Fossil fuels aren't perfect. We need to phase them out, but they're a bridge. It'll take decades to do it. What they're doing now, I've looked at the numbers. This is Elon Musk. We'll cause billions to starve to death, and that'll cause giant wars.

That family that is, they told us 30 years ago. It's not coming from dead whales and dead dinosaurs.

So what's crazy is we come right along at this time, pump up all of this juice and all this carbon that was produced on the surface with plants and animals that ran down in cracks into the earth. We're now pumping out all that carbon saved from millions of years ago and actually terraforming the planet, putting more carbon dioxide in that we actually need right at this time.