one's Alex. | ||
| I think it's all of them, yeah. | ||
| Oh, that one's Alex. | ||
| Oh, that one's Alex. | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, guys, get it together. | ||
| You have millions of dollars. | ||
| Make a better special report. | ||
| Anyone who's thinking would just see right through that. | ||
| But isn't that one of the rules? | ||
| Like, isn't that one of the rules is ridiculing your enemy's strength? | ||
| So pulling up that... | ||
| Well, it's not ridiculing your enemy's strength. | ||
| It's just ridiculing them. | ||
| It's a powerful weapon. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| But isn't that exactly what that is? | ||
| Leaning directly into it. | ||
| Because that's the same bullshit that we've been dealing with all along. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where Alex is like, whatever it is they say we're doing is what they're doing. | ||
| And so, of course, you go right into the shit that you're... | ||
| Like, all they really need to do is go through a list of the shit that they do and just claim that the other side is doing it. | ||
| Someone asked what you were smoking. | ||
| Oh, somebody asked what you were smoking? | ||
| The thing I would like to say is that the argument that I intended to weave this into... | ||
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Yeah, kids should not watch this show. | |
| Don't glorify smoking. | ||
| The argument that I had hoped to sort of transition this to is sort of just ask you the question, what do you think the enemy is that Alex is using these tricks on? | ||
| Because I would posit it's his audience. | ||
| It's not the globalists. | ||
| Look at the rules. | ||
| Well, the globalists don't exist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But look at the rules. | ||
| Power is not what you have. | ||
| It's what you appear to have. | ||
| He only appears to have this sort of fake secretive information to his audience who has bought into all this. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Globalists or the people in power don't actually believe Alex Jones has shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They don't believe any of this stuff. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| No one cares. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| The only time he shows up in... | ||
| The news is when he's making a fantastical claim or saying some dumb bullshit or, you know, all of that stuff. | ||
| Stay inside your expertise. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what he does with his audience. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And if they call him on it, like with the Sandy Hook bullshit, you just go outside of their expertise and say, well, look, there's a ballistic evidence or why did the school go down? | ||
| That whole thing. | ||
| Make the enemy live up to its own rules. | ||
| Consider that. | ||
| If you believe in liberty you have to give us money. | ||
| We're the only ones who are fighting for your money. | ||
| Ridiculing, I think it's a little more subtle. | ||
| I think they're making fun of their audience just by the virtue of their existence. | ||
| Make your tactics appeal to your audience. | ||
| Switch tactics frequently. | ||
| Never let up. | ||
| Threats work without follow-through. | ||
| He always teases stuff that never comes up in this entire episode. | ||
| We're going to get through... | ||
| Listen, I'm going to get through all of these articles. | ||
| I've got a hundred sheets of paper on my desk. | ||
| We're going to get through every single one of them today. | ||
| Create constant pressure. | ||
| He does that all the time. | ||
| A negative, you know, like getting beat up, is actually a positive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He constantly pretends that he's under massive censorship and oppression when... | ||
| Well, the Secret Service is outside his door. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He is there, on air, unaffected all the time. | ||
| He is not being censored in any way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Though he says abhorrent things and allows Larry Nichols to commit a felony on the air. | ||
| Always have a solution. | ||
| And so do we. | ||
| I mean, we pushed back on it. | ||
| Well, we kind of made him commit a felony. | ||
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We were more asking him if that's what he was actually doing. | |
| You know, all of these things. | ||
| Larry, are you committing a felony right now? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And then he makes it personal. | ||
| He does all of these things to his audience. | ||
| His audience is his enemy. | ||
| He's using whatever these Solilinski tactics are against his audience. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Right. | ||
| Solilinski-ites. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| God damn it, Dan. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| We're done with John Bowne. | ||
| And I apologize for making people listen to his terrible voiceover. | ||
| It's garbage. | ||
| But in this next clip, he gets into some Trump news, and it's incredibly scary. | ||
| This is not a clip I'd heard outside of Infowars, and boy, it's fucking scary. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And so North Korea's out of control. | ||
| I'm not calling for strikes on them, but what if they strike? | ||
| We've got to be in a strong posture here so that we can back them down. | ||
| Get some detente going. | ||
| A lot of folks criticizing Trump on being strong on North Korea, I think, are encouraging our enemies, quite frankly. | ||
| Because this is not the same old neocon government, in my view. | ||
| But right now, let's go ahead and go to this clip. | ||
