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March 7, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#656: March 5, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to follow Alex's awful coverage of the invasion of Ukraine.  In this installment, Alex names his successor, declares that he's traveled beyond God's consciousness, and admits to framing a meme. Citations

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alex jones
28:23
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dan friesen
01:16:07
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jordan holmes
25:16
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george soros
00:35
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What was your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is that we got a little Zip package in the mail.
And it was a big old box of candy from Lee.
jordan holmes
And I don't see it, so it was a really enjoyable box.
dan friesen
No, no, there's still a fair amount of it left.
I've eaten a bit.
But that leads me to have to say, stop it!
jordan holmes
But I appreciate it.
But I appreciate it.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
I'm going to eat so much candy.
Oh, my God.
It's great.
There's some Hobnobs and Willy Wheels.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
They're fanciful-ass names these British candies have.
jordan holmes
Goddamn candies.
dan friesen
I do love the Hobnob, though.
The oat.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
British candies are better than ours, man.
dan friesen
So I should say that the candies are for me, and then there's some weird pickles and Marmite that's for you.
jordan holmes
Well, that's very nice.
I love Marmite.
dan friesen
Very specifically, there's no note that says that, but I've decided that's the intention.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Oh, you're also supposed to get the raisins.
The raisins ones.
jordan holmes
Because you don't like those.
Somebody wouldn't send...
Us raisins knowing that you don't like them unless they specifically wanted me to have them.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
You gotta consider intent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I understand.
dan friesen
So what about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is I went out last night with my partner and her teacher friends to a bar.
Worst place I've ever been to in my life.
It was awful.
It was like a giant frat tailgate party on the roof.
I'm not going to name the place, but it's awful.
And it was just...
It was so great.
For one reason only.
dan friesen
Giving a vague Yelp review here.
jordan holmes
No, for one reason only.
The teachers are all struggling with their principal at school.
The school's name, I don't want to give it.
However, there was a giant...
Cut out of a football player from the Bears, number 34. And just so appropriately, the wind knocked it over onto one of the teachers' heads as just a metaphor for how they're doing at school.
unidentified
And it's just fantastic.
dan friesen
Was this football player one who is known to tackle people?
jordan holmes
He was not known to tackle people.
dan friesen
Okay, so it's actually out of character for the standee.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Well, that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It was emblematic and appropriate.
dan friesen
Awesome.
I'm glad you had a good time out last night because I didn't.
Oh, I'm sorry, Dan.
jordan holmes
I was in.
I know.
dan friesen
So here's the deal.
We have an episode to go over and it's Alex's Saturday emergency broadcast from March 5th.
Right.
And yeah, that's why I'm complaining because you were out having a good time with the teachers.
jordan holmes
I was out having a good time with the teachers.
dan friesen
And Alex released this in the evening of last night and so flipping it around in order for us to get it out.
Has been a challenge.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
It sucked.
And, you know, there's no real other option because Alex was on a breakie.
He was out of studio until Friday and...
So here we are, and I'm mad about it.
jordan holmes
Is the special report in studio, or is it from the woods?
dan friesen
It's in studio.
Spiritually, his heart may still be in the woods, but he wasn't actually in the woods.
He reveals he was in Florida.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He went to Florida.
alex jones
Oh, boo.
dan friesen
Probably having high-level meetings with DeSantis.
jordan holmes
You would assume so.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there's a lot of bullshit going on here, and I'm not saying that in the big picture my patience has worn out.
But my patience wears out a little bit on the way through this episode, I will say.
jordan holmes
We take a journey.
dan friesen
I'm sick of his bullshit.
It's two and a half hours long, this special report, and maybe at an hour twenty.
I was ready to send him to the moon.
So we'll get to business on this, Jordan, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea!
dan friesen
So first, waking up my partner with Alex Jones saying I love you is going to ruin my relationship.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, you were then a wallacy ponk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, what's next?
We kiss vaccinated goblins, boosted goblins.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Thanks, too.
I came for the shrieks and stayed for the freaks.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we have a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to our dear Lord, Lord Satan.
Satan!
Satan!
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little break now.
A little bricky for me, and then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken off the air!
unidentified
Fuck you!
alex jones
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not.
alex jones
He's not?
dan friesen
Here's part of the reason.
I was saying I was like, you know, lose my patience.
I'm frustrated.
I don't tend to have a history of watching Alex's Saturday special reports that he puts out periodically.
They're long, and typically he's interviewing people I'm not really all that interested in, and so I usually give them a pass.
Listening to this made me realize a couple things.
One, Alex needs commercial breaks.
Because without them, this gets unbearable.
Even for me, just him talking without music coming in and him singing over you belong to the city or whatever.
Without that, this is a struggle.
Like a two-hour lecture that Alex is giving.
jordan holmes
No, that's no good.
dan friesen
Essentially uninterrupted except by periodic, like, hey, you know what?
I got iodine.
Like, it's rough.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
It is...
And it's really hard, too, because what he's doing is trying to weave from topic to topic.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
It's disorienting and stupid.
jordan holmes
I mean, he needs breaks to head towards.
Without the momentum downslope towards the break, the whole thing is just shit.
dan friesen
My guy needs off-ramps.
jordan holmes
He needs off-ramps!
dan friesen
Because half of the show is leading towards the off-ramps.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's building towards the point where he can do a plug and then go to commercial.
jordan holmes
Right!
It's like a semi without the ability to drive anymore, but it's going downhill, so as long as you can, you know, use the brakes right, you can keep moving.
dan friesen
Right, and there's an element of his show that does involve, like, sort of dramatic tension, and that is based on the timing of the brakes.
We have to get to this.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
We gotta go to brake, and then...
It conceivably will have a new thought that begins on the other side of the break.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or we'll continue this, but we'll have gotten to a stopping point.
Without the breaks, holy shit.
It's just...
You get lost, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You feel high.
If the Oscars didn't have the music to play people off, you'd be fucked watching it.
dan friesen
It'd be long.
Yeah.
Some people would abuse the privilege.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
So we start off at the beginning of this here report.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex is naturally talking about some Russia-Ukraine news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he's got some really, really accurate, up-to-date news.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's good.
alex jones
Putin has warned that any no-fly zone in any country entering militarily will be counted as an act of war, and that the exact second, the very second that...
Any nation joins in with Ukraine in attacking Russian forces that Russia will be at war with that country.
Germany has responded and said that Ukraine's NATO membership will not take place, says the German Chancellor.
That's Schultz.
That's something that Putin was asking for before he launched this invasion.
dan friesen
So, on the one hand, this is kind of a meaningless piece of news that Alex is covering, but if you consider the point of what he's saying, you can kind of deduce a tone that will be verified as we go along.
When I say this is meaningless, it's because these aren't news items, and they're not unexpected.
Of course, Putin would say that putting in a no-fly zone over Ukraine would be considered by him to be an act of war, and he would naturally threaten to be at war with any country that decides to put one in place.
That's not a novel position, and it's not news, really.
jordan holmes
The idea of setting up a no-fly zone would be if a Russian plane were to fly into the no-fly zone, it would be attacked by a plane.
So that would be an act of war.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's very simple.
dan friesen
And it's not something that hasn't already been understood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody knows that.
dan friesen
Prior to the invasion...
When the invasion happened.
jordan holmes
The whole thing, everybody was like, if we wanted to, we would have already done it.
dan friesen
Right.
Simultaneously, it's also not news to say that Germany is commenting that Ukraine won't be put into NATO, but that needs to be understood in context.
Prior to the invasion, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz was saying that there was no plan to bring Ukraine into the group and had very strong hands-off perspectives about sending aid.
In the lead-up to the invasion, they banned any other country from sending German-made weapons to help the Ukrainians, and the extent of their support was just sending some helmets and $5 million for a field hospital.
However, the invasion was a very serious turning point in terms of how Germany, and Schulz's government in particular, feels about their place in the greater scheme of European affairs.
After Putin invaded, Germany went back on their long-standing prohibition of providing lethal aid and sent anti-tank weapons and stinger defense systems to Ukraine, which honestly is a huge deal.
Scholz gave a speech in front of the Bundestag on February 27th, which signaled a complete change of policy in German international affairs.
Quote, With the attack on Ukraine, the Russian President Putin has started a war of aggression in cold blood.
Scholz clearly laid out the aggression on Ukraine as being a clear and immediate threat to the security of the whole of Europe and proposed a multi-pronged plan.
The first element was supporting Ukraine.
The second was an attempt to, quote, divert Putin from the path of war, largely by way of economic sanctions and embargoes.
The third was stopping any possible sprawl in the war by unconditionally defending any NATO member country, in particular by beefing up presence in countries like Romania and Lithuania.
The fourth was coming to terms with the fact that Putin is in fact intent on building a larger empire.
And the fifth was rethinking energy supplies.
This was a strong statement of participation in the isolation of Putin and the recognition of the need to support the people in Putin's path.
This is a far cry from the position coming from Scholz a mere week prior, and that's notable because Germany was the main country, along with Macron from France, who were engaged in the peace talks with Putin prior to the invasion.
There's a real feeling here that this is someone who was deeply involved in the attempt to avert the invasion, responding to that invasion with a change in tone.
jordan holmes
It's almost as though in those negotiations he was under the impression that absolutely we would be able at the very least to have a good faith conversation about peace.
And he's probably figured out that that was never part of the fucking game.
dan friesen
I've heard that suggested by folks, and I think that's a very possible interpretation of these events.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's where the angle in Alex's commentary comes in.
He's trying to paint a picture where the reality is that Putin is getting what he wanted out of the invasion.
Mm-hmm.
What Alex is doing is attempting to create the image of a victory for Putin, but it's nothing of the sort.
Ukraine wasn't going to be joining NATO anytime soon, even if their path toward membership was still on the table and a future possibility.
The notion that they were going to be joining and that it was a done deal was part of Putin's justification for his invasion.
And Alex is essentially playing along with that entire framing of the situation.
Like, Ukraine was going to go into NATO, which Putin didn't want, so he invaded, and now they're not going to.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It may be the case that they rethink some other things, too, like the prospect of supporting Ukraine's bid to join NATO.
I'm not saying that's necessarily going to be the case, but if anything, it seems like this invasion could make that more likely.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
As well as the possibility that people understand the need to protect other countries.
jordan holmes
Oh, I mean, there's no doubt the invasion happened and more and more countries immediately were like, let's join NATO!
I think that's a way better place to be than the guys being invaded right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, you look at what's happening.
jordan holmes
Let's join the EU.
Let's join NATO.
Let's get in there, man.
Let's really fucking mix it up.
dan friesen
This wouldn't be happening if we had the backing of the obligation of the rest of the world, essentially.
Or a lot of the rest of the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is a strange way that Alex is starting out the show.
It gives you a real sense of...
Putin fandom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The best way to keep Ukraine from joining NATO is to install a pro-Putin regime.
That's usually the best way.
dan friesen
It seems to have worked historically.
Yeah, traditionally.
I think that might be something that's on the table.
jordan holmes
It's kind of an outcome that they're going for.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex has some other ideas about this here invasion that are dumb.
alex jones
We just aired that incredible report that's so important.
Pentagon funded bioweapons lab in Ukraine.
It is confirmed by U.S. government documents that they tried to take down.
So that's not fake news.
The Russians did seize those.
dan friesen
So this is essentially a QAnon narrative that Alex must have seen someone post a meme about on social media and he's decided to report on as if he did some kind of a deep dive on the subject.
What's fascinating about this is that this conspiracy actually predates COVID and has been a topic heavily pushed by the Russian state media for years.
Predictably, this brand of conspiracy was deployed to shift blame around after Russia poisoned Sergei Skripal and his daughter with a nerve agent.
The U.S. does help fund some labs in countries like Ukraine and Georgia, but the reasoning behind that is pretty simple.
After the Soviet Union broke up, there were remnants of old chemical and biological agents that had to be tested on, and much of that research that could be done on these things was being done in unsafe locations.
The U.S. and Ukraine entered into a weapons proliferation treaty in 2005 that was centered around offering funding to modernize these facilities that Ukraine was already operating so that they would have a far lower risk of something going terribly wrong, these nerve agents and chemical weapons getting out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's wise.
dan friesen
This involved a certain amount of information sharing, but ultimately the Ukrainian Ministry of Health was still in charge of these facilities.
Flash forward to the COVID pandemic breaking out and you see Russia and China both putting forth theories that the virus was made in a lab in Ukraine.
The reasons for this served a number of purposes for each country.
And for Russia, it allowed Putin to present Western involvement in and the Ukrainian government as a whole as a threat to Russia, which would then justify hostile action against them or at least rationalize continued hostilities in the Donbass region.
jordan holmes
Right.
Just because it's not true doesn't mean it's not useful.
dan friesen
Right.
This conspiracy theory as a whole didn't go anywhere in the early days of the pandemic.
There were just too many shiny objects distracting conspiracy theorists.
An old battle over ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the election in January 6th.
All this stuff took the attention away of people like Alex and they lost track of this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But now that Russia has invaded Ukraine, conspiracy theorists are on the hunt for anything that can intrigue people and also make Putin's invasion justifiable to their audiences.
So this old nugget is getting another chance at the spotlight.
Up to this point, I've really only heard this theory getting play on QAnon outlets, so I guess Alex has just decided, like, maybe I'll give it a shot.
jordan holmes
Can't beat him, join him.
dan friesen
It's really bad, and the only reason you report on something like this, let alone lead your program with it, is if you're trying to find ways to make Putin look good.
Like, sure, he's bombing civilian targets and waging an unnecessary war of aggression, but secretly he's trying to shut down these U.S.-run biological weapons labs, man.
He's creating a heroic story for his listeners to accept so they don't get the idea in their head that Putin is bad.
I'm not sure if Alex thinks he's being subtle about this, but it actually seems hard to imagine a way he could be more insidiously trying to get his audience to support Putin while trying to couch his commentary and like...
