Whatever Podcast - 100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter?

June 22, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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100 Body Count By 19?! She CHEATED On Fiancé W/ His BEST Friend? ØF Mom/Daughter? | Dating Talk #247

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	That said, without further ado, actually, with a bit more ado, guys, there's some crazy fucking protests in Santa Barbara.
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	Anyways, oh, and there's some drama that I'll get into a little later on in the show.
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	But like I said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, education.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, all.
	My name's Anya.
	I'm 19.
	I'm from Florida.
	And excuse my voice.
	I was at 65s yesterday.
	Not a 30-year-old smoker.
	But I do OF.
	Yeah, so.
	All right.
	And you said you're from Florida?
	Yes, from BFE, Florida.
	Okay.
	Are you in college right now?
	No.
	No college?
	Yeah.
	Are you planning to go or just focusing on work?
	If I do go back, it's going to be to get my diesel mechanic shirt, but not really planning on it at the moment, no?
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Chloe Yummy, and I'm 19, and I'm from Tennessee.
	All right.
	Any school or college or anything like that?
	I just do OnlyFans.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, guys.
	My name is Annabelle.
	I am a DJ.
	I'm originally from London, but I live in Mexico because I just prefer the vibe of DJing on rooftops under the stars and recently just produced my first track.
	So I guess kind of a producer as well, hoping to be.
	Age?
	35.
	Sorry.
	Most important part.
	Education?
	i have a degree in classics and latin from nottingham university and that's like through that's uh i don't know what what the is there a different term Like, do you guys have bachelor's and master's degrees or what are they called?
	I actually, you know what, Brian, it was so long ago.
	And I will admit something, that a degree in Latin has absolutely no bearing on becoming a DJ.
	So I'm not really sure why I did it.
	But I'm just one of those eccentric types of people that likes to do lots of.
	And you said it was also in classics.
	Classics.
	So classic literature.
	So ancient history, Latin.
	Very pointless, but I found it very, very interesting.
	Gotcha.
	And you said Nottingham?
	Nottingham University.
	University.
	That's a good one.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Vanna Rose.
	I am 23, just turned 23 in April.
	I am from Washington.
	Well, I was born in Washington, raised in Vegas.
	I do OnlyFans, but I do dance.
	I'm planning on going to fashion school, but we're just working on that right now.
	Good evening.
	And going back to you really quick, you said you currently live in Mexico?
	Yeah.
	Are you an illegal immigrant in Mexico?
	No, I'm not.
	So with the visas, you can go, as long as you leave every six months, you can come back.
	And obviously, of course, I miss London so much.
	Do you?
	I do.
	I really do.
	You know what?
	I just miss having a fucking pint in the pub sometimes.
	So, yeah, and I miss my friends.
	So I travel a lot.
	I'm not there just the whole time.
	But it's my Playa del Carmen is my base for now.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I'm Crystal.
	I'm 32 years old.
	I'm from California.
	I'm just a warehouse worker.
	32 years old, you said?
	Yeah.
	Any university, college?
	I have my bachelor's in sociology.
	I'm working towards a master's in psychology.
	Okay.
	Bachelor's in Soche.
	What did you learn in sociology?
	Basically, how society works, basically, macro, macro, micro-level.
	How does society work?
	How does society work?
	I mean, you said you learned how society works.
	How does it work?
	Basically, how, basically, how like statistics to certain studies about society.
	It's just basically broad topics about why we act in certain ways in different situations.
	Depends on sociology.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, what?
	And you said that was your major, right?
	You got your, is it a Bachelor of Arts?
	Yeah.
	Is there.
	Oh, a Bachelor of Science.
	Yeah.
	Sociology is a science?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah.
	I thought it was just.
	Okay.
	So wait.
	Tell me, what are some classes?
	Like, is there feminist propaganda 302?
	Like, what's the name of some of the classes you take if you're studying sociology?
	It was so long ago, to be honest.
	There was gender studies.
	I know that.
	How many gender studies classes?
	There's one.
	One class?
	Yeah.
	Do you recall the name?
	Like, was it just.
	I think it was just gender.
	Gender.
	Gender studies.
	What did you learn in gender studies class?
	Perception.
	Perception?
	Yeah, basically of gender and yeah, but like, give me like, I'm not asking you to go over the entire curriculum, but give me like everything.
	Give me three.
	Wait, it was two years ago?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's.
	Wait, hold on.
	No, three around.
