Whatever Podcast - 35 Year Old w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! She Is MOUTHY To Her Husband?!

Nov. 3, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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35 Year Old w/ CRAZY Standards?! REFUSES TO SETTLE! Obese Girl WILL NOT Date Obese Man?! She Is MOUTHY To Her Husband?! | Dating Talk #267

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	I'm just saying, like, if you're a black man, you are my Caucasian if you join the Discord.
	Anyways, good talk.
	Okay, without further ado, we're going to have the guests, wonderful guests today, introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education.
	Hi, my name is Maria Porsche.
	I'm from Los Angeles.
	I'm 27.
	I am an SMC student studying psychology.
	All right.
	And how close are you to graduating?
	Two more years.
	Two more years?
	Okay.
	What do you want to do with your degree?
	You want to figuring it out, maybe more in the therapy end, maybe even like online therapy.
	So you're currently a sophomore?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Have you taken any psychology classes?
	In high school, and then earlier this year, I took like Psych 1.
	Psych one.
	Okay, so you're just taking too much.
	So now I'm taking the second one in January.
	Gotcha.
	What's like from, so you just took that psych class.
	Just, yeah.
	Okay, so it's still kind of fresh in your brain.
	Yes, very.
	Give me like one thing you learned.
	One thing I learned.
	Like the biggest takeaway from the class?
	Biggest takeaway, just, I guess, like mind over matter, really?
	Wait, mind over matter?
	They taught that in the class?
	Yeah.
	In psych one?
	In psych one?
	Is that what it's called?
	Psych one?
	In the psychology one, psych one, like breaking it down.
	Okay, it's not 101.
	No.
	100, 101.
	It's just one.
	Psych one.
	Psych one.
	Okay.
	So it's mind over matter?
	Couldn't you learn that from like an Instagram or something like a 13-year-old girl's Instagram post or something?
	It's mind over matter, you know?
	No, because it is like, you know, it's your brain over like the matter, you know, your brain.
	But so what does that mean, though?
	Just kind of like the effect of how each person, you know, is going to basically like interact with the problem.
	But so is that like.
	Did you have to write an essay or anything for the class?
	I did, not over that.
	Not on that.
	What was your essay?
	Final essay?
	Was it the final essay?
	I don't know.
	The final?
	Final was just over.
	I'm trying to even remember on that right now.
	Well, you wrote how many essays did you have to write for the class?
	Like, good three or four.
	Okay.
	The most recent one you wrote, what was the topic?
	Can't tell you.
	Chat GPT just pumped that out for you?
	No, I didn't pump it out.
	I'm just forgetful.
	But it was, wait, like over the summer you took Psych 1 or?
	Over January winter.
	Oh.
	So it was a few months back.
	Yeah, about going on a year ago.
	Okay.
	You don't remember the essay?
	Nope.
	The topic?
	I would have to bring it up on my phone.
	That's how quick I forget things.
	Anything else, like second number one thing, number two thing that you learned from your psych class?
	I really can't tell you.
	Relay to us what you learned in psych one.
	You're so you want to study psychology.
	Tell me what you learned.
	Do I want to study psychology at this point?
	Well, you're psych major, right?
	Oh yes.
	Give me, give me just, okay, so mind over matter.
	Got love it.
	Love it.
	Sigmund, real Sigmund Freud over here.
	What's the number two thing that you learned in psych?
	Number two?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's science-based, so just is psychology science-based?
	Isn't it like a soft science, though?
	Very soft, yeah.
	So is it really science-based?
	But what did you learn, though?
	Can't tell you.
	All right, I'm not, I'm not, this actually, look, I don't really think that this is an indictment of you.
	I think it's actually an indictment of the educational system to some degree.
	Potentially.
	But I didn't mean to grill you there.
	But okay, you're from LA.
	Do you do you work or you do some modeling, right?
	Yes, modeling.
	Runway model.
	Both.
	Like runway, commercial print, music videos.
	Oh, music.
	Who have you?
	I was in Chris Brown, Jeremiah one.
	Just last summer.
	Chris Brown, okay.
	Did you meet?
	Yeah.
	What's his name?
	Wait.
	What's his creezy?
	What's his name?
	Breezy?
	Is it Breezy?
	Breezy nickname?
	Breezy.
	Did you meet Breezy?
	Yes, yeah.
	I know him pretty well.
	Oh, you know him pretty well?
	Yeah, like hung out, hung out with him.
	It's LA.
	Is he often?
	Did you have like a, you know, it's a dating podcast?
	Do you guys have a date?
	Not a date.
	Flirtation?
	Flirtation for sure.
	For sure.
	Because he's a bit of a ladies' man.
	Chris Brown.
	He is.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So did you have a date with him?
	Not a date, not a date.
	More like hangouts, hangouts, and like group settings, you know, mini women around.
	Doesn't he charge, like he does these meet and greets where he'll take a photo with you?
	Yeah.
	Doesn't he charge like an obscene amount for like a thousand dollars?
	And then the girls can like bring their cuck boyfriend or whatever.
	Basically, and they're doing all kinds of poses and like craziest him proposing to the girl or like I'm gonna write a note to ask the panel like the Chris Brown boyfriend, girlfriend.
	Okay, we'll come back to that.
	Okay, modeling, you've done some print stuff.
	Any companies we might have heard of?
	Build-a-bear.
	Build-a-bear?
	Sephora.
	Amica.
	That was another hair campaign.
	Nice.
	Rock and arm.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	What about you?
	I'm Liana.
	I'm 36.
	What else?
	Where am I from?
	I currently live in Hamenkre.
	And now if I anyone who wants to ask where it is or guess where it is.
	Can I have you tilt your mic down a little bit?
	Like this.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I currently live in Hamenkre.
	Anyone knows?
	Tell us, please.
	Well, you know already.
	Finland.
	Yay.
	Okay, you're from Finland.
	So you speak Finnish?
	Yeah, I do.
	Any other languages?
	A little bit of French.
	Well, a little bit of English.
	Je pal français.
	Vui empe mamo et le française.
	Oh, sebienza.
	C'e bien.
	Se compon mi que je padelme.
	Marci, mossi.
	Je je compron plu bien que je pal.
	Anyways, shall we talk shit about the rest of the panel in French?
	Yeah, that would be.
	Putin allure.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know all the closed words.
	Just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	For the French.
	Every time in school, I hid my toes somewhere.
	I always cursed in French because you didn't get in trouble with that.
	Rock and roll.
	So you're from Finland, born there?
	No, born in Jerusalem.
	So I'm like Jewish, French, and Finnish.
	Gotcha.
	When did you move to Finland?
	When I was four.
	Four.
	Three or four, around that time.
	Okay, cool.
	But my grandma is Finnish, so...
	That's mine.
	Together.
	Occupation?
	What do you do for work?
	I'm a mechanic.
	Oh, nice.
	What kind?
	Like automotive.
	I actually have a degree in heavy vehicle mechanics, so trucks and bigger vehicles.
	Oh, trucks.
	Okay.
	So you don't work like for, I don't know, like a BMW dealer?
	I hate European cars.
	We're actually the only garage that does only American cars in Finland.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	And you said heavy machinery.
	Yeah, that's where I got my degree in.
	Okay, wow.
	A degree?
	Yeah.
	At a university in Finland for that?
	Well, it's like almaticolo in Finnish, but what is it?
	Trade school.
	Trade school.
	That makes sense.
	Probably.
	Okay.
	I noticed your teeth is bejeweled.
	You have a little jewel there?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anybody here have a grill by chance?
	They could pop in?
	No?
	Maybe Chris Brown can get you hooked up.
	I went to get my first one when I was 16 with my mom.
	So when my daughter turned 13, we went together.
	Okay.
	I used to have five.
	Five tongue piercings?
	I'm really scared of needles.
	So yeah, I had five tongue piercings.
	You're scared of needles, but.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Where can you even put all five?
	Where do they, like, underneath?
	It went across.
	Oh.
	Like this.
	Okay.
	Did you ever have like the ones in the lips or whatever?
	That's the two holes in the hole there.
	Oh, you had the septum.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And I had it in my neck and here and yeah.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	So scared of needles.
	I literally almost pass out every time.
	And then in terms of your education, it was just like the mechanic school that you went to.
	You got your degree in?
	Yeah, I bought myself a 72 Valiant and fell in love with it and it had electricity problems.
	So I built those and my daughter turned three, so I had to decide what to do.
	So I decided to went to school and became a mechanic.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name is Victoria Bumajdi.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I live in Los Angeles, California.
	And I run a quite controversial page on Instagram where I give harsh advice, but with love.
	Harsh advice.
	Controversial.
	Couple questions.
	Well, I'll come back to that.
	Any college or anything like that?
	Not at the moment, no.
	It may be a possibility next year.
	Okay.
	But we are seeing how life goes.
	Yes.
	Gotcha.
	And grew up in LA, you said?
	Or did you say, where did you say?
	Orange County?
	Yes, I grew up in LA.
	Grew up in LA.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	Really caught, you said controversial.
	You know, I took a quick peek at your.
	You also have a TikTok too.
	I took a quick peek, Nick.
	Do you have the clip?
	We're just going to play a portion of it.
	She is in fact a bit controversial.
	I happen to find the most controversial one just to perhaps make you.
	Well, okay, go ahead, play the clip.
	From the beginning.
	Wait, no.
	Scroll it back.
	Scroll it back.
	No.
	It's always peaked myself.
	The bar.
	It's not scrolling all the way to the.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like that, like that.
	All the way to the back.
	Wait, wait, let's stop, Let me stop talking and then play it.
	Go ahead.
	Hitler always piqued my interest.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Okay, that's crazy.
	I mean, it is very controversial.
	So, I mean, I won't let the what.
	Do you want to explain that?
	Yeah, I mean, I could explain the video as much as I remember.
	I actually have a different take.
	Rather than hating on people who have done horrible things, I'm not here to say that or defend Hitler.
	I try to figure out how they became, who they became, why they are in our history books, while many other dictators in history were not as prominent.
	In that video, I didn't necessarily touch on that, but as I grow, I try to learn as much as I can from every subject, not just history.
	But yeah, I think also the reason why I am so controversial is because I'm not afraid to say what others may hesitate to do.
	So this could be really anything.
	It could be about gender roles.
	It could be about my views on the LGBTQ community.
	It could be about my views on many other communities, like minority communities.
	But yeah, I really try to venture across every single subject that people are afraid to touch.
	And yeah, and I love it.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Oh, quick reminder, guys: if you do buy merch, it comes up like this on the screen, and we will give you guys shout-outs.
	So if you do purchase merch, like I said, it goes through streamlabs.com/slash/whatever, and we'll be able to do a little read.
	Looks like two people bought t-shirts and somebody bought one of the premium hoodies.
	So thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And usually you can put in your name and include even a little message along with it.
	And going to you, what about you?
	My name is Laura.
	I'm 31 years old.
	I am from the San Fernando Valley.
	And I currently am unemployed, previously a personal assistant.
	And I went to school.
	I went to a trade school as well for accounting and for landscaping.
	Two very different things that I was really interested in.
	Not working in those fields, but they're always applicable to life.
	Okay, got it.
	Got it.
	And you said 31, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Just turned 31.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	And you currently said you're unemployed.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	Homeless?
	No.
	Not homeless.
	Okay.
	I live in Calvin.
	Yeah, that homeless person recently, I guess.
	Period.
	Oh, speaking of which, the homeless person was that from two shows ago or was it last show?
	We've had a showless show.
	The urban climber chick.
	In the BTS tab, Nick, can you pull up the Discord?
	BTS tab.
	There was a.
	We posted a behind the scenes thing in our behind-the-scenes tab on there.
	We're not going to play it, but you can just Windows tab.
	You can just show it.
	Yeah, so yeah, it's there if you guys want to see it.
	A bit of a crash out meltdown.
	I mostly blame Felicity for it.
	Felicity really got under.
	Felicity got under that girl's skin.
	Definitely wasn't me.
	So if you want to see it, discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Pull it up in the stream yard.
	Okay, what about you?
	My name is Paige Hamilton.
	I'm from New York.
	I'm a mommy.
	Hi, kids.
	I told them I'd say hi.
	I'm also a wife.
	I worked for 13 years helping people with disabilities in the community, but I am recently disabled myself.
	So I had to switch gears because I couldn't go from income to no income.
	And I started cozycuteco.com and I make apparel that's cozy and cute.
	And this is one of my shirts.
	So thank you.
	All right, what about you?
	My name is Sabrina.
	I'm 35 and I grew up in Orange County and I live in the Inland Empire right now and where I worked.
	I'm a data analyst for business.
	Any college?
	Yes, I'm going to college for administration of criminal justice.
	But you haven't had like a degree from something else previously.
	No, I went to school a really long time ago and then I came back.
	Okay, and you're in your first year, second year, third year, fourth year?
	Second year.
	I should graduate next year, but I have been doing data analysis for like eight years through my business.
	Okay.
	And then college for you?
	I did go to college on and off for a long time.
	I'm so close to finishing, but right now I'm focusing on being a wife and a mommy.
	Okay, where were you studying?
	I studied art history.
	Art history.
	So you and her can connect on the floor, I guess.
	Oh, I mean, at least she's honest.
	I think a lot of people are interested in the past.
	That's how I'll word that.
	Oh, you know what?
	We should have played the Erica song, but whatever.
	All right, what about you?
	My name is Sophia.
	I'm 18.
	I live in Orange County.
	I'm currently a freshman studying history, actually.
	And I also work at a bakery.
	Gotcha.
	And sorry, your age again?
	Sorry, I missed that.
	35.
	And then your age again?
	32.
	Gotcha.
	Sorry.
	Okay, 32, 35, 18.
	You work at a bakery.
	Are you in college at all?
	Yeah, I'm a freshman.
	Studying?
	History?
	History.
	Got it.
	Okay, Felicity, what about you?
	I'm Felicity.
	I'm 19 from Santa Barbara, and I'm a student.
	All right, rock and roll.
	Welcome, everybody.
	We're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And longest relationship.
	Hold on.
	There's actually a TTS coming through.
	So I guess we'll just do this now first.
	One moment.
	Felicity was.
	Actually, never mind.
	Hold on.
	Leroy Jenkins donated $200.
	Ladies, can we get a fit check?
	Stand?
	Sure, sure.
	We'll do it.
	Would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor?
	Serious surgery.
	So basically, would you rather get a massage or die?
	Wow.
	That's interesting.
	That's an interesting question for the chat.
	So we'll do a fit check.
	So if everybody just wants to stand up, you can show your outfit off.
	We'll show off the outfits.
	Oh, I guess maybe just scoot the chair back and scoot in.
	Okay.
	So you got the outfits.
	There's the outfits.
	And then I guess he asked for a spin.
	If you guys want to spin, do a little spin.
	This is the hokey pokey, right?
	Okay.
	This.
	Oh, no.
	Felicity's not a fan of it, I guess.
	All right, Leroy Jenkins.
	Wait, is this like, I actually think I have a sound for this.
	Hold on.
	Oh, no, that's the shit.
	There it is.
	There it is.
	All right.
	Thank you, guy.
	All right.
	So going around the table, relationship status.
	If you're single, how long single and longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	Single for about two years, technically, in a relationship for five years.
	Longest, yeah.
	Is that the one that ended two years ago?
	The five-year?
	No.
	Okay.
	Different one.
	So the five-year one was from one to one.
	From like a 14, 15-year-old to like, what, 20, 21?
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	And then, wait, you said 15 to 21?
	Or what?
	15 to, yeah, 21.
	Okay, so it was like high school, Sweden.
	Yeah, high school thing.
	Who broke up with who?
	We were on and off a lot of different times, but me finally ending it because the guy just kept cheating and like doing dirty stuff.
	How old?
	How old?
	Was he?
	Oh, literally same age.
	Same age.
	Same age.
	And then the most recent relationship, you said you've been single for two years, ended two years ago.
	How long was that one?
	How long was it?
	It was like two years.
	Yeah.
	Two-year relationship.
	Who broke up with who?
	Me.
	Any reason?
	Cheater again.
	What's that?
	Cheater.
	Cheater.
	Yeah.
	You cheated?
	No.
	Well, actually, maybe when we were off, I did.
	And that was considered cheating, but not to me.
	Because we were off on a break.
	Off.
	Was it off again, on again, multiple times?
	Not multiple times.
	It was really only one off time.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	swear this was not intentional next to the woman who said she what did you say about hitlers i I said I found him intriguing.
	I never said anything positive about him.
	I've heard people say that.
	In her defense.
	swear that was not intentional do you have thoughts since you're do you have any thoughts on what she said Well, no, because she didn't say anything bad.
	Of course, I can put myself into people's shoes also and think why somebody did something and either agree or disagree, but I didn't see that as anything offensive.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you so much.
	Just to create a little more connection there.
	I swear that was.
	I didn't even know you're from Israel.
	That was a new revelation when you said that during your interview.
	I thought you were Finnish.
	I have both actually here.
	Oh, you have a blue and white tattoo.
	So it's my bottom.
	Oh, Israel.
	Finland and Israel.
	And the flags are together.
	Because Finland is blue and white.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Okay.
	Well, there you go.
	Okay, so you've been single for two years.
	Yes.
	In the two-year period, anything?
	Like, you know, a couple months situation or whatever?
	Definitely oh, yeah, recently there was one.
	Recently, just so bad.
	What did you do?
	I didn't do anything.
	I don't think I did anything.
	He would have to say what happened because he literally just started posting a new relationship on his Finsta.
	A Finsta?
	On a Finsta, where I wouldn't have seen it unless you're going to be able to do it.
	Can you explain to the viewers what a Finsta is?
	A Finsta is literally like, I don't know if it's a fake Instagram or what they call it, but like when you just post random moments in your life on a different account and it could be the most random things, like just whatever, like whatever you find intriguing.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	But so you guys were seeing each other for how long?
	For like two, three months?
	From June to June.
	Yeah, June to like September.
	Okay, so you recently broke up?
	Yeah, that's recent.
	Okay.
	Have you had a rebound since him?
	No, no, no actual rebound.
	Any guys in the picture currently?
	Not in person.
	Breezy?
	No, he's on the tour, whatever.
	Done.
	If Chris Brown slid in your DM right now and he's like, hey, you want to come on tour with me?
	Would you go?
	I would go.
	Yeah.
	I would definitely go.
	Okay.
	I'm kind of old, so like Chris Brown's cool again?
	Like for like a while now, right?
	I mean, I feel like he's always maintained relevancy for kind of a long time, I think.
	Okay.
	After the Rihanna thing, he was not.
	Oh, I mean, he's definitely continued to have.
	I mean, that had a pretty massive negative impact on his career, but he's remained pretty relevant.
	I know my sister.
	Maybe not as much as I don't know when his peak was.
	2000.
	Mid-2000.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I know my sister just went to his concert, but we don't see eye to eye on anything, so I'm not surprised.
	Okay.
	So there's currently sort of a guy in the picture that I'm interested in, kind of seeing what would happen.
	Another celebrity person, but I don't know.
	Okay, gotcha.
	All right.
	What about you?
	In a committed relationship, I think it's been now seven years, so living together, working together.
	Are you guys married?
	No.
	Ever married?
	Nope.
	Kids?
	One.
	From current relationship?
	A relationship before.
	How old's your kid?
	11.
	No, 12.
	12.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hi, Ariella.
	Mama loves you.
	Proud mom.
	How long was that relationship?
	Six years.
	The father of your guys engaged or anything?
	Yeah, but not married.
	But not married.
	Who ended that relationship?
	Who called off the engagement?
	Me.
	Why is that?
	Because I was cheated on a lot.
	Wait, he was cheating on you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	When you say a lot, how many women and/or men did he cheat on you with?
	Well, the first time I found it out, my daughter has just been born and he took a Tinder girlfriend out because he was too tired.
	No, I just got home and yeah, he was thinking he didn't want it to be alone if I leave him and because I was so tired, of course, I wonder why he took another girl out.
	And that kind of went on for six years, on and off.
	Okay.
	And you both live in Finland, right?
	Yep.
	Is there a child support system in Finland?
	Yep.
	Okay, and so does how much he pays you money, I guess?
	I've never asked for anything.
	Okay.
	I hate the idea that if you, of course, if you really need the money, it's okay.
	But if you really don't need it, to have an argument with the other parent of your child is just something I don't like.
	The idea that it's always you have a relationship with somebody and you're kind of in an argument all the time because the other one is mad about giving you money or something like that.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So do you guys have shared custody?
	Yeah.
	Is it like 50-50 custody?
	Yeah, we used to have.
	Okay, so he gets the daughter on the weekends or how does it not anymore.
	You get, what's the.
	For like, before COVID, every time he called, he wanted my daughter there.
	It was okay.
	After COVID, he not sure if he got married, but he had a girlfriend and they had a child, and I haven't heard from him after that.
	Oh, he's been out of the picture.
	Yeah.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	Your daughter's, you said 12 or 13?
	So he hasn't talked to his daughter in a couple years?
	Yeah.
	At all?
	Nope.
	Okay, so he started a new family.
	And he's, I guess, okay.
	And I'm assuming you're current, you've been in a relationship for seven years.
	He has acted as a stepfather of sorts to your child.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I think that's it there.
	What about you?
	I am talking to someone.
	And fun fact, he was actually somebody who introduced me to your guys' podcast.
	Oh, there you go.
	There you go.
	I don't know which camera to look at, but I know if you're watching this.
	And yeah, we've been talking for about three months.
	He's a very humble guy, very hardworking.
	That is what I value most in a man.
	And I'm waiting to see how it goes.
	Very, very hopeful.
	Gotcha.
	So, talking stage?
	Is that how you would.
	Yes, I would say that.
	Three months.
	Yes.
	And longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was eight months.
	Yeah.
	Eight months.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	Till this day, it is still unclear.
	What really just happened was that I stopped reading or responding to messages.
	So I think we kind of both mutually were like, all right, I think it's over.
	But yeah.
	Okay.
	So it was like a mutual ghost?
	You just ghosted each other?
	What happened initially was, you know, there was a lot of build-up to it, but I eventually found out that he was on hinge.
	And I actually, he still to this day, he doesn't know that I knew.
	But I was so heartbroken.
	My friend, a friend, she sent a picture from her friend that she screenshotted and sent it to me while we were on call.
	And the funny thing was at that exact moment, he responded to the apology text that I wrote because I thought I was in the wrong.
	But yeah, I found that out, was so heartbroken that I just didn't bother to respond.
	I liked the message and left it at that.
	But yeah, I don't wish any harm on him.
	I never wish any harm on anyone who has, unfortunately, chose to do things like that in the past.
	But it was a, yeah.
	Even Hitler.
	I'm sorry.
	Good one.
	So eight months in, you discovered he was on Hinge?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Were you guys official boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Not just you thought, but there was an overt conversation.
	Boyfriend, girlfriend.
	And then you've been talking to a guy for three months.
	Have you known him for longer than that?
	Or you met?
	How did you meet him?
	We met by...
	Okay, the story how we met is really funny.
	I had this crash out on my Instagram story, and I don't know why, what the crash out was about, but I was just like, I want a lawyer in my life.
	I want someone who's in the military, and I want someone to manage my social media.
	It was like a total joke thing.
	And then he actually ended up reaching out and was just like, hey, I'm in the military.
	And I ended up talking back and forth.
	We met the first time.
	And the funniest thing was we were under a different impression of what that meetup was.
	I genuinely thought it was just a friend's thing.
	And he was under the full impression that I was trying to pursue him.
	But yeah, he ended up inviting me to Another dinner date, and I think from there on, we both kind of knew that this was we're gonna pursue each other, and it's been in the conversation: us being girlfriend and boyfriend.
	I think we're both in mutual agreement that it's gonna okay.
	I'll just say the whole thing, okay.
	Um, I was refraining from saying it because it just sounds so random out of the blue.
	Yesterday was the first day that we decided we were gonna start dating.
	So, if you were to ask, I was afraid that if I were to say one day we were dating, it'd sound like very bad.
	But yeah, we are dating for one day, and that's the full story.
	So, your boyfriend, girlfriend, or because you said talking stage, right?
	Because yesterday we agreed that we were going to start dating, but I didn't know how that would sound on podcasts, and he actually knows that.
	I was like, maybe we shouldn't say we've been dating for one day.
	So, but that's the truth.
	We've been dating for a single day.
	But you met him three months ago?
	Yes.
	Okay, I see.
	Is he so he's a viewer?
	He's a fan of the show?
	Yes, he's a huge fan of the show.
	He's in the chat right now, I bet.
	Is he fucking yo, Noah?
	Fucking reveal yourself.
	Reveal yourself, Noah.
	What's your fucking username?
	Type in the YouTube chat.
	Or don't.
	Or don't.
	But I mean, honestly, he should probably wait.
	So, okay.
	He introduced you to the show.
	Well, I knew about the show because of some clips of, I think, Gorlock the Destroyer is what she.
	Yeah.
	I saw those, sure.
	Yeah.
	And he watches the show.
	Yeah, he watches the show religiously.
	He loves you guys.
	He's a big fan of Arthur, I believe his name is.
	Andrew, sorry.
	Andrew.
	Okay.
	And I was double also thinking, should I say he's a fan of the show?
	Because I don't know the connotations that is going to give.
	But from what I know, and I'm not someone who tries to dig deep before it comes to me or I find out myself.
	But from what I know, he's a very ambitious man, very hardworking, follows the rules.
	How old is he?
	He is 26.
	26, okay.
	26.
	A little bit of an age gap relationship there.
	And so, okay, the origination story, though, was you were crashing out in an Instagram story saying you want a lawyer, a guy in the military, and something.
	What was the whole thing?
	And yeah, I was like, I want a lawyer.
	I need someone who's in the military and I need someone to manage my social media.
	So does he do all that?
	No, he's in the military.
	He's in the military.
	Yes.
	But he doesn't manage your social media.
	No.
	And not a lawyer.
	Okay.
	It would be hard to find someone who could do all that, but.
	He's in the military?
	Yes.
	Is he enlisted or is he an officer?
	He's enlisted.
	He's enlisted.
	Okay.
	Which branch of the military?
	Marines.
	Marines.
	Semperfy, Noah.
	Okay, so question though.
	You said that you were in a you'd been talking for three months or whatever.
	You just decided yesterday to make it official.
	Who brought that convo up?
	Was it you?
	Was it him?
	So it was some, he brought it.
	It was kind of a mutual conversation that we both brought up.
	He had asked me a couple days ago, and I told him that it wasn't the right time because I'm someone who's also trying, I'm very ambitious in what I do as well.
	And I realized that if he was going to come into my life, it has to be a decision I really think about, especially with what I do and the controversy that I do touch on.
	But yeah, it was a couple of days ago when I told him the conversation needed to wait.
	And then yesterday, we got on topic again during a phone call.
	And yeah, he asked me to be his girlfriend.
	Well, I asked him to ask me.
	And then I said yes.
	So yeah.
	Wait, he asked you.
	Yes, but I asked.
	It was something that I was holding back on because I was really scared.
	And I'm still a little bit afraid of making a mistake or is this the right thing?
	Is this the right time?
	But I think, yeah.
	I asked him to ask me and he asked me again and I said yes.
	Sorry if that's a little bit confusing, but.
	Okay.
	Wait, so this wasn't the first time he asked you?
	No.
	When was the first time he asked you?
	First time he asked me was a couple of days ago.
	Oh.
	And then you were like, I'm not sure?
	Yes.
	I was like, the conversation needs to wait.
	The conversation.
	You said that.
	Yes.
	Do we help our boy?
	Okay.
	You weren't sure.
	What changed in like three days, four days?
	The conversation needs to wait?
	There was a lot of things that we didn't talk about, a lot of things that we were both doing that slightly bothered each other that we didn't go over, which was part of what was making me hesitate.
	So we were on that call for quite the while, I think about two hours before we headed into that conversation about girlfriend and boyfriend.
	So I think it was realizing that the effort he was putting forward.
	You know, I am also someone who knows that some men, I would say boys, because I don't believe that men do this, but I know that some boys like to chase for a little bit and then they'll pull back.
	So, but he has been showing up pretty well every single time I needed him for the past three months.
	On top of that, gentlemen at all.
	I really think he's a very good gentleman.
	But you don't know someone, but I'm really just seeing how it goes and going based off of what I have seen from him.
	And I just made that decision with him because I'm going to let God handle it, you know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	In January, it'll be four years.
	I've never been in a situationship.
	I've never been on an online date.
	My longest relationship is three and a half years.
	And my last relationship wanted to get married.
	It was not my three and a half year.
	And that is why we broke up.
	Okay.
	So the last one that ended four years ago, he wanted to get married.
	How long was that relationship?
	Five months.
	Five months.
	Four and a half months, yeah.
	So he proposed to you?
	Like, had a ring, got down on one knee.
	He wanted to look at rings and asked me if I would marry him if he proposed to me, like, any day.
	So.
	And.
	And no.
	I was too young in my eyes.
	You were 27.
	Eight, 27?
	27?
	Too young to me.
	27, too young to get there.
	There were more things that I wanted to do.
	Yeah, honestly.
	More things?
	Like, be unemployed at 31?
	Okay.
	You could.
	More things.
	What do you want to do?
	He wasn't the right person.
	I mean, that's better than I wanted to do more things.
	But don't take it personally.
	So, okay.
	So you ended the relationship then?
	Okay.
	Do you regret doing that?
	No, not at all.
	Why was he the wrong guy?
	Why were you with him to begin with?
	It was really fun and it was really different from my three and a half year relationship.
	So that's kind of why I jumped into it.
	He lived in Malibu and we had a really fun relationship and I just knew that he wasn't the person that I wanted to have children with.
	So I'm not dating anybody that I don't think that I'm going to want children with.
	But you were dating him.
	Well, I'm saying I've been single for four years.
	What was it?
	What was wrong with him?
	I mean, honestly, he's a great person.
	He called me when the fires were happening.
	We still are in touch.
	We're just talking about.
	Are you still talking to him?
	I mean, I talk to him once a year.
	You know what I mean?
	We're not like...
	But there was a clean break?
	You know how some people like continue to hook up.
	No, no, no, never.
	I'll come back to that in a sec.
	3.5-year relationship.
	What age?
	I was 23 to 27.
	23 to 7.
	Who ended the relationship?
	We actually had a dream breakup.
	We both mutually broke up.
	We wanted different things.
	We had just different views of the future.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	He, okay.
	And going back to the most recent one, this four, five-month one where he proposed to you, you said he was great.
	Right?
	Good looking guy?
	Yeah.
	Good looking?
	You were physically attracted to him anyways.
	Did he treat you well?
	Yeah, very well.
	I mean, good personality.
	He had a basic relationship.
	Good personality?
	Yes, yeah.
	He had a good personality.
	Okay, he was hot-tempered.
	And I've never been around that type of person.
	Sure.
	And in my family, like everybody's always very calm.
	My dad is a very calm man.
	So being around somebody who kind of like flips over things, that was definitely a red flag to me.
	And I didn't really find out until like three months in.
	And then I started to realize like he's kind of crazy.
	When you say he was hot-tempered, like would he punch holes in walls?
	Would he, what would he do?
	No.
	Like would he raise his voice?
	What are we talking about?
	Okay, I can give you a little example.
	I have a couple of them.
	Oh, no.
	Was he playing?
	He's playing video games and he's got tilted and he broke his computer.
	What are we talking?
	No.
	There was one time when we were going into a restaurant and we didn't have face masks.
	And this was like, you know, a year and a half after COVID outbreak.
	And we didn't have masks.
	And obviously when you sit down at a restaurant, you take it off.
	And so just to walk in and be seated, they were like, you have to put one on.
	And then he starts like fighting and arguing with the host.
	I'm like, dude, this is policy.
	Like, I don't care.
	Let's go somewhere else.
	Like, I'm the type of person that's just like, whatever.
	He did not brush it off and he got really angry.
	And I was just like, I can't deal with this.
	Wait, something about the restaurant?
	The face.
	Yeah, so he started fighting with the host about having to wear a mask just to walk into the restaurant to sit down and take it off.
	You know what I mean?
	It's that type of stuff.
	Like getting easily angry.
	When was this?
	Like 2020?
	This is four years ago.
	In January, it'll be four years.
	So three and a half.
	I mean, he was probably right, though.
	He was right.
	He was probably right about face masks.
	Are you really going to start a fight with a host?
	Are you really going to do that?
	That just makes you crazy.
	Just go to the next place.
	You guys were in California, right?
	We remember.
	COVID was pretty stupid and fucking hot.
	Yeah, it was very stupid.
	I mean, no, I wouldn't start a fight.
	Exactly.
	I can see why he's frustrated.
	Yes.
	Frustrated or whatever.
	But was there any other examples, though?
	Hot-tempered?
	Yeah.
	I have a really good one.
	This was a definitive moment.
	I made a piece of toast and he had just had his place cleaned.
	I really hope that he doesn't watch this.
	I'm going to cry.
	I was eating a piece of toast and I dropped a few crumbs on the ground because I wasn't using a plate.
	And he grabs the toast out of my hand and throws it on the ground.
	And I was like, whoa.
	It was crazy.
	Like, he crunched it and threw it on the ground.
	And I was like, all right.
	You're insane.
	Like, I got the memo.
	I didn't need to use a plate.
	There's some crumbs.
	And then I proceeded to like sweep it up.
	And then I was just like, you have a good day.
	And then, like, obviously we stayed together.
	I didn't want to start if I just knew that he was upset over something else, stock market or whatever.
	And so I just left and I was like, I'll talk to you tomorrow.
	Hot-tempered, you know, and I'm just not used to that.
	I'm a person that was it like tile floor?
	It was, yeah.
	It's pretty easy to clean.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, probably an overreaction.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It's like, chill out.
	Chill.
	So were you going to marry him?
	We were in a good relationship.
	You were going to clean it up after that.
	I literally just took the broom out, swept it up, put it in the trash, and left because I was like, Yeah, that was an overreaction.
	That's, yeah, he's got a bit of a temper there.
	I'm not used to that either.
	That's weird.
	That's a valid complaint.
	Like, well, what's next?
	You know, he's going to fucking, I don't know, you spill a bit of water and he stabs you or something.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, that's probably a little much, you know.
	But he's still a great person.
	Just curious, though, if he was here, would he describe what happened differently?
	He apologized up and down the next day.
	He was like, that was.
	Oh, so he admitted he made a mistake.
	But some people have like this flip in them.
	Some people have this flip where they're all of a sudden they're crazy.
	Yeah.
	I don't have that.
	And I've never had people in my family that were crazy.
	So it's hard to adjust to that.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have a super chat here.
	Felicity, you're going to read, do reads.
	Hi, Victoria.
	You're doing amazing.
	Just figured out how to send a super chat.
	I'm so happy to be dating you.
	You look amazing.
	Brian, I love the show.
	You all do a great job.
	Wish Andrew was there.
	He's awesome.
	He's an awesome one, too.
	Yo, Noah, thank you for the super chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Andrew will be here next week, actually.
	Two debates.
	Guys, two debates.
	A debate Saturday, dating talk Sunday, debate Monday.
	So tune in for that.
	Noah, thank you for your super chat.
	You're welcome for me setting you up with Victoria.
	Obviously, I had a big hand in that.
	Probably everything you learned from the show was, you know, all the knowledge that I imparted upon you, Noah, enabled you to properly riz up.
	Do you prefer Victoria, Tori?
	What do you prefer?
	Victoria's good.
	Victoria.
	Vicki?
	V-Dog.
	Victoria is good.
	V-Dog, V-Dog.
	Okay.
	V-Dog.
	She'll say V-Dog.
	But Noah, you spelled my name wrong.
	It's with an I, the superior spelling.
	So, although, although, you know, Noah, I was a little concerned there because you were like trying to do the boyfriend.
	Oh, are we boyfriend, girlfriend?
	And I don't know, man.
	She did sound like it was an instant, yes, Noah.
	I love you.
	Well, have you guys said, I love you?
	No.
	Oh, that's awkward.
	Hey, Noah, the first time you say I love you to Victoria, it should be a super chat.
	You can tell your children.
	It'll be so romantic.
	Okay.
	Noah, this is what you're going to do.
	Yeah, that's what you tell your children.
	Oh, so mom and dad.
	Like little Victoria Jr. and Noah Jr.
	Oh, when was the first time you guys knew you were in love?
	Well, Will, Will, Sport.
	She was on the whatever podcast, this very controversial show.
	Hey, fuck it.
	Don't you mean Andrew Jr.
	Or Brian Jr.
	Actually, yes.
	If you guys end up having kids, I insist you name your son Brian.
	Fair, fair.
	I insist because I will facilitate.
	I'm also going to be the best man at the wedding.
	Noah, you don't get a say in this.
	I'm just, I'm the best man.
	Felicity is going to be the bridesmaid.
	Okay, you made a honor.
	Have you ever been a bridesmaid, Felicity?
	No.
	Good talk.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Where were we?
	Relationship status.
	I think we've mostly finished up, right?
	Single for four years, any guys in between?
	Four-year period?
	I have dated two people in four years.
	Two people, okay.
	But neither of them were for how long?
	Serious.
	One of them I dated for like a month, and another one about two months, maybe a month and a half.
	It was just short, not serious, and yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So have you – no, I think that's about it.
	What about you?
	I've been married for 10 years.
	We've been together for 13.
	Hi, babe.
	He's at the Hotel Resting.
	Well-deserved rest.
	We have two kids together, and we're here actually celebrating our 10th anniversary.
	Congratulations.
	You picked a good location, Santa Barbara.
	And you had two kids, right?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay.
	And my understanding from the pre-show notes you sent, you guys were college sweethearts, and you guys are the only people that you have, I don't know if it was dated or just been with.
	I had a high school boyfriend, but that doesn't really count, right?
	I went on dates before I met him, but I didn't like anybody like that well, unfortunately, so I wasn't going to lead anybody along.
	I actually met him at a park bench, and he let me do all the talking.
	I was like, I like this guy.
	And yeah, but we met in college.
	We actually went to the same high school.
	I dated one of his best friends, but I hadn't met him because he was really shy.
	So he thought I was crazy because we had a crazy breakup because it was high school.
	But thankfully, he put that aside.
	And look, 13 years later.
	Oh, but yeah, also.
	So you were both virgins.
	Yes, that's what you were getting at.
	Yes.
	I was his first girlfriend.
	And yes, we were virgins when we got married.
	And we were together for three years before we got married.
	Okay.
	Very cool.
	Very cool.
	We were virgins until marriage.
	Yes.
	Why do you make the face?
	Because they were together for three years before they got married.
	And they were virgins at wedding day.
	Yeah.
	That's very advanced.
	That's good.
	I'm sure you're almost.
	He was a really good guy.
	He knew from the beginning it wasn't going to happen.
	And he's very black and white.
	And he was like, if you think that's right, I think it's right.
	He's mixed race.
	No, no.
	He, I don't know.
	What did I say?
	He said he's black and white.
	No, like, he's very, like, like black and white.
	Like, yes or no?
	No gray orange.
	Oh, yeah.
	But like in a good way.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He was like, he really respected it.
	And he believed it too a little bit because he was more old school.
	So he's a white guy.
	He is.
	Very white.
	Sorry, babe.
	Love you.
	You're not black and white.
	He's not black and white.
	No, my first crush ever was a black guy, so I wasn't against that, but he's just white.
	Yeah, we met.
	Good times.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Very single.
	Very single.
	What does that mean?
	I've been in and out of relationships, so I don't even know what the longest one is.
	But I think the last two kind of mattered the most.
	So I'm going to say maybe that.
	How long have you been single for?
	So I was dating someone about like last year, and that only lasted like three months.
	And then I actually dated someone just this September, and it lasted just a month.
	Sorry, the first one you mentioned, how long was it?
	That was last year.
	How long?
	Like three months.
	Were your boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	He broke up with me.
	So would you say you've been single for a year?
	About, and then I was dating someone in September.
	So for a month.
	For just a month, though, you said?
	Just a month.
	Who broke up with him?
	He broke up with me.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	I can't really say.
	Like, none of them really mattered that much to have it be like an actual relationship.
	Longest consecutive period of time you saw a guy?
	So I do have a friend.
	We've known each other for about like five years, I would say.
	But it's not like intimate or anything.
	Have you had sex with him?
	Maybe at the very beginning.
	Wait, what do you mean maybe?
	Yeah.
	How do you not know if he fucks up?
	It's just because we just don't see each other that way, I guess.
	Well, regardless of how you see each other past, present, future, you objectively had his penis inside of you.
	One way, right?
	I mean, so you did, in fact, have sex with him.
	Once.
	One time.
	When we thought that it was going to work out.
	At the very beginning.
	Very beginning.
	Like when you just met him.
	We just met him.
	Yeah.
	And that was the only time you had sex?
	Yes.
	It's very complicated.
	But then you went on to know him for five years.
	Yes.
	Asexually?
	No.
	A-rom.
	Like, you're just strictly friends.
	It's strictly friends.
	It's a bit complicated.
	He has feelings, kind of, but.
	He has a crush.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just curious, though.
	So how soon after you said early on when you just met him, you guys hooked up, and then after that, nothing.
	How soon, how long did you know him before you guys hooked up?
	About a month.
	Like, we really tried to start something because we had a lot of chemistry.
	Okay.
	But it would just never work out.
	Yeah.
	But he likes you.
	He likes me.
	Still.
	Still.
	But you don't like him.
	You're friends.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's just, it's just, it will never work out.
	Why?
	I have a lot of standards that I expect from a man.
	Sure.
	What are those?
	Someone with goals and consistency.
	When you say consistency, what do you mean?
	When they say something, they mean it.
	What was an instance in which he has not been consistent with you?
	Almost everything in his life.
	It's a bit chaotic.
	And I mean that in a nice way.
	He does drink a lot.
	Not that.
	Is he an alcoholic or he just drinks a lot?
	I would say he.
	Sorry.
	Has he been to AA?
	Has he been to Rihanna?
	No, no.
	No.
	Okay, but he drinks a lot every day?
	Every day.
	How much?
	I can't say.
	Every.
	Every.
	He's blasted every day.
	Shit-based canned chips.
	Definitely on the weekends.
	And it's sometimes.
	Do you have a job?
	He does have a job, a really good job.
	What's his job?
	He's a sanitation worker for the city.
	That pays well, I think, right?
	Or can it can?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, he does really well.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So why only the sex one time?
	Was it bad?
	I think because the chemistry that we had, like, it was really good as friends.
	And when we tried to make it more, that's why it was bad, I guess.
	I don't know if that makes any sense.
	But it's.
	So the sex wasn't hot.
	It wasn't good.
	Yeah, it wasn't the best.
	It wasn't good.
	It wasn't the best.
	Well, I think it's because, like, we couldn't, like, work out together.
	You know, it's like the...
	Do Pilates, or what do you mean?
	No.
	Go to the gym?
	He, him, no.
	No.
	But when you say workout, you don't mean like exercise.
	I mean, like, the feeling, like, the feelings that we had for each other, it just wasn't there.
	It's more of a friend thing, but I think we're continuously, well, he's trying to continuously try to figure it out.
	I know that it'll never work out, but yeah.
	So you've not really had a relationship?
	Not really.
	No.
	I mean, the last two, I only mentioned them because I feel like what I was looking in for a man, they had.
	So those meant more to me than anything else.
	You said you had high standards, right?
	Not high standards.
	What was the high expectations, I guess?
	High expectations.
	Yeah.
	Did the previous two men you were dating have those things?
	Yes.
	And did you end it with those men?
	They both broke up with me.
	They broke up with you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So weird.
	Did you hook up with them?
	One of them.
	One of them?
	Yeah, the one that was for three months.
	Three months.
	Okay.
	But besides the five-year friendship alcoholic guy or whatever, or heavy drinker or whatever it is, what's the longest period of time you've actually been in something?
	Because that you guys hooked up, but you weren't dating for five years.
	You said you know them for five years.
	Longest period of time?
	See, it's really hard to say because I just feel like if you're in a relationship with someone, you know, and it lasts, then that's what matters.
	Like, I've been in and out of relationships with people that just didn't matter.
	So I don't know.
	So I guess like maybe a few months, like it's been really terrible for me.
	But okay, so even of the ones that it didn't matter, what is the longest period of time that you were seeing one of them?
	Maybe just a few months.
	Three months, four months, five months?
	No more than six months.
	It's always been months.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I see.
	And you're 35, you said?
	Yeah.
	35?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Do you want to have kids?
	I do.
	Do you want to get married?
	Really bad.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let's explore your high expectations.
	Okay.
	What are your, you said they need to have goals and they need to be consistent.
	What else?
	Yeah.
	Just responsible.
	Responsible.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know.
	Sorry, I'm nervous.
	Okay.
	Let's start with this looks-wise.
	Do you have any expectations on looks?
	Not really, just as long as they take care of themselves.
	Okay.
	Height?
	Any height requirements?
	Just taller than me.
	How tall are you?
	5'5.
	Okay, so you'll date a guy who's 5'6?
	Yes.
	End up.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Will you date a guy who's obese?
	No.
	Okay, why not?
	I just prefer, I feel like, I mean, I know obviously I'm a little bit overweight, but I definitely want my partner to take care of themselves in that way, especially if we're getting a little bit older.
	When you say take care, so I mean, fit.
	You want the guy to be fit.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	I mean, I'm not saying like, you know, being obese is necessarily a terrible thing, but okay.
	But you wouldn't date a guy who's obese.
	No, probably not.
	No.
	Okay.
	Please don't take this the wrong way.
	Do you are like you're probably obese yourself?
	Yeah, and I know.
	So why would you not have an insulting way?
	Why would you not?
	No, no, that's okay.
	I mean, I have gained weight.
	I know that.
	I do take care of myself.
	You know, I'm active.
	So, I mean, as long as the person is active, then I'm okay with that.
	Here, I'm going to pull up a photo next, private chat.
	Get it pulled up as quick as you can, please.
	So, if he was like healthy but had a few extra pounds, like, would you be okay with that?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, that's what I'm saying.
	I'm not saying that, you know, as long as he was healthy.
	Make us smaller.
	So, can you tell us what your cutoff is here?
	What's your cutoff?
	I mean, the 40% I wouldn't.
	You wouldn't do 40%?
	No.
	What about 35%?
