Whatever Podcast - $20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER?! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY?! Brian DEBATES Feminist!

Sept. 29, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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$20,000,000 MINIMUM To Date HER?! ACCUSED OF MlSOGYNY?! Brian DEBATES Feminist! | Dating Talk #262

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I'm Brina.
	I'm 23.
	And I'm from San Diego, California.
	I'm a model DJ, creative director, stylist.
	All right.
	And any college, anything like that?
	The world is my college.
	Street Smarts, the School of Hard Knocks?
	I skipped a couple steps.
	You drop out of high school?
	No, I graduated.
	You graduated high school.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name's Emily.
	I'm 32 years old.
	I'm a funeral director and embalmer.
	And I received a bachelor's degree from Indiana University in Studio Art and Art History and associates from Vincennes University in funeral science.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And you're from.
	I'm from, well, I live in Bloomington, Indiana, but I'm originally from Jamestown, Indiana.
	Okay.
	Is this your first time in California?
	No, I was in LA twice in 2015 and in 2016.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	And the funeral directing, embalming, you what's the do you sell caskets?
	Yes, that's part of what we do.
	We're not like salespeople, and I don't get a commission for selling them.
	It's just.
	But you have a showroom for the caskets?
	We do.
	We only have, we have a smaller showroom, though, so we only have corner samples of caskets.
	Corner samples.
	And we also have a catalog you can look at.
	What's the most expensive casket that you sell?
	I think it's around $6,000.
	It's mahogany.
	Is that the like Ferrari of caskets?
	For us, it is.
	I know Batesville, which is actually a company out of Indiana that makes caskets.
	They have the Promethean, which is gold-plated and has an interior that's velvet and red.
	But we don't sell, I mean, if someone requested it.
	Also, according to the Federal Trade Commission funeral rule, you can buy a casket from anywhere and have it sent to the funeral home you're working with, and that funeral home has to accept.
	They have to use that.
	How much is the Promethean?
	I have no idea, but I hear it's quite a bit.
	Five figures?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	So you do like the embalming too?
	That's where you put makeup on the deceased partially.
	And you give us like the explain like I'm five breakdown of what embalming is.
	So embalming is just basically halting the decomposition process so someone can look their best and be viewable for their family.
	It allows you to have more time with your loved one and it allows them to kind of look their most optimal in terms of firmness and color.
	Whereas if you're unembalmed and you can view someone, sometimes some people look great unembalmed, but some people look a lot more pale or they just may not look as lively.
	And then depending on what kind of body conditions and illnesses or medications you have, you could decompose faster than other people.
	Have you seen Six Feet Under?
	I've seen parts.
	I'm not very fond of the show, but there's a couple episodes I felt like the family handled some situations very badly and they're lucky their customers didn't find out.
	Gotcha.
	How much does it cost to be embalmed?
	It varies from funeral home to funeral home, but any funeral home you ask is supposed to present a price list with all their that's another federal trade commission rule.
	But I think where I work charges at least, I think around $1,200.
	And you said there's like there's different things that you can ask for?
	Yes.
	So when you go to a funeral home, according to the Federal Trade Commission, you're supposed to be given a price list if you inquire about any sort of services.
	This is any funeral home anywhere.
	What percentage of people would you say opt for the embalming?
	Where I work at, and also in Indiana, so Indiana's a little more traditional.
	So a lot more people want full funerals, even if they can't necessarily afford it.
	So I'd say it's 60% cremation, probably 40% full traditional embalming, open casket, funeral, burial.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And then there's obviously, I'm assuming the price varies because people could have like an injury.
	You know?
	Not, oh, for embalming, the price varies.
	Well, like, I don't know if there was a like half the face is missing.
	We typically won't charge for extra restoration, and really, funeral homes aren't supposed to charge for if someone has a disease or something.
	Like, you couldn't charge extra for COVID.
	You couldn't charge extra if they have AIDS.
	You know, the only, like where I work at, if someone passes away and they want to view their unembalmed loved one before they're cremated, for example, if they're autopsied, there is a lot of work that goes into autopsy restoration.
	So we do charge extra for that.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Marcia.
	I'm 23.
	I make music.
	I creative direct.
	I style a little bit and then I model on the side.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	LA.
	And education, any college?
	I went to college for a little bit.
	I like tried it out for a semester, but it wasn't for me.
	It was too slow.
	And I, yeah, I like learning.
	I like, I think I'm very smart.
	Okay.
	But the way college works and like the like I wanted to take class, the certain classes I wanted to take, I had to take like a bunch of other classes before that to be able to take that.
	And it's just like a waste of time to me to just be taking like classes that I really don't want to.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Let me just have you tilt your mic down a little bit.
	What about you?
	For you?
	Oh, my name's Iris.
	I am 25.
	My occupation, I model.
	And as far as schooling, I have done it on and off.
	So I don't have a degree yet.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	Oh, sorry.
	Galveston, Texas.
	You're from Texas?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Did you move here to California or just visit?
	I was staying in Nevada for about half a year.
	Okay.
	And you said you were in school.
	What were you studying?
	I started with accounting, but then I was like, oh, it's a little too much.
	So I switched to online culinary, which is actually really cool because I didn't think that you could take cooking classes online.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Right?
	But yeah, and I'm still sort of in that.
	It's a take at your own pace type of deal.
	So pretty cool.
	I like it.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Sina.
	I'm 19 and I'm an influencer.
	I'm currently in school for engineering.
	And I'm from Canada.
	What part of Canada?
	Toronto.
	Toronto.
	Why do you say that like you're disappointed?
	Because I don't.
	Toronto.
	Okay.
	And you're an influencer?
	Can you be more specific?
	No.
	Why not?
	I'm an influencer.
	Close as I can.
	Close to me.
	Okay, so you do like OF?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you influence.
	Yeah.
	You do food, eating videos?
	Yes.
	Stuff like that?
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Stephanie.
	I am from LA, specifically the San Fernando Valley.
	I'm 31 years old.
	I went to school for accounting and I dropped out the semester I was applying for graduation.
	And now I've worked like all different kinds of jobs, but I like to just gain experience.
	And I do freelance accounting and work in property management.
	And you said you dropped out of college?
	Yes, the semester I was applying for graduation.
	And what were you studying?
	Accounting.
	Oh, accounting.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, everyone.
	My name is Kelsey.
	I just turned the big 30 this year.
	And I am from southern Indiana.
	I am a small business owner.
	My products have been featured on QVC in my town.
	They kind of jokingly have called me the female version of Willy Wonka because we do deal with chocolates, three generations of family making chocolates.
	And for schooling, I received my associates in business administration back in 2016.
	I wanted to continue my education and go to IU School of Kelly, which is one of the top 10 business schools in the nation.
	And I walked in there all excited and they're like, yeah, that's great, but if you want to be an entrepreneur, we're going to teach theory so you can actually save your money and we encourage you to go and start your own business and just put that in for equity, which I really appreciate at that time, you know, because there's always a bad vibe with like, oh, admissions just want your money.
	But I appreciate their thoughtfulness.
	So I went ahead and did that with the company.
	Now I'm back in school and I should be wrapping up.
	This is my final semester, get my bachelor's in business management from Western Governors University.
	And I did forget to mention my favorite job that I have.
	I'm a domestic engineer, aka a mom, to a beautiful six-year-old girl, and she's my pride and joy.
	Sweet.
	All right.
	You said there's two kids or one kid?
	One.
	One kid.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And how old is she?
	She's six.
	Six.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	My name.
	I'm Felicity, 19 from Santa Barbara in School for Business, and I'm Brian's bodyguard.
	It's true.
	And if you get feisty here, she'll.
	What's the thing about the chocolate?
	You said like your family makes chocolate.
	Yeah, so at this moment, we're working on a couple of national awards.
	You're not going to currently find us out on the market right now because everything has been taken apart.
	We're no longer manufacturing it ourselves.
	We're looking at co-packing because, fun fact, we actually got approached for a broker dealership in Canada.
	And we just knew that we couldn't produce the amount needed in our facility.
	So it was cheaper to go the route with co-packing.
	So that's still in the works.
	It takes a lot of time.
	These contracts do not happen overnight.
	But we are looking at it and hopefully excited to possibly get back on QVC here soon.
	All right, very cool.
	We're going to go around the table once more.
	What's your current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And longest relationship you've ever been in.
	Go ahead.
	So I just got out of my longest relationship like three days ago.
	So I've been single for three days.
	And we were together for two years.
	Okay, single for three days.
	Together for three years?
	No, two years.
	Two years.
	Was that your longest relationship?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And two years, single for three days.
	Who broke up with who?
	Pretty fresh.
	I broke up with him for like the fifth time.
	Fifth time.
	Yeah.
	So it was on again, off again?
	I guess you could say that, yeah.
	What is that?
	I'm sorry.
	Hold on.
	What is that smell?
	Is that from outside?
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's insane.
	Sorry, there's like a.
	No, it's like food.
	There's like the most pungent garlic smell.
	It's like it's no, it's fine.
	You can leave it open.
	You can leave it open.
	My apologies.
	Okay, so.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You broke up with the guy five times.
	Did he ever break up with you?
	No.
	Okay, so it was on again, off again.
	What would be the typical reason for one of the breakups or whatever?
	I guess, like, I needed him and I need him to be more of a man.
	More of a man.
	and like was he trans or no No, he just was not doing the thing.
	Like, why am I taking care of things that you should be taking care of type of situations?
	And it's just like, I'm no one's mom.
	I'm no one's life guider.
	Like, I'm here to add happiness to your life, not like make or break your happiness.
	And I don't know, I just felt like I was being sucked of all my life and energy, putting it into someone that was not giving me that in return at all.
	Okay.
	You said that he wasn't doing the things he should be.
	What are those things?
	Basically, just like basic romance.
	Like, there was no romance and it was just very lazy.
	And I was planning everything, doing all of these things, paying for certain things when it's like I'm again no one's mother and it should be equal.
	If not, he should be doing more because, like, hello?
	What?
	Yeah, what are the things he should have been doing?
	It's small things, honestly.
	But I should not be planning all the dinners.
	I should not be, like, it was just our two years and nothing was planned.
	And I was asking him, like, let's go out to dinner.
	Let's do something.
	I got him gifts, you know, and then he just like was like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay, oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
	I was staying with him for like a week because he was going out of town for a while.
	And like, we had multiple days to do something for our two years and nothing was done.
	And it's just kind of like, why?
	Why am I continuing to stay with someone that's making me sad when a thousand other people would do what they're not doing?
	Like, I'm wasting my time.
	And I need someone who loves as hard as I do at the end of the day.
	And that just wasn't happening.
	And you said you felt like you were being a mom.
	Like, so what were the things that you were doing that was mom-like?
	I was teaching him how to do, like, well, first of all, he's a Nepo baby.
	So that right there, you know, he didn't know how to do a lot of things on his own or take an initiative.
	And there's not a lot of like leadership skills going on.
	And I just felt like I was just kind of like the more of the adult in the relationship.
	And I need a man that's going to like take charge and take leadership and like be a man and not just depend on me for everything.
	You know, if anything, it should be equal.
	But I am no one's like mother.
	So for me to be like making sure you have this, making sure like, did you do this for yourself?
	Did you schedule this appointment?
	Can you cook?
	Can you clean up?
	Can you do your own laundry?
	Like these are things just as an adult that you should be able to do.
	And I should not be the one teaching you how to do it because I'm not your mom.
	You said he was a Nepo baby.
	How so?
	He's a Nepo baby.
	Like, he is like a trust fund baby?
	No, his dad is an actor.
	Famous actor?
	Yeah.
	Who?
	No, I can't say that.
	What movie?
	Can you tell us the movie?
	All right.
	Okay, so he's also in the film industry then.
	Okay.
	Was he working in the industry?
	He could have been.
	But like I said, there's no initiative.
	But I mean, to be a Nepo baby, you need to derive some certain benefits in said industry if he wasn't working in the industry.
	Yeah, I mean, he's about to work on a movie right now.
	No, he's a director.
	Your ex-boyfriend, director.
	How old is he?
	He's 23.
	So he's just getting started, but it's like, also, you have this nepotism and like all of these resources at your hands and nothing's getting done.
	And that just shows right there, like, leadership or like initiative.
	Like, I need more fire under white guy?
	No.
	Black guy?
	Mm-hmm.
	Stop trying to figure out.
	My chat's going to figure it out from there.
	All right, chat.
	So, Dad's a famous actor.
	He's 23.
	He's trying to be a director or whatever.
	He's black.
	I'm assuming the dad's black.
	I mean, I could.
	Maybe the dad's something.
	I don't know.
	Who knows?
	She didn't reveal this.
	Denzel Washington?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, all right.
	He is a Nepo baby, I guess.
	But, you know, look, you've only been broken up for three days.
	You guys have already broken up five times.
	I want to give it a good 77.7% chance that you guys are going to get back together.
	I don't think so because I need to go travel the world and I need to.
	Where are you going?
	Well, first of all, me and all my friends were going to basically be going on like a world tour because we have our friend group and we're about to launch like our friend group and like our whole brand.
	And so we're planning on going to London, which one of our friends lives in right now, Barcelona, Jamaica, Costa Rica.
	My family has like an island there, so we're going there.
	Just like a lot of places that I feel like I need to see.
	And I just also need to stop being sad.
	And I felt like me being in that relationship, I was sad all the time.
	And like my friends set the standard for me.
	And my friends treat me amazing and give me like all the love that I need.
	And they never make me sad.
	So I just, I'm just, you know, tired of being sad.
	And I'm going to go travel the world.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Maybe we'll dive more into that after we get through everybody's introduction.
	Was there any infidelity either on his part or yours?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I have been, I'm currently engaged since December.
	And then I've been in my relationship with my fiancé since 2017.
	I guess that's eight years.
	And that's been my longest relationship as well.
	And then prior to that, I think I had a relationship for about three or four years.
	So, but I really love my fiancé and I'm very excited.
	So how long have you guys been engaged?
	Since December, November.
	It was kind of informal.
	So.
	Did you propose?
	No, no.
	My fiancé did.
	I was actually very surprised.
	He was not.
	He's been married before.
	And he wasn't, when we got together, he wasn't keen on the idea of getting married.
	Just didn't go well the first time around.
	So I was just kind of, I'm pretty laid back.
	I feel like, you know, I'm kind of along for the ride of life.
	So I wasn't hot to push him to do that.
	And he just brought it up and I was like, whoa.
	And I was very excited.
	So and so part of my Christmas present last year is we picked out my ring together and is really nice.
	And we don't have a date set or anything.
	Truthfully, I'm much more excited about planning my funeral than my wedding.
	So I haven't given my wedding as much thought.
	Are you like planning to no, no, no?
	It's just, you know, we're all going to die at some point.
	So the sooner you think about it, keep it open, please.
	Get your pre-arrangements done, the better and the easier it is on your family.
	So I, you know, and also, I know some women love to be bridezillas and make the wedding about them, but I'm very much 50-50.
	So it's just as much my fiancé as it is me.
	And so it's not my wedding, but, you know, my funeral is all about me.
	So I'm excited about that.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	I just got out of a relationship like two months ago.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	It was me, but it was mutual.
	I was dating my best friend for like the past year.
	Yeah, it was my first girl-on-girl relationship.
	So I've dated men all my life, and then I dated a woman.
	How long was the relationship?
	One year.
	Is that your longest relationship?
	No.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	Okay.
	Were you on and off again with the girl?
	No.
	Okay.
	So it was straight for a year.
	Well, not straight, but you get what I mean.
	Do you have a grill?
	What are those?
	No, but I was going to wear my grill.
	It's so funny.
	Oh, you should have wear it.
	I know I have it.
	I should go put it on.
	I just want to.
	Can we deliver it to you at the table?
	Please.
	All right.
	Give her the grill.
	The grill is in my purse.
	It's the silver purse.
	Get the grill.
	Anyone else have a grill that you need to do?
	Yes.
	I was going to wear it.
	We actually should include, like, have a grill policy.
	You have to wear this grill.
	You do.
	Does it impact how you speak, though?
	No.
	It doesn't.
	Oh, yeah, get her in the grill.
	It does not.
	You have a grill too?
	I do, but it makes me have a lisp a little bit.
	A bit of a lisp.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Have you guys seen that Trump photo with the grill?
	No.
	Nick, go to Discord.
	I posted it.
	It's in the, I'm pretty sure I posted in the memes.
	Is it in the memes tab?
	Nick, pull that up.
	Memes.
	Memes.
	Resources, memes.
	It's got a little box.
	Look at that.
	Yeah.
	Just a little box.
	Wait, I think you can probably suggest it.
	Yeah, just do it now.
	Okay, right corner of the colour.
	Okay.
	Device.
	Just scroll through them.
	It's fine.
	Just do four.
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	Two.
	There you go.
	I have one.
	Switch it to the video tab.
	We might have to do it there.
	And put it in my pocket.
	No, we have no.
	No.
	Yeah.
	I literally like, I have to have it.
	I chose the grill.
	Oh, it's just on the bottom.
	Yeah.
	Oh, butter.
	I thought, hold on.
	Thank you.
	Hers is the top.
	It's a gold grill, too.
	It's a gold grill, yeah.
	You can't.
	Isn't it?
	What's the grill supposed to be?
	Or what's not supposed to be, but what's the most common gold?
	Grills are gold?
	Yes.
	What?
	Silver?
	Yeah.
	Silver gold.
	Or like a titanium or gold.
	No, so when you see grills that are like a hell of white, and those are diamond grills.
	Like, those are.
	Yes, diamonds.
	Yes.
	That's, yeah, that's like the next step.
	But this is like the first step.
	That's like diamond money.
	You know how much diamond costs?
	Brian had high expectations.
	Yeah, I thought it was a softer metal, right?
	Isn't that what?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	So, okay.
	You got the grill.
	You just broke up with your, I guess, well, now ex-girlfriend.
	Are you going back?
	You think you're going to go back to men now?
	Or what do you think?
	It's not going back.
	I like both.
	So whatever catches my eye.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And do you have a preference at all?
	Like you lean more so towards men?
	No, I definitely think it's based off like personality and qualities because I'm very much attracted to somebody's mind and mindset over anything else.
	Sweet.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single?
	Probably about.
	It's been a couple weeks now.
	I'll just say it's been a couple weeks.
	And my longest relationship was like six years.
	Okay.
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	Wait, what?
	Burger King?
	Wait, you don't have kids.
	Wait, I'm confused.
	Do you have kids?
	I don't know.
	Chair one?
	Why not work at Burger King?
	Doesn't make sense.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
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	Caligula.
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	Oh, my God.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Hide that for a moment.
	Sid donated $200.
	Yo, Sib, thank you.
	Take a guess at Chair 1Z.
	Sean Williams.
	I feel like that your reaction was kind of a giveaway.
	Uh-oh.
	No, actually.
	It's not Sean.
	Who the fuck is that going?
	I'm sorry.
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	Yeah, but why did you gasp?
	Because it's like in that area.
	But you're not helping her cause.
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	Okay.
	Single for four weeks.
	Longest relationship?
	Six years.
	All right.
	How long was the one that ended a week ago?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	Most recent one?
	You know what?
	We'll give it to him.
	He broke up with me.
	Did you cheat on him?
	Nope.
	Okay, the six-year one who broke up with who?
	That actually ended amicably.
	It was mutual.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for one year, and my longest was two years.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single for about two years now, and my longest relationship was three years.
	Sorry, can you repeat that?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was for three years, and I've been single for the last two years.
	All right.
	The one that ended two years ago, was that the three-year one?
	Yes.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why is that?
	I broke up with him because of a message and phone call I found in his phone.
	Nice.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	So he was cheating on you, essentially.
	There was no hardcore evidence, but it was enough for me to decide what I didn't want in my future.
	Period.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Met my ex-husband in 2017, married in 2018, and he decided to walk away in 21.
	And we divorced last October, sorry, last October.
	So it'll be a year next month.
	And been single.
	That was my one and only.
	No other dates, no nothing before or after him.
	Just my one man.
	And you guys were married for how long?
	Four years?
	So we married in 2018 until 2024.
	So what is that?
	Six years?
	But when did you separate?
	Separated in 21.
	21.
	Okay.
	So separated, but still legally married.
	Three years to get divorced?
	Were you, was there any sort of rekindling between the separation and the divorce, or was it 100% off from the point of separation?
	I think that at the beginning there was this kind of up and down where it's like, no, I want you, but I want my own life, my freedom, do what I want.
	And then there was, well, I'm still holding on because sometimes people, I've heard stories from others and people getting back together where it's like, sometimes you have to go experience, is the grass really greener on the other side or not?
	While you're out doing that, I'll pray for you.
	I'm holding down the fort and I'm raising our daughter.
	And things revealed themselves over time.
	I didn't have to, you know, hire a private detective or anything.
	It's just like you let things run its course.
	Everything will be revealed in time.
	And if not, that's okay too.
	You don't need a why behind everything.
	And so it came to the point where we had a phone call and he informed me where he stood in 2023.
	And then in 2024, the divorce was finalized.
	Okay.
	How long were you dating before you were married?
	So let's see here, 2017, beginning part like, see, we met in February, got engaged near the end of August, had a really cute beach profo.
	So like the moonlight, everything.
	It was so adorable.
	Heart in the sand with little rose petals and seashells.
	Married June of 2018.
	So we'd been together for a little over a year and a half before we got married.
	I see.
	Okay.
	And you initiated the divorce?
	No, he did.
	Well, let me pause here.
	The legal separation, that was from me.
	And then the divorce, he tried to go and file divorce in a different county.
	But because legal separation was in motion, it needs to be done in the same county that it's initiated.
	So when the lawyer called me and said, hey, did you know this happened?
	I said, no, I didn't.
	He said, well, what do you want to do?
	And I just paused for a second.
	Then I said, let's give him what he wants.
	That's his action.
	That's what he's saying.
	So we're going to go that route.
	So then it got turned into a dissolution of marriage.
	Okay, got it.
	And what briefly, if you can, what precipitated the breakup of the relationship?
	That's a good question.
	And some of the things I don't honestly have an answer to.
	I'm still in it.
	I don't know.
	But I have heard yourself and Andrew and other men say on podcasts, and just in my personal life, men are simple.
	When they say what it is that's on their mind, they say it and they mean it.
	So I have to go based on his wording and his words to me that I know regarding our situation was, everyone else is living my life for me.
	I want my freedom.
	And then as it progressed through the years, it ended up with him just saying we were never really married and I'm never ever coming back.
	So I think just in saying that without indulging too much, I mean, those were the words said, and I have to take him at his word for it.
	And based off of your notes, if I recall, he was the first guy you were ever with.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	That was my one-on-one.
	When did you guys meet?
	At what age?
	How old were you?
	Oh, goodness.
	Let's see.
	2017.
	So I was 22, 23?
	21, going to turn 22.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And so he cheated on you.
	Is that correct?
	There was infidelity involved.
	Okay.
	And oh, my question.
	He was the first guy you were ever with, correct?
	You ever dated?
	Nope.
	What's that?
	Nope.
	Or wait.
	No?
	No.
	Never dated prior.
	Like, I dated him, yes, obviously.
	I did not go out on a date with other men, and I haven't been on a date since our divorce.
	But before him, you didn't even date.
	No.
	No, as in, that's correct.
	I'm sorry.
	Or no, as in.
	I apologize.
	No.
	Okay.
	Yes, that's correct.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	Okay.
	Yes, I did not go on dates.
	Okay, so when you got married, you were a virgin.
	Yes.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And you've been divorced or separated for a little bit.
	Have you been on any dates since?
	Nope.
	No, no dates?
	No dates.
	No.
	Dating apps?
	Anything like that?
	No.
	No.
	No one's asked me out on a date, Brian.
	Can you believe it?
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	And so are you, you're Christian, right?
	Yes.
	What denomination?
	Non-denominational.
	Anybody else here Christian?
	Yes.
	You're Christian?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Are you Christian?
	You're wearing a cross, so.
	Oh, I need this one protection for my last relationship.
	I grew up in the church, yes.
	But baby, I was going through hell.
	I'm sorry to say it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And so just you and her.
	Okay, nobody else, Christian.
	What's your denomination?
	Catholic.
	Catholic, okay.
	All right.
	So as far as like future dating for you, are you waiting?
	And you're going to wait until marriage for the next guy, or what are you thinking?
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	Can you repeat that again?
	I didn't hear you.
	Are you going to be waiting until marriage for the next guy?
	Oh, absolutely.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	For carnal knowledge, you're going to wait.
	I'm going to wait to have Coitis.
	Coitis, thank you.
	Yes.
	If I get married again, you know, obviously there has to be someone who just says, you know what, I want to do life with you and I'm all in.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Felicity, what about you?
	Single for a few months now.
	Longest relationship was two years.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	Thank you, everybody, for sharing your relationship status.
	We're going to dive into Some of the pre-show notes here that we have starting with you.
	Okay.
	You had some criticisms for the show for me.
	I'm happy to dive into them.
	Let me just get those pulled up here and we'll kind of go one by one.
	So you say that I have some rather negative views on feminism, and that's a shame.
	You believe there's many aspects of feminism that help men as well.
	You say that I tend to book largely one type of woman that can make all women a certain way, even though that's one small subsection of the female population.
	You have been getting better, though.
	I'm not sure if this is to make women look bad or he simply enjoys talking to women who are OnlyFans models.
	Okay, a couple different things there.
	I'll just, the easiest one to dispel would be the OnlyFans thing.
	So, who here has OnlyFans?
	Anyone here a sex worker?
	Nope.
	Okay.
	Anybody a strip ever been a stripper?
	Nope.
	Oh, well, dancing.
	I've danced before.
	You stripped?
	For like a year and a half.
	When?
	It was years ago.
	Like when you're in early, because you're 31, right?
	So like early 20s?
	Like mid-20s.
	Okay, did you what's the term?
	Trick.
	Isn't that what that's what guys do?
	Yeah.
	Were you what?
	What's the fucking sugar baby?
	Other term for it.
	Whatever.
	Any escorting, anything like that?
	No.
	So I was very strict on like it was about the dancing.
	And I saw that it was an environment where the majority of the women were kind of like looking for a jackpot to kind of get money spent on them by like one person.
	Ultimately, I don't think like it was an environment where I personally was comfortable.
	I didn't see myself making friends.
	I didn't really see myself making the connections I wanted in my life.
	How long were you dancing for?
	A year.
	Okay, so it's just Cena here at the table.
	All right.
	So, I mean, this is a criticism we often get.
	Oh, Brian, you bring on like ex-type of woman.
	You bring on these like sex workers, OnlyFans girls.
	We've done the, we've looked at the statistics for, you know, thorough statistics of who we bring on.
	It's like 15% of all the guests we've ever had have done OF.
	And then, for example, on this panel, I mean, the currently only active OF girl is over there.
	So, yeah.
	Your newer episodes are getting a lot more different people.
	I like that.
	It's varied.
	It's varied.
	Yes, sure, there's been some episodes where it's like almost all the girls do OF, and then there's episodes where none of the people on the panel do OF.
	So it varies from show to show.
	But overall, the average of the guests we have on, it's like 15% if you were to average it out.
	So I kind of reject this criticism.
	Most of our guests don't do OnlyFans.
	And the thing is, it's an open invitation for pretty much anyone.
	Oftentimes, people will levy this criticism of the show and say, oh, Brian, you should bring on smart women, parentheses like me.
	I would run circles around you, blah, blah, blah.
	And instead of talking shit back or whatever, we almost always will politely offer them an invitation.
	Almost 99% of the time, people who make any criticisms of our guest selection are complete cowards.
	And despite a polite invitation, they almost always are all bark and no bite.
	So Ultimately, I would just say we've had plenty of smart, intelligent women on the show.
	Anybody is welcome to come on the show.
	But oftentimes, people talk a big game online, but when we actually extend that invitation, that challenge for them to step up, they're cowards.
	So I don't know if that thoroughly addresses your point or if you have anything you'd like to contend with there.
	No, I think, yeah, you kind of said your piece about the OnlyFans models, and I do agree.
	You're getting a lot more different people on here.
	I think the only other thing I forgot in my list of criticisms was sometimes I feel like, because this is a dating podcast and kind of talking about how stressful it is for people, especially men, to find someone to date, especially with dating apps.
	And I'm glad I never had to do Tinder because it's all looks based.
	But I feel like sometimes instead of getting to the root of the problem or having meaningful discussions, sometimes it turns a little ragebaity, which is good for viewership because that's actually how I discovered the show.
	YouTube algorithm loves this podcast.
	I get it recommended to me a lot.
	And then I also think my fiancé loves YouTube shorts and they get on his a lot.
	And then I saw, I'm like, what is this?
	So that's how I kind of discovered the show.
	But I, you know, people will always have different views.
	And you can't change someone's mind if they're very set in their ways.
	But I think we can have meaningful discussions and not have to make fun of people.
	Yeah, I get to the actual criticism, though.
	So what's the rage bait?
	Well, some of the videos and shorts I've seen, it's been making fun of, and then they usually have titles like Libtard Feminist Gets Destroyed.
	I don't think we use the term Libtard, but yeah, sure, we use destroy.
	Yeah.
	Charlie Kirk destroys, you know, Jane Z feminists baity tiles, or just there's clips where people.
	Let's just define our terms here.
	What's rage bait?
	It's kind of stooping to a look.
	It's not addressing your debate opponent as like a person that might be of equal measure and being able to see them as a person.
	You're just like, ah, look at that liberal over there.
	I humiliated him.
	Well, I think, hold on, there is a bit of a differentiation we can make here.
	So there's the way a clip is titled after the fact, but then when you're actually sitting there in person, I don't think there's any, at least to that degree, any sort of dehumanization.
	Obviously, you're trying to make compelling titles that are interesting, that'll make people want to watch them.
	But I don't think I wouldn't categorize them as clickbait insofar as they accurately describe what is actually occurring in the clip.
	So if you want to call that clickbait or rage bait or whatever, if it is the case from my perspective, and it seems like a lot of people agree with the clips, if it is the case that Andrew Wilson, Charlie Kirk, Brian Atlas, Michael Knowles, Candace Owens destroys raging feminist liberal woman, and that's what happens in the clip, I don't really think that that's necessarily rage bait or clickbait.
	But in any case, typically when the person's at the table, we're not being particularly typically not being particularly, what's the term for it?
	Aggro towards them, I guess.
	I mean, I usually just match energy, but again, what is rage baiting about it, I guess?
	Well, it's not just that, like differences of opinions, but like, for example, and one thing I think that's bothered me about this particular podcast is it going into physical appearances.
	And I understand some of your.
	Wait, wait, wait, but I have that in the notes.
	I'm happy to dive into that.
	But I want to get to that.
	I'll get to that one later, but I'm still trying to get the, what is the rage bait thing?
	Well, that kind of was my segue, but just the.
	We'll get to that.
	I'll bring it back to this, though.
	You said that Brian has some rather negative views on feminism, and that's a shame.
	You said that there's many aspects of feminism that help men as well.
	So what are my negative views on feminism?
	Well, you don't seem to like the idea.
	And it's not just you.
	It's Andrew.
	Well, he's not here.
	I know, but one of the things Andrew likes to say is women shouldn't vote.
	And, you know, I think that really goes back on the history of suffragettes here in the U.S., like Maywright Sewell, Caddy Stanton.
	And I just, you know, it's rage-a-baity.
	I mean, I don't think a whole group of people should lose their constitutional right to vote just because he doesn't like that women can vote.
	He thinks it's ruining the country.
	And that's just kind of rage baity because I think the majority of people you ask, like, I live in Indiana.
	It's pretty conservative.
	My dad's very conservative Catholic.
	If you ask my dad, hey, you think your daughter should lose her ability to vote because women make bad decisions?
	He'd be like, no.
	And I think a lot of conservatives are more.
	Well, hold on.
	Wait, hold on.
	That's not really a very compelling argument.
	If I ask my father X, like that wouldn't be a really strong basis or foundation for argumentation.
	Like, for example, like if I were to say, well, my dad says like we should just like, you know, nuke the entire planet.
	Like that's not a good foundation for argumentation.
	Let me quickly address this.
	So Andrew's position on, I have a different position than Andrew.
	Andrew's not here.
	So I don't think that I don't share that position.
	Like I'm mostly fine with women voting.
	I am fine with.
	Let me preface it.
	Let me frame this better.
	Please.
	I have criticisms of the female vote insofar as this.
	Women were able to secure, so women should maintain the vote.
	But what I'm saying is women should, should have the corresponding duties that men have.
	So feminists were able to secure the vote for women without the corresponding duties that men had to carry for them to get to the vote.
	So that'd be forced military conscription.
	Women for 100 plus years have had the right to vote without any duty to this country.
	Women have no duties to this country.
	Men have duties.
	That's an inequality.
	I'm not saying we should take away women's right to vote.
	I'm saying we need to equalize the duties that men and women have to this country.
	I'll let you guys come in in just a sec.
	So yes, I'm fine.
	I don't think we should repeal the 19th.
	What I would like to see, though, is an equality of duty between men and women.
	As far as Andrew's position is concerned, he takes a bit...
	Look, I'm not here to defend Andrew's position.
	He's not here.
	But my understanding of it is it's not simply like he thinks women suck and they shouldn't vote.
	He's just saying almost my position, well, women don't have any duties.
	So why should they have the right to send men to war to die when they would never be Forced to be in that position.
	I don't think we should send people to war.
	I don't like and being conscripted.
	Wow, there should never be murder, and nobody should lie, and nobody should cheat.
	These are empty platitudes, but realistically, if we're operating in reality, I don't think there should be, okay, there should just be world peace in perpetuity, and nobody should ever have hurt feelings ever.
	That's great.
	Realistically, though, there's other countries that are belligerent to the United States, and one day it's conceivable we're going to be involved.
	I mean, well, there are currently ongoing wars, not really with massive United States involvement, but it's conceivable, even if you're a peaceable nation, a peaceable people, that there's outside nations and countries that are aggressive and belligerent, and they want what you have, and they will forcefully take it.
	So, even if you're a peaceable people, you need a defense.
	You need to be able to defend yourself with military.
	So, there will always be military.
	There will always be war.
	Well, I don't mind there being a military.
	I'm just saying the draft.
	I've met veterans both in Vietnam, and then I had a neighbor who fought in World War II, and they were drafted.
	And a lot of them, like my neighbor, he really did not want to be part of the war.
	He had, he was in his 80s by the time I met him, so he had a didn't really want to talk about PTSD.
	That wasn't really something in his vocabulary, but he just gave him a lot of trauma.
	And that's how I've talked to a lot of people who I've met, like in Vietnam, who've had a lot of PTSD from that.
	You know, they went against their will, and I don't think they got a lot of compensation for that.
	You know, I talked to a lot of veterans that they have trouble with the VA for health care.
	Okay, so.
	And I just think that you shouldn't force people.
	There's a lot of people who do want to volunteer for the military, and that's great.
	But, you know, I don't like the draft for people, especially kids.
	Like my neighbor, who was in World War II, he was like just turned 18.
	He was a kid from Indiana who hadn't really traveled outside the state prior to that and got shipped off to Germany.
	And that was really hard on him.
	I thank him for his service, but he always told me the best day of his life was when he got out of the army.
	Right, but so the question at hand isn't whether selective service, the draft, forced military conscription is right or wrong.
	The question is whether or not being forced to go to war should be something that is gender neutral.
	So currently, as it stands, under law, only men are subject to forced military conscription.
	It's 2025.
	Women have had the vote for over 100 years.
	I think that they should be subject to forced military conscription.
	If from a, I mean, you would have to agree, given you're a feminist, that this would be equality between men and women.
	You're shaking your head.
	Why is that?
	Because we're not as strong as men are, and we birth kids and we birth.
	Are they?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You don't give birth.
	Like, that's something that we were given when we were born.
	That's what we do.
	We birth.
	So that's a big thing that we do.
	You were born because of a woman.
	Like, you wouldn't be here without a woman.
	Right.
	But we don't, but biologically, we don't share the same traits.
	And you know this because you've talked about it before in your population.
	Absolutely.
	So why would you send a woman if men are stronger and are and biologically stronger and not like so that makes sense.
	And then women have their part with giving birth and have that's a huge thing we do that men don't have to go through periods being a woman in general here who here show of hands who here has kids so just curious i mean any should every that's great you know so i take care of kids so she has a child perhaps we can exempt her uh but none of y'all have any children and we have multiple You're 32, you're 31, you don't have kids.
	Should we exempt them from military conscription?
	Again, she's 30 and we're 23.
	Okay, you guys are military age.
	Why?
	You guys don't have kids, so.
	Our country would lose if women ran.
	Well, I disagree.
	I disagree.
	Women can absolutely.
	Now, I don't think women should be involved in frontline combat.
	But women can be part of the war effort.
	For sure.
	And my understanding is, in order to have one person in direct combat, it takes 10 other soldiers or people in the military in like support roles to be able to field one combat soldier.
	So you can be in the kitchen, in the military, you can be doing administration work, you can be doing whatever the support roles women are capable of.
	I think it should be a choice for women.
	Why should it have to be a choice for the women?
	So if everyone just goes into the military, then we're literally who's going to have children and then they're going to be able to do that.
	Not everybody, but not all men would get drafted in wartime.
	Right, but you're saying like women don't have duties.
	Our duties is to literally raise civilization.
	You don't, but it's not a duty.
	It is, unless we want blackheads running around motherless.
	Well, hold on.
	So it's not a, no, no, no.
	It's not a duty in the same way that men have a duty.
	So for example, is there, and point me to actually any country in the world, where women can be forced by the government to have children?
	Can women in the United States be forced against their will to have children?
	Well, I don't know what state in what state system is where you get raped and you have to keep your kid.
	But women do have to, yeah, in some states they do.
	That's not a comparison.
	No, it is.
	No, because no, because then the entailment would have to be that the government forces women to be raped.
	That's how I read it.
	Because why would I have to keep a kid that I got raped from?
	That makes no sense.
	Hold on, that wouldn't be forcing a rape.
	It'd be forcing the birth of a kid from rape.
	But you're getting off of, you're completely off track here.
	We're not having a conversation about abortion.
	We're having a conversation about the government forcing women to have children.
	The entailment there wouldn't be, well, you must have.
	You have to support.
	So you're forced to have that child.
	That's not a incoherent comparison.
	I don't think so.
	Are you saying in the way where if there was a war, the duty for men would be for them to get drafted, and the duty for women would be that they have to birth a child?
	Well, what I'm saying is you guys are saying women have duties, and I'm saying they don't.
	So the government can force you to go to war if it wants to.
	The government can, and you guys are welcome to look up these videos.
	You can see them in Ukraine.
	You have military police abducting men in the streets, abducting them in the streets, throwing them in the van, and then they ship them off to get some military training, and then they go fight on the front.
	There is no sort of corresponding, even in Ukraine, which is an enactive war, there's not some corresponding duty on the women.
	Like, okay, we're, and it, the, there's not like, hmm, it's not even like roses and daisies, even.
	Like, there's, there's nothing that compels women by duty to have children.
	There's nothing.
	Even war-torn Ukraine.
	I guess with the situation you're offering, yes, I think women are as capable as men going military and being drafted.
	But personally, I don't think anyone should be drafted.
	Well, okay, but governments and nations are not going to relinquish their ability to call on its citizenry in the event of a military conflict.
	So we can say, you know, there shouldn't be a draft, but like, I'm interested in looking at what currently is.
	So what currently is the case is that in almost every single nation in the world, there's male-only military conscription, male-only military draft.
	I think like Israel, I think, has drafts women.
	Maybe there's like one other country.
	Otherwise, it's all men, all men.
	But speaking specifically about the USA, it's only men here.
	So you can say, well, I don't think that there should be a draft, but, you know, I feel like we should end the military draft as this sort of empty platitude, and it's basically just a waste of time and energy that would better be devoted to making it equal.
	I mean, wouldn't it, because the current thing in the U.S. right now is women aren't being forced to be in the military, so couldn't you just use that same argument to say, well, it's not a reality right now.
	So.
	Well, sure, it's plausible that you could relinquish men in this country from the obligation to be drafted.
	However, pretty much at any moment, even if for optics reasons, you know, the United States government could say, you know what, we're just doing away with the draft.
	But then the government can just, in some like desperate time of war, can just be like, you know what, we're going to pass a law and bring the draft back.
	Well, it'd be understandable if they did that to draft everyone, I suppose.
	But.
	Well, legally, though, as it stands, if there was a draft, women would not be subject to it.
	And historically, women have never been subject to military conscription.
	Honestly, I think that we've come to a point where like there's trans people and all of that.
	And I think that maybe everyone should just be like tested.
	And then if you are capable and strong enough, you can pass like a physical test.
	And then everyone can get drafted because there's like muscle mommies, like there's very strong women that would be down to do that.
	Like there's very masculine women.
	So like I think it should be open to everyone.
	Everyone should go through the same tests.
	And if you are not physically capable of protecting this country, then move on to the next.
	Okay, the trans stuff.
	But going back to your thing, we should end the draft.
	I just think this idea that we should end the draft is this sort of irrelevant red herring.
	And we should, it's like you're trying to shut down the discourse on gender equality.
	We should just equalize it.
	Because again, nations and governments, the United States government will not relinquish its right to have a military draft.
	It's conceivable in some sort of, you know, who knows what kind of scenario in the future could desperately need people to be drafted for the military.
	I mean, what's the alternative, right?
	So let's talk about the draft briefly.
	I don't want to linger too long on the draft.
	But let me ask you this.
	What if we knew?
	This is a hypothetical scenario.
	Let's say China.
	We know with a foregone conclusion.
	We're predicting in, hmm, I don't know, a couple years, or no, in a year.
	China's going to invade us.
	No offense.
	By the way, would you, if China invaded Canada, would you side with China or Canada?
	Wouldn't I get deported?
	Well, just privately.
	You wouldn't have to just, would you?
	Wow.
	You'd you'd yikes, okay.
	That's kind of crazy.
	Are you from China?
	Wait, do you ever want to become an American citizen?
	I've thought about it, maybe.
	Because of the better taxes.
	Question: If you became an American citizen and China invaded the U.S., would you side with the U.S. or China?
	China.
	Wait, but are you from China?
	No, I'm from Canada.
	Is Wayne Brady gonna have the choco, bitch?
	So, anyways, wait, okay, the draft, right?
	Shit.
	Okay.
	Yeah, what was I saying about the draft?
	Oh, China invades.
	China invades.
	We have one year to prepare.
	And let's say this is a hypothetical China.
	If China wins the war against us and they invade us, we know because of our intelligence gathering that their plan is because they view the United States populace as such a threat to the world's order that they want to establish, that they're going to kill all the men and they're going to rape all the women.
	Do you think, and, and here's what else we know.
	In this hypothetical scenario, we know that comparing our current military's power, hypothetical, right now our military is stronger than China.
	But in this hypothetical, we know that our military isn't strong enough to beat China unless we draft the men.
	But some men don't want to go.
	Do you think under this circumstance where we know that China's going to kill most of the country, they're going to rape all the women, under that circumstance, is it justified to force men who otherwise wouldn't want to fight to fight?
	I think if it got critical enough, eventually a draft may come in, but I don't think they'll do it initially.
	Additionally.
	No, no, no, but in the hypothetical, it's granted that we have the intelligence that we know that, okay, they're stronger than us.
	We need to draft the men because we just our assessment of our military capabilities in this hypothetical scenario, they're stronger than us.
	But if we draft these other men, we have a chance.
	But if we don't, we're just going to get wiped out.
	Should we draft the men?
	Possibly, though.
	Truthfully, looking at military information and just reading about kind of technology they're developing the military, I don't know about other countries, but at least the U.S. seems to be really going towards drones rather than sending people on the front line.
	It's a total red herring.
	It's a total red herring.
	I just realistically, as the future goes on, I don't know how much they'll leave.
	Okay, well, maybe China's like developing some like insane AI that's going to like completely wreck us too.
	So in the hypothetical scenario, though, it's already granted that China is stronger than us.
	So should we draft the men to prevent all the women in the country from getting raped?
	Wouldn't this hypothetical situation be a red herring?
	How is that?
	How would it be?
	It's testing your logic of like your disagreement with a draft wholesale.
	Because this is a very odd hypothetical situation that hasn't occurred any time.
	That's why it's called a hypothetical.
	Well, wouldn't using drones instead of people in the future be a hypothetical?
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	You don't think that, like, let's say this war takes place in the next five years, you think drones are going to be the exclusive, you know, fighter in military conflicts?
	Well, for a lot of our enemy nations, I'm sure, because they can't get across the ocean as well as a drone.
	In the hypothetical situation, it's going to be granted that the Chinese Navy has the resources to put boots on the ground in the United States.
	I mean, with nuclear weapons, I mean, you could just nuke a place and not take care of most of it.
	Yeah, then it's just, okay, now we're having another red herring.
	Now we're having a conversation about mutually assured destruction.
	I also just, this is kind of what I mean about rage bait.
	How is this rage bait?
	Because this has nothing to do with dating.
	I don't know.
	That's why I'm curious.
	It was your criticism.
	Well, it was about feminism.
	Right.
	Feminism gets just brought up a lot on this, but my point is it doesn't have as much to do with.
	No, you brought up the whole the voting thing.
	Yes, that was an example from what you asked me initially.
	Right.
	But my point is, is you bring up like women versus men, feminism, patriarchy, but does that have to do with your initial thing about dating?
	That's what this whole podcast is about, is dating.
	Sure.
	I think absolutely it's all tied in.
	I think it's all tied in.
	Feminism is massively tied into dating.
	It's had massive negative consequences on the dating landscape.
	I think if you're somebody who's more inclined to more traditional gender roles, then yeah, massive, massive impact on the dating landscape.
	And it's all part of it.
	All part of it.
	Even the military draft, even the draft, even the inequality that exists there, it's all baked in.
	I think everyone should just go through the same physical tests.
	And the weak ones, no.
	The strong ones, yes.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, I suppose.
	Or if you want to do it, like have a test for like people who you know will potentially face actual combat and then you have all the pencil pushers and the support roles and the admin that maybe you could like you know make the majority of those women.
	Exactly.
	Sure.
	Problem solved.
	But again, this whole thing, this whole thing, though, is we're not going to get rid of the draft.
	So if the status quo is the draft won't be abandoned, won't be gotten rid of, then surely for the sake of equality, like we have to operate under what is the current system, right?
	So I think equality would then dictate that women should be subject to military conscription.
	Okay.
	And so under that basis, what I see is an inequality that exists which privileges and benefits women and is to the disadvantage of men.
	Men are subject to forced military conscription.
	And even in the United States, even if it's not wartime, if you fail to register for the selective service as a man, there's a $250,000 fine.
	It's technically a felony.
	You're barred from certain federal jobs.
	You can't get certain federal student loans.
	I think there's, I'm trying to think if there's one or two other negative ramifications.
	No student, federal student loans, no barred from certain federal jobs, federal positions.
	There might be one or two other things, but I pretty much went over the bulk of it.
	But women should be subject to military conscription to, and that would be related to equalizing women's voting rights, which still aren't equal.
	To the benefit of women.
	So do you feel like this is also a class issue?
	Because men can get out of conscription if they have enough money.
	In fact, some of our people in the highest levels of office got out of Vietnam by doing that.
	Well, I mean, I'm not really, that's not really a field that I'm expert in.
	Because I think just, I know feminism gets blamed for a lot of the ills men experience in our society.
	Now, I think you mentioned on your podcast on Wednesday a lot of men are homeless and they have very high suicide rates, and it's true.
	Let's stick to the draft thing here really quick.
	I suppose it's the case, like, yeah, some people have political connections and they can, but I mean, honestly, you, my understanding of the draft, you can't get out of it just because you're wealthy.
	Although it's plausible, sure, I guess it's plausible.
	Even then, though, it's still only men that would be impacted.
	So.
	CCR wrote a whole song about it.
	But anyways, I guess to finish this off, Andrew's argumentation here is that women have a certain privilege in society.
	So he's like, okay.
	Well, he has other positions too.
	It's not my position.
	If you want to have a discussion with him on his specific positions, you can.
	In any case, I don't believe in repealing the 19th, but I would like to see an equalization between men and women when it comes to military conscription.
	Well, that's fair.
	Well, yeah, but.
	So if that hyper, that question you asked, sir, about China invading, how do you feel about the draft?
	How do you think it should go?
	You think it should be women and men if it's going to be.
	Well, that question, the hypothetical about China.
	Yeah, I want to know your opinion on that.
	Well, it's not so much should we draft, should we draft?
	Well, hold on.
	It's not should we draft women and men.
	It's should we draft men as it currently stands.
	Yeah.
	What do you think?
	Yes, I think so.
	Cool.
	I don't like war, but again, it's a totally empty platitude.
	There are conceivable situations in which it's necessary.
	And whether I think it's necessary or not, it's just the reality.
	No nation is going to give up its power to draft its citizenry.
	So it's just like, I don't know.
	It's just like almost moot.
	Is that the right word?
	It'd be a moot point.
	It's just not even worth like, okay, you know, it'd be really nice if humans didn't have to breathe oxygen.
	Okay, sure, I guess.
	Like, maybe there's a different thing that's better, but as it currently stands, the technology isn't there to, you know, so it's like, okay.
	Or it'd be really nice if humans didn't have to eat food.
	Okay, maybe like hundreds of years in the future, we'll have some technology or something where, I don't know, we can get fucking sunlight or something.
	I don't know.
	But as it currently stands, okay, so cool.
	We need a system in place to feed humanity.
	Well, there's nothing wrong with looking towards a brighter future.
	And I mean, I feel like that's what you're doing with your podcast.
	You're trying to make things better for some of the men who feel a bit disenfranchised.
	Sure, I guess.
	You don't like how it stands now.
	Yeah, but so I guess going back to the original thing, though, which was my negative views on feminism.
	Because I asked you, what are the negative views on feminism that I have?
	And you cited to the voting thing.
	Maybe I shouldn't have bit on that just because that's Andrew's position about the voting.
	I'm fine with women voting.
	So what are my negative views on feminism?
	You don't seem to like that women do have the option to do sex work.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	Wait, hold on.
	Isn't that a feminist position?
	What?
	There's like anti-sex work feminists.
	It's nuanced.
	I'm not anti-sex work myself.
	There are some, and I can see where they're coming from.
	But once again, I think another thing, I mean, about sometimes this is a bit rage baity, things can get very black and white on here.
	And truthfully, I think there's a lot of nuances in life that can't be defined this or that.
	Sure.
	What's an example?
	For something black or white, that I say.
	Trying to remember.
	I watched one of your episodes and you even said I'm black and white on this, but I can't remember the specific one.
	Well, what you don't remember?
	Well, one thing that does come up a lot on here, and I'm not sure why, because once again, this is about dating, is abortion comes up a lot.
	And I know people are very black and white with that issue, but sometimes there are nuances.
	And I don't think it's something that you can just have a yes or no.
	This is completely done.
	This is always right or wrong.
	So.
	Okay.
	I don't really bring up abortion too much.
	Usually that's other people who bring it up, although sometimes I'll engage in that conversation.
	I find the abortion debate to be kind of dull, to be honest.
	Yeah, okay.
	So opposition to sex work?
	I don't have any other than I think.
	But what's my negative views on feminism?
	Well, what are your positive views on feminism?
	Wait, it's your position.
	I don't have positive views on feminism.
	Well, when you make those clickbait videos, or someone does, and these usually about feminists being destroyed, I usually don't see anything about the opposite.
	Wait, but why?
	Why?
	If I'm anti-feminist, why would I have positive things to say about feminism?
	Like, it's plausible that...
	I feel like the point you're getting at is that because I can't necessarily think of something off the top of my head, you're not anti-feminist, so that would mean you are a feminist.
	Wait, what?
	Hold on.
	Wait, because, wait, what?
	Can you repeat that one more time?
	It feels like you're getting at because you're trying to make me think of specific things from specific episodes.
	If I can't think of it, if I can't think of it and you're saying, well, if you can't think of anything, then I'm not anti-feminist.
	That would mean you are a feminist.
	Because that's the opposite.
	Maybe I, I don't know if I misspoke, but I am an anti-feminist.
	You wrote in your notes that I have negative views on feminism.
	So I'm just asking what are those negative views?
	I'm not challenging, like I think you're right.
	I do have negative views on feminism.
	I'm not disputing your claim.
	I'm asking for what those claims are.
	It's just how you tend to present feminists on this show.
	You just always seem to kind of make them look like they're crazy.
	But also, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	I don't make anybody anything.
	So, for example, people say, Brian, you make people look stupid on the show.
	I don't make anybody do anything.
	If they choose to open their mouth and say something that's stupid, there's a microphone there.
	The onus is entirely on them.
	So this criticism that I make people look stupid, whether it's related to feminism, whether it's related to dating, I don't know how I make them look stupid.
	If somebody says something stupid, they've made themselves look stupid.
	Oh, I think part of it, especially with the short format videos, is you're taking a clip out of a seven or eight hour video.
	And sometimes some of those clips don't make a lot of sense out of context unless you sit and watch the whole thing.
	Well, so we, I mean.
	And sometimes it can make people look bad, but if you watch the whole thing, it makes more sense.
	Well, so one thing I'd point out is we don't do this thing where we don't splice.
	So when I say splice, like for example, say yes right now.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Are you a have you ever punched a baby in the face?
	No.
	Okay, so splicing would be I would use that yes that you gave me before and interlace it with me asking you if you punch babies and to make it seem like you said yes, you punch babies.
	We don't do that.
	I will say the shorts are short.
	You know, they're anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds.
	But we don't, usually it includes the bulk of what's being said.
	So sure, in a short, a little short tidbit, perhaps it excludes some of the prior conversation, but we're pretty good faith, even though the clips are captivating and they're getting fiery moments, we're typically not excluding critical context that would mislead the person, like or excuse me, mislead the viewer about what the person's actually trying to say.
	So while the clips are short, I don't think it's leaving out critical context or misleading the person about what they really mean.
	Can I add something?
	Sure.
	So I agree with you.
	I think that's what you do, but I also think you're never going to use clips where someone is eating you up.
	And because I've watched the whole, I've watched your whole hour and a half and people do eat you up and you never ever have those clips.
	People eat me up.
	Clips, right?
	On occasion.
	Yeah, I've seen it.
	So, but I've never seen it in clips.
	All I see in clips is you targeting women.
	So for sure, what she's saying has a little bit of truth because you definitely want to portray a certain like culture for women and for and your views.
	I mean, this is your podcast.
	Well, that would just be edit.
	That wouldn't be bolstering her claim, though.
	That even if we do do that.
	You do.
	Even if we do do that, that would be editorial discretion as to what clips we use.