	Well, because you're 32, so when you.
	But if it was just two or three years ago, I mean, that's not that far back.
	Give me like three things you learned in your gender studies class.
	I honestly didn't even take it really seriously.
	But isn't it requisite for graduating with a sociology degree?
	I don't have to remember at least three of the modules that you did when you were at this university, right?
	I honestly don't.
	You don't remember the modules at all?
	Wait, question.
	Your final year, your senior year, I guess you could say, what classes did you take under sociology?
	I don't remember.
	But wait, hold on.
	Wasn't like two years.
	Wait, when did you graduate?
	What year?
	2022.
	Okay.
	Sounds like even more of a waste of time than mine.
	I know you're not.
	To be honest, like.
	She's going to be a DJ also, I guess.
	Maybe.
	Turn it up.
	Wait, but so hold on.
	Okay, the final year of university.
	I'm not going to ask you to like dig back to like your sophomore junior year.
	Give me like three things you learned your final semester or quarter.
	Was it a quarter or semester system?
	Semester.
	Okay, final semester, three things you learned.
	Um, recidiv...
	Oh, my God.
	Recidivism and like reentry to society when people go to jail.
	That was a course.
	It was a course.
	Yeah.
	Gender studies.
	I mean.
	Yeah, but what did you learn about?
	What did you learn about that?
	What did you learn about gender studies?
	Wait, what's the name?
	Was it a, is it in California?
	Yeah.
	Which school did you go to?
	San Bernardino.
	Cal State San Bernardino.
	Cal State San Bernardino.
	Okay.
	Is that a good university, Brian?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	I don't think it's a bad one.
	It doesn't sound like one considering she doesn't remember anything.
	I mean, the Cal State system is.
	I mean, I don't want to be uncharitable.
	The Cal State system is good.
	I mean, it's not an Ivy League school, but.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But can I get three things you learned your final semester?
	Just three.
	Like specifics?
	Just.
	I got to stop talking.
	You just answer the question.
	Three things you learned.
	It's like three.
	Hold on, everybody.
	No one's ever going to go to this university ever again after this podcast goes live.
	Three things, just three things you learned your final year of school.
	Final semester.
	Different ages that are more likely to be incarcerated.
	What's another one?
	Qualitative and quantitative.
	Sorry, don't look at me.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Disregard my qualitative and quantitative data and statistics surrounding different surveys when you survey people.
	So this is an ad for trade schools.
	You know not what school not to go to.
	Did you pay for this university?
	I don't even know how to do it.
	There we go.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you pay something to go to.
	Like you're in school or in-state student, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you pay something.
	You get free university in America?
	I thought it was exactly what I was doing.
	No, I was paid, but I didn't have to pay.
	Well, who paid?
	Your parents or no.
	I had.
	You probably paid them.
	I'm joking.
	Taxpayers.
	No.
	I mean, somebody's paying.
	Somebody's paying.
	Someone's got the money.
	Where's the guy?
	I feel like you could have just, like today, you could have just asked Chat GPT, tell me about sociology, and that would have been.
	Well, you're asking for topics.
	That was three years ago.
	You don't know any topics, darling.
	Huh?
	You don't know any topics that you studied.
	So so long.
	What are three things you learned in Latin?
	Two years ago, I went to Nottingham University like 13 years ago, and I can still remember at least three modules.
	Oh, wait, yeah, okay, go for it.
	The fall of the Roman Empire.
	I learned Latin.
	I know it's a dead language kind of point.
	I said it's a dead language, so you can't speak it.
	But Kaikilius SN40.
	There we go.
	What is Veni Vidi Vici?
	Don't surprise me.
	That's what I say.
	That's Latin.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But like, my point being, darling, and I disrespect, is that, you know, I went to university 13 years ago, and I can still remember a little bit.
	And I have ADHD, and I have a lot of trauma.
	So my brain is running.
	She does that.
	Why do you remember?
	I traumatized her.
	But why would you have the show?
	Don't worry, I won't bring it up.
	Why would they teach a dead language if it's a dead language?
	I mean, that's what I ask myself every day, darling.
	It was a waste of money and it was a waste of time.
	Let me know.
	Like, if I'm going to learn a language, it's going to be like, well, educate.
	What did you learn?
	Just to be fair, so it helps because I speak Spanish and I speak French.
	And a lot of the derivatives of these languages are from Latin.
	So, I mean, you know, you know, there's something there, and at least I remember something, darling, unlike you.
