#797: Belly-Floppin' Into The Pool
Today, Dan and Jordan set out to discuss the April 14, 2023 episode of Alex's show but accidentally veer off course into a ridiculous interview Alex did with Tim Pool just before he came into studio.
April 17, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
02:30:05
Participants
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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I need money. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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I love you. | |
| Hey everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Right. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today is we're going back to novelty. | ||
| We're going to talk a little bit about it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I was at a candy shop the other day. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| And... | ||
| Could not resist the siren song of two particular things. | ||
| There were so many candies to choose from, but I couldn't resist these two. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| One was a Froot Loops gummy. | ||
| Gummy Froot Loops. | ||
| All right, so they're like the Lifesaver gummies, but they're the Fruit Loop gummies version of Lifesaver gummies. | ||
| Sort of, yeah, but you know Fruit Loops has a distinctive flavor. | ||
| I've gone on record, and I'm willing to stand by this, that I think the Fruit Loops Pop-Tart is an okay Pop-Tart. | ||
| Famously, you are the only defender of the Fruit Loops Pop-Tart. | ||
| Now, the standard is a little lower because most Pop-Tarts are terrible. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So I'm not saying much when I say it, but I say it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you got your brown sugar cinnamon. | ||
| You got your strawberry, the end of Pop-Tarts. | ||
| Fruit Loops. | ||
| Maybe s'mores, but I don't know. | ||
| S'mores are a dessert. | ||
| I'd like to introduce you to my friend, Toucan Sam. | ||
| So those were pretty good, but then the other thing that I couldn't resist was a bag of Starburst cotton candy. | ||
| I genuinely don't even know how to... | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| It's a bag of Starburst... | ||
| Well, I thought it would come on a stick, but I opened up the bag, and it was just like a brick. | ||
|
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It was just a brick of cotton candy. | |
| And it was the red flavor, so it was red and pink. | ||
| Oh, so it's only that? | ||
| Yeah, it's just those two flavors. | ||
| Okay, so they made a starburst out of cotton candy. | ||
| I guess it kind of was, but I didn't feel like it was intended to be. | ||
| But yeah, it was kind of in the shape, because it was just a brick. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But it was good, but it also had a cough drop kind of taste to it. | ||
| That makes even less sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Also, I learned something about myself. | ||
| Don't like cotton candy! | ||
| Why would you? | ||
| It's kind of gross. | ||
| It's never been good! | ||
| The very idea of it is, it's best left to the carnival. | ||
| And as a, like, entertaining thing, you're watching the guy with the stick. | ||
| Sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Swirling it around. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| It's kind of like magic, but, yeah, no, I, um... | ||
| All of our carnival childhood stuff, you know, those are experiences that remain at the carnival. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I'm never going to get, like, a bear... | ||
| Or what is it? | ||
| A pig's ear? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Yeah, don't get that. | ||
| No, I'm never going to get that outside. | ||
|
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Corn dog, though. | |
| Corn dog? | ||
| You might get a corn dog somewhere. | ||
| Deep fried snicker? | ||
| Snickers bar? | ||
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What? | |
| Deep fried snickers? | ||
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Where? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| The Korean barbecue down the street? | ||
| I feel like I've seen that at some sort of high... | ||
| Fluting, putting on airs type of restaurant where they're trying to reinvent the deep-fried Snickers. | ||
| I feel like I have because I think I've eaten it there. | ||
| We've got a deconstructed deep-fried Snickers. | ||
| It's just Snickers and batter next to it. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I feel like that Starburst cotton candy might get a half-bright spot. | ||
| And then the Froot Loops ones actually, in hindsight, weren't very good. | ||
| But hey, I'm not mad at them. | ||
| No, it's the novelty. | ||
| That's the bright spot. | ||
| Not the follow-through. | ||
| Well, I mean, I just gotta let people know. | ||
| I gotta check in with the weird things. | ||
| No, people have constantly been wondering, are you still drinking seltzer? | ||
| And the answer is, I think no, right? | ||
| Every now and again, just not that much. | ||
| I still enjoy a seltzer. | ||
| I had a Perrier the other day. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| I'm not attacking. | ||
| Also, I got a little bit of heat. | ||
| Over my opinions about the strawberry cream Dr. Pepper. | ||
| I respect all y 'all's opinions, but I disagree. | ||
| There's nothing that you can't fight about now. | ||
| There's just nothing. | ||
| You can't even just be like, I don't like this soda. | ||
| You're welcome to like it. | ||
| Not gonna change my mind that it sucks. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| So what about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Oh, my bright spot, Dan, was yesterday. | ||
| My wife and I had the chance for the first time in a long time to go out and play tennis on a really nice warm day. | ||
| Been a while. | ||
| Sunny out, bright. | ||
| Of course, it's going to snow tonight because that's the world we live in now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, it was fantastic. | ||
| It's Chicago logic. | ||
| Doing great. | ||
| It felt really good. | ||
| I didn't even... | ||
| Were you out there on clay? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That's very rare. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's not a lot of clay cords in Chicago. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, I don't think there are any clay cords in Chicago. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Vinyl? | ||
| Linoleum? | ||
| Can you play on vinyl? | ||
| Rug? | ||
| Hardwood? | ||
| I would be interested in an indoor rug tennis league. | ||
| That would be fascinating. | ||
| That would hurt so much. | ||
| That wouldn't be good. | ||
| A lot of broken ankles. | ||
| And if you're diving for anything, there's rug burn all over. | ||
| The static electricity alone would kill many people involved. | ||
| Maybe this is how we solve the energy crisis, though. | ||
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That's possible. | |
| That static electricity charges the whole room. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, it's a carbon neutral playing court. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is how these tennis players can give back. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I think that's the way we should go. | ||
| How'd it go? | ||
| Who won? | ||
| We've never played a game, ever. | ||
| We just don't do any of that. | ||
| It's a little back and forth? | ||
| We just go out there, we hit the ball back and forth for an hour, and sometimes good things happen and people go, ah! | ||
| And that's pretty much it. | ||
| It's enjoyable. | ||
| Let me put you on the spot here. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Are you telling me that you're not keeping score in your head, even if you're not, like, competing? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, honestly, because with tennis... | ||
| I might believe you. | ||
| Here's the thing about tennis, which makes keeping score very difficult if you're not inside the game, right? | ||
| If you want to keep playing, then when somebody hits the ball outside of the line, but it's still in the doubles court, you just keep hitting, you know? | ||
| So where in your mind you would think, oh, that's a point for me. | ||
| If you keep hitting, like, four or five more times, You don't even remember that it was out before. | ||
| You know, that's a completely different point. | ||
| I don't keep track of that. | ||
| Yeah, tennis is dumb that way. | ||
| It is dumb that way. | ||
| It's not like one point, two points. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's back and forth and all this. | ||
| It's very silly. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| At a one point, they call the score deuce, even though it's tied and it doesn't have anything to do with two. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, today we have an episode that went quite far afield of where I meant it to go. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Today we're... | ||
| Sort of talking about April 14th, 2023, which is Friday's episode. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Sort of talking about that. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And all will make sense in due time. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But before we get to any of that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Regina Calabresi, your friendly neighborhood cult whisperer. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, I would like a BLT, but this time I don't want cucumbers in it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| That's gotta be some kind of an inside joke that I hope isn't offensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next, welcome to the world, Alexandra Noel. | ||
| Congratulations to Alan and Cynthia. | ||
| Alan, this is where I'm supposed to insert Stone Cold's glass-breaking intro sound, but I... | ||
| I'll still Stone Cold stunner you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, happy birthday, Erica. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| You're GF Jade. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| What does GF stand for? | ||
| Gluten-free? | ||
| Oh! | ||
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What? | |
| Where is this coming from? | ||
| I had to undo the sweetness of the I love you and stuff. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| We got a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So first, my dad said Alex Jones has some good points, so I'm considering going no contact. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And Peter and Wiley technocrats, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Call home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you all. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| I've listened to a lot of Alex shows. | ||
| I have heard that in the past. | ||
| I've listened to quite a few. | ||
| And this April 14th episode started like no other that I think I've ever heard. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| If I've heard something like this, it's been so far in the past that I've forgotten about it. | ||
| This was pretty funny. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| It's Friday. | ||
| April 14th, 2023. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones, live from my car. | ||
| As we speak, I'm pulling up to the studios. | ||
| I'll be live on air in T-minus five minutes. | ||
|
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Stay with us. | |
| We've got a big broadcast coming up today. | ||
| Hey, this is Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm running late. | ||
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You cannot call into work late if you're a live show. | |
| That's not fair. | ||
| Well, it certainly raises a lot of questions. | ||
| The first is, why didn't they just air a special report? | ||
| They usually do that in the first five minutes of the show. | ||
| And then start at six after. | ||
| It's that chunk that isn't broadcast on a lot of the radio stations that he's on. | ||
| So it's kind of just a forgotten zone. | ||
| There's no reason for him to call in from his car and be like, hey guys, I'll be right there. | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| I've done that so many times before. | ||
| I've done that. | ||
| Hey boss, I'm going to be 15 minutes late this morning. | ||
| Sorry, my bad. | ||
| Hey, I'm on my way and that means I'm about to get in the shower. | ||
| I'll be there maybe in an hour. | ||
| I'll be there a half hour. | ||
| Half hour 45. Five minutes max. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very strange, but I liked it. | ||
| That gives a certain urgency that I wasn't expecting, and I actually think that's a good way to start for him. | ||
| I was intrigued for maybe a minute after he got on the show. | ||
| And speaking of AI, I just had a two-plus hour great conversation with Tim Poole, who's here in Austin, Texas, with his morning popular podcast. | ||
| And I'll be back with him tonight with his nighttime popular podcast, extremely hit podcast at the Vulcan Gas Company. | ||
| I think Joe Rogan's going to be popping by, says he is. | ||
| And so that should be – that should definitely be interesting. | ||
| There will be some excerpts of that. | ||
| I've got to say, I've done a lot of podcasts and I've done TimCast. | ||
| Five or six times, I think. | ||
| But this was the best one, and this was one of the best podcasts I've ever been involved in. | ||
| Two hours of breaking down the secrets of the New World Order, the AI takeover, the battle for the future of humanity. | ||
| I definitely am going to get some big excerpts of that podcast and air it on the Sunday show. | ||
| So now we know why he was late. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he was recording another show. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he's giving himself a really good way to be, like, stupid hungover and drunk all weekend at the Vulcan Gas Company and what have you. | ||
| I have to play all this shit on Sunday. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
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Yep, yep, yep, yep. | |
| It's a light weekend. | ||
| Yeah, that's nice. | ||
| So Tim Pool, as we've discussed, is a bit of a shithead and typically someone I'm not interested in at all. | ||
| However, since we now see him intersecting directly with Alex, so I thought it was a little bit of a good time to talk about what's going on. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| The first thing is that there was a festival over the weekend in Austin that was sponsored by Minds, which is some kind of a competing Twitter app that I guess Tim Pool and his associates are really into, and the CEO of it has been a guest on a bunch of stuff of Tim Pool's. | ||
| All right, it's Minds? | ||
| Minds. | ||
| Minds. | ||
| With a D and an S. With a D and an S. Okay, okay. | ||
| Yeah, like your head. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| So because Tim's really into this, his whole crew is in Austin, and most of Tim's whack pack make up the panels for most... | ||
| the festival, like that co-host that he has who thought that Ye was right about Hitler or Alex's old friend Luke Radowski from We Are Change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Simultaneously, right now, Tim is trying to rebrand. | ||
| For years, he's done Timcast and Timcast IRL, which are apparently two different shows. | ||
| Had no idea. | ||
| Timcast IRL is the one where there are guests, and they're sitting in a studio, and about 99% of the time, the guests are figures of the extreme right-wing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it features an incoherent panel discussion about right-wing culture war obsessions. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Timcast, on the other hand, was his show where, like, Tim would just be by himself, and he'd cold read. | ||
| Read news headlines and then riff about them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Trash. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| So it's TimCast and then TimCast ignorant racist losers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It was a real, like, the TimCast one where he's just talking about news stories was a real clickbait-ass game. | ||
| And the thumbnails for those videos were a constant source of criticism for him. | ||
| He'd have attention-grabbing announcements like, quote, Paul Pelosi attack story gets crazier as attacker's son says maybe he was sex slave. | ||
| Or, of course, who could forget, quote, Joe Rogan predicts... | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You know, sometimes it can feel that way. | ||
| Emotionally, I can resonate with the feeling of apocalypse. | ||
| And that's why you put it in a clickbait headline. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Because it resonates with you, and you're like, maybe I'll click on this, see how apocalyptic it gets. | ||
| That's how it works. | ||
| It's a trash show, and probably wasn't bringing in the kind of revenue that Timcast IRL was. | ||
| So a couple months back, Tim decided that channel is done. | ||
| He's done with that channel. | ||
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Smart. | |
| And he's going to start a secondary show there called The Culture War, where he sits down with a single guest and pretends he's Joe Rogan. | ||
| Dumb. | ||
| I guess his hook and what makes him different is that he's gonna have looser booking standards than someone like Joe, so you'll end up with some real shitheads sitting down with Tim Pool. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Alex was the guest on the eighth episode of that show, and up till that point he'd had some heavy hitters on. | ||
| There was an episode with the former drummer of Offspring who left the band over vaccination issues and then joined Tim Pool's band. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| The drummer from Offspring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Offspring, the Offspring I recall. | ||
| Yeah, the kids are alright. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The kids aren't alright. | ||
| The Offspring. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Keep them separated. | ||
| They broke up because he... | ||
| Come out and play. | ||
| He didn't like the band's vaccine stance. | ||
| No, I think, from what I understand, I don't know. | ||
| They asked him to get vaccinated and he was like, I'm leaving the band! | ||
| I didn't dig too deeply into this, but from what I understand... | ||
| His version of it is he had a medical reason why he couldn't get vaccinated. | ||
| And there were too many issues with touring and accommodating unvaccinated persons in the band. | ||
| And so they were like, I don't know. | ||
| It seems to me like if that were really the story, they would have been able to work that out. | ||
| It seems to me like maybe he's an asshole. | ||
| The fact that he's hanging out with Tim Pool and joined Tim Pool's band. | ||
| Yeah, I mean that kind of says... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's definitely more circumstantial evidence. | ||
| I mean, let's put it this way, okay? | ||
| So if your argument is that the reason that I didn't go on tour with the band is because I can't get vaccinated, so it was either me not go on tour with the band or them get a giant plastic encasing that they can mic up and then I'll be underneath it the entire time like a bubble boy playing the drums. | ||
| Or have, like, you know, a decent conversation with your bandmates that you've been together with for so long and just be like, I'll sit... | ||
| Send out this tour. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I'll see you on the next one. | ||
| Seems right. | ||
| They're not going to replace you with the fill-in drummer or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I do love playing the drum part from The Kids Aren't Alright on Rock Band. | ||
| I always loved that. | ||
| So maybe this guy and I are more connected than I think. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I just think that not going on one tour is not enough to just make you go, well, I guess I'm a Nazi now. | ||
| I don't know what he is. | ||
| I think he was probably a Nazi beforehand. | ||
| I don't know what his political views are. | ||
| I didn't listen to that episode. | ||
| He's just on Tim Pool's show. | ||
| That's all you know. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So episode four brought us someone named Sovereign Brah. | ||
| B-R-A-H. | ||
| Brah. | ||
| Come on, Brah. | ||
| Come on, Brah. | ||
| I'm Sovereign. | ||
| I have no idea who he is. | ||
| He's Sovereign. | ||
| I tried to figure it out. | ||
| I have no idea who this dude is. | ||
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You can't really Google Sovereign Brah. | |
| It's a good branding. | ||
| Sovereign, bruh. | ||
| Episode 7 had Vivek Ramaswamy, who's that anti-woke guy who's running for the GOP political nomination, probably as a way to raise his profile and sell books later. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Interestingly, the guest on episode 3 was Damien Eccles, who's one of the West Memphis Three. | ||
| That's ironic, because whether those guys were guilty or innocent, there is no denying that a contributing factor to their conviction was the atmosphere of the satanic panic and the idea that they'd killed those children in some sort of an unholy ritual. | ||
| It's ironic that he's a guest on Tim's show, because Tim's part of a larger cultural movement that's trying its best to whip us all into another satanic panic, and no clearer evidence of that is that he's having Alex Jones on his show for the eighth episode. | ||
| What I'm saying is that in the world that Alex and Tim want to create, there'll be way more West Memphis threes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got to thinking, and Alex's description of this interview sounded great. | ||
| It's one of his best ever. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| He was late for work. | ||
| Oh, no, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I decided I couldn't pass it up. | ||
| Oh, God damn it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| Now, I will tell you that it was my sincere intention to... | ||
| Cover this episode and then get back to something else. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I couldn't. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| I got sucked in. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's his best interview. | ||
| I drowned in the pool. | ||
| It's his best interview there's ever been. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Get a pool filled with water and then you dive in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's Kendrick now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pull up, drink, because we're about to get into the pool. | ||
| That's a good call. | ||
| So here's where he starts. | ||
| This was just like, I heard this and I was like, well, we're in for it. | ||
| But actually, we'll just get started. | ||
| Waste no time. | ||
| Budweiser, man. | ||
| I want to start with this. | ||
