#677: May 4, 2022
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex responded to the Supreme Court news. It's part surprising, part not. Also, Alex discusses a man who was beaten with tuna fins. Citations
May 6, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
|
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I'm Dan. | |
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you, sir. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot, my dear boy, is second chances. | ||
| laughter Sorry, I wasn't expecting a foghorn leghorn. | ||
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I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, my bright spot is... | |
| Second chances! | ||
| So, a while back, I had been very excited about the release of Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity. | ||
| Oh, you weren't talking about your dating service? | ||
| No. | ||
| The Dynasty Warriors-style game with the Legend of Zelda characters. | ||
| I'm notoriously a big fan of Hyrule Warriors, the original one. | ||
| It's your style. | ||
| And I was strongly disappointed by Age of Calamity. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| That was when it was released, and I played it for a little bit, and then I put it down, because I was like, God, this isn't scratching the itch I want it to scratch. | ||
| It's not right. | ||
| And I gave it some thought, and I decided, let's see if that's as bad as I thought it was. | ||
| And I went back to play a little bit of it, and I've been enjoying it. | ||
| So, my bright spot is that there's a... | ||
| Fair amount of fun gameplay in there that I did not give a fair shake to. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And I've dug it out of the mine. | ||
| I like this bright spot. | ||
| We're trading off similar bright spots here. | ||
| For me, it's not second chances. | ||
| For me, it's my 45th or 6th chance. | ||
| I'll say. | ||
| You know, I've talked about the Games Down Quick in the past. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Well, there was a recent one done by the organizers of Games Down Quick, but it was all women, called Frame Fatale, I think, or whatever it is. | ||
| And it was incredibly inclusive. | ||
| Like, super, it was great. | ||
| It was fantastic. | ||
| And so, somebody was playing Final Fantasy Tactics, my friend. | ||
| And I had to pick it back up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is my 47th or 48th playthrough. | ||
| I'm on 50 or 60 playthroughs. | ||
| Completed playthroughs or just abandoned? | ||
| This is, it is one of the greatest games. | ||
| And here's what's going to happen. | ||
| Whenever you bring up a game like this, it's like when you bring up The Wire or something. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Everybody who knows, like everybody in the internet is going to go like, oh man, Final Fantasy Tactics is great. | ||
| And then somebody's going to go like, I've never played it. | ||
| And everybody's going to pile on like, what are you? | ||
| I'll see you in a week. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Obscure references thrown at you. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| That game for me, I think, might be... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm trying to think of what have I played an excessive amount of times. | ||
| And I think it's got to be one of the Pikmin games. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I've played those a lot. | ||
| I've beaten them and played them through... | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| That game is very charming for me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then maybe Eternal Darkness. | ||
| I haven't played that in years and years, but I definitely beat it. | ||
| A lot of times. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| No, I mean, it's one of those games, nobody, you know, you've played tactics games before, you know, like... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know what it means. | ||
| I mean, it's like a board structure, you know, like there's a combat situation. | ||
| Like civilization? | ||
| Where, a little bit like that, but not hexagonal. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's regular. | ||
| Regular. | ||
| It's square. | ||
| Rectangular. | ||
| Does it play out like a RPG, like a standard RPG kind of? | ||
| There are turns. | ||
| It plays out more like a chess game. | ||
| You have these characters who can move in certain ways and do certain things, and then you have an enemy that can do the same or different, and then you figure out a way to get through it. | ||
| It's like Risk. | ||
| It's a little bit like that. | ||
| I mean, it's hard to explain, but... | ||
| I have talked to people who have never played another game similar to this at all who love it. | ||
| It's the only type. | ||
| It doesn't sound wildly familiar to me, the style. | ||
| I may give it a try at some point, see if I can get absorbed into your nonsense world. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, I need anything to absorb me from this nonsense world. | ||
| Hey, how you doing? | ||
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Ooh, nice. | |
| So we had every intention of doing a Wednesday episode. | ||
| Sneak on that snake. | ||
| We were fucking raring to go. | ||
| Well, especially, I mean, given the last couple modern day episodes, there was something worth paying attention to that was, we're all gonna die, goodbye, my dear friends. | ||
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Right. | |
| Smash cut to, you got a million dollars. | ||
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I got a million dollars! | |
| And now you will all die. | ||
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My enemies will be crushed under God's boot. | |
| It was a troubling... | ||
| Yeah, who dies in the apocalypse is very dependent on who has a million or not a million dollars at any given point in time. | ||
| Yeah, and so I checked in on Monday, and the show wasn't really anything interesting. | ||
| It was kind of snooze. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so for Wednesday, I was thinking, you know, try and get a Wacky Wednesday together or do a 2003 episode. | ||
| And then, of course... | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Someone read the news in six weeks. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You might want to sit down. | ||
| I might need to. | ||
| The, you know, the Supreme Court released that, or I guess they didn't release it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They strongly did not release it. | ||
| The draft opinion about overturning Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Which is some bullshit. | ||
| I mean, listen, it's 2022, and I want my legal opinions to reference people who've burned witches. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I want to make sure that... | ||
| We keep a continuity between the past and the present. | ||
| U.S. vs. | ||
| Goody Proctor. | ||
| I don't think Goody Proctor was somebody who burned the witch. | ||
| I think he might have been one of the people who got... | ||
| She was the person who got... | ||
| Who am I thinking of? | ||
| Corey. | ||
| Giles Corey. | ||
| No, he was a guy who got crushed. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I go right back to Witchfinder General in Britain in, like, the 1700s. | ||
| I got nothing, yeah. | ||
| So, it's bad times. | ||
| And, you know, obviously, I'm curious to see what Alex thinks about that. | ||
| And so, Wednesday... | ||
| What we were going to do for that was because the news broke Monday evening. | ||
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Sure. | |
| We were going to cover Tuesday's show for Wednesday, which we would have recorded on Tuesday. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| Turned it around instantaneously. | ||
| It would have been a real hassle. | ||
| It would have been work. | ||
| But it would have been worth it. | ||
| Unfortunately, Owen Schroer was in studio. | ||
| So who gives a fuck? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it did, I gotta say, you know, watching a little bit of that and seeing some of the responses on social media and seeing some of the, you know, video titles and posting on Infowars, I would be lying if I said it didn't sort of trigger some of that stuff from election night. | ||
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2017, whenever they were laughing and... | |
| Yeah, the election night. | ||
| laughing at people who were sincerely worried about being in danger because of rights being taken. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And, you know, obviously it wasn't as impactful and severe as that shock that evening, perhaps that image, but there were shades of it, and it kind of made me a little bit grossed out. | |
| It's tough to exist in a space where you know that somebody just handed down a death sentence as sure and as certain as if they pulled a fucking gun, but... | ||
| You know, it's not going to happen right away, so you don't know who it is. | ||
| And so you don't worry about it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then even on top of that, you have the ominous portent of various other Supreme Court decisions that could be eroded very easily. | ||
| And, you know, it's a bummer. | ||
| And I think that's putting it way too lightly. | ||
| And I don't know if I have some of the correct words necessarily to describe the response. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Genociders? | ||
| So Alex got back into studio on Wednesday, and so we're going to go over his response here. | ||
| Some of it, I don't think you'll be able to predict. | ||
| Some of it, quite predictable. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine that is the way to go. | ||
| One thing I've got to give it up to him for, I guess. | ||
| Nope, nope, not doing that. | ||
| No, but I was kind of surprised, and I'm just going to tell you in advance. | ||
| He's not really all that focused on who leaked the decision. | ||
| Good for him! | ||
| That's the main right-wing talking point. | ||
| Yeah, that's the right-wing's whole thing. | ||
| Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, listen, listen, this is the most unpopular thing we're ever going to do today. | ||
| But look over here. | ||
| But, I mean, how could they leak it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| How? | ||
| It's worse than January 6th. | ||
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Oh, this is the worst thing that's ever happened to us. | |
| At least, you know, I get what you're saying about you don't have to give it up for him, and I agree. | ||
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No. | |
| But it is surprising to me that he didn't just jump on that. | ||
| It's very easy. | ||
| You could yell about that for a while. | ||
| The sanctity of the court and all that nonsense. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| But yeah, that doesn't really factor in too heavily. | ||
| But we'll see what does in a moment. | ||
| But first, we've got to say hello to some new wons. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Spencer and Chris get on disc. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, this might be Cockney rhyming slang. | ||
| Owen Schroyer's broken lawyer. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That's just called a better call Saul. | ||
| Next, John from downtown Canada. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, John! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Jared Walsh is an all-star. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Stevie P and Ginny T sitting in a tree. | ||
| K-A-S-S-I-N-G. | ||
| I screwed up the rhyme structure of that. | ||
| No, you did great. | ||
| No, policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Alex Jones is a globalist. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, Andy in Kansas sounds a lot like Ambien Candy. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And I started listening while applying to public health grad schools. | ||
| Now I'm an actual health department policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you! | |
| All right. | ||
| So we start off here at the beginning of Alex's show, and here is what he has got going on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The right of a woman to kill her child is abortion. | ||
| Biden says the quiet part out loud. | ||
| But more and more, people like Gloria Steinem of the Central Intelligence Agency on record... | ||
| Wear shirts saying, I had an abortion and I'll do it again. | ||
| And they talk about how they like it and how it made them feel good and how it empowers them to kill their child. | ||
| This is not a minority of these leftist women. | ||
| This is the majority of them have been basically endowed with the satanic spirit of when they aborted their baby because they were lied to that it wasn't a human. | ||
| Instead of having the Holy Spirit soften their heart and repent of it and say, I'm not going to be part of this anymore. | ||
| They said, no! | ||