	Okay.
	Did you want to go to school?
	I just did it because I was bored just to have it on my record.
	I didn't really live for.
	Huh?
	Oh, we got Desert Joe here.
	Hold on.
	We'll finish up with the intros in just a second.
	$200.
	Thank you, man.
	Happy Father's Day to the fellow dad's keeping it real.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Ick, who helps you?
	Drink up mates.
	LOL.
	I'm breaking in my new Crucible 100k tumbler glass with Irish whiskey.
	Yo, Desert Joe, good to see you, man.
	Thank you for the big $200 TTS.
	By the way, thank you for.
	I saw you leave some positive comments with the whole like dispute drama thing.
	So I appreciate your support, Desert Joe.
	You're a legend.
	Thank you.
	Dude, I think you use a shawl of Jameson right now.
	I'm here with you, buddy.
	Where is it at?
	I think that's for the people watching in the Discord.
	So they're drinking.
	Do you speak your accent?
	Is it RP?
	I don't know what that means, Brian.
	Received pronunciation.
	I just grew up in central London, so this is.
	But you'll know, but you know the different British accents.
	Oh, right.
	So there's like, I don't want to.
	There's like what?
	Like received pronunciation is like what the.
	So like there's working class, middle class, and upcast, I guess.
	I don't really know how to describe it.
	It's, if you heard my father's accent, he you, he's almost incoherent.
	His speech is like, it's really lovely to see you today.
	Like, literally.
	Like Chamley.
	Like the British presentation.
	So James is he, he, that's, that's literally like how he was, that's how he's brought up.
	Wait, do we have any British people in the chat?
	Chat, what is her?
	Is she speaking RP, received pronunciation?
	Is she, there's like a level, like, that's like old school BBC presenter.
	I actually was a presenter.
	I actually was a presenter for a while.
	Yeah.
	It's a TV podcast.
	You're so clever, Brian.
	Yeah, no.
	It's Nottinghill Chelsea Knightsbridge vibes.
	I don't know if any of you know London versions.
	Lovely.
	It is rather lovely.
	But I actually tone down my accent because sometimes I feel like people judge me and think about it.
	No, tune it up.
	What?
	I must insist you tone it up.
	I always talk with a British accent.
	Like, I literally exactly told her I was like, don't get offended if I accidentally talk British.
	Wait, so I love it.
	Going back to this, though.
	Two things you learned.
	I said, like, three, right?
	No, but break that shit down.
	You got a bachelor's of science.
	Break that shit down for me.
	Which topic?
	Gender studies.
	Gender studies, basically, gender is what you perceive at what you are.
	Sex is male or female.
	But chat GPT could.
	Well, hold on.
	Chat GPT would.
	Okay, hold on.
	That wasn't your best question.
	Yeah, GPT could answer anything.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	But give me some nuance or give me some meat.
	Give me substance.
	No substances here.
	What is a woman?
	Can you answer what is a woman?
	Someone who has XX chromosomes.
	So, some like gender and sex is different.
	Did you need to go to university to learn that, babe?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Oh, do we have Andrew?
	I wasn't sure.
	Wait.
	Is he ready?
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Well, yeah, we're going to have Andrew join.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, Andrew, you got sidetracked.
	We'll get you called up in just a bit.
	Or, Mary, do you know how to do it?
	Okay, I'll come back in just a sec.
	Andrew, if you're watching, we're going to get you.
	We'll get you in just a sec.
	Let me just get the intros.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	I am.
	Well, most people know me as Mama Blonde Bombshell.
	You can call me Mama Bombshell, Mama B. I'm 44 years old.
	I'm from all over the West Coast, currently residing here in Los Angeles.
	And I am a social media personality.
	I also do OnlyFans.
	And before that, I was a licensed esthetician and certified makeup artist working in the beauty industry for the last 15 years.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And you are reliable.
	Yeah, that's my mom.
	This is my daughter.
	That's my mama.
	That's cute, guys.
	You guys, mother-daughter.
	And wait, question.
	So, hold on.
	No worries.
	And you guys both do OnlyFans.
	We do.
	I actually together.
	I actually, no, we would never do that.
	We do like safe for work social media together, but not.
	So basically, what happened was I was telling her, I was like, you're hot, mom.
	Like, you should, like, do something with that.
	Because it was, there's a bunch of stuff that happened with her job.
	And I was trying to hype her up.
	And then she really hopped on it.