I don't know, plausible deniability.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, this is an unjust war, unless Putin saves all of us from a biological warfare issue.
dan friesen
He's just trying to stop the next COVID.
jordan holmes
He's just trying to save the world, and all of us are just getting in his way?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's the globalists, man!
dan friesen
That's the thrust of the...
This narrative being deployed.
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
It's 100% okay to publicly murder people, but as long as you're secretly saving the world from bioweapons that don't exist.
dan friesen
As long as we can come up with a fake secret reason that you're doing the things you're doing, hey, it's game on.
jordan holmes
It's all good for us.
dan friesen
So, Alex has some concerns about the way things are going.
Mostly that, look, I don't like to have to bring this up, but All Ukrainians are liars, apparently.
alex jones
Evacuation, ceasefire breaks down, we're being told.
But we don't know if any of that's true because Zelensky and Ukraine and the mainstream media lie about everything.
And again, I'm not siding with Russia, but I don't siding with these liars either.
You can't believe a damn thing they say, like the attack on the reactor, and that it was melting down and leaking.
None of that was true.
The ghost of Kiev, the Snake Island.
The list goes on and on.
dan friesen
You'll notice that Alex doesn't struggle with statements like this when Putin makes them.
He doesn't say that Putin has said something, but who knows if it's true because he's a liar.
That kind of skepticism is reserved for claims from and about Ukraine, and there's a utility to this as well.
It's an attempt to give his audience permission to not believe claims that Russian troops are not honoring things like civilian corridors where non-combatants can leave besieged cities, which is something that has been reported.
There was an agreement to allow citizens to leave Mariupol that was ceased after reports were that Russian forces continued shelling the city, not honoring the ceasefire, which is an attack on civilians.
jordan holmes
Well, you could call that a lie.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
War crime.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't want that image to even be considered possible for his audience because then they might start asking too many questions and that looks bad for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want to look at these examples that Alex lists in order to justify his claims that Zelensky and Ukraine lie about everything to see if there's any ground to stand on here.
In these sorts of conflicts, there are obviously some things that get played up for PR and to appeal to the international community.
That's part of information warfare.
But the question becomes, what is the nature of the thing that's being used for information warfare?
Obviously lying about an atrocity, whether saying one did happen when it didn't or saying one didn't when it did, is an evil form of information warfare.
Alex engages in this kind of action constantly, most notably with his lies and denial regarding Syria and Assad's use of chemical weapons.
As far as I can tell, there's no instances of anything rising to that level coming from Zelensky, nor does Alex even have a list that ranks anywhere close.
The first thing Alex claims is that the attack on the reactor was a lie, or that the idea that it was melting down and leaking is a lie.
People on Twitter definitely went a bit overboard with that, but that attack definitely did happen.
As the firing on the plant went on, Dmitry Kuleba, Ukraine's foreign affairs minister, tweeted, quote, Russian army is firing on all sides from Zapor, I'm not even going to try, a nuclear power plant, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
Fire has already broken out.
If it blows up, it will be ten times larger than Chernobyl.
Russians must immediately seize fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone.
This, you could say, is sensational.
Possibly, you know, if you wanted to.
Or you could say that it was a person who was concerned that a nuclear power plant was on fire and that something needed to be done about it.
You could say that the comments he made were possibly inaccurate or over the top, but that's not a lie, really.
jordan holmes
I mean, I get...
Because there were tons of people who were coming back with sober, like, listen, here are all the safety measures, here are all the things, it's...
Probably not going to explode.
dan friesen
It's dangerous.
It's bad, but it's not going to be like a movie.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't fucking freak out.
There's not going to be a giant mushroom cloud that covers all of Europe.
At the same time, they were shooting rockets at a nuclear power plant, man.
That's not a joke.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So, regardless of any possible overstatements by the Foreign Affairs Minister, what Alex is doing here is trying to whitewash the shocking act of the Russian military targeting nuclear power plant in a pretty dangerous way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if this counts as, like, ha-ha, such a lie that you shouldn't believe anything these people say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The second supposed lie Alex brings up is the Ghost of Kiev.
The story that went around on the first day of the invasion about an ace pilot who had shot down multiple Russian air units.
jordan holmes
Everybody fucking loves an ace pilot.
dan friesen
Yeah, so does Snoopy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's just America.
dan friesen
Initially, a video went around that was supposedly of a pilot who was being called the Ghost of Kiev shooting down a Russian plane.
But it turned out this was footage from a video game, Digital Combat Simulator World.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Other pictures supposedly of him have all been shown to be fake, and ultimately this is a situation where this person may be not a real single person.
There are a couple aspects of this that make it not the same as the malicious sort of information warfare that we've discussed Alex participating in.
There's no indication that the government started this story, as it appears to have just popped up on social media, which does make a difference.
Also, the intention here is very clear.
A huge fear in terms of the matchup between Ukraine and Russia was that Russia had almost comical air superiority, and that would be Ukraine's downfall.
By people on social media amplifying a folktale about a mysterious fighter pilot with an ominous It was a piece of information warfare that served only the purpose of raising morale, and I don't think that's the kind of thing you should really consider so heinous as to brand an entire country and their leader as a liar, especially considering it was a story that came out of social media.
I don't think this works.
jordan holmes
It's not like Zelensky made up the Ghost of Kiev story and was like, let's get this out there and do that whole thing.
dan friesen
The third example Alex uses is Snake Island, and that's actually one of the worst cases he could point to.
Initially, the story was that these people who were stationed at Snake Island told the Russian boat to fuck themselves, and then they died.
Or at least it was assumed they died, because all radio contact with them was lost.
There was shelling, and no one knew what happened, so it was assumed they had died.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As it turns out, they were taken hostage by the Russian troops and are still alive.
This wasn't known until Russia released footage of them being held in Crimea.
This doesn't actually change the real powerful part of the story, though, which is still true.
The thing that people responded to so strongly in that story was the audio of the Russian boat telling them to surrender and them telling the boat to fuck off.
jordan holmes
Atomically overwhelming odds.
dan friesen
That is true.
And they tried to repel the Russian attack, but ultimately ran out of ammo.
In the end, they were captured, but that moment of telling the Russian troops to fuck themselves was real, and the attempt to fight them off was real, and that's what people were responding to at bottom.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Ultimately, none of the things Alex brings up as examples of things that make him sure that Zelensky and Ukraine are liars, none of it amounts to anything.
This makes sense, because all he's doing here is grasping at straws to create a justification for his audience to believe that everything they hear about Russian attacks on civilians is not true.
Because how can you possibly believe these people with this damning list of lies that Alex has presented?
It's all just more attempts by Alex to support Putin without having to say that that's what he's doing.
He's a coward.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't want to say that it's totally okay for Putin to go into another sovereign country and bomb the shit out of innocent people, but I will say that it's okay so long as...
Whatever.
dan friesen
Well, no, it's not even saying it's okay.
It's like, who knows if it's even happening based on these motherfucking liars talking about a ghost pilot.
jordan holmes
I mean, the best he can do is exaggerators.
These people who are relying on hyperbole to inspire people.
Who would ever consider that?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there is a difference.
Between, let's say, propaganda that a country would put out that denies their own atrocity-type actions.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And...
Propaganda that a country could put out, whether it's someone else puts it out and they tacitly approve of it or they even put it out themselves, of like, hey, soldiers get laid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I mean, yeah, you go back and you think of those World War II propaganda films where it's like, news from the front, our boys in green are doing a wonderful job fighting against the evil krauts.
You know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen
You can think of that as kind of like...
It's a little bit dishonest.
jordan holmes
It's jingoistic.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not the same thing as like, I can't believe anything these fuckers say.
jordan holmes
It's not quite.
dan friesen
I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a country that wouldn't engage in that kind of morale-boosting PR campaign.
Because why would you be like, shit's fucked.
jordan holmes
We are dedicated only to the truth in advertising here.
We have lost this battle brutally.
I don't know if we're ever going to win this.
dan friesen
Or the opposite side.
Nothing is going to help.
jordan holmes
This is a nightmare.
We're fucking dead.
dan friesen
It's not even the truth.
It's like...
jordan holmes
Lay down.
Just lay down.
dan friesen
Just pessimistic, depressed news.
So anyway, you get a really strong sense from the beginning of this special report that Alex is pretty invested in supporting Putin while at the same time pretending he's not.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But then something really weird happens.
alex jones
So the prognosis...
Runs from bad to worse.
And I just really can't lie to you, and I'm not going to lie to you, that this is the nature of consciousness.
And not everybody is going to find God in their time on this planet.
A lot of folks are going to find chaos and oblivion and mindlessness and evil.
And this is all just a big test.
And so we have to understand that in God's Infinite wisdom.
Complete wisdom.
That this is simply a test.
And so we have to be very sad for those that fail it.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
We have to realize that this planet and everything on it and what we're doing is completely and totally transitory.
And you have to just turn loose of it.
I think listeners and viewers know things aren't going to get very nice in the next decade.
The globalists plan to have 90% of everybody dead by 2030.
And I keep explaining, like, they really mean to do this, and they're really putting things into function that are going to end civilization as we know it.
And when civilization breaks down, go watch a movie like The Road Warrior.
From the early 1980s, and that's going to be like a vacation spot.
That hellish, dystopic, nightmare future.
In fact, guys, I had this framed over the weekend, or Friday, and I forgot to bring it.
It's sitting either on my couch in my office or on my desk.
I had it meant to bring it in here.
My door is open to my office.
Will one of you great folks go to my office and get me a diagram that's got a bunch of overlapping...
Points, and it's a meme I saw.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Hey, you saw a meme.
dan friesen
And he framed it.
jordan holmes
Framed a meme.
That's your real NFT right there.
dan friesen
Oh, my fucking God.
You know, we're doing this disgusting Putin justification session then.
Hey, shit's bad.
Everyone's gonna be dead in eight years.
This is all a simulation.
Also, I should tell you, I framed a meme.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
That I've gotta have somebody go get from my office.
jordan holmes
There's so much awful going on in that short clip.
dan friesen
Two minutes.
unidentified
Two minutes.
dan friesen
What a ride.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
Amazing.
Also, I can see Alex being a post-apocalyptic guy wearing a hockey mask.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Just screaming.
dan friesen
On vacation.
jordan holmes
Give up the gasoline, road warrior!
dan friesen
Sorrows.
jordan holmes
Sorrows!
dan friesen
Everyone's sorry.
jordan holmes
This man doesn't even have any gasoline.
It's a conspiracy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say that if I were going to come up with a title for this episode, it would be Alex Framed a Meme.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good title.
dan friesen
Because it's shocking, and it...
There's more time spent on it than you might like.
jordan holmes
That's all.
Any is more time than I might like.
dan friesen
You're not wrong.
But Alex promises that he's going to talk about this meme and then he's going to get to the real shit.
Down to business.
alex jones
It's a meme I saw Thursday and I asked my assistant to frame it and it was already on my desk the next day.
So I want to show folks that if Smile just walked down the hall and to bring that to me that would be great.
Thank you very much.
And I think this says it all.
So what I'm doing here is I'm going to show you this diagram, and then I'm going to be a good boy and stop holding back and go ahead and just lay it out.
dan friesen
What are you holding back?
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm telling you, everybody who has ever written a history book or anything like that...
What kind of idiots are spending thousands of words whenever you could put a meme out there that explains it all?
dan friesen
Can you imagine like a textbook that was just full of memes?
jordan holmes
I mean, they'd be the best.
dan friesen
That's how you would get a good education as opposed to these words.
unidentified
What are you doing with words?
dan friesen
It's a better way to learn.
Also, not one of the ways to learn.
jordan holmes
Not one of the four ways to learn.
dan friesen
So he has to get somebody to bring it from his office.
And this takes a little while, so he has to vamp a bit.
And, you know, just talking about some COVID stuff.
alex jones
And, you know, when I lay all this out, a lot of people think, hey, that's great news.
It's coming out that they did this.
But then when you read the Spars 2025-2028 document...
Put out by the Rockefeller and John Hopkins and Bill and Melinda Gates group.
They talk about how when they hit us with the bioweapon, how they're going to get caught in the process and how that's meant to trigger the loss of confidence in the government and the system and collapse civilization.
dan friesen
Alex is making that up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
When we covered spars in depth in a past episode, we went over this.
I'm not going to get too far into it again, but the part that Alex is talking about is just completely, this is just out of his imagination.
The idea that officials want to get caught with this whole web of lies in order to erode faith in the government, in order to collapse society, comes entirely from a part in Chapter 19 discussing the late stages of the pandemic response where after-action reports are being made.
Quote, emergency funding appropriated by Congress to fight the disease became available partway through the course of the pandemic, but federal, state and local public health agencies struggled to manage the procedural requirements to fight the disease.
As a result, significant amounts of emergency funds remained unused as the pandemic wound down.
As the investigations grew in intensity, several high-ranking officials at the CDC and FDA were forced to step down and withdraw from government in order to, quote, spend more time with their families.
Exhausted employees of these agencies, many of whom worked long hours, six or seven days a week throughout the pandemic, simply wanted to put the whole response behind them.
Little desire remained on the part of decision makers or those who served in the trenches during the response to rehash the events of the past several years.
In this fictitious scenario that's being used in this exercise, some people had misappropriated funds and possibly stolen some of the money, but instead of dragging everyone through the mud, they resigned to, quote, That's the passage in this document that Alex has transformed into the coverage that you're seeing him present here because he's a malicious liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and also it's ridiculous.
We saw in real life it's people from the Fed who wound up resigning for all of their insider trading and shit.
Duh.
dan friesen
Right.
They got it wrong.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Anyway, he started to re-talk about the Spars thing.
That seems to be more present in his mind, so I want to just give a little bit of a refresher on it here and there.
But the meme shows up.
jordan holmes
Gotta find out what it is that this meme explains.
dan friesen
This meme is tragic.
jordan holmes
How tragic?
dan friesen
So, so, so, so tragic.
jordan holmes
Like Titus Andronica's tragic?
dan friesen
No, Titus isn't included, but a lot of other works of fiction are.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
So...
Here's a meme I saw for TV viewers.
I'll describe it for radio listeners.
