Knowledge Fight #393 dissects Alex Jones’ January 28, 2020, episode where he falsely claimed the coronavirus was patented by China and Gates ($2B+ in vaccine sales), despite USDA data showing negligible 2020 food inflation (0.5–1.5%). He blamed Seattle’s outbreak on Chinese students—no cases existed—and pushed MyPatriotSupply food buckets, ignoring his own prior price hikes. Guest Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a debunked Holocaust denier, absurdly claimed he was the first U.S. coronavirus patient while Alex promoted vitamin D3 and fish oil as immunity boosts, despite earlier dismissals of such opportunism. Their unfounded theories, military border calls, and ignored Sandy Hook ties reveal fear-mongering over facts to drive sales. [Automatically generated summary]
And what you realize, like, sort of in hindsight, is like they had to do all this stuff that's kind of unsatisfying and a little bit like, oh, disappointing in order to get you to enjoy when McIntyre does Lesnar out.
So in hindsight, I kind of enjoyed that.
And then the rest of the people who came out, like, you know, it is what it is for the rest of the Rumble.
Yeah, he was uh uh and and he had like a really really traumatizing neck injury about 10 years ago, okay, and he had to retire, and it was just like this horrible thing where you know he has this emotional retirement and like you know, he loves being in that.
He had some of the craziest moments from like back when I remember watching wrestling.
Like he, he, he, uh, and Christian, these two guys were a tag team, and uh, they had these insane matches with the Hardy Boys, like tables, ladders, and chairs matches where they did just things that were like you should be dead, the whole thing, you should be dead, absolutely stuff, yeah.
And so, anyway, he had to retire, and it never seemed like he was ever going to come back.
And he came out in the 21 spot in the 21, and the whole place went apesh.
Yeah, his hit, and it was just out of control.
Yeah, yeah, people freaking out, amazing.
But what I found really amazing about it was like if like watching the moment when he comes through the fog, the smoke machine that he has, he looks almost like he's gonna cry.
Yeah, like just this moment of I am back doing this thing.
There's a put wrestling aside, there is just such a human moment you can see in his face of like a stadium full of people getting to feel that moment again.
Yeah, of like, this is what I was, I was meant to do, I never thought I'd be able to do it again.
It's just so universal, and it just like it is amazing, yeah, yeah.
I wanted to not do a present day episode because we've done a couple in a row, and I think we all kind of get the sense that Alex is just going to be talking about the coronavirus and really exaggerating and being irresponsible about it.
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But isn't it interesting that the coronavirus has been heavily studied by the Chinese communist government, by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and through a sub-foundation that Bill and his father fund, two years ago, they patented the coronavirus for use in a vaccine, and now they may be able to rush it into production to protect you and your family.
Aren't we just blessed and lucky?
Just the media said there is no one in the world.
Yes, we are.
It's a conspiracy theory.
There's sites out there saying that there's government groups and others that have vaccines secretly developed, and that this has been staged to push vaccines on the public.
But now, NBC News, JJ's scientific officer, pretty confident they can create coronavirus vaccine as outbreak widens because they've got a bunch of patented viruses of it that have been patented for use in a vaccine.
Based on the entire history of every situation that's ever happened like this.
You can see here how Alex has incorporated that chicken vaccine patent into his narrative and laundered it.
So now it's just accepted fact.
This is often how Alex works.
And it's one of the things that honestly is the most frustrating about doing this kind of work.
If you aren't listening when the narrative launches, it's often completely impossible to track down what he's talking about because he just speaks in vague buzzwords that evoke something to his audience, but lack any of the details you would need to confirm what he's saying.
If you didn't know that he's lying about the Purebright Institute having a patent for a vaccine for poultry, it would be really hard to take the details of what he said in that last clip and trace it down and be able to learn more about what he's talking about.
The media didn't say that it was a conspiracy theory that people were working on a vaccine.
Many of the articles that I've read and preparing for these episodes have mentioned that work was underway, but that it would take a while if it was even really possible at all.