| This is the call before the storm in case you missed it. | ||
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Well, I don't know if it was the call before the storm. | |
| It couldn't be the call before the storm. | ||
| What storm is it? | ||
| We have the world's great military people in this room, I will tell you that. | ||
| And we're not ready to talk. | ||
| Thank you all for coming. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| What storm, Mr. President? | ||
| You'll find out. | ||
| Give us a hint on your red. | ||
|
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Thank you, everyone. | |
| And as he walked off, he gave thumbs-ups. | ||
| The idea that, like, days ago, he was saying this is the calm before the storm indicates that... | ||
| He's gonna do something. | ||
| Yeah, I think we're gonna see a nuclear weapon dropped. | ||
| I only think that's possible if we do it. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I don't think there's any chance. | ||
| I think it's very possible that Trump is going to detonate a nuclear warhead. | ||
| I think it's more likely than I want it to be. | ||
| Super likely. | ||
| But the idea that the reporters are asking, and he's like, you'll find out, is fucking, that's threatening. | ||
| Very terrifying, right? | ||
| That's a threat. | ||
| That's not like, that's not a... | ||
| Cockettish answer to a question. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, you'll see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That really terrifies me in ways I'm incredibly uncomfortable with. | ||
| So remember earlier, at the beginning of the episode, we found out Jerome Corsi, not sexy. | ||
| He's really boring. | ||
| Not sexy. | ||
| Alex gets deeper into that about how his articles are boring and they don't go viral. | ||
| But then Alex makes a startling omission. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it makes him not a journalist. | ||
| But we already knew that. | ||
| So, the articles don't go viral on Infowars. | ||
| A lot of folks read them, but they're just not viral. | ||
| Like a Paul Watson article. | ||
| But when you talk about delivering, and we're not getting paid any lobbying money for the American people. | ||
| Because that's who we lobby for. | ||
| Myself, you. | ||
| Remember Rand Paul wanted to come on six months ago? | ||
| His plan got pitched through Dr. Corsi and others. | ||
| But frankly, Corsi first put out the plan and got the documents about defunding it and not letting them raid Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. | ||
| He's talking about Obamacare. | ||
| We went over this in detail in an episode like six months ago or so. | ||
| The idea that they were raiding Fannie and Freddie is absolutely not true. | ||
| There's money that came from settlements and stuff like that, and money in the government is fungible. | ||
| It could be moved around all over the place. | ||
| They're making this up. | ||
| But Jerome Corsi apparently is lobbying and In Washington. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| Don't you want your news outlets also lobbying for you? | ||
| No. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| No. | ||
| Don't you need your news outlets to lobby for you? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because they have your best interests at heart. | ||
| I don't believe they do. | ||
| They definitely don't have their own best interests at heart. | ||
| That doesn't sound like human nature at all. | ||
| I don't believe... | ||
| We're all altruistic, especially whenever it's a corporation or perhaps somebody with a serious agenda. | ||
| If Alex Jones was trying to lobby, like if he was successfully lobbying the government and he got his way... | ||
| The school lunch program would be gone, and it would be replaced with Super Male Vitality. | ||
| Or Caveman. | ||
| They'd just have Caveman for all the kids. | ||
| Oh, by the way, I can't get audio of this commercial because it only plays during the live thing. | ||
| The commercials are cut out from what I end up taking the clips from. | ||
| But there's a straight-up commercial for Caveman where he blames Caveman or he gives credit to Caveman for his son going through puberty. | ||
| Well, don't you want that in our elementary schools? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Apes go through puberty much earlier than humans do. | ||
| Isn't that what we are? | ||
| Isn't that what we want to be again? | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| It's just classic male behavior. | ||
| Anyway, here's the rest of the clip. | ||
| So, it's not about credit. | ||
| It's showing how... | ||
| That's why they want to keep InfoWars off the president's desk. | ||
| Because the president, when he gets tax on it... | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| We should get Corsi on tomorrow. | ||
| I'm not poo-pooing, Corsi. | ||
| It's like some guests aren't super viral, but with targeted audiences, they're super effective. | ||
| Look at this article by Kit Daniels. | ||
| As we predicted, Trump assigned Rand Paul health care plan. | ||
| Trump joins forces with Senator Rand Paul. | ||
| And it's got the whole plan to basically defund it. | ||
| Even if they don't get rid of the whole building itself, they just defund it. | ||
| Fake laughs. | ||
| And then that helps the American people not get ripped off. | ||
| It forces states to bring in competition. | ||
| It'll lower prices, give you higher quality care. | ||
| It's not going to do any of that. | ||
| Boy, this is sad. | ||
| We're back again. | ||
| Does he really believe that? | ||
| I feel like that one is one that he really believes. | ||
| Mainly because I don't think he understands how that works. | ||
| First off, he doesn't understand that the insurance industry is ultimately socialized care. | ||
