Today, Dan and Jordan end the week-long "Will They/Won't They" about when Roger Stone would finally show up on Infowars after being saved from prison last Friday. Also, Alex does ads for a product he can't sell yet, lies about Covid news, and accidentally reveals that he has no idea who Haile Selassie is.
Did not get a note, per se, but on the flap of the box, a very nice note about how this tonic water, this really nice tonic water, is best involved with a splash of gin.
And then about, what, a few hours after I released it, I got the news that my aunt was not going to be around for much longer to the tune of just a few days.
It's weird how the proudest day of your life suddenly becomes the saddest day.
And I just thought about this.
She was fine three weeks ago, and now it's going to be less than a few days.
And this is all too common a situation now.
It's not COVID.
She has stage 4 cancer, which is...
Something that happens, you know, it just happens.
It doesn't happen because a lunatic stole an election, you know?
Like, all of these families, 130,000 families are going through what my family is going through right now, and unnecessarily, due to just...
So, sorry to start off on a depressing note, but at the same time, motherfucker, I've always dreamed of that kind of possibility of writing something and people responding to it.
And even though your aunt is passing, which is very tragic, most likely, there's still a lot of love that you've experienced between the two of you and you can hold on to that and you can celebrate that part of what she meant to you and carry that with you moving forward.
Hopefully, not everything, even though it's hard and painful, not everything has to be fully negative.
But that kind of, I mean, on our last episode I was pretty clear that it's obviously, he signed an exclusive thing.
Totally, totally.
Hannity is a higher priority to him because it's a real show where it's going into people's homes and you can convince people who aren't Infowars listeners to listen to you and that you're a hero.
Comparatively, it's the right choice to make, because one guy gets exclusives with Trump and buddy buddies with him, and the other keeps talking about that one time Trump talked to him, and how he's spiritually connected to him, and they telepathically communicate.
I know who I would probably, if I were a shithead right-wing con person, who I would prioritize.
Roger made the right call.
But he has to show up eventually, because he can't go on Hannity every week.
He does need Alex as a parasitic base.
And so this is honoring that, and Alex is going to pretend like...
So I feel like this is sort of the payoff of our week narrative.
You know, we've had sort of a storyline going over the past week, which is, you know, it started with Roger's clemency and non-appearance.
Alex getting into Wayfair conspiracies, or not at the beginning, then convincing himself to be involved in Wayfair conspiracies, while Roger still doesn't appear.
And now we've got Roger finally showing up, and Alex doesn't even bring up Wayfair.
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We have Jim Hoff's brother who's lived in Hong Kong and is an executive and looked at the numbers and writing a bunch of big articles for Gateway Pundit.
Look, dude, if you're somebody who has their own reality and their own expertise and reason to be there, your credit wouldn't be you're Jim Hoff's brother.
So Alex is in a bit of a bad headspace early on, and he finds himself in a situation where he's warning his audience that the time will be fast approaching.
So R-I-G-H-T describes things that you're entitled to.
Things that cannot be denied to you by virtue of you being a person.
There's a bunch of different sort of slight definitions.
It's all around that.
The other word, R-I-T-E, is a word that means ceremony or custom.
These words have different roots and completely different meanings, but they're pronounced the same in English, so I can see how Alex would treat them as the same.
Also, it's weird that he's claiming that these rights are fought for, because that's completely out of step with the underpinnings of his patriot right-wing ideology.
The fights that have happened in history, they've happened against people who would seek to infringe those rights, but they can't do anything to actually take those rights away from you.
Even in a tyranny or a dictatorship, you still have rights.
And in fact, that's a large part of what makes authoritarianism so evil, is that these people are working to temporarily deprive you of that which God has bestowed upon you.
Alex saying that these rights have been earned with blood and that the blood bank is running dry, that's completely foreign to the angle he's supposed to have on rights.
That's kind of weird to me, and it almost sounds like he believes that rights only exist because of some kind of human sacrifice in the name of rights that happened in the past, which is pretty close to what he believes the globalists are into.
It seems very out of step with the larger understanding of these things that are in the right-wing world.
Right, right.
These militia communities, they believe that these attacks on the ideas of religiosity and society, the separation of church and state, is an attempt to attack God and to get rid of God and society because all rights flow from God.
So you get rid of God and therefore you get rid of the excuse why anyone has rights.
And the nightmare will get more intense as they claim, oh, the answer is more socialism, more communism, more Satanism, more New World Order, and it'll finally get so terrible!
That the enforcers and the jail guards of the New World Order will start rebelling, but then the globalists have always failed.
The Jacobins have always failed because humans finally wake up.