	Oftentimes, though, while I would, look, I've lost arguments on the show.
	That's why.
	But I would never see it in small clips.
	Okay, I don't.
	Well, I actually don't see anything wrong with that.
	Because one, the full live stream is available.
	It is.
	Other people make clips.
	So I don't actually see any, like, for example, when you take a photo that you're thinking about posting on Instagram, you take like, what, 50?
	You'll blast it, right?
	You'll take 50.
	How many do you post?
	Why don't you post all the shitty 50?
	Why don't you?
	I'm so known to post.
	Oh, okay.
	You go to my camera at every angle, baby.
	Oh, what about the one where your eyes are?
	I post those because I look sexy.
	My eyes are twitching.
	Every moment.
	How about if your eyes are closed?
	You'll post.
	I literally have pictures on my Instagram eyes closed.
	Everybody exercises editorial discretion.
	If you close your eyes on a photo, you're not going to post that one.
	But maybe other girls will.
	Yeah, of course.
	I'm going to post the clips.
	I mean, by the way, 99% of all potential clips that could be reaped from any show, like overwhelmingly, like maybe a girl will get one on me, but 99% of the time, they're getting wrecked, okay?
	They're getting fucking wrecked.
	Okay, good talk.
	But I don't see how that has anything to do with anything.
	It's assy.
	Negative views.
	What are my negative views on feminism?
	I need a moment to think.
	Can you share yours?
	I haven't watched your podcast enough to know too much about you.
	I just started thinking.
	You know, it's.
	So I really want to, please enlighten me.
	Why are you anti-feminist?
	Yeah, sure.
	So, I mean, I'll give you, I will give you two definitions of feminism.
	My charitable definition.
	Feminism is a women's advocacy movement.
	Nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
	The reason, this is my most charitable, generous definition.
	But it will never be an equality movement.
	Feminism is not about equality despite representations to the contrary.
	Feminism doesn't care about equality, and I'll explain why.
	It cares about equality if said equality can benefit women.
	But if a form of equality could conceivably come to the detriment of women, feminists not only won't pursue it, but will actively fight against pursuing said equality.
	Again, if that equality were to benefit or were to come to the detriment of women in some conceivable way.
	So by this very nature, if you don't believe in just equality across the board, you can't actually truly be egalitarian.
	You can't truly believe in equality.
	Ergo, feminists don't believe in equality.
	And by the way, there's not, again, there's nothing wrong with women's advocacy.
	That's fine.
	But don't parade feminism as an equality movement when it's not.
	My actual definition, that's my charitable definition, though.
	My actual definition of feminism is it's women's advocacy, dot, dot, dot, plus, plus it's its whole foundation and basis is centered around anti-male rhetoric and man-hating and bigotry towards men and sexism towards men and misandering.
	Why does that matter to you?
	What do you mean?
	Hold on.
	Was someone very cruel to you at this point?
	It sounds like somebody hurt you or you're like, how would you?
	Because why do you care?
	Because you care so much.
	The way you're talking about it is like exciting a fire in you that I'm passionate about.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	Do you care about racism?
	I do.
	Why do you care so much?
	Who hurt you?
	Because I have plenty of friends who are black that go through racism every day.
	So of course I'm going to kill you.
	Okay, cool.
	So I think sexism is bad.
	Why can't you acknowledge that sexism towards men is bad?
	Because it's because I don't agree.
	What do you mean you don't agree?
	Don't agree with what precisely?
	Can you restate your sentence?
	Well, hold on.
	Your entire position was, well, Brian, why do you care about negative outcomes for men and sexism directed towards men and like anti-male rhetoric?
	Yeah, but then when you, what a crazy position to actually even take to say that anti-male rhetoric, who should actually care about that?
	That's precisely the thing I'm fighting against.
	But here's the thing: that women are shitting on men because of the things that men do.
	How many women do you hear that are raping people, killing people?
	Like literally every time.
	Women do this all the time and they do it in a really bad way.
	You see it in the school system.
	You see these women raping their students.
	They're absolutely not.
	The percentages are that percentage compared to the men raping women.
	Oh, so okay.
	So the differentials, we're talking about percentages now.
	Yes.
	Yes, it happens all the time.
	Every single time, very high women do this all the time.
	Every single time I go back, a man is harassing me every single time I go outside.
	Cool.
	All right.
	No, not cool.
	It's literally like, what's wrong with you when women aren't doing that?
	I can't just walk outside and feel okay without you.
	But check this out.
	Check this out.
	That's bad.
	Check this out.
	That's bad.
	Men shouldn't do it.
	How about you guys make a why don't you guys rebuke the anti-male rhetoric that your side invokes?
	What?
	I do think women can be sexist.
	Is it bad?
	It is.
	Wait, you think women should be sexist?
	I think that if the majority of a group of people, which happens to be a whole gender, that yeah, maybe you guys should wake up and stop being weirdos.
	Wait, hold on.
	Okay, so as a whole, as a collective, because it's the majority of men.
	The majority of women are what?
	Weirdos, creeps.
	Weirdos.
	Okay.
	What specifically is the majority of men doing?
	First of all.
	That warrants women's sexism.
	We're scared to walk outside because we feel like we're going to get raped.
	Like, literally.
	Okay, I'm scared.
	Well, hold on.
	Women don't scare you.
	Why would a woman scare you?
	What are we doing that's so scary to men?
	Well, hold on.
	I didn't even say that, but I'm saying men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	No.
	Yes, they are.
	Yeah, you guys are doing that to each other.
	No woman is coming.
	Exactly.
	Like, what does it matter the gender of the perpetrator?
	It's men.
	Like, if you have an issue with violence, your own gender is causing that on you.
	So it doesn't matter then?
	It does.
	That's the whole point.
	It's like men.
	Men are even causing harm to other men.
	Right, but what you're doing now is victim blaming.
	Like now they're literally just causing trouble on everybody.
	Right, but you're victim blaming.
	So you're saying, well, when men are victimized, it doesn't matter as much because the perpetrator of the crime is also male.
	So what does me share really?
	What does me sharing a gender with the perpetrator of the crime, how does that make me less of a victim?
	I'm just saying that like you guys are victims, you said, of violence, but you guys are violent towards each other.
	That has nothing to do with women.
	Right, but I'm a little bit confused about that.
	You guys cause the most crime.
	Men cause the most crime.
	They cause the most rape.
	They just do.
	It's statistically proven.
	Right, so I mean, I would agree that yes, the crime statistics do bear out that the majority of these people perpetrating violent crimes are men.
	There's no dispute there, although I have some disputes in how some of this data is gathered.
	I'll grant it, but I would also point out that oftentimes in terms of the severity of punishment, women get off quite easily.
	Men are less likely to report being abused physically by women.
	So the crime statistics are a bit skewed, but even then, I'll grant that yes, men are overrepresented in this crime.
	But I would point to what percentage?
	Because it's a very, if we're looking at criminality, it's a really small percentage.
	And if what you're saying is true, that it's okay to espouse bigotry towards men because a small apex of them commit crimes.
	Well, congratulations.
	You've just opened up the door to every racist argument against black people that there has ever been.
	Except the difference between me and you is, is I would say it's wrong to be racist towards black people despite their disproportionate representation in criminality.
	I would like for you to say the same about men.
	Otherwise, you must say that racism towards blacks is justified because of their increased proportionality in criminality.
	First of all, black people were put through hell by men.
	Okay, when they were put through hell by men.
	Women were not in charge of the country back then.
	Men were.
	Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's crazy.
	Women were slave owners.
	We didn't divide their slaves by their husbands.
	There haven't been slavery end.
	Men ran the country.
	What does slavery have to do with somebody being a fucking murderer today?
	Because you're saying you're trying to say that racism has anything to do with just men did this to themselves, okay?
	Racism was put onto people.
	Like, they're a victim of racism.
	Men are not a victim of being caught a bad person.
	The majority of men are like weirdos, and they did it to themselves.
	The reason why people don't fuck with men is because of themselves.
	They did it to themselves.
	People did not do racism to themselves.
	Like, again.
	What are you not understanding?
	It's just completely incoherent.
	And again, it's not.
	It's really not.
	It is because you're saying, okay, more men than women commit these crimes.
	Okay, cool.
	That opens up the conversation that can be had of more black people commit these crimes than white people, so racism is okay.
	That's also not true.
	It is true.
	Is racism okay then?
	No.
	Why not?
	What do you mean, why not?
	If it because somebody's color is also towards like women and men, like it's not.
	Yeah, and also the color of your skin.
	You can't, it's not your fault that that's your color of your skin.
	And just because you're a man, it doesn't mean it's because you're a man that you're committing crimes.
	Of course, but like people are going to judge you because, yeah, the majority of men are weirdos.
	The majority of men are not weirdos in person.
	They are because every time me and my friends step outside, there's not one time where a man, we come in contact with him and he's not being weird to you.
	Okay, so just to be clear, so have you ever been in like a crowded shopping mall?
	Yes.
	So the majority of men in that shopping mall, in a shopping mall, say things to you.
	The majority.
	Yes.
	What part of LA do you live in?
	East LA.
	Near downtown.
	Just curious, what's the demographic breakdown in East LA?
	It's honestly a mix of everybody.
	All of LA is a pothole mix.
	So I mean, I find this completely dubious, this idea that in, like, you're at a point.
	It just doesn't happen to you, so you wouldn't know.
	Exactly.
	It just doesn't happen to you.
	It just really happens to certain people.
	Tell you what.
	I want to send one of y'all down with a camera.
	There's a university right here.
	Please, let's see.
	There's a school right here.
	We can have you guys go on campus, and I want to see 50% or more of the men saying something to you.
	I guarantee you, you could walk for 10 minutes.
	Nobody's saying shit to you.
	Nobody gives a fuck about you guys.
	Trust me.
	Trust me, they say anything.
	I've never been to this area of this area.
	But what's the statistics for this area?
	Because I just saw why.
	I don't know.
	Anybody, Nick.
	You're a student.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Look, girls are not being fucking street harassed.
	But they are.
	A majority.
	Hold on.
	Yes, it occurs, but it's not over 50% of men.
	okay that would literally be bro here yeah can i I want the other women.
	There's other women here at the table.
	You're telling me when you walk down the street and you're at the mall, more than 50% of the men say something to you and are a creep.
	Really?
	No, but when I am harassed, it is almost always by a man.
	Okay, that's totally fine.
	But does no other woman, no woman here can stand up to the that the majority of men come up to you and say something creepy?
	I don't think the majority of men are creeps or weirdos, but I will say when I have gotten a rude comment, which luckily hasn't been often, it has been from a man.
	And usually it's out of nowhere.
	Very surprising and kind of disheartening.
	Like one time I went to, I don't know if not out of state people know about Kroger, it's Indian grocery store, but I had a guy make a really rude, surprising comment to me in a parking lot, and it was really hurtful.
	Okay.
	There's no dis fine.
	Whenever you get, yeah, okay, you get cat called, it's by a man.
	That's wrong.
	We get it.
	Why are you guys justifying then, even if I grant to you all this is true?
	Actually, I wouldn't even grant this like majority of men are fucking like harassing you.
	That's ridiculous.
	I wouldn't say majority.
	I would just say it happens every day.
	Like every time I go out.
	That wouldn't be a majority, though.
	I'm not going to say majority.
	I'm just going to say it would just happen.
	I would say it's majority.
	Yeah, I don't think most men because I think some men are too scared to even like to.
	You know, I almost want to wager on this, but even if it, look, whatever.
	Every single time you go out, some guy says something.
	I don't know.
	Also, we have to define what creepy is.
	Some guy shoots his shot at you somewhat politely.
	You're going to categorize him as creepy.
	Who knows?
	Even granting every single time you go out, something happens, that wouldn't then give you justification to just across the board hate all men.
	I don't hate all men.
	I never hate all that statement.
	Okay, then fine.
	It wouldn't give you justification to espouse anti-male rhetoric.
	I don't do anything.
	If you go on the website Megan's Law, so on every area, it'll like tell you who's a registered pedophile.
	The majority of the people listed on that website are male.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	And there'll be like a bunch of them around you.
	I think that like says something.
	No, it doesn't say that.
	It doesn't say that the majority of men are weirdos.
	It says the majority of weirdos are men.
	Literally, that's what it says.
	Okay, but this is, we're looking at a very small proportion.
	We're looking at what is called the apex.
	A small proportion you can't attribute to the entire group the conduct and behavior stop.
	You can't attribute to the entire group the conduct and behavior of a small, small proportion of the group.
	That's bigotry.
	Okay, so then I would say you can't.
	Okay, how, sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I would say you can't say the same thing about feminism and have your, because I have, your viewpoint on feminism and mine are completely different.
	Like, I don't think, like, I'm a feminist and I don't think that I, because of that, I think I'm better than men or I think I'm equal and that's the point of feminism to like bring me to an equal because at the end of the day, I'm like in the in today's, even today, 2025, like I am not equal to a man.
	Like I can't get a job at this, a man will beat me at a job first, even if my, my resume is better, even if I earn better.
	Yes, it is.
	There's affirmative action, there's affirmative action, especially in the entertainment industry.
	No, especially in entertainment industry.
	Music is men-dominated.
	No, it's not.
	Yes, it is.
	Barely.
	How is it male-dominated when the highest paid performing artists currently are almost all women?
	Male dominated, meaning there's mostly men in the industry.
	Who's out earning Taylor Swift?
	Tell me who's Taylor Swift.
	We're not talking about the money.
	We're talking about how many are in the industry.
	If we're talking about numbers, okay, but if we're talking about number statistics, it's like 70, 30.
	Perhaps that could be the case.
	It is the case.
	I'm a musician, so I would know.
	Wait, then you would expect if there's more men in the music industry that they would be the highest earners, but they're clearly not.
	Because they're not, because they're not, like, women are too.
	Okay, anyways, there's a massive amount.
	They're talented.
	There's massive amounts of affirmative action in the entertainment industry, in all industries, plenty of affirmative action.
	Nothing's preventing a woman from getting a job.
	Also, to your point about, well, men make up the majority of this.
	There's plenty of crimes that I could point to that women are the majority of.
	I wouldn't then say because of this, because women are overrepresented in this particular crime statistics, that women generally across the board are bad or evil.
	I would say those specific people that there's a criminal element amongst this percentage of women, these people are bad.
	It's the criminals that are bad, not women as a whole.
	And in rebuttal, to your point, not men as a whole.
	I agree, not men as a whole.
	I will, if you recall that criticism I sent you about how men can benefit from feminism, I'll give you an example.
	You mentioned a lot of young male students who do get sexually harassed or raped by their teachers that are female, and that's a terrible thing.
	And sometimes I see some guys kind of have this idea, like older men, especially if you look at news articles of a female teacher who's raped a child that was a male student.
	Instead of being like, that's rape, that's wrong, that's bad, they're like, oh, he scored with the hot literature.
	That's so cool.
	There's even a movie about it with Adam Sandler in it.
	And that's really messed up.
	And I feel like with feminism, you recognize that's rape and you hold those women accountable.
	For sure, exactly.
	But, you know, I think that would, you know, that's rape.
	And I don't understand why there's a culture of men who say, oh, no, you just scored with the hot older woman.
	Right.
	But so this idea, like even some of the statistics that were referenced today, well, men are disproportionately this.
	The reality is, to your point, they don't even get categorized as rapists.
	It's like another, it's another sort of sex crime.
	It's an essay.
	But when we say, oh, well, 97% of men are rape or 97% of rapists are men.
	Well, if the crime itself, you can't be women, depending on the jurisdiction, can't be charged with crime of rape because in some of these jurisdictions, they have to, there has to be like a penetrative component to be charged with rape.
	And I agree.
	I think that is wrong.
	And that's what I mean about not everything's black and white.
	There's a lot of nuance.
	Right, but again, I get that you guys want to like shit on men and point out how specific men are so terrible, blah, blah, blah.
	But my contention has always been, I don't really, I'm not inclined to dispute these statistics so much as you guys can keep bringing up, okay, well, this portion of men commit these crimes.
	Why would that be justification for anti-male rhetoric?
	I think it's more of just women trying to bring attention to all men to like do better.
	Well, that's a crazy.
	Okay.
	Let's replace men with black people.
	It's not rape.
	Your statement becomes.
	Yeah, but it's not rape.
	Your statement would become.
	They don't do anything to deserve what they got.
	Men do.
	Men do.
	Men deserve what?
	What is it men deserve?
	They deserve ridicule and being told to do better.
	So you think a 10-year-old boy deserves ridicule?
	He's a child.
	He's male.
	But you can't really judge someone until they're an adult.
	Like, that's a good idea.
	So 18-year-olds can be ridiculed.
	Yes.
	Even if they've never done anything wrong.
	I mean, eventually they probably will.
	Why?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Hold on.
	You realize that eventually the majority taught correctly, it could turn really bad.
	They could become abusive.
	They could become weirdos.
	They could become rapists.
	Hold on.
	Men's in names.
	You have to be very careful how you raise men these days.
	I have a little brother and it's very.
	You have just one brother?
	No, I have three brothers.
	Okay, how many?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What?
	Oh, you said the majority of men were creeps and weirdos.
	So the majority of your brothers must be creeps and weirdos.
	I did not raise them like that.
	Oh, so it's your family, your family is above and beyond all these other families out there.
	Are your parents still together?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	My dad cheated on my mom.
	Once again, a man hurting a woman.
	Okay.
	Women cheat all the time.
	I'm just cheating the statistics.
	But, I mean, according to you, what percentage of men do you think one day are going to be rapists?
	What do you mean?
	Well, you said, well, you know, 18-year-olds, they haven't done anything yet, but down the road, they're going to jump out and rape a woman.
	No, but if what percentage of men will rape?
	What do you think?
	Well, to be honest, like, I saw, I read this article that said one in four children, girl children, are raped.
	That's not the question I asked you.
	I asked you what percentage of men.
	So, based off of that statistic, probably maybe like one in 20 men will be a rapist.
	One in 20.
	So, 5%?
	Yeah.
	5%.
	The crime statistics don't bear this out at all.
	Completely fake news.
	In any case, so you think one of your brothers, wait, so statistically, chat, maybe help me with the math.
	She has three brothers.
	She says, one in 20 men, what's the overall percentage chance one of her brothers is a weirdo?
	Wait, would it be ff- 15?
	Would that- I don't know if my math is math-in.
	One in six?
	What?
	Where did you pull this one in 20?
	You just pulled that out.
	No, I was just saying, I think.
	Yeah.
	I was just saying.
	I think based off of the statistic I saw of one of four children, I'm taking a guess, like maybe one in 20.
	You think one in 20 men are okay?
	Yeah.
	And also, literally, every woman, every woman that I've met, like damn near have all been raped, especially as a child.
	So.
	I mean, should we pull the panelists here on this?
	I don't.
	I'm just saying, like, I have never been surrounded by so many victims of this that are caused by men.
	I've never heard of, I've never met anyone that was raped by a woman.
	And also, I'm just saying, like, people are not trying to come for men, say they hate men, but we're just saying to do better and to be more mindful of like not making women feel uncomfortable.
	Yeah, that's collective guilt, though.
	You're saying all men must do better because a small portion of men have done heinous.
	But it's not a small portion of men.
	I'm not guilty for what other men have done.
	You're not, but you're also responsible for yourself to not be like that because for some reason, men can't keep it in their pants.
	Wait, hold on.
	The majority of your gender are weirdos.
	So just make sure that you are not.
	Weirdos.
	The majority of them.
	If you don't live in our shoes.
	What's the threshold to be a weirdo?
	I think if you are coming up to someone or walking past someone and saying something vulgar about their, damn, baby, that's a tight ass.
	That's not okay to say.
	Or damn, damn, I bet your pussy's pink.
	Like, they literally say that to us.
	Oh, no.
	What fucking people are doing?
	They literally say stuff.
	No.
	I've been all over.
	No, I've been all over the country.
	They're all weird.
	I've been all over the country.
	They're all like this.
	Okay, so that's the threshold for being weird.
	Vulgar things like that, yes.
	The majority of every single day, a guy says, Is it pink?
	Yes, yes.
	I don't believe this, bro.
	Here, literally, yo, yo, I need to hear from you.
	Look, maybe it's the case for you.
	I'll know where the fuck you live.
	I have to say, I need to ask other women.
	Just to be clear, before I ask for your own anecdotes.
	If men don't hit on you, that's not my problem.
	Before I, I acknowledge, I'm sure all of you have had a bad experience with a guy.
	A guy has said something rude or gross or whatever.
	But what we're examining now is: does this happen to you every single day?
	Every single day, a guy, when you're walking by him, says, Hey, baby, you're tight ass.
	Cena, has that been your experience?
	No, has that been your experience?
	No, not entirely.
	How often would you say that happens?
	Well, it depends if I'm like alone, also depends on how I dress or if I'm like with someone.
	Whatever your life experience has been once or twice a week, once or twice a week.
	Okay, I would say probably around the same when like walking outside in public on the street.
	I don't do it often because when I do do it, okay.
	Felicity, what about you?
	I could think of maybe three to five times this year where I've been harassed like that.
	Not necessarily that comment specifically, but just any comment.
	Yeah, so like three to five times, I would say.
	Okay, what about you?
	No, I can honestly say I've never had a man give me a disrespectful comment outside, in-person substitute teaching throughout my whole life.
	I'm from India.
	I've been to Las Vegas, I've been to other countries, I've been to many states.
	I'm sorry that the majority of you have had to deal with that.
	That's completely wrong.
	I've just been appropriate.
	It's different on the internet.
	The internet is way more difficult.
	Yes, that's true.
	And that will happen in a lot more person.
	That's different.
	I'm speaking strictly like street harassment.
	Really?
	Every day?
	I wouldn't say every day, but I would say every time I go out at night, it happens.
	We're also from LA.
	We're also exactly.
	You're not from LA, I'm assuming.
	No.
	Okay, exactly.
	So it's a little different.
	LA is like New York.
	It happens.
	And I would also say, though, the type of environment also is a factor there.
	When people, I'm not excusing the behavior, it's wrong no matter what.
	But when these guys are drunk, they're going to say some stupid shit.
	It's still wrong.
	You go to Trader Joe's, and some guy who's lifting up some fucking organic cucumbers is like, look at this.
	No, he would be showing my cum.
	Like, grandpa.
	Yeah, I get those all the time.
	I'm going to hire to follow you around.
	I'm going to hire a friend.
	I'm going to sexually insult Trader Joe's.
	Exactly.
	They're a boy, and they will still try it.
	And I'm like, do you not see what I look like right now?
	What part of LA are you?
	No, this is like what part of LA.
	Like Hollywood?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	All right, whatever.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	Where were we?
	I got to get up momentarily.
	I got to take a little breather.
	Zucchini's work too.
	The chat says here.
	Let me read the chats that came through.
	Oh, sorry for the delay on these guys.
	Hold on.
	Let me let the chat.
	Adzils donated $200.
	Back again, Brian.
	Much love from the UK, Esper.
	Need a big panel soon.
	Time to assemble the Avengers.
	Andrew, Q, and Jake.
	Need to see it.
	Yo.
	Yo, Adzils, thank you for the 200, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	And yeah, it'd be good to have some of the guys on.
	Thank you, man.
	And we have a couple others here.
	By the way, guys, somebody in the chat was complaining, like, oh, I didn't read the super chats.
	The threshold for read is 100, and TTS is 200.
	So we'll display, display anything under the thresholds.
	But to read, TTS, 100, 200.
	And then we have a couple displays.
	We have a read here.
	Oh, didn't come through.
	Hold on.
	Let's see.
	That's a sequel.
	You'll display anything under the threshold, but I think you meant 10.
	Well, 10 and up, yeah.
	My mother's an 18-year Navy veteran who had two kids while serving active duty.
	Plus, I've known plenty of women who had kids while in the service.
	You can easily have kids in the military.
	Yeah, I agree.
	What that doesn't mean is good for them.
	That came in a while ago.
	That was like an hour ago or so.
	Thank you for that, though.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you, disgruntled care bear.
	Care bear stare.
	Thank you, man.
	And then these are just displays.
	Thank you guys for those.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	I need to get up momentarily.
	Felicity, why don't you we'll come back to some of the feminist stuff, but you know, why don't you ask what would the minimum income question?
	Okay.
	Center.
	Center.
	Okay, guys.
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband starting with you?
	Honestly, I'm looking to start like a family with someone that can provide generational wealth.
	Like I'm not just trying to have kids and then leave them to like struggle.
	I came from a family of middle class and there's just a lot of things that we lacked even being middle class.
	And I refuse to be in middle class.
	And if I'm going to have kids, like they're going to be able to live the best life that they could possibly live.
	I want them to be able to travel and to get good education and to do everything that they want to do in this life.
	Like who wants to be born in a life that's like struggle and pain?
	So I would say the minimum is at least like 10 to 20 million.
	Yeah, I agree that you shouldn't struggle in life.
	You shouldn't allow your kid to struggle in life.
	But you wrote 20 million.
	I don't, I think that's like a very small percentage of men that make 20 million.
	You can be totally comfortable.
	Well, that's what's up.
	But we don't want to be comfortable.
	But also, it's just our life.
	It's like above comfortable is what I'm saying.
	Without 20 million.
	I feel like a lot of people that answer this question, this is not a dig.
	You guys like equate net worth to yearly income, like salary.
	It's not the same.
	You can make like $300,000 a year and be totally set for life.
	But I'm not trying to be set for my life only.
	I'm trying to provide for a lot of people, their families and stuff for life.
	It's about like savings too.
	For sure, for sure.
	We're not trying to live like a normal life.
	We also plan to have multiple businesses and we're both in the entertainment industry.
	We definitely are not trying to have just like a normal life.
	Yeah, like we do.
	We don't see whoever wants that.
	Everyone like is an opinion is like everyone can choose their path and I don't think you should judge anyone or try to judge.
	No, no, no, I'm not judging.
	Yeah, no, I'm just saying.
	I just, I think there shouldn't be judgment on someone else's goals, even if they don't align with yours.
	Because, yes, I'm saying I want my future husband or wife to have 20 million, but that means I also will have 20 million.
	So you'll work to a job just successful.
	Exactly.
	Like, that's that's because I know I'm going to make that type of money.
	I have to have a partner that's on the same level as I am.
	Exactly.
	What job is that?
	What did I mean?
	And that's what I'm saying.
	Entertainment.
	Wait, what?
	So what did she say?
	20 million.
	You want minimum.
	I said 10.
	We said 10.
	Because here you wrote 20 million is the minimum yearly income.
	But you'll settle for 10.
	You'll settle for 10.
	Yeah, because I'm also bringing mine to the table.
	So like us together will be enough for our generations to come.
	You're bringing.
	We want to bring the same amount.
	Yeah.
	So a guy who makes 9 mil?
	Nope.
	Okay, sure.
	What's the lowest?
	Yeah, like I'm not trying to go lower than that.
	You went into 8 mil?
	Like, maybe?
	I don't know.
	Is this real?
	Are you guys?
	She wrote 20 million.
	Are you good?
	Oh, yeah.
	Our past people are in this range.
	Like, why would I settle for anything less?
	Your past.
	Yes.
	You just broke up with a guy three days ago.
	Yeah.
	I've had past relationships.
	He makes 10 mil to 20 mil.
	His dad does.
	He doesn't.
	That's why she's not marrying him.
	So I'm not ready to marry him.
	We're not ready to marry anytime soon.
	You asked us marriage.
	You didn't ask us time frame.
	I wouldn't marry.
	This could be in like 15 years when I'm like grown and I myself have the same type of money because I want to marry someone that has the same type of money I'm going to make.
	And I know for a fact I'm going to make that.
	And also I know he will eventually make that much money.
	So it's not like he's a bum.
	Sure.
	You know?
	Okay.
	But it's like, I'm not even going to look your way if you cannot like eventually get.
	But it's not because I are.
	It's because I have certain goals and I want my partner to have the same goals.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	So it's 20 million for you.
	What did you say?
	I have no preference.
	Well, I mean.
	I mean, it'd be nice.
	How much does your current partner make?
	A hair less than me.
	Which is.
	I don't really want to talk about it.
	Is it six figures?
	No, no, no.
	Neither one of us makes six figures.
	Most people in the U.S. look paycheck for paycheck.
	Sorry, and you said...
	I would say $10 million or, like, yeah.
	Yeah, no, you wrote $20 million.
	Yeah, we wrote the same thing.
	Okay.
	I'm going to address the 20 million thing.
	Moving on next.
	What about you?
	I didn't write anything down.
	Yeah, you left it them to me.
	I wasn't necessarily sure what to write because I am actually a very simple girl.
	I worry about love.
	That's what I worry about.
	And I understand.
	So you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's?
	Hell no.
	Well, it's got to matter somewhat.
	I don't know.
	Like, you have to have some sort of drive.
	Okay, but so what's the minimum?
	100K?
	At least 100K.
	Oh, well, yeah, you should have wrote at least 100K then.
	All right.
	Cena, what about you?
	400K.
	400,000.
	Canadian or USD.
	Oh, USD.
	Oh, the Canadians are fucked.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I put 1 million.
	1 million.
	1 million.
	Yeah, a little bit of manifestation there.
	I should have raised my standards, girls.
	I said minimum 50 to 60K.
	And the reason why I said that is because I understand compounding interest.
	I know that $1 value today can actually be more tomorrow.
	So when I look at it, it's like, okay, you need to be able to sustain yourself.
	50 to 60K in my state is pretty doable for one person.
	It's okay, we don't need...
	Yeah.
	Not to cut you off, just.
	No, it's okay, but we just needed the straightforward answer.
	Felicity?
	You guys are making me look humble, and they usually flame me for my answer.
	I'm thinking in Santa Barbara, because I live here, 150.
	Like 100.
	10,000.
	So we have 20 million.
	10.
	Well, 20.
	You guys roll.
	Oh, but I'm saying 10.
	Okay, 10.
	You know what?
	I want 10 million too.
	Exactly.
	And you will have it, man.
	You will have it.
	Speak it and take this thing.
	There's no reason.
	You want 400,000.
	You want a million.
	I'm going to focus on the millionaire demands to start.
	Cool.
	And then Cena will get a small percentage of my wrath.
	So let's start with the two women here who want a guy to make between 10 and 20 million per year.
	Fine.
	Let's go.
	Richness.
	Love it.
	And you guys think you want this because you think you guys will make this money.
	No, because I know I will make it.
	You know?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I'm smart.
	I'm driven.
	I work hard.
	There's no reason why I shouldn't.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, there's a lot of smart, driven, strong work ethic people that make $100,000 a year.
	Yeah, for sure.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	I'm not degrading anybody.
	I'm just saying these are my goals.
	There's nothing wrong with goals.
	And what do you do for work again?
	Like, how are you going to do that?
	Honestly, I do a lot of things.
	I do a lot of freelance, like creative directing, styling.
	I get casted for like, I did like a Grammy show, you know, like a lot of just like performing arts.
	How much do you make currently?
	A year, like 80,000.
	80,000.
	Okay.
	What are you doing?
	But I also have sponsors.
	What do you mean, sponsors?
	Oh, sugar daddies.
	Yes.
	All right.
	You're not going to make it.
	But honestly.
	You're going to get from sugar daddies.
	Oh, no.
	I don't plan to, but they're going to fund my revenues and they're going to fund the things that are going to eventually make me that much money.
	And I don't even have to give them sugar.
	I'm just a professional finesser.
	Let's dive into that quickly and briefly.
	So how many sugar daddies do you currently have?
	Well, I just got out of a relationship, so I have like an old one, I guess, I could call up.
	But in a good year, I like to have around like 10, and then they all give me like $10,000 a month.
	They all give you $10,000 a month.
	Yeah.
	But when I, you know.
	All of them give you.
	Just about, yeah.
	So you make $100,000 a month?
	When I have $10, yeah.
	How many do you have now?
	Like, I just got a relationship.
	Oh, but you were dating him for two years?
	Yeah, but we broke up five times.
	So, like, in between that, like, I got some and then I like let them go.
	And so do you meet up with these guys?
	Sometimes.
	Like, a lot of them live in New York or San Francisco.
	They fly out?
	They do, but I never really meet them.
	Like, I don't know.
	I just make up an excuse that I can't see them or something.
	Like, I just finesse.
	I literally just finesse.
	So fraud.
	Okay.
	And then so a guy has flown.
	But I've gone on trips with some guys before too, but they just want me to be around them.
	Like, they just want to be seen with me, you know?
	So it's like, you know, it's a win-win for everyone.
	So how many times have you done this thing where you the guy flies you out expecting to meet up with you, but you don't meet them?
	Like three times.
	And where were the locations that- New York.
	All three times?
	And Vegas.
	Anywhere else?
	Miami?
	No, I've actually never been to Miami.
	No, Miami.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So do you have any sugar daddies right now?
	Or no?
	I guess kind of what were you finessing your boyfriend?
	No, no.
	Because you were with him for like no, actually, I spent more money on him, low-key.
	So he was finessing you?
	Not really.
	He just wasn't romantic, you know?
	He wouldn't think to like to do those things for me because he just wasn't really romantic.
	But I mean, like, I don't know.
	He's young too.
	And like, I honestly love, like, I loved him, like, and I love him a lot.
	But I'm just not like really looking to find love right now because it's just making me more broke.
	Like, I need to like focus on myself.
	And then, once I have my money up, then I can like look for love or whatever.
	But also, even when I do find someone to marry, they have to be like connected with their self, with their soul, with everything, and also make that amount of money.
	Like, you can have both.
	People who say, like, oh, you're just a gold digger, no.
	I'm also looking for real connection and the financial part.
	Like, you can have both.
	I know people have both.
	My mom has both.
	My aunt has both.
	My sisters have both.
	You can find love and financial support.
	Don't let anyone tell you that you can.
	How many sisters do you have?
	I have four.
	Ages?
	We're all two years apart, and I'm the youngest girl.
	Oh, you're the okay, so they're all older than you.
	Do they also finesse?
	No.
	None of them?
	Just you?
	Yeah.
	None of them have like sugar daddies or whatever.
	Okay.
	Could I ask you a question about finessing?
	Yes.
	Do they, the men you do this to, they get really mad when you do that?
	No.
	Okay, because you might, I don't want to sound rude or anything, but you might want to be careful because at the very least, if they don't get aggressive, they may demand legal action.
	And that could be that would that wouldn't be good for you.
	So you may want to.
	It's more of just like they're choosing to give me this money.
	No one's asking them to.
	And like I tell them what I want and they give it to me and that's their choice.
	So if you want to spoil me, that's on you.
	I don't have a sugar daddy, but I would say that most of the time, and I've never had one, but from the experience, I don't have a sugar daddy, but from my friends' experiences of having sugar daddies, they come up to them and they want to give them money.
	Like it almost feeds their ego to give them money.
	So when you say finesse, what do you mean?
	Because when I think of finesse, I think like that's just a word she's using.
	Nobody's like, but she's really not finessing.
	She's really giving her the money.
	And finessing would.
	I am basically selling them a fantasy.
	And that's all it is.
	What's the fantasy?
	That I'm interested in them.
	But you're not?
	No.
	Okay, and so you would say, hey, baby, can you pay for my rent?
	Yeah.
	Can you buy for my eggs?
	Oh my gosh, this dress would look so good on me.
	Like, let's go shopping for dinner.
	I want to go on a date with you.
	I need an outfit for the date.
	Bam, outfit.
	Oh, I need to, you know, drive up to see my family.
	I need a new car.
	Bam, new car.
	Oh, I need to come up and see you.
	I need.
	The guy bought you a car.
	He helped me fix it.
	But I already had a car that I bought myself.
	But like, you know, it's stuff like that.
	Like, oh, I need this for you.
	But would you describe yourself as ever having scammed a guy?
	Scammed?
	Like a scammer.
	No.
	Because you said you would accept flights out to locations under the assumption that you would be meeting these guys, but then you would just make up an excuse and not meet them.
	Yeah.
	You've done that.
	Yeah.
	Have you done anything else similar to that?
	Not really.
	I really just lied to them.
	I'm not like scamming them or taking their credit cards or whatever.
	Like everything they give to me, they are giving them a bad thing.
	But you lie to them.
	What is the lie that you're telling them?
	That I like them or that I'll see them ever.
	But that you want to be in a relationship with them, right?
	Well, sometimes there's an understanding that I'm not going to fall in love with you.
	They just want my company around them.
	And men will pay for that.
	Do you meet them in person?
	Sometimes, but just dinner.
	Like, it's always just.
	Have you ever had any hookups with any of them?
	No.
	None of them?
	No.
	they literally 10 000 a month and yes they just they there are pay pigs that want How old are they to clean?
	Are they like way older guys?
	Yeah, they're like 50.
	In their 50s.
	Okay.
	And you just keep dinner?
	They have nothing to do with their money and they want to like say that they gave me that.
	They want to.
	They also, some men are into you draining their bank accounts.
	They're like, please, please join me.
	You're talking about FinDom now.
	Yeah, like pay pigs and all of that.
	Okay.
	Men are weird.
	Might as well capitalize off of that.
	But so you are telling them basically that you're into them, but you're not.
	Okay.
	Don't you think that's kind of creepy?
	It's creepy of them to want a 23-year-old when they're in the middle of the day.
	Why would that?
	Well, hold on.
	Now we're in an age gap territory.
	Don't you think, you know, you're doing a romance scam?
	No, they know that I will never love them.
	They know that.
	Well, hold on, but you said you lie to them.
	You said you lie to them.
	Yeah.
	And you say that you express that you're interested in them, but you're not so that you can confer financial benefit.
	That's a romance scam.
	Not really.
	Yes, really.
	They want me to hang out around them.
	That's what they just want to do.
	No, but you said you lie to them, you finesse them.
	Like I lie saying I think they're attractive, but they know I will never fall in love with them or marry them or like be aware of them.
	Okay, let's cut through the bullshit.
	Let's be clear here.
	You lead them on.
	You make them think that you're into them for maybe something more than just, you know, the dinner or whatever.
	You say, you know, I don't know exactly verbatim what you say, but you will express some interest in developing some sort of relationship, but you don't.
	You don't want that.
	That's misleading, don't you think?
	It is.
	Do you think that that's virtuous?
	I think that the fact that these older men even are preying on me.
	They're preying on you.
	It sounds like the reverse.
	Yes.
	It kind of sounds like you're preying on them.
	We're preying on each other.
	It's a win-win.
	Why?
	I don't know how they'd be preying on you.
	Because I'm clearly a lot younger.
	Like when they were 30 years ago.
	You're an adult, you're 23.
	Yes.
	But when I was 23.
	Your frontal lobe is fully developed, basically.
	When they were 30, I was literally like 13.
	So?
	Still, it's you want to be a little bit of a daddy.
	You're adults now.
	You want a young girl.
	Men want a young girl.
	They want them to be, you know, tight and right and I don't get this logic.
	Hold on, really quick.
	I don't understand that.
	Do you think we want your old saggy ball?
	I gotta ask you.
	I don't understand this logic.
	Okay, so would you object to like a 45-year-old dating a 35-year-old?
	45, 35.
	Do you object to that?
	10 years is fine, but it's like when you're literally.
	No, no, no, but hold on.
	When he was 20, she was 10.
	Okay, but I'm just like, it's the age they're at.
	20 years of an adult and like of them being a child.
	It's just like a little much.
	But hold on.
	A 45-year-old dating a 35-year-old, when he was 20, she was 10.
	Sure.
	So the logic doesn't...
	No, but I don't think for a 35 and a 45-year-old to date, I don't think that's weird.
	That's their own.
	I mean, their frontal lobes are fully also developed and they have some life experience.
	And what they're doing is that they're not.
	I think it's developing options.
	Bro, this is massive.
	Okay, you're two years old.
	I think it develops from 23 to 24 for girls.
	But for a woman to be so cute.
	She's in the phase.
	She's still.
	She's good.
	She's growing.
	We're still learning.
	You still have so much to isolate.
	By the way.
	Compared to a 35-year-old?
	As you age, your cognitive abilities actually start to decline.
	But at what age do they start to decline?
	Oh, exactly.
	So that has no relevance to me.
	It's absolutely relevant.
	But in any case, I don't even buy into this bullshit prefrontal cortex nonsense.
	You're the one that brought it up, so I'm just going with it.
	Right, but what I'm saying is, she's 23.
	She's an adult.
	They're not preying on you.
	You're not a baby.
	You're an adult woman.
	Yes, but they could definitely go after someone that's like a grown woman, like 30.
	You're a grown woman.
	No, my frontal cortex is not developed to 25.
	So why not 25?
	Why not?
	So why not?
	Why not tell them that then?
	Say, even someone else.
	Because I'm not trying to be in a relationship with them.
	Like, I'm strictly, they want me to be young and hot around them.
	Okay, well, that's not for free.
	Then I want your money.
	When you say they're preying on you because you're 23, I mean, how are they praying?
	What about them?
	What about what they're doing?
	They only want me because I'm 23.
	They don't care about like me and my like.
	What?
	Yeah.
	What if they just think you're attractive?
	Yes, but it's like they don't even like they care more about my age than they do if I'm attractive.
	Like they like that I'm young.
	So you're an adult, you're 23.
	Yes, but like as a 60-year-old man, you don't need to be with a 23-year-old.
	Well, nothing forces 23-year-old women to date 60-year-olds, but it occurs to me if you're engaging in a romance scam that you're saying you're trying to justify your conduct because they're older.
	So nothing forces, you don't have to date these older men.
	Right.
	Or be involved with them, but you're just saying, you know what?
	They're creepy old men, so fuck them.
	I'm going to finesse their money.
	Yes, basically.
	Oh, boy.
	It's a win-win for both.
	It's a win-win.
	How's it a win-win?
	Because they don't have to.
	They first have a young, hot person next to them.
	Oh, next.
	Oh, my God.
	When no one would regularly.
	I just get to talk to her.
	No one would want to.
	Sign me up.
	Fuck that shit.
	Oh, my God.
	You'd have to pay me to just, you'd have to pay.
	I don't know.
	Maybe who knows how I'm going to be at fucking 50.
	At 50, you'd have to pay me to just kick it with a 23.
	Oh, we're just, I just have to pay for all your shit and take you to an expensive dinner.
	Fuck for you.
	Shit.
	I ain't doing it.
	Well, that's good.
	That's all your choice.
	Yeah, these guys are simps.
	I mean, to be clear, you are not sugar daddy.
	They're incels.
	I want to say something.
	Look, they don't.
	I criticize what the women do, but these fucking older guys are the biggest fucking simps ever.
	The guys that do this.
	They're incels.
	They're not.
	They're incels.
	No women want them, so they could pay.
	I don't know if they're creepy.
	I think it's pathetic, though.
	I think it's pathetic to spend $10,000 a month on a chick and not be fucking her.
	First off, you shouldn't, even if you're fucking her.
	You don't got to drop $10,000 to fuck a chick.
	Like, come on, bro.
	They want to.
	Fucking Big L, ruining the dating pool.
	Imagine being like some fresh out of college, like normal 23-year-old dude.
	And like this, her, you're trying to date her.
	And she's like, well, all these dudes are giving me $10,000 a month.
	It's like, the fuck out.
	Well, here's what I'm saying.
	I make like $4K a month.
	Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and start the thing.
	I chose my man when I was with him.
	Chose love.
	Nepo baby.
	Oh, I chose love.
	Super famous father, by the way.
	Nepo baby, by the way.
	I chose love over, I could have had multiple sugar daddies and like, you know, been up, but I chose to be with him.
	Oh, so romantic.
	You could choose, and I chose love, and I got fucking hurt.
	You are such a romantic letting all these, putting aside all these sugar daddy is who you're finessing.
	For real.
	And then you dated a really famous dude's son in Hollywood.
	It's really just romance.
	It's so romantic.
	I know.
	It is.
	It's sad.
	Wait, so okay, hold on.
	Let's get back to this 20 million thing, though.
	You want a guy, minimum yearly income, $20 million.
	I was asking you what you do for work.
	You say you make $80,000 a year just from your own income.
	What are you going to be doing in five years, 10 years that's making you $10,000 to $20 million a year?
	I do multiple things.
	So I have like my music, that route, engineering, DJing.
	But eventually I want to just go into engineering.
	So, you know, and I'm starting to work and be around like a lot of well-known artists.
	I'm not going to name drop.
	But yeah, so there's the music route.
	And then me and my friends were also creating a production company.
	And we all do something different.
	You know, we all do styling, modeling, but we all are coming together and creating a production company.
	And then I also have a club that me and my best friend are opening up.
	I just have like a lot of different avenues.
	And yeah.
	And all of these sugar daddies are funding it.
	All right.
	And then I'm going to address that really quick, but you also want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million dollars a year.
	You do music.
	I do a lot of things.
	But how much do you make currently?
	I would say like $6,000 a month, $7,000 on a good month, $10,000 on a good month.
	$70,000 to $80,000 a year.
	Okay, so you said that, well, I'm going to get this kind of man because I'm going to make this much money.
	What are you going to be doing in five years, 10 years?
	That's me.
	I am going to be full on investing my money.
	I already invest.
	I started investing at 18 years old.
	What do you invest in?
	I invest, so I have a Roth IRA that I opened up when I was 18 that I have index fund.
	Yeah, so that's that's just that was just in case, you know, I didn't get money other.
	But to in the United States, in California, if you want to live a certain life, you have to have a bunch of income.
	So that's what I'm doing and I'm starting.
	Since 18, I started building different forms of income.
	Now I have about four, but I will have by that time, I will have 10, 15, etc.
	That's how I'm going to get my money because I'm going to invest.
	I'm going to open up businesses.
	I'm already saving some money to open up my first business.
	I'm going to get the money because I am going to invest some money and etc.
	And you're going to, you don't think you know you're going to make 10 to 20 million a year.
	Yeah.
	In the future.
	For sure.
	Because like also just a bunch of businesses and music.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You don't know us personally, but like you don't know my drive.
	I'm a betting man.
	I'm a betting man.
	But also I don't know anything.
	I would love to have like a 10-year bet and be like, no, for real.
	Like for real.
	Because you just don't, I don't, like, you don't know us.
	Let's do it.
	And you don't know the group of people that we're with.
	I think we should.
	Okay, here's my here's my rapid proposal.
	10 years' time.
	10 years is that 23, 30.
	I would say by 40.
	No, no, no, no, that's 30.
	10 years, 10 years.
	I would say by 30 to be 10.
	Okay, so here's the proposal, right?
	You guys have to be making, we'll split the difference, 15 million a year.
	15 million a year.
	Uh, and we'll wager a million dollars.
	So, so if you guys are making 15 million dollars a year, I want to do 10 because I said minimum.
	Your confidence is no, it's not.
	I had I've been saying 10.
	I literally said when you said 20, I said I changed it to a 10.
	And then you said, Okay, I said, Okay, I'll take that.
	I won't even change anything.
	Cool.
	If you're making 10 million a year, you're making 10 million a year.
	I'll bet each of you individually.
	I'll wager a million dollars.
	I'll wager a million dollars that neither of you will be making that much.
	And you can't, by the way, there's got to be some carve-outs here.
	Uh, I want to carve out sex work from it.
	You can't be sex workers.
	Why?
	I'm not a sex worker.
	You have ambitions to be a sex worker.
	No, I'm just saying why.
	Well, because you're saying, look, I think perhaps it's even dubious.
	The money has to be earned through a business, like your business endeavor, right?
	So you can't just have some simp sugar daddy give you $10 million.
	What if she does?
	Then she gets it.
	That's the money.
	You're mad that it's that easy for me.
	That has that would have.
	First off, I would probably still take that bet because I doubt you would, even if you were a sex worker, you would make $10 million a year.
	But I'm carving that out.
	Carving it out has to be through, because you guys, everything you listed for how you're going to make the money had nothing to do with sex work, right?
	So that's the only carve-out.
	But you can make any other industry.
	You make that much.
	You have to prove it.
	You have to show me the finances.
	If I lose, you get a million.
	If I win, I get a million.
	And if you're not making that much money, trust me, that's going to really financially fuck you guys over quite a bit.
	I would assume.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Shit.
	But you guys willing to take that wager?
	Would that even be legally binding?
	This wager?
	Is it legally binding?
	I don't know.
	Chat?
	Chat, can we?
	I don't know.
	We need a napkin to sign it.
	Sign it in blood.
	Oh, I get 10 million?
	Do I get more?
	Do I get more?
	I don't know.
	It should just be one mil across the board.
	So, but just to be clear, if we can make this a legally binding contract, If we can make it legally binding, I want to write down some specific things, too.
	What would the specific things be?
	Well, it's not.
	I mean, honestly, I need to do more reading on contracts and legal aspects because I want to know 100% everything, and then I'll sign up.
	Oh, it's just super simple.
	If you make 10 million, I'll give you guys each a million dollars.
	Well, you make 10 million, I give you a mil, you make 10 million.
	Like, it can't, it's not a group project.
	But, like, the sugar daddies are funding my that's literally what's going to fund what's going to make me this money.
	That so, yeah, that's just what it is.
	Yeah, but like, there, there has to be some carve-out where, like, some guy can't just like, okay, year 10, here's 10 mil.
	So, you don't let me loan you 10 million.
	Like, you have to prove your source of income beyond just some guy like bailing you out of the contract.
	It has to be like, okay, well, I've been earning this much.
	So, you guys willing to take the essence of the wager?
	You pay me a million dollars in 10 years if you're not making 10 mil.
	Oh, in 10 years?
	Yeah, let's do it.
	Realistically, easiest $2 million I've ever been.
	Realistically, I would say I'm going to make my first 10 mil at 40.
	I think that's the age I'm going to make it because of my investments and because of the trajectory of everything because I don't have a sugar daddy.
	I don't have that.
	I have to like, I have to, I have to invest my money.
	I have to wait for it to come up.
	But if you want to do it, I'm down for it when I'm 40.
	I'm 23.
	That's 17 years.
	I'll get to my point.
	Do we know each other?
	I'll just get to my point.
	I'll get to my point.
	You want a guy who makes 10 to 20 mil.
	You want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million.
	I'm not going to get married anytime soon.
	Justification.
	I'm going to make this much.
	Neither of you, I'm not saying this.
	You're not going to end up making this much money.
	And you're not.
	In my lifetime.
	And not only that.
	Not only that, you're not going to find a guy who makes that much money to date you.
	That's a lie because I literally already have.
	Where's who?
	You don't know him.
	He's not famous.
	And it's not the Nebo baby.
	I've dated people.
	I've been dating him.
	I've dated people previously.
	Hold on.
	I get that these guys will fuck you.
	They'll keep you around for a couple months, whatever.
	I'm talking.
	When I say you won't get that guy, I'm talking long-term.
	I've meant I was with him long term.
	You've spent what?
	I was with him long term.
	You spent hours?
	Is that what you said?
	I said I was with him long term.
	Did anybody else hear something spent hours with him?
	Long term.
	I was with him for almost two years.
	And he made that.
	Two two-year relationships.
	Okay.
	I've actually had three.
	Okay, but so it ended?
	Yeah.
	Okay, you're not.
	Congrats.
	You're not.
	I'm just saying, you said I could never get that.
	I've already gotten that before.
	So what I'm talking about is: do you want to get married?
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	I'm not talking about some dude you dated.
	When I'm talking long-term, I'm talking like, that's the dude you settled down with and have kids with.
	I don't know if you want kids, but.
	Why would you say, like, because that man wanted to marry me and that's why I broke up with him.
	So what makes you think I can't do that again?
	Wait, how old was he?
	He was like 10 years older than me.
	He was like 32.
	Oh, wait.
	Why were you dating a guy that you would describe as predatory?
	Not for me.
	How old were you when you were dating him?
	19?
	Mm-hmm.
	Whoa.
	Wait, it's weird for like, okay, I mean, I don't know.
	You would think that's predatory, it seems.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I never said that.
	So you guys were in a monogamous long-term relationship?
	But he obviously was ready for marriage.
	And he was making, just to be clear, 33-year-old who is making 10 to 20 million a year?
	Yes, that's his business.
	That's not, hold on.
	It is.
	It's possible, but it's not probable.
	He had like old money.
	Like his family gave him like the businesses and that ran everything.
	But it's possible we have.
	It was like a trucking company, oil, like all that.
	His Middle Eastern company is where it's ended.
	Get yourself an oil man.
	For sure.
	I don't look.
	You dated him.
	That's cool.
	I don't see the ring.
	No, exactly.
	I think I don't want it.
	But what's like, what's to say?
	Well, then I can't have that again.
	Why would you say that to me?
	But if you don't want that guy, how many men do you come across that make 10 to 20 million a year?
	There's a lot in New York.
	You just have to travel.
	Okay.
	There are.
	There's not a lot of men who make 10 to 20 million a year.
	There is.
	There isn't.
	There isn't.
	So in New York, yes, there is a lot of people.
	What's the percent?
	Look it up.
	Just to, okay, so.
	But there is.
	To be in the top 1%.
	1% is over 500,000.
	What you're talking about is 0.0001% of men.
	So it's not a lot of men.
	I'm just saying I'm around a lot of rich men because I just know where to find them, and there's a lot of them.
	Yeah, but how do you know that they want you for long term?
	Look, don't confuse me.
	Because I'm literally wifey and I'm hotter.
	You're wifey.
	You think you're wifey?
	A lot of women come on, though, and they say the same thing, the same thing, so they must all be hanging out around the same men, right?
	So the guy is not really looking for.
	I'm not sure.
	I find my men all over.
	It's not just in one area.
	But there's no money.
	In between your sugar, 10 sugar daddy finessing sessions, you're also wifey.
	No.
	What makes you wifey?
	I'm not wifey to them as sugar daddy.
	No, no, what I'm saying is I feel like it's a contradiction.
	So on one hand, you're involved in low-tier sex work.
	You're being a sugar baby.
	And you're, you know, when you're single, you're a sugar baby, you're finessing these dudes, scamming romance scams, but you're also wifey material.
	Women who have sugar daddies, I think, remove themselves from being construed or viewed as wife material.
	That's not wife material behavior.
	You can pick and choose.
	You turn a hoe into a housewife.
	I'm not being a hoe.
	It's hoe.
	It's kind of hoeing.
	But I'm not, though, because they just want my presence.
	And I understand.
	Pay for it.
	Right, but it's low virtue conduct.
	So I'm not saying that you're.
	I'm just saying I can choose to do that.
	I can pick and choose who I give my wifiness to, but not all these men deserve my wifey.
	What is wifey?
	What does that mean to be wifey?
	To basically be their right-hand man, to be the person they can come to, to you know, be vulnerable with a safe place, a home, in a person.
	When I have a man, I love to cook for them.
	I love to teach them how to cook.
	I love to do spiritual things with them, like connect with them on a deeper level.
	I love to grow together.