| He doesn't get that the entirety of it is you pay even though you're not sick because people who are sick will use that money. | ||
| And if you get sick, the people who aren't sick are going to... | ||
| Give that money to you in order for you. | ||
| But there's just a corporation skimming off the top. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he has to believe that if you get rid of those protections, then the corporation won't skim the money off the top. | ||
| But what he doesn't understand is that it's the reverse. | ||
| We're going to skim a lot more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think he does believe that one. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| I think that one is dumb. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| On our stupid versus evil continuum. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I think we're in the dumb area. | ||
| But the way you fake laughed like that in the middle of it makes me think evil. | ||
| But also, I think he's a sociopath, so he doesn't know how to laugh in reality. | ||
| I think the most likely thing is that he is dumb, and his alignment is naturally evil. | ||
| And so he just has a baseline of evil, even when he's being dumb. | ||
| I think that's possible. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip... | ||
| Yeah, in your Dungeons& Dragons, like, nine things right there. | ||
| They have to create a ten where it's like, it's not lawful evil or chaotic evil or neutral evil. | ||
| It's just stupid evil. | ||
| In this next clip, Jerome Corsi, not sexy. | ||
| This next clip, super sexy. | ||
| Young people are more interested in threesomes than ever. | ||
| That's a big article out. | ||
| University of New Brunswick found Canadian students thinking more freely about threesomes but are held back by experience because of fear of being stigmatized. | ||
| No. | ||
| What's happening is they're less sexually active now on average. | ||
| Older people are more active. | ||
| And so they see all this online and think that's what a relationship is until they actually experience it. | ||
| And it's not all it's cracked up to be. | ||
| Just ask anybody. | ||
| I've read about that myself. | ||
| Never actually did it. | ||
| I've been divorced. | ||
| The whole psychological studies is that it's not very fun. | ||
| Let's continue. | ||
| I'm unhappily married. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I think this is a new addition to the drinking game. | ||
| In the chat room is Alex Jones says he hasn't done something sexual. | ||
| He totally has. | ||
| I've read about it. | ||
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Fuck off, man. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with that. | ||
| I mean, that can go bad. | ||
| But that's also, like, that's a lot of fun. | ||
| I enjoy that clip. | ||
| But that's a good example of when he's sitting down and trying to get through the news. | ||
| That's how he does it. | ||
| He reads a headline and is like, no! | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| Terrible coverage. | ||
| His news analysis style is just... | ||
| But actually. | ||
| Like, I would never want to be in an improv scene with him. | ||
| Shit improv. | ||
| That would be terrible. | ||
| We have one more clip left, and we get into, finally, some racial shit. | ||
| Why do you not say it like that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| We're not going to talk about the NFL, are we? | ||
| No, the NFL's done for now. | ||
| But what it was is... | ||
| So, some statistics came out today about crime, and I haven't had a chance to read all of them, but the way Alex is presenting them is like, Aha! | ||
| It proves all this crime is black people! | ||
| Transparently false. | ||
| I haven't looked at it, but my gut tells me he's not being accurate. | ||
| That's just my feeling. | ||
| Percentage-wise, if I was a betting man, I'd bet on you. | ||
| I'm fine not knowing entirely at this point. | ||
| Because this is going to come back up on a future show, and I'll get some research by then. | ||
| So for now, tentatively, strongly disagree with Alex. | ||
| But this clip was worth keeping in just because even without knowing anything about what the statistics he's talking about, we can still say he's a piece of shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who's really being targeted racially is white people. | ||
| Does that mean I hate black people? | ||
| No. | ||
| Does that mean most black people are like this? | ||
| No. | ||
| But it means the new Black Panther Party and other groups, including CNN, promote killing white people as if they deserve it because they hype up the few questionable black deaths as if it's the end of the world to create the racial division. | ||
| Totally cold-blooded and completely and totally sickening. | ||
| I'm going to go back to a few of your phone calls here in a moment, but just again briefly. | ||
| It's about to end. | ||
| Caveman with the bone broth, with the turmeric, with the chocolate mushroom, with the other concentrated things like bee pollen. | ||
| It is about to shell out. | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
| Drink. | ||
| What a piece of garbage. | ||
| Have you even heard from the new Black Panther Party in years? | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, that's just another boogeyman. | ||
| And also, look, neither of those two. | ||
| Are advocating for killing white people because they deserve it. | ||
| I am. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think that Alex would, like, that goes along with his narrative because he says it's freaked out white people who are doing it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whacked out white people. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, that's me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, if you're gonna... | ||
