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Female Equivalent Of Giving Flowers? Hater CONFRONTS Brian? She Says Are Men EVIL? | Dating Talk 273

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	We'll get into a few quick announcements in just a moment, but first we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So go ahead.
	Hi, my name is Willow.
	I just turned 22.
	I'm from the Bay Area, California, and I'm currently a junior studying psychology and cognitive science and a minor in statistics.
	All right, so and you said you're 21?
	I just turned 22.
	Oh, sorry, just turned 22.
	Okay.
	And you're studying, what again?
	Sorry.
	Psychology.
	Psychology, cognitive science, and statistics.
	You have double major trials?
	Double major and a minor.
	Double major and a minor.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And you just had your finals, right?
	What's your primary?
	Is there a primary major or are they both?
	It was originally just psychology, but then I added on the rest because I like to torture myself academically.
	How many classes were you taking this semester quarter?
	Only three, but I'm going to be taking 27 credits instead of 15 next quarter.
	What classes were you taking?
	I was taking adult developmental psychology, human sexuality in society, and anthropology, biological human adaptation stuff.
	And did you write essays in any of all of the three of those?
	In two of them.
	Okay.
	Question for you.
	This is all very fresh in your mind, right?
	You just took finals, right?
	New theory.
	I'm a little sleep-deprived, but I can try my best.
	What were the finals this week?
	It was a couple weeks ago now.
	Oh, a couple weeks ago.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, in any case, it's as fresh as it's going to be.
	Yes.
	From each of the three classes you took, tell me one takeaway that you can relate to us.
	I would probably have to choose human sexuality in society.
	is one of my favorite classes and I think one of the things that I a lot of very interesting things but one thing that comes to mind would be that a lot of men need to have sex with more men I think there's more gay experiences yeah Crazy, right?
	Lower the volume a little bit.
	Watch!
	I'm sorry, what?
	So basically, there was a study, and to be fair, the study is quite old.
	So it would be interesting to see it replicated.
	Who did it?
	Was it?
	Who's that guy?
	It was Kinsey.
	Kinsey.
	Yeah.
	You know, that guy's a fucking degenerate.
	Isn't he like a legend thread?
	No, that's Troy.
	Freud is probably the guy who's like, I'm thinking of Kinsey.
	Alfred Kinsey, right?
	Like with the Kinsey scale?
	I didn't learn about that part.
	I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.
	You might be right.
	Was it total degenerate?
	Doing what?
	Oh, man.
	I have to Google it.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	We didn't learn about that part.
	But anyways, okay, what did you learn?
	What did you learn?
	Just that there are a lot of straight men who identify as straight, but then will like go, like, they're down low.
	They'll go and have sex with other men, but they won't consider themselves bisexual because they don't want relationships with other men.
	And they don't necessarily like, I mean, some of the quotes from some of these guys were very interesting.
	They're like, oh, I don't even, you know, find men that attractive.
	I just like to fuck them.
	And, you know, I think just men want to get their rocks off, and that's fine.
	Yeah, I would assume this is a really small proportion of men.
	You might assume that, but, you know, I think it's a larger number than...
	Where do you go to school?
	I...
	I would prefer not to share that.
	But what area of the country?
	The Bay Area.
	Okay, so you're living in like a super lib, like super libt hard, yes.
	Super soy area.
	Absolutely.
	Soy bros everywhere.
	So I think what I, my interpretation would be probably the people in your circle, like you're a hippie liberal.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, yeah, they're probably like probably a bit gay.
	Oh, no, really?
	You think so?
	I'm not making a criticism of that.
	I'm just saying it's like probably a good chance they're bi or gay.
	Yeah.
	So, like, you're you're mapping that experience on to like frat boys at ASU?
	You're probably straight.
	Yeah, dude.
	Greek culture?
	Are you kidding?
	That's where gay shit started.
	That's where gay shit started.
	Dude, yeah, there's.
	Do you have a source for that?
	Look up.
	Oh, God, I should remember the name.
	But yeah, there was, I mean, it was like misogyny was so deeply rooted that they were like, having sex with women is disgusting and gross.
	In order to be a man, you must fuck other men.
	And they would have these like older men taking upon like younger boys as their like a mentor relationship.
	I don't know.
	I really should remember the name.
	You're right.
	I did just do my finals, but fucking once I'm done, it's out.
	But yeah.
	Wow, that's that's quite the hypothesis there.
	But I don't think I said anything crazy.
	So the big, oh, you guys have thoughts on this?
	I've only been in two serious relationships and God cheated on with men both times.
	Okay, okay.
	And then you were also raising your hand.
	Similar experience.
	You know, totally trying to date like straight men and just finding out that they cheated on me with a man or woman or whatever.
	You know, it's like.
	I feel like that's actually a very common experience for people nowadays, for women nowadays.
	Like you're in straight relationships, but you find out that he's secretly doing gay relationships.
	Just really quick on Kinsey, just because I looked it up, Alfred Kinsey, the person you were citing to, just some of my, at least the qualms that I had heard about, but I wanted to further clarify.
	He, like, his personal life and research kind of blurred together.
	He documented his own sexual behavior in detail.
	He exchanged sexual partners.
	So I don't know if he was engaged in like polygamy, basically.
	I think he was mostly straight.
	I don't know about political.
	But the biggest controversy was that he, I guess, one of the biggest criticisms is he would describe sexual responses in children.
	That's primarily what I was talking about when it came to his degeneracy.
	I think that that's a bit peculiar.
	Perhaps you're not.
	You don't think professionals should study children at all?
	Hold on.
	Be precise in your language.
	Would you like to revise your statement?
	No.
	Okay, so did I say doctors shouldn't study children?
	But isn't that what you're saying?
	That, I mean, honestly, I think the bigger criticism of him is that he was a zoologist.
	I'm not saying this guy is perfect.
	I'm just saying he's one source.
	You think zoology is a bigger criticism than doing sexual studies on children?
	I think that he, yes, zoology, he should get canceled for that.
	Are you just doing a justification for pedophilia?
	Who said he's a pedophile?
	Hold on.
	Whoa, hold on.
	He was doing reports on the sexual responses in children.
	Yeah, that's a bit.
	I don't agree with that.
	A bit peculiar.
	Are you actually going on the defensive of.
	Did you hear?
	I just said I don't agree with that.
	You made it when I, hold on, you were just like, well, what's wrong with studying children?
	I think that in response to me saying he was studying the sexual responses in children.
	Well, I don't know a lot about that study, but also, like, you know, I think that professionals, I mean, is it the craziest thing to know that there are sexually active kids?
	I think that understanding them and researching them, and I think that there's a way to do it.
	There's an ethical way and there's an unethical way.
	I don't know how he did it, but again, one source.
	I'm not saying he's my bestie.
	What's the other thing you learned from your classes or whatever?
	I can try to think of something, but I think that bisexuality is definitely on the rise.
	It makes more sense that people are naturally bisexual instead of inherently straight or gay.
	So I think that the main takeaway from Kinsey is just the Kinsey scale, and there are criticisms of that.
	But yeah.
	No, but you said you were taking some other classes.
	What were, I guess?
	Adult developmental and aging and anthropology?
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, what were.
	There's a funny one where they're trying to say there's like this rise in men, or not men, but like in human people saying that if you can drink milk, you're white, because lactase persistence is like a trait that is associated with Europeans because they grew up and were able to farm cattle and were able to get their nutrients from that.
	And the truth is, there are a lot of white people who can't drink milk, and there's a lot of people who aren't white that can.
	So I don't know.
	Not very exciting stuff.
	Okay.
	Hi, I'm Lexi.
	I'm 22 years old.
	I am a full-time student at Northeastern University in Boston.
	And I am a business and psych major.
	All right.
	And did you just have your finals?
	No, so I was actually on an internship for six months because Northeastern has a co-op program.
	So we do six months of internship and then six months of classes.
	So I was just, well, I'm still working currently.
	And you're 22, right?
	Yes.
	You're going.
	Are you in your senior year?
	Yeah, so I'm in my senior year.
	So it's a five-year program because we do the co-ops with the six months.
	So I'm a fifth-year senior.
	Gotcha.
	And you're from, are you from Boston?
	I'm from Connecticut.
	Connecticut.
	Yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So tell us one big takeaway from recent college life.
	Okay, well, my favorite one that I see on the show all the time is cognitive dissonance, which is essentially the idea that there's a conflict between your behaviors and your thoughts, and you try to change the way that you think about something based on your behaviors to try to justify it better, essentially.
	And you've learned about this.
	Yeah, in school.
	Yes.
	Because I took a cognition class.
	And then what do you want to do for work?
	I don't know.
	After you graduate.
	Consulting, potentially.
	Yeah, my sorry What kinds of consulting?
	Like strategy or AI.
	I know a bit about AI, and I've done it in a couple of my internships.
	And my current internship that I've been in for six months was at a consulting firm.
	Just a question on the, you would, when you say you would consult on AI, what would that entail?
	Like strategy consulting on how businesses can implement AI into their day-to-day functions.
	Couldn't AI just tell you that?
	Maybe, but you should pay me to do it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Hey, ChatGPT, how do I implement you, I guess.
	And then you're also going to be graduating soon, is that correct?
	I have another year.
	What do you want to do after?
	I'm not sure yet.
	I really want to do research.
	I think I want to get my PhD one day.
	Okay.
	Well, you do, did you mention you do online content?
	I do OnlyFans, yes.
	OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Zara Moon.
	I'm 33 years old.
	Welcome.
	I graduated from college a long time ago.
	All right.
	You got your bachelor's?
	So I got a bachelor's in fine art from the University of Tennessee in Noncommittee.
	Tennessee, okay.
	Yep.
	Fine art.
	Do you recall anything from your I think back on my days in school a lot.
	Okay.
	I do.
	I have.
	Fine art.
	What is that?
	Is that modern art?
	Or is that like.
	That's like you can get a bachelor's in art and that's like a certain amount of credit hours.
	And if you go and you do like multiple disciplines, like if you take pottery and painting and photography, then yeah.
	I didn't study photography.
	Is fine art?
	That's like other disciplines of art, like pottery?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It includes like sculptures and it's actually a wide umbrella of like different topics.
	Okay.
	So they all like you got your 2D art, which is like your printmaking and your painting and stuff like that.
	And then you have 3D art, like sculpture, pottery.
	Sure.
	But I did the film and like performance program.
	So I didn't do 2D or 3D.
	I took some of those classes, but mostly studied film.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Hey, my name's April Trump.
	Wait, hold on.
	What is it?
	April Trump.
	April?
	April.
	A-V-like Avril Levine?
	It's like A-V-E-R-I-L.
	April.
	April.
	Trump.
	T-U-R-M-P.
	Wait.
	T-R-U-M-P.
	T-R-U-M-P-P.
	Turnip.
	I go by the Ann Matrix online usually.
	Okay, Trump.
	So your last name's Trump.
	Are you related to.
	Yeah, I haven't met him.
	You what?
	I haven't met him, though.
	I'm not like.
	Like a distant cousin or something?
	Basically, yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	How did, I mean, do you know?
	You know, how did that happen?
	I guess I'm the black sheep.
	You're the black sheep of the family.
	You got disowned, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, okay.
	And you're, sorry, age?
	Did you say that?
	Oh, I'm 22, turning 23 on Christmas.
	So my birthday's coming up.
	What's your birthday?
	22.
	And I'm an exotic dancer.
	I'm also a musician, and I went to school for audio engineering.
	You have a degree in that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do you sing?
	Yeah.
	Do you sing too?
	Aren't you a musician?
	Yeah, I'm a vocalist.
	Okay.
	What are you, soprano?
	I could do soprano.
	But what's your, are you at, what is it, alto?
	What's the other so?
	Like, I, like, my register that I talk and sing in is mostly alto.
	Alto.
	But I use all types of like voice compressors and changers and stuff when I'm doing my vocals.
	What is it called?
	The auto-tune?
	A little bit, yeah.
	I use a pitch shifter.
	Pitch shifter.
	Yeah.
	You guys should start a band or something.
	Are you guys, are you a solo artist?
	I am.
	Okay.
	I am.
	I noticed your tattoo.
	It says no gods, no masters.
	Can you explain that?
	Yeah.
	So it's crazy how I ended up with this tattoo.
	This was back in 2022.
	I went out on the town in Hollywood one night.
	I was at the goth club at Boardner's, and I was having a few drinks and ended up talking to the bartender a little bit.
	And we were having this real philosophical debate and talking about the French Revolution.
	And I remembered that phrase, and it's like this, you know, it's this phrase of like emancipation, like liberating yourself.
	So, yeah, I just like walked across the street and got it tatted on my neck.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Lynn Alpora.
	I'm 19 and I am in college right now.
	I'm doing political science.
	And I work as a pharmacy technician, which has nothing to do with my major, but that's what I'm doing.
	And where are you from?
	I'm from Dallas.
	Dallas, Texas.
	All right, rock and roll.
	What about what about you?
	I'm from Austin, Texas.
	I make music.
	I'm an actor.
	My name's Andrew.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	And weren't you in like a Cardi B video or something?
	Who was Nicki Minaj?
	Nikki Minaj.
	All right.
	Don't they have beef or something?
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Who does?
	Yeah, they do.
	I have a song with Drake coming out.
	You have a song with Drake.
	No way.
	Really?
	Like your children?
	No, I have a song.
	Okay, good times.
	Good times.
	All right, so guys, before I get into some of the other things, we have, I apologize for the slightly late start.
	We have one person running obscenely late.
	We have two no-shows.
	So one of them's coming up.
	One of them gave me permission to call them because I'm going to fucking roast them.
	So I don't know if you're watching, Emily.
	I'm going to call you right now.
	Give me one sec, guys, while I call.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Just leave it center neck.
	So I don't know what's going on, man.
	I don't know if it's that time of year, guys.
	Apparently there was flooding, but she let us know like 20 minutes after the meet time and she's coming from, okay, I'll just, I'll talk to her on the phone.
	Let's see if she picks up.
	I don't know if she's going to pick up, though.
	I got to hide this.
	Oh, I didn't hear about any flooding.
	Sorry.
	Hello?
	Yes, hello.
	So you did give us permission.
	Just want to confirm to record this phone conversation.
	Yes.
	Okay, just want to.
	Yeah, this is Brian.
	Just want to reaffirm that this is being recorded.
	Do we have your consent?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay, so you were scheduled to be on the show today.
	We have a 4 p.m. call time.
	That's crazy.
	A 4 p.m. call time.
	At 4.20, approximately, you messaged me saying something about floods.
	Yeah.
	You live in western Washington.
	Yes.
	Now, aren't you from, well, you live in L.A., right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Sorry, I was talking to somebody else.
	So, okay.
	When did the flood start?
	Two days ago?
	It was two or three days ago.
	And, you know, was did your phone fall into the flood water?
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	The flood did happen, and it is why my car couldn't leave the neighborhood.
	But I understand where you're coming from.
	It's like super disrespectful.
	I'm sorry.
	Like, it's super not cool.
	Like, I'm nervous.
	I was scared.
	And I kept putting it off and off and off and off.
	And I'm so sorry.
	I really am.
	Yes, there was a flood.
	No, I know.
	Oh, my God.
	Is everybody listening?
	Am I on the show right now?
	Yes, it's on.
	It's being recorded.
	It's on the show.
	You're on the show.
	Oh, my God.
	This is so crazy.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	So, okay.
	Okay.
	So, the flood started three days ago.
	Yo, can somebody pull it up?
	Somebody pull up.
	I did Google it.
	I did Google it.
	Apparently, there's flooding.
	But question, like, was the flight, your flight.
	Hold on, one sec, Colin.
	Zip it.
	Zip it, Emily.
	All right, Emily.
	So did you have a flight booked?
	No, because I was going to fly standby.
	You're going to fly standby.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Than this other retard.
	Sorry, I was calling somebody else a retard.
	So, were you planning on flying today?
	Yeah, that's how standby works, Brian.
	Is the airport closed?
	Nope.
	So, what the fuck is, I don't give a fuck about flooding.
	Could you get to the airport?
	No, I couldn't because my private neighborhood, no cars could fuck freaking leave.
	You seem like a good swimmer.
	You could have that shit out.
	You're right, Brian.
	You know what?
	I'm going to just give you the fuck it, bitch.
	You should have just showed up.
	You made a fucking appointment.
	I 100% agree with you.
	So I fucked up.
	I'm sorry.
	So let's, okay.
	I really did fuck up.
	Well, hold on.
	Regardless of whether you could have made it or not, let's give you, let's be somewhat charitable and say, you know, I'm, I think, you know, it's a bit dubious that you couldn't have made it, but let's go ahead and say you couldn't have made it.
	Do you think 20 minutes after you were supposed to be here was the appropriate time to be like, no, no.
	Hey, I'm not going to be there.
	You knew.
	No.
	You knew today.
	You knew yesterday.
	You knew two days ago you weren't going to make it.
	I'm scared because you're really scary.
	But I don't think you understand, right?
	So you're scared.
	Yeah.
	You're scared because you think I'm going to be angry because you are fucking with our production.
	But don't, hold on, hold on.
	But stop, stop.
	Don't stop, stop.
	You guys stop.
	No, we can't have, we can only have one fucking goddamn.
	I already explained it to you guys.
	One person speaking at a time.
	I don't know why you're laughing.
	Just kindly shut up.
	Like, you don't have to do a troll and be annoying about it.
	Just be quiet.
	I'm falling.
	Stop.
	So if your intention was to make me less angry and not fuck with our production.
	I failed.
	But I don't understand.
	It takes five seconds to just be like, hey, I'm not coming.
	You could have told us today at 8 a.m.
	You could have told us yesterday.
	So I don't understand this.
	Like, I was nervous because I didn't want to tell Brian I wasn't going to come.
	But the extension of that is by you not telling us you're not going to come, that's worse.
	So I don't understand.
	Like, and how old are you?
	You're 32?
	Yeah.
	How have you not, how have you not adulted?
	Like, this is basic.
	Stop.
	I don't care.
	This is basic adulting.
	If you know you're not going to be somewhere, the courteous and etiquette thing to do is just like, hey, I'm really sorry I'm not going to be able to make it.
	What would you guys have said if I, um, what?
	I mean, if you told us two days ago, that would have given us time to have found a replacement.
	But just leaving us here holding our cocks, like that fucks us up more.
	I don't see how you can't comprehend that, like, it's just a courteous thing to do, but also in terms of maximizing like our ability to find somebody else, you just no showing and telling us 20 minutes after the scheduled me time, you're not coming and not giving us a heads up is retarded.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I agree.
	I'm I want you to okay, good.
	I'm glad you agree.
	And I want you to say here now on the whatever podcast, you said you agree.
	So call yourself a retard.
	Say, this is what I want you to do.
	I want you to say, Brian, I'm sorry that I'm a retard.
	Please forgive me.
	Kate, fill in the blank for a different word than retards and I'll say it.
	Sorry, I'm an inconsiderate piece of shit.
	How about that?
	How about an inconsiderate piece of shit?
	Fine.
	Anyway, say what I need to say.
	I'll say it.
	Yeah, that.
	Brian, I'm sorry.
	I'm an inconservant piece of shit.
	You slurred your words.
	Say it again.
	Brian, I'm sorry.
	I'm an inconsiderate piece of shit.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	I don't know.
	Do I need to.
	All right.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, and then this other person who's fucking running late apparently doesn't know fucking directions.
	Holy shit.
	By the way, Pasty George, good to see you in the chat, my friend.
	All right.
	So, anyways, I don't know what the fuck is going on tonight.
	I'm telling you.
	I think we're getting trolled.
	I think we're getting trolled.
	We got two no-shows, three no-shows at this point.
	Hold on.
	This fucking.
	Oh my God.
	Hold on.
	One sec, guys.
	I got to call some other.
	Wait, no, no, I can't.
	Hold on.
	One sec, guys.
	I got to text Mary this fucking retarded shit.
	Wait, Nick, actually, here, Nick, can you just do it for me so I can get the show going?
	Instagram, general tab of messages.
	You have to look it up on the computer.
	Her name is Sean Tall.
	Send her number to Mary.
	Have Mary call this retard.
	So we can.
	Oh my God, bro.
	I just want to fight.
	At this point, she can fucking drive back to.
	Oh, my.
	Okay, we're just.
	I'm taking care of it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Holy fuck.
	Actually, tilted.
	What the fuck?
	All right, that was fun.
	Is there anything else?
	Maybe I should call that girl back, though.
	I feel like I didn't get enough off my chest.
	Thank you, Nick.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, now that I've fucking crashed out on my own podcast, let's see.
	Where are we?
	Well, I need to wait.
	Hold on.
	I'll just do the intro.
	Well, we'll do the intro.
	All right, guys.
	Here we go.
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	All right.
	Okay.
	I got Spotify sent me a box.
	I guess I don't know if I can.
	All right.
	Spotify, because I know we're top semi-top podcast on there.
	They sent me a little award or something.
	I don't know, and some other swag.
	A thingy and a son.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Thank you, Spotify.
	Shout out, Spotify.
	Thank you.
	That's so cool.
	Thank you, Spotify.
	Appreciate it.
	That's fucked up.
	All right.
	Thank you, Spotify, for that.
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	Well, I mean, I don't think there was a complete catastrophic collapse of the fucking telecoms.
	It's oh my god, bro.
	It takes 10 seconds to text somebody, be like, hey, I'm not going to come.
	So, whatever.
	Let's see.
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	Why the fuck are you late?
	Oh, did you give her the instructions?
	Did you?
	Yeah, into the bike.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I couldn't get off work early.
	And there's a lot of traffic.
	So coming from Burbank, it was further than I expected it to be, so.
	An hour and 30 minutes late.
	Yeah, Burbank.
	Yeah, it's like an hour and 30 minutes.
	Did you just forget about the show?
	No, no.
	There's just a little bit more traffic than I expected there to be, and I think it'll be on time.
	When did you leave?
	It was like three when I texted you, I was leaving.
	So, okay.
	Yeah, sorry.
	All right.
	Good job, I guess.
	All right.
	Why don't you introduce yourself?
	Chantel, 32, veterinary technician, single and pregnant.
	All right.
	Well, single and pregnant.
	Any education?
	Yeah, I'm a certified veterinary assistant.
	I went to school for that and trying to get my license to be a veterinary technician so I can get registered.
	All right.
	How long, how far along are you?
	Well, almost my third semester.
	I just need one more semester after that.
	Trimester?
	Semester.
	Oh, how far along am I?
	Pregnant.
	Oh, I thought you were asking me like school.
	Sorry.
	I'm like 18, 19 weeks.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to think of a joke about your fetus being late or something, but I can't.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	That's actually, it's two fucking people.
	It's your fucking fetus.
	And I got two fucking people late.
	Well, actually, wait, no.
	We had two no-shows.
	And then you count as a I don't know.
	You're two people, technically.
	Two people.
	So, all right.
	Jeez.
	Well, this panel's going to be.
	Okay, I'm going to be tilted the whole show.
	All right.
	All right.
	So we're going to get into the show finally.
	I think the best place to start off is with is disagreements.
	Is disagreements.
	So I know some of you have different disagreements with me.
	Why don't we start there?
	Actually, no, sorry.
	We need to get people's relationship status first.
	Okay.
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	Single.
	How long have you been single for?
	Ooh, like three years?
	Quite some time.
	Okay.
	And then longest relationship?
	Would be a year and a half.
	Year and a half.
	Okay.
	I'm going to try my best to not be cranky this episode.
	Okay.
	Year and a half.
	And you've also been somewhat celibate.
	What does that mean, somewhat celibate?
	For the amount of time that I've been single, most of it I've been celibate.
	Or I say celibate, I mean abstinent.
	Abstinent.
	Okay, so you're not having sex.
	No.
	How long have you been since the last time you had cardinal knowledge?
	Too long.
	A year.
	Over a year.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And okay, what about you?
	I'm single, and I've been single since January.
	And my longest relationship was three and a half years.
	Okay, so you've been single pretty almost a year.
	Yeah.
	Longest relationship you said was three and a half years.
	Yes.
	Was that during college?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So the three and a half year relationship, is that the one that ended a year ago?
	Yes.
	Okay, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why is that?
	We fought a lot and I couldn't do it anymore.
	Okay.
	And you're in a sorority, yeah?
	Yes, I am.
	Can you say which one?
	Kappa, Kappa, Gamma.
	Is there a cheer?
	There is plenty of cheers.
	Can you do the cheer?
	Okay.
	There's plenty.
	Okay, yeah, but can you only if you do the hand symbol?
	I'll do the half.
	Show me how to do that.
	Wait, did we have a kappa?
	Is it a is you guys, are you called kappas?
	Yeah, kappa.
	Didn't we have a kappa on last show?
	Was that a kappa?
	It was kappa theta.
	Yeah, I watched.
	I watched.
	Kappa Theta.
	No, it was Kappa Alpha Theta.
	Kappa, of course.
	Yeah.
	And you're Kappa Gamma.
	Yes, different, different.
	KKG?
	KKG, yeah.
	Okay, so how do you do that?
	I'll do the okay.
	Awesome.
	They're going to love this.
	Okay.
	Can I grow up?
	No, you can do it.
	If I visit Boston, I'll send it in our group chat.
	Okay, perfect.
	Okay.
	We get the right hand.
	Okay.
	Right hands.
	Yeah, this, K, K, and then the gamma.
	This?
	Yeah, like this.
	Sweet.
	All right.
	Am I a member now?
	Yes.
	Yes, yes.
	You know, honorary sister.
	Do uh, I know fraternities they have a secret handshake.
	Do the sororities have a secret handshake.
	Torkoff or something.
	That too.
	Do you have a secret handshake?
	Yeah, we do.
	We do.
	Okay.
	I can't do it.
	You can't do it.
	But source just trust me.
	What are the cheers?
	What are the cheers?
	It's okay.
	We sing a dream recruitment, and it's scary.
	That's all.
	Yeah.
	It's really scary.
	Give us one.
	Give us one.
	I won't do like the enthusiasm, but you'll get the picture, okay?
	K-A-P-P-A, take it twice and add a G-A-M-M-A Kappa Kappa Gamma.
	Shout out, Kapos.
	Yeah.
	Woo!
	Welcome.
	Thank you.
	Y'all should do it again.
	That's good.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Okay, there you go.
	Oh, God.
	Anyway, shout out, Capos.
	Oh, well, you know what?
	I should.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on.
	We'll pop.
	Hold on.
	Lower the volume.
	Lower the volume.
	But Keebler Elf donated $1.200.
	Happy holiday and NY to whatever pod.
	Congrats on Spotify so rant.
	Oh, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Keebler Elf.
	We'll pop a champagne ball in just a moment.
	I just want to get through the introduction stuff.
	But your fucking legend.
	Guys, W's in the chat for the Keebler Elf.
	Christmas come early.
	Keebler.
	What is the Keebler Elf?
	What is Keebler?
	The cookies.
	The cookie.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Who lives in a chip?
	Is that like Chips Ahoy or is that something else?
	No, it's not.
	I don't think Chips Adelaide.
	They make a Naga Girl Scout.
	Yo, Keebler Elf.
	Thank you, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	You're a legend.
	Okay, so there's the cheer.
	Do you guys do what is I saw this thing called the Gates of Hell?
	And it's like a door.
	Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
	We don't do that.
	You guys don't do that?
	We don't have houses in Boston.
	There's no sorority houses.
	There's frat houses, but not sorority houses because in Boston, it's a brothel.
	Oh, wow.
	What do you mean, a brothel?
	Like, it's classified as a brothel.
	Yeah, we're like not allowed to have them.
	Yeah, like a state law.
	It's crazy.
	Same with Pennsylvania.
	That's weird.
	Yeah, really weird.
	So we don't have them.
	That's.
	It's not like that in Tennessee.
	Yeah, sorority houses.
	But I mean, women who are in sororities are not sex workers.
	No.
	So I don't know that, like, so women can't collectively live in a house together?
	Yeah, apparently.
	Even non-sorority, like roommates?
	Yeah, okay.
	So it's weird because if you live in a house with like all girls in the house in different units, that doesn't count.
	But the organization, that's so weird.
	I know.
	That's so weird.
	You guys got a suit.
	Petition.
	You guys got to sue or something.
	That shit's fucked up.
	I agree.
	Signal petition.
	Okay.
	It's okay.
	You're in a sorority.
	You know, one thing I noticed about you, I watched some of your TikToks.
	And I don't know if it's.
	And I look, I think people's voice changes over time.
	But your voice in four years' time or something has changed.
	Yes.
	Do you think it's influenced by that?
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	No, it's not one of the videos.
	I don't know.
	I just noticed that.
	Have you noticed that?
	Yes.
	I used to get bullied for my voice back in like middle school because it did not sound like this.
	And now it's very deep.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what changed, but it just did.
	Okay.
	Puberty.
	Relationship status.
	I'm single.
	Single.
	How long have you been single for?
	For a little over a year.
	It was.
	Wait, when you messaged us, weren't you in a relationship then?
	It was kind of on again, off-again relationship.
	No, I wasn't in a relationship, but I think that, you know, it's just like the last year and a half has been like, we'll get together and then we'll break up and we'll get together.
	But it's like actually done now.
	It's like cooked.
	Okay.
	And how long were you guys together?
	Eight years.
	Eight years.
	All right.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Have you had a rebound?
	Well, you know, I'd rather not give the details on that.
	You're on the dating podcast.
	I've been going out.
	I've been going out.
	I've been meeting people.
	I went out last night and watched a movie with a nice young man.
	You went out or you stayed in?
	I went over to a friend's house.
	Friend's house?
	Yeah.
	With so it was, it's three friends over here that we're talking about.
	It's like an orgy.
	It's like, we didn't do that.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm still like in that phase where I need some time.
	Oh.
	No.
	I need some time before I get back on that train.
	Okay, sorry.
	I've got to get my head out of the gutter.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it was a long relationship.
	It was super long.
	It was a long relationship.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it was super long.
	Has he had rebounds?
	Oh, he was having rebounds before the relationship wasn't.
	Yeah.
	Is it an open relationship?
	There were times when we did that, and it was fine.
	I feel like when you date someone for that long, you experience many seasons of someone.
	So there were times when we were very serious, and there were times when we weren't.
	So.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	What about you?
	I'm still single, sober, and celibate.
	Hell yeah.
	How long have you been single for?
	Ever since May, I believe.
	Okay.
	What?
	What was that for?
	Like six months, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	All right.
	Three years.
	Rock and roll.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	How long have you been single?
	A few months now.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	About a year.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Oh, I'm single.
	Single, sorry.
	And have been single just recent, so maybe like a few weeks.
	And longest relationship was eight years.
	Like, so you've been single a month?
	Was that?
	No, like three weeks, maybe.
	Yeah, about three weeks.
	Three weeks, okay.
	And you said longest relationship, how long?
	Eight years.
	Eight years.
	Okay, is that the guy who broke up with you three weeks ago or whatever?
	No, I don't know.
	That was from like, I don't know, like long time ago.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How many?
	Do you have other kids?
	No.
	This is first one.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So three weeks ago, you broke up with your boyfriend of how long?
	Like, maybe like four or five months.
	Was he the father of your child?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, four to five months.
	Okay.
	Do you think it's over over or are you guys going to reconcile?
	I'm not sure, honestly.
	Probably, I'm not sure.
	It could go either way.
	Okay.
	Are you guys going to try to co-parent?
	Yeah, that's the plan.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you, I guess?
	Single.
	Single?
	For a month.
	Longest relationship?
	For a month?
	Maybe two.
	Two?
	Okay.
	Two, yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single and I have not dated before.
	What?
	No.
	Come on.
	You're fucking.
	I'm looking for true love.
	Like the notebook.
	Period.
	Watch!
	So you've never had a relationship?
	Not that I can remember.
	Are you?
	What do you mean, not that you can remember?
	Not crossing my mind.
	Some girls crying right now listening.
	Were you like high on heroin and you just forgot?
	Or what?
	Making a lot of music.
	Like, are you talking like figuratively?
	Like, you were making music with women?
	Not literally, but figuratively.
	I don't like to kiss and tell.
	You're on a dating podcast, my dude.
	You gotta, you gotta, come on.
	Give us something.
	You're single currently, right?
	So it's not like, hey, if you date women in the past, you know, it's not gonna come back and you're saying it on the show is not gonna bite you in any sort of way.
	Dog.
	Yeah, no.
	So are you a virgin?
	Yeah, something like that.
	Something like that.
	Are you Mormon?
	No, I'm not Mormon.
	Uh, okay.
	Um, so you have no dating experience?
	I've never kissed a girl before.
	Okay.
	What?
	Um are you are you trolling or what?
	No you've you've never kissed a girl before?
	No, I don't know what it means.
	You don't know what it means.
	Never kissed a girl.
	Honestly, I believe him.
	Yeah.
	What about a guy?
	No, never kissed a guy either.
	This is making sure.
	You're missing out, man.
	Okay.
	You gotta be lying.
	Why do you say that?
	You're definitely just trolling.
	How old are you?
	I'm 27.
	This is why I don't bring guys on the show.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So what's your reason for not kissing anyone at 27 years old?
	Just waiting for the right one.
	And what's the right one supposed to be like?
	ANY QUALIFICATIONS?
	I'M OPEN.
	Oh.
	To what?
	To finding the right one.
	Oh my god.
	Have you ever been on a date?
	Like, taking someone out?
	No, he hasn't even tried.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Don't know if I've been on a date.
	You don't know if you've been on a date.
	Perhaps.
	I think we need to get his brain checked.
	I don't know.
	I feel like he would remember some things.
	I've been on a lot of adventures for sure.
	Adventures.
	Fast, yeah.
	Have you ever been called a liar?
	Plenty of times.
	Right.
	And he remembers this.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	You think I'm a liar?
	I think you're trolling.
	You're not a truther.
	Nope.
	I believe it.
	You, like, hang out with Drake and you haven't, like, talked to a girl, like, ever?
	I'm talking to you right now.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	That doesn't count that again.
	Where's the cricket sounds?
	wear that what's your type?
	What's your disability?
	Why do you have a dog?
	That's a good question.
	Sorry, I'm so sorry.
	No!
	What's wrong with you, bitch?
	Yeah, no, um.
	I have fibromyalgia and PTSD and POTS and a few other things.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yeah, no, she's great.
	She's off camera.
	Does she do any tricks?
	She does do tricks.
	I can have her sing for us, but I don't want to, she'll want to come over.
	Oh, yeah, maybe not.
	Yeah, maybe not.
	Still think you're trolling.
	You guys need a collab artist, she'll sing.
	Oh, yeah, can we get a song?
	Yeah, sing it.
	My most popular song's called What Was Left in the Cold by April.
	Hell yeah.
	Maybe it should stay there.
	Why?
	Okay, sing it.
	I want to hear.
	Oh, no, no, no, no chorus.
	Sing on Adas right now.
	No, no, no, no.
	You guys can play it if you want.
	Can we play it?
	But it's sudden.
	It's a sudden.
	You said you're a rapper, right?
	Zara?
	You said you're a rapper, right?
	Yeah.
	Hell yeah, dude.
	Yeah, dude.
	I do like a few different types of vocal arrangements.
	And I was talking earlier about my vocal treatments and stuff like that.
	So.
	That's like auto-tune, right?
	Or vocal treatment being.
	Treatment is like anything that you do to the vocals to alter it.
	Okay.
	So like I experiment a lot with that.
	I've got like some songs where I'm singing and I'm like belting and then I've got some songs where I'm rapping and doing like more hip-hop kind of stuff.
	Can you freestyle about your experience tonight?
	Yeah, do it.
	I'm not going to freestyle.
	Let's go.
	Come on.
	Not for free.
	Especially not with a beat or without a beat.
	Darn.
	I'll beat bombs.
	Yeah, dude.
	Okay.
	A cappella this show.
	Okay, I wrote.
	Okay, actually, Brian.
	No beatbox?
	Okay.
	Come on.
	Let's go.
	Listen, we could all collectively make a song together.
	Harmonize.
	You too, come on.
	And the dog, I guess.
	Yeah, now let's just do it.
	Avril's the producer.
	Yeah, Avril.
	What kind of music do you think?
	April.
	April, my bad.
	What kind of music do you make?
	Grunge and Screamo.
	That's cool.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's like alternative/slash grunge/slash screamo.
	I kind of call it satin rock because it's like a rock, but very different styles in one, I think.
	And I don't know what to call it other than that.
	Can you sing a line?
	No, You can look at my stuff later.
	I get nervous.
	Don't put me on the spotlight.
	No, it's harder.
	It's good.
	On the spot.
	Yes.
	Got a promo whenever you can, man.
	I know.
	It is free promo.
	Yeah, yeah, come on.
	I didn't get it.
	I didn't get it last time.
	So I'm glad I get the moment this time.
	And then you, you need a beat?
	We can do that.
	I'll do a beat for you.
	It's going to sound terrible.
	We don't want that.
	I would rather you just go stream my new single that just came out.
	Fair.
	Fair.
	Okay, so POTS, PTSD, is that why you did the whole social work style psych education?
	Honestly, I think I've just found psychology incredibly interesting.
	I was originally going to major in business, but I did a year and a half, and I was like, this is just going to kill my soul.
	And I am way more interested and passionate about learning how the brain works.
	I think I'm trying to figure out what route of psychology I want to go into for a PhD.
	And I think social psychology is pretty interesting.
	So I think it's also really good to know.
	I think more people should understand basic psych stuff, but you know.
	Okay.
	Got you.
	And then you, your vet, tech.
	Yeah.
	That's tough.
	Where?
	LA?
	Burbank.
	Burbank.
	Okay.
	And that's why you were late because it was from Burbank.
	Yeah, got you.
	Three weeks single?
	What happened?
	Oh, tell us what happened.
	He went back to his ex-girlfriend.
	Oh, why?
	What'd you do?
	No, I didn't do anything.
	He wanted to.
	Actually, he didn't want to break up with me.
	He wanted to do like a.
	He wanted to have two girlfriends or something.
	Oh, Polly.
	Oh, open relationship.
	Oh, God.
	And you weren't going for the.
	Good for you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, good for you.
	Okay.
	Polly shit.
	Some bullshit, in my opinion.
	I agree.
	Totally agree.
	Yeah, I didn't end up working out with that.
	He didn't end up working out with that chick either.
	Oh, no.
	Never does.
	So, what about the last name?
	I'm not sure, honestly.
	What are we going to do about that?
	I like his last name, honestly, but I'm not really sure what I'm going to do about that.
	So you're going to keep the dad's name?
	Maybe.
	Yeah.
	You should look up the laws about naming your baby.
	Like, there's certain things according to which last name the baby has that determine like child support and different like legal documents.
	So you do need to think about that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, look into that for sure.
	Did you ever try like bowing to him?
	Bowing?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm going to try.
	No, I mean, I think I did everything good in the relationship.
	Like, he, you know, he even said that I didn't deserve it, but he, you know, wow.
	He said you didn't deserve it.
	Right.
	Yeah, because the way he went about it was like he decided, like, just cheat on me and do it like that.
	I think you're better off without him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like you lost a lot of dead weight.
	All right.
	You're going to, Keebler Elf, because there's some shit going on, I promise you we're going to do the champagne pop, but it's going to have to wait momentarily.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to get into the show.
	Weren't we going to react to something?
	Or?
	You brought up someone's TikTok for a second, but I don't know if you can pull it up.
	All right.
	I just want to apologize to the audience.
	This show's been absolutely fucked.
	We have two no-shows.
	We had somebody obnoxiously, obscenely, egregiously, rudely late.
	I'm already.
	This is the most tilted I've been in a really long time.
	So, all right.
	We're just gonna do it.
	Okay.
	Is anybody here like no?
	I don't think so.
	All right.
	Willow, we'll start with your notes.
	You're a dirty hippie girl.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	I like being a nudist and going around the forest naked.
	Okay.
	And you don't shower, apparently, or infrequently shower?
	Oh, am I the feral girl?
	Oh, I knew it was me.
	I was joking.
	Okay, yeah.
	No, I do shower.
	I showered today.
	I know, crazy.
	No, but I saw somewhere you don't frequently shower or something like that.
	Am I mistaken?
	I don't know.
	On a TikTok or something.
	You probably have the TikTok, not me.
	I'm on my phone.
	You're you.
	You would know better than.
	Oh my god, bro.
	Holy fuck.
	Just don't be bad faith.
	I shower.
	I have one.
	I understand that you shower, but wasn't there something like you frequently skip showering?
	I don't know what you're talking about, dude.
	Have you not said that?
	No, I probably have.
	I have fibromyalgia, and when the flare-ups get really bad, like I just don't leave the bed.
	Did you guys talk about the dog?
	Briefly.
	Yeah, just curious, what was the thing with the dog?
	I have PTSD, fibromyalgia, and POTS.
	You also have armpit hair?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, cool.
	Something about you having piercings when you're really young.
	Yeah.
	I moved schools, and so when I was a freshman, I quickly became friends with a girl who wanted to be a piercer, and I wanted to be a tattoo artist.
	And we decided that we were going to just set up shop.
	I see.
	Okay. I guess let's get into your disagreement.
	You think the rise of clickbait red pill content is detrimental to the young parentheses, mostly boy viewers who consume it.
	Okay, so are you categorizing the whatever podcast?
	Or are you talking about us?
	I'm not that familiar with the podcast, but I would assume so, yeah.
	You would assume so.
	Okay, but when you say you're not familiar with the podcast, what do you mean?
	I've seen clips of it.
	Of the clips you've seen, would it fall into your categorization of clickbait red pill content?
	A lot of it, yeah.
	A lot of it, okay.
	So we should define our terms.
	What is clickbait?
	I think anything that is, I think rage bait specifically, where it's like specifically trying to gauge an anger response.
	Well, ragebait is different than clickbait.
	So are we talking about it?
	I think it goes hand in hand.
	No, not necessarily.
	But why don't we start with the original claim of clickbait?
	Okay, what is clickbait?
	It's something that gets you to try to click on it.
	Okay, so wouldn't that, in essence, be pretty much anything?
	Okay, so when I think of clickbait, I think of something that would be misleading.
	I think, okay, here is a thumbnail of, you know, you're seeing something, and then the actual content you get when you end up on the page, the article has nothing to do with it, or the video has nothing to do with it.
	So I think if we're talking about clickbait, at least my sense of clickbait, it would be misleading.
	Okay.
	Okay, so would you categorize our content as misleading?
	I don't think so.
	I think you guys are pretty upfront about what you're about.
	Okay, so you would more so categorize it as ragebait?
	To some, for some stuff, yeah.
	Okay, so how would you define rage bait then?
	I think looking for very, like, controversial topics, I mean, even the questions that we were being asked are stuff that people have very strong opinions about, and people are, you know, encouraged to be very, very, I don't know.
	I think that it elicits this either or when I think in the grand scheme of things, everything's a little bit of a gray in between.
	Everything's a gray.
	There's no need to categorize things as left or right, or one thing is correct and one thing is bad.
	I think that there should be room for nuance.
	And I think that a lot of this kind of conversation isn't allowed in a lot of podcasting.
	I mean, more so in podcasting than some other stuff.
	When you say it's not allowed, what do you mean?
	I think that it's not interesting for viewers because they want to, you know, click on a video.
	They don't want to be educated.
	They want to be entertained.
	This isn't an educational podcast, right?
	I think a lot of people can learn quite a bit from this show.
	Okay.
	But is it strictly, is it an educational podcast in the same way that somebody teaching you like organic chemistry in video format is educational?
	Clearly the aim is a bit different.
	Like I don't think the primary aim is to educate.
	The primary aim is to have conversations.
	And if those conversations happen to be entertaining, then I suppose that's a byproduct.
	But as it relates to rage bait, though, what specifically about the whatever podcast would you consider rage bait?
	Again, I haven't watched a ton, but from the clips, it's like just, oh, women think this and women think that, and, you know, all the all caps like, oh, feral girl doesn't shower.
	I saw that was supposed to be for me.
	You know, things that are just like very, wow.
	And then, I don't know.
	It's just.
	I don't know if that would make somebody rage, but besides that, is there anything you could point to in terms of the rage baiting that you allege is happening?
	Just stereotypes about the same conversation, like the same women are, men are conversations.
	Just okay, so what are some things we've said about women or men that you think is wrong or inaccurate?
	I haven't watched.
	I don't have a quote.
	Well, then how would you be able to come to the conclusion that that's what we're doing?
	Because I've seen you guys on socials.
	I see what you're doing right now.
	What am I doing right now?
	You're trying to gauge some sort of like specific, you're trying to, you know, do your thing.
	I respect that, but.
	What am I explaining what I'm trying to do?
	You're trying to gauge some sort of reaction from me.
	How am I trying to gauge a reaction from you?
	keep asking me the same kind of things like just it's like i can't If somebody forwards a criticism and the subject of the criticism is like, what can you explain your criticism?
	That's not trying to get a rise out of somebody.
	That's you.
	You have to demonstrate your criticism.
	Exactly that.
	See, instead of understanding my opinion and understanding and trying to gauge a sort of conversation, you're just saying, that's not right.
	That's not how you do it.
	This is my way.
	And, you know, I think it's cute.
	No, that's actually exactly what I'm trying to do.
	I'm trying to understand your position.
	Right now, you're kind of obfuscating and completely unwilling to actually articulate what your position is and the evidence for it.
	So for example, if I were to say, I think that you sexually abuse animals or some crazy shit like that.
	That's rough.
	Right.
	You'd be like, oh, well, no, but do you have any evidence for the claim?
	And the burden would be on me to, yeah.
	The burden would be on me to provide evidence for the claim.
	Okay.
	So you've made a claim that this podcast is a rage bait.
	I'm seeking to understand your perspective because I disagree.
	So what can you point to that would demonstrate the rage bait nature of the podcast?
	I, you know what?
	Honestly, my feelings aren't that strong, but I don't think that.
	Regardless of how strong or weak your feelings are, you did put forward a position and I'm trying to understand your position.
	So you said, you paint women like, you say women are like this, men are like this.
	Well, give me one or two examples of.
	Well, I haven't really watched, so I don't know.
	I've only seen clips.
	want me to remember every single thing I've seen on social no I absolutely not but I think I think if you say to somebody well you maybe have either like would you say that my views might be misogynistic Okay, where's your evidence for that?
	I did a search, and, you know, it's just generally seen on like Reddit.
	My brother actually was like, don't go on that fucking dumbass podcast.
	You know, he's got his strong, he's got stronger opinions than I do.
	I don't care about your, your brother's not here.
	I don't care about his opinions.
	Okay.
	How did you come to your conclusions?
	I feel like I keep saying the same thing over and over.
	You haven't.
	No, okay.
	If you say the podcast is misogynistic, okay.
	Why?
	And now the burden is on you to demonstrate it.
	Because I feel like it perpetuates stereotypes that are not helpful.
	And which stereotypes are we perpetuating that are not helpful?
	Women are this, women are that.
	Give me, be specific.
	Can I look at some of the questions that we answered?
	How would any of these?
	Because those are the kinds of questions that I'm talking about.
	Well, hold on.
	These aren't even necessarily positions that the podcast holds.
	No, but these are asking you what you agree with or what you disagree with.
	So, I mean, for the podcast.
	Well, yeah, sure.
	I'll give you the first four.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide and protect.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	Husbands should be willing to die protecting me.
	Those are the first core questions.
	I got a good one.
	Body count.
	I feel like that is a thing that is constantly talked about.
	And it's the same thing where it's like, if women sleep around, blah, blah, blah.
	And if men sleep around, you know, it's seen differently.
	Is that a good enough example?
	Well, there was a question on it that asked if men with high body count should date women with low body counts or like prefer women with low body counts.
	So I think that kind of put the other side of it on the show.
	Okay.
	So body count.
	Okay, and this would be evidence of misogyny.
	How?
	Do I have to explain misogyny to you, man?
	I mean, do you guys disagree?
	Well, how about just so we have clarity with our terms, how would you define misogyny?
	I think that it is a system that upholds men over women.
	A system.
	Beneficial for men primarily, but also still holds some negative consequences for them, like when it comes to childcare and stuff like that.
	Okay.
	So that's your full definition of misogyny.
	System that upholds men over women.
	Basic stuff.
	I would, I mean, you're sort of getting to it.
	I would define it a bit, I guess more simply.
	What would be your definition?
	Oh, it'd be like prejudice or hatred towards women.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So if you have prejudice or hatred towards women, that would be misogyny.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Do you agree with that definition?
	I think that's part of it, but I think that you don't necessarily need to hate women in order to have, you know, certain stereotypes.
	Prejudice, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Things like that.
	Yes, I agree.
	You can be misogynistic or prejudicial towards women without necessarily hating them.
	Okay.
	So, and I guess this could sort of be your previous definition.
	System upholds men over women.
	This would relate kind of to the patriarchy, which somewhat ties in with misogyny, but is much more doctrine of mainstream doctrine of feminism.
	So, okay, with your definition of misogyny, I would then ask, what specifically do you think I believe that is misogynistic?
	I don't know your specific beliefs, but I do.
	That you've seen on the podcast.
	I can generalize that you probably think that women should be more traditional, maybe not sleep around, maybe not have a sexual past.
	Is that true, or am I completely off base?
	Just because you mentioned body count, I think it's fair to bring up.
	I do think promiscuity in both men and women is bad.
	Although, even if it was my position that promiscuity, well, I mean, to be fair, I think promiscuity isn't quite as bad in men as it is in women.
	I'm going to explain that in just a moment.
	I think, again, it's bad in both.
	I think that there are a bit of differences.
	So, one of the reasons I think it's different is just simply it boils down to a difference in physiology and biology.
	So, because women carry the risk of potential pregnancy, you know, if a woman ends up getting pregnant through her promiscuity, that tends to have like a typically at least a bigger physical impact on a woman.
	Whereas, like, yes, a man, he accidentally gets a woman pregnant and she keeps the child.
	That could have an impact on his life, and he might have to pay child support.
	So, I acknowledge that, although I would still argue the comparative impact is going to be a bit worse as it relates to women.
	And this is just undeniable biologically.
	Because, for example, women can die in childbirth.
	Do you agree?
	I mean, that's been documented, yeah.
	Right.
	So then just like the pure biological reality of promiscuity in women, if like you can eventually die from participating in a sex act through like, you know.
	You can die from motor, being on a motorcycle.
	You can die from doing, you die from driving your car.
	Yeah, sure.
	And that risk is probably equally held between men and women, though.
	It's a bit of a red herring, but I would say that, yes.
	What about the responsibility of a man getting a woman pregnant and then she dies during childbirth?
	I feel like, you know, it takes two to tango.
	Right, but that doesn't really refute my position that as it relates to promiscuity, yes, women do have certain risks when it comes to getting pregnant that men clearly don't.
	And so, and there's a whole bunch of other reasons too.
	There's like some social components of why promiscuity may be.
	What social components?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	I mean, just men's own stated interests.
	So, for example, women don't typically punish male promiscuity quite as harshly as men punish female promiscuity, just in their own dating interests.
	And that makes I don't understand.
	So men.
	That's the impact on women, yeah.
	So it might be.
	Yeah, so you could agree it's not necessarily fair.
	Does that make I don't understand how that makes promiscuity worse?
	Like, I guess it depends on how you're looking at it.
	Like from a moral standpoint, is it worse for women or more society?
	Because I can agree, like being a promiscuous woman is generally, you know, there are dangers to being, you know, potentially pregnant and all these other things.
	But I don't think that that has anything to do with the morality of it.
	I wasn't necessarily even making a moral argument.
	Okay, then I'm a little confused what the argument is.
	You're confused what the argument is.
	You were asking me, okay, well, we're getting down a bit of a rabbit hole, but essentially I was asking for evidence for how I or the show is misogynistic.
	And you said, oh, Brian, you have these views on body count.
	And actually, look, again, generally speaking, I don't think men or women should be promiscuous, but I also acknowledge the reality that when it comes to the differences there.
	I mean, do you dispute my first claim about the pregnancy risk?
	I think that there's risk to anything, sure.
	Well, of course, there's risk to anything, but I'm asking about that specific risk.
	Women can die in childbirth.
	This is correct.
	Right.
	So if a woman is engaging in promiscuous sex, do you think that she's do you think she's more likely to get pregnant than a woman who's completely abstaining?
	I think that there are very clear precautions like birth control.
	I think that safe sex is safe sex should be the priority, but you know.
	Okay, but if you were a betting woman and there was a woman who's engaging in promiscuous sex and a woman who wasn't, which one is more likely to get pregnant?
	Probably the woman who's having sex.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So that's a component of promiscuity.
	Am I being asked some?
	there's an asymmetry there so I mean you were simply just asking okay well why my my claim was is that promiscuity in men and women is different Right.
	Yeah.
	So that's one.
	That's one scenario in which that would be the case.
	Okay.
	Does that establish me as a misogynist because I believe in basic biology?
	No.
	I agree with his answer.
	Right.
	Okay.
	But I'm guessing I'm failing to see.
	I think if I had actually researched and found evidence, I'm sure I could come up with a claim.
	I can write you a paper later, but I did not prepare for this.
	You provided it in your pre-show notes.
	I said that it's, you know, vaguely misogynistic.
	Yeah, how?
	I feel like we just had this conversation.
	Well, you mentioned something about body count, but I don't think that that would establish that.
	I think the pushing gender stereotypes and gender norms and things like that, I think, you know, maybe not you specifically, but I think that there are certain guests and certain topics.
	I think it's supposed to make women look bad.
	And I think that it's, you know, you have, I'm guessing, I would love to actually know the statistics on your audience.
	I'm guessing younger boys.
	Yeah, sure.
	We can do that.
	I will get, we'll do the statistics and then we'll jump into some of your claims there because we're not done there.
	What do you have?
	Oh, I was just going to say that I thought you were misogynistic before coming onto your show last time, but then I asked if you believed in equal rights and you said yes, I believe.
	From what I remember, I think I asked that, and I think you said yes.
	But I know you like you do say I just like, I don't know.
	I guess after going on your podcast one time, I don't think you're misogynistic anymore because I like had that eight-hour conversation with you.
	Well, so in order to be either misogynistic, in order to be misogynistic, if you don't believe in equal rights, does that inherently make you a misogynist?
	I kind of think, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, do you think women should be drafted?
	Yes.
	Do you think women should be drafted?
	I think that, yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't believe anyone should be drafted, but I think, you know.
	Well, I mean, the draft isn't going to go away.
	Nation states aren't going to relinquish their right to call upon.
	I'm not talking about politics.
	I'm just saying that's a personal belief.
	Isn't drafts and national security and that kind of stuff politics?
	Nations are not going to relinquish their ability to call upon its citizenry in the event of some sort of military conflict.
	So we can say, you know what, there shouldn't be a draft, but the reality is there is a draft.