| I'm glad I did it. | ||
| And you see the leftist ideology now becoming purely satanic because its roots were always satanic. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| The left wing's always been satanic, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's so refreshing to see a voice who's above the left-right paradigm, man. | ||
| You know, in his entire career, he has been, too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Straight shooting all the way. | ||
| The whole time, just wanted to make sure everybody knew that he's above the left-right paradigm. | ||
| Also, Biden didn't say that shit. | ||
| No, of course he fucked! | ||
| It's a little weird, though, but there's something kind of simple about Alex's position that I can appreciate on one level. | ||
| His opposition to reproductive health care is so clearly not based in rationality or a political position. | ||
| It's purely a product of religious zealotry. | ||
| There is no responsibility to argue with a position like the one he holds because there's literally nothing you can say that would dissuade him from thinking that you're just Satan trying to seduce him away from righteousness. | ||
| Real world people get hurt. | ||
| Ah, you're Satan. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| I suspect that a lot of people on his side hold similar positions, but they pretend that they're driven by some kind of political belief to gain the appearance of respectability and trick people into thinking that there's a point in arguing with them. | ||
| And with Alex, there is no point. | ||
| It's very clear. | ||
| It's just, I have wacky fundamentalist religious ideas about this, and I will not be swayed. | ||
| Dan, I mean, it's almost like... | ||
| I'm going to follow this up, and this is going to sound crazy to me, but in 2022, I think there are only bad faith conversations about abortion if they aren't, I'm using it to hurt women, or I'm using it because I believe God makes me want to do that. | ||
| There is no other conversation. | ||
| I mean, look, I obviously... | ||
| I don't really believe that this is entirely even honest, because I don't believe Alex is fully capable of that. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Yeah, he's not even that religious! | ||
| I don't think it's fully good faith, but it is clearly an indication of a dead end. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, like, you know, there's no point. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is your belief. | ||
| I find it abhorrent. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| You're a monster. | ||
| So Alex discusses his experience with abortion, and as we know from listening to the show, as much as we have, Alex has paid for at least ten, maybe more. | ||
| So here's what he's gonna do. | ||
| Oh, I can see this clearly. | ||
| So what he's gonna do is he's gonna wrestle with his current life now, and if abortion were illegal whenever he wanted to get them. | ||
| So his life, he would never have made it to the position No, instead, actually, conversely, what he tends to do, and I've heard this on a number of occasions, is because he was able to access these reproductive health choices, he now has the luxury of being able to romanticize the idea of what if these kids were alive? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know, what if I did have 14 children? | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| He'd be a long-haul trucker. | ||
| He gets to play that game because he did get the benefit of these policies that he is so against. | ||
| I think you might have actually argued me all the way to the side of being like, if Alex had not been able to get abortions, we wouldn't have had Alex and we would have had another long-haul trucker. | ||
| Well, I think that doesn't justify anything. | ||
| It's a bad argument. | ||
| It is. | ||
| So here's Alex talking about how he got off the abortion wagon, let's say. | ||
| I was touched by the Holy Spirit when I was about 18, 19 and had nightmares about it and really was upset and said, I'm not going to sit there and just shell out 300 bucks every time I get a chick pregnant. | ||
| Because even if I wore a condom and stuff, back then I was so fertile I could look at a woman and get them pregnant. | ||
| That's how science works! | ||
| I mean, I still am. | ||
| I'm 48 years old. | ||
| But the point is that... | ||
| My dad confronted me when I was about 17. I was about to move out of the house and I needed money. | ||
| He goes, oh, you need 300 bucks again. | ||
| Let me guess. | ||
| You're killing another one of my grandchildren. | ||
| He said, you need to stop it. | ||
| Real proud of you, Dad. | ||
| Stop killing my grandchildren. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| You can grab my arm really intensely. | ||
| I set that off in my soul and my mind that what I'd done was wrong. | ||
| Okay, this is... | ||
| That deserves an award. | ||
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That's just fucked up. | |
| This is so fucked up. | ||
| Can we not, like, this is the type of short clip that reveals all of the things that they assume are just acceptable. | ||
| Like, we don't need to worry about things. | ||
| You know, like, my dad was like, hey, I need some money, so my dad was going to give me money. | ||
| At no point in time is he like, well, what if my dad didn't give me money? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What if he didn't have that money to give me? | ||
| At no point does that occur to him. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also just think that this belies like a really... | ||
| I mean, it's pretty fucked up. | ||
| The dynamics here he's describing are just like... | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| You clearly have a lot more feelings about this that have nothing to do with the policy of reproductive health care that maybe you should unpack in a therapeutic setting instead of drinking them away. | ||
| Maybe the world would be a better place and you would stop seeing demons everywhere if you took care of yourself. | ||
| If you really engage with what he just said as a thing that's true... | ||
| Man, I don't want to pull that thread. | ||
| There's some darker shit behind that. | ||
| Of course, but that's for a therapist to deal with. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Unfortunately, he'd probably start talking about it on air, then we'd have to cover it. | ||
| He can't go to therapy, because then he'd be like, my therapist said, after I told him about this, oh, we'd be fucked. | ||
| Yeah, at a certain point, that would be too much for us. | ||
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No, we can't handle it. | |
| Jump over to, uh... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The Home Shopping Network? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, Alex gets back to that clip of Biden that he mentioned, where he said, killing your baby is abortion. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| He has not heard this clip. | ||
| That's a surprise! | ||
| Yeah, and so he sets it up as if it is Biden saying, killing your... | ||
| Which he didn't do. | ||
| But unfortunately, yeah. | ||
| And so let's go to a few of these clips. | ||
| Here is Biden saying the quiet part out loud, and this is really hurting them bad, where he says, build a shared for yourself. | ||
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Well, the idea that we're going to make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court, I think goes way overboard. | |
| What a hero. | ||
| So you heard it right there, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| The quote. | ||
| The decision to abort a child. | ||
| The decision to abort is actually murder. | ||
| That is not the quote. | ||
| Unsurprisingly, he says the decision to abort is the decision to abort a child is the quote. | ||
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Wow. | |
| There's some leftists. | ||
| Yeah, let's jump to some leftists. | ||
| Yeah, let's switch it. | ||
| Let's get off this subject. | ||
| That was a little fumbly there. | ||
| Now, here's what's going on, is that the quiet part loud issue that he's reading in headlines refers to Biden referring to this as a child. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not the killing part. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Alex has misinterpreted this headline, and he's overselling it like you should kill your kids. | ||
| No, it's that Biden called a fetus a child. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And Alex has fumbled this so badly that... | ||
| This is how it comes out. | ||
| Also, every time Alex says the quiet part loud, he owes me five dollars. | ||
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True. | |
| That is true. | ||
| It's trademarked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex has some shocking news to report. | ||
| More than ten states, like California and New York, have laws to kill babies up to after they're born. | ||
| When? | ||
| What time? | ||
| A week? | ||
| Two weeks? | ||
| That was wide ranging. | ||
| That's covered all of the people. | ||
| Name those 10 plus states. | ||
| Show me the bills or shut the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I would take as much offense, I believe, if someone whose political beliefs I agreed with... | ||
| Spoke this loosely about issues that mattered. | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Even if they were theoretically right, you know, like, oh, okay, abortion being legal is an overwhelmingly popular concept. | ||
| I'll tell you that because 6,000 states have signed it into a constitutional amendment. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, it's irresponsible and presenting a fictional world for his audience to be very afraid of. | ||
| Now, Alex makes some statements about the choice to abort pregnancy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's a woman's own and he has no... | ||
| Well, it's between a person and God. | ||
| I was not expecting God to be involved. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And I believe that everything is between God and man. | ||
| God and humans. | ||
| God and woman. | ||
| And you know if a woman wants to go to some killer and have her baby killed, that's between you and God. | ||
| And the Supreme Court's about to rule that under the federalist system, it's up to the states. | ||
| And I agree with that. | ||
| But it's not enough for Democrats. | ||
| They want to be able to go anywhere they want and have them anytime. | ||
| And they're the same people that want to kill as many children as they can, want to euthanize the old people, and they also want to access... | ||
| To your children and make them wear masks, make them take deadly shots, and brainwash them into lifestyles where they won't be happy or healthy or part of a nuclear family. | ||
| Seems to be suggesting that people have destination abortions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, okay, so in a lot of states, in order to get married, you have to go to a judge, you have to get a license. | ||
| But in Nevada, you can just, you know, it's the same thing. | ||
| I think that's a little bizarre. | ||
| But also, this is bullshit, what Alex is saying. | ||
| He doesn't believe that this is an issue that should be decided by the state. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| If he believes that everything is between a person and God, then he shouldn't give a single shit what laws exist that protect access to reproductive care. | ||
| Because guess what? | ||
| It doesn't involve him at all. | ||
| It's between that person and God. | ||
| Doesn't God give you free will, too? | ||
| And if he thinks they're damned, then who cares? | ||
| It doesn't involve you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex believes that we all maybe deserve to die in some kind of an extinction-level event because... | ||
| Society is so evil and allows abortion, so he can just cut out this act where he's pretending that he has some kind of tolerant position. | ||
| It's tacky, cowardly, and dishonest, and they don't have time for it. | ||
| Also, that part at the end there should be a decent indication of what's to come and where the rhetoric is going. | ||
| This part about kids being happy and healthy and part of a nuclear family... | ||
| That should ring off loud alarm bells that the next goal is obviously going to be rolling back protections for the LGBTQ folk, and it would be pretty naive to imagine that's where things are going to stop. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| Ultimately, people in Alex's philosophical community don't believe in the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act. | ||
| Literally, I mean, I'm not saying that this is exactly what's going to happen, but I think a lot that we took for granted is on the table in terms of being under threat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In coming times. | ||
| Oh my god, who could have seen this coming? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I mean, it's scary, but I don't want to get into a place of catastrophizing, you know? | ||
