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July 15, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#457: July 12-13, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan keep track of two ongoing storylines on The Alex Jones Show that probably shouldn't be ongoing storylines. The first is the conspicuous absence of Roger Stone on Alex's show since he got saved from prison. The second is Alex weirdly trying to talk himself into promoting the Wayfair Conspiracy. No reason for any of this to be happening.

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alex jones
13:59
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dan friesen
52:30
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jordan holmes
16:59
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alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I don't know.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Emmerich Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
unidentified
How are you doing today?
dan friesen
I'm all right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I got a quick question.
dan friesen
Okay.
You already asked a question.
How am I doing?
I'm doing all right.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
My second question.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Can I ask a second question?
Oh, shit.
That was the second question.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Third question.
dan friesen
Let's not who's on first this thing.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
I would say competence.
jordan holmes
Competence?
dan friesen
Yes.
Mild levels of competence.
So many of these bright spots for me are ending up being just like little things like, I put up a shelf!
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great!
dan friesen
Sure.
I was complaining to you already about this, but like, you know...
Going through life is kind of basically like, well, you solve one problem and it creates another.
So recently, this new apartment that I've moved in, very hot.
It's very hot.
And so it's starting to heat up in the summer here in Chicago.
And so you solve that problem.
You express a little bit of competence.
You get an air conditioning unit, put it in the window, install it.
jordan holmes
Now it's nice and sunny.
dan friesen
Wonderful.
Now it's cold.
Flash forward a couple days, you find out, uh-oh.
It's not sealed.
The window's not sealed.
Now there's a bunch of bugs in the house.
jordan holmes
That can be an issue, yes.
dan friesen
So, you know, today I've had to spend a good bit of time trying to figure out ways to seal up these windows in order to keep the coldness and not have the bugs.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, it's just, this is all a hassle, but it also feels really good to be in a position, in a place in life where you're like, alright.
There are problems.
You can't solve them.
So that's kind of nice.
Whereas at other times, maybe bugs would have been like, I've got to run away.
I can't handle this.
Now I'm able to try and patch up the window.
jordan holmes
So that's good.
dan friesen
It's a celebration.
jordan holmes
You know, when you say my bright spots are small stuff, I think now especially...
The things that we can take control over are all of our bright spots, since everything around us is completely batshit.
dan friesen
I think there's something to that, and I think I'm experiencing that and wanting to recognize it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, so how about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I put my book out on Into the World.
I put it out Into the World.
dan friesen
At long last.
jordan holmes
At long last.
dan friesen
You've been George R.R. Martin-ing everybody.
jordan holmes
Yes, I've spent a year writing it and then leaving it alone, and so I decided to put it out.
It's called The Quiet Part Loud, and I got thequietpartloud.com.
How crazy is that?
dan friesen
That is a little bit, but that's not the craziest thing I've ever heard.
That's not the...
That's lucky.
jordan holmes
That is lucky.
dan friesen
It's not stars aligning.
jordan holmes
Right, sure.
dan friesen
Literally.
jordan holmes
The planets aligned.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
The planets were aligned whenever I got it.
dan friesen
So that's great.
People can go to that website and they can download your book for free.
And if they'd like to chip in a little bit as a, hey, here you go, you wrote a book.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
They're free to do that.
jordan holmes
Nice little pat on the head.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd be great.
TheQuietPartLoud.com.
And be sure the the is at the beginning.
jordan holmes
The the is at the beginning, yes.
dan friesen
Someone else is going to get quietpartloud.com and direct it to newswars.com.
jordan holmes
I tried to get that.
I was like, maybe I can get both of those, but somebody owns Quiet Part Loud.
It's probably Alex.
God, if he did it already, I'm going to be pissed.
That bastard.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about July 12th and 13th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, you weren't going to go with Autonomous Zone?
dan friesen
I like to keep you on your toes.
jordan holmes
All right.
Fair enough.
Goddammit.
dan friesen
This is interesting.
I would say that I probably would...
Generally be bored with a lot of the racism that Alex expresses on these episodes that we'll talk about a little bit.
And maybe it would be a situation where, hey, it's the present day, Alex sucks.
You know, that kind of thing.
However, there are two stories that I consider to be ongoing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Developing stories.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The first was, on our last episode, we discussed how Alex was having a Clemency for Roger special on Saturday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Emergency episode, Alex came to the studio on his day off and interviewed Man Cow.
Did not interview Roger.
Roger was not there.
jordan holmes
Never not funny.
dan friesen
So now, on that Saturday show, Alex said Roger will be on on Sunday.
jordan holmes
Will be on on Sunday.
dan friesen
Which is the 12th.
Which is part of the reason we've got to keep this continuing storyline going.
We need to see what Roger says when he shows up on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Naturally, based on the way you're building this up, I can only assume that Roger shows up from minute one and stays on for the entire show.
dan friesen
It is an ongoing story and we will keep you updated with developments.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Second story that I did not think was ongoing is the Wayfair conspiracy.
jordan holmes
How is that still ongoing?
dan friesen
That is apparently a ball that is still, there's still some motion on the field.
jordan holmes
I thought we landed on the, it's not a conspiracy.
Well, could be, but it's not.
dan friesen
You remember at the end of the episode, after Alex spent a long time saying it's a honey trap and don't get in there, he's like, but also maybe it's real.
jordan holmes
He wants a little bit of that honey.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Let's see what's going on here.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So we'll see how this develops over the course of these days.
As well.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But before we get down to business on that, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and supported the show.
So, first of all, thank you to Smiley Good Hands.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Smiley!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Stark.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Stark.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dutch ado about nothing.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Dutch ado about nothing.
dan friesen
I'm almost certain that's a reference to my parents' old mechanic.
Oh.
Next, Clay C. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Clay!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Chris N. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Welcome to the conspiracy, Chris.
dan friesen
Thank you, Chris.
Next, Asura.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Asura!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Douglas H. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Doug!
dan friesen
Next, we...
Next, we have Ryan or Brian.
It's Brian.
Thank you so much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, we have Ryan-er.
Brian, it's Brian.
jordan holmes
Okay, so next we have, next we have Brian-er.
It's Brian.
dan friesen
It's Brian.
jordan holmes
Okay, thanks, Brian!
dan friesen
Then finally, like I say, thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Love.
We appreciate that very much.
So first of all, James P., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Alice J., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, James, and thank you so much, Alice.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or you can take that generosity that you feel and grind it in a little machine that sits on your countertop, put it inside a little paper cup thing, run a bunch of hot water over it, and then hand it to your Local charity, because they need to pick me up in coffee form.
I like it.
Generosity coffee form.
jordan holmes
I think that worked.
dan friesen
That was a C at best.
jordan holmes
I think that worked.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to jump in on Sunday, but before we do, here is an Out of Context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I've never been a devil worshiper.
When I was a teenager and stuff, I was on the fence.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Oh, you were?
Oh, were you?
You were on the fence about the devil.
unidentified
You know, you join with the devil, you don't join with the devil.
jordan holmes
Who knows what's going to work out for the best in you at the end, you know?
dan friesen
I was on the fence about the devil.
unidentified
I was on the fence about it.
dan friesen
Alright.
So, so...
Weird.
Also, one other thing.
No seltzer update today, but I do want to say I have not forgotten about the fact that I did say that after I moved, I was going to get a pet.
There have been people who have been clamoring to know what this pet will be, and the answers are forthcoming.
It takes a little bit longer to settle into a place than you are.
I have a lot of new pet bugs.
I'll tell you that right now.
But that is coming.
Don't worry about it.
And I have made a decision.
jordan holmes
Okay.
You know what you do.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
Here's what you do.
All right.
Now is the time.
Make a treaty with the spider leadership.
They will take care of your bugs.
Everybody knows this is how you solve things.
dan friesen
I have no problem with spiders for the most part.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
dan friesen
They're welcome.
jordan holmes
Let's travel to Vietnam.
No, that's the Beatles.
Oh, that was the Beatlebees.
unidentified
What were those?
jordan holmes
Spider leadership in Egypt?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
That's scarabs.
So, we start here, and like I said, the Wayfair story is ongoing in a way that I did not expect.
I started listening to Sunday, and I was like, Alex, why the fuck are you doing this?
alex jones
Now, with that broke Friday, a huge Wayfair story, the big online merchant company, with people supposedly in the names of kidnapped children selling $15,000, $10,000 cabinets.
I said, is this a cover for money laundering, a cover to deliver kids?
I said, I don't think so, but it could be.
But when you see something like this the media is focusing on, instead of all the confirmed massive roll-up of huge globalist pedophile rings, it could be a setup.
I've witnessed it before to distract us.
But then everybody sent me the Amazon and the rest of them sites going back years.
This is widespread.
And this is really bad, folks.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
And then I got reminded on Backpage and on Craigslist and a bunch of other places that busted people selling items when it was really prostitution a few years ago with code words.
So I did a deep dive on that last night.
jordan holmes
Good word.
alex jones
I was going to go out with some friends on the boat, but I did and I stayed home and did the research.
And I got to say, right now...
jordan holmes
Did you hire somebody?
alex jones
You need to research this heavily and look at this heavily.
And the boldness of these people just completely...
Blows me away.
So I'm gonna cover that hour number two.
dan friesen
That is real bad.
I mean, that's almost like, that's very close to getting into the territory he had with Pizza Gay.
Like, you need to look into this.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's somebody convincing themselves to buy a used car they know is going to explode on them.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
From someone who sold them a used car that blew up in the past.
jordan holmes
Alright, so you sold me the first used car.
Shame on you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to buy this second used car because I fucking love it.
dan friesen
That's why the feelings that I had about him yesterday or on our last episode were so conditional.