	Given that there's a draft, should also women be subject to it in the same way men are.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Although I do want to quickly, before we, oh, Nick, get the PDF ready.
	Okay.
	Really quick, though, before we dive into the PDF with my stats, you did circle here on the questionnaire.
	You circled that men should provide and protect, which is a traditional gender role that is placed on men.
	And then you said men should be chivalrous.
	Okay, so if it is the case that me upholding believing in more traditional gender roles would be evidence of my misogyny, you're calling me a misogynist.
	Yeah, no, I think are you a misogynist or I guess a misandrist?
	I think that I think everybody has biases built in.
	I think that there are certain things that I try to keep an open mind.
	I think that everyone should just be kind.
	It's a very hippie stance.
	I think chivalry, just being kind.
	And I think in a relationship, you should protect and provide for each other.
	I think that the question only asks for men, but if you asked me the same thing about women, I think that I would agree.
	So men and women should provide and protect for each other in completely equal ways, not asymmetrical ways.
	I think in similar ways.
	Similar ways.
	Okay.
	So chivalry, though, is typically the term in and of itself almost baked into it sort of invokes men.
	So are you saying women should also be chivalrous?
	Because I don't really hear that at all.
	But is that your position?
	I don't really know.
	What do you mean you don't know?
	I mean, I haven't decided how I feel about that.
	Well, I mean, we can test it out really quickly.
	Should men be chivalrous?
	I think so.
	Should women be chivalrous?
	I think that if you take like just my interpretation is just being kind.
	Well, no, I don't think it's just being kind because we have a word for that and that's kind.
	Chivalry actually points to something completely different.
	And chivalry almost always falls, the burden of it would fall on the shoulders of men.
	So when we think of chivalry, we think of observing the sidewalk rule where the man is closer to the road where the cars are.
	We think about opening the car door.
	We think about paying for first dates.
	Perhaps there's a few other things that I could think of that aren't coming to mind.
	These are typically one-directional treatments.
	So this is a man doing something for the benefit of the woman or a man doing something for the woman.
	Can you give me an example of a chivalrous thing that a woman does?
	Hmm.
	That's a good question.
	I'd have to think about that.
	Okay, well, can you think of anything of the chivalrous things that men do?
	I mean, opening doors and holding the door open.
	Do you think men should do that?
	Sure.
	Okay, but you would agree, I think, that this is mostly something that men do.
	Probably, yeah.
	Okay, do you do it?
	I open doors for people all the time.
	Well, what about in a romantic context?
	Sure, if I'm there first.
	If you're there first, okay.
	But you would agree, perhaps you are perfectly 50-50 and you're perfectly egalitarian, you're perfectly equitable, perfect equality.
	Even if that's the case for you, although I would doubt to some degree that that is in fact the case, you would agree that as it relates to chivalry, for the broader society, for most women, it's actually really not the case that women are being chivalrous.
	It's the men being chivalrous.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	And do you think we should dismantle that system?
	You have she seems enthusiastic, but what do you think?
	Dismantling.
	Well, I mean, perhaps it should be fully equalized completely.
	Sure, why not?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I suppose you're consistent.
	Anyways, we do have the statistics.
	Don't pull it up yet, Nick.
	You said that you think the rise of clickbait, well, I'll change it to rage bait.
	Red pill content is detrimental to the young, mostly boy viewers who consume it.
	I guess, really quick, I doubt you have really any insight into my audience, but what do you think the actual age demographic breakdown is for the audience?
	I would assume mostly college-aged men.
	Yeah, well, why don't we do it like this?
	Because when you say boys, I think of under the age of 18.
	Okay.
	And the typical demographics, there's different breakdowns, but it'll be 13 to 17, 18 to 24, 25 to 34th, so on and so on.
	Let's just do 13 to 17.
	What percent of my audience do you think is between 13 and 17?
	So boys?
	I actually don't know.
	I would be curious to see.
	Well, I'm not asking for precision, but if you were to just guess, five approximation, 5%, 10%, 20%.
	Because you said that, you know, a lot of my audience is young.
	I would say probably 10 to 20%.
	10 to 20%, 13 to 17.
	And then what about 18 to 24?
	So that's college, college age.
	18 to 24.
	What percentage is that?
	34.
	34%.
	So the total between 13 and 24, you would put at 50, 54%.
	Maybe.
	I've totally just thrown out numbers, though.
	Just thrown out numbers.
	But you feel confident or comfortable in that range.
	I'm not asking for specific, but in that range.
	I could see it.
	Okay, Nick, go ahead and pull up the demographics.
	Zoom in, make it bigger, please.
	Oh, wow, that is interesting.
	Bigger.
	Move it over.
	Oh, Germany.
	I'm from.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	Can you get it back, please?
	I didn't think that it would.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Also, I feel like I'm eating up the airtime.
	I think they got other shit to say.
	We'll get to everybody.
	All right.
	Sorry.
	Okay, so our demographics.
	So really quick, just so you know, actually zoom it out really quick, Nick.
	Zoom out.
	Zoom it out.
	So YouTube, scroll up.
	This is from our primary, our main YouTube channel.
	YouTube produces these media kits.
	It's a PDF.
	There's no way for me to forge the whatever.
	Scroll all the way to the bottom, Nick.
	Just all the way to the bottom.
	At the very bottom, it's kind of hard to read.
	It says this media kit was created on December 1st, 2025.
	So this is recent.
	This isn't like old data.
	I produced this in the YouTube dashboard December 1st, two weeks ago.
	Scroll back up and get the demographics and scroll in again.
	So you said that the rise of red pill content is detrimental to the young, mostly boy viewers who consume it.
	0.2% of our audience is between the ages of 13 to 17.
	They're age-restricted now.
	That makes a lot of sense.
	Isn't your podcast like heavily age-restricted?
	And you're doing a lot of very few episodes are age-restricted.
	Okay.
	Very few.
	Oh, okay.
	More, a greater proportion of our episodes are demonetized, but that wouldn't prevent a 13 to 17 year old from watching it.
	In any case, you're way off.
	You're fucking way off.
	No, you're right.
	0.2%, 13 to 17.
	Less than 5%, 4.9%, 18 to 24.
	So my biggest demographic, a third of my audience is 35 to 44, 33.7%.
	And then 80% of my audience is between the age of 25 to 54.
	95% between the age of 25 to 65 plus.
	So this fake news, this misinformation that the whatever podcast is warping the minds of young, impressionable boys, it's bullshit.
	I wasn't.
	My opinion isn't fake news.
	It's just an opinion I have, and it's not a strong one.
	Well, it's completely misinformation.
	Yes, it's misinformed.
	And now I just change, you know, I think that the record show you've corrected.
	I've been owned.
	You got it wasn't an own.
	It was just there.
	There is a bit of assumptions going on as to, oh my God, these young boys.
	I wasn't talking about your podcast as like the only example.
	I think in general, the media, I mean, do you not agree like with the rise of like very like Andrew Tate and what is it, Nick Fuentes?
	I don't know what their audience demographics are, but I think that with the rise of that, especially on platforms that younger kids are on, like Snapchat and TikTok, I think that that is potentially harmful.
	Do you disagree?
	Well, in terms of the proportion of young people who watch that sort of content, I wouldn't know.
	I would be willing to grant that for Nick and for Andrew Tate, their audiences probably did skew a bit younger, but I don't know the actual data on that.
	But as far as, I mean, as far as Nick Fuentes go, he's Gen Z. He's 26, 27, I think.
	So it would kind of make sense that he would appeal to people who are a bit younger.
	But what was your question?
	It's harmful.
	I don't think Nick Fuentes is red pill, though.
	You might say Andrew Tate is red pill.
	You don't think Nick Fuentes is?
	I think he's pretty.
	Well, I suppose we need to define another term then.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What is red pill?
	What do you think?
	Well, hold on.
	Hold on.
	If you're forwarding a claim, it's not my duty to make your argument for you.
	No, I'm just asking because I'm curious.
	Well, I'm happy to provide my own definition, but you get to go first.
	Okay.
	I would say that red pill content is stuff where they're like waking up against, you know, you know, because it's compared to the Matrix.
	And I love that you guys have that set there.
	I don't know.
	I think it's mostly this idea of like waking up against things becoming more feminist and putting women back in the kitchen and all of that and anything anti-woke, left, anything against trans people, gay people.
	I think just that general, like very hardcore right-wing mentality.
	Okay.
	Which I think that Nick Fuentes and the other guy would.
	Well, I mean, sometimes when people use the term red pill, they're talking about their, well, I mean, there's, I don't think there's like one centralized definition.
	Yeah, it's kind of thrown at everything.
	And like, so there's like a dating red pill.
	And then there's like a general red pill.
	and then there's a political red pill, and then there's like red pills.
	You can take the red pill on veganism.
	You can take the red pill on, I'm trying to think, I don't know.
	You can take the red pill on anything, I guess, technically, because like you said, the red pill comes from the film The Matrix.
	I think that the red pill, really at its core, it's simply a metaphor for choosing to see the world as it is, as it actually is, rather than what you were told it is.
	You're sort of pulling away this fantasy of, you know, what Disney and, you know, this sort of Disney-fied fantasyland bullshit, what the corporate media, corporate press, academia wants to tell you how things are, and then seeing the world as it actually is, and sort of perhaps questioning popular societal narratives.
	That's my interpretation of it.
	Is there like an ideology or doctrine as it relates to dating?
	Like with the red pill, I guess there is.
	There's plenty that I'd probably disagree with there.
	For example, I think a red pill idea is I actually don't quite know, but like some red pillars are very anti-relationship and they're just like, okay, well.
	Incel heavy.
	Well, I don't know if that's necessarily incel, but they just will like jump from like sexual encounter to sexual encounter without really much meaningful relationship pursuit.
	I reject that.
	I think I'm against that.
	But so I don't know.
	Red pill is just sort of this nebulous term that I don't know if it just means like believing in the truth.
	Who could actually ever be against?
	Well, you know what's interesting?
	There was this video, and Nick, I don't know if you can find it.
	There was this woman who worked for, I don't know if she worked for like Wikipedia or she worked for PBS or something or and she said that we need to live in a wait does anybody in the chat know what I'm talking about?
	Like she said we need to live in a she worked for Wikipedia or like PBS or wait not PBS and she was trying to say that she's giving a speech and she was saying that you know we're We're a little too focused on the truth.
	NPR, maybe.
	It might have been NPR.
	And Nick, can you just find like NPR woman truth?
	Maybe they'll find it.
	I don't know.
	Catherine Moore.
	Yeah, she did some, whatever.
	In any case, I do think that the truth can definitely get in the way of ideology.
	Like, for example, are you feminist?
	I would consider myself one.
	Yeah, so when it comes to feminist research, for or yeah, if you look at a lot of feminist research, feminist research starts with a conclusion and it works backwards.
	So it's like feminist research goes in thinking, okay, a patriarchy does exist.
	And so we're going to interpret everything through the lens of patriarchy.
	That's not truth-finding.
	Feminism is about reaffirming the ideology.
	And anything that they can find to the contrary of their positions, they're going to either like do shifting of the, they're going to like try to reanalyze the data.
	They're going to like, there's specific terms for it in research where you like, I don't know, pee hacking.
	Yeah, thank you, Nick.
	There's all kinds of stuff that you can do to ultimately get the answer you want.
	And there's all kinds of things and, you know, research that doesn't find the, you know, the sound bite that you're looking for.
	There's all kinds of like publisher perish.
	You know, if you and research that tends to show that women are oppressed and victims, that's going to continue getting funding.
	So they have massive incentives to continue making sure that they find evidence.
	Evidence that they're pushing a certain standpoint gets more funding?
	Yeah.
	Even if it's on a completely false basis.
	Can I ask you a question?
	I don't know the exact timeframe of this, but I believe in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, the tobacco industry did.
	And I think they even found that smoking cigarettes was actually healthy for you.
	So there was all these studies done, and they were able to find that, you know, oh, smoking tobacco is actually good for you.
	And they were sort of, they were hiding the findings of, hmm, this actually causes like really detrimental health problems.
	It causes cancer.
	So this is actually kind of almost exactly what's going on with feminism.
	I disagree because the tobacco companies had a direct incentive, which is if they say cigarettes are safe, that boosts sales.
	I don't think there's like a financial gain from saying, hey, feminism exists.
	And I'm not saying that there aren't people who are, you know.
	No, you just.
	Well, actually, I do.
	So first off, there is actually, there is a financial gain, but there's an ideological motivation, massive ideological motivation.
	But even on just the financial component, these feminists, like, I believe that we've achieved equality.
	I believe that there's parity between men and women.
	We have equality.
	What are you guys fighting for?
	There's a lot of things that, in theory, yes, you know, equal rights, but there are a lot of things that still need a lot of catching up to do.
	Like, I think it wasn't until the 1990s where pharmacological companies would have to actually test on women.
	So things like any drug you take was only done on men.
	And so the side effects, the dosage, things like that were only tested on men in the 1990s.
	And yes, you can say, oh, that was, you know, forever ago and things are changing.
	And, you know, maybe things are good now.
	But I think very, very recently, the FDA just released their first female dummy build for car crashes.
	Like, that is very recent.
	So I think things still need to catch up in that regard.
	The crash test dummies.
	Yeah.
	I think I've seen these.
	I've heard about the crash test thing.
	I don't really find this particularly compelling, I guess.
	It seems like.
	So women who are less likely to get into car accidents but are more likely to die from them isn't kind of shitty for women because they're not testing.
	I mean, whoever gets into a car crash, yeah, that's a bad thing regardless of your gender.
	But I'm not sure if – so essentially it's just like these crash test dummies, there wasn't – It wasn't built the same.
	There weren't titties on the crash testing.
	Yes, there was no titties and ass.
	I mean, it's not clear to me if that, like, I don't understand.
	That's one example of money.
	It's just things that are like, what would be the application?
	Like, what would be the actual fix?
	Like, I don't understand.
	Like, also, let's also assume that there are women who are small chested, who have small breasts.
	And so I mean, I don't know.
	Well, you can ask the people who made the dummies.
	How else do you make a seatbelt to accommodate for women's breasts?
	I'm not entirely sure.
	I'm not a car expert, but I'm sure if you look at why that actually matters, that's, you know, there's things that...
	Well, I'm not actually, it's not even clear to me why you need a crash test dummy.
	I think for the way that they build the cars and the way that they are able to actually see for whatever numbers, you know, I'm sure there's a reason.
	But also, I think there's things like for ADHD and autism, all of the symptoms, they present very differently in men and women.
	And so the diagnoses for men are much easier to do.
	My brother was diagnosed at 8 years old, and I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was 16.
	And we were very similar.
	Women are better at masking.
	Yeah.
	But again, we can point to all kinds of differences.
	And sure, there are still perhaps sort of, you know, these small ways in which women might be prejudiced against or disadvantaged against.
	But do you think we genuinely need like feminism is that's ideology, right?
	Do you think we need feminist studies in order to affect these changes in society for the sake of women?
	I'm not a feminist study.
	I haven't taken very many feminist classes.
	You're a feminist, though.
	I would consider myself a feminist because I believe in the equal.
	I mean, if you look at, I think the definition for feminism is believing in equality among sexes.
	No?
	I don't think that's a problem.
	I think that there's different interpretations.
	I think there's modern day feminism where people are like, you know, more misandrist.
	And I'm, you know.
	Are you a misandrist?
	I wouldn't consider myself one, no.
	Well, I was saying that last time.
	I think misandry and feminism are very different.
	And I think feminism is the advocacy for equal rights and like believing in equal rights.
	And misandry is, you know, believing one is better than the other.
	Metro Matt donated $200.
	As Tim Pooh likes to say, counterculture.
	Redbill is a term coined by the gens.
	Whatever specifically opens the dialogue to counter misandry and the current female toxicity.
	Yo, Metro Matt, thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	We're going to just dive right back in, but we have John GQ here.
	Google Kinsey's Table 34.
	Ask Willow what she thinks about Kinsey's research methodology.
	Nick, if you can just pull up the Wikipedia for that.
	I don't even know if there's a Wikipedia for that, but I don't know if you can just table 34 for Kinsey.
	Kinsey's Table 34, if you want to get that going.
	And we'll pull that up later.
	But, Well, I mean, look, as far as the definition of feminism, my charitable definition of feminism would be women's advocacy.
	That's it.
	But that's not equality.
	So equality is something different.
	Feminism has completely failed at any point at any time to ever really care about equality.
	To be clear, there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
	That's totally fine.
	That's totally fine.
	I advocate for men.
	If women want to advocate for women, there's nothing wrong with that.
	But don't try to parade feminism around.
	Don't try to like lie to us.
	Who said I'm parading it around?
	Damn.
	What's that?
	Who said I'm parading it around?
	Well, I mean, that is, I'm not saying specifically about feminists.
	No, what I'm saying is that feminists do parade around and want to think they have some sort of moral high ground by touting that it's this movement, this ideology is about equality when it just demonstrably isn't.
	It's demonstrably about women's advocacy, but to claim that feminism is about equality, it's just.
	So women gaining the right to vote.
	You said at any time, at any point in history, feminism is not about equality.
	Women wanting equality.
	So feminism in its totality has never been about true, pure equality.
	Now, it has achieved equality, but it's not about equality.
	So what I mean by that is, yes, of course, there are some instances where it has fought for perhaps men had some sort of benefit or privilege or right that women didn't, right?
	And they equalized it.
	However, as you bring up the voting rights or whatever.
	So do you know when women got the right to vote?
	What year?
	God, I should know this, but.
	It was 1920.
	Yeah.
	So do you have something?
	There's different types of feminism as well, like intersectional feminism is all it's all bullshit.
	It's all bullshit.
	And it's all, it's never been about equality at any point.
	So back to this.
	Voting rights.
	Women have had the right to vote for 105 years.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	In order for men to have secured the right to vote, there is something attached to that called duty and responsibility.
	Women were able to secure the right to vote without any duty, without any responsibility.
	Without being able to have the duty.
	A lot of, like, what duties are you talking about?
	Like the ability to work?
	Women didn't have the ability to work.
	You tell me what you think I'm talking about.
	Why don't you just tell me what you're talking about?
	So, okay, maybe you missed it.
	Forced military conscription, the draft, the selective system.
	How would that be relevant?
	How is that?
	It's a great red herring.
	It's a great red herring.
	I'm happy to have a conversation about who set the system up.
	But first, we need to stay focused on the fact that women have the right to vote and they have no duty or responsibility to this country.
	Men do.
	They have duties and responsibility.
	No, they don't.
	They don't.
	Tell me, which duty do women have?
	Raising children.
	That's not a duty.
	Is it not?
	No. If you want to go...
	Hold on.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	If you want to go your whole life and never have children, will the government force you to have children?
	No, but they will, you know, society, I mean, government.
	No, the government won't do anything.
	The government, though.
	No, and society doesn't even really care either.
	Nowadays, less so, but back in the day, yeah.
	Yeah, sure.
	There was a bit of a social stigma like 50 years ago.
	Although women have been spinsters for a very long time, and there's really very little, like if you live, yeah, if you live in pretty much anywhere, especially in like an urban setting, no, you're not going to be shamed if you don't have children.
	There's not going to be like massive social stigma.
	You're not going to be shunned.
	You're not going to be barred from like social, like society writ large.
	So again, I'm asking, what duty do women have to society or to the nation?
	They're half of the population.
	They become, you know, part of the workforce.
	I mean, like, what are you going to do?
	Women don't have a duty to work.
	So, what duty do men have then again?
	Yeah, so men do have a duty, and that duty would be forced military conscription.
	Okay.
	And so women have secured the right to vote for 105 years without any corresponding duty.
	And in order for men to be able to vote, they have to be subject to the draft towards forced military conscription.
	Okay, then change it.
	Right?
	But you exactly.
	So when we're talking about equality, though, if it is.
	Look, I guess to break down my definition of feminism.
	What's up?
	I have to take a third word.
	Okay, that just.
	So, okay, feminism, women's advocacy.
	Nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
	I don't believe it's equality, right?
	And the reason I don't believe it, if feminism was truly about equality, if there was a form of equality that somehow came to the detriment of women, feminists will not fight for it.
	In this case, the draft.
	But I'm a feminist who agrees that women should be drafted.
	Okay, do you think, is there a massive movement?
	Are there women protesting in the streets with pussy hats or military helmets?
	Hey, we want to be drafted too.
	Who wants to be drafted?
	Right, but that's exactly it.
	Wouldn't it achieve equality then?
	You should start a movement.
	First off, it's not politically tenable.
	Trust me, any politician on the liberal side or the conservative, especially the conservative side, you're not going to win an election if you think women should have to be drafted.
	But yes, it's not politically tenable.
	So that's how it is.
	But that would be equality, wouldn't you agree?
	Yeah.
	You have something?
	Yeah.
	I guess let me start off by saying, you know, I'm a feminist and I have my own personal beliefs behind that.
	But kind of, you know, in regards to what you were saying about women and war, if women are going to war, what are we fighting for?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	If women have to go to war, then it's like, what are the ideologies that fuel war or like conflict between nations?
	And the real question is, what are you protecting?
	Because in my mind, men go to war.
	And forgive me if this sounds like a brutalist take, but men go to war and fight to protect women and children.
	Ah, and hold on.
	This is.
	It's interesting you say that.
	You just said you're a feminist?
	Correct.
	How can you possibly reconcile the two completely conflicting statements?
	Do you believe in equality?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Okay, so if men have a higher burden, a higher duty, a responsibility to protect women and children, that places men have a duty, and that places women in a privileged role in society.
	Correct.
	That's not equality.
	Feminism has just collapsed under your own statement.
	Okay, so can I follow up to that?
	Of course.
	So I will be the first person to say that feminism does not create a safe space for men.
	It doesn't.
	Modern feminism in its current iteration does not create a safe space for men.
	I say that as a leftist.
	I say that as a feminist.
	I say that as somebody that leftism doesn't create a safe space for men either.
	But we could get into that too.
	That's another conversation.
	But I feel like as a feminist, it should be our number one gripe and our number one thing that we criticize within ourselves is that, you know, we should be, if we're fighting for equality and we're fighting for the egalitarianism of all, especially with like intersectional feminism, like you said, you know, there should be a space that men can be a part of the feminist movement without feeling like their manhood or their masculinity is threatened by that.
	Yeah.
	And I think that the first step is by taking things like the conversation that you're having about war and about men going to war or women being drafted.
	It's like, you know, yeah, it makes sense.
	Oh, you know, if we want the right to vote, oh, we have to go to war.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You know, like, let's get into that.
	Let's get into that.
	So I just want to ask why you think it's so important that women should be able to be drafted.
	It's not like I think it's super important, but I think that, you know, if we are half of the country, I'm not, again, I don't think that people should be drafted.
	I don't think that you should be held to, that's just my personal opinion, but that is a very hippie opinion.
	I'm going to take that.
	I think that women have a lot to offer, and I think that I don't see a reason why not, I guess.
	So do you think if women were drafted into war, we would do as well in war?
	Like if women had to be in war, would we win our wars as easily as if like it's majority men?
	I think that, well, it's not to say that we're removing men from the battlefield.
	It's just adding more people to it.
	More women.
	More people overall by adding women.
	But my question was: if we're going to get women to go to war, then like, and men or women are all fighting wars together, then.
	Who does that help?
	Who does that benefit?
	What are we fighting for?
	I don't think what about the women fighting for our country right now to say that being drafted is pretty disrespectful to them because they volunteer.
	Yeah.
	They volunteered.
	Yeah, and people who have like, I don't know the exact wording of it, but who like finished their term in the military.
	Veterans.
	Yeah, veterans.
	I feel like they should be honored.
	Yeah.
	Because women take time to join the military and to say that they shouldn't be drafted would be like really disrespectful to all their hard work.
	Okay, so that's a separate conversation.
	My position is society has deemed that we ought to have equality, that we need, that men and women are equal.
	Okay, so women should be drafted.
	How do you get around that?
	What do you mean?
	How do you get around that?
	Well, I mean, I guess I'm sort of, you're fine with women being drafted.
	You are against it.
	I don't know if there's, you're against it.
	I don't know if you're again.
	Yes, they should be drafted.
	Yes, you're against it.
	I mean, again, though, you say you're a feminist, you believe in equality.
	I just don't know how you reconcile the splits wrong.
	I don't know how you reconcile believing in equality, but also believing that women shouldn't be subject to military conscription.
	So as far as like my stance on feminism, I think that, you know, what I was talking about was like having an ideal or having an ideologic, ideological standpoint that you are working towards or trying to achieve.
	And then, you know, the logical ramifications of like trying to get to that ideal.
	So we're, you know, I don't think that men and women are equal.
	I think that men and women bring completely different things to the table and that it's fine to say that.
	I think as a feminist, you know, or even as just like a person, you know, like.
	But feminism, the core tenant of feminism is equality between the sexes.
	That's the ideal.
	Okay, that's the ideal.
	That's not stating what it actually is.
	You're talking about red pill and like seeing things for what they actually are.
	So yes, I agree with you.
	Men and women are definitely different.
	Yeah.
	But when I'm saying that if society has agreed with feminism, if society has agreed that men and women are to be treated equally, then the clear extension of that needs to be applied, regardless of how much we protest and dislike it, women need to be drafted point blank, period.
	You think that women should be drafted if they have the right to vote?
	That's what you believe?
	Yes, that's what I believe.
	And do you think that that's wrong for women to be drafted?
	No, I don't think it's, I don't think it's wrong, no.
	It's not wrong in any sort of way.
	Look, I do think it's the case that when it comes to soldiers, female soldiers are not as capable as male soldiers.
	So are you agreeing with her that women should be drafted?
	That that's the most egalitarian approach to women having the right to be.
	Obviously, there are some men who are more capable than other men, and we kind of draft them regardless.
	So in this case, yes, women are not as physically strong as men, but you want equality.
	There should be equality.
	But my greater point here is going back to this idea of, okay, men in society have duties to society, women don't.
	So again, I'm asking you, what duties do women have to society?
	The same as any other person, you know, contributing to the same thing.
	Do women have the same duties as men?
	I think generally they're different, probably.
	Okay, so what are the different duties that women have in society?
	You don't even know?
	And you're a woman?
	You don't know?
	I don't know.
	You don't know because they don't exist.
	Oh, wow.
	They don't exist.
	That's why you don't.
	What are the duties that men have other than being drafted?
	I mean, that's pretty much the only one I'm going towards.
	So being drafted is your only example of like being.
	Okay.
	That's not just.
	We're not just going to, hold on.
	We're not just going to hand wave away the fact that, yes, this is a massive duty.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	I get that.
	But like, after we agreed, because I agree, women should be drafted the same as men.
	I think nobody should be drafted, but I think, you know, whatever.
	After that, then what?
	We're agreeing.
	Are we not?
	Right, but so now that we're agreeing that, you agree, then an equality that does exist between men and women.
	If women get to the benefit, women have a extra benefit, I guess you could say, and men have a detriment.
	Men, men have a disadvantage, women have an advantage.
	Why?
	Because they're not getting drafted, so it's not even drafted.
	It's the selective service system, but being potentially subject to it is really the main thing.
	So if it is the case that, in order to vote, Women don't have to do a requirement and men.
	Let me ask you a different question.
	If white people What about disabled people?
	Disabled people can't join the military.
	Yeah, you can't get drafted if you're disabled.
	So do you think they should be able to vote if you have autism?
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's a really good point.
	That is a good point.
	They should vote.
	Yeah.
	Disabled.
	There's a certain level of combat readiness.
	So, but my position would be: given that we allow women to volunteer for the military, the United States government has made a determination that women at some level are capable of being soldiers.
	However, they've also made a determination that people who are disabled to some degree, it depends on the disability, regardless of their gender, are barred from military, volunteer military service.
	So yes, under a draft, if you're disabled, you would be barred regardless of your gender.
	So I actually, I don't really think that that's any sort of rebuttal to my point.
	I'm asking if disabled people are allowed to vote.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	So, but then you're saying if I'm a disabled person and I have...
	Are you arguing that all women are disabled?
	No.
	Maybe they, that sounds like what you're trying to say.
	No.
	Because being a woman isn't an intrinsic bar from military service.
	It's just another example of people who would not be drafted.
	You're saying being drafted is the duty.
	If I'm disabled as a man and I'm not able to be drafted, I then don't have that duty, but I still have the right to vote.
	Technically, so hold on.
	Technically, a man who is disabled would be subject to draft, but he wouldn't be.
	Perhaps the term is evading me.
	What's that?
	No, he, I mean, no, no, no, no, he wouldn't probably even be allowed into the military, but just by virtue of him being a man, he is still, he still has to register with a selective service.
	Now, if he was called upon and he didn't meet the threshold for actually being eligible to become a soldier, then under that circumstance, no.
	You don't think he should be able to vote?
	No, no, hold on.
	I'm saying no, he wouldn't end up having to do military service because of his disability.
	And because he would not be drafted, does he have the right to vote?
	If you're a man who's disabled, then yes.
	You would still get the right to vote.
	Okay, but he doesn't have the duty.
	So why does he?
	You're saying that women need to be able to be drafted in order to have the right to vote because that's the duty.
	If you're a disabled man.
	I didn't quite say that.
	I didn't quite say that.
	But what I said was that there is women have secured the right to vote without the corresponding duty.
	I didn't actually make a prescriptive thing.
	I didn't prescriptively say we should take away women's right to vote.
	I didn't get there.
	No, but it did feel a little bit implied.
	I don't think it's necessarily implied, but I actually don't think that there would be anything wrong with that.
	Okay.
	So you think that women should not be able to vote?
	No, my position is we should equalize the drafts.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think we're agreeing.
	Yeah, I think we're agreeing.
	Right, but I think it's a bit of a, it's, it's, it's a false equivalence, this, you think you have something here.
	It's a complete false equivalence to compare people who are disabled.
	Unless you're not saying that.
	Unless you're saying women are disabled, which some people, misogynists like you might say.
	Yeah, I'm a misogynist.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's really misogynistic for you to compare women to just.
	I'm going against your argument, which is that women don't have the duty.
	They don't.
	Because, yes, so that's your argument, that women don't have the duty, and therefore, they have the right to vote without their duty.
	People who have even attempted suicide are barred from, that's just an example, under the disability or anybody who's not eligible to be drafted, they still have the right to vote without having that duty.
	So I don't understand how those two things can exist in your argument.
	What do you mean?
	What two things?
	Women not having the, not being drafted, but in having the right to vote and, you know, however you feel about that.
	And then people who are also, you know, men who are disabled and who are not able to be drafted also don't have that right, but are also still able to vote.
	So it's not just a women thing.
	It's anybody who's not being able to be drafted thing.
	No, no, no.
	If that's your one duty, which, you know, I understand that perspective.
	If the one duty is being drafted, it determines your stance on, you know, whether they should vote, then I don't quite understand that.
	Yeah, I mean, again, it's a complete false equivalence.
	I guess the most simple...
	They're not equal, but they are two examples that are different.
	And I think it just doesn't, I don't think your argument stands still.
	My argument doesn't stand still.
	So then prescriptively, what would you say?
	You think, do you think disabled people shouldn't be able to vote?
	I think that if you work hard in a country, if you pay your taxes, if you're a good citizen, if you do all the things that you're supposed to do, then you should have the right to vote.
	You should be able to determine how the country goes if you are participating in it.
	Yeah, the only issue here is that to be of the essence to be subject to.
	So men, just men of their essence, are subject to military conscription.
	Now, there are certain limitations, though, as to who within that criteria would be subject.
	For example, men who are in their 60s, they're men, but they're not going to be subject.
	And I'm not making some sort of statement here that, well, only men who are, you know, only these men who are of a certain age, only they have a duty.
	It was, you had a duty at one point.
	In this case, for men who are in their 50s, 60s, and 70s, right?
	Well, I think they probably even stop.
	But I'm agreeing that women should be drafted.
	Right.
	But the law as it currently exists, the law as it currently exists, if you read the law as it relates to drafting, it only includes, there's a differentiation between men and women.
	And I don't know, maybe there's language in there as it relates to able-bodied.
	Right.
	I think, were you Trina?
	Yeah, so if women shouldn't vote because they don't have that duty to the country, then does that mean they also shouldn't be able to run for office?
	Wait, that's not my argument here.
	It kind of feels like it, though.
	I don't know.
	Am I the only one?
	What?
	That's what I got, that since women, you know, don't.
	not talking about politics i'm talking about this was a dating podcast not politics man Yeah, well, we're investigating your criticism of the podcast, and we're talking about feminism.
	And feminism is very much tied into dating.
	So that's something separate.
	If you want to contemplate that on your own time, you're welcome to.
	I think it's important we stick to the primary subject here.
	And the primary subject is essentially that, look, we can talk about all these other hypotheticals and scenarios or whatever.
	I would like to maybe look at the language of selective service system.
	I assume I believe the language applies to able-bodied men.
	And if you look at the actual language, though, it completely precludes women from being subject to military conscription.
	And so we can get into these other things.
	You can do a red herring to try to distract from the point, but like, let's actually narrow in back to the original conversation, which was a criticism of feminism.
	And the criticism of feminism was essentially, hey, women have had 105 years to advocate for equality and they haven't.
	They haven't advocated for equality because they want the right to vote.
	They want to do the things that men are allowed to do and that they've been historically barred from.
	Yeah, it's a great straw man there.
	But so what we were specifically talking about was as it relates to voting rights, men have an extra duty to society that women don't.
	And so when we're talking about feminism as an equality movement, my position is, and I'll restate it again, is that if feminism, essentially feminism, if there's a version of equality that doesn't stand to benefit women and comes at the detriment of women, feminists won't fight for it.
	And this would be clear evidence that feminists aren't actually interested in a true and pure equality.
	They're strictly about women's advocacy, which, again, I don't have an issue with women's advocacy, but don't paint it incorrectly and erroneously as an equality movement when it clearly isn't.
	I can give you other examples of ways in which feminists will fight against equality.
	In Florida, I think it was, I could be wrong with the specific name of the organization.
	I believe it was the National Organization for Women now, which I think is the preeminent, the number one women's organization in the United States.
	I believe an approximation of what I'm about to say is correct.
	Florida was trying to basically, in the event of a custody dispute between parents.
	Oh, that's a big one, yeah.
	In the law, the woman was the default custodian of children.
	And there's been a massive push in legislatures to equalize that.
	Well, we should default to no.
	Actually, it should be 50-50 custody.
	Both mothers and fathers play a critical role in early child development and throughout the whole course of their life, really.
	And feminists were actually, because it conceivably was to the detriment, because women want the full custody, women want full custody.
	They don't necessarily want that.
	So they fought against it.
	They fought against giving fathers equal rights to their children.
	So explain, I guess, again, I guess we need more male feminists who can push.
	Feminism baked into the word itself.
	It's sort of emblematic of an inequality.
	You've included like a feminine.
	Well, there's another term that would be more appropriate.
	Just call yourself an egalitarian, but actually believe in equality.
	Feminism views things through an anti-male lens and really typically only cares about advocation for women.
	There's really not much advocation for men in much of feminists.
	I wonder why that might be.
	Maybe historical context.
	I don't know.
	Well, you can be sarcastic all you want, but actually, I'm not clear on the historical context.
	My position is even historically, men have been more disadvantaged than women.
	Based off of being drafted?
	Oh, all sorts of different things.
	Yeah.
	But I would even argue, if you want to strawman my position like that, I would argue that warfare and forced military conscription is a bigger grievance than all of women's collective grievances combined.
	And I respect your opinion.
	I disagree, but I respect it.
	Right.
	Well, can you state a grievance?
	Like in terms of the suffering that's uniquely and nearly exclusively inflicted upon men.
	Hold on.
	Stop.
	So I'm happy to have you answer, but let me at least finish first.
	Can you point to a grievance?
	Can you point to a suffering worse than war?
	I think war is pretty fucking terrible.
	Is it the okay, sure?
	Is there a strong opinion?
	Is there a uniquely female grievance that in turn or higher suffering than war?
	It's really kind of ranking suffering.
	I think it's a lot of money.
	And also, women do.
	I think one of the questions was, you know, women do suffer from war.
	I think rape and attacks and fucking murder, you know, have you seen like the stuff that's going on, you know, fucking all over the world?
	Have you seen the stuff that's going on?
	I try not to.
	With war?
	War?
	Never heard of it.
	Yeah.
	So there's no dispute that bad things do happen to women during wartime.
	But you're making the claim that it's not.
	When did I make that claim?
	You just said that things are primarily.
	I think that's planning my position.
	Well, no, is this not a debate?
	It is a debate, but that doesn't give you license to strawman my position.
	My apologies.
	I'm very sorry.
	Okay, so what do you think I was saying?
	I think you were saying something about men being primarily affected by war.
	Do you disagree?
	I think that I don't know enough about the stats, but I could assume so because of the draft.
	But again, I disagree on the draft.
	Even if there's not a draft, men would still be the primary victims of war.
	But you can't actually make a determination right here and right now that either current day or even historically that men are and were the primary victims of war and will be?
	By victims, I'm guessing you mean by death and injury and things like that.
	All of it.
	Okay.
	Probably.
	All potential paradigms.
	Yeah, men are the primary victims of war in totality.
	Probably.
	What do you mean probably?
	I mean...
	You can't say definitively?
	Probably seems a bit.
	I haven't done the research on this.
	I'm open to changing my mind.
	So just to be clear, so World War I, World War II, these are the most historically researched incidences ever.
	There's massive amounts of documentation.
	This is one of the primary mechanisms and ways in which men suffer and men have, well, really quite terrible outcomes in life.
	You don't know enough about it?
	I'm not a historian, and also I think that, you know, if you take into account the shit that happens to, like, especially in, I think, God, what was it?
	Like, the kinds of shit that soldiers will do to like native civilians, to female people, like rape, as, you know, and they're like, well, you know, we're soldiers.
	We can, I think that is not.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	So I'm not sure.
	And I think I'm not sure who has.
	And I also don't think that that's an important part of the conversation.
	I think everybody fucking suffers from war.
	I don't think war benefits anybody.
	Well, there's no doubt that everyone suffers when there's a war.
	However, do you can people suffer in gendered ways?
	Sure.
	Okay, so like, for example, would you say women are the primary sufferers of rape?
	Like that specific thing is kind of gendered.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why can't you make a sort of granting that war, where it's almost always men, that's a uniquely gendered way in which men suffer?
	Yeah.
	No, not just probably, like you did before.
	Like, yes, this is like it's undeniable.
	You're not going to make me say absolutely yes.
	I'm saying probably because I keep an open mind.
	But it's not just probably.
	There is no dispute that men are the primary sufferers of war.
	What do you guys think?
	I'm curious.
	Am I the only one who feels this way?
	Men are the primary sufferers.
	I agree with you that men are the primary sufferers of war.
	Yes.
	I don't really know.
	Yeah.
	How do you not know?
	Because I don't do research on this in my spare time.
	Would you handle that?
	Women are losing their families?
	Yeah.
	This is, I mean, I don't know if it's just ignorance, but if I were to say something like, you know, when it comes to pregnancy and giving birth, you know, women probably are the primary sufferers there.
	You know, when you're sitting there in the hospital with your wife and she squeezes your hand.
	I think that too.
	Your pregnant wife squeezes your hand really hard when she's pushing out a baby out of her vagina.
	You know, I can't definitely, as a man, I can't definitively say women are the primary sufferers of, you know, going through a pregnancy.
	You know, it could be the men.
	Probably it's the women, but I can't definitively say it.
	I guess you're right.
	I mean, but how I kind of think about it too is what about the men who lose their wives or children during childbirth?
	Because it's like that's fucked.
	You know, this is the woman.
	But I think women primarily suffer.
	Yes, yes, good point.
	So much, much like war, much similar to war.
	I said I think women primarily suffer during childbirth.
	But hold on.
	Yes, but okay, even in your situation where the woman dies in childbirth, and yes, that's going to be terrible to the parents and the husband.
	And if she has other kids, that's awful for them.
	But I'm never going to say they're the primary victim.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying that.
	They are secondary victims to her being the primary victim.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So in this case, yes, the question in here is about, yes, men are the primary victims of war.
	But you say probably.
	Why does that bother you so much?
	Well, it bothers me because it is so crystal clear.
	It's not just, you know, head scratch.
	World War II, especially, is the most researched and documented incident to have ever occurred.
	Not by me, though.
	How would that matter?
	Because you're asking for my specific opinion.
	I haven't done research on that.
	You don't need to do research, though.
	You can just explore it logically.
	So if it is the case that throughout all of human history, but in World War II, I guess we'll use that one as the example, it was near, I think there was like a few thousand Russian female snipers or some bullshit.
	Millions and millions of men soldiers.
	Are you taking civilians into account though?
	Even including civilians.
	A much higher proportion of men died.
	And that's why I say probably.
	Because it's a higher.
	It's not just probably.
	It's factual.
	If I say yes, will you be happy?
	Well, it's just interesting that you can't even grant this one really clear-cut dimension in which, yes, men are uniquely and there's a gendered component to the male suffering as it relates to war.
	I said probably.
	I'll die on that hill, dude.
	You know, it's probably, probably, you know, when it comes to pregnancy, probably women suffer more, but I don't know enough.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, you can be bad faith about it, but.
	I think men do after this conversation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, dude, we got more dudes.
	What do you think?
	You're wearing the uniform.
	Come on, guy.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm trying to understand who's trolling because it sounds like you're trolling right now.
	I like to keep an open mind.
	Okay.
	No, I just think she's being a little bit bad faith about it.
	No, but honestly, I equally agree with both of you.
	I think you guys have good perspectives.
	I just think we're beating around the bush a little bit.
	I just wanted to talk about dating.
	I think that in certain segments, women are definitely in terrible situations.
	And with war and everything, I would say, I mean, fairly obvious that more men are at war.
	So does that answer the question?
	But so I guess, again, I'll pose it to you.
	Do you think women are the primary victims of war?
	Probably not.
	Okay, probably not.
	Okay.
	I guess my criticism then continues a little bit.
	If you don't have a sort of base understanding of, because if as a feminist, you're doing an analysis.
	I guess the easiest way for me to break it down would be this is essentially feminism.
	Women have it worse than men.
	That's like if you had to boil it down very simplicitly, simplicity.
	Do you disagree with that, though?
	On like a global scale?
	Do you think that women have it worse than men?
	Men have it worse.
	I think men and women have unique issues that they face.
	Although again, like I, it's my position that, okay, just focus, focus.
	It would be my position that, yes, I do think historically and even modern day that, yeah, men have it worse.
	Okay.
	But it's interesting, as a man, if you say that, you're basically just echoing what feminists have been saying.
	And so it's funny that feminists would like be really offended if men were to do a dismissal of their framework of looking of how they look at society.
	Essentially, how feminists look at society is men oppressor, women oppressed.
	Men advantaged, women disadvantaged.
	Men privileged, women unprivileged or lacking in privilege.
	And so it's interesting that there's this sort of, I guess essentially when you, when feminists start talking about and you open up the door to doing an analysis of, hold on, here's how we have it worse.
	You can't actually be surprised when the sort of other group is like, well, hold on, you're saying all this stuff, but have you actually done a like an analysis of the ways in which men have it worse?
	And really feminists kind of completely ignore it.
	So, and if you do ignore it, and the fact that, I mean, if it is, if warfare has been one of the primary mechanisms and ways in which men have suffered throughout history and have suffered horrifically, I mean, the fact that you don't really know about war, I would encourage you to like even just, you can even watch like fictional depictions of war.
	You can go watch like all quiet on the Western Front.
	I don't think women truly have an appreciation for the brutality and suffering that, like, I don't know if like you view war in this sort of glory-glory sort of way, but I don't think women have a full grasp and understanding of like the actual physical and mental suffering inflicted upon men in warfare.
	I really don't think they do.
	And so I think if your analysis of you're going to boil down, well, women have it so bad.
	It's like, well, I don't know if in the 1910s, I don't know if between the years of 1914 and 1918, when women didn't have the right to vote just a few years before they did get the right, I don't know if 18, 19, and 20-year-old women would have wanted to trade with men.
	I don't know if they would have wanted to trade the supposed privileges and lack of privileges.
	If we were sending women to, if we were sending women to the Ardennes and the Argonne and Amiens and Bella Wood and all these, you don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.
	Perhaps you should do a bit of research on World War I. History is not my favorite.
	Well, it's interesting, feminists don't know much about history.
	Based off of me?
	Each other feminists?
	They don't know anything.
	They don't even know when World War II was.
	They don't know.
	Because of my answers, I'm not the only feminist.
	Well, If you don't even have a base level understanding of warfare and you're going to tell me historically women had it worse than men, okay, do you know about Trenchfoot?
	No, never heard of it.
	Do you know about mustard gas?
	No, never heard of it.
	Do you know about all the myriad, the massive amounts of ways that men have uniquely and exclusively suffered in warfare?
	You don't.
	How can you possibly ever do a reasonable and good faith comparison about the ways in which men and women had it worse?
	The reality is that, look, women definitely had it worse in some ways.
	Men had it worse in some ways.
	But women have completely turned a blind eye and ignored all the ways that modern day and historically men have had it bad and men could have conceivably had it worse.
	That's a fair point.
	Yes, it is.
	It is, but whatever.
	It's kind of interesting.
	No, I appreciate that.
	I think that, you know, that is something that'd be taken into the conversation.
	I think I would consider myself more of an egalitarian, whatever.
	I don't know about that, but.
	No, have I not proven that by saying, and again, I like to stay feminists.
	Yeah, but I would say more so because my interpretation of feminism has been equality.
	Same.
	So.
	But I, okay, so I don't know how else to put it.
	I guess the real, the simplest way I could break this down is: would you agree that women have had voting rights for over 100 years?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you do you agree with me that in order for men to be able to vote in this country, they had to be subject to military conscription?
	Yeah.
	As written by law.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And they have, in fact, even after the women's suffrage, they have been drafted in numerous devastating military conflicts.
	World War II, Vietnam, the Korean War.
	Yes.
	There are men who would be alive today had they not been drafted.
	There are men who are alive today who were drafted, who have severe PTSD.
	You have PAT.
	Well, hold on.
	I'm not.
	Okay, I'm not going to get into that.
	All good.
	All good.
	Well, no, okay.
	I'm not going to go there.
	And there are men who have injuries.
	There are men who were in Vietnam.
	They have missing arms.
	They have missing legs.
	They have severe, severe either physical or mental scars, figuratively speaking.
	So, yeah.
	Can you explain then how it could possibly be that feminism is an equality movement, but they never was a push to be subject to the draft?
	I don't know if never.
	I think there's probably some, I think, probably smaller percentage, but you know.
	Well, do you acknowledge that this inequality exists on a systemic level of the draft?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So men have a systemic disadvantage and women have a systemic privilege.
	Sure.
	Okay, so that would mean that there isn't an equality under law.
	Yeah, and I think there's also tons of other examples where women have it better and men have it worse.
	Under law, explain.
	Like the parenting thing.
	Where men have it worse?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, no, I'm agreeing with you.
	Okay, I thought you were.
	No, no, no, I'm agreeing with you.
	I think there's tons of examples.
	And I think that, you know, I'm open to those.
	Under law, is there a way women have it worse?
	Oh, that women have it worse?
	I think we're moving past that lately.
	Okay.
	But so given, I mean, there's, I guess, you could point to like certain societal inequalities that aren't necessarily, hey, there's a law that, you know, is clearly discriminatory, right?
	At least towards women.
	You couldn't point to a law where it's like, whoa, women are being like uniquely discriminated against.
	This is an unequal right or law.
	There's no application you could point to?
	I, again, haven't done my research.
	I'm sure there's something, but no.
	Well, there isn't.
	I mean, really, the only one, which I feel like it's not even worth saying, is that in certain jurisdictions, men can go shirtless and like women can't, I guess.
	I don't really know if this is like a big raw-raw fight for feminists.
	By the way, in some areas, women can go, you know, without titties out, yeah, for the titty or whatever.
	It's not even clear to me if like women even really care about it.
	Which no one's supposed to, by the way.
	Yeah, men are fine.
	I don't even think women are really whatever.
	Who cares?
	But that's the only thing I can really think about.
	I think there's probably more examples that are like medical autonomy.
	And when it comes to what is it, like hysterectomies, you have to, you know, there's so many steps that women have to talk to, like bringing their partner or their usually male partner.
	I think those are fake news for that.
	Yeah.
	Now, you might say, well, hysterectomies, there's maybe more steps to getting it than the vasectomy, but that would, of course, conveniently ignore the fact that the hysterectomy is a far more invasive procedure than a vasectomy, which you can pretty much go in, snip, snip, you're out in 15, 20 minutes.
	I believe with the hysterectomy, there's anesthesia.
	They're really cutting into you.
	I believe.
	I don't know.
	I'm not a surgeon, but it's much more invasive in any case.
	But again, can you point to like an actual way in which legally speaking, women are disadvantaged?
	Do you guys have me?
	There's nothing.
	No?
	There's nothing.
	But I can point to a couple ways in which men are legally disadvantaged.
	Like the draft.
	Yes.
	And what else?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	So legally disadvantaged.
	Is that still really a thing like the draft law or the drafting?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I just like women are in the military right now.
	Yeah, volunteer, but women are not subject to military conscription.
	Yes, the draft is definitely a real thing.
	Well, I don't know.
	I was just making sure.
	Because at least, I don't know.
	Hold on.
	Do I want to play the video?
	I'll just say, I mean, really quickly, maybe we won't do the video, but yeah, yeah, we still got to do the champagne.
	We should do the champagne.
	Nick, if you want to get that for me, I'll get that going.
	But like, if you look at Ukraine, for example, that's like a current conflict going on right now.
	In Ukraine, at the onset of the war, all the women were allowed to leave the country.
	All the men between the, well, pretty much, I think, 18 to 65, they had to remain in the country.
	They couldn't leave.
	Why do you think that was?
	Because women are expected usually to give birth.
	You know, you can have.
	No?
	Well, why were the men required to stay?
	I'm not leading Ukraine.
	I'm not.
	What's that?
	I'm not leading the government of Ukraine.
	I think it's just, you know, the gender norms.
	No, but why would they, let's say there was a, you know, you lived on the border or something near the border of a neighboring country with Ukraine or whatever.
	Well, you're in Ukraine, then there's a bordering nation.
	The women could cross.
	They could leave.
	The men could not.
	Right.
	So why do you think the Ukrainian government didn't want the men specifically leaving?
	Well, they need people to fight their war.
	Yeah.
	And so in Ukraine, you have something really fascinating happening.
	So, you know, we can talk about, oh, you know, wage gap.
	And, you know, you'll cite to some sort of fairly benign disadvantage women have in society.
	The Ukrainian women, they would go to Stockholm.
	They went to Miami.
	We actually had a girl who was Ukrainian who fled, I believe, and she was in Miami living her best life.
	You had Ukrainian women all over Europe going to clubs, partying, fucking men in these other countries.
	Meanwhile, the men in Ukraine, many of them had to stay.
	They had to die.
	They had to be in the trenches.
	They had to be in the front line.
	They got fucking droned to death.
	I don't know.
	There's a video I posted on my ex where it showed Ukrainian women partying and drinking and like having a good time on the left side and on the right side.
	On the right side, it showed literal drone attacks.
	So basically, you know, have you seen drone footage?
	No.
	Wait, not a full footage.
	I mean, probably.
	Well, you know, drones, those things with the cameras, and it's like aerial.
	Yeah?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So are you familiar with like drone warfare?
	Not really.
	Okay.
	So you can basically, in essence, just to make boil it down super easily, these drones are incredibly, relatively cheap.
	They're much cheaper than the soldier.
	You strap a bit of an explosive onto a drone and you fly the drone into somebody and they're completely fragged.
	They're completely like, you know, they're killed, right?
	So these drones, they're like flying into soldiers and then, you know, they have camera feeds on them.
	And obviously, you know, the drone explodes, so the camera feed cuts off.
	But I'm sure you can imagine what ends up happening when the camera feed cuts off.
	What do you think?
	No bueno.
	Right.
	Like, it's, and it's always the men.
	You don't see women getting droned down.
	It sounds like you have a gripe with Ukraine for doing that then.
	Well, I believe it's both like Russia and Ukraine doing it.
	Well, yeah.
	But my point is, is that if we're having conversations of men are advantaged, men are privileged, women disadvantaged, women lacking in privilege.
	I think it goes both ways.
	And I think I've said that a few times.
	I don't, yeah, but I don't know if, at least, you know, look, that's a, you might say, well, Brian, that's a geographically isolated incident.
	Although, of course, we could look at like what's going on in the, or has been going on in the Middle East.
	Hold on, I'm going to wait for the champagne in just a sec.
	Yeah, it's a weird tend to puppet and talking about war.
	Would you say in Ukraine that the Ukrainian men for the past three, four years or whatever, I'm just throwing numbers out, whatever.
	However long the conflict's been going on, would you say, generally speaking, in Ukraine, the men or the women have been more advantaged or disadvantaged or privileged or not?
	Men.
	Okay, so you would agree that being able to slut yourself out in Miami nightclubs is probably not that I agree with that, but probably a better life outcome than being like in below freezing temperatures in some trench in bum fuck Ukraine and getting fucking, I don't know, droned or I don't know, killed by Russians.
	I feel like we're having the same conversation over and over again.
	I don't agree with the draft.
	No, that gave a little pop.
	Right.
	So what are we arguing about?
	Well, you're giving me I'm okay.
	I'm going to move it on to other topics.
	But do we have cups?
	You have a question.
	Behind me?
	All right.
	Here, can you pull up the super chats and I'm going to have somebody read them?
	Yay.
	Can I read them?
	No, I'm going to have you read them, okay?
	Can you read them?
	This one?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's amazing to see Chairwan be proud of her ignorance.
	Women like this are more and more prevalent in society.
	They have more education than men and sit in public spaces and pseudonyms.
	She's not trolling, she's just that dumb.
	Yo, emotional damage.
	I recognize your name, man.
	Thank you for the soup chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Hashtag.
	Just curious, we have champagne.
	Is it you?
	Do you want sober?
	Champagne.
	Do you want champagne?
	Yes, I do.
	Champagne?
	I would love some.
	Champagne.
	I'm sober.
	Champagne.
	Oh, yeah.
	Under a pregnant.
	Like, that's crazy.
	So that's going to be.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Do we still have that up?
	We'll see.
	Pull up the next one, Dave.
	Pull up the next one.
	Can I?
	Again?
	Okay.
	Hey, Brian.
	I love this podcast.
	Please do continue.
	Now, I may or may not be stupid here, but I was under the impression that this was a dating podcast, and I failed to see how this pertains to dating.
	Well, I guess it pertains to dating in the sense that Ukrainian women got to fuck a bunch of dudes in Miami and Ukrainian that's a good idea.
