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Sept. 30, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:23:49
Joe Rogan Experience #2386 - The Red Clay Strays
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andrew bishop
15:06
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brandon coleman
38:08
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joe rogan
01:20:31
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drew nix
04:32
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jamie vernon
00:36
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unidentified
The Joe Logan Experience.
Train by Day, Joe Rogan podcast by night.
All day.
brandon coleman
Well, I mean, we haven't done many podcasts, but uh we were on Theo's last year, and uh it you know, Theo's gets a lot of engagement, a lot of views, ours didn't do too well.
I think Bert cast it all right.
joe rogan
I you got not pay attention.
I know I don't not pay attention.
Don't pay attention to numbers, don't pay attention to shit.
Don't read the comments.
andrew bishop
That's where I messed up.
I got caught a lesbian so many times.
joe rogan
Mustache.
andrew bishop
Well, he's like he looks like Matthew McCarron.
joe rogan
Well it's it might be the chain.
andrew bishop
Maybe.
joe rogan
That that looks very lesbian-esque.
andrew bishop
Thank you.
joe rogan
Not a bad one.
It's not bad.
It's nothing wrong with being a lesbian.
andrew bishop
No, nothing's wrong with being a lesbian.
I'm just a heterosexual male.
joe rogan
With a wonderful mustache.
brandon coleman
I went back to the comments last night and uh Oh, don't somebody was like, uh, Andrew, come on, man, don't sit with your legs crossed.
That was just the latest one.
andrew bishop
Why why is it always me getting picked on?
joe rogan
Did you sit with your legs crossed in the typical liberal f fashion?
I mean like the Gavin Newsom style.
brandon coleman
Yeah, you can't.
joe rogan
Just chilling.
I was I mean you got a little bit of a gap there.
The thing is if you get the real the the deep scissor, the deep scissor is like signaling.
andrew bishop
The trick is you gotta you gotta scoop then.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew bishop
You gotta get your stuff out the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
Doesn't doesn't seem comfortable.
andrew bishop
I've been doing it for a long time.
joe rogan
So are you g you guys are you were telling me you're kind of burnt right now, so you guys are fully on the road right now.
brandon coleman
Oh yeah.
I say that and then the next moment I'm walking around like, dang, this is fun.
But yeah, which but usually about this time of the year uh where we have a couple more months left.
It's like, man, we're almost done.
Get to be home for a while, more than two days at a time.
joe rogan
How long have you guys been on the road for?
brandon coleman
This year or just in general?
joe rogan
Well, all t all told.
brandon coleman
Uh we started touring in Andrew's Acadia in 2018.
joe rogan
And has it been flat out since then?
brandon coleman
Pretty much.
I mean we'd used a little breaks.
Yeah, we well, I mean, we'd break in December for Christmas.
Um but it's gotten better.
This year we started touring in July, which was good because we usually start um we would usually start in uh April or when did you when did you end?
We end in December.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
That's not too bad.
brandon coleman
No.
andrew bishop
Well, this last year we started in March with Canada.
brandon coleman
Yeah, Canada.
But that was like a month.
That didn't really count.
joe rogan
How long have you guys been together all told?
brandon coleman
We got so we this Red Clay Strays got together uh in December 2016.
But before that, uh Drew was the manager of a cover band and Andrew was the bass player in the cover band.
And um What were you guys covering?
andrew bishop
Everything.
brandon coleman
The good stuff.
drew nix
Yeah, just blues, just like really bad blues.
andrew bishop
Yeah, we used to run people out.
brandon coleman
The country.
joe rogan
And how did you guys all get together?
brandon coleman
Uh I met Drew Um through the a mutual friend.
Uh we were working out in the gym together.
I was in high school, and Drew, um this guy was like, hey man, I'm I got a buddy, he's kind of he's kinda down on his luck, he's like squatting in my dorm, and uh I want to give him something to do.
I want to give him something to do.
drew nix
I didn't think I was down on that down on my luck and designed.
joe rogan
Nobody ever does, man.
Nobody ever does.
unidentified
Dang, dude.
brandon coleman
I'm just repeating what I heard.
And uh yeah, so Drew had never done anything like that.
He had never booked or was he was trying to be a middle school teacher football coach.
That's what he was going to college for.
And um Why Middle School?
drew nix
Uh high school or college, that's what that was the goal.
andrew bishop
I know, but Realistically.
drew nix
Never had That's just where I was gonna land.
brandon coleman
Never done anything in the business though, and he just like I'm what did you say?
He's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do everything I can to help you make it.
And uh I was like eighteen, and he was like twenty-two, twenty-three, and he had us play in and every single bar on the Gulf Coast, and uh we didn't know anything about the business either, so the the manager booking agent fee is you know fifteen percent.
We didn't know about that, so we cut him in evenly.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
brandon coleman
Yeah, and uh so he'd show up and drink beer at our shows and he'd uh he'd always be at our practices and he was fully committed, and so he got it even cut, and he he ended up turning his life around and he was able to scoot around and buy burgers and not be down on your luck anymore.
drew nix
Hallelujah.
brandon coleman
I think that's impressive.
Never done anything like that, and you stepped up and became a legitimate booking agent and a legitimate manager.
drew nix
Yeah, I mean I just saw something I knew that was incredible and I was like Alright, well, what do I need to do to get this guy in front of people?
And I just I would sit in like I worked for the equipment staff at South Alabama and I would sit in the equipment room between washing jock straps and like you know, setting up cones drills or whatever and just like put post it notes up on the wall and just write numbers down and just call all these people until like somebody picked up or like hey, like what's the email for booking or whatever and I just book as much as I could.
joe rogan
So it was basically just learning on the job, trying to figure it out as you go.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
No experience in it whatsoever.
drew nix
No.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's a cool story.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was all just based on your talent.
unidentified
Nah, I mean, it was what you saw, right?
brandon coleman
It was Yeah, that night that night you met the night uh the night we met the night I met you, yeah.
drew nix
Yeah.
I mean, like the first time I heard you on a cell phone recording, I was like, eh.
unidentified
He's okay.
drew nix
And then I heard him in person and I was like, Oh my god, all right.
What what okay, what needs to happen here?
And yeah, I had no idea.
I was I was just fully winging it, you know.
joe rogan
Wow.
Those are the best stories though.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know.
The best stories are not started in some fucking boardroom somewhere where a bunch of guys sit down with headshots and demos and try to put people together.
The best stories happened just kind of like, what?
What were we doing?
Post it notes.
You just called people?
Like those are the best stories.
brandon coleman
We didn't even know how to set up music equipment.
Like we would have our our mains set up behind us and so the microphones would be feeding back into the mains.
We didn't know what we were doing.
We just knew we wanted to play music.
So we'd show up to these bars and most of the time run people out and clear the room out 'cause we were didn't know how to play music that well either.
Guitar amps turned up and we would show up and just ruin people's evening and clear out a bar.
They're trying to watch a football game, and we show up playing Almond Brothers and just the our guitar players just always crank their amps.
We did have uh an old man drummer though, that was the only thing about that band before Red Clay Strays.
Um so that was you didn't have to worry about the drums being too loud, I guess, 'cause he was just doing his thing.
He ended up quitting um when we started traveling more and uh that's when we started holding auditions and we were gonna audition this one guy and he flaked uh he couldn't make the audition.
We rescheduled him and he couldn't make the audition again, and then we were like, How did we get in touch with John?
What when would we audition him?
drew nix
Uh there's a um Ethan uh who was in Papa's medicine cabinet.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
drew nix
Uh I reached out to him and I was like, Man, I I know you play drums.
That was the best band in town at the time.
I was like, I know you play drums, you probably know a good bit of drummers, like you know anybody who could use some work, and uh he uh John was playing at a band called Ryan Dyer Band back home and he said, uh John just they just separated from that band, so uh John's available, you should get him for a tryout and I was like, Hey dude, you want to come play with us or whatever?
And he showed up, Blair and Skinner and uh with him and his brother and like an SUV or something.
brandon coleman
Yeah, we had like this is gonna work.
We had the auditions in uh Sitchinel, Alabama, which is like up in the sticks, and he didn't have a phone.
Um so he was like, uh meet me at the Hardee's at like, you know, six thirty or whatever time it was, because he did we couldn't call him once he left his house.
And uh so Andrew left.
You were driving the fire bread at the time.
You left in the fire bird and and met him and brought him back and we auditioned him then.
And the audition went great.
He showed up was his with his brother who uh played piano and um his brother wasn't trying to join the band, but his brother just played with us and uh just the first song we played, we we tried them out with uh an original that we were working on, which was a terrible song also, but um Yeah.
Andrew and John locked in immediately and just they hit the all the pauses together and I just remember still being blown away by that and just how quickly y'all locked in and um and it still shows today on stage their their chemistry.
They're just they've got some kind of telekinetic thing going on, I think.
andrew bishop
The big thing was coming from that old man drummer and then that's the first time I've ever played with like a a real drummer besides my own dad.
brandon coleman
His name was Ray.
andrew bishop
And me and John, I mean we can we s it's really weird how when we first started, like we can we know a lot when we played in those bars, it was improvised.
You know, we're playing covers, we're not even playing them the right way, and we can hit those pauses without even looking at each other.
Like we just know what each other's gonna do.
So as a bass player, your drummer is your best friend.
Even though we're me and John probably butt heads more than anybody in the band, but that's the relationship.
joe rogan
That is a big part of the problem with a band is that you guys just get on each other's nerves, right?
andrew bishop
Uh I mean, just like any other I mean we're just like brothers.
joe rogan
It's a well it's a group of guys and you're traveling all year round.
andrew bishop
You'll get pissed off at each other for sure.
If if a band says they're not they don't get pissed off, they're lying.
Or they just don't like each other for real.
But you just we just something we actually learned as men were was how to talk about your feelings with each other too.
Because in the early stages it was you know, I had anger issues, I'd just get pissed off real quick.
joe rogan
Was it about the mustache?
andrew bishop
No, I didn't have the mustache yet.
Maybe that's what it was.
I was immature.
I was in.
brandon coleman
You had long hair.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
I didn't talk about my feelings growing up as a kid.
Uh supposedly that's not healthy.
joe rogan
No, that's not good.
andrew bishop
But uh John, you know, he would show up hammered to the bus and I would I just had to learn to to just bite my tongue.
Like you're not gonna change somebody's mind.
Just let them go and talk about it tomorrow.
But we all had things we worked on together.
Like stuff like that.
joe rogan
Well, it's the final product's amazing.
And the new album is really fucking good.
It's coming out in June of next year.
Is that when it's supposed to come out?
brandon coleman
We're shooting for summer of next year.
We don't really know yet.
joe rogan
Um the press thing that I got said June of next year.
I'm like, this should go out now.
andrew bishop
You're probably the only one that's supposed to know that.
joe rogan
Oh really?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, everybody knows now.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
But I mean, we're still working on mixes, hopefully, hopefully June is is gonna be the ticket.
joe rogan
Well, it's really good.
And the final product, we guys are very unique.
You have a very unique sound and it's very fun.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's you know, I know it's gotta be a lot of work.
Whenever I do shows and I show up at a place, and you know, like if I do an arena, it's just me and my friends.
We just have to roll in there and hi.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I see you guys, you got fucking trucks and this that and there's so many fucking people involved, and it's Oh yeah.
Who it's a lot.
There's a lot of moving pieces to keep together.
So for you guys to consistently do it and to bang out amazing music over and over and over again.
It's it says something.
brandon coleman
Yeah, man.
And it we just had to grow together.
I mean, even at that rehearsal, we were like, we got one more rehearsal.
We got one more tryout with the guy who flaked out on us, and John was like, Who is it?
And I was like, uh Travis Patch, and he was like, Oh, you're gonna hire Travis Patch.
But I think Travis Patch, he couldn't make the next tryout two or something.
And it's yeah, all right.
And then that band played for a couple more months and broke up and then we hired Zach and just tried out Zach immediately.
He just came in shredding and um he was always a great guitar player.
And then that's when we became Red Clay Strays.
joe rogan
Who came up with a name?
andrew bishop
My brother.
joe rogan
Oh really?
andrew bishop
Yeah, of all of it's not an interesting story at all.
We get ass all the time.
No, we were at uh just in that first stage of like coming up with a band name is the hardest thing in the world.
And we had nothing really we that we liked.
We had the the dirt the dirt leg trio, Brandon Lane and the Hurricane.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
That's my middle name, Brendan Lane.
andrew bishop
And then he shot that over.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
And I didn't like Red Clay Strays.
I don't think any of us did.
joe rogan
Brandon Lane and the Hurricane sounds good too.
andrew bishop
Yeah, we're only I might have voted on that.
joe rogan
I like that.
But Red Clay's trays is great too.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
You have two great ones to choose from.
brandon coleman
Uh if if I need to start another band, I have it in the chamber.
unidentified
Well about that other time.
joe rogan
God, hopefully not.
It seems like once you got it all together and it's working.
Like, don't fuck that up.
brandon coleman
Yeah, man.
I don't I don't I don't understand why bands break up.
I don't get it.
joe rogan
I don't know how they can stay together.
andrew bishop
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just can't imagine.
brandon coleman
I've had so many Why do you say that?
joe rogan
Well, because of the internal conflicts, because of the traveling, because of the stress.
You know.
It just seems like it's very difficult.
It's very difficult to manage all these different personalities and to to keep everything rolling and keep all the the people happy and make sure that everybody feels appreciated and everybody feels like they're doing their part.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
I think you gotta have your your mindset correct, man.
Um for us it's a God thing.
If you are just chasing worldly things, I guess, and worried about me and how I'm getting done wrong or how you know he's getting on my nerves, and that's what dictates your decisions.
I can see, you know, you're gonna walk away from that because people suck and people are always gonna fail you at the end of the day.
But when you turn it into a I'm not doing this for me, I'm doing this to fulfill my calling that God's giving me.
Um and then it becomes a selfless thing.
You know, he who is greatest among you, let him be your servant is what I'll it's just always pops in my head.
So it's like if I want to make this thing work, how can I serve these guys?
How you know, when we'd have to share a hotel room, we would all all five of us be like, I'll sleep on the floor, no, no, you're good.
You take the bed, I'll sleep on the floor.
We'd have to fight over who gets the floor.
You know what I mean?
And then once it becomes a selfless thing instead of a selfish thing, you're not I don't know, and when everybody shares that mindset, we're all worried about one another.
I don't I don't really see how you could break up.
joe rogan
Well, that's very unusual.
And that sounds fantastic, because that's kind of the opposite of most rock and roll bands.
Like most rock and roll bands, it is all about, you know, the lead singer or the lead guitarist and who's the most famous, who gets the most chicks and who gets the most attention.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
We don't care about anything.
joe rogan
So where did that this mindset start with you?
How did you guys develop this mindset?
Uh is that how you grew up?
brandon coleman
I I grew up um that way.
Yeah, my my mother used to read us the Bible as as children and stuff, so we always grew up knowing about Jesus and everything.
And then so that's pretty much what led me to make the leap, I guess.
You know what I mean?
We I never had parents that were pushing me to go to college or pushing me to do something.
They were just like, have a relationship with God.
That's really the only thing that I got pushed by my parents.
And so um I've always been blessed or cursed with kind of looking at all this as temporary, you know.
Uh what's the point in it kind of thing?
You can't take any of it with you, and there's nothing new other under the sun, it's all chasing wind.
What's the point in all this?
And so that really getting into, well, a creator created you, he created all of this and he put you here for a reason.
Well, if that's the case, what's the reason?
Okay, if this is the reason, then um I'm here I go, God, I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make the leap and I don't know what how it's gonna work out, but I'm gonna just gonna trust you, work hard and trust you, and uh and that's really all we've done.
You know, there's no plan to it.
We get asked quite often how do you make it.
And um I don't just work hard and trust God.
That's that's all that's the only thing that I can ever think to answer with because the shows we've played and the doors we've walked through led to new opportunities, you know, many days, many months, many years down the road that we could have never planned if we've just been just and then you can look back and acknowledge the the stone the stepping stones that he was placing the whole time.
And uh even if it doesn't make sense in the moment, you know, just being able to go back and look at like wow, uh I see I see why that happened now.
I see why we went through that.
I see that's that's just crazy to crazy to go back and look at.
joe rogan
That's very wise for a young person to think that way.
Like how old do you how old do you know?
brandon coleman
Twenty-nine.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're very young.
And when you started, that's even younger.
They're like To be able to think that way at an early age.
There's nothing new under the sun.
Like what's my purpose?