	Yeah, that's like a dad bod.
	40% you wouldn't, though.
	40% or bigger.
	No.
	Why not?
	What's wrong with the 40%?
	It just kind of looks unhealthy.
	I mean, but that's just a picture.
	If they look like that and they were active, then that's a different scenario.
	I'm not trying to be rude.
	I know.
	Is that a good idea?
	I was ready for it.
	I was ready for your body type equivalent is probably the 40%.
	Probably.
	I'm not denying that.
	I know what I look like.
	So what's wrong with expecting something a little bit better from a partner?
	Why should I be okay with you want family and kids?
	I do, of course.
	The question then becomes: you mentioned you have high expectations.
	We only just started talking about looks, which is important.
	It's good.
	You know, people want to be physically attracted to their partner.
	But you're 35, you want to be married.
	You want to have kids.
	Yes.
	Women do have a fertility window.
	Yes.
	Look, you still have time.
	This idea that, okay, once someone's 35, she's going to be, it's impossible.
	No, women can get pregnant into their 40s.
	It does over time, though.
	Once you get into your early mid-30s, it does become a bit more difficult.
	This isn't to say that you find a guy in the next year or two, you could probably still have two, two, three kids.
	Maybe.
	But I know.
	Men do care about looks.
	They do.
	Women care about looks.
	Yes.
	Is it more about the look, or you just want somebody who's going to go out and do stuff with you, or are you just scared of losing the person because of the weight?
	No, see, that's kind of where the conversation went.
	It's not just because of the looks.
	Like, obviously, if they are a certain weight type, but they take care of themselves, then that's a different scenario.
	But if they're not taking care of themselves, but you're going to probably give a chance to a guy.
	Oh, no, absolutely.
	I would.
	Like, if they're like, hey, you know, like me, like, I obviously have a lot to do to kind of get my body back.
	And if they were in the same category, then yes, absolutely.
	If someone is not willing to take that length of bettering themselves, then no um okay, what are your?
	Uh, looks wise uh, can they be bald or balding?
	That's fine okay no, don't really care about hair.
	No um height, you're pretty reasonable on height.
	Um, penis size does that matter?
	Um, I suppose.
	So I mean, they can't really control that, though.
	Right, they have to be good at other things.
	Like what other things?
	Oral, oral sex is that?
	Yeah, what if a guy won't do that?
	Deal breaker?
	Yeah, pretty much at this point.
	Yeah I, I would like, to date, to do, you know, to go further, rather than just kind of fuck around.
	So okay um uh, what are some of the other?
	There's height, we do okay height, hair you don't care about hair so much.
	They can be balding.
	Uh, so the 30 pull up the the photo again.
	So it's 35, the 35 body fat and below.
	So 30, you're good with yeah 35, but 40 nope nope nope okay, all right um, but if they're like going to the gym and try to better themselves like okay okay yeah, I think she just wants them to have goals.
	I just want them to have goals.
	I want someone who's goal oriented, who wants to better themselves rather than just not doing anything.
	Okay uh, what are your other high expectations?
	We talked about looks, but won't you uh, in terms of job?
	Uh, do you have a income requirement?
	Not really, I mean um, I don't make that much, so I would hope that they would make the same, or a little bit more.
	Make the same or more.
	Okay um, personality wise, is there anything there that you like?
	They have to be really funny and they have to be funny.
	Yes, I have a very dark sense of humor, so if they can't be sarcastic, then we just won't control.
	When you say you have a dark sense of humor, what do you mean?
	Like you're sarcastic, i'm very sarcastic.
	Are you sarcastic to the guy you're dating?
	I mean like, will you give him attitude?
	Possibly, sometimes it comes out.
	Do you think men like that?
	Um no, I mean i'm.
	I'm also a really polite girl.
	Sure yeah, you know, but i'm not gonna go and be a bitch to someone right, some people think funny and then it just translates to being like, kind of catty or bitchy or sarcastic.
	No no um yeah, have has that ever been an issue in the past with the past guys you've dated?
	Um, you know the sarcasm or whatever.
	No, not an issue.
	Okay um, the you said a few of the guys have broke up with you.
	When they break up with you, what do they typically do?
	They cite to anything as, uh, here's why I broke up with you.
	Is there anything there?
	Yeah, this this is gonna sound really really weird and i'm not trying to be cocky, but the last you guys did break up with me for the same reason.
	Um, they basically said that um, they couldn't give me the time that I deserved.
	Okay yeah okay um, so the guy has to be really really funny, not just so.
	When I think about funny and humor, I I view it in sort of different ways.
	I'll view it like this, so there's sense of humor, which is the ability to detect when somebody else is being funny, but you might yourself not actually have the capacity to make to be funny yourself.
	Sense that's?
	I mean, some people use that interchangeably.
	Sense of humor.
	Um, I think men appreciate a sense of humor in women, the capacity or ability to sense when they're being funny.
	But I don't know if men actually value women who are funny, like women who make them laugh.
	I think they do.
	I think they do.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I have a lot of guy friends who appreciate my comedy.
	Oh, guy friends.
	Oh.
	Have any of them demonstrated a romantic interest in you?
	Yes.
	And my ex loved that I was really funny.
	So.
	Well, pride myself on that.
	I would say this, though.
	The traits that you value in yourself, it does not.
	Men, to some degree, even honest men, do to some degree pander to women.
	And I think this is just a polite thing to do oftentimes.
	You know, if I'm on a date with a girl and she cares about her, I don't know, her education and her career.
	From me internally, I frankly don't give a fuck.
	Your education and your career mean nothing to me in terms of my attraction to you.
	It means nothing.
	Zero.
	But it would never occur to me if I'm on a date with a woman to say, to actually say that to her.
	I would demonstrate a degree of, I mean, I'd be polite.
	I'd demonstrate a degree of, I guess, feigned interest.
	You don't want her to make you laugh?
	You don't think that that's...
	Yeah, so I guess relating that off of education and career, relating it to humor.
	No, I don't really care about that.
	I mean, if she's actually funny, sometimes a woman can do a goof or a gaff, and I might laugh at it, I guess.
	Sure, I guess I would, sure, that's cool, I guess.
	It's like a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what I care about.
	I'm not going to be like, oh man, I'm on the fence about this girl, which is already a bad sign for the woman.
	I'm on the fence about her, but she's funny.
	I guess I'll fuck her.
	I guess I'll date her.
	I guess I'll marry her.
	Men don't care about you being funny.
	That's you guys.
	So one thing that women do is you will think, women will think about the things they like, the things they find attractive in men.
	I find ambition attractive in men.
	I find humor attractive in men.
	I find dominance or masculinity or leadership attractive in men.
	And you want to project that out and map that out onto what you think men want.
	Men and women don't want the same things.
	Men and women are not perfectly symmetrical in what we find attractive.
	There's asymmetry in what women find attractive and what men find attractive.
	Women like humor.
	Women like masculinity.
	Women like ambition, success, status.
	All those things I just listed.
	If men are being honest, don't give a fuck about any of those things in women.
	They don't care.
	I don't value status or ambition.
	You don't value ambition?
	Are you sure?
	Not really.
	So a guy who works at McDonald's, you're totally fine with that?
	Obviously, I mean, why obviously?
	But okay, explain it.
	I'm not looking for somebody who works at McDonald's, but I'm not chasing ambitious dudes.
	My ex of three and a half years, he's well on his way to being a CFO, and he's a year younger than me.
	And that was a huge thing in our relationship where I didn't value his ambition.
	I didn't like how he chased money.
	Like it was the most important thing in the world.
	And who I am looking for in this world, it has nothing to do with their ambition or how much their income is.
	It has to do with how much I enjoy being around them, how chill they are, and how our connection is.
	Do you want to get married?
	If I connect with somebody who works at McDonald's and I fall in love with them, so be it.
	Do you want to get married and have kids?
	I do.
	Where do you live again?
	In Calabasas.
	Okay, that's a pretty nice area, right?
	California?
	Do you want to remain in Calabasas in Southern California?
	No, I don't intend to.
	Do you want to be a stay-at-home mom?
	Maybe at some point, like once I've had two, maybe three kids.
	So you want two to three kids?
	With one kid, I'm sure I could go back to work.
	But yes, I do want two or three kids.
	But do you want to take some time off of work, perhaps a year, two years, three years to raise your kids?
	Like I said, if I had one kid, I could go back to work.
	I think that I could juggle that.
	But with two to three kids, I don't really want to work, but I also don't.
	At all.
	When you say if you have two to three kids.
	When my three children are young, no, I do not want to work.
	So how long would you not be working then?
	I don't know.
	I haven't thought the whole thing through.
	Typically, kids will be dependent on you until at least 18.
	So if you have three kids back to back, that's 20 years.
	Would you like to stay at home for 20 years?
	Potentially.
	Well, if you want to live in Southern California, you better find an ambition.
	You better find an ambition.
	Well, wherever you live, you're going to need some degree of a man who has some ambition so that he can provide, so he can enable you to not have to work.
	Unless, I mean, the economic realities of having children.
	I understand.
	I understand.
	I just, again, there's no like income range that I'm looking for.
	I think that that's all just ridiculous.
	Love is more important and it is all you need.
	I will say my kids have never been in daycare.
	I just have a very flexible work schedule or I don't work that much anymore.
	And it's beyond amazing.
	It's so much fun.
	I always thought my husband would be like a stay-at-home dad.
	No, he works, he supports us, and we have so much fun.
	So I guess to circle things back here.
	So you say you don't care about ambition.
	I'll go ahead and grant it.
	Even if it was the case for you, what I'm talking about here is a general principle.
	I would say in general, I would say the majority of women, so majority would be 51% or more or women, do actually have a pretty vested interest in a man's economic or financial attractiveness.
	Maybe it's not the case for you.
	Maybe you'll date the McDonald's worker.
	The most recent guy working.
	No, my long relationship.
	When I met him, he worked at a car wash.
	He made less money than me.
	He was making like $12 an hour.
	Sure.
	And I fell in love with him.
	He slept on a mattress on the floor.
	Like it was a mattress on the floor.
	At his home?
	No, at his apartment where he shared a room with his brother.
	Okay.
	Fell in love with this guy.
	After being single for my entire life, I was 23 years old.
	He was 22.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Now he is very successful years later, but we broke up when he was successful.
	Like making six figures.
	Now, would you have preferred if he had his own apartment in a nice part of town?
	No.
	So just to be clear, if there's two options, living with his brother, sharing the same room, so like if you guys want to hook up, he's got to like get his brother out there or whatever.
	Hey, put a sock on the door.
	You prefer that over him having his own apartment?
	I just don't like what money does to people.
	And I've grown up just kind of despising.
	What does what does money do to people?
	It changes them.
	It changes their entire attitude.
	Well, it enables them to provide for their family.
	Wow, that's a really terrible thing.
	I mean, I've seen it.
	I've grown up around people.
	I've grown up around people who didn't have a lot and then all of a sudden had a lot, you know.
	And you're just, you change.
	Your whole demeanor and mentality and you just change as a person and I don't like it.
	I don't think money necessarily makes you evil.
	I think it's a good thing.
	I'm not saying it makes you evil.
	It just changes you.
	I disagree.
	I mean, it's not.
	You become more entitled.
	And yeah.
	It can happen, but I also, I don't think that's a rule.
	Like, all people who make money.
	Okay, not all of them.
	I'm not talking everyone.
	I don't say always and every time, but a lot of the time that happens.
	And money takes good people and corrupts them.
	Wait, so by this, if this is actually the case.
	I'm talking about very wealthy people.
	I'm not talking about people that are just like making a living, like $65K a year.
	I'm not talking about general population.
	But okay, do you disagree?
	Okay, that's fine for you.
	But do you disagree in general, in principle, that women do?
	Value ambition.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And wealth.
	Yeah, because they have no idea.
	So just for the sake of the rest of this convo, I understand each of you are unique individuals, but when I'm making a general statement, like if I'm making a statement, I'm speaking generalities.
	Okay.
	So it would be helpful for the sake of conversation if you don't defer to, well, but I, you know.
	Got it.
	Got it.
	Can I say my husband?
	I'm sorry, babe.
	When I met him, had no ambition whatsoever.
	Didn't even have a job.
	We were much younger, of course, and it took time, but now he is very ambitious and takes care of us.
	So, I mean, sometimes you gotta, you know, let people grow up or work on themselves too a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Sure, here.
	We're gonna let some chats come through.
	Sorry for the delay on these guys.
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	Get yourself a simple black guy.
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	I mean, they can't really argue with that, but no.
	Have you ever dated a black guy?
	No.
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	We have a super chat here.
	Papa Penguin.
	This show mirrors why.
	Felicity?
	This show mirrors why Western society feels adrift.
	It rewards noise over thought and imitation over intellect.
	We're unhappy because we gorge on context like this instead of substance.
	Humanity thrived when men and women faced hardship together.
	Stop feeding the beast.
	This show, okay.
	That's so true.
	Like when things are hard, you get so much closer.
	So he says we're unhappy because, okay, so he's a hater.
	We're unhappy because we gorge on content like this instead of substance.
	Humanity thrived when men and women faced hardship together.
	Stop feeding the beast.
	Look, Papa Penguin, I'm open to taking this criticism.
	Have you ever done any anti-feminist advocacy at all?
	Because my position would be: I have this podcast in terms of the noise that's out there in terms of content.
	I have, you know, I have a decent audience, decent viewership, but in terms of the scale and scope of my influence as compared to the feminist propaganda that's out there that's been propagandizing women for generations, since the mid to late 1800s, but especially in the past 30, 40, 50, 60 years, I don't think there's any sort of comparison that can be made.
	If we're making some sort of accusation that my whatever podcast with 5,000 live concurrent viewers, which is okay, but it's not really anything that's going to move the needle.
	I would simply just ask you, why, if this is really your primary ambition, why don't you just go and protest all the, I don't know how you would do it, you could protest every single feminist class, feminist program that's at every single university in this country.
	You could, that would be much more productive, I think, because actually feminism, I think, is the primary divider between men and women, not a terms of our audience, mid-tier online audience viewership.
	This is this is a drop in the bucket compared to the like the whatever podcast is a single drop of water and feminism is an ocean.
	It is all the oceans in the world combined.
	That's where your focus should be, to be honest, Papa Penguin.
	If you're in the chat though, why don't you give me your response and I'll just respond to you.
	Papa Penguin, go ahead, type in the chat.
	I'm looking at the chat right now.
	Oh, by the way, somebody, he just called us mid-tier.
	No, no, no.
	I don't see.
	You guys are not mid-tier.
	When I say mid-tier, I'm talking about our audience, our viewership numbers.
	You guys are all great.
	My audience is all Giga Chad.
	Giga Chat.
	You all have, you know, you guys are all great.
	I'm saying 5,000 viewers.
	That's not influence.
	That's not really influence.
	Is he in the chat?
	He wrote me sent in a little super here.
	Oh, who takes modern feminists?
	Who takes modern feminist feminist?
	You misspelled that, by the way.
	They're an intellectual joke.
	Hold on.
	Feminism is deeply seated in academia.
	Every single, by the way, the collective endowment of all the universities and colleges in this country is something like $1 trillion.
	That's massive institutional and systemic influence.
	Every single college, almost every single college and university in this country has a women's studies, gender studies, feminist studies, gender, I think is a gender studies program.
	Every single corporation, major corporations steeped in feminist ideology, the news, the media, the government, journalism, media.
	It's all feminist.
	Who takes modern feminism seriously?
	The mainstream.
	The mainstream does.
	So I don't understand.
	That doesn't even make sense.
	So I don't know.
	But yeah, $1 trillion collective endowment for all these universities.
	It's massively, it has its claws, its tentacles wrapped in pretty much everything.
	Feminism is absolutely taken seriously.
	It's the mainstream narrative.
	Even in the conservative movement.
	Anyways, we'll get off of that, though.
	If you want to send another one, I'll engage you.
	But are we caught up on all the chats?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	Where were we?
	We were talking about high expectations.
	And then Lauren there.
	Lauren?
	What's that?
	What is that?
	I don't know.
	Thanks, Lauren.
	I don't know.
	What were your other high expectations you said you had?
	Oh, funny?
	Oh, you need a guy who's compatible.
	Very, very funny.
	Very funny.
	Would you settle for average funny?
	Yes.
	But that's not very funny.
	Well, any sense of humor.
	But what if he, you know, maybe he makes you chuckle just one time per week?
	Is that not satisfactory for you?
	No?
	Would you?
	For a woman?
	Yeah.
	What if she just wasn't?
	She can be fucking mute.
	Really?
	Fuck.
	No.
	Really?
	I don't care.
	Why?
	I don't care.
	I'm looking for them.
	Humor is not a priority for men.
	We don't have to do that.
	What's your priority of international money?
	Well, I'll tell you in a sec.
	What's that?
	Any kind of engagement.
	Oh, sure.
	I think, I mean, look, I think high IQ women are attractive, but I don't like, I don't, well, I don't need to have deep combos.
	Don't care.
	Don't need funny.
	Don't care.
	It's just not, it's not important.
	I understand the deep convo thing.
	That's not important.
	Yeah, don't care.
	Life is comedy.
	You just.
	Yeah, that's what Netflix is for.
	I don't understand this, whether it's men.
	I think women do this more, but I don't understand this.
	Men are not here to be your dancing monkeys.
	We're not here to be your entertainment.
	We're not here to be your Netflix, to be your HBO Max, to be your fucking Hulu, to be your Amazon.
	If you want to, your entertainment need to be met.
	There's a lot of media out there.
	I don't think it's men's job to be your entertainment.
	Media is for zombies.
	Yeah, I mean, it's well, okay, but we're not here to be your dancing monkeys.
	We're here to be your boyfriends.
	We're here to be your husbands.
	I don't, this idea that, not to say that there's something wrong, like if your boyfriend's funny, there's nothing wrong with that.
	That's good.
	That's great.
	Wonderful.
	Bringing me joy.
	You have a positive quality.
	But this idea that when you say you have high expectations and the guy has to be very, very funny, bare minimum, I think.
	I feel like you're making a big conversation about something kind of small.
	I just want to say that.
	Like personality, you know, like not boring.
	Okay.
	Tell me what.
	Do you think you have a good personality?
	Like, so-so.
	I say, you know.
	Like, are you charismatic?
	I can be.
	Can be.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you value charisma?
	Like, does your boyfriend need to have charisma?
	I mean, a good personality, I suppose so.
	How about that?
	Let me ask you.
	I don't want someone like monotone, you know.
	My dear, you are monotone.
	You're monotone.
	You're a little monotone.
	I'm not trying to be monotonous.
	I'm nervous.
	I'm just nervous.
	A little monotone.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's kind of this thing where it's like you don't.
	These traits that even you possess, you don't want them in the man.
	We talked about the, you know, you wouldn't take the guy with a 40% body fat.
	Okay.
	Are you willing to settle?
	I shouldn't.
	I don't even.
	Will you date a guy who's average?
	Yes.
	But average personality, average humor?
	See, I wasn't saying that that was like a number one quality.
	He has to be funny.
	But it's.
	Well, I was asking you what your high expectations are.
	My high expectations?
	Didn't you say he has to be really funny?
	So when you say he has to be, I'd rather not waste like 10 minutes on the convo if you don't actually hold the standard.
	But I understand.
	Okay, so you all right.
	So he doesn't have to.
	On one hand, you said on one hand.
	If he's boring, it would never work out.
	He has to be born.
	What's wrong with a boring guy, though?
	What's wrong with that?
	I wouldn't be able to have a conversation with them.
	It's just if it's just like straight edge, like business all the time.
	Well, what if he's a good guy?
	He's a good, nice guy.
	But, you know, he's not very funny.
	He's kind of just a normal guy.
	I feel like they get funny as you get to know them, though.
	Sure.
	Sure, I think that.
	I always give chances.
	Well, yeah, I mean, I think the first impression, some people are flowers.
	They blossom as you get to know them.
	But some people are just, doesn't matter.
	You've known somebody for two years.
	They're kind of dull.
	I would say, even if somebody's not stereotypically funny, like my husband, as I've gotten to know him, he's like, so everything he does is so funny and so cute, you know?
	Where at first I'd be like, oh my gosh, you're so lame, you know?
	It's kind of after you fall in love, the guy doesn't have to meet all the criterias you have because they will kill themselves.
	Yeah.
	Figuring it out.
	The person you fall in love is going to be more handsome.
	Or I don't know if it goes like that with guys.
	If you've made a pretty girl, is she going to be the most gorgeous girl in the world if you fall in love?
	I think so.
	In a way, at least.
	So he doesn't have to be very funny.
	He can just be average funny.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	But then when you say you have high expectations, what are those?
	I guess just someone who has goals and ambitions like we talked about before.
	Okay.
	Being responsible.
	When you say goals, what do you mean?
	Well, I have some goals that I want to accomplish.
	So, well, I'm a data analyst, so I'd like to take my career a little bit further than it is now.
	Okay.
	So I'd want someone, you know, with that same goal set.
	Do you think we've like emphatized men?
	Because we just assume they like, like, we're like high standards all the time.
	And we just assume like men can't be responsible or they can't do this or have goals.
	Like, what do you think?
	No, I'm not saying that.
	I'm, you know, it's, I guess it's difficult to explain.
	I feel like you just want to be swept off your feet and just magically fall in love.
	And when you wake out of it, you're not just going to be.
	Go ahead.
	No, continue.
	Continue.
	What's the word?
	You don't want to be disappointed in the guy you fell in love, but first you need to get the guy and he has to make you feel like a princess or you will have to sweep your feet.
	It's not exactly like that.
	Maybe the disappointment part, I would like to not be disappointed.
	And I kind of feel like through my whole dating part of me is always just kind of been disappointment.
	But I don't think it's because like my standards are too high.
	I've dated a lot of men, but.
	But you said you have high expectations.
	Well, I do.
	I think because I'm 35 now.
	Yeah.
	I, like I said, I don't want to just mess around with these guys anymore.
	So I would assume that they would have like some future goals.
	So when you say goals, are we talking like minimum yearly income?
	You wrote here, you want the guy to make $80,000.
	But so are the goals just financial?
	No, no, not financial, just being a responsible person.
	And I think that has to deal with the men that I have dated maybe haven't been that responsible.
	So just hold yourself to a standard.
	She's like, just looking for somebody that wants to better themselves.
	Yeah, just someone that wants to.
	Because I want a better menu.
	I'll give you some advice.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Be, okay, all the things that you're looking for in somebody else, embody them.
	Like, if you're, if, if you are ambitious, you might attract somebody who's also ambitious.
	If you're really fit, if you're going to the gym, whatever, you might attract somebody who's really fit.
	Like, all the things that you're looking for in people, they're probably also looking for similar things.
	I know that Brian likes to disagree that a guy who's funny is not looking for a girl who's funny, but he might be.
	No, I'm saying in general, there's asymmetry between what men and women find attractive.
	So are there, again, this is talking in generalities.
	Are there, you can point me to a man or some men who do find humor attractive in women.
	Majority of men don't give a fuck.
	I'm not exactly saying that two people need to be the funniest people in the room to be attracted to each other.
	But having a similar sense of humor, for example, I love South Park.
	I want my partner to love South Park.
	We will watch South Park together.
	So wait, wait, wait.
	It's a deal breaker if the guy doesn't like South Park.
	Well, he can like Family Guy.
	No, no, no, but like what you're listing there is like a pretty base base like very I'm giving just an example.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But if the guy didn't like South Park, but he's otherwise great, you're not dating him?
	Maybe not.
	Oh my God, these girls are not dating great guys because they don't like it.
	I'm joking.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	I think that's why.
	I'm joking.
	Oh my God.
	He whatever.
	He doesn't like this thing.
	Whatever.
	That's not my criteria.
	Oh, you don't like this show.
	We can't date.
	That's not it.
	But I'm just saying, like, we might have the same sense of humor.
	So I fall in love with him.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Or you fall in love with him because you have a baseline physical attraction to him and he meets like your like primary needs in terms of other things.
	Are you disagreeing with me?
	I'm 1920.
	I don't, my primary needs, you have to meet my primary needs.
	Yeah, like being a well-putted.
	Yeah, what would that have to do with the 1920s?
	In fact, it would be the opposite.
	Hold on.
	When I say primary needs, I'm just talking about like the important stuff.
	Like he's a good person.
	He's virtuous.
	He treats you well.
	He's kind.
	He's, and if you prefer the traits like he's he's a masculine guy and he's a leader and he's these sorts of things, that's way more important than like you guys liking the same music or TV shows.
	Again, that's that was not my point, is having a common interest.
	That's not, that wasn't my point.
	It's having like the same, a similar sense of humor and like having the same level.
	Yeah, being on the being on the same page about things, being able to like read each other's mind.
	Like you give them a look and you know what they're thinking because you you're thinking a similar thing, you know?
	It's it's that type of relationship.
	And in the things that you're listing, I know a dozen dudes that meet that criteria.
	Good guy, you know, treats me nice.
	Like, yep.
	Wait, keep going with that.
	So good looking?
	Yeah.
	Basic attraction.
	Good looking.
	Makes a decent income.
	Like whatever.
	Why are you listing these things like they're nothing?
	These are, hold on.
	I don't understand this.
	I don't know what exactly you women are looking for.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	When you present to me, when women present to me, he's on paper, right?
	He's everything.
	He's good looking.
	He treats me well.
	He comes from a good family.
	He's kind.
	He's generous.
	He has a good job.
	He treats me.
	I think I already said that.
	He treats me well.
	What the fuck is missing?
	The virginity.
	Pick the fucking guy.
	You guys are crazy.
	What do you want?
	You want him to abuse you?
	You want him to treat you like shit?
	I've never been in a shit.
	I'm not something about women.
	You guys want a guy who's kind of got a rough edge to it.
	You guys want a guy who kind of treats you like a dick.
	I think there's something there.
	When women can say on paper, he's everything.
	He's good looking.
	He's a good person.
	Pick the fucking guy then.
	What is missing?
	Tell me.
	Compatibility.
	Imagine if I sat here and said, she's beautiful.
	She's amazing.
	She treats me kindly.
	She's whatever.
	Her looks are everything that I want.
	She's a virgin.
	Whatever.
	All the things that men care about.
	Yeah, men prefer that.
	She's all the great things, you know, but I just didn't feel the vibe.
	You know, I didn't feel the vibe.
	That's never gone through my mind.
	Trust me, the vibe will be there if everything on paper is there.
	But there's something about women y'all want.
	There's something like, I don't know if it's dysfunction, no offense, where it's like, I just didn't feel the click.
	What click?
	You want him to trigger your like anxious attachment style?
	Is that what it is?
	You want him to kind of be a little, you know, a little bit of a dick?
	Is that it?
	What is it?
	What's missing?
	Nothing.
	He's too nice.
	He's too, he's great.
	He's good looking.
	Great job.
	He's so nice.
	Treats me well.
	But I just didn't feel the, I didn't feel the click.
	You want the jerk.
	You want the bad boy.
	You want the guy with a bit of edge.
	That's dysfunction.
	Just saying that.
	I don't, actually.
	Okay.
	And I've never had that.
	I've never had like, you know, a responsible man that wants goals that way.
	And I think that's my problem.
	Can I say, oh, sorry, go ahead.
	No, go ahead.
	You don't actually have to have anything in common, kind of like what you're saying, Brian, because like the longer you're together, like their hobbies become your hobbies.
	Like, I knew nothing about cars.
	Now I think I know quite a bit.
	I used to be, used to be very fit and sporty, and he's not, you know, like, but yeah, we just, you know, we gave each other the time.
	Yeah, like we gave each other a chance, and it worked out really great.
	Yeah, and on that note about a lot of women now wanting that sort of bad boy side to men, I do think that a lot of women who have been in and out of toxic relationships, you know, it's not an excuse.
	Everybody needs to take accountability for their actions.
	They are attracted to those sort of things.
	So a lot of women will confuse pressure and they will confuse the anxious attachment for what is good for them.
	I also think part of why we are having all of this problem with women and men, really everyone kind of having all these, you know, oh, I have to have this, this, this, but one, not being that themselves and embodying that themselves.
	And I just think it's a problem with social media a lot.
	I think we are kind of all up in our heads thinking, oh, like, I can get this, I can get this.
	The reality of that is so small.
	It's really small.
	And also, if they were to exist, everything that you have on your paper, very likely they wouldn't.
	We see so many things that we think we want because it looks perfect and something that we want, even though usually it's not that.
	Sure.
	Papa Penguin is being a massive cuck, so I'll respond to him in just a moment.
	But first, Pasty gets priority.
	Pasty George donated $200.
	I do not agree with Papa Penguin's comment that whatever podcast is content without substance.
	I believe this podcast is essential for men, especially nowadays with today's feministic women.
	Neat hearts.
	Yo, Pacy George, I do appreciate that.
	Yeah, this idea, I don't understand, like in terms of the other media that's available out there too.
	Okay, so pretty much everything on Netflix, everything on cable TV, this idea that the conversations that are being had on this podcast are lacking in substance comparatively to the like 99% of the other media that's available.
	Like you look at the consumption.
	By the way, I like sports.
	I don't really watch much sports.
	I maybe watch the Super Bowl, maybe watch some NFL highlights.
	That's about it.
	And I don't, I'm not making a criticism of sports, but like there, it's very entertaining.
	It's fun to watch.
	It's exciting.
	That's not like in terms of intellectual depth.
	Like football, it's not, that's, it's just fun.
	It's fun entertainment.
	But like that's mass consumed media.
	This idea that media necessarily has to have some depth.
	I don't, I reject the premise, Penguin, but then I would also reject that the show doesn't have depth.
	The show has massive depth.
	We get into like the most pressing issues, big labia matter, of our time.
	We get into the most pressing issues.
	We talk, you know, mostly it's about dating, but we get into politics and this other stuff.
	Since you're being a little whiny brat though, Papa Penguin, Felicity, read these for me.
	We're seeing a complete generation of young men and women walking away from each other.
	Birth rates are crashing.
	You're feeding that hate.
	That isn't good for anything that resembles rational thought.
	Hold on, dude.
	No offense, Penguin.
	You're mods.
	You don't have to ban him, but he's just retarded.
	Penguin.
	Penguin.
	You think birth rates were straight line, and then whatever podcast comes out in 2022, and then the birth rates were crashing.
	No fucking retard.
	Birth rates have been crashing.
	I don't know how old you are.
	Probably before you were, I don't know, where you before you might have even been born.
	Birthrights have been on the decline for a very, very long time.
	Trust me, it has nothing to, if anything, this podcast, the sort of narratives I'm propagating have the opposite effect.
	I'm in favor of the nuclear family.
	I'm in favor of people having kids.
	I'm a bit anti-marriage, but I don't believe in promiscuity and men or women.
	I think that you should find somebody.
	You should have kids with them.
	I have some criticisms of marriage under the state, which it is in the West.
	It's not really under religion.
	Marriage is typically a function of the state.
	But I'm in favor of that.
	Have kids.
	Get married.
	Well, if you want, get married.
	Or don't get married, actually.
	Well, whatever.
	I don't know.
	I need to figure out my position on that.
	But at least find somebody and have that person be your person and have kids with them.
	And I agree with all of that.
	But in his defense, what he's saying is you're exposing women like you're you're and I like this show.
	I do watch it.
	It is entertaining.
	All right, defends.
	But you are exposing women for, like, I've watched so many girls on here that I just sat at home and was like, wow, what a dumb, you know, and like, what a 304 or whatever.
	Sure, and I, it breeds like almost hatred of women.
	Whoa, that's on you.
	Hold on.
	Are you a fucking misogynist?
	Holy shit.
	I slightly am.
	I've been anti-feminist for the last decade.
	And I am slightly misogynistic.
	Two other women, they seem to think that only because I'll explain to you.
	Hold on.
	I'll explain to you a lot.
	Land the plane.
	Land the plane.
	I'll explain to you.
	Land the plane.
	Land the plane.
	I, um, well, I've, I've just grown up with not the best females in my life.
	So I've like been kind of raised by my father.
	And I've realized that men in general are, I don't want to say like dominant, but they're they're the stronger, smarter, faster.
	They've invented most inventions in this world.
	We're not equal.
	We're not the same.
	And I'm not saying that women shouldn't have rights.
	I'm not, I'm not like going, you know, but I am slightly, I mean, women think I'm misogynistic.
	They do.
	Well, okay, hold on.
	Holy shit, there's a lot there.
	God damn.
	Let me know.
	I didn't mean to like throw out a bomb.
	You're more radical than I am because I refuse to take on the moniker or label of misogynist.
	If somebody calls me a misogynist, I wholeheartedly reject the categorization.
	You embrace the category.
	You just admitted you're a fucking misogynist.
	You're more radical than I am.
	I'm not a misogynist.
	I don't, I can sit here and say I categorically do not hate women.
	I think women are great.
	There are specific women I might disagree with on, but that's more radical of a position than I take.
	Furthermore, being anti-feminist doesn't mean you're anti-woman.
	Oh no, I know.
	So I don't know where the conflation is there.
	Hold on, let me finish my response.
	And then, and then, hold on.
	This idea that I am propagating, that I'm exposing these women who come on the show and are given a microphone.
	That's if somebody, I'm not responsible for the words that come out of somebody else's mouth.
	I'm a man.
	I'm responsible for what I say.
	I'm an adult.
	Whatever I say, I'm responsible for.
	If a woman comes on the show and is happy that Charlie Kirk was unalive or says some retarded shit or I don't know, whatever the stupid shit that people say on the show.
	By the way, I've said stupid shit on the show.
	Andrew Wilson, who's a frequent guest, he's probably said.
	We've all said, everybody says stupid shit.
	I've been clipped.
	I've said dumb shit, whatever.
	I'm not responsible for what other people say on the show.
	And if other people come on the show, be them myself, men, women, whatever, and they say stupid things and they expose themselves, I'm not exposing them.
	They're exposing themselves.
	So I'm not going to do this thing where he makes them look stupid.
	No, if you come on the show, there's a microphone here.
	I'm not forcing the words to come out of your mouth.
	But it's a platform for it.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Well, then the world is a platform for people to say stupid things.
	The internet's a platform for the, should we blame the internet then?
	No, it isn't.
	Maybe we should.
	Again, I was not blaming you.
	I was just saying that this podcast does propagate a sort of hatred.
	Oh, then I reject the premise.
	In order for that to be the case, I myself would have to distribute commentary and words that would incentivize or influence people to hate women.
	And I, again, very, I'll disavow that very quickly.
	I don't hate women.
	I don't think you do.
	Women are great.
	Misogyny is wrong.
	But yeah, so I don't really understand the criticism.
	I don't think you hate women, but you have talked down to them.
	You have barked at them or treated them a certain way because they're, you know, talking a little slow or you've called them out on things when they were caught off guard.
	And, you know, and let me respond.
	Hold on, one thing at a time, and then you can gish gallop the rat, I guess.
	So, so, hold on.
	Repeat the first part of your criticism there.
	I talked down to women.
	Was that the first part?
	You've done it.
	Okay.
	I also have talked down to men.
	Okay.
	I guess, but I don't understand.
	So talking down to, I don't know if I even want to.
	Yeah, sometimes I can disagree with somebody, but disagreeing with women is not misogyny.
	And if I do so in a rhetorically flourishing sort of, flourishing, flourished, rhetorical flourish sort of way, and I have a tone to it, that wouldn't be misogynistic.
	Disagreeing with women is not misogynistic.
	No, I understand that.
	believe me yeah but sure i'll go ahead and your tone and your demeanor towards some certain woman on the show or i've seen I've seen it.
	I agree.
	Yes.
	But I just.
	I'm not even going to argue.
	I won't, hold on.
	I won't even argue with you.
	I've absolutely done it.
	I've absolutely had a bad tone with people.
	I've absolutely probably, you know, had an attitude with somebody, had a tone with somebody.
	So what does that have to do with misogyny?
	I'm not called a misogynist because I am anti-feminist.
	Because I've been an anti-feminist for the longest time.
	have not you know been so favored by the female population yeah but i i don't think that they've called me misogynistic if If you have 300 episodes of a five, six, seven, eight, nine-hour podcast, there are bound to be moments, especially with people who have ideological disagreements with you.
	There are bound to be moments that can be found where people have a harsh tone or say words that are rude or aggressive or whatever.
	This wouldn't point towards you could you could make a compilation that could last an hour probably if you wanted to.
	That wouldn't point towards evidence of misogyny.
	That would point towards there are specific disagreements with specific people.
	I'm not going to dispute your claim that I've had bad tones in the past or I've said mean things.
	Won't even dispute it.
	But that wouldn't, just because you disagree with a woman, that doesn't point to sexism or misogyny.
	Okay.
	Is that your argument, though?
	I'm trying to understand your argument.
	I didn't call you a misogynist.
	But so you just wanted to point out that there have been times where.
	Well, no.
	Okay.
	I pointed that out because my statement was that this show exposes females at their like some of the worst things that they have to say.
	And it makes men think, wow, girls are, you know, bad or whatever.
	And if you're inviting on like not just average people, whoever, if you're not inviting on like the best and brightest, like when Candace Owens was on here, that makes women look really, really good.
	She makes women seem no, she made the you think I'm mean.
	Candace Owens eviscerated the girls on that panel.
	If I bring on a badass woman, I know, she like Rachel Wilson, for example, they'll make the woman look worse than I do.
	I know.
	So this is that's the population.
	What I'm saying is like if there was a population of people who were more like her, we have a good panel.
	No, no, I'm not sure.
	Oh, hey, the girls here should be protesting.
	The women here should be protesting what you're saying.
	You're calling these women stupid.
	You're calling the women.
	I get your point.
	I totally get that point.
	But I see it the other way around because when I see a dumb girl opening her mouth here, a bunch of them, the feeling I get is not like I hate women or that there's, god damn, there's a lot of stupid people.
	But mostly I get the feeling like, god damn, I'm a freaking catch compared to that.
	So it's more like, oh, I don't see it as spreading hatred because if you see a person, a girl, that is like really dumb the next time you meet somebody who's not that dumb, you're kind of grateful for it.
	But imagine being a man watching this.
	And you're not, you don't know these girls, but you keep seeing different ones on every week.
	And there's always, you know, but then you go on a date and you have a girl that is not that crazy or not that dumb.
	You should be like, okay.
	Well, women come on the show super unprepared.
	Like they'll say, I've never even heard of this or I've never watched it.
	No, no, no.
	No, I'm saying they come unprepared, and that is stupid.
	That is not smart.
	Well, that's hold on.
	Hold on.
	The vast majority of women who come on this show, we do some outreach, but also a lot of people reach out to us.
	The majority of the guests who do come on, the majority, they've reached out to us.
	Many of these women have had weeks, months, sometimes longer.
	Like they reach out.
	I don't know if anybody here some people have maybe at this table reached out a couple weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago.
	People have time to do the preparation.
	You're right, though.
	If they come unprepared, that's on them.
	That's how the full live streams are available.
	There's clips everywhere.
	You can see, you can see, get a feel for the show.
	I don't know.
	You said that you don't care about the sense of humor and stuff, but how does it make you feel to watch the show and see a lot of dumb girls over and over again?
	Hold on, I reject that the women who come, we do get some dumb women on the show, but this idea that we're specifically selecting...
	No, I didn't meant that.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	But, I mean, we, I would even argue, like, for example, I'm a college dropout.
	So, this idea that, oh, Brian, you're some intellectual tight end who's punching down on these retarded fucking elementary school dropouts.
	No, most of the women who come on the show are more college educated than I am.
	You know, I'm not like again, I'm not an intellectual tight end.
	I used to do like prank videos on YouTube.
	I walked around in a penis costume.
	This isn't like peak, peak, like highbrow intellectual.
	Like, I'm not, yeah, I'm not like a fucking intellectual tight end.
	So, these women who come on, it's fair, fair game, I think.
	But, which feeling do you get?
	The feeling I had that when you meet a great girl and you've seen a lot of dumb girls, you're like, This one is a good one, and you're thankful of it.
	Or is it the more dumb girls you see?
	Does it make you think like oh, there's not gonna be a good girl there?
	Or are you is it going to spread hatred?
	No, no, no, hold on.
	Um, because I think both what if a girl is dumb or if a girl is smart, both of them have the capacity to make for interesting conversation, albeit perhaps in different ways.
	So, this idea that oh man, it's a panel of smart women, shoot this panel.
	No, that's never the case.
	Oftentimes, I think the smart women are the ones who are best capable of having like a uh like a well-put together thought and conversation.
	So, this idea that I'm like kind of bummed out if it's a panel of smart women.
	But putting it into dating, huh?
	But putting it into dating, like, uh, does it make you feel hatred towards women when you're looking for a date to think that there's no good women in there, or is it more like you're gonna be grateful that you find found a good one after seeing?
	I understand your question.
	You're asking, like, how has it influenced my perspective on dating?
	My, yeah, sure.
	So, I mean, obviously, our experiences in life, our experiences in life, are going to color our interpretations and perspectives.
	So, has my perspective been colored been colored by the guests I've had on?
	Sure, absolutely.
	I've learned a lot.
	And that, you know, some of the conversations surrounding, you know, some the way that women move.
	Although I, you know, I'm 36, I started the podcast when I was 33, 34.
	I've had, I've had robust dating experience even before I started the show.
	And trust me, just from my own dating experiences before talking to women on the show, I had very strong opinions before the show as it relates to dating.
	I've been through, I've done dealt with a BPD girl.
	I've done dealt with a bipolar girl.
	I've done dealt with girls who are not moving properly when it comes to dating, even before I had the show.
	So, trust me, this idea that the show has like warped me in.
	No, I've been, I've been red-pilled, as you can say, before the podcast.
	Trust me.
	Now, of course, there's been conversations on the show, like, I don't know, some of the like some of the sugar daddy shit.
	I wasn't as tuned into like some of the stuff that women do when it comes to like sugar daddies and fucking feet pics and being degens, all that shit.
	I wasn't as privy to some of that stuff, but uh, yeah, I mean, I so it hasn't pushed you into any direction in somehow, uh, honestly.
	I would say that um part maybe the biggest red pill for me is not the conversations on the show, but women's conduct after the show.
	So, I one of the things one of the examples is uh women's propensity to like flake or no-show.
	For example, we had uh, you know, it's great to have Felicity here, but this chair today shouldn't have gone to Felicity.
	We had a girl no-show today, like, didn't even, hey, I'm not coming, blah, blah, blah.
	Nope, just no show, nothing at all.
	We get a lot of flakes and like people who just cancel last minute, but they every single show we have to plan for we overbook intentionally That kind of has frustrated me a little bit just kind of the lack of accountability on on that front but um and then just some like It's not the majority of women,
	but some women have done some like really despicable things Like after the show like to try to I don't know just bullshit stupid shit.
	I'm trying to think of some examples here Like, you know, we've had some women who've come on the show and they basically want to like They have like a blood vendetta and want to like ruin my reputation ruin my frequent guest Andrew Wilson's reputation.
	They want to like go and just try to fuck us over in various ways that I'm not gonna get into here.
	Yeah, we've had like tons of women just be like conniving, vicious, vengeful, vindictive.
	I won't say it, but yeah, we've had some like really terrible, like malevolent women not on the show.
	Well, I mean, well, they came on the show, but then afterwards, they're like fucking ops, opposition.
	So I'm a spy.
	I'm actually on Only Advance.
	So Felicity, not really.
	Papa Penguin.
	Oh, hold on.
	There's this one, Reductio.
	I don't even know what it was, but okay.
	There's that.
	And then Felicity, read this one, I guess.
	Okay, I'm bored and have bourbon.
	I thought I was going to get a response.
	The women on this show have the intellectual depth of a puddle, but refusing to respond when you said you would, I paid.
	Shut up, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	You're such a fucking what?
	You've gotten more attention than almost any super chatter has ever fucking gotten.
	Oh my God, this guy is ridiculous.
	Yeah, you got to be patient there, Papa Penguin.
	In any case, I think I thoroughly responded to you.
	You got actually very lucky here.
	You should do a champion.
	I don't know if he's still in the chat.
	You should honestly do a champagne pop for all the attention you fucking got.
	And by the way, this idea, hold on.
	It's interesting.
	On one hand, Papa Penguin, you say there's this divide between men and women and the show is contributing to it.
	But then in the same breath, you say the women on this show have the intellectual depth of a puddle.
	I actually think that this is very insulting to perhaps the women on this panel, or I don't know if you're talking in general, like the other women we've had on the show.
	We've had plenty of very capable, smart women.
	We've had, there's many times where sometimes I'm on the back foot conversationally or in the debates with the women.
	So this idea of we don't bring on smart women, ridiculous.
	Here's an open invitation.
	We have an open invitation for any women.
	In fact, we have a lot of instances where we had a recent thing.
	I wonder if we can pull it up in the Discord.
	We'll get, I'll have women.
	Yeah, yeah, we're going to pull this up.
	So it's going to be, you're going to have to scroll up.
	It's in the hate mail folder.
	But women will be like, oh, you only bring on stupid women.
	You should bring on a smart woman like me.
	And blah, and then they'll usually like save inflammatory shit, like your podcast sucks, whatever.
	And I never insult back.
	I just always say, when can you make it on?
	When can you come on the show?
	I'm never, I'll never, even if they say they say insulting things, I never insult back.
	Hold on, I'm trying to find it.
	Nick, are you on the hate mail tab?
	Okay, so it is okay.
	So, Nick, it is 10.
	You're gonna scroll to October 24.
	Okay.
	So, it is, you're gonna see the first one under 10.
	Oh, shit.
	There's a Spider-Man Jose.
	It's not that one, but it's the one below it.
	I'll show you guys what I'm talking about.
	Are you at 1024 hate mail?
	Yeah, there's a lot of 1024s.
	Well, it's it's the it's below the one with the Spider-Man, Jose.
	1024-428.
	It's the one below it.
	All right, guys, if you're enjoying this, do you have it?
	Okay, pull it up from Jewel.
	No, no, no, no, the next one, the next one.
	All right, Felicity, you read the girl part.
	It's really small.
	Pop it out, Nick.
	Yeah, okay, here.
	While you do that, you can open it in a new tab so that it is bigger.
	Do you have it?
	Ah, fuck.
	Hide StreamYard.
	Hide StreamYard.
	Okay, here.
	In OBS.
	Huh?
