Today, Dan and Jordan celebrate surviving the July 4th Civil War by breaking down a little episode of Project Camelot where our intrepid host interviews a half-Pleiadian. Tune in to hear collaborative writing masquerade as an interview, and stay to hear everything go horribly off the rails.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Dan, if you were somebody who had, let's say, lost faith that his country would ever possibly work as a functioning democracy again. | ||
| And would instead descend into a corrupt kleptocracy until the end of time. | ||
| And you were trying to celebrate the holiday that most exemplifies the worthlessness of that country. | ||
| I don't know how you're going to weave this into a question. | ||
| What podcast would you recommend? | ||
| If you want to listen to something while Rome burns, check out Knowledge Fight. | ||
| It's this show you're listening to right now. | ||
| Is it this show you're listening to right now? | ||
| Let me tell you a little bit about it. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's the dynamic that we have and we bring to you. | ||
| Happy 4th of July, 5th, when this comes out. | ||
| We're recording this on the 4th. | ||
| Wanted to put out an episode for... | ||
| The fourth, because generally we have an episode on Wednesdays, but I figured most people probably aren't in the office where most people listen to podcasts, and they wouldn't be listening anyway because they'd be out in that second civil war that's supposed to be happening. | ||
| I've heard about that. | ||
| I heard about that. | ||
| When did we start that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess people were clowning on Alex on Twitter and doing some Second Civil War letters and stuff. | ||
| Oh, I like that. | ||
| I think it's fine, but it's also just buzz marketing for Alex. | ||
| People don't realize how much that plays into his hands. | ||
| I really want to be clear about something, because I got a couple questions from people who were like, Hey, you guys think about this? | ||
| I don't want to spend much time on this second Civil War nonsense and people making fun of him for two reasons. | ||
| One, we've already seen him do this over and over again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That last time they had that big march, not the Women's March, the other one, I can't remember what it was. | ||
| I think it was the March for Our Lives. | ||
| Right. | ||
| After the Parkland shooting. | ||
| Alex's rhetoric was that that was when Democrats were going to launch their Civil War. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They were going to launch the move to take out Trump. | ||
| They're going to kill him, perhaps. | ||
| Like, all of this stuff, he's recycling stuff over and over again. | ||
| So people are getting excited about it. | ||
| It's like, you're getting into the reruns already. | ||
| It's the holiday. | ||
| You've got to get yourself into the holiday spirit. | ||
| I am a little bit. | ||
| I'll be honest. | ||
| I like the idea of celebrating some freedoms. | ||
| And maybe personal freedoms. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But also, the other thing is that, like, I get why it's really fun to clown on Alex, and we do it a lot. | ||
| In various ways. | ||
| And I understand that I'm probably making too fine a line that most people don't really appreciate or understand. | ||
| But when it becomes the number one trending hashtag, the second Civil War hashtag... | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| People were going nuts on it. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| And people were all rooted back to making fun of Alex. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it was still... | ||
| You're talking about Alex. | ||
| What people don't recognize, I think, a lot of the time is that he doesn't give a shit if people are making fun of him. | ||
| It doesn't matter, because most of the people making fun of him aren't people who would ever consider him to begin with. | ||
| He doesn't care about that. | ||
| That segment of the population is lost to him already, so they might as well be making fun of him. | ||
| That gets his fucking name out there and gives a better chance for the 20% to see. | ||
| Be like, hey, why is everyone making fun of him? | ||
| Let me check out what he says. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| And not just that, but if you're one of those people on Twitter who's like... | ||
| Whatever it is that says. | ||
| The libs seem really bent out of shape about this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It must be fun. | ||
| Must be good. | ||
| And then the flip side of it, too, is that, like, who cares? | ||
| Like, the idea that somehow he's going to be humiliated when this doesn't happen, because it's fucking not going to happen. | ||
| It never was. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| Because he has built-in narratives in place. | ||
| It doesn't fucking matter. | ||
| When it doesn't happen, he can be like, yeah, because I talked about the plans and they had to change their plans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's built in place. | ||
| Like, I stopped the second Civil War by publicizing it. | ||
| He can play that card if he wants to. | ||
| Or, I mean, the day is not over. | ||
| There could be some terrible firework mishap or something like that. | ||
| Oh yeah, he can really toss that one. | ||
| He claims that's a false flag or some shit. | ||
| He has a myriad of options in order to convince that 20% that he's not as stupid as the 80% say. | ||
| So engaging in this stuff is really only giving him free marketing. | ||
| So anyway, happy 4th. | ||
| It was a brilliant move for him to stop the Second Civil War by distracting those who would start it. | ||
| They were too busy clowning on him. | ||
| Too busy memeing. | ||
| Too busy. | ||
| How are you going to organize the Second Civil War if you're writing Second Civil War letters to Alex? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Never going to happen. | ||
| So, anyway, I don't hate it, and I understand the impulse, and I appreciate it. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I live in this weird space where it's like... | ||
| I know that the best thing to do would be to ignore him, except in very specific contexts. | ||
| There are very specific ways that are good to take care of him and deal with him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I also get people liking to have fun. | ||
| So I'm not mad at that either. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Everyone, live your lives. | ||
| That is a 180! | ||
| You just talked yourself out of your own position. | ||
| No, it's the same position. | ||
| Go ahead and do it, but just recognize that you're not scoring a point on him. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
| You're sort of playing into his hands a little bit because this is the only PR strategy he can use because no one will take him on as an advertising thing. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| To the point where now, apparently, last article I read, he's got the same people who are defending the Daily Stormer as his neo-Nazi lawyers. | ||
| He just got neo-Nazi lawyers? | ||
| Well, lawyers who are also defending neo-Nazis. | ||
| But that also, to me, is another thing. | ||
| People are clowning on that. | ||
| It's like, that doesn't matter. | ||
| That doesn't mean the lawyers are neo-Nazis. | ||
| No, and the ACLU represents neo-Nazis in the past. | ||
| There's free speech issues that some neo-Nazis are protected by. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| I get the urge to be like, haha, this is a link to him and neo-Nazism. | ||
| I got a lot of feelings. | ||
| I'm telling you, one thing that we never expected when we wrote all those laws was the necessity of adding a dot, dot, dot, except for Nazis. | ||
| Like, so many, like, First Amendment, we guarantee the right to free speech, dot, dot, dot, except for Nazis. | ||
| You know, we just gotta rewrite all that stuff. | ||
| We add it in at the end. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Because there's no way you can consider Nazis a protected class. | ||
| You wouldn't think so. | ||
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But again, we have a white supremacist government. | |
| That's what amendments are for, in theory. | ||
| But we'll never get there with this government. | ||
| But anyway, like I said, it's time to celebrate our freedom. | ||
| And so I decided I don't want to talk about Alex Jones today. | ||
| Here's what we're talking about. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
| I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and very happy to be here today. | ||
| We're going to be talking to Eddie Page, and this is my second interview with him. | ||
| It should be a lot of fun. | ||
| He's also been putting out some videos of his own, sort of in his own words, his life story, and he does that on his YouTube channel. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Do you know who Eddie Page is? | ||
| I'm going to go with the bastard son of Jimmy Page and Eddie Vedder. | ||
| No, Eddie Money. | ||
| Eddie Money, okay. | ||
| Incorrect. | ||
| Although, let's see if this helps. | ||
| His real name is Tommy Coleman Jr. | ||
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Does that help? | |
| No, no, absolutely not. | ||
| Of course it doesn't. | ||
| What the hell is Tommy Coleman Jr.? | ||
| He's a guy who goes by Eddie Page now. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| A lot of his backstory is dealt with in another interview that he did with Carrie. | ||
| He did two within a week or so. | ||
| I will say, just as a beginning syllabus, and then we'll get into more as we go along, he's a guy who claims to be a Pleiadian. | ||
| He's a hybrid alien being who is doing an interview with Carrie. | ||
| And I gotta say, most of his backstory, not super important. | ||
| Can we do it in flashback format? | ||
| We can just do small chunks of it. | ||
| We don't have to deal with the entire backstory. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And I think I can explain it to you as we go along in as much detail as you need. | ||
| Because that's not what's important. | ||
| This is one of the weirdest Project Camelot interviews I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It goes so far off the rails. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| To an unbelievable extent. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I've seen these go off the rails. | ||
| Like the one with Courtney Brown, where he was talking about his remote viewing. | ||
| At the end, Kerry was clearly like, I'm fucking over this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You disrespected Mark Richards. | ||
| Even though the argument could be made that it's Project Camelot, and so rails are no non-existent. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Where we're going, we don't need rails. | ||
| We don't need rails. | ||
| Also, the one with the guy who's like, under that museum, there's a city of demons. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That went off the rails when he disrespected Mark Richards as well. | ||
| Weird, weird. | ||
| Her loyalty to that murderer is really weird. | ||
| It's pretty spectacular. | ||
| He must be an amazing liar. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But this goes even further off the rails, and weirdly, it has nothing to do with disrespecting Mark Richards. | ||
| It just has to do with Eddie Page being a chief weirdo. | ||
| Is his Pleiadian dad named Tommy Coleman? | ||
| And then he was named Junior because of that, or was his Pleiadian dad, once again, Jimmy Page and Eddie Vedder? | ||
| His human dad is Tommy Coleman. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then, I don't know the page part of it. | ||
| I don't know the etymology of his name, but I do know that his dad's name is something, some sort of like angelic being type name. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's not a human name, let's say. | ||
| An angelic being, like Michael? | ||
| Yeah, but it's weirder. | ||
| It's some sort of like... | ||
| Orontine or something like that. | ||
| It's not that, but it's something along those lines. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's like what a child would come up with as an alien. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Now I understand it. | ||
| So you may not know this. | ||
| You don't know this. | ||
| How could you possibly know this? | ||
| It would be interesting if I did. | ||
| Eddie did not know his dad, his alien dad. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Until he was much older in life. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| But he did meet him when he was young. | ||
| This is just a little bit about his dad. | ||
| As a young child, I remember meeting my father. | ||
| And I think a lot of people can relate with what I'm going to share here. | ||
| I had never met this man until I was four years old, but looking in his eyes and knowing who he was, I mean, it was just something I felt, a magnetism that I knew this being is very special. | ||
| That's actually kind of a sweet story. | ||
| It is, but I like how he couches this at the beginning. | ||
| I think a lot of people would be able to identify with this. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I didn't meet my dad until I was four. | ||
| I knew he was a special being when I looked into his eyes. | ||
| That limits the population a little. | ||
| True. | ||
| So in terms of identifying it, but let's see. | ||
| Special being can mean both. | ||
| It could just be a hyperbolic term for somebody that you love. | ||
| I think even not meeting your dad until you're four takes a... | ||
| Large chunk of the population away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I know that there's a lot of single parents out there and shit like that. | ||
| I understand there's a chance that maybe you don't know your dad at the beginning of your life, but that's not everybody. | ||
| Or even at the end of your life. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I would find out at about the age of 30, I was adopted, and at age 31, this man that I had met in 1957 was my father. | ||
| He was our father. | ||
| I just like to say, I don't want to sound greedy, but I was very proud to find out. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And this man was not prepared. | ||
| Okay, now you're saying you found out when you're 30. You mean you went through 30 years without knowing that you were Pleiadian? | ||
| Well, there it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| That's the sweet spot. | ||
| So, this introduces the first problem. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Well, you know, we have painted Carrie Cassidy as perhaps the worst interviewer of all time. | ||
| The most credulous, at the very least. | ||
| She earned some of her stripes. | ||
| At this point, like in this interview, there's a couple of things that she holds his feet to the fire about that I think are pretty impressive. | ||
| And I thought it was her being a good interviewer, but I realized there was something actually far more nefarious. | ||
| And I'll explain as we get to it. | ||
| There's a remarkable thing happening here that there's a dominant struggle that it's going to be fascinating the way this plays out. | ||
| Carrie Cassidy is a fucking alpha, and she can tell that this dude is a chump. | ||
| Wait, so we find out here that Carrie Cassidy, our poor, sweet, anti-Semitic Carrie Cassidy, is a bully? | ||
| I think what we end up finding out, and I'm probably showing way too many cards way too early, she might be screwing with fucking... | ||
| Guy in prison. | ||
| She's now screwing with Mark Richards. | ||
| She might be puppet mastering Mark Richards. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| This is the usual suspect's turn that I have always wanted Carrie Cassidy to take. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I'm not standing by that, but we'll see what you think as we go along. | ||
| All of a sudden, her voice just gets lower by an octave, and she's just like... | ||
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I've known how to do this shit all along, you assholes. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Oh, you're from space. | ||
| You think I'm stupid? | ||
| Also, I think that's the backstory of Star-Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy. | ||
| He met his dad at four, didn't know until he was 30, and then he thought that he was an alien. | ||
| Pretty sure that was the one. | ||
| It would make sense. | ||
| So he didn't know that he was an alien when he was a wee baby, but he didn't know that he was different, and here's how he would describe it. | ||
| You know, as a child, you remember these things, but as you get older, it's kind of like, Oh, well, this is the norm. | ||
| It's like putting your shoes on in the morning. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| And I knew there was something very unique going on here because as a child growing up, I was asked quite often, where did you go? | ||
| Who did you see? | ||
| And what did they say to you? | ||
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Well, at first I didn't say I saw anybody. | |
| So where do you get the speculation? | ||
| What did they say to me? | ||
| I would say at this point, all fairly standard questions you might ask a kid that was missing for a little while. | ||
| Like a kid that wandered off down the street and was like, where were you? | ||
| Were you with somebody? | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Or perhaps he was daydreaming? | ||
| Could be. | ||
| And then they were like, oh, what did you see? | ||
| Oh, that's an interesting possibility. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Any of those things seem like decent parent behavior. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I don't know. | ||
| Let's see if there's more to this. | ||
| But they knew, the people that watched over me, my host family. | ||
| The men and the doctors that came to visit me, the clergy that came to visit me, it was like, we got to know, we got to know. | ||
| Well, they were searching for answers, and I didn't have all the answers. | ||
| Even today, I don't want to say I've got all the answers, but I'm a lot wiser and a lot smarter than I was when I was two years of age, especially when I went into the agency. | ||
| Are you, though? | ||
| Him showing me things that I did as a child and comparing them to my other 32 siblings. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| There's 33 of us, and I was the third born. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| Wait, what? | ||
| Whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| He's the third of 33? | ||
| Oh, he's definitely special. | ||
| Here's where I guess we've got to explain some of his backstory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is the third of 33 Pleiadian children that were loaned to Earth or whatever. | ||
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Loaned? | |
| I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And the government's fully aware of it. | ||
| The Vatican knows that they get in play in a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, of course, the Vatican's going to get in. | ||
| So he's one of these Pleiadian children that was born onto Earth, and the Coleman family is taking care of him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so now you hear there, he says, when I came into the agency. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| He's talking about that CIA. | ||
| They're all talking about the goddamn CIA. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
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All right. | |
| We're back in the CIA. | ||
| So here's his story, broad strokes. | ||
| Worked for the CIA. | ||
| When he was 18, he went off to the military, and he went to Vietnam. | ||
| And he was quite a fighter pilot in helicopters in Vietnam. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But he got shot down. | ||
| His helicopter got shot down, and then he lost 11 days. | ||
| For 11 days, he was on an alien spacecraft. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they took him... | ||
| I thought he lost those days. | ||
| Does he not remember them? | ||
| All right, all right, all right. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| My questions will be answered in time. | ||
| He pops back up on a field. | ||
| Apparently in a different uniform than he was wearing to begin with. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Which is important because, as he describes it, he was, quote, sent to Vietnam in a special issue black non-infrared uniform with a special elite secret service group. | ||
| They carried high-tech equipment, such as a special issue Colt.45 pistol machine gun. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he was sent on a secret private mission to assassinate the Vietnamese premier. | ||
| I don't think that Vietnam... | ||
| How did he go? | ||
| I don't think they have a premier. | ||
| I think they have a prime minister. | ||
| Even back then. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think they had a premiere. | ||
| He did not succeed. | ||
| But the only reason I bring that up specifically is because he had to explain why when he was found he didn't have his black non-infrared uniform, I suppose. | ||
| I'm guessing that's why it's a piece of the narrative that he's in a different uniform when they find him. | ||
| But it wasn't 11 days later. | ||
| It was like minutes later. | ||
| He hadn't crashed a helicopter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or something along those lines. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| The details are murky. | ||
| But he was in Vietnam. | ||
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Well... | |
| I was... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| These aren't things that I can confirm or deny, so I'm choosing to believe it. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| As much as I think Stolen Valor is super ugly, I also think the idea of me saying, no, you weren't, in the shit, or something like that, when I have no idea... | ||
| Is wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So until someone can show me that he wasn't, I'll go ahead and take his word for it tentatively, but I will not allow that he was on a spaceship for 11 days. | ||
| Have you ever seen the movie Contact? | ||
| I have. | ||
| She was only gone for like a minute, but then where did all the tape come from? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| So while he's on the UFO, they heal him, and they put him in this yellow liquid that he can breathe in, which is super weird, but he thinks it's totally cool. | ||
| That's really kind of them. | ||
| That's nice, though. | ||
| So they heal him up, everything gets better, he gets back, and then at 30, which is years later, if you're keeping track, at 30, he ends up getting recruited by the CIA in his terms. | ||
| In reality, he got some regression therapy. | ||
| There was a guy named, I believe, what's his goddamn name? | ||
| Giles Hamilton. | ||
| So you got a regression by a guy named Giles Hamilton. | ||
| A bunch of them. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| From what I can tell, it has nothing to do with the CIA. | ||
| I think he just went to see a regression therapist in around 1984, 1985. | ||
| Oh, that's a bad time to go see those guys. | ||
| That was right around when the satanic panic got going. | ||
| That was a bad time to go see the... | ||
| That's about when my uncle was doing multiple personality work. | ||
| When a lot of psychologists were doing some really irresponsible regression therapy, repressed memory therapy, where a lot of people ended up with completely bogus memories. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That ended up causing a whole lot of trouble. | ||
| It's like going to see a psychic. | ||
| If you go see a regression therapist, there's a 0% chance they're like, nope, you're good. | ||
| No repressed memories. | ||
| You're going there to find some bullshit. | ||
| You're kind of hoping. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I get it. | ||
| I think when you're someone, you want to be special. | ||
| You want to be different. | ||
| And I certainly think if you come up with some sort of thing where I was... | ||
| I'm magically 11 days on a spaceship because I'm so important and then this regression isn't really just going to see a therapist. | ||
| This is part of the CIA shit. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And I am one of 33 Pleiadian babies. | ||
| Clergy. | ||
| The Vatican knew about me. | ||
| And so, like, there's a whole lot of other stuff that's very dubious along the way. | ||
| Like, he was in a car accident, and, like, he broke all kinds of bones, but he was magically healed the next day. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Doctors were flabbergasted. | ||
| I was hoping that he broke bones that no other human being had. | ||
| No, but there is, I think he is going to say this part, and I think that this is worth noting. | ||
| He brings up that he has, like, blood. | ||
| That the doctors say can't be determined is human. | ||
| He has inhuman blood. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Just the blood, though? | ||
| But this comes from a memory that he has under the regression therapy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So he's getting regressed by this Giles Hamilton individual, who I can find no record of. | ||
| Except for in relation to him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That sounds right. | ||
| Which probably means he's CIA. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| So he has, from his memory of this, he says, there were 20 people staring at me through the glass enclosure. | ||
| This is after he has gone through that stuff in Vietnam. | ||
| Of course, of course, of course. | ||
| They're studying him now because he had this magical experience. | ||
| He was fighting the beetle beings, if I remember correctly. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, quote, there were about 20 people staring at me through a glass enclosure as if they were studying me. | ||
| I can overhear what they're saying. | ||
| Beside me are three people. | ||
| The head of the CIA, Robert Brooks, Chief Assistant George Bush, Vice President Gerald Ford. | ||
| They were all shown a picture of a flying saucer. | ||
| I recognize that photo. | ||
| I've seen it before. | ||
| A short doctor says the DNA cannot be labeled. | ||
| The blood type cannot be labeled, but does contain some human blood. | ||
| So this idea is something that comes from his regression. | ||
| So all of this is just like, all right, you seem like maybe a suggestible guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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So, he had the head of the CIA in there. | |
| Yes, and George Bush. | ||
| And George Bush. | ||
| H.W., and then also Gerald Ford. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, one future president, one current president, and... | ||
| This was his current vice president. | ||
| Current vice president. | ||
| This was Ford's VP. | ||
| So, two future presidents. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because they showed him a picture of a flying saucer. | ||
| Well, no, because he... | ||
| According to what he believes, he crashed this helicopter and then miraculously healed. | ||
| And so they're like, whoa, what happened here? | ||
| You're in a totally different uniform. | ||
| It took him 11 days. | ||
| That's not really a miracle. | ||
| It wasn't 11 days. | ||
| Our time, though. | ||
| It was 11 days earlier. | ||
| Okay, that's true. | ||
| We're back in miracle territory, then. | ||
| So that's most of his story. | ||
| So we got the broad strokes. | ||
| And then two future presidents, head of the CIA, they showed him a picture. | ||
| A short doctor, which you know means that he actually remembered it, because he remembered the height of the doctor. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They were all watching him, so he could be shown a single photo, and he will be like, oh yeah, I know that one. | ||
| Oh, it's blood saucer. | ||
| What else has he got? | ||
| But then they took his blood, like I said. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| That ain't human blood, baby. | ||
| You don't need two future presidents there for a blood test. | ||
| Certainly don't. | ||
| You could just mail it to him. | ||
| Could have just gone to the lab. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So that is more or less all you really need to know about his experience. | ||
| I'm sure he would tell you that there's a lot more details. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I respect that, but we have a lot to get to. | ||
| Do you respect that? | ||
| I respect that he thinks that, yes. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| But there's a lot more we have to get to that's way more important, and that is that Carrie is really hung up on this idea, like, wait. | ||
| You didn't know any of this until you were 30? | ||
| Yeah, why is she hung up on that? | ||
| That seems reasonable. | ||
| It'll make sense here in a second. | ||
| Okay, but just to ask you the question a little bit more clearly, what I mean by that is that I'm actually wondering, when did you realize, I mean, you had visitations, you had all these interrogations going on with, you know, priests and people from the agency, and they brought you in when you... | ||
| Like in the last video, we talked about how you predicted the Kennedy assassination and so on. | ||
| So you were used to being, well, I think more or less interrogated in a nice way. | ||
| But then you grew up, and you're telling me that you and your host family, did you know you were adopted during that time? | ||
| Because I thought you did know after a certain age. | ||
| And then also, did you go through school? | ||
| And did you know, you know, that you were Pleiadian, that you were not human, or did you not find out until the age of 30? | ||
| I did not have a clue about it. | ||
| Now, when I was going into school, I mean, I made good grades in school. | ||
| I liked school. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know how that's relevant, necessarily. | ||
| Who else makes good grades in school? | ||
| Probably aliens. | ||
| People without human blood. | ||
| So... | ||
| Although some of it is human. | ||
| So he doesn't know. | ||
| He didn't know until he was 30. Kerry has clearly established that. | ||
| You heard her question. | ||
| He answers it by saying, I was good at school, and now it goes into this. | ||
| I mean, I made good grades in school. | ||
| I like school. | ||
| But when I got in the 8th grade, I almost failed the 8th grade. | ||
| And the guidance counselor called me in the day before school, and after the summer, and she says, Tommy, what happened this year? | ||
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And I said, I don't know. | |
| What are you talking about, ma 'am? | ||
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She says, you're just barely passing the eighth grade. | |
| What happened this year? | ||
| Because I was making A's and B's. | ||
| And I told her, I said, well, actually, I'm bored. | ||
| And I explained it to her. | ||
| Well, three days later, my people, who I called mom and dad at the time, came in. | ||
| And she explained it to them. | ||
| And she gave me... | ||
| An exam. | ||
| I had an hour to do it. | ||
| It was in a book. | ||
| She said, answer the questions you know. | ||
| It's not a deal with how many you answer correctly. | ||
| Sounds alien. | ||
| Within about 40 minutes, I answered all the questions, like 300 in there. | ||
| And I went home. | ||
| Next day, we went back to the guidance counselor, and she was staring a hole for me. | ||
| And she says, so you was bored this year? | ||
| I said, yes, ma 'am. | ||
| She says, do you know how many questions you missed on this test? | ||
| And I said, no, ma 'am. | ||
| She says, you have not missed one. | ||
| You paced it. | ||
| Well, I bypassed the ninth grade. | ||
| I went from the eighth to the tenth grade. | ||
| And within about five months... | ||
| What is this story? | ||
| Such an alien. | ||
| ...to the 11th. | ||
| And then near the end of the 11th grade, they moved me into a special ed class. | ||
| I was the only one in there. | ||
| I was taking college courses. | ||
| So alien. | ||
| Look. | ||
| This is an old man telling a boring story. | ||
| A super boring story. | ||
| This is an old man telling a boring story. | ||
| This is what you... | ||
| About a human gifted program. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Any of us had that in school. | |
| Now, granted, because of the generational difference, maybe there wasn't one already established at the school the way that there was for our generation. | ||
| Maybe they had to make one for him, and that created real feelings of, like, superiority and differentness in him from a very young age, and those have been transmuted into some sort of I'm an alien kind of feelings. | ||
| Especially because the alienation you would obviously feel from your peer group by being put into this special group where you're advancing through, if any of this is true, advancing through. | ||
| And you leave your social group behind, you know? | ||
| So was he current, at this time, was he also fighting in Vietnam? | ||
| No, it had to have been a little bit later. | ||
| A little bit later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are we sure about that? | ||
| But he's saying he was graduating 12th grade when he should have been in 9th grade, so that would have been, like, what, 15, 16 years old he's graduating high school? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That means there's got to be, like, two or three years before he went to Vietnam. | ||
| Like, as he said, he went to Vietnam at 18. Oh, okay. | ||
| What was he, just bumming around? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He doesn't say. | ||
| Just figuring out some alien powers? | ||
| He doesn't say. | ||
| Sounds very alien. | ||
| But Carrie does ask, again, just to put a button on that fucking thing. | ||
| I just wanted to show, like, I don't feel like people get a really good sense of how boring a lot of these episodes are. | ||
| Like, we talk about a lot of the fun stuff with the, like, this is completely crazy. | ||
| There are also sometimes two-minute stories about the gifted program. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Where there's just old, lonely people who want to talk. | ||
| I also skipped a grade. | ||
| Did not realize that I was an alien. | ||
| Didn't know that. | ||
| But now I kind of think I might be. | ||
| I was in Triple E, the gifted program at our school, but I did not skip any grades. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
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Well... | |
| That's not alien, then. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| Easy to prove. | ||
| But I did always wonder if I had any special skills, which is the same thing Carrie is wondering about Eddie right now. | ||
| Oh, you've got to wonder about that. | ||
| Also, we will find out about... | ||
| You perked your ears up a little bit when he said he predicted the JFK assassination. | ||
| Yeah, that one was interesting. | ||
| We're going to learn about the details on that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think it's as interesting as... | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Now that I've heard that story about being an alien, except for it's just like... | ||
| And when I was in ninth grade, I did this, and then I went to tenth grade, but I skipped tenth grade, and I went to twelfth grade. | ||
| It's also very similar to Alex's, like, I was reading super advanced books when I was a baby kind of shit. | ||
| 300 questions in 40 minutes. | ||
| Not a chance. | ||
| Not a chance. | ||
| All of these people have that sort of, like, that sort of, it's the intellectual version of stolen valor. | ||
| Like, I was a genius baby, but you weren't. | ||
| I was a prodigy. | ||
| Let's just put it this way. | ||
| I knew growing up that I was much different than the kids. | ||
| The Colemans, the people in my host family, my adopted parents that were very protective of me. | ||
| I could see things. | ||
| I felt things. | ||
| And it's like when I had visions, the three visions of this man having his head blowed off. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I saw this vividly. | ||
| I just couldn't say, okay, that's going to happen in Dallas. | ||
| It's going to happen on November 23rd, 1963 at 11.37 a.m. in the morning. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| No, I couldn't pinpoint them things. | ||
| And I think to say that when I was brought here, when I came back, I think my skills... | ||
| We're having to be rechartered. | ||
| I mean, that's probably the process. | ||
| That's probably the process. | ||
| That's what he thinks happened when he was in Vietnam and got in the alien ship for 11 days. | ||
| But I would say, as a harsh materialist, perhaps, even though I do believe in the spiritual world a little bit, but who cares? | ||
| All right. | ||
| I would say... | ||
| The most likely explanation here is that as a child, he imagined someone getting their head shot a couple times. | ||
| Maybe he saw it in a movie as a young kid. | ||
| And then when JFK was assassinated, he was nine, ten years old, and he conflated the precise memory of seeing that on TV with the earlier feelings that he'd had. | ||
| And decided that he had predicted it all along. | ||
| Because the idea that he just had this vivid picture in his head of someone getting shot in the head and he didn't know it was the president, didn't know it was in Dallas, didn't know when it was, that's not a prediction. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's just a mental image. | ||
| Yeah, that is kind of what we call a dream as well. | ||
| That would also function as a dream. | ||
| People who hated JFK probably had that thought. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or the people who did it. | ||
| Probably thought about it ahead of time. | ||
| Ooh, I predicted it. | ||
| Visualize and then attack, Dan. | ||
| That's fundamental behavior. | ||
| This is not impressive psychic work. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, that's kind of bad. | ||
| That might as well have just him being, like, called it. | ||
| Like, you didn't predict it. | ||
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Off the glass. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Just called that one. | ||
| No, but I know when you put, you know, you need to get yourself some sort of credibility in this world. | ||
| And by this world, I mean this world. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| This is a pretty good one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because how are you going to prove this? | ||
| How's anyone going to disprove that he called it when he was eight or whatever, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fucking no. | ||
| Called it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I promise you. | ||
| It's also weird. | ||
| It is weird to hear somebody tell a very humble version of the I'm a Psychic version. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Like, usually on this, normally we hear the I got the date, I got the blah, I got that. | ||
| He just copped to it. | ||
| And this dude is just kind of like, yeah, I had a vague feeling. | ||
| I had, like, two out of five details. | ||
| There's a gun, there was a head, but the rest of it, no idea. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| Yeah, that is a humble brag, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| So, I promise you, this seems like it's kind of boring a little bit, because we have his vague backstory that I've had to fill him, and so far we have, he went to a gifted program at his school. | ||
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Yes. | |
| There's not a lot. | ||
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Alien. | |
| And he thought about someone getting shot in the head before JFK. | ||
| Alien. | ||
| None of this is necessarily all that good. | ||
| I promise you, this is going to go places. | ||
| That are unbelievable. | ||
| I was going to say, because really what this sounds like right now is like a guy who's just, instead of being like, I was pretty smart as a kid, has just turned it into a very low-key, like, also I'm an alien. | ||
| Like, it's not even bragging really, or like telling interesting stories, or like making up a massive battle that he is the only solution for. | ||
| He's just kind of like... | ||
| Yeah, I got a bunch of alien siblings. | ||
| I was in a gifted program. | ||
| Fought in Vietnam for a while. | ||
| But everybody did that. | ||
| I was drafted. | ||
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No big deal. | |
| He'll get to some of the self-importance later. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But first, they really need to work their way out of this molasses pit that they're walking through that is, Carrie clearly doesn't believe him. | ||
| Carrie really has a problem with this idea that he didn't know any of this shit before he was 30. Because there's... | ||
| Look, there's a big issue that Carrie is going to flesh out here in a second. | ||
| I think it's pretty important. | ||
| And that is that he went on this alien craft for 11 days when he was 19. Yes. | ||
| Then he found out about all this when he was 30. There's 10 years in between there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What the fuck happened in those ten years? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| And he does not want to answer that question. | ||
| And he just, he Bukowskied around for a while. | ||
| It really frustrates Carrie that he doesn't want to answer that question. | ||
| And that will carry us through the next few clips. | ||
| Her trying desperately to be like, I don't really believe you. | ||
| We gotta get through this somehow. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| So weird. | ||
| Okay, now, uh, you, you know, um... | ||
| I don't usually like to talk about how old I am, but I can say that I'm not that far different from you age. | ||
| So, real quick, earlier in the episode, he admitted, not admitted, he said he was 65. Yes. | ||
| So that means that Carrie is pretty close to 65. Anyway. | ||
| This is Carrie's age watch. | ||
| When I was a kid, I was very aware of other dimensions, communication with other beings. | ||
| Premonitions, things that I was aware of. | ||
| You know, my dream life, etc. | ||
| Actually, I was being abducted at that time. | ||
| I had those kind of memories as well. | ||
| Didn't know that one. | ||
| And my sort of ability and interest in sort of, you might say, the occult, the psychic realm, etc. | ||
| just expanded. | ||
| And so it was very, very active when I was in my teens and in my 20s. | ||
| And so on. | ||
| So what I'm wondering is, you went, I forget how old you were when you enlisted, and then you had that experience in which you, you know, we've described that in the prior video for those of you that aren't familiar with the story and you're tuning in now. | ||
| But you had 11 missing days, your whole body was put back together, you met your father, etc. | ||
| But when you came back to Earth, they wiped your mind, so you didn't even... | ||
| Remember that. | ||
| And it is strange, you know, in other words, I guess what I'm kind of getting at here is yes, you sound advanced, but you don't actually sound spiritually like you were very hip up until the age of 30. Is that because you grew up in a fairly conservative, restrictive area? | ||
| I grew up in California, which is, you know, very open to all kinds of things. | ||
| She just accused you of being from flyover country. | ||
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Alright, alright, alright. | |
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| She's a West Coast elitist. | ||
| I was raised a hippie, and so people absolutely encouraged my dumb behavior and stupid stories. | ||
| I hung out at Mount Shasta or whatever. | ||
| And you, you, you pathetic... | ||
| Corn eating. | ||
| Go fucking go back to your cornfields. | ||
| Go back to your field of dreams. | ||
| Your dreams are boring. | ||
| Fucking ghosts? | ||
| Get the hell out of here. | ||
| There's a touch of that. | ||
| So hold on. | ||
| There are other societies that are as well, like Great Britain, etc., where, you know... | ||
| Awareness of other dimensions, other beings, you know, of all kinds, UFOs. | ||
| I don't remember when Close Encounters of the Third Time Camp came out what year. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
| But, you know, that was UFOs. | ||
| I mean, we're just normal after that. | ||
| Well, in my view. | ||
| And as a family, we even saw UFOs. | ||
| So what I'm wondering is, where was that part of your life? | ||
| You know, did they actually, do you think they dumbed you down on purpose so that you... | ||
| You know, on certain areas. | ||
| I mean, can you explain that? | ||
| No, I don't think they dumbed me down. | ||
| I think they kept me focused and on a level plane. | ||
| I would say that's not a fair question. | ||
| That's not a fair question to ask anybody. | ||
| Did they dumb you down? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems like unfair. | ||
| No, but that's her olive branch right there. | ||
| Because she's giving him an out for why she doesn't believe this story. | ||
| She's like, well, I can look down on your dumbass. | ||
| Your story is boring. | ||
| But, if you give me this, now I've got a foothold and now we can start blaming your parents for all of this shit. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| The aliens dumbed him down on purpose. | ||
| Oh, the aliens dumbed him down on purpose. | ||
| When they wiped his memories at 19 or whatever, they also dumbed him down or something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, all this is just... | ||
| Or maybe the government did it. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Somebody could have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I would say, like, just human to human or human to half Pleiadian, that's never an okay question. | ||
| Because, like, if I... | ||
| If you ask me, did they dumb you down, and I say no, then I might be like, how dare you? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| And if I say yes, then I'm admitting they dumbed me down. | ||
| There's no way out of that. | ||
| You always look bad, no matter what your answer is. | ||
| I think it's fine. | ||
| I think you say yes. | ||
| Regardless of which direction you feel, you say yes, you put yourself on a lower... | ||
| Give yourself some humility. | ||
| That's a relatable quality. | ||
| People like you more. | ||
| Carrie's going to be like, you know what? | ||
| I don't like how dumb you are, but I like that you're an honest, dumb person. | ||
| Maybe from the dumbed-down person, that's a good angle, but from an interviewer's position, that's at very least rude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So at this point, Carrie realizes what I just brought up a minute ago, which is that missing decade. | ||
| And she's got to try and just clamp onto it like a bulldog, just trying to get in that toy. | ||
| She will not let this go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you'd just been in Vietnam. | ||
| You'd been shot down. | ||
| You almost died in a helicopter crash, and a whole battle went on. | ||
| You amazed everyone by shooting all these people, but you had no memory whatsoever at that point, right? | ||
| When you were recruited, in other words, into Langley, you still did not have your memories. | ||
| Am I correct? | ||
| Well, my memories had been, let's say I still had my memory, but it had been suppressed, and it had been purposely suppressed. | ||
| Who did it? | ||
| Well, I'll tell you who did it. | ||
| You've got to understand, the events that happened to me in Vietnam happened in 1973. | ||
| And I turned 19 years of age in Vietnam. | ||
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I was still a little skinny, bald-headed kid. | |
| Okay, what happened from the age of 19 to 30? | ||
| Great question. | ||
| I was 19 years of age. | ||
| In 1973, yeah, I turned 19 in Vietnam. | ||
| And in 1982, they recruited me from Iwakuni, Japan. | ||
| Okay, so you mean you spent, okay, just let me get this straight because I've read your book. | ||
| I'm almost completely done with it. | ||
| I have like a few pages. | ||
| I'll be at the end. | ||
| And, you know, it's a wonderful book. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| Objection, Your Honor. | ||
| It seems like we have sort of a gap here that's kind of strange. | ||
| We had a strange gap. | ||
| But all he'll answer is, I turned 19 in Vietnam, and then in 1982 I got recruited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He goes on to explain a little bit that he was still doing paperwork or something in the service, or something like that. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But his explanation for how the timeline works with all this stuff... | ||
| Really, it doesn't make any sense, and he doesn't really flesh it out, which leads Kerry to have to keep bringing it up. | ||
| Especially for a guy who has absolutely no problem telling a long year-by-year high school story. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| For him to skip however many, three years from Vietnam to Langley? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| What was he doing then? | ||
| What was he doing at Langley? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How long was he at Langley for? | ||
| Unclear. | ||
| Isn't Langley the FBI? | ||
| Didn't he say he was in CIA? | ||
| I think Langley is FBI, but maybe he was part of the FBI, but they just called it the agency. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But Carrie, like I said, will not let it go. | ||
| You mean you never got your memory back about the experience of those 11 days? | ||
| Even then, what did you just do? | ||
| Go back to work? | ||
| No, I stayed in Greenport. | ||
| I mean, I didn't get out of Greenport until 1982 when I was recruited. | ||
| What did you do in the Marine Corps after that? | ||
| During those seven years? | ||
| And don't tell me it's classified. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| No, it is classified. | ||
| He's just fucking around with her. | ||
| It's not classified. | ||
| That's where he goes on to say, I was flying helicopters around. | ||
| She was like, flying helicopters for who? | ||
| Give me something! | ||
| He's obfuscating like crazy, and there's no holds to grab onto if you're trying to climb up this mountain. | ||
| And so Carrie has to try and offer him a suggestion. | ||
| I just love the... | ||
| So what did you do? | ||
| Go back to work? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Ugh! | |
| Shouldn't you have been in space by now? | ||
| This story sucks! | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| If you're on Project Camelot, you should be in space by now. | ||
| We're 45 minutes into this episode. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta be in space by now. | ||
| So Carrie, at this point, like I said, she's gonna try and help him. | ||
| She's gonna try and be like, well, maybe this is the case. | ||
| During those tours in Japan, were you kind of like in a state of, I don't know, sounds like maybe suspended animation or very confused? | ||
| Confusion because you had not recovered, if I understand it correctly, what happened to you in Vietnam. | ||
| So you had to be in some kind of state, some kind of emotional state. | ||
| What would you say about that? | ||
| I wouldn't say I was in any type of emotional state because when I got to Newburgh, North Carolina to re-qualify, to keep my inner wings, There was people there at Newburgh that already knew about me and what had happened in Vietnam. | ||
| So, like, the reason that I kept that there at the end is because that's not answering her question at all. | ||
| Not even close! | ||
| You know, so, like, all of these attempts that she has to try and, like... | ||
| Let's make this make sense. | ||
| He just goes off into another vaguely related or unrelated story entirely. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And it's exceedingly frustrating for Carrie. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| She is getting pissed. | ||
| Every question she asks winds up having an answer of like, nah, not really. | ||
| I was working on getting my recertification papers. | ||
| Gotta get my wings. | ||
| Oh, is that the most important thing you have to tell me right now? | ||
| That super interesting story? | ||
| You needed to be recertified as a pilot. | ||
| I want to talk to you about goddamn aliens. | ||
| Well, I had quite a few continuing education hours at this time. | ||
| I went and got a chef's degree. | ||
| Went to bartending college. | ||
| The issue is, and this is what you have to understand, is that Carrie knows that her listeners are going to be confused by this problem. | ||
| And she knows that in order to get to the juicier stuff that he probably wants to say, they need to fix this. | ||
| Because otherwise it's going to be a glaring hole and it just doesn't make sense for his story. | ||
| So she has a vested interest in fixing this. | ||
| And at the same time... | ||
| It's super frustrating for her because she wants nothing more than to believe all of it. | ||
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She wants to believe it, but she can't believe it if it doesn't make sense, Dan. | |
| Come on! | ||
| Because there's a bigger issue even than that 10-year gap. | ||
| The 10-year gap is a problem, certainly. | ||
| You could make, like, if he was willing to give anything, you could get away from it pretty easily in terms of just, like, with the magical thinking that they always engage in on Project Camelot. | ||
| It would be fine. | ||
| But there's another bigger problem that Carrie brings up in this next clip that I think, I think this one is really, this is really tough. | ||
| Were you a pilot? | ||
| I think he was a hot dog pilot. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I don't know if I have this part in, but she's talking about his exploits in Vietnam. | ||
| She's like, you're a great pilot. | ||
| You're flying sideways and shit. | ||
| She's just throwing that in there? | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
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She says you're flying sideways and shit. | |
| That I love. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| So at this point, this is... | ||
| This, to me, is an essential problem, and I admire Carrie for bringing it up because... | ||
| I'm going to call her sweary Carrie from now on. | ||
| At this point, she should have no faith that he's going to have an answer for this. | ||
| So the fact that she's bringing up a hard question for him to answer is bold on her part, because this could just, like, destroy the interview. | ||
| But I think that she knows that there's another option. | ||
| You know, because it's a little strange to me that CIA would keep their hands off of you for that period of time. | ||
| There must have been, you know, they never do anything to serve someone else. | ||
| They do it to serve themselves. | ||
| And they have a, you know, sort of a modus operandi, a way of operating that they would have had you, they would have been on you, from my understanding, like white on rice, after that experience in Vietnam clearly demonstrated some kind of very different... | ||
| Approach to life. | ||
| Abilities. | ||
| You also had some great skills as a helicopter pilot. | ||
| Apparently you could fly sideways and do all kinds of crazy shit. | ||
| So, you know, they already had their eye on you. | ||
| And plus, in theory, they knew exactly who you were. | ||
| They knew that you were Palladian before you knew. | ||
| Correct? | ||
| I wouldn't say they knew I was Canadian. | ||
| They just knew I was unique. | ||
| I was different. | ||
| Well, now, when did the Vatican write that letter? | ||
| It was when you were a child. | ||
| Well, the Vatican knew. | ||
| But the Vatican, the CIA, the Vatican... | ||
| Sort of notified the CIA. | ||
| The CIA took complete control of the 33 children and placed you in families. | ||
| They knew damn well who you were. | ||
| Now, maybe not every level of the CIA, but certainly the top levels. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they knew you were Palladian. | ||
| Well, um... | ||
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Oh. | |
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Do you know what that sound is? | ||
| That's the sound of Eddie being like, oh. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You can't handle the truth? | ||
| I really like her. | ||
| She's going hard. | ||
| You know damn well they knew everything about it. | ||
| Tell me where the documents are! | ||
| No, because she's read his book, and based on the detail of the Vatican sending a letter to the CIA about him when he was a baby, or whatever, everybody knows. | ||
| The government can't keep track of kids. | ||
| Too compartmentalized. | ||
| It's always been the case. | ||
| So, at this point, because she has asserted this dominance, There. | ||
| At the end of that clip, you heard. | ||
| Now, Carrie takes it upon herself to solve the problems that he is unwilling to solve in his own narrative. | ||
| So she's going to rewrite his story for him. | ||
| She's going to do some punch-up. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The CIA and the NSA and the way they developed during those years is to become more and more into surveilling kids of all types because they were very aware after Eisenhower dealt with the Gray's of the Gray-Human Hybrid Program, of the abducting of humans, of the use of our genetic materials, etc., etc. | ||
| So you were part of a different group, and they must have known that you were part of a different group. | ||
| They had to treat you with kid gloves. | ||
| Even if they didn't know which ones you were, they had a real close eye on you. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| So here we have a downtime, and they send you, they let you kind of rest, it kind of appears, to where nothing unusual, at least based on what you're telling me, nothing too unusual went on in Japan. | ||
| And then suddenly they pop up in your life when you're 30 years old and they want to recruit you. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well... | ||
| Back to my childhood, I was talking about things that happened thousands of years ago. | ||
| This is collaborative writing now. | ||
| I was just writing down, this is how two people co-write a screenplay. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| This is exactly how this goes down. | ||
| So now, because he can't come up with like the... | ||
| Easiest explanation for this. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You can hear it in her voice. | ||
| She's not asking that. | ||
| She's saying, okay, so now what the narrative is... | ||
| Here's what's going on. | ||
| The narrative is they were keeping an eye on you, but they knew that you needed some kind of rest because they knew that you weren't part of the gray group or whatever that's dangerous, that you really need to keep under tight wraps. | ||
| You were someone who they could give 10 years of rest to doing paperwork in Japan or whatever, and then when they need to get back to you, they'll get back to you. | ||
| And you can hear them being like, ah, ah, ah, ah. | ||
| It put me on a back burner. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| So now he's been completely cucked. | ||
| Eddie's story is not his own anymore. | ||
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His story is now co-written by Carrie fucking Cassidy. | |
| Carrie sweary Cassidy. | ||
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Does she get some residuals? | |
| I was going to say, she needs some residuals on these copyrights. | ||
| I don't think she wants any from the book, and we'll get to why a little later. | ||
| So, this next clip is three minutes long. | ||
| It's longer than a lot of the clips that we usually have. | ||
| But it is important to keep as a whole. | ||
| We can interrupt it if we need to. | ||
| But it is what we saw in that last clip. | ||
| Carrie taking over and it becoming a writer's room as opposed to an interview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, to a rampant extent. | ||
| And at the end of this, you will just hear Eddie give up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Eddie just signals his complete submission. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| At the end of this. | ||
| Carrie has completely domed him. | ||
| This is like... | ||
| So he is very turned on right now. | ||
| This is alien fan fiction dom sub play. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| And, you know, I don't know what you'd say to this, but I actually wondered if they, the CIA knew who you really were, and this Abiel, or however you say your name, and the fact that you're supposed to be some kind of, I guess you're saying it's written in the Bible, that you're supposed to be some kind of avenging angel type. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
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What? | |
| He's also apparently an angel. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Of some sort. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Who's supposed to bring, I don't know. | ||
| Whichever revelation you want. | ||
| I don't fully understand what this piece of the narrative is, but apparently he's half Pleiadian and also an angel who's come to bring destruction of some sort. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Or be a herald of the destruction or something along those lines. | ||
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Or... | |
| Or just fly sideways and shit, you know? | ||
| Some crazy shit. | ||
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Just flying sideways and some crazy shit. | |
| You're not supposed to fly sideways in a helicopter. | ||
| That's a weird prophecy for the Bible to have, but I like it. | ||
| If you fly sideways in a helicopter, you're going to go left. | ||
| You're going to go straight left. | ||
| Flying sideways and shit. | ||
| So, yeah, he's an angel. | ||
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But don't let that get gumming up the works. | |
| Although it seems like a major revelation. | ||
| It's kind of minor in this story. | ||
| ...type person. | ||
| In other words, not such a nice, gentle guy. | ||
| So that's your role kind of in the future, supposedly. | ||
| Now, you haven't demonstrated that really in this life so far. | ||
| Assuming that your father, as you call him, knew exactly who you were and what you were capable of and so on and so forth. | ||
| Then, you know, you didn't exhibit any, like, what we have now, you know, superpowers, so to speak. | ||
| At least you're not telling us that you did. | ||
| I don't know if this conversation is being curtailed in certain ways, but, no, it's kind of disappointing that I have a Pleiadian here, and I completely agree, you're a Pleiadian, okay? | ||
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I have no problem with that. | |
| And I think it's possible that your mother was a host. | ||
| Real quick, that's not like an insult. | ||
| That part is just... | ||
| You were born inside your mother. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've already seen here now, beyond the angel piece, you've seen her insult him twice. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then also imply that you're not telling me everything that you know. | ||
| Which is the way that they get around all this... | ||
| Obvious bullshit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| She does this with Mark Richards all the time and is like, sometimes he can't answer a question, but he'll raise his eyebrows slightly. | ||
| He'll do the little knowing smile, which means... | ||
| Because it's above top secret and he's not allowed to tell me those sorts of things. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So she's implying that and then also being like, it's disappointing to talk to a Pleiadian and not have any real information. | ||
| And then also, you certainly don't seem like you've had superpowers during your life. | ||
| So she's already... | ||
| But she even preempts that by saying like, but no, I totally believe you're a Pleiadian. | ||
| Don't you worry about it. | ||
| But you know why she's doing that? | ||
| It's because what she's doing is she's subtly threatening to expose him. | ||
| I believe that what's going on here is like her demonstrating and expressing to him, I see through you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I know that what I'm saying now... | ||
| Should get that through to you. | ||
| And when I don't say you're full of shit, I'm doing you a favor, so now do me a favor, and go along with this narrative that I'm building for you. | ||
| There's sort of a give and take going on here in terms of a con. | ||
| I really think that's what's going on. | ||
| It's fascinating to me to watch this happen. | ||
| Like, when I was watching this, I was like, these dynamics are heavy. | ||
| Heavy. | ||
| It's like she is working with a first year Second City student. | ||
| She's like, I'm an expert in this bullshit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You need to step up your game, son. | ||
| I can't be doing this with you right here. | ||
| I need you to bring the heat. | ||
| You're just a Pleiadian right now. | ||
| I can turn you into fucking nothing. | ||
| If you have A and C, you better have B. You need to have B. Absolutely. | ||
| You need that path, or else people are going to be like, I don't know, this doesn't connect. | ||
| Also, are you for real an angel? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| It's fascinating, though, to see this level of agency in her. | ||
| Like, I've never seen that much in terms of, like, sculpting narratives and, like... | ||
| Because she's... | ||
| I mean, this goes on, but, like... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| This is coming from her. | ||
| Like, she's suggested multiple things in these last two clips that are like, well, I wonder if this is the case. | ||
| So maybe this was the first time she just didn't do a pre-show, like, she didn't do the pre-talk show thing where you screen as bullshit, you do a little... | ||
| It makes me seriously wonder, like, if maybe she is allowed to have a tape recorder with Mark Richards and she doesn't so she can depict it the way she wants. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because it would be the perfect fraud. | ||
| I mean, he's in prison. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| There's nothing you could do about it. | ||
| Which would also explain why she is so mad when people actually fight against Mark Richards, because what you're really fighting against is my bullshit. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| This is my bullshit, and you're going to come to me with this shit? | ||
| Oh, I like that. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I like that a lot. | ||
| And it would also explain why so many of these people that are on her show are legitimate fraud people. | ||
| Like, Sean David Morton, I think, or Patrick Morton. | ||
| I can't remember his middle name. | ||
| He's a dude who's, like, doing time for fraud now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, other people have had, you know, similar patterns in their lives, or people who are just lunatics. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would explain why there's all these con men around all the time. | ||
| It's because she's like, yeah, yeah, you're fucking around, I'm fucking around, too. | ||
| They have a convention, too. | ||
| They meet each other. | ||
| Multiple cons, yeah. | ||
| They all get together. | ||
| They all get drinks after their panel. | ||
| Sean Morton, famously. | ||
| He did this thing called the Conspiracy Cruise, S-E-A. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| And it was like a conspiracy theory cruise. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| He went on it, and he was like the main speaker. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And there's like a video. | ||
| I think Vice sent someone out to cover it. | ||
| And there's videos of him like dancing around and being a real blowhard and stuff like that. | ||
| And the real comedy is that as soon as it docked, he got arrested. | ||
| The second it docked. | ||
| The second it docked. | ||
| The IRS agents were waiting for him. | ||
| We're going to go on my last cruise, it turns out. | ||
| He's been on Project Camelot like four or five times. | ||
| One of the times while he was on the run from the police. | ||
| That I like too. | ||
| That's a man who's a fucking alien right there. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's some solid shit. | ||
| Yeah, so back to this real quick. | ||
| That you don't actually have necessarily human DNA or your amount of DNA that you have from a human is quite limited, that you're mostly, you know, Pleiadian. | ||
| I look closely at the way you wrote your answers, the way you wrote your book, and my impression is that you're probably, I don't know if you say 90% Pleiadian or, you know, what your DNA kind of would look like. | ||
| That's what I'm getting. | ||
| I'm getting that, you know, she carried you, the woman carried you for a certain period of time and then gave birth to you, but in reality you weren't really hers, her genetic line necessarily. | ||
| Now you can correct me, I'm just throwing this out. | ||
| So this is where I'm going. | ||
| Was the CIA motivated to attract you to get you into the Marines so you would be shot down, so they would eliminate you because you were the most dangerous of the 33, if you want to look at it like that? | ||
| And you'd already demonstrated as a young child that you were kind of like on the road to becoming that kind of semi sort of dangerous. | ||
| So real quick, just because I want to pause before we hear his answer to this. | ||
| She is just creating an entire theory. | ||
| This whole thing. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| She's just like, okay, so really what's going on is that they knew your potential as a dangerous avenging angel being. | ||
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Right. | |
| So they obviously knew that if you went to Vietnam, you would be shot down in this helicopter. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Engineered the whole thing. | ||
| So the CIA did that to try and get you killed, even though you're an angel being of some sort. | ||
| So anyway, she's spelling this out. | ||
| Let's see what he says. | ||
| Prophesying, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| So they could have set that up. | ||
| And obviously the Pleiadians have to be watching over you your entire time here. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense that they would just ignore you. | ||
| So they actually rescued you from a life-death situation. | ||
| Anybody else would have been killed because you were shot God knows how many times, right? | ||
| Yeah, I still carry some of the scars today from that battle. | ||
| I mean, I've got one on my arms. | ||
| I've got one on my head. | ||
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I've still got a piece of lead in my right knee. | |
| So real quick, that's another trademark Eddie Page not answering the question, but he does almost immediately after talking about the various bullets. | ||
| It doesn't bother me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So you hear what I'm saying, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So do you think that they were hoping maybe you would die? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I really, truly think so. | ||
| Now that you said it. | ||
| No, I'm being dishonest with you now. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I know so. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Thank you, and I appreciate that. | ||
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I appreciate it. | |
| That was like the end of it. | ||
| That was like the end of it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You may go. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That is her. | ||
| Saying, like, here is me reshaping your myth. | ||
| And because I have so thoroughly destroyed you in these last few clips, he's like, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| All right, now we can proceed. | ||
| Now we can proceed. | ||
| Now that the dominance hierarchy is very clear. | ||
| Carrie's on top. | ||
| Eddie is way down low. | ||
| And you know why Carrie's on top? | ||
| Because she's queen bitch, man. | ||
| She's no slouch. | ||
| No, she's a fucking expert in this shit. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| She has been doing this for how many years now? | ||
| At least a few. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, he can't be bringing in this novice... | ||
| This is the big time. | ||
| This is the big league. | ||
| Yeah, you can't... | ||
| This isn't junior varsity shit. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely not. | ||
| This isn't a pickup basketball game of alien lies. | ||
| This isn't a pickup conspiracy lie. | ||
| No. | ||
| But, you know, Carrie's going to spell it out, why she is the big leagues. | ||
| You know, I'm not your usual interviewer, and I have very sophisticated witnesses, such as Captain Mark Richards, who was in the secret space program. | ||
| He was born around the same time as you. | ||
| Maybe he's a little older than you. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Well, he's in the 60s. | ||
| So anyway, and he and his father were in the secret space program. | ||
| So we have a space fleet called Solar Warden. | ||
| We have Orion vehicles that they built. | ||
| All of this was going on. | ||
| We were not just some Earth-based civilization when you were going through this stuff. | ||
| You were already, I mean, if you joined the CIA and you said above a president's level, I think Eddie's about to get some new recovered memories. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| Efforts to establish civilizations on other planets. | ||
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It's... | |
| This is the real kind of way that I would think that you would be useful, is in educating them in that capacity. | ||
| So I don't know whether that's above top secret and you're not allowed to tell me this, but can you at least tell me, did you have this kind of knowledge and were you able to help them in this way? | ||
| Well, to start with, they don't control me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They have never controlled me. | ||
| And neither do you, sweary-carry. | ||
| And the thing about it is, I've sat on this for a number of years. | ||
| Did they use me in a weaponized type capacity? | ||
| No, but they surely wanted me to. | ||
| Did they know exactly what I was capable of doing? | ||
| Well, I think the Catholic Church inaugurated them into education. | ||
| About me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Catholic Church inaugurated them? | ||
| Into education. | ||
| Into education about me. | ||
| That's an interesting way of saying that. | ||
| I would have just said told. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't, man. | ||
| Look, I don't know. | ||
| That, to me, is just another, like, I'm not answering your question. | ||
| But also, like I said, I butted in there. | ||
| I was like, that's the window you can get out of. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's above top secret. | ||
| I can't tell you about this stuff. | ||
| She's offering him the window out like a detective does. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| It's like, yeah, maybe that's what's going on here. | ||
| And he rejects that fucking window. | ||
| He's like, no one controls me. | ||
| Nobody controls me. | ||
| She's like... | ||
| This isn't, like, she's not trying to jam him up for a crime, so he should have taken that window. | ||
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Oh. | |
| There's no consequences to going out that window. | ||
| It actually helps your story. | ||
| It helps her quite a bit. | ||
| It helps everyone. | ||
| Because then she gets to speculate still further, and again, she gets to punch up your dumb story. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And instead, you come back with this, nobody controls me stuff? | ||
| You worked for the agency! | ||
| It's not that they were controlling you, it's that they could tell you what to do! | ||
| Right, or what you can and can't say now. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| They can do the whole thing! | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| So I want to ask you a question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you think that Eddie Page has been to Area 51? | ||
| I think he had a dream once. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Or a vision. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Here's what he has to say. | ||
| You know, I want to give you a lot more credit for knowing a lot more than you're letting on here. | ||
| Do ya? | ||
| Well, look at here. | ||
| I'm the... | ||
| In the book, I do talk about Area 51 because I've been there twice. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, in the book, you said you had to say that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| You see that? | ||
| That is my official ID. | ||
| I still carry my ID today. | ||
| So he pulls out a lanyard. | ||
| He shouldn't carry your ID. | ||
| He pulls out a lanyard that's got some, like... | ||
| Basically, if you're at a comedy festival, the pass is that you get the performer pass. | ||
| Yeah, that's the Area 51 pass. | ||
| It has some indeterminate writing on it. | ||
| It doesn't prove anything. | ||
| But he pulls up a lanyard and is like, that's my pass for Area 51. Carry it around with you everywhere you go. | ||
| Area 51 people are totally cool with you just wandering around being like, ah, I worked there. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| Now, why in the book does it say you didn't go there? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| When you've been there twice. | ||
| Well, he talks about Area 51 in the book. | ||
| But he's been there twice. | ||
| Also, if he is an archangel of some sort and half Pleiadian, how come he's not helping out with that shit that's going on underneath that museum that her other guest is so concerned about? | ||
| You know, the Getty is not really his purview. | ||
| You gotta help out with the Getty, though, buddy. | ||
| God can't get into the Getty. | ||
| That's an old rule. | ||
| See, that's what's so fun about these people, is imagining that they're all not lying. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because they're all lying. | ||
| But if you imagine that they're all not lying, it's crazy that they don't team up. | ||
| It's crazy that they don't all make a super friend. | ||
| That is a summer event movie, Dan. | ||
| That is a one... | ||
| Project Camelot Cinematic Universe. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can't have them team up for every movie. | ||
| You gotta have your phase one. | ||
| You gotta have your phase two. | ||
| You gotta do the whole thing. | ||
| See, that's what we've been doing this whole time. | ||
| And we're just waiting for Carrie to have a round table with all these guys. | ||
| And then we cover that. | ||
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And then we can really hammer this shit out. | |
| What's going on with the mantids and the reptilians and the raptors and the Getty? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, has she even... | ||
| He had to have met at least some of those beetle beings and all of that shit if he was in Vietnam. | ||
| Maybe he didn't get those memories back. | ||
| Why isn't she grilling him on all the lies that Mark Richards told him? | ||
| Because that one wasn't Mark Richards. | ||
| That was another dude. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And that dude hasn't come back. | ||
| So that part might be... | ||
| She might have... | ||
| She might have swept that one under the rug. | ||
| Maybe I don't trust that one. | ||
| I still recall, I think the spider leadership was in play in Vietnam at this time. | ||
| Yes, you're correct. | ||
| That was Mark Richards, but not the Beatles. | ||
| The giant Beatles, I think, are just that one guy who likes Beatles. | ||
| I feel really bad for him. | ||
| That guy was struggling. | ||
| Yeah, that wasn't a good one. | ||
| I hate to say that while I'm laughing, but it really... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| We can't do that episode. | ||
| That episode will never happen. | ||
| There are Beatles. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, you might be wondering what specific information Eddie wants to get out here on the show. | ||
| I believe it's that nobody can control him. | ||
| Well, that part is definitely a piece of his message. | ||
| But he has alien messages, too. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And he's not gotten to any of these. | ||
| And I should tell you that one of the reasons I gravitated towards this video is because it was the newest one that she's done. | ||
| And also it had to do with his prophecies. | ||
| Oh, he's got prophecies. | ||
| He has some prophecies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so I was like, all right, I'm interested to hear that. | ||
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All right. | |
| Here's what he's got. | ||
| So just a week ago, I mentioned that something's getting ready to happen. | ||
| And I went on my Project Aquarius Facebook, and I told people what was about to happen. | ||
| That early morning hour at 2.23 a.m., I was awoken and I was given some cordonances. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you gave those, just for people's edification, you did give those on my show. | ||
| Literally, the same day that we did the show happened to be later in the morning on the same day that you gave, that this thing showed up. | ||
| What a stroke of life. | ||
| The craft from the Pleiades. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| What a great movie. | ||
| The mothership, as you called it. | ||
| One of several that's arriving. | ||
| Right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| So they must be coming, obviously, and you also talk about this, I'm going to get my, I forget what you call it, but it's a black craft and it's very diabolical. | ||
| You said there's seven of them that have been positioned around our planet for a very long time, it appears. | ||
| Independence Day. | ||
| And that doesn't surprise me, but these are new ships coming in that you're talking about. | ||
| So it sounds like they're getting ready for something big. | ||
| Can you see that? | ||
| Okay, that's very cool. | ||
| So that's the one that you were describing, the black term. | ||
| It's known as a zillia blackbird. | ||
| It is a robotic weapon. | ||
| There are seven situated around the world. | ||
| I know where every one of them sit. | ||
| The CIA wanted to know too. | ||
| They didn't believe they existed until 1991 when we all went for the second time to Area 51. I still don't believe they exist. | ||
| But also, don't worry about them. | ||
| They're friendly. | ||
| Oh, okay, good. | ||
| Yeah, no big deal. | ||
| So, like, one over Denver, I assume? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And then Buenos Aires. | ||
| I would assume one per continent, right? | ||
| You think one per continent? | ||
| There's seven continents, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you count Eurasia as one. | ||
| I mean, but you can get rid of Antarctica. | ||
| You don't need to worry about that. | ||
| Oh, no, because there's evil aliens in Antarctica, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah, the evil Nazis that live underneath the ground, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Cat effector in New Berlin. | ||
| You need one of those over in Antarctica. | ||
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You need two of those over in Antarctica. | |
| For all the Hitler clones. | ||
| You know what the one thing that we don't hear about in this? | ||
| Nobody has ever mentioned Australia. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Nobody's ever mentioned... | ||
| They've been pretty much everywhere else. | ||
| Yeah, Australia gets left alone in these... | ||
| Look, these people have a lot on their plate. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| As you can see, when you don't have it fleshed out and you go on Carrie's show, this is what happens. | ||
| So a lot of these guys are sitting in the lab late at night with a pen and just like, how's this going to work? | ||
| Working these out at open mics around the room. | ||
| Got to get the beats in line. | ||
| So there's a bunch of Pleiadian motherships that are coming. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Plus these robot weapons that are like spaceships. | ||
| Plus all the other, and let's not forget. | ||
| Seven robot weapons. | ||
| Let's not forget, every other person also has some alien robots coming around and hanging out in our airspace. | ||
| And none of them we've ever seen. | ||
| None of whom have ever seen each other either, apparently. | ||
| Or they all have a detente of each other. | ||
| They have some sort of uneasy peace. | ||
| A Doctor Who style alliance. | ||
| Or possibly rapprochement has been reached. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| After the last war in heaven, the Courtney Brown remote view. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Any of these things are possible. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We make peace with our enemies, not with our friends, Dan. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So that all doesn't seem all that scary if we discount all the other guests. | ||
| If we just think about Pleiadian ships and friendly robot weapons. | ||
| Only seven. | ||
| It's not so bad. | ||
| No, that seems pretty nice. | ||
| It's not all good news. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| All right, so your people are coming here in ships, in motherships and larger ships, and they're getting ready for what appears to be a kind of a standoff or an out-and-out war. | ||
| And this war has happened on Earth before, as you say. | ||
| We know that you say Sodom and Gomorrah. | ||
| Look, I know a place. | ||
| Real quick, his argument is that Sodom and Gomorrah got nuked. | ||
| Got nuked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I thought she was talking about the World Cup. | ||
| We have a war every four years or so. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not that one? | ||
| Sodom and Gomorrah was a nuke. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| False flag nuke, though? | ||
| No, it was a real nuke. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In Egypt, I've been to Egypt quite a bit and know quite a bit about it. | ||
| So there's a place called Amarna, and if you go to Amarna, it looks like a nuclear bomb hit it. | ||
| Because it's been... | ||
| Instead of the remains of these temples and so on, there's virtually nothing on the desert floor. | ||
| It's cleaned off. | ||
| It's dust. | ||
| So the only thing that will do this to a civilization that used to be there is a nuke. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| And I've been to the Dead Sea area also, and I know. | ||
| So the signs of the nuke is very clear. | ||
| I think, you know, a person doesn't... | ||
| I didn't have to have some CIA guy tell me that. | ||
| It was just obvious. | ||
| That's kind of a dig. | ||
| No, you should still probably have an expert. | ||
| That's kind of a dig, I think. | ||
| I think that he might have referenced that someone in the CIA told him something. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And she was like, I don't need your... | ||
| Or it might be a reference to something else that I don't understand, but it seems very out of place, the way she said that. | ||
| I love when there's these small things that reveal the limits of their imagination. | ||
| Like with L. Ron Hubbard... | ||
| What's acceptable to imagine? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like with L. Ron Hubbard, the aliens still flew B-52 bombers, you know? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| In the same way, she's like, and of course it's a nuke. | ||
| Like, no, these are interstellar traveling fucking, and all the best they could come up with is a nuke from space. | ||
| It's a smarter idea to just throw one of those ships into the ground, and then it'll be over. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Like, why would you nuke anything? | ||
| It's way more, it would be way more devastating if something came, like, survived re-entry. | ||
| Yeah, a fucking rock! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, don't think about that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Also, she also later says that the Raptors are working with the Air Force, which makes me think about Raptors and B-52 bombers, which is a really funny thought. | ||
| That's a Calvin and Hobbes Sunday strip. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So... | ||
| So this is real, and you have warned the CIA about this in your prophecies when you were regressed, right? | ||
| That there's going to be another nuclear confrontation with off-planet races. | ||
| And instead of the Middle East, if I understand you correctly, you're saying it's going to happen in America. | ||
| Correct? | ||
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Well, what did I say last week when I was on your program? | |
| Well, you do. | ||
| There will never be another nuclear detonation on this planet ever again. | ||
| Okay, well then, what are you threatening? | ||
| What's going to happen in this Armageddon thing? | ||
| Well... | ||
| If it's not a nuke that they're paranoid over, then... | ||
| I don't have to. | ||
| You're a Palladian. | ||
| I have no doubt about it. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Caratacity. | ||
| And I... | ||
| I applaud you. | ||
| And may I call you my sister because everybody that I find out is Pleiadian. | ||
| It's easy to say, oh, I'm Pleiadian. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
|
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Whoa! | |
| We all come from a very source. | ||
| He doesn't want to answer the question. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| He just pulled the trump card out of the hat. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| He just went whole hog. | ||
|
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Oh, yes. | |
| That's how he escapes so much shit. | ||
| He just goes, oh, shit, you're a Pleiadian, too. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| There's only one way you could know all this. | ||
| Game recognized game. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I am a Pleiadian, therefore I know that you must. | ||
|
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Oh, my. | |
| How did I not see it? | ||
| How did I not see it? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I was on your program last week. | ||
| I didn't even see that shit then. | ||
| Were you at the last get-together? | ||
| How did I not see you at the barbecue? | ||
| No, they only. | ||
| We invited 32. Ah, shit. | ||
| Well, you know, my family kind of takes up a lot of the seats. | ||
| Apparently, they don't like my bad language. | ||
| Swery, Swery Carey, the Pleiadian. | ||
| Swery Carey, the Pleiadian. | ||
| So, I'll say that, like, I didn't catch this the first time I listened through it, and then when I was cutting clips, I kind of got it. | ||
| Like, I thought he was just completely dodging. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I thought that was for sure what he was doing, but then he immediately says this, and I didn't realize that this was him sort of answering the question, but he needed to stall a little bit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I didn't go to them. | ||
| And this place is a fire-breathing dragon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I like to call it, it is the dragon. | ||
| It is already awakened. | ||
| And it is going to be a very, very traumatic experience in this country. | ||
| Everybody around the world is going to see it. | ||
| And everybody around the world is going to feel it. | ||
| If we were not here to help the creation, man, the humans, and I don't care what color you are, how my personal feelings are towards you, Now that's weird there at the end, the way he's phrasing that. | ||
| Yeah, you didn't need to throw in race! | ||
| You really didn't need to throw in race. | ||
| And what made me really go, hold on, was to be like, it doesn't matter what color you are or my personal feelings towards you. | ||
| That second phrase, that second clause was like, hmm, hold on, hold on. | ||
| You could have gone, ooh, I don't know when you put that one in if you're going to go with the race stuff. | ||
| That one made me feel real weird. | ||
| Not as weird as knowing that there's a fire-breathing dragon! | ||
| Yeah, and it must be a pretty big one, too, because the whole world's going to be able to see it. | ||
| The whole world is going to see it. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| Big dragon. | ||
| Huge dragon. | ||
| It's a good question to ask as to where this dragon is currently. | ||
| We're going to learn all about the dragon. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Those questions will be answered, but did you have any other questions, non-dragon or race related? | ||
| I don't understand what the difference between loving scientists and regular scientists is, currently, in regards to this story. | ||
| Non-loving scientists are ones that would create things that are destructive. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| But these loving scientists are all about the red dragon. | ||
| Well, they're all about the, you know, like the Pleiadians are traditionally thought of as the light bringers. | ||
| They're the, like, very positive alien race. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're the ones who give us our happy dreams as opposed to nightmares. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| They're the ones who tell us that JFK is going to die. | ||
| Sure. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They're the ones who give us things that are helpful as opposed to kidnap us in our sleep like the Graves. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And they don't want to eat us for chocolate bars like the... | ||
| Raptors. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they don't want to do whatever the spider leadership wants to do to us, which God knows. | ||
| I can't even imagine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, man, this is where everything turns. | ||
| This is the moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's gotten out his prophecy. | ||
| There's going to be a space war. | ||
| Fire dragon. | ||
| That was kind of lost in the middle there. | ||
| There's going to be a war. | ||
| Oh, there's going to be a space war. | ||
| The Pleiadians and the Draco are probably going to get into a little bit of a war. | ||
| But the thing that on Earth we've got to worry about is this fire-breathing dragon. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Which we'll learn about in a minute. | ||
| But he's not a Draco. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's a homegrown fire-breathing dragon. | ||
| Put a pin in it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm just trying to find out if this is a free agent or a draft pick situation. | ||
| That's what I need to know. | ||
| This next clip is where I almost had a spit take. | ||
| Gary, I want to ask you one thing before we go any further. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Do you really know who you're interviewing? | ||
| Well, I think I do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll just leave it at that. | ||
| What did he just say? | ||
| What was the word? | ||
| I didn't catch it. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Which part? | ||
| I mean, play that one more time. | ||
| Gary, I want to ask you one thing before we go any further. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Do you really know who you're interviewing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, interviewing. | ||
| Well, I think I did. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll just leave it at that. | ||
| Did he just threaten to kill her? | ||
| It is a threat. | ||
| That was definitely a threat. | ||
| Oh, that's a threat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is creepy. | ||
| That's a weird thing to say. | ||
| That's really creepy. | ||
| Of all the people I've ever seen her interview, no one's been like, do you know who you're fucking with right now? | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Well, I mean, he's taken a rest from the absolute beatdown he had in the first half of the show. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So now he's ready to kind of fight back. | ||
| Now he's jumping back into the dominance situation. | ||
| Well, I think he's trying, but unfortunately, Carrie immediately smacks him back down with this. | ||
| Yeah, I have issue with some of the language you use, which seems to indicate that you are not favorable towards people of color. | ||
| And that goes against my brain. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, you're a Palladian racist! | ||
| You North Carolina Palladian bullshit racist! | ||
| You fucking bullshitter! | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm from a race of benevolent aliens who just turn out to hate black people. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Isn't that a weird coincidence that it turns out that a weird race of aliens who happen to have me living in North Carolina. | ||
| Oh, dear God. | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| So that... | ||
| She's talking... | ||
| And that's why I don't think she wants a writing credit on his book. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Because she's referring to stuff that she's read in his book, I believe. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| That's what I'm guessing that she's referring to. | ||
| Because I don't think... | ||
| Like, he hasn't said any of this stuff on this episode. | ||
| Perhaps he said some disparaging stuff in the last episode. | ||
| But I think that the... | ||
| But she's talking about the language you use. | ||
| I think that means in his book. | ||
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Right. | |
| That there's some disparaging things about... | ||
| Either that or she just caught that shit. | ||
| When she caught that clause, when she caught the I don't care what race you are, she was like, dude, you are probably a racist. | ||
| It's pretty crazy because I think that we've uncovered some pretty latent anti-Semitism on Carrie's part, but the fact that she's just going for it and just being like, look, I need to tell you, I'm not okay with the racism that you... | ||
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Which is hypocritical bullshit. | |
| It is hypocritical bullshit on her part. | ||
| And it's obvious why. | ||
| If she actually believes in all of these aliens, she is hugely racist to so many of them. | ||
| Like, she paints everybody with a broad brush. | ||
| These people are all evil. | ||
| Like, hey, man, come on. | ||
| The Dracos aren't all bad. | ||
| I'm sure that there are some nice Dracos hanging around there. | ||
| She's just a fucking racist. | ||
| But that's like saying there's good Tasmanian devils or good mongoose. | ||
| But they're sentient. | ||
| There's good cassowaries out there, and there aren't. | ||
| They will fuck you up. | ||
| Those birds are evil. | ||
| Ah, you're wrong. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I kind of agree with you, but at the same time, we live in the real world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's fun that she's calling one of her guests a fucking racist while he's on the show. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And he has to address it. | ||
| So here's his response, which I will say is not great. | ||
| But some of your comments are really difficult to take, so do you want to address that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I've been called a racist because why? | ||
| Well, I studied the Civil War intently in college. | ||
| I studied race relations with white people and black people. | ||
| In college, I learned a lot of things that a lot of people were accused of. | ||
| Real quick, we'll get back to that in a second. | ||
| When did you go to college? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Was it that two years between 16 and 18? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| When he was studying race relations in the Civil War. | ||
| Most of the time, even if you graduate early from high school, you can't go to college until your class would have graduated. | ||
| You usually have to take correspondence classes, and I don't think there would be a way he could have gotten an actual degree by the time he would have enlisted and gone off to Vietnam. | ||
| Also, you don't... | ||
| That's why he's still racist. | ||
| He didn't finish the white relations and black relations, which, by the way, is also segregated. | ||
| He made sure that he's still... | ||
| But I will also say that maybe he went to college during that 10-year gap that he's not explained. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Oh, do you mean on the GI Bill, perhaps? | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| I don't know, but anyway, it's just curious to me. | ||
| Where did he go to college? | ||
| If we're going to be truthful, when slavery first began back in the 1200s, and actually slavery's been around practically from creation, but the black people actually sold the black people to Portuguese and Spanish. | ||
| But it's how society has labeled things today. | ||
| I look at things that happens in this country, especially in the black community, the crime rate, the way they live. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Some places in this country, they live worse than they do in these third world countries. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Why hit this great country at one time? | ||
| Take and embrace and help these less fortunate. | ||
| But we haven't. | ||
| Now, it ends on a hopeful note. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| He doesn't mean that stuff at the end. | ||
| Oh, no, of course not. | ||
| I don't understand how we went from there's a dragon coming to, like, standard old racist in North Carolina fare. | ||
| Like, he's just at the bar explaining to his other drunk old white buddies. | ||
| He's like, well... | ||
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Well, you know, the problem is the way they live. | |
| We're not even close to done with how bad this is. | ||
| I can't imagine how we couldn't be. | ||
| I told you this went off the rails, and here we have hit the penny, so to speak. | ||
| The train has derailed, but it's still upright. | ||
| He could still... | ||
| He could save it. | ||
| He could say it's classified for him to say more about how racist he is. | ||
| Or he could expand more on that tiny, decent thought, I guess, that he had at the end of, like, why in this country didn't we do a better job of helping people? | ||
| He could have gotten into the systematic oppression that has existed in this country since the beginning and all that. | ||
| He could do that and maybe save it, but unfortunately he does this. | ||
| How can you even with... | ||
| A Pleiadian sense of mind. | ||
| How can you even focus on color of skin? | ||
| Like, why does that even factor into your kind of view of so-called Armageddon? | ||
| I'm not factoring in the color. | ||
| I'm factoring in the teachings and the attitude. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Tied to color. | ||
| I've already admitted. | ||
| In the beginning, there was many, many races from many, many cultures. | ||
| And the genetics and the creation was leading to an extension of the Palladian people. | ||
| Now, this early creation story, they called them gods. | ||
| But, when I look where the creation story actually began, and I say, although science wants to convince us that man... | ||
| evolved out of Africa. | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| And now they're finding out, oh, well, you know what? | ||
| Men could have evolved in the Indus Valley. | ||
| Well, now we're talking something. | ||
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I've always looked toward the black people as the ones, well, the Bible calls them the cursed race. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| And she even gave him the other like, hey, you're an alien. | ||
| The fuck are you so petty in talking about black people for? | ||
| And even you come from this Pleiadian benevolent wonderful race. | ||
| How can you have that consciousness and still think this way? | ||
| Not so benevolent. | ||
| Turns out, no. | ||
| And, you know what? | ||
| Here, here's what I want to fucking say. | ||
| I bet most of her guests would say stuff like this if prompted. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is absolutely true. | ||
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We're only hearing this because she asked. | |
| I would gather if we talked to most of them and were like, hey, you racist, they'd be like, well, not really, but hold on. | ||
| I have some thoughts. | ||
| Well, the Bible calls them the cursed race. | ||
| What? | ||
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Hold. | |
| I believe he started that thought off by saying, I've always thought of the black people as, well, the Bible calls them the cursed race. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you know, it doesn't matter what color you are. | ||
| I just want them out of my beautiful country that, I mean, yeah, I'm an alien, but I'm still an American. | ||
| That's the amazing part about this country, is if you're white, even if you're an alien, but like an actual alien, but if you're a white one, you're fine. | ||
| Also, I specifically think that that's in the Mormon Bible. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I'm not sure if that's in the Christian Bible. | ||
| I'm not 100% sure. | ||
| I think I agree with you. | ||
| I know for sure it's in the Mormon Bible. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| But I don't know. | ||
| No, that whole thing is racist. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I haven't memorized the Bible, and it's been a long time since I picked one up, but I don't recall necessarily black people are cursed in the Judeo-Christian Bible. | ||
| I feel like of the many times that I've read the Bible, I would at least have seen that. | ||
| Like, once and been like, whoa, hold on. | ||
| And you would think that people would constantly bring it up. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But I do know that it is in the Mormon Bible. | ||
| And if that's the case, then he's operating... | ||
| Is he a Mormon? | ||
| Is he a hillbilly Mormon? | ||
| Hillbilly Mormon angel? | ||
| Hillbilly Mormon. | ||
| I would watch that TV show. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Stars Nathan Fillion, we'd fucking crush it. | ||
| So now, Carrie tries to save it a little bit by using some really faulty etymology work. | ||
| Okay, and humanity is a race of warriors, rainbow warriors, and they are of multiple colors, and they are also called hue-man. | ||
| Hue, man of many hues, many colors. | ||
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What? | |
| That's in the language. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's your argument? | ||
| We are not descended from wrecking apes. | ||
| This is like so stupid. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Wait, what just happened there? | ||
| So then they deny evolution. | ||
| So now we're denying evolution? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And no discussion of it except for Eddie to laugh and yell, bingo! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So at least they found their middle ground. | ||
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All right. | |
| That's not how the language works, by the way. | ||
| That's not the etymology of human. | ||
| You can look it up if you want. | ||
| Hugh, as in Grant, and man, as in man, Hugh Grant is very attractive. | ||
| That makes just as much sense. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I believe the etymology of Hugh goes back... | ||
| I mean, it's different languages they come from, even. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| I had the specifics pulled up about it just to be really fancy, but who cares? | ||
| It's very obviously not. | ||
| It's obviously bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where would you even get that? | ||
| That's like Gary Busey kind of thinking, you know, like where he'll take a word and what the acronym is. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's that level of like... | ||
| Yeah, the James Adomian version. | ||
| It's like, that's not how this works. | ||
| I'm glad you get some meaning out of that, but don't try and pretend it's in the language. | ||
| That is on her like... | ||
| Her, like, inspirational calendar. | ||
| Those are those quotes. | ||
| I think more likely she just wants out of this, like, this stretch of the conversation. | ||
| And she's just like, alright, look at that. | ||
| What do you know about English? | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
| And he's from North Carolina, and he's only been to college studying white and black race relations, so he doesn't know anything about language. | ||
| And creationism, apparently. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But then, man, he's got to go, he's like, that could have been the moment where Carrie takes us out of the muck and gets us onto greener pastures, but unfortunately, fucking Eddie just has to keep kicking. | ||
| Like, he has to just keep kicking himself until he falls over. | ||
| You know, Ain't no Hitler got the blame for a lot of stuff that he was not responsible for. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
|
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Eddie. | |
| Hitler gets a bad rap. | ||
| Eddie! | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
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This is just an old racist who wrote a dumb book. | |
| Which apparently has a lot of racist stuff in it to the point where Kerry has to call it out. | ||
| But he does claim to be a half-alien, so she has to have him on twice. | ||
| This is not where I expected this to go. | ||
| This is definitely, of all the things that we've seen on Project Camelot, I never expected it to descend into weird old racist who grabs you after a comedy show and says, you know what, you're really funny. | ||
| Let me tell you about all the racist things that I have to say. | ||
| No, I'm not racist per se. | ||
|
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Hey, you, are you, hey, look. | |