	I think that's the first thing that they went to.
	They were like, let me flee the country and fuck a bunch of dudes.
	Pretty much.
	I mean, yeah, they get to just continue their party girl lifestyle while their countrymen are dying.
	That's for you, Mary.
	All right.
	We are going to.
	Wait, wait, leave it.
	Pull it back up.
	But Sky of Winter, thank you for your very generous super chat.
	That's very nice.
	Pull up pasties.
	Pasty, thank you for the gifted 10 whatever memberships.
	Sorry for the delay on the champagne pop.
	I do apologize.
	Keebler Elf.
	I don't know if you're still watching.
	I meant to get it after the intros and stuff, but it got delayed.
	So cheers.
	Cheers.
	Salu.
	Salu.
	To Keebler Elf.
	There's a Spanish way of doing it.
	So you go.
	Great.
	Ariba.
	Oh, Abraham.
	That's it.
	There you go.
	Yes.
	Cheers now.
	Cheers.
	Cheers to that.
	Cheers to that.
	You're German.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah.
	Well, they are.
	All right.
	That's probably why I don't really like Trump floor, too.
	So I have more notes for you, but I'll come back to those later because I already gave you a lot of attention.
	Yeah.
	Eat.
	Oh.
	My bad.
	Oh, we have.
	Let's do some reacts.
	Let's do some fun reacts so we can get the whole panel involved.
	Let's do the first.
	Show me the first one.
	there's a few let's do the next one okay we'll do We will do that one later, though.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hey, let's do it.
	Oh, yeah.
	All right.
	I think this is.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	That's a red flag for me.
	Leftover taking my bad.
	That's my bad.
	Next one's one.
	Well, we'll do that one later.
	I think there should be a next one.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	What do you think is the male equivalent of giving flowers to women?
	So, like, as a or a female equivalent, they probably would want to say, like, what would we do to a man?
	To a man that would be equivalent to giving flowers.
	Like, what do you do for Christian?
	Thanks.
	You're like, I give you sex.
	Oh, that's hilarious.
	No, no flowers for you, Ronald Blavajava.
	What do you keep?
	All right, so the question is, what is the male equivalent of giving flowers?
	So I guess what would be the, is it the female, would it be the female equivalent or the what would be the female equivalent of giving flowers?
	Yes.
	Wait, hold on.
	What would be the right phrasing on that?
	That works.
	That works.
	We know what you mean.
	What is the, hold on, I want to phrase it properly.
	Okay, so men give women flowers.
	What would be the equivalent thing that women do?
	I feel like I've been taking up a lot of time.
	We're going around the table.
	So just you give your answer, then we go around.
	I mean, I have two answers.
	I think the cute answer is scrunchies, and I think that the more real answer is probably like putting on cute lingerie and, you know, things that...
	Nick, unmute, please.
	Go ahead.
	I think there's two answers.
	Probably the cute answer of like, here, you can have my little scrunchie as like a little thing.
	And then also.
	Yeah, I know.
	crazy and then scrunchie Okay.
	Yeah, it's like a cute little, you know, it's like giving someone a hoodie.
	A used.
	A used thing with your that's in your hair.
	And that's the thing is men don't really want that.
	I don't know.
	As a man, like, I don't know what you would want.
	Well, okay, so what was the second thing?
	Lingerie.
	And putting on a cute lingerie.
	So something for you.
	No, no, no.
	Putting on the lingerie and then, you know, a sexy date night or whatever.
	So, so, okay, something for you.
	What is for me?
	I don't understand.
	The lingerie is already owned.
	It's not like I'm.
	Can I ask?
	I want to ask the chat about the lingerie thing.
	If you've already slept with a girl dozens of times, you don't like it.
	Do you care?
	Like, does lingerie chat?
	Oh my God, she's in lingerie.
	I've already seen her naked.
	I've seen her butthole, but the sight of her in lingerie is really, no, no.
	What?
	I mean, flowers aren't exactly like the craziest thing either.
	That's a cute gesture.
	Yeah, but is it not the equivalent?
	Okay.
	I don't think so.
	What would you want as a man?
	Well, I'm going to let the rest of the panels answer.
	So what do you think?
	Baked good.
	Oh, yeah.
	Baked currency.
	And I've done this, and I've never given a man a scrunchie or lingerie as a gift in return for flowers, but I've made them banana bread.
	That'll do.
	So I think that's a good one.
	And that's what I would like give.
	I took time to make banana bread, and I thought of you, and I gave it to you.
	That's true.
	Okay, that's pretty good.
	What about you?
	That's a good answer.
	What about you?
	I was going to say respect.
	Respect?
	Yeah.
	That's the equivalent?
	I feel like that's what men want.
	Men do want that, but I don't know if that would.
	But if I pull up and I give a man a bouquet of flowers, he's going to feel disrespected.
	Well, it's not necessarily the same thing, but what would be an equivalent?
	I really like her answer.
	Bake food?
	Making a bake good, like men really do.
	Have you done that?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, what about you?
	What do you think?
	Wait, can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table and just leave it there?
	Never mind.
	Sorry.
	I've given my exes like succulents or like cactuses.
	That's cute.
	That's nice.
	I think that's like the equivalent since they're both plants.
	They're both plants.
	What do you mean?
	They live forever.
	I guess that's true, right?
	Yeah, they literally live forever.
	They take like no, you only have to water them once a week.
	And I love succulents.
	Great.
	They're cute.
	Cactus.
	Thank you.
	No, they're cute.
	What about you?
	Like a candle and also baked good like her.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cooking his favorite meal.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Probably taking him to an event he'd want to go to or a massage.
	Yeah.
	Like the UFC.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Whatever he wants.
	Yeah, yeah, definitely a warm cooked meal would be great.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you, Brian?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, I don't know if I guess like cookies or, you know, something, you know, like she baked for me, I guess.
	I guess that would be pretty good.
	But.
	A what?
	Oh my God.
	Get out of the bow.
	Or a video game.
	Wait, a bow.
	What's that?
	A video game.
	A video game?
	Yeah.
	I don't really play video games, but I guess that could be a nice thing.
	If the guy likes video games or whatever, that could be nice.
	A video game.
	Little gestures.
	A small gesture.
	Yeah.
	Guitar pick flowers if they're a musician.
	Can like build them.
	Yeah.
	I'm a little romantic.
	There's some decent answers.
	There's some decent answers, but scrunchie and what was the other thing you said?
	I would say lingerie.
	I don't know.
	Anything that you can wear with the next guy you're having sex with.
	Oh my God.
	I don't think that's a gift to me.
	That's fair.
	I don't wanna nuclear.
	I'm just saying.
	I know that my ex is appreciated when I dressed up a little bit.
	I'm not saying necessarily it's a best example of an equivalent.
	I think the baked goods and the succulents are better ideas, but that's just the first thing I came up with.
	Like, I don't know if you should buy a woman lingerie.
	Because there could be some fucked up shit where, like, you guys break up and not that it would really impact you aside from a like and she wears that shit with the next guy.
	Something about that seems fucked up.
	I do, that's a beauty.
	Yeah, like, ah, fuck him.
	I'm gonna, I don't know.
	All right, we have a chat here.
	Non-conforming $101 donated $200.
	Assuming you are in a monogamous relationship, if withholding money/slash resources is financial abuse, is withholding sexual intimacy sexual abuse?
	Explain the distinction if you think that it is.
	Oh, that's an interesting question.
	Thank you for that, man.
	Non-conforming.
	So withholding money resources is financial abuse.
	I assume, let's just say in the context of a marriage, to make it simple.
	Is withholding sex sexual abuse?
	No.
	Is it to punish someone?
	How about is it emotional abuse to withhold sex?
	It could be.
	Yeah, if it's to punish the person, then it's not really nice to do that.
	Question for you guys, because I need to get up momentarily.
	If I step away on this topic, will you guys have five minutes to be able to talk amongst yourselves on this?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Or will you need the guiding hand of a man to talk about it?
	Well, no, but I. Wow.
	They're not a man.
	Yeah.
	You can help.
	Yeah, you can help.
	Yeah, guide.
	The guiding hand.
	I didn't see it as a jibe, but that's funny.
	Okay.
	I don't think either of those things are abuse.
	Like, I think the term abuse should not be used in either of those.
	For financial terms.
	If someone's holding, withholding resources and money, I don't think that's abusive at all.
	Like, I don't think that's abusive.
	it is then if someone just not very nice Like, I don't know.
	I don't think it's abusive, but I don't know.
	And I do think they're equivalent.
	I think financial withholding resources and withholding a sex are the same thing.
	Think about this hypothetical.
	If you're in like a relationship with someone, and let's say, let's just assume the gender, like the man and the woman.
	Let's assume that the woman is like, every time she gets her paycheck, she's like trusting her man and she gives him half of her paycheck to put in a savings account.
	They're saving together and say that they're saving towards this common goal, but then one day when that common goal comes, it's supposed to come to fruition because of something that the woman said or did, the man withholds the money to prevent her from attaining, like almost to sabotage their common interest.
	What do you think about that?
	That's fucked up.
	Was the contribution equal?
	What's the display of the contributions?
	That's a good question.
	I would say like 50, 50 from each of them.
	Like they're both contributing to this account.
	That would greatly vary my answer depending on what contributions were.
	Let's say I make way less money than he does and I contribute $300 and he's contributed $10,000 and he's withholding $300 from me as someone who makes $10,000, whatever.
	How would that, does that change?
	Like because it's not 50-50, like I'm curious about your perspective.
	Is it withheld where is it supposed to be a shared activity?
	I guess.
	Okay.
	Can I?
	So yeah, where is it being dispersed?
	Yeah, add, yeah.
	So also, let's make the assumption that the man told the woman that he's going to save the money for both of them because he's more financially responsible.
	So there's also this like extra layer of allow me as your man to take care of this.
	So like if you're trusting him to do that and then he doesn't at the last minute because of something that you said or did, he makes a judgment that, you know, he's going to punish you financially.
	I think that that's fucked up.
	I think sex is a little bit different in the fact that like, you know, it's not like a bank of my body is not like a bank of sex that you can come withdraw the ATM anytime you want.
	That's not how sex works.
	Sex is about like personal autonomy and sharing space with someone else and consent.
	Yeah.
	And as long as there's consent, you know, it's like you can work out how you want to have a sexual relationship with someone.
	But if one party doesn't agree with the other, then it's not going to happen.
	Totally.
	It's not highly important though with the expectation.
	So if your expectations of each other as a partner, like one completely just drops down and that's no longer the behaviors in your relationship, I think at that, at a certain point, that's not fair.
	It's not, I wouldn't say like, fuck, fuck you, but that's no, that's not, that's not right.
	If the expectation and you're not, you're withholding to play games or get what you want or manipulate, it's very clear.
	It's pretty, pretty clear if you're able to discern somebody's intent and then being able to look at yourself too.
	Like, what are we doing?
	It's like manipulation versus abuse with the sex thing.
	Yeah.
	Like it's manipulation if you're like, oh, I'm not going to have sex with you tonight because you need this.
	Like that's manipulative.
	Well, I think people are really, why are you screaming like abuse?
	You know, these are really serious words that have very serious repercussions and absolutely deserve that because I'm not out here like saying is manipulation abuse?
	Okay.
	Can you give me an example?
	Like a specific example?
	Oh, I could give you a lot of examples.
	But what about you?
	What about you guys?
	What did you think about this withholding sex?
	Yeah, I think that does not classify as abuse because that's really serious.
	Yeah.
	It's more manipulation.
	And so I think manipulation is different from abuse.
	Like they're both bad, but they're not the same thing.
	I think for me.
	It depends sometimes, though, because some manipulation can be emotional abuse, but it depends on what the context is, really.
	I think for me, the first thing I kind of thought of was like, if you are single, you don't have to share your resources with anybody.
	The baseline is you own what you own and you are able to have sex or you do not have sex.
	And then in a relationship, it's, you know, like in marriage, it's like the resources are shared, but I think if the baseline is you're probably not having sex with that one person, that's a little bit different than the expectation.
	Because like you don't have to have sex if you don't want to have sex.
	I think it's specific if it's like, I am directly refusing to have sex with you because I'm trying to get something.
	Then you're using it as like a resource, and then that's a little bit like, okay, well, that's fucked up.
	Whoever does that is fucked up in the head.
	That's absolutely right.
	I think that's just a toxic relationship, but I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, I would hope if you entered marriage that there would be plenty of making love and intimacy.
	Bold statement, man.
	I don't know.
	What, making love?
	I'm joking.
	Okay.
	If your wife withheld sex from you, would you consider that sexual abuse?
	My wife would definitely not be withholding sex from me.
	There's no concern in that regard.
	Says the virgin.
	Sheesh.
	Yeah, she's the virgin.
	Of course.
	My apologies.
	How holy?
	Are you just dapping you up?
	Oh, that's awesome.
	Cuba.
	We need you.
	That felt like that longer.
	No, no, no.
	But yeah, it just sounds like a toxic relationship, honestly.
	I think we can all agree on that.
	What's the difference between a toxic relationship and an abusive relationship?
	That's a good point.
	Explain the context.
	Like a toxic relationship.
	Like, oh my God, this is such a toxic relationship.
	He cheated on me and did this and that.
	That's abusive.
	So Chris Brown, Rihanna, abusive.
	Probably, right?
	Abusive.
	That's where the straight up is possible.
	Emotional abuse is real abuse.
	And psychological abuse is real abuse.
	Absolutely.
	You think toxic relationship does mean abuse?
	Oh, well, yeah.
	I think toxic's just a way to sugarcoat being in an abusive relationship.
	Like, oh, we can get toxic.
	It's probably, oh, we can be abusive towards each other.
	I think for me, the distinction between toxic and abusive would be if toxic is like, it takes two to tango.
	I feel like two people can be toxic.
	It's you're playing mind games, you're playing mind games, and we're fucking getting nowhere.
	I think abuse is when one person holds the financial privilege, that whatever is withholding resources is cutting this one person off from all of their people, but they're allowed to see their friends, things like that, where it's very unequal.
	I think that that is more abuse.
	There's definitely levels too toxic relationships.
	And like, I think generally toxic relationships are abusive though.
	Unless you're calling your partner toxic for like going through your phone.
	That's not, I mean, it's, I guess, toxic behavior, but that's not like abusive.
	If that's the only toxic behavior, then like it's probably not abusive.
	You know, there's also like a difference between enmeshment, attachment, and love.
	So, yeah.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	I also think abuse is like a continuous beatdown.
	Whereas like toxic, it could be like a one-time thing that was just not acceptable.
	Like that was a toxic thing you did.
	Or different.
	Things that they're doing that are toxic.
	But abuse is like the same thing, continuously beating down on someone in a certain way, whatever that may be.
	I think abuse can look different in many ways, though still, like you know, you can be emotionally abusive one day and then physically abusive the next and then like not at all to get her back.
	You know abuse goes in cycles.
	Like there's literal cycles of abuse yeah, but you're doing the same.
	Like you're doing the same thing of abuse.
	Like for it to be abusive like multiple times, I feel like so even one time is enough to be abusive.
	Like if you get hit one time, that's abusive yeah, I think.
	Yeah, like anything physical.
	Like what's the thread then that caught?
	Like ties all of that together?
	Then like what is the component of the action that makes it abusive or toxic in the first place?
	Like if you really think about it, if you want to like boil it down or distill it down to like its elements, it's really about power.
	Like I have power over you.
	How do you want to give it perceived power?
	It's a perceived element of control over aspects of pillars that dictate your survival, your ability to survive and thrive as a, as a human yeah, and like as a society, you know who, like who has the power.
	Yeah, I don't think anybody, nobody is out here like saying, go abuse that's yeah, nobody in their right mind would think.
	But you know we do, we do like obviously thinking about in terms of like, our discussion that we've been having about spreadsheets, about like misogyny and stuff like that.
	You know you think about in terms of like who has the power in relationships.
	Historically, you know, I would say there's like men have a certain amount of power.
	Women have a certain amount of power, but like legal like, you know yeah, power like as a citizen of like your nation or whatever, men have typically had more power.
	To be honest, i've always looked up to men to like kind of lead me and I don't know if that's just how I was raised in the family, like the household I was raised, but I would much rather trust a man and I don't mean that saying uh, women are incompetent, you know, like I, I believe women just want a man.
	Yeah no, but truly um, I don't want to be a boss and that's and that's my own yeah, that's my own thing.
	I'm not saying other people need to feel that way but um, absolutely I look up to men, historically and currently, to kind of be a trailblazer and lead the way, because i'm I'm a female and I sit in my female feminine pretty well.
	I want to be soft.
	I want to let them kind of deal with discerning things and I can kind of trust, be trusting and let my guard down.
	Tell them we're going to do a react.
	We're going to do a react.
	That's a red flag for me.
	Leftover.
	Taking food on your first date.
	On your first date with someone, leave the food.
	Leave the food.
	I have to agree.
	All right.
	But who wanted to take the food?
	You or her?
	We both didn't want it to go to waste.
	So I was like, do you want it?
	And she was like, no.
	And I was like, all right, I guess I'll take it.
	So I took it.
	There were two separate packages.
	Lauren, can you tell us why taking the food is an ick.
	It has something to do for me, like financially.
	I think that leftovers, when you take leftovers, it's when you're like in a relationship.
	As a first date, you just eat whatever you want.
	And if there's leftovers, you can leave them there and then you can go your separate ways.
	That's just wasteful, dude.
	Why are we wasting food?
	So, for sure, everyone's a reaction.
	Well, I think just show hands.
	Does everyone here think that that's ridiculous?
	I think it's rather pedantic.
	It's so ridiculous.
	Okay, let's just maybe do give us like top three icks.
	Go around the side of sound people.
	Top three icks?
	Closed-mindedness.
	God, what else?
	I think lack of effort and the unwillingness to improve as a human being.
	Fuck.
	Sorry, those are fucking.
	No, those are good.
	I don't know.
	Bad hygiene.
	Absolutely.
	Sorry.
	I can't do that.
	Some of that doesn't work out.
	I don't know.
	Look lazy.
	Look lazy.
	Let's do this.
	Let's do this.
	Look lazy.
	Instead of general icks, starting back with you, like your most petty itch.
	Petty.
	Like, just the smallest little thing that, you know, bothers you.
	I don't like when a man has nicer hair than I do.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	So real.
	Dude, because I'm like, I know this myself.
	And their eyelashes.
	They're superior.
	Yeah.
	There's some guys where I'm like, damn, you know, if you cut your hair a little bit, I just need mine longer.
	I just need mine prettier.
	You can have your pretty hair, but I need mine to look a little bit nicer.
	I think that's probably my pettiest one.
	This is the first thing that comes to mind.
	Bad teeth.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	I wore braces.
	I wear my retainer every night.
	Flossing and everything.
	Yeah.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	No shows.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	And I like, it was like high school, but like, I totally dumped a guy because his teeth were yellow and he had braces and I couldn't do it.
	That's real ick.
	It turns out.
	Yeah, dude.
	My number one ick or my number one petty ick is no car.
	You gotta have a car.
	You gotta pull up with a vehicle.
	You gotta be able to take me places.
	I have a car.
	I have a nice car.
	I'm zipping around Southern California doing everything on my own.
	Pay my own bills, have my own apartment.
	I got my own shit completely on lock.
	If you're, as a man, you don't even have a vehicle?
	No.
	That's valid.
	That's about it.
	I have a few.
	Nail biting, chewing with your mouth open is disgusting.
	That's fair.
	Yeah, teeth is one of mine too.
	Because like, yeah, yeah.
	You know, I can't do it.
	Honestly, if I see like yellow or like crooked teeth, unless it's like a cute straight gap, you know what I mean?
	It's funny because your teeth are a little blue.
	I love it.
	I know it's from the ring pop.
	Yeah.
	I ate a ring pop, so.
	They look white, though, on the camera.
	And they're white enough to be stained.
	There you go.
	Blue instead of not.
	Just saying, I've like, my dentist told me I have the whitest, white, natural teeth.
	So like.
	There's like colors and stains because I've gotten chips fixed.
	And he used literally bleach white, which is the whitest white.
	So I take good care of my teeth.
	And I think it's like it's nasty if guys don't.
	And if they chew with their mouth open, I can't fucking do it.
	Like, I will literally be like, leave.
	Like, don't.
	What about guys with grills?
	Like, mouth jewelry?
	That's a little different.
	I've never like been with a guy with a grill, but I wouldn't oppose someone because they have a grill.
	Like, I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't reject someone because they have a grill.
	I would.
	Grills aren't permanent.
	There's some permanent grills.
	There's some permanent.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You can't, some can't.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	That's your pettiest ick.
	I don't know how petty this is, but I would say someone who is close-minded and doesn't have like solid plans for their future.
	Yeah.
	You don't have to have everything locked in right now, but you should have a path to get there, which is already like you're working on it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Totally agree.
	I was going to say obnoxious chewing.
	Or loud breathers.
	Loud breathers?
	What's kids?
	Oh, God.
	Like, one of those dogs that need it.
	The inbred dogs.
	All the time.
	Yeah, dude, I can't.
	Sometimes we just be stuffy.
	No, he's temporarily, but like all the time.
	All the time.
	I want to hear yours.
	So many.
	Oof.
	Probably a silent stoner stare after I say something really, really important.
	That's fair.
	Like offering to do something for them and then just get a what?
	What?
	Yeah, dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and like, what?
	Okay, no problem.
	Yeah.
	I would say someone who doesn't listen, you're trying to have a conversation, they're not really taking it in what you're trying to say, and they just want to go in circles and circles and circles and have arguments and debates over things that just don't make sense.
	That, I would say, you know, can be a little bit problematic in general.
	You're not his wife.
	You're not his wife.
	I think that's what I'm doing.
	I never said anyone.
	I was just making, you know.
	All right.
	How you doing, Brian?
	I'm back.
	I'm doing good.
	I'm doing good.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, the Spotify mesh.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank you again to Spotify.
	They sent me a little gift bag, a little award.
	So shout out Spotify.
	Thank you guys.
	It's always nice when they do that.
	Like YouTube does that with the plaques and stuff.
	And I don't know, Twitch.
	i don't know if twitch does that but okay um we're gonna get into damn we had a lot of reacts we had to do um we're gonna do We're going to do some of the show notes, actually.
	So going to you.
	All right.
	There's a lot of notes.
	I'm going to try to blast through these.
	Yeah, I did.
	I've got a lot.
	Okay, Lexi.
	This is a doozy, Lexi.
	A lot of your stuff here.
	A lot of interesting stuff.
	I thought they were chill.
	Let's see.
	Okay, we'll start with your perhaps where we might disagree.
	And then you have some interesting dating anecdotes.
	So, oh, we also.
	Oh, we do have your viral video that we might.
	Oh, boy.
	All right.
	Yeah, I knew that was coming.
	Okay.
	Why the founder?
	So you say, you write, men want equality too, i.e., Brian says how women should be in their feminine and be submissive, but then want us to also be included in the draft.
	Yep.
	And don't think men have to pay on a first date.
	So why are women being critiqued for our requirements when y'all have very similar ones?
	Yes.
	I'm happy to dive in, unless I think it'd be fair for you to elaborate a little bit.
	No, I think that summed it up.
	You could google on it.
	Okay, well, we covered a lot.
	Let me be more direct.
	Elaborate a little bit.
	Okay.
	I just feel like, yeah, like, I don't, okay, yeah, men and women are not equal just in the nature of being a man and being a woman.
	And I don't think that's necessarily the worst thing.
	And yeah, and I just think that's just the nature.
	And I don't think it'll ever be 100% equal.
	And like, I think men also want equality in the way that women want equality too.
	It's just a different kind of equality that you guys want versus what we want.
	Right.
	I mean, you did also write here that you have this hot take, which you just presented, that it's okay for some things to be unequal.
	Yeah.
	That's just the nature.
	Like, how so?
	Like, I just think traditionally, like, I do agree with like everything you're saying, how like men, like, men are disadvantaged in a way with women in the past and now in some sense.
	And women are also similarly disadvantaged in other ways.
	And I just don't, I think there's disadvantages and there's advantages.
	And I think just you have to just roll with punches.
	Like, I don't know.
	I just.
	That's life.
	Yeah, that's life.
	Like, God forbid.
	I think traditionally, like, I think the way the world runs right now is fine.
	And it's, it's fine.
	You think the way the world runs right now is fine?
	Like, yeah, it's like, really.
	And, like, traditionally, like, I just think like are you talking about dating or like traditional gender roles?
	Society.
	No, like, traditional gender roles and like the way that like the roles that men play and the roles that women play.
	Like, I think that's fine.
	And I think we should just like step into our role and just embrace it.
	Hold on.
	Like, just embrace it.
	Like, I don't think it's a bad thing for men to, you know, like be dominant and provide and protect and women to be symbolists.
	Like, I don't think that's a problem at all.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't disagree with you at all.
	I think one of my criticisms, though, and you might agree with me on this, and this would go both ways, right?
	So it would go: if men are like complete D-Gen, they're not traditional, then it's unfair for them to expect a woman who's traditional.
	Absolutely.
	Likewise, though, if the woman's not traditional, then I don't think it's fair for her to expect traditional.
	Now, sort of alluding to something she brought up previously.
	Oh, also, we need to, we got to bring up the table or whatever the super chatter asked for, but you said that things are not black and white, that there's nuance to things.
	So when it comes to being traditional, and this is something I've kind of grappled with, I don't think it's a hundred per like, you know, you're a hundred percent it or you're 100% not.
	I think to some degree, there's a scale to being traditional.
	Like, for example, if two people, the both the man and the woman, because traditionally, people remained virgins until marriage for both the man and the woman.
	Now, do I think that a man and a woman who are both not virgins, can they engage in a traditional dynamic?
	Yes, but they're not virgins.
	So does that, do we just immediately exclude them from the category of being traditional?
	I don't think so.
	So I do think there's a bit of a scale to it.
	But I do think once you start going far enough outside of traditional into modernity, then it's like in general, I don't know if it's, it's hard because it is a bit of a scale, right?
	You could be at 10%, 20%, 30%, 50%.
	I don't know if I could properly articulate each exact step of the traditional, non-traditional scale.
	But it seems like if we're talking about traditional gender roles, something that I see a lot.
	And again, I think it can go both ways.
	I think that men can want a woman to be like super trad and they're not really trad and they don't want to be a provider, protector, blah, all this stuff, right?
	But I think I see a little bit more of this happening.
	I see women who are just, it's not even that they're trying to LARP or even pretend that they're traditional.
	I see like women who are like completely owning the fact that they're modern women, that they're liberal, that they're feminist.
	And yet on a individual level, they still are holding men.
	They want men to be trad.
	Like, okay, I'm a feminist woman, 50-50, or well, not 50-50, but well, no, yes, 50-50, or I want equality, blah, blah, blah.
	But men should pay for first aids.
	Men should be providers.
	Men should be protectors.
	Men should be leaders.
	Men should take all the initiative.
	I think that's probably one of the bigger dynamics, I guess you could say, is that, sure, okay, a girl goes 50-50 on a first date, maybe.
	But like all the other steps to getting there, women do sort of enjoy this privilege of being the pursued.
	And so I think if you're like a true feminist equality woman, like you should try to participate more fully in initiating.
	So that might be like you go up to the guy, you approach the guy, you ask for the number, you plan the first date, you know, do all those typical things that men typically and traditionally did.
	Yeah.
	So things can be unequal, but I do think that there is an application where it's like, okay, women, like for example, right?
	I do research typically a little bit on, I'm not like doing background checks, but I'll look at your social media, I'll look at your Instagrams.
	Can I ask you a question?
	If you're dating a guy and he said, hey, I'm a little bit uncomfortable with some of your revealing photos on Instagram.
	Would you defer to him on that?
	Well, that's happened.
	It's happened, but what's your position on that?
	I think if he's uncomfortable with it, that's fine.
	I'll take it down.
	I mean, I don't care.
	We've had this discussion.
	But I think it's like, it has to come with a level of respect.
	Like, like you were saying, like, you need to be putting in your work too.
	Like, if you don't like that I'm posting a bikini pic as a college-aged girl, like, I don't want you posting a shirtless pic as a college-aged boy.
	And he, if you have, like, my ex, this is, this literally happened to me.
	I'm posting a gym pic, but when he posts a gym pick, it's okay.
	But when I do, it's not.
	That's not right.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, I think, like, I'm not, I'm not, like, doing OnlyFans out here.
	Like, it's not like, this isn't that easy.
	Yeah, I understand that there's degrees and intensities and severities to these sorts of things.
	I don't know if I don't know if it's a total equivalent of guy post-gym pick versus girl post-gym pick.
	I think there is a certain nature of photos that women will take, which will tend to either emphasize the ass or the breasts, which there is a sexualization component.
	Whereas, like, I don't know if that same level is occurring when like a man is doing like a double bicep pose.
	That almost seems doing something.
	He is doing something.
	Yeah.
	That seems like a woman.
	Talking about.
	Oh, it's fine, but I do.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it's, I don't know if we can totally look at it as 100% equal when a woman posts a pick versus when a man posts a pick.
	And also, I think there's a big difference.
	Do you get DMs on your Instagram?
	Like guys sliding into your DMs?
	Yes.
	How often do you slide into guys' DMs?
	Often.
	Like, I can't even lie.
	I can't even lie.
	I asked out my ex.
	Like, I pursued him.
	Like, I don't, I, I really don't care about it in that sense.
	But I think, like, if you want, like, if you don't feel comfortable like doing that, then like you have to give something to.
	Like, I'm very comfortable doing that.
	I don't care.
	Do you slide into DMs as frequently as your DMs are slid into?
	No.
	Like, how many, would you say you get one DM per day, more than a few?
	Yeah, more, a couple.
	A couple DMs per day, right?
	Yeah.
	And you have like a couple thousand followers on Instagram or okay.
	So I think there's a different, there's a bit of a difference here, though, in just practically speaking, and sort of the experience that men and women are going to uniquely have on social media.
	So, and also it's just, it's a little, there's a couple different angles here.
	So I'm trying to parse the best approach for this conversation.
	But I think when a woman, when a woman is posting on social media, that that's you advertising.
	Yes.
	You're advertising.
	Like women typically generally, I get, I'm not saying that it never happens, but women either generally don't or to a far lesser degree are going to slide into a guy's DMs.
	They don't.
	But what you'll do as a woman, you'll post a story or you'll post a photo to sort of induce men into doing that.
	So it's kind of like, and to bring it back to like a real life IRL dynamic, because Instagram's online, if you're IRL, women typically like won't approach a guy, but they'll dress really nice and dress attractively and maybe they might put themselves like in proximity to a guy or they might look at him.
	Look, sometimes women will do, will approach in person.
	So I think the roles between men and women are kind of different and asymmetrical.
	I approach guys IRL.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but it is a dispersion.
	There's not a dispute that women do approach men IRL.
	The dispute is that there's a mismatch in the frequency that this happens.
	So we're not having a conversation about the exception to the rule.
	We're talking about generally the practice of what's happening.
	And so women, you won't go up to a guy, but you'll put yourself in a position to be approached.
	So I guess almost relating this a little bit to, let me ask you this.
	You're dating a guy, you really like him, he's your boyfriend, and he's like, hey, look, I don't know if you do this, but then I don't know, you're young.
	A lot of young people go out.
	Do you go out to bars and clubs?
	Yeah.
	Your boyfriend's like, hey, look.
	And let's say he's kind of, he prefers kind of just staying at home, whatever.
	If your boyfriend says, hey, look, we're serious now.
	I don't want you to go into bars and clubs anymore.
	What's your response?
	I think if he is a good and loyal man and isn't going either, he's not.
	He doesn't.
	He's not going to club bars and clubs?
	No, he doesn't go to it.
	I don't need to go.
	Okay, so you'll stop.
	Even if you want to.
	Yeah.
	Or if I'm going to go, I'll bring him.
	He doesn't want to go, but he's like, nah, I don't want you to go.
	I think unless it's like a birthday or like an event.
	Like, I don't need to go just like for fun on the weekend.
	Like, I'm okay with that.
	Like, I think for my husband, I'm not gonna, I don't need to do that.
	Yeah, for your husband, right?
	Yeah, I don't need to do that.
	That's fine.
	We can stay in every day.
	I don't think right.
	Even in these environments, though, perhaps one of the reasons why men are not quite like there's an asymmetry that exists.
	If I, or even this strapping young gentleman over here, uh, who's he's a good-looking guy.
	You're a male model, by the way.
	He's a male model.
	Um, he goes to the bar.
	You know, I actually looked up to Brian when I was a little kid.
	I used to watch whatever videos.
	Oh, the prank videos.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It was pretty cool.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	So, and look, I'm not saying it never happens, but like in terms of the proportion of it happening, like, have you been to a bar club, nightclub?
	Yeah, yeah, of course.
	Now, when you go, and like, let's just say you're standing at the bar with a drink, like, do you get approached?
	Like, do women come up to you frequently?
	Now, to be fair, he's a good-looking guy, so I don't know.
	But tell us the truth.
	Honestly, yeah, I mean, it happens, but it's not, it's definitely not as frequent.
	Like, for sure.
	Have you ever been out to a bar or club and you didn't get approached the entire night?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it does happen, but it's much more rare.
	Now, I would say for the average guy, though, he goes to a bar or nightclub.
	I go to a bar nightclub.
	No women are coming in to talk to me.
	And look, I'm not, I'm not, oh my God, I'm not crying about it.
	I don't care.
	I just accept reality for it is the red pill.
	I'm not upset.
	I just say it is what it is.
	Women don't really be approaching men that much unless you're like fucking giga chat, whatever.
	Yeah.
	Fine, really good-looking dude.
	And so I think that that's one of the reasons why, whereas a woman, whether she's average-looking, cute, attractive, beautiful, whatever, whatever, she's going to get approached at a bar or nightclub once, twice, three times, maybe fucking 10 times.
	Not always.
	Like, I mean, when you go out, how often would you, and I feel like, you know, to be fair, you know, with social media and dating apps, I do think men, like I'm talking back in the early 2010s, 2000s, before that, the 90s, like men would, that was your only way to meet a woman was you had to meet them somehow.
	You had to approach them.
	Yeah.
	There wasn't dating apps and, you know, really.
	But when you go out, how often would you say you like will get approached by guys?
	Like most of the times I go out, I will get approached, but not all the time.
	Like I'm in Boston and the culture in Boston, men don't confront women like at all.
	Like you got to make the move in Boston.
	I know in other cities like that's not the case, but like in my personal experience, like some of my friends, like they could be the hottest girl at the bar and the men will not say a word.
	I do think I think it's the culture that I'm used to there.
	Yeah, I think times are changing a little bit in the sense that, you know, why get rejected at the bar if you can just like swipe on Tinder on excuse me on Tinder or whatever.
	But I do think generally speaking, this phenomenon is still the case where, you know, as a woman, you go to a bar, much more likely to be hit on, et cetera, et cetera, versus a man in these scenarios.
	And so there's like going to be a bit of a hesitation for as a man, like being cool with your girlfriend going to these environments where there is more of an expectation that she's going to like get approached and hit on, et cetera.
	So I don't know, it's kind of.
	Yeah.
	But I think that, like, yeah, no, that's fair.
	But I think like that's the nature of like how it's always been.
	Like, the man sees pretty girl at the bar.
	Man goes and says, hi, pretty girl at the bar.
	God forbid.
	Like, I don't think that's wrong.
	Okay.
	So, but you, you do think, if I recall correctly, you said you think women should be submissive?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Trying to think of an example I could give.
	Is this like the segue for the bow video, I guess?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, you could do it.
	Do it.
	But, I mean, just to reiterate, though, you said that men want equality too.
	How women should be, and they're feminine and submissive, but they also want us to be included in the draft.
	And don't think.
	So I. Just what you said, like you guys want to be, you want us to be feminine and submissive, but you want us to approach you at the bar.
	That doesn't, that's not the same.
	That doesn't add up.
	So like if you want us to like be feminine and like look pretty and like look cute at the bar and like just be like there You gotta come and say hi.
	You know what I mean?
	Like I'm not gonna go up there unless like again like you're Brad Pitt like you know like okay fine.
	Sure.
	I mean you know like I agree that if a woman adheres to being traditional then yes absolutely like the man should pay the man should lead the man should take initiative and that's that's the role that I want in a relationship.
	However, I do think that there is quite a bit of it seems to me, like you have and there's been a bunch of viral videos on this you have really liberal women.
	You have feminist women who still want men to do the traditional stuff.
	Yeah, that's where that's my qualm, and I think one of my other qualms is.
	That that I've brought up is, I think I think it's for with the paying for first dates.
	Just to be specific, I think if the woman is genuinely dating you and she's not she's being intentional in how she's moving, then I think paying for the first date makes sense.
	But then men are faced with this scenario and look, to be fair, I think it's a you're on any given date.
	The likelihood that it's a foodie call is on.
	It's less likely than more likely to be the case.
	It is a phenomenon that happens, though that shouldn't be completely discounted, so that you have the foodie calls where these women are just going.
	It's not even just for the food, but I think sometimes women will go on a date not just for the free meal, but also I don't think they go into it with like the right intentions and they're just kind of like huh, i'm not that interested.
	But I don't know.
	It seems like sometimes y'all just do it for the sake of it, just to be entertained for a few hours, not just for the lore.
	Yeah, you're just like, all right whatever, i'll have the experience.
	It's not necessarily always about the oh the, i'm saving 20 bucks on a meal.
	It's like the i'm just gonna go for the experience versus intentionally having an interest in this person.
	So there is that.
	But then there's the other component.
	Even if she is like genuinely trying to meet somebody although perhaps these two things are conflicting, I do think a lot of times as a guy, you're encountering women who are dealing with multiple men who are, who got rosters, who are going on five dates in a week.
	And my thought process is, if, if you're going on a date after this date, I feel that's disrespectful.
	Like okay, i'm your 5 p.m time slot, then you got a 7 p.m.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	That feels a bit disrespectful to me.
	I'm not saying all women move like that, but that is a consideration.
	And then, in addition to that, even if it's not like the same day she's going on a date, there's definitely like perhaps to a lesser degree, there's going to be women who are just five dates in a week, six dates in a week.
	And it's like, oh, you got it, I'm taking on a Wednesday, and you got Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday locked up.
	And they're, yeah.
	And I'm like, I don't really like to me, I'm not interested in a woman like that to begin with.
	Like, I want a woman who's properly single and there's not other dudes in the picture.
	So I don't think it's a fair shake for men just looking at it from a bird's eye view.
	I know the men probably aren't going to be like, no, that she's going on this many dates, but I'm just like examining it from like a pulled back angle, bird's eye view, looking down and like, hmm, if it's the case that a woman who maybe she might be trad in a relationship, but she's like stacking dates and going on a bunch of dates, I don't really think the guy should pay for the date.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's fair.
	I mean, but I think also like as a girl, no, go ahead.
	I just think also like as a girl, like the man could also be doing that and going on a bunch of dates and entertaining a lot of women.
	Then the girl shouldn't go on the date.
	Like I wouldn't entertain a man that I thought was doing the same thing.
	Like I think that's fair and it goes both ways.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	And I think that's fine.
	And I, you know, some people like to say, you know, with the body count conversation, like I don't have a double standard on this.
	If a woman doesn't want to date a guy who is promiscuous, who has a high body count, totally fine.
	Totally fair.
	I agree.
	I think that's good.
	Women should be discerning.
	Yeah.
	Don't deal with fuckboys.
	But I don't know.
	So when it comes to paying for the date, I don't know.
	I think if well, okay, hold on.
	Let me approach it from this angle too.
	If you want to get the girl, the optimum move is to pay for the date.
	Like that, if that's your goal to get the girl, probably the best move on the chessboard, you should pay for the date.
	But like if I'm just having like a conversation about what's fair, what's not fair without any actual practical application to dating, then yeah, it's kind of like bullshit that men are paying for dates when these women are like not really adhering to any traditional gender rules themselves and just like, I don't know.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's not fair if a man in that case, sorry, I know he wants to go.
	But yeah, I agree that wouldn't be fair.
	But I think, yeah, I mean, that's just, that's just how it is.
	That's how it should be.
	Like, I don't know.
	I just think, like, also, like, you shouldn't just be going on dates with just anybody.
	Like, you should kind of know where their heads are at before.
	Like, I wouldn't just go on a date with a man that slid into my DMs.
	Like, he's not my DM.
	I'm be like, okay, I don't know you.
	Like, like, men will DM me and be like, what are you doing tonight?
	I'm not seeing you.
	Not seeing you.
	Like, I don't know you.
	Like, we should have talked.
	We should know where each other's heads are at.
	Like, I should know if you're like proper single or not.
	Like, I should know that.
	And you should know that about me too.
	Like, I think that's a very fair conversation to have.
	And just, I guess, going back to your original point, you're saying, well, Brian, you think women should be drafted.
	So, like, why should you have a traditional woman or whatever?
	Yeah.
	So, I think there's two things here.
	So, I think it's a distinction between micro and macro level processes or concepts.
	So, like on the micro level, like, I can have like if we separate individual relationships from like society at large, like society-wide rules and obligations.
	Um, if I want a traditional dynamic in a one-on-one relationship, that's just a private arrangement between me and the girl I'm seeing.
	Um, and It's something that we can both want absent what is going on in society, versus if it's the case that society, like society is just going to operate on a different level.
	So, if in society we've agreed collectively as a society that we're going to uphold equality between the sexes as some sort of virtue or pillar, then I don't think it's inconsistent for me to say, well, in my private life, because I don't really have any influence or say on like society at large, I don't get to dictate.
	You know, I mean, I have one vote out of like over 300 million other people in this country, but I don't really get to dictate how society is.
	And so, because society operates on a different level, I think that it is coherent and makes sense for, okay, well, like, let's say society is super degenerate, but I want something more traditional, and the girl who I'm interested in also wants something more traditional.
	Well, that's fine.
	But then, if I see that society is in, like, I'm trying to think of a good example.
	How about this?
	Are you pro-choice or pro-life?
	Pro-choice.
	Pro-choice.
	Okay.
	So, me personally, but I agree that the easiest way I could frame it.
	Well, I mean, we even talked about war, right?
	Like, for example, we both agree that war is bad.
	War should never happen.
	There should never be war.
	And it'd be, wouldn't it be wonderful if all the money that we spend on a standing army could be redirected to other things, right?
	That would be wonderful, but we live in reality.
	And in reality, we have to realize that there are hostile, belligerent nations, and thus we need a military to potentially defend ourselves and from a potential invasion or whatever it is.
	We protect our whatever it is, right?
	And so, yes, if the world was like this, then it could be like that.
	I guess with the reason I ask about abortion, so my perspective on abortion is as follows: I think abortion is clearly wrong.
	Now, given that there are abortion rights in certain states, women do have access to abortions.
	I think that there should then be some corresponding right for men to escape from to have their own form of reproductive rights.
	So, in a state where, so even if my position typically would be, hey, just abortion bad, shouldn't be abortion, in states where there are abortions, my position as a men's advocate is men should have reproductive rights, men should not have to pay child support in states where women have the right to abortion.
	Okay, I mean, they can willingly, voluntarily do it, but in a state where a woman can kill her child, murder her child, men should have the right to, to put it bluntly, abandon their child.
	Well, they're going to do that anyways, if they want to.
	Well, the difference is, though, is that the state can compel a man to pay for child support regardless of whether he wants to or not.
	And so, in this case, I just simply think that in a state where abortion is legal, then under that framework, even if I disagree with the framework, I think, okay, well, how can we give men rights in this circumstance?
	How can we create some sort of equality under the system?
	Men should have a method to extract themselves from parental responsibility and financial responsibility.
	What if the woman wants to have a kid but doesn't want to take care of it and chooses to abandon their own kid?
	But they are took false courage.
	Well, yeah, I know, but like, well, yeah.
	But I'm saying, like, what if they don't believe in abortion for themselves?
	Well, women always have an exit.
	So if a woman gets pregnant, like, let's, I don't know, whether the man wants the kid or not is kind of irrelevant.
	So the woman, women can always escape responsibility as it relates to children.
	So let's say you're right.
	She doesn't want to get the abortion, though.
	She doesn't, even if she's in a state where abortion is allowed.
	She can go to shortly after the birth.
	She can go to a fire station.
	No questions asked.
	Surrender the child to the people at the fire station.
	And her responsibilities are completely relinquished.
	Completely relinquished.
	So women do have an escape.
	Whereas men say all the same reasons that you might give for why abortion should be allowed, at least like the, you know, like, oh, she's not ready.
	She's not financially ready.
	She just doesn't want to have a kid, which I'm sure you would agree.
	These are all, at least from your perspective, these are valid reasons for abortion.
	Men don't have an escape.
	What if the man says, well, hold on, I'm not financially ready to have a kid.
	What if I, or I just don't want to be a father?
	It was a one-night stand.
	I'm in SIGEP and fucking, I knocked up some chicken alpha fee and it was a one-night stand.
	I'm in college.
	I want to focus on college.
	If I have to, you know, support a kid, I'm going to be screwed.
	I have a question.
	Okay.
	If a guy is in that financial situation, why is he having sex?
	If a woman is in that financial situation.
	If a man is in that financial situation, why is he having sex?
	The same exact.
	You're going to have to apply that logic to the women going.
	As a woman, I wouldn't be having sex if I wasn't able to take care of a kid.
	That's just my personal belief.
	You don't think women who are not financially capable of having a child are engaging in sex?
	I can't speak on other women.
	I know that they're doing it.
	Well, there's like 15-year-olds that have sex with each other.
	Yeah, people are having sex.
	I would say you shouldn't have sex.
	That's my personal moral point.
	You shouldn't have sex if you can't take care of a child.
	Well, you should only have sex with one person and you live happily ever after.
	And that's not reality.
	Sometimes that gets messed up, but you know.
	Right, that should.
	Well, okay, but for a man and a woman, you shouldn't be having sex if you cannot financially take care of a child.
	That's adulting 101 or whatever it was you said.
	Sure.
	I suppose, I guess.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	I just want to touch on really quick.
	You said it's not reality that two people stay together forever.
	I just want to.
	Did I say that?
	I overheard you.
	Yeah.
	I don't remember saying that.
	I do not believe in divorce.
	So I think if you get married and you're staying together, you're staying together.
	So you think it's a possibility for sure?
	It's what?
	Where two people just meet and they're soulmates?
	What?
	I think he's trying to make the moves.
	I'm definitely not racing.
	Wait.
	Hey, guys, I think we gotta go.
	I think we're interrupting.
	Do you believe in true love?
	I don't know.
	Have you ever looked at Brian's piercing blue eyes?
	Look at them.
	What about my comment?
	Yeah, someone was like, wow, I get lost in them.
	Yeah.
	He has a lot of blue eyes.
	Yeah, all the guys have blue eyes.
	I don't know the relevance of all this, but I mean, hell yeah.
	Well, but let's see.
	We were, I'm going to.
	Brian, I have a question for you.
	Because of your pro-life view.
	What's your question?
	Do you think people who get sexually assaulted and impregnated by that should have the choice?
	I mean, they're looking abortion is not typically my primary focus of argumentation, to be honest.
	Okay.
	But I mean, look, hmm.
	I mean, it is an interesting one.
	If I can be totally honest, I haven't really come to a determination on that.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what's right.
	So ultimately, all the same logical arguments, though, that would apply in any other situation would also apply in a situation where, I mean, this is obviously a really tragic situation where not only is a woman raped, but she ends up pregnant because of the, it's absolutely tragic situation.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, in terms of the defense of the pro-life position, I don't know if the arguments are completely diminished or defeated by the fact that a woman was quite tragically essayed.
	So I don't know.
	My question back to you, though, would be: if we were to make some sort of trade-off, if we were to, if conservatives and liberals were to come together and say, you know what, look, let's put this abortion thing to rest.
	By the way, I believe most conservatives are totally fine with like life abortion in the instance of life of the mother and I believe maybe incest.
	I don't know.
	In any case, let's say conservatives say, you know what?
	We're going to promise and guarantee abortion rights under these circumstances.
	Rape, life of the mother, incest, I guess, sexual abuse, whatever.
	However, women who just had consensual sex, but it was an unintended pregnancy, and they're just, they don't want the kid, they're not ready, they're not financially ready, that's not a good enough reason.
	Do you do the trade?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I guess I have to think on that a little bit because I do believe I'm pro-choice.
	I think, you know, I mean, I had an ectopic pregnancy and that was like an abortion.
	And I had to get in a medical abortion because it put my life in danger.
	So I think there should be very like strict, I mean, not strict, but like there, as long as the mothers whose life is being put in danger are actually considered.
	And like, I've seen stories where doctors.
	Priority granted that life of well, I know, I know you did, but just let me finish.
	I've seen stories where people who have had ectopic pregnancies don't receive the medical care that they need because of the law being so strict and them being afraid of losing their license.
	So I guess as long as doctors were still performing.
	Okay, but granting in a hypothetical scenario that yes, these are life of the mother and there's not like red tape around that or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Do you do the trade?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I think maybe as long as you know we're still granted birth control access and maybe condoms become free.
	And, you know, I don't know about free.
	I mean, why not?
	That's like pride, like free birth control, free condoms.
	Are they not birth control?
	No, I've seen that.
	Some birth controls are contraceptive.
	No, I'm hold on.
	Yes, of course, condoms are.
	I think he's just arguing the free part.
	I'm just not sure if they should be free.
	Yeah.
	I misunderstood.
	Sorry.
	I mean, there are some arguments that can be made that like certain policies, like if you spend $5 million in a state to provide free condoms, does this like the trickle-down effects of this?
	Does this prevent like $20 million of like, I don't know, something else?
	I don't know if the example, huh?
	Welfare?
	Yeah, it could be.
	Or, you know, if the benefits of a program like that, you know, it actually pays for itself.
	If the economics balance out.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If the economics balance out, then I'm probably fine with it.
	But like, just as a general knee-jerk reaction, I don't know if the government needs to be, like, the taxpayer needs to be paying for fucking free condoms.
	But, okay, well, I just think maybe.
	I guess I'm probably fine with it.
	I feel like it's pretty smart.
	Yeah, right?
	I mean, I don't know really how I don't.
	Usually I expect the guy to buy the condoms.
	Otherwise, I won't have sex with them.
	But like, I mean, condoms are also really, they're pretty cheap.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't ever like to avoid abortions.
	Like, okay.
	Yeah.
	Like, if you can.
	Fair enough.
	I don't, I don't think we should force birth control on women.
	It affects some women's bodies wrong.
	Let's do the table thing, Nick.
	Do you want to pull that up?
	I guess I just don't know.
	Yeah, yeah, switch it to your left a little bit.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	One of the super chatters said to pull it up, so we're going to pull it up.
	What the hell?
	Oh.
	Yeah, that's bad.
	So this is the Kinsey thing.
	This is the thing I was kind of critiquing earlier, I guess.
	Yeah, no, that is examples of multiple orgasms.
	Yeah, that's kind of, I feel gross even looking at this.
	Yeah, no, that's disgusting.
	How did they document that?
	That's okay.
	That's real?
	It's not like bullfake or whatever.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	Yeah, they didn't teach that in like last year.
	Oh, numbers on a table.
	That was traumatizing.
	Yeah, I don't know about that one.
	All right.
	Bose frog, it's below the threshold, but thank you for your message, man.
	If you want to resubmit it above the threshold, we'd be happy to read it.
	Okay, we're going to get back into the notes.
	No, Lexi, your ex of 3.5 years was having sex with someone else on spring break a week after seeing you.
	Yep.
	Shut up.
	Good times.
	He brutally lied to you about it.
	Also, your ex of 3.5 years writing you a letter after this?
	Like a written hand.
	Yep.
	Handwritten.
	Yep.
	And then you wrote a how long?
	12 pages.
	Oh, girl.
	12-page letter.
	His was four.
	His was four.
	Wait, was it?
	Did you first like write it on a computer or like your phone?
	Yes.
	And then I transferred it.
	This was like the most disagreeing thing ever.
	Do you still have it on your phone?
	The note?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I will not be sharing.
	But it is 12 pages handwritten.
	That's like, that's kind of.
	Yeah, you got to just do it.
	That's like 30 minutes.
	If you were to read it, it would take 30 minutes, right?
	Probably.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I did read it.
	Can you get it and read us the first paragraph?
	Oh, my God.
	I'll look at what the first paragraph is and then I'll decide.
	How about that?
	Yeah, Mary, you can find her.
	Reminder her.
	If you want, you can.
	Yeah, shut up.
	Okay, so.
	Yeah, that was devastating.
	I mean, we had, like, I'll also preface this, like, in the meantime.
	Like, we had a very long, substantial, like, relationship.
	Like, we were very committed to each other.
	We had no instances of disloyalty, nothing.
	So, like, him doing this was like shocking to me because I had never expected this out of him.
	Like, that was like a really difficult breakup.
	He was cheating on you.
	No, I don't think that.
	I don't.
	No, he wasn't cheating.
	Like, this was like, we had seen each other, but we were broken up at this time.
	Like, but we were still in communication.
	We were still talking.
	We were like making, like, we were trying to navigate the situation and consider potentially getting back together at some point.
	But, and also on this spring break trip, we were in the same, oh, thank you.
	This one.
	We were in the same area.
	Like, this was like, we had planned to like see each other there.
	Like, this was not just like, oh, he just went on spring break.
	No, this was like we were we planned this trip together.
	Um, anyways, let me see what I got.
	Yeah, I got a lot of random notes, dude.
	I know I'm like respecting, I'm not looking, dude.
	No, um, the kind of shit I got in there, it's like Costco.
	You said that um definitely this, you have it, yeah, okay.
	Read it.
	Um, okay, wait, I'll start though.
	The first part is just me explaining that it's gonna be long.
	So, I mean, this is boring, but you can hear it.
	Is there a put in chat GBT?
	Get the quick notes.
	Yeah, start at the part where we actually started.
	Should we start 6-7?
	The relationship is over.
	Consultation, dude.
	What am I going to do?
	He cheated on you.
	He ain't.
	Oh, I kind of.
	Why do you care?
	No, he's low-he evil as hell.
	Like, I don't want to talk about it.
	Yeah, you said that men are evil.
	No, I said men are getting more evil.
	I think, like, we'll talk about that later.
	You want to hear this or not?
	All right, go ahead.
	Well, give us the best part.
	Okay, I started.
	This is what I said, like, about the.
	I'll just tell you the part about the breakup.
	Okay.
	Well, this is okay.
	This is all the stuff before the breakup.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	Actually, this is perfect.
	Can you, facing this camera?
	Oh, no.
	They won't be able to read it, but starting at the top, can you just scroll up to show them how long it's going to be?
	Do you think that's a good thing?