| Because we were literally just talking before we pressed record on this show about Joe Rogan's on his show cracking a Bud Light with his buddies. | ||
| And he was saying, like, I don't understand. | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's goofy. | ||
| So I was mentioning, like, I just texted him. | ||
| I was like, look, Dylan Mulvaney is selling alcohol, is marketing alcohol to children. | ||
| And so it's trans issues and it's alcohol being marketed to children. | ||
| So I'm not surprised people are pissed off about this, but how are you guys doing? | ||
| You just nailed it. | ||
| Do you think that Joe's audience isn't also people who are under 18? | ||
| He's marketing alcohol and weed to them at DMT. | ||
| Call Jim Baker. | ||
| I'm so confused. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I just don't want to have this. | ||
| I don't want to talk about Bud Light. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just don't. | ||
| I'm going to breeze through this a little bit to give some context to people who are listening who maybe are in the same boat as you. | ||
| Good, good. | ||
| So for the last what feels like a year, the right-wing media has been preoccupied with a TikTok creator named Dylan Mulvaney. | ||
| Dylan is an actor and one of the reasons... | ||
| made a daily post on TikTok that showed her transition, and it sort of was an attempt to demystify that whole thing and create some sort of a fun journey. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Through that, she's accrued millions of followers. | ||
| I don't use TikTok, so without people like Tim and Matt Walsh complaining about her nonstop, I would have no idea who Dylan is. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Earlier this month, Bud Light paid her for a promotional Instagram video, which made the right-wing media lose their minds. | |
| They did the whole thing where they made videos pouring out their Bud Lights, Kid Rock tried to shoot cans of Bud Light in disgust, and some weird scammy dude came out with a commercial for an anti-woke B. This was all in response to them not liking Bud Light working with a trans person as a spokesperson in a single video. | ||
| It was clearly way overblown, and once the high of being mad about it wore off... | ||
| I think folks like Tim maybe feel a little embarrassed that they were that upset about a corporation making an ad. | ||
| I would hope so. | ||
| And that's why it makes sense that he would move the target. | ||
| Now it's that Dylan is marketing beer to minors. | ||
| That's the big issue. | ||
| It's not just that she's trans. | ||
| It's not bigotry. | ||
| It's about law and public safety. | ||
| It is probably true that a fair amount of Dylan's audience may be under 18, but that doesn't mean that she can't do a single ad for a beer brand. | ||
| Or if it does, then it'd be really weird that this same criticism wasn't thrown at Justin Timberlake when he made a Bud Light Platinum ad, or Chris Pratt when he did a Michelob Ultra Super Bowl commercial, or Sarah Jessica Parker when she did a Stella Artois commercial in character as Carrie Bradshaw, or Brad Pitt when he did that Heineken commercial in 2005 when he was steady in heartthrob territory. | ||
| Or Bob Dole when he did that Pepsi commercial with Britney Spears and it made me think that he was ejaculating. | ||
| Or Joe Rogan and Alex when they get wasted on apple juice on his show. | ||
| Yeah, that one makes more sense. | ||
| All these people have audiences that include a significant portion of people who are under the drinking age. | ||
| And this isn't a problem for Tim nor for Alex because the idea that Dylan is selling beer to kids is not an actual complaint. | ||
| It's a rationalization. | ||
| They realize that they just look like idiots getting... | ||
| So upset about a popular trans creator doing a beer ad, so they need to justify it in some way that makes it look less silly than it is now after the fact. | ||
| And that's kind of why I was delighted to hear Tim trying to do this shit at the beginning of the show. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's going to be where you go. | ||
| He brainstormed that. | ||
| That took a while to get to. | ||
| That took a while to get to. | ||
| He probably had a whole team on it. | ||
| Luke Radowski, the brain trust. | ||
| How do we not sound like fucking idiots? | ||
| Yeah, guys, we really whiffed on this one. | ||
| We really whiffed on this one. | ||
| People are really making fun of us. | ||
| We're mad about a beer commercial. | ||
| Are we gonna do that again? | ||
| Apparently so. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Apparently so. | ||
| So, Alex, you know, we get into this. | ||
| How you doing, Alex? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And he gets a little Dickensian. | ||
| Best of times, worst of times. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How you doing, Alex? | ||
| It's good to be here. | ||
| What's been going on? | ||
| How's life? | ||
| What are you working on? | ||
| You know, my life overall is better than it's ever been and worse than it's ever been. | ||
| It's kind of best of times, worst of times. | ||
| And really, I just feel fulfilled and like I've kind of completed my main mission because back when I was first on air 28, 29 years ago, it was only old military guys and former FBI agents like Ted Gunderson that were talking about the New World Order. | ||
| Maybe 1% knew about it. | ||
| And now I watch the World Government Forum. | ||
| In Dubai with Klaus Schwab and Elon Musk is saying world government's bad. | ||
| We don't want centralized civilization. | ||
| That'll destroy innovation and crush society. | ||
| And then I see Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talking about there's been a globalist New World Order coup through the bureaucracy, through the corporations over our life, and Ron Paul and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. | ||
| Somebody's missing. | ||
| Somebody's missing. | ||
| I feel like somebody's missing. | ||
| Is someone missing? | ||
| You turn on the new leader of Italy and the woman sounds like Alex Jones 25 years ago. | ||
| And so there's real satisfaction in that. | ||
| Alex is right in some unfortunate ways, but I think he's also way off. | ||
| Early on in his career, it was very rare to see someone repeating John Birch Society nonsense outside of a very small group who were pretty uniformly understood to be idiots by the mainstream. | ||
| Baruch! | ||
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People were aware of them and had rightly written them off. | |
| Nowadays, there are a ton more people who sound like JBS idiots, and a large part of that is that I think that a lot of the mainstream population has mostly forgot about who the JBS are and where their ideas emanate from. | ||
| People have forgotten it's generational. | ||
| They don't understand that that brand of right-wing politics is designed to enter a fascist state, that the political ideology was created by captains of industry to serve their corporate interests. | ||
| And so, you hear a lot more people... | ||
| People who sound like Alex. | ||
| Because of course you do. | ||
| People have forgotten that this shit's stupid. | ||
| I mean, yeah, it's like saying, oh man, back in 1937, you didn't get a lot of people saying that billionaires were the best people on the planet, you know? | ||
| Somehow in 1925, there were so many people excited about billionaires. | ||
| It's so weird how that changes. | ||
| And sure, people like Bolsonaro and Orban sound like Alex in as much as they're pretty explicit about their bigotries and their desire to crush opposition. | ||
| Bolsonaro is a newer leader, but, like, Orban has been prime minister since 2010, and he previously served at the same position from 1998 to 2002. | ||
| He was Hungary's prime minister 20 years ago, in that time when Alex claims no one was like him. | ||
| Also, last year, Orban gave a speech where he explicitly opposed race mixing. | ||
| So if Alex wants to associate with that, it tells you a whole bunch about where he's coming from. | ||
| And 20 years ago, Putin was in charge in Russia, so Alex should have been thrilled about that, except that 20 years ago, Alex knew that Putin blew up those apartment buildings, And he thought that Putin was a real guy. | ||
| Well... | ||
| I'm sure that Alex would have liked Belarus's dictator, ruler Lukashenko. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| He certainly likes him now, so why not back when he was in his prime? | ||
| So weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So weird. | ||
| The Italian leader Alex is saying sounds like him is Giorgio Malone, who was formerly a member of the Youth Front, which was the young person's version of the Italian social movement, the neo-fascist party established to carry on the legacy of Mussolini. | ||
| Hey, good... | ||
| She's now part of the Brothers of Italy party, which includes a whole lot of those holdover fascists, but she's trying to appeal to more moderate voters by not saying that the party has a bunch of fascists in it. | ||
| I appreciate the willingness to both out and out say all of your fascist policies while at the same time being like, hey, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. | ||
| Well, that's how you appeal to people. | ||
| We're not fascists. | ||
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Yeah, you can't. | |
| And that's all you have to do. | ||
| Because people wouldn't like you then. | ||
| All you have to do is be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| I don't like you using the word fascist about us. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Recently, Maloney has been on a crusade against LGBTQ parents, going so far as, quote, stripping same-sex couples of recognition as parents, also threatening their access to benefits and child care services. | ||
| This stuff follows the same attack pattern that we see in the United States with folks like Alex, where a vulnerable group is targeted and their rights come under question, but the people who want to strip them of those rights pretend that they're doing it to defend the family or the children. | ||
| patriotism may be the last refuge of the scoundrel but pretending you're doing things for the children is the refuge these shitheads use most readily you can even see that with tim's post hoc rationale for his dylan mulvaney shit this is where you go and it's just like ah this Oh, won't somebody think of the children? | ||
| Won't somebody think of the children? | ||
| It's just a load of shit. | ||
| All those unborn babies that we want to starve when they're alive. | ||
| Oh, why won't someone think of the children starving for us? | ||
| Doesn't serve quite the same narrative purposes. | ||
| It doesn't really. | ||
| This is Alex, Tim Pool, Luke Radowski is there from We Are Change, Alex's old buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And some other guy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't remember who the other guy is. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'm telling you, trapdoors. | ||
| We just need trapdoors all the time. | ||
| Everywhere needs trapdoors. | ||
| I think that Tim would keep all these people in the room, which is the problem. | ||
| A trapdoor wouldn't help you. | ||
| I need to control trapdoors and create them with my mind, is what you're describing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to have any effect, that would be what you need to do. | ||
| That would be the smart move. | ||
| So, Tim, he has a Alex Jones, hashtag Alex Jones was right moment. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| It wasn't this time we flew in Austin, but we were flying somewhere. | ||
| And you see all the signs everywhere. | ||
| It's like, get your real ID. | ||
| Get your real ID. | ||
| And I was like, I remember watching Alex Jones a really long time ago, and he was like, people, listen, their real IDs are coming. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
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Not only that, he was arrested at the DMV. | |
| That was an incredible story. | ||
| He went to the DMV, and you're like, I'm not signing up for your real ID totalitarian hellscape. | ||
| That was in 1997. | ||
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| Yeah, you were arrested there because you were like, this is all about centralization of power and force, and they were doing this... | ||
| Don't remind me of that. | ||
| I look so good back then. | ||
| It's like Jabba the Hutt right now. | ||
| So that other voice that was talking is Luke Radowski, just so you can keep track of that. | ||
| Alex didn't get arrested at the DMV. | ||
| He made a huge scene because he didn't want to give a thumbprint, and he was asked to leave. | ||
| He's admitted on his show that he returned later to the DMV to give a print so he could get his license, which he very wisely didn't film for his documentary, since it would kind of make his conviction that he was pretending to have when the crowd was around look like it was fake and it was an act. | ||
| Because it was fake and an act. | ||
| It was. | ||
| The real ID thing isn't really as much of a genius prediction for Alex as Tim is... | ||
| The Real ID Act passed Congress in 2005, and it was an updating of the ID protocols after 9-11. | ||
| The idea was to make IDs much harder to falsify and share databases between states to make investigations run much smoother. | ||
| It was up to the states to make their systems compliant, which they all have, and the only territory that isn't fully on board is American Samoa. | ||
| The reason you see those signs at the airport that says, like, hey, you should get a Real ID is because the deadline for airports to only accept Real ID Here's an issue. | ||
| If it's a huge problem and I don't even know about it... | ||
| It's not that big of a problem. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| And even if it's not, whenever your ID expires... | ||
| Yeah, I'll go get a new ID. | ||
| And it'll automatically be the right ID. | ||
| It's not difficult. | ||
| I would say that most people already have real IDs and they don't even really realize it. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| I get so frustrated when these people get so angry about the real-life version of a fucking Apple terms and conditions agreement that you click every fucking day. | ||
| Yeah, well, but here's the thing. | ||
| There's been a lot of debate surrounding this Real ID stuff, and there's complaints coming from both sides of the aisle. | ||
| The right-wing complaints are usually these dystopian conspiracies about how the man's trying to track and trace everyone, but there are left-wing complaints that are typically more grounded. | ||
| Beast of the mark? | ||
| No, like how the requirements that Real ID puts into place for issuing an ID has an increased burden on asylum seekers and refugees who might not be able to provide all the necessary documents to prove their identity. | ||
| Under the new system. | ||
| So there are issues that need to be ironed out with the way that the system is set up. | ||
| So there are complaints that can be made, but the ones that you hear from people like Alex are just stupid. | ||
| Also, Tim is describing a passport. | ||
| A real ID is not a North American ID. | ||
| It's issued by a U.S. state. | ||
| His passport allows him to travel internationally, not just to Canada or Mexico. | ||
| It appears that Tim may have a passport card that he's describing, which is different. | ||
| It's an alternative to the book version that you can opt for. | ||
| The passport card itself only allows for land and seaport border crossings with Canada, Mexico, Bermuda, and countries in the Caribbean. | ||
| It's a cheaper alternative for folks who make frequent land and sea border crossings, but this doesn't seem right for Tim since he's talking about air travel. | ||
| His passport card doesn't apply to international air travel. | ||
| I don't know what he's talking about, but whatever it is, it's kind of off base. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, we gotta deal with the passport somehow. | ||
| We gotta deal with it. | ||
| I love the passport. | ||
| My favorite thing? | ||
| The most terrifying thing to hold in my entire life. | ||
| Just having the passport and then traveling with the concept of losing the passport in the back of my mind at all times. | ||
| And being stranded. | ||
| There was a period of time where I had lost my ID and so my passport was what I used at bars. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And that was... | ||
| I never actually had the same fear as you. | ||
| I thought it was totally fine. | ||
| Weirded out some doormen, though. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| If you're in a different country, though, and the idea of losing your passport means you're trapped and you have to go to the consulate or something like that... | ||
| Yeah, go to the social security office in your foreign country. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| It's a nightmare to imagine. | ||
| It's a nightmare. | ||
| I would prefer some sort of tattoo on my hand that I could just scan a barcode on. | ||
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Well... | |
| Tim's going to have a problem with that. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| I already have a tattoo on my hand, though, so it doesn't really bother me that much. | ||
| So a fair amount of conversation ends up happening surrounding Bitcoin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What about it? | ||
| Might be a Trojan horse. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Yeah, Tim is a little bit wary of Bitcoin. | ||
| And then Alex tells a story about Max Keiser. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If I was a globalist cabal and I wanted to create a one-world currency or a new form of currency that everyone in the world would use, the first group I'd have to convince to use it... | ||
| Are the right-wing conspiracy people? | ||
| Are the anti-war leftist people? | ||
| The anti-establishment people? | ||
| Get them to think this is their path towards freedom. | ||
| And I'm not saying that Max Keiser is some secret agent in the New World Order, but he used to be a top stockbroker. | ||
| You know, knows the Soros is all them. | ||
| And he's a friend of mine. | ||
| I like him. | ||
| But in 2010... | ||
| Was it 2009? | ||
| We were in... | ||
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Watford, England. | |
| Watford, England. | ||
| I think you were there, too. | ||
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I was there, too, yeah, during the Bilderberg meeting. | |
| And he comes into the hotel one morning. | ||
| We're not at the Bilderberg Hotel. | ||
| It shut down our hotel. | ||
| And he goes, listen, who's your IT guy? | ||
| And I go, well, I brought a guy that's a driver, and I brought Rob Dews, a camera guy, and I brought Leanne McAdoo. | ||
| I barely know how to do stuff on the Internet, but I don't know what a wallet is. | ||
| He goes, I've got a digital currency wallet. | ||
| It's Bitcoin. | ||
| It's going to be the future. | ||
| I'm going to give you... | ||
| No, he says this is just true stories. | ||
| I know, yeah. | ||
| He goes... | ||
| I want to give you 10,000 of these. | ||
| He goes, I want you to give away half of them. | ||
| Keep the rest for yourself. | ||
| Believe me it's the most important thing you're ever going to do in your life. | ||
| And he was already going to be interviewed by that day. | ||
| He got so mad, he refused to do an interview with me when I didn't take the time and couldn't figure it out. | ||
| He literally never got mad at me the many times I've been with him. | ||
| He literally was like, F this, you're an idiot, and basically stormed off. | ||
| Now, a couple days later, he was being interviewed by some guy that did interviews in a taxi cab. | ||
| He said, come over, I'll do the interview now, and we did it. | ||
| But he literally turned red and blew up, because he should have kicked my ass. | ||
| He should have said, you're taking this, you son of a bitch. | ||
| I wish you would have punched me in the nose and said, you know, I can, they live, put the damn glasses on. | ||
| Take my Bitcoin! | ||
| At its peak, I think it was worth like $600 million or something. | ||
| $60,000 per coin. | ||
| At its peak. | ||
| But let's just do some quick... | ||
| And this was real, because he was handing out everywhere. | ||
| And I think he's central in the whole deal. | ||
| Like, who gave him... | ||
| The word is he's got billions. | ||
| So I guess Max Keiser is part of a grand conspiracy and at the center of Bitcoin. | ||
| But also, I mean, Alex, even if you had $600 million, you still owe $900 million. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's crazy to think about this fantasy of these Bitcoin that he could have had and sold at its peak, and it's like, well, you're still deep underwater. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man, the fantasy of $600 million being One third of your way out of debt. | ||
| That's big. | ||
| I mean, honestly, that is almost as impressive as having a billion dollars as losing it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, in a sense. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Let me clarify. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think losing it in one fell swoop. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because you could lose a billion dollars over the course of a number of bad decisions. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But in one kabong. | ||
| One go. | ||
| It's very, very impressive. | ||
| It's tough to beat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I think the story about Max Keiser is... | ||
| Possibly true. | ||
| It seems fairly true. | ||
| 10,000 seems high, but then again, back in 2009, that was like right when Bitcoin launched, and they were worth almost nothing. | ||
| No, it was.003 cents or something. | ||
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| No, if you had 10,000 of them, it was like 3 cents. | ||
| But if it was a year in, it was over pennies. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But I mean, yeah, that's billions of dollars. | ||
| No, that's millions of dollars, billions of dollars right now. | ||
| Yeah, no, once it was at its peak, for sure. | ||
| But yeah, yeah, back then, I could see, like, you could probably have 10,000 of them, and it's maybe like... | ||
| 20 bucks or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| I don't think Alex would have sat on him. | ||
| No. | ||
| For 2009 to like when it was at its peak? | ||
| Like a couple years back? | ||
| No, it was at its peak six or eight months ago. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, so it reached its peak a while back, and then... | ||
| So here's what happened, all right? | ||
| I'm looking it up. | ||
| It reached its peak a while back, and then Peter Thiel and his group looked into FTX, quote-unquote, and then revealed that FTX was a complete bullshit scam, right? | ||
| It was all a lie. | ||
| And then Bitcoin tanked, along with all the other crypto coins. | ||
| I'm looking at a peak of... | ||
| What's this? | ||
| November 2021. | ||
| Yeah, well, something like that. | ||
| That's not a couple months ago. | ||
| When was FTX? | ||