| But I think it's smart to not also take for granted that... | ||
| Things are settled law, as people like to say. | ||
| You know, this is a thing, though, where it's like, shit's gonna get weird fast. | ||
| And then it's gonna get bad. | ||
| And there's really not much anybody can do to stop it after this. | ||
| It feels like it may. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it's just, you know, it's almost fucking Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost. | ||
| You know, there's a giant fucking stone roll and you gotta run. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So Alex gets to some news, I think. | ||
| But I've got some really important news. | ||
| We're going to get to continuing on this front. | ||
| MSNBC talking head labels, founding fathers, racist, misogynist, jerk faces. | ||
| We've got that. | ||
| Coming up next segment, Tucker Carlson reminds America that its current president voted against Roe v. | ||
| Wade. | ||
| Oh, that's how long Biden's been around. | ||
| That's great that Tucker reminded people of Biden's past vote. | ||
| The New York Times reminded people of it in 2019 before he was elected. | ||
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What? | |
| Yes, that's what you expect from the evil, liberal mainstream media. | ||
| If you want the nuanced explanation for this, it's that Biden comes from a Catholic background, and his initial belief was that Roe vs. | ||
| Wade, that decision was the court going too far. | ||
| In 1982, about nine years into his time in Congress, a constitutional amendment was proposed to allow states to overturn the ruling, and Biden voted for it while it was in committee. | ||
| He said at the time, quote, I'm probably a victim or a product, however you want to phrase it, of my background, calling it, quote, the single most difficult vote I've cast as a US senator. | ||
| Here's the thing, though. | ||
| That bill never made it to the full Senate, and it never came to a formal vote itself. | ||
| The next year, an identical bill was proposed, and Biden voted against it. | ||
| This isn't the gotcha that Alex and Tucker are pretending it is, and the hot and cold history Biden has with abortion rights is something that's been widely discussed in all sorts of outlets for quite a while. | ||
| The only way this could seem like Tucker making a novel point is if you just have no familiarity with Biden except as the cartoon character that the right-wing media has presented him as. | ||
| You're telling on yourself when you think that this is shocking. | ||
| I mean, it is amazing to me that Tucker is pulling that out like, see, whenever literally all of us are like, yeah, that's why we fucking hated that guy in the first fucking place. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why there's some hesitancy around him or some reluctance. | ||
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Yeah, that's why it took a lot of bullshit. | |
| So, there's a Spider-Man on the loose. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| It's not Miles Morales. | ||
| Not Miles Morales? | ||
| He's my favorite. | ||
| Peter B. Parker? | ||
| That one's... | ||
| He's great. | ||
| It's not Peter Porker. | ||
| It's not Peter... | ||
| Oh, John Mulaney would have been a great Spider-Pig. | ||
| It's not the Nick Cage one. | ||
| It's a guy who climbed a tower in San Francisco to protest stuff. | ||
| Ah, he's a good dude. | ||
| Wow, we'll cover this when we come back, too. | ||
| Pro-life Spider-Man. | ||
| Free climbs, second tallest, California, California, Tower in California in protest of abortion. | ||
| Scale the 60 plus story building freehand. | ||
| And he got arrested. | ||
| And a lot of folks on Twitter made the point, wow, he finally found something you can get arrested for in San Francisco. | ||
| What? | ||
| In San Francisco, if you shoot a white person, You will not even be charged now. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| There was a few years ago they shot that poor woman, the Hispanic guy did, in the back because she was white. | ||
| And the white jury led him off saying, well, you're Hispanic. | ||
| That's how psychotic they are there. | ||
| But don't worry, he's been arrested, folks, for bringing attention to saving the children. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, I feel like that one's on our 03 episodes. | ||
| It shows how much Alex actually cares about that story, that he can't even remember that the woman he's using to stoke racial hatred was named Kate Steinle. | ||
| He doesn't even remember because he doesn't give a shit about her, except as a prop that he can use to foment white fear. | ||
| Also, short refresher in case you haven't heard those episodes from way back. | ||
| I think it was like 2015. | ||
| I mean, absurd. | ||
| Short refresher here. | ||
| She wasn't shot in the back because she was white. | ||
| A man who happened to be an undocumented immigrant picked up something covered in a rag, which turned out to be a gun. | ||
| Unintentionally, the gun discharged and a bullet ricocheted and ended up hitting him. | ||
| Yeah, it's a risk. | ||
| You gotta do it. | ||
| He was arrested last year for scaling a hotel in Vegas protesting COVID restrictions. | ||
| But his charges were dropped, and now he got a couple misdemeanors for this stunt. | ||
| But I'd bet anything that these get dropped to. | ||
| They're minor shitless. | ||
| I mean, let me put it this way. | ||
| Ideologically speaking, I'm above the left-right paradigm here, okay? | ||
| When you were saying ideologically speaking, you put your palms forward in a way that I thought you were trying to stick onto a building. | ||
| No, no, I'm gonna Spider-Man lay up this metaphor. | ||
| I thought you had suction cups on your hands. | ||
| I mean, listen, if you're gonna try and use climbing a building in protest as a way to make money... | ||
| You market that to the right. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And you should probably get, like, sponsors to get on your back. | ||
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Totally. | |
| You know, like the celebrity boxing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The left is gonna be like, get down. | ||
| Get down from there. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
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This is silly. | |
| I don't think that's entirely true because people on the other side of the aisle do get arrested for this and have. | ||
| Like Patricia Okumu, who climbed the Statue of Liberty in protest a couple years back about family separation. | ||
| I remember. | ||
| The right-wing media doesn't cover stories like that, though, except for, like... | ||
| Some sort of outrage immediately, and then when the attention dies down, they don't follow up and see that they got arrested. | ||
| So Alex just doesn't know that that happened, and he assumes that liberals just get away with everything. | ||
| Right, but when they climb the... | ||
| They didn't ask for a million dollars. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| That is a fair point. | ||
| Do you see there's a difference? | ||
| But ballooning out from there, zooming out, larger picture, Alex is really dumb. | ||
| And he's a huge racist. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we can just sort of bank on those as being fairly consistent. | ||
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Yes. | |
| But you know who's also dumb and racist? | ||
| God, so many people these days. | ||
|
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Trump. | |
| And he has some thoughts about the midterms and candidates and who he likes. | ||
| The people that support Trump are the very best in the world. | ||
| And the movement is excellent. | ||
| And Trump's getting a lot of good nationalists and populists elected all over the country. | ||
| And he's not perfect, but they hate him because they know he's effective at energizing the populist awakening. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Clean sweep. | ||
| All 22 Trump-backed candidates win primaries in Ohio and Indiana. | ||
| All 22. He's endorsed close to 1,000 candidates and two have lost. | ||
| 1,000 candidates. | ||
| Track record. | ||
| And it scares them. | ||
| That's such shit. | ||
| Terrifies them. | ||
| So what Alex is conveniently not mentioning about these 22 candidates that Trump endorsed who won their primaries is that only four of them weren't incumbents. | ||
| That makes a little bit of a difference in terms of having such a great batting average. | ||
| The incumbency bias is really high. | ||
| Trump actually does, though. | ||
| He does have a pretty good record with endorsements. | ||
| But this hidden dynamic does come up, like this incumbency thing. | ||
| For instance, he supported 149 candidates in the 2020 House elections and... | ||
| 116 of them won. | ||
| Of all of them that he got wrong, only two were incumbents, and his record with backing challengers was less impressive than the overall number. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So it'd be like if somebody was regularly picking the Globetrotters. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're crushing it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, to some extent. | ||
| I mean, like, if the Globetrotters did occasionally lose. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Rarely, but occasionally. | ||
| The Washington Generals have their nights, okay? | ||
| They get hot from three. | ||
| Can you imagine being there the night they win? | ||
| Oh my god, they just can't miss. | ||
| I now feel like they must have won some... | ||
| I mean, it'd be like if in medieval times the wrong knight accidentally took the other guy down and everybody just stopped and was like, ooh, uh-oh. | ||
| The villain wins in medieval times? | ||
| That would be a bummer. | ||
| This is a real bummer. | ||
| Actually, it wouldn't matter. | ||
| No, I would be happy anyway. | ||
| So similarly, though, to this, Trump backed 23 candidates for the Senate in 2020, and 18 of them won. | ||
| Only one of these people was running a challenge against an incumbent senator, and every other challenge candidate that Trump backed lost. | ||
| He's not good at picking people who aren't already in office, is what I'm saying. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Because the people who he picks who aren't already in office are insane lunatics who couldn't win an election. | ||
| I think the only senator who wasn't an incumbent that he chose who won in 2020 was Tommy Tuberville. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And that guy's insane! | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But, you know. | ||
| Hey, it happens sometimes. | ||
| Listen, if you coach a college football team and make sure that you get the most out of your child slaves, then you're gonna be in the government sooner or later. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex has some news about Austin Elementary Schools. | ||
| This is shocking if true. | ||
| And it's not true. | ||
| So it's not shocking. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| It's kind of shocking to hear him say, though, I guess. | ||
| The LBGTQPXYZ, LMNOPQRSXUT. | ||
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I mean, what about the LGBT students? | |
| You know what goes on in Austin at the middle schools and high schools, elementaries? | ||
| They tell them, you identify as LGBT, don't you? | ||
| Here's a lollipop. | ||
| When they do, they pat them on the head and let them have extra recess time. | ||
| And they're organized into after-school clubs and everything else, literally into a sexual orientation and a sexual lifestyle. | ||
| Imagine if they had the mud wrestling team for five-year-olds, or the oil wrestling, or hey, you're part of the wet t-shirt contest group, and you're training to wear wet t-shirts contest. | ||
| You'd say, that's pedophilia. | ||
| That's sexualization of children. | ||
| But if it's LGBT, then it's like, oh, absolutely. | ||
| Let's go confuse these kids that are highly influenceable with their leaders, with their teachers, and then let's induct them into this lifestyle. | ||
| I think that he's sounding a little confused. | ||
| No. | ||
| I like that it started with, like, this is happening in high schools, and then it's a lollipop and extra recess. | ||
| I mean, what is happening? | ||
| Do you know what they're doing in middle schools? | ||
| Do you know what they're doing? | ||
| They're giving people a lollipop and extra recess in between geometry classes. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, he's just making shit up in order to demonize the people he wants to demonize and push for the bigoted positions that he holds. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| As humans, we're never not going to go through a fucking... | ||
| Satanic panic or a witch hunt or something. | ||
| We've got to have two. | ||
| Yeah, we've had how many? | ||
| Yeah, well, two big ones in our life so far. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| We're going to have another one, and it's so predictable and boring, and then I'm going to have to look at people I know and be like, you're fucking predictable and boring. | ||