	It's so far.
	Are you sure?
	It's so far away, it won't be.
	Okay, it better not be.
	Okay, this is the beginning.
	Ready?
	Yeah, get ready.
	Scroll.
	Keep going.
	No, that's it.
	Wait, you did it too fast.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm not.
	No, you're not.
	That's not bad.
	I don't even read it.
	No.
	People are going to.
	No, no, no.
	That's a CIA.
	Think that.
	Yeah, even thinking that man fast, like that's that's like that's still a lot.
	You can tell, okay?
	You can tell.
	This was probably the craziest thing I've ever done, but Mike into the mind.
	This is probably the craziest thing I've ever done.
	One paragraph, one paragraph.
	Okay, after the part about how I say it's going to be long and how I say, like, whatever, I say, um, okay, no, that's like too personal.
	I'm going to just say this part.
	Okay, I say, I want to start by telling you that I initiated a breakup because I was upset with myself for staying with you when I was really hurt and broken aside from all our fighting.
	And I knew I wasn't being a good girlfriend to you.
	I knew I couldn't be that for you until I healed myself.
	And I didn't want you to eventually resent or hate me because I was slowly starting to feel that way about myself and was losing respect for myself because of all the fighting.
	I feel like you really were just so sick of me and annoyed with me and frustrated that I couldn't hold my part in the relationship.
	I just couldn't handle those feelings and stress anymore, but I did not initiate this because I stopped loving you.
	I need you to know that.
	All I wanted was to be a better person and girlfriend and be better in a relationship with you.
	Oh my God, who the hell?
	Okay.
	Cash.
	Anyways, yeah.
	So that's that.
	That's that.
	You feel that like emotion.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Good shit.
	Yeah, so that's that.
	But yeah.
	That's that's crazy.
	Yeah.
	So I don't know.
	I'm very, did you guys like continue hooking up for a period of time after?
	No, we hooked up one time after and that was it.
	It was, it was, no, we, we, like, talked.
	Like, we were like still like in contact.
	But then after the spring break thing, that was okay.
	That was that.
	Yeah.
	That was that.
	Yeah.
	That was that.
	12-page letter.
	You know, I had to get it off my chest.
	Honestly, though, after I did it, I was fine.
	Like, I got over it.
	I got over it like very quickly after that.
	After he didn't respond.
	Did he read it?
	I have no idea.
	I haven't heard from him since, besides when he tried to steal my AC in it back.
	You could read that part too.
	I put that in the notes.
	Oh.
	He tried to steal from me.
	What?
	Yes, he tried to steal from me while I was in Europe.
	So, yeah.
	Fucker.
	Yeah, fuck her.
	Right.
	Thank you.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	He was like texting my roommates to get his stuff.
	I was like, wait, his stuff?
	No, no, no, something he gave to me.
	Okay, okay.
	I had an ex steal a sweatshirt back.
	It was kind of funny.
	He can have a sweatshirt back.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't want that.
	Yeah.
	How brutal would it be?
	So you wrote, you mailed it to him or how did no, we communicated.
	I like delivered it to him.
	Like I brought it to his house.
	You handed him the letter.
	Like, yeah, pretty much.
	I didn't look at him to do it.
	I like left it.
	No, I like left it like in his mailbox.
	Like, I left it like at his house.
	How do you know if he even got it?
	Like, it was like inside his house.
	I feel like that's inside his house.
	Damn.
	If he didn't get it, if he didn't get it and you're watching this and you didn't read it, you fucker.
	What's his name?
	Not last name, but what, Justin?
	Some white ass name.
	That's all I got in on.
	What's the first letter?
	No, that'll give it away.
	Okay, okay.
	White ass name, white ass name, white white name.
	No, okay.
	Oh, God.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	Okay, it starts with a B.
	It's an A.
	It's a D.
	I think it starts with a Z. Y'all gotta be more niche.
	Y'all gotta be more niche.
	All the G's.
	Oh, I'm not answering this.
	It's a niche white boy name.
	Wait, that's not relevant.
	Because that would.
	I almost.
	Then.
	Yeah, did he?
	Sorry.
	What if he just didn't even?
	I wonder a guy could be so petty and just be like, too long, didn't read.
	No, I've gotten that.
	That's fine.
	It was more for me.
	Like, I didn't really care if he read it or not.
	Like, I had to write down what I felt and I had to get it off my chest.
	No, we were not together at the time he did this, but like, we were in contact.
	We were on good terms.
	What did he do wrong?
	Um, okay.
	Well, he lied to me about it, and he lied to you about what?
	Wait, what did he do?
	He did what he did.
	What, what did, wait, really quick.
	What did he do?
	He had sex with another girl on the trip.
	After you broke out.
	No, no, no.
	We were on the trip.
	Like, we were, he saw me.
	No, but you guys broke up.
	Yeah, we broke up.
	You guys were separated.
	But we had a trip together.
	This is morality.
	This is morality.
	He broke up with who?
	Who broke up with him?
	No, I know I broke up with him.
	No, no, no.
	This is a morality thing.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Yeah, textbook, fine.
	Wait, why did you break up?
	Why did you break up?
	I told you, it was like fighting.
	I mean, you could see from like, I don't need to get into what we were fighting about, but like, you could tell from that, it was like very serious.
	And like, kidding.
	Was not cheating.
	You just were like, he had a low sex drive.
	No.
	And you wanted it all the time.
	Yes, that's exactly what it was.
	Yes, you bought me.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's it.
	Your appetite, your sexual appetite is too much.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's definitely it.
	Players play.
	Yeah, yeah, you see me.
	Yeah.
	No, that's not.
	I say it's the abstinent one.
	No, that's not it.
	It was just a big deal.
	Did you dump him in person?
	Of course.
	Yeah, I did.
	We cried.
	It was a thing.
	Yeah, we did.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Did he have bad form?
	What?
	Did he have bad form?
	What?
	That's a crazy thing.
	Like, yeah, what is crazy?
	Wait, no.
	It's okay.
	So.
	I'm going to leave our sex like that.
	You dumped him, though.
	Yes.
	I think.
	I think as the dumpy, the dumpy, if you're the dumpy.
	Sorry.
	The dumper doesn't get to dictate.
	Dumpies and dumpers.
	You're such a dumpy.
	The dumpy does not.
	The dumper doesn't get to, you know, hold the moral high ground when.
	Well, I guess it kind of depends a little bit on the reasons for the breakup.
	Yeah, you don't know what he was doing.
	Like, this was very valid in the breakout.
	Here's what I was about to say.
	Let's say in a scenario where it's like a breakup and there's not some crazy drama.
	It's just like, look, whatever.
	I'm kind of over it.
	You know, there's not anything toxic or there's no abuse.
	I think that the person who's doing the dumping, they can't be like, have the moral high ground on how quick the other person moves on.
	Like, I think it's fair if you're getting dumped and you're like, wow, they dumped me and then they're fucking somebody the next day.
	I feel like that's more valid.
	Yeah, yeah, totally.
	I don't know if that makes sense.
	Totally, but I think it makes sense to me.
	I get that.
	No, it does make sense.
	It does.
	But I think also, like, if you're like, there's just like a basic level of respect.
	And like, the issue was like, it was like he had done that with her.
	And then the next day, he told me they had just kissed, which lie.
	And then he was telling me, I love you, and I miss you, and I want to make sure you and your family are okay.
	And he was hugging me and touching me, and they woke up in the same bed the morning before.
	Well, I don't think that's okay.
	I don't think that's a nice thing to do.
	I think with your girlfriend of three and a half years, that's like unacceptable behavior.
	And I would have never done that.
	But you guys had broken up.
	Doesn't matter.
	He was technically broken.
	It doesn't matter.
	Don't tell me you don't tell me.
	Don't come to me and tell me that you love me then and that you care about me and my family.
	I don't think it's hurtful.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's inconsistent.
	He, like, did he see the breakup coming?
	Absolutely.
	Wait, did he want to stay with you, though?
	No.
	Oh.
	Like, he was, he was like, he, he understood.
	He didn't push back.
	Like, he understood and was okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but you initiated the breakup.
	Yeah.
	Someone had to do it.
	I don't think it's inconsistent for him to, despite him, like, perhaps this was cope, coping mechanism.
	Like, shit, my girlfriend who I love or whatever dumped me.
	Okay, well, some people deal with that in different ways.
	He was like, well, I'm going to get the best way to get over somebody is to get underneath.
	I don't agree with that logic at all.
	I think that's so messed up.
	I think it wasn't.
	I think it's wrong for okay, maybe for men, but I think that's just a disgusting behavior.
	And I think like it's wrong for the girl you're using to get over your girlfriend.
	And I think it's wrong to do to the girlfriend.
	Like, I think you're just manipulating way too many people.
	No, yeah, because then they're not.
	Not for your girlfriend.
	Look.
	Okay, but that's rude.
	I just think it's rude.
	And there's a basic level of human decency.
	I was like, disagree.
	Yes, there is.
	Disagree.
	Yeah.
	Lexi.
	Wait, what's your never mind?
	Lexi, disagree.
	Yeah.
	I think, look, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm dating some girl and she dumps me, look, I don't think my initial thing is like, necessarily within a week, like, I'm going to go try to hook up with somebody else.
	But like, I don't think she can be upset if I do.
	Like, you can't.
	Well, I guess you can be upset about it, but I didn't do anything wrong.
	I didn't do anything wrong, I guess.
	Yeah, like textbook, no.
	Morality, yes.
	No, not morally.
	Yes.
	Not morally, right?
	Yes.
	Morally, yes.
	You should have stayed.
	If it would have, then you should have stayed.
	No, I just think like, but you did it in front of my face on spring break.
	Like, you couldn't have, like, you were there with her and you leaving a bar together like a guy jealous.
	That's crazy.
	Oh, I did it after this.
	Yes, I did.
	Oh, how did you?
	You got revenge?
	I just kissed somebody at the bar after this behavior.
	That's not enough.
	You should have fucked his best friend.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying.
	You still have that.
	That's crazy.
	Period.
	All right.
	That was crazy.
	I don't know.
	Look, I just ultimately.
	I was just saying.
	I don't know.
	I just think we just thought we had more respect in our relationship.
	Wait, to do that question.
	Had he not done the whole, you know, you broke up, you broke this poor guy's heart.
	Oh, no, I didn't.
	You dumped him.
	No, I didn't.
	And then he, in his moment of need and suffering, he needed a human connection.
	He could have texted me.
	I was five minutes away.
	I was five minutes away.
	So, who cares?
	Was it a random girl?
	Yes.
	The question is.
	Yeah.
	That's a little less.
	Would you have written the 12-page thing had he not done that?
	Yes.
	You were still, you would still write.
	I wrote at the end of it, maybe we should get back together.
	Okay.
	So, so, so, yes.
	The answer is yes.
	So the answer is yes.
	Plot twist.
	Plot twist.
	Yes.
	I actually, this was actually a, um, Loki, I miss you and I know you fucked up, but I miss you.
	So yes.
	I'm a very fruitful person.
	He didn't reply.
	Yes.
	You don't.
	He did not reply.
	W.
	No, not W. That's crazy, bro.
	W for the guy.
	Don't support him.
	This is ridiculous.
	He's unemployed.
	All right.
	Wow.
	Wait, why do you want to get back with him?
	He's unemployed.
	Now he's unemployed.
	Now he's unemployed.
	Is he a student, Aruise?
	No.
	He wasn't a student.
	Not since the letter.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	He dropped out or he finished?
	He graduated.
	Okay, okay.
	When you were dating him, was he already out of school?
	No, we dated throughout college.
	Okay, so he was in college.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You guys went to the same college.
	Yeah.
	At least he was in some way.
	Wait, but I understand this thing where you broke up with him.
	That's important.
	You broke up with him and then you were like, but let's get back together.
	No, but like, I, okay, but I, not to blame him for saying no.
	Was the breakup a bluff?
	No.
	No.
	I learned.
	No, I like, I told him from the beginning, I was like, I, like, I told him from the beginning that, like, I like love you.
	Like, I said that in my letter.
	I said it to him.
	I was like, I love you.
	This is not, like, in any way, like, lack of that.
	But, like, I literally could not be in that relationship any longer with the way we were fighting.
	Like, I could not do it.
	And there was nothing you could have done to fix it.
	But I realized at the end of the day, which honestly, I'm glad that he didn't take me back.
	Shout out, don't text me.
	If you're watching this, don't text me.
	If he did, if you were to, would you get back with him?
	No, he texted me in June after I got back from my Europe trip.
	I put that in the notes to get his stuff back.
	And he was nice.
	And I totally could have seen him right there and like tried to talk to him in person.
	I left him on red.
	Like, I don't want to talk to him again.
	Like, you didn't respond to my letter.
	Like, that was it.
	That was like the closure I needed.
	Like, I'm good.
	And I think it worked out for the best.
	Like, I'm way happier now than I would have been if I had stayed in that relationship or if he took me back.
	Like, I think everything happens to reason.
	I'm okay with that.
	Sounds like a bit of coat.
	No, I'm fine.
	Okay, Brian.
	But do you think they should get back together?
	I think sometimes.
	Oh, we're not getting that together.
	I mean, my confusion, though, is you broke up with him.
	You initiated the breakup.
	And then a week later, you're like, even after he did this thing that you say was really hurtful, even then you still wanted to get back together with him.
	It's all sad.
	Because you're away?
	I was sad.
	I was a sad girl.
	Like, I was broken up.
	Like, I went over.
	This is my first boyfriend, too.
	This is my first boyfriend.
	No, no.
	I like came back around and was like, no, I do miss him.
	But honestly, I think I was just really lonely and like missing like my best friend.
	It wasn't like, no, like I like, I need him back.
	Like, no.
	Okay.
	I'll be charitable.
	Yeah, thank you.
	I'll be charitable.
	I think that sometimes when you break up with somebody, even if you're the one doing the breakup, you can still miss the person and it can be hard for you.
	Yes.
	I'll be charitable.
	That's what I did.
	And also put yourself in the eyes of a 21-year-old college girl.
	Like, that's what this is.
	Okay.
	Like, I was 21.
	Like, I, this is my first boyfriend.
	I was like, I miss him.
	Like, you know, like, that's, this is your first relationship.
	Like, I'm not thinking straight.
	And, like, now looking back on that, I'm like, no, this happened for the best.
	I made the right decision.
	I'm fine with that.
	That's good.
	I will say, I will say that sometimes, though, I do, and men do this too.
	The bluffing of the breakup.
	And you'll, so people will be like, feign the breakup, bluff the breakup in the hope of like changing the other person's behavior, though.
	What do you mean by that?
	Wait, I can talk about bluff the breakup because I did that before in this relationship.
	I was like, I'm going to dump you if you don't stop.
	Okay, and I didn't.
	So that was the bluff.
	But then I actually did, and that was ready.
	So bluffing would be like, okay, like in poker, you know, you can stay in with a weak hand.
	Like maybe your cards aren't as strong, aren't that strong.
	In a relationship sense, though.
	Well, it's a bit of an, and in a relationship sense, I think there will be situations.
	Well, the bluff could be, here's an example.
	The girl is like, doesn't want to break up.
	It's not even that the girl is using the, like, a potential breakup as leverage.
	The girl goes ahead and initiates a breakup, thinking that that will motivate the man to either change something or apologize or, you know, whatever it is.
	Maybe I love you.
	I'll change my ways.
	Like that kind of thing.
	Yeah, but we did that like a million times before.
	No, not even that.
	Yeah.
	The issue with the bluff, though, is when the woman doesn't want to break up, like the thing that she's trying to fix, it's not like she still wants to be with the guy.
	She doesn't want to break up.
	She's just saying she wants to.
	Even if the thing, how do I frame it?
	She will tolerate that thing.
	Like, it's not enough of a bad thing that she wants to break up with him.
	But she's going to bluff the breakup.
	And sometimes this backfires, though, because the guy's like, okay, let's break up.
	Okay, cool.
	And then she's like, no, no, no, I don't want that.
	And guys can do that too, though.
	Guys can definitely be like, okay, well, I don't really appreciate this or whatever.
	I don't want to talk to you anymore.
	And the girl's like, okay.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	So you got to be careful bluffing the breakup because then like you're in a bad position if you're like, oopsie, I didn't mean, you know, then you're just like, okay.
	And it's manipulative.
	And I think you can talk through problems without going like, I guess, nuclear in the sense of ending a relationship.
	So there's more notes that we get to get to.
	I do.
	Wait, do we have you do OnlyFans?
	I do.
	Do you do OnlyFans?
	I do.
	Do you do OnlyFans?
	Yeah, but I don't like promo it.
	Okay, so I two weeks ago, I do, I uh, I did a segment and it's called the reverse Uno.
	And I think it's really rarely the case that, you know, there's like FinDom stuff and there's like all these simps.
	You got financial domination.
	You guys got sugar daddies.
	You got you guys got pay pigs.
	You guys got just men.
	Oh, here's here's 200 to your Venmo to pay for it.
	Because you look nice today.
	Yes.
	So here's what I want.
	You know, I was going to say for the sex workers, but fuck it.
	Let's open it up to all the women at the panel.
	Do you have any cash on you?
	I usually don't carry cash.
	I have money in my account.
	Do you have some cash on you?
	What do you mean?
	Cash, paper money.
	Yeah, no, I don't carry cash.
	Paper money.
	You see these $2 bills right now?
	Yeah, I don't carry cash.
	Do you have any cash on you?
	Yes, and no, I'm not giving you any breakfast.
	Do you have any cash on you?
	Absolutely.
	Have you ever done, like, been a stripper or anything?
	Dancing?
	Yeah.
	Stripper?
	You know, I have ones on you.
	Do you have cash?
	You have cash?
	I have all wands on me.
	Ew, I don't even know if I want that.
	It's been a fucking G-string or something.
	Do you have cash on you?
	I do.
	Cash?
	Do you have cash on you?
	Actually, you honestly, as your punishment, you should.
	Yeah, that's a good question.
	Okay, so here's what I want, not all at the same time.
	I want you guys, this is a fucking shakedown.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I want you and you and you to give me cash right now.
	Me.
	Stick them up.
	Quantas, poppy.
	Shoot.
	Okay, go get everything.
	Everything.
	I'm going to fucking drain your fucking ones.
	Why should we go one at a time?
	Because it's like a role reversal.
	It's a shift.
	I, y'all got, women got these simps giving y'all money for no reason.
	And it's like once in your life.
	Like, you know, it's like a bucket list thing.
	It's like one.
	I can give you some petty cash.
	Yes, give me.
	Give me some.
	Holy shit.
	Wait, wait, come in.
	Come in the front here.
	All right, give me the hand it to me.
	Are you giving it all?
	You're giving this to me.
	Oh my gosh.
	No, no.
	Whoa, Nah.
	Nah.
	All of it.
	You handed all of it.
	Wait, you're going to take all my money.
	Why would you give that to me?
	This is like 30 bucks.
	And you're haggling.
	You're fucking haggling about $15.
	Go back in your seat.
	Go back in your seat.
	Why would you do that?
	All right, where's the cash?
	I don't even have a cash.
	I'll excuse that.
	Take it.
	You're going to give it.
	Oh my God.
	You're financially dominating.
	I'm kind of into this.
	Oh my God, are we?
	Go on.
	I probably.
	It's only appropriate you give us both money.
	No, just me.
	Just me.
	Just Brian.
	Yeah, just me.
	Both of you.
	No, just me.
	Just me.
	What the hell?
	Yes, Daddy.
	Give me your money.
	Give me your money.
	Oh, my God.
	You make thousands off of this podcast.
	Yeah, he falls.
	I am a starving.
	He fine college student.
	I'm a starving artist.
	Yeah, you look it.
	I'm a starving artist.
	So is she, so is she.
	I'm a college student.
	Resident Mark College.
	I can't give you.
	I'm growing.
	I'm a financially independent.
	Are we doing like a power plate right now?
	Can I get into it?
	Because that's what it's been done.
	Do it, do it, do it, do it.
	Can I like be submissive about it?
	Please.
	I will grant it.
	Okay.
	Yeah, dude.
	Ask me nicely.
	Call me, sir.
	She'll do it.
	Damn.
	Sir.
	Okay.
	May I give you everything that's in my wallet right now, sir?
	Everything.
	Everything.
	I'm going to fucking bankrupt you.
	You're going to be fucking bankrupted.
	Oh, my God.
	You're going to be in the streets.
	The meet.
	Where are you from?
	LA.
	You're in the meeting.
	I'm Skid Row.
	I'm sending you to Skid Row.
	You're going to be in Skid Row turning tricks.
	Yes, Daddy.
	Wow, I guess that makes me a pimp now.
	Dude, all right.
	This is line.
	This is it.
	Come on.
	There's more.
	Unwag that.
	Oh, my God.
	Yo, she's an unmanned.
	Hold on.
	Grab me, boy.
	Who is she?
	Does she want to text the chat?
	Daddy, go and text the chat.
	She had that TTI.
	She gets a TTS.
	Are you fucking kidding me?
	Good girl.
	Good girl.
	Thank you.
	Oh, my God.
	You're welcome.
	That's hot.
	You're welcome.
	That's so hot.
	There you go.
	You might have a new girlfriend.
	Thank you.
	Go to bed.
	Oh, you thought I would forget about you.
	Go get.
	Oh, wait, you already did it.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, what the hell?
	I'll give you a moment.
	Are you.
	We can do it.
	Do you want to give me some cash?
	I'm a starving.
	This podcast, this is like I'm a starving artist, okay?
	I am as the thousand dollar tip just came up.
	So we drink champagne.
	Would you be down to just give me some cash?
	I'm gonna give you some cash.
	What about you?
	Do you have a card?
	I have to get a nice.
	My first film is.
	Yeah, it's outside.
	Yeah, charitable artist.
	You can write it off.
	You can write it on.
	Exactly.
	Charitable donations.
	That was iconic.
	That was amazing.
	I'm impressed.
	Oh, shit.
	Married you.
	You owe me a lot of money, Brian.
	I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
	Shit.
	Because that's why men do it.
	Right?
	Men do it because it's like you feel it.
	Like, you feel like a provider.
	You feel like you're doing something for a woman.
	So, like, it really does emotionally do something.
	Well, look.
	To have the robber nurse, though, that was intense.
	It's like, also, it's like a novelty.
	It's like this one time I've had this experience.
	You've had this experience your whole life.
	These men just giving you money.
	No, it's so easy for me.
	One time.
	One time, just to say for fun.
	Hey, girls, I tricked on Brian.
	Trick on you.
	You made us your trick.
	Just for the fun.
	For the funsies, you know?
	I literally tricked you.
	That's crazy.
	You guys think so much?
	That was your initial tribute.
	Like, you think you're out of it now.
	Like, I'm going to keep, I'm just going to keep going.
	Yes, Daddy.
	Once a week.
	I need a deposit.
	I need a deposit.
	Human ATM.
	I need a deposit into my cash app and slash Venmo at least once a week.
	You know, I got bills to pay.
	I got mouths to feed.
	Ain't nothing in this world for free.
	Can I have it, please?
	Oh, he said, please.
	Oh, shit.
	Come on.
	You gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Wait, wait, what the fuck is this?
	What is this?
	It's from Dubai.
	You've got a year.
	Damn, you international.
	Wait, bro, she gave me $100.
	You guys aren't seeing that fucking money.
	Energy.
	Energy doing this is.
	Y'all are better than me for real.
	I'll bring you up next time.
	Oh, my God.
	Imagine, by the way, we like, so we've had.
	This is episode 273.
	Damn.
	If I had done this every single episode of the show, I would have made like a lot.
	$670.
	Can you give us like a count?
	Like, I want to know how much you made off of these girls.
	I gender.
	Like $300, $400.
	Yeah, there's hundreds.
	At least, there's probably like $400.
	Oh, my God.
	I think I gave you like $50.
	This is revenge.
	Revenge for what?
	Of the nerds.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Revenge of the nerds.
	You know, girls, they're just millions and billions of dollars on OnlyFans and Sugar Daddies.
	And standing upon a hilltop, Brian Atlas has reversed the course of human history.
	I love that for you.
	Thank you.
	I love that for you.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	I'm a maverick.
	Should we give him a round of applause?
	Especially since he's future young sex workers.
	I thought it was pretty honest.
	No woman ever breaks up with a guy to work on herself.
	We are green pastures.
	Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
	My ex-wife bluffed to divorce to change me.
	Didn't work.
	Saved me 50 grands a year.
	Doesn't sound like a bluff, though, if you saved.
	Ex-wife.
	50 grand a day.
	I don't know.
	It kind of sounds like she wasn't bluffing.
	Hey, this is Clan.
	By the way, that guy's a legend, let me tell you.
	That guy's a fucking legend, Clan.
	That guy's legend.
	So whatever, he's a legend.
	Pacy, you're financially dominating all of them.
	No, no, that's.
	No.
	That's patronage.
	Patronage is different.
	You guys just got financially dominated.
	Yeah, we did.
	What the hell?
	Wait, but Brian, you said please.
	Yeah, he said please to you.
	You own him.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, yeah.
	He did say please to you.
	No, no, no.
	You wrote the number one wrong.
	What's the number one wrong?
	You don't say please.
	Well, she's so nice.
	I don't know.
	I had to be dangerous.
	Whatever.
	I had to be gentle, you know?
	You gotta dominate.
	Oh, okay.
	Come down a little bit there.
	Wait, wait.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm getting real excited.
	This is in the roleplay.
	Sorry.
	Can I throw my ones at you?
	Yeah, he shakes on that.
	Yes.
	I need them respectfully handed to me.
	What the hell?
	As your master.
	Okay, Brian.
	You cannot say baby girl.
	I just did.
	No, no.
	You think I'm joking?
	You think I'm joining?
	Like, you think this is the end?
	No, you look too much like my dad to say that.
	You guys are not fucking.
	No, no, you literally.
	Don't ask.
	I'm going to hit up your dad.
	She's going to hit up your dad now.
	She's dead.
	I'm going to be checking in every week for that tribute.
	And if you're late, like, in fact, I shouldn't even have to check in.
	Like, you should just be sending that unprompted.
	Oh, no.
	I think you should get into.
	Well, it's not FemDom.
	What's the, is there a male version of FemDom?
	What?
	FemDom is different.
	FinDom culture.
	So, yeah, you could just, you should just get it.
	Make an OnlyFans.
	Get into the Finn Dom.
	I think women, like, I know we're joking on the podcast about, I don't think women generally that.
	I've never done that.
	No, no, no, no.
	I won't be gay for pay.
	You don't need to.
	If you do anything.
	There are women that do.
	You could literally make it.
	You want to be FinDomed?
	Like, for realsies?
	What does that mean?
	Let me say this.
	There are like female patrons of sex work.
	Yeah.
	There are.
	Not as many.
	It's not the culture.
	The culture is like men paying women for sex or, you know, even men paying for like trans women or men paying for men.
	Yeah.
	That's like a that culture all exists, but the culture of like women paying for men that really there's no infrastructure for it.
	No infrastructure.
	I believe you find it.
	You know, I kind of find the one.
	If I was going to support equal rights, I would believe that like the first step should be that men should be able to report.
	What you guys just did for me was reparations.
	Yeah.
	I feel it.
	And you didn't even let me throw it on you.
	Hey, I'm a classy guy.
	You said you wanted no reversus, but I didn't get to throw it.
	This is sex work.
	Tell you what.
	Yeah.
	This is the nitty-gritty.
	You can throw it if they're hundreds.
	But you think you want to throw singles on me?
	Let them throw it.
	Let them throw.
	I go through that every night.
	I wish I got hundreds only, but I get one sometimes.
	Sometimes I get five.
	Sometimes I get 50.
	I respect that.
	You know your worth.
	Know your worth.
	Hell no.
	Anyways, all right, let's move on.
	Let's move it off.
	Hey, that girl's coming back.
	Oh, wait.
	I don't know.
	Is there any more champagne?
	Is that inappropriate?
	Not $100.
	Brian's burrito budget increased.
	Working with Chin, you know, all that cash is just from some other guys.
	I followed through with the divorce.
	She didn't actually want it.
	Okay, fair enough.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, you know, there are definitely women who regret getting divorced.
	That's definitely something that happens.
	But hey, you know, look, I think I'm doing, you know, I'm doing a service.
	I feel like a lot of men out there, they want to see.
	I don't know.
	Never mind.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I'm doing that.
	I keep it.
	What is that?
	Sex work.
	All right, let's get back to the show notes here.
	Wait, there's something we were supposed to react to.
	Frick.
	We have some tweets from you.
	We have some.
	Oh, from me?
	Oh, no.
	I'm going to blow my name.
	Yo, golf, thank you for the merch purchase.
	I don't know why it's not showing up.
	Oh, really quick here.
	Hold on.
	Yo, Golf, thank you for the – looks like you bought a T-shirt.
	Thank you, man.
	Pull up Twitch again.
	Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub if you're enjoying the stream.
	It's been 23 minutes since we last had a prime sub.
	I think it's bugged, boys.
	I think it is bugged.
	Also, hold on.
	Whoops.
	What the heck?
	Yo, Blafest, thank you for the gifted five, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Blafest.
	And then we have Bay Dote.
	I don't know if this is going to come up.
	Oh, what the heck?
	Bay Dote, looks like you bought a hoodie on the merch store.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I don't know why it doesn't.
	Yeah, guys, if you want to get some merch, chopped out whatever.com.
	I'm wearing our 6X premium hoodie, our 6X premium hoodie.
	And also, yeah, I was going to wear the Big Labia Matter one today, but unfortunately, I love that stain.
	I forgot it at home.
	Yeah, I'm actually a feminist on this.
	Someone asked me if I had a labia plasty at the club yesterday.
	Whoa, what?
	What?
	No, I'm serious.
	Oh, the strip club.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Nude.
	Okay, I was like, yeah.
	You made it.
	I made a labia blessing.
	I was like, no, it's natural.
	I'm trying to pick you up.
	Like, hey, have you ever posted?
	Can I get your honest opinion on this?
	I don't know, man.
	Look, as somebody who only dates women with large labiats, this is a.
	How do you find out, though?
	What do you mean?
	I mean, you say you only date women with large labias, but you don't want them to fuck on the first date, so how do you...
	I didn't say that.
	No?
	Did I say that?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Philip on the first date.
	I would love to hear.
	Yeah, we can.
	I don't mind that.
	I feel like, would you continue seeing someone seriously?
	I don't think so.
	So I think that there's.
	So logically, for example, you would agree that it could be possible that a woman who's a virgin who's never had sex before.
	Hypothetically, yeah.
	Like, it's logically possible that a woman, or maybe that's extreme, a woman who's maybe been with one, two guys or whatever.
	She decides you're the special one.
	Well, not even that, but she could be like, she could have some intention in the sense that she really prefers long-term relationships, but she doesn't have any qualms with, like, she doesn't just, you know, go out looking for one-night stands.
	She doesn't go to bars and clubs and has drunken, you know, whatever.
	She's like, no, I'm like, want a long-term relationship, but it coincidingly, she does have sex early on.
	I think that that can be completely consistent.
	Now, can it be an indicator of, you know, it can be, but I don't think it's always the case.
	So I, you know, generally probably a bit rare for virgins to want to like first throw it back.
	But I definitely think a lot of men, but well, sure, definitely men, but even a lot of women, like they're losing their virginity story is, of course, consensually.
	Very sad.
	Losing your virginity.
	I think.
	Oh, what part is it?
	Losing it to someone who you don't want to be with.
	Like, I think a lot of women don't, you know, they'll lose it.
	I think a lot of women just kind of lose it, you know?
	I don't think.
	Like ripping off the band-aid.
	I did that when I was very young.
	Not all.
	I'm not saying all women, but there's definitely like, yes, a good amount of women who, yeah, it's just like, hey, I just, I don't really care about waiting, but I, you know, I want it to be a guy, a good guy or whatever.
	I do wish I didn't just rip the band-aid off, though, when I was younger, but I think I did because of societal pressure.
	And I think a lot of women who did rip the band-aid off like that probably agree.
	They're like, I wish my first time was different, you know?
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	I think that way.
	I don't hate my first time, but I also wish that maybe I had like waited a little while and like had done it, you know, maybe with my first boyfriend or whatever.
	Like, not that I got coerced into it or that I didn't want to do it.
	It was with somebody that was like a few years older than me, and I was a teenager.
	And so it was like they should have known better than to like even have put me in that situation type shit.
	That makes sense.
	Wait, how did we?
	I'm trying to remember how we got here.
	I asked you about virginity and woman fucking on the first date.
	No, but before that, we were.
	Oh, a reaction video.
	No, no.
	I'm trying to.
	How did we even get there?
	Oh, yeah.
	You did say that you had a reaction thing.
	Yeah, you said you had one more.
	Oh, yeah, my Twitter.
	No, it wasn't that.
	I'm trying to remember what we were going on about.
	Fucking on the first date.
	No, but something led to that conversation.
	Can I have some more champagne?
	If you ask nicely.
	Say, sir.
	Can you throw another hundred at them?
	Here, pass it down.
	Excuse me, sir.
	May I please have some champagne?
	Excuse me, sir.
	May I please have some champagne?
	I feel like we're interrupting me.
	All right.
	Feels intimate.
	There's not much left, but enjoy.
	Thank you.
	Enjoy.
	Thank you, deserve not the least idea.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Chivalry.
	You're welcome.
	Sleeping on the first date.
	I forgot.
	I don't know.
	How did we get there?
	Does anybody remember?
	I just remember Twitter happening, and then I remember asking you the question, but I don't know what happened in between.
	No, what happened before?
	I think we were talking about your first time, Brian.
	So how'd that go?
	How did that happen?
	Oh, shoot, my memory.
	Saw that.
	Yeah.
	Like all those forgotten relationships.
	It's tough to see.
	Keep picking this one.
	I'm sensing some pension.
	Right.
	Even if you were forced to surrender these women.
	What?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Pro shoddy, it's below the threshold.
	If you want to ask a question as a read, it's $100, well, $99 and up.
	And then TTS, where it comes in more quickly, that is $199 and up.
	I'm trying to recall actually because there's something I wanted to say on the sleeping with somebody quick or whatever, but I kind of forgot what led us there.
	Maybe the chat.
	Let me ask the chat really quick.
	Chat, what was the conversational thread before the sleeping with somebody on the first date thing?
	How did we get there?
	How did we arrive there?
	Anybody?
	Just opening my hands.
	We're talking about.
	Wait, we're talking about labia, I think.
	Oh, yeah, the gate.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	We're talking about my affinity for large labia.
	And you're like, how would you know?
	Right?
	Yeah, for the first date kind of thing.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think because I'm autistic, I might just ask.
	Are you autistic?
	What size y'all pussy at?
	No, I'll try to.
	Can you tell?
	Like, do women have like big labia energy?
	No.
	What size are labias right now?
	Oh, my God.
	So I don't think there's a definitive way to tell.
	You look at the fan.
	Sometimes you get the vibe.
	Okay.
	That's why.
	Rados right now.
	It's not the biggest vibe.
	But it's not like accurate.
	And then I also think that.
	Did you get five labia?
	I do think that there is like maybe something like sometimes it can be tied to their facial features.
	Ah, what kind of stuff?
	Yeah, what?
	Interesting.
	I love that.
	Yeah.
	I love seeing that.
	What's up with that?
	Also, I think not as a like, okay, so this isn't 100% the time, but I think it's more likely.
	So taller women, it's not like, okay, if you're taller, if you're a taller woman, you 100% have a large labia.
	But I think taller women tend to have larger labia.
	We should do a study.
	A little bit.
	Although, look, I've been to the tall woman and it was an any, so whatever.
	But it was an audience.
	No, it was an any.
	It was a ninny.
	But I've been with some other tall women and they got out.
	That's great that you know what I mean.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, I'm a man of science.
	I can tell you this.
	I don't think many women know their Sydneys and Audis from what I've talked to.
	Yeah, some women don't know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's great that you've done that.
	I'm serious.
	It's a mystery to them.
	Yeah.
	Raise your hand at the table if you have a large labia.
	No, actually.
	No.
	Why is it?
	No one knows, huh?
	I wouldn't say large.
	I would say that mine is not large.
	I definitely pretty large.
	Pretty.
	Pretty large?
	Yeah, that's why someone asked if I had a labia.
	Probably large.
	Wait, if someone asked if you had a labioplasty, wouldn't that mean removing?
	Well, so if...
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	He asked if I got my vagina done.
	Yeah, labioplasy.
	If you had an Audi, producing the Audi.
	If you had an Audi, I'd say, I don't feel like he would ask you that if you had an Audi.
	He needs to have a porn style.
	I do have to say that.
	He said it was so large that he thought I had it done.
	Wait, he thought.
	Well, hold on.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You got.
	Oh, filler.
	Oh, yeah.
	How do you do that?
	What?
	I think that does exist.
	I think it's less common.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I have never gotten.
	It's a dumb strip club guy.
	Okay.
	It's a dumb strip club guy.
	What do you expect?
	Do you really expect for him to fully know what?
	Were you offended, though?
	No.
	No, I thought it was interesting.
	I wasn't like offended by that.
	I was like, okay.
	Shit.
	Interesting.
	No, it's natural.
	You know.
	I grew up myself.
	But you know, I grew up myself.
	Sometimes you don't know, though.
	It's always a pleasant surprise.
	There you go.
	It's a pleasant surprise.
	But I guess he didn't see many.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because in porn tech, it's like typical that in porn women have anys from what I've seen.
	Not his porn.
	Yeah, not your porn, huh?
	Well, I think that like if I that might have been the case, like if you go way back to like print, like Playboy.
	Vintage.
	But like, I would say porn that has existed since the 2000s.
	They, there's, there's large pussy.
	I haven't seen it personally, but I respect that.
	I actually rarely watch porn.
	I, I, if I'm in a relationship, I don't watch it.
	You know, look, if you're if you're out, you haven't, you know, bare minimum.
	You know, if it's been a minute, you know, you just, but I'm not addicted or anything.
	But look, I'm not going to lie.
	I've seen porn.
	I've watched porn.
	And trust me, there's a lot of women with some large labia out there.
	Let me just say that.
	All right.
	All right.
	Well, I don't know.
	I'm not a porn.
	I don't frequent to porn myself.
	I'm just saying, it's out there.
	I believe you.
	In fact, there's like actually that there's like people are specifically fans of the large labia.
	I know, I know.
	It's like a specific community.
	Is that like a large category?
	It actually is.
	There's like Reddits or whatever, Reddit, subreddits or whatever.
	Yeah, you would know.
	Hundreds of thousands.
	Do you want to tell us something?
	Listen, I don't know.
	I mean, I've never been asked if my pussy was fake till yesterday in my like two years of being like a dancer.
	Oh, yeah.
	I love that for you.
	Congratulations.
	You're going to make a man very happy one day.
	There you go.
	You're a giant vagina.
	Congratulations.
	Extra large pussy.
	Extra XXL.
	Okay, so anyways, let's get back to it.
	Where were we?
	What the fuck?
	Hey, it's Pasty George.
	W. Pasty George.
	A lot of women may wait.
	Oh, yeah, dude.
	That's true.
	She's right there.
	She's coming.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hey, you think I thought I forgot.
	I still want to champagne.
	All right, let's see what we got here.
	Let's see what we got.
	And then we'll get into some topics.
	Go into some topics here.
	We got to do, let's see if there's anything else.
	We're not going to get all the notes.
	I know some of you guys submitted some notes.
	We won't hit everything, but we will get all of you.
	Let's see if there's anything else for Lexi, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	I guess the wait.
	i want to know your take oh yeah this is a good cop this is a good topic Lying to get girls into bed.
	You write, it's gone out of hand in modern dating.
	I actually had a kind of a debate on this that went, I don't know, viral, but it got some traction on X.
	Oh, I couldn't find it.
	I literally look, she's on.
	So you guys were gone for 30 minutes and you couldn't find it.
	Find what?
	Money.
	Couldn't find it.
	She couldn't find it.
	Money.
	Bruh.
	Me when I lie.
	Okay.
	Anyways, so lying about getting sex.
	Lying to get girls into bed.
	So one girl, the one who I responded to that went viral.
	She said that men lying to get laid, men lying to get sex is rape.
	Misrepresenting your intentions to get sex is rape.
	So this would be now, of there are some circumstances, rape by deception.
	Legally, this is actually something that can be actionable.
	But this is more so like you're staying at your friend's house and he has a girlfriend.
	And while he gets out of bed, you sneak into bed and pretend to be him and have sex with your girlfriend's friend.
	What?
	That is rape.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand that.
	I don't know if I worded it.
	Essentially, there's a level of deception.
	Like, how about if you were to wear a mask so convincing so as to trick a woman into believing that that's her boyfriend or husband?
	I don't know if this sort of mask exists.
	Maybe it's an American horror story where Tate pretends to be the husband in the gimp suit.
	So that is a crime.
	Yeah, that's rape by deception.
	Yeah, yeah, that's right.
	That is a crime.
	Rape by deception is an actual thing.
	Oops, drop some water.
	Is an actual thing, and that's clearly wrong.
	Like clearly undisputable, clearly wrong, right?
	You, you know, you're, you sneak into, you know, someone's bedroom and the lights are off.
	And, you know, the woman mistakenly believes that it's her boyfriend or her husband and proceeds to have sex.
	That's rape.
	But she was saying, well, simply, you know, a guy saying, a guy lying about his intentions.
	Oh, yeah, babe, I want a girlfriend.
	And then he sleeps with you.
	And then he, and it would be that, because I think people can change their mind.
	Like, you could have the intention of wanting something serious, but then, like, I don't know, you sleep with a girl and then she like tried to punch you during sex or something.
	Like, that would be a deal breaker for me.
	I don't know.
	I'd be like, wow, this girl's great.
	And then she like started choking me mid-sex.
	Like, and I'm like, whoa, I don't know if we're sexually compatible.
	So, but, and so I think that's just to be clear.
	It's, I think it's wrong for a guy to lie about his intentions, misrepresent his intentions in furtherance of getting laid.
	Yes.
	I don't think it's a crime.
	I don't think it's rape.
	So I agree.
	It's clearly wrong.
	It's immoral.
	It's wrong.
	Yeah.
	But I don't think it's raising.
	Legally, it's not.
	On what scale, though?
	Like, is he doing this to one woman or is he doing this every single relationship?
	Just like tons and tons and tons of women that he's tricking on.
	Like, that, to me, changes it.
	It's, it's more asshole-ish, obviously.
	If you're, this is like you're just doing it a lot.
	You're, you're an asshole to a greater magnitude, but I don't think it meets the threshold of rape.
	Again, it's a terrible men shouldn't do it.
	It's wrong.
	Would you call it toxic?
	Yeah, sure.
	I'd say, I'd say it's toxic.
	I don't think men should do it.
	I think, though, if it was like some women do push that, though, I've heard some women push, like, okay, well, if the guy lies about his intentions, that's that's rape.
	Um, and I mean, the argument is basically like, would the woman have consented had she known the truth?
	Um, and you perhaps, no, but she can't because she doesn't have the knowledge to make consent.
	But but I don't think it meets the threshold of rape again, that's it's wrong.
	I don't think men should do it.
	Um, I personally, I mean, at least my own dating perspective, sleeping with a woman once and then like never talking to her again, uh, absent her doing something like that things up in some sort of way.
	Like, if I choose to have sex with a girl, I want there to be continuity and I want to at least have the possibility to pursue something there.
	Like, just sleeping with a woman once seems kind of like a waste of time, to be honest.
	Respect.
	Real.
	Respect.
	Because a lot of men don't understand that.
	They think that there is just, we're just bodies to burn and turn through.
	And I get a little frustrated because there are men out there that are completely misrepresenting their intentions.
	Do I think that it's rape?
	I think it's toxic.
	And I honestly think it's abusive.
	And I think it does create an environment.
	I think it's harmful.
	It creates an environment of very low consent.
	Is it rape?
	I think that we're getting into semantics here about how we actually define rape.
	Yeah.
	You know, but at the end of the day, it's toxic.
	It's bad behavior.
	You shouldn't do it, whether it's rape or not.
	I couldn't do that.
	Yes, I agree.
	Yeah, I agree that it's wrong.
	Men should move in a way where, like, ideally, look, I'm not saying, you know, if you have sex with somebody, that that needs to be the person you spend the rest of your life with.
	Ideally, that would probably be like the best for society, best for individuals, but realistically, that's not the case.
	But I at least think that maybe the minimum threshold is if you're going to have sex with somebody, like let there be some likelihood that you want to pursue something more than just the sexual encounter with them.
	You know, even a friendship, if you're like not ready to go, I think ideally it'd be like you're in pursuit of a relationship.
	Well, yeah, for me, yes, but some men don't think like that.
	Right.
	And women too, you know.
	You should just say what they mean.
	Yeah.
	Just hold up to whatever you want.
	Just do it.
	But I don't know.
	And I think part of it, though, I don't know.
	Like if a girl, and you might not believe me, but if a girl was just like, listen, Brian, I'll fuck you once, but that's it.
	It wouldn't interest me.
	Like, it wouldn't interest me.
	Like, I don't see the point, you know?
	But more realistically speaking, at least like the guys who actively do that, they're like, okay, I just want to sleep with a girl once.
	Seriously, well, regardless of what she wants.
	Some women are happy with just casual hookup, whatever.
	I don't, like, I don't know.
	It's a lot of work.
	Yeah.
	Who's got the time?
	Just to fuck once.
	And then also, I don't know if this resonates with any of you.
	I don't think, even if it's like ultimately going to be the girl that, you know, you do get into a relationship with, I don't think, like, if your motivation is strictly sex, I don't think the first time you have sex with somebody, and for some of these men, that would be the only time.
	I don't think that's going to be like good sex necessary.
	Well, I shouldn't say that.
	It's not going to be the best sex that you could have with that person.
	Because I think, one, I think sex is better when you actually have a connection.
	Yeah, dude.
	You have like a connection, you care about the person, you love the person.
	But also, just from like a practical perspective, well, one, you get more comfortable with the person.
	That's going to make sex more enjoyable.
	When you're more, some people have first-time nerves, they can be nervous.
	But also, just if you've had sex with somebody a whole bunch, like you know what they like, they know what you like.
	And so I think that makes the sex better.
	The sex is just better in all kinds of different from a psychological standpoint.
	Yeah, you just do.
	Yeah.
	I agree with that.
	Anyways, so, but you think it's wrong.
	I agree.
	I do think, though, that we should have the equivalent counterpart to this.
	I think women creating a facade as to their appearance.
	I know where this is going.
	I know where this is going.
	So I do think it's the case that through the use of either makeup or plastic surgery, or I mean, it could even be like online catfishing, not in the sense that like you'll use filters don't exist in real life, but they do exist on dating apps.
	So like women will use filters or they'll Photoshop and you might change like the shape of your body or you might change your face.
	I think that I don't think that that's that's like you're kind of lying about your appearance.
	Men are, I don't think I need to tell any of you, men are visual creatures.
	This is true.
	Yeah.
	So, and you might say, well, hold on, Brian.
	Okay, well, what if the what?
	Okay, well, guys will know if you're wearing makeup, not all the time.
	Some makeup can be more minimal.
	And then also.
	So even minimal makeup?
	What's that?
	Even like.
	I think minimal makeup can make a difference, actually, in terms of their attraction to you.
	Yeah, and you think that's like.
	Are you okay?
	No, I'll hold it.
	But I do think that also, even if the guy consciously, like the guy knows exactly what you're wearing, like exactly what you're doing.
	Or if I say I've had all this lip filler and my eyes done and my boots done.
	But like if I look at a woman and I'm like, okay, she's wearing blush, she's wearing foundation, she's contouring her nose, she's wearing eyeliner, she's wearing fake, like if even if I know every single thing the woman's doing, there's like a subconscious impact on a man's attraction for you.
	Even if he acknowledges and knows that you're wearing makeup and he can make some guess as to she probably doesn't look as good without the makeup.
	Like there's still someone born with glitter on her.
	There's like this subconscious, like that initial first impression isn't immediately dissipated or diminished, even if you acknowledge that she is wearing makeup.
	So like makeup is this really, I think makeup is more powerful than a guy lying that he's a doctor.
	That sounds dumb.
	Like, okay, like I think those are very different things.
	Like, I think me, if I were to lie and say I'm a brain surgeon and it was believable or whatever, the impact on the attraction, like the level of attraction that a woman's gonna have.
	I see what you're trying to say.
	Like if I tell a girl I work at McDonald's versus I'm a brain surgeon, I think the woman's gonna feel a bit more attraction for me.
	But like I think that the difference that in attraction that makeup will provide for women is way stronger than that.
	I don't think there's anything men can do that even compares to like the difference in attraction that like cosmetics and makeup can elicit in men.
	A guy's hair shave y'all's heads.
	It's ROPS.
	If the guy's ROPS, like no, you look completely different.
	Yeah.
	Like that's a completely different.
	Or if the guy always wears a cap, they're seating.
	Oh, yeah, hat fishing.
	Hat fishing.
	I've spoke to the guy very differently.
	That's a thing.
	Yeah, yes.
	I have seen pretty profound hair transformations when they go to the barber and their hair is fucked up and then they get like, I don't know, the fuckboy lettuce or whatever.
	And they look better.
	They do look way better.
	Maybe that's like the only equivalent that a man can do.
	But I don't know if that's as strong as makeup.
	I think it's under a hairline transplant.
	Yeah, like, yeah.
	How do you feel about like a man getting a hair transplant?
	If they're like balding.
	Yeah.
	Then they're bald.
	How do you feel about it?
	A long time ago.
	How do you think of that?
	Because plastic surgery would be like plastic surgery.
	Like, oh my gosh, I'm in surgery, but what if Amanda goes to turkey and gets a hair transplant?
	Or a toupee.
	I feel like a touchdown.
	I support that.
	It's a better comparison to makeup.
	Because a toupee you can remove and then it's very different.
	I think so.
	I think with the hair transplant, it's different.
	And here's why.
	Oh, right.
	So, for example, like my hair as it currently is, I don't know, in five, I'll probably eventually start losing hair or whatever.
	I think with a hair transplant, it's returning you to a point in time.
	Ah, but I feel like, well, I'll just say the argument.
	Well, it's returning.
	It's returning you to a point in time that, like, somebody having a normal hairline or whatever is something that can naturally occur or was naturally occurring when they were younger.
	Whereas like eyeliner.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I get eyeliner that doesn't occur naturally in nature.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, almost apples like plastic surgery.
	Like, let's say a woman like gets like a liposuction or something, like, like after pregnancy.
	And she like get like wants to revert her body back to like what it looked like before the pregnancy.
	Yeah.
	Like, do you think that's like comparable?
	And that's also permanent.
	I feel like that's not changing.
	Well, I don't think there's like a, I don't know if this is a compelling argument.
	There's not like a natural way to like suction fat cells out of you.
	But I would also say, like, for example, lipo belly, that never your belly can never look like that naturally.
	There is a distinct effect on the midsection, the torso, the belly area with lipo that you can tell.
	Sometimes, if it's done really well, though, you can tell.
	So there to be fair.
	It is there are some that are better than others, but even the good ones, you can still kind of tell.
	And there's like the appearance of, I don't know if exactly how to articulate it.
	Maybe it's like it looks sometimes.
	There's a bit of lumps or there's like looks unnatural.
	Yeah, it doesn't.
	It looks plasticky almost.
	It doesn't look, it's uncanny.
	Yeah.
	And so for that reason, I don't know if liposuction is a completely fair comparison.
	What about a breast, like a really good boob job?
	You can tell.
	You can tell.
	Or a breast lift.
	Yeah.
	If your boobs sag over time, you get them put back up.
	Yeah, that's the point.
	Yeah.
	That's kind of the same thing that you're saying.
	Yeah, well, I would say that at least with implants, I don't think that so women with natural breasts implants don't perfectly recreate how that looks.
	Like, you can kind of tell when they're implants.
	Not always.
	Does anybody here have implants?
	No.
	No.
	What's going to be?
	Excuse me.
	Don't look like a thank you as a compliment, man.
	Thank you, though.
	Maybe I got bamboozled.
	I don't know.
	Wow, that's crazy.
	I'll take that, though.
	Thank you.
	See, I think you can't really tell who's got a boob down.
	Yeah, some people are just blessed.
	Some people really genuinely are blessed.
	I'm really big and lucky.
	Naturally, it's crazy.
	95% of the time when it comes to guessing this stuff.
	That was wrong.
	I'd love to see everything I got this.
	You'll see a lot of fake stuff, but you will see some neutral.
	My parents will kill me.
	I'm like, yeah, you're in like the person dial with people.
	That would be scary.
	Damn.
	No, I can never.
	That would be okay.
	Yeah.
	I have my boobs tattooed.
	I got you mixed up with somebody else.
	Sure.
	No, okay.
	Do you have your boobs on?
	They're tattooed.
	Oh, no.
	We're talking about the implants.
	Well, I get it.
	Isn't that similar, though?
	No.
	I feel like it is.
	It's like modifications to your tits.
	Yeah, but it's not like surgery to make them bigger.
	No, but they make them look different than they did beforehand.
	We have Clain coming in here with a TTL.
	Yo, thank you, Clann.
	Clay donated $200.
	As men, we should be 100% honest about our intentions, bank balance, and career.
	We should never fake who we are.
	It is disgusting.
	Anyone will take off their makeup?
	Just curious.
	Yeah, we'll do it later.
	Nick, can you close the door?
	Also, we're going to.
	I need to get up momentarily.
	We're going to do Reacts.
	You know, let's do.
	We got some videos from her we were going to react to.
	Oh, God.
	So we'll just pull that up really quick, I guess.
	I don't even know what I post half the time.
	I'm usually on the show.
	Let's do that.
	I'll be right back if you want to get those go, Nick.
	And we'll just have you guys react to those.
	I think I already know what's going to be up because they're going to, you know.
	I've got a feeling.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, is this the one?
	I guess that's like six.
	Okay, just play it.
	I'll just stay here for a sec.
	Is there audio?
	Oh, nobody can.
	You can just play it.
	I guess that's maybe it's copying.
	I'm unattractive when I literally pay my bills by being hot.
	Okay.
	But like, you know, there's a lot of sim men out there.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	And there's also a lot of really attractive men who like me as well.
	No, but I mean, I feel like a girl, even if I'm not, you know, making a statement about your looks.
	I'm just saying, like, a girl could not be attractive and still make money online.
	Because men find her attractive.
	I feel like there aren't.
	I don't think.
	No, no.
	No?
	I don't know.
	Then why are they giving their money?
	Huh?
	What's the incentive to give that woman money if they want to be able to do that?
	Oh, there's other dynamics there.
	Yeah.
	There's other dynamics there.
	Like, just they want to be financially dominated and they don't really care whether the woman's attractive or not.