My purpose is to serve, my purpose is to do something with this gift that I've been given, and to follow this path.
unidentified
It's very unusual.
Cool.
joe rogan
I mean, it's great.
It's great.
It's a great example for people.
Because it is a mindset, and that mindset will serve you so much better than the other mindset.
brandon coleman
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
The other mindset of chasing things is how you lead to Elvis on pills.
Yeah.
You know?
It was my favorite Elvis.
brandon coleman
Yeah, dude.
andrew bishop
That was the fun Elvis.
brandon coleman
70s Elvis?
Karate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I love the fake karate.
andrew bishop
Big Elvis.
joe rogan
All the people who play along with it.
brandon coleman
Would you have wanted to spar with Elvis?
unidentified
No.
brandon coleman
Come on, man.
joe rogan
I would have been nice to him.
Yeah, he would have made it.
andrew bishop
I want to see Elvis vers Steven Segal do some stuff.
joe rogan
Well, Steven Segal is legit at Aikido.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, he was like the first American to run a dojo in Japan.
andrew bishop
Dang.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a little legit at he was a leg legit Aikido practitioner.
Now, the benefits and the practicality of Aikido are hotly debated.
It's not really a great martial art as a standalone martial art.
It's really for samurais to fight against someone who has a sword.
So if you lose your sword in combat, you have to understand how to transfer the momentum of energy that someone's attacking you with a sword, you have to be an expert at manipulating their attack and using it against them.
But as a standalone martial arts, not very effective.
andrew bishop
See, I thought he had some of those videos where he was like, he just touched somebody and they would fly across the room.
joe rogan
Not really.
He had videos where guys it was demonstrations.
So guys would run at him with a very specific thing and he would flip them.
Yeah.
But he could fuck you up, you know, if you didn't know what you're doing.
But the problem is if you knew what you're doing, you'd fuck him up.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but he's a big guy.
The th the thing about it is it's just no one back then really knew what the best martial art was, so you chose one and you got really good at it.
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andrew bishop
And now the Dagastanis are taking over.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's grappling, it's been around forever.
andrew bishop
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Wrestling.
But what Elvis was doing was Kempo, Kempo karate with Ed Parker.
And it's pretty clear that he took like a f some classes.
You know, like throws kicks in the air and stuff, but it wasn't very good.
brandon coleman
He wasn't a black belt.
andrew bishop
Did he have a black belt?
unidentified
Yeah.
He had like a seventh degree or some crazy shit.
brandon coleman
See, I I did uh martial arts uh in middle school.
I did Shadok on karate and I loved it.
And a part of me wants to get back into it, but there's a whole Elvis thing.
andrew bishop
He'd never really lead to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is Elvis.
brandon coleman
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
But by the way, back then nobody knew what was legit and what was not legit, like these thrusts, like this they're pretending they could hit him and he doesn't feel it.
One of the my flicking.
This is so crazy.
andrew bishop
Like all this, this is just fucking Brandon on Halloween.
joe rogan
This is fucking nonsense.
brandon coleman
Hey, dude, he was on top of the world.
joe rogan
He was.
Not only was he on top of the world, he was the first guy on top of the world.
That's really the important point.
Is that he went crazy for sure, but everybody goes crazy when you get that famous, and no one had ever been that famous before.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was no guide book for him to follow.
There was no Michael Jackson before him.
There was no Prince.
There was no nobody.
So it's just nobody can handle that kind of fame, especially in the you know, nineteen seventies.
Like nobody knows what was going on.
brandon coleman
Blew up at nineteen, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No way you're gonna be normal.
brandon coleman
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Good luck.
And then you got a an evil manager that's feeding you pills and you're all fucked up and you're stuck in Vegas and he's gambling everything away.
andrew bishop
Yep.
brandon coleman
That's gonna be my manager.
unidentified
Dang.
brandon coleman
We we pick on Cody, you just met him back there.
It's like you're just gonna end up being colonel, bro.
One day.
andrew bishop
The snowman.
brandon coleman
No, we hold each other accountable.
joe rogan
Well, that's good.
At least now uh for famous people, there's a roadmap.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you can kind of see where the pitfalls are.
You can see, oh, that's Brittany Spears Road.
Don't go down there.
You know what I mean?
Like you can see all the the things that people have said.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like you've seen all the different ways that you can ruin your life.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And get caught up in the moment.
And and then also the fact that you're very religious helps a lot because you don't believe the hype.
Right.
Like you believe in higher power.
You believe in something that's bigger and greater than all of us.
If you be believe in that, you you will not get caught in this bizarre mindset that befalls many, many stars where they think they're superior to everyone else.
Because they get treated that way.
That's the reinforcement they get.
Everywhere they go, people are cheering when they see them, people want them to sign things and take selfies with them.
Everybody wants a hug and everybody wants to be your best friend, and you really start to believe because of the the information that you're getting.
The information you're getting is I'm better than everybody else, right?
And if you don't have a lot of personal insight, and if you're not very objective and introspective, you will buy into that and you'll start behaving and believing like that, and then comes the pills.
brandon coleman
Yeah, dude.
andrew bishop
I think stick yourself back up.
I think that's where we benefit from like a solo act is that we have five You have five individuals that are gonna check each other.
We always say the pack will correct.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew bishop
So somebody acting out, you know, we might let you go for a couple days, but then you're gonna wake up and we have a come to Jesus meeting.
You've done that again.
All of us have had that at some point in our careers together.
joe rogan
That's great.
That's very good.
brandon coleman
We always too um just think about what what you were talking about.
Uh we're we're we think we suck.
So like the the feeding into the I'm better than everybody, oh I'm famous.
It's like, well, it's just it's probably downhill from here, you know.
People there's they find new hobbies and new things to like, especially now faster than ever, people's attention spans are so short nowadays, it's like we're on top right now, yeah.
But they'll they'll forget about us.
joe rogan
That's I think it's you're much better off being heavily critical of yourself.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
drew nix
Yeah.
brandon coleman
I think so too.
drew nix
A hundred percent agree.
Yeah.
Like I don't never want to be content with anything I'm doing.
Like I I always will have notes for myself.
Like even after we have like a solid show or something, and like, well, I just missed like ten notes, and it felt like guitar hero in my head, you know, when you're and they start booing you.
That's what happens in my head.
It's like get it together, man.
joe rogan
It's better that way.
I mean, that's gonna force you to constantly work at it, constantly try to get better.
The people that believe that they're the best already, you know, where are you gonna go from there?
andrew bishop
That's exactly how we think.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
What was the moment you knew you made it?
I was like, I don't I don't want to make it.
Once after making it, you know.
I don't want to just be there and make it.
joe rogan
Making it to me is like the film where the people hold hands and walk off in the sunset.
Well, that's a crock of shit.
You gotta wake up in the morning, okay.
What do you want for breakfast?
You know, it's like life goes on.
And this idea that there's gonna be a goal where you're gonna get to a spot someday where you could rest, that's nonsense.
brandon coleman
That's when you die.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Take a day off every now and then, nothing wrong with that.
But this idea that you're gonna get to a place where, well, I made it, it's over.
brandon coleman
Dead for life.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did it.
That's all bullshit.
brandon coleman
Yep.
unidentified
And if you get really, really rich, you want to get really, really, really, really rich.
joe rogan
It never ends.
brandon coleman
Really?
joe rogan
If you if you think like that, yeah.
If that's the thought process of you're just chasing after goals and looking for this one moment where you can say, okay, we did it.
It's never happening.
brandon coleman
Yeah, I kinda uh I say That to people too.
Um just from the outside looking in, you think like if you've never done it before, man, it'd be cool to get a song and a show.
It'd be cool to get a platinum single.
It'd be cool to sell out Red Rocks.
And once you do it, it's like, okay, we did it.
Nothing changed.
It's like you when your birthday comes, did you feel older?
You feel older?
No, I feel the same.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
So I mean it's good to have goals.
joe rogan
It's good to have milestones, but at the end of the day.
I guess the process.
And then the thing that you were talking about, like honoring this gift that you have.
That's what it's all about.
That's what it's all about.
And then recognizing that you're in this very unique position and you you're very fortunate.
And so because of that, you owe it to this gift that you've been given.
And you owe it to the people that love you, the people that come to see you to keep doing your best.
brandon coleman
Well, we do stray to play on our name a little bit.
I think we we do stray a little bit from the industry.
Um a lot of sad people, a lot of depressed people, a lot of people who, you know, were suicidal.
Um so and we make music for that fan base, I guess.
And you're not gonna hear that at like a a country music festival on the beach.
joe rogan
How do you know that about your fans?
brandon coleman
We get messages every day.
andrew bishop
Oh, yeah.
brandon coleman
We um and sometimes they email email our agents and stuff.
We had one lady who sent us an email saying uh she decided to off herself, take a lot of pills and she wanted to go to sleep listening to music while um as she was laying there waiting to take the big nap.
Um our song I'm still fine came on and it kind of you know snapped her out of it a little bit and she started crying and immediately regretted it and got up and called her sister and told her sister what she had just did and they rushed her to the hospital and did whatever at the hospital for someone who takes a lot of pills at once and saved her life pretty much and uh she's yeah, it's so moving.
And um that's what really makes it worth it for us because touring is a lot, touring sucks a lot of the times.
And if we were just doing it to be popular or to be famous or to be relevant, make money.
I I don't think it that's enough to keep me going because being on the road is very hard.
What what keeps us going is those stories and seeing how our music at our at the concert seeing how our music affects people uh and helps them in a positive way.
And so I don't know, that's that's just where we get our fulfillment from.
joe rogan
What do you think is about your music that appeals to people that aren't feeling good?
brandon coleman
A lot of it came from us not feeling good.
Uh Drew and my brother Matthew are the main writers for the band.
And um uh, you know, they just our song Drowning, Drew wrote that during COVID when we were driving for Uber, trying to keep the bills paid.
We were my goal was to make a hundred bucks a day for Uber and uh driving for Uber Mobile Alabama sucks.
Uh I'd have to do like twelve, fourteen hours a day to get that in the middle.
Yeah, and then most of the time spend So that was just five years ago.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
And we were locally famous at the time, so I was picking up people and they were like, oh my God, Rick Lay Strays.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Really?
drew nix
I don't want to talk about it.
andrew bishop
Make sure to leave a tip.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brandon coleman
I picked up like and I I was driving a Hyundai Sonata and I had to I picked up like five black dudes, they wanted to get in the Hyundai Sonata to go to the stripper club.
And I was like, you can't like all five of y'all can't fit in here.
I can only take like four at the most.
So they had to leave one behind.
And I had to take them like thirty minutes across town.
Um that's what Mobile is.
Everything is like a thirty minute drive.
And so I took them 30 minutes across town to the stripper club.
There's some very interesting people at nighttime who get Ubers, just so you know.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they probably want to talk to you.
brandon coleman
Sometimes.
The worst was people with bad B.O. Oh.
andrew bishop
Get in your car with bad BO.
joe rogan
And then leave it.
I'm like a leave that smell in your car.
brandon coleman
I'm like a germ freak.
joe rogan
So Are you really?
brandon coleman
Sometimes, yeah.
And especially with smells.
I can't get like a a fresh air.
I feel like I'm suffocating.
And this frat guy got in my car one time and he's he was something.
And he was going to Lowe's to get something for a beer pong table.
He was getting ready to have a frat party, and I had to drive him to Lowe's.
And he smelled like he had never taken a shower.
And so I was just trying not to freak out.
I was just like, what do you mean like that?
unidentified
Damn, was that bad?
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Yeah, for sure.
And I was sweating by the time he got out of the car.
drew nix
Dry heaving up front.
andrew bishop
Driving 100 miles an hour to get him out the car.
brandon coleman
I'd pick some people up.
Oh, people just put too much faith in Uber drivers.
I'd pick up people from the hospital.
I picked up a blind lady from the hospital.
That's what they do if they don't have any family.
They'll call them.
They'll get them an Uber.
And I had to help this blind lady get into her house.
I picked up this one guy fresh out of surgery.
He couldn't walk.
I had to get him in my car.
And they got him a hotel, I guess.
So I had to take him to the hotel.
And I had to carry him out of my car and get him in his bed.
And I was just thinking, what if this wasn't me?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What if it was an 80-pound lady?
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
Or just somebody who didn't even care.
Get out of my car.
You know?
that's just that kind of blew my mind a little bit how much faith hospitals put in Uber drivers is very sad.
joe rogan
Well one thing I found out during COVID that it sounds so stupid that I didn't know this but hospitals are private businesses.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I used to this is how naive I was I was like well doctors they go to universities they do it so that they can become the best doctor they can and then they work for these hospitals that are set up so that all the people in the city have medical care and this is like part of the city services.
I I really believe that I really thought that and then I have some friends that are doctors and they would tell me no no no not only that you're incentivized you're incentivized to push certain medications you're incentivized to do surgeries that maybe people don't need and you have to challenge your own ethics because you you'll be talked into doing surgeries that this guy you could kinda could justify it but really he shouldn't get it.
I'm like oh fuck man really and then you know I've had friends that left and started their own practices because of this because they tell you like you just at the end of the day like why did I go to school?
Like I thought I was going to school because I wanted to learn medicine because I thought that would be really fascinating way to make a living and very rewarding you're helping people that are injured that are sick and then he got just enlightened to like what the business really is it's just about numbers.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got sick.
brandon coleman
Instagram reels will scare you too with all that stuff.
joe rogan
Oh dude I went down a rabbit hole last night just sitting in my bed I shouldn't have done this.
It was like nine o'clock there's no reason for me to look at dick lengthening videos what it just popped up on Instagram you know in like the for you section.
Yeah dude stay away from that for you I didn't ask for it I don't know what happened how many readers did you watch at the end oh I watched a lot of them I watched hours worth of it's fucking horrific man.
It's not just that man it's like they're these guys are getting these things put in their dick so that the dicks are thicker oh my God see the thing about YouTube is YouTube you want to see some videos?
andrew bishop
Yeah might as well we're here.
joe rogan
So I mean I'll pull up my history YouTube can actually so the thing is this guy was like go to my YouTube video and you can see the actual surgeries I'm like no fucking way.
And yeah fucking way YouTube will actually show you the surgery.
andrew bishop
We can't show any of this on camera right Jamie I'm not going to like it's educational purpose but these dudes are just digging they're just digging in dicks and and it was just horrific all right you know once you get on that dark side of uh of Instagram usually it's when Brandon sends me reels Brandon always be finding himself on that bad part and then he sends it to me and then I'm 30 minutes deep into feeling uncomfortable with my life.
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And it's just and so in YouTube, because it's medical, they can show you.
So the guy just drops his shorts.
I'm like, no, fuck.
And this guy's got this Franken penis and with like by the way, he's got the head of a little dick, but the body of a giant dick.
So it's like, you know, like they they took a guy who's like got a little tiny body and they popped his head off and put it on a bodybuilder's body.
unidentified
How do you deal with that on a daily basis?
joe rogan
Well, this fellow seems like he was getting a lot of play.
Um dude.
He was in the rainbow community.
And uh it seemed like he was just slinging that dick all over town and quite happy that it never got soft.
brandon coleman
Quite literally laying pipe.
joe rogan
Yeah, literally.
Literally piping.
jamie vernon
Oh, Jesus.
unidentified
That's a banana.
Okay, all right.
jamie vernon
They're showing how they do it with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, this what is this one?
andrew bishop
This is girth.
joe rogan
This is a fat injection, and this guy was put he was dismissing fat injections, like fat injections are nonsense.
andrew bishop
All right.
joe rogan
You need the plastic.
brandon coleman
I think I would pass out.
andrew bishop
You wouldn't even need to do it.
brandon coleman
Yeah, you wouldn't need anesthesia on me.
I'd pass out.
jamie vernon
Well, that's our excuse.
joe rogan
And then one guy they installed.
Oh, that's crazy.
Well, they they break their legs and they stretch it out.
There's a guy that I've been watching.
What is it?
Brian the Sasquatch.
Is that that's his new Instagram?
The guy was already six feet tall, but he wanted to be six foot six, and he's a gigantic dude, like built like a brick shit house.
And he got his legs stretched out like a year and a half ago, and he still hasn't recovered.
brandon coleman
Yeah, imagine not.
joe rogan
Well, you're your mechanics are all off.
So if you were an athlete and you're used to having a legs of a six foot man, and now your legs have grown six inches, like you're your arms aren't gonna be proportionate either.
Well, he had very long arms.
Uh unusually long arms.
andrew bishop
So does it look proportional?
joe rogan
Totally looks normal.
Looks like he's just a giant dude.
For him.