Coronaviruses are notoriously hard to create vaccines for.
And generally, doctors tend to take the approach of just managing symptoms, which are often the most dangerous part of the virus.
For instance, in the case of SARS, it was often how it led to pneumonia that was the biggest concern for medical professionals.
So Alex is making up all that stuff about them having patents on the coronaviruses, which is allowing the scientists to do their work.
There's an article in the New England Journal of Medicine from January 24th, which discusses a CDC investigation and research team going to Wuhan and collecting samples, from which they were able to identify the viral genome sequence of this strain.
All the information is perfectly available, but Alex would rather yell about the Gates family funding animal disease research because it helps him build panic.
His business model largely relies on his audience being scared.
And events like this are basically his sweeps week.
It's like a Super Bowl for him.
And it's legitimately disgusting.
That article that Alex is referencing is about Johnson Johnson, or JJ, and how their chief scientific officer said he's confident that they could make a vaccine.
Alex didn't read this article, hence calling them J and J. He's just reading a headline.
There's nothing in that article that talks about them having patented viruses and just mixing them all up.
In fact, the article explicitly says, quote, Stoffels, who's the Johnson Johnson chief scientific officer, said that the pharmaceutical company needed to start from scratch on this vaccine, which kind of runs counter to the narrative that Alex is pushing.
We have had sources through the big food industry and through several major food suppliers that institutional groups, governmental groups, corporate groups are buying up all the food.
And that the food prices, raw food prices, are skyrocketing.
Well, that indeed is now happening, and you're now seeing that in the news today.
And storable food is selling out everywhere.
Most of the big storable food suppliers are already sold out because they sold out to big institutional groups.
My Patriot that puts out Infowar Select, that's their entire line of food, just an InfoWars sticker on it, still has food.
They're still able to guarantee delivery within seven to nine days.
Other people will tell you they can do that.
I can tell you most of them won't.
But that could change at any time.
That means if you get your order in now, you will get it within seven to nine days.
So interestingly, the U.S. Department of Agriculture just put out their food price outlook report for 2020.
And what do you know?
It's the exact opposite of what Alex is saying.
From the report, quote, the 2020 Consumer Price Index forecast indicates a continuation of low inflation at grocery stores and supermarkets.
In 2020, food at home prices are expected to increase in the range of between 0.5 and 1.5%, as potentially the fifth year in a row with deflating or lower than average inflating retail food prices.
See, there's a 20-year historical average of 2% rise in food prices.
So this is well within or even below that average.
Given overall inflation factors, this could be a maintaining or even decreasing of point of purchase price for consumers within the United States.
This is true the United States, where Alex's primary market of listeners is located.
However, it's not uniformly true in the world.
For instance, India is currently seeing food prices jump considerably, with most experts pointing to oil price instability as being a major factor in the country's retail market inflation.
Another major driver is the supply chain.
To quote an article from Courts India, quote, prices of vegetables and many fruits were driven high because crop damages caused by excessive and unseasonal rains, which hit supplies.
I can't imagine that many of these people in India that are affected by this are in the target market of Alex's food buckets, though.
So there's also a recent article in the BBC about how Brexit will likely lead to higher food prices in the UK, and the people there would probably just need to adjust to that.
But Alex is in favor of Brexit, so it doesn't seem like he would want to bring that up as a potential consequence of readjustment.
Yeah, it does seem like Brexit is going poorly when after everybody's already agreed to Brexit, now they're getting all of these like, oh, yeah, your food prices are going to go up.
There are laws in place in the United States that forbid price gouging in situations when a state of emergency has been declared, but that law doesn't apply to other countries.
And honestly, you can find a lot of people here in the United States that take the position that if you are in the position to sell someone something they need to survive, you should be able to charge them whatever the fuck you want.
These people are often libertarians, which Alex pretends to be.
So I don't know what philosophical position he comes from where he's opposed to price gouging.