	If they have a lot of options, though, wouldn't they want to choose the best one?
	I mean, well, if that's if that's the case, then, I mean, why would anybody buy OnlyFans at all?
	Because like, there's like Hours and hours of like free pornography available of like Sophie Rain, for example.
	Like, trust me, there's women who are like way more attractive than she is, and they're doing like hardcore porn, and it's available for free or solo content, and it's all available for free.
	So, it's like there's another component there.
	Like, I'm by the way, I'm not saying Sophie Rain is like unattractive.
	She's, she's, I think she's a bit overrated, to be honest, but um, I mean, she, yeah, whatever.
	I should maybe I shouldn't shut on her.
	She's gonna get you canceled, man.
	Well, I mean, I was gonna say, like, she she mogs me.
	Okay, I would say she's more attractive comparatively than I am, but I don't think she's like here at probably at her college at here at University of Santa Barbara, California, Santa Barbara City College.
	Like, I see women more attractive than Sophie Rain all the time.
	Yeah, yeah, so I don't think she, well, I'm saying I don't think she's anything special, but there's another component there besides just her looks.
	Psychological.
	I think it's good marketing.
	I gotta get up.
	You guys continue on with the convo.
	Okay.
	You are a beautiful woman, but I've worked at clubs for a while and I've seen really unattractive women get hired at certain clubs I've worked at, and they will make the most money than the prettiest woman in the room because their personality is good.
	And that's it.
	There's also OnlyFans with just tits down.
	Huh?
	There's also OnlyFans with no face showing.
	Like, I know a girl who makes a lot of money without her face showing on OnlyFans.
	But that was her buddy's heat too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think attractive can be both physical and also like your personality.
	And I think that's what draws people to OnlyFans.
	Is like most of my promotion and marketing is like just me being some fucking dude online.
	Like I just shitpost online and people just like that.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm saying I think you're beautiful, but also you don't have to be beautiful in order to make money.
	Yeah.
	That's fair.
	Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
	I always say that though, because a lot of men don't like women with tattoos and I have a lot of tattoos.
	Like some men will think that's really unattractive and other men will pay the most money at a club or on OnlyFans for me than other girls who don't have tattoos for that reason because they think it's attractive.
	Like some will be disgusted and others will love it.
	Yeah.
	So it's kind of like subjective to the person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think it's, you know, it's okay as a woman to think that you're you're attractive.
	Like to see beauty in yourself, to see your own attractiveness, to be able to align with it and also to like resonate with that and elevate it, whether it's through exercise or eating healthy or having a good lifestyle, or you know, even if you want to take it a little further, get some filler in your lips or you want to get a lipo or you want to do whatever.
	If it's something that makes you feel like a complete person and like you're fully in the image of who you want to be, like don't let someone else's condemnation stop you.
	Yeah.
	At the end of the day, your opinion is more important than whatever discretion that they're trying to put on you.
	But a lot of people, their reservations with plastic surgery, I think are valid.
	You know, beyond just like the aesthetics, it is risky.
	You are going under anesthesia.
	You're going under the knife.
	It can be addictive.
	It can lead to all kinds of like psychological things.
	So it's a value.
	And he ain't cute at all.
	What the fuck?
	This count tells her not to actually shower.
	Where does black hair chest tattoo work?
	Looks familiar.
	Most of the day.
	Missed most of this.
	Yo, welcome.
	This does sound like a rose.
	Yo, Clane, I hope you had a good flight.
	I hope you had a good flight.
	And I appreciate it, man.
	Were you guys saying I should FinDom him?
	What the?
	I missed him.
	Shit, man.
	I work at Deja Vu Hollywood.
	You should make an OnlyFans just to see what happens.
	And just to be like, hey guys, I'll do FinDom.
	I'm not going to do any gay shit, but you can send me money.
	And I'm pretty sure you'll get customers.
	I don't think that.
	Yeah, dude, you already got them, basically.
	I'll do the bit jokingly on the show, but I'm definitely not starting an OnlyFans.
	That would be quite.
	They'll take 20% anyway.
	Yeah, dude.
	You might as well.
	said the other platform takes 30.
	Okay.
	We're going to do, we have, we're going to jump into this, then we're going to come back to some of the reacts.
	Stiff Meister.
	I'm hungry.
	I have to wait until, is she in the bathroom?
	By the way, your dog's very well-behaved.
	Thank you.
	I try to do that.
	Have you been having issues or you're good?
	I'm fine.
	You're fine.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, what's your dog's name?
	Nala.
	Nala.
	She's sweet.
	Does she like to be pet or not really?
	Yeah, I took her vest off, so she's not working, but I just, you know, if I call her over, then she'll leave first.
	Yeah, no, she's a sweetheart.
	Thank you.
	She's a good girl.
	Okay, so I'm changing something.
	This is something I can't believe I haven't done before.
	Ask everyone to write their own looks on a scale of one to 10.
	You can't pick seven.
	We're going to go around the table before you give your answers.
	going to give new instructions also can somebody wait hold on Let me do the math really quick.
	So if I had done the money thing, 273 episodes times 300.
	Let's just say I made 200 an episode.
	I would have made $54,000 in cash if I freaking hustled.
	Damn, man, that's crazy.
	Now you know.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Should have done it.
	Missing out.
	Oh, well.
	Okay, so here's what I want everybody to do.
	I want everyone to put their hands out like, or palms out and close your eyes.
	Close your fists.
	Close your fists.
	Palms out.
	Close your eyes.
	Okay.
	Rate your looks on a scale of one to ten using your fingers.
	Keep your eyes closed.
	Eyes closed.
	Okay.
	Now, open your eyes.
	You cannot change your answer.
	Open your eyes.
	Tell us your answer.
	Nine.
	Nine.
	Ten.
	Eight.
	Five.
	Average.
	Five.
	Five.
	Two.
	Come on, dude.
	Come on.
	You're not a fucking two.
	Okay, nine, nine, ten, eh?
	All right.
	You would say a five for yourself?
	Yes?
	Are you kidding?
	No?
	You too?
	I think I'm pretty average looking, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I disagree.
	I'm not offended by being average.
	Okay, so we got a nine, a nine, a ten, and an eight.
	I will spare the fives of my fury and wrath, but I will draw my attention to the nine, the nine, the ten, the eight.
	Just some questions for you guys.
	Can you tell me a woman who you can like a celebrity or something who you think is a nine?
	Well, the first thing I thought of is someone that I've been compared that I look like, who Hunter Schaefer or Jewels from Euphoria.
	I thought you were Hunter Schaefer.
	Yeah, you do look like a hero.
	Nick, do you want to get pulls on those?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Okay, well, originally I was at 8.5, and I think, can I go with 8.5?
	I think you got to own the 9.
	Okay, I'll own the 9.5.
	I don't know.
	I think.
	Sabrina Carpenter.
	She's a nine?
	Yes, she's beautiful.
	What would you give her?
	She's so beautiful.
	What?
	You don't think she's a nine?
	I think she is.
	I think she's really beautiful.
	I mean, she wears a lot of makeup, but even with all the makeup, she's okay.
	Do you want another one?
	She's not a nine.
	I mean, hey, if you think she's a nine, then that's fine.
	But yes, I think she is.
	Do you have another one?
	Well, Maya Mitchell.
	Maya, I don't think I have no idea.
	She was in the Fosters.
	Oh, no.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	You're a 10.
	Tell us another woman who you think is a 10.
	Like a celebrity or somebody.
	Christina Aguilera.
	Christina Aguilera.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	Like young Christina or current Christina?
	Look at her today.
	Today.
	Like, look at her.
	Go look at her.
	What the fuck?
	Go look at her right now.
	I don't know.
	Isn't she a bit chunky?
	She's beautiful.
	Go look at her right now.
	Prime.
	Prime?
	Prime is really pretty.
	Pleasantly plump.
	She's not chunky anymore.
	Have you heard of that terminology?
	Maybe she lost her weight or whatever.
	I feel like that's worse than just calling her.
	Go look at her right now.
	All right.
	And then give us an eight.
	Young Courtney Love.
	I get compared to her all the time.
	Courtney Love Hewitt.
	That one?
	What's that?
	The rocker?
	Kurt Cobain's wife.
	Courtney Lee.
	Never mind.
	Not that.
	Realizing your last name is Tricky.
	Yeah.
	No, you're valid.
	You've seen my ID.
	You can verify.
	You can verify.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What?
	Courtney Love's not a Trump-like.
	Oh, you guys, some of you guys wrote this.
	Wait, hold on.
	You said you were an eight here on the questionnaire, but now you upgraded to a nine.
	It's the whatever podcast effect.
	8.5.
	That's 8.5.
	10, 8, 5.
	Okay.
	For the questionnaire.
	Okay, well.
	I still believe 8.5.
	I guess my.
	Oh, thank you, Queen.
	I guess my question is: why don't average women just think that they're average?
	Why do we, what would we think on average?
	I think it's pretty, pretty.
	Average is not.
	Average isn't bad.
	Doesn't mean you're ugly.
	Like an average would be five.
	Five is good.
	Five is a good.
	Five is good.
	Five is average.
	I'm just wondering why that is.
	What do you mean?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	You know what I mean?
	No.
	How.
	Okay, so I was thinking, what if we used an ad?
	I don't know if adjective is the right word.
	If we, instead of a number, we used adjective.
	So five would be average.
	Six would be cute.
	Seven would be what would be above cute?
	I don't think we'd be speaking.
	I think eight is beautiful.
	Eight is beautiful.
	What is seven?
	Attractive?
	Yeah.
	I'd say seven's average.
	That's not how numbers work.
	Well, it's not, but.
	All right, all right.
	I don't know.
	Five is average.
	Six is cute.
	Eight is beautiful.
	Nine is drop dead.
	Ten doesn't exist.
	Oh, well, I think ten does exist.
	I think there's so many tens in the world.
	My bestie is a ten.
	I hope she's watching.
	You're a ten, Maddie.
	Do you think there are more women tens?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think it's equivalent.
	You're a ten, you're a ten.
	You're a ten, you're a ten.
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, I love women, so I would say, yeah, I would agree.
	I can name plenty male tens.
	Do you want to go there?
	I couldn't name one male 10.
	Oh, that's not very nice.
	What?
	It's just who I am.
	I don't know a male 10.
	Who's a male 10 in your eyes?
	Well, I don't think there are 10s, but I would say.
	You never met a male 10?
	No, I think there's just nines.
	Okay, well, if you're going.
	Then it's one through nine.
	Then the scale is one through nine.
	Then the scale is one through nine.
	Then that's again.
	I'm never a ten out of ten.
	Ten is the delusion check, I guess.
	Sometimes you just got it like that.
	Ozzy Osborne's a 10.
	I'd say Brad Pitt's a nine.
	Brad Pitt's a nine.
	I would say Brad is a nine.
	I would say Ozzy, like, you know, maybe an Oscar.
	Ozzy's a 10.
	Like an eight or a nine.
	Osborne.
	He was physically attractive.
	He died at 10.
	He died at 10.
	I'm serious.
	I think my ex was a 10.
	Brian donated $200.
	Is Corvette still dancing there?
	I forgot her real name.
	No, she's not.
	Brian, if you ever get your own jet, let me know.
	Days off.
	I'll fly you.
	I don't know.
	Private jets are pretty expensive, aren't they?
	I don't think I'm balling to that level unless you keep getting cash.
	That's true.
	If I keep doming these girls for money or fin doming them, then I might be on my way.
	But there are some things I'm just not willing to do.
	I don't think I've met a dancer named Corvette, if I'm honest.
	Janoni Crystals.
	Yeah!
	A Crystal River.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	What about Hyacinth?
	What the fuck, Brian?
	What about Jade?
	Jade, I met one.
	You know, Jade?
	Yeah.
	What about F?
	I don't know.
	I'm just pulling out stripper names on my.
	Okay.
	Let me think here.
	Nah, we'll just.
	How about this?
	Tell me a guy.
	We'll do this for the men.
	Tell me a man who you think is a nine.
	I like Ryan Reynolds.
	Ryan Reynolds.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Jackson Dart.
	And Jackson Dart, if you're watching, hit me up.
	I think I saw some of your tweets for your TikTok.
	I definitely did.
	You kind of simp for.
	I don't know who that is, though.
	Oh, he's the quarterback on the Giants currently.
	The quarterback?
	Yeah, the quarterback.
	Ryan Reynolds, Jackson Dart.
	Like a celebrity-wise, I can't.
	He's a 10.
	I can't think of a male 10.
	I said my ex because I feel like he's a 10.
	Your ex is a 10.
	Yeah.
	Can we get a pic?
	Pull him up.
	You can't.
	No celebrity, though.
	I can't show him, but yeah.
	I feel like I'm not attracted to celebrities.
	By the way, does anybody find it?
	I can't believe I'm bringing it back to this.
	A little bit.
	Wait, never mind.
	Never mind.
	Why not say it?
	Speak your truth.
	Well, no, it's just.
	Speak your truth.
	You have no masters tattooed here, but you just completely submitted.
	Oh, you just gave me.
	Wow, I'm going to make you cross out that tattoo.
	Oh, dude, get a sharp.
	Property of Brian, you're going to tattoo on your neck.
	Yeah, right here.
	Actually, you're going to put a line through that.
	Scratch that.
	You're going to tattoo.
	Scratch that property of Brian on your neck.
	Is that what I have to do, Daddy?
	Oh, my God.
	I prefer sir or master, but I don't know the daddy thing.
	I feel like sir or master.
	What were you saying?
	Oh, no, I have the guy in my head.
	Yeah, the guy?
	His name?
	Okay, you're going to judge me.
	Who?
	Jimmy Fallon.
	He was like my first celebrity crush.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	You like goofy guys.
	I told you.
	Yeah.
	Like Maxim Marco.
	Well, when he was young, he's not a bad looking guy.
	He's really attractive.
	All right, Nick, let's pull them up.
	Let's pull them up.
	So we got Ryan Reynolds, Jackson, Jason, Dart, Dart.
	Yes.
	Just look at quarterback of the Jets.
	Have you slid into his DMs?
	No, but I'm a storyliner.
	You're a storyliner.
	Yes, I'm a storyliner.
	Okay.
	One day.
	The Jets?
	No, the Giants.
	Oh, Joe.
	The New York Giants.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I'm a big fan of the New York Giants, so I'm like biased, but yeah.
	And he's also my age.
	So that's.
	How old is he?
	22.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	He shares a birthday with my friend.
	Well, I guess that makes mentality.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Do we have the photo?
	Yeah, that first picture is.
	He's so ugly.
	Click on that one, and then go to the Wikipedia page.
	I love it.
	Go to the Wikipedia page.
	He's ugly.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Scroll down, scroll down.
	Well, they sure didn't.
	Wait, click on the photo?
	Click on that.
	Jets picture.
	Damn.
	Yeah, right.
	The main one.
	Just click on that photo.
	And then scroll down.
	Bless his heart.
	Oh, never mind.
	That's okay.
	Ryan Reynolds seems like the type of, like, I don't know if that picture is just him trolling.
	That'd be funny.
	I don't know.
	OK, so that's your, OK.
	And then let's get the football guy.
	And then we'll skip Jimmy Fallon.
	Jimmy Fallon's going to be like, beautiful.
	Oh, he's good looking.
	Yeah, thank you.
	He's a good looking man.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so he's.
	Oh, yeah, really.
	So just to be clear, so okay, I guess we'll start with you then, since it's more.
	Do you think that that is you're a nine, he's a nine?
	That's your league.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	That's your looks equivalent.
	Yes.
	Take away the status.
	Take away the status, of course.
	Really quick, Nick.
	I hate to do this at this moment.
	Pull up her TikTok.
	You probably know the one.
	You had a glow up.
	I'm going to get you had a glow up.
	Wait, no, you're pulling up an old one.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	Don't worry about it.
	No.
	No audio because it's music.
	I don't know the one.
	I've been going to the glow up.
	Nope.
	Next one.
	It's the ugly one.
	I know I've had the ugly one.
	Yeah, period.
	I know I was ugly.
	I feel like I've seen those men are getting more evil for you.
	I know I was ugly.
	Guys, I know.
	I know I was ugly.
	Oh, you're cute.
	That was sad, guys.
	Can you click it?
	Too fucking real.
	Yeah, I was sad.
	Your lashes look amazing.
	And your brows damn.
	Thank you.
	There you go.
	I think it.
	You got a swipe.
	It's like pictures.
	It's not like a video.
	Yeah, like swipe.
	It's the next picture.
	I didn't see those.
	Wait.
	The other one?
	Otherwise, it looks so dirty.
	Anyways, follow me, that bitch Lexi.
	That bitch Lexi.
	Y'all see it?
	That bitch Lexi.
	Yeah.
	Can you pull up the photo of the dude again?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, Jackson.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	i don't look like that anymore so yeah using the worst photo versus y'all want to just You could do better than him.
	No, no, I cannot.
	I think you can.
	Thank you.
	I think that's a solid take.
	Like, I don't think that's $3 equally yoked.
	Yeah.
	I think you could.
	Like, take away the status.
	Thank you.
	Thank you guys.
	Well, okay, so like looks, but like in totality, are you his league or no?
	No, I'm not famous.
	And men don't really care about that, though.
	I don't know what the equivalent is.
	don't know i mean i'm not like well they I mean, like, I'm not like a model.
	So, like, I don't think a football NFL quarterback wants to date an average girl in college.
	Why?
	I'm surprised.
	What?
	I thought you were not.
	What?
	No, but like, just like, no, but I mean, like, averagely, because it's like, I don't have a status.
	Like, men don't care about that.
	I think you can.
	Yeah, I do.
	I do.
	I think we're putting in the same room together.
	You could do it.
	I could pull.
	You could do it.
	Personality too.
	I could pull.
	Wait, when you say pull, what do you mean?
	I could pull.
	Like, have sex with him?
	No, I could, like, talk to him.
	I could, like, I could, like, I could, like, connect.
	Yeah, I could connect.
	I could connect.
	Okay, secure that.
	I mean, I think women's threshold for success, like just having sex with, I don't think having sex with a guy is pulling a guy.
	We're not.
	I think getting a guy into a relationship is pulling a guy.
	That's facts.
	That's fair.
	Because, like, you can sleep with anybody, really.
	Is that the standard that guys have for us?
	When they say that they pull girls, do they mean like they're dating a lot of people?
	I think it's different.
	So I think sex.
	Well, yeah, so I would say that, well, I think if a guy can have sex with a woman, he can, again, when I'm talking here, I'm talking in generalities.
	So if a guy can have sex with a woman, I believe that he has a high probability, a high capacity if he wants a relationship.
	I think he can get her into a relationship.
	Generally speaking, of course, there's instances where, okay, the girl, she just wants to fuck and whatever.
	I think that, I think women just wanting to fuck is, but even that is less common, is more rare than men just wanting to fuck.
	That's more common.
	So I think, like, for example, for me, if I can sleep with a girl, I have a strong level of confidence that I can get her into a relationship.
	And you guys can think back to your own experiences.
	I don't think women can be as confident in this regard.
	If you can sleep with a man, how confident are you that you can get him into a relationship?
	I mean, men will sleep with anything.
	That's what I said.
	Literally, men would fuck a hole.
	You got to point that out.
	But even then, even if you think you're dealing with a guy who's on your lead or whatever, do you feel like if you sleep with him, are you really confident that you can get that guy into a relationship?
	No.
	If we're compassionate.
	No, huh.
	There's someone who's like, I don't think men look for relationships like that, though.
	Yeah, men are not.
	There's no.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Like, if he does the right thing, if he follows these certain cues, then it's like, okay, well, maybe he does want to have something more.
	You know, he's like, oh, you know, you call me Uber or you want to go on a second date or you text me the next day telling me how much fun you had.
	Like, I don't know.
	There's like qualifying factors.
	But like the same thing is true.
	But I think when it comes, if we're using the term pull, I think a man pulling a woman, that's just sleeping with her.
	You pulled her.
	What the hell, Brian?
	As a woman, when you pull a guy, it's not just you fucked him.
	It means you got him in a relationship.
	You got him in a relationship.
	No, you didn't pull him.
	That's not, that's not.
	How deep does the relationship have to be for this to be a qualifying factor?
	I feel like this is a qualitative analysis.
	Monogamy.
	What if it's for a month and it's a situationship?
	Yeah.
	That's not the threshold for success for women.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So a monogamous relationship is the threshold for women.
	You want monogamy.
	But penetration is the only threshold for men for success.
	Correct.
	You pulled her if you penetrated her, I suppose.
	That's a pull.
	You pulled.
	Okay.
	Hey, it is what it is.
	It is what it is.
	Hey, I don't make the rules.
	Don't shoot the messenger.
	Were we looking at, we looked at, okay.
	But you think you could pull him, I guess?
	I don't know.
	You could get him.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about Jimmy Fallon?
	You look at Jimmy.
	Are we leaving Jimmy out of this?
	Yeah.
	Related to this football guy.
	How, like, I feel like you're pining over this guy.
	This is the only celebrity crush I've ever had in my life.
	So yeah.
	I've never.
	He should date you.
	Period.
	Yeah, he should date you.
	Yeah, I just, but it's like the aura.
	Like, if you took all that away, like, I mean, I just love the Giants.
	Got Giants.
	No, you should just.
	Go big blue.
	Why don't you slide in his DMs and remove all doubt?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I think you should.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	I think you should.
	Okay.
	Well, he's kind of like talking to a girl and I was like, oh, shut him up, Brian.
	Pause the flipping tie for me.
	But if you have a single, then you can hit me up.
	Okay, well.
	Anyways.
	I don't know, man.
	I think you should support me in my endeavors, Brian.
	I would love to see women being a bit more realistic with their looks ratings.
	I'd love to see that.
	What would you rate yourself?
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know if I forgot to...
	I give myself a 4.75.
	Done.
	4.75, you know.
	What's with the minutiae?
	What's with the 7.5?
	What's with the 0.25?
	I think the primary thing holding me back is I just need to lose weight.
	I think that's, I could get up to it.
	Like, if I got fit, I think I could be a six.
	If I got fit, I would definitely be a six.
	But.
	Have you tried intermittent fasting?
	Where you just narrow, like you only eat within an eight-hour window?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I've tried that.
	I, yeah.
	Also, you think we're all so far off?
	Like, what do you think we all are then?
	Oh, I mean, I don't make it a habit to rate people.
	Oh, come on, Brian.
	I'll do it with permission.
	You don't think I could.
	Well, Jimmy Fellen has a wife.
	I'll give you guys genuine.
	Yeah, I don't give a rate.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll submit to your rating.
	She'll do it.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	I don't care.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Okay.
	It's real.
	Everybody else too that I want to.
	Do you want me to care?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yes.
	Sure.
	Yes.
	Well, I mean, if you don't want me to do it, just say it and I won't.
	Sure seems a bit.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Enthusiastic consent.
	No, I'm good.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So.
	You can rate me too, Brian.
	You want to get rated?
	Yeah.
	Throw him in there.
	Yeah, throw him in there.
	I need to start learning all the looks max or terms or something.
	So I'll start with the guy.
	I'll start with the guy.
	I'll start with the guy.
	About to get scrutinized.
	You're a handsome guy.
	You're a handsome guy.
	Great.
	This is going to sound super gay, but fuck it, whatever.
	You have.
	He's watching this.
	You have a good, I'm looking in the screen.
	Oh, he's looking at you.
	Yeah, you're a good looking guy, man.
	Good eyebrows.
	You have equal thirds.
	You have equal.
	You have a good remus.
	You have a good jawline.
	You have a masculine jawline.
	You have...
	Look towards me.
	Yeah, man.
	He's a good looking guy.
	Fuck.
	I can't even think.
	I can't even, like, off the top of my head, think of any flaws here.
	You gotta think.
	This is great, bro.
	Yo!
	What the fuck?
	He nerd is riding you.
	Oh, he's turning pink.
	Are we doing just face or body too?
	Yeah, what are we?
	I'm per, like, this is more so just an aesthetic thing.
	I'm not a fan of the center part.
	Yeah, actually, that's not my favorite, but that's just like aesthetic preference or whatever.
	I think we need to bring more of the hair a little bit forward.
	But are you doing just a little bit?
	I think the only, honestly, like the only flaw I see would be you could have like slightly fuller lips.
	Okay.
	And look, as somebody who has, I, like, you're both your bottom and your top lip are a bit on the thin side.
	Absent that, like, I can't actually think of really any criticisms.
	I could put you, you into like a face looks maxing thing.
	Like, get off.
	Let me see, Terren.
	I think perhaps you're, oh my God, bro.
	What's it called?
	I'm going to start learning these terms so I can like give the people actually good looks ratings or whatever.
	I think there's a slightly the gap between your eyes.
	Like way more intense than I thought.
	Those are way more intense than that.
	The interpupillary, your interpupillary difference is a little bit off, but otherwise, dude, you're a solid.
	I think you're a solid like 7.5 to be honest.
	I'll take it.
	Solid 7.5.
	Oh, the skills.
	Solid 7.5 men.
	Damn, I didn't have anyone that intense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Maybe even like 7.75.
	I don't know.
	What does the chat rate him?
	I don't know.
	7.7.
	That's going to rate me out.
	Chat.
	What do you rate him?
	Chat.
	Chat.
	What do you rate?
	Giga chat.
	Chat.
	I rate him chat.
	Was I glazing?
	Hello.
	Glazing.
	Eight.
	He's an eight.
	Hella glaze.
	I'll take it.
	I'll take it.
	Well, I kind of said 7.75.
	No, I said 7.5.
	I'm pretty sure.
	We rate you, Brian, as gay.
	That's a compliment.
	You're winning.
	My next victim.
	I don't know if you're signed up for that in-depth.
	Yeah, I was like, maybe like a quick, you know, one-two.
	Yeah, like that.
	Let's see here.
	I already know the go-to's.
	So a bit of, I would say, one thing is your skin, like the complexion could use a bit of improvement.
	I'll give you some compliments too, though.
	Are you pursing your lips or just being your lips?
	They're chapped.
	Decent lips, although it could be a little bit fuller.
	I think the face, the face shape is decent ramus, decent projection on the lower third, but you have unequal, lower, you have unequal thirds, so your forehead, your forehead is a bit large.
	You also do have a bit of an aquiline, a large nose.
	I also have a large nose, and it's something I do notice about myself and other people.
	Typically, even I think large noses sometimes can look okay on men, although I personally, I don't personally like my nose, but I think especially is the case for women.
	Some men can get away with a big nose, but I think for women, definitely a large nose.
	You're going to have a ton of large nose, kind of a, you know, it's a bit bulbous.
	There's a bit of a hump.
	I also have a hump.
	Don't worry.
	I love my nose.
	I love my nose.
	Let's see here.
	Pale.
	You're a bit pale.
	So I think that's very, you're very pale.
	I mean, that is going to correspond.
	I think you have natural valerian blonde dragon master hair.
	I love it, yeah.
	So there's that.
	And you kind of do have dragon nostrils.
	I'll take it.
	Shit.
	You don't even need to rate me.
	I'll just leave with that.
	Yeah, you have it.
	You can stop there.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I like it getting called like Daenerys.
	You have the Valerian that.
	I think this isn't actually anything to do with your actual looks, but I think generally speaking, I don't think men really enjoy the piercings.
	They're the perfect deterrence.
	Especially already having, you know, I think having the, you know, having a big nose, I think it's going to draw some you're sort of almost highlighting that.
	So am I being autistic right now?
	Probably.
	A little bit, but I love it.
	But this isn't like as an attack.
	I'm just whatever.
	I have talked a lot about my nose on my TikTok because I've gotten so many hate comments.
	Every time I just get so many hate comments, and I've been bullied for it, and I was going to get a nose job, and right before I was actually going to have a sugar daddy pay for it, he offered, I didn't even fucking ask.
	I love my nose, and actually, I have nose-fetish people.
	So on Tom, I get people who pay me because they find my nose so attractive.
	So I'm okay with it.
	Yeah, I've always wondered where all the women who like big noses are.
	But anyways, as somebody who has a big nose, but I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
	The thirds, I think I talked about the thirds.
	I think I got the eyebrows.
	The eyebrows could be a little more pronounced.
	The shape is good, but they're a bit on.
	I mean, well, it's also just your hair color, too.
	They're a bit light.
	Okay, ready?
	What the hell?
	Wait, no, I didn't get a number.
	You didn't get it.
	Oh, oh, duh.
	That's like the one thing I'm not.
	That was the only thing we were actually going to do.
	Okay, I know we were attacking that part.
	I'm pretty comfortable giving you, I think, either a five or a 4.8.
	All right.
	4.8.
	I still think I'm a nine, but I got it.
	I'd say you're like average looking.
	And that's not an insult, but at least you're not like you're fucking ugly.
	Just coming from a 4.
	Yeah, like I'll be okay.
	4.7, by the way.
	All right, for you.
	For you, do you want just the rating, or should I give you like the breakdowns?
	I don't know.
	You did it for them.
	I don't think so.
	If you're going to do it for everyone else, too.
	Like, okay.
	Yeah, so your interpupillary distance is a bit off.
	Like, you don't.
	Whatever the fault is.
	I don't know if you pluck your eyebrows, but very much.
	Do you draw them on?
	No, I don't.
	I think you should just shut them.
	I think you should just go natural with the eyebrows.
	I mean, you can shape them, but I don't think the draw.
	I think drawing on, I don't know.
	I don't take it off.
	I'm not a fan.
	You have unequal facial thirds, so you have a your midface is a bit like mid-face.
	So when we're talking about when we're talking about facial thirds, it's like mouth down, mouth to eyes, and eyes to top of forehead.
	So you have a long mid-face a little bit.
	Long mid-face would be like eyes to mouth.
	So like the center.
	Your center third is you have nice teeth.
	You have a nice smile.
	Lips, actually, very good.
	That's a positive characteristic.
	You have your lower third is actually.
	Can you turn your head?
	You have a, you have a have you had any like no, I have like you have good really defined cheekbones.
	You have good cheekbones, good jawline, good jawline.
	Maybe a slight, what's the term?
	Like down tilt?
	Campo tilt.
	Oh, yeah.
	Negative.
	I think you might have negative canthel tilt.
	On the eyes.
	Can you face it turn that way?
	This way?
	To her?
	Yeah, have you.
	Nose job or nose job?
	Yes, nose job.
	That's crazy.
	Like, corrective.
	I wouldn't want to be able to pick up.
	Really, thank you.
	I really wanted it natural.
	Like, I didn't want it to be like.
	It looks really good.
	Anything crazy?
	I don't think it looks botched or anything.
	Yeah.
	I think it looks good, but it was corrective.
	You had like a deviated septum.
	I had a deviated septum.
	And I was on Accutane for my acne.
	If you look at my old TikToks, like you can see.
	And it shrunk my nose, actually, which is why I'm always congested too.
	Is because, yeah, it shrunk my nose, like canals, and they were too small with the deviated septum.
	That my nose wouldn't drain and I would get sinus affections.
	I had a deviated septum surgery too.
	You definitely, like that previous photo, you definitely looks maxed.
	You did some looks maxing.
	In that photo, you had a bit of like under-eye area.
	And I don't know if you've had that treated or whatever.
	I use a cream.
	But maybe there's still a bit of that lingering a little bit, but otherwise.
	Yeah, so I'd give you a 5.75, maybe a 6.
	Okay.
	Maybe a 6.
	5.756.
	I think chat, what do you think?
	Chat.
	Chat says I'm a bit generous or whatever.
	Okay.
	But they gave it an 8.
	I think the chat's a little gay.
	It's okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	5.756.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so you...
	Are you wearing a wig?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So is your hair tied up or do you have a buzzed head?
	I have hair.
	It's not tied up, though.
	It's short enough that I can just.
	Do you want to take the wig off or?
	No.
	No, don't make a do that.
	Do it.
	Do it.
	No, that's crazy.
	So obviously, I would say probably the.
	You want the rating?
	I mean, do I have to take my wig off to get the rating?
	No, you don't have to.
	Okay.
	You can leave them.
	Okay.
	So, okay, the facial tattoos, that's going to have like an impact.
	But I'll try to give you a rating, kind of like ignoring the facial tat, the face tattoos.
	I think, generally speaking, most people have an aesthetic inclination against face tattoos.
	Do you pluck your eyebrows?
	Yeah.
	Like they're drawn on?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So if you were to wipe that off, the eyebrows are gone.
	Pretty much, yeah.
	I think natural eyebrows, even if you, you know, line them a little bit or whatever, I think it's superior to completely drawn on eyebrows.
	You do have nice blue eyes.
	You're a little bit, I would say slightly.
	Although you've had lip filler, right?
	A tad, yeah.
	A tad.
	What about in the bottom lip or just the top lip or both?
	Both.
	Both.
	Okay.
	Personally, I'm not a fan of lip filler.
	It's just moisturizer.
	It literally is hyaluronic acid, which is a moisturizer.
	They're just putting it inside and on the top.
	That's literally what lip filler.
	No, I'm just telling you.
	Doesn't tell us to get lip filler, too.
	Yeah, so I would say.
	Naturally, when I was younger, see, I'm 33.
	Well, you're 33, right?
	Yeah, so I'm about a decade older than most everyone at the table.
	I don't know how old you are, but you know, when I was younger, I have very full lips.
	I had very everything.
	You know, as you get older, you do have to contend with things.
	You're talking about this.
	I don't know if your lips thin over time.
	Absolutely.
	Are you kidding me?
	That's one of the biggest signs of aging is thinning lips.
	Look it up.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	That's why women get that's why the fillers are called juvaderm to give you the juven.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	To give you the juve.
	I guess to continue the rating, though, I think you don't have equal facial thirds.
	So I think not quite as pronounced as her.
	You have a bit of a longer, slightly longer midface.
	You do have a bit of a bulbous, you have a bigger nose.
	A little bit.
	Right?
	It's okay.
	I have a big nose too.
	Have you had a nose job?
	Absolutely not.
	Okay.
	You think if I got a nose job, I would get this nose?
	Well, I mean, maybe there was a hump, but you got rid of it.
	That's the only thing that I would change.
	But you want to know what?
	I had a consultation for a nose job, and the doctor told me, he's like, you have very balanced proportional features.
	He's like, this is the risk.
	This is like, you know, how much you would benefit from it.
	And we ended up saying no, because it was like, I'm not, I'm kind of, you know.
	Yeah.
	You become content with your features after a certain amount of time too.
	I think, well, for me as a woman, you know, especially after getting the juvederm and my skincare and all that.
	Like, no, I'm saying it was a process.
	Like, when I was younger, I had a, I had a very low self-esteem when I was younger.
	I used to think like, oh, I hate my nose.
	I hate everything about my features, my hair.
	I hate everything.
	But then you realize like as you get older, especially as a woman, you have control over a lot of those things.
	Like you could throw on a wig.
	You could put a little makeup on.
	I support men doing the same thing.
	I honestly do.
	You'd be surprised how many men confide in me.
	I wish I could have surgery on this.
	I wish I could do this.
	They can, I guess.
	But society is.
	I guess it depends what, but I guess just to move things on, though, I'll just finish up with the thing or whatever.
	So, I mean, I think it is a bit more normal for, you know, you don't expect like super giga like jawline.
	Women typically more round, softer features is more, can be more, like, it can be more the aesthetic, but also I think women with more, like sharper, more defined features can also still be attractive even in the feminine way.
	But I do think perhaps like the lower third, maybe a little, could be a bit more, I don't know if it's a recessed maximum.
	You know, but anyways, I would say, and maybe the under eye area, but that's going to be normal with aging, you know, whatever.
	But yeah, I would say overall, it's hard to say.
	I think you are wearing quite a bit of makeup.
	Do you have fake lashes in?
	You're wearing, so it's a bit hard to give a super accurate rating.
	I'm going to go ahead and give you a, I'll go ahead and give you 4.75 to 5.
	Okay, well, 4.75 to 5.
	5.25.
	You put me on your level.
	He's rating on his own scale of.
	I think you're scrutinizing a little bit harder than I am.
	But I, you know, compared to your own rating of yourself, like...
	Four points, I suggest.
	We're going to have to go lower on that one, though.
	We're going to do in his category.
	Yeah, we're going to have to.
	We're going to have to change that a bit.
	Yeah, if we scale needs to be adjusted a little bit.
	If I had used your scale, well, first of all, I wouldn't have gave you a 4.75, first of all.
	Okay, what would you give me?
	On my own scale, I would not scrutinize you the way that you screwed up.
	Oh, well, you guys asked me to do it.
	But like, in a looks magazine weight.
	But like, if I was going to judge you just based off of like what I would judge, you know, like a man out in the wild.
	Like if I saw you at a bar and I was like, hmm.
	Am I going to talk to this guy or not?
	Oh, so the binary?
	Okay.
	Well, what's the rating that you would use?
	I would give you at least a seven.
	I'd give you a seven.
	I think that's generous.
	She's like, no.
	No, no, no, but tell them your age.
	Not on this scale, whatever it's like.
	That's important.
	If I was going to use your scale, I might do something a little bit lower, but based off of my scale, thinking about terms of why I gave myself a 10, I would, on that same scale, I'd give you a seven.
	I think you're being a bit generous, but thank you, I guess.
	Okay, so moving on.
	I'm just trying to throw more money at you.
	Moving on to you.
	And by the way, I'm not so broken.
	I'm not saying these things like as an attack on you guys.
	I'm just, these are just.
	I'm going to cry myself to sleep.
	These are just my observations.
	No, no.
	He's on the same level, isn't it?
	Now I am going to cry.
	Tell me, like, this is false news today.
	Are you upset by this, by the way?
	Oh, no.
	I just think it's very funny because based on, like, you're saying that we're all essentially on the same level as you and each other.
	I think I gave you...
	That's very similar, though.
	I gave you a... 5.75, which is one point higher than you are.
	I don't know.
	No, I said that was 4.75.
	I know, and you said 5.75.
	You think I have one point higher than Brad?
	Come on.
	I think there's an age component a little bit too.
	Who would you give a 9?
	Like, you're celebrity 9.
	Like, what's your celebrity 9?
	Ariana Grande.
	She's a 10, though.
	Not my type.
	Well, maybe we can get to that later after I finish up the ratings.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, I mean, I don't know if you're just a stoner or that's how your eyes naturally look like.
	I'm sober.
	I don't know.
	You just have the lashes on the inner corner.
	I know, I know, I am.
	You have the permafriend thing with your eyes a little bit.
	I know, I know.
	Like, you look stones, but you're not.
	So I don't know if that's like whatever, but you do have your eye color is actually quite striking, so you have that going on.
	Eyebrows are good.
	A little bit of a round, face a bit on the round side.
	Skin could use a bit of improvement.
	The nose, a little shape-wise, you have a bit of a hook nose or whatever.
	What's that?
	You do use lip filler, I believe.
	No, no, no.
	It all dissolved.
	I haven't gotten in a while.
	Oh, but you have had lip filler in the past.
	One time, but it still impacts the lip filler.
	But I will say, my lips don't look different from pre-lip filler.
	I guess you just have to see it to believe it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	But it basically dissolved at this point.
	Okay.
	So your teeth are nice.
	Nice smile.
	I don't know how your lips were naturally before the lip filler, but they are full currently.
	They're piercing.
	Yeah, that's full.
	I like it.
	Maybe you could work on a bit of a tan.
	A tan?
	You're a bit pale.
	It's okay.
	I'm pale too.
	Don't worry.
	Yeah.
	I would say I would change the hairstyle a little bit too.
	Okay, okay.
	I'll respect that.
	I got told that the other day.
	But I want to say.
	I give you five.
	Oh, okay.
	Is that the real question?
	Oh, man.
	Am I asking?
	Yeah.
	Do I just, I feel like I'm taking this segment's taking way too long.
	It's so long.
	It's going into real good detail, man.
	He's writing the 12-page novel.
	He's writing a 12-page letter to each of us.
	Genuinely.
	Too long.
	Didn't read.
	Sorry, buddy.
	I'm not going to rate Mary because she works for me.
	What's chat say?
	What's chat say I?
	Chat, what do you rate her?
	I never got a chat rate too.
	Four at best, somebody said a solid two.
	Okay, she's not a two.
	Be nice.
	Um, I don't know.
	I look, these aren't accurate.
	I'm not trying to be super, super precise with it.
	Four, I think.
	The tattoo, I'm trying to just do fate, like face.
	So, I, these guys are going to downrank you because of the tattoos and stuff.
	I thought so.
	I thought I'm also not like considering body in this rating.
	Yeah, I'm just doing face.
	Um, so I don't know.
	Maybe I'm being generous for everybody.
	I don't know.
	Wow.
	Brian's 100 years of solitude.
	I actually have that book here.
	Um, so I don't know.
	Oh, I have that book too.
	I'm not.
	Okay.
	Uh, just to wrap it up, I'll just give you the rating or whatever.
	Um, I'd give you like a uh, I don't know.
	I don't typically, it's like we don't have many black girls on the show.
	I was waiting for you to say it, dude.
	What the hell?
	So, no, I feel like I'm not as I'm not you're being put on the spot, whatever you say.
	Uh, because I feel like you almost have to look at it like you could look at it in totality, but you could also look at it like amongst their race or amongst the race, like looking at it from like a Eurocentric point of view versus like well, like, how do you stack up like in comparison to other black women, basically?
	What do you think?
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I said I thought I'm average, so I think I'm average.
	Oh, but with his take, like, I think you should have a lot of people.
	Like, it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, I'd say four.
	Okay, four, yeah.
	Okay, you're beautiful as a woman.
	We all got weird ratings, huh?
	The girls have turned on me at this point.
	I think they're low.
	Like, you think you're in the same league as everybody at this table is.
	Yeah, that's a dangerous position, Brian.
	That's within a point of this table.
	How crazy, to be fair, I mean, I can do like a criticism of my own looks.
	Like, definitely skin issues.
	I have like I think it like mild caboric dermatitis.
	So, I have like skin.
	I have, yes.
	Well, I'm just rating myself.
	I have like skin flakiness.
	I have some redness.
	I have a big nose.
	Definitely.
	Could work on your eyebrows.
	Could work on the eyebrows.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I'll do that.
	I'll take it under your eyes.
	Well, I'm serious.
	Hyaluronic acid.
	If they could be shaped, you know what I mean?
	Okay, I'll work on the eyebrows.
	Thank you.
	No, it's a compliment.
	Poor under eye area, big nose.
	Twin.
	Yeah.
	Hair for my age, to be fair, I think, is doing well.
	No, yeah.
	Within a couple years, I'm probably going to start losing a little bit of it.
	I would say, what else?
	I think you trimmed your beard underneath.
	Probably like slightly weak lower third.
	He's beard fishing.
	Yeah, beard.
	It's actually a toupe.
	If you see photos, I mean, it's jawline's not terrible, but jawline not like stunning.
	And whatever these are, but that's like mostly fat or whatever.
	Dimples.
	And yeah.
	Are you talking about under eye area?
	Where did you point to?
	Huh?
	Oh, the like, I forgot what this is called, but like I have like I've a fatty face just because I'm fat at the moment.
	So I got lose weight.
	Big thing, lose weight.
	And yeah, I think, yeah.
	We believe in you.
	Pale.
	I'm pale.
	Otherwise, like decent facial harmony, decent facial symmetry, but otherwise, yeah.
	And I have a I have a bit more of a, I don't have, I'm not like Giga Chat over here.
	He's got, yeah, you know, so okay, anyways, whatever.
	Um, what Brian, Brian, you could be my first.
	Wow, he's playing.
	I appreciate the geeking.
	Look at that smile.
	Go get him.
	Damn, he wants you bad, Brian.
	He wants you bad.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, boy.
	He wants you bad.
	You guys have had a bit of a flirtation tonight.
	You're single.
	He's single.
	He tried to risk me.
	Did you remember single?
	Yes, you did.
	Do you guys recall that?
	Shit.
	I did this.
	Oh, no.
	You came with a girlfriend.
	Do you want to set your girlfriend up?
	I don't know.
	You were talking about football players.
	Do you play football?
	You kind of look like.
	Football.
	Do you play football?
	The only balls here.
	The real football.
	Like soccer.
	Soccer.
	Soccer.
	Real ball.
	All right.
	Oh, boy.
	Football in some places.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Let's blast through all the reactions super quick.
	So.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	We'll do that.
	Then we'll do that then.
	Okay, so really quick question going around the table.
	Do you think you'll look be better looking, just looks, in 10 years' time?
	Would be nice.
	Well, I understand it would be nice, but what do you think?
	I have no idea.
	I think I look pretty good now.
	It's hard to improve on perfection.
	By the way, guys, stay tuned because once we finish up this section, we got other notes, but we're going to get into.
	I'm debating her.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Better in 10 years?
	I'll say no.
	Okay.
	You're 22.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Yeah, I'm going to keep looks Maxim.
	There you go.
	Looks Maxin.
	Well, assuming no surgery or whatever, better looking at 32.
	Yeah, I'm going to keep looks, Maxin.
	42 better looking?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 33 better looking at 43?
	I think 30s are peak.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think.
	So 43 better looking?
	I'm going to be less.
	Okay.
	And then were you better looking at 23?
	Oh, I was worse.
	Worse.
	Way worse.
	Really?
	Yeah, I look way better than you.
	Were you fat or something?
	No.
	I look way better than I did in my 20s because I was like really insecure.
	And so it made me not take care of myself.
	It made me not think of myself as an attractive.
	So I looked up.
	But better looking now.
	You're 19, better looking at 29?
	Yes.
	39?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 32 better looking at 42?
	No.
	And then were you better looking at 22?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	And then you're 22.
	You're 22?
	Turning 23 on Christmas.
	Wait, you're 22?
	Yeah.
	I'm turning 23 on Christmas.
	Happy early birthday.
	What?
	What the hell?
	What's that supposed to mean?
	Don't worry about it.
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 32?
	Speak your truth.
	What the hell?
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 32?
	Probably not.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have put all of you through AI.
	Oh, no.
	We've aged all of you.
	What drugs did you do, by the way?
	Not today, but Brian!
	That's not very nice.
	V. Everything except for heroin.
	Did you do anything that you injected into you?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so like smoke, consume.
	Yeah, I'd say smoke.
	Snort.
	Snorted.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Good sense.
	I know that was a nose comment because I get it all the time.
	Okay, cool.
	Let's do the AI.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Cute.
	What are the ages on this?
	Is that what she's supposed to look like at 30?
	No, there's no way.
	She looks so cute, though.
	I look like my mom.
	Can you make us bigger now?
	I feel like you're going to make like a potion.
	Honestly, I'll take that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, a milk.
	There she goes.
	Okay.
	That middle one is a straight milk.
	Yeah, dude.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	You will be the PTA mom that all dude, you're going to drive some motherfuckers wild.
	I look like my mom.
	I love it.
	Shout out, mom.
	Shout out, mom.
	Yeah.
	Does that look like your mom?
	Middle one, yeah.
	Middle one?
	Yeah, okay.
	It's funny how they turned your hair into a scarf.
	Wait, question.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're going to get right back to this, but it just popped up into my mind.
	Was anybody here born not in the United States?
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	You?
	Where?
	Kenya.
	Kenya.
	So did you.
	When did you move to the United States?
	When I was four.
	When you were four?
	Do you have Kenyan citizenship?
	Yes, but I have American citizenship.
	If the United States went to war with Kenya, assuming it's a morally neutral, blameless scenario, where do your loyalties lie?
	Dude, what?
	With America, actually, because it would never be morally.
	You said morally blameless.
	Yeah, there's not like.
	Well, knowing the government there and knowing how things are, like with the people in power, I would not side with them.
	So, yeah, the hypothetical would just be it's completely neutral.
	Neither country's the aggressor.
	Neither has done anything unethical.
	There's no moral dimension to it.
	Just a conflict that exists.
	In that value-neutral scenario, which side would you support?
	Kenya or the United States?
	I'll stick with the U.S. Stick with the U.S.
	Okay.
	What about you, Brian?
	Aren't you French or yeah?
	I was born in France.
	My loyalties are to the United States.
	Do you have double nationality?
	I have dual citizenship.
	Yes.
	Now, to be clear, I feel like the way I maybe phrased it before makes it seem like, oh, I don't, fuck France or whatever.
	Like, obviously, I want good for France.
	If France was in a conflict with some other nation, like, I don't know, France went to war with, I don't know, Morocco or Algeria or some bullshit.
	I would like, then I'd be like, yes, cheering for France.
	But if France went to war with the United States, there was a war, I would side with the United States.
	Does anybody here, like, are their parents immigrants?
	Yes.
	Germany.
	Germany?
	Chile.
	Chile.
	Question for you.
	If the United States went to war with Chile, where do your loyalties lie?
	United States.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Back to the age thing.
	I don't know.
	It just pops into my fucking mouth.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Side quest.
	Where were we?
	Where were we?
	Age.
	Oh, her, yes.
	Okay, we're ready for that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, cutie.
	Wait.
	She's going to get done at the strip club.
	Fans will make good dance.
	Yeah, million.
	Looks great.
	It's funny that I gave you a shirt out of.
	Wait, go back.
	Can I see what they do to my chest?
	They turned her hair into a scarf.
	They gave your chest a shirt.
	Oh, you're cute too.
	Oh.
	Wait.
	Wait, wait.
	Oh, okay.
	It's right.
	What's the fuck?
	All right, all right.
	Native American in the last one for some reason.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, whatever.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're so cute, too.
	Nice.
	Next.
	Whoa, why would it go away?
	Why?
	Nothing.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Oh, my God.
	I did not consent to that.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	We really fucking do.
	That is cute.
	Uh-oh.
	That was so cute.
	They did you so dirty.
	You look like Paul McCartney in the last one.
	Why are you like ancient?
	Wait, come on.
	Is the middle supposed.
	No, that's like.
	See, they can't make my hair gray because it looks like Paul McCartney up then.
	All right.
	You look 200 years old.
	In the last one.
	Yeah.
	That's not real.
	Yikes.
	Santa.
	Look at that.
	Tim Allen.
	Fuck with it.
	I like the beard.
	You look like Tim Allen.
	Okay, Santa.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I kind of lie.
	I dig it.
	Okay.
	You could be a great mole, Santa.
	I'm going to do this podcast and it's going to be.
	I'm going to talk to grannies.
	Be like, you fucking in the retirement home, lady.
	What the fuck?
	You got syphilis in the retirement home.
	Did you know AIDS is actually really common in like retirement homes?
	And like SUDs are super common.
	Because of elderly.
	No, it's super common in retirement homes.
	Yeah, they get around.
	I know.
	They literally do.
	Now we've also put you through AI.
	We've made all of you men.
	Ooh.
	So when you're looking at this, the question I want you to answer is: would you date the male version of you?
	You find him attractive, whatever.
	All right.
	Ready?
	Well, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	I look a little bit too much like my dad and my brother, so I'm going to have to pass.
	Yo, W to whoever's in Discord doing these because these are really good.
	I look good.
	The beard is.
	Well, I didn't say that.
	I said what the hell.
	No, I'm not in response.
	I'm just saying.
	I look good, but I look a little bit too much like my dad and my brother.
	I don't know.
	So would you date yes or no?
	Only because it reminds me a little bit too much of my dad and my brother.
	I'm going to have to pass.
	But assuming looks-wise, I will fucking smash.
	Okay, yes.
	Assuming there's not like you're not fucking related and it's incest.
	Well, no, I know, but I also don't date guys that even if they're not related to me, but they look a little bit too much like my father.
	Pasty George.
	Pasty George.
	His name is Horge.
	Y'all know this record?
	He's curious, George.
	But I'm not pushing.
	Pasty George.
	That's Barton's boyfriend.
	He's curious, George.
	Pasty George, he's from Canada.
	Canada.
	He's genocide.
	That's nice.
	Yeah, that's great, pasty.
	Pasty George, he's my Canadian.
	He was really easy to choose Chris.
	Pasty George, he eats maple syrup on its own on its own.
	Straight from the bottle.
	This is Brian's boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	You're right.
	I know.
	It is.
	I know.
	That's right.
	They're always hurting in the truck.
	It's cute.
	I love a little romance.
	Where were we?
	I would smash myself, yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Yo.
	Put him back.
	Okay.
	Uh-oh.
	Okay, Reynolds.
	I don't know.
	I couldn't.
	What's wrong with his eyes?
	That's weird.
	It looks like he has pink eye on the sun.
	Where's his hair?
	What?
	Oh, okay.
	It's not bad.
	That hair is fine.
	That's like Brian Gosling hair.
	I don't know where the beard came from.
	Your male looks like a slut.
	Smash.
	There you go.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	You could get it.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Look, the AI is all.
	You got to do a little bit of term.
	The AI is not going to be perfect, you know, so you got to give it a little bit of wiggle room.
	Next.
	We all got to medically transition.
	Oh, damn.
	That was crazy.
	Damn.
	He's kind of funny.
	Oh, no.
	Let me see.
	Let me see.
	Put him back.
	Yeah, if he's fucking specialette or something.
	Yeah, I would say a little gay.
	Like he's a bit gay.
	That man in hot.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's good looking for a retarded guy.
	I'll give him that, you know.
	Damn, that guy is gay as hell.
	He's good looking for down.
	It's okay.
	Super gay.
	It explains a lot.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, hey.
	Oh, oh, oh, he's cute.
	Yeah, I kind of would date him.
	You look like this one cute.
	Yeah.
	No, I'd have to see him with long hair because I only date guys with like shoulder length or long hair.
	Okay.
	So you only date guys with long hair?
	Yeah.
	Like hippie guys.
	Let me know.
	Why were you doing this?
	Because I was like, oh no.
	Please don't make fun of retarded people.
	That was very high.
	It's only Brian can.
	Next.
	Oh.
	What a bed.
	No?
	No.
	What are you thinking?
	He said, that was weird.
	What do you mean he's cute?
	He just looks weird.
	Do you have a date?
	Like a preference?
	Like, do you prefer to date black guys, white guys?
	I don't really have a preference.
	It's just personality.
	Just personality.
	So you'll date any race.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So no, though.
	Okay.
	He looks like he's on the high school football team.
	Yeah, he does.
	Yeah, he looks like he plays football.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	He's kind of cute.
	All right.
	All right.
	Like Ryan Gosling in the last one.
	Or not gosling.
	Ryan.
	I don't know.
	What?
	Wait, hold on.
	Quiet, quiet, quiet.
	Go ahead and answer.
	Let me see it again.
	Maybe, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	You said probably not, though.
	Probably not, but maybe, but probably not.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm not going to lie.
	He kind of mogs.
	Yeah, dude.
	He looks rich.
	He does.
	What?
	Okay, next.
	What the?
	Actually, he's not that.
	He has any special needs.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, I think that's what I do.
	He does.
	I mean, it's okay.