But for other people, yeah, it looks fucking weird.
This is the guy.
So this is him trying to jump ropes now.
unidentified
Oh wow.
joe rogan
It's like he could barely walk.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
But look at the size of this motherfucker.
So he's got kind of like this is him now.
brandon coleman
His knees aren't even.
joe rogan
No, he's all messed up.
Like that's why he's got leaked knee braces on.
I'm sure his knees are super confused.
Like he can barely walk.
brandon coleman
What are we doing to ourselves?
andrew bishop
I mean, you think eventually you would you would get the the strength in the right places.
joe rogan
Eventually.
There's a guy we looked up this one guy who did it.
Remember that one guy who is running those uh athletic drills.
jamie vernon
Sprinting.
joe rogan
But he was doing sprinting and plyometrics.
Some people have to do it, but I don't think he gained six inches.
This guy gained like half a foot.
Look, they're gonna get to the point where with CRISPR, they're just gonna edit your genes and there's gonna be no normal looking people anymore.
Like all the interesting personality quirks that you have to develop because you got a weird chin, like all that shit's gonna go away.
brandon coleman
It's getting weird, man.
drew nix
They're trying to get rid of Down syndrome.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well probably a good idea.
andrew bishop
That wouldn't be terrible.
joe rogan
Listen, I mean, there's nothing wrong.
It's they're sweet people.
You know, my friend Shane, he's got family members that are down syndrome, and he loves them very dearly.
But if you could do that and they could be normal functioning members of society, that would be a better thing.
brandon coleman
Delete that gene, yeah.
andrew bishop
Yeah, manipulate it.
joe rogan
They're gonna be able to do that.
They're gonna be able to do a lot of things.
andrew bishop
Then we're gonna be birthing super babies once they like it all uh the things usually always seem like they start good and then they go really bad.
And then we're creating superhumans in the womb.
joe rogan
We're at the cusp of some really really wild shit with AI and with genetic engineering and uh China they're I'll heard I've read something where they can like they're trying to grow babies in an artificial womb now.
andrew bishop
See, that's where that's where ethics gets a little weird, because then you're playing you're playing God then.
joe rogan
Well, there's something that happens, it's communication between the mother and the child through the entire time.
So are you giving birth to a fucking sociopath?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
andrew bishop
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because like this this baby is not gonna get any love, no oxytocin, there's nothing from the mother, there's no bond with the mother.
When the mother's stressed, the baby feels stressed.
brandon coleman
Some of the mother's brain, something from their brain like goes into the baby.
joe rogan
One hundred percent.
There's there's a lot going there's communication.
This is why like the mother has to like be up on her nutrients because the baby's like taking nutrients from the mother, and if the the mother doesn't have enough, the baby is taking it from the mother, so it's like an artificial womb is like you're you're opening the door for Satan.
Like if you believe in in that, like if you want a soulless, bizarrely unempathetic person, what better way that's no connection.
You know, that was what ha one of the things that happened to the unibomber.
The unibomber, I watched the Netflix documentary on him, and one of the things that happened to him when he was young, he had some sort of a disease where he had to be separated from his mom, and they put him in a hospital with no contact.
He had no for a prolonged period of time as a baby.
No one picked him up, no one held him, no nothing for a long, long time.
And then that wasn't fucked up enough.
They entered in him into the Harvard L SD studies.
And then so he was in the Harvard L SD studies and he was they were this is during the MK Ultra period.
So the MK Ultra period, they were doing all sorts of experiments with people through the CIA.
One of the things they were doing was a thing called Operation Midnight Climax, where they were they opened up brothels in San Francisco, and they would uh put two-way mirrors in and they would dose these Johns up with LSD.
So the ladies of the night were actually working for the CIA and they would go in here, have a drink, and the guy would have a drink, and then next thing you know, he's like, whoa.
brandon coleman
Wow.
joe rogan
And they were just trying to experiment and see.
It was also a part of what the Charles Manson family was about, and they were doing all kinds of shit with people where they're trying to figure out what can we do to humans if we can manipulate them with L S D, and they did it to Kaczynski.
And we saw what happened with him.
andrew bishop
And Tuskegee, Alabama with the syphilis back in the day.
joe rogan
Well, that was even more evil.
andrew bishop
That was even what would kinda happen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Well, it's still like human experimenting with without them knowing.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew bishop
It's a very scary situation.
joe rogan
Well, it's just goes back to what we were talking about with medicine.
That there are people that are willing To do things to people that are just entirely evil for profit, for whatever justification they can come up with.
brandon coleman
No value for human life.
joe rogan
None.
None.
And I think one of the problems with doctors, and uh my friend who's a doctor t told me this is like you just get numb when you see too many people die.
He's like it's a very it's a very dangerous state of mind because you just see someone, you're like, well, he's gonna die, and then you go have a sandwich.
brandon coleman
We're getting numb as a society of seeing people die.
joe rogan
Well, the Charlie Kirk thing fucking opened up my eyes.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
I I never expected so many people would celebrate that man's murder.
brandon coleman
That is evil.
joe rogan
That's bizarre.
Like normal people that I think think they're good people, and they think they genuinely think that guy was a bad guy.
And I don't think they're right, and I think they were indoctrinated.
And I I don't agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said or did.
brandon coleman
I don't care if he was a bad guy or not.
joe rogan
He's not a bad guy.
brandon coleman
I don't want to see him I don't want to see anybody die.
joe rogan
First of all, he's fucking your age, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a young guy, right?
And he you know would go around to college campuses and have arguments with people or have discussions with people, have debates with people.
But it infuriated p people because they felt like this guy is going against the progress that was being made in society.
But what he did not feel like was progress.
Like it was a progressive agenda that was being pushed in most college campuses.
It's a leftist Marxist sort of agenda.
He didn't feel like that was the correct way to live, and he felt like he had arguments against it and he won and it was you know, it's a business too, right?
Like he developed this big social media platform because of it.
And I you know, I don't like I said, I don't agree.
I don't think he some of the things he said he should have said.
But the fact that people were cheering when he died, normal people, housewives, moms, like fucking people working at banks, people working at various industries, celebrating a man getting shot in front of his kids.
In front of the whole world.
brandon coleman
That's evil.
joe rogan
What the fuck is wrong with us?
brandon coleman
Yeah, that's that's evil.
Um I don't know.
That kind of I think it it really it made me feel extra weird too because it was an innocent man.
I'll give some leniency, you know, maybe uh they're doing a public execution of like a a mass murderer or a child rapist.
You know, something like that.
But the seeing an innocent man trying to have a conversation get shot in front of his kids.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
And people celebrate that, it made me feel uh made me feel a certain way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was it was not justice.
But I think people are poisoned by social media.
I really, really firmly believe that.
I think I think social media has people completely twisted, and I think a lot of what has people completely twisted is not even organic.
I think it's all on purpose that you're being manipulated by foreign governments, by bot farms, and by various elements, either in our government or other governments, and they do it for their own agenda for their own ends, and it's dark.
brandon coleman
There's a proverbs verse that um it's I can't remember where it's at, but it's like he who doesn't find me harms himself, and uh he who loves death hates me.
And that, you know, this if you love God and you you you can't love death.
You can't love somebody getting killed.
unidentified
Right.
brandon coleman
That's just there's the line right there.
There's evil and good right there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
And so there's there's no justification for that.
And we actually because I we've always made a point in the band to not get political.
We don't care what your politics are.
We just come listen to our music and come have fun at our show.
We don't care.
Every one of us in the band originally, we all have different views politically and religiously in some type of way.
But we managed to be brothers and you know, be in a band together.
So we I've just gotten and I love a good political talk, but lately I've just been so jaded from it.
So I don't want to ever like divide my fan base or anything.
You know, how you vote or how you believe is none of my business.
We are here to entertain you.
And uh so I'd never want to use my platform to do that.
But we're just uh uh we got so sick of seeing people put politics above humanity.
We actually we had wrote a song about it um in April in the studio uh called People Hatin.
And that's we wouldn't gonna put it out as a single at first we were gonna do another s another song, but after the the Charlie Kirk thing, it's just like, hey yeah, we got together and we were like I think we need to put people hating out instead for the first single because it's just we we've gotta start we've gotta stop killing each other over beliefs and stop hating each other over beliefs, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking insane.
brandon coleman
Everybody's race is different, everybody's experiencing life different and everybody's trying to figure it out the same as you are.
And it's just really weird now.
joe rogan
It's really weird and it's celebrated to hate people.
And that's that's the weird part.
And most of us know that that's wrong.
And that's why like when this Charlie Kirk thing happens, there's a giant blowback, and most people recognize like, hey, the as a collectively, as as a society, this is not right.
Regardless of whoever that person is, whether that person's on the left or the right, they just got shot in front of the whole world.
This is it's not a thing to celebrate ever.
And especially when you're seeing people on the left that are supposed to be progressives.
These are supposed to be the kind, compassionate, inclusive people that are celebrating gun violence.
Public execution.
Like that's insane.
That's the that's in a public assassination.
That's insane.
brandon coleman
Yeah, I mean you can't you can't be for you can't be against guns and then celebrate when someone is killed by a gun.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
But that's that hypocrisy is just a symptom of where we find ourselves where we're all just so many of us are confused because of the rhetoric online.
And again, a lot of that's not normal.
It's not organic, it's not real, it's not real people, and it's not what you would ever get in real social circles of healthy people.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're only getting it through this very bizarre filter of just text on social media and videos where someone's just talking to the camera celebrating on social media.
It's like it's very strange.
brandon coleman
Most of the time you walk around because we travel all over the place, and most of the time when you walk around, stop watching the news, get off your phone and just walk around in society.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
It's really really not that bad.
joe rogan
It's not that bad.
And it that is the key, but most people are not gonna get off their phone.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what's fucked.
Most people most people are just fully hooked on that damn thing.
brandon coleman
You think it's weird now, wait till all these uh wait till all these iPhone babies grow up and all these tablet babies grow up.
Yeah, yeah.
You've seen the videos of taking the tablets away and the babies are like freaking out and having withdrawals and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, they're being raised with it.
andrew bishop
Our generation was probably the the last to not have I mean, we didn't have technology growing up.
We had dial up internet and we didn't get that until I was, you know, through middle school.
brandon coleman
I didn't have a smartphone until I was sixteen.
joe rogan
Well, you still have an Android.
brandon coleman
Yeah, dude, but that's better.
andrew bishop
All right, buddy.
joe rogan
Why why are you an Android guy?
brandon coleman
I've always been an Android guy because I was I'll give you some.
I was we we didn't grow up rich, so that's my argument.
andrew bishop
Just to play around that.
brandon coleman
Yeah, we couldn't afford iPhones and neither I really didn't care.
I didn't even know what an iPhone was.
I just got whatever phone I could buy.
joe rogan
Text people.
brandon coleman
My dad got me the I mean my my parents got me the uh you know the little sidekick and stuff.
So I've always been on the Android side and then when I started working as a teenager, I I saved up and I bought my own like smartphone from one of those uh cell phone shops on like a in the strip mall.
And uh it's just it was Android.
I never I never really got into the I never cared, first of all, what p phone people have.
It's you guys who care.
andrew bishop
Oh my god, this is I have both.
joe rogan
But it it is a w it's a weird thing in our society where if a kid has uh an Android phone, they're looked down on and it's like something like eighty plus percent of kids have iPhones.
brandon coleman
Man, I was it was after a show one time.
It was after show one time, a long time ago.
And I was talking to this girl, this is like way back in the day, and uh she's like, Yeah, well maybe we get your number.
And then I pulled out my phone, she's like, Oh, you have an Android?
I just walked off.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Just walked off.
joe rogan
I don't She didn't like you anymore.
brandon coleman
Green bubble.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was actually crazy.
brandon coleman
Yeah, that's weird.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
It's weird.
It's weird, but it's like it just shows you how easy people fall into tribes.
Yeah, you know.
andrew bishop
Over anything.
brandon coleman
Well, we were just talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
andrew bishop
Even down to the to phone.
If you have something different than somebody, they automatically don't like you.
It can be politics, it can be the dang phone in your pocket.
joe rogan
Yep.
brandon coleman
When the iPhone babies grow up, they're gonna be killing each other over phones.
andrew bishop
What about the Android babies?
brandon coleman
Is this we just want to be left alone, man?
andrew bishop
See, this there's the identity.
joe rogan
It's a rebels phone.
andrew bishop
Oh, a rebels phone.
joe rogan
If you choose it, if you choose it, it's a rebels phone.
If if y it chooses you, it's like one day I want to get a fucking iPhone.
Like, Get out of this job.
I'm gonna get a real job and I'm gonna get an iPhone.
But the people that choose it, they're they're the rebels.
andrew bishop
I'm glad I married an iPhone user, I'll tell you that.
I'm glad my wife has an iPhone and we can send cool emojis.
brandon coleman
See you say that.
I married an iPhone user.
And I don't care if she has an iPhone.
That's you're you're glad that you married an iPhone user.
I don't care that I married an iPhone user.
I love her anyway.
joe rogan
It feels like you're trying to be superior over him now.
andrew bishop
Exactly.
joe rogan
By virtue of calling Brennan's just like calling out your superiority complex, he's being superior.
brandon coleman
Just can't win with these people.
andrew bishop
Yeah, now he's playing now.
He's playing victim.
brandon coleman
He wants to say it's an American company, but they're made in China.
andrew bishop
Well, the owner, Tim uh, what's his name?
He is from He is from where we are from.
I'm supporting a local.
Now, has he ever put an Apple store in Mobile Alabama?
Absolutely not.
Do we deserve one?
Probably not.
brandon coleman
It'll get robbed, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Maybe the phone the phones should be made in America one day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew bishop
But American company.
joe rogan
Well, if they made an American I always said that if they made an American phone that had like a little American flag on the back, but it cost two hundred dollars more, I would buy it.
brandon coleman
Yeah, me too.
andrew bishop
Who do you think is gonna make it?
joe rogan
Well, it would have to be a company that starts but i the problem is that the goal of doing that is a long goal.
Like you would have to develop the chips.
You'd have to have a plant.
Like Samsung tried to put in a they were putting uh a microchip plant in Texas and they had giant issues because they weren't getting enough.
Like so the all of them don't meet their standards, you know, and a certain percentage of them weren't, and it was a much lower standard than they needed.
And so it didn't work out.
It's like and you're spending billions and billions of dollars to find out that you can't do it.
So in China, they've got that shit perfected.
They've been doing it for so long because we've relied on them for so long.
andrew bishop
Well, don't they have their own phone as well?
joe rogan
Oh, they have a lot of phones.
Well, Huawei, because they were banned here, so Google and uh Apple wouldn't let them use their operating systems because it's basically a spy device.
But guess what?
Oh are all of them.
If you're hanging around with me, your fucking phone's bugged.
Yeah, I don't know.
andrew bishop
That's something that's always been something that does not bother me personally.
I don't have anything to hide, first of all.
brandon coleman
What about your DMs?
joe rogan
It's not the problem is not we send it to you.
The problem is not you having something to hide.
The problem is no one should have access to your private information.
Whether or not it's it's you know, bad.
It does that shouldn't mean anything.
No one should have access.
andrew bishop
No, they should not.
joe rogan
Because it's an individual.
No individual should be able to look at your phone, you can't look at theirs.
It's it's a power thing.
andrew bishop
And controls are you can guarantee the government's got everything.
joe rogan
Oh, it's not just the government, it's other foreign governments, especially if you're a controversial person.
Like foreign governments, there's a thing called Pegasus too.
All they need is your phone number.
That's all they need.
So if you're not using encrypted apps, all they need is your phone number.
And even if you are using encrypted apps, the government can get into those.
You know, when Tucker Carlson was trying to interview Putin, the government contacted him and said, We know you're trying to interview Putin.
We were looking into your signal app, and he's like, What?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You can read my fucking signal app?
Yeah.
brandon coleman
So it's just like the government saying back off China, spying on Americans is our job.
joe rogan
Well, because of the Patriot Act and because of a lot of other things that they've passed in this country, a lot of it's legal.
They're allowed to.
They're allowed to spy on you.
andrew bishop
I think they would can make it illegal and we still wouldn't know.
joe rogan
Well, it probably would be illegal, but it wouldn't matter.
They would find some sort of a fucking loophole.
And or they'd pass some bill, they'd stick it in some farm bill, something.
We think like, oh, this is good, we're gonna help the farmers.
And you look in there like, hey, what's this doing in there?
brandon coleman
Yeah, I see there's some stuff in the in the big beautiful bill where it's like they were trying to sell some national parkland or something.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yes, they were trying to sell public land.