	No, hold on.
	Here, hide StreamYard in OBS.
	Hide.
	Minimize this.
	F11.
	F11.
	Out of it.
	Out of it.
	Scoot it over.
	Over.
	Just put it.
	Put it.
	Wait, is it over?
	Yeah.
	Like, put it on the, do you have it?
	What?
	What's going on?
	Wait, you got it.
	StreamYard needs to be F11.
	Okay.
	Go ahead, read it.
	This is the same size that it was before.
	Okay.
	I just want you to know that.
	I just want you to know I think you're a small-minded cuck of a man, and I would absolutely demolish you in any debate.
	The way you view women is hilariously outdated.
	The way you talk to women is disrespectful as fuck.
	And the entire idea that your platform is predicated on the bait on is baseless women hating red-pilled nonsense.
	Okay, and then I respond: great, let's do it.
	Can you come Sunday, November 9th?
	You view women who embrace their sexuality as trash pieces and you openly disrespect them.
	And honestly, my intellect is much more vast, expansive, and well-informed than yours.
	This would not be a fair debate for you.
	Scroll down.
	I'm fine with it not being fair for me.
	When can you do the debate you issued the challenge for?
	So you agree that your negative and degrading opinions and ways of viewing and treating women is baseless and absurd then?
	I'll think about it.
	I disagree.
	You issued a debate challenge.
	I'm accepting.
	Are you backing out?
	If it's worth my time, didn't expect you to be so eager to be wrong.
	And then, again, I'm just ignoring her sort of some of the attacks or whatever.
	It was worth your time, blah, blah, blah.
	Shall we get this on schedule?
	And then she didn't respond.
	And I just, are you running from your own debate challenge?
	So, look, ultimately, relating this back to, you know, me not having intellectual women on.
	I have, I get DMs like that every single day where women say, oh, if you had me on the show, I would school you.
	I don't insult them back.
	I'm just saying, cool, let's do it.
	Let's schedule it every single time.
	I'm not exaggerating.
	They run.
	They won't do it.
	They're fucking cowards.
	Every single, so this idea, like, oh, bring on intelligent women, I'll bring on anybody.
	I will bring on any woman.
	You can't, I don't care if you're fucking from Harvard.
	I don't care if you dropped out of elementary school.
	You want to be on the show?
	Come on the show.
	I don't care.
	I love it.
	I don't care.
	All these people are not, you know, their main source of income is not OnlyFans.
	And yeah, there's not one single OnlyFans girl here.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	I thought it was strictly OnlyFans for a while.
	When I first started seeing clips of this on YouTube, I thought it was like, oh, this guy just interviews OnlyFans chicks.
	I mean, it's an unfortunate, I guess, stereotype that won't go away because admittedly, we have had OnlyFans girls on the show.
	Perhaps some of our viral clips have featured OnlyFans girls, although many of our viral clips, it's just a regular girl.
	But if you do a breakdown of all our guests, it's something like 15% of our guests total are OF.
	One, five, 15.
	One, five.
	Only 15.
	So that means, look, some panels there's more, some there's less, some there's none.
	But one, five, if the would work out to on average a panel like this, one or two of the girls do OF, the rest don't, on average.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But it's an unfortunate trope that continues to be, excuse me, repeated.
	Yo, Mads, thank you for the gifted 10, appreciate it.
	Yeah, it's just kind of like this thing, I guess I can't escape.
	Oh, you just bring on young, stupid girls or young girls, yeah.
	But like if you, I mean, we have three women above the age of 30, 36, 31, 35, 35.
	We do have like a 19-year-old, 18-year-old, 27-year-old.
	I mean, 32, thank you.
	Don't age me.
	Oh, what did I say?
	35.
	Oh, sorry.
	A couple times.
	Yeah, I missed.
	I guess I wrote that down wrong.
	We have four girls over the age of 30.
	Yeah, 36, 31, 32, 35.
	So I don't know.
	They're like, oh, you only bring on young girls.
	No, I mean, actually, the average age is closer to 25, 26.
	You only bring on OnlyFans girls.
	Well, no, actually, the majority of our guests don't do OnlyFans.
	So I don't know.
	A lot of fake news circulating, I guess, about the show.
	But I'm trying to remember where we were on this.
	I don't know.
	You brought it up, I guess.
	Or sort of.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	But Felicity, would you agree that 15% of the females on this podcast have been OnlyFans?
	Or would you think that it would be higher?
	I would say, yeah, like less than a quarter.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Why would I'm just curious?
	We keep stats.
	We keep data.
	Yes, we keep stats.
	Do you think I'm lying to you?
	Why would you need to defer to Felicity?
	I was just curious.
	She's only been here since episode like, what, 200 something up?
	Okay.
	She's missed.
	I was just curious.
	Yeah, but what?
	I don't know.
	She's here all the time.
	I mean, in the clips that I've seen.
	I don't, yeah, but I don't know.
	So you think I'm lying?
	Well, I just wasn't sure that you had the actual exact number of 15%.
	The host, the owner of the podcast, has less accurate data than Felicity.
	That's really okay, just understanding.
	Just making sure we're on the same page there.
	By the way, that's not an attack on Felicity.
	I think she's just asking for another opinion.
	Yeah, I was just thinking that.
	No, no, no, it's not an opinion.
	It's not just an opinion.
	I didn't know you had the data in your head from the exact number.
	It's observable.
	Okay.
	The girls who are on the show say whether or not they do OnlyFans.
	And you keep track of every single thing.
	Okay.
	Well, so as of episode, I believe it was sort of stopped tracking after episode 200 formally.
	But we did tracking up to episode 200.
	And if anything, there was a period there from, I'd say, episode 40 to episode 200 where that in that area was probably when we had a bit leaning a bit more towards OnlyFans creators.
	I would argue in the past year or so, we've had less frequent appearances from OnlyFans girls.
	Okay.
	So if anything, the data that I have from episode one to episode 200, or episode 267, I think.
	Or is it 266?
	I don't know, whatever.
	It's probably lower.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	I thought OF maybe was giving you kickbacks.
	Like, hey, take on a few girls.
	What the fuck?
	No.
	No, we've never received a kickback from OnlyFans.
	That'd be ridiculous.
	You never know.
	Okay, I don't know.
	Are you getting fucking kickbacks from, I don't know, fucking George Soros for saying stupid shit on the podcast?
	I don't fucking know.
	But we've never received a kickback from any individual OnlyFans girls.
	We've never received a kickback from a management company.
	None of that shit.
	Okay.
	You think there's a fucking whatever conspiracy to what the fuck?
	Brother, what other conspiracy?
	Was 9-11?
	Was that an inside job?
	What else do you want to fucking talk about?
	She actually does think 9-11 wasn't.
	I guess she wants to talk about that.
	I mean, I don't want to talk about that.
	Does JetFuel doesn't melt steel beams?
	I don't know.
	Planned demolition?
	There might have been an explosion while one of them was burned.
	I don't know.
	Are you a flat earther too?
	Do you want to talk about that?
	Not a flat earther?
	Okay, well.
	All right.
	I know.
	I know.
	We'll get to it.
	Sorry for the delay, man.
	Ryan's getting heated made me heated.
	I make a really solid six-figure income.
	I'm pretty good looking.
	I come from a great family.
	I don't want to fucking have to prove some ambiguous ambition to you.
	I believe that's for you, Sabrina.
	Maybe.
	I don't cha.
	Was that directed to her?
	I'm not sure.
	Sorry for the delays on these guys.
	I was engaged in responding to Pussy Penguin.
	Hasty George donated $200.
	Careful, in my honest opinion, the whatever podcast exposes the misandry and sexism that many women have towards men due to feminism.
	It also reveals their promiscuity because of feminism.
	What was that guy?
	Thank you, Pacey George.
	What was he saying about the declining birth rates?
	What the fuck would that have to do?
	He said you were putting men and women against each other and feeding hate.
	Yeah.
	You're feeding that hatred.
	You yourself have stopped the babies from coming.
	Nick, I'm going to send you something in the private chat here.
	I actually posted about the, you know, I brought up feminism.
	Feminism is very anti-natalist, anti-family, anti-children.
	One sec.
	I'm going to try to.
	So there was this famous feminist.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to send it right now.
	Famous feminist who, hold on.
	She wrote a very, like a, well, I'll just read the tweet.
	But she wrote like a major piece of, I guess, classical feminist literature, you could say.
	Her name is Kate Millette.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	She was an American feminist whose, you could probably make us bigger, whose 1970 book, Sexual Politics, is regarded as a classic feminism.
	She was involved in early days of the, this is the biggest women's organization, even currently in the United States, National Organization for Women.
	She has quoted, the complete destruction of traditional marriage and the nuclear family is the revolutionary or utopian goal of feminism.
	And she participated in feminist groups where the destruction of the American family was explicitly discussed.
	It's not fringe feminism, it's mainstream feminism.
	And Nick, if you scroll down a bit, the first photo, don't do it on stream, but the first photo after that is some of the remarks that are attributed towards her.
	You're going to click on the photo.
	I think just in, just click, it should be fun.
	Okay, so this is what she's quoted as saying.
	Why are, oh wait, I need somebody to, I'm just going to have one of the women read this.
	Any takers?
	I'll do it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Pink hair makes sense.
	Why are we here today?
	The chairman, chairwoman asked, to make revolution, they answered.
	What kind of revolution? She replied.
	The cultural revolution, they chanted.
	And how do we make cultural revolution? She demanded.
	Sorry, it's a little hard to see.
	By destroying the American family, they answered.
	How do we destroy the American family?
	She came back.
	By destroying the American patriarch, they cried exuberantly.
	I can't say that, I'm sorry.
	And how do we destroy the American patriarch?
	She probed.
	By taking away his power.
	How do we do that?
	By destroying monogamy, they shouted.
	How can we destroy monogamy?
	By pretending, probably promoting, sorry, promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution, abortion, and homosexuality.
	Right?
	Hypersexual.
	No, is that homosexuality?
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	So this idea, by the way, that's from 1969.
	It's kind of crazy.
	That's decades before I was born.
	Anybody else at this table is born.
	This idea that a few podcasts, like male podcasts that get, you know, comparable viewership to myself, a couple thousand concurrent viewers, is having the impact on the birth rates and the dissolution of the family structure in the United States.
	This has been the gen, that was the genesis of feminism since very early on.
	1969.
	This is the feminism that's taught in university.
	She's written books.
	Her book, Sexual Politics, is a classic of feminist thought.
	So I don't know how you can look at my podcast where I'm in favor of having children and having a family and then say that this is like I'm to blame for the divide.
	The divide pre-exists my life.
	And it's been created by feminists like Kate Millette.
	I don't know if I'm saying her name right.
	Kate Millette, the feminist movement, very detrimental.
	And I don't know, it's an interesting thing to try to blame on me when there's bigger powers, primarily feminism in society, that you should really be pointing the finger to.
	I don't know.
	I've decided since I've met you here tonight, I will never have another child.
	She's joking.
	I don't think that he was blaming you.
	I think he was just, you know, making statements, and it sounded like he was blaming you in that.
	He clearly was.
	No, no, no.
	Reread it.
	He wasn't blaming you.
	He was just saying all of this is happening.
	And like, I'm sitting here watching this podcast.
	It wasn't like he's like, Brian, this is your fault.
	You're like, he was just saying that, like, this does perpetuate, but it's not your fault that these other things are happening.
	He said he was speeding me.
	Yep.
	Beating hate.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, he didn't blame you for the.
	I mean, he did, but I'm not going to have a meta-conversation about that when we have chats coming through.
	Dark Omen42 donated $200.
	We all deal with women in real life.
	We see most our massive flakes.
	We know how crappy most single women are.
	If anything, Brian gives hope because he has decent ones on them.
	Yo, Dark Omen, thank you for the TTS, man.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you, thank you.
	And then we have, let's see, Pasty George here.
	Dark Omen, I do appreciate that.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, George.
	Pasty George, don't know what to do.
	You're not doing the things.
	You're not doing the things.
	Therefore, so basically, you are tone policing, Brian, for simply questioning women's entitlement and egotistical mentality as well as feminist ideologies.
	Can you try moving that thing?
	What the f bro?
	No, don't worry about it.
	It's fine.
	I don't know.
	It's weird.
	Do you want to respond?
	He was saying that I was criticizing your tone policing, I guess.
	Okay.
	Yeah, do you want to respond?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	George, she doesn't want to respond, I guess.
	All right.
	I don't know where we were.
	Talk about something fun, like sex.
	We've heard her.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Status, right?
	Hold on, hold on.
	We were just trying to finish off this conversation about high expectations.
	Still on me.
	Oh, my.
	I didn't know.
	Well, I think, look, I think it warrants.
	It's an interesting convo to have because you say you're very single.
	You want to get married.
	You want to have kids.
	You say you have high expectations.
	Is it ever the case that sometimes somebody can have expectations that are too high?
	And should they be adjusted to be more commensurate with what they could reasonably hope to achieve in terms of the quality of partner that their prospects would be indicative of?
	What do you mean exactly?
	Well, okay.
	Yeah.
	You say simply, I have high expectations.
	And then, I guess, do the guys that you want want you?
	Oh, um, for the most part, but then it just kind of ends.
	Like, the last two relationships, they both said the same reason that I was deserving of more time than they could give me.
	So, obviously, yeah, I'm gonna blame myself.
	Well, you know, I didn't believe that.
	No, no, I don't think I'm needy.
	I think I do try quite hard to find like a balance of whoever I'm with.
	And, you know, like I'll obviously, I'm open to adjusting whatever bad habits I have or, you know, whatever.
	So obviously I think like, what could I do better?
	So, yeah.
	I mean, it's kind of like when somebody's breaking up with you and they're a lot of times when somebody's breaking up with you, if they're trying to be polite or to protect your feelings, they're going to say something like, hey, I'm just so, you know, I'm trying to focus on my career.
	It's not you, it's me.
	They're usually not always being perfectly upfront or forthcoming about, you know.
	I definitely didn't believe them.
	I knew it had to have been something else.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So I agree with that.
	I guess ultimately, though, I don't know.
	And then, you know, the thing about, you know, body type or whatever, you don't want a guy who's bigger, whatever.
	Just trying to get a feel for the high expectations here.
	Because my perspective is this.
	I think everybody wants to get the best that they can get.
	That's human nature.
	Yeah.
	If we can get the best, you know, the best possible option, we want the best.
	But whether you can get that is another question.
	And so it's like, I guess my perspective is average people should want average people.
	Or I mean, being realistic.
	Like, yeah, okay, you're a 35-year-old.
	I'm not talking, you're a 35-year-old male who lives in Idaho and you live in your mom's basement and you're overweight.
	You do drugs.
	You play video games all day.
	You don't have a job.
	I don't think you're going to be dating Sidney Sweeney anytime soon.
	I don't think you're going to be dating a Victoria Seeker model anytime soon.
	Why is that?
	Well, maybe you could date the ex-meth addict who works at Walmart and who's got a couple tattoos and maybe is a single mom if that's your position.
	You should probably date in your league and so it's like great So like I'm an independent woman.
	I go to work every day.
	I go to school every day.
	I have a dog.
	I, you know, have my apartment.
	Yeah.
	I make my way.
	So why wouldn't I want someone with those same expectations?
	Well, I think that's all fun.
	And it's also funny, you know?
	Well, she wants kids in marriage and like that's nice too.
	Yeah, maybe marriage down the line, but definitely I know my age.
	I know my body type, obviously.
	So I'm not, you know, realist.
	All right.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been single for 18 years straight.
	All right.
	Any boyfriend or anything like that?
	Nope, never.
	Longest period of time you dated a guy?
	Never dated a guy.
	Never dated a guy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you're Christian, correct?
	Yes.
	What denomination?
	Baptist.
	Baptist.
	Okay.
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so you are a virgin?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's where it can be done.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah, very, very encouraging.
	And let me see here.
	Okay.
	i have to wait until she's back here before i i need to step away momentarily but why don't i just do this we have hold on Hold on, look in my notes here.
	I guess going to you, Laura.
	So, the origination of you coming on the show, you had DM'd my personal, and you said you were disappointed that my comments on my Instagram were turned off.
	And you, I don't know if you're being catty or just whatever.
	You were like, I thought you welcome to open disgarth.
	Yeah, uh, people that turn off their comments are pussies, exactly.
	See?
	You thought it half of us might have thought that?
	Yeah, I just want to get the context for your angle there.
	Like, so what was the you went to my personal Instagram page.
	You, I'm assuming, like, did you have an intention of wanting to leave like a comment on one of my posts that you disagreed on?
	I'm, I might have.
	Yeah, I'm not sure.
	I don't recall that exact thing.
	It was slightly insignificant, but then when you told me to come on the podcast, I was like, I'll go.
	I'll go.
	I enjoy the clips.
	Sure.
	So, yeah, I mean, I guess I could just address this briefly.
	Context for viewers, my YouTube comments, wide open.
	YouTube live chat, fully open.
	You have to be a subscriber, but that's free for anybody.
	And there's like a 10-minute waiting period.
	That's not, that's mostly just to prevent spam.
	We don't want like people coming in and spamming links and bots and this sort of shit.
	YouTube live chat, fully open.
	YouTube comments wide open.
	Twitch chat, fully open.
	X replies fully open.
	TikTok comments, fully open.
	Facebook comments, fully open.
	Instagram reels, fully open.
	Instagram posts, though, Instagram posts, uniquely, I don't allow comments on my Instagram posts.
	But all the reels, if you go, you look over on the reels, totally open.
	You can leave comments on those.
	And I do it because I don't want to buy, because Instagram posts are like, I don't really post much.
	Well, I post a lot of reels on Instagram, but I don't do posts.
	Maybe some of you understand the distinction between a post versus a reel.
	I don't want to bother moderating on Instagram because I just don't give a Instagram's like a deprioritized platform for me mostly.
	Although I've started posting reels on there.
	I don't want to, I was getting doxxed and shit on there.
	So yeah, I turn off the Instagram post comments because I don't want to bother moderating it.
	All those other platforms, completely open.
	Okay, good to know.
	Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, open.
	I'm not on any of those other platforms except YouTube.
	And I actually, I think I was introduced to you via Instagram.
	I feel like somebody might have sent me one of your clips.
	I saw your Instagram before I saw the whatever Instagram and I thought that that was your only one.
	So that's why I sent you that message all those months ago.
	But you thought it was like you had an issue because my comments were turned off.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I just sent you a DM.
	Yeah, I sometimes get this criticism, especially oftentimes it's from people who have anonymous or private accounts, which I kind of find somewhat ironic.
	Like, oh, why are your comments on Instagram turned off, you pussy, but it's like a private, anonymous, like it's not their name.
	So I'm like, hold on.
	My full name is out there and I'm saying the shit I'm saying.
	Your Instagram profile is private.
	I think that's having a private.
	I don't, by the way, I don't have an issue with people that have private Instagrams, but if you're going to criticize me and be like, oh, why is your Instagram comments off, pussy?
	But your Instagram's private, I'm like, you fucking hypocrite.
	Like, okay.
	But I don't know if your Instagram is private or not.
	I don't know.
	But you add a criticism there.
	So, do you have criticisms of the show beyond just what we've already talked about?
	Oh, okay.
	But I mean, you left or you sent me a message.
	You're disappointed that my Instagram comments are turned off.
	You say you thought that I welcomed open discourse.
	Do you think I don't welcome open discourse?
	I think you do.
	Into the microphone, please.
	I'm sorry.
	You do.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	You do, but then there's a certain tone for your question.
	There's a certain bark back that you sometimes have.
	What does that have to do with your original statement, though?
	No, okay.
	You welcome open discourse.
	I don't know what time I sent you that or the context exactly.
	Yeah, it was definitely sometime over summer.
	Yeah.
	But yeah, we're good.
	I don't have any disagreements.
	I mean, I would actually argue, I think I do welcome open discourse perhaps more than like I'm in this show.
	By virtue of having the show and inviting on just all the people we've had on over, I think we're almost at 2,000 guests.
	Probably more than just about anyone else in the world.
	I'll invite people on who disagree with me.
	Oh, you just, I, in fact, I want them on more than the people who agree with me.
	If you disagree, you get priority.
	You definitely get to come on the show if you disagree with me.
	And you don't even have to be a somebody.
	You can have 100 followers on Instagram.
	Don't care.
	I'm not like some clout demon.
	No, only I only want to invite people with 100,000 followers.
	Don't care.
	You can be have 100 followers on Instagram from fucking Nebraska.
	Don't give a shit.
	Anybody.
	I think that's open discourse.
	I just don't want people to dox me in my fucking Instagram comments.
	Okay.
	That's extremely understandable, yeah.
	And also it's like, I think that people confuse justifiable moderation decisions.
	Oh, you're anti-free speech.
	No, it's like you can moderate things and still be in favor of free speech.
	And these things are not in contradiction of each other.
	Like, I don't want people like in my chat, like, dropping the end bomb.
	I don't want people to fucking do it, chat, like, right now.
	They're probably tempted to.
	I think it's within my purview of like curating a channel that, one, isn't going to get like fucking canceled because it's TOS for me to say, tell my moderators in chat, hey, if people are like dropping severe racial slurs, you should ban them.
	Yeah.
	Like we should have, I'm okay with some edgy stuff, whatever.
	But if you're just dropping racial slurs in the chat, ban them, please.
	Like I don't think that that's in contravention of freedom of speech.
	Like that's one, just about in order for me to actually be able to have some controversial views that I espouse, I need to play by the platform's rules.
	And part of that means curating and moderating the community so that I don't get a bullseye on me from YouTube or, you know, the fucking media matters.
	Look at his chat.
	It's just a bunch of people fucking dropping racial slurs.
	What's he cultivating here?
	No, I don't want that.
	And it doesn't benefit me.
	So I think moderation is not in contravention of freedom of speech.
	I agree.
	Just like we shouldn't be on here saying any of those things either.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	Why did you feel tempted to draw Beaumard?
	I knew you were a fucking racist.
	Just kidding.
	I never got this vibe from you, I promise.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm just messing with you.
	Let's see here.
	You also disagree about the laundry thing.
	But we're going to get to that in a moment.
	I need to step away for a few minutes.
	Felicity here has some great, great questions that she's going to ask you.
	If you can start with this one.
	do you know when i'm this one and then uh yeah i'll be actually wait Hold on.
	Let me let the chat come through while I'm here.
	And then Felicity has some questions to ask you.
	Fine gentlemen and ladies.
	A message from the government of Canada.
	Pasty George donated $200.04.
	Thank you, man.
	Chair 4.
	Due to feminism and me too, many women often speak to men how they want, even when it is in a rude, catty, and disrespectful manner and behavior.
	Why can't men do the same?
	Anybody want to respond to Pacy George?
	Anybody?
	Do they not?
	Do men not talk the way they want to to their girlfriends?
	Is that I think they do get reprimanded more for it.
	I will say that.
	But I genuinely think everyone should be able to talk about anyone that they want.
	And that's freedom of speech, you know?
	But I can see where he's coming from.
	I do know, and I'm not trying to 100% side with the men or women here, but I do know a lot of men feel, especially if they were to come up on social media and try to say something.
	And in my defense, when I have said something against women, even though I'm not with men or women necessarily, you get a lot of more backlash for it than if you were to come up on social media and just talk bad about a man.
	So, but yeah, I can see where he's coming from.
	I think everyone should be able to talk bad about, well, to some degree, but you should have freedom of speech and expression.
	Really quick before I step away, I need to thank a couple people.
	I missed these from last show.
	Yo, John, thank you for the 30 on Venmo.
	Anna, thank you for the 10.
	Troy, thank for the 10.
	And then Troy tonight, thank for the 10 man.
	Leslie, who she decided to help with some very generous patronage.
	I don't know if she's watching, but she sent $700.
	So Leslie, I don't know if you're watching.
	Thank you so much.
	You're a fucking legend.
	And I think she's maybe going to visit soon.
	So we'll see.
	Thank you so much, Leslie.
	Appreciate it very much.
	And I think we're good.
	Take it away, Felicity.
	Okay, I'm going to ask questions.
	I'm going to start with you.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Name three countries.
	Three countries?
	Yeah.
	Europe, America, Asia.
	Countries.
	Countries?
	Countries.
	Not continents.
	I'm sorry.
	Serbia, Japan, Tokyo.
	Tokyo?
	The Tokyo not?
	A country.
	Tokyo in Japan.
	Oh my gosh.
	A city in Japan.
	Sorry, I'm just blanking right now.
	Paris.
	City.
	It's not a country.
	Okay, France, yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Three countries.
	Countries, yes.
	Finland, Germany, Sweden.
	Okay.
	Also, you guys, you can't repeat.
	Name three countries?
	Morocco, Switzerland, Zimbabwe.
	Next.
	France, Italy, Japan.
	Oh, wait, I can't repeat China.
	No, she didn't say France was said, and Japan was said.
	Oh.
	No, I said Italy.
	Oh, you said Switzerland.
	Sorry.
	Mexico, Canada, and Costa Rica.
	Are you Canadian?
	No.
	I heard a sorry.
	Oh.
	Next.
	Kyrgyzstan, Egypt, and Ecuador.
	Next.
	Brazil.
	And Spain.
	And Kazakhstan.
	You don't seem very sure about those answers.
	I was nervous.
	Are you sure?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Bulgaria, Greece, and Chile.
	Okay.
	Name one continent.
	Name a continent.
	Asia.
	Okay, next.
	Continent.
	Africa.
	Okay.
	Europe.
	Next.
	Australia.
	Antarctica.
	Next.
	of them yeah I think I think there's going through all of them There's enough.
	No, I'm saying we're going through.
	Yeah, so name a continent.
	I can say something.
	You can't repeat.
	No, you already said Antarctica.
	What was that already?
	That's what I was telling you.
	It wasn't happening to me.
	I was like, wait, they just listening to them, but no.
	Okay.
	Name a continent.
	I can't think of one.
	You got this.
	There's two lines.
	Can you name all seven?
	You're on one of them.
	Sh.
	Sorry.
	That's cheating.
	No, I can't say that.
	Well, America.
	Which one?
	Well, yes, but.
	Oh, my gosh, it's so embarrassing.
	Yeah.
	There's so I guess, yeah, technically there's two Americas.
	Which one?
	Yeah.
	You got this.
	It's really embarrassing.
	Into the mic.
	I really can't think.
	As soon as she says it, you're going to be like, no, as soon as you say it, it's going to be a moment.
	What continent you live on?
	What continent are you on right now?
	Guys, don't help her.
	I know.
	I can't.
	I don't know.
	You don't know what continent you're in right now?
	No.
	Guess.
	Yes, you have to guess.
	I'm not going to skip you.
	I know.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not sorry.
	I need the crickets.
	I know.
	We need the crickets.
	It's not coming to me.
	It's so painful.
	And you have high standards, right?
	I know.
	Yeah.
	No shade.
	No shame.
	No, some shame.
	Come on.
	I know.
	You kind of.
	You have it.
	You had one of the words.
	You halfway got it.
	I kind of helped you a little bit.
	There's no.
	How old am I?
	Can I name all seven?
	You, come on.
	You're gonna.
	Okay.
	I think it's making it worse because it's just blank.
	All except ours.
	Okay, don't.
	Don't.
	Go to her and then.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	No, because then that'll get the answer.
	It's just blank.
	It's just blank.
	She's under pressure.
	She's under pressure.
	I'm under pressure and it's just blank and it's embarrassing.
	She already got a hint.
	Yeah.
	What was the hint?
	Well, I said America.
	There's two Americas.
	It was a huge hint.
	There's two Americans.
	Yeah, there's two Americas.
	I'm not going to say it.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Okay.
	That's a good enough hint.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But so she did guess that it's America.
	Yes.
	But there's.
	Right.
	There's two continents.
	Right.
	And, okay.
	And there's four directions.
	Okay, okay.
	You guys?
	North America?
	Yes.
	Guys, stop helping each other.
	We like each other.
	We're girls.
	Yeah, Western.
	That's what we do.
	Okay.
	Please, you know the answer, right?
	What is the answer to the last question?
	South America.
	Good job.
	Good job, ladies.
	Okay.
	Not me.
	Next question.
	Next question.
	What years.
	And if you know the answer, for sure, don't answer.
	Who's the history major?
	Don't answer if you know.
	What years were World War I?
	Oh, I would love to know that answer.
	I wonder if we should do that.
	Have a range?
	Like, what's the decade?
	No.
	This is easy.
	That's easy.
	Well, it's moderately easy.
	That's way too easy.
	What years were World War I?
	Was it in the 1930s?
	Before that?
	Don't ask me.
	I mean, you have to guess.
	I honestly don't know the answer.
	Honestly, I don't like it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	We're letting her.
	You guys keep talking.
	Sophia, can you like put yourself more on the corner?
	Because, yeah.
	And that's good to mic too.
	And Scooter.
	And that's good as the table.
	Okay.
	So.
	So your guess is the 1930s?
	Clearly not.
	1920s?
	Well, nobody even hinted.
	Someone did.
	Okay, guys, stop.
	Okay.
	This is trying to piss me off.
	Wait, put the camera that way.
	Okay, so your guess is 1920s.
	In that time.
	Okay, next.
	Not sure, but from 1914 to 1918.
	Okay, next.
	1914 to 1918.
	Next.
	Those are your guesses.
	I think it was 1916 to 1919.
	Okay, so no World War II.
	I'm going to say the 1910s.
	Next.
	It's 1914 to 1918.
	Next.
	Yeah, it's 1914.
	Okay, so I did say if you know it for sure, don't answer.
	Oh, wow.
	So rude.
	But I wasn't sure.
	Well, yeah, you didn't seem sure, but are you, you're the history.
	I was a high school dropout.
	Oh.
	But you knew.
	Yes, I did.
	That's my bad.
	I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	Next one.
	I'm going to get up a couple.
	What years were World War II?
	Oh, my God.
	Same thing applies.
	If you know it, don't answer.
	Oh.
	1921.
	To 1925.
	Okay, next.
	Yes, you're next.
	You're next.
	If I know.
	Huh?
	If I know.
	You said that if you know.
	Oh, okay.
	You're saying don't even know.
	Okay, and you know.
	Okay, so now.
	I know the month and the year, so no.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, you guys go speak to them.
	Okay, next.
	I plead the fifth.
	You can't plead the fifth.
	Well, I know it.
	I don't want to say it.
	Okay, next.
	1930?
	Two.
	38.
	Okay, next.
	I know it.
	Okay, the answer is 1939 to 1945.
	Yep.
	September 1st to September 2nd, I think it ended, or something like that.
	I think it was September to September.
	I don't know the exact date.
	Should I ask the questions at the bottom, Brian?
	Yeah, we could do, what is it?
	The income?
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband starting with you?
	I wrote 300K.
	Okay, should I just keep going?
	Okay, next.
	Kind of doesn't matter.
	I hope that the guy can take care of himself and then we'll figure out the rest afterwards.
	Bad.
	So just like average, like bare minimum.
	To be able to live and take care of themselves.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Next.
	I do want to make clear that when we do start dating, it doesn't matter to me what your income is.
	I think the ambition is going to show what's possible.
	But at the end, the end goal for me or the end goal or the expectation I would have for him is he does make more than me.
	Obviously, at this moment, I'm not making much as a 19-year-old, but if I want to have two to three kids, I think that at least $100K to $150K thousand.
	Sorry, $100,000 to $150,000 would be safe for the family.
	So that's what I believe.
	Next.
	I don't have a minimum income requirement to date me.
	So they can make like $10,000 a year?
	It's not possible if you're working full-time, but I don't have minimum requirements.
	They can work at McDonald's.
	I'm not looking for someone that works at McDonald's, but they can work wherever they're going to work.
	I don't have like criteria of those things at all.
	But you said, like, $10,000 a year is not acceptable.
	Well, that's not a full-time job.
	Anyway, so you live in California?
	Except China.
	Yes, I do.
	Right now.
	Southern California.
	I think the median income is like 68?
	Yeah, 60.
	So 68, would that be the answer?
	I mean, that's perfectly fine.
	They can make however...
	Their income does not make them more or less attractive.
	Let me just put it that way.
	But would you, like, so you said...
	There's no minimum.
	I've never dated somebody and wondered how much they made.
	So they have to work full-time, right?
	Is what you're saying?
	Because I was like, oh, what about $10,000?
	Right now I'm not working full time, so I'm not going to be like, oh, you.
	I mean, as long as they're not a homeless person or.
	So they can make $10,000 a year.
	Say they don't work full-time or whatever.
	Well, then they can't eat or have a house or have an apartment.
	So I guess.
	$20,000.
	As long as they're not homeless.
	So, but you're like, they can't, if it's $10,000.
	I just don't discriminate based on income.
	So I'm not going to throw out some random army.
	But you're not a homeless person.
	I'm just fucking with you.
	But really, seriously, think of a range.
	Some homeless people have really nice tents.
	They also have income sometimes.
	Would you like to sleep in their tent?
	If it was my husband, sure.
	Exactly.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It doesn't.
	Okay, next.
	Sorry.
	Okay, so where I am in life, I guess 85,000.
	Okay, next.
	I would say about 80, but also it depends.
	Depends on what.
	Just what the other girls were saying.
	Like, you know, average, nothing too crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Enough to sustain a family so I can be a stay-at-home mom.
	So, like, around $100K for California where we live.
	Okay, so the highest answer we got was $300,000.
	You live here?
	In California in LA.
	Why 300?
	I mean, that's just like, I feel like a base for just common, like, lifestyle, a little bit of luxury, like, gives a little bit of room, but.
	I agree.
	Southern California is really expensive, but 300 is a lot.
	That's like top 1%, I think.
	Is it top 1?
	Getting in there, I'm not positive, but it's pretty high.
	You want kids?
	Definitely.
	Okay, so you just want to live like super luxuriously or whatever?
	Comfortably and able to travel some throughout the year, able to afford, you know, certain luxuries like a nanny sometimes.
	Okay.
	Things like that.
	I'm not really one to argue with you guys on that.
	I had to like question you because I'm looking for answers, but I'm not going to argue with you.
	How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
	I'm 5'7, minimum.
	I'm gonna say 6' Okay, what about you?
	I don't even know it in centimeters.
	But I'm a hobbit, so a guy who's a little bit taller than me goes.
	What would be the centimeters?
	162, probably.
	I think that's like 5'4 ⁇ , 5'5 ⁇ .
	Sounds about right.
	162?
	162, yeah.
	I thought 140 was.
	I don't know.
	I'm next.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm 5'2 ⁇ , almost 5'3.
	For me, what matters is somebody who could protect me.
	At the moment, the man that I'm girlfriend and boyfriend with, he is six foot, so that is the standard for me.
	So at least six foot.
	Yes.
	For any guy that you date ever?
	No.
	I'm more worried.
	Because you can meet a six foot four guy who will run away, like the first side of danger.
	So it really doesn't matter.
	So protector.
	Yes.
	Someone that's a little taller and can protect you.
	Absolutely.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Taller than me, and I'm five foot six.
	So five seven?
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'2 ⁇ , so it's pretty easy to be taller than me.
	But when I was dating, somebody like at my height at least, but my husband's six foot, which is really nice, not gonna lie.
	Okay, next.
	I'm 5'5.
	Anyone just a little bit taller?
	5'6?
	Yeah.
	Okay, next.
	I'm 5'3 and anyone taller who can protect me.
	So 5'4 if he's like.
	If he's sturdy, yes, absolutely.
	Okay.
	Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
	Oh.
	I know that's like the question, the bear or the man question.
	Yeah.
	I mean, a random man.
	It has to be a damn.
	You wrote random woman.
	Oh.
	Wait, did I reckon that?
	Is this you?
	Are you, Maria?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you wrote a random woman.
	I thought I circled it.
	No.
	Maybe I read it.
	I was like, quick, like.
	No, you wrote it, like, it's in writing, random woman.
	Okay, I thought it was, I think I read woman or man on a hike.
	That's what I like read.
	Oh, okay.
	Next.
	Definitely a man.
	I love animals.
	I will freaking feed the bear and die.
	Okay, next.
	I'm not fighting off a bear.
	Definitely a man.
	Okay, next.
	A man, probably.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean, probably?
	I've seen bears.
	You're scary.
	I've seen both on trails.
	So.
	Either one.
	It's fine.
	Not afraid of either of them.
	Why aren't you afraid of a bear?
	I've seen them on trails.
	Yeah, but.
	Angelus National Forest.
	I've seen them.
	So you're just like nonchalant.
	Don't care if there's a bear walking past you.
	Also, I've seen the bear.
	I mean, like, I'm not running up to it and feeding it.
	I do.
	I mean, they're cute.
	I guess, yeah, like, I've seen bears from all these pictures.
	I don't care, but I'm thinking of it more like if I ride across paths.
	Okay.
	Like, you know, when you're walking on a hike and like a random person passes you and oh, hey, whatever.
	It's just bears.
	Like, imagine if that was a bear running towards me.
	So I think I would see it before I was right next to it, but would the answer still depend in that scenario?
	I mean, again, I was just saying I'm not afraid of either of them, and I would probably choose a man that I'd are you afraid of polar bears?
	No, I've never seen one.
	They're very aggressive.
	Yeah, I think like naturally kick in if you see like a bigger one.
	I could show you a picture of a bear that was like 15 feet away from me.
	Honestly, if it was like a black bear and it was like in the distance, I get it.
	But I don't know if it does.
	Message from the government of Canada.
	Pasty George donated $200.04.
	Can the female panelists who are helping and giving hints on questions to the others please stop?
	You're just proving that the others can't use their own brains.
	No more sisterhood bull boop.
	Yo, George.
	Welcome, George.
	You've been here for like two hours already, but thank you.
	Thank you for the message.
	Were they helping out?
	Yes.
	They were helping out.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I don't like to see the struggle.
	I want to see them struggle.
	I want to see the struggle.
	I don't care if you don't know it.
	Let's sit here for the entire night and wait until one of them answers.
	It makes me sad.
	I'm not being serious.
	I mean, I mean, eventually we sat here for a while.
	Well, it came too.
	But, like, you're not.
	I'm kind of just derailing the show if you guys give her the answer because I'm not looking forward to it.
	You're hit.
	We were trying to find her answer.
	Did she just need a hint?
	Can I answer the bear question?
	I need to.
	Oh, you want to do that?
	I do want to answer the bear question.
	Yeah, we'll do that.
	We were doing it.
	I've just, oh, my bad.
	Were we going across?
	Well, she was.
	I was talking to her because she was like, it depends.
	No, I said either one is fine.
	I've run into bears on trails.
	I've run into men on trails.
	I'm afraid of neither, unless, I mean, obviously, I don't want to get too close to a bear, but I'm not going to, it's not going to spring on me and all of a sudden be right in front of my face.
	Okay.
	I did have one thing I wanted to.
	Apologies.
	Just super quick while I was, we'll come right back to the bear thing.
	I just overheard something while I stepped away.
	You said, like, a guy's money doesn't matter at all to you.
	Like, it wouldn't make him more attractive.
	I don't have a minimum requirement standard.
	That is.
	But, like, it doesn't make him more or less attractive, whether he makes $50,000 or $500,000.
	It's not like.
	$50 million.
	That's disgusting.
	It's disgusting.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	You know what?
	If it hasn't changed him as a person.
	I mean, I'm open to hearing you out.
	Why is it disgusting?
	$50 million annually.
	Close.
	Sorry, $50 million annually is net worth, I guess.
	35-year-old 50M net worth.
	I just can't imagine that much money being like with one person.
	Okay, I give back even with my income, which is philanthropy?
	Well, what I'm saying is $50 million.
	Almost like sickening to think that you haven't given away.
	And I'm not, I'm not even a liberal.
	I'm not like, you know, over here trying to say, like, oh, I hate rich people.
	It's not like that at all.
	But I am not attracted to that.
	That's not something that I'm.
	But why would you assume that, I mean, many people who are wealthy, who have that level of income, many of them do engage in philanthropy and do give money and donate?
	Why is the assumption that they don't?
	Because to have $50 million, okay, yeah, they might donate a little bit here and there, but to have that much money.
	But okay, well, I am coming from like it would just to be clear, it would give you an ick if to date a guy who made 50 million versus a guy who made 50,000.
	That's fine if it's your position.
	Is that your position?
	Yeah, I kind of.
	Unless he was willing to help out a lot of causes that I currently help out.
	So you said that you said that you donate or you give it, especially right now because I am unemployed, but I'm currently fostering three cats.
	I donate to rescues regularly.
	One of them being my aunt's rescue.
	I don't know if I'm allowed to name it, but she has like 50 cats in a barn setting and she has a lot of land and she puts her entire income into this rescue.
	So that, and like obviously living and her land costs, but I'm just saying like, so if I 50 million is unimaginable to me because I would have given it to something else.
	So having that much money just to be gluttonous and like, what, buy a Gucci bag?
	Like it's pathetic to me.
	So that's just my stance.
	Really quick, let's just come back to you said you do philanthropy.
	So you do you donate to a charity or yes, I donate to different rescues and people that I know that do TNR, which is Trap New to Return, all over Los Angeles.
	I don't know if I'm allowed to do that.
	How much in the past three years, how much would you say you've donated?
	That's a good question.
	Well, are you saying monetary donations?
	Because I typically donate through food.
	So I buy from my local place.
	I'll buy like $300 worth of food and tell her to come pick it up because I want to support my local businesses, my local pet shops.
	Okay, so you will buy food for the rescue and also donate money.
	I'll Venmo different people.
	Okay.
	And I don't make a ton of money, but I'm just saying if I had $50 million, it would be going towards better.
	What was the language you used, though?
	You said, was it disgusting or was it gross or what?
	I'm trying to remember exactly.
	I might have said gross.
	Gross.
	It's gross to have 50 million.
	Why is that?
	It's, I don't know.
	It's just no, I'm not at all.
	Not at all.
	Then how do you reconcile nothing?
	I just couldn't live with myself with $50 million.
	I couldn't.
	I couldn't live with your.
	You do realize, though, if you did have a money.
	There's so many things that causes that need money.
	And I'm a huge cat lover, huge animal lover.
	So like different causes that I yeah.
	Well, I mean, wouldn't it logically rehabilitation and rescues?
	And can you allow me to just, it sounded like there was a period there.
	I started my sentence.
	I'd appreciate if you let me finish my sentence.
	Sorry.
	So if you had $50 million, You could, hell, if you were so inclined, you could give 40 million of that to the charities of your choice.
	But what is the grossness or objection to the 50 million?
	I don't understand.
	Meeting somebody with that much money who hasn't like you would judge them if they hold on to their money.
	Are they evil?
	What are they?
	Why is it greed?
	I don't know.
	How's it?
	Why is it greed?
	It's greed because, um, and I do understand where you're coming from.
	I don't know if you've ever grown up.
	Go ahead.
	I don't know if you've ever grown up around wealthy people.
	I was blessed.
	My father was a very, very hardworking man.
	He came from nothing.
	At some point, he was making a couple million a month.
	He was, I'm not even trying to glaze my dad, but he was extremely generous to not only his children and his wife, but to the people around him, to his employees.
	You know, and I'm not trying to say that your opinion is wrong, but I think that you unfortunately just weren't able to experience the good side or the good people who are wealthy.
	I also know a lawyer who tips every time he comes in to a restaurant, he tips the server $100, tips the hostess at least $20, $50.
	You know, I don't know, and I'm sorry that you've never experienced that, but in just my experience, wealthy people can be extremely generous, even more so than people who are not at that level.
	But I just encourage you to maybe like open up that a little bit because you can also be wealthy too.
	You can help out people.
	There's nothing stopping you.
	But I think just having that mindset that, oh, wealthy people are greedy and they're gluttonous.
	And I think that's not only going to kind of make this, it's going to give you this animosity towards them.
	It's going to stop you from ever growing as well.
	But that's just what I think.
	And I love it when you said in the beginning of the show that if you already have something in you to be able to be the bad person you can be with a lot of money that will bring it out when you get a lot of money.
	And I think if you have experience with that, it's probably been with people like that.
	Oh my God, you guys are being way too fucking nice with her.
	So just to be clear, you would date, you would date, boy, if presented with two options of men you could date, and they're both the same.
	They're both the same.
	Both the same, but one makes $50,000 a year, the other makes $5 million a year.
	You pick the guy who makes $50,000.
	Again, it's not like these random scenarios are...
	Do you want to answer the question and then give your explanation?
	I don't know which one I would choose.
	I've never thought about it, okay?
	But you just said money, gross, money, bad.
	No, but what I'm saying is somebody who's amassed 50 million and is just like sitting on this pile of wealth for.
	Well, most, hold on.
	Most people who have like a 50M net worth, it's not liquid.
	It's like in, it's in stocks and it's in their business and it's in real estate and all this stuff.
	I mean, maybe it could, there's probably, there's certainly people who have 50M liquid, but I don't, okay.
	I just think the personality of the guy making $50,000 would align more with my personality.
	Assume the personality is the same.
	Or the rich guy has a better personality than the guy who makes less.
	Then that's all that matters.
	So you go the rich guy.
	I go with the person that I fall in love with, Brian.
	That's what you're not understanding.
	I don't care how much somebody makes.
	If I fall in love with you, that's and I don't fall in love with you because of money.
	That's it.
	Like, it doesn't, it doesn't come into my mind.
	Like, how much money do you make?
	Like, I've never asked that to anybody.
	I think it's a bit of a virtue signal.
	I mean, I understand that it's maybe low.
	Like you don't, you'll date a guy and you can have a great relationship with a guy who doesn't have a lot of money.
	That's absolutely plausible.
	But this idea that once a guy starts earning a lot of money, that then he goes into a territory of like less desirable as he starts making more money.
	That's kind of odd to me.
	And this idea, like I think about a guy.
	He could, he could.
	I'm not saying that it happens every time.
	But a guy who makes who's wealthy or well off, and that might not be $5 million a year.
	Maybe it's $200,000, $300,000 a year.
	That's really, that's a really great income.
	And you can live a really good life off of that.
	I don't know.
	It just seems.
	Why would it be a negative, though?
	I don't know.
	That seems odd to me.
	$200,000, $300,000 is not the same as having $50 million.
	If you're making a business.
	Well, I could go higher then.
	Okay, he's a billionaire.
	You wouldn't date a billionaire?
	I haven't thought about it.