	He's cute.
	He's cute.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Wait.
	You're so pretty.
	Veronica.
	The photo there, you think he would die all of them.
	Yeah, that's mean.
	Drop these only 100%.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hell yeah.
	Drop this.
	Yes, of course.
	Of course, he gets okay.
	She's giving Trad wife.
	Oh, my God.
	Instant, instant.
	I mean, I don't know if she doesn't have big labia.
	Do you think that your female equivalent would have big labia?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, okay.
	She'd have big labia energy for sure.
	There you go.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	So that's, I think that's it for those.
	Let's do get into some reacts, I guess.
	Or do we, yeah, let's just blast through the reacts.
	We won't linger on any of them for too long, but we can give like super brief commentary.
	Let's just do the next one.
	By the way, guys, like the video if you're enjoying the dream.
	Like the video.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, go ahead and play.
	Oh, I'm hype.
	I talk a lot about celibacy and abstinence on here, and I want to make it very clear every time that I do that I am not slut shaming anybody other than maybe myself for not being slutty enough because I tried very hard to be a slut.
	I really wanted to make it work.
	I still sometimes do.
	It's just not who I am at my core, and that's totally fine.
	I'm too sensitive.
	I'm a relationship girly.
	I would consider myself demisexual.
	And I'm very easy where it's like, if I want to have sex with you and I want to keep having sex with you, I'm going to become attached.
	I'm going to want a relationship.
	I'm going to fall in love.
	That simple.
	If I don't want a relationship with somebody, I'm probably not going to have sex with them or continue having sex with them because I'm not going to find them attractive after a while.
	That simple.
	I am a 24-7, 365 kind of girly.
	I want to do it all the time.
	And I can't just do that with any person.
	And so I could even be poly, but realistically, any number times zero is still zero.
	I'm single.
	I am kind of avoiding like dating stuff because I lose my mind and I am kind of cool just focusing on my studies right now.
	If the right person rolls around, they are going to be very, very lucky.
	I would be an amazing wife.
	But until then, shut the fuck up, okay?
	Shut the fuck up.
	amazing wife wait did we miss the part about you saying that you did we miss the slut part I love it, I feel it Did you say, was that in that video or is that a different That I tried to be a slut?
	You tried to be a slut.
	Is that in that video?
	It's kind of a joke, but you know, I mean, though, to try to be a slut.
	It means that I would like to.
	This guy tried to be a slut.
	He tried.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I didn't mean to interrupt you.
	Oh, good.
	I would like to have sex with people.
	I would like to have a lot of sexual experiences, but I think that I'm just too sensitive at my core.
	And I just, it didn't make me feel good.
	It didn't make me feel like I was.
	What didn't, though?
	What did you do?
	Like.
	Like, did you slut?
	Slut.
	Did you slut?
	I have had sex with people and outside of relationships.
	Wait, what?
	People?
	What do you mean?
	I don't know why.
	As opposed to animals?
	Like, what?
	Well, I'm saying the emphasis being outside of relationships.
	People outside of relationships.
	Sure.
	I believe you.
	Okay.
	I don't know if you do, but that's all right.
	Okay.
	So what does that mean, though?
	Like, you tried to be a slut?
	So, like, did you have a whole phase?
	Is that?
	Yeah, you could call it that.
	Okay.
	So did you have a roster?
	Like, did were you?
	Well, you were also in an open relationship or you tried poly or something?
	I would be open to it.
	I just, I don't really get jealous, so I don't really feel the need to limit that.
	You know, I'm not specifically looking for it, but if it was with the right person, people, whatever, you know.
	Okay.
	Did you ever have a roster?
	You could call it that.
	Like when you were Paulie, how many people were on the roster?
	I haven't been Polly in the past.
	I'm just open to it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Did you date somebody who was Paulie or maybe I'm thinking?
	No, I just have.
	No, no, no.
	I just have friends who are Polly and I think that it's a cool.
	Yeah, sure.
	Let's do the next video.
	Pasty George.
	What up, man?
	W Pasty.
	W Pasty in the chat.
	This guy's a G. He's a Kanin gangster.
	Oh, yes.
	I'm not most of the guys that cannot handle even just a little bit of bush.
	Like, I've gotten so many comments in my Snapchat today.
	They were like, you need to shave.
	And I'm like, you need to grow the fuck up.
	It's literally just a triangle, too.
	Like, you're gonna be okay.
	I don't know.
	I'm not honestly, I'm not a fan of the bush.
	Like, any hair at all.
	Landing strip, triangle, fucking heart, nothing.
	It needs to be bare.
	Oh, I mean, a little bit.
	I mean, okay, so there's like the more so the bush on the pubic area, but then like full by the like the actual.
	You like to see the big laby.
	I like to see the big labyrinth.
	I don't want it to be hidden.
	Don't want it to be hidden.
	But I mean, if there's like a landing strip or whatever, I guess that's fine.
	But I would say that's definitely not like, that's totally fine.
	But if it's, if you're asking me, like, total maximum preference, yeah, like just fully shaved.
	Okay.
	But like, if there's some hair, then whatever.
	Yeah, I think it was because I was like talking about, you know, just having any pubic hair and then the guy, like, guys being like, it needs to be fully fucking bare, like no hair.
	And I'm like, that's gross.
	That's like.
	But if you're like parting the hair to like, yeah, I don't like that for sensory reasons.
	Promised land.
	Yeah.
	You gotta part to get to the promised land.
	Hygiene is good.
	Maintenance is good.
	You can trim it.
	Yeah.
	Is that what you do?
	No, no, I'm bare.
	Because I have a tattoo.
	You have a tattoo?
	What do you tattoo?
	Where's the tattoo?
	It's like the Garden of Eden.
	It's like on the.
	You have the Garden of Eden.
	Excuse me.
	Yeah, it's on my Instagram.
	I don't know.
	Wait, that's sick.
	I mean, it's like it's not my pussy.
	Yeah, kind of.
	Kind of, it's not like inside.
	Well, not inside, but it's.
	Is it on the side of the pussy or above the pussy?
	Kind of like in the cracks.
	I guess.
	I mean, it's like top and kind of on the lips, but not really.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	That is interesting.
	That is, wow.
	That should be, there should be some, you should be studied.
	I know, I know.
	No, no, it's a money maker.
	What am I supposed to say?
	Hell yeah, dude.
	That's cool.
	I love that for you.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	Do any of the women have a preference as it relates to men?
	Do you guys have a bush preference?
	Kind of trimmed.
	Trimmed.
	Yeah.
	Definitely not bad.
	At least trimmed.
	Yeah.
	I don't like it.
	Bare or trimmed.
	Has anybody encountered like a wild jungle bush?
	In person or I guess both.
	It's fucking gross.
	No, bear.
	It's gross.
	Oh, he's walking away.
	You turn guys down for having an explorer.
	Yeah, dude.
	Okay, let's do the next one.
	Oh, it's all next video.
	There's a few.
	The hair can get in.
	Shit, that's just nasty.
	Yeah.
	I never understood men that refuse to go down in women because it smells like fish, as if sushi isn't considered fine dining.
	Like if it smells like rotten fish, that's not normal.
	Go see a doctor.
	But otherwise, just accept that you've got the palate of a five-year-old who refuses to eat anything other than chicken nuggets.
	Okay, so I have my own take, but I'd like to hear from the panel.
	So a guy who doesn't go down on you, is that a deal breaker?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	What was that?
	Jackson Smith or some shit?
	Oh, darling.
	He's like.
	I love you, baby, but not.
	I'll be with you, but I don't eat pussy.
	Deal breaker?
	We'll settle.
	We'll settle.
	She'll accept it.
	It's a red flag for sure.
	Red flag.
	Okay, but not a deal breaker necessarily.
	It is a red flag.
	Red flag.
	Yeah.
	It could potentially be a deal breaker depending on the context.
	Well, I don't know if it's a red.
	It is absolutely a red flag.
	Are you kidding me?
	I don't think it's a.
	If a man doesn't like to eat pussy, to me, that first thing I think is like he's probably gay.
	He's probably secretly gay.
	Yeah.
	Not attracted to vaginas.
	I love it.
	You know what?
	Yeah.
	I think having sex with women is gay.
	You sound like Andrew Tate right now.
	I'm just kidding.
	Joke.
	Joke.
	It's so gay.
	Oh, my God.
	That's so gay.
	Just kidding.
	If you say no, homie, it cancels out.
	Joke.
	They're going to clip it anyways.
	Clip.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	Deal breaker?
	No, no, no.
	I don't really like it.
	Like having guys go down on me, but if it were a girl.
	If it were a girl, it would be a deal breaker.
	But if it's a guy, then no, it's not a deal breaker.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	Okay, what about?
	It's not really a deal breaker.
	It's a deal breaker.
	It's a deal breaker.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, you know, hey, it is what it is.
	I guess my perspective on this is women are entitled to their preferences.
	Me personally, I guess my view, if a woman won't go down on me, that it's kind of a bummer, but it's not a deal breaker.
	If she doesn't want to do that, I don't think that would be 100% like, oh, okay, I don't want to date you then.
	But I understand that whether you're a man or a woman, and this is like something that you need to feel sexually gratified, satisfied, I think that that's valid.
	I disagree with it, but I think you're welcome to have your preference.
	I do think, though, getting into the meat of this debate.
	The meat.
	The big labia of the debate.
	I think you're doing a bit.
	I know you're kind of joking around, right?
	I'm 10,000%.
	I don't think you're being super serious.
	I'm fucking around.
	No, but you're doing it in a bit humorous way.
	But I'm assuming your actual views on it are pretty consistent.
	I think that men, just like women, are allowed to have sexual boundaries.
	And I don't think if somebody doesn't want to participate in a certain sex act, that this makes them like less than people are allowed to have sexual boundaries.
	If a woman didn't want to have anal sex, I don't think we need to shame her for that.
	But just to, I mean, to be equal, equal, if a woman didn't want to give oral sex, I don't think like that needs to be a source of criticism for her.
	I think for me, the main thing is like, if you expect me to go down on you, you better be willing to return the favor.
	I disagree.
	That is my perspective.
	And I also think that it's just, it's like, why would you expect something of me that you wouldn't be willing to do?
	I think that's just, for me, that's a relationship boundary.
	If you're not willing to go down on me, why the fuck would I want to go down on you?
	Well, I don't believe in perfect symmetry.
	No, but I think with that, when it comes to oral sex, that is something that I think should be balanced out.
	I mean, you, well, how about this?
	Like, do you think the standard would be, like, let's say, as it relates to anal sex, if a woman was desirous of having receptive anal sex, do you think she should be like, well, you should be, as the man, you should be willing to let me peg you.
	I don't think that that's...
	That's how I feel a little bit.
	Okay, well, I guess you're into pegging them.
	Well, no, here's the thing.
	It's like, if I'm going to be doing something like that, that that's vulnerable, I would like you to at least try it first.
	And otherwise, I don't feel the need.
	I don't disagree on that one.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I mean, men have a G-spot up there.
	We don't.
	So if you want to fuck my ass, bend over, baby.
	Yeah, I think, though, that I mean, there's two kind of places I have on this, but I think that it's okay to like want to or enjoy receiving head, but not give head.
	I think that's totally fine.
	Yeah, and for some other people, I'm sure that that's a relationship that they're okay with.
	Just not for me personally.
	I'm not saying for everybody, like if you don't enjoy, or if you aren't able to at least participate in giving and you only want to receive, you know, that's your own prerogative.
	I don't really care, but it's just not for me.
	I think tit for tat is kind of toxic, though.
	Like, if it's something that as a woman, you look, there are women who give head, who they give it, but you know, it's kind of maybe not their favorite thing.
	And then there's women who like, they have to give head.
	They got to suck dick, right?
	I think that if that, if I guess even in either situation, if they're like, oh, I'm not going to give head because he won't give head when they otherwise would, that seems a bit rash.
	I think that goes into like the, yeah, the sexual, the thing we were talking about earlier, the sexual or what it refusing sex for whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think then you should just not be in a relationship together, if that's how you guys feel.
	Well, if it's a deal breaker, I suppose.
	But I think if you otherwise would give oral sex, but because they won't, you won't do it.
	That seems a bit like a little.
	No, I don't think it's a deal breaker.
	I think it's like you could, but I don't know.
	But the other thing is, I think with oral sex, there's definitely a difference between the two.
	So I think it's a bigger deal.
	You guys aren't going to like it.
	Speak your truth, Queen.
	I think it's a bigger deal to it's a bigger ask for a guy to go down on the woman.
	Yeah, you're right.
	We're not going to agree with that.
	But, you know, when you were throwing madness, getting fucked.
	Yeah.
	Well, hold on.
	You're the one over here doing a face fucking.
	You could just focus on the head, I guess.
	You know, you don't got to fucking choke on a cock over.
	Just choke on a cock over here.
	But anyway.
	He's going to teach you some lessons in sucking dick.
	I give really good instructions.
	Yeah, he'll do it play-by-play with a banana.
	But I think, okay, so I think, so assuming like that there's I'm having a great time, guys.
	Oh my God.
	There's a biological asymmetric between men and women.
	Please elaborate, Brian.
	So like, okay, if a man has sex, everything ends up on the outside of him.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Well, I guess this is relating to sex.
	And, well, do I, I guess I'll start here with, okay, so a shower, if a man showers, he essentially resets things immediately within minutes.
	There's nothing lingering there.
	If he does a good job, which you would a little bit of soap and water.
	The difference, though, is women, you're not self-cleaning.
	You're not, well, you're not really supposed to like parts of everything.
	Brian's freaking reaction.
	Oh, okay.
	Where's he going with this?
	So, so.
	You calling pussy nasty?
	I thought you liked big labia.
	I'm a big fan of big labia, don't get me wrong.
	But you don't like eating big labia.
	Yeah, why are we liking guilty?
	Guilty is charged.
	Extra meat.
	Guilty is charged, but this is too good.
	Just the physiological, biological reality.
	Women, you're not supposed to douche.
	You're not supposed to clean internally.
	And so just like the actual, well, I mean, how many, there's so many different angles I could take this.
	I guess one thing here would be, let's say you're not in the confines of a serious relationship.
	Right.
	So if I fuck another girl and some other semen could be there and all that fun shit.
	Yeah, if I sleep with another woman and I go take a shower and I soap up, I could even throw, I could throw hand sanitizer on my dick.
	I could throw rubbing alcohol and it's not gonna like, it's not gonna like, you know, you do that as a woman, you put that internally, you're fucked.
	Yeah, you're fucked.
	Major.
	Even if you get maybe a little like natural soap, you might fuck your shit up.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So I take a shower.
	I just fucked a chick.
	Five minutes later, I'm good.
	I'm clean.
	Like, I'm clean.
	You fuck a guy and he comes inside you.
	Well, you know, whatever.
	You could say, okay, well, the girl comes all over me or whatever, and I come inside.
	I clean up.
	Hopefully, I take a shower.
	I'm good.
	I'm reset to new.
	If a guy comes inside you and then you're dealing with another guy, I'm sorry, ladies.
	That shit lingers.
	It does.
	That shit lingers.
	That shit will leak out two days later.
	That's facts.
	Okay.
	So, but it's true.
	So there is like a like if you're casually sleeping around, like you can't, you can hop in the shower.
	If you're a woman, the guy can hop in the shower, assuming no STDs in either scenario, right?
	Because the shower is not going to remove STDs.
	I'm saying no STD scenario.
	For the guy, there's no lingering.
	If you're hung up there, you can just fucking lick the clit.
	That's the outside.
	Okay, but hold on.
	Hold on.
	So, yes, I'm aware that the clit is outside the vagina.
	However, a woman's lubrication will migrate, let's say.
	And, you know, in addition to that, even if like the, you know, it does migrate.
	It does migrate.
	And if we're talking about scent, whether that even touches you or something.
	Semen can have an impact on that.
	Very true.
	So I think there's an asymmetry.
	I think there's an asymmetry.
	Right.
	Can I interject?
	By saying you agree with me?
	Because this is an unassailable position.
	This is a hill he's willing to die on.
	When we're speaking in terms of unprotected sex without a condom, yes, I agree with you on that.
	If it's protected sex, though, especially if you are orally, like if a woman has penetration with a condom and he doesn't come inside of her, and then say you go to give that woman oral sex and you use protection again, like you use like a dental dam, then I don't dental dam.
	Do you not know what that is?
	No, I know what it is, but I'm not going to get that.
	That'd be like, if I was getting head with a condom on, that just sounds terrible for the woman.
	I mean, I suck dick with a condom on.
	Well, I'm sorry for the man.
	I've said this on the show.
	There's a few things like, okay, if all that's on the table is a hand job, I don't even, don't give me the hand job.
	I'd rather not get a hand job.
	If she just wants to jerk me off, nah, I'm good.
	Let's just not even do that.
	If she wants to give me a head with a with a condom, I'd rather just not get the head.
	What the, you don't, have you had head with a condom?
	Have you ever had it?
	Yeah.
	Have I had?
	You know what?
	I'm not actually sure.
	Exactly.
	So you don't even know.
	It's really good if you gave it a chance.
	It's not, it's just like, oh, from the guy's perspective or your own.
	How is it good?
	How would you know?
	Do you have a cop?
	Yeah.
	I've had guys tell me, you know, like, oh, this was way better than I thought it was going to be.
	You know, like, this was way better than I thought.
	I expect it was.
	It's not going to be like, yeah, that sucked.
	Sam, that shit ass.
	Guys are going to kind of placate you a little bit.
	But I mean, I can't.
	But if they can't come from it, you can't.
	Is it bad if they come from it?
	I mean, right.
	I mean, they enjoyed it and they're sitting there going, oh my God, it's like, oh, you hated that.
	Okay.
	God, this was so terrible.
	Maybe busting it.
	Honestly, just because you come.
	Yeah, right.
	As a guy, just because you come doesn't mean it would have been anywhere near as pleasurable if there wasn't a condom.
	No, you're the only one pleasurable.
	Because clearly, you can still, I'm not saying.
	You can make the same argument about vaginal penetration.
	Yeah.
	What I was going to say, I mean, the next step to this, even with sex, I'd honestly rather just not even have sex.
	If it's not unprotected?
	Well, hold on.
	I don't like a friend.
	Why is that wrong?
	I don't know.
	Have you ever been in a relationship?
	But it's better.
	So, I mean, ultimately.
	I don't think I would have unprotected sex with someone unless I was married.
	You've never had unprotected sex?
	Okay, all right.
	Well, let me add.
	I've had sex with condoms.
	I've made mistakes.
	I've had sex with her.
	I've had sex without condoms.
	It's just honestly.
	Once you've had sex without a condom, it's just, I don't know.
	It's low-key different.
	I can't lie.
	As a woman, as a woman, it's different.
	But is it not sacred?
	In my opinion, having unprotected sex is sacred.
	I think it's sacred if you're really trusting to your partner and are in a long-term relationship.
	I don't think it's like a bad thing.
	Yeah.
	Ultimately, look.
	Anyways, I don't know how we got onto that shit.
	Well, this is the most sexual astronaut has ever had.
	Yes, okay.
	Okay, sure.
	Related to like the impact on the pH or whatever, if you have sex with a condom and the guy pulls out and he doesn't come inside, whatever.
	Yeah, that's not going to have as much of an impact.
	But because women's parts are internal.
	Wait, I have another question.
	Yeah.
	If you are in a relationship having unprotected sex, why are you fucking a different person two days later?
	Hold on.
	I'm using this is a hypothetical.
	I'm not saying that this is, I'm articulating a hypothetical to get across the idea here that in a hypothetical where if I have sex with a woman and then I go shower to the new woman in terms of the just biological fucking biohazard reality, I've removed I'm good as new basically removing like STD risk from it or whatever.
	I'm good as new basically.
	If a guy just came inside a woman and then you're the next man up, that's fucking gross.
	I agree with that.
	That's gross.
	That's not even unprotected sex to me is gross though.
	Here's the final component to this.
	And one sec.
	The final component, removing like fucking other people or whatever.
	I would argue, I would argue that even if both of you just go and shower, you clean the guy, you clean the girl, because what causes, if there is a potential for like a displeasurable scent from the woman, that's something internal.
	You shouldn't wash that.
	You're not supposed to wash that.
	That's going to persist whether she takes a shower or not.
	Whereas with the guy, in terms of like taste, in terms of smell, if he's really showered and soaped himself, it's just you're tasting skin.
	It's just skin, really.
	Now you might say, okay, well, what if there's a bit of a pre-com?
	Okay, sure, whatever.
	It's different.
	It's just different, guys.
	It's fucking different.
	Agree to disagree.
	I mean, I respect it.
	I think that like what you're referring to is like a world that I'm not familiar with, which is like people having casual unprotected sex.
	I don't do that.
	Yeah, casual and protected is a little bit too.
	That's a hard no for me.
	If we're not in a relationship.
	If you've got dudes lined up.
	Yeah, all right.
	Bye, buddy.
	Well, it's good you draw the line somewhere, right?
	Huh?
	It's good you draw the line somewhere, right?
	Well, I know, right?
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, I mean, look, it's just a little bit of a.
	We all have boundaries.
	Like you said, we all have sexual boundaries.
	Facts.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I'm just saying.
	Are we having pizza?
	Maybe.
	I'll see what I can do.
	I'll see what I can do.
	Better use my once to get another YouTube pizza.
	We'll come back to your reactions.
	We're going to do some things from the questionnaire.
	Minimum yearly income to be your future husband.
	I put no non-application.
	So you date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	I think for me, it's more about ambition.
	I don't have a number, a set number.
	That doesn't matter to me.
	It's about ambition and what you're doing.
	He's really ambitious.
	Yeah.
	But he works at McDonald's.
	Then he's probably not that ambitious.
	But he.
	No?
	Well, okay.
	So, I mean, you're kind of, I don't know if you're beating around the bush, but you're doing a bit of.
	You could make zero dollars a year if you're the right person and you're ambitious and you're working on a project.
	If you're in debt and you're, you know.
	I'll accept the answer.
	What about you?
	All right, thanks.
	$90,000.
	$1,000.
	$200.
	$200,000, okay?
	Yeah.
	I said $125,000 because I did the math.
	Okay, what about you?
	I said $150,000 based on where I live.
	Wait, aren't you?
	You're from Texas?
	Dallas.
	You need $150K in Dallas?
	Texas has pretty cheap.
	It's not Dallas, Dallas.
	Well, shit, move to, I don't know, move to Waco or something.
	$60.
	$60K?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	$200,000, $125K, $150K.
	$125,000.
	I think you guys are being a little unreasonable.
	$200,000 hard for a man to make?
	Yep.
	That's like, I think top 2% of men make that much.
	Are you a top 2% woman?
	Well, here's the deal.
	That's how much I'm making off of my shit.
	So if he can supply me with a...
	Quick money, fast money.
	Exactly.
	So if he can supply me with a life that's better than the one that I'm supplying myself, then I will submit.
	Well, I imagine you would date a guy who's okay with you doing sex work so you would continue making your money.
	If he makes enough money, if he truly makes enough money.
	50K, but you get to keep working.
	Do you?
	50K, but I get to keep working.
	I did that.
	And you don't want it?
	I did that and I didn't like it.
	200K?
	Yeah.
	That's the minimum.
	You should pay me more than that.
	Bare minimum, 200K?
	For a girl like me, yeah.
	Have you dated guys, like serious, serious relationship dated guys who make 200K?
	Absolutely.
	And you know what?
	I had a brand new car.
	I had a stack of money on the table.
	I didn't have to work.
	I didn't have to lift a finger next week, by the way.
	I did not have to lift a finger.
	You're fenmoing me next week.
	Or do you prefer cash app?
	What do you prefer?
	No.
	I think he likes the cash throw.
	He loves it.
	He loves the lives of the kids.
	I'll do Zelle.
	I can do Wise if you have crypto.
	I'm happy to accept crypto.
	Whatever you want to do.
	I'm going to come shake you down at the strip club, by the way.
	Hey, yo, where's my money?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit of a bad one.
	That'll go well with the bounce.
	That would be, yeah.
	People would be asking who is that guy?
	I'm kidding.
	I will.
	If there's any women out there, I will finom you, though.
	That's the reason why, though.
	Woman has hit me up for it, though.
	That's the reason why I'm so comfortable handing you money, though.
	Why is that?
	Sorry, I don't mean to point.
	That is the reason why I'm kind of because it comes to me easily.
	The money comes to you easily.
	Yeah.
	It comes and it goes into Brian's pocket.
	Easily.
	You play your cards right, man.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, ask and you shall receive.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think I can also, you know, as part of this, we're not going to have sex, but you can just like come do chores for me, too.
	Oh, don't tempt me with a good time.
	You'll get in the gimp suit.
	I'm going to be in a gimp suit and make me clean like a maid.
	I'm not into the gimp suit.
	She can't be making me.
	Why do you consider a maid?
	A maid outfit or something.
	Okay.
	I can see that happen.
	Okay.
	So I wanted to wear the gimp suit.
	Okay, I changed my answer to 96,000.
	All right.
	Look, I'm just, I won't linger on it too long.
	$96,000 is $8,000 a month, which I feel like putting our incomes together.
	The average guy makes, I think, what is it?
	I don't know.
	It's $5,060.
	In LA?
	I think the average American is, I think, roughly like in LA.
	It's fine, but like in LA, 50K, that's a rough life.
	Yeah.
	But that's why he's got you.
	You can hold it up.
	Sugar mummy.
	In LA, $96K, because I feel like $8,000 a month would be my most roofed, like, me?
	You.
	I think he's trying to propose.
	Oh, you bad.
	Do you want kids?
	That's such a good question.
	Do you want to answer it?
	Because over, you know, over my lifetime, the answer for that has been different.
	There's been times in my life where I really have some water.
	Yeah, Mary, can you?
	In this moment right now, if I were to meet Mr. Wright today, I mean, you need a little applesauce.
	Why?
	Should we do a little kappa kappa gamma cheer just to boost up?
	Is applesauce like a thing?
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	Why is that?
	What's applesauce?
	No, like why is that?
	Why?
	Why is applesauce?
	We have applesauce.
	Oh, I thought it was like a sorority thing.
	Yeah, then you put cap in it.
	I was like, wait, like irrelevant.
	No, I wanted to do a cheer, but you can do it.
	You can.
	If I met Mr. Wright today, I do want to.
	Thank you.
	What?
	The pushback thing.
	I can't believe it's been on.
	I would have kids, yeah.
	I would.
	If I met the right person.
	Go get me more money from your fucking purse.
	I gave you all of it.
	Okay.
	If you met the right guy.
	If I met the right guy.
	Well, look, I mean, you're 33, right?
	Correct.
	I mean, look, women can have children into their late 30s, even in their 40s.
	But, I mean, I feel like, you know, 200K, I don't know.
	It seems a bit, I think you should lower your expectations a little bit.
	I would rather not.
	Die?
	Die.
	I would rather not get into a situation where I wasn't 100% content than just force myself to do something and be 50% about it.
	If you could find a guy who gave you 80% of everything that you want, would you take that deal?
	So you don't get everything, but you get 80%.
	I think I want tremendous things.
	So 80%.
	Are you a tremendous person?
	80%.
	Absolutely.
	80% of what I want is well above the average of what I think most people want.
	But you think that you think that.
	Do you think men think that?
	That you're a tremendous person.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, look.
	No, I wouldn't say all men, but hashtag not all men.
	Okay.
	I would think, though, if you are genuinely a tremendous person, you would have been picked.
	How do you know that people haven't tried?
	Is that why you're still single?
	How do you know that people haven't tried?
	Hold on.
	So, I mean, I know you guys won't, what about you, Brian?
	Like, I think I'm an average guy.
	There's some positive characteristics.
	I don't hold myself up like some titan, like I'm some super amazing guy.
	I have flaws.
	There's things, like, I think I'm a normal things.
	I have some bad things.
	But I don't know.
	I think this idea of thinking, like, I'm so tremendous, it's like this level of pride and egotism and narcissism that it's like, I don't know, if you're holding out, if you think you're hot shit, you're going to be holding out for hot shit.
	But if maybe that's not the case, you got to manage your, you got to readjust your expectations a little bit.
	I'd rather die.
	All right.
	Well, hey, at least you're honest.
	A lot of women would rather.
	I don't know.
	Oh, this is a good question.
	Would you rather be the king's?
	Wait, I'm forgetting the word.
	The king's.
	Thank you.
	Would you rather be the king's mistress or the peasant's wife?
	Probably peasant's wife.
	Peasant's wife.
	King's mistress.
	That explains that.
	The peasant's wife.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That explains a little bit here.
	But I mean, like, consistent.
	Look, I think you should want good for yourself in life.
	But also, like, you know, I don't have, for example, for me, right?
	I don't have any qualms that, like, I'm an average dude.
	There's some, maybe some things that are above average, some things that are below average.
	In any case, I'm an average guy.
	I'm not getting some fucking 10 out of 10 smoke show.
	And, you know, I could list out all these things that, like, in an ideal world, I'd be like, yes, I want that, I acknowledge that I'm an average guy.
	And I'm not going to get some fucking insane, like the ultimate manifestation of whatever, whatever it is I want.
	Do you think that I'm delusional for not believing that I'm an average person?
	Yes.
	You are probably a bit delusional.
	Because, look, I want to reiterate, none of this is like intended.
	I say these things like as if I'm your big brother trying to guide you to being realistic.
	I'm not saying these things to like, to insult you.
	I don't, it's not that, but I have a big brother that does this to me already.
	So W big brother.
	Yeah.
	But I do, look, one, and I, I think women are more fall.
	I don't know, fall victim to this is the right word, but I do see this manifest itself more in women where it's like, and part of the blame is on society and Disney and all this shit.
	You've been told that Prince Charming is coming and you've been sold this lie, this about the, it's basically the red pill, right?
	You've been sold a lie about what you deserve.
	You've been sold a lie about what kind of men there are out there.
	You got to be realistic.
	You got to be realistic about your dating expectations.
	I think I would rather stay single for the rest of my life than to settle for somebody that's not settling.
	I don't think it's settling, though.
	For my perspective, if I see myself as whatever and I see this partner that I don't think is deserving of me, then in my perspective, I'm settling.
	I'd rather stay single because I'm pretty happy.
	So you might wonder why I ask the rating looks rating question.
	So I do believe that when women think that they're more attractive than they actually are, and this can be caused by a few reasons.
	It could be just 100% internal self-delusion.
	It can be external factors that are making a woman assess herself as more.
	You look at a girl's Instagram page.
	She could be obese.
	Her friends are all saying, I wish I looked as good as you.
	Slay queen.
	You ate.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Women gas each other.
	Women will gas each other up, especially even more so with your unattractive friends.
	I mean, look, maybe you guys don't believe that there's such thing as, oh, everyone's beautiful and blah, blah, blah.
	Great fantasy.
	Enjoy living in your fantasy land.
	There's a hierarchy.
	Some people are more attractive than others.
	There are men who are more attractive.
	There are women who are more attractive.
	There's a hierarchy.
	Women want to reject the hierarchy.
	Women actually, when it comes to the hierarchy of your assessment of men's attractiveness, women are super harsh when it comes to male attractiveness.
	Women are absolutely not shy whatsoever about making determinations as to which men are and are not attractive.
	However, you guys are very nuts, definitely different.
	Men are realists.
	Men generally are far more realistic with their prospects than the reverse.
	Okay.
	And men are much more realistic about their own self-assessment of their attractiveness.
	Now, to be fair, there are delusional dudes out there.
	Maybe you know them.
	And you even clown on them.
	Oh, the guy thinks he's hot shit, but he really isn't anything.
	But that's you creating a hierarchy.
	That's you rejecting male delusion.
	Why can't you acknowledge your own delusion or female delusion?
	And so I guess my big criticism is, I do think, I'm not saying all women.
	And there are men who are also think they're hot shit, but they're not.
	And though, sorry, did I click on that?
	My bad.
	And those men are just as deserving of criticism, just as deserving.
	But I do think this is a phenomenon that manifests itself more in women because I think with men, well, there's so many factors that play into this, but it's the sort of internalized, the internalized self-assessment.
	There's the external, you women, you typically, to other women's faces, will not be critical of them.
	You will not be critical of other women to their face.
	You gas up women.
	You will overcompliment.
	In fact, it's kind of funny.
	One phenomenon, again, not all women, you'll be very pleasant to a woman to her face.
	And then you're hanging out with your girlfriends.
	The moment she leaves, fuck that bitch.
	This is a female phenomenon.
	Phenomenon.
	So women typically, typically, generally are not accustomed to a more direct form of sort of criticism.
	That's, you know, generally speaking, but I think another component is because of the difference between the best way I like to put it is like this.
	And we sort of talked about this before.
	So if I step to a woman who I guess in my determination, people might agree because it's subjective.
	If I were to step to a woman who's outside of my league, I can tell you right now, I know I'm not getting anything.
	I'm not getting a conversation.
	I'm not getting a date.
	I'm not getting a number.
	I'm definitely like if I'm pleasant, if I'm pleasant and I walk up to a beautiful woman and I say, here's some dick, ma'am.
	Now, I don't literally say that.
	I don't flatter.
	I don't literally, I don't literally say that, but that's in essence what I'm doing.
	I say, would you, would you like me?
	And I'm being very nice and pleasant.
	Would you like some dick?
	Easy dick.
	I'll give you easy dick.
	I wish men would just do that sometimes.
	Then it's like, I like that verbiage.
	Yeah, just be like, okay, no, thanks, Pennsylvania.
	I get instantly rejected.
	No, hey, get the pod costume back up.
	Get it back.
	Okay.
	All right, well, I get like really soon.
	Well, actually, just join us with your, you don't have to change back into it.
	So I get, men get rejected on the front end.
	So if I step to a girl outside my league, she's not considering me for anything.
	Not getting a phone number, not getting a date, not getting set.
	I'm definitely not getting sex.
	Definitely, definitely not getting a relationship.
	Whereas women, if you're just pleasant and on a silver platter, you offer up a guy pussy.
	He'll take it.
	He'll be like, well, I wouldn't be in a relationship with her, but I might fuck her for a couple weeks, a couple months, or even just one night, right?
	There's a difference here.
	I think women, and by the way, I think this is to some degree a criticism of both men and women.
	Women, if you, oh my God, I lost my train of thought.
	Shit.
	Oh, okay.
	We talked about this before, but I think for you, for you women, in order for you to sleep with a guy, he has to typically be at least good-looking enough for you to be in a relationship with him.
	Again, that's not 100% all the time the case.
	But I think generally speaking, if you're going to sleep with a guy, he is at least good-looking enough that you would be in a relationship with him.
	Actually, in reality, when women have a leaning towards a casual sexual encounter, they're not like, ooh, I'm just trying to get dick.
	I'll take anything.
	They'll be like, I typically don't like casual sex, but this guy's really good-looking and really attractive, and he's really hot.
	They'll break their rule that way.
	Men do a sort of a reversal.
	Men, when it comes to casual sex, they it's not, I mean, they'll try to get the hot girl, but they'll be like, okay, um, I just want to get my dick wet.
	I don't really care.
	Like, I will have, I'll have men will have sex with a woman.
	Don't put their dick in anything.
	Yeah, a man will have sex with a woman that just on the sole basis of her looks alone.
	He'll have sex with her.
	He will never be in a relationship with her.
	He'll never take her seriously.
	Even if she's otherwise like meets his personality requirements, just on the looks basis alone, he won't be in a relationship with her, but he'll keep her around.
	He'll string her.
	And I'm not saying this is right.
	Yeah, it's just something that happens.
	I'm just speaking descriptively of what's happening.
	And so I think because of that, that allows women, whereas a man, I can't get anything from a girl outside of my league.
	Nothing.
	I don't receive any validation from women outside of my league.
	Your perceived league.
	Instant, huh?
	Your perceived league.
	I think there are tons of guys who have way more confidence than I would give them, but then they still are able to, you know, do certain things.
	I do think when it comes to women's determination in terms of women's attraction to men, I do think there are things obviously beyond just looks.
	Now, I do think looks are a big part of things.
	I don't think we should ignore the fact that, yes, I think physical attraction in the vast majority of situations is going to probably for most people is going to be the initial determining factor.
	I do think it is the case that as a man, there are certain things that can give you an edge up.
	It can be confidence, it can be your humor, it can be your status, it can be your wealth.
	I think, though, I honestly, genuine, genuinely think, though, majority of women looks are the again, the guy can't be like a fucking piece of shit.
	Well, actually, if he's hot enough, then they get away with it.
	Actually, well, I guess what I was going to say is I'm not saying what I'm saying by that is women do care about other things.
	Like, if you're a fucking terrible human being, I mean, women will still date like a really hot guy, but he's a piece of shit.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Luigi Mangioni, what do you think about him?
	Smash.
	Right.
	He's a fucking assassin, and you would fuck him.
	That's, I think, female dysfunction, but that's another topic.
	We're talking about looks, though, right?
	I don't know him as a person.
	I think.
	Well, much of the fanfare surrounding Luigi, it's predominantly from young women who are drawn to him.
	I suppose from one angle, he's he's, I really don't think he's like.
	He's not your type.
	Thank you.
	I mean, he's, he's not a bad, he's not ugly, but I think he's maybe like a six, you know, maybe a six.
	The context about like his socials and like what he's into and the fact that he's well-educated and all these things, I think that also kind of goes into it.
	But yeah, he's also should be a bit of a an alleged assassin.
	He's not been convicted yet.
	All right.
	Well, sure, he's an alleged assassin.
	I mean, going back to that comment that one of the guys made at the beginning saying like all the crazy fan, not fan, well, I guess fan fiction, but like the crazy like romance novels.
	Oh, yeah, that shit's crazy.
	I don't think an assassin is, you know, something that stops that.
	Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of these, a lot of these women that are showing up to his court hearings.
	That's a lot.
	That's a little bit.
	The women were fucking gooning for Luigi Mangione.
	And it's like, I don't know.
	I guess there are worse things to do.
	Getting back to the central idea here is y'all do have access to men outside of your leagues.
	Even if you can't get a relationship out of him, you can't get commitment.
	You do receive, and I understand how it can be confusing.
	Oh, wow, this guy has lust over me.
	This guy wants to fuck me.
	Maybe that's my league.
	But your league is not the men who will fuck you.
	Your league is the men who will commit to you.
	Go ahead.
	What about ugly guys that pay hot girls to have sex with them?
	They have access to people that are outside of their league.
	Prostitution, like the transactional nature of that is not within the paradigm of what I'm talking about.
	But they still have access to them through that.
	That infrastructure exists for them there, rather than like how we said earlier, how the opposite infrastructure doesn't exist for women, but it does exist for men.
	Do you know something?
	Yeah, just in regards to you're saying people lower league.
	What are you referring to?
	Because if someone's a lower league than a prostitute, how would that make sense?
	I'm speaking specifically about like physical attraction.
	Like there's objectively some physically attractive prostitutes out there that men could potentially pay for for money.
	Honestly, my impression of I don't get the impression that like prostitutes are typically good looking.
	Well, that they're like, I think it's how much I would define it, right?
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't get the impression that like escorts are pro like they might be like five, six, seven.
	I don't think eight, nines, and tens are typically doing.
	I think that those are the women that are making the big bucks.
	I think those are the women that are six and you know.
	Yeah.
	Well, also, but it, I don't think this applies.
	Like, I don't think you're talking about like the paradigm that you're speaking of strictly within like the dating realm.
	Yeah, like genuine dating in relationships.
	So, like, I could probably.
	What about sugar daddies?
	Is that not dating or is it something else?
	Well, I don't know how that pertains to your opinion.
	But so, I guess for all these reasons I listed out, women gassing other women up, just their own internal self-assessment, you know, the also the projection of, oh, this is how I look with a full face of makeup, filter, et cetera.
	Well, that's not really how you look.
	And then additionally, I would just add the fact that women have access, have limited, women have limited sexual access to men outside of their league.
	Men definitely don't have limited sexual access to women outside of their league as a general principle.
	So, limited sexual access would essentially be, yeah, you can like hook up with a guy, sleep with a guy once, twice, three times.
	Maybe he'll keep you around.
	I mean, some dudes will keep you around for a long time, then you're gigafucked.
	But gigafucked is megafucked.
	But that's not that, so that would be limited sexual access.
	You don't, you're typically not getting like full-fledged romantic access to these men, like genuine mutual romantic interest.
	So, whereas us guys, even if I'm a, even if I'm really pleasant and she would otherwise like my personality, whatever.
	Um, supply and demand.
	I wouldn't even make it about personality.
	I would just say, so long as I'm being pleasant and I'm offering up dick, women don't go for that really.
	Women don't typically go for that.
	Yeah, gotta, yeah.
	Dick is um dick is an uh what is it?
	It's an unlimited natural resource.
	Yeah, supply and demand.
	It's like solar power.
	You are never gonna run out of that.
	Dude, you walk outside is fucking everywhere.
	If the sun is shining, you can go dating dick.
	So, I'll know.
	We were talking about the like the looks rating stuff.
	I think you were asking me if, oh, the $200,000 a year, if I think you're delusional.
	I mean, I mean, I could make that money on my own.
	Well, regardless of the looks, though, but the thing is, though, is that you've kind of artificially inflated things a little bit because like sex work is fast money and you can get a lot, you can make a lot of money quick with sex work.
	But I think of the men who make a lot of money, typically men who are well off financially, assuming they're not total fucking losers or whatever, they do have more dating optionality because that is something to some degree that women find.
	I'm not saying it's the only thing.
	I'm not calling women gold diggers.
	I'm just saying, I think it's fine for a woman to think, like, oh, I think this is an attractive trait for a guy who's like, he's financially in a good spot or whatever.
	I think that's totally fine.
	I don't think that makes women gold diggers.
	But I think a guy who makes $200,000 a year, I'm not trying to be a dick.
	You're involved in sex work.
	I think most men typically don't want to date women who are sex workers.
	I'm not making a, I'm not, you may very well be like a very nice, pleasant person so far in this conversation.
	You seemed very nice and pleasant.
	Submissive.
	Thank you for the $300 or whatever.
	You should send me more.
	But I do think that for a guy who is, unless you go really, I don't know what your age limit is.
	If you go into the 50s, you might find a guy who's wealthy, who's willing to date a younger woman, but she's got this mark on her in terms of the sex work.
	But I think a guy, if you're looking for a guy in his 30s and 40s, I don't think his first choice, just being realistic here, don't shoot the messenger, is going to be a woman who's a sex worker.
	I think an average guy in that age range and like the way that you described, I actually agree with you 100%.
	Like an average guy would not go for a woman like me.
	And that's why I say that I am not average because I understand what it is that I'm bringing to the table beyond just sex.
	You know, the way that you've described sex in our conversations tonight, a lot of the scenarios that you describe are really dangerous scenarios that like I personally would never put myself in.
	Like having unprotected sex or having sex with multiple partners like consecutive nights in a row and like stuff like that.
	I feel like for me, being in the sex work industry has made me a lot smarter about how I interact with men.
	And there are girls out there going to the bar that are fucking the nice guy for being nice to her.
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, you know, there's women who are fucking a bunch of men for free.
	I get that.
	Love the game.
	I'm just, I'm not saying that's wrong either.
	They can do whatever they want.
	I'm just saying my standard is I know what I want.
	I've seen what I want.
	I'm not, you know, I'm 33.
	I'm not against dating an older man.
	Someone was 10, 15, 20 years older than me.
	That's fine.
	Sure.
	But, you know, it's like, I also have to take into account that he's lived a whole life before he met me.
	Moving on to the next thing.
	I think I'm just, Lexi, you're 5'2 and you would date a guy minimum height for a guy?
	5'9.
	Okay, none of your, nobody else has really any crazy answers on that.
	I think that's crazy.
	I don't think that's crazy.
	No, I don't think it's too bad.
	No, I wasn't like that.
	I was the craziest out of evermore.
	I was just nobody else, nobody had like any crazy answers, really.
	You're 5'2?
	Yes.
	You give off 5'5 ⁇ energy.
	Thank you.
	I get that a lot, actually.
	Thank you.
	You do give off 5'5 energy.
	Thank you.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, a couple more things from the questionnaire.
	We're gonna start with you, Willow.
	Women are oppressed in the USA.
	How or why is that?
	I think when I was filling it out, the first thing I thought of was, again, like the fact that certain regulations for like medical things were not implemented.
	And I think that those have a lingering effect.
	I think that is where I kind of stand.
	What do you mean, medical things?
	Like the fact that, like when it comes to medications, the fact that, you know, until the 1990s, a lot of medications were approved when they were only tested on men and the side effects were not tested on women.
	And they got approved and they still exist today.
	So I think that's the first thing I thought of.
	I've thought about that one for a minute and I have a few responses.
	Got me.
	Contagious.
	Contagious yang.
	We're all falling asleep right now.
	Yeah, I got me.
	There are energy drinks if anybody needs them.
	I got to go to sleep tonight.
	I would say, though, I would say on that is try not to be like talking in the back if you can.
	But when it comes to not medicine, not being experimented on women, that actually seems like a privilege to me.
	Like the way I would frame it from a men's advocacy perspective, like if the roles were reversed, it would be like, whoa, you guys are using women as guinea pigs.
	You guys are medically experimenting on women.
	Women are viewed as disposable.
	These are consensual, though.
	It's not like they're being against their will.
	Hold on.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Like these men are willingly volunteering.
	However, if the consequences of their volunteering have negative life impacts on them because they have like, maybe this medicine is like insanely dangerous.
	I don't, even if it's consensual, like that still creates harm.
	I think so too.
	So if it's the case that men have, and I would even look at it from a socioeconomic perspective.
	Okay, men are so desperate for money.
	Men are so desperate to either, and there's like a social factor of, wow, okay, if I'm not a provider, I'm not going to get a girlfriend.
	I'm not going to have a family.
	I'm not going to have a wife.
	I'm not going to have children.
	There's a socioeconomic perspective.
	There's a mating pressure perspective.
	I honestly, I think there's compelling arguments that the fact that men have been the ones experimented on, I think that that's, if the rules were reversed, feminists would be fucking, oh my God, what?
	There should be equality in medical experimentation.
	Why is it women who are undergoing like having all these negative side effects from participating in these studies?
	Are women so desperate for the money?
	No, the reality is men are desperate for the money.
	Men will go to far further lengths to get money.
	I don't know about that one, dude.
	That can be debated.
	Maybe I'll walk that one back a little bit.
	Will a guy suck a dick?
	Some guys suck dick.
	And women suck dick.
	But that's like gay for pay.
	That's what we call trade.
	My brain's all over the place with that one.
	I don't know.
	Ultimately, I do think if the rules were reversed, you would hear feminists saying, wow, this is really unfair.
	We are medically experimenting on these women and pumping them full of drugs.
	We don't know what their side effects are going to be.
	Is it going to have, so there's that.
	I also think because of women's hormones, because that's a bit, my understanding, it's because it's a bit uncomfortable.
	But we're 50% of the population.
	Don't you think that we should have a representative?
	I think that if we're talking about dosing, doing participating in drug tests, that's fine.
	But I think that men are probably, I wonder if men are more willing to do it.
	I don't know if there's any, I don't know if you have any evidence to back that up, sure.
	I don't know.
	I think that men are, well, I do have evidence if we apply the same ideal to the workforce, for example.
	So I don't have any problem with women doing the dangerous, dirty jobs that like 99%, that are occupied by 99% men.
	I just don't think women want to do those jobs and they're unwilling to do it, even if they're highly paid.
	So women don't want to do dangerous, dirty jobs.
	They don't want to go live on some oil derrick in the middle of the ocean for weeks on end.
	They don't want to do, which is a dangerous job, by the way.
	They don't want to be roughnecks.
	Actually, we might get a female roughneck here eventually.
	But generally speaking, women do not want to do dangerous, physically laborious, dirty jobs.
	So what's stopping them from going into medical studies?
	Because that's not physically laborious.
	It can be dangerous.
	Yes, absolutely, but not in the same sense of a high labor intensive job.
	And also, I think a lot of the medical stuff is usually done on women who are sick.
	And I think that, you know, like cancer treatment stuff, you have to have cancer.
	It's not you have to be broke or you're going to be more likely to participate in the study if you're broke.
	Well, there are probably medications that are, like, for example, I don't know the history of Tylenol, but like Tylenol is not a, at least now we, well, actually, there's some reports that Tylenol isn't the best.
	Autism maxing.
	Isn't the best.
	But there are obviously certain medications that are perhaps more severe than others where you don't need necessarily to have a diagnosis for you to be part of a medical experiment.
	So.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I think if we're 50% of the population, we should be taken into consideration.
	I'm totally fine with that.
	Yes.
	I'm totally fine with it.
	I think the reality is, is that far less women probably sign up to do this.
	And then the other thing, though, but the other thing that you're ignoring, aside from just the fact that men are more willing to do it, aside from the fact that I don't think it's like some sort of privilege or benefit for men to be medically experimented on, I think that that's not like some great advantage that men have.
	I would argue if you're doing like a male advocacy thing, why is it that men are drawn to allow them to harm their own bodies through medical experiment?
	Like I would never want to be medically experimented on.
	I don't want some fucking CDC to pump me full of their fucking bullshit vaccine.
	So anyways, I would say this.
	I guess I would say this, is that one of the reasons also that researchers are perhaps hesitant to involve women, assuming, you know, even putting aside all the other arguments I made is because women carry the risk of getting pregnant, if a woman happens to get pregnant and they're using this experimental drug.
	It could be really goodane.
	There could be really, well, there could be really, really fucked up birth defects if she happens to get pregnant.
	And let's assume she's pro-life.
	Oh, I'm not going to abort the kid.
	Okay, great.
	Your kid is born without arms and legs.
	And that's an important thing that should be tested because once that medication is released, those birth defects should be like really taken into consideration.
	Because a small sample size of participants in a medical study, that is a much, much, much smaller group of people than the entire population that may take that medication.
	But how would you actually do this experiment?
	So you're saying, let's get pregnant women and medicine experiments on them.
	But so how would you test for potential, I mean, look, I'm not a medical researcher.
	Maybe there's ways you can analyze the, you know, look, I'm not, I don't know about medicine and all this stuff, but how would you propose we determine that?
	You're saying we should have more women being medically experimented on.
	I think that women should be understood medically at the same amount that men are because we are 50% of the population and that should be taken into account.
	But one of the reasons researchers might be hesitant to include women in these medical experiences.
	I'm not saying they might not be hesitant.
	They absolutely can be hesitant.
	But I think that they still should have to understand that women are 50% of the population and should be able to have the same medical access and the same kind of medication treatment as men if it's biologically viable.
	I do believe that they do enroll women in many of these studies.
	No.
	Okay, but again, then it would just go back to...
	The original question was, how are women oppressed?
	And I'm saying, as of the 1990s, women weren't required to be included.
	And now they are required to be included.
	And so that was my example to that answer.
	I do think that medication can, in terms of side effects or in terms of even efficacy, can have differences between men and women.
	Although some are pretty much the same, whereas some, like you give a man certain drugs and it'll be totally different than a woman.
	But I think generally speaking, most medications, men and women aren't that far apart in terms of like our reaction to medications typically yes, for some things.
	However, I'd say generally speaking, I think if you do a test and the test subjects are almost all men, I think you can infer a bunch of information about the impacts and side effects and efficacy in women just as it's dangerous to infer though.
	That's also fine, but I'm fine.
	You're fine with bad science?
	No, sorry.
	I'm fine with women participating in these medical experiments or whatever.
	But again, it comes down to the basically the pregnancy risk.
	You're going to like fuck up a kid if you're medically experimenting on a woman who either she doesn't know she's pregnant or she gets pregnant.
	They are so incredibly like on it with pregnancy tests.
	So I don't even think that the whole pregnancy argument, I mean, the thing with like Accutane, with the whole birth defects that are caused by taking Accutane, you have to be on birth control.
	Even if you're asexual, even if you're a virgin, no matter what, they still usually have to put you on birth control as a medical or as a legal thing.
	Yeah, but I don't disagree with you.
	I'm fine with women if they want to participate in this and I'm fine with it being 50-50.
	But if the researchers have some bona fide reason to perhaps have that skew differently, or maybe they can't find enough women who are willing to do it, then if it's 70-30, that makes sense to me.
	Again, it goes down to is it a solid experience or experiment?
	Is it bad science?
	But I don't think that this is evidence of women being oppressed in the USA.
	I think that that was my example.
	And I think that that is something that I think still has lingering effects.
	I wouldn't say that we are nearly as oppressed as we used to be.
	I think things are getting better now.
	I think there are also probably other examples.
	Also, I guess moving on to the next one, men are more privileged in society.
	You agree?
	You agree?
	Wait, did I say that?
	Yeah, you did.
	You agree, and then you agree.
	Why is that?
	Like, why do you say men are more privileged in society than women?
	Why is that?
	Yeah, I think in society at large, like men are more trusted in positions of power.
	In positions of power.
	That's just my positions of power.
	Yeah.
	Men are more trusted.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if that's a privilege, though.
	That sounds like responsibility.
	I mean, that's something that goes hand in hand.
	I think it is a privilege to have responsibility.
	I don't know if I would categorize it as a privilege.
	I think responsibility is its own thing, absent privilege.
	I mean, what about the trust that she was speaking about?
	Well, are all responsibilities privileges?
	No, but I think that if you have the ability to have a responsibility versus you don't have the ability to have the responsibility, that is a privilege.
	I'd actually say most responsibility.
	Can you just repeat that?
	If you have the ability to have a responsibility, if I have the ability to get a dog and a dog is a responsibility and I have the ability to get a dog, I think that is a privilege.
	If I am not able to get a dog, I know she's awesome.
	If I'm not able to get a dog, you know, let's say my parents said, no, you can't get a dog.
	That, you know, isn't, I don't think, a privilege.
	I mean, has there ever, I know you're using like a bad, you know, has there ever been an instance in the United States where women were barred from dog ownership?
	Not dog ownership, as far as I'm aware of.
	Right.
	I mean, when I'm thinking about this, though, the immediate one, and we talked about this before, so I think being subject to military conscription or in fact being drafted, that's a responsibility.
	And women not having that responsibility is definitely a privilege.
	That's not a choice.
	Being drafted is not a choice.
	Even not having the choice is definitely a privilege.
	And it is a choice because you guys are voters.
	You're part of the electorate.
	Well, I still think they have men have a bit more of a privilege.
	Not like it's not like a huge big thing, but like, I think people will trust male doctors more.
	I mean, I would disagree.
	I think I disagree.
	In fact, I see a big push.
	I mean, this is getting maybe a bit specific, but women typically, I've heard women don't want a male gynecologist.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	That's just one field of men.
	I think, like, in terms of cardiology, some women are totally fine with it.