Anyway, my point here is that the rising food prices in Wuhan are a concern, and it's something that the Chinese government has made clear that they are aware of.
And we will see what happens from there.
The larger point here is that Alex is selling these food buckets not to people in Wuhan.
He's selling them to people in the United States.
He's trying to use the optics of that city in quarantine to push his products, which is disgusting.
And it does seem odd that you would be selling food buckets if previously we've already confirmed that the world is already done and the human race is ended.
Given that the Department of Agriculture has said that food prices are not projected to go up, it seems like some of the narrative he's doing, this might just be a rationalization for him rising prices so he can make a little money, which he's been clear he's not been doing lately.
Generally, the guideline that people go by is that, you know, the six-phase model that we discussed on the last episode.
Phase six in a pandemic is the pandemic phase in an outbreak, which is characterized by a quote, virus causing community-level outbreaks in at least two World Health Organization regions.
According to that definition, the coronavirus outbreak does not constitute a pandemic at this point.
There is a community-level outbreak in China, but we do not have evidence that is the case in any other region where there have been cases confirmed.
So even if Alex wants to talk about the World Health Organization's definition, it doesn't apply.
But it turns out that he's not talking about the UN definition.
He's not even talking about the World Health Organization definition.
People use the word exponentially to just mean something is growing rapidly, like in the colloquial sense, but it does have an actual meaning that Alex definitely doesn't know.
It means that growth is characterized by this multiplication, not by doubling.
At the first interval, it's just the base growth rate.
At the second, it's that rate squared.
At the third, it's that rate cubed, and so on.
Typically, in the early stages of viruses spreading, they do sometimes tend to show exponential growth until there's a countervailing force against it, like a vaccine or some sort of an intervention method.
This is not really all that controversial, but it's a little strange to recognize that Alex doesn't know what the word exponential means.
Also, the Merriam-Webster definition of pandemic has literally no bearing on what the World Health Organization or UN might declare to be a pandemic.
Alex can't use this dictionary to pull some kind of a gotcha on this one.
So, you know, he's creating fear about this outbreak, certainly.
But one of the other things that he's doing is he's now at the stage in his coverage where it's important to pivot this fear into what's going to come.
Sure.
Because he knows that eventually he won't be able to make money on this forever.
In China, you've got a lot of rundown people and a lot of pollution.
And whenever these viruses break out there, they have a higher kill rate in China than they do in other parts of the world.
Still, it's a terrible thing.
But it's the response to it and the vaccine they've got in the wings.
I've got articles here where they're saying, oh, Google and Facebook are blocking liars, claiming that this was made in a lab and that they've got a vaccine for it and it's part of a larger plan.
Who wouldn't speculate like that with the long histories of secret testing on the public by this government and others and the tainted vaccines and the things they've been caught adding and sock admitting they put cancer viruses in it and said, ah, there's too many people anyways.
I can play PBS interviews if you want to see them.
I think that these places like Facebook, these platforms have a certain amount of responsibility to tamp down on some of the stuff that could be dangerous, that could lead to people being hurt.
I think that it's totally fine.
When Alex says, why wouldn't you speculate about this stuff?
It's one thing to be speculative.
It's another to be a liar who's trying to sell food buckets and weird pills.
According to a BBC report from January 28th, the day of this episode, the confirmed death toll is currently at 106.
Conversely, SARS killed 778 people.
But another important aspect of that is that there were deaths in 17 different countries from SARS, as opposed to the current situation, which has been entirely in China.
A death is a death.
That is true.
But from the perspective of gauging the spread of a virus, it matters a lot where the deaths are happening.
If they're in a bunch of different countries, it demonstrates a different situation.
Alex is completely outside the accepted reality with his claim that thousands and thousands have died from this outbreak.
I suspect that he's getting this information from noted Muslim hater Pamela Geller's website, where she posted a breaking story about there being 10,000 dead.
According to factcheck.com, this story was sourced from a blog post on a website that's largely about gold, quote, which has a disclaimer that says it can't vouch for the accuracy or completeness of its information.