	I haven't given it any thought.
	You can think about it right now.
	If he wants to help out cat rescues.
	How about here's an interesting question for you?
	You love him.
	He loves you.
	But there's one sticking point.
	He's got a lot of wealth.
	But he's like, you know, I've got all this money.
	I'm not going to donate any of it, though.
	He's just, you know, I want to provide for you, for the family, and I don't want to donate any of it.
	So what is it for?
	What is it all for?
	No, that's what I ask people.
	Hopefully your children and the future children and the generations and generations of generational wealth.
	That's not something that I aim for.
	You don't.
	Hold on.
	I'm not aiming for a generational wealth.
	No, I don't.
	Wow.
	That's a good idea.
	I want them to.
	No, I want them to grow up in a similar way that I have.
	I want them to.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Didn't you say you were like a, like had, I don't want to say the word abused, but you said you had really bad experiences with like your female.
	Oh, no, I don't have great female.
	Yeah.
	You want your kids to grow up how you grow up?
	No, yeah.
	Well, being abused by the females?
	I was not abused by you.
	You were mistreated.
	You were maltreated.
	I was not abused whatsoever.
	I like my dad has money, but he didn't, he never gave me money.
	And it was never.
	No, so what I'm saying is.
	Well, was that bad or was that good?
	It was great.
	It was great.
	I was taught so many lessons.
	I, I, yeah, that's really good.
	Even if you're obscenely wealthy, you can still like, I mean, if I fell into like vast amounts of wealth, or, you know, I'm currently doing fairly well, but I mean, not super crazy, not 5M or not fucking 10M, 50M a year.
	I don't want to give my children the impression that like we're insanely rich.
	Yeah, I want to raise my kids very modestly.
	Yeah, I want them to struggle a little bit.
	I want them to work at 16 like I did.
	I want them.
	I want them to have a comfortable life and think, well, hold on.
	A comfortable life is not 300,000 or 5 million.
	I want their needs to be taken care of.
	And if there's something that they need, then it can be taken care of.
	And I want a good home.
	And we can have certain leisure activities and stuff.
	But I don't ever, they're not going to be wearing like fucking bling to school and shit.
	No, like, I want them to, I want, I would want my children to have like some degree of modesty to them.
	So I don't want them to think, I'm not going to like instill in them really anything about money in terms of them having like a big head about the family money.
	Yeah, well, if you have 51%.
	I want to have money so that I can provide security for my children.
	When I say security, I don't mean like a security guard, bodyguard.
	Safety in a safe place to have a nice home and take care of necessities and this sort of thing.
	But you can teach your kids' values with money, even though your parents haven't.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You can still give your children that sort of upbringing, even if you're obscenely wealthy.
	Maybe you can hide that shit a little bit.
	You don't let on to them, I'm a billionaire, blah, blah, blah.
	You can be like, look, we're doing good.
	You want a bike?
	I'll get you a bike.
	Let me give you an example of a billionaire.
	You can still raise them in a modest way, if that makes sense.
	Go ahead.
	Elon Musk, you think he's a good dad?
	You think he's spending time with his children?
	Because no, he's in the companies way more.
	He's building his companies and not his children or their values or anything.
	And most of them despise him.
	And that is what wealth, you might think, oh, it's everything.
	No, spending time with your family is spending time with your wife and having love between the two of you.
	And like, that's what's important.
	And I don't know.
	I will tell you this.
	I don't know if you have experienced the lowest of the low.
	I have also experienced that.
	And I think when you do, you will realize how important wealth is.
	Wealth is everything, especially in America.
	You cannot get, there's wealth is security.
	Wealth is respect.
	You know, again, I don't know if you've ever experienced the complete opposite side to wealth, but I am telling you, you know, it is very important.
	And I would never, in my opinion, I would want my kids to be comfortable, not spoiled, but comfortable.
	I don't want them to have to worry about, you know, I want them to have the best schooling.
	I want them to have all that stuff.
	It's luxury to have the time to give it to your kids.
	And if you don't have the wealth, you don't have the time to give them.
	So to answer your question, you brought up Elon Musk.
	Look, this guy is a very unique, he has a very unique dynamic.
	I don't think it's really fair to use him as like the go-to example of a billionaire.
	He has like four, five, six baby mamas.
	He's like doing like a like he's trying to, I don't know if it's like clan building where I mean he wants to impregnate multiple women.
	That's kind of out of the norm.
	Do you does he he had look, I think there probably reaches a point when you have so many different children with different mothers and you have you're operating as like the CEO of like three, four different like multi-billion dollar companies.
	Probably doesn't have a lot of time to be involved.
	Do you know any billionaire children and how well they were raised by their met a billionaire?
	I don't what so I'm but I'm saying like children of billionaires like have their parents aren't the best.
	Well then we hold on I don't know if that's even true but and by the way there's very few billionaires to begin with but you you say I feel like probably Elon Musk's children like I'll know the dynamics in terms of like the degree to which he's financially contributing to their lives or whatever.
	I don't know if that's ever been investigated.
	Who knows what the dynamics are?
	His children are probably well off.
	I think although one of his children is a bit of an interesting one.
	Wealthy people are just like normal people.
	I know people that come from so much money and you would have no idea their family life is just like everyone else's.
	It's not like once you hit a certain amount, you're like a horrible person and a bad parent and like absent.
	Obviously, like every parent has their work life and their home life, but it's not like people that are children of like multi-millionaires are like more neglected or whatever just because their parent makes a lot of money.
	I mean, is there an experience you've gone through?
	I grew up in Calabasas.
	Calabasas.
	And you found that your parents weren't there?
	No, I'm not talking about me.
	Like, I had a great upbringing.
	I'm just talking about like.
	Who said that wealthy people don't donate?
	No.
	Where did that idea come from?
	What I'm saying is that when you raise your children with a certain amount of money, they come out toxic, delusional, and not all, not every time.
	If you raise them with money, if you throw money at them instead of being a parent.
	Yes.
	And drug addiction.
	I'm close with a lot of people that come from families that are alcohol addictions.
	Why would they have drug addictions?
	Because they can afford cocaine.
	What?
	No, they don't.
	He's not like taking his parents' money and buying Coke.
	Some of the wealthiest people I met, again, were the most well-behaved.
	And I'm talking to people who came from older people.
	And they go to schools like Montessori and stuff where they have to learn etiquette and manners in class.
	Some of them are better behaved, again, than people who bash off.
	It's super simple.
	Yes, people from an affluence background can turn out bad.
	People who grew up poor can turn out really good, but they can also turn out bad.
	And then people who grew up rich also can turn out just fine and be so I don't think it's like the ultimate determining factor.
	But I mean, I do think wealth confers a lot of privileges and benefits that would maybe make it more likely, I think, to actually turn out good.
	Not necessarily, it's not like a guarantee, but I think, you know, if you go to like private school or you have certain benefits like that, or the mom can stay home and she, you know, if the guy, the man's just super wealthy, the mother can just stay at home, stay-at-home mom, doesn't have to work.
	I think being a stay-at-home mom is the, not to say that, you know, if both parents work, not to say that the kid's going to turn out to be some fucking murderer criminal.
	I think the best result that you can have for children is a mother at home.
	So do you agree with me?
	I completely agree with that.
	My sister is one of those.
	And you know what?
	Her husband doesn't make millions of dollars.
	And they're perfectly, some of the happiest couples I know are the ones that are not rich.
	Okay, that's fine.
	But like the economic and financial reality is in order to enable one person, look, whether it's the man or the woman, though typically the typical dynamic is the woman stays home.
	In order to enable that, the man has to make a certain amount of income for that to be possible.
	Now, there's another component.
	You can, you know, reduce your lifestyle, reduce those sorts of things.
	Okay, well, we're going to have just one car and we're going to live in this neighborhood and we're going to live in this state and we're not going to go on vacation.
	You can, you know, you can do some flexibility there if the guy isn't a massively high earner.
	But if the guy is a high earner, then you can have pretty much all of that and the wife can stay at home.
	I guess my confusion here is if you acknowledge that the best thing for the children is to have one of the parents stay at home, why wouldn't you date the guy who makes 50M when you definitely don't have to work then?
	I that's just it's just not something that I am interested in.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what else to say.
	I don't want to raise my kids with $50 million.
	Even though it's security for both of you.
	So just, yeah, yeah, then my husband also wouldn't work.
	If we had $50 million, then we just, you know, probably wouldn't.
	Yeah, I mean, if he's, let's say, maybe he wants to work, though, and you, you know, let's just say he's the wealth is at a level where he he's like, well, I don't want to retire, but he makes a lot of money.
	I don't know.
	I'm just confused.
	Like, so you would rather hustle and struggle and have a husband and perhaps even yourself that are going to have to work until retirement age or post-retirement age versus assuming some in this hypothetical, a guy who makes $10 million a year, you wouldn't take that.
	I just don't see that those people being the same kind of person.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Okay, so here, I'll ask it super simply: two options.
	Yes.
	You could date a guy, and he's a good guy, treats you well, whatever.
	You're attracted to him.
	He makes $10 million a year.
	Guy number one.
	And an entailment of that is you don't have to work.
	He's like, look, I'm making good money.
	I just, you don't have to work.
	I'll retire you.
	Just take care of the kids, take care of the household, take care of the family, whatever.
	And then $10 million a year, look, you guys can.
	But is he absent all the time?
	Let's just say this.
	I don't know.
	He works, what's the average?
	40 hours a week is the average.
	All right.
	I'll put it at 50 hours just because, you know, he's a 10 million a year.
	Yeah, he's working above average.
	He's working 50 hours a week.
	Option number two.
	He makes $50,000 a year.
	And in order the financial reality of living in California or wherever you want to live, whatever, that's kind of secondary.
	You're going to have to work too.
	You're both going to have to work for the rest of your lives.
	Which man do you pick?
	And he's good and he treats you well and blah, blah, blah.
	Oh my God.
	I would probably pick the guy that makes you said $5 million or $10 million a year or 50 hours a week.
	10 million, 10 million.
	Yeah, okay, 10 million.
	I'm just going to pick that because I don't want to work when I have young children.
	Then what the fuck are we arguing about?
	Hello?
	I'm just saying that I don't discriminate.
	I don't discriminate based on how much money you make.
	I don't ask questions of how much money do you make or Google what their job is or, you know, I don't care.
	That's what I'm, that's my only point.
	I don't know why we're stuck on this.
	Well, no, but it got to a point where there it wasn't just, look, if he makes 50, I understand that you'll date a guy who doesn't make a lot of money.
	That's totally fine.
	I have no qualms there.
	But then it got into this conversation about I, it's icky.
	Like if somebody's sitting on 50 million, if somebody has a lot of money, that's kind of icky.
	I would perhaps, I understand you don't care about it, but it's kind of like I don't understand why you wouldn't just take it.
	Like, okay, two guys that are equivalent, one makes $50,000 a year, one makes $10 million a year.
	They're never the same person.
	The benefit, though, the benefit that it would extend to you for a guy to be that wealthy, it's just you could have a maid.
	You could have a private chef.
	Maybe I don't want to.
	All your expenses are.
	You'll never have to worry about money in your life again.
	People's number one stressors in life is like job and money, and I got to pay the rent and my fucking health care.
	Everything you date a guy, you marry a guy who makes 10M, you're good for life.
	All that stress is gone.
	You can stop working.
	She won't take it.
	I don't understand.
	Take care of the cats.
	You wanted to know, but when you're, but when you're working, it builds character.
	And it also.
	No, it doesn't.
	You're a slave for some bullshit corporation working.
	It kind of reminds me of, you know, like the little princess that wants to go out to see.
	Like, dude, I've had, I've had so much.
	I've traveled a ton and I've had a lot of different jobs and I've seen a lot of things.
	I've done a lot of things.
	You're acting like I'm some struggle.
	Basically, I mean, it's sadism.
	Or no, sorry, masochism, my bad.
	No.
	But also, it's not that I want the struggle.
	I don't think work is a struggle.
	You just discriminate, and then you're saying that people that make that are high earners are like bad people.
	I'm not, I'm not saying that they're all bad.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I said the chances of your children being, for lack of a better term, effed up is if you're a billionaire, it's higher than you would think.
	Well, what about just like instead of going extreme with a billionaire?
	What about just like a guy who makes like 5M a year?
	Are your chances of being fucked up higher if your father makes that much money?
	I don't know.
	But wouldn't that be an extension of no money, no problem?
	Oh my God.
	It's completely backwards.
	Your chances, I think.
	You think that.
	But what I've witnessed and what I've seen through my lifetime leads me to believe that when you raise your children to be entitled and rich and whatever, they end up these virtues can hold on.
	These virtues can be instilled in children regardless of your wealth.
	Yeah, it's not the money, it's the parents.
	Yep, for sure.
	If you're, if you spoil your kids, then yeah, sure, I guess.
	But that's just not what I want.
	Yeah, you got kids running around shooting each other in the hood.
	It doesn't make a difference.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	Like, it seems like there's maybe a bit more crime in neighborhoods where the socioeconomics are not that great.
	My ideal situation, let me just put it into perspective a little bit.
	Like, are there gangbangers in Montecito?
	Ideally.
	Like, no, there's fucking gang bangers in Compton, though, or wherever the fuck.
	There's a bunch of gang.
	And these are typically like you look at the socioeconomics of the neighborhoods where there's gang banging.
	It's not a bunch of affluent, you know, blah, blah, blah.
	It's not an affluent neighborhood.
	I understand.
	Ideally, I want to live on a ranch, have some Texas.
	No, but not in California.
	I told you, I don't entirely.
	You're not in a fucking ranch.
	Do you know who I'm doing?
	No, no, no.
	We're drilling in.
	It's being expensive.
	Do you want some horses?
	Oh, my gosh.
	You got horses.
	Yes, horses.
	Horses are expensive.
	Wait, here that's what I'm saying.
	It's just, I think it's everywhere.
	Yeah, the best thing you can get to your kids is like a race car or a horse because they will never have enough time or money to do anything else.
	That is stupid.
	I think you really need to check your privilege.
	Check your privilege.
	I think that's what it is.
	I'm not trying to bash you for being wealthy.
	Again, like I've been there.
	I've done that.
	I've lived many lives, but I think you seriously need to experience what it is like to be the average man or woman working for $20 an hour.
	I think you really need to experience that before you go around saying that, oh, like, you know, all people who are rich.
	You think I haven't done that?
	I've been a certainty.
	You haven't been low enough and not have a father.
	Be 100%.
	I think getting the millions.
	Okay, anyway, moving on.
	Just, I guess, final thing on this.
	You say that you think it's more likely that these kids are going to be dysfunctional if they grow up in a household where the parents are affluent.
	I think that's completely backwards.
	I think when you have money, that provides certain privileges and benefits for children.
	And look, it's certainly possible that, yes, maybe the kids could be spoiled.
	Maybe they have some sort of entitlement.
	I think that that can be combated against by not spoiling them, by teaching them virtue, by teaching them modesty.
	Yes, you know, father does well, but there's other things besides wealth that are important.
	Cultivate virtue, and a wealthy father can teach their kids that.
	Also, it confers a ton of benefits.
	Your wife can stay home and take care of the kids.
	You can send them to the best schools.
	They can have, you know, great doctors.
	They can have their health care needs taken care of.
	They can have all these things that set them up to become the best person.
	Maybe you get them involved in sports and they can have like a personal trainer.
	They can have like a private, it's not a private, in sports, like a private trainer.
	I don't know what it would be.
	You can really set up your kids in life with money in a way that's not going to make them like these spoiled brats, basically.
	And not only that, your own life can be extremely comfortable.
	So I don't know, this defaulting to, oh, well, if you're wealthy, your kids are going to grow up and be worse off.
	What?
	That just doesn't.
	No, aside from health privilege, like having good health, I think that's the best privilege you can have.
	Like if you are born and you have a bunch of health problems and you're born into a wealthy family, I mean, better than to have health problems and be born poor.
	But if you are otherwise healthy and you're born into a wealthy family, that's the biggest privilege you can have.
	That's going to set you up the best in life to, you know, have a good trajectory in your own life.
	It's the number one privilege.
	But you don't seem to think so.
	You seem to think it's a negative.
	That's interesting.
	My point is that I don't want to raise my kids with $50 million.
	I'm not looking to be uber wealthy or, and I'm not trying to date a millionaire.
	I don't know why this whole conversation is so controversial for you guys.
	It was not meant to be.
	It's just not what I'm looking for.
	I prefer like a more modest life.
	So you think that money makes people who they are?
	No, not necessarily, but it can absolutely corrupt you.
	I just, can we move on?
	Yeah, I want to move on.
	Again, we are acknowledging that you'll date a guy who makes 50K.
	We understand that.
	But if the option presents itself to date a guy who makes 50M.
	Okay.
	I guess we'll leave it at that.
	We have a message from Pacy George here.
	A message from the government of Canada.
	Pasty George donated $200.04.
	I'm a millionaire and I'm having a hard time understanding how having so much money can be gross as you just put it.
	Please enlighten me.
	I think we just talked about this, but if you want to answer, you can.
	Laura?
	Yeah, I know I heard you.
	I think I already touched on it.
	We already talked about that.
	Let's go back to, I didn't finish the bear question, so to you.
	Okay.
	So I live in New York and where I live, like the black bears are pussies.
	So if it was one of those bears, yes.
	But you don't get to pick.
	Okay.
	So it would, I want to say man, and I'm working on saying man, but I have to admit, just because of some prejudices I have from stuff I've been through, I would, I guess I would say man, even though it's hard for me, but man.
	Why is it hard for you?
	I didn't meet my father until he was nine, and he was a real prick.
	So like every, like I was dreaming of meeting him, and then he was awful for 10 years.
	And I realized that this year for the first time that I don't trust men, but it's not them, it's me not letting them in.
	So you think that, like, what do you, I guess?
	Like, how does that relate to the bear question?
	I'm very intimidated by men, men.
	Okay.
	That's why.
	Why?
	Because you think they're going to hurt you?
	Yeah, because for a long time they, that's all they did.
	But like I said, I'm working on it because I realized that, oh, wait, this is me, because that was a long time ago.
	So.
	Yeah, I understand, but also, like, I feel like if we replaced every man, you know, you're spy on the sidewalk with a random bear, black, brown, polar bear.
	That's it.
	And like, we don't have grizzly bears, so I've never even seen how crazy those guys get.
	Yeah, okay.
	Next.
	A man.
	Oh, really?
	Next.
	A man.
	Okay.
	Well, I guess you two were the only ones that were like, maybe like on the fence.
	But you did both say man.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Let me.
	Should I ask the questionnaire questions, Brian?
	Do you have any more stuff?
	No, I don't have any more.
	I already asked all my silly questions.
	Yeah, I think I did.
	Okay.
	Sure, yeah.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	You agree?
	I agree.
	I'm traditional.
	Okay, and you agree.
	Who agrees?
	Yes.
	You agree?
	No?
	Okay, you agree?
	Okay, you agree.
	I'm just going to keep going.
	Okay, men should provide and protect.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	Yes.
	Everyone agrees.
	I will keep my last name or hyphenate in marriage.
	No.
	Not sure.
	Why?
	Why are you not sure?
	I mean, it depends who this guy is going to be, like, what their last name is.
	If I'd rather keep mine or not involved.
	So.
	I like my last name.
	I don't have a problem with it.
	Yeah.
	Well, you said you think men should pay on first dates.
	Basically, like you believe that men should be more traditional, right?
	But I think taking your husband's last name is pretty traditional, yeah.
	So it's kind of like hypocritical to not take his last name if you're expecting him to be more traditional.
	Like if you're not willing to be traditional, why should he be traditional?
	No, I mean, I definitely more than likely would, but I like my last name because I've also built my own, you know, reputation brand around it.
	So that's my reason.
	Okay, but do you think you would get offended?
	Like, I feel like most men, they would be, or not most, but some men would be offended if they were like, my wife doesn't want my last name.
	I guess in Hispanic cultures, it's pretty common.
	Like, they'll keep.
	Oh, that's true.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then you also agreed that you would keep your last name.
	I will take it.
	You'll take it.
	Anyone else want to keep their name?
	No.
	Okay, so you were the only one.
	Past should not matter.
	It absolutely should matter.
	Yep.
	I think it depends.
	Like, if you have been, like, you believe you've been redeemed and you're doing better in life, then it's like, yeah, like every saint has a past, every sinner has a future type stuff.
	But if you're still actively being detrimental to yourself, then yeah, it definitely matters.
	And I think if you're with somebody, your partner should know because they should be able to decide, you know?
	Oh, I think you shouldn't ask questions you don't want answers to because it's going to matter.
	So don't ask if you don't want to know it.
	Like with body cast.
	What do you, so you guys didn't answer.
	Do you think past should matter?
	Yeah.
	No, I did.
	I answered on the question.
	And you too?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So you were the only one that said like it depends.
	Yeah, like if you're still actively harming yourself and harming others around you, then your past is really important because that's like you're still actively living it.
	But if you're trying to be a better person, then like I do still think you should share it with your partner because if it comes out later about all of this and you're already committed or been around for a long time or been married, like it's just going to cause more problems.
	I agree.
	I think people can change, but I have another question.
	Would you ever, well, you're married, but let's say in this hypothetical, you're not, would you ever date someone or a man that used to have sex with men?
	I think it would depend on if he, so like I am a Christian and if he thought that like, okay, I'm born again and I'm no longer this way and then yes.
	But if he didn't have like the right motivations, like I well, I don't say the right motivations, but like I just, in that situation, I'd be a little bit more trusting that he's not going to go back to men on me, you know?
	But I think if I just met him and he was like, oh, by the way, like a month ago, I dated men, I'd be like, no, because men always pick men if they can, I think.
	Men always pick men?
	Like, it was just something like my friends would say, right?
	Yeah, interested.
	Like, what does that mean?
	Like, we would just joke around growing up, like, anybody I knew, like, all my friends who were gay, they'd be like, they'd say, I'm bi, but not really.
	Like, if I could pick a man, I'd pick a man.
	Oh, yeah.
	I've never heard of that.
	Interesting.
	So I guess your answer's kind of following like the it depends.
	Okay.
	Women put in more effort when it comes to dating.
	Do you agree?
	No, I don't agree.
	Do you agree?
	Yep.
	I think I said not necessarily.
	I think it's very even.
	What do you guys think?
	I don't agree that women put in more effort.
	I don't think so.
	I haven't dated in a long time, so I don't really know.
	But yeah, I don't think so.
	I think I said yes.
	And you?
	I don't really know.
	So for those who said yes, why do you think that?
	It depends, but with the beginning of dating, the woman usually does everything before the date.
	It's like you're shaving your legs, you're doing your makeup, you're doing your hair, you're picking clothes, and men have the easy road to just get their clothes off, hopefully pick you up and pay.
	Yeah, but I think paying requires effort, right?
	Like they have to work for that money.
	And I don't know how much they make if they work just like a regular job.
	However, like say you're going on like a $100 date and the guy makes like $20 an hour.
	He's going to have to work four hours or more or whatever to pay for that date.
	But I think I don't necessarily need a date like that.
	You can plan something that you can go and walk out in the park or something and I'm still going to give my all to like look perfect.
	This is just like a personal question of mine.
	It's not on the questionnaire.
	What do you guys think like when a guy wants to take you somewhere super fancy for the first date?
	Like really expensive?
	I used to like if my Do you like it?
	Oh yeah.
	Of course.
	Who doesn't like to be treated that way?
	But I would always, if I went on a date and the guy like insisted on paying, I always paid the tip at least.
	But like let's say it's a it's a place where it's like $100.
	Oh and it's like a first date?
	Yeah.
	No, can we not?
	Too much pressure.
	What do you guys think?
	I think that they're trying to impress, or that's just what they're used to.
	Like, that's the lifestyle they're used to.
	Be like, can we go to a diner instead?
	You really have to hear and see how this person is because I do know that a lot of men will do this to try and get you in their bed quicker.
	So, I'm not saying that all men who do that, no, absolutely not.
	But I think you have to be very attentive of people who do this, who just throw money.
	Some people are generous, but also an equal amount can expect something.
	So, yeah, you always got to be a little bit careful because nothing is necessarily free.
	That happened to me one time.
	This guy that was just my friend, he was like, Do you want to go to Nobu?
	And I felt really uncomfortable.
	I was like, I don't want to go to Nobu.
	That's why I wanted to ask because I've heard girls say that they would like that and they want to be wined and dined and all that.
	But I would prefer like a regular place.
	I don't think you should ever somebody offers you a no.
	Oh, wait, were you dating this person?
	No, no.
	So, he was like a friend, and he was like, Oh, I'm interested in you.
	Do you want to go to Nobu?
	And I was like, No, I don't want to go to New Boo.
	Well, I mean, I think if anything, if this helps, that means he definitely sees you in a very high light, you know.
	So, if he's been friends with you for a while and he's like, Let me take you to Nobu, but you still need to be careful, you know?
	I think it's easier.
	Like, I knew I was not going to sleep with any man, you know, like because I was waiting.
	So, like, that made it easier because, like, yeah, you can take me there, but you're not taking me home, you know?
	Yeah.
	Okay, next question: Dating is our statement: Dating is harder for women.
	Who agrees or disagrees?
	You think dating is harder for women?
	No, you're like unsure.
	I mean, from my perspective, yes, but why?
	Why do you say yes?
	Just especially men in LA, they're just very, they are different than what I'm used to.
	I'm not even from LA.
	I'm from St. Louis, like a smaller town.
	So they're definitely more so into like open relationships, not monogamy.
	Like, they're not poly is just crazy.
	Yeah, so many poly situationships.
	I have friends and they're like, oh, we're poly now.
	And I'm like, yeah.
	Oh, great.
	Like, I'm not.
	And then, like, a year later, their marriage falls apart.
	We're breaking up soon.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	We're cheating on each other.
	It's fine.
	It's great.
	What do you guys think?
	Dating is, do you think dating is harder for women?
	I think dating is hard if you make it hard, man or woman.
	I think the step that people always skip is making sure that you are what you want from another person.
	And that's why people are running around because they don't even show or they can't even be disciplined towards themselves, yet they expect other people to be disciplined and respectful towards them.
	It doesn't, you can't have the two.
	You cannot go out and expect others to respect you if you're not showing that you respect yourself.
	So I think the number one trick to dating is really just taking care of yourself first before ever going out and pointing your fingers at other people.
	It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, but that's just what I believe.
	Yeah, I don't think it's really harder for anyone.
	I think it's hard if you're like dating someone that's like a psycho crazy stalker, like, yeah, dating is going to be harder for you, whatever gender you are, but I don't think it's like harder for one specific gender.
	What do you guys think?
	I think getting the date might be a little easier for the woman.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	What do you guys think?
	I agree with that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Getting laid is harder for women.
	Does anyone agree or disagree?
	No.
	You could literally be the biggest butterface.
	And hey, you want to do it?
	The next guy on the street's going to say yes.
	So disagrees with disgusting.
	It's too easy.
	I'm sorry.
	So who disagrees?
	Who disagrees that getting laid is or yeah, getting laid is harder for women.
	Does anyone disagree?
	I don't think anyone disagree.
	Men are more superficial than women.
	No.
	No.
	Well, you agreed.
	That they are more circled.
	That's on the LA.
	Yeah, LA side.
	Anyone else think men are more superficial than women?
	It depends, but yeah.
	So what do you, why do you think that?
	This is only for California, like LA specifically.
	The men, you know, they expect the women to drive, you know, like top of line cars.
	Like they expect the women to have like all of these things and I don't know, all of this money.
	So they do?
	Yeah.
	I don't date in LA.
	Yeah.
	They definitely like have high expectations or maybe they just already assume like, oh, they're dating all these other men.
	So they should have, I don't know.
	Just like, I was gonna say the minute we got off the plane here, we're like, oh, this place is different.
	Like, yeah.
	You could just see like the way everybody was like dressed.
	Even the men, like you said, they were like, there was a guy on the tram to go get our luggage, like who was just definitely showing off.
	Yeah.
	It's just randomly going, woohoo.
	Why are you changing?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So superficial.
	You know, showing off his clothes.
	And does anyone think women are more superficial?
	We're much more materialistic.
	I think that's a fact.
	And there's no shame in saying that, saying that we are.
	I truly don't think we should try and say, no, we're not materialistic.
	No, we don't like nice things.
	Because I just don't think that's true.
	We are gatherers.
	So we like to go around and get the stuff and everything like that.
	I think men, you know, just like Brian was explaining, they're very, very, very simple creatures.
	I think when they're looking for someone to be a wife, they're just looking for someone who can take care of their kids and bear them healthily.
	So I think men are extremely simple in comparison to women.
	There's no shame at all of having like these standards as a woman.
	But also to say that we're not superficial or men are more superficial than us is just not true.
	I think on the first date base, men are more superficial because it's like you see a pretty girl, you want to take her out.
	You see a not so pretty girl, you probably don't want to take her out.
	But women have like they give more chances to a guy who doesn't look a certain way.
	But then we have the other things we want and need, like being funny and stuff.
	That is true.
	I think if anything, we can say in different ways.
	Yeah.
	In different ways.
	But yeah, I agree with that.
	Men care more about looks than women do.
	Does anyone agree with that or disagree?
	If it was like 10 years ago, I would disagree, but not anymore.
	So you don't think men care more about looks than women?
	I think they used to, but I think women care more now.
	Okay, what do you guys think?
	Might be possible.
	But the same thing.
	I think it's the first date basis because women will date men lower than they live, like on the outside.
	It will give them a chance.
	I've seen men do that too, though.
	Yeah.
	I think when you have something, you don't look for it in others.
	So if you're like, I mean, I've seen very handsome guys be with not, you know, so pretty girls.
	And I've seen very gorgeous girls be with like not so handsome guys.
	So I think it's a very strange, like a paradox, I would call it.
	That's just something I noticed.
	If you're naturally pretty, you're usually not that superficial.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	When you have to put a lot of work to look that pretty, then you usually want a guy who's also a cancer.
	Does anyone else think men care more about looks than women?
	No?
	Okay.
	A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	You agreed with that?
	That she shouldn't.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Why?
	I mean.
	Oh, into the mic, please.
	Oh, sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	I'm far back.
	I just don't think that weight should matter.
	If the guy likes a woman for being big, then that's what he likes.
	It's like if a guy, like say a bigger girl was interested in a guy and he was like, I don't want to date you because you're bigger.
	Do you think that's wrong?
	That's his preference.
	I want to feel that way.
	You can't force attraction.
	Yeah.
	It is wrong like on a paper, but you can girl showed up and she's a little thicker than you thought, maybe give her a chance, but be honest, be like, hey, this isn't going to work out.
	If it isn't, you know, you never know.
	She could be really great.
	I mean, if you're not attracted to them, what's the point?
	Yeah.
	It's not going to work out.
	It's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	Does anyone agree?
	I think, you know, I know a lot.
	Oh, sorry, David.
	If it continues.
	Yeah, I think it's reasonable.
	I mean, I don't want to make it seem like, oh, this is our duty as women.
	It's the only thing we're good for.
	No.
	But men need, like, they have a lot of testosterone and they need to be able to, you know, have someone to have that act with.
	I do not think it should be something that you feel forced to do, but he at the same time should have every right to say, hey, I need to find someone who can meet my needs.
	You know?
	But yeah, I think it's absolutely okay for a man to separate with his girlfriend.
	And a lot of women use it as something to what's the word?
	Like when you want something.
	They play a game.
	Yeah.
	And if your sex drives aren't the same, your relationship is just doomed to fail.
	It just is.
	Yep.
	You guys agree or disagree?
	I agree.
	What do you think?
	I agree with what you said, especially in a marriage.
	I think it's a little bit different than like a girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Like, do my best to never say no.
	Yeah, I feel like when you become a wife, it is more of your duty, especially from like a Christian point of view.
	But a girlfriend, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Ryan's coming back.
	Okay.
	I would not date a man who owned a firearm.
	Does anyone agree?
	They wouldn't date a man that owned a man.
	I wouldn't date a man if he owned a firearm.
	Yeah, I'm not even right now.
	I don't own a firearm.
	It's like a big thing to own a gun into.
	I hate it.
	All right, guys, I stepped away there for a moment, but I was listening to the conversation.
	Nevertheless, I did have a few thoughts on a couple things.
	A couple things I heard.
	Sorry, I'm not good at debating.
	No, you're fine.
	You're fine.
	It was still good to just get through all that.
	We were just agreeing way too much.
	You have very good secondary questions.
	Thanks.
	So there's a few things that we were going to get into.
	There was one of her disagreements, but I'll say that for later.
	There was something about somebody wanting income, the bear thing.
	But first, I want to come to a few of the questions that Felicity just asked.
	So it's just the first four.
	First five, actually.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Just, I know some of you guys circled these.
	Just go ahead and we'll just do hand raises if you agree with the statement.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Raise them high, please.
	Raise them high.
	You're the only one?
	Okay.
	Men should provide and protect.
	Okay.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	Okay.
	Husband should be willing to die protecting me.
	Take the bullet.
	Okay.
	Sabrina, did you raise your hand for that?
	Yes.
	Did you?
	Oh, I didn't see it.
	I just saw these.
	Maybe I missed it.
	But the husband should be willing to die protecting all of you.
	Yes.
	However, those are the first four.
	Hold on.
	Oh, wait.
	Am I fucking this up?
	I think you meant.
	I think.
	I will keep my last name or hyphenate in marriage.
	Let me see if anybody circled that.
	Actually.
	Wait, hold on.
	None of you want to hyphenate.
	All of you will take your husband's last name?
	Why not?
	I said possibly.
	Possibly.
	Like, keep mine.
	Hyphenated.
	Because I like my last name.
	I like my last name.
	And also, just, I don't know.
	It's just like your culture.
	So you guys do that too, right?
	Yeah, like in Hispanic culture.
	They usually do that?
	Yeah, they usually have like that.
	That might be common.
	Are you Afro-Cuban or what?
	Oh, I'm mint, so I have a lot going on.
	So on my mom's side, it's Italian, Irish-German.
	Then my dad's side is like Creole, so it's black, but then it has like Mexican.
	Just gotcha.
	Yeah.
	See a lot.
	What about your kids?
	Will they have your husband's last name?
	More than likely.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But nobody else wants to like hyphenate or no.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Actually, there's nothing really there then.
	I would say, at least to you, though, it kind of muddies the water a little bit just because you said I understand culturally with like more like Latino, Latina, Hispanic culture.
	I guess it's kind of common.
	I'm really not.
	I don't know.
	It's more common.
	Do we have any Latinos in the chat who can help me figure this out?
	I guess it's a thing.
	If it is culturally more common, I guess whatever.
	Although you do live in the United States, so I think at least in the United States, I don't know if like among like, for example, Mexican immigrants, legal immigrants to the United States, if they're doing the shared last name thing, I don't know.
	And I imagine it differs, you know, there's so many like Latin American countries.
	There's Puerto Rico, there's the Caribbean.
	So, yeah, anyways, whatever.
	I don't know.
	Somebody said it's only, is it only a Mexican thing?
	Like, what about in like Costa Rica or Panama or Peru or Argentina?
	I don't know.
	Do they do the multiple last names thing?
	Or I don't know.
	Okay.
	Did you did this one here?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I didn't ask the second part.
	Okay.
	I'll get to that then.
	Oh, did you just do this one, the rejected because of her weight?
	A woman should not.
	Oh, wow.
	Wait, you got to 15?
	You did the...
	No.
	Oh, wait.
	I thought you just did the firearm one.
	Yeah, so 15 would be my next one.
	Oh, gotcha.
	Okay.
	So a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	You agree.
	Anybody else on that?
	We just kind of talked about how you can't force attraction.
	Yeah, we went over it.
	Okay.
	Didn't you say you would only date a guy who's six feet, six foot one?
	I would prefer a guy who's over six feet.
	Like, I've dated shorter, but it's just I want to be able to wear heels around my man.
	Yeah, and your body type, you're very thin, but like long, so that makes sense.
	Yeah, like lengthy.
	Like, I just want someone I can wear heels around.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But so my ex-wrong to reject a woman because of her weight?
	Like if she's overweight, is it wrong to reject her?
	I don't think it's wrong to reject her.
	But you said the woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	I said she should not, but that would be his preference.
	We talked about it.
	She misunderstood.
	She was like.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Did anybody go in on this one, 13?
	No, I don't think so.
	Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for some.
	Yeah.
	They're all fine with it.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't know if you answered that.
	We were agreeing too much.
	But yeah, yeah, definitely.
	If you're in a long dry spell, there's something wrong.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Rock and roll.
	Really quick on the minimum yearly income.
	You said $300,000.
	It seems like nobody, was there any higher?
	Like, why was that the highest?
	$300,000.
	I mean, it's not crazy.
	It's not even a million.
	But would you date a guy who like $200K?
	that's fine it's not like 100k and up really i mean nobody's gonna say no 300 I almost let's do the calculator really quick.
	We don't do the calculator very often.
	We'll do the calculator super quick.
	We're going to see how many men there are out there that meet your criteria.
	I've done this.
	All right.
	Scroll down.
	I've done this, and I'm at like six.
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Okay, age of men you're rolling today.
	That's great.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, the unwillingness.
	Yeah, cut off at 40.
	Yeah, so that's even kind of older.
	Minimum?
	Minimum 20.
	23.
	21.
	You'll date.
	21.
	You'll date.
	How old are you again?
	27.
	Cougar over here.
	Not that bad.
	So, okay, 21 to 40.
	And do you want to exclude men who are married?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	I don't know why that's such a dangerous thing.
	Just get rid of that.
	There are a lot of people out there that think that's hot, and that's just disgusting.
	Okay, race.
	Doesn't matter.
	Any color or shade?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Minimum height.
	Let's, I think, was it 6'1 or 6'?
	6' Okay, 6' exclude obese.
	Yeah.
	Yes, perfect.
	Minimum income, 300K.
	All right.
	All right, find out.
	Probability, your ideal man.
	0.048.
	No.
	Ah, shit.
	I'm going to pull it back up.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	How do you feel about that?
	I mean, I feel like, am I being that unrealistic?
	Like, I live in LA.
	The men I've dated have had money.
	They've been well off.
	They have like great homes, lifestyles.
	So if they're not making that much, that's what I'm thinking they're making or what they're saying.
	They're making over 200.
	It's factoring in the entire U.S.
	So the proportion of men who are six feet and fall into this age range and that make $300,000.
	I mean, the height and the $300,000 is going to be the primary limiting thing here in terms of probability.
	I don't belong on this planet.
	No shit.
	What's that?
	I want to do it.
	You want to do it?
	Yeah.
	Maybe next time.
	Remind me, though, Felicity.
	We'll do it.
	We'll do it.
	Okay, so there's that.
	And then there's a couple people on the bear, right?
	It was just.
	Any crazy height requirements?
	It was just six enough.
	That was the highest we got.
	Bear, who picked bear?
	We both said bear.
	Into the mic, please.
	I'm sorry.
	We both said man or bear.
	We weren't.
	So it depends.
	Yeah, I said like bear only because, but that's on me because of past experiences.
	I want it to be man, and I'm working on that.
	I'm healing myself.
	So you think that like the man would harm you?
	I just, a lot of times, like even just meeting a guy, like I need to keep my distance naturally.
	And like I said, I didn't even notice I did any of this until this year.
	Okay.
	So I'm trying to not be like that.
	And to give everyone a chance.
	And then she picked Bear too?
	No, I picked man, but I said I'm afraid of neither.
	I've run into bear and man.
	I'll just skip, push back on the bear for tonight.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	And then there was a disagreement from Paige.
	You said you think anyone can be redeemed, even if they have a high body count.
	Women and men should be equal always, but that doesn't mean things should be made easier.
	Yeah, like I just don't think that like if something's hard even for a man to do, it should it's gonna be extra hard for a woman.
	You don't make it less hard just because she's a woman.
	Okay.
	I think I see what you're saying there.
	But then you think anyone can be redeemed even if they have a high body count?
	I do.
	I think if they have a high body count and then they're actively trying and they're actively living a life where they're not sleeping around and they're in a committed relationship and their track record is good, then yeah, that sounds like they are redeemed.
	Okay, I have a thought on that, but I need to.
	Hmm.
	I mean, actually, I have to wait and make my argument on this.
	I need the full panel.
	I need the full table here.
	Okay.
	Hold on, let me check if we have.
	No, we're good.
	I'll get into some show notes then.
	So going to.
	Actually, I want to do a fun segment, I guess, because it was kind of heated at the beginning.
	Would it, is it a deal breaker if a guy has softer hands than you?
	What?
	I have to say yes as a mechanic.
	Like, if a guy has soft hands, is it softer than yours even?
	Is it kind of a turn off?
	Is it, you know?
	A little bit.
	Okay.
	Not a deal breaker, though.
	My husband's a construction worker, so like his hands haven't been soft in eight years.
	I like it when a guy comes back with like dirty hands from like working on something.
	I don't know why.
	But mine are dirty too.
	Because I don't know if I genetically, if there's something wrong with me or whatever, but I have, by the way, I'm 36.
	I'm 36.
	I have really almost freakishly soft hands.
	No, I want to touch it.
	This isn't like, this isn't some like invitation.
	You get clammy hands.
	That could be it.
	Maybe sometimes, but what, you're talking like natural moisturizing?
	You use a lot of lotion.
	No, I don't.
	I don't even use lotion.
	I don't use lotion.
	None of that shit.
	But what was that?
	Shit, what was I saying?
	And the air's dry out here, so that's weird.
	No, it's not.
	Not for a while.
	Oh, okay, sorry.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, this isn't someone.
	This is not a ploy to get you guys to touch my hand.
	I'll do it.
	We're right now already.
	Just as a fun segment, this is like.
	You're going to come around and let us touch them?
	Okay.
	Oh, they're very soft.
	His hands are so soft.
	Are they little?
	These are like little baby girl hands.
	Are they smaller than mine?
	I have a two-year-old.
	Let me feel it.
	Oh, gosh.
	Here.
	I have a two-year-old.
	Let me feel it.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Very impressive.
	Can I get some hands sanitizer?
	Example.
	She wants to feel.
	If they were warm, they would feel like a baby's.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can do it.
	With the top, too.
	They're pretty soft.
	His hands are like a little bit of a smaller.
	It's like very nice.
	Very smooth.
	It depends on the head.
	I gotta wash my hands though.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So is this a deal breaker, though?
	If a guy has soft hands like that, like podcaster Brian hands.
	Has he ever mowed a lawn?
	No.
	It wasn't that creepy.
	Can you fix things, Brian?
	No.
	Yeah.
	It's about the grip.
	It's just tech things.
	He's not out there like changing an oil.
	Yeah, I don't think I could see that for Brian.
	Yeah, I know.
	But like, so say it was a guy that you were interested in.
	Is that like a deal breaker?
	His hands are soft.
	I've never dated a guy with really soft hands, but I would.
	I mean, it's not a deal breaker.
	Unless he shakes your hand like a dead fish, then it's not a problem.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's like the worst thing ever.
	Do you guys prefer it when a guy gives you like a strong grippy handshake or like when he like shakes your hand little princess?
	I like him, but I like soft, like lose your hand.
	Like That no, I don't know.
	I've always seen more of a firm handshake as a sign of respect.
	That's always what my grandpa taught me.
	And like, I shook a pastor's hand once it was my grandpa's pastor, and it was literally like a dead fish.
	And I was like, Yeah, that's the worst stress.
	I just felt like disrespected in his life.
	Wait, question for the women here who are wearing glasses.
	Are they all prescription?
	Yes, yes.
	Prescription.
	So you guys would be blind without them?
	No, I should have got mine.
	There's a whole row.
	No, it's okay.
	Somewhere in contact.
	Blurry for sure.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	You know, what was I saying?
	You're soft.
	I've had like a girl be like, whoa, your hands are really soft.
	And I'm like, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
	I think like a lot of no-go's, like, if you found out after you started dating them, like, you would just let it go, you know?
	Well, she asked, can you mow a lawn?
	Yeah.
	I've no idea.
	Has Brian ever mowed a lawn?
	Like, you know, it's a fair question.
	I mowed a lawn.
	Toilet plunger.
	Could you change your car's oil?
	Could I change my lawn?
	I would bet on this.
	No.
	No.
	It's not that hard.
	I'm sure I could figure it out, but I just could figure it out.
	I just go.
	Probably be bad.
	I can help you.
	I can show you.
	I can help him.
	Depending on what kind of car.
	I always get flack for some of this stuff.
	And some people are like, look, obviously, you know, life skills, whatever.
	It's like, look, humans have become like specialized.
	And like, we have our specialties, you know.
	Okay, I'm just coping.
	I guess that's.
	Have you seen the latest South Park episode?
	It's literally about this.
	It's hilarious.
	So instead of like there being people like Latina and Hispanic people wanting jobs at Home Depot, it's actually all these white men who went to college looking for people to help fix their house because all the handymen are so rich now because nobody can do it.
	Nice.
	Yep.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	I'm trying to remember what.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	I don't know if it's a good thing.
	I don't know if it's a bad thing, but it's not a you were talking about a girl who something because of your self-tax.
	Oh, yeah.
	Girls have like mentioned it.
	I mean, it hasn't been an issue.
	Like they're not like, ugh.
	They're not like, ugh.
	They'd probably like it if you touched them with those soft hands.
	Yep.
	If I saw, if I met a guy with soft hands like that, I'd be like, I'm going to change that.
	I'm going to put you to work.
	Yes, exactly.
	Rough hands tell character.
	That's what she said.
	But I used to, I don't know.
	So I used to.
	We took a while.
	Where were we?
	I think there's glue that you can get to make your hands rougher.
	Nah, I'm not going to like that.
	Rough hands.
	Fake it.
	You can't fake that shit.
	You got to just, you know.
	Pick up a shovel.
	Yeah, somebody's going to be.
	It'll lift weights.
	Yeah.
	So, yes, the past should not matter related to your disagreement.
	Women can be redeemed.
	It seems past should not matter.
	A quote I really like is like, every saint has a past, every sinner has a future, as long as you're growing and trying to be better.
	I do like that.
	I do, especially.
	I wish it was mine, especially.
	So I guess going around the table on that, body count should matter, shouldn't matter, whatever it is.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, I'm not saying that.
	Give us a range.
	Throw us a range.