That's why the robots, the drones, the combat robots, the controls, the automated chips, everything not working.
But we're launching eight other products with it, with a whole new product line of really high-quality stuff.
It's being done under Dr. Jones Essentials, another company, a separate company from me, and we sell the product as we diversify operations for a lot of reasons.
We have activated charcoal mouthwash and super high-quality activated charcoal toothpaste with no additives.
This stuff is amazing.
This was not to compete with the old toothpaste.
Does it cure COVID?
You saw the Soros-financed attorney general that sent everybody to die in the nursing homes, the mass murderer, Letitia James, come out and say that I said I had a COVID-19 cure when I didn't.
She tried to criminally get me a bunch of other stuff.
So we just stopped selling it.
So she stopped saying that.
We are planning litigation.
We've got some stuff behind the scenes.
It's got to be cleared up before we do that.
But we have to go after her.
But this has nothing to do with COVID-19.
It's activated charcoal with a bunch of essential oils and things.
This whole rambly bullshit about like, hey, yeah, we got this new toothpaste, but it's totally not because I got told that I can't sell this other toothpaste because of how I was selling it.
It's super unethical and maybe illegal.
But we got this new activated charcoal toothpaste, which is pretty cool.
Hey, we're going to break down the real politics situation, but also here on my desk I have angel wings, a skull, and a tri-edged knife to remind you that none shall escape God's vengeance.
Well, because Alex connected the two, and it's not connected.
Second, the headline was, quote, from a China traveler.
Alex got the title wrong.
Third, let's take a look at the specific claims Alex is making.
He says that Rockefeller says in the op-ed that he helped put Mao into power, that he loves Mao, that Mao is the answer, and that communism is what we need.
The closest that Rockefeller gets is to say, quote, The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history.
Which is something that he was saying based on the impression he was able to get after a short visit to China.
If you read the complete article, however, you get the sense that Rockefeller may have some misgivings about what he himself experienced.
At multiple points, Rockefeller qualifies his own impressions.
He says, quote, In terms of simple geographic expanse, a week and a half visit to China is something equivalent to trying to see New York City in less than one and a half minutes.
That's in the opening paragraph, which should give the clear understanding that he wasn't in a position to have a fully immersed perspective.
Later in the article, Rockefeller even acknowledges that this view of the country he was getting was a curated one.
Each step of the trip was choreographed precisely by our hosts, and though virtually all our requests were granted, we clearly saw what they wanted us to.
His qualified impression of the country was that progress was being made.
Poverty, starvation, and crime were at much lower levels than they were 20 years prior.
In the same time period, the number of children receiving an education had jumped from 20% to 80%.
At the same time, Rockefeller absolutely does not sugarcoat things in that op-ed.
As he puts it, The first question was about individuality and creativity being contained in the country.
That is an issue.
The second question is how well the Chinese economy would be able to adapt to technological advancement and to foreign trade.
This is largely a strategic and logistical question.
The third question is, quote, are we and the Chinese prepared to accept our very real differences and still proceed toward the closer mutual understanding that must be the basis for substantive future contact?
That question had to do with how both sides, both America and China, would likely need to make a lot of accommodation in the future in order to coexist in an increasingly interdependent world.
None of the stuff Alex is saying about this op-ed is real.
All Alex knows about this article is what he's heard about it from paranoid John Birch Society pamphlets, which have basically no connection to reality.
And you can take, you know, a perspective of, you know, Rockefeller had all of the information that he could possibly have had at that point, but that doesn't seem to be accurate.
You're applying a 2020 mind to someone...
In 1973, at a time when Chinese-U.S.
relations were not what they are now, the flow of information was not what it is now.
No one is moving flu deaths to the COVID-19 column, and there's a really good reason why flu deaths are going way down.
It's because it's July.
Flu season is pretty much over by May.
We'll see an uptick in flu cases in the United States again, but it probably won't be for another few months.
Alex knows that and is lying about it, or he doesn't know that, and he has absolutely zero reason to be speaking on these subjects.
If you don't understand when flu season is, and you're trying to say flu deaths are way down and it's somehow suspicious, you are unqualified or a liar.
So, some of this stuff would be a little bit more, like...
I don't even know.
I listen to this and I'm like, Alex, why do you not do any...
This is really difficult to put into words.
But what I'm trying to get at is there's moments in Alex's show where his lack of doing any work or any preparation accidentally reveals how little he knows about the world.
And this next clip is one of those that I think is just like, you shouldn't allow yourself to be put in situations where you look like this.
The second thing that clip tells me is that Alex sees a statue being knocked over and assumes that it must be connected to every other statue he's read about.