This website, jsmindset.com, had published an email an anonymous person sent them who was relating a phone call he'd had with a friend who had spoken to a Chinese friend who had information from family in Wuhan.
If you're keeping track, at best, this is fourthhand information at the point of this blog posting it.
The alleged family in Wuhan is first.
The Chinese friend is second.
The friend on the phone is third.
And the anonymous emailer is fourthhand.
Then Pamela Geller using this site as a source makes it fifthhand information on her site.
No one who operates a legitimate news or information outlet would ever accept this kind of work.
Alex is misusing the information also in that Lancet article that he's talking about.
In the actual article, researchers examined 59 cases of people who had been admitted to Chinese hospital with pneumonia symptoms, which they then whittled down to 41 cases who also tested positive for the novel coronavirus.
All of them had pneumonia, which indicates that these are all the most severe sort of cases among the larger population of people who come down with the virus.
Just on this count, this is not a fair study to extrapolate to the entire population or even the entire population of people who come down with the coronavirus.
And none would take that information that is provided in this paper and then say that it is uniformly true all the time.
all sorts of cases.
The report does say that there's a 15% incidence of patients in that 41 sample size who died, which is six of them.
However, 28 individuals or 68% recovered and were discharged from the hospital, but Alex doesn't want to point that out.
Also, it's hard to say if there's any direct parallels here, but of the sample set that they had, 15% of the patients also had preexisting hypertension, and 15% had a history of cardiovascular disease.
Based on the information available in the report, I can't say if those are all the same 15% or it's just to illustrate that there are commingling variables that Alex isn't considering and make this a different picture.
I don't think anybody thinks that most, I mean, maybe I'm way off base since we're dealing with Alex and people believe anything, but in most viral cases, nobody is saying that the most healthy members of society are going to instantly die if they get this coronavirus.
It's generally the old, the insurmount, and the children.
Also, the report even says, quote, with the limited number of cases, it's difficult to assess host risk factors for disease severity and mortality with multi-variable adjusted methods.
This is a modest-sized case series of patients admitted to hospital.
Collection of standardized data for the larger cohorts would help to further define the clinical presentation, natural history, and risk factors.
To put that more succinctly, what they're saying is this is a small group that we looked at, and we'd need more information to know if any of this could be explained by other variables about the specific people that we looked at or whatever impact that might have had on the results.
Interestingly, even this study doesn't say there's a death rate of 18%.
It says 15%.
This, again, is another example of Alex being unable to stop himself from exaggerating, from lying to make his narratives more severe.
He strips literally all context from this Lancet report and exaggerates its conclusion while simultaneously blindly reporting as gospel some dumb fifth hand bullshit Pamela Geller posts on her blog this is just embarrassing and dangerous work here and he should be ashamed of himself this is awful I don't even like awful stuff I don't even like the use of a percentage whenever you're dealing with such a small sample size like it's I would prefer a fraction because 15% people go like oh well 15 out of 100 not six out of 40.
I haven't made this announcement yet because I don't know how to make it, but if you go to Infowars.com and you see the live feed headline, it's official, this is now a global pandemic.
Coronavirus is now a global pandemic.
But what does it say right after that?
U.s officials believe that the virus has already broken out of containment on the west coast.
You've been harping, and so have I for more than three weeks, that this could be a bioweapon release to bring down the global economy as a way to counter nationalism.
And the globalists have said bad economies will hurt nationalists.
Something like this virus outbreak is not just a natural phenomenon that people need to come together and try and mitigate the damages, help each other as best as possible.
No, it's an attack on Trump and nationalism.
This virus, this virus was released by the globalists in order to spread fear, panic, whatever, crash the stock market, which, you know, the dominoes, you keep seeing which one falls.
I have sources in industry that have talked to all the big storable foods company heads and institutional buyers started last week buying up all the food they had.
Then it exploded and by Friday, basically everybody was sold out except a few suppliers that are amongst the biggest like my Patriot supply that we private label from.