	It's someone I want to grow with and like I actually give effort and time to rather than how I would treat like these sugar daddies.
	I would do anything for them.
	I constantly am romantic to them, constantly lifting them up.
	I'm just basically like adding on to their life.
	I'm not taking away.
	I'm not, you know, making their life, but I'm adding on to it as they are to me.
	And it's very much deeper and more spiritual for me, like rather than a sugar daddy.
	Like I'm not going to get deep with the sugar daddy.
	They're there for sugar.
	And that's it.
	Hold on.
	I'll address this in just a sec.
	The only good man donated $200.
	We've barely heard from Chair 7, but my guess is she would never, under any circumstances, have a sugar daddy that alone makes her the most attractive woman on the panel.
	That's you, by the way.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	So my question to you, because I've listened to this, and you just went through your definition of wifey.
	And from what I'm hearing, you're saying that that's where you had the most.
	It was just wonderful for you.
	That's where you felt alive.
	You felt like you were a woman.
	So if you value wifey so much, can you give up the sugar daddy now so you can continue to develop into the wifey material so that you are the best version of yourself?
	Because it takes time.
	It takes time to develop that.
	And if you're saying, I don't want to get married right now, well, you know, during that whole process of my husband being separated from me, I retrained myself.
	How do I become a better wife?
	How do I be there for my man?
	Like, and that was over three years.
	So, at what point in time are you going to sit there and say, okay, I'm going to drop off Sugar Daddy because I find more value in wifey and I'm going to start developing now?
	Well, I've been doing that.
	I've had like multiple relationships that were two years, and it's just like all I've done, all I've gotten from that is, yeah, some experience, but also I've lost myself.
	I gave all my energy to them and got nothing in return.
	And it's just like I need to focus on me because no one's going to do it for me but me.
	So, I, until I find someone that's husband material, I'm not going to treat them like a husband.
	Like, you know, and also, I can't afford to like be in love right now.
	Like, I need to focus on my ambitions.
	And until, you know, I'm, I want to become the best version of myself.
	Also, I told myself I wouldn't get into a relationship if I'm not like my higher self.
	And so, until then, I just don't really want to pick up the wifey duties because I've been doing that.
	And, like, I don't think men should do husband duties until he's actually husband.
	Men shouldn't protect.
	Men shouldn't provide.
	They shouldn't pay for first dates.
	Under your logic, you think that that makes sense?
	Like, men shouldn't pay for first dates until she's the wife?
	Well, I think that your first date is your opportunity to show her what you can provide for her.
	This also applies to women then.
	So, shouldn't you be doing the wife?
	I don't want to provide financially for a men.
	No, no, I'm not talking about you doing the male role, but you said you don't want to do the female roles, the wifely, wifey duties until you're actually married.
	Why can't men?
	I'm not married, more like in a relationship.
	You're waiting until you're in a relationship.
	Okay, well, the same could apply to men then.
	Until you're in a relationship, until you have commitment from the girl, you shouldn't pay for dates.
	You shouldn't.
	Well, you're going to show her you can provide nothing for her, so why would she want you?
	Well, the same can be said towards women.
	You show that you're not submissive, you show that you don't do any of the more traditional female gender roles until you're in a relationship.
	Why should the man get into a relationship with you?
	Well, he shouldn't, but that's like very different than showing you can provide or protect for a woman.
	Like, both people should see, are these people promiscuous?
	Like, both parties should find out that.
	But, like, as far as a man providing, and like, if you're not, if you think that you're the princess, then you're not going to have a princess.
	You can be single for the rest of your life.
	We're going to let Felicity, you're going to read these chats, okay?
	Chair one: majority of men are creeps.
	Also, I want 10K a month from Sugar Daddy's.
	Chair two, these doctors and lawyers are why Brian gets such quality clips.
	These girls are toaster brains.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Nico.
	Appreciate it.
	We have another one coming through from Victor.
	Thank you, Victor.
	Thank you, Nico.
	Ladies, the average earned salary in the U.S. is $65K per year.
	If your perfect man was earning $90K per year, would you marry him?
	For the women who said 20 mil, 20 mil, would you marry a guy?
	1010.
	But would you marry a guy who makes $90,000 a year?
	No.
	Perfect, though.
	I don't think so.
	I think you said $400,000.
	Would you marry?
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	$90,000 a year.
	It was perfect then.
	Perfect.
	Okay.
	So he's a 10, but he makes 90K.
	Yes or no?
	No.
	Yo, Grant.
	No.
	By the way, some of them came through earlier just as displays.
	Thank you guys.
	A couple of you bought some t-shirts, bought some merch, shopped at whatever.com.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	You can have a little display pop-up like grants just popped up there.
	And let's do some quick shout-outs really quick, Nick, since we're here.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
	Nick, can you mouse wheel scroll up to make it just one bigger here?
	Yo, guys, it's been five minutes since we had a prime.
	I think it's bugged, boys.
	Can you guys drop a prime sub?
	Test it out.
	Thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Support us over there on Twitch.
	Just, oh, yeah.
	Venmo Cash App, whatever, pod.
	Show us the Venmo 2.
	Let me shout people out.
	Let's see.
	We have Caleb.
	Thank you for the 25 on Venmo.
	Rudy, thank you for the 5 on Cash App.
	Thank you, guys.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	So a couple things here I wanted to dive into here.
	Anonymous, thank you for the gifted five subs.
	Hold on.
	We needed to do.
	Okay.
	Do you think you'll meet a guy?
	The guy you end up with, you think he'll make 10 to 20 mil?
	You know, if he doesn't and I'm making that money, then yes, he will because I'm going to put him on and I'm going to show him the ways and we're going to make it together if I'm making it.
	Look, I'm not trying to be like a buzzkill party pooper or whatever.
	To make 10 to 20 mil, that's a lot of money.
	Yeah.
	That's very ambitious.
	Again, I'm ambitious.
	I do well.
	I'm financially successful.
	I don't think I'm going to make 10 to 20 mil a year.
	I think you definitely could.
	You could.
	I think you definitely could.
	I don't think so.
	But it's mindset over everything.
	Look, hold on.
	I'm still going to work hard, but I don't think it's like a limiting belief.
	I mean, people might say, well, by definition, it's a limiting belief.
	But I think it's a pragmatic belief.
	I think it's a realistic belief.
	It's like, look, knowing what we know about how much the average person earns.
	But we're not the average person.
	You don't know us.
	You don't know who we're around.
	There's a statistic that says 68% of the people in the United States live paycheck to paycheck.
	We're also not planning to live here much longer.
	Like, we're not going to live in the U.S. Wait, where are you moving to?
	Dubai.
	i mean dubai is great but honestly my family has like an island in costa rica and i'm trying to go there your family has it okay i'm sure the the earnings potential of people in costa rica is way lower than like what people are exactly i'm I'm going to live there, but we'll.
	Yeah, well, our bet still has to be 20 million USD.
	Yeah.
	It can't be like Costa Rican currency or something.
	I'm actually curious, look up the percentage of how many people make over 10 million.
	Yeah, Nick, just chat GPT.
	You can just open the chat ChatGPT.com.
	What percentage of men make, let's just say 10 miles.
	Probably only men.
	10 mil per year.
	0.0000 per year.
	It's going to be 0.000 something.
	In the world, though, I don't plan on finding my men in America.
	Well, wouldn't that lower your chances?
	The richest people are in the United States.
	Dubai?
	Okay, well, fine.
	Go to Dubai.
	I'm definitely going to.
	You really want to live in Dubai?
	Okay.
	Yeah, go ahead, Puller.
	Live in Dubai.
	Make it bigger.
	Mouse wheel scroll.
	That's good.
	Can you read it?
	That's my thought.
	Felicity.
	About 27.
	It's very rare.
	According to IRS data, in the U.S., there are about 27,000 households out of hundreds of millions that report incomes over 10 million.
	And I was like, what about people that don't report?
	Exactly.
	Okay, great.
	Due to drug reports, we have to report.
	That works out to about 0.02% all tax returns.
	Now, mind you, though, mind you, this is calculating for all men.
	This is married 70-year-olds, married 60-year-olds, married 30, 40, 50-year-olds, people married.
	It's including men who you think are creepy and weird.
	It's including men who are gay.
	It's including men you're not going to be attracted to.
	So if we factor in all these other things, then it just like three dudes.
	I'm not trying to find three dudes out there who would be down for this shit.
	He won't be American, though.
	Yeah, you don't X that.
	But what was it?
	Look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I don't think you guys are going to make this much money.
	That's okay.
	I don't think.
	I don't know which one's more unlikely.
	I think it's more.
	Okay, you guys aren't going to make that much money.
	You're not going to end up with a guy who makes that much money either.
	If I don't, I'm not saying I will.
	I don't, I don't, the possibility.
	I want to.
	This is my goal, but I don't, I'm, I'm, I might not even meet that person.
	I might not even get married.
	I'm on the fence about if I want kids right now.
	So you just, I mean, that's fine, but you just make that money myself for sure.
	Person that you want to spend your life with, one of the criteria is 10 million.
	No, it's just great to like have, like, have those goals because I know that if I can do it, there's other people in the world that can do it too.
	But what's wrong with just being realistic?
	There's nothing.
	There's nothing wrong.
	Like, this is my opinion, and why does it affect you so much?
	Well, I mean, like, you don't have the same ambitions that I do, and that's just it.
	Well, I'm probably more ambitious than you.
	I can actually.
	I don't think so.
	Well, I think I can actually realize my goals.
	I think, look, there's plenty of people out there who want who, oh, it'd be great to be a billionaire, but they don't actually have the wherewithal and the hustle to actually get there.
	You also don't know us, and you don't know who we know, and you don't know who we are friends with.
	You just don't know us.
	I don't know you guys, but I mean, again, I'm a betting man.
	I don't think you guys are gonna, you're not gonna do it.
	I'm not sure if I can do it.
	I'm 40.
	I will have 10 million.
	What's that?
	By the time you're 40?
	I will have touched 10 million.
	Per year.
	You'll make 10 mil per year.
	No, I will have 10 million.
	Hold on.
	Net worth is different than yearly income.
	I said that earlier.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm still thinking it's very unlikely you will have a 10 million net worth by 40.
	I think it's unlikely.
	You are in the bet.
	I think it's unlikely.
	And I think.
	Let's do it.
	I mean, yearly income, 10 mil a year, that's crazy.
	No, yeah, that's honestly.
	I read that a little wrong.
	Well, you're walking back your position.
	No, I still think it's possible.
	I definitely think it's anything is possible.
	If other people have done it before, then what's stopping me?
	But this idea that anything is possible, it's possible.
	Like, it's possible I could have like an eight sum with all of you right now.
	Like, it's possible.
	It's not possible.
	Absolutely not.
	Definitely not.
	It's possible for me.
	It's not a possibility.
	Definitely not.
	It's negative.
	It's impossible.
	It's possible.
	It's not possible.
	We could end this stream right now.
	We could just have a fucking orgy.
	It's possible.
	It's very unprobable, though.
	Very likely.
	It's not possible because I would have to say it was okay.
	She would have to be okay.
	Nobody would say the okay to that, so it's not possible.
	No, but nevertheless, it's not a possibility.
	It's not possible.
	You could just be so in the next hour, you're so overwhelmed by my charm that you're like, you know what, Brian?
	I guess I'll fuck you.
	Like, you know, it could happen.
	Maybe it's a pity orgy, okay?
	Maybe it's a pity orgy fuck, okay?
	So, anyways, look, I'm just saying, by the way, I only like to let down one woman at a time, okay?
	So don't worry.
	I don't want to have an orgy, okay?
	I only disappoint one woman at a time.
	How noble of you.
	So, anyways.
	Huh?
	That's so nice.
	Very considerate.
	I'm a romantic guy.
	So, anyways, okay, here.
	I wanted to come back.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	You want a guy who makes a million a year?
	Yeah.
	You've been listening to this, these girls who make, who want a guy who makes 10.
	One mil, still quite a lot.
	I do.
	I think it's a good reach, but I don't think it's impossible.
	Well, it's not.
	Okay.
	You know.
	Look, it's technically possible.
	Like, it's possible.
	I feel like that one's a little more possible.
	Maybe.
	It's a bit more.
	Especially because I live in LA.
	There's like quite a few millionaires in LA.
	I've actually worked for millionaires and they were married and had kids.
	So, and their wives were relatively close to their age as well.
	So I think, you know, by the time I get married, I think it's reasonable that my husband would make a million dollars.
	You know what?
	One time I met Adriana Lima, and it's because I met her.
	It's possible that, you know, I don't know if I would get with her now.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to see some photos and stuff.
	But, you know, when I was, you know, back when she was younger, I was younger, I met her.
	That must mean it's possible that I could have married her, had children with her.
	But, anyways, I don't understand this whole it's possible thing.
	Like, yeah, it's possible that I, Brian, marry a billionaire heiress who's a virgin and like 10 out of 10.
	Or I don't know if there's any billionaire heiresses that are 10 out of 10.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	It's possible.
	It's not probable, though.
	You know what I mean?
	You're just ambitious.
	The probable is definitely perspective.
	I think it is.
	That is probable.
	Right.
	You can do that.
	Lower your standard.
	But why would you lower your standards?
	If your standards are unrealistic, that's going to translate to you not being able, like either you're not going to.
	It's not unrealistic because the people that work the jobs that are.
	And if it doesn't happen, I'm okay with not getting married.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	Do you think every single woman in the world, assuming the guy's a good guy, would like to date a guy who's a billionaire?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	I think.
	Okay, cool.
	95% of women would definitely date a billionaire.
	I wouldn't.
	I don't think so.
	Okay, good for you.
	I really like that.
	Congrats for women like that.
	Congrats for throwing away like generational wealth for your fucking like 30 generations.
	Okay, good for you.
	It sounds more interesting.
	In any case, that's fine.
	It wouldn't disprove my point that 95% of women would definitely date a billionaire.
	More money, more problems.
	More money, more problems.
	Not if you're a billionaire.
	More money, more problems.
	That's like if you're a fucking Tupac and you're a rapper in the 90s.
	Yeah, more problems.
	Like you're going to get fucking shot up in Vegas.
	Well, would you date a billionaire?
	I'm all for the problems, though.
	Like, bring on the problems.
	I can handle it.
	Oh, like, mostly unknown tech billionaire?
	No problem.
	Like, what problems?
	Yes.
	What problems?
	I understand that they have so much money that they definitely are going to cheat.
	Bro, tech billionaire.
	I don't know about the tech billionaires.
	I mean, would you think it's different for someone that makes 20 mil?
	Like, do you think that's a good thing?
	I think so, yeah.
	I feel like it's less likely than a billionaire.
	Like, once I know billionaires, and when they have so much money, they lose themselves and they start spending their money on things that they shouldn't be doing with a wife.
	Wait, so then why do you, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	If that's the case, why do you, oh, 10 to 20 mil a year.
	Money is cool.
	They still have a lot of people.
	Like, they still have a lot of leftover money.
	Not really, because like, at least like my uncle, he is the one with the islands.
	And he wants islands.
	Like, you want $50,000, okay?
	An island is $50,000.
	Like, now you have no money.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, yes, I want more money so I can buy bigger things.
	No, they don't have the same amount of money, but I'm saying they both have a large amount of leftover play money so they could both get with other women.
	Not really, because like money isn't that much money when you want a $10,000 or $10 million jet or a $5 million house here, $5 million.
	Like, it's really not that much money.
	Please, will you guys come back on the show in 10 years?
	20 years.
	Yes, please.
	We'll do an update.
	We're going to fucking do an update.
	Please.
	I beg.
	So I can inspire them.
	I beg.
	I'll bring my husband.
	Bro, y'all will.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, we'll bring our partners.
	I want to do that.
	Please.
	I am begging.
	Yo, chat.
	Yo, yo.
	Somebody in the chat right now, set like a reminder in your phone for 10 years.
	Email me.
	Be like, yo, Brian, I'm probably not even going to be, I'm not doing this shit in 10 years.
	But fuck it.
	I'll do like a reunion episode.
	Yes.
	We're all going to do it 10 years doing a reunion episode.
	Yes.
	Email me, guys.
	Email me because I'm going to forget about this shit.
	I'm going to forget.
	Email me, be like, Brian, you remember those girls who were going to make 10 mil, that we're going to date guys.
	I never said that, so don't put words into my mouth because I, no, I did not.
	Go back.
	I kept saying I do not have a sugar daddy.
	I have never had a sugar daddy.
	I don't do sex work.
	I invest my money.
	Any type of money that I've worked for has been hard worked.
	And then I invest it and I make more.
	That's what I've been doing for my past five years of my life.
	But anyways, it's fine.
	It's whatever.
	We'll do a reunion episode.
	You guys will all be able to do it.
	No, just don't put words into my mouth.
	You wrote it.
	Lady, on the questionnaire, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for you?
	That doesn't mean that I'm saying that I make money from men.
	I didn't say that.
	Yes, you did.
	I'm just saying don't say that I'm a sex worker or that I make money through men or.
	I'll explain it.
	My claim was, is that you think you're going to make 10 to 20 million a year and that you want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million a year.
	That was my claim.
	That was?
	That was my claim.
	Yeah, that's what I'm contesting.
	The sex worker stuff, I'm not.
	If I misspoke, then I missed it.
	Yeah, you just misspoke.
	Did I?
	I don't think I did.
	I didn't allude to you being a sex worker at all.
	But.
	You said the men, you literally said something about the men that I've talked to or you, and that's why I said don't put words in my mouth.
	No, I'm just going to say you, you, I don't think, my bet is, I don't think that you're going to make $10 to $20 million a year.
	And I don't think you're going to end up with a guy who makes $10 to $20 million a year.
	Nothing to do with sex work.
	Anyways, you want a guy who makes a million a year.
	That's a tall order.
	Have you ever dated a guy who makes a milli year?
	Not yet.
	Whoa, hold on.
	Okay.
	31 ex-stripper.
	For a year.
	I'm like.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if it's in the cards.
	Do you think that you will make a million dollars in one year ever in your life?
	What do you mean?
	Think I will.
	Are you already doing that?
	Guilty as charged.
	Okay, so then I think for what I want in my life, I'm getting into the right.
	I'm getting into the right environment.
	Like, you know, if you're a millionaire right here, then I'm sure you got friends.
	And who knows, maybe I'll be on other podcasts with other millionaires.
	Who knows, you know?
	It's possible.
	It really just depends on what people want for themselves.
	Hold on.
	But like, just because you are on.
	Wait, what?
	I don't really get the logic.
	Logic is that you're here standing.
	Like, you're a man that's made a million dollars.
	She wants somebody that has that type of network.
	Well, wait, I live in Santa Barbara.
	Hold on.
	I live in Santa Barbara.
	I've like I've seen Oprah.
	I've seen all these rich, famous people.
	That doesn't mean that I'm going to end up with a rich famous person.
	Just because you've been in proximity to somebody who's rich, like Kim Kardashian's assistant.
	She's kicking it with Kim Kardashian.
	All the people that work for Kim Kardashian doesn't mean that they're going to marry like a billionaire.
	So you would date somebody that makes less money than you.
	No, no, no.
	Wait, hold on.
	But your point is, hey, Brian, I've met you.
	You've made a million a year.
	Therefore, because I met you, I'm going to marry, I have a chance of marrying a millionaire.
	That's not, that's exactly what I'm saying.
	She's saying that she's met somebody that's met, like the probability of our meeting more is like it's increasing my chances.
	No.
	Yes.
	Just because you meet.
	No, Do you think a woman that's never met a man who made a million dollars has more possible or less possible to marry?
	Just ask the question.
	Let's test out the logic.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Let's test the logic.
	So let's say I'm a guy in my 40s and I'm a cameraman for you know the hmm.
	What's that?
	What are the women who do the what's that?
	Oh my god.
	Fishing?
	No.
	Just the hand motion.
	The coal miner.
	No, the stick and they jump high.
	What's that fucking called?
	A pole vaulting thing?
	A pole vault.
	I love I'm a I'm a man of culture.
	I love these pole vaulting videos.
	These women, very athletic, very fit bodies.
	If I'm a cameraman at the women's pole vaulting events because I'm there and I'm like in their presence, does that mean that because I'm in their presence, this opens up the opportunity to fuck a bunch of hot pole vaulting chicks and they're like they're all 20?
	Totally.
	Yes, totally.
	Yeah, that's kind of how proximity works.
	I watch these YouTube videos.
	You know, just by virtue of me watching pole vaulting videos of these hot Italian female pole vaults.
	Definitely increasing your chances of dating.
	Italians are the best, by the way.
	I'm definitely going to, it's a very high possibility.
	I'm going to fuck like an insanely fit female pole vaulter.
	It's done.
	It's a done deal.
	I'm going to get it.
	By the way, if there's any female pole vaulters watching the show, manifesting in real time.
	Manifest.
	I'm here for that.
	Manifestation.
	You know what?
	Speaking about female professional athletes, I'm actually in favor of illegal immigration, but only for female athletes.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So Eastern European gymnasts, gymnasts, I don't know, the ballerinas are kind of weird.
	Ah, fuck it, whatever.
	Ballerinas, pole vaulters, sprinters.
	You know what?
	We'll just say all female athletes can immigrate here illegally.
	Okay.
	Good for you.
	Yeah.
	I'm in favor of yes.
	I'm sure that's the thing.
	You know what?
	Chat, what do you think?
	Are you guys fine with, you know, Eastern European.
	Let's just, you know, I think we maybe should fast track, even for legal immigration, the, between the, you know, like young, adult, female athletes.
	What do you guys think?
	Okay, good talk.
	Next question.
	Next question.
	Let them come over.
	Just the females, though.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Okay.
	A million, though, really?
	I mean, like the guy makes 500K.
	You know, you kind of look like Mariah Carey.
	Maybe you could be like her.
	Yeah, but can she sing like Mariah Carey?
	You see, can you sing like Mariah Carey?
	Sing the Christmas song.
	Lip sync like her.
	Sing the Christmas song.
	Do it.
	You guys, no, I smoke.
	Like, no.
	I'm not doing that to the fans.
	They don't deserve it.
	Look, I just think y'all could maybe lower, be a bit more realistic.
	I hear you.
	No, I hear you.
	Once you're putting everything, I think I was confusing net worth and like yearly, because I just want somebody that has accumulated 10 million by the time I start.
	I know, but that's still my expectation.
	That is so, because I know that I will have 10 million for myself by the time I'm 40.
	Chat GPT.
	Do you still have the chat GPT tab?
	I think that's the more solid argument for my part.
	Just type in the prompt.
	What percentage of 40-year-olds have a net worth of 10 million?
	40-year-old women.
	No, just men.
	Oh.
	I mean, it could just be that.
	I thought you were saying for herself.
	It doesn't have to be gender, just across the board.
	So I have a question.
	So, what if the guy is on track to make that?
	So, like, we'll take the million hypothetically.
	Really quick.
	Because it's extremely rare.
	Scroll down.
	No, not that much.
	For the age bracket, 40 to 49, the 90th percentile net worth, top 10%, 1.3 mil net worth.
	That's in U.S. households.
	Top 1% of households.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	It's slow.
	It's 1.1%.
	No, that was for all households, though, not 40-year-olds.
	So it's probably like 0.0 something.
	It said for 40-year-olds.
	I thought that's what I read.
	Do you think most 40-year-olds have 10 million?
	No, it says 1.1.
	That's not.
	No, that.
	No, no, no.
	That was for all.
	So what if the guy was on track to make the 1 million?
	You meet him, you know, he's a 10 out of 10.
	And then you guys are discussing things and you're discussing finances, and you find out that he's only making $750K a year.
	Only $750K a year.
	But you know his business, you know his ambitions, you see the vision, and easily he could get that within five to ten years.
	Is he still a green flag, or are you definitely not eligible?
	Okay, yeah.
	Okay, so see, see, Brian, she's sitting there saying, I think you do have to date and get to know somebody really well before you marry them.
	I do agree on that.
	And I also approach marriage as God willing.
	I do want to have kids, but right, only if God decides that that's a plan for me.
	So I'm happy with, you know, whatever I get out of my life.
	I'm super grateful for my journey.
	There you go.
	So see, he could be on the pathway to that.
	He doesn't have to have it sitting in the bank account right then, show her a bank statement.
	I still, look, I think for the majority of women, it will be delusional to want a guy.
	I don't care if he's 70 and that's his net worth.
	Like, that's still most men, majority of men, are not going to have a $10 million net worth.
	Even if it's this, oh, well, he can be on the path to making this much.
	That's like less than 1% of men.
	Then the question it begets is: are you the type of woman that that man wants?
	You can want whatever you want, but where it becomes unrealistic, well, I don't know.
	I'm not sure if I'd grant that, but it becomes unrealistic if you aren't the type of woman who would ever be able to secure that type of man.
	Like, you'll just be single forever then, I guess.
	So, then it's like, okay, do you lower your unreasonable, crazy standards?
	I wouldn't necessarily be single.
	I just wouldn't be married.
	Do you want kids?
	Yes.
	Do you want to get married?
	Yes.
	But only to a guy who makes $1 million a year.
	No.
	I like answered the question, you know, to kind of like you put should.
	So that's how I feel like I should.
	Would I, you know, if there was another guy that was showing me like all the other attributes that I want in future father of my child, you know, I would like I do want generational wealth for my children.
	So, you know, and I'm not able to provide that.
	So I feel like if I do have kids, I would want to be able to provide them that.
	And if I, if I can't, then, you know, I would honestly reconsider having kids.
	Hold on, but generational wealth, I mean, that, look, that's good if you can get it.
	It's not a wrong thing to want, but for that to be your bare minimum is, it's delusional.
	Why?
	It's delusional.
	Why?
	Look, here's what I see in the dating hellscape: is look, what percentage of men make this much money?
	Okay, then we have to, it's just math, right?
	If 20% of women want 1% of men, unless you're, you guys are prepared to leave, like be polygamist, they would have to also want polygamy, they would also want to have you.
	That leaves X amount of women who just like it's purely math.
	If there's a million men that meet your standards and there's 20 million women who want those 1 million men, 19 million of those women ain't gonna get what they want.
	So what I see happening is, obviously, maybe some women will be part of that 1 million that gets one of those 1 million men.
	But it seems like, I don't know, you got to be realistic with how you're going to approach this.
	It just, the math isn't going to math.
	I mean, there's no other way to explain it.
	There's just not enough of these high caliber men, or at least whether they're high caliber or not, that meet your threshold or criteria.
	There's not enough of them to go around.
	I am curious, if you're intending to make a fair amount of money yourself and be very successful to give money to your kids, why would you want to make someone that, or sorry, I can't talk today.
	Why would you want to marry someone who makes even more?
	I don't know, just it strikes me.
	I didn't say even more.
	I think that's the same thing.
	I said the same amount that I'm going to make the same amount.
	Okay, well, hope you do.
	I mean, also, as women make more money, typically that's not going to open up your pool of men.
	Like, for example, a guy who makes 10 mil, a guy who makes 10 million a year, he doesn't want some independent boss babe who's going to be bossing it up and shit.
	Maybe, by the way, I'm not saying that.
	I know, I know.
	Hold on, I know.
	Okay.
	I'm speaking in generalities here.
	Yes, there's going to be some dudes who are like, okay, boss babe it up.
	But most men, once they start making money, your money matters less and less.
	Like if a guy makes 10 mil a year, he doesn't give a fuck.
	I might end with your money.
	It doesn't matter.
	He's going to be looking for, if he wants a more traditional dynamic, you being a boss babe is negative.
	It's a detriment.
	Yeah, so then I probably, honestly, the chances of me ending up with a guy are really low.
	I'm probably going to end up with a female.
	Good for you.
	So like that won't even matter to me because I'm probably going to end up with a woman that's making the same amount of money because we have the same ambitions.
	Okay, I'm not really talking about lesbian relationships here.
	I'm talking about what men want.
	I know what I'm saying, that's like irrelevant to me because I'm probably going to end up with a girl.
	So like it doesn't matter.
	Okay, but your girl, your girl probably isn't going to be making 10 mil either.
	You don't know that.
	I mean, look.
	Yo, old man, Brian.
	What the fuck?
	Thank you for the gifted.
	Did that pop up, Nick?
	Thank you for the gifted 20 man.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm not sure why it didn't go off.
	Sorry about that.
	Thank you for the 20, though.
	Again, it's not even a gender thing.
	You want a guy who has a net worth of 10, 10 mil a year, whatever it is.
	You're just not going to get it.
	I'm sorry, it's like very unlikely that it's going to happen.
	You're not going to meet a woman who makes 10 mil a year.
	You're not going to meet a guy who, and when I say meet, I mean like that's going to be the person you end up with.
	I rebuke that.
	Why don't you rebuke it?
	I rebuke it.
	Why don't here, look.
	Why don't average women want average men?
	I'm not average.
	I'm not average.
	I do.
	Okay, that's great.
	Well, you were aware of that.
	That's great, but we got multiple women here who, no offense to y'all, y'all average women.
	No, we do exception women.
	I don't think really any of the women here are exceptional.
	None of y'all are exceptional women.
	It's exceptional.
	You have to project.
	What is exceptional?
	You also don't know terms as a woman.
	I mean, I've gotten to know you guys a little bit.
	But not really.
	I know that you're like sex worker adjacent.
	You finesse dudes.
	You scam them.
	As you should.
	As you should.
	Yeah, that's low virtue behavior.
	It's not that.
	So you think it's virtuous to scam men?
	I'm capitalizing off of them being weirdos.
	Hold on.
	So just curious, what's the threshold for what you can do to a weirdo?
	Can you murder them?
	Why would I murder anyone?
	Well, I'm just curious.
	So because somebody is weird, like let's say they're autistic or whatever, should we scam like autistic people?
	Okay, when I say finesse, hold on, why not though?
	Okay, I'm using weird and finessed in a bringing autism into this.
	It's not being, I'm not being like literal.
	I'm using like an expression that we use.
	Like, I don't know if you ever heard it, but like when I say weird, I don't actually mean weird.
	I mean like a pervert.
	And this man, this older man.
	Two wrongs don't make a right.
	Two wrongs don't make a right.
	That's a win-win.
	It's a win-win.
	Two wrongs do not make a right.
	So it would be wrong of me to romance scam a perverted old woman.
	That would be wrong just inherently.
	It doesn't matter if she's this perverted 60-year-old woman.
	I don't know.
	It would be wrong for me to romance scam her.
	It's not.
	It is wrong for me to think this woman that I'm in love with her.
	No.
	Yes, that's wrong.
	I think I'm in love with them.
	These men literally just think I'm attracted to you.
	You say you mislead these men into thinking they have a chance with you, whether it's about whatever.
	It would be wrong for me to mislead an older, rich woman into letting her think that she, whatever.
	It's not, I'm not misleading her that I love her, but I'm saying, oh, yeah, we can be together.
	We can date just so I can finesse money from her.
	That's wrong.
	I don't think so, because it's a win-win.
	Explain to me why it's morally justified.
	She wants to give you the money.
	It makes her feel good.
	Under the money.
	Hold on.
	Under the.
	But it's fraud.
	Under the idea that we're in a, that I have a genuine interest in dating her.
	No, it's more of like, okay, I want you to come over and hang out with me.
	I'm going to give you $10,000 to come hang out with me.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Did you or did you not say that you lied to these men?
	Sometimes.
	You lie to them.
	Yeah.
	You give them the building.
	What was the term?
	Fantasy.
	You build the fantasy.
	You build the dream.
	I mean, so for example, and you think it's fine, right?
	Do you think it's fine that men lie to women about their relationship intentions to get sex?
	Um, yes.
	Wait, hold on.
	So a girl wants to.
	How is that a win-win for anybody?
	Wait, wait, so is it yes, it's wrong or yes, it's okay?
	It's wrong.
	For a guy to be like, hey, babe, I want to date you.
	And then once he gets sex, to dip.
	Is that wrong or is that?
	I mean, it's not cool.
	But it's wrong, right?
	I mean.
	I wouldn't say it's necessarily like wrong because the woman didn't need to sleep with him in the first place.
	And you probably should get to know him more.
	And like, she got to know him for two months and he was playing the game.
	He was just, he was just wanting to get some pussy.
	It's not really cool to do to someone.
	Well, so I think that that's wrong.
	I don't think you should mislead somebody about yourself.
	But it's not a win-win for anybody, is what I'm saying.
	It's a win-win for the older men with the younger girl.
	Like you, they're paying to hang out with a younger girl because normally a younger girl is not going to want to hang out with him.
	You're misleading them.
	I'm not here to hit him.
	And that's where it's morally objectionable.
	No, they know what it is.
	They know what it is.
	Then why would you need to lie to them?
	Because I don't think they're attractive.
	You know.
	They don't want me to tell them you are so ugly and old.
	They don't want me to tell you.
	You don't have to insult them, but you know that by misleading them into believe that they have a genuine chance with you, they're going to spend more money on you.
	You admitted them.
	I didn't tell them in the beginning that I'm not going to fall in love with you and this is not going to be that.
	But then, but you also admitted to lying to them.
	Yeah.
	You lied to them.
	I get what I want.
	But it's not, I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm going to like be in love with you and we're going to get married.
	Like I'm not lying and saying that.
	Well, they're suckers for believing it, but it's still wrong.
	It's a win-win for everyone.
	They've even told me this is a win-win.
	Look.
	Oh, boy.
	All right.
	I think it's a win-win for everyone.
	It just seems a little questionable, I guess.
	But how did we get on this, though?
	What were we talking about just before this?
	Like, all the money or whatever?
	These women wanting a bunch of money.
	No men with money.
	I forgot.
	Talking about how many men actually fit within that realm of money.
	Yeah.
	And then meeting them and then being the wife material.
	Oh, the wife material stuff.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, we've lingered on the money thing for quite a while now.
	Y'all crazy.
	Y'all average women don't want to deal with average men.
	And I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's wild.
	Okay, here we have.
	Pull that super chat.
	I'm gonna have Felicity read it.
	Uh, well, we'll uh pull it in a moment.
	Wait, hold on, let me do this one.
	Yo, old man Brian, thank you.
	There we go.
	Thank you for the gift of 20 men.
	Go ahead.
	Explain sexists, bad, racist, bad, misogynist, bad, grapest bad.
	But feminist good, sus also bass, hunter, doda, warcraft song.
	But all those things are bad except for feminism.
	So I don't understand.
	That's like that.
	Racism is bad.
	That does bring us back to the conversation, the earlier conversation.
	When I was describing the definitions of feminism and I gave my charitable, excuse me, charitable definition, I said it's women's advocacy, and then I gave my true definition, which is women's advocacy, and then baked in anti-male rhetoric, misandery, men hatred, etc.
	Yeah, you're like, I think both of you were like, well, who hurt you, Brian?
	Hold on.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me just finish.
	You're like, who hurt you?
	And then you said something in essence.
	Why do you care so much about anti-male rhetoric?
	I'm trying to.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you think anti-female rhetoric is good or bad?
	I think it's bad.
	Okay, so is anti-male rhetoric bad?
	I didn't give you my definition.
	Answer my question.
	I think it's bad as well.
	I'm not a man hater.
	I've never said anything about hating men or being like, I think I'm a feminist because I want to be equal to a man.
	Because in my society, I have never been equal to a man.
	You are equal.
	No, men do not see us as like equal figures.
	Do you see men as equal?
	Do you think women?
	Yes.
	Do you think women are superior to men?
	No.
	I think we're, yes, I think we're equal.
	That's why when you were saying your definition, I'm like, what are you talking about?
	That's not my definition of feminism.
	And you never asked me what my definition was.
	You just assumed.
	I just said it that we are.
	I was giving you my definition.
	Okay, yeah, but you just think that that's what, like, all women, this is what feminism is to everybody.
	No, because I'm literally telling you that I am not a man hater.
	I do not hate men.
	I don't, I, I think I'm a feminism because because I want to be equal to a man, that's what feminism is.
	It's like speaking up for women, womanhood, looking out for women.
	That's feminism.
	Like standing up for and being a voice.
	Do you think, do you believe that there's a patriarchy?
	Do we have a patriarchal structure?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	And do we need to dismantle the patriarchy?
	I think it's getting better.
	I think there are some systemic things still left over.
	When I talk about feminism, I'm critical of patriarchy.
	It isn't necessarily individual men because I know a lot of good men in my life that I love and care about.
	But I do think sometimes there's bigger.
	I think it's getting better though, especially here in the U.S.
	I actually found a statistic that talked about men and women's pay gap.
	And actually, for it's, I think, 80% right now for men and women in the U.S., but for 24 to, I believe, or no, it was.
	Let me look at this.
	I did look it up, but either way, there's an the young for younger people, it's even smaller.
	It's 95%.
	So it's getting better.
	Hold on, the pay gap is very new, very nuanced.
	There's the controlled pay gap, the uncontrolled pay gap.
	When you address or when you factor in hours worked, type of profession, geography, willingness to work overtime, willingness to work, hazard pay, willingness to relocate.
	These are almost all things that there's a gap for in terms of men.
	Men work more hours.
	Men are more likely to work overtime.
	Men work more dangerous jobs.
	When men go into industries that pay more.
	So, if you actually control, there is no wage gap.
	There are a lot of women that work a lot of long hours jobs.
	Yeah.
	I mean, my job, I work probably about 60 to 70 hours a week on a bad week.
	And then nurses work a fair amount of hours.
	Okay, so are you saying that I'm lying about the statistics?
	So the statistic, this isn't fake, this isn't up for dispute.
	What website did you get yours from?
	Because I got my work.
	Hold on.
	Here's the two stats I'm going to debate you on.
	Men work more hours than women, and men work more overtime than women.
	Do you dispute these two facts?
	I do.
	I think it depends on the profession.
	No, Hold on.
	Yes, I agree.
	There is one individual woman who we can find.
	Oh my God, I can't believe I have to get into the weeds like this.
	There's one individual woman I can find in the United States that works more than one individual man that I can find in the United States.
	This, oh my God, we're talking about generalities here.
	Generally speaking, men work more than women.
	They work longer hours.
	This is not up for dispute.
	I think it's the Bureau of Labor Statistics releases robust information on this.
	Yes, is there a woman out there who works more than some dude?
	Yes.
	But if we're looking across the board, on average, men work more hours than women.
	Once again, I think it's down to the profession.
	Across all professions.
	There's not one.
	I don't even understand that.
	Across all professions, men work more hours.
	Even for teaching, because that's majority women.
	And you asked me if they weren't.
	Even if it was true, even if it was true.
	A lot of teachers do a lot of stuff outside the classroom.
	Even if it was true that if we're doing a per capita assessment, because there's more women who are teachers, if we were looking at the average of men versus women in this regard, who knows?
	Even if we granted it, that wouldn't diminish any of the other industries where men overwhelmingly like, okay, fine.
	Let's say that when it comes to teachers, in that particular field, women work more than the men do.
	Okay, well, all the other fields, men also work more hours.
	That would outweigh and dwarf the teacher contribution to this component.
	Are you just going to fake news this and be like, no, women work more hours than men?
	Again, I think it depends on the type of job.
	So, what?
	Okay, be specific then.
	Okay, so like when I said teaching, it's because the majority of teachers are women.
	So, okay, but then you would have to do like a per capita assessment.
	So, are you saying that, like, if 90% of teachers are women and 10% are men, that's probably not the numbers.
	I'm just pulling it out.
	You're saying, well, we have to add up all the extra.
	Well, hold on.
	I'm just saying.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	That doesn't even make sense.
	I'm bringing up professions that work a lot of hours.
	You think only men only work in jobs that work a lot of hours.
	But there are some professions that women are more women-dominated that also work a lot of hours.
	I suppose it's conceivable in some sector that in some specific sector that women work more hours than men on average.
	It's possible.
	I'm not even sure if that's the case because across the board, for the average to actually be true, you would suspect what's most likely that across all sectors, men work more hours than women.
	Even if your point was true, do you think it defeats my point?
	Not necessarily.
	Okay, so are you, are we arguing that women work more than men?
	No, but I also don't think that men always work more than women.
	That wouldn't disprove the central argument.
	I've already granted you that, yes, it's possible that there are one, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand women out there that do work more hours than some men.
	But I'm trying, I don't even know how to explain this to make it coherent to you.
	On average, men work more hours than women.
	Does that make sense?
	Yes.
	But there's also another nuance to it, which is if women aren't working as more hours, there's a lot of women who have to leave work early or not work as many hours to take care of kids.
	So.
	Okay.
	Let those contribute to that, especially if you're working a career, you stop your career to have a kid, then you go back later, you're not going to be making as much as you would if you just never left your job.
	Well, that's why a company will hire a man over a woman.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Exactly.
	Babies and kids.
	Yeah, I've really had talks with women about this that haven't got job positions where they're way more qualified than men, but a lot of things are like associated with.
	I'm just curious, though.
	Like, let's say your business is brutal and cutthroat.
	Let's say you're a small business and it's your money on the line.
	Your money.
	You run the business.
	Do you run the business?
	Do you own the business?
	No, you work for some reason, right?
	So it's like these small businesses, oftentimes the owners are, look, sometimes the owners can reap quite substantially in terms of their income.
	But a lot of times they're fucking hustling.
	You know, they're trying to do everything they can to stay afloat.
	And do you think like, you know, it's a good business move to hire a woman who's like going to get pregnant in three months?
	Like, think about it from your perspective as a business owner.
	Well, I know you're not a business owner, but if you were a business owner and you're like, shit, okay, fuck.
	I got to fill this position.
	And I don't want to have to spend three months having to train somebody new.
	And like, otherwise, I go out of business and my family fucking starves.
	Do you think it's a good business move?
	Like, I know there's a bunch of legal protections in the world.
	I was about to say it gets to be a gray area with the American with Disabilities Act.
	Well, hold on.
	Pregnancy is not a disability.
	It's considered a disability.
	I mean, I think someone's sitting when going on leave, you're going, you, it's.
	Yes, there's a maternity leave, but it's not under.
	But like, pragmatically speaking, if you're a business owner, you know, maybe these major corporations have leeway to like, you know, whatever, hire a pregnant woman.
	They've got 40,000 employees.
	Who gives a fuck?
	You've got a business with 10, 20 employees, and you're fucking.
	I think it depends on the type of business and also your employee.
	Because if they're a good employee, and you'll know they'll come back, I think they will.
	I think, granted, I don't want to.
	I don't want children biologically.
	But if I got pregnant, people recognize me at my job and they come to trust me.
	And my boss likes me as an employee.
	Think he'd want to hire me back because I'll stay put and I'm consistent.
	Right.
	Look, I'm not saying that it's always going to manifest itself that companies don't want to hire women, but I'm just looking at it pragmatically.
	It's like, I don't know, if you can, if you have a magic eight ball and you can tell the future or whatever, and it's like, okay, I can hire this person who I'm going to have to spend all this, all these resources and money training them, and then within three months, they're going to be leave the job.
	And then I'm like, kind of fucked.
	Like, wouldn't it almost make sense for a business to prioritize hiring somebody where that's not a risk?
	I guess that is the problem.
	And that's why, for example, me, though it's not one of the many reasons, I won't have a child biologically because I don't want to not get behind in my career.
	And I know I'd much rather be a funeral director and balmer than a mother.
	But even then, even granting the situation where companies might have hesitation of hiring women, we clearly don't see it.
	Women are not out destitute in the streets, incapable of ever securing a job.
	Women completely entirely participate in the labor force and the workforce.
	Corporations are more than happy to hire women.
	This idea that there's rampant sexism and women aren't getting hired because maybe they'll get pregnant is just completely ludicrous.
	Women are absolutely getting hired.
	There's a bunch of affirmative action.
	Corporations are predominated by, you know, their HR departments, predominated by women.
	Women are hiring mostly women.
	Women have bias towards women.
	So I don't know.
	It's kind of ridiculous.
	However, I don't know.
	Look, oh man, we're getting in the weeds here.
	The fucking wage gap.
	I wanted to get back to this original claim, which was when I said, when I was like, gave you the definition of feminism, you had an issue with me saying that anti-male rhetoric and misandery is bad.
	Why?
	I don't have an issue with that being.
	You did.
	Both of you did.
	Because when I brought it up, you're like, who heard that?
	Why do you care?
	I actually am curious why you feel the way you do.
	I'm always interested in people who don't, I don't necessarily agree with why, because I like to explain why I feel the way I do.
	What do you disagree with?
	Like, what's there to disagree with about being against anti-male rhetoric?
	What's there to disagree on?
	I'm not disagreeing with you on that.
	But like I said before in my criticism when I initially sent you that first message, sometimes there just seems to be some very, and it actually took me a while to remember the specific thing from the episode, but there seems to be kind of some anti-feminist attitude.
	What would be wrong with that?
	Like bowing.
	Like you're asking questions about bowing.
	Like, I don't even know what hypothetical situation I'd be in.
	It just seemed like it was a weird humiliation thing.
	It's not humiliation at all.
	It's a demonstration.
	It's a temperature check for if a woman can actually be submissive.
	And I would argue that the demands that women place on men are orders of magnitude greater than simply a benign, effortless, any almost unless she's severely disabled.
	Any woman can do a bow.
	So this idea that it's a big ask when women want men to pay for first dates, when women want men to be protectors, when women want men to open car doors, when women want men to walk, observe the sidewalk rule,
	which would seem to suggest that the woman wants the man to basically be a meat shield for her in the event that a car comes barreling down the street and fucking, you know, he can push her out of the way and he can fucking die on a first date when she's got 10 sugar daddies and she's fucking three other dudes and you want some dude, some fucking sucker to die for you on a first date, I'm good.
	I'm good.
	The bow is completely reasonable.
	Completely reasonable.
	I don't think that, you know, that is reasonable.
	And what's re what's the bow?
	Yeah, and not only that.
	Do you think it's unreasonable for women to expect men to pay on first dates?
	I do.
	I guess you didn't circle that, but you do acknowledge, though, that like I want to say the majority of women want men to pay on first dates, even liberal women.
	I do think that's rather hypocritical, and I don't expect to be have to be paid for on the first date.
	The world isn't built of women like you.
	So I'm operating on generalities here.
	I think in general, women have an expectation that men should pay on first dates, right?
	I think maybe it's definitely not all women, but I want to say it's a majority.
	That would mean 51% or more.
	I think that's completely.
	I don't know if there's statistics on that.
	I think it's, it's very realistic probability if men should pay on first aids, that means, okay, they have to, how do they pay for it?
	Well, they have to work.
	So when a girl says a man should pay on the first date, if that first date is $100 to pay for the first date and he makes $20 an hour, the man has to work five hours to take a woman on a date.
	A bow is that.
	No one's expecting $100 on the first date.
	Hold on.
	I'm fine with coffee.
	If I bring a girl to fucking Chili's and we get an appetizer, we get drinks, we get a main course, and we get a dessert.
	And then the tip, I'm going to spend $100 at Chili's.
	That's a lot of fun.
	If you can't afford to have a woman, then maybe you should get your money up.
	But maybe, look, there are places you can go that are going to be less than $100.
	I don't think it's out of, like, it's some insane spend in 2025 for a guy to spend $100 in total on a date.
	I think it's to each their own.
	And some girls here are going to say only $100.
	No, to each their own.
	I disagree.
	If you can only afford to pay for the Honda because you have Honda money, then don't go for the Mercedes because you're literally going to get in debt.
	shouldn't that apply to the women?
	Like if you're, if you're a Ford Pinto, shouldn't you just not want a guy who makes $10 million a year?
	Exactly.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's why I said that I'm going to have that money.
	But are you the Lamborghini?
	Are you the Ferrari?
	Are you?
	Wait, hold on.
	Let's do this.
	McLaren.
	I don't know.
	Paserati.
	You're more like Porsche.
	Porsche is cool.
	Okay, Ferrari, Lamborghini.
	Porsche.
	Or you know what?
	Carrera GT.
	Is that even a fucking car?
	That's one of the Camara or Carrera?
	Carrera.
	Okay, well, I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Wait, hold on, let's, hold on.
	I'm just.
	I'm not going to let you guys keep escaping, though.
	When I gave my definition of feminism and I said my true definition of feminism is women's advocacy and then baked in anti-male rhetoric, misandery, you guys were like, well, why do you care, Brian?
	Well, because it sounded like you were talking from some place of like, like, so like so hatred.
	Like, you were getting, you're getting red.
	Like, I'm like, oh, he's, he's hot.
	Like, this is a topic that really gets to him.
	Oh.
	So I wanted to know why.
	Like, what?
	I don't know.
	If you hear somebody say a racist slur, would that get to you?
	Well, I guess I can't speak for...
	Wait, what's that?
	They don't deserve the racist slur.
	And men don't deserve bigotry.
	I'm not, but like, if it, if the women are entitled to their opinions, if women think these things of men, like, nobody's saying anything about them.
	So why are you?
	Wait, Let's explore that.
	These are our opinions.
	I love it.
	Women are entitled to their opinions.
	And you are too.
	Well, hold on.
	What opinions are we talking about?
	So, for example, is it a woman's opinion that she could say men are trash?
	Is she entitled to that opinion?
	I think anybody's entitled to anything.
	Do you think men are trash?
	I don't.
	Do you think men are trash?
	Really?
	I thought, wait, I thought the majority of men are creepy.
	The majority of them are trash, but there's like a good selective group.
	He's upset because you guys are making generalizations.
	He's not a murderer, a pedophile, any of that, but yet he's still treated differently because of people, I guess, like you that assume automatically that the general population of men.
	And I never argue that.
	You said that she said that I didn't.
	I don't think all men are trash.
	I never, that was never argued.
	Well, I don't even, hold on.
	You met me, so you don't think I'm weird.
	You probably do think I'm weird, but you don't want to say it, whatever.
	That's fine.
	I'm still going to come to the defense of the broad population of just normal men who also get lumped into this, like this bigotry and bias against them.
	So, whether your determination of me is kind of irrelevant here, I'm broadly against anti-male rhetoric and misandry.
	So, why it matters to me, you say, Well, if I heard something racist, you would be, or you heard something racist, you'd be against it.
	I'm if I hear something sexist against men, I'm against it.
	Yeah, okay, yes, I'm in.
	And it hurts your feelings.
	I get it.
	Oh, hold on.
	I don't know if it hurts, I don't know if hurting my feelings because that's what is that you're doing it in sort of this mocking way.
	No, I'm look at the poor babies.
	I am not afraid of that.
	No, that's not like that.
	So, I can't speak for anyone else, but when I try to talk to someone I disagree with, I try to understand why they feel a certain way.
	And so, the reasons, because I grew up in Indiana, I've always lived in Indiana and I grew up in a rural farming community.
	You know, it's not like yas feminist girl boss area, it never was.
	But the reason I started getting into feminism and learning about it, and it was long before college, before someone says, Oh, like college indoctrinated you, was because I had some people treat me unfairly when I was growing up because I was a woman.
	And then listening to the stories of like my mother and grandmother and some of the other women in my life, hearing them, it made me passionate because I just want a better world for well, everyone.
	But I just some of the things that people I've loved face, I just don't want them to have to go through that again or any future people.
	Okay, totally fair.
	And so, I just wanted to know maybe if someone had been treated you unfairly for who you are.
	I wondered if that's what motivated you.
	No, no, no, no, it has nothing to do with like specific like feminists who have treated me poorly.
	I am a person who has faculties of logic and reason and rationality, and therefore I can look at what feminism is and the ideology.
	And there's, trust me, there's plenty of subject matter there for that that warrants criticism.
	There's plenty in the feminist movement, in the ideology itself baked in that warrants criticism.
	And I agree.
	Yeah, I agree too.
	Well, okay, but when I gave you my definition of what feminist is.
	I said I didn't agree.
	That's not my definition.
	It's not just that.
	When I said that the feminist movement is anti-male, anti-male rhetoric, misandrist, et cetera, et cetera, you're well, who hurts you, Brian?
	Because I don't agree to that.
	Because that's not my definition of feminism.
	I'm like, who the whole like?
	Why is this like the thought of that?
	I love it.
	That's because that's what I wanted to get into.
	The reason I was asking you before about if you believe in the patriarchy, which you do, right?
	You believe in the patriarchy.
	That's like the core tenant of feminism.
	That in and of itself bakes in and perpetuates this idea.
	Well, do you think women are oppressed?
	Yes, but I think they can be.
	I think they can be.
	Are they broadly oppressed generally?
	More than men.
	What's that?
	More than men.
	More than men.
	No, but they are oppressed.
	Are they oppressed?
	I think they can be.
	I don't think all women are oppressed.
	What about just in the United States?
	Let's talk about the U.S. Are women oppressed?
	In some ways, but I think for the most part, no.
	Wait, what's that?
	I think our whole society is oppressed.
	No, I agree with that.
	So I think it's like men and women and different ways.
	Yeah, there's different ways, but I think it's the same, honestly.
	I think men and women are equally oppressed.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, there is an argument to be made that really there would be like a oppression based on class, which would transcend race.
	It transcends sex.
	It transcends all this stuff.
	But the and this isn't necessarily that I'm forwarding.
	It's not, but people would argue that all this racism shit, all this, the gender war, race war stuff, it's very conveniently distracting to distract us from the actually the ultimate form of warfare that's going on, which would be related to class.
	Some people would forward that argument.
	I don't know if I would buy necessarily buy into it, but they're very, if it is true, the obscenely wealthy are very happy to keep us all distracted and fighting amongst each other by focusing on race and blah, blah, blah.
	So there can never be class solidarity because the men are fighting the women, the women are fighting the men, the whites are fighting the blacks, the blacks are all this stuff.
	Very distracted by this sort of shit that never enables a sort of movement to actually get real shit done.
	But I digress.
	The patriarchy.
	Okay.
	Do you think men are oppressors?
	In some ways, once again, I think it's situational.
	Well, that's not helpful, though.
	In some ways, they're how so.
	Well, I believe there are men, and there are women too, that kind of will promote sexist ideas or just systemic sexism.
	And sometimes I don't think people realize it.
	Sometimes they do.
	And I do think women are as capable of doing that as men.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, I would just say, though, if you buy into this idea of patriarchy, which I don't think is a very nuanced way of looking at the infinitely complex way that societies are structured, to just say, men bad, women, women oppressed, men oppressor.
	That's never complicated.
	Society is structured in a very complicated way to just put all the blame on men is kind of like ridiculous.
	That is the, I mean, the patriarchy theory, it's this apex fallacy also that we were talking about before, where very, very small proportion of people are in power, even if it is the case that that small, small, small proportion of people is men.
	How could you then hold four billion people like this sort of collective guilt?
	Like, oh, well, these 10 men at the top have created the rules in society or whatever bullshit.
	Therefore, all men bad.
	Majority of men bad.
	Like, it's a really weird way to look at society.