That was a part of the big beautiful bill.
Yeah.
I was one of the people that was trying very hard to try to get that out of there.
brandon coleman
I remember that.
joe rogan
It's fucking sick.
brandon coleman
I thought that was illegal.
andrew bishop
It should be foreign countries.
joe rogan
It should be.
They're trying to change laws.
That's a thing.
Like foreign countries owning land around military bases.
That's crazy.
brandon coleman
That's weird too.
andrew bishop
Where was yeah, why is That happening.
joe rogan
You can't do that in China.
Meanwhile, China owns land around military bases.
Yeah.
There's a lot of stupidity with our freedom.
But that doesn't mean the government should be fucking spying on you.
The thing is, in other countries, they just are.
Like in China, they just are.
And you know, and the argument is if we want to compete with China, we have to do what they're doing, which I think is insane.
andrew bishop
Aren't they about to start or they already have the social point system?
joe rogan
Social credit score.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Social credit score.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So if you jaywalk and they get a photo of your face, so they have biometrics, they get a photo of your face, they know it's you.
You think it's ding.
Now you can't buy a plane ticket.
brandon coleman
Black mirror stuff, dude.
andrew bishop
Yeah, oh, it's just like that.
joe rogan
Well, they're passing that in the UK right now.
In the UK, you need a digital ID.
To combat, ready for it?
Illegal immigration.
Well, motherfucker, you let the illegal immigrants in on purpose.
Like you guys knew what you were doing, and now you're using it as a justification for digital ID.
andrew bishop
I just watched one this morning actually about it was a British judge, a guy got sentenced for however many years for a twenty months.
Sociales for a social media post.
It was about immigration.
It's good.
joe rogan
Complaining about immigration.
andrew bishop
It's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's wild.
It's crazy.
And you know, it's the best way to control people, you know, and keep them at each other's throats.
Like bring in a bunch of people that the people that live there don't want there and let them duke it out and then start instituting tighter and tighter restrictions and control.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
I see.
I see all that happening, and uh and it always makes me wonder.
I wonder how it's gonna go down here, because we are the different ones with the with the guns and stuff.
I wonder how far it's gonna go here before something happens, something pops off.
joe rogan
They're gonna try.
Yeah, you know that you're they're gonna try and they're gonna keep keep trying.
They're gonna continue to try and they're gonna try to sneak it in, and if it's not for independent journalists that call that shit out, we would be in real trouble.
It would have already happened.
It would already happen.
They would have put it they were trying to institute a vaccine passport, and the vaccine passport would be attached to a digital ID so that you would know.
But that digital ID would then be transferred to a social credit score.
And and then they wanted to do a carbon tax.
So they want to do uh a thing that tracks your carbon.
So it tracks how many miles you drive, tracks your purchases, so it tracks how much carbon you're com you're com commit can com you're contributing to the environment.
It's it's crazy.
brandon coleman
And somehow paying more money will will stop that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's what we need to do.
You just need to tax people more.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tax people more, and it's all gonna come and make normal in the end.
It'll be perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Utopia.
brandon coleman
Farmer with cows, you gotta pay taxes on those cows because they're farting.
joe rogan
Well, how about in other countries, they're killing cows.
They're they're forcing them to kill cows because this cows are producing too much methane.
So they're saying you have to kill two thousand cows, a thousand food.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they control your food.
That's exactly what it is.
brandon coleman
I remember when all those uh those uh chicken farms or chicken houses burnt down a couple years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
That was really weird too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's real weird.
But the chickens chicken houses do burn down.
What's also weird is they they had to kill a bunch of chickens because some of these chickens had bird flu.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Well, hopefully that's true.
There was uh a couple of years ago.
This one farmer posted a video like all of his cattle were just dead in the field.
In the field, and they they said it was because of the heat or something, but this farmer had just tons of dead cows just all of a sudden.
It was going on the same time as the the chicken houses burning down, so it could have just been, you know, news adding on to news kind of thing.
This is what's in right now.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Maybe it's aliens.
brandon coleman
Yeah, maybe so.
joe rogan
Cattle mutilations.
brandon coleman
Well, the alien thing is just another interesting topic.
Like you see, you I'll get random there's random times where people are seeing all these crazy things in the sky, and uh it's like a big deal for a few days, and then you don't really talk about it anymore.
Did you see the that one thing that lady was filming, she was like, Hi, do you know Jesus?
And the wheels were like going crazy.
joe rogan
No, what is that?
It's like a it's also hard to know what's real.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
brandon coleman
Yeah, see and it the interesting thing about that though, it is it somebody in the Bible described seeing something uh one of the angels or something.
joe rogan
Ezekiel.
brandon coleman
Yeah, and uh the wheels on the wheel.
joe rogan
Wheel within a wheel.
brandon coleman
That's what this thing was, and she's like, Do you know Jesus?
And then it's the wheels would just start spinning really, really fast.
I was like, whoa, man, I hope that's real.
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Oh man, uh is this it?
brandon coleman
Yeah.
unidentified
That looks like a rocket.
She zooms in on an orb and speaks to it.
joe rogan
She says, Jesus loves me.
She's definitely have an android.
unidentified
Look how fucking she is.
andrew bishop
It's gonna it's gonna turn into the moon here in a second.
Watch.
joe rogan
Well that's the thing.
If you zoom in on stuff, it especially stuff through the atmosphere.
Things look very blurry.
Like if you zoom in on stars, they totally look like there's some sort of a fucking spaceship.
brandon coleman
It's just a star.
She said when she says, Do you know Jesus?
It starts like uh starts moving.
I think it's towards the end, but yeah, you get the idea.
unidentified
It's just that looks like a weather balloon.
andrew bishop
Maybe it's one of them Chinese spy balloons.
joe rogan
Wait, wait, play that, let me hear her say it.
unidentified
Jesus loves me.
Look, look, look, look.
brandon coleman
Look.
unidentified
Oh, you know Jesus.
brandon coleman
You know Jesus.
unidentified
You know Jesus.
Jesus is awesome, isn't he?
brandon coleman
Yeah, Jesus rocked.
But if that is real, dude.
And that random ladies is filming that.
joe rogan
Well, that is the weirdness of the people that think that they can call these things in.
So there's a a group of people that supposedly successfully they sit out and they have this intention.
They go out into the desert in a clear night sky and they have this intention to call these things in.
And they're all silently calling these things in.
And apparently it's effective.
Occasionally, I don't know how often, but it's not zero.
Sometimes these things show up.
brandon coleman
Who's that guy?
He was on Sean Ryan.
Um Chris something.
Uh but he people like celebrities go out to his land, and he's like, I can call these things on command, they'll show up, and people go out to see it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Um I don't know about all that.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
brandon coleman
You should go to you should go there.
andrew bishop
Investigate.
joe rogan
I don't want to.
andrew bishop
People will trust what you say.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the problem is I don't know what I'm seeing.
brandon coleman
But don't tell anybody, just go out for yourself.
joe rogan
The thing is, like you don't know what you're seeing.
It could be a b it could be a drone, it could be anything.
Yeah, it could be fucking Starlink.
andrew bishop
This guy's the pay to go do it.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brandon coleman
I can't remember that guy's name's driving me crazy, but yeah, he uh he wrote a book called UFOs of God.
And uh I started listening to it, and I'm just terrible about reading books and stuff, so I I got like the first three chapters in, but it was really interesting.
Um he's worked with he's NASA showed up at his house.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Chris Bledsoe.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
I watched his uh Sean Ryan, I think the guy's name is.
I watched his podcast.
It was an interesting lesson.
joe rogan
And so th this guy, what does he think these things are?
brandon coleman
Um they're related with God somehow.
joe rogan
They're uh this is what Tucker believes.
brandon coleman
Yeah, I kind of believe it too.
joe rogan
A lot of people believe that these things are not from another world, that they're they've always been here.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're a part of our world that just don't show themselves to us.
Does this guy have videos of these things?
Watch this with an open heart, okay?
Show me what you got.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Something moving.
Oh.
There's a lot.
Okay, what the fuck is that?
brandon coleman
I think you should go out there and take him out.
Just don't tell anybody.
joe rogan
That could be bugs.
unidentified
I see that if I look up from in the sky in Austin all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that thing moving across the sky, that is odd.
jamie vernon
That's different.
joe rogan
That thing's very odd.
Because that's clearly moving.
andrew bishop
It's I mean, you see flashes.
joe rogan
But the thing is it's like you're zooming in, right?
So you get distortion.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So you don't know, and they see it's going behind the cloud.
That you don't know what that is.
jamie vernon
Have you ever seen the space station fly over?
joe rogan
How have you seen the space station fly over?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
I've seen pictures of it before.
joe rogan
Does it look like that?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's really slow moving.
Yeah, it's just a tiny bit.
brandon coleman
It's usually just one though.
jamie vernon
Well, the rest of those, that's the rest of that stuff kind of looks like.
brandon coleman
Probably bugs.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that looks like bugs.
joe rogan
That's the problem is that like if you're zooming in on this thing, the stuff that flies in between that looks like it's moving really fast and flying across incredible space.
Yeah, that easily could be bugs.
But maybe not.
That's the problem.
andrew bishop
Interdimensional angelic beings.
joe rogan
Is that what he's calling them?
andrew bishop
That's what it says.
joe rogan
I like to see some documentation.
My dad was Wait till the end.
What happens in the end?
brandon coleman
It goes behind the cloud.
joe rogan
Oh.
andrew bishop
They simply come when I when we ask in prayer.
Countless others were healed too.
brandon coleman
Joe, just go out there and see it and don't tell anybody.
joe rogan
I feel like if they want to show themselves, they should just go ahead and do it.
brandon coleman
I think they will eventually, maybe if it's gonna happen.
joe rogan
Maybe if things get real messy here.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
andrew bishop
We'll find out.
brandon coleman
Well isn't there verses about there will be signs in the sky?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of verses about the sky and about I've been in the into the book of Enoch over the last couple of years.
brandon coleman
Yeah, I was wanting to pull that up.
I was wanting to talk about that later.
joe rogan
So Replima came in here and she was explaining to me the book of Enoch, and I never really got into it.
She's like, you know, it could have been included in the Bible, and it was a part of the the Dead Sea Scrolls, but the first half was, right?
Well, the Book of Enoch is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
brandon coleman
The whole book?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And the um at least part of it.
It's the problem with the book of the Dead Sea Scrolls, rather, it's a lot of it is deteriorated and missing chunks and stuff.
But the book of Isaiah is in the Dead Sea Scrolls and it is identical word for word.
Wes Huff was explaining that to a version of it that was a thousand years older, which was the most recent version before they found the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1940s.
Which is wild.
brandon coleman
That is why that's the book that God predicts his own coming to earth and his own death and all that.
joe rogan
Well, the book of Enoch is the one that predicts that this is what talks about the watchers in the sky and that these gods made with humans and created the Nephilim.
That is bizarre.
I've listened listened to it twice now, and I keep going back over it and just rewinding and going, what are they saying?
Like what were they trying to describe?
Because this sounds completely insane.
brandon coleman
When you get into like the 'cause isn't there like Egyptian stuff where the there's like men coming down from space and like Stargates, there's all sorts of weird shit.
That to me is just like fallen angels.
You know, it's all kind of lining up in some kind of way or another.
These whatever rebelled against God and came down here, men from the sky came down here and were pretty much posing as gods and demanding people worship them.
And uh isn't Enoch where they teach them about money and teach them about Sorcery.
joe rogan
Sorcery and sorcery and agriculture and metallurgy.
There's all sorts of like weird if they talk about incantations.
brandon coleman
If one gets put on you, it's like And you gotta think this is pre-Jesus and so God is separated from man.
So we're just walking around as people like not knowing what's going on.
Um and these things come down and they're boring giants and stuff.
It's like you know, I'd probably think it's a god too, for God's sakes, you know, because there wasn't what was the Jews even a thing when the book of Enoch was wrote written.
joe rogan
Sure, yeah.
brandon coleman
: The chosen people?
joe rogan
: The people that argued over whether or not the Book of Enoch should be included in the canon were rabbis.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's it's all so confusing.
andrew bishop
Is there any explanation of why it would be left out?
joe rogan
Well, they felt like it didn't didn't jive with the Torah.
I think that's the reason why it was left out.
brandon coleman
Well, and I mean when I say that, like the at one point the Jews were God's chosen people is f like they knew the God, the the one the I am, the one true God, and but the rest of the world didn't really know what was going on.
And so they were worshiping other gods and so like aside from the Jews, the rest of humanity seeing these things walking around, it's like I'm sure they would think that's a god, you know, I'm sure they would worship that.
Well what else do they have to believe?
joe rogan
Well, if something did come and visit ancient humans.
I'm I'm in the middle of this Richard Dolan book, and it's it's a very interesting book on UFOs.
And Richard Dolan, who's uh very like uh objective scientifically minded author.
Wa one of the things he's talking about is his gene expression.
It's uh a dealele that started uh this gene uh start it was introduced through breeding.
So one of the things that we know is that that it came into the human population somewhere around 40,000 years ago.
And that this all geneticists agree that this was introduced through crossbreeding.
So the idea was was it introduced by Neanderthals?
Would it was it introduced by Denisovans, like what what type of human?
Well, the problem is they don't find that gene expression in any other ancient human.
Like they don't find it in Neanderthals, they don't find it, but they do find it in Asia, uh like in Mongolia, most people have it.
The rest of the world, it's like seventy percent of the people have it, and they think it's responsible for creativity.
They think it's responsible for this giant change in the artwork that people start producing around 40,000 years ago.
And his assertion or his question, the hypothesis is that it was introduced by some other species.
And this is also part of what is talked about not just in the book of Enoch, but also in the Sumerian text.
They they talk about what happened that created human beings.
And so what he's talking about is this one woman of h that was an academic, I forget her name, but she wrote these books about it where she believes that human beings are some sort of a hybrid species and that we were genetically manipulated to be what we are now.
brandon coleman
And I think going back to the flood, because apparent like every other religion has some type of evidence of a great flood, correct?
Yeah.
So at one point or another, if God's creation did get corrupt.
joe rogan
Right.
brandon coleman
Um that was pretty much the great reset of um I've got a he had to get rid of all that that he didn't create.
And uh I forgot where I was going with that, but yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they do all have a a flood myth.
And now because of the younger dryest impact theory, we know that there most likely was massive floods all over the earth somewhere around eleven thousand, eight hundred years ago.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
And uh I I just think about stuff like that when they find this skull that they can't link anything to, or find stuff that doesn't they can't link anything to.
It's like we don't really know what happened a long time ago.
We can pretend that we did, but I personally believe there was a an advanced civilization way back in the day before all that.
joe rogan
And there's a lot of evidence that points to that.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There there is also new evidence that just uh emerged out of China.
They found a Homo sapien skull that's one million years old.
andrew bishop
Well, it's China.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
It's still it's like it's it's an actual Homo sapien skull that was carbon-dated to a million years old.
So that that predates what we thought of as the emergence of Homo sapiens by five hundred thousand years.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's just what we found, right?
They might find another one six months from now that's two million years old.
So like they don't really know.
We're piecing things together.
We're piecing the past together with a very limited amount of information, very limited evidence.
And evidence of fossils, it's very difficult to make a fossil.
Most fossils they just don't they don't happen.
The animals eat the bones, the bones deteriorate in the sun.
Like some there's a very specific set of circumstances that has to happen for something to be fossilized.
brandon coleman
Haven't they found some fossils with like grass still in their mouth?
And so they were wondering how could they found some type of evidence of fossils where it seems like this animal was fossilized instantly.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, not even fossilized, just preserved instantly.
Like this is woolly mammoths, there's quite a few of them.
Yeah, they think a lot of that was what happened during the impact.
So Randall Carlson talks about this quite a bit.
There's there's multiple places on earth where there's a a large number of animals that seem to have died instantaneously.
And weirdly, like with broken legs, like broken mammoth legs, stre like uh over like a a large field of them, thousands of them there.
Like what happened?
Like some sort of an event must have happened where they were wiped out, or the the ones that were in this area were wiped out instantaneously, and he thinks it's probably some sort of a collision.
andrew bishop
Like a m well, it's a mass casualty of some soil.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew bishop
I mean, what else can cause that?
joe rogan
Well, not only that, sixty-five percent, something like that of all North American megafauna died off at the exact same time.
All of it around that that same younger dryest impact theory time between eleven thousand eight hundred years ago and ten thousand years ago.
Everything.
Woolly mammoth, uh uh African lion, African cheetah, there was all sorts of giant sloths, all sorts of weird animals that all died off in America around the exact same time that they think this flood happened.