But it's a bunch of overlapping circles, diagram, and in the middle it says, you are here.
And then there's a bunch of dystopic films and books and TV shows.
You've got The Hunger Games at the bottom and 1984 at the top and Brave New World over on the left and Idiocracy on the right.
And they lives up in the corner, and you got Fahrenheit 451.
You got Animal Farm.
You got Mad Max.
You got Soylent Green.
You got The Matrix.
And really, you are here.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Because all of these were just artists and futurists and people.
dan friesen
This is really stupid, but this couldn't be a moron brand for Alex to frame a fucking meme.
Like, he's a huge, huge loser.
So there's a bunch of problems with this meme.
One of the largest being that the worlds that are depicted in these various pieces of fiction are at many points contradictory with each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they have to be mutually exclusive.
dan friesen
For instance, the worlds of 1984 and Brave New World are explicitly at odds with each other, as was discussed actually at length in Aldous Huxley's speech, Brave New World Revisited, that Alex likes to cite and lie about all the time.
At its core, this meme is a complex Venn diagram, and that's really where the trouble begins.
The point of it is, it's obviously supposed to be that you're at this intersection of all these pieces of dystopian fiction, right in the middle.
You're here.
It's cute, but it's also really lazy, and it doesn't pay any respect to the pieces of fiction it's using as a prop.
So, at its core, there are four actual circles, and then everything else is just the intersection of those circles.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Right?
So, the four circles are 1984, Idiocracy, Hunger Games, and Brave New World.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
From there, you get the areas that overlap, which are labeled as being depicted as other movies.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, now...
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
We're going to play a game.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I'm going to give you the movie that appears in this meme, and you have to tell me the combination of what makes that movie using those four initial...
jordan holmes
Wow, this is fun.
I think you should frame this meme.
dan friesen
Let's turn this audio into an NFT.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Alright, first, Lord of the Flies.
There's three components.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Three of those four initial movies create the Lord of the Flies.
jordan holmes
Okay, Lord of the Flies.
I'm going to go with...
What were the four movies again?
dan friesen
Yeah, Idiocracy, 1984, Hunger Games, and Brave New World.
jordan holmes
Alright, so I'm going to go with Hunger Games.
1984 and Idiocracy.
dan friesen
Ooh, Hunger Games, Idiocracy, and Brave New World.
jordan holmes
Ooh, but why would the Lord of the Flies...
They didn't create a good Brave New World.
dan friesen
So close.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
So close.
dan friesen
Didn't you see that part in Brave New World where they kill Piggy?
jordan holmes
I did not see that part.
It was real sad, though.
dan friesen
They Live.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Two.
dan friesen
There's two movies that make up They Live.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, They Live has to be 1984.
dan friesen
I'm going to tell you you're correct.
jordan holmes
And...
Can't be Hunger Games.
You know what?
I'm going to go ahead and go with Idiocracy.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Brave New World and 1984.
jordan holmes
What?
That's not possible!
You can't do that!
unidentified
The Brave New World and 1984 intersections, they live.
jordan holmes
So, what?
There are aliens and they live!
dan friesen
True.
The Matrix.
jordan holmes
Three.
dan friesen
There's three components that come into the Matrix.
jordan holmes
Well, if any more of these are a combination of 1984 and a Brave New World, I'm going to be furious.
dan friesen
This one is.
jordan holmes
That's what I thought.
dan friesen
So then there's a third.
I guess you should be able to skip this by...
jordan holmes
So it's 1984, Brave New World, and Hunger Games.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's great.
That makes the Matrix.
jordan holmes
Great.
How is Hunger Games the Matrix?
dan friesen
Who knows?
Okay.
Mad Max.
jordan holmes
Mad Max.
Okay.
Well, that's got to be...
Brave New World and Hunger Games.
dan friesen
Hunger Games and Idiocracy.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
There's nothing idiotic about the government in Mad Max.
They're very smart.
dan friesen
Hunger Games, I can kind of see where you're coming from there.
Fahrenheit 451, two.
jordan holmes
Okay, I swear to God, that's got to be 1984 and Brave New World again, right?
dan friesen
1984 and Idiocracy.
unidentified
Wait!
jordan holmes
Idiocracy because they're burning books?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
So anyway, the point is that this meme is stupid, but it pretends to be literate and making a deep point, so Alex has printed it out, framed it, and he's possibly mere days away from selling it as a shirt.
There's a ton of variations of this meme using different works of fiction.
Like, ones other than Alex's version use things like V for Vendetta, Logan's Run, Handmaid's Tale, Gattaca, Clockwork Orange.
The point is that the specific pieces of fiction are interchangeable for whatever other books or movies you want to throw in, because this isn't about making an actual point.
It's selling a feeling.
jordan holmes
It's just flavor of dystopia today.
dan friesen
Yeah, but interestingly, if you look back over the history of this meme, you'll find that it actually grew out of a meme trend where people were making fun of people comparing everything to 1984.
Early versions of it were really simple, just a Venn diagram of 1984, Brave New World, and Fahrenheit 451 with a you are here in the middle, more or less mocking.
Ah, he's taking it back, though.
jordan holmes
He's powerful.
dan friesen
You've got to reclaim it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's taking it back.
dan friesen
Alex has been on vacation for a week, and he comes back and he decides he should take time to brag about framing a meaningless and possibly insulting to him meme.
This guy's just fucking impressively stupid.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
And he doesn't stop here.
I mean, he talks about this meme for like half an hour or so.
But here's a real mic drop moment for him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Humans are really good at envisioning where things are going, and a lot of people...
jordan holmes
No, they're bad at it.
alex jones
They wrote these books.
In fact, all of them said this is kind of where they think the world's going.
These were social commentary about what the world would be like in the year 2022.
You know what movie's set in 2022?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Guess which one?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Soylent Green.
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
We're made of people!
dan friesen
The movie Soylent Green is set in 2022, but it's based on a book titled Make Room, Make Room, which was set in 1999.
Also, the book didn't involve cannibalism in the form of Soylent Green.
That was an invention of the studio, so I guess Alex really likes the prophetic work of Richard Fleischer, who was the director, who also directed The Jazz Singer, which featured Neil Diamond at Blackface.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Harry Harrison, the author of Make Room, Make Room, has even said that the cannibalism idea is dumb because you couldn't process enough meat to feed the hungry people that way.
jordan holmes
Every time I have been told, because I've been told many times, that Neil Diamond did blackface.
Every time, I'm like, that can't be real.
dan friesen
In the jazz singer.
jordan holmes
And then I forget about it.
And then it happens again the exact same way.
And I think that must be why everybody just gives him the pass on that, is because nobody believes it really happened.
dan friesen
It's shocking, first of all, to hear that Neil Diamond starred in a movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
You're like, that's even weirder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
Anyway, the same guy who directed Soylent Green directed that.
Alex has seen movies that he wants to pretend are real, but he also knows that he would sound really dumb if he didn't pretend that these ideas were somehow rooted in a kind of literate background.
These people who wrote these works were envisioning the future they worried about coming to pass, right?
That's really not true in most of these cases, and often Alex is either intentionally missing or incapable of grasping what the actual point of any of these stories is actually even about.
Also, who gives a shit when these stories are set?
Brave New World is set in 2540, and Idiocracy is in 2505.
None of it means anything.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
In my book, spoiler alert, the world ends.
And it's not because I thought that's how it was going to happen.
I thought it would be fun.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I thought it would be a fun little jaunt.
dan friesen
Some of it is a rhetorical device.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex is really dumb.
He spent a long time talking about this meme, but finally decides to jump off into other territories.
alex jones
When we hit this, I'm going to try to move as quick as I can because there's obviously a lot to get to and I really need to get to all this.
And I'm just begging Lester to realize what a big deal all of this is.
And the fact that this information comes out and then it's like Blowing on a dandelion and the little parachutes, little spores, little seeds go out and they disappear as the wind catches them.
You don't know where they land or if they ever sprout or where that information goes.
But nevertheless, this information needs to find fertile ground.
dan friesen
So Alex is expressing his show as being like a dandelion with all the parachutes going out.
And they need to take root somewhere in order for the plant to continue.
But I would say that it's also kind of like that because it's just random.
Yeah.
He just throws a bunch of shit out there in hopes it lands in some soil somewhere.
jordan holmes
And it's a weed that will break down, let's call it, society's sidewalks, so to speak.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's other ways that this is an apt metaphor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a surprisingly good metaphor for him.
It was delivered in an incredibly clunky way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was terrible.
dan friesen
So the big news, there's some big COVID news that Alex needs to get to.
And the first has to do with a recent bit of commentary made by the head of the CDC, Rachel Walensky.
alex jones
They had the head of the CDC come out Friday.
I got the clip coming up.
And she said, Oh, we were wishful thinking.
The vaccine doesn't work.
We're sorry.
That's all in the spars.
2025, 2028.
And when you follow it, it's a war game.
Well, a war game of attacking Russia or Russia attacking us is a simulation of what you really do.
dan friesen
So a great deal of this show, after the meme talk, is just Alex rambling in grandiose terms about how he's proven that COVID is a bioweapon made in a lab and all this other shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There really wasn't any concrete claims being made for long stretches of this.
So this is actually just something to talk about.
Yeah, that's great.
The head of the CDC, Rachel Walensky, didn't come out and apologize and say that vaccines don't work.
That's a bunch of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that doesn't sound true.
dan friesen
She was speaking at the University of Washington and had some very reflective things to say about the pandemic response and the messaging around vaccines.
She was speaking about how when the vaccines were being tested and they were seeing 95% rates of effectiveness...
That some people may have been too full of optimism and had too little caution, particularly surrounding ideas of waning immunity and the possibility of new variants not being covered as effectively by the vaccine.
This was specifically in response to a question of where improvements could have been made.
She was speaking about messaging failures less than she was saying that the vaccine didn't work, mostly because she wasn't saying that at all.
Alex seems pretty hot on this Spars document on this episode because he keeps bringing it up and making shit up about it.
I suspect that he feels like it's been long enough since he's really talked about it that his audience will have forgotten the main talking points surrounding the document and he can just use it to fill in whatever holes that he has in his conspiracy and be like, oh, it's just like out of Spars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this was not originally part of the Spars discussion.
dan friesen
No.
It's almost...
Like he's just using it where it's convenient.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all he ever does.
jordan holmes
Just toss it in there where it's retconable.
dan friesen
This thing about vaccines not working doesn't happen in that scenario exercise.
It's important to remember that this is an exercise based on public health messaging, so every chapter is meant to depict a particular challenge that could come up in the course of a pandemic in terms of how to effectively communicate information to the public.
In this scenario, there are two drugs that are of central importance.
There's a vaccine that's being worked on trying to get rapidly developed, Coravex, and there's an already existing antiviral drug that shows some promise of working against spars called Calosevir.
Chapter 9 is about messaging the dilemma of finding out that in further trials of Calosevir that it's not actually effective at...
And that pursuing it as a possible cure has to be abandoned, even though a lot of money has been put into testing.
People have a predictable social media backlash to the withdrawing of colosivir as a potential treatment, which is expressed as distrust that the government has any idea that they know what they're doing around the pandemic.
This is in no way analogous to the story that Alex is telling, and I'm being generous when I say that this is the part of the document he's lying about.
It's entirely possible that he's just making up what he's saying out of thin air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say.
You can say that it's part of this part that he's thinking about.
dan friesen
Well, that's the closest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He could be thinking...
I'm thinking about a completely different part that has nothing to do with what he's talking about.
dan friesen
It could just be a figment of his imagination.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
He's not above that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, relying on him to need a physical thing is just out of the realm of normal.
dan friesen
This is the problem of trying to ground some of this stuff in reality and sources.
Sometimes it's just not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just not going to happen.
dan friesen
So Alex has another big narrative.
This is the big...
Big news.
jordan holmes
This is the big news.
dan friesen
The big COVID news.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And it has to do with the Blaze.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Glenn Beck's outfit.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
They have a big new bit of information.
alex jones
It's all come out it isn't a vaccine.
It's all come out it doesn't help you.
It's all come out it attacks your body.
It attacks your double helix.
And now what has come out?
This is the big new news.
jordan holmes
The new news.
alex jones
The great researchers, thank God they're now fully awake and aren't naive anymore, at the Blaze.
Did something smart.
They put in a FOIA request concerning federal government spending on propaganda, pushing the COVID narrative and the anti-avermectin narrative and the pro-vaccine narrative that isn't a vaccine.
You can read the documents for yourself.
I spent an hour today reading them.
And the government admits they're real.
$1 billion was spent in the first year of Biden being in office secretly.
To buy off thousands of mainstream media outlets, TV stations, networks, newspapers, local TV.
This is just one program we know of.
One billion dollars.
And they had to sign an agreement that they would have no anti-vaccine coverage.
Total fraud.
dan friesen
So when real investigative journalists FOIA documents, one of the really important things that they do is they post the underlying documents so people who are reading about their release can review the actual documents and assess whether or not they match up with the claims that are being made in the reporting.
It should come as no surprise that the Blaze article that Alex is covering contains no link to any of these actual documents they're claiming that they got from the Department of Health and Human Services.
The article that's posted on the Blaze has nothing to do with any information that would have been found in any of these supposed documents.
It's just complaining about media coverage of COVID and then pointing to already public information, like the fact that the American Rescue Plan Act, or H.R. 1319, contained $1 billion in funding for HHS to engage in activities to, quote, strengthen vaccine confidence.
None of the information in this article would require any FOIA documents to write, and I have strong suspicion that...
If this guy even got documents, they aren't as revelatory or shocking as he'd hoped, so the strategy is just to use their supposed existence as a prop while repeating other salacious information that's already public in the body of the article.
Also, to be clear, the $1 billion claim isn't from FOIA documents.
It's from H.R. 1319, and not all of that was spent on advertising budgets.
Without the actual documents, there's nothing being reported here.
It's just insinuation and vague claims.
Also, another important thing to point out is that these guys really fucked up their story.
The whole thing is about how the Biden administration did this.
But if you go and consult the Blaze article, they say that this happened in fiscal year 2021, which isn't the same.