	From my perspective, I actually think if we're looking at negative life outcomes, I think while it is true that you have a really small proportion of men who have that corner office, who are the CEO, who are in the executive positions, who do have more power politically speaking, although, of course, I would just argue that women are the major, actually, women are more represented in the voter base.
	So women themselves are voting the men in.
	So it's like.
	That's what I talk about internalized sexism.
	Well, I don't know about that, but women do have a say as it relates to politics.
	You literally vote these men in.
	But this is a really small proportion of men.
	What proportion of men have political power?
	Really, really small proportion of men.
	What proportion of men are CEOs or high-powered executives?
	Really, really small proportion of men.
	Average man, the average man has no more say, no more power than their female counterparts, which is like 99%, 99% of people, 99% of men have no more say than do women.
	It's just true.
	And I would then point to, and if we're looking at the negative life outcomes, the majority of negative life outcomes are disproportionately represented by men.
	Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime.
	Men are more likely to be murdered.
	Men are more likely to be incarcerated.
	Men are more likely to be unalived by police.
	Men are more likely, all these things.
	Men are more likely to be homes.
	But see, you got to be careful with that because then it opens up this door to generalization because people will make this argument about, well, hold on.
	It's really unblack men are more likely to be in prison.
	That's due to racism, right?
	You'll say that, right?
	But then when it comes to men being more likely to go to prison, you'll say, well, that's their choice.
	They make that choice.
	If you're going to say that the criminal element in men is due to them being men, because you're citing to, well, there's more men in prison, you got to be careful because then it opens the door to racism, which would say that there's more black people in prison because of some innate characteristic of black people, which I reject to be clear.
	I don't think it's the same at all.
	Well, you can draw these similar comparisons.
	If you're saying, I'm looking at crime statistics and more men commit these crimes, men bad, then if it's like, well, hold on, more black people commit these crimes than white people, it opens the door.
	If you allow for, if you open the door to men bad because they commit more crimes, you then open the door to this racial group bad because they commit more crimes.
	I reject both.
	I don't know.
	I reject both.
	Now, I agree with you on that.
	Once again, that's why I'm all about nuance over really big generalizations.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
	I see the correlation.
	The same.
	I don't see relevance.
	But I've never said any of those statements.
	I'm like, I'm still like, that has nothing to do with my views of feminism.
	Like, I don't think men bad.
	So, yeah.
	I just think it's more likely.
	But as it relates to patriarchy, even granting that the vast majority of the people at the top are men, we also have to say that the vast majority of the people at the bottom are men.
	That's the homelessness, men who commit suicide, victims of war, all this stuff.
	Prisoners, et cetera, et cetera.
	But who started the war?
	Men.
	Who sent them to war?
	Men.
	Do you think a 19-year-old boy in Kentucky had anything to do in World War II, World War I, with being sent to war?
	Yes.
	People who are sending them to war are men.
	Yeah, but what does that, how does that change like the 19th century?
	People are doing him dirty political leaders.
	Exactly.
	Once again, that's why I like to call them our men.
	But that's not fair to generalize all men just because the political leaders need to be men.
	But like, I'm literally looking at the entire world.
	There's no women out here saying, let's go to war.
	Does your empathy have a gender filter?
	Honestly, no.
	But I'm confused.
	Then why bring up this idea that, well, it's terrible that, you know, 19-year-old boys who don't want to go to war get sent to war and get die, you know, get killed.
	That was horrible.
	Right, but why the need to say, but?
	Why the need to say, well, it's men, it's the men who send them to war.
	why because it's literally it's a red herring though A butterfly effect.
	What does that have to do with that, though?
	What does that 19-year-old have to do with that testor sent him and his other person?
	I'm saying men are like making other men victims of men.
	Hold on, but the perpetrator, by the way, mind you, a war can sometimes be a defensive war.
	So maybe the leaders of the nation who happen to be men are like, well, shit, we're getting invaded.
	Sorry, guy.
	Like, we don't want to be doing this, but we have to.
	We've seen them.
	Another country ran by a man.
	Not always the case.
	I have a couple things on this.
	Usually the case.
	Well, you know, look, historically, if we look at queens, for example, we look at female monarchs.
	We actually find that queens were much more likely to wage war than kings.
	So also this idea that if, sure, even today, women are heads of state.
	Yes, absolutely.
	They would be engaged in war.
	It would absolutely happen.
	This idea that if women were all world leaders, everything would be peaceful.
	I don't know about you guys.
	I've seen women fucking brutal towards each other.
	Women can be fucking brutal towards each other.
	Women can be violent towards each other.
	This idea that women are completely peaceable people is ridiculous.
	No one said that.
	No one said that.
	Yeah, but this idea that, like, oh, well, if we, I'm not, I'm not making the case that women would be more prone to war, although there is some historical precedent for when women did have power, they were actually more likely to wage war.
	Well, not the same with men.
	Yes, and look at the world today.
	Well, yeah, there's more men in power, so we would, it would proceed that, yes, like, but if you do like a per capita assessment, per capita, when women were monarchs, they were more likely to go to war.
	When women were queens, leaders, empresses, whatever.
	Yes.
	How many?
	I don't know the statistics.
	Yeah, Google the queens more likely to go to war than men.
	There has been historical studies done on this specific thing.
	But I guess my question to you is when I bring up male disadvantage and you say, well, who set that system up?
	Does that imply that men deserve the disadvantage?
	No.
	Do men deserve the disadvantage?
	No.
	I never said that to begin with in this whole podcast.
	Like, I'm not a man-hater.
	I'm just looking at the majority.
	The majority of all of these things are men.
	Like, it just is what it is.
	But you're shifting the discussion away from the actual concern about male disadvantage to either current day or historical blame towards men.
	So it's like, and it's just this red herring.
	It's like, okay, well, who, so?
	You're saying men collectively are to blame, which isn't true.
	It's not true.
	It's a small portion of men in power who make these decisions.
	This is why I like the concept of intersectionality because there's a lot more layers.
	Said, yeah, someone who's privileged in one thing may not be privileged in something else.
	And I do think for everyone, no matter whatever system's oppressing them, we should try to dismantle that.
	Also, if men like built this system, then clearly, then clearly, even if it's true, wouldn't it be a system that hates its own architects?
	It does.
	Right, but so this idea that patriarchy was built for the benefit of men, even if we grant this sort of this is how society is structured.
	I think kind of going the intersectionality thing again.
	So the men oppressing the other men, wealthy men, I think kind of, especially here in the U.S., kind of lead men that they're oppressing with a carrot on the string by saying, well, if you do this and this and this and you act this way, you'll be like me one day and you'll have all the money and power you want.
	But they never do.
	It just is always out of their grasp.
	And that's how they keep people under their thumb.
	I guess when I point out how men are disadvantaged or suffering, and you guys say, well, who set that system up?
	It sounds a lot like the suffering is invalid if the wrong people experience it.
	That's not true.
	I mean, that's kind of what she's saying.
	That's how I'm interpreting it.
	I don't have to agree with that.
	Okay.
	But I don't understand.
	So if a group historically set up a system, does that mean that individual members today can't point out how it's harmful?
	You can.
	You can.
	Like, what about, could we say the same about women criticizing systems built by women?
	Yes.
	I mean, the feminism movement has criticisms within itself frequently.
	And there's like any group of people, no matter what it is, there's splinters because people have gotten unhappy about something and they've split off and done their own thing.
	That's just people.
	Okay.
	But like, for example, there are tribes in Africa that do FGM, female genital mutilation.
	And what they've actually found is that this is a cultural artifact.
	I don't know if that's the right wording.
	It's a cultural practice that is, it's not upheld by the men.
	The female genital mutilation is actually upheld by the women in these societies.
	And I don't know if it's because they're like, I suffered, so you have to suffer too.
	I think that that's oftentimes a thing that we see all the time.
	But I wouldn't, like, if a woman had her genitals mutilated, I wouldn't then say, well, hold on.
	It's the women in your culture who are allowing this practice to continue.
	I'd be like, no, this is terrible.
	But it is, but that is a fact, though.
	It is a woman in the culture.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you can't internalize.
	That's the fact.
	It's not right.
	But it is the women that are oppressing this.
	Right, but I wouldn't.
	That's the fact.
	It's the fact.
	My go-to wouldn't be, wow, this bad thing is happening to women.
	But who should we, you know, should we blame the women and like try to diminish the impact of victimization?
	I think we should just be like, wow, that's really terrible.
	We should do away with that.
	You know what I mean?
	Felicity, can you read this for me?
	W equals F D. Wait, I can't even read that.
	Text is the amount of work, F is the vector of force, D is the magnitude of displacement, O is the angle between the vector of force and the vector of displacement.
	Bro, that's a couple grade levels above what's going on at this table right now.
	You got to dumb that shit down a little bit.
	Thank you, Christopher, for the message, man.
	I do appreciate it.
	What was I going to say?
	Oh, let's pull up the super chat.
	We already did the first.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Didn't we read the Vincent?
	The one from Vincent?
	Hold on.
	Oh, what the heck?
	Pull up Pelagic.
	Chair one is just another below-average pro.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	What does pro mean?
	Probably prostitute.
	Prostitute.
	Professional.
	Prostitute.
	When did I say that?
	That's what he's saying.
	I mean, you didn't say that.
	Oh, when did I say that?
	You didn't say that.
	So next.
	So you're not a prostitute.
	Next question.
	Good times.
	Okay, we need to get into some other stuff here.
	I need to get up momentarily.
	Felicity, take it away.
	Height.
	Okay.
	How tall are you, and what is the minimum height of a man you would date?
	Starting with you?
	I'm 5'6.
	And I just would like them to be taller than me, I guess.
	So 5'7?
	Yeah.
	I mean, would I be more attracted to someone who's taller?
	Yes.
	But I'm not gonna not talk to someone because they're like not that height.
	But I would prefer for them to be at least a little taller than me because then it's just kind of awkward and I just feel like you know, big mama to them.
	I just don't want to feel like that.
	The multi-millionaire 20 million plus year, he can be 5'7?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No preference.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'5.
	And then my fiancé is the tallest guy I've dated at 5'10.
	But I've dated guys that were my height or slightly shorter.
	I mean, I even think Peter Dinklage is kind of cute.
	So I have, I've, it really doesn't matter.
	It's height doesn't determine the character.
	Okay, what about you?
	Six foot.
	That's just what how much did you want from a husband again a year?
	Well, if I had your answer, yeah, I wanted to say, I don't know a year.
	I just want their net worth to accumulate to 10 million.
	So six 10 mil net worth.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I've only dated guys that are that tall.
	That's like, that's my reality.
	How tall are you again?
	I'm sorry.
	5'2.
	Girl!
	Ma'am, I'm 5'6 ⁇ .
	5'4.
	Not even 5'10?
	No.
	I just, I just am attracted to tall men.
	I've always been attracted to tall men, and tall men like me too, so it works out.
	Okay.
	This is, I just do what I like.
	That's fine.
	I mean, I don't know how many men are over or six foot plus.
	And that's why I said that.
	I mean, I like girls too.
	Oh, the girl can be six foot?
	No, no, the girl can be short.
	The girl could be she could be short.
	Like, how short?
	Um, like my height.
	Shorter?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	How about you?
	I'm 5'3, almost 5'4.
	At least she's a little bit taller than me.
	5'5?
	Yeah, it'll work.
	I mean, okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'3.
	I would say like 5'7, so I can wear heels.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'7.
	I did date two guys that were 5'7.
	It wasn't always like the best thing, but that's not what matters to me most.
	So what's the minimum?
	5'7?
	Yeah, at least my height, 5'7.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'8, and I would say the minimum is 5'8.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'5 and a half.
	I think 5'9 is the lowest I would go because I already feel tall.
	I'm like, I'm gonna say 1-2.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You feel small.
	Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
	A bear.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Well, first I know how to like handle a bear because like I just am super like into nature and all that stuff.
	So I can handle a bear.
	I know what to do to not get attacked.
	And I don't know.
	Like if I have a gun, like, you know, at least I could shoot the bear or something, worst case.
	And a man, I just am the first thing that's going to come into my brain is, is he going to rape me or kill me?
	You don't think the bear would eat you?
	Again, I know how to like handle a bear and not have it come and attack me.
	I don't have a bear.
	And I could just shoot it.
	I don't know.
	How would you handle it?
	Assuming you don't have a gun, you're just going on a hike.
	I mean, do you typically carry guns on you when you hike?
	Yes, if I'm going in like a rural area.
	Do you have a license for that?
	I go with my family.
	So no?
	You don't have a license for that?
	No.
	How would you handle a bear?
	How would you handle a bear then?
	If you don't have a license, you're by yourself on this hypothetical hike.
	Well, fuck it.
	I'm just also going to go with the bear.
	If I don't have a gun, I'm still going to choose the bear because I know what's going on.
	Well, how would you handle a bear?
	No, you said you just have to like be really big, make yourself big, but also move small or slow.
	Do you know like what you do for the different bears?
	Because you know there's different bears.
	Like you do different things for different bears.
	Do you know?
	Just the grizzly bears.
	I don't really hike anywhere else that would have different.
	So like it's just completely random.
	It's not really based on location.
	So say you like crossed a polar bear.
	What would you do then?
	Oh my god.
	I would never, but I would be crazy.
	They are crazy.
	Polar bear?
	Are you going to scare off the polar bear?
	Do you think the polar bear is going to be scared of you?
	He's going to eat me.
	How tall are you 5'5?
	I don't know.
	I low-key would still pick the bear.
	Like, I just feel like I would still pick the bear.
	I think the question is more like, would you rather likely get eaten alive or racing bears and kill pass a man?
	Because bears, they will attack you.
	They won't always attack you.
	Not always.
	I would time across bears with my family and we were fine.
	Just leave you alone if you don't fuck with them.
	No, we make noise.
	I think it's a black bear.
	We were like making hella noise with pants and the bear ran off.
	Suppose that's what you're supposed to do with polar bear.
	With black bears.
	A polar bear is not going to leave you alone.
	No, a brown bear is not going to leave you alone.
	A black bear you can scare.
	Okay, a polar bear.
	Does it change if it's in an elevator?
	An elevator?
	Yeah.
	A bear in an elevator?
	Yeah.
	A man or bear in an elevator.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I guess I could.
	I have more of a chance of killing a man than a bear.
	So yeah.
	Why do you think you have to kill him?
	Because I just, there's a chance.
	There's a high chance that he'll want to rape or kill me.
	What do you think the chance is?
	50-50.
	So do you think like 50% of men you walk by on the street want to sexually assault you or kill you?
	I don't know about killing you.
	Really?
	But yes.
	Yes.
	I do.
	So you think that the way they look at me and talk to me?
	Yes.
	Or murderers and murder.
	I don't know about murder.
	But definitely.
	50% of men are rapists, is what you're saying.
	Low-key, yes.
	And murderers.
	Not murder.
	So one of the two.
	So 25% are murderers and 25% are rapists.
	So do you think one of your brothers is possibly wants to murder or rape a girl?
	No, because we raise them right.
	How do you?
	But a lot of men are not raised right.
	Like parents in America are very just ignorant and gullible and like they don't even think to maybe have a talk with their children.
	The outcome of that.
	So bad parenting equals murderer and rapist.
	Yes, yes.
	You can 100% raise a school shooter, a rapist.
	Yeah, you can.
	But it's not 50%.
	Like, so out of Nick or Brian, do you think, which one of them do you think is a murderer or rapist?
	I'm not sure.
	But do you think either of them?
	Neither of them.
	They seem kind of cool.
	But there's two of them.
	So one of them has to be, right?
	You never know.
	You really never know.
	Like, do they give you that vibe?
	Like, I mean.
	Do you think that?
	I don't know.
	I need to get them to know them more.
	Usually women haters.
	Usually women haters are, you know, women?
	I think there's a small chance, yeah.
	Okay, I'm not even going to ask about that.
	That's for him.
	So you think 50% of men are rapists and murderers?
	I don't know about murder.
	That's too much.
	But like, definitely, definitely, like, if they had the chance, if you were tied up in a room, I think there's very high chances that 50% of the men will take advantage of that.
	So I'm pretty sure the actual statistic is like less than 1%.
	That is what's reported.
	I know that a lot of things do go unreported, but I still, I really, I think 50% is a rage.
	Pretty high.
	I don't know.
	It's pretty high.
	I just speak to a lot of women.
	I know a lot of women, and they've, like, damn near all of them have been raped.
	No, I agree.
	I know a lot of women that have been assaulted as well, but I wouldn't say that 50% of men are.
	Do you have, like, when you walk down the street, do 50% of men, like, want to rape you?
	Okay, I don't know if they want to, but they talk like they would if they had the opportunity.
	But you said that, you said that 50% of men are rapists and maybe murderers.
	I think there's a very high chance of that.
	So, like, what's the population of LA?
	What is the population?
	It's like a couple million.
	It's like 4 million.
	Okay.
	So, like, the heart of LA, not like the greater LA area.
	So, you think two.
	So, let's say, well, it's like half and half women and men.
	So, you think one million men in Los Angeles are rapists and murderers?
	Not murder.
	Do you know how much do you even, do you know the population of California?
	I don't.
	It's 49 million.
	Yeah, then.
	Yeah, I think a million sounds right.
	Yes.
	But that's just LA.
	Oh, in LA?
	No, I would say California, a million.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so, but then that would like take your 50% to like rapist down to like a 10%.
	Okay, I guess that.
	I mean, I don't think that, but I guess that's more agreeable than 50.
	I don't know.
	Just for me to come across so many women that have had this happen to them either as a child or an adult, like, this is crazy.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	Like, it's definitely a very high percentage.
	Like 100 plus women, really?
	Like, and how, who knows how many other women that one man did that to?
	Well, it it's sad and it's not right, but just because you walk down the street and you get cat called or you have something derogatory said to you, that doesn't mean they want to rape you.
	So, that's what she's going back to: is you're saying half the men that I go down the streets, doesn't matter what time of the day or if I go into Trader Joe's, someone is making a comment to me, therefore half of those men want to rape me.
	Like, that's like if they had the opportunity, they would, because it's not just cat calling, it's more than that.
	Like, but where are you?
	It's LA, and also it's just like Loki, California in general.
	Like, there's a lot of interesting people here.
	Wait, you said when you travel, you also get that as well.
	So, it's not just in one place.
	What we're saying is maybe you should go around with like a bodyguard or something.
	I know you should hire one.
	I should.
	I honestly would rape you, though.
	Literally.
	Like, literally.
	Just a big, strong lesbian woman.
	Maybe you're just attracting that because I don't experience.
	Also, I don't go out a lot, and I usually don't like to go out alone either.
	Why?
	Because I just don't.
	I don't like to do things alone.
	I'm like, I don't know, I like to have friends with me.
	I don't know.
	I think maybe you're in the wrong area if that's actually happening.
	I'm just out like every day going to the grocery store, like random places that this shouldn't be happening at.
	Wait, so you said 50% of men would have to say that.
	She thinks one million out of 49 million people in California, she thinks one million men want to rape her or rape people.
	Would if they're not.
	That's not 10%.
	Or wait, hold on.
	Wait, what?
	What is the actual percentage?
	Just keeps changing.
	I thought it was 50.
	I heard 50.
	Yeah, she's not going to be able to do that.
	No, because we're singing in all of California now.
	Uh-huh.
	But not 50% of the men?
	No.
	A million men.
	A million men.
	So what would that be if there's how many men are in the in California?
	30.
	What's the population of California?
	29 million.
	So 20 1 out of 25?
	191 million in California.
	Men.
	What?
	Oh.
	So a million out of 20.
	Let's just say one out of 20.
	So that would be 5%.
	5% of the men would do this.
	I thought you were an engineer.
	Were you the one that said you were going to school for engineers?
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to say, how do you know that?
	Oh, yeah, no, I don't do math.
	Okay.
	But your original claim was 50.
	All right?
	I think it's more just like 100 or a million people in California.
	Because, yeah, I just think it sounds right.
	Because there's 50 million.
	I would say about one.
	If they had the opportunity, they would rape somebody.
	A woman.
	Or another man.
	Because there's the actual statistic of men that would that it's less than 1% in California.
	But that's when we recorded it.
	I agree that is true.
	Rapes are not recorded.
	Like all of them.
	All the girls in the world.
	No, but it's still not going to be like 50% or 10%.
	No, I've never heard that.
	Hold on, if it's not reported, how would you ever infer statistics as to the likelihood of rape?
	I was saying that literally every woman I know damn near has been raped as a child or a woman.
	What percentage of them as a child?
	Maybe like a little less than half.
	but it's sickening how many children like yeah it's a disgusting it's a disgusting crime but But that's just why I have that reason.
	Saying 50% of women have been essayed as a child doesn't at all is not at all comprehensible as it relates to the crime statistics that we know.
	Like, you're just pulling this out of your ass.
	No, it's personally people I've met.
	So you, how many, how many people have you met that you talk about rape?
	Like, BTW.
	Oh my God, let's take a shot of Hennessy.
	By the way, I was raped as a child.
	That's not how me and my friends hang out.
	Yeah, but what's your re like, what's your, the, the, the pool of people that you're referencing here?
	types of people literally like i like you i feel like you have to have a pretty i meet all types of people like Like, somewhat of a connection to, like, be like, by the way, I want to have a really heavy conversation with you.
	I was molested as a child.
	It's not even like that, honestly.
	It's just like it'll come up in a conversation of like, like, me and my friends talk about worldly things.
	Like, you know, so if it gets brought up, like, the subject of men or the subject of rape or the subject of whatever, like, I mean, it just comes up a lot.
	And then they tell me, and I'm just like, damn, how many women, how many more women am I going to hear that this happened to?
	This is insane.
	It just seems.
	You say almost every woman who you know has been raped.
	Yes.
	And 50% of those was when they were children.
	I would say a little less than half.
	Okay, the numbers keep changing.
	I said that before.
	I don't dispute.
	There's no dispute that these things happen, but I find it dubious for you to say that almost all of the women you know have been raped.
	And 50% of them were raped as children.
	It's a sad truth.
	Soak it up.
	It's sad.
	And it's true.
	This doesn't correlate at all with the statistics that we know.
	Again, most rapes are not recorded.
	That still wouldn't even compute that, like, I don't know.
	What do you say?
	Give us a percentage of the women you know who have been essayed.
	It like raped.
	It's 90%, 95%.
	You said it was most or all, I think.
	Yeah, like 85%.
	85%.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I mean, I suppose that's what I'm saying.
	Stepdads, uncles, like that type of stuff.
	Older men.
	Okay.
	That's why I said the 5%.
	That's my reasoning behind it.
	Okay.
	I mean.
	This is not in line.
	It's not in line at all with the crime statistics that we know.
	It's not even in line with like these organizations that I think that their stats are off, but even some of these organizations that report on this, they don't ever go this high.
	This is just my personal experience.
	Okay, I guess.
	How the fuck did we get on this topic?
	The bear bears is random.
	All right.
	I mean, I would just point out, you didn't reference statistics or whatever, but a lot of these statistics, I've read some of these studies that they've done where they ask women and they try to analyze victimization rates.
	They collapse in these studies, they will collapse all kinds of things that are wrong, but they'll collapse it under this umbrella term sexual violence.
	And it's this very disingenuous thing that these organizations do.
	And they'll, for example, they'll include under sexual violence cat calling, which is wrong.
	But when you use that and then you put out this data set and you say, this is this amount of women have experienced sexual violence.
	And most people, without, they're not going to look into the study, they're going to assume that that's rape or like severe forms of sexual assault.
	It's this really anti-what's the right word for it?
	Just insincere thing where you have this ideology, you're trying to paint a picture.
	Look at, there's no doubt that these terrible crimes happen.
	And they do happen way more than they should.
	There's no doubt there.
	But it doesn't do these organizations any service to like artificially inflate by counting things that don't fall under what legally would be considered SA or rape.
	For example, you can tell me what you think about this.
	In one of these studies I saw, a guy who's in a relationship with a girl, if the guy I'm trying to recall the exact details, if the guy threatens to break up with his girlfriend because she's not having enough sex with him, that's a form of sexual coercion.
	And that's going to fall under the sort of umbrella term of sexual violence.
	Sexual coercion, right?
	Well, I don't really think if you're in a monogamous relationship and you've had plenty of casual, or not casual, you've had monogamous consensual sex and your girlfriend like dead bedrooms you.
	I don't think that that's like a sex crime to be like, hey, babe, I don't think I want to date you anymore because we're not having sex.
	Sorry, that's not a sex crime.
	Or do you think it is?
	No, I don't think that's.
	But these organizations categorize it as a form of sexual coercion, sexual violence, aka, some form of sexual abuse or sex crime.
	By the way, I don't have a double standard on this.
	If you're a woman and your boyfriend stops fucking you, you can break up with your boyfriend if he doesn't want to fuck you anymore.
	That's totally fair game.
	That's not sexual coercion.
	It's not some sort of...
	No.
	Now, I think it's fair to be like, hey, what's going on?
	Let's have a conversation.
	But I also think it's already gone to a point where you need to have a conversation.
	Your partner no longer cares about your needs.
	I think it's fair to be frustrated if you've made like, oh, we have, there is this, this guy kept a spreadsheet and he listed, this is kind of tacky.
	I don't think you should do this as a guy.
	But he kept a spreadsheet of all the times his wife rejected them for sex.
	And in like a two-month period or something, I don't know, it was a couple weeks period or whatever.
	She rejected them like 20 times and they had sex three times.
	I don't know, man.
	It's tough.
	You want to break up with your chick because she's not fucking you.
	You want to break up with your boyfriend because he's not fucking you.
	I think it's valid.
	Yeah.
	I think that's fine.
	Yeah.
	That's fine.
	Yeah.
	But they, using their definition, they considered it.
	Yeah, I disagree.
	I think these organizations need to stop that.
	Yeah.
	I am curious, though, just for if I do encounter them, what organizations are which ones?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So the specific one I saw, it was rain.
	Okay.
	They linked to a study on their website because it was like one in three women.
	And then I looked at the actual study and it had the sexual violence definition that included exactly that.
	Crazy.
	That's concerning.
	And it's like, well, or I think there was another one where it was just like, I'm trying to think what it was.
	It was just, I don't know.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah.
	We agree with you.
	But I mean, so when we're talking about this, are we like, I don't know, we've had some we've had some dubious things said on the show on this topic.
	Like, for example, can I ask you guys a question?
	And I'll acknowledge ahead of time that this could be true.
	But do you think, like, so let's say a woman has a boyfriend and they have a long history of having consensual sex.
	And then she says she got raped by her boyfriend, who she had consensual sex with the night before.
	And then the very next night, she has consensual sex with him.
	I realize that this could happen.
	Like, it is possible the guy could, she could not want it and he forces himself on her.
	Clearly, rape, right?
	But we've had some women come on the show say that, yeah, I've got a boyfriend.
	Like, I suck his dick all the time.
	But, like, there was this one time I froze.
	I didn't say no, I froze.
	But 24 hours prior, I initiated sex with him.
	And then 24 hours later, I initiated sex with him.
	But this one time in between, she's saying she was raped.
	Was she rape?
	I don't think she was.
	Was she raped?
	No.
	Like, if she didn't say no or didn't express to him.
	Yeah, communication.
	Like, communication.
	I think that's confusing him if she's having sex with him this day and then like 24 hours later, but then in between, she's like, that's really fair to him because how is he supposed to know anything?
	Yeah, because I'm like, he's worried.
	But if she says no, but if she says no and she's like, then yeah, that's rape.
	Yeah.
	Pull up the super chat.
	Felicity's going to read it.
	Even a bear would avoid chair one because he would be able to smell how stupid she is.
	Also, the bear knows he would need a penicillin shot after walking by the skunk.
	Aw, you just paid $100 to tell me you don't agree with me.
	That's really sad.
	Emotional damage.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	No, emotional damage, baby.
	Go get some help.
	I know.
	Really quick, going back to the height thing.
	You said taller than you.
	So as long as he's taller than you, you're 5'6 ⁇ .
	Like 5'7 ⁇ , you're fine with.
	Yeah.
	You're 5'2, you said 6'2 ⁇ .
	Yeah, but obviously I've dated people that are 6'B.2 and - minimum height of a man here.
	Yeah, I like people that are like a foot taller than me because I like wearing heels and being like, see, right here.
	I just like being tiny next to the motherfucker.
	So you're 5'2 ⁇ , you want a guy who's 6'2 ⁇ .
	All the men I've dated have been that tall.
	My exact.
	She wants a 6'2 20 millionaire.
	Okay.
	Everybody else, none of your answers were really.
	I don't have any issues with any of your other stuff.
	Okay, the bear thing.
	I mean, we won't linger on the bear too long.
	I would.
	Who picked bear?
	Bear?
	I didn't even get past Charlie.
	Oh, just sit in an elevator.
	I swear to God.
	Okay.
	Don't worry about that.
	But you picked bear.
	Yeah.
	It depends on the situation.
	The bear and the hat.
	Oh, my God.
	Fucking killing me.
	I'm sorry.
	It always depends.
	It does.
	Like, I'd rather see a black bear than a grizzly bear.
	And then currently I'm staying at like a hostel that's mixed gender, and I don't mind being in the same hostel room with guys asleep.
	But if I'm out in the woods alone and I'm camping alone, which I've done before, I don't really want to see a guy and let him know that I'm there alone.
	Here's the question: Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
	So the context, there isn't really a depends because the random bear could be a black bear, brown bear, grizzly bear, what's the polar bear?
	The random man could be the nicest guy ever, could be a murderer, could be who knows what?
	It could be random man, right?
	If it's a hike, then probably a man, but if I'm camping alone, I'm gonna rather see a bear.
	And also, Indiana doesn't have really any bears other than the occasional black bears.
	Oh my god.
	Okay.
	What do you pick?
	I picked bear, but if we're going on a hike, honestly, like, I think I'm scared of a bear rather than the man.
	A bear.
	I'd rather a bear.
	See?
	Sina, Is it Sina or Sina?
	Man, what about you?
	A man.
	Man?
	A man.
	Okay.
	We won't linger on the bear one for too long, but basically, I think it's sexist to pick bear.
	I think you guys are raging sexists to pick bear.
	And here's why.
	I always like to use this, but you know, whatever.
	I've used it a few times tonight.
	If we change the question to, would you rather come across a random black person or a random bear and you pick the bear over a black person, would we all agree that it would be really racist to pick a bear over a black person?
	But again, that people of color are victims of racism and men did this to themselves.
	What the fuck?
	Because the majority of men collected.
	That's collective guilt.
	I'm not guilty.
	If I'm an innocent person, I'm not guilty for what other men do.
	But the majority of men.
	It's not the majority.
	The majority of men.
	No, it's not the majority.
	Go ahead.
	So if you're saying a majority of your exes cheated on you, are you going to say, okay, all men are going to cheat on me from now from now on?
	And if all of those men you dated were white or black, would you say, okay, black men are going to cheat on me?
	No.
	So why is it that all Men because the majority of men, like black people didn't do anything to deserve racism other than somebody just thought, oh, I'm better than them.
	Like, no, it's an opinion.
	Okay, if a majority of your exes cheated, would you say all men will cheat?
	But they did something to me.
	Black people did nothing to anyone.
	They didn't do anything to anyone.
	What about that guy who fucking murked that white woman on the whole reason why racism exists is hold on?
	What about that white woman who got murked by a black man?
	Okay.
	It's a man.
	It's a black person.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's a man.
	Well, how do you know it's because he's a man?
	What if it's because he's a black person?
	That doesn't exist.
	What do you mean?
	So you're racist.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	I'm testing your logic.
	No, it's irrelevant because your color, I'm not seeing the color.
	I'm seeing that you are a man and that most men are the ones who are doing this.
	He called her.
	Hold on.
	It was absolutely racially motivated.
	Didn't he call her like a white bitch or something when he fucking shanked her?
	He was like, got the white woman or something.
	I didn't watch the video because it was.
	Well, then maybe he's racist.
	Like, still a man.
	So maybe the motivation was racial.
	What, chat?
	What did he say?
	He said something like...
	He, like, walked away and said something.
	Well, when he walked away, he said, I got that white woman.
	And the motive was a little bit of a girl.
	I just got the white girls.
	Sorry, what's that?
	The motive that when he was asked, why did you do that?
	He said it was because he said that she was reading his mind.
	Okay, so he could hear his mother.
	He's not okay in the head.
	He's literally like mentally ill.
	Okay, so why can't you make that attribution towards men who commit crimes?
	Maybe they're mentally ill.
	Maybe it has nothing to do with the fact that they're men.
	Maybe they're mentally ill.
	Why do you give grace towards a black person who committed an atrocious crime, but not men in general?
	Because it has nothing to do with their color of their skin.
	It has to do with that they're a man and men are just more aggressive than women.
	This is, I don't actually think that this is even true.
	Even granting that it was true, I would just defer back to just because a very small proportion of a group commits a crime, that doesn't like.
	Grant you carte blanche to do this collective guilt thing where oh, all men or all people of this group are bad.
	I, not all majority no, it's not the majority.
	I will say what?
	Wait one one thing sorry, I want to explore the majority.
	So you think, here that crime you just said that men are incarcerated, more men are killed, more men are like, you know violence, all that, i'm pretty sure that's all like they did that to themselves.
	Wait, they got incarcerated, they chose to commit the crime together.
	Okay, so you don't have any issues with like, when there's overrepresentation of black people who are incarcerated, or anything like that.
	What do you mean?
	A problem like?
	What do you mean?
	Well, like you might do, do you ever make the argument that like oh, why are these cops policing like black communities this way?
	Do I believe that?
	Like okay, there's.
	Do you think that there's any racist component to the fact that there's, like a higher proportion of black men in jail per capita than white people?
	I think in like certain states, yes.
	Certain states.
	Certain states, yes.
	But I mean, this is across all states.
	Per capita, there's more black men who are in prison.
	But there's also more, like is it just their choice, or is there systemic racism?
	Is there systemicism?
	Okay, then there's definitely check this out, though.
	So, you know, George Floyd, BLM riots, he was killed by well, the justification for the riots was he was killed by the police officer.
	There are, of course, disputes as to the actual cause of death.
	Some people believe, and the toxicology reports seem to indicate as much.
	He died of a fentanyl overdose.
	In any case, there's massive outrage, whatever.
	If I could tell you, though, that there are more, just even white men who are killed, there are more white men who are killed by police officers than there are women of all races combined, black, Latina, Asian, white, all women combined.
	There's more white men that are killed by police than there are women total.
	Wouldn't that also have to, you'd have to be like, wow, there's sexism against men.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	If those were the statistics, then I would say that.
	It is the statistics.
	I would agree.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So you bring up choice.
	Well, men choose to commit these crimes.
	Okay, well, then black people also choose to disproportionately commit crimes.
	But I just like, I want to separate the race from the gender.
	Like to have, like, the majority of men are all races.
	Like, it doesn't matter what race you are.
	Like, you're a man and like the majority of you are acting crazy.
	No, the majority of men are not acting crazy.
	But why would you think that?
	Why would you, you would, you're the one making the claim that it's the majority.
	It's the majority of men.
	I think I'm speaking from personal experience, experience from other people.
	Okay, but check this out.
	Let's say I, let's just say hypothetically, I had three, four, five bad experiences with black people.
	Would that then give me justification to say the majority of black people are bad?
	Would that be logically sound?
	Right.
	So I get that you've had a lot of bad experiences with men.
	I'll even, you know, sure, I'll grant it.
	That wouldn't then give you the basis to say the majority of men are bad.
	Just because you've had a lot of bad experiences.
	It's like there's only two genders here.
	there's multiple races so for you to like okay Yeah.
	So like if one race, five people of the same race did something to you, it's just way the grand scheme of things is like there's only two genders.
	One of them is acting more crazy than the other.
	And that's just my opinion.
	It like and they're all multiple races.
	So it really doesn't matter what race you are.
	But it's the majority of a whole gender.
	It's not the majority.
	It's not the majority.
	Right, but you're doing this sort of collective guilt thing.
	You're basically saying, oh, well, I've had these bad experiences and these crimes disproportionately.
	Men commit these crimes disproportionately as compared to women.
	So ergo, like all men bad, or majority of men bad.
	It's clearly not true.
	It's not true.
	Trust me, if the majority of men were as bad as you think they are, trust me, society would be giga fucked.
	There'd be mass amounts of it's not.
	No, it's not.
	There's issues with society.
	There are issues, but trust me, I don't think you understand like societal collapse, really.
	We're on the way there.
	No.
	No, we're look.
	Possibly, possibly we're on the way there, but currently society functions.
	You have garbage men who pick up the trash.
	You have plumbers who fix your plumbing.
	You have men who, by the way, there's not enough credit given to men who overwhelmingly, like you, you want to point to men are also evil.
	Men overwhelmingly, like women are total fucking cowards.
	Men overwhelmingly are the ones who do acts of heroism.
	If somebody's in a distress situation, a man's going to be the one to save them.
	A woman's drowning during a flood.
	It's not going to be some woman swimming in there to save her.
	It's going to be some man.
	It's absolutely true.
	The majority of heroic acts are almost exclusively done by men.
	So, yes, it's absolutely the case.
	Almost all acts of heroism are exclusively done by men.
	I think you're dismissing, you're looking at the negative of men and not looking at the positive of men.
	Not only that, moving a step below just heroism, the backbreaking, grueling work that is required.
	You're biologically stronger than men.
	No, not even the backbreaking, grueling work that is required to keep society functioning when you're living in Indiana and it's does it get below zero?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, when it's fucking below zero, we got two women from Indiana here.
	Below zero in Indiana in the middle of winter, it's not some woman going out there to fix the electrical lawn.
	At 3 a.m., you think it's a woman going out there to fix the electrical grid?
	No, it's some grizzled dude who, some fucking white-bearded dude, or, you know, whatever.
	It could be some 20, 30-year-old, whatever.
	It doesn't matter the age.
	A man is going to be the one that fixes shit when shit hits the fan.
	It's not women.
	So all the comforts that you women ungratefully take for granted, it's men that bestow upon you the comforts of modernity.
	The comforts of modernity.
	I mean, it's just so ungraciously cared for.
	I do agree.
	A lot of men do a lot of difficult blue-collar jobs.
	But that being said, not all women have jobs that are luxurious.
	I mean, I pick up green, mushy people covered in maggots off the floor sometimes.
	Oh my gosh.
	You know, I've had to reassemble people from the get-go.
	And I don't, there are men who tell me all the time, I can't do what you do.
	That's fine, but you need to get rid of the solipsism here.
	You're always pointing to, well, I'm the outlier, or I know women who are the outlier.
	So there's no dispute.
	I just know a lot of women who are also like this.
	You may not know them, but I just, I'm not, there are a lot of girls who are like me.
	Okay, that's fine, but we have statistics from the Bureau of Labor statistics that show when it comes to critical infrastructure jobs, women are completely absent, completely absent.
	You know, all these jobs that basically hold up and are the foundation for society.
	It's 95, 97, 99% men.
	I can't.
	Yeah, there's one.
	It's a funeral service, it's flipping.
	It's actually more women are going into funeral service.
	I would not say that funeral service is necessarily like critical backbone infrastructure in society.
	I mean, we were during COVID.
	I don't see how the number of deaths would.
	I mean, it's you obviously can't just like let dead bodies like be kicking it in the streets and stuff.
	Something has to be done there.
	But this idea that it's comparable to like the hardworking men who ensure that the, you know, the water system, the electrical system, waste management, all these critical infrastructure fields, telecommunications, everything, everything.
	It's predominated by men.
	We were talking about the wage gap earlier.
	There's no dispute here.
	The statistics are clear.
	There's no alternative facts.
	Men dominate in these fields and these fields are what keep society running.
	I don't disagree.
	Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but I would say, but like I wouldn't like completely say that women like don't work those jobs because like her mom is a firefighter.
	My mom's a firefighter and she will tell me that literally they will reject people, women, to work the job.
	So then you want to say, oh, we're the backbone of the whole country.
	Okay, then let us work.
	What percentage of firefighters are women?
	Exactly my point.
	What percentage are not allowed to be?
	That's because you need to be, first off, you need, I don't know who your mom is.
	There's a lot of affirmative action, DEI stuff, lowering of standards.
	Women don't have the record.
	She's a captain and an engineer, and she literally has had to deal with men constantly trying to test her and trying to belittle her.
	And they do it in the entire department, and they're not letting women into the department.
	Hold on, your mother is a complete contradiction of this entire claim.
	Your mother's a firefighter.
	Exactly, but they don't allow a lot of women in their state.
	Especially in LA.
	They definitely do.
	She's not from L.A.
	Well, you're in LA.
	You live in L.A.
	Okay, whatever.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I mean, you know, the Palisades fire, I don't know, fucking the DEI shit with the LA fire department or whatever the fuck.
	She's not in the fire department, but that's fine, but women don't have the physical strength to do the job.
	Okay, so don't sit here and say, oh, we're like the backbone.
	You guys won't even allow us to have a bad person.
	Yes, because of men's innate nature, we're more suited and acclimated to doing these jobs.
	So don't complain that you have the job then.
	No, I'm not complaining.
	I'm saying you have this bigoted, generalized contempt or hatred for men.
	And I'm saying maybe there should be a bit more appreciation of men.
	I don't hate men.
	You say the majority of men are creeps, weirdos.
	You think they're predators.
	Majority.
	But the good ones are so.
	Wait, wait, why would you emphasize majority?
	My specific grievance with you is the use of the term majority.
	If you were like, no, no, no, it's just the majority, sorry, minority of men, then yes.
	But saying the majority of men paints the majority of men as bad, I think that's kind of wrong.
	Like, I would never say the majority of black people, the majority of this group.
	I think she should say the majority of men she meets, because this is her.
	Those are two different things.
	That's why I'm saying that I mean, this is what everyone, majority of men I mean, everyone I know.
	Even if she meets 100 men per day and they all slap her across the face, that still wouldn't be the majority of men.
	That she meets?
	No, majority.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	I agree.
	But I think what she's trying to say is the majority of men she meets, not the majority of men.
	Yeah, but I don't think that's what she means.
	No.
	She means majority of men, point blank, period.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's not the majority.
	Until I'm proven wrong.
	Until you're proven wrong?
	Yes.
	Should men start out in prison?
	Like they have to work their way out?
	They have to prove themselves.
	Answer the question, should men start out in prison?
	No, but I definitely think that as a collective, just need to do better and start raising men better.
	But okay, replace men with black people.
	It sounds racism.
	Racism is a choice.
	Is your statement racist if we replace men with black people?
	Yes.
	Black people just need to do better.
	We got to raise these black people better.
	That's fucking racist.
	Yeah.
	Thus, ergo, your statement is sexist.
	Maybe it is, but that's just how I feel.
	So is sexism bad?
	Not really, no.
	Is sexism against women bad?
	If it's your opinion, no, it's an opinion.
	Racism?
	What?
	If it's an opinion?
	Sexism bad.
	It is a choice.
	So misogyny isn't bad if it's an opinion?
	It is bad.
	But that's what you just said.
	You said that towards women, which is misogyny.
	But it's okay because it's an opinion.
	It's not necessarily okay or not okay, but it's an opinion.
	Like, it doesn't really care if it's not.
	Feelings don't matter.
	It doesn't really concern anybody if someone is sexist.
	Like someone doesn't like if they treat other people differently because of their sex or let's bring race into it, too, because of their race.
	That's bad.
	Race is very different.
	People get hate crime because of sex and race and stuff.
	And that's bad.
	This is just an opinion.
	But it's like men did this to themselves.
	No.
	Black people do this to themselves.
	No, they didn't.
	Any statement you can say.
	Because somebody chose to wake up one day and be like, this color of your skin is wrong.
	No, they didn't do anything to deserve that.
	Men, the majority of men I know, I meet, everyone meets that I know.
	I want to live in a society where people don't say, I have had bad experiences with this group of people, and I can look at crime statistics.
	And because of these two things, that gives me justification for bigotry.
	That gives me justification for sexism in your case, or it would give a racist justification for racism in their case.
	For example, and I just think it's a dangerous road you're going down.
	I don't believe racism is bad, sexism is bad.
	But what you're doing is opening the door to racists to say, well, if your position is okay, my position is okay.
	So if a racist were to say, well, I've had bad experiences with black people.
	I've had a bunch of bad experiences with black people.
	Maybe it was three, four, five.
	That's a very, very small proportion of black people, by the way.
	And, and, oh, look, these crime statistics, black people are more likely to commit violence against white people.
	Black people are more likely to, you know, commit XYZ crimes.
	Therefore, I am going to generalize all black people and say, you know, negative things about black people.
	That's clearly wrong.
	It's clearly racist.
	I would never say any sort of negative generalized statement.
	I would point to there are a specific subset, a very small proportion.
	There's a small proportion of people who commit these crimes, whether it's because they're, not because, whether they're men, whether they're black.
	And I would never attribute the action of the minority to the majority.
	I would never say this minority of this group, whether it's black or white or women, any group, and say, I think, well, the whole group is rotten, or the majority of the group is rotten because of the negative actions of a small portion of that group.
	I just think it's way different from gender.
	It's not different.
	It's logically coherent.
	Way more people.
	So is it okay for a man to kill a woman just because he doesn't like women because it's an opinion?
	Because that's what you said.
	No, she said it's just an opinion that makes it, that's okay.
	Sex is a single person.
	No, I'm saying it doesn't really concern someone.
	If somebody doesn't necessarily feel comfortable around a man, it doesn't really concern anybody except that person.
	But for you to hate someone because of their skin color, what did that person do to you?
	Can you hate somebody because they're a man?
	Or a woman.
	And they didn't do anything to you?
	No, I don't think that's wrong.
	I don't know if you're not.
	Oh, you guys, okay.
	Sexism doesn't mind because it's an opinion.
	I don't think anyone should be rude to anybody, but if somebody feels uncomfortable around a man, they have a right to because most women do feel uncomfortable.
	White people should be allowed to feel uncomfortable around.
	I don't know why you keep bringing up race.
	Because that's the logical extension of your position.
	Nothing to do with race.
	It's the logical extension of your position.
	If it's okay for women to feel whatever, to feel uncomfortable, then surely it must be okay for a white person to feel uncomfortable around racial.
	It's not to be racist.
	People have no reason to be racist.
	It's the same.
	Hold on.
	It would be the same criteria.
	Because the majority of people are literally harassed by men every day.
	But it would be the same criteria.
	Your criteria is: I've had bad experiences, bad, my own anecdotal experiences.
	And look at these crime statistics over here.
	Men do more of this crime.
	Okay.
	It would be logically consistent then to say, well, hold on.
	A white person, I've had X, Y, Z, 3, 4, 5 bad experiences with black people.
	And look at these crime statistics right here.
	Wow.
	Then that just gives you justification for racism.
	Are those black people men or women?
	Like, I just think it needs to be gender.
	I just don't think race has anything to do with it.
	Isn't it the case that there are more?
	I could be wrong.
	I'm trying to think.
	Wait, I'm trying to remember the stats.
	per capita are there more black women i don't know if i i'm actually i don't know Can we look it up?
	Are there more black women who commit murders than white men per capita?
	I could be wrong.
	I'm just curious.
	Yeah, make it.
	It has to be per capita, though.
	Per capita, very important.
	Anyways, we got to, we'll move on after this.
	Oh my goodness, you guys are crazy.
	I do think that I'm not justifying it, but I think part of the reason women are so wary of that woman, the bear question is even where I grew up because I'd like to give people benefit out and I travel alone a lot or I do activities alone a lot.
	You know, I've had my whole family my whole life when I go to do these activities alone be like, hey, you need to be careful.
	Hey, you need to go tell someone where you're at.
	Or they scold me because I can't by myself.
	But I will say when my family says that, they're not bringing up like little ladies jumping me or something.
	I'm not saying it's right that they assume that, but a lot of women have been told that their whole life.
	And maybe that's why they're a little hesitant.
	Yeah, that's also true.
	Yeah, that is very true.
	Okay, good talk.
	We are, once she's back from the bathroom, we're going to do the famous, famous question.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let's see if there's any chats here.
	No, I think we're good.
	Okay, one sec.
	All right.
	I had to get a message out to my staff there.
	Let's see here.
	Let's see.
	Nick, let's do quick Twitch and then I'm going to do some Venmo Cash App shout outs.
	Rudy, thank for the five on Cash App.
	And Michaela, I think for the 10 on Venmo.
	We'll do merch really quick, I guess.
	Guys, shop.whatever.com, get yourself some merch.
	We got some great merch there, Big Lady Matter, whatever, all that shit.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Guys, drop us a follow.
	Holy shit, you fucking, oh my God, you guys are abusing.
	Two hours since we've had a prime sub.
	Oh my goodness.
	Guys, you are.
	This is abuse.
	Two hours since a prime sub, boys.
	Holy shit.
	Ridiculous.
	I'm hurt.
	I'm offended.
	I'm a little depressed, to be honest.
	I'm feeling a little upset.
	I might just end the stream right now.
	I'm just kidding.
	Anyways, careful.
	I got Kleenexes if you need it.
	Thank you.
	Drop us a Prime sub, though.
	Drop us a Prime sub.
	Michaela, also thank you for the 10 on Venmo.
	Let's see here.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh my gosh.
	Y'all, y'all.
	Y'all crazy.
	Y'all crazy for that one.
	Let's see here.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	What do you rate, Stiffler?
	Ask the women and Mary, you can go 1030.
	Yeah, not now.
	No, no.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven.
	Starting with you.
	Um, just looks.
	Just looks, yeah.
	Just looks.
	You can't include your dazzling personality.
	Can't include that.
	Well, one people.
	Well, because there's some things that I'm gonna get done that will make me a 10.
	Like what?
	Like, I want to get my boobs done.
	No, like, don't do that.
	And I want to don't do that.
	Honestly, I just, I really want my boobs done.
	She has a horror story.
	She got botched.
	No.
	Uh-oh.
	What the hell?
	Before they got fixed.
	Oh, I'm like, they look great.
	Right, Cena?
	Really?
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, never mind.
	I would say like a.
	So what are you now without the fake titties, I guess?
	Thank you so much.
	I don't know, like eight and a half.
	How much would it be with fake titties?
	A ten.
	Okay.
	Just curious, what cup size are you currently?
	Or what?
	Like a C.
	Oh.
	And I want to be like Cindy Sweeney.
	Well, she's natural.
	Yeah, but I want it that you want that size.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Isn't C that's already pretty good, right?
	No, I want them to be like porn star.
	Bruh.
	Wifey material.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You know, from the message I sent, you took issue with this.
	I think we're all better than a number.
	All of us.
	Facts.
	Okay.
	If you want me to give you my rating, I can and why I do it, but sure.
	Yeah.
	Negative 10.
	What?
	You're negative 10.
	Yeah.
	What if you embalmed yourself?
	Well, when you embalm, it's not make you trying to make someone look nice and presentable, but it's not plastic surgery.
	So you're not somewhat facetious joke.
	But you know, they put on makeup on them, right?
	The bodies.
	For much of my life, I've been told I'm deeply unattractive.
	I've never dated in high school.
	People like the rating scale, especially when you're high school.
	I have something for you.
	Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes, the right look, you can be very striking.
	No, I know I'm ugly.
	I'm sure your chat's having a fun time telling me how gross and worthless I am.
	So don't ever say that ever again.
	That's what I took issue with is because I see how bad that kind of stuff can be.
	Like, I'm in the Big Brothers, Big Sisters program with an 11-year-old girl, and she's already worrying about her weight.
	And it's just so destructive.
	And, you know, I've had to deal with an eating disorder and got so much therapy.
	Yeah, you're just.
	It's just, it's bad.
	You wrote that the rating thing, it's destructive to the mental health of many people.
	Yes, and it's not just women, it's men.
	Like, I know with social media and a lot of young guys, they're doing that looks maxing thing, and it's just really toxic and sad because your look should be your least interesting thing about you.
	Yeah.
	Well, hold on, but there's two different things here that we have to differentiate: there's the looks rating, and then there's generalized vanity.
	So, even if like we were, you know, we were all so above it, and we were above rating people on the 1 to 10 scale, that wouldn't do away with people's desire to be good-looking and attractive.
	So, that's kind of a different thing here.
	I guess we're talking about vanity.
	I guess it's looking your best is one thing, but I feel like when people are trying to look their best, they're measuring up to someone else.
	Like, for example, you want to look like Sidney Sweeney, and I think you look great the way you are.
	But it's just fun to have big boobs.
	Aren't your boobs already big?
	Be fun, nerd.
	Oh, she wants more fun, more bigger.
	Okay.
	I call him my pseudo-stepson, but my fiancé's had a son that lived with us since he was 10.
	He's 18 now, and he went through a bad period of time where he was dealing with an eating disorder.
	I just don't wish that on the other side.
	Okay, but I'm not sure the specifically the one to ten rating question or system does away from the broader societal vanity.
	So, my rating, the looks rating one to ten, whether it existed or not, people would still engage in vanity, comparison, wanting to look their best.
	So, my question is: how specifically is the rating system destructive?
	Because I think the rating question relates to truth and being able to accurately assess yourself.
	I think the rejection of truth is destructive for one's mental health and society.
	I disagree.
	I mean, people, like I hear, especially growing up, especially when I went to high school, guys always would give you just a rating, unsolicited or not.
	Or sometimes, you know, growing up at social media, women do it too.
	It's not right.
	I don't think it's right.
	Anyone does it.
	Well, I don't think you should, hold on.
	I don't think you should walk up to somebody and be like, you're a fucking four, ugly person.
	You should clearly, but when we're just having like a sort of analytical conversation about this, we're asking somebody's rating.
	I don't really think it's going to be a massive source for insecurity.
	I don't know.
	And when I watch the videos, you have either shorts with people commenting or the live chat.
	Anytime anyone rates them, a lot of the chat's just like, oh, well, they're like this much lower.
	They're so ugly.
	Ha ha ha.
	And I think that's really hurtful.
	I suppose, but I mean, if you've spent even a day on the internet, you know that even if you make like tasteful cooking videos or whatever, or play video games, like people are going to leave nasty comments on YouTube.
	But as it relates to that specific thing, and look, I can promise you, even men or women who make benign, whatever kind of content, they're going to face criticisms of all kinds.
	Welcome to the internet.
	That's been the case for decades at this point.
	Well, especially since the invention of social media, YouTube comments have always been pretty nasty.
	And it's not even my stuff.
	Like, you again, go look up a girl who makes cooking videos.
	There will be nasty comments.
	But sure, it's wrong.
	But I do think with these videos about the looks ratings, if a woman is like a five and she calls herself a six, whatever.
	I don't really give a fuck.
	Don't care.
	Not going to call her out.
	But if a woman's a five and she calls herself a 10, I think that's fair game criticism.