And that's bad thinking, because there's no reason to assume that just because one group wants to take down certain statues, then all statue-related stories must be involved with that group.
In the reporting I can find about this statue, it appears that this one was destroyed in an event that's most likely related to unrest in Ethiopia.
According to the BBC, this has to do with the killing of a popular musician named Hachalu Hundesa.
Hundesa was a big proponent of the Oromo rites, which is an ethnic group that were oppressed by Selassie's regime.
A witness saw men gathering in the park in London, where the Selassie statue was, carrying flyers with Oromo slogans, which gives a pretty strong indication that this is what this story is about in this case.
The statue of Selassie's father, one of those, was recently torn down in Harar in Ethiopia.
And the reason there was this Haile Selassie statue in London...
Was because he had lived in Wimbledon when he was in exile in 1936.
I'm very grateful to the president, who I believe received divine guidance to do the right thing, although I think he would have done the right thing, but I'm very grateful to both of them.
I had an opportunity to meet Reverend Franklin Graham.
I jumped at it.
He gave me the most solid advice you could give anybody.
He said, you're right, son, you're in big trouble, but if you will just confess your sins, if you will be reborn, if you will get right with Christ, if you will reaffirm your commitment to the Lord, you will see.
He will protect you.
He will never abandon you.
He will be with you in your moment of need.
And you can erase all worry, and you no longer need to be afraid.
That very day, I did what Reverend Graham suggested.
I stood up with 500 others.
I confessed my sins, and I pledged to sin no more to the best of my ability.
I feel like you don't ask somebody about something really important and a big story, like how did your life change after you accepted Christ when you're a...
Zealotist religious broadcast.
You don't ask that when you've got like 45 seconds to break.
You ask that as an opening out of a break as opposed to when you're gonna run out of time because it's disrespectful to the story that Roger's telling.
It implies that you don't really care that much yourself.
If you would put Roger in a situation where you might have to interrupt his story...
Well, this was on a Saturday that I was reborn, and that very Monday morning, a day later, all the stories about the corrupt jury hit the fan, none of which I knew.
We had none of that information.
Frankly, Mike Cernovich, a crusading independent journalist, a solid conservative, broke that story, and it was everywhere.
And from that moment on, I was highly confident that everything was going to be fine.
God was now going to take his hand and he would provide.
So last Friday, around 5 o 'clock, many media outlets, ABC was among the first, then Fox News, and then everybody, was saying that the president would commute my sentence.
Prior to that, there was a lot of speculation.
It could be a commutation.
It could be a pardon.
It could be nothing.
These same reports had popped up the previous Sunday and nothing came of them.
And so it became pretty clear that something was going to happen.
People started just arriving at my home.
I hadn't invited anybody but patriots, folks from the Trump Club, young Republicans, local conservatives, friends from the Republican Party, a lot of info warriors.
People just started arriving.
And then because I was under house arrest at that time, I could not leave the actual house.
We sorted people out.
Between those who were wearing masks, they were allowed to come in.
Those who didn't have a mask, they could mask in the front yard inside a gate.
Somebody sent out for beer, and we had a pop-up party.
And then around 7 o 'clock, my cell phone rang, and it was the White House switchboard operator saying, This is the White House switchboard.
I have a call from the President of the United States.
I mean, this is the strategy that you would employ, and I think Roger's doing it exactly right, which is overplay how important InfoWars is on InfoWars and don't recognize it elsewhere.
Right, because if you bring up InfoWars other places, it diminishes the value of whatever you're getting out of that publicity, but at the same time, Alex knows his place.
You can't afford to get too mad at you for not thanking him elsewhere.
I imagine that every talk show he's been on, I imagine that when Hannity introduced him, he introduced him as somebody who worked for InfoWars for multiple years.
They're really trying to get rid of our exposure and to keep our ideas kept within this area.
So that's why when I went on Sean Hannity, a show with millions upon millions of viewers, outside of this viewership, I screamed, everybody, We are Infowars!
That's what I screamed on that because I wanted to spread the message as far as I could.
I'm not sure that I've made this point in the past, like when Alex did this sale last year, but there's something hilarious about him in particular doing a Christmas in July sale.
For Alex, Christmas isn't supposed to be a commercialized thing.
It's not about sales and gift giving.
It's a solemn holiday where you celebrate the birth of Jesus.
If your only interest in Christmas is the sales aspect, like if you're a mattress store, then it makes sense to have a Christmas in July sale, because the importance of the holiday is about cutting deals.
For Alex, this is almost sacrilegious.
There can't be a Christmas in July, because Christmas is a holy day that is of religious significance.