Ouch!
No.
unidentified
Fiscal year 2021 goes from May 1st, 2020 to April 30th, 2021.
dan friesen
So it's actually something that happened under Trump.
This is partially because the Blaze article is cherry-picking information and not putting it into context for their readers.
They cite the American Rescue Plan Act as the source of this funding, but the language in that bill is really just a continuation of the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2021, which was signed by Trump.
Overall, this whole article seems deeply misleading.
This paragraph shows up in the Post.
Though virtually all of these newsrooms produce stories covering the COVID-19 vaccines, the taxpayer dollars flowing to their companies were not disclosed to audiences in news reports, since common practice dictates that editorial teams operate independently of media advertising departments and news teams felt no need to make the disclosure, as some publications reached for comment explained.
They have literally no evidence or even the suggestion of evidence that any of the money went to people who wrote news stories, news reports, or even editorials about COVID.
The best The Blaze can do is include a comedic video that was run on NBC featuring Elton John and Michael Caine that ends with a big placard disclosing funding from the NHS.
That's not even in the United States and it includes clear disclosure and it's a funny video.
If I had to bet, I would say that whatever documents they got showed that the HHS paid for advertising slots for PSAs that they made and which contained disclosure of funding sources, and now the story is being spun and saying they paid NBC to have Fauci on or some bullshit.
Also, important to point out that Alex is also making up details here.
The Blaze story itself is dumb, but Alex is also just making stuff up about it that doesn't even appear in the article.
Another weird point, though, is that Infowars didn't even post the Blaze story on their website.
They posted a write-up about the Blaze article from someone named Emerald Robinson Substack.
She seems like a far-right dum-dum, so this is probably some buzz marketing, or it could be that InfoWars is worried that Glenn Beck wouldn't just let them steal his content and repost it like Alex does with everybody else.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Either way, this is just really dumb, and it's not a bombshell at all.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I would say that this guy's got to post these FOIA documents.
If he wants me to take this seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, one way to say that you...
dan friesen
I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase, because I went to the FOIA site, and I searched his name, I searched the Blaze, didn't find anything, and I'm not going to search through every single HHS-related FOIA request.
jordan holmes
No, you are not.
dan friesen
I don't have time.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, fucking show your work, Ding Dong.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Another way of describing someone as having bought off the media companies is to say they purchased advertising space.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, they spent money on creating PSAs, which were very clearly PSAs.
So one could assume that they're from the government.
dan friesen
And the one that they included was funny, too.
Like, it was bizarre.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I watched it.
I was expecting it to be really dumb and kind of hacky.
But it was Elton John auditioning to be in a commercial for COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they were, like, giving him directions on how to deliver the line.
And they're like, all right, just for fun, do a Michael Caine impression.
And he does a really fun Michael Caine impression.
At the end, they're like, I don't know.
We'll call you back.
We'll see.
They're like, oh, yeah.
It's like, who are you going to get in short time?
And then it flashes to Michael Caine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There it is.
All right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
That's fun.
What are you going to do?
What are you going to bitch about that?
Come on, man.
dan friesen
It's fun.
So yeah, they paid for those to be made and probably paid for PSA slots, and I don't think that this is a scandal, but it's being made a scandal by craven, desperate weirdos who work for Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
This is weak tea.
dan friesen
No, it's not strong.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
They could do so much better.
dan friesen
No, they couldn't.
jordan holmes
No, they couldn't.
dan friesen
No, all their process is based on building these convenient and useful lies.
They can't do better.
Man.
unidentified
Because reporting accurate things wouldn't be exciting for the audience.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
And then the feedback loop gets broken.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
People stop paying attention to your site because you're too into information.
dan friesen
Gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
And so inevitably you just, you know, you had to chase the dragon that is the audience's fickle attention.
Anyway, Alex gets mad about how no one told us that these things were being done, these fundings.
And the real scandal is that Fox News and Newsmax are apparently people who took some of this advertising money.
jordan holmes
How dare they?
dan friesen
Right, and they're supposed to be cool.
jordan holmes
They're supposed to be on the side of the patriots.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
alex jones
Well, the feds say it's secret how much they paid Newsmax.
But they did.
And of course, Fox News.
That's why they would always say, I'm not saying you shouldn't take the vaccine.
Everybody should get their vaccine.
All we're saying is you shouldn't be made to do it.
Because they were told on ABC, NBC, you name it, Fox, don't criticize it in any way if you have to say everybody should take it, but we have a question.
And then that was the segue.
Did anybody at Fox News or Newsmax or CNN Did they tell you that they were being paid by the federal government with your taxpayer money and signed an agreement not to do any criticism or talk to anybody that was critical?
No.
You didn't get that memo, did you?
dan friesen
No, because it's not true.
I would imagine that most of the on-air talent have no idea what the ad department is up to.
jordan holmes
It's not their job.
dan friesen
No, there's a complete disconnect from that stuff.
Also, Alex is making up the part about them signing agreements that they can't do any critical vaccine coverage.
That's not even in the Blaze article.
Also, a good piece of evidence that Alex seems to have forgotten here that's kind of a counterexample to what he's talking about is the most important person in the world, Tucker Carlson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did if...
unidentified
If...
dan friesen
That would blow this whole advertising campaign, probably, if Fox News is getting all this money and Tucker Carlson won't shut his damn mouth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because he was definitely...
I mean, if the money was given to Fox News for the previous year, you know, then Tucker wouldn't be the most important person in the world because he would have to say, like, I'm not saying don't take your vaccines.
I'm not saying don't do this.
And then, no, there's no way.
There's no way.
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex gets off this topic and he starts to get contemplative, a little introspective about his court hearings.
jordan holmes
Well, it is a Saturday evening.
dan friesen
Now, I gotta say, I think if you listen to this clip, Alex is trying to express that globalists are trying to talk to him through his court hearings.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
jordan holmes
That is interesting.
alex jones
And in full disclosure, I'm talking to lawyers right now because...
jordan holmes
Right now?
alex jones
People can't do things in mediation that, in my view, is unethical or illegal and then expect that we're not ever going to talk about it.
But I'm going to leave it at that.
But you can imagine what the Democrats have done approaching us with the threats if we don't get on board with them.
And they even do it in the vehicle of lawsuits, which made me like, okay.
I'm never settling, and I'm going to go all the way with you people.
Because here's the deal, folks.
There's no bottom to these people.
And they're so confident in their takeover, they'll sit there face to face and say, get on board with us.
And not only will this be taken care of, but you'll be taken care of.
And you know...
This isn't the only time this has happened.
Because I like to be able to have these meetings.
And as long as something somebody isn't doing is criminal, I'm not going to talk about it on air.
Because I need to be able to meet with people over the years of all different types and not put out what they've said.
unidentified
But it's just insane.
alex jones
So they come to people and they say, you want money or do you want to be fired?
Do you want money or do you want to be sued?
But what good is all the money when you're giving hundreds of millions and billions of people a shot that double cuts their DNA and gives them cancer and gives them blood clots?
dan friesen
I guess Alex has now decided to imagine that he's being tempted to the dark side by globalists in his court hearings, and this is getting exhausting and really dumb.
His whole thing about how he likes to take meetings with these globalists is so fucking stupid, and this clip really brings that into focus.
He's pretending that he's cool as long as people aren't doing anything illegal, but these people are working for the devil to kill every human.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has supposedly proven all their plans, and not only that, they've admitted he's right and that they want him to join them, so they're doing very illegal things.
Possibly the most illegal things, if anything Alex is saying is true.
jordan holmes
If you are telling me...
20 minutes ago that the globalist plan is to kill 90% of the world within 10 years.
dan friesen
Eight now.
jordan holmes
Eight now.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're going to tell me that you're taking meetings with these folks, you know, and they're trying to convince me to join their side.
They're going to kill 90% of the world, man.
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
No, I got to stay.
They're not nice!
No, no, I got to keep my journalistic integrity intact by not saying anyone's names.
jordan holmes
No, 90% of the world!
dan friesen
Nah, it was off the record.
alex jones
Are they in the 90%?
jordan holmes
90%?
dan friesen
It was off the record.
jordan holmes
They wouldn't even care then!
They're gonna die!
dan friesen
So dumb.
Put aside the whole intrigue of killing everyone off and all that stuff.
Like, if what Alex is saying is true at all, these people are still committing crimes because they're attempting to extort him.
None of this is real at all.
It's just Alex's...
The way that he's decided to dramatize his court hearings and use those dramatizations to add to his own victimhood and martyrdom complexes.
It's kind of boring, and I don't believe that even he believes this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'd be more fun if one of Tom Clancy's ghostwriters wrote his trial.
That's what he would be going for there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets to talking about how great Glenn Beck is, because I guess he's cool now.
jordan holmes
I want some consistency.
dan friesen
But Alex can't even talk about how good Glenn Beck is without...
Kind of making it about himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
alex jones
So again, I will recap the big news.
It's on Infowars.com.
It's on Blaze.com.
I want to salute Glenn Beck.
I want to encourage people to tune into his show.
And he's a good man.
He didn't believe me 20 years ago or 10 years ago.
And he thought I was a liar.
Because I was a man way ahead of my time.
But he now knows the truth.
dan friesen
Funny how this plug for Glenn Beck is mysteriously more about how Alex was a prophet.
jordan holmes
Right, all the time.
dan friesen
Also, Glenn Beck had nothing to do with this article.
It was written by Chris Pandolfo, but Alex has no interest in the little people.
Everything that happens at Infowars is essentially dumb underlings carrying out Alex's will, so I guess he assumes the same is true everywhere else, and that everything at the blaze is a function of...
Of Glenn Beck.
Like, every Dave Rubin episode is basically underwritten by...
jordan holmes
It does feel like what he believes all news organizations to be is a megalomaniacal lunatic at the top who's just telling everybody, like, doling out tasks until they come back.
dan friesen
I grant that Glenn Beck has a lot of the appearance of that personality trait.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I can understand that, but I think he also is not that much of an idiot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To, like, micromanage so much.
jordan holmes
And doesn't want to work that hard.
dan friesen
No.
Not to say Alex is working hard.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
He's just angry and abusive.
jordan holmes
He's there and he's yelling.
dan friesen
So, Alex, look, man, he's not feuding with Glenn Beck anymore.
jordan holmes
No, he's not.
dan friesen
They used to feud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course, because Glenn Black didn't know the truth back then.
Now he does.
dan friesen
But now everyone does.
jordan holmes
Everyone does.
dan friesen
And it's all about God, baby.
jordan holmes
It's always.
alex jones
There is no future if we don't stop this.
There's not who's the biggest talk show host and who's got the most money in the bank.
None of that means anything.
That might have meant something to people before.
All that matters is being good, having a relationship with God, and being able to protect yourself and your family into the future here.
Because we may not be able to save even a basic civilization.
We are approaching the point of no return right now.
And that's okay.
Because what this is really all about is our personal relationship with God and infinity.
Eternity.
And that's what matters.
dan friesen
I thought this was about the banks.
I thought this was about the new world order.
jordan holmes
When you're running Putin apologies.
And trying to get people onto the side of, it's cool for Putin to go into another country and murder everybody.
How's your personal relationship with God going on at the same time?
Is that good?
dan friesen
Strong.
jordan holmes
Is God like, man, you are crushing it?
dan friesen
It kind of feels like this might be a coward's refuge.
jordan holmes
I think it might.
I think it might be relying on religion to fill in the blanks for how terrible and cowardly he is.
But that's unusual for people to do.
dan friesen
I will admit that much of my early career was about how Rand Paul was great because he was going to reduce regulation.
He was going to audit the Fed.
jordan holmes
That's what it's all been about the whole time.
dan friesen
But really, that was about the devil.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Auditing the Fed was about the devil.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So anyway, play this next clip where he's sort of going deeper into these thoughts and just like...
Imagine if after 9-11 he spoke like this.
Imagine how non-career he would have.
He would not have a fucking career if he didn't wait until he'd already sucked a bunch of people in to start with this shit.
alex jones
Now the Bible tells us before the simulation ends, and it's a three-dimensional real simulation.
jordan holmes
Explain to me where the Bible says simulation.
alex jones
A real universe-wide system.
We don't know if the simulation ends next month or in a thousand years or a trillion years, but God gives us a pretty good idea about it.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
When the simulation's done, God rolls up the universe like a scroll, and then we jump into eternity.
unidentified
That's not in the book!
alex jones
And who knows if our memories will be wiped or what, but the point is, is...
That's what this is, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
No career.
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
No career.
You gotta suck people in with this fun international conspiracy and the Bush did 9-11.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This fun false flag stuff and mysteries that are terrestrial that you feel like you can solve.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like the nefarious influence of the Rothschilds and what have you.
And you have to make fun of people like David Icke who say that people are shape-shifting lizards.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, so you can differentiate yourself and make yourself look like you're...
I'm just about the solid, provable facts.
And then, once you've duped enough people into thinking you know anything about what you're talking about and your career is kind of falling apart, might as well just let it go and...
Start with your constant, insane religious rants.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, they don't start you out with Xenu on day one at Scientology.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
You gotta ease into that shit.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
No cult is like, hey, by the way, I'm gonna ask you to cut your arm off in a few years.
Check that out.
dan friesen
I think the cost of entry for InfoWars is cheaper.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Iodine is not cheap, but not as...
Not as expensive as some Scientology courses.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Also, I don't think Alex is interested in having blackmail on his listeners.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Let's see how desperate he gets.
dan friesen
I mean, this is lunatic stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Straight up.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who knows if God is going to wipe your memory?
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
What the fuck is the point of doing that?
If you believe the whole thing is a test, what's the point if God wipes your memory in the end of it?
dan friesen
Well, he only wipes your memory, not your ancestral memory.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Your race memory.
That doesn't make any sense!
Of course it doesn't.
It's because he's kind of making this stuff up and then giving it religious significance.
jordan holmes
Yep, sounds like it.
dan friesen
Which is what real cool, non-malicious narcissists do.
jordan holmes
Hey, the last time a sci-fi nerd got way too into religion, it went great.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex has the organizational capacity to pull a...
jordan holmes
That's true.