It seems like you're on the right path saying it's a stupid way to deliver trafficked people.
Good?
But, oh no, Alex.
jordan holmes
Sometimes he, I swear to God, sometimes he raises you up only to disappoint you even further.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's cruelty.
I think it's coming after you.
This is entirely him just, like, finding ways to just needle you a little bit.
He's got nothing left, Dan.
dan friesen
Build up a semblance of, like, hey, good job, Alex.
Oh, come on, man.
But honestly, the reality of the situation is that I think Alex got too much pushback from his audience.
I think that they're really into the Wayfair conspiracy, and he's like, shit, we're going to alienate a lot of people.
alex jones
Some listeners got mad that I said, well, this could be a trap, it could be a setup, because I've seen that happen before.
And then they sent me all this material, and I was like, okay, this is insane.
It just gets worse than I could even imagine all the time, and it shows how evil's really grown.
dan friesen
Speaking of that...
jordan holmes
Yes, this is insane!
That is the correct response!
dan friesen
Alex's audience has sent him some memes or something, and now he is like, oh shit, Wayfair is selling people.
Can't believe it.
jordan holmes
You know, every morning I wake up and I just remind myself, like every morning I'm just looking at the news going like, so we're really doing this, huh?
This is what we're doing.
dan friesen
It does seem like that is a...
Response that is understandable to have.
jordan holmes
No, like that resigned, like, I feel like I'm trudging every day, just like, I guess this is what we're doing.
dan friesen
Kind of like, yep, here we go!
jordan holmes
Alex saying that Wayfair conspiracy is real is like, alright, that's what we're doing then.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'll get in this car.
dan friesen
Hope no one gets shot!
unidentified
Cool!
dan friesen
We've done this.
We've played this game before, Alex.
You know where this road goes.
You even said it yourself.
You smell trouble.
jordan holmes
We'll see you when the bullet holes show up.
dan friesen
Alex said he's going to talk about this later.
We'll get into some specifics of his theory later.
But before, he gets pretty racist on this episode.
And part of that is based on how he covers...
And this is the chief one of them.
This is the big story that he's covering in a white identity, white fear manner that the story does not necessarily match.
alex jones
Young white mother executed by Black Lives Matter mob for allegedly saying all lives matter.
They were approached by the group of BLM.
And this is all on local surveillance cameras, but no news will pick it up.
She's been shot in the head and died.
And they'll ask you at checkpoints like Antifa does.
Black Lives Matter.
She said, yeah, Black Lives Matter.
All lives matter.
Well, they went and got a gun and came back and shot her in the head.
But she's dead now.
I guess she deserves it.
dan friesen
So this is a story that Alex is completely misrepresenting.
Before I get into any of this, I want to be clear that I'm not minimizing the tragedy of unnecessary death, nor am I saying that any party's behavior in this story justifies shooting.
My only point is that the available information completely contradicts what Alex is reporting because he doesn't actually care about the reality of this story.
He's interested in creating a fear in white people of non-white people.
That's all he's doing.
This is about a woman from Indianapolis named Jessica Whittaker who was shot and killed in the very early morning of hours of July 5th.
She was walking with her fiancé and two other friends near the canal in Indianapolis around 3 a.m.
As the group passed a group of strangers, one of the people in Whittaker's group was overheard saying the N-word.
The group of strangers responded by yelling Black Lives Matter at them, to which Whitaker replied, All lives matter.
I'm going to read what happened next from the article about this in the Daily Mail.
Her fiancé, quote, said both groups brandished guns at each other, but eventually talked through the issues, fist bumped, and walked away from each other.
So it appeared that everything was alright, but apparently it wasn't, and they ended up getting into a shootout.
This group of strangers initially shot at them, and fire was returned, and sadly, Ms. Whitaker died.
Incidentally, this is the second homicide that's taken place in this stretch of the Indianapolis Canal in just that week.
Previously, a 14-year-old was shot, allegedly the result of an adult shooting him in self-defense after the youth attempted to pull off an armed robbery.
So, this is maybe an area where there's a little bit of crime going on right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like everybody's carrying a gun around.
dan friesen
This is an awful story, but you can easily and pretty immediately see the factual misrepresentations that Alex has added to his version of it so that his story more easily fits his narratives of white victimhood and fear.
For one, he completely ignores the setting and the inciting incident of the event.
He doesn't mention that it was at three in the morning and the altercation began because someone used the N-word.
Again, that's not to say that I'm saying that that justifies a shooting, but it's relevant if you're reporting this story.
Alex's version of the story has cast these people as Black Lives Matter protesters who randomly accosted this white person on the street and insisted that they pledge allegiance to BLM, and when they dare say all lives matter, they're executed.
This is obviously not at all accurate from the available reporting on the story.
Alex has found a story with a white victim and suspect who yelled Black Lives Matter, and everything else past that is the creation of his imagination.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the pieces fall into place the moment you have those two things.
dan friesen
Yeah, and all the rest of it is just his made-up shit.
This is something that only a very deeply racist person would do.
The complete misreporting of stories like this, specifically for the reason of creating racially charged feeling, is an act of profound bigotry.
And I think, honestly, doing something like this, and with the regularity that we see Alex doing this, that's way more damning than if he just said slurs on air.
I think that this is worse.
I mean, it's not for me to decide.
I'm not the target of this, you know, to say, like, relative scale of it.
But I think that this denotes more racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, a slur is awful and offensive, but it's not necessarily always inciting a bunch of passionate gun weirdos into believing that every black person is coming to fucking execute them if they don't swear fealty to Black Lives Matter.
dan friesen
That's scary.
And if somebody yells Black Lives Matter, you better agree or else you're going to get killed.
Yeah, exactly.
It's very dangerous, especially when the actual...
The story that he's basing it on doesn't match.
That's not the reality of what happened.
Anyway, he has another story that he turns into a racial story that I don't know if I can find evidence is.
alex jones
Shock subway video shows deranged man, black man, stabbing multiple white people on the New York subway.
That won't be on your news anywhere.
dan friesen
You can find plenty of stories about this in outlets like the New York Post or the Daily Mail.
It's not something that's being ignored by the media as much as it is more of a local issue.
From everything I can tell, this is a story about a mentally unwell person attacking two people on a train, which sucks, but it's not national news.
For one thing, the suspect was arrested and is facing charges of attempted murder, attempted assault, among other counts.
Both of the victims who were in their 70s survived and are in stable condition, so that's a bright side to this whole thing, and makes it far less severe of a story than it would be had it have gone the other way.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Certainly it's not nothing, and if I lived in New York or, you know...
Hey, you know what?
Even not living in New York, it's relevant.
There was a stabbing.
I'm not playing that down, but the idea that everybody needs to be talking about this and pointing out that it was a black guy who did it is absurd.
There's an important distinction here that Alex fails to grasp at all.
And that is just because the person who happens to commit this crime is black and the victim happens to be white, that doesn't mean that race is really involved at all.
In this case, I can see no evidence that race was a factor in the crime, and in fact, the better case could be made that this was an ageist crime, since the suspect said, quote, why aren't you at home with your kids before commencing the attack?
And they were two dudes in their 70s.
For Alex, he sees a black guy attack a white person, and he believes, or at least reports, that the black guy did it because the guy was white.
That's a really stupid way to look at things, but when you begin to glimpse the racism, the point that you do is when you start to recognize that Alex doesn't operate this way when the races are reversed.
When a white person commits a crime and the victim is black, Alex will go out of his way to justify why racism isn't involved at all.
All you have to do is look back to his coverage of Ahmaud Arbery's killing as a perfect example of how this doesn't play out the same way in those circumstances.
And again, this is just a fingerprint of...
Of a deeply racist program.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he spends all of his time with Ahmaud Arbery trying to explain why it's more fine.
Hey, look, I don't want him to be dead, but it's more fine that he's dead than other people.
dan friesen
But you gotta understand.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it happens.
You just gotta shoot people sometimes.
And it's so much like...
I don't know if it's emblematic of a complete inability to understand why...
Or if it's a pure ability to understand why.
Do you know what I'm saying?
This is a rebuttal to people pointing out the horrific police violence and the racist attacks and the fucking modern-day lynchings that are still fucking going on.
And they are emblematic of a long, long history of doing this shit.
pulling up any kind of like, well, see, a black person hurt a white person as a defense against that is either misunderstanding that each individual act is part of a larger whole that needs to be corrected, or it's understanding
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And honestly, like me, bringing up the case of Ahmaud Arbery is almost a bad example in this case because you could make a very strong argument that the reason that they did target him was because he was black.
jordan holmes
Very strong argument.
dan friesen
So there is a pretty compelling racial component of that, whereas at this point, I don't know what information will eventually come out because the guy did get arrested, but that guy on the train did not seem to be, from all the reporting I can find, have any racial...
component to what he did at all.
So I don't know.
It's just a mess.
jordan holmes
So that's what I'm saying.
He's trying to imagine it into a rebuttal.
dan friesen
So, Alex is pissed off about the situation with that couple in St. Louis who had the guns out with the protesters.
It turns out that they have ended up having their home searched.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of an investigation going on.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
And Alex is not happy about this.
alex jones
Cops raid mansion of St. Louis couple who defended home from protesters, confiscated AR-15.
So folks broke down their gate, came and said they're going to kill them, and now they've raided them or getting ready to charge them.
The local district attorney is appointed by George Soros, funded by George Soros.
dan friesen
Apparently this couple, the McCloskeys of St. Louis, have had their home searched and their AR-15 was confiscated.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
There's an investigation open into them because they were straight up pointing guns at people, and Patricia McCloskey had her finger on the trigger of her pistol.