| This is brutal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| It is a little sad. | ||
| You should be ashamed of yourself if you fall for it again. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think someone like Alex would just make the argument that, like, I didn't fall for it. | ||
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It never went away. | |
| I was right. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| Now that it's back, you agree with me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, look, this is a, you know, he's talking more about the schools here, and he's like, this isn't, the big talking point, I guess, with all these right-wing dickholes is the... | ||
| It's grooming. | ||
| You know, the grooming rhetoric. | ||
| They learned a word, and now they're obsessed with it. | ||
| Yeah, the entire... | ||
| I mean, it's incredibly dangerous, and they're putting a lot of people in danger with this kind of rhetoric, and I think it's abhorrent, and I hate them for it. | ||
| Yeah, we should teach the right fewer words or more words. | ||
| Alex, much like he is not saying that the leak is the important part about the Supreme Court thing... | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not jumping on the grooming bandwagon. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Although he has already in the past. | ||
| He's been a big fan of it. | ||
| And although now he's just actually making it worse. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Yeah, 4,000% increase in the last decade in kids identifying as trans, but nobody is grooming the children. | ||
| They're not grooming them, they're forcing them the hell into it. | ||
| This is a cult of depopulation taking over. | ||
| And when you look at the cult, they all look like they've had their soul sucked out of them. | ||
| I don't care if they're black, white, what color they are. | ||
| They all look like hell. | ||
| We don't want to have our children anywhere near this. | ||
| And if you let your children anywhere near the public schools, you are insane. | ||
| That 4,000 number, the 4,000% number, that's dicey at best. | ||
| And Alex would be hard-pressed to back that up. | ||
| Past a 2018 story about something in the UK and some vague surveys. | ||
| That being said, there are increases to the population that identifies as trans as well as gay, lesbian, bisexual, and non-binary. | ||
| If Alex wants to say it's 4,000% as an increase over some unspecified amount of time, fine. | ||
| I'll stipulate that for the sake of argument. | ||
| My issue really comes in when he says that it has something to do with the schools or their influence because... | ||
| of the world. | ||
| If it had something to do with our public education system, you'd expect to see that phenomenon being more localized as opposed to, you know, fairly all over the place. | ||
| Based on that, you should maybe seek out another explanation for it. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
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I would suggest that a better explanation is that the number of actual LGBTQ folk... | |
| Hasn't really gone up all that much, but the general vibe of most of the population has become accepting enough that people can feel comfortable to be open about themselves. | ||
| That probably doesn't have full explanatory power, but it's way more likely than this bullshit that Alex is throwing around a bunch of nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, I think what's fun about Alex is that... | ||
| The more he talks, and the more the world gets worse, the more I think that his extreme characterizations of what the left wants are actually good ideas. | ||
| Like, maybe we should get rid of the idea of mother and father, and have children taught as a group of people. | ||
| Oh no, he's got you. | ||
| They're taught together by a cooperative of people who all care equally about these children. | ||
| Instead of, say, somebody being like, my kid is more important, so your trans kid should die, and I'm gonna... | ||
| Fuck over millions of people so your child dies. | ||
| All right, Purple Penguin. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Maybe Alex is right. | ||
| I mean, maybe that's what we've been wrong about the whole time. | ||
| Alex has been right about telling us what we should be doing to the right wing. | ||
| So his show is satire. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| It's teaching the left how much we're cowards. | ||
| Thank you, Alex. | ||
| Thanks, Alex! | ||
| You did it, buddy! | ||
| Now I am gonna get rid of mother and father. | ||
| Purple penguins. | ||
| So, this next clip I thought was pretty exciting because Alex hasn't read a story. | ||
| He's seen a headline and he's cold reading and he accidentally reports that someone was beaten with tuna fins. | ||
| Which I thought was really... | ||
| Wait, somebody with fins was beaten? | ||
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Someone used tuna fins to beat somebody with? | |
| I was like, oh, sweet. | ||
| That's a good story. | ||
| Baby torture taken hostage and battered with tuna fins after leaving son without legs. | ||
| Fellow inmates took him hostage and threatened to chop off his legs once they knew what he'd done. | ||
| Yeah, the inmates know what to do, but not the liberals. | ||
| Well, they'd have him there for drag queen. | ||
| Story time. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Alex loves that Constitution, man. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He sure loves the Eighth Amendment, the cruel and unusual punishment. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| He just loves prison justice, which is in the Constitution and really celebrated by our founding fathers. | ||
| Why would you have prisons if you didn't want the prisoners to mete out their own form of uncontrollable justice? | ||
| Right, and it's clearly something that Alex supports. | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| It's pretty gross. | ||
| So it doesn't really matter because the story he's talking about is from the UK, where a man named Tony Smith was beaten in jail. | ||
| They beat him with tuna cans. | ||
| Tuna tins. | ||
| Tins. | ||
| Tins. | ||
| There were tuna cans in socks. | ||
| But this wasn't a situation where they were attacking him because they knew he was there for beating his child. | ||
| It also happened in 2018. | ||
| Also, there have been some details here that Alex is missing. | ||
| The first thing is that these two men that beat Smith didn't begin the attack because of his crime. | ||
| They took him hostage in a cell attempting to force the jail to transfer them to another wing because they didn't want to be in this one because it was... | ||
| Not good. | ||
| It was the type of place where you would take somebody hostage to try and get out of it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There are some indications that in the process they learned of his crime and probably went harder on him because of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This was a prison beating of opportunity, not the jailhouse justice Alex is fantasizing about it being. | ||
| I mean, birds, stones, I get it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Also, it totally happened four years ago, and for some reason, Alex is reporting it as if it's a current relevant story. | |
| In reality, the only relevant news aspect of this is that there was a pretty long delay in sentencing the two men who beat Smith, and that just happened recently. | ||
| This has also led to a conversation about how Smith might be eligible for government compensation because the state has a duty to protect him while he's in their custody, so this may end up costing UK taxpayers even more. | ||
| Yes, that's... | ||
| More reasonable. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| As a justice system. | ||
| There's a lot of tangled threads here, but what's important is that Alex loves this story because it makes him feel good to imagine violence being enacted on people he doesn't like. | ||
| It's somewhat understandable to think that someone who abuses their child deserves whatever comes to them, but it strikes me as kind of sad when that's the beginning and ending of Alex's analysis. | ||
| It's really shallow and it's just kind of built out of anger feeling good to him. | ||
| Yeah, you know, there is a certain... | ||
| And I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| Like, if you want to build a society, especially one that functions, maybe you don't put people whose... | ||
| First and initial reaction is the only one they care about, and then forget about it later on. | ||
| So, like, for instance, if you're building a society, you're like, maybe we should protect people even if we incarcerate them, because perhaps one day we will be incarcerated. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| The justice system isn't perfect. | ||
| There's some people who are going to be innocent in there. | ||
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Totally. | |
| We need to protect them, because, again, perhaps any one of us could have this happen to us, instead of being like, that guy bad, kill! | ||
| Maybe that's not going to work. | ||
| Long term. | ||
| That's the constitutional Infowars way of dealing with it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex, you know, you got a million in Bitcoin. | ||
| I don't know if you got two million. | ||
| I don't know if you heard. | ||
| I believe I already got another million. | ||
| From the same guy. | ||
| Do you know how many millions of anything I've ever received? | ||
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Zero. | |
| None! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Alex feels the need to talk about this. | ||
| But also, the left is pretty bad. | ||
| Oh, the left is evil. | ||
| I wanted to before I forget. | ||
| This reminds listeners of something. | ||
| And the corporate media spends this all day. | ||
| We were given a $1 million, roughly, Bitcoin donation a week ago. | ||
| I came on air and said we just got a big donation. | ||
| So we've gone from being 40% behind to about 65%, 70% being covered. | ||
| When we get to 100% of what we need, we're now in the black. | ||
| And that's what I'm explaining as we're treading water. | ||
| And the media all spun that like it was some secret and it was evil. | ||
| You're not allowed to take Bitcoin. | ||
| You're not allowed to sell product. | ||
| You're not allowed to be on air. | ||
| Everything we do is evil, evil, evil when they're the ones that are saying they want to kill babies after they're born. | ||
| They're the ones promoting pedophilia. | ||
| They're the bad guys. | ||
| But everything we do is evil and terrible and even being masculine is bad. | ||
| And the American Psychological Association says that masculinity is evil. | ||
| It is mental illness. | ||
| No, that's mental illness. | ||
| Saying a woman can be a man, a man can be a woman, or saying a man can have a baby. | ||
| It's all a fraud, ladies and gentlemen, we know that. | ||
| You seem a little defensive about the million dollar bill. | ||
| I'm starting to think that maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| He's a little bit like, I might not have deserved this. | ||
| And I might not have wanted people to know about that because it's sketchy. | ||
| It is real bad that people know about how evil my financing is. | ||
| Well, I mean, certainly it has some issues when you present yourself as like, I rely on you. | ||
| A man of the people. | ||
| You out there with your $10 donations. | ||
| You know, same kind of disillusioning thing if you have like... | ||
| Someone who's running for office. | ||
| And it's like, I only take small donations. | ||
| And then you find out that they have taken a flood of... | ||
| Hey, Alex, quick question. | ||
| What? | ||
| If you got friends who can drop millions on you at a moment's notice, why am I buying your shit? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think he actually does wrestle with that a little bit on this episode. | ||
| He's like, I still need you to buy shit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's really more the point. | ||
| But yeah, he gives thanks also to this anonymous person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're in a critical situation. | ||
| So I want to thank that great donor for taking us from the red, where I didn't know what to do, to the black. | ||
| But I don't want to sink back down to the red. | ||
| So all the listeners understand, making straight donations at InfowarStore.com. | ||
| Right at the top there's a banner saying, make a donation. | ||
| $5, $50, $100. | ||
| Recurring. | ||
| Can cancel any time. | ||
| Or just do a one-time deal. | ||
| Support free speech. | ||
| Donate today. | ||
| The top of Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| We're selling out of all the giant inventory we have of t-shirts over the years. | ||
| Basically, this show is now settled into... | ||