| I would be fine if he picked me as a boogeyman. | ||
| Oh, that'd be great. | ||
| Mainly because I'm... | ||
| I think Larry Nichols is going to now. | ||
| He's not gonna be able to sleep tonight. | ||
| Oh my god, I can't wait. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Like, you called him, left a message, then multiple people called him and told him to call you. | ||
| How freaked out is he going to be? | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| And it's a house phone, so he didn't keep your number from before. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| He doesn't remember. | ||
|
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Oh, Jordan was the guy who called me and asked about Alex that one time months ago. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to have to seriously write down some questions. | ||
|
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Nah. | |
| Because if he wants to talk again tomorrow, then I want to make sure that we actually do have... | ||
| I can wing it. | ||
| Look, because he... | ||
| I got a lot to ask him. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Tell me more about Linda Bloodworth Thomas. | ||
| You know... | ||
| He can't hear you. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| You'd have to talk. | ||
| I'd need to go buy a new cord for the board. | ||
| Well, he did hear you on that one question. | ||
| And I do have it on speaker, so you're going to have to yell it. | ||
| Alright, we'll figure it out. | ||
| But anyway, so today we got through Alex is stupid. | ||
| He's convoluting this Las Vegas narrative to the point where he can't even keep track of what's going on. | ||
| He has totally real sources. | ||
| John Bowne sucks at doing his job. | ||
| I mean, you know what? | ||
| I was sitting there at work today. | ||
| Or John Bowne is amazing at doing his job. | ||
| When his job is he's a sleeper cell? | ||
| Well, unless his job is voiceover, in which we can both agree. | ||
| But if your job is to insist that the other side is doing what your side is doing, crushed it. | ||
| Well, but he did it so poorly that it makes it obvious. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look, the thing that I came to when I was listening today was just like... | ||
| This show is bad. | ||
| And I know that that's like... | ||
| I'm ten months into intense studying of Alex Jones. | ||
| And today, for one of the first times, I was like, man, I would like to get them in shape. | ||
| They need a manager. | ||
| Yeah, you know? | ||
| They need someone who's not Alex telling them, like, this is not going to fly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| John Bowne, do you think this report is good enough? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex, come on. | ||
| You've got to make these less transparent moves to ads. | ||
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Right. | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| This is clunky as shit. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| This is a professional operation. | ||
| So your main problem with the show today is it wasn't slick enough to be really effectively evil. | ||
| No, I had many other problems. | ||
| But it was one of the first times that it really got in my head that it's like, they need a program director. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They definitely do. | ||
| Because at the beginning of this entire podcast, your entire thought process was like, Look, this dude is good at what he does. | ||
| I think he's bad. | ||
| I think he's evil. | ||
| I stand behind a lot of that. | ||
| Not today! | ||
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No. | |
| Not today, man. | ||
| No, but I think he still is good at what he does. | ||
| Bring back Rainbow Snatch, that's all I'm saying. | ||
| I still think he's good at what he does in terms of, like... | ||
| Being slippery and yelling on a mic. | ||
| But I don't think that he's good at what he does in terms of running the entire operation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know how much Buckley is doing, but maybe he should do more behind the scenes. | ||
| He needs more people better behind the scenes because this shit is bad. | ||
| It's a bad show. | ||
| But that is the inevitable issue with that, right? | ||
| And it's the same thing with Trump. | ||
| Trump is a horrible, evil psychopath who's going to get us all killed. | ||
| But, as far as that guy getting elected, he has to be good at fucking something. | ||
| He's very slick, and it's the same thing with Alex. | ||
| But, if you're not an idiot, you know you don't want to work with him. | ||
| Because that's a dumb shit idea. | ||
| So the only people that will work with him are fucking stupid and bad. | ||
| That's why he needs a bright-eyed, young, competent program director named Dan. | ||
| Is that the secret idea behind this whole podcast? | ||
| This is the secret of 2017. | ||
| Dan, by the end of 2017, shall whip InfoWars into shape. | ||
| The problem there is that they're a bad propaganda outlet. | ||
| I mean, if I were Trump, I would be kind of ashamed of the sloppiness of it. | ||
| But he can't be ashamed of anything. | ||
| He's unashamed. | ||
| He's unashamed. | ||
| That's why I said if I were him. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| But the thing I was thinking about was, like, I accidentally have watched a little bit of the real news with David Knight, and he's boring as shit. | ||
| He doesn't have the skills that Alex has, but the show is much better produced. | ||
| David Knight doesn't freak out and lose his place in things. | ||
| Whenever he does the ads, they're very concise. | ||
| They're a little more classy in terms of how he gets into them. | ||
