HEATED Debate With Harvard Grad! HER League = Henry Cavill?! Chloe Roma Army! | Dating Talk #261
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| All right, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. | |
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| Go ahead. | |
| My name is Violet. | |
| I'm 18. | |
| I'm from California, and I go to UC Santa Barbara. | |
| All right. | |
| What part of California are you from? | |
| Well, I grew up in New York, but now I live in the Los Angeles area. | |
| Oh, when did you move to LA? | |
| About six years ago. | |
| Oh, okay, gotcha. | |
| What part of New York were you in, Manhattan? | |
| Manhattan. | |
| Yep. | |
| Okay. | |
| Why the move to California? | |
| A lot of reasons. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's, I mean. | |
| Well, I guess it was your parents' choice. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yep. | |
| It had to be. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| What are you studying at UCSB? | |
| Undeclared right now, actually. | |
| So you're going into your first year? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Undeclared. | |
| All right. | |
| Do you have a sense of what you maybe want to get into down the road? | |
| I have a lot of different senses. | |
| I mean, I'm interested in radio for sure, so I was thinking maybe something along those lines. | |
| Okay. | |
| Rock and roll. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hi. | |
| I'm Summer. | |
| I'm 27 from Scotland. | |
| And I do OnlyFans, obviously. | |
| Why would that be obvious? | |
| Only Facebook is obvious. | |
| Why is that obvious? | |
| I mean, it's so obvious. | |
| I mean, you could be like a nun and also have a chance. | |
| I actually technically like I'm Christian. | |
| Can crushers, what? | |
| I'm like super Christian, so I can. | |
| I could be a nun if I wanted to. | |
| Can you see that across the board, Iraq? | |
| Yes, hold that up. | |
| Hold it up. | |
| She's got a Christian then. | |
| Yeah, I am. | |
| What denomination of Christian are you? | |
| Just Christian. | |
| Like, I would say probably closer to Catholic, but closer to Catholic. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't discriminate. | |
| I love God either way. | |
| It doesn't matter if it's okay. | |
| We'll get into that. | |
| Actually, should I bite? | |
| You can bite if you want. | |
| I don't care. | |
| So, you are religious. | |
| Do you go to church? | |
| Yes, I do. | |
| Every Sunday. | |
| What's the denomination of the church? | |
| I go to a Catholic church every Sunday. | |
| Okay, but you're not quite Catholic. | |
| Oh, it's kind of hard. | |
| I have, like, my parents are different religions, so there's like little bets from different parts. | |
| Okay, and you have you been going to church your whole life? | |
| No, I only started going to church for the past like three years. | |
| Three years. | |
| When did you start doing OnlyFans? | |
| A year ago. | |
| A year ago. | |
| Okay. | |
| And do you always go to the same church or is it a different church? | |
| I go to the same church back home, yeah. | |
| Every single week? | |
| Every single Sunday. | |
| Every Sunday. | |
| Every Sunday. | |
| Okay, really quick question on this, and then I'll continue with the intros. | |
| Do you think, do you believe in God? | |
| Of course. | |
| Do you think God wants you to do OnlyFans? | |
| I don't think He minds. | |
| I don't think He discriminates. | |
| Mary Madeline was a prostitute. | |
| I didn't think that. | |
| There's a dispute over that, but do you think He wants you doing OnlyFans? | |
| You say He doesn't mind. | |
| Do you think He wants you doing it? | |
| I think God wants me to be happy, and I'm happy within my life. | |
| So I don't think God's really happy. | |
| But you believe in the concept of sin? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| I think if what you're doing hurts someone and harms someone, then yes, for sure. | |
| Do you think so? | |
| One of the seven deadly sins, lust. | |
| Yeah, but you're inducing people to lust, you're engaging in lust. | |
| Yeah, I am, but I'm not hearting anyone when I'm doing it, so I don't think God really cares. | |
| So look, if you were atheist, there wouldn't really be, you know, okay, whatever, you do OnlyFans. | |
| Yeah. | |
| For example, like, if somebody told me they're vegetarian, and then I saw them eat a hot dog, I don't care for, if somebody wants to eat a hot dog. | |
| Oh, I eat hot dogs. | |
| That's cool. | |
| But if somebody claims they're a vegetarian, I would have to be like, well, hold on. | |
| You just said you're vegetarian. | |
| You're eating meat. | |
| Are you a Christian? | |
| No, I'm not. | |
| No, you're not. | |
| Do you not believe in God? | |
| Yeah, we can just say that. | |
| Sure. | |
| You believe in God? | |
| So there's so many things in the Bible that are like, you can wear certain different clothing. | |
| You can't do certain different things. | |
| Well, there's the Old Testament and the new people who can class themselves as Christians. | |
| I don't think God really cares if I'm taking pictures of myself. | |
| Is there anything that God does care about? | |
| If you're a bad person, then you're harming another person, probably. | |
| But I also don't. | |
| But what about under the doctrine of the faith? | |
| It would seem to point towards you engaging in the kind of work that you're engaging in is in contravention of God's will and God's word. | |
| Yes, but it's not like apparently harming anyone. | |
| I'm not harming anyone. | |
| I don't think God's looking to be able to do it. | |
| Well, there's some dispute there, but I disagree with that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, let's give y'all the God title then. | |
| You can be God. | |
| But so I guess I'll just ask my question again. | |
| Do you think God wants you to do OnlyFans? | |
| I don't think he cares. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think Satan wants? | |
| I don't think he cares either. | |
| He doesn't capture. | |
| I don't think they care if I'm taking pictures or videos of myself. | |
| I think they care if I'm a nice person, like a charitable person. | |
| That's all I think they care about. | |
| And I am. | |
| So that's all I care about. | |
| In the Catholic faith, do you do confession? | |
| I'm not a Catholic. | |
| I just go to a Catholic church. | |
| Right, but you go to the Catholic Church. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so if you were to go to the Catholic Church. | |
| Just as a Catholic, you have to undergo many steps before you are considered a Catholic. | |
| You have to be baptized into the Catholic Church. | |
| Confirmed, receive your first communion before you're considered a full-fet-fledged Catholic that can receive communion, go to confession, and do some of the other ceremonial things. | |
| Anybody can attend a Catholic church, but not everybody attending a Catholic church is a Catholic. | |
| Whether or not she's a Catholic, she does identify as a Christian. | |
| She's wearing a cross. | |
| She does claim to go to a church every Sunday. | |
| I guess my confusion here is not whether, you know, what specific denomination she is, but regardless of, you know, which one, how you reconcile engaging in essentially online prostitution and calling yourself a Christian. | |
| Yeah, I don't think God cares. | |
| I don't think God cares if I'm taking pictures or videos. | |
| I think God only really cares if I'm physically harming someone or being a mean person. | |
| So the Bible, is it for you? | |
| I think the term is sola scriptura. | |
| It's just up to your interpretation. | |
| I just think that there's so many things. | |
| Wait, but just answer my question first. | |
| What was your question? | |
| So do you, the biblical interpretation, you're the final arbiter. | |
| You choose what is the truth as it relates to theology. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Well, if she can't do that, then you can't either. | |
| Yeah, tell her what to do with her body. | |
| But you telling her she can't be an arbitrator, but you are by telling her what she can and can't do with her body. | |
| Hold on, that doesn't even compute whatsoever. | |
| In the vegan example I gave you, I can talk about a diet or religion. | |
| Quite like those are two different things. | |
| You're already 30 minutes late. | |
| I'll need your attitude already. | |
| Maybe if you're not. | |
| At least fashionably. | |
| What is CPT? | |
| Oh my God. | |
| You're so uncultured, Brian. | |
| Nobody knows what CPT is? | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| There's no way I'm the only person. | |
| Color people, Tom? | |
| Colored, what is it? | |
| Color people, Tom. | |
| What is that? | |
| It's over your head. | |
| We can move on. | |
| No, explain it. | |
| Color people time, like how people are always late, especially, you know, black people. | |
| So at least I showed up on CPT. | |
| But fashionably. | |
| So you're holding up the culture. | |
| Oh, got to, yeah, just a little bit. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| I love that. | |
| So, anyways, I guess again, with the vegan example or vegetarian example, I'm not vegetarian, but if somebody tells me they're vegetarian, then I see them eating a hamburger, I think it's fair to kind of question. | |
| No, I'm like so totally fine with you questioning me, but I just know that God doesn't. | |
| God doesn't care. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, all right, I'm going to move on. | |
| Maybe we can dive into it a bit more later. | |
| Okay, Deep. | |
| But I do think the I do think the there is something as it relates to claiming to be a Christian and what the Bible says. | |
| So I don't think that's a good idea. | |
| Like if you were to, if you were to like get some sort of if you were to talk to the unknown Catholic, is it a pastor? | |
| Priest? | |
| What is it? | |
| A priest in the Catholic Church. | |
| If you went to a priest and been like, hey, you're an expert in theology. | |
| You know, like, is what I'm doing okay? | |
| He would say no. | |
| No, that's not true. | |
| I have spoken to a priest. | |
| You've spoken to a Catholic priest. | |
| I have. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I think the difference is in religion, is the difference in religion in Scotland is so different from your religion in America. | |
| You guys, like, religion's like such a big, huge, massive situation where you have to follow a certain rulebook. | |
| But in Scotland, it's not. | |
| We're just, our priests are nice people. | |
| We don't care. | |
| Okay. | |
| He just says, as long as I'm not hurting someone, I'm not hurting someone. | |
| Like, he says, if you're a good person, you're a good person. | |
| You want to volunteer at church? | |
| Volunteer at church. | |
| You fix it? | |
| I have to go online. | |
| It's not automatically start. | |
| Oh, here, it's look, auto start super chats. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| Do you see that? | |
| Just click that. | |
| It should do it. | |
| All right, hold on. | |
| We have a chat coming in here. | |
| One sec. | |
| Just Gerald donated $200. | |
| God just wants you to be happy. | |
| Show me in the Bible where Jesus said, Nah, babe, it's chill if you get gangbanged as long as you're like, happy and like living your truth. | |
| Cool. | |
| So I'm not getting gangbanged. | |
| So I think that's maybe the even if you're aware you were. | |
| Sex is natural. | |
| God approves of that. | |
| I'd like to, if you really knew about that, just Gerald, the whole. | |
| Well, I mean, if you're a Christian, I think God would approve of sex within the confines of marriage. | |
| I think it's so point blank. | |
| I think you guys are so serious over here. | |
| We, like, obviously, we're not as in our faith. | |
| Like, yes, I go to church every Sunday. | |
| I volunteer at the church every Monday. | |
| I, like, I'm a very well-known person within the church, but God doesn't judge me just because I do OnlyFans. | |
| In fact, my church knows I do OnlyFans. | |
| Everyone knows. | |
| I live in a very small country. | |
| So, okay, your church that you go to, the pastor, not the pastor, the priest knows you do it. | |
| They do. | |
| He did? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| They do, I said. | |
| Accent. | |
| Okay. | |
| He did. | |
| The other members of the congregation know? | |
| Yeah. | |
| We're very welcoming country. | |
| Like, I don't think it matters. | |
| I mean, this is, I'm not, look, I'm not a Christian. | |
| I'm not a Catholic. | |
| But, like, you're Catholic. | |
| I don't know if in your church this would ever be acceptable for somebody to be like openly like a prostitute, essentially. | |
| I mean, you could be an ex-prostitute, I guess, whatever. | |
| But an active prostitute, I mean, that's fake. | |
| So I'm not actually an active prostitute. | |
| I think that's maybe the confusion. | |
| I'm not. | |
| We're sort of parsing terms here. | |
| The way I'm using it, though, more so relates to like you engaging in like online sex work, if you prefer that terminology. | |
| The way I petra is it, I'm just making men happy. | |
| So I think God would be really happy that I'm making other men happy. | |
| What about all the damages that pornography does? | |
| Like what? | |
| Well, there's a lot of damage. | |
| Yeah, can you name them? | |
| I sure can, yeah. | |
| It contributes to porn addictions. | |
| I actually brought, I don't have my phone with me, but I brought some pretty specific statistics with me today from recent studies that they've been doing since 2024 about children, specifically adolescents, meaning under 16, right? | |
| 14, 16? | |
| So is it okay if I just interject? | |
| In the UK, physically impossible. | |
| There's laws in place. | |
| Cats cannot see me, not even on Instagram. | |
| Cats can't see me on Twitter. | |
| It's against the law. | |
| It's against Brian. | |
| May I ask something regarding this point? | |
| Since you got a point to prove. | |
| Yeah, thank you. | |
| Yeah, so my point was that there's a lot of studies that have come out about children consuming pornography and where the majority of them get it from is actually social media. | |
| An overwhelming majority of them came across it accidentally. | |
| And that's just in children. | |
| If you look at pornography in general, it causes porn addictions, anxiety, sleep deprivation, lack of social skills. | |
| There's a lot. | |
| There's a lot of studies showing the harm in not just making it, but also watching it as well. | |
| So I would heavily disagree that you're not harming anybody. | |
| I don't think your intention is to harm anybody. | |
| But the reality of it is that the consumption and overconsumption of pornography is incredibly harmful, not just to women, but to men as well. | |
| To be honest, and respectful at the same time, I'm a Reformed Baptist. | |
| I lean toward that more strict conservative. | |
| And to be frank and honest in a nice way, you showing your breasts and claiming to be a Christian, it actually is killing me inside right now. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| I'm not a diva. | |
| Okay, so I'm not finished, ma'am. | |
| Ma'am, I'm not finished. | |
| And there are people watching porn, so I don't think nobody's sitting there crying. | |
| We're 30 fucking minutes late. | |
| You missed the part. | |
| You should have been on fucking time. | |
| This is the second time you've been on the show. | |
| I told you, if you're going to come back on the show, we're not going to have you constantly interrupting somebody. | |
| This is your final warning. | |
| She ain't finished. | |
| Yeah, but you have a propensity to doing this. | |
| This is going to be your final warning. | |
| Otherwise, you can drive your ass back to fucking LA if you interrupt again. | |
| I'm not finished. | |
| Let her finish. | |
| Let her finish. | |
| If you had been on time, you would have heard the pre-show where Mary went over and said, don't interrupt. | |
| Let people finish. | |
| In fact, I reminded everybody right before we went live. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's good. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Everybody's going to get cut off every here and there. | |
| It's not being found. | |
| I need to be careful with you because you had a terrible habit of doing it last show. | |
| I'm going to give people grace and I'll allow some degree of interrupting, but you've done it already today, and you did it a bunch last time you were on the show. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you're going to get a little bit more attention for that. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I love attention. | |
| That's great. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| So it is offensive to me. | |
| One of the main reasons why I actually wanted to be on the show was because of something that I saw on the show in the past. | |
| Like Brian, like how you're saying, like, you know, if you're propagating that and it's sin and sexual, like, you can't, that's not how that offends the purity of Christ Himself. | |
| There was a girl that was on the podcast a while ago, her name is Cindy, I believe, and she got like a cross on her on her neck. | |
| Like, that was like a fake tattoo, and she said that she would SD for Jesus. | |
| I kid you not, when I saw that episode and I saw that, I paused it and I went on a two-hour walk, just so I was just very, very upset. | |
| I went on a two-hour walk because she, no one should ever say anything like that. | |
| And it'd be according to scripture, if anything causes you to stumble, it's better for you to cut off your hands and your feet than to do that. | |
| And in her case, it'd be better for her if she ripped out her tongue and her vocal cords and never said anything ever again unless she repents. | |
| Because God is a very holy God, and that's not okay. | |
| It's not gonna fly. | |
| Okay, so I'm just wondering why it got you so upset. | |
| Like, what's happening in your life that's making you so upset about what someone says online? | |
| Because it's Christ. | |
| Yeah, no, I get that, baby, but it's I'm not a baby. | |
| Okay. | |
| So the thing is, you said if you love someone, if you love someone, like really, really love them, are you going to be okay with things marring their name? | |
| No. | |
| Nothing's marring his name here. | |
| So my breast, you were saying, yeah. | |
| It's a whole oxymoron to have your breasts showing and a cross sitting on top of it. | |
| That's an oxymoron. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | |
| I have something to say when y'all go. | |
| Got you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So that's top. | |
| You may not think it's offensive, but it is. | |
| Seva, please. | |
| You're cutting her off. | |
| If you were wearing this top, your text will be there. | |
| I wouldn't wear that. | |
| Yeah, your text wouldn't be it. | |
| That's why they're not big enough. | |
| So they're not going to come out. | |
| And I'm okay with the way that God created my breasts. | |
| And I know, like, if I was to put myself on a scale, I'd rate myself for number five because I'm overweight. | |
| Oh, you're such a fan of this shoe. | |
| I love that. | |
| Can you let her speak? | |
| You're being good. | |
| Can she let me speak? | |
| Like, she's like the nicest one here. | |
| And you're like, getting cut off is okay. | |
| Yeah, I've been cut off a lot of times. | |
| Thank you, Chloe. | |
| I'm used to backlash. | |
| I can handle it. | |
| I got you. | |
| So I have a condition where my bibs grow. | |
| They're going to show. | |
| My bibs are going to show. | |
| I'm not going to wear a tartleneck because it doesn't flatter my finger. | |
| I care what I look like. | |
| So I'm not going to do that. | |
| That's absolutely fine if it offends you. | |
| I'm really sorry that it does offend you, but that's not my problem. | |
| Like, if you were to wear that snowball. | |
| No, what I'm saying is that it offends God. | |
| Baby, I don't think it does. | |
| I don't think he cares. | |
| That's not going to help you when you stand before him on Judgment Day. | |
| I'm going to turn your mic down. | |
| We'll be so fine. | |
| All right, go ahead. | |
| Say what you have to say. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I have two points to make. | |
| One to you, Miss Tattoos. | |
| My name is Chloe. | |
| Chloe, gotcha. | |
| Thank you. | |
| So you said something about porn addiction and stuff like that. | |
| I'm not familiar with no porn stats. | |
| I mean, I think that's pretty weird to keep up with in the first place. | |
| But you talking about people are obsessed with porn. | |
| I don't think nobody's sitting in front of their phone whining about a nut they just had. | |
| I think they'd be more relieved. | |
| And second off, you so worried about her titties, so you're giving them the power that you so-called she shouldn't have in the first place. | |
| So you're basically contradicting yourself. | |
| Because why are you paying attention to her titties in the copy? | |
| I think that's weird, too. | |
| You guys have been talking about her boobs for like the past. | |
| Even before we started this show, you keep cutting me off. | |
| I'm talking. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Thank you. | |
| That's all I have to say. | |
| Also, I wasn't talking about my boobs. | |
| You guys were. | |
| Like, I can't control this. | |
| All right. | |
| If I'm going to talk about her boobs, I'm going to talk about her boobs. | |
| But don't be offended when you're talking about her boobs. | |
| Don't bring something up that offends you. | |
| And if it does offend you, be able to talk about it like a mature adult. | |
| So, I can't control the size of them. | |
| I've never been able to control the size of them. | |
| They're just going to keep growing anyway. | |
| So, wear a poncho or something then. | |
| I really don't want to. | |
| You got God on them. | |
| You got God on speed, though? | |
| Let's call him real quick. | |
| Should we ask? | |
| It's called prayer. | |
| And then, one thing about you as a Christian, you sitting here judging her. | |
| Isn't it in the Bible to not judge anybody? | |
| There's a book in the Bible named Judges. | |
| There's a whole book in the Bible named Judges. | |
| Hey, I can take whatever you're going to throw out. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm not going to take your Christian. | |
| I do want to ask you a question just in relation to your faith. | |
| Go for it. | |
| You do identify as Christian and not necessarily Catholicism. | |
| I know you are not a full-fledged Catholic, but that is the faith that you are currently subscribing to. | |
| So, as Catholics, we believe that salvation is achieved not only through belief in Christ, that he is our Lord and Savior, but through our actions. | |
| However, the reason that Protestantism even came about was because Martin Luther separated from the Catholic Church over that belief as well as other grievances. | |
| So, as a Christian, as a Baptist, I believe, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that you believe faith or you believe that salvation is achieved through faith in Christ alone as saved by faith through grace in John 3:16. | |
| There's a lot more to the Bible, though, than John 16. | |
| She's not done talking. | |
| But if salvation is achieved through belief in Christ and accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior, don't you think that she can be forgiven when she stands before Christ? | |
| Only if you repent. | |
| That doesn't mean you just keep going on and on in your sin, thinking that He's just going to let us all slide. | |
| That's not how it works. | |
| You can't keep looking like a devil while you're claiming to be Christian. | |
| That's not how it works. | |
| Can I ask you a question? | |
| Go for it. | |
| Are you a virgin? | |
| I've been SA'd, and I have no further comment on that. | |
| I was asking if you're a virgin. | |
| Have you had sex before marriage? | |
| Unfortunately, I know what you're trying to do, but unfortunately, I was drugged and jugged and SA'd by a gang. | |
| And I willingly say that. | |
| That's a simple question. | |
| It's been torment. | |
| It's been torment for me every single day to try to forgive those men. | |
| It's hell every single day. | |
| Let me parse this a little bit. | |
| We're going to, for the sake of the conversation, we're going to grant that SA would not be losing your virginity. | |
| She's then asking, have you had consensual sex? | |
| Willingly. | |
| Oh, that's so good for you. | |
| Do you wear two different types of fabric? | |
| Again, sorry. | |
| Hold on, stop. | |
| We're getting way too theological here. | |
| We're going to continue on with the introductions. | |
| Can I actually respond because she said something to me? | |
| I just didn't get a chance to. | |
| Okay, make it quick, please. | |
| I'm well versed on stats with porn addiction because it just relates to what I do for a living. | |
| And in regards to being like, well, nobody nuts and thinks, like, oh, that was so awful. | |
| It's called an addiction, right? | |
| Like, usually when you're doing cocaine, for example, you're going to take that rip and you're going to be like, yeah, I feel great. | |
| But there are serious implications in your life because of it. | |
| So it's like, it's called an addiction. | |
| You're maybe not familiar with it, but porn addictions like destroy relationships. | |
| They destroy men. | |
| There are a ton of women that got stuck in relationships with men with porn addictions. | |
| Yeah, but I think it's incredibly prevalent. | |
| Can I say one thing? | |
| I don't think the porn. | |
| I will say I definitely agree that porn addiction is a huge problem. | |
| Of course, it is like any addiction. | |
| But I think that we should be careful about centering that problem around the women that do produce the content rather than the industries that make it possible. | |
| Correct, because if so-called nobody watching porn, but everybody got a porn addiction. | |
| So how can both things be true? | |
| And I don't think it's porn that's the problem. | |
| The people that watch the porn that are the problem. | |
| So, don't make it about the porn, make it about the people. | |
| Why can't it be? | |
| I just don't think it's reasonable to be like, Yeah, I hate the heroin addict, but I'm gonna excuse the person selling the heroin. | |
| Do you think you have a tattoo addiction? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| You got lots of tattoos, babe. | |
| I do. | |
| Tattooing is an addiction, also. | |
| Yeah, if everything can be in addiction. | |
| Like correlations with like self-harm addiction, so I'm just unsure what your point is. | |
| So, do you have a do you have a tattoo addiction? | |
| No, do you think? | |
| Because what's the difference between wanting to actually physically hurt yourself and just jacking off? | |
| Are we deflecting right now? | |
| I'm not. | |
| I have tattoos. | |
| Okay, because I'm just unsure what the correlation is there. | |
| I just want to know where like the whole hatred towards one certain thing is. | |
| I never said that I hated anything. | |
| I'm merely you're sitting over here and saying, Well, God loves me, which I'm sure He does, right? | |
| He does because I'm not hurting anybody and I'm merely telling you I would love to have my phone because I have some pretty shocking things. | |
| You should know it off the top of your head. | |
| I'm actually just, baby. | |
| Okay, anyways, I'm challenging your belief and letting you know that statistics from all over the world-US, Australia, UK, Canada-are showing otherwise. | |
| And because of the increase in the last five years with the popularity of OnlyFans, there's more and more studies coming out. | |
| So, the knowledge is very new and very accurate, despite your belief. | |
| That's it. | |
| May I ask you a question? | |
| Of course, only because I'm curious. | |
| So, you've been a Christian or attending Catholic Church for a long time, but your decision to engage in the OnlyFans content is relatively new. | |
| You've only been doing that for a year. | |
| So, as somebody that has been active in the church and learning more about Christ, what led you to OnlyFans? | |
| Was it a financial decision? | |
| Was it a expression? | |
| What made you want to do that as you're simultaneously in Christ? | |
| So, I used to work in restaurants. | |
| My parents own a bunch of restaurants, so I used to work in them, and I would get sexually harassed daily, anyway, because obviously I have huge massive boobs. | |
| And even when I did wear a tartlenick or as you would like, a poncho, even when I did cover them, I still got sexually harassed. | |
| So, I cannot cover them. | |
| So, I was like, Do you know what? | |
| Maybe I could just play on this and make this my job. | |
| If it's going to happen either way, I'm just going to make it my job. | |
| And then, so little backstory: also, I used to want to get a reduction. | |
| I didn't want them. | |
| I hated my boobs. | |
| I hated my body. | |
| I hated everything about it. | |
| And then, as soon as I had OnlyFans, and I realized that, like, I get gratitude from it. | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| Introduction. | |
| So, you're any college or anything? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Any college? | |
| College. | |
| College. | |
| Oh, yeah, we do university. | |
| But yeah. | |
| I have an art degree. | |
| Just art. | |
| A fine art and portfolio. | |
| Fine art degree. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you're from Scotland? | |
| I'm from Scotland. | |
| Can you say what city? | |
| Glasgow. | |
| Glasgow. | |
| That's the capital? | |
| No, it's Edinburgh. | |
| Oh, right. | |
| But Glasgow's the. | |
| Glasgow's the better city, for sure. | |
| It's the most populous city. | |
| No, it's still Edinburgh. | |
| It's still. | |
| Okay, well, I'm not fucking. | |
| Glasgow's the best city, though, to be fair. | |
| All right. | |
| And can we hear you say a quote from Braveheart? | |
| Somebody asked me. | |
| Something our freedom. | |
| What is it? | |
| Freedom? | |
| What one? | |
| I don't know. | |
| They will take our lives, but they will never take our freedom. | |
| That was amazing. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thanks. | |
| I love that. | |
| No, this is not even scholarship. | |
| Hi, my name is Brittany. | |
| I'm from Orange County, California. | |
| And my primary career is I'm in sports and mental health nutrition and recently back in doing some forms of sex work with Playboy. | |
| And age? | |
| I am 40 years old. | |
| 40, okay. | |
| And you used to do traditional, what's it called? | |
| Like traditional porn or whatever? | |
| Like mainstream porn? | |
| Yeah, long time ago. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Long time ago. | |
| Okay. | |
| I recently kind of got back into doing like Playboy. | |
| And then. | |
| What do you do on Playboy or what's that? | |
| Posing. | |
| Just nude. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then as far as OnlyFans goes, it's similar in the sense of posing nude. | |
| And as far as you, I want to say this to you. | |
| Be smart. | |
| If you're going to do this, be smart, make a plan, and get out as soon as possible. | |
| Because I started in the sex industry at a very, very young age. | |
| And I did not, I didn't have a mentor. | |
| I didn't have anybody to show me the ropes. | |
| And as she was talking about how there's an addiction to it, you get addicted to the fast money and the quick life. | |
| And next thing I knew, I was, boom, it was like, what, 10, 12 years? | |
| And I didn't have a plan. | |
| So when it came to me wanting to transition, it was a very traumatic experience because it was so hard because I got accustomed to that world. | |
| And it definitely played a toll on my mental health. | |
| So I would say if you're going to do this, make a plan for yourself and stick to that plan. | |
| And then your next set plan. | |
| I definitely have one, and I definitely have a lot of people in the industry. | |
| I'm like a baby in the industry, and all my friends are not babies in the industry. | |
| So I definitely have people looking out for me. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Because you're still very young. | |
| Yes. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Who the hell? | |
| Sorry. | |
| Nick, why did you press that, bro? | |
| What was your name? | |
| What was your name? | |
| My name is Brittany. | |
| All right. | |
| Any college? | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, a little bit. | |
| Going back almost 20 years, a journalism major with a minor in communications. | |
| And then from where? | |
| Cal State Fullerton. | |
| Okay. | |
| Which is in Orange County, California. | |
| And then as of recent, I have my sports medicine certification and then also a background in cognitive behavioral neuroscience, which I went ahead and went into a little bit later on due to my son's autism diagnosis. | |
| Oh, you have a kid? | |
| I do. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hello. | |
| My name is Jenny. | |
| I'm 26. | |
| I also do OnlyFans and I do ProShoots. | |
| And I have. | |
| When you say ProShoots, what does that mean? | |
| Like professional? | |
| Porn. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sorry, I just used that. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| 26. | |
| Where are you from? | |
| I'm from Manchester in the UK. | |
| Okay. | |
| And I have a degree in criminology and sociology. | |
| A degree in sociology? | |
| Which university? | |
| And criminology. | |
| Sheffield. | |
| University? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| So is it like here in the U.S. we have double major? | |
| So did you whatever the equivalent is? | |
| I think so. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I think so. | |
| Okay, did you do any work in either of those fields? | |
| No, I went straight to OnlyFans when I was 18. | |
| Is university free in the UK? | |
| No, you have to pay. | |
| How much is it? | |
| God, I don't know. | |
| Do you have student loans or do you have a fund? | |
| Yeah, yeah, you have student loans, yeah. | |
| Do you still have any? | |
| Yeah, I pay it back with my tax every year. | |
| You pay it back, okay. | |
| Just curious, you got at least one of your degrees was in criminology, one in sociology. | |
| Can you tell me maybe like two or three things you learned about sociology that you can just relate to us? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, what about criminology, two or three things you learned? | |
| We just really learned about criminal behavior, and I found it really interesting to learn about different people's behaviors. | |
| I'm very into how people react. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Nothing about sociology, though, that you could. | |
| I didn't really enjoy it, to be fair. | |
| I wish I didn't do it. | |
| Were you awarded a degree? | |
| Yes. | |
| I got a first-class honours degree. | |
| And would that be an equivalent of like a bachelor's degree in the United States? | |
| I'm not sure how your education system works. | |
| Yes, well, I guess to break it down, we have like high school, people graduate at 18, and then they go off to college or university. | |
| Typically, a university is four years, and then they get what's called a bachelor's degree after four years, typically. | |
| Then the step up after that would be a master's degree. | |
| I believe that's another two or three years. | |
| It can vary. | |
| And then PhD, that would be like doctorate level. | |
| That's a couple more years also. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I'm assuming the equivalent for you would be like. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How long were you in school for? | |
| Four years. | |
| So you got to go. | |
| You got a master's or a bachelor's? | |
| We go to college too. | |
| Oh, you go to college first? | |
| But isn't college high school? | |
| No. | |
| No, it's different in the UK. | |
| So we do primary school, secondary school, college, and then university. | |
| College is from what age to what age? | |
| 18 to. | |
| It doesn't. | |
| It's not really age. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But you graduate. | |
| You can go at 16 or you can go at 18. | |
| There's no cap. | |
| I see. | |
| But you have to stay in education until you're 16. | |
| So you did higher education for a period of four years or six years? | |
| Six. | |
| So two years in college, four years in university? | |
| Yes. | |
| I see. | |
| And you have been awarded. | |
| Sorry, what was the name of the degree? | |
| It's a first-class honours degree. | |
| In criminal justice or criminology. | |
| And you can't tell me one thing. | |
| So I actually have a memory loss issue that I've been diagnosed with. | |
| At what age? | |
| When I was 18, so when I went to university, because I got diagnosed with dyslexia. | |
| Why go to university if you're just going to forget everything you learned? | |
| I am a smart person, so. | |
| Well, there's no, I'm not making any disputes or claims as to your intellect. | |
| I'm just simply asking why you're going to forget all of it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is university taxpayer subsidized in the UK? | |
| Well, I'm a taxpayer now, so I pay it back. | |
| No. | |
| Your tax dollars at work? | |
| Not really. | |
| When did you graduate? | |
| When did you graduate from. | |
| Oh, when I was. | |
| So I graduated when it was COVID time. | |
| Well, you're 26. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you said. | |
| 24 years ago. | |
| Wait. | |
| Wait, but you started college at 18? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then you did two years of college. | |
| But the issue is because of the COVID, we didn't have graduation, so technically I wasn't graduated until I walked down and accepted it. | |
| When did you graduate? | |
| 2020? | |
| From college? | |
| No, university. | |
| I'm confused at what you're confused about, to be honest. | |
| Well, 2020 would have been five years ago. | |
| You would have been 21 when you graduated, but you said college is two years, university is four years ago. | |
| She goes to college when she was 16. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I don't know how you were. | |
| But in any case, you have a degree. | |
| I did want to be a probation officer. | |
| And you can't tell me one thing you learned? | |
| I mean, I don't think it's really that interesting. | |
| Karl Marx isn't that interesting to me. | |
| They teach communism and sociology? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You read the Communist Manifesto, Karl Marx? | |
| I didn't read it now, but we had a lot of articles. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Is there anything you remember about sociology that you can remember? | |
| It's not really that important now to me, so no. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't understand why that's not. | |
| Is college a scam? | |
| Is it kind of a scam? | |
| I can still use it in my well, you have the piece of paper that says you were here at these whatever I can still continue with. | |
| But like what actual palpable thing are you bringing to the workforce in terms of because I'm a very kind and caring person. | |
| Yeah, but you could have those traits absent. | |
| Let me finish, please. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| You can have those traits absent going to college. | |
| You can be a kind person and have dropped out of third grade. | |
| Of course, but we can't drop out third grade here in the UK. | |
| That's immaterial to my point. | |
| Whether you went to college or not and the degree you got or not has nothing to do with one's kindness. | |
| No, I didn't say it was. | |
| I'm just saying your point was, why do you not continue with it? | |
| Is that not your point? | |
| You made the claim that, well, I'm very kind and that's what I bring to the workforce. | |
| Yes, I'm trying to explain, but you. | |
| But what would I was asking, okay, you went to university, you went to college. | |
| Yes, I did. | |
| You didn't take, there wasn't fucking kindness 101. | |
| There wasn't good feels. | |
| I didn't say there was. | |
| Right, but I was. | |
| I don't understand your point. | |
| What he's asking is: if you got this degree, but you don't remember anything about it, if you wanted to enter into that workforce, what do you bring to the workforce? | |
| And your answer was kindness. | |
| I think he's looking for a different answer. | |
| Well, he could have been a bit more clearer, but I would say, because I wanted to be a probation officer, so you needed to go into another full year of education to complete that. | |
| Look, we've had a lot of people. | |
| I wouldn't go back to university and I wouldn't have done my degree. | |
| That wasn't the choice that I wanted personally. | |
| It was my family's choice. | |
| And I just went with what they wanted, and that's not what I wanted. | |
| So that's why I have not continued with that. | |
| Right. | |
| I understand that people have different interests in. | |
| I think in the UK, it's like when you're 16, you're told to decide what you want to do. | |
| So it's really hard for a 16-year-old to decide what you want to do when you're older. | |
| Yeah, I get that. | |
| I get that people have different interests in going to college. | |
| Some people do it just to do it. | |
| Some people are actually genuinely there to learn. | |
| But I always find it fascinating, regardless of the motivations or reasons. | |
| I find when we do have people who have gotten degrees in various fields come on the show, even if they've graduated recently, and I simply just ask them, okay, well, can you tell me like one or two things you learned? | |
| They can't tell me anything. | |
| So she has a memory issue, she said. | |
| Well, yeah, but I mean, these other people who I also pose this question to, there's no assertion that they have memory issues. | |
| So it just always kind of amazes me. | |
| People go to university, but they can't even like dictate back to me one, two, or three things that they have learned. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| It's just, I think this is a very intimidating, sorry. | |
| This is a very intimidating setup. | |
| So people can just forget, like when you ask them straight off. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you have to kind of take into account that because this is quite intimidating for a lot of people. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| Is it the memory loss issue? | |
| No, I'm just talking about the other people, not from my point of view. | |
| That's just that you're saying other people. | |
| Well, yeah, sure. | |
| I realize that in certain situations, you're not going to have perfect recall of like every single thing that you're going to learn. | |
| But it would occur to me if you have a degree from a university and the degree is essentially communicating to the outside world and employers, I have some proficiency in this particular thing. | |
| If somebody were to ask you, okay, can you tell me like one thing about it? | |
| Like they could maybe list off like one thing. | |
| Yeah, I understand that, but you're not employing me. | |
| So I don't see why you. | |
| Yeah, but that's not the justification. | |
| Well, it's mine, so. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| Now you're just shifting the goalpost here. | |
| Not really. | |
| Now you're saying, well, Brian, I'm not going to relay the information that I do know because you're not actually here to employ it. | |
| I don't really think it's that interesting. | |
| So I would say that. | |
| I agree with you. | |
| Sociology definitely is not. | |
| I actually want to do it. | |
| So I just did it at college and then. | |
| Love it. | |
| All right, moving on. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hello. | |
| I'm Madam Houston. | |
| Where I'm from in the name, what I do is in the game. | |
| I'm 23 years old, and I got a BA in psychology. | |
| From where? | |
| Texas Southern University. | |
| And you said you're 28? | |
| No, 23. | |
| Oh, 23, okay. | |
| You heard me. | |
| I see you got your lineup for me today. | |
| You're looking good. | |
| You're looking shy. | |
| The fuck? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes, I got my haircut just for you. | |
| I told my barber a woman's going to be on. | |
| What is it? | |
| Am I allowed to say CPT? | |
| Yeah, you need to say CPT. | |
| Can I say CPT? | |
| You said CPT. | |
| Of course. | |
| Do you give me the CPT pass? | |
| I give you the CPT pass. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you for granting the CPT pass. | |
| I told my barber, look, I got to look really sharp because this woman's going to be CPT. | |
| And I got to make sure if I'm going to rebuke her, that I look good. | |
| I can't be looking all disheveled and aggressive. | |
| What about you? | |
| My name is Alyssa. | |
| I'm 30 years old. | |
| I'm originally from Massachusetts. | |
| That's where I was born and raised. | |
| But I currently live in Texas and I travel a good bit for my job. | |
| I'm a professional piano bar entertainer as well as an entrepreneur. | |
| I own a few businesses. | |
| And I have a bachelor's degree from Harvard University in government. | |
| And I have a master's degree in entertainment and music, business, and management from the University of Miami. | |
| Could you go? | |
| And sorry, what was the degree you got from Harvard? | |
| Government. | |
| Government. | |
| Okay. | |
| And so you're a professional piano player. | |
| Are you a virtuoso? | |
| I suppose that would be a matter of opinion. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you also, I don't know if you mentioned this, you were Miss Massachusetts 2016. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Miss America Top 15. | |
| Yes. | |
| All right. | |
| And you went to Harvard. | |
| And you do have a piano with you here. | |
| I do. | |
| We're going to finish the intros, but then we'll have you do a little ditty. | |
| All right. | |
| Wonderful. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Two Ts. | |
| Diddy. | |
| Not Diddy. | |
| Ditty. | |
| Ditty, right? | |
| That's the right word, right? | |
| A little ditty. | |
| Yes, diddy sounds. | |
| Like a little diddy. | |
| Right. | |
| Bounced dragon. | |
| Whatever. | |
| We'll have you do a little something. | |
| If you want to start getting it kind of ready while I have the rest of the panelists intro themselves, what about you? | |
| I'm Sarah. | |
| I'm single, 31, and I'm a nobody. | |
| I don't really have any degrees or anything like that. | |
| I went to Bible College for a few years. | |
| Thankfully, other people in the church donated money to my tuition because I could barely afford to eat at the time. | |
| And I took child development at West Hills Lemore College, but I dropped out because my father passed away. | |
| Longest relationship I've ever been in, it was about two and a half years or so. | |
| I've lived all over California, northern, southern, and Central Valley. | |
| And I currently live in Hanford, California. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| Name, age. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Same stuff. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Name, age, location, occupation, education. | |
| Okay. | |
| My name is Chloe Roma. | |
| I'm from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. | |
| I am 28 years old, international men's rights advocate, and my post-secondary is funeral services and embalming and addictions and disabilities with a specialization in fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. | |
| All right. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Good to have you. | |
| No, that's not boring. | |
| I mean, you already said I could bomb you when you died, so I'm going to do that. | |
| There we go. | |
| It's contractually. | |
| So I'm wondering, is it good to go? | |
| Oh, it can be. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Yeah? | |
| It's on. | |
| All right. | |
| Can I have so what we're gonna do? | |
| What you're gonna do, actually, no, I'm gonna what I'm gonna have you do that mic. | |
| If you can kind of like, you're gonna kind of just like keep your hand on it and like tilt it down towards the piano. | |
| Oh, no, so sorry, I was demonstrating it for maybe lower it, lower it. | |
| That's good. | |
| I think that should be good. | |
| You need like a go for it. | |
| What do you want to play? | |
| You ever heard of two chains, I'm different, like that intro. | |
| Wait, can you do uh what's hey, yeah, get it, but they don't know beats. | |
| Can you do that? | |
| Uh I can play like some like rag time for you. | |
| Do you like rag time? | |
| Uh, Joplin, Scott Joplin. | |
| Sure, we can do that. | |
| Can you | |
| do a maple leaf frag? | |
| That was Maple Leaf. | |
| Oh, sorry, the Entertainer. | |
| My bad. | |
| Can you do the entertainer? | |
| That was good. | |
| Maybe one more, one more. | |
| Should we let the chat decide? | |
| Let me see if the chat wants to. | |
| Hmm. | |
| Do oh, Canada. | |
| No, just kidding. | |
| Can you do the wait? | |
| Oh, my, I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. | |
| Contemporary top 40 pop rob who produced, who is the producer? | |
| I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. | |
| Who is the producer? | |
| Dr. Dre? | |
| What? | |
| Dun. | |
| Oh. | |
| Still Dre? | |
| I don't do that one, but I can do some other Dr. Dreif. | |
| You know that that one? | |
| I would have to hear it. | |
| Dude, do, do. | |
| Wait, how does it go? | |
| Anybody know? | |
| Beethoven's Symphony. | |
| It's definitely. | |
| You're getting there. | |
| You're getting there. | |
| That's pretty much... | |
| That's kind of it. | |
| The doctor. | |
| You know what would be funny? | |
| That I do well is I sing and play and rap all of Forget About Dre. | |
| It'd be funny if you have a favorite party tricks. | |
| You know, you ever seen those stand-up comedians where they'll have like a bass player or something? | |
| Who does that? | |
| Like Kill Tony? | |
| He'll have like a band in the background. | |
| We should have like, I should have a band in the whatever podcast when somebody says something ridiculous and they like play some music or whatever. | |
| So maybe yeah, we're gonna hire you. | |
| Well, thank you for playing something for us. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| It's pretty good. | |
| Maybe we'll have her do a music. | |
| What's it called? | |
| Another. | |
| It's the French term. | |
| Oh my God, why am I blanking on? | |
| When somebody oncore, thank you. | |
| How am I blanking on these terms? | |
| All right. | |
| So, okay, that's everybody's intro. | |
| We got a couple chats, then we're going to continue on, get into the actual content of the show. | |
| John O'Rourke, use those. | |
| Oh my God, am I going to leave this? | |
| Okay. | |
| By the way, our StreamYard super chat thing got fixed, so that's nice. | |
| Use those Tatas to crush a beer can on live stream. | |
| Do it. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's probably not going to happen. | |
| John O'Brien. | |
| Oh, shit, I just, did you see that in there? | |
| Yeah, I can see it. | |
| Here. | |
| Okay, that's below the threshold. | |
| Ben, thank you for the super chat. | |
| Appreciate it, man. | |
| All right. | |
| If you guys want to get a read-in, it's 100. | |
| And we can now do it again a little bit through YouTube. | |
| But anything above that TTSs has to come in streamlabs.com slash whatever. | |
| $200 TTS, Venmo Cash App, Whatever Pod, Twitch, blah, blah, blah, all that other stuff. | |
| And then we have a message here from, one sec, Mimi. | |
| Oh my. | |
| One sec. | |
| Lagging here. | |
| Hello? | |
| Fucking reload. | |
| All right, Mimi, sex workers, how do you feel knowing others are being forced into trafficking and you have free will doing it for shits and giggles and money? | |
| Okay. | |
| What? | |
| It was 100. | |
| No, read is 100. | |
| TTS is 200. | |
| That was a question for you guys, yeah? | |
| I would be happy to answer this question as somebody who is heavily in the business, like heavy, heavy before. | |
| How do I feel about that? | |
| I think that it's terrible. | |
| It's horrendous. | |
| And it's part of one of the huge reasons why I'm for closing of the borders. | |
| Another thing is, is I, you know, do I believe that sex work is just something to just do just because? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Like I mentioned before, if you're going to do it, do it right, make a plan and get the hell out because it will absolutely play a nasty toll on your mental health, on your whole, I mean, because of what it does for the dopamine release neurologically, you get hooked on that, and then everything thereafter is highly affected. | |
| But are the two connected? | |
| I don't believe that they are. | |
| I agreed. | |
| However, if you're going to do it, you need to do it right and get the hell out. | |
| Question for you, actually. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I noticed in your Instagram bio. | |
| Are you a Christian? | |
| I am. | |
| Okay, because I saw you had like a Bible verse. | |
| Ephesians 2.8. | |
| Which is what is that? | |
| Ephesians 2.8. | |
| Through grace I was saved. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| So you're a Christian? | |
| I am. | |
| What denomination? | |
| Non-denominational. | |
| My grandmother practiced hardcore Catholicism, and that's how my father was raised. | |
| And then growing up, I just, we went to a non-denominational church. | |
| I currently do not attend church. | |
| I have not found one in Los Angeles that, how do I say this? | |
| That I feel comfortable at, that I feel a connection to. | |
| A lot of the ones in Los Angeles have become very culty. | |
| However, I practice it in my everyday lifestyle as a parent, as a friend, as a partner. | |
| However, I am aware that things such as Playboy are sinning. | |
| Well, that's what I was about to ask. | |
| Yes. | |
| You know, you have a Bible verse in your bio. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Christian. | |
| I guess I also pose the question to you. | |
| You're actively like the number one pinned thing on your Instagram is a Playboy shoot or something. | |
| And for the release for, yeah, October 1st. | |
| How do you reconcile producing risque content with being a Christian? | |
| So that's a great question. | |
| Because I'm well aware of my actions. | |
| And not to justify it, not too long ago, I had to make a tough choice as far as being a mom and taking care of family. | |
| I was working in sports medicine full-time. | |
| And unfortunately, the clinic that I was working for destroyed me financially, put me in such extreme debt that it kind of was like, okay, I need to make a choice. | |
| What am I going to do? | |
| And like I said before, you know, when you do it for so long and you don't do it right, it becomes a problem. | |
| So, you know, I went to a place that was familiar because I was like, okay, I need to get out of debt. | |
| I have a family to take care of while doing that. | |
| Is it a sin? | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| 1,000% admitted. | |
| Wait, the place you were working at put you into debt? | |
| So I was completely out of the adult industry at this time. | |
| The sports medicine clinic that I was working for back in 23. | |
| Typically, when you're working for a place. | |
| So the owner completely did not pay me. | |
| Okay. | |
| Come to find out that there was a ton of fraud going on in the company. | |
| And I had to pull away. | |
| And I had dedicated my time, my savings to traveling back and forth from Los Angeles to Vegas. | |
| And, you know, I have no regrets because it was an experience. | |
| It gave me an opportunity. | |
| Then, with that, then I had to redirect the business. | |
| Okay, I see. | |
| So kind of a lost investment there a little bit. | |
| Just real quick. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So you keep saying, like, to do it the right way, to do it the right way. | |
| There is no right way with that. | |
| And you know what? | |
| I agree with you 100%. | |
| But if there's going to be someone to do it, I'm not the one to judge and say, get the hell out. | |
| You're going to destroy your life. | |
| But make a plan. | |
| And I'm saying this as somebody as a 40-year-old woman who was in the business for a really long time before I retired. | |
| And I did not do it correctly. | |
| And I dug myself a huge hole. | |
| And it played a huge toll on my mental health. | |
| So when I say do it the right way, make a plan. | |
| Make a savings. | |
| Do not be stupid. | |
| Do not be stupid. | |
| And first and foremost, pay attention to your mental health and the company you keep. | |
| Well, I got to pose the same question to you that I posed to her, which is, do you think that God wants you posing for? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I think so. | |
| So you willfully sin. | |
| I think there is a right way to do it. | |
| Most girls, they get into the game and they do it by themselves and they let that take over emotionally. | |
| And it's just because they don't have possibly somebody taking care of them emotionally. | |
| So I always recommend don't do it by yourself. | |
| It's a right way to do everything. | |
| And it's never, it's not wrong that you show your body off. | |
| It's just how most girls get into the game and they do it because they're running away from the life that they got and not because they want to be in the life that they're getting into. | |
| So just remember that before you make a decision to mess up your life because you don't necessarily mess up your life because you do sex work. | |
| You mess up your life by doing it the wrong way. | |
| Maybe you have a team when you're doing it, have like some type of backbone that somebody can stand up for you. | |
| It's a lot of options. | |
| Just don't do it. | |
| It's a lot of options. | |
| Going back to this. | |
| Yeah, no, absolutely. | |
| Do I think it's, is it Christian-like? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| If I had a daughter, would I tell her, would I want her to do this and would I justify it? | |
| Hell no. | |
| But if she wanted to, you'd have to make sure that she's going to be able to do it. | |
| Well, if she wanted to, I would redirect her in a different direction because absolutely not. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Because at the end of the day, it creates a stigma mentally. | |
| And then it's like when it comes to relationships, when it comes to your bond, just the toll it plays on your neurological health is very damaging. | |
| So if I had a daughter and she wanted to do this, I would sit her ass down and I'm like, absolutely the fuck not. | |
| Excuse my friend. | |
| Sorry. | |
| It only affects relationships if you're choosing the wrong person to be with. | |
| Yes, agreed. | |
| Like, how do you mean? | |
| It'll still affect the relationship. | |
| Just move things on a little bit. | |
| Most girls who are OnlyFans, they get, they have a boyfriend. | |
| Later down the line, they get fetishized by being strippers, by being hoes. | |
| But when they get into the relationship, now the man that she is dealing with doesn't want her to do what she was doing when she first got into the relationship. | |
| That just seemed like somebody was lying. | |
| So possibly get with somebody that doesn't lie to you. | |
| I agree. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe just, look, whatever. | |
| Okay, you're doing the Playboy shit. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe take the Bible verse out. | |
| You know, maybe take the cross off. | |
| No, because I love it. | |
| Maybe take the cross off if you're fucking. | |
| I totally agree. | |
| Bang, bang. | |
| I'm not getting gangbunny. | |
| Okay, whatever you're doing. | |
| You're doing girl girl. | |
| Do you do girl girl content? | |
| I done my first boy girl like two days ago. | |
| It was really good. | |
| Were you wearing your cross? | |
| I will. | |
| You know, look, maybe at least take the cross off. | |
| We always wear it. | |
| Yeah, maybe take it off. | |
| I'm not thinking about it when it's painful. | |
| You're doing the Playboy thing, and then there's a lot of other revealing things on your Instagram. | |
| Look, whatever. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| Well, a lot. | |
| Let me say this in my defense. | |
| Anything other than the Playboy on my Instagram, which can be, it's very public, where I am showing my bottom. | |
| Yep. | |
| Or core, a lot of my core stuff. | |
| I've been currently talking about cortisol detox, the importance of detoxing cortisol. | |
| And for a lot of women, when they're older, I've talked about you're not fat. | |
| You have too much cortisol in your body. | |
| And this is the before and after. | |
| And this is what happens. | |
| The importance of when you're going through a hormone change, when your muscles start dropping, and the importance of maxing out on protein and stuff. | |
| And that is why I show my body because the proof is in the pudding. | |
| So if I'm showing my core and I'm showing my bottom, that I see nothing wrong with. | |
| Now, is Playboy God like? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Is it a sin? | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| So you should just be proud of what you do. | |
| You did sex work and you did that shit. | |
| Well, what I'm saying is this, I am a person and I do align with very conservative beliefs, but I am also aware of what my actions are. | |
| And I'm not going to sit here and justify and say that it's not sinning because it absolutely is. | |
| You don't need to justify, but you also cannot have it both ways. | |
| You can't fall on both sides of the face. | |
| Okay, so just here, to get this moving on here, the question is, do you think God wants you doing Playboy? | |
| And I said no. | |
| Okay, what do you think Satan wants you doing? | |
| Exactly that. | |
| That's it. | |
| All right, that's very difficult to reconcile. | |
| Okay, moving this on, though. | |
| Quick question. | |
| It's an honest answer. | |
| And I'm not going to justify it and try and go beat around the bush. | |
| It's not that it's hard to reconcile. | |
| No, Stop. | |
| Moving on. | |
| Harvard, you went to Harvard. | |
| A couple guests have asked, or a couple people watching have wanted me to ask you some questions here. | |
| Because I don't know if we've, have we had anybody on the show who's been to Harvard? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Let's see. | |
| What house were you in? | |
| So I actually wasn't in a house. | |
| I lived off campus. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's like not very, very common at all. | |
| Yes. | |
| But after your first year, you can live off of campus. | |
| Who's the president of Harvard? | |
| This is a quiz here. | |
| Oh, actually. | |
| Who was the president of Harvard when you were there? | |
| Drew Faust. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Can you name one major lecture hall? | |
| Harvard Hall. | |
| Which is really. | |
| What's the John Harvard statue known as? | |
| What is it? | |
| Like the one that everyone pees on? | |
| No, what's the John Harvard statue known as? | |
| Yeah, the one that every statue of the one in the yard, yeah. | |