| I mean, God... | ||
| That he couldn't... | ||
| was money to buy stuff to sell to his audience and a million dollars to pay off the sanctions that he couldn't... | ||
| Get away with kicking down the road. | ||
| That was something he had to pay. | ||
| He had to pay right away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think that he's got that, and he was able to pull this stunt with a bankruptcy to postpone the trial. | ||
| So now he's on borrowed time again, and there's not that immediacy of the court case that's going to be a real problem for him. | ||
| Now, that still exists somewhere down the line, but he's like... | ||
| Wiggled his way out, and he's got a little bit of breathing room again. | ||
| And I think that's the kind of feeling that I have from this. | ||
| I mean, it's disgusting. | ||
| Yeah, I'm starting to really think that if you've got a lot of money, you can really screw with the American justice system. | ||
| Listen, and I'm going to go all the way and say that this goes from the top down. | ||
| It certainly doesn't come the other way. | ||
| No, it sure doesn't. | ||
| You know, there's not a whole lot of people who are like, you know, just... | ||
| Everyday workers out there who are like... | ||
| Why can't I bribe a judge? | ||
| I'm furious. | ||
| Well, no, I mean, I think that, you know, just your work-a-day person, you know, out there just being like, I wish that rich people could get away with more. | ||
| I'm so sad. | ||
| You know, we demand it. | ||
| We put it on the ballot. | ||
| I am going to buy some brain force, otherwise this rich person will have to face consequences. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the Pope has come out. | ||
| Oh, that Pope, he's probably against the war. | ||
| Which is unusual for popes. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| But Alex is confused about a headline that he read. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| And so why is the pope now suddenly telling the truth? | ||
| Pope Francis says NATO may have provoked Russia invasion of Ukraine, hopes to meet Putin in Moscow. | ||
| Goes on to blame the weapons manufacturers and says that they are the ones that stand again. | ||
| They're endangering the world. | ||
| What happened to the pope suddenly? | ||
| Because almost everything he says is evil and wrong and ass backwards. | ||
| From just, say, what somebody like Pope John Paul II would say. | ||
| Yeah, he was so pro-war. | ||
| Everything I remember that guy said made perfect sense, and he fought communism and was a good guy, pro-life and pro-family. | ||
| What's going on with this guy? | ||
| Because you can't say, like, one's good and the other one's good when they're polar opposites. | ||
| I'm not a Catholic, but a lot of the Catholics are good people on average and have a long history in Christendom, and I... | ||
| Wanted to be a good, strong Christian institution. | ||
| But under this Pope, it has been the opposite of that, hasn't it? | ||
| I don't think that's debatable. | ||
| I know the Catholics are up in arms about it. | ||
| What is this statement about? | ||
| Pope Francis says NATO may have provoked Russian invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| Hopes to meet Putin in Moscow. | ||
| Pope Francis participated in an interview Monday with one of the largest Italian daily newspapers. | ||
| Where the Vatican head expressed his desire to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the near future. | ||
| I asked Cardinal Perloni, after 20 days of war, to send a message to Putin to say that I was willing to go to Moscow, the Pope said. | ||
| We have not yet received an answer, and we are still insisting, even if I fear that Putin cannot and does not want to have this meeting at the time, but how can this brutality not be stopped? | ||
| 25 years ago, we experienced the same thing in Rwanda. | ||
| He went to blame the weapons manufacturers and the fact that NATO overthrew the elected government in Ukraine eight years ago. | ||
| And you know the rest of the story. | ||
| And then started launching attacks on Russian-held areas. | ||
| And so he called it a provocation. | ||
| That is a big deal. | ||
| This is a fascinating example of a common feature on Alex's show. | ||
| He takes a story that has a kernel of truth, and then he just makes stuff up about it. | ||
| In this case, it is true that the Pope gave an interview where he suggested that it was possible that, quote, NATO barking at Russia's gate led to Putin invading Ukraine. | ||
| But he also said, quote, I have no way of telling whether his rage has been provoked, but I suspect it was maybe facilitated by the West's attitude. | ||
| This is an interesting statement, but it's also a far cry from what Alex is reporting. | ||
| The Pope also said, quote, the Ukrainians can't be blamed for having fought back in the Donbass, which implies they were fighting back against something. | ||
| He also said, quote, now the Russians have taken not just the Donbass region, but Crimea, Odessa, and the ports on the Black Sea, everything. | ||
| I have a bad feeling about it all. | ||
| I'll admit, I'm very pessimistic. | ||
| However, it's our duty to do all we can to stop the war. | ||
| In terms of blaming weapons manufacturers, here's what the Pope said. | ||
| Quote, It's fair to say that the arms sales are something that the Pope opposes and recognizes as a part of all wars, but Alex is really overselling his position to be like, This is all about weapons. | ||
| I mean, it is so much like, what in God's name do you think the fucking Pope is going to say about a war? | ||
| Not good. | ||
| What in God's name do you, what Pope is like, hey man, I gotta be honest. | ||
| I think slaughtering millions of people is great. | ||
| I love it! | ||
| I gotta break with tradition. | ||
| Like this war. | ||
| This war is pretty good. | ||
| This is a good one. | ||
| It's a good one. | ||
| It hasn't been... | ||
| It's a crusade. | ||
| Not for it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Not since the 1500s have we seen a war this good. | ||
| This is a dope war. | ||
| All that other stuff that Alex is saying is just making stuff up. | ||
| He just wants the Pope's statement to sound more like it validates his own narratives. | ||
| Alex is doing this because he knows most of his audience only needs superficial validation to feel like Alex has been proven right about something. | ||
| For example, they can just Google Pope and NATO and see headlines like, quote, Pope Francis blames NATO in the Wall Street Journal, and they'll assume that Alex is right about all the other stuff he said. | ||
| It's a trick he can pull because, you know, he's just riffing headlines and he's trained his audience just to do the same and pretend there's some sort of a depth to it. | ||
| That's all he's doing. | ||
| If anything Alex ever says ever means anything, then the Pope cannot possibly be making the statements Alex is pretending he is. | ||
| I believe he's a globalist. | ||
| It's not a big deal that he would be saying these things. | ||
| It would be a repudiation of Alex's entire worldview. | ||
| The Pope isn't someone who just changes their mind because shit got hot. | ||
| He's supposed to be an emissary of the devil who's weirdly obsessed with breaking up American militias. | ||
| The literal... | ||
| This isn't like, oh no, guys, oh no, we've gotta change our mind. | ||
| And let's... | ||
| It's not like the Pope is in league with the literal Christian devil. | ||
| If the literal Christian devil is real, then so is the Pope and his powers. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| He's infallible. | ||
| Yeah, that's a whole thing. | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| Yeah, people forget that the Pope has magic powers. | ||
| Steve never would have been able to arrest him. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| If your religion is real, then the Pope gets magic. | ||
| I don't understand how that's not a regular conversation. | ||
| Yeah, I forgot about that. | ||
| Everybody forgets the Pope has magic! | ||
| Because it kind of sounds dumb. | ||
| But not just the Pope, too. | ||
| Like, a lot of people can perform miracles. | ||
| Sure, transubstantiation is regular. | ||
| I mean, to become a saint, you have to have a couple miracles. | ||
| You don't have to be a Pope to be a saint. | ||
| Three recorded miracles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So they can do magic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Magic is... | ||
| Available to people who believe in bullshit. | ||
| It's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has a map of NATO countries. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he really whiffs this one. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And then here's the map that really, really matters right here. | ||
| Not an inch of NATO's present military jurisdiction will spread in an eastern direction. | ||
| Memorandum of conversation between Mikhail Gorbachev and James Baker in Moscow. | ||
| On February 9th, 1990. | ||
| And then George Herbert Walker Bush confirmed that in speeches and in policy statements. | ||
| But now what have they done since 1990? | ||
| In 1990, here is the map of NATO. | ||
| In red, for TV viewers, it's places like Turkey and Spain and France and Sweden. | ||
| But now it's expanded into more than a dozen Other countries. | ||
| Alex is lying about the agreement between Baker and Gorbachev. | ||
| Right, we talked about that one. | ||
| Yeah, that just had to do solely with NATO expansion into East Germany. | ||
| The question became entirely irrelevant as Germany reunified. | ||
| Also, Sweden isn't a part of NATO. | ||
| Alex is just looking at this map and he doesn't know where Sweden is and he thinks Norway is Sweden. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Well, Sweden and Finland are going to be joining NATO awful quick. | ||
| Well, that's actually something that I think is revealing of how little Alex knows about current modern... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Geopolitics. | ||
| Like, it's a big deal that Sweden is not part of NATO because of the conversations that they're having as prompted by Russia's aggression in Ukraine. | ||
| He has no handle on any of this. | ||
| If your argument is that NATO is the cause of all of this, why exactly are people, are non-NATO countries, reacting to this going like, we gotta get in NATO, otherwise we're gonna get invaded. | ||
| Yeah, it seems strange. | ||
| I think that there's little moments like that that it seems like a fuck-up or like a mistake, but it actually is revealing of an underlying ignorance. | ||
| And not caring to learn anymore about it. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Not caring. | ||
| Why would you learn? | ||
| There's headlines! | ||
| If you learn something, then you might have to change your mind. | ||
| And if that weren't a true statement that was rejected by so many people, it would be very funny. | ||
| That's prophetic, because we're going to get into something that touches directly on that here in a little bit. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| But first, Alex asked to narrate a meme. | ||
| Got some other really informative memes. | ||
| This one says, hit me up if you catch my drift. | ||
| And it shows a bunch of stick figures. | ||
| I'm simulcasting the radio, folks. | ||
| That's why I'm narrating. | ||
| You got like one, two, three, four, five, six stick figures. | ||
| And there's... | ||
| Six pieces of fruit. | ||
| And they say, yummy fruit. | ||
| One of them falls over and dies. | ||
| And the other says, correlation does not equal causation. | ||
| So they all eat the fruit and they all die. | ||
| And that's what we're witnessing here. | ||
| With the vaccines, that's still haven't proven causation. | ||
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It could just be a bad batch of fruit. | |
| All six of them could have been poisoned earlier. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| One thing about a battleground being the removal and murder of other people and their rights is that the news doesn't really hit as hard, so you can just narrate memes, you know? | ||
| No big deal! | ||
| I'm going to narrate memes. | ||
| Well, when you've got a couple million dollars coming in, no one has to die anymore. | ||
| No one has to die. | ||
| I'm going to narrate some memes. | ||
| Not only that, though. | ||
| First of all, there's one decision. | ||
| That is like, this meme is something I've got to cover on the show. | ||
| I've got to get this out there. | ||
| I've got to spend time on that. | ||
| People need it. | ||
| Second thing, he has to talk through it. | ||
| He has to explain the meme. | ||
| And then third thing, he has to explain that he's explaining the meme because he's on the radio. | ||
| Because he's on the radio. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| That's how you get a meme. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't, I mean... | ||
| It's like the more sad version of, like, radio theater is fine, because that's an art. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| But it's like if that was really bad. | ||