Literally.
Other places are telling you they're going to have storable food, but they're already sold out.
My Patriot is boxing and making it as fast as they can because it's fresh.
When you get it through InfowarShore.com, that helps fund us the exact same assembly line.
Just our stickers are thrown on it.
Info or select.
And that was done before, so we can offer you an even lower price.
But I'm not engaging a plug here.
As much as I am explaining that talking to the folks there, they said, yeah, it's big institutional buyers.
Not just us, but other folks.
Obviously, we can't say who the customers are, but it's governmental and things like that.
It's corporations.
And I said, let me guess, the West Coast.
And they said, yeah, of course, West Coast.
And they said, sure.
Seattle.
Well, obviously, that's the first place that's the biggest Chinese cities, you know, here in the United States.
Alex is trying to spin a conspiracy that the coronavirus is going to explode on the West Coast and Seattle due to the high Chinese population in Seattle, where apparently institutional buyers of food are storing up tons of stuff, so you need to act now by survival food buckets.
So that story Alex is talking about being mainstream news.
It's not.
It's bullshit.
This all started with a guy on Twitter named Kyle Bass posting a CBC news story from last July, adding the caption, quote, a husband and wife Chinese spy team were recently removed from a level four infectious disease facility in Canada for sending pathogens to the Wuhan facility.
This tweet was retweeted thousands of times and the story began to take traction in conspiracy communities.
The only problem is the article that he linked to didn't say any of that stuff.
Well, the two people who were taken out of the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg were suspected of making an administrative violation.
And every organization that's involved in this matter, as well as the CBC reporting, have stressed that nothing surrounding this case involves any kind of public danger or anything close to what this tweet is alleging.
Zero Hedge started taking this as a launching point to start speculating that China stole the virus as a bioweapon and just caught fire in the dumb, dumb worlds of people who don't read.
And my criticism of the president on this issue comes from two different vectors here.
Number one, the president, he's a very successful business person, a very intelligent person, but he does not have experience in epidemiology or virology or laboratory analytics or healthcare issues.
That's not the truth.
He's just playing on experts who are no doubt lying to him.
None of the stuff that Alex and Mike are saying is connected to reality at all.
But I think this clip is really interesting.
You have Mike basically saying that Trump isn't taking the coronavirus outbreak seriously because he doesn't want to hurt the stock market and thus hurt his chances for re-election.
Even in their fantasy world where they're bending over backwards to defend an indefensible president, they still have to fall back on excuses like Trump would act to protect the health of American citizens, but his personal interest in re-election is more important to him.
Got to have big sales now because you've got to strike while the iron's hot.
There's a situation that I can exploit to cause panic that leads people towards maybe wanting to buy the things that I have, give them better, which is move all this product.
What's interesting about is Alex, it's clear he doesn't vet any of his guests or even the people who he knows really well because spoiler alert, Steve ends up completely contradicting Alex's virus narrative.
I have no idea if Steve actually knows John Bolton, although I can say that the last time Steve was definitely in the State Department was prior to Bolton entering public service.
At that time, John Bolton was a lawyer at the firm of Covington and Burling.
Also, Steve did warn Alex about John Bolton and said Trump can't allow him to be in the White House.
And Alex didn't listen to him because Roger told him that Bolton was cool.
President Xi appreciated what Trump had said about transparency in China, about the fact that Xi had done an appropriate seclusion of different areas, and he tied off Hunan and Hubei because of the flu epidemic.
So Steve has this weird thing where he thinks that the newspapers talk to him and he thinks that he's speaking back to powerful people when he comes on Alex's show or he makes his YouTube videos.
And I would generally err on the side of thinking it's like just sort of a flourish of language or something, but it's so consistent.
Like in this next clip, he really seems to think like he's sending a message to Nancy Pelosi through Alex's show.
He's really seems to be expressing that through Alex's show, they have taught Nancy Pelosi about the nature of a republic, and she's gone and done some research on it.