And it used to be just complete speculation, but now they find core samples where they're they're they're finding iridium that just indicates iridium is very common in space and very rare on Earth.
So when they find a layer of iridium, it indicates there's some sort of an impact.
unidentified
Of course.
brandon coleman
Interesting.
joe rogan
That's wild shit, man, because it could happen to us at any moment.
You know, there's this guy Avi Loeb, who's a professor out of Harvard who is saying that some of these objects that we're seeing in space, they're m they're moving in very bizarre ways.
They're enormous.
They they they have much more mass and much more speed, they're inst interstellar objects, and he's speculating whether or not they're they're alien.
andrew bishop
I've been following that one a lot of the things.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is one of the ones he's talking about.
andrew bishop
They think it's a spaceship.
joe rogan
They think it's something.
You know, whatever it is.
andrew bishop
For it to come outside of our solar system on this path is just very bizarre.
joe rogan
Very bizarre, but other astronomers say, yeah, but it just might be unique.
Like there's there's a lot of stuff in space they're finding through the James Webb telescope that they didn't understand that so they had this uh idea of the universe being thirteen point seven or whatever it is, billion years old.
But now they're finding these galaxies that were formed far too quickly, far like after the big bang.
And so now they're starting to say, well, this might be an indication that it's quite a bit older, and that maybe it's not thirteen maybe the big bang is not thirteen point seven billion years, but that's just as far back as we can look.
And as they get better and better equipment and better and better ways of looking, they'll be able to find more evidence and more information that gives them more questions and m less answers.
It's really weird.
It's like there's a quote by uh Dennis McKenna, and he said that once the bonfire of knowledge expands, the surface layer of ignorance is exposed.
More of a surface layer of ignorance.
So the more you see and the more you learn, the more you realize, oh, I don't know shit.
And that's what they're kind of finding out about space.
It's like they know a lot, but they don't they don't know a lot in comparison to what's out there.
andrew bishop
More questions pop up than answers.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean it's it's fucking it might be.
brandon coleman
This is wild too, how much of that we were told in school is like fact and then you go grow up like, wait a minute.
We don't we don't really know what's going on.
andrew bishop
I didn't even know there was dwarf planets in our solar system.
There's planets that aren't like regular planets, but they I didn't learn about those.
drew nix
I might have learned that three years ago.
andrew bishop
It's pretty wild to think that they're at I'm 32.
That we that they're there and we never learned about them.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there's also a speculation that there's something big that's outside of the Kuiper belt.
There's like some other planet that it might even be a dwarf star or uh what is it called?
I forget what they're called, a brown dwarf.
But that we might have a binary star system, and that this the star might have died off, and it's like in a far outside of uh our own sun outside of that orbit.
Wow.
So there's something there's this thing called the Kuiper belt that's outside of Pluto, and it's a a belt of objects, and that's one of the reasons why Pluto got declassified as a planet because it is a little too small to be a planet, and it seems like there's a lot of these objects out there, and then they found a couple more, and they're saying, okay, it's not a planet, but there seems to be a drop-off after that which indicates something that is of a large mass exists.
andrew bishop
Interesting.
joe rogan
But it's a little too far for us to be able to look at right now.
So it's a lot of just speculation.
What was that one paper that we looked at once that they they had they had documented a planet out there that they were calling planet X. But it's like the Earth like was it like an Earth-like.
They don't know what it is.
I mean, this is all this is the fucking Sumerian tech stuff too, because they talk about this planet called Nibiru that comes within an elliptical orbit every three thousand six hundred years and fucks things up, and that's where the Anunnaki live.
This is this guy Zacharias Hitchin.
It's fascinating stuff.
It's so fun.
It's so fun, but might be full of shit.
In fact, there's a whole website called Sitchin is wrong.com that refutes it.
But I'm too dumb to know who's right and who's wrong.
andrew bishop
It's still interesting to talk about in theorize, you know.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, the Sumerians had a detailed map of the solar system six thousand years ago.
Bizarrely, with the sun in the center and all the planets that we know of in the relative size and the relative order, like the ones that are the s the right not exactly the right size because they're so fucking huge.
But the bigger ones are in the bigger place.
And it's it shows this map of the solar system on this clay tablet from nine thousand or six thousand years ago.
Like how do they know that?
brandon coleman
Yeah.
It goes back to the advanced civilization, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
andrew bishop
I just really think there was do you think?
brandon coleman
I think it was a different type of advance, like not power lines and stuff like that.
I think they honed into like natural energy from the earth.
Like I heard something about the pyramids may have been like some type of a power plant because they just found where those pillars go down in the ground, so on.
joe rogan
That stuff's wild.
That stuff's wild.
I th this dude Ben Van Kirkwick, um, and they've used that same uh technology to find this enormous labyrinth that existed, but that was also documented historically.
Herodotus talked about it and different historians have talked about it.
This labyrinth that's even more impressive than the pyramids underground.
And inside they've so using this technology, they've found this forty meter, it's forty meter, this metallic.
They don't know what kind of metal it is, but there's a metallic tic-tac shaped object that's forty meters long at the center of this labyrinth.
So they built a dam in the nineteen sixties to uh help the farmers out, and the dam unfortunately fucked up the water table, so this labyrinth is now flooded.
So you can't get in it unless they do something to change the water and you know, change how the water is channeled or build a tunnel inside of it, but the water table has made it impossible to get into it without doing that.
But this thing, because of this tomography, this uh ground penetrating radar, they know that there's an enormous metallic object from thousands and thousands of years ago that's forty meters long.
andrew bishop
Are they actively trying to figure it out, like get in there?
joe rogan
There are researchers that are, but the problem is there's a lot of resistance from the Egyptian government.
andrew bishop
I figured.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They don't want they don't want any monkey wrench in the timeline that they've been teaching forever.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
I've I've seen uh one article they just discovered some ancient city and it was like a they discovered something.
It was related to Christianity, like they discovered something, Christ is king, and but long story short, the whole entire project just got shut down and they passed the law you can't dig there for like twenty years.
joe rogan
I think you're talking about go Bekli Tepe.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, go Bekli Tepe, um, which is in uh Turkey.
They found that by accident.
It was a farmer.
A farmer was uh I think it was a sheep herder, actually.
He found some stone that was in the ground, he's like kicked at it and like cleaned it off a little bit, and then realized it had a right angle to it, and it's like, what the hell is this?
And he dug a little deeper, and then they called in the archaeologists and they said, Hey, uh we got something here.
And then they discovered that there's these concentric circles and these huge stone columns and 3D animals, and they've only uncovered five percent of it so far.
andrew bishop
Wow.
joe rogan
And uh they kind of stopped digging because they get enormous amount of tourist revenue where people are gonna want to come to the site and they didn't want to fuck that up, and you know, there's a lot a lot of a lot of weirdness when you let these governments decide what can and can't be explored.
Because through ground penetrating radar, they realize that this this site, even though they've only uh excavated five percent of it, is one of many, many sites that are in that area.
And the age of it is really fascinating because this was intentionally covered somewhere around eleven thousand years ago.
So that means that someone decided to cover this all up with dirt eleven thousand years ago, which means they don't even know how old it is.
It could be two thousand, three thousand years older than that.
They don't know.
brandon coleman
And it's just weird to just stop finding that out.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Well, they're getting a lot of pressure now, so they might start opening up the excavation of it.
And they did a lot of stupid shit, like they covered it with uh olive trees for once for some reason.
Yeah.
Like I think because olive trees are protected, so if they covered it with olive trees, you couldn't dig into the ground, you couldn't remove the olive trees.
It was like a way to stop people from looking around.
andrew bishop
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But now they they realize that the olive trees, the roots are actually destroying the artifacts that are underneath.
So now they're pulling the olive trees, and you know there's discussions about continuing the excavations.
brandon coleman
I got off on a giant kick one time reading about any time the Smithsonian got involved, Jesus shut down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The giant stuff is weird because there's a lot of documentation of people finding giants like enormous giant bones, ten, fifteen foot tall humans.
And then there's also the Nephilim in the Bible that are giants that are that consumed everything.
You know, that were I mean, David and Goliath, there's giants in the Bible.
And it makes you think like, okay, is it a giant like the mountain from the Game of Thrones?
andrew bishop
You know, like just people were shorter and relatively back then.
joe rogan
Right, but but probably some people weren't.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If they lived in some places where they had more resources and better genes.
andrew bishop
Pituitary gland problems, you know, where you have guys 7'11 plus, you know.
joe rogan
Yep.
But this seems different.
The giants in the Bible and the giants in historical accounts, it seems different.
It seems like it was a totally different species of human.
And again, if we just found this guy recently that's a million years old, and now we know.
So forever they were saying that human beings I mean the the timeline used to be Homo sapiens emerged 50,000 years ago, and then they moved it to 150, then they moved it to 250, 300.
It is as they find more information.
Now they have to push it to a million.
You know, and if one day they they find a fucking head as big as this table, like what do they do?
What do they do about that?
Do they even tell us?
andrew bishop
I don't think they really think they would be.
joe rogan
But why wouldn't they?
That's what's weird.
Like, why wouldn't they?
Isn't that crazy?
Because but we all agree.
We all agree that if they did find a giant, they probably wouldn't tell us.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
Not until they did their own, you know, figured it out for themselves or tested on what they want to do.
joe rogan
Well, if they would want people to know, but I don't know why they wouldn't want people to know.
Like, why do I why am I convinced that they would hide that?
brandon coleman
Well, if there is uh antichrist on his way, and he his goal he already knows he lost.
So his goal at this point is just to destroy as much as possible, you know, get as many souls as possible.
And finding stuff like that that would prove the Bible more true would turn more people to Christianity or tur to God, the one true God, than I could see where if there is like some type of spiritual force that is in somewhat control, then I could see that's the only way I can make sense of it is like why cover up progress?
Why why not tell people the truth?
joe rogan
Well, I think it's ego.
And that might be also related to good and evil in a lot of ways.
brandon coleman
Loving yourself and not you're supposed to love God over yourself.
joe rogan
Right.
And being the person that has the knowledge and the person that distributes that knowledge and is the gatekeeper of it is a very intoxicating thing for a lot of these academics.
And if all of a sudden something comes along that and this is the speculation about what happened with the Smithsonian, that they took that stuff and just fucking tucked it away.
andrew bishop
They would want to have you know, secretly do their own tests without anybody knowing about it.
joe rogan
I know, but to what end?
andrew bishop
At one point in time before everybody else knows, they would already have the answers.
I don't know.
joe rogan
But wouldn't there be a time where someone would want to like d be the guy who discovered it all and get all the credit for it?
Like that's why it doesn't make sense.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
brandon coleman
To me, if somebody knows God, it is freeing in a lot of way.
And you realize that you know, no government is above you or no man is above you, you God is above you and you serve God.
And if you can keep people away from God, um you're that much more susceptible to being a slave to something else.
Yeah, like whatever something else.
drew nix
Whatever evidence or anything that kind of proves that God exists.
brandon coleman
Yeah, anything that's gonna prove God's existence, I think that's gonna be the main thing they shut down.
joe rogan
Right.
Right.
Like the shroud of Turin is an excellent example.
andrew bishop
Yeah, that's a weird one, man.
joe rogan
There's a weird one.
There's a lot of people that go out of their way to try to disprove it.
But when you you get into the dating of the cloth, so it used to be they were saying that it was only a few hundred years old.
But now they're saying that the the the way the cloth is made, the it is the cloth is made that's exactly consistent with the time that Jesus was alive, and that more tests need to be done to find out the exact age of it.
Because the problem is like you don't know like what piece they studied, and you know you're not studying the entire thing.
And also the image of it is bizarre because the image of it, you really only see Jesus when it's a negative of it.
And they don't know how that image was put on there.
It wasn't stained, it wasn't burned on there.
They don't know what caused it.
andrew bishop
It's like a blast of radiation.
unidentified
Right.
brandon coleman
Somebody recreated it with uh gamma radiation, I think.
But the only problem so it would just be it need would it would need a it would need to be an extreme source of light to do that.
But the only problem is that would have vaporized the heat from the light would have vaporized it realistically.
So they're wondering well, if light did do it, how was there no heat?
joe rogan
Right.
brandon coleman
So if Christ did raise and pass through it, there's also X ray images in the shroud, apparently.
joe rogan
Well, you see the sh when you see the shroud in negative, like Jamie, pull up an image of it, it's very strange.
Like it shows the lash marks on his body, it shows his facial features, it shows the holes where his wrist is where the he was crucified.
It's very strange stuff.
So like for someone to do that as a hoax and to just not not paint it, just to do it in some very weird.
Um go to that yeah, that one right where your cursor so that make that big recently said it's fake.
brandon coleman
They've recently said fake.
joe rogan
The thing is like who is the person who's they're What's that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Says they've been de debunking it for six hundred and fifty years.
joe rogan
Well, but six hundred and fifty years ago they didn't even have carbon dating, so what were they doing to debunk it back then?
There's a bunch of people that want to debunk it.
jamie vernon
This is a document.
joe rogan
A document?
jamie vernon
Well, they were talking about I mean it I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, they talked about it being bullshit.
Yeah, I've also got a lot of people.
The thing is people I'm sure called it and called bullshit on it a long time ago.
Sure, but w how would someone figure out that five hundred, a thousand, two thousand years ago, whatever it is.
jamie vernon
It could have been three hundred, two hundred, hundred and fifty years.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Well, it's six hundred and fifty years if they've been debunking it for six hundred and fifty years, you gotta assume it's at least six hundred and fifty years old.
So the the thing is like, see, between it's been dated between thirteen fifty-five and thirteen eighty-two.
Um the text was the document.
The text, what text that we're talking about here, not the shroud.
What is the sh the text about?
Medieval document is revealed the authenticity of the shroud that many believe wrapped in crucified uh was being called into question perhaps as early as thirteen fifty five.
Okay, well that means that it existed thirteen fifty-five.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Um description depictions by clergymen.
See it's deceptions, oh excuse me.
Deceptions by clergymen, his writings now considered the oldest written rejection of the relic, predate the previous earliest documented criticism by the bishop of Troy S Pierre D Arcis in 1389.
So either way, we know it's at least six hundred plus years old, and we we know that the way that it was put on there was not stained, it was not painted.
It's very straight.
And if you look at it like that, they didn't even know that until they came up with photography, until they could take an an image of it and make it a negative.
They didn't see the face of Jesus and all the the depictions.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's like this image right here is like you look at that, the shroud of Turin, like, yeah, I could say call bullshit, whatever.
But then you see the negative I go back to those other images.
So this is what it looks like when you run it through when you use modern photography and turn it into a negative.
That's really weird.
Yeah that this wasn't that they didn't know about this in the 1300s.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
New study says it's something else.
So they're gonna have studies forever that debunk it.
And one thing that academics love to do, they love to call everybody retarded.
brandon coleman
Yep.
joe rogan
Everywhere everybody's an idiot.
This is all fake, this is bullshit, but whatever that is, man, when you're go just go back to the the negative ones.
The one that you just had, the one down yeah, that one, please.
That's weird as fuck to me, man.
So it's weird as fuck that it didn't you couldn't see it normally, and you only see it when they make a negative of it.
That is so strange.
That someone would go out of their way to fake something in that way where it only exists in a negative.
brandon coleman
Well, and they don't even know how it happened.
joe rogan
Right.
Exactly.
They don't know how to I mean, they're saying they could reproduce it today, but I don't think anybody has.
And also, how are you gonna reproduce it to such an extent with So much detail that is m that matches the biblical depiction of the crucifixion.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Including the holes in the wrist, the lash marks on his back, the the the wound in his side.
It's it's all really weird.
At the very least, it's fascinating.
The very least it's fascinating.
brandon coleman
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
I mean it's really interesting stuff.
brandon coleman
To me, that that seeing that, I really don't even care how old people think it is, or do like figure out how they did that first to me.
unidentified
It's like if this is not only that, how'd they do that six hundred fucking years ago?
joe rogan
Yeah, or two thousand years ago, or whatever really whatever age it actually is.
brandon coleman
I seen one article last year where they were they found dirt particles that matched you know, that they trace back to Jerusalem Jerusalem.
So it's like I say, they've been debunking it and saying it's authentic and debunking it it seems like for the last five or ten years now.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a very weird stuff.
brandon coleman
Just where are we at right now with it?
joe rogan
That one church in Ethiopia that's supposed to have the Ark of the Covenant there.
Yeah and all the people that that guard it, they all get cataracts and they wind up dying of radiation.