| You're taking something that's a different form of medium and putting it in the previous generation's medium. | ||
| You know, like, you're putting something visual into an audio medium. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's doing it so poorly. | ||
| It's bad radio improv that's all sight gags. | ||
| That they have to then explain the sight gag in the improv scene. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's so funny how you kicked your leg out above over your head in that moment where it was funny to do that. | ||
| You take the thing that makes the thing in any way useful and you remove it. | ||
| And then remove another layer of that. | ||
| What a dork. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| So we get back to... | ||
| Oh, not back to. | ||
| We actually just get to Alex taking some calls. | ||
| He gets a call from a farmer. | ||
| And Alex wants to... | ||
| This farmer is talking about how things are bad. | ||
| Things are going to be bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex wants to make this about the Ukraine situation and the fertilizer. | ||
| And so he pushes in that direction. | ||
| And then the farmer is like, there's something else. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| So again, you're saying you're involved in farming and you're saying people not planting because they don't have fertilizer. | ||
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Well, not planting and also the fact... | |
| We've gotten half of our annual rainfall within a week's period of time, and we just ain't going to get out in the field. | ||
| We're already two weeks behind the eight ball already in planting, and that's going to be another two weeks before people can even get in the field to plant their corn and their soybeans and their wheat crops up here. | ||
| Unbelievable, sir. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| I mean, we keep explaining this, but even young people on average, I'm not singling them out, but it's true. | ||
| Each generation gets more separated from the land, more separated from reality. | ||
| That's your point? | ||
| They've got statistics and numbers out where half of young people don't even know where meat comes from or where electricity comes from or the most common sense things. | ||
| They've done studies where 90 plus percent of... | ||
| College students can't name one of the amendments to the Bill of Rights. | ||
| But because I watch so much of Alex's show, I know that they don't do studies. | ||
| He's talking about a Mark Dice man on the street bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's not a study. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's talking to drunk people out on a boardwalk. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And editing it to make people look stupid. | ||
| So yeah, what happened there, that pause, and the reason that Alex goes off in a completely different direction is because what that guy's describing sounds a lot like a change in climate. | ||
| Climate change it? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like last year and the years before, here's the thing that's regular. | ||
| And now the climate is different. | ||
| We've had torrential rains that are really... | ||
| Even if we had fertilizer, we couldn't be planting anyway. | ||
| These are out of seasonal rains. | ||
| You would expect rains to not do this. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| So anyway, we've got to ramble about a Mark Dice video that we're pretending is a study. | ||
| Can you imagine if 90% couldn't name an amendment? | ||
| Throw me out to a fucking... | ||
| Goddamn Wolf Blitzer being like, they've done studies and now we're gonna go see these and go to a jaywalking sketch from 20 years ago. | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| No, I mean, that's the level of content that you get here. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely! | ||
| It's the tip of the spear. | ||
| It's important stuff. | ||
| Tip of the spear. | ||
| Yeah, he's real good. | ||
| Gotta get on it. | ||
| So we get to talking about the fires at food plants. | ||
| You got to watch out. | ||
| We talked about that a little bit on a recent episode. | ||
| But a caller wants to say, hey. | ||
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I just wanted to bring up one thing, and I'll let you run with this. | |
| I know Tucker and yourself have talked about this a little bit, but no one is touching on the attack on the industrial food supply facilities. | ||
| It's just unbelievable how this is just being overlooked. | ||
| And I can't fathom what's going on here. | ||
| I'm going to go to the next one. | ||
| Well, sir, since we covered that a few weeks ago, more plants have burned down each day. | ||
| So, by the law of statistics that's been looked into by statisticians, this is thousands of times the number of plants that burn a year already, and we're not even halfway through the year. | ||
| Make up a name, I'll believe you. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| It's crazy, and this is war. | ||
| Thousands of times the normal amount. | ||
| So, like, if the normal was one, there's been a thousand? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Thousands of times the normal amount. | ||
| So Alex is just completely making up everything he said there. | ||
| I somewhat suspect that he'd even forgotten that this was a conspiracy he's supposed to be worried about. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That was a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that was a while back. | ||
| So Fact Check reached out to the National Fire Protection Association to get some insight into the recent social media posts and Tucker Carlson segments about this conspiracy, and what do you know? | ||
| It's a load of shit. | ||
| The NFPA gets their data from the National Fire Incident Reporting System, and I want you to guess how many manufacturing and processing plant fires there are in an average year. | ||
| 112. | ||
| 5,308. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| 961 of them are strictly agricultural plants. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Between January and April 2022, there were 20 fires reported at U.S. food processing facilities, which, if anything, is actually in the normal to low side of where they would be in a normal year. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, putting that math together, that sounds like a good week, man. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know if it peaks at certain times of year. | ||
| I imagine late summer. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| So I don't know if it seems like this. | ||
| From everything, I can tell this is very much normal or low. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The spokesperson for the NFPA summed it up, I think, pretty well. | ||
| Quote, The recent inquiries around these fires appears to be a case of people suddenly paying attention to them and being surprised about how often they do occur. | ||
| But NFPA does not see anything out of the ordinary in these numbers. | ||
| I wish that that were more the case for all of the huger systemic problems that we face, that people are just blissfully unaware. | ||
| Like, oh, there's no public transportation. | ||
| What? | ||
| This is a serious problem! | ||
| Now! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| People like Alex and Tucker didn't know that these sort of fires were so common, so when they saw dumb memes about this fire or that fire, they assumed that it must be so much more than a normal year. | ||
| Because that's fun for them. | ||
| It's exciting to think that there's some grand nefarious plot that you're covering and saving the food supply. | ||
| That excites the audience and releases those fun endorphins you get when you're roleplaying a prophet detective. | ||
| Plus, the alternative sucks. | ||
| If you look into this and you realize that it's totally normal that there be this many fires at food facilities, what can you do? | ||
| You don't get to accuse vague groups of enemies of planning to kill you. | ||
| You just kind of have two options. | ||
| You can either shrug and say that's just how things are, or you can be a total dork and advocate for stronger fire safety regulations at these facilities. | ||
| It's not exciting to an audience, and it doesn't give you the rush of pretending you're some kind of bold truth teller. | ||
| This large systemic problem is going to take years to face a... | ||
| Concerted effort in the front of boredom to actually make progress on. | ||
| We have to focus and nobody can get mad about things along the way. | ||
| We just have to do it, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's a disaster. | ||
| And so Alex lies. | ||
| He makes up shit about statisticians and probabilities because he wants to give the appearance of having looked into stuff, but he doesn't want to have to reach that unsatisfying conclusion he would reach if he actually did. | ||
| It's top statisticians from stat news. | ||
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Prestigious. | |
| For the top statisticians. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I can't argue with prestigiousness. | ||
| It is so weird. | ||
| I mean, I didn't know. | ||
| It bums me out to learn something from their bullshit and have them sensationalize it, and then I've learned more about it, and I'm like, how have I let this go on for so long? | ||
| Probably because I'm reading about cops being great or whatever, as the news says. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| But honestly, if you think about the number of facilities there actually are in the United States, 5,300 isn't that... | ||
| It's not that high of a percentage of them. | ||
| And it's not they're all burning down all the way. | ||
| It's like a contained fire. | ||
| They've got this amount of damage. | ||
| There's sometimes structural damage, sometimes not. | ||
| And, you know, I think it is a little bit shocking just to see numbers and to be like, well, that's not something that... | ||
| Touches my life all that often. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I allowed it to continue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's something that the alternative to having that response is, shit, this will freak people out. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And it's abusive. | ||
| It's really abusive. | ||
| You can't just have this problem and be like, okay. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Listen, let's get above the left-right paradigm. | ||
| That's too many fires. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about we can agree that's too many? | ||
| I don't know what the correct amount of fires is. | ||
| Yeah, the only reason I push back a little bit from that or I reel back a little is because I am not 100% sure why all these fires are happening. | ||
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Totally. | |
| So I don't know what regulations could help. | ||
| So that's the only reason why I'm like, maybe... | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Maybe there isn't a better way to do this. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That's why this isn't left-right, man. | ||
| I don't even know what's going on. | ||
| I'm just looking at the number of fires, and I'm saying, let's make that number lower. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Let's team up. | ||
| This is why we've got the National Fire Protection Association. | ||
| They're thinking about these things. | ||
| See, this is what I'm saying! | ||
| It's almost great that we have these things. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Alex takes another call. | ||
| This guy's not happy with him. | ||
| Oh, why not? | ||
| Too many fires? | ||
| No. | ||
| He thinks that Alex is holding on to Trump. | ||
| And he shouldn't. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Get rid of him. | |
| I think you're giving Trump a pass right now. | ||
| And I think that you're still holding on to the idea that Trump was organic and that Trump is real. | ||
| And I think that the system would never allow that because the system would never jeopardize what's at stake, the control of the power. | ||
| They would never let someone organic come in and jeopardize that. | ||
| And you keep holding on to this idea that they are. | ||
| And you keep saying this thing that Obama's running things. | ||
| Obama, again, there would never just be one guy running things. | ||
| It's far worse than Obama is running things. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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And I get what you're saying there, but you're still directing people into the left-right paradigm, and you're still giving this system a chance when it doesn't have one. | |
| Well, listen, let's be fair about this. | ||
| I'm the guy that coined the term left-right paradigms. | ||
| You know that? | ||
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Yeah, I know. | |
| You're the man, Alex. | ||