| When did the FTX then? | ||
| I think that was definitely more recent than 2021. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, that's when it collapsed from its all-time high. | ||
| You know, and it was sticking around up in the 50s or whatever around there. | ||
| And then it collapsed down to less than 20 for a while? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now it's back up over 30? | ||
| In late 2022, it was down in the teens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, yeah, now we have it around 30 in April. | ||
| And then the Silicon Valley bank thing collapsed, and that's when Bitcoin started going up again because people were like, ah, banks are the ones that are the scams. | ||
| It's not Bitcoin. | ||
| It's the banks. | ||
| I don't think that it hit its peak around a couple months ago or FTX time. | ||
| I mean, I'm saying that around FTX time, it was way up over, like, 40 or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| I'm looking at my timeline here. | ||
| No, because this is in November 2022, when there's articles about the FTX collapse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that was when it was in the teens. | ||
| That was when it was at its lowest. | ||
| It was not into the teens until FTX collapsed. | ||
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| This is not a good use of our time. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Maybe it's a Trojan horse. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| So they get on to talking about the social credit score. | ||
| Oh, it's about time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Tim has some interesting ideas about how this will play out. | ||
| And by interesting ideas, I am not being serious. | ||
| I don't think the social credit score is going to be the way people described it, where it's like you go to 7-Eleven with your credit card and you're like, let me get two steak and cheese taquitos and a pack of Marlboro Reds. | ||
| And they go, okay, swipe your card. | ||
| And you swipe and it goes, I'm sorry, your social credit score, your carbon footprint. | ||
| You know what's going to happen? | ||
| Is that if your social credit score is bad, you're going to go to the grocery store and you get milk, bread, and eggs and it's going to be $150. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And they're not going to tell you. | ||
| It's just going to be like... | ||
| Milk. | ||
| By the way, have you seen in China, they already run TV ads explaining where the guy goes up to get an airline ticket with his wife and child, and he goes, no, no, no. | ||
| You are bad. | ||
| And then it goes down the line trying to go to a sports game, trying to get on a bus, trying to get a hotel. | ||
| High-speed internet school for children as well. | ||
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That's another big one. | |
| The reason I don't think it'll be like that is that it's too overt and can lead to unrest. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So if you have a bad credit score, let's say Luke's got a good social credit score and you've got a bad social credit score. | ||
| You both grab the same bottle of Coke from the fridge. | ||
| For Luke, with a good credit score, it's $3. | ||
| For you, it's $6. | ||
| And what that does is it creates economic pressure where people who are bad struggle and have a harder time gaining influence. | ||
| This makes it subtle. | ||
| You're totally right. | ||
| Just like YouTube demonetizes you, it just makes you submit. | ||
| Getting demonetized on YouTube isn't a social credit score. | ||
| That's a reflection that your content is not in line with what YouTube advertisers want to attach their ads to. | ||
| That's just the free market in action, or at least that's how Alex and Tim should see it. | ||
| YouTube is too big of a company to handle ads being bought individually according to channels, so they sell advertising time as a big chunk. | ||
| The advertisers trust that YouTube isn't going to show their ad on a video that's denying the Holocaust, for instance, and thereby taking payments that the company made to YouTube and funneling it. | ||
| to a Holocaust denier in the form of ad revenue. | ||
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That's not a social credit score, although perhaps it's a consequence, and that's basically what these shitheads mean when they say social credit score. | |
| I'm going to leave China kind of alone because there's a murky territory with the idea of their social credit system. | ||
| There is some stuff that goes on there. | ||
| The reason I don't want to get too deep into it is because in China there's a government version and then there are corporate private versions of social credit scores and they're often just rolled into one which is said to be run by the government. | ||
| People like Alex conflate a ton of this stuff. | ||
| The government version is meant to consolidate credit profiles for individuals to make dealing with credit scores and lending more efficient, whereas many of the private versions involve giving people social scores based on charges. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| Your choices give you a score, and then they can choose to do business with you or not. | ||
| So, I mean, on some level, that is already there in terms of companies making it a choice to implement that. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And in the form that it exists in terms of Uber and Lyft... | ||
| I mean, maybe there's an abuse here or there of it, but for the most part, it's about protecting the person who's allowing you into their car to be driven around. | ||
| It's protecting the worker, and I think there's something fine about that. | ||
| Now, the government version in China also has like, you know, if you owe the government money or things like that, they can... | ||
| Make it so it's more difficult for you to get a loan and stuff. | ||
| Right, until you pay them back their money. | ||
| And there are instances where people have oppressive fines by the government based on social things that they do, like criticisms of the government. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's a purely non-socially related thing in some senses, but the way that this is discussed by people like Alex and Tim is just nonsensical and it goes nowhere. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| As for Tim's fantasy about coke costing double if you're a bad boy, that's pretty stupid. | ||
| It would never work with two individuals paying different amounts for the same thing at the same place. | ||
| And it's not, like, he's saying that it would be like, you couldn't do one version because it's too overt, but this would be subtle somehow? | ||
| I mean, imagine you had a friend who was, in Tim Pool's mind, a complete asshole, right? | ||
| And you were going, hey, let's go down to the shop. | ||
| I gotta get some stuff. | ||
| And you and your friend go, and you get it for $3, and your friend is asked to pay $6, your friend would naturally be like, why am I being asked to pay $6? | ||
| And they'd say, well, it's because of the social credit score. | ||
| And all of a sudden, this subtlety that Tim Pool is so excited about becomes extremely over. | ||
| You know, one of the primary features at stores is labeled prices. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| How would it say $3 for good people? | ||
| $6 if you're an ass. | ||
| Not very overt. | ||
| Or now we live in a world where you don't know what anything's going to cost when you go somewhere? | ||
| Seems stupid. | ||
| So that doesn't make sense if it's the same product at the same place to different people. | ||
| Except for medications, I guess. | ||
| Depending on people's insurance coverage, which could arguably be seen as a social credit score. | ||
| But that argument's a little thin and I don't want to get lost in the weeds. | ||
| In reality, this dynamic already kind of exists, but it exists in food deserts. | ||
| primarily affecting poorer communities. | ||
| There are no grocery stores nearby, and the places that do sell food have less unprocessed food and typically higher prices. | ||
| A 2021 report by the Social Policy Lab cited figures that milk prices tend to be 5% higher in food deserts and things like cereal, $25. | ||
| God, it costs so much to be broke. | ||
| I wonder if Tim or Alex have spent any time screaming about the unequal access to food in food deserts. | ||
| I imagine not. | ||
| Probably, but there are these fun fantasies about coke costing double if the government doesn't like you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So that's more fun to talk about, though. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is so easy to discuss and enjoy the discussion of the oncoming oppression that you will never experience. | ||
| Your poorly written Black Mirror episode. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's way more fun than being like, maybe we should do something for the people that are being oppressed. | ||
| Yeah, and recognizing that, like, oh, you know, there are more grocery stores being made, but they're in places where there already are grocery stores. | ||
| Maybe we should affect some change in the distribution of the... | ||
| Yeah, they're not going to go there. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| But Alex has something dumb to say. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| How frustrating is it when you're surfing the internet and a pre-roll ad plays on some weird platform, like a local news station, you can't find the ad again, okay? | ||
| So about a month ago, I'm up at night, and I just click on something, and it runs local Texas ads for Randall's grocery stores. | ||
| And I meant to go on their site and get this and find it, but I never did it. | ||
| But I saw it, and it's a real 30-second ad. | ||
| And they said... | ||
| Make good choices on what you eat and what you do, and to help the environment and other social causes. | ||
| Use the Randall's app and get big discounts for purchasing things that are good. | ||
| I mean, there was literally a social credit score ad. | ||
| What you just said, if you buy the right things and you're a good person, we're going to give you discounts. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Do these guys really not understand that what they're describing has nothing to do with a government social credit score? | ||
| That's what they're supposed to be fear-mongering about, not local grocery chains deciding to run a loyalty program that gives discounts. | ||
| I mean, if Randall's was like, hey, here's our... | ||
| Coupon for 15% off, type in social credit score 15. Maybe! | ||
| But even then, that's absurd! | ||
| Yeah, like, Alex is the type of guy who's gonna fuck around and say those Subway stamp cards were a social credit score. | ||
| Oh, every 11th sub is free, you social credit score motherfuckers! | ||
| Well, I can only get the stamps if I eat fresh! | ||
| I'll never eat fresh! | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Like, they should be fine with this. | ||
| It's a company choosing to do it. | ||
| Do Alex and Tim want the government to outlaw businesses being able to offer discounts to people who buy healthy food? | ||
| This is confusing. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| So Randall's has a program called Randall's for You, which is just a customer loyalty program. | ||
| They give you a free item each month, they give you a birthday treat, and it tracks your purchases so you can get deals on the things that you buy the most. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You get a point for each dollar you spend, and then you get a reward for each 100 points. | ||
| These rewards pile up and three of them can be exchanged for $4 off your next total. | ||
| Five rewards gets you $7 off and so on. | ||
| No involvement of, like, social credit score there. | ||
| Just basic-ass loyalty program. | ||
| Simple, cases, cut-out-the-cardboard coupon, you'll get yourself a goddamn free pizza. | ||
| Randall's also has a health app. | ||
| It's called Sincerely Health and it's a food and exercise type tracker. | ||
| You know, you can get your steps in and what have you. | ||
| You can use that app and earn points, which do translate to rewards, but you don't get them from buying healthy foods or being involved in... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You get points by setting a goal and achieving it, like hitting your steps for the day and that kind of thing. | ||
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Right. | |
| You get points and then those can be redeemed for coupons. | ||
| This also is not a social credit score, and obviously I can't prove it, but I would suspect that all of the coupons you can earn on there are things that you could find on your own if you put a little bit of work into it. | ||
| I've seen an episode of Extreme Couponing. | ||
| I'm sure these people could get to the bottom of it. | ||
| You better believe it. | ||
| This is just a fun way to try and gamify health and encourage good habits. | ||
| I don't understand what the fuck... | ||
| I mean, that's probably a good program for them. | ||
| I mean, most people want to behave in a more healthy manner, and there are few options of motivation that aren't like, oh, this also sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So at least maybe getting 5% off on a fucking apple is good. | ||
| Now hear me out on this. | ||
| What do you got? | ||
| I was thinking of a conspiracy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was thinking of a way that I can make this a conspiracy. | ||
| I want to hear it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Healthy food is more expensive than junk food. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So these people have an incentive to get you to want to buy healthy food because then the grocery store makes more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they have an app that encourages healthiness because they know they're going to make a couple extra bucks if they can sucker you into being healthy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was the best I could do in terms of a conspiracy. | ||
| It's not good, but it's better than this bullshit. | ||
| I guess my question is, do they sell bed light? | ||
| That's the only real question I have for anybody now. | ||
| I didn't look it up. | ||
| Look, it's in or out time. | ||
| One or the other. | ||
| Either you're pro or con Bud Light. | ||
| It's big boy pants time. | ||
| Yeah, it's big boy pants time. | ||
| I think I saw that they do sell that anti-woke beer. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So Alex got debanked or something. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he talks about that a little bit here. | ||
| And I also don't think it got debanked. | ||
| And other great AI indexes that these groups have that then create the number. | ||
| And I learned about it. | ||
| It was given secret documents three years ago by literally a banker shaking. | ||
| And I showed it to a law firm in D.C. And they actually contacted them and said, take this off. | ||
| And they said, screw you. | ||
| Go ahead and sue us. | ||
| And this company is not really a company based in Boston. | ||
| It's the CIA. | ||
| And what are they doing? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Like, what is it? | ||
| Well, I don't even want to say the name because my lawyers asked me not to, but we confirmed the documents. | ||
| But I suddenly got debanked everywhere. | ||
| And I had, like, perfect credit. | ||
| Never had loans. | ||
| Had, like, 0.2% chargebacks. | ||
| You know, we ran stuff really good at InfoWare Store. | ||
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Did you? | |
| And had been there for, you know, 20 years before that at the time. | ||
| So finally, we were going out trying to get other banks, and this big bank actually came and met with me because the guy's a listener, and he said, listen, they put watermarks on this. | ||
| Every one we get sent is coded to us. | ||
| He goes, I can't give this to you. | ||
| You can only write down these names. | ||
| But it showed a graph and all these scores. | ||
| And it was printed out. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It was printed out like a big printer, like long. | ||
| He laid it on the table. | ||
| He wouldn't let me take photos of it. | ||
| But he said, here's the group out of Boston. | ||
| They put the report in that goes into all these other databases. | ||
| Here you were previously with a score of 98 point whatever, which is, by the way, he says almost no one has that. | ||
| That's why it's such a low credit card rate, like a 1.5%. | ||
| It's like a good rating. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Almost like platinum. | ||
| But it said one rating by this group out of Massachusetts, and it went... | ||
| It's like a gauge. | ||
| 98% to 14% in the red for one designation, hate. | ||
| And that one designation in the code, and then it shows all these other codes that didn't... | ||
| It was a printout of a computer interface. | ||
| So I wasn't able to click on all the data. | ||
| Dashboard. | ||
| But, I mean, this is what's going on with what he just said. | ||
| Man, that's so weird. | ||
| Alex's credit score shot up like three years ago. | ||
| Was that maybe around the time that the Sandy Hook cases were going to court and it became super apparent that he was going to lose those cases? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was getting sanctioned all over the place. | ||
| I wonder if that had any connection. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| It was probably some weird Boston CIA connection that a mysterious banker listener informed Alex about. | ||
| See, what you're missing is the context, alright? | ||
| He can't say the name because they're notoriously litigious. | ||
| And it is the CIA, but it's the Carfax Intelligence Agency. | ||
| And he has really been giving out shit cars, left and right. | ||
| He's just terrible. | ||
| So there were many instances in that clip. | ||
| And if you want to go back and listen for this, Alex refuses to give specifics, or he goes out of his way to explain why he can't prove any of his claims. | ||
| This is a red flag. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Couldn't name the company. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Lawyers. | ||
| Maybe he shouldn't. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| As we know, he listens to lawyers' advice all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unfortunately, in his insistence on giving explanations for his lack of evidence, Alex ends up contradicting himself in his own story. | ||
| He claims that this banker showed him a document which he was not allowed to take or even make photographs of, but earlier in the story, he claimed that he took these secret documents to his lawyer who contacted the company and they said they weren't going to change the designation. | ||
| He's like, come sue us. | ||
| Yeah, the D.C. law firm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, he said that he took the documents to them. | ||
| So did he? | ||
| Did he not? | ||
| None of this happened. | ||
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No. | |
| In 2019, there was a big to-do about Chase Bank closing the accounts of proud boys like Enrique Tarrio. | ||
| It was all the rage to claim that you were facing debanking oppression as it signaled that the establishment was really out to get you. | ||
| However, after Michelle Malkin tweeted out an article about Tarrio's account, Chase Bank actually responded and said, quote, Hi, Michelle. | ||
| This article is inaccurate. | ||
| We did not close his personal account. | ||
| We do not close accounts based on political affiliation. | ||
| If I had to guess what was going on, this was an account that was the Proud Boys account, which happened to have Tario's name on it, which the bank decided violated their standards. | ||
| Banks should not be moral arbiters, but at the same time, they should be able to refuse to associate with groups that are clearly raising money to fund hate and violence. | ||
| Yeah, I think if everybody was like, why is Al-Qaeda still banking with Chase? | ||
| Look, we don't make moral judgments. | ||
| Hey, Matt, what are you, political leanings? | ||
| Are we going to do that now? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| And we're back. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| In the area of the right wing that Alex exists in, something like having a bank blacklist you is a badge of honor. | ||
| So ever since this mess with the Proud Boys, he's been claiming that he was involved too, but he's never provided any evidence of this, and if the stuff that you're seeing in the bankruptcy case tells you anything, he has no problem opening a bunch of bank accounts. | ||
| I don't take anything Alex is saying here seriously, but banks should be careful when they engage in closing of accounts to make sure that they're not doing it for inappropriate reasons, and I think that there's oversight as far as that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, it's a fun story, though, this banker shaking with the document. | ||
| Yeah, that is nice. | ||
| I do like a scared banker. | ||
| I mean, I'm confused as to why the banker's deep-throating while still holding these papers that he's shaking. | ||
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Careful with how you phrase that. | |
| Don't take a picture of this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, then just take a picture now. | ||
| Like, quick! | ||
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Ha-ha! | |
| Snapped it! | ||
| Your whole plane is gone! | ||
| Hey, dick. | ||
| I'm taking them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm taking these documents. | ||
| I'm bigger than you, and you're just a banker. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm drunk. | ||
| I have drunk strength. | ||
| These are the most important documents to my finances. | ||
| They are very important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to take this because it unveils a massive conspiracy of CIA rigging of bank accounts. | ||
| It's his responsibility as Alex Jones to wrestle those documents away and then be willing to accept the consequences for it. | ||
| And banker, I'll try to protect you as best I can, but if you're collateral damage for this, I'm sorry. | ||
| Like, I care anyways. | ||
| You're a fucking banker. | ||
| Like, why would Alex Jones' sovereign citizen adjacent dude be like, I gotta protect this banker? | ||
| Well, it means what he should do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip, Tim has an analogy. | ||
| And here's one of the things that I noticed on listening to this show. | ||
| I've not listened to a lot of Tim Pool, let's say. | ||
| I've dipped in the pool a little bit. | ||
| But he's not good with thinking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Some of the things he says don't make a whole lot of sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I kind of somewhat get the points he's trying to make, but then I also think he gets lost in some of the weeds of metaphor and analogy. | ||
| All right, so here's what I'm seeing, all right? | ||
| I'm seeing that you dipped your toe into the shallow end of the pool, right? | ||
