That ship has sailed. We ain't leaving NATO. That's imagination land. You know, that's Trump posturing. I want to make that extremely clear.

What happened here is that Zelensky spoke to the European Council last week, and in his speech, he mentioned that he told Trump that in order to preserve his country, he would need to join NATO or become a nuclear country. Sure. There's no timeframe for when he said this to Trump, and the clear message he was sending is: we want to be in NATO. It was not that I want nukes. Right. It was the security guarantees. Right. I would like the power of nukes without having to have the responsibility of nukes. Ukraine is a country that has a solid record in terms of being on the side of nuclear non-proliferation. So it really doesn't make a lot of sense that they would all of a sudden just start making nuclear bombs. Zelensky used this as a way of illustrating how existential the need to join NATO was for Ukraine.

Also, Sweden isn't a part of NATO.

Germany has responded and said that Ukraine's NATO membership will not take place, says the German Chancellor. That's Schultz.