	So, you know, look, I'll give somebody like plus or minus a point or two.
	I'll give them a bit of leeway from my own assessment, which is always very accurate, by the way.
	I'm very, I'm very accurate with my ratings.
	But for an average woman to say she's a 10, that's where we get into this territory of like clear, ridiculous delusion.
	But then we also like, what's defining our looks?
	Yeah, beauty.
	What's the standard holder?
	Because like everyone has different like you could literally like like someone like me.
	Like someone has my traits, my color, my, like, you know, it could be a lot of things that I can make fairly unbiased determinations as to like across races.
	Like I can be like, that's a beautiful black woman.
	That's a beautiful white.
	That's an ugly white woman.
	So I believe I, while I might have like my own preferences when it comes to dating or whatever, I can still mostly make a fairly reasonable determination, I think.
	Let's do this.
	Before we dive into the criticisms of the looks rating thing, let's get everybody's looks rating, then we'll dive in.
	What do you rate yourself?
	Eight and a half, nine.
	Okay.
	Do you want to give a real rating?
	No, I really do think it's, I don't even know what I look like.
	That sounds weird.
	All right, that's fine.
	I'll just put X.
	Okay, 8.5.
	What about you?
	I know that you said it's solution, but I'm going to give myself a 10.
	Okay, no, that's a 3.
	As you should.
	I won't give you any grief at the moment.
	What about you, Cena?
	A six.
	A six.
	Okay.
	You, Sina, you are a, you pander.
	Pander.
	You're a panda.
	Never mind.
	Like the animal?
	Yes.
	You're like a cute panda bear.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome.
	Okay.
	Anyways, whatever.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I have always said 10, so I'm just going to stand on business and slay queen.
	Oh, my God.
	So cool.
	But, you know, for what it's worth, I would go around and be able to tell everyone here that you guys are also a 10.
	And I don't even think we would make it on the show if we weren't 10s.
	So well, hold on.
	Everybody's a 10?
	Everybody, including you.
	Even me?
	Yes.
	Are all 10.
	With those blue eyes.
	Are all women?
	Whoa, okay.
	She, ever since I said that I made a certain amount of money.
	All right.
	So, anyways.
	Are all women tens?
	All women 10s.
	I'm very like AYSO trophy with it.
	Like, you get a 10, you get a 10 because I'm.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Are all men tens?
	Huh?
	All men tens.
	Everyone's a 10.
	So those.
	Everyone's a 10 because everyone's a 10 to somebody.
	Hold on, you see.
	Everybody's a 10 to somebody else.
	No, no, but you used to be a stripper.
	So those dudes that came into the strip club, all of them were 10s too.
	I think you're reading into it too deep.
	I think, Felicity, you need to zip it.
	Zip it, Felicity, because I'm on a roll.
	I've been thinking about this too hard.
	I think you're thinking a little too hard.
	There's nothing going on in there.
	Just sitting here.
	There's nothing going on in your head?
	No.
	Checks out.
	So anyways, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	So all men are tens, all women are tens.
	All right.
	You're a ten.
	What about you?
	Kelsey?
	I'd say five.
	Five?
	Wait, didn't you also have an issue with the looks rating thing or in your notes?
	I don't think I did, but I will say that I do believe the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
	So for kicks and giggles, go ahead.
	Let's do this scale because it is everywhere.
	Do you actually think you're a five, though?
	Just curious.
	You think you're a five?
	Yeah, I say five.
	I'm pretty comfortable with that.
	All right.
	Felicity?
	Six.
	By the way, guys, Felicity is a new.
	She's a card girl for an MMA organization.
	Good job, Felicity.
	High five.
	Boom.
	Thanks, guys.
	You're fired.
	So, anyways.
	Finally.
	Yeah.
	On to bigger and better things.
	Okay, so anyways.
	When do you rate yourself?
	Five.
	I give myself a five.
	Please.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	8.5, 8.5, 10, 10.
	You guys are going to draw my ire a little bit here.
	Oh, boy.
	Here, pull up that super chat.
	Fuck it.
	Why not?
	I don't want it lingering there.
	Felicity, you get to read it.
	I'm sorry.
	Chair one, is it pink?
	Oh, God.
	She liked it, but she laughed.
	She thought it was funny.
	Wow, you're participating in your own objectification.
	What the fuck?
	It's funny.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, it's funny that they chose to.
	Anybody want to answer it?
	Don't answer that.
	Just so you're not.
	Don't do it.
	I mean, just ignore it.
	I mean, 200 bucks for that.
	It's not even awesome.
	You know, but look, hey, big labia matter, by the way.
	I just want to say, I just want to say, you know, I actually, I don't think I've actually said this, okay?
	I think, you know, there's a lot of shaming, a lot of shaming happening if a woman has a large labia.
	But, you know, we don't talk enough about the color of the labia.
	And, you know, these men, they, oh, it's not pink.
	Oh, my God.
	Look, it's normal.
	It's normal.
	It's natural for women to have a bit of brown there, a little brown labia flesh.
	That's normal.
	Nothing doesn't change anything.
	It's the same, same pussy.
	Same pussy.
	And look, it's okay as a guy.
	You got your preferences, whatever, but I don't think we should be shaming women.
	They got a little brown, you know, you got the meat curtains, you know?
	Which I'm a fan of.
	This is crazy.
	I'm a fan.
	I only date women.
	With curtains.
	With curtains.
	Wow.
	And there's no such thing as too big.
	I'm looking for some Guinness World Record labia.
	You know what I mean?
	The fat poom poom.
	Like.
	You know.
	A butterfly.
	Butterfly.
	Yes.
	Get rid of this roasty meat curtain shit.
	Butterfly wings.
	Butterfly wings.
	I just want to have worn that.
	Huh?
	I want to have worn that.
	You're not supposed to say that's a good idea.
	Oh my god, Felicity.
	What's up?
	What's fucking with you?
	I told Felicity if a girl was being catty with her after last show, I said if a girl is being catty with you, you should just look her up and down and be like, I wouldn't have worn that.
	Yeah, well, you're the cattiest one here.
	You're okay.
	Shots fired, Brian.
	If you want to just destroy a woman, you just.
	I can do that.
	I can pretend to be gay.
	I can be like...
	Pretend?
	Ooh.
	I wouldn't have worn that.
	It's ugly on you.
	Anyways, whatever.
	All right.
	What the fuck were we talking about?
	I like your gay impressions.
	You should talk like a man.
	Talk like a man for a bit.
	That was all right.
	Oh, hi, God.
	What do you guys even talk about?
	For real.
	We talk about dominating the world, that sort of thing.
	Talk about the macro issues.
	Yes.
	Women focus on the micro issues.
	Yep.
	Inclusivity of labor.
	If you guys ever, you know, us guys, all we talk about is how to oppress women.
	We get together and we're like, how can we oppress these fucking women?
	We got like this conspiracy cult and we're just like, you know what?
	How can we push these women down?
	You're doing it.
	That's what we're talking about.
	We are part of those.
	You're like, let's make a podcast.
	We're not talking about community survival women.
	Yes, we have.
	And if we don't, straight to jail.
	It's actually part of the patriarchy.
	If you don't cat call enough women in a week, you get to know.
	I would believe that based off of home for real.
	Yeah, it's true.
	It's look it up.
	California Penal Code 42069.
	Yeah, he's the leader of that.
	Yep.
	If you don't cat call enough bitches, straight to jail.
	What's the next slur we can call women?
	Is that what you guys talk about?
	Strumpets.
	It's in the books.
	We're working on it.
	It's going to be.
	What is that?
	Make strumpet.
	It's an old word.
	Strumpets great again.
	Okay, wait.
	The rating system.
	Oh, the rating thing.
	Okay.
	What was the delusion?
	We had an 8.5, 8.5, 10, 10.
	Wow.
	Good for you.
	Okay, the two 10s here.
	Let's start with the two 10s.
	Then the 8.5s can get it.
	All right, we got a 10.
	We got a 10.
	We got a 10.
	Wow.
	You know what?
	Chat.
	I only get the most beautiful women.
	You know, I get the most beautiful women for my show.
	Every time.
	Yeah.
	You know, the only reason I don't get the Victoria's Secret models and, you know, the, you know, the Jessica Beals when they were like 20.
	Adriana Limas.
	They're just busy, you know?
	They probably are.
	are okay i'll ask this question why Why don't average women, why can't they just say they're average looking?
	You know what I mean?
	So are you saying that to them?
	Are you saying that they rated themselves wrong?
	You know what?
	What's your opinion?
	Yeah, what do you say?
	Yeah, what do you say?
	What are you trying to say?
	Spit it out.
	I'll just say average at best.
	I'll just leave it there.
	I'm going to say average at best.
	We've got a lot of average women tonight.
	No offense.
	It's okay.
	It's okay to be average.
	Most people are average.
	It's men's fault because I've had so many men tell me that I'm so perfect and so beautiful and that they want me so bad.
	So I guess it's really the men's fault.
	I'm convinced you're not going to be able to do that.
	You're right.
	Fuck the simps too.
	Fuck the sims.
	Don't gas y'all.
	No, I'm not average.
	I'm like, when a five is telling somebody.
	Dead ass when a five is telling it all.
	You're a five.
	You shouldn't be talking at all.
	When a five is speaking, the five.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so that's it.
	Yeah, so it doesn't, yeah, that doesn't really compute.
	That doesn't even compute because, for example, I think somebody who lives in, who's fucking homeless, could look at somebody who is trying to sell their shitty house for $20 million and the market says, no, that house is worth $500,000.
	And even though they're homeless, they could be like, that house is not worth $20 million.
	So in this case, regardless of my own level of looks, I don't see why I would need to be a 10, for example, to no, that's not what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is that it's like, I like, like, I could care.
	I don't care because if I was a certain amount of people, like, if it was somebody else, yes, I would, it wouldn't affect me more.
	I'd be like, oh, I'd be like, because that's never happened.
	But people that are like, that are more like you have visit me like that.
	And I'm, it's, and I think it's because I think security and insecurity, projection, it makes you feel like beautiful women telling beautiful women they're average.
	That's like what I think it comes down to.
	Exactly.
	That's why you're single, Brian.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Can we all agree?
	It's also internal hate for women.
	That's why you have this podcast.
	No, there's not really.
	You can't disagree that you have a 20.
	If you had an internal hate for women, we wouldn't be here.
	I mean, women are.
	The whole point is to have us here so he can argue with us because he doesn't like us.
	He challenges our he's challenging, like, okay, if you're going to feel this way, present facts and evidence.
	That's what he's been asking throughout the night.
	I guess that we're average.
	What have I said that would indicate I hate women?
	Yeah, I don't think you hate women.
	I just think you have like strong, you're strongly opinionated.
	I am strongly opinionated.
	Yeah, and then you're super like anti-feminist.
	And then that's where we confused.
	Just because you're anti-feminist doesn't mean you're anti-women.
	No, I know.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's where people can seek kick confusion about hating women.
	She was making some claim that I, you know, whatever.
	But I am a bit confused here.
	I'm a bit confused.
	Like why?
	Look, I'm confused by this idea that my opinion is less valid.
	No, it's just, it's not less valid.
	I just don't care for it.
	Like, it's just for me, it doesn't matter.
	Like, I don't care.
	But it's like, teaching.
	Like, you have your opinion.
	I'm not saying that.
	Beauty is in the middle.
	You don't need to care for my opinion, but you should at least attempt to contend with it with, you know, perhaps a rebuttal or present some sort of counter narrative here.
	In this case, I do.
	Do you think that these two women are accurate in their self-assessment?
	Yes.
	So, okay, just to be clear, you rated yourself an 8.5.
	She rated herself a 10.
	Would you say she and she are more attractive than you?
	Yes.
	Both of them.
	Yes.
	More attractive than you?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Are they more attractive than your friend here who also gave herself an 8.5?
	I think they're equal to her.
	They're equal to her.
	I would grade her a 10.
	Okay, well.
	So I would agree that they are the same.
	I suppose that makes sense.
	My issue here is, though, is throughout the course of this night, we've heard women say they want a guy who's six foot two.
	They want a guy who makes 10 to 20 million a year.
	You want a guy who makes a million dollars a year.
	What I'm seeing is a lot of, I want, I want, I want, and you think you deserve that thing, perhaps because you have a self-assessment of yourself that's incorrect.
	Or it's because this is what I've dealt.
	I've only dated tall men, so this is what I like.
	This is what we're used to.
	Why would we lower it with somebody shorter when I've only experienced tall men and I know this is what I like?
	Sure.
	I mean, I don't take that.
	I don't think that's the tall guy thing.
	Yeah, that's isn't my primary gripe.
	My primary gripe is the like, I want a guy who makes 10 million.
	I think a man, I think when I was saying that, I want somebody ambitious, just as ambitious as I am because I want to have 10 million.
	I want that to be my, and I know I will.
	So I want somebody to be on the same page as me.
	That's all I was trying to say.
	What if you don't make that money and the guy who's just as ambitious as you doesn't make all that money?
	Like, you do realize there's winners and losers.
	Not everybody's.
	Exactly.
	And I'm a winner.
	That's not how, that's not how it works.
	It is.
	No, it is.
	You get to calculate if I'm a winner?
	Yeah.
	What I'm saying, when I'm saying winners and losers, so your goal, your goal is make $10 million a year.
	So I'm not coming to you.
	My goal is my net worth.
	Okay, whatever.
	Whatever.
	It's still really unlikely.
	I'm not saying you're generally, I'm not like using it as just a generic insult.
	You're a loser.
	When I'm saying winners and losers, I'm talking about if your goal is I want to be a superstar music artist, I want to make X amount of money per year.
	This is what I want my net worth to be at 40.
	There's going to be winners and losers in that desire.
	Yeah.
	In this case, don't think you're going to be a winner.
	Maybe I'm a party poofer.
	Maybe I'm a buzzword.
	You definitely are, but it's fine.
	That isn't determined.
	But I would say this.
	You don't even know.
	I would say this to almost anybody.
	I would say this to anybody, almost anybody.
	Yeah, that's why I just have to prove you wrong and then I'll be back.
	And then you're going to be like, sorry, Marsha.
	For real.
	Like most people, you know, you look at certain people.
	Like, even and you'll pass up on actual winners, right?
	Like there are some people who are really successful that I would have pointed to and said, no way, there's no way they're going to make 20 mil, right?
	But it is a fair position to be like, yeah, like 99% of people.
	Yeah, no, I definitely can see why you don't, you don't know me.
	You don't know my mindset.
	You were going by soft statistics that 99% of people don't get this far.
	But it's not just, even if I knew your mindset, like if I sat down and talked to you for an hour and I came out of that, like, wow, that girl is a firecracker and her mindset is titanium.
	It's diamond.
	Life doesn't always work out that way.
	There's a lot of talented people.
	There's a lot of people with ambition who work hard, who do all that, who have a strong constitution.
	There's a component of luck with wealth.
	I agree.
	Not everybody, even no matter if they try hard, not everybody's going to make it.
	Trust me.
	Hollywood, the entertainment industry, is littered with talented, hardworking people that don't make it.
	There's a lucky component.
	There's a bunch of components.
	So I don't know.
	I agree.
	No, I agree.
	But I still believe in myself and I know what I'm doing.
	To be clear, I'm not saying, well, you should give up on your dream.
	Yeah, no, you should still work hard.
	You should still go after it.
	But I'm also going to sit here and be like, if I'm just looking at it statistically, most people don't achieve their goals.
	Most people work some bullshit job to make money.
	Most people are not chasing their living their dream life.
	Reality sits in.
	Reality sets in.
	30, 30 years old.
	You think the have you ever seen a 30, 40 year old guy working in a kitchen, fucking making pizzas every day?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if that's like his dream.
	No, it definitely isn't.
	That's Uber drivers.
	There's winners and there's losers.
	But you think Uber drivers, they're like, this is my dream.
	I've had Uber drivers in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s.
	It's not their dream to be fucking driving.
	And it's too late for them.
	Yeah.
	It's too late.
	Some people just don't chase their dreams, and that's why they're in that position.
	Even people who chase their dreams.
	And some people chase them and they never get to them.
	Like, that's the reality.
	Most people, though.
	Anyways, hold on.
	Looks.
	It all boils down to y'all kind of delusional.
	Y'all want a guy.
	You want a certain caliber of man.
	But like if you want a 1% guy, are you a 1% woman?
	And I'll tell you this.
	There's a lot more women.
	There's a lot of women who are not in the 1% that want a 1% guy.
	I'll repeat it again.
	Most women want a 1% guy.
	Most women will not get a 1% guy.
	That's just not enough 1% men to go around.
	Unless y'all just all collectively agree tomorrow.
	All right.
	These 1% guys are going to have 30 wives.
	These 1% guys are going to have 30 girlfriends.
	It ain't going to happen.
	It doesn't matter to me, though, at the end of the day.
	Because I do feel like I will end up with a woman just because of all these traits that men carry that we clash on.
	It's almost irrelevant to me.
	I guess the reason it's kind of important here is if you want both men and women to be satisfied, if women are continually chasing after a certain caliber of guy, like can I ask you a question?
	Do you think it's possible that there are women who chase after or want men out of their league?
	Is that possible?
	100%.
	It's possible, right?
	100%.
	And the reverse can be possible too.
	There are men who think they're hot shit.
	Maybe you know some.
	Some men who think they're hot shit who are trying to get some perfect, like a girl out of her league.
	Maybe you've experienced it yourself.
	Like genuinely, not just you're delusional about it, but like a guy stepped to you and you're like, nope.
	Sorry, buddy.
	You're not good looking enough.
	You don't possess the traits that I, whatever it is, right?
	I think the difference is, though, is that where women get into trouble with this is if I approach a girl and she's like out of my league, right?
	And look, it could be, I think people can bring more to the table than just their looks, but I think looks comes first.
	Looks is important.
	If I step to a 10 out of 10 chick, I'm getting instantly rejected.
	I'm not, I don't have any qualms with that.
	I accept it.
	I don't feel bad about it.
	It is what it is.
	That's the reality.
	Men can live in reality because we get slapped in the face figuratively immediately.
	I approach a girl.
	She doesn't ever contemplate.
	There's nothing in a woman's head who's better looking than me that thinks, you know what?
	I would never date this guy based on his looks.
	Like he's just not attractive enough to be in a relationship with.
	But you know what?
	I'll give him pussy a few times.
	Like I'll fuck him a few times.
	Women don't move like that.
	Men do move like that though.
	Men, men will be like, you know what?
	I would never be in a relationship with this girl just purely on her looks.
	But you know what?
	She really likes me and she'll give me pussy quick and she's gonna she's gonna soothe my ego.
	She's gonna be all over me.
	I'm out of her league, whatever.
	She's gonna be stoked to be with me.
	I'll fuck her once, twice, three times.
	I'll keep her around for a month, two months, three months.
	Shit.
	Some girls will be kept around for, and I'm not saying it's right, but I'm talking about reality here.
	It happens.
	Yeah, and that's why these women, oh, why won't he commit?
	Oh, you know, I just want to, you know, I'm not ready.
	He's not that into you.
	He's not that into you.
	They want to use them.
	I've heard of that.
	He's not that into you.
	Yeah, they, and look, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just looking at reality.
	And so what can happen is, for example, if I could just like have a string of really attractive women who just want to fuck me.
	Like they're, you know what, Brian, I'll just fuck you a couple times, but I'll never be in a relationship with you.
	That all of a sudden makes it less appealing for me to settle for the girl who maybe she's not as attractive, but she'll be in a relationship with me.
	So it's like, and the guy, the men, this is wrong, they dangle the carrot on a stick.
	They dangle the carrot on the stick.
	They say, they dangle the potential of a relationship or commitment or this.
	It's wrong.
	They shouldn't do it.
	But they do do it because they want the pussy.
	They want the enthusiastic, easy pussy.
	They want it.
	And so you'll be chasing after these really good looking guys who just want you for sex.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's wrong.
	Well, okay, you're not chasing, but whatever.
	You're fucking these dudes, and they're...
	I'm celibate two years.
	Not just you.
	I think you're still now.
	In general.
	In general.
	And it's like, and then you've gotten the taste of the good life.
	Like, imagine you lived in a mansion.
	You lived in a mansion and you heated floors and it was fucking beautiful and the view was amazing.
	And then now you rent a condo in Reseda.
	That's what's happening with women.
	You get a taste of a certain caliber of guy.
	You never, you don't get relationship.
	You'll get a taste of the good life.
	And then it's really hard to go down to where your actual league is.
	Like if I was living in the mansion, all these amenities, whatever, I had a heated pool.
	I had a sauna.
	I had heated floors.
	It was beautiful.
	There was a view of the city and the ocean.
	And then I had a downgrade and I had to have a roommate, like a person who lived in the room with me.
	Even just that, even whatever, you don't live in the mansion.
	Let's say you just had your own bedroom and bathroom.
	Do you know how fucking hard it is to go from that to sharing a bathroom?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	No, I 100% get what you're saying.
	Like I'm never.
	I just can't relate, but I'm not sure.
	I could never understand what you're saying.
	Me, I'm never going back to sharing a bathroom.
	I'm not sharing a bathroom with some random roommate.
	Yeah.
	I've had the good life.
	In my past, I shared a bathroom.
	I had roommates.
	I'm not going back.
	Fuck that.
	Nobody's shitting on my toilet.
	Okay, fuck those people.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Does that make sense?
	I don't know.
	I don't know if that's I've met, I've witnessed that.
	Yeah, no, I, that's definitely what happens.
	It never happened to me, but I'm saying I can't relate.
	But it's true.
	No, it is.
	And this is why I agree.
	Like, and it's really sad.
	Like, men will sleep with women that they're not all that attracted to.
	Yes, that they don't want.
	But they'll sleep with them.
	Yes.
	And then the women will like create this whole thing.
	I think a lot of the problems is that women are like just easily in love.
	And a lot of women create fantasies off after, because women get attracted from sex.
	Men, it's the opposite.
	They like kind of like, they're now turned off.
	Now they're like, they're not as close to you now after having sex.
	Unless you guys have been like, like, you know, like forming a relationship.
	But if it's just like some random thing, usually like when a woman has sex with a man randomly like that, they start liking him more.
	And then the man will stop liking them.
	And then so I think women during these times, they just start like creating this fantasy in their head.
	And then like, and then, of course, their standards start changing.
	And now they're like, okay, like, this is what I received.
	Like, I only deserve this and this.
	And I can see the correlation in that.
	Yeah.
	I've literally heard guys say she just isn't attractive enough because my guy friends, I'll be like, why would you want to be with her?
	And like they're like, she's just not, yeah.
	She's too desperate.
	They don't like that.
	Exactly.
	The great filter used to be marriage.
	Like people would wait, you know, or even not, but you'd wait like longer periods of time or whatever.
	And look, it is what it is.
	Society's changed.
	But like if a guy would not like if the threshold was marriage, like men would then filter out those women he wasn't interested in.
	100%.
	But so now the onus is on women to filter out correctly because now the sort of status quo with dating is like at least the more, I mean, people have different, you know, whatever, but the expectation is like have sex relatively early on.
	So it's like, okay, well, I don't know.
	Also, women will operate differently.
	Like, even if a woman doesn't want to just have casual sex for her to have casual sex, the guy has to be really hot.
	Like, even if the woman's like not that into one-night stands or like just hooking up quick, they will make exceptions if the guy's really hot.
	Yeah.
	But men, it's kind of almost the opposite.
	Like, if a man's like trying to get casual sex, he's going to go with like a like, yeah.
	Yeah, fine shit.
	Like, give me a girl who has like, has a pussy.
	Yeah, literally.
	You know, so yeah.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Sad.
	So sad.
	So sad.
	You're so super gross.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah.
	Just save yourself.
	Just be honest to her and tell her she's not.
	Yeah.
	Just don't, yeah.
	Just literally let her know how you're feeling.
	Like, I'm not attracted to you.
	Just don't have sex.
	Just install of it.
	But also, women deal.
	I don't know.
	And then the other thing is that these women are like perpetually perma, never attracted to men in their league.
	So it's like, if I was just fucking supermodels, but none of them wanted to actually date me, but like all these supermodels or like really attractive girls or whatever were like, you know what, Brian, I'll give you a pussy once.
	I'll fuck you.
	You know what?
	I'm going to string you along, Brian, but I'm really fucking hot.
	Whatever.
	I would like the girl who actually, oh, Brian, I want to date you.
	I want to be in a relationship.
	I'd be like, I would be sexually dissatisfied.
	I would not be attracted to her because I had a taste of the good life.
	You know what I mean?
	I like ugly men.
	Okay.
	The panderer is real.
	Okay.
	I like ugly men too.
	I just like that they're tall.
	I just like tall men.
	I don't care if they're ugly.
	The rating thing.
	I like when men actually like me.
	100%.
	And I care.
	All right.
	Who here wants to date an average man?
	Show of hands.
	Define average.
	Define average.
	Average looks, average personality, average height, average.
	Everything.
	You took it away after average person.
	I would be average.
	Personality cannot be average.
	I would like mine.
	I'd be fine with average personal.
	It just depends on if we have similar interests and mesh.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, that's kind of what it was for my fiancé.
	I've met him at my job.
	Not the funeral home, but I used to bake desserts and he was a line cook.
	Like, I like dripping.
	I like people that can, I like to dress for a living.
	Like, I'm a stylist.
	All my friends are stylists.
	So I want a man that can match my swagger.
	So that's just not average man.
	Okay.
	I think as long as they align with morals and values, then the other things that are typically looked at as average, average height, average career, average salary.
	As long as you are aligning on the core beliefs and the fundamentals to be a good foundation for a long-lasting relationship, then I think the average is fine.
	So I'm not going to ask for a millionaire.
	That'd be nice, you know, ladies, that'd be nice.
	Let's just say that.
	But I'm okay with my salary range.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Let's see here.
	I guess just for the 10, the 10, the 8.5, 8.5, what do you think the average rating would be?
	So that's your own rating, right?
	But what would the average rating be if 1,000 men rated you?
	Starting with you.
	I don't know.
	Just guess.
	Would it be 10, 9, 8, 7?
	3?
	10.
	Yeah, 10.
	10?
	You like genuinely?
	Like, that's not your rating.
	I mean, I just can't give like another genuine answer.
	So that's why I just go with 10.
	Because I don't, how am I supposed to think like what every guy's thinking or know that or know what exactly they want out of a woman?
	Can I ask you a question?
	Is it possible that any of the men of a thousand would rate you less than the 10?
	Yeah.
	Like, is it possible?
	Yeah, it's possible.
	Okay.
	So what if I told you that the majority of the men might rate you less than the 10?
	Could it be less than 10 then?
	I mean, under what you think, if you're thinking for all men.
	So is that like, is this the cope answer, or is this like actually you think a thousand men on the average would be 10?
	I'm going to say seven just because that guy said that not to pick it.
	Okay.
	I'd just like to make sure that you're not.
	Don't you think you would be if you're like a 10, don't you think we'd be married?
	Who says she?
	No, because I'm too good for everyone.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Oh, it's not me.
	It's them.
	Exactly.
	I don't know.
	Everybody else has out of 10,000 men, they would all rate young Megan Fox a 10.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, I don't.
	Yeah.
	I don't even think you have a you show them like a supermodel.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	A thousand men, what do they rate you on average?
	I can bring it down to like an eight and a half of nine.
	Like I can bring it down, but I'm not gonna make it below.
	8.5?
	Hey, don't discredit the acne right now.
	I just got out of a relationship that was really stressful.
	So you're on it.
	Oh, that has nothing to do with us.
	It has nothing to do with acne.
	All right.
	What do you think a thousand men average?
	Like seven and a half.
	What do you think?
	Oh, what they would rate me?
	on average.
	I'm just going based off of like everyday going out into the world.
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	Eight?
	Okay, there we go.
	Eight.
	You say the rating thing is destructive, though.
	Again, I kind of already laid out my position on this, but I think it's destructive when you have a bunch of women who can't like make a somewhat accurate self-assessment of how they look, and then they're going to think, like, would you agree that if somebody can somebody be delusional?
	Like, is it possible to be delusional?
	Possibly.
	If they said, you know, I'm the best looking person in the world and majority of people are hideous compared to me.
	If it's not coming from a place of loving yourself and coming more of a place of, I think I'm better than everyone else.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't know necessarily why that. would matter so much.
	Because I think really quick, I think somebody can be delusional and they can be like, no, but I think everybody else is also really pretty and they're not like egotistical about it in the sense that I'm better looking than other people.
	Or they can also be like, I'm a 10, but they're not.
	And then they can be like, and I'm hotter than all these other bitches.
	I'm not talking about women.
	They obviously think they're better looking than certain guys if they're being incredibly picky because I don't like, because they're doing the same thing that I feel like guys are doing with the rating scale.
	I don't think anyone should be rated.
	We're all beautiful.
	We're all creations of the Lord.
	Well, I mean, but that's just demonstrably not true.
	There are people, like, do you agree that some people, excuse me, some people are more, regardless of rating, some people are more attractive than others?
	Well, it depends on who it is.
	What do you think about Brad Pitt?
	Is he really attractive?
	I did.
	I don't know him well enough.
	You don't know?
	Have you ever seen Brad Pitt?
	If you're going by the stuff that mean, vain people go by that really narrow scale, according to the conventional attractiveness scale, I guess.
	And the conventional attractiveness scales confers pretty privilege and benefits to those who are attractive.
	But I think for me, and this is the issue I have sometimes with trying to relate to some of the dating subjects brought up on here, I kind of operate a little differently.
	For me to think someone's attractive, I have to get to know them.
	Because I've met some people I initially thought were attractive and then they said something.
	Yeah, I can't just look at someone and just say, you're hot.
	I want to be with you forever.
	I get that attraction is multivaried.
	Like if we're talking about total attraction, but there is just purely physical looks.
	Like, for example, there might be somebody who's like a massive piece of shit, but I can still be like, you know what?
	That girl is beautiful, but she's also a terrible person.
	I can't.
	It just, it's the whole deal or nothing.
	Yeah, the totality of the attractiveness, sure.
	But also, and if you just, okay, I'm not even going to engage just because I. I've just met a lot of people who might be $13,200.
	You've got a night full of fives on average.
	None of them close to a seven.
	This person's definitely an incel, and that's why they're commenting and paying $200.
	Actually, I know that guy.
	He has a huge penis, and he fucks bitches all day, every day.
	Have you seen it?
	I'm sure he does, and I'm sure you know.
	So anyways, moving on.
	I just meet a lot of people who might not be conventionally attractive, but they're really beautiful, and I'm glad I've met them.
	And that's just what I mean.
	Okay, but I think we shouldn't always appeal necessarily to like the outlier case or whatever.
	I acknowledge that attraction is not strictly just looks, but when we're talking about just looks, then we're talking about just looks.
	I guess I can't separate just looks from someone's entire personality or being.
	So just to be clear, you would be equally attracted to, I don't even know if you can make this determination, two people with the same exact personality, all the positive traits that you like.
	One of them is but ugly, and one of them is the most handsome man ever.
	The attraction you feel to these two people is exactly the same.
	It would depend on, I'd have to interact with them.
	They're identical personalities.
	Identical personality.
	That's one of the things I've discovered trying to make friends as an adult.
	Sometimes I meet people I have everything in common with on paper.
	Wait, can I ask you a question?
	Yes.
	How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
	Honestly, if I didn't have breakfast this morning, I did, but I might feel.
	Okay, you can't engage with hypotheticals.
	All right.
	No, it's not.
	It's not part of the real world, hypotheticals.
	It is part of the real world because...
	Well, I can make a hypothetical about anything.
	What if you were stranded on a desert island with like two of the most hideous men you've ever seen?
	I wouldn't fuck them, but okay, go ahead.
	Oh, I was about to ask you if you would, and you can't say no.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	That's the kind of hypotheticals you're setting up.
	That's the way for her viewpoints and how she sees things.
	I think she's relating your questions and like convert, like, like this is how she feels with your questions.
	Wait, wait, no, no.
	Give me the hypothetical.
	You just give me, you just, not just me, but you give a lot of ridiculous hypotheticals that never happen.
	Okay, what's your hypothetical that you wanted to put?
	I just threw something.
	Okay, finish it though.
	If I'm on the other side of the.
	If you're on an island with two guys that you're not attracted to at all, which one would you sleep with?
	And you can't say neither.
	Hold on.
	Whoa, that removes the free will, I guess.
	Well, you sometimes set up questions like that.
	You're like, you can't say this or you can't say that.
	So, but I just, the hypotheticals sometimes are just a bit ridiculous.
	That's my point.
	Wait, hold on, but it would be, so, no, the comparison you're making does not map on to the framework of the hypotheticals I've given.
	Some of them, yeah.
	It reminds me of like when I was in junior high, I became a vegetarian, and people would ask me all the time, Emily, if you were stranded on a desert island with nothing but pigs, would you eat one?
	Like, when am I going to get stranded on a desert island with nothing but pigs?
	Never.
	It's a hypothetical.
	Well, it's dumb.
	Yeah, it's not logical.
	It is logical.
	Who do you know has gotten stranded on a desert island with pigs?
	Do you know what a hypothetical is?
	You can make anything a hypothetical, no matter how ridiculous it is.
	That's my point.
	But the point of the hypothetical is to test the logic.
	What if the hypothetical is illogical?
	It's not illogical.
	I think there's some hypotheticals and be very illogical, and you're just asking it to be difficult.
	It's possible that a hypothetical could be illogical, but none of the hypotheticals I've presented tonight are illogical.
	So did she answer my hypothetical, by the way, or did she just do this obfuscation thing?
	I don't even remember what the hypothetical was.
	Oh my God.
	She was saying, well, I need to like the person to be attracted to them.
	The hypothetical was you have two people and they have.
	No, she didn't answer.
	It just is going to depend on how well I mesh with one.
	They're identical.
	Their personality is identical, but one is but ugly and one is beautiful.
	I don't think, but I've met people I've had everything in common with on paper.
	You literally can't engage with hypotheticals.
	There's nothing logically inconsistent with this hypothetical.
	I don't know.
	The baked-in assumption when I say that they're identical personality is that you would get along with both of them.
	You'd get along just as equally well.
	So then you're presented with the variable of one is super ugly and one is really good looking.
	Which one would you be more attracted to?
	I guess them equally then.
	But you said that in order for you to determine feel physical attraction for somebody, you need to like their personality first or some shit.
	I guess I'd be caught in a love triangle.
	Oh god, man.
	Holy shit.
	When you guys bring up these freaking ridiculous takes, don't be upset that we go fucking late because I've been in a loop with you guys and I don't know.
	Can't believe I have to get into the weeds and explain, like break down elementary level, a just super easy hypothetical that can just be answered.
	Oh, I'd take this guy.
	I'd take even if you take the ugly guy, at least that's an answer, right?
	Well, I don't agree with a hypothetical.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What's your opinion?
	Okay, anybody else want to take a crack at answering the hypothetical?
	Is it really that hard?
	I would go with a more attractive person.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I don't even understand that.
	The logic there.
	It's like even if you're like, I think it's for somebody.
	I don't know what her sexual preference is, but like pansexuals don't care about how someone looks.
	They literally do not care.
	Talking about sapiosexuals.
	Oh, sapiosexuals.
	So yeah, so like I like some people literally actually don't have an attraction.
	Like that's like not something that like, you know, it's like not everybody's like that.
	It's like a small percentage of humans, but there are humans that are like that.
	And she could be like that.
	Like she could be like not caring about looks at all.
	Like we don't know how her husband looks.
	I'm not saying he's ugly, but I'm saying her fiancé.
	But you know, she just.
	Right, but even if it was the case for her, this wouldn't map on to the broader general reality that looks absolutely how about this I'll blast through this one.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time?
	Yes.
	20 years time?
	No surgeries.
	No surgeries, no weight loss.
	Or weight gain, I guess.
	I don't know.
	20, so I'd be like 40 something.
	43.
	Well, my mom, like my mom's a MILF, so she low-key, like her prime.
	Her prime was like 40, because like her cheekbones, she just lost all her baby fat, and she's like, you know, snatched.
	But I don't know, like, I feel like my body would definitely be better now than like when I'm 40.
	So maybe not.
	Okay.
	Is there something, a bug or something?
	I don't know.
	Why is everybody just looking up?
	Is there a bug?
	There is.
	Right there.
	Is it a bird?
	Please.
	It's not a bird, is it?
	It's a spider.
	It's a spider.
	A spider?
	No way.
	Oh, it's just right here.
	It's right there.
	Oh, it's tiny.
	Cute.
	Oh, my God.
	You know what's funny?
	Women pick the bear over the man, but they freak the fuck out if they see like a spider that you can crush with minimal effort.
	Anyways, it's creepy.
	Better looking in 10 years' time?
	No.
	And you're 32, were you better looking at 22?
	No.
	Better looking now?
	No.
	I thought I was better looking.
	I think the only time I'll look the best is when I'm a skeleton.
	So.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for that.
	I think I'm going to be in my prime in 10 years.
	So 33, better looking.
	Yeah.
	I don't think I'll be better looking at 43.
	25, 35, better looking?
	Yes.
	45?
	Better looking?
	Yes.
	55?
	Yes, I work out.
	So I'm going to take care of my body.
	No surgery needed.
	Period.
	Yes.
	When's your peak then?
	Ooh, I honestly don't know.
	I would say like a woman's peak would be in her 30s, possibly, but I don't know.
	I haven't made it there yet, so better, better looking 90s, 95.
	I'm gonna be the granny that you want to fuck.
	Period.
	All right.
	Okay.
	It sounds like better looking 10, 20, 30, 40 years.
	Sina, better looking 10 years?
	Yes.
	20 years?
	Yes.
	30?
	No.
	Okay, so peak when?
	20s to 30.
	But will you be better looking at 39 versus now at 19?
	No.
	But better looking at 29.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	31, better looking in 10 years' time?
	I would say yes, the way my mom ages.
	And then as time has gone on, I have taken better care of myself.
	Better looking, so better looking 41?
	51, better looking?
	Yeah, and then I'll probably stop there.
	Okay, and then are you better looking now at 31 or are you better looking at 21?
	Surprisingly, now, because I was not really taking care of myself at 21.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You're 30 better looking at 40?
	Probably not.
	No.
	And then better looking now or better looking at 20?
	I'm better looking now, actually.
	Okay.
	And I shared that picture with you guys of weight loss or whatever?
	Weight loss and just a question for you, though.
	If you were your current weight at 20, would you be better looking at 20?
	Or better looking now?
	No, I was actually skinnier when I was 20.
	Oh, wait.
	Yeah.
	Wait a minute.
	The weight loss was actually within the past few years.
	But wait, so you were better looking at 20?
	No.
	No, I was skinnier than I am now.
	I did not take care of myself.
	But still better looking now.
	At 30.
	No, I'm not.
	I'm just clarifying.
	Weight-wise, I definitely look better now.
	Like, I just think I'm just gonna be.
	Because you gained weight.
	I gained a good weight.
	I'm a good weight now.
	I see.
	You were too small.
	I'm still myself.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I see.
	Yes, yes.
	I see.
	I see.
	What the fuck is that, bruv?
	What is that?
	A spider.
	Is that a spider?
	No, it looks like a bar.
	Oh, like a bug.
	Oh, it's right here.
	You could try it.
	I don't know, whatever.
	Who cares?
	Whatever.
	It's a fly.
	Yeah, it's a fine.
	Good times.
	I was home.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	We have put you all through AI.
	Let's do it.
	BGW, BTW.
	I don't think.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Wait, through what?
	Through AI?
	An AI filter.
	Check it out.
	What is that?
	Let's do this.
	He's going to make us.
	Oh!
	Wait!
	What?
	Oh, shit!
	Still slaying.
	Yes.
	Where did you get that picture?
	That's you right now.
	I sent a private investigator to your house.
	Wait, that kind of looks like my grandma.
	Abuelita.
	Abuela.
	No, literally.
	Are you Hispanic?
	I'm Hispanic.
	Well, I'm four things, actually.
	So you're going to be in a Buela, Abuelita.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But at least I can solidify my standard.
	You know what, though?
	They kind of draw.
	I'm a song that curses people.
	You know, that first photo is very dry.
	So beautiful.
	Yeah.
	No, it's okay.
	I know I'm hideous enough to make anyone vomit.
	Oh my gosh.
	Nobody needs to stop.
	No, you need to stop that.
	That's right now.
	My gosh, Marshi.
	I'm not going to look like that.
	I mean, I don't have that many wrinkles.
	That's the future.
	That's the future.
	That's what it holds.
	Why are you doing it like that?
	I know.
	But I don't have that many wrinkles.
	Next.
	Period.
	Period.
	Period, Granny, period.
	Yes.
	That's the hot granny.
	The middle one looks crazy this one.
	Oh boy, here we go, Sina.
	Ready, Sina?
	Oh my gosh.
	Next.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I have like four of these already.
	Oh, my God.
	You just need to compare all four of those.
	You've become a white woman over time.
	Look like a hobbit.
	Okay.
	You need to redo that one.
	When you're older.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh.
	Period.
	You know.
	Period.
	Oh, my God.
	You can't.
	Next.
	Oh, my God.
	Marian.
	You know what?
	You look like our future female president.
	No, for real.
	Oh, thank you.
	You look like you could be a politician.
	Yeah.
	It's given.
	Yeah, it's skipping Elizabeth Warren.
	So you're saying that I'm really good at like exaggerating and lies and everything as a politician.
	Thanks for watching.
	I identify as conservative over here with more than integrity.
	You can be Melania, I guess.
	The first lady.
	You're going to be the first lady.
	I'll take that.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Of a based Republican president.
	Felicity.
	Next.
	Oh, damn.
	He is so cute.
	That's really ugly.
	Next.
	That is so cute.
	Oh, cute.
	Oh, yikes.
	Oh, damn.
	They did me dirty.
	You look like a drink.
	You're literally Santa.
	You look really happy in that first place.
	Thank you.
	You do.
	I don't know where the fuck they got that.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Thank you.
	And then we gender swapped all of you guys.
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I better be a better man.
	Do you want to ask us if we think we look better?
	Oh, yeah.
	Or no.
	Because I know you've done the behavior.
	Yeah, it's just would you date the male version of you?
	Okay.
	I'll tell you.
	All right.
	Ready?
	Wow.
	Harry!
	Show them again.
	Show them again.
	I want to see it again.
	I'll pull it up.
	I gotta say.
	That's actually probably even I said loud, okay?
	All right.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Would you date the they did some favors?
	Oh, yes, I would.
	Would you date that guy?
	Yes.
	That's fine.
	Do you prefer the beard or beard for favor?
	I look like my uncle.
	That looks like my uncle.
	Oh, my gosh.
	They really, the hair is on the hair.
	Oh, yeah.
	They value it.
	That's like a 10.
	I'm not going to lie.
	That was a 10 out of 10 hair job.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh, yes.
	Whoa, who's doing these?
	They're very nice.
	They're too nice, I think.
	Oh, for real.
	Look at this green.
	Well, at least I'd know what male Emily or Emilio would have in common with me and how our personalities would function.
	What would you date?
	Would you date him?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Oh!
	I would not date him.
	Your friend loves it.
	Oh, my God.
	I would not date him.
	You wouldn't date him?
	I don't even like his family's mouth.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, gosh.
	I mean, that's the male version of you.
	The hair is good.
	The hair's fucking dope.
	Great haircut.
	Fine.
	I thought he'd be short.
	He looks a little.
	He looks like fungi male.
	He does.
	Wouldn't no, he's not my attire.
	What are you?
	I'm Guatemalan.
	And I don't, I don't really like dating my like full Guatemalan.
	From what I know.
	Full Latina.
	Okay.
	Sweet.
	All right, next.
	Ooh. Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I would.
	Yeah.
	I think I would see.
	Okay.
	There it is again.
	Oh, yeah.
	I like the beard.
	Would you eat him?
	She said she would.
	He looks like the guy who just murdered his underage girlfriend.
	Oh, no.
	No, no.
	Maybe in the second one.
	Come on, bro.
	That's the guy that just chopped up his bro.
	That's crazy.
	Well, look, allegedly, we don't know if it was him.
	We don't know if it was him yet, right?
	David.
	We do know.
	Yeah.
	Is he arrested yet?
	No, it's crazy.
	Like, what more evidence do they need?
	I think he's on the run.
	I think he's on the run, probably.
	No.
	What?
	Yikes.
	One more time.
	Why am I white?
	Oh, my God.
	Hey, do you have a brother?
	I do have a brother.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	I do have a brother.
	Does he look like that?
	No.
	Wait, does your brother post online?
	No.
	Wait, is he younger or older?
	Younger.
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to say, I'm always curious: like, what do the brothers look like?
	They look like me.
	I could show you my brother.
	Yeah, my brother.
	Well, I feel like we'd have to ask their permission and be like, hey, can we pull up your shit?
	I wouldn't just, you know, whatever.
	You have a brother, Felicity?
	I was saying I'll show you off camera.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Hurt skit.
	Yeah, you guys can show me off camera just for my own gayness or whatever.
	All right, next.
	Come on.
	I mean, his hair is nice.
	Yeah.
	Would you date him?
	Why is he?
	Why did they chop his teeth like that?
	Like, that's clearly a good one.
	Like, yeah.
	I'm sorry, they did you wrong.
	Oh, I know why.
	It's okay.
	Like, I'm not moved.
	Mine are always bad, too.
	Would you date him?
	I honestly think, like, he just needed better teeth.
	Yeah.
	Wait, Cena, would you date?
	No.
	Any girls willing to date?
	No.
	Yeah, you don't.
	Senior?
	I guess is his name.
	Mine on that.
	No.
	I think he would look not like that as a guy.
	I think he'd look better.
	Yeah, for sure.
	I wanted to forward it.
	So here's my breakdown for Cena.
	If Cena was a dude, so she'd be like this little nerdy Asian dude, but with a massive cock, like huge penis.
	Why would I be nerdy?
	I don't know.
	You'd just be like a nerd.
	You're kind of shy.
	No, just because of you.
	You're kind of like shy.
	I'd see you.
	Oh, sorry.
	You'd be like a fuckboy.
	You're quiet, like, soft-spoken.
	I like that one.
	You'd be a fuckboy.
	You'd be a fuckboy.
	And you would join a frat and you'd be like, yo, babes.
	Yeah, yeah, I like that.
	Okay, there you go.
	All right, next.
	Oh, wait, that looks like that.
	It looks like it's like your twin.
	Like your twin.
	That's like your twin.
	Do your brothers look like that?
	Oh, no.
	My brothers are way handsomer.
	Like, more handsome.
	Dude, it looks like Felicity, that Mormon guy.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Don't, yeah.
	It looks like Q. Kind of.
	A little bit.
	I don't know.
	I think he's.
	Would you date him?
	Would you date?
	No?
	No.
	Really?
	He's a good-looking guy.
	He does look Mormon.
	Whoever's doing these, by the way, stepped up.
	Looks better with this.
	A little bit.
	I feel like they stepped it up a little bit.
	I'm just not a facial person.
	You only date black guys or what?
	What's up?
	Do you only date black guys?
	No, my ex-husband was Hispanic.
	Oh, so.
	You only date Latina guys?
	No, no.
	We were talking about the girl.
	Are you Latina?
	Latina?
	Latina?
	No, I actually have Indian, German, Welsh, Irish, and a couple other things.
	That's dope.
	I love that for you.
	Are you like what tribe?
	Jumesh.
	Moroccan.
	Apache.
	Huh?
	Moroccan.
	Moroccan.
	It's a smaller tribe in Virginia.
	Yeah, it's not.
	Next.
	Yikes.
	What?
	It's a little better, sort of.
	No, that's not a little better.
	That is probably the worst one I've ever seen.
	That's actually pretty bad, Felicity.
	That doesn't even look like me.
	Yeah, it doesn't look like he would be a little bit more.
	No, he doesn't have a beard on him.
	Yo, chat, does Felicity have the crazy eyes?
	He looks Middle Eastern.
	Chat, does Felicity have crazy eyes?
	Like, when I look at this picture of you, Felicity, I think.
	They're like, oh, they're like, like, doggy eyes.
	Like, yeah, like tappy eyes.
	There's an evil.
	No.
	Look at those eyes.
	Look deep into the chats all saying yes.
	Maybe being honored, but not evil.
	Excuse me.
	Sorry.
	Excuse me.
	Honor, Felicity.
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	50% cray.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Well, I've already said it.
	I am crazy.
	It is true.
	It is true.
	Evil.
	Very.
	Anyways, final.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Why are you bad?
	I know.
	That's really weird.
	Ew.
	No.
	Why are you looking to a younger girl?
	Find me the under.
	Nick, scroll.
	Ew.
	Find me the good one.
	Why are you so bad?
	What?
	Ew.
	It's crazy.
	That other one is so much better.
	And I feel like it's more accurate, you know?
	It's a little more accurate.
	I would date the underage.
	No, You know the good one.
	You know the good one.
	I would date the good one.
	They should do a gender swap thing with young Brian.
	That would be more accurate.
	You're right.
	They definitely should.
	Can you guys do that?
	Thank you.
	This is the one.
	Oh, my God.
	She has crazy eyes.
	She doesn't look good.
	No, there was another one where she had a lot of people.
	I think that would be better.
	Pull up the other one.
	Yeah, I'd date her.
	That's you.
	I'd date her.
	Anyways.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Let's see here.
	If I was a chick, I would be killing it.
	Oh, my God.
	Good talk, guys.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	Oh, I wanted to show Nick pull up the looks tab in the Discord.
	And I added a fuck ton.
	I added a lot.
	So I want you with my hypnotic voice.
	Go to the looks tab.
	And then you're going to pull up.
	The first one is going to be the one with the one that triggered everybody like two shows ago.
	It's like the girl with the braids.
	You got it?
	All right.
	So when we're talking about beauty, I know some of you were saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	Looks are subjective.
	Like, who here thinks looks are strictly subjective?
	I think they are, but also.
	Strictly subjective.
	No, not strictly.
	So I think that looks are subjective, but they're not strictly subjective.
	I think there are objective components to beauty.
	Yes.
	So I want to ask you guys, which one looks is more attractive?
	Be honest.
	Beyond.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	The right one.
	Left or right?
	Going around the table.
	Left or right, which is more attractive.
	Be honest.
	Right?
	Right?
	Do these women know you have their photo?
	Oh, my God.
	These are stuck images.
	Yeah, but if they see that and you say that one of them's ugly, it might be really bad.
	Okay.
	I'm not, I didn't say any of them are ugly.
	I'm asking you which one's more attractive.
	You've done this before, and you're just trying to get someone to pick, say, one woman's ugly and one's not.
	No, I'm not trying to.
	You don't need to ever call anybody ugly.
	I'm asking which one's more attractive.
	More attractive.
	Yeah.
	You can.
	Two people can be beautiful, but one of them can be more attractive.
	Maybe they're equally beautiful.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	What the fuck do you think?
	I'm not going to comment on it.
	I've been there and it's not fun.
	So.
	All right.
	What about you?
	The one on the right.
	Right.
	The one on the left looked like my ex, so I got to go with the right.
	He was a bitch.
	That's crazy.
	The woman looked your ex.
	Yes.
	Boyfriend looked like a woman.
	Yeah.
	An aboriginal woman.
	Man, even then.
	It's the whole gorilla face.
	That was the gorilla face.
	The right.
	What do you think?
	I should have done hand raises because I feel like it's the domino effect.
	The sisterhood.
	Which one?
	Right.
	No, you're not rating.
	It's just which one's more attractive.
	She said the one on the right.
	I said the one on the right.
	Oh, the right.
	Sorry.
	The right.
	Right.
	Felicity?
	The one on the right.
	Okay, one on the right.
	Now, I've been accused of this being racist, blah, blah, blah.
	So I'm going to present to you just to show that it's not about race or anything like that.
	Nick, pull up the one below it, and then we're going to just tap.
	There's a whole bunch we'll pull up.
	Okay, so you have an ugly white woman.
	I mean, this is a high.
	That doesn't seem ugly white.
	Does that have a woman?
	A good-looking black woman.
	The one on the right.
	Anybody think the one on the left is better?
	No?
	Okay.
	Next one over, Nick.
	Next one.
	Can I just arrow it?
	I don't think he'll let you.
	I think you have to like, it's fine.
	You leave in Discord.
	It's fine.
	Yo.
	Okay, you have a white woman on the left, a black woman on the right, Stacy Dash, beautiful black woman.
	Right?
	Okay.
	Next.
	Haley Bailey.
	Hey, I think that one, that girl might have some.
	Yeah, that woman's commented on her looks online because people give her off shit and it's something she was born with.
	Hey, it is what it is, but let's live an objective reality here.
	There's universality.
	Move on to the next, Nick.
	Stacy Dash, I'm not going to lie.
	I kind of sound like crushed on Stacy Dash.
	Beautiful woman, beautiful black woman.
	Do you know who Anakia is?
	No idea.
	Exile that.
	And then, oh, this is, scroll down a little bit.
	Here, let's do it with men too.
	I'm not, you know.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, no, no.
	Tab over, tab over.
	Okay, we got white guy.
	Oh, what the fuck?
	Why isn't it?
	There we go.
	Tab over to next.
	This guy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then do the one below it.
	Okay.
	And then Brad Pitt.
	Okay.
	Everybody wants to call me a fucking racist whenever.
	Oh, comparing Luis Guzman to Brad Pitt.
	You're such a racist.
	I'll give you, I'll do it the other way.
	I'll be charitable to the black guy.
	I'll show you an ugly picture of a white guy, whatever.
	Good talk.
	Okay.
	Nothing?
	Is it just crickets here?
	All right.
	Also, I wanted to do the age thing really quick, Nick.
	So we're going to look at.
	Look, the reality is, as you get older, you become less good looking.
	Scroll up to Tarot Read, Nick, on that same tab.
	I'm not sure if I know who that is.
	It says Tarot Read.
	It's above the guy, Tom.
	Yeah.
	All right, we're going to just tab through these.
	Next, next, next, next.
	This is like 20, 25 years.
	Next, next, next, next.
	Oh, is that it?
	Okay, let's do it.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So sorry, I should pull up the guy, Tom.
	The first feather.
	Yeah, pull it up.
	All right.
	Can you click on it?
	See if it goes bigger?
	Yeah, sure.
	Tab over.
	Will it let you use the click, click, just click, click, click.
	Tab over.
	Okay.
	20 years later, let's see.
	Look, he's not a bad looking guy.
	He's not a bad-looking guy.
	He's not as good looking.
	Yeah, look, he's a good-looking guy, even when he's older.
	He's probably most women are going to be like, yeah, he's still better looking when he was younger.
	All right.
	One more.
	Let's do one more.