	And in fact, some women who, for example, might have been abused by a woman, they would even prefer a male gynecologist, right?
	So, but I don't know this idea that men get taken more seriously.
	I mean, maybe that's because of affirmative action.
	So who knows?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if I agree with that.
	Okay.
	And I think women have a really, they've actually done studies.
	Women have a very large in-group bias for other women, whereas men have a slight out-group bias for women.
	In what context?
	Yeah, in what context?
	I mean, I would say essentially, I mean, how do I explain this?
	Women don't trust men, but men trust women.
	Sure, that would be a good one.
	Like, women are women.
	Okay, well.
	I don't like the inference, but I think, yes, I think women have a even if we're just talking about a generalized liking, women have a stronger liking towards other women, whereas men have a slight out-group liking towards women.
	And men have no in-group bias.
	I would really like to see that study, actually.
	I don't know it off the top of my head, but I'm sure I could, if you just Google it, I'm sure I could find it for you.
	I don't know, Nick, can you try to Google that?
	Just like in-group, out-group bias men, women, something like that.
	But, and this is actually one of the ways in which like women do at least, well, whatever.
	Whatever.
	Okay, next thing.
	I personally think in today's society, women, at bare minimum, privilege is equal.
	I would probably argue women have more privilege in society than men.
	I think it's a pendulum then.
	swings i don't know if it's a i think it's a well uh you think you you say people of color can't be racist towards white people Why is that?
	I mean, I guess it's not my place to speak to this person.
	That's what I think.
	Keep going.
	Keep going.
	I don't really think it's my place to speak to people.
	Why wouldn't you become a white woman?
	So?
	It's not my place.
	But it is.
	I mean, by circling the thing.
	I mean, I guess I just, I don't feel like there's really like I haven't felt like a person of color, I guess, has been like racist towards me.
	Or I guess I haven't really seen.
	Is it logically possible that a black person could be racist towards you?
	I don't really think so because we're technically the oppressors.
	Oh my gosh.
	And I'm just saying.
	I think based off of history, especially in the United States, it's not possible.
	There could be prejudices, but like prejudice is different because of, you know, it's like because of the history of oppression from white people.
	I think it's the institutionalized, like, it's built into our system.
	It's been from, you know, 400 years of slavery.
	It's like the example of like, oh, if you're playing a game of monopoly and one player gets to go 400 rounds in a row and then the other person gets to start.
	Yes, it is equality because we both are playing the game now.
	But there is the context of they've had 400 rounds to build up their wealth, generational wealth, generational, you know, all that fun stuff.
	How would you explain the prosperity of Asian Americans in this country?
	How would I?
	What do you ask?
	Explain it?
	Yeah, how would you?
	So, you know, we abolished slavery way back when.
	We had massive amounts of Asian immigration well after slavery was entirely abolished.
	Jim Crow area?
	Area, era.
	How would you explain the prosperity of Asian Americans?
	I think it really depends on where in the country you're looking at, but I think for California.
	Anywhere in the country, Asians, in fact, I think it's the case that even Asian women outearn white men.
	I heard another study that it was not that.
	I don't remember.
	We just learned this in fucking adult developmental psych.
	Well, I think it's because like Asians are known for going for higher paying fields compared to a lot of other people, which is not a bad thing.
	But I mean, if you arrive to this country with nothing, I mean.
	Oh, so are you saying like also Asian immigrants, like Asian immigrant women are outearning white men?
	Like Asian come over?
	No, no, no.
	Well, I mean, I don't know the specific breakdown at what level of, if they're first generation, second generation, third generation.
	But I think in totality, Asian American women outearn white men in this country.
	Do you think or you know?
	I've seen studies indicating that this is the case.
	I've seen the opposite.
	I've seen a lot.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Nick, I think it's in the Discord if you want to pull it up.
	We'll pull that up super quick.
	So, Nick, it's research infographics.
	And I think that goes into like the model minority myth.
	The idea of like, oh, well, these are the good minorities.
	These are the bad minorities.
	When in reality, it's still.
	I didn't forward that.
	You did.
	I didn't say anything about their the model.
	I'm just saying.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	It happens to me that it does happen to be the case that Asian women outearn white men.
	Oh my God.
	I have way too many infographics because it's going to take me forever to find it.
	I'll keep looking.
	Oh, it's, Nick, it's near the top, and it's a there's like a blue line and a dark red line, white men, Asian women.
	There's two mediums.
	Just the first one, the big one, the top one.
	Okay, this is median weekly earnings for full-time workers, Asian women versus white men, 2000 to 2020.
	So it is pretty recent data.
	And then it looks like in around 2020, Asian women did start outpacing white men in terms of median weekly earnings.
	And that's from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, BLS.
	Cool.
	So there it is, I guess.
	Yeah, I don't know if you still dispute it or what, but I mean, the wage gap's a myth, too.
	Okay.
	Okay, all right.
	Let's see.
	What else do we have?
	Wait, Brian, can I ask a question?
	Sure.
	Do you think it's possible for people of color to be racist towards white people?
	I do.
	Do you think so?
	Yeah, I think so because I think racism is just like, and I think other races are racist towards other races, you know?
	So any race can be racist to any race.
	That's what I think.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Now, people will try to make a differentiation.
	And look, I think it's fair to say that there are certain systemic things where African Americans have had it clearly worse off.
	You know, obviously slavery, that was really bad.
	But if I guess when I'm thinking of racism, I'm just thinking of, I tend to, I tend to think more about like a more individualistic racism.
	Like, can an individual white person or individual black person hold racist sentiments towards white people?
	Yes.
	So I think it's all in-group, out-group bias.
	Everybody has a little bit of bias.
	It's just you're telling us you're a racist?
	I'm telling you.
	German Aryan?
	Yeah, for sure.
	No, I think it's, I mean, it is a biological thing of like, you don't, I mean, even if it's not cognizant, everybody has, it's it called, subliminal or whatever it is, biases.
	Sure, sure.
	A few more things from here, then we'll get back to the notes.
	Then getting, getting kind of wrapped up here.
	Let's see, Willow.
	Men should provide and protect.
	Men should be chivalrous, to which you agree.
	You do want to get married?
	I do.
	You'll take your husband's last name?
	If it's cooler than mine, I like that.
	When I say it's not cooler, then I would like to keep mine.
	Okay.
	Lexi, men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
	You will keep your last.
	No, no, no, you, you're going to take your husband's last name.
	And then kids, I'm assuming, will take his name.
	Okay.
	Of course.
	You agree.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	You will take your husband's last name.
	Okay.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	Husband should be willing to die protecting you.
	Take the bullet.
	You're going to keep your last name, Trump.
	No, no, I'm not going to keep my last name.
	You circled.
	You circled.
	That's a myth.
	Okay, you didn't mean it.
	Yeah, no, no, I'm not keeping my last name.
	All right.
	And then you circled the first three.
	Absolutely.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	Okay.
	I guess, okay, I thought you would have.
	Really quick on the husbands should be willing to die protecting you.
	Would you be willing to die protecting your husband?
	Yes.
	Lexi.
	Yes, yes.
	5-2, 5-2, Lexi.
	Yeah, like odds that I'm going to have to do that, very low.
	Have you ever fought a bitch?
	No.
	Not physically.
	Have you ever fought a dude?
	No.
	I feel like you would throw down, not going to lie.
	I totally would.
	Somebody had to do something.
	Scan from Alpha Phi.
	You're getting his hands.
	You're starting to be that doesn't exist.
	We're gonna find out maybe what she just said.
	We don't have that at Northeastern Society.
	Okay, okay.
	DGs.
	Oh, we do have that.
	That's a new one.
	What about the?
	Do you have AKIO?
	Yeah, we do.
	How do you know about this Aurora Temple?
	I tried to rush.
	He gets around.
	I tried to rush back in the day.
	For a sorority?
	Yeah.
	Do they let trans people in the sword?
	What's the policy there?
	I have no idea.
	Are you in the leadership for your sword?
	I used to be.
	I'm old.
	Are you the treasurer?
	No, I was the events chair.
	Did you say old?
	I'm old.
	I thought you said bold.
	No, unk.
	You're an unch.
	You're unknown.
	You're a seventh year.
	But pretty much.
	Fifth year, seventh years.
	You're a Van Wilder.
	I was old, yeah.
	But I used to be.
	I did have one super quick question on the husband should be willing to die protecting you.
	How about this scenario?
	No, boy.
	And we're not going to linger on it, but just we'll get quick answers and move it along.
	All right.
	Consider a scenario.
	I'm just reading off my notes.
	Consider a scenario.
	A ship is sinking.
	Only one functioning life preserver remains.
	A married couple faces the reality that can save only one person.
	There's no workaround.
	There's no additional options.
	You can't try to tread water for 10 hours.
	Somebody has to die.
	And they know somebody's going to die.
	Given that one of them must die, who, if anyone, should volunteer to sacrifice themselves?
	I would.
	I'd sacrifice myself.
	Yes.
	Love it.
	What do you think?
	I don't know.
	I don't have a really good idea.
	Let's say you're in that situation with your husband.
	I have, you have no idea how you're going to react.
	I'd sacrifice myself, Phil.
	You're ready to do it next.
	Who should sacrifice?
	The husband or the especially if I have kids.
	If I have kids, they need a mother.
	I'm staying.
	I disagree.
	If we have kids, I definitely got to survive.
	What are you?
	No.
	So I can provide.
	She already gave me the kids.
	No, bitch.
	No, no.
	What do you think?
	No, no, they need a mother.
	Who should take the life jacket?
	Or who should sacrifice?
	Whoever can.
	I should survive.
	You should survive.
	Yes.
	Because I might be pregnant.
	What do you think?
	Save my child.
	Yes.
	Let's assume you're not pregnant.
	Oh, I would want to.
	So you, okay.
	Mary, what do you think?
	Okay, Mary, skip.
	Yeah, no, just go.
	Go.
	Yeah, no, I would die for them.
	Sure.
	W. W.
	I would 100% die for my wife.
	Period.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	W. Interesting.
	Stroke's beard.
	Why wouldn't you sacrifice?
	I guess I'm going to have to date her.
	She's willing to sacrifice herself.
	Oh, God.
	He's going to have to.
	And she has a large labyrinth, I guess.
	Wow.
	Would you die for Brian?
	Yeah, you're going to die for Brian.
	Yeah, dude.
	You look too much like my dad.
	That's not a kink of mine.
	I'm sorry.
	I look too much like your dad.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Do you have daddy issues?
	He's there.
	Oh, wow.
	That's fucked up.
	Right.
	We already talked about that.
	You bring it back up again.
	Oh, my God.
	No, Speak up.
	No, no, it's been a long time.
	We know.
	I just stopped listening.
	I just zone out.
	I just zone out.
	Oh, my God.
	It's been a couple hours.
	You know, really quick.
	Trolley dilemma.
	Do you know?
	Are you familiar with the trolley problem?
	Okay.
	There's a trolley.
	Charlie truck.
	Charlie Kirkdile.
	I guess it sounds kind of sound familiar.
	Okay.
	There's a train barreling down the train track, and you have five people along the train track that are tied to the train track.
	You can pull a lever and it will redirect the train track, killing just one person.
	Do you pull the lever?
	Yes.
	I don't really have an answer to this one, but no, God has a plan.
	Wait, what?
	No, I don't pull it.
	God has a plan.
	You don't pull it.
	Yes.
	I'm pulling it back and forth.
	Yes, both sides.
	Killing it and everybody.
	If I have to be responsible for killing one person, what's the point of saving anybody?
	So you'd kill all six.
	Yeah.
	This is the first time I've ever heard that.
	I think she wins.
	I think she'd beat the drawing bag.
	I figured it out.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	By the way, are you from the South?
	You have like an accent.
	Absolutely.
	I'm from Tennessee.
	Oh, that's right.
	Tennessee.
	Okay.
	Again, what do you pick?
	I'd probably be the one person to just morally.
	Morally.
	Right.
	I mean, like, what else are you supposed to do?
	Five versus one, obviously, be the one.
	Okay.
	Into the mics, into the mics.
	The one person, yeah.
	Same one.
	All right.
	Okay, we're going to finish up some of the notes here.
	We're going to get into one second.
	Emily, no.
	Yeah, we'll do those in a bit.
	Katie.
	Oh, that's the fucking no show.
	Okay.
	Scumbag.
	Let's see.
	You got it on the.
	Oh, Lynn, tell us really quick the whole situation with the guy who was maybe not a.
	Or no, the woman who is maybe not a woman.
	Tell us the story really quick.
	So like at my school, this became like a really like everyone was talking about it because this guy was going out with a girl and like he was like on the college football team and she was a cheerleader, but like no one knew she was trans.
	And so like they were together.
	They were, he took her on a few dates and like he really liked her, but then like I think she just posted something on his story and he found out that she's trans and he was so mad and everyone was like, oh my gosh.
	So like I just felt like that's a disrespectful thing to do.
	Like you should you should disclose.
	Be honest.
	Yeah.
	Like you should be honest.
	Yeah.
	So, but then like, people are like, oh like, that's not his business, but like it is.
	I mean, if they're trying to get into dirty business, it's kind of waiting.
	What wait?
	Yeah, she was waiting.
	She was a cheerleader okay, one day, like I don't know if it was Pride Month or something, she just posted something like, oh yeah, that's why no one knows I'm trans or whatever, and that's a cold way to come out.
	How did Bro not know though yeah, what I hadn't slept together out on double, that's it.
	That's a huge after this.
	Do you not think that's really important to discuss, or no, like before right, that's crazy.
	So were they into it?
	Or like, so I know yeah okay surprise, I don't think that's pretty literally literally yeah, I don't know.
	This lighting real fucking bad yeah, really bad, yeah.
	no not just on you don't worry no it's my skin's like red in general it's getting pinker yeah we're turning into blueberries it is bad it is getting pinker that's just that's better yeah not that because I'm not in it I was like the white balance went crazy for some okay Mog World War Mary all right Oh no.
	What?
	The pizza?
	Years.
	Yes.
	What?
	I don't think it's.
	Sorry, I got excited.
	Okay, Mary Ghost.
	Years of World War I.
	Oh, history is not my subject.
	Years.
	Guess.
	World War I was 20s.
	Okay, next.
	1914 to 1918.
	Next.
	1907 to 1911.
	I thought it was 1912 to 1918.
	1914 to 1918.
	1914 to 1918.
	Sounds right to me.
	Yeah, 1914 to 1918.
	Two years off isn't that bad.
	I'm kind of proud of myself.
	You were close.
	You were close.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I'm proud of you.
	I'm learning.
	I know World War II, I think.
	You go first.
	Yeah, you go first.
	I'm pretty sure it's 1936 to 1942.
	Nope.
	It's close.
	Still close.
	1936 to 1945.
	Did everyone go you go?
	No.
	Try.
	Just guess.
	Dude, history.
	I fucking suck at history.
	It's not my thing.
	The first thing I think it was just the 40s, roughly.
	1939 to 1945.
	Yeah, 1939 to 1945.
	Okay, I still wasn't that far off.
	The U.S.'s involvement was 39 to 45, but the war started prior to that because of the U.S. involvement.
	The U.S. involvement was later on.
	The war started from 39 to 45.
	It ended in 45.
	The U.S. got involved right at the very end.
	Really?
	Got involved at Pearl Harbor.
	What year was that?
	It was 40.
	Pearl Harbor?
	Ask everyone.
	Where Pearl Harbor is.
	I want to see the answer.
	Pearl Harbor.
	Was it?
	No, it wasn't that late because that was the year that it ended.
	It was 41.
	I thought it was 41.
	I have no idea.
	Maybe 41.
	Do you know where Pearl Harbor is dating?
	Not history.
	Ask.
	Where is it?
	Oh, what is it?
	1939?
	No one's going to be able to do that.
	No, that's the start of the war.
	It wasn't at the start of the war.
	Final thing from the questionnaire here.
	Past should not matter.
	Body count.
	You agree with that.
	Zara, you agree with that?
	Whatever your name is, you agree with that.
	What the hell?
	You know my name.
	Do you past should not matter?
	Past should not matter.
	Yeah.
	Past should matter.
	Past.
	I think, yeah, they matter.
	Did you do body count before?
	Yeah, I did.
	You shared it?
	Yeah, I did.
	What's your name?
	Absolutely not.
	Yeah, fine.
	I'll give it a try.
	Okay, she'll do it.
	Done.
	All right, so I'll wait until everybody's back.
	Really quick, guys.
	Final reminders.
	$100 read, TTS 200, Venmo Cash Out Whatever Pod.
	Let me shout anybody out.
	We have John.
	Thank you for the 35.
	I don't know if you're still watching.
	You sent that in like two hours ago.
	Thank you, man.
	And Daniel, thank you for the 10.
	Appreciate it, man.
	And Michael and Curtis, thank you for the 10 on Venmo.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Guys, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Pull that up.
	Guys, it's been two hours since we had a Prime sub.
	I think it's Bugged Boys.
	If you guys can just drop some Prime sub, really appreciate it.
	Also, you can get some merch shop.whatever.com.
	You can join our Discord, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	And like the video if you're enjoying the stream.
	Rip Party Fell.
	Okay.
	So, let's see here.
	Oh, Past Should Not Matter.
	Why is that?
	I would want someone to have figured out what they like and they don't like and almost get it out of their system before meeting me.
	I think I'm totally fine.
	Do you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	I think that people who make it a really, really big deal are focusing on the wrong thing.
	Huge deal.
	Yeah.
	Huge deal.
	Yeah.
	Focusing on the wrong thing.
	Yeah.
	I think there's more important things than someone's sexual history.
	There could be.
	What do you think?
	It matters to an extent.
	I mean, it's not like end-all-be-all, but it matters.
	Can I just have you the little applesauce thing?
	Just put it just throw it on the ground is fine.
	On the ground is fine.
	Yeah, it matters.
	I think what's more important is getting a current read.
	It's not, well, it's about feelings, but it's about going to the doctor together and getting an STI panel and having a conversation, being like, where are you right now?
	Yeah.
	Maybe you had a past, but where are you right now?
	Yeah.
	And if you're compatible.
	Okay.
	I don't want to be with someone that hasn't been with a lot of people.
	Because I've been with a lot of people.
	Yeah.
	I'm not afraid to say that.
	I would rather be with someone that was on the same level of my life.
	You want a man hoe.
	You want someone to match your treat.
	He doesn't have to be a hoe, but I want somebody that's been around.
	Okay, all right.
	He knows what he's doing.
	He's going.
	Look, you know, I guess going around the table, what's your body count starting with Mary?
	No, what's your body count, Brian?
	Go ahead.
	Under 20.
	100, huh?
	Body count?
	Like five, I think.
	Five, you think.
	Wait, five do you think?
	Five.
	Five.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	One.
	Mary, could you just fix her mic a little bit?
	One?
	Okay, what about you?
	Around 40.
	Around 40, okay.
	What about you?
	I don't think I'm willing to say.
	Wait, you were just saying, like, you want to.
	What was she saying?
	I forgot.
	But it doesn't matter to me, like, what someone else's body count is.
	I don't want to be.
	I don't want to be put on the chopping block just to get it.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Did you forget how much?
	I legitimately do not know.
	Wait, did you do escorting or no?
	Listen.
	Uh-oh.
	Listen.
	I've had a history of, you know, being a sex worker and being a stripper and being very promiscuously putting myself out there online.
	Wait, one question really quick.
	Has anybody else here ever done any escorting?
	No?
	Okay.
	So, okay, you were escorting.
	But I wouldn't specifically say that I am or was an escort.
	I would say more so like sugar dating or just my experience being a stripper.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Within 30 minutes of having sex with a man, did he present to you cash?
	That's not how it works for me.
	That's not how I operate.
	Did they swipe a credit card or they do a deposit?
	Listen, that's not how you take Bitcoin or the sugar dating is more of a Bitcoin.
	Sugar dating is more of a scenario of somebody giving you an allowance and then taking you out on a certain amount of dates.
	It doesn't necessarily mean that there's sex or no sex.
	It just means that like they're paying you for the opportunity to take you on a date and get to know you.
	Okay.
	That's what that's about.
	Do you want to do a range for the body count?
	I would say it's less than 100.
	Less than 100.
	Yeah.
	More than?
	Probably more than 80.
	Okay, so between 80 and 100.
	Yeah.
	Solid.
	Lexi, what's your TikTok name?
	Fuck with Lexi or that bitch Lexi.
	That bitch Lexi.
	That bitch Lexi.
	Yes.
	It was Jackson Dart's girlfriend, but I changed that.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, she's down that.
	Hey, get your phone.
	Go slide in his DMs.
	We got you.
	Okay, all right.
	You use it for me.
	We'll hype you up.
	We'll hype you up.
	Okay, okay.
	I'll link you up.
	All right, Me the cash in your wall before I do this.
	So, okay, body count.
	That's what I want to say.
	Do you want to do a range?
	It's low.
	Are you a virgin?
	Yes.
	Are you an effeminate?
	You're fucking, aren't you?
	It's a female in so.
	I just don't know what that means.
	Wait, you've never heard it.
	Actually, not involuntary.
	No.
	I don't know these buzzwords.
	It just means involuntarily celibate.
	So basically, like you're celibate, you can't get laid.
	No, I have had sex before.
	It is above one.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I know.
	I'm so proud of you.
	Huge.
	Have you ever had a ho-fais or anything like that?
	Like, not like with sex, like talking to people.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Body count?
	What's wrong?
	I don't know the exact number, but I'm guessing a little bit over 20.
	A little over 20.
	So 20 to 30.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, there it is.
	So I guess just for everybody, this isn't directed at anybody in particular.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	What the?
	That would be nice.
	You would not be getting laid.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	That's hilarious.
	That was directed towards me.
	Okay.
	Not everything's about you.
	You looked at my direction.
	Oh, it's not directed at anybody.
	Let's see.
	Okay, finish.
	Oh, we had to.
	Oh, my goodness.
	We have to do the questions.
	We're going to do some questions very quick.
	Rapid fire.
	This is rapid fire, guys.
	I want quick answers.
	Quick answers.
	We did World War I, World War II.
	Did we do?
	No, no.
	Okay, just that.
	Name three countries besides the USA, and you can't repeat.
	Australia, Germany, and New Zealand.
	Italy, Indonesia, China.
	Belize, Mexico, and Colombia.
	El Salvador, China, and Korea.
	Wait, was that a repeat?
	No, I said China.
	Oh, Japan.
	Okay.
	Qatar, Malaysia, Canada.
	Chile, Peru, Argentina.
	Mary?
	No?
	Oh.
	Mary's opting out.
	Oh, North America, South America.
	Dutch.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm zone out.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I apologize.
	Flip that shit.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	Flip it and ship it, Mary.
	I'm the diver.
	I am.
	I'm retarded.
	This is true.
	Self-diagnosis.
	Just self-diagnosed.
	Okay, go completely push.
	Okay.
	Here, I'll just move on to the next one.
	How many.
	I'm going to pick somebody.
	How many continents are there?
	Seven.
	Okay, good.
	You got it right.
	Going around the table, name one continent.
	One continent?
	One continent.
	Australia.
	Europe.
	Antarctica.
	Asia.
	South America.
	North America.
	I want to kill myself.
	Come on.
	You are Mary.
	Mary.
	Antarctica.
	No, is that that one?
	Oh, yeah.
	You got it.
	Hey, get us a pizza.
	Okay, make him do it.
	Can you get us pizza or something?
	Can you get us food?
	Yes, pizza.
	Are you guys hungry?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yay!
	I don't know what's open.
	You go.
	Don't say name.
	You know what?
	I don't know what's open.
	I don't even know which one's.
	I'm kind of still.
	I'll walk in.
	Just check.
	Yeah, we'll just do.
	Anybody like doesn't eat pepperoni or anything like that?
	I love pepperoni.
	Okay, we'll just do a large pepperoni pizza.
	You can, Mary, you just pick one.
	Hey.
	No, I have to get our drive.
	Make him say the last continent first.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm not getting out of that.
	That's the last continent.
	Wait, yeah, closer to the end.
	All the ones besides the last one.
	Oh, come on.
	Just hold the ones besides when we're going to say.
	Wait, wait, let's do this.
	Repeat it, and then we'll have a little bit of a pause.
	Okay, okay.
	I said Australia.
	Europe.
	Antarctica.
	Asia.
	South America.
	North America.
	Dog.
	There's only one left.
	I actually don't even know what we're missing.
	Are there two left?
	No, there's one left.
	There's only one though.
	Come on.
	I'm not sure which one we're missing to be hard.
	Oh, don't be afraid.
	I'll give you a hint.
	It's where your ancestors are probably from.
	That's right.
	You're fucking with us.
	List them again.
	Oh, my God.
	Sure, why not?
	Oh, that's a bad luck.
	One more time.
	One more time.
	Listen.
	Australia.
	Yeah.
	Europe.
	Oh, wait, you said Europe?
	You said Europe.
	I didn't say that.
	Yes, I did.
	I've said Europe all three times.
	Run it back.
	She said Antarctica.
	I said Europe.
	And I said Asia.
	I said Europe.
	I'm in South America.
	Thank you.
	Oh, no, Europe.
	There we go.
	No, no, there was a Europe.
	There's my God.
	Are you?
	I can't tell.
	I can't tell.
	No, he's being dead out.
	It's not Europe.
	She said Europe.
	I thought it was Europe.
	It's not Europe.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	It's Africa.
	It's Africa.
	Africa.
	Yeah, bro.
	I can't do that at all.
	I know.
	I am not repeating Europe again.
	List Africa.
	We know.
	Nobody said Africa.
	Oh, fuck.
	Are you still drive?
	I was going to fuck.
	I fucked that shit up too.
	I fucked it up.
	Okay.
	What two?
	What two countries border the USA?
	Mexico and Canada.
	Okay.
	How many states in the USA?
	50.
	Okay.
	What is the capital of the USA?
	Washington, D.C. How many stars are on the U.S. flag?
	50.
	Let's see.
	Where do I begin?
	Okay.
	He laughed.
	I was like, we can just say that.
	This will be, I guess, what is 34 plus 66?
	Oh, 100.
	Good job.
	What century are we in?
	We're in the 21st.
	Okay.
	How many in one dozen?
	12.
	What year was the United States?
	Trump's cognitive 1776.
	Who did the U.S. gain its independence from?
	Oh, the British.
	Who was the first president of the USA?
	George Washington.
	What country is the Great Wall of China in?
	Oh, my God.
	China?
	How many inches and a feet?
	In a feet?
	In a foot.
	In a feet, yes.
	In a feet.
	That's 12.
	How many seasons are there?
	Four.
	How many days in a year?
	365.
	How many letters in the alphabet?
	36.
	26?
	26.
	Hey, don't help each other.
	How many days of the week end with the letter Y?
	All of them.
	Seven.
	What's a shape with four sides called?
	Square.
	How long does each president serve their term?
	Four years.
	What language do the people in Idaho speak?
	English.
	What ocean is California next to?
	Pacific.
	What is half of one million?
	500,000.
	We're cooking.
	How many years in a decade?
	How many years in a decade?
	10.
	How many are in a century?
	100.
	If a dozen eggs costs $3, how much is each egg?
	Nobody help.
	Wait, hold on.
	Before you got it.
	She got to do the math.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Let me do the math.
	She's a picking.
	Okay, so it's $3 and there's 12 eggs.
	Yeah.
	How much is each egg?
	Do you need it?
	Okay, we'll be quiet.
	We'll be quiet.
	Well, fuck.
	That's kind of.
	Okay, okay.
	So if there's a dozen, there'd be.
	I'm just going to guess 40 cents before I do the math.
	Or 30 to 40 cents.
	Probably 30 cents.
	Excuse me.
	Okay, 25.
	There you go.
	25 years.
	What is the closest star to Earth?
	The sun.
	How many degrees is a full rotation of a circle?
	360.
	If you're walking perfect north and you turn right 90 degrees, which direction are you now going?
	East.
	What year, do you know what year the war of 1812 started?
	No, actually, I don't.
	Got this.
	What about you?
	1912?
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let you down with a toughie.
	That was a tough one.
	What country is the Panama Canal in?
	You got this.
	No hints.
	Don't hint.
	No hints.
	Panama.
	Good job.
	Yes.
	Where did the attack on Pearl Harbor take place?
	Honolulu.
	Hawaii.
	I will accept it.
	Thank you.
	You could have said Pearl Harbor, but that works.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I'll accept your answer.
	Your answer is that.
	Yeah, that's correct.
	What country did the Vietnam War happen in?
	Vietnam.
	How much is a quarter of an hour?
	15 minutes.
	What is 100 minus 34?
	You're giving her all the math questions, baby.
	100 minus 30.
	Oh, 66.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What is 3 times 3 plus 1?
	3 times.
	Oh, 10.
	What's 3 times 3 times 3?
	9.
	Oh, 9 times 3.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, not 9.
	It's 3 times 3.
	Hey, shut up there.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Quick maps.
	She practiced.
	What does YES spell?
	Yes.
	Yep.
	If you were born 10 years ago, how old would you be today?
	10.
	And we got the college student over here.
	Some real advanced.
	Yeah, I know.
	Quick math.
	How many world wars were there?
	Two.
	I was about to say three.
	Hopefully not.
	We already did the date.
	Okay, these are dating related.
	What percentage of men do you think are over six feet starting with you?
	In the world or the U.S.?
	Let's say the United States.
	God, 30?
	30%?
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	10 to 15.
	Okay.
	I was going to say 10.
	10?
	Probably like 5.
	5?
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah, my number's way too high.
	20.
	10.
	Okay.
	It's about 15.
	15%.
	What percent of men make at least $1 million a year starting with you?
	0.001%.
	I don't think that a lot of men make that much.
	I don't think it's that low, but what percent of men at least make at least $1 million a year?
	I'm sorry.
	Nala's threw me off.
	Over a million dollars a year?
	Yeah, what percent of men?
	In the United States?
	Yeah.
	Oh, in the United States.
	I thought you meant the world.
	Just guess.
	Let's say 0.1%.
	Less than 1%.
	Say 2%.
	2%?
	1.
	0.1%.
	Okay.
	What percent of men have yachts in the United States, I guess?
	Probably what I said before, like 0.001%.
	What do you think?
	Less than 1%.
	0.01%.
	Probably like 3-2.
	3-2%?
	Yeah.
	2-3.
	Less than 1%.
	0.1.
	Okay.
	Who here, I'm not going to ask you to show it to me.
	Or wait.
	Well, you don't have to show it to me.
	You want to.
	Have large light.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Keep a list of all the men you've been with.
	Do I keep a list of like written like okay, there was Jack, there was Jack and there was five out of ten.
	Fucking Bartholomew and Eduardo or some shit.
	I don't know.
	Anybody keep a list on their phone?
	I have.
	You have it currently?
	No, no, not current.
	Not on my phone.
	I have like a notebook.
	A notebook?
	Okay.
	Do you have it with you?
	No.
	Bring it next time.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Have you ever had a roster?
	As in multiple options?
	Sure.
	Like sleeping with multiple men at the same, not like an orgy.
	Oh, you've done that?
	I've had an orgy.
	You've had group sex?
	I've had a lesbian orgy.
	It was really nice.
	Okay.
	No, I would not say I've had a roster.
	Okay.
	Have you ever had a roster?
	No, like talking to multiple people, but not like dating or going on dates.
	No.
	It's too much work.
	You have time.
	No.
	No.
	Everyone's fucking lying except for me.
	I swear to God.
	Yeah.
	How big was the roster?
	Wasn't that like three?
	Biggest ever, though.
	Like having sex with all of them, or are you just talking about talking?
	Both.
	I'm considering a roster of both.
	Both.
	No.
	I think a roster is both.
	Or like people you have that you could hit up if you need it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like your last slider, baby.
	Unless it's considering like only sex.
	I've probably had a roster in the past, but if it's talking to people, I'd say it's more current.
	Okay.
	Have you ever slept with someone the same day you met them?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What is the quickest?
	One night stand.
	I tried it, didn't like it.
	But I mean, like, maybe you met on Tinder or whatever it is.
	So I would count it like, okay, from the moment that they walk through the door or whatever, or however you met, maybe you met at a party or something.
	It was from meet in person for first time to sex.
	Same night, but do you need like how many hours?
	20 minutes, five minutes.
	Probably like a good couple hours.
	A couple hours.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Friend of a friend.
	Probably like two weeks.
	Two weeks, okay, what about you?
	Quickest?
	12 hours.
	12 hours?
	Yeah.
	But didn't you use to escort?
	Escorting doesn't necessarily mean that there's anything in planning.
	And I didn't say I was an escort.
	I said I did like the sugar baby thing.
	It's a little different.
	I guess it's a bit different.
	Say one, two hours.
	One to two hours?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you, quickest?
	Four months.
	One day.
	One day.
	All right.
	Like, same day?
	Well, it was the same day.
	Yeah.
	So, like, two hours, three hours?
	How many hours are we talking?
	I don't know, like, six.
	Six, okay.
	Anyone here ever had a threesome?
	A few.
	Threesome.
	Or more.
	Yeah.
	I can't remember.
	You can't remember?
	I have a vague memory.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	Have you ever seen it?
	I'm sorry, bro.
	Like, how big was it?
	It was more than the threesome, right?
	I've had a few things.
	I've had a couple threesomes and I've had a one lesbian five-way so orgy.
	Good times.
	I have.
	I have had a threesome one time.
	How about this?
	Has anyone here hooked up with two guys in the 24-hour period?
	Actually, yeah.
	Surprised myself a ton.
	24-hour.
	24-hour.
	Even three.
	Yeah.
	Three in the 24-hour?
	What's the most?
	You really got that roster on lock, dude.
	What's the most?
	Ooh.
	Probably in 24 hours?
	Yeah.
	I'd say max four, but probably three.
	Okay.
	No.
	More than three guys in 24 hours?
	No.
	Okay, but two in 24 hours.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Are men the problem?
	No.
	Sometimes.
	You say men are evil, I think.
	Okay, I said men are getting more evil.
	Yeah.
	There's another.
	And it's a fact.
	Can you just find your TikTok?
	Find this group.
	Find it.
	Find her TikTok.
	It's a fact.
	No, I'm not going to.
	We're probably not going to watch the video, but I'm trying to find it.
	We all do.
	Yeah, I said, or evil.
	And it's fucking true.
	Yeah.
	These men play dirty now.
	They play dirty.
	Yeah.
	They're like whole bitches.
	And I'm not about that.
	They act like bitches now.
	They act like fucking bitches.
	They want to be.
	I know.
	It's horrible.
	It's horrible.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Well, yeah, just show we're not going to play it.
	So you can mute the audio temporarily.
	And I also sent you the actual, yeah, just show.
	Yeah, I just showed.
	Oh, my God.
	Men are getting more evil.
	But then, Nick, just click on her profile.
	But it's so true.
	Yes, follow me.
	Follow back.
	All right.
	Scroll down.
	Oh, yeah.
	Is the audio muted?
	Yeah.
	Click on the one that the fifth one over.
	I'll follow you too.
	Yes.
	Yeah, it says be nice, Brian.
	Yes, men are evil.
	Hey, that's not just more evil.
	You're saying men are evil.
	That's different.
	Okay, like, do I look sober enough that you're no?
	Just saying.
	Okay.
	Are men the problem?
	I think men are the solution.
	Okay, good answer, I guess.
	Sometimes women can sometimes be the problem, too.
	I think it goes both way.
	All right, what do you think?
	I say it depends.
	Yeah.
	Damn, it depends.
	It depends.
	Shit.
	Do men suck?
	Sometimes.
	In general.
	In my personal experience, I think it's 50-50.
	50% of men suck.
	Okay, what do you think?
	Everyone sucks.
	You suck?
	Yeah.
	Sometimes now.
	What?
	I have a generally positive view of men.
	When I say they suck sometimes, for sure.
	Okay, what about you?
	Also, sometimes.
	Okay.
	Women suck sometimes too.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	What do you think?
	They suck just as much as women.
	Are men trash?
	50-50.
	They can be.
	50-50-50.
	I don't know about, I disagree with 50%.
	50% of men or what?
	50-50 as in there are equal amount of trash men as there are trash women.
	There's something that's gone viral a few times on TikTok.
	TikTok is really toxic, by the way.
	Yeah, facts.
	There's this like, men who aren't trash don't get upset when women say men are trash.
	Agree or disagree?
	Agree.
	Lexi, thoughts?
	Wait, repeat the question.
	Yeah, so there's like these TikTok.
	It's just like a stupid saying or whatever.
	Men who aren't trash don't get upset when women say men are trash.
	Agree or disagree?
	Do you agree with that sentiment or disagree?
	Agree, sure.
	Okay, what about you?
	I don't think that men are trash.
	Yeah, I don't think.
	Oh, I guess I'm confused.
	How the hell am I supposed to answer that?
	Oh my god.
	I don't think you have to.
	You're permanently gangly.
	You're fucking permabate.
	Oh, God.
	It's true, though.
	It's true.
	I charge $20 per laugh, by the way.
	Oh, my God.
	She took all my money already for this.
	I'm broke.
	My raindrop.
	She done enough.
	You blew your load right away.
	You should have held.
	You should have laughed.
	You got an edge.
	I think my issue with that though, you were saying you guys agree with the, okay, yeah.
	Men who aren't trash don't get offended when women say men are all men are trash or whatever.
	I don't know if we were to say, like, I think saying, for example, and I disagree with this, saying that women are trash, that's wrong.
	I disagree with that.
	But I think there's this sort of social acceptance of shitting on men or hating men or having like prejudice towards men that is somewhat socially acceptable, socially allowed.
	It's socially fashionable, even, especially for more like left-leaning liberal people to have this sort of like clear, obvious disdain and contempt for men.
	And so I don't know.
	I think that if we were to say that, would they say the same thing about, like, for example, just reframing it, women who aren't trash don't get offended when men say all women are trash.
	And I'm like, I don't think that women would agree with that.
	Like, if you're not a trashy woman, you, I think you're within, well, whether you're a trashy woman or not, I think you can feel justified in objecting to saying that all women are trash or all if we reverse it, all men are trash.
	I mean, generalizations are bad.
	That's a generalization, but I think, yeah.
	But the same people that would say, well, hold on, trashy, men who aren't trashy wouldn't be offended or aren't offended when women say, all men are trash.
	And I think those same women would be very upset, regardless of whether they're trashy or not, if a man were to say, all women are trash, right?
	And so it's just this kind of a bit of a double standard.
	I don't really know.
	But also, I think you say men are trash.
	Logically, you say men are trash.
	Not you, but a woman.
	You say men are trash or all men are trash.
	I am a man by extension.
	Therefore, you're saying I am trash.
	This is logically inescapable.
	So this idea that, oh, you shouldn't be offended.
	No, I think it's fine to be offended by this or to at least object to it in some regard.
	You want pizza?
	I'm good.
	Thanks.
	You're watching your shape.
	Yeah, yeah.
	With the modeling of it.
	I'm definitely watching my shape.
	So I'm joining my home.
	Can I add something to the trash talk?
	Yeah, I want to go to it.
	I used to be a man-hating feminist.
	Oh, shit.
	I used to be.
	Yes, she was.
	I read a book last year.
	Who?
	Which book?
	It's called The Will to Change, Men, Masculinity, and Love by Bell Hooks.
	And it's about how feminism has failed men.
	I mean, that's a component of the book.
	It's about learning how to love men.
	Okay.
	And I realized that a lot of the things that I didn't like about men, I was reinforcing with my crazy man-hating feminist bullshit.
	And so once I looked at it from a different perspective, I realized men deserve love too.
	And I know that that probably sounds obvious, but it's actually like in our day-to-day lives, we deprive men of like emotional security.
	And women, we provide each other with like, You know, in a lot of instances, like this automatic, like emotional understanding of, like, yes, queen, yes, like, I support.
	Girl, girl, or whatever.
	Yeah.
	What do men have to give them, like, security emotionally in society?
	I feel like, you know, a lot of times they seek it through women and then to have like women turn around and be like, oh, men are just trash.
	It's like, well, you know, maybe we should take a little bit of time and try, at least try to understand men.
	And yeah, we need to love men.
	I think those are some beautiful points that you touched on.
	I think oftentimes people are just misunderstood, just genders in general.
	And I feel like it's really only a minority of people who really hate on the other sex or other individuals, really.
	And I think it's really beautiful that we're all here coming together and sharing our inputs and perspectives on life.
	Even if they're different.
	So I think that's great.
	Word?
	Word, yeah.
	Hate is lame.
	And I thought I was the hippie.
	Let's see here.
	That was lit.
	So lit.
	So base.
	The final of these rapid fire questions.
	If you could snap your finger and all men disappeared and women could reproduce without men, would you do it?
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	No.
	Okay.
	What if they just get sent to an island?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	All right.
	I mean, am I going to the island too?
	Is it like a vacation?
	Airbnb.
	Welcome.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	We're going to rapid fire through some of your stuff.
	Let's do her tweets.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	Oh, yeah, I do.
	I don't even remember half the shit I tweet.
	I usually do it on an edible.
	Oh.
	We're going to just, and you're going to read them, okay?
	Just read them super quickly.
	I'm narrate though.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was when I was still drinking.
	Shit posting because perhaps I am cross, but personally, I don't think I will settle for anything less than a man who is humble enough to get on his knees and beg for mere eye contact whenever I damn please.
	Damn.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	Next.
	Never having sex with a man in my life again unless he can prove he voted for Kamala.
	Is that actually true?
	I stand by that.
	I think that I would want a man who had voted for Kamala.
	What if he voted for Trump 22?
	Definitely, definitely not.
	Okay.
	What if he changed his views?
	Huh?
	What if he changed his views?
	Yeah, no, that I can totally hold space for, but I think that we're probably not compatible if he voted for Trump.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I mean, it pans out.
	It makes sense.
	Yeah, I don't think I'm a Trump supporters type per se.
	Yeah.
	It's not really.
	Oh, guys, we're going to lower the TTS to 69.
	That's going to be the.
	That is going to be.
	Hold on, let me do this.
	Also.
	Oh, shit, I need to fix that.
	I want to specify that the shit I tweet is for my job.
	It's for promotion.
	It's about getting engagement.
	I just, it's part of the job.
	You just got to say shit.
	$69 TTS, $69 TTS.
	We will not be lowering it.
	So if you want to get a roast in, it's going to be a $69 TTS.
	Let me just make sure I got that all set up.
	It should be all good to go if anybody wants to get something in next tweet, and then we'll have you continue reading it.
	Need my man bricked up from just eye contact from me.
	I stand by that.
	I feel like that's a big ask, you know, just looking at your eyes.
	I haven't had an issue with it in the past.
	So just eye contact is?
	You do it right?
	Just.
	Can you demonstrate on Lexi?
	Demonstrate on me.
	I'm a fold.
	I don't think I can do it seriously.
	Can women get bricked up?
	Technically, yes.
	Technically, right now your clit actually swells up if you're back.
	Okay, Lexi.
	All right.
	Not yours, but you know.
	You're pussy and swole.
	Next.
	Swole, just heavy little big pussy, baby.
	Next.
	Big clit.
	Yeah, I think this is still when I was just read it though, read it.
	TBH kind of feeling like tying a man up and just using him as my personal sex toy whenever I want, or is that too much to ask for?
	Why did you laugh, Lexi?
	Are you crazy?
	You need to put on the internet.
	This is a crazy thing.
	Do you relate to this at all?
	She's either resting.
	No, tweets.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	I'd be like, why am I still single?
	And then remember that I don't really respond to messages on my phone and actively enjoy intimidating any man that actually is the balls.
	So speak to me, TBH.
	I think I'm just super picky because I know exactly what I want.
	Going back to 2023?
	I think so.
	Yeah, dude, 2023, dude, I was, men, if you think you deserve my attention, send me $20.
	Otherwise, STFU.
	Did you give me cash?
	No.
	I also don't have a quarter on me.
	Venmo?
	Okay, next.
	If I have a baby boy one day, I'm not circumcising him.
	I decided to do it.
	I agree with you on that.
	Circumcision is actually, yeah.
	That can like fuck with your senses, huh?
	Or stimulation.
	Okay, we'll do two more on those.
	You guys really went telling him a good boy, so even at his best, he still knows he's a dog.
	LOL.
	You guys should know from my tweets, my customer base are good boys.
	I'll read this one.
	I hate being celibate.
	Why can't I find a lover who wants to fuck the shit out of me every night?
	And the little powdery reading.
	You can close all of those out.
	So you've been selling, like, since you wrote that tweet, nothing.
	Nothing.
	Well, I mean, celibate.
	No.
	I say celibate because I like how it sounds.
	Abstinent, technically.
	I still do the downstairs DJ.
	Ooh.
	You closed it out entirely.
	Do you know how to get back?
	All the streams.
	Wait, Nick.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Pull up OBS first.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Show me OBS.
	Well, no, no, no.
	That's been a great night.
	Nick, you gotta hit the eyeball there.
	It's been a great night.
	Do you know how to get it?
	Yeah.
	Okay, all right.
	You'll be able to get it.
	Let me do some messages coming through.
	We have Christopher.
	Christopher donated $70.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	You and him arrive back home from a date to see the house is on fire.
	The dog is burning and there's no time to wait.
	The fire department go inside to find the dog or just him.
	Yeah, you can minimize.
	Just put it at 11.
	Okay.
	Can I answer this one?
	Whoa.
	I think neither of us should go inside to save the dog.
	Wow.
	That's my hot take.
	Yeah, neither of us should risk our lives.
	Do you have any pets?
	Yes.
	I have a cat.
	And so fuck the cat.
	If I could save him and be and know that I could safely grab him quickly on my way out, hell yeah, I'd save him.
	But if it was a situation where we got home and the house was burning already and its dog was inside and I knew that like one of us would probably not make it if we went inside if there was like any doubt.
	I mean like yeah, our lives are more important than the pet's life.
	Sorry.
	That's just how I feel.
	Your cat's gonna cancel you.
	I think he'd understand.
	Yeah, probably.
	He couldn't save me.
	I mean, if he's already dead in a house fire, you know.
	He'd probably do the same thing.
	Yeah, cat, go.
	Yeah.
	Oh, we need to finish off.
	We did the TikToks.
	We did the tweets.
	There's like maybe a few more videos.
	Oh, boy.
	TikToks or videos?
	I got to stop shit posting.
	Yeah, she's got a few more videos.
	Yeah, let's show them really quick.
	This one's so funny.
	We don't even need to play it.
	You got the point.
	No, no, no.
	I think you should listen to it because I think it's.
	I make myself.
	I make myself laugh.
	Go ahead, play it.
	I don't really understand why cucks get so much shit when they're honestly like top of the food chain.
	Like, if any guy is like, yo, I just fed your B or I'm gonna F your B.
	A cuck is like, yeah, could I watch?
	Like, you cannot phase them.
	I don't know, man.
	I love cucks.
	You guys are awesome.
	Yikes.
	That's not like an own for a cuck to say that.
	That's like a major L.
	To you.
	To everyone in society who has a functioning brain.
	That's your opinion.
	I think that if you're someone who actually gets off on watching somebody else have sex with your wife and you're comfortable enough, I mean, there's.
	Can you agree that if someone is sexually interested in that and that all parties are consenting, like, what's the issue?
	If all parties are consenting, what's the issue?
	Yeah, it's somebody else fucking your wife.
	But what if I?
	I'm not saying me, but I'm saying from a cuck's perspective, but that's.
	Thank you.
	Look, there's just certain things.
	I don't care if you're trad, I don't care if you're a soy boy, lib, whatever the fuck.
	There's just certain things as a man, you can't let somebody else fuck your woman.
	Yeah.
	I think that's your perspective.
	Yeah.
	No, I just think that that's like majority of men's perspective.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	I don't think cucks are a large percentage.
	I just think that it's really interesting that someone is able to be okay with that.
	I just find that interesting.
	And also, I'm mostly trolling in these videos.
	Yeah, that's crazy, though.
	People are actually cucks.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy, man.
	That's sad.
	Oh, huh.
	Sometimes I have to stop and just laugh like that.
	I'm a professional hot person.
	Well, that was my job.
	It's like, I don't know what qualifications I got.
	I do not feel hot today.
	I feel like I'm about to start my period.
	I haven't showered in three days.
	I don't know if you can tell.
	I am crazy.
	I knew about it, but I'm kind of losing my shit a little bit.
	Me and this girl, we share one brain cell and she's the primary account holder.
	Oh, shit.
	Right?
	Your dog is a little bit more.
	Stop romanticizing all the people in your phone.
	She's the hot people.
	I know.
	I'm just so perfect and so humble.
	You're literally just dudes.
	I literally take my chair.
	I wonder, should we just have her do a cameo?
	Today, she's not even up.
	We'll have her say over there.
	You're standing.
	She's very sweet.
	She's very sweet.
	Thank you.
	She's really sweet.
	She's a sweetheart.
	Next one.
	Professional girl.
	Is that what you said?
	I like to.
	I make myself laugh.
	Oh, this one, yeah.
	I know I'm the problem because I was just thinking, I don't think I could ever date a corn star, like a guy doing corn, right?
	You do corn.
	But I would want your partner to make corn with me.
	Crazy, man.
	Crazy.
	I get it.
	Yeah.
	And like, that's how we look.
	Okay.
	That's the fucking dream.
	That's the opposite of my date.
	You would want a porn star boyfriend?
	I just want somebody that's like equally open.
	Next.
	Whatever.
	We get the gist.
	I talk a lot.
	That's it.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Hey, okay.
	That was good.
	We have a few more notes here.
	I want to get to everybody, but we're pretty close to wrapping up here.
	Let's see.
	I'm just going to finish up your notes, then I'll get into the rest.
	You have underwear that reads, I am God.
	Yeah.
	I think on your Instagram.
	What's that about?
	Do you think you're a god?
	Are you religious or what?
	I would consider myself spiritual, but not religious.
	My friend got me those for my birthday.
	I just think that they're cute.
	Okay.
	I also, my primary clientele is like guy, like more submissive men and guys that are like, that's why a lot of my content is all about like soft dominatrix kind of vibes.
	Yeah.
	Really quick, just we won't linger, but on the red pill topic that we do you think that would you say the same thing about feminism?
	Would I say what about so you said you think the rise of click, clickbait, rage bait, red pill content is detrimental to the young, mostly boy viewers who consume it.
	Do you think in that same vein, feminism is detrimental to the young, mostly women who consume it?
	I guess you could say.
	I think that that's actually can happen.
	I think that, you know, being like, all men are trash, fuck all men, I hate all men, all of these things, it isn't setting women up to have, you know, healthy, good expectations that there are.
	Like, I have amazing men in my life.
	My father's amazing.
	My brother's amazing.
	The people that I have been coached by and my teachers, yeah, amazing.
	But if you say all men are trash, all men are shit, fuck all men, I think that's that to me isn't feminism.
	I understand that that's you know what they're branding themselves at.
	I don't think that content's productive for the species as a whole.
	Is the pizza in the refrigerator?
	It's actually all gone.
	Oh, it's all finished.
	Okay, never mind that.
	Okay, there were a few more for you, but I think just for sake of time, we'll move it on.
	If you ever want to come back, you were wonderful.
	We'd be happy to get into it again.
	Zara, you're a rapper.
	I forgot about it.
	I thought you were a singer.
	You were actually a rapper.
	Can we get a bar?
	I was.
	Yeah.
	He wants a bar.
	Yeah, drop some bars.
	Is that how the cool people say it?
	Yeah.
	I am Dale the weight.
	I intimidate her.
	You could never run for me.
	I always find you later.
	Call of Duty.
	I am not a team player.
	I will grab you by the neck and dispatch you like a rooster.
	Oh, this look, I call it Baba Dook.
	Spooky, sparry.
	I'm getting spooky, scary skeletons.
	I got these bitches shook.
	She thought she heard of me.
	You read it in a book, and ain't a damn thing changed.
	Y'all just let a bitch cook.
	Yeah, Elliot.
	Elliot.
	That was a rap, I think.
	That was.
	I like, I fuck with it.
	That was a rap.
	Do you have a single or?
	Yeah, I just put out a single.
	Okay.
	It's on my YouTube and my Instagram if you want to check it out.
	Oh, we need to do this.
	We do a segment at the end of the show.
	Hold on.
	We're going to.
	Called Everybody Removes Their Makeup.
	Who is Down to Man?
	I'm fucking.
	I've been itching.
	I'm ready to take this shit off.
	I'm not used to wearing it this long.
	Are you.
	I'm going to a party after this.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You did say that earlier.
	I cannot take my makeup off.
	No masters.
	No masters, no gods.
	Oh, wait.
	This is one.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	It's a.
	I don't have to.
	You worship the god of vanity.
	Oh, my God.
	You worship the god.
	I don't like a mirror though.
	No masters, my dear.
	Take the makeup off.
	You are not beholden to your physical appearance.
	We are going to transcend the third dimension.
	Take your makeup off.
	Were you a theater kid?
	You did a really good job with that.
	I am completing the fifth on that.
	You are.
	No gods.
	Look at your neck.
	No gods.
	No masters.
	I have to.
	I respectfully, I'll do it the next time I come here.
	Honestly, makeup is expensive to redo the whole look.
	I'm down for the round too, but I'm saying you should walk into that party confident as hell with your bare face, no makeup.
	Do not allow the god of vanity to you're a slave.
	You are a slave.
	No masters, no masters.
	It's a duality.
	You are a slave.
	Did you not pick up on that?
	Slave to the makeup, the paint.
	He was absolutely a theater kid.
	You are a slave.
	There's no fucking way.
	Take it off, my dear, and free yourselves.
	Free yourselves from the shackles of your mind.
	I think he's going to start serenading you next.
	The shackles.
	Okay, that's too late for this.
	Here, hold up the damn.
	I can see what I'm doing.
	Oh, you put it in the cup?
	Hold up.
	Hold up the damage to the camera.
	You aren't even wearing any makeup.
	No, I don't really wear makeup a lot.
	Hold up.
	Spread them.
	Spread them.
	Whoa, dude.
	Hold up.
	Damn it.
	Did you makeup?
	Yeah, it's not bad.
	It's not.
	I can't see what I'm doing.
	I feel like none of you are wearing makeup.
	Wait, did you take your lashes off too?
	Yeah.
	Where are they?
	Oh, my.
	Little caterpillars.
	Okay, that's cool.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Zara.
	Is it Zara or Zara?
	Zara.
	You can learn her name by the end.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Thank you.
	Am I still the five, Brian?
	A slave to how people perceive you.
	You're a slave to how people perceive you.
	No masters.
	No masters.
	Okay.
	Next time.
	My aunt made the same point.
	Next time, we'll run it.
	Okay.
	Absolutely.
	I'll take my wig off next time.
	You dated the same guy for the last eight years, but you guys recently broke up.