Under normal circumstances, that is illegal to brandish a weapon at somebody, but it becomes really complicated when you start to factor in ideas of self-defense and stand-your-ground laws and the castle doctrine.
It's an open question about whether or not the McCloskey's argument of feeling threatened and thus being justified in brandishing weapons and self-defense is valid.
And the fact that Patricia was pointing a gun at people and had no firearms training, that doesn't look great.
Legally, they're probably going to end up fine, though.
I'm going to guess.
jordan holmes
Have you read up on their history?
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yep, they're not cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's one of those things where it's like, hey, if you guys get them for this...
This is the IRS taking down Capone.
There's a long history of shit they need to be taken down.
dan friesen
I'm not sure they're bootlegging and murdering.
Anyway, the DA of Missouri is not involved in this case at all.
The office that opened the investigation is that of St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner.
Though Alex has her position wrong and is just talking shit, I do want to say that what he's saying isn't totally based on nothing.
Gardner won her election to the circuit attorney's office in 2017, and she did accept funding from a super PAC called the Safety and Justice Committee, which Soros did donate to.
So at least there's a little kernel of truth in that she got some Soros funding.
But Alex is all like, he's installing everybody else.
jordan holmes
That's a stroke of luck for Alex, not for anything else.
dan friesen
Could be.
So, Alex goes international, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Why?
What's he doing outside?
dan friesen
Ah, no.
Someone fucking showed him a video on Twitter.
alex jones
So, meanwhile, Antifa attacks anti-pedophile demonstration.
Police say they did a good job, basically.
Protected them.
dan friesen
So, that was in Ireland.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I was able to find this video.
And so, what's going on is it's some kind of a demonstration that's going on on the streets.
It's tough to say exactly what's going on, and then some loud music starts playing.
The camera cuts over to two people holding up a banner that says, quote, all you fascists bound to lose, standing next to a setup of what looks like at least like five amps.
The crowd then descends on them, tears up the banner, and kicks over the amps, and it's hard to keep track of where people are in the crowd, but I would not be surprised if they got roughed up a bit.
This was challenging, but I was able to find some context for this.
This is an event that is called an anti-pedophilia rally in the same way that Milo Yiannopoulos speaking events on college campuses are pro-free speech.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's essentially an extreme right-wing group using the cover of something that you probably can't possibly be against in order to give them cover to operate their stealthier agenda.
You see this a lot with people like Tommy Robinson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Cancel culture.
dan friesen
Oh, those fascists are so smart.
This rally was being run by a guy named Justin Barrett, the leader of the National Party.
According to The Beacon, in 1998, Barrett wrote a book called The National Way Forward in which he, quote, calls for a constitution configured according to Catholic doctrine and the creation of a Catholic dictatorship.
jordan holmes
That's always worked well in the past for Ireland!
dan friesen
This, he argues, is the only way to save Ireland from the scourge of liberalism and immorality.
jordan holmes
Oh, can't do it.
dan friesen
He's staunchly opposed to immigration, entirely against reproductive rights to the point of advocating the death penalty for abortion doctors, and seems to support the criminalization of homosexuality and divorce.
On at least three occasions, he's spoken at events held by the German neo-Nazi party NPD, including one event in 2000 where he was the guest of honor.
In 2002, in the Irish Times, they include what is described as a quote stinging rebuke of Barrett from John Smythe.
Who's the spokesperson of the anti-abortion pro-life campaign.
jordan holmes
Even he hates him.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
No amount of evasion or spin on Mr. Barrett's part can explain away the seriousness of attending such conferences.
It's nonsense to contend that speaking at a neo-fascist rally somehow serves the interests of building a more caring pro-life culture or the broader human rights agenda which he claims to espouse.
The groups with which Mr. Barrett and Youth Defense are reported to be associated have an agenda of social exclusion and political extremism, far removed from the ethos of respect and moderation that should animate the pro-life movement.
You know, keep your scoffing aside and whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Your point is valid, but even this guy can recognize, like, this guy's a fucking fascist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're there, you're gone.
dan friesen
Even ideological allies in the realm of abortion recognize that this dude's a fucking asshole and probably a Nazi.
Barrett was a leader of an Irish group called Youth Defense, which is mentioned in that guy's quote, which is a really bad group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
The NPD's Youth Division, the Young National Democrats, held a conference in 1999 where Barrett spoke by virtue of his connection with Youth Defense.
Also in attendance there was William Luther Pierce, the author of the Turner Diaries.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great.
dan friesen
This is the guy who was running this rally in Ireland, so it kind of makes sense that there were some counter-demonstrators who would show up and protest.
It's very easy to pretend that their protest was somehow anti-pedophilia in nature, but when you have a better understanding of who's holding the rally, you should get the picture that this rally was not anti-pedophile to begin with.
That's a fascist rally wearing an anti-pedophile hat.
That's what's going on there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
At every anti-pedophile rally, we do start with the Sigh Heil, but that's just tradition, Dan.
It's not about that.
It's not about those, okay, sure, the swastikas everywhere.
dan friesen
There were a bunch of pictures of people holding signs of bruises.
jordan holmes
We were neutral in the war, Dan!
dan friesen
It's a mess.
So, Alex gets complaining.
You brought up cancel culture there.
Alex has some thoughts.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course he does.
The discourse.
dan friesen
About a buddy of his.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
And if you'd like to stand up to the globalists and stand up to the main Paul Revere operation, battering, ramming the New World Order, other than Tucker Carlson, they're trying to take off the air right now.
Please support him.
Please get products at InfoWarsStore.com or by calling 888-253-3139.
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Free shipping and double Patriot points.
dan friesen
Weird voice.
jordan holmes
That is a weird voice.
dan friesen
So, on Friday, it was revealed that Tucker Carlson's top writer, Blake Neff, had been using an alias to post a bunch of racist and sexist stuff on a web forum.
jordan holmes
A writer for Tucker?
dan friesen
According to an examination by CNN, quote, there has at times also been overlap between some material he posted or saw in the forum and Carlson's show.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
This is a guy who is a Tucker guy.
Prior to working on the show, he was a reporter at the Daily Caller, which is a blog that Tucker co-founded.
unidentified
Yeesh.
dan friesen
This is a guy who worked for Tucker and Tucker-adjacent entities for years, which makes it a little hard to shrug off as just like, eh, it's a random employee.
This wasn't something he'd been doing years ago, either.
This was current behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it was a hobby.
What are you gonna...
You gonna judge a guy for...
Some people, they whittle.
Some people build canoes.
This guy's a massive racist.
What are you gonna do?
It's a hobby.
dan friesen
Interesting perspective.
jordan holmes
Doesn't get in the way of his professional.
dan friesen
There's also a quote from Neff that quote, anything Carlson is reading off the teleprompter, the first draft is written by me.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Sure, there's that.
But that doesn't mean that Tucker knew about it.
dan friesen
Sure.
Neff resigned on Friday, and then on Monday, Tucker announced that he was taking a, quote, long-planned vacation.
jordan holmes
Planned!
dan friesen
Which is suspicious.
jordan holmes
Planned!
dan friesen
In the fact that it's exactly what he did when all his advertisers bailed last August.
jordan holmes
Planned years in advance.
Sure, sure he did.
This is an around-the-world-in-80-days kind of situation.
dan friesen
This is not cancel culture run amok.
This is a revelation that the head writer for an increasingly racist talk show host is, in fact, a guy who posts racist shit online under an alias, and now people get to make up their minds what they want to think about it.
Obviously, Fox News thought it wasn't cool because the dude resigned since he almost certainly would have been fired to try and put out the story.
Some more advertisers might bail, but...
Tucker's hoping he can just wait this out on another vacation and come back in a few weeks with a new racist head writer who's much better at anonymity.
jordan holmes
Of which he is almost certainly correct.
dan friesen
And it's not like he could ever shake the MyPillow guy.
That guy's gonna sponsor his show no matter what.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Imagining that Fox News cares.
That Tucker cares.
That Neff cares.
That, frankly, anybody cares other than people who are like...
We're way past this, man.
We already knew that he was racist.
I don't care if he posts anywhere.
Just him being on...
If you work on Tucker's show, there's a good chance you're racist.
dan friesen
Probably.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
I mean, at least on some level.
jordan holmes
Even if you're a camera guy.
If you're a camera guy that listens to that on a daily basis...
dan friesen
It seems like it would be tough.
jordan holmes
That'd be tough.
dan friesen
I don't know, though.
I'm trying to compare this to when I worked at a roast beef place.
I thought the food was kind of gross, but I still worked there.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
I don't think it's the same.
jordan holmes
The food never said the N-word in private, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
The roast beef was pretty cool in terms of that.
jordan holmes
It was very laconic.
It was one word roast beef.
dan friesen
Hard to say.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So that voice that Alex was doing that was super weird was, well, he was talking about Tucker and how you need to support him and you need to support Alex, too.
And, of course, it's part of a sales pitch.
Alex says something really weird about his iodine.
I mean, we've heard stuff like this before, but I just wanted to keep this in just to keep a little marker on this.
alex jones
Survival Shield X3, the good tri-iodine to get that key building block to your whole body that's essential that so many people are deficient in.
The UN estimates over 2 million people have mental disabilities or lower IQs because they didn't get enough iodine or not getting enough iodine.
It's the ambrosia, the key, the real adrenochrome that God gave us.
dan friesen
He's signaling to QAnon weirdos and those people who are all into the adrenochrome stuff.
Although, he's been on board with that probably longer than they have.
jordan holmes
I would give him that.
dan friesen
What was it?