	I added, you know, no, let's do Pam Anderson, the one below it.
	We'll do, yeah.
	She is so beautiful.
	Yeah.
	I mean, she's still a good-looking woman for her 50s, but she was better looking when she was younger.
	Next.
	Can you call me?
	Nope.
	He has no makeup on the other one.
	Next, move it down to Evangeline.
	Good name, by the way.
	I think I'll name my daughter Evangeline.
	You got it?
	All right, tab over.
	Older.
	Younger.
	Older.
	Younger.
	Older.
	As people age, they are not as good looking.
	That's just aging.
	And then there was once more.
	Oh, Jessica Beal.
	I give her.
	Jessica Beale, beautiful, beautiful woman still.
	Pull it up.
	Not as good looking, though.
	It's scroll down, scroll down.
	It's above Jonah Hill.
	All right.
	Young.
	Old.
	Young.
	Old.
	Young.
	Old.
	Young.
	Old.
	And I think she might be almost equally as attractive.
	No, literally.
	Look, she's still very good looking.
	She's a very good looking woman, but I don't think there's any dispute here.
	She's better looking when she was younger.
	Is this like a black pill for the women?
	I don't know if it's a black pill for the women.
	I don't know if it's a red pill for the women.
	I don't know if they're just pissed off.
	Like, fuck you, Brian.
	Yes.
	Look, she's still, she's a beautiful woman still.
	Aging.
	Oh, okay, whatever.
	All right.
	Nobody has anything to say.
	They're just shocked, I guess.
	No, I mean, it's reality.
	We have, like, we understand.
	Like, thank you for showing that.
	That was a fun experiment.
	But at the end of the day, like, we should all have this understanding.
	That's why it's important as you're growing up in the house that you're raised to understand that beauty does fade over time.
	It is the character.
	It is your integrity.
	It is the morals on which people are able to see and how you present and treat others, the type of person that you are.
	It's the gentle and quiet spirit that Paul talks about in the New Testament as what women should have instead of adorning themselves with all the jewelry and the fine clothes and everything.
	So, yes, it's a great reminder for us out there.
	But apart from that, that's all I have.
	People talk about their female relatives at funeral eulogies.
	They never talk about how hot they are.
	It's always how they were as a person.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying, I don't think that's the most important thing.
	You're saying beauty is not the legacy.
	They remember what the person is.
	I think it really should be the least interesting quality about someone.
	Well, maybe not least interesting because, like, we're all born with certain features, you know, and some are more lovely or well-defined than others, but definitely not something that you'd think that would be an obituary versus their service.
	I'm sorry, go ahead, Iris.
	No, you're fine.
	I answer what you was going to say: so, besides the fact of looks, and they do have the personality or the traits or the characteristics of, you know, like, I guess, a traditional woman, that's stated in the Bible, and the person that they're dealing with don't per se care about that.
	Then what would you do?
	Because what if they just use you and abuse you after that fact or point?
	So, help me understand where you come from.
	Are you talking about so you have all the characteristics in the Bible, and then someone actually abuses you?
	Where do you go after that?
	Most definitely try to work with that and use it.
	And yeah, I got abused for it.
	Yeah, well, at the end of the day, and this was things that I struggled with with my husband as well.
	It was very hard when he left.
	I was almost 200 pounds.
	Like, I was two pounds shy of that.
	And there was a lot of changes in what he would say about my looks and how he viewed me and not wanting to have sex with me and things like that that hurt very deeply.
	But my worth was not defined in what men said about me.
	That is something that my mother taught me and that I learned being away from my spouse during that time: that's not how God sees me, and that's not how God made me.
	God made me fearfully and wonderfully, as it says in Psalms 139.
	And because we're made in the image of God, God created us with the features that we have, and He knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that that was the best thing that He could give us.
	It was the best hair color.
	It was the best eye color.
	And not even just going past the physical inwardly.
	God knew that within each and every one of us, there was this sense of humility and compassion and empathy and love and patience that we can all give to one another.
	So, in the Bible, it also says that a woman is worth more than rubies.
	And for women who want to find a husband, like for women, they are their husband's crown.
	So, when you're going throughout life and you're in situations where that person abused you, that was wrong.
	That was them.
	Their choices do not dictate your value.
	John Moss Elio.
	What?
	That's my ex.
	That's the person that did that.
	Oh.
	John Moss Elio.
	Sorry.
	I had to say that.
	No.
	Because, yeah.
	And I understand women wanting to have that value for a man, especially if you want to be a traditional wife, because it's a dream that I've had.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, you give your all and you give that to them and they take it for granted.
	So, like that.
	What do you do?
	What can you do?
	Well, when they take it all for granted, they made that decision.
	You're left broken and you're left feeling hurt.
	That's how it was for me.
	I had to turn and give that over to God.
	That's what I did in my situation as a Christian.
	And I said, Lord, remind me of who I am and how you see me because there's going to be people that come in and out of my life that are going to have different opinions about me.
	But I want to know what you say.
	You created me.
	So how do you see me?
	And so that was going to scripture and finding those verses that I mentioned.
	And there are many others.
	I don't have a Bible with me to share.
	But at the end of the day, your value is never, never going to change based on what someone does to you.
	It's not.
	Okay, I don't know some of the things that he spoke over to you.
	I don't know what he did to you.
	But that was him coming from his place of hurt or narcissism or whatever it was, his trauma, that was on him.
	And hurt people hurt people.
	I'm sorry that he hurt you, but please don't stay stuck in the hurt.
	Please view avenues of having friendships and people that speak life into you and reading the Bible.
	I encourage you to have your own conversation with God.
	How does he view you?
	What does he say about Iris?
	Okay, guys, I have to ask some questions.
	So the statement is, or says, if you agree with the statement, circle the number.
	Men should pay on first dates.
	Everyone agreed besides you, so why should men pay on first dates?
	Wait, what?
	You said men should pay on first dates.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Oh, because when you're looking for, well, when you're dating a man, just in general, like I could go be with a woman, but if I'm choosing to be with the man, I'm looking at him as a provider and as someone who can add on to my life and never take away.
	So, and as a provider, I need to see like, this is your time to shine.
	Like, show me what you got.
	Because I have like a bunch of other men that I could give attention, but I'm giving it to you.
	So, yeah, like, now's your time to shine and show me, like, how romantic you could be if you can afford a nice dinner even.
	And if you can't do that, then, like, don't even waste my time.
	Fast, fast answers, guys.
	What about you?
	I think, well, usually, like, a man takes asking me out on a date, so I don't expect to pay when somebody's asking me out.
	That's just like, it makes sense that they're going to pay.
	Like, why would you ask somebody out and not pay?
	So, you think, like, if you ask a guy out, you should pay?
	Yeah, of course.
	If I'm like, oh, yeah, like, let's, if I'm planning a whole thing, like, I'm going to pay.
	But I'm not going to see.
	As for World War I, World War II.
	We'll come back to that.
	World War I.
	Okay.
	What years were World War I or what decade?
	Damn.
	Just guess.
	Like.
	Like.
	Wait, World War I. Fuck.
	Is that like the Civil War?
	It's World War I.
	It's World War II.
	You can guess.
	It's definitely 1875.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	World War I and World War II?
	Just World War I. Do you know?
	Oh, yes, it is.
	No, 1912.
	To 1915.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think 1912 to 1914.
	Okay, what about you?
	1914.
	And you should.
	Do you know it?
	Do you know the end date?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	1912.
	I don't know that.
	What about you?
	Yeah, we're in that time frame.
	1912.
	You're all wrong.
	What's the answer?
	It actually might be 19.
	I can't.
	1914 to 1918.
	I know the ending year too.
	I said 1915.
	Okay, what about World War II?
	1930.
	Okay, what about you?
	Do you want me to give you both here?
	Do you know it?
	Yes.
	Okay, sorry.
	Yeah.
	1942.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm be honest, I don't know.
	I'm just guess.
	Just guess.
	I don't.
	1965.
	No.
	No, that's like.
	1930s.
	Okay, what about you?
	1920?
	1920 to 1930.
	I don't know.
	What about you?
	1930s going into 1940.
	What's the answer?
	It is 1939 to 1940.
	I was right.
	1945.
	I said 1942.
	Okay, guys.
	Name three countries you can't repeat each other's answers, starting with you.
	Italy, France, Norway.
	What about you?
	Azerbaijan.
	Chad, Democratic Republic of the Congo.
	Okay, what about you?
	South America, Asia, Russia.
	Oh, fuck, um, brother, where are you from?
	Oh, United States.
	Yeah, that's what they're doing.
	And Asia.
	That's not a country.
	That's a continent.
	Sorry.
	Let him finish.
	Oh, Guatemala.
	I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?
	Nicaragua.
	Okay, what about you?
	I mean, a whole continent.
	Bolivia, Brazil.
	And we'll do South Africa.
	What about you?
	China, Korea, Japan.
	What about you?
	Mexico, Argentina, Chile.
	Okay.
	Puerto Rico, El Salvador, and we'll do Qatar.
	Okay.
	I don't know what other questions to ask.
	What other world questions do we have besides those?
	Like, we could all do a continent.
	Yeah, I know those really well.
	Yeah.
	Okay, they all.
	You guys, you can't repeat each other.
	Okay, Asia.
	See, Australia.
	Yeah, okay.
	South America.
	Okay.
	North America.
	There's more, baby girl.
	Frick.
	You got it.
	Answers.
	Okay.
	I ran it.
	Yeah.
	What'd you say?
	Is that what'd you say?
	What did you say?
	She said Atlanta.
	What?
	Did you say Atlanta?
	Alaska?
	Damn.
	I step away.
	I said Alaska.
	I step away for 10 minutes.
	Okay, we lose 1,000 viewers.
	You guys were so entertaining.
	Antarctica, yes, but you said Atlanta.
	No, no.
	I think I meant to say that.
	She was asking.
	I was saying Alaska, and she was like, Atlanta?
	Alaska.
	Isn't that a continent?
	Felicity, read this one.
	Alaska, really?
	I didn't need an answer.
	Just wanted to be part of the 0.01%.
	No, Alaska is not a continent.
	What continent is it on?
	Wait, do you want to respond to that?
	$200 super chat.
	Don't screw the guy over.
	It's part of North America.
	Hello.
	This is the guy that asked if it was pink.
	Oh.
	Just wanted for the fear of Putin.
	He's saying it's a very small proportion of men that even do this.
	I do have some further questions, though, in the spirit of Felicity's intellectually genius questions that she just asked.
	You told me to ask them.
	No, I know.
	I'm not being sarcastic.
	Oh.
	Like, it's actually like 300 IQ questions.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Anybody here?
	I know we got some single ladies here.
	Anyone here have a roster or ever had a roster?
	No.
	Yes, I've definitely had a roster.
	Dating multiple people at the same time.
	No, I can't date multiple people.
	Multiple people at the same time.
	Roster.
	Wait, dating.
	Canadians.
	Quebecois.
	Torontonians.
	Ontario.
	Coovers.
	Oh, yeah.
	Wait, dating?
	Manitobans, eh?
	Dating with.
	Yeah.
	Saskatchewan.
	Squatch.
	Squatches.
	I always mess that one up.
	Saskatchewish.
	How would you feel if we annexed Canada, Cena?
	Does that mean bomb?
	Huh?
	No, if we took it.
	Annex.
	Oh, took it?
	Right.
	Took it.
	I want to mine.
	You want to live in America?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Sing the American National Anthem right now.
	America.
	Oh, my God.
	I was going to say, I feel like she would know it better than the Canadian.
	Can you sing the Canadian national anthem?
	Star Spangled Banner.
	Spingle Banner?
	The Star Spangled Banner.
	That's our national anthem.
	Yeah, probably.
	She's Canadian.
	I know that Canadian.
	They don't even have banners in Hanoi.
	Can you see?
	That's a.
	Oh, that's American.
	Don't quit your day job.
	Cena, can you sing the Canadian national anthem?
	I just tried.
	No, it's Oh, Canada My Do they have a pledge?
	Fucking Canada?
	No, I don't think so.
	No Canadian, eh?
	Cool.
	You had a roster.
	How big was the roster?
	Wait, but you said like dating?
	Yeah, dating.
	Like sleeping with?
	Sure.
	Oh, well, then no, I don't sleep with multiple at the same time.
	That can't do that.
	Anybody here ever had a one-night stand?
	Show of hands.
	One-night stand?
	Nick?
	Nick.
	You strump it.
	Just came over.
	Fucking slut.
	Anybody here, not a one-night stand, but you slept with someone the same day you met them.
	Cena, raise your hand.
	Be proud.
	Be proud.
	Raise your hand.
	No, really?
	You didn't fuck a guy the same day you met him?
	The next day.
	Right, right.
	That part.
	That part.
	Like, you could end up being in a long-term relationship with him, but you fucked him right away.
	Happened.
	So the next day?
	All right.
	Anyone here ever had a threesome show of hands?
	Foursome?
	Was it the devil's threesome?
	What's the devil's threesome?
	Two dudes.
	No.
	Two girls.
	One guy.
	Okay.
	Anyone more than a threesome?
	Foursome?
	Whatever.
	Anyone had a ho-faze?
	Anybody?
	Show of hands?
	Ho-faze?
	Sina?
	Canadian?
	Oh, come on.
	Poutine.
	I'm kind of upset.
	You said last time you promised me you were going to bring me some poutine.
	No, I didn't.
	You definitely did.
	When?
	After the show and before the show.
	You're like, oh my God, Brian.
	Evidence?
	Next time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that didn't happen.
	You also said that you want to genocide the country.
	Did not.
	Yeah.
	What?
	It's true.
	No, it's not.
	She's a genocidal maniac.
	That's as true as my boob job.
	Nice.
	That was good.
	Nice.
	It is true, though.
	You heard it from me here first.
	Cena has genocidal tendencies.
	Like, she wants to genocide.
	I could see it.
	She also, one time, she kicked a baby in the face.
	But that baby had it coming.
	The baby had it coming.
	Okay, whatever.
	Just kidding.
	Just kidding.
	Cena is a very nice girl.
	She would never genocide anybody.
	I think.
	Anyways, let's see.
	Oh, is it the deal breaker if a guy uses the word retard or retarded?
	Show of hands, is it a deal breaker?
	I don't think it was a deal breaker, but I explained that I never want him to ever say that again.
	And if that's the problem, then I guess the deal breaker is a bit more like that.
	So that's a deal breaker.
	Deal breaker?
	Deal breaker?
	Deal breaker.
	Like, he doesn't say it every day, but like three times a week.
	Oh, I don't like the term.
	It's ugly of him to say it.
	Like, yeah, I'm not gross.
	So ugly.
	I'm not a fan of the term, but a lot of people my age tend to use it.
	Like when I was in junior high, everyone used it.
	I think some people kept that as a holdover, so I'm not going to hold it again.
	We're taking it back, okay?
	For a period there, they were making good gains, good territory on the retard, but I think we've pushed back the line and we're retaking retard.
	I just have like family members, so when I say that word, I feel like we kind of assumed joking.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	It's only the majority of your family members.
	Right, No, but like, I feel like sick saying that word when I have literally.
	Oh, you actually.
	Oh, she has.
	My bad.
	I thought you were using it in the joking term.
	No, she's being brutal.
	No, I'm being deadass.
	Oh, you're not supposed to call retarded people retards.
	I didn't say retarded.
	You did say retard.
	I said they are retarded.
	Still, you shouldn't.
	Apologize, Brian.
	Apologize.
	No, she has to apologize.
	Oh, you have to apologize.
	You acknowledge me.
	So you need to.
	What's the PC term?
	Anybody in that?
	What's the PC term for special needs?
	Please, you called them retarded.
	I would never call a special needs person retarded.
	You just did.
	And not only that, it was your family members.
	Wow.
	I'm going to show your retarded family members this.
	I mean, this is a special needs family members this.
	And they're going to be like, wow, she called me retarded.
	They will be like, yes, I have a special.
	It's not a secret.
	I see how it is.
	But like, for me to say that word, like, if just doesn't feel right for me.
	Is it because you get the pass?
	No.
	You have the retard cost?
	No one gets the pass.
	Can a question.
	No, I already know what you're going to say.
	And no.
	Can black people give white people the pass to be honest.
	I wholeheartedly believe yes.
	Because, hey, I mean, it's just a word.
	It's just a word.
	But here's the thing.
	Even if a black, I would never say it.
	Even if I got the pass, I wouldn't say it.
	Like, you could give me the pass, wouldn't say it.
	Yeah, that's good.
	I feel that.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like because I'm kind of retarded, I can give people the retard pass.
	Like, maybe, Cena, you'd be like, you know, I don't really want to say that word, but I'm like, it's okay.
	To call you it?
	Shared company.
	No, you can't call me it, but you can just be, you can say it.
	Like, my retard.
	And to be honest, I can't do it.
	It's really weird when you use it derogatory.
	Like, check this out, right?
	Like, I can be like, you're white, right?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	What's up, my Caucasian?
	What's up?
	Boom.
	She's my Caucasian, right?
	That's my Caucasian right there.
	And if you're my Caucasian, I think.
	Yeah, you're white.
	Passing.
	Caucasian.
	Guatemalan.
	I don't know where I'm going with this.
	Are you white or Latina or what are you?
	I'm Latina.
	Latina.
	Yeah.
	Part white.
	No.
	Well, I feel like can't you be Latina and white?
	You can be mixed with mixed.
	You can be like lit skin.
	Like light skin.
	But white.
	Like light skinned.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, she is light.
	She's light Latina.
	Light skin.
	That's a beauty standard.
	You're half a Caucasian.
	Being light.
	Half my Caucasian.
	I'm blonde and like making blonde jokes.
	We got some chats coming through.
	Sorry for the delay.
	Yo, Clain, what's up, dude?
	How many?
	Seven.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, bones, points.
	Give it here.
	Give it here.
	Let's do this.
	Going around the table, you've named just one, and you can't repeat.
	Oh, my bad.
	I don't think we finished.
	Oh, fuck it, whatever.
	Who cares?
	Come on, Brian.
	Put me in.
	Clain.
	Okay, quick.
	All right.
	There's seven continents: Asia, Africa.
	Hold on.
	North America, South America.
	That's rude.
	It's about quick, quick, up to it.
	No, huh?
	Europe.
	Aunt Arshika.
	Does Sean Wayans know that it's pink?
	What?
	Mute again.
	Mute again.
	Oh, shit.
	Really?
	Oh, shit.
	It's not him, right?
	Okay, wait.
	Because like, Sean Wayans is like an old man.
	So no, he doesn't.
	If they're talking an old man, like they're Marlon brothers, like Wayne and Sean Wayne.
	Sean are the two names.
	Those are the two people from the white chicks movie.
	Oh, you know what?
	I know who it is.
	I know who it is.
	The P. Diddy son.
	Bruh.
	No, bro.
	No, no.
	Yes.
	I definitely know a couple people dating his daughter.
	Yeah, I have friends.
	I dating his daughter.
	Well, not friends, but I know who family daughters.
	I don't fuck with the Diddy family.
	No, Diddy Family's out.
	Okay.
	Out.
	Not forever.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Good times.
	Let's see.
	Some more questions here.
	So, deal breaker about the retard thing, I guess.
	I don't know, whatever.
	Oh, we already closed that.
	Yeah.
	We did.
	That's true.
	What does a man need to?
	We already talked about what men need to bring to the table.
	Yep.
	Oh, how about this?
	What is because we've been talking about feminism?
	I think it's important to make distinctions.
	What is a woman?
	Like, what do you mean?
	Like, how do you define woman?
	What is a woman?
	A human being that bears, that can bear life and that are extremely intuitive and like very highly intuitive beings.
	And I think that they have, I think that women are healers and that we're here to heal.
	And yeah.
	Yep.
	Macho man Randy Savage.
	The cream rises to the top.
	Who is that?
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	Good talk.
	What is a woman?
	You know, I'm going to ask you a question first.
	Use the mic.
	Sure.
	Oh, sorry.
	You know, I'm going to ask you a question first.
	Oh, my God.
	Yes, sure.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, do you mean woman as in sex or woman as in gender?
	Well, I would say female relates to sex.
	So what is a woman?
	Okay, in terms of sex, it's a person with a vagina and uterus.
	What the hell?
	Sorry.
	Okay, so.
	What the fuck?
	Your definition of woman is what?
	I just gave it to you, at least in terms of sex.
	Yeah, what about gender?
	I think it's a person who embodies feminine spirit and says they're a woman.
	Okay, so like a male can become a woman.
	Yes.
	A male can be a woman.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait.
	I want to change my answer.
	To what?
	That a woman doesn't have to bear life just if someone feels like they have if they embody feminine energy more than masculine, then they can become a woman.
	So it's really just someone.
	It's really just someone with the feminine.
	Can become a woman.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	I think.
	I think a woman.
	I think it, like, I think her, I agree with her statement of gender and sex.
	So what is a woman?
	Someone that...
	Is it just somebody who identifies as a woman?
	Feminine.
	So men can be feminine.
	Are they women?
	If they, if like if I talk like this, oh my god.
	No, it doesn't make you a woman.
	The cutest little Guatemalan girl I've ever seen.
	Oh my God, I just want to speak.
	That's feminine.
	So beautiful.
	Oh my God.
	And Thena.
	Oh my God.
	No, not just be a gay boy.
	You're just feminine.
	Oh my god.
	Oh my god, I wish.
	Oh, Thena, don't.
	Oh my God, you're just so cute with your little, you know, whatever.
	Sorry, what?
	How's it going?
	I can't.
	Okay.
	Thanks.
	Am I a woman?
	No.
	You're not a woman.
	You're feminine.
	What if I identify?
	Right, watch, check this out.
	Currently, I identify as a man.
	Oh, my God, but now I identify as a woman.
	Okay, identify with that and stick with it.
	Sorry, how am I?
	I mean, I wouldn't argue with you.
	I'd go with the flow and be like, okay.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't affect you.
	I want you to use my preferred pronouns, though.
	Okay.
	Which are His Royal Majesty, your Royal Majesty.
	Okay, His Royal Majesty.
	Yeah, I was really rude when you didn't greet me that way at the door.
	Yeah, you need to let me know.
	Those aren't my pronouns.
	His Royal Majesty and Your Royal Majesty.
	It's not a pronoun.
	I'll go with the flow, but you have to let me know up front sometimes.
	Yeah.
	And actually, you mentioned the bow video earlier.
	The reason I demand bow is because I identify as a king.
	I identify as a king.
	It's a little different.
	I don't just do like particular motions.
	I'm on some king shit, yo.
	She's so horny right now.
	That's crazy.
	Do you see that?
	I can just tell when women are horny.
	That is the most man thing I've ever heard you say.
	Bro, it's a joke.
	Oh, my God.
	Like, it's kind of funny.
	It's like ironic.
	It's like she's definitely not.
	Okay, whatever.
	Okay.
	I can just see it in your eyes, bro.
	Chill out.
	It's okay.
	All the girls see it too.
	That's why they're.
	She knows it's true.
	Trust me.
	You can trust a Guatemalan woman.
	Guatemalan women.
	Very trustworthy.
	Yes, St. Nevis.
	That's true.
	It's so true.
	It's true.
	Anyways, what were we talking about?
	Oh, what is a woman?
	Sino, what's a woman?
	A woman is someone with the pussy and boobs.
	Okay, love it.
	What is a woman?
	A human born with female reproductive Kelsey.
	One of the two sexes that God designed is with the vagina.
	It has a uterus.
	A woman has feminine features.
	And when she dies, DNA is going to show that that was a female.
	That's how they're going to identify it when they do forensic violence and stuff.
	Okay.
	Oh, on a scale of one to ten, what's the minimum to be considered a baddie?
	Huh?
	Baddie?
	You just have to believe in yourself.
	I think what do you mean?
	The minimum.
	I think being able to hold your own ground, having your own money, not relying on anybody else.
	Am I a baddie?
	You know, do you take care of yourself?
	Does somebody else take it?
	I mean, I gotta lose a bit of weight, but no, you can definitely be a baddie.
	You have a podcast.
	You have your shit together.
	I think it's a matter of confidence.
	It's definitely not a matter of features or body type.
	It's the mindset.
	Baddie is a mindset.
	I'm a baddie.
	Then you might be a baddie.
	You might be a baddie.
	I'm a baddie.
	Yeah, you can be a baddie.
	Yeah, I don't think baddies.
	It's nothing to do with your face.
	It's your carry yourself.
	It's a mentality.
	Okay.
	Period.
	What if I'm the baddest baddie?
	Can I say that?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm the baddest.
	Yeah, having confidence.
	I'm a fucking bad bitch.
	Period.
	That's right.
	I'll put it back on.
	All right.
	Well, baddie.
	Brian the baddie.
	Brian the baddie.
	There you go.
	You can take something.
	Okay.
	Not showman.
	Randy Savage.
	Randy Savage was a baddie.
	Oh, he was a big baddie.
	Yes.
	But what's the minimum?
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like you got to be like 7.5 is minimum.
	Eight.
	Okay, eight minimum to be a baddie.
	I'd agree there, Felicity.
	Anyways, next topic.
	I saw viral TikTok.
	You know, I fucked it up last week, I think.
	Well, here, let's just test it out.
	Apparently, women can't make machine gun noises.
	And I want to test this out.
	Make a machine gun noise.
	You can't zip it, Felicity.
	Like with my mouth?
	Whoa.
	We just met, bro.
	We just met.
	Like, you better whine and dine me.
	Like, it's the first date.
	Okay, calm down.
	I know you're.
	See, I was right, guys.
	I was right early.
	Make a machine gun noise.
	Yes, with your mouth.
	Make a.
	Shut up, Felicity.
	I don't think anyone can do that.
	Just try to make a machine gun noise.
	Come on.
	Because apparently women can't do it.
	Can you?
	Of course I can.
	Go ahead.
	I want to.
	Can we see you try to do that?
	No, you guys go first.
	You guys go first.
	That's the rules.
	Very important rules.
	Or do you need sound to practice?
	Can I hear someone else work?
	Nope.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Look, you think you're going to make 10 mil a year with this kind of attitude?
	Oh, nice.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Whoa, stop grabbing your titties.
	What the fuck?
	Two out.
	I'm wiping my hands.
	Oh, sister, sorry, my bad.
	I'm getting sweaty.
	You're getting nervous.
	I know.
	I know.
	I have that effect on.
	The fuck?
	Was that like Cardi B or who?
	That's what they do.
	They're like, was that okay, chat?
	Chat, was that okay?
	That was good.
	Chat, was that okay?
	They do chat.
	Do you guys like this segment?
	I don't know.
	I think it's funny.
	I like these kinds of questions.
	So I'm probably not going to do it right, but I can sound like a duck there.
	She's sectioning with it, too.
	She's saying it.
	That's how I envision it, though.
	Maybe they can go into death calling.
	You're turning red.
	I love your laugh.
	I've never heard your laugh.
	Sound like a little guinea pig.
	Wait, we gotta let it come through.
	No, go, keep going.
	You sound like a little guinea pig.
	I can't do it on command.
	It has to be genuine.
	So cute.
	Yo, what's happening?
	Stop being silly.
	Oh, yeah, do it.
	Okay.
	Machine gun noise.
	Oh, God.
	I know.
	I was okay.
	That ate a little bit.
	That literally ate a little.
	All right, what about it?
	Okay, well, my machine gun soft, so it's gonna go.
	What the fuck?
	Watch!
	Well, yeah, I know that reference.
	Okay, see that?
	I don't know what it sounds like.
	A machine gun.
	I need a devastation.
	Oh my god, Felicity, you fucking poisoned the well here.
	Go ahead, you do it.
	I don't know how I generate it.
	Just do it.
	Take a guess.
	What do you think it sounds like?
	Go ahead.
	But wait.
	What the fuck was that, bro?
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	They have rifles in hand.
	But we don't have guns again, I think.
	Yes, you have rifles.
	They've got guns.
	They have rifles.
	A rifle isn't like the hell.
	No, that's like a handgun.
	She was the mouth that got away.
	Wait, sorry, I did not press that one.
	I'm not impressed by your performance.
	That's George St. Pierre.
	He's not impressed by your performance.
	But I generally don't know what it sounds like.
	Try it one more time.
	Pew, I don't know.
	It's more of a handgun, but it's cute.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Machine gun noise.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's pretty good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That's pretty good.
	Yeah, excellent.
	Okay.
	How's this sound like that?
	I'm not doing it.
	Do it.
	Come on.
	I'm not doing it because you won't do it.
	Oh, come on.
	Be a good sport.
	No, no, no.
	You'd be a good sport.
	You'd be a good sport, Felicity.
	Thank you.
	You're not going to do it at all.
	No, he's afraid.
	Lastly, he was afraid too.
	Wow.
	That's so late.
	How do you know?
	That's absolutely crazy.
	Oh, shit.
	Vector with the save.
	Thank you, bro.
	Thank you.
	Feminists out there.
	For the sake of equality, should women raise their sensibilities to that of men, or should men lower their sensibilities to that of women?
	Can we answer that after we hear your mind?
	We'll answer that after we hear yours.
	I mean, you should have done the sound to set a precedence for us to follow.
	That's what you should have done.
	Yours is worse than mine.
	I want to.
	No, I'm not going to do it, but just thought I'd say women apparently can't do machine gun noises.
	But some of y'all did good.
	I'm proud of y'all.
	You're a woman.
	I'm so proud of you.
	No, for real.
	You're so right, Felicity.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, question.
	Do you think women are better communicators than men?
	No.
	Show of hands.
	Just show of hands.
	On average.
	Women better communicators, generally.
	Yeah, generally, I think so.
	Into the mics, into the mics.
	Generally, I do.
	Raise your hands up if you think women are better communicators generally.
	Obviously, there's a guy who's a better communicator than a girl.
	I think they both suck.
	They both suck.
	They both can suck, but I think women can make a lot of noise with each other or in general.
	Just general.
	All could be a lot of people.
	I think women talk more, but that doesn't wait to affect each other.
	Depends on the person.
	Wow, that was.
	Yeah, I was about to say that myself.
	Yeah, it's a person.
	I think counselors would sit there and say that communication is terrible between both sex when they come in for counseling.
	Because I hear women say men are bad communicators, women are better communicators.
	Really?
	None of you think that?
	I agree with that.
	I agree with that.
	Okay, she agrees.
	Well, how about this?
	Who here?
	I feel like this isn't going to work anymore.
	Okay, but who here?
	They probably won't answer.
	Who here has faked an orgasm?
	Show of hands.
	I would never use his ego like that.
	Bradley, never.
	Anyone?
	Sadly, I had to.
	You're surprised like that's happened to you.
	What?
	As far as I know, it's never happened.
	Oh.
	Yeah, you'll never know.
	As far as you know, as far as I know.
	I feel like women aren't that good of actors, you know?
	So surprised.
	Wait, is this going to be like DJ?
	Can I get I ever fake that with you guys?
	And like, I don't think they could know.
	It's really hard for them to fake because they have to like they actually come.
	So, like, how do they fake coming if they come?
	Yeah.
	True.
	So true.
	It's like women, it's easier.
	It's in like a condom.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Yeah.
	I don't know, man.
	I'm telling you, bro.
	Brina, your name's Brina.
	Okay, you don't have to write that.
	Your name's Brina.
	Yeah, what's wrong with that?
	Why didn't they just name you Brianna?
	Obviously, way better.
	Not better.
	Oh, way better.
	Everyone has that name.
	Brianna wouldn't have that name.
	No offense, Victoria.
	You guys kind of look alike.
	We are related, actually.
	I took a deal.
	I'm going to see long-lost siblings.
	Remember that photo that we took of you at your house?
	We also got a DNA sample.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	We actually got a DNA sample and we actually share.
	Yeah.
	So you're both awkward.
	I'm also your father.
	Oh, really?
	Did you have me at 13?
	I am your dad.
	What's that?
	Did you have me at 13?
	Well, how old are you?
	23.
	23?
	So that would.
	Wait, 23.
	Oh, there you go.
	I'm 36.
	Oh, she's right.
	Yeah.
	13.
	Damn.
	Yes.
	I was.
	Your mother abused me.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Oh, wow.
	Crazy shit.
	Yeah.
	She was.
	I miss her.
	Whoa, that's fucked up.
	Okay.
	Anyways, dark humor.
	We have a chat here.
	Felicity, read the shit.
	Get me out of this.
	I don't know what I'm doing.
	If a man tells you, doesn't ask, straight up tells you that for the first six dates, he's buying groceries for you and you're cooking dinner for him.
	Which of takes, which of you take that deal?
	Is that a fair deal?
	What?
	Yeah, that's a fair deal.
	I feel like I kind of fucked that up, but the font is hard to read.
	I'd be down for that.
	I think it would be hard to get that.
	I would like it.
	I think I'd be like, I'm going to make this today.
	Tomorrow I'm going to make that.
	And you're going to be buying all of the Christmas.
	Then you're going to buy all the groceries.
	Wait, can you guys answer this one?
	Vector donated $200.
	What does he mean by sensibilities?
	Should women raise their sensibilities to that of men, or should men lower their sensibilities to that of women?
	Yeah, Vector, clarify.
	What do you mean by sensibilities?
	And then Christopher sent in a follow-up.
	But yo, Christopher, thank you for the chat.
	Appreciate it, brother.
	Okay, hold on.
	Have, let's see what we have.
	A couple reminders here: $200 TTS, $100 read, Venmo, Cash App, Twitch.
	Pull it up.
	Guys, 30 minutes since we last had a prime.
	It's bugged.
	Drop a prime.
	Help us out, boys.
	Also, shop.whatever.com.
	Get us some merch.
	Get some merch.
	Discord.
	Like the video.
	Guys, like the video if you're enjoying the stream.
	It's been a fun show.
	We're going to do, let's see, we got to try to blast through the final few things here.
	Oh, who here?
	Who here wants to get married?
	Show of hands.
	I guess I, yeah.
	Everybody.
	Okay.
	When you do get married, will you take your husband's last name?
	No hyphenation.
	You take his last name.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, I will take his last name.
	I don't like my last name.
	Sorry.
	Okay, I see.
	I got misunderstood.
	Yes, but I'm keeping mine still.
	Wait, what?
	I'm keeping my last name, but I'm also taking my husband's hyphen.
	Oh, so hyphen.
	Yes, I hyphen.
	Oh, I'm going to do that.
	You said no hyphen.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I said no hyphen.
	Sorry, you said no hyphen.
	Okay.
	No hyphen.
	You know who you look like, Billie Eilish.
	No.
	That's what everyone says.
	Everyone says that.
	Wait, smile again?
	Like Billie Eilish and Kelly Uchi.
	Yo, yo, yo.
	Chat, Holy shit.
	She looks like the female version.
	I know, not off to great smile.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I can't wait.
	You look like the female version.
	I'm going to get you a muzzle.
	Hold on.
	You look like the female version of Ray Lioda from Goodfellas.
	Nick, Goodfellas, Ray Lioda.
	Does she not look a little like Ray Leoda?
	I don't know.
	Look into this camera right here, right here.
	This one?
	Right here.
	And then smile.
	Smile.
	Come on.
	Smile, smile, smile.
	Big smile, big smile.
	Pull it up, Nick.
	You got it?
	No, Goodfellas, Goodfellas, Goodfellas.
	That's him, but he's older.
	He looks like a snatched version.
	Wait, did he pass away?
	Rest in peace.
	I think he did.
	Sorry, rest in peace.
	My dad died.
	But pull up him from Goodfellas.
	Yeah.
	Ooh.
	Oh, I think I see her.
	Show more.
	Show more.
	Some more colors to me on this shirt.
	Yeah, is he Italian?
	He's Italian.
	That would make sense.
	Just pull it.
	Yeah.
	You look like.
	He gives Italian energy.
	That looks like my dad.
	I'm going to show you my dad.
	That's literally what he looks like.
	Wait, chat.
	Do you see her?
	Chat, do you see the vision?
	Does she look like Ray Leoda?
	Wait, do the laughing one?
	Do the laughing one?
	Wait, here, make that face.
	Ready?
	Well, keep your eyes open.
	Or wait.
	Hold on.
	Keep your eyes open.
	Make the face.
	Oh, it's the fake lashes are fucking you up.
	Wait, click the one where he's in that suit in the middle there, the guardian.
	Yeah, that one.
	Okay, look.
	Give me the face.
	Look at Felicity.
	Look at Felicity.
	And then be serious.
	Like you want to kill her.
	Be serious.
	Hey, what the fuck?
	Be serious.
	Look at me like I'm a man.
	Look at Brian.
	No, look at Felicity.
	Look at Felicity.
	I'll be there.
	50%.
	Look at Felicity.
	That's the same angle.
	Yeah.
	Serious.
	Stop smiling.
	Stop smiling.
	I'm not making a stink.
	Chat, does she look like...
	Yeah, like flare your nostrils.
	Okay, the chat's like, nope.
	Okay, whatever.
	I see it.
	I see it.
	I see it too.
	That's what my dad looks like.
	All right.
	Somebody in the chat said, Mark said Ray Leoda got around.
	Oh.
	Maybe he's a Leo?
	He might be your dad.
	No, he got around.
	Oh, damn, the girls.
	Okay.
	What did you take?
	Wait, so wait, take last name.
	Did you have a huge number?
	Would you take your husband's last name?
	Yes, I would.
	Not hyphen.
	Take his.
	No hyphening.
	Yes?
	Yes.
	Kelsey.
	Wait, so hyphen-hyphen?
	Yeah, hyphen hyphen.
	I wouldn't.
	I like my last name.
	You guys want guys to pay for dates, but you want that.
	No, I just like my last name.
	I'm going to give you my like.
	My last name translates to weed.
	But it's crazy.
	Y'all want traditional treatment.
	You want a guy to pay for traditional things.
	I want his last name, too.
	I want a mix of everything.
	Hyphen isn't traditional.
	Well, no, I never said I wanted someone traditional.
	I don't want to say that.
	I will take a guy out on a date.
	You want a provider and a protector.
	That's traditional.
	I want mix of today and the shoe.
	So it just sniffs.
	That's not traditional either.
	Repeat that.
	I want a mix of today and traditional.
	But see, you want a mix.
	You want the good things about traditional and the good things about it.
	Why can't I have that?
	What's wrong with you?
	You can't have your cake and yes, I can, because I do.
	But people need to stop thinking they can't have it all.
	Like, you can have it all.
	Like, whoever's telling you you can't have that.
	Like, that's literally the American thinking.
	Like, no.
	You can have it all.
	So, why should we hold men to traditional gender roles if you won't hold to female traditional gender?
	No, I think you should hold the men that want to be like that and the women that want to be like that.
	And those are the things.
	That's not for me.
	A 50-50 guy.
	Go date a 50-50 guy.
	No, I don't want that.
	Well, okay.
	But you said the people who are not traditional should find the not traditional people.
	Yeah.
	But also, there's lots of people who mix both of those things.
	It's 2025.
	Why are we still holding on to the old traditional ways?
	Like, it's all about, you know, like we're trying to level up.
	We're growing.
	We're learning.
	Like, it's okay to change the traditional ways.
	Well, my quarrel with that.
	And look, I'm prepared to say that I don't think, like, when I think about traditional behavior, I'd put it on the spectrum.
	I don't think like you have to be otherwise like, okay, somebody who's not a virgin, are they traditional?
	I would say you can still, both people can still enjoy traditional gender roles, but neither of them are virgin.
	Like that wouldn't be like preclude you from being in traditional dynamic.
	But I think on the what the preponderance of the evidence, that's not evidence, is the on the bulk of it, you should lean more towards traditional.
	But what I see is women want men to lean as fully into tradition as possible.
	And these are typically things that benefit women, but they want to like abandon, revoke, just do away with all the traditional gender expectations on women.
	What are the well, tell me one traditional thing that women should do?
	That should do?
	Yeah, what should well you can say men should pay for dates, men should be protectors.
	What should women do?
	Allow a space for their man to be vulnerable and for that person to like be the person they can come to to you know be uplifted, be comforted.
	Never.
	Sorry.
	There's a joke in there somewhere.
	And I also think, I mean, I don't mind being like, you know, the traditional housewife or whatever, but like I just feel like there needs to be a balance.
	Like I'm not going to just like, I don't know.
	My, okay, here's my ideal like relationship.
	Does that thing, does that thing move?
	Nope.
	Just can you is it is it glued or how does that work?
	Can I do that with my hair?
	Yeah, I can do that.
	You want to do it?
	I can do that.
	Okay.
	And you need some god to it.
	I can do it.
	Let's do it.
	It's good.
	Yeah.
	Do you think I'd be would it be a good look for me, you think?
	You would look Italian.
	With that thing?
	What's it called, by the way?
	What's that?
	Is there a name for it?
	The swirl.
	Swirl.
	It's very like flapper girl, like 20s hairstyle.
	Do you do your own hair?
	Finger curls.
	I do hair if anyone needs hair done.
	Gotcha.
	Yeah.
	Do you?
	No, I don't do hair.
	I should do it.
	I'll do it.
	My hair's a bit short, but we'll do it.
	We'll do it.
	I was looking at that.
	I was like, that's good.
	How much did you do it for free, right?
	No.
	Really?
	You wouldn't just do that shit for the fun of it?
	Oh, for you?
	For me?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	You kind of call me average, so I'm kind of going to have to treat you like an average person and charge you.
	Like just all the other average people.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Sorry, what were we talking about?
	We were talking about all the rapid fire questions.
	That's what we're talking about.
	Yeah.
	And like traditional.
	Oh, yeah, traditional.
	What should women do?
	I mean, I already said what I thought, so you could go ahead.
	But you okay, men spaith that men can be vulnerable.
	Yes.
	To create the like where they're backbone, like backbone.
	I don't know.
	Oh, were you raising your hand or are you just scratching the lice out of your head?
	Oh, my goodness.
	We actually do lice checks sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Just kidding.
	Never mind.
	Wait, what were we talking about?
	What?
	Oh, what?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Okay, so if we can say men should pay on dates, men should provide, protect, men should be chivalrous.
	What should women do?
	If the woman is like holding that, if the woman is holding that man to the standard, these are not my standards, but like for women that want something traditional, then the woman should do the traditional role.
	If the man is going to be on that time, then the woman should be on that time and be like housewife vibes, cleaning, cooking, etc.
	If the man is going to provide 100%, that's not the lifestyle I want to live.
	But, you know, I think if you hold a man to a standard, then the man should hold the woman to like the traditional standard.
	Sure.
	Well, just really quick from the questionnaire, question one, two, and three.
	We've changed it up a bit.
	One, two, and three, men should pay on first dates.
	Two.
	Men should provide protect.
	Three.
	Men should be chivalrous.
	You circled all of those.
	Emily, you didn't circle any of them.
	M-Dog, you circled one.
	That's my homie name for you.
	Okay, good talk.
	You couldn't pronounce my name.
	Marcia.
	It's not my name.
	Marcia.
	It's Marcia.
	Marcia, well, you should.
	You should go slap the shit out of your parents then.
	So, anyways, Iris, you circled all three.
	Cena, you circled all three.
	Steph circled all three.
	Kelsey.
	Uh-oh.
	Wait, is this your nickname, Kelsey, or you hyphenate?
	No, I hyphenate my last name right.
	Like from your parents, they were hyphenated?
	No.
	Oh, is this your ex?
	Oh, wait a second.
	Uh-huh.
	You hyphenated with your husband?
	I did hyphenate.
	Wow, little feminist over here.
	What the heck?
	I kept it for business purposes.
	That was a discussion that we had, and he actually talked about changing his name to wait.
	Honestly, wait.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	Didn't mean to interrupt.
	But if I were to remarry, I would completely take his name because I don't need my last name for family business purposes going forward.
	Wait, which one?
	Which one?
	Can I say both of them?
	Is that fine?
	Are you fine if I say?
	Do my maiden don't do his best?
	I don't know which one is that.
	Is it the first one?
	It's always the first one, isn't it?
	Wait, your last name is Risk?
	You don't like it?
	No, I think it's cool.
	That is Risk?
	Yeah.
	Your last name is Risk?
	That's risky business.
	I'm just a cool, that's kind of a cool last name.
	I've never heard that.
	Have you ever heard that last name?
	No, thank you.
	Okay, I don't know.
	I guess it goes along with that politician thing, you know, I guess, that you were saying earlier.
	Okay, that's it.
	Just curious about that.
	Cool.
	Wait, where?
	Where were we?
	We were talking about the top three things that women were talking about on paper.
	What should women do?
	Oh, wait, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So all of you, like, I mean, I guess you only circled men should pay on first dates, but it's like women have this expectation.
	Oh, I don't.
	Well, you had the men should pay on first dates expectation.
	He asked me out on the date.
	If I asked you, do you ask guys out on dates?
	I don't.
	Oh, exactly.
	But I will take my man out on a date after.
	Yeah, you've been dating a guy for two years and two years in.
	All right, babe, I'll buy you a burger.
	Congratulations.
	I don't do that.
	I've taken guys out on the second date when they've paid for the first one.
	I love that for you.
	Yeah.
	I love it.
	Okay, so, but anyways, I don't know.
	I would say like being respectful is one of them, acknowledging that.
	So like for me, if I was to go out on a date with a guy, I would be thanking him for paying for the dinner, even though women have like this preset notion and expectation that men need to pay for everything.
	I think that just acknowledging that they did that speaks a lot of volumes and really separates you apart from other women that are vying for attention for that guy or whatever.
	Like respect is a big deal.
	What do you think, Brian?
	Yeah, get back over here.
	Bow.
	What's the question?
	No, I was saying, like, acknowledging that thanking him and respecting.
	Respecting them.
	Bringing that, being feminine, just really doing that.
	I think I know what you're going to say.
	What am I going to say?
	The video's ready.
	What about it?
	The bow.
	Here, we'll do that in a bit, but read this, Felicity.
	Felicity.
	Sensibilities such as women can interact with each other in ways that if a man were to interact with a woman that way, it would be seen as a creep.
	I hope I made sense here.
	I forget the initial question.
	The sensibilities.
	Yeah.
	So men raise the sensibility or women lower sensibilities?
	Is that what it was?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Wait, I, yeah.
	I don't know.
	So, like, communicating like women typically do between each other, maybe?
	Their question is a little unclear to me.
	I'm just confused.
	Felicity, you can read this one.
	Would you feel blessed if Charlie Kirk was your husband?
	Is this directed at Kelsey or the whole panel?
	It does say like it's an open panel.
	There's photos right there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's an open panel, probably.
	I don't know.
	I mean, in person.
	I mean, if he's passing.
	Hypothetically, if I knew him personally.
	I don't want my husband to be sniped.
	Jesus Christ.
	Let's girl.
	That would be so sad.
	Oh, boy.
	I would say I would feel blessed if my husband had godly moral values, was the leader, the protector, was one who was there for his family.
	And we see those qualities and characteristics that were in Charlie.
	At the end of the day, he was a man who went home to his wife.
	That is to be commendable nowadays.
	He was there for his children.
	He was providing.
	He was setting a precedence that other young men were to follow.
	Like he called them up to a higher standard in a society where we see a lot of men are not doing anything to help younger men or there's just this lack of mentorship.
	Charlie was trying to be a mentor and trying to encourage men that, hey, you can be more than what society is telling you.
	You can be more than what other people in your community are saying.
	You can be the man that you were created by God to be.
	Vector, do this.
	I think you got to do an explain like I'm five.
	You can do it.
	Send one in for 10, Vector.
	Just 10.
	That's the minimum threshold for me to see it.
	Break it down super easy, Vector, for what you want them to.
	Because I feel like if he's saying interactive, he's talking about communicating.
	So like how we'll just.
	I think he needs to break it down.
	I don't think pulling it up again, I don't think they'll be able to parse it.
	So just Vector, just send in a 10 and we'll treat it as a clarification follow-up.
	Okay, let's see how.
	Oh, we've got some pre-show notes we have to get into.
	But seriously, what do women bring to the table, I guess?
	What should women do?
	Be submissive.
	Be submissive?
	Okay, that's a good answer.
	That's good.
	Think.
	Cook, clean.
	Or is that sexual?
	Are you talking about on the date, or were you talking about just in general?
	Because I did my answer based on the first date when you're saying about the men paying for the first dates and everything.
	Are you talking about like a whole lifestyle?
	You have a man?
	I'd say like longer term.
	Oh.
	Because I don't.
	What can women actually really do on a first date?
	I mean, obviously, you can be pleasant and all this sort of thing.
	But I feel like that's bare minimum.
	That's why I kept it, like, surfacy with, like, acknowledge, respecting and everything.
	Yeah, long term, more of the traditional roles of housewife, the caretaker, the giver, the emotional caregiver being there, creating that safe space, like what Erica talked about doing for her husband.
	Well, I think, yeah, on the long term, women are able to start doing their part of it.
	But on the at the beginning, I can't actually think of like anything gender specific, really, like on the first date that women really bring themselves.
	But it's like, I was going to, you know, obviously she should be pleasant.
	She should have a certain ease to her that it's not a pain in the ass to actually have the date happen.
	But that's just like, that would apply to men too.
	So I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, thank you for clarifying.
	So that's the question.
	But I'll tell you my perspective.
	Answer.
	I think on the first date, like the girl should come back to my place and she should just fold the shit out of my laundry.
	Just can't you just hire someone and do it?
	I find that very strange.
	It's so dirty.
	Do you not know how to do it?
	Do you need tutorials?
	We can send it.
	Do you have mommy issues?
	No, I can do laundry on my own.
	But, you know, it's like it's so much more rewarding.
	Like the clothes feel softer after a woman's folded them.
	That's weird.
	That sounds like what my mom says about salads.
	If they taste better when someone else makes the salad, I'm like, how is that possible?
	Just something.
	You know, it's just, you know.
	You could just bring the laundry with you on the first date and be like, hey, I got the laundry basket in the back of my car.
	I'm going to bring it in here.
	I just want to watch you fold it.
	Just see.
	Maybe that's your prerequisite.
	That's why you're not married.
	I haven't found someone to actually fold my socks right.
	At 36.
	Maybe that, that's it, Brian.
	Excuse you, Cena.
	Look, I don't, I've found, I've found women.
	It's not like I've found women who fold my shit.
	First aid.
	Easy.
	You just, you don't, what?
	They're definitely weird.
	Weird, uh, no, like, I look, here's what you do, right?
	Look, and but what's crazy to me is like these dudes, these girls will like fuck a guy on the first date, whatever, first time meeting.
	And that's you know what I don't mind that either.
	But uh, well, at least only for me, it's gross if they do like it's gross if they do with other guys, but like, I'm whatever.
	You want to fuck me right away?
	That's cool.
	I can't.
	Um, but anyways, I can't.
	Thank you for sharing.
	So, uh, what was I saying?
	Oh, yeah, it's like, look, the girls will sleep with a guy on the first date.
	You'll let a guy deposit his ejacolet deep into the back.
	Why do I go crazy?
	Into the back of the woman's throat or on your face or on your hair or some shit.
	I don't know.
	Sometimes sometimes as a guy, you got to aim there or whatever just to assert dominance.
	I'm kidding.
	Joke.
	Good joke.
	Bad joke.
	Don't put in the hair unless you want her, you know, Sue.
	I would help her style her hair.
	You know, sperm is actually really good.
	Hair gel.
	Sorry, these jokes are so bad.
	I apologize.
	And these jokes are inappropriate.
	So, but I'm just saying, like, you know what I mean?
	No, nobody wants flaky white gel in their hair.
	No.
	Next question.
	What kind of guys are you sleeping with?
	Next question.
	Dust is coming out.
	No, I'm saying you can put it on your hair and it dries.
	What?
	You went too far, but that is like this.
	I thought it was funny.
	Anyway, so what the fuck?
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm just saying, y'all will do kind of this crazy sexual shit, whatever, but just wholesome Brian, just oh, babe, let's.
	No, no, no, sorry, not let's you fold the laundry.
	You know, what?
	What's wrong with that?
	There's nothing.
	Like, you guys want to suck and fuck and do all this crazy shit.
	Wholesome Brian here just wants.
	Here's my laundry room.
	Well, some issues.
	Put some music.
	Put some enya on while you fold.
	I don't know if I'd go back to someone's apartment on the first date.
	That's me.
	I just feel like that's a good way to get first date activity.
	You know what?
	You guys are so right.
	I do have safety concerns when I do invite a woman over.
	I'm scared for me.
	You should.
	Yeah.
	I don't blame you on that stranger to be.
	It is a safety concern for me as the man.
	Yes.
	I don't know who this woman could be.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I don't know why you do it on the first date then.
	Like, maybe she's Canadian.
	What the?
	What if she's Canadian and she makes my shit smell like maple syrup?
	That's dangerous.
	Anyway, I don't know.
	Or, you know, she could also just clean my bathroom.
	Why can't you just hire someone to churn butter?
	Wait, Nick.
	Marison.
	Marison is your new name.
	Marison, find the churning butter clip.
	I have churned butter before.
	It takes two hours at least.
	So it's not Discord.
	It's not something I do.
	I think in the memes.
	I mean, it's a good workout.
	Find that.
	She's sitting in your upper body.
	Whoa, okay.
	Wait, can that does it?
	How do you do it?
	I'm not going to do the hand motion, but do we have the video, please?
	Play it back.
	Hello?
	It's not memes?
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, media?
	Media?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This second and last one.
	Play that.
	Play it.
	This is my expectation.
	Well, just wait until I finish my intro.
	First date activity.
	I want my girl to churn butter for me.
	Play that shit.
	Like this.
	Look at the talent here.
	They're dressed very nicely.
	It's beautiful.
	Look at how good they are, too.
	Look at the technique, the wrist technique, top tier.
	Oh my god.
	Whoa.
	Yo, get your mind out of the gutter.
	What the fuck?
	You're the one making it weird.
	I'm not sure.
	Fucking Ray Liota over here.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	She looks like Rayleigh.
	I don't know.
	Like female version of Rayleigh.
	There's so many more modern ways to make butter, Brian.
	You should be able to do that.
	Yeah, you're losing two hours of your time.
	Yes, Kelsey.
	Kelsey, if you were my, if I was on a date with you, Kelsey, you know, I wouldn't ask you about, you know, I would ask you about the important things.
	Like, how often do you churn butter?
	How's your strawberry jam?
	Yes.
	I do do that every spring and fall.
	Pie?
	Can you make pie?
	Yeah, I can make clean.
	How's your cleaning?
	Can you clean my house?
	I can clean so well.
	They should hire me to clean the white house.
	I have a question about that.
	You keep saying, like, oh, clean.
	Why can't you just hire someone to do that?
	You know, look, I could probably afford a cleaner, but there's just something so romantic about my girlfriend.
	No, she's your princess.
	You shouldn't want her to touch or do anything.
	She's not my princess.