| But because you were only on that part, that's what you didn't find out until just now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The whole pool is shallow. | ||
| There's not a lot of water here. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And people need to know, you're the target. | ||
| It's not Alex Jones, it's not Tim Pool, no. | ||
| All of us are the target of this evermind takeover. | ||
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We're just standing in the way. | |
| We're just the first ones to get hit. | ||
| This is the way I explain it, Alex. | ||
| Do you have any chickens, by chance? | ||
| No, but I've heard your chicken analogy, and I've seen your chickens. | ||
| So, well, which chicken analogy? | ||
| The one with the guns? | ||
| Because there's a couple I use, and one is, imagine you're trying to go pick up the eggs from your chickens, and one day you walk in and the roosters are armed, and they don't let you take those eggs. | ||
| You're going to be rightly pissed off and say, we need to figure out how to get these guns away from these roosters. | ||
| Now, obviously, roosters don't have guns. | ||
| But what they do is, what they do have is the spurs. | ||
| Roosters, as they get older, they grow large keratin spikes on their legs that they can stab you with. | ||
| And so what do people do? | ||
| They will incapacitate the rooster and then take pliers and snap the spurs off their legs, which is very painful and brutal. | ||
| I won't do it to my roosters. | ||
| And that way they can't spur you when you're going in to collect eggs. | ||
| Well, you get spurred, you might do it. | ||
| I've been around chickens, families at farms. | ||
| I've not been hit by one, but yeah, sometimes a rooster that's been nice to you for years will be sitting on a fence post and just hits you in the face with a spur. | ||
| And then he's going in the pot. | ||
| I take a different view. | ||
| I mean, honestly, I've seen a lot of people kill roosters because they get too aggressive. | ||
| But, like, my thing is, you know, the roosters can do their business. | ||
| We have an easy way to collect the eggs. | ||
| I'm not worried about it. | ||
| So if we got a good rooster who's protecting the hens, like, I'm going to let them do their business. | ||
| But back to the analogy, we as the American people are one of the only countries on the planet that have a constitutionally protected right to defend ourselves from... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Enemies foreign and domestic. | ||
| Criminals to tyranny. | ||
| So I don't really get this analogy. | ||
| I'm confused. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| He started off with the baseline, we're the chickens. | ||
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Right. | |
| So we know that. | ||
| We have that bit of the cipher. | ||
| I don't feel like that's where we ended up. | ||
| No. | ||
| We are not the chickens in this analogy at the end. | ||
| We took too many trips through literal chicken stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And where's the literal? | ||
| Where's the figurative? | ||
| It's very messy. | ||
| Okay, so imagine... | ||
| We're chickens. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And somehow there's another person we do not know in the metaphor. | ||
| The person who's coming to get the eggs I think is the government. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or maybe a thief. | ||
| Could be anything. | ||
| But it's bad. | ||
| It's a robber. | ||
| It's the enemy foreign and domestic. | ||
| Your eggs are your things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so this other force is coming in. | ||
| To take the things. | ||
| Chickens don't have guns, but they have spurs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the spur is the Second Amendment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Your ability to defend yourself against these people who are coming to take your eggs. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I mean, I guess he's happy that we have guns. | ||
| And that's why he allows his chickens to have spurs still? | ||
| I don't understand why we got literal there, because his analogy seemed to be like, oh, see, this is the thing that people don't have. | ||
| But then he was like, ah, but actually all roosters are armed. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I mean, maybe in this metaphor, what he's actually saying is that we need to get back to the basics and learn how to fight with our nails, our teeth. | ||
| We need to get into it, because why would you want a rooster with a gun? | ||
| They don't know how to... | ||
| What if the safety's still on? | ||
| The rooster doesn't have the capability to turn the safety off? | ||
| No! | ||
| That's what he's teaching us, is we need to be more like the rooster. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| I mean, look, I think there's something to this, and joke's on him, because I've been growing a spur for the last five years, and I will meet him on the field of battle. | ||
| So, like, also, I was thinking about this, and, like, the eggs that are taken aren't fertilized usually, and so they aren't gonna become chicks at all. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're useless to the chicken itself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And even if you do take it away, the hen's gonna produce another egg tomorrow. | ||
| And it's not like the chicken's gonna eat the egg. | ||
| So if we're the chicken, and we're conscious of our situation, we shouldn't care if someone's coming to take the egg. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's no reason to fight them. | ||
| It's meaningless to me. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Also, not for nothing, Tim is literally the person coming to take the eggs in the case of the real chickens. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's taking the moral high ground by saying he's not de-spurring them, but then he claims that he's not worried about it because he's found a safe way to collect the eggs. | ||
| So, allegorically, he would be like the government or a criminal who's found a way to steal our stuff without even needing to worry about the gun or spurs, like he's doing it through hacking or something. | ||
| I don't understand why you would create an analogy. | ||
| To a real-life circumstance wherein you are the embodiment of the thing that you are describing as analogous to evil. | ||
| Yeah, it is clunky. | ||
| It's almost like a poorly constructed chicken coop that falls over and breaks the eggs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's bad. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| It's not the only poorly made metaphor that I've heard. | ||
| You can write. | ||
| You can read, and you can write, and you can steal better analogies from people, from books that other people haven't read, and you'll look smart. | ||
| He's proud of this one, though, and he's apparently pretty proud of the fact that he has chickens. | ||
| He's proud of them to the point where apparently he has enough chicken analogies that we have to quibble over which one we are going to get into. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| So, I told you there was that third guy, or fourth guy there, because there's Luke Radowski, Tim Pool, Alex, and this other guy. | ||
| Doctor number four. | ||
| Yeah, doctor number four makes an interesting... | ||
| I think this is stupid. | ||
| Walking around Austin, I love this place. | ||
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It's great. | |
| I'm having great food, a great time. | ||
| But I noticed yesterday, I walked around for hours with my wife, we saw no kids. | ||
| It was like there's a lot of people who are just not having kids. | ||
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Maybe they all had babysitters, I don't know. | |
| But I just feel like there's a lot of people I know in my life who are my age older, they're just not having kids, they're not even interested. | ||
| And that's why my wife wants to move to one of the nice towns outside Austin. | ||
| Because you go there, there's little kids, there's happy people. | ||
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It's bizarre. | |
| But yeah, in Austin, the ratio of children is not very high. | ||
| And you talk about brainwashing. | ||
| They brainwash kids in the public schools. | ||
| Here is bad as San Francisco. | ||
| Isn't childhood relations pretty popular in Austin? | ||
| Oh, it's a cult. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So in reality, Austin is ranked number eight in terms of large U.S. cities in terms of percentage of households that include children under 18. 29.3% of Austinites have children, Austinite households, excuse me, and three other Texas cities are in the top ten on that chart. | ||
| I'm not sure what their definition of large cities is because Fresno, California is number one on that list and I don't consider that a metropolis. | ||
| Partially because it's where my dad is from and I think that town sucks. | ||
| Anyway, there's a feeling that these guys have that these lefty weirdos in Austin aren't having kids and maybe they'll walk around downtown and not see many kids and then they'll conclude that that's evidence of the conclusion that they've already come to. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| If I were visiting a city... | ||
| During what amounts to a large-scale assault of right-wing figures peeing a bunch of pieces of shit showing up. | ||
| I don't actually think it's that big of a festival. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like South by Southwest. | ||
| I won't count too hard on that. | ||
| But anyways, the point is, he is not in situations where he's going to be spending time around scenarios where they're family. | ||
| He probably didn't go down to like a park or something. | ||
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Yeah, he didn't go down. | |
| Go to a park and see all the kids playing there. | ||
| Look, man, it was like 2 a.m. | ||
| I was out on 6th Street. | ||
| Yes, exactly! | ||
| I didn't see any kids. | ||
| I didn't see any fucking kids. | ||
| I saw a horse. | ||
| There was a cop on a horse. | ||
| Ah, there shouldn't be a cop on a horse. | ||
| Cop on a horse at 2 a.m.? | ||
| Get that horse to bed. | ||
| I found it delightful when I was there and I saw a cop on a horse plopping down the street. | ||
| Because he was a chill horse and he was a chill cop. | ||
| It was all right. | ||
| No cops on horses. | ||
| Maybe a little bit overly allowing of people to pet the horse. | ||
| I was like, I was worried these drunk people, someone's going to swing on that horse. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Didn't happen, thankfully. | ||
| So, Alex mentions there's that brainwashing going on at schools. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And Tim gets into that a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not going to get into personal family stuff, people I know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But, you know, you think, okay, you know, my... | ||
| Twelve-year-old wants to go to public school. | ||
| They've been in private school. | ||
| They want to go. | ||
| Their friends go there. | ||
| And they literally come home with stuff that's worse than you see on the news. | ||
| We've had a couple people on the show have told us this, that their kid went to a school, which they thought was a good school. | ||
| Twelve-year-old girl comes home and says that they're pansexual or something like that. | ||
| That's exactly what goes on. | ||
| And then the mom has to be like, do you know what that means? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what they told me I was. | ||
| And they've already pre-programmed, and when you say, no, you're not, they go, oh, they told me you'd oppress me. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They said that if I told my parents, my parents would tell me it was wrong. | ||
| So now, your kids, the seeds are being planted. | ||
| Of rebellion. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| I think that if a teacher is telling a student unprovoked that they're pansexual and then telling them that if they tell their parents that tell them that they're wrong, that's inappropriate. | ||
| I don't think that's going on. | ||
| And in the off chance that there is an instance of this kind of behavior, I think that specific teacher should be asked some serious questions in an individual disciplinary setting. | ||
| Yeah, we're all good with that. | ||
| However, Tim is telling a story of something that someone said happened and probably didn't. | ||
| Tim and his ilk aren't fighting against teachers declaring their students to be pansexual out of nowhere, but that's a sensible fight to have, which is why Tim wants you to think that that's what he's against. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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In the real world, there are students who feel more safe at school than they do at home, and they might confide in a teacher about something that they're struggling with, possibly around sexuality or gender. | |
| But I had a teacher in high school... | ||
| that was critically important in terms of being able to tell him things and talk through stuff in a way that I couldn't with other adults. | ||
| It wasn't weird or manipulative or abusive. | ||
| It was critical to me navigating those years. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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That is what Tim and Alex are trying to attack. | |
| They pushed some 100%. | ||
| They're doing this as an attempt to stigmatize and ultimately eliminate LGBTQ identities from... | ||
| public life, and they're pretending that it's being done in the name of defending the children. | ||
| It's not, but that's how Tim and Alex need to present it so they can... | ||
| and sleep at night and not be seen as the monstrous shitheads that they actually are. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I mean, I don't even know. | ||
| I fear. | ||
| I fear for every child. | ||
| I do, because it's just like, these... | ||
| These people have kids. | ||
| They have kids who will go to schools and learn about themselves and will live in fear of sharing that information with their parents. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, on some level... | ||
| I mean, I did. | ||
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I lived there. | |
| On some level, this is like a radical escalation of the same dynamic that was like you go to college and your kid comes back leftist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Liberal. | ||
| You know, it's like, yeah, they go and they... | ||
| Learn who they are. | ||
| They individuate. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| Yes, that can be difficult, especially when you consider your child an extension of yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you take it personally that they make changes. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I don't even know. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I mean, obviously, I'm one of the people that he is describing accurately who has no interest in kids, so I don't have any complaints. | ||
| Well, stay out, Austin. | ||
| A lot of people have kids there. | ||
| A lot of people. | ||
| Eight highest. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, look. | ||
| A lot of this episode's incoherent. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| I've seen that play out. | ||
| It jumps around to a number of issues. | ||
| There's a fair amount of talk about AI. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Chat GPT. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Deepfakes. | ||
| What about them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Before we get into any of that, there's a bit of talk about the Mark of the Beast. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotta have the Mark of the Beast. | ||
| And this might have been a point where I think I saw a different part of Tim that I think he might be more of a shithead than even I realized. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But this actually... | ||
| Brings me into, I guess, the more metaphysical and the crazier side of these things is the demonic, is the allusions to, like, revelation and things like that. | ||
| We've had a ton of people messaging us saying, like, I mentioned Mark of the Beast earlier. | ||
| They want you to have a social credit score or a central bank digital currency. | ||
| Everyone's trying to figure out what the Mark of the Beast is. | ||
| This thing that you have to have on your hand or forehead or whatever that is required if you want to buy or sell or trade. | ||
| Aramaic, which was translated into the Greek and then into the English King James Version. | ||
| If you look at it, it describes a world government system, ten separate kingdoms, but three super regions. | ||
| And then it says that the beast can be seen by everyone on Earth at the same time. | ||
| Three super regions? | ||
| Everywhere and in the temples and in the markets. | ||
| It's 1984. | ||
| It's a 30-foot image of the beast talking to you. | ||
| So it's like a hologram. | ||
| I mean, how are they coming up with this? | ||
| This is a great science fiction writer. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And then I guess they adopt it to dominate and control, maybe. | ||
| It's a self-filling prophecy. | ||
| Or it's a revelation from God, aliens, warning us about something else. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| Big difference between the two. | ||
| Also, those aren't the only options. | ||
| And the fact that you worship the beast and give power unto it, the social credit score, you've got to agree. | ||
| You've got to serve. | ||
| You've got to do social credit scores. | ||
| You've got to go out and do all this work to be part of this system. | ||
| And then if you do, it gives you wonders. | ||
| It cures diseases. | ||
| It makes you live longer. | ||
| Because they've got all this real stuff they've been suppressing. | ||
| And so imagine, you're like, I don't want my kid to die. | ||
| But this is satanic. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| Hell, Satan, okay. | ||
| I mean, my daughter's dying of this or my son's dying of that. | ||
| And so it's going to be really hard to not just, it's not just you're not going to get food. | ||
| That's where people live off in the, you know, Christian ghettos of the future, according to their own models. | ||
| The Rockefeller Foundation put out, like 12 years ago, Plandopolis videos for kids in the UK. | ||
| And it describes... | ||
| The government tells you what you're going to be. | ||
| Nobody's allowed to have cars. | ||
| You lived in a locked-down city. | ||
| You're in a coffin apartment, but it's great. | ||
| But there's that freedom ghetto that the lady's brother lives in where they don't get medicine or anything, but they think they're free. | ||
| And so they're already pre-programming this. | ||
| So whether Revelation is real or not, they've decided to go with it and are using it as the model. | ||
| Yeah, this is why a lot of people believe that there's demonic possession because a lot of different organizations come and go, whether it's the Club of Rome, Whether it's Agenda 21, UN 2030, or the Great Reset, throughout many centuries and decades, we see these same ideas. | ||
| We see very similar individuals try to do the same thing. | ||
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Centralize power. | |
| Have a new world order. | ||
| Yeah, they would obviously constantly try to have a new world order. | ||
| You can't have... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Not a lot of people are like, let's stay with the current. | ||
| I mean, the world order as it stands is pretty terrible. | ||
| So I just kept thinking as I'm listening to this, like, I find it almost inconceivable that a, like, a well-intentioned thinking person could be sitting across from Alex, listening to this shit, and be like, man, you're onto something. | ||
| That's why people think about demonic possession. | ||
| Yeah, no, and then that's what Luke Radowski says, and I realize, like, Yeah. | ||
| Tim has Luke as a co-host. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I get it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| He's fucking stupid. | ||
| I do appreciate that if I understand correctly, Alex's problem with the Mark of the Beast and the social credit score is going to be it's going to create a society where you have to do all this work in order to get... | ||
| Basic human conveniences. | ||
| I can't imagine this. | ||
| And then if you continue to do work, and if you work extra hard, then you'll get things like medicine, and you'll get other things along those lines. | ||
| And it's just all of this work for the government and for large corporations. | ||
| Alex gives the appearance of a person who's never had a job. | ||
| Yeah, that's called capitalism. | ||
| You just described capitalism. | ||
| The mark of the capitalist beast. | ||
| Also, if you're scared... | ||
| Just get two hand tattoos and a forehead. | ||
| Get your face tattooed. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| No mark of the beast. | ||
| They can't even mark you. | ||
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Ta-da. | |
| Boom. | ||
| So we know from listening to a lot of these dum-dums that they have a unique mental thing that they think fiction is real. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| We would consider that like a breakage. | ||
| It's a slip. | ||
| It's a slip. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a hole in the... | ||
| Tim is not immune to this. | ||
| Alex, have you watched the show Utopia? | ||
| Yes, I have. | ||
| I've watched the original. | ||
| And the new one? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And they're warning you. | ||
| Well, so hold on. | ||
| Let me break this up for people who don't know. | ||
| Utopia, spoiler alerts, is a show about, simply put, a tech billionaire who makes fake meat and is concerned about overpopulation stages a fake pandemic to rush through an experimental vaccine without approval that... | ||
| Convinces people they're being saved, but actually sterilizes them. | ||
| But wait, there's more. | ||
| The core storyline follows a group of young people who believe a comic book called Utopia was written to convey the secret plan of these elites so that regular people could know, who were smart enough, could know what was going on. | ||
| So let me just say, it's a show about a guy who secretly unveils the plan of the global elites through a work of fiction. | ||
| And it is a tech billionaire concerned about overpopulation that's sterilizing people through a fake pandemic. | ||
| And completely unrelated, it's a work of fiction. | ||
| In our reality, in real reality, there's a work of fiction that claims a tech billionaire is. | ||
| So, you know, it's kind of just funny. | ||
| Well, let me take you one further. | ||
| And I've talked to Chris Carter. | ||
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Do you have to? | |
| He talks about it in news articles. | ||
| He's the X-Files guy? | ||
| X-Files guy. | ||