Couldn't do the L. Ron Hubbard.
dan friesen
No, couldn't pull a Hubbard.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
He's got a boat.
He could probably get some people out into the international waters.
unidentified
It's not a big enough boat.
dan friesen
Not a big enough boat.
So, look, Alex has had people come to him much like the HHS and offer him money.
And I have some follow-up questions about some of this stuff.
alex jones
Because it's pathetic.
I mean, good job, Blaze.
They do not come to Blaze and offer him money to push the vaccine.
They do not come here to offer money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that was hard.
alex jones
You're not going to give me money and then get anything you want.
You don't put quarters in Alex Jones and then get back out of it what you put in.
dan friesen
Smash cut to him doing a MyPillow ad.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But really, the follow-up questions I have have to do with this.
alex jones
Last time I got offered a bunch of money was three years ago.
jordan holmes
Reset Wars.
What?
Oh, sorry.
dan friesen
That wasn't a bunch.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
I've been offered money by governments, and I went to the FBI over it.
That's how the real world works, folks.
And you're looking at the guy.
I'm not bragging.
I'm just telling you.
You're looking at the guy that can't be bought.
Right here.
Looking for it?
dan friesen
Except by pillows.
alex jones
Right here.
This is the real thing.
This is the real McCoy.
Warts and all.
You got it right here.
And I know you're just like me.
dan friesen
Okay, so three years ago, Alex had a government try and give him a bunch of money, and he went to the FBI about it.
What government was that, Alex?
jordan holmes
Um, ooh, boy.
You know, there's one government I know specifically who's really into that kind of thing.
dan friesen
No, I don't think this happened.
jordan holmes
No, of course it did.
dan friesen
What government are you trying to pretend it was?
jordan holmes
I'm assuming he's...
Trying to pretend that Russia tried to give him a bunch of money.
dan friesen
I think that's probably the implication.
jordan holmes
And what I would assume is more like, if this is true, that he went to the FBI.
That's the part that I would...
dan friesen
Well, I don't think it's the U.S. government because he went to the FBI.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I would imagine that what really happened is somebody...
Faked being from a Russian spy service.
dan friesen
Oh, I could see a troll.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Send him, like, hey, we'll give you $10 trillion if you say blah, blah, blah.
And he was like, I gotta go to the FBI!
dan friesen
I also don't believe you went to the FBI.
jordan holmes
It's at DR119994678.
He's like, that's definitely from the...
dan friesen
It's strange.
I mean, like, I don't know how much I believe...
Actually, I kind of think that there's a possibility that there might have been some, like...
Like with the HHS stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe there was a buying interest in like RT or one of these things to buy advertising on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I could see that being the case.
jordan holmes
All of that's possible.
dan friesen
I don't think that Alex would describe it like this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, I just think that when you say something like this, I think you're required to follow up with details.
Because to not do that leaves me to believe, first of all, you're lying.
And second of all, if you're not lying, you're covering up what government it is because you know that it'll make your coverage look bad.
jordan holmes
Won't look good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you say, Russia tried to give me a bunch of money.
Surprise!
I'm really pro-Putin.
It's weird.
dan friesen
And look, I'm doing it for free.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
I would never take money to be pro-Putin.
dan friesen
I told Putin to save his money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I want him to have it.
dan friesen
I think that it raises more suspicions to say, Nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then to explain what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
Because it's not going to be like Luxembourg offered him 10 grand.
dan friesen
Luxembourg, France?
jordan holmes
Yeah, Luxembourg, France.
They're not offering him 10 grand.
dan friesen
No.
So Alex gets back to his wacky religious stuff here.
And I want to tell you that this sentence starts with one of the best Alex Jones sentence starting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He wants to explain what the theologians are wrong about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Which ones?
unidentified
All of them.
jordan holmes
All of them.
Gotcha.
alex jones
If anything has been gotten wrong by the theologians and the culture and the rest of it, is that the next level, you just sit there and play a harp and everything's just happy and total perfection.
If you choose to be in that presence and be complete, you can choose to stay there and be complete in God's presence.
You can choose to stay at that level of absolute connection to infinity.
And true attainment.
Or you can go to places.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
What places?
alex jones
Outside of the consciousness of God.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make any sense.
alex jones
Satan is attempting to make one of those places at this level.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Those places have been constructed.
And those places exist.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And I can tell you, my friends, I've been beyond Satan.
dan friesen
No career if he was talking like this earlier in his career.
jordan holmes
Absolutely fucking nuts.
dan friesen
Thrown to the fucking trash bin if he was talking like this.
jordan holmes
Why isn't anybody throwing things at him to get him to stop?
Stop doing this!
dan friesen
Well, because it's a Saturday show.
jordan holmes
How can you work for this man as he says, don't worry, Satan's trying to make his own evil universe outside of God's consciousness?
dan friesen
And I've been there, man.
jordan holmes
Fine!
dan friesen
I've been there.
I'm not sure what theologians Alex is referring to, but I suspect that it's just the illustrated children's Bible he reads out of with pictures of people playing harps.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be...
dan friesen
I'm gonna guess that's what's going on.
Look, this show's fucking stupid.
There are two possibilities here, and I think they're both trash.
The first is that Alex actually means the things he's saying in clips like that, and in that case, he should be hospitalized immediately.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
He's completely insane and detached from reality, rambling about how he's been beyond God's consciousness.
The other possibility is that he doesn't mean any of this, and he's just a dorky fucking child trying to impress his audience with these meaningless esoteric ramblings about how holy he is, and in that case, I think he probably should be hospitalized too, because it speaks to a level of narcissism that is dangerous.
I know I'm banging this drum quite a bit, but just try and imagine him thinking he could be taken seriously in 2003 talking like this.
His career would have been torpedoed.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you...
Listen.
Sometimes you don't necessarily need a boss, but you need somebody to check on your power.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Dude, I like what I was saying about how unbearable this show is because it doesn't have commercial breaks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You need something.
jordan holmes
Something.
You need something to check your bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't live in a situation where your narcissism can be let run wild.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because inevitably, I think when you have the tendencies of someone like Alex, you're just going to end up turning yourself into a trans-dimensional...
Pseudo-God, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, yeah.
That sounds fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's fun.
jordan holmes
It is fun, but you shouldn't do it on the radio.
dan friesen
No, especially when your whole shtick is that, like, you've proven everything you say.
jordan holmes
I'm right about everything I've seen.
dan friesen
There's a bumper that they used to play, and it was like, don't worry, everything we say is documented.
jordan holmes
Tomorrow's news today.
dan friesen
You documented that time you went past God's consciousness?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
He's got a...
Look, he framed...
It's a meme on his wall, buddy.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Where do you think you bring that back from?
A universe outside of God's knowledge.
dan friesen
Alex has a stamp in his passport from outside God's consciousness.
Fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Anyway, back to news stories, I guess.
jordan holmes
Just one of the seraphim at the fucking gates, just like, hey, all right, you bringing anything in from outside of God's consciousness?
dan friesen
Hey, look, it's still like...
jordan holmes
You got any fruits?
dan friesen
Vegetables?
Declare that shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you gotta...
dan friesen
There's still rules.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hey, come on.
This is it.
Just because we're in multiple dimensions doesn't mean we don't have rules.
dan friesen
So, back to news news.
jordan holmes
Yes, gotcha.
alex jones
Another video I want to play in a moment.
Bayer executive brags mRNA shots are gene therapy marketed as vaccines.
I'm going to hit this news and the rest of the story in a moment, but here's the clip of them bragging about it at the World Health Summit in the UN.
Here it is.
unidentified
Ultimately, the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy.
I always like to say, if we had surveyed two years ago in the public, would you be willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body, we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate.
I think this pandemic has also opened many people's eyes to innovation in a way that was maybe not possible before.
dan friesen
This was a guy named Stefan Ulrich giving a speech at the 2021 World Health Summit, and I think this clip really illustrates Alex's failure in terms of reading and listening comprehension.
The clip that Alex plays doesn't include Ulrich saying that the COVID vaccine is a gene therapy.
He's saying that the success of this mRNA vaccine should give people hope about the possibility for future gene or cell therapies.
Alex is just lying about what this guy is saying because what he's saying seems close enough for Alex to add false confidence.
can sell it to his audience, even though it's a lie.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's brazen.
dan friesen
Like, if you go to the InfoWars article about this, it includes this quote, which is one of the things that Ulrich said there, quote...
Quote, ultimately, the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell and gene therapy, which is meant to give the impression that Ulrich is saying that the COVID vaccines are example of cell and gene therapy.
But he's not.
If you watch the full speech, he's saying that the leap forward embodied by the mRNA vaccines are an example of how he hopes progress can be made on cell and gene therapies that Bayer is working on.
I see no way to describe this other than a complete intentional lie on Alex's part.
It's disgusting.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Such a shortcut taking prick.
jordan holmes
I mean, and it's a very good point.
It's hard to argue with the point that he's making, which is, like, tons of people would have been like, GMOs!
I'm gonna die!
Gene therapy!
And now you're like, eh, I'll try it.
unidentified
Fuck it.
dan friesen
But he's also not citing any kind of information that people are actually more willing to take cell or gene therapies.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So, like, that is only a thought he has.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe there's credence to the thought.
Maybe there's not.
But whatever the case, Alex is taking this and just fucking lying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Not good.
dan friesen
This next clip actually kind of made me chuckle.
alex jones
Let's look at an article that links directly to the documents.
It's out of Stat News.
Big statistical site.
jordan holmes
Stat News.
alex jones
And this article was out a long time ago, but it's been republished.
And it goes into how...
Lavishly funded Moderna by Bill Gates and the Defense Department hit safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine.
dan friesen
Stat News is not a site about statistics.
It's a site that focuses on healthcare-related stories, and the name is a reference to how doctors say they need something stat, which is short for the Latin word statum.
Alex finds it intolerable to not be able to take every opportunity to present himself as the guy who knows everything, so he can't really resist just making stuff up to make himself seem smarter, even though if you know anything about what he's talking about, it just makes him look like more of a desperate idiot.
This article that Alex is referencing is from January 2017, and it's his attempt to illustrate that mRNA vaccines were never able to get approved because they killed everyone in the trials.
Here's a little clip of him talking about that article.
alex jones
And it goes into how they set all this up and how they developed these systems, but how they had so many problems in trials with them having bad results or killing people that Moderna was in trouble.
You gotta go read this whole article, lavishly funded Moderna.
Hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine.
That's from Yahoo News.
dan friesen
Stat News.
alex jones
And it goes on to say, but mRNA is a tricky technology.
Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.
Nasty.
dan friesen
The essential problem here is that Alex is once again making things up.
This is about how an mRNA product that Moderna was working on for Kriegler-Najjar syndrome, a rare condition affecting the liver, it wasn't working, and it had run into troubles in animal testing.
Alex has said multiple times on this episode that it made people's livers liquefy, but this article is really specific that the drug never made it to human trials.
I think he's just making that part up because he saw the word liver in the description of Krigler Najjar, and he just wrote his own story about it.
It's making water livers.
Because of the difficulty with this particular treatment, this article explains that Moderna was shifting its focus into four vaccines for, quote, two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret.
There may have been some trials for prospective medications that used mRNA technology that resulted in some side effects you might say are nasty, but the same is true of many different medication types that are in trials.
jordan holmes
That's why they do trials.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Plus, you can find plenty of examples of pre-COVID mRNA studies that don't show horrific side effects like Alex is trying to imply was always the case.
It just is arguments shit.
But this article is actually, it is very interesting, but it's not really about...
The negative side effects being a problem for Moderna, and more of it just being like, their company seems like it's run by an asshole.
That seems to be a lot of what the thrust of this article is.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's probably true.
dan friesen
So true to form, Alex does get back to talking about liquid livers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
You know, maybe I should just read this whole article on air.
jordan holmes
Do it.
I dare you.
alex jones
It's just incredible.
jordan holmes
Stat News.
unidentified
Yahoo.
alex jones
And the whistleblowers.
And other times, they had whistleblowers come out of these companies, and they'd have to stop it.
And the biggest thing it does, if you read the articles that are linked from this, that's what I did, is it eats the liver.
The biggest problem is when they try to cure cancer and stuff.
jordan holmes
Eating livers.
alex jones
They've got mRNA technology that will literally kill cancer, but then six months later, your liver liquefies.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So Alex is bringing up the liquid livers.
There are five articles that are linked in the Stat News article.
One is about the other Zika vaccine candidates that are coming into trials that are in competition with Moderna's.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
One of them is about how the CEO of Moderna seems like a dick, and he's lost some top talent because he's a dick.
jordan holmes
Because he's an asshole.
dan friesen
Another is an interview with that CEO in Forbes.
The fourth is a CB Insights article about Moderna's valuation.
And the last one is the closest to what Alex is talking about, which is an editorial in Nature that's pretty negative about Moderna's.
jordan holmes
It's not.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
The problem is that that article is about how Moderna wasn't publishing information about their research, so no one really could evaluate what they were doing, or they couldn't It's about liquefying your company.
So here's what the article says in relation to livers.
Quote, patients with Kriegler-Najjar are missing a key liver enzyme needed to break down bilirubin, a yellowish substance that crops up in the body as old red blood cells break down.
Without that enzyme, bilirubin proliferates in the blood, leading to jaundice, muscle degeneration, and even brain damage.
Yet Moderna could not make its therapy work, former employees and collaborators say.
The safe dose was too weak, and repeat injections of a dose strong enough to be effective had troubling effects on the liver in animal studies.
The rest of Alex's entire presentation is just completely made up, which is why he's never going to read the entire article when he says he should, because he knows he's a liar, and the information that he'd end up reading wouldn't satisfy.
And why do that?
If he read the article, he would just have to editorialize and say a bunch of shit pretending it's in the article.