| The one that it's the statue of what? | |
| Well, it's not actually John Harvard. | |
| It was like somebody that was pretending, or not pretending to be him, but like modeled. | |
| Statue of three lives. | |
| Never mind. | |
| That doesn't ring a bell. | |
| What is Annenberg? | |
| Annenberg? | |
| Oh, that's the library. | |
| Or no, no, that's the dining hall. | |
| Sorry. | |
| That's the same thing. | |
| I think she's got a lot of things. | |
| I graduated over 10 years ago now. | |
| Congrats. | |
| We just, you know, we got to do a little verification check here. | |
| All right, going around the table once more, getting into some of the dating stuff. | |
| Or you know what? | |
| Hold on, one final question, then we get into the dating stuff. | |
| Charlie Kirk has memorial today. | |
| The question is to the panel: what do you think about what happened to Charlie Kirk, starting with you? | |
| Well, I did not agree with Charlie Kirk and anything that he stood for, but I also think that violence is never the way that we should solve disputes. | |
| Do you think it was justified in any way? | |
| No, I don't think that assassination is justified, but that doesn't change how I felt about him while he was alive. | |
| What do you think about the people who were like rejoicing in his I mean, I think that it's disrespectful to rejoice about violence in any circumstance. | |
| I mean, I understand where people were coming from when they were glad that he wasn't, you know, doing what he was doing because I do think that a lot of it was damaging. | |
| But I also do think that it's disrespectful and also it pushes a narrative that it's okay to solve disputes in that way. | |
| And it's just not true. | |
| Okay, so you disagree with people celebrating or otherwise rejoicing in his assassination? | |
| I would say so. | |
| Okay. | |
| Your thoughts? | |
| I think it's super sad that some American guy died, but I think people die every day and we should be sad about that also instead of just caring about one person that's died. | |
| I also don't think people should be rejoicing that he died, but I don't think that it should always be just about him when people are dying every day. | |
| Every second. | |
| But you do understand that typically when somebody has a really large following, and especially if they've had an impact on people and you've been well connected, that this is going to obviously draw more attention because of the public nature. | |
| No, totally, which is really sad that he died. | |
| And obviously, I don't agree with guns or anything. | |
| Your thoughts? | |
| I have no words. | |
| It's heartbreaking. | |
| The response of people. | |
| Absolutely disgusting. | |
| I've never been one to get emotional over a person's death who I've never been in person connected to. | |
| However, the response of people, the lack of humanity, shook my soul in a way that I can't put words to. | |
| Even the other day, I had reposted something about all these people getting closer to God. | |
| And because of this, they're like, I've never been to church. | |
| I've never believed in God, but I'm going to give this God this God thing a try. | |
| And all these testimonies. | |
| And somebody had responded, yuck. | |
| And that just, that, that took me out. | |
| And it just kind of shows where humanity is at. | |
| And. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I think no one should die. | |
| I'll be assassinated. | |
| I don't agree with gun violence. | |
| I don't agree with Charlie Kirk. | |
| I'm not going to mourn the wicked, as it says. | |
| So it's sad he died, but it doesn't really affect me being in the UK. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I think Charlie Kirk died doing what he loved, which was debating people. | |
| So I don't think it was a more badass way to go out. | |
| Okay, so you think it was a badass way? | |
| But I mean, in terms of what happened, do you think it was justified? | |
| Do you think he deserved it? | |
| I don't think nobody deserves to get gunned down because they got, you know, an opinion. | |
| I mean, that's like me getting shot because I say I hate Brian. | |
| I wouldn't want that to happen. | |
| So I don't agree with somebody getting gunned down because if that's the case, then we can't say nothing. | |
| And if we can't say nothing, this isn't the great country that we come from. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| And you think wrong, the people that are celebrating or rejoicing? | |
| You think that's wrong? | |
| I think to each his own. | |
| I can't tell nobody what to do. | |
| I mean, I suppose you can't tell people what to do. | |
| Well, I suppose you could tell people what to do, whether they follow you or not, is another thing. | |
| But do you, just from your own perspective, do you think it would be wrong to celebrate or rejoice? | |
| Them being happy that Charlie Kirk died is freedom of speech. | |
| Charlie Kirk having his opinions was freedom of speech. | |
| So I don't think Charlie Kirk would disagree with the freedom of speech. | |
| There's no dispute that it's freedom of speech, but clearly certain speech, even if you're free to say it, can be deemed like a wrong thing to do. | |
| Like, for example, it's free, like technically, I could just like walk up to somebody in the street and just be like, you're fucking piece of shit and walk away. | |
| Well, yes, it's my freedom of speech, but I'd be like, that's wrong to do. | |
| But I have the freedom to do it, but it'd be wrong for me to do that. | |
| Yeah, that's when we're getting into the semantics. | |
| I'm just talking about freedom of speech. | |
| That's it. | |
| Like, that's what he was an advocate for. | |
| And I don't agree with somebody getting taken out for being an advocate for freedom of speech if that's what he was doing in the first place. | |
| But so my question is, people are rejoicing and celebrating his death. | |
| There's no dispute that they have the freedom to do that freedom of speech. | |
| The question is, is it wrong? | |
| That's their freedom of speech. | |
| Right. | |
| We've established that it's their freedom of speech. | |
| Like, okay, for example, would you agree that it's freedom of speech to say racial slurs? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I would rather somebody know, I would rather know somebody who's racist so that I can say, fuck you back. | |
| Right, but you wouldn't have been wrong. | |
| Like, it would be wrong to say a racial slur towards somebody. | |
| That's their freedom of speech. | |
| They could say whatever the hell they want in this country. | |
| I mean, isn't that a good thing? | |
| Again, there's no dispute that freedom of speech exists, but I'm trying to, you can't make any delineation as to like, right, it's freedom of speech, but like this saying this is wrong or bad or malicious or evil. | |
| Well, the Bill of Rights don't con, they don't cover whether it's wrong or not. | |
| It's just rights to protect freedom of speech. | |
| I wasn't done talking. | |
| Thank you. | |
| So the Bill of Rights covers the freedom of speech, the freedom of threat, the freedom of press, the freedom of religion, and you got the freedom to say whatever the hell you want. | |
| So if somebody say whatever they want to me, I'm glad I could say what I want back, whether it's right or wrong. | |
| Hold on. | |
| When we're talking about right and wrong, good and evil, we're not, this isn't something necessarily legislated. | |
| We're not saying this should be like a crime. | |
| You shouldn't be allowed to say. | |
| So there's already agreement that it is free speech. | |
| But are you saying you can't make determinations as to what kind of speech or words that people say that you, on your own level, find reprehensible? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me phrase it like, let me frame it like this. | |
| It might be a bit better. | |
| You've had a boyfriend, right? | |
| I've had friends that were boys. | |
| You've been involved with men romantically. | |
| Has a man ever said something rude to you? | |
| Of course. | |
| So we would agree that it's freedom of speech to say rude things. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But would you agree that it's wrong or bad or you shouldn't say rude things to people? | |
| Well, he may not have thought it was wrong. | |
| That's just the freedom of speech that he had. | |
| Okay, what if a guy? | |
| Just standing for what Carly Church said. | |
| If a guy called you, he wanted to say and debate whatever he wanted. | |
| People can say and debate whatever he wanted. | |
| I don't think he would disagree that somebody could say whatever they wanted, whether it was good or bad. | |
| Because are we talking about logic or are we talking about emotions? | |
| If you were in a relationship with a guy, is there anything that the guy could say to you that would upset you? | |
| Of course. | |
| Like he called you a name or he was verbally abusive. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And that would be wrong, right? | |
| Of course. | |
| Okay, so you're able to make determinations there. | |
| But you would not accept, for example, the justific. | |
| Well, I have freedom of speech, ergo. | |
| I have freedom of speech, ergo. | |
| I should be able to be verbally abusive to my partner. | |
| You'd be like, no, it's wrong to be verbally abusive, even though you have the freedom to be verbally abusive. | |
| I just haven't gathered that much of an opinion about it. | |
| People are using their freedom of speech, which Charlie Kirk so-called stood for. | |
| So if they stand in on it, I don't think he would. | |
| Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. | |
| You don't need the bell of the chart of rights and freedoms to tell you whether or not. | |
| And then that's just hypocritical because it's only okay when you're not offended. | |
| What? | |
| Wait. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Why are we smearing the conversation? | |
| I said what I said. | |
| Let's just move on. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've explained it three different ways. | |
| Okay. | |
| Your thoughts? | |
| I think it's terrible. | |
| It's actually beyond my comprehension that it can't universally be agreed upon that murdering someone in front of their children and wife and thousands of other people is wrong and not something that should be celebrated. | |
| The other thing is if you look, I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk on every position that he took. | |
| I think he had the right to say it. | |
| I mean, at least he encouraged that dialogue. | |
| And a lot of people are not doing that. | |
| So I think he really paved the way in a lot of different ways. | |
| And sure, everybody has their freedom of speech. | |
| They can say what they want. | |
| They can feel however they want. | |
| I just think that it's a matter of decorum. | |
| I think it's distasteful to put online or amongst your friends or your coworkers that you're happy somebody died. | |
| I think that that is just distasteful. | |
| There are certain things that you wouldn't say in a public forum, like a racial slur or something of that sort. | |
| And you have to understand if you say those sorts of things that are inflammatory and distasteful, there could be potential consequences of that. | |
| So I don't agree. | |
| I don't hate people if they're glad that he died, but I think it's distasteful and gross. | |
| Maybe I want to take one final crack at explaining this. | |
| Okay, for example, somebody to you, Madam, what's her government name? | |
| You got my name right. | |
| There you go. | |
| Madam Houston. | |
| I'm going to call you H or something. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Give me a nickname. | |
| I'll be right back. | |
| Careful of that, Nick. | |
| Okay, so I believe somebody has the freedom of speech to walk up to a racial minority and say a racial slur. | |
| I think that nobody should do that and that that's wrong, but they technically have the freedom of speech to do it. | |
| And they may, there may very well be consequences for that kind of speech, either directly from the person they're saying it to, although that, well, that not justifying that either, but there would be like if I walk up to like a really buff guy and I'm like, what's up, bitch? | |
| Like, like, I'm probably gonna get smacked in the face. | |
| Like, technically, it doesn't give him like legal justification to assault me. | |
| But, like, if I walk up to somebody and like a dude, and I'm like, what's up, pussy? | |
| I'm getting a fucking smack in the face. | |
| In that same vein, though, I don't think, and I would say it's wrong to walk up to somebody and call them a racial slur. | |
| Do you agree with that? | |
| Everybody has their wrong, and everybody got their right. | |
| All right. | |
| That's thank you. | |
| He didn't like Charlie Kirk. | |
| It's okay to say that. | |
| Thank you for engaging. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| Somebody who advocates for freedom of speech. | |
| All right. | |
| Moving on, what about you? | |
| What do you think? | |
| Quick thoughts, if you can, please. | |
| Yes. | |
| I can hear Erica crying in my heart. | |
| I can just hear her crying from wherever she is. | |
| And the reason why I bring that up is because in the book of Genesis in the Bible, when Cain killed Abel, it says that Abel's blood was crying up from the ground to the Lord. | |
| And I believe that Charlie Kirk will have his day in God's court. | |
| And many people who have disparaged him, I have no doubt that they will bow down to him and they will know that God has loved him. | |
| And you can read that in Revelation. | |
| All right. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Chloe, your thoughts? | |
| Yeah, I didn't, you know, I agree with some topics of Charlie Kirk's. | |
| A majority disagreed with. | |
| However, I find it awfully moronic how the left in the U.S. is supposed to be like so anti-gun, yet they're the first ones to celebrate an assassination. | |
| I think that's absolutely ridiculous and the highest form of hypocrisy. | |
| But everybody look hypocritical to me. | |
| Anyways, what can you do about it, right? | |
| I think it's pretty tragic that he got killed in front of his children. | |
| I don't think that's a boss way to go out or however she put it. | |
| I think sorry, I'm just speaking. | |
| I think it's awfully tragic, and anyone that's celebrating it needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| Yeah, do you want to revise the whole boss way to go out thing? | |
| I say badass. | |
| He died doing what he loved. | |
| Wouldn't we all want to die doing what we loved? | |
| Or die unhappy? | |
| Your choice. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| All right. | |
| You know, in a strange way, I kind of understand what you're saying because obviously it's horrific. | |
| It's terrible. | |
| But think of the conversation that this has led to. | |
| Think of all the new turning point chapters that this has started. | |
| If you're going to die, at least he died in a way that his legacy is being magnified like tenfold over. | |
| It's sparking national conversation. | |
| I think it will lead more people to the right. | |
| Once again, it's a terrible thing, but if you have the option, I'm going to get hit by a bus or I'm going to be killed in a way that sparks movement and sparks reaction and continues my legacy for generations to come. | |
| Correct. | |
| Maybe that would be preferable. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't necessarily completely agree with you, but I kind of understand what you're saying a little bit. | |
| So, what I'm hearing is that we should be okay with evil things because good things can come out of them somehow. | |
| No, that's just real life. | |
| We can't avoid bad shit happening. | |
| That is my good thing. | |
| Thou shalt not kill. | |
| That's one of the ten. | |
| And you suppose everybody shall love thy neighbor, but it don't seem like you're doing that. | |
| So you got to apply all the rules. | |
| I don't think she said that it was a good thing that Charlie Kirk was killed. | |
| I, at no point, look, I'm not defending one person or the other. | |
| I don't think she ever said that it was a good thing he was kidding. | |
| But I like using the example: if you're going to get hit by a bus or your death is going to spark a national movement, that you started from the ground up. | |
| That sounds like how the devil's logic is. | |
| Do you think he would rather have gotten hurt by a bus? | |
| Who hates the devil? | |
| Y'all sure don't know what he's doing. | |
| No one gets to determine when somebody dies. | |
| There's a reason why it's in the top 10 of the commandments. | |
| Right, thou shall not kill is a commandment. | |
| And thou shalt love thou neighbor. | |
| And nobody's killing our neighbors loving them. | |
| I don't think anyone's saying that. | |
| You're putting words in my mouth, and I do not appreciate that. | |
| Barrier Wisdom donated $200 for chair five. | |
| Free speech matters, but if we stop caring about right and wrong, the streets pay the price. | |
| No morals means more bodies, more chaos. | |
| That's not freedom, that's decay. | |
| I think the rights are just a good fundamentals to start with. | |
| However, things go after that is just life. | |
| We can't cry over spilled milk. | |
| Like, shit happens in life. | |
| We can't avoid real life. | |
| This ain't the internet. | |
| Okay, I mean, I think everybody here universally agrees that it is wrong and unfair to randomly shoot a human being that you disagree with, and that that is a terrible thing that should not be done. | |
| I'm pretty sure everybody agrees on a baseline at that concept. | |
| I don't think anybody is celebrating or saying that it is justified or okay. | |
| Okay, I have a question. | |
| Never mind. | |
| I have to wait till she gets back. | |
| You can go back to her. | |
| Okay. | |
| So I have a question for the whole panel. | |
| What's your relationship status? | |
| If you're single, how long have you been single? | |
| And what's the longest relationship you've been in starting with you? | |
| I'm single. | |
| When did we break up? | |
| Yeah, when did you break up? | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm single. | |
| I've been single for two years. | |
| My longest relationship's nine years. | |
| Okay, and how did that end? | |
| Like amicably. | |
| We were together when we were really young, so we just grew up different people. | |
| Like mutual. | |
| Yeah, I was mutual, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay, and then you said you've been single for two years. | |
| Has anyone been in the picture in the past two years? | |
| I've had like little somethings, but nothing exclusive. | |
| No, I don't, I cannot, because I was, I was in a relationship like my whole life, like my whole adolescence. | |
| I'm kind of wanting to just be single, be me. | |
| So you've just been having like situationships and stuff? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, just having a good time. | |
| Okay. | |
| Not even, to be fair. | |
| I don't slick around. | |
| I'll go back to you. | |
| So the question was: relationship status. | |
| If you're single, how long have you been single, and what is your longest relationship? | |
| Oh, single. | |
| Longest relationship. | |
| Like, I don't know. | |
| Sort of undefined, I guess. | |
| It's hard to say. | |
| How long have you been single? | |
| Oh, I would say probably a year. | |
| So were you like on and off with the last person? | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| Was that your longest relationship? | |
| Longest undefined relationship? | |
| Okay, was it like a situationship or probably just like no labels or anything? | |
| But like, did you say like I love you? | |
| No. | |
| How long was it on and off? | |
| A few months. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Like less than six? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| So not that long. | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not a huge dater. | |
| Got it. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I am freshly single, probably about like a month or so. | |
| My longest relationship was six years. | |
| And I'm sorry, what was the other part of the three-tier question? | |
| Relationship status. | |
| If you're single, how long have you been single and what's your longest relationship? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| So there you go. | |
| My longest relationship was six years. | |
| And I'm single and I've been single for like about a month. | |
| And was that the one that ended a month ago? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, what was the one that ended a month ago? | |
| So we were friends. | |
| We've been friends for like almost six years. | |
| And then we started dating probably back in January. | |
| And then that's when I stepped away from everything. | |
| And because I'm regardless of the work that we were discussing earlier, I don't believe that while in a relationship that those kinds of things should go on. | |
| So I had stepped away from everything and was really trying to have a traditional relationship. | |
| And there was a lot of infidelity, lies, dishonesty, and it just unfortunately ended very ugly. | |
| So. | |
| You cheated on him? | |
| No, no. | |
| I was kidding. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Done, done. | |
| No. | |
| So how did you find out he cheated on you? | |
| I was shooting his content while he was in this studio. | |
| Oh, I was shooting his content, you know, just getting like BTS of his studio stuff. | |
| And these messages just keep popping up. | |
| These messages. | |
| And I'm never one to go through anybody's phone. | |
| If I feel like I have to do that, I'm done. | |
| I'm out. | |
| I'm gone. | |
| This isn't where I need to be. | |
| And all these messages just kept popping up. | |
| And I pretty much saw enough. | |
| And there was just levels to it. | |
| And then, yeah. | |
| So. | |
| And how long did you say that relationship was? | |
| About eight months. | |
| But unfortunately, we were friends, so for much longer. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about the you said six years? | |
| Yes. | |
| And when did that end? | |
| Back in 2020. | |
| How did it end? | |
| I think we were just both in very different extraneous details. | |
| Yeah? | |
| I'm single. | |
| I've been single for four years. | |
| And my longest relationship was four years. | |
| Okay, and how long have you been single again? | |
| Sorry? | |
| Four years. | |
| Okay. | |
| So was that four years ago, the four-year relationship? | |
| And how did that end? | |
| He was very abusive towards me, so the police got involved. | |
| I had to move. | |
| It didn't end very well, but that's why I've been healing from that. | |
| I've gone to therapy, just working on myself. | |
| Okay, and in the past four years, have any other guys been in the picture? | |
| Not really, no. | |
| I like just sitting at home with my cats. | |
| I'm not really a dater. | |
| No hookups or anything? | |
| No, not really. | |
| Other than work, I don't. | |
| I haven't slept with anyone off camera in four years. | |
| Okay, so like for OnlyFans and stuff? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But that's a bit, I class that as different. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because I don't have emotional connection to these guys, so. | |
| Okay, and how many would you say you've seen? | |
| Not many. | |
| I don't do many collapse, so. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I've always been single, but I'm always ready to mingle. | |
| You've been in the longest relationship? | |
| I've never been in one. | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| Like, situationship. | |
| Situations. | |
| I probably have set a standard for about six months, and that person just didn't rise to it. | |
| So maybe about six months is the longest. | |
| When was your last, I guess, situationship? | |
| Um, that was back when I was studying in school. | |
| As of lately, I've just been trying to work, so I would say like last year. | |
| Okay, and was it mutual or did someone end it? | |
| No, it was nothing to end. | |
| It was just you just like stopped talking and grew apart. | |
| It was just fun. | |
| Okay, okay, what about you? | |
| I have a long-term monogamous partner. | |
| Because of his job, we keep our relationship very private, which is the exact opposite of my job, which is, you know, very public-facing. | |
| So we've been together for several years. | |
| For how many years did you say? | |
| Several. | |
| Oh, several. | |
| Okay, so about three. | |
| And that's your longest? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Have you had any relationships before? | |
| I did. | |
| I had a few other long-term boyfriends that were one or two years. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm single. | |
| Longest relationship I've been in was two and a half years. | |
| And I'm waiting on the Lord for my godly, dangerous gentleman. | |
| Nice. | |
| How long have you been single? | |
| Three years? | |
| And three years ago, was that the two and a half year relationship that ended? | |
| Yes, ma'am. | |
| And how did it end? | |
| Was it mutual or no? | |
| Well, he was interested in me at first and I wasn't. | |
| And then when it flip-flopped, he told me that he never wants to get married to anybody at all. | |
| And then, lo and behold, he's married now. | |
| But I dodged a bullet on that one thing thanks to the Lord. | |
| Was he also religious? | |
| Yes, but I had some issues with some of the things he believed, but I kind of looked over them because of other things. | |
| And he's never had a girlfriend or anything like that before, so I didn't think he really knew how to have one. | |
| So I gave him the benefit of the doubt and the grace. | |
| And, you know, I still care about him, but not in that way anymore. | |
| But yeah, I'm thankful that I do have a future to look forward to. | |
| Yeah, what beliefs did you disagree with about him? | |
| He said that he wanted to be like the angels in heaven because they don't marry or aren't given in marriage. | |
| So he wanted to be like that. | |
| But he also had a resolution that he said to never get married. | |
| But I was the one who shook that conviction of his. | |
| So it definitely hit me for a side swipe when I ended up loving him. | |
| And he just told me that he only wanted to talk to me because I brought him closest to the Lord. | |
| So yeah, it was pretty selfish of him to use me like that. | |
| I do forgive him, but I hope that no one ever has to go through what I went through with that. | |
| Sound like he just wanted to get into that pussy. | |
| No, he actually, he said the reason why I liked him was because he was a good boy. | |
| He was righteous and he loved the Lord. | |
| I would not have been interested in him otherwise. | |
| I'm very strict about who I date. | |
| I've only dated twice since I've come to Christ. | |
| That's good. | |
| And I like good boys. | |
| I like good old boys. | |
| They're the best. | |
| Yeah, I think she said that she's a virgin. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, just because she's a virgin doesn't mean nobody trying to fuck her. | |
| I'm not saying that. | |
| I'm just saying that, yeah, she said it was religious reasons that he was using her and not explicitly. | |
| Yeah, I'm saying that. | |
| That's really degrading. | |
| It's not your degrade. | |
| That's degrading. | |
| It's natural. | |
| It's degrading. | |
| That's deliberate. | |
| You're degrading me. | |
| That's making me into a sexual object. | |
| Yeah, well, we are. | |
| We are women. | |
| I'm not a sexual object. | |
| Whatever you call yourself, that's what you can be. | |
| That's the best part about America. | |
| You are what you want to be. | |
| Do you talk like that to everybody? | |
| I talk like this. | |
| Yes, I'm the same person. | |
| That everybody, that people just want to F me. | |
| Is that okay to say to somebody? | |
| I think it's the truth. | |
| No, that's not okay. | |
| You don't even know me. | |
| Why would you say that? | |
| I don't know, but I'm not going to lie to you. | |
| Okay, well, spare me the pure and don't say anything about it. | |
| I'll lie to you. | |
| What you have to understand is it's not personal to you. | |
| She has an ideology of how men are, and she's projecting that onto you. | |
| It has nothing to do with that. | |
| It's just the truth. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, no, I meant that in a good way to you. | |
| No, I know. | |
| I'm not stupid like some people think that I am. | |
| I find that as an advantage sometimes. | |
| It is. | |
| Definitely is. | |
| I don't think nobody's stupid. | |
| Anyways, moving on, I am engaged. | |
| So that's why pull up. | |
| I got engaged last year. | |
| February 21st. | |
| Oh, very pretty. | |
| Very cute. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| Okay, and how long have you been with him? | |
| Almost two years. | |
| Okay, and this is your longest relationship? | |
| No, my longest is three and a half years. | |
| Oh, how did that end? | |
| We were like teenagers and just kind of outgrew each other. | |
| It's a long story, but it was amicable. | |
| It was good. | |
| Mutual. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, got it. | |
| And then, so that you said the other one was two years or three years? | |
| My current one? | |
| No, the previous one. | |
| Who I dated before that? | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| Oh, yeah, that was three and a half years. | |
| Oh, well, who was in between that? | |
| Oh, I've only had like, I think, two. | |
| I've only dated a total of five people. | |
| So, and all of them have been long-term. | |
| So I'm not 100% sure, to be honest with you. | |
| I think it was like a year and a half, the one before that. | |
| Okay. | |
| But he passed away. | |
| Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| R.I.P. Oh, my gosh, that's actually really sad. | |
| I know. | |
| Sorry to darken it up. | |
| No, it's fine. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Well, you're engaged. | |
| I'm very happy for you. | |
| Thank God. | |
| When's the wedding? | |
| We're just still saving for it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Two years from now, 20, what? | |
| Seven, I think. | |
| Two years from now. | |
| 28. | |
| 2028, we'll get married. | |
| Okay, nice, nice. | |
| And I'm going to ask different questions. | |
| Brian, should I just do the questionnaire? | |
| I'm coming back. | |
| All right. | |
| All right, we're going to jump into questionnaire. | |
| Not the questionnaire here. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Going around the table. | |
| Actually, you know what? | |
| No, let's do. | |
| Sorry, I had to step away for a moment. | |
| We have a chat coming through from If it'll load. | |
| Wait. | |
| Did I do this one already? | |
| Sorry if I didn't. | |
| Barrier Wisdom donated $200 for chair five. | |
| Free speech matters, but if we stop caring about right and wrong, the streets pay the price. | |
| No morals means more bodies, more chaos. | |
| That's not freedom, that's decay. | |
| Damn. | |
| Yo, Barry, thank you for the $200 TTS. | |
| Sorry for the delay on that. | |
| If you want, because of the delay, if you want to send in, our minimum threshold is 10. | |
| I'll treat it as a TTS. | |
| Basically, I'll just read it for 10 just because of the delay there. | |
| Sorry about that, man. | |
| I had to step away there for a moment. | |
| Okay, so the question is: we have from our friend Stiffler after a very long time away. | |
| Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10. | |
| You can't pick seven. | |
| We're gonna, who do I start with? | |
| We're gonna start with you. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Of course. | |
| I consider myself a nine. | |
| Nine. | |
| Okay, then we're gonna come over here, go around. | |
| Oh, um, I mean, it depends how I feel. | |
| It changes all the time. | |
| Sometimes I feel like a six, and sometimes I feel like a ten. | |
| It just depends how I'm feeling. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think I can be objective about it because it's hard to have an objective point of view of what you look like. | |
| What's your subjective point of view? | |
| I just said it depends on how I feel. | |
| How do you feel right now? | |
| Right now? | |
| Well, I just got pulled off the street, so I would say I feel you look beautiful. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Since I can't say seven, maybe an eight. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Wait, can you do me a favor? | |
| Can you move that glass to your other side there? | |
| Hold on. | |
| I need to go. | |
| Does it look crazy on camera? | |
| No, it's good. | |
| Anyways, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think maybe like six point five. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Today's definitely a six. | |
| Today's a six. | |
| All right, what about you? | |
| I say nine because confidence is key. | |
| Nine, because, okay. | |
| Well, you said nine. | |
| What about you? | |
| This is looks alone. | |
| Yeah, just looks. | |
| I would say a six. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Five because of my weight. | |
| All right, Chloe, what about you? | |
| I actually usually say seven, so I'm going to say eight. | |
| I'm feeling good. | |
| All right, there you go. | |
| I give myself a five. | |
| We do have two remarkably attractive women, though, at the table. | |
| We have a nine and a nine, you and you. | |
| So what I'd like to do typically when we have model quality women here at the table, I like to ask, could you tell me, like a woman who's a celebrity, who you think is a nine? | |
| I think every woman is a ten, to be honest. | |
| I love women. | |
| No, I love women. | |
| You said you were a nine, though. | |
| So just to be clear, all other women are tens, but you're down here at nine. | |
| Yeah, because I love women. | |
| I think women are superior. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| I think every woman on this table is a 10. | |
| Women are superior. | |
| Let's dive into that. | |
| Are you talking because the conversation's about looks? | |
| Are you talking about looks? | |
| Just how are women superheroes? | |
| Like, all women are superheroes? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Just by virtue of... | |
| Yeah, they've got so much strength. | |
| Physical strength? | |
| No. | |
| What kind of strength? | |
| They carry a baby for nine months. | |
| Give birth to the baby. | |
| You're a parent. | |
| You work. | |
| Women. | |
| Education, they do it all. | |
| Well, so not all women, though, want to have children. | |
| That's true. | |
| I think the majority of women here don't have children. | |
| So because the women who haven't had children here, are they not superheroes yet? | |
| No, I still think they're great. | |
| But that was your justification for women being superheroes. | |
| Yeah, but they can. | |
| They can carry children for nine months. | |
| Well, I suppose. | |
| Yeah, but so could a cow. | |
| What? | |
| Okay, so. | |
| You don't want to be classed as a ten in me. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I'm trying to complain. | |
| Well, you said nine, though. | |
| No, I'm trying to compliment everyone, but she's being a bit funny about it. | |
| Me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I didn't say anything. | |
| I just said. | |
| You said a cat can carry a brain. | |
| You can speak. | |
| Yeah, you can speak good. | |
| I will. | |
| So giving birth does not automatically make you a grace to God. | |
| That's catalyzed. | |
| I don't believe in God, so it doesn't affect me. | |
| It's. | |
| Chloe, you're an atheist or agnostic. | |
| Me? | |
| Are you agnostic? | |
| I'm a Coptic Orthodox Christian. | |
| Oh. | |
| What? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I'm wearing a cross right now, Brian. | |
| Well, the point I was trying to make is sometimes people use terms and it, like, thank God. | |
| It's not like, okay, well, I'm not a, we're just, it's common language. | |
| We don't really say that in the UK. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You say, oh, my word. | |
| Kind of. | |
| Women are superior. | |
| Let's dive in, though. | |
| Women are superior. | |
| What do you mean by that? | |
| I just think that they're great. | |
| Okay, well. | |
| Every woman that I know is the strongest woman that I've ever met. | |
| Every how could that pop? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Every woman you've met is the strongest woman you've ever met. | |
| So they're just all equally strong? | |
| Yep. | |
| I think women are strong. | |
| I mean, if you don't agree, then you think women are below you. | |
| Then that's your issue, not me. | |
| I don't think that's what he's saying. | |
| No, that's not what I'm saying. | |
| I'm questioning your position. | |
| Yeah, that's fine. | |
| So. | |
| I can appreciate women. | |
| And I think that's a good thing. | |
| Yeah, but hold on. | |
| I think women are great too. | |
| I don't think you justify why I think women are amazing. | |
| Well, okay, but hold on. | |
| You're kind of smuggling in a different. | |
| Yeah, you are. | |
| You're smuggling in something very different from what you originally said. | |
| You originally said women are superior. | |
| So I think women are great. | |
| I think women are amazing. | |
| But I'm not prepared to say women are superior. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| I wouldn't make that claim in either direction. | |
| I think, although I would say that women are better at some things, men are better at some things. | |
| But I don't think either or is superior. | |
| That's quite strong language. | |
| Explain to me the superior component. | |
| I just did. | |
| You can't carry my money. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| So hold on. | |
| You said women are amazing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay, no contest, not contesting. | |
| Why would because women amazing, why would that translate to women superior? | |
| I don't really need to justify why I think women are superior. | |
| I just do. | |
| That's just the way that I feel. | |
| You kind of, when you make a claim, it's not really an opinion. | |
| Right. | |
| Okay. | |
| You have a different opinion than mine. | |
| Even an opinion can be backed up with justification. | |
| Yeah, but I don't feel like I need to justify myself. | |
| came onto a fucking podcast lady what the fuck if a man was sitting here Don't swear at me. | |
| I wouldn't swore at you. | |
| Please don't swear at me. | |
| I would appreciate you not wasting time and trolling and just engaging in good faith. | |
| You've agreed to come. | |
| Look, you've agreed to come on the podcast and have various discussions. | |
| You guys asked, reached out, what, two, three months ago. | |
| you have some familiar familiarity with the program if you just say well i i'm just going to throw out an opinion but i don't feel i'm not going to justify the I actually haven't watched the podcast. | |
| Okay, great. | |
| Congrats. | |
| You're now on the podcast. | |
| But if you're going to say something and you're engaged in a discussion-based podcast. | |
| I'm having a discussion with you, but I agree. | |
| Right, but so when I ask you for your justification, I'm not asking you to reveal your social security number. | |
| I'm asking why do you think the thing that you think? | |
| That's fair game on a discussion podcast. | |
| I just think like that. | |
| I don't, I never thought that I would need to justify why I think. | |
| If a man were to sit up here and be like, men are superior to women, would you not want to like women? | |
| I don't really care what people say. | |
| People have different opinions. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Can I ask something? | |
| Because I'm just a little confused. | |
| I'm trying to follow. | |
| I can completely recognize the difficulty of women giving birth and how magical that is. | |
| Maybe I blanked out for a little bit. | |
| I was just a little confused how that pertained to your initial all women are tense. | |
| If we're looking just at physical. | |
| I just think that all women are beautiful. | |
| I never. | |
| I was like, oh my gosh, I think I missed something. | |
| No, no, I just look at every woman and think that they are beautiful. | |
| I'm never one to drag on people's looks. | |
| Are all men tens? | |
| I mean, it depends. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Why were you so confident in saying all women are tens? | |
| Why can't you? | |
| I think it's just the relationship that I've had with men. | |
| I have a better relationship with women than men, and that's why my opinion can be tainted. | |
| Kaibaka, thank you for the gifted 20 subs. | |
| It's not letting me pull it up, but thank you, Kaibaka, PPC in the chat. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Okay, all women are tens. | |
| Women are superior. | |
| Well, I guess I'll go back to my question. | |
| Can you tell me a woman who you think is a nine or a ten? | |
| That's what we would. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Arina Grande. | |
| Ariana. | |
| She's a nine or a ten? | |
| She's a ten. | |
| And clarification: are you a nine or are you a ten? | |
| I'm a nine. | |
| But you said all women are tens. | |
| Yeah, but I don't cost you a ton of money. | |
| Trans or something? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, if all women are tens, you're a woman. | |
| Women in my eyes are 10. | |
| So everyone, not my women. | |
| But not you. | |
| I think it lends itself to my point about how it's hard to make an objective opinion about yourself because I think your view of yourself is warped more than your view of other people. | |
| Yep. | |
| We all ugly to somebody. | |
| Not me, but I mean, you know, everybody ugly to somebody, and everybody is good looking to be a person. | |
| Well, what's up? | |
| Tell me a woman who you think is a nine or a ten. | |
| Nia Long, Lisa Ray McCoy, Sana Lathan. | |
| Who the fuck is that guy? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know anybody, the people you just named. | |
| Well, you can pull them up. | |
| They're all beautiful women. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nick, pull up one, I guess. | |
| What was the Nia Long? | |
| Which one's the most beautiful? | |
| Nia? | |
| I like how Lisa Ray McCoy looks. | |
| What's her name? | |
| Lisa Ray McCoy. | |
| Lisa Ray McCoy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's see some photos. | |
| They're all actresses. | |
| We have very beautiful women here at the table. | |
| Guys, every. | |
| Oh, she is beautiful. | |
| Beautiful. | |
| Like, young her or current? | |
| She's aging gracefully, in my opinion. | |
| She's a little bit older, maybe 60s, I would say. | |
| Yeah, you got to look up her players' club, her players' club pictures. | |
| So if you're going to ask me a question, see the question throughout. | |
| Don't try to pussy food. | |
| Who's a woman who's a 10 for you? | |
| For me? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Taylor Swift. | |
| What was that? | |
| Taylor Swift is a. | |
| I don't know how you Americans think of her. | |
| Be like girl. | |
| We love her in the UK. | |
| Well, you like her music? | |
| Because we're talking about looks. | |
| Yeah, she's beautiful, inside and out. | |
| Okay. | |
| Pull it up. | |
| Just, I mean, people probably know what Taylor Swift looks like, I guess. | |
| But. | |
| All right, there you go. | |
| You got Taylor Swift. | |
| So you're just, you're a nine. | |
| She's a 10. | |
| You're one point below her in looks. | |
| Yep. | |
| You can disagree. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I guess as it relates to this subjectivity, so obviously beauty is, it is subjective, but it's not strictly subjective. | |
| There are, I believe, there are some objective components to beauty. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, I guess. | |
| All right. | |
| Nobody has any pushback on that. | |
| No, Brian, it's strictly. | |
| It's strictly subjective. | |
| Beauty, strictly subjective. | |
| We have Pelagic here. | |
| He just sent three clown emojis. | |
| Nick, pull it up in the supers. | |
| There it is. | |
| Pelagic. | |
| Three clown emojis. | |
| Okay, well. | |
| I mean, he disagrees. | |
| He disagrees. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I guess, how about a guy? | |
| Can you tell me a guy who you think is a nine? | |
| Henry Cavill. | |
| Henry Cavill's a nine. | |
| Yep. | |
| Nick, Google a photo of Henry Cavill, please. | |
| And then we'll go to the Discord looks tab afterwards if you want to also work on that. | |
| Okay, Henry Cavill. | |
| So do you pull up Henry Cavill, the mustache one there from Men's Health? | |
| He's so big. | |
| At the top, top middle, top middle, men's health. | |
| Just click. | |
| All right, Henry Cavill. | |
| Okay, there he is. | |
| Just curious, show of hands, who here finds Henry Cavill attractive? | |
| Is he a good-looking guy? | |
| All right. | |
| I mean, he's not ugly. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| If I were looking at this, I mean, people have different challenges. | |
| So Tummels, you know? | |
| Look, I think typically people tend to pair up in their same range. | |
| You're nine. | |
| You say Henry Cavill's nine. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I believe he's single currently. | |
| No, I think he has a baby and a wife. | |
| Okay, hypothetically, I want to think he's single. | |
| Do you think you could... | |
| I'm not really interested in dating, so no. | |
| If you were? | |
| If you were. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Just to be clear, if Henry Cavill slides into your DMs tonight, you're going to be like, you know what, Henry? | |
| Not really. | |
| Timing's not going to be a good thing. | |
| Timing's not right. | |
| I mean, it would depend on the situation because he has got a baby and a wife. | |
| That's going to stop you from dating Henry fucking Cavill. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, okay. | |
| If he's single, I don't know if the baby should stop you. | |
| I think it depends on the relationship he has with his baby mom. | |
| I don't want to step on anything like that. | |
| Is he married? | |
| I think so. | |
| I don't know the details. | |
| If he's married, obviously. | |
| But in this hypothetical scenario world. | |
| I mean, it would never happen because it's hypothetical. | |
| What would never happen? | |
| Well, I'd never be in the same room as Henry Cavill. | |
| I mean, that's what you're talking about. | |
| That's probably true. | |
| But so you just on the looks front, though, you and Henry Cavill. | |
| I mean, he's a man, so it's a bit different because they have different features. | |
| Yeah, that is true. | |
| Men and women do have different features, but it's okay to disagree, but it's fine. | |
| But like. | |
| I have confidence in his family. | |
| Here. | |
| Are you in his league? | |
| Are you in Henry Cavill's league? | |
| No, because he's a man. | |
| Put a woman next to me. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Hold on, what? | |
| You realize though? | |
| Isn't what you're talking about? | |
| Are you bisexual? | |
| No. | |
| You're heterosexual? | |
| Yes. | |
| You're straight. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So your league wouldn't. | |
| You're wanting me to date Henry Cavill. | |
| Your league would comprise of men. | |
| What? | |
| Can we just answer questions directly and not be like disingenuous and like thank you, Chloe? | |
| No, she's true. | |
| It's like just engaging. | |
| Also, don't complain if the show goes late because you guys can't just give me like a answer. | |
| Just give me the answer. | |
| Yes. | |
| There's your answer, yes. | |
| Yes, you're going to be up your ass, Tell Brian. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes, you're in. | |
| I'm not going to because I'm fat and you're not. | |
| And that's what the issue is. | |
| Yes, you're in Henry Cavill's league. | |
| Yep. | |
| Cheers. | |
| Are you going to ask me? | |
| I'm going to ask you. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Thank you, Mascara. | |
| I sent the asteroid. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Dude, that actually fucking scared me. | |
| Oh, how about this? | |
| Check this shit out, Chloe. | |
| I sent the fucking missiles. | |
| I'm blown up. | |
| The way it angled in, it was so perfect. | |
| I know it was coming. | |
| Yeah, it would have seared the side of your face first. | |
| What in the Americas? | |
| I would have used you as a human shield. | |
| So, okay. | |
| Who's a guy who you think is a nine? | |
| Morris Chestnut. | |
| Morse? | |
| All right, Cuckoo. | |
| I don't know who these people are, bro. | |
| Who the fuck is that? | |
| Morris? | |
| Morris? | |
| He is a popular actor. | |
| You don't know. | |
| This guy from the 1930s. | |
| No, like the 90s and early 2000s. | |
| Oh shit. | |
| Okay, handsome dude. | |
| Ain't he handsome? | |
| All right, there you go. | |
| He got his path. | |
| So, your league? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What? | |
| Have you slid into his DMs? | |
| I would. | |
| I should, huh? | |
| Yeah, do it right now, actually. | |
| Go get it. | |
| I don't got my phone. | |
| All right, that's cool. | |
| All right. | |
| You got to slide into his DMs. | |
| I'll just say this. | |
| Why can't? | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| I'll DM him. | |
| Hey, do you want to be on the show? | |
| You got to bring me back. | |
| Hey, I'm going to get Sylvester Stallone on the show because, you know, whatever he watches, I guess. | |
| He watched the clip, I should say. | |
| I guess, look, my criticism here would be, why don't, or why can't average women just say they're average? | |
| Because women are vain. | |
| You know, we are all about our looks. | |
| So I don't think a woman wants to accept if she's ugly or not. | |
| Well, I think what the problem is culturally. | |
| You're right, I guess. | |
| I think what has happened within the last five years is that if you look in the early 2000s, we as a society were so hard on women for how they looked. | |
| Like, do you remember that picture of Jessica Simpson and everyone called her like obese for being a size six? | |
| And he had like some of these runway shows, you know, where they would just degrade these girls for, you know, maybe being 120 pounds. | |
| And then I think what happened is combined with other different social trends is that like a lot of things happening in America, the pendulum swung so far in the other direction because there was all this negativity that was sort of unwarranted. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Wait. | |
| Beauty standards for women, yes, have been always difficult, but I would say they're way worse now in 2025 than they were back then. | |
| And my argument simply would be, if you look at the proliferation of plastic surgery, it's way more the case that women are getting all these different, they're getting fake breasts, they're getting lipo, they're getting BBL, they're getting a fuck ton of work done on their face. | |
| Yes, okay, there was an expectation that women be a certain dress size or be thin or skinny or whatever, or whatever it is back then. | |
| Well, I say it's still the case now, although there's perhaps more, there's different body types that are deemed as attractive, like the thick, curvy, whatever. | |
| But there's still women who don't perfectly fall into any of these categories still today. | |
| And then with the rampant proliferation of plastic surgery, which I think makes things way more, way further away from achievability, if back then it was just like, okay, just be skinny. | |
| But back then, 20 years ago, there wasn't like a massive expectation that women be blasted with Botox, have lip filler, have the buccal fat removal, have lipo belly, have fake tits. | |
| Like it would be maybe women, like you'd see one out of 10 women who had, no, one out of 100 women who had fake titties back then, and that was it. | |
| They got fake titties, that was it. | |
| You didn't see the fake, the crazy lips. | |
| You didn't see any of the shit. | |
| Now it's way, now these surgeries, a lot of them are dangerous. | |
| So I'd say the beauty standards are worse today than they were 20 years ago. | |
| Well, if more men called it ugly, then maybe women would stop doing it. | |
| Okay, I'll do it. | |
| I say that. | |
| Oh, that shit looks terrible. | |
| Thank you for saying that. | |
| Don't get plastic surgery. | |
| I think the problem is, and maybe I'm biased because I did. | |
| I grew up in the entertainment industry. | |
| I competed in pageants. | |
| Those sorts of things have always existed, and there's always been a lot of people. | |
| There's a lot of people that have plastic surgery, but the accessibility to it and sort of the transparency we're seeing more than ever before, people, regular people who are not in entertainment are saying, oh, this is something that I can do. | |
| This is something I can go pursue. | |
| So you see more, I guess we can call them lay people pursuing these beauty treatments or surgeries because I think social media, while it has made the standard higher, it's also kind of taken away the mystique of it. | |
| Maybe you wouldn't know that, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago that the number of celebrities that have plastic surgery or have work done, like people thought they actually just looked like that. | |
| But now it still exists, but it's more rampant because it's not gatekept to the same extent. | |
| And in my opinion, I think whether women want to admit it or not, they love male attention. | |
| So they wouldn't do it if it wasn't for the male attention that they get by doing it. | |
| So if more men said it was ugly, I'm pretty sure women will remove those lip fillers, remove those thick asses, and be themselves. | |
| Well, that's not true. | |
| Men have opinions on women all the time, and we say, no uterus, no opinion. | |
| Like, what are you talking about? | |
| Women aren't looking at men and being like, well, like, men have been saying forever that they find like natural attractive, and women have gone like a other way. | |
| So I just don't think that's a good idea. | |
| Correct, and that's the woman's problem by doing something that a man doesn't like. | |
| Technically, to piggyback off of what you just said, with women, like God created us to be beautiful. | |
| There's a reason why we're the fair sex. | |
| And it has been natural throughout all the ages. | |
| But in this, sadly, in this very crooked generation that we live in, the enemy of their souls are just laughing. | |
| He's laughing at the way that women believe lies these days. | |
| There's no even resistance anymore. | |
| It's like, oh, this liberty did it. | |
| Okay, I'll do it too. | |
| Like, it's just, it's ridiculous. | |
| I don't get where that conversation just went. | |
| Listen, what the hell are you talking about? | |
| Play devil's advocate with you, though. | |
| I think a lot of women pursue these things not necessarily for the male gaze. | |
| I think a lot of people do it for their own either self-esteem or because they want to pursue it. | |
| Because you're right, there are a lot of men that are straight up saying, I don't like this look. | |
| I don't like the lip filler. | |
| I don't like that. | |
| But women are pursuing it anyway. | |
| And I think there are. | |
| There are a lot of women because it makes them feel good. | |
| It is how they want to be presented or express themselves. | |
| That's just my opinion. | |
| Well, yeah, definitely some of these procedures are not strictly for the male gaze. | |
| Like, I'm trying to see if I posted something in the Discord, but if Brian doesn't like lip fillers or ass injections, I sure ain't getting it. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| You're welcome. | |
| W. | |
| I mean, me personally, when it comes to the plastic surgery, I'd prefer, and, you know, people will say, well, you'd still like what these surgeries are trying to replicate. | |
| But I would say this, and I've said it a bunch of times on the show, almost any plastic surgery procedure you could list to me, I'd prefer the person as they were prior to the procedure. | |
| So it's like perfect fake breasts. | |
| I'd prefer a girl who has like nothing or an A-cup over perfect fake breasts. | |
| I prefer a girl with no butt over a girl with a BBL. | |
| I prefer a girl with a little belly fat over the lipo belly. | |
| I think it looks weird. | |
| I'd prefer. | |
| You also have to give attention to that though, because you're highlighting women with BBLs and fake titties, but you're not highlighting the beautiful women that don't have any of that. | |
| So you can do that. | |
| Wait, what do you mean me? | |
| You can do that. | |
| You interrupted him to tell him to do something that he's already doing. | |
| I'll find you a bunch of women with small titties. | |
| I'll be like, she's beautiful. | |
| Don't get some. | |
| But you didn't start with that, though. | |
| You're finishing with it, but you didn't start with it. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| She's just trying really hard to have a point. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| Like, what's hard to follow here? | |
| Oh, I had a point. | |
| I proved it. | |
| I mean, it's a conversation, is it not? | |
| Holy fuck. | |
| It's a conversation. | |
| Brain cells. | |
| Brain cells. | |
| Losing brain cells. | |
| Somebody's bitter. | |
| Me? | |
| Oh, I said. | |
| Somebody. | |
| You better label yourself as bitter. | |
| If the shoe fits, then wear it, Bookie. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| No, I think that you're actually just like really rude and you've come to this table with some sort of like stank attitude. | |
| You're really rude on your own. | |
| You think I'm wrong? | |
| Yeah, I think I'm. | |
| I don't think you're rude. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| I'm not trying to be a bit more. | |
| What did that mean? | |
| I'm not a shot of you in the conversation. | |
| Well, I think you're very abrasive and disrespectful. | |
| And I'm not going to be able to do that. | |
| Oh, I'm not shot in disrespectful. | |
| I respect everybody's opinions. | |
| That's all part of conversation. | |
| I hope so. | |
| Because I'm the wrong one. | |
| You know so. | |
| I think I got you. | |
| Chloe, are you going to let her call you pookie and get away with it? | |
| I didn't even hear that. | |
| She called you Pookie. | |
| I always say I hear something when I don't want to address it or when I'm too scared. | |
| Look, if you think that I'm like intimidated by you or that anybody is intimidated, actually just let me speak. | |
| Let me speak. | |
| Anybody's intimidated, bro. | |
| Are you going to let me speak? | |
| Let Chloe speak. | |
| Okay. | |
| Jesus Christ. | |
| Speak or speak. | |
| Chloe, you got this. | |
| I just got to like maintain my composure. | |
| Yeah, there's nothing personal, but you're pissing me off. | |
| No, I just. | |
| If I'm pissing you off, then I'm controlling you because I'm controlling your emotions. | |
| Anyways, I'm not intimidated by anybody. | |
| I'm not going to intimidate you. | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| Pipe down. | |
| Relax. | |
| I think you need to relax. | |
| Right. | |
| Geez, it's getting hot in here. | |
| Well, I just think what you're doing is like, there's a word reactive. | |
| It's not abuse, but it's like reactive. | |
| You're right. | |
| She has been. | |
| She's poking, I feel abusive. | |
| And then the moment that somebody reacts to you. | |
| I'm not trying to poke a beer. | |
| I'm just trying to have a conversation. | |
| Isn't that what podcast is for? | |
| Chloe thinks that you're not. | |
| I think we're not going to agree on everything. | |
| You have been, I feel abused. | |
| You think so? | |
| I'm a victim. | |
| I think you got a kink for that, Brian. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Yeah. | |
| You wouldn't have me back here if you didn't like it. | |
| Why did you just wink at me? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think that's just something in my eye. | |
| What the heck? | |
| All right. | |
| Good talk, I guess. | |
| So, oh, we have, hold on. | |
| We got a message here from Doomy. | |
| I think this is one of your friends, maybe, Chloe. | |
| Chair three, ironically showing us why women aren't superior. | |
| Both genders have their strengths. | |
| Unfortunately, being centered in reality isn't a strength for some of these gals. | |
| Shout out to Roma Army. | |
| Thank you, Dumi, for the past. | |
| Love you, Dumi. | |
| Also, somebody bought a hoodie, a sweatshirt or something from the shop, the merch shop. | |
| Wait, did it come up? | |
| Is it hello? | |
| Is it there? | |
| It is. | |
| Yeah, my cousin bought one last time we were here and it didn't pop up, and she was super excited about it. | |
| Oh, that's weird. | |
| But we got the shirt. | |
| That's a bunch of stuff. | |
| Shopped out whatever.com. | |
| Oh, Nick, you can pull up in the stream yard, just shop.whatever.com. | |
| There it is, guys. | |
| Get yourself some merch. | |
| We'll give you a shout-out during the stream. | |
| Okay, so the looks ratings, that's great. | |
| Everybody here is so, you know, just amazing. | |
| Really, Henry Cavill, though, really? | |
| If you would disagree, that's fine. | |
| He's really hot. | |
| Stop it. | |
| Get some help. | |
| What would you write yourself? | |
| Oh, five. | |
| Oh, I didn't hear you. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Wait, question. | |
| Can you rape me? | |
| I won't be offended. | |
| No, I think you're an attractive guy. | |
| Just a little bit of a shit. | |
| Just looks, though. | |
| I know I'm a piece of shit. | |
| I get that I'm a piece of shit and I'm rude, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Just on my list. | |
| A seven. | |
| Okay, so if you and me were dating, you'd be settling for me. | |
| No, I wouldn't have a date you. | |
| Your opinions are a bit too much for me. | |
| Wait, where is it? | |
| Oh, no, he calm. | |
| He calm. | |
| It's too difficult for him to press a button. | |
| Fuck. | |
| But if we were, I get that you would never date me. | |
| Totally cool, ditto. | |
| That's fun. | |
| But like, looks-wise, you'd be settling for me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Now, look, chat, I know I've gained a bit of weight. | |
| Actually, that's all I have to say. | |
| I'm losing it, though, boys. | |
| I'm down five. | |
| I was going to say, I think you're losing the breath. | |
| Boys, I've been on a diet for like a month, boys. | |
| It's coming off, finally coming off. | |
| No more fucking excuses. | |
| I've been eating healthy. | |
| I'm glad. | |
| I'm glad you're listening, yo, fat, bro. | |
| You do look a little better. | |
| Your hoodie looks a little bit cleaner. | |
| You got your lineup. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Head and shoulders, you know. | |
| Get into damn chocolate. | |
| That's the key. | |
| I still got a few flakes. | |
| Wait, sorry. | |
| I feel like. | |
| I gotta replay it. | |
| I gotta replay it because we were kind of talking over it. | |
| Damn, I'm screwing Barry. | |