My goal is to promote the lifestyle and freedom and things that I think are great up against the tyranny that the globalists promote because I believe you're going to want to buy in to having a free, open, truly constitutional renaissance-based system or the American system versus the Chi-Com system or the EU, you know, return of modern nobility models or all those oldenic wants.
And so that's what InfoWars promotes.
Notice, for the last few months, I'm saying, hey, our great vitamin D3 is known in all these big studies to really be antiviral and very strong and equivalent of getting sunlight in the winter.
It's getting sun that helps boost your immunity.
And it's people that have the deficiencies that are open to this stuff.
And again, knock on wood, I haven't had a fever in over four years, and it's because I take fish oil every day.
The reason I can guarantee is because I treated a patient a month ago.
Was really the first case of the coronavirus before it was ever reported of a gentleman who met with a Chinese individual and got the pneumonia and was treated with high doses of antibiotics.
And I am to know this individual very well because that individual happens to be me.
First case to have it in the United States.
And now I'm saying to the Public Health Service and the Attorney General, get your act together.
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Steve Pachetic is patient zero of the coronavirus.
I know we're past that, but when you're claiming that you treated yourself for the first case of this coronavirus, he does everything that's important.
I don't know how you can listen to a man say confidently and just so proudly, proudly, I was the first man with this global pandemic months, months before it became an outbreak.
Take the vitamin D, take the fish oil, stay healthy, and you're less likely to get a pneumonia because the key of getting pneumonias or coronavirus is the immunity system.
So as long as your immunity system, even if you're 60s, 70s, or you're young and you're in good shape, you take your vitamins, you work out, you stay healthy, that virus is not going to be lethal.
So that's number one.
Number two, the fact that we don't have a surgeon general and a public health service is disturbing.
Years ago, when we had the Ebola epidemic, I had to sit down with a former friend of mine and ask this individual who was the former assistant surgeon general of the United States: do we have a surgeon general?
The answer was no.
Do we have a public health service that can stop the Ebola from coming in?
No.
I said, Will you have a problem if I ordered General Dempsey and others to send over 3,000 U.S. Army and Sierra Leone?
The answer was no.
That's what we did.
And I thank our military.
I thank General Dempsey, who was chief of staff at the time, and our Army and our military officers who created a situation where there was no Ebola really coming into the United States, and they redeployed assets out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
You know, I actually ordered Tom Brady to lose in the playoffs.
Is that right?
Yeah, I ordered him to do that in order to get him the Wuhan virus, and he dropped it in Wuhan, which is ironic because we had already named it that way before.
Now, President Trump, get your act together, assign somebody as a surgeon general and create a public health service, or appoint the military, the Secretary of Defense Esper, to mobilize military so that we have a convenient way to control what comes in and out of our country.
I want him to be sat down in a deposition style thing and just asked just peppered questions about historical events just to see where he thinks he fits in.
And at this point, I should reveal, like, one of the things that I really wanted to do this episode for is because on the 27th, news broke that Wolfgang Halbig got arrested.
Yes.
The guy who Alex had on many times and was the basis for a lot of Alex's reporting about Sandy Hook.
Wolfgang Halbig got arrested because he had gotten Leonard Posner's personal information, his ID and his social security number and was sending it out to people.
Yeah, he's going to go and film a special report where he's in a helicopter.
Because, hey, look, you know, there's a lot of, you know, a lot of people with positions on Kobe.
And without getting into any of that, what I would say is the voice that really we need to hear, and the voice that no one is bringing to the table is the person who's defensive about helicopter safety.
So I think that that should be illustrative of the sort of work that he's doing.
What you see throughout this episode, very consistently, is trying to raise the temperature of people's feelings surrounding the coronavirus and then transmute that into sales.
Largely about food.
The food buckets are like primary on this episode, but also the pills.
But I think that I might have not really even been super interested in doing this episode, except for the fact that Wolfgang Halbig got arrested and Alex can't bring himself to even talk about it.