	Who's going to be a good sport really quick?
	Who's going to be a good sport?
	Good sport?
	Mine's probably higher than yours.
	Good sport.
	Less than five.
	Twelve.
	Twelve?
	One of them was not consensual.
	That doesn't count.
	It doesn't count.
	Okay, so one.
	Okay.
	Not saying.
	Range?
	I said mine.
	So you can do.
	Did you have you lost track?
	Is that it?
	No, I've never lost track.
	Have you forgotten?
	Not forgotten.
	Didn't keep track.
	No, just not saying.
	He's never going to let it go.
	I've seen this before.
	You've seen it before.
	I literally move on within like 20 seconds, but um do you want to do a range like it's between this and this instead of like an exact number?
	I'd rather not 50, definitely never go ahead.
	One okay to the husband.
	I also choose not to say sorry.
	Brianna, can you do a range?
	Can you give us a range?
	No range, no range.
	Did you lose track?
	No, 35.
	Never had a boyfriend.
	Hold on, let me do some guy.
	Whoa, oh my gosh.
	Never had 35, never had a relationship longer than a couple months.
	Have you waited?
	Have you even had a boyfriend?
	I mean yeah, but I was saying that I wouldn't like say that those are successful relationships.
	Well, you said they were like a couple months, like sounding successful.
	You haven't had a long-term relationship, haven't had like a long-lasting good.
	You haven't had a relationship last longer than six months.
	I don't like judgy at all, but do you think maybe if you held out a little longer, that maybe?
	Well, she's not revealing, no matter what's, still fun.
	No, I mean there's been different scenarios where like, maybe if I did stick around, but then it, it just didn't turn out so well, so it's okay.
	Okay, is it less than 20?
	I'm not gonna say Brian okay, so it's more than 20, got it?
	What about you zero?
	What about you one?
	okay for us two all right uh that's cool you get the back question like how old were you that's the real number okay that's not true though that multiplied by three like it's it's that's not true well thank you for sharing that actually that was the quickest answer she gave so we should believe it right yeah yeah yeah we can do that it was the highest one thank you appreciate your input so 17 15 16
	not applicable 15 16 22 what are we age you lost your virginity oh 16.
	um i was 18 i think i was almost 21 because i thought i would be waiting till marriage but okay 15.
	There.
	It is good good shit good, i'm scared.
	I have a teenage daughter.
	Where can I lock her up?
	You just gotta let her live her life.
	No, you can definitely, you know, make your house like a prison.
	Basically yeah, sounds good.
	How old's your daughter?
	12 or something.
	Yeah, oh yeah, be careful.
	Public schools yikes the bus.
	I learned everything on the bus for sure.
	Send her to an all-girls school.
	Oh, I would love one.
	I need that.
	I think actually, girls would be smarter and even boys would be smarter if we still have a school.
	They still find their way to boys.
	They still find their way.
	Yep, especially with social media too.
	Oh yeah, that's why my daughter doesn't have a smartphone.
	Oh, that's good, and i'm the crazy parent because i'm the only one trying to protect.
	You're the good parent.
	Oh, my gosh, I don't snapchat for the first time ever, and I was like, my children will never have this.
	Nope yeah, I think if you're just open with her and you're not like too restricted, you let her know the reasons why, like you lay it down, like because of like stds, because of this, because of pregnancy like, let her know, those things make her scared you're trying to protect her from.
	I hate the people that are like don't make them scared, like they don't have like adults.
	They are not freaking adults.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	We have a couple more things from the questionnaire, although most of you actually haven't didn't really circle much on the questionnaire there.
	So we are going to agreeing to Master J. Like we're to well, we'll get to that.
	We'll get to that, but I'm sure we'll have more disagreements.
	So let's do this.
	Women are the primary victims of war, not men.
	Victoria, you circled that one.
	Just want to confirm you do agree with that.
	Yeah, I think that women do suffer the aftermath of war.
	More so than men?
	Yes.
	It's worse just be left here.
	If you die, you will just die there, but you will leave everybody to take care of your family and to miss you.
	But still, I think primarily the guy is the one who sacrifices his life.
	What about all the men who come back?
	For men to go out and.
	No, actually, no, that is a very good point.
	The veterans, I have the most respect for them, especially as my father himself, he was in the military, Marines.
	So I would actually like to change my answer on that.
	I do think that men suffer a lot from war.
	Do they suffer more than women?
	Yes.
	Okay, well.
	I mean, you've already changed your opinion there.
	So, I mean, not much pushback I can give.
	We have some chats coming through.
	Adzil's donated $200.
	Would you rather listen to Michael Jackson in the woods with a man or bear?
	Brian can do the moon walk, so he would take his chances.
	Hashtag free felicity, hashtag free nick, hashtag Michael is king.
	Yo, Adzils, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I would rather listen to, yeah, I'd rather listen to MJ with a man.
	With a man, for sure.
	It's like, what is Michael Jackson, you know, like the snake charmers with the flutes?
	Like, you put on some MJ and the bears just like yogi bear, just fucking dance in, like, fucking crip walk in with you while you're, you know, fucking listening to MJ or some shit.
	Oh, my God.
	You know, it lulls them to sleep.
	Well, like the.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What's snake charmers?
	Or what's the term for like the flute or the little viper?
	There's like a term for a beast, and you pacify them through music, but there's a term for it.
	Does anybody know what the term is?
	Chat?
	I don't think the girls are going to help me, so chat.
	I was totally zoned out.
	A term for pacifying a beast with music.
	What is the term?
	Whisperer?
	No, that's not it.
	It's not whisper.
	To tame sue the savage beast.
	Oh, like a whatever.
	I don't know.
	Thank you for that, Adzils.
	Appreciate it.
	There's definitely a term.
	Is Adzils the Michael Jackson guy?
	Or is that somebody else?
	It's Adzils.
	He's the MJ guy.
	What MJ guy?
	Every episode, he invokes Michael Jackson for some reason.
	He wants to see the moon rock, and you haven't done it for him.
	Michael Jackson TTS.
	Get on the shop.
	I'm going to do the, the, like, pitched, hey, hey.
	All right, send another TTS for that one.
	I pre-charged you, I guess.
	Technotrooper, if the economy can furlough.
	Wait, who's that guy from way back who always brought up perpees?
	What was that guy's name?
	Do you remember that guy's name, Nick?
	Jay Butler.
	Right?
	He always, every TTS was about herpes.
	You're new, you're uh, so Adzils, you're the new Jay Butler.
	If the economy can furlough a million people overnight, I'll pull it back up.
	What makes you believe any partner will just provide without you contributing equal strength?
	Okay.
	We'll just provide.
	That's like not even a question.
	What does that mean when you say equal strength, though?
	What did equal strength?
	So, like, women equal strength.
	What are you talking about?
	Like, are we supposed to be buffed?
	Like, what?
	I think he means like he wants the woman to do the cooking, cleaning, taking care of children while the man is working, making the money.
	I don't know.
	I think that's what that's, I think that's what that meant.
	That's my interpretation.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I'm not sure, honestly.
	I wish I could read our.
	Clarify techno-trooper.
	Clarify a techno-trooper.
	Well, I'm saying it verbally, so I guess you can just listen with your earballs.
	You?
	Well, I'm just kidding.
	That was so funny.
	Good one.
	Okay, guys.
	Good job.
	Proud of you.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I want to.
	What were we talking about earlier about the humor or whatever?
	You're bringing up the humor.
	Yeah, why would you bring that up again?
	Come on.
	Because he doesn't, he's not funny.
	He doesn't want us to like funny guys.
	Sorry.
	Oh.
	See, that was funny.
	It actually, like, just wasn't.
	It wasn't.
	It wasn't funny.
	Also, not to toot my own horn, but I think I'm.
	You think you're funny?
	Yeah, I'm definitely.
	Are you?
	I'm definitely funny.
	Oh, okay, Miss Monotone over here who hasn't cracked.
	Oh, you haven't cracked one joke the entire fucking night.
	I'm nervous.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, great.
	You're nervous in a relationship and you're not going to fucking ever crack a joke until after you've been dating a guy.
	Oh, he's got to wait for your humor for six months.
	What?
	What?
	No.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Adzil's donated $200.
	Sh Butler is a legend.
	He will be back hopefully.
	Nick, can we get a hee-hee?
	Oh.
	A tee hee?
	No.
	That was like half.
	That was like half.
	I gave him fucking half right there.
	She.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah, true.
	All right.
	Let's see if there's anything else in the questionnaire here that's intriguing to me.
	Yes, they can.
	Yes, they can.
	Men are more privileged in society than women, says Paige.
	Why is that?
	I guess I don't know.
	From what I've been through, like, men sometimes don't listen to women, I think, until the women, like, make their point really clear or like have to speak up and be like, hey, listen to me.
	You know, I think men just overall, you know, people see a man talking and they listen compared to a woman.
	Is that like overarching privilege and totality?
	No.
	Well, also, too, I just, you know, men are respected more.
	Men are treated better overall.
	Are they?
	Well, I think they were.
	I think more is expected out of them and now they are seen to like for a man, it is expected that he has all of these things.
	It's expected he has a good job.
	He's patient.
	He's hardworking.
	He's fit.
	So yeah, so it's changed.
	I've been out of the dating scene.
	Like we met before Tinder even existed.
	So, you know?
	Okay, so I'm open to that.
	Yeah, but I can definitely see where you're coming from with that.
	Yeah, it's very apparent.
	Yeah, and like I'm already short, so they're already looking down on me, and I'm like, hello, listen to me, you know?
	I mean, if I had pink hair too, though, I feel like I would be less respected.
	What?
	This is my superhero hair.
	That's what my kids are saying.
	I think, look, and you seem more conservative and kind of reasonable.
	But I think people will make it.
	People read a judge a book by its cover.
	They do.
	They absolutely do.
	No offense.
	I mean, I saw your pre-show notes.
	You know, you have a very successful relationship.
	Well, you're married.
	And you have kids.
	You married.
	You were virgins.
	I mean, we absolutely are in love.
	I did have a, you wrote a couple things in your pre-show notes where I talked about it.
	I'll talk about anything.
	I did want to nitpick a little bit, but you're kind of conservative, right?
	Like politically, not so much.
	Oh, are you more liberal?
	I used to be a registered Democrat until recently.
	Oh, okay.
	Now what are you?
	I am an independent.
	Okay, that's better than Mom Dami.
	You don't seem like you're a crazy, woke SJW feminist lady.
	No, I just used to be very like, I am woman, hear me roar.
	And then I learned over time that that kind of sucks.
	Mamdani is running for Governor.
	Good for you.
	He's a piece of liberal.
	He's a lot of liberals like him.
	Yeah, just, I guess.
	She was explaining who Mom Doni was as a socialist in New York.
	I don't currently live in the city.
	But I am originally from the city.
	But besides, like, you assert that men are more respected than women.
	Men have more privilege than women.
	Aside from like your perception that men receive more respect, is there anything else when it comes to privilege?
	I think men are just taken more seriously.
	Like in my circle, because a lot of the men are married and in the church circle too, like a lot of times women want to speak up and they don't always get to.
	Well, what church are you going to?
	I am a non-denominational.
	Like I said, this is actually theologically coherent because women can't be priests.
	I'm not saying to be pastors or priests, but like even just like in the circle, like after service or like even just out in the community, like where I live now, it's pretty rural.
	So like, it's like men just don't take women seriously.
	It could be the pink hair, but.
	Well, I mean, look, from a religious perspective, and look, I'm not an expert in theology, but my understanding is there's biblical scripture.
	Women are to be quiet in church.
	So if you're in a biblical marriage, in a biblical relationship, yeah, you're not supposed to be telling the men what to do.
	I will say I am.
	You need to defer to the men.
	I used to be, like I said, a she-woman, hear me, roar.
	And I have, I recently was disabled and I was diagnosed with angylosing spondylitis.
	It's been really devastating.
	And it actually put me into this female role for the first time in my life.
	And I actually am like, wow, kind of almost thankful for getting sick.
	I know that sounds awful, but like, I'm like, wow, like, I'm actually getting to be a girl for once.
	You know, and I am learning how it is to be in that role.
	It's the best.
	Where before I used to, I used to always, you know, it's probably like I would fight.
	I was angsty and I'd be like, why aren't you talking to me?
	You know?
	Okay.
	But that would be a lot of fun.
	A good men makes you sad.
	I don't know if it's actually the case that women are less respected in society.
	Actually, maybe it's when women are not like, I don't want to say in their place, but like not doing womenly roles, then maybe they're less respected.
	You know, so that might be why I felt less respected.
	I mean, what I see out there, I believe that society is set up in a gynocentric way.
	So society is not, if we're talking about patriarchy, we're getting into these sort of feminist descriptors or whatever.
	I don't think society is set up in a patriarchy.
	And I guess how this would be described as society was built by men for the benefit and comfort and privilege of men.
	I think society, I agree with the first part.
	Society was built by men for the benefit of women.
	All the modern comforts, like I say this frequently on the show, if men could fuck women in a cardboard box, we would.
	But, you know, that's not the case, really.
	Yeah.
	Women want the existence of a certain comfortable material reality.
	And so everything that men do, I honestly think on a micro and macro level is for women.
	Yeah.
	Society has been set up to make things comfortable for women.
	And men have always been, like, if you look at even going back to, you know, ancient history, this idea would be like men would be sort of this defensive barrier to the external threats of like nature or other tribes.
	And women were kept in the interior and kept safe.
	And so men would go out and fight against nature, fight against other tribes, fight against other men, keep the women in the interior, keep them safe.
	And if we're looking at, and you know, this could be a tribe of 300 people.
	When I'm talking interior, it could be a small area of, you know, a couple square miles, even less.
	It could be a small little area.
	And I don't know.
	It's just.
	I will admit, I definitely have a bias, and you're probably going to come at me for saying this, but like I was raised by a single mother for nine years.
	And, you know, she had to be strong, and she was so strong.
	And I admired that in her.
	So I felt like I had to be like that, you know, when I don't need to be like that because thankfully I did meet the right person and things are going really well.
	So, yeah.
	But, you know, this idea that women are taken less seriously or they're less respected, there's a couple things there.
	I think I actually think so.
	Women, so we'll look at both halves of the population, men and women.
	I think women have a really strong in-group bias for women.
	So like there's the sisterhood.
	There's like women have they have an in-group bias for themselves, for other women.
	Men don't have that related to men.
	So men don't have an in-group bias.
	Like if you're analyzing the biases in general, men have a slight out-group bias for women.
	And the statistics and studies play this out.
	But yeah, so men will have slight out-group bias.
	Women have slight or strong in-group bias.
	So this is why actually in some ways women are much seem to be actually better when it comes to organizing amongst themselves for female causes.
	Whereas men don't have like nearly as strong of any sort of foundational base for like male advocacy.
	Like obviously female advocacy, feminism is dominant culturally, whereas like men's advocacy is completely on the fringe and completely just completely oppressed by feminism.
	And too, if men try to stand up for themselves, then it's like, oh no, you're misogynistic.
	But is it here?
	They like to say that.
	At least in Finland, the men will get the race in their workplaces because the guys, when you go to a man and you ask him, like, who's going to get the race, there's always a guy saying, like, oh, Ben is a good guy, give it to him.
	But if you go and talk to a woman, it's always they're putting each other down.
	It's not like, oh, build their woman up in the workplace.
	Yeah, it's always going to be like, oh, not her.
	True.
	I mean, I think it can go both ways in the workplace.
	Google actually just, I'm trying to recall the name of the lawsuit.
	A man filed a lawsuit against Google because he had an anti-discrimination lawsuit because apparently he ended up having a female boss and his the origination of his team was, I think it's Meyer versus Google or something.
	She started like firing or getting rid of all the male team leads and just started hiring women.
	And he, the lawsuit's super robust.
	There's plenty there's actually plenty of evidence that there's anti-male discrimination, at least in his team at Google.
	Google did this, that's more recent lawsuit.
	There was one from a couple years ago where Google did like some self-analysis of, they were trying to investigate, oh, well, are we, is there a wage gap here?
	They actually found that they were overpaying the women at Google, major corporation.
	So I don't know, this idea that men get promoted, they're more likely to be promoted.
	I don't know.
	Not that, but other men will always put other men up, but women will put each other down.
	I don't know if that's true.
	Do you think the Google thing is like a one-time, like a one-instance thing, or you think it's going to be more prevalent or it's going to come out more?
	I think a lot of major corporations feminism has infiltrated.
	Some of them have walked some of this back, but all the DEI bullshit.
	Like all these companies, all the major corporations had DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, or whatever.
	There are massive, massive hiring incentives.
	Let's bring in women.
	Let's do affirmative action to put in more, get diversity hires, put in women.
	And actually, it's funny.
	All this DEI shit is mostly for white women.
	It wasn't like brown men.
	It wasn't brown women.
	It was for fucking white women.
	I think that is a great example why men should mostly lead because women are, is it what's the word when you're you plan things to get the worst outcome?
	You're like sneaky.
	You mean vindictive?
	That's what's the word.
	But men are really like straight word, straightforward with everything.
	They say mostly what they think.
	Yeah.
	I'll say my best friend in the whole wide world is a male and I plan on keeping it that way.
	Same.
	So and it's not my husband.
	My husband, he's my best friend too.
	I mean, I look, there's, I'll do the sort of charitable thing here and say that like men definitely play office politics too.
	But, you know, I think there are obviously some differences between how men and women communicate.
	I think women, not all women, women can definitely do this sort of like vendetta shit.
	Like, I think men oftentimes tend to be less likely to hold grudges.
	Whereas like if you slide a woman, that shit's for life, son.
	That's some beef.
	It's forever.
	I thought always that it's the other way around.
	I thought that men will, like, they won't tell it to you, but if somebody does something bad to you, you will freaking remember it to your grave.
	I mean, obviously, there's a lot of variants, but I think women will resort.
	They will use more energy to put you down and do shit to you if you do something bad.
	Well, I think, and this is, I think there's actually studies to back this up.
	Women are more likely to engage in reputation destruction.
	So, women will do gossip, women will do slander, women will like try to, you know, verbally ruin you.
	They'll try to verbally throw you under the bus.
	Again, I'm not saying all women do this, but it's a more common tactic that women will resort to.
	They'll try to ruin.
	They'll try to ruin another woman's reputation.
	They'll try to ruin a man's reputation.
	They'll gossip.
	More common among women.
	Men can do it too, I guess.
	But just to finish off this point, you're saying that women aren't respected, right?
	They're not taking it seriously.
	I don't know.
	Like, I really am not sure if that's the case.
	I think that, at least in terms of the treatment that women direct towards men, I think at no other point in human history have women enjoyed so much freedom, so much rights, so much privilege, so much comfort.
	Technologically, we really do live at the best time, you know, best health care, best, I was going to say best food, but some people might.
	The best food option, anyways.
	You can have, if you want, you can go on DoorDash and order every single kind of different culinary genre and have it all delivered to you in 10 minutes.
	I mean, we live in quite the time.
	But all of those things I listed, you know, women having the most rights, the most comfort, most free, more freedom than at any other point of human history, much of which, or almost all of which, I would say is a direct result of male benevolence, ingenuity, labor, and genius.
	And simultaneously, though, at no other point in human history have women had so much hate, spite, contempt, and disrespect, and ungratefulness towards men as today.
	So it's this, it's it's it's odd to me though, but it's like, again, women have more freedoms, more rights, more privileges, more comfort than at any other time in human history.
	But at no other time in human history have women hate men more than they've ever hated men.
	Women are ungrateful, they're disrespectful, and it's kind of this interesting dichotomy.
	It's because of the rise of feminism and the lack of God in people.
	And I was so pleasantly surprised that all of you are Christians.
	I don't know if every single one of you, but I'm absolutely shocked.
	I mean, she is.
	I'm not exactly really.
	Well, she is.
	You're a Christian.
	You're a Christian.
	I mean, amazing.
	Amazing.
	Oh my gosh, a lot of faith in this room, and I love it.
	But I did want to argue with somebody, so I'm a little disappointed.
	Y'all are all easy to argue.
	I'll argue then, I guess.
	But I guess moving on to the next one.
	I guess.
	Let's talk about politics.
	Yeah, let's fight.
	That's why you're political.
	I think there was one more here from the questionnaire, then I'll get into it.
	I know you guys had some disagreements.
	We'll dive into those.
	The final thing from the questionnaire here was wrong for high body count men to prefer to date low body count virgin women.
	That was from you.
	I said it was wrong.
	Oh, it is from Victoria.
	Actually, I did want to finish off.
	You said women can be redeemed, right?
	Even if they've been.
	Men can too.
	Yeah, so I mean, I don't know where we disagree or agree on this.
	My position is, yeah, I mean, are you looking at it from a religious perspective?
	No, I don't think you have to be born again or saved, but I think, like, let's say you really got around when you were younger, but it's been 10 years and you haven't dated, you haven't slept around.
	Like, that's a really big change.
	You don't just go backwards.
	Yeah, so, I mean, you've obviously, I assume, put in some work there.
	You've changed your behavior.
	However, even if it's been 10 years, I don't think a man is then obligated.
	Oh, absolutely not.
	No.
	I think a man could still be within his right to say, ooh, okay, between the age of 18 and 20, you done fucked 50 guys, but you've been, shit, you've been celibate for 10 years?
	I think a guy is still within his right.
	I don't think anybody has to date anybody for any reason.
	But I think it's a, it would, I think certain preferences can be realistic, unrealistic.
	My position would be you might say, well, look, she's been celibate for 10 years.
	I think it's still realistic as a guy if a woman fucked 50 dudes in her freshman, first freshman year of college, he can still be like, nah.
	No, yeah.
	Not.
	Why do you want to know?
	What do you mean?
	I think it's important to know.
	Like, if it comes out later in the relationship, like I think I said earlier, it's going to be bad.
	And you have a right to know that the person was promiscuous.
	You might, yeah, there were promiscuous relationships.
	A lot comes with that.
	Especially when you're waiting until marriage, I understand it.
	But on the other hand.
	Wait, you're Christian?
	Yeah.
	Just messianic Christian.
	Yeah.
	What denomina?
	Do you go to church?
	Yeah, not regularly.
	I should, but yeah.
	You're wearing a Playboy.
	I actually, I was a weird child because everybody else wanted to be Prince Disease and pop stars.
	I wanted to be a Playmate and I wanted to be Sinon.
	But let me just put, yeah, Playboy.
	I don't know.
	You don't know what's going on.
	I don't see nudity as like porn is a different thing.
	Playboy wasn't that before.
	Hold on.
	Playboy's been a nude.
	Hold on.
	What?
	It's been a nude magazine for a long time.
	It's still like a nude pornographic entity.
	I don't like the pornographic facts about it, but when you're- You read that shit for the articles?
	Okay.
	Yeah, you did before, like earlier.
	Rewatched all the documentaries that have come out since he died.
	Christians cannot be in line with a pornographic commercial entity.
	They're completely conflicting.
	I think you are giving your money to it.
	You've had OnlyFans girls on here that said they were Christians.
	Yeah, that's retarded.
	But I think it's more.
	She's just wearing a Playboy sweatshirt.
	No, but you can't.
	You can't.
	That was actually gifted to me.
	But still, I think it's more of the idea because when I used to look at Playboy girls and think they were cool, it was, I was so young, it wasn't like because of the fact they were doing adult things.
	It was more of like I wanted to be Pamela Anderson.
	I loved her.
	Okay.
	You wanted to fuck a guy with hepatitis?
	Totally different thing.
	I haven't seen that.
	You said you wanted to be fucking Pamela Anderson.
	She fucked Tommy.
	Does he have hepatitis?
	Tommy?
	No, no.
	But you've heard her story.
	And it's actually when you think about it as an adult, it's really sad.
	He was played for sure.
	It was literally really sad.
	She just wanted to find love and she was just a blue-eyed girl who was really young, got the fame and everything.
	So she goes and dates a man who is, by the way, well known, notorious for being a playboy.
	She fell in love with her.
	Oh, she fell in love with a guy who was blasted in tattoos and was in the heavy metal.
	He was in Motley Crew.
	These guys were definitely, they were definitely known for getting around.
	It's also the reason why I think men should lead because women, we have emotions and we go by them.
	Pamela Anderson was not naive to the fact that Tom, oh my, come on.
	He was in the community.
	Let's say I can put myself into her shoes and feel empathy towards her and what she was going through.
	Okay, what about it?
	What about it?
	I don't know what's your point about the empathy or about Pamela Anderson or about Playboy.
	What do you mean?
	No, I'm just, look, I guess my confusion here is Christian, but like repping Playboy.
	Like it'd be like, I'm a Christian, but check out my Quran.
	Like it doesn't make sense.
	No, not the same thing.
	I have vintage Playboy magazines and I'm a Christian.
	Does that make me not a Christian?
	It's because I am holding on to something that isn't.
	Do you like look at the pornographic content?
	No, actually, I look at some of the articles.
	It's fun because it's vintage and I love reading and looking at the what denomination Christian are you?
	Do you go to church?
	Sometimes.
	What?
	You don't even know your denomination?
	What's your denomination?
	I don't know my denomination.
	I'm not identified.
	Well, it does say like biblically obvious that you're a Christian.
	So sometimes wearing that kind of stuff, it's not so obvious, you know?
	I don't judge people.
	The only one that can judge is God.
	Exactly.
	That's not true.
	Wait, hold on.
	Doesn't that matter?
	It should be true.
	We're human.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Look, I'm not like a religious theological guy, but I don't know if it's Jesus or like a scripture.
	Doesn't it command you to have righteous judgment?
	Yes, it's not a problem.
	I don't need it.
	On other Christians, on other Christians.
	We're supposed to talk the truth.
	On anybody?
	No.
	So if somebody is like an outsider, they're not Christian.
	You're supposed to have a lot more love and patience with them because they don't know what they're doing.
	They haven't read the Bible.
	They don't claim to be Christian.
	They're not claiming to be something they're not.
	But when you are a Christian and you see your brother or sister in Christ doing something that they shouldn't be, you are supposed to come with them, come to them lovingly, kindly, and just share what you believe is the truth.
	Wait, hold on.
	Didn't Jesus fucking throw over the table?
	Did they have a whip or something?
	I don't know what exact details.
	Like the money lenders or something.
	I don't know the details.
	Look, I'm not, I don't know all the details.
	If they refuse to turn away from the sin, then yeah, you're supposed to come at them.
	I love Bonnie XOs.
	He's done other stuff and he is a Christian.
	Look, I honestly, if a girl wears a Playboy sweater, I don't, hoodie, I don't really care.
	But if you tell me you're a Christian, then I'm kind of like, wait, that's kind of confusing.
	Does that make sense?
	I get it, but on the other hand, no, it doesn't make sense.
	Playboy is a pornographic commercial entity.
	Yeah, on that hat, it makes sense.
	But there's a reason why, I'm sorry.
	But there's a reason why, you know, all Christians, they always say this one thing.
	They say, forgive them, Father, for they don't know.
	I don't blame you for wearing that.
	I know that I myself, I'm a sinner.
	I do a lot of things I shouldn't be doing.
	You know, I think we as Christians also need to be striving to be better and closer to God and love God more than our sin.
	Is this wearing this necessarily a sin?
	No.
	There are far worse.
	I mean, there's people shooting and killing each other out there.
	But I think what everyone is just trying to tell you is that it is the first step is awareness.
	Because if we let ourselves get by with small little things, eventually it's going to grow and grow and grow.
	Am I going to say that?
	Am I saying that you're going to go out and do something really, really dumb?
	No.
	But I think it's just more of the accountability in this sense.
	But it's a cool sweatshirt.
	It's super minor.
	Look, it's super minor.
	It is super minor, but it did catch my attention.
	It's a little bit.
	But I kind of like to think about things in a way like Jesus said that children come to me because the kingdom of heaven is like them.
	You show this to a child and they will just see a cute bunny.
	I would get it if I would go around with a pussy on my shirt, but that's like a different thing.
	I think I'd have a bigger problem if you bought it because then you're giving money to that.
	Adults know what you're signaling.
	And so it wouldn't be strictly restricted to the interpretation of what, yeah, I agree.
	A child probably isn't familiar with the logo of Playboy, but there's other people in the world that aren't children that are going to make an assessment of what you're wearing.
	Honestly, it's really true.
	But then I have like many other things of it.
	I used to love the logo even as a kid.
	I don't blame.
	It's a cute freaking bunny.
	How about this?
	But afterwards.
	A Christian girl who has a Playboy Bunny tattoo.
	Yeah.
	That's confusing.
	Actually, no one.
	But yeah, it's true.
	It's true.
	A girl who has like a she has a necklace, but she's a Christian, but she's got a Playboy Bunny necklace.
	I have tattoos.
	Even that is a problem, to be honest, like as a Christian.
	Perhaps, but I'm just focused on the Playboy bunny thing, you know?
	So you took the one that I can take it off and get rid of.
	But the tattoo is not that bad.
	I did a lot of like reading before I got my tattoos because I took it so seriously, and I don't really think tattoos are that bad.
	Just saying.
	Well, I'm not sure if I'm the government of Canada.
	Pasty George donated $200.04.
	Thank you, man.
	To add to what Brian just said, that is why many Western men are seeking traditional, non-feministic women from other countries who are respectful, feminine, and don't have a high body count.
	I think we were talking about finishing up the body count thing.
	Oh, yeah, I think we know we already did.
	I mean, basically, my position is, yeah, the women can definitely redeem themselves, but I don't think men, even if they have redeemed themselves, a man can still look at a woman's past, even if she's completely changed from that past and be like, and that's his choice?
	I don't want anything to do with that.
	I think he should be able to have a chance.
	Wait, you're giving me a look like you disagree.
	No?
	Jesus, now I can't even have a look.
	I can't look.
	I don't know if you agree, you disagree.
	My face is just too expressive.
	Just continue, please.
	So you're fine with my position then?
	Yes, totally.
	I think she can wear.
	I think people can wear whatever the hell they want.
	She doesn't look like a hooker, so I'm fine with it.
	If she was, I would make a different judgment.
	The bunny sweatshirt, you know, I know it's Playboy.
	know what it is but I mean again like I'm it's just something I noticed I agree with you.
	It's pretty minor, but it is.
	But it's important.
	It is a little bit.
	too is another thing it is a little bit like is it in line with christianity Probably not, but whatever.
	It's super minor.
	Like, it's a nitpick.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, we're going to get into, let's see if they're, no, I think.
	You got to nitpick this crew because we're all pretty cool.
	So, so super cool.
	Because we waited a little too long for Nick to let us in, so we got to know each other downstairs.
	Yeah, we all agreed we were going to be really agreeable with each other and you.
	Love it.
	Okay.
	here we're gonna get into some of the pre-show notes here so we are gonna do um actually here let's just do this Asmond Gold TV.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
	You can't pick 7.
	Thank you, Zach.
	Appreciate that.
	Rate your own looks.
	Scale of 1 to 10.
	Can't pick 7.
	10.
	10?
	Okay.
	Tilt your mic down a little bit.
	What about you?
	Six.
	Okay.
	What?
	I think 6.
	There's always room for improvement.
	All right.
	You're a six.
	Go ahead.
	Seven and a half.
	You can't.
	Six or eight.
	If you have to pick one.
	Six.
	Six.
	Okay.
	My husband said on the way here to say solid eight, but I'm going to say five.
	Okay.
	I say five.
	Five.
	Three.
	Oh my gosh.
	Both of you are.
	Just give the same answer.
	Okay, I give myself a five.
	All right.
	Okay, pretty.
	Wow, pretty reasonable.
	Except for you.
	You got to have confidence.
	So, Maria, since we have the most.
	She's literally a model with like campaigns and stuff, though.
	Yep.
	You just got to have confidence.
	Got it.
	Do you think that I've seen models that are not 10?
	Should these women be more confident, Maria?
	Yes.
	They're gorgeous.
	They all have their own attributes.
	Maria.
	Yes.
	What?
	What do you want to go around the table and rate us?
	We're not allowed to do that.
	What are you asking?
	Did I be mad?
	They're all 10.
	I said, no, I mean they're not.
	Do this.
	Just you and me.
	They can go higher than the numbers they said.
	Do this.
	Maria, do this.
	They can go higher.
	Maria.
	You know what they said.
	Maria Gertrude.
	I'm not going to say your last name.
	Gertrude.
	Okay.
	That's your middle name.
	Gertrude.
	Maria Gertrude Smith.
	Do this.
	Okay.
	Put the blinders up.
	Okay.
	You can tell me the truth.
	On who?
	The fucking whole panel.
	The whole panel.
	Tell me the Felicity.
	Fucking whisper.
	Three.
	She said a three.
	I said six.
	Six.
	Still low.
	Okay.
	Well.
	Do you think everybody should just say I'm a 10?
	If they're confident within themselves, why not?
	I'm pretty confident I'm a wait.
	Question.
	I'm sorry.
	Question for you than just Maria.
	No, no, no, you're good.
	That was like one.
	Do you think it, so that's your own rating?
	Do you think it changes like you're in a room with a thousand men?
	What do you think the average would be if they were rating you?
	Typically, I attract from my history all races.
	Like they, they're going to be trying to say the best of the best to get with me.
	So no, but they're not trying to hit.
	Even if they're not, they're still going to probably say eight and up, I would assume.
	But what do you think the average rating would be?
	Eight.
	Okay.
	Eight.
	So less than ten.
	Why is that?
	Why'd you say that?
	I mean, if you're putting me in a room full of like many different people with different cross-section of age and yeah, like there's some black people, some white people.
	Yeah, if they like blondes, that they like different looks, you know?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Does it change?
	Like, let's just say it's, I mean, you brought it about made about race.
	White guys.
	What's the average rating then?
	Versus black guys, I guess.
	I'm curious.
	Do the white guys whatever.
	I'll just.
	I would say it's about, yeah, still the same, like eight.
	Both a white and the Asian guys.
	Yeah.
	How do you do with the Indians, though?
	They would probably say two similar rating because I'm brown.
	Gotcha.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Let's see.
	Tell me, can you tell me a girl that you think is a 10?
	Like a famous girl out there?
	Famous girl right now?
	If you can think of two or three, feel free.
	I mean, like a white girl, a black girl, and a Washington girl, I guess.
	I guess Beyonce, we all know that.
	Sabrina Carpenter.
	Sabrina Carpenter.
	Eh, she had 10.
	Or disagree.
	Disagree.
	Ariana Grande was somewhat before.
	I don't know what's going on now.
	Eyebrow thing, yeah.
	Very skinny.
	Yeah, and the 70-pound body.
	Yeah.
	Before all that.
	I think she's.
	I mean, she's always been pretty trim.
	Oh, yeah.
	She was a tiny girl.
	Yeah.
	She's a petite woman.
	When she was a teenager, she was a little curvy.
	Oh, yeah.
	She did some of the way.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Tell me a guy who's a 10.
	A guy.
	What's his name?
	Denzel?
	No, not Denzel.
	Denzel, what the fuck?
	Taylor Lautner, but who's that other one right now?
	The one off Euphoria, what's his name?
	The guy who plays Nancy's.
	Yeah, Jacob.
	Can you Google these?
	Jacob Alordi.
	Taylor Lautner?
	This girl was a Twilight fan.
	Scroll down.
	That's the first that came to mind.
	That's the first that came to mind.
	Weren't you like 10 when that movie came out?
	Definitely.
	In that range.
	But we all watched.
	Jellil Crush on Taylor.
	Okay.
	It's cute.
	Do you have any of those, Nick?
	Well, I'm not.
	Tall, dark, and handsome.
	Honestly, those are not the most flat.
	Never was.
	Never?
	He never was my guy.
	Of course, Nick wants to look at those shirts, goes straight to it.
	A little sus there, Nick.
	All right, we get the idea.
	Okay.
	And do you think Megan Fox is a 10?
	When she was younger, yeah, yeah, she's gorgeous.
	Okay, so just to be just so I understand correctly, you, Megan Fox, on par.
	Okay.
	Alright, do you think you're, do you think when you say you're 10, are you, are there any women who are more beautiful than you?
	Or are you like, you're at the peak?
	They're at the peak.
	You're just as good looking as I would say, yeah.
	I can, I can stand next to the best.
	Better-looking woman and change my parents' makeup, you know, change hair, like alter things.
	Okay.
	So there's no women in the world that are more beautiful than you.
	No, no.
	Oh, no, I wouldn't say that.
	Who's a woman who's more beautiful than you?
	I don't know.
	Beyonce?
	I mean, she's older now, so like, yeah, as far as in youth right now.
	Was young, I don't know, 20-year-old Beyoncé, Destiny's child, whatever.
	Was she better looking?
	I think I could stand next to her.
	Stand next to me.
	I'm not really a Beyoncé fan, to be honest, so I don't know.
	No.
	But you said there are some women who are more beautiful than you, from your perspective.
	It's just perspective-based, really.
	Who's more beautiful?
	I don't even know.
	It would be girls from other countries.
	Like, maybe like some Brazilian girls.
	Like Adriana Lima.
	Yeah, she's exactly.
	Was she, yes.
	She's gorgeous.
	She's a 10.
	How could you guys be?
	I mean, we look different, though.
	So it's like.
	Yeah, but you say she's better looking than you.
	I mean, in her prime, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, but she was a 10 in her prime?
	Yeah.
	But you're not as good looking as.
	I would say, I mean, you're like 9.9, 9.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	That's just like up to debate.
	And I'm trying to think if there's any other questions on that.
	Hmm.
	Okay, that's pretty much it.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Starting with 37.
	I think I'll look young.
	Will you be better looking than you currently look now?
	Probably not.
	Okay, and then you're 27.
	Were you better looking at 18 or better looking now?
	I think better looking now.
	36, better at 46, better looking, 46?
	Probably not.
	And then you're 36, better looking at 26?
	Or better now?
	Better at 26.
	Okay.
	19, better looking at 29?
	I honestly feel like I'm going to look the same.
	My mom, she looks the exact same from when she was 18 years old.
	So it's in the Asian genes.
	Okay.
	What about 39?
	39?
	I'll probably be getting a little bit old, some wrinkles, maybe.
	So better looking, the same, worse.
	I honestly think I'm going to be the same.
	My mom is like 50.
	She still looks the same.
	I'm not even joking.
	Is she married or?
	Yeah, she's married to my father.
	I was just asking for Nick because he kind of likes the older women.
	And you said she's like still a babe, so.
	Yeah, she's gorgeous.
	She's major baby.
	She's absolutely stunning.
	I can show you guys after we're done.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Nick.
	I love how you want to show off your mom.
	Next time.
	Okay.
	Is there like a point, like 49, 59, 69?
	I will say probably 60.
	I don't know about me personally.
	I do have some of my father's genes.
	He's Moroccan, so I don't know how it's going to go.
	But I would say I would start probably looking different 40 to be safe, 50.
	So sure.
	45.
	Do you have a peak?
	Do you know when the peak will be?
	I hope I didn't reach my peak yet.
	I hope I'm going to be looking at it.
	No, but do you think it'll be 30, 40?
	I want to say 27, 27.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Better looking?
	You're 31, better looking 40.
	I was better looking at 21, and I won't be better looking in 10 years.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're 32, better looking at 42?
	Nope.
	And then were you better looking 22?
	Absolutely.
	I was a babe.
	Babe.
	Yeah, but I was really.
	Yeah.
	I was so modest, though.
	I never showed it off, unfortunately.
	Which is fortunate, but you know what I mean.
	Right.
	35?
	Better looking 10 years' time.
	I think I'm going to be better looking.
	At 45.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
	55, better looking?
	55?
	Yeah, 20 years.
	Oh.
	Probably.
	I mean, my mom's really pretty too, so.
	Maybe.
	But maybe not.
	But you will be better looking at 45 versus what.
	I say that just because of my awareness now and taking care of myself.
	So I feel like in 10 years, it will be different in 10 years.
	My weight.
	I see.
	Question, though.
	Assuming you don't change your weight at all, will you be better looking at 45?
	No.
	Okay.
	And then were you better looking at 25?
	No, I think I'm better now.
	Okay.
	Did you lose weight from 25?
	I did.
	Okay.
	18, better looking in 10 years?
	I think so, yeah.
	20 years?
	38?
	Okay.
	I think it'll decline after 27.
	All right.
	We are beautiful.
	Our much appreciated segment.
	We've put all of you through AI to assess.
	Oh, great.
	I love it.
	Do you have all these, Nick?
	Does mine gender too?
	Through it.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Pull it up.
	Oh, no.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, God.
	It will not be that.
	I will have Botox.
	All right.
	It will not be that.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Okay.
	Oh, God, I know what's going on.
	Next.
	It looks good.
	Gosh.
	Still looks good.
	AI.
	Okay.
	I'm having a midlife crisis already.
	Next.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes.
	You did you dirty.
	Don't do that.
	What is that like?
	16.
	Yeah, it looks good.
	Okay.
	Not a fan, it seems.
	I don't know.
	All right, next.
	What?
	No.
	Oh, come on.
	What?
	No, you should see that.
	They're not bad.
	That is so bad.
	I think that's pretty accurate, to be honest.
	What?
	That's what he says to be mean when it's really bad.
	I'm not trying to, no.
	That is so.
	I think that's actually kind of reasonable.
	Oh, God.
	Maybe her eyes turned like seven lads.
	They're like sunken in.
	Her eyes turned lad.
	I think that's.
	I don't know.
	AI isn't real.
	Like, you're 31 now.
	The middle one is like 51?
	Maybe.
	Oh, God.
	Maybe 60.
	The far one is a little six.
	The far one is that.
	That's like 80.
	Like 85.
	Yeah.
	Did you see my mom?
	She's 62.
	She looks nothing like that at all.
	All right.
	Well, there you go.
	Next.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, God.
	My mom has great skin.
	I'll say that my mom, and I love her, but I will not.
	No, that's not going to be me.
	You look like you would work at a prison.
	Yeah.
	And smoke like three packs a day.
	Next.
	Oh, no.
	That's bad.
	No, you look cute.
	You look like a cute teacher.
	This is what the future holds.
	Next.
	He's cute.
	Sweet little lady, cute granny.
	All right.
	You're so much prettier than that.
	Wow.
	No.
	Felicity.
	They did you dirty.
	No.
	Next.
	Just not.
	There you go.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Sandy.
	No.
	Yeah, I was looking the same thing.
	It looks like a nut.
	Your nose never stops growing.
	I already got a big nose now.
	Not that big.
	Okay, Felicity.
	So I like the other old one that they usually do.
	I don't know.
	The Santa Claus one.
	And then we've changed all of your genders.
	Oh.
	So the question is, would you date the male version of you?
	Let me see.
	That was a little weird gesture there.
	Okay.
	Boom.
	Wow.
	Okay, he looks kind of fine.
	Yeah, I would.
	You date him?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is he a 10?
	I would say he like a nine.
	A nine?
	Okay.
	Do you like that?
	I don't know how tall he is.
	I love the hair.
	I'm loving the hair.
	The hair's good.
	Suave.
	Like full, thick-headed hair.
	Yeah.
	That's hilarious.
	Rico Salape.
	Literally, yes.
	So you would date him.
	You would date him.
	I would date.
	I did a song by next.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, put it back up.
	Yeah, I'll put it back.
	Okay.
	He was lovely as a dude.
	Would you, if you were single, would you date that guy?
	I'm orange and blondes and blue eyes and green eyes, but yeah, not bad.
	I wouldn't say no.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Wow.
	Stop.
	That's brutal.
	Oh, no, Oh, hold on.
	So, look, I'm going to do a trigger warning.
	I'm about to pull it back up.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	Just warning you.
	Oh, God.
	Why did it do it like that?
	Holy shit.
	Oh, my goodness.
	So the question is.
	They shrunk his head.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	No, I wouldn't.
	Can we see that?
	Is that Noah?
	No!
	He has like a lazy eye.
	Wait, is your boyfriend, is he white guy?
	He's white.
	White guy.
	Question for you.
	Have you dated an Asian guy?
	Actually, no.
	No, I haven't.
	Only white guys?
	White, and the other one, he was mixed, so he is white and black.
	Okay, mixed race.
	Gotcha.
	Like 50-50 or something.
	Well, I don't know, whatever.
	It doesn't.
	Light-skinned.
	Light-skinned.
	Okay.
	Light-skinned.
	No Asian guys?
	No, actually.
	Are you Vietnamese?
	No.
	I know you're half.
	You're half Moroccan and then half Taiwanese.
	Okay.
	No Filipinos in there?
	No.
	Vietnamese?
	No.
	Cambodian?
	Laos?
	Mongolian?
	I don't think so.
	I do know my grandfather.
	He migrated from China to Taiwan.
	So I don't know if that maybe there might be some mix in.
	Oh, no, I mean, have you dated a guy who's any of those?
	No Asian guys.
	Nope.
	Would you?
	Or are you?
	I know some.
	I've heard from some Asian women and they say, you know, I'm not attracted to Asian guys.
	They say that.
	Are you into Asian guys?
	I mean, I know myself better.
	There's been many times I said I wouldn't date a certain race.
	And then actually both races I said that I wouldn't date, I found myself in.
	So now I'm like, no, I don't think.
	And I don't mean that in a racist way.
	Sure.
	Even though it does come.
	Yeah.
	I get that.
	But yeah, no, I don't see myself not dating an Asian guy.
	But so far you haven't.
	Okay.
	Have you ever like rejected an Asian guy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Next one.
	Pour favour.
	Or wait, show us.
	Sorry.
	One last.
	Brutal goat.
	You know what?
	Maybe that means I'm meant to be a woman, guys.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Yikes.
	Oh.
	Wait, he's not.
	He looks.
	Wait, low-key?
	Does he look Finnish to you?
	Yeah.
	Like German or something?
	No, he looks Swedish.
	What's the they're no longer a species or whatever?
	What is Neanderthal?
	Neanderthal.
	A little Neanderthal, to be honest.
	What?
	A little Neanderthal.
	Those eyes are so stunned.
	The male version.
	You're stunning.
	Thanks, Brad.
	But the male version.
	What?
	It's the male version.
	Kind of looks like PewDiePie.
	By the way, aren't like Neanderthals, like the more Neanderthal DNA you have, aren't you higher IQ or something?
	I don't know.
	I think you're no, I think you're higher IQ if you have more Neanderthal.
	I think it's the opposite.