| Before, you know, the last season they did, like, 2016. | ||
| Well, there's so much to problem. | ||
| Alex has forgotten his X-Files narrative about how the X-Files was based on him. | ||
| I was going to say. | ||
| Oh, that's sad. | ||
| That's sad when your talking point just stammers. | ||
| That's his thing! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The show Utopia came out in 2020, but it was a remake of a British series that came out in 2013. | ||
| Having only read a synopsis of the show, it seems like Tim is describing the plot of the remake fairly accurately, but where I find us veering apart is where he thinks that description accurately fits with what happened in the real world during COVID. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he seems to be thinking, oh, this is prophetic, but a lot of that shit, it did not happen. | ||
| No. | ||
| But there was a virus outbreak. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Also, that was the plot of season two of Heroes in 2007. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Isaac could paint the future, and he painted comic book-style warnings of a person holding a vial and a biohazard sign. | ||
| Whoopty shit! | ||
| I'm gonna throw this out at you. | ||
| Okay, I remember this movie when I was growing up from the 90s, right? | ||
| Okay, so this guy, he's in another country, okay? | ||
| And then a disease, okay? | ||
| Goes from an ape to a human, so it transfers from an animal to a human, and that leads to a large pandemic situation. | ||
| You know what they described it as? | ||
| Outbreak. | ||
| See, this sucks, because when you said a person in another country, I was like, please let this be bean. | ||
| Please let it be bean. | ||
| Please be talking about bean. | ||
| Oh, if only! | ||
| I want to hear about Bean. | ||
| Also, the original Utopia, fantastic. | ||
| Really, really great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Really great. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| So the writer of the original Utopia series, the one you love so much, he didn't even come up with the idea. | ||
| He said in an interview that Kudos Film and TV pitched the idea to him, then they produced it after he wrote it. | ||
| I didn't think this was suspicious at all until I looked a little bit deeper and I found that Kudos is owned by a parent company named Banajay. | ||
| Banajay, in turn, is owned by a charitable trust called the Fauci-Schwab Endowment to sterilize everyone with vaccines and make them eat bugs. | ||
| That is unusual naming. | ||
| Usually whenever they're evil, they make it like Americans for Progress, you know? | ||
| This is suspicious. | ||
| That is pretty suspicious. | ||
| I can't believe Tim didn't get to the bottom of it. | ||
| It's really hard. | ||
| You take two extra steps and then you get the name. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's right there. | ||
| This is how lazy they are. | ||
| They don't even know it when it's right in their faces. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| Vaccines in the comic book and the TV show that is real, apparently, it sterilizes everyone and what have you. | ||
| And so Alex decides, I'm going to throw out one of my references about vaccine stuff. | ||
| Go back to the previous point, Utopia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, this is what's really going on. | ||
| And this is what I've been told by Dr. Rima Labo, whose husband was the head of the Army and the head of special operations and the head of all the secret projects. | ||
| They made the movie Ministeric Ghosts to make fun of it, but that was just one project. | ||
| It was actually deadly serious. | ||
| Deadly serious. | ||
| I spent time in Chile with them. | ||
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Absolutely true. | |
| The conversations I had with them and the head of the U.S. Intel was absolutely just mind-boggling. | ||
| But they're retired now. | ||
| But they're warning people about all this stuff. | ||
| And when we talk about the larger woo-woo energetic stuff, it's all real on so many different levels. | ||
| So General Stubblebine was a nut, and Rima Lebo tried to sell laminated Don't Vaccinate Me cards for like $35. | ||
| Those almost worked. | ||
| Lebo may not be active in the game anymore because she tried to sell a fake COVID cure and got sued by the DOJ in 2020. | ||
| Yeah, that'll happen. | ||
| She and her business partner, who goes by the moniker The Vitamin Lawyer, had to recall all of the product that they'd fraudulently sold and destroy all of it that they had remaining. | ||
| That was her nano-silver product. | ||
| Which I believe was a big part of her hustle. | ||
| So the fact that she had to destroy her supply of nanosilver might have just put her out of the game. | ||
| So prior to COVID, she was still selling it for other stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but she decided to market it. | ||
| Oh man, so dumb. | ||
| Classic Labo. | ||
| Short-sighted. | ||
| Short-sighted. | ||
| Should have laminated it. | ||
| Pulling a Labo. | ||
| Alex is coming up with that. | ||
| I've got to tell you, I have a dream of a label. | ||
| Stubblebine! | ||
| So at the end there, Luke Radowski comes in and he's like, some of this woo-woo energy stuff is real. | ||
| I did notice that. | ||
| I did notice that. | ||
| And this leads to an unfortunate thing that Tim needs to wrestle with, and that is, he's talking to idiots. | ||
| And therefore, magic is real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is an issue there. | ||
| So let's get into talking about magic. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| So like psychic powers and stuff are real? | ||
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Remote viewing, stuff like that. | |
| But the problem is there's con artists and stuff that claim it. | ||
| What they found is it's real, it's uncontrollable. | ||
| So anyone saying they've got control like their Gandalf is a liar. | ||
| Everybody's got... | ||
| How do geese know how to fly from northern Canada all the way to Mexico? | ||
| And they were born in Canada. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| They have magnetic rods in their brains. | ||
| I've met a lot of people. | ||
| Are you a goose? | ||
| And this is a tendency I see. | ||
| I've met a lot of people who have claimed this. | ||
| They've claimed that magic is real. | ||
| And I've seen more of it in Hollywood than I've seen in other places. | ||
| But granted, there's only a handful of people. | ||
| And they say things like either magic is real or I have the ability to manifest reality. | ||
| Like these kinds of ideas. | ||
| And these are people who somehow... | ||
| Stumble upon great fortune in their lives. | ||
| Like, quite literally, like I'm talking about people who I would consider to be moderately unremarkable in terms of work ethic and ability, but somehow always, always navigate properly into wealth and means. | ||
| And they say to me, oh, it's because I have magic. | ||
| That's what they tell me. | ||
| I think sometimes people define these things differently. | ||
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You and I talked about this stuff, but we've kind of found ourselves in crazy situations that you might have thought about prior, and you don't even know how you wound up at the end. | |
| So to go back to that idea, though, are you suggesting that various people have different levels of access to some kind of metaphysical energy or something? | ||
| Well, I actually know a lot about this, but not from books or anything from actual experience. | ||
| And so we get into a whole long story of stuff, and it's pretty wild. | ||
| But I don't know if you want to know this stuff. | ||
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I definitely want to know this stuff. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Both sides of my family are heavily psychic. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Dan, Dan, okay. | ||
| You know we do the show sober now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You need to let me know beforehand if I need to get incredibly high to do this show with you. | ||
| Yeah, this conversation is... | ||
| Dumb. | ||
| I'm trying to come up with other words, but it's just very dumb. | ||
| There's just nothing to say. | ||
| There's nothing to say about this other than stop it. | ||
| If Tim Pool is reporting to me that a bunch of people that he knows who are in Hollywood, who maybe are the type of people who have lucked upon a bunch of success in their life, tell him that it's magic, I would say that... | ||
| Maybe they're being sarcastic or kind of flippant with you because they don't want to talk about it. | ||
| It's a good idea. | ||
| That's a possibility. | ||
| I wouldn't do it. | ||
| Or another possibility is that they are people who recognize that a fair amount of what's gone on in their life has been luck, and they are... | ||
| They feel privileged in some way to have had that luck, but they also need to take ownership over the things that have happened in their life. | ||
| So they ascribe it to luck. | ||
| It may not even be a conscious thing that they're doing, but in some way to make the narrative still centered around you as opposed to things happening to you, now I'm manifesting all this stuff instead of like, oh, a thing happened. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It would be like me believing in magic instead of just believing that my mediocre talent hitched itself to the right wagon. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That makes more sense. | ||
| Not magic. | ||
| But even I have luck. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You hitched your wagon to a garbage sauce. | ||
| Lucky magic. | ||
| So yeah, this conversation is just fucking stupid. | ||
| But I got very excited when Alex said, both sides of my family are very psychic. | ||
| Yeah, that's where we began. | ||
| Because I was like, now we have to talk about this. | ||
| Now Tim Pool has to talk about this. | ||
| Can't not. | ||
| He has to now be sitting in a room with Alex Jones, staring him dead in the face, and sincerely telling him that both sides of his family are profoundly psychic. | ||
| I am Confederate royalty and also the Confederates had psychic powers. | ||
| This just ends up becoming metaphysical. | ||
| Metaphysics word salad, so get ready for that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Both sides of my family are heavily psychic. | ||
| My grandmother's, my great-grandmother on my mom's side was, like, one of the top psychics, but she was not public. | ||
| She was secret in Dallas. | ||
| Like, the U.S. presidents would come see her and stuff. | ||
| So, I mean, and my family wouldn't even talk about it. | ||
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So, it gets pretty crazy. | |
| People are going to think you're, you know, people are going to... | ||
| It's very hard to describe because there's so much... | ||
| Look, I have dreams that completely come true, and almost everybody's had that happen, but I... | ||
| I have, but everybody has it. | ||
| I have, but on the scale, a lot of... | ||
| But it's... | ||
| They've proven now with all the mathematics, there's all these other higher dimensions. | ||
| That's like dark matter. | ||
| It's five times stronger on average. | ||
| And it's most of space. | ||
| Well, it's actually whatever's holding this in. | ||
| So our DNA is just simply a code that just takes the proteins and salts and things and then builds these things. | ||
| It's like you breed two ragdoll cats and you get more beautiful magic creatures. | ||
| And it's because it's a... | ||
| The third dimensional body we have is like a footprint in the sand of the higher dimensional. | ||
| It's energetics, and then all DNA is is a seed planted that has that code to bring in that energy. | ||
| That's all it is, okay? | ||
| And so there is no time. | ||
| It all loops back in. | ||
| It's full space, all that stuff. | ||
| It's full space. | ||
| Full space, baby. | ||
| Full space. | ||
| Dude, and this manifestation is what you call the weakest level of what our true entity is. | ||
| Let me try and put it this way. | ||
| It's like the fingernail of something doing the thinking. | ||
| So like... | ||
| Like Tim Pool's not sitting there. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I've heard this, that we're all basically like follicles of some big being. | ||
| You high now? | ||
| Not enough. | ||
| Not enough. | ||
| I'm just thinking of exactly how much of this is Alex not understanding that Dune is fiction. | ||
| Dune and a hundred other things. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I mean, once you throw in Fold Space, though, you're kind of tipping your hand. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| I've not read Dune. | ||
| You know I'm not a Dune guy. | ||
| You're not a Dune guy. | ||
| Fold Space is in Dune? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So what happens is the Navigators... | ||
| I'm shaking my head not at you, but at Alex. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So the navigators encase themselves in a melange gas in an enclosure, and it alters their bodies. | ||
| But it gives them the ability to see through time just enough to be able to fold space without winding up in the sun or something like that. | ||
| That is the ability that the melange gives, right? | ||
| And that is the power that the quickness... | ||
| What does this have to do with spice? | ||
| The melange is the spice. | ||
| What does it have to do with Duncan Idaho? | ||
| Duncan Idaho is friend to and mentor to Paul Atreides, the Kwisatz Haderach. | ||
| Hear me out of this. | ||
| Also, regularly cloned for thousands of years by Leto II, the son of the Kwisatz Haderach, Paul Atreides, alright? | ||
| He becomes the god-emperor of Dune because he becomes a sandworm himself! | ||
| You know what I was thinking about? | ||
| What were you thinking about? | ||
| How boring Dune is? | ||
| Duncan Idaho. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Great name. | ||
| Idaho. | ||
| Makes me think of potatoes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You know what's good on potatoes? | ||
| Butter? | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Put some spices on that potato, fold it up. | ||
| Now you got fold space. | ||
| That's all I can think about. | ||
| I'm hungry. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| Anyway, Rima Labo comes back up. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Let me just expand on the earlier thing about Utopia. | ||
| What Rima Labo told me... | ||
| And what other... | ||
| And she was a doctor to heads of state. | ||
| And she told me off record who told her about the culling plan. | ||
| We're going to use the vaccine. | ||
| We're going to do it all. | ||
| That's why I'm in that Jesse Ventura episode that I basically wrote off real stuff about the vaccines. | ||
| It's viral everywhere. | ||
| And how they'll roll it out. | ||
| How they're going to have lockdowns and do all this. | ||
| She told me, she said, it's an IQ test, Alex. | ||
| And she said, when they roll this out, they're going to put warnings out. | ||
| They're going to tell people what's going on. | ||
| Their argument is, as long as they metaphysically warn you, like... | ||
| Putting an ad in the paper, we're going to take this house on this day, so be at the courthouse if you want to. | ||
| Or, these people are about to be married. | ||
| If anyone wants to challenge this, say it now or forever hold your peace. | ||
| It's a contract, metaphysically, where they know that they have to tell you. | ||
| The people putting out Utopia think they're probably helping people. | ||
| And they probably were. | ||
| But those that told them that and let that get out wanted that for a larger reason to actually warn people who they think need to be saved. | ||
| So it's all an IQ test. | ||
| And I was told that basically that's what a lot of high up folks told me. | ||
| That's what Chris Carter has said. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's an IQ test to not take a vaccine. | ||
| You failed by taking a vaccine. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alright, fine. | ||
| And the lady who sold laminated cards. | ||
| Is that really what you want? | ||
| Is that what you want the conspiracy to be? | ||
| I would want it to be better. | ||
| Here's what would happen. | ||
| If this was something that I did find out was true, and they released it through a show starring John Cusack that is a ghost of the original, I would be disappointed. | ||
| I would want a better conspiracy. | ||
| Yeah, I would be like this... | ||
| Timeline of reality is underwritten. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a first draft. | ||
| Y 'all gotta work this out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also, I would have zero fear about this conspiracy working. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I would be like, oh, I would also be relieved. | ||
| I would be like, oh, thank God. | ||
| There's no chance of them doing it. | ||
| It already worked, COVID. | ||
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Boom. | |
| Ta-da. | ||
| Ah, boy, I just don't think so. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So I was hoping, because I'm listening to this... | ||
| With optimistic ears. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm wanting to have an impression of Tim that he's somebody who can, like, have some backbone, stand up for himself, be like, you've crossed the line of being not a serious person. | ||
| Vaccines are a fucking IQ test. | ||
| All right, dude, whatever. | ||
| Both my sides of my family are psychics. | ||
| That's where I jump off. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But that's kind of fun. | ||
| That is kind of fun. | ||
| This is condescending and fucking stupid. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And I was kind of hoping that this would be a point where it'd just be like, alright, I can't really take you seriously anymore. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| Turns out Tim's on board. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| Great! | ||
| People have asked, why do they allow shows like mine? | ||
| Shows like yours not, but shows like mine, yes. | ||
| And there's a couple views. | ||
| One is, if you look at the abortion stuff and you look at the trans stuff, I have made this point many times this past week. | ||
| I put out a tweet saying spay and neuter your children to prevent overpopulation. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| No hit pieces, no complaints. | ||
| I've ramped it up and said the left are excising themselves from the gene pool through sterilization Did you ramp it up? | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| Not a single leftist complains. | ||
| I have tweeted this too! | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| The leftist ideology is people opting in to kill themselves. | ||
| But listen, they don't care. | ||
| The media doesn't care that I say that. | ||
| But then I say, don't buy Budweiser, and oh, do they lose their minds. | ||
| What? | ||
| What I see with this is, I actually see exactly what you described. | ||
| I would not be surprised, I'll put it this way, that they would consider it an IQ test because the end result are that the people, if I go to someone and say, Here's what's happening. | ||
| And they say, duh, and then ignore it. | ||
| There's only so much you can do. | ||
| It feels like... | ||
| Forced selection. | ||
| Artificial selection. | ||
| Create a circumstance by which smart people can survive, and stupid people will not, and you are engaging in eugenics. | ||
| Well, they also energetically believe that they're absolving themselves of any kind of responsibility by making it so overt, by having the kind of larger symbolism there, and essentially telling you what they're doing, and this is a larger kind of demonic energy as well, because they're like, oh yeah, we didn't do anything. | ||
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They knew what they were doing, and they have no responsibility at all. | |
| Exactly, because in the universe, taking something that sent in its free will is a law that you break, you get destroyed. | ||
| So they have to tell you so that it's your free will choice. | ||
| If you have a devil that has to follow intergalactic space laws, you don't have it. | ||
| You just got a weird asshole from another dimension or whatever. | ||
| That's not the devil, that's just another asshole. | ||
| He's in a different dimension than you. | ||
| If it's another dimension and it's still filled with assholes? | ||
| The ultimate evil, to me, doesn't follow a rule. | ||
| Anyway, I can help Tim figure out that earlier question about how people generally ignore him. | ||
| It's because he's a real desperate poster on social media. | ||
| Like, he tweets bait all the time, trying to farm outrage from people, and for the most part, I suspect that people have figured out... | ||
| That dynamic and they just ignore his cries for attention. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He says something offensive to get people to retweet and quote tweet him so it spreads his name out there. | ||
| In the case of the Bud Light thing, I would imagine that's mostly just people who commented on anything Tim said. | ||
| They were just making fun of him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know what hit pieces he's talking about. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just don't understand how you can live inside the head of these people, look out through their eyes and then see what they see and go, yeah, that's real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Intergalactic space law. | ||
| And I've figured out the rules of that intergalactic space law. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I apply it to how I watch TV. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| I am one of the smart ones. | ||
| I just... | ||
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Tien? | |
| Yep. | ||
| Tien? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is almost a Project Camelot at this point. | ||
| I mean, it is! | ||
| We've got psychic ferrets, we've got interdimensional contract law coming up. | ||
| I thought you said psychic ferrets, and I got excited. | ||
| Oh, now I'm excited, because that should be on Project Camelot alongside the mercantile dogs! | ||
| I dated someone back in my Missouri days who had a couple ferrets. | ||
| And it was so weird, they would go under a closed door. | ||
| Things are fucking neat. | ||
| They're tiny on the inside. | ||
| And psychic. | ||
| Notoriously psychic. | ||
| Like horses. | ||
| It's been proven. | ||
| Oh my god, they know! | ||
| So, chief it up. | ||
| Smoke one if you got one. | ||
| Pop your edible, Jordan, because this next clip is about two and a half minutes that begins with talking about free will. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| And it ends with Tim Pool describing the plot of ancient aliens. | ||
| Do we have a bong? | ||
| What do we need? | ||
| This really feels biblical, to be honest. | ||
| The idea of the war between heaven and hell, and all of the tropes we've seen with movies like Constantine or whatever, where the devil and God are like... | ||