| Believe me, I'm not... | ||
| No, no, I'm not trying to... | ||
| But then under Trump, whether he's real or not, the populist movement... | ||
| And what happened there scared the hell out of the globalists. | ||
| And Bolsonaro, I believe, is real. | ||
| We know Boris Johnson wasn't. | ||
| Okay, we got a checklist of real and fake. | ||
| That's such a load of shit. | ||
| That's just Alex trying to wiggle out of what this caller is saying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex wasn't just interested in Trump because of some movement that coalesced around him. | ||
| Alex was crying on air about how he was willing to die for Trump. | ||
| He's our God King appointed by God for this moment to provide us with a Nineveh-like reprieve. | ||
| Yeah, he can get the fuck out of here with these attempts. | ||
| He wants to rewrite his past to look less embarrassing now. | ||
| He's an embarrassment. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Also, he didn't invent the term left-right paradigm. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Dan, did you know I invented shoes? | ||
| I did know that, actually. | ||
| You told me incessantly. | ||
| I mean, it's a pretty big detail to know about something. | ||
| I think it makes sense that Alex thinks that he made that up, but I don't even think he understands the concept. | ||
| Absolutely does not. | ||
| He thinks that being above the left-right paradigm just means being the most right. | ||
| The most right! | ||
| Yeah, being crazy, crazy right. | ||
| But look, even if you think that Trump is fake, Alex tells the scholar, you gotta recognize that some people aren't. | ||
| Like Alex. | ||
| But I'm explaining that the Trump movement and that galvanizing force has really scared the New World Order. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| So I'm not giving Trump a pass to any level. | ||
| And I can tell you, I'm organic. | ||
| The people are organic. | ||
| I know I'm real. | ||
| I know I'm not getting any secret help from the New World Order. | ||
| One million dollars. | ||
| People who care about freedom. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I know that we have power. | ||
| The people have power. | ||
| It's not just folks in the establishment. | ||
| That's why they fear us, brother. | ||
| Yeah, your response is entirely right. | ||
| Like, if Alex wants to keep up this appearance, then he's going to need to publicly reveal who the person was who gave him $2 million in crypto. | ||
| His whole thing is all this, like, I'm supported by the people, man. | ||
| No one's secretly paying me off. | ||
| And at the same time, he's taking in millions of dollars from some secret donor in digital money? | ||
| It's all out of sync, and if anyone that Alex criticizes did the same thing, it would be presented as dead-to-rights proof that they're getting paid by Klaus Schwab to help kill everyone. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Alex needs to play by his own rules. | ||
| It's fine, I think, for him to take in a couple million dollars from a crypto donor, but his audience deserves to know who that person is, because they may have some interests or some connections that would be relevant for the audience to be aware of. | ||
| If it's someone like Max Keiser, then it obviously comes with the strings of needing Alex to promote crypto to his audience, as he and Max have discussed in the past. | ||
| If it's someone like Peter Thiel, then that opens up a thousand more questions that the audience should be asking. | ||
| If it's an online neo-Nazi or white nationalist-type front, then that speaks volumes. | ||
| And if it's just a rich benefactor who believes in the info war but weirdly didn't step in till now... | ||
| Then that's benign, but it still should be known. | ||
| Unless that donor's identity is known, it's hard not to make assumptions about who it might be and what agenda might come along with that donation. | ||
| I'd just call on Alex to reveal who this donor was, because otherwise, I don't understand how your audience could ever trust you. | ||
| Here's the only way that he would talk about us, is if we got anywhere from.0001 to any number of Bitcoin from anyone. | ||
| He'd be like, ah, see? | ||
| Look at these secretive donors giving Bitcoin and shit. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Maybe, but I still don't think he would. | ||
| That's such bullshit. | ||
| Such bullshit. | ||
| I'm furious. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| I mean, look, here's the thing. | ||
| I think that through the people who were looking into these things over at the SPLC and what have you, I think that there's a decent chance that this might be a mystery that gets solved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if I were Alex, I would get out in front of him. | ||
| If it's not a big deal, then it's not a big deal. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And the person should be lauded as a hero of the info war. | |
| Of course. | ||
| If it is somebody that it would be suspicious that you're taking $2 million in Bitcoin from. | ||
| It's going to come out. | ||
| And maybe you should come up with a defense for that in advance and get ahead of the thing and just reveal who this is. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if he's read the news about Bitcoin lately, but it does feel like if you want to know where a wallet is from, you can find that information pretty quickly. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I don't know how either. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Some people do, and they seem very good at it. | ||
| People are good at tech. | ||
| They get a lot of money. | ||
| So Alex wants to know why this caller is so interested in Trump, and it gets a little angry. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why are you upset about Trump right now? | ||
| Why are you trying to hammer him? | ||
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Because I believe that the key thing, that the system is still holding on to their weapon, to their main weapon, which is Trump. | |
| And I was at the Capitol. | ||
| And I was there. | ||
| I got in a fight and I was ready to go. | ||
| I would have done it any day. | ||
| And Trump had the chance. | ||
| He had us there. | ||
| He had 1776 in his hands and he gave us the old site. | ||
| And he turned his back, and he's a chump! | ||
| I appreciate your call, sir. | ||
| I disagree with you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I bet Alex doesn't like hearing somebody say what he should say. | ||
| Yeah, I was kind of shocked by that, but I was like, it's kind of refreshing. | ||
| Yeah, that's what you should say. | ||
| It's a logical... | ||
| No, you should feel betrayed by the guy who betrayed you. | ||
| It seems like it's not a complex place to get to. | ||
| I was betrayed. | ||
| I feel that way. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that guy's anger seems a lot less performed than Alex's. | ||
| Oh, no, he's pissed, and I agree with him. | ||
| He got tricked into believing bullshit, and then he got betrayed. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex disagrees because he thinks it's a bad strategy. | ||
| And so after he's hung up on the guy, he... | ||
| I don't think that's good strategy. | ||
| But we can agree to disagree. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| I understand you're pissed off. | ||
| I understand you have passion. | ||
| I respect that passion. | ||
| Let's go to Sky in Washington. | ||
| Sky, welcome. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hello, sir. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I just want to say I really respect and I want to echo everything all your previous callers said today, except that last caller. | ||
| But it's okay to have disagreements, and I respect that. | ||
| Oh, and is that you? | ||
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I think you answered. | |
| He's not. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| So Alex has to agree to disagree with this guy because he can't actually be for him and he can't be against him. | ||
| If Alex agrees with that caller, then his actions on January 6th and everyday sense make no sense. | ||
| Why would Alex have been... | ||
| Trying to calm the crowd if he agreed with this caller. | ||
| Why would he claim that Antifa was behind all of it? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Simultaneously, he can't disagree with him because he knows that a whole lot of his audience feels the same way that that caller does. | ||
| This caller is the true believer that's being wound up by the con artist like Alex. | ||
| And to provoke direct conflict or outright condemn this guy's perspectives, even if you pretend to disagree, it's too dangerous. | ||
| Literally, it is literally too dangerous. | ||
| That guy was ready to... | ||
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To overthrow the country, as he just said! | |
| Alex can't actually have a conversation with this guy and disagree with him coherently. | ||
| It would have been a bad strategy to take the White House. | ||
| What strategy is Alex pursuing that's so much better? | ||
| Having violent mood swings on air, covering meaningless headlines on stories he hasn't read, and waiting for some mystery super rich guy to give him millions to temporarily bail him out of trouble while he waits for the Sandy Hook cases to get a new court date? | ||
| Or is the strategy the midterms? | ||
| This just seems nuts. | ||
| What is the better strategy? | ||
| He is right. | ||
| It is bad strategy to admit that you tried to overthrow the fucking capital. | ||
| Here's what's good strategy. | ||
| Lie as much as you can. | ||
| Obfuscate as much as you can. | ||
| Put blame on as many people as you can until people forget about it as long as possible and then you get your second shot at overthrowing the country. | ||
| Alex's strategy is the same as Tucker Carlson. | ||
| It's the same as fucking Mitch McConnell's strategy. | ||
| Oh, this is terrible. | ||
| It was probably somebody else's fault. | ||
| And if it was, don't investigate it. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| We'll never think about it again. | ||
| In three years, this is definitely not going to happen again. | ||
| Promise. | ||
| Guarantee it. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, but still, it's bad strategy for Alex's business. | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| That's what I'm getting at. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Alex can't agree with the guy because arguing on this point exposes his ass, so he gets him off the line and then agrees to disagree, respecting their differing viewpoints. | ||
| Keep in mind all the other folk that he refuses to agree to disagree with, but this guy, who's mad that Trump didn't lead a charge into the White House to overthrow the country... | ||
| That deserves a respectful position and response. | ||
| Also, notice that Alex isn't against literally taking the country over because that would be a bad thing to do. | ||
| It's just bad strategy. | ||
| The goal isn't bad, and the end result isn't bad. | ||
| He just doesn't think that what the caller wanted would have brought about that end result. | ||
| While we're on the subject of January 6th stuff, though, I just wanted to bring up something that Alex probably won't touch. | ||
| William Todd Wilson, the Oathkeeper who pled guilty, just had a statement of offense released, and it looks pretty bad for Alex's buddy, Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
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A lot of this stuff is providing more insight into things that we've already known, but there's some added stuff in here, too. | |
| For instance, at about 5 p.m. | ||
| on January 6th, Stuart was back at his hotel where this happened. | ||
| Rhodes then called an individual over speakerphone. | ||
| Wilson heard, Rhodes repeatedly implore the individual to tell President Trump to call upon groups like the Oath Keepers to forcibly oppose the transfer of power. | ||
| This individual denied Rhodes' request to speak directly with President Trump. | ||
| After the call ended, Rhodes stated to the group, I just want to fight. | ||
| It's really curious who that individual might be. | ||
| Someone who's acquainted with Trump and Stewart and is on good enough terms with both of them for Stewart to feel comfortable making this request and for Stewart to assume they could get Trump in on the loop. | ||
| I don't assume that's a giant group of people. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm not saying it is Roger or Alex, but, like, the list... | ||
| Who else would it be? | ||
| I mean, no, it could be... | ||
| I don't think it is specifically them, but, like, I don't know who in Trump's orbit would be in direct contact with Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| That would pick up the phone. | ||
| On January 6th at 5? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I don't know who that would be. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Nobody in Trump's actual government circle is picking up the fucking phone. | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Look, I don't exclude any possibilities at this point, but it seems unlikely. | ||
