Okay, so Johnson ⁇ Johnson baby powder, they go to the FDA and they say, we have to tell you something we're a little concerned about. We have found some cancer-causing asbestos in our baby powder, and we're acknowledging it and we want to know what to do.

$15 million for paying kickbacks to health care providers. That's Pfizer. Johnson ⁇ Johnson, who's a really trusted company, to some people, they got fined $5 billion for what I already talked about, which is the baby powder, $4 billion, I'm sorry. And they had to pay out all kinds of court things. But they got a $5 billion fine for multiple states for its role in the opioid crisis. And you can decide if I'm overplaying this because they got deceptive marketing,

Well, not only that, two years ago, Johnson and Johnson separated from Tylenol. Tylenol became its own company.

That article that Alex is referencing is about Johnson Johnson, or JJ, and how their chief scientific officer said he's confident that they could make a vaccine. Alex didn't read this article, hence calling them J and J. He's just reading a headline. There's nothing in that article that talks about them having patented viruses and just mixing them all up. In fact, the article explicitly says, quote, Stoffels, who's the Johnson Johnson chief scientific officer, said that the pharmaceutical company needed to start from scratch on this vaccine, which kind of runs counter to the narrative that Alex is pushing.