| I'm screwing Barry over tonight. | |
| Damn, dude. | |
| And he didn't even send in a 10. | |
| Wait, did he send in a 10 to make up for it? | |
| Yeah, he did. | |
| Mario Wisdom donated $200 to me. | |
| Wild how that's just life turns into attitude when pressed. | |
| You can fight panelists, but you can't fight reality. | |
| Reckoning always comes rolling on the floor laughing emo. | |
| Wisdom. | |
| Thank you for that. | |
| Sorry we were talking over it the first time it came through. | |
| Wait, what the frick? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Oh, we got cups. | |
| Abby Dan. | |
| Blaze donated $1,000. | |
| Toast again to the wonderful life of Charlie Kirk. | |
| Glad to see some intelligent women on this call. | |
| Tear 5 will get muted before the end of the night. | |
| Drunk Brian last week was Kool-Aid F. Were you drunk last week? | |
| That's really scary. | |
| Terra Fire will get muted before the end of the night. | |
| If I get muted, y'all not the way you can't be. | |
| Nick, you don't have to be aware of it. | |
| I am the podcast. | |
| Okay, I don't know why I came through twice. | |
| Blaze donated one. | |
| Yo, W's in the chat for this fucking legend. | |
| Wonderful life of Charlie Kirk. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Who here wants champagne that's of age? | |
| Champagne? | |
| Champagne? | |
| Thank you. | |
| Champagne? | |
| Really? | |
| I'll take some. | |
| Okay. | |
| Champagne? | |
| Hey, you're going to get drunk with us, bro? | |
| Champagne. | |
| Champagne. | |
| Thank you. | |
| You drink mine. | |
| I want to see drunk Brian. | |
| I think that's what we all want. | |
| I hope you're not an abusive person. | |
| What did you say, Charlie? | |
| What'd you say? | |
| Should we do cider? | |
| I was like, I think that's what we hope. | |
| You want some apple cider? | |
| Oh, no, I got some apple cider. | |
| Apple cider. | |
| I'll take apple cider. | |
| It's sparkling. | |
| Okay, it wasn't you. | |
| Non-alcoholic. | |
| Apple cider. | |
| Will you drink apple cider? | |
| Is it gluten-free? | |
| Oh, is apple cider gluten-free? | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| We don't have it, so I don't know. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| It's gluten-free. | |
| It's vegan. | |
| I'll have a kosher. | |
| Probably. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'll toast. | |
| All right. | |
| Here, while I'm doing this, Chloe, while I'm opening this, do you want to pose a question to the panelists? | |
| No, the other ones. | |
| Do you want to, Chloe? | |
| You want to. | |
| No. | |
| Yes, please. | |
| I'm a little distracted, Chloe, so take it away. | |
| We want Chloe questions. | |
| I like questions. | |
| I like Chloe's break. | |
| Chloe, you had something that you wanted to ask. | |
| I like Chloe's insight. | |
| When? | |
| Like in the pre-show notes that you provided. | |
| You wanted to dive into this. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So now that I have the opportunity, I wanted to bring it back to you about the porn and how it's not hurting anybody. | |
| Now that I have my phone and I have my drugs. | |
| Oh, you have your stuffs. | |
| A nigga behind me will know it off the top of my head. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| What were you saying, Chloe? | |
| Good for you. | |
| Anyways. | |
| So. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Can you just fucking Jesus Christ? | |
| Where did you find this girl? | |
| I was thanking you. | |
| I was thanking her. | |
| No. | |
| I don't get where the animosity is coming from. | |
| It's a conversation. | |
| Do you want anybody with the ball? | |
| Oh, I used to be a bowl girl. | |
| Look at that. | |
| I got it. | |
| You sure? | |
| Yeah. | |
| The problem with these ones is let the fucking air out. | |
| It's not going to pop. | |
| Do you want me to do that? | |
| No, I'm getting it off, but it's not going to pop. | |
| That's it. | |
| We are no longer buying these fucking Andre brute or whatever the fuck because they don't pop. | |
| Sorry, go ahead, Chloe. | |
| Go ahead, Chloe. | |
| I wanted to take the opportunity to educate you on the harm of porn. | |
| I've seen your Instagram. | |
| It's all incredibly pornographic. | |
| So I brought. | |
| Can I just speak? | |
| You're not. | |
| Can you stop with the like witty? | |
| It's not, like, I'm not the one. | |
| I'm just trying to be direct here. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I think you're mean. | |
| I think you are mean. | |
| Jeez, girl. | |
| I think we need to let Chloe talk. | |
| Everybody else has had their turn. | |
| I think Chloe needs to have her time. | |
| Thank you so much, David. | |
| I appreciate you. | |
| You don't even know her name, damn. | |
| What were you saying, Chloe? | |
| Anyways, there's new studies that are coming out about children and adolescents that are consuming pornographic content, the type of content that you make on OnlyFans and on Instagram, because I would, am I right to assume that you don't have the 16 and under blocker on your Instagram? | |
| In the UK, it's against the law to not, so we actually do. | |
| Right, so there was actually an investigation about that because a 2025 investigation actually into Instagram. | |
| So that came in like last month. | |
| Can I stop talking for now? | |
| No, I'm just educating her because she doesn't know what to do. | |
| After she's finished. | |
| Yeah, so I have actual statistics. | |
| They recently studied both in the UK. | |
| This applies for UK, USA, and Canada. | |
| A 2025 investigation into Instagram teen accounts found that the platform does recommend body shaming content and sexually explicit content under the 18 under the age of 18, despite the claims that they don't. | |
| So that's actually a lie. | |
| It's a big controversy. | |
| So we know we can wipe that away, right? | |
| Are you listening? | |
| Are you tuning me out? | |
| No, to be fair. | |
| Continue. | |
| Okay. | |
| So are you going to have like a good faith? | |
| Because you're sitting here being like, well, God loves me because I'm so good. | |
| And I'm trying to like, I'm trying to challenge your beliefs here and you're tuned out. | |
| So I guess I should just start with the question. | |
| Are you open to having your beliefs challenged or are you going to sit there like cocky and making half-witted comments? | |
| That's why I'm here. | |
| Okay, because your attitude right now, how you're engaging with me, is not in good faith. | |
| I have an attitude. | |
| I don't have an attitude. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, you do. | |
| I don't. | |
| This is just how I speak. | |
| Okay. | |
| Anyways, thank you. | |
| So in Australia, 75% of adolescents have encountered online porn. | |
| 39 were under the age. | |
| 39% were under the age of 13. | |
| And 40% said that the exposure was accidental, such as coming across OnlyFans models pages on Instagram. | |
| Instagram, TikTok, and Snapchat is primarily where they access it. | |
| In Canada, over one-third of teens who have intentionally seek porn do so weekly through social media accounts, such as yourself. | |
| But I don't show porn on my Instagram. | |
| It's pornographic, it's not. | |
| You don't think so. | |
| You don't think that. | |
| You don't think that making videos and like lingerie with your boobs out and like doing videos and lingerie I have videos and bikinis ex-women okay, so your account is pornographic. | |
| We can. | |
| We can stop like dodging it. | |
| Porn porn doesn't. | |
| Porn doesn't just mean like somebody's like fucking somebody else or touching themselves. | |
| Pornographic content is like, under the guidelines of like nudity, explicit content that I mean. | |
| Well, it's not. | |
| Oh, Jesus. | |
| You can pill it out. | |
| I do have a quick question for you. | |
| I'm not familiar with either the laws you're talking about or the guidelines of Instagram. | |
| Doesn't Instagram have some sort of filter in place that bans pornographic? | |
| No, so they claimed that they did, but they did a research. | |
| Was that in the UK only or in the US? | |
| This one is pertaining to the U.S. specifically. | |
| I think UK and Canada, they did like a pretty big study. | |
| I'm just not 100% specific with where the demographic is, but it's Instagram alone. | |
| So if Instagram is an app that operates amongst many countries, we can probably assume that it's not just in America that they're letting pornographic content come from. | |
| For sure. | |
| But I mean, I assume that the algorithm, the app, the local laws would be pertinent regarding. | |
| Nope. | |
| So in the United States, this study was released, I think, about six months ago. | |
| 73% of U.S. teens say that they've seen porn online, not through a porn site. | |
| 54% of them saw it by the age of 13, and 58% said that they were exposed accidentally through Instagram. | |
| So I can keep going. | |
| I mean, I literally, I have to say. | |
| No, I totally respect. | |
| I do respect your opinion. | |
| That's my opinion. | |
| And one thing I want to clarify, because I think this is where we have some disconnect, and I think this would be very helpful for the study. | |
| What is defined as pornographic material? | |
| Like, specifically, what is under this study, pornographic material is defined as XYZ. | |
| Lewed, suggestive, nude. | |
| So that goes to things like, you know, people dancing, you know, half-naked, people like her Instagram, where she's, you know, shaking her boobs through the counter. | |
| They just juggle when I won't. | |
| Quick question. | |
| Under that definition, what about like people dancing at Coach Sheller or a music festival who are often half naked? | |
| And I'm just trying to find out where that distinction is in the context of that. | |
| It's under the guidelines of like what makes it pornography is the intent to sell sex, sexual content, right? | |
| So you make your content on Instagram because that's what gives you, I think you have, I don't remember how much you have, like over 100,000, right? | |
| Like almost 200, yeah. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| So you have a pretty big following, and your goal is obviously to sell sex, and you're saying you're not hurting anybody. | |
| And I'm letting you know that verifiably you are because this type of content is coming across children's pages. | |
| Studies are showing this. | |
| They're coming out with more, just let me finish. | |
| They're coming out with more and more and more. | |
| And if you don't give a shit about how it affects guys, that's fine, but it affects girls as well. | |
| Then you say that. | |
| Studies are showing that women, young girls who consume this type of content, they're consuming it unconsensually. | |
| It's just popping up on their page. | |
| And they're dealing with higher rates of depression, anxiety, self-shame. | |
| It is hurting people. | |
| So to sit back and be like, well, pornography isn't harmful, it is harmful. | |
| It's really harmful. | |
| So I'm not here to shame you. | |
| I'm not here to call you a whore. | |
| I'm just saying that what you need to understand is that what you're doing is directly affecting people and Instagram has a huge part to play in it. | |
| And I just think you need to be aware of that. | |
| So you're not so like flawsy duh. | |
| It's not hurting anybody. | |
| It is. | |
| And women's content like yourself is being exposed to minors. | |
| And that's Instagram's fault, but you also contribute. | |
| I would just like to say that my content on Instagram is not porn. | |
| I'm like exactly who I am right now. | |
| Can we put her like her? | |
| Ryan's audience isn't going to subscribe to you, so it's fine. | |
| Oh, I don't know. | |
| Can we get a consensus on whether or not being half-naked, shaking your boobs sexually is considered sexual content? | |
| Are we going to debate this? | |
| Let's be honest. | |
| Can you be honest? | |
| I think it's very sexy. | |
| Who wouldn't want to see sexy? | |
| What I'm curious, though, is like not our opinion, right? | |
| Obviously, we all have a different threshold and idea. | |
| Like, well, I think porn is this. | |
| I think sexual content is that. | |
| I, for the sake of these discussions, because I'm curious about both of your perspectives, but we need to reach some mutual definition. | |
| I would like to interject because otherwise, we're just running around in circles. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| If you're saying, oh, you're showing porn, you're saying, oh, I'm not. | |
| Well, we have not come to a mutual agreement on what that standard is. | |
| And that's why we're really not getting anywhere in this conversation because we have not, we don't have a running definition that is not just based on our own emotions at this point. | |
| Right, for both of you. | |
| You can't be sitting up here being a hypocrite because I could see your titties through your shirt. | |
| Yeah, they're nice to. | |
| No, thank you. | |
| So, what are you talking about? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I did not mean to press the ball. | |
| Stop the cow. | |
| Correct. | |
| That was a slow shit. | |
| What is it, Brian? | |
| Stop the cow. | |
| You got it, Brian. | |
| I would like to point something out. | |
| That was a slow shirt under your shirt. | |
| Yeah, I would like to point something out. | |
| Of course. | |
| Why are you guys looking at her titties, by the way? | |
| I'm going to look at titties. | |
| I don't care. | |
| I'm looking at titties. | |
| I haven't looked at any titties this entire time. | |
| I'm a cleavage looker. | |
| Me too, girl. | |
| Really quick before I let you in. | |
| We have to do a little cheers to Kablask. | |
| So I want to dedicate this to the movie Braveheart 1995, I believe. | |
| Or, I don't know, mid-90s. | |
| Okay, cheers. | |
| For Scotland, cheers. | |
| Cheers. | |
| We just say cheers. | |
| Cheers. | |
| She's just a dialogue. | |
| You don't want to speak a different one. | |
| To Braveheart, I've never seen it. | |
| Cheers. | |
| You got a cheers. | |
| You've never seen Braveheart? | |
| To Scotland. | |
| Cheers to Scotland. | |
| Yay. | |
| Can I just point out that Braveheart, that man's not Scottish. | |
| So sad. | |
| Mel Gebson's like American. | |
| Oh, it's Melissa. | |
| He's an actor. | |
| I know, but we could have gotten a Scottish person. | |
| It was the 90s. | |
| I guess. | |
| It doesn't exist. | |
| Scotland didn't exist. | |
| Yeah, it doesn't exist right then. | |
| We're older. | |
| There's pubs in Scotland older than America. | |
| May I? | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| I guess. | |
| So we live in 2025, and we have professing Christians on this side of the table and this side of the table. | |
| Do you guys understand the times that we live in where other Christians have to fight tooth and nail for six hours to convince other Christians that porn is wrong? | |
| Yeah, but why'd you care? | |
| Respectfully. | |
| Oh, no, no, no. | |
| Because I fear God. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
| Because I fear God. | |
| Yeah, that's good that you fear God. | |
| I don't think we should fear God. | |
| I don't think He should be something to be feared. | |
| I think God's in the Bible says it's not fear, like it's in the sense of we revere him and respect him. | |
| Just as like Brian, he's the head of this show. | |
| He's the one who facilitates everything, and he gets to say the rules. | |
| So we have to revere and respect him. | |
| God, excuse me, ma'am. | |
| You must revere him. | |
| No, seriously, Brian, I respect you. | |
| I really do. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Because not in what generation do we have where women can have microphones to say all kinds of things? | |
| Whether it's what just keep going. | |
| It's happening. | |
| Go off, Queen. | |
| I know, and I'm giving her the floor. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Thank you. | |
| That's all I have to say. | |
| The fuck? | |
| All right. | |
| So. | |
| Thank you, Kablask. | |
| Yeah, I revere God. | |
| Yes, I do. | |
| I revere him. | |
| Those are the two men she revered. | |
| Those are the only two men. | |
| I feel like honored to I'm on that level. | |
| It's a big deal because I don't really voice my convictions all the time. | |
| Shut up. | |
| No way. | |
| Hey, be nice. | |
| Be nice. | |
| Come on. | |
| No, shut up. | |
| It's like an American. | |
| I was going to say that's the most likely. | |
| Wait, did this come through? | |
| Did this come through? | |
| Does it come through? | |
| Yeah. | |
| ...attitude when pressed. | |
| You can fight panelists, but you can't fight... | |
| Oh, it did come through. | |
| All right. | |
| All right, my bad. | |
| Go ahead, slepting up. | |
| We have some chat or some merch purchases, Nick. | |
| If you can pull those up coming through. | |
| Aaron. | |
| Thank you for looks like you bought a t-shirt. | |
| And then Paul, looks like you bought a t-shirt. | |
| That's coming in here in just a sec. | |
| Pull that up. | |
| Yep. | |
| Yo, Paul, thank you for the t-shirt purchase. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| And then Aaron, also thank you for the t-shirt. | |
| Shop.whatever.com if you want to get yourself some merch. | |
| We will give you guys shout-outs. | |
| Okay, let's get back on track here. | |
| We're doing the looks rating thing. | |
| Wait. | |
| Is that okay? | |
| No. | |
| Okay, so I gave very like good statistics on why porn is like harmful to children and how it's being exposed to children without their consent. | |
| And your response was, well, I have cleavage. | |
| I just want to know what that has to do with. | |
| Sorry, sorry. | |
| What does that actually have to do with my original point of porn being harmful to children? | |
| Oh, I just call it a cleavage. | |
| That's all. | |
| It's nice. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, so I don't really care. | |
| I wasn't here for what you was talking about. | |
| I don't care if you're a woman or not. | |
| If a man was sitting here talking about my titties, what I didn't like, it made me uncomfortable. | |
| Tell us your body. | |
| I wouldn't mind. | |
| I wouldn't mind a man talking about my cleavage. | |
| Well, I do, so. | |
| Well, that's you, babe. | |
| You cannot. | |
| Oh, you should cover it then. | |
| Yeah, see, the difference is, is you were talking earlier about how I think when you made the like poncho statement, you're like, well, they're just big and I can't hide them. | |
| The difference is, is that some women, yes, they are larger-breasted. | |
| She's a bad person. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Anyways, women with large breasts are like constantly getting sexualized for absolutely no fucking reason. | |
| No, you sexualize yourself. | |
| So I don't really want to hear the comparison. | |
| There's a big difference between and like intentionally putting your boobs on display. | |
| So that's my defense for my titties. | |
| I think I've already covered the fact that I didn't used to. | |
| Like I've always been sexualized. | |
| I've always had huge tests on my skills. | |
| Can you sing the Scottish national anthem for you? | |
| Yes, let's change the topic. | |
| Why does everyone love Scotland so much? | |
| I love this because it's beautiful. | |
| Scotland's the best country in the world for real. | |
| I would have to disagree. | |
| I love America. | |
| America's nice. | |
| America's nice. | |
| America. | |
| Fuck yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I'm so sorry that you're stressed, but I'm chill. | |
| I'm not stressed. | |
| I look at it. | |
| I really want to let us know. | |
| I'm trying to like, I'm just trying to get a little bit of a terrible thing. | |
| Well, you're going to love this next segment, Chloe, because we've put everybody through AI. | |
| It's everybody's favorite segment. | |
| Or wait, you're right. | |
| I have to ask the question, then we do the segment. | |
| You're right, Nick. | |
| You're right neck. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| So going around the table, the question I have to ask is, do you think you'll be better looking, better looking in 10 years' time? | |
| You're 18, better looking at 28? | |
| Better looking? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Not necessarily. | |
| You're 27, better looking at 37. | |
| Honestly, I actually think I might be. | |
| Okay, 20 years, 47? | |
| Maybe. | |
| 57, 30 years? | |
| It depends how you like technology, sorry, Teresa. | |
| Let's just exclude, yeah, naturally. | |
| Yeah, maybe not. | |
| Okay, and then were you better looking at 18 or better looking now? | |
| I think I'm better looking then. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're 40, better looking in 10 years' time? | |
| I think absolutely so because I'm going to aim to be healthier. | |
| Healthier? | |
| Okay, what about 20 years at 60? | |
| In 20 years from 60. | |
| Scoot the mic to the edge of the table. | |
| Like scoot it. | |
| Yeah, yeah, that works too. | |
| 20 years, 60? | |
| I guess it's relative, but you know, I just aim to continue to look better and to be healthier. | |
| And with that being said, yeah. | |
| Wait, what is going on? | |
| What? | |
| You're just, you're giving Chloe the stink eye. | |
| Oh, I'm just looking at her. | |
| That's all. | |
| You're just. | |
| She's trying to be intimidating, but she's not intimidating anybody. | |
| I'm not intimidating. | |
| I'll look at everybody. | |
| I've been looking at everybody. | |
| For 10 seconds, Chloe, she's just been dirty. | |
| Are you trying to like, what are you trying to fight me? | |
| Or like, what? | |
| Why would I try to fight you? | |
| Well, I don't know because where I'm from, when you stare at somebody intensively, it means you want to fight them. | |
| That ain't me. | |
| I'm not around. | |
| You're in Michigan. | |
| She's Canadian. | |
| The Canadians go down like that. | |
| Yeah, I hate you. | |
| You don't look. | |
| You look the wrong way to Canadian. | |
| Sorry, babe. | |
| I grew up with a lot of people. | |
| They will take horn and fi. | |
| I'm not messing up my face. | |
| All right, well, then stop staring at me then because that's how I'm taking it. | |
| So whether that's how you're meaning it, I don't know. | |
| Maybe she thinks you're cute. | |
| You go, put your hands on me, you go get provoked this. | |
| Are you bisexual? | |
| Okay, that's good. | |
| I'm just telling you, stay in your lane. | |
| Do you like women? | |
| Are you attracted to women? | |
| I like beautiful women. | |
| Okay, maybe Chloe. | |
| Maybe it's a compliment. | |
| Not my type. | |
| Oh. | |
| Who's coming? | |
| I'm not tight. | |
| Either. | |
| Okay, where were we? | |
| Better looking 20 years. | |
| You know, I hope so. | |
| I hope that I'm thriving. | |
| I'm healthy. | |
| My skin is glowing. | |
| My hair is growing. | |
| 30 years, 70. | |
| You know, I just hope that I'm able-bodied and strong and I'm able to move in the middle. | |
| But will you be better looking? | |
| Better looking. | |
| That's tough. | |
| Okay, 80, 40 years, 80. | |
| You know, I want to be older and wrinkly, but strong. | |
| I'm going to take that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| You're drinking some milk. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then you're 40, better looking 10 years ago at 30. | |
| Oh, I'm way better looking now. | |
| Better now 20 years ago, 20. | |
| Way better looking now. | |
| Better looking now. | |
| Okay, there you go. | |
| What about you? | |
| You're 26. | |
| Better looking in 10 years' time, 36. | |
| Probably not. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're 23, better looking in 10 years, 33. | |
| I hope I age gracefully, but I think I'm in my prime. | |
| I think I look the best right now. | |
| In her prime, okay. | |
| You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40. | |
| No, I don't think I'll look better at 40, but I think I look a lot better than I did when I was 20. | |
| Gotcha. | |
| Okay, so better looking now. | |
| You're 31, better looking in 10 years' time, 41. | |
| No, and I'm okay with that. | |
| And then were you better looking at 21 or now at 31? | |
| Probably now. | |
| Okay. | |
| Chloe, you're 28, better looking in 10 years' time, 38. | |
| I've seen my birth mom, so I'm going to go no. | |
| And then better looking at 18 or better looking? | |
| Definitely better looking now. | |
| All right, perfect. | |
| We've put all of you through AI advancement to see what you guys are going to look like when you're older, when you're older. | |
| I love this. | |
| And you're all going to be beautiful old ladies. | |
| Okay. | |
| We are ready to go. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They're saying it's 10 years from now when she's 28. | |
| Yeah, the far right, that's 10 years. | |
| That's 28. | |
| Honestly, it's not looking good. | |
| It's like senior year of college. | |
| Oh, geez. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know, the freshman, the stress, the drinking, the binge. | |
| You're at the number one party school. | |
| True. | |
| The binge drinking, it's not. | |
| It's going to catch up to me. | |
| I got to watch out. | |
| Yeah, you got to be careful. | |
| Well, you know, Ray Hayes. | |
| Red Hayes aged gracefully, too. | |
| Like, of all white people, y'all look good at OA. | |
| I think. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'll take it. | |
| Let's pull it up one more time just to rub it. | |
| No, just kidding. | |
| All right. | |
| There you go. | |
| Put it away. | |
| You look kind of like Patty Pimblet. | |
| I don't know who that is. | |
| The MMA fighter, Nick. | |
| Can you Google Patty Pimblett please? | |
| Like in the, not in the. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| No. | |
| You know what I mean, Chloe? | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| I don't. | |
| She looks a little bit. | |
| Chat, you know what I mean? | |
| Last 10 years? | |
| Brian, have you done one of you? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| He's coming. | |
| I would love to see that one. | |
| It's coming. | |
| You got it? | |
| I got it. | |
| Click on the first one, I guess. | |
| Oh, you're kidding. | |
| This guy. | |
| You're so rude. | |
| Oh, God. | |
| But he's a good-looking guy. | |
| That's a big cup of mine. | |
| I think. | |
| Click on the middle one there. | |
| I see what it is. | |
| I think he's funny. | |
| It's like my humble, straight opinion. | |
| Is it the bangs? | |
| How do we make these bigger? | |
| What's the best? | |
| The red hair and the bangs. | |
| But that's it. | |
| Nothing else. | |
| You can just do it right there. | |
| Right-click, open a new tab. | |
| But then show the picture afterwards, the AI one. | |
| At all. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Pull it. | |
| It's not the best photo of it. | |
| All right. | |
| It's not, yeah. | |
| No. | |
| Okay, whatever. | |
| Go into his room. | |
| Stop it. | |
| All right, next. | |
| Please don't. | |
| Oh. | |
| Girl. | |
| That's not bad, honey. | |
| No way. | |
| That's actually, it's not that bad. | |
| That is your future. | |
| Really cute. | |
| I'm so nervous. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| I think you have cookies in his future. | |
| I think. | |
| I'll find that when my lips still be cute. | |
| Next. | |
| Oh, gosh, I'm nervous. | |
| Oh, my lantern. | |
| That looks like my dad. | |
| What the heck? | |
| Wow. | |
| Nice. | |
| The nose and the oh. | |
| This AI program, too. | |
| That is like a very close replica to my dad. | |
| Is he bald? | |
| Yes. | |
| Whoever does these, can you baldify the baldify? | |
| Can you baldify? | |
| Put that in the dictionary. | |
| Not too much. | |
| Well, I'm going to see if it looks like her dad. | |
| It's the nose. | |
| Like, and the whole everywhere. | |
| And then the place where it wrinkled is like similar to my grandma. | |
| That program is crazy. | |
| Next. | |
| I look so cute. | |
| Me too. | |
| Baldify. | |
| Oh, sweet. | |
| I look like a blizzard. | |
| All right, there it is. | |
| Next. | |
| Wow. | |
| Okay. | |
| Not sure what's going on there with the hair. | |
| You got the Corolla de Ville thing. | |
| Right. | |
| Like a bullet-looking type thing going on. | |
| That's terrible. | |
| I think I'm aged better than that. | |
| But if that's AI. | |
| Into the mic. | |
| Into the mic. | |
| I think I'm aged better than that. | |
| But hey. | |
| Next. | |
| Beautiful. | |
| There we go. | |
| There we go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There it is. | |
| That's a really good picture. | |
| How do you feel about that? | |
| You feeling good? | |
| I mean, if that's 10 years, man, I'm in trouble. | |
| But dogies are in 10 years. | |
| Got to stay out of the sun. | |
| But I mean, I like to think that how I look is the least interesting thing about me. | |
| So aging really doesn't scare me because of everything else that I have going on in my life. | |
| All right. | |
| Next. | |
| Like that. | |
| Y'all get her so dirty. | |
| Hey, I'm okay with that. | |
| Because if that's going to be the standard and I do look better than that when I'm older, I'll be happy. | |
| All right. | |
| Next. | |
| I look like a man when I'm old. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's a sexy grandma right there. | |
| See that baby? | |
| That's what you got to look forward to. | |
| Next. | |
| I want to see you. | |
| How are you, man? | |
| There's Felicity. | |
| Striking as always. | |
| Next. | |
| Okay. | |
| There's a headshot. | |
| That's not fair. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The first one's AI, too. | |
| Yeah, that's not you. | |
| That's not even a real photo. | |
| That's AI. | |
| They just. | |
| That's you AI'd on top of the AI. | |
| Well, it's not even a base photo of me. | |
| You look like someone. | |
| Yeah, a little bit. | |
| Not a lot. | |
| If I was like a Renaissance painting and like inbred. | |
| You just need the color. | |
| I'm going to say it looks like a book cover headshot. | |
| All right. | |
| And then do we have gender? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Yeah, do a check on gender. | |
| All right. | |
| He's going to get that pulled up. | |
| We've gender swapped all of you. | |
| We've changed you into man. | |
| Why? | |
| I'd rather be old. | |
| So also, some people bought some t-shirts. | |
| Yo, Caleb, thank you for the t-shirt purchase. | |
| Gamer, thank you for the t-shirt. | |
| Purchase. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Thank you, gamer. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Did it come through? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Whatever. | |
| Cheers. | |
| Thank you for that. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Alright, and then we also, when are we getting to the questionnaire? | |
| Do you need more time, Nick, so get that all pulled up? | |
| He needs 10 seconds. | |
| All right, guys, like the video. | |
| If you're enjoying the stream, I'm going to go pee. | |
| Yeah, go for it. | |
| Like the video, guys, if you're enjoying the stream. | |
| And also, TTS is 100. | |
| TTS is a hundred, Reed is a, wait, sorry. | |
| TTS is 200. | |
| Read is 100. | |
| All right. | |
| Nick, can you just pull these up for me so I'm not doing it? | |
| Do you want to ask the question? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Actually, I'll just do it. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Would you date the male version of you? | |
| Wait, bring it back up when we see that. | |
| Yeah, that's the question. | |
| Would you date the male version of you? | |
| I think he's cute, but not my type. | |
| Not your type? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I like the middle. | |
| That's not bad. | |
| Middle's not bad. | |
| You don't like the beard then? | |
| That's cute. | |
| All right. | |
| Next. | |
| Oh my god, it looks like my brother. | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would not date my brother. | |
| That was a big no. | |
| Oh, that looks like, that's literally my body. | |
| You know what the eyeliner going on? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He looks like a little fruity to me. | |
| Yeah, he is lucky. | |
| Next. | |
| They all kind of are over there. | |
| Oh. | |
| would you date the male version of you no it no no No, I can't do that. | |
| No. | |
| He's not a bad looking guy. | |
| No, but it's just too, there's too, yeah. | |
| Too much. | |
| It's too much there, like too close for company. | |
| It'd be like fucking yourself. | |
| Basically. | |
| Yeah, that's a no for me. | |
| I don't know, whatever. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Next. | |
| Wow, you would date him. | |
| Yeah, probably. | |
| Would you rate him on a scale of one to ten? | |
| With the beard? | |
| A nine. | |
| Oh, interesting how that works. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, you would. | |
| You date him, though. | |
| Yeah. | |
| With the beard. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right, there you go. | |
| All right. | |
| Next. | |
| Oh. | |
| You look like Myron from I was thinking that too. | |
| I look Indian, but I would definitely fuck myself. | |
| Do you know who Myron is? | |
| No. | |
| Would you. | |
| Never mind. | |
| I'll get you guys linked up after the show. | |
| You should. | |
| I think I look better with the beard. | |
| Would you date yourself? | |
| Yeah, I date myself. | |
| He cute. | |
| He looks Indian, though. | |
| All right. | |
| Next. | |
| You know who that looks like? | |
| That looks like Ariana Grande's gay brother. | |
| Frankie. | |
| I don't think that male version of myself is straight. | |
| So I think. | |
| If he was straight, would you date him? | |
| No, because it would come out later on that he's not straight. | |
| Shoot. | |
| I'm setting myself up for failure. | |
| Did she just miss it? | |
| Are you not paying attention? | |
| Hello? | |
| No, I just don't want to be a guy. | |
| Would you date the male version of you? | |
| Oh, no. | |
| I would grill him, maybe. | |
| Speak into the mic, please. | |
| Sorry. | |
| No, but I'd probably grill him first. | |
| Grill him. | |
| Like cannibalism, like on a barbecue? | |
| No, get out of here. | |
| I mean, sorry, you're the host. | |
| Stay, I'll go. | |
| Remember, he's gone. | |
| I'm terrible at saves. | |
| What the hell? | |
| I don't know. | |
| You dropped some. | |
| I don't know if that was your hair. | |
| You dropped a bit of hair there. | |
| Oh, my bad. | |
| Okay, well. | |
| It was right there. | |
| Why would you have to do it? | |
| I was giving it to you. | |
| It's probably your hair. | |
| My hair is way too short, anyways. | |
| Next. | |
| Not bad. | |
| Normally it gives this guy terrible bangs. | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| I look weird. | |
| No, thank you. | |
| No, thank you. | |
| Next. | |
| We'll just do Chloe's while she's. | |
| All right, next. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| It's kind of hard. | |
| There you go, Chloe. | |
| I love smoking. | |
| He looks like scuffed Dane Cook. | |
| Someone's in the washing, so I have to wait a second, but I would definitely do me. | |
| There you go. | |
| Nice. | |
| Except it turned my piercing. | |
| You look like a weird club manager in Vancouver. | |
| I do like a sleazy one, you know? | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Like nightclub, nightclub owner/slash manager. | |
| Very early 2000s, Chloe. | |
| You also look like every wedding singer that I've ever met. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| Next. | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Where's the old ones? | |
| Boy, that is not you. | |
| I look again. | |
| I look like a Renaissance painting. | |
| That is not you. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| On the left? | |
| Completely different face shape. | |
| They should do a picture of young Brian. | |
| All right. | |
| Nick, if you scroll up, you'll find the other one previously. | |
| You know, you've seen it a million times, right, Nick? | |
| Also, I found that below one of that one, too. | |
| Yeah, pull those up. | |
| Pull those up. | |
| Also, somebody bought a hoodie from our merch shop. | |
| Someone just... | |
| What the hell? | |
| Why isn't it scuffed? | |
| Someone. | |
| It just says someone. | |
| And then Grant bought a t-shirt. | |
| That's shop.whatever.com if you want to get yourself your own. | |
| You have it, Nick? | |
| Shop.whatever.com. | |
| Get yourself some merch. | |
| Also, we'll pull up Twitch afterwards, okay? | |
| All right, pull it up. | |
| Pull it up. | |
| All right, there we go. | |
| Yeah, I would date. | |
| I would date the female me. | |
| I would date the female me. | |
| That don't look like you a little bit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I date her. | |
| And then is it bald? | |
| The bald. | |
| Yeah, let's do the balds. | |
| Is that your dad? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Lord, have mercy. | |
| That's what I would look like if I shaved my head. | |
| That is, I guess so. | |
| Very striking. | |
| Thanks. | |
| It's giving despicable me. | |
| Yeah, Richard. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Wait, what do you guys think about this? | |
| This is a totally random thought. | |
| What if everybody, men and women, had to just perpetually have a shaved head? | |
| And that was like the baseline. | |
| You couldn't grow your hair. | |
| You wouldn't have to do hair care, really. | |
| You would never have to worry about products. | |
| Would you guys take that trade? | |
| No. | |
| Does that include no beards as well? | |
| Well, the trade is like, obviously, if one singular woman had to have a shaved head, it would be more difficult for her to compete romantically because all the other people. | |
| Your face car got to really decline, though. | |
| You got to be bad. | |
| So then everybody's just a bald nub. | |
| Would you take that trade? | |
| If everybody had to? | |
| Everybody had to be just bald. | |
| I don't think so. | |
| I like the individuality. | |
| I like the colour. | |
| What about the utility, though? | |
| Yeah, because I feel like we would all look at the game. | |
| No, because she's not. | |
| Oh, the utility. | |
| You don't have to get haircuts. | |
| That's true, but I don't know. | |
| My hair, I feel like, is a staple of who I am. | |
| Wait, you grew up in New York? | |
| I did. | |
| I detected you were an accent. | |
| I detected it. | |
| You didn't. | |
| I grew up in Manhattan. | |
| There's no accent in Manhattan. | |
| Okay. | |
| I detected. | |
| Is it just for a whole day? | |
| No, for perpetuity, for life. | |
| Forever. | |
| Or in. | |
| Wait, oh, I have a question related to hair for the women. | |
| For a million dollars, a million dollars, would you shave your head just once? | |
| You could let it grow back. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | |
| Why not? | |
| I would do it for like $10. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| You do it for $10? | |
| No, not $10. | |
| How much would you do it for? | |
| A thousand? | |
| A thousand? | |
| A thousand dollars. | |
| Not right now. | |
| No. | |
| We have some. | |
| I would have to think about it for a long time. | |
| You do it. | |
| We could. | |
| No, not happening. | |
| If somebody donates. | |
| Don't donate it because it's not happening. | |
| Would you do it? | |
| We'll give you the money. | |
| No. | |
| You wouldn't do it for a year. | |
| Not here. | |
| There's more conditions. | |
| I'll have you back on the show and you can shave it. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| If you find me on the street again. | |
| For a million dollars, though. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You do it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Would you shave your head for a million dollars? | |
| You don't have to keep it that way. | |
| You can let it grow back. | |
| Not for a million. | |
| No. | |
| 1,000% because then it'll have me buy my farm, buy my ranch, and I won't have to worry about dealing with my hair on the farm and the ranch and I'll be ready to go. | |
| Per her farm. | |
| That's all I want. | |
| So that million dollars, bring it. | |
| Would you do it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Would you do it? | |
| Hair gonna grow back. | |
| I did that shit before. | |
| I'll do it again. | |
| Can you wear a wig? | |
| Can you wear a wig if you shaved it on now? | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| I'm fine with it. | |
| Oh, yes. | |
| You do it for me? | |
| What about you? | |
| Would you shave? | |
| No, I'll be poor, like I always am. | |
| Oh. | |
| Any reason? | |
| You just. | |
| I'm thankful for the hair that God has given me because when I was in high school, I did chop all of it off for certain reasons, like things that you said about me earlier. | |
| What did she say? | |
| That men just want to do things to me. | |
| Yeah, that wasn't about you. | |
| That was about me. | |
| Take it personal if you want to. | |
| But I'm grateful for every strand of hair that I have because there was a point where things were so bad in my life that I had just clumps of hair falling out. | |
| Was it a condition? | |
| I think it was a straight straight. | |
| Probably stress. | |
| Stress. | |
| Yeah, you're still stressed out. | |
| I'm sorry you went through that, though. | |
| That's really shit. | |
| Thank you. | |
| And I'm not trying to gain sympathy, but you know, it really happens. | |
| You wouldn't do it for a million, though? | |
| No. | |
| Because each one of my hairs on my head that God has numbered means more to me than all of the whole world. | |
| I have a quick question. | |
| Do you get haircuts? | |
| I only cut my own hair because I've had girls destroy my hair on purpose and I had to go back and tell the manager and then she gave me her card for free haircuts. | |
| What's that story? | |
| It goes a hard for us. | |
| Wait, is that the story Samson who had the long hair and he lost his power because he cut his hair? | |
| Yes. | |
| Is it like that? | |
| Is that what you're talking about? | |
| Like you lose your power because if you cut your hair or some shit? | |
| No. | |
| You wouldn't do it for a million? | |
| I wouldn't do it for all of the money in the world. | |
| Well, okay, hold on. | |
| God's going to have an issue with that. | |
| I transfer you some money. | |
| Would you take it? | |
| You could take all the money from all these atheists and Democrats and all these people. | |
| You had all the money in the world. | |
| You would literally have a fucking empire. | |
| You could create a Christian nation. | |
| Like the amount of money. | |
| You have all the money in the world. | |
| Well, I guess if you had all the money, it would kind of lose its. | |
| Okay, I'm overthinking this. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| Okay, you have half the money in the world. | |
| If I could gain everything this world has to offer, all the best things, I would decline. | |
| I wouldn't even want somebody to ask me that kind of question. | |
| I'm not saying that I don't want you guys to ask me that, but it's just there's no contest for me. | |
| I know how precious my soul is before the Lord. | |
| What's that have to do with your hair? | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Into the mic, into the mic. | |
| Don't be doing that. | |
| If you're presented with that opportunity, then God put that in your pathway. | |
| And then you can monetize that opportunity and turn around and bless others and create a place where people can come closer to God because God gave you that opportunity. | |
| He's like, Sarah, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| He's like, Sarah, I trust you. | |
| I see you. | |
| But this is what the terms are. | |
| I want you to bring other people to me. | |
| But I'm going to present this opportunity to you so you have the means to bring others closer to me. | |
| I have something to say about that. | |
| If people are only going to come to Christ because I shave my head, no, Hold on, let me please. | |
| Okay. | |
| Please let me finish. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Please let me finish. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Of course. | |
| So if people are that fickle that that's what it would take, they're not worthy of God. | |
| Hey, I can't respect that. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I can't respect this. | |
| She's standing on her business. | |
| But it's not a contravention of your Christian faith to accept a one-time payment of a million dollars to cut your hair any different. | |
| Do you have a job currently? | |
| No, not at the moment. | |
| Have you had a job at some point? | |
| Of course. | |
| Okay, what can you tell me what your previous job was? | |
| I've been the secretary of a church. | |
| I've worked at Chick-fil-A. | |
| Okay, Chick-fil-A. | |
| So somebody's offering you money to prepare food, take orders, clean the restaurant, et cetera. | |
| Why couldn't you apply your same logic to the situation where you're working and saying, well, I'm not, you know, God gave me a body, but I'm not willing to use my body to make money. | |
| I mean, do you see how that sounds? | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Hold on. | |
| When I say that, I'm not talking about using your body for sex work. | |
| I'm saying using your body for like acceptable forms of labor. | |
| In this case, like, would you donate hair to charity? | |
| That's a good question, actually. | |
| I'd probably grow it out and cut some of it off, but not the whole entire thing. | |
| Right. | |
| So I guess my confusion here is this idea: like, it wouldn't be some like slap in the face to your religious beliefs to shave your head for money. | |
| There's nothing, there's nothing in the Bible that precludes women from having shaved heads for free, I guess. | |
| Like a woman could be a Christian and have like, as far as I know, maybe there's some fucking, I don't know. | |
| Many of them. | |
| No matter if everybody in the whole entire world came in for me with a reason, my yes would still be yes and my no would still be no. | |
| Well, how about this? | |
| Is there anything that you would do? | |
| I'm trying to think here. | |
| And God is sufficient to save whom he will. | |
| He doesn't need me to try to bring everybody into the kingdom. | |
| I do have things like that. | |
| One thing to ask you really quick, and it's something that kind of struck me when you said it. | |
| You said if you need to be the vessel to bring people to God, then those people are not worthy of God. | |
| The gospel is enough. | |
| Nobody needs. | |
| Who cares about the? | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Who cares? | |
| Sorry, go ahead. | |
| Ask your question. | |
| I do. | |
| You guys look, I know I asked some religious questions at the beginning, but y'all keep bringing it to no offense, some boring shit. | |
| But go ahead, ask. | |
| Sorry, sorry. | |
| I'm being aware of that. | |
| I'm just saying because I, as I'm listening to everybody's opinion on everything, I'm gathering credibility of sources based on other opinions I have. | |
| I am, I respect you, but some things that you're saying, when people are not worthy of receiving God or the method that they receive God is going to be judged, that makes me questioning the rationale behind other things that you're saying. | |
| And that's not particularly at you, Sarah. | |
| That's just trying to gather information about, okay, if this is what people fundamentally believe, how I'm going to take their opinion and, you know, whether that changes my own stances on things and allows me to evolve. | |
| If I don't think it's a credible source, I'm not going to. | |
| Please, may I speak? | |
| If that's okay. | |
| If I was to put some money on the table right now for you to cut your hair, which I will, and I will donate, let's say, 50 grand to a church, my church. | |
| Did you cut your hair? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, I guess we know where you're saying. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| If somebody, are you pro-choice or pro-life? | |
| You. | |
| Abolitionist. | |
| Can you speak into the mic, please? | |
| Pardon me, abolitionist. | |
| Okay. | |
| What is that? | |
| Would you be willing to cut your hair to prevent an abortion? | |
| Good question. | |
| That's like trying to spread a net in the sight of a bird. | |
| I have no idea what that means. | |
| I think my hypothetical is completely valid. | |
| My hypothetical is completely valid. | |
| It's in the book of Proverbs. | |
| Okay, first off, I'm fine with your arguments are not going to be compelling to somebody who doesn't believe your faith. | |
| You've continually cited this entire show to theology and religion, but somebody can just simply demolish your entire argument by saying, I don't believe in what you believe in. | |
| I don't believe in your religion. | |
| So in this case, I don't even. | |
| Okay. | |
| How does that counter? | |
| You'll have to explain how you're citing to, I guess, a Bible verse rejects my hypothetical question. | |
| I'm sorry? | |
| What? | |
| There was a question. | |
| Hello? | |
| Can you repeat it again? | |
| Okay, I asked. | |
| The hypothetical was: you said you would not be willing to do certain things, you wouldn't do anything to cut your hair. | |
| I'm asking, would you cut your hair if you knew it would prevent an abortion? | |
| If they truly, if that actually happened and someone asked me or told me that if I cut my hair that it would prevent them from getting an abortion, I might. | |
| But you wouldn't if I gave you 50 grand right now for your church? | |
| The life of a child being aborted is more important than money for the church. | |
| Jesus can take care of his own church. | |
| Well, if I was to say, it seems like everybody really wants me to cut my hair. | |
| It just seems like I'm trying to understand your reasons. | |
| I guess, look, I've already said them. | |
| Christ is all I have, and that's why I keep citing the Bible. | |
| I don't have anything. | |
| Christ is the only thing that I have. | |
| And I wasn't raised in a Christian home. | |
| That's okay. | |
| Well, if you want to move on, you can. | |
| Just doesn't want to cut her hair, guys. | |
| Call me crazy. | |
| I don't think there's anything. | |
| There's no contravention of your faith for accepting money to have your hair cut. | |
| Why can't you just give money to the church without me cutting my hair? | |
| I did. | |
| It was a hypothetical question that went a little deeper. | |
| I would have done it, though, to be fair. | |
| The question was just for a million dollars, would you shave your hair off? | |
| And you said for religious reasons, you wouldn't do it. | |
| I was confused as to what those specific religious reasons are or would be. | |
| Okay, so putting aside religion, putting aside religion. | |
| No, I wouldn't do it. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| All right, we have Muddy Ninja here. | |
| Muddy Ninja $2,528 donated $200. | |
| Do it, Brian. | |
| This is Spartan. | |
| Okay, thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Thank you, Ninja. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| All right. | |
| Nick, pull up the merch. | |
| All right. | |
| Two people bought t-shirts. | |
| Gamer's Dream Haven thing for the t-shirt purchase. | |
| And then someone also purchased, pull up that thing. | |
| Shop.whatever.com. | |
| If you want to get your own, we'll give you a shout-out. | |
| And you guys can even include a little message, too. | |
| We have a message here from, oh man, I don't know if it's going to pull up. | |
| Final, let's see if it's going to pull. | |
| Annoying. | |
| Final boss arcade. | |
| Oh, that's my fiancé. | |
| Shout out my baby girl, Chloe. | |
| I see these narcotics trying to trigger you and gaslight. | |
| Maneuver around getting checked. | |
| Girl in the middle, chill. | |
| You look like Michael B. Jordan with a wig, lol. | |
| Michael B. Jordan's still fine. | |
| I don't take any offense to you. | |
| She's taking it as a compliment. | |
| Yeah, I am. | |
| Donate more money to talk shit. | |
| Brian, call her something else. | |
| You paying to talk shit. | |
| Stand on your business, too. | |
| I'm standing on my business. | |
| Hey, donate some more so you can talk to me. | |
| Standing on my business. | |
| Ugly bitch. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| That's my fiancé. | |
| I don't give a fuck. | |
| Free speech. | |
| Your fiancé just called you. | |
| It's like, are you saying? | |
| You can't give it that. | |
| Tit for tat. | |
| Yeah, you cannot like be pets. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Did you call her a name? | |
| No, you can't. | |
| I think he was trying to, like, Michael B. Jordan. | |
| He said she looks like a man. | |
| A handsome man. | |
| Yes, a handsome man, but looks like a man. | |
| I don't know how that goes. | |
| And like, why don't you pull up a petcher of him? | |
| What's that? | |
| Let's pull up a petcher of him. | |
| Let's see him. | |
| Oh, okay, girl. | |
| Do you know how to man? | |
| He's got a nice beard. | |
| That's a sexy man, right? | |
| What's the lady behind that beard? | |
| Statue. | |
| Okay. | |
| Did we finish up everything, Nick, with the pull-ups? | |
| Pull-ups. | |
| Thanks, bitch. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Calm down. | |
| Calm down, lady. | |
| Nobody's going to be able to do that. | |
| Calm down, Texas. | |
| Calm down, Texas. | |
| Houston, Texas. | |
| Get that right. | |
| Do you know what they say about Houston? | |
| What they say. | |
| What's that sports comment? | |
| Houston, we have a problem. | |
| Ah, too late. | |
| I was trying to find you. | |
| No, you're right. | |
| I'm failing in my duties here. | |
| Next. | |
| Are you okay? | |
| I'm good. | |
| I think that liquor get into me. | |
| I'm a little hype. | |
| You had like this much. | |
| You gotta keep up, though. | |
| I'm on the empty stomach. | |
| You had this much. | |
| You gonna get dropped with me or what? | |
| I had like a million sips. | |
| You gotta get lit with me. | |
| The champagne. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| Okay. | |
| We're gonna get, you know, the, what's it called? Questionnaire. | |
| What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? | |
| Starting with you. | |
| Minimum yearly income. | |
| Minimum yearly income to be for your future husband. | |
| So I would say this is if I have an income too, right? | |
| Sure. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| Maybe like $60,000. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Just enough to cover rent. | |
| I don't care. | |
| I can cover the rest. | |
| You date a guy who works at McDonald's in Scotland. | |
| Do they have cars? | |
| Did they have cars in Scotland? | |
| You guys still use horses here. | |
| Horses, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay, so you'll date a guy who works at McDonald's. | |
| As long as he pays rent. | |
| Yeah, I don't care. | |
| What about you? | |
| Here in California, probably close to five. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Here, scoot your mic to the very edge of the table. | |
| Chloe, can you do it too? | |
| Scoot your mic to the very edge of the table, and then don't leave them there. | |
| Just leave them there. | |
| They're in the position where they need to be in. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Okay, $500,000. | |
| Here in California, yes. | |
| Anywhere else, $350,000 would probably be suffice. | |
| And that's if I'm, you know, I'm a stay-at-home wife. | |
| I'm taking care of the family, the kids, and I'm just taking care of the home. | |
| You have a kid, right? | |
| I do. | |
| One kid? | |
| I have one. | |
| Okay. | |
| How old is the kid? | |
| He's 21. | |
| However, with him being on the spectrum, that's something that's going to be a responsibility for okay. | |
| He's got severe autism. | |
| It's not severe, however. | |
| He is high-functioning. | |
| However, I'll be close by for. | |
| And also, I take care of my mom as well. | |
| So if I, you know, settle down and get married, he's going to. | |
| Do you live with him? | |
| No, he goes to school along the central coast. | |
| I see. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| $500,000 a year. | |
| What about you? | |
| Probably about 80 grand. | |
| 80,000? | |
| What do you guys have in Scotland? | |
| Pounds? | |
| Pens. | |
| Yeah, pounds. | |
| It's pounds. | |
| She's from England. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| You're the Scottish person, you're the... English, yeah. | |
| English. | |
| What do you think about what's happened in England? | |
| You know, you guys are kind of losing your country a little bit. | |
| Did you participate in the protests? | |
| I don't. | |
| Please, no. | |
| No? | |
| Don't want to talk about it. | |
| No, just don't listen to the news. | |
| It's not true. | |
| I don't like it. | |
| 80,000. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Texas? | |
| I'm not really materialistic, but I do like to travel, and that's expensive. | |
| So I would say like at least $200,000 because my goal is to see at least two countries a year. | |
| So that's pretty expensive. | |
| So $200,000 to be stable and travel. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I do have a partner right now, but if I was single at the moment, at my current age, I would not date somebody making less than $100,000 with certain circumstances. | |
| Like they had finished school or they quit their job because they were starting a business or they had just come back from the Peace Corps. | |
| So there's like exceptions, but you had ridden $100,000. | |
| Yes, that's what I said. | |
| about you? | |
| We're on the question about how much minimum yearly income to be your future husband. | |
| I know this is going to sound really stupid to most people, but I've never really thought about what percentage or what ballpark I would want my husband to make. | |
| As long as we have food, rainment, and shelter, and a Bible, I'm content with that. | |
| And if he makes a lot of money, so be it. | |
| If he doesn't, so be it. | |
| That doesn't sound stupid. | |
| What is raiment? | |
| Clothes. | |
| Raiment. | |
| You know, not naked? | |
| I've never heard this term. | |
| Has anybody heard that term? | |
| What is it? | |
| Raiment? | |
| R-A-I-M-L-E-N-T? | |
| That is clothes. | |
| I'm half Filipino and I thought you looked Asian. | |
| Yeah, I get it. | |
| People always think I'm Mexican. | |
| But it's probably a Spanish in me. | |
| Mexican Asian. | |
| But my family comes from the slums of the Philippines. | |
| So I guess I don't really see money the way that other people do. | |
| Well, I just offered you 50 grand. | |
| You said no. | |
| Is raiment like Tagalog or something? | |
| No, it's English. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Chloe, what about you? | |
| Minimum yearly income to be your future husband. | |
| I don't really have a minimum. | |
| I think as long as there's effort being put in, I agree with what you said, whether you're, you know, even if you're in school or something, as long as you want to do something, I don't really care. | |
| Okay. | |
| So it was $500,000 for you. | |
| Here in California. | |
| And then $200,000 for you. | |
| Houses are cheap at Texas. | |
| Have you had way more? | |
| Wait, did your ex pay you child support for your kid? | |
| Actually, my son's father is dead. | |
| Oh my God. | |
| I'm so sorry. | |
| Like dead. | |
| Not dead to me, actually, physically dead. | |
| Like before the kid was born? | |
| That's probably another story for another time, but long story short, I think my son was probably like four years old. | |
| And we escaped before, I escaped before he was born. | |
| And when he found me on his way to come, when he found where I was at, he died in a car accident. | |
| Damn. | |
| Gotta love that. | |
| Jesus. | |
| It didn't sound like it was a good situation. | |
| All right. | |
| How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? | |
| I'm 5'8, and minimum height is probably 5'8. | |
| 5'8? | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| 4'11 and probably like 5'11. | |
| It's okay. | |
| You're 4'11 guy has to be 5'11. | |
| What about you? | |
| 5'4 and 5'11. | |
| All right, what about you? | |
| I'm 5'2. | |
| I'm probably 5'5. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm 5'8, and I don't mind a short king. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I am 5'4, and I would say 5'10. | |
| But your partner is how tall? | |
| 6'2. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm 5'7 and a half. | |
| Anything that's bigger than me, just because since I'm a bigger girl, I want to feel small. | |
| I don't want to feel bigger than him. | |
| Wait, when you say bigger, you're talking about height? | |
| Or like, does he have to be bigger than you? | |
| Any horizontally? | |
| Generally, in stature. | |
| What? | |
| She said she wants a guy bigger. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| I'm asking the top. | |
| I just love the polite way you put it. | |
| That's fair game. | |
| Okay, I like broad shoulders, I guess, then. | |
| Does that help? | |
| Like a big bag. | |
| Broad shoulder. | |
| No, like a marketing. | |
| Are we talking here? | |
| Let's get Sarah a Viking. | |
| Go to Scotland, girl. | |
| They're all big. | |
| We are big. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| Viking's pretty cool. | |
| All right. | |
| Chloe, what about you? | |
| Any height requirements? | |
| No, I'm 5'9. | |
| I've dated taller, shorter. | |
| I don't discriminate. | |
| All right, let me narrow in here on our good friend. | |
| Let me, what did you write? | |
| You wrote, you said 5'11? | |
| The guy has to be 5'11? | |
| Minimum, yeah. | |
| And he has to make $500,000 a year. | |
| In California, you know, when you're taking care of two households, it's like when you commit to me, you're also committing to what I come with. | |
| How big? | |
| Okay, you really want that answer? | |
| I don't like them big. | |
| I can get big ones. | |
| Because you used to do porn, so I feel like if you used to do porn, I feel like you're kind of. | |
| They're overrated. | |
| Uh-uh. | |
| You don't like the LBBC? | |
| I 100% agree with you. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, anyways. | |
| I feel, look, Brittany, I love you. | |
| You're a nice gal. | |
| God give you a little, I don't know. | |
| Go for 40. | |
| Sex worker, ex-sex worker, ex-porn star. | |
| Single mom. | |
| To be fair, your kid's older or whatever, so I don't know. | |
| $500,000. | |
| You want a guy to make $500,000 a year and he's got to be 5'11,000? | |
| I think you gotta, you know, in the state of California, in California terms, and when you're committing to me, like I said, you're committing to taking care of two households. | |
| Because my mother, you know, so it's one of those things, you know. | |
| And if I'm the one at home, I'm taking care of the home front. | |
| I'm his piece. | |
| I cook. | |
| I clean. | |
| I take care of everything and anything that he comes with. | |
| So, say if he has parents, then I'm also taking on that responsibility and those traditional roles. | |
| So, and like I said, the cost of living here in California is core. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, yes, it's very expensive in California, but $500,000, that's a 1% man. | |
| Then you want him to be 5'11. | |
| That chips away even further. | |
| 500 before taxes. | |
| That's even worse. | |
| I think it's fair, especially in California. | |
| Before, not after. | |
| I think it's fair what she's asking for, especially if she can. | |
| It's an equal amount of give and take. | |
| Like, you sound like you could be a good woman, you could have sex, sexually satisfy your man, take care of him, do all of that. | |
| And I think that's fair to ask for when you know you're the type of woman that you're looking for in a man. | |
| What's the age range of a guy you're willing to date? | |
| Um, I definitely nothing under the age of probably 37. | |
| Okay, so 37-2 older 50? | |
| Easily. | |
| Will you date a 60-year-old, 70-year-old? | |
| I don't know if I would have a connection with a 70-year-old. | |
| 50 is 50-year cutoff. | |
| I mean, that's only 10 years older than me. | |
| Don't move the mic. | |
| Just put it to the edge. | |
| I mean, 50 is only 10 years older than me. | |
| So, 55. | |
| What's the cutoff? | |
| 55? | |
| Let's say, yeah, 57. | |
| 57. | |
| All right. | |
| That's probably the cutoff, but that comes with a lot of things they have to have, like, common interests as far as a healthy lifestyle, like want to thrive to be healthier, and you know, what they put in their body, you know, versus just it slothing around. | |
| I guess, look, my again, just my issue here is: so, okay, here's what you want: $500,000 a year, 5'11. | |
| And there's probably other things you care about too. | |
| Like, he can't be a piece of shit. | |
| He has to obviously like you back. | |
| He has to be like probably somewhat pleasant, whatever. | |
| 100%. | |
| I definitely have a few things that are absolute no-go's for me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like, I will never, ever in my life. | |
| Date a white guy? | |
| Date a liberal again. | |
| Oh, liberal. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I can't do it. | |
| Do liberals make good money? | |
| I don't know. | |
| You're probably fine. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| Some of them do. | |
| Anyways. | |
| Wait, you won't date a liberal. | |
| Oh, no, that puts you in more trouble, though. | |
| I think. | |
| Because, like, I feel like a liberal guy might be more forgiving of the sex work. | |
| Well, when I meet my person, all of that's done. | |
| That's out the window. | |
| That is no longer a part of my life. | |
| Well, I mean, it's always going to be attached to me. | |
| Yes, 100%. | |
| However, who I am moving forward, who I am as a wife, who I am as if we have children is completely separate from. | |
| Have children? | |
| I would consider. | |
| You want more kids? | |
| I would love to have another child. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I'm giving myself maybe like about two years. | |
| Yeah, you got, you got to get a lot. | |
| I have some time. | |
| You know. | |
| So, but hold on. | |
| But men care about a woman's past. | |
| 100%. | |
| Especially a conservative guy. | |
| Oh, 1,000% they do. | |
| So that could be a bit of a problem. | |
| Well, then I'm just going to keep praying on it and waiting for it because it'll come. | |
| Like I said, I can never, I can never, ever in my life again. | |
| And no offense to anybody at this table, but I can't. | |
| You can offend. | |
| It's okay. | |
| I can't do it. | |
| I absolutely cannot do it. | |
| Can't do what? | |
| Data liberal. | |
| Data liberal ever again. | |
| I'm going to ask why. | |
| Like, that might be a story for another time. | |
| Is it the pegging? | |
| Like, they want to be pegged? | |
| That's what it is, right? | |
| It's not that, but it's not too far-fetched from the comment. | |
| It's the lack of masculinity. | |
| It's the, they want you to hold their, not literally and actually, but they, you know, figuratively want you to hold their skirt while they curtsy. | |
| And it's like this, this equal opportunity thing, but I still want you to embody all these feminine traits, but I still also want you to do da-da-da-da-da. | |
| Or there's just like certain things that I just can't get. | |
| Like I can't wrap my head around and be okay with it, you know? | |
| For an example, if we were to have more children, there's no way in hell I'm going to marry somebody who's going to be okay with filling them up with vaccines. | |
| Oh, can I? | |
| Just, I'm. | |
| I'm not vaccinated. | |
| My parents are on Evax, okay? | |
| And I am the sickest person you'll ever meet. | |
| I'm sick. | |
| All the time. | |
| And I don't have a choice to be Auntie Vax or like, I don't have any vaccinations. | |
| Would you look at that? | |
| A TTS just came through. | |
| Donated $200 for Chair 3, the former porn star. | |
| Best I got is $50 and six-piece McNuggets for you. | |
| Bonus style humble, take it or leave it, Daddy. | |
| Not even naughty. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Oh, he's that it's from Daddy. | |
| He's saying best he can do is $50 and six-piece at McDonald's. | |
| Take it or leave it. | |
| Take him up. | |
| And in the words of the gentleman in Hangover, tootle him, motherfucker. | |
| He's got $200 to be dropping on that comment. | |
| I know. | |
| More than two dollars, I think. | |
| Even if you're a billionaire, you should take a girl first couple days. | |
| Act as broke as you can. | |
| McDonald's. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| McDonald's. | |
| Maybe an American. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Well, maybe even the first date, something a little bit shorter because you don't know if that first date you're going to want to escape. | |
| You're right. | |
| I am all for that. | |
| That might be a little too long. | |
| I'm all, listen, I am all for a coffee date for that first date because that gives you enough time to kind of pick up on the energy, but then to be like, I'm good. | |
| And then following up with the, you know, can we get you, you know, look, I'm just, I'm trying to help you out here. | |
| You know, I'm trying to help you. | |
| I'm here for it. | |
| Can we get you down? | |
| Let's do a little negotiation. | |
| Can we get you down to five, six, and $70,000 a year as your minimums? | |
| $70,000 a year in the state of California. | |
| Into the mic. | |
| $70,000 a year in the state of California. | |
| Yes. | |
| In Los Angeles, take after taxes. | |
| Still, $70,000 a year, the state of California. | |
| Look, you guys can have a very good time. | |
| I don't think nobody should be dealing with somebody that can't maintain her. | |
| You guys will be fine. | |
| Just live in Resida. | |
| You'll be fine. | |
| She's asking for somebody that can maintain her. | |
| So I think that's pretty cool. | |
| I would be. | |
| It's beautiful this time of year. | |
| The SFV. | |
| San Fernando Valley. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Along with, you know, like the Inland Empire. | |
| Bakersfield. | |
| Bakersfield, absolutely. | |
| They send you to Bakersfield. | |
| But actually, though, in Bakersfield, there is parts of it that are absolutely gorgeous. | |
| But let's talk about the stereotype of Bakersfield, which is the devil's armpit. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And, oh, oh, Lord. | |
| But, you know, do you think we could get you? | |
| $375, $375. | |
| No, Absolutely not. | |
| Well, it's just, it's like, you got to take care of, like, there's two households I want. | |
| And like I said, in California. | |
| You know, outside of California? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did I sell like that? | |
| You did. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| There's a little bit of a draw there. | |
| Outside of California, it's different, you know? | |
| It's true. | |
| And it's like, then it's like in the same breath, it's like, if I come with, you know, my farm, my ranch, and I have everything that I need to raise and grow myself. | |
| You sure you want the homestead? | |
| That's just a lot of work. | |
| Oh, I love it. | |
| My father retired from the entertainment business and bought a home and some land in Kentucky in 98. | |
| And he's the healthiest man I know. | |
| And that's all he does is he farms. | |
| Expensive, though. | |
| Not once you get it going. | |
| Once you get it going, you don't need much. | |
| Where are you going to go? | |
| Idaho? | |
| Actually, there are some places in Idaho that are absolutely beautiful right way north. | |
| Here's what we're going to do. | |
| We're going to get you Idaho $80,000, 5'8. | |
| Final offer. | |
| Take it or leave it. | |
| Can I go down an inch and up about 20? | |
| You wanted 5'7 ⁇ , and you want to get to what? | |
| It's not how far on a good day. | |
| You want 100K? | |
| If I had to really calm down, but I'm going to be careful what I speak and what I let leave. | |
| I can do 90,000 and half an inch. | |
| Final offer. | |
| Final offer for the next 24 hours. | |
| I'll take it. | |
| Height, height. | |
| Height, height. | |
| Wait a minute. | |
| Daddy don't. | |
| Would you rather cross? | |
| Can you guys mute that back there? | |
| Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike, starting with you? | |
| Oh, God. | |
| Oh, wait, sorry, one thing before? | |
| Kablask donated $200. | |
| 1% guy? | |
| $400? | |
| Illusion calculator says she is hoping for a top 1% guy. | |
| Better drop 1-0 and consider a guy making 50K. | |
| Top 1% guy can get a 22-year-old. | |
| You want Kablask, are you wanting to date her? | |
| Would I? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Kablask. | |
| Is Kablaska liberal? | |
| 40. | |
| Single mom, ex-porn star, kid. | |
| Lives with mom. | |
| Yeah, so up north, because he goes to school up north in a smaller town. | |
| So not LA is not for a certain caliber of children. | |
| You do want a 1% guy. | |
| Are you a 1% woman? | |
| Yes. | |
| I could absolutely be that for the right person and make changes and alter certain things. | |
| Like I said, my past is going to always be my past. | |
| That will never leave. | |
| But the woman I'm becoming and the woman I am for the right man has nothing to do in how I am for him and the family that he wants to create and the home that he yearns for. | |
| 5'5, $40,000 a year, final offer. | |
| We already shook up the deal. | |
| We did a verbal deal shape. | |
| I'm reneging on the. | |
| Okay. | |
| Would you rather cross paths with a random bear or random man on a hike? | |
| By random bear, is that opposed to a bear that I know? | |
| Random bear. | |
| So you don't know either of these people. | |
| Right. | |
| I think a man. | |
| Okay, what do you pick? | |
| It depends how old the man is. | |
| He's an average. | |
| Maybe a bear. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| A man. | |
| Okay. | |
| I guess it depends on the circumstances. | |
| Okay. | |
| So. | |
| What circumstances would you want to run into a bear? | |
| I mean, it depends if the man gives me like. | |
| Sorry. | |
| It depends if the man is giving me a bit of a weird vibe. | |
| It's a random. | |
| It's a random. | |
| Oh, well about it. | |
| He could give a weird vibe. | |
| You don't get to inspect the energy. | |
| It's either popping. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you, Texas? | |
| I think anybody that picks a bear is just trying to be provocative. | |
| Like, I would rather run into a man any day than a bear. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I say this every time I'm asked this question. | |
| I don't care. | |
| I would never go hiking alone, unarmed anyway. | |
| So it doesn't work. | |
| Unless you're an American girl right there. | |
| But if you were on a hike And you had to pick one, which would you pick? | |
| Oh, I mean, the man. | |
| I would feel terrible if I had to shoot a bear. | |
| Right. | |
| Same. | |
| That was such a good answer. | |
| All right. | |
| You want to be a man? | |
| You mean? | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| Sarah. | |
| I wrote that I would take on both as long as it's on a woman scorned. | |
| Huh? | |
| You wrote feminist here, but okay. | |
| Interchangeable. | |
| So if you had to pick one, though. | |
| Hmm. | |
| I don't know. | |
| If you had to pick. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm just going to skip. | |
| Chloe, what about you? | |
| You had your chance. | |
| You dug your own grave, now lay in it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Don't get to participate in this really important segment. | |
| Chloe, what'd you pick? | |
| Yeah, obviously a man. | |
| All right, there's nothing really, nobody providing anything for me to push back on. | |
| So, questionnaire here, or questionnaire. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Hmm. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I guess question: who here considers themselves a feminist? | |
| Do you consider yourself a feminist? | |
| I do. | |
| You do? | |
| Okay. | |
| Feminist? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Feminist? | |
| Feminist? | |
| It depends on the definition of feminism. | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Chloe, are you a feminist, Chloe? | |
| I'm a basic level. | |
| I think I would fight for a woman's rights just as much as a man's, but am I, if you, in my textbook definition of what feminism is today? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| All right. | |
| Like, you're looking at fourth wave current feminism and how, like, what that movement stands for today. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Right? | |
| Something like that. | |
| Really quick, I wanted to do a dating question. | |
| We're going to come back to the feminism. | |
| I might have stepped away when you were talking about this. | |
| You're single, correct? | |
| Yes. | |
| Everybody here is single except for you? | |
| I'm not single. | |
| And Chloe. | |
| Okay. | |
| Have you ever had a boyfriend? | |
| Not exactly. | |
| Do you currently have a guy in the picture? | |
| No. | |
| Have you ever had a roster? | |
| A roster? | |
| Yeah. | |
| No. | |
| Just like. | |
| No, I have never had a roster. | |
| Okay. | |
| You have had a boyfriend? | |
| Or? | |
| No. | |
| What's the longest period of time you've dated a guy? | |
| A couple months. | |
| A couple months. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you've been single for how long? | |
| Well, if I've never had a boyfriend, I guess like 18 years. | |
| Well, since the last time you were like involved romantically at the last year, one year. | |
| Okay. | |
| Have you? | |
| When did you move here? | |
| Just like a couple days ago? | |
| To Santa Barbara? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you just got here. | |
| Any prospects yet? | |
| No. | |
| Nothing? | |
| Hardly left the dorm. | |
| This is like the first thing I've done. | |
| Dating apps, anything like that? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Have you met any guys at the dorms? | |
| No, not really. | |
| I literally moved in like yesterday. | |
| And when does school start? | |
| Is it this week? | |
| The 25th. | |
| The 25th, okay. | |
| Have they had like orientation type stuff where they're like. | |
| Yeah, there were multiple orientation periods during the summer, and you can pick which one to go to. | |
| Mine was in like early July. | |
| Do they do like tutorials like anything related to dating? | |
| Or not dating, but like orientation? | |
| For comments. | |
| Like consent. | |
| Like anything around like skills, maybe? | |
| Yeah, I would, yeah, I think so. | |
| Like, did you have like a consent tutorial where they're like. | |
| God, I can't even remember. | |
| I mean, how to do it yet, but there's like a training thing that you have to do at UCSV. | |
| It's called sharp. | |
| It's insane. | |
| We can do it. | |
| I think I still haven't done that, but it's on just the web, the internet. | |
| You can just find the. | |
| Yeah, maybe you and I can figure out another time. | |
| Yeah, yeah, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I was just curious about that. | |
| But it sounds like you haven't done anything. | |
| Well, they talk about resources and stuff, but they don't give you a tutorial on consent. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Maybe they haven't done it yet. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've heard something where you do have to, I don't know, read a piece. | |
| Like training or something. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| So you're a feminist. | |
| Yes, I am. | |
| When you describe yourself as a feminist, what do you mean? | |
| I believe the feminism movement is centered around empowering women and making sure that women are treated equally to men. | |
| Okay. | |
| And do you feel like women are not treated equally? | |
| Of course. | |
| How so? | |
| In many ways, I feel like women are respected less than men. | |
| I feel like women are obviously paid less than men. | |
| We could talk about the wage gap or whatever, but that's beating a dead horse. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| How would it be beating a dead horse? | |
| Well, I just feel like that's the argument that people bring up in every conversation. | |
| Are there other things? | |
| Yeah, again, I feel like women are respected less than men. | |
| I feel like women are sexualized more than men. | |
| I feel like women are, I don't know, like put in positions more often where they have to fight for their rights more than men do. | |
| Which rights are those? | |
| Pick one, all of them. | |
| Which one? | |
| I mean, like, speaking their mind, being able to like. | |
| Well, the First Amendment freedom of speech is not gender specific. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| You're right. | |
| But I guess maybe less of a right in the legislative sense, like you were said before, but more like the right to be listened to and respected. | |
| Wait, you said the right to speak your mind. | |
| Do you genuinely think it's the case that women are like somehow prohibited by the social media? | |
| That's not what I meant. | |
| Not speak your mind. | |
| More like, I feel like when women do speak their mind, they're listened to less and held to a non-Do you think this is reflected in social media? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Well, for example, I would make the argument that there's like sorry guys, phone going off. | |
| I'd say that there's way more women who are participating in social media and like propagating their feelings and opinions. | |
| Like I'd say, I don't know what the precise number is. | |
| I can cite to some study, but women are far more involved creating and posting on social media. | |
| While men also do this too, it's like a much smaller proportion of men who engage on social media. | |
| You look at TikTok, Instagram, et cetera. | |
| It's overwhelmingly women who sort of dominate on these platforms. | |
| And if you like, whether it's like making silly dance videos or like spreading rhetoric or whatever, you see far more women engaging in that sort of thing without any sort of reprisal or like limitation on their speech, either platform-wise or by the government. | |
| Well, sure, they're engaging in it, but like I said, sorry, I revised what I said before. | |
| Of course, everybody has free speech, whatever, but I don't feel like women are taken as seriously. | |
| By who? | |
| Everyone. | |
| Even other women. | |
| Even women, yeah. | |
| Women take women less seriously? | |
| I believe so. | |
| What if I told you there was a study that indicated that actually women have an in-group bias? | |
| They have a strong in-group bias for other women. | |
| And then men actually have an out-group bias, slight out-group bias for women. | |
| Yeah, well, I think that makes sense, but that doesn't necessarily, I mean, what do you mean by in-group bias? | |
| Just who you feel more comfortable with? | |
| I mean, I know what in-group bias means. | |
| Yeah, it could be. | |
| So an in-group bias would basically be like, if you're a woman, your in-group is women. | |
| If you're a man, your out-group would be women. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| So if you have an in-group bias, you have a bias towards your same, you know, whether it could be, it could be race, it could be gender, it could be whatever. | |
| It could be your political affiliation. | |
| So women have an in-group bias towards other women, and then men have an slight out-group bias. | |
| I know what in-group bias and out-group bias mean. | |
| I mean, what is the bias? | |
| Like, what are they biased? | |
| Oh, sure. | |
| It could manifest in all sorts of ways. | |
| Like, women will have a greater tendency to. | |
| You seem to make the claim that even other women don't show respect to women. | |
| I would make the counterclaim that I actually think women tend to show more respect to other women and have less respect towards men. | |
| So that would be like an example of an in-group bias that women are going to value the words of other women over the words of other men. | |
| Or the statistic that women will most often excuse the same behavior they wouldn't excuse from men just because a woman's doing it. | |
| Sure. | |
| Well, I think that comes from a, and I feel like, you know, every conversation about feminism turns back to this eventually, but I feel like the in-group bias, just from my own personal experience and perception of other women, comes from the idea of safety and women feel more safe around other women. | |
| And so the behavior, like an example of a behavior, like what do you, what do you mean, like a behavior that they would excuse? | |
| I don't think you're wrong. | |
| I just want to. | |
| Oh, that's a good question. | |
| Let me think of a good example. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It's tough to put an example on it. | |
| I think that we will see, okay, you know, for example, you know, women will get together at like Brunch or something and they'll participate in the, you know, maybe the culture of like shitting on your husband and like complaining about your husband and stuff. | |
| Whereas if men were sitting at the same table debating how shitty their wives were, like, that wouldn't necessarily be accepted. | |
| But as women, we tend to let each other pass on certain toxic behaviors just because we're women. | |
| I mean, it can really be anything. | |
| It can be a lot of fun. | |
| Well, I think that's just some like sexuality. | |
| I think that's just in-group bias in general, where you like, men do the same thing for them. | |
| I'm sure that if men heard a bunch of women shitting on husbands, they would be upset. | |
| But I know for a fact that men get together and shit on their wives and girlfriends. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, we have a message here from Lask. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Not into dating children. | |
| I tried feminism is ruining the USA. | |
| What's the panel's thoughts on the shift towards the whole passport bro movement? | |
| Southeast Asia women are where it's sat. | |
| Anyone have any thoughts on the passport bro? | |
| Could you explain? | |
| I actually have some thoughts on this. | |
| I've worked on cruise ships for a few years and we see a lot of that where either American or European men are seeking basically what a passport bro is they obtain a passport to for the purpose of going and seeking a wife or girlfriend in another country. | |
| In a lot of these countries there are far less opportunities for women financially and academically and they also come from cultures that tend to be more conservative, more subservient and more religious, therefore making them way more of a traditional wife and mother. | |
| Additionally, a lot of these women are coming from countries where they have far less opportunity. | |
| First of all, the GOP of these countries is way less. | |
| So what might seem like an average or like not great salary in our standards is a very, very rich man in the Philippines or Cambodia. | |
| Additionally, because of things like human trafficking in certain parts of the world where there are where women actually do not have the same legal standing, it is a very attractive offer for a woman from one of these countries to come to the U.S. and live a new life as the wife of an American man or a European man. | |
| I see. | |
| And I worked on cruise ships for several years. | |
| So a lot of the cruise companies are not American flagged. | |
| And they purposely do this with the intent of hiring large amounts of workers from other countries where you don't have to pay them the minimum wage, where they are working for nine months at a time because they have excellent work ethic. | |
| And they will go home at the end of that contract with what might not seem a great salary to us, but they're the richest person in their village. | |
| In the cruise culture, for a lot of those Filipino and Indonesian women, if you can get an American or European man to get you pregnant, then you're considered set for life. | |
| Like you're a child and your life, and you are going to move to that country. | |
| And I can see the appeal as to why American men are doing it because they, first of all, they're unique and exotic. | |
| They don't look like everybody else in the countries that these women are coming from. | |
| And these women tend to be subservient and good mothers and religious. | |
| However, I think something that is not talked about at all is how careful you have to be. | |
| Because for a lot of these women, if your choices are you're either going to be trafficked or have to get involved in the sex trade and not in the optional way that you're doing it, like in places where this is very much reality for women because they don't have the opportunity, they will do anything to get out of the country that they're in or the situation that they're in. | |
| And you do see men falling victims of being a fraud, of women lying about not being married, about women scamming men. | |
| So while it has become a more attractive option for a lot of men in this country, I think it also needs to be talked about just like meeting anybody else online or the potential risks that are involved and how you can get scammed out of thousands and thousands of dollars by just trying to. | |
| I mean, that's unfortunately like a lot of men are scammed, not even with just foreign women, but with these fake Facebook profiles and because these scammers take advantage of these men being lonely and just wanting a connection and wanting love. | |
| So it's pretty big right now. | |
| I don't know if how big it is for you guys in Scotland and the UK. | |
| I know that Thailand has banned white males from coming into certain places because they're taking advantage of the women. | |
| So obviously that's not good. | |
| I think I was reading, actually, there's a pretty interesting story. | |
| It was a group of older women from the UK that were going over to some African country and they were like doing it reverse. | |
| Like they were, you know, finding these like young, buff, tall, like African dudes and they were just like living their best, you know, grandma, grandma life. | |
| As they should. | |
| Do you think they could just be using them for the green card or the money? | |
| Well, you did say green card marriages, that is also a huge thing in the cruise industry that I've seen. | |
| Yeah, I don't know how I feel about passport bros. | |
| I mean, because I think a lot of them just want the green card for the money. | |
| Oh, for sure. | |
| I think it's reckless to encourage to encourage anything without the proper warning. | |
| And especially when the odds are really great that you can be taken advantage of and you can be the victim of a scam and fraud. | |
| And anytime your emotions get involved in it, that's when people are more susceptible to fall for those sorts of scams. | |
| What are we talking about? | |
| Passport bros. | |
| Passport bros? | |
| Isn't that an American thing? | |
| I think it is. | |
| Yeah, we have a husband. | |
| Damn. | |
| It's very common. | |
| Damn. | |
| Wow. | |
| How long was that monologue going on for? | |
| I rambled. | |
| I tend to do that. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I mean, I think you made some good points. | |
| You did. | |
| A cup of queen. | |
| Okay, so back to this feminism thing. | |
| You were saying something about women's rights. | |
| What was that? | |
| I don't remember. | |
| Like, women don't have rights or something? | |
| We were talking about in-group-out-group bias. | |
| Oh, yeah, I'm over that. | |
| You're over that? | |
| Well, I'm just, I stepped away. | |
| I'm bringing it back to kind of the original conversation. | |
| You were making claims about women not having rights or what, like, why are you feminist, I guess? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm a feminist because I believe that women should be regarded in the same image as men. | |
| I don't believe, well, first of all, I think we should get to a consensus on what our belief of feminism is because there's been a lot of talk about what feminism we're talking about. | |
| So if you guys want to chime in. | |
| Okay, I'll chime in. | |
| Thank you for that. | |
| I appreciate it. | |
| So, okay, I'll give you two definitions. | |
| I'll give you my charitable definition. | |
| I'll give you what I actually think is real. | |
| My charitable definition of feminism would be feminism is a women's advocacy movement. | |
| That's the charitable definition. | |
| Nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but let's not parade around this farcical nonsense that feminism has anything to do with equality. | |
| Equality and women's advocacy are two different things. | |
| Feminism has nothing whatsoever to do with equality, despite the many attempts, attempts. | |
| At no point has feminism ever been about equality, but it's a woman's advocacy movement. | |
| Nothing wrong with women's advocacy, but again, we shouldn't paint it as something it's not. | |
| We should try to be honest. | |
| We should never lie. | |
| I agree. | |
| I think that it is an equality movement. | |
| Well, that's okay if you disagree, but I think that it is a women's or you know equality movement. | |
| I think that people twist it. | |
| But I think at its core, feminism was born out of the desire for women to be regarded in the same image as men. | |
| Now, I still do need to give you my actual definition, but to engage on the charitable definition, I'll explain why I don't believe it's an equality movement. | |
| So feminism, or feminists rather, will at times fight for equality only if said equality stands to benefit women. | |
| So if there is a form of equality that somehow conceivably came to the detriment of women in some way, for example, if women conceivably had some privilege over men, they of course would never try to equalize this privilege or equalize whatever it was that was granting women the privilege. | |
| So for this reason, if women, or excuse me, feminists won't fight for equality across the board, even in situations where perhaps securing equality would be for the benefit of women, but especially if it's to the detriment of women, you can't call yourself an actual equality movement if you only seek equality in specific positions where it privileges women. | |
| So for example, I'll give you an example because you might be like, well, how so? | |
| Oftentimes feminist organizations will fight against things like equal custody, the granting of equal custody when it comes to child custody disputes. | |
| The other, the most clear one to me would be military conscription, the draft. | |
| So feminists, it would create equality. | |
| It would create equality between men and women to make women subject to forced military conscription. | |
| But feminist movement is not really trying to either. | |
| And you might say, well, why don't we just get rid of the draft? | |
| They're not even fighting for that. | |
| Or they could fight for what women should be drafted to. | |
| Women have had the right to vote since when was it ratified? | |
| 1920? | |
| Maybe the law was passed in, what, 1918, ratified in 1920, whatever. | |
| Women have had the right to vote for over a century. | |
| In order for men to be able to vote, they have to be subject to the selective service, forced military conscription. | |
| We've had a century of feminism. | |
| They've still, for some reason, just been refusing to acknowledge this inequality that exists between men and women as it relates to the right to vote. | |
| That's sort of interesting to me. | |
| That's sort of the right to vote, women's suffrage, is basically the genesis of feminism. | |
| How could you overlook this totally inequal component of voting where it basically says, women, you can send men off to war, but you can never face any of the actual physical ramifications of said war. | |
| But men, women can send men off to wart and die, basically, through their vote. | |
| This seems like extremely unequal. | |
| So I guess how would you reconcile that? | |
| Well, I think that is a good point. | |
| And I think that that's it is part of the same discussion, but it's also, I think, unrealistic to imagine that any group would go out of their way to make things worse for themselves. | |
| I don't think any, you know, like marginalized group would do that. | |
| But I also think, I do think that's a good point. | |
| And I think that that is for sure part of the discussion. | |
| But I also think that the main goals of feminism are not to do with the draft. | |
| Like, I think. | |
| But then let's not call it an equality movement. | |
| Let's call it what it is, a woman's advocacy movement, which again, I don't have any quarrels with women's advocacy. | |
| But your contention was about the term equality, and my same with me, my contention is also with the term equality. | |
| Well, here's why I think it's equality, because it's advocacy in the areas where women feel marginalized. | |
| In my opinion, I don't think that women, I think the feminist movement, I think they kind of lost their way. | |
| So at first it was about equality, but now they is more so about women having the upper hand, and I don't think that's the point of a movement. | |
| So they kind of lose it. | |
| It's about equity. | |
| It's not easy now. | |
| They kind of lost their way. | |
| And so now they're more for women have more power than men. | |
| And I just think that's misconstruing the point of the movement in the beginning. | |
| So now I don't think that women are actually feminists. | |
| I think they just hate men because they don't actually be for women and this and that. | |
| I think all that shit is fake, in my opinion. | |
| That's my second definition. | |
| We'll get there in just a moment. | |
| But what would you call it if men lived in a society where they were trying to protect their privileges that they had over women? | |
| Aren't they? | |
| That doesn't answer my question. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| What would I call it? | |
| Yeah, like a society where men had privilege over women and perhaps it could be, it would be detrimental to them to lose their privileges. | |
| What would you call that? | |
| Patriarchy? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, sure. | |
| So essentially what you're saying, like feminism is the counter, like is the mere opposite of patriarchy then. | |
| But I don't think, I think you're pushing a certain narrative where women are actively fighting against the draft, which I don't see that often. | |
| Well, I would say, because you were saying, well, like, who's going to, obviously nobody's going to advocate for something that would like come to their detriment. | |
| I mean, if you're not going to be afraid of what's going on, it's one thing to say that it's something that's coming to your detriment. | |
| It's another thing to saying, I'm protecting, I don't want to lose my rights. | |
| Like, what you just said was that a society where men want to protect their privileges over women, which is a problem. | |
| I don't think women are trying to protect their privileges over men. | |
| So a component of feminism is trying to protect existing female privileges that women have that men don't. | |
| I can give a good example. | |
| You're saying the draft? | |
| Like the paternal, uh, what is it? | |
| Legal paternal surrender, the paper abortion stuff. | |
| You know me so well. | |
| Yeah, so there's a bunch. | |
| I think you made, I think you made a good point. | |
| I would classify you as first-wave feminism because there's different waves, right? | |
| So, the first was about, you know, women's suffrage, simple things like women should be able to, you know, have their own bank accounts, wear pants. | |
| I would classify myself as a second-wave feminist because I think it's more than just the baseline. | |
| What the hell does any of that mean? | |
| Is you feminist or not? | |
| First-wave feminism is like the hardcore stuff that like women didn't have a right to do. | |
| Like, you know, a man could essay his wife and simple stuff like that. | |
| Second wave feminism was really about breaking down the nuclear ideology of what a woman is, right? | |
| So, gender roles for women, specifically things like women have to be in the home and cook and clean and just these gender stereotypes, right? | |
| And then you have third wave, which is like I like to call it an intolerance for intolerance, right? | |
| So, anything that women view as you know, slightly disadvantaged, they're like angry about. | |
| Now, you have fourth wave feminism, which is very much about superiority. | |
| And I have two good examples. | |
| Number one is men struggle with mental health disproportionately to women. | |
| And in the UK specifically, there have been multiple attempts to have, what are those called, like seminars for like suicide awareness for men, and it's been shut down every time. | |
| There's clips all over social media. | |
| That's not true. | |
| We're from the UK, and there's multiple, a lot, actually, especially. | |
| Well, if you want to take a second and just Google it, there's a lot of people who are talking about a lot. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Earlier in the conversation, you guys were like, We don't know jackshit about the politics and what's going on in England. | |
| Yeah, you can just Google that. | |
| I'm from England. | |
| She's talking about Scotland. | |
| No, I said England is Canada. | |
| She said the UK. | |
| Yeah, earlier, by the way, you guys said, like, oh, we don't give a fuck about what's going on in Britain. | |
| I just said that I don't mind talking about it, but sorry, I said I just don't mind talking about it, but it's not really relevant. | |
| Yeah, I also thought you were talking about immigrants. | |
| I would also say you're talking about anything like that. | |
| The fourth wave of feminism has also become synonymous with movements that I don't really think have to do with women's empowerment, but have gotten thrown in there, like the transgender movement, the, I don't want to say body positivity, but the like promoting of unhealthy lifestyles, like celebrating promiscuity, like things that are not necessarily about equality in society, | |
| but like have come to take on these ideals that are not representative of equality whatsoever. | |
| It does sound like if you leave it up to women, y'all gonna complicate the fuck out of it because what is all it is? | |
| First wave, fourth wave, second wave. | |
| It's different parts of history. | |
| All that too woke. | |
| But you could say the same thing as being a Democrat or a Republican. | |
| It means different things in different contexts. | |
| Those are actually very specific eras of American people. | |
| Right. | |
| And being a Republican 50 years ago or being a Democrat 50 years ago is very different than that ideology today. | |
| That's the same thing with feminism. | |
| The ideology from 50 years ago. | |
| Like slave owners or whatever. | |
| Correct. | |
| I kind of feel like they're still the same. | |
| Right. | |
| Like feminists 100 years ago were fighting for the right to vote and now they're fighting for the right to sell themselves and be respected. | |
| Not even for the right to sell themselves because we have that. | |
| But to be celebrated and to like promote that is like this is something you should be doing. | |
| That's my biggest rub with the modern feminist movement is that it's promoting things that no longer have to do with equality but are now pushing a very specific agenda. | |
| I would say what I've experienced is that it's less of a whole like movement to push that stuff and more of just that it's more readily available because of social media and stuff. | |
| I think that obviously, you know, any of the whatever you were saying, like selling yourself or whatever, wouldn't have been as accessible back in the day. | |
| And so I think that it's definitely been accessible. | |
| Like, it's the oldest process. | |
| It's the oldest profession in the world. | |
| It's different, though. | |
| It's different than social media. | |
| I know. | |
| Yes, it's different. | |
| But I would say like the second or third, I would say the third wave of feminism is when we started getting away like slut shaming. | |
| That was a really big thing. | |
| Like, hey, we should not criticize women for being overly promiscuous. | |
| And that was like third wave. | |
| Now, I feel like it has, I like to call it the post-feminist world, like where we've now crossed that line. | |
| Like, not only should we not criticize women for this, but we should like celebrate them as this is some sort of empowering sort of thing. | |
| And like I said, I have no problem with what you do, what anybody does, but I don't think this is something we should be telling people as a society. | |
| Like, this is aspirational. | |
| When I grow up, I want to do this. | |
| I, you know, encouraging that sort of behavior, which is what it has led to. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And to touch back on what he was saying about the situations where women are, you know, actively advocating for something that would no longer benefit them. | |
| Paternity is an amazing one, a great example because as women, now, obviously, it varies state from state. | |
| I'm from Canada. | |
| Abortion is 100% legal there. | |
| But we have many different forms to protect ourselves against an unwanted pregnancy. | |
| We have safe haven law, which says that you can drop your child off to a social services worker. | |
| We have fireplaners. | |
| We have EMS, right? | |
| We have adoption. | |
| We have the morning after pill. | |
| We have all of these different ways. | |
| But a man, if an unplanned pregnancy happens on his side, he has absolutely no say whatsoever. | |
| And that's something that's heavily debated in my community and that I push for. | |
| I think men should have the opportunity to pull out of a pregnancy at the same timeline that a woman does, right? | |
| But that's something that women are finding unacceptable. | |
| They're suggesting that that's just a way to encourage men to, you know, abandon their babies. | |
| And it's not really what it's about. | |
| It's about having rights over your own autonomy. | |
| And if you look at like men don't even have access to proper birth control. | |
| They've got condoms. | |
| We all know condoms suck, you know? | |
| So that's a really good example of something where women are, it would like equally benefit us, but because it's benefiting men more, they're just not for that. | |
| Well, I would take it even a step further than that because I think sometimes women, the way that this feminist movement looks now, women don't even advocate for things that would benefit them. | |
| And just let me finish. | |
| And like one thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the feminist movement, if we truly want to protect women and we want equality, is why does the modern day feminist women not advocate for, this is going to sound shocking to you guys, why do we not advocate for female firearm ownership and training? | |
| Right. | |
| Because teach us how to protect ourselves, right? | |
| Exactly. | |
| We're not protecting us. | |
| Why do you have to protect yourself if men are so superior? | |
| It's not that, but that's the thing is I don't think they're superior, but they are bigger. | |
| They're stronger. | |
| They're going to, they're more of a threat to me than I am to them. | |
| No, I agree with that. | |
| It's true, but I think that, and you might, listen, I'm not disagreeing with you because I think that's an important conversation too. | |
| But I think that, again, that centers the idea around women protecting themselves rather than men just not being a threat. | |
| Oh, absolutely. | |
| Well, but the problem is, I mean, things sound right. | |
| I studied government. | |
| I studied political theory. | |
| Things can work out in theory, but that's not how the real world is. | |
| I wish that I've said before, I'm a vegetarian. | |
| Like, I do not believe in firearm ownership for the sake of hunting or owning or, you know, killing animals. | |
| I think it's really sad that we live in a world where random girls are getting attacked on a bus or being followed after they're, you know, walking home from work or they're just on a run. | |
| They're minding their own business. | |
| And if we, if men are stronger and have, and I'm not saying all men, but if some of them are a little kooky and then enact that violence on women, why are we not promoting more ways for women to be able to protect themselves? | |
| Because in that case, that firearm is the equalizer. | |
| A true feminist is going to see it happening as an equal on the other side. | |
| Women are just as dangerous. | |
| So you can't be a feminist and not take women accountability. | |
| You got to be able to say women are dangerous too. | |
| You got to be able to say women are fucked up too. | |
| Instead of being like, well, men, this is the same thing. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I remember something you said about we should teach men not to do these things, right? | |
| Do you think like, broadly speaking, men are just like completely ignorant? | |
| Like they, they just innately want to just like essay women. | |
| Is that kind of your position? | |
| No, that's the opposite. | |
| But like, can I ask you a question on this? | |
| Because I hear this argument a lot. | |
| And look, obviously nobody should be victimized ever. | |
| But like living in reality, for example, the United States, I forgot which governing body it is or what the institution is called. | |
| I don't know if it's the State Department, but they say here are certain countries that as an American, not because you're an American, but as an American, we don't recommend you going there for any reason whatsoever because these countries are dangerous, right? | |
| Would you, like, let's say I went to Somalia. | |
| One of the countries they say don't travel to is Somalia. | |
| So level 10. | |
| If you're American, right? | |
| They say this country is like really dangerous. | |
| There's a bunch of corruption. | |
| Like you're probably going to die if you go there, et cetera. | |
| Like if an American goes to Somalia, I don't want anything bad to happen to them. | |
| Nothing bad should happen. | |
| But like if you end up, like would you be kind of surprised if they ended up with the money? | |
| So what's the comparison? | |
| Well, you were making this argument that, well, we should only put the onus on the perpetrator, right? | |
| And look, I think that... | |
| But what's the action the woman's doing that would put the... | |
| That's what I want to know. | |
| Like, what's the comparison? | |
| What's going to Somalia? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, well, first, just do you agree with me on the Somalia example? | |
| Like, clearly there are actions that you can take on the individual level that put you yourself in harm's way. | |
| You shouldn't be like attacked or murdered or anything like that. | |
| But like, if I go to a bad part of town, if I go to a bad part of town, even in the United States, at like 3 a.m. and I'm like in gang territory and I'm wearing like certain colors, like I shouldn't, I should not be surprised when some, it shouldn't happen, but I like how, so maybe I should be like, I'm not going to wear red in this neighborhood at 3 a.m. | |
| But what's the comparison? | |
| Well, the comparison. | |
| Sure, but you're trying to. | |
| No, you brought up an analogy. | |
| I want to know what it's comparing. | |
| I can help with this one. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I can weigh in too, but go ahead. | |
| Do you want to go? | |
| You're the host? | |
| Well, I would say like, I don't know. | |
| You're alluding to like SA, right? | |
| That's what you were alluding. | |
| Yeah, I think you're alluding to SA. | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| I would say like women can take certain preventative measures to protect themselves. | |
| Obviously, a woman should never be SA'd. | |
| That's a terrible crime. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But there are certain things like you can do to protect yourself. | |
| Like, for example, don't go get like shit face blasted at a frat party. | |
| Like, you shouldn't be essayed in that circumstance, but like prevent it to prevent something like that from happening. | |
| Why should you have to? | |
| I can. | |
| Look, no, I don't. | |
| I'm not saying, hold on, just to be clear, just to be clear, I'm not saying a woman should not be essayed under any circumstance, but I'm saying like the reality is that these crimes do occur. | |
| They're fucking disgusting. | |
| If I were to witness it, I'd want to kill the guy or whatever. | |
| I'd want to beat him up. | |
| Brian, you're a little flappy. | |
| Come on. | |
| What are you going to do? | |
| But if I saw this, I would absolutely go berserk. | |
| It's a despicable fucking crime. | |
| They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. | |
| But if I had a daughter, I wouldn't just, I wouldn't live in fantasy land and just be like, you know what? | |
| Just go get totally shitfaced drunk at a frat house. | |
| I would be like, eh, maybe, no, don't do that. | |
| I think you're totally right question. | |
| What frat houses here? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't think that's a good idea. | |
| It's like a sorority for men. | |
| Yeah, it's a great thing, actually. | |
| Oh, so are you saying that frat, are they dangerous people? | |
| No, not necessarily. | |
| I mean, I'm not making something like... | |
| I'm not like... | |
| No, I think you're right, but I also think that both things can be true at the same time. | |
| That I think we can women can protect themselves, and I also think that men can be taught to not totally. | |
| Like, I never, I just, I don't want you to think that what I was saying was that women shouldn't take measures to protect themselves, because I definitely do. | |
| Right. | |
| I think where this conversation gets tough is, you know, we both get victim blamed, men or women, but historically, women have had a much higher rate of, you know, being victim blamed, especially when they're victimized. | |
| And so these conversations can be tough because it comes across like maybe the woman deserved it or she did something. | |
| And that's not what anybody is saying, but the reality is, is that using preventative measures is very important. | |
| And we understand this when it comes to children, for example, right? | |
| Like, I'm a mom of two, and I do everything I can to protect my children against pedophiles, right? | |
| We tell them, like, don't talk to people on the internet. | |
| Don't do this, this, this, and this. | |
| That's not suggesting that if anything were to happen to my child, that that was their fault. | |
| It means that it's my responsibility to put certain measures in place so that they can protect themselves. | |
| And it's the same ideology. | |
| It just comes across as very salty when you tell women, like, oh, well, if you don't want to get SA'd, just like protect yourself. | |
| It's not the reality. | |
| It's just that we live in a very sick world and nobody deserves to be like SA'd or assaulted, you know, but it's the same ideology. | |
| If you have, you know, if Brian here is rich as fuck and he goes out, you know, into a crowded place in town and he's counting all his money and flashing his Rolex, if he gets robbed, is that his fault? | |
| No, it's not. | |
| It's 100% the onus is on the perpetrator. | |
| However, could he have been a little bit more responsible not to attract that? | |
| Yeah, that doesn't mean it's his fault. | |
| Exercising caution. | |
| Right, right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, we should obviously acknowledge that these sorts of crimes should never occur. | |
| If we want to live in, like, function in good society, where we like harm reduction. | |
| Harm reduction, that's the word. | |
| Right. | |
| Right. | |
| These things should never happen. | |
| But knowing that there are people out there who are either crazy or they have ill intent or whatever, we do have, it's like, why do we have militaries? | |
| Like, I don't think anybody's in favor of going to war, but like sometimes you even need something, you need a military for defensive reasons. | |
| Like what if somebody else invades us? | |
| How can you move through the world in a way knowing that there are evil people out there to protect yourself? | |
| Again, it's not, it shouldn't happen, but knowing that there are bad people out there, how can we take actions to protect ourselves? | |
| And we got interrupted, but you made a comment to me about me thinking men are superior. | |
| Do you feel like I've come across that way? | |
| For sure. | |
| How so? | |
| Just your demeanor. | |
| Okay. | |
| And that's a negative thing to think that men are superior. | |
| No, I'm not saying that's a negative thing. | |
| I'm just saying that's how you come across. | |
| You have a chat. | |
| How so, though? | |
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| You said something. | |
| I have a right to just get some clarity. | |
| Please stop calling me that. | |
| Other people may not realize it's condescending, but like you and I are both women. | |
| We know that women call each other that to like, okay, cupcake. | |
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| I'm just curious where what I said, how it came across that I think that men are superior. | |
| It's just your demeanor. | |
| How so? | |
| It's literally just your demeanor. | |
| Do I look like a man? | |
| Is that what you're saying? | |
| No, I'm Ken, you don't. | |
| You're actually very proud. | |
| Thank you. | |
| So what part of my demeanor has come across? | |
| Can you explain a little bit? | |
| I did what you just did, bro. | |
| No, bro. | |
| Saying it's just how you come across isn't getting any clarifying. | |
| You're giving like, I hate women. | |
| Do you think so? | |
| For sure. | |
| That's very interesting. | |
| You know, I get that a lot because I choose to take a look then. | |
| Yeah, I do, because I take a male stance and not a lot of people like that. | |
| However, the people that know me know that I'm actually like quite a girl's girl and I'm both. | |
| So just because somebody may have like an understanding or bring a perspective of men doesn't mean that they're just like naturally against women. | |
| But I think it's just how you feel. | |
| I am not a girl's girl. | |
| Like real bitches. | |
| I love men. | |
| And I love women. | |
| I love both equally, but I still don't come across that way. | |
| So what about my demeanor, though, has come across like I think men are superior? | |
| No, it's just your energy, man. | |
| You're just kind of soul-sucking. | |
| I'm sucking. | |
| I'm not in a good way. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm wondering if you can clarify on that a little bit. | |
| The onlybody sucking souls here is you, lady. | |
| I love you. | |
| She's not sucking my soul. | |
| How are you coming from my girl, Chloe, bro? | |
| I'm just eating. | |
| Put some respect on my girlfriend. | |
| No, I think she's totally hot, but I think that this is your homegirl. | |
| My Caucasian. | |
| You're my Caucasian, Chloe. | |
| We were talking earlier about how women will excuse certain behavior coming from women. | |
| And I think this is somewhat ties into it where everybody's a girl's girl until another woman goes against maybe your basic beliefs or what maybe you think women should. | |
| That's how you come across to me because I don't. | |
| But you can't give me an actual reason as to why. | |
| You're just like, well, what's your demeanor? | |
| And I do. | |
| Girl. | |
| I'm just not saying anything of substance. | |
| That's how you come across to me. | |
| You're saying, oh, a girl's girl until you do something that you don't agree with. | |
| I do something you don't agree with. | |
| And then you immediately come for me, come for my job, because you don't agree with her. | |
| Can you give me an example? | |
| Yeah, give an example. | |
| The fact that I love God and I love Pussy. | |
| Like, you know what? | |
| That was actually a term, actually. | |
| So I don't really think you have a reason. | |
| I think that you see a woman that's taking, like, a male stance and trying to give perspective, which is equality, by the way. | |
| I think you said that you were a feminist. | |
| But it's not if you're taking a male stance, then you should be taking both stances. | |
| I have. | |
| If you've paid attention, I actually have. | |
| You straighten me. | |
| So. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, I think maybe I'm saying some things that you are out of your perspective and you don't like that. | |
| So you want to label me as it just sounds like you're talking about her energy and not like that. | |
| That is just an energy vibe. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yo, crazy Ace. | |
| Thank you for the gifted 10 subs. | |
| I don't know why it's not letting me pull it up, but thank you, man. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| Did you want to continue on, Chloe? | |
| No, I don't think she's willing to have a. | |
| I don't think she has an actual reason. | |
| I think she sees a men's rights advocate and automatically assumes that we like suck men's dick. | |
| But if you're familiar with me or my content, I call both out very equally. | |
| So, but I appreciate your judgment. | |
| I'm sorry I'm coming across that way. | |
| That's okay, don't you know how? | |
| Scottish Scottish. | |
| Maybe it's the Romanian and yeah, I don't know. | |
| Just come off. | |
| Scone's very fun. | |
| I love it. | |
| She loves it. | |
| Okay. | |
| How about this? | |
| Women are just. | |
| So I know not all of you had a chance to do the questionnaire, but I'll just ask it to everybody. | |
| Women are just as physically strong as men. | |
| Summer. | |
| You agree with that statement. | |
| And I believe that's it. | |
| Do you think women are just as physically strong as men? | |
| I mean, I think it depends on the individual, but as a whole, I would say no. | |
| Generally. | |
| What do you think, Texas? | |
| I don't think women are stronger than men at all. | |
| You said women are just as physically strong as men. | |
| Why is that? | |
| I think it depends on the man. | |
| So, like, if you're a weak man and I'm a strong woman, where exactly? | |
| Right. | |
| So, I agree that there are definitely women who are physically some women who are physically stronger than men. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But in totality, if you were to compare. | |
| Also, we have like a pain perspective or whatever it is. | |
| Like, we handle pain a lot of thresholds. | |
| Yeah, we handle pain a lot better than men. | |
| On the inside, but physically, accepting the fact that a man could beat my ass would get me out of a lot of situations. | |
| Oh, for sure. | |
| But, like, if I'm a very strong woman and a very weak man stepped up to me, I'm going to beat his ass. | |
| I think a man that's weak, perceived as we could still beat your ass because it ain't nothing like a man's strength, in my opinion. | |
| But if he's weak, that's just the fact. | |
| Actually, it's not even in my opinion. | |
| That's a fact. | |
| That's a strange strength. | |
| Are men on average stronger? | |
| Probably, yeah. | |
| But if it's a weak man, if I'm a strong woman, then it's the same. | |
| She'll take some of that. | |
| Right, but there's more. | |
| Well, I guess I'd frame it like this: there's more strong men than there are strong women. | |
| Yeah, biologically, men are stronger. | |
| Okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nothing to push back on then? | |
| Nah. | |
| Women can't be sexist towards men. | |
| Would you agree with that? | |
| Women can't be sexist towards men? | |
| Women can't be sexist. | |
| Well, here, I'll change the framing so I guess it makes a bit more sense. | |
| People of color can't be racist towards white people. | |
| Do you agree with that? | |
| I do, yeah. | |
| Okay, going around the table. | |
| What do you think? | |
| I agree. | |
| You agree? | |
| What about you? | |
| Sorry, I agree. | |
| That women can't be sexist towards men. | |
| No, people of color can't be racist towards white people. | |
| I mean, they are all the time, and it's but. | |
| Okay, so you disagree. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| I agree. | |
| So, okay, like a black person can't be racist towards a white person. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| Can a person of color be racist towards a white person? | |
| Muse. | |
| Yes? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes, I agree. | |
| Yes, they can be. | |
| Mike's. | |
| Yes, they can. | |
| Chloe? | |
| I see it every day. | |
| Yes, they can. | |
| So you said, no, they can't. | |
| No, they can't. | |
| No, they can't. | |
| Why is that? | |
| Well, I think that, I mean, obviously you can make discriminatory jokes towards any race, but I think that the concept of racism holds a lot more weight than towards people of color than it would towards white people. | |
| So I think that racism, in the true sense of the word, white people can't experience that because we've been on top forever. | |
| Okay, what do you think? | |
| I'll respond after. | |
| I agree. | |
| Like, I don't think that if someone was to call me like a white slur, like, I wouldn't be offended by it. | |
| Like, it wouldn't affect you in the same way. | |
| But then, by this logic, if a black person was defended by somebody calling them a racial slur, I would still like from the outside. | |
| But it might offend other black people. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure. | |
| But calling a white person a white slur could offend some white people. | |
| But I would say way proportionally less. | |
| I'd be willing to grant that, but it would still offend some white people. | |
| Yeah, but I don't think it really has much volume behind the word. | |
| Right, but if you were to call me like a slur. | |
| But if Jenny was to call me slurs, I would be offended. | |
| But I feel like an anti-Scottish slur. | |
| Yeah, there's no way there's no beef. | |
| Yeah, there's a lot of history there. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, you were talking about something earlier. | |
| I don't remember. | |
| remember specifically, but it was something about how they banned white men from going into a place. | |
| Yeah, Thailand. | |
| They've banned white men from the UK from going into Thailand because they kept killing the prostitutes in Thailand. | |
| Wait, really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wait, white people aren't allowed in the world. | |