	Yes.
	You need to treat her like a queen.
	My daughter, maybe, would be a cleaner.
	You need to treat her like a queen.
	A queen's not clean.
	Or sorry, not a wife.
	Queens don't clean.
	Yes, they do.
	No, they don't.
	You hire someone to do it for you.
	She's going to do some queen.
	I cleaned when I was married.
	My mom was going to be a cleaner.
	I'm going to start a cleaning service called Queen Cleaning.
	I just think your man should be able to provide, like, someone to clean it for you.
	Like, why are you fucking him and being his maid and being his mommy and clean it?
	Their minimum, duh.
	They want domestic servitude at that point.
	Bare minimum.
	Duh.
	If she won't, find someone who will.
	That's great.
	And then she can find someone that doesn't make her clean.
	You know what?
	A woman, what's that stupid thing?
	What is it?
	I would never clean.
	You know, a woman does not have to clean my bathroom.
	What is it?
	You know, what's that?
	The stupid TikToks where it's like the girl.
	You know, a man doesn't have to pay for the date, but the right one will.
	You guys know the stupid TikTok?
	I don't know.
	Anybody?
	You know, a woman doesn't have to bow for me, but the right one will.
	And I choose the.
	I choose the right one.
	Oh, I can't.
	Good for you.
	Oh, you.
	Like, I hope you find anything that you want in this life.
	A woman doesn't have to fold the laundry, but the right one will.
	And I choose the right one.
	A woman doesn't have to bow for me, but she can if she wants to.
	And I will pick the one who wants to.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Thank you, Felicity.
	Holy shit, I butchered it.
	I fucking butchered it.
	She said it way better.
	Yes, good job.
	Appreciate it.
	Felicity.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, well, that's cool.
	Couple other things here.
	A woman's passion not matter.
	Body count.
	Brina, you agree.
	Emily, you agree.
	Marsha.
	Really?
	Say it this way.
	Marsha.
	The Spanish way is how.
	Marcia?
	No, it's not a problem.
	What do you like?
	Like in the Spanish way.
	Even my parents, they don't nick.
	Marsha.
	Because they know how I pray.
	Is that like a Jewish name from the 40s or something?
	Like you should be like 80 years old.
	Marsha.
	I know.
	It's like an old woman name, but I love it.
	They might as well have named you Olga or something.
	No, so my old lady.
	Fucking Ursula.
	My family doesn't call me by my first name.
	They call me Juliana.
	Oh, Juliana.
	Okay, that's nice.
	That's what they call me.
	She's pretty.
	Thank you.
	She's also known as Marshi.
	Yeah, but my friends call me Marshall.
	Marshmallow.
	Marshie.
	Marshmallow.
	Marsh.
	Mars.
	Swamp.
	Mars.
	Marshi.
	Marshie.
	Marshi.
	Marshi Poo.
	I don't know.
	Marshi-Lish.
	Did they say Juliana or Juliana?
	No, Juliana.
	Juliana.
	Not Juliana.
	Juliana.
	That was kind of a racist.
	That was kind of racist.
	No, I literally get so mad when people call me that.
	Let's see.
	A woman's past.
	Brie.
	I'm going to call you Bri.
	Thank you for.
	A woman's past should not matter.
	Cena, you say a woman's past should matter.
	Steph, woman's past should matter, I guess.
	Okay.
	So to you four, you say a woman's past should not matter.
	Why is that?
	Because it doesn't.
	It shouldn't determine how other people view you or that just invites judgment.
	And I just, I think anything that involves judgment should just not be like, I don't know, I just don't like judgment.
	I mean, you wouldn't date a guy below 6'2 and who makes less than 10 million a year.
	So that's a standard.
	That's a good idea.
	That's a standard, though.
	Yeah, my standard would be a woman who's not a strumpet.
	Just kidding.
	But seriously.
	I think it's a really, I don't know, rude thing to ask on the first date.
	It's like a job interview.
	I think at some point in the relationships I've been in the past, it does kind of come up because you ask, you get curious what someone's relationships in the past have been like.
	But I just don't ever really hear a lot of people talk about body counts outside the internet.
	I mean, even amongst, I like eavesdropping and I've worked a lot of jobs where I've been the token woman.
	So I've kind of eavesdropped some older guys' conversations.
	And they might talk about someone if they're very promiscuous, but I've never been like this body count, this, that body count.
	They've never been that specific with numbers.
	I don't know.
	I feel like it's a losing battle.
	Close one of the doors.
	Just one of the doors.
	And also, close upstairs, please.
	So, okay.
	I just think it's, at least on the context of the show, because I know the question is going to come up.
	It's going to be a bit of a losing battle because no matter what you say, there's always someone who's going to say, multiply it by three, even if it's just one person.
	Cool.
	So I guess some of you think body count shouldn't matter.
	Well, just, I guess body count shouldn't matter.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, well, actually, since I shed my uterus walls every month, I'm a reborn virgin every month.
	What?
	So, no me too.
	Everyone that has touched me inside, like, they're no longer there.
	Like, that never happened.
	They never happen.
	No, it's shedded.
	It's gone.
	We never touched that part.
	Actually, though, isn't there something conversion?
	What is that chat?
	Help me out.
	The microchimerism or what is it?
	Where, like, or maybe it's only of women who've given birth or something, but like there is some sort of medical study.
	I don't know if it's like legit or whatever.
	If a dude's like, you know, blossomed inside you, something about the sperm, it's like forever, forever there.
	Oh, yeah.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Yeah, some DNA stays like in the brain.
	Chat?
	Can anybody say I said rebirth or chat?
	What is it called?
	Things out there.
	Something chimerism or something.
	Or wait.
	Okay, but what's the real number?
	You know what?
	What's a range?
	What did she say?
	She sheds her universe.
	She's a morning and virgin every month.
	Okay, so what is it for the snakes?
	That's all I'm still on the answer.
	You know what's crazy too is that men, they're, you know, snakes.
	No, it happens.
	Men shed the outer skin layers of the penis.
	I've seen that.
	Yeah, they shed, like a snake, it leaves behind a little thingy, too, like a little skin.
	That is so scary.
	Yeah.
	You guys haven't seen that?
	Yeah.
	And we actually also become virgins after also sheddings.
	Yeah, so you guys are both pretty.
	That's so true.
	Yeah, right, right, right, right.
	So true.
	Sometimes it's weird, though.
	You know?
	You will shed that shit like randomly.
	So you'll be at the movies like watching Transformers.
	And you just let dick skin, like your skin dick.
	Skin dick, dick skin.
	I can't.
	I was on a date with a guy and he said he had to leave because of that.
	That's weird.
	Yeah, and then this one time I was dating this girl who had fetish and she was like, can you shed while inside me?
	And I was like, whoa.
	Are they a virgin?
	Yeah.
	New level.
	Okay, this is like their virgin.
	But she was asking me to do it.
	I was like, whoa.
	And she wanted to be like, yeah, I want to absorb that shit.
	I was like, whoa.
	That's weird.
	That is.
	That is definitely a new one.
	Yeah.
	That's the new one.
	Did you like me?
	Start collecting.
	No, I said I only do that in the mouth.
	Anyways.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I'm being a little fucking.
	I'm being a little bit.
	He's being a middle.
	I'm being a little smeaker's bar.
	Okay, let's make a single bar.
	Okay, what's your body count?
	Three.
	Okay, what's your body count?
	I'm not disclosing.
	I don't know.
	Range.
	You want to do a range?
	Probably like 13.
	Under 13 or it is 13.
	It's like either it's like 13.
	How many chicks?
	Just two.
	Sweet.
	Body count.
	Are we including women?
	Yes.
	Give us the breakdown for both.
	Four male, three women.
	Okay.
	What about you, Sina?
	Three.
	Nice.
	Three.
	Three?
	Three.
	I have three boyfriends.
	Well, you've got three boyfriends, but how many?
	One.
	You said that.
	One?
	Okay.
	And that was just your husband?
	Yes.
	Okay, because you virgin.
	Wait until marriage, Felicity.
	22.
	That's so chill.
	It's actually 22.
	Mike.
	Body count.
	I already told you.
	Come on, not that my uterine wall sheds.
	That's the only answer I'll give.
	Did you stop counting?
	Is that it?
	Did you lose track?
	No, I'm literally reborn every month.
	Well, okay, tell you what.
	It's more than one.
	I'm just trying to forget them.
	Is that why?
	That's real.
	Has it been?
	It's been more than one.
	Wow, thank you.
	More than one less than 50?
	Oh, yeah, less than 50.
	Bro, this whole table is.
	Okay, hold on.
	Where's the fucking.
	You're a fucking liar.
	You're a fucking liar.
	All of you.
	Maybe not all.
	I know.
	Three.
	Careful.
	Careful.
	Don't you dare put in with it everybody.
	Don't you say that?
	Kelsey, I believe you.
	I believe you.
	Maybe we can get you a rebound.
	Maybe we can get it to number two.
	So, ex-stripper with a body count of three.
	When did how old were you when you lost your virginity?
	16.
	14 to my first boyfriend.
	14?
	Yeah.
	How long were you dating your first boyfriend?
	Like boyfriend, girlfriend for two years, and then like we like stayed talking.
	How many boyfriends have you had?
	Three.
	That makes sense.
	It says here in the notes, your longest relationship was three years.
	So even if you had I have a tough time moving on 14.
	Lost at 14.
	You're 31 now.
	That's 15 years.
	Let's say even granting that all three of your boyfriends were three years long.
	You sounds like you've had long periods of celibacy.
	Could this is this true?
	Yes, I have had long periods.
	How long have you been?
	What's the longest period of celibacy?
	Like a year and a half, under a year and a half.
	Stop the cow.
	What was your longest relationship?
	Three years.
	I don't believe it.
	You a fucking liar.
	I don't believe it.
	I don't believe it.
	What did they call you?
	Karma?
	At the strip club?
	What was your stripper name?
	What was your stripper name?
	Beatrice?
	What was it?
	It was Stella.
	Stella.
	That's cute.
	Listen up, Stella.
	I'm going to put up with this lion shit.
	Stella, tell us the truth.
	How many gentlemen have you fornicated with?
	Math is not math.
	It's not math and Stella.
	Three.
	Stella.
	Wait, what's the fuck?
	A tugboat named Desire?
	That's definitely.
	Streetcar named Desire.
	That's definitely not the name of the movie.
	Yeah, streetcar.
	Thank you.
	Good.
	You're smart.
	You should be on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
	No, I'm not.
	Is that still around?
	I don't know.
	You should be on Jeopardy.
	I do like Jeopardy, but I don't think I'm going to do it.
	Oh, well, I am on Fluoxetine.
	I love that for you.
	I feel like you'd be a good caregiver of like old people.
	I think I work better with the dead than the living.
	Oh, okay.
	I do my best to help people, but I'm more of a, I like to do the embalming portion of sometimes in talking to families.
	I've gotten a lot better at it, but it was a bit of an uphill climb to learn that skill.
	Well, did I play this?
	I'm going to play five by three, and that's the real number.
	For the body count, Felicity, can you read this from Vector?
	Example of sensibility.
	If a random woman puts hand on shoulder of other woman, emotional connection.
	But if man puts hand on a random woman, ew, assault vibes.
	I think it really depends.
	Yeah, really.
	I don't touch people, so I would be assaulted.
	Unless they're dead.
	Well, yes, but like my family just never like puts their arms or like hands on each other's shoulders or elbows.
	And then when I went, was a student at IU, I saw people doing that when they talked.
	And I'm like, people do that?
	No, it's just, it's something I had to learn.
	But my family doesn't do that.
	To me, I would be a little weirded out depending on the context.
	Exactly.
	Maybe only in America, Canadians are really touchy.
	I'm from the Midwest, so it's got its own special level of weird.
	Okay, moving on to the next thing.
	A woman should not be rejected because of her weight, to which Emily, you agree.
	Marsha.
	Escobar, you agree.
	Is that your last name?
	Never mind.
	Sorry.
	That was stupid.
	That was a really bad one.
	Can't win them all.
	A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	Iris, agree.
	Cena, agree.
	That's pretty much it.
	Why?
	What would be wrong with rejecting a woman because of her weight?
	Well, I think, especially if you're in a long-term relationship with someone, you know, the human body has different seasons of the life, and your body will change with time, whether you like it or not.
	And I think people should understand that sometimes weight gain is a natural process, especially if you're going to get pregnant, for example.
	But you'd, I mean, the question is not because you wouldn't.
	The question is more so, like, you don't typically reject the person you're already dating.
	You would break up with them.
	So, by usage of the word reject, and I mean, I apologize if this isn't clear.
	I'm usually talking about like the initial thing.
	Like, looking at the dating pool, like, what your preferences are.
	Is that what you're doing?
	Like, if an overweight person hits on you and you're like, I don't want to be with you because I'm not attracted to people that are overweight.
	Is that wrong?
	I think so.
	I think you should give someone a chance.
	I was taking it as kind of like, why would somebody reject someone that they're talking to in the first place?
	Well, hold on.
	What are the circumstances under which people get rejected?
	Personal preferences.
	Oh, I mean, people definitely do that.
	Guys, guys, guys, here's the prompt.
	A woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	It says nothing about being married to them.
	It says nothing about being in a long-term relationship with them.
	It says nothing about you've been talking for one, two, three weeks.
	No, nothing.
	When we're talking about rejection, we're talking about like an immediate upfront sort of thing.
	Is it okay to reject a woman because of her weight?
	Yes.
	I mean, you can still disagree, but like if I see a problem.
	How about this?
	Fat girl comes up to me and maybe when I was a little thinner, I was, I mean, I'd still probably, but whatever.
	Not turning red.
	I'm always red.
	You haven't been red this long.
	I'm permanently fucked up.
	It's okay.
	It was okay.
	Get me red.
	Give me her Korean skincare routine.
	Or Chinese skincare routine.
	Or Canadian.
	Never mind.
	Would it be okay for me if a fat girl came up to me and she was like, ayo, Brian, let me get in them draws, dog?
	Okay, she didn't say that.
	Maybe.
	But she said, hey, yo, Brian, let me clap them cheeks.
	No, no, no.
	She didn't say that.
	She's not attracted to you.
	Ayo, Brian.
	She says, Ayo, Brian, let me wear your skin as a suit.
	So hold on.
	Hey, Brian, I think you're cute.
	Can I go on a date with you?
	What would be wrong with me saying sorry?
	I wouldn't even say.
	What would be wrong with me internally rejecting her?
	Well, nothing.
	No one would ever know because it's in your head.
	If you say it to her, that's pretty crappy.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	Because, like, I just simply point out women reject men for all kinds of reasons.
	Height, you know, money, whatever it is.
	Men can also reject women for pretty much any reason, too.
	Wrong for a man.
	Wait, let's see.
	Did anybody circle 13?
	Wrong for a man, Marsha, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	Iris also agrees.
	I don't agree with that.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Yeah.
	I still agree with it.
	And the reason why is because that man might not be taking care of himself.
	John.
	Sorry.
	John Moss, you didn't take a shower.
	You didn't wash your ass with soap.
	Sorry.
	Had to.
	I had to.
	But assuming that God was.
	Oh, well, I tried to help him.
	I tried to say, like, hey, you can do this, such and such.
	Yes.
	That's why I went ahead and said, good thing you weren't together.
	Anymore, thankfully, because gosh, bad or man, yes, and then he would be like, hey, let me know if I stay because that's an insecurity of mine, but yet he didn't want to take care of that insecurity when it was brought to his attention.
	I mean, that's valid.
	I had to teach my ex how to shower too.
	Yeah.
	But why didn't you stay with me?
	Don't know how to shower.
	Well, we correctly.
	Like, it was like the first couple months we started dating.
	I went over to his house and I wanted to take a shower.
	And this is really bad.
	All he had in there, he's like a guy.
	He has like purple shampoo.
	Oh, no body wash and just a yellow dish sponge.
	And I was like, what?
	You need a really diabolical.
	No way.
	Did it have the scratchy side on it too?
	Yes.
	And so I was like, I'm going to buy you a loofah.
	And I bought him a loofah and like all types of like body wash.
	I showed him how to use it and wash his body.
	And now he knows now.
	I mean, yeah.
	Okay, but when they don't learn, that's a different fact.
	John knows.
	I think it's important to have a dialogue before you just kick someone to the curb about not why you're watching.
	I agree.
	You can have to try.
	I have a good one related.
	Well, I don't know if it's super related to hygiene, but would it be a deal breaker if the guy won't kiss you after you give him a head?
	Yes, that's so weird.
	Yeah.
	I think it's a deal breaker.
	I don't think it is.
	I don't know what it is.
	It's rude.
	I don't think I would.
	I think it would be a deal breaker.
	I think I would be like, I'm not coming back here.
	Do you think your penis is dirty?
	Is that why?
	No, it's just like fluids up in there.
	I don't know.
	At least brush your teeth.
	Well, you don't even kiss.
	Is he not going to kiss his kids when they're born?
	If you're not comfortable with that, then.
	No, if her mouth is being used as a receptacle for semen, no, you can't.
	Even if it, you know, there's pre-coming shit.
	No.
	Brush your teeth, mouthwash, three-hour cooling down period.
	Oh my gosh.
	You just said time or dumb.
	Look, I just, look, sexual boundaries.
	It's a sexuality.
	No, no, it's okay.
	Everybody has their own.
	I don't want to do that after I don't want to kiss your face.
	But it has caused me, ladies.
	Let me tell you, oh my God, the amount of problems this has caused is fucking crazy.
	Well, I think it's so upset.
	Some of them are like fine with it, but like some of them are like, maybe he could be a little up front.
	I don't know what happens, but if she like goes to kissing, you're like, no, and like slap her face away, maybe that's an issue.
	I think it's because he, like, I would, if a guy did that to me, I think it was, it's because he thinks he's dirty.
	You know, I'd be like, what did I just do?
	Like, yeah, I'd be like, isn't that clean?
	Yeah, maybe, you know, that's not the most romantic thing.
	So I'm just, shit.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, good talk.
	What else?
	Okay.
	Oh, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	I think I'm fine with it, but whatever.
	A woman's.
	Let's see here.
	Let's.
	We can't do all of these for the sake of time, but we'll do a few more pre-show notes and we'll try to, you know.
	Okay.
	Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
	You agree?
	Emily, excuse me, you agree?
	Marcia agrees.
	Iris.
	Wait.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	18.
	18.
	Sorry, guys.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Okay, Iris, no.
	Okay, it's just you three.
	Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
	Why?
	I think I would.
	A few years ago I would have, I know, a hot topic but um, a few years ago I would have probably been a little more inclined to say they do.
	But then, after Roe Versus Wade got overturned and kind of disagree with that now.
	So okay, and what about you?
	What do you think?
	Um, I just think of just all of the women who were rejected jobs or positions or just kind of.
	Also, like, my mom went through a really big issue at her job where this, one of her supervisors was trying to just always, like, challenge her as a woman and hated the fact that she was going to become a captain.
	And just seeing, like, those types of things, like, no, like, it's not equal.
	Like, it's, we're constantly being challenged more.
	We have to prove that we can do it more.
	And, yeah.
	it's just like not equal.
	And also, I have seen multiple of my entrepreneur friends that are male and female and it's literally so easy for a man to start a business and for, like investors to take him seriously compared to a woman.
	It is because i've seen it firsthand.
	Rights yeah so look, we can get into like in society ways and ways in which men and women are mistreated or whatever.
	But the question is specifically about rights, legal rights like, so what rights and the same rights, equal rights?
	Do you think we have the same rights according to the U.s constitution and everything and that?
	But once again, I think the only thing I really split hairs on is Roe versus Wade.
	Yeah, but really quick on the on Roe V Wade or abortion or whatever you.
	You do acknowledge men can't have abortions, so how would this be like an inequality of rights?
	Um, I just think that this is kind of a women's health care issue and I think that you know that's very important thing, and the fact that what would that have to do with an inequality between men and women, though men would have to possess a right that women don't.
	So the government, for example, like, uh, if it not that this would ever be the case, but if men could say to their girlfriend, I want you to get an abortion, and she had to get an abortion or something, I don't know how that would ever work, but whatever uh and, but women couldn't get an abortion.
	That would be unequal.
	But men uh, men can't prevent abortion, men can't force women to get an abortion.
	So how would it be an inequality of rights?
	Well, when you frame it that way, it's not.
	But okay, i'll take the w then um unless no, it's okay yeah, so thank you appreciate it.
	Yeah, I mean, there's no, but men don't have any reproductive rights, men don't have really anything.
	So um, it is a woman's issue, you could say, but it wouldn't be evidence of men have x, women don't have x, it's just yeah actually, if you wanted equality between men and women, you would have to completely make abortion illegal.
	why don't you elaborate them well basically so if we're talking about equalizing rights so currently my my position is men don't have any reproductive rights men like i said they can't force women to get abortions and they can't prevent forcefully women to not get abortions so In order for women to have equal rights to men,
	you'd basically, unless you bring men up here, which I don't know how you do that, you'd have to bring women down here for there to be equality of rights.
	So you'd have to completely walk back women's abortion rights for there to be equality between men and women on this issue.
	It's kind of in the weeds beddling.
	That's not the W. That's not in the weeds.
	That's pretty much splitting up abortions.
	Right, exactly.
	So to create equality between men and women, that's irrelevant.
	Equality would dictate women couldn't have abortion rights.
	That literally doesn't make sense, but okay.
	Makes sense to me.
	I'm sure it does.
	Chat, does it make sense to you?
	Does it make sense to you?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	You also write, women do not have, or sorry, women, no, my bad.
	Men are more privileged in society.
	Wait, hold on.
	No, no, let's start here.
	Women are oppressed in the USA.
	You agree, Emily?
	I think that's pretty much it.
	Just you, Emily.
	Why is that?
	Well, I don't think it's bad compared to a lot of other countries, but I think there are little things.
	I don't think other than, once again, Roe versus Wade, I don't think there's any major legal things.
	But I think there's little things, but I know you mentioned that you didn't really want to talk about little societal examples.
	Well, okay.
	I mean, do you think women, are you oppressed?
	No, there's little micro things that get old.
	It's not necessarily someone wakes up one day and they're like, I'm going to go be mean to her because she's a woman, ideally.
	But like, for example, one time at a job I had, I had a really stressful day at work.
	This isn't at the funeral home.
	This was when I baked desserts.
	One of the guys in the kitchen threw out a key component to a dessert I was making on top of it already being a stressful situation.
	And I kept telling him, could you not do that?
	Could you please do this in the future so we don't have this issue again?
	And he just wasn't getting it.
	He just was convinced I was being hysterical at him.
	And it just drove, it made me so flustered, I just kind of gave up.
	And then a male co-worker explained the exact same thing to him in this similar manner, and he got it.
	Okay.
	I don't know if that would be like evidence of oppression.
	Like I can get some people are shitty.
	Well, I don't know, micro.
	Okay.
	Like people are jerks, assholes, whatever.
	I don't know if it's necessarily due to sexism or any of this sort of thing.
	I don't think it would be evidence of oppression, really.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Men are more privileged in society.
	You agree?
	You agree?
	I think that's pretty much it.
	How are men more privileged in society than women?
	I mean, I already kind of explained a little bit about that on like the whole job situation.
	And I just think men have it way easier to be an entrepreneur, to get jobs.
	I just do, based off personal experience.
	What do you think?
	One example, I believe, it's kind of talking about the rating scales.
	I believe men are allowed to age in a way that women aren't.
	I'm having a bad day out there.
	You know, I never, I see a lot of elderly men, or especially like celebrity elderly women, I don't always hear people say, well, he has really let himself go.
	But I do with women, and then it's kind of a catch-22 because if they're scared of aging naturally, like, for example, Pamela Anderson, I thought she looked great without her makeup.
	She started doing that kind of as a statement.
	But, you know, if women went the opposite way where they got plastic surgery, fillers, Botox, then they'd be like, God, she's trying too hard.
	She looked better natural.
	It just seemed like a lose-lose.
	Okay, but I mean so you're saying men are more privileged in society because they have a longer shelf life.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I don't think anyone has a shelf life.
	Jeez.
	Isn't that what you were essentially saying, though?
	Men are...
	That's what other people believe.
	Like age, better.
	Better or whatever.
	That's what I've been told by rude people, but yes.
	Well, I think women benefit far more from pretty privilege than men do in totality.
	So, I mean, maybe men, like the age range that people will broadly deem men as attractive is larger, but I would still say women reap way more benefits generally from pretty privilege than the reverse.
	Like you have a 23-year-old woman who gets, alleges, claims she's paid $10,000 a month every month from 10 different men.
	That's over a million dollars a year.
	Men don't have any, I don't care how good looking the guy is.
	There's really not, you can't just go find 10 women who'll just give you 10 grand.
	Women aren't simpy like that.
	There's some, but most women.
	Yes.
	Some, but like women really don't move that way.
	Like it's easy for a woman to find a sugar daddy.
	It's really, there's not that many sugar there because you guys always want to, well, there's some sugar mamas out there.
	Okay, cool.
	And I bet the ones that do, they don't spend nearly as much as these men do.
	And there's far fewer of them.
	And they probably want way more strings attached, et cetera, et cetera.
	I also think men are taken more seriously often.
	Sometimes when I've had, tried to have debates, our heart hurts with people.
	They've just not taken me seriously.
	Or sometimes when I've been very enraged, I've not been taken seriously.
	Enged.
	Okay.
	You know, if I were like a big guy and I showed the same amount of emotion, someone would be scared of me.
	Perhaps.
	Per chance.
	But I mean.
	By the way, guys, we are going to we probably won't do like a lower tier roast tonight, but just because it's already pretty late.
	We're going to do $69 roast, guys.
	It won't be lowered, just for the sake of time.
	$69 TTS.
	That's the roast threshold.
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	So if you guys want to get a roast in, normally we started a little sooner.
	Otherwise, we would do it, you know, lower it.
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	Okay, well.
	I mean, men are more privileged in society than women.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Oh, we have this.
	Emily, you, I guess I'll just move it on.
	Women are just as physically strong as men.
	I think it's in regards to different things, but I believe strength can be measured in different ways.
	And then...
	Well, physically strong, but I agree with you.
	Well, I don't know if that's what you're trying to say, but physical strength can be measured in different ways.
	But is it your position that women are just as physically strong as men?
	Possibly, yes.
	Like, well, for example, at my job, we move whole people, and you can't just chuck them around.
	Otherwise, that'll upset the family.
	Yeah, don't do that.
	That's bad.
	You know, there's a kind of, when you move people, it's not so much about brute strength, but leverage and finesse.
	And so there are times, especially if I've been able to move someone better than one of my male coworkers.
	But then again, you do have your limits.
	So.
	So what's the position?
	I really think it depends on the strength and the person.
	So.
	You do realize, though, these questions are kind of general statements.
	They're not meant to be interpreted as if there are, for example, women are just as physically strong as men.
	This wouldn't be some.
	If we're talking about this generally, this wouldn't preclude like a given woman.
	Like there's probably women who are stronger than me.
	There's plenty of women who are stronger than plenty of men.
	But speaking generally, do you think it's the case that women are just as physically strong as men?
	Yes.
	Generally speaking?
	Yes.
	Depending, once again, like for example, I grew up in a farming community.
	Are the male farmers stronger than the female farmers?
	Well, my grandfather was a farmer and he had seven children and majority of them were women or girls at the time.
	And he sent them all out to do the same farm work because a body's a body.
	But do you think that if he had grandsons, he would have still sent the woman out, like the daughters out?
	He only had two sons, so I don't know, but probably.
	I mean, he definitely wouldn't have let his daughters lounge around the house and just clean.
	But you're saying that he would have sent.
	I have three younger brothers, and I would just like to chime in here and say that three younger brothers, it doesn't matter how much I work out.
	They're all going to be able to rough house me and tumble me down.
	And we grew up on a farm.
	We all went out and did the same farm work.
	I had to help bail the hay, carry the grain in the water buckets.
	And it didn't matter how much I tried.
	My brothers could carry more as far as like the weight in the water buckets than I could.
	They could lift more 50-pound bags of grain at a time than I could.
	My max was two.
	Theirs was like, hey, sis, let's do three or four and see if you can do it.
	I'm going to hurt my back.
	So generally speaking, I do believe that men are stronger than women.
	There are exceptions, but since this is a generalization, looking at everyone, obviously men have the physical characteristics that make them stronger, which is good.
	Yeah.
	If you want to go with that, then men naturally have more muscle mass.
	But if that's the case, why would you agree with the statement?
	I know you don't like, sometimes things are a little more nuanced.
	I know some.
	There's no nuance.
	There's no nuance here.
	So, like, I don't think if you just uncharitably interpreted this question to mean that no women are ever, ever stronger than a man.
	Like, that's, I don't think that that's implied in the question.
	Like, this is clearly a sort of generalized question.
	Talking about the average here.
	But do you average, are women, on average, are women just as physically strong as men?
	No.
	But what's the nuance?
	Like I said before, you do meet women who are stronger than men.
	Sometimes it depends on the task.
	And at the end of the day, a human body is a human body if you needed to do work.
	Okay, but so hypothetical.
	If there was only, if it was true, and it is, that there are women who are stronger than men.
	But let's say there was only one woman, one woman in the world that was stronger than one man.
	And then all the other men were stronger than all the women.
	But there's one woman who was stronger.
	Do you think it would be like incorrect to say that men are physically stronger than women?
	No, it wouldn't, but I'm just curious why you're asking that and what you're implying by it.
	Well, some people actually legitimately believe that women are just as physically strong as men, which is not true generally.
	It's not true on average.
	Men are physically stronger than women.
	So it wasn't so much a dig at women not being able to do any sort of physical labor?
	No, it's just to see if there's a strain of feminism that's like women are just as strong as men and they're not hi-ya, they can kick ass.
	It's like, well, if that was the case, then the boxing series would be men and women.
	No, literally, I'll never box a man on that round.
	Women can't compete.
	And I'm not sure.
	I mean, how about this?
	I don't know if you're much into sports, but you do acknowledge, for example, that if you were to put, let's just go, I mean, go elite for elite, the best women athletes, whatever the sport, whatever the event, you put them up against the elite men, the women get complete, like women would completely lose everything.
	There's one long distance race event.
	I don't recall, I don't know, it's like 4,000, I don't know what it is, whatever.
	There's one long distance running event where women will edge out men.
	Everything else, men would completely destroy women in sports.
	Do you acknowledge that?
	Okay, here, let's do this.
	Soccer.
	You put the elite men versus the elite women.
	Who wins?
	I don't know enough about soccer.
	How about football?
	Which in that case, I'd say men would.
	Why would they win in football, but not in soccer?
	One, I don't know exactly.
	You don't know about soccer?
	know it's kicking a ball but i'm sure there's more to it than that you just your gut instinct if you just i feel like soccer doesn't use as much upper body strength It uses more lower balls.
	It's all your, well, I mean, you might say, like, okay, there's core and like, does having strong upper body help with running or whatever?
	But soccer's a lower body sport.
	Lower body coordination, all these sorts of things.
	It's mostly lower body.
	I think a lot more women have a lot more strength in the lower body than the upper body.
	Oh, women.
	Well, hold on.
	That would be true about men, too.
	Everybody has more strength in their lower body than in their upper body, absent like injury or something.
	That's why leg day is always easier than arm day.
	Like, like, naturally, almost anybody can squat more than they can bicep curl or that they can push.
	Yeah.
	Like, just naturally.
	So, I'm a bit, are you saying women have more lower body strength than men?
	Sometimes.
	Yes, there are some women.
	Next question.
	Yeah, that's an extra story.
	But you realize it's really bad faith to do this thing where you say sometime.
	Like, I don't know, sometime there's more.
	You know what?
	How about this?
	Are women more feminine than men?
	Sometimes.
	That's my sense of what you're saying.
	But you would acknowledge it.
	But it would be like, well, hold on.
	No, sometimes there's some men who are more feminine than some women.
	That wouldn't disprove the general point that generally women are more feminine.
	Correct.
	Men are more masculine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	So soccer, do you think men, the elite men would beat the elite women?
	Sure, I don't know anything about soccer.
	Okay, tennis.
	Yes.
	Golf.
	Is golf a sport?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what physical attributes you even need for golf.
	Rugby.
	It's just men.
	Yes.
	It's like football.
	Basketball.
	Men.
	Okay.
	Quidditch.
	I don't think that's a sport, but good.
	That's definitely a sport in Hogwarts.
	Okay, Harry Potter.
	Which house are you?
	Polo?
	That's some up to the horses.
	Okay.
	Excuse me.
	All right.
	Well, okay.
	How about weightlifting?
	Most likely, men naturally have more weight.
	Yes, that's especially upper body.
	Okay, running.
	I do run.
	I ran competitively in high school, and I saw a lot of both.
	So.
	Hold on.
	Especially.
	You ran in high school.
	Yes.
	And from your first-hand experience, you didn't notice that the men were faster than the women.
	Well, there was.
	Because they ran our races together.
	Can I guess?
	It depends.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	You ran the races.
	No, they break up together.
	But I went to a smaller school.
	So sometimes people didn't want to watch a bunch of kids on the track for two miles twice.
	So they would just run boys and girls for the two mile at the same time.
	And then they just grade them separately.
	Grade them.
	Grade?
	Yeah, because you have your times when you cross the finish line.
	Whoever had the shortest time got the most points for track.
	Wait, hold on.
	Your grade in track was.
	Hold on, what?
	Grading may not be the best word.
	So for competitive track, at least where the high school I went to.
	Like you could get a C if you had to.
	No, not like that, but like they score.
	How about score might be?
	Okay.
	Yeah, however, they scored.
	No, no.
	Okay, I was like, well, shit, these people who lose just get an F, I guess.
	No, not like that.
	You can still participate and lose the race.
	Okay, whatever.
	Okay, for racing, though, I didn't get a clear answer.
	Are men faster than women?
	You know what I'm going to say.
	Okay, the 100-meter sprint, 100-yard sprint.
	Probably men.
	Probably.
	Why not just 100% men?
	But okay.
	What about the mile?
	Are men faster than women?
	Generally.
	Generally.
	How about that?
	400-meter.
	That's one lap, right?
	400-meter?
	Yes.
	One lap.
	Who's faster?
	One lap.
	Probably more men.
	All right.
	All right.
	That's it for the questionnaire.
	Guys, get the roasts in.
	What the fuck, boys?
	Get some fucking roasts in, guys.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, let's pull this up.
	Can you read?
	Do these ladies have real jobs or just OnlyFans crap?
	Sorry, I needed your channel.
	Found you through Charlie, but these conversations are shocking to me.
	I was born in the 80s, so call me old, but I'll pray for them.
	Pick up.
	Actually, only Cena there has OnlyFans.
	So everybody else here has normal jobs, I guess you could say.
	Thank you, though.
	Allie, welcome to the channel.
	W Allie, thank you for the super chat.
	$69 TTS, guys, if you want to get it in.
	Okay, we're going to do a couple of we're going to do the pre-show notes now, and then we'll wrap up.
	We're going to blast through these as quick as possible.
	Why don't we start with Marsha?
	You got robbed because your boyfriend made you wait outside his house too long.
	What happened?
	Tell us the quick story.
	Okay, so it was my first relationship and I was a little naive and I was just very in love and we were together for like three years and I was like head over heels over him, but he was He was he was a gangbanger.
	No, no, he He was cheating.
	No, he was cheating and at the well He had like he had cheated on me and But we were still trying to like work through it and anyway, so I like went over to his house to pick him up because we were gonna go get food and it was like late at night.
	I think it was like 11 p.m.
	And he doesn't live in like the best area.
	And at the time, I remember I was like smoking.
	So I had my window rolled down and I was just waiting for him to come out and I was texting him telling him to hurry because it was dark and I was scared.
	And then two Hispanic men approached my window, but my window was like halfway down.
	You were in your car?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And I'm like, and I'm just like on my phone, like texting him, like to hurry up because like it's hella dark and I'm like scared.
	And then as I'm texting him, two men come up to my window and they knock on my window and then I turn over to the side and then they start like complimenting me.
	They're like, oh, you're so beautiful.
	Like let me get your number, blah, blah.
	And then I said, no, like I have a boyfriend.
	Like, and I kind of like shooed them away.
	And then I didn't roll up my window.
	I just like looked to the right because my boyfriend's house was on the right side.
	And I like started like texting.
	I'm like, hurry, like these men are.
	And then because I had heard, because they walked away after.
	So I was like, hurry.
	Like these men just came up.
	I was like texting that.
	And then I heard like footsteps like running towards me.
	And then I like, I like look to my like window and all I see is like a gun straight in my face.
	And then I like start spinning and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
	And I look down and I'm bleeding profusely.
	And I'm like, oh no, this is real life.
	Marsha, you better like get your shit together.
	And then that.
	You got pistol whipped?
	Yes.
	And then I like look up and I'm like listening to everything.
	And then I like couldn't hear.
	Everything was slow motion.
	I like couldn't hear anything and I was moving slow.
	And then all of a sudden everything went fast and it was like, bitch, get the fuck out, bitch, get the fuck out.
	Like you're gonna get killed if you don't get out.
	And I was like, oh my God, like I'm gonna get, I really thought I was gonna die.
	I was like, this is, this is the end.
	Like my boyfriend's literally gonna catch me outside.
	He's gonna be traumatized for the rest of his life.
	And like Marsha's gonna be dead.
	And I couldn't even open the door.
	I was like so like shook.
	I like grabbed, thankfully I had my phone and I popped out through my window and I started running towards his house.
	And then I just like, I just had like the feeling that they were gonna shoot my back.
	So I was like, I need to lay down.
	And I just like lay down on the grass.
	And then I heard my car go, skirt.
	And then they took it.
	And then I started, I was trying to text him and my hands would not work.
	I literally couldn't walk.
	I couldn't.
	Yeah, I was like, I just started screaming.
	I just got screaming at his name.
	I was like, whatever his name was when I could say it.
	But I was like, I was screaming his name.
	And then he, Rupert.
	And then Rupert.
	Rupert.
	And then he came out and he came out.
	And then he was like, why are you yelling?
	He was like, why are you yelling?
	And I'm literally like bleeding.
	And I'm like, and I'm, I can't even talk to him.
	I'm like, yes, I have a little scar right here, but you can't, I have makeup over it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then I was like, I was like, I just got, and I couldn't talk.
	I was like, I just got, I just got my cars, my car.
	I was like, you need to get in your car.
	We need to call the police.
	He was like, wait, he was like, are you lying?
	And I was like, no, I was like, my car is gone.
	Like, I just got pistol whipped.
	And then he started crying.
	And then he was like, fuck.
	And then he disclosed.
	He was like, he was like, okay, don't be mad at me.
	He's like, he's like, I have a solution.
	He's like, I was like, I have a solution.
	He's like, we're going to call the cops.
	But he's like, he's like, I have to tell you something.
	And I was like, what?
	He was like, I have a tracker in your car.
	I was like, oh, interesting.
	But it ended up working.
	Yeah, he gave the cops his phone and they found my car because he had a tracker in my car.
	So my first sex was crazy.
	Wow.
	I guess that kind of worked out though.
	It did.
	It did because I wasn't expecting that.
	Wow.
	Wait.
	And where did this take place?
	What part of LA?
	It actually took place in the valley in San Fernando Valley, which is even crazier.
	Was it white guys?
	No, it said it was Hispanic.
	Hispanic, okay.
	I don't know.
	It's the fucking valley.
	Maybe it's the valley.
	No, it was like two Hispanics.
	Why dude?
	It was the scariest thing I've seen.
	Grand Theft Autoing all over the world.
	I had like PTSD.
	I couldn't be in cars at nighttime for like a year and a half.
	I literally would be like, like, looking everywhere and like, oh my God, wait.
	This is going to sound crazy.
	Chat, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
	Boyfriend set you up.
	That's what everybody thought.
	I said, but that's, he wouldn't, like, he didn't set me up.
	He literally started crying.
	And then, and then he's just like, that's just not his vibe.
	He just made me wait too long.
	Why is he outside?
	Because he's because he's like, he's fucked up.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I thought you were about to say some race of shit, but what is going on in your head?
	Yeah.
	That girl, your friend, Madam Houston, she said.
	No, I'm so crazy.
	Colored people time.
	Listen, I'm not talking to you.
	I'm talking to her.
	Oh, you're talking about her.
	Madam Houston.
	She said, I would never say this, by the way.
	She said CPT.
	Colored people time.
	Yeah.
	And then Kelsey calls it Caucasian people time.
	Okay, that was a joke.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's a joke.
	She didn't say that.
	I'm making it.
	Sometimes we do be a little late.
	It's okay.
	You were on time.
	Good for you.
	There's the two Mexican.
	Sorry, sorry, Latina.
	Women, my bad.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	She's Mexican.
	She's a little Mexican.
	I'm sorry.
	There's other.
	I don't know.
	There's other Latinas.
	There's Puerto Ricans.
	Are Cubans?
	Cubano, Cubano.
	Cubanos.
	Cubana.
	Cubana.
	You know, there's Costa Ricans, there's Panamanians, there's Peruvians, Chileans, there's Argentinians.
	Spain.
	So, okay, you got robbed.
	Nice.
	You also dated your best friend and you took her from her man.
	I did.
	I did.
	She was in the wrong relationship, though.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you swooped.
	You swiped.
	I did.
	You stole.
	Let's see here.
	You say men don't try anymore.
	Dating is whack nowadays.
	Yeah.
	And that's why I date women.
	Look, I think we got to be in our sparkle-sparkle era as men.
	You guys kind of are.
	Our sassy man apocalypse.
	I think us men, we got to take a step back, do as little work as possible and kind of let the women.
	Just let the women do everything.
	That's what I mean.
	That's what they do.
	Let the women do all the work.
	Just kidding.
	But seriously, but for reals.
	Oh, going to Kelsey.
	Kelsey, you know, look, you've only been with one guy.
	You've been divorced.
	No rebounds.
	You said you're waiting until marriage for like you 100% waiting until marriage?
	Or like, what if a really nice, nice guy from Indiana comes along and is like, doesn't want to wait?
	You know, would you date him?
	Like, would you do it or not?
	You were waiting until marriage.
	I'd say too bad.
	I'm sorry.
	You cannot milk the cow without buying.
	I want a ring on it.
	Can't milk the cow.
	But what if you just sleep with him?
	Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
	And what if it isn't bad?
	Yeah.
	What if you sleep with him and it's bad?
	You don't connect.
	I know.
	Bad?
	Like, if it's okay, you have to define bad because some people are different.
	Okay, you do not enjoy the sex.
	Or what if he like made you care?
	That's her husband, though.
	Well, men could turn around and say the same thing about women.
	I was a virgin.
	Was I a gambling?
	Was he gambling with me being a virgin?
	Was that a risk that he saw, or was that an opportunity?
	Because that's for us to have intimacy and grow together and learn.
	Is that an opportunity for me to say to my husband, like, hey, how can I serve you today?
	Hey, is there anything that you'd like to do differently?
	You know, being open to that, it's like I grow and learn with my partner.
	We do that together.
	We share that bond that I and also like I can sleep at night knowing that I save myself.
	I don't have to sit there on first, second, third, fourth date and be like, Yeah, so you're not like Romeo and you're not like Steven.
	Stephen was like, da-da-da-da.
	Like he didn't have to be compared.
	And that's something that I wanted to do for him.
	I didn't want him to have a comparison.
	I just wanted it to be him, you know?
	I wish I was worse than that.
	Remind me of my mom.
	Oh, is your mom like that?
	My mom's only dated my dad.
	My parents are together, by the way.
	And my mom's only had sex with my dad.
	She waited till marriage.
	And she's never gone in.
	I don't know about this about you, but she's never gone in drunk.
	She's never taken a shot.
	She's never smoked.
	She's very much like mom vibes.
	Yeah.
	My mom is like that.
	Yeah.
	It's fun to just have that.
	Yeah.
	She lives a great, happy life.
	She's like the happiest woman.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I encourage other women to do it just because you don't have to worry also about does someone have like an STI or 100% STD coming into the relationship.
	Those are my personal preferences.
	No, I can't.
	I just don't have to worry about that.
	I love that view.
	Yeah.
	I've been celibate for two years.
	Awesome.
	Good for you.
	So that's my stance on it.
	So for like a year and a half.
	God designed sex for marriage and it's in that confines.
	And so going along with Christian beliefs, I believe it's holy and sacred and it should be treated like that.
	And people should be respected in the relationship too, coming into it.
	I don't want to objectify you and I don't want you to object.
	You can objectify me.
	I'm okay.
	Women can objectify away.
	No hoes.
	Objectify away, women.
	You want to use me for my body?
	Go ahead.
	Steph knows what I'm talking about.
	Objectify away.
	I just think we should respect women.
	Do you want to be my reader?
	Wait, my relax.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Nine.
	Him?
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't have said anything.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, wait, I can.
	I'm above the threshold.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we'll pull these up.
	One sec.
	Here, yeah, read this one.
	Felicity.
	FGM is considered a human rights violation by the Center for Reproductive Rights.
	There are no such protections for MGM chair two.
	Is there anything that is allowed for male or female corpses that aren't allowed for the opposite sex corpses?
	No.
	We'll do whatever needs to be done to make sure someone's sanitized, well-preserved, and presentable for their family.
	Now, certain religions may require certain things to be done.
	And usually in that case, there's a practitioner from the religion that'll come in and do that.
	For example, for Islamic families, they'll have a group of people from the mosque.
	And if it's a woman, it'll be a group of women.
	If it's a man, it'll be a group of men that'll use our prep room to walk bathe someone and get them ready for their service.
	So, anyways, we do a segment.
	Sorry.
	I'm such a dick.
	Okay.
	We do a segment where everybody takes off their makeup.
	You guys game?
	You game?
	I wanted to wait.
	Yeah, we're taking pictures after this.
	We take pictures for our socials.
	Yeah, for social media.
	We're doing content after we have content day after we're going to be.
	We're going to be so beautiful without the makeup.
	We definitely are.
	I look this is part of the makeup or without.
	I don't even know why you would take pictures with makeup because you're already so beautiful.
	No, it's not about being beautiful.
	It's about the whole, like you have a makeup look to match the outfits.
	Yeah, the hair fashion girl.
	It's like expression.
	I guess it's fashion.
	It's not to look beautiful.
	Where are you going, Cina?
	It's going to the bathroom.
	Oh, she's going to, you got to do it in the bathroom.
	Wait, makeup?
	Makeup?
	Will you guys take your makeup off?
	Anybody?
	I was going to take my makeup off.
	I look the same with or without it.
	Whoa, wait, Felicity.
	Oh, you're just doing your.
	Why do you put it on your chest?
	Because it needs to blend properly.
	It's not wearing.
	Also, you're saving me a stun because when I get it, what time is it?
	It's past my bedtime.
	It's, we're going to wrap very soon.
	That's what time it is.
	So hold it up.
	Hold up the damage.
	Hold up the damage.
	I wear a lot of eye hair.
	Felicity reads.
	Aside from chair two, seven.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	And I like never.
	You're not going to take eyelashes on, and I kind of want to play.
	That's not bad, Kelsey.
	You guys.
	This thing might make me look a little bit.
	Aside from chair two, seven, and nine, y'all are ordinary boom, roasted, W, whatever, W, whatever, stuff.
	Boom, roasted.
	I mean, I don't know if he's like coming for me or if he likes me.
	Because I'm whatever staff, but I'm chair eight.
	Are you into him?
	No, I'm just saying.
	Oh, yeah, so chair nine would be.
	You talking shit about fucking Christopher, bro?
	Hell yeah.
	Bro, hold on.
	What the fuck, dude?
	Are you fucking kidding me right now, dude?
	Are you fucking serious?
	Yeah, nigga, we will go mash you.
	What?
	That's my boy, yo.
	Why are you talking shit about Christopher, dog?
	Bro.
	Hey, Essay.
	Oh, my.
	Relax.
	Relax.
	Chill out, homie.
	Hey, don't talk to me like that, dog.
	Oh, no.
	Hey, get the fuck out of here, Felicity.
	I would like to.
	That's my fucking homie dog.
	Bro.
	Don't you.
	Brian, chair nine.
	That's yours.
	Yes.
	No, for real.
	Chair nine.
	No, it's an more than homies.
	Show some fucking respect.
	Essay.
	Crying.
	Hey, Essay.
	Show some fucking respect.
	You're so butchering it.
	Hey, shut up, Felicity, dog.
	You're from Santa Barbara and you don't even can't even do the proper accent.
	Fucking dad.
	I don't know why that was so funny.
	I'm getting tired.
	That might be why it's gonna look in a lower turn.
	Hey, listen.
	Don't wink at me.
	I didn't fucking wink, dog.
	What the fuck?
	You think something's wrong with my eyes?
	Yeah.
	He definitely needs a snicker.
	Hey, Essay.
	Come down, yo.
	Come down, Holmes.
	Don't play me like that, dog.
	Oh, what the fuck am I doing?
	You can't.
	You can't.
	You're turning in.
	Yeah, I'm like a damn one.
	Do your British thing or whatever you do.
	No, I kind of like it.
	British one, though.
	Speak some French.
	Do a French accent.
	Hey.
	It's okay.
	I can't do accents either.
	He thinks he can, though.
	What are you trying to do, Opaseta?
	Oh, that's very, very hot.
	I can't believe you would try to do that.
	That's good.
	I'm not going to lie.
	That's kind of hot.
	That doesn't really sound German.
	That's not a good thing.
	It's like vaguely Eastern.
	Kind of like Ukrainian.
	You know, the more Eastern European.
	Get its right friends and stuff.
	Now that's that's German.
	That was German.
	Speaket.
	Spiet.
	Hey, but hey, he's a good-looking guy.
	Why you got to talk shit to him like that?
	Hey, we're not still talking about Christopher.
	Hey, that's my fucking homie, though.
	Okay, essay.
	Just okay, sorry.
	I can't.
	I'm just repeating this same joke at this point.
	All right, Christopher, send in a champagne pop because I stuck up for you, I guess.
	It's too much.
	Felicity.
	Nick left.
	He just left.
	Here to save the day.
	Care two.
	Everybody wants to know what's with the gloves.
	It's called fashion and clad.
	TikTok.
	Oh, I just wanted to kind of dress up my outfit.
	Actually, a co-worker's mother passed away, and she's like, I have all these cool vintage gloves, but I don't wear them, so you can have them.
	But there's nothing special about my hands other than being weird looking, but I don't get manicures really.
	Oh my god, who the hell?
	I know, I know, you don't care.
	That was an easy thing.
	I'm just answering and answering when we start talking about zip it for it for felicity.
	But no, I look the same regardless.
	Hey, Brian, good work as always.
	Nick killing it in chat again.
	Felicity was also there.
	Question for Chair 2.
	What?
	No disrespect, but are you on the spectrum?
	Well, I've never been formally diagnosed, but I have a co-worker who's insistent I am, even though I hate routines.
	So he will get a good laugh out of that when I tell him about it at work later this week.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Okay, Fairy, that's you.
	How do they know that?
	I don't know.
	It's your social media.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, family.
	Or whatever.
	You said the amount of times you hung out with men, they didn't have basic needs like water.
	Like they didn't have water?
	Like for you, for them?
	For both of us.
	And I was like.
	Like, they had a toilet?
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	I was just insane in my dish sponge.
	And I was just, no, literally, I was like, they don't have tap water.
	They don't drink water.
	There's no tap water?
	I mean, I'm sure I'm not drinking that.
	Are you dating homeless men?
	Right?
	No, this is, these are literally people, like models, like people who should have their shit together and don't.
	And yeah, I don't know from all my experiences.
	I don't know if I just drink a lot of water, but women don't drink water.
	I don't know what women you are around, but women drink water.
	I don't know about the women you are talking about.
	Because we need water to keep our coochie good.
	Well, then they're coochie.
	Well, yeah, but I don't know.
	Whenever I feel like I drink way more water, and the girl will have like one sip.
	I'll have, I don't know if we can bring the pitcher over here.
	Bring it over, Mary.
	The pitcher.
	I'll drink in a couple hours.
	I'll drink an entire pitcher of water.
	A girl might not even drink anything.
	Well, maybe you shouldn't be hanging out with those women.
	Look at this.
	I'll drink this whole fucking thing when it's full in like two or three hours.
	It's good you're staying hydrated.
	Yeah, that's good for yourself.
	That's so good.
	You want the topic of how men treat women today and how lazy everyone is in general when it comes to dating.
	So how do men treat women?
	Honestly, I think that everyone is just lazy.
	Like, I think that instant gratification is huge in like today's generation and like the younger generations.
	I think everybody is so used to, you know, everything being at the tip of their fingers and it stems from like social media and the internet.
	And like we're just all just instant gratification is what we're all after subconsciously, even if you don't want to be like that.
	And it's like pouring over into the dating area.
	And I just think that everyone is lazy, men and women.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Both men and women are lazy, okay?
	You also wrote that men need to stop going after the baddies if they haven't stopped in themselves.
	I like misread or mistyped that, so it's gonna sound weird, but you want like read it and then word it the right way because there's some typos, but you understand what I'm trying to say.
	You said men need to stop going after baddies if they haven't fixed themselves first, be emotionally ready.
	They should say, Can I give this baddie everything she needs?
	Do I even want to love someone?
	Yeah, okay.
	So, I guess, really quick, what does a baddie need and what is a baddie?
	I would say, first of all, independent woman that really doesn't need a man, but if they did have one, it would be adding on, never taking away.
	So, yeah.
	And then, someone, a woman who, a woman who cares about herself and that takes care of herself.
	Basically, just someone who really like has their shit together, but it's a woman, so she's a baddie.
	And I would say that a baddie needs the male version baddie, I guess, like a zaddie.
	Okay, and basically, a man who matches that energy, who is constantly like to even be like a baddie, like it's always wanting better for yourself and wanting to constantly, like, you know, keep yourself to a higher standard.
	I love that.
	Too, yeah.
	Okay, yeah, I get it.
	Um, oh, all the way, your friend Asha, we should have her on because I saw some of her shit.
	Gangster princess, shapeshifter muse.
	Tell her if she's down, we'll have her come another time because we could definitely have some cool combo with her.
	Iris, gonna eat you up.
	Yes.
	You just got out of an abusive relationship with a rich man.
	Do you want to tell us how you abused him?
	He abused me.
	Oh my God.
	I'm so sorry.
	My mistake.
	And the reason why I say that is because he told me, okay, I was a model.
	I had a competition I needed to go to.
	Didn't even make it to it.
	Mind you, it was for my finals.
	That's because once I started this relationship with him, he's the one that told me that he would support me in every endeavor that I needed to do.
	So I would not have to work and I would just have to uphold a traditional wife role.