| He always knows when commercials are coming up. | ||
| He's never caught off guard. | ||
| He's never in the middle of screaming before a commercial. | ||
| He's a boring but competent broadcaster. | ||
| At least in terms of, like, what is acceptable broadcasting. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I know that... | ||
| In NFL terms, he's a game manager. | ||
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Right. | |
| As a quarterback. | ||
| Or a ring general for our pro wrestling fans out there. | ||
| But, like, I, at the same time, understand that Alex Jones... | ||
| He's Steve Nash. | ||
| Alex Jones would not be what he is if he wasn't bad at his job in some way. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So it is this... | ||
| It's this classic... | ||
| It's a... | ||
| Paradox. | ||
| But that's the... | ||
| It's a paradox that makes him interesting. | ||
| Well, that's the crazy man theory of foreign policy, though, is that an unhinged actor is somebody that is far more threatening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if you have a Nixon in there, it's like, I'm more afraid of America because I have no fucking clue what that guy is going to do. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Or Trump. | ||
| The prediction in the chat room is by next year I will be working at Infowars and you will have a gun. | ||
| And then the further prediction is you wouldn't pass a background check. | ||
| No, I... | ||
| Listen, I would pass a background check, but I can't have a gun because I have a history of mental illness and my medication is working perfectly right now, but I can't have one because... | ||
| History has shown that you could still get one. | ||
| Well, I know... | ||
| No, no, no, that's... | ||
| I won't get one on my terms. | ||
| I support that. | ||
| Because it's too terrifying to me. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Because it's a button. | ||
| It's a button. | ||
| The... | ||
| It's like that Staples commercial. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The big thing that has kept me from killing myself in the past has always been that... | ||
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Access. | |
| It would be a lot of work. | ||
| Lack of access. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hassle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, great way to put it for National Mental Health. | ||
| I mean, a lot of the time, one of the big... | ||
| Like, you would have to take apart my razor to get the razor blades out, and that would just be a lot of work, and you can't... | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't get a good grip on them if they come out of the Mach 4. Right. | ||
| And when I... | ||
| So I did... | ||
| If we're going to... | ||
| You know, Mental Health Awareness Day. | ||
| I did attempt to jump. | ||
| And that did not go well. | ||
| Guys, is that on the drinking game? | ||
| How many... | ||
| Has Jordan attempted suicide? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Got a drink. | ||
| But no, I mean... | ||
| Would you try to jump off? | ||
| My railing. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We talked about that. | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| For some reason, I jumped in the context of in front of a car or off a building. | ||
| No, it was off a third floor balcony. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Which, in retrospect, is like, come on, man. | ||
| That's not going to work. | ||
| You'd have to dive and your neck would have to... | ||
| It'd be terrible. | ||
| At the time, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I've always been more of a taking a bunch of pills guy, but be that as it may, everyone out there, our message on National Mental Health Day is having these sorts of things in your past is okay. | ||
| It doesn't mean you're broken and you can get better. | ||
| There is help. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And I suppose, I don't know why we... | ||
| Give me one of those beers. | ||
| I don't know why we jumped onto this, but... | ||
| You did! | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I'm going to say we. | ||
| No, I just think that the big thing is to keep trying. | ||
| Just because I've gone through a bunch of different psychiatrists. | ||
| Keep on keeping on. | ||
| And if I had stopped at any point in time, I would never have actually got onto the meds that I'm on now, and they work perfectly. | ||
| So that's my advice to everybody. | ||
| Keep trying. | ||
| If you take any... | ||
| If you take any failure or setback in terms of progress as evidence that progress isn't going to happen or is impossible, you're setting yourself up for massive failure. | ||
| And, you know, it's very attractive to do that, but be that as it may. | ||
| Weird way to end. | ||
| Weird way to end. | ||
| You know someone who I wish would stop crying? | ||
| You know someone I wish would jump off the third floor balcony? | ||
| This one guy. | ||
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They can land right on his fake teeth. | |
| And they can go right up into his head. | ||
| That guy can go fuck himself. | ||
| Who's that guy? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Is it Larry Nichols? | ||
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No. | |
| No, we want to talk to him tomorrow. | ||
| Also, let's see if he has Rappaport's number. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| If he has Rappaport's number, I'm going to jerk off. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| Then we could call him, and at the end of the show, tell him. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, John Rappaport. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |