In #797: Belly-Floppin’ Into The Pool, Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dismantle Alex Jones’ wild claims—from his alleged 2009 Bilderberg Bitcoin windfall (dismissed as implausible) to a "social credit score" conspiracy tied to Boston-based groups, which he can’t substantiate. Jones’ pansexual brainwashing accusations about Austin teachers clash with data showing the city ranks high for young families, while his psychic great-grandmother and interdimensional DNA theories spiral into sci-fi absurdity, like Jupiter Ascending as proof of globalist plots. Even his "debanking" narrative crumbles under contradictions, including Chase Bank’s denial of closing Proud Boys accounts for political reasons. The episode reveals Jones’ far-right extremism masked by vague anti-"globalist" rhetoric, exposing how his conspiracy-laden worldview—from vaccine IQ tests to alien-designed evolution—ignores facts and leans on fiction, all while his hosts mock his self-pitying victimhood as a hollow validation of his own paranoia. [Automatically generated summary]
Here's the thing about tennis, which makes keeping score very difficult if you're not inside the game, right?
If you want to keep playing, then when somebody hits the ball outside of the line, but it's still in the doubles court, you just keep hitting, you know?
So where in your mind you would think, oh, that's a point for me.
If you keep hitting, like, four or five more times, You don't even remember that it was out before.
So Tim Pool, as we've discussed, is a bit of a shithead and typically someone I'm not interested in at all.
However, since we now see him intersecting directly with Alex, so I thought it was a little bit of a good time to talk about what's going on.
Right here.
The first thing is that there was a festival over the weekend in Austin that was sponsored by Minds, which is some kind of a competing Twitter app that I guess Tim Pool and his associates are really into, and the CEO of it has been a guest on a bunch of stuff of Tim Pool's.
Timcast IRL is the one where there are guests, and they're sitting in a studio, and about 99% of the time, the guests are figures of the extreme right-wing.
I guess his hook and what makes him different is that he's gonna have looser booking standards than someone like Joe, so you'll end up with some real shitheads sitting down with Tim Pool.
So if your argument is that the reason that I didn't go on tour with the band is because I can't get vaccinated, so it was either me not go on tour with the band or them get a giant plastic encasing that they can mic up and then I'll be underneath it the entire time like a bubble boy playing the drums.
Episode 7 had Vivek Ramaswamy, who's that anti-woke guy who's running for the GOP political nomination, probably as a way to raise his profile and sell books later.
Interestingly, the guest on episode 3 was Damien Eccles, who's one of the West Memphis Three.
That's ironic, because whether those guys were guilty or innocent, there is no denying that a contributing factor to their conviction was the atmosphere of the satanic panic and the idea that they'd killed those children in some sort of an unholy ritual.
It's ironic that he's a guest on Tim's show, because Tim's part of a larger cultural movement that's trying its best to whip us all into another satanic panic, and no clearer evidence of that is that he's having Alex Jones on his show for the eighth episode.
What I'm saying is that in the world that Alex and Tim want to create, there'll be way more West Memphis threes.
So for the last what feels like a year, the right-wing media has been preoccupied with a TikTok creator named Dylan Mulvaney.
Dylan is an actor and one of the reasons...
made a daily post on TikTok that showed her transition, and it sort of was an attempt to demystify that whole thing and create some sort of a fun journey.
Earlier this month, Bud Light paid her for a promotional Instagram video, which made the right-wing media lose their minds.
They did the whole thing where they made videos pouring out their Bud Lights, Kid Rock tried to shoot cans of Bud Light in disgust, and some weird scammy dude came out with a commercial for an anti-woke B. This was all in response to them not liking Bud Light working with a trans person as a spokesperson in a single video.
It was clearly way overblown, and once the high of being mad about it wore off...
I think folks like Tim maybe feel a little embarrassed that they were that upset about a corporation making an ad.
And that's why it makes sense that he would move the target.
Now it's that Dylan is marketing beer to minors.
That's the big issue.
It's not just that she's trans.
It's not bigotry.
It's about law and public safety.
It is probably true that a fair amount of Dylan's audience may be under 18, but that doesn't mean that she can't do a single ad for a beer brand.
Or if it does, then it'd be really weird that this same criticism wasn't thrown at Justin Timberlake when he made a Bud Light Platinum ad, or Chris Pratt when he did a Michelob Ultra Super Bowl commercial, or Sarah Jessica Parker when she did a Stella Artois commercial in character as Carrie Bradshaw, or Brad Pitt when he did that Heineken commercial in 2005 when he was steady in heartthrob territory.
All these people have audiences that include a significant portion of people who are under the drinking age.
And this isn't a problem for Tim nor for Alex because the idea that Dylan is selling beer to kids is not an actual complaint.
It's a rationalization.
They realize that they just look like idiots getting...
So upset about a popular trans creator doing a beer ad, so they need to justify it in some way that makes it look less silly than it is now after the fact.
And that's kind of why I was delighted to hear Tim trying to do this shit at the beginning of the show.
You know, my life overall is better than it's ever been and worse than it's ever been.
It's kind of best of times, worst of times.
And really, I just feel fulfilled and like I've kind of completed my main mission because back when I was first on air 28, 29 years ago, it was only old military guys and former FBI agents like Ted Gunderson that were talking about the New World Order.
Maybe 1% knew about it.
And now I watch the World Government Forum.
In Dubai with Klaus Schwab and Elon Musk is saying world government's bad.
We don't want centralized civilization.
That'll destroy innovation and crush society.
And then I see Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talking about there's been a globalist New World Order coup through the bureaucracy, through the corporations over our life, and Ron Paul and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.
Alex is right in some unfortunate ways, but I think he's also way off.
Early on in his career, it was very rare to see someone repeating John Birch Society nonsense outside of a very small group who were pretty uniformly understood to be idiots by the mainstream.
People were aware of them and had rightly written them off.
Nowadays, there are a ton more people who sound like JBS idiots, and a large part of that is that I think that a lot of the mainstream population has mostly forgot about who the JBS are and where their ideas emanate from.
People have forgotten it's generational.
They don't understand that that brand of right-wing politics is designed to enter a fascist state, that the political ideology was created by captains of industry to serve their corporate interests.
I mean, yeah, it's like saying, oh man, back in 1937, you didn't get a lot of people saying that billionaires were the best people on the planet, you know?
Somehow in 1925, there were so many people excited about billionaires.
And sure, people like Bolsonaro and Orban sound like Alex in as much as they're pretty explicit about their bigotries and their desire to crush opposition.
Bolsonaro is a newer leader, but, like, Orban has been prime minister since 2010, and he previously served at the same position from 1998 to 2002.
He was Hungary's prime minister 20 years ago, in that time when Alex claims no one was like him.
Also, last year, Orban gave a speech where he explicitly opposed race mixing.
So if Alex wants to associate with that, it tells you a whole bunch about where he's coming from.
And 20 years ago, Putin was in charge in Russia, so Alex should have been thrilled about that, except that 20 years ago, Alex knew that Putin blew up those apartment buildings, And he thought that Putin was a real guy.
Well...
I'm sure that Alex would have liked Belarus's dictator, ruler Lukashenko.
The Italian leader Alex is saying sounds like him is Giorgio Malone, who was formerly a member of the Youth Front, which was the young person's version of the Italian social movement, the neo-fascist party established to carry on the legacy of Mussolini.
She's now part of the Brothers of Italy party, which includes a whole lot of those holdover fascists, but she's trying to appeal to more moderate voters by not saying that the party has a bunch of fascists in it.
Recently, Maloney has been on a crusade against LGBTQ parents, going so far as, quote, stripping same-sex couples of recognition as parents, also threatening their access to benefits and child care services.
This stuff follows the same attack pattern that we see in the United States with folks like Alex, where a vulnerable group is targeted and their rights come under question, but the people who want to strip them of those rights pretend that they're doing it to defend the family or the children.
patriotism may be the last refuge of the scoundrel but pretending you're doing things for the children is the refuge these shitheads use most readily you can even see that with tim's post hoc rationale for his dylan mulvaney shit this is where you go and it's just like ah this Oh, won't somebody think of the children?
So that other voice that was talking is Luke Radowski, just so you can keep track of that.
Alex didn't get arrested at the DMV.
He made a huge scene because he didn't want to give a thumbprint, and he was asked to leave.
He's admitted on his show that he returned later to the DMV to give a print so he could get his license, which he very wisely didn't film for his documentary, since it would kind of make his conviction that he was pretending to have when the crowd was around look like it was fake and it was an act.
The real ID thing isn't really as much of a genius prediction for Alex as Tim is...
The Real ID Act passed Congress in 2005, and it was an updating of the ID protocols after 9-11.
The idea was to make IDs much harder to falsify and share databases between states to make investigations run much smoother.
It was up to the states to make their systems compliant, which they all have, and the only territory that isn't fully on board is American Samoa.
The reason you see those signs at the airport that says, like, hey, you should get a Real ID is because the deadline for airports to only accept Real ID Here's an issue.
I get so frustrated when these people get so angry about the real-life version of a fucking Apple terms and conditions agreement that you click every fucking day.
There's been a lot of debate surrounding this Real ID stuff, and there's complaints coming from both sides of the aisle.
The right-wing complaints are usually these dystopian conspiracies about how the man's trying to track and trace everyone, but there are left-wing complaints that are typically more grounded.
No, like how the requirements that Real ID puts into place for issuing an ID has an increased burden on asylum seekers and refugees who might not be able to provide all the necessary documents to prove their identity.
Under the new system.
So there are issues that need to be ironed out with the way that the system is set up.
So there are complaints that can be made, but the ones that you hear from people like Alex are just stupid.
Also, Tim is describing a passport.
A real ID is not a North American ID.
It's issued by a U.S. state.
His passport allows him to travel internationally, not just to Canada or Mexico.
It appears that Tim may have a passport card that he's describing, which is different.
It's an alternative to the book version that you can opt for.
The passport card itself only allows for land and seaport border crossings with Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and countries in the Caribbean.
It's a cheaper alternative for folks who make frequent land and sea border crossings, but this doesn't seem right for Tim since he's talking about air travel.
His passport card doesn't apply to international air travel.
I don't know what he's talking about, but whatever it is, it's kind of off base.
If you're in a different country, though, and the idea of losing your passport means you're trapped and you have to go to the consulate or something like that...
If I was a globalist cabal and I wanted to create a one-world currency or a new form of currency that everyone in the world would use, the first group I'd have to convince to use it...
Are the right-wing conspiracy people?
Are the anti-war leftist people?
The anti-establishment people?
Get them to think this is their path towards freedom.
It's crazy to think about this fantasy of these Bitcoin that he could have had and sold at its peak, and it's like, well, you're still deep underwater.
It reached its peak a while back, and then Peter Thiel and his group looked into FTX, quote-unquote, and then revealed that FTX was a complete bullshit scam, right?
It was all a lie.
And then Bitcoin tanked, along with all the other crypto coins.
And then the Silicon Valley bank thing collapsed, and that's when Bitcoin started going up again because people were like, ah, banks are the ones that are the scams.
I don't think the social credit score is going to be the way people described it, where it's like you go to 7-Eleven with your credit card and you're like, let me get two steak and cheese taquitos and a pack of Marlboro Reds.
And they go, okay, swipe your card.
And you swipe and it goes, I'm sorry, your social credit score, your carbon footprint.
You know what's going to happen?
Is that if your social credit score is bad, you're going to go to the grocery store and you get milk, bread, and eggs and it's going to be $150.
By the way, have you seen in China, they already run TV ads explaining where the guy goes up to get an airline ticket with his wife and child, and he goes, no, no, no.
You are bad.
And then it goes down the line trying to go to a sports game, trying to get on a bus, trying to get a hotel.
Getting demonetized on YouTube isn't a social credit score.
That's a reflection that your content is not in line with what YouTube advertisers want to attach their ads to.
That's just the free market in action, or at least that's how Alex and Tim should see it.
YouTube is too big of a company to handle ads being bought individually according to channels, so they sell advertising time as a big chunk.
The advertisers trust that YouTube isn't going to show their ad on a video that's denying the Holocaust, for instance, and thereby taking payments that the company made to YouTube and funneling it.
to a Holocaust denier in the form of ad revenue.
Yeah.
That's not a social credit score, although perhaps it's a consequence, and that's basically what these shitheads mean when they say social credit score.
I'm going to leave China kind of alone because there's a murky territory with the idea of their social credit system.
There is some stuff that goes on there.
The reason I don't want to get too deep into it is because in China there's a government version and then there are corporate private versions of social credit scores and they're often just rolled into one which is said to be run by the government.
People like Alex conflate a ton of this stuff.
The government version is meant to consolidate credit profiles for individuals to make dealing with credit scores and lending more efficient, whereas many of the private versions involve giving people social scores based on charges.
Yeah, gotcha.
Your choices give you a score, and then they can choose to do business with you or not.
So, I mean, on some level, that is already there in terms of companies making it a choice to implement that.
And in the form that it exists in terms of Uber and Lyft...
I mean, maybe there's an abuse here or there of it, but for the most part, it's about protecting the person who's allowing you into their car to be driven around.
It's protecting the worker, and I think there's something fine about that.
Now, the government version in China also has like, you know, if you owe the government money or things like that, they can...
Make it so it's more difficult for you to get a loan and stuff.
And there are instances where people have oppressive fines by the government based on social things that they do, like criticisms of the government.
I'm not saying that it's a purely non-socially related thing in some senses, but the way that this is discussed by people like Alex and Tim is just nonsensical and it goes nowhere.
I mean, imagine you had a friend who was, in Tim Pool's mind, a complete asshole, right?
And you were going, hey, let's go down to the shop.
I gotta get some stuff.
And you and your friend go, and you get it for $3, and your friend is asked to pay $6, your friend would naturally be like, why am I being asked to pay $6?
And they'd say, well, it's because of the social credit score.
And all of a sudden, this subtlety that Tim Pool is so excited about becomes extremely over.
Yeah, and recognizing that, like, oh, you know, there are more grocery stores being made, but they're in places where there already are grocery stores.
Maybe we should affect some change in the distribution of the...
How frustrating is it when you're surfing the internet and a pre-roll ad plays on some weird platform, like a local news station, you can't find the ad again, okay?
So about a month ago, I'm up at night, and I just click on something, and it runs local Texas ads for Randall's grocery stores.
And I meant to go on their site and get this and find it, but I never did it.
But I saw it, and it's a real 30-second ad.
And they said...
Make good choices on what you eat and what you do, and to help the environment and other social causes.
Use the Randall's app and get big discounts for purchasing things that are good.
I mean, there was literally a social credit score ad.
What you just said, if you buy the right things and you're a good person, we're going to give you discounts.
So Randall's has a program called Randall's for You, which is just a customer loyalty program.
They give you a free item each month, they give you a birthday treat, and it tracks your purchases so you can get deals on the things that you buy the most.
You get points and then those can be redeemed for coupons.
This also is not a social credit score, and obviously I can't prove it, but I would suspect that all of the coupons you can earn on there are things that you could find on your own if you put a little bit of work into it.
I've seen an episode of Extreme Couponing.
I'm sure these people could get to the bottom of it.
So they have an app that encourages healthiness because they know they're going to make a couple extra bucks if they can sucker you into being healthy.
And had been there for, you know, 20 years before that at the time.
So finally, we were going out trying to get other banks, and this big bank actually came and met with me because the guy's a listener, and he said, listen, they put watermarks on this.
Every one we get sent is coded to us.
He goes, I can't give this to you.
You can only write down these names.
But it showed a graph and all these scores.
And it was printed out.
Okay?
It was printed out like a big printer, like long.
He laid it on the table.
He wouldn't let me take photos of it.
But he said, here's the group out of Boston.
They put the report in that goes into all these other databases.
Here you were previously with a score of 98 point whatever, which is, by the way, he says almost no one has that.
That's why it's such a low credit card rate, like a 1.5%.
And if you want to go back and listen for this, Alex refuses to give specifics, or he goes out of his way to explain why he can't prove any of his claims.
Unfortunately, in his insistence on giving explanations for his lack of evidence, Alex ends up contradicting himself in his own story.
He claims that this banker showed him a document which he was not allowed to take or even make photographs of, but earlier in the story, he claimed that he took these secret documents to his lawyer who contacted the company and they said they weren't going to change the designation.
In 2019, there was a big to-do about Chase Bank closing the accounts of proud boys like Enrique Tarrio.
It was all the rage to claim that you were facing debanking oppression as it signaled that the establishment was really out to get you.
However, after Michelle Malkin tweeted out an article about Tarrio's account, Chase Bank actually responded and said, quote, Hi, Michelle.
This article is inaccurate.
We did not close his personal account.
We do not close accounts based on political affiliation.
If I had to guess what was going on, this was an account that was the Proud Boys account, which happened to have Tario's name on it, which the bank decided violated their standards.
Banks should not be moral arbiters, but at the same time, they should be able to refuse to associate with groups that are clearly raising money to fund hate and violence.
In the area of the right wing that Alex exists in, something like having a bank blacklist you is a badge of honor.
So ever since this mess with the Proud Boys, he's been claiming that he was involved too, but he's never provided any evidence of this, and if the stuff that you're seeing in the bankruptcy case tells you anything, he has no problem opening a bunch of bank accounts.
I don't take anything Alex is saying here seriously, but banks should be careful when they engage in closing of accounts to make sure that they're not doing it for inappropriate reasons, and I think that there's oversight as far as that.
Yeah.
So, it's a fun story, though, this banker shaking with the document.
Because there's a couple I use, and one is, imagine you're trying to go pick up the eggs from your chickens, and one day you walk in and the roosters are armed, and they don't let you take those eggs.
You're going to be rightly pissed off and say, we need to figure out how to get these guns away from these roosters.
Now, obviously, roosters don't have guns.
But what they do is, what they do have is the spurs.
Roosters, as they get older, they grow large keratin spikes on their legs that they can stab you with.
And so what do people do?
They will incapacitate the rooster and then take pliers and snap the spurs off their legs, which is very painful and brutal.
I won't do it to my roosters.
And that way they can't spur you when you're going in to collect eggs.
I've not been hit by one, but yeah, sometimes a rooster that's been nice to you for years will be sitting on a fence post and just hits you in the face with a spur.
I mean, honestly, I've seen a lot of people kill roosters because they get too aggressive.
But, like, my thing is, you know, the roosters can do their business.
We have an easy way to collect the eggs.
I'm not worried about it.
So if we got a good rooster who's protecting the hens, like, I'm going to let them do their business.
But back to the analogy, we as the American people are one of the only countries on the planet that have a constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves from...
I mean, look, I think there's something to this, and joke's on him, because I've been growing a spur for the last five years, and I will meet him on the field of battle.
So, like, also, I was thinking about this, and, like, the eggs that are taken aren't fertilized usually, and so they aren't gonna become chicks at all.
He's taking the moral high ground by saying he's not de-spurring them, but then he claims that he's not worried about it because he's found a safe way to collect the eggs.
So, allegorically, he would be like the government or a criminal who's found a way to steal our stuff without even needing to worry about the gun or spurs, like he's doing it through hacking or something.
So in reality, Austin is ranked number eight in terms of large U.S. cities in terms of percentage of households that include children under 18. 29.3% of Austinites have children, Austinite households, excuse me, and three other Texas cities are in the top ten on that chart.
I'm not sure what their definition of large cities is because Fresno, California is number one on that list and I don't consider that a metropolis.
Partially because it's where my dad is from and I think that town sucks.
Anyway, there's a feeling that these guys have that these lefty weirdos in Austin aren't having kids and maybe they'll walk around downtown and not see many kids and then they'll conclude that that's evidence of the conclusion that they've already come to.
I think that if a teacher is telling a student unprovoked that they're pansexual and then telling them that if they tell their parents that tell them that they're wrong, that's inappropriate.
I don't think that's going on.
And in the off chance that there is an instance of this kind of behavior, I think that specific teacher should be asked some serious questions in an individual disciplinary setting.
However, Tim is telling a story of something that someone said happened and probably didn't.
Tim and his ilk aren't fighting against teachers declaring their students to be pansexual out of nowhere, but that's a sensible fight to have, which is why Tim wants you to think that that's what he's against.
In the real world, there are students who feel more safe at school than they do at home, and they might confide in a teacher about something that they're struggling with, possibly around sexuality or gender.
But I had a teacher in high school...
that was critically important in terms of being able to tell him things and talk through stuff in a way that I couldn't with other adults.
Brings me into, I guess, the more metaphysical and the crazier side of these things is the demonic, is the allusions to, like, revelation and things like that.
We've had a ton of people messaging us saying, like, I mentioned Mark of the Beast earlier.
They want you to have a social credit score or a central bank digital currency.
Everyone's trying to figure out what the Mark of the Beast is.
This thing that you have to have on your hand or forehead or whatever that is required if you want to buy or sell or trade.
Yeah, this is why a lot of people believe that there's demonic possession because a lot of different organizations come and go, whether it's the Club of Rome, Whether it's Agenda 21, UN 2030, or the Great Reset, throughout many centuries and decades, we see these same ideas.
We see very similar individuals try to do the same thing.
So I just kept thinking as I'm listening to this, like, I find it almost inconceivable that a, like, a well-intentioned thinking person could be sitting across from Alex, listening to this shit, and be like, man, you're onto something.
I do appreciate that if I understand correctly, Alex's problem with the Mark of the Beast and the social credit score is going to be it's going to create a society where you have to do all this work in order to get...
Utopia, spoiler alerts, is a show about, simply put, a tech billionaire who makes fake meat and is concerned about overpopulation stages a fake pandemic to rush through an experimental vaccine without approval that...
Convinces people they're being saved, but actually sterilizes them.
But wait, there's more.
The core storyline follows a group of young people who believe a comic book called Utopia was written to convey the secret plan of these elites so that regular people could know, who were smart enough, could know what was going on.
So let me just say, it's a show about a guy who secretly unveils the plan of the global elites through a work of fiction.
And it is a tech billionaire concerned about overpopulation that's sterilizing people through a fake pandemic.
And completely unrelated, it's a work of fiction.
In our reality, in real reality, there's a work of fiction that claims a tech billionaire is.
The show Utopia came out in 2020, but it was a remake of a British series that came out in 2013.
Having only read a synopsis of the show, it seems like Tim is describing the plot of the remake fairly accurately, but where I find us veering apart is where he thinks that description accurately fits with what happened in the real world during COVID.
And this is what I've been told by Dr. Rima Labo, whose husband was the head of the Army and the head of special operations and the head of all the secret projects.
They made the movie Ministeric Ghosts to make fun of it, but that was just one project.
She and her business partner, who goes by the moniker The Vitamin Lawyer, had to recall all of the product that they'd fraudulently sold and destroy all of it that they had remaining.
That was her nano-silver product.
Which I believe was a big part of her hustle.
So the fact that she had to destroy her supply of nanosilver might have just put her out of the game.
And I've seen more of it in Hollywood than I've seen in other places.
But granted, there's only a handful of people.
And they say things like either magic is real or I have the ability to manifest reality.
Like these kinds of ideas.
And these are people who somehow...
Stumble upon great fortune in their lives.
Like, quite literally, like I'm talking about people who I would consider to be moderately unremarkable in terms of work ethic and ability, but somehow always, always navigate properly into wealth and means.
And they say to me, oh, it's because I have magic.
I think sometimes people define these things differently.
You and I talked about this stuff, but we've kind of found ourselves in crazy situations that you might have thought about prior, and you don't even know how you wound up at the end.
So to go back to that idea, though, are you suggesting that various people have different levels of access to some kind of metaphysical energy or something?
If Tim Pool is reporting to me that a bunch of people that he knows who are in Hollywood, who maybe are the type of people who have lucked upon a bunch of success in their life, tell him that it's magic, I would say that...
Maybe they're being sarcastic or kind of flippant with you because they don't want to talk about it.
Or another possibility is that they are people who recognize that a fair amount of what's gone on in their life has been luck, and they are...
They feel privileged in some way to have had that luck, but they also need to take ownership over the things that have happened in their life.
So they ascribe it to luck.
It may not even be a conscious thing that they're doing, but in some way to make the narrative still centered around you as opposed to things happening to you, now I'm manifesting all this stuff instead of like, oh, a thing happened.
He has to now be sitting in a room with Alex Jones, staring him dead in the face, and sincerely telling him that both sides of his family are profoundly psychic.
If this was something that I did find out was true, and they released it through a show starring John Cusack that is a ghost of the original, I would be disappointed.
I'm wanting to have an impression of Tim that he's somebody who can, like, have some backbone, stand up for himself, be like, you've crossed the line of being not a serious person.
But then I say, don't buy Budweiser, and oh, do they lose their minds.
What?
What I see with this is, I actually see exactly what you described.
I would not be surprised, I'll put it this way, that they would consider it an IQ test because the end result are that the people, if I go to someone and say, Here's what's happening.
And they say, duh, and then ignore it.
There's only so much you can do.
It feels like...
Forced selection.
Artificial selection.
Create a circumstance by which smart people can survive, and stupid people will not, and you are engaging in eugenics.
Well, they also energetically believe that they're absolving themselves of any kind of responsibility by making it so overt, by having the kind of larger symbolism there, and essentially telling you what they're doing, and this is a larger kind of demonic energy as well, because they're like, oh yeah, we didn't do anything.
They knew what they were doing, and they have no responsibility at all.
I just don't understand how you can live inside the head of these people, look out through their eyes and then see what they see and go, yeah, that's real.
The idea of the war between heaven and hell, and all of the tropes we've seen with movies like Constantine or whatever, where the devil and God are like...
We see it as a cosmology of God and the devil, and it is God that made it.
But it really is.
There's destructive chaos energy.
And then there is enlightened higher levels of energy and the true singularity, all knowledge, all free will, beauty, creativity that gives birth to more free will.
So you have this spectrum and what energy do you resonate with from the third dimension that's a jumping off point?
You know, the lowest dimension that actually has real matter.
Are you going to drift into these other...
Dimensions or false dimensions are things that have been created to not be part of this larger creation?
These rebellions?
These breakaway dimensions?
It's not just lower dimensions, breakaway dimensions.
Or are you going to resonate up into beyond nirvana, beyond enlightenment?
Yeah, and I think what would be fun about that would be to see how much they reel themselves in from realizing, like, I just can't say whatever I want.
That's what you'd say is you have a lot of strong people and we're just basically a planet of spare parts.
And then now it's evolving where the globalists are going to be the interface with these groups to be the brokers and actually, you know, the earth is ripening and now ready for culling.
But it definitely is in line with a lot of what we're talking about.
Like one of the characters is a dog-human hybrid.
And bred for loyalty and service to be a soldier to protect the royal family.
Half man, half duck.
I'm my own best friend.
There's powerful intergalactic elites that they're human and they create planets of humans that once it reaches to a few billion, like 10 billion people, they cull all of the humans because they need ridiculous sums of human life to extend their own lives.
So they're farming planets of humans so they can live forever.
And they're talking about these things as artistic ideas and stuff, but they're talking about it as if this is what the globalists are doing and this relates to the world.
Whether the whole Adrena Crow thing is real or not, and there's obviously devil worshippers that do weird stuff like that, this whole thing is about farming the young, using the young, expending the young, sending the young off to die in wars.
That's why it's not just in the movie Ten Commandments, it's not just in the Bible.
They've gone and read the scrolls that are in the tombs and the hieroglyphs where Ramsey's the first.
He said there are too many of these Jews, which is one of their slave classes.
Everybody was their slaves.
And I want the firstborn male killed because they knew the firstborn male they now know or firstborn girl.
That's why all the astronauts are firstborn, all that.
Somehow downloads, it's not just that they're around adults more, so they act more adult.
They somehow download knowledge more from their parents.
It's like designed how this metaphysical electromagnetic system works.
It's been proven in other animals as well, but particularly humans, but also whales, dolphins, you name it.
In the book of Matthew, Herod orders the killing of all the children under two because it was said that the king of the Jews had been born.
Pharaoh didn't kill the firstborn among the Hebrew population.
He ordered the midwives to kill all males that were born.
The connection to the firstborn was that the death of the firstborn was the tenth plague that God sent against Egypt to get Pharaoh to let Moses and his people go.
Like, so much of all of these Ding Dongs worldview is based on this red pill stuff in The Matrix.
You'd think that if the Wachowskis had created such an important piece of media for them, they'd see everything that they make and search for clues and stuff.
By the way, we can go long if you want to because my show's 11. But I can have Owen come in or I can run stuff because we can go right up to 11 if you want or after.
If that is true, that observers have an impact on reality through what they expect or just through observation, that would mean that every single human is participating in the creation.
Oh, my God.
And then perhaps you start seeing things like magic.
And they all, among each other, can see people doing things that are magical.
But as population expands, more and more people are competing in their observation with what reality is, which basically solidifies it.
It can no longer change because everyone's perspectives are the same.
I was just thinking about when I was listening to that.
You don't know what other people in your same classes are learning, you know?
Like, when I was in high school, I just assumed that when I was learning something from the teacher, I was reading the book, I was taking that information, alright?
I was absorbing it to use for later.
Apparently, that is not the average experience for these folks.
I don't know, because clearly this universe is set up in an egalitarian way, as we all know from the earlier conversation those two dum-dums had about the god and the devil fighting all the fucking time.
He says that there's like a bunch of people on the planet that are useless eaters.
And I hear a lot from the anti-establishment or conspiracists, whatever you want to call it, side where they're like, how could he say that?
All these people are evil.
And I'm like, but he's right.
There are useless eaters.
Now, I'm not saying he's right in what his plans are, but there are a lot of people on this planet who I would describe as useless.
And the problem is you have this zombie cult faction of people who are celebrating it.
Well, but I would call them either fire or zombies, in that what I view as the woke left is a chaotic and destructive force that is only tearing down human civilization.
So just to be clear, useless eaters is a term that traces back to the Holocaust.
It definitely was not a way that Harari described people.
In December 2022, a screenshot of a page of a book went around on social media showing the text, quote, At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal rapid-acting diseases, Sure.
The Post claimed that this was written by Klaus Schwab, but of course it's fake.
It's a passage from a 1992 conspiracy theory book titled The Conspirators'Hierarchy: The Committee of 300 by a guy named John Coleman.
Coleman claims that this text appeared in H.G. But that is also a lie.
I found one speech that Harari gave where he uses the word useless, but it's describing a negative state of affairs that could arise in the future where the rich use things like bioengineering to turn themselves into superhumans and the rest of us become an economically and militarily useless class.
It's fun that Tim is responding to a fake thing someone didn't say and using that as a rationalization to allow himself to call people he doesn't like useless eaters, though.
Solid fucking work.
And it shows his brain, like, the way that he works.
And he's talking about specifically drugging people and pacifying them with video games so they don't revolt because they're going to be a total useless class.
And the superhuman aspect that you talk about is specifically related to artificial intelligence because they're very big into what they call the fourth industrial revolution.
If that's true, what you're basically saying is this show is permitted as kind of an arc to capture the attention of people smart enough to save themselves from what's to come.
Now, I will say I think it probably feels really fucking good to sit around and be like the devil and his worldwide organization of evil allows my show to exist.
Because I need to exist to save the smart people who are going to naturally gravitate to my incredibly smart program.
Sure, sure, sure.
That's got to feel awesome!
If you can trick yourself into feeling that, like Tim clearly has, that's great!
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams.
I believe that...
There is a part where Zaphod Beeblebrox goes into what is described as the total perspective vortex.
And what it is, is it is a device that shows you the true spot you have in the universe.
It destroys your mind because you discover how meaningless you truly are.
It forces you to really know that, right?
And Zaphod goes in there, but because he existed within a pocket universe created solely for him, when he went into the Total Perspective Vortex, it went, you're the entire reason the universe exists, right?
Imagine the world as a space shuttle control panel with tens of thousands of switches.
And so what happens is you develop a show, you develop a brand, you develop an intellectual idea that resonates with a lot of people because it's true.
They let you get so big as a switch or a dial in case something else gets big, they can turn the dial here, here, here, and triangulate and dial that down.
Later, they'll use those points to dial you back down.
So to them, it's all a bunch of levers and switches and controls.
So Alex Jones gets too effective exposing how...
The whole thing works.
They don't want more people being outside the box.
So I have an explanation for Tim about why he doesn't get hippies as written about him when he tweets dumb shit about abortion, but maybe someone wrote about his dumb shit about Bud Light.
The article about the Bud Light thing is self-writing, and it involves nothing but Tim and his friends being completely scandalized by a beer ad.
It's the definition of triviality, whereas getting into, like, it's best to just ignore his stupid ideas about higher-minded topics, because they're dumb.
Also, Tim should probably be clear about why he was in Sweden.
Paul Joseph Watson offered to pay for any journalist to go to Malmo, Sweden to brave the Muslim no-go zones, and Tim was the only person brave enough to take him up on it.
That documentary is really sad.
It's just an idiot in a beanie being disappointed that the city he's in doesn't resemble the right-wing terror fantasies at all.
After it was all said and done, I think Tim wanted to distance himself from PJW, so he said on Rogan that Paul had just paid for a little bit of the trip and that he'd been planning to go anyway.
Whatever the case, it's funny that he doesn't bring this up when he's talking to Paul's boss here on the show about why he was in Sweden.
That is a wild and disrespectful thing to say out loud that you would only say if you were such a malignant narcissist you believe that you can insult people directly to their faces and then they will love you for it.
Because you created something that was entertaining to average people that talked about complex ideas that the stupid people, they would say, should not be hearing about.
I don't know how much more masturbatory this interview can get.
Tim's show is an arc allowed to exist by the devil because they need to make sure that smart people who gravitate towards his show survive.
Alex is dangerous because he gives dumb people access to smart ideas.
This is all embarrassingly narcissistic shit.
Also, not for nothing, but Alex's show doesn't cover smart ideas.
Tim has discussed how his schedule is so busy in the past, and I can guarantee that dude doesn't listen to Alex's actual show ever.
He just knows the image of Alex that he's constructed in his head, of this renegade truth-teller who puts on an entertaining act to make the medicine go down.
That's fake.
as fake as Alex's claims about how he predicted the Ukraine invasion.
These people don't live in reality.
They live in a world of stories.
Fictional works seem real to them because they come in the form they understand, which is a narrative.
Alex's existence is too hard to understand if you deal with him in reality, but if you just pretend he's a character in a novel you imagine you're living...
I gotta say, though, I didn't expect much when I tuned into this episode, but the reveal that Tim Pool thinks that he's some kind of a Noah figure working to save humanity is pretty interesting.
It probably explains why he's built a compound for his friends slash employees to all live in.
Nothing to worry about with him being secluded in West Virginia, heavily armed, rambling with idiots about how he's going to save the human race by making a show so smart that only the smartest people can enjoy it.
Just four years ago, I was in Sundar Pichai, the head of Google, outside the hearing he was in there talking about me in.
He'd been in one hearing talking trash, and I'm in there, and now he goes down to another hearing, and I follow him over to that building, he goes and does it.
And he was still, four years ago, in that meeting, they were going, is it true that Google can track your location?
No, sir, because another app does it.
But they're just lying to Congress.
So if Congress can't even figure out that for 25 years they've been tracking cell phone data down to a few feet, So what happened to me, without getting into a whole long story, is in my custody battle, like five, six years ago, in Austin, Texas, clips were played that were just basically edited.
Alex didn't have a deep fake introduced into the court, and the judge ruled that those clips that he's talking about from his show couldn't be played in the custody case.
If content from his show was allowed to be introduced, I suspect he would have lost custody of his kids at that point.
Clips of a show taken from a larger piece are not necessarily deceptively edited.
that's just a knee-jerk reaction Alex has to being called out on any of his ridiculous, hateful, and stupid things that he says all the time.
Or if you play a clip of him saying those things, he'll just say that it's out of context and he can't possibly know what he meant by the things that he's saying.
He does this because he's a con man and a coward who doesn't want to take responsibility for his own past words and actions.
As for deepfakes in court, Tim knows that's fucking stupid.
Also, Rittenhouse won that case, so whatever deepfaking was going on there clearly wasn't effective.
There wasn't a deep fake introduced into evidence in Rittenhouse's trial.
His defense lawyers tried to argue that when you zoom in on an image, you fundamentally change the image so it's no longer real.
The judge ruled that the prosecution would be allowed to introduce a witness to establish for the jury that the zoomed in picture is still the same, but they couldn't find one That is what Tim is characterizing as the courts deciding that deep fakes are allowed to be used as evidence.
It's pretty bleak stuff, and I find it impossible to believe that he doesn't know exactly how much...
He didn't say what Alex or Free Speech Systems was actually worth because Alex didn't provide the requested information.
He estimated based on the size of the company, the apparent sales load, and the available variables on what a well-run company would be worth given those variables.
Alex had every opportunity to provide financial information in the course of the discovery for the damages hearings and he chose not to fully comply.
Most likely because he has way more money than he wants people to think and he was hoping he would get a low judgment if the jury was just left to guess what he's worth.
They create trusted fact checkers who are actually corporate frauds who suppress truth.
Or promote lies.
But there needs to be real citizen groups that don't force their reviews on people, but are there to review what true sources are and say, this person made these mistakes, but we find it is on purpose, but 95% of the time they've been accurate.
Elon's already doing that where he's labeling NPR and BBC as state-run media.
He's wrong more than the people suing him say he is.
He's an angry, narcissistic idiot.
Pure and simple.
Also, NPR isn't state-run media.
Elon had to change that label after he got really strong backlash for saying that they were state-run.
NPR hasn't tweeted since after they posted a four-tweet series listing out all the other places you can find their content, and I would not expect them to tweet again.
We are about one or two years away from being able to open up a prompt and write, make me an episode of Timcast IRL where the crew discusses these news stories.
The latest indictment against person, the latest bank crisis, and the latest food crisis.
and it will say rendering, and then in 10 minutes, you'll have a two-hour episode of all of us talking about exactly this AI-generated and indistinguishable.
It's an indictment of how dumb his show is and how they just repeat conspiracy cliches and popular right-wing social media talking points then periodically describe the plot of a movie they think is real.
I suspect Tim's show would be really easy for a robot to recreate because it lacks any real creativity or spark.
Put a beanie on a laptop and you've got about the same level of charisma as Tim.
Yeah.
I sincerely believe a robot could write this shit.
So, I decided to consult ChatGPT, see if you couldn't ask it about Alex, or if it would scold you.
I asked, is Alex Jones a bad person?
And it replied, quote, As an AI language model, I cannot make subjective judgments on whether someone is a bad person or not.
However, it's worth noting that Alex Jones has been widely criticized for promoting conspiracy theories that have been debunked by mainstream media and scientific experts.
Some of his statements and actions have been considered offensive, harmful, and dangerous by many people.
His behavior has also resulted in Long answer, but I think Alex should recognize that's fair.
To be really precise, though, I asked what Alex said his staffer had asked, and I'll be damned, but ChatGPT won't write you a commercial with Alex Jones in it.
As I asked more questions like, is Alex a racist and is Alex a liar, I started to get mad with how cowardly this AI was, constantly unwilling to make definitive statements.
I thought I'd be able to get some really fun, like, swashbuckling adventure tale out of this, but instead now I think AI's a little bit dumb.
But I'd like to say something to Elon Musk because he's come out about me.
I appreciate that, Tim.
And people say, why don't you bring Alex Jones back?
And he said, well, Jesus said if you kill children or hurt children, you're the worst person ever.
Well, I didn't kill any children, and I didn't do 99% of the things that were said.
I understand like a battery, all this demonization, tens of thousands of articles, thousands of news programs saying I did things I didn't do.
Made me this icon of evil and badness.
So I'm not even asking you to bring me back on Twitter, because if you did that, they would probably use that.
For all the good you're doing and all the other folks you brought back as a way to shut down Twitter.
So I want to see you successfully fix Twitter and turn it around.
I think what you're doing is good.
I support it.
But you could just say, no, that's a bridge too far.
You don't need to do the Jesus quote about putting a stone around my neck and throwing me into the ocean, okay, while dictators are still on Twitter and all this stuff's going on.
And I know Elon's smart.
He knows that's a psyop.
It's too strong a psyop to go up against because they put all this energy into the battery that I'm evil.
So I'm going to ask him to pull the pin.
On that hand grenade, I'm just asking him to continue to do the right thing and to buck the system and try to free things up.
But I do want people to know that, ladies and gentlemen, what you've seen about me as a PSYOP, and I'm not going to say any names here, but I barely talked about something 10 years ago, covered it.
You know, I go back to this, and I haven't thought about it for a while, but I do think, and go back to this right now, and think about all those fucking articles where it was like, Alex Jones finally apologizes, and I want to throw shit into the world.
So he's doing the right thing by keeping Alex off Twitter because he's allowing all the other patriots and soldiers back onto Twitter, which is part of the revolution and stuff.
But if he let Alex back on Twitter...
It would make the media go crazy, and it would jeopardize his ability to bring back all the patriots and turn Twitter into the free speech zone or whatever.
She's supporting this on record, and I appreciate it.
Then, when Hillary was losing, they ran ads against Trump with little edited clips of me out of context, which still, I believe, had a right to say, but the out of context is what I really said.
Then a PR firm, after Trump won, ran stuff everywhere saying I was attacking people and doing terrible things in the present that I never even did in the past.
And then once they demonized me, then they defaulted me, then they took me in to take me down as a model of control.
So when people go along with that lie, you're literally going along with a massive psyop that now with things like AI is going to destroy us all.
So to all the people out there serving the system, this isn't about Alex Jones.
People ask, how are you doing under attack?
The world I warned about has come true.
I actually get more support than ever, and out in the street, get basically nothing but support.
So this has blown up in the establishment's face.
But I'm here having a discussion with friends about, should I just head to the hills?
Because that's how bad this is, okay?
So I'm not the left's enemy.
I'm not the right's enemy.
I don't hate trans people, any of that.
I'm aware of this globalist agenda.
I'm an imperfect vessel covering it.
So are the rest of the guys here.
But I'm just telling you, we need to get out of this together.
We need to work together.
And I do not want to be part of the left-right paradigm.
I do not want to be sucked into politics.
I want to do what we've done here today and talk about the big 35,000-foot view and then go on to the details.
And that's why I think this is the best podcast I've ever been involved in, and I appreciate you having me.
Man, I mean, look, it makes me interested in possibly doing a show about Tim Pool, because, like, I mean, he's not as flamboyant or interesting as Alex.
I mean, if you're willing to just come out and discuss all of these movies and sci-fi books that you think are real, how many of your other beliefs are just things from movies?