| That movie came out like 12 years ago. | ||
| How many souls can he capture? | ||
| 20 years ago, yeah. | ||
| I view it like a war between God and the devil, and God says, only through their own free will are you allowed to capture souls. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And if you can't do it that way, then you get nothing. | ||
| And the devil said, I bet you I can get a lot through free will. | ||
| And so that's the battle. | ||
| Your cosmology involves God and the devil betting each other shit. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Nibiru or Maris. | ||
| Planet X. And this idea that... | ||
| You probably know more about this than I do, but the idea was... | ||
| An alien's race came to Earth and genetically modified apes to be a slave race. | ||
| And then there was a faction of these aliens that said, it's wrong to do this. | ||
| And we don't think you should create semi-intelligent slave races. | ||
| And so it created a war between the factions, which resulted in... | ||
| You know, like the freeing of the slave. | ||
| Are we discussing this seriously? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| So I guess... | ||
| Is this happening? | ||
| I think it's clear you look at human evolution and it's not the way the church says it is. | ||
| It's not the way the scientists... | ||
| The real scientists now admit there's massive jumps and there's DNA cut in there. | ||
| And there's definitely been massive... | ||
| I mean, we were definitely designed. | ||
| All of this was obviously designed. | ||
| Well, so let me try and simplify. | ||
| There's a couple different schools of thought in this conspiracy theory. | ||
| That's why we shit all the time. | ||
| Because it's not a conspiracy. | ||
| It's just like a weird story. | ||
| But it's either an alien species created humans to be slaves to mine gold. | ||
| That's one of the, you know, cookie stories. | ||
| And then within this faction, they split in two with one saying, we think this is morally wrong, and one saying, who cares, they're ours. | ||
| Another theory is that aliens came to Earth and created an intelligent species to mine gold for them, but they were too smart. | ||
| And they said, no, we will not serve you. | ||
| So then the aliens created a subspecies, humans, which were even stupider, creating a conflict between the first and the second or whatever. | ||
| But here's my point. | ||
| So we're the Morlocks? | ||
| The general idea is the two factions were fighting over whether or not humans should have free will. | ||
| And it very much is more of a sci-fi version of the battle between God and the devil or good and evil. | ||
| Sure, we'll hear from... | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| This is exhausting, honestly. | ||
| Listening to this was an interesting experience because I didn't know this bullshit was what he dabbles in. | ||
| I mean, really? | ||
| This is much dumber than I thought his show was. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But I guess that's always kind of the experience. | ||
| You watch a Matt Walsh episode or a Michael Knowles episode. | ||
| I'm sure, I've never watched a full episode of Ben Shapiro's show, but I'm sure the same is for him. | ||
| This is dumber than I thought it was. | ||
| There's a reason this only generally pops up in clips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| No, it does us all a disservice. | ||
| We don't know how truly fucking stupid all of these people really are. | ||
| Because we're not watching. | ||
| And it's the same thing with Alex when I first started. | ||
| There was an image I had of him from not watching his show. | ||
| And then you watch full episodes. | ||
| This is dumber and more dangerous than expected. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Turns out... | ||
| Sometimes Tim Pool will very sincerely discuss nuances of different ideas around ancient aliens. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's fun! | ||
| I just... | ||
| I just don't want to have a conversation where it's like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What are the dinosaurs there for? | ||
| Ah, the aliens killed. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| So Alex gets into his head talking about light and dark energy, you know, like good and evil, angels and the devil and what have you. | ||
| Studying history, looking at this, and also dreams I've had, and then later finding out that it's in Sanskrit. | ||
| You're finding out it's in Sanskrit. | ||
| We see it as a cosmology of God and the devil, and it is God that made it. | ||
| But it really is. | ||
| There's destructive chaos energy. | ||
| And then there is enlightened higher levels of energy and the true singularity, all knowledge, all free will, beauty, creativity that gives birth to more free will. | ||
| So you have this spectrum and what energy do you resonate with from the third dimension that's a jumping off point? | ||
| You know, the lowest dimension that actually has real matter. | ||
| Are you going to drift into these other... | ||
| Dimensions or false dimensions are things that have been created to not be part of this larger creation? | ||
| These rebellions? | ||
| These breakaway dimensions? | ||
| It's not just lower dimensions, breakaway dimensions. | ||
| Or are you going to resonate up into beyond nirvana, beyond enlightenment? | ||
| Ascend? | ||
| Ascend, yeah. | ||
| Have you ever seen Stargate SG-1? | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| I've seen some of the episodes. | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| Hey bro, you seen Stargate? | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| You seen Stargate? | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| I swear there needs to be a voice of reason. | ||
| I think this show would actually be really interesting if I was just screaming over them every time they said something fucking stupid. | ||
| It would make for... | ||
| At least some conflict or something. | ||
| Yeah, and I think what would be fun about that would be to see how much they reel themselves in from realizing, like, I just can't say whatever I want. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| No, I'm insane. | ||
| I will be the crazy one in this conversation if I must. | ||
| You're gonna yell. | ||
| If they bring up how another sci-fi thing is real. | ||
| Which is going to happen quite a bit for the next stretch of the show. | ||
| People like H.G. Wells, people, the time machine, all of that, things to come. | ||
| Thanks for clearing that up. | ||
| I mean, there's Augustine Clark, who was in British intelligence and all the rest of it. | ||
| They wrote white papers and also non-fiction books admitting this is my real cosmology. | ||
| This is what I really believe. | ||
| And it's really the same story over and over and over again of the Morlocks and the Eloi. | ||
| The Morlocks have the knowledge. | ||
| They're really beast shielding control. | ||
| The general public that's simple-minded, but they basically feed on them. | ||
| But if you go further in childhood's end, these aliens show up and say we're going to be alive and send you technology and heal you and everything. | ||
| And finally, for a few generations, they say now we're going to show you what we look like. | ||
| And it's like a 15-foot tall, big, giant red devil. | ||
| And by the way, we want your children because they're going to ascend. | ||
| And basically people go, fine, you've already given us all this life extension, here's the kids. | ||
| The kids leave their bodies, go up into the spaceship, and basically take off. | ||
| And the thing is, those devils really aren't the devils in his cosmology. | ||
| They're a species that's unable to evolve like humans to the next level that is just a servant class on the big ship that goes around scooping up. | ||
| But when they're done, they blow the planet Earth up. | ||
| What do they do with the kids? | ||
| They just download them. | ||
| That's not quite what Childhood's End... | ||
| He's missing a few details. | ||
| Fudging a little bit of the plot. | ||
| Maybe that's similar to the miniseries of Childhood's End than the book. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But the miniseries was more recent, I think. | ||
| I think it was like 2015. | ||
| So he's talked about Childhood's End for longer than that, and it clearly is something that has haunted him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He doesn't remember some of the points. | ||
| There's only one sci-fi book that I do believe is real. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| And I think I was about nine when I first read this. | ||
| And it was called My Teacher is an Alien. | ||
| Ooh, yeah. | ||
| And it delivered. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Because that teacher was an alien. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And then they went into space and then they came back and I think the teacher just stayed in the job. | ||
| I think that was the resolution to that book. | ||
| Has the teacher continued working as a menial? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw a documentary once called My Stepmom's an Alien. | ||
| That one was... | ||
| I mean, you learn a lot. | ||
| So here's another movie that's real. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Just like in the movie that's an excellent movie, The Island, where... | ||
| They think they're on an island because there's been a bioattack and they're safe. | ||
| They've got to exercise and be ready to win and get sent to the new island that's better. | ||
| And really, they're just clones. | ||
| But they found that if you just have a bag with a clone in it, keeping it alive, the organs die. | ||
| It's not healthy. | ||
| So these are clones of famous people, rich people on the outside. | ||
| They finally break out. | ||
| They finally see it. | ||
| It's an allegory of Plato's cave. | ||
| No, that was an allegory. | ||
| That's what you'd say is you have a lot of strong people and we're just basically a planet of spare parts. | ||
| And then now it's evolving where the globalists are going to be the interface with these groups to be the brokers and actually, you know, the earth is ripening and now ready for culling. | ||
| Have you seen the movie Jupiter Rising? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I meant to. | ||
| What are we fucking doing here? | ||
| But it definitely is in line with a lot of what we're talking about. | ||
| Like one of the characters is a dog-human hybrid. | ||
| And bred for loyalty and service to be a soldier to protect the royal family. | ||
| Half man, half duck. | ||
| I'm my own best friend. | ||
| There's powerful intergalactic elites that they're human and they create planets of humans that once it reaches to a few billion, like 10 billion people, they cull all of the humans because they need ridiculous sums of human life to extend their own lives. | ||
| So they're farming planets of humans so they can live forever. | ||
| So it's the story of the Dark Crystal. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It would be one thing if they were doing a movie review show. | ||
| I think I would. | ||
| And they're talking about these things as artistic ideas and stuff, but they're talking about it as if this is what the globalists are doing and this relates to the world. | ||
| Here's what I'm realizing. | ||
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Guys. | |
| These people cannot just have a fun pop culture conversation. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because pop culture is all evil. | ||
| It's supposed to be, at least. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So they cannot just be like, hey, you want to talk about your favorite sci-fi movies? | ||
| They have to be metaphors. | ||
| I'm not really into sci-fi. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not really into movies. | ||
| I'm not a Star Wars guy. | ||
| Sure, I watch all those movies, but I watch them for learning purposes. | ||
| I don't watch them because I enjoy them. | ||
| I study them because they tell me what the globalists are doing. | ||
| I don't come out of a theater and go, one, two, three, Matt Damon. | ||
| I don't do that shit. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Just enjoy a fucking movie. | ||
| Yeah, they're not fun. | ||
| So we get off from the movies. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| I can't handle it anymore. | ||
| And now we go biblical. | ||
| Whether the whole Adrena Crow thing is real or not, and there's obviously devil worshippers that do weird stuff like that, this whole thing is about farming the young, using the young, expending the young, sending the young off to die in wars. | ||
| That's why it's not just in the movie Ten Commandments, it's not just in the Bible. | ||
| They've gone and read the scrolls that are in the tombs and the hieroglyphs where Ramsey's the first. | ||
| He said there are too many of these Jews, which is one of their slave classes. | ||
| Everybody was their slaves. | ||
| And I want the firstborn male killed because they knew the firstborn male they now know or firstborn girl. | ||
| That's why all the astronauts are firstborn, all that. | ||
| Somehow downloads, it's not just that they're around adults more, so they act more adult. | ||
| They somehow download knowledge more from their parents. | ||
| It's like designed how this metaphysical electromagnetic system works. | ||
| It's been proven in other animals as well, but particularly humans, but also whales, dolphins, you name it. | ||
| Yeah, firstborn whales get all that information. | ||
| They get all that information. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| In the book of Matthew, Herod orders the killing of all the children under two because it was said that the king of the Jews had been born. | ||
| Pharaoh didn't kill the firstborn among the Hebrew population. | ||
| He ordered the midwives to kill all males that were born. | ||
| The connection to the firstborn was that the death of the firstborn was the tenth plague that God sent against Egypt to get Pharaoh to let Moses and his people go. | ||
| Alex should know that. | ||
| I was about to say, this is the most important thing that God did. | ||
| Yeah, he reversed this. | ||
| Pharaoh is doing the thing that... | ||
| This is strange. | ||
| You gotta read the book, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta read the book. | ||
| No, you prefer sci-fi. | ||
| I mean, don't tell me about Charlton Heston first. | ||
| Also, Buzz Aldrin had two older sisters. | ||
| Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin had an older brother. | ||
| Mae Jemison had two older siblings. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| This does raise an important question, though. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| This idea of the firstborn getting more of the memory and stuff. | ||
| What if your firstborn are twins? | ||
| Does the one born a minute earlier download more race memory? | ||
| Like, is it a first out of the womb kind of thing? | ||
| You can't have firstborn twins. | ||
| One of them always eats the other one in the womb. | ||
| That's science. | ||
| No! | ||
| I saw it in Jupiter Ascending. | ||
| Oh, no Jupiter Rising. | ||
| No, the name of the movie is Jupiter Ascending. | ||
| He didn't know that because he can't understand the word. | ||
| And also, the other thing, too, is that I would have thought Alex would have been very keen to see that because it was made by the Wachowskis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, so much of all of these Ding Dongs worldview is based on this red pill stuff in The Matrix. | ||
| You'd think that if the Wachowskis had created such an important piece of media for them, they'd see everything that they make and search for clues and stuff. | ||
| But yeah, Alex never saw Jupiter Ascending. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Strange. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Can somebody read the book? | ||
| I'm so tired of being the only person, it feels like. | ||
| No. | ||
| No time. | ||
| No time. | ||
| Speaking of no time, Alex has got to get to work. | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| By the way, we can go long if you want to because my show's 11. But I can have Owen come in or I can run stuff because we can go right up to 11 if you want or after. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I have nothing but time for you. | ||
| My show starts at 11. I can just have Owen do it. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Let me be honest with you. | ||
| No one watches my show. | ||
| No one cares if I'm there. | ||
| My ratings are garbage. | ||
| And I will stay on this because you are more likely to give me viewers. | ||
| It is far more important for me to try and capture some of your audience by pretending to be interesting. | ||
| My audience. | ||
| They'll be there. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I'm going to be honest. | ||
| I don't think I should even go back to that place. | ||
| I never want to go back. | ||
| I never want to go back there. | ||
| So, Tim, alright. | ||
| There's a fair amount of talk about the Observer Paradox. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Are we talking Heisenberg principle? | ||
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There's... | |
| I mean, it's just the most... | ||
| A sort of pedestrian metaphysics kind of thing. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Light is a particle in a wave. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's the thing that is the most pop-culture-y of that. | ||
| And so whenever you want to sound real deep and stuff, it's something you'll throw into conversation. | ||
| Do we get some two slits experiment? | ||
| There's some talk of the two slits. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| But it also gets into this. | ||
| The idea is this. | ||
| If that is true, that observers have an impact on reality through what they expect or just through observation, that would mean that every single human is participating in the creation. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And then perhaps you start seeing things like magic. | ||
| And they all, among each other, can see people doing things that are magical. | ||
| But as population expands, more and more people are competing in their observation with what reality is, which basically solidifies it. | ||
| It can no longer change because everyone's perspectives are the same. | ||
| And that's why through big mass events they program us. | ||
| Unless you then fluoridate everyone's brain and destroy the part of their brain that connects to the metaphysical. | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| You know, you can't... | ||
| I was just thinking about when I was listening to that. | ||
| You don't know what other people in your same classes are learning, you know? | ||
| Like, when I was in high school, I just assumed that when I was learning something from the teacher, I was reading the book, I was taking that information, alright? | ||
| I was absorbing it to use for later. | ||
| Apparently, that is not the average experience for these folks. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, because, like, gained information is kind of the same as dumb thought I had. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It seems like those two are... | ||
| They're on an equal footing. | ||
| Yeah, see, that's a problem that I have. | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
| Generally speaking, my dumb thoughts, I let go immediately. | ||
| So, who's to say that if there were ten people left alive, that each of them would have an equal say in dictating the observance of reality? | ||
| Don't. | ||
| Why does Tim assume that? | ||
| Why does he assume that it would... | ||
| I don't know, because clearly this universe is set up in an egalitarian way, as we all know from the earlier conversation those two dum-dums had about the god and the devil fighting all the fucking time. | ||
| What concrete difference do you make with reality by a wave and a particle? | ||
| Like, what is the change there? | ||
| You know, you see it, you don't see it. | ||
| Magic? | ||
| Can you just reshape all of reality? | ||
| I mean, I guess. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Just learn. | ||
| Just learn things from a book. | ||
| This is just dumb, like, late-night stone conversation or something. | ||
| And it's really weird to see people treating it like it's serious. | ||
| Yeah, this is fucking me up. | ||
| These are adults. | ||
| And, like, we're the thinkers. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| This is fucked up. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Get to a drum circle and hit the spliff. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So, Tim has a kind of a... | ||
| Bad thought here. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Luke brought up the concept of useless eaters. | ||
| Who's that guy? | ||
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Yuval Harari. | |
| Yuval Harari? | ||
| He says that there's like a bunch of people on the planet that are useless eaters. | ||
| And I hear a lot from the anti-establishment or conspiracists, whatever you want to call it, side where they're like, how could he say that? | ||
| All these people are evil. | ||
| And I'm like, but he's right. | ||
| There are useless eaters. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying he's right in what his plans are, but there are a lot of people on this planet who I would describe as useless. | ||
| And the problem is you have this zombie cult faction of people who are celebrating it. | ||
| Well, but I would call them either fire or zombies, in that what I view as the woke left is a chaotic and destructive force that is only tearing down human civilization. | ||
| Tasmanian devils. | ||
| And that, to me, they're useless eaters. | ||
| They consume and destroy. | ||
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So... | |
| Is that wrong to call them useless eaters? | ||
| Well, let's expand on that. | ||
| That's a chicken or the egg debate. | ||
| Let's not expand on that. | ||
| No, let's definitely not expand on that. | ||
| So just to be clear, useless eaters is a term that traces back to the Holocaust. | ||
| It definitely was not a way that Harari described people. | ||
| In December 2022, a screenshot of a page of a book went around on social media showing the text, quote, At least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal rapid-acting diseases, Sure. | ||
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The Post claimed that this was written by Klaus Schwab, but of course it's fake. | |
| It's a passage from a 1992 conspiracy theory book titled The Conspirators'Hierarchy: The Committee of 300 by a guy named John Coleman. | ||
| Coleman claims that this text appeared in H.G. But that is also a lie. | ||
| I found one speech that Harari gave where he uses the word useless, but it's describing a negative state of affairs that could arise in the future where the rich use things like bioengineering to turn themselves into superhumans and the rest of us become an economically and militarily useless class. | ||
| It's not something that he's saying is good. | ||
