And then the actual stories of people that have been supposedly abducted, that have these stories of these encounters. They're oddly similar, regardless of where they live in the world, which is real weird.

John Mack was, I believe he was a psychiatrist at Harvard. He got really obsessed with alien abduction stories. And he wrote a book called Abduction, and it was all hypnotic regressions of people that have been abducted by aliens, allegedly.

Yeah, I think, you know, with as regards the connection between the abduction phenomenon and the DMT state, for example, I think the DMT state, as I said, is when the DMT state creates this neurological state where this intelligence can interact with our brain directly. And I think that the abduction, you know, John Mack, towards the end, later on at least, he left behind the kind of the nuts and bolts idea that we're talking about physical beings that were landing on the lawn, sneaking in through the window and plucking people from their beds. But actually, the intelligences might well be entirely non-physical, but were interacting with their brain in the same way, I think, is happening with DMT, that they are interacting directly and inducing them effectively into this altered state and directed them to some end. I don't know what the purpose is, directed them into their vision of their reality or for some other purpose. I'm not sure. But I think it's all about interaction between your brain, I think.

According to Mark, for example, the raptors have taken around 200,000 humans that are on a planet that is much farther away from our solar system. There are many, many Earth-like planets, even conventional scientists will admit. And those Earth-like planets out in the multiple solar systems out there are where humans would be taken.

In the beginning, it was just taking them on board the craft. My book that I've written about this my 25 years is called The Custodians. Because all through my work, I've not seen any negativity. It's always been positive. This is the way I see them, as the custodians of our planets. The first book I wrote on it was The Keepers of the Garden. We are the garden, and they are the gardeners. And I've never found negativity, because I could see why they were doing what they were doing, and the reasons for the whole thing. Okay, and when you say they, who are you talking about? The ETs.

And so a lot of times natural disasters will happen because there's either about to be or there's just been a major culling. Of humans, and they just have kidnapped thousands of people and are planning to take them off the planet for very negative reasons. It's usually not because they want you to be their best friend and go to school with their kids.

Well, you look at some of these planes that just disappear out of the sky, and you think, well, there's no trace of evidence where they've gone. Who's took them?