	And she just blew up on Instagram.
	Like, all of a sudden, like, she just got like, she's at like 400K already on there.
	And so because she was doing, I was dancing.
	And then because of that, like, I seen how much she was doing like good on there.
	And I was like, okay, well, I might as well try it doing it because I danced already.
	So it was like better because I wasn't like actually in front of everybody all the time, you know, or like it wasn't always like I have to drive far.
	And it was, it was just a lot easier and a little bit more comfortable to be able to do.
	And I got to travel and like do more things like that.
	So that's awesome.
	Yeah.
	And so like, yeah, so you helped your mom out.
	Yeah, she encouraged me.
	She's like, mom, you're hot.
	Have you ever thought about doing OnlyFans?
	And at first I was like, no, no, no, no.
	And then she was like, mom.
	And I had other people in my life that were really like, hey, have you ever thought about doing OnlyFans?
	And I was like, I don't, yeah.
	Look, you're looking fucking hot for your age, girl.
	Well, guess what?
	Over 81,000 people think the same.
	And I was just like.
	61,000.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And so for my eager, I would try to do it.
	But no, it's really nice.
	It's really nice to be able to like travel with her.
	And it's like a comfort thing because, you know, sometimes when you go to like collab houses or places like this, like you don't really know anyone.
	You don't know how they're going to be.
	So it's nice.
	So it's like basically a content house.
	So you go and everybody goes and you like guys make content reels, like OF content, whatever.
	TikTok.
	TikToks, YouTube, things like that.
	And then, so it's nice to be able to have her with me so that, because there's been some incidents where there's been some things like foul stuff that's happened at those houses that, you know, if I was alone, that I wouldn't really feel safe.
	But because I had my mom there, like, she was there to be like rules.
	And it's nice.
	And we wear the same clothes.
	So I take all of her clothes.
	A clap house.
	So it's collab.
	A collab.
	Collab.
	So it's basically like a bunch of influencers or OnlyFans girls and they all get together and make Instagrams, TikTok.
	That sounds kind of fun.
	No, it is super fun.
	I'm sure you're not.
	I couldn't do it, but it sounds pretty fun.
	Yeah.
	That's a lot sometimes.
	A lot of people think that I got her in and they're like, you're such a bad influence.
	And I'm like, it's the influence.
	It's funny.
	I was like, you know what, why not?
	Like, get your money.
	It's been a nice experience.
	I literally want my mom to do it too because my mom is so pretty too.
	But she doesn't want to like.
	She like supports me though.
	I love that.
	That's awesome.
	She's like as a model.
	Like she modeled for elite management.
	Oh, that's awesome.
	She's so gorgeous.
	I love that.
	I love your guys saying yammy.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah, no, honestly, I always think it's better for your parents to be there to support you because at the end of the day, like you're going to make the decision you make anyway.
	So I feel like, for example, like growing up, you know, it's like if you're going to do something like as a kid, like you might as well be safe at home doing it or like things like that.
	You know, like people are going to go out and drink.
	Like if you're going to drink and stuff like that at a young age, you might as well have like actual protection and things like that.
	So it's just open.
	And then at the end of the day, it's like people don't even want to do it.
	Like what?
	Like, there's a place in Amsterdam where all the drugs are legal, but no one even does drugs because it's so accessible.
	So, it's like if someone's there to tell you, like, you know, like you could do these things or whatever and support you, a lot of times people wouldn't even want to do that or you feel safer doing it or like comfortable and you don't have to go and lie.
	That's when a lot of times people get like in trouble is because they're like lying to their parents and trying to hide things, and then that's when things go bad.
	Not to mention, so many parents would be really judgmental about it.
	Yeah, and like I've heard stories of OnlyFans girls being like disowned by their parents.
	Yeah, so it's so like nice that there's just like complete juxtaposition.
	Can I ask a question about it?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, so you said you started doing OF first?
	Well, no, she started.
	So I basically told her that she should be like doing like Instagram and stuff like that.
	She encouraged me.
	And then so she blew up.
	And then I started.
	Yeah.
	So in like a mother-daughter dynamic like that, whether it's the mother or the daughter first, there's a lot of behind-the-scenes stuff that happens to you, as even if you don't do it, if you just do influencing.
	Would you want your parent or your daughter to go through that?
	Like, for example, stalkers, like the immense amount of hate, all that other kind of stuff.
	Like, I wouldn't, my, don't get me wrong, mom, if you're watching, you are your bombshell.
	But I would never want my mom to go through it because of the things that I've gone through, just knowing how little I've been here.
	But if you think about it, like, no matter what you do, like, there's going to be something and an issue with anything.
	Like, even like, for example, if we were don't do OnlyFans, like, I walk down the street and people harass and stalk anybody.
	So it's like, at the end of the day, might as well make money off something that somebody's trying to do.
	That's they're going to just react to me anyways.
	We would literally go on the beach and people would try to take pictures with us and like get in a line, like a line of people taking pictures with us.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	And then there's people that harass like for no reason.
	And that was before we ever even did the OnlyFans.
	So to be honest with you, I already kind of dealt with that always.
	So for me, it was like, I'm already going to deal with it anyway.
	So it's not really anything that's going to change it, except for now, I'm going to actually get something from that.
	I see what you're saying, but then, like, you know, there are a lot of beautiful women in the world.
	Like, every single woman around this table is gorgeous.
	And just because you are beautiful, you might get wolf whistled in the street doesn't mean that you need to feel the need to monetize it.
	You know, yeah, but it was just something that I was going to do anyway.
	So it was like.
	Well, and not only that, even if you are a social media personality and you're not doing OnlyFans, you are opening yourself to the haters out there.
	Yeah, everyone knows what's going to happen if you do that.
	I'm not doing OnlyFans or not.
	If I am presenting, even before I started OnlyFans, I did makeup and skincare reels and TikToks and went live.
	And I got just as much hate educating women about cosmetics and skincare.
	So no matter what it's even more than what I do now.
	So base what you're going to do off of what other people's actions are.
	No, I 1000% agree.
	But can I ask you a question?
	By being whatever beauty influencer or whatever you said you are, the difference between that and being in the OnlyFans kind of world, I think that you're not going to get as much hate if you're teaching a girl how to apply her message.
	I don't think someone's going to send you your address in your DMs the night that you land in your Airbnb.
	What was that?
	No one's going to send you the address of your Airbnb in your Instagram DMs if you're just posting makeup.
	You know what it is?
	Well, you never know that.
	Some people will.
	Like it depends on what the type of person is.
	Moving on.
	So when did you have her?
	I had her in 2002.
	So when I was 21, 21.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Is dad still in the picture?
	Yeah, I've been married for 24 years.
	You guys are married.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	My name is Perven.
	My friends usually, friends or co-workers usually call me Pearl, just so it's easier.
	I'm 25 from San Diego.
	I'm an administrative assistant, and I have a bachelor's degree in architecture.
	Okay, welcome.
	My name is Felicity.
	I'm 19 from Santa Barbara, and I'm going to school for business.
	All right, and then going around the table, what's everybody's relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've been in, starting with you?
	Single for a while now.
	I'd probably say like three, four years maybe.
	Longest relationship was, I think, two and a half years.
	How old were you when you, so you were like 16, 17?
	Yeah, so I guess you can't really call it like a serious relationship, but yeah.
	Okay.
	The two-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Not on the most pleasant terms either.
	All right.
	And there's no guys in the – you've been single three to four years, you say.
	Are there currently any guys in the picture?
	I don't carry a roster.
	Yeah, no.
	There's guys I find attractive that I think are cute, but I just don't think I'm in a time in my life where I scale my life on priorities.
	I think it's Andrew that talks about the what is it, the priority hierarchy or whichever it is where you have a hierarchy of what your priorities are.
	And for me, right now, that's work and saving up for my future.
	And I can't really focus on a relationship at the same time and give both of those 100%.
	Do you do VG content?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What?
	The guy you shoot with, are you guys dating or no?
	It's strictly business?
	It's strictly business and it's one person.
	It's just somebody that I've trusted for a really long time and that I know is BC.
	Boy girl.
	Boy girl.
	Boy Gub.
	Like boy girl.
	On any fountains.
	Yeah.
	That means you shoot scenes with a guy.
	With another person, yeah.
	And like solo would be you're just doing solo content.
	And then girl girl, like, or GG, whatever, you know.
	I'm so curious.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's all good.
	What about you, Chloe?
	What's the question?
	Relationship.
	Yeah, I love that.
	Relationship status.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm single.
	And what's the worst?
	How long have you been single?
	Pretty recently, like, I would say like a month now.
	Yeah.
	Is that just your voice or were you about to cry?
	I'm sorry.
	No.
	It sounded.
