And there's, you know, and it was also a kind of like, It lays out a really revolutionary, I think, a really revolutionary way to live in the world, which is meeting violence with nonviolence. That's crazy. That's crazy, but it does disrupt the whole cycle.

I disagree. It's interesting. I think what it speaks to is the inherent neutrality of religion itself. Because these people are both expressing really religious ideas. And one of them is expressing them in a way that's like, yeah, alright. And the other one is saying... Fairly similar kinds of things. Like, oh no. That are 180 degrees. It's about what's packaged on it that really is what becomes a problem.

Like this flesh body is inconsequential and doesn't matter. Right. It seems like that is a through line through everything. Like that's the prison. Yeah. The prison is the flesh.