| No, so if you're like a white man going to Thailand alone for a long period of time, it's substantially a lot harder now to get because of what happened. | |
| Yeah, I just think that that's a bit of a good example on how to burn up their economy. | |
| But I don't think that's racism against that's based on white people. | |
| Right, but if you look at like statistics, if statistics in America show that like marginalized groups commit color because of your what like white communication, white men are just white men. | |
| I didn't actually banned from going to Thailand. | |
| It's not like they're like you're specifically banned. | |
| I'm googling it, I can't do it. | |
| I can't see any anyways, whatever. | |
| Yeah, so in Canada, I think it's black and indigenous people disproportionately commit more crimes than like white or South Asian or things like that. | |
| So if we were to start like segregating, you know, black or indigenous people based off of crime stats, I just think that would that would be racist. | |
| So I'm not really taking an opinion too much on the Thailand stuff. | |
| I'm not educated enough on that topic. | |
| I'm just saying I think that's a great example of how looking at someone for their skin color and judging them on the actions of others does affect those who didn't do anything. | |
| I think that's an interesting point because I but I also think it's very different because that was based like truth is people of color in most countries, especially ones that are, you know, like the United States, are like a lot of the you know crime stats. | |
| It's true, maybe you know they did commit those crimes, but a lot of it is because of the position they were put in. | |
| Historically, I agree, and so, and that's just completely different than white people going to a different country and killing prostitutes. | |
| You might have a good point there. | |
| But what I'm confused. | |
| Why do you think people of color can't be racist? | |
| I don't get that. | |
| It's not that you can't say something racist, like you could say, I hate white people, white people this, whatever. | |
| But I think that it doesn't hold the same weight as it would towards. | |
| But if you're a black, you know business owner or landlord and you choose like I'm not gonna hire white people or I'm gonna not rent to white people, like there are, are you saying like there are not the means or the methods there for black people? | |
| I mean, that's for sure, but I think I well. | |
| I guess what I'm saying is that, like the avenues in the sense of like prejudice, isn't the same. | |
| I don't think we're talking about systemic racism. | |
| I think we're talking like one-to-one personal. | |
| Yeah, I hate you because you're skin color. | |
| Would you agree the difference there? | |
| I just think it's offensive to say that black people cannot be racist because we have had y'all, honestly, y'all wouldn't be able to fight for anything if it wasn't for black people in this country. | |
| We were the first movement, civil rights movement. | |
| So, for starters, I don't think that it's fair to say black people can't be racist because we fall for our power and our rights. | |
| So, saying that black people cannot be racist is saying that we don't have power, which is basically condescending to the civil rights movement. | |
| I'm not about to say that. | |
| But I also get what you're saying. | |
| It doesn't impact white people the same way that it does somebody like me, right? | |
| If somebody was to be racist towards me, rather than okay. | |
| Then I then won't. | |
| But wouldn't it? | |
| Yeah, saying, like, isn't it almost baked in racism to say that black people can't do X? | |
| Like, they can't be like, I think what you're saying is like, you're sure I would all not say it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It could be. | |
| And then you also think that black people or people of color, whatever, can't be racist. | |
| I think personally, I've never had anyone be racist towards me. | |
| I think. | |
| But is it possible? | |
| Yes and no. | |
| I'm like, I know you're rolling your eyes, but I'm just listening to what everyone else is saying. | |
| I wasn't rolling my eyes. | |
| Okay, I just wanted to say that. | |
| No, I wasn't rolling my eyes. | |
| No, I'm trying to listen to everyone's points. | |
| So my opinion can change throughout when everyone is speaking. | |
| Oh, so your opinion has changed? | |
| No, it's still on the fence. | |
| I feel like they can be racist, but it doesn't, as they were saying, it doesn't hold as much gravity. | |
| Yeah, because we've always been, well, I personally have never neither been involved in any situation. | |
| While somebody calling you a cracker or something, isn't going to be a problem. | |
| Wait, just for platform, just for platform rules, just don't say that term. | |
| Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, though. | |
| I didn't even think that was offensive. | |
| That's why I said, I don't find it offensive, but YouTube and Twitch have an issue with slurs. | |
| I guess so. | |
| I had a weird experience. | |
| I had a weird experience with it once where I was hired to come help these guys in Toronto with their podcast, and they were all Jamaican, so all black. | |
| And I'm sitting there in the meeting again. | |
| They hired me. | |
| And this one guy, this young guy, is just like fucking rude. | |
| He's like rolling his eyes at everything I'm saying, staring at me, shaking my head. | |
| And so I stopped the meeting and I was like, what's like, what's your problem with me? | |
| Like, you guys hired me to be here. | |
| Why are you being so rude? | |
| And he looked me dead in my face and he's like, my mom taught me not to trust or be courteous to white women with tattoos. | |
| And I was like, dude, I would literally never look at you and treat you differently or make an assumption because of your skin color. | |
| So why are you doing it to me? | |
| So I actually have received it. | |
| I would agree that it's probably more rare. | |
| Like black people, 100%, any marginalized group, they definitely take on the weight of racism far more. | |
| But I'm just saying it does fucking happen. | |
| And I experienced it and it was weird. | |
| When the UK becomes a Muslim-majority country, that's not going to happen. | |
| Really? | |
| Please trust me when I say read the news. | |
| Scotland is a white country. | |
| I think they are, honestly. | |
| Trust me, there's. | |
| Have you been lately? | |
| Have I been? | |
| No, I found it. | |
| No, I haven't. | |
| When the UK is predominantly white, has always been predominantly white. | |
| There's, yeah, there's Muslims. | |
| We don't care. | |
| You're only seeing, like, that's the news taking some crazy things. | |
| We had it for trans people a month ago. | |
| It's not a big deal. | |
| Like, it isn't, they're not pushing an agenda, especially not in Scotland anymore. | |
| Hold on, isn't London. | |
| They're not marginalized. | |
| Wait, wait, wait, hold on. | |
| London, like, wait, is London the capital of? | |
| Yeah, yeah, you've literally lost your capital. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You've literally lost the capital. | |
| You've literally lost your capital. | |
| Hello? | |
| Bro, have we? | |
| Have we been? | |
| Yes. | |
| Have you been? | |
| No, I haven't. | |
| Where did you get this from? | |
| Where have you got your. | |
| In Canada? | |
| There's literally. | |
| Do you think London is safer? | |
| Do you think London is safer today or 30 years ago? | |
| London has never been safer. | |
| Is it safer? | |
| Was it safer 30 years ago or is it safer today? | |
| London has never been safer. | |
| You mean with all the stabbings and the knife crimes? | |
| Oh, I knew that I knew this was going to happen. | |
| I mean, they got to talk to everybody. | |
| This has always been a problem. | |
| London has always had knife crime. | |
| Scotland, London, they've always had knife crime. | |
| Always. | |
| I mean, people say that about New York too. | |
| New York is way safe. | |
| It's nothing to do with Polish Muslims. | |
| It's never been anything to do with Muslims. | |
| It hasn't to do with Muslims now. | |
| This is just the agenda that they're pushing because they want something to blame. | |
| It was trans people a month ago. | |
| Look, demographically, there's a lot of shift going on in Europe, a lot of shift. | |
| And essentially, by the way, white people are a minority globally speaking. | |
| Not in the UK. | |
| Please trust us. | |
| There's barely any black people in Scotland. | |
| When I say globally, I'm talking globally. | |
| So white people are a minority globally speaking. | |
| And we have, you know, there's European countries that for most of human, all of human history, basically are white. | |
| Romanians. | |
| Basically white. | |
| And I'm telling you, in 30, 40, 50, 60 years, you look at Amsterdam, you look at the, well, in the Netherlands, you look at what's happening in France, you look at what's happening in the UK, you look at Germany. | |
| These are no longer, they're going to be a lot of people. | |
| That's all there are white travel everywhere. | |
| Y'all are not a minor. | |
| But I do have this. | |
| White people are nationalized. | |
| White people are a global minority. | |
| White people are everywhere. | |
| Can we talk about the people from London who have emigrated to Australia? | |
| Like, why is it a problem? | |
| It's just when it's people of color. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| It's just travel that's more accessible. | |
| It's just travel. | |
| But he's not necessarily saying it's a problem. | |
| But we can do it more accessibly now. | |
| No, I am right. | |
| White people are a global minority. | |
| Sure. | |
| But they're not a marginalized community. | |
| I see the money. | |
| What is the point of them being a global minority? | |
| Why are you bringing it to them? | |
| Well, I guess it depends what your sense of marginalized is. | |
| But if like in your own country, I guess my question would be, do you think there's anything wrong with Japan, for example, not wanting to take in immigrants? | |
| Like, do you think that's wrong if Japanese people want Japan to remain Japanese? | |
| No, that's their country. | |
| They can do what they want. | |
| That's their country. | |
| But so what would be wrong with European countries wanting their culture to like maintain the majority of us don't want that? | |
| Like I'm dead serious. | |
| The majority do not want that. | |
| If you look at Scotland, there was this, what are they called? | |
| Like far-right, Tommy Robinson. | |
| Yeah, Tommy Robinson. | |
| So the Tommy Robinson people came to Scotland, came to Glasgow. | |
| They were pushed back by other people. | |
| There was like 10 of them that showed up. | |
| Hundreds pushed them back. | |
| Can we clarify that we're not advocating for like white supremacy or like xenophobia or anything? | |
| I know. | |
| I do have to say, though, and this is just from personal experience. | |
| I first went to Europe when I was 16 years old. | |
| I studied abroad in Spain. | |
| I go every year, a few times a year for work. | |
| I have noticed in the past few years, every time I go, with the influx of African migrants, I don't live there, so I can't say I want them or not. | |
| But they are coming up to your car. | |
| You're just trying to walk down the street in Italy, Germany. | |
| They try to are trying to sell you things. | |
| You guys asked if I've been to London. | |
| Did that have to do with anything? | |
| Well, what I'm saying is to say that there has not been an influx of migrants that are changing. | |
| We're just saying it's not necessarily a problem. | |
| We're not actually seeing where we're from. | |
| I have one of my closest friends is a dual citizen. | |
| She comes back and forth from England. | |
| I have other very good friends that live in the Netherlands. | |
| They are saying it is a problem that there isn't been an increase in stabbing because obviously you guys don't have firearms. | |
| But where she lives in The Hague. | |
| Where else does she live in England? | |
| Do you know? | |
| I know that. | |
| Are you Googling the facts? | |
| I don't remember that. | |
| I know it's somewhere in the south of the country. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The south is a bit more stoppy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Britain's always been stabby. | |
| But I have friends in the Netherlands that are saying the same thing that live in The Hague. | |
| That my personal experience, last time I went to Naples, Italy, I was, man, I was being followed. | |
| I was, you know, because like walking around by myself. | |
| And you're like, followed by what, black people? | |
| My migrants, I don't know if they are black or Middle Eastern or. | |
| But you know, this has always been a well, obviously we're not told, but every time we go to LA, it's always the same. | |
| It's not like this isn't like a problem that has literally just happened. | |
| It's not a problem at all. | |
| I guess it's just, but you're just noticing it. | |
| You're just noticing it now because more people are talking about it on the news. | |
| Like we've always had migrants like the UK. | |
| Wait, but you've led in. | |
| Hold on. | |
| All these European countries have like, there's been a total floodgate opening of immigration. | |
| Yes, there's been, there were immigrants back in the 70s, of course. | |
| But like there's been massive floodgate opening. | |
| It's happening in Canada, the USA. | |
| It's happening all over Europe. | |
| And I mean, if this was like happening in the reverse, you guys would, it would be called colonialism. | |
| No, I don't think it would actually be taking over our country. | |
| Like, they're running away from something. | |
| They're running away from a war. | |
| And we're lighting them up. | |
| That's not colonialism. | |
| It's not colonial. | |
| Except refugees, I think. | |
| Yeah, but no, most of these people. | |
| Hold on. | |
| A lot of these people that are immigrating, it's not because of crime, or it's not because of war. | |
| It's for economic reasons. | |
| There's much more prosperity. | |
| That's another thing to run away from. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's still funny. | |
| Right, but so then the situation in those countries just gets worse and worse. | |
| There's brain drain on these countries. | |
| Of course, the most intelligent, intellectual people, they would be best suited to help build up their own country. | |
| But if they all leave, you have what's called brain drain. | |
| And then what are you going to do? | |
| Like, the country just gets worse and worse. | |
| What's wrong with building up their countries? | |
| Thank you. | |
| You're literally describing Canada right now. | |
| I don't know what the hell has happened, but like as a liberal, the liberals have fucked up the country. | |
| Like we're talking about bringing people in and giving them like $4,000 a month to live when Canadians can't even pay their own fucking bills and buy groceries. | |
| It is so, so, so bad. | |
| It's so bad. | |
| I was just in Edmonton and our neighbor. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I'm from Calgary. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, that's right there. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I love it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I was just there and the Uber driver just like gave the whole thing. | |
| He was just like, I've never, he's like, you just seem like, you're nice to talk to. | |
| And then next thing you know, he just told me the whole shindig with the whole sponsorship thing. | |
| So it's like literally not even what, like two weeks ago, I just learned about that whole shit. | |
| I'll give an example. | |
| So I actually have dual citizenship. | |
| You know, I'm America first, no, no, in France. | |
| I was born in France, but I had my mom's American, so dual citizenship, whatever. | |
| But of course, my loyalties must remain with the U.S. | |
| But I was born in France. | |
| I lived there till I was like five, whatever, moved here, and I've been back over the years. | |
| I remember when I was a kid going to the Eiffel Tower. | |
| A lot's changed in 30 years. | |
| Yeah, there was a lot. | |
| Yeah, but for the worse. | |
| So I remember I could go to the Eiffel Tower. | |
| There weren't barricades. | |
| There weren't like anti-terrorist soldiers stationed around with like rifles everywhere. | |
| When I went, and this was 10 years ago in 2014, when I went back to France and I went to the Eiffel Tower, there were soldiers everywhere with guns. | |
| I don't remember that when I was a kid. | |
| That wasn't. | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| We did. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| You guys, how old are you guys? | |
| You're in your mid-20s. | |
| I'm 36. | |
| You guys were not alive when I was five when I went to the Eiffel Tower as a kid. | |
| I didn't remember when you were five. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Hold on. | |
| When you're five. | |
| When you were five. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I don't remember when I was a child. | |
| I don't remember. | |
| Well, I don't remember. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I don't remember things when I was one or two, but I definitely remember things when I was five. | |
| And then I went back when I was seven, when I was nine. | |
| But then when I went in 2014, 10 years ago, that's when I saw the soldiers. | |
| So there's massive, absolute massive shifts going on in France. | |
| France has let in a bunch, and there's a lot of crime. | |
| There's been a bunch of terrorist attacks in France. | |
| It's just a sad state of affairs when you could go to the Eiffel Tower and there weren't a bunch of barricades and there weren't soldiers with guns. | |
| Now there are. | |
| Yeah, didn't somebody like behead their teacher due to doesn't that happen in America all of the time? | |
| Don't you guys have a survey of ahead and in Dallas? | |
| Yeah, it happens. | |
| Speaking to the mic. | |
| It happened one time, right? | |
| And it's a problem. | |
| It happens in your country all the time and it's not a problem. | |
| So what's the definition? | |
| Wait, it is a problem when it does happen. | |
| No, but like why is it used as a statistic when it happens one time in one country and a bunch of years when it happens in your country multiple times daily? | |
| What are you talking about terrorist attacks? | |
| No, like attacks, like violence, gun violence, knife violence, all of this stuff. | |
| Yeah, that's a bad thing. | |
| Yeah, so all the time. | |
| But why is it only used against immigrants and like Europe? | |
| Do you know what I'm saying? | |
| I'm not coming across. | |
| Do you understand what I'm saying? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like you're saying, oh, but someone was beheaded and Paris. | |
| That's awful. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| It's really, really awful. | |
| It's horrible. | |
| It happens here. | |
| Why is that not used as a statistic here? | |
| No, I think for a starter, how much bigger the U.S. is compared to other countries. | |
| I mean, if you look at like these incidents per 100,000 people, I'm sure that the incident rate is probably way closer than if you look at the U.S. as in its entirety. | |
| And all the incidents that happen in the U.S. with the 370 million people we have here compared to the population of France or England, of course, it's going to be disproportionate with the population. | |
| It doesn't mean that we're a more violent country. | |
| No, I'm not saying you're a violent country at all. | |
| I'm just saying that like you can't use one thing and be like, oh, the migrants are taking over because one singular person beheaded someone somewhere in Paris. | |
| Because that's, it just makes no sense. | |
| Oh, of course. | |
| But I think, you know, even if you go to the Eiffel Tower now, right? | |
| You have everybody, all the migrants lined up selling things on the street. | |
| There's always been Licky Licky Man. | |
| And then the police came and they all come with, they pull the towel and they run. | |
| Yes, it has always been there. | |
| But I've been going, I go to Europe every year, multiple times a year. | |
| I go. | |
| And I know you guys live there, so I, but I also am traveling to different parts. | |
| I'm not necessarily like if you go to my hometown and you try to use that as representative of what's going on in the entirety of the United States, you know, you're going to be disappointed and you're not going to get an accurate reflection on what's happening at different parts of the country. | |
| I can only give like anecdotal evidence of this. | |
| I don't know the statistics, but I have seen in my last decade going every year that things have changed. | |
| There has been an influx of migrants. | |
| I don't know if that necessarily is related to the certain incidences that are happening. | |
| And I'm certainly not excusing racism or anti-immigrant rhetoric. | |
| Of course. | |
| Whatever. | |
| However, I think. | |
| What would be wrong with anti-immigrant rhetoric? | |
| Well, I just don't know enough about the statistics to make any sort of claim that the immigrants of their causes are. | |
| Illegal immigration. | |
| But look, you're saying, yeah, there are specific individual acts of violence. | |
| But like when we're making criticisms of illegal immigration or even you, there's even valid criticisms of just basic level immigration that's even legal. | |
| There's other impacts beyond just crime or beyond like specific acts of like terrorism or whatever it is. | |
| You know, we can look economically. | |
| There's massive negative economic impacts to this too. | |
| Could you name them? | |
| Oh, absolutely. | |
| Increasing rent prices. | |
| And that's the immigrants' fault? | |
| Well, if you have a limited fault, like housing is not infinite. | |
| So if you have a limited housing supply and you're like, there's an influx of like 50, 100,000 people into an area, yeah, that's going to drive rental prices up. | |
| So that's, I'm talking from my country. | |
| Is anybody here with the current rental prices anywhere? | |
| I'm talking from my country. | |
| Okay. | |
| And Scotland, the problem isn't immigrants. | |
| The problem is people buying multiple properties and then, well, I can't talk about that. | |
| Look, look, just to be clear, rental prices are not. | |
| That's why the rental prices are high. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Obviously, this is a multi-varied issue. | |
| I'm not saying the entirety of the blame. | |
| Yes, it could be greedy landlords. | |
| It could be corporations that are scooping up properties. | |
| It could be all these things in total. | |
| But this is one of the negative components to immigration is they have to live somewhere. | |
| They're occupying the housing stock that could otherwise go to citizens of the country. | |
| Yes, but we also do that in their, well, not their country, but we also do that in Australia. | |
| We also do that here in America. | |
| Like Scottish people, Irish people, English people migrate to America. | |
| You just have a housing problem. | |
| Why is it only immigration from Scotland? | |
| There's a lot from Ireland. | |
| There is. | |
| I'm from New York. | |
| I mean, maybe like a hundred years. | |
| Hold on. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| I know all them. | |
| I know people that are working in America illegally. | |
| Like, it's very. | |
| Okay, fine. | |
| Then we should deport the illegal Irish too, then. | |
| No, I love the Irish people. | |
| I don't think you should report anyone. | |
| Okay, but like, okay, sure, I guess. | |
| Like, why is it only a problem when it's someone like fleeing from a war-torn country? | |
| Why is it only? | |
| Mexicans are not fleeing from Scotland. | |
| We're not talking about refugees. | |
| Mexicans call immigration. | |
| I'm talking about the U.S. | |
| Yeah, we're talking. | |
| We're talking about our country. | |
| No, you were talking about even, well, even in America, there's Scottish and Irish immigrants. | |
| No, that's just my mocking. | |
| I think what she was saying is that there's migrants to Scotland, but there's also migrants leaving Scotland and going to different countries. | |
| That's how it works. | |
| People move. | |
| I think she was saying there's like a give and take. | |
| I mean, if you're trying to point this out like as a sort of own, like, oh, Brian, I'm sure you're fine with the illegal immigrants from Scotland. | |
| I'd be like, no, I'm not fine with any of them. | |
| No, but no one ever talks about it. | |
| Talks about what? | |
| No one ever is like. | |
| We talk about it here in the USA. | |
| Wasn't there just massive protests? | |
| Yeah, there's massive protests across the UK. | |
| There's not. | |
| There is. | |
| I literally, Nick, find that video. | |
| Find that video. | |
| It's just London. | |
| Like, the movement isn't the whole of the US. | |
| It's not. | |
| There were protests. | |
| There were protests in Scotland. | |
| They got counterpro. | |
| There was like 10 people that showed up. | |
| There was one flag in my hometown and then a newspaper wrote about it and someone took it down. | |
| Yeah, it's not like a, like, I respect you. | |
| I respect all of you here. | |
| Please don't listen to the news. | |
| It's or that your statistics because we lived there. | |
| We see it. | |
| There's if you put up a fucking like wait, this is a crazy thing because, like, well, I live in Santa Barbara, which is like one of the highest cost living of cities in California. | |
| And like, things here are mostly the same in Santa Barbara. | |
| But if you look at other regions of California, you look at other places in the United States, immigration, especially legal immigration, absolutely has had impact in communities. | |
| I think USA and the UK is very different because right, but I couldn't look, like, for example, Montecito is like the wealthiest places in the country. | |
| It's just 10 minutes down south. | |
| Oprah Winfrey lives there. | |
| Prince, who's the prince that moved? | |
| Prince Harry lives here with his wife, Megan Markle. | |
| Ellen DeGeneres, who else? | |
| Rob Lowe. | |
| Rob Lowe, a bunch of rich, famous people live just 10 minutes away from here. | |
| 10 minutes away, like Santa Barbara, rich, snazzy, whatever. | |
| Yeah, I can go to the beach in Montecito and everything can look okay, but that doesn't mean that other regions of the state of California or other regions in the U.S. aren't feeling the impact. | |
| So I'm speaking about my country, Scotland, and I'm telling you, there's no problems. | |
| There's no problems in Scotland. | |
| There's problems in Scotland. | |
| I don't know about Scotland. | |
| We don't have a migrant problem. | |
| We don't. | |
| Well, I don't know what the thing is, I don't know about Scotland, but I know in England there's no issue. | |
| I'm in the Midlands, so that's amazing. | |
| There's no problem. | |
| That's great. | |
| Thank you. | |
| But just because we also know people from London. | |
| How many, what's the population of your city? | |
| I don't know the statistic. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| What city are you from? | |
| Manchester. | |
| Wait, Manchester's pretty, pretty big. | |
| Wikipot. | |
| It's not that big to be from Scotland. | |
| I mean, half a million people in Manchester. | |
| Is that big? | |
| You're telling me there's no immigrant. | |
| Okay, there's no immigrants in Manchester. | |
| No, we're not. | |
| We're not saying that. | |
| We're saying, like, what you're seeing on the news, everyone like protesting against them. | |
| It's, we don't actually, like, we don't care. | |
| Do you know, immigrants built Glasgow? | |
| Like, Glasgow's full of immigrants, always has been. | |
| Glasgow invented chicken tikka masala, which is like an Indian dish. | |
| National dishes, Curry. | |
| It is. | |
| Like, we're, we, especially Glasgow, especially Edinburgh, we don't have a problem. | |
| Like, we, we like it. | |
| We like the immigrants. | |
| They're pretty. | |
| Wait, I'm just how. | |
| Okay, so you're saying not an issue. | |
| Like, we don't see it, but actually, yes, there are like. | |
| Of course, there's immigrants. | |
| There's immigrants everywhere. | |
| But, like, it's not an issue. | |
| No one is saying, like, we don't, there's no protests. | |
| There's no, there's obviously there's protests. | |
| There's protests in London. | |
| Yeah, but there's counter-protests against it. | |
| The people that try to protest, especially in Scotland, have been told basically. | |
| Can I ask you a question though? | |
| Let's say, let's say that I'm right on this issue. | |
| And in 50 years' time, the UK, England, Scotland, whatever, it's no longer a white majority country. | |
| Okay. | |
| And it's no longer a Christian country, even. | |
| Never has been. | |
| We're not really that much. | |
| Hold on. | |
| What? | |
| England has never been a Christian country. | |
| Don't you have your own church? | |
| We're not the church of England. | |
| I promise we're not religious. | |
| Well, okay, modern day. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Modern day, but the Protestant. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| Yes, every Sunday. | |
| How can you change? | |
| Well, she's religious. | |
| I go to church. | |
| Everybody is. | |
| There's no one there. | |
| We're not a religious country. | |
| I'm just saying, maybe I'm wrong. | |
| I could be wrong. | |
| But there could be demographic shift in these countries. | |
| Yeah, of course. | |
| And you look at the Scandinavian countries, Sweden, Norway, etc. | |
| They've had massive influxes. | |
| And these are small countries. | |
| I believe Sweden is like around 10 million. | |
| Norway's like three to four million or something like that. | |
| Maybe these are stats from a couple years ago. | |
| They've taken in massive amounts of people, and it's like, well, okay, what does it mean to be Swedish? | |
| What does it mean to be Norwegian? | |
| What does it mean to be British? | |
| I think it just what you make it. | |
| Yeah, it's all about individuality. | |
| Well, can I be Nigerian? | |
| If you want to. | |
| Can I move to Nigeria and become a Nigerian? | |
| That's what you want, babe. | |
| Look, I mean, that's like, I'm from Canada, and if anybody knows anything about Canada, we like preach, live, breathe by multiculturalism. | |
| So in Canada, no way are we like, you know, it needs to be predominantly like white or, I mean, even Indigenous. | |
| I mean, we fucking annihilated Indigenous people just to colonize it. | |
| It was really fucked up. | |
| So nobody in Canada is like, oh, you know, fuck multiculturalism. | |
| But the fact of the matter is, is that our government is letting in literally hundreds of thousands of migrants while forgetting about their own people. | |
| So we're having a lot of different issues. | |
| We're having a housing crisis. | |
| We're having an increase of crimes. | |
| We're having an increase of sexual assaults. | |
| And that's by no means to be like immigration's bad. | |
| I believe in immigration. | |
| I mostly believe in like refugees. | |
| I think as Canadians, I think we should accept people that are fleeing, you know, war, oppression, things like that. | |
| But at the same time, our government needs to take care of the people because they're not. | |
| They're giving all of this money to people who are immigrating here. | |
| We're buying up all the houses and nobody can fucking live. | |
| Like, I make great money and I'm so lucky for that. | |
| But like, what the hell would I do? | |
| Like, I don't know how the average Canadian's living. | |
| They're just not. | |
| So it's not that like immigration's bad and we need like all white people or all people from the original ethnicity. | |
| It's just, I think the point is that like countries need to take care of their own people before giving away all the funds to shit that doesn't even like Scotland specifically. | |
| We do. | |
| We do look after our own people. | |
| Like we have benefit systems. | |
| Like we have homeless shelters. | |
| We have like, it's very rare. | |
| Like they have a housing scheme. | |
| Yeah, there's a housing scheme. | |
| If you're on the streets in Scotland and you need a house, you phone like you phone someone, you get a house. | |
| My brother was homeless. | |
| But what's interesting is in so many of these countries that do have intensive benefit systems in place, like a lot of Europe, a lot of Scandinavia, so long they have existed as a homogeneous society in terms of culture, socioeconomic background, like with the workforce. | |
| There's not the same discrepancy in wealth, in beliefs that perhaps we have in America because this country has been built on the premise of diversity and a melting pot. | |
| And can you see how it could potentially be at risk or the systems that are in place be threatened when you have people coming in that don't necessarily prescribe to the same ideas, values? | |
| And I'm not even speaking in terms of religion because Norway is not religious. | |
| The Scandinavian countries are not religion at all. | |
| But they are hardworking people and they all subscribe to a very similar belief system and contribute equally. | |
| If we are having an influx of a population that is not contributing equally or do not believe equally in the same vision and don't have the same alliance to the system, do you worry about the sustainability of those programs in that country moving forward? | |
| Because now you have a new factor coming in that really throws a wrench into how things have been going on for decades. | |
| So in the UK, if you're an illegal immigrant, you can't actually claim any benefit. | |
| Oh, I'm too far away. | |
| You can't actually claim any benefits if you're illegal in the UK. | |
| So I think everyone, if they are illegal, do cash in hand. | |
| I don't know if you guys say that here. | |
| Like, under the table. | |
| You know what we call it here? | |
| All right. | |
| No, you're good. | |
| Personally, I don't think, I think immigration is good for our economy. | |
| However, I do think overpopulation is an issue because there's not enough houses and house prices are crazy. | |
| But saying that, you can't claim the benefits of the UK if you're illegal. | |
| Yeah, you can. | |
| Okay. | |
| We have a chat here from Van Spencer. | |
| Brian, please check chair two. | |
| I'm in the UK, Manchester, Liverpool, London. | |
| I can even all the people who are in the Birmingham on and on have all fallen. | |
| The Irish built Manchester, for fuck's sakes. | |
| Know your history chair too. | |
| It'd be very, yeah, the Irish. | |
| We love the Irish. | |
| Yeah, there's no beef. | |
| The biggest problem that specifically Scotland has is the English coming in. | |
| I'm not even joking. | |
| There's like a statistic, the sentries love statistics, that Edinburgh University, which is obviously our capital and is a very good university, there's like, I think it's maybe what, like 10% of students there are actually Scottish. | |
| The rest are like English. | |
| Is that considered immigration for you guys if they're all part of the UK? | |
| It's not. | |
| All technically part of the UK. | |
| So you all have the same passport? | |
| Yes. | |
| All right, I got to move on off of this, but okay. | |
| This leads back into our next one. | |
| Women can't be sexist towards men. | |
| So the same sort of framework here. | |
| Can women be sexist towards men? | |
| I mean, I never really thought about that in the way that I thought about the, you know, people of color versus white people, but I will say that, you know, just based on me not thinking about that much, I probably have a similar stance to the white people thing where, I mean, technically you could say something sexist, but it probably wouldn't have the same impact. | |
| It wouldn't have the. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| I think women could be sexist towards men, yeah. | |
| You think they can be sexist? | |
| What do you think? | |
| I mean, sure, they can be. | |
| Yeah, they can be. | |
| That's a good question, but I guess I've never thought about it, but I don't think that a woman can have much of a stance when it comes to her opinion about a man as a man does when it comes to a woman. | |
| So women can't be sexist towards men? | |
| They can? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| But hold on, I'm confused. | |
| Because you differ here. | |
| You say black people can be racist towards white people. | |
| Women can't be sexist towards men. | |
| Yeah, because like, can you give me an example of what that would look like? | |
| A woman being sexist towards a man? | |
| Well, is it your position? | |
| So have women been more oppressed by men than black people have been oppressed by white people? | |
| Okay, can we keep it simple? | |
| Like, are we talking about race or gender? | |
| Well, I just, my confusion here is, look, I suppose people could have two different opinions here, but you say black people can be racist towards white people. | |
| Correct. | |
| But women can't be sexist towards men. | |
| So these two are sort of interlinked a little bit. | |
| Yeah, I don't see how, how could that be synonymous? | |
| Because I'm not really, I don't really know a woman being sexist. | |
| For sure. | |
| I'll give you the example. | |
| So basically, some people will argue that because of oppression or historical racism or historical systemic racism, black people have been oppressed at the hands of white people. | |
| Therefore, and also there's like this prejudice plus power definition of racism. | |
| Racism is prejudice plus power. | |
| If black people don't have systemic power in a country, how can they be racist towards their oppressor, basically? | |
| Okay. | |
| But so you dismiss that, though. | |
| You'd say, well, yes, black people have experienced racism, perhaps more in greater proportion than white people, but despite this, black people can still be racist towards white people. | |
| Well, it'd be then similar because you might say, well, women have been oppressed by men, blah, blah, blah. | |
| Women have been disadvantaged. | |
| I don't think women are oppressed by men, though. | |
| Women can be sexist or can't be. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think that's a good enough answer. | |
| What do you think? | |
| Oh, yeah, I think women can be sexist. | |
| I think they do a better job of branding it. | |
| Like, they call it pro-woman rather than being anti-man, but I think they can be. | |
| What do you think? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, Chloe, what do you think? | |
| Yeah, I think a great example of systemic sexism towards men is the UK's current policy about how they define male victims of domestic violence. | |
| They're currently classified under a bill that's called men and boys who are crimes, who are victims of crimes against women, and it falls against the Domestic Violence Act, basically suggesting that they are women. | |
| There's no category protecting boys and men. | |
| They fall under the category of crimes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about America? | |
| Like you brought up something in the United Kingdom. | |
| I'm not from the United Kingdom. | |
| I'm from America. | |
| So what's the statistics in America about a woman being sexist towards a man? | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Well, I'll give you an example. | |
| I am a landlord and I own in a few different places. | |
| And if I allegedly refuse to rent to men because I said men are dirtier, they're more reckless, they're bad tenants. | |
| And you know what? | |
| I want to give an opportunity to a woman. | |
| Okay. | |
| That is sexist. | |
| Or the man versus bear trend. | |
| I couldn't think of sexist. | |
| Yeah, I couldn't think of an example. | |
| But when you put it like that, okay, a woman can be sexist towards a man. | |
| I just never thought about it. | |
| Yeah, or the man versus bear trend, right? | |
| The ideology. | |
| Because if you replace men. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| If that's an example, then yeah, that is sexist towards a man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| What do you think? | |
| Can a woman be sexist towards men? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| I already established that. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| Yes. | |
| And yes. | |
| Yeah, we went there. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me find where he left off. | |
| You know, but the way that they do it are different, you know, because men and men and women operate differently. | |
| It's not quite the same as race. | |
| Like, women can be sexist in ways or try to attack men in ways that are different from how men inflict discrimination or violence on women. | |
| So the next question is: a mandating or statement, a mandating a transgender woman is straight. | |
| And you agreed with that. | |
| A transgender woman? | |
| What do you think? | |
| I think it, yeah, I agree. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me see what everyone said. | |
| What is a transgender woman again? | |
| Is it a man that became a woman or a woman that became a man? | |
| A man that became a woman. | |
| A man that became a woman. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And that's straight? | |
| The statement is a man dating a transgender woman is straight. | |
| But if that's physically a real man, then how is that straight? | |
| Great question. | |
| Well, that's the question. | |
| That's the premise. | |
| So what do you think? | |
| I think, yeah, it's straight. | |
| Okay, what do you think? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I think it's straight. | |
| I think that's gay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| I don't really know. | |
| I'm not a straight man. | |
| I'm not a transgender woman. | |
| I'd be curious to hear their rationale one way or the other, but I don't know. | |
| They consider do men who can to date trans women consider themselves gay or straight? | |
| I think it would be pansexual. | |
| Most of them consider themselves straight, though. | |
| Because if are they actively like seeking out a girl has like a penis, I don't think that's straight completely. | |
| I mean, if they've transitioned, though, classified as a woman. | |
| Going around still, so what do you think? | |
| It's an abomination. | |
| Fuck all. | |
| Does she want a mic drop? | |
| Make your up. | |
| I wanted to finish off, though, on the women can't be sexist towards men thing. | |
| So it was your position, your position, your position. | |
| Is that? | |
| Oh, no, I agree that women can be sexist. | |
| Oh, women can be sexist. | |
| Just your two positions? | |
| No, I think women can be sexist. | |
| Towards men. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh. | |
| Is it just you then? | |
| Well, I mean, I think that I think it's not exactly like the same comparison, but I think I have a similar thing where, yes, technically you can be sexist, but it still doesn't hold the same weight, so it shouldn't be compared in the same category, I guess. | |
| I disagree. | |
| If you look at domestic violence specifically, statistically, this goes all across the board. | |
| It doesn't matter where you're from. | |
| Statistically, men are believed a lot less. | |
| They are considered weak. | |
| They don't have the ability to be quote-unquote victims the same way that women are because people assume that because you're a man, that you must be stronger. | |
| And so therefore, they're often dismissed in their quote-unquote victimhood, I guess you could say. | |
| So it does, sexism towards men actually does lead to higher addictions rates, homelessness, suicidal ideation, domestic violence. | |
| It does hold the same weight. | |
| It's just not spoken about. | |
| That is true. | |
| A man can't win for losing if it comes to a situation like that. | |
| He damned if he do and he damned if he don't. | |
| Right. | |
| What would you say are some of the because of sexism are some of the negative life outcomes that women experience? | |
| Because of sexism, how does sexism affect women, basically? | |
| Sure. | |
| I mean, just in the same... | |
| I feel like I mostly covered this when we were talking about whatever... | |
| What was the question before when I was talking about, oh, are you a feminist? | |
| It's just sort of the same reasons. | |
| Like, I think that women are respected less. | |
| I think that women are. | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| I feel like I talked about that. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, one thing I want to say is I think that sometimes sexism can work out tremendously in the favor of women because women are, if women are underestimated, right? | |
| Like you said before, one of the greatest advantages is if people think you're dumb, then they're going to underestimate you. | |
| I mean, I've personally done business with men that I can tell, like, okay, they don't respect me as much because I'm a woman. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I actually have no problem with that because it is fundamentally easier to negotiate or persuade a man who believes that you are incapable of being just as smart as them. | |
| I think in like a really weird way, sexism, like blatant true sexism, where a man thinks I'm better than all these bitches and they're incapable of any brain activity and they're not capable of being smart for some women, that is such an advantage because you are able to take advantage of that weakness and for the fact you are going to be underestimated. | |
| I don't know if anybody put it in the middle of the moment. | |
| I definitely think there is a way to look at that as advantage, but I also think that still that's just using somebody else's power for your own benefit and it's not really the same thing. | |
| Or somebody else's weakness. | |
| Wait, it's not really the same as having your own power. | |
| I mean, that's just how I view it. | |
| I do see how you can view that as an advantage, though. | |
| Yeah, I think anybody that's not aware of their weaknesses makes them weak in the first place. | |
| Wait, so is one of your things here like women are just viewed as stupid? | |
| Is like that's your contention? | |
| I mean, that's putting it bluntly, but in some ways, sure. | |
| Yeah, I guess what do you think is worse, though? | |
| So if women are viewed as stupid, and I think there's, I actually dispute this, but if this is actually true, then men are viewed as what? | |
| By who? | |
| Other women. | |
| Or, well, women, yeah. | |
| What are men viewed as if women are viewed as stupid? | |
| I'll answer. | |
| I don't really understand. | |
| Men are viewed as monsters. | |
| They're viewed as predatory innately. | |
| They're viewed as dangerous. | |
| They're viewed. | |
| Well, that's because a lot of men are dangerous. | |
| I would argue, even if we grant that women are not respected as much as men are, I think it's quite disrespectful to paint an entire gender, 50% of the population, as dangerous, violent, predatory, all these sorts of things. | |
| i think that that's a worse characterization than being character i would rather be hold on sorry i I would rather be characterized as stupid and be treated with a lack of respect than be treated with fear, be treated as if I'm violent or a predator or any of these sorts of things. | |
| If I had to choose between the two, I would trade places instantly, at least for that dynamic. | |
| I would absolutely trade. | |
| Well, first of all, I made that point about women, but I didn't make that point about men. | |
| I never said that I've sorry, go ahead, go ahead. | |
| What? | |
| Oh, no, I was just going to say it's like pretty mainstream feminists. | |
| Sure, but I'm just saying that's not what I said. | |
| But I also. | |
| But you don't think that men are dangerous? | |
| I do think men are dangerous. | |
| Well, okay, hold on. | |
| So it is what you said. | |
| But I didn't. | |
| You said that without me having said that before. | |
| You're making your menu. | |
| Of course, I assumed it because, I mean, you're a feminist, and I rightly assumed. | |
| So, I mean, we can pick up. | |
| But I don't think all men are dangerous, but I do think that there is realistic, like, if you want to start pulling. | |
| Well, I don't think they're stupid. | |
| What? | |
| I'm just using your logic. | |
| But I'm not making a point about women. | |
| I'm talking about myself right now. | |
| I don't view all men as dangerous, of course. | |
| I have a brother. | |
| I have a dad. | |
| They're nice people. | |
| Right. | |
| I have a mom. | |
| I have a sister. | |
| I don't view all women as stupid. | |
| But do you feel like you're not? | |
| Okay, good. | |
| What are you? | |
| I'm talking about myself. | |
| Why are you keep saying the opposite of what I'm saying? | |
| You were saying how, you know, an example of sexism towards women is that people view them as stupid or inept or, you know, they get treated with less respect than men do. | |
| And my counter to that is, okay, even granting if that's, I dispute it to some degree, but even granting it's true, I would say, well, men are viewed as violent, as predatory, as dangerous, as all these sorts of things. | |
| And I think that that's like, in terms of sexism, if we're like doing a comparison of sexism, that's way worse than being viewed as stupid. | |
| Well, I would say that the statistic about men being dangerous is based on more statistics and fact and reality than women being stupid. | |
| Well then, hold on. | |
| I could use, hold on. | |
| First, hold on. | |
| I can make that same exact argument towards women's intelligence then. | |
| With what statistics? | |
| Oh, okay, for example, the fact like chess is a game of chess is strictly a game of intelligence. | |
| Women are just for chess has been available for women for hundreds of years, we'll just say decades. | |
| None of them are able to compete with men when it comes to children. | |
| Well, that's not true. | |
| There are plenty of amazing women chess players. | |
| None of them can beat like the number one grand master. | |
| Sure. | |
| But there are still a lot of brilliant women who are. | |
| What is it called? | |
| Yeah, sure, there's female grand masters, but none of them can beat the men. | |
| Well, I mean, I think that the top men, I should say. | |
| But that's one example. | |
| I don't think that that is like asserts the fact that women are stupider than men. | |
| That's just one thing. | |
| I also don't think that chess represents the general representation of all people because the average person, at least in the United States, is does not, I don't think, you know, if we're reading at a fourth grade reading level, they don't possess the intelligence to be a chess man. | |
| The average man in the United States is not a violent criminal who assaults women and rapes them. | |
| So where you're making, I feel like you're making false. | |
| No, where you're getting lost is he's making an equivalent, right? | |
| He's saying that like, you know, sexism towards women could say like women are just dumb, right? | |
| And there's he's trying to make a comparison because you said that men are like mostly dangerous, and that's just statistically not true. | |
| That's no, I don't think men are mostly dangerous, but I think that you said that. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| You said you were citing to crime statistics. | |
| Right. | |
| And thank you. | |
| And statistically, it's a false narrative, especially like we'll talk U.S. because we're in the U.S., but it kind of grows across the board. | |
| Like women are the number one perpetrators overwhelmingly of abuse against children. | |
| They murder their children the most. | |
| The domestic violence rate is almost 50-50 with women actually perpetrating a little bit more. | |
| So the point is, is that statistically, it wouldn't add up that like men are more inherently dangerous than women. | |
| Just like statistically, it wouldn't necessarily add up that like women are dumber. | |
| That's true. | |
| But I will say that, well, I would think that there's, you know, the thing about women being stupid, like, there's not that bad. | |
| No, no, no, I know. | |
| Just to be clear. | |
| There's not like statistics about that. | |
| Nobody goes out and does. | |
| But nobody goes out and does, oh, are you stupid? | |
| Like, there are certain things that you can look to and be like, oh, this is a hint of women's intelligence versus men. | |
| I mean, you can drive IQ testing. | |
| Yeah, but the whole public isn't going to go do that. | |
| But it depends how you interpret the IQ data. | |
| But there is data based on, A, men are the majority perpetrators of sexual assault. | |
| But also, and listen, domestic violence is terrible from anybody. | |
| And if it's true, I don't know the statistics. | |
| If it's true that it's 50-50, that makes sense. | |
| But also, because I said before, and you asked this question, do I think that men are physically stronger than women? | |
| I do. | |
| And so there is more of a threat from men for domestic violence. | |
| But men don't actually, like, men don't, they don't commit the majority of sex crimes. | |
| They commit the majority of sex crimes against children. | |
| That is, that is a fact. | |
| I think that men do commit the majority of sex crimes. | |
| The data isn't accurate because there's a lack. | |
| Number one, there's a lack of funding. | |
| There's a lack of research. | |
| There's societal norms that would state that a man is just gay if he doesn't like it. | |
| I mean, there's a lot of people who are. | |
| Which couldn't you argue there's a lack of recording thing here? | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's jurisdiction dependent, but in certain jurisdictions, and I couldn't tell you which specific one, but if we look it up, we can definitely find it. | |
| So there's this, you know, I don't know, they say 97% of rapes are committed by men. | |
| But if you look at the definition of what rape is, if in that definition, it would make it essentially impossible for a woman to commit the crime. | |
| So for example, a component, and again, different states, different countries define rape differently. | |
| But in a lot of these jurisdictions, in order to be found guilty of rape, there has to be a penetration, not forced to, not what's the term, made to penetrate, would not constitute a rape. | |
| Now, legally speaking, from a criminal perspective, now from a societal perspective, we might still categorize this as rape. | |
| Like if a woman forced a man to insert himself into her or something like that, we might societally deem it as that, hey, you've just been raped. | |
| But like from a legal perspective, from a crime perspective, if the actual crime itself is in order to commit a rape, you must penetrate another person's body. | |
| Well, women. | |
| And it doesn't state you rape classifies as being forced to penetrate, then you have a disparity in stats. | |
| Right. | |
| But it's this sort of like, well, if women definitionally and anatomically can't commit the crime of rape, well, of course, then you're going to see these statistics that would, it's a great talking point for feminists. | |
| Well, okay, 97% of men commit rape. | |
| Well, okay, again, if women can't like legally, if the, if those, if that if a legal definition doesn't recognize women as rapists, then of course that's definitely true. | |
| And I've heard that before, and I think that's a really valid point. | |
| I still think with those parameters that men commit more sex crimes than women do. | |
| That may very well be true, but it's worth pointing out that these sort of buzzword statistics or whatever are not fairly representing, you know, kind of what's actually going on. | |
| For example, all these female teachers who are having sex, who are having sex with, you know, high school boys or whatever. | |
| Raping. | |
| Let's use the correct terminology here. | |
| It's not consensual. | |
| Yes, I would say it's that, but the actual crime they're charged with is some other form of sexual assault. | |
| Sexual cohort. | |
| You know, maybe they're charged with like a statutory rape or something, but they're not actually like the actual act itself would not be categorized for statistic purposes as an actual rape, but there's rampant, rampant amount. | |
| And I think it's actually for that specific thing where you see a teacher and a student. | |
| It's overwhelmingly women, female teachers, who are having sex with their students. | |
| Yeah, and if you look at even how the news, I just did a like a big video on this on YouTube like a couple months ago, pointing out how the news reports sex crimes. | |
| Whenever it's a male teacher molesting a female student, it's always like teacher arrested for like rape. | |
| And it's always like a photo of them that's like very unflattering. | |
| They look like criminals. | |
| But every, almost every single time it's a female teacher against a male student, the rhetoric changes. | |
| It's no longer teacher arrested for like rape. | |
| It's like teacher had sexual relationship with the kid. | |
| And like the terminology changes because there's an implication of consent. | |
| And that's the issue, especially with this whole ideology that men commit sex crimes more than women. | |
| It's just not true. | |
| We're just not recognizing it. | |
| Like every single guy friend that I have, if you ask, and I want you, you're in college, so I want you to like remember this conversation and start asking the men around you, even just like when they lost their virginity. | |
| And you'll find that the majority of them will have a story where it's like you'll listen to it and you'll be like, ain't you a victim? | |
| Like most of them are like, oh, I lost it at 10, 11 years old to like this 20 year old. | |
| And it's insane. | |
| Male bouncers, you talk to male bouncers on how many women they have to like drag out each night because they're walking up, they're groping men. | |
| We don't have this. | |
| We have this ideology of masculinity. | |
| I would just say you're right. | |
| And that creates a rape culture against men where if we're not even recognizing that they can be victims because they have to be bigger, because the assault has to be violent, if we have all of these, I can't remember the word, but like what's the word when there's like a basis for something? | |
| Justification? | |
| Wait. | |
| No, no, I can't remember it right now, but guidelines. | |
| If we have all these guidelines of what classify, sure, yeah, of what classifies a sexual assault, there's a huge, like, there's a huge difference there. | |
| And as women, we can understand this because a lot of times, you know, when we talk about SA or something, if it's not violent, like if we're coerced, if we're, you know, if we got drunk, like there are a lot of people that don't recognize it as SA. | |
| So if you're a gender that is stigmatized to be strong, to not be weak, to always want sex, you're breeding a culture of like misandry and a culture where men can be taken advantage of, and they are. | |
| I just think the truth is the world is easier on women. | |
| So it's easier for women to get away with it. | |
| That's just the truth. | |
| But it's more protective. | |
| But what women is that women try to compete with a man? | |
| And I don't think that's what women should do. | |
| I think that a man should be in a man's place and a woman should stay in a woman's place. | |
| And I think that's the problem with today's generation and where it's going wrong. | |
| Because that's it. | |
| You know what's interesting? | |
| There is a case of a guy, I don't know his name exactly, but he was doing really well in school and he had all kinds of football scholarships offered to him. | |
| And then these two girls accused him of rape and he was in prison for a couple years and lost all everyone lost respect for him. | |
| He didn't, you know, obviously they're not going to give him a scholarship back. | |
| And then the two girls ended up confessing, yeah, we were lying. | |
| He didn't do any of that. | |
| And I felt so bad for him because he was crying in the courtroom, like on the table. | |
| And that's what's actually dangerous about AI as well and deepfakes is because there's potential for accusing men by using their photos. | |
| It's, you know, like I think that is definitely a good point. | |
| That definitely happens, but I think that that's. | |
| But women don't really have to worry about that all the time. | |
| So, I mean, I used to be a secretary of a church, and my pastor, he was even cautious about being in the same room with me, just us two alone. | |
| And I can understand that. | |
| Like, he has a wife. | |
| He has children. | |
| His wife was my best friend, one of the closest persons to my heart that I've ever met. | |
| And their children were like my children. | |
| They call me their auntie. | |
| But he was even so cautious about it that he put cameras up around everywhere. | |
| Well, that is also, he still got accusations toward him in that way. | |
| And unfortunately, he wasn't, he was, he's gone from the church. | |
| To have to live with that all the time in fear of that kind of stuff, like I understand, yes, there's problems both in the men camp and the women camp, but it's almost like nobody's immune to these kind of destructions. | |
| Of course not. | |
| Well, that thing about the priest, first of all, that's terrible. | |
| But it also comes from the fact that there's been a history of molestation and stuff in the Catholic Church specifically, but also just in church and grandfather was one of them. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So there is like this things like this are based off of history. | |
| And going back to what you were saying before, obviously, I'm not going to dispute the fact that men can be assaulted. | |
| Men get assaulted all the time. | |
| But it goes back again to my point about physical stature and stuff that what you were saying about aggression, there is just not, there's just not the same threat of aggression from women as there is for men. | |
| But the domestic violence rate is 50-50. | |
| So statistically, that's untrue. | |
| In fact, women actually are self-reported. | |
| They can report committing, women have the higher rate of self-reporting domestic violence that was not retaliated back. | |
| Like it wasn't like, you know, she hit her, he hit him. | |
| It's like completely unprovoked and no retaliation. | |
| I just don't think that the harm that women can inflict is equal to the harm that men can inflict. | |
| So are you saying domestic violence is domestic violence isn't as bad against men? | |
| Or is it as bad? | |
| But what I'm talking about, what you said about aggression and about how men are viewed as aggressive, it's because of what they're capable of. | |
| Women can get away with a lot more shits. | |
| So I wouldn't necessarily say that women are not as aggressive just because nobody's speaking out about it. | |
| And statistically, here in America, men, statistically, do three to four times longer in prison for the exact same crime that a woman committed. | |
| So look, my point is, is like, you know, you're young, you're 18. | |
| Like, I feel like the youth are like, they're our future. | |
| And so I just want to, if you can leave this conversation with anything, I just want you to open your mind just a little bit to the male experience and maybe just open to the fact that like men, you don't have to be afraid of them. | |
| You don't have to, because statistically in America, again, 0.002% of men will ever commit a violent crime. | |
| So I don't want you, I feel like it's a disservice to women to have to walk around and feel like afraid, to feel like the average man is just going to attack us and hurt us. | |
| And it's just statistically not true. | |
| And I don't want you to carry that weight. | |
| I want to change your mind on that. | |
| There's pain on both sides, for sure. | |
| A couple things here, guys. | |
| We've lowered the TTS to $69 if you want to get it in. | |
| $69 TTS.streamlines.com slash whatever. | |
| Also, really quick, wanted to finish up on a couple of topics here. | |
| Really quick, just on the intelligence thing. | |
| So, Nick, can you pull up the greater male variability hypothesis? | |
| So, as it relates to intelligence, so the IQ on average between men and women is the same. | |
| Yeah. | |
| On average. | |
| But there is this hypothesis that there is a greater variability. | |
| Click on that chart, Nick. | |
| So what this is displaying, so women is blue, green is men. | |
| What it's saying is, is that there's way more really, really, really stupid men, but there's also way more really, really, really, really smart men. | |
| But there's more women who are in the middle. | |
| Just thought I'd share that. | |
| It's a hypothesis, though, you know? | |
| So basically, what that means is there's more stupid men. | |
| Like really stupid men. | |
| Way more. | |
| But there's also way more genius men. | |
| But on average, average it out. | |
| There are a lot of violent men, but there are way more that aren't. | |
| It's the same thing. | |
| Same statistics. | |
| Yeah, men are naturally violent creatures anyway. | |
| So that's not. | |
| Yes, they are. | |
| Some of you guys all are violent and y'all back then y'all had to go out and hunt for food. | |
| So y'all telling me that's not violent? | |
| That's holy. | |
| Y'all have to be because that's a man's nature to be. | |
| Since it's a dating podcast, I just want to say real quick, it is really attractive when a guy is like stupidly, humorously funny. | |
| Like, yeah. | |
| It's the most attractive thing in the world. | |
| Let me try to get your match. | |
| Okay, we have a couple chats here. | |
| One sec. | |
| Dave Richards says, Brian Richards donated $100. | |
| Brian, why equivocate and say both men and women are equally superior? | |
| As my Iran says, men are superior to women in everything. | |
| No need to be PC about it. | |
| Women have big ego because of passive men. | |
| Who is Mari? | |
| He's from the fucking, but stupid panel. | |
| What's it called? | |
| He basketball. | |
| That's the one that you looked like as a man. | |
| What's their name? | |
| He came out to talk shit about people when they're not hearing. | |
| I mean, I'll do it. | |
| Anyways, okay, so disavow, I guess. | |
| We have Vaughn. | |
| Is this enough? | |
| 150 pounds. | |
| Is this enough to kick Timu Jessica rabbit in chair two? | |
| The misinformation would have her arrested in the UK. | |
| Oh, yeah, people just get arrested for like tweets and shit. | |
| Are you kidding me? | |
| What's it? | |
| No, one woman got arrested because she says to Barton Day in a hotel and they burnt down the hotel. | |
| So she got arrested. | |
| Okay, maybe there's cases of that, but people literally. | |
| No one's getting arrested. | |
| Yes, people get arrested for tweets. | |
| You don't have free speech in that country. | |
| Yes, we do. | |
| I can see that. | |
| You don't. | |
| No, you don't. | |
| Okay, Count Dankula. | |
| Do you know who that is? | |
| No. | |
| I believe. | |
| So, okay. | |
| I'm not avowing what he did, but he had a pug, a little dog pug. | |
| Fuck it. | |
| Find the video. | |
| Nick, find the Count Dankula pug video. | |
| This is I disagree with it. | |
| Where is this going? | |
| But what he did was, is he trained his pug dog to what did he do? | |
| Like, okay, he would say to give the Roman salute like a dog, raise his paw when he said sigh heil. | |
| Jesus. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Anything that's kind of kids? | |
| Huh? | |
| And that's good. | |
| I'm not saying it's good. | |
| I don't think you should be arrested for a joke. | |
| Okay, but here, I want to relate that to something here. | |
| Because one thing in Canada, we're a little bit baffled at the fact that people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death are getting like fired. | |
| Like Jimmy Kimmel just got fired for a joke. | |
| Now, do I agree that people should be celebrating his death? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| But as Canadians, we're like, aren't y'all the country of free speech? | |
| Why are people getting fired? | |
| Yeah. | |
| I didn't know that was happening. | |
| I don't think that it's right by any means. | |
| And I think that a business has a right to say, look, you don't align with our beliefs and we want to kick you out, but I'm just saying, isn't that a little... | |
| Also, Scots law is very different from England law. | |
| We have different laws. | |
| I think that both the conservatives and the liberals can dish it, but they can't take it because, you know, the liberals are, oh, you can't say that. | |
| And then finally, when somebody dies and they're making a mockery of it, now the conservatives are like, you can't say that. | |
| It's just a bunch of pointing the finger, and nobody is like actually making sense. | |
| See, this is why I hate that we got off on a bad foot because I agree with so much of what you're saying. | |
| I actually think you're really intelligent. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| I agree. | |
| People, there's like, I think, thousands of arrests per year for tweets in the UK. | |
| Are they inciting? | |
| Are they inciting terrorism? | |
| Because in Canada, like, you can't. | |
| The New York Post says 12,000. | |
| The New York. | |
| Yeah, pull it up, Nick. | |
| Pull it up. | |
| You know, the only American fucking thing. | |
| 12,000, where data suggests over 30 people a day are arrested for speech crimes. | |
| There's not even that many people in Glasgow. | |
| About 12,000 a year. | |
| Girl. | |
| Sending grossly offensive. | |
| Can we click on that link to the New York Post? | |
| 12,000 a year. | |
| That would make sense. | |
| Yeah, get rid of the pop-ups and all that shit. | |
| But it's not true. | |
| An American. | |
| Graham Linehan, an Irish comedy writer, was just arrested for tweets in the UK. | |
| Shut up, chair two. | |
| I don't know. | |
| By the way, guys, $69 TTS, $69 TTS. | |
| Get them in if you want. | |
| People be getting arrested in the UK. | |
| Okay, but moving on. | |
| Oh, this is important. | |
| We should define this because, I mean, we're talking about dating, but there's a lot of confusion here. | |
| What is a woman? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Gosh. | |
| I don't have a ready definition. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, we're just because we're talking about dating, we're talking about all this stuff, feminism, women's advocacy, we should know what a woman is, right? | |
| Okay, what does this mean? | |
| This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I believe that if you identify yourself as a woman, then you're a woman. | |
| Okay, what's your definition? | |
| Same. | |
| I'm a woman. | |
| These old people are women. | |
| We don't know if they have a deck or not. | |
| Okay. | |
| It is the way you are born. | |
| It is the way you are born. | |
| I don't want to have to keep reminding y'all. | |
| It's the way you're born in your chromosomes. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| If you identify as a woman, you are a woman. | |
| Okay. | |
| Somebody who has two X chromosomes, a pussy, and a uterus. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I would say somebody that has two X chromosomes because there are conditions where women have to get their uterus removed. | |
| That still makes them a woman. | |
| An adult human female. | |
| Chloe, can you scoot the mic just to the edge of the table? | |
| It's all good. | |
| Wow. | |
| At risk of ruffling the Canadian liberals, a woman is somebody who was born with a vagina and a uterus. | |
| Shoot me. | |
| Don't say it. | |
| I agree with a woman is an adult human female. | |
| What does that mean, though, Brian? | |
| Because anybody can label themselves as an adult human female. | |
| Can I label myself as a black person? | |
| No. | |
| So I'm just saying, you saying an adult female, so you're saying a male can't label themselves as a female. | |
| Now, there's dispute over gender. | |
| So what I'm referring to, when I say male and female, I'm using my words very precisely. | |
| I'm referring to sex. | |
| Male and female relates to sex. | |
| Man, even granting this gender identity stuff, relates to genders like man, woman. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But so when I say, but so my position is a woman is an adult human female. | |
| Awkward. | |
| It just got really awkward. | |
| No, we agree. | |
| I think that. | |
| Well, I don't think it's awkward. | |
| I think people just have different opinions. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| I believe in trans rights. | |
| That's why I believe that if you identify as a woman, you're a woman. | |
| Well, I just want to piggyback saying, I believe in trans women. | |
| Like, I believe that that is an identity and that is how people live. | |
| I'm not denying the existence of trans people, but I think there are women and there are trans women. | |
| Yeah, that's correct. | |
| There's a difference there, I think. | |
| In Canada specifically, we're pretty liberal. | |
| We're like California. | |
| That's why everybody hates us. | |
| But I think that we, you know, we'll respect pronouns for sure. | |
| Like, nobody's, I'm not going to look at somebody that clearly looks like a woman and be like, nah, you're a dude just because she decided to tell me that she used to have a dick. | |
| I think it's very dependent on where you are in your transition. | |
| I don't think that a man should be able to just like slab on some lipstick and wear a dress and ask for special privileges. | |
| I think that where you are in your transition and whether or not, you know, you can just tell whether or not it's genuine. | |
| Like I, you know, I had a trans friend. | |
| I didn't know she was trans for like four years, dude. | |
| I had no idea. | |
| She was more woman than me. | |
| So I support it. | |
| You just got to actually be trans. | |
| Base Thor. | |
| Base Thor donated $69. | |
| Question for the panel. | |
| Which one do you think was worst for society? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| The 13th Amendment or 19th Amendment. | |
| The 13th Amendment, which ended slavery, and the 19th Amendment, which gave women suffering. | |
| That's a crazy question. | |
| Base Thor, thank you, funny. | |
| Thank you for the money, though. | |
| I don't know what any of that means. | |
| So, base Thor, are you in favor of slavery? | |
| Like, yeah, what are you suggesting? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What was worse for society? | |
| It's just like kind of smuggles in that those things were not white. | |
| I'm pretty sure he's also used to him. | |
| He's not even white. | |
| Okay. | |
| Maybe, I don't know, whatever. | |
| Extra confusion. | |
| Okay, final few things from the questionnaire, then we'll get into some of the pre-show notes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Women, do you agree with the following statement? | |
| Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA? | |
| I think on paper, in some ways, they do. | |
| I think that it's not always executed equally, and so I would say no. | |
| No, they don't have equal rights. | |
| Okay, what would be an example of a right then? | |
| That women have a lot of people. | |
| Well, okay, if you're talking about just legislatively, then I would say yes, because I can't dispute the fact that so you would say women do have equal rights then. | |
| I guess so. | |
| But again, I don't think it's always like... | |
| Well, what would be an example of it not being executed properly? | |
| Well, like, technically, like, this is just the first example that popped into my head, but like, technically, you know, there's discrimination in the workplace doesn't exist. | |
| Like, women have to be hired equally as men, whatever. | |
| But that doesn't always happen. | |
| And again, back to the like women being stupid thing, I think that oftentimes men have more advantage in getting. | |
| Can I ask you a question? | |
| If a woman-owned business, say it was a big corporation, very successful, do you think there would be any issues with them only wanting to hire women? | |
| Like, would that be wrong? | |
| Well, I mean, I feel like I'd have to hear the reasoning. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Let's say the same reasoning that women might. | |
| How about this? | |
| Women are just scared of men. | |
| Like a woman who owns a business, she had a bad experience with men. | |
| And for this reason, she's like, you know what? | |
| I only want to hire women. | |
| I think that, sure. | |
| That's okay. | |
| That wouldn't. | |
| You wouldn't have an issue with that? | |
| I wouldn't have an issue with that. | |
| So then what's stopping companies then? | |
| You would have to grant it the other way too, then. | |
| Then men can be like, you know what? | |
| I've had some bad experiences with women. | |
| I'd prefer to work with men. | |
| You'd have to say that that's totally fine also. | |
| I guess so. | |
| Okay, well, then doesn't that kind of defeat your position that there's like sexism in hiring practices? | |
| If it's okay for just this sort of reason to just hire men or just hire women, then what are your objections to hiring practices? | |
| Well, I mean, I'm that's a very specific hypothetical. | |
| And I think that in that situation, obviously, it would have to go both ways. | |
| But I think just in general, and I don't know. | |
| Again, this is just the first example that came to my head. | |
| But like, I don't have the statistics on it or whatever. | |
| But I think that it probably happens more in the favor of men. | |
| Happens more in the favor of men. | |
| I don't know. | |
| It could, although I would say, like, if you look at HR departments, they're predominated by women. | |
| A lot of these major companies have hiring managers, predominantly women. | |
| It seems like a little strange that this could even be the case. | |
| And then, like, I don't know. | |
| What about, I guess, do you think that there's sexism in academia? | |
| Like, the fact that the university you're about to go to disproportionately female students? | |
| Well, I mean, that could be based on anything, though. | |
| Well, couldn't you say that when women historically were not as represented in universities? | |
| Well, but there was reasons for that. | |
| Well, it depends how far back you go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But why is it the case that? | |
| Well, I have no idea. | |
| I mean, I didn't even know that. | |
| I have no idea what that could be. | |
| But yeah, so the breakdown in colleges, I think it's like 60-40. | |
| Women to men? | |
| Yeah. | |
| In all colleges? | |
| Oh, well, some are different, of course, but some you might even find a greater, like even 65% education disproportionately right now. | |
| Way more women go to college. | |
| And if a metric of going to university is this is going to have better life outcomes for you, you're going to get an education that's valued. | |
| You're going to earn more, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| It seems like women do have some advantage there just on the pure numbers that there's way more women going to university than there are men. | |
| Well, sure, but I don't know. | |
| I don't necessarily know what that's based off of, though. | |
| And I don't know that based on workplace either. | |
| Again, I don't want, like, take what I just said with a grain of salt because I really don't know any of the statistics. | |
| Well, it's just always interesting to me. | |
| If a bad thing happens to a woman, there's this drive to want to make it about sex or about sexism. | |
| Like, bad thing happened to woman, must be sexism. | |
| But if bad thing happened to man, then we give a lot more agency to the individual where it's like, well, what, well, why, you know, what are they doing? | |
| I agree with that. | |
| Statistically, men take up the majority of the suicide rate, the homeless rate, the addictions rate, the workplace death rate, majority to get killed by police. | |
| They're falling behind in education. | |
| I mean, it's actually grotesque. | |
| And if this all was happening to women, I refuse to accept that there wouldn't be like mass marches all over the world and be like, this is due to sexism. | |
| Like, we're forgetting about women. | |
| We're leaving them behind. | |
| So I agree with you. | |
| I think that's a great example of it. | |
| I mean, this also happens along racial lines also, where if a bad thing happens to a person, people want to, either the individual themselves or outsiders or members of that in-group want to jump and say it must be racism. | |
| It's like you need actual people who must have done something to deserve it. | |
| Well, I think part of that both in racism and in sexism, I mean, I think part of it stems from the fact that like our country was built by white men. | |
| And so like it is easier to turn to that. | |
| I'm not saying it's true. | |
| Obviously, a bad thing happens to a woman doesn't mean it was sexism. | |
| But it's easier to turn to that and be like, oh, this is racism because of how the system was set up, or oh, this is sexism because of how the system was set up. | |
| Well, yeah, but you need actual evidence for like, I don't know, women will say, well, I didn't get hired or I, you know, whatever, I didn't get the raise or whatever. | |
| And they'll immediately jump to, or bad thing happened to me, immediately jump to sexism. | |
| Must be due to sexism. | |
| But there needs to actually be evidence. | |
| Well, I don't necessarily know that that's true. | |
| I don't know women who do that. | |
| You don't know women, just like the whole feminist movement. | |
| That whole thing. | |
| Well, that's they. | |
| Bad thing happens. | |
| That's totally different. | |
| Well, can I ask you a question? | |
| So let's look at incarceration or crimes, right? | |
| So men, as compared to women, serve longer sentences. | |
| Chloe brought this up. | |
| They serve longer sentences. | |
| They're more likely to be prosecuted. | |
| They're less likely to receive, you know, kind of get off light. | |
| You know, women are much more likely to receive a sentence of probation, whereas men are going to receive like some jail time. | |
| Obviously, it depends on the crime. | |
| Men will serve longer. | |
| I don't know if I already said that. | |
| Men will serve longer sentences for the same crime, same circumstances, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| So if you look at that from a racial lens, it becomes, well, hold on, black people, they serve more time for these crimes. | |
| They're more likely to be prosecuted. | |
| They're more like, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| And it's like, well, hold on. | |
| Why aren't we looking at the disproportion between men and women in the same way that we look at that through a racial lens? | |
| Why aren't we saying, well, hold on. | |
| And actually, the difference that exists between men and women when it comes to sentencing, it's orders of magnitude greater. | |
| If you look at the disproportionality between prison sentences between whites and blacks, that number is way bigger if you compare men to women. | |
| Wouldn't you say the irony of that, though, is that is probably also a result of sexism where a judge or a jury looks at a woman and thinks, oh, this woman possibly can't be as violent, as evil, as capable. | |
| That's called balevolent sexism. | |
| Benevolent. | |
| Yeah, benevolent sexism. | |
| So women receive certain benefits, privileges, and then men get harsher punishments. | |
| But hold on. | |
| Okay, just moving it on to, I guess, women do not have equal rights to men in the USA. | |
| Do you, I don't know if you. | |
| Respectfully, I can't believe I can comment. | |
| i don't think you you didn't even circle for that um i don't know if there's anybody else who you didn't fill the questionnaire Do you think women do not have equal rights to men in the USA? | |
| I think women have fought for their rights and they got them. | |
| They have them. | |
| Yeah, they got their equal rights. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Do you think women are oppressed in the USA? | |
| Are they oppressed? | |
| Are they oppressed? | |
| Yes. | |
| I mean. | |
| Historically, yes. | |
| I would say it's definitely getting better. | |
| Let's just say today. | |
| To some level. | |
| I mean, the truth is, again, like it goes back to the fact about how the country was built by white men. | |
| It's always going to be more suited for white men. | |
| Like, how is it more suited for white men? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I can't think of examples. | |
| Like, I think today, and I mean, I can even make historical claims, that the negative life outcomes that men and women face, those seem to actually disproportionately be worse for men. | |
| Yeah, the suicide rate and addiction, white men actually take up the majority. | |
| White men are also the majority to be denied custody fairly to their children. | |
| Stefano. | |
| I think the world was built by men for women, so I don't think a woman is oppressed. | |
| Any woman that's struggling nowadays, that's her fault. | |
| Because we got the cheat code. | |
| We got it real easy. | |
| So I don't think any woman should be struggling. | |
| And I don't think any woman is oppressed. | |
| Not in today's world. | |
| And not even back then, because even back then, if you take all that is modern straight away, we will still, all we had to do was cook and clean, and a man would do everything else. | |
| I don't think that's a hard knock life. | |
| I don't. | |
| Well, but people have different opinions about that. | |
| And if that's the life you want to live, that's totally fine. | |
| Correct. | |
| But if you weren't provided with the opportunity to be able to work, I would say my ass at home. | |
| I would say that's what I'm saying. | |
| Well, that's fine. | |
| Shut the fuck up. | |
| That's what a woman is supposed to do. | |
| Damn. | |
| Texas does raise an interesting point here. | |
| And I would say that, like, if we went back to, say, 1914, women in 1914 didn't have the right to vote. | |
| But also from, ah, man, this, wait, hold on. | |
| Before I get into this, I need to ask one question. | |
| What year, what years were World War I? | |
| World War I was 19, like 1910s. | |
| I'll accept decade. | |
| World War. | |
| Let's just do decade. | |
| What decade? | |
| I have no clue. | |
| Guess. | |
| Bro, I have no clue. | |
| I don't even care. | |
| Wild guess. | |
| World War I. What decade? | |
| You don't have to, yeah. | |
| Just decade or century? | |
| Decade. | |
| So, decade, 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s. | |
| Just guess. | |
| Wild guess. | |
| Quick. | |
| 1841. | |
| Okay, love it. | |
| I'll be honest. | |
| I'm not a history man. | |
| Just a guess. | |
| Just guess. | |
| Decade. | |
| Scoot your mic. | |
| Please, just leave it there. | |
| It's right here. | |
| Scoot your mic to the edge of the table. | |
| She's doing her best, man. | |
| All right, go ahead. | |
| Yes. | |
| Decade. | |
| 1920 to 20s. | |
| Okay. | |
| 1910s. | |
| Okay. | |
| The early 1900s. | |
| So like the 1910s, the 10s. | |
| Okay. | |
| It's the 1910s. | |
| 1914 to 1918. | |
| Period. | |
| I'm Canadian. | |
| I don't fucking know that. | |
| I know what the Second World War was. | |
| I don't know if we were involved in the first war. | |
| I think Canada sent some soldiers. | |
| I don't know about Canada. | |
| I don't know how you did. | |
| Does Canada even be a country beef? | |
| Canada. | |
| No, no, we don't beep anybody. | |
| Okay. | |
| The only country we've beeped in the last like 30 years is you guys recently. | |
| And then just as a follow-up. | |
| Like 1920s. | |
| I love the grassy. | |
| Primary decade of World War II. | |
| 40s? | |
| 40s? | |
| The 1840s or 1940s? | |
| 90s? | |
| Okay. | |
| 1940s. | |
| 50s. | |
| 50s? | |
| Okay. | |
| Didn't it roll over into the 50s? | |
| Yeah. | |
| 1940s to 67. | |
| 1930 to the 40s. | |
| Okay. | |
| 1940s. | |
| It ended in 45. | |
| 1939 to 1945. | |
| Yeah, same. | |
| Like 1940s to 50s. | |
| That's not fair. | |
| They get to listen to the whole thing. | |
| It is true. | |
| We're on this side. | |
| So yeah, World War II. | |
| World War I was 1914, 1918, World War II, 1939, 1945. | |
| The reason I bring it up, though, Texas, Texas made a good point. | |
| Texas made a good point. | |
| Madam Houston. | |
| Texas. | |
| Well, Houston, Texas. | |
| Okay, thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| She was saying, I actually forgot what she said, but she made a good point. | |
| And the point that I was going to make off of that was: so women couldn't vote in the 1914s, right? | |
| But in that same period of time. | |
| Men couldn't either. | |
| Well, so I think it was like a period of 50 years or something where men had the right to vote and women didn't. | |
| It wasn't like centuries where all men could vote and women were just oppressed. | |
| It was a short window of time where the voting was just opened up broadly. | |
| Men had it for, I think, 50 years or so. | |
| That don't quote, it's not precise. | |
| I don't know, 40, it's 40 to 60, whatever. | |
| Very short period of time. | |
| Very short window when all men could vote. | |
| But I think back to, okay, well, hold on. | |
| It was a great oppression in the 1910s that women couldn't vote. | |
| Great oppression. | |
| But then I think of the respective roles that men and women had in that time period. | |
| And I'm not really sold on this idea that, you know, that women overall in totality had it worse, even though they didn't have access to certain rights. | |
| Like me personally, if you had to ask me, Brian, would you rather get shipped off to the front line of Europe as an 18-year-old in 1916, 1917 or whatever? | |
| Whenever the U.S., I don't know when, well, if you're in Europe, you were in it from the start, but in the U.S., I think we entered the war in 1916, 1917, World War I. Anyways, not really material here. | |
| I kind of would be like, you know what? | |
| I don't really want to vote. | |
| I don't want to go get trench foot in some fucking, the fucking forest area of France on the front line, and I'm getting shell shock. | |
| And I come back like with half my face fucking exploded off if I even survive. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know if women had it really all that bad. | |
| World War I was brutal. | |
| Fucking chemical weapons, mustard gas, phosphine, phosgene. | |
| I don't know what the fuck. | |
| Well, I think what you're forgetting. | |
| I mean, that's a different. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I think what you're forgetting is that even, even in the, I'm sure it was if it was the Second World War, it's definitely in the First World War where, you know, when the men went to war, women were like, they were the first responders. | |
| They were the front line of America and they weren't allowed to get paid for it. | |
| So I just still would rather be a woman. | |
| I would rather be a woman. | |
| Put me in the factory. | |
| Put me in the factory. | |
| I don't want to go to the fucking like the Pacific. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I don't want to go to the fucking, I go fight on Iwo Jima or some shit. | |
| I don't want to do that. | |
| I don't want to go fucking get fucking clapped by some fucking German sniper fire in the Ardennes forest or some shit. | |
| No, I'm good. | |
| I'm good. | |
| I'm good in fucking Kentucky. | |
| I'm chilling in Kentucky, bro. | |
| Ain't no Germans or Japanese coming for me in Kentucky. | |
| Totally. | |
| Leave me in Minnesota. | |
| I think men were definitely the primary victims of war. | |
| I just think that, although I understand what you're saying, it was definitely better to be a woman at that time than it was a man. | |
| That doesn't necessarily mean that the other things that women faced were, you know, non-conducive to, you know, or conducive to positive stars. | |
| And they're all outside of wartime. | |
| Right. | |
| Dying from childbirth. | |
| Childbirth. | |
| But I think, quite honestly, it sounds like a miserable time to be alive. | |
| And then they haven't been alive. | |
| But also, even historically, most work, like, I think there's this thing where, can I ask you a question? | |
| You're 18, right? | |
| Have you ever used a dial-up, like a landline phone? | |
| You've used a landline? | |
| Like when you were five or six or some shit? | |
| When you were young, maybe. | |
| I mean, I had a landline in my old house. | |
| I think when we're looking back at these time periods, we don't really have a sense of like we're almost implanting how we are sense of society today and we're implanting it on the past. | |
| Like there weren't air-conditioned office jobs 100 years ago, 150 years ago. | |
| Most jobs were strictly physical labor. | |
| And because of men's advantage in that realm, physical strength, women just a lot of jobs were not suited for women because most jobs were just like, okay, move this heavy thing over here. | |
| Do this like back-breaking labor. | |
| So, oh, women couldn't. | |
| If you were a woman back then, you wouldn't want to work. | |
| But it's not just about work. | |
| It's about owning property and having like divorce rights and stuff like that. | |
| You just get a man to own the property. | |
| Women could own property. | |
| You worry about all that. | |
| Not always. | |
| No, you could own property. | |
| Women didn't get the right to own property until like, I think it was the 50s or 60s. | |
| No, no, women. | |
| Hold on. | |
| If we're talking about like marriage or whatever, but like if a woman had a father or something and she was, what's the term for it? | |
| She was sponsored? | |
| No, not sponsored. | |
| Women could inherit. | |
| But anything that a woman owned, her husband was like hers. | |
| Unless, I mean, hold on. | |
| Women absolutely could own property. | |
| Not always. | |
| Yes, always. | |
| Even if they were. | |
| Yes, always. | |
| Hold on. | |
| In the 1700s, 1800s, women absolutely could own property and they did this. | |
| If you were rich, if you were the 1%. | |
| No, you could just be the daughter of somebody and be the sole heir. | |
| Right. | |
| That's an heir. | |
| That's not only purchasing yourself. | |
| Well, technically, if the woman inherited money, she could purchase property. | |
| Okay. | |
| Hold on. | |
| So you're talking about the rich women. | |
| Yeah, but we're talking about the 1% here, Brian. | |
| The average. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I don't know if I'm talking about the 1%. | |
| Women could purchase property. | |
| Even if they couldn't purchase property, just get a man that could and it's yours anyway. | |
| I think it's that so. | |
| Women could always own property in the U.S. | |
| I don't know about like Canada. | |
| I don't know what the fuck's going on there. | |
| Shit. | |
| Like in Mounties? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Hey, we got it because it's Canada. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Nothing. | |
| I like. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| All that we do to you? | |
| Nothing. | |
| Nothing. | |
| I'm just, you know, it's nice to roast on Canada a little bit. | |
| Everyone does it. | |
| It's all right. | |
| I don't know. | |
| There's just a lot of tropes. | |
| Look into it. | |
| A lot of feminist tropes about women couldn't own property. | |
| That's not true. | |
| Women couldn't work. | |
| Eh, that's not true. | |
| Look, without feminism, I wouldn't have the position that I have today. | |
| I was the first men's rights advocate to ever pop up on social media. | |
| If you look at the men's rights community alone, it's all female dominated. | |
| You've got Lady J, the Dadvocate, Emily King, myself, Hi Doomy, Latrice, a bunch of who? | |
| Huh? | |
| She said Bonnie Blue. | |
| She loves men. | |
| No, that's your era. | |
| That's not our era. | |
| It's predominantly female-dominated. | |
| And that's just like, number one, it's a huge privilege. | |
| And it seeks to prove the conversation you had earlier where women's voices have, they're like almost respected, quote unquote, more. | |
| Like women can say things that men can't. | |
| But, you know, the truth of the matter is, is that I would not be able to be in a position that I am today without that. | |
| That's why I think Pearl Davis is a fucking idiot because she's like this big, you know, talker, has a leadership position in society and thinks that women shouldn't be able to vote because we're too dumb. | |
| Well, that's not my position. | |
| No, I know. | |
| I'm just stating that there are. | |
| Women aren't dumb, but we do make emotional decisions. | |
| And that takes away our weight, our credibility. | |
| Our credibility. | |
| You don't think men also make emotional decisions? | |
| Men are way more logical than women. | |
| I don't think that more men make emotional decisions. | |
| You get a man hard. | |
| He can't think about any of them. | |
| Yeah, but that's when it comes to six. | |
| That's true. | |
| And even after that, no, he's going right back to what he thought before. | |
| Yeah, post the clarity. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I mean, I think it's fair to say, right, that both men and women have like weaknesses. | |
| What are you doing with them? | |
| Can you do a little adjustment? | |
| Just pull it up. | |
| Just do a little tad. | |
| Pilot, my producer. | |
| I've been listening very intently to everything that you've said. | |
| And just so you know, I care about you. | |
| Like, I'm thankful for men. | |
| I think they're a wonderful gift from God. | |
| But, I mean, to be frankly honest, there has been times in my life, seasons in my life, where I did hate all men too. | |
| I don't hate all men. | |
| How many hates men? | |
| Well, I mean, like, I'm just saying that. | |
| For me, it was like that. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I do understand like both sides of the aisle here. | |
| God created man, woman, child. | |
| It goes in that order. | |
| So you can be godly, but you got to respect the hierarchy. | |
| I mean, but how many men and women are truly godly in today's society? | |
| I'm not sure about everybody's religion. | |
| All I know is that people who preach the word don't actually live by the word. | |
| Even religion aside, having godly characteristics, I think that accounts for a very small percentage. | |
| I do think Christians are civilization. | |
| I do think Christians are hypocrites. | |
| And I don't think you don't have to be a Christian to be godly. | |
| You can't see the Bible. | |
| You can't say you believe in the Bible and not go by man, woman, child. | |
| That's kind of a sin to say you hate a man. | |
| Sorry, man. | |
| Normally we talk about dating, but sometimes we talk about other children. | |
| How about this? | |
| A couple fun questions here. | |
| Is it a deal breaker? | |
| Get ready, guys. | |
| Everybody tuned in. | |
| Brace yourself. | |
| All right, brace yourselves. | |
| Is it a deal breaker if a guy uses the word retarded? | |
| Oh, no. | |
| I love using that word. | |
| I hate that we can't. | |
| Not a deal breaker. | |
| I guess. | |
| Is it a red flag? | |
| Maybe. | |
| Red flag. | |
| Like he's. | |
| It's kind of like this. | |
| It's like, hold on. | |
| You don't call retarded people retards. | |
| Michael Scott. | |
| It's bad taste. | |
| You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded. | |
| Like, like that, you know? | |
| I fucking love that. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| That's fine. | |
| If they went up to like a mentally handicapped person and called them retarded. | |
| But that's I think that would be directly. | |
| That would be bad. | |
| I think it's mean, but that's the direct definition of a retarded re-re alley. | |
| Like they're retarded. | |
| And that's nothing. | |
| I don't think people take it the wrong way now, but I don't think it should be looked at as a bad thing because that's the word we use. | |
| Now we can't no more word. | |
| Oh, oh, this is a fun one. | |
| Oh, I can't believe I forgot to do this. | |
| Okay. | |
| Is it fun? | |
| Make I want going right, sort of. | |
| Make this is not at all dating related, but whatever. | |
| I saw this TikTok and I thought it was fun. | |
| Make a machine gun noise. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| I gotta pick one. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What's that? | |
| Oh, the blue. | |
| Make a machine gun noise. | |
| I don't. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let me think for a sec. | |
| Speaking to the sex eye rapper. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, man. | |
| Okay, go ahead and make a machine gun noise. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's good. | |
| I don't know if I could do it. | |
| I don't like the whole. | |
| Come on, just go for it. | |
| Like what she just did, I guess. | |
| I'm going to say like a total the word that is banned. | |
| I just, I can't. | |
| Machine gun noise? | |
| Machine gun noise? | |
| She did it. | |
| Your turn. | |
| I'd be like, fuck, That would be me. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| All right, what about you? | |
| Oh, man. | |
| I can't fall. | |
| I also can't whistle, so this is my worst night. | |
| She's right there with me on that one. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Okay, well, I'm going to do a rocket launcher and then grenades and then that ain't your person I'm doing now. | |
| That was good. | |
| I've been waiting my whole life for that. | |
| That's it. | |
| I saw a TikTok that's. | |
| Why are you doing it? | |
| I can't do it. | |
| Yeah, go on. | |
| Don't have to do it. | |
| I saw this. | |
| Hold on. | |
| No, I'm not. | |
| Do it. | |
| You made us do it. | |
| I'm a laugh. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me explain it first. | |
| I saw this TikTok and it was saying that women can't make machine gun noises. | |
| It's a man's soul. | |
| But you guys were able to do it. | |
| That's good for the soul. | |
| Has anybody seen that TikTok? | |
| Why are you avoiding the question? | |
| Do it. | |
| Fuck, I'm going to fuck this up. | |
| I'm not doing it. | |
| No, do it. | |
| Crying. | |
| Crying. | |
| Would you look at that? | |
| No, no. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Vector, thank you. | |
| You've said you are not hurting anyone. | |
| Answer me this. | |
| If two adult team wants to consent to cutting each other for fun, are they hurting each other? | |
| What? | |
| I don't think me getting that fatty online is like the same as actually physically harming adults. | |
| Yeah, if that's what they want to do. | |
| Sex. | |
| They can do that, baby. | |
| You want to cut yourself tanky. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We like that. | |
| I support. | |
| What's that? | |
| I think we got raided. | |
| By oh shit. | |
| I didn't even know Andrew was streaming. | |
| Did we get raided? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me take a look. | |
| I might have missed it. | |
| Oh, yep. | |
| He just sent yo, Andrew. | |
| Thank you so much, man, for the raid, dude. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| I didn't even know you were streaming today, man. | |
| I hope you had a good stream, Andrew. | |
| Thank you for the raid. | |
| Guys, we just had all the women see if they can make machine gun noises. | |
| Do it again, it's not done. | |
| Ironically, the best was from a non-American. | |
| That's not the argument, Chloe. | |
| The argument is that women have the right to vote absent the corresponding duties associated with voting. | |
| At least get the argument right. | |
| Covered feminists are the worst. | |
| Are you calling me a covered feminist? | |
| I don't know why your audience hates me so much. | |
| They all think I'm like eradicated. | |
| Oh, they hate me, Brian. | |
| Have you seen your comments from the last one? | |
| I don't understand where they are. | |
| I would ask. | |
| One of the most beautiful and hard-working women I know. | |
| Daddy loves some baby girls. | |
| Kissing. | |
| Mary. | |
| Mary. | |
| Sim text. | |
| Love them. | |
| Wait. | |
| Damn. | |
| Daddy. | |
| Mary works for me behind the scenes. | |
| Daddy. | |
| I guess that's got to be someone that knows you. | |
| Secret admirer. | |
| Her admirer is. | |
| But you're simping, so you have to send in another TTS. | |
| That's a rule. | |
| If you send in a simpy message, you have to pay the simp tax. | |
| You got to send in another one. | |
| And preferably not simp, I guess. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Why are you avoiding it? | |
| Do the machine gun. | |
| Be a good boy. | |
| I don't have. | |
| I think I have a speech impediment, so I can't do it. | |
| Really? | |
| Some people can't move their tongues like that. | |
| Exactly. | |
| I'm good. | |
| Not even the pew pew? | |
| I'm good. | |
| That's terrible. | |
| I think Grum Giant would be taking another shot or something. | |
| I can't do it. | |
| I can't do it. | |
| Be a good boy. | |
| It's fun. | |
| Anyways. | |
| But yeah, chat, basically, women can't do machine gun noises, but all of men, apparently. | |
| All the women were able to do it. | |
| No, men can't do it. | |
| Will you date a guy who owns firearms? | |
| No. | |
| Yes. | |
| No. | |
| I'm from Texas. | |
| Hell yeah. | |
| I need to be protected. | |
| Yeah, 100%. | |
| Yes. | |
| Chloe? | |
| I'm from Alberta. | |
| We all got rifles. | |
| Hell yeah. | |
| Is that guns in Canada? | |
| What the hell? | |
| Oh, I didn't know that. | |
| Yeah, they're just, you know, what's the word? | |
| Regulated. | |
| Would you, let's see. | |
| Wait, Brian. | |
| Yeah. | |
| The man that I'm going to marry, my future husband, one day, he's going to have to do the machine gun with me or else it's not going to happen. | |
| It's a standard of possession or... | |
| Yeah. | |
| You want to do the machine gun sex possession? | |
| No. | |
| That is the farthest. | |
| I got a seat essay. | |
| I'm intrigued. | |
| You're just dressed. | |
| Is it like in a comma sutra book and I see a picture? | |
| Let's pull it up on someone else. | |
| What's the question? | |
| What's the most toxic thing you've ever done dating related? | |
| I don't really date, so nothing. | |
| What's the most toxic thing you've ever done? | |
| And the context would be having casual, meaningless, meaningless sex with somebody. | |
| Is that toxic? | |
| What? | |
| Is that toxic? | |
| No, I'm not saying that's toxic. | |
| I'm just, she says she doesn't date, so I'm saying. | |
| I genuinely, and this is me being 100% honest, don't think I've ever done anything toxic in a dating sense just because I don't, ever. | |
| Just because I don't have enough experience. | |
| Oh, yeah, she's 18. | |
| She's young, 18. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Most toxic thing you've ever done. | |
| I'm like really good, but I slept with my brother's best friend, Danny's girlfriend. | |
| Oh, yikes. | |
| Yeah, it's really bad. | |
| Most toxic thing? | |
| I would say probably as of recent, my extreme pettiness to let him know that I knew who it was that he was cheating on me with. | |
| I baked him a cake because he said I didn't bake anymore and put her face on it and said, you want to have your cake and eat it too? | |
| I'm going to feed you your cake. | |
| Whoa. | |
| Instead of being mature and growing up and using my words like a grown-up, I decided, yeah. | |
| I fucking love this woman, man. | |
| Good times. | |
| Good times. | |
| It was the best of times. | |
| The open cake in there, her face was. | |
| Most toxic thing? | |
| I slept with my ex's dad. | |
| Okay. | |
| Rudy? | |
| It's a thing. | |
| We're all horny in the UK. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I heard Europeans are freaky. | |
| We are hanging down. | |
| Sex doesn't affect you for us. | |
| Yeah, y'all get down and dirty. | |
| I fuck with how y'all move with sex and everything out there. | |
| What most toxic thing you've ever done? | |
| I have never moved toxic in any type of way. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| When I was 22, I had a boyfriend that I should have broken up with. | |
| And then he lost his job. | |
| I was doing a show over in Europe. | |
| And instead of breaking up with him like an adult, I let him fly over from the U.S. to come visit me in Europe where I broke up with him in Monaco. | |
| I love that. | |
| I know, I just, it was immature. | |
| Anybody? | |
| Yeah. | |
| When I really, really, really like somebody, I tend to get really clingy. | |
| No way. | |
| Like stalker clingy? | |
| No. | |
| Like follow them around in your car, clingy? | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| Why not? | |
| Have you ever done that? | |
| No. | |
| Is that what you do, Felicity? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Chloe, most toxic thing you've ever done dating related. | |
| Chloe, you look like a bitch. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| I bet you did some crazy shit. | |
| No, I'm actually pretty invested in my relationships. | |
| I think the most toxic thing I did was while in a relationship, somebody sent me a picture, not a nude one, just like a shirtless one in the shower. | |
| And instead of ignoring it and being a good person, I responded with the wet emoji. | |
| What? | |
| It was pretty fucked up. | |
| It like broke trust in my relationship. | |
| I deeply regret it. | |
| Crazy. | |
| That's all I see. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Not the horny. | |
| Okay. | |
| Oh, we have a fun segment here. | |
| Name three countries go. | |
| Scotland, England, America. | |
| Yay! | |
| You can't repeat from the previous person. | |
| Thank God. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ireland, France, Italy. | |
| Canada, America, Mexico. | |
| Latin America. | |
| One more. | |
| France. | |
| Did somebody else say that? | |
| Did someone say that? | |
| France. | |
| Hey, don't help her. | |
| Jamaica. | |
| Okay, three countries go. | |
| Germany, Italy, and Croatia. | |
| Dominican Republic, Norway, and Hungary. | |
| Austria, Greece, Lebanon. | |
| See, Sweden, Philippines. | |
| I don't know if anyone said that already. | |
| And United Arab Emirates. | |
| Clothes. | |
| Three countries. | |
| Turkey, Romania, Iraq. | |
| Nice. | |
| Cool. | |
| Has anybody here ever had a one-night stand? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Let me reframe the question. | |
| Have you ever hooked up the same day you met somebody, same day, same night? | |
| You could have continued dating them or whatever, but same day you met them. | |
| Yep. | |
| Hey, oh yeah. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Nobody. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, if you have cats, then why not not? | |
| Explore it. | |
| Has anyone here ever had a ho phase? | |
| Show of hands. | |
| If you've had a ho phase. | |
| I'm still in it. | |
| I guess I'm not. | |
| You've had a ho phase. | |
| Ho phase, ho phase, ho phase. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's what I used to do. | |
| Has anyone here hooked up? | |
| It's not a phase. | |
| It's a lifestyle. | |
| Exactly. | |
| She's still in the phase. | |
| There is no phase. | |
| It's perma. | |
| She's perma ho phase, I guess. | |
| Has anyone here ever hooked up with two men in a 24-hour period? | |
| No, really? | |
| No. | |
| No, okay. | |
| She's a baby. | |
| I keep asking her. | |
| You know what? | |
| Ask her what she's seen in high school. | |
| She's seen some shit. | |
| That's true. | |
| She's battle-harding. | |
| I ain't going to lie. | |
| I did that at 18. | |
| She was in the middle of the day. | |
| But people in fucking middle school be doing some crazy shit nowadays. | |
| It's fucked up. | |
| My little brother's 12. | |
| He's got some wild stories for me. | |
| I'm like, please don't. | |
| These kids be wild. | |
| I guess he's 13. | |
| 14 now. | |
| People will be fucking. | |
| I mean, at the same time. | |
| People will be fucking. | |
| People will be fucking. | |
| Two guys in a 24-hour period. | |
| Like, I've done like a freesome before, yeah, but we won't through some separate thing, I guess. | |
| Okay, then, though. | |
| Long, long time ago. | |
| Back in the day. | |
| Have you three in 24 hours? | |
| I definitely went through a phase like 20 years ago where I just had frivolous sex because I wanted to. | |
| And it was just to get, like, I don't know. | |
| Go off, queen. | |
| Pop off, T. | |
| I don't know, because now, even, guys, I'm the one over here like clutching my pearls. | |
| Like, when I look back on it, I'm just like, oh, my God. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes, I did. | |
| So, was it four guys in a 24-hour period? | |
| I thought it was two. | |
| Wait, wow. | |
| We went from two to three to four. | |
| Has it been four guys in a 24-hour period? | |
| Darling, we're leaving it at three. | |
| Leaving it. | |
| We're leaving it at three. | |
| You got to respect that commitment to be a slut. | |
| How many in a seven-day period? | |
| I don't. | |
| Like 10? | |
| It was different back then. | |
| I mean, like I said, back then, she's not old. | |
| I admit, I'm older than all of you. | |
| In my early 20s, when I was like heavily active in the business, absolutely. | |
| So was it work or was it the hoe-ishness or the sluttiness? | |
| I have not. | |
| My sluttiness was not, there wasn't a lot of weight in the sluttiness. | |
| But the ho-ism in my early years, there's a big difference. | |
| What was the hoe-ism, though? | |
| I mean, there's a huge difference between a slut and a hoe. | |
| A hoe gets paid, and a slut is just frivolous. | |
| That's good. | |
| So, like I said, in my early years in that business, absolutely, there was a lot of activity happening. | |
| A lot of hoe-ing. | |
| Just like you said with somebody. | |
| A lot of hoeing. | |
| Like I said, there was a lot of activity, which now has me over here like, oh, bless your soul, honey. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm going to wait for Chloe to come back before we get into our next thing. | |
| We have a little bit more to get through, but I think we'll have to rap pretty soon. | |
| Would you date a Republican? | |
| Conservative. | |
| I would not. | |
| Would not? | |
| Okay. | |
| Like conservative and Breton? | |
| I don't know if the terms are different there. | |
| Tory? | |
| It's basically right wing. | |
| Like a Tory. | |
| Right, right. | |
| Fuck, I don't know if he was hot and had a good big deck, probably. | |
| If he had a lot of come, Ben. | |
| Fame for me. | |
| Fuck. | |
| You're too late. | |
| You're too late. | |
| Would you date a Republican? | |
| Yes, absolutely. | |
| Would you date a Trump supporter? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Would you date a conservative? | |
| Tori. | |
| I have, yes, before. | |
| Would you currently, though? | |
| No? | |
| Yes. | |
| Would you date a Trump supporter? | |
| Yes. | |
| Date a Republican? | |
| Yes. | |
| Data Trump supporter? | |
| If I would not date somebody that is incapable of looking at some of the things Donald Trump has done and have valid criticism. | |
| Like somebody that's like everything Donald Trump does is perfect all the time. | |
| No. | |
| I couldn't. | |
| Someone that voted for Trump? | |
| Yes. | |
| Somebody to dig Rock Trump. | |
| You wouldn't want to do that. | |
| It's very important. | |
| No, not somebody that's like. | |
| I mean, we all know those people. | |
| Like, he cannot. | |
| Anything that he says is the gospel. | |
| I think all of our politicians deserve critique and fair analysis. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Yes. | |
| Conservative is a little different because they're usually religious and I'm not religious, but I would not date them because of that. | |
| And I've dated a Trump supporter before. | |
| All right. | |
| Let's see. | |
| We have. | |
| We have. | |
| We can do like. | |
| Okay, we're going to do this, this, pre-show notes, then wrap. | |
| By the way, $69 TTS. | |
| If you guys want to get a message in, hold on, let me check on that. | |
| I've maybe missed. | |
| Oh, sorry. | |
| Sorry for the delay on this, Charl. | |
| One sec. | |
| The question is, or from the questionnaire, are adult age gap relationships wrong? | |
| Adult, like both people are. | |
| They're adults, but like, say the guy's 30 and he's dating a 20-year-old. | |
| I think between consenting adults, no, it's not wrong. | |
| Okay, you're fine with it. | |
| Okay, let me let some chats come through. | |
| Hold on. | |
| One sec. | |
| There are more samples. | |
| Uh-oh, this is for you, Brit-me. | |
| Brittany, never thought I'd see you on the whatever podcast. | |
| I'm happy to see your integrity. | |
| But your big booty still needs a good spanking for going back to kitten. | |
| You got to admit it live. | |
| Kitten is porn. | |
| It changes some of the words. | |
| Okay. | |
| Going back to porn. | |
| Change porn to kitten. | |
| I'm glad they spelled my name correctly, though. | |
| I'll give it that. | |
| Do you want to respond or? | |
| Okay, I guess that's a no. | |
| me what is there to say $100 my sources tell me that there was a paddy sighting on the show just came by to state for the record I'm the only paddy around these parts are there any future debates coming up soon Possibly. | |
| Possibly. | |
| Some potential things in the works. | |
| We'll see. | |
| We'll see. | |
| We have wisdom here. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Chair two, don't suffer of you, degenerates. | |
| Chair three, for you specifically. | |
| You call me daddy, eagle emoji. | |
| Chair four, too, quiet. | |
| Chair five, you white. | |
| Chair six, piano hands. | |
| Chair seven, de Lulu, chair eight, twelve steps. | |
| Vibe 12 steps, vibe. | |
| I'll take it as compliments. | |
| You must be the one who's in the middle of the morning. | |
| Thank you, wisdom. | |
| Here, piano here. | |
| How did you know I used to smoke meth? | |
| No, I'm just joking. | |
| We have Chaw's coming for you, Chloe. | |
| I find that very funny, actually. | |
| I think that taking a basic stance for like women, I don't know if that classifies him. | |
| But hey, hey, man, it's your opinion. | |
| You have a right to it. | |
| We have white t-shirt. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Okay, that's fine. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| White underscore t-shirts underscorated $69. | |
| CH2 feels bad man. | |
| CH4 is fucking Groggers from League of Legends. | |
| CH5, you look like a horse from Stardew Valley. | |
| Nice weight loss, Brixono, and CH8 is based and cooled. | |
| RIP Charlie Kirk. | |
| Hey, you need some pussy. | |
| You need some pussy. | |
| Go out and find it instead of confident on women, you know? | |
| What? | |
| It's obvious that you don't get it. | |
| Oh, Stardew Valley. | |
| Right. | |
| That's such a cute game, though. | |
| Has anyone played it? | |
| I am. | |
| Nobody will probably give you pussy anyway. | |
| Stay on that game. | |
| Adult age gap relationships. | |
| Summer, you say they're wrong. | |
| Yeah, I'd say thank they're wrong. | |
| Okay, why is that? | |
| I think if, like, you're like, why can't you find someone your own age? | |
| Why'd you have to go for someone that's literally just came out with being a teenager? | |
| Like, I have a teenage, like, little sister. | |
| And if she came to me and was like, oh, I have a boyfriend, he's 32. | |
| I'd be like, how old is your sister? | |
| She's 17, turning 18. | |
| But like, if she was 20, she was like, my boyfriend's 32. | |
| I'd be like, you're a weirdo. | |
| Well, I mean, in the example provided, it's 30-year-old dating 20-year-old. | |
| I don't know if the like in the U.S., the federal age of consent is 18. | |
| 16. | |
| Well, are you legally? | |
| Are you a minor? | |
| Like, what's the you can have sex at 16. | |
| Same in Canada, yeah. | |
| But you were an adult at 18. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Okay. | |
| So, but when I'm talking about, I'm talking strictly about adult relationships. | |
| So the other person's, like, in the U.S., that would be considered a minor. | |
| She's 17, right? | |
| Yeah. | |
| She'd be a minor. | |
| She's, yeah, she's a minor. | |
| Right. | |
| So, I would, I'll just go ahead and say I object to that. | |
| But what I'm talking about here would be when both people are tech are adults, but one is 20 and one is 30 or 35. | |
| Would that still be objectionable to you? | |
| I wouldn't say it's like wrong. | |
| I just think it was weird. | |
| Why is it weird? | |
| Because I don't understand why you can't find someone your own age. | |
| Like, what are you talking about? | |
| What if you could, but you preferred to date younger women? | |
| That's strange. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'll respond to that, but does anybody else object to age gap relationships? | |
| Is it strange that younger women want to date older men? | |
| Is that equally as strange to you? | |
| Correct. | |
| Because I think it's as strange as if an older man wants to date a younger woman just because, I mean, that's what he likes. | |
| And younger women are easier to mold. | |
| Most women past like 27, if they stuck in their ways, it's hard to get through to them. | |
| So I could understand it from a man's point of view of thinking that it's easier and maybe he could have a little bit more weight in the relationship because I mean, every man wants to lead. | |
| And if you can't lead a woman, then there's no point of being in that relationship. | |
| So I don't see anything wrong with an age gap. | |
| Here's because I would like to be with somebody that I can learn from. | |
| I don't want to be with somebody that's my age and I'm surpassing. | |
| And it would just, it just wouldn't feel like a relationship that I need to be in. | |
| I think it's all based off like intention, though. | |
| Like if a man has always only went for very young women, it's strange. | |
| But if you're out in a club, you meet someone, it's organic, whatever, not strange. | |
| But if you're seeking, like actively seeking a younger woman to like mold, then yeah, I think that's strange. | |
| I don't think it's strange as long as she's of age. | |
| I'm going to say something that I don't think is ever brought up in this discussion is I don't think it's necessarily the best idea for the man because I think women at 20 years old are incredibly immature. | |
| And I'm not necessarily just saying out there partying and drinking. | |
| I think at 20 years old, you meet someone, you're like, oh, they're hot. | |
| Oh, they take care of me. | |
| Those are like the premise of what you're looking for in a relationship. | |
| We get along. | |
| Then, as you start to get older, I mean, you're thinking about things when you're pursuing a relationship that's going to lead to marriage. | |
| Like, is this somebody that's going to help me one day when my parents die and I have to deal with that emotionally? | |
| Is this someone that would take care of me if I got cancer? | |
| I think you're reasoning and when you're 20 years old, you think you're never going to age and you don't look far ahead and you don't look at characteristics that you would be looking at when you're 25 plus. | |
| And I think that creates a flight risk for the men because they're going to invest this time and this money into these younger girls who maybe after, you know, two, three years come have some sort of coming of age or growing, evolving, learning like we all do and say, oh, you know what? | |
| I don't want to do this anymore. | |
| And it's no skin off of their back because they're 22 and they're going to bounce back and recover from it. | |
| But if I just think men need to be cautious with putting all of their time and energy into a very young woman who may not have that mature, even if she seems old for her age, has not had experiences or thoughts that make her a long-term partner. | |
| These young, predatory women trying to date these older men. | |
| I can't believe it. | |
| I can't believe that. | |
| I don't think it's intentional. | |
| I don't believe these predatory young women just so sick. | |
| I think there are women that try to use men for money. | |
| That's not even when I'm saying it. | |
| I think a lot of time it's completely unintentional. | |
| Just like, oh, I'm 20. | |
| I don't know anything about the world. | |
| I have, you know, really no concept of money. | |
| All I'm looking for in a partner is somebody that makes me laugh and that I think is hot. | |
| And we get along without discussing things like politics or religion or things that are a big deal when you're going through life with somebody, not necessarily dating somebody at that age. | |
| But I guess also it's whatever the intention is of that person dating. | |
| Do you see them as a person? | |
| I feel like another partner. | |
| Age ain't nothing but a number. | |
| So if two people are getting in a relationship, I think, okay, as long as they're consented adults, what needs to be, you know, what needs to be talked about is what the two can bring to the table. | |
| Now, if a 20-year-old can't bring to the table what a grown man is asking for, then that grown man needs to be a man and be able to go in a different direction. | |
| Now, from a 20-year-old, if a 20-year-old knows what she's looking for and she knows that she wants a man to provide for her and she knows that she wants to be taken care of by men mentally, physically, and emotionally, then she has a right to decide for herself if that grown man is for her or not. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| I don't think anyone is arguing about like whether you have the right to do it or whether it's legal or whether it's morally wrong. | |
| I just don't necessarily think it's smart. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think that there are a lot of risks associated with that. | |
| Every relationship has its risks. | |
| 100%. | |
| 100%. | |
| But I think that this is an aspect of those sorts of relationships that is never brought up. | |
| It's never discussed. | |
| I think a lot of relationships can be predatory. | |
| I'm not sure if it's just age. | |
| I've heard that a lot of age gap relationships can be predatory, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. | |
| I think as long as they're both two consenting adults that want to be together, it's fine. | |
| I mean, what if it was reversed? | |
| How do you guys feel about a 30-year-old woman dating a 20-year-old man? | |
| I equally think that, once again, a 20-year-old man, that's a risky decision for a 30-year-old woman, investing your time and energy into somebody who might wake up one day within the next year and realize they have not experienced the world. | |
