And then I saw him the last time he did my podcast, and he's like four inches shorter. And it's all from getting all of his spine fused. I was about to say, you're the same height now. I'm like, wait a minute. What happened here? He was like a big guy still. But he was, he used to be a giant. He was like this towering fucking crazy guy, bald head, thunder lips. He was so fun. That dude was so fun. But that's how many back surgeries he had. And he said it was all from that move that he had where he dropped down.

It's because they have to fuse all of his discs and he had a cane everywhere, man. He was fucked up. And he said it was from that thing that he would do where he would drop down on his ass with an elbow. So every time he did that, he fucked his backup. I mean, think about how big he was in his prime. Right. 300 plus pounds, right? So every time you're dropping down, your body's taking the shock on your ass bone of 300 plus pounds flying through the air and bouncing off the ground. So all of his discs got herniated. He had to get them all fused.

And later, I know somebody that knows Hulk, and he said, you ever call Alex Jones? Oh, yeah, I love Alex. Brother, he's a good guy.