See, I don't heard of that.
brandon coleman
I don't know about that because the Ark of the Covenant was when God the Father's presence was here on earth, not through Jesus old Testament, the I am was down here and that's what he resided in.
And you had to do all these things to be in his presence, or you would literally just die because you know he's holy and to me it's like lightness and dark cannot list exist in the same place, so you whatever.
But the God's God the Father's presence isn't there anymore, so I don't understand why it would still be messing people up.
joe rogan
Well, we don't know what they were writing down.
Right.
The problem with all of ancient all ancient religious texts, let's assuming there was real events.
The problem is a lot of these things were told as an oral tradition for a hundred, five hundred a thousand years before they're ever even written down.
And then they write 'em down.
They write 'em down in Aramaic, they write 'em down in Hebrew, they write 'em and then they have to translate it and they translate it to Greek and Latin and then eventually English.
When I read these things, when I read the Bible or if I read the book of Enoch or any of these ancient texts, or I'm I'm always trying to say, okay, what what would what were they trying to document?
Like what was the original event?
Like what actually happened.
And forget the problem is people are really bad at telling the truth.
Like human beings, when they see something fantastic, they always add their own little flavor to it.
People add their own little thing to it.
If they are of a certain belief, they're gonna attach that belief to whatever this thing was.
So it's uh it's no question that these people held whatever that was in such high regard and it meant so much to them that they like like the book of Isaiah, where it's verbatim that they wrote it verbatim for a thousand years.
Back when they started out, they were writing things down on animal skins.
That's one of the things about the the Dead Sea Scrolls that's so fascinating, is they had to do genetic testing.
So they're writing these things down on these animal skins, and they had to make sure that the skin of this one is the same cow as the skin of this one.
So if they do like genetic testing to make sure it's the same cow skin.
So, okay, we got all the skin from this cow and it's in this group of of text, so start to start decoding it.
andrew bishop
That's an interesting way of doing it.
That's wild.
joe rogan
It's wild.
andrew bishop
I would have never thought of that.
brandon coleman
Like Wes Huff said, how they used to write things like they'd leave stuff out back then because it wasn't required back then.
They would just write down the basics.
I watched that Wes Huff thing and that was very interesting of it.
joe rogan
Very he's fascinating.
drew nix
He's brilliant, man.
I watched a bunch of stuff on him.
joe rogan
Very brilliant.
But it's also it's again, what were they trying to document?
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some it's clearly something was going on back then.
Something happened.
brandon coleman
Did you ever read that story?
It was somewhere in the Bible, I can't remember where, it's in the Old Testament.
Somebody stole the Ark.
Well, some tribe stole the Ark, and uh like the next day they the next morning, like everybody was dead from stealing the Ark, and they pretty much said, Hey, come get this thing, take it back.
joe rogan
Well, that's what people believe is in this church in Ethiopia.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because there's these Ethiopian Jews who also, their Bible is the book of Enoch.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Do we have an image of this?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, you can't see it.
Nobody can get I say send in the seals.
We need to find out what the fuck is in there, bro.
Put these guys in hazmat suits and let's get to the bottom of this.
andrew bishop
If the U.S. knows you got it, it's going to be ours.
joe rogan
Well, I ch yeah, you would imagine.
andrew bishop
We're gonna take it.
brandon coleman
I would like to see what they're doing.
joe rogan
Well, what would happen with remote viewers if remote viewing is real?
Get remote viewers in a room and we have talked about that.
brandon coleman
They went down a remote viewing rabbit hole.
unidentified
He was big on it.
joe rogan
I thought it was a hundred percent horseshit about ten years ago.
brandon coleman
What about the submarine?
joe rogan
Over time.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, the submarine's big.
The one that they found the Soviet submarine that they were building.
They knew the exact location.
Not just that, remote viewers found a downed aircraft that was in Siberia.
They located it within a three mile radius.
They found it.
They knew where it was.
And the United States went in and got it before the Soviet Union could.
brandon coleman
Using remote viewers that do.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Using remote viewers.
Like they've got actionable information from remote viewers.
Allegedly.
andrew bishop
To me, it feels like we could it's just a scare the Soviets.
Like, oh, we got we got people with superpowers.
We know where the submarine is.
joe rogan
Or they're doing it too.
andrew bishop
Or they're doing it too.
joe rogan
Or is this something that people realize that there is a developing aspect of human consciousness or an aspect of human consciousness that used to exist that we forgot that we don't know how to do anymore.
One of those things.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
andrew bishop
That's an interesting concept, yeah.
joe rogan
It is because the remote viewer thing, they spent a fuckload of money on that and they they kept that program going on for a long, long time.
And you know, I don't know what they discovered or what they didn't.
You know, it's you unless you're in the room with the people that have the top, top, top secret information.
Who knows?
andrew bishop
That whole cold war time is also just wild.
I think it was I see why we would have faked a lot of stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
andrew bishop
On both sides.
Oh, it's a big bluff, a bluff game of uh we can do this, we have this.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yep.
drew nix
Andy just started believing in the uh in us getting to the moon.
andrew bishop
Well, once we went to NASA and Texas, but also that documentary, the other footage that came out.
I don't really know.
I can see why we would fake it.
I mean, it's Soviets.
Yeah, it's the US government.
We'd fake a lot of fake anything.
joe rogan
So go ahead, I'll talk about it.
brandon coleman
I was saying for a while though, they before that documentary came out, though the story was well, we lost the footage.
andrew bishop
We lost all of it.
brandon coleman
And it's like, did they just wait for technology to progress to be able to make a convincing documentary?
joe rogan
Well, they definitely lost the footage.
They lost all the original copies of the film.
So all the original film was gone.
What you're seeing is just copies of copies.
Uh they also lost the telemetry data, which is a real problem.
That's the what the hard data, the binary data that shows the distance in the craft and how far it was.
It just seems fake.
It seems fake when you watch it.
That's what's weird to me.
It seems totally hokey.
It looks fake as shit.
And then the weird one for me is the Apollo 11 post-flight press conference.
Those guys look like a hostage video.
It doesn't look real at all.
And then there's Neil Armstrong who gave that very bizarre cryptic speech at the 25th anniversary of the Apollo moon landing.
There's a lot of weirdness to them.
And the fact that we haven't been back.
There's not a single thing that's not cheaper, easier, and faster to reproduce from 1969.
Yeah in 2025, except the moon landing.
brandon coleman
Yeah, and it's just weird.
Like if it if it is true, I seen a video of like something that was supposedly live streamed on on the news back then.
And it was just this guy who was obviously hanging from a cable and he had this pathetic looking Earth under him.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
brandon coleman
You know, and it's not at all what actual space looks like now.
But this was like on the news apparently.
joe rogan
Well, that's probably not real.
That's probably an artist rendition or recreation.
But how about the phone call?
Nixon is calling the guys from the Hey fellas, I hear you're on the moon.
Yes, sir, we're on the moon.
I can't even get fucking cell phone service in my bathroom.
jamie vernon
What else are if they what's their explanation for how to do that?
Retro reflectors.
joe rogan
Well, first of all, the Russians put rush uh reflectors as well.
So you can you can definitely remotely place uh reflectors.
Um the other problem is the moon itself reflects.
So there's there's a lot of weird arguments about that.
I could see how you could say, oh, there's reflectors and that would indicate that people were there, but show us the flag.
andrew bishop
Do we not have a can we point can we point James Webb over there?
joe rogan
No, No, no, no, no.
That's that's deep space.
It's a different thing.
You'd have to get a different kind of technology that's just to zoom in on the moon and they would go, why would we do that?
Why we spend billions and billions of dollars to prove something that rational people think definitely happened.
andrew bishop
It's a lot of people that would have to hold a secret too.
joe rogan
Not really.
andrew bishop
You don't think so?
joe rogan
No, because it's compartmentalized.
It's compartmentalized.
The only people that would really need to know are the people who made the footage, the people that are involved in the filming and the actual astronauts themselves.
Everybody else, you're getting fed data.
Okay.
andrew bishop
Yeah, you think they would believe that's happening.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not only that, when the first time when Apollo 11 happened, they weren't allowed to get a direct feed from the net from NASA.
So what they did was they used a projection screen, and then all the news cameras pointed their cameras at the projection screen.
That's why it looks like shit.
Like the first the Apollo 11 video looks so bad.
But it seems like that was on purpose.
Like they made it look like shit on purpose.
andrew bishop
Interesting.
joe rogan
And if you wanted to gain techno technological and you know ethical and moral superiority over the evil communists, you could see why you would make some sort of a rationalization why you should fake that we have the ability to go to the moon.
Because the ability to go to the moon is not just scientific, it's military.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a military might.
Like we have the best rockets, we have the best this, we have the best.
We got the best.
We landed the moon.
We definitely did it.
So it just makes sense that they would fake it.
andrew bishop
And the the the blow of Sputnik flying over the United States and everybody could see it.
It's like we can put this right above your country.
drew nix
That was a flex.
brandon coleman
I'm just saying.
If they were giving people LSD and brothels, I could see them faking the moon.
andrew bishop
Yeah, most of the time.
joe rogan
Most of the United States history is full shit.
At least some aspect of it.
Look what got us into the Vietnam War.
Gulf of Tonka never happened.
Full shit.
False flag event.
They're they all throughout history, all throughout the United States history in the 1960s, during the same time where they were supposedly going to the moon, they lied constantly at every fucking turn.
At every turn.
andrew bishop
And who's to say they're not still doing that?
brandon coleman
It was easier to do it.
It's hard to trust.
joe rogan
They are.
They 100% are.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look, I know people in government that will tell you.
They're like, put your phone down.
Let's go for a walk.
And they'll tell you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, what?
andrew bishop
That would be that won't that.
joe rogan
Those conversations are strange.
andrew bishop
One of my favorite things is uh the pizza ordering at the Pentagon.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
andrew bishop
When shit starts to go down, the the spike in pizza ordering because people are working late.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Interesting.
joe rogan
It's very weird.
andrew bishop
And it just spiked.
I saw I think a couple weeks ago because I brought it up.
I was like, I got a notification.
It's like pizza spike.
joe rogan
I know.
People started thinking we're going to war.
andrew bishop
It's it was at a like a time, it was at a high that was like the Panama stuff, Vietnam.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny?
It's pizza deliveries is what freaks everybody out.
Oh, they're working late.
unidentified
They're working late.
andrew bishop
They're running pizza.
Now they just call it all all the generals together.
You've seen that?
joe rogan
Yeah, hexeth did.
But supposedly what they're doing is giving they want to get all the generals together and give them some sort of a a moral and ethical mandate.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like preparedness, this is what we want the military to be.
andrew bishop
No more beards and stuff.
joe rogan
No more fucking politics and no more identity politics and bullshit.
We the most important thing is be ready.
Be ready, have the best, most capable military that's humanly possible given the resources that we have today.
This is what our this is where our goal is, this is where our job is.
andrew bishop
And they needed to call everybody together to do that.
joe rogan
Well you saw what the fuck was going on over the last four years.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got guys in dresses talking about how it's really important to have inclusiveness.
It's the most important thing about the military is inclusivity.
We had crazy people that were in charge of very important positions.
Including that guy that was stealing women's clothes.
That guy was in charge of like fucking nuclear waste.
And he's running around stealing people's underwear.
andrew bishop
And T ray.
joe rogan
With lipstick and a bald head.
Not just stealing, but he stole this one lady who was like a famous designer.
It was a one off dress, and then he wore that's how he got busted.
He wore it to some event, and the lady was like, hey, motherfucker, that's mine.
Like someone stole that shit from the airport.
And that's how he got busted.
unidentified
This is a South Park episode.
andrew bishop
That is a South Park episode.
unidentified
Is it?
andrew bishop
Is it a South Park episode?
unidentified
No, we live in a South Park episode.
joe rogan
We do.
Yeah, we Do.
unidentified
It's good.
brandon coleman
Wow, man.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
It is wild, but it's like it's always been wild.
And this is one of the good things about uh Trump being elected and Trump in office is that kind of threw a muz they didn't want M to be the president and threw a monkey wrench into all these things that they were doing, and you get to see a lot of these people scramble and you get to see like oh this is this is there's so much like all the doge stuff where they did uncovered all these NGOs.
brandon coleman
That was crazy.
joe rogan
There's an NGO for I think it's every six hundred people in India.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know how crazy that is?
There's a non other there's a non-government organization for every I think it's like five or six hundred people in India.
There's like millions of them.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's crazy.
It's like what are you doing?
What are you doing?
You find Elon explained it to me too.
He said what you would do is you would make this non profit and you would call this not you'd put a bunch of money into it.
So you like you put like 10 million dollars, relatively small to them.
Ten million dollars this thing and call it like um agency for peace, center for peace, whatever it is.
And then that becomes a non-government organization, and then you get politicians to dump tons of money into this NGO, and then through this NGO, you profit.
andrew bishop
It's like a show company.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And there's a ton of those.
And there's so many of them, they couldn't even keep track of them.
And the more they dug into it, the more they started calling Elon a Nazi, and it just got wild.
andrew bishop
Well, they don't like when the elites don't like when the curtain's pulled back.
joe rogan
Well, that was the curtain being pulled back.
That was the curtain being pulled back in a way that most people were not aware.
And when I brought Mike Benz in and Mike Benz laid it all out and he was explaining that what the what USAID was for was the things that were too dirty for the CIA to get involved in.
So a lot of it was like regime change operations.
He was like outlining all these different regime change operations that were all being paid for, and then your tax dollars being dumped into these NGOs, and then people are pulling money out of it.
Billions of dollars.
andrew bishop
Why did uh why'd every why'd they stop digging?
Are they still digging?
unidentified
Like those.
brandon coleman
It was supposed to be a temporary thing.
andrew bishop
It just but it just seems like it all just stopped.
joe rogan
Well, you don't hear about it anymore, that's true.
But I think it was real problematic.
I mean, they did shut down USAID.
And um they they turned Elon into a fucking Nazi.
I mean, how many fucking Teslas got keyed and tires got slashed and his business was really troubled by it?
And so he's like, I'm done.
I'm I'm stepping away.
You guys you didn't follow my instructions, you didn't follow my recommendations, so what can I do?
You're ruining my life.
So I'm just gonna back out of this.
andrew bishop
Go back to building rockets.
joe rogan
So he's just going back to building rockets.
And the thing is like they didn't even care that he rescued those people from the fucking space station, which was wild.
Like no one wanted to give him credit, no one wanted to say thank you.
No, they're like, no, he's a Nazi.
People I know were calling him a Nazi because he spazzed out and went, My heart goes out to you.
andrew bishop
Oh, yeah, we we make fun of that all the time.
unidentified
It's crazy.
andrew bishop
Yeah, someone just took a still image, you know?
joe rogan
The guy literally has a chain around his neck that was given to him by one of the mothers of one of the hostages in Israel that says bring them all home.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He has uh he wears it around his neck.
That's what a Nazi does.
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
You think he's a Nazi?
There's no evidence that he's a Nazi other than one hand movement.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it.
andrew bishop
Well, it's like the whole rights being called Nazis.
Uh like why are we throwing that word around?
joe rogan
Well, that word doesn't mean anything when everybody's a Nazi.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like it's so stupid.
It's just like overplayed that hand.
brandon coleman
It started off being pretty strong and having a lot of weight, but now that you know, it's just like you've got that they use it all the time in a Nazi, and then the if you're not, you're communist.
andrew bishop
I mean, it's just...
joe rogan
Well, this comedy is surreal.
andrew bishop
Everything's so extreme right now.
joe rogan
I think Nazis are real, too.
That's the part of the problem.
When you call everybody a Nazi...
Well, the problem is that word gets overused, and now legitimate Nazis can just operate with impunity.
Like they're real.
There's there's legit Nazis out there.
brandon coleman
Yeah, yeah, and then they wouldn't even really know what a Nazi is at that point.
joe rogan
It's squirrely.
It's squirrely as fuck, and the government just is too big.
It's too big, there's too much going on, and you can only do so much to make it effective.
And so this administration has four years, and who knows what they're gonna be able to get done or not get done, and there's a lot of things they're doing that make people very upset, like the all the ice stuff and the raids and you see iceberg cubes, tour bus.
andrew bishop
Have you seen that?
drew nix
No.
andrew bishop
I this they burnt his bus down.
joe rogan
The Antifa people burnt ICE's ice cubes.
Ice cubes because they thought it was the ice bus.
brandon coleman
They thought it was an ice bus.
drew nix
Yes.
andrew bishop
You haven't seen this?
unidentified
No.
andrew bishop
Oh, yeah.