| They have not evolved on their worldview. | |
| You're not going to be on the same wavelength as this person. | |
| Yeah, I was just going to say, I think age, this whole like age is just a number. | |
| I think it can be, but it depends on where the person is in their life, right? | |
| Like, yeah, I have an 11-year age difference between me and my fiancé, but I'm also like 28 years old. | |
| I've been paying my own bills since I was 16. | |
| I make over $600,000 a year. | |
| Like, what the fuck am I going to do with a 20-year-old? | |
| Like, what am I going to do? | |
| But it's about where that person is. | |
| An 18-year-old and a 40-year-old are at two very different places developmentally, socially. | |
| So I wouldn't necessarily agree with that, but it just depends on where you are in life, man. | |
| Some people are just more mature. | |
| Like I said, I don't know what the hell I would do with somebody my age. | |
| So also the older that you get, right? | |
| Like a 40-year-old and a 55-year-old, both of those people and a 60-year-old have had a lot of lived life experience. | |
| It's weird to want to date someone just because of their age. | |
| Exactly. | |
| I don't think that's the case for courage. | |
| I think that's what people misconstrue when they highlight in like somebody getting groomed or whatnot. | |
| Like this person is going after only 20-year-olds, 19-year-olds, when it's not about just the age. | |
| It's about if they can get what they're asking for from somebody that age. | |
| Like if it's like a repetitive thing, weird. | |
| If it's not, fair enough. | |
| Then we won't. | |
| So not weird. | |
| If you're actively seeking like a 20-year-old, an 18-year-old, a 19-year-old as an older gentleman. | |
| Yeah, I think it's weird. | |
| But if you're not actively just like, if that's not your pattern. | |
| But I think with these age gap discussions, there's this tendency to want to point to, well, if they're only seeking this out, then it's bad. | |
| But I still feel like even if we walk it back a bit and there's like a guy who's 30 and he's dated a 33 year old, he dated a 27 year old, 29 year old, and then he dated a 20 year old, still feel like people are going to have an issue with it, even if he's dating various people. | |
| I think a lot of young women have dated older men. | |
| When I was 14, I dated a 27-year-old. | |
| Like, I know it's weird. | |
| But 3 to 5, but like 50. | |
| That would make you a victim. | |
| A lot of women have had that situation. | |
| How about this as an example? | |
| Myself, I've dated women who are older than me. | |
| I dated a woman who was like 10 years older than me. | |
| When I was 30 or something, I forget. | |
| Huh? | |
| Yeah, I'm 36. | |
| I dated, I dated. | |
| I think, yeah, I was 33 or something. | |
| I dated the to be fair. | |
| To be fair, she was Wasian, okay? | |
| Okay, to be fair. | |
| Oh, and that's it. | |
| To be fair, okay, guys, you know, Asian don't raise the level. | |
| You know how it is. | |
| Asian don't raise it? | |
| Yeah, that's the same. | |
| They don't raise it. | |
| I've heard of black don't crack, but there's that too. | |
| That is hilarious. | |
| Asians do age good, too. | |
| But, and then I've dated women exactly my age. | |
| I've dated women a couple years younger than me. | |
| And then, say, for example, say right now I was dating a woman who was 20. | |
| Would you object to that? | |
| I'm 30. | |
| I'm 36. | |
| Yeah, because what are you talking about? | |
| What do I talk about? | |
| Yeah, what are you talking about to her? | |
| What if she's super? | |
| What do you have to relate? | |
| She's huge. | |
| She's what? | |
| She's what? | |
| Wait. | |
| If she was like super hot, I guess it's fine. | |
| But I think it's all about your intention. | |
| If you met this woman, like, I don't know, like here or somewhere. | |
| What if she reached out to me? | |
| She slid into my DMs. | |
| Then great for you, bit. | |
| Like, she likes a daddy. | |
| Like, she loves a daddy. | |
| Be clear, like it, I don't think if you're out of college, you shouldn't be kicking it at college parties. | |
| Like, yeah, that would be weird if like a 30-year-old is kicking it at a college party. | |
| That's weird, right? | |
| Do you guys ever get those like 60-year-old men in nightclubs, like just on their own here? | |
| Do men, yeah, I've seen them, they're like standing off in the corner and they always try on ducks. | |
| Yeah, I've seen it, but I've also seen like 40-year-old women doing the same thing. | |
| Yeah, they did, you know, it's quite sad, and I because I see that a lot at my work too, right? | |
| When people come into like piano bars or lounges because they don't want to be that creepy guy, right? | |
| Like, a lot of them don't want to be the old guy at the club with 20-year-old, but they are, they're very lonely, and I, I, my heart really does go out for them because they loved they love to sit at the piano bar, and they honestly say, like, a lot of times I am tipped because I just listen to their life story, like they're not actively seeking like something like that. | |
| They just want a lot of them they had a partner, maybe they lost their wife, maybe they nobody, I don't know, and maybe it's because I, you know, I've spent the last decade working in show business and nightlife, and you see like both sides of that, but your heart really does go out because nobody wants to be that creepy guy, nobody wants to be the creepy guy in the back of the club. | |
| I'm sure they're, I say, nobody, I'm sure there's a handful of perverts out there, but for the most part, it's like, well, what are they gonna do? | |
| Just like stay in the middle of the day. | |
| You can't stop competing, it don't matter your age, you gotta compete. | |
| And so should women. | |
| So I don't think that men should be looked at as weird when they still competing for a woman's attention because that's what they should do. | |
| This is kind of, it's just do you object to men having this generalized preference towards finding younger women more attractive? | |
| No, I don't think so. | |
| Biology. | |
| Yeah, there's a biological basis for this. | |
| It typically relates to fertility. | |
| I mean, that's the primary thing. | |
| I feel like people can like what they like. | |
| Yeah, they can have different. | |
| It's not harming anyone. | |
| Yeah, it's not harming anybody. | |
| Then it's fine. | |
| Okay, we have a Blahfest here with an interesting take. | |
| Blahfus donated $69. | |
| Age ain't nothing but a number. | |
| So jail ain't nothing but a place. | |
| It's just a bunch of letters. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Dismissive cliché rational is idiotic. | |
| Age is what it is. | |
| An accurate gauge of your compatibility. | |
| All of those are true. | |
| But I mean, I don't. | |
| I mean, even bringing it further, like, I wouldn't see a problem with like if an 18-year-old woman wanted to date a guy who was 28, don't see a problem. | |
| I did that. | |
| Don't recommend. | |
| Yeah, same. | |
| Don't see a problem. | |
| She wants to do it. | |
| He wants to do it. | |
| There's not really a problem. | |
| Sensing adults. | |
| I don't see this an issue. | |
| And what I'm saying is, like, if it's a pattern, if that's what you're seeking it constantly. | |
| Weird. | |
| I mean, even if it's a pattern, like, okay. | |
| Okay, whatever. | |
| He prefers hot young women. | |
| And this idea that like older women, this idea that older women are more mature. | |
| That's a lot. | |
| That's a damn lie. | |
| Some of the most immature women I've dealt with are older women. | |
| Me. | |
| Like, some of the most toxic, like evil women have been older women. | |
| Not like a 19-year-old. | |
| I feel like. | |
| She's got tame. | |
| When she gets an age and social media, I feel like it's a lot easier for women to educate themselves so they mature a little bit faster. | |
| Women, we mature physically, but like mentally, I don't think so. | |
| I've met 30-year-old women that act like they're 19, and I've met 19-year-old women that have enough sense to know what they don't want to be like at 30. | |
| And I think that's more important. | |
| So a woman that's self-aware rather than a woman that's not and can't take a look at. | |
| I would say as well, I completely agree with you because I see, you know, the 36 to 40-year-old women out drinking at, you know, at the shows, and they are so immature. | |
| They are embarrassingly immature. | |
| I would not argue, though, that if you take that same woman, I can't imagine that she was a real scholar. | |
| at 22 years old who was reserved and quiet. | |
| Usually that sort of behavior and that maturity is like a long powder. | |
| They didn't just wake up one day after they were, you know, working so hard and studying and just lose the plot. | |
| Right. | |
| And I feel like after a certain age, a woman is stuck in place, especially if she isn't working to better herself. | |
| So if this woman is still acting the same way she is as she was at 19, she'd been the same. | |
| Unlike a woman who's like 25 trying to better herself and is taking accountability for her wrongdoings and just like what she know is right and wrong. | |
| Also, we have an 18 year old. | |
| So would you date a 20? | |
| Would you date it, Brian? | |
| Oh. | |
| Anyway, would I date somebody a lot older? | |
| Just because you're like, I personally wouldn't. | |
| I personally wouldn't. | |
| Just my own. | |
| Agree with you, Brian, on the older women being more bitter and evil to the point where you can just like feel it seething from them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| As if they were just sweating it out on a hot, ugly summer day. | |
| And yeah. | |
| You said it, girl. | |
| I mean, just to be clear though, like my position on the age gap stuff, I'm not saying like younger women must or should date older men. | |
| Like I actually acknowledge most younger women probably want to date a guy who's around her age, maybe one, two, three years older. | |
| But yeah, most young, like I'd say most women in college, like they probably want to date a guy in college. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They probably like not trying to date 30 year olds. | |
| But if they want to, my position is I don't really have a problem with that. | |
| Yeah, that's absolutely. | |
| I'm not saying like you must or you should. | |
| I'm just simply saying if she wants to, he wants to, no problem with it. | |
| Don't think it's weird. | |
| Don't think it's any of these things. | |
| And of course, all the while acknowledging, generally speaking, I think most women, especially young women, want to date men around their age. | |
| But I don't think it's weird. | |
| I don't think it's weird. | |
| Whatever. | |
| You're fucking 18. | |
| You want to date fucking Henry Cavill? | |
| Fuck it. | |
| Go for it. | |
| He's like in his mid-40s. | |
| Come on. | |
| You would date. | |
| Is there any, do you have like celebrity crush? | |
| Like Ryan Reynolds or some shit? | |
| Not really. | |
| Carrot Top. | |
| Would you date Carrot Top? | |
| Would I Carrot Top? | |
| Are you out of your mind? | |
| Maybe that's. | |
| Who's Tom? | |
| I don't know who that is. | |
| Carrotop, the comedian. | |
| I know who he is. | |
| Yeah, that's. | |
| Sorry, that's just a lot of fun. | |
| I will say that I love Jackie Jen so much. | |
| What? | |
| Isn't he like in his seven? | |
| What about Pedro? | |
| That guy from The Last of Us? | |
| Pedro? | |
| Oh, actually, my dad was in that last session with Pedro. | |
| Yeah, I don't see it either. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| He's been over to my house. | |
| That's a little touchy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| He lost me there. | |
| But I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, okay. | |
| Like a 19-year-old girl wants to date who's. | |
| Brad Pitt, fuck it. | |
| He's still good looking. | |
| Older, younger, Brad Pitt. | |
| He's in his 60s, but he's honestly Brad Pitt at 60. | |
| I feel like is still better looking than like 90% of dudes in their 20s. | |
| I wouldn't agree. | |
| I honestly would not agree. | |
| I don't think Brad's beauty is subjective. | |
| And I think most men are hot. | |
| Chad and Michael Murray look way better than Brad Pitt. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| I agree. | |
| Agree. | |
| He's been popping up. | |
| Who the fuck is that guy? | |
| That means he wants you. | |
| Guys, we're lowering the TTS. | |
| $29 TTS. | |
| Roast time, boys. | |
| It's roast, roast the girls. | |
| Get your roast and roast Brian. | |
| Okay, fine. | |
| Roast me too. | |
| Should say nice, fine. | |
| It could be the compliment. | |
| I hope they pay you to make that machine gun noise. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What's that? | |
| You'll pay me? | |
| Give me your. | |
| I don't carry a purse. | |
| Last time I was here and everyone just started giving you cash. | |
| Wait, that happened then. | |
| I just, some girl just gave me $100 last show, too. | |
| Bro, I'm fin doming the shit out of all these. | |
| I gave you Canadian money just to Canadian money? | |
| Yeah, and then everybody started pulling cash into the purse. | |
| I'm like, what the fuck? | |
| Yeah, do you guys have any pounds? | |
| Why would they bring pens? | |
| I don't have anything else. | |
| I should have brought you some Romanian money. | |
| Oh, I would have loved that. | |
| I like collecting currencies from other countries. | |
| I'll bring you some pens. | |
| I'm a collector. | |
| I'm an appreciator and enjoyer of foreign currencies. | |
| Give me coins and shit. | |
| Give me some Zimbabwean million-dollar bills or something. | |
| You guys don't take our stimulus. | |
| Inflation. | |
| No, we don't. | |
| We have $29 TTS. | |
| Get it in, boys. | |
| I need to fix that. | |
| Oh, do you guys think a woman's past should not matter starting with you? | |
| Like body count, body count. | |
| Oh, no, I don't think that should matter. | |
| Shouldn't matter. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Nah. | |
| Nah. | |
| Okay, shouldn't matter. | |
| What about, what do you think? | |
| Not if it's completely removed and moving forward. | |
| Vagina? | |
| God, no. | |
| I mean, gosh, no. | |
| Oh. | |
| No, her past. | |
| Her past, I see. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| No, I think more experience is better. | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah, that is. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| Erroneous. | |
| Sorry, didn't mean to play that. | |
| I don't know what that means. | |
| You got to get your buttons together. | |
| Did you want to play what you meant? | |
| No, I meant to play that. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't think a man should be worried about a woman's past. | |
| You worried about her past. | |
| You need to be worried about the future. | |
| That just means you have a red flag already. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| I think it matters to a certain point. | |
| I think like expecting having no forgiveness or expecting I have no past is a little unfair, but I think there's a threshold there for sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| It does matter, but there should always be room for grace. | |
| Chloe, your thoughts? | |
| I think for men and women, I think past behavior can be indicative of future behavior. | |
| It just depends on how much work they've done on themselves, how much accountability they can take, and whether or not they recognize that they're bad habits or bad habits. | |
| So it begets the question then: past shouldn't matter, doesn't matter, body count shouldn't matter. | |
| What's your body count starting with you? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Didn't you say it last time? | |
| No, I got kicked off before it got to you. | |
| Pretty sure you said it. | |
| I was too late. | |
| Didn't you say it was like 60? | |
| No, I never gave my body count because I don't keep up with that number. | |
| Well, what? | |
| So I guess what is it then? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I mean, I don't keep count every time I have something. | |
| I'm going to have a ballpark range. | |
| No. | |
| Guesstimate. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Estimate. | |
| That's my guesstimate. | |
| Is it over 100? | |
| I really couldn't tell you. | |
| Over 1,000? | |
| I think keeping up with your body count is like, so high school. | |
| So, okay, what was it in high school? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I stopped counting after like 10 fucking sneaky. | |
| Wait, you stopped counting after 10 in high school? | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| Right. | |
| Did you get held back a grade? | |
| Because maybe we can go to 19 then. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Held back a grade? | |
| Like the body, you know, most people graduate around 18. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But maybe you got a lot of money. | |
| I'm held back a grade 17. | |
| I love that for you. | |
| Oh my god, I was writing. | |
| That's great. | |
| Me too. | |
| W. How do you think exploring sexually in a positive way should always be a thing? | |
| Ballpark. | |
| Well, I'm not a virgin. | |
| I'm not telling you. | |
| You can't ask you that. | |
| She's 18. | |
| No, I could ask her. | |
| Okay, so not a virgin. | |
| Is it less than I'm not telling you? | |
| Less than 10. | |
| Maybe you could vote. | |
| You could talk about your body count. | |
| So nine. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| I kid. | |
| Body count? | |
| Eight, no. | |
| Eight. | |
| Eight. | |
| Eighty. | |
| Eight. | |
| Oh, I thought you said eight oh. | |
| No, I said eight and oh. | |
| It was seven. | |
| Eight, eight and oh. | |
| Eight, no. | |
| Eight now. | |
| Um, eight now. | |
| Can you do a Scottish dance for us? | |
| Just kidding. | |
| What? | |
| Like the Scottish, I don't know. | |
| Like Achille. | |
| Or that's the Irish. | |
| I know the Irish video. | |
| You would play the bagpipe. | |
| Body count. | |
| Again, my 20s were very frivolous. | |
| It's okay. | |
| It's okay. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| This is a safe space. | |
| Oh, you're hilarious. | |
| Safe space here. | |
| That is funny. | |
| That is the most entertaining statement of the evening. | |
| Very safe. | |
| Safest space. | |
| Like I said. | |
| Well, you did the adult content, so there's probably a number there. | |
| They're definitely, well, I will be honest. | |
| As far as my relations in that regard, definitely more that were work-related than in my personal life. | |
| In my personal life, I can count on less than two hands how many people I've been with. | |
| You didn't have sex with civilians. | |
| You only have sex. | |
| Normies. | |
| Normies. | |
| The civilians. | |
| Do you know what it was for work? | |
| Like I said, my 20s were very frivolous. | |
| The behavior was very frivolous. | |
| Over 100? | |
| Yeah, for work, though. | |
| You were shooting porn. | |
| I don't have those answers. | |
| But you think, like, ballpark over 100? | |
| What's going to be, what, what's going to be that statement that's going to make people go, oh, oh, my gosh, she did that? | |
| Just whatever the truth is. | |
| Don't worry about that. | |
| No, I'm telling you the truth. | |
| Like, my 20s were very frivolous. | |
| I don't know how many. | |
| Yeah, I get it. | |
| It was frivolous. | |
| Do you know your body count? | |
| Yeah, about yours, Brian. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| No, what's yours? | |
| No look. | |
| I'm a virgin. | |
| Oh. | |
| Hey, that's my thing. | |
| I'm a virgin. | |
| I love that for you. | |
| I've never had carnal knowledge of a woman. | |
| We can tell. | |
| I've never felt the warm embrace of a woman's arms. | |
| That explains all the virgins in the chat, too. | |
| Virgins fall over. | |
| You're right. | |
| All of my viewers, they're all virgins. | |
| They've never had sexual intercourse with them. | |
| I don't have sex with them. | |
| It is. | |
| Don't do that. | |
| But look. | |
| How many scenes have you shot? | |
| Like over 100? | |
| No. | |
| Probably, I think 40, 40. | |
| 40. | |
| Okay, all right. | |
| Body count. | |
| Probably in the 30s. | |
| 30s. | |
| Thank you for sharing. | |
| Dia. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| That was terrible. | |
| Disregard. | |
| Body count. | |
| You don't think that's a good idea. | |
| Yeah, you already asked me. | |
| Yeah, you said like 70 or something. | |
| I couldn't give you a number. | |
| I'm going to be honest. | |
| I'm just not going to answer that out of respect for my partner. | |
| My brother's watching. | |
| My dad's watching. | |
| I'm just not going to answer that. | |
| Rookie numbers compared to what I've heard. | |
| No judgment. | |
| Just. | |
| No, none take it. | |
| There's things that I've done in the past that I'm not proud of. | |
| Oh, you're a virgin. | |
| Just let her finish. | |
| Come on. | |
| There are things in the past that I'm not proud of, but zero. | |
| Okay, okay, okay. | |
| I mean, she's done other sexual things. | |
| Chloe. | |
| Not a hand job. | |
| What's that, Nick? | |
| Said it into the right. | |
| Oh, yes. | |
| Oh, are we Body count. | |
| Are we including women? | |
| We break it down between the genders. | |
| Break it down. | |
| I've slept with a total of 11 people. | |
| Sweet. | |
| This for everybody, whether you answered or not. | |
| Multiply it by three, and that's the real number. | |
| It's the math. | |
| We have to stick to the math. | |
| I can swear on God. | |
| That's what J. Cole said. | |
| That's what J. Cole said. | |
| Wait. | |
| Who the fuck is that guy? | |
| What J. Cole is? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| Ryan just like, hey, Nobi. | |
| I listen to Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots. | |
| Pearl Jam's a shit. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Oh, I thought you said it was a shitty band. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| I was like, what the fuck, Chloe? | |
| Damn. | |
| I'm about to fight a Canadian today. | |
| No, I was just going to be deeply hurt. | |
| I'm deeply hurt. | |
| You won't do the machine gun. | |
| Ryan's number one, SEMO, donated $30. | |
| Please make the machine gun sound your speakers. | |
| Go on, do it. | |
| You go piss. | |
| No, now I'm embarrassed. | |
| I feel like I'm going to fuck it up. | |
| You put us all on the spot. | |
| That's so true. | |
| So it's only right. | |
| Todd donated $30. | |
| Roma, you rock. | |
| I'll do it. | |
| C1, C2, C3, C4, C5 are weird. | |
| What up, Todd? | |
| What the fuck is that? | |
| That's good. | |
| Stay moist. | |
| Todd, me and my partner, we have a side business. | |
| We run a retro video game and a console store on Whatnot. | |
| And you can find us, Final Boss Arcades. | |
| And Todd is a fucking American from that website. | |
| And he's so funny. | |
| Whenever he goes live, he plays the saga, I am a real American. | |
| We love Todd. | |
| Can we go back to Brian to machine gun noises? | |
| Stick them up. | |
| I need to speak French. | |
| Now make the sound. | |
| Bonjour. | |
| Do this end. | |
| Then stick it up. | |
| Why again, baby wipes? | |
| I will do Denny's baby gun. | |
| For practice. | |
| Practice of what? | |
| She needs to practice her mothering skills. | |
| I will do the machine gun noise if everybody here reveals their body count. | |
| We just did. | |
| No, you guys were like, eh, no one did share. | |
| I told him. | |
| I need the approximate number. | |
| We also do a segment called Taking Off Your Makeup. | |
| I love this one. | |
| So if you guys, are you wearing makeup? | |
| Makeup? | |
| I'm going to take my makeup off. | |
| Makeup, you guys will take your makeup off? | |
| I'm hot. | |
| I'll take my face makeup. | |
| I can tell. | |
| This is really hard to go off. | |
| Take those lashes off, put them in the drink cup, and then shoot it. | |
| If you shoot your fake lashes, can you consume fake lashes in the event of emergency? | |
| Like, if you're starving, you're like, fuck, I need sustenance. | |
| Can you do it? | |
| I don't like these wipes, though. | |
| Like, do you know you can eat a wallet? | |
| Like, if it's leather, you can eat leather. | |
| I'm vegan. | |
| It's because it comes from like animals. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Can you show up and do the machine gun noises? | |
| Can you reveal the body count? | |
| I just did. | |
| You said eight. | |
| I could literally need it. | |
| I need everybody, though, at the table. | |
| I've sat with eight people. | |
| One professional. | |
| Well, you know what? | |
| That's so unfortunate. | |
| I don't care. | |
| I don't need no machine gun no more. | |
| No machine gun. | |
| Sorry, fancy machine gun. | |
| Someone paid you to get it. | |
| What is Felicity doing back there? | |
| Felicity's just been being a little fucking. | |
| You have an eyelash in your eye. | |
| We'll start tweaking out back here instead of it. | |
| Can you speak French then? | |
| Because that poor man paid you to do it and you're not getting it. | |
| I'll speak French if you do a Scottish dance. | |
| You can't move a goal. | |
| You can't do a Keeley? | |
| Without little kids popping out and you get a band on YouTube. | |
| Sorry. | |
| How is she going to bounce around? | |
| You know what? | |
| Dude, a Scottish dance. | |
| I can do it. | |
| Do we have any blue paint? | |
| We're going to paint your face partially blue like great art. | |
| And we're going to get you a fucking sword. | |
| I have a sword in the studio. | |
| That's fine. | |
| And you're going to do that. | |
| I'm going to give her a sword. | |
| I know. | |
| Stop and give me a sword. | |
| We're going to do that. | |
| No, do machine gun or speak faster. | |
| Is Chloe the only one take you guys gonna take your makeup off or not? | |
| Oh, wait. | |
| Oh, she's doing it. | |
| She's skipping my bedroom. | |
| I didn't realize it was optional. | |
| No, it's mandatory. | |
| Mandatory. | |
| You're forced. | |
| Do you not have anything better than makeup wipes? | |
| I'm not repping my skin off. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're little pamper princess over here. | |
| You need the premium makeup wipe. | |
| I do. | |
| When you're done, hold it up to the screen. | |
| Hold it up. | |
| Hold up the wipe. | |
| Spread the makeup wipe. | |
| Okay, we have spread. | |
| No, not the cheeks. | |
| The makeup wipe. | |
| Christopher, I think I have a question that doesn't require body count to be given and still gets the point across. | |
| Does your body count exceed the number of romantic? | |
| By the way, guys, send these through, not YouTube, Streamlabs. | |
| Romantic relationships you've had that lasted longer than a year. | |
| Christopher, you ugly. | |
| You need to lose a little bit of weight. | |
| Oh, hey, fast shaming. | |
| Peace for yourself. | |
| Hey, be nice. | |
| I'm a fat shamer, man. | |
| I don't give a damn. | |
| I hate fat people. | |
| Whoa, whoa, okay. | |
| That's a crazy thing, bro. | |
| Oh, damn. | |
| By the way, that means you hate a couple people at the table right now, including myself. | |
| I hate when people don't take care of their bodies. | |
| I don't care. | |
| Yeah, I do hate that you're fat. | |
| But you did lose a couple pounds. | |
| I see you taught the show when you know I was coming back because I did talk about your weight the last podcast. | |
| And that's why fast shaming is necessary because you've been working on that weight ever since, I bet. | |
| As he should, she's saying, though, I've lost weight for her. | |
| Yeah, you have. | |
| As he should. | |
| Hey, we all need to get a little bit of a shot. | |
| Didn't you get a haircut for her, too? | |
| Yeah, he did. | |
| He got a little line up. | |
| She's like, who we said earlier? | |
| The stars are aligning here. | |
| You know how you're asking us to take off our makeup? | |
| Why don't you shave your beard? | |
| Same thing, bro. | |
| No, I can keep the beard. | |
| You can find. | |
| Yeah, okay, Nick, pull up young Brian. | |
| It's just young Brian. | |
| You guys haven't seen Young Brian? | |
| Scroll down, scroll down. | |
| You can pull up. | |
| Also, we need to do the bow video. | |
| We need to do the bow video. | |
| We're going to do that. | |
| Got to get it in. | |
| Got to get it in. | |
| Gotta do it in Shingon, but you're not doing it. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Tell you what, sing the Scottish national anthem. | |
| Sang it. | |
| Brilliant. | |
| Sing it. | |
| Well, Flare of Scotland. | |
| That's no, you gotta be like that. | |
| I'm not speaking that shit. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Wow, you're Scottish. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I'm just gonna sing it. | |
| Leave me alone. | |
| Just camera shy. | |
| You know what? | |
| Would you be offended if I wore a kilt? | |
| Well, appropriations. | |
| I would be offended because what am I gonna see sitting over here, Brian? | |
| Well, see, to be honest, I would wear like a makeup. | |
| If you wore it like a true Scotsman, I'd probably crawl up under there. | |
| So I can fly. | |
| Whoa, wait, hold on. | |
| I wanna go. | |
| I wanna go. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| You gotta wear it with no underwear. | |
| So is that the way this you don't wear anything under your friend? | |
| Do you want to know why? | |
| So, like, during the war against England. | |
| I didn't know anyone. | |
| They used to show their asses on the, like, to the moon. | |
| Yeah, they would move people. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I see. | |
| Scottish people are funny. | |
| I'm going to say. | |
| Can you pass those back down this way and just pass them? | |
| What do we do with these? | |
| No, don't just pass them to them. | |
| I wasn't showing that. | |
| I was showing the bug. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Just pass them. | |
| We have. | |
| Uh-oh. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| Jeff Dill Pickles donated $100. | |
| Hippos are always vegan. | |
| Brian, why are you still fat? | |
| Fat shampoo. | |
| Hey, look, boys, I'm losing the weight, okay? | |
| It's coming off. | |
| Pound by pound. | |
| It's work in progress. | |
| I thought you were French. | |
| Speak French. | |
| No. | |
| People have paid for your service, bro. | |
| Bubs be snapping, donated $29. | |
| They got to pay the right price. | |
| Nope. | |
| Also, hey, Roma, I love your content so much. | |
| I tuned into this show and even paid $30 just to say keep making great content. | |
| There you go. | |
| Thanks, brother. | |
| There you go. | |
| Look. | |
| That's sweet. | |
| I will do the machine gun noise for a champagne pop. | |
| That's it. | |
| $1,000. | |
| Hey, I'm damn good. | |
| I'm pricing. | |
| Machine gun. | |
| Clearly. | |
| It's terrible. | |
| That's really good. | |
| Totally terrible. | |
| That's why you're not doing it. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| Probably. | |
| Probably. | |
| You speak French and you can't. | |
| I guess French is a lot of like back the tongue. | |
| It's a lot of fun. | |
| Can you speak French? | |
| European languages that are French. | |
| Oh, sure. | |
| You can't. | |
| Can you go with me? | |
| No, I can't do that. | |
| You speak French. | |
| Do you have a tongue tie? | |
| Do you have like this part? | |
| The epiglottis or something. | |
| I gotta look at the camera. | |
| No, I'm good. | |
| I'm not gonna stress. | |
| Do I hate this? | |
| This is a fucking shit. | |
| Hey, young Brian. | |
| Young Brian. | |
| Yeah, let's see. | |
| Scroll down to the. | |
| That's no young Brian. | |
| You're trying to get it. | |
| That's bug. | |
| Click on the surf one where I'm like taking off my wetsuit or whatever. | |
| I just wash my face. | |
| Look at the surface. | |
| Young Brian. | |
| You have your face, isn't there? | |
| Where's your face? | |
| Scroll up. | |
| Click the tank top one. | |
| Not the tank top. | |
| I think younger you would look better with the beard that you got right now. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| Okay. | |
| I disagree. | |
| Did you play football? | |
| Soccer. | |
| Soccer. | |
| This is from an old video I did where I pretended to be. | |
| People said I looked like. | |
| Click on RL9. | |
| We love football. | |
| It's Robert Lewandowski. | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| People said I looked like him. | |
| This is 10 years ago, by the way. | |
| No, you don't. | |
| But 10 years ago. | |
| A little bit. | |
| People are like, I was about to say all white people look alike, so I couldn't. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Me and Violet, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, you're a man and she's a woman. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, I wouldn't say you don't look alike. | |
| Felicity and do they look alike? | |
| No, she got blonde hair. | |
| She is a ginger. | |
| Violet looks like a girl. | |
| But if you put like 20 white people in a room, I wouldn't be able to tell who is. | |
| Oh, the guy from Harry Potter. | |
| Come on. | |
| Really? | |
| That's not the oldest trick in the book. | |
| That's really racist. | |
| Really? | |
| A little bit. | |
| What did she say? | |
| She said. | |
| That's just like the go-to ginger that everybody says. | |
| Let's say that she's a bitch. | |
| You're gorgeous. | |
| I'm not being mean. | |
| You just fucking hate crime. | |
| No, I'm not being mean. | |
| You fucking hate crime turns. | |
| I bet you're against your laws, don't do it. | |
| Yeah, you would be arrested in the streets. | |
| You'd be arrested for fucking hate criming a redhead. | |
| Come here, this is listening. | |
| The only hate crime that Felicity commits are those against police cars. | |
| They don't get it. | |
| It's an inside joke for whatever viewers. | |
| Anyways, oh, the bow video. | |
| So, guys, I want to show you a video. | |
| This is, you know, we didn't really talk a whole bunch about dating, but this is sort of dating related. | |
| I have very high expectations of the person that I'm dating. | |
| I have very high expectations. | |
| I want her to be a base, submissive housewife, minus the marriage part. | |
| But from the get-go, early on in the relationship, immediately, I took a video because what I wanted to do, I have a training course for new girlfriends. | |
| It's a training program, six-week intensive program to get you on track to be the best girlfriend for me ever. | |
| So I took videos of like when I was dating somebody, like to show future girlfriends how they should act properly. | |
| Did she hurt you? | |
| Did she hurt me? | |
| Well, so I'm going to show you a video I took. | |
| This is my ex-girlfriend, Nick. | |
| Go ahead, get it going. | |
| So I expect a woman when I get home from work. | |
| Yeah, she's going. | |
| Oh, she definitely consented. | |
| Holy shit, vape clowns. | |
| Okay. | |
| You're good. | |
| Yeah, so this is a video I took. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Boom. | |
| She has to bow immediately once I get home. | |
| Long day at work. | |
| Need to bow. | |
| Is it Victoria? | |
| Violet. | |
| Violet. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| You just said it. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's not your girlfriend. | |
| Victoria's shocked. | |
| Wait, sorry. | |
| Violet is shocked. | |
| My God. | |
| So she gets me my beer. | |
| Food's ready. | |
| Dinner's ready. | |
| As soon as I get home, smile on the face. | |
| I did dump her, though, because you see that in the right bottom right corner, she has just raw tomatoes. | |
| I had to dump her because of that. | |
| Yeah, agreed. | |
| Yeah, bow one more time. | |
| Play the bow part. | |
| This is the most important. | |
| Huge boom. | |
| You see the depth? | |
| You see the rack on her? | |
| She had bang titties. | |
| I also dumped her because she had fake titties, but because I don't really like fake titties. | |
| But you see the submissive hand posture? | |
| That's what I expect. | |
| Is it like a sex thing? | |
| No. | |
| She's not in her head. | |
| It is. | |
| It is. | |
| I could be asexual. | |
| But yeah, this is a sex thing. | |
| I'm totally here for it. | |
| I'll bow down. | |
| No, this is just like normal. | |
| It has nothing to do with it. | |
| This is like normal, everyday funsies. | |
| Why are you trolling? | |
| I'm not sure. | |
| Yeah, she's not your age. | |
| She's so bad. | |
| You thinking it's a joke. | |
| Wow. | |
| You thinking that that's a joke, but have you actually got a woman to do that for you? | |
| A woman to bow? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Because if you can't, then I mean, you're just not that man. | |
| He's gone. | |
| Because I don't know if I had a man in my face that I wanted, I will bow for him. | |
| But if you not getting a woman to do that for you, then you know. | |
| Can I say something? | |
| Can I assume very ignorant? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Is that like part of her culture, like to bow? | |
| Because I only date black women now. | |
| So I even get the bow from black women. | |
| Okay. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| I also date white and Asian and Latino. | |
| And they all do the bow. | |
| I would like to say. | |
| All will do the bow. | |
| All do the bow. | |
| An Asian puncher. | |
| When you bow the steeper, I guess. | |
| The lower the bow in most respects. | |
| She wasn't bowing very low for you, Brian. | |
| Well, look, you know, she was preoccupied. | |
| She was a bit preoccupied, you know, doing the laundry and also, you know, with the food. | |
| She also suffered from thoracic back pain. | |
| So I give her a pass. | |
| I gave her a pass. | |
| She had a car accident. | |
| Sorry, train, terrible train accident. | |
| Did she die? | |
| No. | |
| Well, no, she was right there. | |
| She was bowing. | |
| But unfortunately, that was pretty good depth, you know? | |
| Look, it was quick. | |
| She knew she had other things to do. | |
| But you are right to point that out, Chloe. | |
| I did actually, that was the other reason I dumped her. | |
| The bow wasn't deep enough. | |
| Yeah, that's fair. | |
| That is fair. | |
| So going around the table, what do you think? | |
| Like, would you, for your dream guy, would you bow? | |
| No. | |
| Nope. | |
| Not for the dream guy. | |
| Dream woman? | |
| Are you going to die? | |
| My dream guy wouldn't. | |
| My dream guy wouldn't want me to do that. | |
| My fiancé. | |
| But hypothetically. | |
| Hypothetically, your dream guy, to get your dream guy, you had to do that. | |
| I wouldn't do it. | |
| Okay. | |
| Because that would be like a deal breaker for me. | |
| Why would you want me to do that? | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Would you bow for your dream guy? | |
| Knowing how rare the dream man is. | |
| I would bow for my man, but I just don't think I could get back up again. | |
| Oh, definitely bad. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Okay, would you bow for your dream guy? | |
| Into the mic. | |
| Into the mic. | |
| Oh my God, look how far the mic has shifted, by the way. | |
| Well, you know what? | |
| I'm going to start charging a tax. | |
| I'm charging a tax. | |
| Every time a woman moves a microphone on this podcast, they have to pay me how much cash you got on hand. | |
| This is a shaky. | |
| Do you guys carry cash here? | |
| I know. | |
| That sounds absolutely like, who carries cash? | |
| So, okay. | |
| Would you bow for the dream guy? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Basically, bowing is such a, I can't answer it. | |
| It's such a strange concept. | |
| Completely 1,000% submitting to him in any form, absolutely. | |
| But the act of the music is not. | |
| Wait, how? | |
| That would literally encompass if you're 100% submissive and he was like, I want you to bow for me every time I come home from work. | |
| That would encompass you. | |
| See, this is the thing. | |
| I would do it, but I would not be able to keep a straight face. | |
| Okay, whatever. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Okay, would you bow for... | |
| No. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Honestly, my dream, God could tell me to do anything. | |
| He could tell me to jump. | |
| I'm going to say how high, because that's what a woman's supposed to do. | |
| There we go. | |
| I'm going to submit to a man that I want. | |
| Let's go. | |
| And that's what men need to understand. | |
| If she ain't doing what you want, she don't like you. | |
| And women, too. | |
| That's just that simple. | |
| Because people are going to do what they want to do for people that they like. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| And I'm going to bow down, get on my knees, all that. | |
| Yeah, I got my energy. | |
| Violet, what do you think? | |
| I'm on my hands and knees for the man. | |
| She can do whatever she wants. | |
| That's not my business. | |
| I wouldn't do that. | |
| But what do you think about her general thoughts on that? | |
| Her general thoughts on that? | |
| Yeah. | |
| A bit degrading. | |
| Well, she's saying, if you really like the guy, you'll do. | |
| I don't know if you said anything, but you said. | |
| Oh, I'm going to do anything. | |
| Okay, there you go. | |
| I would not. | |
| Okay. | |
| Would you bow for your dream guy? | |
| Well, I have my dream guy. | |
| I think it would be. | |
| Would you bow? | |
| If like all of a sudden, though, like after years, he was like, Are you watching right now? | |
| I don't believe so. | |
| If you're watching right now, dream guy that she's currently dating and serenading every night with her piano. | |
| Do you do that? | |
| You should. | |
| You should get on that. | |
| What if he wanted you to serenade him every night? | |
| Oh, that I would do. | |
| Yeah, he would listen to me playing the piano and saying. | |
| If you're watching, you must ask her for a bow. | |
| Okay? | |
| Cool. | |
| There's quite a time zone between us right now, so I don't think that's the case. | |
| Well, next time you see him, that's do that shit. | |
| Would you do it, though? | |
| Would you bow? | |
| Yes or no? | |
| Like, there would have to be some rationale by out of nowhere. | |
| Like, I'd have said, hey, I want you to start bowing. | |
| I'd be like, okay, we need to elaborate on what the re, like, what's going on here? | |
| Okay. | |
| He was like, you know what? | |
| I'm a big fan of the whatever podcast. | |
| Brian, in all his wealth of knowledge, suggested that women should bow to their boyfriends or husbands or, you know, whatever it is. | |
| Oh, and then if that was the case, I'd be like, you know what? | |
| There's a lot of women out there that think, you know, their man should pay for everything. | |
| And that, so then I'd have demands to start making too, if that's the game we're going to start playing. | |
| As you should. | |
| I have a car payment. | |
| In fact, I want a new car. | |
| You know, let's put all this in. | |
| What about you? | |
| You bow for your guy? | |
| I'm going to think of it in a little higher sense than that. | |
| But when it comes to a dream guy, if you want to marry quality, you have to be quality. | |
| So yes. | |
| Is that a yes you would bow? | |
| I'll leave it at that. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| She would bow to the right man. | |
| Why is this even like a question you need to be vague about? | |
| It's not like revealing your body count. | |
| Why do you need to leave it at that? | |
| Can you just be like, yeah, do that shit? | |
| Because I'm not really getting a clear answer if you would bow or not bow. | |
| And I don't think your answer is like, would be poorly reflected upon you either way. | |
| I can agree to disagree. | |
| Wait, what? | |
| Hold on. | |
| But if you don't give the answer, there's nothing to agree or disagree on. | |
| You're just being like, well, I'm just going to be mysterious and vague and not answer the question. | |
| I'm not going to say that. | |
| Freedom of speech. | |
| I thought you were going to say that. | |
| The only person you bowed to is God. | |
| That's what I thought you were going to say. | |
| It's free country. | |
| Wait, just answer the question, please. | |
| Hmm. | |
| Oh my god, bro. | |
| I thought you were going to say the only man you'll bow to is God. | |
| Yeah, that's what I thought. | |
| I was now that. | |
| Wait, let's let her answer. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Now that I think of it, me and my future husband would bow to Christ together. | |
| But hold on. | |
| What is that Bible verse that says that the wife is to submit on I'm totally butchering this? | |
| The wife is to submit onto her husband as she would onto the Lord. | |
| That's probably butchered, but it's something like that. | |
| And then the following line is that the husband needs to love his wife like Christ loves the church. | |
| Perfect. | |
| I totally agree. | |
| But if your husband is acting appropriately as it relates to whatever, the faith, and he's like, hey, I want you to bow for me. | |
| Wouldn't that be part of biblical submission? | |
| That if your husband is asking for it, you would do it? | |
| If the intent is. | |
| To answer that question, I would hope that the man that I have very high standards for would never even think to ask or have me do that. | |
| Wait, you act like this is a fucking war crime. | |
| Like I'm fucking war criming my girlfriends because I want them to literally do a bow. | |
| Hold on, that's crazy. | |
| Wait, what if your husband had an expectation of like within the marriage of having sex with you? | |
| If we're married, let's go for it. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| But like having sex is a way more involved physical activity than just doing a bow. | |
| What if you flip it? | |
| Would you like the mic? | |
| Would you like the man to bow to you? | |
| Would you do that? | |
| No, I don't think she wouldn't want that. | |
| No. | |
| No, I wouldn't want anyone to bow to me. | |
| Nobody. | |
| There's only one person that's worthy of being bowed to. | |
| Of the bowing of the knee. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| But bowing is not an act of worship. | |
| It's a show of respect. | |
| So it wouldn't be like idolatry. | |
| You can bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ. | |
| Would you bow to the Pope? | |
| Pardon? | |
| You're not Catholic, are you? | |
| Mind. | |
| You can hate my answer. | |
| Brian, would you bow to a woman? | |
| Yeah, would you? | |
| So generally speaking, no, but to the perfect woman, sure. | |
| Like, if the entailment is to get my perfect woman, even I, as a man, would do like this sort of submissive act, which would be like somewhat not natural, I guess. | |
| Could you do a machine gun noise? | |
| Yeah, I'll do a machine gun noise. | |
| I'll do a lot for the perfect woman because I realize that most of us are not going to get the perfect partner. | |
| We're going to have to make a whole bunch of compromises. | |
| That's sad. | |
| Like maybe women don't realize this, but yeah, you're going to have to compromise. | |
| You're not going to get the perfect guy. | |
| And you can do backwards rationalization of like, oh, this person I'm with now, they're perfect. | |
| No, they're not perfect. | |
| But my entailment would be the perfect woman has like, is like a 10 out of 10 perfect in terms of like what I look for. | |
| Face, body, personality, 10 out of 10 in terms of what I look for. | |
| She's also like a trillionaire. | |
| So I'm like, that would be an entailment. | |
| Got you, I got you. | |
| So, yeah, like, okay, if I... | |
| You better. | |
| But that's the thing. | |
| Like, would we're talking dream guy? | |
| Would you bow for the perfect guy? | |
| So this, this. | |
| I've already told you I would bow for. | |
| Well, those of you who said no, what if we up the ante here? | |
| What if we up the ante? | |
| It's your dream guy, and he's also a billionaire. | |
| And by being involved with him, you literally have thousand-year dynasty levels of wealth for yourself, for your family. | |
| You never have to work a day in your life again. | |
| Most people who are dating are not going to ever date somebody who's that wealthy. | |
| Even if you date like a guy who has a good job, good chance most women are going to have to work. | |
| Well, that's not the perfect guy for everybody. | |
| Like, I don't think materialistically like that. | |
| Well, hold on. | |
| I would say if the guy is perfect in terms of looks and personality and value alignment or whatever, and then you add on top of that this little cherry on top, and this might even be more than just the cherry on top. | |
| It could actually be a bulk of the reason why you want to date this person. | |
| They also happen to be like a multi-billionaire. | |
| That would be like so remarkably huge for your life. | |
| I mean, I just nothing to do with what I look for in a man. | |
| And honestly, like that. | |
| You wouldn't. | |
| No. | |
| You wouldn't. | |
| Just to be clear. | |
| I'm not even kidding. | |
| That could turn me off of somebody. | |
| All things being equal, like the guy looks the same, the guy has the same personality, but one dude works at McDonald's and the other is a billionaire. | |
| You're telling me you're picking the McDonald's guy over the billionaire? | |
| I, I mean, they're the same. | |
| Same guy, except for their. | |
| I don't like the idea of being with a billionaire at all. | |
| Why? | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's not a problem. | |
| Oh, are you like a communist or something? | |
| Am I a communist? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Are you anti-capitalist? | |
| In some ways. | |
| Are you like, eat the rich? | |
| That's like it's bad to be a billionaire. | |
| I mean, in some ways, yes, in some ways, no. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Okay. | |
| So why would it be, I guess, bad to be with a billionaire? | |
| It's just my personal preference. | |
| Like, it's not, I'm not saying it's bad to be with a billionaire. | |
| I'm just saying, like, I didn't grow up with much money. | |
| I'm attracted to people who probably weren't similar to me. | |
| Like, somebody who's a billionaire has a totally different perspective on life than I do. | |
| Well, how about, for the sake of the hypothetical, the guy grew up in your similar socioeconomic status and then he went on to become a billionaire? | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, okay, so how about that versus a guy who grew up in your socioeconomic status and went on to be a manager at like a mid-tier restaurant? | |
| I mean, like, you wouldn't have any preference towards the billionaire? | |
| I might. | |
| I've never been in that situation. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Like, just hop with the bad. | |
| I have to be honest with you. | |
| I think it's almost worse if you start from nothing and you become a billionaire. | |
| And while I respect that, I think in order to start from nothing and become a billionaire, like what it would take, I don't think you can be a good, honest, moral person and climb up a ladder in that amount of time. | |
| Yes. | |
| In order to become from nothing to a billionaire, you have to snap on people. | |
| You have to be shrewd. | |
| You have to be decisive. | |
| Not necessarily. | |
| Money don't make you who you are. | |
| Money just to be able to do that. | |
| However, but in order to make money, anybody that's rich is willing to do things that people are unwilling to do or uncapable of doing. | |
| How do we get on that topic? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because I don't think people that are a self-made billionaire, a lot of the time, the same characteristics that made them successful in business or made them a billionaire would be characteristics that make them not desirable to be in a relationship with. | |
| But in the hypothetical, like granted, perfect personality. | |
| Okay, if it was a perfect. | |
| Well, that was what was perfect and there was no. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| He fucking invested in Bitcoin when it was worth a dollar. | |
| Now he's a billionaire. | |
| How about that? | |
| Is that evil? | |
| No, I just don't like billions, I mean, compared to millions or so astronomical. | |
| Billions in crypto. | |
| People have made billions of dollars in crypto. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yes. | |
| Then I just learned that. | |
| Well, it's logically possible that I didn't know that we had any crypto billionaires. | |
| Excuse me. | |
| Okay, if Bitcoin is worth $100,000 and it used to be, I believe it was worth less than $1, what would be the math there? | |
| Would have had to have had like a thousand bitcoins. | |
| Is my math? | |
| I'm sorry, I'm not a fucking math major here. | |
| It would be a wait. | |
| Hold on. | |
| A thousand. | |
| Wait, I'm cooked. | |
| 1,000 times 100,000. | |
| Is that a billion? | |
| Is that a billy? | |
| Oh, no, that's 100 million. | |
| Okay, sorry, hold on. | |
| If you had 10,000 Bitcoin, if you had $10,000 and you invested in Bitcoin when it was worth a dollar, that would make you a billionaire. | |
| You'd have a billion dollars. | |
| So when was it? | |
| Are there individuals that have done that, have achieved that feat? | |
| That's awesome. | |
| I didn't know that. | |
| I mean, probably the people that invented the coins or whatever, probably they definitely billionaires. | |
| Even other cryptocurrencies, the guy who did Ethereum, he probably, I'm pretty sure he's a billionaire. | |
| So, I mean, but even investors have made, maybe it's not billions, but a lot of people have become millionaires overnight. | |
| Sorry, I shouldn't say overnight. | |
| But through cryptocurrency, a lot of people have definitely, definitely become very wealthy from crypto. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| I'm not going to be able to do that or deny that people are incredibly wealthy. | |
| I just think billionaire, you know, is the amount of wealth that is a billionaire. | |
| I think a lot of people very casually throw the term around without realizing just how much that wealth that truly is. | |
| I mean, there's very few billionaires. | |
| Would y'all rather be with a billionaire that's only about his business or a poor man that's all about your feelings? | |
| Huh? | |
| What was the question? | |
| Would you rather be with a billionaire that's all about his business and just his business or a poor man that's just about your feelings? | |
| Aw, I like a poor man. | |
| I've had enough money. | |
| I'm fine. | |
| Wait, I don't want to quite let you escape, though. | |
| So you wouldn't bow to even the perfect guy? | |
| Can I bow to end this conversation? | |
| Do you want to give an answer on this? | |
| I bow to the perfect guy every day. | |
| Can you speak into the mic, please? | |
| I bow to the perfect guy every day. | |
| Lord and Savior. | |
| So, okay. | |
| So, Ephesians 5.22, wives, be submissive to your own husbands as onto the Lord. | |
| For the husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head and savior of the church, which is his body. | |
| Wait, so you wouldn't, bow, but I can't do porn? | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| No, Not letting you fucking do that. | |
| Same thing. | |
| So if your husband is the head of the household, I mean, it seems quite clear. | |
| Wives, be submissive to your own husbands as onto the Lord, like the Lord. | |
| Okay, so when it comes to me and my future husband, we're probably going to be doing a lot more fun things than bowing to each other. | |
| Yeah, that's not an argument. | |
| That's not a counter argument. | |
| Bowing sound fun to me. | |
| Yeah, me too. | |
| Are you trying to get me to say no? | |
| I guess my. | |
| You don't like my answer, sir. | |
| Well, my issue. | |
| There's two issues I have here. | |
| So there's the secular issue and then the biblical or religious issue. | |
| So given in, for example, like, are you atheist or agnostic? | |
| I grew up Christian, but I'm not Christian. | |
| You'd consider yourself agnostic then or atheist. | |
| Okay. | |
| There's no framework for somebody who's atheist or agnostic really to be, I mean, people can still be submissive if they're atheist or whatever, or agnostic, but that would be like just a determination just on the purely individual self-level. | |
| But there's biblical prescription that says that women, Christian women, are to be submissive to their husbands. | |
| Yes, given their husband is a godly man, as also defined in the Bible. | |
| Of course, it's baked into the fact that you've married him. | |
| If you've married him, you've already probably made a value determination as to if this husband, of course, he's worthy, you married him. | |
| Right. | |
| And that's why I think motive is important for what is the purpose of the bow. | |
| If there is a pure and loving motive behind it, then that's absolutely permissible. | |
| If it's some sort of like ego trip or like for personal gain or mockery or then that would not be Christ-like. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's assume the intentions are good, but it's a temperature check for some what? | |
| So I'm going to change my answer. | |
| Okay. | |
| When I get married, I'm going to bow to my husband just for you. | |
| Well, now you're just being sarcastic, and I don't actually believe that that's your answer. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, the way you were saying it, like, look, I'm, it's not, I wasn't born yesterday. | |
| It was clearly there's a sarcastic tone in the way you were presenting. | |
| I don't know what else to say. | |
| I already gave the answer and you don't like it. | |
| Well, so wait, you gave me the so-called. | |
| No, I am not going to bow to him in the way that you are expecting in the question. | |
| Okay, good, but I don't appreciate the let me just lie and say something that's not the truth. | |
| Just, I don't know, that was I'm not going to jump through a million hoops, sir. | |
| I'm just not a million hoops, lady. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't know. | |
| You should. | |
| I just don't understand from a. | |
| Just be glad that you're not going to marry me then. | |
| So like you'll, you know, I'll spare you all the headaches. | |
| That's great. | |
| That's not an argument, though. | |
| Again, you're a Christian woman. | |
| Again, this just goes back to the thing that we started this conversation off of. | |
| I'm not a vegetarian. | |
| I eat hamburgers. | |
| If I'm encountered with a vegetarian and I see them eating a hamburger, I'm going to be like, whoa, that's kind of crazy. | |
| That doesn't make sense. | |
| Why are you a vegetarian and you're eating a hamburger? | |
| In your case, you're a Christian. | |
| Okay, the Bible. | |
| Hold on. | |
| The Bible calls on wives to be submissive to their husbands as you would unto the Lord. | |
| How, you're just, it doesn't make any sense to me. | |
| Ephesians 5, 22. | |
| This is mainstream Christian doctrine. | |
| Okay, what was your question? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| In your perspective, what does it look like for a woman to submit to her husband? | |
| Please give me a lesson. | |
| What does it look like? | |
| He would be, I mean, it depends if you're asking from a biblical perspective. | |
| I would say typically she defers to his leadership. | |
| She defers to his decision making. | |
| Amen. | |
| Okay, so in if, so if you're dating a guy and he's like, hey, babe, when I get home from work, because by the way, I'm providing for everything here, your stay-at-home mom, your stay-at-home wife, whatever, whatever. | |
| I would like you, when you greet me at the door, to give me a bow. | |
| I'll have to ask my Christian guy friends that and then get back to you. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Why do you need to ask your Christian guy friends when it's literally a Bible verse that I've are you? | |
| You're twisting scripture just like Satan does. | |
| Wow, that's actually cooked. | |
| I'm not twisting scripture at all. | |
| Okay, what did I say? | |
| Do you disagree that it's wives be submissive to your husbands as you would once again? | |
| I look forward to that. | |
| I look forward to submitting to my husband in all these ways that you're saying. | |
| But you're not being submissive if your husband is saying, hold on. | |
| Where does it say bow to him in that way? | |
| Where does it say, hold on, where in the Bible does it say anything about like these, oh my God. | |
| Is it plausible that there could be a modern component to dating that isn't referenced in the Bible? | |
| Where does it, I don't know, again, maybe I could be wrong on this. | |
| Does it say in the Bible that men need to get down on one knee to propose? | |
| Maybe you'd prefer that, though, when the man proposes to you for marriage. | |
| I also think, and I heard Erica Kirk give a really great speech on this, submission is something, though, that is optional and given voluntary. | |
| It's not demanded from the woman. | |
| It's something when you are married that you voluntarily, you want to serve and you want to give up certain parts of your previous life to serve your husband. | |
| It's not something that can be demanded. | |
| Hold on. | |
| So as it relates to men's duties to women, that's completely voluntary also. | |
| So men don't have a duty to protect their wives under a biblical interpretation. | |
| Well, if they're being forced to, then they're not doing it with all their heart or they'll sow all their mind. | |
| If like you're just going through the motions because you're like, well, this is what it says I have to do, then that's not truly living a biblical, godly life. | |
| Do Christian men have a duty to protect their wives? | |
| Yes, but now we've got to do it. | |
| According to the scripture, however. | |
| And according to the scripture, wives, be submissive to your husbands as you would unto the Lord. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I completely agree. | |
| But you should not get married to somebody. | |
| I'm not saying you in particular. | |
| One should not get married to somebody if they do not want to protect them. | |
| If they're just like, oh man, I have this obligation. | |
| Now I have to provide for this bitch. | |
| I really don't want to do it. | |
| I just, now I'm stuck having to do that. | |
| It's an obligation. | |
| Then you shouldn't marry that person. | |
| If a wife is saying, oh, man, now I got to submit to this guy. | |
| You know, I have all my freedom before. | |
| Now I got to do this shit where I never wanted to do it. | |
| Then that's not true submission. | |
| Just like truly protecting somebody. | |
| It's not true protection if you're just doing it because... | |
| Submission is given. | |
| It is not taken, of course. | |
| But it's interesting that men have duties and women don't. | |
| But it's the same thing with protection. | |
| Sure, there's the physical element of protection, but there's also protection, protecting people's emotions, protecting. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Okay, go ahead with your thing. | |
| So Jesus, he used parables. | |
| And if you understand it, you understand it. | |
| And if you don't, and you don't, what I'm going to say, either if you understand it, you do. | |
| If you don't, then there's nothing more I can say. | |