Why not skip that step and just make shit up anyway?
jordan holmes
I mean, we've seen him read things that actively counter what it is he was just saying, continue talking as though it didn't, and then add it in.
dan friesen
It's still from the article that he's reading.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if he does say something that disagrees with him, he's like, and that's how you know they're lying.
You're like, what are you fucking doing?
dan friesen
It's a real piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And listen to this clip.
Here's another instance of Alex being a total, total piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
My father, who I love a lot, almost died from Delta.
My mother was the sickest she's ever been.
Rob Dew almost died.
He's still seriously sick from what he went through.
I had other family that died.
I felt like I had a thousand pound gorilla sitting on my chest for two weeks.
Didn't make a big issue out of it at the time.
I was on air with it.
dan friesen
You came on air.
You came to studio for two weeks without a mask.
Everybody around you, you're saying, got really sick and Rob Do is still dealing with the side effects.
You are, I would say, a central hub in the middle of all of these other data points.
I, too, if I were Alex, would probably invest a lot of emotional attention into trying to talk about how this was a bioweapon plan foisted upon us by the globalists, because the alternative is recognizing that his stubbornness and inability to be careful and take things seriously could have, in effect, gotten everyone around him sick, and everybody that he cares about almost dying.
And that would be probably pretty difficult to emotionally handle, so I would probably retreat into bullshit conspiracies, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I heard that...
And I worked at Infowars.
dan friesen
I'd sue him.
jordan holmes
I would sue the shit out of him instantly.
I would be like, oh, goodbye.
I have a massive lawsuit.
Guess what?
I'm another person who's joined the globalists trying to send you a fucking message, which is quit, you piece of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, because this is Alex saying that he knowingly...
jordan holmes
He knowingly infected everybody.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
That is...
I mean, you can't...
dan friesen
At very least, this is a...
jordan holmes
Your literal employer can't give you a disease on purpose.
dan friesen
It's an unsafe working environment that...
I'm fairly certain you could at least get in some trouble.
jordan holmes
Did he disclose it to his employees the moment he walked in the office without his fucking mask on?
dan friesen
I don't think so, because I would assume that at least some of them would fucking leave.
Yeah.
I know that at least some of the people who work at InfoWars are probably...
You know, on board with everything and zealots like him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I don't think everybody is.
jordan holmes
At least a few just have to be like, this is a gig.
dan friesen
It's a gig.
jordan holmes
It's a gig.
I'm not going to die.
dan friesen
My name's not on anything.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to die for InfoWars.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
I would encourage anybody who works at InfoWars or worked...
jordan holmes
Sue the shit out of him after listening to that clip.
dan friesen
Explore a potential worker abuse lawsuit.
jordan holmes
I would fucking sue him if I was his dad!
You almost killed me, you dick!
dan friesen
But he loves him a lot.
jordan holmes
Eh, well, I wonder how much now.
dan friesen
So, Alex not only loves his dad, he also now loves Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Why not?
dan friesen
This is sad.
alex jones
Glenn Beck is the biggest show we've got that's getting deeply into the Great Reset and the New World Order.
Rogan's bigger, but he's only getting into some of it.
He's starting to really get it.
Because Joe wants to know something frontwards and backwards before he covers it.
Carlson's hitting it some, and that's good.
But I keep obsessing on Glenn Beck because...
jordan holmes
Because?
alex jones
I mean, if Glenn Beck gets really good and fully awake, I'm going to hand him a Tondo and I'm out of here, man.
I just...
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
And it's not even that...
It's not even that I don't want to be here and be on air anymore.
jordan holmes
Which you don't.
alex jones
I just feel like it's time for other people to stand up and fight this.
dan friesen
Yeah, please.
Please.
Let Glenn Beck be your spiritual successor, you dumb prick.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Wait for him to take over the mantle for Alex and then within a year apologize for everything and then try and get on Trevor Noah's show.
jordan holmes
So sorry.
dan friesen
We have his image.
jordan holmes
I'm apologizing.
And then five years after that going right back to it.
dan friesen
And then Mark Levin pulls out or something like that and then all the funding goes away for the blaze and then he, oh, I don't know, he has to fire Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder and then the fun right turns against him and oh no, he's crying.
jordan holmes
This is so embarrassing.
dan friesen
Pulls out a chalkboard because it's his only friend that's left.
Also, let's imagine how fucking quickly this whole thing falls apart if he hands the baton to Owen.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
But it does answer a question that we've had for a long time, and that is, who does he feel is his heir apparent?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And obviously, now we know that it's Owen.
jordan holmes
Someone older than him.
unidentified
Owen, well, spiritually, it's Glenn Beck.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Infowars, Owen would take over.
jordan holmes
It's the only thing he's got.
dan friesen
Infowars goes out of business.
jordan holmes
Six weeks?
dan friesen
I was going to say six months, but I was going to be very generous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say six weeks.
dan friesen
I would say six months if the reserves are decent.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
I mean, just imagine the day one, or no, the week one revenue drop would be staggering.
Because we already know.
dan friesen
No, week two.
Because I think there would be some shiny new car kind of feel.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like the grand opening kind of thing for Owen's first week.
And then everyone's like, oh, no.
jordan holmes
Well, we already know.
Whenever it's not Alex, and we don't need any special information for this, when it's not Alex, they're not selling shit.
dan friesen
No, and the numbers you can even see on Bandai video drop dramatically from Alex's shows to the other shows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's no interest among radio stations to syndicate Owen's war room, nor is there any interest in the American Journal.
The reach that you'd have would drop so fucking hard.
Owen doesn't have any real handle on...
Some of the stuff that gives Alex plausible deniability, which is the historical tradition of anti-communism and these far-right people.
Alex was baked in that world.
He came out of that from the John Birch Society, and because of that, he can rattle off all kinds of nonsense about Cecil Rhodes and what have you that make you think that he knows this shit backwards and forwards.
Owen doesn't.
He can yell at people he thinks are cucks.
He can do.
jordan holmes
It is so weird to say this, but Owen is just too shallow.
unidentified
Compared to the most shallow man I can think of.
dan friesen
It appears to not be.
There's a presentation of something.
Can you fucking imagine Owen trying to get on the show and doing that I've been beyond God's consciousness nonsense?
Get the fuck out of here.
You wouldn't be able to intrigue the audience at all in the...
Dumb shit that Alex does.
It's a recipe for disaster, but I think it's fucking hilarious that Alex thinks that the thing that'll be like, okay, now I can retire is if Glenn Beck is doing a good enough job.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Tell that to yourself in 2009, you dumb asshole.
jordan holmes
Tell that to yourself honestly now.
Look in the mirror and say, like, I just want Alex to really look in the mirror one time and just be like...
Glenn Beck is who I want to be.
dan friesen
Glenn Beck will finish my work.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Carrying my standard into the future.
Crying Glenn Beck with his dumb chalkboard.
dan friesen
One guy who's a steady hand.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
No, the only way they work is to completely change.
If Alex leaves, InfoWars has to be like, okay.
We have to distance ourselves from Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
That's the only way.
dan friesen
But I don't think there's any real space in the market for that.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I think their funding goes away, and so the one thing that makes them special also goes away, which is the high production value and the appearance that's similar enough to an actual news station.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's gone, and without that crutch, I don't think anyone cares about a web show that Harrison Smith does, or Owen.
jordan holmes
It's Harrison Smith alone in his room with a painting that isn't hung up, buddy.
dan friesen
What kind of audience decrease did David Knight experience when he left and started doing his own videos on TikTok or whatever the fuck he's on, on Rumble?
That will be all of their futures, and Glenn Beck is...
I mean, he's just a dick who goes wherever the money is, and the money is in this extremist nonsense that's similar to Alex right now, so he appears to be...
On the exact same page and like, oh, Alex, you woke me up or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
He thought the money was in a different area five years ago, so he tried to go there.
dan friesen
And as soon as this tide changes, if it changes, he'll be back to being like, you know who's great?
Mitt Romney.
jordan holmes
You got it.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I was never on board with all those extremists.
dan friesen
Actually, I was, and I'd like to apologize.
jordan holmes
I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
I'd like to do a big press campaign where I apologize.
jordan holmes
These other people won't apologize.
They won't ever admit they're wrong.
I'll admit I'm wrong twice, and then I'll do it again.
dan friesen
And what I think this speaks to is Alex's real actual desperation to not do this anymore.
jordan holmes
I can't believe so many people still work there.
The writing's on the wall, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm trying to kill all of you by giving you COVID.
jordan holmes
And he's literally trying to kill you!
dan friesen
And I want to leave.
jordan holmes
I want to quit.
dan friesen
I hate this.
Wow.
So, over the weekend, there was an interview, or maybe at the end of last week, an interview that Melinda Gates did on...
I can't remember what show it was on, but she talked about how evil Epstein is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so now Alex is really excited about this.
jordan holmes
My ex-husband's buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hate that guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
jordan holmes
He's a real piece of shit.
dan friesen
That is what her interview was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
dan friesen
So Alex is really excited about this.
jordan holmes
Right on time, lady.
dan friesen
He thinks that, you know, you gotta give her the...
doubt.
unidentified
She's probably a really great person.
jordan holmes
I hate everyone.
alex jones
And I said, she's distancing herself and they are splitting off the foundation and they're putting, and so Dr. McCullough said this, Mercullough, not McCullough, his halo of being the angel and buying off the media and paying billions a year to control the press in medical news and to underwrite ABC News, NBC News, CNN, MSNBC, you name it.
But they're moving the halo to her.
But I said, if she comes out and actually attacks him and says Jeffrey Epstein is evil and says Jeffrey Epstein is a molester and says this is part of a satanic system, then she's not part of it.
And we shouldn't say she's evil if she comes out fully and attacks Gates for being part of Epstein and admits that's part of the reason she left him.
And she did it last week on CBS News.
So people need to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Because we've never gotten information that she's a eugenicist.
We've never gotten information she's a child molester.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So, I think it's really nice that Alex is giving Melinda Gates the benefit of the doubt.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
Hold on, hold on.
I have this vague memory of something that Alex said in the past.
jordan holmes
What do you think he said?
alex jones
I have been threatened specifically to shut my mouth about Bill Gates.
His wife two years ago in Germany said, those of you...
Out there claiming we're running a worldwide eugenics extermination program.
Better watch it.
If you don't shut your mouth, people are going to start dying.
And the news went, does she mean we're stopping her from saving people?
No.
It was a public death threat.
dan friesen
All right, fine.
jordan holmes
So we have no evidence.
dan friesen
Fine, fine, fine.
But you still got to give her the benefit of the doubt.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
What's a little public death threat, really?
It's no big deal.
Hold on.
I'm having another memory.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Bill Gates' wife last year gave a speech in Germany.
She said, if you don't stop talking about this, those of you conspiracy theorists saying we're trying to reduce population, we're going to, a lot of people are going to die.
People, then the word went out, well, didn't you get that threat?
Like, oh, I got the threat.
You didn't, what you just think, like, we don't know how dangerous it is to go up against you.
Oh, my God, you threatened us.
Oh, my gosh, I'm going to run away scared now.
They think we're stupid.
They keep going, shell out to us, back off, or we'll get you.
And it's like...
Sell out to killing everybody?
Sell out to jumping in bed with a bunch of demons?
Hell no.
dan friesen
Alex seems to have really taken that death threat he's pretending happened pretty seriously, but this is also a little unnerving.
Turns out that Melinda Gates is a demon, according to Alex in the past.
But I mean, that's still kind of vague, you know?
He's really talking about a group of demons, so maybe he meant that she was like a really cool person who was making death threats on behalf of a group of demons.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Hold on, I'm having another memory.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
dan friesen
Oh no.
alex jones
But something very interesting happened that really crystallized a lot of things, and I was so busy, I didn't notice this happened five days ago.
Melinda Gates went on today, one of the big morning shows, wearing an upside-down cross.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Now, Snopes says, well, we don't know it's satanic.
jordan holmes
Give her the benefit of the doubt.
alex jones
That doesn't mean affiliation with the Church of Satan, because they supposedly are the authority, so Snopes checked with them.
And they said, is she a Satanist?
I'm not kidding.
And they went, oh, well, an upside-down cross isn't necessarily affiliated with us.
And we've blown it up.
We're going to show you some shots of that coming up in the last segment of this hour.
And it is an upside-down cross.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Clear as day with a ring of rubies around it, like a corona.
And I actually said, you know, I've seen that symbol before, and I went and did some research, and I sent it over to the producer this morning, but that producer is off today, so I didn't see it in my full stack, but I'm going to resend it to the new producer, and I'm going to show you actually where that symbol comes from.
I said, where have I seen an upside-down cross with a red corona around it?
And where I thought I'd seen it, I'd seen it.
Very horrible sign.
Symbolizes the death of the sun.
So it's beyond the pentagram.
It's about as satanic as you can get.
dan friesen
Alex is such a fucking idiot.
Nothing means anything on this show because he's just making things up to suit whatever is convenient for him in the moment.
Melinda Gates is presumably happily married to Bill, and she's a part of the demonic cabal and is maybe the worst of them all, but with that threatening Alex's life publicly and wearing that jewelry.
That's a great fun game that only gets disrupted when she's getting divorced from Bill and is critical of his association with Epstein, and now two of your narratives are running into each other in a way that shouldn't be happening if your worldview means anything.
Oh, what do you do then?
It's simple.
You just pretend that you never said all the stuff you said in the past.
No evidence that she's all evil and what have you?
jordan holmes
Never seen any evidence that she's...
dan friesen
Except for that whole show that he did in May 2020 about how her necklace is a deep satanic message that she was putting out on the Today Show.
jordan holmes
Well, sure.
Fucking stupid.
I mean, yeah.
That happened.
And sure, she was married to Bill for a long time.
And sure, she's been heavily involved in the Gates Foundation for a long time.
And sure, those things are fundamentally working for the devil.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But we don't know that she wanted to work for the devil, man.
Maybe she was being held captive by the billions of dollars that she had.