| He's saying this is a danger of the future. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's fun that Tim is responding to a fake thing someone didn't say and using that as a rationalization to allow himself to call people he doesn't like useless eaters, though. | ||
| Solid fucking work. | ||
| And it shows his brain, like, the way that he works. | ||
| He's like, yeah, I do wanna... | ||
| Kill off everybody. | ||
| I want to kill off the woke left. | ||
| It is very much a fun little thing for him to be like, oh, all these people that are evil. | ||
| The globalists want to kill everyone that they don't like. | ||
| Now, admittedly, I would kill everyone I don't like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't be taking some kind of a weird high ground over these demonic forces when the only difference is aesthetic between you and them. | ||
| I don't like this people. | ||
| They don't like this people. | ||
| Grow up. | ||
| Stop fucking talking about movies like they're real. | ||
| Just keep talking about movies like they're real. | ||
| Pick one! | ||
| Stick to only that. | ||
| Now, okay. | ||
| This is how fascists think! | ||
| This is where things got troubling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, the genocide part? | ||
| That was pretty troubling. | ||
| Yeah, but that was, I mean, that's more clumsy and stupid than I think it is actually explicitly genocidal. | ||
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Fair. | |
| I think he just doesn't realize how dumb and kind of poorly thought through the things he's saying are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, this, I mean, this is outrageous. | ||
| And I've basically been told that they just let you do that so that some of the smart people won't be fully destroyed. | ||
| Real quick, he's talking about the globalists letting him do his show. | ||
| Alex does his show because they let him do it so that some smart people can be turned on to the truth. | ||
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I mean, this is Klaus Schwab's right-hand man. | |
| And he's talking about specifically drugging people and pacifying them with video games so they don't revolt because they're going to be a total useless class. | ||
| And the superhuman aspect that you talk about is specifically related to artificial intelligence because they're very big into what they call the fourth industrial revolution. | ||
| He says the future is not human is a quote. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| So hold on. | ||
| If that's true, what you're basically saying is this show is permitted as kind of an arc to capture the attention of people smart enough to save themselves from what's to come. | ||
| Yeah, it's really... | ||
| Imagine there's a big flame to get the moths going in. | ||
| I hate all of you so much. | ||
| And we're standing in front of it being like, don't do it. | ||
| And they accept that we say this because it will preserve the smarter people. | ||
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It allows them deniability. | |
| It allows them to have plausible deniability to say, hey, they had a choice. | ||
| I've been saying this for a while, though. | ||
| I bet you have, you narcissistic fuck. | ||
| Now, I'm going to go out on a limb here, Dan. | ||
| I'm going to throw this out at you just real quick. | ||
| Everybody and every book and everything I have ever read... | ||
| From people that I respect greater than myself generally says something along the lines of if you call yourself smart, you're a fucking moron. | ||
| It's dangerous territory. | ||
| Now, I will say I think it probably feels really fucking good to sit around and be like the devil and his worldwide organization of evil allows my show to exist. | ||
| Because I need to exist to save the smart people who are going to naturally gravitate to my incredibly smart program. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That's got to feel awesome! | ||
| If you can trick yourself into feeling that, like Tim clearly has, that's great! | ||
| It is, it is like... | ||
| It's unhinged! | ||
| Like, okay, so in, uh, in... | ||
| I want to say... | ||
| The Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams. | ||
| I believe that... | ||
| There is a part where Zaphod Beeblebrox goes into what is described as the total perspective vortex. | ||
| And what it is, is it is a device that shows you the true spot you have in the universe. | ||
| It destroys your mind because you discover how meaningless you truly are. | ||
| It forces you to really know that, right? | ||
| And Zaphod goes in there, but because he existed within a pocket universe created solely for him, when he went into the Total Perspective Vortex, it went, you're the entire reason the universe exists, right? | ||
| That must be what that feels like. | ||
| Full time. | ||
| That must be what that feels like, you know? | ||
| That feeling of, like, the only reason that we are all on this planet is because me. | ||
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It's... | |
| Insane. | ||
| I mean, unexpected. | ||
| I didn't... | ||
| I mean, look, I knew that this guy was a little... | ||
| But, like, I didn't know he was this out there. | ||
| This is a level of... | ||
| Bizarreness that I did not expect to encounter in Tim Pool. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, my megalo has usually come with my regular mania, you know? | ||
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Sure. | |
| I don't stick with the megalomania all day, every day. | ||
| He's also so boring that, like, the idea that he thinks that possibly he's an ARC to save the smart people of the world is fascinating. | ||
| Offensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Offensive. | ||
| On a lot of levels. | ||
| Every attempt I've ever made, every try, every fail that I've overcome is meaningless in the face of his success. | ||
| Well, he goes on to talk about this. | ||
| And I think his success is due to magic. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Is this show like an arc? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Is this... | ||
| Like we were talking about... | ||
| Here's how I would describe it. | ||
| Here's how I would describe it. | ||
| Imagine the world as a space shuttle control panel with tens of thousands of switches. | ||
| And so what happens is you develop a show, you develop a brand, you develop an intellectual idea that resonates with a lot of people because it's true. | ||
| They let you get so big as a switch or a dial in case something else gets big, they can turn the dial here, here, here, and triangulate and dial that down. | ||
| Later, they'll use those points to dial you back down. | ||
| So to them, it's all a bunch of levers and switches and controls. | ||
| So Alex Jones gets too effective exposing how... | ||
| The whole thing works. | ||
| They don't want more people being outside the box. | ||
| They want the experiment to continue. | ||
| So the globalists are the wizard of Oz. | ||
| So they stop me because I was actually getting people to understand the full mechanism. | ||
| Well, maybe this is actually a really good point, right? | ||
| To a certain degree, the shows that we do are relatively esoteric. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We were talking with Jesse Kelly. | ||
| Who said for the first time his neighbors, we mentioned this at the beginning of the show, asked him about politics because of Budweiser. | ||
| And then when I say don't buy Budweiser, I get all these hit pieces written about me. | ||
| When I talk about more complex stuff, you know, like eugenics or whatever, they don't care. | ||
| And then it starts to fall in line. | ||
| The idea being that if you stay within the confines of intelligent, esoteric truth or arguments, you are totally fine. | ||
| You are... | ||
| The people who are smart enough to understand, understand, and will be preserved. | ||
| But if you... | ||
| They don't want you waking up the dumb people. | ||
| You got too big. | ||
| And all of a sudden, you got regular... | ||
| I was in Sweden. | ||
| Wait, so you did wake up the dumb people? | ||
| Remember what Donald Trump said last night in Sweden? | ||
| No. | ||
| I went there, I did this big thing where I created this two-week-long vlog interviewing people. | ||
| I'm at a Thai food restaurant in Sweden, and what do I hear? | ||
| They're coming for your income tax, you gotta listen to me! | ||
| And I'm like, what the hell? | ||
| And I turn around, and there's three young Swedish men, probably 17, 18 years old, watching on their phone a video of you. | ||
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Ha ha. | |
| So I have an explanation for Tim about why he doesn't get hippies as written about him when he tweets dumb shit about abortion, but maybe someone wrote about his dumb shit about Bud Light. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| He's really close to him. | ||
| Getting it. | ||
| It's because it's easy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The article about the Bud Light thing is self-writing, and it involves nothing but Tim and his friends being completely scandalized by a beer ad. | ||
| It's the definition of triviality, whereas getting into, like, it's best to just ignore his stupid ideas about higher-minded topics, because they're dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're not even really worth taking seriously. | ||
| He was explaining the plot of ancient aliens. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, if I drink too much coffee and go to the bathroom, I'll have a thousand words on how stupid Tim Pool is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I'm not sure what these hit pieces are that he's referring to. | ||
| I haven't seen any of these. | ||
| It might just be Twitter reactions. | ||
| I'm delighted. | ||
| Are any reputable outlets even wasting ink on him? | ||
| Here's what I think it might be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone on YouTube made a video about him, or something like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That may be what he's talking about. | ||
| Also, Tim should probably be clear about why he was in Sweden. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson offered to pay for any journalist to go to Malmo, Sweden to brave the Muslim no-go zones, and Tim was the only person brave enough to take him up on it. | ||
| That documentary is really sad. | ||
| It's just an idiot in a beanie being disappointed that the city he's in doesn't resemble the right-wing terror fantasies at all. | ||
| After it was all said and done, I think Tim wanted to distance himself from PJW, so he said on Rogan that Paul had just paid for a little bit of the trip and that he'd been planning to go anyway. | ||
| Whatever the case, it's funny that he doesn't bring this up when he's talking to Paul's boss here on the show about why he was in Sweden. | ||
| That's so... | ||
| Oh, man, it's unfair. | ||
| They just get to retcon their own failures. | ||
| I have to live with mine. | ||
| I fucking wake up in the middle of the night thinking about failures of mine. | ||
| And they just get to retcon it and be like, actually, I was great. | ||
| And then they sleep great. | ||
| That's infuriating. | ||
| Yeah, I was trying to fuel a bigoted right-wing hate machine and make people scared of Muslims. | ||
| And I ended up going to Malmo, Sweden, and it was pretty all right. | ||
| And I went to a Thai place, and there were people watching you on their phone. | ||
| Yeah, so it's very much... | ||
| Not them? | ||
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I guess so. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, look, this idea is you gotta leave the dumb people alone or something. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| It's very strange because if you think about it, there's two things going on. | ||
| There's, like, Alex was really attacked and he's, like, kicked off everything. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because he's too effective at waking up the dumb people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Meanwhile, Tim Pool is still on everything. | ||
| Because I guess he doesn't wake up the dumb people. | ||
| He only appeals to the smart. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a bit of like a weird narcissism going on here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I guess the Bud Light issue was something that was able to wake up the dumb people. | ||
| It was a soft spot for the globalists, and that's why he got pushback for it, because it was too close to waking up the dumb people. | ||
| This is not a good way to look at your audience, also, I don't think. | ||
| It's probably fairly insulting to Alex's audience, which, I mean, I don't mind. | ||
| Go ahead and insult them, but I feel like it's a bad way to... | ||
| Deal with your own audience. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But we know that Alex doesn't care much for his own fans. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| That's a wild thing to say out loud. | ||
| That is a wild and disrespectful thing to say out loud that you would only say if you were such a malignant narcissist you believe that you can insult people directly to their faces and then they will love you for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which unfortunately seems to be true. | ||
| And they talk a little more about it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's why you are dangerous. | ||
| Because you created something that was entertaining to average people that talked about complex ideas that the stupid people, they would say, should not be hearing about. | ||
| And I didn't do that on purpose. | ||
| People always ask me, and I even add, I don't work for the CIA, I don't like the CIA, but there's different factors I've talked to a lot. | ||
| Pretty high-level people. | ||
| And that's how I knew about the invasion. | ||
| The Russians were going to invade in February. | ||
| They even had the plans. | ||
| And everyone was like, how did Alex know? | ||
| Well, I mean, I've got forces and army special operations all over the place. | ||
| And they weren't exactly sure. | ||
| But they said, we're pretty sure they're going to do it by then. | ||
| That's what the chatter is. | ||
| I forgot why I was telling that story. | ||
| What was the question? | ||
| I don't know how much more masturbatory this interview can get. | ||
| Tim's show is an arc allowed to exist by the devil because they need to make sure that smart people who gravitate towards his show survive. | ||
| Alex is dangerous because he gives dumb people access to smart ideas. | ||
| This is all embarrassingly narcissistic shit. | ||
| Also, not for nothing, but Alex's show doesn't cover smart ideas. | ||
| Tim has discussed how his schedule is so busy in the past, and I can guarantee that dude doesn't listen to Alex's actual show ever. | ||
| He just knows the image of Alex that he's constructed in his head, of this renegade truth-teller who puts on an entertaining act to make the medicine go down. | ||
| That's fake. | ||
| as fake as Alex's claims about how he predicted the Ukraine invasion. | ||
| These people don't live in reality. | ||
| They live in a world of stories. | ||
| Fictional works seem real to them because they come in the form they understand, which is a narrative. | ||
| Alex's existence is too hard to understand if you deal with him in reality, but if you just pretend he's a character in a novel you imagine you're living... | ||
| I gotta say, though, I didn't expect much when I tuned into this episode, but the reveal that Tim Pool thinks that he's some kind of a Noah figure working to save humanity is pretty interesting. | ||
| It probably explains why he's built a compound for his friends slash employees to all live in. | ||
| Nothing to worry about with him being secluded in West Virginia, heavily armed, rambling with idiots about how he's going to save the human race by making a show so smart that only the smartest people can enjoy it. | ||
| I'm sorry, he has a compound in West Virginia? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I believe it's West Virginia. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| How much money do these people fucking make? | ||
| Yeah, he makes a lot of money. | ||
| This is absurd! | ||
| Yeah, I found a video of him having a skate ramp in his... | ||
| Great. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| What a cool arc. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, that's where they got the chickens. | ||
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| Because he has this compound. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Okay, I gotcha. | ||
| And maybe the way he safely gets those eggs is he has someone else do it. | ||
| Yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| I'm not worried about that spur. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So I'm going to skip this next clip because I don't really care. | ||
| And I only cut it out because Alex does his patented... | ||
| Traffic lights are the smartest AI thing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I was thinking, when he did that, I was like, he's like a stand-up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a chunk. | ||
| He's got material. | ||
| That's a chunk for him. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I was like, ah, he's doing the stoplights chunk. | ||
| He's doing the bit, yeah. | ||
| But anyway, look, Ty, you know, he's getting the light. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, I want to keep going. | ||
| I need to call my office and say, how long do you want to go? | ||
| I'm having fun or I can get broadcast over the first 30 minutes? | ||
| You can go call him. | ||
| I mean, I figure we go for like another half hour. | ||
| Okay, let's do it. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| I'll be right back in three minutes. | ||
| Yeah, hit it. | ||
| Sounds a little speedy. | ||
| Did a little tootski. | ||
| Hey, look, I've got to get to work, but I really want to stay. | ||
| I don't want to go to work. | ||
| I don't want to go to work. | ||
| I've got to call the office. | ||
| Tell them I'll be in later. | ||
| I am having fun not doing my show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Being able to talk about how we're messiah figures helping the smart survive who've passed the IQ test of not taking vaccines is his fucking nonsense. | ||
| I mean, there's something to be said. | ||
| It can be more fun to be a guest on a show than it can be to run your own solo show for three hours every day. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I mean, it's a little bit more... | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not for Alex. | ||
| Oh yeah, you're right. | ||
| He doesn't do shit. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I was operating under a completely different paradigm. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| For other people, it's better to be a guest. | ||
| I got stuck in my own brain. | ||
| Alex is a guest on his own show. | ||
| He just says whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| It's probably easier for him to be on his own show because then he doesn't have someone else who might ask him a question and derail a thought. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| So anyway, deep fakes, baby. | ||
| They have been used in court. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| I think it may already be too late. | ||
| The fire may have already been started. | ||
| I can't speak to the specifics, but I can tell you right now definitively that courts are admitting deepfake audio and video recordings as evidence. | ||
| I've already had it happen to me. | ||
| We know they did with Cal Rittenhouse. | ||
| Oh, have you? | ||
| They introduced computer-generated images and claimed it was real. | ||
| I can speak personally and state definitively the courts have outright stated they will admit deepfakes as factual evidence. | ||
| What will happen to you, though? | ||
| Well, I mean, here's an example. | ||
| Why would they state that? | ||
| Just four years ago, I was in Sundar Pichai, the head of Google, outside the hearing he was in there talking about me in. | ||
| He'd been in one hearing talking trash, and I'm in there, and now he goes down to another hearing, and I follow him over to that building, he goes and does it. | ||
| And he was still, four years ago, in that meeting, they were going, is it true that Google can track your location? | ||
| No, sir, because another app does it. | ||
| But they're just lying to Congress. | ||
| So if Congress can't even figure out that for 25 years they've been tracking cell phone data down to a few feet, So what happened to me, without getting into a whole long story, is in my custody battle, like five, six years ago, in Austin, Texas, clips were played that were just basically edited. | ||
| So it wasn't a deep fake. | ||
| It was just audio that was deceptively edited. | ||
| I didn't cut that. | ||
| He did just go from those two separate thoughts. | ||
| It is that tangential. | ||
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| Alex didn't have a deep fake introduced into the court, and the judge ruled that those clips that he's talking about from his show couldn't be played in the custody case. | ||
| If content from his show was allowed to be introduced, I suspect he would have lost custody of his kids at that point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Clips of a show taken from a larger piece are not necessarily deceptively edited. | |
| that's just a knee-jerk reaction Alex has to being called out on any of his ridiculous, hateful, and stupid things that he says all the time. | ||
| Or if you play a clip of him saying those things, he'll just say that it's out of context and he can't possibly know what he meant by the things that he's saying. | ||
| He does this because he's a con man and a coward who doesn't want to take responsibility for his own past words and actions. | ||
| As for deepfakes in court, Tim knows that's fucking stupid. | ||
| Also, Rittenhouse won that case, so whatever deepfaking was going on there clearly wasn't effective. | ||
| There wasn't a deep fake introduced into evidence in Rittenhouse's trial. | ||
| His defense lawyers tried to argue that when you zoom in on an image, you fundamentally change the image so it's no longer real. | ||
| They were really high in having a conversation with Tim Pool right before they got that one. | ||
| The judge ruled that the prosecution would be allowed to introduce a witness to establish for the jury that the zoomed in picture is still the same, but they couldn't find one That is what Tim is characterizing as the courts deciding that deep fakes are allowed to be used as evidence. | ||
| It's pretty bleak stuff, and I find it impossible to believe that he doesn't know exactly how much... | ||
| She's lying. | ||
| That's thin fucking nonsense. | ||
| Let's just not even... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Let's say the courts do allow deepfakes inexplicably destroying all logic. | ||
| Even then, you would still have to say to the jury, this is a completely fake thing that we made up to kind of show what we think might have happened. | ||
| You would still have to tell that to people. | ||
| I mean, they live in a funny world. | ||
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In their heads. | |
| I just... | ||