| But to communicate it in a different way, women were made from the ribs of, Eve was made from the ribs of Adam. | |
| What does that have to do with anything? | |
| Can I please finish first, sir, before you judge what I'm going to say? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| So God didn't take any bones from a man's head that he should rule over her like that. | |
| And God did not take Eve from Adam's feet that he should stomp over it, but he took her from his side, the place that is closest to his heart. | |
| If you understand that, you do. | |
| If you don't, you don't. | |
| There's nothing I can say that's going to convince you otherwise. | |
| I don't see how that is at all material to the actual conversation at hand. | |
| You're talking about the rib. | |
| Okay. | |
| How does that counter anything about? | |
| Okay, let me ask you this more simply. | |
| Should wives be submissive to their husbands under a Christian theological perspective? | |
| Are you just trying to have hold me to the business? | |
| How about you just answer the question? | |
| Yes, girl. | |
| Are you trying to begin? | |
| I'm here all night. | |
| I'm bigger than you, Brian. | |
| I don't know how to speak the way that you do. | |
| No, I asked you a question. | |
| So, unless you're saying the Bible is incorrect, Ephesians 5, 22. | |
| You know that that's not true. | |
| What's not true? | |
| That I believe scripture as it's on the page, living in actuality. | |
| Okay, wives. | |
| So do you think then wives should be submissive to their husbands? | |
| Yes, and that's what I look forward to the most about getting married so I can serve my husband and my children. | |
| I want to submit to him. | |
| But it would not be submissive. | |
| But men do have a place where that they can make that submission easier, not lord it over their wives. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Are we still talking about? | |
| Man, the question was, would you bow it? | |
| Look, a bow is not like, I'm not asking you to run. | |
| No, I'm not going to bow. | |
| Okay, that's fine, but a bow is not asking a woman to run a marathon. | |
| It takes zero effort, absolutely no effort. | |
| And it would be under the purview of submitting to your husband. | |
| In which case, you're refusing to submit to your husband. | |
| If you can't submit to a man, maybe you're just gay. | |
| Girl, what? | |
| So that's my confusion, but from just a purely my other confusion here, moving off of religion, moving off of, can you guys not, what the fuck are you guys doing? | |
| I don't know. | |
| They handed me this. | |
| I didn't know what I'm supposed to do with it. | |
| Am I supposed to be able to? | |
| Can you guys not be fucking while I'm talking, please? | |
| So the other component here is more from the secular component. | |
| I just don't understand also this idea of if you could get the dream person, you won't do this completely benign, arbitrary thing. | |
| That's my other, that's my other thing. | |
| I would do benign, arbitrary things that, okay, whatever. | |
| It's like a little weird, strange, whatever. | |
| But if that gets me the perfect person, like, would you rather end up with the imperfect person, but you don't have to, like, that to me is hard to compute. | |
| Like, I don't know if you think you guys are just delusional and you're like, you know what? | |
| I'm so amazing. | |
| I'm definitely going to get a 10 out of 10 perfect person. | |
| All of you, whether you like it or not, are going to fucking settle. | |
| You're going to settle. | |
| You're not going to get the guy who's everything you want. | |
| I'm saying for the perfect guy, that means along all potential metrics, look. | |
| Yeah, me neither. | |
| But everybody settles whether this isn't fairyland here when it comes to dating. | |
| Yeah, there is reality, but I also don't think that you shouldn't not get what you don't want. | |
| Well, settling isn't necessarily a negative thing. | |
| Just like I'm not going to get a 20-year-old virgin who's a fucking 10 out of 10 giga model. | |
| I'm just giving an example. | |
| Just like I'm being realistic. | |
| I know I'm not going to get the fucking giga 10 out of 10 model who's like perfect personality and all the other metrics that I'm like. | |
| But if you do, I'm not going to get the perfect person. | |
| Even if you did, she'd have to like you and you'd have to sit. | |
| You have to rise to her standards too. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Settling isn't necessarily a negative thing. | |
| I believe. | |
| I believe you have your core values. | |
| And then with the other things that follow, there's compromise. | |
| And that's where the quote-unquote settling comes in. | |
| I don't think settling necessarily has to be negative. | |
| Like he said, you're going to settle. | |
| It's just crazy to me. | |
| Y'all won't even do a totally arbitrary, benign thing. | |
| We've said that. | |
| For the perfect. | |
| Many women here. | |
| I know you guys have said, I'm talking to the women who say, I won't do this one thing, right? | |
| But I'm not, like I've said, I'm not a Christian. | |
| That's not in my sure. | |
| So my dream man wouldn't ask me to do that. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Well, he I'm not even. | |
| I'm saying if he did, then he's not my dream man. | |
| I'm saying I can approach this argument from a secular perspective too. | |
| My criticism for her was I had another angle of attack because it wasn't just, wow, you won't do this like really simple thing for the perfect guy. | |
| It's like, okay, you're 31. | |
| The perfect guy hasn't manifested yet, but it could manifest. | |
| All you have to do is bow. | |
| That seems like a really good trade-off. | |
| There's a fuck ton of things I would do for the perfect woman that, trust me, is way crazier than just a fucking bow. | |
| And the guy, the fact that you guys, I don't know if you believe that you're going to just get the perfect guy and just remain completely unchanged and just do whatever the fuck you want to do. | |
| If that's just like female entitlement or whatever. | |
| I just, I'm curious, what should women do? | |
| Like, do women have to do anything? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Okay. | |
| Here's my other confusion with this. | |
| Women will literally let a guy blast on their face on the first date. | |
| What's wrong with you? | |
| But you won't fucking bow. | |
| You'll let a guy come inside you. | |
| You'll let a guy do all kinds of crazy sexual shit with you. | |
| Yeah, but would you compensate someone? | |
| What's that? | |
| Why are you so mad? | |
| What are you so mad at us? | |
| I'm not mad. | |
| I'm just trying to understand. | |
| How do we die? | |
| No, you're not. | |
| It's not mad. | |
| I'm just speaking with, I don't know what the right word is. | |
| Fervor, conviction, fervor, compassion. | |
| Like women. | |
| I like when you get mad. | |
| It's like a tomato. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Appreciate it. | |
| It's like, how about this? | |
| Let's move it off from the bow. | |
| A woman will literally, within the same day she meets a guy, will suck and fuck and do all this crazy shit, let him blast in your fucking hair. | |
| You get a fucking hairdo or something. | |
| Little fucking, whatever. | |
| Skincare. | |
| And then, hey, get back here, Felacity. | |
| Why are you saying it like that? | |
| Get back here. | |
| Chill out. | |
| Chill out. | |
| So how about this? | |
| A woman won't cook. | |
| I would never cook for a man. | |
| But you'll let them fucking come inside you on the first fucking date. | |
| Can I ask you a question? | |
| That's how I transact with women though. | |
| But to me, it's crazy that that's the paradigm. | |
| I don't even like that. | |
| That's crazy that that's the paradigm where it's like, oh, yes, come deep into my tongue. | |
| It's like, no, it's fucking crazy. | |
| These women won't clean. | |
| They won't cook. | |
| But please deposit the fucking cup all over my body. | |
| You're crazy, bro. | |
| That'd be a false comparison because sex is supposed to be transactional and something both parties are enjoying. | |
| If a woman's enjoying that, that's different. | |
| If a woman doesn't enjoy cooking and cleaning, that's totally different. | |
| You're just making false comparisons right now. | |
| Well, I do still think it's totally fair comparison. | |
| Totally fair comparison. | |
| I disagree. | |
| Well, this idea that, oh, no, I won't do this total, like, I won't do this, but you'll do that. | |
| But it's about what it represents. | |
| If you don't want to submit like that, because whatever, you're not a Christian, you don't believe in that, then it's not a problem. | |
| But it's not just to anybody. | |
| The hypothetical is for the perfect man. | |
| No, and if I, but that's like, it's not about you're not doing anything. | |
| Like, you're just making this up. | |
| No, it's, it's a hypothetical question, yes. | |
| But if that's how the man is going to feel honored, and that's the person that you want for you that meets your needs, and that's how he feels honored. | |
| And I'll say this: who here, just show of hands, who here wants a guy to pay for the first date? | |
| Should a guy pay for the first date? | |
| Do you think a guy should pay for the first date? | |
| No. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Well, I don't necessarily think he should. | |
| Obviously, I want him to because I don't want to pay for it. | |
| Oh, well, that's convenient. | |
| Have you been on dates? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Has the guy paid for the dates? | |
| Did you insist, being the feminist that you are, that you should go 50-50? | |
| No. | |
| You didn't insist on going 50-50? | |
| No, female. | |
| Ah, that's very feminist of you. | |
| That's exactly what I talked about. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Feminism not being about equality. | |
| It's about securing privileges for women. | |
| No, you got to be honest, though. | |
| Yeah, because you can't say one thing and then say another. | |
| It just sounds like you're all over the place. | |
| You're all feminist until the check comes. | |
| See, even feminist liberal women like yourself, and I'm not trying to knock you for that. | |
| You still desire, and feminism, you would agree, encompasses more than just like rights and laws and stuff. | |
| It also relates to like traditional gender roles. | |
| And through feminism, women have rejected traditional gender roles with a caveat, but they still want and desire men to adhere to their traditional gender roles. | |
| So women want, you want a guy to pay for first dates. | |
| You want chivalry. | |
| You want all these things. | |
| You want men to take initiative. | |
| These are all masculine, traditional gender role things. | |
| You don't see like feminist women really engaging. | |
| Is that not normal here for a man to pay for the first dates? | |
| But I also think that oftentimes men want to pay on the first date because they have their own gender roles too. | |
| But wouldn't it entail? | |
| I agree with that too. | |
| If I've never asked somebody out, if I asked somebody out, I would pay a little bit of a date. | |
| That's exactly it. | |
| That's exactly what I'm talking about here. | |
| Women say, well, you know what? | |
| My egalitarian position is that whoever asks should pay, conveniently ignores the fact that de facto men are the ones due to traditional gender roles are the ones who are paying for dates. | |
| And women refuse to do any sort of initiative or do anything to build early on in a relationship. | |
| That's not true. | |
| It's absolutely true. | |
| When I met my partner, we went on hikes. | |
| We had multiple encounters that were not sexual, that were purely conversational. | |
| That I pursued. | |
| You're on Pluto right now. | |
| That's not what I'm talking about at all. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Who asked for the first date? | |
| I did. | |
| I approached him. | |
| You approached him. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then you asked for the number and then you planned the date and you paid for the dates? | |
| We went hiking our first date. | |
| Okay, great. | |
| Has that been the norm for you for all the other men you've dated? | |
| That we'd have some sort of hiking or coffee date or something that's. | |
| It's not the venue, just like who was the initiator? | |
| Mostly me in every relationship I've been in. | |
| Hold on. | |
| You smuggled in every relationship you've been in. | |
| How about the men who you've asked out, have you been on dates with, who you didn't end up in a relationship? | |
| I don't do that because I won't go on a date with somebody unless I know I'm interested enough about them. | |
| I've never seen that. | |
| Okay, so you do, you're, there's this, there's because it's awkward. | |
| I think it's awkward to have a two, three hour dinner with somebody that you're not vibing with. | |
| So you're saying every single guy you've dated, you always made the, you made the move. | |
| Yes. | |
| Or you think you made the move. | |
| Yes. | |
| So none of the men you've dated, they asked you out. | |
| No. | |
| And then you texted them. | |
| You set up the date. | |
| Really? | |
| Yes. | |
| I don't know. | |
| This is kind of, look, some women move like this, where I call them snipers, where women are like, they know exactly what they want. | |
| Because I'm fucking sniper. | |
| I will admit, I'm extremely selective. | |
| Okay, great. | |
| You are the outlier. | |
| Most women don't move like that. | |
| Most women are passive when it comes to dating. | |
| They wait for the guy to make the move. | |
| How many dates have you been there? | |
| I have no idea. | |
| 10 first dates. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay, you said you've never asked a guy out, right? | |
| Or you've never, excuse me, you've never paid for the date. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| No, no, you said that. | |
| That's not true. | |
| No, I have paid for dates. | |
| 100% I have. | |
| Okay, no, you said you've never asked a guy out. | |
| No, you did say that. | |
| Explicitly, no. | |
| Okay, you look in his direction for half a millisecond. | |
| No, I mean, like, I've initiated hangouts with guys, but I've never been like, will you go out on a date with me? | |
| Well, I get that women who have boyfriends will be like, hey, babe, you want to hang out? | |
| And you've been together. | |
| I mean, like, asking, like, making, approaching, whether that's online, whether it's in person, walking up to the person, whatever. | |
| Women can do this, but overwhelmingly, they don't. | |
| Women are not initiators like that. | |
| They can. | |
| I am. | |
| Okay, but you'll be like this one time I asked this guy out. | |
| Generally speaking, I want to say 97% of the time women don't initiate. | |
| I can get it. | |
| I'm off. | |
| Women are afraid of rejection. | |
| So yeah, you definitely not going to see a woman going after somebody she wants more than you see a man. | |
| Well, and I think that's a mistake, though, because I think us as women, we are particular, right? | |
| If you ask a guy what he wants, nice girl, she's, you know, pretty, you know, not a freaking psycho. | |
| We do. | |
| We have a long laundry list of things that we expect from a partner, right? | |
| So when you have a conversation with somebody or you, you find somebody who's attractive and you're selective, why would you not go make the first move? | |
| And maybe you have a conversation with them and you realize don't need to, because women have such an abundance of options that will come to you. | |
| It's like, why bought, like, for example, for me. | |
| Yeah, but it's quantity, it's not quality. | |
| Well, sure, you obviously women have to do vetting and like most guys who hit on you, you're probably not even feeling it. | |
| But if you have such an amount, so such a quantity of men that are approaching you, you'll never find the need to have to do it. | |
| Like, for example, famous dudes, women are fucking throwing themselves at these guys. | |
| They don't need to like hit the bars and like, no, they don't need to do that. | |
| Women will come to them. | |
| But that's like the average woman basically gets the like that's right. | |
| I think the higher the higher quality guys, the higher quality guys are, they don't approach women because they're so used to women approaching them. | |
| They don't need to approach women. | |
| Yeah, but that's like 1% of dudes. | |
| Whereas like average women. | |
| I've only dated 1% of dudes because I know what I want. | |
| I have a vision. | |
| And I'm going to say, if this is what I want, then I have to go for it. | |
| You're a sniper. | |
| I get that. | |
| Most women, though, don't move that way. | |
| Most women, the guys come to them. | |
| Point blank, period. | |
| Speaking generally, women aren't asking for first dates. | |
| They're not approaching. | |
| They're not doing any of this stuff. | |
| So again, this idea that, well, men, whoever asked should pay, again, conveniently, look, that would be a fair statement to say if it was about 50-50, if men and women asked each other out at equivalent rates, hey, heck, even if it was 60-40, like men asked women out 60% of the time, women did, I would be like, all right, whatever. | |
| It's pretty much fair, close to fair, whatever. | |
| But it's like 97%. | |
| Oh, I completely agree with you. | |
| It's not proportional. | |
| But if you look at the statistics regarding relationships where the women approach the men, those relationships are more likely to end up in a long-term relationship or marriage. | |
| No dispute there. | |
| So I'm not disagreeing with you. | |
| I'm saying like as a woman to other women, like we have it wrong. | |
| Like we have all these, we are so picky. | |
| We have all these criteria. | |
| We should be approaching men because that is how you go get what you want. | |
| Okay, totally agree. | |
| But it's a little unrelated to the point at hand here. | |
| So you got show of hands. | |
| Who wants men to pay for first dates? | |
| Show of hands. | |
| Raise them high. | |
| Raise them high. | |
| Men should pay for first dates. | |
| You want to or should? | |
| Like as an expectation or you would prefer it. | |
| You want it or you expect it. | |
| They're kind of intertwined, I would say. | |
| How about this? | |
| Should men open car doors? | |
| Oh, for sure. | |
| For sure. | |
| You don't do that here? | |
| I don't care. | |
| You don't care? | |
| Should men open car doors? | |
| Yes. | |
| Open car doors. | |
| Should never touch a door handle around the door. | |
| Should a man open the car door? | |
| I never expected it, but I never had to ask with my prayers. | |
| Does your boyfriend do it? | |
| Yeah, every time. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| Over there? | |
| I call shotgun. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Into the mic, please. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Shotgun. | |
| Okay, should a man open the car door? | |
| Like, should he walk around and open it for you? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Is that going to make you sit in the back? | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Is that a new version? | |
| Okay, you call shotgun in a super masculine way, which men will definitely love. | |
| Should he open the car door for you? | |
| He wants to. | |
| Should he? | |
| No. | |
| So you're fine if he just doesn't? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Bro, talk into the fucking mic. | |
| I just said it. | |
| Pardon me. | |
| No, I would not. | |
| Okay, is there anything men should do? | |
| Like, what about observing the sidewalk rule? | |
| So they walk closer to the street or where the cars are coming. | |
| Yeah, for sure. | |
| They should be. | |
| And walking along the street, is there anything men should do that you can say? | |
| Should men open doors? | |
| Is there anything men should do? | |
| I don't. | |
| I need a more thorough explanation for that. | |
| Can you rephrase the question? | |
| There's a sort of traditional gender expectation or dynamic under chivalry where men will open a woman's car door, let her into the car door, then get in the car. | |
| Men will open doors for women. | |
| And also, if you're walking along a street, the sidewalk rule, men walk closer to where the cars are, conceivably like as a form of protection or whatever from the dangers of the road. | |
| So there's the three examples. | |
| Should men do that? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| Is there anything men should do? | |
| Should men pay for dates? | |
| All I would ask for a man was if he's a gentleman, then everything else falls into place. | |
| If he's okay, so when you say gentleman, though, what is an example of, aside from treating you nice and respectfully, what are some actual examples of actions one would take that would fall in line with gentlemanly treatment? | |
| I think it'd be cute if he did things to surprise me that aren't traditional. | |
| Because if I was involved with a man, I would want us to have all of our inside jokes and ways that we do things and our little quirks and everything. | |
| But I, no, I wouldn't expect him to do all of those things that you just mentioned. | |
| I mean, yeah, it'd be cute if he wants to, but I'm not going to hold it. | |
| I'm not going to love him any less. | |
| Do you want a guy who's a protector? | |
| Who doesn't? | |
| Okay, well, that's a traditional gender role. | |
| I mean, but I also would want to protect him as well. | |
| And not in the way that you might think. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would want to honor him and love him and serve him, submit to him, bring him joy and gladness and make his life a lot better. | |
| You won't bow. | |
| You won't do the bow. | |
| Is there anything? | |
| Will you cook for him? | |
| Of course. | |
| Will you clean? | |
| Of course. | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's my confusion here. | |
| You'll cook, you'll clean, but won't bow. | |
| Will you curtsy? | |
| That sounds fun and cute. | |
| Okay. | |
| Will you take going around the table? | |
| Will you take your who here wants to get married first off? | |
| Do you want to get married one day? | |
| Okay. | |
| Will you take your husband's last name? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I've thought about it. | |
| I haven't come to a conclusion. | |
| I've thought about it a lot because I have a long last name. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes, proudly. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| I will one day when he is not currently in the line of work he's in. | |
| When you get married, though. | |
| So we're not asking. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not asking you about if you will get married. | |
| The question is. | |
| You do want to get married, right? | |
| I'm not saying that I'm not married. | |
| I have a partner because we don't disclose personal things of our relationship publicly because of his job. | |
| Okay. | |
| Hypothetically speaking, whether you're married or you're not married, would it be to your liking to take your hypothetical husband's last name? | |
| Yes, one day. | |
| Oh, boy, I can't believe I have to do these like ridiculous explanations. | |
| Okay, what about you? | |
| I would wear it as a badge of honor. | |
| So you would take your husband's last name. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, final question for you. | |
| You called me Satan. | |
| Was that just like a joke? | |
| I did not call you Satan. | |
| Didn't she call me? | |
| Who was I? | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| That's almost correct. | |
| What did you call me the devil? | |
| I don't know. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I would. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Chat, didn't she call me Satan? | |
| Brian, I said that you're twisting scriptures the way that Satan twists scriptures. | |
| I'm not saying that you are Satan. | |
| Obviously, you're not. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| So I was doing something like Satan. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Okay. | |
| You should dress up as Satan. | |
| In Halloween costume. | |
| Halloween. | |
| You should. | |
| Be like sexy. | |
| I'm not sure how it's twisting scripture, but anyways, I'm not going to debate you on that. | |
| Have you read the Bible cover to cover? | |
| How would that matter? | |
| I've read most of it. | |
| Yes, I have. | |
| What the book? | |
| What should we be doing? | |
| I haven't. | |
| How does that help with your point? | |
| Have you read the Quran? | |
| No. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Bro, these questions are out of nowhere. | |
| Oh, boy. | |
| Okay, guys, $30 TTS. | |
| We're going to do the Roast session. | |
| Then we're going to hopefully get this wrapped up here momentarily. | |
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| I closed the thing. | |
| Letting some of these come through, we have, oh boy. | |
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| Question for the crazy question. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Transgender son or 304 corn star daughter. | |
| You have to pick one and reasoning why. | |
| Bro, we're not going to do reasoning. | |
| That's going to take too long. | |
| It's the roast session. | |
| Which do you pick? | |
| I guess I'd go transgender son. | |
| Can you go both? | |
| I don't both. | |
| You got to pick one. | |
| Got to pick one. | |
| Probably porn star daughter. | |
| I don't care. | |
| Okay. | |
| Hell. | |
| Guys, please just go quick. | |
| Go quick. | |
| Transgender son. | |
| Transgender son. | |
| Porn star daughter. | |
| Porn star daughter. | |
| That's not up to me. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Let's just keep it moving, please. | |
| All right. | |
| Chloe? | |
| Trans son, I guess. | |
| It's a hard one. | |
| It's fucking hard. | |
| A daughter is going to end up being a little slut anyway, whether she's doing it on camera. | |
| So I'd rather have that than you think. | |
| Girls are just inevitably going to be slut. | |
| What did you say? | |
| I think a girl is going to inevitably have sex. | |
| So whether it be on camera or not, then I have that than a transgender slaughter. | |
| I'll go with the daughter, who's a hoe. | |
| Because I can. | |
| Because you love the sound. | |
| Like, once they've transitioned, like you've made perma changes that you can't walk back. | |
| Same. | |
| So in this case, like, yeah, she was a hoe, but she can be. | |
| No, she is a hoe. | |
| She was not. | |
| Oh, perma? | |
| She is. | |
| In my brain, I'm like, maybe they can change. | |
| Like, you can detransition. | |
| You could not be a hoe anymore. | |
| Oh, but just like permanently. | |
| Or you could teach her how to hoe correctly. | |
| Yeah, That's a good one, Days Thor. | |
| After that, all right. | |
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| Yes, he said he would. | |
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| You don't pick and choose them or choose when to follow them. | |
| If the request doesn't violate reason or God's laws, it would fit the paradigm. | |
| Yeah, also to be clear, when it comes to being submissive, if your husband or boyfriend or whatever says, I want you to jump off a bridge, you can rightfully say no. | |
| That's not under the metrics of what would be like an expectation under a woman being submissive or like hurt harm yourself physically, but a bow, yeah, that's yeah, that's fine. | |
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| I will never bow. | |
| My ego is too big. | |
| I have been taught I am more important than unborn babies and can abort them. | |
| Why should I bow for a man? | |
| you're gay oh shit Nick He wouldn't have to do it. | |
| I certainly hope this isn't considered simping. | |
| You gotta pay the simple bastard donated thirty dollars. | |
| What can the patriarchy do for you today? | |
| Getting stabbed on the subway? | |
| We can fix that. | |
| One condition: let go of the fucking reins. | |
| We can take away what you asked for, but we won't until you ask. | |
| Crusader Joe donated $30. | |
| Brian did not twist scripture. | |
| The woman is supposed to submit to the man. | |
| You dumbhoes miss the point because you don't understand self-sacrificing love. | |
| You're only concerned about your own vision. | |
| Yeah, wait, how exactly did I twist scripture? | |
| No, I there was I read it from the Google. | |
| I don't want to get back to you. | |
| Well, I'm asking you. | |
| I'm not gonna argue with you, Brian. | |
| So, did I or did I not twist scripture? | |
| It's a pretty, pretty crazy claim to make. | |
| Yes. | |
| But I don't understand. | |
| I read it pretty much verbatim. | |
| How did I twist it? | |
| It just seems like you don't understand anything that I ever try to say. | |
| Like, every time I say something that is different to you, it's like I've been talking about that. | |
| Well, even if that was true, even if I didn't understand anything you said, how would that be evidence of me twisting scripture? | |
| I don't expect you to understand. | |
| But even if I didn't understand anything that you said, that wouldn't be something that's spiritually discerned. | |
| Spiritually discerned. | |
| Yes, just like Raymond. | |
| Yeah, but how would that be twisting scripture? | |
| All right. | |
| Nice. | |
| Okay. | |
| L underscore necktax donated $29. | |
| C1 Midge Injure. | |
| C2, Gros of Nerd. | |
| C3, Cappin Reformed Cornstar. | |
| C4, looks hungry. | |
| I am hungry. | |
| C5. Ghetto Capin 304 with horse face longer than Monday. | |
| C6, cooked thought. | |
| She is crazy. | |
| Cappin' pick me together. | |
| You know, one thing about the men that comment in these group chats is that they expect to be like, what, yearned by a woman, but y'all talk to women like that? | |
| So I think that y'all are taking the wrong turn. | |
| You know, if you're not finding somebody that you like or that likes you, maybe be likable. | |
| Y'all are nerds with no pussy. | |
| Like, get a light. | |
| Also, I'm not the only one that does holy films. | |
| Plug yourself, girl. | |
| I just don't think you can take it personally. | |
| Like, I'm literally. | |
| Oh, no, I'm not taking it personal, but I am going to talk my shit. | |
| Care 7 won't bad cause she physically can't with that fooper in the way. | |
| Girl, that's not right. | |
| I agree. | |
| Yes, I'm overweight. | |
| White underscore t-shirt underscorus. | |
| It's the roast session. | |
| You guys are going to get roasted. | |
| Thank you for the $30. | |
| Looks like a horse. | |
| I bet she has foam on her navel to 80M. | |
| Show your face. | |
| Desert Judge donated $30. | |
| Hashtag free Nick. | |
| Hashtag free Nick. | |
| Nick, you gonna come on stream or Nick, come on. | |
| Not tonight, I guess. | |
| He doesn't want to. | |
| He doesn't want to. | |
| Chore XD donated $30. | |
| All right. | |
| Simp tax, Finnick. | |
| Isn't Brian simply interpreting scripture in the same way you are? | |
| Did you get this position from a church father, or are you using solar scriptura? | |
| Through you that's not orthodox. | |
| That's for you. | |
| I do lean toward reformed Baptists, but not any one denomination has everything completely correct. | |
| And it's not about knowing it's important to know scripture, but to know the God of the growth of scripture. | |
| This chick is off camera more than she's on camera. | |
| Y'all can show y'all draws because all y'all dare. | |
| I got back problems. | |
| I got back problems. | |
| All y'all do is sitting in front of a computer all day. | |
| Shit, I mean, this show wouldn't go so long if people just answered fucking questions. | |
| Oh, I'm a rose back. | |
| Okay, a few more things we had to go over, some of the pre-show notes, and then that's pretty much it. | |
| Okay, going through your notes that you provided before the show via DM, you said it's 30M is the size and UK sizes, yeah. | |
| 30R in like 28R. | |
| I need to get custom bras. | |
| Yeah, I need to. | |
| That's like, that's crazy. | |
| And they're still growing. | |
| Is there a Z? | |
| Can you have a Z size? | |
| Probably in like five years, yeah. | |
| Well, because I have a condition, so they just continuously grow. | |
| So they're just gonna keep it. | |
| Tell us the KFC man story. | |
| No! | |
| You wrote it. | |
| Give us the short version if you can. | |
| Oh, okay, okay. | |
| Like rapid fire. | |
| Okay, after my relationship with my man for nine years, I thought I would be like a little slot. | |
| So I met up with someone off tender and they came to my house shut in my toilet, my guest bathroom. | |
| And then they went, we were meant to go on a date, but they took me to KFC after I said it was vegan, ate a bargain bucket in front of me, and then we went and had sex. | |
| And straight away, he ate my ass. | |
| No preparation. | |
| So sorry that you still fucked after he shacked me. | |
| All right. | |
| You know what? | |
| One more left. | |
| Look at the badmark. | |
| I was trying to be a hoo, but I'm not. | |
| I can't do it. | |
| It was really horrible. | |
| Honestly, I would prefer if the order was reversed. | |
| Which is chicken breathy. | |
| Tell us the rest of the day. | |
| With chicken breath all the time. | |
| Tell us the rest. | |
| What? | |
| They ate my ass? | |
| I said that. | |
| What about the undergarments? | |
| Ooh. | |
| I don't want to. | |
| It's not bad. | |
| It's funny. | |
| No, he left wearing my punnies. | |
| He stole them. | |
| He said. | |
| I don't want to. | |
| It's so bad, but he did. | |
| He did. | |
| He left wearing them. | |
| And then that's when I decided that I don't do one night stunts. | |
| When did he put it on? | |
| Did he like slip it on after? | |
| Or did he steal it? | |
| Like an overnight. | |
| He didn't shoot his own pants. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| How did he end up in your underwear? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He brought an overnight bag and he was like, maybe I should stay over it. | |
| And I was like, maybe not. | |
| That's honestly not the worst part of the story. | |
| It's not the eating the ass without preparationist, to be honest. | |
| I think it should be. | |
| Because he went band over. | |
| I was like, okay, some doggy. | |
| No. | |
| Man ate my ass. | |
| No prep. | |
| Wow. | |
| That is an interesting story there. | |
| Yeah, it was really sad. | |
| Nama. | |
| Christian. | |
| No ass. | |
| No butt stuff. | |
| Okay, we have Brittany here. | |
| Hmm. | |
| Forgiveness after infidelity. | |
| Did you cheat on somebody? | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Oh, my God, Brittany. | |
| I haven't started. | |
| I'm speaking yet. | |
| I know I haven't started speaking yet. | |
| Just put your mic where it should be, please. | |
| I mean, once I start speaking, it's going to be right here in front of my face. | |
| I love it. | |
| You said you dated. | |
| So did you cheat on somebody? | |
| No, I didn't do the cheating. | |
| Oh, they cheated on you, but you forgave them. | |
| And it's, yeah, that was. | |
| Love it. | |
| Sorry, I'm going to blast through these super quick just for you. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| You said you dated. | |
| Now you're. | |
| No, I'm just refreshing myself. | |
| Don't mind me. | |
| Okay. | |
| Dating someone in the limelight. | |
| So you dated a celebrity or something? | |
| A musician, yeah. | |
| Definitely an. | |
| No. | |
| It was definitely an interesting experience. | |
| Can you say who? | |
| Nope. | |
| Can you say what genre of music? | |
| Rapper? | |
| No. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Yes. | |
| Not a rapper. | |
| No. | |
| Oh. | |
| No, not a rapper. | |
| More so, yes. | |
| And it was definitely. | |
| Did you fuck Weird Al Yankovic? | |
| You seem like you would be DTF for Weird Al. | |
| Just add something crazy to my resume to be like, I did this. | |
| I took it back to the late 90s and early 2000s. | |
| Is it true, though? | |
| Was it Weird Al? | |
| Somebody DM'd me. | |
| No, I'm just kidding. | |
| That is hilarious. | |
| And it was, like I said, it was just definitely a learning experience. | |
| And yeah, that's it. | |
| All right. | |
| I'm going to leave it there. | |
| We won't be able to hit all your notes, but I gave options. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's see. | |
| Can you wait? | |
| Like I said, I gave you all options. | |
| Does dating a creative genius come with emotional highs and lows that not everyone can handle? | |
| Oh, 1,000. | |
| He was a creative genius. | |
| Oh, the most musically talented human being I have. | |
| He was famous that I've ever met in my entire life. | |
| Pardon? | |
| Band or solo act? | |
| Solo. | |
| Dave Matthews. | |
| I'm not going to say that. | |
| Okay. | |
| But it definitely came with learning that these people definitely have a neurodivergent personality. | |
| Oh, 1,000%. | |
| I never guessed. | |
| And it started putting me like in this very weird place of not walking on eggshells, but I had to teach myself to be prepared for the great moment and then the extreme drops. | |
| Extreme drops. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Big time. | |
| You said that, hold on. | |
| One sec. | |
| You said despite your line of work or past work, you still have traditional values. | |
| I feel like step one, though, to being traditional is like not being a sex worker, you know? | |
| Well, no, that's a kind of a big one, I feel. | |
| No, I agree 100%. | |
| While I was in a relationship, that was, it was not going on. | |
| And after the breakup, then I decided to fully go back to work full-time. | |
| I was like, okay, Playboy, here I come. | |
| But as far as everything else, when it comes to raising a family, being submissive to my husband, traditional gender roles is what we talked about earlier. | |
| Then, you know, before you even commit to anybody, covering what, you know, picking at least three core values and making sure that your values align. | |
| So when it comes to those, absolutely, I believe that, you know, those are first in line. | |
| But if I'm with somebody, I think it's really no judgment to anybody, but anybody who's in that line of work and they have a husband or boyfriend who's okay with them doing that. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Just, I feel like a woman could say that she cooks and she cleans and she's submissive, but I feel like there's a maybe, I don't know if bottleneck is the right way. | |
| I feel like if you're a sex worker, it's like, yeah, but then you're not traditional. | |
| No, and that makes 100% sense, you know, and I respect everyone's point of view. | |
| Moving to you, we hit some of your notes. | |
| We talked about gender roles excessively, so we did that. | |
| You do say you're not a feminist, but you're not 100% traditional either. | |
| Really quick, what are the ways in which you don't fall under traditional? | |
| Well, I mean, I work. | |
| I have a full-time career. | |
| I make more money than that. | |
| What about the dynamics in a relationship? | |
| Are you not traditional in certain ways there, aside from just working? | |
| I mean, like, I contribute. | |
| I don't expect him to pay for my personal expenses. | |
| Okay, so you're kind of 50, 50 financially? | |
| Yeah, I mean, I would say like our house, he owned that before we met. | |
| So that kind of stuff is still his domain. | |
| The only other thing for you that we didn't hit on was maybe we did just a teeny bit different opinions about plastic surgery. | |
| I kind of gave my position. | |
| Yeah, I was just saying I think a lot of times it's like women doing it for themselves rather than for the male gaze. | |
| And I also, I think it's completely understandable that you have your own personal aesthetic preferences. | |
| I disagree with the notion, though, that women that pursue plastic surgery are fake because I think a lot of times they're actually being more real in a world where the culture is delusional. | |
| And right, I'm a 10, you're a 10, he, she, it is a 10. | |
| I think a lot of times when people pursue plastic surgery, it's because they're looking in the mirror and saying, I am not at my peak physical attraction, and I could try to change the entire narrative of, you know, society thinks this and that, or I can admit that I'm just not as attractive as some other people are and I can do something to change that. | |
| So I think sometimes the rationale is not necessarily that of being fake. | |
| I think it's being incredibly honest and being incredibly real with yourself, which I think has become a lost concept in today's culture. | |
| But I guess my counter to that would be if you just stopped. | |
| So you say you made this realization that there's this thing about me that I don't like, whether it's, you know, you have a small upper lip or I'm not speaking about you specifically, just in general. | |
| My breasts aren't the right, the size that I'd like them to be. | |
| They're too small. | |
| My face, I need to, the Botox, whatever. | |
| I don't know if it's wrinkles or why women do that, but, or I want my face to be shaped in this certain way. | |
| Why can't it, in terms of it being real, that first step that you mentioned of acknowledging that, that's the real part. | |
| But then when you go into, I'm going to use artificial means to change my physical appearance, then we are getting into, I mean, it's in the term of the surgery, plastic surgery. | |
| It's plastic. | |
| It's not real. | |
| It's not genuine. | |
| Well, I think most people that have plastic surgery acknowledge that. | |
| They are recognizing that, oh, this is not my, you know, I didn't do anything to deserve this or earn this or am blessed with this. | |
| I have a problem that I don't like and I'm going to pay to fix it. | |
| And I mean, that's just how the world works. | |
| You have a problem, you pay to fix it, or you can complain and cry about it your whole life. | |
| I got a gap at the end of the day. | |
| I mean, or you can accept, you don't necessarily need to fix the thing. | |
| And I would dispute if certain things even need fixing. | |
| I don't think women with small breasts are in need of fixing. | |
| Well, like, there's nothing wrong. | |
| There's nothing wrong with women who have small breasts. | |
| They're not defective. | |
| They're not any of these things. | |
| From my perspective, there's nothing to be fixed. | |
| Well, I mean, this is coming from somebody I have had work done. | |
| I couldn't wear certain clothes because my frame was so small in certain areas. | |
| And then it was so big. | |
| I wouldn't have been able to wear this dress. | |
| I wouldn't have been able to wear certain blouses. | |
| I couldn't wear anything strapless because it was just not fit me, right? | |
| I was completely disproportional. | |
| Yeah, I get that. | |
| I mean, I don't know if not being able to wear certain articles of clothing from my perspective would ever be grounds to like undergo surgery. | |
| I'd just be like, I mean, there's alterations. | |
| You can see that. | |
| But what I'm saying is if somebody is personally unhappy with something, they can recognize this doesn't look good, or I don't like the way that this looks. | |
| And I think a lot of times as women, yes, it is being insecure and it's internalized that you internalize those insecurities. | |
| Why live life being insecure about something? | |
| And even if you're the only person that notices it, because I've never, I never received that complaint from people or was bullied for it. | |
| It was just something I was so self-conscious about. | |
| And then I fixed it and then I never thought about it again. | |
| And I would like to instill in women instead of this, let's default to plastic surgery, I would prefer to instill in the woman, perhaps it's the case that you are insecure about something with your body. | |
| And look, certain things, you know, can't, obviously breast size, you can't really do anything about that. | |
| But, you know, if it's about your weight or your butt, you can do some squats for that. | |
| Oh, for sure. | |
| But I would like to, rather than jump to let's go under anesthesia, which always carries a risk of death or, you know, some sort of injury, it's very expensive. | |
| Perhaps you'll be left with scars. | |
| Perhaps you get botched. | |
| Or perhaps there's complications with the surgery. | |
| I would say, why don't we as a society like tackle this idea of these sort of crazy beauty standards? | |
| And why don't we why don't we give women a constitution of mind where they're like, okay, my breasts, I don't have big breasts, but that's okay. | |
| And I'm not going to resort to surgery to fix something that doesn't need to be, there's nothing wrong there. | |
| And I would like women to have a force of will where they're like, I'm okay with how this is. | |
| Now, I'm not saying you should be a slob and just be obese or something. | |
| You should obviously take care of your health, take care of your body. | |
| But when it comes to things that only through surgical intervention you can fix, I would always lean towards how can we improve women's strength of mind and constitution away from resorting to plastic surgery. | |
| I completely agree with you. | |
| I wish societally we did that. | |
| But as someone who grew up as the smart girl, as the nerdy girl, that was not socially rewarded. | |
| Sure, in the context of my parents and my teachers, it was. | |
| But amongst my peers, that is not something that you get rewarded for, you know, well into your adolescence. | |
| So looks matter too. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Looks matter. | |
| And you are, you're treated completely different. | |
| And how you feel, maybe it's correlation, not causation, but the confidence that you have going through society. | |
| I mean, it sounds very extreme and very dramatic, but it did completely change my confidence and my frame of mind and how I navigated different business situations because I just felt great about myself. | |
| And the things that are very difficult for people to obtain, right? | |
| It's hard for people to study. | |
| It's hard for people. | |
| Those were things that came easy to me. | |
| So it was always upsetting. | |
| Like, why couldn't I just look pretty? | |
| Why couldn't I be like these other girls? | |
| What have you had done? | |
| I have had implants. | |
| I have lip filler. | |
| That's not permanent. | |
| I have had my nose and lip filler, nose, Botox in the face. | |
| Yeah, there's Botox in my eyes, my side of my eyes. | |
| I see. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't see nothing wrong with that shit. | |
| Because I know when I get old, I'm going to want Botox too. | |
| I mean, women are vain. | |
| Like, we're going to want to stay pretty. | |
| I don't know if I'm a revolutionary. | |
| And if I can do that to stay pretty for as long as possible, hey. | |
| But I don't know if I'm a revolutionary here, but I would like to see a societal paradigm where women, there wasn't these insane beauty standards on men or women. | |
| Look, you can look good. | |
| You can want to achieve an aspirational body type. | |
| Perhaps this could best be achieved through natural means. | |
| And I do, I work out. | |
| I coach him. | |
| Of course. | |
| But when it comes to plastic surgery specifically, my view is these procedures are not medically indicated. | |
| They can often come with risks and downsides and expenses. | |
| My nose did have medical reasons as well. | |
| Sure, people have deviated septums. | |
| I understand that. | |
| But I'm talking like the degree of invasiveness. | |
| So like as you start going down the line, breast implants, that's more invasive. | |
| BBL, that's invasive. | |
| Liposuction, very invasive. | |
| All these things are invasive and dangerous procedures. | |
| Well, BBL, people die from BBLs and stuff. | |
| I think that's the most dangerous. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It is very dangerous. | |
| I guess I would just want a different societal paradigm where it's like, this is not what people are resorting to. | |
| Like for cases of actual deformity for reasons, the originating reason for plastic surgery, where people had like severe deformities, either from war wounds, you know, somebody loses half their face, crazy burns. | |
| But just purely cosmetic reasons, you want to put like silicone in your chest. | |
| There's no medical indication for this absent, like a woman who loses a breast due to breast cancer or something, or I don't know, she somehow a titty gets chopped off. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe you've had a couple close calls. | |
| These women, these women are obviously getting attention from men. | |
| So if the men were more strict on not getting it done, I'm pretty sure women wouldn't do it as much. | |
| Well, I have criticisms for the men who have this preference. | |
| I'm not criticizing the men, though. | |
| I'm just saying that they obviously like it. | |
| So if the men like it and the women do it, I don't see nothing wrong with it. | |
| I think two things. | |
| If a guy has a preference towards women who have plastic surgery, I think from a woman's perspective, that's a red flag, the red flag you should look out for. | |
| But if you're dating a guy and he's trying to get, he wants you to get plastic surgery, that's a red flag too. | |
| You should dump the dude instantly if he's like trying to, even if he's willing to pay for the shit. | |
| If he's like, babe, I want you to get fake titties. | |
| That's a red flag. | |
| Dump that fucking guy. | |
| Agreed. | |
| If you want me to get fake titties, I'm going to get fake titties. | |
| Your titties are great. | |
| I'm just a natural follower. | |
| Don't even trip. | |
| What'd you say? | |
| Huh? | |
| You talked about it. | |
| I said you're already good. | |
| So why would you get fake titties? | |
| You don't need them. | |
| Oh, thank you. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| They're great. | |
| Yeah, I would have never not to be staring at you. | |
| I mean, I would have never pursued plastic surgery if I had naturally had that. | |
| But I don't think that women should be ashamed if they want it or not. | |
| That's my opinion. | |
| Because if you want to change something about yourself, you can change something. | |
| We need to stand strong. | |
| And we need, you know, men, we're protectors, right? | |
| We're protectors. | |
| But that's not just protecting women from attacks as it relates to the physical reality, the physical world. | |
| We need to protect women as it relates to attacks on their spirit and their mind, okay? | |
| I think what isn't fucking the truth. | |
| I think what isn't. | |
| Okay, no, I'm telling the truth. | |
| We need to, because there's, look, if you, if you don't think that there's, there's something as it relates to society that is trying to attack people, attack their minds, you are gravely mistaken. | |
| There are corporations that want you insecure so that they can reap exactly so they can continue to reap money out of your pockets. | |
| These corporations want you insecure, so you're a good, obedient consumer and buyer. | |
| And there's an attack on your mind and you're not even aware. | |
| You are so hopelessly dependent on the system. | |
| So hopelessly inert to your paint and to your makeup and to your plastic surgery. | |
| They want you insecure. | |
| They want you comparing yourself to these women who are photoshopped and that's not how they actually look with the makeup on in reality. | |
| They want you spending your money so they can get rich. | |
| Why you shouldn't be able to do that? | |
| That's the thing is, I completely agree with you. | |
| It's kind of like, I know I shouldn't eat sugar. | |
| I love dessert. | |
| Like, I willingly do it all the time because I like it. | |
| You can tell me all day long, like, how bad it is for me. | |
| It's going to decay my teeth. | |
| I'm going to like, and I'm like, yeah, Brian, I completely hear what you're saying. | |
| I agree. | |
| You're 100% correct. | |
| But I really like it. | |
| It really makes me happy. | |
| And I'm going to continue doing it because that's just what I'm doing. | |
| Do what you're going to do. | |
| Do what you're doing. | |
| But I don't disagree with anything that you said. | |
| I just don't think it's like an all-size or one-size-fits-all approach. | |
| It's to like, why are these women getting plastic surgery? | |
| A lot of them are doing it for themselves. | |
| When them women be getting them big old bubble titties, instead of getting the size that they actually need. | |
| I mean, like, your titties look good. | |
| Like, you didn't get them all big and stuff. | |
| So, I want to make sure that they're not. | |
| No, I don't need any good plastic surgery in this. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| My question is, do you think that there's anything out there in society, whether it comes from government or corporations, that is aimed at attacking the spirit of the person, whether you're a man or a woman? | |
| Do you think that there are monsters abound? | |
| Do you think that there are, whether intentionally or unintentionally, that we are not just under attack, perhaps physically, but also in a spiritual conflict or a mental conflict, a conflict of the mind? | |
| 100%. | |
| 100%. | |
| I know this is up here. | |
| I know this is up here. | |
| Only if you're not aware of it, because I know sometimes I'm a consumer and I'm going to be a consumer because I know what I like. | |
| And if everybody else like it, knowing that I like it too, I don't know. | |
| My point is, we are not called simply to protect women from immediate physical threats of harm from the outside world. | |
| But I also think we ought to, and it doesn't just apply to women. | |
| We need to protect people from the attacks on our minds and our spirits. | |
| Yeah, like you. | |
| I completely agree with you, but I just don't think, I think we have a laundry list of items that are culturally problematic in our society before we get to the part of consumerism as pertaining to beauty standards. | |
| I think we have a culture of mediocracy. | |
| Nobody wants to work. | |
| Nobody wants to work hard. | |
| Nobody wants to achieve things. | |
| We have completely lost the plot when it comes to family values. | |
| We have just a laundry list of things that are contributing to the declining society, I think, that needs to be prioritized more than, you know, people making personal choices about their own aesthetics. | |
| Maggie? | |
| Who's Maggie? | |
| No. | |
| Who's Maggie? | |
| Who's Maggie? | |
| It's me. | |
| No, I'm just chivalry. | |
| Wait, Maggie? | |
| Oh, no, no, no. | |
| Okay, she was a no-show. | |
| My bad. | |
| Sarah? | |
| It's me. | |
| You said the OF women would be offended if you were transparent and honest about how you view modern dating feminism, masculinity. | |
| Okay, hold on. | |
| We're going to. | |
| You said men are microwaves, women are crock pots. | |
| I'm not sure what that means. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| So when it comes to erotica, men. | |
| But you're a virgin. | |
| Yes, I know. | |
| Allegedly. | |
| Allegedly. | |
| Men are like microwaves. | |
| They're pleased very easily and quickly. | |
| And women are like crock pots because you have to nurture them and earn their trust. | |
| And it's not that much. | |
| I don't think that's true. | |
| You can't do that. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Some women just come instantly. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| What? | |
| That's crazy. | |
| So men come really fast. | |
| If you have a wand. | |
| Look, I'm not saying all women, but y'all have like multiple orgasms and shit, and you can just come up with a music. | |
| You can have multiple orgasms in one sentence. | |
| I just, the scene I just dumb. | |
| The guy called sex studies. | |
| Okay. | |
| You can have multiple orgasms. | |
| Most men cannot have multiple orgasms. | |
| There's a refractory period. | |
| Anyways, premature ejaculation is a thing. | |
| Jenny, you went on a date with a guy as a first date, and he asked you to sleep with him in the disabled toilets. | |
| And when you said no, he made you pay for the full date. | |
| He just got up and left. | |
| Guys, final call on the roasts because after this, we are wrapping. | |
| Final call on the roast, get him in. | |
| Final call, final call. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then you said how men now don't want to pay for dates anymore and want to either split or you pay for it. | |
| Is that what I said? | |
| Yeah, you were. | |
| I don't remember what I said, to be honest. | |
| Okay, well, we'll just for the date, but I've never been one for yeah, you don't have you don't have you've never asked guy on a on a date? | |
| Uh, not really, no, but I don't really date that much, to be fair. | |
| I don't know, I'm just sit at home with my cats. | |
| Yeah, she's happy, she hangs out at home. | |
| I have five cats. | |
| Holy shit, that's so nice. | |
| That's a lot of cats. | |
| They really are. | |
| Thank you. | |
| I really happy with that. | |
| That's fine. | |
| All right, we're gonna let the chats come through, then hopefully, this should be wrapped here within the middle. | |
| So, are you gonna do the gun thing or no? | |
| Gun thing? | |
| Nope. | |
| Why? | |
| What's the issue, bro? | |
| White underscore t-shirts underscore no unscrewed. | |
| Oh, is it? | |
| Oh, I don't usually read these before I let them come through. | |
| Masturbation is good. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Chore XD donated $30. | |
| Chair 3, wouldn't the consequence of your expectation be that you date and marry a man who reviles your past? | |
| That seems like a hard sell. | |
| You might have to adjust your expectations a bit. | |
| No? | |
| Bless his heart. | |
| Dirk Diggler donated $29. | |
| Hi from Germany. | |
| Love watching the show. | |
| Keep up with saving us from the evil women out there. | |
| Chloe seems to be fine. | |
| Not a bad panel today. | |
| DG Lambo donated $30. | |
| Mr. Atlas, I'd be losing my SH. | |
| The patience, endurance. | |
| Brian's strength under stress is only rivaled by those three chairs. | |
| You know which ones. | |
| Cut meals in half and eat later. | |
| W. Roma W. Oxner. | |
| Thank you, man. | |
| Mr. Basteman donated $29. | |
| C1 bottle ginger. | |
| C2 plastic milk junks. | |
| C3 man's gender. | |
| C4 McDonald's. | |
| C5 Chirp. | |
| C6 Gold Digger Lizard. | |
| C 7 Holy Cow. | |
| C 8 Fematism Speaks.org. | |
| C9 Forklift Rascal. | |
| C10 Bankrupt Popsicle Budget. | |
| Wait, Forklift Rascal? | |
| C10 Bankrupt Pub? | |
| Am I going to be aware of that? | |
| I told you I'd make more money than anyone who thinks I'm such a feminist. | |
| Like anybody that's like, I have literally millions of people that watch me around the world, and I don't think one person would look at me and be like, Chloe. | |
| That's a fair. | |
| I'm just confused as to why your community thinks that. | |
| I don't get it. | |
| Maybe it's just a few people. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But you're not a feminist, right? | |
| You're not a feminist, right? | |
| I mean, I'm a basic level. | |
| Like, I don't think we should walk around beating women. | |
| I think that makes it like a baseline feminist, but I'm literally the world's biggest men's rights advocate in the whole world. | |
| I literally started it. | |
| So why are you calling me a feminist? | |
| It's so weird. | |
| But do you think even under a patriarchal structure that even under patriarchy, they're like, yes, it's okay to beat women? | |
| I don't know if I don't think that's the case. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, that sounds like I just, I just hope that means in some countries, like, yes, we see that. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| So I was from Romania, so feminism is like very much needed over there, like really bad. | |
| I'm not a Western feminist. | |
| If anything, I would be more in line with feminism in other parts of the world where it hasn't really touched yet. | |
| But even in the patriarchal society, I mean, even in a patriarchal society that's strictly patriarchal, I wouldn't say that baked into that is always an acceptance of wife beating. | |
| I don't know if I would. | |
| That's not what I'm saying. | |
| I'm saying I have a basic level. | |
| Like, I just, yeah, I don't know. | |
| I just, I just have a basic care for women. | |
| I mean, in Afghanistan, yes, that is like part of what they allow. | |
| Well, I'd say that's less to do with patriarchy and more to do. | |
| Well, let's not. | |
| Like, where I'm from, women are actually still oppressed. | |
| Like, in Europe and Romania and shit, like, Romania is still struggling and rolling out in there. | |
| Communism and a bunch of shit. | |
| So, I just, I've just, I don't know. | |
| I've never heard anybody describe me as that. | |
| I mean, obviously, in Afghanistan, there's women have very few rights. | |
| Yeah, like my fiancé's from Iraq. | |
| Is it actually the case that like wife beating? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I genuinely don't know. | |
| Is wife beating? | |
| Yeah, under Sharia law, yeah. | |
| There's like, if you look at like a lot of Muslim countries, yeah, there are women getting like stoned. | |
| And I mean, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Lots of victim blaming for women in Europe. | |
| And I mean, it's bad. | |
| I think we can admit that there are places in the world where women don't have, like, Western women are very privileged. | |
| Well, I don't know if this is just like a trope or something. | |
| I just did a Google search. | |
| It says, even Sharia law, which is derived from the Quran, teachings of Muhammad, it's widely interpreted as prohibiting a husband from beating his wife. | |
| The notion that Islam permits domestic violence is a misconception rejected by many Islamic scholars who emphasize compassion and kind treatment in marriage. | |
| Yes, but that's the wide interpretation of Sharia law. | |
| The Taliban interprets the most important. | |
| They're not Muslims. | |
| They're not Muslims. | |
| Not to make it dark, but like my sister was like, she was like, not just essayed, but like raped. | |
| And from what I understand, the primary reason the guy got jail time was because he took her virginity, which was like a disservice to her future husband. | |
| So I just, you just can't convince me that like women's rights are, that they're privileged. | |
| In other places of the world, they're not. | |
| So I'm a feminist in that aspect. | |
| Am I like a Western feminist? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I agree with you. | |
| We got our cake and we ate it too. | |
| Well, of course, in a lot of these other countries, yeah, there definitely are not robust women's rights. | |
| Absolutely agree. | |
| Not at all. | |
| Okay, I'm pretty sure that's it. | |
| Any final thoughts from anybody before I wrap up? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Thank you for having us. | |
| Yeah, holla me everywhere at Madam Houston. | |
| Oh, my Madam Texas. | |
| Hobby Bay. | |
| GG to the panel. | |
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| And 07s. | |
| Are we forgetting anything or are we good? | |
| I think we're good. | |
| Okay. | |
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