You know?
dan friesen
Maybe someone forced her to wear that upside down cross on the Today Show.
jordan holmes
Maybe Bill was keeping her in like a Scrooge McDuck tower of gold.
dan friesen
Alright, I just thought that was stupid.
jordan holmes
That's very stupid.
dan friesen
It's fun, because what he's trying to do is he's trying to rehab her image, because the narrative now is like, hey, if people are trying to defect over to the Patriot side, let's give them a chance to.
jordan holmes
Give them everything that they can.
dan friesen
So the storyline is going to be that she's trying to become like Alex.
jordan holmes
I've never seen anything.
dan friesen
So dumb.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex does, I will say, surprisingly few ads on this episode, but he does one, and this is two minutes long, but this is a sales pitch where he's legitimately just describing a bad business model.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I'm in a catch-22, and I've tried to explain this.
We can sell enough Winter Sun and enough Rain Force Ultra, And enough X2 and X3 to fund our operation and stay the same size and fight off the Democrat lawsuits and the harassment and the dirty tricks.
If we could get these products in stock.
But they're routinely sold out on average more than six months.
And here's the catch-22.
When I sell them at full price, we would be able to fund everything.
In fact, I could probably do it at 25% off.
We've done the math.
25% off barely.
People are habituated where I always sell stuff at 30, 40, 50% off, so people wait until that happens.
Then I sell out of it quicker, but don't make enough money back because there's not a lot of markup in these.
jordan holmes
Should you be explaining this to me?
alex jones
There's such high-quality stuff that's in them.
I won't adulterate.
I won't cut the quality.
So a lot of our best brands are now not available anymore.
We have to discontinue because you just can't get the products anymore.
The products we can get...
The price has gone up.
The supply chain's broken down.
I don't want to go up in price.
And if I discount it, people buy it.
If I don't discount it, people don't buy it.
So, like, two weeks ago, I go, well, I'm going to stop offering stuff at 50% off.
But then I talk to the accountant, and they go, well, you really need to move all this at 50% off just to be able to get money in to be able to buy more that's coming in in 15, 20 weeks.
And so we're doing this math and stuff, trying to figure out what we do.
So I'm going to tell you, I'm just going to make the decision right now.
We're going to sell down to just a few thousand bottles of each, or a few hundred bottles of each, of all these products, and then henceforth, the biggest sell we're going to do on these is 25% off.
Because again, supply chain breakdown, all of it.
jordan holmes
Good luck.
alex jones
And cost of goods going up, we cannot discount at 40 or 50% off anymore.
dan friesen
He said that, like, over and over again, like a year ago.
unidentified
For 10 years.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But this is like, if I hear this stuff, I'm just like, I'm going to look for my stuff elsewhere.
This is not, this doesn't inspire confidence.
jordan holmes
It's not a catch-22.
Your options are both failing.
That's not a catch-22.
That's just you're going to fail.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
If you do this, you fail.
And if you do that, you fail.
dan friesen
If this description of what's going on with his business is in any way accurate, it's like...
jordan holmes
Then you're going out of business.
dan friesen
It's just inevitable.
Eventually, long enough time frame, you're going to bleed yourself dry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if I were an investor listening to that, I would be like, this is a failure.
I would not want to get involved with this.
Owen, do you want to take over a failing business?
jordan holmes
Just so you know.
And I want to say this to any future investors or anybody who wants to buy our products.
We are going out of business.
dan friesen
Well, we shot ourselves in the foot because we do these ridiculous sales in order to have a money bomb, if you will.
A flash of money come in.
And we've gotten to the point where...
I think people recognize that our products are fine, but they're certainly not worth paying more than 40% off for, and so they wait around, and they know eventually I'll give in and do those sales, and so we can't make enough money to do it.
We're doing good.
jordan holmes
Listen, I just want to tell you that this business operates in the red, and it will never not do that.
So if you want a business...
That you continually have to put money into that you will never get back.
dan friesen
It could operate out of the red.
jordan holmes
I've got a business for you.
dan friesen
It could operate out of the red if Alex could sell these things for 10% off, but the audience won't buy them for that.
jordan holmes
See, that's not a catch-22.
That's a failure.
dan friesen
And I don't know if it's necessarily a function of the audience getting used to him having these sales as much as it is.
jordan holmes
That's how much it should cost.
dan friesen
They don't want to pay 10% off prices for it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That doesn't...
jordan holmes
They can get it cheaper elsewhere.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
A lot cheaper.
dan friesen
Maybe they would pay a little bit more to buy it from Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But not a lot more.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're fucked.
jordan holmes
You're fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that's your own fault.
dan friesen
Good ad pitch, though.
So Alex starts talking some more about the Russia-Ukraine situation.
Great.
jordan holmes
His opinions are always smart.
dan friesen
They're so good.
Yeah.
Back in the Trump days, people would talk about Alex being a Russian agent quite a bit.
And so Alex decided back then he was going to go to Russia to troll people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex says something that's a little bit of a revelation in terms of this.
alex jones
I was going to go to Russia four years ago and do interviews and live feeds and get massive viewers and pull a stunt.
And when I put out my passport on Twitter, they said, look, he's a Russian agent.
And they had Democrats up on the Hill say, we should investigate Alex Jones.
He's got a Russian visa.
dan friesen
Real quick, that was a fake visa.
Alex trying to pretend that was a real passport.
It was not.
alex jones
Which anybody could get if you're in the media.
I want to go over there.
They called Tucker Carlson a Russian agent for wanting an interview with Vladimir Putin, but everybody else can interview Vladimir Putin from the New York Times or CNN, but he can't at Fox News.
It's how they handicap everybody where you can't even...
By the way, I had the Russian media through RT, we sent them emails saying, yes...
If you want to fly to these mountains, maybe on this date, he'll have a press junket, and you might get one question in while he's hunting.
We weren't going to go interview Putin.
I'm not going to go do that to maybe get one question into Putin.
I'm sure it'd be some cool mountain in the Urals while he's hunting God knows what, but no, I didn't go to that.
But I didn't want to go to Russia to be a Russian agent.
I wanted to go to Russia because I want to go to Egypt.
I want to go to Israel.
I want to go to Japan.
I want to go to Easter Island.
I want to go to Alaska!
I've never been to Alaska!
dan friesen
If Alex keeps supporting Putin the way he is, he might be able to visit Alaska and Russia at the same time.
Also, stay the fuck out of Easter Island, you asshole.
jordan holmes
No, that's Dan's place.
You can't run Dan's Holy Island.
dan friesen
The thing, though, too, is that I think Alex might be making too little of this notion of being offered...
To ask Putin a question at some mountain resort.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's kind of, uh, that's amazing.
dan friesen
If true, that's a real kind of overture that's being made by the Russian media.
jordan holmes
If true, I really do feel like Alex would have gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I mean, he wants to, he would at least get to stand next to Putin and be like, hello?
dan friesen
Yeah, or associate yourself in some way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
He would kill to have a clip of him asking Putin a direct question and Putin responding.
dan friesen
What do you think about the globalists?
jordan holmes
Well done, Alex.
You're a good boy.
That's all he needed to hear.
dan friesen
Yeah.
When he was on a Russian TV show, he started crying when they talked about how he was a great example of American man.
jordan holmes
You're a good boy.
I am a good boy.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I almost killed my dad last year.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm conflicted about what to believe about this.
There's a part of me that thinks that maybe it fell through or something, and this is Alex's way of saying, like, I didn't want to go at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I never wanted to go in the first place.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Or he's making it up entirely, and this is how he makes it believable.
jordan holmes
Also possible.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
It is weird, though.
I mean, if you put this in context with other stories he's told about, like...
This weird background stuff with RT.
Possibly a government offering him a bunch of money three years ago.
jordan holmes
There's so many details.
dan friesen
Something sketchy here.
jordan holmes
Something absolutely sketchy is going on.
dan friesen
Either Alex is making up a whole lot of stuff, or there's some other details he needs to provide.
jordan holmes
And the fact that they continue to drop in weird ways.
Unrelated to necessarily what it is he's trying to say as almost like a little brag aside where you're like, you only do that whenever you are kind of proud of something.
Something's going on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know what to make of it, but it's weird.
jordan holmes
I don't know what it is.
dan friesen
So look, Alex doesn't like what's going on in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because it's bad.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's murder.
dan friesen
But...
jordan holmes
Wait, no, there's nobody.
alex jones
And what I see out of Ukraine...
Now that Russia has invaded, it's not good.
Ukraine has lied about the nuclear reactors saying they shelled it.
jordan holmes
That's what you're saying is not good?
alex jones
None of that was true.
There was no leak, no extra radiation.
The Snake Island massacre didn't happen.
The ghost of Kiev, it was all made up.
And almost everything coming out of Zelensky's mouth is a lie.
Now, I don't say that because I'm pro-Putin.
I say that because I'm pro-truth.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
jordan holmes
And I'm pro-Putin.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
I would say that this is not being weighed with the lies that Putin is telling.
jordan holmes
From what I'm seeing out of Ukraine, it's bad.
And the reason it's bad is because Zelensky did not tell the truth about how a nuclear reactor did not melt down.
It was just hit by large-scale ammunition.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to tell you.
That makes me think it's okay for Putin to go in there and murder millions of people.
I think that's totally fine.
dan friesen
Obviously, this is an act of justification.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Obviously, this is the way that this is being used.
But I think it's just an absolute coward's move to say that Zelensky and Ukraine are just total liars.
And then not discuss what lies are coming out of Putin.
Like, if you're going to pretend that you just care about the truth, then you need to give equal measure to both...
And the supposed lies that are coming out of each.
And if he were to do that, this would be a four-hour special report.
jordan holmes
And it would be a lot of Putin's lies.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he doesn't do that.
jordan holmes
No, he parrots Putin's lies, in fact.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the interest is in just branding the other side as liars.
jordan holmes
Ukraine's so, they're so lying.
dan friesen
It's in service of supporting Putin without having to stand up and actually make that your position, because Alex is a...
Fucking coward.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a liar.
jordan holmes
It would be so terrible if you stood up and said, I support Putin's war of aggression against a sovereign nation because I am thoroughly pro-Putin and I think he's going to murder my political enemies.
dan friesen
But I will say that Alex does kind of have a little bit of a criticism of Putin.
alex jones
I said this a week ago.
I said, looks like Putin's putting in his junior varsity, his conscripts, because they have a draft over there, using them as human targets to pull out...
The identities and emplacements for special forces of where the Ukrainian troops are so they can kill them.
And indeed, that's what happened.
That's a nasty tactic by Putin, sending in his greenest troops.
But it's a desperate tactic.
dan friesen
Alex didn't say that a week ago.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
He said that Putin had paid off the Ukrainian government and was going to get zero resistance trying to take the country.
And he also said that Zelensky was a double agent secretly working for Putin.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is complete horseshit, and the example of Alex trying to lie about his past positions in order to make himself sound like he knows what he's talking about, in hindsight.
Also, if that's what Alex really thinks Putin's doing, then I think it deserves a little bit more of a rebuke than what I'm hearing from Alex.
jordan holmes
Isn't that disqualifying?
dan friesen
It's kind of good.
He's giving them a little bit of a softball treatment.
jordan holmes
Alright, okay.
I think it's bad that Putin is sending children?
dan friesen
As human bait?
jordan holmes
Yes, and just putting them out there to die in order for him to kill more people.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Seems like kid gloves that Alex is doing here.
jordan holmes
That's bad tactics.
I don't have any problem with it morally.
It's a nasty tactic.
dan friesen
Yeah, and again, this is all in function of supporting Putin while having a cowardly shield over yourself of pretending that that's not what you're doing.
jordan holmes
It's just crazy to me, though, that you would have that cowardly shield and then still come off like a psychopath.
You know?
dan friesen
Well, but I think that if you're not engaging with what Alex is saying critically, it doesn't come off like a psychopath.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
He has the appearance and the delivery of someone who wants the passive listener and someone who's not engaging all that much to think like, well, he's looking at both sides.
He's looking at all the angles here.
And I think that he gets away with that with his audience.
But if you take the time to actually listen to what he's saying.
And ask yourself, like, why is he saying this?
What is the point of this?
You get such a clear picture of, like, this is all just Putin's support.
Like, here's a great example of this.
Like, why would he throw this narrative in to his conversation about the situation of Putin invading Ukraine?
alex jones
And so I don't want to be like the corporate media that says somebody said something and then not show it.
Let's play a new clip that I hadn't seen until now.
I'd read the writings of his foundation saying it, and Fiona Hill, but I'd never seen him say it, where he brags and calls Eastern Europe and the Caucasus and the Slavic nations that border Russia, his former Nazi happy hunting ground, where he helped round folks up with the Nazis, literally.
He calls it the Soros Empire.
Here it is.
george soros
When the Soviet Union, the Soviet Empire collapsed, and as the Empire collapsed, I moved in and picked up the pieces.
First in Hungary in 1984, and then Poland in 1987, China in 1987 as well.
And so this is how...
The Soros Empire.
Replacing the Soviet Empire.
unidentified
And how do you think you're doing in your imperial ambitions?
alex jones
So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
There you go.
Let's play that clip one more time.
Just so everybody gets it very clear and has it on record, so you can share it and get it out there to folks.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Play it twice.
jordan holmes
And this time, let's edit out the laughter so it doesn't sound like he's very obviously making a joke.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's so clear that's a joke.
jordan holmes
I mean, that could not be more obviously a joke.
dan friesen
Well, I guess he thinks he's the Archduke of the Empire.
jordan holmes
I mean, come on.
dan friesen
Ask yourself, though, Jordan, what is the point of playing that clip in the middle of a conversation about Putin invading Ukraine?
The only possible point you could be making is that Putin is justified and correct to invade.
There's no other interpretation you can find in the context of Infowars.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's not trying to overthrow Ukraine.
He's trying to overthrow the Soros Empire.
dan friesen
He's trying to right the wrongs of Soros' meddling.
jordan holmes
Because he's a Nazi.
dan friesen
Simultaneously, he's trying to get back these bioweapon labs that the United States is using to create COVID-2023 or whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, the funniest part about this is...
Right now, he's so cowardly in trying to couch this differently.