	Is it?
	Are you stronger?
	Are you like stronger?
	They were like more caveman and like bigger.
	Okay.
	Well, I stand corrected.
	I stand corrected.
	I don't think you look like anything.
	Some people are saying I'm correct.
	Thank you.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Apparently, Genghis Khan.
	That motherfucker's got a lot of DNA all over the place.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	No.
	Why not?
	Not into it.
	You don't like white men?
	I. You don't have a track record of dating white men?
	I think I am.
	But you date white men?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	I don't date anybody at the moment.
	Well, your last boyfriend, was he a white guy?
	No.
	Boyfriend before that, was he a white guy?
	Last boyfriend was what?
	Mexican.
	Okay.
	Wait, question for you.
	Last guy you dated, what did he do for work?
	My last boyfriend or the last guy I went on a date with?
	Dated.
	Not date.
	Dated.
	Okay, so.
	Because you could go on one date with a guy and you're not feeling that.
	The last person I was dating was a restaurant manager.
	Chick-fil-A?
	No.
	Oh, sorry.
	Is that insulting?
	No, it's just funny that you're guessing a random fast food restaurant.
	I don't eat fast food actually.
	I haven't eaten it since I was 17.
	Hey, those Chick-fil-A managers do well for themselves.
	Okay, they can.
	Yeah, sure.
	Wow.
	Wait, was it Masros?
	No.
	Wait, so you had like two longer-term boyfriends, right?
	Well, no, I mean, not long, but yes, a three-and-a-half year and a five-month.
	Four and a half, five.
	The three and a half year boyfriend, just what did he do for work?
	When I met him, I told you he worked at a car wash.
	And then the other when I left him, he was.
	He's doing well.
	The other long-term one that you had, what did he do for work?
	He actually didn't really have a job.
	He was.
	I guess I checked all that.
	He stock traded.
	Oh, he was a stock trader.
	He day traded, actually.
	Did he do well?
	He did.
	Yeah.
	How dare you date somebody who does well?
	Oh my gosh, that's not him.
	Not having a requirement on income is not abnormal.
	Like, I don't have any friends that have, oh, they need to make this much.
	I mean, maybe in their head they do, but I've never heard of people with a requirement for that.
	And I think it's absolutely ridiculous.
	Well, I don't think it has to be a precise requirement for a precise number, but I think there's a general tendency for women to have a generalized preference for men who are successful.
	Defined successful.
	Thank you.
	Financially successful careers.
	No, but like there's so much other success in life.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And I think not being addicted to drugs, not being on prescription pills, not, you know.
	Yeah, that's important too.
	There's a few other things I would say.
	Not voting for Joe Biden.
	I think those things are success.
	All right.
	There's a lot of validation.
	The question is not asked so much, but it would get thought about.
	I think if you were to ask your friends the question, they would have a number.
	I genuinely don't agree with that.
	The few girlfriends I do have don't have, they don't have a number.
	Your 30-year-old girlfriends are fine dating a guy who flips burgers at McDonald's.
	I don't think that's the dream for most 30-year-olds.
	I don't have a fast food ever.
	I don't think because, look, the reality is I'm not trying to knock guys who work fast food.
	It's working retail or working a restaurant job.
	It's stressful.
	It's hard work.
	You're on your feet.
	And I'm not frowning upon them, but it is the reality.
	I think, and they would probably be honest about it too.
	Most women are not going to be super stoked to date a cashier at McDonald's.
	That's not a knock on men who are cashiers at McDonald's.
	That's just a reality.
	That might be true.
	And that might be due to a lower IQ.
	Maybe the people that, I mean, if you're working as a cashier at McDonald's when you're 30, it's, you know.
	But I have a really good friend who just got married to a man who didn't have a job for nine months.
	She, she was fine with it, and they just got married.
	And he got a job like a month before they got married.
	So he didn't have an income.
	They're 30, you know?
	It's the company I keep is not holding income standards for their partners.
	So not everybody out there is.
	Look, I don't think it's wrong for a woman who's in her 30s to like have some expectation that I'm not saying that the guy has to be like a millionaire or billionaire, but that the guy is taking care of himself and has a job.
	And I don't think it's wrong for a woman to want that.
	But anyways, we already talked about that.
	I want to know what your income standard is for your partner.
	Don't care.
	Zero.
	Okay, well.
	But he's a guy.
	Men and women are different.
	We are.
	We are.
	We're very different.
	And don't care.
	If you were a woman, what would it be?
	If I was a woman, do we have the gender swap?
	Just show them the gender swap.
	Just skip ahead and we'll go back to, we need to finish that off.
	But if I was her.
	You're so cute.
	Look, here's my read on that chick on Brianna.
	She didn't look pretty.
	She's a kind of a little bratty.
	She lives in New York City and she wants a guy who makes $400,000 a year.
	That's fucking Brianna.
	We love that for her.
	She wants a guy who makes her.
	Her eyes are so blue.
	I like the old.
	Has anyone ever noticed how blue Brian's eyes are?
	No.
	Look at him.
	I love how that girl didn't change.
	Did they change in age?
	She just stayed young.
	But did you see that?
	They were going to age him.
	We did show you.
	Oh, my God.
	Your age.
	No, we didn't.
	Are you okay?
	We didn't age the opposite gender.
	We did show my age one.
	No, of the girl.
	And now it's a gender swap.
	That's true.
	Okay.
	You're right.
	Never mind.
	We're not aging.
	They're showing it with hair without it.
	Never mind.
	Yeah, women typically don't grow beautiful.
	I know.
	I know.
	Brianna did not look 36.
	She looked younger.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Let's go back to it.
	Pull up the rest.
	Are you ready?
	Pink-haired guy.
	Oh, cool.
	I don't hate it.
	Wait.
	I love eating it up.
	He's cute.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	He holds his weight well.
	No, the hair.
	Yeah.
	Girls are goony here.
	Yeah, look at that.
	He's definitely wearing lipsticks.
	He looks like a mugshot for a Tifa guy.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I think he looks cool.
	Thank you.
	Next.
	Oh.
	With the facial hair.
	So would you date the male version of you?
	He kind of looks like you a little bit.
	What?
	The hair?
	No.
	Okay, regardless of who he looks like, would you date him?
	Probably, yes.
	Yeah, I would.
	Yeah, I would.
	All right, next.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	I mean, he's cute.
	He kind of looks gay though.
	That's what I thought.
	He looks a little bit too.
	Definitely a little feminine.
	Yeah, it's the head tilt.
	It's the head tilt.
	It could be the head tilt, the glasses.
	Okay, whoever's doing these, can you guys like exorcism this guy to not have the head tilt?
	Message from the government of Canada.
	We'll do the next.
	Pasty George donated $200.04.
	Careful, hold on.
	Some people, especially young adults, work low-wage jobs despite having college and university degrees.
	Oh, there's a lot of bachelor degrees working at restaurants.
	Because it's not about at the end of the day what you learned.
	It's about what you actually experienced.
	That's something I found out.
	You know, I've talked about a little bit earlier, not to get too into the subject, but I didn't finish high school because of some financial issues our family was having.
	But, you know, I've gone through so much farther in life.
	Not to say that I'm doing the best right now.
	I definitely can do better, but I know kids, not to bash on them either, but I know kids in college, they're just learning absolutely nothing.
	They're getting shit-faced every weekend.
	So it's really not about the degree at the end.
	Sorry, I wasn't laughing at you.
	I was laughing at Felicity.
	Yeah.
	He's being weird.
	You were like picking at your.
	No, like it felt like itchy right there.
	I thought there was a tag or something.
	Oh.
	Next.
	Next.
	Okay, not the worst we've seen.
	Did you date him, Felicity?
	No.
	He looks like my dad.
	Can you admit, though, this is a better, better one?
	I agree.
	It's a better one.
	He kind of reminds me of Chandler from Mr. Beast.
	I don't know if you remember, like, the tall guy.
	I don't watch Mr. Beast.
	When you're leaving you, yeah.
	Next.
	I already seen it.
	Yeah, whatever.
	That's fine.
	Funny.
	Ariana.
	So pretty.
	Yeah, and she's okay.
	Look, I mean, look at the eyes.
	To be fair, she's in her 30s.
	Like, that's not that crazy.
	She looks young.
	She's in her 30s.
	Can we see young Brian?
	Oh, my goodness.
	Sure, why not, Nick?
	Felicity is over here being a little gooner.
	Goonette.
	She's being a little goonette.
	You can just pull up young Brian.
	For context, I guess.
	For context, you know, whatever.
	Whatever.
	Whatever, whatever.
	No big deal.
	Whatever.
	How young are we going?
	Oh, it's just like old photos of me.
	For real, for realsies.
	Do you have it?
	All right.
	You can scroll to the very bottom.
	Whatever.
	We'll do it in like 10 seconds.
	All right.
	Surf, surf, surf.
	Up, up, up.
	Okay, young Brian.
	Yep, cool.
	There's me with a donkey.
	There's me, shirtless, not shirtless, fucking tank top.
	Up.
	The one with the puppy.
	There's me dressed up as Robert Lewandowski.
	Click the angel one, I guess.
	Angel one.
	Wait, you used to be so cool.
	I know.
	I used to.
	Hey, why don't you dress like that anymore?
	I'd like that outfit.
	The white?
	Do you not surf anymore?
	No, I don't.
	Used to, though.
	One day I'll get back to it.
	Anyways.
	That's what they all say.
	Okay, I'm not.
	What are you trying to communicate, I guess?
	I don't know.
	Guys, if you're enjoying the stream, $100 TTS.
	Sorry, excuse me, I misspoke.
	$200 TTS, $100 read.
	Venmo Cash App, whatever, pod, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Yo, John, thank you for the 25.
	I think I'm, no, this is new.
	John, thank you for the 25 on Venmo.
	Appreciate it, man.
	You are a gentleman and a scholar and a legend.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Wait.
	Did it really say that?
	I don't know, something like that.
	Guys, shop.whatever.com.
	Get yourself some merch.
	We got some.
	I did some new Big Labia Matter designs on there if you want.
	Discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Like the video, guys, if you're enjoying the stream.
	Also, Big Labia Matter.
	Okay.
	So we did all the gender swap, right?
	We just, now we just have some, guys, here's what we're going to do.
	We're going to lower the TTS.
	We're going to lower TTS to 69, actually.
	We now have a $69 TTS if anybody wants to get a message in.
	$69 TTS.
	Let me just adjust all that.
	Felicity, sorry.
	Oh, my God.
	Butchering.
	You have a question for the panel while I just.
	I already asked all my questions.
	Ask some more.
	Be creative.
	Be a creative little big labia story if you want to hear it.
	Okay, you've piqued my interest.
	Okay.
	So I was 15 years old and I had all these weird phone calls.
	And I finally listened to the voicemail and there's this old lady on the line saying, hey, doctor, whoever, I just want you to know that my labia is really swollen and red.
	And she left me all these voicemails saying that.
	And I was like, mom, because we were in the car, what's the labia?
	And she's like, what the hell are you watching?
	So she actually had to call this little old lady and be like, hey, this is my daughter's phone.
	Please stop calling and find out who your doctor is.
	So that's how I learned what a labia was.
	I had no idea.
	It was kind of weird.
	It was very weird.
	That is strange.
	Very strange.
	That is an interesting.
	Does anybody else have a big labia story they want to share?
	I don't.
	It's very rare that I get to share that.
	So thank you.
	Your moment.
	That's what's going to, you know.
	I feel like statistically, I mean, it would just, there's statistically, like, somebody has an Audi.
	It's actually like really common.
	I don't know what that is.
	It's like 50-50.
	It's probably 50-50.
	Who here has an Audi?
	Belly Button?
	Yeah.
	None of them.
	None of them.
	Yes.
	Nobody?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I mean, maybe they're like, I don't want to be able to do that.
	They don't want to talk about their genitalia.
	That's probably fair, but $69 TTS if you guys want to get it in.
	$69 TTS.
	But statistically, there's probably then like hundreds of women on this show, unbeknownst to me, who have had Audis.
	Just sitting there.
	Well, you're a guy.
	Like, what would you think the ratio is?
	I don't know.
	I definitely had a wait.
	What's it called when you a phase?
	I had a dry spell of labia.
	Like, it was in a dry.
	Is it a dry spell?
	Is that the term?
	Like, like, I was, you know, dating or whatever, but there was like a two-year, three-year period.
	I was just like, damn, where are the big pussies at?
	Where are the big pussies?
	I don't know.
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	Look at her fucking eyes.
	She's like, what the fuck?
	Sorry, I can't control.
	Honestly, like, I think I need Botox because I have way too expressive of a face and I should just look the other way.
	No, but I had a, I had, there was a, like, a period I was like, damn, bro.
	Is this going to sound so weird because I was a virgin when I got married, but I've seen a lot of genitalia because I took care of people with like disabilities and things like that and older people.
	And I never saw anything crazy.
	So.
	So you've seen a lot of disabled vagina.
	More, a lot more penis, honestly.
	But yeah.
	Oh.
	I don't know why.
	There's just, there was a lot more people.
	Nice.
	So yeah, it was never attractive, of course.
	Why?
	You bring up the big labia topic.
	I know, obviously.
	Because everybody's like, what the fuck?
	But like statistically speaking, there's probably been like 500 girls on the show who've got alleys.
	Anyways, good talk.
	Awkward.
	It's only awkward.
	No, it's only awkward.
	It's not awkward.
	You're making it awkward.
	Okay.
	Anyways, we're getting into the show notes.
	Laura.
	You disagree with Brian when he says a girl should do his laundry the first time she comes to his place.
	Is that a joke or did he actually state that?
	When did that happen?
	When did I disagree with you?
	You wrote that in the pre-show, like in the DMs.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah.
	Filled that out a while ago when I was 30.
	I don't think a girl should do your laundry on a first date.
	Is that what you're doing?
	Well, first time she comes to my place.
	Laundry.
	Fuck no.
	I freaking did that, but then I called my Abby and was like.
	First time.
	Yeah, but actually after that, he came to Helsinki.
	I used to live there.
	It's like 250 kilometers.
	So what is it in miles?
	It's like a two and a half hour drive.
	We got it.
	Yeah.
	So I was sick and he came and took me and my daughter to Tambre to just be together and look out for us.
	So he went to work the next morning and I was like, hmm, what should I do?
	And yeah, I clean his closet.
	The first time you went to his house.
	Yeah.
	But I called him.
	This is a red flag.
	So are you scared of me now?
	And he was like, oh, that's so cute.
	I was like, oh, you're weird.
	I've done a lot of my ex's laundry.
	Never in the first two, three months of dating.
	That's setting the precedent of like, don't do it.
	I'll do it.
	Like I'm your mom, like I'm your, no.
	I think it's a red flag that the girl is crazy.
	If she does it?
	Yeah, like in the first time you're there.
	It's a green flag.
	You want to...
	Like going through your stuff.
	Like, walking in and being like, oh, your place is dirty.
	It's not just your laundry.
	It's in a hamper.
	Pastille, she's going through your stuff.
	Yeah.
	Like the other way around, a girl would be like freaked out.
	Like, why are you touching my stuff?
	I mean, if the expectation is there that she do it.
	Why would it be there the first time she's at your house?
	Has that ever happened?
	How's that ever happened?
	Someone comes over for the first time and you look at and she sees your pile of laundry.
	Are you like in high school?
	First off, I've gotten a lot more than just the laundry done.
	Okay.
	First time.
	First time.
	It's not sexual when you fucking weirdo girls back there.
	It's not a sexual thing.
	It's like she cleans.
	Yeah, I used to do that for my ex-boyfriend.
	Every time I went over there, I would clean his bathroom and all that stuff.
	First time.
	But I'm not first time.
	That's not.
	No, I would never.
	Okay.
	Well, so that's interesting.
	Does anybody, before I get into it with you, though, who here thinks first time you go to a guy's house, would it be unreasonable to do his laundry?
	I wouldn't do it.
	You wouldn't do it?
	Unless that's something he asked me to do, and I really was into him.
	I mean, I guess I wouldn't be over there if I wasn't.
	What do you think?
	I think it's weirder to ask for it on a first time.
	She should just know.
	But anybody can do laundry.
	Anybody, like, she should offer, to be honest.
	Oh, hey, Brian, can I do the?
	Yeah, she should offer.
	I don't know how to be still.
	So if I'm in somebody's apartment, I will probably clean and do stuff and like cook and stuff.
	Just to show the being grateful.
	I feel like, I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if someone's coming over to my apartment, I don't want anything dirty or anything.
	My question is going to be: why is your laundry undone?
	You know, I would never not do a laundry.
	Well, the clothes aren't like on the floor, they're in the hamper.
	They're in the hamper.
	And she just goes, she just walks into your closet and goes, oh, you've got laundry.
	Let me do it.
	I just got here for the first time.
	It's so fucking hot.
	No, it's different if she washes a few dishes and she makes you dessert.
	Like, that's a whole nother thing.
	No, sure, that's good too.
	But doing someone's laundry is like invasion.
	It's like, let me look at your clothes.
	Let me look at what, you know, I don't know.
	That's weird.
	That's weird.
	If somebody's going into that, it's weird.
	That's weird.
	Actually, my husband does like 95% of our laundry.
	To be fair.
	Oh, I can't go down the stairs anymore.
	Okay, well, that's different.
	Okay.
	I've folded laundry.
	First date.
	First and second date.
	Yeah.
	Valid thoughts.
	I don't want to touch a man's boxers who isn't my husband.
	Like the dirty ones.
	That's husband and wifey duties for husbands.
	Exactly.
	If I'm not his wife, I'm not doing the wife.
	So that way I'm not on a wifey level.
	I kind of like it.
	Yeah, you can't give up the milk for free until they buy the cow.
	My grandma taught me that.
	So now they're calling it picking up.
	Yeah, that goes out the window, though, as I'm about to point out.
	So you said, I don't know who it was.
	I think it was you, like, or maybe it was you who said, oh, what?
	What?
	You want a mom?
	Why is she being your mom?
	Is that well?
	The issue with the mom thing, right?
	Is as soon as I turn this around when it comes to women's expectations of men, you want men to provide.
	You want men to protect.
	Whether that's before your boyfriend and girlfriend, while your boyfriend and girlfriend, when you're even married, you want men to provide and protect.
	Would you want your father?
	Because your father provided and protected you.
	So, do you see how dumb that sounds?
	Oh, you want me to provide and protect you?
	I'm not your father.
	You can do that shit on your own.
	No, I'm not against doing his laundry.
	If he's not my boyfriend and I'm going there for the first time, I'm not doing his laundry.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Down the line, I'm fine.
	I'll clean the whole house.
	I've done that my whole life.
	Why the mom comment?
	Because that's it.
	No, stop.
	The first time you come over there.
	That's a general criticism of the entire behavior, regardless of what point in the relationship you're at.
	Because when you come over and there's dirty laundry, what I was saying is if you're seeing dirty laundry, like obviously like your room is what I was anticipating is that it's kind of like there's dirty laundry in the bathroom or wherever, just scattered around and you want somebody to come over to clean up.
	For the third time, it's in the laundry hamper.
	Before I made that comment, I thought, oh, I'm coming over to like some dirty like frat house.
	Even if that was the case and there was a couple pieces of clothing not in the hamper or not in whatever.
	Regardless, I'm never doing laundry on a first time at someone's house.
	Then great.
	I can differentiate.
	I can move off of the.
	To be clear, though, you're saying it's not an issue maybe on to do those things.
	Not at all.
	Okay, so it's not, oh, you want a girl to be your mom.
	That's not your position then.
	No, no, no, no.
	Oh, why invoke these arguments?
	Just waste so much time.
	Okay, god damn.
	I have to forward arguments that you're not even...
	My argument is that I'm not going to do your laundry on the first time.
	Okay, but then don't forward the argument that what do you want?
	You want a woman who you want a girl to be your mom?
	To come over and clean your room.
	Yeah, but when women make the, I'm not your mom argument, That is irrespective of where how far you are into the relationship.
	Women will say that in a five-year marriage, uh, you've been dating a guy for two years.
	Women will say, I'm not going to do this.
	I'm not your mom.
	In this case, you're willing to do it.
	So, look, whatever.
	You don't want to, oh my god, dude.
	Um, so then that's off the table.
	Then you will do it just on a long enough timeline.
	Yeah.
	Um, okay, you want a man to pay on the first date, correct?
	Yeah, especially if it's going to be a matter of time.
	Men should provide and protect.
	Should a man protect you on a second or third date?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	Yeah.
	Men should observe the sidewalk rule.
	Do you know what that is?
	I know what it is.
	I don't.
	You don't care about that.
	That's right.
	It's very important.
	That's kind of stupid.
	So men should pay on first dates.
	Men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	Why is it okay for you to have an expectation?
	You said you don't care about how much money a man makes.
	So it's reasonable for me to believe that you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour.
	Sure, if I fell in love with him.
	Right?
	I'm not making a criticism of that, but you would date a guy who makes $20 an hour.
	Great.
	To take you out on a date, I think it'd be reasonable if he takes you to a nice.
	No, no, no, it doesn't have to be nice.
	If he takes you out to a dinner, he's spending $100 and he's paying for it.
	Assuming it's, you know, we'll cut that down the middle.
	Your portion of the meal is $50.
	Your demand for a man on a first date is he has to work two and a half hours to take you on a date.
	If I want a girl, the first time she comes over, that doesn't even mean it's the first date, although I'm open to that.
	First time she comes over, it takes 10 minutes to do the laundry.
	Okay, you put it in the machine.
	It's not the fucking 1700s, which with a washing board.
	We have technology that, by the way, is invented by men.
	You're welcome.
	I know.
	You pick up the clothes, you put them in the machine two minutes, put some soap in, whatever.
	You turn it on, you check on it 30 minutes, an hour later.
	It takes one, two minutes to transfer it to the dryer.
	Press a button.
	All right, well, then you can do that when we're not on a date.
	Maybe the longest period of time, the folding takes the longest.
	Maybe it's 10, 15 minutes.
	Okay, so let's say it's 30 minutes total, even being generous, I guess.
	So it's an issue for me to want a woman to work 30 minutes.
	But for a guy to take you on a date that costs $100, which I think you go to Chili's, you're spending $100.
	I've never been to Chili's.
	Okay.
	Look, I'll break it down super simple.
	You go to Chili's, you get an appetizer, you each get a drink, you get a main course, you get a dessert, you give a tip.
	It's $100.
	You want a guy to work two and a half hours to take you on a first date, and you said you wouldn't even do the laundry on the first, the first time you go there.
	So a guy might have to take you on two, three, four, five, six, seven dates before you'd even consider doing that.
	Correct.
	Right.
	So why is my expectation weird that I want a woman to maybe spend 30 minutes doing the laundry, but you want a guy to work two and a half hours to take you on a date?
	I never said the date would be $100, but yeah, sure, in this hypothetical situation.
	Do you think $100 spent on the first date is like really unreasonable?
	Not really unreasonable, but it's pretty high.
	I don't think it's that high for like a mid-tier restaurant.
	Is Chili's mid-tier?
	I don't even know.
	Maybe it's low-tier.
	I don't know.
	Have y'all ever tried the triple dipper?
	What is it called?
	But why is a guy bringing her over if he has a dirty house?
	It doesn't have to be dirty.
	Like it's dirty.
	If you can see the laundry, like that's dirty.
	I just went to a nice dinner the other night.
	It was $50 for two people.
	In LA?
	Yeah, Moody Rooster in Westlake.
	Yeah, to be exact.
	I mean, plus tip, it was $60.
	You each get, I mean, look, here would be my breakdown.
	Whether you drink or not, you each get two drinks, maybe.
	I'm not talking soda.
	Two drinks, appetizer, main course, dessert, tip.
	That gets you to $100 at like even lower end restaurants.
	Okay.
	And even using your example, maybe I'm not drinking on a first date.
	Okay, whatever.
	The $50 example, and he makes $20 an hour.
	He has to work, what, an hour and a half?
	Two and a half.
	$20 an hour?
	Well, to pay for your portion of the meal.
	Oh, my God.
	So it'd be $25.
	So it's maybe less than an hour and a half, whatever.
	An hour and 15, something like that.
	He has to work an hour to take you on the first date to cover it to cover your portion of it.
	Sounds good.
	That's the way of the world.
	Women have it good.
	What can I say?
	Okay.
	But you disagree as it relates to me wanting.
	He is putting his money into a piggy bank because it'll pay off later when I am doing his laundry and cleaning his house.
	You haven't married any of the men yet.
	I'm saying, people.
	Jesus.
	When you first start dating, you are investing in something.
	You're investing in a relationship.
	This is why I don't go on dates with most people.
	This is why I'm not on dating apps because I don't want to invest in something unless I know that I like them and I know that I want to pursue something.
	So I don't just like, if random Joe Schmo asked me on a date outside, I'm not going to go on a date with him because I don't know him at all.
	So anyway.
	Okay, but you have a specific criticism of my expectation of wanting a woman to fold laundry the first time she comes over.
	Yeah.
	What's wrong with that?
	Ridiculous.
	But it's okay.
	I mean, huh?
	But so is it ridiculous for women to demand men to pay for first dates then?
	No, and they're not demanding it.
	A gentleman.
	They absolutely do demand it.
	I've never demanded any dinners in my life, but you answered.
	I said he should, should.
	And they should make that decision, but I'm never going to expect or demand that.
	Do you have a preference for it?
	Yes, of course.
	But is it, does he get negative?
	They're trying to impress.
	Does he get negative brownie points if he doesn't do it?
	No.
	I mean, have you ever had the experience where you go on a date with a guy and the waiter comes and he says two checks?
	Have you had that experience?
	With my boy?
	Well, no, not like separate checks, but like I said.
	No, first date, absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	No, I have not.
	Okay.
	On a first date, no, I have not ever had somebody split a check.
	They've always paid.
	They're gentlemen.
	Isn't that fucking convenient?
	The woman who doesn't demand it or expect it, you get it anyways.
	That's very convenient.
	Yeah, me.
	I just said being a woman's pretty fucking cool.
	Right.
	But so there is an expectation.
	And whether you actually, whether you actually articulate your demand, men feel a societal cultural pressure, whether, regardless of whether we know your position on it or not, men aren't even going to go into a date.
	They're not going to even negotiate it.
	It's like a major L for a guy to want to have the convo.
	I've offered to pay on first dates.
	Yeah, it's a token gesture that women do.
	It doesn't mean shit.
	I've done it and actually pulled out my card.
	You just admitted.
	Hold on, you fucking dad.
	They always pay.
	You just admitted that you've never paid on a date.
	What are you talking about?
	Not on a first date.
	I've offered, but I haven't paid because they didn't let me.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Because there's a societal and cultural expectation for men to do so.
	And I would assume, look, I don't know what I didn't create it.
	Question for you.
	If a guy did say two checks, would you feel a type of way?
	Like, I understand you might accept it, but would you feel a type of way about it?
	I would think that the date isn't going very well.
	If he was like, two checks.
	So there is, hold on.
	I would think that, but that's just me.
	Would there be a second date?
	Yeah.
	I would think that he didn't really like enjoy his time with me, but I wouldn't discriminate and hate him for it.
	So going, so he would be starting off with a deficit going into the second date of you feeling like something's off.
	No.
	Well, you would because you said you would feel like he wasn't into it, which was a good idea.
	Yeah, but then if he asked me on a second date, I would be like, oh, okay, like things are cool.
	He just didn't want to pay on a first date.
	Can I ask you a question?
	So if men should pay on first dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	What should women do?
	Is that a question for just me?
	For you, and then I'll open up to the rest of the panel.
	Women should be good role models for their children.
	They should raise their kids.
	Do you have any children?
	No, but I think so.
	Tell me what women should do for their boyfriends.
	Yeah, what should women do?
	They should cook for them and treat them with respect.
	And how soon?
	When they're their boyfriend or girlfriend.
	None of this like little, I don't know what we are situationship crap.
	That's not a relationship that you pay for first dates until that's the girlfriend.
	Yes.
	I mean, first dates are different.
	Second date, sure, let's split the check, whatever.
	Well, but do you split the check?
	Yeah, why not?
	You're telling me when you go on second dates, the guy still doesn't pay?
	I have split the check on a second date.
	But you still probably frequently encounter men paying for the second dates.
	Yeah.
	Well, yes.
	So why can't I, as a guy, say, no, you don't get to be paid for until you're my girlfriend?
	Why can't guys do that?
	They should.
	What?
	Girl.
	Okay.
	First dates are different.
	First dates, even first dates.
	No.
	Okay, well, I think a man should always pay on a first date, and they usually do because they want to impress you.
	They want to draw you in.
	They want to show you that they want you.
	And so they're like, I'm going to pay for this meal to feed you because I just say, look, we're going 50-50, but trust me, I'm into you and I want to fuck you.
	Whoa.
	This is more of a damn thing.
	I feel like men should.
	No, but me saying that.
	I mean, I tell my guy friends not to pay for dates other than the first date.
	What's called courting?
	I tell my guy friends, unless you really, really like her and you think she likes you, don't pay for dates because I know girls who go out multiple nights a week on Tinder or whatever just for free meals.
	I feel like men, so you know, when it's not in situations like these and it's actually someone who they want to pursue, I feel like they should take the first step in leadership.
	I mean, men are natural-born leaders, and that's something that we can't deny.
	That's why I believe that men should pay on the first date.
	As for what women should provide and what a good girlfriend/slash wife should be, they should be nurturing, they should be patient, they should be respecting of their husband or their boyfriend, they should never speak ill about them in front of other people.
	That's a very, very important thing that I learned from my parents.
	They need to give them motivation.
	They should be also, this is a very specific one, but they should be very perceptive.
	I've heard that a very, very good wife or a woman is very, she has a good, I think there's a word for it, discernment.
	You know, there needs to be some level of discernment as, you know, not just a girlfriend, but if you're going to be a mother as well, you need to be able to have that instinct within you.
	And all of this comes from, you know, not just loving your husband or boyfriend, obviously, but from respecting yourself as well.
	When you respect yourself, you respect others.
	So I think that's a, for me, that's what a good girlfriend or what a girl should bring to the table.
	So okay.
	What about this?
	Should women be submissive to a certain extent.
	To a certain extent.
	To the extent that the woman makes the determination as to how submissive she'll be?
	I mean, what do you want?
	Like, should a woman obey her husband?
	Should a wife obey her husband?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you obey your husband?
	Yeah, I mean, to a certain extent.
	I don't know.
	Do you get to decide?
	I mean, yeah, I'm not going to say yes to every single thing.
	Assuming it's reasonable.
	Sure.
	Like, obviously, if your husband says, jump off a building, you should not do that.
	He probably shouldn't be your husband then.
	Yeah.
	At that point.
	But okay, so I mean, I'm just look.
	There's very, it seems like there's these expectations on men.
	The moment a man has an expectation on the woman, oh my god, big deal, blah, blah, blah.
	Have whatever expectation you want.
	I'm just saying it's really disagreed with his laundry expectations.
	No, I would just say that.
	But I don't like the idea of it being an expectation.
	I expectation on a first time here.
	I love to do that.
	She thinks it's insane.
	Look, there's an expectation.
	Well, here's how I would translate this.
	So basically, the first time a girl comes over to my place, and maybe that's we've already been on a date, one, two, three dates, whatever, or, you know, or it's say the first time we're hanging out, whatever.
	That's asking her to do about 30 minutes of work.
	When women have an expectation on men to pay for first dates, in this case, many of you have probably dated guys who at some point or other have worked minimum wage or work, you know, $15 an hour, $20 an hour, especially when you're younger, when they're younger.
	I get your point, but he has to work one, two, three, four hours to pay for your date.
	Well, your date, both of you.
	But it would still be kind of creepy to be at a man's house for the first time and him expecting me to do his laundry.
	Well, then it's really creepy for women to expect men to pay for first aids.
	But that's like what's wrong.
	I get it's like not as socially acceptable or whatever, but like what's wrong with wanting to help out your partner?
	That I love.
	Oh, she's not my girlfriend.
	I'm not sure if you're a fan of the girl.
	But you're going to his house, assuming you've obviously hung out a few times.
	You're going to his house for the first time and you see that he needs some help, like cleaning up his laundry.
	That I love.
	It definitely would help.
	I would do.
	I don't even think it's like an ego thing or anything.
	It's just like you want to help.
	Well, now that you want to work away, I feel like I know definitely.
	Yeah, if you know this man and you've been no matter who laundry is kind of like something really personal.
	Don't you know?
	Like I said, I would do a few dishes potentially.
	I might.
	Dishes.
	That's worse than laundry.
	Not at all.
	No, it's not.
	Like putting it in a dishwasher?
	Or like just washing them.
	Like even if I knew this man and we've been dating for like, I don't know, a couple, like at least enough to go to his.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that takes a lot for me.
	So I'll know that if he needs help cleaning up, that's not something you should.
	I mean, not you should, but like I would want to help.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	Like what if he has other things to be doing?
	He has to go to work to pay for the dates.
	But the expectation is the one that is kind of like creeping me out.
	That's like the same thing that if you go to the restaurant, I would like him to pay.
	And if he does it, I'm grateful for it.
	And the same thing with the laundry or the dishes.
	Don't expect me to do it, but I will help and I will do it.
	And I will be like really happy if you being appreciated about it.
	Like, if you know what I mean.
	But the expecting is.
	I think we should play the bow video because I have way more expectations than just laundry.
	I have way more expectations.
	Here, while he's getting that pulled up, I have some chats.
	Barrier Wisdom donated $69.
	Thank you for the Brixton 5 show tonight.
	W panel, chill vibes overall.
	Chair 3, tell the devil dog to stay sharp.
	Barracks, life ain't easy.
	Don't rush it.
	Seen plenty crash outs.
	Templify, always faithful.
	Wait, is he enlisted or enlisting?
	He's enlisted.
	Enlisted, okay.
	He's active duty or I'm not quite sure.
	That's actually surprising.
	I'm quite sure of that stuff.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Thank you, man.
	Women expect so many things from men on the first date.
	But why is it wrong for men to expect women to do their dishes or laundry on or after the first date?
	Why so much entitlement?
	Okay, Pacey.
	I don't see it that way.
	it's interesting it's like single it's like pacey george has like multiple concubines like giga giga 10 out of 10 canadian models Don't even, bro, there's some fucking babes in Canada.
	They're hiding, like Saskatchewan.
	Yeah.
	And they're wearing their winter furs or whatever.
	So, anyways, it's interesting, though, whenever we say, like, there's no issue when we say men should.
	Men should pay on dates.
	Men should provide.
	Men should protect.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	Men should be willing to die protecting me.
	I think most of you circled that one too.
	You didn't, to be fair.
	But I would do the same thing.
	Yeah, but then the difference is, if you're dating a guy and something scary happens and you run away out of fear.
	Okay, you say that, but and you scream or you shriek, your husband is not going to lower his.
	He's not, you're not, he's not going to lose.
	Yeah, that's true.
	He's not going to lose attraction for you.
	If you're a coward, men aren't going to be like, uh, if a man's a coward, if a man runs away, if a man shrieks, but that's the reason why I do the laundry.
	It's the end of the relationship.
	It's over.
	She's going to lose attraction for the guy.
	100%.
	So we can have a conversation while I would give my life for my husband, blah, blah, blah.
	Well, if we're just generalized courage, if the guy's lacking in courage, if he's a coward, if he's scared, whatever, that's going to be assessed really.
	Women are going to assess that really, really badly.
	Men, if you, oh my God, a mouse, a spider, but your boyfriend like jumps up on a chair and goes like this.
	I just and he sees a spider.
	Oh my God.
	No.
	It's over.
	It's over for most women, I think.
	But I know you guys have that's called being manly.
	But when I say women should, women should do X, women should do Y. Ooh, that's sexism.
	That's misogyny.
	I'm not saying you said that, but that's how it's viewed.
	When men say, like, for example, do you think it's, do you think it's okay to say men should know how to change attire?
	Yes, and I know how to change attire.
	So yeah, he should know how to.
	And I'll teach you.
	But do you think it's fine for a woman to say men should know how to change attire?
	I think everyone should know how to do it.
	Sure, that's fine.
	But how about this?
	Women should cook.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Women should clean.
	Women should make me a sandwich.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Maybe we have more of a reasonable table here, I guess.
	But I think a lot of people would say, no, that's sexism.
	That's sexism against women to say that they should do that.
	I could tell you so many stories.
	I used to make my ex breakfast burritos every morning before he went to work or every other morning.
	I would skip some mornings because I didn't want to wake up super early.
	But yeah, they should do all those things.
	I agree.
	They shouldn't do laundry on a first time over.
	But I guess what I'm trying to get at is if men should do all these things, I'm not sure what should women do.
	You said have children, take care of their children.
	We're having a population collapse.
	Women are clearly not having children.
	That's because men don't want to marry women because they don't.
	No, I'm not saying it's the man's fault.
	They don't want to marry women because they're all fucking everybody.
	Excuse my language.
	They don't do the laundry.
	And they don't do anything for them.
	They don't offer anything to them.
	I'm telling you.
	What are we arguing about?
	So the woman should start doing laundry.
	Absolutely.
	On the first time.
	First time at the house.
	No, not the first time at the house.
	What's wrong?
	But they need to do more.
	They need to offer more.
	And they need to be more.
	On the first time.
	Let me ask you a question.
	If a woman did do it, like, let's just talk about practical reality.
	Do you think it's going to hurt her to do it?
	It won't hurt her, but it's just going to be.
	I think that's awkward.
	I think it's a little bit degrading.
	Like, oh, I'm here for the first time and I'm cleaning up his house.
	Like, I don't know.
	I just don't think.
	So I need to give my life for a girl I'm on a first date.
	No, you don't.
	You said I don't need to give my life.
	You said men should protect on a first date.
	It doesn't say that anymore.
	I said men should protect.
	Well, no, I asked you.
	No, yeah.
	On a first date.
	I wouldn't.
	If I was a man, I would run.
	If there was a shoot, if I was at a restaurant and a shooter came in and he took a bullet for me on a first date, I would think, whoa, whoa, that's wild.
	Would never expect that in a million years.
	Okay, I do recall.
	I don't know if it was you, maybe somebody else said something along the lines of, I asked, should a man be willing to provide and protect on the first, second, third date?
	And you did say, you did answer in the affirmative.
	Whether that means taking the bullet for you, maybe not to that extent.
	But there's this idea, at least with the sidewalk rule, that that's an extension of men should sacrifice their life for a woman, basically.
	Oh, if a car comes barreling down the road and you know, goes onto the sidewalk, the man should be closer to that so he gets hit instead of the woman.
	If I gotta fucking die for a chick, yeah, she should do my laundry.
	Yeah, she should cook and clean.
	I don't know if you guys have a saying like this, but we have a saying in Finnish.
	That means women's first, women first, even to tin ice to what?
	Tin ice.
	Thin ice?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	I don't get it.
	Like, women should be first, but it's added even to go on to ice that is thin.
	Oh, it's a joke.
	So that they can fall through the ice.
	I think I get it.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	I don't know.
	Y'all crazy, man.
	Y'all crazy.
	Shit.
	She says it's insane.
	She says it's insane.
	Oh, the balance.
	Do you expect somebody?
	I mean, chat, come in.
	Do you expect somebody to do your laundry on a first?
	They do.
	I'm sorry they do.
	Oh, no, no.
	The question I was asking was: would it hurt the woman?
	And like, if we're talking about the most effective strategy for a woman to take when dating, like, it's definitely not going to hurt.
	In fact, the guy could be like, oh, wifey material, boom.
	So if you're a woman struggling to get a guy, oh, no, take 20 minutes to just, and, and even the gesture would be appreciated.
	Some guys might be like, nah, you don't have to do that.
	Don't worry about it.
	But if you just say the first time you're at a guy's house, you're sitting there, you're talking, you just make the gesture.
	And look, if he takes you up on it, you do it, but you make the gesture and you just say, hey, is there anything I can help you out with around the house while I'm here?
	Let's say the guy.
	We're spending time together.
	I'm getting to know him.
	I'm not going to go to the bathroom.
	Oh, no, you can take a 30-minute break.
	Maybe he can keep you company in the last time.
	I don't have a better way to say it.
	No, you can't.
	They understand when I talk about it more.
	It's like context.
	Like, if you see some dishes in the ceiling, you're like, oh, do you need help?
	That's what I said that I would do that.
	Some laundry.
	But you want me to, you know, want some help with that?
	You're the guy going to work.
	He's starting.
	He's thundering.
	So I'm usually going.
	And dainty and feminine.
	Like, oh, you need some help.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you want me to get on my hands and knees?
	Yeah, no, girl.
	It's just like, you'll take his load, but that's the way.
	No, fuck no.
	Oh, my God.
	No, no, no.
	That's what that sounded like.
	Have you ever had a stand?
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Yes, in my, well, yeah, when I was 20, you know?
	I'm just kidding, I was just being dramatic.
	That's all right.
	But like, have you ever, and maybe even not a one-night stand, but even a guy who you went on to date for a period of time?
	Like, did you ever go back to his place the same first date?
	No, like, go on a date.
	One-night stand would be like, you sleep with them the first time and that's it.
	You don't see them again.
	And then The follow-up question there was: like, you could sleep with a guy the first date, but then you continue dating him.
	That can happen too.
	I have never done that.
	But you have had a one-night stand where you sleep with a guy.
	And I never talk to him again.
	How many you've said?
	You've done that a couple times.
	I've done that one time.
	One time.
	Okay.
	Well, okay.
	I did.
	Maybe there's two.
	Okay, there's two.
	Maybe three.
	Before 20.
	No, But my point is.
	We're all very young.
	And I'm getting the impression, to be fair to you, you don't do that anymore, right?
	You don't, you haven't had a one-night stand in a while, right?
	I get you don't do that anymore.
	But women will.
	What's confusing to me, I feel like it's almost wholesome.
	The first time a girl comes over to my house, I want her to fold my laundry.
	The first time y'all go to a guy's house, he wants to blow his load in your face.
	Wow.
	He wants to come inside you.
	He wants to.
	So, like, I almost, and many of you oblige them.
	So many women oblige men in this.
	So I'm like, you'll let a guy come in the back of your throat, but I'm fucking Mr. Wholesome over here.
	Let's do some laundry.
	I'm the bad guy, but y'all be choking on dick.
	Y'all be, y'all be lending some dude balls deep, sometimes without a condom.
	And I'm the fucking bad guy.
	I'm the bad guy.
	I expect one to do laundry, but y'all be dealing with dudes who expect to be balls deep in your pussy.
	Y'all expect a guy to be, you're going to be fucking gagging on his cock.
	Okay.
	And I'm the bad guy here.
	I'm the fucking bad guy.
	Not the first time that you go over to their house.
	Again.
	Hold on.
	Maybe three times a day.
	Women be sucking dick the first time they go to a guy's house.
	Let's begin with the money.
	I'm thinking like the first time I go to Met Morgan.
	If anything is the other way around.
	Yep.
	No, if you're willing to sleep with a man, you should be okay with folding his laundry.
	I'm sorry, but that's the truth of it.
	I think we all have this warped.
	I don't know if you're trying to argue otherwise, but if you're ready to sleep with a man, you should have no problem folding his laundry.
	Wait, that's actually a really good point you made.
	I actually haven't exactly thought of it in that way, but like there will be women who are so down to like suck a guy's dick, have sex with him, let him like, they'll fuck without fuck raw, fuck without a condom, but they draw the line like they, no, won't do the laundry, but will that's that's almost weird to me.
	Yeah, it's warped because they think it's empowerment.
	Like, shouldn't it be like, no, no, no, I will do you.
	I'm not going to fuck you yet, but sure, like, I'll help you out around the house.
	Like, shouldn't that be the order of operations?
	I'll do both when the time is right, not the first time going over there.
	Question for you.
	Which would come first?
	BJ or doing their laundry.
	Doing the laundry.
	Which would come first?
	No, it's no, it's probably It's probably laundry.
	Really?
	Or sex, potentially?
	It's not.
	Sex first, laundry after.
	But not raw.
	Never been on birth control in my life.
	Never been pregnant.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Where were we?
	Did we do the battle?
	Oh, wait, chats.
	Hold on.
	Sorry, chats.
	Okay.
	Sorry for the delay, boys.
	Hey, what the hell here?
	Oh my God.
	Why does it?
	It always has to.
	It reloads for some reason.
	Kind of frustrating.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Brian, these women who refuse to do the laundry or even the dishes are why many Western men are done with them.
	They expect so much from good men, but offer little to nothing in return.
	But how does I'm just curious?
	Like, how does he know that majority of Western men are done with this?
	And it's like if a marriage rate, divorce rate.
	If a woman from an Asian country was like, I want to marry an American man, they'd be like, oh, you're such a gold digger.
	But he's also like saying, oh, you passport bros, you should go get an Asian lady into some other country.
	I don't know, kind of hypocritical.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	So, according to Chair 4's views, men are a disposable commodity.
	If that is the case, then what made women so highly valued?
	Why are men viewed as less than women?
	According to me, men viewed as less than women.
	Apparently, I'm a misogynist, according to Brian.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	I never said I was.
	You said you were a misogynist.
	Well, I said I've been called that.
	Okay, whatever.
	I've been called misogynistic, but I never said that women were valued higher than men at all, ever.
	And maybe he needs to listen to the podcast a little again.
	Okay, let's see here.
	We have a few more.
	One sec.
	Thank you, Pasty George.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	More and more Western men are now realizing that women expecting you to pay for the first date, pick them up, and drop them off at home is entitled and quite sexist, especially when they're not trads.
	Yeah, nice.
	I don't even go on dates, so yeah, not expecting any of that.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Chair 4, degrading.
	What makes you think that many Western women are so high-valued that any little thing, such as doing laundry or dishes, would degrade them?
	Are they holy and levitating?
	On a first time over, I don't think they should be doing the laundry.
	Let's play the bow video.
	Let's play.
	So you think the laundry is crazy?
	Check this shit out.
	This is a tutorial I recorded of my ex-girlfriend to show to future girlfriends.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Do you see the bow?
	She has to bow.
	She has to bow every single time I come home.
	Greet me at the door with a bow.
	Laundry.
	Throw it on the bed.
	Dinner ready.
	Dinner has to be ready.
	Get home from a long day at the podcast.
