I know I'm just a witness, but I'm telling these people, you've got to be a damn coward, okay, to exploit the debts of these kids, to push draconian Nazi damn gun control, then attack free speech. You know, we know what this is about.

Some of the parents, and I can imagine their pain, got sucked into gun control and advocacy, and now some of them have done quite well in that advocacy, and so became political operatives in that very early on, and they're now in a political arena. That's what's going to happen.

And today, listening to Mr. Crouch, Therapist who has worked with Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, I did have a couple moments where I was, I really got a little bit emotional about, you know, what he had to say about their struggle, you know, with everything, you know, and he described this sort of two buckets. One, you lose your son in a mass shooting. And the second bucket, people call you a liar and say that not only... Was he not killed in that way that he never existed? And at one point, you know, Mr. Crouch, the therapist, was being, you know, prompted to say, well, what does that actually mean, you know, when as a parent you're kind of dealing with those claims?

You know, the thing that got me about that is the therapist As much and as powerful as that story was, when he was asked, what's the most important thing to the parents? What's the most important thing to them? He didn't say that he was remembered as a hero or he was remembered as somebody who saved anybody. He choked up and he said, the most important thing to me, or the most important thing to the parents, is just to let people know, to let the world know that he lived.