I could watch I didn't mean to interrupt you on it, but it just hit me.
I saw that this uh a couple days ago.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
Brilliant.
andrew bishop
Yeah, burnt it to the ground.
brandon coleman
Is there a reaction video?
andrew bishop
Oh, I love to see Ice Cube's reaction.
joe rogan
Bro, Portland is wild.
Yeah, you guys who are in Portland at all.
andrew bishop
We actually had a good show there, but when you were so happy.
It is zombie apocalypse.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
And we were just another one's San Francisco.
We've never first time for us going to San Francisco was about a month ago.
And it was we were in the whatever they call the tinderloin, and it is a madhouse.
There's people blowing up fireworks, some homeless people blowing up these fireworks in the middle of the night on the street.
Me and Drew's just watching them out the window.
We're watching crime happen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
San Francisco's pretty bug wild.
And then the mayor came out and said, We're making the declaration, no one can sleep on the street, you can no longer loiter, you can only do the and then go look at San Francisco right now.
It's exactly the same.
This is talk.
unidentified
Is San Francisco where they cleaned up the Chinese president?
joe rogan
Because Ji Jin King was in town.
Oh and then News and said, Well, when you have visitors over, you clean up your house.
unidentified
Like bitch, why don't you just keep your fucking house clean?
joe rogan
Why you got shit on your floor?
Human shit all over your streets.
brandon coleman
Yeah, man.
That's the questions that everybody needs to be asking.
joe rogan
But this is the question.
It's possible.
What if I wanted to ruin society and get it to a point where everybody you needed to control things because it got so chaotic that you could institute some sort of a digital ID and institute social credit score.
That's how you would do it.
You would you would I mean I'm not saying that that's what they're doing, but that's how I would do it.
What I would do is I would just let people out of jail the moment they do anything, let them camp on the streets, give them money for drugs, just let 'em just let it go crazy, and then have everybody like scrambling, please take away our freedom to give us safety.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then boom.
brandon coleman
Well, you can't blame people for asking these kinds of questions when you go to other countries and it's safe to walk around at night and it's a pretty clean city.
It's like why don't why don't we have this?
You know, you can't blame a society for asking those kinds of questions from their leaders.
Why are you alive and why don't you just clean up for a foreign government to come visit?
What's this cool or whatever, but you proved that you could.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
And then like, why why don't we just have that all the time?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
I think there needs to be more stuff directed towards mental health.
A lot of those homeless people and people on drugs is there some of them are like mentally ill and 100%.
Can't but we don't have any we don't have any treatment for people like that hardly.
joe rogan
Well, it all skyrocketed during the Reagan administration because they changed the like the laws in terms of like where what what you're supposed to do when someone's mentally ill.
And they just like let them loose.
Let's stop paying for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
But then then again, you know, you hear stories about we would hope we'd have some good ones.
brandon coleman
But it's just like some people were out there with no family.
joe rogan
Right.
brandon coleman
There's like, you know, kids their family died when they were eighteen.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
And they're they're not mentally able to function in society.
They've been homeless for twenty years.
joe rogan
One hundred percent.
brandon coleman
Where we we need a place for people like that.
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
drew nix
I have a very, very close family member right now that's homeless and mentally ill and is...
That's all I want, man, is for people to like we need I don't know what needs to happen, but we need to get these people help.
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah.
100%.
And that should be something that we do spend money on.
brandon coleman
I'll roll tax dollars to go to something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
Everybody, right or left, everybody would.
You want people to get a chance.
I mean, the best stories ever are people that had they're they were in the gutter, like living on the streets, and now all of a sudden they're helping people.
They run some sort of a non profit food kitchen and they're helping people get clean and they found life's purpose and you know, running, you know, whether it is some sort of a uh r religious class or something that gives people hope and gives people something that you know then they can tell you like, hey, I used to be where you are and now I'm not, and now I'm helping people.
brandon coleman
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like right or left.
Like this divide that we have in this country, most of it's bullshit.
And most of it is like it's engineered.
It's engineered to keep us at each other's throats so they can keep getting away with all this nonsense.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
andrew bishop
And we keep eating it up.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
And doubling down.
andrew bishop
It could be like If the president said don't go buy or something about bananas.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
You go everybody should have a banana today.
The left would never eat another banana in the thing.
Or the Tylenol thing.
joe rogan
Look at this time.
brandon coleman
Tylenol said in twenty seventeen, we actually don't recommend you take our product.
unidentified
But to see people.
joe rogan
Well, not only that.
Two years ago, Johnson and Johnson separated from Tylenol.
Tylenol became its own country uh company.
andrew bishop
Oh.
joe rogan
Which is probably like they saw it coming down the pipe and they're like, hey, jumping.
Well, here's what's really crazy.
A lot of fucking crazy leftist women started taking Tylenol to own JFK or RFK Jr. and and Trump.
And a bunch of them died of liver toxicity.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
I knew it was gonna happen.
A friend of the TikTok.
Pregnant women just taking Tylenol.
Just out of spite.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
brandon coleman
Why let why let something dictate your life that much?
You know?
joe rogan
A lot of people just that don't have any critical thinking skills and they're in a cult.
They're in a cult, whether they're in a MAGA cult or they're in a leftist cult, they're in a fucking cult.
And they're all in on one side or the other side, and I think humanity exists in the middle.
And humanity exists in the middle where you're supposed to be able to talk about ideas.
And you're supposed to say, Well, what's what's a good for just overall society?
Like mental health institutions, like giving people some sort of a chance to become a productive member of society.
Like all the there's a lot of things that we all agree on.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we need to find common ground and instead of like fighting and instead of polarizing people.
And this is one of the problems that I have with this administration is that they're really good at like pointing fingers at the other side and polarizing and really bad at uniting us all.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And not attacking the other side and just uniting us and bringing us together.
brandon coleman
What was the last administration that was good at uniting, in your opinion?
joe rogan
Ooh.
brandon coleman
Or is it always been a divisive?
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of always been like that.
But maybe the Clinton administration, maybe the first one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody, but boy.
andrew bishop
On the same team for at least a year.
drew nix
He was pretty divisive.
joe rogan
Like, oh, he was super divisive before that.
That's for damn sure.
But it's also it's like what did they do with that that unitedness they forced us into a war over a bullshit premise.
I mean, that just shows you what they're really willing to do if they have everybody's will.
If they have everybody on their side, like, okay, great, let's invade Iraq.
Let's lie about what we're doing.
brandon coleman
The war on terrorism.
jamie vernon
Exactly.
brandon coleman
They go anywhere with nuclear weapons.
joe rogan
Well, that's all you have to do.
They hate us for our freedom.
andrew bishop
Oh no.
joe rogan
Go fuck them up.
andrew bishop
And take their oil.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
It's it's kind of crazy, but we always fall for it.
And hopefully we fall for it less and less every year, but uh not it doesn't seem like it when you see pregnant ladies chewing Tylenol.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
We're in a crazy time.
brandon coleman
Again, that's what the song touches on.
We're actually gonna put it out October third because of it.
unidentified
I listened to it in the gym today.
You like it?
joe rogan
I love it.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
I love the whole album.
It's really great.
brandon coleman
Just jaded on it, man.
A lot of people hitting each other.
joe rogan
I know it's sick.
It's sick and it's unnecessary.
And you don't get much time, folks.
You don't get much time in this life.
You get a hundred years if you're lucky.
And you're gonna waste it fighting ideological battles on Twitter and Facebook.
Like what are you doing?
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
And you're trapped, you're trapped on your phone.
You're trapped, like checking to see how people are engaging with your latest outrage tweet.
drew nix
I I can't.
I cannot, dude.
I cannot.
I cannot look at the comments.
And I think I learned that from you.
andrew bishop
But go post and ghost.
joe rogan
Post and ghost, baby.
drew nix
I just like I've seen some of these things and I know it's all bullshit.
Like somebody's just coming on here to rile me up.
joe rogan
But like David 36907.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
drew nix
It's like on the inside, it kind of gets to you a little bit.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
drew nix
And I just don't know.
Rather than that.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
drew nix
He loves it.
brandon coleman
I eat it up, so I'm keep doing it.
Yeah, I don't care.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
I wouldn't be doing this if I cared about people's opinion.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
But you do keep a care about good people's opinions.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just don't care about it.
brandon coleman
I don't care about the negative opinions.
Because I'm not I'm doing it for God pretty much.
But I mean I've any time I post a cover song, sorry, not Whalen.
Sorry.
Nobody will ever be George Jones wasn't trying to be.
Just singing a songs, not that deep.
joe rogan
Johnny Cash will never be nine inch nails.
You know, he made hurt.
It's Just a different thing, man.
You can enjoy it without saying that.
But there's a lot of people that are just negative.
And it's why?
It's because their life sucks.
Do you think Michael Jordan leaves YouTube comments?
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Because he's a fucking winner.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's really what it is.
It's like our a lot of our society, their main contribution is bitching.
You know, that's what they spend most of their energy on.
brandon coleman
We want to keep it about music, man.
joe rogan
Good for you, man.
brandon coleman
A lot of drama in the world.
And we if somebody tried tried to start drama with us, I don't even know if we would even reply.
We don't it's a fake place.
You think I'm gonna waste my time arguing with you on social media.
You know, I'm not cool.
That's what you think.
joe rogan
It's one of the few things that we have that really unites us.
You know, really does.
Like you can get people of all persuasions, all different kinds of backgrounds.
Just love a good song.
brandon coleman
You know that's universal.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
That's that's weird about social media too, is the algorithm like some like someone left-leaning will have a completely different comment section than someone right-leaning.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Living in an echo chamber.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
And that's really bad because then you think, look, and then when the election happens, you're like, what?
What what is going on?
How do you not think the way I think?
Yeah.
Yeah.
brandon coleman
We're all people, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just wish someone would come along that was a great uniter, and hopefully they won't get shot.
Yeah.
andrew bishop
Jeez.
brandon coleman
Jesus.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it would.
brandon coleman
They killed him first though.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
They st they they did it back then too.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
If Jesus did come back today, boy, would that be fascinating.
unidentified
Like, see just to see how people actually I believe I'm sorry.
andrew bishop
It'd be relieving, honestly.
brandon coleman
I mean, could you imagine they're like I don't know.
I don't want to throw throw shade on anybody, but they just dying.
It's like, oh god dang it.
They were right.
I know, I know, I'll see myself out on that.
andrew bishop
Just go ahead and walk out and walk the other way.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You get to the Pearl Gates, you're like, no shit.
Really?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And then St. Peter's like, come here.
Talk to you about some.
andrew bishop
At least for me.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, I didn't know.
unidentified
If I knew, I would have never done I would have never lied about my taxes.
I would have never done any of those things.
andrew bishop
I'd have to make a make a stop at purgatory on the way.
That's where I'll be.
brandon coleman
We make it birds too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew bishop
I'll be there eventually.
joe rogan
But music is the great uniter.
brandon coleman
And he's the only Catholic in the band.
unidentified
Oh.
brandon coleman
So it's like again.
joe rogan
So you believe in purgatory?
andrew bishop
Yeah.
brandon coleman
But we coexist.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
unidentified
It's fine.
andrew bishop
We have, yeah, we I mean, we talk about we have like a little random Bible study that pop up.
We just talk about the Bible.
I pull out my catechism.
You know.
It's fun.
brandon coleman
I'm just gonna be laughing at you because God probably will send you to a purgatory because you believed in it.
andrew bishop
Hey, he might be sending you.
We don't know.
Well, no one believes in it.
Uh I'm I'll see y'all in that.
joe rogan
Well, when was Catholicism established?
andrew bishop
When uh with Jesus Christ when he was crucified.
joe rogan
That's when it was started.
andrew bishop
Yeah, he told St. Peter I'll build on on top of you.
Uh you are the rock I will build my church on, and you know where his bones are.
And the Vatican.
Underneath St. Peter's Basilica.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Vatican's got a lot of stuff.
St. Peter's Basilica is walking.
andrew bishop
Just went for my honeymoon.
Insane.
It was even if you're not Catholic, just going there, they have a whole museum.
It's insane.
No, that's down in Rome.
We won't make it that far.
joe rogan
But either way, Rome is pretty bizarre to look at too.
But there's there is nothing.
There's nothing like St. Peter's Basilica.
andrew bishop
It is.
joe rogan
Although, by the way, how crazy is it that Rome is its own country?
How crazy is that?
They have their own it's a country.
It's like fifty acres or some shit.
andrew bishop
Yeah, the Vatican.
joe rogan
The Vatican, rather, excuse me, not Rome.
andrew bishop
And you have to wait in line.
Yeah, you have to wait in line to enter in the morning when we went.
joe rogan
But the Vatican being its own country is so strange.
And then you get in and you're like, this might be the richest country ever.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like look at all the art.
andrew bishop
They have so much art.
joe rogan
It's just Peter's Basilica.
Whatever whatever you believe, if you go to that, you'll be awestruck.
andrew bishop
It's it's literally like you walk in and you get it.
You're just covered.
joe rogan
You're blown away.
You're blown away.
And it didn't it take like four or five hundred years to make.
brandon coleman
I'm sure.
unidentified
I mean it's to c I mean.
joe rogan
This was all people with no computers and no power drills.
brandon coleman
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
No s no power saws, like how.
How dedicated were you, motherfuckers?
brandon coleman
I will say that's what some of my favorite memories of Europe last year was seeing cathedrals, how beautiful they are.
It's kind of screwed up.
They were like charging people at the door.
andrew bishop
No, that was yeah, Anglican.
brandon coleman
It wasn't Catholic, no.
andrew bishop
Catholics.
joe rogan
Look at that.
andrew bishop
You can enter.
Anglican will charge you.
joe rogan
And when you see it, you the photos are beautiful, but being there in person, you realize the scale of it all.
And it's it's almost impossible.
It's impossible to imagine the dedication and the craftsmanship that was involved in making something so important.
andrew bishop
And there's a whole cryp underneath with all the It's like we moved backwards.
brandon coleman
How did stuff stop being beautiful?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
drew nix
It's so plain.
joe rogan
The construction methods got much more convenient.
brandon coleman
You see a like a picture of a train from back in the day, how like just beautiful a public train used to be.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
andrew bishop
Old cars are just a big thing.
joe rogan
How about you ever see economy seating from like the nineteen sixties?
I wish I could have looked amazing.
andrew bishop
They were smoking cigarettes on them airplane.
brandon coleman
Turning up back then on flights, dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were smoking cigarettes in couches.
They had these big ass seats.
Everybody looked relaxed.
brandon coleman
Rappers don't even do that now.
I mean, that they were like living it up back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were living it.
andrew bishop
I I really couldn't imagine sitting on an airplane next to somebody smoking a cigarette thing.
joe rogan
Oh, I when I was a kid.
andrew bishop
It has to be suffocating, right?
joe rogan
Oh, it was horrible.
And if you got a ticket like late, you had to sit in the smoking section.
So you're in the back of the bus or the back of the plane.
Oh and it went and if you had to go to the toilet, you had to go past all the people smoking.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's economy seating.
andrew bishop
That looks nice.
jamie vernon
Turbulence.
brandon coleman
No wonder people are so depressed nowadays.
joe rogan
Well, they did have seat belts, didn't they?
jamie vernon
I don't like it.
joe rogan
Or it doesn't look like they do.
No, it don't look like a lot.
brandon coleman
You might die.
joe rogan
Well, the luggage in overhead compartments.
They still have overhead compartments.
andrew bishop
Those look pretty shallow.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are overhead compartments.
jamie vernon
The lights.
andrew bishop
People probably traveled air running.
joe rogan
Do you think that's fake?
It might be AI generated.
They might be bullshitting us.
But there are definitely real showdowns.
I think it's legit.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
747 from the 1960s.
brandon coleman
Is there like a stand-up bar?
Didn't they have like a stand-up bar section where you walk around and go get a drink?
joe rogan
So that's a different size plane though.
But it depends on like where you're going and how far you're flying.
brandon coleman
There's no overhead storage, it looks like.
andrew bishop
They were actually talking to each other.
unidentified
Look at the colors of the seats and by the way, the stewardesses were hot.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like hot stewardesses.
brandon coleman
They had a you had to be hot to be a stewardess back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, weird.
andrew bishop
Also, what happened to fashion?
These people are dressed up very nice on an airplane.
And now we're you know, people are showing up in yoga pants.
joe rogan
People used to dress yoga pants.
jamie vernon
That's first class.
joe rogan
Don't be hating on yoga pants, bro.
andrew bishop
I should have worn mine, dang it.
joe rogan
But it went well with your chain.