	Cracks open a beer for me.
	Yep.
	She's beautiful.
	Yeah, you know.
	Why isn't she?
	I dumped her, though.
	I had to dump her.
	Why?
	The food wasn't hot enough.
	The food was, yeah, it was a little, the temperature was bad on it.
	Play the bow part.
	Bow.
	Pause.
	You see the depth.
	You see the submissive hand posture.
	This is my expectation.
	I expect a girl to bow.
	Going around the table, would you bow for a man?
	Hire a maid.
	Huh?
	Hire a maid.
	So no.
	No.
	Hire a maid.
	What about you?
	Depends on the man, but the man I have, yes.
	You're your current boyfriend, yes.
	Yes.
	You would do it.
	Okay, challenge for you.
	Give him a bow next time you see him.
	What about you?
	It's hard because I don't know how my dad will feel about me doing that.
	But also trying to say, like, if I really did respect this man, I don't know if I'll necessarily bow, but I will.
	Well, I will certainly submit to him.
	I just think bowing is a little the situation seems strange, but yeah.
	Well, I mean, Culturally, it might seem a bit eccentric.
	It might be a bit unorthodox.
	But in terms of the actual, you know, the actual action itself, it's completely benign.
	Anyone can do it.
	It's effortless.
	It takes three seconds.
	But why do you want that?
	I'll get into that, but would you bow for a man?
	Probably not.
	I thought I would give him a hug.
	I'd give him a kiss.
	I'd make him dinner.
	It would be something that would be pleasing to him.
	Would you do it?
	I don't.
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	But maybe.
	I thought, but didn't you agree with me that women should be submissive and women should obey?
	I mean, the whole rest of the video, totally fine, normal.
	Not the bow, though.
	The bow is a little weird.
	Yeah, again, I don't know what my dad would think about that either.
	I think he would think it's absolutely ludicrous.
	I don't know.
	What would your dad think about all the whatever you've done?
	What do you think?
	If my husband asked, I'd say yes.
	Yes.
	I mean, I agree that it is a bit strange, to be honest.
	But if it was, you know, my man, my dream man, I wouldn't.
	Well, no, let's not do that.
	Yeah.
	I will ask about the perfect man if that changes anything.
	No, no, no.
	Yeah.
	But the.
	It's strange.
	You can envision yourself realistically being married someday, right?
	And I assume this man isn't going to be perfect, right?
	No.
	The man you eventually end up with.
	If that man, your husband, asks you to do it, do you do it?
	Not the perfect man, not the ideal man, the man you end up with.
	I mean, just because of how strange it was, I'm not sure, but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't be submissive to him to do other things.
	But bowing, I think it's he overtly asks you to do the best.
	You don't have to do it.
	And you said you would be submissive, so.
	Bowing, though, it's just strange to me.
	I understand it's strange, but it doesn't hurt you.
	It's not immoral.
	So do you do it?
	Well, obviously it doesn't hurt me, but it puts me in a position where it's just strange.
	Like, even, you know, it's just strange.
	Well, I mean, we can extend this out to like other areas of life where you might encounter something strange.
	Like me, for example, I think if you're with someone who you otherwise get along with and they're you're attracted to them and you like them and there's good personality, but they have like a harmless sexual kink.
	I think instead of like making fun of them for it or thinking it's weird, I think if it's like, hey, this is something that turns them on and it's not like strange or harmful in any sort of way, I think in furtherance of being a good partner, probably just engage in their kink.
	So that's what it is.
	It's a kink that you're making her bow.
	I'm just saying, no, I'm talking about something separate.
	I think there are certain things where you could be like, well, this is a bit unusual.
	This is a bit strange, but it doesn't hurt me.
	And it is pleasing to my partner.
	Why wouldn't I do this thing?
	Okay.
	I mean, it doesn't seem like degrading.
	For example, if I was, I'll give you an example.
	I might think it's a bit peculiar.
	Yeah.
	If, you know, I was dating a girl and she wanted to, a couple times during sex, she wanted to meow.
	Like she, she's not full-blown furry, but she's like, you know what?
	I just, I wanted like her and meow a few times.
	I wouldn't, and I cared about this girl and she was my girlfriend and I loved her.
	I wouldn't be like, What the fuck is wrong with you, I'd be like, I care about this person.
	They have like a little interesting kink or whatever.
	It doesn't hurt me.
	Who knows?
	Maybe I might be honest with you.
	Sure, babe.
	Yeah, but bowing is kind of like showing like honor.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So that's why it kind of like a bad way.
	Like, obviously, I would honor my husband, but how could it be a bad way to honor your husband?
	I don't, I don't mean it that way, but it's just he's expecting me to bow to him.
	It's just, I don't know.
	It just, it just feels strange.
	But I'm trying to understand.
	Like, if he's not expecting, maybe he just means as like, can you bow?
	Like, if your husband was like, can you bow?
	Like, I feel like we, most of us would just be like, okay, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe I'm just not understanding.
	I don't think I would, I don't think I would fall in love with somebody who expects a bow.
	That's a here and there.
	Here and there.
	That's a cop-out.
	That's a total cop-out.
	But here and there, if you were like, can you bow this week?
	Or like, you know, okay, let's finish up with you though.
	So no, is it no?
	You wouldn't bow?
	I mean, I want to say no, but I just don't want it to make it sound like I wouldn't.
	If you love him, he means a lot to you and you really want to, you'll do it.
	Yeah, like if I really love him, if I wanted to.
	If my husband asked me to, yeah.
	Based.
	W.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	And by the way, is everybody here Christian?
	Maybe she's the only fucking Christian one.
	Because submit onto your wait, wait, how's it going?
	Submit onto your husbands as you would onto the Lord.
	Like a biblical Christian marriage, like the husband's the head of the household.
	You defer to him.
	You're submissive to him.
	Again, within the purview of like Christian ethics, Christian morality, if he asks you to start being a prostitute, of course, you're not going to be submissive to your Christian husband if he wants you to start an OnlyFans.
	No, that's in contravention of Christian, Christian morality, Christian ethics.
	But I don't know.
	Your husband.
	I just, I guess it's somebody in my Discord put it really well.
	I think it's her name, she always changes her username, so I'm trying to write.
	She wrote that if you will do one really easy, effortless, completely benign thing just to make your men happy, regardless of how silly it is, and it's like, you won't do it.
	You won't do it.
	Question though, for the perfect man, perfect man.
	It's not just look in life, we're not going to get perfect.
	We're not going to get the perfect life.
	We're not going to get the perfect career.
	We're not going to get the perfect spouse, husband, wife, whatever.
	They're going to annoy us in some way or another.
	They're not going to be as tall.
	They're not going to have as much hair as you'd like.
	They're not going to, whatever.
	They're not going to be every single thing that you want.
	You might really love them and they might be fantastic.
	You're not going to get the perfect person.
	For the perfect man, do you bow?
	Sure.
	For the perfect man, you do it.
	I mean, it would have to be like role-playing or whatever, like, not like an everyday thing.
	Everyday thing.
	Everyday thing.
	No.
	Still, okay, perfect man.
	Still, yes.
	Perfect man, do you bow?
	After you said that whole thing about submitting to your husbands, I'm gonna have to say that.
	Oh, I changed your mind.
	Okay.
	So perfect man, yes.
	Perfect man, do you do it?
	For the perfect man, I do anything.
	The perfect man, do you do laundry first time you go to his house?
	Well, I don't know he's perfect yet.
	First time I go to his house.
	You, there's so much more to find out.
	Hypothetical, you know, he's perfect.
	Yes.
	Yes, you do.
	Okay.
	But he's not around.
	So.
	All right.
	Perfect.
	He's my husband, yes.
	Perfect man.
	Would you do it?
	Yes.
	Yes, she does the bow.
	You do laundry also for the perfect man?
	I have done that before.
	Okay, what about you, perfect man?
	I think, yes.
	Okay.
	Again, I've done so much.
	Is it just you now?
	Okay, so I'll focus on you for a little bit.
	No, don't focus on me.
	Hell yeah.
	I'm trying to think.
	Perfect man.
	How about this?
	Do you give up your career for the perfect man?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Give up your career for the perfect man?
	Gosh, that's a hard one.
	Because I really like shit talking and everything like that.
	Yeah, you have to do like social media to get the perfect man.
	By the way, the perfect man could be like a billionaire.
	So it's like you have to delete social media, no social media.
	All gone.
	you give it up for the perfect man in his heartbeat um You would rather answer.
	Let her answer.
	If he, yeah, if he took care of my family, because a lot of what I do is because I want my family to be safe and I want, well, that sounds bad.
	I want to be big enough or I want to start something big enough where I can have my family safe and I can take care of them.
	So if that man can do that, then I would be more than happy to give it all up.
	So yes.
	You said you give up your career?
	Yes.
	Social media too.
	I mean, if it can't be like, oh, we can't do a couple stuff on it and like family stuff.
	You can't have any social media.
	I guess, like, bye.
	Perfect man.
	Bye.
	You give up perfect or give up career for perfect.
	Of course.
	I'd give up career.
	I'd give up social media.
	Just say yes or no?
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	How about this?
	Perfect career or perfect man.
	So it's not just giving up your career, which for most people won't have the perfect career.
	Whatever the perfect career is, you have two options: perfect career or perfect man.
	Which do you pick?
	I guess the perfect man because I do it for my husband currently.
	Perfect man.
	Perfect man.
	Okay, all right.
	Kind of reasonable here.
	I don't know if I have anything else on the laundry thing.
	Please.
	Yeah, why laundry?
	Why did you choose laundry over like sweeping or watering his plants?
	Like, those are things that I might actually over laundry.
	Don't even wait.
	Hold on.
	I feel like dragging around the hose and like holding, like holding the hose, which I mean, it's like a few.
	Your hands get tired after a while.
	Yeah.
	Like holding up the hose.
	That's it's five pounds, but you do it for 30 minutes.
	Then how large is your lawn?
	No, I was saying like it's a it's a process.
	So anyways, don't get too excited.
	I'm not.
	Good for you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, it's like what's it called?
	I feel like cleaning.
	I feel like that's a bigger ask than laundry.
	But that's something that I would do before I would.
	You got to put gloves on.
	Like you got to clean a toilet.
	That's worse than that.
	Okay.
	No one said anything about toilet cleaning over laundry, but I'm saying like tidying up the kitchen or doing some dishes.
	It's just those are the things that I would do before if your hands have to get wet.
	Yeah, oh, I'm so into it.
	You like touching all the dirty food.
	I just do dishes.
	The chunks of food on the plate.
	When you have to clean the drain as well.
	That's the worst.
	I'd rather do laundry.
	Let's see here.
	You want to touch his dirty boxers and his director.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Somebody.
	You know what, though?
	I could have gone crazy with this shit.
	I could have been like, she's got to churn butter.
	Oh my god.
	Churn butter.
	I'm down with that.
	If she won't, find someone who will.
	If she wanted to, she would.
	Like, make me a quilt.
	Make me some fucking moccasins.
	I have done so much laundry for my ex.
	I used to go down three flights of stairs with no elevator to do his laundry.
	Like, no, I like that.
	Nit me a cardigan.
	If she isn't Amish, I don't know.
	She's not the one.
	It's some karate kid shit, though.
	It's like Mr. Miyagi.
	I train her so that she's ready for the All-Valley karate tournament.
	Yeah.
	That's what I think I deserve because never mind.
	Because you have a large backyard.
	Because I'm a king.
	I actually live in an apartment.
	I'm just kidding.
	What if, let's see.
	Hmm.
	Felicity knows.
	Okay, don't worry about it.
	Let's see if there was anything else.
	Oh, no.
	Women will poke the back of their throats with an F-boy's pecker.
	Oh my God.
	But won't cook for a billionaire.
	Not billionaires.
	Let that sink in.
	Let that sink in.
	Not for us.
	Okay, here we have, do we have some more chats?
	I feel like Pasty George here is going to murder me.
	He's going to shank me next time he sees me, man.
	Get to my freaking chats, Brian.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Great point from Chair 3 about the one night stand.
	She is based on that.
	Thank you, Pasty George.
	We love you.
	She loves you long time, Pasty George.
	Long time.
	I don't really.
	Do I have a button for that?
	I swear I do.
	Wait, hold on.
	It's going to be delayed, but fuck.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Western marriage is a humiliation ritual where a man has to bend a knee and offer his life to a woman and is at her mercy because she can, at any time, divorce him and take all his hard-earned money.
	Oh, me so honey.
	Me love you long time.
	Jeez.
	Are you too young for this movie clip?
	But you have the arm man, so you should know it.
	Look up full metal jacket.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right, guys.
	I'm going to start a goal in the YouTube section for super chat.
	50 super chats, yellow and up.
	We have one hour.
	I will wear a kilt next episode if we hit this goal.
	I'm starting the goal now.
	What is a kilt?
	The Scottish.
	It's like a superhero.
	You'd have to stand the whole time.
	Are you going to wear underwear?
	Andrew, here?
	No, you can't with a kilt.
	Sorry, hold on.
	Not.
	Wait, fuck.
	I got to revise that episode.
	Yeah, we're like, yeah, that's it.
	I can change it.
	Nobody sends a super chat yet.
	Remove.
	I rescind.
	Rescind it.
	I think Andrew will do that.
	You know what?
	Brian will wear a kilt to the debates next.
	We'll wear a kilt during.
	Actually, it would kind of be funny to do it with Andrew here.
	Yeah.
	An episode in November.
	I reserve the right to not have it be the Andrew episode, but I'm a nice guy.
	Maybe I'll do it.
	I might do it during Andrew's episode.
	Is Andrew here?
	We need to see what he thinks.
	Ryan will wear a kilt during an episode in November.
	50 super chats, 10 and up.
	Send that shit, boys.
	That was kind of.
	I know.
	I did that.
	I did it intentionally.
	Okay, Felicity.
	That shit was intentional.
	Letting your gay side slip out again.
	Word.
	True.
	It's true.
	He likes to do his gay impressions.
	I have a great gay voice.
	He does.
	But a kilt is not gay.
	No, I'm.
	Yeah, we're not saying the kilt is gay.
	The kilt is actually like giga masculine.
	Are you Irish?
	Are you Irish?
	Scottish, you mean?
	Scottish.
	Wow, that was really insensitive to the Scots.
	Can you please issue an apology?
	Scotts, are you Scottish?
	No, I don't think so.
	Why do you have a kilt?
	I don't yet, but I might fucking buy one so I can do the thing.
	Nice.
	I want you to look in the camera, though, and fucking apologize for being a racist.
	Is that racist?
	No.
	Gosh, he thought it was Irish.
	That shit's racist.
	They kind of look the same, no?
	Oh.
	What?
	Don't they?
	There's a cultural area between people just drink too much.
	Ireland is its own island, son.
	I'm Irish.
	Okay, Felicity.
	I am.
	All right.
	All right.
	Was there anything else on the bow thing?
	I don't know.
	No.
	There is stuff.
	there's more notes though we have some notes from hold on Where are we?
	We did Laura.
	You said you want to bring back celibacy, your final note.
	You also, I feel like you're partially based, though.
	You want to bring back celibacy and shaming and not celebrating ho behavior.
	Are you celibate?
	Yeah.
	For how long?
	A year and a half.
	Damn.
	Almost a year and a half.
	Good for you.
	16 months.
	Are you waiting until marriage?
	I haven't really decided that.
	I don't think so.
	But I intend that the next person that I sleep with is going to be my husband.
	But you won't wait until marriage, is that?
	I don't think so.
	But I intend for the next person.
	Right.
	You want the last guy to be your last.
	I see.
	The next guy to be the last.
	But you're not going to make him wait till marriage.
	Fair to say?
	Probably not.
	It's really hard.
	It's really hard.
	Well, what if he doesn't want quite literally?
	Whatever.
	Going to Paige.
	You write you have serious daddy issues in 10 seconds or less.
	Tell me why.
	Because I didn't know him until I was nine, and I never even saw a picture of him.
	And then he moved in with us, and he was a total jerk face.
	Hide this thing.
	Okay, and he was just a real asshole for 10 years of my life.
	And then when he left, the last words he said to me were Go Burn in Hell.
	I never loved you.
	You fucking cunt.
	Okay.
	That's a lot.
	That can definitely cause daddy issues.
	That can do that.
	I do have to say he's reached out recently, and he does seem like a changed man.
	And it's been put on my heart to forgive him, which is hard.
	But I'm hoping someday I can.
	So you, the big thing I wanted to talk to you about, I wish I got into it earlier because it's the sort of tail end of the show.
	You say you've been married to your husband for a while.
	You say you are by no means perfect.
	We bicker like a lot, but we get over it so fast.
	How does your husband feel about that?
	He knows I have a big mouth.
	He's always known I had a big mouth.
	I think it's something he's just tolerated.
	I'm by no means like a jerk.
	Like I don't name, I try my best not to name call.
	I try to be really respectful.
	And I tend to like storm off and then like two minutes later, okay, I'm sorry.
	I was being kind of crazy.
	And he always accepts my apologies, which is nice.
	Okay.
	You wrote that you also write related to this, you're pretty mouthy sometimes, and your husband is more quiet.
	When you say you're pretty mouthy, can you give us some examples of how you might mouth off to him?
	Like, pretend I'm your husband right now.
	If he like roleplay, though.
	Oh my gosh.
	If you snapped at me, he'd be like, can you not talk to me like that?
	Like, who do you think you are?
	Like, he does that or you?
	I do that.
	Or I'll be like.
	So you're saying he's mouthy to you?
	Like, if he snaps or is in a bad mood, you know?
	Or I'm trying to think if we like roleplay.
	He forgets things a lot, which I should let it go more, but I don't.
	So I'll be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you forgot this.
	Like, you don't even care.
	If you cared, you wouldn't forget.
	And then I have to step back and remind myself, like, he's a busy guy.
	He does a lot for us.
	So what are some things that he might forget?
	Like, he forgot to pick up something during an errand?
	He, like, oh, he'll go out to like pick up dinner or something, and he'll have to call me like three times, like, what do you want?
	And I'm like, you know what I want.
	I got the same thing every time for 10 years.
	Say it how you would say it when you're being pretty mouthy.
	I'd be like, oh my goodness.
	Like, don't you care about me?
	Like, if you cared about me, you would know my order.
	Yeah.
	As a person, I'm trying to be considerate.
	I know.
	I have to step back and I have to apologize and I have to be like, I'm sorry.
	I have a terrible memory.
	And I can tell you from the heart that it's never because I didn't care.
	I appreciate you saying that.
	And I'm sorry, Skylar.
	You also wrote, you also wrote related to this, you are by no means meek.
	You definitely talk back to your husband too much.
	You even wrote, we aren't even getting along that well right now.
	But there's no hint of a separation or breakup because you guys trust each other, remain close.
	You also never withhold sex and you often encourage sex.
	So, hold on.
	I want to give you a call to action that I hope your husband, and maybe you'll have some benefits with the kids too, might appreciate.
	That could fundamentally change and improve your relationship.
	Stop being mouthy.
	I always say to him, too, if I Skylar will never hit me because he knows I'll hit back.
	Whoa, I wasn't talking about it.
	I know, I'm just saying, but like, I'm always very much like, oh, don't come at me because I'll come at you.
	But like, I have worked on anger issues.
	I have not, I don't yell, I don't scream, I don't get loud, but I am a little mouthy.
	Yeah, stop being mouthy.
	Yeah.
	I'm mouthy too, but I can't help it.
	Oh, boy.
	You can help it.
	You can help it.
	I can't help it.
	Just have more people.
	I don't know.
	You got to show him deference and respect.
	Yeah, I've noticed recently, especially because since I became disabled, he does so much for us.
	And I feel a lot of guilt about the things I can't do anymore.
	So a lot of times I'll start to get mouthy and I say, wait, he didn't mean it like that.
	He's doing his best.
	But no sarcasm, no cattiness.
	Cut the rebelliousness.
	Be pleasant entirely.
	Drop it entirely.
	Okay.
	And I think, look, because you said he was quiet.
	So I mean, maybe I am misunderstood because you said he would sometimes snap at you.
	No, I definitely, like, he is quiet and I definitely overpower the conversation sometimes.
	Yeah, because like I think a lot of men, they'll be in the doghouse if they try to call out their girlfriends or wives on this.
	Like a lot of men just end up broken.
	Like it's crushing to a man to date a woman who's like snappy with you.
	And a lot of men, I gotta be, look, They don't want to create friction.
	A lot of men don't want to create conflict, especially in a you guys have been together for 13 years, married for 10.
	You got kids.
	A lot of men just in that situation, like it's one thing you've been dating some chick for six months and she mouths off to you.
	Man, I'm she's fucking dumped, but he can't just when you're married, when you got kids, you can't, that's that's not really an option.
	I mean, it is technically an option, but you can't really bring it there.
	Um, I mean, I would, I would correct my girl, but if it continues and she's mouthing off to me, goodbye.
	Yeah, he definitely shuts down, and that's when I'm like, I've gone too far.
	I need to, well, yeah, that's what was going through my mind when you said he's a bit quiet.
	Yeah, like a lot of guys, they don't, they don't uh call it out, they don't call it out because it's just gonna create more friction.
	And I think a lot of men's approach, I don't think it's the right approach, but they'll do this happy wife, happy life thing, but it's got to be happy spouse, happy house, because it's not just the wife that matters, both of y'all matter.
	But I think a lot of men, they uh they'll uh they didn't call it out in the beginning, and now it's just an established behavior.
	Yeah, it definitely became established, and now I have to do the work to not do it so much.
	And like I said, since I've been sick, I'm in this new role, which has actually been like really eye-opening.
	Like I said, I'm far from perfect, I mess up every day, but I'm absolutely trying.
	I always tell people, like, try to act like it's your first year, even when it's your 10th year, because your first year, you were on your best behavior, you were your sweetest, you were your most patient, and yeah, just but a lot of men will kind of be doormats a little bit with some of this shit.
	They'll uh, and like I'm not fully blaming them because there comes a point in a relationship when it's like you feel like your role as the man is just to like avoid friction and avoid uh tension and be the peacekeeper.
	But I don't know if I'm trying to from what I from what you've told me, I could share something, you gotta stop, stop that shit.
	Um, I also too, I was um, I'll share a little too much, but I was diagnosed bipolar a couple years back, and I am totally, yes, I'm on medicine, and so things are going in the right direction.
	And it just explained a lot, it really did.
	I had a crappy childhood, what can I say?
	And it's coming out, you know, with some issues, but you know, and I, but like I said, I'm really trying to do better, and um, I take a medication, and things are going really well.
	So, and I'm sorry, Skylar.
	Um, I hope later we can kiss and make up and at least you're self-aware.
	Yeah, that's big, that's huge.
	Yeah, you're aware, yeah.
	Once I start doing it, I'm like, wait, don't do this, you know.
	I mean, at least at least it's good.
	I mean, it's not good that you're doing it, but you said that two minutes later you come back and you apologize.
	That's you shouldn't do it in the first place, but at least it's like you know, you're not letting him sit in that shit for like three hours and whatever.
	I don't ever shut up if that's not obvious.
	And I, I like, I even when I'm mad at him, I'm like, hey, how are you talking to him?
	Like, and I'm like, just because I'm talking to you doesn't mean I'm not mad at you, but I can't help it.
	I can't help but talk to him.
	But it's uh, Proverbs 21:19: better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
	Oh, man.
	So do you nag him?
	No, actually, okay, I do a little with the like the air.
	You said he forgets stuff.
	That stuff, yeah.
	But like, yes, I will do that a little bit because he's, he does forget a lot of things.
	So the reminder is put his name, Skylar.
	It is.
	Put some respect.
	I'm my homie, Skylar.
	Okay, that was cringe.
	Sorry.
	He's probably laughing.
	He thought it was funny.
	You thought he was.
	Put some.
	You know what, Skylar?
	You see that?
	You think he's watching the watching?
	Skylar.
	Listen to me, bro.
	Check this shit out.
	You're going to put a sound clip on your phone.
	And it's going to be something like, Paige, put some respect on my boy, Skylar.
	Clip that shit, Skylar.
	Every time she mouths off at you, Skylar, if she mouths off at you, just play the clip.
	You'll be as neutral.
	Be like, look, Brian.
	Hey, it's out of my hands, Paige.
	Brian said to cut the shit.
	Okay, so we got to listen to the podcast host.
	You got to listen to the podcast.
	I don't think I nag him because I'm not like, oh, you could clean that better, or you could do this.
	I'd never do that.
	Like, I try to, like, I'm always like, I'm proud of you.
	You're doing so much for our family.
	I'll give you another one, Skylar.
	I rebuke ye in the name of.
	Okay.
	Clip that shit too.
	If she starts mouthing off.
	And then you can also do.
	Oh, here's another one.
	Here's a good one.
	The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Clip that shit.
	Whenever she's being fucking mouthy, I'll do it one more time in case.
	The lady does.
	Wait, hold on.
	Now the pressure's on.
	Chill out, guys.
	The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
	He's really good at impression, so he'll probably just start saying that, and it's going to make us laugh so hard.
	So actually, is that Shakespeare or something?
	Hamlet?
	Is it Hamlet?
	I don't know.
	Skylar.
	Just say that shit.
	If she's being mouthy, just be like, the lady doth protest too much.
	Something like that.
	Is that Shakespeare?
	Can anybody, Nick, Google it?
	The lady doth protest too much?
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Anyways, yeah, just cut that shit out.
	You know, for Skylar.
	It's Hamlet.
	It is Hamlet.
	Oh, my God.
	Fucking slam dunk.
	From Queen Gertrude.
	Fucking nailed that shit.
	Hamlet.
	Oh, my God.
	What do you guys think?
	That's like a food or something?
	What?
	We had to read Hamlet back in the day.
	Just kidding.
	I'm just joking.
	Okay, anyways, where were we?
	Let's see.
	Some of your other notes, though.
	Let's see.
	I'm remembering everything I wrote to you.
	I'm like, what's coming next?
	You said you disagree with some of the roles in the marriage that come up on the show.
	We kind of talked about that, though.
	Do you disagree?
	It's more about partnership than you.
	Partnership?
	Gross.
	Wait, didn't you say that it's been the best it's ever been now that you've let him take you're right?
	Yeah, fuck that shit.
	Partner.
	Oh my god, partner.
	Come on.
	We really are like best friends because we grew up together.
	I don't think women really want partnership.
	Is that not what a marriage is?
	No, it's not partnership.
	The man has his roles.
	What's wrong with gender roles?
	I just didn't know.
	I was genuinely asking.
	Partnership would mean that.
	I mean, it depends on the fact that reality, like the, you're one if you're looking at it through scripture, you know, so it's not even a partnership.
	Like, you're just one.
	Yeah.
	You also wrote that if you're lonely, get a here.
	Tell us the cat thing.
	The cat thing.
	Oh, if you're lonely, get a cat.
	Was it just don't ride any random dick?
	You said just don't just hop on top of a random dick.
	Or, better yet, open a Bible.
	Yes, sorry for pain, man.
	You said there are so many ways to not have sex, get pregnant, get pregnant, yeah.
	Take some responsibility, be safe.
	Okay, you say a two-parent household is typically always better.
	Okay.
	You say men should help with chores.
	I'm not his mom.
	I don't.
	I think obviously, like, the things I do do, he can expect me to do, but if he needs something else done, it's nice to be asked politely.
	Don't command me to do it.
	Like, I mean, I do almost anything he asks me.
	But I don't like when women say this, I'm not his mom.
	I know, I take that back after hearing your argument earlier.
	Yeah, well, because it would just basically like I never thought of it that way about the father thing.
	If you're a woman who's going to say, I'm not his mom, I'm not going to do these things, then you should be prepared for men to say, I'm not your dad.
	I won't do these things.
	Provide, protect, pay for dates, etc.
	I never thought of it like that.
	No, my dad.
	I never paid for dates.
	Okay.
	Please don't date your dad.
	What I'm trying to get at.
	I'm just joking.
	You know what I'm trying to get at there?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	Is the providing component.
	Men aren't your dads.
	Do that shit yourself.
	Let's see.
	Because if it makes you his mom to cook and clean and do chores, then it makes him your dad to protect and provide.
	Let's see.
	And then, like, if the women say, well, I won't do the mom things and the dad says, I won't do the dad things, then what does that leave?
	Companionship and fucking?
	There's no roles that we can, whatever.
	Okay, we did the bear.
	Something about the bear.
	Final thing for you.
	You say women should have all the opportunities of men, but the playing field should not be leveled.
	Oh, so you're talking like firefighters or police or military.
	The physical requirement should be the same?
	Yeah.
	Is that absolutely?
	And if you can't do it, you said you've kissed a lot of frogs, but you found a good one.
	You've been dating him for seven years.
	Your first relationship was the craziest, a lot of drama restraining order.
	But then you now have friends?
	Yeah, he's more like a big brother.
	Like a good friend.
	I see.
	Okay.
	But nowhere not in contact like that much.
	Okay.
	And you said crazy attracts crazy, so are you crazy?
	Probably.
	Okay.
	We have some chats here.
	Vector donated $70.
	Chair 3.
	I'm fascinated by Hitler too.
	Fascinated why a narcissistic, putrid dictatorial bunnies would seek to wipe out the flowers because of reasons.
	Oh, my God.
	A flagrant, drug-ridden, psychopathic, idiotic blowhard.
	Wow, Vector has a...
	So there's a couple Streamlabs changes words.
	It was dictatorial ass would seek to wipe out Jewish people.
	Is what the TTS meant to say.
	Oh, and he's curious why they would do that.
	Or is that what he was saying?
	What was the end where he was insulting somebody?
	He was talking about Hitler.
	Okay, good.
	Okay.
	Because he was a flagrant drug ridden.
	Oh, okay, okay, good.
	Chore XD donated $69.
	The reason men shut down, I know this because it's been me, is because not even our home brings us peace anymore.
	Avoiding you shouldn't be the path of least resistance.
	Keep that in mind.
	Good point.
	I think sometimes, not all, obviously, not all women do this, but with the nagging and the mouthing off or whatever, you start chipping away at a guy and you chip away, chip away, chip away, and they're like a husk of their empty husk.
	What's the thing?
	Shell.
	Shell thing.
	A hollow shell of their parents, something like that.
	Just saying, you know, the lady doth protest too much.
	Oh, gosh.
	I bet when he picks me up later, that's going to be the first thing he says.
	That should be the first thing he says.
	I've just given him rhetorical weapons to use in your marital disputes.
	Employ them.
	You must oblige me, Skylar.
	Employ these tactics in your marriage, I guess.
	Strategies.
	Marital.
	Okay, whatever.
	Let's see here.
	More notes.
	We have a few more notes.
	Uno memento.
	Sabrina, 35, and you've had terrible luck at dating.
	Yes.
	Let's see.
	You've had some bad relationships, a lot of ghosting.
	You're still single at 35, almost 36.
	You say, maybe you write, maybe I'm the problem.
	Maybe you're the problem.
	Why do you think that's the case?
	Well, my last relationships, they broke up with me for the same reasons.
	So I think we kind of touched on it a little bit.
	I didn't really believe them.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You write, although you're an independent working woman, you would like to eventually have a man as a partner to grow something, to grow with together, be able to provide our rules for the relationship.
	He's the provider of the family.
	You're the provider of the household.
	Yeah.
	Did you say you would do the laundry?
	I did the laundry.
	I think you said you.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I did the laundry.
	Okay, Soph.
	No, I would bow to the perfect.
	Oh, yeah.
	Soph.
	Soph?
	No.
	Soph.
	You, right?
	Me, yeah.
	That's your name, right?
	Sophia?
	Sorry, no.
	I don't know.
	Isn't your Instagram?
	Oh, yeah.
	Sorry, no one calls me Soph.
	Okay, Sophia, it's single as a Pringle.
	Yes.
	You said you were talking to a guy, only a talking stage, for less than a week before you ghosted him.
	Because why?
	His uncle told my parents it was on the 4th of July.
	I met this guy and we were just kind of talking.
	He was like super respectful.
	Like, he met my dad, shook his hand.
	So then we walked down to the beach afterwards, and then we were just kind of talking.
	He was my first kiss.
	Come to find out like five days later, his uncle told my parents, he was like, oh, yeah, no, she needs to stop talking to him because he's going through court for being in a drive-by shooting.
	Wow.
	Wait, did this happen after?
	Like, or he had already been.
	He had already, like, he's going through the court system.
	Okay, so that had already happened before you met him.
	Yes.
	And I had absolutely no idea.
	He was so with your parents within a week?
	We met on the 4th of July, and I was kind of at, it was like with like a party, kind of, not a party, but it was like the neighborhoods around, and he was just there because where we used to live is just a neighborhood party, kind of, if that makes sense.
	Okay.
	But yeah, so you know my parents talked about him.
	I think he was mixed.
	Mixed with what?
	Black, white.
	Okay.
	Pretty sure.
	That could be kind of romantic, though.
	You tell your kids, like, oh, yeah, first kiss.
	Like, you know, he was just kind of like fighting a felony charge or whatever.
	He was super respectful character.
	But he was very respectful, though.
	Very respectful.
	But did you talk to him about it?
	Or did you drop him immediately when you?
	He dropped him immediately.
	Yeah.
	But I mean, maybe he's like, I'm innocent.
	I don't really.
	Yeah, no, I don't care.
	Did you actually.
	His uncle is, he's very protective over my sister and I.
	We used to live in the world.
	But did you verify any of this?
	Like, is there actually a court case?
	I have no idea.
	I'm not risking it.
	I don't care.
	How old is he?
	19.
	He's from Fresno, I think.
	Was he the shooter?
	Of course.
	I don't know anything about it, and I didn't want to risk it because I trust his uncle.
	Like, with it was his uncle?
	Yes.
	Not your uncle.
	No, his uncle.
	Very close.
	Very close with my family.
	He was wasted on the fourth, and he was very clear that had he been not wasted.
	The uncle was wasted.
	Yeah, the uncle was wasted, and he was clear that had he not been wasted, he wouldn't have let me go down to the beach with his wait.
	Why is his uncle cock blocking him?
	Oh my god.
	Like, why is his uncle out for her?
	Yeah.
	But what I mean.
	The guy's trying to date a girl.
	Look, he's in a bit of trouble.
	If he's not an upstanding citizen, I mean, I don't think he had a job because the entire, like, the three days we were talking, I was working the whole time and going to the gym.
	And he was just like, oh, yeah, I just got done playing video games.
	Oh, no.
	And I was like, oh, I've got done at work and at the gym.
	I mean, it's good for you, I guess, that you became aware of some of this stuff.
	I would have maybe verified it, though.
	I mean, I just don't want to risk it because I trust his uncle.
	I don't think he would like to.
	Do you know the uncle?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He was our neighbor.
	Yeah.
	Neighbor when we first moved here for a very long time.
	Very protective over my family.
	Yeah.
	Was he Christian the guy who you were dating or whatever?
	No, I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	But you're like, you're Christian waiting until you're waiting until marriage, right?
	Yes.
	So why go on a date with a guy who you don't even isn't that important that the guy be Christian?
	Is that not what a date is for to find out?
	Well, did you guys talk at the party?
	A little bit.
	Like, hey, just curious, are you Christian?
	I don't know.
	To be honest, if he was Christian, I don't think he would be involved.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I said something.
	I was like, oh, yeah, like leaving room for God.
	And he was like, well, obviously.
	And I was just like, yeah.
	It was fun for the three days I was talking to him.
	That's okay, girl.
	Did not want to risk it.
	Yeah.
	Well, honestly, though, like for your sake, just to save yourself time, I know sometimes people say, oh, the dates just to get to know the person.
	I think it's fair.
	You can ask a couple vetting questions before you meet a person for a date.
	In your case, it's probably a deal breaker if the guy's not Christian.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, just be like, hey, just curious, are you religious?
	Are you Christian?
	Yeah, just that for moving forward, just ask if the guy.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah.
	I don't think that's weird to just be like, I wouldn't say, like, I regret it necessarily, but I probably wouldn't go and do that.
	First kiss, too.
	You have a.
	But he was very respectful.
	He was very, very respectful.
	It came out of absolute left field.
	I was like, but yeah.
	We have a chat coming through here.
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	Let's see here.
	All right.
	Sophia, you also write, how ridiculous it all seems.
	You have no experience, but strong feelings about dating, I'm assuming.
	Okay, what's ridiculous?
	Oh, I just like talk to my friend because she's very much in the dating scene and we're just we're talking about something and she's like, oh, love bombing this, like the three-month rule that and like all this stuff.
	And I don't know, call me old-fashioned or whatever, but it all just seems like retarded as hell.
	And it's like, let's go back.
	Yes.
	I just like, I want to find my husband, but like, I want to like do it.
	I don't know.
	It just seems too much to all the games.
	They're ridiculous.
	It's so stupid.
	There's all these rules.
	There's all these texting rules.
	I don't do any of that.
	I'm just like, there's all these rules.
	Like, I won't do a guy's laundry.
	Oh, my God.
	These women do these games.
	I won't do his laundry the first time I come over.
	I won't do it the first time I come over.
	I didn't say I won't do it at all.
	Gameplayer.
	It's not game.
	It's not a game.
	If anything, you're the game player.
	You're like testing Jake's.
	Like, oh, is she going to do my laundry when she comes over the first, the first time?
	Got to stress that.
	I don't think it's a test.
	Do you think he's normal?
	Who?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Normal?
	Like, by what standard?
	I mean, out of all of the people that I know, Brian is not.
	Don't worry.
	He's normal.
	She says I'm abnormal.
	A little.
	I said a little.
	Because I've never known a guy that wants bowing.
	Yeah, but what is normal?
	So normal is like...
	No, high standards is normal.
	what is the normal thing happening in dating it's basically like i think yeah you're in the wrong country dude women just like like men and women just like being in situationships and fucking a bunch of people Like, that's kind of normal.
	Fuck normal.
	No, it's absolutely ridiculous.
	I agree.
	I've never been in a situationship.
	I've never been in those things.
	And I've also never played dating games.
	When I was young, okay.
	When I was young.
	Yeah, that's normal.
	It is normal.
	No, it is normal now.
	Okay, but to expect a bow and to expect laundry on a first time over.
	Yeah.
	Wild.
	You belong in Japan.
	You're degrading.
	You degrade these men.
	No, it's wild.
	They're a wallet to you.
	These men are an ATM.
	Probably not.
	He should pay on a first date.
	That doesn't mean he's an ATM.
	You want like an old-fashioned girlfriend, but you don't want to get married.
	Oh, yeah.
	I kind of need to know that because I'm still not married, and I think the reason is the same you have.
	So tell me why.
	What do you mean?
	I don't believe in marriage.
	Why?
	Marriage.
	Why do you do that?
	Why do you do a little.
	You claim to be traditional, but then refuse to.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Actually, I don't really make that claim ever.
	I don't think I've ever seen that.
	We're talking about traditional roles.
	Husband and wife.
	So I believe that when we're talking about traditional, that this is, this word gets used in other ways, but I believe it's a spectrum.
	That might sound stupid or whatever.
	But I think most people are not fully going to.
	I don't think it's like you either are or you aren't.
	I think there's some degree of a spectrum to being traditional.
	In this case, I think I lean more towards traditional in some degrees, but as it relates to marriage, you're right.
	I'm not traditional on that front.
	So you're not religious.
	No, I'm agnostic.
	Although I'm pro-Christianity.
	But if you find the girl you really love and she wants to get married and you still don't want to get married.
	No, not even the perfect girl.
	Right.
	Because I'm a girl that really wants like the marriage.
	People aren't perfect, though.
	But why?
	Why what?
	Why do you not want to get married?
	Why do you not want to get married?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	So there's a whole bunch of reasons I think that.
	I think so.
	Marriage in the breakdown, the instance of a breakdown of a marriage when you're getting divorced, the state, the government becomes involved.
	I'm not a big fan of the government meddling and trifling in the private relationship affairs of people.
	So the government says, well, you know what?
	You've been with this woman for this long and you make this much money.
	She makes this much money.
	You need to pay her while she's fucking other men.
	You need to pay her $10,000 a month for the next five years.
	Fuck that.
	No government is going to tell me I owe a woman who's no longer fucking me money.
	Fuck that shit.
	You think I'm going to give, I'm going to, but the government's going to tell me to pay spousal support, to pay alimony to a woman who isn't fucking me and is fucking another guy.
	Fuck out of here with that fucking bullshit.
	Not even for kids.
	You're not going to have a fucking bullshit.
	Can you never do that if you have a prenup?
	I just want to tell you.
	Prenups get challenged.
	Prenups.
	Look, I'm not a lawyer.
	Prenups do get challenged.
	I think prenups can't always be protective.
	I'm not sure exactly if it can completely.
	I don't know if prenups can fully.
	I don't know what they're saying.
	They protect everything prior to your union.
	Yeah, I don't know if you can just, like, in a prenup, can you actually say, no, even if we've been dating for 10 years, I don't have to pay you alimony.
	I don't know if that's a thing you can do in a prenup.
	I think it's the assets you had prior to the marriage can be protected.
	Anything generated during it, I don't think can really be addressed.
	I don't think a prenup can supersede state law.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	I don't know.
	In any case, divorce is fucking terrible for the breadwinner, whether you're the woman or the man, but probably a bit worse for the men.
	So yeah, there's that.
	I understand that because Dr. Phil said, well, actually, he said, you don't divorce the same person that you marry.
	And I thought that was like really smart.
	But let's say, can you get married in a church without getting married like for the government?
	And there wouldn't be any ramifications legally.
	Sure.
	I don't care.
	So, although I do think blowing like tens of thousands of dollars on marriage is kind of stupid.
	It doesn't have to be four grand.
	I mean, still $4,000 for a girl that she has.
	$4,000 for you, that's a lot of money.
	What?
	That's a lot of money.
	It was.
	It was.
	I spent a lot of money.
	That's a lot of money.
	That's nothing.
	But it's celebrating.
	It wasn't at the time.
	I wouldn't say nothing.
	That's nothing for a marriage.
	For a wedding.
	For a wedding?
	Four grand?
	I've never heard anything like that.
	But some, are you guys paycheck to paycheck?
	Yes.
	$4,000 is a fuck ton of money for paycheck to paycheck.
	And back then, we made nothing.
	Where do you live again?
	Upstate New York.
	How much do you pay in rent?
	Per month?
	I have a mortgage.
	How much do you pay for the mortgage?
	Including escrowed in is $1,000.
	So that's really great.
	That's four months of her mortgage payment.
	Down the drain.
	Here's my backyard.
	Here's my backyard.
	Stand, motherfuckers.
	But for a lot of girls, it's like a girl who doesn't.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Did you guys catch that?
	Hold on.
	The girl who doesn't care about money just said $4,000 isn't a lot of money.
	No, not for a wedding.
	$4,000.
	We did have a whole lot of money.
	For somebody who's paycheck to paycheck, and that's a lot of people in the United States, is a lot of money.
	We had over 100 people, too.
	Wow.
	That really was like probably the food.
	But it was a lot of fun.
	It was so much fun.
	All I'm saying is I used to work in a banquet.
	I used to work at a hotel.
	And the weddings were upwards of $100,000.
	So when I think $4,000, and I've been to a lot of weddings that are expensive.
	You're at the Ritz-Carlton.
	That's true.
	Weddings are expensive.
	They're very expensive.
	It's a huge money.
	It is.
	It's a waste.
	It is.
	It's a huge waste.
	It's one of those dreams.
	I had to have one of my best friends just got married, and she.
	Grandma can sit on the fucking grass.
	No.
	Grandma can sit on the grass.
	I am so frugal.
	No, no, no.
	I am very, very frugal, so I agree.
	And I would never spend over 20 grand on it on one day of my life ever.
	But I will tell you.
	I mean, it's not a lot if you spend 50 grand.
	So back to your question.
	You were saying, oh, Brian, you don't want to get married.
	Why?
	I don't think you should sign a contract that sucks.
	I don't think you should sign a contract where somebody is rewarded for breaking it.
	Women, when they do break the marriage contract, when they do initiate divorces, by the way, 80% of divorces are initiated by women.
	I don't know.
	Women are rewarded for this.
	You mean if.
	You're saying when.
	Like, it's inevitable.
	No, no.
	When I say when, I mean when it happens, when it can happen, when it does happen.
	If it happens.
	I think like over 50% of the time.
	Okay, whatever.
	I know.
	It's sad.
	It's horrible.
	No, I used to be like you, yeah, when I was a little younger, I hated marriage, and I thought it was a scam.
	And it is kind of a scam.
	But I was going to tell you that alimony is still paid when you have children with somebody regardless of marriage.
	And I was going to ask you, you wouldn't want to pay your spouse alimony for the children or child support.
	Child support's different.
	Child support, I think that, I think there are compelling arguments for child support.
	Although I think that in many jurisdictions, like if you're a high earner as a guy, that child support, like the money you, The money as it relates to child support is not being paid up for child, uh, not excuse me, not being spent on child support.
	So, I think you know, in the same way with snap benefits, food benefits, you can all like you take your snap card or whatever to uh to a grocery store, you can't buy um, I don't know, if you take it to a CVS, you can buy, I know you probably shouldn't shop for food that's CVS, but you can go to CVS and buy like cookies with your snap thing.
	Sure, there's a debate over whether people should be whatever, um, but you can't like go and buy, I don't know, what um crutches or some shit, or I don't know what you can't buy like I don't know, maybe they sell cow, don't they sell maybe they sell like a pull-out chair at CVS?
	You can't buy a pull-out chair with your food benefits, there should be something like that with child support.
	They can only spend the money on something that's child support related, probably a little more complicated than food.
	But I do think that there's some abuses of the child support system.
	I think that there should be caps.
	So, if you're a high earner, you shouldn't be paying $10,000, $20,000 in child support.
	That's ridiculous.
	Alimony, get the fuck out of here.
	It's 2025.
	Women have full access to the workforce, women can work.
	No, maybe there's an argument that can be made.
	It should be proven, though, that like if I'm if you're a guy who makes five million dollars a year and your wife has a college degree, she can probably enter the workforce within a reasonable period of time.
	Maybe there's some argument.
	Okay, she's you've been married to her for 20 years and she completely didn't work at all and she dropped out of college to have kids with you.
	Okay, you can support her for a period of time.
	I'm willing to make some compromise three years, max.