| Are you cool if I tell you a joke? | ||
| It gets a little racist. | ||
| It's a little edgy. | ||
| It's a little you might want to say. | ||
| Anyways, it's about the blacks. | ||
| Also, fucking Eddie Page is alt-right, apparently. | ||
| Hardcore. | ||
| This is. | ||
| He's Holocaust-denying. | ||
| Well, he doesn't specifically deny the Holocaust, but that's how most Holocaust-denying statements start. | ||
| He doesn't actually end up talking too much in detail about what he thinks Hitler gets blamed for that he didn't do, which is maybe good for Carrie. | ||
| It's actually just the painting part. | ||
| Hitler never painted as a kid. | ||
| That was all just PR. | ||
| That was all PR. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| So we take a break from this vicious racism and anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| So we finally find out what that dragon is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is somehow going to come down to trans people shouldn't use the same bathroom as their gender, isn't it? | ||
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Thankfully, he doesn't. | |
| This is going to be just weird old man shit. | ||
| He doesn't get into gender, thankfully, but here's some dragon talk. | ||
| Well, you know, I know there's going to be a lot of people asking, well, what's this dragon? | ||
| What's this dragon? | ||
| This is not a Harry Potter movie. | ||
| This is nothing that Hollywood could ever think about. | ||
| It is happening as I speak. | ||
| Let's try the most deadliest caldera in the world. | ||
| It sits right here in America. | ||
| It's called Yellowstone. | ||
| Real quick, many movies have been made about Yellowstone. | ||
| So, he's talking about the super volcano, which is something that Hollywood could never have imagined, even though there's been a ton of movies about it. | ||
| At least five or six. | ||
| And even though he's also called it a dragon, which, again, Hollywood has imagined. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it is rumbling. | ||
| I don't care what the scientists say. | ||
| Surprise! | ||
| You're an evolution denier. | ||
| That's bullcrap. | ||
| Well, I dream the future, and I have seen this, so I agree with you. | ||
|
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Absolutely. | |
| I've seen Mount Rainier, for example, explode. | ||
| She's even cucking out his prophecies! | ||
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She's like, that's a weak-ass prophecy. | |
| Everybody could come up with that shit. | ||
| Come on, you idiot. | ||
| And to be fair, I agree with her. | ||
| Not the fact that she's dreamed it, so it's also true. | ||
| But just like, yeah, a lot of people have... | ||
| This is the History Channel. | ||
| Normal scientists have even warned about the possibility of that. | ||
| It's been very clearly on people's radar, and because of that, people have studied it very closely, and there's literally no indication that we need to be worried about that at present time. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Maybe at some time in the next thousand years or so. | ||
| I mean, it's gonna happen, probably. | ||
| Well, I mean, we even talked about this on that episode of Alex Jones from 2009, when he had that volcanologist on, and he got embarrassed on air, because the guy was like, nah, this isn't a thing we really have to worry about. | ||
| There's really no... | ||
| No indications that there's a threat here. | ||
| We study it all the time, and we have hundreds of posts around, and we'd be able to tell any kind of preliminary things to be worried about. | ||
| It does go off. | ||
| It is a potential extinction event for not just us, but like all life on the planet. | ||
| So we figured it would be a smart idea to keep an eye on it. | ||
| But because we've spent, you know, decades and decades studying volcanoes at this point. | ||
| I don't care what you dumb scientists say. | ||
| We fully know what the warning signs are and that sort of thing. | ||
| It's not like the 1800s. | ||
| People didn't come from monkeys. | ||
| It's not like the 1800s where things would really just sneak up on us. | ||
| It's gonna hit the black people. | ||
| It's probably. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| So anyway, now we get back to race. | ||
| When the book does come out, read every word in there. | ||
| And yeah, you know, sister, I'll tell you this. | ||
| There is some things that people are going to say, wait a minute, that's a little racist. | ||
| But don't pass judgment yet. | ||
| Read the book and see that, well, if it might have sounded racist to you, is it because... | ||
| The truth sometimes is hard to swallow. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That's not even denying his racism. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's just saying, yeah, it's probably going to sound racist because the truth sucks sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes the truth is fucking racist as shit. | ||
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According to me, a racist guy who wrote this book. | |
| Wow. | ||
| That's bold. | ||
| I can't. | ||
| I hate you. | ||
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This is... | |
| Whoa. | ||
| Woo, boy! | ||
| Whoa, he is doubling down. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Doesn't give a shit. | ||
| I am on. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Did you get this book? | ||
| What is this book about that there's some racist stuff just in there? | ||
| It's not out yet, but it's about everything. | ||
| It's about his whole life. | ||
| It's about the Pleiadians. | ||
| It's about how... | ||
| Nobody has been victimized more by black people than he has. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's no black person who has been victimized more by the Red Dragon than I have. | ||
| There's probably something about how Martin Luther King had it easy. | ||
| Almost certainly. | ||
| Some of these nice racist things that Alex has said in the past. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, we got two more clips. | ||
| One's racist, one's not. | ||
| And we'll deal with the not racist one first. | ||
| And it's about how, you know, the world got a countdown. | ||
| It's going to end. | ||
| There was a seal that was opened, and it's not a seal like, you know, we roll, unroll it in our book. | ||
| It's actually a prayer to Amadeus. | ||
| Anybody knows who Amadeus is? | ||
| Amadeus, Amadeus. | ||
| Not that one. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's mentioned in the Bible. | ||
| I'm sorry, Kerry, but the sixth seal was opened at midnight in 2010 and 2011. | ||
| And I have a very complete record of things that happened within 36 hours after the Anakim chant, the prayer to Amadeus, was said. | ||
| What a salier. | ||
| These things are still happening. | ||
| When that seal was opened, well, it started the old barn clock, the countdown to that dragon starting to wake up. | ||
| That's why Yellowstone. | ||
| It's starting to become very, very... | ||
| It's not, and that doesn't convince me at all. | ||
| When you say, I believe that someone said a prayer to Amadeus and that woke up this dragon seven years ago, that doesn't convince me that the scientists are wrong and that Yellowstone's about to kapoom. | ||
| They prayed to Amadeus! | ||
| He's got a detailed list. | ||
| Of all the stuff that's happened, it is true in both the Bible and the prophecies that he himself has spat because he is an alien. | ||
| However, aliens also believe that Jesus died for their sins, even though they're millions upon millions of years old, which means that all of them prior to Jesus, who is still only a couple thousand years ago. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I don't understand, because they all do it. | ||
| They all somehow reconcile the Bible with Dracos. | ||
| I can actually explain that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I wish I could. | ||
| Throw down. | ||
| I wish I couldn't explain it. | ||
| I want to hear some of this explanation. | ||
| Well, because a lot of the people who take on these alien ideas kind of blend a bit of Gnosticism into their view of Christianity. | ||
| There's like that esoteric Christianity that they subscribe to, which is actually another weird connection between them and Alex. | ||
| The better answer is, no, you cannot. | ||
| You cannot reconcile those two. | ||
| Somehow they just pepper in whatever they feel like. | ||
| They just toss a little bit. | ||
| And everybody has their own recipe. | ||
| He throws in racism. | ||
| I'm sure that's going to work well along with his aliens. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| My better answer, too, is let's use that. | ||
| There's bigger issues here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Him throwing aliens and Christ in together is not as important to me necessarily as like... | ||
| Hey, you're trying to Trojan horse racism into your intriguing dragon metaphor about a super volcano that you think Hollywood can't imagine but has. | ||
| And then also piggybacking some sort of authority in that you came back from the dead in 11 missing days in Vietnam and are an angel slash half Pleiadian. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No black person could ever do that. | ||
| They're cursed. | ||
| So we end this episode how he sort of wants to end. | ||
| I would say that there's other things he probably should use in his closing, but instead, he defends himself about racism once again. | ||
| Still further? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Man, is he going to throw an N-word in now, too? | ||
| He's not. | ||
| I admire his restraint. | ||
| So once you read it, and you see, holy crap, yeah, he said some offensive things about certain races, but God, it's true! | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you nothing that I cannot back up. | ||
| That is dismount. | ||
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It is. | |
| That's the way he's going to go out to break. | ||
| He's just going to toss that off and then it's bitty, bitty, bitty, bitty. | ||
| That's all, folks. | ||
| Nah, you're going to read this book now and you're going to hear some flagrantly racist things about minorities and then you're going to say, oh my god, this guy's right. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I'm going to guess I'm not going to say that. | ||
| It's a surprise to me as well, Dan. | ||
| I did not expect to say that. | ||
| But before this episode is taped on the 4th of July, which of course is when we declare our independence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| From the Pleiadian racists. | ||
| From the Pleiadian racists. | ||
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I got an advance copy and I'll tell you something. | |
| I believe every word. | ||
| There is nothing that he said that he cannot back up. | ||
| And we've just found out that Jordan is more gullible than Carrie Cassidy. | ||
| Because even she read it and is like, hold on. | ||
| Hold the fucking phone, you bigot. | ||
| So even she, like the most willing to go... | ||
| And see, that's the other thing. | ||
| I didn't want to tip my hand about the racism stuff at the beginning of the episode. | ||
| But I wonder how much of that was coloring her like, I'm going to take over the ship here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if it was, though. | ||
| I think that was just his incompetence in terms of answering questions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And his rambling. | ||
| But it's interesting to see Carrie, like, really take over an interview. | ||
| And then it's also really interesting to have that box opened that I'm sure she usually wants to stay closed. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because I think, I don't know if I had in the clips that I played, but when she was broaching the subject of the racism, she does say, like, there's some comments that you've made and people are going to find them eventually. | ||
| We gotta talk about it. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing. | ||
| So it could have been, like, sincerely her trying to allow him to do damage control and he just punted. | ||
| He just botched the shit out of the damage control. | ||
| He didn't punt. | ||
| No. | ||
| He didn't punt. | ||
| He fucking went for it on fourth and won, goddammit. | ||
| And you got a safety. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You got sacked in the end zone. | ||
| That was a disaster. | ||
| That was not good. | ||
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So... | |
| Also, if he said that, then that means she's not even talking about the book. | ||
| I think she is. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The way that you phrased that, she said that there were some comments he's made that are going to come out. | ||
| I think that's what she means, because Andy will come out means the book is going to come out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because she did get an advance copy. | ||
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All right. | |
| You're joking about getting an advance copy aside, she did. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I think that's what she's talking about, but man, this is nuts. | ||
| This is... | ||
| The Project Camelot world is just, it's the tree that just keeps giving weird fruit. | ||
| You know, like, it's like you get, you put your hand into the bag, and you don't know what you're gonna get. | ||
| Are you gonna get a murderer in prison lying to a lady? | ||
| That's what you could get when you pull it from the bag. | ||
| Are you going to get a gun scam guy who believes that there's a demon city under the Getty Museum? | ||
| You might. | ||
| You might. | ||
| Are you going to get a guy who used to be an elected official in the UK who believes that he has sex with an alien every now and again? | ||
| Who, once again, the best guest that we've ever had. | ||
| We might have to go back to Simon Parks at some point. | ||
| Not in terms of quality of bullshit, but he seems like a really nice guy. | ||
| I don't remember his particulars. | ||
| I don't think you're right. | ||
| I think he might have been a fucking asshole, too. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But, you know, who could have expected, when you pull your hand out this time, what you're going to get is, like, half of the show being this guy saying super racist shit. | ||
| Again! | ||
| Is he broadcasting from a rocking chair on the front of a goddamn plantation? | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| He is very rarely looking up at the camera. | ||
| He's sort of talking like this the whole time. | ||
| It's very uncomfortable. | ||
| But anyway, this has been our check-in with Carrie Cassidy and Project Camelot. | ||
| Happy Fourth of July. | ||
| Especially to our foreign listeners. | ||
| Hope you had a good one. | ||
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Enjoyed some dogs and suds. | |
| It was a bad idea. | ||
| We never should have done the whole Independence Day. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I'm regretting it. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| So, if you want more of our show, we'll be back to Alex Jones soon. | ||
| But you can check us out for more over at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
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| Correct. | ||
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| Helps me survive. | ||
| I think that means it's your turn this time. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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I mean, this one's tough. | |
| Well, you got a lot of contenders here. | ||
| Well, I mean, we did have George H.W. Bush and Gerald Ford come up in a side story. | ||
| They should have been there. | ||
| I gotta say, no matter how I slice this, gotta tell Hedy Page, you are a huge racist, and please go fuck yourself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |