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She Dated DRAKE?! Gold Digger?! $5,000,000/Year To Date Her?! Prison Dating?! | Dating Talk #259

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Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education.
Go ahead.
I'm Alex.
I'm 19, and I'm from Riverside, California.
So, like, an hour out of LA.
And I'm a freelance photographer.
And, like, right now, I'm not doing anything for school.
So.
You graduated high school?
No, I actually haven't yet.
I'm still working on that.
Dropped out?
Yeah, so like that's it's a really long story.
I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah, well, I think I looked at your Instagram a bit.
You were in the troubled teen industry.
That's actually why I'm not done.
Because it like.
Are you trying to get your GED?
Yeah, I'm getting my high set, which is like similar to the GED.
So I'm like halfway done with it.
What's it called?
It's a high set.
So it's like a California kind of like version of that.
Okay.
And you say you do photography for your occupation?
Yes.
And you're from California?
Yes, sir.
Originally.
Okay.
What is the troubled teen industry?
Give us like a brief plot synopsis.
So it's like a system of like programs.
They're not like really owned by the same people, but at some point they kind of were, which was like WASP.
But basically, it's like your parent is like having a hard time with you because you're like depressed and you know you're suicidal and you're having a hard time in school.
And so they're like, oh, my kid really needs help.
Like da da da, what do I do?
And then like Google like throw all these like different places at you.
And that's kind of like how it happened.
So my parents decide to send me there.
But it's basically like what they call like a residential treatment center.
But generally like it'll be in Utah and they're like really abusive like normally.
Like they don't actually do anything that they're supposed to do and they'll just kind of like keep you in there and spend all your parents' money.
So it's like a prison kind of.
Yeah.
I mean like there are girls who have been to Juvie that like go there and they're like take me back like please like it was better in Juvie.
Have you been to Juvie?
No, thank God.
Oh okay.
Yeah.
Because on your Instagram there's like what looks like a mug shot.
So that's my picture from the program.
Oh yeah.
Like that's from my first day there.
You're troubled.
It's a camp.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's right.
Like I don't even know what to call it.
They take a mug shot.
But no, literally my therapist, when she sent it to me, she was like, huh, that looks like a mug shot.
I was like, yeah, thanks.
Oh, okay.
And you're wearing like orange.
It looks like a jumpstart.
They make you wear orange when you're on phase one.
You like don't have, yeah, you don't have any of your clothes and you have all these phases.
I'm telling you, it's such a long story.
Well, what, I guess what got you sent to.
Have you been to multiple of these camps, first off?
So I went to that one, but like I've been in like mental hospitals and like other like programs before, but I never like left the state for it until then.
So like it was like a year of me just being like in and out of the like psych ward like out in LA and stuff.
And then I went to like an IOP and like some other like short-term programs.
What's IOP?
Intensive outpatient.
So it's like you spend like.
What came first, the psych ward or the troubled teen camp?
It was IOP, then it was the psych ward like a couple times.
And then the camp.
And then yeah, like one place, and then I was good for like a couple months.
And then they just like randomly decided to send me.
How old were you when you first went to the psych ward?
The first time I went to the like actual like psych ward, I was I had just turned 15.
15.
Okay.
And but did your troubles start sooner than 15?
Yeah, I was like 12.
When what started?
I don't know.
I got like really depressed out of nowhere.
Okay.
Were you like causing trouble in school or were you doing drugs or no?
I was just like really sad.
Like literally like that's kind of why it like sucks is I was just like a sad kid.
I don't know.
I didn't cause problems until I was like...
Yeah.
Was there a reason for like was it clinical depression?
Were there.
I mean like now I've been like diagnosed and so is my brother.
So we have autism that like was just something that got ignored.
And funny thing like when I got diagnosed my family was like yeah we Ben knew so why didn't you do anything like hello?
Do you have any other diagnoses?
Yeah, I'm like off paper diagnosed with borderline because we don't want to yeah, we don't want to put that on paper.
That's something like kind of whatever.
But and then CPTSD.
So from the camps, it's just from like a lifetime of okay, how many times have you been in the psych ward?
Four times, and how many different camps did you go to?
I went to like one short term and one long term and was there any uh like in school, any behavioral issues?
Um no, like yeah, like I never got like suspended or like in trouble like with anything.
Were you disruptive in classes or I talked like that.
You talked clearly, like yeah, I just talk a lot, and any like drug use.
That was like after I started going to the like psych ward and so I started smoking weed when I was like 12 13, which was like pretty young.
So here's the thing where I live, like where I grew up, which is like Coachella Valley, Palm Springs area.
It's like very, very normal out there and like anyone who grows up out there for whatever reason, like everyone I knew, started smoking at like 11.
So I was like late to the party when I started doing late bloomer in the silly possible.
Is that junior high or is that still elementary school?
It's like the beginning of middle school?
Yeah, like seventh grade.
It's obnoxious, it's like it's really bad because, like parent, like parents will let their kids do it and stuff.
Good times, okay.
Um, any other diagnoses?
You said cpt, CPTSD yeah, and then BPD and autism.
Yeah, are you Asperger's or it's just like like you play the flute or something really wrong.
You know what?
I wish that it like benefited me more.
I just remember like I don't.
Yeah, I don't know.
I wish it benefited me more.
I was gonna say I remember like random facts, but they're completely useless.
I feel like it more just like impacts my ability to like learn and um, when's the last time you've been either to one of these camps or psych ward?
Um, like it the when I graduated, so Like a year ago.
My program when I graduated my program.
So it's been since 2023 of December.
So like two years.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's got a minute.
All right.
Good times.
Fun stuff, right?
What about you?
Hi, my name is Chloe.
I'm 25 years old from San Jose.
I'm working as a sales.
Sales?
Yeah.
Okay.
What kind of sales do you do?
I sell Mercedes.
Mercedes.
And you work for a dealership?
It's one.
How close is my name?
It's the biggest dealership in Bay Area.
Mercedes dealership.
Gotcha.
Okay.
Biggest dealership.
Nice.
And you get paid commission or how does that work?
Yeah, solely based on commission.
I don't know if it's okay to say the pay plan, but yeah.
Gotcha.
So like if you sell, I don't know.
Tell me a popular Mercedes car.
Well, for me, average about over 20 cars a month, but I'm at the top, like the most top in sales.
Okay.
How much, what, so if you sell one car, what do you make?
Like a thousand?
It very varies.
Like depends on the growth on the car.
Some car are losers, we call we lose money, and some car will make huge growth in it, and depends on the growth in the car.
Okay, so and you said you're from San Francisco where you currently live?
And you grew up there?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm currently living in San Jose.
Bay Area?
Bay area.
Okay.
And I detect an accent.
Were you born?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm Chinese from mainland.
Mainland China.
Okay.
Gotcha.
And any education?
Yeah, I have a bachelor's degree of Korean language.
Korean language.
Okay.
From where?
From China.
From China?
Okay.
Did you go to school here?
Not like degree.
I didn't get a degree here, but I did participate some program here.
Okay.
You didn't do any university here in the U.S.?
Not at all.
When did you move to the U.S.?
Actually, two and a half years ago.
Two and a half years ago.
Okay.
And you lived in South Korea for about one year.
Are you fluent in Korean?
I was, I'd say.
You were?
Not anymore.
So you speak Mandarin and you speak English?
Any other languages?
Just that.
Three of them.
And Korean.
But you're not super fluent.
Well, I understand, though.
You understand it.
Okay.
Gotcha.
All right, cool.
Guys, if you're in the Northern California Mercedes, she's your girl.
Have you sold any other kind of cars, exotic cars, anything like that?
Well, for new cars, we only have Mercedes, but we do have different brands of used cars, like all the brands, used cars.
Okay, very cool.
Very cool.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Kylie.
I'm originally from West Village, New York, but I moved to San Francisco about maybe 10 years old.
Right now, I don't have a job.
Oh, I'm also 18.
Right now, I'm also taking a gap beer.
So, yeah.
Okay.
How long have you been in Santa Barbara?
Like two weeks.
I'm here with a friend from now.
Yeah.
Okay.
You're not going to the college or anything?
No, I just kind of want to travel around for a bit.
And since I've always been in the NorCal area, I just wanted to try SoCal for a bit.
Gotcha.
And you said you're from New York?
Yeah, West Village, New York.
Okay.
That's Manhattan, right?
Yeah.
It's like really close to Soho, if you know where that is.
No idea.
But it's Manhattan, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
And you came with a friend?
Yeah, she's actually saying right down the street.
And it was perfect timing because I was still living in San Francisco.
And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm moving to Santa Barbara, so why not?
Yeah.
All right, cool.
What about you?
Hi, my name is Queen D.
I just turned 24 two weeks ago and I'm from Orange County, California.
Right now I don't have a job, but I was a medical assistant and I am a full-time, full-time student for business.
Gotcha.
And you also do what?
Or used to do what?
I used to do OF.
Okay.
But because of just personal reasons, I don't want to do it anymore.
And were you doing boy-girl content on there?
What were you doing?
No, it was just like lingerie.
No, like full body, nothing like that.
Got it.
Okay.
And so your name is what?
Queen D. Queen D.
Yes.
Queen Space D?
No, Queen D's together.
Q U E E N D Y. Queen D.
Yeah.
That's your government name.
Yes, my government name.
Government name.
Yes.
Queen D.
Yes.
Okay.
Queen, Queen D Y.
Yeah, Queen D Y. Gotcha.
Because, yeah, I wasn't sure.
So I just wanted to specify.
You also said that you're an in your notes, you're an unemployed sugar baby.
What is that?
So you're nothing then?
You used to be a sugar baby, I guess?
I mean, I guess here and there, like, I would.
Okay.
Like, I guess date people and then, you know, they would offer me things or whatever.
I wouldn't consider it sugar baby if they're like offering me.
I'm not asking.
But right now I'm more like focusing on myself.
So you don't currently have a sugar daddy?
No, no, no, no.
But you have.
I have.
Yes.
Sort of.
Sort of.
Yeah.
All right.
What about you?
I'm a Frada.
I'm 18 years old and I'm currently in school as a biology major.
Yeah, I'm from Houston.
Yeah.
And bio majors.
Do you want to be a doctor?
Yeah, I want to go to school.
I want to go to med school to be an anesthesiologist.
Okay, they make good money.
Yeah.
You got to be careful, though.
You got to be, you know, they can kill people.
Yeah, I know.
OD them on the phone.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
Be careful.
Not after a night of raving, okay?
oh that's what you do you know Do you rave?
Have you?
I haven't been.
Oh.
No.
All right.
And you said you're from Texas.
Yeah.
And you go to UCSB.
Is that correct?
I actually transferred, so I go to the CC now.
Oh, you.
Wait, hold on.
You were going to UCSB?
Yeah.
And now I'm going to the CC.
Why is that?
So recently, no, no.
Okay.
So recently my parents completely stopped financially supporting me.
So now I have to like completely fund my own expenses.
Okay.
Yeah, so they kicked me out over the summer.
And so what did something happen?
Well, they're like, they've always been super strict.
It was like something over.
It was so stupid.
It was like over, first it was over dishes and then they found out I got a B in a class and they were like, no, you need to come home and go to school in Texas.
And I was like, no, I'm not doing that.
So yeah.
So yeah, so now I'm funding myself completely.
Wow.
Yeah.
You got a B.
Yeah.
Is it B plus or B minus or just a B?
It was just a B right in the middle.
What class was it?
It was biology, plant bio, plant biology, ant fuck up and plant biology.
It's pretty hard.
So they get your report card or whatever.
Yeah, they were like, let me see your grades.
And, oh, and they also saw my Instagram.
They were like, no.
Ah, okay.
Now we need more details.
Okay.
What was on your Instagram?
You see my Instagram.
It's normal.
They're just like super strict.
Well, your parents are.
Are you Orthodox Christian?
Or what?
Yeah, I'm Orthodox.
And you're, I'm trying to remember.
It's Ethiopian.
Yeah, I'm Ethiopian.
You're Ethiopian.
Ethiopian Eritrean.
So is there a subterm for that kind of Orthodox Christianity?
Yeah, it's Ethiopian.
Orthodox.
Yeah.
Okay, so they're very strict and conservative.
Yeah, very.
And then they see you in number one party school.
Titties out.
Okay, it was a big one.
They saw your Instagram, huh?
There's just bikinis.
And they were like.
But they were not approving of that because they're conservative.
That.
Yeah, that was a huge part.
So do you think it was more so that versus the B?
No, they asked for that first, and then they were like, okay, let's see your grades.
And obviously they expect like straight A's.
So they saw that I got a B and they were like, no, we're not financially funding your whole life for you to like just go out and like, you know, just be crazy.
Damn.
Okay.
So you downgraded.
I mean, Santa Barbara City College is nice.
I'm okay.
I'm thinking of transferring, though, to UCLA, hopefully.
Okay.
So.
I mean, you know, it's not the worst plan, though.
I mean, you save a bit of money going to the city college, you know, because the university is more expensive.
It was the bikini photos, wasn't it?
Oh, my gosh, Brian.
They just couldn't, you know, your parents were, you know, I don't know.
Yeah.
Not cool with it.
Okay.
Anything else?
No, that's all.
So the dishes, the B, and Instagram photos.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
I feel like there's something else.
Okay.
Well, no.
But what about you?
My name is Bailey Jane.
I am 25, almost 26.
And I'm an exotic dancer, entrepreneur, engineer, singer, rapper.
And what else was I going to say?
Okay, that's it for now.
You're a rapper?
Yes.
Was she a rap?
Were you a rapper last time you were on the show?
No.
All right, let's hear something.
Go ahead.
You did ask me.
You asked me every time.
But you never want to drop a beat or anybody here know how to do a beat?
Nah, I can't do it on a beat box.
Nick, go full screen on OBS.
Although they did for yeah.
Yeah, I'm like B-Rabbit.
Look, if M. You want me to roast you?
He wouldn't need a beat.
He would just a cappella that shit.
Oh, yeah.
You want me to roast you?
In a rap?
Yeah.
I think you should roast yourself.
Do it.
No.
Okay, maybe later.
I'm a little too nervous right now to do it.
Every time.
Every time.
Because I need a shot.
I need a shot.
There's so many AR people watching the stream right now, and all these girls who come on and sing and never do, they just totally fumbling their chance to be discovered.
You know, we got fumbling.
I'm pretty good.
Don't worry.
Don't worry about me.
You're good on your rap career?
Yeah.
Been hanging out with big rappers recently.
Well, hold on.
Hanging out with a rapper.
But they're inspiring me.
They're making me better.
You hang around people you want to be like.
So I've been hanging around Buster Rhines and like Flowrider.
Flowrider.
And I'm getting better.
And I'm getting better at like.
When's the last time you kicked it with Flowrider?
Let's not talk about that, actually.
Oh.
Yeah.
No.
He blocked me.
Why did he block you?
Oh no!
He didn't give me any reason.
I think I was like blowing his mind too much, and he's like, What?
Who the fuck is this girl?
Yeah, like I and he probably was a little scared of me too.
I think he what?
A little scared of me, blowing his mind, and also I think I confused him a little bit.
But it's okay.
Yeah.
How did you confuse him?
I wasn't trying to bring this up.
I don't even know why I did this.
Next question.
Next question.
I don't know.
He didn't tell me anything.
He just, yeah.
He just blocked me.
Magical things happened.
Really, it was beautiful, so I don't know why he blocked me, but it's okay.
One day he probably will return.
Did you like hook up with him?
No, but I thought he wanted to, and it got strange.
Did you hook up with Busta?
No, there's a lot of stuff going on, but I can't speak about any of this.
Love stuff going on?
No, we're just, it's just a work thing, you know.
Just friends.
So, critically acclaimed rap artists, Flo Rida and Busta Rhymes, are working with you?
No, I said a lot of things.
I said I'm hanging around them, and it's helping me get better at fast rapping and rapping just by being around them.
It's so crazy.
Like, watching them.
If Low Rider was here, he would be a cappella.
He would be dropping the knock.
No, you want it.
No beat needed.
No, you want it.
Obviously, he hasn't rubbed it.
I don't even think he freestyles, but actually, Busta does.
Busta used to with Jay-Z and everybody.
So he actually probably could.
Wait, Buster Rhymes.
Is that a movie?
He just got a star.
You just got a star in the family.
Break your neck.
Is that he's just in a new movie?
No, he's just in Naked Gun, and he just got a star in the Walk of Fame.
You see me start rapping it?
And then you dated Drake or something.
No, why did you have to say it like that?
No.
Okay, you fucked Drake.
I don't know.
How would you feel if I say it?
Okay, we're twin flames, but we don't have to be together because that's something that it's like true for twin flames.
Because if one of them does the work and the other one doesn't, the one that does the work, it's up to them if they want to be in a partnership.
And I don't want to be with him.
But that was kind of harsh.
But that's only because I'm doing the work to be my best self and he isn't, despite what it looks like.
Because it looks like he's doing all this work on himself.
But he is physically doing all this work.
Like he stays busy.
He has a lot of money.
He's super.
He works all the time.
He works too much, though, actually.
Wait, did you actually fuck Drake?
No, I never fucked him.
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry.
No, I don't know why Brian said that.
He just turned the went on a date with him.
We've hung out a lot and I know his friends.
We've hung out a lot.
Like a handful of times, but a handful of times.
In the spiritual world.
What's a handful?
In the dream world, a lot.
In the dream world.
Physically, like three, four times, but really.
You can't count the dream.
We didn't really like hang out.
I fucked a bunch of supermalls in the dream world.
Doesn't mean I hung out with them.
No, but we didn't like really.
I don't have sex dreams, by the way.
It's mostly just me.
He's scared of me.
He's scared of me.
He's scared of me right now.
So let's see.
Drake is scared of you.
He couldn't even say, like, I had to speak to him first because he was so scared.
But he came up to me, made sure everybody left the dance floor, came up to me, and didn't say anything.
I actually had to talk to him first.
Wow.
I totally believe everything you've just said.
Well, I hope you do because it's true.
You have to scared me.
And then, wait, wait.
Did you have like a photo?
Wait, wait, listen.
And then, and then, at the same time.
Did you have a selfie with me?
Wait, at this party?
Do you have a selfie with him?
Hell no.
Do you have a selfie with any of these?
Okay, if I'm, no matter who, I'm.
Yes.
No.
Because I don't care about it.
And most of them, I just, I don't know.
If they wanted a picture with me, I would take one.
But I'm not going to go out of my way to ask them because I'm also famous.
So I don't really.
Drake, I want a picture with you.
Or anybody.
I'm a twin flame.
She knows what she wants.
I know who I am.
She knows who is.
People aren't like walking up to random people in the street being like, Can I take a photo with you, person I don't know?
He does know me.
Yeah, but you're like a normie civilian to him.
No, he knows exactly who I am, so that's why he was so nervous to talk to me.
I wonder if you're in like you're mixed up in like a romance scam where some dude's pretending to be Drake.
No, but actually, you know what's crazy?
I dated a doppelganger that looked just like him, which is actually insane.
I don't know why I did that.
That was a karmic.
You dated the doppelganger?
It ended up being a karmic, but I literally, he lived closest to me at the time, and I'm like, this is actually really insane because he looks more like Drake than all the other doppelgangers that you see online.
It was really intense, actually.
Okay.
Yeah, he has cancer, though.
Who does?
He was a cancer.
And he's a lifeguard.
He's like Ken.
He was a lifeguard.
And I was like, oh.
Wow, that's a lot.
Thank you for all that.
Also, we're going to get into your past life stuff, too.
No.
This life.
Didn't you see?
Okay, so really quick recap.
In past lives, either you've dated people in your past lives who were like dictators and shit, but you've also dated men who in their past life.
Was.
So didn't somebody in their past.
What was the Abraham Lincoln thing?
And it's funny because there was a girl that's actually related to him that was on the show last time, if you remember.
And like me and her kind of became friends after this.
But yeah, so Abraham Lincoln reincarnated and so did Teddy Roosevelt.
And I met them both in this life, helped them find out that that's who they were.
And now they tell everybody because they see it now too.
And they both wanted to date me.
And they both knew each other, but they didn't know that they were Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt until like I pieced it all together.
And they have a mutual friend.
Their main, like, they're both of their main friends.
I'm messing this up.
I'm sorry.
I'm like, you're good.
Like, they have the same mutual friend and they worked at the same jobs and they still had no idea who they were until recently.
But they worked together for like 30 years and they didn't know that they were Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt.
So you met two different guys and in their past lives, one of them was Abraham Lincoln.
100%.
And the other Teddy Roosevelt.
100%.
Have you met any other heads of state?
No, but I know that Andrew Jackson was Epstein, but we can't talk about that too much.
What?
They're all like back.
Almost all the presidents are back.
I wonder if I'm going to find out.
How do you know that Jeffrey was Andrew Jackson?
Well, look at how he looks.
he's almost the same he is pretty do you have to meet the person to not him in this case because it was like pretty easy but usually i have to meet them in person and then you met figured no No, I didn't meet him.
Thank God.
So how do you know who he was in his past life?
Because you could tell.
It's so easy, bro.
You can just tell me.
It's like a feeling.
It's a feeling.
It's a feeling.
It's his looks.
And then it's his authority that he also had in this life.
And then it's just intuition.
It's the same.
But the way that I found out about Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, this was way more magical.
It was way more magical.
But Andrew, I think it's him.
I think it's him.
Oh, sorry.
I think it's him.
What about it?
Marcus Marcus Aurelius, or who was it?
You dated Julius Caesar.
Oh, yeah.
Then I found Caesar, well, Emperor Augustus, and I actually dated him, but I found out that was his past life.
So actually, a lot of people are reincarnated, and either they won't find out until they die, or someone like me could possibly see that you were someone to like help you.
And there's actually psychics you could go to that will tell you these things that are specialized in this.
I'm not, but I'm starting to be at this point.
Who was the guy?
You met a guy who in his past life was Julius Caesar.
Emperor Augustus.
So that's his dad, right?
That's his dad.
He's Little Caesar, Pizza Pizza.
I dated Little Caesar.
Okay, you did it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Who's the so okay?
Who's the guy who you hooked up with who was the most notable person in a past life?
Probably him.
Probably.
Oh, you hooked up with the CEO.
Emperor Augustus because he was like the richest.
He was the longest ruling, one of the most popular.
Yeah.
That's why I dated him.
He was like my longest relationship, too, I think.
Would he do a year and a half?
Would he do Roman salutes like during sex?
No, but it was so crazy because we went to a museum and he didn't say he liked any statue except for the bust of Emperor Augustus.
But at the time, he didn't physically know that it was him.
And his soul told me right away, like, find out who I am.
I'm not going to tell you.
Have you met Jesus?
Not in this life.
No.
Wait, spiritually.
He's not here.
Physically.
It's just Augustus.
Oh, you mean his dad?
Oh, actually, no, I didn't.
But you know what's crazy?
Wait, wait, let me finish.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
So his wife, Emperor Augustus' wife, and his past life poisoned him, and that's how he actually died.
It's a speculation, but this actually really happened.
And she also reincarnated?
It gets even more magical.
She reincarnated, and it's Dualipa.
Poison IP.
Who are you?
Who were you in the past life?
Anyone famous?
Yes, but I don't think I was here physically.
And if I was, it doesn't matter.
If I was here.
I don't know.
Were you like a famous queen or something?
Yes, I'm someone famous, but I can't say.
Why?
Because that's a story for another time.
Maybe next episode.
Just say who it is.
No.
That's next episode.
Come on.
I have so much other things to say in this one.
But yes, I was someone well known.
That's why I ended up being with a lot of these people in these positions because I can handle being with them, I guess, more than other people.
Yeah.
Thank you for sharing that insightful passage of information.
What about you?
Hey, what's up?
I'm Gothi.
And before that, girl, where are you getting your shrooms?
Right?
Anyways, okay, so yeah, so I'm Gothi.
I'm 27 years old, and I am a TikTok live stream girly.
So you see me selling like random shit on TikTok.
And I am going to school right now for acting and stuff like that.
But I'm also taking like random classes.
I went to school before, but then I just decided, you know, why not go to school again and just take some classes, learn something new and different.
And other than that, I'm from California.
I moved around a lot, military brat, so, you know, was everywhere.
But now, you know, just here.
Did you go to college or university?
Just college, community college.
I don't believe in university.
You have your associate's degree then?
Yes.
In what?
In liberal arts and humanities.
Okay, got it.
All right.
What about you?
My name's Erica.
I am 24 and I'm from Oregon, and I'm currently a caregiver.
All right.
And you say, okay, you're from Oregon.
Education?
High school.
High school.
Got it.
Okay.
All right.
That's everybody's intro.
We're going to go around the table in just a moment, get everybody's relationship status.
But first, we have some messages coming through.
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Care 6.
What medications are you currently on?
Sativa, to make myself high all the time.
To keep him off my mind, I'm just kidding.
Do you have any have you been diagnosed with anything?
I have autism, but low-key autism and low-key autism.
Okay, ADD and yeah.
Good times.
Good times.
Oh, we got superpowers.
Got an old friend here coming through in just a moment.
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Thank you, Grid One.
Good to see you in the chat, man.
You're a fucking legend.
Appreciate it.
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Bruh, I dropped by to say what's up, Brixon, and stumble right into batshit crazy chick.
I will be out in the area for TouchCon next month.
If I get a chance, I can maybe drop by.
Come here.
Yo, grid one.
Thank you, man.
Do you want to respond to grid one?
He said you're bat shit crazy.
Yeah, that's true.
I am crazy.
Well, she's self-aware, I guess.
Thank you, Grid One.
Appreciate it.
Stay tuned, grid one.
We got a good show.
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Okay, Cha says, Brian, chair one was once institutionalized, which is fair.
She probably needed it.
Chair six needs to be an institution right this second.
I applaud your monthly R Tard charity streams, though.
Thank you, Cha.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I'm too.
Thank you.
I'm too real for you.
That's why you want me to be in there because you don't want me to change the world.
But it's already happening, no matter what.
She's changing the world one strip dance at a time.
One oh strip because you yeah, that's one way to spread love.
Yeah, and I sing by singing, taking all the souls back.
You didn't sing right now.
That rude got Pasty George once again.
Pasty George donated $200.
Hey, Brian, in a past life, you were once an indigenous person, but decided to be white this time around because you got bored LOL.
Why did they open this?
This is true.
In my past life, I was a Chumash, local, local tribe here in San Barbara.
I was Chumash, past life.
Before that, I was.
I was actually more so Latin America.
I was Aztec.
Before that, I was Inca.
Or wait.
You may actually go to the bottom.
What the fuck, Felicity?
Oh, Christ.
Bailey said last one.
Oh, wait.
No, someone else said that.
Remember?
Why do you guys say that?
No.
Someone said you were Hitler the last time Bailey was on the show.
I don't remember if it was Bailey.
Yeah, I told you.
But no, it wasn't me that said it.
Someone just brought it up.
I'm like, maybe you were.
Wow.
I see the resemblance.
That is interesting.
That is.
That's an interesting.
By the way, Hitler wasn't as bad as probably people think.
But he was bad.
Don't worry.
But okay, we're not going to go down that rabbit hole.
Yeah.
But what is your current relationship status?
How long have you been single?
If you're single, and what's the longest relationship you've been in?
Currently, I'm like not dating the person I'm seeing yet because we just kind of started seeing each other recently, but I'm like, exclusively seeing someone.
I wouldn't call it a situationship.
So you're not single?
No.
Okay, so you're not a relationship.
On all technicalities.
How long have you been seeing the guy?
Like, seriously, like give or take, like a month now.
How long have you known him?
Like a couple months, like half a year.
What's that on your neck?
Is that from him?
No.
Okay.
I'm just gonna say dating, I guess.
Two months or whatever.
Is it exclusive?
Are you guys yeah, yes.
So it's monogamous.
Yes.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
It was on and off for a couple years.
That was like my first love.
I don't know.
It was literally just on and off for a couple years.
And then like while.
He's in prison?
Yeah, that, yeah.
Forever.
For doing what?
Like, forever of murder.
Oh.
Yeah, that happened while I was in my program.
Like, I guess like six months in, he got like locked up.
And so like when I went on my home visit, my friend was like, oh, yeah.
He's, he's, you wrote three felony charges for awaiting trial.
Yeah, so he's been like awaiting trial for like two years now or something.
And like.
He murdered one person?
Dude, okay.
I don't even like right.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I wasn't.
I was, I was charges.
It's, it's felony, murder, and uh.
Smiling.
No, this is okay.
This is like how I respond when I'm uncomfortable because it's like what was he doing?
Were you involved?
No.
No, okay.
So here's my thing is it's just really unfortunate because it's not just him that was charged with it.
It's like him, his uncles, this other kid I went to like middle school with, and then like two other kids.
So that's what I'm saying when I say I don't know because it's like six of them charged with like the same thing or whatever.
And this was two years ago.
Yeah.
Like I was in Utah.
And so I come back and like my friends are like, oh yeah, that guy, he's gone.
I was like, okay, that's cool.
That's cool.
First love.
That's awesome, actually.
You were dating him for like what, two years or something?
We started seeing each other when I was like 14, turning 15.
And then we were.
How old was he?
It was like 16, 17.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But we were on and off.
Anyway, we weren't on and off until I was like almost 18.
Was he while you were dating him?
Was he engaged in any other kind of criminal activity?
Dude, so when we started dating, he was sober and like fine.
And then he met you.
Damn.
Wow, that's a huge indictment.
Yeah.
He was sober.
And then he met this girl.
Okay.
And now he, it sounds like he's a drug addict.
How old was I?
Can we blame this on me?
And in prison for multiple felonies, murder.
Okay, so it started with the murder and then like his like.
Wait, it started with the murder.
Yeah, well, and then his while he's in there and like started moving stuff, I guess.
Because when I went to check his charges like half a year ago or something, he had two more.
Oh, in so now he has three felonies.
Yeah, he's never getting out.
Why would you do that?
Because he didn't even like, he hasn't been convicted of murder yet.
So like maybe he could have gotten off.
But now he has two other felonies in there.
So he's just like done.
Okay, he got charged while he was in prison or jail, I guess.
Yeah.
For drugs.
For like moving stuff, yeah.
It said like possession.
Have you visited him in jail?
No.
I cut contact like uh-uh.
Do you know any details about what happened?
Um, I have like a like a friend who talks to like one of the guys who was also charged.
Like, because we all, it was a small like area we grew up in.
We all like knew.
Coachella?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, I mean, I don't know.
I haven't heard anything or like checked.
I mean, really, other than the felonies, right?
That he got more than one person murdered.
No, it was just one person.
One person murdered.
Yeah.
And then it was like, I don't know, his like, like family was there.
And then they got caught up and then they like snitched him out, I guess.
And then he got caught up like a week later.
Was this good?
And then they all started dropping like for.
Was seen a gang?
No.
Not gang related?
No, no.
There's just like really bad like gun violence where I'm from.
Like bad.
In Coachella?
Yeah.
Isn't it like a nice place?
See, that's, I feel like a lot of people think that until you like live like out there.
Live.
Yeah, like actually like live out there because it's not like really a vacation spot.
Like I don't know if you've ever been to like Coach LFS and you accidentally get stuck out there like anywhere out there.
It's really not great.
Good times.
Yeah.
Good times.
Yeah.
All right.
But anyways, that was your longest relationship.
You said you have a lot more lore, but we'll come back to that.
What about you?
I'm single.
I've been single forever.
I just started dating after I moved here almost like two years ago.
And I heavily dated.
Like I'm exploring stage.
Kind of.
When you say you've been single forever, what do you mean?
Like I never been in relationships.
You've never been in a relationship?
Never.
I'm 25.
Did you date in China?
Never, because my family was very strict.
Strict, okay.
Strict.
I have curfew and I didn't have any, like, I didn't have that much social media.
Is your family in the government?
They are not, but they are in national corporate.
They're business.
Yeah.
Business people.
Okay.
Did you date in Korea at all?
I wouldn't say dating, but.
What would you say?
It wasn't a relationship, but I was using Tinder.
Using Tinder?
Yeah, that was the first time I was exposed to Tinder because in China, I don't know.
Not many use Tinder where it was banned.
I forgot.
Okay.
And then nothing here.
You've been here for two and a half years, anything?
Yeah, heavily dated, but...
Heavily dated.
Dated, yeah.
Dated, but no boyfriend.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll come back to some of that, but in your notes, you say you were, uh, well, I'll come back to it.
What about you?
I've been single for about two weeks.
Two weeks yesterday.
And not kind of not seen anyone, seriously.
Okay.
And my longest relationship, in my opinion, would be two years.
Technically.
In your opinion?
It's confusing.
the guy disagree um I think yeah he would disagree but I'm just I we see time differently so So it's like we dated for a year and then broke up for eight months and then dated for another year and then broke up two weeks ago.
So I kind of just added up the time from there.
I see.
Okay.
Who broke up with who?
It was a very mutual decision since February.
And it was a good breakup.
It only took about 15 minutes.
Good breakup.
Yeah.
Short.
To the point.
Yeah, he only cried until I just literally moved to Santa Barbara.
He cried.
He cried.
Did you cry?
I did cry, but not when we were breaking up.
It was when his mom started crying to me.
The mom was there at the breakup.
Yeah, she was like outside the room.
And so when I was like walking out, she started crying and I then just started crying from there.
But other than that, it was a good breakup.
We still kept in contact on messages, but I recently blocked in because I don't think it was good for us to keep contact again.
But yeah.
I see.
And you said that you're sort of single.
I sensed a little bit of like, maybe there's somebody in the picture.
I mean, I feel guilty for not guilty, but I feel weird saying it because the first time me and my ex broke up for those eight months, I was just going around with people.
When you say going around with people, what do you mean?
I mean like hooking up, just having fun.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hooking up, having fun.
I do and don't regret them, but like when we got and me and my ex got back together, like it felt different because I was older, probably more mature.
And since now, since we broken up, I was sad for like the first day, but I wasn't crying.
I downloaded Tinder for a bit and then deleted it a couple days ago.
But on Tinder, I met a guy for the second time and went to his house.
And we've only been hanging out for the last two weekends, but he's he's done everything that I wish my ex would have done.
Which is what?
Like, maybe give me flowers, give me compliments a lot.
Oh, he got you flowers?
Yeah.
Like two times or just once?
Just once the first time, and then the second time it was just, you know.
And the first time?
That was the first time you met him?
Yeah.
Okay.
Got you flowers.
Yeah.
Did you, what was like, you went over to his house on the first time?
Yeah, I went to his house on the first time because I thought it was just going to be a hookup.
Oh.
Okay.
And did not turn out that way.
And so, yeah, now we're, I guess, kind of talking.
Yeah.
Nice.
So, and that was, what, a week ago?
Like, two weeks ago.
Question.
How soon after the breakup conversation did you meet this new guy?
It was the day of our breakup.
I thought.
Wait, like the same day?
Yeah, so the same day.
So 3 p.m.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Jake or whatever, you know.
Sorry, can't do it.
And then you drove over right after.
So it was like, I moved to Santa Barbara maybe like two and a half weeks ago, and I moved here the same day me and my ex broke up.
And then the same day I downloaded Tinder.
And then I think the next day I went to the guy's house just because I was just kind of sad for the first day.
And I needed a warm body.
I guess, yeah.
Okay.
And I just thought it was going to be hookup and that's it.
So I wasn't like prepared for anything.
So how did that first encounter go?
Like you went over like expecting it to be like a fuckboy, but then here he's got you flowers and stuff.
It was pretty alarming.
We're still a fuckboy, but also gave you flowers.
Maybe.
I mean, it was pretty alarming because I didn't expect that.
That's never happened before.
Did you appreciate it or were you like too much?
Both.
Because I don't know.
If it's flowers for a special occasion, I get that.
But you don't know the guy.
No.
I mean, actually, yeah, we've been hanging out actually a lot and talking on the phone.
But the first time.
Yeah, the first time.
You didn't know this guy, right?
No.
And usually I never received flowers like on a first date or even a first hookup.
So I was just like, oh, okay.
And then as I got to know him, it was like six hours of just talking.
And it was pretty weird to me because that's never happened in a hookup before to me.
And so you guys, you go over, he gives you flowers and you talk for six hours.
Yeah.
And then you hook up?
Yeah.
After the six hours of talking.
Yep.
Okay.
It kind of just felt like a date.
You said there were other hookups you've had in the past.
How have those typically gone different for you?
It's usually like straight off the bat, like saying, hi, how are you?
And then immediately going into flirting.
And then, you know, you get more comfortable and it just happens.
And then after that, just kind of leave and that's it.
So you'll go to the guy's house.
Like how soon typically, like, okay, you walk through the door.
And is it like immediately?
Is there like 15 minutes of talk?
It's more like 15 minutes.
Yeah.
15 minutes and then they just go for it.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's the quickest ever?
Quickest?
Probably.
I mean, it probably was around five minutes.
Five minutes?
Front door.
Straight to business.
It was actually in my car in a parking lot.
Oh, it was in your car.
Yeah.
In the parking lot.
Yeah.
Of a 7-Eleven?
It was an ice cream store.
Okay, that's better than 7-Eleven in the parking lot.
Was it a nice ice cream store?
Yeah, I guess.
Did you guys have ice cream or not really?
You skipped the ice cream?
No, he left and then I actually got the ice cream because I was feeling pretty hot.
Oh, he left?
Yeah.
After we were done, like, it was, that's it.
Like, what was the, how long were you guys kicking it?
20 minutes?
20 minutes?
Showed.
Wait, showed up.
And then he just dips?
Yeah.
And so, were you, like, already in the back seat?
Or how does that happen?
No, like, I was in my driver's seat, and then I kind of just went to the passenger seat that had, like, you can just put it down all the way.
So, yeah.
Wait, so, okay.
So, he pulls up in his car.
Or did you pick him up?
No, I met at the parking lot that was near my house, and then he met me.
He met you at the parking lot?
Yeah, and then he parked.
And then he goes into your car?
Yeah, because my car is nicer.
It's really, no, it's really big.
It's a Toyota Sequoia.
That's a truck, right?
Or wait, Sequoia?
Or is that a?
It's a van.
It's a boot van.
Oh, you have a van.
A minivan.
Not a minivan, it's just the size of the car.
Is it your car or your parents' car?
It was my mom's old car, and she gave it to me.
Oh, she gave it to you, okay.
So then did you get out and like meet outside of the cars, or did you just stay in the car the whole time?
Just stay in the car side the car the whole time.
He just like came into my passenger seat.
And then we just.
He came into the passenger seat?
Yes.
And then you went to the passenger seat.
No, like we talked for like maybe two minutes.
Two minutes.
How does that go?
Like, how does it go?
Like, does he make the first move?
Yeah, usually that's what I almost never make the first move.
So he's like, hi, I'm Brad.
Nice to meet you.
And he just like goes for it?
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
Yeah.
Didn't last very long, though.
No, it didn't.
I mean, to be fair, car sex is kind of uncomfortable.
It's a little.
Yeah, I mean, he wasn't like a big dude, so it wasn't like uncomfortable in my life.
He was like a little taller than me.
And like build-wise, just normal.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Was it good?
It was a bit uncomfortable because actually that was the first time doing it in my car.
In your car?
Yeah.
So it was a bit hard to maneuver, but other than that, it was okay.
It wasn't the best, but it was okay.
Okay.
And you've, but you've, sometimes you'll go to the guy's place.
Most of the time, yeah.
That's how.
And usually it maybe shocked you, this most recent guy, because he talked to you for six hours beforehand, got you flowers.
You've seen him again.
But can you go into detail on any of the other hookups you've had?
Like, that might have been interesting or unique?
Um, I mean...
Or is it pretty standard?
Like it sounds like you just go to their house and hook up pretty quickly?
Pretty like diff sometimes it's most of the time it's different with all guys because I care a lot about people.
So most of the time I'll try to do more talking because I don't know.
I just think it's just like talking to people.
And then most of the time we'll stay friends.
And.
Do any of them ever want to do like round two?
Yeah, like friends with benefits.
That's so it's like just a hookup, but then I'll keep talking to them and like we'll keep texting, but not in like a talking way, like if we're in a friend's way, and so it then eventually just turns into friends with benefits.
Gotcha.
Do you have a you said that okay, you were dating the guy for a year, then you guys were on a break for eight months.
Uh, during that eight-month break, you this is kind of when you're just having some fun, uh, like hooking up with guys, keeping it uh casual.
Did you have a roster of guys?
Because I, you said that some of these guys you would continue seeing and friends with benefits.
Uh, I guess did you have a roster then?
Um, yeah, for a while it would like go up and down, but then at one point, like they all came back at the same time, which is all came back.
It was like, okay.
Um, what was the biggest the roster ever was?
Uh, do I have to be honest?
Like, yes, no shame, no shame here, no shame.
No, it's not that big, um, like five or six, I think.
Five or six on the roster at the same time, yeah, at the same time, okay.
And um, was there ever any that you were just like bad experience, only a one-time thing?
Yeah, a couple of those, or um, like two or three, two or three, okay.
And did they, did they want to still see you, or were you it was more so on your end?
You're like, nah, I'm not feeling it, uh, yeah, it was more so on my end, but we still continued to be friends.
If you were already friends with benefits, and most of these guys you would meet them like on Tinder, or where were they?
Um, actually, no, only one guy on Tinder.
Um, well, two people now.
Um, most of them were co-workers or friends of friends.
Okay, so gotcha.
All right.
Uh, so the roster was at its biggest, you said five to six?
Yeah, but then you said there was one moment, one moment that will go down in history where they all just were just, I don't know, they came back.
They're like, damn, I need more of you.
That was, I think, seven or eight, but it wasn't like we were doing anything.
It was my ex coming into my life again.
Yeah.
And one other person trying to have like a serious talking stage with me, but I just wasn't that interested.
And then the other few were like, you know, friends with benefits still.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So like sometimes he'll disappear or I'll disappear and then just come back every couple weeks or something.
And then, so the guy who you were seeing for two years collectively, there was that break after about a year when you guys were together.
Who, that first break, who initiated it?
It was confusing because I did it first, got back with him.
He did it to me.
And then he was trying to get back with me for a week, but in my mindset, because he already broke up with me, I, you know, don't want to get back with him.
And then something occurred, and then he like officially, officially was done with me.
And then I left.
Yeah.
Okay.
For that, there was that initial breakup, I guess, where there was the break for the eight-month period.
How soon into that break did you start doing some of the more hookup stuff?
It's pretty embarrassing, but it was the same day we broke up the first time.
Same day.
Yeah.
And were these guys that you had like in the back pocket or you like break up and then you meet them?
The guy that I met the same day I hooked up with on the day of my first breakup was when me and my ex were still like he was trying to still get back with me.
I went to my friend's house the night before and I greened out and there was this guy taking care of me and I really appreciated that.
And then he asked me the next day if he wanted if we could go thrifting.
And then, coincidentally, the next day, you know, me and my ex were officially done.
And then we went thrifting, went to this, like, hill spot, and then it happened.
Yeah.
And was he one of the friends with benefits guys that you saw for a little bit?
Yeah.
Okay.
Gotcha.
All right.
And then, so that was pretty quick after that breakup.
And then the most recent breakup, same guy that happened two weeks ago.
To clarify, was it the next day or the same day that you got on Tinder and then met this current guy we were seeing?
The day of our breakup was the same day I got Tinder, but it was the next day that I met the guy.
Okay, so the day after, that's when you guys had hooked up, and then you hooked up again.
do you like the guy you think you're gonna yeah he's actually like probably the most respectful guy i've ever met okay um he's He just gives me way more confidence and reassurance that any guy has ever did.
So what does he do?
I mean, you said he got you flowers, but what else?
He, you know, buys me food.
We go out.
I helped him decorate his room.
We went thrifting a while.
And then, you know, we just actually like, we'd actually like go out and talk and have fun.
like a normal relationship would be.
So are you guys, well, okay, you've been single for two weeks, but there's this one guy in the picture.
In this two-week period, any other guys in the picture?
No.
No other guys?
You haven't gone out on a date or hookup or anything?
No, but where I live, like a few guys have hit on me, but I didn't really want to do that.
Okay.
And so what are you looking for right now?
Are you thinking maybe this guy you could end up boyfriend, girlfriend, or are you trying to keep things a little more casual?
The guy I'm not sure with because, again, I've been single for two weeks.
And so I feel kind of guilty moving on too fast.
But again, I don't feel like super sad about the breakup.
Even though I was sad for a little bit, like, you know, I don't know.
I expected it to happen since February.
And I don't know.
We have talked about that.
We just said we'll see where it goes.
Got it.
Okay.
What about you?
I am currently single.
My longest relationship was probably two, almost three years.
That was like during COVID.
So I was like maybe turn, I was 19, turning 20 at the time.
Okay.
And then I had another relationship after.
But then that one ended, I believe, beginning of March of this year.
Got it.
And so you've been single for two years, you said?
I was, well, I've been single officially for like six, seven months now.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Oh, I'm currently single right now.
My longest relationship has been for about a year.
How long have you been single for?
So I kind of had a thing over the summer for like a month at the start of the summer.
But I had to dump him low-key.
Why is that?
So I feel like he just wasn't stepping up enough, like financially wise.
So I had to like just, I couldn't, yeah.
And so you were seeing him for how long?
Just a month?
A month.
And so this was maybe, what, two months ago?
Yeah.
Okay, single for two months.
Have you been dating anybody else?
No, I have not.
Any other situations prior to him?
Dates.
I've gone on dates.
Okay.
I wasn't really interested in a lot of them.
So you'd go on one date, that would be it.
Um, yeah.
Okay.
This guy you were seeing in the summer for one month, you said that he wasn't stepping up financially.
How old was he?
Um, so he was 23.
23, okay, and you're 18.
Yeah.
Uh, when you say he wasn't stepping up financially, what do you mean?
So I felt like, I don't know, previously in my relationships, like, they just stepped up more financially.
Um, especially since he's like 23, I expected him to, like, you know, just buy me more stuff.
You know, buy me more stuff.
Well, would he pay for dates?
Of course.
Oh, of course.
Okay, so he would pay for dates.
Yeah.
But you guys were only together for a month.
So what were your expectations in terms of what he should have been buying you?
So, like, I sent him a picture of the Chanel bag that I wanted, and he didn't, like, buy me it.
So, I just thought it was a good thing.
You're so full of shit.
You're so full of shit.
Is this true?
Yes.
I don't know.
I feel like you're just doing a bit, but.
No, like, I feel like if a girl is sending you something, like, oh, this bag is so cute.
Like, why is it not at the front of my doorstep the next day?
How long were you dating?
I know your troll.
Months?
I know your troll.
No, no, it wasn't.
It was like probably, it was like 2,000?
He's 23, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What did he do for work?
What did he do for work?
He was like, it was something with business.
I don't know.
Something with business.
I don't know what he does.
He does like anything.
I don't know.
Something with business.
I didn't really ask.
He's either janitor of a business or the CEO of a business.
You didn't ask him?
The guy you did for a month?
You didn't know what he did for work?
No.
So you were going to work.
You wanted him to buy you a $2,000.
Yeah.
I feel like that's a good idea.
Besides the bag, what else should he have done?
I mean, I would say he did a decent amount.
I think just like the financial part, I feel.
How much do you think he spent on you total?
Total?
Yeah.
I don't know.
We went on a date at least once a week.
So maybe like $200 per date.
And then.
Yeah.
Did you guys hook up?
No.
No?
No.
Is he also Ethiopian Christian?
No, he was white.
I don't know what kind.
Just white.
Yeah.
Okay.
And you're.
Okay.
What did the girls think on the panel?
Like, 23-year-old guy talking, dating this girl for a month.
Were you guys $2,000 for a better life?
Yes.
Yumbled boyfriend, girlfriend.
After a month?
Yeah.
After a week, like, I'll know if I want to date you or not.
Like, I'm not waiting a whole month.
Like, I'm not going to be in a talking stage for like three, four weeks.
And then, like, we've already done all the boyfriend, girlfriend stuff.
In a week?
Early.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if you have a vibe with him, like, I understand.
Like, there's like chemistry, you know, because I've had times where I'm like, oh, I like, you know, I like him.
You know, low-key.
Obviously, like, if she wanted that, then it's okay to ask for it, right?
But there's a difference from expecting him because now you see where he's coming from.
And it's like, okay, he's obviously not able to do that.
If that's something that you want from someone, then look for someone that actually, you know, I mean, he would spend a lot of his money on like sports betting and all of that.
So if you can put your money in.
Hold on.
Sorry, could you repeat the thing you said about how it's okay for her to ask for a $2,000 bag?
I mean, yeah, I think it's okay.
Have you done that?
Have you asked me?
No, I haven't.
You know what?
I've asked for things, but I don't think I've asked for like a $2,000 bag like straight up in like the first month.
So that's why I think, I think it's crazy that you did that, but I feel like if that's something you want, you like, then why not?
You know?
And then, you know, there's a guy out there that will actually give it to you if he really likes you.
I've had situations where they like, you know, they would give me it because they really love me.
I'd like him to.
If you find Drake, he might give you one.
There you go.
You sent it.
And if they really like you.
Yeah.
He kissed them right away.
Yo, get her phone.
I don't believe this shit.
I get a text message.
Oh, blocked, removed.
My parents look through my phone.
Like, I cannot have anything inappropriate in there.
And I was at the time.
I was like, you wrote in the message.
So I was like, first I screenshotted the Chanel bag online.
Yeah.
And I sent him.
I was like, oh my gosh, this bag is so cute.
I didn't ask him to get me the bag or anything, but obviously, like, if I'm dating you, like, you know, I feel like you should understand me, you know?
You know, I want that bag.
That sounds more like a sugar daddy than a boyfriend.
No.
Yeah, it really does.
And it's really hypocritical that you didn't even like care to know what job he had, but you want his money.
Like, I don't want his money.
I just feel like it's expected.
It shouldn't be expected.
What is it?
Like the love language?
Like, you just gift giving.
Yeah.
Anita Leo.
There you go.
Like, I feel like it's just the type of person you ask, you know?
I agree.
But like, I get it.
The first month is like, what the fuck?
You want a guy to spend $2,000 on you within the first month?
You got to bump way up the age you're willing to date.
I'm talking 40 plus.
Oh, nobody under, unless he's a major simp, nobody under 40 either has the money to do that or would be willing to is spending $2,000 on a girl they just met.
Okay.
You gotta, you gotta pump those numbers up if you want to get that kind of treatment.
Or were you like cleaning his house and doing his laundry and cooking him meals?
Are you just being like, give me money because I'm your girlfriend?
I didn't ask him for money, but I wasn't doing any of that either.
But you kind of were asking for him for money because you're like, give me this $2,000 purse.
I didn't ask him to get me the bag.
No, you were basically.
I was expecting it.
Yeah, you were expecting it, which is even worse than asking and being told no.
You were like basically trying to force that on him and be like, oh, you're a jerk if you don't buy it for me.
But I didn't explicitly ask for it.
You like hinted it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not really a hint.
That's, you know.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
That's holding something over somebody's head.
That's not a hint.
You're punishing him for not buying you something you want.
So what do you think I should have said?
Not punish somebody for not wanting to buy you a $2,000 purse or get a job.
I was going to say, I feel like that's financially wise.
He wasn't stepping up enough.
I feel like.
It just depends who wants pizza.
You have someone who's got a lot of people.
Who loads it?
Pizza?
Pizza cat.
So one, two, three, four, five, six.
Six.
Wait, I was going to say, like, I feel like that probably just benefits both of them.
Because if she wants to be with someone who wants to get her a $2,000 bag, then them being broken up helps.
Because if he doesn't want to do it, then he's just not going to get it.
It's just solves the problem.
I don't think it's a punishment to break up with someone over that.
Because I feel like it just wasn't right for me.
If I didn't want to give someone a $2,000 bag because they expected it of me and they broke up with me, I'd probably be like, well, yeah.
Oh, well.
That's not my side.
That's not my person.
And I feel like, I think, I understand where you're going because it's like, what the fuck?
Like, why would you even ask that?
But, like, I don't know.
Like, I think at the same time, like, if he really liked it, he would do it.
I agree.
I don't think it's cute.
I think it's being materialistic, and I think it's a red flag.
I got a quick question.
Do you have Chanel yourself?
Like, without asking him for a couple of Chanels.
Yeah, so I make most of my money reselling clothes.
So I find, like, like designer items from thrifts, the bins, everywhere.
I go to markets as well, sell clothes.
And I get a lot of my money from there.
Yeah, so I do have a.
At least he should have an inspiration, like impression of you.
That's at least he should supposed to be provide for you.
Yeah, I agree.
But what?
So how many times would you say you hung out with him?
We hung out a lot.
I would say three, four times a week.
Did you ever go to his place?
Yeah, for like dates.
Did you clean his house?
No.
Did you do his laundry?
No.
Did you cook for him?
No.
So, okay, explain to me, if a guy's going to be, because you're saying men should do this, men should do that.
The question to the panel is, what should women do?
I feel like before marriage, I don't think a woman should like do that much compared to the man.
I mean, I feel like us just being there is enough.
But why can't a guy say that?
Okay, well, prior to marriage, I shouldn't have to do XYZ.
Oh, we go 50-50 till we're married.
I'm not going to buy you anything till we're married.
I'm not going to protect you until we're married.
So explain to me, you're saying men should do this, men should do that.
And no, women don't have an issue saying men should do X.
But the moment men say women should do this, women should do XYZ, whatever it is, you guys kind of have a problem with it.
I'm asking you, though, what should women do?
I think women should look cute, you know, be presentable for their man.
You know, I feel like us just being in their presence is enough.
Felicity, just give it to them.
Don't make them pass it.
So, okay.
So women shouldn't clean their boyfriend's place?
No.
I mean, women shouldn't do the laundry.
Women shouldn't cook.
Do you know how to cook?
Of course I do.
So why didn't you cook for him?
I mean, I did have an experience where I did cook for one of my boyfriends, but I feel like I shouldn't have to do that before marriage.
Like, it shouldn't be required.
This has to be a fucking troll.
I'm not sure I believe it.
Okay.
Okay.
So I guess to the other women on the panel, what should women do?
Eric Fey.
I feel it.
Oh, well.
Fucking dot, nothing?
I think it's nothing.
No, I think it's just a matter of like what you individually agree on like for the relationship.
She didn't even give him pussy.
Well, okay.
I think that it just depends on like what you both want.
Because there are some men that are cool being in relationships with like women who like don't do anything and like vice versa.
I know there's some women out there that are completely fine with their men like not going to work and just driving around their car all day.
So I think it's really just a matter of like, I don't think there's a should or a shouldn't.
I think it's just like whatever goes on in your relationship.
So if that's what you agree on, then that's what you agree on.
Don't you think that you should act like a wife if you're asking for wife treatment?
I think if you and your partner agree on whatever you think that that should be, then yeah.
I mean, I think it's literally just an individual thing.
Because some men are completely fine with their woman doing nothing.
Like, literally.
I agree.
And some men aren't.
Some men want their woman in the kitchen doing whatever, which is like cool.
But that's if you agree on that and that's the relationship that you consent to being in, then that's all you want.
So how is she contributing to the relationship and how does that not make her just a sugar baby?
I mean, it depends on what label they decide to put on it.
If they want to call themselves partners, then there's objective truth to that label.
I think that label is objective, objectively.
Like if it's a matter of opinion, I don't know.
Like what, like, what do you think?
I mean, yeah, like, I guess there's a like dictionary definition of a sugar baby.
But in my opinion, from like what I understand from like women that I know that have been in relationships like that, it's like that's all they are.
Like they wouldn't call each other partners because they're not, you know, like going home to each other every night.
They're not like, you know, they don't have a ring on their finger because that's not what they want for each other.
But it's like if my husband is paying for everything all the time and I don't have to do anything, I mean, that's still my husband.
It's not my sugar daddy because I'm married to him and I'm in love with him.
I'm not with him only for money.
Yeah, but that's marriage.
That's not just dating.
That's marriage.
That's not just dating.
Well, same thing with dating.
I mean, I've like, for me at least, I don't know.
I date to like be with that person long term.
Some people don't.
And again, it's all what you agree on, like individually.
Yeah, I think sugar baby, sugar daddy relationships are usually strictly lust.
Yes, I agree.
Exactly.
And we didn't have sex.
Versus like a relationship where the woman just does nothing.
Just a relationship where she does nothing.
Not really sugar baby.
What was the argument?
You guys are all eating.
We can't really talk.
Let me ask you.
Well, about that.
Like, should women do stuff?
I feel like if he's doing a lot for you, like, yeah, why not?
You know, take care of him.
Like, you know, like, a lot of men, they want to talk.
I mean, I feel like they're just like us, but just, you know, obviously they're men.
But I believe if you, if he's taking care of you, why not take care of him, you know?
Like, bring him food or, you know, give him a gift sometimes.
Like, I feel like that's, I like that because I think it's just like reciprocation and like reciprocation is good.
Like you always get like good karma, you know?
So it's like a healthier relationship.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, honestly, I, yeah, I don't think it's good to just keep taking from people.
I don't think that that's like the necessary.
But if that's what you want out of a man, now it's like we were saying, it just shows exactly like it just shows exactly what you want out of him.
And if he's not giving you that, then okay, then you can move on to the next and find one that is willing to do that for you.
Yeah, teach their own personally.
I like doing nice things for my partner.
I like making sure they're taken care of and such.
Like for clarity, I don't feel that way.
It's just more so like it's an individual thing.
I feel like, yeah, like I was saying, like you can't put a label on like someone is wrong for doing something if both like partners are okay, like agreeing and consenting.
I feel like morally, like, you know, I don't know.
I think that it's important to like reciprocate love even.
I mean, for example, like I feel like a lot of people get hurt or like cheated on in relationships and like done really dirty over and over.
And then they end up like projecting that onto other people that they end up dating.
And that's why they aren't doing that.
No.
And like that's problematic because that person didn't do anything to you.
I think like internal healing and stuff is important.
That's yeah, that's the thing that sucks because I think a lot of people don't have like, don't take the time to actually heal and like actually you know want to think about what went on in the past because I know I've done things where I'm like, damn, like I fucked up, but like I have to take the time to be like, okay, I need to like look at myself in a way instead of like going on to the next guy and trying to like bring that on to him because he doesn't deserve it, obviously.
So I just think it's really manipulative and deceptive to say that somebody needs to bring this much money to a relationship, but you're bringing absolutely nothing of value except for maybe a pretty face.
But what do you bring to the table, I guess?
Question for everyone.
Although you are in school to become an execologist.
But I guess maybe it's not that you're.
I think you just need to make sure that I make my own money too.
And I make a good amount.
Like for an 18-year-old that has no support from their parents, I make a decent amount.
If I'm able to buy myself these things, I also expect it from my partner.
That makes sense.
And since you're into fashion a lot.
Oh, yeah.
And that's like one of your love languages.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I think it's going to make it that much harder for you to find somebody who meets your standards because you make so much money.
So it's going to be so much.
I mean, I would say for an 18-year-old.
Right.
But if you just look at like statistics around like the available men, it is going to be really hard to find that guy.
Yeah.
Because why?
Not impossible.
It's not really rare to find a guy who has a lot of money, especially in that age range.
I'd say a Leo or an older man.
I don't know.
A lot of Leos like to gift a lot and then older men as well.
But you are young, so just slow and steady.
You have time.
You have plenty of time.
Just go for some old guy.
Just kidding.
Or someone that really likes you.
True.
I've had men that really like me and they just give me whatever.
Exactly.
You're right.
You might find someone your age.
Yeah.
Well, what age range do you typically go for?
Over at least two years older than me.
You're 18.
Yes.
You're only 18.
I didn't know that about you.
We're friends.
We're friends.
Yeah.
I agree it would be pretty difficult to find someone who's loaded at 20 years old.
But you never know.
I'll be rooting for you.
I'll be rooting for you.
But I asked, what do you bring to the table?
We are everyone.
I feel like we are the table.
Like they should bring everything to us.
No.
Are you being silly?
No.
Maybe bring like a little bit more, like, wanting to get to know them, but other than that.
Yeah.
But I feel like it shouldn't be expected from a woman to be the provider.
Yeah.
You know, they should provide the things to the table.
We are the table.
But then you're not like contributing to his life at all.
And he's not benefiting from being with you.
Like at all.
Also, are you talking about a previous relationship?
Yeah.
Also, at that point, couldn't he just not date and like do whatever he wants and then benefit more?
Of course.
That's why I broke up with him.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So he's doing better now.
You did him a favor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I actually hate that question.
What do you bring to the table?
I think it's strange to ask if you're like casually dating someone.
It's different if you're like, what do you bring to a serious relationship?
But to be like, what are you bringing for me?
It's kind of feminine, I think, to expect to be provided for as, I don't know.
I think you can expect certain things from a partner.
Like, what do you think you guys have to offer?
Like, certain characteristics.
I guess that's more like my question.
Like, what do you bring to the table?
Like, what positive characteristics can you exclusively give to your partner or share with?
I feel like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Like, I talk about this with my friends.
I think, like, I don't know how to word it.
There was like this one video I saw one time where this girl was like, I breathe life into you, bro.
Like, she's like, I'm not like these other bitches.
Like, my, like, my, you might not be as wet, but, like, I swear, like, I'll breathe, I'll breathe life into you, whatever.
And I was like, okay, like, period, kind of straight away from the point.
But, like, that vibe of just, I feel like, like, I'm gonna love you to like my fullest extent, like, regardless of what I've been through or like what I've experienced.
I'm always gonna try and like, I mean, do the like relationship things, but like, to that fullest extent, where like, I'm gonna communicate with you.
Like, I know that sounds silly, but like, legitimately, like, when I'm having a hard time and I'd rather shut down, I'm gonna like make that effort to talk to you and like be like, hey, just letting you know, like, I'm really, like, feeling like shutting down right now.
I'm feeling like this.
Or, you know, when I'm not feeling heard, communicating that, like, doing the things that make me uncomfortable so that we can both benefit from the relationship.
Because I think that's kind of what you were talking about.
Is like, you know, like when you're talking about like, what are you bringing to the table?
That's more for a serious partnership.
But like, legitimately, when you're talking about like being with someone long term, I feel like that is something that's important to talk about.
Like, you know, I agree.
Like, are you putting in the effort to communicate with me?
Like, when you're having a hard day, or you just go into the room and like shutting the door, or are you like sitting down and talking with me and letting me know, like, hey, work was hard.
Like, it's not about you.
I just need some space.
Like, things like that are super, super important.
And those are like the little things.
You know what I mean?
Like communication.
I agree.
Or like texting someone.
Like, that's such a little thing that I feel like men are like especially really bad about where they just like, like, I just forgot.
Or I was just busy.
Or like, dude, takes five seconds.
Hey, Siri, send the message.
Hey, just thinking of you.
Is it like an ick if a guy's a bad texter?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
And it's because it's literally like that low effort of a thing.
Cause I hate texting.
Like, that's part of why.
It's like, I've, I hate texting.
I suck at it.
I'm better at picking up the phone to call.
But yeah, like if you can't just like, hey, Siri, me, like, hey, just thinking of you like once a day.
Like, if I'm getting like two messages from you, like, it's just such a minimal effort thing.
It's like part of why.
Or if you know you're going to be like slammed that whole day, like if you have five seconds, just be like, hey, I've been absolutely slammed.
Like, I'm probably not going to be on my phone for a couple hours.
Like, just let me know.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's such a little, little thing.
I feel like if you can't do that, then it's like, come on.
Is it an ick if a guy's bad at spelling?
Like, bad at spelling?
Or if he uses too many emojis?
So it depends on like the context.
I feel like, I don't know how y'all feel, but if a guy's like, I hate you and your.
That, dude, the wrong, there, and theirs, and the wrong your and your, and the wrong two and two, those will get me.
And if the word is like, they spell it like without just one letter, like, why, why, why not spell it?
But is it like a deal breaker?
Like, you're not a deal breaker.
It's just really annoying.
Yeah.
I don't like when like someone's like, I love you with like a you or like just love.
Oh, yeah.
It has to be bio you.
I don't, because like how much longer?
It's an again, one of those like low effort things.
Like how much longer does it take to type out two letters?
Like come on.
Like I guess I never really thought too much into it.
I'm not a good texter, honestly.
See, like that's where I'll give you like the pass is like whatever.
Cause it's like, there's some people I know in my life that legitimately just like can't text for the life of them.
Like I don't know what it is.
No, like I'll see them and like that I won't see them again for like four months because they just like go in my yeah I literally I just don't like texting at all.
That's why I'm like I'm always I always tell the guys I'm like just call me call me like I don't care.
Yes.
I don't care.
Call me whatever I FaceTime me whatever but the whole texting feel I'm like I don't care if you mess up on a word I really don't care but the emojis thing sometimes they creep me out okay I'd be like dude why are you over excessively doing all these random ass emojis like right off the bat like that's kind of weird yeah if they use like Use that like eggplant emoji.
I'm like, blocked.
Oh, bye.
Sometimes, like, yeah, when men start texting you all this weird shit, I'm like, yeah, I'm good.
I don't know.
All right, so I was listening to all that bullshit behind the scenes.
I didn't really hear a compelling anything from anybody as to what women should do.
It's just an it's literally silence.
It's crazy.
It's different with everybody.
Why is there such a differential between men and women on this?
Because we're all different.
So as a man, I can say what I think men should bring and I can say what I think women should bring, but y'all can't seem to think outside of what you want.
You can probably say, oh, women want this.
Why can't you tell me what men want?
Or excuse me, I should reframe what women should do.
You guys can say what men should do, but you can't say what women should do.
No, they can say it.
Freedom of speech.
But I think we're all just different.
Hey, but we're all different.
So you have to think about it like that.
We all want different things.
So you can't just be like, okay, guys should do this, girls should do this.
It's all subjective.
So you really can't.
But you can say it.
It's freedom of speech.
You could say it's freedom of speech, but we shouldn't be generalizing it.
And I feel like sometimes guys don't communicate that.
Right, okay.
Well, I feel like sometimes guys don't communicate either.
Like, I've had literally, I've been in relationship or just dates in general where I've never heard like a guy be like, oh, yeah, I want you to do this.
Like, you don't say anything.
I think like it's like.
I agree.
Like we have to have a conversation.
Yeah.
And I think they think that we're doing the same thing.
Wait, so hold on.
If I have to pay on the first date, I need to wait for you to tell me to do it.
No, I need to wait for you to say, to tell me what you need, or is the right move as a guy to just get it.
And we don't need you to remind us to pay for the date.
We just, that's what we do.
Well, no, I think.
Or should we have a conversation?
Well, I've had a conversation with a guy.
Like, the last guy I dated, I literally was like, is this a date?
Like, because sometimes they don't even tell you, like, this is a date.
Like, they're like, oh, let's hang out.
Let's go out.
And then you end up finding out during the time when you're eating, it's like a date because they're asking you all these questions about your past and your exes.
And I'm like, bro, you could have.
If a guy's asking you to hang out, it's typically not under the purview of being friends.
You know, if they don't say it's a date, then it's not a date to me.
Yeah, preferably.
Literally, yeah, you need to say, or I'm going to assume we're just hanging out as far as you know what?
This is a perfect time for the bow video.
I know precisely what women should do.
I have very high expectations of women immediately, just like you.
I expect quite a bit.
Well, you know, it's actually the bare minimum.
What do you expect?
Really, the bare minimum, huh?
What do you expect?
I'm about to show you.
I took a video.
So I could properly put future girlfriends through a training course, the Brian Atlas training course.
I actually took a video of my ex-girlfriend.
This is like a teaser trailer for all the long list of expectations that I have of women.
Nick, can I have you go ahead and pull up the bow video?
So I took this video of my ex-girlfriend.
This was after a long podcast episode coming home from work.
Go ahead, play it.
She has to greet me with a bow.
Bow once a day.
She has to bow to show respect.
And then laundry immediately.
So, you know, my dinner has to be ready.
And she has to time it too.
It has to be, it can't be sitting there.
It has to be like done as soon as I get there.
Opens a beer for me, stirs my noodles.
I dumped her because she fucked up the tomatoes.
Who the fuck eats tomatoes like that?
Disgusting.
So I broke up with her right after.
Well, I ate the food first and the beer, but then.
So, oh, the bow.
Let's see the bow one more time.
That's the most important part.
Here's the expectation.
Step through the door.
Boom.
Deep bow.
Do you see the submissive hand positioning, too?
That's my expectation.
Damn, you're strict.
Oh, that's nothing.
And that's fine.
You might find her.
You might find her.
Yeah, you might find her.
That's not strict.
That shit takes no effort.
That's zero effort.
That's easy.
Bare minimum.
She won't find someone who will.
Someone that wants her green card will might do that.
Yeah.
There you go right there.
Oh, I have the white.
I can get the whitest white girl to do that.
I'm going to have difficulty having a black girls won't do that.
I'm open to it.
They won't do that shit.
But you know it's true.
That's true.
No, that's not true.
It's true.
She's willing to do it.
Huh?
She is willing to do it.
I am.
Hold on.
She didn't do shit for me.
You have to get the baggage.
She didn't do that.
No, no, no.
If the right asked me to, I would.
There's just a price to everything.
What do you mean?
There's a price.
Yeah, per bow, $1,000.
Okay, you're retarded.
You're ridiculous.
I mean, you're asking for a bow, right?
So just, there you go.
It's reciprocation.
She's giving you hooking hair.
It's in Korea.
They bought any older people.
It's not your husband or boyfriend.
She was 40, so she was older than me.
Just currently.
If she respects you, and they just bought everyone, like everyone.
It's a cultural thing.
Well, I expect Latinas, white women, Native Americans, all of the, you know, where it wouldn't make cultural sense to do it, still expect them to do it.
You might not find her.
Yeah.
You might not find her.
No, that's not.
There is someone out there that will see someone.
Oh, my God.
You have a podcast.
You guys have no idea.
I think a sensible woman wants to be taken care of and would take care of her in a way that her husband would approve of.
I take care of her.
No, but I take care of it.
Yeah, if she's my girlfriend, I'm taking care of everything.
She's never going to have to work another day in her life.
I have very simplistic expectations of my girl.
Okay, that's fine.
There's someone that will do that.
There's nothing wrong with that.
So, have you found someone like her so far?
What do you mean?
Like, bow.
Who are willing to do that?
Yes, I have dated women who do all that.
How much did you pay them per bow?
Nothing.
Don't pay them anything.
There are some women that are humble.
I don't think it's a little free.
No, there's some kinds that if they really like you, like, because I've had people that I've done stuff for because I really do like.
Yeah, I mean, I care about them.
Like, I bought ice cream for my ex.
Yeah, see, $5 ice cream.
No, it was $7.
Wait, are you wearing a wig?
No.
Somebody in the chat said you were waiting for her.
I have extensions in right now.
Oh, somebody in the chat just said you were wearing a wig.
Thank you.
They said, give her 1k pickles.
Take that wig off.
I guess you're not wearing a wig.
Okay.
Chair six is a wig.
No, that's me.
Wait, is that me?
No, that's her natural hair.
Are you kidding me?
My hair is really flat right now.
Yeah.
They just like to bully me.
It's okay.
I was prepared.
Ooh, we should play that Andrew Wilson clip where the other expectation, too.
That's a good one.
Nick, I don't know if you recall it.
It's in the Discord somewhere, I think.
Where is it?
Hmm.
Let me see if I can find it.
What was it about?
It was about, okay, it's in the resources media folder.
It's a resources hashtag media.
It's like what he expects of his wife, basically, especially any disputes or whatever.
It's in the Discord.
You'll be able to find it.
Great clip from Andrew Wilson.
We're going to play that.
This is another sort of expectation.
Yeah, I expect a girl to be submissive.
Okay, you guys want a leader, but y'all don't want to be followers.
No, I do.
If you're paying for everything, you'll find someone.
We'll see about that.
But a lot of women say they're submissive.
They want a man who's a leader, but we can't lead if you're not willing to follow.
If you're going to fight us on everything, if you're going to be quarrelsome, if you're going to second guess and nitpick and nag about our decisions, then yeah, you're not submissive.
You're not a follower.
You want to be a backseat leader.
Go ahead, Nick.
Pull that shit up.
Pull it up.
You got it.
Have me on one second.
But there's levels to being submissive too, though.
You just want the extremist.
No, not even extreme.
All right, go ahead, play it.
You show respect to your wife.
Yeah.
Oh, all sorts of ways.
I basically give her whatever the hell she wants.
I adore her.
But here's the thing: the reason that I do this is because if I say this is what ultimately is going to happen, that's the last word in it, and I don't even want to have the conversation.
We don't.
Now, she may really want to.
And I can tell sometimes that she really does, but I don't care because it's my decision ultimately.
So you don't care about how she feels.
Oh, no, I didn't say I didn't care how she feels.
I just don't care to have her question my authority autonomy over the marriage.
Was there an initial conversation prior to that, or is it just like we're doing this?
Don't ask me.
It depends on the context.
I'm saying more for like bigger decisions in life, not necessarily like little things.
Even larger decisions.
If ultimately, let's say I went home and I said, we're moving to Nevada in three weeks.
Get your bags packed, and I'm not going to have a, I don't want to hear a word about it.
You're doing it, and that's the way it's going.
You think that's respectful?
W.
I think that ultimately it's my choice.
Okay, and how she shows me respect.
Yeah, that's how she shows me respect.
How do you show her respect to your partner?
You can pause it.
All right.
Thoughts?
I agree with them.
Okay.
I mean, it's kind of just goes back to the point that I was saying earlier.
Like, if that's what they agree on in their relationship, like morally, do I disagree with that?
Yeah, I feel like you should care about your partner's like wants, but well, he didn't.
That's not what he said.
Well, he's like, I don't want to have a conversation about it, even if I can tell she wants to.
I'm like, okay, like, that's if that's what y'all agree on, then, like, that's you.
I don't agree with, like I said, I don't agree with it morally, but if that's like their marriage and what they've agreed on, and she's like doing that, then like, I don't know, like, that's them.
Okay, so how would you like to see something like that go?
Like, what do you mean?
A conversation.
You said, yeah, you want to have the conversation.
You want to, the guy has to check.
Well, I mean, like, I would hope you'd want to be like, hey, if we're moving to Nevada in three weeks, I'd want my partner's input, but if he doesn't care for her input and she's fine not giving it, then like.
Well, keep in mind also, here's the broader context of their relationship.
He's the primary breadwinner and they've been married for a very long time.
Yeah.
It's plausible that this sort of ask would obviously be unreasonable if you've been dating somebody for three months.
But in the context of a long-term marriage like this, I mean, I still think it just goes back to like whatever they agreed on for their marriage is like what they agreed on for their marriage.
Well, then you can just say that about any relationship.
I mean, to an extent.
I mean, like, yes, like what I'm saying is like, if that's what individually, like what works for them and that's not like impacting anybody else's lives and like, you know, like that's them.
But morally, do I disagree with his stance on it and the way that he's saying it and like making that point?
Yeah, because I get like where you're coming from in the context of like, well, he's making all of the money and they've been together for this amount of time.
So technically like, you know, wherever they move, whatever they do, like that's his.
But there are some marriages that do work like that and the wife still has a say in it.
You know what I mean?
That's just not how their marriage is working.
Yeah, that is a dynamic, but I guess what I'm trying to get to here is this goes back to what should women do.
And again, I've posed the question multiple times.
You guys are very quick to say men should do this, but you don't even know what you yourself should do as women.
Your reaction to the clip.
So for me, I never struggle for this because there are always so many guys.
They offer different things.
You've never had a boyfriend.
Yes, but they keep offering.
And I just go to the whoever offered a thing I like, and I will do whatever he asked, but I will pick the offer first.
Like, that's a very first step.
But you, okay, you have these men who are willing to do all this stuff, but what?
Then if what I do first is I make my commitment, I give them a chance, then I will hear, listen them out, hear them out, like what they want.
Okay.
What do you think?
Like, what do I bring to the table or like what do we want to do?
Sure, you could answer that.
Just your reaction to the, I guess, also, we should do the bow video too.
Well, how about this?
The most recent one, give your reaction to what he said, and then we can talk about the bow thing.
Well, I kind of agree what the first chair said.
That's what you wanted to look for, and that's what you agreed on to be committed into this relationship, then that's what happens, you know.
Like, I don't, I really don't have any opinions on that.
It's just what you agreed on if you want to be in a committed relationship.
Okay, I'm going to have the rest of the panel come in.
I need to add Zils.
I apologize for the delay on this.
I was away from the computer.
I'm very sorry for the delay.
My bad.
Yo, Brian, big fan of the show.
Much from the UK.
Quick alert, we need Gustavo back after serving his duties.
We do.
When can we expect him back?
Great question.
You know, I've been wanting to get another person in here to be another background character.
If there's any men in Santa Barbara, you got to be in Santa Barbara.
I don't want to, nobody, no commuters.
You want to be a background character?
You want to wear the military uniform?
You can DM me out, whatever.
So yeah, that would be good.
I reached out to him, you know, but I think he's dead.
No, I'm just kidding.
And I do add, you sent in two.
There's been some delay on them.
Adzil's donated $250.
Yeah, thank you, man.
Big fan of the show.
Much from the UK.
Quick alert, we need Gustavo back after serving his duties in Chile.
When can we expect him back?
Shit, you guys got to reach out to him, see if he'll come back and do the show.
But yeah, maybe we'll find somebody else to fill his spot, though.
Thank you.
By the way, because of the delay, add Zills.
If you want to send in like a 10, I'll treat it as a read, a TTS, just a $10 message.
That's just our threshold for it to come through on my laptop here.
So sorry for the delay, man.
Thank you, though.
We also have Kung Pow.
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Oh, wait, there's another one.
Pasty George snuck one in here.
Good thing I caught it.
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It's coming up in just a moment.
We're letting some of these come through.
We still need to finish up relationship status and getting people's reacts to Andrew's video and the bow.
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Some years back, my friend was visiting Indonesia and met a young woman from the rural areas.
He eventually married her and she bows to him each time he comes home from work.
Yo, George, thank you, man.
Some years back, my friend was visiting Indonesia.
Okay.
She bows to him each time he comes home from work.
There you go.
There's hope for you, Brian.
Yeah, there's hope.
You'll find someone.
Cool for you.
Bro, you guys make it out to be like the bow thing is this big ask, or doing laundry is this big.
It's really not.
It's really not.
It's simple and easy.
And I'll do that for my man.
See, there you go.
If he gives you whatever I want, exactly.
Nah, not whatever she wants.
Why, Brian?
What?
Nah, we don't believe.
We don't believe in the princess treatment here.
He has to say no sometimes.
Yeah.
That's me.
You know, why would he say no?
That's not me.
Wait, do you think it's abusive to say your girl wants you to buy some shit and you say no?
Is that like abusive?
Yes.
That's mental abuse.
If you can't afford it, that's emotional abuse.
That's how you know when to leave.
How is it emotional abuse?
It just is.
Hearing the word no, like that already like triggers me.
Well, that's financially abusive.
Imagine if a man said that.
Hearing the word no triggers me.
Yeah.
Do you know what that sounds like?
Sounds.
I know the context is different, but that's a major fucking yikes.
Okay.
Would you bow for your man?
I don't think so.
Oh, wait.
We were doing the Andrew Wilson react.
My bad.
Would you, what did you think of that?
I think I also agree with the first person.
Okay, just one thing.
Instead of saying, I agree with this person, just state your position.
Like, if you are, if you're willing to be in a committed relationship, like, you know, I would.
Okay, what about you?
I mean, of course I would bow down to my man.
And then what Andrew was saying, the guy was saying.
I mean, it depends on where it is, where the place is.
I wouldn't go to Virginia.
But I mean, if it's like Paris or something, you're married?
Yeah.
Okay.
Depends on the place.
So you get to pick, basically.
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
So you're just conditionally submissive.
So long as it suits you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the perfect thing.
You do realize in relationships, there are going to be situationships or decisions where like not every single outcome is always going to be the outcome you want.
Like that's just part of life also.
Maybe just like not in my relationship.
How would you know that?
Well if it comes to that then I'll just break up with them.
So you've been married to a guy for two years and one of his decisions you like slightly in the first place.
You wouldn't be married to somebody who within the confines of that relationship you might be inconvenienced by something it depends on how deep it is.
So if it's not like that big of a deal then I don't really care.
But if it's something that like changes where I live then yeah I'm going to be definitely want to be a stay-at-home wife like not have to work like let's say he makes a million dollars a year you don't have to work.
Yeah.
Would you be fine?
But in order for that lifestyle to continue, he's like, we need to move here.
And that location maybe is not as desirable as the location you're currently in.
But he's like, we have to move there.
Well, it's a good thing that I'll be an anesthesiologist, so I'll be able to make close enough to a million dollars.
So we don't have to rely on his money then.
And I can move wherever I want.
You said you'd be fine not working.
I mean, I'd be fine.
So you'd end the relationship.
I wouldn't end the relationship.
I'd just start working.
So he doesn't have to work.
If we did have to move somewhere that was like inconvenient, like Nevada, I'm not moving to Nevada.
Even Vegas?
I don't like Vegas.
It's too, I just don't like it.
So you're dating a guy who makes a million dollars a year, everything taken care of.
He's like, let's move to a major metropolitan city that, okay, whatever, you don't like Vegas.
You would, that's the end of the relationship.
If it's like somewhere like Southern Carolina or something, then no.
Well, I'm talking about Vegas.
Well, I don't like Vegas, so yeah.
Okay, so.
Well, I would start working and then I would provide for him.
Okay.
If it comes down to that, I will.
So you would rather work a super stressful job.
He just gets to kick it, lay back, he stops working because you don't want to live in Vegas.
Yeah.
Like, why would I want to live in Vegas?
Why would you work 10 hours a day?
I don't know.
It's not 10.
I mean, for an anesthesiologist, you get to choose your own times.
Well, you said you're going to make a million dollars.
You're going to be having to work a fuck ton to make a million dollars as an anesthesiologist.
It depends on where it is.
So, California, you can probably work three to four days.
Sometimes they have call days.
Nick, can you do anesthesiologists, Los Angeles?
What's that website that is the like salary thing?
It's not a million dollars, but on the higher end, it can range up to like 800K, 900K.
Yeah, but maybe after you've been doing it for maybe 10, 20 years, I don't think immediately out of, look, I'm not an expert in the salaries of anesthesiologists.
Right out, is it med school they go to?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Is it?
I don't know.
You can usually just.
I think the average, I mean, on the high end was, I think, 400, 500K.
I don't know about California, but just anesthesiologists overall.
And you want it in LA?
Sure.
Just Los Angeles is fine.
While we're waiting for that, we have Adzilla here.
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Appreciate your patience there with the TTS.
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Here's 10.
I agree.
We have to try and get Gustavo back.
Like Andrew Wilson once said, he's the best.
Yeah, we need to get him back.
The offer's there, but look, you know, it's really not a hard job.
You just stand in the back, you don't say anything.
You look in the camera and you have to wear a military uniform.
So anybody in Santa Barbara who wants to basically be a male model for the whatever podcast, DM us.
Jet Trooper, thank you, man.
So, yeah.
Do you have it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
Make it bigger.
Okay, median salary, just shy of $500,000.
That's how that.
So I was right.
Well, initially, you said a million.
No, I said on the higher end.
So there are people that make way more than that.
Well, it looks like, well, yeah.
Well, I just talked.
The top 90.
The top 90% is $587,000.
Yeah, but I've spoken to some people that make $900,000, $800K.
And it's a lot more than you think.
Okay, well, I've spoken to billionaires.
What?
So?
No, I'm saying anesthesiologists.
So I'm saying the higher end is still like, it's not as rare as you would think.
So I think those tattoos.
My girl, you got a B in plant biology.
Let's not assume.
Oh, actually, that's like my GPA is still pretty good.
Let's not assume that.
I would get into med school 100%.
Like with those grades, if I keep that up.
One B is not going to ruin my life.
I mean, I don't know.
It's on your permanent record.
It's on the permanent record.
It's true.
That shit's on the permanent record forever.
They're going to see that B, and they're going to be like, wait, why did she UCSB, pretty good school, but then she went down to Santa Barbara City College.
They're going to be like, they're going to be like, you know what?
Yeah, but I guess she could like be a nurse or something.
I don't know.
That's not how it works, friend.
You know how many people go study biology in college with the hopes of becoming a doctor?
And then, yeah.
And then don't become a doctor.
Med school is super competitive.
It is, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just a Debbie Downer for you tonight.
Yeah.
And especially anesthesia.
It's, yeah.
Either that or dermatology.
Very competitive.
Very competitive.
Anyways, okay, so what about you?
Your thoughts on the video?
I personally don't want to be in a relationship like that, so I don't agree.
What if it's your twin flame?
What if it's not?
No, I actually wouldn't even do it for him either.
That's crazy.
Girls won't put in the bare minimum.
No, because I see myself.
I see myself as more of like a leader than him.
Anyway, I feel like he's kind of toxic right now.
I don't want to lead Drake.
Okay.
No, I mean, mutual for us.
I'd say it would have to be mutual.
And I don't think he would want that.
That's all I'm saying.
Probably not.
What about you?
What do you think?
If I was just to stay home, chill out, relax, you better believe I'm going, what the hell?
Like, you.
I'm sorry.
I can't.
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I just feel like if they're taking care of everything, why not?
Like, I'm there.
What do you think?
I think that I would absolutely, I would obey my husband.
I would be as submissive as I could be.
Good word, obey.
It's a good word.
It's in my marriage vows.
Oh, you're married, right?
Oh, we haven't gotten to the, right, we're getting to the relationship status.
The bow video, would you bow for, I don't want to say the perfect man.
Would you bow for a really good guy?
If I really, really like them like a lot, then like, yeah.
He's a good guy.
So here's the thing is, like, I feel like that's just kind of how I am, unfortunately.
Like, I'm very much like a girlfriend.
So, like, I don't know.
If I was like really down bowed for your guy, then like, yeah, unfortunately, I feel like would you bow for a guy?
For a billionaire, yo.
For a for billionaire?
I see you go.
Not a millionaire, though?
Like, a guy who made a million a year?
No.
You wouldn't bow?
A millionaire.
A million cannot do that much in California, at least.
I mean, a million's still in California.
Very good.
Oh, it is?
I don't think so.
Oh, she doesn't.
Okay.
Would you bow for a good guy that you?
Yeah, I would bow for a guy I really liked and millionaires, billionaires, like, you know, whatever, to keep myself and them too happy.
Guy who meets you in the ice cream parking lot.
No, not unless it was like I had more feelings for him.
Gotcha.
What about you?
Would you bow for a good guy, a good man?
Probably like, yeah, a billionaire, but not like a good person.
Not like a, just like a millionaire.
Millionaire?
I mean, like, how much?
Like, 80.
One million a year.
He makes one million.
One mill a year?
One mil a year.
I know.
It's not.
Probably not.
Probably not.
No.
Oh boy.
What's the threshold?
Five mil?
I like 10?
10 mil a year.
10 mil?
You'll do a bow.
Yeah, I'd be submissive and bow.
But not for 5 mil?
No.
7 mil?
No.
It's got to be 8 figures a year for you.
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Would you bow for a good man?
I would not.
I feel like, well, it depends.
If they pay me a lot, like per bow, then we can probably charge like 10K per bow.
Then I would.
Bruh.
All right.
What about you?
If he bows to me, then I'll bow to him.
If we bow together.
Yes.
Because I already know that I'm going to have to be the main one making decisions, or at least it has to be equal in my personal relationship.
I already know this.
So, yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
So I would.
Yeah, I would.
I think, you know, I'm a love of girl.
So, like, honestly, like, you know, if you respect me, like, that's all that matters.
If you respect me, you give me, like, whatever I want, and you're just, like, kind to me, then, yeah, like, you know.
Well, okay, a man's job is not to give you whatever you want.
Why not, Brian?
Exactly.
Why not?
It's not a man's job.
Hey, look at them.
They're beautiful.
They work hard.
Someone might.
What if a woman's want is unreasonable?
It's never unreasonable.
Bro, I'm just gonna do it.
Universal.
What am I doing?
What am I doing?
You're fucking trolling.
What is unreasonable that is like for me?
I would say like a pair of shoes.
You know, I'm saying something simple.
It's not my job.
Yeah, what am I gonna ask for that's unreasonable is my thing.
Like, I'm not gonna ask for a mention.
She's been, though.
She dated a guy for one month.
She asked for $2,000.
No, they broke up.
Clearly it didn't work because he didn't buy the purse.
He was putting all of his money into sports betting.
Like, if you can do all of that, you can't buy me one bag.
Like, that's ridiculous.
Well, some people do that for entertainment, but some people make money off of that.
Okay.
And with the money he made, what did he spend it on?
I don't know if he made money.
Exactly.
Not the girl he didn't take very seriously because you were only seeing each other.
Wait, that doesn't even make sense.
The guy was spending money on X, but he could have spent it on me.
He could have.
Therefore, he should have spent it on me.
Is that the logic?
Yeah.
I mean, well, if it's for like gambling, then I would say that.
Maybe not anything.
You know, like, he can buy himself clothes or whatever.
It's his money.
Have you bought anything for yourself recently?
Yeah.
That was pricey.
What was it?
How much?
Not recently, maybe months ago.
Whenever.
I bought myself a Dior bag.
It was like pink and white.
$750.
It was Vintage.
Okay, $750.
You could have given that $750 to charity.
Why not?
To what?
To charity.
Charity?
I need a Dior bag more.
I mean, okay, wait.
You need a Dior bag more.
Charities get a lot of money from like celebrities and famous people.
They get, yeah, like hundreds of thousands of dollars and stuff.
And honestly, I'd rather give money to a homeless person than right, but you did have the money, right?
Yeah.
So why didn't you just give it to charity?
Because I, okay.
I mean, like, to a homeless person?
There are other charities besides those that do homeless age.
I don't trust, I don't know.
They already give a lot of change.
There's plenty of reputable charities.
So your logic for dumping the guy was you don't care.
If you're an Orthodox Christian, you could have given it to the church as a tithe.
Yeah.
Do you tithe?
Yeah, every time I go.
But they don't really have to.
When was the last time you went to church?
They don't have any here, so I wasn't able to go last.
Well, in Santa Barbara, they don't have any Christian.
They have multiple Orthodox churches in Santa Barbara.
Not Ethiopian.
Okay, we go specifically to those ones.
Okay, well, yeah, I guess you can't find that in Santa Barbara.
Yeah.
But there's other ways to tithe.
Okay, like in what way?
I'm sure churches accept money besides just like cash.
You can send them money.
Well, I already do that when I go to church.
Which was when?
Like a year ago.
Yeah, because I've been here for a year.
They don't have any here.
No, I'm serious.
Okay.
Go ahead.
You had a point?
Oh, so the whole point, right?
So you dumped a guy because he didn't care enough about you to spend $2,000 on a purse.
Well, why don't you care enough about charities who have, you know, starving children, cancer kids, et cetera, to donate your money that, you know.
I do, and I do donate.
Well, do you?
I do.
But just because I want to spend my money for myself, like treat myself, that doesn't mean that I don't donate to charities or homeless people.
I honestly would rather give my money to homeless people.
And I do that every time I see them.
Would you spend $2,000 to buy a boyfriend a bag?
To buy my boyfriend a bag?
Is he my girlfriend?
Why would I?
Well, that's a double standard then, isn't it?
You're being a hypocrite.
Okay.
Brian, do you like bags?
Do you like Dior, Chanel?
What if he does?
No, okay.
The average man does not want that.
I mean, I'm not dating.
I'm dating a man, not a woman.
Okay.
I didn't sign up to date a woman.
If my man asked me to buy him a bag, then it's over.
So you're just a financial abuser.
Okay.
So how many men in your life are asking for a Chanel bag?
Probably not as many as you talk to.
Are you calling me a hoe?
Maybe a little.
Oh, yeah.
That's not nice.
I mean, you did dump a guy because he didn't buy you a $2,000 purse.
Okay.
That's kind of for the street behavior.
Okay.
I don't know many men in my life.
I don't really know any men that want a $2,000 Chanel bag.
We're exploring your logic of, okay, this guy you were seeing, he was spending money on sports betting.
Yeah, gambling.
He could have spent that money the way you assessed it on something more worthwhile, which was buying you a very expensive bag.
Right.
So the logic there is because he spent this money on that and I, in my opinion, in my opinion, deemed him spending that money on that to be inappropriate or not the right thing he should be spending on, he should have spent it on me.
But then you could just apply this logic to almost anything.
Okay, what's an example then?
Go ahead.
When you bought your $750 Chanel bag or whatever, you could have spent that money on perhaps something more worthy than a bag that probably costs $10 to make.
And because you're a consumer and, oh, it's got a brand name on it.
When you can just buy some equivalent, you could buy a bag of equivalent quality for like 20 bucks and it would achieve the same thing.
It was a cute bag.
And yeah.
I donate to charity.
I feel like I should be able to do it.
His sport betting was very cute for him.
Like, he enjoys it.
Oh, really?
That's gambling.
You support gambling?
Was he good at it?
I don't gamble, but I don't see how that's relevant.
But I mean, I don't really have any qualms with gambling.
I mean, I personally don't do it, but unless you consider crypto gambling, maybe I don't know.
Let's just say he was losing more than he made.
So that was also another reason why I dumped him too.
Or it was part of the reason.
So, so he just spends his money on gambling.
Yeah, but just because he takes losses in gambling doesn't mean that that money that he chooses to spend ought to have gone to you.
I feel like it would make more sense to do that.
Sure, it's possible it would make more sense, but he doesn't have to do it.
Well, I mean, if you're dating me, then I feel like you should.
All right, I'm gonna let George have some messages here.
Thank you, George.
Pasty.
Thanks, George.
George donated $200.
Fair five.
Don't count all of your chickens before they even hatch.
One might not make it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you.
And thank you, man.
You have another one coming through, so we're going to let that come through.
My freaking contact is all bugging me, man.
Thank you.
Pasty.
George don't need $200.
Shares one, two, three, four, five, six, and seven.
You are all unworthy of a good man.
But because there are millions of simps out there, you all stand a good chance of snagging those poor fools.
RIP simps.
I love it.
He's so right.
I agree, Simps.
Oh, not the unworthy of a good man.
I'm not sure if I want a good man.
I want a great man.
Poor.
Exactly.
Define poor.
I say none of them or poor.
Like poor thing?
I'm not sure, to be honest.
Not sure.
Okay.
Here, we got a bit sidetracked here.
Here, I need to finish up the relationship status.
Campbell.
It's two hours in hard.
Relationship status.
More newly single.
Last time I was on here, I was dating someone.
We only dated about two months because I found out that I was the rebound and I didn't know that he had just broken up with her.
I guess I should have asked, but I assumed it was longer because, yeah.
So you're single?
Yeah.
I broke up with that.
How long have you been single?
For about, I think what?
The last time I was on here, so three, four months, maybe?
Longest relationship?
A year and a half with Emperor Augustus.
What about you?
So I'm single.
I've been single since April, and my longest relationship would have been four years.
That was like my first love.
Is that the one that ended in April?
No, no.
That was when I was like younger.
I was like 22, and then we lasted till.
Who broke up with who?
I actually broke up with him.
Okay, why?
He was not in a place stable, like a stable place where he didn't have like his own place.
I actually helped him out a lot.
I did a lot for him.
We kind of, but we kind of did a lot for each other.
And like, you know, we like he would help me out with like certain things like career-wise and stuff like that.
And I was young too, and I didn't really know much.
I mean, I didn't really grow up with my, with my parents.
So it was like, I kind of took care of myself.
So it was just like, you know, I found a guy that I thought was like amazing.
Like he truly like, I would say he loved.
Like we loved each other, you know, but it just, he was just a brokeie and like, yeah.
You said you've been single for five months.
How long was that relationship?
That was five months.
Yeah, only lasted five months.
Gotcha.
I realized that I was actually a brat.
So, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Let's see what happens.
Tell us about that.
Definitely.
I literally, I wanted a lot.
And I realized that he wasn't the type of guy that was able to give me a lot, but he wanted to, though.
And he was like, definitely trying.
And then after we got out of the relationship, I realized that I was definitely in the wrong.
And I fucked up because I was like, damn, like, he was treating me so nice.
Like, he gave me everything.
He always gave me flowers.
He always gave me anything I wanted.
Every time I would send him like little TikToks, videos of like something that was cute, he would just like provide that.
And I just, yeah, when we broke up, it was just like I realized that I was nagging.
I was a nagger.
I was for real.
I was like, damn, I fucked up.
But it's like, but it's honestly.
Yeah, you deserve interesting.
Yeah, I still, but I still realize that, like, even regardless of that, like, I still feel like, you know, whatever I wanted, if he wasn't able to give me, it just showed me that he wasn't able to do that for me.
And that wasn't going to make me happy.
So that wasn't going to make me happy.
So, yeah.
In the long run.
So you broke up with him?
No, this one was mutual.
This was the recent one.
It was mutual.
And you were self-aware.
Well, after the relationship that you were being Bratty.
Yeah.
So how would you be Braddy?
Can you give us like one or two examples?
He bought me a pair of shoes for my birthday.
But I actually, when we went to the store like a couple of weeks or maybe like a month before my birthday, I was like, oh, these are the pair of shoes I want.
Like the color, the type, whatever.
And when he gave me the shoes, it wasn't exactly what I asked for.
And I was just like, kind of like, in my head, I'm like, so you're not listening to me, you know?
And that was what made me think about, like, oh, are you really like listening to what I was talking about?
And you're like, no, because at least he got you the shoes.
I know.
At least he got me the shoes.
But that's what I realized after.
You know what I'm saying?
But at the same time, I still think like if someone really cares about you, they would listen to you.
Because I listened to shit he liked.
Like, I bought him something for his birthday, and I knew exactly what he liked, which, you know, he told me all the time.
So, you know.
Which was what?
I was like a cardio, like cardio.
How do you call it?
I don't even know how to say it.
It's like a specific type of fabric.
Cardigan?
No.
No, no.
Cashmere.
Cardio?
No, it's like something like that.
I don't know.
But it was a specific type of fabric, like kind of with clothing and stuff like that.
And I bought it for him, you know?
And I was just like, you know, I just, I'm the type of person, like, if you give to me, like, I'll give to you.
It's reciprocation.
Like, I feel like, yeah, I feel like it's why not?
So, yeah.
Any other ways you were a bratty?
You said you nagged him.
How did you nag him?
I was a bitch.
And you waited.
Like, I think I'm a bitch.
Like, I could be a bitch.
I could be a real bitch sometimes.
You were with him for five months, you said?
Yeah.
Here, let's roleplay it.
I'll be your no, but I knew him.
I've known him.
No, yeah.
But I've known him for a long time and we stopped being friends for a while.
So, yeah.
All right, we're going to role play it.
Okay.
Pretend I'm your ex.
Okay, be bratty.
Demonstrate the brattiness.
Okay, I would come in and be like, why is there no yellow flowers when I sent you that TikTok video of my flowers that I wanted?
Wait, actually?
Yeah, Brian.
What the fuck?
Where are my flowers at?
It was a rough day at work.
Okay, and what is that going to do with me?
We're over.
I'm dumping you.
But why?
And then I realized, I was like, wait, why would I do that?
You know, it's just like, damn.
Wait, so you walk through the door?
No.
Wait, do you guys live together?
We did for a little bit, yeah.
So you would walk through the door.
And what was the thing?
Say it again.
My yellow flowers for my TikTok videos.
God damn it.
For your TikTok videos?
No, because it was National Flower Day or whatever.
So he was supposed to get you flowers?
Yes.
It was National Girlfriend, something girlfriend.
Wait, but you talked about it or you were just expecting the flowers.
No, we talked about it.
We talked about it.
Like, I sent him a TikTok.
Every time I sent him a TikTok, he knows, like, oh, this is something.
Just send him a TikTok.
Yeah.
And he's like an ATM machine and he pumps out the money.
No, not like that.
I don't really care.
He's a vending machine.
That's, well, hey, at least I realized.
Yes, he's Amazon.
I want this.
Yeah.
Hey.
I'm not asking for too much.
I'm not asking for a Chanel bag.
God damn.
Here, give me some bags.
Give me one more.
Let me know, but look.
Put it, what you did before was perfect.
The same tone.
Just how you said it to him in actuality.
Give me another example.
Another example?
Oh, damn.
I'm trying to think.
Let's see.
Because when I would do, honestly, getting out of the relationship really made me like he was a simp.
Did you think?
Yeah, he was definitely a simp.
Give me a role play it.
I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to think what else we would get mad at him.
Being a brat about or nagging him about.
I was a brat, yeah.
You lived with him?
Did he pay the rent?
Yeah, he paid it for everything.
Paid everything?
Yeah.
How old was he?
34.
He was older.
34.
Okay.
Yeah.
He was a little bit older.
Here, give me one.
Role play it.
I'm trying to think.
I don't know.
Oh, a bag of chips.
I was like, damn, where's my bag of chips?
He got me like a different kind of bag of chips.
How you said it, though.
Where the heck?
What the?
Oh, wait, hold on.
Okay, let me.
Breathe.
Yes, go for it.
Wait, what are these?
Funyons.
No, this is.
No, this is not what I asked for.
Oh, what did you ask for?
I asked for Doritos.
Why'd you give me funyans?
They were all out.
But I told you I wanted to make this video and I needed Doritos, so why?
Guess you got to walk your ass to the fucking supermarket.
Well, I told you I wanted to go with you and you didn't let me go with you.
It only takes one person to get a bag of well, obviously, but that's why I asked you to DoorDash.
Door dash.
First of all, I can.
Second of all, I told you from the beginning I was like willing to go with you and you didn't let me go with you.
You were like, oh, no, it's fine, babe.
I'll go and I'll get you what you need.
You didn't get me exactly what I wanted.
And that's why I didn't want to get it.
All you wanted was a bag of Doritos?
Yeah, that's it.
Why is it so hard?
Why am I going to the store just for a bag of Doritos?
Why the fuck are you not listening to me when I'm asking you for a specific item?
If I give you something that you want exactly what you want, why wouldn't it be, why can't you reciprocate that?
I don't know why there shouldn't be any listening from both sides, right?
I don't know.
I kind of think that you should just hop in the car and do it yourself.
And I can.
And I told you I was going to.
So fucking get your ass on down the road then.
And I did.
Oh, I was still role playing.
Uh-oh.
Was he more of a baritone?
He's a black guy.
Definitely very sick.
This might be like cultural.
I probably shouldn't do it.
Hey, you know, you do it.
Do it.
Right.
Do it.
Do it.
Right.
Ryan, you know, you're subconscious with.
Like, you're subconscious with.
No, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm crying, no, but yeah, I just feel like if that just is a part of listening, and I feel like if you're not gonna listen to me, why is that wrong, though, if I just talked like a black guy?
Like, other people can do like, like, if a black person did like a, like, an accent from a European country or like a southern white, that would bother me, you know?
Yeah, did you see Druski's video?
Or can we make call?
I love Druski.
Yeah.
If you're a comedian, it's a completely different.
Yeah, the comedians get a pass.
That's it.
Okay, comedians get a pass, but I feel like I feel like back in the day, this wasn't a thing where it was like such an issue.
Like, people would call like your mama shit.
Like, it was, it was such like a chill vibe.
Yeah, now it's like everybody's like, everything's an issue.
I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up.
Who cares?
Can I do like a can I do like a Mexican?
Is that allowed?
Or not?
You just do a block.
I don't care.
Just do a block one.
Is anybody here Mexican?
I'm allowed to do the black one.
Mexican?
Are you Filipina?
Sorry, no, I'm white and Japanese.
White and Japanese.
Okay.
No, I'm Mexican and Dominican.
Oh, you're Mexican-Dominican.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that shit.
No, I really don't care.
And I think this nowadays, like, everybody's so sensitive and it's just like, shut up.
Like, back in the day, it was just like, bro, like, everybody just said jokes all the time.
It was always funny.
Back in the good times.
It went from like one side of the pendulum to the other, where it's almost like everyone was like a little too carefree.
And now everyone's like just super, super, like, every little thing is like has swinging to it.
A little bit.
Swing back a little bit.
A little bit.
It was very like 2017 to like 2022.
2020.
I think 2020.
2020 was crazy.
Like 2020 TikTok.
That was an era.
Okay.
Relationship status.
Married?
Married.
How long?
Been married for a month, been together for four years.
All right.
Is this your longest relationship?
I had an on-off relationship for about six years as a teenager.
Okay, got it.
All right.
Married for a month.
Cool.
All right.
That's finally, that's maybe the longest it ever took to get everybody's relationship status.
We are going to get into some of the notes from the panelists here.
So we have starting with let's go to Chloe.
Chloe, exotic car sales.
You've traveled quite a bit.
Lots of traveling.
Do I want to.
You said you've dated.
This is where I got a bit confused when you gave your intro.
You've dated genius type, elite type of guy, girlfriend, boyfriend relationship.
But then when asked, you said you haven't had a boyfriend.
That was three months, and he had a fiancé.
Like, they are long distant.
His fiancé was in the UK and he's here.
And they both like know each other doing some other relationships.
And we were like exclusive for three months.
So maybe I call that boyfriend, girlfriend.
But first, it's very short, only three months, but we were exclusive.
I see.
Yeah.
But you didn't know.
If tell me if I have this correct, you didn't know that he had a fiancé.
Yeah, I didn't know.
Okay, so that sucks.
But that was the longest period of time you dated a guy, three months?
As boyfriend, girlfriend, yes.
What about situationship?
Have you dated a guy for six months, for example?
Oh, in the comments, they call them Sims.
I don't know how I should call them.
I call them Carlos.
How about this?
I mean, you call them what?
Just guys, boys, or sponsors.
Sponsors.
You've had a sponsor.
Anybody else here, show of hands, had a sponsor?
Sugar Daddy.
Sugar Daddy, sponsor.
Sure, yeah.
Sponsor.
Kylie.
No sponsors?
You don't want a sponsor?
Do you want a sponsor?
This clothes.
Sponsor.
Sugar Debt.
Feet picks.
Feet pics.
Kylie, no feet picks.
All right.
Feet pics.
My husband says I should, but I don't.
No, don't.
It's just feet.
I was cool.
This closed sponsor.
Okay.
You said, though, you dated a 75-year-old.
Yes, I did.
For how long?
First, it was three months, then we took a break and we caught up for another like maybe five or six months.
So like eight months total.
Okay.
Was this in China?
No, here.
Korea?
Here, okay.
You said all these men, though, you've had quite a few sponsorships, sponsors.
They all spent five to six figures on you.
Yes, they did.
So how many total sponsors would you say you've had?
10, 20, 30?
In total?
Like in two years?
About your whole life, I guess.
I started here.
Okay, so yeah, then two years.
About 300,000.
No, but how many total in cash?
Oh, man.
How many different sponsors?
First, I kept them tracking.
Like, I have a note, have the names, and when the number over 50, I just stopped tracking because it's getting a lot.
Somewhere between probably 70, I'd say under 100.
Different men who have contributed arrangements.
Sponsors.
Sugar daddies.
Sugar daddies.
And all of them spent between five to six figures on you?
Some at four digit points, but those people I don't see them regularly.
Like if anyone I see them over a month or two months, it will be definitely over five figures.
Okay.
And then you also wrote that one guy gave you two Porsche sports cars?
He didn't give me that many cars, but with his sponsorship, what should I say?
And I managed to get it myself.
So he gave you money and you bought the cars.
He didn't know the money go directly to the car.
Right, but he gave you money and then you ended up spending it on the car.
I see, okay.
Yeah, that's how much he did.
And then you have a brand new one.
So you said that the number, the total number that men spent on you in two years is $300,000.
It's all the same guy.
Yeah, all the men total.
Is that correct?
Almost, yeah.
$300,000 total.
In two years.
Okay.
And you said you dated over triple-digit guys?
So when you say triple-digit, you mean over 100 guys.
About 100.
Okay.
Lost tracking.
Lost track.
How do you meet these guys?
From Seeking.
First time I learned about this site, I was only 18 years old.
And this site wasn't even open at mainline China, but somehow they have ads and I saw those ads.
I see.
And when I got here, I made an account, made a profile.
Then the opportunities were just there.
And you said you only did this in the United States.
Like you haven't done any of this in China or elsewhere?
Well, I'm only 25 years old and I spent like 18 years in mainline China.
I went to Korea for school and I didn't do that much in Korea.
I'd say it very depends because not everywhere people are will be able to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'd say this was all in the United States.
Yes.
And would it be people because you said you live in like San Francisco area?
San Jose, yeah.
Oh, like the Bay area.
Yeah.
Would it be people in that area or would you get guys in different states, maybe even different countries contacting you?
Well, the people in that area are the richest.
Oh, yeah, almost.
The tech bros and all that shit.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's mostly in the Bay area.
For sure, yeah.
Like, is Silicon Valley?
Is that near the Bay?
That's right.
Is it like an hour away or something?
I live in the Silicon Valley.
That's in Silicon Valley.
You live in Silicon Valley.
Yeah, they call San Jose, Santa Clara, Mountain View, Sunnyville, all those places as Silicon Valley because we all live in a valley.
I see.
Okay.
Can we pull up a map of San Francisco?
It's like, all right, we got Santa Barbara, then there's like Santa Cruz, and then San Francisco.
I keep the whole time because you were, sorry, low-key what?
I was keeping a low-key the whole time because they don't know about each other when I hang out with some guy and they will assume they are the only one I'm seeing.
Do they give you cash?
Like how they pay you?
Checks, yes.
Checks?
Transfers, checks.
Cash ever?
What do you mean cash?
Like paper cash?
Yeah, like dollar bill.
Yeah, sometimes.
Okay.
Would you also, in addition to just, so they would just give you money, right?
In addition to that, would they also get you gifts?
Yeah, sometimes.
Like they want.
Here is a purse.
Here's, I don't know, what do what do guys buy women that are simps?
What do they get?
What do they get?
Purse.
Shoes.
Wallets.
Shoes.
Jewelry.
Is there anything, any jewelry on you that a guy paid for?
No.
Okay.
Because I don't want them to know I spent money on jewelry because no matter how much they gave me, they don't like the ideas.
Girls spending their own money or whoever girl spends money on jewelry, on purse.
And I know exactly what they think.
I play along them.
I don't play against them.
That's how I get it.
So I can buy jewelers myself.
Like as long as I got a jewelry, no matter they gifted me what I got it myself, the result is good.
So how many, you said in total, anywhere from over a thousand to over six figures, over a hundred men, about a hundred men have been your sugar daddy, spent money on you, whatever.
How many have spent over five figures?
Five figure, we're talking about like 10,000, right?
10,000 and up, yeah.
Maybe 10 to 15.
How many have spent six figures or more?
Six figure, we're talking or more.
No one.
Oh, no one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
The most, that guy, he gave me about maybe 80 or 85K, the 75.
We'll skip next.
The guy who paid you the most, you said 80,000.
It's the oldest one.
The 75-year-old.
And how long did you see him for?
I was a little bit worried before getting here.
Oh, you still see him?
Yes.
When's the last time?
Okay, so he's paid you multiple times.
Like one day, here's a thousand.
Here's 10,000.
Here's whatever.
When's the last time he sent you money?
Last month?
Is it a white guy?
Yes.
Fucking these white guys, man.
Fucking up.
Fucking shit up.
And are you here on a like a work visa?
Or do you what do you know?
I have my status.
Like I can legally work and live here.
Is it like a visa though?
No, it's like a valid status.
What's that called?
I don't know.
Citizenship?
How would she?
Citizenship.
Green card?
Like on the way to getting the green card.
Because I don't have to get a green car to stay, but I found a way to get...
Do your parents know what you do for work?
My mom knows.
Well, not the car sales, but the arrangement.
My mom knows about everything.
Are your parents still together?
Yes, they are.
And they live in China?
Yes.
They were married at 19 or 20 years old.
They met at 19 years old.
They were each other's first love.
Okay.
Then they've been married the whole time, like about 30 years.
Did you hook up with the 75-year-old?
What do you mean, hook up?
Sex.
Did you have sex?
Yes, it's very brief for him because giving all the conditions.
Yes, we do.
it's brief like um i'd say time is short maybe 30 seconds or one minute No, the sex.
It's very long.
It doesn't last long.
It's not that frequent.
He doesn't have that much stronger.
He doesn't have libido.
Yeah, I get it.
How many times have you had sex?
He for sure doesn't want to hear this.
It's okay.
How many times have you guys hooked up?
Maybe 10 times?
20 times?
Maybe like 15 to 20.
15 to 20.
Okay.
And then you said you've done this with about 100 other men.
Do you also sleep with them too?
Yes, most often.
Most often.
Not all the time, but...
Yeah, not all the time.
Okay, good to know.
So how many of the about 100 have you had sex with?
More than half.
So 50, 60?
Well, first is not exactly 100.
Maybe somewhere at 70?
Okay, sure.
70 to 100.
I love it.
So maybe you've slept with 40 of these guys?
I say at least 50.
At least 50 of them.
Okay.
I see.
Okay, and do you...
I'm surprised too.
Imagine that.
I'm not surprised.
In two years.
In two years?
I was a virgin before I...
Wait, you were a virgin?
Yes.
You lost your money as a sugar baby?
Wait, your virginity?
He's lost your money.
Wait, so, wait, question.
I guess here's the clarifying question.
The guy you lost your virginity to, was it a guy you met on Seeking?
No, he's not.
Was it for love?
He's that boyfriend, girlfriend, kind of say she's.
The guy who had the fiancée, who was cheating.
Yes.
But did he spend money on you too?
Yeah, he did.
And that guy was younger than me.
Oh.
Cougar over here.
Like, I was 20.
He's a milk.
You're 23?
I am 25 right now.
You're 25.
Yes, I was like 22 and a half.
And he was 22.
He's like nine months younger than me, but he for sure doesn't want to hear this too.
But he's an engineer.
At Google?
Yeah.
Oh.
Big tech.
Big Google.
Big tech.
Like AI?
Something like Google, but not Google.
He's a tech bro in Silicon Valley.
No, Silicon Valley was in Austin.
Where?
Austin, Texas.
Oh, okay.
That's true.
I met him the first week I got in the state.
First week you moved here?
Yeah.
By the way, did you learn English while you were here or had you already been learning English?
I've been learning English.
I had my English teacher when I was two years old.
I see, okay.
And by the way, are your parents, are they wealthy?
I don't know how wealthy is wealthy.
Like for Chinese standards?
I wouldn't say so.
It's not that much.
Okay, what city did you live in in China?
It's a small town.
Okay, so I probably wouldn't have.
Not like Shanghai or Beijing or anything like this.
No.
Okay.
So you lost your virginity to not one of the men you.
Yeah.
But shortly after you lost your virginity, very soon after.
Like even when I was seeing him and I started seeking.
Oh, while you were dating him, you were doing this.
Oh, so you were cheating on him too?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Well, I guess that's fair then.
It balances out in the universe or some shit.
Okay.
Oh, we have a message here.
You know what, Pasty?
I'm going to have to wait a little bit to let this come through, but I'll have it come through.
I do see it.
So, okay.
Have you, besides the guy who had a fiancé, tech bro, whatever, have you dated anybody for genuine romantic love or anything like that?
I wanted to.
They don't want to give commitment.
They just want what?
They said, oh, I want to chill.
We are just hanging out.
I'm not ready to get in a relationship.
And he even said something like, whoever other people are in relationship because they don't respect relationship that much.
Like, he's giving me bullshit excuses.
And you did not meet this guy on Seeking.
We met at work.
Met at work.
Okay.
But during that time you were seeing that guy, were you also doing the seeking stuff?
Do I have to say this?
You have to say that.
very recent like right now it's still oh you're still talking to the guy You're talking to this guy.
Yes, I am.
Oh, yeah, but so you're doing seeking stuff also.
Seeking, I've been stopped for about a month.
Why?
I wanted to take a break.
I think it's becoming overwhelmed.
Your soul?
No, it's become overwhelmed.
Why?
Overwhelmed.
Because, and also I can't afford to take a break to maintain my like to maintain my life.
What's your life?
My rent.
Rent.
Car payment.
Okay, yep.
Private expenses.
That's a lot.
Have you ever been flown somewhere by a guy?
Like Dubai or I don't know?
Well, we had a trip together, not someone who blew me out, yeah.
Okay, I see.
But you said you have $300,000 in savings in just two years from all the money these men spent on you.
Not from guys.
I spent some of them and I say half of my savings from my dad.
Okay.
But in total, in terms of what the men spent on you, you said $300,000?
About, yeah.
And I spent about half of them.
You spent it, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
You said that the show seems legit and righteous.
You're talking about the whatever podcast.
You said you have your own ideas, maybe not aligned with majority opinion.
What do you mean by that?
Which is the very first topics you brought up.
What should the women bring to the table?
And in my opinion, what I brought, what I'm bringing to the table is giving them a chance.
Giving them a chance?
Yeah, to show if they like me or how they want to.
Because, like I said, there are always guys.
And the only thing, what things can separate them?
What things can different them?
You know what?
I just want to say this.
Not about anything you said, really.
I think we're at a point in history, gentlemen, where men should do as little as possible.
I know that sounds counterintuitive.
These women, they're getting fucking paid money and shit.
Got freaking Orthodox Christian girl over here asking for fucking $2,000 bags.
I'm telling you, guys, look, I'm not trying to be a doomer here, fucking black pill.
I think it's time us men, we got to get into, and I think one of you had a note on this, we got to get into our princess era as men.
We can't be doing all this shit for these women, bro.
We got to just kick back.
See, I like what Kylie's doing.
Well, I don't like what she's doing, but I like what.
Okay, that's not making sense.
She's just, she's kind of going with the flow.
Ice cream parking lot.
Let's get in my car.
Boom.
She's not asking for a lot, you know.
Wait, hold on.
What am I fucking saying here?
Wait, she's young.
I'm just saying.
She's young.
I'm 18.
She's wise beyond her years.
Ears?
Do you have big ears?
I don't know.
She's wise beyond her years.
But not really.
But she is.
I'm just saying, why?
Why us men got to do all this shit when we got gems?
We have gems like Kylie here.
They don't want a bag.
They don't want a bag.
They just want some ice cream.
No, she didn't even.
Wait, you didn't even get the ice cream, right, Kylie?
I did for myself.
You got afterwards.
It was like a recipe card.
Literally, they come in you or whatever.
They do whatever the fuck you want to do.
And then they're like, all right, bye, peace.
Everybody should want some type of offering.
Unless you both mutually agree beforehand that it's both just sex and you both agree on that beforehand, we should all want offerings because we are temples.
But we got, oh no, man.
But so are you guys.
So that's why we have to reciprocate it.
At least what I can respect.
What I can respect about Kylie here.
God.
Don't totally agree with everything, but you know, I can at least respect it.
You're not going to respect it.
That's a fair deal.
At least I'm going to respect, but you're not respecting it.
These dudes spending thousands of dollars on fucking Miss Ethiopia over here.
Not even getting pussy.
Not even getting pussy.
She's on seeking.
She's basically, no offense, you're basically a prostitute.
And you're looking for love in all the wrong places, like the song.
I'm young too.
I'm at a stage of learning.
I can stop doing it at any time point.
Once I can, you know, I feel comfortable standing on my own feet.
Once I can breathe, not, you know, struggle to leave, to live a life.
It is harder than you are.
I'll just say this.
I'm just going to say this.
As a guy, the goal, this might sound terrible.
Goal should be that the woman genuinely has desire for you, genuinely has desire for you, and isn't going to make you jump through all these hoops for you to sleep with them.
Otherwise, she's kind of a prostitute.
But guys are not being that genuine, like sincere at the same time.
They have their needs.
Like women and a man, they are just a wire differently.
Man, they have needs.
Well, yeah, but you gotta establish yourself as a man to the point where you shouldn't have to pay for pussy.
I don't know.
I mean, your situation's kind of kind of unique.
Well, that's just very ideal because there are different girls out there and different guys, they have their own type.
They want to date this girl.
They want to just give all the troubles.
Damn.
I mean, the longer I take, the more they will spend before getting something.
The longer you take.
The longer I take to get to know them or to date them, the more they will spend.
No?
Right.
I don't know.
Look.
I'm being generous.
I'm playing a fair game, I think.
Because those guys, I'm going to say they are dogs.
You meet them.
Look, the guys who sign up for that website seeking, they know what the deal is.
So you're not bamboozling these guys.
They know what's going on on that side.
The girls make themselves available and the men pay them money.
But if we're just talking about normal dating dynamics, shit.
You're going to pay.
I don't know.
You can't pay for pussy.
Some people say you pay one way or the other.
I think the man's goal.
You might hate this.
The man needs to spend as little as possible to get the pussy.
Otherwise, the woman won't respect him.
Why would they want to?
Paying for the pussy.
She ain't going to respect you.
Now, if she's a prostitute, well, you shouldn't see prostitutes.
But she's not going to respect you, period.
They don't need no pussy then.
Literally.
They don't need the pussy?
They don't.
If they don't spend money?
If they don't spend money?
They don't.
You guys are just calling yourselves prostitutes.
No.
It's not even my guys.
I've dated guys that literally, you give them that, and then they're like, all right, I got it.
I'm moving on to the next.
Because they get used to it, and there's guys like that out there.
And you can't tell me that.
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
I personally believe if I'm sleeping with a girl, like it's not worth my time.
Hold on.
It's not worth my time to sleep with a girl once and never talk to her again.
Like, if I'm sleeping with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
I'm going to pursue that for something more, right?
And look, sometimes.
You are, you're one-on-one.
But I'm telling you, there's a lot of guys right now that I'm like.
That's why.
That's why we don't give away sex just for money.
But so there's the thing is, as opposed to what?
A McDonald's meal?
Like, I don't know.
Like, that's not me saying I go out and do that, but legitimately, I've heard that argument made, and I can't really, like, I can't argue against it.
Because why is it worse to sleep with someone for absolutely nothing versus someone like doing it for money?
Like, I feel like that's low-key.
Like, at least I'm getting something out of it.
It would be the social stigma of the fact that you're basically engaging in prostitution.
No.
Now, there's literally not bringing it no matter what, though, whether or not you're sleeping with people.
So, sure, I would agree that just like engaging in rampant promiscuous sex, like less than ideal.
Well, in general, yeah.
I mean, that's just like.
But, like, look, here, I guess here's how I'm viewing it.
From the male perspective, like, getting you could argue from the female perspective, well, if you're just going to fuck a bunch of guys anyways, okay, just make money doing it.
Yeah.
But, No, maybe not.
Or maybe.
But like, why not though?
Well, maybe here's the new thing.
Women give more sexually than men every time.
Literally.
No, not true.
That is true, man.
Because men don't even put no effort in.
No, wait, wait, wait.
Most of the time, we give them spiritual knowledge and like help them spiritually that they don't have.
Wait, but they're so rare because if we fucked, you're going to tell me, oh, but in a past life, you were fucking up.
I will remember.
George Washington.
I will give you downloads.
I'll give you downloads.
You'll start making more money if you do it the right way.
Like all tips is blessings.
I mean, it happened to my ex.
That's why I actually, I wish I would have talked about this.
My ex, my last ex.
All right.
Just being with him.
Yeah, because everybody else get to talk about this but me.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Speak.
So I was able to help him get a better job, more days at work, just by having sex with him and spiritually helping him do all this.
And like intentionally doing it and is literally working.
And he even said, I'm making more money with you than anybody else I've been with.
And he admitted it.
And he didn't, but this is why I broke up with him.
It's the opposite.
No.
There's no pussy.
No.
No pussy makes you more money.
Yes.
It's the opposite.
No.
I'm telling you.
That's not true.
If it's a divine woman.
If it's a divine women, I tell someone that's a lot of people.
Every guy.
Yeah.
Every guy that I've ever been with.
Every guy, yes, literally.
Actually, I can't.
Wait, you don't have a soul?
You're not a spiritual being at all.
You're just physical.
Hold on, Bailey.
Exactly.
Hold on, Bailey.
You like to pretend, but you're, no.
You have a soul.
I think it's actually different.
I think if a guy has a dry spell, he's going to work.
He's going to work harder.
Physically.
And he doesn't have to, because the women can help him spiritually, so he doesn't have to work as much.
By women.
Men are motivated by women.
Yeah, but some people are.
So if you're just getting a bunch of pussy from all over the place and your life's in shambles or whatever, there's not really a huge motivation there to either get in good shape or get your money right or whatever.
But if you're in a pussy dry spell, that can be motivating.
That can be motivating.
There's never been a situation where I'm like getting some pussy and I'm like, I need to work harder now.
Yeah, exactly.
That's never the case.
Yeah.
Never the case.
But I've helped them because they wanted to.
Yeah, but that's outside of sex.
No, it has to do with it too.
It has to do.
Well, it has to do with it.
So are you saying that men only want pussy?
No.
No, I'm not saying that.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you kind of are saying that because you're saying like that's what's going to motivate or no.
I was going to say that's not a matter of time.
No, okay, so you're unmotivated.
Men are not disciplined and that's why they all they crave is pussy and the undisciplined ones do.
Just no, that's not what I'm saying at all.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
Okay, what are you saying, Brian?
I'm just saying I'm just saying we got some girls at the table fucking wanting a guy to spend all this money and shit.
Yeah, if I'm, if I'm getting double, if I'm helping him make double and triple than what he's making before we met and he admits it, then of course you have never helped a guy.
Yes, because he's Emperor Augustus.
And Emperor Augustus listen to this word, Emperor Augustus because I loved him and his real love, I.
I paid $4,000 for a rent and he didn't help me.
And I bought groceries and I paid for gas.
I'm never doing that ever again, but I'm just saying, like, I'm the type of person where they weren't doing enough for me.
That's why I broke up with all of them because they weren't doing enough.
Girls.
Yeah, nowadays, you know me.
A lot of them.
But who knows?
But I know.
I do things that I do.
We don't.
Hold on, one at a time.
Stop, stop, stop.
One at a time.
Girls don't build.
They move in.
So the guy's already established.
The guy already has money.
You mark that guy as, oh, okay, he's whatever.
He's good.
Then you deal with him.
Girls don't build.
This is such a good thing.
I do.
I just said I did.
And he admitted it.
But for me, I'm just so magical and like too beautiful for most of them.
And that's why it doesn't really work.
Magical.
Yeah, magical, too beautiful, too loving.
And they don't reciprocate it enough.
That's why I've had to break up with every guy.
Is that what happened with Drake?
No, I never dated him because he was scared of me.
Oh, I'm sorry.
A little bit.
Because he wanted to talk to me.
He does love me, but he.
Yeah.
Yeah, you guys are great.
What do you think about this, Kylie?
You guys are crazy.
And it's actually really insensitive.
And we should probably start talking shit to you guys more when you guys lack it.
But they should all start talking shit to you guys more because it's really rude to people.
I do have the twin flame relationships because it's really hard.
It's harder than a normal soulmate relationship.
Are you feeling a bit upset about that?
Yeah, because you guys are insensitive.
And it's like, it's really rude.
Yes.
You are.
You're insensitive.
And I should bully you more for it.
And we all should, for each other, because you guys are lacking humanity.
Because I don't believe in the.
Yeah, but you're lacking humanity.
It's fucked up.
Whether you believe it or not, you don't have to be rude about it.
You don't have to all be rude about it like you do most of the time.
Every time I'm on the show.
Lack of humanity.
Every time I'm on the show.
So you're gaslighting.
You're gaslighting about your spiritual awakenings and how you fucking dated Abraham Lincoln or some bullshit.
I don't buy it.
There's no proof.
Well, it's real.
It's fucking bogus.
No.
Blah, blah, blah.
Okay, well, the universe knows.
You don't have to know.
The universe knows.
The universe knows.
So you don't have to.
Okay, prove it.
How do you prove it?
You dated fucking Abraham Lincoln.
The universe knows.
I don't have to prove anything and I'm not going to.
Did you go to like a medium or a psychic?
No, I am a medium.
I am a psychic.
I've been able to talk to the dead since I was born.
Like the sixth sons.
I actually used to see them, but I told them not to come to me like that.
You need a fucking Ouija board here right now.
You want to fucking know what you're doing.
I love not.
There's like science behind that.
Like children like seeing like spirits.
Well, we all have souls.
So, I mean, there's some that could just tap into those dimensions where they can connect.
We all have souls.
I mean, you can't tell me, like, arguably, no, like, genuinely, arguably, like, we're all like energy.
We're all atoms.
We're all made of the same stuff.
No, I mean that's legitimately.
This is moving at, like, science says, like, straight up that this is moving.
I'm so sorry.
That this is moving at like a different rate of energy and motion than we are, which is why that's inanimate and we're adamant.
Like, science straight up.
I'm also kind of an alien.
So it's easier for me to do it.
It's easier for me to do it.
You're an alien?
Yeah.
Like, you're a lizard person.
Like, I mean, a little bit, I guess you could say, but really, I just came from, my first life that I ever remember, I was not born on Earth.
Some people were, some people weren't.
So technically, I am an alien, but like, I am here as a human, and I did lose all my memory.
Now I'm like gaining it back.
But what planet?
That's why it's easier for me to do this than other people that weren't from other.
Have you got anybody seen that shit on Netflix?
PAX, PAX X?
What?
What was it called?
That foot with fucking Kevin Spacey from like 2001?
PAX?
What was it?
K-PAX.
I think I never heard of that.
Are you from K-PAX?
No, I'm from.
You don't want to know.
I mean, it's not valid, but I just don't want to say.
Oh, you know where I'm going?
I've lived in a bunch of places.
Yeah, where?
And all over, actually.
I just don't know where I was exactly first, but I'm assuming.
Which planet?
It was the sun, and there's a dimension on the sun that I was on first.
I believe.
But I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
I mean, we're just, I feel it.
Millions of degrees or hundreds of thousands of people.
Yeah, but on in our dimension, yeah, but there's other dimensions spiritually that we can't really see in this one.
That's, I mean, you can if you're me, but some people can, some people can't.
And you can even.
Yo, what kind of drugs are you on, lady?
No, it's just reality.
Reality is really expensive.
It's not reality.
I mean, there's tons, there's like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of movies about this, and they can't just pull it out of nothing.
Every movie is based on the movie.
Every movie is based on fiction.
No, I mean, fiction, fiction.
Every work of art has to exist because it has some basis in reality.
Not that all of it is 100% true, but in order for it to exist, it has to have.
Yes.
Everything you see is based off of reality.
And most of the time, it's my reality, so that's just that sucks.
But I mean, it's fun too.
It sucks when they paint me out as someone I'm not.
So what about The Matrix?
Is that like the movie?
Yeah.
The Matrix.
Yes.
So we're currently all being used as a really inefficient means of energy for like no.
The reason why I don't like the movie the most is because it only focuses on the negative side and that's not realistic.
That's why, yeah, it's really both.
Like you have the negative, positive, like angels, demons all helping us or taking our energy.
Yes.
And it's both.
It's not just one side, but the Matrix movie, since I think he took the red pill, that's why you only see the bad.
But if you would take the blue, then you would only see like the good.
And if you take both, then you would be in reality.
Actual reality.
Reality, reality.
All of reality.
I'm Bugs Bunny, by the way.
Finally, we had to actually talk about this.
I've been on here so many times and we never talked about this.
Wait, so what happens if you take the picture?
Mary, can you check her purse for her meds?
You would just take her meds.
If you take the blue pill, you would just see things more in a good way.
You want to see as much bad as there is.
And same with the red pill.
You want to see as much good as there actually is happening in reality.
It's almost like an illusion.
Like either or is an illusion.
If you take both, it's not an illusion, though.
See a therapist.
George donated $200.
Why can't women keep their legs closed?
Is it really the difficult?
Women are supposed to be the primary gatekeepers to their temple.
What the hell happened?
Guys are doing the same thing.
You're also temples.
More guys have higher body counts than women nowadays.
Let's just be honest.
That's true.
And it's harder for them.
So we should have more because it's harder for guys to get it.
But most of the time, when I meet one, they have more than me.
No, I think it just depends on the style.
George donated $200.
Thank you, man.
Care 2, you saying that you can stop anytime you want is the same thing that alcoholics and drug addicts say.
You want to respond to that?
That's you.
Yeah, I think this George is.
I don't know.
I don't think he's living his good life because there's nothing else better for him to do instead of just commenting, girls.
And I never make anyone.
I never made anyone do anything.
Pasty, George donated $200.
Felicity's black baby.
I always suspected she went black LMFAO.
She's a random bowl.
Don't think about it too hard.
Yo, Pacy, thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it, sir.
All right, I'm going to read a few of these.
Going around the table, does a bowl of cereals and milk qualify as a dish of soup?
Brian, thank you for everything you do for men all around the world.
Bowl of cereal?
So is a bowl of cereal with milk?
Is that soup?
How is soup defined?
Is it just yes or no?
Is it soup?
No.
Breakfast soup.
Go, go, go, go.
Oh, no, it took me a second to really think about it.
I'm like, it's wet.
Felicity, grab the paper towel there.
Okay.
What about this?
Following up on that.
Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Yes.
Yes.
Is a hot dog a sandwich?
Yes.
Yeah, I guess.
Is that how you really feel, Kylie?
I really don't know.
She doesn't know, okay?
Hot dog is a sandwich.
It is.
Yes, but we don't say that it is.
Yeah, it is.
Oh, yeah.
You guys are all fucking wrong.
I have a very heated.
A hot dog is its own thing.
I have a lot of heated pictures of it.
It's like bread and stuff.
That is not a sandwich.
And you can put mayo and mustard in it.
So it's like, bro, it's the same thing.
The only thing that makes it a sandwich is something between two pieces of bread.
It's literally like.
It's close to being spam, though, isn't it?
Anyway, Christopher, a real woman wouldn't mind spending a whole day in the woods looking for the coolest stick for their boyfriend husband, scratch his back whenever he wanted, and pick at his scabs when he gets bruised from Christopher.
Say caveman?
That's what you want.
You want a princess treatment.
Yeah, that's not what I'm doing.
That's what I'm doing.
I need to go find my husband cool sticks.
I mean, he tells me that he's like, sorry, I don't like bugs.
Like, I wouldn't do that.
That sounds like a little corrosive, I guess.
I'm just saying, I guess going back to my point about men need to be in their princess prince treatment era, is at no other point in human history, don't be offended, have women brought less to the table and been less deserving of all the traditional treatment y'all want.
So I'm just saying, if you guys aren't going to hold up your end of the bargain, men shouldn't be doing all this shit.
And we got to be in our sassy man era.
Oh, yeah.
But men should also do it first.
Why do you have to do the crickets?
I was already men should do it first.
And then if the woman's not reciprocating what you want as a man, then that's when you walk away.
But he should do it first, I think.
In a traditional more relationship or where he has more masculine energy than her, even.
Also, I wanted to address something you said.
Okay.
Or I don't know if it was Bailey, maybe.
I don't know.
Y'all were saying how men get more out of sex.
No, I said a little bit.
False, erroneous.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Erroneous.
Totally erroneous.
Erroneous.
At least for me.
I have way more out of sex than men do.
You know, most women don't come, and they actually admitted this, and most women don't know how to squirt.
Most women don't come.
So men go down.
And this is just this.
Most of the time they don't want to go down.
Oh, well, I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that.
But I don't know.
Y'all can come like 10 times in a row.
We can only really do that once.
But do most guys do that?
Not all women, just to be clear.
They taught other women how to do it.
That's the same with men.
Not all men want to do that too.
What I'm saying is not all women can come like 10 times or whatever.
Why are you shaking your head, Nick?
You're a virgin, Nick.
What the fuck?
Oh.
But there are some women that come within 30 seconds and then they come like 10 times in a row.
But 99, and I've encountered that a fair amount.
Okay.
Not gradually.
I know why you have sexual dysfunction.
I appreciate that.
I know you're dysfunctional.
Oh, why?
It could be the guy's fault.
Most of the time it is, but not every time.
But 99% of guys blast.
I need, there's the refractory period.
You can't keep going.
Women, you can come like multiple times.
Your legs are fucking quivering and shaking and shit.
You're fucking twitching.
Y'all touching yourself.
Okay, you deserve a little bit more than the other one.
Still, they want sex more than women want sex.
Literally.
Yeah, men are more motivated for sex, but y'all definitely, like, if we're talking about who can enjoy sex more, by far, women.
Who has the capacity to?
Like, you guys.
I mean, women, but who does?
How many beds?
A lot.
Guys can only have like one to two.
Like.
It's different, though.
Like, it's harder to make y'all come sometimes.
Some of y'all just become in fucking 10 seconds.
It's crazy how that happens.
Oh, no.
Please.
The love is.
But it's just different.
Like also for a guy to be good in bed, that's way harder.
It's very, it's not hard for a woman to be good in bed.
Honestly, most guys are just happy to get some pussy, but like, and here's, here's why.
As a woman, like you could just, we could just put you in a position and you don't have to move.
You don't have to do anything.
You can starfish, whatever.
We don't want you to do that.
How does it feel like?
Hold on, hold on.
But you can just, I don't know.
A guy could put you in doggy style and you just stay there.
You don't do anything.
You're not fucking thrown at that.
Exactly.
And that's what most guys do, but they don't care about the woman coming.
That's a problem.
Wait, lady.
Calm down, Bailey.
Calm your tits.
Calm down.
We can put you in doggy style and we can, you don't have to move at all.
You don't have to do anything.
You should, but you don't have to.
And we can make ourselves come just by you being there.
But the reverse typically isn't always true.
If a guy was just had a stiffy and you put him in whatever position you want him to be in, but he can't move, whether it's doggy or you're on top, whatever it is.
Most women couldn't make themselves come just from that.
I could.
Oh, you could.
No, I'm saying most women couldn't.
Oh.
I feel like they could.
I genuinely feel like that.
It depends on the woman.
I feel like men mess up my nut more than I do.
I'm not going to lie.
The men mess up your nut.
Dude, yeah.
Like, what about like, don't stop means stop doing what you're doing?
I don't understand.
Well, see, the way the way men fuck it up, the woman indicates that whatever's happening.
The woman will indicate, okay, whatever the guy's doing is good, and then he'll like switch it up.
He'll speed it up or fuck the whole thing up.
You just got to stay the course.
You got to stay the fucking course.
Otherwise, why are you telling me that?
Got to keep rid of them.
But the point, I guess the point I was trying to make with the previous thing is, is it's just a woman can make herself come like in that scenario I described, but it's way more common for the guy to be able to reach climax than the reverse.
So it's just harder to be good in bed as a man.
And also, like, it's hard to be bad in bed if you're a woman.
Yeah.
It's hard.
Like, you gotta fuck up majorly.
Like, pussy is like pizza.
Like, it's hard.
Like, bad pizza, it's still, it's, it's pizza.
It's still good.
You know, it's like still use it.
That's what you mean.
They can still use that shit.
But like, dick, that's, I don't know.
That's like a steak.
You can fuck a steak.
Oh my, if it's too overcooked.
You can fuck up a steak.
If it's too small.
You're right.
If it's a small portion of steak.
Yeah, that's disappointing.
There are so many good council provides.
You don't have to fuck the good dick only.
Like, Mr. Brokey only.
If they're paying, if they're paying you, is what you're saying.
Kylie, what do you think about this?
What is the specific topic?
I kind of spaced out at the end.
Yeah.
What do you think about the Roman Empire?
I don't know much about the Roman Empire.
What do you think about the Russian invasion of Georgia that happened a while ago?
Never heard of that.
Russia invaded Georgia, not the state, the country.
It's in the Balkans, kind of.
I've never heard of that.
You should be asking me those questions.
What do you think about the Ribbon Trop plan?
Wait, is it the hold on?
Ribbon Trump pact?
How are you going to ask me these questions and you don't even know?
What do you think about the Molotov Ribbon Trop Pact?
I don't know what that is.
Okay.
Because they are making topic.
They want to make clips.
Like, girls don't know no shit.
That's the only thing they know.
They're asking for shit and they don't know anything about history.
It's like material for them.
George donated $200.
Not true.
Almost all First Nations women can still hunt fish and skin animals.
Really?
Most can survive in the wilderness and make a fire without matches or a lighter.
If they can do it, why can't other women?
I don't know.
We haven't had them that can do that.
I don't know.
We don't even look at it.
I feel like if I threw a guy out in the woods and told them to make a fire, they'd start crying.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's true.
Nowadays, yeah.
We could probably allow that.
Because Brian says that they need the prince's treatment.
That's right.
So that's why they're going to stay in that.
We need to be in.
Us men need to be in our princess era right now.
They're not going to know how to do that shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, most of them probably do not fire and go in the woods and do shit.
They're going to be scared like us girls.
Yo, if a man was like, do you guys be scared of decking hunt and fish?
Like, I'd be like, you know what?
Let's go.
Sweet.
Those are some pretty basic survival skills, I feel like.
You know, fishing, cooking, hunting, etc., skinning stuff.
It's all pretty simple.
I learned how to skin a fish and I was like, bait.
We have pelagic here, super chat.
New age narcissistic bullshit.
You aren't special.
Do you want to respond to that?
It's for you, Bailey.
Oh.
Wait, what?
Why?
What?
He didn't even give it context as to why he said that.
He says, New Age, narcissistic bullshit.
You're like new age hippie shit.
How?
How is anything I'm saying narcissistic if it's just the truth and if it's just, that's weird.
It's not like I'm manipulating people like a lot of you and actually use my ego, which is a real narcissist.
Who was Nick?
You see Nick, my producer?
Who was he in the past life?
I have no idea.
You'll know.
It might take a while.
Like, sometimes I do know pretty fast, but it really takes a while.
Do you need to, like, hold his hands or some shit?
Yeah.
Actually, so I can, so my friend, she spent the night with me in the bed, didn't really touch each other, and I dreamt of who she was.
Oh, wow.
So.
So that was interesting.
And who her twin flame is, because apparently she also has one.
So yeah, I could even just them sleeping near me.
Holding hands, maybe one day, if it gets to that point.
That sounds crazy, though.
I don't know if I want to do all that.
But maybe.
We'll see.
Interesting.
Wait, hold on.
Somebody says I missed a chat.
Oh.
You did.
I remember.
What?
Wait, hold on.
Let me look.
Let me look.
Who was it for?
Wait, hold on.
No, I didn't.
Yeah, there was one.
At least you didn't talk about it, and it just was on there for a little bit, and then it went away.
I think it was to her.
Actually, I have no idea.
One of the ones was to her.
It was like, she's the only one that deserves to be married.
There's that one we didn't discuss.
This one says I missed a $100 chat.
What was your name?
Jet, you're going to have to send another one in.
Pretty sure I didn't miss it.
Tell me what your name was that you sent the chat under, and I'll take a look.
Pretty sure I didn't miss it, though.
So, yeah, I don't know.
We have another chat here.
Boom.
Felicity get here for the fit check.
My spring play goes like this.
All right.
All right, everybody, stand up.
We're going to do fit checks.
Oh, geez.
Fit checks.
Everybody wants to see your fit.
Everybody wants to see the fit.
Oh, do we have to do it now?
Yeah, stand up.
Just stand up where you're sitting.
All right.
Boom.
Oh, kind of blocked here.
All right.
All right.
There it is.
The fit.
Let's see.
Spin.
No.
Spin.
Spin.
No.
Okay.
All right.
There's the fit.
Boom.
There's the fits.
Congrats.
What is your dress?
Is that what statue is that?
You guys can sit.
Oh, I thought you might have me.
I think it's supposed to be Venus.
Venus.
That's cool.
But it doesn't look like it.
Maybe.
We have a message that, unfortunately, because our stream yard is not working, we can't pull it up.
Rate your looks on a scale of one to ten.
You can't pick seven going around the table starting with you.
What do you rate your own looks on a scale of one to ten?
Shoot.
Based off my own opinion and perception, ten.
Ten?
Okay.
What about you?
Eight.
Eight.
You said I can't see something.
Fix your mic.
Just straighten it a bit so it's like facing you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't pick seven.
So what'd you pick?
7.5.
Full numbers.
Eight.
Eight?
Okay.
Like an eight on a good day.
Eight on a good.
What about a bad day?
Okay.
Six.
Okay, so we'll go with eight then.
What about you?
Probably a six.
Probably a six.
Okay.
The same answer I always say: ten because I look like how I wanted to look.
Again, we don't need to get into that.
I did that last time.
Okay, ten.
What about you?
Ten because I love myself.
Okay, what about you?
Solid six.
Into the mic.
Solid six.
All right.
So we have three tens, three eights.
Wow.
Very attractive panel that we have tonight then.
I always get the most attractive women.
To the tens at the table, you're going to draw my ire for a moment.
Ten?
Someone probably say I'm a six, but I think ten, personally.
A couple questions here.
I want you to name a woman, like maybe a celebrity who you think is a ten.
Off the top of my head.
Yeah.
Oh, dude, I'm like really bad about this.
You know, what's her face that plays Fiona Gallagher from Shameless?
I don't know.
Annie Ross.
I'm pretty.
Yes.
Thank you.
She's really beautiful.
Emma Watson.
Or no.
It's like Emma.
Any Roman.
Irani Rossum or something.
Sure.
Who's the 10?
A female 10?
Some Megan Fox.
Megan Fox 10.
Zendaya.
Zendaya 10.
Okay.
Just be clear, those of you who said 10 and you gave us a 10 of another woman who you think is a 10, you guys are just saying you're just as good looking as Megan Fox, Zendaya.
I mean, she's trying to be like me, siphon off my energy, so sure.
Bro, Megan Fox doesn't know who the fuck you are.
Oh, yeah, she does, actually.
She's done black magic on me plenty of times.
And if you want, I can call a lot more people if you want to get there.
These people don't know who you are.
Yes, they do.
All the Masons, all Illuminati, every single one.
And I actually wrote that, so we could talk about that later.
Okay, next question.
Megan Fox casted black magic on you.
Yep.
And Rihanna and Beyoncé in the same night one time.
If I ever met these people, if I met any of these women and I was like, hey, do you know this chick named Bailey?
Of course they're not going to say, are you stupid?
Oh, they're going to deny it.
Of course, they're not stupid.
I mean, they are a little bit, but.
Because why are they doing black magic on me when I love them?
And it's like, they shouldn't be.
They should just be my friends, but it is what it is.
Yeah, okay.
Because I love them more than anyone else.
Okay, just as good looking as Megan Fox, just as good looking as Zendaya.
Okay.
tell me a guy who's a tent why am i so bad at thinking of people can i Can you come back to me?
Okay, coming back.
Who's a guy who's a 10?
Wait, come back to me too, because I need a moment to think about it.
Ooh, the guy from 365 days.
Him and Megan actually did a movie together, so both of them.
I'm not sure what that is.
What's his name?
Oh, gosh.
Michael?
Michael B. Jordan?
Because I'm not going to say that.
But he's.
Yeah, him too.
He's a 10.
Michael B. Jordan.
Michael B. Jordan, male 10.
Okay, do you have a mailton?
I don't know.
Like, I don't, like, the only, like, who's that guy who played Elvis?
I don't know.
Is he, would you say he's a 10?
Oh, Austin.
I feel like my type, I, like, I don't.
I don't know.
My type in men is like alt, like, twinky, like, very machine gun Kelly.
I arguably, most of the time, date men that, like, probably, like, look, like, a little, like, fruit.
Like on, like, they're on hair on.
No, they look fruit.
Okay, well, fruits.
Yo, that would have been.
That was like animal masculine energy.
Wait, are you saying that because of her looks?
No, like, it was to the point where, um, like, anytime, like, my friends, like, we drive by someone skinny, they'd be like, look, it's your man on the side of the road.
Because I said, like, if he looks like he's going to float away in the wind, it's probably for me.
Is it like pretty skinny men?
Like, yeah.
I have the same.
Are they, like, more feminine?
Yeah.
Okay.
But I think that's what attracts me to it.
Because I, like, when I think of like woman, like, attractive woman, I could name you, like, 10.
And, like, I'm sitting here, like, I'm trying to think of men.
I think the first thing that comes in mind is probably Jason Momoa.
Mo, Momoa.
I don't know.
I think I just like more like feminine appearing men.
Yeah.
Can't get down with like a big nose, but like the big eyelashes and like nice eyes.
Like, I don't know, like, the like little features, I feel like.
I don't know.
I dated a guy who took better care of his hair than me, and I think it was a red flag.
I should have ran sooner.
I agree.
That's a good thing.
Because you're more bisexual.
Yeah.
Well, I'm like pan.
I just like, I say pan because it's like I'm open to anything.
Like, it's literally, I don't care if I'm attracted to you, then I'm.
It's just based on personality, right?
Yeah.
I just, like, if I'm attracted to you, it doesn't really matter what you have going on down there.
Thanks, Mary.
What flavor is that?
Avocado.
It looks really good.
Avocado.
It looks so good.
Avocado?
Can I?
I heard someone like say avocado.
Well, because avocado smoothies are a thing.
I don't have to take it.
I know it's like melon, right?
Huh?
Isn't melon?
It's like honey.
Okay.
Do you have to eat or lick it?
I'm not answering that question.
So what are we talking about?
I know someone.
I know someone for you.
Oh, set her up.
I'm weird.
I'm good.
I'm doing my thing.
How do you feel about Luigi Mangiani?
Dude.
Ooh.
Dude.
We need to free him.
What kind of people?
Free my man.
Luigi.
I want to talk about that.
Like, genuinely, though.
The one that everyone just stopped talking about him.
The one that murdered him.
Everyone just stopped talking about him.
How do you feel?
I don't know how you actually feel about him.
We were inches away.
Well, okay, like hot take, but like I low-key don't think that he did it.
Like genuinely.
Well, he hasn't been convicted yet.
Also, like he still hasn't been convicted or like face trial or anything like legitimately.
But it's just because there's like inconsistencies that I've seen coming up.
Like genuinely like.
It might be a setup.
It might be like a steering.
Like I do weird.
Like I like looking into things like that.
And I don't mean like hot take, like he definitely didn't do it, but like there's Loki like changing.
But I think that's why most women like him more because they think that he did do it.
Bailey, what do you think?
Do you think he did it?
It could have been a setup.
I don't know, actually.
I haven't focused on it too much, but it could be some type of setup because he's in like Diddy's cell, like not his cell, but he's like, it's the same lawyers and the same case, and it was like around the same time, so it might be staged.
So I'm not going to say 100%.
I don't know.
But if he did do it, I think that's why most women like him more.
You think it's a distraction?
Me personally, no.
I don't really care.
I don't really.
I didn't care about the situation.
But I think it may have been a.
It may not have been him.
It may not have been.
Did you dream about anything?
Actually, no.
No, not about this.
I dreamt about a lot of other things that happened, but like what?
Like, Diddy?
What?
Tell us.
Yeah, okay, this is odd to say.
Is if he was being honest about wanting to change, I don't think he's going to get convicted for that long.
But if he wasn't being honest, I think he's going to face a lot of time.
So I guess we'll see what happens.
Because, yeah, I can't say too much.
Did you speak to Diddy in your dreams?
Cricket, do the cricket go to bed again.
I can't.
I don't know.
I wouldn't want to go to sleep again.
Let's just say it wasn't like bad.
I think he generally wanted help.
So let's just say that.
And hopefully he was being honest with that.
Because if so, if he wanted help and he's being honest, I think he'll get out sooner.
Did he?
Yeah.
Like, you mean, like, because all the shit he was doing, he wasn't like.
He wasn't in total control of what even he was doing.
It was like some other stuff going on.
Because Brian doesn't like that.
Like dark stuff that we don't need to talk about.
Talk about something else.
Because it's a little too much.
I have a question.
I have a question.
Yes.
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
Yes.
Starting with you.
I don't have a preference, unfortunately.
I feel like my bar is like very low.
Like not in a bad way.
I don't know.
I dated someone like fully on Social Security and like unemployed and like on disability and stuff.
Like a husband though.
Like would you marry?
Yeah, no, like legitimately, like, yeah, like I would be open to that.
Depending, like, it depends on circumstance.
Like, if you're not trying at all, like, yeah, but like, I don't know.
My mom's like the primary breadwinner in my family.
So like, is McDonald's a worker okay?
Dude, I feel like, yo, if I really loved you and like McDonald's is like your shit, then like, who am I to judge?
I don't know.
I feel like everything I seem like really indifferent or like devil's advocate, but it's literally just because I'm like, oh, like at the end of the day, like, I feel like I'm only here to like, to, to live and to, like, love other people, to, like, just experience life and to, like, be a good person.
So we should be trying.
We're going to come back to that in just a moment.
But what were we talking about?
Oh, the looks rating.
You said the guy that you think is a 10 is the guy who murdered the healthcare CEO?
No, that's not.
That's not what I said.
I said I couldn't think of anyone.
And I just said my Taipei guy is generally like more than feminine.
The assassin come up.
I don't know.
I said she said it at least.
Segue.
She's like, would you be with him?
Well, because I said like Twinkie men, and she said, what do you think about Louie G men?
It's like.
Would any girl here date him knowing what he did?
No.
Yes.
Show of hands.
Show of hands.
Yes, yes, yes.
So there's this phenomenon.
I think it's a paraphilia called.
I can't believe I'm forgetting it.
It's what is it?
Chat, help me out.
It's the attraction to criminality.
What is it?
I'm trying to remember.
No, it's on the tip of my tongue.
I've said it before.
Hebristophilia, thank you.
So this phenomenon is much more common.
It's almost exclusive.
Much more common in women.
I believe this to be a sexual dysfunction.
This is a dysfunction.
To be attracted to somebody who quite clearly assassinated somebody.
This is somebody you want to date?
Why would that be?
If they did it for the right reason.
When is it ever the right reason to assassinate somebody?
The thing is, like, it's really similar to the money.
Was it self-defense, Bailey?
Personally, I would not physically take matters in that way.
I don't care what you would do, but you would date the guy who...
Isn't that because women in general want the bad boy, quote-un-say?
Well, that's what he's talking about.
It's like it's an actual phenomenon.
But I feel like that's just more related to like probably trauma.
Yeah.
And then just like people having dysfunctional things happen growing up and like reflect.
I feel, I don't know.
I feel like everyone acting out is a reflection of like something going wrong.
Like in general.
No, I think it's trauma has a lot to do with like the type of guy you want to go for.
Well it can be, but I mean there could also be like a, to some degree a biological evolutionarily evolutionary explanation for why women are attracted to violent men or dangerous men.
I mean I can see like theoretically how that would be beneficial in like a hunt and gatherer.
Well but that would be that would be the evolutionary biological basis.
Sure this person's a monster but if I'm aligned with him protect me conceivably what defines monster because we used to like duel each other in like the 17th century.
That would be consensual that would be like a consensual thing.
Right, but like if one person sends it like nobody consents to be murdered.
I mean like yeah that's what makes it murder.
But if someone like is like please like kill me and then you kill them like the law is still like well it's still murder dude like you still gotta go to jail.
So I don't know, because I think murder is like subjective, like I, that's like a really hot take, but like legitimately, like there is no like murder bad, murder good, because right realistically, I mean a lot of people would say like well, if you murder your rapist or if you murder your child abuser, if like someone like abused, sexually abused your child, murdering them is like like justified, a lot of people agree with that legally.
It's not legally, not legally justified, but a lot of people agree like morally justified.
Which is why I mean there's still a show of hands at the table when people are like, or when you are like would you date Luigi?
Even after he did that, people are like yeah, because there is no like murder is just bad.
Or murder is just like not bad because it's okay contextually, like.
I think my opinion on that is like you can't play God, you can't take someone else's life, no matter what you think your reasoning for that is that's how my stance on it.
But I think that everyone has different justifications and reasoning for like why they do things, whether or not it's valid or justified for you, right.
But so who here thinks the killing was justified that Luigi Mangione did?
I mean Kylie.
You said you would date him, so I assume you believe it's justified.
I'm not dating him because I'm attracted to criminals, I just date him because he's attractive.
Yeah, the whole assassination thing wouldn't be.
Um, I didn't really get much into it into that, but I heard that the argument was that he was the CEO of United Healthcare and that they were taking money away from a lot of innocent people or something or like charging them, denying claims.
So well look, there's no doubt and no dispute that health insurance companies are the bane of Corporate greed, right?
And it's despicable what they do.
But there are mechanisms in place to, you know, changing laws or that would be the appropriate way.
For example, like what would then stop conservatives from just murdering a bunch of like people who advocate for trans stuff?
Like, whoa, these trans people, these trans advocates are harming children.
We should murder them because of what we believe.
Well, people do do that.
Like, genuinely.
Yeah.
I mean, like, like, people do do things like that.
Yeah, there's nothing.
I think that it's just like not really an argument you can make.
Like, one, like, two bads doesn't make it good.
Like, just because someone, like, you know what I mean?
I feel like that's just always like not a good argument.
Well, like, if this person did something bad, what if I went and did this bad thing?
But so, okay, but that's not that like related to this.
It's like there's discussions of, okay, well, there shouldn't be billionaires.
We should like murder billionaires, right?
What's all of us here at this table?
By virtue of us living in the United States, maybe, maybe you guys, some of you aren't quite there yet, but once you guys start a job, you will all, everybody here will be in the global 1%.
So what is stopping the bottom 99% globally from saying, we don't like what Americans have.
We're coming and taking it and we're going to murder you so we can have the things that you have.
They might do it.
Well, we're going to fucking stop them.
But what?
Why can't they do that?
Because people don't actually realize how fucked up our government is, I feel like.
First of all, but also there's better ways to go about it.
I'm not saying we should do that, but there's a movie about it that we won as we did that.
But what I'm trying to say is, we would win.
But what I'm trying to say is, is there's this like this sort of disdain.
We should punish them instead, not kill them.
Can you stop interrupting, lady?
Sorry.
There's this disdain for hyper-wealthy people.
And look, maybe perhaps some of that, this dislike could be, there could be issues with sort of the incoming, the inequality that exists in America.
However, this idea that we should like do away with billionaires and like essentially assassinate them is kind of ridiculous because then that opens all of us up in the United States to then being subject to the same sort of treatment by the bottom global 50%.
If you live in America, you're in the top 1% of the world.
You make $50,000 a year.
You're in the top 1% globally.
But by like what definition?
Like, and like, I understand what you're saying, but I mean, legitimately by what definition in the sense of like, I feel like a lot of people would move outside of the U.S. and be more comfortable living third world and like not having as many things as we have here comparatively to living here with certain aspects.
Like for me, for example, if I could get better health care somewhere else, oh my God, I'd leave the U.S. in a heartbeat.
The United States has the no, it does not have the worst.
The United States has some of the best doctors in the world.
Right, which is cool if you can get into them, if you can see them, if it doesn't take like a year to see a primary, to be able to see, like to get a referral to see a specialist, to be able to.
What you're describing happens in Canada, where they have universal health care.
Yeah, well, I'm not necessarily like talking about Canada, but like I'm also saying, I said, is if there is somewhere else that can provide that for me, then I would leave instantly.
Do you want to move to Cuba or something?
I don't know.
I mean, dude, I don't, I like straight up, like.
All right, here, we're getting off topic off of dating stuff.
Here, we have one sec.
We got some chats coming through.
Got some chats.
I don't know.
Y'all women be dating criminals and murderers and shit.
The fuck?
No, there is no problem.
I don't care how hot.
I'll tell you this.
And look, maybe some men will disagree with me.
If a girl has murdered somebody, I'm not talking self-defense.
If a woman has murdered somebody, I don't care if she's the most beautiful woman in the world.
I don't care how hot she is.
Red flat, deal breaker.
Deal breaker.
Uh-uh.
Never would ever consider dating somebody like that.
Y'all women, I don't know, you get the tingles.
No, I get it.
I get it.
i think like when i was younger i used to like get turned on by a man that was like because i thought that was masculine you know I thought that was like what it meant to be masculine.
But then as you get older, you start to realize, no, that was actually not okay of them to like touch me a certain way or whatever.
But it's so masculine to have a wife and two children and then go away to prison for 20 years.
No, that's so masculine.
And then your children grow up with another father.
It's like the most masculine thing ever.
Food for thought.
Yeah, it's mom.
I've read something.
I think it was earlier today I read it and it said something along the lines of maybe women are going after these toxic relationships because that's all they know is toxic relationships and that's the only form of consistency that they think they'll find.
And I think that that's a way to look at it.
But I think that there's so many things that contribute to you having your current perception and then your general lack of or your sense of awareness.
Yeah.
I think sense of awareness is a big one too because like when you go through a traumatic experience with a specific partner, I think that's where you like either learn from it and you want to like move on and do something different or stay the same.
Also, why is it like you hear all these women complaining about dating a guy who's abusive, but simultaneously you're like, yeah, I would date this criminal.
So it's like, on one hand, he was, he abused me.
On the other hand, there were all these red flags that you were conveniently ignoring because he was exciting to you or he was attractive or whatever it is.
Like, I don't think anybody should be abused.
But if you, like, if you intentionally go after like a walking red flag, should you be surprised when you're abused?
Like, you end up being abused?
Because the same token, I feel like men aren't generally like walking up to being like, hey, like, I'm planning on being on you when we start dating in three months.
Because I feel like that's like the situation that I've unfortunately ended up in before where I'm like, it's all good.
Like, it's flowers.
It's you're giving me rides everywhere.
You're paying for my gas money.
You're taking me out on dates every week.
And we finally commit.
And then all of a sudden it's just like, like, not consistent.
And then when I'm like, hey, this doesn't feel consistent.
They're like, what are you talking about?
I did that like two weeks ago.
And then it becomes like a back and forth of like, but I did that even though they're not doing it.
And I don't know.
It becomes like a manipulation thing where they feel like they get you into the relationship.
And then like, yeah, like when it's like bad.
I mean, I'm like, well, I mean, that's like bad and I like should probably leave.
And then I feel like when you're getting ready to leave, they like rope you back in.
That's kind of the cycle of abuse.
Going back to the rating 10 out of 10 thing.
I'm waiting for the girl to rejoin us.
Damn, bro.
Felicity, you get up too much.
What the fuck, bruv?
She's gone like half the podcast.
I'll wait until she's back here.
We have a chat coming in from.
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Thank you, man.
Pasty George donated $200.
On the show, Bear Grills Survival Island, boys versus girls.
The men won while the girls almost died.
Both teams have survival training.
It was a real test of wilderness survival.
Yep, that's what men should be doing.
Was that the same show where they like they gave them the pig and then they didn't kill the pig because it was cute?
Probably.
I don't know.
Sounds like it.
I think that's the same one.
All right, here.
While we wait for her to come back, I'm going to just get into some of the pre-show notes.
Let's do.
Okay, Kylie.
Kylie.
You said your ex dated your best friend right after you guys broke up.
Yeah, so it was.
Is this the like.
No, not the recent one.
A previous ex that you didn't talk about?
No, yeah.
Okay.
Wait, no, yeah?
Sorry, I mess up.
Yeah, it was a previous SI ex I didn't talk about.
Okay.
And your best friend is a man.
My, yeah, my best friend's a gay man.
A gay man.
So you were, you dated a guy.
And then right after you broke up, he dated your best friend.
So you have, shouldn't you have beef with here's the here's a backstory.
Um, so on you know, the topic of my type is very twink and feminine men.
Um, I don't really have a preference for men or women.
Um, but specifically for men, I do like them to be a little bit more feminine to the point that they are, they turn out to be gay, which is completely fine.
And I knew before me and him talked.
Oh, wait, how many times did you have a game?
Which is have you encountered, have you encountered this the gay man thing?
Yeah.
Like you've dated multiple gay men, basically.
No, not like strictly gay men.
You know, bisexual men most of the time, or very just feminine, straight man.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just like it when men are just in touch with their feminine side.
Feminine side.
Yeah.
And I'm going to put a demonstration.
I'm going to do demo.
You tell me if this is kind of the guy you go for.
Oh my god, Kylie, you are just so adorable.
Oh my gosh.
Is that kind of, are you turned on?
No, because that just sounds like you're a really feminine, feminine, gay man.
Gay man.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know, kind of longish hair, but like, I feel like didn't do for it.
It's just like a certain type.
Like, I don't know.
So on the border of you're not sure if they're gay.
That just really does it for you.
I mean, they kind of look like it.
They kind of look gay, too.
Do they have the limp wrist?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
That's the attractive part.
It's like they look like.
Oh, God, this sounds so bad.
They look.
Oh, you guys have a lot in common then?
They look gay.
You guys both like gay?
They look like to the point where it's like if you walked by them, like, like, like they got like, oh, period.
Like, like, when they're walking by.
Quiet Bailey.
Are you on birth control?
Yes.
Are you on birth control?
No.
Ever been on birth control?
No.
Hmm.
Okay.
Hello.
Never mind.
My question: would you guys do with some.
What is it?
Well, there's this theory that.
So when women go on birth control, it psychologically changes the type of guy you're attracted to.
Really?
I have always been attracted to that type of guy.
My understanding, my understanding is what it can do is when women are on hormonal birth control, they'll typically be attracted to more feminine men.
When they're not on birth control, they're attracted to more masculine men.
No, not true.
I mean, it's not, it's not like a what's the term?
It's not a monolith here.
I'm not saying it's always the case.
Oh.
Okay, back to my question.
Would you guys date a guy that like presents himself pretty masculine, but is a little bit feminine, but then sexually like dresses feminine?
Yeah.
Watch!
I have some.
I might have something for you, guys.
I'm so lost.
Like one more time.
Okay, so he's bisexual.
Well, actually, he didn't even say he's bisexual.
He said he only likes women, but he'll like dress up sexually as a woman.
But he's like, are you talking like wago on the corner?
Like skirts.
Would you be into birth?
Not like a full-on, not a full-on cross-dresser.
Just like sexually just wearing.
You're derailing here.
We're going to be like, no, I was like, would they date someone like that?
So tell us the story of how your ex after you guys broke up, he started dating your best friend who's gay.
Yeah, sorry, back.
Is that the guy on your Instagram?
You know, the guy?
Isn't there a guy on your Instagram?
If there is, it's probably deleted, and it was probably my ex.
But not the one that dated my best friend.
Oh, oh, that's my best friend.
The one on my Instagram.
That's my best friend.
That's gay.
Yeah.
That your ex dated.
Yeah.
It's a joke between us that it's kind of like our lore that we have together.
So you weren't upset either?
No, no, because we only were talking for like two months and then dated for one month.
And then I broke up with him because from the start and this was like maybe a year or two ago I shouldn't have like, I shouldn't have let him on.
I felt super terrible about that.
That was in, like when I was just hooking up with people and didn't.
I didn't catch any feelings and he felt different and he wanted a date and so I agreed and then I didn't want it anymore and so I broke up with him.
And then I after that I called my best friend telling him, you can go for him now, because before we started talking or ever dating him and or my ex and my best friend used to talk, but they didn't last long and then it was.
This is how me and my best friend became best friends.
It was a competition of who would get him first.
And then I eventually started dating him, didn't like it broke up with him and the whole time we were together I would always involve my best friend with us, like if I don't, I don't know why.
And then I, literally after we broke up, I told my best friend, you can go for him now, I don't care.
And then he did keep it a secret from me that they were talking, but that's only because our ex didn't want me to know, which is completely understandable for me.
Have you ever pegged a guy?
No oh, because you I don't know.
You said you like feminine guys.
So no yeah yeah, I mean, I like feminine guys.
You know, I dated one masculine guy.
I didn't like like it, and that was the masculine guy, the gay.
Okay, you also want in your notes here you said the rules of dating that you you wanted to maybe bring up olive theory.
What's that?
From what I've heard, is that if you don't like a certain thing, the other person will love it.
It's basically food.
If you don't like tomatoes, the other person loves tomatoes, and vice versa.
Oh, so one person likes olives, the other doesn't lose.
The olive theory is just you don't like something, they love something.
That's I feel like that's with everybody.
Okay, the three-month rule.
What's that?
I think the three-month rule is real, but like you don't have to base it off someone how much you like them based on that.
What is it?
It's basically you're talking to someone for three months, and then you'll know if you want to date them or not.
Oh, okay.
So three months is the like shit or get off the pot or what?
Yeah, basically.
So it takes three months of just.
I mean, it doesn't have to take three months if you know, you know.
You know, if you really like someone, you just stay with them.
Three months in is when you think people get a sense of if they want something more.
Around three months from what I've experienced and what from my friend's experience.
But I don't think people should base three months just to know if they want to be with them or not.
Question: How long have you had the tongue piercing?
A week.
Just one week?
That's why I didn't come next week.
Last week.
Yeah.
Nice.
That's why I didn't come last week because I couldn't talk.
Oh, I didn't.
Oh, yeah, we had you on schedule for last week.
She gave you tongue piercing.
And then your tattoo.
What's your tattoo on your arm?
That's the sound of music.
Oh.
It's my mom's favorite movie and it's mine.
And then I have a bunch more.
The one that says Bliss, that's kind of just for me.
I have a pomegranate for my grandpa.
My grandma's name in Japanese.
And then my like two people dancing for my sister.
Gotcha.
And is your mom the Japanese one?
Yeah.
Dad.
Is dad in the picture?
No.
Parents ever married?
Yes, but I was divorced when I was like two.
Two.
Not in the picture?
Nope, not for like 10 years.
Actually, no, that's a lie.
A week?
No.
A day before I moved here, my grandpa, who, or my mom's dad, my dad lives with my mom's parents because otherwise if he didn't, he would be homeless and all of his family's in Connecticut.
So the day before.
Wait, all his family's what?
His whole family's in Connecticut.
And my dad is 69 years old, and he has a bunch of issues where he can't properly walk or talk or have any abilities to just live a normal life.
How old's your mom?
52.
Mom's 52.
Yeah.
Dad's 69.
So your dad got your mom pregnant with you in her late 50s.
And he was 50-ish.
Yeah, around that time.
Good for him.
I guess.
Does your mom have any other kids?
Yeah, I have one sister.
I also have three step-siblings and like my half-brother who's like 30, maybe 40 years old by now, but I never met him.
Oh, does she have, with your dad, does she have other kids?
No.
Okay, I see.
So your mom has kids from two people?
No, it's just my dad and it's like me and my sister, like fully related.
Wait.
Hold on.
You're fully related to your sister?
Yeah, same mom, same dad.
Oh, so okay.
She's younger or older?
Younger.
Okay, I see.
Okay, so they had two kids.
Does she have other kids?
No, she doesn't.
It's just me and her.
But she remarried, like, she remarried a guy, and that guy had kids.
Yeah, he had three kids, but they divorced.
What is February theory?
What's that?
February theory.
I okay, forgot about the February theory.
Does anybody know what that is?
Valentine's Day, maybe?
I feel like it has to do something with that.
I completely forgot what it was, though.
I was, yeah.
You also wrote modern dating has been ruined by social media.
Love has no pattern or rules.
When you love someone or something, you just know it.
Yeah, it's basically it.
Like, before social media, I looked up to how my mom and stepdad acted, and I thought that was real love.
Like, they had a few disagreements, but it's not like they never yelled at each other.
They talked everything out, and even if they disagreed on something, it's just like you agree to disagree, and that's fine.
And they always did everything for each other.
It's not like, oh, I want this, and I'm not going to give you anything in return.
And I just, I think, why not just love whoever you want to love without.
But social media ruined it.
Yeah, social media with all like the love theories and rules and stuff like that.
Pasty, thank you, man.
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Now, the quality and wait times to see a doctor in Canada sucks due to cuts in social spending.
Thank you for adding that, Pasty.
Appreciate it.
Oh, there was a bunch of doctors from Canada that moved to the U.S. in the 90s.
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We have Techno Trooper here.
He writes, with just 22,000 jobs added, unemployment at 4.3%, and grads facing 6% joblessness.
Is dating for financial security realistic when even educated workers lack stability?
Anybody want to weigh in on this?
No.
Okay, I guess I would just say it's very hard to have feminism and then also have women wanting men to be providers.
Like the two, look, it's possible, but the two kind of butt heads a little bit.
So I'm not saying that women shouldn't have the option or the choice to work, which by the way, women have always been able to work.
It's just historically most industries were rather, there wasn't like 100, 200 years ago, there weren't air-conditioned, comfortable office jobs for women.
Most work that was available to anyone, but to men, it was like physical labor.
And men are stronger than women.
Men are better suited at physical labor.
And then back then, women did work.
Women did work too.
It's total nonsense that they were, it was illegal for women to work.
There were just certain realistic practical reasons why many didn't or couldn't.
And then if we're talking about like how people used to live and more, you know, homesteading, farmsteading, this sort of thing, women definitely worked.
Not always for a paycheck, though.
It's kind of different.
But I guess how do we reconcile, I want a man to provide, but also we should be paid 50-50.
I think these two things are not particularly compatible.
Oh my God, bro, this panel.
All right.
Good talk, guys.
Well done.
Appreciate the incisive contribution.
You're welcome, Brian.
Let's see here, uh, going, okay, wait.
I need to wait.
God damn, I got to wait until she's back now.
We're going to go to.
Hold on.
Here, we'll go to Alex here.
Alex, you said one thing you'd like to discuss, how social media is red pilling the thick out of boys and girls, younger and younger, and the greater issue in this area being that girls feel a pressure to engage in sexual promiscuity earlier than is necessary, plus, and what men, boys having this expectation on girls does to the dating pools in older teen, young adults.
That's a rambling sentence.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Well, actually, it could be interesting going around the table.
Talking about sexual promiscuity, like young.
When did everyone lose their virginity?
How old were you?
I think it was 15.
15.
22 and a half.
Like 23?
15.
15?
Like 16.
16.
That's personal.
Oh, sorry.
That's personal.
Me next.
It's personal.
Okay.
20.
20.
12.
Like.
Like, yeah, the boyfriend?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
60.
Your mind went to the wrong place, didn't it?
I feel like that's a very fair place for me to go.
That's kind of the same.
I thought the same thing.
I'm sorry.
Just to clarify, that's not what I meant.
Still not good.
Still not good, but like...
Not good.
Yeah.
Better than maybe what my mind jumped to.
12.
Okay.
Good times.
And then we're waiting on Bailey there.
Okay.
Oh, boy.
That's going to be an interesting one.
But what was the thing about you wanted the red pill thing?
It was like, I was seriously rambling yesterday.
I thought about that after I sent it and I was like, I don't know if that's something that I like will even have the time to divulge properly.
But it's more so, at least from my perspective, especially going through the troubled teen industry.
I mean, you have an age range of girls and they're like 13 to 18, give or take.
So a lot of people that I'm still mutuals with are like younger girls.
Like, you know, they're like 16, 17.
They're my like past peers for my program.
So it's like an older sister type relationship.
But my point being, like, I observe, right, these like high school age girls.
And I think that coupled with the lack of like what, in my opinion, is like proper sex education in America.
And also, at least in California, the ability to unenroll your children in sex education altogether creates a problem in general for like girls and their perception of like consent and what appropriate behavior is and all of these things.
But I think more specifically, the way that at least I've noticed the algorithm pushing like OnlyFans content and stuff like that is just really heavy.
And so it doesn't mean that necessarily that's like the majority of the content out there, but whatever like OnlyFans and like type content there is out there, I feel like is being pushed to social media very heavily, which is cool when you're old enough to, you know, perceive that content accurately and view that content in a safe way.
And I feel like a lot of parents, I mean, don't really monitor their kids on social media very well.
But I think my issue is that these younger girls are being shown that I feel like not that that's what's normal.
I don't want to word it like that, but that's what's maybe expected of them is to put yourself out there more, to dress a little bit skimpier, to be perceived a certain way, which is completely fine if you know what that means.
If you're comfortable and confident in yourself and you feel comfortable wearing that clothing, you go do that.
But I feel like me growing up, I wasn't comfortable or confident doing that, but I thought that that was the expectation of me.
And I feel like my bigger issue is that like these younger and younger teenage boys are thinking that this is like the norm and that it's like completely okay to expect certain things from women and that that's affecting younger and younger generations of girls.
I don't really know how to like condense that.
There's a lot of that.
But I think that that's just affecting.
So I think there's a team pool.
I don't know if there's a Dave Chappelle.
It's either Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle.
Sort of, I think, I don't know which one has a joke on this.
You're not a prostitute, but you're wearing a prostitute's uniform.
So, I mean, I guess that's not necessarily what I'm saying.
I'm saying more so, like, I'm 15.
I'm starting to date.
Me and those 15-year-old boys that go to school with me, we're all on Instagram.
We're all getting pushed the same, like, content.
And I feel like perception-wise, because it's not being backed with like sexual education, that's affecting how young boys also view young girls and also how young girls view themselves.
So, my main thing being that I think because there's like this sexual content being wrongfully pushed to minors who should not be seeing it to begin with, they're getting this content with no, like I said, sexual education backing that and like what is consent and what is this and what is that?
And like, everyone has like different things going on.
Rambling.
But because it's not backed with that education, I feel like it is becoming problematic to where, sorry, I'm like really rambling.
Like, young boys are like expecting, like, I don't know, like, girls at like 15, 16, to like, be okay having sex, be okay, like, giving head, be okay, engaging in like sexual activity, expecting them to, you know, like show up, like, wearing like thong instead of like normal underwear.
Like, there are certain little things that I mean, I experienced, and I know, like, my friends experience being on, like, the younger end of people in this group, but also I'm having like my 17 and like, you know, 16-year-old friends from like my program come to me and be like, this is a new issue.
And hearing more and more girls talk on social media at 12, 13, 14, like, these boys that I go to school with expect this of me because this is what they're seeing.
And like, I don't know how to like hold boundaries properly.
And I also feel like it's just like messing it up for everyone because it's really voiding people of like having genuine connections and like learning about things like between people deeper than sex.
Because I feel like a lot of high school relationships I saw, it was like, you know, these kids, and it was like all about like sex and like them being intimate and not them like being friends or like going on dates.
And I feel like it's just voiding people of like, yeah, genuine connection.
And like not in the way that OnlyFans is bad or that prostitution or like anything like sex work related is inherently bad as far as like on the woman's end of things.
But it's more so that the content is being pushed to people it shouldn't be being pushed to and it's not having proper sexual education backing it.
It's not having proper education or like guidelines around it.
And it's affecting how people perceive, sorry, how people perceive and like view things.
But it's affecting younger generations than it really should is my thing.
Like kids are dealing with social media bad.
But I mean even going back into the 80s there's always been media that was consumed by high schoolers that depicted sex.
But like me having to walk into like signs at Ridgemont High or American Pie or all these walk into the movie theater like record that shit on your DVR you know what I mean like genuinely you had to like put a little more effort in than just opening up your Instagram.
Well yeah obviously on like a vape now.
Like you know what I mean like like you could literally go on like social media on a vape now.
Okay so should we ban social media for people under 18?
And so that's not my that's not what I'm saying.
Okay so that's the solution.
I mean, like proper education, right?
But like being able to talk about things like that, because I think that's part of it is like where you start like delving into that.
I feel like a lot of people hear OnlyFans bad, like you're against sex work.
And it's like, no, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that there needs to be more regulation about how this content is being pushed to minors because it's affecting everybody.
Like kids should not be dealing with adult issues, especially when it comes to like sex and intimacy.
Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with that.
Honestly, at least my perspective, if I was raising, well, when I'm going to be raising kids, they're not getting a smartphone.
They're not getting internet.
They're not getting access to it until I don't even want my kid to have any social media.
I mean, who knows how things are going to look in 10, 15, 20 years, whatever.
Until they're like 18.
They're not, I'm not laying my daughter or my son on TikTok.
That's fucking brain rot.
I think that that's where you also get into like it's a rock in a hard place because I mean, like realistically, right?
Like, that's the other thing.
It's like, you know, like kids have phones at school.
Like, I don't know if you're doing public school, like whatever.
Well, I'll probably private.
But that's the other thing I feel like is it creates the curiosity.
Whereas I feel like the better way to go about it would be like transparency.
Like, hey, like, we can start talking about you going on social media.
Like, it starts like a couple hours.
Like, I don't know, like, when I was a kid, it was like the kitchen computer, like, things like that for like games.
But because I feel like that's also what I'm talking about is not necessarily, I mean, obviously, if you're doing OF, your whole marketing is online.
So you can't just expect people to not do that.
It's more so, like I said, like the regulation and like education behind it.
Nick, do we have the AI stuff?
Okay.
You said there's also probably a handful of things that we disagree on.
What are some of the things you've seen the show?
I'm assuming.
I'm really bad off the top of my head.
Anything you disagree on?
Anything you disagree on?
Like off the top of my head.
I mean, like, I really like, I don't know, like, name something.
I probably have an opinion on it.
Oh, we didn't really finish up on the like one to ten thing, so we'll go back to that.
Um, all right, uh, once she's back, we'll get going on it.
Um, I guess going back to your thing then, um, with the like having all the hundred, almost a hundred men or whatever that you had seeking arrangements with, you they were paying you thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
I don't know, I feel like women have life on easy mode, like 25.
When you start doing this, you were like 22, 23, whatever.
Men have paid you six figures just for existing.
I don't know, that's most men don't have this fallback of, well, shit, I could just slang some dick to some women for money.
I don't know, y'all have that shit.
You got life on easy mode.
You always got that fallback.
That's true.
I agree.
Some people, they just don't want to compromise.
For example, like you said, you have standards for your future girlfriend or wife, and you have this and that for that.
But people whoever fit in that criteria you give, probably not your type.
If you want to compromise for your requirements, or you want to go to the girl you really like, or you don't really have a type, which is, you know, some people they just go after more fun life, and some people don't, you know, like playing a little bit, playing life.
Okay.
Oh, what were we saying?
Oh, yeah.
And also from work, I'm making, currently making about $15,000 per month myself.
So if I can make that much and I just got started, why can't I expect the guy, whoever I'm seeing, to make more than that or be better than me or to mentor me?
I mean, that's fine.
But, I mean, you do acknowledge that you essentially what you've been doing is prostitution.
Oh, well, that's just a word.
You cannot say it's negative or it's positive.
It's definitely negative.
Oh, it is?
Pro Do your parents know, do your mom tell you?
Yeah, my mom knows.
Well, she knows that you get money, right?
But like, do you tell her, by the way, like, I fuck 75-year-old men for money?
She doesn't know exact number, but almost every time I will tell her, like, I went now.
She knows that you sleep with the men.
Yes.
And then she.
Oh, by the way, I grew up from a Christian family.
I'm Christian.
Hold on.
Excuse me?
My mom is like really, really religious, but that also made her forgiving.
You know, she is very understanding and forgiving.
Wait, what about your dad?
Your dad and mom are together?
Yes.
But what's your dad?
Is your dad Christian?
He's...
no.
He wouldn't say so.
But your dad doesn't know about what you do.
Not yet.
Maybe after this show, who knows?
Could be.
So you tell your mom, I have had sex with approximately 50 men for money.
And she's okay with it?
She's definitely not okay with it, but she's very understanding.
Like, she understands.
Oh, man.
I thought Chinese, I thought Asian parents.
You know?
That's why I left.
That's why I didn't stay.
She would give you the belt?
Both of them, yes.
My whole family, the whole culture, like even wearing lipstick will be looking at a whore in China still.
Based.
So.
Like, without doing anything, just wearing lipsticks, people will see that's a whore.
She's trying to whore herself.
W China.
W China.
Yeah.
Still.
Very conservative.
Show of hands.
Who here is wearing lipstick?
Or sorry.
Wait, that's what it's called.
Lipstick?
Yeah, lipstick.
Show of hands.
Raise your hand.
Lipstick?
It's gone.
It's gone.
Lipstick.
That's gone.
Lipstick.
Are you wearing a lipstick right now?
It's gone.
Sorry.
What do you mean it's gone?
I mean, I have lip gloss, but I don't know if that's- Lipstick.
Lipstick.
Yeah, I don't usually wear lipstick.
You know what, honestly chat, sometimes do we just, wait, nevermind.
No, I'm not.
Never mind.
Don't.
Say it, say it, say it.
That's good.
It's good.
i don't know how do we so do you do you want like a husband and kids or Maybe at the time I won't know.
But yeah, when I meet the guy, when I get into the situation, I won't know.
Do you think it's going to be like, are you going to tell them that, like, hey, by the way, I used to be a prostitute?
They just knew.
Huh?
They already knew from the show we were doing live, right?
Well, yeah, but I mean, you could.
It's plausible you will meet many men who never see the show.
But like, are you going to tell a guy who you see a long-term future with, I should let you know, by the way, I fucked like 50 dudes for money.
Well, I do have some real experience.
I know guys, they don't want to know.
If they don't ask, I don't want to compel them.
I don't want to make them to know.
If they don't want to know, okay, we will leave it.
We'll have peace.
Ignorance is not bliss.
I would want to know.
So I could not date you.
Yeah, that's you, but some guy, they knew I may have a past, but they don't want to know the dates.
They lack standards.
Any guy who'd be okay.
Look, I guess some guys are gonna are forgiving or whatever.
97% of men are not gonna be okay knowing that their girlfriend, future wife, future mother, their children was or is a prostitute.
Good thing is, I don't need to marry that many guy.
I only need one.
And my dating pool is already very, very, very small.
How so?
They have to be like stupidly wealthy.
What is stupidly?
Oh, wait.
We'll get to that.
Like, filthy rich.
How much?
Filthy rich.
How much?
What does that mean?
Like multi-millionaires, maybe.
How much does he make per year?
That's he, like, my future husband?
Yeah.
Standard?
Yeah.
It varies because I'm not a citizen yet.
So, you know, different situations.
Oh, so you're going to try to marry a guy regardless of his wealth so you can get citizenship.
I don't know.
I'm not trying.
I'm not looking.
Yeah, I'm chilling.
I'm at a loss for words.
All right.
We'll get to the money stuff in a little bit here.
Going back to the rating thing, though.
Look, I'll just say this.
We have 10, 8, 8, 8, 6, 10, 10, 6.
Here's my question.
Oh, I didn't rate myself.
I get myself a five.
Why can't average women, average-looking women, just say they're average?
Pride.
Pride.
We don't believe it.
10, 8, 8, 8, 6, 10, 10, 6.
We don't believe it.
We don't mess in the beauty.
Beauty is subjective.
Legitimately.
Because their heart, soul.
Like, it really is.
We have a test here.
Nick, can you go to the Discord?
Wait, was there something we were supposed to do?
Oh, we did that already.
So go to Discord, go to looks.
Go to looks.
We're not going to do the Aboriginal girl, but we're going to do the second to last and the most recent one, okay?
So there's one with Sidney Sweeney.
Yeah.
Full screen that.
Window tab.
Just met Sidney Sweeney and got to show her what a real woman looks like.
Which one is more physically attractive?
To us.
Sweeney.
This is so subjective, though.
Like, just because my type happens to be Sidney Sweeney doesn't mean someone else's type isn't the woman on the right.
Right.
I would, I, I, I suppose I could agree with you that, like, there could be a guy who picks a woman on the right.
I mean, genuinely, like, I, I, I know men that 100% would.
Like, I pick.
Yeah, just because I mean, like, white women aren't their type.
Like, I don't know.
Like, well, hold on.
I think type is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Like, what do you mean, though?
Like, I'm saying, for example, a guy's type could be a Latina woman.
But if he had a pick between like a stunner white woman and a morbidly obese Latina woman, he's probably gonna like relinquish his type a little bit and get with the white woman.
I don't think so.
It depends on what preferences outweigh what.
Like, is your preference for someone weighing less outweigh your preference for the person being Latina?
Because if that's the case, then yeah, you'd probably pick the other person.
If they're morbidly obese, I think so.
Some people are loving that.
Like, that's actually something that you can argue because people are hella individuals.
That's a different thing.
That's a fetish.
That's not.
We're getting into fetish territory.
Yeah, but most relationships are well-adjusted.
Most well-adjusted people are not in the middle of the world.
For example, I would prefer a man with no meat on his bones.
Like, skinny.
But a lot of women would prefer a man muscular.
Like, he goes to the gym.
He works out.
Me personally, I genuinely find muscles, especially when someone gets to the point where they're working out, they're jacked.
I think that it's really unattractive.
Well, I actually don't have any disputes there.
I think a lot of women, when the men get too muscular, wear the roided up, insane.
See, that's not even what I'm talking about.
Okay, so you're saying like even athletic muscular developments where they're not on steroids, but they're like athletic build.
That is still yeah, like if they're like too like, and I don't, the eye, I don't even mean steroids.
I mean, like, you hit the gym consistently for a year, and like by the end of that year, like you're bulking.
Like, yeah, no, I'm like, yeah, really.
Like, I would prefer a paper-thin man, which like a lot of people wouldn't.
That's fine.
Type of some women, some men like thin women, some men like thick women, whatever it is.
Rich guy likes women.
I agree with you that beauty is not strictly, beauty is not objective in the same sense that like physics or math is objective.
Yeah.
Beauty is subjective, but not totally.
Beauty has objective components to it.
Well, because it's like pull the phone back up.
We gotta go around the table.
Right.
I mean, it's a which woman is more beautiful or attractive.
Me.
I mean, like conventionally left or right?
Which one?
Left.
What do you think?
Going around the table?
Sweeney.
Okay.
Sweeney.
Sweeney.
I would choose Sweeney, but someone would choose someone on the right.
But okay, most people would pick Sweeney.
In America, maybe.
I don't think exceptions make the rule.
Every country, but okay.
Yeah.
Sweeney.
Same.
Sweeney.
Sweeney.
All right, next one.
Nick, pull it back up.
Pull the Discord back up.
Right, which one do you want?
Just the bottom one.
We have another one.
Here's a little test.
I think even better.
Yeah.
Is beauty strictly subjective?
Like, yeah.
Strictly subjective.
Like, what do you mean?
There's no objective components of it.
I mean, I also think that that varies depending on like what point in time it is.
What point in at no time in human history has the woman on the left would be deemed more attractive, broadly speaking, than the woman on the right.
I mean, I'm pretty sure.
No, I'm 100% can guarantee that at some point in time.
I mean, at what point in time?
Like, I mean, even now, look at her lips.
Her lips are bigger, right?
Like, she has bigger lips.
Like, I mean, pull her back up, right?
She has bigger lips, which is like generally more attractive than, like, currently right now.
No, I mean only just like that.
Her bottom lip, maybe.
Like, I'm not even arguing to like play devil's advocate.
It's just like, for me, personally, I think that, like, I don't know.
So, my view, European look is beauty is not just in the eye of the beholder.
It's at least partially grounded in objective measurable traits.
So there's like universal aesthetics.
Like, why is it the case that, for example, in cultures who have historically, who have never met or anything like that, like you look at like flowers, for example, universally deemed as something that's beautiful or a sunset.
Why is that universally deemed as like something that is aesthetically pleasing or beautiful?
Because it's arguably beautiful, right?
But why is there consensus, such consensus on the beauty of a flower or a sunset?
Because it's a collective opinion and there's multiple people, right?
Maybe.
Well, is it also not consistent?
Like, that's my thing is like when you're talking about flowers, we're talking about like.
We're talking about beauty.
I mean, if I give you a bouquet of roses, all the roses are pretty much going to look uniform.
But if I stand you in front of like 10 different women, every woman's going to look, I mean, like even like 10 different European white women from the exact same town and the exact same family, they're all still going to look different.
And there's one that you may find more or less attractive or someone else might find.
But I think, for example, something that you could do, and this could apply to both men and women, if you had 100,000 women, maybe we reduce the number, say 1,000 women rank ordering 1,000 men, most attractive, least attractive.
Yeah, this guy for this girl might be above here.
He might be down here, but this girl really likes him.
But if you have that sort of amount of people making an assessment, you're going to eventually see that there are patterns.
And like this guy, this guy in particular, he overwhelmingly gets ranked really high.
Or this woman overwhelmingly gets ranked really high.
So the reason I bring up like sunsets and flowers as it relates to this consensus on beauty is that I believe there's an innate human response to visual harmony.
So things like symmetry, balance, contrast.
These are kind of, I don't know, there's certain traits, like the health indicators, proportionality.
They're consistently preferred across different cultures and populations.
So.
And there's tendencies that make beauty partly predictable and measurable.
Average person, not everybody.
If I showed so today though, I don't give a fuck about the past.
Yeah Pull it back up one more time, Nick, the same one.
I would be willing to wager quite a bit that I could show this photo.
And I think it'd be more.
But I'll just say 99% of men would pick the woman on the right.
What would women pick?
Do you think?
What do you mean?
Like if I showed two different guys?
No.
Like if I showed Brad Pitt versus Jonah Hill.
No, I'm thinking more like if you showed that to like men versus like women and like objectively what they well I think women women prefer comforting lies over uncomfortable truths.
So yeah, there's probably a higher proportion of women who would lie.
But deep down.
A liar would believe that.
Because like legitimately, like when out of the two of them who I genuinely believe is more beautiful, I would say it's the woman on the left.
And my reasoning for that is because I just don't think that like the Eurocentric, like that just like whitewashed look is like super, super insanely attractive because everybody looks like that.
I'm sorry, everybody looks like that.
Like, that's not genuinely how I feel.
So, so, okay, just repeat.
Not that I look anyway.
The woman on the left to you is more beautiful.
Yes.
You're either blind or trolling or lying.
Can I ask this question?
One sec, one sec.
If we hooked you up to a lie detector test, there's no way you're passing that shit.
I mean, to each their own, you know.
Question for you.
Yes.
If let's say you ran a modeling company and you know that typically when it comes to modeling, you have a product, maybe not a modeling company, you have a product and you need to hire a model.
And your entire business, your life savings hinges on the success of this campaign.
I'm going to pick someone who looks unique.
I'm not going to pick.
So you lose your life.
You will be homeless and destitute.
You're telling me everything on the line.
If it's a bad thing.
Everything on the line for your business.
You're picking the woman on the left.
If it's the woman that I believe in, yo.
Yeah.
Because I feel like women like seeing people that don't look like everyone else they see when they walk out on the street.
Why can't women be honest?
That is honesty.
Why are we so worried about protecting each other's feelings that we're lying?
Meanwhile, I'm not lying.
I mean, so for me, for example, right?
My nose is a big bump in the middle of it.
And like, that's been something that I struggled with since I was like little because I got bullied a lot for like having a different nose.
And for me, now that I'm older, I genuinely feel like bigger noses, different unique noses are more attractive than what everyone's like getting nose jobs to look like now.
Like the button like all your noses.
Which I'm not saying that is unattractive at all.
Don't get it twisted.
It's more so that I like seeing people who don't look like everybody else.
And I think a lot of people are getting surgery and like changing themselves to look like what everybody else is.
You realize first off this idea of uniqueness, you realize that white people are a global minority.
So this idea that, oh, the Eurocentric blah, blah, blah, you realize that white people are a minority.
But that's like literally what is like being popularized right now.
Well, I'll tell you this much.
There's more women, or sorry, there's more people who are closer to the skin tone on the left than on the right.
So your Eurocentric bullshit is nonsense.
But just because the population of the world is more so than that, doesn't mean that there's not a like societal standard for women.
Because I mean, like, people who are of different ethnicities are still getting nose jobs to have like Eurocentric white noses.
Yeah.
So clearly it's a thing.
I'm curious how you would answer if I showed you like a really, really attractive black woman and then like a really ugly white woman, who you would pick.
I mean, again, it's subjective because I don't think either person in the photo you showed me is ugly.
Like I just don't.
So what is it?
Tell me an ugly woman.
Like, do you acknowledge that there are ugly women?
I mean, I like, in my opinion, yes.
So who's an ugly woman?
Off the top of my head, dude, I really couldn't tell you.
You can't.
Because I don't spend time.
I try not to spend my time focusing on what's like ugly and unattractive about people.
So you're just non-judgmental.
That's just it.
You're just not judging people.
Well, which I understand because she can't.
Well, okay, here's the other thing: it's not that I'm non-judgmental because I definitely like am.
I'll be honest about that.
Like I am judgmental.
Yeah, she won't date a guy.
She needs to date like a wafy, skinny dude.
If he's not flying away like a frisbee, like I can't do it.
Right.
So you're able to make.
So you're like, okay, you're able to.
But there it is.
But that's my point: is that everyone has different levels of judgment and like what they do and don't judge.
Some people are like super weird and wound up about certain things that other people just aren't and like vice versa.
Like that is something that like if someone like might be willing to die on that, I'm just not.
It's like did you did you want to continue?
I know you had something.
Well yeah, because I feel like in general, because I've gotten bullied when I was younger too, so I've kind of learned like to not judge women in overall.
But I understand like the point of view of like the guys and like, but I feel like whoever you like, like your type is just who you like.
Like you can't stop from like liking that certain type of guy.
They look a certain way.
But yeah, so I got a question for Brian though.
I'll get to it in just a minute.
George donated $200.
Yeah, thank you, Pasty.
The woman has more money than her boy to attend.
Why does she need him?
At this point, she is basically a man and can handle everything herself.
She doesn't need a man and just her finger or a unicorn.
Agreed, Pasty George.
There's this viral video I saw Pasty of this couple, young couple, I don't know, they're probably 19, 20, being interviewed on a pier somewhere.
I saw it on TikTok.
And the interviewer was asking, oh, who pays for dates?
Who does, you know, whatever.
And the guy was like, yeah, I pay for all the dates.
And he was like working a $20 an hour job or something.
And he had like $500 in his savings account.
Then he asked the woman how much she has in savings.
And the woman has $70,000 in savings.
It's like fucking pay up.
I don't know.
I know.
I have a feeling she's not going to give any of that to her relationship or that man.
Pasty George Derby.
Pasty George, thank you, sir.
Some men in the world love overweight Toro Beast women, but not the majority.
Just the thought of doing it with a 400-pound whale of a woman makes me sick.
I think most of the chat would agree with me.
So then don't have sex with a 400-pound woman.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, that's like that is a fetish.
So I think it does kind of also boil down to like hygiene and stuff.
Like, it gets gross.
George donated $200.
You just watched it.
In the picture, the woman on the left is ugly as fack.
I would never be able to get hard for her, let alone kiss her, even if my life depended on it.
I would rather kick the bucket LMFAO.
I don't know if I would go that far.
I'll take one for the team.
That was a little funny.
I'm going to survive.
I'm not going to end my life over it.
Oh, man.
I'm going to have.
I'm going to need therapy, though.
No.
Multiple years.
CPTSD or whatever.
£120 is better looking than the £300 7.
Are they 7 to you?
Charles Sterling.
Thank you, Charles.
And then Grantler, thank you.
It looks like you bought a hoodie.
Shop.whatever.com.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
You had a question.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
If the girl on the left will ball for you, but a girl on the right wouldn't ball for you, but you like her better, which one will you go to?
The question is: Oh my god.
Sorry.
Clean that up, please.
Felicity.
Will you hold up to your standard or will you go to the next one?
Here the looks.
There's a paper towel right back here.
Sorry, I'm distracted here.
The woman on the right, if I had to choose the woman on the right.
Then your standard doesn't really matter then.
Like, ball for you when you go home.
Because as long as she's attractive, as long as she's good-looking, she doesn't need to ball.
People make all sorts of compromises when it comes to like nobody's perfect.
You're not going to get every single thing that you want in a relationship.
You know, it's really rude.
The woman who spilled it ain't cleaning it up.
But, anyways, we got a girl who didn't not even involve in the accident.
Clean that shit up.
So, sorry, what's your question?
Like, your standard doesn't matter because you will go to the attractive women anyway if you got to pick, if she will also pick up.
Yeah, but I'm not going to throw away all of my expectations.
Like, yeah, that woman on the right is really beautiful and good looking, but if she's like abusive or like terrible person, not abusive, just wouldn't bow.
Just wouldn't bow?
Yeah, that's fine.
Then, your number one rule of dating to bow to you doesn't matter then because you can't give it up.
No, here, I'll explain it like this: you gave me an option to pick between two women.
Would I suppose would I be dissatisfied with the fact that she's not willing to meet certain standards that I have?
Sure, but when the choice is between two women, and obviously, when we're looking at who we're going to date, we're looking at the totality of everything.
So, you know, one person might not measure up in like X way, but they measure up to the degree to which you're willing to date them.
So, she won't bow?
Okay, whatever.
The looks matter more.
So, guys, in general, yes, okay, hold on.
Yes, if a woman is, that woman is like a I'm not trying to be mean, she's like a one.
The woman on the right's like at least a solid nine.
The looks matter and looks like a matter of fact.
No, she doesn't.
Yeah, look, well, no.
Other standard, whatever.
Well, I'll tell you this: like, okay.
If a woman, even if she's insanely beautiful, like we were talking about this, if she was a murderer, for example, or she just was like a terrible person, bitchy, bad attitude, treated me poorly, I don't care how beautiful she is.
Some guys will put up with that shit, especially for beauty, because beauty, look, is currency.
For me, though, I do have certain expectations of what I want in a woman, and I don't care how fucking pretty you are, don't care.
If you're not acting in a certain appropriate way, don't care.
I ain't gonna put up with that shit.
But a lot of men will simp for a beautiful woman, not me, though.
But being beauty, being pretty is not necessary to be a murderer or something.
There's so many pretty women who's not violent.
Yeah, but there's a lot of beautiful women who are terrible people.
And there's good-looking men who are terrible people.
Maybe.
But in this case, when you're giving me the two choices are a beautiful woman, but she won't bow.
Yeah.
And the woman on the left, who's not beautiful, who will bow.
We just found out beauty outweighs standard, whatever dating.
Not always.
Looks like so.
Like, beauty is more important than bow to you.
The logic is a bit incoherent.
That's how you put the way of prostitutes.
You say those girls, they only value money, but not.
No, it's not only money.
Those guys whoever are willing to provide for her not only have money, they also are polite and they have, they are very well educated.
They can contribute a lot more than money.
Well, again, the hypothetical you posed to me had two options.
Right?
Yeah.
So I'm not willing to sacrifice like eight or nine points in attractiveness for the bow.
Not willing to do it.
But I might sacrifice like one point.
Like, okay, I can deal a modern, how about this?
She's a six, but she's completely submissive, feminine, meets my standards, etc.
Or a seven, who's a feminist boss babe, blah, blah, blah, who wants 50-50, claims she wants 50-50 partnership, probably would lean towards the six over the seven.
But also like what she said, the seven based on your standards were based on the majority standards because maybe people have different perspectives.
Right, but it would be my standard.
You're asking me who I would date.
Yeah.
Right.
I think in general men are going to avoid the headache.
This sounds like you would compromise something over the standards.
And if you got a like luxury to pick, if you got that many girls are available for you.
Well, yeah, I think we all do compromises in this case.
Yeah.
So in this case, if a woman was so phenomenal that, but her one thing, ah, Brian, you know, the battle is kind of weird, whatever, I'm not going to do it.
But she's phenomenal or whatever.
I'm like, okay.
People are way more complicated.
It's not only one standards, also for, I say for any girls.
How can you just separate prostitutes and all the other girls who doesn't do sex for money?
They all got standards and it's all wrapped up, very complicated.
So I think that's the problem.
She's not going to Felicity clean up Chair 2's mess.
Chair 2 failed big time.
share it his base although the napkins are right by her and you did tell felicity to do it but i don't know why you guys see it's always stupid should they say in the chat Most of the time.
It's always stupid shit.
As long as he's not my sponsor, it doesn't matter.
But if he's my sponsor, I'm going to apologize.
I'm going to do all the things to try to smooth him out.
I'm very resolved.
I think you should just try to be a better guest and clean up your own mess.
Yeah.
Girl.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, girls.
Wait, what was your thing?
You had something else you wanted to say?
Oh, yeah.
So I think that men will settle for a girl who has nine out of the ten qualities that they want, but a girl will make the mistake and leave the guy with the nine out of the ten qualities for the guy that has the one quality they're missing.
It's true.
And then they wonder why they're miserable afterwards.
Well, there was.
It's about equal, men and women, yeah.
Or maybe men a little worse, but about equal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like they're all just like heavy, heavy, heavy heavy generalizations.
Like you literally can't just, I don't know.
I mean, like, right, like you can't group two people and be like, they're all like this or they're all like this.
I mean, in general, it would be not smart too.
Okay.
So I guess again, why can't why aren't average looking women, why can't they just say that they're average looking?
It's because they got different standards.
Yeah.
If I don't think that I'm a 10, then how am I going to want to try and get with a 10 if I'm not thinking that I'm a 10?
I mean, legitimately, like, why would you view yourself as anything less than a 10?
And I don't mean in like a conceited way, but in a confident way.
Like, like, you know, like.
Wait, so your logic is, if I don't view myself as a 10, how am I going to get a 10?
I mean, yeah, essentially.
Because if I hate myself, I'm only going to attract people that probably hate me too.
You can have a reasonable self-assessment of how you look and not hate yourself.
You can be like, yeah, you know what?
I'm average looking, but I'm fine with being average.
But also, I even delusional, like just because you're delusional doesn't mean you're going to get the guy who's a 10.
Like just because I'm OK.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Let's say, can a woman, like, clearly not be a 10?
I mean, it goes back to what I said earlier about being subjective.
Here, this girl right here, is she a 10?
In some countries, the one on the right would be murdered.
In some places.
Yeah, don't go to Somalia.
Thank you for that.
So anyways, the one on the left, is she a 10?
In my opinion, for what I believe in.
Yeah, what you believe in.
I mean, like, it's subjective.
Like, what would you write from what my subjects are?
What is your subjective?
What do you personally find attractive?
I would not call her a 10, but I wouldn't call the person on the right a 10 either.
Okay, what would you, what would you give them both?
I don't feel comfortable rating people like that because I don't think I'd really do that in general.
Like, I don't know, like, if I do that with men, skinny guy, yes, preference.
We're talking about preference, not putting a number on somebody.
That's different.
That's kind of what you're doing.
But that's not what I'm saying.
Okay, we're talking about rating someone on a scale from one to ten.
Like, but that's my thing, though, is when we're talking about weight, I'm like, okay, I prefer someone who's more muscular over someone who's skinnier.
That's just like factual, right?
But like, like, giving like it's an arbitrary number, it doesn't mean anything.
Like, I don't know, an eight holds different weight for me than it might hold for somebody else.
Like, again, all of this is just so like arbitrary.
Let's say you would agree that there are ugly women, though.
I think that there's ugly people.
Yes, there's ugly men.
What I think is ugly, though, is going to be different from what she thinks is ugly, but she thinks that's what I think.
Sure, that's fine.
But whatever you think is ugly, you do acknowledge there are ugly people, ugly women, ugly men.
In my opinion, yes.
Okay.
I think in general that everyone probably wants to be.
What if this ugly person is holding out for Brad Pitt?
Like Brad Pitt when he was young.
And, like, I have seen women with some atrocities of boyfriends, genuinely.
I've seen the reverse too.
Well, and that's exactly my point.
So, like, what?
Like, I don't know if someone who is conventionally unattractive is holding out for like high school Brad Pitt.
Like, I don't know.
That's your prerogative.
If you think high school Brad Pitt will give it up to you, maybe you will.
Do you think if you're desirous of getting into a long-term relationship and having like a healthy relationship, maybe getting married one day, maybe having kids, if that's your desire, don't you think, like, if that's your goal, you need to go about that in a like pragmatic, realistic way?
Otherwise, you're not going to ever get that which you want.
Well, the realistic way to go about that would be to view yourself in a good light, right?
Like, to love yourself and accept yourself and be okay independently and like be confident in your own like, I don't know.
Like, can I ask you a question?
Do you think that there are men who do you think that there are men who think they're more attractive than they actually are?
Yes.
And they're cocky.
And they have a big ego.
Absolutely.
Do you know a guy who thinks he's hot shit, but he's not?
Yes.
And I also know a woman, but I also know a woman who's a lot of people.
Could women be like that too?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, anybody could be like that.
But you have all fallen victim to that very thing with which you've just acknowledged is a thing that happens.
But yeah, we're all skinny and we're white, like you said, was the 10.
That's not where you don't look anything like the girl.
Okay, just because you're a white doesn't make you a 10.
So here's my thing, though, is like, I'm not, like I said earlier, I'm not talking about cocky.
I'm not talking about I'm hot shit.
I'm talking about I love myself and I genuinely think that I'm beautiful.
I think that I'm a 10 because I do.
Okay.
The same way that if you came up to me and you told me you think you're a 10, I'm not going to debate you on that.
If that's how you feel about yourself, then like more power to you.
But then so what did it, what does it mean to be cocky?
It means you think, no, it means you think you're better than you actually are.
No, because also.
I think it's more you think that you're better than other people.
That's the problem.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I think I think highly of myself as an individual, as a person.
When it comes to me comparatively to the next person, like that's unrealistic because I don't know.
Like, yeah, I probably think that I'm like less than compared to that.
Here, let me ask you this then.
Do you think that the guy who's like obese, lives in his mother's basement, plays video games all day, smokes weed, smokes cigarettes, Cheeto dust in his fucking belly button makes him unattractive.
Hold on.
But he believes that he's a 10.
Can he get a 10, a woman who's a 10, who's a supermodel?
I think the behavioral.
Can he answer my question before you go on some more prattle?
No.
Answer my question.
No.
No, he can't.
No, because of the behavior and the difference in lifestyle.
That's someone with no discipline, clearly, and no drive versus someone who is disciplined and driven in their own career.
So why is it okay for women to have unrealistic standards, but not men?
They do.
When does it say?
Yeah, they do.
Everyone's going to be able to do that.
You're telling me that there are women who have made a determination that they're 10 and they're perfect.
Like their behavior is not.
When did I say that?
That's what a 10 means, right?
You're saying perfect?
Not totally, but no, we're talking about looks only.
You're saying that women should be like, I'm a 10.
Otherwise, this is what you said.
If I don't think I'm a 10, how can I get a 10?
Yeah.
Your perception, your self-perception doesn't dictate what you are to external reality.
I really disagree with that because I think that if you hate yourself and you let everything.
It's nothing to do with hate.
I mean, like, I go around and I say, I'm ugly, I'm atrocious, nobody likes me.
I'm not telling you to do that.
No, but if I do, people are going to perceive me like that.
Okay, do you acknowledge?
Hold on, stop, stop.
Do you acknowledge that there are average-looking women?
Objectively.
Can women look, be average-looking?
How many times do I have to answer this question?
Objectively, yes.
Like, I've said yes.
I'm acknowledging the fact that it's true.
So should they, but should a people have different truths.
Under your framework, should an average-looking woman, should she think she's a 10 or should she, you're, you're making it into this thing of she hates herself, she thinks she's ugly.
No, what if she's just like, I'm an average-looking girl?
Which of the two should she do?
But what if I do?
I'm average.
What do I keep going back to, though?
Is that what is average?
Because that's objective.
That is subjective.
My average is different than somebody else's average.
So if me look around the table.
Look around the fucking table.
You got a bunch of average-looking women all around you, bro.
I mean, I get disagree.
Yes, really.
I disagree with that.
I agree with that.
I don't agree with that.
Yes, really.
I don't agree with that at all.
Okay, I know I'm breaking your rule.
Megan Fox is like melting yourself.
There's not many girls that look.
Most of the girls that look good, they had surgeries too.
Like almost every single day.
That is almost every point, though.
It's like we're being comparative to people that aren't real.
I mean, not even not real, but like one in a million.
It's like, I'm not afraid of that.
Okay, that's fine, but that's why I'm not.
I'm not going to look like Megan Fox.
I don't have Megan Fox money to take care of myself.
I'm a five or a six.
But I don't think that I am.
I don't think she is.
You think you're a talented person?
I don't think she's a five.
On top of that, if I had like Megan Fox money to be able to take care of myself like that, to be able to look at every day, like and do that.
Plastic surgery doesn't do that.
Hey, I'm not saying plastic surgery.
I mean money to be able to like afford like really nice, expensive, luxury skincare and like being able to like get a massage and like go to the gym.
Like things like that cost.
That's not going to turn a two into a nine.
It doesn't.
You're a guy that takes care of himself, like his beard and how he shaves.
Literally, if I showed up here, right, looking like this versus if I showed up here how I look this morning, rolling out of bed, objectively.
Yeah, we get it.
You're wearing fake lashes.
You've got makeup on.
You've done that.
Some guys might like eyebrows.
I think I'm a 10, regardless of how I looked when I roll out of bed.
Wait, so you're a 10 even before the makeup?
Yes.
Why would you put on makeup?
Because I love myself and I wanted to look a little different.
Oh my God.
Because I wanted to put fake lashes on.
You know why I almost never wear lashes?
That's great.
If makeup has a tendency to improve one's physical appearance, then surely you couldn't be a 10 prior to the makeup.
Even if I grant it.
That's not true.
Why do you do makeup?
Because I started doing it at 11 as like face paint.
Even if I granted that you're a 10 in your current state, which you're not.
Okay.
You would not be a 10 without the makeup then.
I disagree.
Then why would you, if you're a 10 and then it's still.
People think that makeup makes women look less attractive.
Yep.
Yeah, I do.
And we get that on the show.
So if I'm only putting on makeup to make, which I'm not, then like, what?
Yeah, she's doing it for her, not guys approval.
Well, and either way, like, most of us know that they don't like it.
Realistically, I do do it for me because nine times out of ten, I don't wear makeup.
But I felt like wearing makeup today.
Got up early, had time to do it, decided to.
It's been a couple weeks.
But regardless of that.
Yes, I thought it was the 10 when I rolled out of bed this morning.
Was down to earth, had no baggage, and didn't believe in feminism.
But she wouldn't bow for me.
Nick, we're going to pull some stuff up.
Don't be an attarded chair too.
Yo, Pasty.
Thank you, man.
She wouldn't bow for me.
I would choose her.
Okay.
Decent looks, little nobody count, was down to earth.
But she wouldn't bow for me, I would choose her.
Yeah, I mean.
How can I say he's the biggest contributor to you to this show, to this podcast?
He's got casino money.
Ooh, congratulations, Pasty.
You should go for him.
There's just no point to, you know, upset him because he's helping this.
Oh, watch.
Check this shit out.
Fuck you, Pasty.
Fuck you, Pasty.
You agree.
You piece of shit.
I mean, you fucking Canadian.
He has to be enjoying it.
He's been sitting here.
I'm going to burn the Canadian flag on the pot.
See, check that shit out.
I just talk mad shit to Pasty.
But still, you show them respect every time you read his comments out loud and pause this long time for him.
That's what you want.
He's a patron of the show.
Yes.
The show's for the fans.
That's whoever do to their patrons.
That's whoever do to their patrons.
Yeah, but if somebody sent in a message that I disagreed with, they're like, oh, the earth is flat, or I don't know, something about dating.
They're just like, well, they sent in 200 or whatever.
And they're like, you know, me personally, I prefer, you know, women who've done porn and blah, blah, blah.
I'd be like, nah, nah, I wouldn't just agree with it just because they're sending in a super chat.
In this case, me and Pasty happen to agree on quite a bit, quite a lot.
What a coincidence.
I happen to have that.
Bro, if I was actually audience captured, I would be here saying I'm an Orthodox Christian.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
True.
I'm fine with Christianity.
I'm cool with Christianity.
I'm not an anti-theist.
But if I really wanted a grift, I'd just lie and be like, yeah, you know, I'm a.
A lot of coincidence.
You have common space with the past, what's it called?
Pasty.
Pasty?
The George.
What's the coincidence?
Coincidence is a good question.
You have common space with him.
A lot of space space.
You have common space.
Wow, it's a conspiracy.
This is a trans-Atlantic.
Wait.
A trans-Canadian conspiracy.
I didn't hear anything.
You disagreed with him.
So I said, that's coincident.
You agree with every comment he dropped.
He hasn't said anything wrong so far.
So that's not a coincidence.
You're right.
It's just a conspiracy.
I'm simping for Pacey George.
I'm sure Pacey George could send some shit in that I disagree with.
Like, for example, maybe we should annex Canada.
I'm waiting to see.
Maybe Canada shouldn't be a country.
I'm waiting to see.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding about that.
But I'm sure he would disagree.
He'd be like, no, we like our sovereignty.
Why are you just kidding?
Own it.
If you really think that way, own it.
Own what?
Whatever you really think.
Don't say something then say, just kidding.
Oh, it's.
I mean, that's why that.
Do they have jokes in China?
I'm just waiting to see.
I'm just waiting to see if there's any disagreement you have with me.
All right, Pasty.
We need the hot takes.
We need the hot takes.
What's your controversial opinion?
Just more comments.
Just Buddy Ninja donated $200.
Just because you open your legs for a 10 does not make you a 10.
Oh, that's not true.
Most men will be down for anything if you open your legs.
The reason I push back on this so much is that just because a guy will dick you down doesn't mean he'll wife you up.
So women have access to men outside their league.
The reverse really is not the case.
And so when women are delusional, when women are delusional and think that they're more attractive than they actually are, you can get limited access to a guy who's really attractive or meets whatever your metrics of attraction are.
You can sleep with that guy.
Just because you can sleep with a guy doesn't mean you can get in a relationship with him.
Doesn't mean he'll give you commitment.
Doesn't mean he'll give you the ring, right?
Maybe you guys know this from experience.
Maybe has it ever been the case that you wanted a particular guy to be your boyfriend and you slept with him, but he didn't want anything more?
There's a difference here.
Typically, like, for example, as a guy, if I can sleep with a girl, if I can sleep with a girl, I have a high level of confidence.
I can get her into a relationship.
I don't think women can be as confident as it relates to this.
Like, digmatize her?
Digmatize her?
Like, you know, when you like give her such good sex that she's not.
It's not even about the sex, but it's more so men and women are different, right?
Like, here's for, here's an example.
When guys pursue casual sex, they'll sleep with a girl that just on the basis of her looks alone, like they'll sleep with a woman who they don't find commitment level attractive, right?
So, and I'm talking about looks, right?
So, just on that basis alone, like, a guy will sleep with a girl, use her for sex, whatever, but she's just not attractive enough that he would ever be in a relationship with her.
But typically, when women sleep with men, typically, not again, I'm not a monolith here.
For a woman to sleep with a guy, he typically has to be at least attractive enough physically that she would be in a relationship with him.
So, this creates a bit of a differential here.
It's fucked up on the guys and more, but yes.
Well, yeah, look, my personal perspective is you shouldn't be having sex with someone you don't want a relationship with.
Yeah, sure, I agree with that.
I don't think you should be like men who are just running through girls with no intention of like anything more.
I don't think anybody should move like that, whether you're a man or woman.
I think people should be a bit more intentional.
I'm not saying you got to be a virgin and wait until marriage or whatever, but at least be a bit more intentional with who you choose to sleep with.
But the difference is, like I said, women, you can sleep with men outside your league.
Like, women will break the rule the opposite way.
If a woman is otherwise relationship-minded, but she's like going to have a casual sexual encounter or one-night stand, he better be really attractive.
Like, if she's going to just fuck a guy once, he's got to be really attractive.
Whereas men are like the opposite.
If a guy's just trying to bust a nut, he's just looking for a girl who's willing and not really like obviously you ideal, ideally, the guy's like, well, it would be great if she's attractive too, but men will go the opposite way.
They'll just sleep with a girl just on her looks alone.
He would never be in a relationship with her, but he's trying to bust a nut.
And so, this is why I think it's important for women to be realistic because but just physical looks alone is not realistic whatsoever.
It's not.
I mean, in that sense, just sex, but again, that's just a shitty person.
You don't want to be associated with that person anyway, so why would we care?
We don't want to be associated with those guys anyway.
But yeah, but knowing that I'm not saying it's a good thing, but knowing that men, some men, move in this way where they will sleep with you and have no intention just on your looks alone.
Look, I get that people do like casual hookups, whatever, friends with benefits, one night stands, whatever.
But just on your looks alone, he would never consider you for a relationship.
He just wants, he's just using you for your pussy, basically.
Not saying it's the right thing to do, but knowing that men do that, I think it's reasonable to come at things with like no, why we don't want to appease them at all, those type of guys.
But what I'm saying is, as women, to protect yourselves, you got to think, am I dealing with a guy?
Like, am I dealing with a guy outside of my league?
And when women just wholesale start saying, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, you're not going to be able to make that determination.
You think, well, I'm a 10, so of course, this guy who's good looking or has status or is rich or whatever, of course, he wants me because I'm a 10.
I think that that's going to get commitment.
I know, but I think that bleeds into the whole premise of what I'm trying to explain thinking you're a 10 is.
Because I think if you really truly believe that you're a 10, you're not going to allow a man to disrespect you like that.
How would it, what are you talking about?
Like, what do you mean?
Like, if I really, if I really think that I'm like, right, like valuable as a person, as an individual, as a human being, and I think that I'm a 10 and I have that confidence in myself, then I don't think I'd subject myself to.
What do you mean?
How would you be able to control that?
So, you willingly hook up with a guy.
Guys do it all the time.
You willingly hook up with a guy and then you have sex with him once, two times, three times.
He's had his fill.
Hold on.
He's had his fill.
You wouldn't do that.
No.
Like, that's also just not the type of person I am.
So, just to be clear, every single guy you've had sex with always resulted in a relationship.
Yes.
You realize not all women move like that?
Yes, but so, like, not all men.
Do you have any goal of like that?
Do you have any girlfriends who have ever complained to you, oh my God, I really like this guy.
He's so attractive, but he won't commit to me.
You've never heard this phenomenon?
I mean, like, yeah, I have, but okay, why do you think that's happening?
Well, my thing that I'm trying to explain to you is those girls who have had those problems that came to me about that don't think that they're tens.
They have low self-esteem.
They don't think highly of themselves.
So if they thought they were tens, then they would get the commitment.
Just their thoughts.
That's not what I'm saying.
No, I'm saying that you.
Manifestation, it's more likely, I guess.
I mean, like, manifestate, and not even, I mean, like partly, but more in the sense of like they just don't like anything spiritual.
I don't know.
I mean, it's not even that.
The way I explain it is like, it's like self-talk, right?
Like, if I constantly tell myself, like, I'm ugly, I'm unattractive, because they're very beautiful women who think that they're ugly.
Yep.
And we see it all the time in industries.
Look, my supermodels talk about that shit in interviews, that they think that they're unattractive and they think they're ugly and they think they're innocent.
They're subjective.
A lot of tends to like insist on that.
My position is not for women to wholesale think they're ugly.
My position is for women to be realistic.
So why would you do that?
If she's average, we don't want to attract this type of guy.
Yeah.
That's it.
Like, but what if you don't think that you are?
And what if you're not?
But that's completely subjective.
It's not completely subjective.
It is.
It's not.
It's literally not.
Yes, it is.
How is it completely, but almost completely subjective?
No, it's like completely subjective.
Because it actually.
Then how would you explain universality?
But what do you mean?
I don't think there is universality.
I believe if it is the case that I could show how many people are on the planet, 8 billion, 9 billion?
I don't know what the number is.
You would agree that I could take like two men and like, again, you must think it's all subjective, but like a most beautiful man, most handsome man ever, and like a really unattractive, like, okay, I don't know.
Who's it like a male supermodel?
Trying to think who.
Nick, pull up the Discord.
I think this will be really easy to get.
It's not infinitively subjective, but in the time of that current moment of the Earth's evolution, it can be subject to the market.
Nick, we're going to do looks and then Tom Welling.
Scroll up.
Click the first photo.
So I'm going to, for the panelists here, I'm going to ask you to look at this photo, and then I'm going to just tell you to compare his looks to another man.
Okay, this is Tom Welling.
He's a bit older now.
This is when he was younger.
Next one.
Next photo.
Just tap.
Next.
Well, okay, we don't need.
Next.
All right.
That's a good-looking guy, right?
Now, Nick, Google a picture of Donald Trump.
And you can't judge him based on his politics or whatever.
Just Google Donald Trump.
Melania is married to him.
Clearly, someone thinks he's attractive.
Hold on, that's what we're arguing about here.
Also, Trump is perhaps bringing other things like status, money, etc.
Exactly.
What you keep focusing on physical, and that's not real.
All right, so I believe very strongly, very strongly, that I could show the two pictures, and I think there would be almost universal from women.
They couldn't factor in, you know, whatever.
You disagree with Trump's politics, whatever.
They would pick the first guy almost universally.
Well, I think that's part of, like, I feel like it's really hard to show a picture of Trump and not factor in.
Okay, then I'll show you somebody else then if you want to be difficult about it.
I mean, no, it's not even that.
And a lot of women would just be like a point that I feel like can't even really be argued against that guy.
shoot the the the guy who in who what's that movie with olivia wait Or the show about the Adams family?
I don't watch this shit.
Wednesday?
Wednesday.
Who's the father?
What's his name?
Oh, the father?
The uncle?
Yeah, no, what's the actor's name?
Carlos.
No, it's not Carlos.
I know it's something Ramirez, isn't it?
Luis Guzman.
Luis Guzman.
Pull up a photo.
All right, so you guys probably don't have any negative political associations with this guy.
Click the first photo, Nick.
Here, mouse wheel, make it bigger, please.
It's fine.
No, Go back, go back, go back.
Just exile that thing.
It'll just show that this is fine.
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
Okay.
Which guy's more attractive?
That guy or Tom Welling?
It's still just subjective.
If he's anything like he is on the TV show, then there's no, bro, there's based on my type of man, the first one, but the second one, when you were scrolling through, there was like pictures of him when he was like younger and he looked fine.
I think he looked like he looked better.
We're not talking.
It's not about whether he looked fine.
Fine, we could compare young Luis Guzman to Tom Welling.
I would still posit that universally 99% of women are going to pick the first guy.
I don't think so.
But my dilemma is that does that definitively mean that they are genuinely more attractive?
Because I don't.
I think that it's still somewhere.
Yeah, it's still subjective, but it's universal.
Objective is 100% of people would choose the male model over Luis.
That's no, even it would still be subjective.
It would still be subjective.
It would have to be fact for it to be objective.
But these aren't strictly.
What I'm trying to say is it's not strictly objective or subjective.
I think it's.
I think it's mostly subjective.
No, it's not.
Well, the reason is.
Beauty is not.
Hold on.
Beauty is not objective in this strict philosophical sense, but it's not purely subjective either.
Again, if we're talking about universal aesthetics, then it does point to it being grounded in some objective components.
But like it's things though that I mean, like if we're talking about like baseline, I mean like, yeah, like what, like symmetry, like certain things like that.
Symmetry.
Like if that's the basis of it, then like, yeah, that's just like science, like whatever.
But like with everything, I know, but like so that's if something is measurable, if there's measurable traits, that can be grounded in objective components.
Like for example, so no one has a soul and we all just like get things generally speaking.
Do women assess male attract like when it comes to height?
Like being taller is more attractive, generally speaking?
I mean, honestly, I'm not going to lie to you.
No.
And the only reason I say this is because I feel like every time this gets brought up around, like whenever I see a group of women talk about this, nine times out of ten, like most women are like, no, I really don't care.
Like they're just like a little taller than me or like my height.
And it's like not that big of a deal.
Like I don't know women that go out and are like, you're not 6'5?
I don't think so.
Yeah, that's a great extreme example you've given.
But I would say, for example, most women have a preference towards dating a man who's taller than them.
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think a lot of men have a preference for dating women that are shorter than them.
Men don't care.
Most men probably care.
Men care far less.
They're more heightened.
Usually, I feel like nowadays.
Men care way less about height than women.
Dude, I get called tall by an obnoxious amount, which is also absurd because that doesn't disprove the point.
But okay.
It's about equal.
I don't know why we pretend like it's not.
But yeah, that's the other thing.
It's like we're arguing, well, when this woman, well, like both of us, like, I don't know.
Like, we all just have our issues.
I feel like that's just individuals, like, people, like, I don't know.
I just don't understand what about being like realistic towards yourself makes you insecure.
I think it would make you really secure as a person to acknowledge your realistic flaws that you have.
Still, you guys aren't adults.
Stop cutting me out.
You guys aren't adults.
And appreciate yourself as a human, but also being realistic, acknowledging that you have flaws.
Maybe there's things that you can work on you can do better.
Be humble.
But you guys are only basing it off of looks, then that's exactly what you're doing, both of you.
Because there's my thing is if we're talking about realistic, I know.
If we're talking about bettering yourself, I know.
If we're talking about bettering yourself as a human being, like personally, then yeah, that's different than what we're talking about.
What I'm talking about is...
You could be bettering yourself physically too.
I mean, now we're going off topic.
rather.
Hold on.
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Mary doesn't know that those are computing response era right now.
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Go grab.
Probably is an AI at this point.
Yo, Pacey George, thank you, man.
We're going to do a champagne run.
We're a little delayed on that, but we'll get to it.
Thank you, Pacey George.
Well put.
Oh, he's actually an AI.
Is he?
Apparently.
Oh shit, Arturo member for 31 months.
Thank you, man.
Okay, we have some chats coming through.
Charles, what's up?
Did you grab two?
Yeah, just grab two.
Panel, would you date Ryan Reynolds or Joseph Carrie Merrick, also known as the Elephant Man?
Nick, can you Google both those guys?
I didn't even wait for the second one.
I know who.
I know Ryan Reynolds, but I've got a whole bunch of pull out.
Wait, elephant man?
Images?
Ooh, okay.
Is it fair to do to include deformity, though?
I don't know.
I think that that's fair.
That is a fair logo.
Let's just say he's the elephant man.
He's severely deformed.
I don't know if it's in good taste.
I feel like that's me.
Chat is in bad taste to pull it up.
How about Peanut from Goonies versus Ryan Reynolds?
Because that's a fictional character.
Pull it up.
Who cares?
I mean, there's a Wikipedia page about it, so it's like.
I think some people.
Wait, some people are saying bad taste?
I don't know.
Well, because I feel like if someone has like facial deformities, you're probably not.
He's dead.
Yeah, we'll skip it.
Let's just say he's really deformed.
Who here would date Ryan Reynolds instead?
Oh my God, these girls.
Wait, but Ryan Reynolds?
Yeah, WP.
Thank you for the champagne pop.
We're going to get to it in just a moment.
Thank you.
Pasty.
Joshua, I find it adorable that these women assume they know a man's intentions before he executes them.
That's like a man saying he knows exactly what a woman is thinking.
It's just not realistic.
Yeah.
Oh, is this in relation to what Chair One said about she would never let a guy da da da?
It's like, okay.
Okay.
Oh, going around the table.
Going around the table.
Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
You're 19, better looking at 29.
Quick answers, please.
I mean, maybe.
Yeah, hopefully.
What about 20 years, 39?
Hopefully.
I mean, if I look at the moment.
Yeah, what do you think?
If I look like my mom, then yes.
Yeah, like, hopefully, I'm better looking at 100.
But I think I'm not.
I mean, I don't know what I'm like, my type is going to be like what I would view as attractive right now.
Probably is the same as over 10, 20, 30 year periods.
Do people age?
I mean, like, yeah.
Okay.
So will you be better looking at 39?
Like I said, if I look like my mom, then yeah.
30 years, 49.
Better looking than now?
Yeah.
I mean, like, what?
50 years, 61.
This is so subjective because I think aging is not.
I think aging is beautiful.
Aging is objective.
So how could it be subjective?
I'm saying, like, I mean, whether or not I think they're attractive.
Why do they call it forever 21 and not forever 51?
It's bankrupt, so I don't know.
It doesn't exist anymore.
Wait, why, when women put on makeup or they get plastic surgery, are they aiming to make themselves look closer to how they looked when they were younger?
Like, why aren't there plastic surgeries to make women looking at?
Because men prefer women to look at them.
Even women want to look.
Well, hold on.
Okay, now you're making it.
Yeah, that's not even true.
We're talking about young, we're talking about adult.
You want to pathologize this, but it's women.
So you're saying the women themselves are engaging in like pedophilia, basically?
There's a lot.
I mean, honestly, that hike has been a problem.
I feel like it's like women catering to put yeah, women catering to like pedophiles online has been like a big issue.
So women who wear makeup and get plastic surgery to like cover up signs of aging are like appealing to that's one way to twist what I was saying.
That's literally what you said.
No, it's not.
That's what you said.
It's not.
You're like, these women do it for the male gaze because men are pedophiles.
No, I'm not saying women do it for men.
I'm saying women.
You said women get surgery to look like their younger selves.
And I said, sorry, women get self-defense.
Younger could entail when you look at them.
So you look like their younger selves.
Yeah, a 40-year-old woman could be like, I wish I looked more how I looked like when I was 20.
But you know, Damo, when you're wording it like that, I'm not going to think of like a 40-year-old wanting to look like she did when she was like 25.
Like, no, like when you're saying it like that, I don't know.
What?
It's still a little bit of a drink.
Okay, that's completely incomprehensible, but okay.
Yeah, most women are not trying to look how they looked when they were like 10.
Yeah.
And if they're trying to do that, that says more about them than it would about.
Which some do.
Just as babies.
Okay.
So when do you think you'll peak in terms of your looks?
I don't know.
Okay.
Let's just do a hundred.
Will you be better looking at 100?
Probably not.
I mean, okay, what's the difference?
Probably not.
I probably look like I'm on my deathbed.
I feel like looking like I'm not aware.
So when's the peak?
You think 40, 50?
I don't know, like 30, maybe.
30.
Are you naturally a ginger?
No.
Pale skin.
I don't know.
Typically doesn't do well with the sun.
I have EDS, so I'm like chronically ill.
I probably won't look too hot.
Stress can age people.
Yeah, but we'll do that.
You're 25.
Will you be better looking in 10 years at 35?
I'd say probably 29, 30 will be the peak.
Well, go.
Sure.
You're 18, better looking in 10 years' time at 28.
Probably not.
I just hope to feel and still look like it.
You're 24.
Will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
34?
I believe so, because my mom had me really young, and she's like 43 now, 44, and she looks great.
So hopefully I look like that.
Just to be clear, the question isn't, like, you can still be attractive and good looking at 30, 40, et cetera, et cetera.
It's just, will you be better looking?
Better looking in 20 years' time at 44.
Yeah.
30 years' time, 54?
Probably not.
Okay.
You're 18, better looking in 10 years' time?
Yeah.
Into the mic.
Yeah.
20 years' time?
No.
Okay.
25, better looking in 10 years' time?
Oh, me?
Oh, yeah.
At 35?
Yeah.
20 years' time, 45?
45?
Probably not.
You're 27, better looking in 10 years' time, 37.
Yeah.
47?
No.
24, better looking in 10 years' time, 37?
No.
All right, we have put all of you through AI age advancement, and we are going to see some real MILFs here.
All right.
Nick, you ready to pull that up?
Yep.
All right, go for it.
Or yeah, here.
Oh, wow.
Oh, yeah.
Oh.
Looks like you smoked cigarettes your whole life.
Lovely.
Oh, that's bad.
Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you right now that looks nothing like my mom's.
So there's that.
You're going to have to zoom it out, okay, Nick?
Zoom out?
Yeah.
Okay, you're still eating, though.
Oh my gosh.
You look right.
I said that's a good picture.
Yeah, I'm not going next.
Oh, I know.
Oh.
That is far.
He looks good.
I feel like he's really like he's good to know.
AI's had something against us.
I took some MILF.
All right.
She's shocked.
All right.
Next.
Her life flashed before her.
Like, fuck.
That's my future.
All right.
Oh.
I don't know.
Who said that?
That looks good.
I don't know.
It's still cute to see you.
This is what the future holds.
It's okay.
We all age.
Why is it?
It's natural.
Next.
Okay.
Okay, that's actually terrible.
Yeah, why isn't that?
Oh, what's with the saturation?
Yeah.
She looks like one of the cougars at my local board.
What's with the saturation like?
Wait, I look like an evil witch.
I mean, checks out.
It's actually me and Mama look like witches.
Oh, my God.
All right, next.
That's awesome.
Oh, God.
Yep.
Wait, wait, go back.
Go back home.
It's serving.
I feel like you teach a mean yoga class.
I liked it better than that.
Like genius value.
Next.
Oh, you're just kidding.
Oh, no.
Not at all.
Thank God.
Thank God.
I'm going to be a cute old lady.
Next.
Oh, no.
Oh, whoops.
Oh, no.
I look like a man.
I look cute.
next oh yeah that's hot Eating looking.
Next.
Okay.
Use the mold.
Oh, I love that.
Santa Claus.
Oh, my God.
Doesn't look like my dad's turn in the Santa a little bit.
I am fucking Santa Claus.
You got the rosy cheeks.
Ho-ho.
Yeah, why is the saturation?
My saturation was so bad.
I'm kind of red.
All right, that's cool.
Oh, do a little bit better next time.
And speaking of AI, we've also put all of you through gender swap.
Oh, I love this one.
I look really good as a male.
I already know my brother.
We have transformed every single one of you into a man.
A hot dude.
Maybe.
We'll have to see about that one.
99% sure it'll be a hot dude.
Do we have the champagne, by the way?
All right.
Bring me like a paper towel and see these two bottles.
Well, hold on.
25, 25.
We got some.
Okay.
Just put it right here.
Can you take these two for me?
Just grab it from here.
Here, I'm going to get that going in just a sec.
All right.
Ready?
Nick?
So ready.
Oh.
Ooh, la la.
See, I was going to say it's like 50-50.
I feel like man sometimes.
Yeah.
Would you date yourself?
Yeah, would you date yourself?
Dude, you know what?
The only reason I'm saying no right now is because I look like my dad in the future.
Oh, like I look exactly like my dad in those.
Isn't that what people normally go after those?
Dude.
Oh, don't tell me that.
So you would not date yourself?
Only because I look like my father.
Like dead, like dead.
Yeah, that will be the question.
Would you date yourself next?
Oh, yeah, I'm getting into hot nerves.
Yo, girls.
No, me.
I like the last one.
He's loud.
He's mad.
He's cute.
He's cute.
He'd protect me on a walk.
He looks like he's an IT guy.
Would you date him?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, only because I. You don't like Asian guys?
No.
So racist.
I mean, it's normal to not like your race sometimes.
No, that is not normal.
It's not.
I know I'm coaxing.
I don't want to.
Wait, hold on.
I'll explain why it's.
I'll explain why it's not normal.
Seriously.
So hold on.
I'll explain why it's definitely not normal.
So for the vast majority of human history, you never even saw a different race.
Like, think about back hundreds of years ago, just hundreds of years ago.
You didn't leave your village, you didn't leave your town, you didn't leave your city.
All the people, and there wasn't like multiculturalism or any of this shit.
If you lived in China 200 years ago, you probably never saw a white person ever.
Oh, my terribles melt white either.
But if you were not attracted to your own race, you can't date outside of your race.
So you basically remove yourself from the gene pool.
Like I guess it depends on the degree to which you're not attracted to your own race.
I guess you could just like do it out of duty or some shit.
But yeah, it's not, it's abnormal to not be attracted to your own race.
Because if that was the case for all of human history, if people just weren't attracted to their own race, that's who you were around.
So you would have like a race that wasn't attracted to their own race would breed themselves or not breed themselves like into extinction.
Okay, it's not, I'm not attracted to Asians.
It will take a lot.
I'm not attracted to the majority.
So Asian men have to make up for it.
Not make up, but like they have to go above and beyond.
But like very masculine, not Asian, Asian.
You look like a very masculine man in that photo.
Very rugged.
Yeah, like you could get your hands dirty on the weekends.
Damn.
I don't know.
Anyways, so you wouldn't date him, though.
This one, though.
Okay.
All right.
Ooh.
Did we all just like ourselves a beard?
This is the last one.
The last one with the beard.
Would you date him?
With the beard.
Can I see it again?
Yeah, sure.
I could get down with the beard.
Yeah, the beard looks really good.
She's so young because all the girls are cute.
It's cute.
The hair is great hair.
Yeah, amazing hair.
Fucking.
Look at that handsome little beard.
You wouldn't know.
You only date white guys?
No, it's just I don't.
He's not feminine enough.
He's not gay.
He's not like possibly gay.
I don't know.
The one on the longer hair.
Not your type.
Look at that.
He's got very feminine haircut.
Oh, yeah.
That's your type, right?
Is that a feminine haircut?
I don't really consider that a feminine haircut.
I feel like it's like a very masculine.
It's like getting very cute.
Like, I don't know.
If you can find a haircut on Miley Cyrus, it's a girl's haircut.
You can date him.
All right.
Next.
Oh.
Oh, man.
It's the duck face.
It's the man making a duck face for me.
That's a tough one.
Would you date him?
No.
Aw.
What do you rate him on a scale of one to ten?
Like a fly.
Like a what?
Like a fly.
That's the male version of you, though.
I think the face.
Yeah, it looks a little gay.
All right.
Next.
Mine never looks.
That's not how I would look like that.
I would have curly hair, the last one looks good.
The middle one looks good.
I would have really curly English.
You learn, like, why am I bald?
Honestly, they did you see that.
Who does that look like?
He looks like an actor.
I'm trying to put my finger on it.
He does look really famous, though.
I know.
The rock?
He kind of looks like the rocks.
Not even my dad.
Almost like key.
So would you date him?
Would you date him?
Well, that's.
Okay, first of all, that's not how I would look like if I was a guy, but no, I wouldn't.
Yeah.
I mean, look at the lips.
Look at the nose.
Look at the eyes.
From the photo, that's not what my nose looks like.
The cheeks.
It's pretty like, that's not what my nose looks like.
It's just the dooder version of your nose.
Okay, well, whatever.
They masculinized your nose in these case.
But I would also have curly, if with curly hair, like curly hair.
Yeah.
I was going to say, maybe not.
He got no hair.
You don't know if it's curly or not.
I don't know.
I know I'm not going to like.
Oh, God.
First of all, why is my picture so blurry?
Yeah, I don't know why it does that.
Oh, Lord.
Guys, it's fucking.
I actually look like Brian.
It keeps making me look like you.
You actually look like my cousin, though.
You actually look like my cousin, though.
I have to say that.
All right, that's great.
Would you like me?
I know, no, because it looks like my cousin.
And that's not what I look like as a guy.
I agree.
I don't think I'd look like that either.
Whoa, Rico Suave over there.
It is Rico.
I don't think she would look like that as a guy.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
Yeah, no, definitely not.
Bro, I don't know.
That middle photo was pretty convincing.
She would not look like that as a guy.
Would you date him?
No, definitely not.
Okay.
All right.
Something that's harsher for you.
Next.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, he's cute.
I'd date that guy.
For sure.
He is cute.
Okay.
Next.
I don't know.
You look the guy I'd have a crush on in high school.
Adorable.
Oh, it's so cute.
Next.
Oh, man.
You look such a pretty girl, both of you.
With the long hair.
Because they're such pretty girls.
Yeah, they're all pretty.
I guess you guys showed us.
Make the photo bigger.
I would date the girl on the bottom.
Oh, yeah.
The girl on the top kind of scares me.
I'm fucking scared of her.
Shit.
Oh, the champagne, of course.
Sean Paul, I put my glasses on the counter.
I'm really sorry.
Blurry, terrible picture.
That's about to fall.
Felicity, if you can grab it.
It's the ice pack that never, I don't know.
Okay, I need to take a bit of a moment to open this champagne bottle.
Are we going to spray it?
No.
Those of you who are over 21, who wants champagne?
Who rocks?
Champagne?
I'm driving.
Sure.
Yeah.
Might get some champagne?
Yeah.
Champagne?
Champagne.
Okay, so four.
Okay, and then we're going to get apple cider or some shit for the rest of the meal.
I want some champagne.
Do you have anything you want to ask the girls just while I work on this?
Oh, any questions?
What are your guys' opinion on age gap relationships?
What is the biggest age gap that you will date?
I do like right now at my age, I do like 10 years.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
What do you guys think?
Yeah, I can do older.
Like, I don't do older.
Like, not too older, like, not like 40s.
Yeah, I wouldn't know that.
30s are like good, but not like too old.
I think it depends on how old you are.
Yeah, like I'm kind of talking about that with my sister-in-law.
She's like, once you're 21, it's like a little different.
Right, it's game on.
Because, like, you're like, at least in the US, like, you're legally able to drink.
Like, you kind of hit all the legal barriers.
But I think morality-wise, it just like it's really person-to-person.
Personally, for me, it's like if two adults are in a consenting relationship, but they're both adults, then it's like you can't really say anything, like comment on other people's personal relationships.
But I think that background and stuff like that plays into it.
Because I think that like, I don't know, it just really depends.
Because I think that there's you know, like 20-something-year-olds who are with 40-something-year-olds, and it's totally weird.
And then I think that there's also like you know, 20-something-year-olds that are with 40-something-year-olds, and they're like in the same ballpark and match each other's maturity levels.
I really think it's subjective.
I think a lot of times it probably is weird, but do you have any thoughts on that?
I think right now, being 18, probably one to two years older.
Makes sense, makes sense.
That's the other thing that I was gonna say.
Sorry, not to like interject, but like definitely, like, when you're dealing with like being especially like freshly 18, but like even 19, 20, like you're still, I mean, 21, even I mean, like, brain's not fully developed, you're still kind of it's a wild card.
I feel like it's a lot more dangerous.
You gotta be fucking kidding me, man.
He'd be an aggressive bottles.
Oh, gosh.
If I get me the fucking hard one to open, will you clip it if I get like quirked in the eye?
I don't know.
It's coming.
Oh, my God, bro.
There it was.
It wasn't bad.
Oh, my God.
I fucking hate these champagne bottles.
Oh, wait.
It's already open?
And Pasty George, for the women who are not 21 yet, we are, I think it's only fair.
We give them sparkling cider.
So.
Fashizzle.
Fishzle.
Thank you, Pasty.
You're like, hell no.
Give me that champagne.
Yeah.
Give me cups, please.
Give me cups.
I accidentally left mine on the counter.
It's my bad.
No, they're over on the stove.
Oh, okay.
The Budweiser cups.
All right, we have a message coming in here from Pasty George.
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Okay, so that's passing down to chair one.
We'll do.
Oh my god.
Holy fuck.
Here, get on it before it fucking.
Just stay there.
God damn.
Man, you're not getting any fucking alcohol.
You're fucking already fucking pushing shit over.
No way we're giving you fucking alcohol.
All right, pass it down to Kylie there.
Oh, also, sign up for me, please.
I'm driving.
Do you want some?
Yes, please.
Okay, I guess you also.
Sorry, struggling to reach over there.
All right, pass it down to going down.
Hello.
Oh, you want to get into my bed?
Can I?
Sorry.
Yeah.
Please, I'm going to go.
for her.
Related to what Pastey said, I think if we lined up every woman on Earth and put her next to her male equivalent, 90% of them would be mortified.
This relates to women thinking they're more attractive than they actually are.
We put you next to your male looks equivalent, and you're like, nope.
All right, this goes to her, pass it down.
All right.
Good times.
Good.
Continuous country.
Good times.
All right.
Pass it down to that girl right there.
Did you just pound it?
Oh, yeah, I did.
You're supposed to wait for the cheers.
Throw your manners, Kylie.
I know, right?
Throw your manners.
You gotta wait.
Here, I'll give you some more.
I'm giving you more copies.
That's how I feel when I go to my grandparents for dinner and they're like, they insist on the same thing.
Here, Kylie, you get to, you get, no, you get a drink from the ball.
Pass it down.
She's not going to be able to do it.
I get it.
All right.
Yeah, all right.
Two Pasty George.
Two.
Oh, Canada.
Salu.
Thank you, Pacey George.
Thank you, Pasty George.
You're a fucking legend and a scholar.
And he's a brave and a decent guy.
What is this?
He's a pioneer.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Where were we?
We're going to get into the questionnaire.
What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
I don't care.
I don't have a preference.
So when you're like 30, you would date a guy who works at McDonald's?
If I really somehow fell in love with a guy that worked at McDonald's and I had enough to support myself financially, then yes.
Okay.
Minimum yearly income to be your future husband.
Right now, at this point, any guy.
You wrote 2 million here.
Ideally, yes.
Scoop into the table, please.
Well, wouldn't ideally be a billionaire?
Yeah.
Right, so but millionaire, like multi-millionaire.
But two million a year, that's the minimum yearly income to be for you that you would want for your future husband.
Well, here's what I learned about rich guys.
They don't make a life based on annually income.
It's something like IPO or startup.
Something get them rich at once or take a couple times, but it's not like annually income.
Right, like unrealized gains, net worth, whatever.
But you did write 2 million.
Yeah.
Okay.
So is that the bare minimum?
Like, that's how much can support our life if we are getting married.
After tax.
Okay, so 2 million.
Kylie, what about you?
Enough to live a happy and comfortable life.
What have an idea?
So you're 30 years old, you're going to date the guy who works at McDonald's?
I think that depends where we're living.
If I'm happy, yeah, if I feel happy and loved and we're financially stable, then okay.
What about you?
Probably like 100K.
250 is what you wrote.
2150.
Okay, what about you?
I originally put a million, but now I want to change it to 5 million because I would be making at least a million dollars a year as an anesthesiologist.
Okay.
So 5 million.
That's the minimum.
You wouldn't date a guy who makes 3 million.
Yeah, she would settle for a guy who makes 3 million or fucking cooked, lady.
Okay, what about you?
I put 100,000, but I'm actually, I want to raise it too because I wasn't thinking marriage.
I was thinking about like dating.
But yeah, marriage would be more because I feel like I'm going to be making millions.
So at least a million.
So he doesn't feel like insecure.
Because most of them struggle with that.
That's why they have to be making more about the same.
Because a lot of them struggle.
Okay, so bare minimum is a million.
You said.
Well, I guess right now, yeah, a million.
Okay.
What about you?
I said more than me.
Which is what?
Just in general, like if I do want to get married, yeah.
Just making more than me, taking care of me.
What's the 100,000?
What is it?
What's the money?
Yeah, yeah, like 100,000.
At least, like, he's like an entrepreneur and like has his own thing going and you know, motivated and not working at McDonald's.
Yeah, as long as, yeah.
Okay.
By the way, guys, we're going to lower the TTS to 100.
TTS has been lowered to 100.
If you guys want to get a message in, it should be getting ready to go now.
What about you?
I said 50, Kate, but my husband actually makes more than that.
I think that that is just what the bare minimum to be able to take care of our house, our vehicle, and our future kids.
Okay, I guess I can answer the question.
She can make, she can make zero.
Don't care.
Don't care.
Okay.
How tall are you?
And what's the minimum height?
Actually, wait, I should at least push back a little bit on this.
2 million, ridiculous.
5 mil or even 1 mil, ridiculous.
1 mil, ridiculous.
I said 100,000.
Hey, I put 100,000 for dating.
But yeah, for a marriage, because I'm going to have, I'll probably have a billion dollars.
I feel like I'm going to have to be a billion dollars.
I'll bet you a million dollars that you won't have a million dollars.
What you may or may not get, but okay.
Okay, wait, wait, remember this.
Remember this.
You're already there.
How was mine ridiculous?
5 million?
Yeah.
Have you ever looked at the female delusion chart?
You'll see why that's ridiculous.
Yes.
Like, I understand your viewpoint, but I definitely feel like you have to be realistic.
Yeah.
I mean, if I make a lot of money, like, I don't understand why.
I understand it.
Yeah.
Nowadays, I think this, I think social media has done a lot to a lot of, I mean, men and women's minds.
So, you know, we could say that men like look at like the pictures and stuff like that.
But like women, a lot of the times you go on TikTok and like all these women are talking about like getting like men with money and stuff like that.
And I'm not saying that's each his own, but like, you know, whatever they feel like.
That's why I don't judge anybody because I'm like, okay, like if she wants to do that, let her go.
I think she can even do better than that.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know why it's like so crazy.
I don't know.
Just find somebody who's like, I have my future career is a great career, you know.
I'd be smart.
I'm educated.
Like, I feel like that's not too hard to ask.
And you're, you're men don't care about your money.
So just because you make a lot of money doesn't mean that that opens up your pool to those guys.
But I feel like I'm also like, yeah, I feel like I'm also like decently looking as well.
I'd be smart.
Like, I feel like 5 million is not a lot to ask.
Here, let me ask you a question.
Especially in California.
Let's do this.
What percentage of men make $5 million?
In California?
In California?
Other places, okay.
More than in other places.
Yeah, cool.
What percentage of men make five million dollars a year?
Okay, and what percentage of okay, I don't care.
And what percentage of women will be able to make the amount that I'm going to be making in the future?
Men don't care.
I can take care of myself.
That's not true.
Okay, that's not true.
Answer my question before you ask me a question.
What percentage of men make five million dollars a year?
Not a lot.
In California, let's put in California because I'm going to be staying here.
Let's put probably like one percent here.
Less than that, maybe less than one percent.
Way less than that.
The top top one percent of earners to be in the top one percent, it's five hundred thousand dollars a year to be in the one percent.
Okay, oh, you did that, and that's factoring in men who are married, gay men.
It's factoring in men you're not going to be attracted to because I'm sure it's not just about the money to you, you care about other things too.
So, you got to think: okay, this guy's got to make five mil a year, then he's got to be this tall, he's got to be this attractive, he's got to do, he's got we got to get along, we have to whatever similarities, commonalities.
He can't be dating another woman, he can't be married to somebody else.
You start chipping away at even the very small percentage of men that make five million dollars, you're left with like five dudes.
That's true, that's like five dudes in the entire U.S.
And like the worst part about that is like, are those guys gonna look your way twice?
Like, that's the big thing, like, bro.
You're a feminist modern boss, babe.
I'm telling you, a dude who's making five mil, he don't want anything to do with you, not gonna drop his standards.
Well, honestly, yeah, thank you.
I don't know why I thought it was a way to go.
But it's always title.
That's so ridiculous.
Like, I feel like I'm honestly realistic about my standards.
Um, I shouldn't have to lower my standards to like meet with a man that's not my level.
You know what?
I want a 10 out of 10.
I'm literally 18.
Like, I want a 10 out of 10 20-year-old virgin, and I'm not settling for less.
And you could probably get that because you're known and you make a lot of money.
Like, that's not hard to say.
That's more real.
You know what?
That is realistic.
It's more realistic than what the fuck.
Yeah.
What you're doing.
How can I get, bro?
Yeah, of course, it's realistic for you.
I mean, you're going to be realistic in your life.
Yeah, I do.
Like, you can definitely be so realistic to me.
Like, this is not impossible.
So, most men want family-motivated, not career-driven women.
That's the thing.
Like, I don't know if you're aware of that.
Okay, and I don't want most men.
Well, cool.
I mean, I just think that you should be aware of what they think instead of being why do I care about what men think?
I don't think with men, leave them alone.
Don't care about what women think.
Leave men alone.
If I'm trying to financially abuse them, then if you don't care what they think.
I'm looking for a man.
A man should be looking for me.
And that's all it is for me.
No, that's not going to happen.
Okay.
Don't listen.
You never know.
No, honestly, yeah.
I think I mean, everyone has something to work on, but at the end of the day, like, if she wants what she wants, it's not what she wants.
I'm hungry.
Honestly, she's not going to get it.
Yeah, exactly.
You guys keep saying that for me, and I know it's going to be easy for me.
First of all, you guys keep saying a lot of that stuff to me, and I know it's going to be super easy for me.
Yeah, you guys aren't always right either.
I love her optimistic mindset.
It's like you said earlier: guys might want to smash you, but they ain't going to want to wipe you up.
Well, there's a lot of guys I know that even have a lot of money, and they're even trying to be with girls with a lot of money.
So I agree.
Yeah, I think less money than they're making.
Yeah, honestly.
Or more.
Nowadays, guys are changing.
Yeah.
I've met.
I think the only guys who want to be making less money than the women that they're with are simps.
And I feel bad for those women.
But men that want to be with women that make simply make more money than them.
Yeah.
The only men who want to make less money than the women that are with are simps.
I don't think they want to move their women.
No, because I think there's no money.
There is no simp out there that someone makes.
Yeah, exactly.
It's all subjective, but like everything there's changes the power dynamic.
I like to get the bottle like that.
I think that she's stressed out.
So I think the power dynamic changes when the woman starts to hold the majority of the finances.
How so?
Because I think that whenever you hold the majority of the money, you also make a lot of the big decisions as well.
Because you're also, you know, you have the money to make those decisions with.
And that's why I want a man that makes more than me because I'm like, I want him to make the decisions.
I want him to lead.
I want him to actually, you know, do stuff, not like me doing it.
Because that makes me be in my masculine, which I don't want to be in my masculine, you know?
I actually want to live.
Yeah.
You want to be in your software.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you know, so that's why I'm like.
But I get, you know, I get where you're coming from.
Oh, yeah.
I completely agree with you.
What you want.
Like, I don't know.
I don't think that that's.
Delulan.
Delululeman is okay.
It's okay to be in delude.
It's not delusion to want a guy that's not going to be like, his ego is going to be hurt.
That's what we're thinking about.
Because I know how much money I'm going to have, so I know I can't be with a guy that's going to be way less.
Tell us how you're going to make a billion.
I have five inventions, five.
So I'm sure one of them at least is going to be super successful.
I can't speak about it because that would be stupid.
That'd be stupid of me.
Bailey, you say this every time and you won't tell me.
Yeah, because that would be stupid of me because what?
So someone else can steal it?
So someone else can steal it?
Yeah.
So you don't think one of those are going to be a lot of people?
I already had a dream that I was going to be on Shark Tank too.
So I don't.
Like, these dreams that are reality.
If I'm not a billionaire even, I would be surprised.
A billionaire.
So that's why I say a million because hardly anything.
Maybe even a trillionaire.
Because I was with Emperor Augustus in his past life was a trillionaire.
And in this life, I'm doing more than him, so I deserve it in this life more than Emperor Augustus.
And he was a multi-trillionaire.
He's a multi-trillionaire.
Between the laughing and stripping.
Everything.
How are you going to?
She has multiple sources of money.
I had to strip because that's the world that we came into where a lot of people, like she was saying, they just push younger girls into that and it's fucked up.
That has more to say with the guys that are billionaires now than who I am as a person.
No, no, no, no.
Is it like a stripping?
I'm actually, and I'm a, and I'm a jack of all entrepreneurs, so I have an invention in each category, too.
I don't know, no.
I can't even say guys.
You just genuinely.
You can't say just like that.
Would you tell me?
Can you give us an idea?
Kitchen.
Cooking, the bedroom, eating, women, and games.
So fine.
I feel like you had ideas of the ring camera before it became popular.
Oh, yeah.
Like that.
Actually, no, but who knows?
Maybe I did when I was angry and you just told me some shit I didn't know.
No.
Wait, did you invent the telephone?
Did you invent the telephone too?
Like before?
Oh, no.
Did you invent a city?
No, but what are some things that you've eventually stole those inventions from you?
Oh, actually, there's a lot of things that I've done spiritually to help people with stuff, but like stealing in this life, none.
How do you help people spiritually?
Huh?
How do you help people spiritually?
What do you mean?
Like.
Like, you're a medium, right?
Yeah.
Do you offer like any services to heal their souls or whatever?
No, I usually just do it because I don't know.
That's not what I feel like I'm driven to do, but I could maybe.
I could, but I just don't feel like that's my main purpose.
But a lot of healers, they do do that.
They charge for their services, but I just do it for free right now.
Did you say earlier that you help, I guess, your partners spiritually?
Oh, of course.
They always start making two to three times more money or whatever they give me, I bring it back double, stuff like that.
And that's just like what you do when you are a divine feminine woman.
And yeah, it's easy to do.
How do you do that?
Through spiritual and physical ways.
So, like, yeah, just motivating them physically, but then spiritually doing everything.
Because I do have a soul, and we all do, even if you like, pretend like you don't.
And I'm very connected to mine and spirituality and physicality equally.
So that's why it's easy for me to do this.
And the people laughing are not, they're really insensitive, and it's really mean.
And let's start actually put like calling them out for it because it's not cool to do that.
Just because you don't understand things, you shouldn't laugh.
You should just be receptive and trying to learn.
You're bad, Nick.
Because you might look like an idiot one day.
I didn't realize I was here to be sensitive.
I like it.
Yeah, I like it too.
Yeah.
It's honestly, honestly, like whatever.
I totally believe in.
That's what I was delving into earlier when I was talking about.
Like, I'm laughing at anybody.
I smile, but not laugh.
I want to.
Okay, guys.
Next question.
How tall are you?
And what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
Starting with you.
I'm like, I'm like, say, 5'8".
I'm like 5'8 on the dot.
But generally, I mean, my rule of thumb is like my height or taller, but I'm really indifferent.
Like, I do not care for the sole reason of like for me to like reject you based on height.
Like, if he looks gay enough, can he be like five inches shorter?
Dude, yeah, probably.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, of course.
I had to think about, well, because like, dude.
I'm like thinking, ugh.
Like, no, just like decisions that I've made.
Dude, I've dated like twinks.
Twinks.
Like, like real tweaks.
Like, like, hostess packaging and all.
Twinks.
Like, like, for real.
Dude, like, like, gay, bro.
Like, no.
Like, that was, that's probably the more disturbing part is, like, they're not at all.
Have you ever dated a guy that wears makeup?
Yes.
Not like full, full beat, but the guy I'm seeing right now, he'd be wearing like eyeliner to his shows and stuff.
I actually like the guy liner a lot.
Like, he has a nice face.
Do you like emo?
Close as Mike?
Like, yeah, you know what?
Actually, it's like really interesting.
I feel like I don't.
Yeah, I don't know.
Such an ass, brian.
Anyways.
I'm 5'9.
I'll date any height.
And I think being mentally stimulated is more important than dating a tall guy.
Yeah.
So you would date a guy shorter than you?
The one currently dating is shorter than me.
And all my friends know I don't have, I don't hold standard for their height.
I don't judge them by the height.
What's the shortest you've ever dated?
Shortest.
I don't know.
Probably 5'6, 5'7.
You're 5'9.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's not like a crazy difference.
What about you?
i'm 5'4 um i've never really anyone's anyone shorter than me has ever taken interest so it's not like i've ever taken interest back but um i mean 5'4 and up i don't really care about height Okay, what about you?
I'm 5'4.
I would date like 5'6 to 6 feet.
But I have dated, you know, younger people.
Yeah, younger.
Shorter people.
Like maybe like 5'2.
What?
But it didn't last long.
It didn't last long at all.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
About you, okay.
I'm 5'7 and a half, 5'8.
I think the lowest I would go is 6'2 right now.
From now on.
You want someone that makes 5 mil a year and they have to be 6'2?
Yeah.
Those just dropping.
She likes what she likes.
She likes what she likes.
you're my friend like no hey I'm just like yeah I know yeah No, yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Like, I don't, I don't, hey, I'm not evil.
Likes what she likes, and yeah, that's three dudes.
It's like a needle and haystack, but you never know.
Yeah, you never know.
What do you do to make those men want you?
There's like three of them, like if you don't want her down, you don't know.
You know, somebody's gonna work for that.
She's young, she's young.
You know what?
Yeah, someone's gonna put the effort in for a man who makes five mil a year.
I'll tell you what, elbow grease and everything.
But you wouldn't bow to him, okay?
I would bow 10k per bow.
Oh my god, that's a good idea.
Why is it?
Yeah, why is it so transactional?
Transactional, like materialistic.
Oh, a lot of guys are.
You might find one.
Yeah.
What about you?
You might have to change some things.
I also don't really care about height too much.
I just said my height or a little bit taller, but I don't really care.
Oh, I'm 5'3, so I'm really short.
So yeah, hopefully, he's my height or taller.
Okay, what about you?
So I'm 5'5, and I said 6'2.
I don't care if he's like 6'.
I don't really care if like the 6'2, but I just don't like I like my man tall, so I don't care.
That's just how I like him.
I'm 5'2 1⁄2", and I've dated guys shorter than me, but I prefer my height or taller.
5 million a year, 6'2", good luck.
Good luck with that one.
Good luck with that one.
Thank you.
You're gonna need it.
Thank you, Josh.
$99.
Was that Russell Wilson for the AI look alike?
Take a peek at it next to Chair 5's male photo.
Who's that?
You.
Russell Wilson?
Maybe it did look like him.
We were trying to figure out how to get out of here.
Yeah, we were trying to place our finger on what Alexander.
I just like a lot of you like, he looked handsome.
I just wish he with the curly hair.
Curly hair, and yes, that would be cool.
He's very identified that AI look alike.
He looked like genuinely looks eight out of ten at least.
He looked really good.
Where have the manners disappeared to?
And a simple thank you, Pasty George, for the champagne.
Respect to the providers.
Can I give myself to me?
Yeah, I waved.
I think.
Yeah.
I said thank you too.
Yeah, I said thank you too.
I raised my cup once, literally.
And I can raise it again, you know.
Our fatherly figure here, Pasty George.
I've seen him come in on some of your other shows, and his comments are always just so great.
Oh, there he is.
Hasty George donated $100.
Yo, thank you.
A house in the countryside away from city life.
We wanted people.
I can't.
Hey, look, that's my life.
I said I couldn't.
I never said I could have.
I have two houses.
Let me know.
I'll live by the beach.
Hold on.
Forever.
That's literally my life to a T.
No malls, makeup, social media.
Don't live in the city.
Live in the countryside.
It is the dream.
Because Chad is in the city.
Chad lives in this retirement plan.
I'd love to live in a log cabin in the middle of night.
We literally have a log cabin.
Dude, so good.
And go stay in like Maine or something.
Huddle up.
Penmaker seems to dispute your $1 million anesthesiologist.
Okay, I've...
This must be like a superstar anesthesiologist.
No, I've...
I've seen and I've seen a lot and I've spoken to one personally.
Anyways, whatever.
Hasty George donated $100.
Chair 5, I am a millionaire, and $5 million is a hell of a lot to ask.
What makes you think that you are worth that much?
What do you have to offer?
Can you skin an animal?
Can you hunt?
Can you sew?
Yeah, I can sew.
I feel like the other things aren't really required in this day and age.
But I can sew.
Yeah, I make clothes.
You know how a Frada was talking about how she would bow if a guy paid her like $1,000 or whatever?
I'm willing to, you know, I'd be willing to take a girl out and pay for the date, you know, take her somewhere, maybe the date's $100, but she has to pay me $1,000 for me to do that.
Uh-huh.
i'm willing to pay for it but she has to pay me a thousand dollars for me to do that but okay i okay listen i feel like bowing is like a form of like degradation like i'm You should respect and honor your husband and your partner.
Oh boy.
Look, the bow thing, I'll just say this.
Women won't cook for a man that they've been dating for weeks or months.
They won't do these sort of small effortless gestures.
You won't do his laundry, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But you'll allow his penis to enter the deep recesses of the back of your throat within 30 minutes of meeting.
I don't know.
Well, not me, but maybe you claim to be a virgin, but that's whatever.
It's just crazy.
Like, I don't know.
To me, it seems like a bow takes no effort.
It's totally benign, super easy to do.
Making him some food, cooking him some laundry.
But these feminist women will quicker let a man come inside her or blast it on her face or whatever it is.
Variety of sex acts, whatever it is.
But the threshold of what you won't do is cook, clean, won't be submissive.
Is he going to do it back?
Is he going to bow back?
Because like I said, I would.
Because he's doing everything for you.
Why should he?
Oh, yeah.
Not for me, personally.
Do you want a guy to pay for dates?
Huh?
Do you want a guy to pay for dates?
Yeah, every once in a while.
Are you going to do it back?
I've already done it.
Are you going to do it?
For every X I've had, I paid for more dates.
Were you dating bummy dudes?
I mean, yes and no, not spiritually, but physically, a lot of them were.
Actually, not all of them.
Not my last one.
And that was, like I said, I was starting to make him more money, and he wasn't trying to bring me on dates, and I was trying to pay for him for a lot of stuff.
You have a chase tattoo about me because I'm not toxic.
Black hairspray, and it's just kind of like a whoa, she's got a fucking tat right here.
All right, well, whatever.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, I'm not toxic, and I've actually made every guy with either get a job when we were together or more money.
And they still kind of provide simple things.
That's why I had to break up with all mine personally.
But my situation is way different than most girls, I feel like.
I've just gone through hell, so don't ask me.
All right.
I'm just saying it's like, you know, you're.
Yeah, because I feel like I've gone through some situations with like brokeies, and I'm like, I just don't want to ever date one anymore because I've just like especially if you're helping him make more money.
Kylie, I noticed that you're wearing a cross.
Are you Christian?
No, it's my mom's necklace, and I just like it.
Oh, just for funsies.
Okay.
For you, Nick, pull up the screenshot that you have.
Queen D.
This is from your hinge profile.
So you're Catholic.
Looking for a long-term relationship open to short.
What does that mean?
I feel like women complain about this online when they see.
Looking for a long-term relationship, but open to short.
I'm open to short.
To like just fucking the guy.
No, not like that.
I mean, I mean, I'm looking for like a genuine connection, but like.
Genuine connection.
Do you mean just banging a dude?
No.
Within.
No.
I mean, I'm open to short.
I've been like, we can, you know, hang out, have a fling, but if it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out.
Okay.
And you're Catholic?
I am Catholic.
I grew up Catholic.
But are you practicing?
I'm not practicing as of now.
Maybe just can you claim Catholic?
I don't know.
You're just, I don't know.
I mean, I still go to church here and there.
Isn't your OnlyFan still in your bio or something?
Mary Magdalene was a prostitute, by the way.
No, she wasn't.
Yeah, she was.
Yeah, she was.
I think it was.
Yeah, she was.
And it's not in the Bible.
So that's crazy that these Catholics on the show don't talk about that.
My mom was Mary.
And Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.
Different.
And I actually brought that up in the comments.
We could talk about that later.
But, anyways.
Because the whole virgin birth thing with.
I was thinking I got my wires crossed.
Yeah.
All right.
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on the hike, starting with you?
I put a bear.
What about you?
Around the table?
What did I put?
You put a man.
Oh, the man.
What about you, Kylie?
Man.
She doesn't.
You also wrote you don't know how to handle a bear.
So sorry, what was the question?
Would you rather cross paths with a random man?
Guys, don't be mad at me when the show goes late because y'all just aren't paying attention and I'm having to repeat stuff and et cetera, et cetera.
Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on the hike?
A random bear.
Okay, what about you?
Bear.
Man.
It's been a while since we've had a panel.
Typically, most people say man, but it's been a while since we've really engaged on it.
So going around the table, those of you who picked bear, which was every one of you except, I believe you, Kylie, and you.
Why do you pick bear?
And why don't you pick men?
I feel like I'd be able to either run or fight back.
Bears are faster than humans, but okay.
Yeah, but like.
Also, bears are stronger than humans.
Okay.
Here's my thing: fight back against a bear or bear.
I feel like I've been more traumatized by men than by bears.
I feel like my trauma response would probably outweigh my ability to fight a man.
But how many bears have you encountered in your whole?
So have you ever been to Yosemite?
Because there be bears out there.
There'd be bears out there.
How many bears have you encountered?
I've encountered bears.
I can't.
Have you encountered as many bears as you've encountered men?
I've had better experiences with the bears, so I don't know.
I feel like just like in terms of realistically, when I was thinking about it, if I saw a man come up to me in the middle of the forest when I'm on a hike, I would probably be a lot scared.
Like more scared.
More scared.
Yeah, if a random man just came out of the woods on a hike than like a bear, I'd expect the bear to be there.
Have you ever like walked past a man and there's, I don't know, maybe it was just the street, maybe you're at the beach, maybe you were on a hike.
I don't know.
I don't know what you do.
And nothing happened.
Has that happened to you ever?
I mean, like, well, duh, like in the scheme of like life.
Right.
Okay.
So if we just replaced all the men you've encountered with like you're alive today, right?
Yeah.
With bears?
If we just replaced all the men you've ever encountered with bears, do you think?
Maybe I'd rather see a man?
Well, I mean, probably not.
There's well, either I wouldn't be alive or I'd be very skilled at handling bears.
Why do you pick bear?
I've been to Yosemite and they just like taught me to just be like scream at the bear.
And if I don't know, I think like with the men I've encountered.
So men are more dangerous than bears is what you're saying.
No, but I just prefer the bear.
Perfect.
Okay.
Why do you pick bear?
I don't know.
I feel like I don't know.
I just like bears more compared to men.
So.
And honestly, men have done worse things than, I feel like, bears.
Okay.
What about you?
That's funny.
It's true.
Men probably are destroying the world more than bears.
Also, on top of that, I'm like a Disney princess.
So I'm just saying.
You have your own logic.
Women are just.
No, you don't tell me to sh I tell you to shomen by this logic are destroying the world more than bears are too.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
I can't say no.
But also, I'm like a Disney princess, so I probably become friends with the bear like Mowgli.
Women's rampant consumerism is way more responsible for environmental damage and global warming than men.
I'm like a Disney princess and I would befriend the bear.
I'd probably somehow connect with it.
I mean, I'd be like, Mowgli.
I'm getting some fucking Mowgli.
Why do you pick the bear?
I picked the bear because I've just had traumatic experience with men and I would just rather be with a bear.
Okay.
By the way, Felicia, did we go finish the height thing?
Yes.
Everybody, you said 6'2, right?
Yeah.
Bare minimum height for a guy.
Okay.
Damn, we got some interesting panelists today.
All right, so go into it, Ryan.
I'm trying to know something.
This whole bear thing is interesting to me.
Wait, don't engage.
Don't engage.
So, anyways, I guess my confusion here with the bear is, I don't know, don't you think it's a bit discriminatory or sexist towards men to rather come across a wild apex predator over a man?
Oh, well.
Cool.
Let's switch it then.
What if, what if, would you guys be fine if this question was asked the following way?
Would you rather cross paths with a random black person or a random bear?
Would you guys be okay with somebody saying, I pick the bear over a black person?
Would you be okay with that?
If it was a man, I'd be fine.
You don't know.
I don't know.
No, so in this situation, it's not you.
Let's say there were white people who said, Yeah, I'd rather cross paths with a random bear than a black person.
Are they women?
You don't know.
Well, if they were woman, then yeah.
If they were men, then I'd be like.
It's a random black person, so it could be a man or a woman.
But the reason has nothing to do with the gender.
The reason has to do with the race.
Well, that's racist.
So if you pick bear, does that make you sexist?
No.
So, but if it makes you a racist to pick a bear over a black person, why would it not make you a sexist to pick man or pick bear over man?
Because a man can do like I feel like as a woman, I'm speaking from like a woman's perspective.
In that case, in that scenario, like they're just choosing it because of race.
That's racist.
But you're also choosing to pick the bear over a man because it's a man.
I'm choosing a bear over the man because a man can do more things to me than a bear would.
Yeah.
People are choosing a bear.
Okay, a black person.
A bear over a black person.
Right, so a black person could do more things to you than a bear could.
Yeah.
A black person.
No, whether it's a man or a woman.
No, a black.
Okay, that's not.
A black man, yeah, black woman, no.
Right, but what you're failing to understand here is the person who picks the bear over the black person does so because of their race.
Yeah.
What would be, so what's wrong with that?
Because that's racist.
Right, so then by extension of your logic, it must be sexist to pick the bear over a man.
No.
Because you're generalizing yourself.
I mean, what do you okay?
But.
So, very small proportion.
I get that each of you have had individual experiences that were bad with men or whatever, but you do realize like criminality is a really small proportion of the population, even of men.
So, you're basically doing that which you object to if it was done with race, but you're doing it to me.
But 99% of men have no, not 99% of men.
Rape cases have been rape has happened because of men, and the statistics are 99% like men over women.
Okay, well, a couple things here.
So, even if that was true, even if that was true, it is 99% of men.
Yep, no, no, no, it's not 99% of men.
It would be of the people that do commit this crime, it's this proportion of men.
Yeah, 99% of them.
But that's still a very small proportion.
Will you accept this then?
If there's greater criminality amongst illegal immigrants, would you accept this as a fair argument for being against illegal immigration?
I am against illegal immigration.
What do you mean?
Okay, so then I'll give you a different example then.
So, okay, really quick on the rape thing.
So, first off, very, very, like, I think it's less than 1% of men would ever commit this crime.
You can look at crime statistics that will back this up.
Additionally, this is a very convenient feminist statistic.
If the definition makes it impossible for the woman to commit the crime, then of course, by definition, if only men can commit the crime, which is the case in a lot of the way that the legally and for criminal justice purposes, the definition makes it impossible for women to commit the crime.
Wouldn't it make sense then that, yeah, 99% of people who rape are men?
It's not impossible for a woman to rape women.
Hold on.
But if you look at jurisdictional definitions of the crime of rape, it literally is impossible for women to women can commit other forms of sexual assault.
Women can still rape.
Hold on, but when we're looking at crime statistics, we're talking about the legal definition of the crime.
So there could be like an understanding of the term rape that is more like a cultural or social understanding of this term where somebody like sexually assaults a person.
But if the legal definition precludes women from being convicted of the crime of rape, then yes, the statistics would reflect that, yeah, a greater proportion of men are rapists because women cannot meet the definition of rape.
Bro, I okay.
So if, here, I'll try to explain it.
Because if the definition, hold on, if the definition of rape means that there needs to be a penetrative act, you need to penetrate the other person's body.
For example, a woman who like forced herself upon a man and she made him penetrate her, that wouldn't be constituted as rape.
So are you saying, let's say, for under the legal definition?
I'm talking about rape overall.
We're not like, well, if the statistics about 99%, it is the statistics, this is still.
The statistics are looking at the legal definition.
And if you've met the criteria for being culpable under criminal law.
Yeah, they should change that.
Okay.
Women can be guilty of other forms of sexual assault that people might consider to be rape.
But in the statistics you're citing to, many jurisdictions do not consider women capable definitionally of raping a man.
I know you disagree with that, but it's true by law.
Yeah, but the statistics are like way too high for that.
Are you like, what are you, it's 99%.
So are you saying the statistics are wrong because of that?
I'm saying that feminists like to cherry-pick statistics and they're misleading about the definitions as it relates to the crimes committed.
Okay, what is more informed?
Because I didn't know that.
That was good.
If it was the case that there was a certain criminal act and we gave that criminal sexual assault a specific term, I don't know, we'll call it muck duck or something, but only women could commit muck duck, then yeah, it would make sense for me to be able to say, well, 99% of women or 99% of muck ducks are committed by women.
Well, if the definition itself only basically allows women to commit the crime, then yeah, that would kind of pan out.
Okay, can you please justify how to the previous conversation with the bear and the man, can you please justify how, let's say, a group of people would choose the bear over the black man?
Justify what?
Justify, like, how is that not racist?
Oh, I think it's racist.
Yeah.
I think it's racist, but you have a sort of double standard that you're applying here.
It's not the same thing at all.
And you know it's not, Brian.
Come on.
Well, hold on.
So here, I'll paint it this way then.
So a lot of women will say they pick the bear.
Why do they pick the bear?
Well, they had a personal negative experience with a man or multiple men.
And then they also hear stories, perhaps on the internet or in news reports, that men are more likely to commit certain assaults or violent acts or whatever it is.
And so why couldn't that same justification be used as it relates to rape, as it relates to race?
So for example, let's say a white person has been victimized by a black person.
Why would it, under your law, I would still think it's racist because you can't paint with a broad, you can't just say like this entire group, I'm going to judge this entire group because I had one, two, three, four, five bad experiences with members of that entire group.
So what would stop a white person from saying, yes, I was victimized once, twice, three times by a black person, and I see all these people online who also have been victimized, white people have been victimized by black people.
And that is now my justification for my racist beliefs.
But what percentage of crimes are made by black people that would have them?
Well, are you sure you want to go down this road?
So if I could present to you crime statistics that indicate that black people are more likely to be over, if black people are more likely to be overrepresented in certain violent crime statistics, or for example, the fact that black on white crime is orders of magnitude greater than the reverse.
So black people are much more likely to assault, to rob, and to murder white people than the reverse.
Okay, but that's not what I was continuing.
I'm saying what percentage.
But even saying that, I don't think white people should be racist towards black people.
Even if the statistics seem to indicate that black people are way more likely to assault or murder white people than the reverse.
But like I'm what like 99%, what's the percentage of crimes made by men overall compared to black men in specific that would have the white group react that way towards a black man?
You know, I feel like it's justified for me to choose the bear over the man because most assault crimes have been made by men.
So discrimination is still a discrimination.
It doesn't matter what religion, sex, whatever.
I mean, if it's for my safety, like that's, it's not the same.
It's not about safety at the end of the day.
It's about making judgments based on one or two bad experiences.
How many, like, how many, what's the percentage of murders that are men?
But you know, why are you asking these questions?
Because I don't know.
Exactly.
I'm assuming it's a high percentage.
It's very high of murders in general.
Yeah.
No, are actually really low.
Like an overall mural.
Wait, listen.
Men over a woman.
What we need to look up is how many people have been killed by bear techs or men and technology.
But here's the thing is that most murders actually happen between married couples.
I just think about it logistically in the sense of like a bear.
Like, I don't know.
I'd rather take my chances getting shredded up by a bear and like killed and left for dead than like being assaulted or something like that.
Like sexually.
And that also like that goes for anyone like in the middle of the woods.
Like I'd be freaked out if I was like so you're calling in someone just like and that follows you forever.
Like the bear.
Yeah, really all it is for me is just like I would rather I would rather die.
Yeah, right?
Like get like shredded up by a bear and like mauled than like left with like more trauma or like be like, yeah.
How are men bigger predators than apex predators?
Bears.
Like because one or two bad experiences of a man assaulting me comparatively to like a bear.
The likelihood of a hungry bear eating you is really high.
Yeah, but well that's what I'm saying.
Wait, if it's a hungry bear and a very sexual man, I agree.
We need to look at that too.
George donated $100.
If I were asked about the bear or man scenario, but it was a woman instead of a man, I would choose the woman because I could ditch her in the woods and avoid a false allegation and jail time.
Get it, paste dude.
That's funny.
That's a good response.
Or he could do that, run away like a sassy man.
In the example, though, where a white person picks a bear over a black person, I think many people in society would recognize that as a sign of racism, of racism.
But it seems like it's somewhat acceptable for women to express this sort of generalized broad fear, hatred, sexism, bigotry towards men because of negative past experiences.
We wouldn't, by this logic, then it would, you would have to accept that it's reasonable for someone to be racist if they themselves had bad experiences, like a white person had bad experiences with a black person.
would have to justify their racism under your logic so if we okay if we like for example if a white person has had a bad experience with a black person i would be against them being like them saying oh well i'm just my racism is okay because i had a bad experience
If we reject racism based on individual experiences, we should also reject sexism based on individual experiences.
Yeah, but I have no individual experiences like that.
I'm going based off of statistics.
Like I said, 99%.
But when you do that, you open the door to genuine racists who can cite to crime statistics that indicate that black people are overrepresented in crime.
That's why I don't see it as equivalent at all.
I mean, it's literally the same.
No, it's not.
It's absolutely the same.
No.
It's discrimination.
Discrimination is discrimination.
Look at the definition.
It's judging somebody based off of their appearance, sex, race, or religious orientation, etc.
Okay, but me personally, I'm just saying I would choose the bear over the man.
Your personal opinion is sexist.
Okay.
That's your opinion.
Look, the bear thing, I think women just they greatly underestimate the risk profile of an encounter with a random bear and greatly overestimate the risk profile of an encounter with a random man.
But we're going to move on from that.
Any disagreements?
Let's see.
Oh, a woman's past should not matter.
So, body count.
Going around the table, you agree with the statement.
Kylie disagrees.
Queen D disagrees.
Sorry, agrees.
You agree with the statement.
Alex agrees.
Sorry.
Kylie agrees.
Queen D agrees.
Afreyta.
Frauda.
Fraud.
Fraudulent person agrees.
God.
Katie.
Kathy agrees.
All right.
So why should a woman's past not matter?
Wait, who, yeah.
Oh, like body count?
Because, I mean, in that context, like what I'm thinking of is because why would it?
If you're only with, I mean, like, if you're in a committed relationship with that person moving forward and you guys are exclusive and you've like talked about it and you're not seeing anyone else and you're tested all good, then I don't see why it would be an issue, you know, if you're not interacting with anybody else.
I feel like it's a personal preference, genuinely.
I think that like I wouldn't say it's wrong to not want to be with someone because they've been secure.
Is a guy insecure?
I don't.
Personally, I don't see why you would have a problem with it if you are genuinely only being with that person moving forward.
You know what I mean?
And that's like what you guys agreed on.
And you're not.
You're kind of baking in all these scenarios where you're only with this person.
So you're baking in loyalty.
You're baking in that they're clean.
I mean, well, yeah.
I mean, like.
Well, because those, I mean, those circumstances matter.
I feel like my body count would matter a lot more if I had like HIV versus like, you know, like not having anything at all.
Because then that's like, well, there's a reason why.
Sure.
A woman's passion not matter.
Why is that?
Kylie?
I said no, right?
Well, you agree.
A woman's passion not matter.
Why do you agree?
I just, I don't think it really matters to me if you're like a nice, respectful person.
Like, it shouldn't really matter.
Queen D?
I don't think it matters as long as you like have a talk with whoever you're with in a committed relationship.
Like if you're not tested, yeah, it shouldn't matter.
Okay, so as long as she's clean, she's clean and she's honest about it and the partner is like okay with it, it shouldn't matter.
I would say the same thing.
Honestly, I don't think her past should matter like that.
I feel like personality matters more.
If she's a good person at heart, then I feel like that matters more.
What about you?
Oh my god.
You didn't circle this one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I don't think a woman's passion matters.
Honestly, I feel like just have a conversation about getting tested and stuff like that and just make sure you're safe.
That's it, you know?
Okay.
So going around the table, if passion and matter, body count doesn't matter.
What's your body count?
Oh, yo, that's crazy.
I don't know if I feel comfortable answering that.
Didn't you say?
Didn't you say it was two?
Why did I say that?
Did I?
Definitely not.
It's not like, it's not high.
I just don't, I don't know.
That's not something I really disclose.
Didn't you say it was two?
Chad, didn't she say something in essence or along those lines?
Today?
Yeah, I could have sworn she said something about it.
If I did, I remember the number two.
Definitely not intentional.
I remember the number two for some reason.
Can you give us a range?
Single digit.
Did you lose track?
No.
You stopped counting?
No, I hadn't know exactly how many.
It's one.
So like single digit, but it would be hard to lose track at that point.
Ballpark it?
I mean, like, ballparking, it would be like still giving you a number.
Body count?
I can't pull that like 70.
70?
Okay.
Body count?
I don't really feel comfortable with that, but single digit as well.
Single digit?
But didn't you have a phase where you like hooking up with a bunch of people?
She had a roster.
Yeah, you had to roster, right?
Hooking up with the same person.
You said you had a roster like seven?
Like, it was, it's not so many people.
Like, it was just like I would.
But there was the guy in the ice cream parking lot.
There was the boyfriend.
There was the other boyfriend.
There was the guy who became gay.
There was a couple.
There was a couple guys you went over to their house and just fucked right away.
I know, but that was like over and over again.
No, but there were different guys.
Yeah, different guys, but like it wasn't.
Did you lose track?
No, I know what it is.
It's really close to double digits, though.
Nine?
I was going to say that.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
What about you?
Body count?
I would say in the times, like 13 or so.
13 or so?
Okay.
Well, that's actually.
I don't want to disclose that.
I feel like it's really personal.
It's 30.
Okay.
It's what?
She actually told me it's 30.
I never said that.
He's lying.
Oh, well, I guess you're going to have to confirm.
You're lying.
Okay, what about you?
Oh my gosh.
I actually never counted, but I know it's double digits at least.
It's up there.
Yeah.
I never actually counted.
Triple digits?
It may be.
It might be.
But I never counted, so I don't know.
Personally, that's just what God knows.
That's up to you.
Do you want to ballpark it?
Like, is it 50?
And I usually don't say.
I just like, you know what?
No, I have no idea.
Ballpark, 70 range.
Do you want to do 50 to 60?
I don't know.
It's been a lot.
It's been a lot.
A lot of energy exchanges, a lot of information exchanges.
Yes.
A lot of trauma.
Yeah, a lot of promiscuous.
Like, most of it happened when I was younger.
That's the thing.
Because my parents were trying to manifest me to get pregnant so I could get stuck at home.
But let's not talk about that.
Yeah, they wanted me to have a teen pregnancy and they kept trying to manifest it for me.
But that's before I broke all my curses.
But your parents were trying to manifest you getting pregnant?
Yes.
Teen pregnancy.
Like Sate would say it all the time, like, you're going to get pregnant.
You're going to get pregnant.
It's 16.
And I wasn't even having sex at the time, so it was crazy.
She was just like, really.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Body count?
Mostly happened when I was younger.
I would say around like 40.
And just because for me, I didn't know myself when I was younger.
And I just would do stuff.
So ladies, know your boundaries.
Okay.
Okay, 40.
What about you?
Five men, two women.
Good times.
Oh, yeah.
Good times.
This is for everybody.
Multiplied by three, and that's the real number.
For all of you.
All of you.
Multiplication here.
We all just got roasted.
Multiplication.
Hey, you know, I live and I learn.
How about this?
Has anybody had sex with two people in a 24-hour period?
Sure.
I had three.
Three?
In 24 hours.
I like her honesty.
I got to give you five.
Only once, but one time.
Three separate, different, not like a four-sep.
Anybody?
Two guys, 24 hours.
Me too.
Kylie?
No, I'm not going to lie.
No.
Bailey.
Yeah, I said, yeah, I'm not going to lie.
You know how many orgies are in front of me, though, that I didn't join?
Let's just go there.
But there's a lot of orgies that happen in front of me.
I'm so proud of you.
And I never, I was always like the one that would just sit back when there's like.
Into the mic.
into the mic don't sit back i was always the one that i think i've witnessed like four or five orgies and i've always like sat back so that was interesting I was like the only one too, or like maybe there's one other person.
How about anybody been with two guys in a 72-hour period?
So three days?
Nobody.
Wait, how many?
In 72 hours.
Three?
Oh.
More than one.
Oh, Kylie.
Raise the high.
Be proud.
Be proud with your Tinder.
Or wait, no, it wasn't even Tinder.
Your Tinder phone.
Okay.
Body count shouldn't matter.
Passion matter.
Let me ask you guys a question, though.
Would you date a guy who previously had sex with men?
And I know some of you are going to say yes because, well, looking at Kylie here.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
I think so, yeah.
Previously had sex with men?
Okay.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
Wow.
You're such a homophob.
What about you?
How dare you?
A frauda?
Would you date a guy here?
Would you date a guy who previously had sex with men?
Who me?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you.
Because the order.
Yes.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
No.
Okay.
Cool.
Um, what if they're, does it change anything if they're a bottom?
No.
No.
Like, still down.
No.
Almost made it worse in my head.
Like, if they're a bottom, does that change anything?
Still would fuck a gay guy?
Well, with me or with the other guy?
No, not a threesome.
No, no.
I mean, like, are they a bottom, like, when we're together or just like variety?
You know, were they taking it and then they were taking it?
How about this?
They're your preference in terms of how you like sexual.
Okay.
But like with men, they're bottoms.
Okay.
Fine with it?
Okay.
Would any of you date a guy who previously had sex with prostitutes?
Hold on.
Going around the table?
Starting with that.
I don't think so.
And I think that's only because I don't think I would be with anyone who paid for sex.
I don't know.
What if he was great, though?
But he just fucked a couple prostitutes back in the day.
I mean, you know what?
If that was like really what it was and like, you know, I don't know.
Like try something once, I guess.
Like that's you.
Say like 10 times.
10 times crazy.
How much money are you spending then?
Because I feel like.
It's not that much money, probably.
I don't know.
What?
A couple hundred?
Yeah, it's like two, three hundred.
A couple hundred bucks, probably.
But like what?
Like ten times?
Like you investing, like you investing like thousands of dollars for sex like this little.
It'd probably be two or three thousand dollars, ten different prostitutes.
Yeah.
Like that to me just seems financially irresponsible.
We're not going to get straight.
It's like a car payment.
Yes, because I know they did.
You know the deal?
They did.
They did.
You did.
They did.
You're.
You are a prostitute.
So you kind of wouldn't find that.
Not because of that.
Only because I know I knew they did.
They told me.
Oh, they did that in the past.
So it's the honesty?
What about you?
I don't think so, but it depends on the circumstances.
They were just horny.
And they needed.
Yes, that's fine.
Well, wait, what would be the other circumstances?
Like, if it was like a hobby, like they not a hobby, but like if they just kept, like, yeah, a sport, they kept doing it.
What about you?
I don't think so.
Wouldn't do it.
A frauda?
Absolutely not.
Okay.
Bailey?
I guess.
Yeah, next.
No.
But, I mean, I would date them because their past don't matter.
But at the same time, I would be more aware, and I would feel like that's where communication brings in and you're like the testing and stuff like that.
So, as long as there's like awareness on both sides, definite red flag.
I'm going to catch that man in my laundry and have to dump him.
Hasty George donated $100.
If a woman's past and body count shouldn't matter, then a man's income shouldn't matter.
No, exactly.
Height or even weight shouldn't matter.
His preference for younger women shouldn't matter, right?
I really agree with this one because the things that women want from men, men can't really change, like their height.
But the things men want from women, women can change, like taking care of ourselves, going to the gym, etc.
Yep.
Subjective chefs.
They shouldn't because it's in the moment.
If you're paying money, if you're paying money in the moment, and you're providing the moment, the show is in the past.
I mean, like, so you had, you were a prostitute in the past, or you, whatever in the past.
In the moment, if you guys both stopped and you're just loving each other, that's what's dependent on.
Yeah, that's what you learn as you grow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here I'll go.
I disagree.
Chef Dylan, thank you for the big $200 super chat man.
You're fucking legend.
Thank you, man.
Chair 2 is not from San Jose.
That's the wrong accent.
CCP agent.
Well, she said she didn't, like, she was born in China.
She just moved to the U.S. two years ago.
So she lives in San Jose.
Are you a CCP agent?
Seems like.
You're spying on us, girl.
There's one.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see here.
Chloe, transgender individuals do not have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.
Queen D, you also agree with that.
Kylie, you agree with that?
Why is that?
If they find out, they find out.
If they don't find out, then...
Are you trans?
Too bad.
Many times I tell guys, I told guys I am because why?
Wait, wait, wait.
Like when too many people try to talk to me and I just don't want to talk to all of them, and I use it as an excuse, you know, as a go-away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
That's crazy that I'm not going to be able to do that.
Somebody who has an argument on this, though, so do not have a duty to disclose.
Kylie, why is that?
Well, I think it's a black and white question.
Some people prefer not to tell, which I feel like I can't really speak on because I don't know that type of experience.
Especially from someone like me who doesn't have a preference for gender, but for other people, they do mind.
So I feel like that's not really my place to speak on since it's a black and white question.
Just people prefer differently.
But knowing that there are people out there who do care about it, shouldn't there be some duty, if you're trans to let the other person know ahead of time?
Well, I don't know if that's like my place to speak because I'm not trans, so I don't know.
But I've heard arguments on both sides being like, I would like to know.
I forgot what the reason was that they would like to know, but so you don't sleep like if you're straight so that you don't sleep with a man.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
I feel like I don't really know how to answer that question.
Okay, Queen, why?
Oh, I think I read the question wrong, so I would like to change my answer.
Well, the next one, a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
You agree?
You three, why is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
Oh, my bad.
Yeah.
Because they're woman.
Okay.
Because they don't know.
thought they are they were dating a girl well i in the the hold on You can know that somebody's trans.
And some people.
Well, okay, then I think that should be a crime, to be honest.
But okay.
Kylie, why is it straight for a man dating to date a transgender woman?
I mean, straight relationships between a man and a woman, but I think people have different opinions on that because it's supposed to be, they say like, oh, biologically male or biologically female.
I just see it as male and female, so it doesn't really matter to me.
Well, you can't change your sex.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, even granting that somebody can change their gender, you're still a like.
Well, here, while I ask this, this will maybe simplify things.
What is a woman?
That's a really broad question.
I don't know.
I think it has a really simple answer.
But what is a woman?
Hold on.
No, no, no.
Wait.
Someone who identifies as a woman?
A woman is someone who identifies as a woman.
There's no descriptor there, though.
Well, because like what would be like a cat is something that is a cat.
That's not a good definition, is it?
Because like what makes a woman a woman, though?
Like, because what is a woman?
Yeah, that's why I'm asking.
You don't know?
Okay, what about you?
What is a woman?
Someone who was born as a woman.
Oh, okay.
What about you?
What is a woman?
Same with Cho Tu.
Someone who was born as a woman.
Wait, same as her?
But then, so a transgender woman was not born as a woman.
So she's a man.
So are transgender women men?
I don't really know how to answer that or speak on that.
We realize that babies aren't coherent enough to understand gender identity.
They can't even speak.
So a transgender woman was born male.
Yeah.
But transgender women are not born women.
Yeah.
Because they're male.
Yeah.
But are.
Okay.
I'll come back to that.
What is a woman?
For me, a woman is like who was born with like the biological like the ovaries.
Okay.
What is a woman?
Someone born as a female.
Okay.
Yep.
That's biologically a female.
Yeah.
A woman that has pussy and titties, you know?
Are you counting like plastic surgery and like transgender women?
No, because I think transgender women can change that.
That's why they go into right?
Can't they know they can't think it?
But I think like with transgender or so then is a can a transge under your definition of what is a woman does a transgender woman fit your definition of what a woman is and honestly I don't really know that type of stuff to be honest with you so I can't even I couldn't answer that.
Adult human female.
That's my preferred definition.
As it relates to this being this straight thing, though, my confusion here is hold on.
My confusion is.
I mean, to Kylie, a man dating a transgender woman is straight.
I can also change my answer.
I don't really if you want to, but I don't know.
I just respect what I see on the internet, so you shouldn't do that.
But look, here's a different question: Can a male become a female?
Yeah, that's what surgery you're right.
But they can't become like one.
So, okay, even a male cannot become a female.
So, we're talking about sex, right?
Male and female pertains to sex.
Gender, for the sake of the argument, I'll just grant it.
Gender is man-woman, gender identity.
People can change their gender identity, I suppose, but it doesn't make you even if you get surgeries, doesn't make you a female if you were well, you remain a male.
So, my position on this would be a male dating a male that can never be heterosexual.
Straight is short-form slang for heterosexual.
So, heterosexual, what is this pertaining to the opposite sex, opposite sex attraction, other sex attraction?
Two males, regardless of their gender identity, that can never be heterosexual.
It is always, it would always be gay.
It would always be homosexual.
I'm not making a criticism of that, but it's definitely not straight.
Does anybody want to am I wrong?
I don't know.
No, that's am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
Kylie, okay, W. Kylie, she, I guess she's full-blown.
You're trying not to blow up?
No, throw up.
I don't have it.
This is my bad.
I'm like sick.
Oh, like, not like sick, sick.
I'm chronically ill.
Throw up from the conversation.
I'm going to flare up right now.
I don't know what's going on.
Okay.
Kylie, you also said that wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans.
Why is that?
Wrong.
I'm sorry.
You spoke too fast.
So the statement is wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans?
Did I agree on that?
Yeah, you agreed.
Why is that?
Is it wrong?
Like, here.
Is it wrong for me to not want to date a transgender person?
No.
Because they're trans.
And I agreed with that?
Yes.
Maybe you.
Well, is it wrong?
Is it bad?
Is it.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, yeah, I think I should change that, but you know, it doesn't.
I don't know.
I don't really know much about trans all right.
We're going to do.
We've got a few more here.
Gonna try to wrap, get wrapped soon.
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Kind of.
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If I was taking any of you on a dinner date, I ask you all body count.
It is more than five plus, or you all don't want to say.
I will walk away from the table, pay my half of the bill, and block any contact.
I mean, then what's stopping her from lying?
Wow, that's a great foundation for a relationship.
Yeah, fantastic.
It's very self-serving to.
Yeah.
Okay.
Muddy, thank you for the TTS.
Really appreciate it.
Nah, not yet.
I'm kind of waiting for the rest of the group to get back until I jump into the other stuff.
But let me see if there's anything else in the notes for any of the particular guests.
We did Chloe.
We did Alex.
Lauren.
She's the no-show.
Christian.
Christian woman with Bible versus no calls, no shows.
Oh.
Imagine that.
Yeah.
No calls, no shows.
Liz.
I've met one of my.
Wait, Liz?
Who's Liz?
Kaylis.
I go by Kaylis.
Why?
Oh, okay.
You met one of your dates exes at work before we went on date.
She told me everything.
Oh, that's whatever.
Oh, yeah, that was me.
You wanted to talk about 50-50 relationships?
What's that about?
I mean, we kind of went into it, didn't we?
What's that?
We kind of went into it.
Do you like them?
No, no.
Are you against 50-50?
I think it depends.
Like, I think it's just like if we're committed, then there's like, like I said, I'm all about reciprocation.
But like, at first, like, I just want to, you know, see if you can be a man and like masculine and just like take me out.
Because that's honestly, that shows me that you actually do care.
And I press that button, Brian.
Press that button.
I was just changing the camera.
I said you're going to do a little.
You also wanted to talk about having sex on the first date?
Yeah.
I think I've encountered a lot of men that like immediately go towards that.
And like I was saying earlier, about like I've gotten like asked to hang out from guys and like that's something that they've like initiated before.
And I'm like, obviously, I'm always like, because I do just hang.
I have guy friends, you know?
So that's why I'm like, you know, I've encountered a lot of guys that like immediately just go into that.
And I don't think of it like, oh, my first thought is not like dating.
That's why I always have to ask them because sometimes they don't mention that.
Like that's not the first thing they say.
So yeah.
But other than that, yeah, like I just don't like that.
I don't feel like, it just makes me feel like I'm just being used.
40 times, though?
Like all, because you said the body counts 40.
So you feel used like all the times or no, because honestly, I've grown.
Like I said, I was raised on my own.
I had to figure out a lot of things on my own.
And I've made mistakes that I honestly didn't know my boundaries.
I didn't know my words.
So you know what?
Shit happens, but like that's why I grow.
And you get older, you start to learn things and you start to really put into your boundaries and stuff like that.
So yeah, I've made my mistakes.
You said how to tell someone you've cheated on them.
Yes.
Did you have you cheated on guys?
I've done it once, but I think it was like a cheatback.
It was a cheatback?
Yeah, it was more of a cheat bag.
Oh, also, you said that just how men are more sassier than ever.
Am I sassy?
Yes.
Yes, Brian.
The fact that you're talking about the princess era is definitely sassy.
So yes, you are sassy.
Sassy man.
And I love that for you.
And someone out there will be willing to give you whatever you wanted.
Because I've dealt with a sassy man before, and it's just like I deal with multiple sassy men before, and I'm just like, I think most of them are like mama's boys, first of all.
Why should men not be sassy?
I just, I think that I think happy, I think happy men are like so much more open with being that way.
I don't think women should be sassy either, though.
Yeah, like I wouldn't say, like, I obviously have done that where I'm like sassy as fuck, but like, but I, the reason I say this, and look, the social order I would like to see, nobody's sassy, women are women, men are men.
We all have our, you know, duties, responsibilities, etc.
It seems though, like, women have why do I always forget the word for that?
Women have forsaken any of their duties or responsibilities or traditional gender roles, but you still want men to be traditional men.
Women have, at no other point in human history, have been more fucking free and independent and modern and all this shit.
Never have they been more promiscuous, none of this shit.
But now you still want men to be adhering to their traditional gender roles.
That depends because I think there's some women.
Like you said, there's some men.
Okay, yes, there's, yeah, there's some women who are traditional and there's some men who are not traditional.
Like, I'm, when I, when I'm saying these things, I'm not denying that, like, it's not a claim that, oh, there are no women who meet this metric.
Okay.
You can get up.
I'm speaking in generalities here.
No, yeah, I get it.
The general trend I see is not.
The general trend I see is not the woman is a submissive fucking trying to be a trad housewife virgin.
The trend I see is closer to she's done fucked 10 guys by the time she's 20.
Well, then that's closer to reality than the other.
It's always been that way almost.
No, it has not always been that way.
Well, I feel like social media has done a lot.
The oldest job is prostitution.
Social media has definitely fucked up.
The first job fucked up a bunch of shit.
The oldest and first job is prostitution actually.
No, it's not.
It's fucking fisherman dork because how did the original guy pay for the fucking pussy?
He gave the fucking prostitute a fish.
You're right.
Actually, the oldest profession is a fisherman.
Yeah, but still, the oldest for women is probably prostitution.
That was kind of funny using the word dork there in a phishing sentence.
I guess.
No, but it's true.
Social media has pushed that.
Just because the oldest profession.
First off, it's not true.
The oldest profession is not for women.
Not even for women.
Not even for women.
I mean, that's what it says online.
But you're right.
It could be wrong, but you don't know.
You don't even know because you weren't there either.
But that's what it says online.
But you're also doing the same thing that you said that you're assuming.
You're doing this appeal to like historosity.
Oh, okay.
Well, way back in the day there was prostitutes.
So therefore, prostitution should be okay today because it happened a really long time ago.
Cool.
There was slavery 300 years ago.
Do you think that we should bring that back to?
I don't know.
But all I know is a lot of girls that do it do it to survive and other things like that.
So if you take that into account, you shouldn't be judging them in that so much of a sense.
Okay, drug dealers self-defense.
Also, Jesus, again, Jesus chose to be with a prostitute and got her out of that.
Yeah, that's fake news.
No, it's not.
It's not.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
It's total bullshit.
No, it's not.
That's what you want people to think because it goes against what you believe.
But that's not true.
So you could just think that.
But the truth is the truth.
Literally fake news.
Totally fake news.
And it even says it in the Bible.
So if you're Catholic, then there you go.
You don't believe in your own religion.
Tell me the verse.
No, it's in there.
I just know, but it's not.
Yeah.
And actually, most of the Bible was changed, and they took a lot of books out and they burnt them because they didn't like how feminist they actually was.
So they changed it to be super toxic masculine by burning and taking out a bunch of books.
Mary Magdalene had a child with Jesus and she was a prostitute.
And that's the truth.
You don't have to believe it, but.
And then when you find out the truth eventually, then you'll look like the idiot for making fun of me.
So there you go.
That was the perfect audio, by the way.
I love that.
Yeah.
Wild thornberries.
Oh, okay.
Here, let's skip back into the questionnaire since we have Alex back at the beginning.
But Jesus was a real man.
That's why he got her out of it so that she didn't have to suffer because she had a bad childhood.
Which then it goes against you should never judge someone by their past, but who they are in the moment because it's not like you're living in the past.
You're living in the moment.
So.
All right.
So, Erica, you're in an age gap relationship 20 years.
I am.
You're married, never been happier or healthier.
Are you going to have kids?
Yeah, we're working on it.
He has a vasectomy, so no accidents happening over here.
Gotcha.
And then you said when you were first casually dating, you tried to friend zone him?
I did.
I was such a dumb little C-U-N-T.
I'm just an idiot.
Yeah, I know.
I was just such a jerk.
I was going through a lot of drama, and I was like, this guy's great.
I don't want him to be around all this drama and like see all this shitty shit.
So I tried to cut him off and he's like, yeah, no.
Hit me up when you want to have fun.
I'm like, oh my God.
And the first guy ever to tell me no, first off.
And then second off, yeah, within a month, I was hitting that guy up because no other guy was telling me no.
Every other guy was like, yes, absolutely.
I'll be there for you.
So you tried to friend zone him and he was like, respectfully, no.
Yeah.
Literally just flat out told me no.
Hit me up when you want to have fun.
And there you go.
You said that you think dating as a teenager is where you went wrong.
You watch your little sister become one of the most well-rounded young adults because she isn't boy crazy.
Absolutely.
Let's see.
She's 19, not only graduated high school, but two terms of college.
She wants to become a police officer and eventually an FBI investigator.
She is the smartest little lady I know.
You said that you believe strongly in traditional values.
I do.
You do your best to fulfill wifely role even before marriage.
You also write, you don't think single women should be giving advice.
Agreed.
We're taking advice from other single women.
Why is that?
Commiseration.
A lot of single women do not want to see you doing better than them.
Okay.
Even if they're your friends.
You also said you think most women need therapy before getting into a serious relationship.
Absolutely.
So they can practice accountability and admitting when they are wrong or acting inappropriately.
Yeah, unless your therapist doesn't want to talk to you anymore because you're too self-aware.
You should be going to therapy.
Okay, cool.
Going to Queen D, your notes.
You said you're a huge yapper.
I don't know.
That hasn't really been established tonight, but I'm such a dick.
Okay.
You've lived a million lives and so many batchet stories to tell.
Yeah, like I've dated some batchet crazy men.
Okay.
You said you've been single for six to seven months.
But in your notes, you said you're unsure if you're single.
Can you explain that?
Well, I was talking to somebody recently, but I mean, we just ended things, but it was just talking.
So I don't consider it dating, really.
We were just like talking, getting to know each other, and it wasn't that long.
It was like a week and a half, to be honest.
Right.
But before that, I was dating somebody that was really nice in the beginning.
And he is undocumented.
And his family basically tried to manipulate me into marrying him for the green card.
But then he ended up cheating on me.
When I found out, it became a domestic violence thing.
Oh my god.
Nah.
You laid hands on him?
Nah.
Oh, he.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
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A trans woman who was born a man but believes he is a she is just plain old mental illness.
Stop enabling it's true.
It's fucking true.
It's true.
By the way, the like the surgery down there, the bottom surgery.
That's not pussy.
See what?
Just curious.
No, I haven't.
I saw that.
But I can imagine.
Pretty fucking real.
As a girl, I cannot even tell.
But I mean, we're not guys.
It's not like we know.
We're not sticking our in it, you know?
Like, yeah, right.
Guys, you guys have like 4,000 nerve endings.
Only by looking at it, I cannot tell the difference.
Yeah, yeah.
I just don't think that you can mimic those 4,000 nerve endings that create that part of you.
It is true.
That is true.
I don't know.
We got some science deniers here at the table, it seems like.
I don't know.
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When a woman expects a man to pay for everything on the first date to entertain her, to be manly for her benefit, it makes him feel used, objectified, and even inhuman.
Exactly.
It ain't pussy, is all I'm saying.
That is a point I try to bring up a lot.
It's like just how inhumane men are being treated nowadays with all this common misandry.
Oh, it's so inhuman.
It is inhumane.
You guys are just being like your Jesus said.
This is effort.
This is effort.
Do you hate men?
Like, as a whole, no.
No, I don't hate them.
No.
No.
By the way, there's audio only listeners, so just speak it instead of gesturing.
Sometimes.
Genuinely, yeah.
What if a white person says they sometimes hate black people?
It's not the same thing.
It is.
It's the same.
It's bigotry.
It's bigotry.
Yeah.
Okay, how about if a man said he sometimes hates women?
What's your reasoning?
Like, why do you hate women?
Does he need a reason?
You don't have a reason.
I do have a reason.
Do you?
Yeah.
What's your reason?
I mean, we could see it.
Like, I can't literally go a single day without opening my phone and seeing, like, a woman getting stabbed like 71 times and raped.
Like, wait, hold on.
You can't go and date.
I go on TikTok.
You see daily male-on-female stabbings.
Every day.
That's clearly an exaggeration.
Every other day.
My dad.
I do see it.
It's an old story every day.
Every other day.
Okay.
Cool.
Why would that give you justification to hate like four to five billion people?
That's why I said sometimes.
Yeah, why would it sometimes give you justification to hate four to five billion people?
I don't know.
That's just how I feel.
Okay, cool.
So then a white person who sees all these videos of black people committing crimes against white people, find for them to sometimes hate black people?
No, that's racist.
Then your position's sexist, lady.
No, it's not.
It is sexist.
Yes, it is.
You're a hypocrite.
I agree.
Bigotry and discrimination can apply to no matter what sex, no matter what gender you are, no matter what religious orientation.
What if I saw, I saw a bunch of every single day, I saw videos of women acting fucking stupid, doing some stupid shit, you know, whatever it is.
Would that give me justification to sometimes hate women?
Okay, what case?
Like, give me an example.
Like, what a woman's sample.
No, he said doing stupid things.
Like, what stupid things?
Oh, sure.
Like, this woman in Australia lit some guy on fire pretty recently.
That's interesting that you laughed.
No, no, it's not funny.
I'm so sorry.
Right.
Yeah.
It's just the scenario.
True colors are really coming through.
Like, you're kind of a terrible person.
Yeah, okay.
I don't think it would be like appropriate for me to laugh if like no, it's just a scenario.
I've never heard of anyone litting someone, lighting someone on fire.
Literally happened in Australia.
I feel like there was another one recently.
I'm trying to recall the recall the details.
Oh, man.
Like, I saw this just the other day, there's this police body cam video of, I think, a woman who killed her two sons.
That's terrible.
Like, honestly, that breaks my heart.
Yeah.
I'm not.
Yeah.
So.
Oh, man.
There's recently, there was another good one.
Like, fuck, I'm trying to remember.
Well, whatever.
Okay.
All right.
Just letting you know, you're kind of a little bigoted towards men.
Just saying, like, it is sometimes, you know, sometimes they do good things, sometimes they do bad things.
And I feel like I hear more.
Well, then, why don't why don't you just say something more like digestible?
Like, I hate this particular person who did that.
Well, like, why not just say the person who did the bad thing, I hate them.
It's just when you hear it so many times, that's just how you're going to feel.
The same exact logic can be applied to anti-black racists.
You realize that, right?
Yeah.
It's a dangerous game you guys are fucking playing because you open the door logically to allowing the exact kind of racism and other sort of discrimination you're against.
I'm just saying.
They can use your same justifications.
I think the lack of sympathy towards men, their sacrifices, and their suffering is really why there's an inhumanity being shown towards men.
It's just, it's not, it's not fair that you guys are having to go through as much as you're having to go through just because women are entitled to live a soft, easy life.
Based.
Based on Red Pill.
Oh my God, man.
It's just sad what you guys have to go through.
And us, everybody.
But you guys also are trying to say it's worse for men, but that's the same thing as doing what she's doing, but you don't see it yet.
That's the same thing.
I just, I don't really.
I'm not really listening to the false victimhood.
Sorry.
And that's what I feel with you guys.
I feel the same both.
I feel the same.
I'm sorry, you're literally living in your own little imaginary world.
I don't know how we can even begin to have the same perception.
Yeah, because it's more in reality.
Like, I genuinely do try not to hate men.
Like, I don't like hating people, you know, but it's just, like I said, it is really hard too.
That's why I said sometimes.
I try to keep myself out of that mindset.
But every once in a while, it's just like you can't stop that feeling.
If I take it away off of race and I just do a reversal and say, if men frequently have bad experiences with women or they see things, you're this isn't a different thing.
You can't say, oh, well, race is different.
Still, it's about sex.
To be clear, you're fine with men saying the same, having the same framing towards women then.
It's just when I'm seeing it, it's just I'm looking at like statistics of like assault rates.
I mean, like assault crimes and all of that.
When they're doing it, it's like, oh, she cheated on me, which is obviously like I don't support, you know, oh, she cheated on me or oh, she's manipulative or something, and that's why I hate women.
They're all evil, this, that.
But when I'm seeing, oh, sometimes I hate men, that's what I'm thinking about.
I'm not thinking, oh, I hate men because, oh, you know, maybe they're manipulative or this and that.
It's I'm looking at statistics, and that's, that's what makes me feel that way.
I understand it's wrong sometimes to think like that, and I try to keep myself out of that mindset.
And that's why I said sometimes, you know, just clarifying.
See, this is a common and common like feminist tactic where you want to.
So here's what you do.
Here's what you just did.
You're going to exaggerate the ways in which women are victimized or grieved upon.
And you're going to diminish the ways in which men are victimized or aggrieved upon.
So like the two examples you gave were like to the benefit of your position.
You were not charitable at all to the degree to the ways in which men face difficulties in life or they have complications with women.
Oh, she was kind of annoying.
That's the you're basically saying that's the worst experience men can have with women.
And then you're saying, I mean, I'm just compare that to rape.
It's like so disingenuous.
Like at least be intellectually honest where you're doing a fair accounting of here's all the here's the ways in which men can be treated poorly by women and give that like I gave a big reason.
I gave it what cheating cheating.
Yeah, that's a huge reason.
Yeah, cheating is not as bad as being raped.
I know, but I'm saying, oh, okay, that's a huge problem too.
But I'm seeing the world that's only you did a comparison of women, all men have to deal with is cheating.
Okay, that's it.
Women have to deal with it getting raped.
Do you see that's so bad faith and just not like portraying an accurate representation?
Like, for example, that'd be like me saying, men deal with false accusations by women.
And sometimes the guy on a date, he wants to split the bill.
You would be like, well, hold on, Brian, that's fucking bullshit.
Like, women have like XYZ greater problem.
You wouldn't accept that if I did that.
And I wouldn't do that.
Yeah, but I also did just admit that the way I felt, which was sometimes, was wrong.
I'm not saying that this is justified at all.
Okay, we're going to move it on just for the sake of time.
What were we going around the table on?
Oh my gosh, I know.
I forgot after like a minute.
What is it?
I don't remember.
I forgot after the first minute.
Oh, do you hate men?
Hell no.
Do you hate men?
No.
Okay.
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Only have a few more on this.
We have queen queen D, you said you think modern dating is harder nowadays because nobody really meets people authentically anymore, and it's just more like a cycle of having to ask them what they like to do when going on dates.
It's impossible to find someone real and genuine because of what they put online.
It could be so different on the date.
I think online dating in general is just bad.
It's bad.
It's harder to find someone authentically, like in person.
Like when I do find someone, like say a mutual friend or something like that, it's a lot easier to connect with them.
Whereas like when I do find like a date online, they could be like so awesome.
And I'm not saying like I'm the best either, but I'm saying like they could be so awesome online.
And in person, it's just like not.
I just, I don't think any guys are using online dating sites for anything but hookups.
Like, I just think that's the way that it is.
I've came across some guys who are like, yeah, I'm looking for something authentic or like I'm sure they'll say anything they gotta.
I'm 100% sure they'll say anything they have to.
It's hard, definitely.
Well, yeah, some people they'll just lie and lie.
I mean, that's why you really have to vet out these options before you let them into your home, into your pants, into your heart.
Like, we have to vet these people out way in advance before giving them the opportunity and the honor of being our lifelong partner.
You mentioned being like real and genuine, though.
I guess my objection to this is wouldn't you agree that your appearance is not particularly real and genuine?
What do you mean?
Like I'm like on your Instagram, you wear full face of makeup on the regular.
You're wearing fake contact lenses.
You're changing your eye color.
You're being a little deceptive about your appearance.
I mean, I have gone on dates without makeup or anything on.
Have you?
I have.
Okay, but I've shown up without like anything on.
We looked at your, we don't have the photos to show the audience, but we looked at your hinge profile before.
Not one of the photos that you posted on your hinge profile was you without makeup.
I don't know.
It seems like women complain a lot about not finding like real, genuine men, but like your entire appearance is fake.
I mean, before any like actual date, I actually like try to FaceTime them, and usually I'm not wearing makeup when I'm FaceTiming them.
They see me without makeup.
I think I maybe got a text before my first date with my now husband.
A text.
Men are very physically, visually driven.
And so women know this.
That's why a lot of women wear makeup.
You're obviously trying to make yourself look more attractive than you actually are.
If makeup didn't make you look better, you wouldn't wear it.
So it is this sort of deception.
I've always tried to think of, I don't know what would be the right explanation of this, but imagine if there was like these little teeny micro-robots.
This would be some futuristic thing that can literally change the visage of your face.
Like, and it's this mask basically that you put on that looks real.
Like it, you can't tell that the person's wearing it.
And it just totally changes your entire face.
Little tiny robots.
Okay, they'll change up your jawline.
They'll change your nose.
They'll change everything.
You basically look like a completely different person.
My question to you women is: would you feel tricked if a guy employed this like future technology and he looked not like he was really ugly?
But he was using this thing, this future technology that totally changed his face.
Would you guys feel tricked?
Absolutely.
Of course.
It's deception out.
It's finest.
You're lying.
That's makeup.
Yeah, you're welcome.
That's makeup.
But is it because you can't recognize that they're like wearing the mask?
I mean, like, you know, if I could be like, oh, shit, like, there's an outline of a mask on them.
Well, yes, obviously, the hypothetical scenario with like this future micro, micro-robot technology is something different.
That's something else.
But the effect is perhaps not to the same magnitude or scale, but it is still like you're changing how you look.
You look more attractive than you otherwise do.
And it is a deception.
I think it's a fraud.
But like, do you look more attractive?
With makeup.
Some people are so good at makeup.
It's literally like they completely change their identity.
Like, speaking from experience, if I put a full beat on, I look like a different.
I mean, I look older, and I look like a different person.
I don't look like me, but I wouldn't say that I'm like less attractive.
Resources fake up in the Discord.
Resources fake up in the Discord.
I'm excited to see this.
Pull that shit up.
Yes.
Pull it up, Nick.
Pull out a new makeup.
Just honestly, dude, scroll to the very top.
We'll just go.
We'll go through it all.
Maybe not all of it, but just go to the very top.
Yeah, fake up.
Just click that first one.
Full screen it.
All right.
Then just skip to 50 seconds.
Skip to 50 seconds.
Oh, oh, wow.
Oh, it's pretty.
Oh, what?
Okay, next.
We're going to rapid fire these, okay, Nick?
Oh, my gosh.
Full screen it first.
Okay, this is just the eye.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm going to be fine.
Oh, my gosh.
She's still attractive on the right.
She peeped her eye.
She did something.
That eye.
X out.
X out.
Whole different shape.
Okay, let's do here.
Let's do.
Scroll down.
Oh, let's do the face tattoo one right there.
Full screen.
Full screen.
I think you can't.
Yeah, we'll just.
It's fine.
What the fuck?
Just skip ahead.
Just skip ahead.
I'm scared.
How many times does her teeth fall?
Okay, well, not honestly, that's fine.
The two Asian girls right there.
Full screen it.
Whoa.
Bro, that's that level of makeup.
That's cat fish.
How does that look from up close?
It might not look good up close.
That's a catfish.
I'm sorry.
Those are different.
They have fully transformed.
Oh, they also have a different case.
That's a major transformation.
I would not be able to tell.
Either of those girls, I would not be able to.
What is that?
Oh, I'm so sorry.
Exile that.
We're not going to do too many.
Shit.
That's crazy.
Scroll, scroll, scroll.
Specifically.
Keep going down, keep going down, keep going down.
Keep going.
This one, this one right there.
Huge difference next.
Oh, my God.
Huge difference.
The next one.
They're still all pretty without makeup, though.
Well, hold on.
I don't know.
That's like a random clip of her.
Like, she isn't even ready for that part.
Scroll down, Nick.
Let's do that.
Click on this Asian girl right now.
Oh my gosh.
I actually know her.
Yeah.
Big difference.
Exile that.
Exile that.
Yeah, that's it.
That's fine.
Whatever.
I don't know.
Makeup's fraud, I guess.
That's crazy.
They look different, but I think that's the thing.
It's like it's just different.
I don't know that it's objectively better, though.
Most guys don't like girls.
That's a pretty good point.
It's like a lot of men, don't like women when they wear makeup anyway.
When it's becoming like a false identity that you're using to date people and wear makeup, then maybe I should just start assuming that you look different.
Yeah, probably.
Honestly, men should just assume that all women wearing makeup are fake and probably not who they're representing themselves to be.
I don't think that that's a fair assumption either.
I think that maybe just assume that the person who's wearing makeup doesn't look the same when they take their makeup.
It's still deception.
That's what it is, and you should avoid a deception.
That's not fair to you.
Guys like it better without which a lot.
Every guy that I've talked to, they told me that they liked me better without it, but I don't wear it for them.
I wear it for me.
I don't waste my time if it's for me.
I'm not going to stand in front of a mirror for hours.
Afraid of Bren, but I like to do it.
I think your Instagram bio says that you're a lover of Christ.
Of course.
I am.
Are you going to pull up my Instagram?
Shouldn't we?
We should.
Guys, I'm not going to pull it up, but she's got some.
She's got some not very orthodox Christian.
Literally not her.
Bikini photos.
They're just on the screen.
Which is literally underwear.
You got side boob.
You gotta be like, yeah, every time.
Bottom boob?
Yeah.
Or like a pole.
It's bottom boob.
Like, just because I wear a swimsuit to the beach, you can't be Catholic.
Like, I'm not wearing.
I'm also wearing a skirt, too.
It'll be a bikini top and then a skirt or like a bikini top and shorts.
Like, a lot of people post just their bikinis and like their bottoms.
And I think it's normal.
It's normalized.
It's in today's culture.
But you know the type of attention that you're trying to get and that doesn't, that's not very orthodox Christian of you.
You have to admit.
Maba.
Yeah, it's not very.
Okay, well, I do it for myself.
Not for your religion, obviously.
Whoever, well, it doesn't say in the Bible not to wear a two-piece to the beach.
And that is a sin.
But if you think that, you can think that, but yeah, but posting the thirst traps correspondingly.
I mean, it's just looking good and posting photos automatically make it up.
Like attention-seeking behavior is pathetic.
Look, if you're just like an agnostic or atheist woman, like whatever, but if you're claiming to be a Christian, there is some like if that's your worldview, that's your belief system.
Yeah, it is kind of like there is a component of Christianity that demands modesty.
Although that's weird.
But I it would be like, for example, I don't have a problem with people who eat meat, but if you tell me you're a vegan and then I see you eating a steak, I'm like, why the fuck are you eating a steak?
I don't have a problem with people eating meat, but if you claim I believe this, judgment and criticism and what Christ would want, but that's not a truth.
That's just what you believe.
You got a theological church.
It interprets the Bible differently.
And I don't mean like inherently like every single person.
They literally do.
Like a lot.
Even if you're not going to be able to do that, that's objectively true, though.
That's true.
It's a whole lot scriptura.
I genuinely don't think wearing a bikini means that you're against like Christ.
Like that doesn't mean I'm not a Christian.
If I'm wearing a bikini, I post a photo in a bikini.
No, but that is.
I believe my behavior relationship with God is more attention.
If she's at the beach, that's not the doctrine of the Orthodox.
And I do, and I literally, I do follow my faith, and I do try my best to follow my faith.
But I feel like it doesn't, like, me posting a bikini picture, like, not even like bottom two.
I don't post a picture.
Just the bikini top.
Like, it's not a bad thing.
I don't care if you post a bikini picture, but if you're an Ethiopian Orthodox Christian, that's definitely against Orthodox Christianity to be fucking posting thirst traps on Instagram.
That's false claims.
It is a thirst trap.
It's half-naked photos.
Then why isn't it private instead of it?
Just for the sake of time, gotta move it on for the sake of time.
You said some white dude you went on a date with tried to get you into slave master roleplay.
Woo!
Yeah, that's oh my gosh.
That was ridiculous.
It was over.
No.
It seemed like the type who would do that shit.
I don't think you could waterboard that out of me.
That's crazy.
Behind closed doors, this girl does some crazy shit.
No, I don't.
Oh, my God.
Okay, that would like to be.
Anyways, ridiculous.
That's cool.
Thank you for sharing.
Dating should be 100% effort from the man and zero effort from the woman until marriage.
Wow.
Okay, wait.
Let me repeat.
How do you disagree?
Maybe 90-10.
Before marriage.
Before marriage.
Yeah, zero.
I was like, zero effort.
As in, like, the man is the provider.
He provides most of the things.
I don't see what man benefits from that at all.
So that's what I mean.
You also wrote, don't stop your man from finding your soulmate.
Yeah.
Say it.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
Say it again.
Don't stop a man from finding your soulmate.
Genuinely.
Why?
You shouldn't stop because there, I feel like there's so many people out there.
Like, if your man is stopping you from finding your true soulmate, then honestly leave him.
Yeah, I hope every guy that ever tries to see you sees this and runs, runs far, runs wide.
In your own words, can you say the thing about the 100 effort, zero effort thing?
Okay, let's rephrase 90-10.
It's not any better.
That's what you wrote here.
What you wrote here.
Okay, I believe.
Dating should be what?
Dating should be 100% effort from the man and 0% from the woman before marriage.
0% effort from the woman.
Changing it now, 90-10.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
You said your man has to wear a suit.
Your man has to wear a suit every day.
Yes, and I would, if he wears shorts, I'm ending it.
What the heck is wrong?
Because if you're.
I feel like swimming.
He has to go swimming in jeans.
If you're with her, she can't swim in a bikini.
I can't wear it.
Why are you posting?
I feel like you shouldn't be showing your buttocks like that as a man.
A self-respecting man isn't going and posting his bulge on Instagram.
But if he posted himself like topless when like swimming.
Wait, why is it?
It's still a thirst hat.
That's fine.
It's still a thirst tab.
Is it causing inappropriate for a man to tell his girlfriend to like maybe he doesn't like what she's wearing?
No, I don't know.
Is it appropriate for a man to say or is it inappropriate for a man to say wear something else?
Don't wear something so revealing.
Kylie, what do you think?
It depends what's so inappropriate about it because my ex would not fix the mic.
Sorry.
I mean, sometimes I think it's stupid.
Like my ex would not allow me to go in shorts, boots, and a white wife beater.
It was during summer.
It was July.
There's nothing inappropriate.
Is it controlling for a guy to be like, I don't want you dressing revealing?
Is it controlling?
Show of hands.
Just show of hands from the panel.
Show of hands.
Dude, my hand is low as it can go.
Why don't any of you object to her saying her man has to wear a suit?
That's objection.
Professional.
He's got to cover up.
I don't want him showing off his goods to everyone else.
Genuinely.
And you can.
Yeah.
That's hard.
We feel like it's critical.
We're going to blast through this.
We're going to blast through this so I can get people.
I can hopefully get this wrapped up soon.
Here's what we're going to do, guys.
Did I say that the TTS was dropped?
Yeah, to 100, I think.
No, I think I didn't say 69.
Okay.
Did I say it?
Maybe I didn't.
I already said it.
Oh, I didn't say it.
The TTS.
Guys, TTS is 69.
Get it in.
All right.
Joe Murphy, who here on the panel knows about the history of feminism.
Phase one, phase two, phase three.
Ladies, please define your definition.
Well, does anybody know the phases of feminism?
No?
Here, really quick show of hands.
Who here is a feminist?
Raise it high, Kylie.
Proud.
Be a proud feminist.
Raise your hand.
I don't really know the definition of feminism.
So are you a feminist?
Sure, I don't know.
You're a feminist?
But why?
My understanding of it, yes.
Anybody else a feminist?
Afraid of?
Stop.
You know my name.
Afraid of.
That's not nice.
It's like some Austin Powers joke there.
What's a fa uh to you then, since you're only the person, only person who responded?
What is your definition of feminism?
Um, I think just like equality.
Like, I mean, like, literally, simplistically, having the same, like, rights and opportunities as men.
And, like, literally just meaning, like, we have the ability to do and engage in the same things that men can, um, you know, with equal, like, consequences.
Like, I don't know if I want to go work in the mine, then, like, that's acknowledging I'm subjecting myself to working in a mine, but having the opportunity to, you know what I mean?
Just in general.
You want to have the opportunity to, but also don't want to do the thing that would make men and women equal, but okay.
We have some more chats coming up.
What is it?
Kind of what you said.
Joshua McCai donated $100.
I'm acknowledging I'll die in a mine if I work in a mine.
I've been watching the show for a while now.
Thank you, Joshua.
Reunion?
Big L.
I mean, yeah, you should offer more.
But that's not actual jobs.
Just leave it at that.
Others should offer more.
They should become a bad person.
We're talking about an actual building with actual management.
But you're right on the boat.
You're right on the boat.
That's actually true.
I didn't even think of that.
But yeah, like actual pasty jewelry.
Not a relationship.
$100.
That's not the version.
Women who wear makeup that drastically changes their looks have insecurity issues and have difficulty accepting themselves for who they are, including their natural looks.
Not true.
I like to have one with my makeup.
Me too.
I think it depends.
I just don't think you can convince me to sit in front of my mirror for three hours just so I can look nice going out into public folks.
Amazing.
When I started wearing makeup, it was out of insecurity.
I think it transitioned into more of a drink.
A real joy donated $69.
I glue caterpillars to my eyes, shave my eyebrows off to draw them on, inject my face so I don't have wrinkles.
Fill my lips so I look like a sucker fish.
Because I want people to love me for who I am.
And she looks real hot as hell, too.
A real woman.
Well put.
Thank you for that.
We have Joe Murphy coming in again.
Brian, we have Russian Orthodox chocolates for you.
Sounds tasty.
We can send you chocolates for each postmodern feminist on your panel.
Oh.
Yeah, one of those chocolates.
Yes, I would love some chocolate.
No, I think he's just sending me the chocolates.
I don't think he wants to be.
Joe Murphy's not sending you guys any chocolates.
You deserve all the goods.
You put up with us so much.
Pretty much.
Vector donated $70.
Yo, Vector.
Care 6.
Thank you.
Well, they should.
Like shrooms.
So they're actually living in reality.
No.
I went through more than you.
I've been through more ego deaths than you in this life.
I already know.
And everybody here, but it's fine.
I don't care about that.
I mean, they didn't care if they did Koresh dirty, though.
They did.
Quake.
I was going to say, Waco's a little crazy.
They did him dirty, you know, whatever.
Anyways.
Okay, blasting through the final things here on the questionnaire.
Alex, women are just as physically strong as men.
You agree with that?
Why is that?
I feel like that's, again, broad.
I think that it depends.
You think you could take either of the dudes in here right now?
Well, that's like the dudes in here.
I mean, if you threw me out against someone, pretty average dude.
Like, pretty average middle-aged guy.
That's a pretty average 20-year-old dude.
But I'm also like, I'm catching up.
You're well-built.
You're well-built.
You know, with all the self-respect, I'm a chronically ill.
I don't think I could beat anyone even my own size.
So that's just me.
I don't think most women could beat most men.
You also say women are.
Wait, hold on.
Women are just as physically strong as men, Afrida.
Okay, I was speaking in my case.
I wrestled, so I'd probably be able to take him down.
You wrestle.
Yeah, I did.
But you could take Nick out of the bed.
I really doubt it.
I really do.
You know that you're trying to press Nick instead of Brian.
I think you have a crush.
I think you have a bill.
No, because he's skinnier.
I think you could do it with a hand tied behind his back.
I would accept this challenge.
Well, please.
I put $5,000.
I will match that.
I've wrestled more than you.
I don't think you can film it.
I've wrestled bigger men than you.
Live stream wrestling.
Wait, do you do jiu-jitsu or like high school wrestling?
Yeah.
But I did club wrestling too for a year.
How many years?
A year?
Yeah, but we practice every single day.
That's a year.
Yeah, and I gained a lot of experience from it.
Okay.
Well, enough to take down a man.
No.
I don't know, Nick.
Have you doubted a man?
I've taken down a man before.
Did you wrestle in high school, Nick?
No, but I've wrestled all my friends that wrestle.
Okay, I believe in him.
He sounds a real wrestling.
Well, how long have you wrestled?
If you weigh like 100 pounds, you're literally a tooth thing.
Wait, hold on.
He's being honest.
Okay, but also.
That's too much of a college.
He does not weigh 100 pounds.
I don't.
Wait, so I wrestled in high school too.
So I'm a pretty good guesser when it comes to weight.
I want to say, wait, stand up and I can tell you.
Oh, I'm not going to guess.
Come on.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm not the weight game.
I'm sorry.
I'm not going to check you out.
I'm just to guess your weight.
I need to look at you.
I can tell you.
You don't have to guess it.
No, I want to guess.
Just look.
I'm 5'7.
Oh, yeah.
Remember, she's tall.
Yeah.
You're like 135.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
I was about to guess the 135.
What the shit.
Whoa, that's scary.
You literally got it right on the dog.
He's good.
That's crazy.
On the dog.
I'm scared.
Wrestlers can look at some and be like, they weigh this.
also i wrestled like when i was bigger like when i was you were fat i've you No, I was 150.
I was big.
I had a lot of muscle mass.
And then I cut down.
But when I was bigger, I was able to take down bigger men.
I was 5'2, by the way, back in the day.
When I wrestled.
Oh.
So we would have crossed paths and I would have just pinned you.
No, I would have beat you.
I've never known.
Here's what I would have done.
I would have just about teched you and then I would have pinned you.
Nice.
Nice.
No.
Do you know what teching somebody is?
No, I don't.
I don't.
I just want to see it.
I want to see it happen.
You know?
Do you know what teching?
No, I don't.
Explain.
Wait, you wrestled?
No, we wrestle.
I never used that term.
I've never used that term before.
Did you wrestle in California?
No, in Texas.
They don't have a...
Nope.
Never use that term.
So I forgot the exact number of points, but so in wrestling, you can either pin somebody to win, or if you score, I think it's 15 points.
Yeah.
So to tech somebody is to score 15 points more than tech.
Okay.
Oh, technical.
Is that tech?
I thought you meant.
Sorry, yeah.
You've never heard of a tech?
Technical.
Yeah.
To tech somebody.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, yeah.
I don't know why I thought you meant something else.
I would have photo wrestler just above, just right before a tech, and then I'd just go pin her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I want to see it happen.
I really do.
I don't, you know what?
I don't think so.
I don't know if, Nick, I'm down, but it's a very small studio space.
I mean, we should just move the table.
Move the table.
Oh, you know what?
Yeah, we could do a follow-up.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, because you're local, right?
Yeah, I'm losing.
Yes, yes, yes.
I'm still friends with like old high school wrestling, whatever.
So I'm a C. Maybe it's a new coach now.
Do it.
I think it's Nick.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
We're going to arrange it.
You're going to wrestle Nick.
Let's do it.
Please don't cut the camera when tears start growing.
All right.
Wait, tears?
Wait, so but you said women are just as physically strong as men.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Oh, no, I just explained it.
We'll see.
Because why?
No, I was just speaking in my experience personally.
What's your experience?
I'm just saying I would be able to physically take down most men.
No.
But so women are just as physically strong as men.
This is a general statement.
Generally.
If they're both the same age and the same weight, yeah.
No, absolutely not.
Same weight and same age.
Same weight, same age.
The woman is stronger?
I think that she has.
She has a chance.
Okay, let's insanity.
I'm just speaking in my case for the most part.
But yeah, maybe.
Okay, yeah.
Men are physically.
Wait, so Alex, you also said women are just as physically strong as men.
Can you clarify again?
Yeah, I mean, I said like situationally.
I think it just depends on the menu.
No, but generally.
Is it?
It's like, why do you think that we need like tasers?
Why do you think that we need pepper spray?
If I want to like nitpick, I'd say like no, just because it depends on what man and what woman you put in a room together.
But like generally, I mean, like, how about this?
Generally, are men stronger than women?
Probably, yeah.
I mean, like, yeah.
Probably.
I mean, like, that makes sense, though.
Like, you know, I don't feel like that's really like a sexist thing to say.
I mean, physically stronger than women.
Well, I just think like size-wise and also, like.
Well, I'm prepared to say that a woman of the same height and the same weight, the man is almost always still going to be stronger.
Doesn't that have to do with like scientifically, like muscle mass?
I agree, it does have to do with uranium.
Men naturally have more muscle.
Which, but then, and I feel like at that point, then it becomes a matter of like, you know, if you put like a man with more muscle naturally, like with a woman who has like, you know, combat training or something.
You know what I mean?
Like hand-to-hand, like they know like self-defense.
Like you might maybe probably is stronger in that scenario.
But like, yeah, like just right, but the question is a general one.
Like, I'm not going to say.
I'm not going to be able to answered, yeah.
Right, but I would agree that, yeah, there's definitely women who could beat up men.
There's definitely women who are stronger than men.
Me.
But, okay.
Generally speaking, most men are stronger than most women.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
Like, just.
She doesn't want to agree.
No, I mean, like, obviously, I think about like the technicalities.
I've been playing devil's advocate this whole time.
But like, yeah, if you put me in a room with a bunch of men, I'd probably be scared of like getting my ass handed to me.
Also, men are just more physically intimidating just to look at.
As women, we average, you could fit like two of our heads on our shoulders.
Men could fit like three of their heads on their freaking shoulders.
They are built to carry.
They are built to lift.
They are built to be powerful creatures.
Okay, next one.
Women can't be sexist.
And I think you skipped a few of us.
You guys didn't circle it.
Think of us all purposeful.
Women can't be sexist towards men.
I just agree.
Okay.
Okay.
Kylie, you agree.
Every time I. You didn't circle it, Bailey.
Oh, maybe I didn't.
If you wanted to participate in that segment, you should have circled it.
No, but Ruka, I do want to say something because as I was trying to say, is actually, it's proven that most women's lower body strength is actually stronger than men's upper body strength.
It's not true.
And men's lower body strength.
And actually, there's a test you could do with the chair.
There's a test you could do with the chair.
And I actually wasn't even thinking that, but I thought I did circle it.
But I just thought of that while we were speaking.
And that's actually a truth.
Yeah, because we did it with the biggest guy, the best football player, the biggest football player in my school, and me, and we did the chair test.
And I lifted it and he couldn't, because he has less lower body strength than me.
He couldn't.
Because of our hips.
The chair?
Yeah, you never heard of this?
We could do it now.
Anybody could.
But anyways, I just want to say that even though I didn't have a problem, the actual legitimate metrics measure leg strength.
It's like a whole, it has to do with our hips and how we have children.
But even if we were to grant.
So I just thought of that.
Even if we were to grant that whatever you're saying is true, I find it dubious.
You're not speaking about generalized lower body strength.
Yeah, no, I'm talking about every.
Yeah.
I was.
I was saying that.
Even, but okay.
See, there we go.
General, even men, when it comes to generalized lower body strength, so the legs, men are stronger than women in their legs.
I'm talking about from like here down.
Yeah, from there down.
Yeah, no.
Generally, if you've seen most women, most women I see have bigger legs and hips than almost every man I know.
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
On average, on average, which you're saying is the same with the ones.
Yep, it is, but okay.
You don't like it when someone goes against you with the same thing.
I just noticed that.
Oh, yeah, because I'm not.
I just said, let's do the chair test.
And it's a scientific proof.
It's a scientific proof.
Then why are men faster sprinters than women?
Why do men run faster than women?
Because their upper body strength too has to go and play with it.
That's why.
It is.
Oh, you guys didn't know that?
Oh, it's really easy to get and realize we're running on all upper body strength.
Yeah, you run with every part of your body, literally every part of your body, not just your legs.
If you think that, then you need to look up the scientific proof.
Wait, wait, wait.
You're telling me that if we were.
Like you guys say to us, look up the scientific proof because it's easy to look at everything I'm saying.
Yeah, about the chair and fucking batch of crazy.
Let me look at the chip.
If we were to hide.
So your arms have nothing to do with it in your upper body at all.
Shut up and let's finish before you go through.
Yeah, that's really, that's really.
Yeah, because you keep interrupting.
It's rude that you're interrupting.
You were interrupting me too.
So that's rude too.
We're both through.
I'm going to interrupt you.
We're both through.
I'm the host of the show.
You've been interrupting all night.
Yeah, because you keep trying to skip over.
When I say interrupting.
You didn't circle the thing.
Otherwise, you wouldn't.
I know, but then I said, hey, I want to say something.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe you should have thought of that when you were answering the questionnaire, lady.
Okay, ego.
So, if we were to cut off the upper body of men and assuming they could survive this procedure, because you're saying, well, men's upper body strength helps them with sprinting.
Yeah.
Okay, perhaps there's a component of sprinting that does involve the upper body movements.
However, if we were to chop off the upper bodies of men and women, men would still win in the sprint due to their greater capacity.
Or because they're smaller down there usually than most women, not because of strength.
No, they're not.
Come on, most runners, they have small, skinny legs that are guys like that, most of them.
Sprinters are smaller than that.
Like long distance, except for the 100 meters.
That's the only time that this doesn't go into play.
The only time, but most of the other races, they have smaller legs.
And with the long distance, they don't.
No, they don't.
Yep, because I'm just making all this up.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Squats.
Yep, because I'm just making.
You can't easily look up anything I'm saying.
No, well, I have proof.
Deadlifts, men can lift more.
Squats, men can lift more.
Yep.
And their arms too.
It's with their legs.
And this is a primary lower.
This is a lower body.
It's their back.
It's their back.
It's everything.
If you don't think that, okay, then men can leg press more than women.
Maybe not on.
I don't know about average, but I'm on average.
Exactly.
You don't know.
Yeah, but you guys don't know either.
You're just generalizing stuff too.
No, because everything I'm saying, you can actually look up too, just like everything you're saying.
Yeah, but.
You realize that?
Yeah, but they're in the gym all the time.
And I talked about here down.
Talk hips down, not just legs only.
What you're yeah, because you're going off topic.
You're going off topic because you know I'm right and you don't like it that I'm right.
And you're trying to go off topic.
No, you're freaking down.
You can't take you can't take the same, you can't take the same thing you dish.
No, you're just wrong.
Oh, yeah, okay.
You're just wrong, lady.
I'm so wrong.
Yeah, okay.
Anyway, every single metric by which we measure strength, men outperform women.
Nope, not the hips and not the legs.
Just the hips.
Oh, yeah, do it right now.
Let's do the chair test.
See, you don't even want to do it.
I already said, and you said no.
That wouldn't prove anything.
Okay, yeah, because if it's happening physically, that's not proof.
Yeah, okay.
See how that's really problematic and really not honest?
Henmaker says men on average have 40 to 60 stronger, lower body strength than women.
I didn't say legs only.
I said from here down.
That's what legs are.
I said hips down, but you guys are just saying, referring to leg lifts.
And I don't know, but anyways, bro, the only stronger muscle a woman has is her fucking tongue because they don't talk some crazy shit.
It's literally their actual hips, too.
And like, it's this thing.
Kylie loves that.
Because a guy kind of.
If you guys are both, if your heads are both against the wall and the chairs right here, you're both like this with a chair, the guy would not be able to lift it.
And maybe it has to do with arms too.
I don't even know, but he won't be able to lift it.
And the girl does.
That's the only time that that where that doesn't go into.
Okay, that's all I'm trying to say.
Is that hold on?
That's all I'm trying to say.
It's still the truth.
Okay, even if there's one exercise that like women can do better for like and I never I didn't even circle it.
I just thought of that though.
Right, but for okay, for example, here's me being charitable.
There's one specific long-distance racing event, like it's really long distance, where women do outperform men.
I can't remember the exact distance it is, but it's a long distance running event.
Yeah, I didn't say that.
I'm just saying in that case, that doesn't negate the fact that in all other measurements of lower body physical strength, whether it's running, whether it's weightlifting, whether it's just any other measurable way of how people measure leg strength, lower body strength, whatever, men outperform women.
I don't know, but you have to see because most of them are working out constantly.
Most of the women aren't working out constantly.
I can't keep saying that.
Because if the women, no, because if the women are working out, if the women are working out just as much as these men, which on average, more men are working out their lower body.
See, you don't like to be wrong.
You don't like to be wrong.
I'm not wrong, lady.
You're fucking wrong.
You don't like to be wrong.
I'm a Gen Z black Christian and have a desire to get married one day.
I honestly see hope for our generation in regards to relationships.
Also, any prayer requests?
Please pray for all these ladies.
And them too, because they don't see that they're just as much of a problem as most women.
Pasty George.
For the world.
Right.
For the whole world.
Right.
I would pay to see Chair Five wrestle Nick.
We're going to do it.
Greece.
Stay tuned.
She's going to lose.
I'm going to win.
She might.
I think I heard tears in his voice when you're talking about it.
I say 50-50.
I want to say no.
I say it's 50-50.
I agree.
Yeah.
I'll tell those.
He looks tall.
Wait, are you over six foot?
Pasty George.
Nick is a giga chat.
He's like six foot six.
Yeah, okay, wait.
You know what he is?
Wow.
You don't notice how tall he was?
She got so.
I thought he looked like a bad thing.
Wait, guys, Wait, how about this?
Forget physical strength.
In a fight, who's more likely to win?
The man.
The woman.
Whoa, me.
Depends.
Oh, my God.
It depends.
The woman who's elected?
Wait, the girl next to you seems that she wants to milk you.
Yeah.
Switch chair and help.
Guys, she's married.
Don't say that.
I like that.
She got the ring.
She's just enthusiastic about the topics tonight.
Thank you, Louie.
We have Vector here coming in.
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I am pretty sure that you believe you are a god yourself.
We all are.
We all are.
Another drug user told me Christianity teaches this too.
Yeah, we all are.
And I'm not Catholic.
I, yeah, we all are gods, but I don't see myself as God because that would not be the truth.
But yeah, we all are gods.
Oh my god, who the hell?
The people that, because the people that don't care, they subject themselves to a lower freak, like a lower everything.
Like, they just belittle themselves in every way.
So they don't love themselves as much as someone like us.
See how rude they are to me?
They always do this every time.
But they expect way more respect in return.
It's crazy.
They expect above and beyond, but they can't even give a little bit of respect.
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C4, Decepticon.
C5, Cap and Cat Lady Thought.
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C7, Delulu Thought.
C8, Bass Tie-Dye Shirt.
Huge dumpy breed.
What is that?
GTA hooker.
Why is it my cat lady?
I'm just sitting here.
I mean, it could have been.
Why am I a cat lady thought?
Maybe it's the outfit?
I don't know.
He could have said you're like a vice city hooker.
Oh, vice.
Evil.
That's GTA.
Yeah.
Or like GTA.
That's the one where you open the game and she's got a lollipop, right?
Oh, boy.
This is George coming for you.
Care 6.
You already convinced us.
That I'm the smartest person in here because I live in all reality and no one can understand me.
Stop talking over the reality.
Let it come through.
Then respond.
Oh, sorry, my bad.
Yeah, that I live in more reality because I don't.
I'm not just red pill and I'm not just blue pill.
And I'm not disrespectful either.
What you think?
I'll stand up for what's right, but I'm also not like.
Here, let me move it on so I can wrap this wrapped up.
Women can't be sexist towards men.
Alex, you agree.
Kylie, you agree.
Queen D, you agree.
Can't be.
That's it.
Why is that?
I feel like I'm probably not equipped enough to speak in detail on that.
I think it's just more so the case of like misandry versus like full-blown like misogyny and sexism.
So you think that misogyny is worse?
Hold on.
Before I have your way in, let me hear from the other panelists, Kylie.
I don't know why I circled that one.
Just, yeah.
Because you believe it, but no, I actually searched it up on the internet before and it said, I don't know.
You can't.
I don't know.
You searched it up?
Like, what did the internet say?
It says that women can be sexist towards men, so I'm just like, can or can't?
It said they can, so I was just like, okay.
Do you believe that, though?
No, I think I circled it wrong.
No, no, no.
But do you believe women can be sexist towards men?
I mean, they can catcall.
I don't know.
That's just sexual harm.
You are so fucking annoying.
I honestly don't care what you think.
I don't.
You're 24 years old and you're the most annoying person in here.
Oh, no.
Genuinely.
Oh, my God.
Like, I just want to go home.
And you keep fucking talking like you're the fucking guy interviewing us.
Generally, shut the fuck up.
I feel like I'm the only one who actually watched the show because you guys keep talking about it.
I don't care about anyone's opinion at this point.
You're so fucking annoying.
You can leave.
I don't care either.
Oh, my God.
You are such a baby.
Holy shit.
You're the one being a baby.
You're whining like a little bitch.
I'm whining like a little bitch because you keep fucking arguing about the stupid shit.
It's damn criticism.
We're on a Sunday night.
I want to go home.
Go home.
Oh, my God.
Fine, I will.
You're so fucking annoying.
Hold on.
What do you think about me?
You're fine.
I don't really have this.
Oh, wow.
Yo, Kylie's my fucking homie.
Kylie is my half Caucasian because you're part Japanese.
You're my Caucasian, Kylie.
The white party.
Caucasian.
You're my Caucasian.
You know, like how black people say, you're my.
I can't say it.
You could say, I give you the pass.
No.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I'm taking your Ethiopian pass.
What do you mean, though?
We're the OG blacks.
No, I know.
I'm just saying, I'm not going to take the pass.
You're giving me the pass.
I'm not going to take the pass.
So, Kylie, because you're half white, you're half my Caucasian.
Should we dab it up later?
How do you, I don't know.
I'm too white to do that, actually.
I'll give you a professional handshake.
Nice.
Tell me how you really feel, Kylie, though.
I just want to go home.
Everyone keeps arguing.
I don't care about anyone's opinion at this point.
I just want to go home.
Damn.
I know.
You keep changing your opinion like four or five times.
We'll tell you what, Kylie.
Here's what we're going to do.
Kylie, we're going to do round two, and then we'll get into all this.
And then you can give us an update on your love life in like three months.
Okay.
And all the gay guys you've dated.
Okay?
Kylie, give me your word that you're going to give us an update in three months and we're going to have a blast, a blasty blast, and you're going to be like, Brian, the amount of gay men that I have dated here in Santa Barbara.
It's been great.
That's what you're going to tell me.
Okay.
She's tired.
So I'll move.
So, okay.
It was women can't be sexist towards men.
Why is that?
I think I read that wrong.
Oh, okay.
Okay, Alex, anything?
One thing?
I guess I'm the only one.
I mean, it's literally just the difference between like misandry and like sexism.
I mean, there's like, it's rooted in deeper things, like the same thing between like racism versus like prejudice.
But hold on, how about this?
What it's rooted in?
Would you say it's sexist?
A man kills a woman because she's a woman.
Sexist?
Yes.
Woman kills man because he's a man.
Sexist?
I guess that defeats my point.
I mean, like, yeah.
Okay, checkmate.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We have a few more here.
A few more here.
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Oh, funny boo.
I love you.
Thank you for watching.
White t-shirt.
Thank you for that.
I appreciate it.
Wait, Kylie, I really was impressed there by your, you were really vulnerable.
I was thinking about it for like an hour.
Do you have any heat smoke for any of the other panelists here?
I do, but I'm not going to call it.
Kylie, come on.
Who?
It might be Brian.
Is it her?
No, I don't care.
Kylie, please.
Okay, go ahead.
Please tell me.
No, everyone was making good points.
Like, I. Kylie, I know you shoot from the hip.
You're an honest person.
You're an honest person, Kylie.
And you know what?
You're probably never going to see any of these women again.
Here, just whisper it.
Who is it?
Who do I not fuck with?
Yeah, who do you dislike here?
I don't, you know, I don't dislike any of them.
They all know.
Oh, they all made good points, but I think I'll tell you the people who I fuck with the most is Alex and Chair 4.
Who do you fuck with Elise, though?
Elise?
Not saying.
I changed my mind.
It's not.
You already talked about it.
It's okay.
I already got called by her.
Oh, it's her.
Wait, it's Bailey, isn't it?
No.
Kylie?
I'm not going to say.
I know when you're lying.
Want to go home?
Kyla, when you're lying, okay, anyways.
All right, we have Vector here.
I'm tired.
Woo!
Vector the nature of the city.
Thank you, Vector.
1-1 was a race horse.
2-2 was 1-2.
1-1-1-1 race.
2-2-1-1-2.
1-1 race 2-2.
Neck to neck.
Stride for stride.
And at the line, 1-1-1-2-2.
That's a tongue twister.
I'd have to write that out to be able to make sense of it.
All right, next thing.
Next thing.
There's just a few more guys.
We're almost there.
We're at the finish line, boys.
At the finish line.
Which would always be won by a man because that was a stupid joke.
Okay.
You can't win them all.
People of color can't be racist towards white people.
Alex, you agree.
Same point, Kylie agrees.
Afraid of spiders agrees.
Oh my gosh.
Why?
Same point that I was making earlier, except this time I actually think that it's like maybe more valid.
But the difference between racism versus prejudice and what it's rooted in.
Hmm.
Wait, so.
Because when you're like, oh, I don't like you because you're white, there's not like a historical backing of like, I don't know how to explain that properly because I'm not, I feel like, equipped to, I'm white.
I don't feel like this really fits.
Are Spanish people white?
Oh my God, why does everyone always talk about like the Spanish colonization whenever people talk about like black people in slavery?
It's literally like, why?
Why are we comparing slavery?
Well, I'm talking about the Muslim conquests into Spain.
Why?
Like, conviction.
Did you think only white people were like conquerors and stuff?
That's not what I'm saying.
Okay.
I'm saying like historically.
Like, I mean, like, yeah.
Like, I don't even know how to address this in a way that's adequate or appropriate because I'm literally white.
I don't even feel like that.
Why would that matter?
Because is that really my place to say anything?
I don't experience racism and I don't really get mad when people call me crackers.
Could you?
Wait, wait, just avoid that term just because of the platform.
It's okay.
You didn't know.
Is it possible that you could experience racism?
I don't know that I would feel like it's racism, though.
Like, if it was directed at me, I mean, because I've been made fun of her being like, especially with how pale I am, and that's never really bothered me because it's not coming from a place of hurt.
It's not coming from a place of like at no point has me being white stopped me from like being able to like get a job.
You know what I mean?
Or like being able to like.
How would you know that?
I'm pretty damn sure.
I mean, what if there's affirmative action practices that have preferential hiring practices for hiring people of color over white people?
Although this typically impacts white men, not so much white women.
Most of this DEI shit's for white people.
Well, I was also going to say, like, most DEI initiatives have been proven to benefit, I mean, like, white white women, white, like, lesbian women.
Normally, it's like LGBTQ, well, not necessarily, but like, LGBTQ people, but white people generally solace minorities.
Which, that's another thing is, like, how are you going to have DEI initiatives and then like absolutely not engage in them and then also then go and shut them down?
Like, I think that's just a whole separate issue of like you do know the origination of the term slave.
No, I don't.
The origination is white people were enslaved, like Slavics.
That's the origination of the term.
Barbary slave trade, like, white people have been slaves.
I'm aware.
You're aware?
I mean, like, I'm aware that white people have been slaves.
Not aware of where the terminology came from.
So thank you for educating me.
So for, I guess, on this, people of color can't be racist.
Also, Afraya, you also.
Oh, my gosh.
Why can't people of color be racist towards white people?
I put defense.
I feel like you can only be racist if you're like, oh, I don't want you sitting at this table because you're white.
No, there aren't any slurs or any of that.
I don't believe in that.
Yeah, that's it for the most part.
Okay.
Slurs don't exist, but they can still get you canceled somehow.
So could a black person be racist towards a white person?
Yeah, if they're like, oh, I don't want you sitting at this table because you're white.
Or what if they commit a crime against them?
Like an assault?
Because they're white.
Because they're white?
Well, you can't do that.
That's racist.
Well, you can do that.
No, I'm saying it's racist.
So black people can be racist towards white people then.
In some cases.
Like, for example, I forgot.
Was this in Boston or somewhere?
This just happened like a day or two ago.
A black man like stabbed a white Ukrainian woman to death on like a train or subway or something.
I don't know the motivations necessarily, but let's say he did it because she was white.
Would that be racist?
Yeah.
I just hope that's.
Okay, so black people can be racist towards white people.
In some cases.
Alex, anything on this?
I really don't feel like I have any room to talk about it.
Okay.
Women are the primary victims of war, not men.
I think one person.
Oh, Bailey, you think women are the primary victims of war, not men?
Why is that?
By the way, we just have three or four more guys just letting you know.
Currently, I guess, but I wouldn't say in all of history, I'd say more currently, like spiritually and physically.
Although, if you're talking about actual war, never mind, because there's more men fighting in them.
Although now the women are rising, I guess, along with that.
You know, I didn't think about that.
I was thinking spiritually, but if you take into both, then it's probably about the same.
It's probably about the same.
The same, even though, like, tens of millions of more men have died.
Yeah, but spiritually, there's more war against women, I feel like.
So that's why I guess I circled that.
Yeah, but this is reality.
Who fights us?
But this is reality.
When I'm talking about that.
But this is reality, all of reality.
That's why I talk about both.
I don't talk about just physical or just spiritual.
I talk about both.
When I'm talking about war, I'm talking about military conflict.
You never specify that.
Maybe you should specify it in the question next time about physical war.
Physical war.
Specify it next time.
Yeah.
Watch!
Yeah, because it's not like we're just physical beings with no souls.
Unless you don't have a soul, you might not, but I do.
That's why I base it off of that.
Let's make it about military conflicts, physical war.
Who's the primary victim of war then?
Probably men because they're fighting.
Okay, cool.
Thank you for answering the question.
Appreciate it.
But in reality, both.
About equally.
Okay, cool.
Men and women more spiritual.
That's great.
Men are more privileged in society than women.
Alex, you agree.
Chloe, you agree.
Kylie, you agree.
Queen D, you agree.
Bailey, you agree.
Okay, that's it for that.
Why?
Why are men more privileged in society than women?
Two more after this.
I think it's getting better, obviously, like has been, but I think just like opportunistically.
And then also just in like the matter of like I don't know.
I feel like general ways that people view women, especially right now, is like not really great.
I think that men have very strong opinions and generalizations about women.
I think vice versa, too.
But I think that they're just like, I don't know.
It's like really, it's kind of hard to be a woman right now.
And I don't mean that in like.
I mean, but like genuinely, like, oh my God.
Can you name any other point in history where it was when women had any more freedom, more choice, more opportunity than today?
I don't think that that negates the fact that we still are not where we could be as a society.
Because obviously, I'd hope that right now we're better off than we were like 100 years ago.
Like, I would really, really hope so, considering society in general has progressed.
You know, like, I would hope because it would be like not beneficial to anybody to keep us where we were at.
Okay.
Why do you think this?
I think that's the reality, but I don't against it.
I respect it.
Kylie.
I also think that's just always been the reality.
And just based on the graphs I've seen from last year's.
Kylie, what do you think of Erica?
Her.
Oh, I mean, she's made great points.
I didn't disagree with them.
I just didn't like her attitude.
Okay.
I guess I'm smiling too much.
I think my mom.
Maybe you guys should have a wrestling match, too.
Yeah.
You guys are the same as you guys.
Round one, I think, right?
I don't know.
I think men just do have more opportunity.
More opportunity.
It's always been like that.
Men more privileged.
Yeah.
Okay.
Afraid of.
Oh my gosh, Brian.
Afraada.
Afraada.
She's afraid of Nick.
No.
She's afraid of Nick.
That's not.
Nick's going to wrestle this.
I'll be one.
Yeah, and I'm going to win.
I will 100% win.
I'm going to be tuning in to words.
You guys better be having them go down.
I'm going to view my podcast if Nick loses.
Wait, hold on.
Wait.
Say that.
Say hold up.
Say it.
Let's see here.
Okay, men are more privileged in society than women.
Why is that?
Oh, me?
Oh, I said that?
Yes, Queen.
Wait, wait.
Or wait, no, you didn't.
Oh, my God.
Bailey did.
I'm sorry.
How are men more privileged in society than women?
Just, I guess, because most of the rulers have been men physically.
That's the rulers.
Ever, yeah.
More privileged.
I want to say in all of the world history, I'd say current evolution history, yes.
But that's also because the last few avatars were men.
I think it's a lot of privilege.
We got a woman here.
She done at least $300,000.
I didn't make them.
And she said you didn't say that for no reason.
Yeah.
You're acting like she didn't give her parts of herself away, like her soul, her deepest part.
You know what?
Which are actually priceless, but you're acting like she gave nothing, which is crazy.
Most of these simp dudes out here, they'll give you money and never get, and they never get the pussy.
You fucked up.
I know.
I was doing charity.
Chloe, you fucked up.
You should have held the pussy back.
You should have held the pussy back.
You gave the pussy too soon.
Like most of these hustler girls, they never give the pussy.
I know.
From now.
I just learned better.
Yeah, when they say, do you do meetups?
No.
I just learned.
All right.
I'm going to mostly skip my response on this.
I actually, I don't think men are more privileged in society than women.
I think in a lot of ways, women are more privileged than men.
I agree.
I could list a couple different things here.
But, you know, look, we could look at affirmative action.
We can look at the positive life outcomes, negative life outcomes.
Women are much more likely to go to college.
Men are less likely to get a college education.
Men are more likely to be homeless.
Are more likely to unalive themselves.
Men are more likely to encounter police brutality, police killings.
They're more likely to be incarcerated.
They're more likely to have a bunch of negative life outcomes.
They're more likely to die on the job.
It's not clear to me that, broadly speaking, men in totality are more privileged in society than women.
It might be the case that there's an apex of men, the top 0.0001% of men, that have like some better life outcomes than a large swath of women.
But I think the average man fares worse than the average woman.
Moving on, though, final two.
Women are oppressed in the USA.
Alex, you think women are oppressed in the USA.
Kylie, you say women are oppressed in the USA.
And I believe that is Bailey, women are oppressed in the USA.
Why is that?
I think the same as what I said last time.
I think that just have very harsh views and critics consistently about how we have to be and how we have to behave over everything.
So are women oppressed in the USA?
Yes.
How?
Well, I was getting into that.
But I don't know.
Just give me two.
These feel like the same questions over and over.
Wage gap.
It doesn't exist, but yeah, okay.
And dude, I don't know.
Are you oppressed?
Me personally?
No.
Why not?
Because I lead a thankfully very privileged life.
How so?
Because your parents are rich.
No, they're not rich.
My mom just works very, very hard for her income and is very generous.
All right.
Going to Kylie.
Are women oppressed in the USA?
Don't change your answer, Kylie.
Stick to your guns, Kylie.
I believe in you.
Do better than me.
Do you speak Japanese, by the way?
I know how to introduce myself.
Just do it.
I'm going to do it in an American accent.
That's fine.
Do it.
you're a fucking legend kylie um Are women oppressed in the USA?
I think so.
Are you oppressed?
What does oppressed mean again?
Very unjust, very unjust treatment, typically by like a government or the state.
Oh, should I Google it?
You want me to Google it?
No, no, it's fine.
You can just skip me.
It's go.
Prolonged, cruel, or unjust treatment or control.
Okay.
Skip.
Yeah.
Kylie, we have a rule here.
Can we get the hat?
We have a rule, Kylie.
If you do three skips, you have to wear the hat for five minutes.
Okay.
And then the whole time.
Chloe.
You have to spin the helicopter on the top, okay?
All right, Queen D. Women are oppressed.
Or no, that wasn't you.
Oh, wait.
That was Bailey.
Women are oppressed in the USA.
How?
I still feel like they are everywhere.
Yeah.
More than that.
Are you oppressed?
Yes.
At least in the line of work that I want to do.
Keep spinning.
Yeah, it's almost impossible to find someone like.
Oh, shit.
I did not mean to oppress that.
My bad.
I was.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Are you oppressed?
In the line of work I want to do, they're making it very, very hard.
And I don't want to use, I don't want to use like industry.
No, and everything.
Yeah, well, everything.
I don't want to like use force and manipulation and like evil do evil things like a lot of them are doing to get those positions.
But that's it's mostly men doing it, but women are doing it too.
So I'm not going to say like who was in their past life.
Who was he?
I have no idea.
Have you met him?
Okay.
Yeah, but I don't know who he was.
All right.
Final one.
Final one.
Oh, by the way, guys, by the way, we're going to end with a roast session.
The TTS is going to be lowered to $30.
$30 roast session.
Then we're wrapping, guys.
We got to get this wrapped.
I'm going to let some of these chats come through.
Chore XD donated $69.
Brian, you ever noticed that the women on panels tend to get more mad at other women who argue with them than men?
Even Andrew seems to command their respect.
I think women really hate detractors.
I think it's like a betrayal.
Yeah, right?
That's what I think it is.
A gender betrayal.
I was equally to both of them.
I was equally like this to both of them.
Me personally, but I dislike male feminists more than I dislike females.
I know, because they're just simps.
Women feminists.
It's like you're a gender traitor.
Yeah.
You're a gender traitor.
So I feel like women, there's this sisterhood.
And if a woman goes against the sisterhood, then I don't know.
Okay.
Christopher donated $70.
Care 6.
What you were referring to only has to do with the difference in the center of gravity between men and women.
Yes, it has nothing whatsoever to do with physical strength.
But then he can't pick up the chair, though.
That doesn't mean center of gravity.
He had a point there.
Yeah.
Physical strength.
And it is more common that a guy does actually work out his lower body, too.
So if a woman did it equally, that's what I was trying to say, too.
Pasty George donated $70.
Felicity, can you grab the wipes?
We'll do it.
We'll just do it right now.
Yes.
Guys, TTS30, they're back here behind me.
TTS30, Joshua, yours is coming in.
TTS30, and then final thing, then we're wrapped.
All right.
All right, guys, we're doing a segment called Makeup Removal.
I literally wear not eyebrows.
There's nothing on my face.
So, guys, pass it down, pass it around.
Oh, wait.
This is actually really great because I love my makeup remover at home.
Yeah, thank you for this.
Yeah, I did love you this time.
See, we're very, very generous here of whatever podcast.
I was going to have to go out and get some.
Yeah, you can do it now.
That's fine.
Joshua Mackay donated $30.
Sorry, this may be the Christian coming out of me.
Bailey, I would recommend reading the NLT New Living Translation of the book of Galatians in the Bible.
It's only six chapters.
It may help.
I'll pass because all the newer Bibles have all been influenced.
Like all, it's like the telephone game.
All the new ones have been changed so much.
It's like the fact that people actually take it as the full truth to me is insane, personally.
But hey, guys.
What if they don't come up?
Does Kylie look really striking in that hat?
Is it just me?
Is it just me, or does it really bring out the color of her eyes?
Like, it's just, anyways.
Okay.
Pasty George donated.
She's doing it.
Are you going to take your makeup off?
Remove your makeup or are you doing it?
And when you're done, hold it up.
Hold it up so we can see the damage.
I don't know where to go.
No, Red.
Spread them.
You're not going to do it afraid of makeup wipes?
Afraid of.
No, I'm not going to do it.
I don't know what this is.
I'm scared about what this will do to my skin.
It feels like really smart.
No, these are really primo makeup.
They're Kirkland brand.
Yeah.
You think Costco fucks around?
No.
Costco ain't that.
I'm not going to ride.
I catch myself around like a regular basis.
Like, that's one of the only things that make me.
It's top tier.
Oh, yeah.
Top tier Kirkland.
Oh, we have two women here who have braces.
Yeah.
Well, how's that?
Dating with braces?
I'm just curious.
There's the fetish.
Oh, yeah.
They're like braces.
They don't treat me differently the same.
I don't think I've ever, like, even when I was like 16, I don't think I've ever kissed a girl who has braces.
Huh.
Did you like not prefer it?
Or?
No, I just never.
Just never encountered a girl when I was that had braces.
Yeah, it's terrible.
I hate it.
I hate it.
Does it impact every single day?
I had them for four years.
Yeah, it does.
So you have to learn how to be extra careful because you don't want to give them a free wax treatment with your teeth, you know?
Free wax treatment?
Dude, because if hairs get stuck in your hold up, this is news to me, bro.
Hold up the uh, hold it up.
I can't see it.
Hold it up.
There it is.
I can't see.
The legend, the legend, Kylie.
All right, over here.
Look at that.
Okay, very beautiful.
You should sell that as a piece of art.
It is pretty.
Look at that.
That's like a butterfly.
She looks the same.
Take those lashes off, Bailey.
I'm not going to do it this time, but I will next time.
Okay.
Did you hold yours up?
Dude, my skin's probably so red right now.
I don't even know if I'm doing it.
No, your skin is flawless, girl.
Thank you so much.
I can't see.
I'm blind.
This side of the table is just so.
Oh my God.
You guys are so stunning.
My freckles are so stunning.
Kylie, stunning.
Alex, stunning.
Afraid.
Bitch.
I'm crying.
Chloe, beautiful.
Queen D.
Oh, my God.
I'm just like really happy to see her.
Oh, my God.
Look at this beautiful Dominican girl.
She is so cute.
I actually don't wear makeup.
Look at Bailey.
She's like a little ghost now.
Oh, my God.
She's like the cutest little donation I've ever seen.
Basically, the same.
Yeah, yeah.
That's why I don't wear it.
Oh, sorry.
There's going to be a lot of George donated $30.
Chair five, you're going to let chair six show you up like that.
I have some of my lashes on, so don't talk too much.
These other girls actually took all of ours off.
$30 TTS.
Final call, guys.
Get them in.
We're going to get this wrapped here.
Final question.
Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
Alex, you agree.
Oh, my God.
These are like the same.
Chloe.
No, it's different.
Chloe, you agree.
Kylie, you agree.
Queen D, you agree.
Afraid of Nick, you agree.
Why do you keep saying that?
You agree.
Why?
Starting with Alex here.
Oh, wow.
That is.
You look different.
You look different.
Gorgeous.
I just got my skin peeled off of my face.
Nice.
Does that come out, by the way?
The sepsin piercing?
Yeah, like really easy if I could.
No, my nails are broken.
Nice.
That's cool.
Yep.
Mary, just to get the door.
I feel nice.
Wait, okay, so Alex, let's blast through this last one.
Women do not have equal rights to men in the USA.
That's your position.
Yes.
Can you tell me a right that men have that women don't?
Probably autonomy.
Not true, but I mean, like, give or take.
Okay, well, here, I'll let everybody else answer, then I'll come back to that.
Okay.
Go ahead, Chloe.
I think I confuse the word right with power because, for example, there's a real example at my line of work being at car sales.
When a customer came in and they look at a male or a guy sales, they will already assume, oh, this guy know about cars.
But if they see me, they will assume I don't know anything about car.
Yeah.
But I do like cars and I know about cars, but they will just assume, already assume I don't know about car.
And they will.
So when we're talking about rights, we're talking about like some like laws or the government or something.
Maybe not like legally.
Okay, Kylie, what is a right that a man has that the woman does not?
I actually don't know any.
I was just thinking of like power in certain industries.
Word.
I'm proud of you, Kylie.
Queen D, what about you?
Also saying just like power.
But what's the right?
You say women do not have equal rights.
What is the right that they don't have equal access to?
Sorry, can I skip this?
Put the hat on.
Afraid, afraid of.
Oh, okay.
So.
What rights do men have that women don't?
I wouldn't say rights in sense of privilege.
Kylie, spin it.
It's not embarrassing.
I feel like they have more privilege because I feel like more men make more money than women.
So I feel like in that sense, that makes them more privileged.
But it's not about privilege, it's about rights.
What rights do men have that women don't?
Hmm.
Mmmm. Mmmm.
Eternity later.
I feel like I need more time to think about this.
It's not fair.
Bailey.
Presidency and even most first women can become presidents.
I know, but we haven't had one, so that's why it might be evidence.
But we haven't had one.
And actually, a lot of the first ladies are also transgender as well.
But that's a story for another time.
That's like more of a satanic thing that they make them do, but that's a story for another time.
Anyway.
So you're saying Michelle Obama is trans?
Yeah, a lot of them are.
And then it's actually, a lot of them are doing satanic rituals, so that's why they have to do it because it's like that's why they put them in these positions of power.
You're right.
Women can do it too, but...
Yeah, but what rights do men have that women don't?
But also, I know there's women that are doing fucked up shit like this, so I wonder if they haven't became president, and I don't know if they want to be.
We're almost there.
Finish level.
Yeah, I just said leading, more like the leadership roles.
Women, while there hasn't been a female president, women can be president.
Yeah, but it's not fair and it's not set up correctly.
But women have the right to.
Yes, but it's not actually happening, so that's the problem.
It could happen.
Yeah, it could happen if it gets if the whole government gets taken over by someone that makes it fair.
It could.
Okay.
So the only one I'm really going to bite on is yours, Alex.
Bodily autonomy.
I just want to add to that, too.
So you're talking about like abortion.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, you do realize that abortion rights are secure in various states in the U.S.
But that's not universal.
It's not a need to state, though.
Right.
That should be.
Hold on.
And then as far as men, you say men have bodily autonomy.
I'll give you three examples that men don't.
Maybe even four examples that men don't have bodily autonomy in this country.
The first is forced military conscription, the draft.
Only men in the United States can be forced to be drafted.
They can be forced to find a military conflict.
This happened as recently as the Vietnam War, which there are men alive today who were drafted, who are alive.
Some of them are alive.
They have PTSD, they have injuries, major, serious, life-altering injuries.
There's also men who would have been alive today, but they were drafted and now they're dead.
So that definitely relates to bodily autonomy.
The government can force you to go fight a war that you don't want to.
And then, in addition to that, even though there's not currently like a draft currently, men are still subject to it.
And if men can't vote, if they're not registered for the selective service, it's technically a felony.
You can face jail time for it.
There's a massive like $250,000 fine.
You're barred from certain federal programs, certain federal jobs.
You can't get student loans.
There's some other negative ramifications too.
If you fail to register for the selective service, this only impacts men, and it's directly related to bodily autonomy.
Number two, overwhelmingly, men in this country are circumcised upon birth.
So their penises, their genitals, baby boys' genitals are mutilated upon birth.
I think this is a barbaric practice.
I don't think people should be circumcised.
Perhaps when they're 18, they can make that determination when they're 18.
But when you're a little baby, you obviously can't.
I have such big feelings about that.
But this would be a pretty severe, this would be a pretty severe way in which men's bodily autonomy is treaded, or well, males, baby boys' bodily autonomy is treaded upon by society.
There's an overwhelming social acceptance of cutting off parts of a baby boy's penis.
Major objections there.
And then also, I would say, as it relates to bodily autonomy, we've done away with debtors' prisons.
So if you owe a debt to somebody, you can't go to prison for it.
We've done in the past, if you owe the debt to like a company or somebody else, there's historically you could go to prison, you owe a debt to the government, you could go to prison.
We've done away with it, with the sole exception, and this almost universal, almost exclusively impacts men, child support.
So men who fail to pay child support, some of them do it willingly, some of them are deadbeats, some of them simply can't afford or aren't capable of earning money to pay child support.
We will put men in prison, taking away their bodily autonomy for what is a debt, and we don't consider any other debts to warrant any sort of prison sentence or taking away your bodily autonomy.
So there's that.
And then this is kind of a sad, I don't know if it's totally the case, but I could make an argument that because, and this could, look, a lot of men commit crimes and they do so willfully, but because there is bias in the court system, men are much more likely to go to prison.
For, you know, if you compare a man who commits a crime versus a woman who commits a crime, women are way likely much more likely to get off.
They're more likely to get probation.
They're more likely to get a punishment that doesn't resort to prison sentences, whereas men are more likely to get prison sentences.
So while a lot of crime involves action that somebody intentionally took, the state is more likely to take away a man's bodily autonomy than a woman's.
But that's kind of like a throwaway one that isn't like my strongest argument.
My strongest argument are the first three.
So there you go.
Which I feel like are all valid examples.
I just, for me, it feels like a different argument as far as like autonomy goes.
Because just my opinion on, you know, like carrying a you know thing inside of you for nine months and what that does to your body, not only during the pregnancy, but after the pregnancy.
And then if you don't have, you know, the opportunity to get an abortion when that's something that you think that would be most beneficial for not only you, but you know, maybe your future baby situation.
I feel like when you start talking about, well, oh, like adoption, or like, oh, like, then you're adding another human being into this world that then will actively get traumatized by a system that does not care for it adequately because the foster system is like beyond messed up.
Um, or even if you were to straight away like adopt your kid into a family, there's still that, you know, growing up and wondering, like, why didn't my mom want me?
Why didn't this?
Why didn't that?
When you could realistically remove the traumatization of a child that doesn't even need to be in this world right now, but instead we're actively traumatizing like two people in the process.
But men don't have that.
Men don't have reproductive rights.
So I don't think that that's a good example of the inequality.
I think that goes to show how much more privilege women actually have.
And also, tubal litigations are supposed to are currently becoming more and more of an independent practice.
So you can do that without your husband's approval.
But men are still having to get approval from their partners for vasectomies.
Also, the bodily autonomy thing, because of the differences in biology between men and women, of course, women are the only people who can get pregnant, but I don't think that would necessarily reflect an inequality of rights between men and women.
If it was the case that, for example, a man, and I don't think this should be the case, a man could dictate that a woman gets the abortion.
Like, maybe she doesn't want to get the abortion.
But if the man says, I want you to get to the abortion, but the woman couldn't choose to get an abortion, that would be an inequality.
But I just fail to see how it's an inequality of rights.
Like, men don't have reproductive rights like she.
Well, that's also what I was going to say, though, is like, just on that topic of like tubal litigation or being like, or sorry, yeah, like being something that you can do on your own.
I mean, as far as I'm aware, I don't think that there's like a medical reason why you would need a vasectomy other than just to not reproduce it.
It's also less invasive than a tubal litigation.
But that was my other thing: I think that the reason that you can do tubal litigation without, I mean, thankfully, without needing a partner's consent, is because that's more of a life-saving situation.
Like, some people need that, right?
Like, emergency hysterectomies.
Yeah, but a lot of women are just doing it just because nowadays.
I gotta wrap it here, guys.
Well, at least on the topics, we're gonna let some of these final chats come through, then we're out of here.
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All these girls could do so much better for themselves if they just changed their ways and views entirely.
Be more like the base tie-dye girl.
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Didn't mean to.
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Thank you Brian, for bringing chair six.
Another wake-up call for how twisted some people are.
Yes, living in a beautiful existence of reality, so twisted of actual reality, not just physical, which is not true, because you have a soul, unless you don't, like I keep saying, if you're soulless, I don't even know how you would be here.
But maybe you don't have souls, maybe you don't, although I think you were Hitler in your past life.
But let's not talk about that.
What is going on?
and it would make sense if you had a podcast if you were Hitler in your past life because he yeah it would make sense is it because I have an undercut is that it's because you had more look at all the war books and then like and you have strong opinions but I'm not again I'm not completely against Hitler like and what he was trying to do I just didn't go about it in the wrong way white t-shirt no bra
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I'd like to leave that one.
But toss that and this, all right.
I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you and you a call to action.
Will you guys consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
I already stopped for a month.
Oh well permanently, I guess.
I don't know.
I guess I'm working on it.
Will you stop being a stripper easily?
Yeah, like I don't even want to do it.
I was basically kind of forced into it so and also trafficked into it at one point.
So but then, but then I realized it was actually, even though I was like trafficked into it and it was an accident, I realized like the benefits of it for me.
So that's why I kind of just like stuck with it, but obviously by myself.
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It looks like a based Prithilla.
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Look at Prithilla.
You didn't see that episode.
I don't.
Oh, oh, she was on here, wasn't she?
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Good, good.
I'm glad.
I'm scared.
I don't think she looks like Prothilla.
All right.
Okay, cool.
So I'm pretty sure if one more comes through, I'll let it come through.
But I want to say GG to the panel.
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Don't say anything nice about her.
Bailey kind of pissed me off tonight.
Don't say anything nice about her.
She was cool.
You can say some nice things about her.
I like that I became the tie-dye lady, okay?
That made my night.
Did you get this?
They never say anything nice about me, so it'll be rich.
It's from a local smoke shop where I live.
I'll pick you one up.
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It was a great panel, guys.
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No, I think we're all done.
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