I think he's going to wind up talking himself into being like, I think Putin's 100% justified here.
dan friesen
I think once he has cover to do it, he will.
jordan holmes
I think he will for sure.
dan friesen
I would not be surprised.
Also, it's weird that the clip just ends.
You can tell by where it was cut off.
This is something Alex just found on social media.
It's a 42-second clip that's going around, being posted by weird Twitter accounts that seem to be making the argument that Putin isn't wrong to have invaded Ukraine because Soros is agitating.
This is from a 2015 chat he gave at the Asia Society.
The full video is up on their website, and if you want to, you can go watch it.
It's clear, if you do, that Soros is talking about funding organizations that worked to promote democracy in formerly undemocratic countries.
That's the whole point of the chat, and Alex would know that.
He's taking this clip out of context if he didn't just get this little snippet from Twitter and decide to report on it like he knows what he's talking about.
And again, there's no reason to introduce this out-of-context clip into the conversation unless you're trying to support Putin.
There's no other function for it whatsoever.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking more about...
Soros.
It becomes like a really long Soros complaint session.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
And unfortunately, because of that...
I actually realize that I don't agree with Alex about something that I thought we were in agreement about.
There were very few things that I thought we had like common cause.
jordan holmes
Civil asset forfeiture.
dan friesen
Well, that one still might be in play.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It turns out I don't agree with him about drugs.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
alex jones
And he means it.
And he has a list of things.
Transgenderism to sterilize the boys.
Fluoride in the water.
Weaponized marijuana on the streets.
Drug legalization.
Not because he wants to help people.
Because I think we should decriminalize drugs.
We should not legalize them.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Don't put people in prison for being on heroin or cocaine.
jordan holmes
Then...
alex jones
But don't legalize it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
So people get addicted to it.
You just penalize the dealers.
You don't penalize the users.
But Soros wants it all legalized, so you're so blown and blasted out of your brain, you don't know who you are.
dan friesen
That's an incoherent position, and I would say that it's really counter to his fake libertarian ideology that he likes to protect.
jordan holmes
Don't legalize drugs.
Penalize drugs.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, yeah.
So it's like, don't legalize it.
Decriminalize it.
Except if you have enough that the government can make an argument that you're dealing it.
And then it's still criminal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just think it's by degrees still just...
jordan holmes
It's the same thing.
dan friesen
Exactly.
This is a meaningless difference that he's suggesting.
And I think it's dumb.
And I actually kind of...
I don't want to say my heart breaks, but like...
It does bum me out when there are things that I'm like, well, at least he's on the right side of this.
At least we can find some agreement that the criminalization and illegalization of drugs, the drug war itself, is a stupid waste of resources that has been used to destroy communities.
But it's not.
That's not his position.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
Nope, he wants to criminalize black people for being.
dan friesen
Well, like, think about what the intent-to-distribute laws have been traditionally.
jordan holmes
They have only been used for good!
dan friesen
Well, but also, like, what's the line between personal use and intent-to-distribute?
It's arbitrary.
jordan holmes
It's just, I mean, 10 grams.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Or 20 grams.
dan friesen
A friend of mine...
jordan holmes
A kilogram!
dan friesen
A friend of mine back in...
Back when we were like...
18, 19, or something.
He bought a trash bag full of weed one time, and he did not intend to distribute it.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
That was for personal use.
jordan holmes
That was a good weekend.
That was to be a fun time.
dan friesen
It was in a trash bag.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that it's so transparent to anybody who has any experience with drugs, or anybody who's thought about this for a while, that...
The position that Alex is advocating for is lip service towards caring about drug use and solving that problem.
In reality, it wouldn't solve anything.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
He's an idiot.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't even reduce things.
It'd just be used differently.
Because the point is slaves.
dan friesen
But also, not to gloss over the transphobia that was inherited in that clip as well.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
Of course.
dan friesen
Fuck that noise.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But Soros, Soros is just, he's got all these things that he's trying to destroy the world with.
alex jones
And he's put thousands of DAs and more than 20 attorney generals in power.
And if you're a conservative and you've had two beers, you're getting the book thrown at you for DWI.
You're going to go to prison for a couple years.
But if you're a Black Lives Matter person that shoots five people and kills them, you're out in a week.
dan friesen
I'd be interested to see if Alex could come up with any Black Lives Matter person who got away with murder because of a Soros district attorney.
On the flip side, Alex is actually an interesting counterpoint to his own argument, seeing as that he got a DUI last year and he didn't go to jail.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
The whole thing digging into Soros when he was setting out to have a conversation about Ukraine and Russia is super telling.
This is the most cowardly, weaselly way for him to support Putin without having to get his hands dirty by pretending he's talking about Soros, his longtime enemy.
It's just utterly weak shit from this asshole.
And he should have stayed on vacation.
Forever.
I told you, maybe it was before we started recording, or maybe it was at the beginning of the episode, I can't remember, but I lost patience with this episode, and we're coming to the point where I just lost all interest in this.
It's such a trash show.
It needs commercial breaks.
jordan holmes
There's just not a centrist position for a war.
If you are pulling this bullshit...
About there being like a both sides argument for Putin invading Ukraine, then you're fucking dumb.
You're just running interference.
So you're pro-Putin.
That's it.
dan friesen
I think that you can have critiques and concerns about ways that Ukraine may be carrying out the defense of their own country.
jordan holmes
Tons!
You can do all kinds of things.
dan friesen
And I think that there's room for that conversation.
And if Alex were having that, I think that there would be a lot more...
Credence to the things he's saying, but he doesn't want to have that conversation because that doesn't justify the invasion.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
He's doing these things and he's using these specific talking points because they are ways that he can support Putin and Putin's actions without having the stink on him of being the guy who's like, hey, you know what?
I love Putin.
You know who does do that, though?
Nick Fuentes.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Who's on Alex's network.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Has a channel on banned.video.
Straight up.
You know, his speech straight up was like getting Putin chants going.
So, Alex doesn't want that.
Right.
Because he's not willing to be that out in public.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even though his business is failing, he still has something to maintain and protect.
I suppose.
So, yeah.
Anyway, he reads a headline about Putin.
And you'll notice he has to editorialize a little bit here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would have to.
alex jones
Putin's sanctions are a declaration of war.
No fly zone warning.
Weighs cyber attacks as the West engages in cyber attacks against Russia, saying that it's an act of war if Russia launches any cyber attacks back.
unidentified
Very, very dangerous situation.
dan friesen
What Alex did is so transparent.
He read a headline that said that Putin's weighing a cyberattack and instinctively, almost as second nature, He pretended to extend the headline to say that Putin is being hit with cyberattacks.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, Putin is preparing a cyberattack.
Well, obviously the only reason he would do that is because he's under cyberattack.
dan friesen
Yeah.
One part of this is that Alex supports Putin.
That's painfully clear.
But the other part is that Putin's almost painfully intertwined with Alex's narratives at this point, that Alex can't really do much negative stuff about Putin without really tanking some of the plates he's trying to spin.
He's got this whole thing going about how Klaus Schwab is going to do a false flag cyber attack, so if Alex accidentally reads a headline about Putin considering a cyber attack, he's going to have to immediately invalidate it or run the risk of weakening his Schwab narrative.
In order to keep his own bullshit afloat, Alex is essentially required to give Putin passes on a whole lot of stuff.
He has to pretend to not know a lot of stuff, and he has to lie about a ton of stuff.
That's kind of...
Where he's constrained by his own machinations.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
His own machine holds him.
It constrains him to not being able to talk about certain things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you've set this guy up, who is very obviously evil, to be the leader in the fight against the globalists right next to Trump.
So you have to say that committing war crimes and murdering people is fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Killing civilians and shelling humanitarian corridors.
jordan holmes
Gotta.
dan friesen
You have to deny it by saying, well, what about the ghost of Kiev?
jordan holmes
It's never happening.
dan friesen
Ukraine is just liars.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Putin weighing a cyber attack.
You're like, no, no, no, no.
They're doing it to him.
And it's just, it's annoying.
And it's one note.
It's very see-through.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And this next clip is actually where I decided to say, hey, how about you go fuck yourself?
And it's not because of any negative content.
It's just because this show is trivial to a level that is disrespectful to the issues that he's pretending to cover.
alex jones
We aired this piece more than four years ago.
Back when Trump was first in office, they were calling us all Russian agents.
There's a restaurant, downtown Austin, that's Russian and Eastern European flair.
What's the name of that restaurant?
Russia House.
And they've got a cloakroom with Russian outfits and things.
It's a joke you can wear.
It's like a theme party place.
They've got pretty good food, actually.
Hadn't been there in years.
jordan holmes
Fine.
alex jones
So we had an office party there.
And you can see some of the ladies that work here.
dan friesen
One of them is Millie.
alex jones
We did a little impromptu.
I set my camera on the table, my phone.
And I said, okay.
We did one take.
It was pretty.
Pretty funny there.
But the media picked this up and said, look, he's a Russian, thinking their viewers are so dumb.
And the Russians were insulted by it and said, look at Jones making fun of us to say it on national Russian TV.
But I think the Russians have a sense of humor.
So we're first going to air a really funny clip of Russians train with a bear.
And it's really funny.
The bear is like shaking the tree while the guy bounces up and down on it because the Russians are known for taking.
Both grizzly bears and other bears.
A couple of species.
This is a grizzly bear.
As pets.
And so they've got one as a pet that's playing with the soldiers.
And folks were joking that this is Alex Jones in Rocky IV.
That was what the tweet said.
So here is the Russian trains with a bear behind him.
A little bit of comic relief.
And then we'll play the next clip.
Alex Jones is not a Russian agent.
dan friesen
So first things first, no one in the media covered Alex's dumb trolling video of him at that Russian restaurant.
No one talked about that.
No one took it seriously, and I strongly doubt that anyone in Russia took offense to it either.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
If anyone in Russia ever saw that video, then Alex is under closer surveillance than I would have thought.
Like, I don't believe anyone gave a shit.
jordan holmes
No chance.
dan friesen
Real awesome use of time on this emergency broadcast, though.
Like, I can't believe he spent a half an hour talking about a stupid meme at the beginning of the show, and now he's playing troll videos from, like, four years ago.
What a fucking asshole.
So there's also that video going around on, like, TikTok and Twitter, some guys training with a bear.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I saw it.
dan friesen
I have no idea if it came from Russia, and neither does Alex.
It's just another meme that he thinks is worth covering on his super important news show.
So he gets done with playing these videos, and then he says this, and this is where I turned it off.
alex jones
Let me show you some memes that I thought were pretty informative that I saw.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
A cartoonist put this out.
dan friesen
What the fuck?
What are you doing?
A meme roundup?
I can't imagine anything less respectable in terms of a broadcast.
And this is past the two-hour point.
He had set out to do two hours.
Just stop.
You don't need to do meme coverage.
jordan holmes
Go home.
America's racist home memes.
I mean, he's doing like Tosh 2.0 for memes.
It's brutal.
dan friesen
Barely.
jordan holmes
Barely.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And I said barely as a pun.
jordan holmes
As a pun about the bear.
I was there.
dan friesen
Pun unintended, but then celebrated.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So yeah, this sucks.
I was mad about this special report.
Because it's trash.
I mean, the information that he's covering stinks.
It needs commercial breaks.
That's really, as somebody who listens to his show so much, That's one of the things I come away with most, essentially.
It's awful to watch or listen to without breaks.
It's just unsustainable.
His commentary jumps around all over the place.
It's meandering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but how would you know if you hadn't listened to this one?
That the devil was currently trying to create a separate pocket universe outside of God's awareness.
dan friesen
And there are other pocket universes that Alex has been to.
jordan holmes
And he's been to a bunch of them!
dan friesen
And instead of playing a harp in heaven like theologians think you do...
jordan holmes
That would be fucking stupid if you were a theologian.
dan friesen
Shut up.
That is a choice you can make.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that is a choice you can make.
dan friesen
Theologians think it's the only choice.
That's where they're wrong.
jordan holmes
They're stupid.
dan friesen
You can go to these pocket universes if you want to.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a problem.
dan friesen
I think this is...
Look...
Obviously, fucking unhinged and stupid, but also so transparently trying to support Putin in a way that he thinks is hedging his position to make it not something that could be damaging to him should people call him on it.
And I think that sucks.
I think it's weak.
I think that he should just come out with it already and let the chips fall where they may.
Stand up for the thing that you obviously support.
jordan holmes
If you're running interference for Putin, you're pro-Putin.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You can't just say, like, I don't take sides in this war.
dan friesen
No, but that's what he pretends.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And there isn't coverage of, like, why Ukraine is right.
What are the things that make Ukraine correct in this situation?
It is only...
Branding them as liars, and Zelensky is a liar, and lionizing the supposed arguments why Putin is right.
That's the only coverage that really is at all put forth on this.
And then also applying his standard villains like Soros as ways to communicate why Putin is right.
jordan holmes
It's not that he supports Putin's invasion.
However, George Soros invaded already, so it's like, why?
He's not really invading.
He's uninvading, honestly.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
He's righting the wrong.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't even know why Ukraine's fighting back.
It's not like Putin's trying to take over their country.
He's trying to give it back to them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what, Dan?
Like America before him, Putin's just a liberator.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what he is.
He's liberating.
dan friesen
This stinks.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
COVID narratives suck.
jordan holmes
Sucks butts.
dan friesen
But I think probably the most.
Sad part about all of it is...
jordan holmes
Memes.
dan friesen
No.
Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
That's pretty sad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's hard to be sadder than framing a meme.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Especially a meme that is part of a meme trend that's making fun of people like you.
Yeah.
That's pretty sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if Glenn Beck is listening to this, which I assume he is, all world leaders wind up listening to this show eventually.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just obvious.
I would just say that if you are sadder than a framed meme, you should really think about your life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Let's just see if you can call Samantha Bee.
jordan holmes
Sadder than a framed meme.
dan friesen
So anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
On our next episode.
But until then...
We have a website.
jordan holmes
That's true.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Right.
We also have a Twitter account.
jordan holmes
We are.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and not go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We will be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Dr. Marbles.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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