Early 2017, I think, was when he had Eddie Bravo on and he was trying to tell him about how...
The elites drink your adrenochrome.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he might actually predate a lot of the QAnon people.
He might want to try and reclaim that from them.
jordan holmes
I've been hearing about adrenochrome for a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's been a while.
Anyway, I just think that's funny, Alex being like, my iodine's the real adrenochrome.
jordan holmes
I don't know why you think it's a good idea to compare it to adrenochrome.
dan friesen
That seems weird.
jordan holmes
That does seem like it defeats your purpose.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, but based on how they've built it up, like, the elites must get really high on that stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So it must be pretty awesome.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, don't you want something you can get really high onto?
unidentified
Yeah, but...
dan friesen
Iodine.
jordan holmes
But the elites know about iodine.
If it's better than adrenochrome!
dan friesen
Not nascent iodine.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Not tri-iodine or whatever the fuck Alex sells.
jordan holmes
You know what?
You're right.
dan friesen
Deep earth crystals.
jordan holmes
I made the mistake there.
The elites don't know about anything below the earth.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So just after our last episode came out, I hopped on Twitter while I was doing some editing.
Sure.
And I see some upsetting headlines about the White House releasing some opposition research on...
Dr. Fauci.
jordan holmes
It's great.
It's great.
No, no, no.
That's what you want from an executive branch.
dan friesen
I felt really weird about that because we had played a clip on the episode of Alex talking about taking credit for Fauci being on the outs and stuff.
And I felt like people might not know that we were recording that before that news came out.
So we were not aware of that at all.
And now that that has happened, Alex is thrilled.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And he talks about that a little bit more.
alex jones
The White House.
Made a list of all the times Fauci has been wrong on coronavirus.
That's out of the Daily Beast.
They're so upset and so mad that anyone would even keep score and see is an expert accurate.
Like a football coach that lost every play, every game, never put one point on the board, you'd fire them in a couple games.
dan friesen
The thing I can't get my head around right now is why Trump just doesn't fire Fauci.
Like, what could possibly be stopping him from firing the dude?
Well, you still decide that it's a good idea to just keep him in his position while trying to undermine his ability to do the job.
jordan holmes
Absolutely no clue.
dan friesen
I have no idea what's going on.
jordan holmes
What, is somebody going to hold him accountable for it?
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
It's so baffling to me, but I guess that might be an indication of how dictators operate when they're not sure in their footing yet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
I don't care about this dumb fuck political posture.
Uh-uh.
And I'm mostly only keeping this and the next clip in, kind of to be like, well, I certainly hope this doesn't look really, really terrible in a couple months.
alex jones
Now, I told you back in May that I challenged the president on air and off air to sideline Fauci and to use that term as a code word that he understood what was happening and was going to build a case to actually destroy Gates and Fauci.
Now, I don't know if Trump's going to go that way.
He'll get somebody close before he destroys them, but he has got Gates in there right now and this whole vaccine commission, I think, to keep his enemies close.
dan friesen
So, Alex is taking responsibility for feeding the information to Trump to get Fauci on the outs, and he's insisting that Trump is communicating with him in secret code using the word sideline.
So, great.
jordan holmes
Trump also placed an ad in the Austin Statesman that only Alex knows how to read.
It's not an acrostic, but it's every eighth word.
The second letter of every eighth word is how Alex gets his messages.
And this last one said great job.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I read it.
dan friesen
Well, that's pretty...
You've got to frame that.
jordan holmes
It's really cool.
It's really cool, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets into discussing virus stuff being a hoax.
Sure.
And one of the big headlines on this is that there was a guy who is a correspondent for NBC and MSNBC, and he had had coronavirus, or he believed that he had COVID-19, and it turns out, what do you know?
He ends up getting an antibody test.
It comes back negative.
So Alex believes that this is proof that this is all a hoax.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's not good.
unidentified
It really, you know, I can't say that I had a brush with death, but it was enough to put me in the ICU for four days and in the hospital for six days.
alex jones
And we have the link on Infowars.com, NBC News, little footnote, he did not have COVID.
He tested negative, which means he hasn't had a cold or the flu in 10 years on average, and it didn't show up.
Unbelievable.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That's not what that means.
Now, Alex is going on and on about how this doctor who was interviewed on NBC, you know, he claimed to have COVID-19 and it's now a hoax.
It's really confusing because the clip Alex plays is just that guy, Dr. Joseph Fair, explaining that he was really sick and it's no joke, even if you don't have underlying conditions.
In reality, Alex is kind of just fudging this story.
In May, Fair got really sick, and according to his telling of it, he had basically all of the symptoms that are associated with COVID-19.
He got some nasal swab tests, some of them at home, and they came back negative.
But because he was presenting as a very likely COVID case, and there's the possibility of false negatives, his case was presumed to be COVID.
Now, a couple months later, after he's made a recovery, Fair got an antibody test, which came back negative.
And this presents a number of possible scenarios that could be going on here.
The first is that he had an unknown condition that was very similar in progression of symptoms to COVID-19, and he recovered from it, leaving this a medical mystery that remains to be solved.
It's also possible that the nasal swabs he took were false negatives, but the antibody test could be accurate.
This would mean that he did have COVID-19, but he doesn't have antibodies that would show up in a test for them.
That is conceivably possible.
As of this point, it's unclear exactly what's up here, but Fair has said he's consulting more doctors to try and get to the bottom of what happened.
He's seeing additional experts, and he's taking a follow-up antibody test, so hopefully he'll be able to get to the bottom of what happened.
The scenario that I think is most unlikely in all this is what Alex is suggesting, namely that Dr. Fair faked his illness or something to hype COVID-19 fears.
That seems a little ridiculous, and if he really had faked everything...
Why would he then reveal that he tested negative for the antibody test?
It's not like his doctor could even legally release that information.
He put that out himself.
If this was all a staged hoax, why would you do that?
That makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the most terrifying possibility is one that is becoming more and more researched and there's more and more evidence for it is that the antibodies go away.
You don't have permanent immunity to it.
dan friesen
That could be a factor in this.
It's unclear.
jordan holmes
That's terrifying.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's unclear if that plays a role in this story.
And I mean, I'm not going to keep track of it necessarily, but if it comes up, we'll check back in on it.
But I mean, this guy's not a prop.
He's not like a cardboard cutout.
This is a guy who's living his life.
jordan holmes
False flag.
dan friesen
The idea that he's sitting there and like...
I mean, you're just a human being.
If you're in the ICU for a while and you presume that you have COVID-19, and then you end up having some sort of an indication that maybe you didn't, that's kind of even scarier.
Because now you're like, well, what I had could come back, could be a chronic condition of some kind.
It's pretty scary.
So I would assume that he's going to continue trying to figure out what's going on, if only for his own...
Sanity and health.
jordan holmes
I mean, how many times have you heard, or I've even felt it, of the moment I got my diagnosis of bipolar, I was like, oh, thank God there's a reason and I understand it.
If it was then ripped away from me and it's like, we have no fucking clue what's wrong with you, that would be terrifying in its own manner.
dan friesen
It's so scary.
I kind of had the reverse when I was younger.
When I was really depressed and lethargic as a teen and such, they were like...
It's probably something with your thyroid.
They convinced me almost that there's a really good chance that we'll just have to give you this and everything will be better.
And it wasn't that.
Got my hopes dashed.
But, Jordan, now we get to the point in this July 12th episode that we've been waiting for.
Roger Stone.
Is not here.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But Alex does get back to the Wayfair thing.
He wanted to talk a little bit more about some dumb shit his audience sent out.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
He's really warming up to this in a way that I think will look bad.
alex jones
So when I saw this Wayfair thing break Friday with the big online vendor site competition to Amazon, I looked at it and it was so ridiculous.
$100, $200 cabinets for $10,000, $13,000, $14,000, $15,000, $16,000, $17,000.
And pillows that were maybe $30 for $5,000.
With, in some cases, the names of missing children on them.
And I thought, with Ghislaine Maxwell breaking and the giant pedophile rings getting busted breaking and getting almost no coverage.
The big rings are busted.
Ghislaine's getting coverage.
I said, This just looks too ridiculous.
I mean, obviously the media spun it that they're not shipping kids in the containers.
No, but it could be money laundering.
It's a symbol of the container that we're going to deliver this child to you.
Obviously it wasn't somebody adding more zeros on who made a mistake.
dan friesen
So apparently the money laundering option was also about selling kids.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Trafficked people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
It's a promise that they will deliver you a kid.
dan friesen
I'm worried.
jordan holmes
Through Wayfair's portal.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm worried for Alex in the sense that, I mean, I don't care.
I hope he gets sued.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But it's like, you're doing this again.
I worry for the sake of just as a case study of a person who should know better.
You know, you would think, like we were even discussing this on the last episode, that like...
Alex did have to give a gigantic apology to James Oliphantus.
It was a humiliating thing where he had to do that or else he was going to get sued.
It made for a lot of trouble.
He had to get rid of Joe Biggs because of the Pizzagate coverage.
He ended up spending months and months trying to pretend that he didn't do Pizzagate stuff.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He has a lot of work.
Videos deleted from YouTube.
jordan holmes
A lot of effort.
dan friesen
Like, you don't need to do this.
You can take a pass on the Wayfair thing.
It's not going to stick around for a very long time.
It's just some dumb QAnon bullshit that's going to happen for a bit, and then they'll move on to the next thing.
jordan holmes
I will tell you, I think there is one case study that I can recall that reminds me very similarly of this.
And it's the case study of one Wile E. Coyote.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Just doesn't learn.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Just can't learn.
