And this is the human evolution of the humans. There is no more natural evolution of anything.

And so thinking of evolution as this dynamic process that is not only searching design space, but learning to enhance its capacity to search design space in order to get into the future is the way to think of it. It's much more powerful than the clumsy version that we describe, even if we don't yet understand where that power is lodged.

We often say that evolution cannot look forward. It can only see the past. At a technical level, this is true.

But the point is, evolution can't see the future, but it can build creatures that see the future on its behalf.

I think it's clear you look at human evolution and it's not the way the church says it is. It's not the way the scientists... The real scientists now admit there's massive jumps and there's DNA cut in there. And there's definitely been massive... I mean, we were definitely designed. All of this was obviously designed.

We are not descended from wrecking apes.

So many scientists that were atheists get into the genetic engineering realm and go, my God, something made this.