I think we're doing something with ourselves, to ourselves, with civilization that we can't really fully appreciate because we're wrapped in it. And it's not until you get to nature where all that weight just gets lifted off of you and you're. Feel more normal, and you're like, Oh, this is where people are supposed to be. Yeah, you know, no phones, there's no nothing, no distractions, and it's just like you all your senses heighten your eyesight, your hearing, your sense of smell like all of that stuff.

But the reality is, if you die in the woods, you get consumed pretty quick.

And just to be out in the woods like that is, it's a, I think it's like a form of vitamin that people haven't recognized yet.

And I hate to say this, but this is a place where Alex and I agree that nature is kind of like a drug and that it is restorative. And it really makes you feel.

Yeah, nature in that form, in its pure form, is like a vitamin, I think. It really is. I think it's an actual good. You know, like you go out in the sun, the sun produces vitamin D. I think there's something that we haven't quantified yet that you're producing, that you get.

Nature does not work in 90-degree angles. You're not going to get wind erosion. Wind is called aeolian erosion. Fluvial erosion is water erosion. You're not going to get 90-degree angles from wind or water.