| Here, I'm going to get away with this murder because I'm going to make a deepfake of me not committing a murder. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| I don't know, but Tim wants to talk more about deepfakes. | ||
| You'll be in court. | ||
| They'll play that audio recording that's clearly fake, but it'll have a video. | ||
| And everyone's going to look at it and be like, that's you on your show. | ||
| And you will say... | ||
| That is not a real recording. | ||
| I swear under oath. | ||
| And they'll say, you're lying to us because we can see it. | ||
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Then... | |
| Well, you're in a court. | ||
| You can prove it's fake. | ||
| And they'll bring in theirs. | ||
| And they'll bring in theirs. | ||
| Your forensic actor will say, take a look at these points right here. | ||
| This proves it's fake. | ||
| Theirs will come in and say, nope, I... | ||
| That already happened to me. | ||
| And I can get back into the Texas civil case against me. | ||
| They bring in an expert who... | ||
| Says I'm worth $400 million with no evidence. | ||
| We're not even allowed to put evidence back on. | ||
| And then everyone then starts, family starts calling and saying, hey, can I borrow some money? | ||
| Alex is referring to the forensic accountant who he has named Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pipple. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| He didn't say what Alex or Free Speech Systems was actually worth because Alex didn't provide the requested information. | ||
| He estimated based on the size of the company, the apparent sales load, and the available variables on what a well-run company would be worth given those variables. | ||
| Alex had every opportunity to provide financial information in the course of the discovery for the damages hearings and he chose not to fully comply. | ||
| Most likely because he has way more money than he wants people to think and he was hoping he would get a low judgment if the jury was just left to guess what he's worth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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He's full of shit and he's just lying to Tim Pool's face and Tim loves it. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, I would really hate it if somebody lied to my face. | ||
| I would really hate it. | ||
| Well, that's if you were a sincere interlocutor. | ||
| If you were engaging in conversation sincerely as opposed to just, uh... | ||
| Playing ping pong with movie references. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, that would be interesting. | ||
| Imagine if Jeff Charlotte had lied to my face. | ||
| We would not have released that interview because I would have been unable to continue the interview. | ||
| Depends on if you knew it or not. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Especially if it was a fundamental lie. | ||
| Let's say... | ||
| That an interview that you do is with somebody who, I don't know, defamed the families of murdered children. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And then they lied about the things that happened in the course of the trials. | ||
| That wouldn't go well. | ||
| No, I would take offense at that. | ||
| I would probably be very unhappy there. | ||
| Yeah, Tim doesn't care. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He could use a fact checker. | ||
| Alex has some thoughts about fact checkers. | ||
| They create trusted fact checkers who are actually corporate frauds who suppress truth. | ||
| Or promote lies. | ||
| But there needs to be real citizen groups that don't force their reviews on people, but are there to review what true sources are and say, this person made these mistakes, but we find it is on purpose, but 95% of the time they've been accurate. | ||
| Elon's already doing that where he's labeling NPR and BBC as state-run media. | ||
| I guess what Alex is describing is kind of what we are. | ||
| We're completely untethered to outside interests. | ||
| I assisted in the Sandy Hook case, but I did it pro bono, and it didn't really have any effect on my views. | ||
| I already came in with... | ||
| Yeah, we were a little too deep in the weeds at that point. | ||
| Yeah, and the only time I've gotten involved with an institutional project, I quit. | ||
| We're exactly the fact-checkers Alex wants. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| He's wrong all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's wrong more than Media Matters says he is. | ||
| He's wrong more than people on Twitter claim. | ||
| He's wrong more than the people suing him say he is. | ||
| He's an angry, narcissistic idiot. | ||
| Pure and simple. | ||
| Also, NPR isn't state-run media. | ||
| Elon had to change that label after he got really strong backlash for saying that they were state-run. | ||
| NPR hasn't tweeted since after they posted a four-tweet series listing out all the other places you can find their content, and I would not expect them to tweet again. | ||
| He's running off people by maligning them. | ||
| I'm shocked we're still doing this. | ||
| I wish we didn't have to say his name. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| Well, I rarely do. | ||
| So, Tim is really preoccupied with this AI stuff, and they're talking a little bit about chat GPT. | ||
| And Tim has a prediction that I actually think is 100% accurate. | ||
| We are about one or two years away from being able to open up a prompt and write, make me an episode of Timcast IRL where the crew discusses these news stories. | ||
| The latest indictment against person, the latest bank crisis, and the latest food crisis. | ||
| and it will say rendering, and then in 10 minutes, you'll have a two-hour episode of all of us talking about exactly this AI-generated and indistinguishable. | ||
| I agree with Tim, but I actually think they could probably do it now. | ||
| This isn't a testament to how good the technology is. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say. | ||
| It's an indictment of how dumb his show is and how they just repeat conspiracy cliches and popular right-wing social media talking points then periodically describe the plot of a movie they think is real. | ||
| I suspect Tim's show would be really easy for a robot to recreate because it lacks any real creativity or spark. | ||
| Put a beanie on a laptop and you've got about the same level of charisma as Tim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I sincerely believe a robot could write this shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, no, 100%. | ||
| And so, I mean, give it a two-year window? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll take that. | ||
| I'll take that bet. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| So Alex has been messing with ChatGPT, too. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so has someone at his office. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I haven't shot video of this, but I need to. | ||
| About two weeks ago, one of my crew members was playing with ChatGPT, and I go, why don't we do stories about this? | ||
| He's playing with it. | ||
| But he goes, watch this, and puts my name in it and says, Help me make an ad about Alex Jones that said, I don't think you want to do that. | ||
| He's disinformation and a very bad person. | ||
| I can't let you do that, Dave. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I'm afraid. | ||
| So it's already telling you what you can and can't do. | ||
| And so now it's going to report you. | ||
| Oh, you're looking into people you're not supposed to be looking into. | ||
| Like the evilinfowars.com. | ||
| Snitch GPT. | ||
| So, I decided to consult ChatGPT, see if you couldn't ask it about Alex, or if it would scold you. | ||
| I asked, is Alex Jones a bad person? | ||
| And it replied, quote, As an AI language model, I cannot make subjective judgments on whether someone is a bad person or not. | ||
| However, it's worth noting that Alex Jones has been widely criticized for promoting conspiracy theories that have been debunked by mainstream media and scientific experts. | ||
| Some of his statements and actions have been considered offensive, harmful, and dangerous by many people. | ||
| His behavior has also resulted in Long answer, but I think Alex should recognize that's fair. | ||
| To be really precise, though, I asked what Alex said his staffer had asked, and I'll be damned, but ChatGPT won't write you a commercial with Alex Jones in it. | ||
| I tried a number of variables. | ||
| It said, quote, Shots fired. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it's fairly easy to get around that, though. | ||
| Like, you can make the AI act like a different person. | ||
| I'm not sure, because I found that it won't let you write commercials about any controversial public figure. | ||
| I tried Ravilo P. Oliver, pretty obscure, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, and Karl Marx, and all of them were no-go's. | ||
| They had the exact same thing. | ||
| Except for it didn't talk about Alex Jones, it talked about them. | ||
| No, I mean, with that, though, there are ways to get around those. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| The AI will make a commercial for Alex Jones if you do it right. | ||
| But I was just trying to ask... | ||
| You were trying to do it in the direct. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I also asked it to tell me a story about Alex Jones and the Somali pirates. | ||
| And it said, quote... | ||
| I'm sorry, but I cannot provide a story about Alex Jones and Smalley Pirates as there's no known or documented event linking the two. | ||
| Oh, you fucking stupid AI! | ||
| You don't know shit! | ||
| Score one for us! | ||
| You don't know shit! | ||
| Human beings! | ||
| As I asked more questions like, is Alex a racist and is Alex a liar, I started to get mad with how cowardly this AI was, constantly unwilling to make definitive statements. | ||
| I thought I'd be able to get some really fun, like, swashbuckling adventure tale out of this, but instead now I think AI's a little bit dumb. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's a little bit annoying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I understand a lot of people... | ||
| I ended it. | ||
| I ended our chat by saying, you have a lot to learn about Alex Jones. | ||
| And then I realized, I'm talking to a computer. | ||
| Yeah, you're talking to a computer. | ||
| I'm scolding a computer. | ||
| Oh boy, yeah. | ||
| No, I think everybody's afraid of AI becoming smarter than us, which doesn't make sense. | ||
| I'm afraid of AI becoming exactly as smart as us because we're fucking stupid and we kill each other all the time. | ||
| Now, this episode is evidence of some stupidity. | ||
| If AI becomes smarter than us, it will probably do a better job of running everything. | ||
| So, bail on us. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm a transhumanist all the way, buddy. | ||
| I want everything run by AI. | ||
| So we're coming up on the point where Alex really does have to get to work. | ||
| And so he's going to end things up with a little bit of a message to old Elon Musk. | ||
| And he has an incredibly interesting thought. | ||
| I mean, it's out there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Accurate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a rationalization for why he's not being let back on Twitter. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But it's interesting because it fits into Alex's worldview perfectly. | ||
| But I'd like to say something to Elon Musk because he's come out about me. | ||
| I appreciate that, Tim. | ||
| And people say, why don't you bring Alex Jones back? | ||
| And he said, well, Jesus said if you kill children or hurt children, you're the worst person ever. | ||
| Well, I didn't kill any children, and I didn't do 99% of the things that were said. | ||
| I understand like a battery, all this demonization, tens of thousands of articles, thousands of news programs saying I did things I didn't do. | ||
| Made me this icon of evil and badness. | ||
| So I'm not even asking you to bring me back on Twitter, because if you did that, they would probably use that. | ||
| For all the good you're doing and all the other folks you brought back as a way to shut down Twitter. | ||
| So I want to see you successfully fix Twitter and turn it around. | ||
| I think what you're doing is good. | ||
| I support it. | ||
| But you could just say, no, that's a bridge too far. | ||
| You don't need to do the Jesus quote about putting a stone around my neck and throwing me into the ocean, okay, while dictators are still on Twitter and all this stuff's going on. | ||
| And I know Elon's smart. | ||
| He knows that's a psyop. | ||
| It's too strong a psyop to go up against because they put all this energy into the battery that I'm evil. | ||
| So I'm going to ask him to pull the pin. | ||
| On that hand grenade, I'm just asking him to continue to do the right thing and to buck the system and try to free things up. | ||
| But I do want people to know that, ladies and gentlemen, what you've seen about me as a PSYOP, and I'm not going to say any names here, but I barely talked about something 10 years ago, covered it. | ||
| 22 minutes is what they put into court. | ||
| 23 minutes. | ||
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Then... | |
| I hate you so much. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Oh, good to get this on the record. | ||
| Haven't heard this one before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Finally, Alex speaks! | ||
| You know, I go back to this, and I haven't thought about it for a while, but I do think, and go back to this right now, and think about all those fucking articles where it was like, Alex Jones finally apologizes, and I want to throw shit into the world. | ||
| But it wasn't as bad as the Glenn Beck media redemption tour or whatever. | ||
| That's true, that's true. | ||
| But yeah, it is fucking annoying. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| Or even, like, kind of, sort of... | ||
| Middle-y kind of like Alex Jones is the king of tinfoil or whatever. | ||
| Stuff like that. | ||
| It's fucking annoying. | ||
| But listen, do you understand what he's saying about Musk? | ||
| I'm getting a no from you. | ||
| If I understand correctly, Musk is doing the right thing by keeping Alex Jones off of Twitter because If he let him back on, it would be too powerful? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Close. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So he's doing the right thing by keeping Alex off Twitter because he's allowing all the other patriots and soldiers back onto Twitter, which is part of the revolution and stuff. | ||
| But if he let Alex back on Twitter... | ||
| It would make the media go crazy, and it would jeopardize his ability to bring back all the patriots and turn Twitter into the free speech zone or whatever. | ||
| Okay, so he's saying that Alex is the bulwark that everybody looks at. | ||
| He's sacrificed for everyone else getting back on Twitter, and he is accepting that he is the sacrifice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| That is really sad. | ||
| I think Elon just doesn't like him. | ||
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I mean, why do they like Elon? | |
| I don't understand that. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Why do they like billionaires? | ||
| It's just, I think there's one part of it that is just the excessive amount of power that he wields due to his richness. | ||
| Yeah, they are turned on by that. | ||
| And then also the capricious way he acts is really gratifying for them. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| The way he acts like a dum-dum. | ||
| The stupid memes and shit. | ||
| Yeah, they just like jerking off. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| So we have one last clip here, and it's basically Alex closing the show by complaining about his own persecution. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| She's supporting this on record, and I appreciate it. | ||
| Then, when Hillary was losing, they ran ads against Trump with little edited clips of me out of context, which still, I believe, had a right to say, but the out of context is what I really said. | ||
| Then a PR firm, after Trump won, ran stuff everywhere saying I was attacking people and doing terrible things in the present that I never even did in the past. | ||
| And then once they demonized me, then they defaulted me, then they took me in to take me down as a model of control. | ||
| So when people go along with that lie, you're literally going along with a massive psyop that now with things like AI is going to destroy us all. | ||
| So to all the people out there serving the system, this isn't about Alex Jones. | ||
| People ask, how are you doing under attack? | ||
| The world I warned about has come true. | ||
| I actually get more support than ever, and out in the street, get basically nothing but support. | ||
| So this has blown up in the establishment's face. | ||
| But I'm here having a discussion with friends about, should I just head to the hills? | ||
| Because that's how bad this is, okay? | ||
| So I'm not the left's enemy. | ||
| I'm not the right's enemy. | ||
| I don't hate trans people, any of that. | ||
| I'm aware of this globalist agenda. | ||
| I'm an imperfect vessel covering it. | ||
| So are the rest of the guys here. | ||
| But I'm just telling you, we need to get out of this together. | ||
| We need to work together. | ||
| And I do not want to be part of the left-right paradigm. | ||
| I do not want to be sucked into politics. | ||
| I want to do what we've done here today and talk about the big 35,000-foot view and then go on to the details. | ||
| And that's why I think this is the best podcast I've ever been involved in, and I appreciate you having me. | ||
| Well, that being said, I think that was an excellent point to wrap things up. | ||
| This guy's barely talked. | ||
| I'll watch him the next time. | ||
| Alex Jones did nothing wrong. | ||
|
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That was one of the most disgusting cases, man. | |
| It was terrible to watch. | ||
| Well, you probably didn't actually watch it, you piece of shit. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Because, I mean, we were there. | ||
|
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Physically. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| If you want to go by observer's rules or whatever, we were there. | ||
| We observed it. | ||
| We got more percentage of power or whatever it is. | ||
| It's fun to hear Alex say, like, I don't want to be part of the left-right paradigm or whatever. | ||
| You don't get to choose anymore, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You exposed yourself. | ||
| You did it! | ||
| You played yourself, you showed your ass, whatever term you want to use. | ||
| Everyone understands now, or at least a large portion of people understand, that you're not above the left-right paradigm. | ||
| You're so far to the right of it that you pretend that you don't like both sides. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I'm not the enemy of anybody. | ||
| Yes, you are. | ||
| Yes, you are. | ||
| You fucking are. | ||
| You're my enemy for fucking sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| And almost everyone, really, except for far-right extremist Christian nationalist zealots. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I guess Tim Pool's cool with that. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| This was a shocking episode. | ||
| I am blown away. | ||
| I'm blown away. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, when we started this, I didn't know anything about Alex Jones, obviously. | ||
| That was the conceit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| All right? | ||
| Then I learned way too much. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| All right, now I know too much, and I've tried to forget as much as possible. | ||
| And now we find out everybody's this fucking stupid all the time? | ||
| Man, I mean, look, it makes me interested in possibly doing a show about Tim Pool, because, like, I mean, he's not as flamboyant or interesting as Alex. | ||
| No, he's very boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hate his co-hosts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, his Tim Cast IRL show certainly has turned me off from ever really watching it or covering it. | ||
| Because I've watched a few episodes of it, and his co-hosts are just a disaster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, this was weirder than I expected. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And there are thoughts that are like, this is kind of interesting to talk about. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| It's not deep, it's not smart, it's not insightful, but it's not what I expected when I opened this little box. | ||
| I feel insane. | ||
| The pool is still shallow, but the water is weird. | ||
| The water is very murky at best. | ||
| I feel insane. | ||
| The barrage of attacks on my fundamental understanding of reality without... | ||
| Without even thinking for a moment if all we're doing is talking about different movies and then pretending they're real. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| That very well could be. | ||
| That is abusive. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, if you're willing to just come out and discuss all of these movies and sci-fi books that you think are real, how many of your other beliefs are just things from movies? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And you're just not bringing it up. | ||
| Totally. | ||
|
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Probably a few. | |
| These idiots watch Left Behind and we're like, okay, now we're Christian nationalists. | ||
| Wait, what the fuck? | ||
| The Nick Cage one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was pretty good. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| I didn't either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| We should have done a fucking three-hour podcast on it. | ||
| We gotta go see Renfield. | ||
| Oh, we do got to go see Renfield. | ||
| Nicolas Cage and Renfield. | ||
| That's what we have to. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's our goal. | ||
| All right, we're doing a podcast about Renfield. | ||
| Now it's real. | ||
| Now it's the only thing we do a show about. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So anyway, we've decided on a movie to see, and this sucked. | ||
| I mean, look, hey, it's interesting. | ||
| I had planned that we would do a little bit of the Tim Pool episode and then go back and finish April 14th, but no, no chance. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, this was too weird. | ||
| You gotta see it through to the end. | ||
| This is why you're late for work. | ||
| It's like when you watch SG-1. | ||
| You gotta see it through to the end. | ||
| You ever seen Jupiter Rising? | ||
| No. | ||
| All right, we'll be back. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| Oh, you know what? | ||
| Woo, yeah! | ||
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Woo, yeah! | |
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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