There are other things to eat in that desert, man.
unidentified
There is.
dan friesen
I get it.
jordan holmes
Look, it's a roadrunner.
dan friesen
You run into cactuses all the time.
jordan holmes
It looks delicious, but there's other stuff out there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, apparently, Alex had somebody sent him some stuff on Amazon, and this changed his mind or something.
jordan holmes
That did it.
alex jones
Here's what changed my mind partially.
dan friesen
Partially.
alex jones
And I'm still looking at this, and I'm not sure what's going on.
jordan holmes
I hate you.
alex jones
I'm going to show you some of this.
This is shocking.
Take hours to go over all of it.
I'll try my best.
It turns out all these other big shopping carts, Amazon, you name it, going back years have the exact same code words, and it turns out that Backpage and Craigslist got caught with prostitution and similar things and sex trafficking of kidnapped women and children years ago.
dan friesen
I don't know.
There's just similar stuff on Amazon.
jordan holmes
Here's my evidence.
Going on for a long time that nobody's noticed.
Different things.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit more about this, and he has a couple of specifics that we can sort of nail into.
alex jones
But let's actually get into these.
This isn't Wayfarer.
This is Amazon.
And it's got these pillows that, again, is $18,000.
And then it starts telling you, normally sold for $20, the names of it and what it does.
And I'm not going to show you all of this, folks, but some of this is naked babies.
That are shriveled like they're starving to death?
I'll show you some of it.
And then the weird comments in these have all this code word.
I tossed the helicopter.
I drank the scotch.
dan friesen
So the reviews that Alex is talking about there at the end, they're not cryptic and full of code words.
They're troll reviews that people have left over the years for these products.
There's an entire subculture of people who write fake reviews for things on Amazon without buying the products.
Just what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Some of them often very funny.
dan friesen
There aren't pictures of emaciated kids on Amazon.
What Alex is talking about is something that QAnon weirdos found online by searching for the SKU numbers for these products in a very specific place.
The SKU for a product is the stock-keeping unit number, and it's what retailers use to track inventory.
As it turns out, if you take these SKU numbers for these suspicious items, then add SRC USA to them, and then you search for that in the Russian search engine Yandex, you come up with some questionable image results.
Some of them are children.
jordan holmes
Are people doing Yandex searches now?
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
Is that something I've been missing out on?
dan friesen
This was not something I cared to research myself, but thankfully there are others who already got to the bottom of it.
The account DapperGander on Twitter has a great thread fully explaining what's going on, which I'll sum up here as best I can.
There is a Russian image-sharing site called IMGSRC, where people should definitely not go.
It was essentially formally like PhotoBucket, but since as early as 2014, it's been taken over by pedophiles who post some awful shit there.
American search engines filter out results that come from this Russian image-sharing site because of the high incidence of illegal images that would come up in the results.
But that filter does not exist for the Russian search engine Yandex, which is why QAnon weirdos insist on using that search engine in order to prove their conspiracy.
Basically, if you search for SRC along with just about anything on Yandex, you'll have a very high likelihood of finding some at least questionable pictures.
So what this boils down to is basically a scam.
It's a trap, and it appears to have worked in terms of swinging Alex Jones.
He's fallen for this bait.
The master of research in reality got fooled by a Pizzagate Yeah, I don't like that bad faith actors can use monsters to portray Good faith actors as monsters, while bad faith actors continue the entire cycle over and over and over again without doing anything positive in the world.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yep.
But Alex, you know, he's realized he was wrong.
jordan holmes
Good.
alex jones
This is sick, folks.
This is going back several years.
2018, 2019.
unidentified
So...
alex jones
I have egg on my face.
I can't...
Alex Jones cannot believe they're this bad.
But I guess they are.
My God.
This is just...
Finally, Dracula reveals himself.
Best pillow ever!
dan friesen
So, Alex has now decided that...
jordan holmes
Somebody paint that road on the side of a cliff.
Just go ahead and paint that road and let's see if he runs right on into that rock.
dan friesen
Alex has decided...
And granted, it's a good idea to do this on a Sunday show because less people are listening.
In case you want to not really commit to this...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
You can pretend maybe that you didn't say, oh, this is all totally...
jordan holmes
I said I was...
Look, I said I was on the fence about it along with the devil.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's right there.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, unfortunately, he does explicitly say that this is not a PSYOP.
alex jones
It just goes on and on.
This is no mistake.
This is no PSYOP.
This is, this is.
And then it actually shows the little girls.
Oh, my God.
$29,000 for these little girls right here.
It's even got the product code for you right there.
We'll be right back with more.
unidentified
*music*
dan friesen
So, I don't think he could be much clearer than that.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Really going for it.
dan friesen
Hope this doesn't turn out poorly and more embarrassingly.
I have to give another apology to the CEO of Wayfair or whatever.
jordan holmes
I guess a bullet's going to be fired into the internet.
dan friesen
Do you have to give Bezos an apology now?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
No one should apologize to Bezos for anything.
dan friesen
We come back here on the 13th now.
The 12th is mostly just...
He's gone.
Wayfair.
No stone.
This episode on the 13th is like, okay.
Roger didn't show up on Sunday.
Maybe he's still hungover.
Monday, you've got to be there.
jordan holmes
He's got to be there.
dan friesen
You've got to be there.
jordan holmes
100% has to be there.
dan friesen
He does not show up.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
No, Roger.
jordan holmes
I just want Alex to apologize to us.
We have been trying for years to tell him that Stone is going to rat fuck him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And here, it doesn't get...
alex jones
Oh, Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, Roger doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Apologize to us.
dan friesen
So, instead of doing the days overdue, hey, Roger, what's going on?
Sure.
Alex just...
Continues being pretty racist and talks about this Indiana story a little bit more.
alex jones
And then I'm going to show you the footage and the newscast about the white woman being shot to death.
And the point is, there's now 12 to 1 black-on-white crime.
And the media is encouraging it.
And so some deranged, criminal, mentally ill black people, not even a large minority, but a very active, vicious, small minority, black folks are going out.
Mainly black males, about 13 to 25, and targeting white people with knockout games and shooting them in the head and stabbing them.
And this is all going on, and the media is all busy covering it up.
dan friesen
So there's a cover-up in the media of black males between 13 and 25 who are out to kill and knock out game white people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't think of any media in American history that would almost primarily focus on 13 to 25-year-old black males as being evil.
dan friesen
I certainly don't feel like this has any sort of historical analog.
jordan holmes
I mean, it definitely hasn't sustained 30,000 seasons of Law and Orders in their various spinoffs.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets to talk in here.
I mean, here's the thing.
I understand what you're saying.
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
dan friesen
Alex appears to be a bit racist.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, you would think that if you didn't know all the facts.
Right.
There's one fact that's kind of important, and that is something we've heard Alex say before, in that no black person who is alive has been the subject of more racism than Alex himself.
jordan holmes
We have heard that before.
dan friesen
He talks about that a little bit more.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
I grew up in Dallas, Texas, and I had a lot of black friends as I played sports, and they thought I was crazy when my parents would drop me off in, you know, their neighborhood.
Because that area, Rockwall, Texas, had an area that was the older part of town from the older part of the city, and it was mainly the black part of town.
And there were some racist black people there.
And I got attacked a few times, but my parents were like, well, that's how you make your child tough, kind of old-fashioned.
I guarantee you there aren't any black people out there probably walking around that have been, let's not exaggerate.
I mean, I probably had, I got in over 100 fights with black people.
And almost every time they initiated it.
And, you know, I'd beat up some guy my age when I was like 15, and then his brother who was out of prison would catch me at McDonald's, and, you know, it would get into a really bad situation.
And that'll teach you how to fight when somebody's trying to kill you.
So, I guarantee you, there's no black people out there that have ever had 100 white people start fights with.
dan friesen
Presented without comment.
jordan holmes
I can think of 10 US representatives.
dan friesen
Here's something I want to say just sort of axiomatically.
If you have gotten in 100 fights in your life, that's about you.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because most people don't.
jordan holmes
No, that's a regular thing.
dan friesen
Period.
If you've been in 100 fist fights, that speaks more about you than it does about anybody else.
jordan holmes
That's the normal amount.
dan friesen
There's a hundred incidents that have happened.
And you are the only commonality between all of those 100 fights.
jordan holmes
You and race.
dan friesen
Well, that's the second thing.
If Alex is getting in 100 fights with black people...
That's the secondary element that makes it even more about you.
jordan holmes
Somehow, I don't feel like that number suggests he's blameless.
dan friesen
I think maybe his perspective and perception that they initiated it every time might be a little bit biased.
Might be something I don't trust very much.
jordan holmes
To play sports with Alex Jones.
Hey, I'll pass you the ball.
I'll pass you the ball.
But first...
Have you heard of the John Birch Society?
dan friesen
Maybe it would be fun to play sports with before he was 12 or whatever.
Before he learned about Nundere.
But yeah, man.
I don't know.
I can't parse any of that stuff.
I don't even necessarily believe his numbers are accurate.
But if you're getting in a lot of fights, that indicates something about you less than it does about other people responding to you, I believe.
jordan holmes
And if you're saying it like that, you already know the answer to your question.
dan friesen
So Alex's coverage of that story about the woman in Indianapolis, it had a large trend of trying to make white people afraid of non-white people.
If people are yelling Black Lives Matter at you, there's a chance.
There's a minority of the minority of black youths who are out to kill white people for fun.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's all just this.
There's just a building of this sort of race-based fear that Alex wants to instill.
alex jones
And of course, they haven't caught who did it, and the police are overwhelmed, and it's not their fault.
Even if you're armed, you're not safe.
You just saw that.
Let me tell you.
East Austin's not safe.
Downtown Austin's not safe.
There's murders all the time.
Robbing, stabbing, shootings.
Most of it's racial.
Nothing is going to be done about it.
These areas are not safe.
Don't let anybody lie to you.
Any leftist city is not safe.
Period.
Because control has been lost.
dan friesen
So control has been lost in left-leaning areas.
And the specifics that he seems to be operating off of are various places where there's a lot of stabbings and shootings, and they're almost all racially based.
So these places, it's not so much that they're not safe.
They're not safe for white people.
That's the image that he's trying to just reinforce over and over again.
Like, you're in danger, white man.
jordan holmes
I will say this right now.
If you are thinking about leaving Chicago because it's too leftist for you, go for it.
Get on out of here.
Go on, get on!
Go into the forest!
Come on, get out of here!
You can have a great time in that forest.
dan friesen
To be fair, it has nothing to do with any sort of politics, but I do want to go to the forest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, see, there you go.
dan friesen
That's different, though.
I just want to commune with trees.
So, in this next clip, Alex discusses Chick-fil-A being a bunch of sellouts.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
alex jones
If we keep capitulating, everyone keeps bowing like Chick-fil-A does now and everything.
jordan holmes
And everything?
alex jones
Then there's no future.
You know, Chick-fil-A's business doubled in one year when they said, we're not able for staying closed on Sunday.
And Hobby Lobby did the same thing.
He said, hey, we don't push our religion on you, but we're off on Sunday.
We're Christians.
jordan holmes
Is that what they said, though?
alex jones
It's good to rest the day anyways.
jordan holmes
Alex.
unidentified
Is that one of those?
alex jones
But now again, Chick-fil-A's son has taken over, and he is a candy-ass.
Probably being blackmailed, but probably being blackmailed.
unidentified
I am Chick-fil-A Jr., and I have decided to take over.
dan friesen
So to be clear, the problem with Chick-fil-A and Hobby Lobby wasn't that they closed on Sundays.
jordan holmes
No, I'm pretty sure it was the Sunday thing.
dan friesen
Businesses have the absolute right to set their own hours, and there are countless businesses that are closed on Sundays or even on weekends, and no one cares.
jordan holmes
No, and we're all really mad about it.
dan friesen
The problem people had with Chick-fil-A was that their owners were pretty anti-LGBTQ and were pretty public about it.
Their then-CEO Dan Cathy said in 2012 that allowing same-sex marriage was, quote, inviting God's judgment on our nation.
These comments naturally got some folks unhappy, and in response, a bunch of anti-LGBTQ forces on the right wing turned Chick-fil-A into a pillar of their identity.
That was the chicken company that fought for their interests.
Mike Huckabee tried to get a Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day going, and it sort of became a way of engaging in homophobic trolling.
People wanted to publicly express a disdain for LGBTQ people, but instead of doing it directly, they'd just make a big deal out of supporting Chick-fil-A.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was almost like they were stoked because they were like, oh, thank God, I don't need to say awful things.
I can eat a chicken sandwich and express how much I'm filled with hate.
dan friesen
In the process of this whole conversation, it came out that the Cathy's had given millions to anti-gay organizations, including ones that promoted conversion therapy.
This was what people had a problem with as it related to Chick-fil-A and that's what Alex is upset that they're not doing anymore because they announced in 2020 that they'll no longer give money to groups that have explicitly anti-gay positions.
So that's what Alex is pissed off about.
jordan holmes
Are you sure it wasn't because we all just assumed that if they were open on Sunday, they wouldn't have time to be this homophobic?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm pretty sure that's what we were all thinking.
dan friesen
So for Hobby Lobby, the reason people didn't like them is that they believed that they shouldn't have to provide insurance plans for their employees that included birth control, which was a requirement and a part of the Affordable Care Act.
jordan holmes
And they did that because they don't want to force their religion onto you.
That's why they did that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
People objected to a business essentially deciding...
Oh, and then there was that whole thing in 2017 when it came out that Hobby Lobby's owner, Mr. Green, he'd paid a $3 million settlement after being found to have bought, quote, smuggled Iraqi antiquities to put in his collection of Bible memorabilia.
According to MSNBC, quote, Hobby Lobby hired an expert who warned that the artifacts might have been looted and counseled them to make sure the country of origin was properly labeled on customs forms.
Instead, according to the Justice Department, the 5,500 artifacts were shipped without proper documentation.
jordan holmes
That seems suspicious.
dan friesen
Yeah, very bad.
And then, back in March, there was that whole thing where Hobby Lobby told their employees that they were going to stay open, despite the rise in concerns about COVID-19, because Green's wife, Barbara, had received a message from God saying that everything was cool.
jordan holmes
But they're not going to force their religion on anyone, Dan.
That's why we are mad at them.
dan friesen
And then they ended up closing all their stores in April.
No one cares about these businesses being closed on Sunday.
That's totally fine.
The problem is that they have other societally destructive behaviors that they carry out in the name of their religion, which people just shouldn't be allowed to engage in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it seems like he knows that that's why people were mad.
He's specifically not bringing it up.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why he pretends it's just they're closed on Sunday and they love God.
jordan holmes
Must be because they're closed on Sunday.
dan friesen
No, it's because of support.
Supporting things like conversion therapy, being openly anti-gay, and then trying to flout the Affordable Care Act, and looting Iraq!
jordan holmes
Okay, there is that.
But those are honestly all-time honored American traditions, if we really get down to it.
dan friesen
You're not wrong.
So anyway, Roger's not on today, but...
alex jones
I've talked to Roger Stone today, and I have a lot of inside basketball.
Fuck you, Alex!
And I'm just going to leave it at that.
He would be here.
He would be on Hannity tonight if he's able to.
But we're not sure.
If he does do Hannity tonight, he'll be here tomorrow.
jordan holmes
If.
If.
alex jones
But he's not yet.
There's a lot of stuff behind the scenes I'm at liberty to get into.
dan friesen
So sad.
So sad, man.
jordan holmes
That is sad.
Wow.
If he's on Hannity.
You know, Stone might be too busy to go on Hannity tonight.
dan friesen
There's some behind the scenes stuff.
jordan holmes
There's behind the scenes stuff.
He might not be able to.
dan friesen
So, turns out, a lot of people have been sort of curious about where Alex stands on the 5G stuff and coronavirus.
Because there's a lot of people who, in the sort of weirder fringe, Communities who believe that it plays a much larger role than Alex necessarily says.
However, it turns out the water might be muddier than we think.
alex jones
Did people point out to me three months ago that, hey, you know you had Dr. Groupon two and a half, three years ago, and he showed documents where 5G in China was causing an autoimmune response in the lungs and people think they were dying because there was no liquid.
And I called Groupon up and he goes, yeah, that's why I won't talk to you.
That's why I won't come on.
I love you, brother.
They threatened him really bad.
He said he didn't understand why it was that at the time, but he hit the key.
This electromagnetic radiation system is getting so powerful that it's definitely exacerbating autoimmune responses in the lungs.
And so what David Icke said about 5G is true.
It's really exacerbating it.
dan friesen
First things first, David Icke didn't say that 5G is exacerbating the condition that people are having.
He said there's no virus, which is a different claim.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Also, with this whole thing about Dr. Group discovering that this is a byproduct of 5G, that's pretty incompatible with the rest of Alex's narrative.
jordan holmes
Well, it's a hoax that Dr. Group discovered.
dan friesen
If this is just a 5G thing, then what happened with all the stories about the Wuhan lab?
jordan holmes
That was months ago!
dan friesen
If you just take a second to think about it, you'll quickly run into a wall where nothing makes sense anymore.
All of the narratives about Fauci and Bill Gates creating a virus as a bioweapon either becomes completely superfluous, or it has to be readjusted to now actually be about them researching a specific virus that works well with 5G, which hasn't been demonstrated up to this point.
Everything needs to change to accommodate this, and Alex hasn't done that.
This just makes no sense.
Ah, or it's a lucky accident.
jordan holmes
This is another one of those moments where he said that and I'm just like...
I guess this is what we're doing then, huh?
I guess we're doing this.
Alright!
dan friesen
This is one of these where I just roll my eyes.
jordan holmes
Alright!
dan friesen
You're gonna ignore this tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
This is...
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I completely forgot that this was actually all...
Created in the Wuhan lab before it didn't exist.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Before it never existed.
dan friesen
Now it's just 5G or something.
jordan holmes
And now it does exist, but it's 5G.
dan friesen
Yeah, I might have just ignored that, but it's been a while since we've had a 5G mention.
And then also Dr. Group getting a shout out.
jordan holmes
Hey, gotta let everybody know.
dan friesen
Alex pretending that he's been threatened.
jordan holmes
They're still best friends, though.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to Roger.
Alex explains a little bit about why Roger isn't around.
alex jones
And there's the reason you haven't heard Roger Stone on this show yet.
He may end up getting on today, tomorrow.
He may do Hannity tonight.
Roger Stone's judge orders DOJ to submit Trump's commutation order.
And so he's still under her jurisdiction, and there's little noises out there.
She might gag him again.
Why not?
Be a total tyrant.
So he can't fight while they attack him going forward on his appeal.
dan friesen
So here's where things get a little messy for Alex and Roger.
It looks like Trump put out a press release and announcement that Roger's sentence was commuted and he was being granted clemency.
But it looks like he didn't actually provide the appropriate information to the judge in Roger's case, which is causing a little bit of an issue.
According to an article in Time about this, quote...