	It should be circumstantial, three years.
	Circumstances, but but you've been married.
	I think in most jurisdictions, you've been married for 20 years.
	That's lifetime alimony.
	Yeah, I know.
	My mom, my mom got it.
	My mom was married for 20 years, and now for the last 20 years, my dad's been paying her.
	Yeah, and I have been telling him to go to do what?
	What?
	What can he do?
	He's being forced.
	Yeah, I mean, that's bad.
	There are some things that I think we haven't, but yeah, those you have to be.
	Well, I, in some European countries, they're way not nearly as retarded as the U.S. is when it comes to child support.
	Yeah, California's fucked.
	Child support, alimony, all this shit.
	But I still think divorcing is too easy.
	I agree.
	Anyway, I agree.
	But I don't know.
	Look, I think I don't think you mentioned prenups.
	I don't think a prenup is going to save a man if the woman is motivated enough.
	Women, women will, you know, even if the woman has good intentions, you step into a lawyer's office.
	Lawyers see money.
	They just care about money.
	They want to make, and I don't know how it works.
	Maybe the lawyers get some sort of percentage of the settlement from the divorce, whatever.
	And they want to keep it in court.
	They want the billable hours.
	So you could be a dutiful Christian woman.
	You step foot in that lawyer's office.
	They will turn everything.
	The lawyer, he's not, he's not approaching things.
	Yeah, he's going to get as much as he possibly can for his client.
	In fact, I think he has some legal obligation to represent his client to the best of his ability and get the best possible outcome, money for his client.
	Yeah, that's right.
	He has, I think he has a legal duty to do this.
	Yeah, you need to do your best effort or whatever as an attorney.
	You can't just be like, no, you know, we should do it.
	I mean, obviously, your client has final say, but lawyers are very convincing.
	Lawyers, that's their whole job, to argue.
	So, what would be your chess move if you find a girl you're together like eight years and you know she wants to get married?
	What will you do?
	Like, sit down and have something else on a table?
	Don't get it, don't get it twisted.
	I can stay with a woman for my entire life and take care of her, and we can have kids, but marriage is out of the picture because you're afraid of divorce.
	Uh, it's not for fear of divorce, that is the only reason that you gave us.
	Hold on, hold on, uh, I don't know.
	I get it, but um, I'm afraid of like, do you get engaged?
	Do you go to the church and have a reason?
	Do you have a wedding?
	What are you bringing to the table on that point for her not to lose the dream of it?
	So, I don't really gamble.
	Um, does that does that make me like I'm afraid?
	Am I afraid to lose money because I don't gamble?
	Yes, because you're doing a smart move.
	Or is it not about fear?
	Is it about looking at the chessboard?
	Or I guess, I don't know, whatever you're blackjack or poker or whatever, looking at it and being like, This isn't a good bet to make.
	It's a warranted fear, but it is a fear of divorce.
	Okay, sure, I'll grant it.
	So, okay, cool.
	I'm scared of being divorced.
	Oh, no.
	Well, that's why you aren't going to join in the U.S. Men should rightfully have some reservations and some concerns.
	Yeah, be more discerning of who they're getting with.
	That's really the problem.
	Well, it's not just that.
	You divorce a different person that you marry.
	Mostly it's true.
	Do you think most people, when they, by the way, divorce rate is what, 80% or some shit?
	I don't know.
	Or 50%.
	Sorry, 50%.
	Do you think most people on their wedding day think I'm going to divorce this person?
	I'm going to be divorced.
	No.
	Okay.
	50% of marriages end in divorce.
	So discernment.
	I mean, if a girl is bowing for you and doing those things for you, maybe you shouldn't break up with her.
	Well, break up with her if she's if things are going well, sure.
	But if she wants the marriage, she wants the wedding.
	Are you going to come to the middle of that and offer to have the wedding or getting engaged or going to the church, but not just getting married?
	There could be some compromise.
	There could be a compromise where it's like just like, I don't know, she wants to do the ceremony.
	So long as there's nothing legally binding there, I guess I'm okay with the ceremony.
	I still think it's a bit of a waste of money, depending on how much you spend.
	If it's a reasonable affair, I suppose I'd be open to it.
	But I'd be curious if there's any legal liability to even doing the ceremony.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	If there's not, let's just, if we grant that there's no legal liability whatsoever, just doing the ceremony, sure.
	I suppose I'm okay with it.
	I'm not going to spend $100,000 on the wedding, though.
	Fuck that.
	Yep.
	I'll spend, you know, a reason, what I'd think is a reasonable amount.
	But I'm not, no, that money can be better spent elsewhere.
	Doesn't the government in the United States deem you like legally married after eight years or seven years of there's common law marriage, but it depends on the state.
	In New York, they don't have it.
	In California, I don't believe there's common law marriage.
	Really?
	Yeah, so it's basically you've been living together, portraying yourself as married, or I don't know.
	Then some weird, funky common law marriage shit.
	That's stupid too.
	Fuck that shit.
	That should be abolished.
	Fuck common law marriage.
	That should only be a thing if, hey, we're agreeing to get married.
	You get a tax break for all that.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Divorce, the risk-reward is all fucked up.
	Only if you're dating somebody who's going to take you to the bathroom.
	Remember at the very beginning of the show?
	Well, it took us a long time.
	Going around the table, starting with you, Maria.
	How many relationships have you been in?
	About four or five.
	Of the four or five, how many of them did you initiate the breakup?
	I think all five.
	All five?
	How many relationships have you been in?
	Three.
	How many of those did you end?
	Two.
	Two of the three.
	How many relationships have you been in?
	Two.
	How many of those did you end?
	None.
	They broke up with you?
	Okay.
	How many relationships have you been in?
	Like the real, like a boyfriend.
	Sorry, a boyfriend.
	Not just dating?
	Six months plus.
	Okay.
	I guess one out of two?
	One out of two.
	Okay.
	Well.
	Two relationships.
	Did you end them?
	Well, one I'm still in, and the first one, no.
	Of the ones you ended.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Five people and three of them broke up with me.
	So I ended with two.
	And then, well.
	Yes.
	Women overwhelmingly end relationships.
	Women overwhelmingly initiate divorces.
	It's a bad deal for men.
	It's a bad deal for men.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Like, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like in a relationship, a guy doesn't kind of see or realize when things are going to shit before the relationship has ended.
	Like, before everything around him will change in his head, even though you go home and you argue every day, you're still in the relationship and nothing is kind of changed.
	But a girl goes through the breakup for months before she decides to leave.
	The men are oblivious.
	Communication, perhaps on both their parts, but so.
	Women, I mean, okay.
	Women initiate the majority of divorces.
	I think men will never.
	They very rarely, to be honest, they'll very rarely ever initiate a breakup or a divorce.
	But when they are not interested in you anymore, they will also make that very, very clear.
	So we're kind of pushed into the divorce.
	You get distant, you stop trying.
	Sure.
	I think that's fair to say that there are times where men will just create the opportunity for the woman to end the relationship.
	I think that that's a phenomenon.
	But in any case, even if this lowers the breakdown to 60% of the time, the woman is genuinely the initiator, not like the guys just being a kind of a dickhead or whatever.
	Still not a good deal.
	How long has the percentage been that high?
	Because in my head, it's because we have the social media and we have this and that.
	And women seem to just look around and want something else, even though we're not grateful about things anymore.
	Yeah.
	Like we think that it's just it's too easy.
	It's too easy to go out and date, too easy to find somebody who you think will appreciate you more.
	You ask a woman or a man nowadays, like, what was the woman's place 60 years ago?
	And they will be like, oh, it was terrible.
	was between a fist and an oven, but in reality...
	A fist?
	You don't have that saying?
	Okay, we have a saying like that.
	A woman's place is between a fist and an oven.
	I don't, it's like badly said.
	But yeah, we don't realize that women didn't vote or do things like that then because we had so much more things to do.
	It wasn't so important to us.
	And we weren't still suppressed.
	We just had different value.
	And we kind of forget to be grateful for the things guys did.
	I have two friends going through really nasty divorces.
	And both times it was very sudden and it was very abrupt, very random.
	And the woman did initiate.
	And it got nasty really fast.
	Brian, if you didn't know these statistics, if you didn't know how many divorces were happening and you didn't have that information, you might think differently about marriage.
	If you had no idea that the numbers.
	I mean, regardless of the numbers, the financial risk still exists.
	Even if it's lower, even if 40% of marriages end in divorce, 30%, 20%, it still exists.
	The risk is still there.
	So if you could have a prenup that will save you from that or protect you from that.
	It protects you from what's prior.
	But if you could have a pre-nup that will protect you later on.
	Okay, yes.
	In a hypothetical world where a woman would never divorce me, would I get married?
	Sure.
	Like she would just never divorce.
	I get sure, but that kind of defeats the.
	That's kind of the goal.
	Yeah.
	So like in a hypothetical world where a prenup can fully protect my finances in the same way as if we weren't married and we were just, she was just my girlfriend, sure.
	I'll get married.
	So yeah, so if you could trust that the breakup would be perfect.
	That's like the goal of the moment.
	But that's like asking me, hey, Brian, you see that ugly girl?
	If she was really beautiful, would you fuck her?
	I mean, if they like abolished alimony rules, they could abolish alimony rules.
	Yeah, that's true.
	We could vote on it, potentially.
	I don't think practically so.
	It's never going to happen because of money, but that would be great.
	Guys, we're going to lower the TTS here as we're trying to get this.
	TTS, $30 TTS, $30 TTS, roast session if you want.
	If you have a Q ⁇ A, you know, you have a question you want to ask.
	$30 TTS, it should be all changed.
	There it is, guys, if you want to get it in.
	$30 TTS.
	Also need to do that there.
	I mean, I think the big thing you also, even if you're like more conservative, you're Christian, you're more traditional.
	Hold on, let me get this pulled up.
	All right, $30 TTS.
	I think one of the big things, even like Christian people or traditional people, tradcons, whatever, they fail to realize is that the state presides over the marriage, not God, not the Bible, not your biblical values.
	When the woman is unhappy, even if she's a Christian, even if she's a virgin, all the factors that could make the likelihood of the marriage going the distance, when the woman is unhappy, she will go to the state.
	She won't go to God.
	She won't go to her priest or pastor or church.
	She'll have to, she has to go to the state eventually.
	If she's dead set on the divorce, maybe she, hey, pastor, should I uh blah, blah, blah.
	Should I get a divorce?
	They'll intervene.
	Well, no, the, I mean, I mean, unless you're Catholic, I believe Catholics, you uh, marriage is indissoluble if you're Catholic.
	Although, I mean, I think there's some, like, if the man's abusive, like beating her or whatever, like on the infidelity, can you divorce if you're Catholic?
	I don't know about Catholic, but it says in the Bible that you can, like, can what you can leave your spouse if they have an affair.
	It's like one of the only reasons.
	Oh, if you have an affair, I thought you meant just in general.
	Oh, no, no, not in general.
	My understanding, at least for the other Christian denominations, I don't know.
	I've heard some stuff about like defrauding.
	Like, if you married somebody and they promised to give you a fee and all this stuff in the world.
	Well, here, let me ask this: you marry a guy.
	You marry a guy.
	And maybe you, let's say you don't have kids yet.
	You marry, it could go either way.
	Let's do one at a time.
	You marry a guy.
	He treats you well.
	There's no abuse.
	He's kind.
	He treats you well.
	No, no abuse of any kind.
	But you're just, you fall out of love.
	You're vaguely unhappy.
	Does that warrant divorce?
	There would be a conversation about it first.
	I mean, there would be, I would try therapy, try to work it out.
	You do marriage counseling.
	You're still, he's not abusing you.
	He's still treating you well.
	He goes to the marriage counseling.
	You've just fallen out of love.
	You're vaguely unhappy.
	Does it warrant divorce?
	If that's something that we agree on, no, he wants to stay with you.
	You don't.
	I mean, if I don't want to stay with someone, I'm not going to.
	Your answer?
	If he wants to stay with me, he's still in love with me.
	So I need to do the work and fall back in love with him.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Absolutely no divorce.
	My mom always said that when you get into marriage, you have to close one eye for the sake of the children.
	I completely agree.
	Absolutely no divorce.
	Completely against that.
	I come from a divorced family and it tore us apart.
	So I would never do that to mine.
	No.
	Okay, pretty reasonable.
	In any case, though, you know, it's funny.
	You can do all the right things.
	You can do the trad thing.
	There's this, there's this guy named Stephen Crowder.
	He's a big conservative commentator, pundit.
	And my understanding is he married his wife.
	They were both virgins, both Christian, waited until marriage.
	This woman, you think all the, all the, the perfect, everything's perfect, right?
	She divorced him.
	She divorced him.
	She tried to ruin his life.
	She tried to ruin his reputation.
	She leaked, she leaked a, from my perspective, a fair, you know, some people might say the tone wasn't the best, a fairly marital dispute.
	They were having an argument.
	He wasn't, he was sitting on a couch.
	He wasn't hitting her.
	He wasn't, you know, verbally abusive or anything.
	But they were having an argument, as people do.
	We've all had arguments here.
	I'm sure none of us have been fully perfect.
	Uh, when we've had a disagreement with a boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever, did they have children?
	Yes, they had what two, three kids or something.
	Virgin, both of them virgins.
	She divorces him, not just divorces him, but makes it a very, very public affair.
	She leaks, her and her lawyers leak this again.
	He wasn't hitting her.
	It was like an argument.
	They were having an argument.
	And you try to do the trad thing.
	You virgin, wait till marriage.
	And that's an outlier for that situation, though.
	Perhaps.
	The vast, it's like less than 10% of people who wait till marriage together, they're Christian praying every day.
	It's like less than 10% of them get divorced.
	Yeah, that's true, but I mean.
	Like for other situations, that's very common, but for their specific situation, that's just very rare.
	Well, I don't know how rare divorce is, but with Christians, with Christians, like genuine Christians, it's very, very, very low.
	I don't know what the stats are, but where were they from?
	Around 10%.
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	Marriage ends in either divorce or death.
	Both are not good outcomes for men.
	Yeah, a lot of times men will die after their wives die, not too soon after, you know.
	If they're old.
	Yeah, I just don't see the benefit.
	Like, final thing on the marriage thing.
	I can tell you my reasons for not wanting to get married.
	Can you give me a compelling reason why I should get married or men should get married?
	I think it holds you accountable.
	Yeah.
	You know, I know it's seen as a negative thing, this whole prenup, but I was actually having a talk about this with Noah, but because he believes the same thing.
	He doesn't believe in marriage.
	W and Noah.
	We have the same thing.
	W, Noah.
	Stick to your guns, Noah.
	Go ahead.
	Marry this girl.
	It's more for safety.
	I know that we were talking about if someone were to commit adultery, how would you figure that out?
	How would you split everything and whatever you made during the marriage, especially if you're a growing couple?
	Obviously, before you sign a prenup, you have to read it.
	You have to agree with it.
	And usually both lawyers, I believe, are in contact to make sure that everyone's getting a fair share.
	But I think if you think about it more as safety rather than, oh, this is the other person.
	Safety for who?
	Safety for each other.
	How is it safe for me if I'm the breadwinner?
	Endless love.
	I actually think that the relationship is at greater risk of ending in a marriage.
	Why?
	I'll tell you why.
	Incentive.
	What's incentive?
	Incentive.
	If vaguely unhappy.
	Oh.
	Oh, let me just get a consult with an attorney.
	If I leave him, I get this much.
	Ooh, that starts to sound, oh, but if she's just my girlfriend, I leave him and I'm back to the streets.
	She belongs to the streets.
	Not that I would date a Value money has, but still, I hate the idea of arguing for money.
	So, in my opinion, to get married, it's like with the child support.
	I never wanted it because I didn't want our connection to be bad because of it.
	But I think that that's I think that's wonderful of you to do.
	In fact, even if you, you know, you asked him to help you financially, I don't think that that would be wrong.
	I mean, but I don't think a lot of women in your position do what you did.
	Yeah, I know, and I hate it.
	It's terrible.
	I think people argue for a little bit of money just for every woman like you.
	There's a hundred women.
	Hundred thousand.
	There's a hundred women who are gonna go to the court.
	They're going to, and I honestly, I agree with you.
	That creates a lot of like we couldn't, we couldn't just talk about this.
	You want to go to the law?
	You want to go to the court?
	We couldn't come to an arrangement.
	You want to bring it there?
	That's going to create, at least from the guy's perspective, like how can you bring life into this world with someone and afterwards argue about it just because of money that I don't get?
	Well, you're a gem because I can tell you a lot of women who find themselves, whether they become single mothers, they get pregnant, and the guy doesn't, they don't just let the guy off the hook.
	Oh, the scary part is a lot of women don't let men off the hook.
	They're very happy to go to the court system and then force the man to pay child support.
	There's actually even men like that, and that's actually a scary part.
	Yeah, it does happen to women, but it's very rare.
	Yeah.
	It's very rare.
	And I do think it is the case that even if it were to be like, you know, we started seeing women, you know, they were earning more than, well, they are in some ways, but if women just were out earning the men, I think men just intrinsically would be less inclined to like want to claw money from women.
	Yeah, they should.
	I'm not saying it doesn't happen.
	There's definitely men.
	It happened with Hallie Berry.
	She's paying fucking $10,000 a month to her baby daddy.
	I don't think they were married.
	Britney Spears paying $40,000 a month to Kevin Federline.
	They have two kids or three kids or whatever.
	There's definitely be a limit.
	I think men, though, overwhelmingly, even if the man, like, oh, she makes a lot of money, you as the guy don't, I think men will be less likely to seek that out.
	I think it's because of pride.
	So it's scary to know that women don't have that.
	It could be pride.
	And I think there's some cultural social dynamics there too.
	But I guess trying to think if there's anything else.
	The marriage thing.
	Do you think ending marriage would hold both sides more accountable if there was no such thing as marriage?
	Do you think there would be far less separation?
	Well, to your point, you mentioned safety.
	Yes.
	Why is it safe?
	Because my question was: look, I can tell you, here's all the reasons I don't want to get married.
	Give me reasons why I should.
	I can still, but I can still love a woman.
	I can still spend the rest of my life with a woman.
	I can have kids with a woman.
	But she has to give up the dream of being married.
	But also, like, yeah, it is accountability.
	But what do I get?
	Again, the question is.
	But when you're in a relationship, selfish, the other one being happy makes you happy.
	Yes, exactly.
	Way he's talking is like a divorced lady, selfish or a lady that initiates.
	Because that being in a relationship, like every time you want to do something, the other one wants to argue just so that if you go somewhere, you're going to be sad or mad.
	But why would there be a burden for a man to appease the whims of the girl?
	Why can't she appease my whims?
	But if she does that in every other way, she commits to you, she's submissive, but her dream is to wear that white dress, have that engagement dream, be the princess for a day.
	I feel like when you find the woman of your like genuine dreams, that might change a little, especially if she wants marriage.
	Because I know I've been very opposed to many ideas before, you know, meeting certain people, friends, whatever.
	And when I genuinely appreciated them, they changed.
	So, but that's just what I think.
	Maybe you just haven't met somebody where you're really willing to do everything.
	I mean, I've dated great women.
	Even if I met a great woman, this marriage thing is really a non-I mean, the only scenario in which I actually would consider getting married is, and I don't really care about a woman's career success, though.
	And I think I'm in terms of a woman's income, she'd have to be top 1% for her to earn more than me.
	Well, yeah, she would have to be.
	The only instance where it would ever make sense is if she earned just as much or more than I did.
	And even then, even if you guys do earn the same amount, divorces can be very messy.
	It can still be very messy financially.
	You have to untangle everything.
	Lawyers get involved.
	Even if you guys both make the same amount of money.
	Can you get divorced without lawyers?
	You can, I guess, but it's a complicated.
	Most people are not legally competent, I guess.
	So typically you have lawyers handle that.
	And divorces are expensive.
	Lawyers are expensive.
	So if she's a billionaire, oh, trust me, I want to marry her.
	Let's say you have kids together.
	You'll be together.
	Oh, money.
	It's so sad.
	That is because the risk has been eliminated.
	How about when you roll up?
	My concern with marriage, I don't mind, it's the financial component of it.
	The risk to me.
	She makes 10M.
	She makes 20M.
	She's a billionaire.
	Maybe you shouldn't be there so much.
	I'm getting down on one knee and I'm proposing.
	I'm getting, oh, I'm proposing.
	The most romantic proposal you've ever fucking seen if she's a billionaire.
	Trust me.
	Oh, God.
	Let's say you're not going to be a mother.
	I'm not going to divorce her.
	I'm like, I'm married to a billionaire.
	How would your life change?
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yes, if I'm married to a billionaire, sorry, I don't need a huckster.
	I don't need a huckster for some TTS donos.
	I'm good.
	Maybe I'll do this shit for fun every once in a while.
	But fuck, actually, not.
	Yeah, I was going to say, how would your life change if you went from today to marrying this billionaire?
	I would stop working tomorrow.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Hear that, guys?
	He doesn't really like me.
	Why are you shaking your head?
	Isn't this like your passion?
	What you like to do?
	Yeah.
	So I just got to end it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You don't think a man has hobbies he would like to do?
	What are your hobbies?
	How would your life change?
	Are you going to take up surfing again?
	I would, okay.
	I would fully focus on getting back to that.
	Fully focus on fitness.
	I would fully focus on recreation, travel.
	I'm pumping a couple kids into her for sure.
	Trust me.
	Actually, no, I want 10 kids.
	So I don't know.
	She's a 20-year-old billionaire.
	She's perma-pregnant for the next 15 years.
	And you're going to be a stay-at-home dad.
	Fuck it.
	I'll be a stay-at-home.
	If she's a billionaire, you're damn right.
	I'm gonna be a stay-at-home dad, and I'm gonna be the best stay-at-home dad ever.
	Oh, okay.
	At least I'm gonna fucking kill it.
	I'm a fucking 15-year-old.
	Give me the fucking minivan.
	Why do you want that?
	Give me the fucking minivan.
	Dynasty, obviously.
	But I'm like, hold on.
	There's this.
	So, so there's like a Bible verse, although I'm agnostic, that resonates with me.
	I'm gonna fucking butcher it.
	But sons, I think it's sons in a man's youth, but hold on.
	I'm okay.
	I'm pushing it a little bit here with my age.
	Sons.
	Nick, can you find me the quote?
	Wait.
	Sons.
	Like arrows in the hands of a warrior are children born in one's youth.
	Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them.
	Wow.
	Blessed is the man whose quiver is full of arrows.
	Sons.
	Yeah, fuck it.
	Give me 10 kids.
	10 kids, yeah.
	Because look, you know, you gotta, I want at least two or three sons because I want my son.
	Well, I want my sons to have a brother.
	But maybe one of them's a fuck-up, so I need a backup.
	So I need three sons and then whatever.
	You know, the older they get, the more definitely you will get girls.
	Well, there is something I heard: men who are stressed out, it has an impact on the sperm, and it's more likely to be a girl.
	If you're that's why, that's why, like, really like super, I think, super masculine guys, or um, I'm not, I'm not saying I'm like super masculine, whatever, but I'm saying, um, men who like have stressful jobs or I don't know, they're just stressed for whatever reason, they end up having a lot of daughters.
	And you see that with like some of these like super high-achieving men who are also probably stressed.
	True, they end up having a lot of daughters.
	Also, they're cursed.
	Uh, guys who are players always end up having daughters too because they're cursed because they're fucking around, I guess.
	Yeah, so you're gonna be okay with a woman who gave you 10 kids, so you're also okay with the fact that her looks will definitely change.
	You're still gonna be grateful for that wife and for that.
	She's my uh, in this case, my billionaire wife.
	She's she's the mother of my children.
	How about if she's not a billionaire and you don't have to marry her?
	You're still gonna love her.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, she gave me children.
	It's okay, you're got some loose skin around your belly.
	I don't care.
	Honestly, since having kids, like, I've never been, I'm the most comfortable I've ever been in my body.
	Like, I like the way I look, I like the way I feel.
	This belly gave me kids.
	I don't really care what anybody else thinks of it.
	So, yeah, I mean, look, and if me personally, look, men and women have been having children for thousands and thousands and thousands of years, longer than that.
	Wasn't an issue, wasn't it?
	Yeah, but nowadays seems to be.
	It's like okay, yes, society's fucked, culture's fucked.
	I get it.
	Am I the only one who thinks that adults nowadays are just grown kids?
	Like, we want Christmas calendars, probably a little bit full of the adventure.
	Yeah, like we're adults.
	This guy's playing video games all the time.
	We don't want to take any responsibility about anything.
	Yeah, we don't want to get a wife who's going to look different after having kids, but still, we want the kids if we want them.
	It feels like we live among grown kids.
	I just want to say if there's any billionaire women watching this, call me, I guess, but yeah.
	I'll let you know if I ever see one.
	Yeah, shit.
	But it wouldn't be like, it wouldn't be some ploy, like, oh, I'm gonna marry her and then divorce her.
	You just need to stay with her over money, even if even if she's possible.
	No, of course she has to be a good person.
	She has to have the other traits I care about.
	But I'm actually, to be honest, they can be overlooked.
	No, I'd be willing to.
	I would be willing for a genuine billionaire woman.
	There's a couple things I'm willing to settle on.
	Do you know how many there are?
	Billionaire woman?
	First off, there's not a lot through divorce.
	I think exactly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Would you do that one?
	Mackenzie Scott, Mackenzie Bezos, whatever.
	Yeah.
	She's still kind of a babe.
	I mean, she's like 50 or whatever.
	Wait, would you do the one thing in the bedroom that you say you won't do?
	Oh, that's fine.
	Sure.
	Why not?
	Billionaire?
	Bro.
	I don't think you understand how easy my life would be.
	I don't think you guys understand how much a billion is.
	I do.
	Billy.
	I don't think you know.
	I don't think you know.
	But what was I saying?
	No.
	I mean, look, if I'd want some of the things that I care about to be in place, but am I willing to give a little bit if she's a billionaire?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, if you don't, you lie.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	What's a she has an innie instead of an Audi labia?
	Like, I only date women with Audis.
	Well, if you like them, why are you so afraid of that?
	Let me not talk about that.
	Afraid of what?
	Going down on chicks.
	I know what you're saying.
	Okay, that's a good idea.
	Never mind.
	I'm not thrilled to show anymore, please.
	Derail about the marriage.
	Don't worry about it.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Finally, if she has like the smallest any ever, but she's a billionaire, I'm taking the deal.
	I'm taking that deal.
	If she, I don't know.
	There's probably other things I can think of.
	I don't know.
	Tell you what.
	How about this?
	Like, looks-wise.
	So, okay, here's my here.
	I'll present the example.
	She's a 10, but she's broke versus she's a seven, but she's a billionaire.
	I take the seven.
	I gotta take the seven.
	I feel like that's that's a pretty reasonable billionaire.
	Yeah, you know.
	Yeah.
	What if she's like versus like a 10, but she's zero and I have to like work for the rest of my life?
	Actually, you know, I'm doing pretty well.
	So shit, do I take the 10?
	A billion dollars?
	That's a lot.
	Yo, chat.
	Let me ask the chat.
	Oh my god.
	Chat, chat, chat.
	And you have to include how much you make in your response.
	Chat, do you take the broke dime piece or do you take the billionaire, but she's a seven?
	What's your seven?
	I don't know.
	Whatever it is for anybody.
	By the way, if you marry a billionaire, you don't have to work as the man.
	Here, Nick, put it on Twitch and then just pull up the chat.
	It's probably might be actually whatever.
	Billionaire.
	Seven, seven, seven.
	They take the seven billionaire.
	Seven broke seven.
	Wait, broke seven?
	Somebody says broke.
	So you take the broke seven.
	Okay.
	Billionaire.
	Billionaire.
	You found her a man.
	Chat, just repeat.
	Not because you would be a seven, but because go ahead, pull it up.
	Repeat your answer.
	So you got you take the seven billionaire over the ten brokey.
	Is it just a 10 in looks or are they perfect?
	Like to you, the personality.
	Well, let's just say personality is the same for both.
	Oh.
	Personality is the same for both.
	But the 10 looks, but broke.
	Seven billion.
	I'm seeing a lot of sevens.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wow.
	I think the only time you make the trade is like if you're already wealthy.
	If you're already a wealthy guy, then you pick the 10.
	Look at that.
	Well, who's more super famous?
	Someone's a billionaire than the rich woman or the hot one.
	I don't know.
	Seven is a really high number.
	Yeah, he says broke 10.
	Boke 10.
	I got my own loot.
	Yeah, if you're already rich, you probably take the 10.
	Yeah, making 90K.
	So, yeah, the thing here, if you marry a woman who's a billionaire, you don't have to work anymore.
	You're on the fucking yacht.
	You're on a yacht.
	You got everything's taken care of.
	Anyways, okay, final few things here.
	Hold on.
	Sorry, and lending this street.
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	Final call, guys.
	Get a message.
	Having been divorced, cheated on, heart-ripped out, given up.
	I've found new love and we both agree there's no need for marriage.
	That's good.
	Congratulations.
	That's amazing news.
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	Thank you, man.
	Ladies, if you're not going to give up to Poon Poon after you leave the marriage, you're not entitled to half of anything I have.
	Oh.
	Like, imagine if there was like pussy alimony.
	Like, once a month, my ex-wife has to fuck me.
	Do you want to after she's ripped your heart out and threw it on the ground?
	No, but I'm just saying, imagine.
	Imagine.
	Like, once a month and every other Tuesday, a BJ.
	You'd be like, what the fuck?
	Why do I have to give her money?
	We ain't fucking anymore.
	Yeah, you have a point.
	I don't agree about the lemon thing.
	Okay, final notes for Sophia.
	You said, your thoughts on feminism?
	Um.
	That it's led to, well, the main cause of just like the degradation of society and why everything is so bad right now with culture and dating and everything.
	Which you already kind of touched on that earlier.
	But even from like the Seneca Falls Convention in like, what, the 1800s, they were like denouncing Christianity and like the values and everything.
	So to say it's just modern.
	Maria, you had one thing here.
	Open relationships.
	Have you been in an open relationship?
	I've been offered that, but declined it.
	Smart girl.
	And then Tori.
	Tori, Tori, Tori.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What denomination Christian are you?
	So I'm going in between being a Catholic or an Orthodox.
	Okay, and you did have some disagreements whether or not women should be included in the draft.
	What was your position?
	Ma, well, I say, do we really want women in the draft?
	I mean, we have.
	For the sake of equality, yes.
	Yes, but at the same time, you're going to be having, you know, they have.
	Should women be allowed to vote?
	If they're voting for the right person.
	Are they?
	I think that they should be allowed to vote, but.
	And they should be drafted.
	But only for local elections.
	Well, it's like you're going to have all these healthy young women who are drafted during the years they are most fertile and they can have the safest children or have children.
	Are they having children?
	Are women having children in 1890?
	Maybe we could argue if somebody plans to have children, then they're not going to be able to do that.
	So we should force them to.
	Should there be a draft?
	Should there be a draft that women, they can pick their partner, but you have to have a child.
	Should there be a birth draft?
	Is it army that should talk about draft?
	Yeah, the military.
	Like forcing people.
	There's a lot of facts that a woman in the army, like as in a war, it would just be a shit show.
	Yeah, that's the honest truth.
	It will change how the guys act.
	Women can volunteer for the military, but there's roles that women can fill in the military.
	There's plenty of pencil pushers.
	Why not let them be drafted?
	Because if we're not lowering the requirements, they're not going to make it anyway.
	Only the strongest of the strongest.
	Well, when you get drafted, everybody gets drafted.
	Well, I mean, if you have health or different things.
	I wanted to go to the army.
	I was just pregnant before when I was trying to get.
	Well, there you go.
	But look, I think if women are allowed to vote, they should be drafted the same way men are.
	I kind of think that people that have been unemployed for a long time shouldn't vote, but it doesn't depend.
	Yeah.
	Because you're kind of being out of the world and everything that happens and everything that has to be decided on.
	Okay, well, that's a separate conversation.
	We're not going to talk about that.
	So the draft.
	You have to pay taxes to vote.
	Interesting.
	So women should not be drafted is your position.
	I think it'd be a terrible idea.
	So yes.
	It's true, but I think for this sake of equality, we should draft women.
	Well, I feel like that's a little bit of a petty thing to do.
	Well, I understand where you're coming from.
	The petty thing would say for the next 300 years, only women fight.
	That would be equality.
	We'd also, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to put down women, but I feel like we would all be in a very terrible place if that women can't be.
	Our country would be in a horrible position.
	It's drafting like you have to go there.
	So why can women be?
	But Israel has that.
	Why do women get to vote on wars, but they never have to fight them?
	Well, Israel has that.
	It's four years for guys and three for good women.
	That's like one or there's only one or two countries in the entire world that have mandatory conscription for women.
	Maybe it's only Israel.
	Every other nation, every other country in the world, the United States, it's only men.
	Only men can be drafted.
	In fact, in some countries, there's four, like it's not just the draft.
	In some countries, regardless of wartime or not, you have to go to the military.
	Like you have to join the military as a man for two, three, four years.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, women should be drafted.
	Absolutely not.
	In a way.
	Absolutely, yes.
	Like you, in a situation of a war, women can help.
	Send them to the front line.
	Send them to the front line.
	Absolutely not.
	I don't think that you can.
	We're not the same.
	We're not the same.
	I do think it.
	I do think it.
	Well, hold on.
	Then why?
	Then that makes women a privileged class.
	We are.
	Of course.
	I've said that from the get-go.
	Right, but if you want to have equality and feminism.
	I don't.
	You don't, but you do acknowledge that like the sort of stop, stop.
	The mainstream cultural zeitgeist is mu-equality and mu-feminism.
	And I have been calling it bullshit the whole time.
	Yep.
	Women have had the vote for 100 years.
	Feminists have failed to equalize forced military conscription.
	Either revisit the vote, revisit the vote, or get drafted.
	I'd rather revisit the vote.
	I would way rather lose my right to vote.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	Throw me on the table.
	I would love to.
	If there was a choice and you could vote on this, I would love for women to vote.
	If you could vote.
	Women are on the verge of being forced to go to war, military conscription, being subject to military draft.
	You can evade it, though, if women vote to rescind their ability to vote.
	Okay, no, women don't have to.
	Do you trade?
	Do you make the trade?
	To never be able to vote again or to have to.
	To give up your right to vote, but you can never be drafted.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I see good and bad in both.
	Just answer.
	Quick.
	Yes.
	I'm not voting then.
	Yeah.
	Not voting, giving it up.
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	No war.
	Yes.
	Not voting.
	All right.
	That's interesting.
	Absolutely.
	I typically vote the opposite of the females that I know.
	So I would rather them not be voting than have to be drafted.
	Yes.
	The only thing is, though, is that it is completely politically untenable to ever even have a conversation about walking back women's rights to vote.
	Ergo, women should be drafted.
	That's the only practical thing that would ever happen.
	Women are never, women's right to vote will never be relinquished.
	That's true.
	If we keep pushing forward, it's just going to be a lot of people.
	Whether you're conservative.
	No, well, I'm actually, look, I don't have a strong position on walking back women's right to vote.
	I think there's obviously consequences.
	Yes, I want women to go to war.
	Wow.
	They should be drafted.
	Look, just because I understand in terms of what is politically tenable, you're not getting rid of the 19th Amendment.
	It's never fucking happening.
	It's not even worth having a conversation.
	Thus, what is actually the reality?
	Women do have the right to vote.
	Cool, let's create equality between men and women.
	You guys want equality?
	Let's give you equality.
	You're not getting drafted.
	Don't worry.
	I was subject to it.
	I had to register for the selective service to even be eligible to vote, to receive financial aid, to get student loans.
	If I ever wanted to have a federal job or something, you have to be registered with the Selective Service.
	But you didn't get drafted.
	It doesn't matter.
	I was subject to it.
	Women weren't and never have been subject to it.
	If shit popped off with North Korea when I was 18, trust me.
	Shit popped off with China, Russia, whatever.
	But that's one of the reasons that makes me as a woman back there.
	That motherfucker is eligible.
	That guy's fucking eligible.
	No, we're so lucky.
	We are.
	By the way, I didn't mean motherfucker in a weird way.
	I didn't mean like in a.
	Yeah.
	Okay, good talk.
	Women are privileged.
	They are.
	All right.
	Again, I love it because even.
	How about rather than drafting women for combat?
	They can be drafted to the babies if we fall below replacement rate.
	Would you take that trade for equality?
	Honestly, yeah.
	Like I plan to have children anyways.
	I don't see the problem with that.
	Yeah, but forced like tomorrow.
	I think most women and most feminists would have a way bigger issue with a birth draft versus a military draft.
	Yes, yeah.
	Like that seems probably in some ways.
	Yeah.
	Moving on.
	You said body count doesn't matter.
	What?
	Or the disagree?
	Body count doesn't.
	Oh, you agree?
	Oh, yeah, yeah, body count matters.
	Okay, you said, I don't know if this is a disagreement.
	All women, men are beautiful.
	You agree or not?
	Yeah, I don't agree with that.
	Oh, okay.
	Never mind then.
	That's like related to the one to 10 thing where, yeah.
	Okay.
	Uh, let's see here.
	Um, Oh, you once did this man that, do you want to fill in the blanks?
	Uh.
	I think I mentioned it in the beginning.
	God wanted you to have nothing to do with me.
	Yeah, so what happened, just very quickly, I met this man when I was doing school in New York.
	And this was during the time I was going through some financial struggles with my family.
	So I was at boarding school, and unfortunately, I had to leave and literally didn't have a place to go because I didn't have the, or I chose not to go back to Morocco just because there were some issues with my family at the time.
	So I was dating this guy simultaneously.
	And the funniest thing was I asked God if he wasn't for me, then to just take him away from me.
	And the next thing I knew, literally within, I think, five days, I was in the opposite side of America, you know, living with my aunt who was helping me at the time.
	And I kept going back.
	I kept pushing.
	I kept trying to keep the long distance.
	And all the signs were there.
	And I kept just asking God or kept just ignoring him.
	And when I went back to New York to do a modeling campaign, unfortunately, I had gotten a call from my friend, who was the same friend who would later tell me a different thing about my boyfriend or ex.
	And her boyfriend got on the call and told me that my ex had been talking bad about me the entire time, that he didn't want anything to do with me ever since I came.
	That he was saying, oh, I'm just gonna, if I meet her this time, I'm just gonna sleep with her and I'm gonna be done with it, which was kind of appalling because I never could have saw it through him.
	But funny enough, I still tried to mend things.
	I still tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because there was no evidence and it was just hearsay and I was convincing myself that it wasn't true.
	And when I was going back home on, and I was in the airport, it was just a lot of bad stuff to happen one after the other.
	I lost my wallet, missed my flight.
	When I got home, you know, I had gotten a call from my friend again.
	And this was right after I had sent an apology text and he replied to it saying that he was sorry as well.
	And she had told me she was just like, hey, I need you to look at this photo that my friend sent me.
	And it was a screenshot of his hinge profile.
	So yeah.
	What was the thing about the accusations?
	When you say accusations, what do you mean?
	Accusations.
	In here, you say, we argued, but due to lack of evidence, I decided to drop the subject and apologize for your accusations.
	What are the accusations?
	So the accusations were that he was telling his friends that he didn't want anything to do with me.
	His best friend telling me that he didn't want anything to do with me.
	All right.
	Final one or two things here from your notes.
	Let's see.
	You say modern day feminism has ruined dating?
	Yes.
	Did you want to kind of jump into some of that stuff?
	Yeah, I'll dabble a little bit.
	Yeah, we have empowerment all warped now.
	It's almost like we're going backwards and it's becoming almost animalistic to a certain degree.
	There's nothing empowering about sleeping and trying to get that body count higher.
	I literally had an argument with a man about this the other day and it was shocking to me how he was trying to convince me that it was empowerment, which I'm sure would be more beneficial for him.
	But yeah, no, it's not empowerment.
	Think that the best thing we can do is tell other women that there are things that we can do, and there are things that we cannot ever measure up against a man.
	So, but that's okay, and we need to be fine with what we are biologically made to do.
	So, yeah, that's my view and take on why modern day feminism is bringing us backwards.
	Yeah, it creates shame to sleep around and be free.
	Yeah, it's like OnlyFans girls going out in public looking like half naked, and then they're like, Oh, why are you looking at my body?
	I don't think that we should be shaming because directly OnlyFans girls, there's another thing you would never see me throw dirt on another girl's name because I truly believe to claim that you care about women and still like point your fingers at certain people.
	You would need to understand that the reason why we have OnlyFans is partially because of feminism, but also because there's a demand where there's products and a crazy amount of people.
	But there's not enough judgment for it, like it's normalized now.
	Yeah, it shouldn't be normalized.
	I think it shouldn't be.
	I do think that we should be having these OF celebrities promoting makeup brands.
	I don't think so, but at the same time, to drag people's name in the mud, it would be like to point your finger at a prostitute and be like, oh, you're a whore.
	When in reality, you just don't know what she had, why she went there, who told her that.
	But by definition, she is.
	I'm not going around like, you know, slut-shaming people, but I absolutely think that to some degree we should slut shame people.
	I don't think that's a problem.
	The problem becomes when you lose your empathy, and it's not coming from a place of love, it's just coming from a place of pride.
	So, if you're going to criticize a prostitute, it should be out of love.
	It should be, hey, you're better than this.
	You need to turn to God.
	It shouldn't be out of your ass, or you know, that's why also we've kind of lost the reality of things.
	It's we have this delusion that you can like eat your cake and save your cake, like having to like you can be there and you can be naked, and then you can come out of there and be like, oh, I'm not angry.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, no, you can't power and it's soul-destroying, and they don't realize it until it's too late, and they're trading that for a dollar.
	All right, rock and roll.
	Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap up the show?
	I love this panel.
	Me too.
	Hitler is very, very, very interesting.
	What the fuck?
	There wasn't enough arguments.
	There was a lot of fight.
	Yeah.
	Like, fight a little.
	I fought with her.
	Yeah, he did.
	Yeah, but he didn't pen anything we don't agree with.
	Like, massively.
	There's really not a lot that we disagree on.
	It's just the nitpicking.
	It's just the nitpicking.
	A lot of rage baiting.
	There's no rage.
	I wasn't rage baiting everything.
	I believe in everything I say.
	I think you do believe it, but I also think you were kind of like picking, poking, picking, poking a little bit.
	Right?
	Just a tiny bit.
	No?
	Not really.
	Felicity, any final thoughts from you?
	No.
	I'm not pleased right now.
	Why?
	I'm hungry.
	Oh, my God.
	There's so many stacks back here.
	I'm so bored of a question.
	Did you try some of that?
	Oh, my God, Felicity, be a good supporter.
	What the fuck?
	I'm trying to have so much patience.
	I really am.
	But you asked me what I thought.
	I told you.
	See, it was just honest.
	Sorry.
	Wow.
	Not a trooper.
	Felicity.
	L Felicity, not a trooper.
	L Felicity.
	You guys try sitting here for eight hours.
	They do.
	Yeah, we do.
	People in the chat.
	Especially she's got a ball and chain, you guys.
	Free Felicity in LA last night.
	It was crazy keeping everybody awake, right?
	But it was great because, yay, Dodger.
	Where are you staying?
	Or what vicinity?
	Well, I was in.
	All right.
	You guys can talk about that after the show.
	Later on.
	All right.
	Well, GG to the panel.
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	Quick thing on our upcoming schedule.
	So I'm not going to do a whatever Wednesday this week.
	I have Andrew coming.
	Debate, dating talk, debate.
	At least two debates.
	We might, depending on who we can get, we might try to squeeze in one more.
	But we do, fingers crossed, you know, whatever things happen.
	But two debates, dating talk, Andrew Wilson back in studio.
	It's been like six months.
	It's going to be good.
	We got some good shows lined up for you guys.
	No whatever Wednesday, probably this week, next week.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	And just reminder, guys, just stay until the stream ends.
	Leave a nice little comment.
	And I'm trying to think.
	Oh, hold on.
	How about the killed?
	Are you wearing that?
	No, we did not hit.
	I don't even think one super chat came in that met the threshold.
	But we have this final message here.
	Final message.
	Whole nine yards donated $30.
	The countries of Chad, Denmark, Eritrea, Guinea-Bissau, Israel, Mali, Mozambique, North Korea, Norway, and Sweden all have mandatory military service, which also includes the females.
	Okay, so the other 193 countries, I was off by, you know, I think I said one or two countries have it.
	What is that?
	10 countries or so.
	The other 180 countries don't have anything that can compel women into military service.
	All these other 180 other countries or whatever have male-only military conscription, and some of them, whether there's a draft or not, force men, all men, to join the military for a period of time.
	Go ahead.
	I think the big difference with the U.S. is that you guys are the ones who always go into conflict to stop it after things go too crazy.
	None of those other countries go somewhere to stop the war, but it's always the U.S. That's why I really appreciate you guys.
	U.S. is the hero.
	We intervene in all of the world.
	We are the whatever, though.
	So I guess for the world police, I don't know if that's a good thing, though.
	For the rest of us, it is costly.
	I don't think it's, I guess it's good for other Western countries, but it's not good for America.
	I don't think it's good for America that we are spending all this money on the military.
	Well, I think it's good we have a strong military, but that we're meddling in all these conflicts.
	That's not good for the American people.
	It's too much nowadays.
	Thinking about world wars and stuff, none of them would have stopped without the U.S.
	We have all this money for like ICBMs and fucking, I don't know.
	All this shit.
	It's like a lot of money.
	And like, we should be maybe focusing on the American citizen a little more first.
	Yeah, like in the airplane when you get the mask on, it's always, it should be always you first.
	Yeah, and then you can help.
	Yes, maybe we can revitalize our infrastructure.
	Maybe we can help out the homeless.
	We can, you know, anyways, whatever.
	Okay.
	Maybe we maybe we could be taxed a little less.
	That would be the higher tax than you, dude.
	Maybe, maybe the IRS doesn't literally.
	Well, not, it wouldn't be literally.
	Figuratively, fuck us.
	Okay.
	That's pretty much it, guys.
	Again, Andrew Wilson coming.
	I shouldn't have paused there.
	Andrew Wilson will be here in studio, I believe, scheduled Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
	Debate, dating talk, debate.
	All right, guys.
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