And the mustache.
Nothing but like shirtless, chain, mustache, and then I'm not sure.
brandon coleman
I don't know why people were calling me a lesbian.
unidentified
Yeah, the uh Theobine comments coming back.
andrew bishop
People were like, oh, he looks like Matthew McConaughey.
I was like, dang, where are they talking about me?
And they're like, and it was Brandon, they're like, who's this this mustache lesbian that keeps talking?
brandon coleman
I was like, dang.
What did I do?
andrew bishop
Yeah, what did I do?
joe rogan
Well, people will find a way to get you.
andrew bishop
Yeah, I don't read those.
I just have Brandon send me screenshots.
joe rogan
You get in there, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
My feelings will get hurt.
joe rogan
Man.
unidentified
I get a lot of Elvis like, oh, he's looks like Elvis, he looks like Elvis.
brandon coleman
That's why I won't do karate.
Oh, he's doing karate like Elvis.
I'm just like, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a good thing to get out your aggression though.
It's a good thing to calm yourself.
brandon coleman
I want to do something, man.
I want to do boxing.
joe rogan
Yeah, something do some Muay Thai.
Have some guy hold pads for you.
If you started out with Shotokan, you know.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get some guy to hold pads for you when you're on the road.
andrew bishop
Drew Drew's tier down forty plus pounds in the last how long?
drew nix
Uh I'd say about ten months.
joe rogan
Really?
That's great.
What'd you do?
drew nix
I fasted.
So I did like 16 hour fasts pretty much every day.
joe rogan
Okay.
Intermittent fasting.
Uh-huh.
Nice.
drew nix
And uh just that alone.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing?
drew nix
Dude, 30 pounds by itself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
drew nix
And then I started working out a few weeks ago, and I've just been doing it like every single day.
joe rogan
Don't you feel a million times better?
drew nix
One thousand percent.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Like you want to tell people, I know it sucks to start.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
Starting something is hard to do, changing the habits of your life are very hard to do.
But if you could do it, God, you'll feel so much better.
drew nix
Yeah.
I mean, like, I can't even go a day without running the It feels like I I will feel bad.
joe rogan
Isn't that incredible?
drew nix
Yeah, dude.
I love it so much.
joe rogan
And you think about the time where you felt bad all the time and that was your base state.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot of people that are complaining online too.
There's a lot of people that just they're uncomfortable just walking around in life.
Yeah, they're filled with anxiety and angst and ugh.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just fucking do sake a wall.
Do something.
andrew bishop
I mean, it will cure a lot of things, just exercise alone.
joe rogan
I mean Well it's one point two five times better than antidepressants.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just that alone.
1.25 times better than SSRIs.
andrew bishop
Everybody's always it's just so blows my mind, even growing up as a kid, all these fat burning pills and all these shortcuts to lose weight and the Ozempic thing.
It's like not you will there's no shortcut.
It is diet and exercise.
joe rogan
Yeah.
drew nix
Lean mean, baby.
joe rogan
I think for people that are like morbidly obese, like something like OZMP is it's it's gonna be the It'll help you.
drew nix
It's the catalyst of get you started.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's just getting started.
It's just like getting momentum going.
Where you're doing something positive every day.
And then you know, next thing you know, it's five days in a row, next thing you know, it's a month in a row, you're like, I'm feeling fucking good.
I got I really have a good program going on now.
I'm feeling better, everything's healthy.
And that's a lot of life is just having positive momentum in the right direction.
brandon coleman
We're creatures of habit and we learn to walk by forming a habit.
And you can form good habits.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brandon coleman
You know?
You get to a point where like you said, I man, I didn't get my running today.
I feel weird.
And so, oh I need to go to the gym.
I need to feel a pump or something.
You get that habit going, man.
joe rogan
And for some people it's meditation, for some people it's yoga.
But just do something.
Do something.
Do something positive.
You know, don't just exist.
andrew bishop
I hope that for America we'll get fit again.
joe rogan
Well, that would be nice.
andrew bishop
We need that.
joe rogan
I feel like that's it.
drew nix
I feel like it's shifting.
I feel like it.
andrew bishop
Yeah, I think it's a good idea.
drew nix
I mean, there's a lot of people.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are shifting.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
Well, I think like with our grandparents, they didn't the importance wasn't known yet of how important moving like if you don't use your joints, you're gonna lose them when you're old.
And that's why we have, you know, old people are all slumped over and old.
I hope when our generation gets there, we know how important exercise is and when we're eighty years old, we can still run a mile, you know.
joe rogan
Or you just go to the doctor and they give you a new body.
andrew bishop
Or that too.
joe rogan
That's probably gonna happen.
brandon coleman
Stress my legs out.
andrew bishop
Yeah, yeah.
Some new knees.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just take your brain and download it into a new body.
brandon coleman
Have they tried the head transplant yet?
joe rogan
Uh they have done a head transplant.
brandon coleman
It'll work.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
The person died, but they kept them alive for a short period of time.
They did it to a dog or the dog.
And then they I think they did do it to a person.
brandon coleman
That Nazi video of the doghead's weird.
Oh, made me feel weird.
joe rogan
Well, the Nazis tried a lot of shit.
They experimented with a lot of shit.
That's it's really dark.
It's like a lot of like medical experiments we found out through the city.
andrew bishop
For the Nazis, yeah.
Like spreading intestines across the wall to see how GI tracks work and Yeah.
brandon coleman
Like they're poking on people's brain while they're still acting.
drew nix
It's gonna be a smelly room, dude.
andrew bishop
Oh yeah, I would imagine.
joe rogan
Well, with genetic engineering, hopefully they don't have to do any of that.
But it's it is gonna be weird if you could just choose your body.
drew nix
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like everyone's gonna look beautiful.
Everyone's gonna be looking like Thor.
You know?
But Chris Hemsworth's walking around the world.
It's gonna be very strange.
brandon coleman
At that point, God's just gonna Alright, that's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
drew nix
Me and my uh wife are looking into IVF right now, and they were uh they're like, Do you want to pick a ginger?
andrew bishop
You can do that.
drew nix
Yeah.
I mean, if you had your choice, would you want to pick?
andrew bishop
And I was like, that's something you gotta I'm gonna need a week to think about.
joe rogan
And why why are you looking into IVF?
Why are you doing that?
drew nix
Um, so my wife has um scar tissue, and so she had to she had a mass on her uh f one of her fallopian tubes.
joe rogan
Oh, so they have to do it this way.
Yeah.
So Well see, in that way, medical science is brilliant.
andrew bishop
Yep, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
And it would be cool if that was covered by insurance.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would be.
drew nix
There's a program called Carrot now that runs through our um through our insurance that you can do it on.
andrew bishop
Oh what?
drew nix
So it's it'll cool.
joe rogan
It's quite expensive though, right?
Isn't it like thirty thousand dollars a shot?
drew nix
Uh something like that.
joe rogan
And it doesn't always work the first time you have to try it again.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
But my wife puts it as uh you know, your baby's just taking the scenic route.
Because A lot of people feel funny about they feel funny about getting IBF, but it's like there's nothing wrong with IBM.
joe rogan
Listen, if it allows you to become a parent and it's the most rewarding thing in life to become a parent, to me at least.
It changes everything, changes your whole life, changes your perspective on things.
Dave Chappelle said it best to me, said it didn't just change the amount of love I had, it changed my capacity for love.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if you can give that to people, that's beautiful.
Yeah.
Especially like there's a real population comp collapse problem.
brandon coleman
Yeah, I was gonna say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and a lot of countries it's real serious.
brandon coleman
But some countries where it's not.
Some countries where they're overproducing, it's like isn't England like below the rate they need to be.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ch Japan is real bad.
andrew bishop
Isn't China's upside down to the other?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know what Japan or China is, but I know Japan has a real issue.
South Korea has a huge issue.
andrew bishop
It's funny.
I wonder why it's the Asian countries.
joe rogan
They work hard.
They're busting their ass all the time, they don't have time to make kids.
I mean, if you're like super dedicated to it to work and super disciplined, and Korea, uh South Korea in particular, is very very disciplined culture, very hard working culture.
So if they're career oriented and disciplined, those are the type of people that have less kids.
andrew bishop
I'd like to see where they're the highest and where they're the lowest and see you know, is it like Europe?
Is it Northern Europe producing more children?
brandon coleman
I've seen a map of it, I can't remember what's what, but poor countries.
It was kind of scary.
joe rogan
A lot of poor countries.
brandon coleman
Because that's how a culture disappears over time is low birth rates.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Yeah, no doubt.
Yeah, so do your part.
Get that IVF, son.
brandon coleman
Have babies.
joe rogan
Have babies.
Um we should cover?
We good?
brandon coleman
I mean, I think we're I think the the single coming out October third is was all I wanted to make sure I talked about.
But I mean we've talked about a lot.
joe rogan
You guys are fucking great.
I enjoy you very much.
Uh listen to you guys all the time in the green room.
You're in the green room playlist at the mothership.
andrew bishop
Heck yeah.
joe rogan
So we we love you guys.
brandon coleman
You gotta come catch a show sometime, man.
joe rogan
I love to.
brandon coleman
Did I tell you the story uh the Kill Tony story?
joe rogan
No.
brandon coleman
So our first time 2024 was a wild year for us.
Like we got into Kill Tony and we were loving it and watching it, and then a couple months later it's like, you guys want to go see Shane Gillis?
And we were like, Yeah.
They got us like they pulled us up backstage, and as soon as we get out of the van, Tony's sitting there smoking a cigarette.
He's like, Hey, what's up, guys?
You know, and so we were starstruck immediately.
And then met Shane and we kind of felt like Shane didn't know who we were, so we think he slipped off to the green room to look us up and come up.
drew nix
It's like you guys just had a number one hit, congratulations.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you come back with a Google quote.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
Well that was that was just incredible.
And then like a few months later, we actually get to go to kill Tony, and that was just another mind blown, incredible.
Oh my god, what is happening?
And they were like, hey, somebody was like, uh Rogan wasn't gonna come out or not, but he wants to meet you guys, so you know, he's gonna come out a midsies and talk to you guys.
Cool, man.
They get a little little nervous, a little freaked out.
And um we were in Mitsi's hanging out with Hans Cam and Cam and all those guys, and then turn around and there you are sitting there.
I was like, Oh my god, there he is.
And you were standing there talking to people though.
andrew bishop
Yeah, you got s swallowed up immediately as you walked in the door.
brandon coleman
And uh me and Andrew were sitting at the bar, and there's like, all right, I'm going in.
I was like, No, man, just wait.
andrew bishop
I was like, you want to talk to him?
I'm just gonna send it, buddy.
I'll send this for you.
brandon coleman
Yeah, let's say.
andrew bishop
Hey, Mr. Joe.
Let's my friend Brand Yeah, let it happen naturally.
brandon coleman
Let it happen naturally.
And so we I was sitting there waiting on my time to strike, and I turned around to talk to somebody, and I turned back around where you were and you were gone.
So I was like, I felt like just the the biggest hammer drop of all time.
I was like, dang, man.
I felt extra bad because I was told that you wouldn't want to come out, but you were coming out to meet us, and I felt like we just sat there and ignored you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I didn't know you guys were there.
brandon coleman
Okay.
joe rogan
I did come out, I did come out to meet you guys, but I got swarmed and it was just like I get weird sometimes.
I'm like, gotta go.
So yeah, it was just get out of there.
andrew bishop
You had like six people you were carrying a conversation with at one time.
brandon coleman
So we weren't about to be on top of that.
andrew bishop
Well, we know we we will cross paths when time's needed.
joe rogan
We did it.
brandon coleman
I saw you also and I missed my chance again at UFC in December.
joe rogan
Which one?
brandon coleman
In Vegas.
joe rogan
Uh okay.
brandon coleman
Yeah, you were uh you were commentating and we were uh across from you on the other side of the arena.
Theo was sitting behind you, I think, and we were on the direct other side.
Incredible experience.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
This is the first time you guys have ever been.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
And uh Theo actually he got an extra ticket to Super Slap and he invited me out of that Fontaine Court.
Power Slap, yeah.
andrew bishop
Odd sports.
brandon coleman
That won't be a that won't be around for a long time.
andrew bishop
That is a CTE brain garnish.
joe rogan
Yeah, a factory.
brandon coleman
Brain damage is coming.
joe rogan
It's a CTE farm.
I don't get it.
It's not my thing.
andrew bishop
I mean, obviously.
joe rogan
100% terrible for you.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
andrew bishop
I mean, they are I mean, they're concussed.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew bishop
I mean, has there been a second impact syndrome case yet in Powerslap?
joe rogan
Powerslap's only been around for a couple years.
andrew bishop
Oh shit.
brandon coleman
Dana's gonna be paying money to like keep the studies away.
No, we gotta keep this going.
joe rogan
I just don't like it.
I don't know why people like it.
But I do watch it.
If somebody show sends me a video and I watch some guy get slap KO'd, I will watch it because I watched two hours or an hour of fucking dick operations last night.
andrew bishop
How do you feel about like bare knuckle?
joe rogan
That's different.
I mean uh it's dangerous, it is skillful.
It's like there's guys that are really good at it and guys that avoid being hit and guys that are just really durable and they make their mark and that.
Like look, if you could punch someone with regular gloves, why can't you punch someone bare knuckled?
It's probably better for your brain because you can't hit get hit as hard slightly not standing there just waiting for it.
andrew bishop
You get a lot of that connection though, when they hit and you don't have a glove one, you see you see them.
Yeah, but you see the the shock it puts through you.
brandon coleman
The noise power slap makes in real life is uncanny.
It's weird.
When you hear that in real life, it's like I've never heard a noise like that before, and that was on somebody's face.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not good.
And sometimes they f they get KO'd and then their head slaps the table and then they fall backwards stiff and like combo.
I don't like it.
brandon coleman
I felt weird.
It's like watching a cock fight or something.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah.
But hey, you know, you sign up.
brandon coleman
Yeah.
joe rogan
You want to do it.
No one's forcing you.
Do whatever you want.
You want to ride bowls?
Go ahead.
You want to flip bikes?
Whatever you want to do.
brandon coleman
Yeah, some people.
joe rogan
You want to evil can your way through life?
brandon coleman
After that, though, it was we got to meet Dana and he he hooked us up with the fight tickets.
joe rogan
Oh nice.
brandon coleman
I seen you.
And then say, oh, this will be my chance.
And you would we I after where we left our seats and then we were going out, and then you immediately stood up and walked right in front of where I was sitting.
I was like, dang, I missed a joke.
andrew bishop
All right, is the White House thing supposedly we wanna there's supposed there's a concert aspect to it.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew bishop
We want to put our name in a bucket.
joe rogan
Is there really?
andrew bishop
Supposedly.
joe rogan
Oh wow.
Interesting.
Who's supposed to perform so far?
andrew bishop
I don't think anybody yet.
joe rogan
Oh, I didn't even know there was a concert aspect to it.
andrew bishop
That's what we've heard.
Our agents heard at least.
drew nix
Interesting.
joe rogan
Uh this is the first time I've heard of it.
That makes sense though.
drew nix
Come play our sad music for the heck yeah.
joe rogan
Emotional.
It's emotional music.
I don't think it's sad.
It doesn't make me sad.
Um Yeah, the White House thing's gonna be nuts, but listen, man, that's June.
That is so long from now.
Who the fuck knows what's gonna happen in this wacky world between now and June.
The aliens could have already landed.
andrew bishop
I can't wait to see the card though.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
andrew bishop
I hope it happens.
joe rogan
Well, he's gonna try to put together the greatest card of all time.
I know that.
So they're gonna try to get as many insane fights as they can.
brandon coleman
Before people come jumping on us for that, it's like it'd be an honor to play at the White House, period, no matter who's in office.
What happened to just being able to go and meet the president without being a little bit more than a little bit?
joe rogan
It should be cool.
brandon coleman
It should be a cool thing.
joe rogan
It shouldn't be polarized.
andrew bishop
I'd like to meet Trump, but I'd also like to meet Obama.
He seems pretty dang cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
brandon coleman
That would be cool.
Just going to the White House would be a big honor.
andrew bishop
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sure.
Sure.
Well, hopefully you guys can.
brandon coleman
Yeah, we'll see.
Who cares?
joe rogan
Keep kicking ass.
You'll get there.
andrew bishop
We'll see.
joe rogan
By the time you get in there.
Um but thank you for being here.
I appreciate you guys very much.
And thanks for making awesome music.
It's been fun to meet you.
brandon coleman
Awesome.
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All right.
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