	Fun stories with him.
	We're not going to get into that, but every guy you've dated did music.
	Same with your bestie.
	One topic you'd be interested in speaking on, dating a straight man, and finding out that he's secretly gay by DL and the implications of this on the woke LGBTQ community.
	Absolutely.
	So you frequently date gay men?
	Listen, not intentionally.
	Accidentally.
	I'm going into these relationships with these men.
	This has happened to me multiple times where I'm like earnestly and honestly dating another person, a straight man.
	And like, you know, we'll go through the relationship, whatever.
	Like maybe he does something in the religion.
	I'll be like, hmm, that was kind of gay.
	Like, why did that happen?
	That was a little gay.
	And then afterwards, finding out that like he had been hooking up with dudes or like he had, you know, been doing stuff like that.
	Yeah, that's happened to me literally.
	At this point, this happened to me three times.
	That's fucked up.
	I've only had four boyfriends.
	Damn.
	This happened to me three times.
	I know.
	I keep.
	Well, you saw the picture of me as a man.
	Did he?
	Gay sound.
	Oh, bad.
	Did he?
	Isn't it?
	Don't they say he did some gay shit or something?
	I feel like that's not the worst thing that did.
	I watched the documentary last year.
	Gay shit is not the problem, I don't think.
	I think it's the spiking people's drinks and taking advantage of sexual that kind of stuff.
	That's pretty bad.
	Being gay.
	Listen, I don't have anything against men, straight men.
	Let's say.
	I don't have anything against straight men being bicurious or wanting to experiment with their sexuality.
	Just in the same way, I'm not bothered by it when women do it.
	But here's the thing: there's a culture around the DL men, around these like there is a culture of being secretly gay.
	That's scary.
	Yeah, there's actually a couple of studies we did.
	This is how conservative women.
	Shit.
	Well, I was going to say, you know, like this might be more of a worry if you're like a liberal woman dating like liberal men.
	Oh, honey.
	It is.
	I've heard some stories.
	I've heard some stories.
	With a conservative man, it's worse.
	Tinder crashed.
	Or sorry, grinder.
	It literally is worse.
	Grinder crashes.
	They really set Republican conventions.
	Yeah.
	The app crashes.
	Can I have Lexi?
	Can I have you read this?
	Yes.
	I think.
	Deeper.
	Go deep.
	Go as deep as possible.
	That's like the best we're going to get.
	Okay.
	Do it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I don't know if you're into this.
	Okay.
	I think red pill.
	I think red pill refers to understanding truth and operating in reality.
	People hate the red pill space because if there's truth, there's also lies.
	Denying reality and truth is how they justify their degeneracy and avoid taking accountability.
	Reading that Mr. North, Mr. North Umberland, 85.
	What a fucking, would you date this guy?
	Yeah, this guy.
	Can you see his profile picture?
	I'm a pet.
	I'm trying to.
	He's a good guy.
	He's a viewer.
	I'm trying to get him.
	You're trying to pimp him up.
	We gotta do the Asmund Gold thing.
	I'm gonna get him.
	We can't.
	That's as big as it gets.
	Just think though.
	But in terms of digs.
	He'll try to say that.
	He's got a dick pic saved, ready to luck and look.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, Brian's gonna actually say.
	You want me to link you up with him?
	That's funny.
	Like, you could talk to him, maybe.
	I don't know.
	You could at least hit him up a little bit.
	Like, for conversation.
	He's a nice guy.
	Thanks for the offer.
	Okay, I try to.
	I appreciate it.
	She's 19.
	Mary, in the Discord, in the Discord in the media.
	Okay, the media under resources.
	It's the second one up, the Asmund Gold video.
	And then you're going to put it in video tab.
	I'm going to put in video tab Mary Angelo.
	Wait, what is it in?
	Media.
	Resources.
	And do you see the media?
	Media right about right above memes.
	True queen.
	Thank you.
	Okay, it's the second one up, the Asmund Gold video.
	Okay, so this is a.
	I'm going to, I'm trying to, you know, wingman for this guy.
	So I'm going to, well, let's watch the video first.
	I think that the age video tab.
	Also, after that, get his Instagram going, I guess.
	All right.
	Well, we don't need the Instagram.
	The age of like me having girlfriends and like dating and shit is probably over.
	I mean, like, realistically, like, I am older, and I'm also very much a degenerate.
	I'm a weird-looking guy.
	You know, again, like, I try to look decent on my screen, but I'm a weird-looking guy.
	And so I don't really think about getting married or having kids.
	I mean, it's something I would want to have to do, but like, I just don't really think I don't see it happening if you want me to be honest.
	I don't think he's a weird-looking guy, but I think he's like a, you know, he could actually do some looks maxing and he'd be fine.
	So the question is: we got a lot of single ladies at the table tonight.
	I think everybody's single.
	Everyone's single.
	Yeah.
	Going around the table, that's Zach.
	He's a great guy.
	He's very successful.
	He's.
	No, thank you.
	What?
	Why is that?
	He got straight into it.
	I mean, how much older is he than me?
	First of all.
	I think he's 35.
	Yeah, that's probably the main thing.
	If he was age out of the question, if he was younger, would you just lie?
	He could lie about his age to you.
	Oh, that I love.
	That's my kink.
	If that helps.
	So, no.
	What about you, Lexi?
	Would youn't date him?
	No.
	What about just like a first date?
	You know?
	No.
	I don't live here.
	I live in Boston.
	Public humility.
	He's in Texas.
	Still, no.
	I'm in Boston.
	We could fly you to Texas.
	You guys want to pay for my.
	All right.
	Would you date him?
	Respectfully, I don't think Asmund Gold would want a woman like me.
	But if he did, if he was like, Zara Moon, I'm crazy about you.
	I might go on a date with Asmund Gold.
	Just knowing who he is.
	I'll go on a date with him.
	Try it out.
	Try it out.
	She's going to wear him out.
	No, because he said he's a degenerate.
	So that's.
	I don't know what he means by that, though.
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, and I don't want to fight him.
	Yeah, no degenerate.
	I don't think he drinks.
	I don't think he does drugs, as far as I know.
	So what is degenerate about him?
	I think he plays video games a lot.
	He doesn't leave the house, I think.
	He doesn't leave the house.
	He might have misused the word, but he lives in Texas.
	You're in Texas.
	I don't go to Houston.
	Where is he?
	He's in Austin, I think.
	She's 19.
	And I don't know.
	That's not Houston.
	I thought you said Houston.
	No, why wouldn't you date Asmund?
	Because I'm pregnant, so I'm just joking.
	That one's valid.
	That one's valid.
	For Jane.
	Yo.
	Yo, that was such a good colour.
	If you're not currently pregnant, would you?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	It depends.
	Into the microphone.
	Maybe, possibly, but I don't know.
	Maybe I would just go on a date, maybe, but I doubt it.
	You wouldn't, millionaire Asmund Gold wouldn't do it.
	Okay.
	Do you think he's like, how would you rate him on the scale of one to ten?
	Like, I don't know, like five.
	Okay, so he's your looks match, I guess.
	For you.
	Oh my god.
	She said she was a five.
	She said he was a five.
	To be upset about nothing to be upset about.
	Okay, okay.
	Hey, calm down a little bit over there.
	Okay, you're gonna be coming out and swing him there.
	You're a little crazy.
	Shit, wait, I had something on this, but I fuck.
	I totally forgot.
	Okay, no.
	And then, you know, oh, I remember because she's pregnant, right?
	We're going to get to your notes in just a moment.
	I actually think that pregnancy is the best form of birth control.
	It's a little late for that.
	Don't you think?
	You can't get double pregnant.
	No, because you're already pregnant.
	It's only nine months.
	I think it's a bit late.
	But it's like real taste is too much.
	Guys should not sleep on pregnant women.
	Why?
	Sleep with pregnant women.
	Pregnant women are hornier.
	Maybe.
	I don't know, though.
	They are.
	Well, whether they're horny or not.
	I know.
	I've been pregnant.
	If you're a guy and you're just looking for a little fun and you're like, hey, look, I don't want to get a woman pregnant.
	You can't get her pregnant twice.
	You can't get her pregnant twice.
	I'm just saying.
	I think it's going to ask a lot of a pregnant woman to want to have sex with just some dude.
	I mean, she's single and pregnant, though.
	Yeah.
	That's not the thing.
	Pregnancy's rough.
	I mean, I'm just saying, I'm just saying it's like, Hey, uh, you're single and pregnant.
	It's like, no, no, you're told what the fuck.
	What about my team?
	What's your opinion on this?
	Yeah.
	But she's single and pregnant.
	Barnard.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
	I guess.
	I mean, I guess it makes sense.
	I don't know.
	I'm not really focusing on trying to hook up with random dudes or whatever.
	Well, I'm not saying hook up with random dudes.
	I'm just saying, if hey, it's kind of a it's a bit of a benefit in the sense that you can't get her pregnant again.
	No, but you can you can get STDs and stuff like that, and that can go that can get to the baby and stuff.
	Vibrator won't get you pregnant.
	Good point.
	So, yes, that's true, but being pregnant with another man's baby has never stopped a woman from fucking another man.
	Okay, unless you're loyal in a committed relationship.
	No, but if the pregnant woman is single, all right, all right.
	Hey, if she's single, then it is what it is.
	Maybe they could be on.
	Calm down over there.
	You're getting a little crazy.
	I'm not kidding.
	Slow down there.
	Calm down.
	Calm down, bucko.
	Calm down.
	What if she's still in love with her baby daddy and wants to wait?
	All right.
	Well, and see where it goes, huh?
	Getting into Chantal, Chantal, Chantal?
	Yeah.
	Chantal.
	Yeah.
	That is a French name.
	Yeah, it is.
	Trebienessa?
	Okay.
	All the girls just totally got really excited after.
	Oh, I thought you were going to say dried up.
	That's so fun.
	I'm laughing.
	I make myself laugh.
	That's so funny.
	I know.
	We're laughing.
	I thought you would say that shit.
	That's kind of fucked up, honestly.
	You know what?
	I'll cry about it.
	Probably.
	Okay, so our dear Chantal, her notes, her engagement fell apart because her fiancé wanted a poly set up with two girlfriends.
	By the way, $69 TTS.
	After secretly, I mean, you've got fucking listening to me.
	He went.
	Very secretly.
	He didn't sleep with his toxic ex who cheated and lied on him before.
	He decided to loop her into the relationship, even suggesting you teach her to be better.
	Oh.
	When you wrote this, anyways, you were 13 weeks pregnant with his baby.
	It blindsided you.
	It shattered your heart since you're monogamous and utterly utterly against the betrayal.
	He was shocked.
	I wouldn't agree.
	Assuming my love for him meant I'd comply, but no.
	Complicating it further, the very next morning, after dropping this bomb the night before, he crashed his motorcycle badly.
	He'd left his phone behind, so for the first time ever, I checked it and discovered he has oral and genital herpes.
	Oh, fuck.
	No bueno.
	Excuse me.
	As well as an active dating account.
	I'm so sorry, man. I'm so sorry.
	Jesus.
	Did you get the herpes?
	No.
	I got tested right away.
	I didn't get it.
	Oh, thank God, dude.
	Wait, but how long were you dating this guy?
	Well, it was a short relationship.
	It was kind of a short relationship.
	I started dating him at the end of July.
	Bro, sue him.
	Damn.
	For not, that's endangering her.
	That's fucking.
	I feel like God disclosed, I guess.
	Yeah, he didn't tell her or disclose he had pregnant.
	He had to get this kid.
	Sue him!
	Can you tell us the, do you want me to say it, or do you want to tell us the story of, like, the eight-year ex?
	Oh, you can do it.
	You don't want to do it in your own words?
	I mean.
	Just tell us about the living situation.
	I had a boyfriend that for like eight years that lost his place.
	So I let him secretly live in my parents' house.
	Secretly.
	Yeah.
	Like a secret from the parents.
	Right, yeah.
	Like he, because he didn't have anywhere to go, and so he would have been on the streets because he lost everything.
	And so he, and while I would go to work, he would be in my room like really quiet during the day and stuff.
	And like whenever I'd have to be at home and open the door, like he'd hide under the he'd hide under the blankets, like in between the wall and the bed.
	Why didn't he work?
	Because he lacked motivation.
	I bet your parents felt like they were being gangstalked.
	I'd be like, what the hell?
	A whole other person living in my house.
	Oh, they didn't even know.
	Yeah.
	Poor parents.
	Living in the house.
	You hear him randomly while you're gone at work.
	They fucking hear him be like, what the fuck was that?
	There's people in the walls.
	Did your parents find that?
	Well, at the very end, because I told him because he was there after we broke up, I let him stay even longer, I guess, like a year.
	And then I started dating somebody else.
	And of course, I had to, you know, tell him to leave.
	And he'll keep going.
	And he ended up kind of like trashing my room.
	So like my mom ended up seeing like the whole mess.
	Like he left an entire mess.
	Oh man.
	Yeah.
	Dang.
	But for how long was he living at the parents' house for?
	Like years?
	Yeah, like three years.
	Wait, what?
	Without.
	And they didn't find out?
	He was super quiet during the day.
	And he wouldn't ever do anything.
	He was just wild.
	So in that three-year period, did he have a job?
	Wait, tell us about that.
	How would he use the bathroom?
	Oh, he would pee in bottles.
	Oh!
	Yeah.
	Real trucker shit.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I think he did.
	Did he drink them from them too?
	Like, he recycled the urine.
	Well, I mean, the truth is, he had like a drug problem too.
	So that's another reason why he was kind of in that situation.
	All right.
	Wow.
	Geez.
	Okay.
	Well, you deserve better than that.
	That's what I believe.
	You deserve way better than that.
	I got you.
	I got you, that bitch, Lexi.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Sean Chantel, that is quite unfortunate.
	The situation you have found yourself in with the herpes guy and the how do you say the pissing and pissing and the water buckles.
	That is, I don't know how I feel about this, but you know, some people, some people, it is if you're homeless, I guess this is come in.
	I think I'm French Canadian at this point.
	Oh my gosh.
	You found out that this is the eight-year guy.
	For example, you found out he was secretly, he had a problem with lying and cheating.
	He was secretly texting a very pregnant prostitute on your birthday.
	Yeah.
	What the fuck?
	What?
	Yeah, you have a lot of lore.
	Yeah, you have crazy lore.
	What the fuck?
	He was text.
	Was the prostitute pregnant because of him, though?
	No, no, no.
	She had, like the only reason why I found out she was even a prostitute and she was pregnant was because I saw the ads on the.
	If you're a prostitute and you get pregnant, you can't get pregnant again.
	It's a trend.
	Okay, it's a trend, yeah.
	No, she was like very, very pregnant, like eight months versus seven months.
	Yeah, I'm getting a headache man, I you know.
	First trimester, I think I'm down.
	Oh my god, I think after what doesn't?
	Don't you start much bodily change after the first trimester?
	When do you start getting big like?
	Is that middle end of the second, end of the second?
	Okay, so I could do a little bit into the second trimester?
	Oh my, I pray for your.
	I'll date her for four months, but then she's got to go.
	She's got to go after that.
	You know look, I'm a nice guy, I'll.
	You know she needs companionship for the first bit of the pregnancy.
	I'll be there for that bitch, I'll be there.
	I'll be there for for a little bit.
	You know I'm a nice guy.
	What can I say?
	Okay, all right, was that yikes from me?
	All right.
	That bitch Lexi is that?
	Wait, what is it that bitch Lexi?
	Lexi, It should be Jackson Gardner Cole, Professor.
	You need to change that shit back.
	I think I did.
	You were manifesting that shit, but the moment you changed.
	He was actually about to slide into your DMs, but when you changed that shit up, imagine getting a DM from someone that says, like, Willow Wolf's future boyfriend.
	Like, that, I think.
	That's kind of hot.
	I would answer.
	Yeah, I would totally answer.
	Like, if some girl DM'd me and she had a giant labia and it was like, big fat pussy labia, Brian's fat labia.
	Labia queen.
	Sign me up.
	I know what I'm going to make a username later today.
	Some girl, some girl who's watching is for sure in the data.
	I just like that shout out.
	He is still available.
	We'll find you a wife.
	We'll find you.
	Labia Queen.
	Four months pregnant.
	We'll find your wife.
	So, oh, oh, here's crazy.
	So, okay.
	When no one was home, that's when he could shower.
	When he was secretly living in your parents' house for three years, he would hide between the bed and the wall.
	Yeah, for hours.
	I feel like this is a violation of your parents, though.
	Yeah, you told your parents.
	Well, they ended up having to find out because they discovered him.
	Well, no, no.
	Well, actually, he made a mess in the room, but they had heard some noise.
	And when they didn't see him in the room, but they saw him outside of the window and they figured he jumped out of the out of the room.
	Yikes.
	Holy shit.
	That's so scary.
	Yeah.
	You?
	I don't know.
	You.
	Sounds like a good plot for a horror movie or something.
	Yeah.
	Psychological thriller.
	Paranormal activity.
	Wait, hold on.
	And.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	And you said he had a drug problem?
	Yeah.
	You led a drug addict?
	Well, I grew up.
	I grew up in my parents' house.
	Me and him.
	Me and him grew up.
	So, like, we had a good relationship at one point, but it went bad after.
	Your dad's kind of a Chad, by the way.
	Wait, you know about Yomika.
	Well, you've posted your dad on your TikTok.
	Oh, I have.
	Yeah.
	He's kind of a Chad.
	Yeah, he's the best dad in the world.
	Most of the video of him, like...
	Shout out, Dad.
	I don't know, something about like he was like punt air punching or whatever, and he was like, Don't screw my daughter over.
	Yeah, he's the best dad ever.
	And he's a cop.
	Oh, he's a cop.
	He's a white guy.
	That's your bio dad, right?
	Yes, yes.
	And your mom, is she like Indian or what?
	No, but she gets a lot.
	Oh, she's Italian.
	Both my parents are Italian.
	I'm 100% Italian.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Shout out to my parents.
	I love you guys.
	Okay.
	I love my parents.
	Good shit.
	Shout out that bitch Lexi's dad.
	Shout out to him.
	Shout out that bitch Lexi's dad.
	Dave.
	Shout out to Dad.
	He's a cop.
	Yes, he is.
	How long has he been on the Force for?
	23 years.
	Oh, okay.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	Good shit.
	Yes.
	That's got to be.
	Whoa, okay.
	So not only your dad, we don't have a thing, but he's like ripped and jacked or whatever.
	Not only is he like could fuck up a boyfriend, like he's also a cop.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he's going to kill y'all.
	I feel like that's kind of a little bit intimidating.
	Like dating dating a girl whose dad is a cop.
	You better not fuck up.
	Yeah.
	I feel that's a bit, I don't know.
	But he seems like a cool guy.
	He's so funny.
	Like he's like, he's intimidating until you get to know him and then he's like a teddy bear.
	Did he like give your, like, if you had a boyfriend in high school, did he give them shit?
	Well, I only had one boyfriend, and he was.
	That was the college guy.
	Yeah.
	And he liked him.
	It was chill.
	Yeah.
	But towards the end, I mean, he better never show face again.
	Back to you.
	Don't put it.
	So, okay.
	The cheating, lying, what drug, what was his drug of DOC, drug of choice?
	He was a heroin addict.
	Oh, shit.
	You let a fucking heroin addict secretly live in your fucking parents' house.
	What the fuck is the matter with you?
	Are you fucking crazy?
	Well, he had intentions of stopping and like intentions of stopping.
	What are you talking about?
	But yeah, I just don't know.
	Where did he hide?
	So I was really naive and I was kind of young.
	Where did he hide the syringes?
	He didn't really hide them.
	Did you ever do the heroin?
	A long time ago.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Okay, you're sober now.
	Oh, my wrong.
	I'm going to tell my dad to sign off before this part.
	If I had a fucking daddy, if I have a fucking dadda and she's secretly letting a fucking drug-addicted fucking boyfriend into my fucking house, oh my goodness, I don't believe in corporal punishment.
	Well, I gotta get the fucking belts.
	I gotta get something.
	I can't let my dada let a fucking motherfucking drug-addicted fucking degenerate into my fucking house.
	You're fucking kidding me.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Disowned.
	Disowned.
	You're Spanish or something?
	What do you mean?
	Yeah.
	It's gonna be like this.
	Hold on, let me play this shit.
	Oh, no.
	At the fucking door with you and your fucking drug-addicted boyfriend.
	Get the fuck out of my garage.
	Hey, do you know how to do a Boston accent?
	Speaking of Boston.
	No, really.
	I'm more New York.
	Where did you grow up?
	Connecticut.
	There's like New York.
	Connecticut.
	New York, Connecticut.
	Yeah, like New York.
	Like on the New York side.
	So, like, you gotta say Wicked.
	You know Miamis.
	Why is it Wicked?
	Wikidata.
	You know what?
	Myanis.
	The city in Connecticut.
	No, no.
	That's in Massachusetts.
	Hyanus?
	Hyannis?
	No, in Connecticut, there's a city called Mary.
	No, but I gotta go now.
	Google Mienus.
	Here, I'll spell it.
	Mary.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Mary, type this shit.
	M-I-A-N-U-S.
	Myanis.
	You've never been to my name.
	You're from Connecticut.
	I've never heard of those names.
	You never been to fucking Mianas.
	What the fuck?
	That bitch, Lexi.
	Oh, my God.
	Myanes.
	No, wait, wait, no, it's a girl.
	Oh, my God.
	It is.
	No, click with the Wikipedia.
	No, I know where that is in the map.
	I know that's where that is.
	Yeah, you should.
	That's like near where I am.
	I actually went there when I was in New York.
	It's fantastic.
	Gotta go.
	I'm going home for Christmas soon.
	I will take a trip.
	Yeah, look, it's Greenwich.
	Greenwich.
	In Connecticut.
	You don't get to say that.
	Sorry, man.
	I have to.
	You don't know.
	Okay, I'm going.
	You got to take a photo with the sign.
	I will.
	I'll send it to you.
	Be like, yeah, I'm in Uranus.
	My family is from the bus.
	You don't know how to do a Boston accent?
	My cop.
	Wicked smart.
	Wicked Smith.
	Wicked Smart.
	Love the Bruins, the Patriots.
	Hey, they're telling me the accent.
	Fire.
	Okay.
	Men's rights.
	Okay.
	New York accent.
	Fire.
	Whatever the fuck you.
	Fuck you.
	Fuck it.
	That's it.
	Hey, I like the fucking accent.
	I like the fucking accent.
	That's the only time my East Coast accent comes out when I like curse someone out.
	I'm like, you motherfucker.
	Why the fuck did you say that?
	They're saying it's cringe.
	Hey, fuck you.
	Okay.
	Fuck you.
	Fuck you.
	Go to Boston.
	Fuck yourself.
	Finishing off with your last little bit here.
	When you guys argued, though, tell us what you had to do.
	We would write it down.
	We would write it down.
	We would also whisper.
	Well, yeah, we would whisper, but if it was like really, if we had a lot to say, we had to write it down back and forth to each other.
	What about the notebooks?
	Tell me about the notebooks.
	Yeah, I still have like a bunch of notebooks that just are just filled with arguments.
	Notebook arguments.
	Okay.
	That is so traumatic.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	Look, you know, I just want to give some advice to the women watching there out there.
	To the one woman, I'm going to give you some good advice, ladies.
	Don't date a guy addicted to heroin.
	I'm just saying.
	Facts.
	I'm just trying to give some advice.
	I'm trying to help y'all.
	Honestly, I'm just trying to hot up y'all.
	Yeah, idiotics or alcohol.
	Also, don't date a woman who is gooning after a 20-year-old football player.
	That was a really interesting reference.
	I am 20.
	Bro, I am.
	No, I'm 22.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	Yeah, only 40-year-olds.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	I am his age.
	This is legal.
	It was your second.
	You were naive.
	You say it was your second serious relationship.
	You kept trying to fix things.
	Man, this is hard, man.
	Do you fix it while they're high on the heroin or like what?
	I don't know.
	I just was pretty naive.
	I shouldn't have continued to make it work.
	I should have just ended it.
	Okay.
	You only ever been in your five years with your high school sweetheart, eight years with the ex, two years with another guy.
	Okay, so you've done mostly long-term relationships.
	You were the fiancé, you got pregnant by him.
	He cheated on you during your first trimester.
	Yeah.
	That's the worst time to cheat.
	Oh my God.
	Cheat on a pregnant woman.
	Yeah.
	Have some class.
	If you're going to cheat on her, he's going to cheat on her.
	Do it like delivering the baby.
	Third trimester the day before the baby's born.
	Nobody.
	Okay.
	Send it.
	Okay.
	Let me see here.
	Let me just check.
	Double check.
	I think there's a few more notes here.
	Let me see.
	Willow, I think we did most of your notes, if I recall.
	I got a lot of shit to say all the time.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Taking up tweets from 2023.
	I am 170-something days sober from alcohol.
	So a lot of my shit posting.
	Thank you.
	Okay, we did that.
	Thank you.
	We did Zara.
	We did Chantal.
	We did.
	Let me see if there's anything left from Lexi.
	That bitch, Lexi.
	That bitch.
	Equivalent California.
	Healthy.
	I think really the final thing here, you said status and money does not matter to you if you're not attracted to or like a guy.
	Although I would say, but there are a lot of men, if not for their status, wouldn't be attractive to women.
	Moving on to your next thing, though, a healthy marriage in kids is a privilege.
	And you think marriage should be prioritized as it was in the past.
	And you disagree with Brian's take on marriage.
	Yes, I do.
	This is probably the final thing.
	Yes, I do.
	You don't agree with the children thing, whatever.
	But you don't agree with supporting having children out of wedlock.
	Yeah.
	I guess really quick, what are your disagreements with me about marriage?
	You don't want it.
	and I do, and I think that...
	You want to get married to me?
	Oh.
	Oh, fuck.
	All right, that's so romantic.
	You're going to have to propose, though.
	I can get you the ring or whatever.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, I just think that that's like the greatest gift you could ever have.
	And I have always wanted that.
	That's always something I've wanted.
	And I just don't think that it's taken us seriously these days.
	And I think it should be.
	Okay.
	Do you think that's just for people our age or people in general?
	I think people in general.
	Okay.
	Because I think you're our age for fucking sure.
	Yeah, for sure.
	But in general, I think.
	Okay, so I'll do, we'll do like two minutes on the marriage thing.
	Then you have one final note about like king men wanting to be treated like kings and then the princess treatment.
	We talked about that.
	Yeah, so I guess what is the specific like the issue again with marriage?
	Just that I don't want to get married.
	No, I feel like that's going to be a real roadblock in our I know we're going to have to talk about it.
	I think you guys can work it out.
	I think we can work with it.
	Being that you're a submissive woman, you're going to have to defer to me on this time, not this time.
	But I don't know.
	I just think like you don't, you just don't want to.
	But you've said that you would have kids outside of marriage.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can have kids outside of marriage.
	No.
	Why not?
	That's weird.
	So you don't want to have, you don't want to get married?
	Yeah, that's weird.
	You're supposed to.
	It's logically possible that a woman could be so amazing that I could get married to her, but no.
	I could find a woman who I could spend the rest of my life with and we could have children.
	We can have pretty much every single thing that we could otherwise get in a marriage without the marriage.
	So you don't want tax payments?
	That's the issue.
	But that's the issue.
	I mean, I respect it.
	I feel like marriage is a certificate of like ownership over the other person and it's like a legal document that says that you have like this legal responsibility to take care of the other person.
	And historically, you know, it's like men having to take care of women financially and all that.
	I get that.
	But, you know, I also like, I think love is real.
	I think love is real and love is possible.
	Yeah, okay.
	Does marriage preclude love?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I can have love absent marriage.
	Is marriage an antiquated tradition in our society?
	I don't know if I would say it's antiquated.
	I would say that when it comes to marriage, whoever the breadwinner is, has certain financial liability.
	And for this reason, the financial liability is so severe that I think it's...
	And, you know, if we lived in a different social order, different social dynamic where, like, divorce was frowned upon or, you know, it was...
	Bye, baby.
	I don't think so.
	It isn't, though.
	It really isn't.
	Even among like a lot of, maybe if you're like really seriously religious, it is, but even like women who consider themselves Christian, there's really not going to be any social, really much social stigma or social shaming in relation to if she's been divorced or contemplating a divorce.
	So I just, I guess let me ask this.
	I can tell you all the reasons why I don't like marriage.
	I'm against marriage.
	I don't want to get married.
	Can you just present to me reasons why I or other men should?
	I would never feel secure creating a home and a traditional male-female, like, I don't know, dynamic without the security of marriage.
	And I would not feel comfortable having children outside of wedlock.
	Like, I would never have that.
	And I want children, so I won't get, I don't want to be married.
	Again, though.
	So my question was, so you're, what you're doing is me, me, me.
	Yes, me.
	My question was, what would be convincing or compelling to the man?
	Well, if you want to marry one.
	Yeah, period.
	But could the guy be aware of that?
	If you want to be with me, we can't get married.
	So the guy could just echo the same argument.
	And the guy could say, well, I feel insecure being married because of the potential risk of divorce and what that could mean financially.
	So again, give me just, putting that all aside, though, just give me something.
	What is the benefit to the, I mean, I could say man, but just to be, you could say breadwinner because women could technically, what's the benefit to the breadwinner to get married?
	I mean, I think it's the security of like you're you're going out and you're doing work and I want to be a stay-at-home mom or I support like stay-at-home dad, whatever, if that's what you want.
	Do you want to work?
	I would take care of the home if the breadwinner wants to go out and earn bread.
	I will take care of the home and I can do that without marriage and that's the dynamic I want.
	But if you want, she's never going to have to work.
	But how does she have secured that security?
	How does she know that you're not going to wake up tomorrow and leave her?
	Would not even do that.
	But hold on.
	There's no fault divorce.
	People can divorce for no reason, any reason.
	I don't think that's right.
	I think it should be.
	Well, yeah, but I mean, legally, people can escape marriage, whether you're the man, whether you're the woman.
	So this idea that marriage, it wouldn't bind me to continue to be with her.
	And I don't think like, okay, well, the only reason I'm going to stay with this woman is because I'm going to be financially fucked.
	Like if I divorce, she wants to stay with me, but I want to divorce.
	But if I divorce her.
	Yeah, I was going to say prenups.
	Well, prenups can be challenged.
	That can be very expensive.
	Even if you do have a prenup, well, yeah, it can be challenged.
	And then I believe with prenups, it can address.
	I could be wrong.
	I don't know if there's any lawyers in the chat.
	It can address the assets that were accrued prior to marriage.
	But I don't think prenups can supersede state law as it relates to assets earned.
	Like, for example, if in a prenup, I don't think you could say something like, hey, if we get divorced, you get nothing.
	I don't think a prenup can do that.
	I don't know.
	I don't have the knowledge, the legal knowledge on that.
	But I don't know.
	I just think like if you're with somebody you love and like you want to start a family with, there should be no opposition to marriage.
	Like, and that's what I've grown up with.
	Like, my parents, like, they built their lives together.
	Like, my dad works.
	My mom works when we need money.
	And other than that, like, she stays at home.
	She takes care of the house.
	That's how it is.
	And there's no possibility of divorce, even when they've had rough patches.
	Like, you're working through it.
	You love each other.
	That's what you're doing.
	There's no divorce.
	Like, that, at least in my opinion, I've never grown up with the idea that that's like an acceptable out.
	And therefore, there's no monetary issue if you're not getting divorced.
	I mean, if you have, yeah, like, that's it.
	And that's why I think marriage is a sacred thing because it's like you wait.
	You wait.
	I'll wait as long as possible to get that.
	Like, I don't need to do that anytime soon if it's not with the right person or someone that I think could give me the life that I want and someone that I would want to give, like, what I can give to that person as well.
	But I mean, everything you just, everything you described there can be had.
	You can have a traditional dynamic absent marriage.
	Maybe you can, but I, like, me personally, I won't do it.
	Like, I just think you need the security of that.
	And I just think, like, I don't know, like, what the shift is, like, in the way that modern relationships are run that changed from like marriage is like something that everybody should be doing.
	Like, I don't know what changed.
	Probably feminism.
	I don't know, but I just think like, bring it back.
	I think it's special.
	And I think that it should be valued as it was in the past.
	I know me and a lot of my friends feel similar as well.
	Question for you.
	That football guy you like, would you be with him if he, but he doesn't want to get married?
	Not if he wanted children or yeah, but he's like, look, I don't want to get married, but I'm going to take care of you.
	I want to stay with you for life.
	No.
	He just won't get married.
	No.
	That's just words.
	That means nothing to me.
	Yeah, those are just words.
	I know, not just man's words.
	That's words.
	Marriage is also basically.
	Marriage is a contract.
	Yeah, it's a contract.
	Yeah, whatever.
	It's a piece of paper.
	I don't care.
	It's a bit of a security that you don't have.
	The marriage contract is frequently breached.
	It's frequently breached.
	But like you said, it has to be.
	It initiates divorces, huh?
	Like you said, it has consequences if it's breached.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's a consequence to it.
	Like breadwinner.
	A woman can cheat on.
	A woman can cheat on you.
	And if you're the breadwinner, she's still going to fuck you financially.
	And she's going to fuck the guy who she's fucking.
	You can put like, I don't know.
	I don't know if it's actually legal.
	There might be.
	You can put like adultery clause.
	Yeah, exactly.
	We should get a divorce.
	I don't think you can cheat.
	Yeah, we should.
	As a woman, you can't cheat on your man and get paid out.
	Yeah, you can.
	Not if you have a clause.
	Not your full alimony.
	I'm not entirely sure what a prenup would have put into Lao.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not convinced, just my sense of it, that a prenup would like, you could just, okay, your wife cheats on you.
	She's not getting anything in the divorce.
	I don't know if that's the case.
	I like feel like that's kind of valid, though.
	Like, I mean, I don't condone cheating.
	And I think that if he were to cheat, or I was a breadwinner, I'd be like, you don't get anything.
	And I would hope that he would be like, yeah, you know what?
	I cheat on you.
	Like, I have respect enough for you to, like, just kind of call it a day.
	Like, I would.
	If I like cheated, I'd be like, all right, you know what?
	I fucked up.
	I call it a day.
	Like, I know most people don't think that, but I just think, again, like, it's basic respect and morality.
	And I just have that.
	Yeah, and I think that's, that's, I don't think your position is unreasonable.
	I don't think, especially from your position, it's unreasonable.
	But again, I'm still looking for like what is to the breadwinner, to the man, what is the actual, aside from just getting you, like, what is the actual benefit that marriage confers upon men outside of he gets the woman?
	I mean, maybe there's nothing.
	I mean, like, maybe that's yeah, maybe that's it, but that should be enough.
	Like, I just think that that, that bond is, that's what it is.
	Like, that's what you get.
	Like, I don't think it's a financial thing.
	Like, I don't think marriage is a financial thing.
	Like, we could keep our entire finances separated and I'd be okay with that.
	Like, fine.
	I just think, you know, we can talk prenups.
	I don't think it's going to save you if the woman is motivated enough.
	You know, they can lie, say there was coercion, fraudulent, and inducement.
	Prenups can't, you know, fully protect your finances completely.
	And ultimately, though, you guys said marriage is a legal thing.
	Marriage is a contract.
	I personally, I'm a businessman.
	You know I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of business.
	And I can tell you this, you never sign a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it.
	And when women break the marriage contract by initiating a divorce, they are financially rewarded for it, for ending the relationship in a way that wouldn't occur if we were just together without marriage.
	Yeah, and I think that's wrong.
	Can I ask you a question on this?
	Sure.
	From your perspective, well, let me ask this first.
	Assuming there's no abuse, assuming he treats the kids well, he treats you well, even in these sort of situations, whether you're the man or the woman, you could eventually, sometimes you eventually just fall out of love with somebody.
	You can, who knows, whatever it is.
	If you were just vaguely unhappy, you were just vaguely unhappy, but he wasn't mistreating you.
	He wasn't abusing you, but you were on your determination, you were unhappy in the marriage.
	But no abuse, no, no infidelity, no, no mistreatment.
	Just, I don't know, whatever.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Would that justify divorce in your case?
	No.
	Okay.
	That is not justified because you go to therapy.
	You go to couple therapy.
	Yeah.
	You go to therapy.
	What if you go to therapy and you just you've completely fallen out of love with him and it's uh it's irredeemable from your perspective.
	He still loves you or whatever, but you suck it up.
	You can separate, like you can separate like without like ending the divorce and you can like go and date other people, I guess.
	Like, I don't know, but like, I mean, like, if that's like something he's like set on and he's like, well, I want to be single.
	No, no, no.
	He wants to stay.
	Oh, he wants to stay.
	He wants to stay.
	You're over it.
	Oh, but he's not.
	Oh, then I suck it up.
	He's up.
	Yeah, you suck it up.
	You have kids, you take care of your kids.
	You find pleasure in other areas of your life.
	That's fine.
	You're consistent, but I would say that.
	And you know, the thing is, though, what you're saying now, just how you said to me, it's just words.
	Women can say, you know what?
	I would never divorce you.
	But I think you find yourself in that situation, even if there's no abuse, there's no mistreatment.
	You're just, you've fallen out of love.
	You're no longer attracted to him.
	You're no longer in love with him.
	You're vaguely unhappy for one reason or the other.
	But again, no abuse, no mistreatment.
	No infidelity, no mistreatment.
	It can just happen.
	I do think that your attitude could change.
	Maybe.
	Could change.
	And let me, I'll talk to you again in 10 years.
	And it's just words.
	It's just words.
	You know, it's just words.
	Every girl dreams of marriage.
	Yeah, that's all I want.
	80% of divorces are initiated by women.
	All right.
	Well, who cares?
	They still can dream of marriage.
	80%.
	But are 80% just unhappy or was there not abuse?
	Oh, sure.
	Why not?
	Yeah, come on.
	Yes, of course there are bad marriages.
	There could be abuse.
	There could be infidelity.
	I'm not discounting that.
	But I hear the sentiment that marriage is very risky, Brian.
	And I can speak for my parents who are still together for over 30 years, that it's a very beautiful thing when it does work out.
	And of course, it's becoming more and more a rare thing in today's society, unfortunately, for two people to come together.
	So just to be clear, it's really sad.
	My own parents, they're still married.
	Oh, you understand it.
	They've been together for a very long time.
	You're just worried about consequences.
	Yeah, I mean, even though I have this model in my parents in terms of, you know, they have a, they've been married for a very long time.
	They, they love each other.
	I think that what you're describing there, though, of having this thing last a long time, that can exist without marriage.
	Well, let me ask you something here.
	What's in it for a woman to have a relationship with a man without there being the promise of a commitment?
	What's in it for a well, what are the things that women get out of relationships, period, whether that's marriage or not?
	If you're having a bit more of a, well, I suppose I'd ask you that question.
	What do women get out of relationship?
	What do you think women get out of relationships?
	Dating versus marriage.
	Like relationships.
	Or just relationships in general.
	You know, I guess first thing you get is companionship.
	The second thing that you get is someone to plan your life together.
	Companionship, yeah.
	You know, beyond just companionship, like financially, you know, whatever other types of like structures that you have in place, whether you want to start a family or other things.
	You know, for a woman, there's like a lot of emotional labor that goes into emotional labor.
	I don't know about that one.
	Supporting a man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, guys like always tell me, like, oh, you're like a therapist to me.
	Yeah, they call therapists.
	Men's like, no, we're going to go to actual therapy together because you therapy.
	Oh, my God.
	You need some help.
	Scam, therapy is a scam.
	Hey, but it gets people to talk.
	Oh, my God.
	It could be helpful.
	I get what you're saying.
	I do get what you're saying.
	Some of the craziest people are therapists.
	That is true.
	That is true.
	It really is.
	Absolutely.
	I agree with that.
	Absolutely.
	Therapists are in therapy.
	Oh, 100%.
	A lot of people.
	A lot of these therapists see therapists.
	We're about to wrap within five minutes if you want to say.
	Promise.
	I promise you, my dear shit.
	It's in their interest of the human brain.
	That's why they're going to therapy.
	My mom, I really like the relationship.
	I've been in therapy.
	There's a relationship.
	My therapist wants me to become a therapist, but I don't.
	My mom was in a relationship for 13 years with my dad, and she always told me as a kid she didn't want to get married.
	And now she's like, I don't know, 10 years later, she's married with a man because she found the right guy that she wanted.
	Like, she changed her mind because of the right person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Okay.
	Never know.
	You never know.
	I mean, the only I'll get married if the woman is wealthier than me.
	I was going to say, I think, okay, go there, mommy.
	Yeah, you're just a if she's a billionaire.
	If Mackenzie Bezos or whatever wants to hit me up, hit me up.
	I'll marry you.
	I'll marry a rich woman.
	Statistically, that's a smart move, Brian.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Guys, final call if you want to get a TTS.
	We'll just let this one go.
	D-Max $603 donated $69.
	4 a.m. on the East Coast.
	Waking up early and getting home late is the blue-collar lifestyle.
	What are the panelists' thoughts on blue-collar men?
	Fuck y'all, blue-collar.
	I love them.
	That's my dad.
	Blue collar men.
	Yeah.
	Love it.
	10 out of 10.
	We love them.
	This is the final note of all notes.
	They make a lot of money.
	Lexi, you say that y'all want to be treated like kings just as much as we want princess treatment.
	Yeah.
	You know, I think the difference is that I think more men give princess treatment than women give king treatment.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	That's a sad thing.
	It's so sad.
	Yeah.
	It's very sad.
	Wait, what?
	Depressing.
	More men give princess treatment to women than women give king treatment.
	Yeah.
	I strongly disagree, but that's all right.
	I think women are eaters.
	What the fuck?
	I give my men king treatment.
	Women are consumers.
	Consumers of the people.
	Well, what I mean by that, what I mean by that.
	I'm not shopping for my man.
	What I mean by that is, so if we look at like there's the component, there's the dynamic of maybe you could say privilege.
	Because women are the pursued, I think being the pursued gives you all the leverage.
	You can kind of dictate terms if you're the one being pursued.
	But they're pursued in the beginning, maybe, which not for me.
	I kind of like to pursue.
	But after a while, if their relationship is unequal, that's just not a healthy relationship.
	If it's like a guy goes out, gets my number, we get into a relationship, then it should be equal.
	Should it not?
	Is it equal, though?
	In my experience, it fucking can be, yeah.
	Maybe in your experience.
	Yeah, damn, maybe I'm a lucky girl.
	Maybe.
	But I would say proportional, like I'm not saying women won't or don't give king treatment.
	I just think because of that sort of greater likelihood of the dynamic that the men is the pursuer, that creates a dynamic where I think women sit in this position of you impress me.
	I'm the person who's aware of that.
	I think women generally are in the dynamic I see is I'm the prize.
	Dance for me, monkey.
	Dance, be a little jester, be a good jester.
	Maybe in the beginning, but I feel like after a while, I've seen so many of my beautiful stunning, amazing, talented, and just overall amazing people do fucking charity work for some fucking bum.
	Yeah, sure, that happens.
	But I think if we're just looking overall, I've been doing that.
	Yeah, charity work.
	Well, I think this is kind of common for sex workers because the reality is, if you're involved in sex work, that is a generally, well, that's a negative.
	I wasn't doing sex work for the first two years of that relationship.
	That's fine.
	I think if you're involved in sex work of some kind, you have to overcompensate for it.
	You have to maybe not.
	You have to compensate.
	You have to compensate for this way in which you are less desirable.
	It's true.
	I'm going to do the opposite of that.
	I think that if somebody sees what I do for my job as any sort of negative, they're not the one for me.
	If you see my job as something that you have to get over or you have to overcome or you have to look past, you're not the one for me.
	The person that I'm going to be with is going to be like, fuck yeah, I love that you do that.
	That's hot.
	I know men who support sex work and who also feel more special in a relationship than especially because I only do solo content.
	It's not like I have like videos with other guys.
	I think that maybe a lot of men might think that, but then they finally do get into a relationship with the sex worker.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they see all the baggage that comes along with it.
	And they see like, oh, hold on.
	Wait.
	Oh, my girl is like, if you're on OnlyFans, she's basically sexting.
	Well, or you have a typer or chatter or whatever.
	No, I fuck agencies, fuck management.
	I run all my own shit.
	Well, you wouldn't, even if you did have a typer or a chatter, you wouldn't admit to it anyways.
	Yeah, no, I don't like that shit.
	That's fraud.
	It is fraud.
	It is fraud.
	But I do think it's the case that men will eventually, they're going to see, they're going to see the dark underbelly.
	Wait, is that the right word?
	Dark underbelly.
	Yeah, I got it.
	They're going to see the kind of darkness of some of the sex work shit.
	But to you, it's darkness.
	To somebody else, that's a king.
	I don't know.
	I kind of think there's a lot of negatives that come with sex work, and I've changed entirely as a person becoming a stripper because of the baggage that comes with it.
	I think, yes, anything in person, I think, is kind of scary to me.
	Like stripping.
	You guys are tough.
	Also, I do think that, look, you could get into sex work, and I think that it draws a certain type.
	I agree.
	I think a lot of women drawn to sex work have, no offense, have issues.
	Oh, my God.
	Not all sex workers.
	But honestly, it comes with issues, though.
	It comes with trauma, and it comes with issues.
	Even if you don't.
	Everybody got issues.
	Yeah, but also there's trauma that comes with the work.
	Well, I didn't ever say that, but there's trauma that comes with doing the work that no one can deny.
	Like, I am traumatized.
	Well, what I'm saying is, even if you don't go in, maybe you fucking grew up on a farm in Kansas.
	Even if you don't go in with any trauma, you get a lot of people.
	I think you're coming out of sex work, or even if you continue on with the sex work, you're getting some scars.
	Yeah, that goes for any of them.
	That guy would recommend it.
	Customer service, getting berated as an agenda worker.
	I'm very thankful for my job.
	I don't think that it has caused more harm than has caused sex work.
	But you can't deny the cons of it.
	Like, I don't know.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	It's not for everybody.
	Think generally speaking, a girl who goes and works retail at American Eagle is going to get more trauma than like being a stripper, being OnlyFans, being a sugar baby.
	Like, I just think if you aren't traumatized, there's a good chance you'll end up traumatized in some way.
	Also, I think a lot of these men, a lot of these men that engage with you, I don't think y'all typically have high opinions.
	I love myself.
	Well, you say that to finesse.
	You say that to placate.
	You say that to Pander.
	Pander's the worst thing.
	I've never had respect for any customer.
	At least strippers.
	I feel like strippers look down on the tricks.
	I entirely look down at it.
	The strippers don't have love for the.
	I think some of it's maybe warranted.
	Some of these guys get a little handsy, a little grabby.
	Yes, and it literally comes with the job, but it comes not right, but it comes with the job.
	And no matter what, like every girl I know who's a stripper is desensitized to getting like assaulted.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's like.
	Which, to be clear, it's completely wrong.
	Yeah.
	Even if you are a sex worker, that should never happen.
	If you're a stripper, the men should keep their hands, unless you give them permission or whatever, the men should keep their hands to themselves.
	But like, and also, even if the guys aren't grabby, I think you see like the men who gravitate towards the strip club, these typically aren't high-virtue men.
	No, typically.
	Not at all.
	I'm not saying all men that go to strip clubs are bad or anything, but like these people are not.
	I think most men are.
	I mean, I would say it's akin to someone paying for an OnlyFans subscription.
	What kind of man's going to pay for that?
	Because otherwise, it's kind of pathetic.
	No, that's not supporting women, though.
	No, I agree.
	He's putting money directly in my pocket.
	But he's supporting prostitution.
	Prostitution.
	Well, okay, stripping isn't prostitutes.
	That's not so bad thing.
	He should just like Venmo you and be like, you're gorgeous.
	Stripping is not prostitution.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, paying for a sense of sexual gratification, I think, is what I'm saying.
	I think it's sad to glorify that behavior, honestly.
	To glorify what behavior?
	OnlyFans?
	OnlyFans, yeah, I think which aspect of it?
	Nudity and displaying your body and okay, that's where we're going to heavily, heavily disagree.
	Do you think that porn overall?
	I mean, I have very mixed feelings about porn overall, but yeah, and hey, I'm not trying to hate on you as an individual or anything.
	I'm just saying my perspective, I think it's really sad.
	Even if you're not afraid of that, and I think that the kind of guys that do pay for that, it's very desperate.
	Yeah.
	Facts.
	Always.
	They're not high quality masks.
	Honestly, it's kind of the men's fault because if they didn't pay for that, they are, yeah.
	OnlyFans wouldn't be a billion-dollar industry if it wasn't for all the men funding it.
	Yeah, 100%.
	But that doesn't mean they're not losers.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, it just means that they're sad, lonely.
	Yeah, they're sad.
	No high-quality man has an OnlyFans.
	I mean, I can't speak for everyone.
	I stand by the money.
	I strongly disagree.
	I strongly disagree.
	I guess just we got to.
	I'm a sex worker and I fully agree.
	I mean, I think there's so much trauma that I will never romanticize sex worker, like make it seem like it's a great thing with great consumers.
	I love what I do, but there's so.
	Yeah, I love what I do, but I can also acknowledge the bad and I will never make it sound good or make the customer sound good because look, like from what I've seen every day and like buying that, it's just not a great industry.
	Like it's not a living industry.
	Why not?
	Because I like it.
	What makes it worth it?
	Yeah.
	And I think the money makes it worth it.
	For someone like me that's been in it for 10 years plus, I can say the draw, what keeps me in the industry and what keeps me level-headed and afloat and making money and everything.
	Continuously is that first things first, I don't hate my customers.
	Yeah, I don't think they're losers, and I don't think that they're pieces of shit.
	I think the thing that they appreciate about me is that I offer a form of companionship and a form of acceptance as a woman that they don't get in their day-to-day lives.
	I totally understand that.
	So, beyond just me prostrating myself sexually or like, you know, showing my genitals to some stranger, like there is a psychological component of I'm making myself vulnerable to you.
	And I know that you spent your whole life looking for a place where you could be vulnerable.
	And OnlyFans gives you this unique opportunity to, like, whether you're talking to a chatter or a real person, you have the opportunity to actually establish a relationship.
	And whether that's a real thing or like a parasocial thing, it's a parasocial thing.
	I want to say that.
	I do have to apologize.
	It's late.
	I do have to get this wrapped up.
	Just really quick.
	Again, I love my job.
	I just can acknowledge the bad parts.
	Yeah.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	I do think, really quick, on the princess king treatment.
	I think average women can get princess treatment, but I don't think average men typically are going to get king treatment.
	I think men are simps.
	I think men bend over backwards just at the whiff of not to be crude, but like men.
	A lot of men will move mountains to get some pussy.
	Yeah.
	And I think they're men, like women can be simps, but I think it's just way less common.
	It's what I guess supply and demand.
	Princess treatment, king treatment.
	Like women won't spend money to get laid.
	Men will spend money to get laid.
	Men will spend money to fulfill some sort of some degree of sexuality in them.
	Women will not spend money in that regard.
	That's my final thought on that.
	Well, I don't know if we have time for final thoughts from anybody.
	Anybody, final thoughts?
	Anyone?
	It was an honor to be on this podcast, guys.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for everyone for having me.
	Thank you, Daddy.
	I always like to.
	Thanks for watching, guys.
	I'd like to end the show by.
	Oh, just stay for a second.
	30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	I like to end the show with a call to action.
	We have three sex workers here.
	I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you each a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
	No.
	Why the fuck would I?
	No.
	Under what conditions?
	Yeah, like what do I mean by what because my job?
	Yeah, I'm human.
	That would support us in my life.
	Right?
	My job.
	I would.
	I would have been going to work out.
	I'll give you an answer.
	Your soul.
	I think my soul is doing just a lot.
	I get to keep my soul.
	You think that?
	Yeah.
	I think that I'm doing what it needs.
	To redeem.
	If someone can pay for my living, then yeah.
	But I support myself entirely and don't have help.
	So I can't.
	You could have my finances covered.
	I would still want to do nude art.
	I think I have my soul intact.
	Yeah, I feel pretty good about myself.
	I don't think that.
	Yeah, they'll stop right now.
	Go subscribe.
	Yeah, yeah, I think it's more of an apartment in my castle than that.
	Are you Christian, by the way?
	Yes.
	There's a there.
	I'm trying to hold on.
	What good does it hold on?
	Oh my God.
	Okay, period.
	Bible study right now.
	What good is it to gain the world at the cost of your soul?
	I don't feel like I've cost my soul.
	I don't even think I've gained the world.
	What the hell?
	What does it mean to gain the world if it costs you your soul?
	I think it gave me a large part of what I need.
	Financial security.
	I'm financially independent, getting through stuff.
	Anyways, I tried my best.
	GG, GG, well played.
	Well played.
	Last call, guys who are watching.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Also, please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
	It's going to take about 30 seconds after we go to the outro screen.
	I read them.
	Positivity is nice.
	It helps with the algorithm.
	Thank you to the wonderful panel.
	It was a really fun show.
	You guys were so dope.
	Thank you guys so much.
	You guys were fantastic.
	Sorry, I was a little tilted at the beginning.
	It was kind of funny.
	It was a little funny.
	Good start.
	Yeah, I was crashing out at the beginning there.
	It's just big feelings.
	Oh, yeah, exactly.
	It's just frustrating.
	It's frustrating when somebody no-shows, you know?
	Like, look, it's a bit frustrating if you tell me like three hours before, but at least I know.
	But you just don't.
	Yeah, or they.
	We had a girl who just, and she checked in yesterday.
	Yeah.
	Total no-show.
	And she, I don't know, I think she says she's like conservative or Christian or whatever, which seems.
	Oh, like wants to be on the podcast, but then when it comes to actually showing up, it's like, eh.
	Yeah.
	So I was a little frustrated.
	So I apologize if I was a little stressed out there at the beginning, but you guys were wonderful.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you to the viewers.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You come in anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	07s in the chat.
	07s.
	Are we forgetting anything or are we good?
	I want to bring Nala out.
	Oh, the dog.
	Can we see the dog really quick?
	Just the...
	Ah, the dog.
	Come on, baby.
	What a good guy.
	This dog is honestly.
	Yeah.
	I trained her myself.
	Do you think she can...
	Oh, fuck anything over.
	That's okay.
	Can she like go over there a little bit?
	Oh, yeah, she could go there.
	Oh, she's cute.
	Okay, we'll scoop back here.
	Yeah, no, she's.
	Oh!
	Hi, baby!
	Yeah, she's checking out the fucking dolls.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, girl.
	Good girl.
	Yeah, all right.
	She's a sweetheart.
	She's a sweetheart.
	She's very nice.
	She's very nice.
	All right, guys.
	Can you say woo?
	Bye, bad.
	He says, woo, whatever.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for watching.
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