Although presidents have brought authority to commute prison sentences and issue pardons, the brief order from Jackson, who presided over Stone's trial last year, made clear that the judge still is seeking information and clarity about the clemency, including the actual executive order from the White House, which has not been provided for her.
jordan holmes
This is 100% like, this is fucking lethal weapon.
This is like...
Oh, you're a loose cannon.
He's doing all that shit.
And then it's like, no, in real life, you still have to do the fucking paperwork.
dan friesen
Someone has to.
jordan holmes
Someone has to do the paperwork.
dan friesen
I'm sure it'll get worked out already.
There are some issues here, but they can't possibly be what's keeping Roger from coming on InfoWars.
Maybe that's the excuse Roger is giving Alex, but Roger's not under any kind of gag order, and he's not afraid to speak out.
On Monday, Roger appeared on Sean Hannity's show in an exclusive first interview since the commutation of his sentence.
jordan holmes
Because I heard he might not have showed up.
dan friesen
No, he was there.
jordan holmes
I heard there was a possibility that he might not have showed up.
dan friesen
He showed up and he did not hold back.
He was talking shit about the judge and the prosecution all over the place.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
The only reason Roger isn't on Alex's show now days after the commutation is because Roger is choosing not to come on.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe it's because he knows better, or maybe it's just a thing where he agreed not to appear anywhere before Hannity in return for that booking.
It's hard to know exactly what's up, but no matter how you slice it, it's abundantly clear that Alex is not a high priority for Roger anymore.
Alex threw him a clemency celebration party on Alex's day off, and Roger didn't show up.
Alex said Roger was going to be on the show on Sunday, and he didn't show up.
Now on Monday, Alex claims that he has some kind of inside baseball stuff that's keeping Roger from coming on, but he's totally fine being on Hannity the same day.
This is pathetic.
Just grow up and recognize this dude doesn't give a fuck.
You're not useful anymore, Alex.
jordan holmes
I didn't see any of it, because I was trying to avoid it in case we wound up playing clips of the interview or anything like that.
dan friesen
I was thinking about it, but who cares?
jordan holmes
But the one thing I did catch was he did thank people, and there was multiple people that was listed in the article.
And I noticed one name was strikingly absent.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It seemed like...
dan friesen
Alex didn't get a thank you?
jordan holmes
It seemed like if he were to thank Alex Jones, that would have been included in the article very highly, right?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
If Stone goes, because they gave a bunch of, like, Matt Gaetz and all of that stuff, and if he had thanked Alex Jones, that would have been, Stone thanks Alex Jones right off the bat.
dan friesen
Would have been great as if he thanked the Proud Boys, but not Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally, totally.
I'd like to thank Gavin McGinnis, and fuck it, I'll thank Gavin Newsom, but, oh, I think I might be forgetting a name.
Nope, not forgetting a name.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't have Roger, and it's glaring.
It's pretty conspicuous.
jordan holmes
God, what a sad boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, so instead he takes calls for the second and third hour.
And they're really not good calls.
They're very boring.
He does get one call where they discuss voter fraud and how it's going to be a big problem.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Alex brings up a case in point, man.
alex jones
Catch, sir!
unidentified
Catch!
alex jones
Musical are getting ballots in the mail.
Cats are getting voter registration.
They're just scraping all names they know of legal, illegal, dead, you name it.
And they're sending them out to key addresses of Democrats.
dan friesen
This is a fun story and all, but a cat didn't get a ballot in the mail.
According to this guy in Atlanta, he received a voter registration application in the mail in the name of his cat that's been dead for 12 years.
There's a number of possibilities for what could be going on here.
One is that his cat's name may have been used in some kind of a registration list at some point in the past, and someone scraping lists for voter registration drives might have sent an application in error, thinking that the cat was a person.
This is plausible, considering that the cat's name was Cody, which could easily be mistaken for a human name if you saw it on a list.
jordan holmes
If it were Mr. Fluffikins.
Different story.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd be a little...
But, I mean, if it's automated...
Here's the thing, like, a lot of people use their cat or their dog's name on their, like...
Orders that they get from pet supply stores and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that's 100%.
dan friesen
It's an easy mistake that could be made by a third party that's working on a voter registration drive.
Another possibility is that the guy is making it up.
I have no reason to suspect that he is, but I also have no idea what the reality is here.
It's just a viral story that people are covering because it's flashy.
He probably isn't making it up, but who knows?
jordan holmes
Well, so the cat died 12 years ago.
So here's...
First thought that I'm having right now is 12 years ago, 2008, that's when the internet started getting everybody was on it.
To the point where you were signing up for stuff over and over and over.
You were signing up for so many different things.
I would not be surprised in an instant if in a fit of paranoia he was like...
I'm not going to use my real name for this one.
I'll just use my cat's name.
Or whatever like that.
And then it's 12 years later.
dan friesen
It doesn't matter.
There's a hundred possibilities for how this could happen.
But whatever happened here doesn't really matter.
The cat would never have been able to register to vote.
If the guy wanted to commit voter fraud, he wouldn't have been able to successfully send in the voter registration form since the cat wouldn't have any human ID or records.
There's no way that this could have resulted in an illegal vote.
Also, if the globalist's evil plan is to send out ballots in the names of dead cats, why are they sending them to the owners of these pets who aren't in on the plan?
That seems like a really stupid way to go about things.
Almost like you'd be guaranteed to have people like this dude in Atlanta come out and talk about it.
If you were gonna do voter fraud, particularly on a large scale, this is the last way you would ever do it.
jordan holmes
The first way would be to register people through Wayfair.
Everyone knows Wayfair is your one-stop conspiracy shop.
dan friesen
It's gotta be.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be.
dan friesen
Now, this next call was weird.
So, this caller, she's confronting Alex about him saying something about Michael Jackson.
So, what happened was that Alex was talking...
jordan holmes
This is 2020, correct?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex was talking about everybody wearing masks.
The way his brain just jumps from topic to topic, he remembered that Michael Jackson and kids wore masks and stuff.
And so he's like, yeah.
jordan holmes
So he just tossed that into the soup.
dan friesen
Non-sequitur kind of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just tossed it into the soup.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
No big deal.
dan friesen
And so this caller did not appreciate that.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'm only keeping this in because it's kind of funny that this caller is really interested in sticking up for Michael Jackson.
And then second, because it reveals how Alex responds when he's confronted about something.
He doesn't give a shit.
unidentified
To Michael Jackson, he wasn't a part of the conversation.
alex jones
Sure, sure.
I mean, I have a tendency to just, you know, we're running out of time on the show to do that.
unidentified
Let's say this real quickly.
He only hung one child over the balcony that was his.
He didn't give those children wine.
And something else you said, he died of propofol.
Prince died of fentanyl.
alex jones
Whatever, man.
They're on a bunch of hardcore opiates is what I'm saying.
unidentified
We're Christian.
I'm Christian, too.
Born again.
Spirit filled, dude.
We got to be.
We got to be.
alex jones
Well, I mean, listen, I'm not a pharmacist, but I remember he was on a whole bunch of those drugs.
I remember reading he died of the same thing as Prince, and I thought it was fentanyl.
But it might have been some medical grade of it.
It's kind of like they got Valium, and they got one type of Xanax, and they got a time-release Xanax, so not my intent to deceive.
Quite frankly, I think Michael Jackson was weird, man.
So I appreciate your call.
I mean, I just...
I mean, I'll tell you, I think Michael Jackson was creepy.
Now, do I go off on Michael Jackson all day long?
No.
dan friesen
No, mostly Brian Stelter.
jordan holmes
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
It's so weird to me, but I think it's interesting the way that this caller is bringing up concrete things that Alex was wrong about, and he's just like, I don't care.
I'm not a pharmacist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
And she's making a good point, which is like...
We have to be accurate.
You gotta be accurate.
And you see the disdain Alex has for someone bringing up...
Like, concrete misrepresentations and inaccuracies that he has.
He doesn't care, and he kind of resents the idea that someone would...
jordan holmes
Whatever!
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, you're going to talk about things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Whatever!
dan friesen
It was like, yeah, that's exactly how I would expect him to respond.
jordan holmes
I said what I wanted to say.
Whether it was true or not, you're just splitting hairs.
dan friesen
And it's one of the big reasons why I think it would be so pointless to ever try to talk to him and be like, here's what you're wrong about.
jordan holmes
Oh, use your facts.
dan friesen
Use your facts.
jordan holmes
I'm going to say the same shit tomorrow and I won't care.
dan friesen
So now here's where things get a little bit dangerous.
Alex is just straight up telling his audience not to get tested for COVID.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
alex jones
Because you know they're going to mess with folks that have a wreck because they're now saying, oh, you never really get well from it.
There'll be some new special DNA vaccine you've got to get before you can ever have a job again.
I mean, blame me, folks.
You don't want to be tested.
You don't want to be on record having this.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's a dangerous mentality.
jordan holmes
You don't want to be tested.
dan friesen
You don't want to be tested.
Because then they'll give you a false positive and then use that to...
jordan holmes
I swear to God.
dan friesen
It's dangerous, man.
jordan holmes
You know, like, this is the only thing that makes me think the virus has its own consciousness and a big bank account and can afford to hire...
Low-level radio hosts.
dan friesen
It's exactly what you would, like, push if you were wanting things to get worse.
jordan holmes
Totally.
No, 100%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's, um, hey, you know, if you feel sick, the last thing you should do is know whether you're sick or not.
unidentified
I just, I mean, wouldn't...
jordan holmes
Wouldn't you be like, hey, everybody should get tested, so then we can prove with all of our tests that they're lying?
dan friesen
No, because Alex thinks that the tests just give you false positives, or he thinks that the tests themselves give you...
COVID-19.