| Mark Meadows did not give all of his information out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Ali Alexander? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| That's a question that I'm very curious about what the answer is, and Alex probably, I don't know, I'd be worried. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we get another call, and remember how Alex gave it up to the legends on that Mopey goodbye episode? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He forgot somebody. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
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But in any case, I wanted to bring up last week when you were going down memory lane, and I thought Jim Tucker should have been mentioned. | |
| Just because, you know, he was super evident in bringing the Bilderberg to the forefront. | ||
| And, I don't know, I just thought it would be great to... | ||
| You know, mention him as well. | ||
| You were mentioning all the great people that were on your show. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, Jim Tucker was just amazing. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Also a Nazi. | ||
| I do like two things about this. | ||
| One, the idea that, like, hey, you forgot Jim Tucker. | ||
| I forgot a lot of people. | ||
| But then the second thing, too, is that she thinks that that was a walking down memory lane. | ||
| That's how she experienced that. | ||
| That was not walking down memory lane. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That was an episode of This Is Your Life. | ||
| You know? | ||
| This is my life. | ||
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Alex. | |
| Alex. | ||
| Do you recognize that voice? | ||
| But no one's doing it for him because no one gives a shit. | ||
| I am amazed. | ||
| At the thought process that it takes to get to calling Alex Jones days after the fact about something that he does not remember or care about. | ||
| It was a lashing out. | ||
| And that is not even... | ||
| I mean, why? | ||
| Why do you feel like Jim Tucker needs to be on that list? | ||
| Maybe this is Jim's widow? | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I don't know, because he's dead. | ||
| It might be his daughter. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| That's the only thing that would make sense. | ||
| Somebody's out there like... | ||
| Say Jim. | ||
| Say Jim. | ||
| He didn't say Jim! | ||
| Gotta give it up to Jim. | ||
| I gotta give him. | ||
| I'm gonna have to call him. | ||
| And then they called. | ||
| They'd have to have called regularly. | ||
| Yeah, she does say that she's a very long-term... | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And also, she did say that she was at Bilderberg with Alex protesting. | ||
| That means she might be Jim Tucker. | ||
| She might be Jim Tucker. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| Alex has a guest for most of the third hour. | ||
| I'm going to give you a guess. | ||
| A clue. | ||
| No, I'm going to give you a clue. | ||
| Santilli Lace, what a pretty Pete. | ||
| It's Pete Santilli. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I don't care about this guy. | ||
| He's a radio host. | ||
| We've talked about him before. | ||
| He's a shithead. | ||
| He is, but he also hates Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| The two of them hate each other. | ||
| So Alex is still having him on and ignoring news that implicates Stuart in trying to overthrow the government. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So anyway, it's about a UN pandemic treaty and some shit. | ||
| Pete Santelli, investigative and journalist who's been through the fire, is our guest. | ||
| I have spent... | ||
| Months reading these documents, researching what's happening with the UN. | ||
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Totally. | |
| They have a meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, that's going to be held the 22nd to the 28th. | ||
| So much reading. | ||
| They say the documents are secret, but their memorandums say the UN will control pandemic responses, but also other medical policy. | ||
| Just like UNESCO controls education policy and the rest of it. | ||
| We're under UN control. | ||
| The corporation's funded control of the UN. | ||
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Then our government signed trees with it and go under its control. | |
| And we need to raise the alarm and get Congress ahead of this and others. | ||
| Because Biden plans to implement all of this. | ||
| We have to make this the central issue. | ||
| Pete, you got cut off. | ||
| Please continue. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| I'm going to lay this out as follows. | ||
| Oh, this is their takeover plan. | ||
| This is their main attack. | ||
| I thought we couldn't stop any of this. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Anyway, this meeting that Alex is talking about is the 75th annual World Health Assembly run by the World Health Organization. | ||
| It doesn't seem like this treaty is definitely going to be dealt with there, although there is a plan for this to be... | ||
| There's a treaty that the EU is working on for international pandemic responses. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And if everything goes according to plan, then everyone agrees with the negotiations, which seems incredibly ambitious. | ||
| It might be adopted sometime in 2024. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And part of their plan is delivering a progress report at next year's, the 76th annual World Health... | ||
| Great. | ||
| So anyway, there's a big conspiracy about this, and Jim Fetzer's been spreading stuff about it since last month. | ||
| Hey, great. | ||
| Good news. | ||
| Looks like Alex might be back on his bullshit. | ||
| Good news. | ||
| So anyway, international bodies are talking about how they can collaborate in case there's another pandemic. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| It's just boring. | ||
| It's just a boring conference for boring people. | ||
| But everything is their main attack. | ||
| I've noticed that. | ||
| I mean, how many main attacks are we on here? | ||
| So many. | ||
| What is their main attack? | ||
| If it's this meeting, how is it not the other things that he said is their main attack? | ||
| Because those things didn't happen. | ||
| And he didn't say those things and you can't prove it. | ||
| Yes, I can. | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
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Yes, I can. | |
| I have the clips. | ||
| You can't prove shit. | ||
| We've released this. | ||
| We've released episodes. | ||
| I can go back. | ||
| I'll have to get rid of the archives. | ||
| So, we have one last clip here, and their interview is really boring, but when they come back into the last segment, Alex has a little bit of what I would describe as sort of a mini fake outburst, and then this happens. | ||
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Music Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to be very, very clear right now with all of you. | |
| People say, Jones, don't you feel empowered that everything you talked about came true? | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| There is nothing more frustrating than reading globalist documents and watching clips of their speeches for 30 years on Air 28 and knowing they're in power and knowing they're doing this and sitting here and having to debate whether or not they even exist. | ||
| And to know that they made the weapon that killed members of my family and almost killed my dad. | ||
| You almost killed your dad. | ||
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And to know they're going to come back and do it even worse. | |
| And we have the power to stop them! | ||
| And now we're literally going back to 1776, but not the British winning, but the New World Order winning. | ||
| What? | ||
| And all the hell and the lockdowns and the starvation that comes with it. | ||
| We have to stop this, folks. | ||
| It's all right there. | ||
| What is? | ||
| Pete Santilli, I'm gonna let you host the rest of the segment. | ||
| I'm gonna shut up for ten minutes, you got the floor, go ahead. | ||
| So he just has Pete host the rest of the show. | ||
| Fake, emotional... | ||
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Oh my god, the stuff, and all the things, and oh, there's so much! | |
| And then my dad, and I mean, it was me, but I mean, I can't deal with that. | ||
| Anyways, can you do my job? | ||
| Also, like, again... | ||
| The plan's unstoppable now. | ||
| You can't stop it. | ||
| Stop giving people fake hope that they can stop something just because you feel better because you have a couple million dollars. | ||
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| The plan's unstoppable now. | ||
| You said that concretely, definitively. | ||
| Dick. | ||
| I mean, you're trying to stop 90% of the people from dying, so only 50% can die, right? | ||
| Look, here's the thing. | ||
| You can't have that good of an attitude if only 50% are gonna die. | ||
| Let me interpret this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex is so hungry that he can't wait ten more minutes to get off air. | ||
| I mean, he's so hungry. | ||
| I have done better acting getting out of a fucking fryer job. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| So this is weird, because this episode wasn't all about the Roe vs. | ||
| Wade thing. | ||
| It wasn't as much even about that as you might expect. | ||
| Certainly, there's some conversation about it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Some of it's dumb. | ||
| Some of it's what you'd expect. | ||
| Some of it's a little bit surprising. | ||
|
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Naturally. | |
| But it just feels like a normal-ass Alex show in the midst of huge news. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And a week of untethered emotional bullshit from him. | ||
| So yeah, maybe he's just found a state of normalcy within the chaos. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I don't know what it feels like to suddenly get two million dollars, but I imagine that would change your kind of outlook. | ||
| The only way I can contextualize it is in little mind gifs of cartoon characters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like going... | ||
| That kind of thing? | ||
| That's the sound I hear. | ||
| The problem with Bitcoin is you cannot put it into a burlap sack with a dollar sign drawn on it. | ||
| That is the biggest issue here. | ||
| You can't jump into it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That is a huge problem. | ||
| You can't bite it. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it should have happened. | ||
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When he takes a bite out, he's like, oh, that's a real Bitcoin right there. | |
| This Bitcoin's full of chocolate. | ||
| Oh well, looks like we have a job for a bit longer. | ||
| I mean, it's easier to handle bullshit, you know, after what we do. | ||
| But really, when you stop and you're like, wait, somebody just gave him two million dollars? | ||
| Just somebody. | ||
| Just two million, just gave it to him. | ||
| Just two million. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Just two million dollars. | ||
| I mean, that really heavily implies that they have way more than that. | ||
| Way more than two million dollars! | ||
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Yes. | |
| That wasn't somebody's last two million dollars. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So yeah, I think that story's unfolding, and we'll see what happens on that front. | ||
| Hackers better hack something. | ||
| We live in a future where I'm just like, just type in something. | ||
| Make it not happen! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I know what you mean. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| So, we'll be back and we'll check in on that, but for now, like, I don't know. | ||
| The world sucks. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| Help each other. | ||
| We'll do our best. | ||
| We have some thoughts and maybe they'll be a little bit more solid in the coming days. | ||
|
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You know, I'm just gonna start stockpiling water. | |
| Look, we have a new food sponsor. | ||
| No, that is not the case. | ||
| Bakwafina, but the actress. | ||
| Look, we do have a food sponsor, and it's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com, that's our word. | ||
| I didn't know how to thread that needle. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight.com, and I go to Ben Jordan. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I hope you all have a happy, dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
|
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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