	Cooking, cleaning, taking care of him, nurturing him, making sure that he's okay.
	And I did that.
	And I didn't get what I wanted from the situation, which was just, hey, all you got to do is fly me to my competition.
	You said that you would fly me to my competition.
	And as soon as the date came, that didn't happen.
	And then it was just a disappointment after a disappointment.
	And when I say the disappointments, it's just he felt as though he would be able to do as he pleased.
	And I would not be able to do as I please.
	And once it made it to that point, he was like, okay, well, why don't you just work for me?
	So essentially, I ended up getting scammed in the situation because it's like, sorry, I'm going fast, but I ended up giving up myself, my career, what I wanted to do in order to love him and do whatever he wanted me to do.
	And so, how long were you guys together?
	It was six months.
	So he didn't fly you.
	I'm just he didn't fly you to a competition and that's him being abusive?
	No, that was only one part of it.
	He was also narcissistic.
	Diagnosed by you, I'm assuming.
	No, there's actually people that can track his behavior.
	Was he has he been diagnosed by a mental health care professional?
	He is bipolar and he does also have ADHD and he is autistic.
	I don't know.
	fucking hat trick right there nice yeah Yeah, and then he's also doing like this big humiliation ritual to me because he's also a streamer.
	I did crash out on his live.
	What?
	Oh my god.
	First time that I have ever moss lol.
	John Moss?
	You said that name.
	Exactly.
	He's literally like falling off in this.
	I'm the one that he's making content off of right now.
	Get this girl a fucking bad looking up.
	Contract to starring transgender goodfellas.
	I'm sweet.
	So sweet.
	Silly.
	Oh, I thought you said that sweet.
	No, no, no.
	It's a silly.
	Whoa, why are you so silly?
	Why are you looking at my that's this girl's been perfect on me all night?
	It's fucking crazy, dude.
	It's crazy.
	Anyways, wait a minute.
	You told me you'd be my rebound guy.
	What are you doing over here?
	Promising too many.
	You should be upset at her because she's trying to swoop on your man.
	No.
	It's never that performance issue.
	I don't know.
	She's giving me like the side eye.
	Like, get away from me.
	I think I'm set over here.
	Okay.
	I'm sitting on the side table.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	So you just got this abusive thing with this rich man.
	Rich man?
	Streamer?
	I don't know.
	How many followers?
	Does he have a law following?
	Seven million on TikTok.
	One million on Facebook.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	What kind of content does he do?
	He is supposed to be doing comedy content.
	He also read Reddit stories.
	So he's able to sensationalize anything that just comes.
	I'm not familiar with the gentleman, but okay.
	You wanted to talk about traditional housewives and traditional house rules.
	You say it's the disillusion of taking on the traditional role of being a housewife.
	What do you want?
	Right, because I decided to go ahead and take on that role for him because we were supposed to be building a relationship together.
	But as we can see how that turned out, he ended up just using it to play me to be a domestic servitude to him.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Damn.
	Rip.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	We have Cena.
	Someone asked you to take your makeup off on the first date.
	What?
	Whoa.
	That's so weird.
	Wait, can you take your contacts out too?
	Okay.
	You look different.
	No, she's not really.
	She's the same.
	She's so beautiful.
	I didn't say anything bad.
	I just said she looks different.
	Not really.
	Most girls wear too much makeup and easily catfish, so he went and got makeup remover.
	Did you?
	I did.
	I took it off on the other side.
	Were you simping for him?
	No.
	Were you down bad?
	I wasn't down bad, but he was like, yeah, like, all girls are catfishes because they wear makeup, blah, And I was just like, okay.
	So then he's like, I'm going to go get makeup remover for you to remove your makeup.
	That's intense.
	That's for a first date.
	So weird.
	So weird.
	Cena, I would laugh into that.
	That is so weird.
	Cena, have you ever slashed a guy's tires?
	No, I haven't.
	Have you ever burned a guy's clothes?
	No.
	Have you ever murdered somebody?
	No.
	Have you ever.
	You think I'm a psychopath?
	Have you ever been diagnosed with anything?
	Depression?
	Depression?
	Anything else?
	ADHD.
	Same.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	You said that you don't think women should ever get down on one knee?
	No, no.
	What about Never mind.
	It's the man's job to propose literally king.
	Man's job, if you can't, you should marry him.
	Okay.
	I don't think, look, even if I wanted to marry a woman, I would never get down.
	Do you want to marry a man?
	Huh?
	Do you want to marry a man?
	Good ones.
	That was good.
	You're getting better.
	You're improving.
	She's very clever.
	I would just stay standing.
	And I would do something like, hold on, let me find.
	If a guy did that to me, I would say no.
	Yeah, same.
	That's right.
	Like, for example, here, I do something like this.
	Don't get your hopes up, Felicity.
	Kelsey, will you marry me?
	It's gorgeous.
	Not down on one knee.
	I would say you didn't do it right.
	You know what?
	That was actually the nice version.
	The who anybody here can catch.
	Ready?
	Cena, ready?
	Watch them.
	Actually, I'm kind of scared.
	I don't know.
	I can catch.
	That's okay.
	But I'd probably just here, I'd throw it.
	We're married now.
	Really kind of you.
	You're my fiancé.
	I wouldn't even ask.
	No, for real.
	You're my fiancé.
	Boom.
	Here you go.
	So, okay.
	I think you'd be a little more romantic than that, Brian.
	Well, I just don't want to get married is the thing.
	So it's never going to work between us, Kelsey.
	Sorry.
	That's okay.
	It's okay.
	Excuse you, Felicity.
	I just want to see what it looked like.
	Yeah.
	It's very expensive.
	It's really pretty.
	You know what, Felicity?
	I'm actually really picky with that.
	You're not going to say what?
	What?
	Dating as an influencer is hard, says Cena.
	I think it's only fair to date same level or higher.
	Since you're already at a certain level, you shouldn't date anyone who's lower than you.
	Makes less.
	Date like a nobody.
	Who do you date, Cena?
	Have you been on any dates recently?
	You've been single for a year.
	No, I haven't.
	No, you're just all alone there.
	Because an influencer is so hard.
	Like, you have to take in.
	They're literally, if you're dating a male influencer, they're surrounded by girls.
	You're dating a female influencer, they're surrounded by guys.
	Like, so if you would be the male influencer that's on your level that you'd because you said, you know, whatever.
	I don't know.
	Because you have a couple hundred thousand followers or something on TikTok.
	I think, you know, you don't.
	You can just find like a normal guy.
	Yeah, I feel like it might be easier to date a normal guy.
	Social media presents.
	Okay.
	You said love at first sight isn't real.
	It's just lust.
	Men lust for women if they can't or don't know how to love.
	I'm not even going to finish that sentence.
	You said girls will date ugly guys or any guys because personality, but less attractive girls have a hard time dating because guys only want to date pretty girls.
	You don't think so?
	Like guys only want to date pretty girls.
	Like I'm not saying they wouldn't have a hookup.
	They wouldn't have a one-night.
	Yeah, you literally said this earlier.
	You said men will literally hook up with ugly girls and not date them and only date like they're really, really like what they want.
	Yeah, but girls won't do anything with an ugly guy generally.
	That's not true.
	That is not true.
	I think glasses are a little too small for me.
	Are they?
	Or my head is just big head.
	Maybe I just have a big head.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	I mean, I disagree, but I won't even argue it.
	I dated ugly.
	Yeah.
	What's that?
	I dated ugly.
	I only date.
	John Moss.
	Okay.
	Jonathan DeMarc.
	DeMarco.
	The full government.
	Okay, Kelsey.
	Kelsey, you write, your husband left you to find his freedom, quotes.
	Inspired by the lifestyles he saw from his friends and influencers on social media, he specifically said, they're living my life for me.
	I choose to stand by my vows, hoping he would come to his senses and realize the grass isn't greener.
	Instead, he called me a week before Thanksgiving, and he was promising you a trip, and he was in Florida with a married 22-year-old woman.
	And he said he was never really married to you and was never, ever, ever coming back.
	Wait, so do you guys have shared custody of no, I have sole custody.
	Does he pay you child support?
	Yes.
	He does.
	Does he pay you alimony?
	No, there's no alimony in the state of Indiana.
	Really?
	Yep.
	That went away over a decade ago.
	Really?
	Yep.
	Oh.
	W, Indiana, I guess.
	Shit.
	If you're going to get married, get married.
	Alimony is when you can pay reparations back to the spouse.
	Oh, reparations.
	If you've been married for 10 years or longer, then you can get like a percentage of the 401k and such.
	Also, like it depends on how many assets that you have within the marriage to divide or whatnot.
	But there's no alimony in Indiana.
	Do you want to be raising your daughter?
	Who's in the chat?
	Trevor Leslie.
	I don't care.
	Do you want them to know that?
	Do you want me to say it for you?
	It's okay.
	Don't worry about it.
	Damn, that's fucked up.
	So how much does he pay you in child support?
	That's something I don't think that I should be saying online.
	Is it enough to fully support me?
	No, I mean, realistically, they take, no.
	No.
	What they do is they take a, they look at the amount that you make and then they do it based off of percentage.
	So it's just a critical point.
	It's off of income.
	Yes, yes.
	You said before your ex-husband, you had never dated anyone.
	He was your first in everything, including first kiss at a drive-in movie theater.
	Oh my gosh, you literally remind me of my mom.
	That was so cute.
	Okay, this is really cute.
	So we were in a movie theater and we were sitting there with my family.
	We were going out and we watched Guardians of the Galaxy.
	And he leans over to my parents and he asked them, can I hold your daughter's hand?
	That was adorable.
	That was so cute.
	My parents are just like, what?
	And he's like, can I hold your daughter's hand?
	And my dad's like, I don't care.
	And so he did that.
	I feel like men are more respectful where you're from.
	Well, minus the whole leaving shit.
	Yeah.
	Like, they're very, they are so like chivalrous.
	It's the Midwest.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know it is.
	You said you were a virgin when you guys married.
	You haven't been with anyone else since the divorce separation.
	You said you had some thoughts on high body count you wanted to share.
	Yeah, so I don't think that the high body count, and we already discussed this and you had left, Brian, but it's just, I don't believe that I need to have a high body count or other people need to have a high body count to find satisfaction in their relationship.
	One of the things about growing in the relationship and one of the things about saving the virginity is that you get to grow and experience in that relationship together.
	Having a high body count can cause more harm and it can actually lead to a lot of mistrust as you're going through the dating process as well.
	So it's one of those things where I don't really see the value.
	Like I hear people say, oh, well, you need to go out and have fun.
	And why don't you have a higher body count?
	You definitely can get that.
	It's like, just because I can do something doesn't mean I should.
	Just be exactly.
	Like Paul says, everything, I have the right to do everything, but not everything.
	It's beneficial.
	So when people make the argument that you should be doing this, it's like, no, I shouldn't.
	So I don't really see people come up to me and say, it was because of my high body count that I have a better relationship with my spouse.
	It was because I engage in hookup culture that I am more trustworthy of my spouse.
	And Bouse feels the same way about me.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	All right.
	We're finishing off with your notes.
	You're the last man standing, last person, then we're out.
	A couple things more.
	You said you're Catholic.
	Yes.
	But you're pro-choice?
	Yes.
	Well, Catholic.
	Are you pro-choice?
	No.
	Okay.
	My parents.
	I understand.
	Catholics.
	I realize that.
	I'm not monoliths.
	Well, hold on.
	But I mean, the Pope is the leader of the Catholic Church.
	The Catholic doc, the Catholic doctrine, and the Pope is anti-or is against abortion.
	Yes.
	So, how do you reconcile being a Catholic with being in favor of abortion?
	Well, I grew up in the Catholic Church.
	I know a lot of Catholics.
	Also, I don't know if you know a lot about Bloomington, it's a very liberal town in Indiana.
	It's probably one of the few besides Indianapolis.
	California is very liberal, but there's Catholics in California that are pro-life.
	But knowing all the Catholic people I know, you know, everyone's got something they disagree with the church doctrine with, or something the church doesn't approve of.
	I mean, my dad's divorced.
	Yeah, can't really divorce under.
	But there's a lot of people in the church who are divorced.
	Well, it can be granted under some circumstances, right?
	Yes, but they weren't even married in the church to begin with.
	Okay.
	And then, you know, when Pope Francis was alive, there were a lot of Catholics who disagreed with what things he would say.
	So I really like Pope Francis.
	Was he pro-choice or pro-life?
	He was pro-life.
	Okay.
	But there were other things people didn't like about him, especially more traditional Vatican I-type Catholics didn't like about him.
	So are you pro-abortion for like certain instances or like just open across the board?
	Because some people take different stances on that.
	Once again, it depends on the situation, but especially in cases where it's a minor, in cases of incest, for sure.
	You know, we had that case in Indiana.
	Ohio's got more restrictive laws than Indiana, and a 10-year-old girl came to Indiana to get an abortion.
	And Todd Rikita, one of our representatives, or no, he's the attorney general, pitched a fid about it.
	And it just seemed really silly considering she was 10.
	And if it didn't cause her, yeah, she was done.
	That's disgusting.
	Okay.
	Still, still a little bit confusing to me.
	I mean, it's the thing about a whole group of people that makes up a religion.
	Not everyone agrees 100% with everything.
	I mean, isn't it pretty central to the Christian faith, Catholic faith, that the sanctity of life?
	I've met Catholics who were very much for the death penalty.
	I've met Catholics who are very anti-immigrant.
	That's part of the sanctity of life.
	I'm not, I mean, look, I'm not a theological guy.
	I'm not a theological scholar, but I don't know if having a position against illegal immigration would put you in contravention of Catholicism.
	There are people within the clergy who've been arrested at protests for protesting against deporting people.
	Okay.
	But Are you saying that if you don't believe in open borders, you're not a Catholic?
	I think it's just you have to believe in open borders to be a Catholic.
	No, I'm just saying there's not everyone agrees with everything, and you can still be part of it.
	What kind of motivated me, I had always kind of turned away from Catholicism for a while, and then I came back, but there were a couple things that, yeah, I just couldn't necessarily align with 100%.
	But then I got kind of mad because there were people, notable people in the church who were saying really hurtful, divisive things, and they could get away with saying they were Catholic.
	And I thought, well, if they can, so can I.
	Okay.
	I mean, I don't know.
	It seems like it's kind of central to a Christian faith, Catholic faith.
	I don't know what the exact, I couldn't cite to a specific thing, not really my wheelhouse, but I don't know how you reconcile Christianity with a pro-abortion position.
	You're also just focusing on one issue.
	There's much more to Catholic doctrine that other people don't agree on.
	I mean, have you ever heard of the term cafeteria Catholics?
	Oh, have you ever heard of the term cafeteria Catholics?
	No.
	Very common term that Catholics like to use where we kind of just pick and choose what we want to follow.
	A lot of people do in it.
	And like I said before, you meet a lot of Catholics who've been divorced, a lot of one that have had some family issues that could be considered sinful, but they're still part of the church.
	You've got people who are very much pro-execution.
	Well, I actually don't think it's a hypocritical position to be pro-death penalty.
	That's what I was taught differently growing up.
	Well, look, I don't know what the Catholic prescription is on the death penalty, but I don't think it's hypocritical to, for example, if somebody is pro-life, to be pro-death penalty.
	I wouldn't think that that's hypocritical.
	Just saying that's what church doctrine says is respect all life from Catholic, I don't know the Catholic doctrine.
	Maybe like Catholics are biblically scripture, whatever it is.
	Like it's, you shouldn't believe in the death penalty.
	I don't know.
	Maybe anybody in the chat a Catholic?
	Like is death penalty contravention of Catholic faith?
	Chat, any Catholics?
	Like, can you be a Catholic?
	And somebody says, Jackie, death penalty is fine by the Bible.
	What is she talking about?
	I think she's talking about sola scriptura.
	So she's talking about scripture alone when she's saying the Bible only.
	That's what I was taught growing up.
	It says, Trevor says killing is not murder.
	Let's see.
	Eye for an eye.
	Yes, you can.
	It's in the Bible.
	No, it's illegal.
	Okay, the Crusades.
	It's against Catholic teaching.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	It's not my wheelhouse, really.
	I don't know.
	But just even from a secular perspective, I think that you could be pro-death penalty, but also pro-life.
	Like, I don't think, well, sure, but I don't think these two are necessarily contradictory.
	Just saying, if you go to any church or place of worship, you will meet a whole group of people who have differing opinions on things.
	Thou shalt not murder.
	That whole thing?
	You know, thou shalt not.
	Okay.
	children are innocent okay anyways i'm just reading the chat here seeing that's okay Thou shalt not kill includes yourself or anyone else.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	So, did you is it just based on other things that you've seen, different instances where abortions have happened, or was there something like personal in your life?
	You can give a quick answer, but I have to move on after that.
	Um, it's just experiences from other people.
	I've never had an abortion, um, though some people would say I'm evil because I'm on birth control to manage my endometriosis.
	So, okay, my parents were encouraged to abort me, so I didn't know if you had a personal story or not.
	Uh, Emily, you wrote your first date you ever went on, you got a strange feeling from the guy you went on a date with.
	You didn't have a second one, turned out your gut feeling was right.
	He ended up being very mentally ill and homeless later on.
	Yeah, seems like a lot of women here seem to be dating homeless men.
	I don't well, I think it was due to his it's sad, but yeah, he really, I was 18, he was 25, and we had a class together at IU, and he asked me out.
	I was shocked.
	Um, and I was like, sure.
	Um, and then it's okay, don't worry about that story.
	Um, I don't know, whatever, don't take offense.
	Oh, it's okay, you got time.
	Sometimes I just have to parse when something is important or not.
	Um, you dumped your first boyfriend over ice cream.
	Quick story.
	Uh, yes, well, I had wanted to break up with him.
	I thought he was kind of rushing things a little quick, and there are a few other issues, so I um wanted to break up with him in person.
	Um, I felt that was the right thing to do, but I really wanted to soften the blow.
	So, I, and I was 19 at the time, so um, yeah, okay, so you went to an ice cream place and then you dumped him there.
	Yes, I thought if he had something that was making him if he, you know, when I'm sad, I eat ice cream.
	I see in retrospect, I probably ruined that place for him, but at the time, I thought it was a good idea.
	So, I paid for the ice cream too.
	So, felicity, felicity, return, felonicity.
	Um, let's see.
	Oh, okay, uh, because I thought you dumped him over ice cream.
	No, no, well, I mean, we were sitting over it, but like he bought you Rocky Road, and you're like, fuck you.
	No, no, that's so that's too petty.
	No, okay, no.
	Uh, you're engaged, it's an age gap relationship, yeah, 16 years.
	So, yes, you are uh 32, he is 48.
	Yes, I think he just turned 48 beginning of the month, so and you guys have been together how long since 2017, so I think it's eight years now.
	So, you were 24, and he was 39.
	Okay, um, you said you have a unique gray area viewpoint on age gap relationships.
	What is the gray area view?
	Context.
	Um, so because my parents, I was a little hesitant to tell them about it because I knew they'd be worried about me, but they quickly liked my fiancé.
	And I think what helped it go down and them adjust to it is that he met me at my job.
	We worked together.
	I was 24, which I feel like was pretty solid age being an adult.
	Um, and I pursued him.
	Um, and it wasn't like he was my coach in high school, he was my teacher in high school, he was a family friend that knew me since I was like six.
	He was he didn't know me?
	He didn't, he didn't.
	No, I met him when I wasn't, so no, they would have not liked him had it been one of those scenarios.
	But because we were both adults, we met at a job, and I kind of was the one who initiated things.
	He, um, they were fine with it, and I think that's a case that age gaps totally appropriate.
	In that very specific case, you're saying it's fine, but you're saying other age gap relationships, not okay.
	Once again, context.
	So, if it was my high school gym teacher who knew me since I was 12.
	Now we're getting into like kind of grooming the person knew them when they were a child.
	That's a different territory here.
	That's what I assume.
	Let's assume both people meet when they were both adults.
	But the age gap could be, say, it could even be less than yours.
	Let's say, because you said 16-year age gap.
	How about a 20-year-old woman dating a 30-year-old man?
	That's okay.
	Fine with that?
	Yeah.
	35-year-old man?
	Yeah.
	18-year-old dating 28-year-old.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, I think the only time.
	It doesn't seem like you have a really major problem with age gaps.
	Like when we're talking, like, unless you're talking, it gets into the criminal element, then of course that's wrong.
	But if they're both adults, it sounds like you don't really have any issues with it.
	Yeah, the only time I'm not against it.
	It's nothing to argue with them.
	You know, if they're like 40 to 60 years apart, I don't disapprove, but they may have some challenges because we've had some challenges ourselves with our 16 years.
	I think that's fair.
	I think that's fair.
	Okay.
	So if I dated, I'm 36.
	If I dated a 20-year-old, you'd be fine with it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Just curious.
	Okay.
	Disagree.
	You say we already talked about the negative views on feminism, although I don't think you actually were able to cite really one of the negative views, but that's whatever.
	You say feminism helps men.
	I don't really think it does, but we already dived into that a whole bunch.
	It's getting late, so I understand.
	Well, there's just a few more notes, but you said you noticed that facts, not feelings, gets brought up frequently on the podcast.
	But you beg to, excuse me, beg to differ.
	On the real world, there are many instances where feelings will trump facts, and you can attest to this through the work you do.
	Yes.
	So how so?
	What specifically?
	Well, we get cases that are severe decomposition cases.
	It might be someone's loved one who died unexpectedly and no one checked on them for a month.
	And then we get them in our care.
	And if their family didn't find them themselves, like if a coroner or neighbor was the one who notified them, we do occasionally get a family who wants to see their loved one again.
	And I have to tell them, you can't, but that doesn't usually isn't a good enough answer.
	They want to know why.
	And if I wanted to be blunt and be honest, I could say, well, your loved one's green.
	They're bloated.
	They're covered in maggots.
	Their skin's peeling off.
	But if I tell a family that in that way, especially that blunt, it's not going to go over well.
	It really isn't.
	So you have to say it in a way that is not going to hurt their feelings.
	And I could be honest with them.
	And, you know, I'm very matter of fact about death in my personal life, and that's how my family is.
	But I know this job's taught me that a lot of people aren't that way.
	And I've had to really learn that and learn where other people are coming from, being a little adverse to death and not wanting to talk about the pun intended bare bones of it.
	But how would this apply?
	Like, how would you relate this to the approach that I take on this podcast?
	I don't.
	I just know that a lot of people just shut anything they don't like down with, well, you're feeling that, so it doesn't count.
	But there's just a lot of instances out in the real world.
	You're going to have to use some discretion.
	Well, I don't know if these two things are the same, but I mean, I'm not, I'm still not entirely sure what you're talking about.
	But I mean, in the real world, appeals to emotions are, Although it's a fallacious, it's logically, it can be logically fallacious.
	It's actually rhetorically super effective.
	But if we're just looking at pure logic, if we're looking at determining truth, then feelings ought to be kind of irrelevant if we're trying to parse truth.
	Yeah.
	But you're talking about, in your situation, the example you gave of probably talking to somebody at one of the worst or the worst moments of their life in your job as funeral director or whatever.
	Yeah, you should probably have some approach things in a tactful way.
	But if I'm engaged in a debate and a conversation, yeah, facts over feelings.
	But I feel like you're trying to say, well, feelings matter now.
	Well, for example, I think sometimes if I'm having a discussion with my girlfriend or whatever, if I'm having a discussion with whether it's anybody, you're having a discussion with your boyfriend, girlfriend, I do think that there is a way that you should try to convey something and not just be like cold, brutal person.
	But I guess the climate right now feels like everything needs to be logical.
	You can't use any emotion or it's invalid.
	Well, okay, how about for immigration?
	Should we be using facts or should we be using feelings?
	Should we use Fifis?
	Because like it's very emotionally and feelings compelling when you have like women who are crying about their husband being deported or you have families.
	Like this is all very emotionally appeals to emotion, very rhetorically effective.
	But if we're like looking at the facts of, okay, well, what's the negative impacts of illegal immigration on society, on culture, on the society, economically, financially, what about the crime rates?
	What about the rent?
	What about everything?
	All these things.
	Then I think these are more compelling arguments than people's feelings feel like it hurts their feelings.
	I just feel like whenever you're dealing with people, as whenever you're dealing with humans, there's always going to be a feelings element there.
	You can't parse it out completely unless you're talking to chat GPT or something.
	Yeah, but if I'm just having like a factual conversation about some, I don't know, an issue.
	I mean, I feel like feelings motivates the things.
	That's why I asked you earlier about, granted, it probably came off.
	But if we allowed feelings to purely dictate political policy, economic policy, then it feels really good to just, you can make the, it's really nice to let people into your country.
	And just anybody who wants to come, you just come in.
	I feel like there's that feels nice, but the practical implications of it and the cascading and domino effect of what that's going to have on society, not good.
	And those feelings will be very short-lived when you basically double the population.
	For example, how many people in the world would like to come to the United States?
	No idea.
	I'd say it's over a billion people.
	How many people currently live in the United States?
	I think it's 300 million.
	What's our housing stock?
	I don't know.
	Do you think we have the housing stock available to house a billion extra people?
	Probably not.
	So it feels really good to just let these people in, right?
	It feels great.
	We're doing the right thing.
	They're escaping A country that's their economy is not as good, or there's corruption, or whatever it is, or they're just economic immigrants.
	But that feels good, right?
	But what about the feelings of the people that already live in the country?
	How about that?
	Well, I mean, if you move here, legally or not, you technically live here.
	I do work or interact with a lot of them.
	Okay, so they are people at the end of the day.
	Yeah, they are people, but like if we were to adhere to your belief system on this, then we would just literally open up the floodgates to having a billion people living in the United States.
	I don't need to, I hope I don't have to tell you what that would do to rent prices, cost of living, crime, all sorts of things.
	Once again, nuance.
	What do you think about this?
	Are you for illegal immigration?
	I don't want to speak on this.
	Tilt your mic down just a little bit.
	Well, as a woman, as a woman who had very strong opinions of all these evil men, you remember, all these evil men who are harassing women and all it's a majority of men who want to rape women, right?
	Don't you think it's, by the way, the majority of illegal immigrants are men, by the way, men are much more likely to immigrate.
	Don't you think maybe if your position is so like, let's protect women, shouldn't you also be against immigration?
	No.
	But you're letting all these creepy, weird men into the country.
	Why are they creepy and weird just because they're not American?
	Wait, hold on.
	Just to be clear, it's okay for you to say men are creepy and weird just because they're men.
	So wouldn't that apply not to the not to the immigrants because they're immigrants?
	It would apply to them because they're men from your perspective.
	Again, I'm not going to go into like race because I think that race and gender are very different.
	And it's just a different spectrum.
	Like, I just think that, yes, it's letting more men into the U.S., which sucks.
	But I don't think just because they're an immigrant, that they're going to necessarily be detrimental just because they're an immigrant.
	Wait, hold on, but you're against letting men, you're against immigrants.
	That's a different topic.
	I'm upset that they're men coming in, not because they're an immigrant.
	But I mean, they're kind of intertwined.
	They're men coming in to the country.
	I'm more upset that it's a man coming in here, not that it's an immigrant.
	Well, I mean, they, by definition, would be an immigrant.
	But I'm not upset because they're an immigrant.
	Okay.
	I just, on one hand, you're like, wow, all these men are crazy rapists.
	Like, that's your position.
	Majority of men are predators, creepy, weirdo, rapists.
	But come into this country and I don't have an issue with that.
	I don't get that.
	Well, I'm not going to be like, oh, these immigrants are rapists because they're immigrants.
	It's because they're men.
	But hold on.
	But you're letting them.
	But the majority of immigrants are men.
	So I don't think that's true.
	If your goal was to stop women from getting raped, wouldn't you want to prevent immigration?
	I don't think that it's a majority of men.
	If you want to fact check me, no, that immigrants are a majority of men.
	I don't think that's true.
	The majority of immigrants are men.
	Men are much more willing to take the dangerous journey to get here.
	A lot of immigrants are already here and have been here for years and they still are getting deported.
	It's not just men.
	It's literally whole families.
	Like me personally, I've literally witnessed it.
	It's definitely a lot of women too.
	And again, I don't necessarily think it has anything to do with the fact that it's an immigrant coming in.
	I don't think that's the issue.
	I think the issue is that it's a man.
	It's a man coming in who happens to be an immigrant.
	Yeah.
	That sucks.
	But I'm not going to say, oh, you're immigrant.
	Like, you can't come here.
	So, but I guess my confusion is on one hand, all these men are so bad.
	And like, there's probably some argument that can be made that there's probably some argument that could be made that somebody who's inclined, like, I don't know the statistics on this, actually.
	So I shouldn't, I don't know the statistics.
	I won't even, I won't speak on it just because I don't know.
	But it is interesting to me that on one hand, men bad, men weird, men creepy, men predators, but open, like open borders doesn't really make sense.
	Men are overwhelmingly, men make up the majority of, I believe, both legal and illegal immigrants.
	So as it relates to feels over facts, though, I think on this particular topic, yeah, seeing, you know, family torn apart, that's feels.
	But let's talk about the facts about the impacts of illegal immigration on this country.
	I think it's a combination of both and nuance.
	Okay, but would you acknowledge even on the feels front, there's a lot of like this, what about the feels, the feelings of the citizens of this country who don't want illegal immigration?
	Like we ignore facts.
	There's a lot of feelings that we feel about illegal immigration.
	Well, speaking to people where I'm from that feel negatively about it, they feel, yeah.
	You know, part of the feelings I feel like are, you don't probably are upset.
	I said feel.
	But sometimes they feel like someone is getting more than them who shouldn't.
	And usually to that, I say, well, you need to look at the source rather than basically look at the person rigging the race rather than your competitors.
	I mean, what about things like rent prices?
	Well, where I come from, rent skyrocketed because of all the out-of-state college students rather than immigrants.
	Well, look, to be clear, it's a multivariate issue, the increases in cost of living and rent.
	I would never solely place the blame on these things simply or just on immigration.
	Obviously, there's other factors, greedy corporations, greedy landlords, just general inflation.
	There's a bunch of different reasons, right?
	However, like how many immigrants, how many illegal immigrants are in this country?
	They're not homeless.
	They're living somewhere.
	So if there's less supply, then prices go up.
	I don't know how many, what is it, there's tens of millions of illegal immigrants here.
	I don't know what the exact number is.
	They're not homeless.
	They're living.
	They're renting.
	They're living in houses, in apartments.
	They might be renting, but what's the place look like?
	Because some of the illegal immigrants in my community, they might be renting, but they're not living high on the hog.
	And they're still paying for taxes.
	Okay, there's like slum lords and stuff, but There's still like there's still definitely housing stock that citizens would absolutely live in that are being occupied or taken by immigrants.
	There's also a lot of houses that are sitting empty because there's real estate companies that are buying them for Airbnbs or future investments and no one's living.
	I don't like that either.
	But that doesn't that that does nothing to tackle my argument that there are there's millions upon millions of immigrants in this country who are taking up the housing stock.
	So you can say, well, you can point to this other thing over here, red herring.
	Well, hold on, what about BlackRock that just has all these houses sitting on the market and nobody's occupying them?
	Okay, that's bad too, I guess.
	But that's not a defeater to my point.
	I think it's a bigger problem than your point.
	I actually, I don't, hold on.
	I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm fairly confident that there's more illegal immigrants occupying houses than does BlackRock own houses.
	I don't know about BlackRock, but I can tell you, at least in Bloomington, Indiana, it's no one.
	I'll Google it.
	Corporations.
	How many houses do corporations own?
	Mind you, not, okay, corporations own approximately 600,000 single-family homes in the United States.
	And I'm assuming that like some of them sit empty, but most of that, most of these corporations are renting them out, even if it's for fucking bullshit, inflated prices.
	It's not a defeater to my point.
	Okay.
	Well, if you want to be a chat GPT robot, go ahead.
	I'm going to go to the next one.
	I Googled one thing.
	No, I'm not.
	You're just very focused on logic for everything.
	Yes.
	We should be focused on logic.
	There's just things in life you can't be that way.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Can I move to Japan and say, fuck the Japanese and their fucking legal system?
	I don't give a fuck.
	I'm going to live here and I'm Japanese now.
	Fuck them.
	Can I do that?
	Probably not.
	Would they deport me?
	Probably.
	Would it be wrong for the Japanese to deport me if I overstay my visa?
	Well, that's a bit of a gray area.
	How so?
	Well, if you've lived in Japan for like 40 years and you've integrated yourself in the community, you know, you're kind of part of the community at that point.
	Okay, so let's say the Japanese put that aside, but let's say I've been there for 18 months.
	Well, that's a little different.
	It's a lot less time.
	Okay, you acknowledge that there are illegal immigrants in this country who have just got here, who have been here for three months, six months, nine months, 10 months?
	Yes.
	Should they be deported then?
	The whole point of America is to be a melting pot and to have a bunch of culture.
	And literally, the leaders here don't want culture and don't want people with culture.
	I think nations can say, you know what, we allowed for this amount of legal immigration in the past.
	We allowed for this amount of legal immigration in the past.
	We accepted it.
	However, our circumstances have changed.
	The economy has changed.
	The cost of living has changed.
	The housing stock has changed.
	All kinds of factors have changed.
	We no longer want to allow this.
	We'll allow this amount of legal immigration and we don't want any illegal immigration.
	Nothing wrong for a country to do that whatsoever.
	Just because there was some difference in the past doesn't mean we need to continue it, just like slavery used to be legal in the past.
	Definitely doesn't mean we should continue slavery because it was done and practiced in the past.
	I don't think those things are related.
	I think it's perfectly a coherent point.
	I still really haven't gotten an answer from you, though.
	So if I go ahead and say, you know what, you're right.
	If you've been here 40 years, maybe we shouldn't deport you.
	Are you prepared to say that if you've been here for three months, that we can deport you and should deport you?
	Well, you haven't really set up a lot here.
	So you're fine then with the deportation if they've been here for less than a year or say?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Common ground then.
	Yes.
	I mean, where did this even come from?
	She was just talking about like you brought up immigration and she's kind of just there a cutoff?
	Like how long do you have to be here before it's like wrong to deport somebody?
	No, it depends on the situation.
	Oh my God.
	You asked the wrong person that they've been here for three years.
	Can we deport them?
	I think if they're paying taxes, they're working.
	They're not doing anything.
	Let's get to the mic if you can.
	I think if they're paying taxes, if they're working, if they're not.
	Okay, well, so if I can I move to Japan and I don't know the I don't know how their laws work.
	Who has been to Costa Rica?
	Was it you?
	I haven't been there.
	I forgot.
	Who's the Costa Rica person?
	It was me, but I just haven't been there yet.
	Oh, you haven't been there?
	Okay.
	I mean, can I just, can I move to Mexico?
	Yes, you can move to Costa Rica and you can move to Mexico.
	But can I illegally immigrate to Mexico and then protest?
	Actually, it's funny.
	Can I protest the Mexican government and be like pissed off at them and riot and burn down buildings because they want to deport me?
	You could do that, but you actually wouldn't end up being alive.
	Yeah.
	Oh, interesting.
	We're not unaliving illegal immigrants in this country because they're protesting or whatever or because they're here illegally.
	There's actually, I believe, didn't they pass a law chat?
	In Mexico, if you're not a citizen of Mexico and you protest in Mexico, that's a crime.
	That's a crime.
	I believe maybe somebody in the chat can help me out with that.
	Chat, can anybody tell me really quick, really quick if you can?
	What's the law precisely?
	Mexico is having protests about American immigrants right now.
	So the Mexicans don't want American immigrants because look, some Americans do move to Mexico.
	Article 33 of the Constitution.
	Wait, can you pull that back up?
	Under Article 33 of the Mexican Constitution, it is strictly illegal for foreigners to participate in political activities in Mexico, which can include demonstrations.
	Participation in such activities can lead to consequences like detention or deportation.
	Can you imagine if I went to Mexico and I was waving around an American flag and was like, fuck the Mexican government?
	Bro.
	We're cooked in America.
	It's cooked here, boys.
	Okay, whatever.
	Off of immigration, though, I can't linger on that.
	A few more notes for you.
	This is like the last one or two things.
	You're very much a feminist.
	You'd love to discuss why you believe feminism is beneficial to society.
	I think we did already.
	Yeah, I think we already did.
	Just why is feminism beneficial to society really quick?
	I think it allows people to live the life they want and not have to be in the constraints of one way.
	I know people, when they talk about patriarchy, even though I don't think it's entirely accurate, like to glamorize the 1950s.
	But not everyone wants to live that way.
	Okay.
	You also, final thing, you enjoy your career very much, working life.
	You would like to speak your piece on why you don't think Trad Wife is a good fit for you?
	Yes.
	But you're fine with other people doing it?
	Yeah.
	Okay, whatever.
	I believe you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's again, I think the climate right now is to tell people to live one way, and it's just not everyone's a good fit for that.
	I really don't think I'd make a good stay-at-home mom.
	Some people do and they love it and that's good for them.
	But saying every woman needs to be a baby factory and stay at home isn't right.
	Do you think if would that be the best way though, generally for most people to operate?
	You know what I'm gonna say.
	It depends.
	Yeah.
	Well, do you think it like, I know you don't want to have kids, but for women who do want to have kids, do you think it's better for them to be boss babes and then pass off the children to daycare, nanny, child care, whatever it is?
	Or do you think it would be better if the man could just go out, make the money, and they could dedicate their time to raising their children and not giving it to some third party who knows what the fuck they're doing with the kids?
	Look, probably most people in childcare are fine.
	They're not going to like abuse the kid, but sometimes they get abused.
	And then also, I think not reaching up to the threshold of abuse, but I think the actual care given, the mother is always going to give better care than some fucking minimum wage $20 an hour worker working for some child care.
	They're going to be less attentive.
	They're dealing with other kids.
	It's not their kid.
	They're less invested.
	Mothers, the actual mothers will always tip, unless the mother's a piece of shit, whatever.
	Most, almost all mothers are going to be better suited to raise their children than some outsider.
	You agree with that?
	No.
	What do you disagree with?
	You think?
	I think there are.
	Does it depend?
	It depends.
	It does depend.
	Okay, so, but I already...
	It also, I think, depends on your child and their needs.
	But hold on.
	Okay, there are some mothers who are abusive.
	There are some child care workers who are fantastic and will probably might treat them better than the mom.
	But on the balance of probabilities, but also there would also be abusive child care workers.
	So doesn't whatever.
	The loving mother is going to treat their child better than the loving child care worker because it's actually their child.
	So knowing this, wouldn't it be better to, for the sake of the children, wouldn't it be better to have moms raising their kids?
	Not I think it'd be better to have parents raising their kids.
	Well, assuming somebody has to work and the traditional dynamic for most of human history has been, it's not to say that the husband should be an absentee father, but he should go work.
	The woman stays home, takes care of the kids.
	I feel like that was a very small blip in time.
	I think a lot of, unless you were really wealthy, a lot of women went out and did something that may have taken their kid out to the field with them or something.
	Well, I mean, historically, look, I'm not an expert in this, but it just occurs to me, well, what do you do with the child?
	Like, who's the child with when the man's working?
	Well, mom would probably, like, peasants, medieval peasants, mom would probably be working too, and then the kids would be doing whatever they could physically do at the time.
	Okay.
	Well, I think that small blip of human history was probably the superior way to structure society.
	Okay, that's your opinion.
	But even Granting that it is a small blip in human history where the man went to work, woman stayed home, took care of the kids.
	Do you think that that's better than both parents working and then they shuck the kids off to childcare?
	You think it's better for the kid?
	I think if one of the parents stays home, it doesn't have to be the mom.
	Yes.
	That's why I'm for more maternal and paternal leave after birth.
	Wait, so it's better for a parent to be with a kid versus childcare.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, sure, yeah, a guy could stay at home.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	I think most women would not be okay with that kind of arrangement, but maybe there are some women out there who would be.
	But if the majority of women's will would be, no, I'll stay home.
	Yeah.
	Realistically, though.
	I mean, them.
	It's, especially since most people live paycheck to paycheck in the United States.
	Both parents are working.
	So you can say it's ideal all you want, but it's not reality.
	Yeah, sure.
	I agree with that.
	I mean, and that's most of the blame can be rested on feminism.
	Okay, if you feel that way.
	It's not just that I feel that way.
	To be clear, I think women should have the option to work, but I think there should be a cultural narrative and push to actually push towards nuclear family and traditional gender roles because there's been a massive push ever since feminism to no, no, no, women focus on college, focus on your career, family, children should be secondary.
	I think it's built like that because men will leave you.
	And then what do you have?
	You have nothing but a child to take care of you.
	I mean, our divorce rates are the highest they've ever been.
	Exactly.
	Now, now it's women will leave you.
	It's not clear to me if men were like massively divorcing their wives in the 50s.
	We have one person here that's literally a victim of that.
	I know multiple people and being left.
	Yeah, men and women cheat, but it's like, but it's just like, so we're going to need to have something for our own.
	Like, if we're going to be divorced, what are we going to do?
	Like, we, you, as a human being, you should make sure you're good because you come into this world alone.
	You're going to die out of this world alone.
	Like, you need to make sure that you're good.
	And to be so centered around dating and just like a significant other or children or whatever, it can be toxic.
	And it can be self-imploding because it's like, when are you going to take care of you and make sure that you're good and stop letting everyone suck all the energy out of you?
	Like, I almost feel like it's a privilege to not have to work, to have a man there.
	What happens if you guys get divorced?
	Like, you need to have something for yourself.
	I mean, well, there's a robust legal system that protects the body.
	Indiana's got no alimony, though.
	I'm pretty, I don't know if that's the only state that doesn't have alimony.
	My understanding is the majority of states in this country do have alimony.
	So that would be one mechanism by which women could be protected in the event of some divorce.
	But overwhelmingly, men don't initiate divorces.
	So it seems like women initiate divorces more.
	Even if that is true, as they should, because why should someone stay married to someone and be unhappy for the rest of your life?
	Oh, so okay, that's why I worry about you.
	Okay, so what if the man just wants to divorce a woman for that reason?
	Okay, cool.
	But the woman should have something to fall back on.
	Like, who's going to take care of you?
	That's exactly our point.
	That's the whole point of, like, that's the whole reason.
	Honestly, I think feminists even made it such a huge issue.
	It's like, when you need to, what do I do?
	Right.
	Like, you need to make sure that you are good.
	Hold on, this idea that.
	The whole purpose in life isn't just to have kids and like serve a man.
	This idea that women who have been married for years and years and years and they're just going to end up destitute and homeless because they get divorced is totally bogus.
	Not necessarily.
	Of course, it is going to have a financial impact on the woman.
	But this idea that women can't, you know, end up finding a job or picking their life together is ridiculous.
	She wants to have a nine-to-five their whole life.
	Like, no.
	Wait, what?
	Women wants to have a nine-to-five their whole life.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	That doesn't even make sense.
	A woman isn't just going to get divorced and then have a career waiting for her.
	Like, she needs to build something for herself.
	She needs to fall back.
	Women can get, hold on.
	Yeah, okay.
	If you've been out of the workplace for a while, yeah, maybe it's going to be difficult.
	You're not going to be jobless.
	You'll find a job eventually.
	You'll find your way.
	This idea that women are going to be homeless, there's massive social security social safety nuts for women.
	There's plenty of like there's plenty.
	But also, I don't understand this idea that the woman doesn't want a nine to five, but you're arguing that they should have a nine to five.
	Which is it?
	Pick a lane.
	No, no, no.
	It's not a nine to five in a nine to five.
	A career has to be a nine to five.
	Hold on.
	Women throughout their whole lives will have a nine to five.
	Isn't that a career, by the way?
	No, no, no.
	That's working for a son.
	Yeah, it's a nine job where you're working a slave to the system.
	Yeah.
	That's not a problem.
	Most people are a slave to the system.
	Exactly.
	It's not okay.
	It's not good.
	You realize.
	Whoa, wait, that's incoherent.
	Hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You realize that society is for society to function.
	People are slaves to the system and have nine to five jobs and are employees.
	Like, that's the majority of people.
	That's great, but it shouldn't, you shouldn't do that your entire life.
	Like, leave that to younger people.
	Wow, what's wrong with you?
	There's more to life than that.
	That's such a dull life.
	I know most people are.
	Okay, not everybody's going to be a rock star.
	It's not even about that.
	It's like in other countries, like people, like having a job, like the things that we get taught here in the United States is just like it's dull.
	Do you think in Italy everybody's a fucking rock star?
	That's not no, but there's actually working.
	Like there's like literally.
	But this idea of.
	That's a sad life.
	Who wants to work like their whole life?
	Like that's not.
	So many fucking people do that.
	You guys live in fantasy.
	They hate their life.
	No, not necessarily.
	I think, no.
	I think, look, a job.
	Maybe six for nine to five people.
	Let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	Look, maybe like, yeah, having a nine to five might not be super fulfilling, but most people realize that, you know what?
	I'm not going to amount to anything more.
	That's horrible.
	Okay, well, it is.
	That's the American people.
	Okay, welcome to fucking reality.
	Here's your wake-up.
	To America.
	Bro, what?
	Bro, you don't know.
	Hold on.
	I actually think we are so pampered that we believe we all are owed some amazing career and you all want to be rock stars and movie stars and all and fucking wanting to do it.
	No, it's not.
	There's a greater duty than just fucking traveling and getting fucked by some guy in a visa.
	Nobody's saying that.
	Nobody traveling is fucking traveling.
	Everyone should travel like that.
	That's how you ignore people don't travel.
	Women and men, mass travel is like a very blip on the radar in terms of human history.
	Most people didn't leave fucking 10 miles for all of human history.
	You lived in your fucking village for your whole life.
	I don't think, look, traveling's great.
	I actually don't think it's all that sad.
	Humans have been happy living in their village, having families, having children.
	Traveling's great.
	You can do it.
	You don't need to be some like people who drive buses for work go on vacations.
	This idea that vacations and traveling is exclusively like the realm of the ultra-wealthy is ridiculous.
	People with normal jobs travel all the time.
	They even travel internationally.
	This idea that, well, you know, if you have a nine-to-five job, no.
	Probably the majority of people who do travel have normal nine-to-five jobs.
	You don't need to be some giga millionaire playboy, play girl, whatever to go to Costa Rica.
	You don't have to be that, though.
	You could be right, but it's not sad to have a nine-to-five job.
	The point I was going to make is people make the trade-off.
	They're like, you know what?
	Look, I'm not going to be a movie star.
	I'm not going to be a rock star.
	I'm not going to do some big, massive thing.
	But they will say, you know what?
	I've got the job.
	It covers my expenses.
	I can have my leisure time after work and on the weekends.
	I can enjoy and I can pursue my passions on my time off.
	It's usually not the case with the nine to five.
	Like at all.
	You personally have a lot of stuff.
	You have weekends.
	Hold on.
	There's plenty.
	It's not enough.
	Three days.
	Usually not enough.
	This is the majority of people.
	Paycheck to paycheck.
	Hold on.
	The majority of people have these jobs and they live mostly happy, fulfilling lives.
	And this idea that if you have a nine-to-five, it's all gloom and doom.
	And you're no, they enjoy their leisure time off of work.
	Yeah, sure.
	It'd be nice if nobody ever had to work ever, I guess.
	And we could just play video games all day and fuck and do all this crazy stuff.
	You can definitely create a like bigger, like a career.
	You don't need to just have a nine to five and then marry someone, have kids, then you guys don't work out.
	Then it's back to a nine to five.
	Why would you assume that, though?
	Why does that have to be the case?
	Because if a woman is not banking anything, anything for herself, what's going to happen?
	She's will have nothing but a basic job.
	Okay, and what about if a woman strictly pursues her career ambitions and she's 35 and she doesn't have kids and she doesn't have a family and then she goes, we push it to 40 and we push it to 45.
	So there's negative outcomes.
	There's negative outcomes.
	Well, what's wrong with a woman getting married?
	Nothing, but definitely have some just be a housewife.
	If you can assume the worst for the traditional scenario, then you also can assume the worst for the modern scenario, which is she never gets married.
	She never has kids and she dies alone.
	It's not dying alone.
	I would love to die with my friends.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	You think they're your friends now, but I tell, I guarantee you, if they end up with somebody, you'll call them once a year and you'll never see them.
	Trust me.
	That's not true.
	Trust me.
	I've got a bunch of friends who got families.
	Yeah, but that's the issue.
	It changes this issue with your generation.
	My generation.
	This is going to be more the case for your generation.
	I just don't think so.
	What?
	Two each.
	We have a way more sense of community.
	We have a way more.
	I would be willing to bet that you two don't know each other in 20 years time.
	How long have you known each other?
	Long enough.
	What?
	A year?
	No.
	You met three months ago?
	How long have you guys known each other?
	Longer.
	A couple years.
	A couple years.
	A couple years?
	You guys won't be friends in 20 years.
	Yeah, that's just not the case.
	Okay.
	Prove me wrong.
	We've gone through way, way too much.
	and we literally live together like thanks to anybody okay Okay, what happens when homegirl over here, she wants to move in with her fiancé in, I don't know, New York, and you want to stay on the West Coast?
	We literally live by coast.
	That's the reality of this.
	The reality is we're going to have multiple homes like we already do.
	Hit me up.
	We already do that.
	Send me a reminder.
	Send me a reminder email in 20 years.
	We'll see if you guys are still friends.
	I will do that.
	Perfect.
	So Brian, I got a question for you.
	Why do you think a majority of the women file for divorce?
	Because I've heard you take that stance before on the show.
	It depends.
	It depends.
	That is funny.
	He didn't like that word the whole time.
	Well, no, but there are actually different reasons for why people get divorced.
	So, I mean, there's financial reasons.
	Obviously, there can be like abuse.
	There can be infidelity.
	But my understanding, the primary reason why that is cited for divorce is financial reasons.
	So, yeah, I mean, I don't know specifically.
	I think women just are just ultimately end up unhappy.
	Vaguely unhappy, you know, whatever.
	He's not abusive.
	He doesn't mistreat me.
	He doesn't cheat.
	But I'm just not happy.
	I feel like there's a majority of women filing for divorce.
	I think it's mostly abuse statistics.
	No, no, no, no.
	There's no way the majority of divorces are due to abuse.
	I'm not saying that it's strictly abuse, but what if, because I do know of ladies whose husbands left them, wanted the divorce, but would not initiate it, and told the wives, you have to go and fill out the paperwork and do it because I'm not going to do it, but I'm never coming back to you.
	So in that instance, for the statistics, it's, oh, the woman filed for the divorce, but she didn't want that.
	So my thing is there's more than just, oh, it was financial.
	Oh, she's unhappy.
	Oh, there's this.
	I just want to know how the data was broken down that you had.
	I don't care.
	I don't know the specific reasons for, you know, whatever.
	I know that women do overwhelmingly initiate divorces.
	My understanding is most divorces are due to some financial issues, financial reasons.
	That's what I've heard.
	But, I mean, to say that majority of divorces are due to abuse.
	I don't know that there's no evidence for that.
	I don't have a phone.
	I can't do any like I can't do any searching up, but you can, so you can let us know what is it?
	What's the cause?
	I didn't know if there was also like the group of men who are like, I don't want to go initiate the divorce.
	I'll let her do that.
	She can do all the work.
	I want my hands cleaned of it.
	Oh, and by the way, that statistic will go back on you because you're the petitioner.
	So it makes the women out to be the ones who are the bad guys initially.
	In that case, I just didn't know if your research had it broken down by percentages like that.
	That kind of happened with my parents.
	They were in a not great.
	It wasn't abusive or anything, but they just weren't good for each other.
	They stayed together.
	And my dad was very much in denial about it, but you wouldn't get file.
	So my mom did when I was 21.
	I wasn't surprised at all, but it, you know, came back on her now.
	They're now 10 years or 11 years out.
	They're actually both doing pretty well for themselves.
	And oddly enough, my relationship with my dad improved greatly after they got divorced.
	So.
	Women too, thank you for the looks like you bought a hoodie.
	Thank you very much for your merch shop purchase.
	I don't know.
	I guess to wrap things up here, I think the best way to structure society on the macro and micro level would be to have nuclear family, to have to have a more traditional dynamic.
	I think that's the best for society.
	I think probably women will be happier with that kind of arrangement.
	Men will probably be happier.
	Marriages will last longer.
	Children will be happier.
	I'm not saying women shouldn't be able to work, but I think the same sort of programming and propaganda that we've put out to make women believe that, yeah, boss, babe, college, blah, blah, blah, pursue career, pursue career, pursue career to the detriment of pursuing marriage, relationship, children, etc.
	We should have some counter programming, counter propaganda to say work is there if you want it, but this is the more fulfilling path: husband, children, that's more fulfilling.
	I think, once again, it depends.
	Oh my god.
	But, you know, definitely, I do know some women in my life who don't like working and would love to be stay-at-home moms.
	And yeah, not everyone's cut out for a career, just like growing up, you know.
	Yo, thank you for the gifted 20.
	Appreciate it.
	They really pushed college for everyone, but some people are more suited for the trade.
	So there's nothing wrong with telling people you can be a stay-at-home mom.
	Okay, I think it's a better way to structure society, though.
	All right.
	That's your point.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	Well, I think that's pretty much it.
	Any final thoughts from anybody?
	Otherwise, I'll wrap up the show.
	Thank you for this opportunity.
	Thank you.
	It was great being on here.
	Thank you, guys.
	You guys are cool.
	It was a fun panel.
	Final thing.
	Can you guys make a machine gun noise one last time?
	Just kidding.
	You go first.
	I did it.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I can't wait to hear yours.
	I just.
	John Lawson.
	I'll wait.
	I'll wait to do it.
	Okay.
	So I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't ask Cena to stop being a strumpet on the internet.
	Will you stop doing OnlyFans tonight?
	Where's the $1?
	The $1?
	The $2.
	Oh, the $2.
	$2 bill.
	Oh, my God.
	She's already trying to finesse.
	Okay.
	So is that a no then?
	No, she won't stop doing that.
	Are you going to pay her bills?
	Stop doing OS.
	Are you going to pay her bills?
	I'll hire you.
	You can be like on one of the Felicities.
	You can just hit me.
	You just, you.
	Yeah.
	No, you can be a background character like Felicity.
	Okay.
	Anyways, it's all right.
	Well, GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Bye.
	Please.
	Shut up, Felicity.
	Wait.
	Please leave a nice comment once the live ends.
	I read them.
	Positivity is nice.
	Say something nice about the show, whatever.
	I thought it was a fun panel.
	It was a fun show.
	Let's see.
	Long show.
	Long, long show.
	I blame Felicity.
	She talks too much.
	Also, I blame Cena.
	She talks too much.
	So yeah, it's all your guys' fault.
	Anyways, thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
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