You know what?
It's one of those things.
We say that he thinks that.
Who knows if he thinks that?
That's what he's saying.
It's fucked up.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
I can't believe anybody would say that.
dan friesen
I just can't.
We're skipping over a lot of his calls because I'm just toning out.
Some of it's vaguely racist.
Some of it's just boring.
But Alex gets towards the end of the show now and he's getting really introspective and defensive about Some people have an idea in their mind that his calls are fake.
alex jones
And I've seen news articles out there, and I've seen, we've had guests ask, you know, hey, are those fake callers out here?
As if I have time and energy to fake stuff around here.
This is all completely real.
And that's what's frustrating about it is people are so used to fraud, they don't know something real.
When they're seeing it, this is people actually trying to tell the truth, actually trying to figure out what's going on.
So, call in sometime and experience it for yourself.
It's real.
You'll be on air.
Real things are happening.
This is a real world.
dan friesen
I used to think that there was a good chance that Alex's callers could be fake, and I still think there's a possibility that some of them are plants.
But the more I listen, the more I think that's less likely.
The reason is because there's so many of the same callers who call in over and over, and they appear to be in business for themselves.
There's a guy named Carlos who calls in pretty much every show when Alex is taking calls, and he just lectures Alex.
It's just like, I don't know what's going on, but this dude, Alex just lets him talk for like 10 minutes.
There's also a guy named Chase the Patriot who calls in pretty much every day, and he's at least partially doing it to promote his own YouTube channel.
So there are some real people, but I think some of them might have their own agendas mixed in with trying to become regular callers on Alex's show.
That said, the reason I pulled that clip is because Alex is saying that he's trying to tell the truth and trying to figure out what's going on.
I'm super offended by that because he doesn't even do the least he could do to figure out what's going on.
Day after day, I tune into his show and I hear him read a headline then tell a story about the article that that headline is from that in no way matches what the actual article says, which strongly implies that Alex hasn't even taken the time to read the articles he covers.
He's said as much many times in the past, when he'll have a stack of paper on his desk and he'll say, I've read some of these articles.
We recently found a clip of him talking about how he hasn't even read all of Carol Quigley's book Tragedy and Hope, which is supposed to be the foundation of his worldview and the blueprint of the globalist's plan.
Alex is not trying to figure out what's going on because he doesn't even do the easiest thing he could do, which is read the stories he's covering on air.
Because I know that's the case, it becomes clear that the other thing that he said...
That he's trying to tell the truth isn't true.
He's lying about trying to tell the truth.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
God, just an absolute liar.
jordan holmes
I do believe he doesn't have the time or energy to fake stuff, because that sounds like it would be effort, and that is not something he's very interested in.
dan friesen
Yeah, and when he tries to do these set pieces, they fall apart so fucking fast.
jordan holmes
Oh, disgustingly.
dan friesen
So, if he was intentionally trying to...
Fake something grand.
I don't think he could keep up a bit with a fake caller.
jordan holmes
No, the only thing that he fails at more than his regular job is when he tries to do a job.
dan friesen
Well, here's what I would say.
He can improvise something made up all day long.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But when there's another person involved, impossible.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
Whether it's Owen or David Knight, whenever they try and do bits, it's a disaster.
If he was trying to do that with a caller, it would just...
Fall apart.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not a team player.
dan friesen
No, but alone, he could make up things all day.
jordan holmes
Spin yarns all day.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Alex takes a bunch of calls, and then, whoops, I forgot to do the news.
alex jones
All right, look, I'm not trying to cliffhanger here, but I've got all this coronavirus news.
dan friesen
Oh, so much.
alex jones
That I need to hit, but I'm out of time.
I want to take your calls, because Joe Salente's got a lot to cover.
He's about to take over.
dan friesen
So we're now into, like, the fourth hour.
And he's lingering over into Gerald Salanti's time because he's got to break this big COVID news.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But he can't get to it now because he's got to take your phone calls.
jordan holmes
Well, he's got to take your calls.
dan friesen
Right.
I've been taking calls for two hours that have been largely treading water and fairly boring.
I forgot to do the big coronavirus news.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to our evening broadcast.
It is election night.
The results are in, and we will love to tell those to you, but first we've got to take some calls.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
You're not interested in that information until we have taken calls.
dan friesen
So Alex says some of his normal boilerplate nonsense about coronavirus.
There's no big news.
But, I mean...
If you're going to commit to taking calls, I appreciate that at least you're doing that.
Whoops, no time for calls.
alex jones
Look, Mike, Mike, and Simon, I want to really go to you guys.
I got to about 20 calls.
I'm out of time because Joe Salente's taking over.
I'm just going to say this.
This is the last day of the big sale.
Short-wide free shipping, double Patriot points.
dan friesen
Hey, look, I want to get to this big coronavirus news, but I can't because I've got to go to calls.
Look, all these callers, I really want to go to you, but I've got to plug.
That's the way the Maslow's hierarchy of Alex works.
Top priority, fucking selling things.
jordan holmes
It is a real nice game of three-card money that he plays.
You know, like, no matter...
Oh, no, no, no, you found the queen.
You found the queen?
Okay, we're gonna play one more time.
Alright, okay, you missed it this time.
Put another 20 down there.
You got it the first two times.
You're doing great.
Alright, okay, so we missed it the second time.
Alright, but I'm gonna have to get out of here.
unidentified
Bye!
dan friesen
So sad, this display.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I don't even know.
I mean, I get it.
You're just trying to sell shit.
jordan holmes
It's just a scam.
dan friesen
I find this so amazing.
Looking in on this, I know that there's not as much meat as I would like.
And I probably skipped over some things that would have just been beating a dead horse in terms of his racism.
Because there was fairly racist stuff throughout.
But this is amazing to me.
This two days is amazing.
For one, I can't express to you how shocked I am that Roger didn't show up.
Like, that to me is such a gigantic sign of the times.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Alex has been one of the only people who's been so out there being like, free Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Put his neck on the line.
dan friesen
To the point where Alex was getting pissed off that some of the money was being funneled to Roger's defense funds and stuff like that.
And it's like, on Monday, It has been days that Roger has had every opportunity to call in or, failing that, record something in advance to send to Alex.
jordan holmes
Easy.
dan friesen
It would have been easy.
Alex would have dropped everything to pre-record something.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And Roger is clearly not giving Alex the time of day.
jordan holmes
Doesn't need him anymore.
dan friesen
That's fucking nuts.
jordan holmes
I will admit, the Stone situation has, like...
I'm past whether or not the justice system works.
We're way past that.
I find this now hilarious in a schadenfreude way that I can't fully express.
The way he's shitting all over Alex by not showing up on his show, that's schadenfreude of the highest order.
Love it.
dan friesen
The thing that I have to keep holding on to, and I know that maybe I'll look silly for this in hindsight, is I'm sure he'll be there on Tuesday.
I haven't been able to listen to this because of when we record our episodes.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
But I'm sure he would have had to be there on Tuesday.
I can see a very easy explanation for this that Alex would never want to talk about, and that is that Roger gave the exclusive to Hannity, which still means that Alex is lower on the totem pole than places that are really actually media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, in that case, you're like, you know what, you take that on the chin if you're Alex.
You're not Hannity.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex takes anything on the chin well.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
He's not the kind of guy who's like, you know, you take your lumps.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's got to be brutal for him.
The guy who he changed his entire show for, more or less, he gets the vindication and he celebrates it with an exclusive on Hannity instead of with his bro?
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
I can taste how good that schadenfreude is.
dan friesen
Privately, that's gotta be brutal.
But I bet he'll be on the show on Tuesday.
But now, I mean, like, the thing becomes, on our next episode, are we gonna tune back in and be like, Roger's not on on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
I can't wait!
I can't wait for him not to be there.
I want Roger to completely cut ties.
dan friesen
This is a will-they-won't-they that I'm actually invested in.
Not since Dr. House and Lisa Cuddy have I been as invested in a will-they-won't-they.
jordan holmes
I want that schadenfreude to have a Michelin star.
dan friesen
The second thing about these two days that I think is actually really shocking is the Wayfair thing.
Alex was in the clear entirely on the 11th when he got in studio and did his Hey, this is a trap, but maybe it's something.
You leave the door open enough that in case, if you have to, you can say, I didn't say it wasn't something.
jordan holmes
Worst case scenario.
dan friesen
Exactly, but you still have the, like, hey, if the media wants to try and say that I was on this bullshit, I said the day of that it was a honey trap.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
But then, on Sunday, for no reason, unforced error, just coming out of being like, yeah, this is absolutely what this is.
It's real.
So bizarre.
So bizarre.
jordan holmes
It's so nice.
It's kind of refreshing.
I'm used to seeing the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And to watch Alex really step in shit here.
dan friesen
But who knows how it's going to turn out.
It might end up not being all that bad for him, but tactically it seems like a really stupid decision.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's a terrible idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he, of all people, should know that because he explained why it's a stupid decision on Friday.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Or Saturday, as it were.
jordan holmes
Very, very specific.
Even succinctly.
dan friesen
Yeah, more or less.
So, anyway, we'll see what happens.
Hopefully Roger's on on Tuesday, or hopefully not.
jordan holmes
I hope he never comes back.
dan friesen
We'll find out.
But until then, we'll be back, but we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, and you have your website for your book.
unidentified
Oh yeah, the book is thequietpartloud.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bedjordan.
dan friesen
Also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
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dan friesen
Or a bear fund.
jordan holmes
Or a bear fund.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They are also endangered.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
And donate to them, and we'd be very appreciative of that as well.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back, but until then.
I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
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I am Roger Stone's booking agent.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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