There aren't two Christmases in the year, in the same way there aren't two Jesus Christs.
This doesn't really seem like a sale that anybody who takes their faith seriously in the way that Alex pretends to could possibly engage in.
This is using religion to drive sales, not a sale that just happens to coincide with a religiously based but also secularly celebrated holiday.
As someone with absolutely no skin in the game, just an impartial observer, it seems to me that this kind of thing, having a Christmas in July sale, that's more of an...
affront to religious observance than someone saying happy holidays in December, which Alex considers a war on Christmas.
not a war on Christmas to water the holiday down by creating your own second Christmas that isn't even halfway through the year?
According to NBC Miami, there are actually 474 labs in Florida that had reported 100% positive test results, but it's important to understand the details of this story.
These labs were testing people who came up negative, but for whatever reason, they weren't entering those negative test results into their database.
This might seem like it would affect the overall positive rate in the state, but NBC Miami's analysis found that these 474 labs made up approximately 1% of the state's testing numbers.
And if their negative results were in line with the other 99% of labs in the state, it would, quote, result in the state's 11% overall positivity rate falling to 10.9%, an insignificant difference.
The Florida Department of Health told Fox 13 out of Florida that, quote, in recent days the Florida Department of Health noticed that some smaller private labs weren't reporting negative test results data to the state.
The department immediately began working with those labs to ensure that all results were being reported in order to provide comprehensive and transparent data.
As the state continues to receive results from various labs, the department will continue educating these labs on proper protocol for reporting COVID-19 test results.
One of the issues here appears to be bad messaging from the state of what is expected in a pandemic.
These were smaller private labs who might have been unaware of what they needed to do.
You see, when there's no pandemic going on, a lab is required by law to report positive cases for specified infectious diseases that are being tracked.
But, as it turns out, when there is a pandemic, they're also required to report negative test results.
In all likelihood, the message just wasn't being spread universally that they needed to do this.
And even Florida Governor Ron DeSantis realizes this, saying, quote, There were a number of labs who were just simply doing what the default is, which is sending the positives only without sending the negatives.
So I don't think they were trying to be underhanded, those labs.
I think that's kind of what they were doing before this started.
This isn't a conspiracy.
It's another symptom of widespread mismanagement of the response to an outbreak.
People aren't on the same page, and that leads to some folks operating out of step with how they should, often completely unknowingly.
Ultimately, it's important for these negative tests to get reported as well, because it's crucial to have the most accurate information possible.
But people who've looked at the raw data are pretty clear that this error doesn't have a significant impact on the larger point that things are pretty out of control in Florida.
I think that might be what kind of broke me in terms of caring about the fourth hour.
It's like, you're going to do this disappointing interview with Roger and pretend that he would have given you the exclusive if only he had this piece of paper.
And then you're going to follow it up with this lame dud of a COVID-19 bombshell.
And then you're going to bring in Jim Hoffa's brother.
The numbers are skyrocketing, and then you learn almost all the tests are false, and 333 labs, as I said earlier, in Florida all reported publicly 100% rates, some of them testing thousands, the average about 500, so they're testing tens of thousands of people, and they're all positive.
Alex is just completely making up the number of average tests at these labs in Florida.
There's no source he could be citing to back that up, other than maybe something he saw, like on Twitter or something, but Fox 35 out of Orlando posted the actual documents of the lab-specific numbers, and if you go through the list, you'll see that the highest number of tests run at any of these labs that are reporting 100% positive cases is 405 at the Lee Memorial Hospital and Pancare of Florida.
That's nothing compared to the 540,816 tests that were done by Quest Diagnostics or the 455,636 done by LabCorp.
Many of the labs with the 100% positive results are under 100 tests reported.
It's all good and well to assume that if they haven't reported their negative results, then it stands to reason that the actual number of tests that they did do should be higher.
Alex is lying and fabricating numbers to create a false narrative about this lab story, and the fact that Jim Hoff's brother doesn't immediately call him on it and clarify it means that he's a pile of shit just like his brother and not somebody who needs to be taken seriously.
We covered that story a while back when it was relevant.
It's no longer relevant.
But, yeah, I mean, if he's promoting Robert Kennedy Jr., then you kind of know what he's about.
So, one of the main things that is very difficult to get around if you are a COVID denialist is the phenomenon of excess deaths.
Right.
It turns out, it's not that hard to get around.
You can just kind of pretend that that number doesn't exist.
unidentified
The thing that I wanted to point out last segment that I didn't, I'm sorry, was the fact that the one measurement that we can take that can really kind of tell us how bad this COVID is, is to look at total deaths.
We should have started the whole interview with this.
In fact, when we post this to Bandai video later, I want to put what you're about to say at the very front of the interview because we can put up the graph showing record testing, but deaths have gone way down from what they claimed.
But let's look at last year's numbers.
Compared to the flat line of death or the range of death compared to now?
And tell people the name of the article on Gateway Punish so folks can find it.
You've already been saying where they take the death numbers of everybody else, put them in the column, but we're going to have, you're doing the same thing, I guess, having a PhD statistician show it.
So tell us what's coming.
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Yeah.
So what he's done is he's looked at the last five years of mortality rates throughout the U.S., and he compares them to this year, and we're seeing that there's no material increase.
On July 1st, the Journal of the American Medical Association released an investigation in their imprint called Internal Medicine, which looked at the excess deaths of the mortality in the U.S. between March and May 2020.
They found that all-cause deaths rose by approximately 122,000 in the United States over that time period, compared to the same period in previous years.
At that point, there were only 95,235 official deaths from COVID-19 in the United States, which meant that the excess mortality in the country represented a number that was 28% higher than the official figures that had been linked to COVID-19.
this is going to be difficult for alex and his newly hired imaginary statistician to work around but i wish them the best of luck and by that i mean the worst of luck no matter how you slice it the numbers of all-cause mortality in this country are approximately 15 higher during the period of the pandemic uh that was studied so unless alex has a compelling argument for why that is the case this line of thinking is going to go nowhere hmm it's just uh it's We should not be listening to medical doctors, Dan.
Why is New York, a few areas of Michigan, because they're blue cities and states where they intubated people, they admit that's what killed them, and where they sent regular flu and regular pneumonia patients into nursing homes knowing they would get a death number.
And the only way you do that in 10 different Democrat states that did it, where you have most of the death, is it was premeditated.
There's currently over 100,000 deaths that haven't been in New York and Michigan, so I guess that angle probably falls apart.
Also, Jim Hoff's brother is revealing his idiocy here.
If it is true that there's a double chance of dying of COVID-19 in blue states as opposed to red states, maybe you should look for what a factor might be involved there.
Maybe population density is different in these states.
Maybe blue states include more metropolitan urban centers than red states, which would have different patterns of transmission.
I mean this sincerely.
All you need to do is hear someone like Jim Hoff's brother saying stuff like that.
Then you're free to tune him out entirely.
If he's willing to make that kind of blind leap in order to justify his narratives, then he's not living in reality, and whatever all this stuff is is just bullshit.
I mean, he's just basically rewritten this entire story and is now using it to push his very racist agenda.
I went and I looked at the article that he was talking about.
Everyone's celebrating this.
They just cherry-picked a couple of comments from shitheads online.
They're saying that that represents...
It's the same stupid game that he is like, all the Democrats and the left, they all want to crash the economy to hurt Trump.
And his evidence is a fucking clip from Bill Maher.
It's the same game.
It's like, okay, yeah, I bet...
I bet if I had the kind of patience or any belief that it meant anything, I could go through all the comments on Infowars and I could find people using the N-word.
I could find any horrifying thing that you want me to find on the comments on Infowars or people who are Infowars fans tweeting out horrible shit.
But I don't think that means anything.
I think that would be committing a composition fallacy to say that this one shithead commenting online in a particular way is somehow indicative of what InfoWars is.
Alex does that all the fucking time and that's all he's doing here because it helps him bolster this white victimhood narrative of if you dare say that there's any nuance to Black Lives Matter then you'll get shot in the head.
It's just bullshit.
It's patently race-baiting, and I find it abhorrent and disgusting.
I always have hope that maybe there'll be something interesting that comes of it, but at a certain point you cut bait, and that's about where I...
Because it's also really repetitive.
This episode was really repetitive in a lot of ways.
This Indianapolis story is repeating it.
It comes up a couple times.
There's the COVID story about the Florida labs.
It's just over and over.
It's very boring.
And just the constant repetition of the same coronavirus narratives.
Destroy everybody kind of shit.
I just think we have to come full circle with Roger finally showing up and him kind of insulting Alex by discussing how Cernovich broke that story and how he had a house party that Alex wasn't invited to or aware of.
The man cow was at.
Alex insulting him by eating during the interview.
So, I mean, I think we get through this little time period, and we can see that Roger definitely wants what he can get out of Alex, but doesn't care about him all that much, based on, I mean, you know, like, it's kind of what Alex says all the time.
You judge a tree by its fruit.
And I think these fruits clearly indicate that Roger would rather be elsewhere if there is a higher degree of thing he can get out of it.