	Okay.
	You've been single for one month.
	So last time you were on the show, were you in a relationship?
	Yeah, I was in a relationship, yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Three years, like during high school.
	What about you?
	So I'm a bit of a serial monogamist, so I haven't had many boyfriends, but wouldn't that mean you've had many boyfriends?
	Well, but they're quite long-term ones.
	Oh, sure.
	Yeah.
	So my longest relationship was six years.
	And I've been single now for three months because I was like really savagely cheated on.
	Yeah.
	So it still stings a bit.
	The one that ended three months ago, how long was that relationship?
	It was only about four months before I realized that he had another girlfriend in another country.
	So in order of the length of your relationships, so give me like six years and then what was the next longest?
	Since that I haven't had like a pretty appropriate person.
	No, no, just like you've had a six-year relationship.
	I've had three.
	I've had I've had about three like three-year relationships.
	Okay.
	One, two-year maybe, and then the six-year one.
	Gotcha.
	So three, three-year?
	Yeah.
	Okay, the six-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	I break up with him, but still, I miss him, and it's you broke up with him?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	The first three-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	It was me.
	The other third-year relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	It was me.
	The final third-year relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	Him.
	He broke up with you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you've been single for three months.
	Have you had a rebound?
	No.
	No.
	I'm not really like that.
	Okay.
	Are there any guys in the picture currently?
	No.
	I'm sorry.
	I've got no juicy gossiping up.
	Chloe, any guys in the picture currently?
	Just like the guys that I shoot boy girl content with.
	And like guys I shoot like TikToks with too.
	Wait, the guys you shoot TikToks with too?
	Yeah.
	That's not a relationship.
	Well, isn't that like well I still have to like hang out with them to make them.
	She's so cute.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Are there any notable TikTok people you've had carnal knowledge with?
	Are you shagging your TikTok friends?
	Well she is.
	We know she is.
	I'm just curious who if there's any like Young Gravy.
	Young Gravy.
	Not rapping.
	No.
	He's, yeah, he's kind of a rapper, but like very good.
	Isn't he dating?
	Isn't he dating?
	What's her name?
	No, you guys don't know who Young Gravy is.
	Who are you?
	Yeah, he's a little bit of a dad.
	I do TikToks and real sound all the time.
	I met him in Hagen January.
	Wait, was that before they were dating or after?
	Guys, guys, one at a time, please.
	One at a time.
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Okay, so you were.
	Are you still seeing him or no?
	I mean, he texted me last night, but like.
	I thought he had a girlfriend.
	He had a girlfriend.
	He's with this TikToker, Ari.
	I don't know if she's a fan of her.
	She's an OnlyFans girl.
	I've heard of her, actually.
	They're like really blowing up on Instagram and TikTok right now.
	Crazy.
	So are you like the side piece?
	Is basically the side piece?
	I guess I am.
	I mean, it's okay.
	You're fine with it.
	I mean, I wouldn't date him.
	She's getting the money, I guess, if he's good at what he does.
	But I like him, but I wouldn't like be, I don't want to be his girlfriend.
	Like, you know, Ari's his girlfriend.
	I see.
	He's a colleague.
	You do OnlyFans, so you would be okay being a side piece.
	So that's how it seems like it.
	I mean, like, I, sure.
	Okay, so you're dating him.
	He's a side piece.
	I mean, it sounds like it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Wait, so are you okay with it being open knowledge that you're the side piece?
	When's the last time you saw him?
	Well, I mean, he texted me.
	He was texting me last night.
	I saw him maybe like a month ago.
	I like went to his house because sometimes I fly to LA to like film videos and like collabs and stuff.
	And like I stayed at his house.
	Wait, hold on.
	In your pre-show notes here, you said, you want to talk about how you and Young Gravy used to be a thing, but he never would post you because it was bad for his image to have an OnlyFans girl on his social media.
	But now he posts Ari.
	Is she an OnlyFans girl?
	Yeah, she is.
	She's a huge OnlyFans girl, like maybe one of the topics.
	She's overweight or she's stuck.
	She's like super big.
	I watch her because of her makeup tutorials.
	Yeah, she's big in that way.
	Yeah, okay.
	She has a lot of girl fans too and guy fans.
	Like she's.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Are you guys beefing?
	I mean, maybe now because I've never, like, no one knows about this, but I mean, I still like her, but I mean, she's like me literally.
	But hold on.
	You said you're single, but then in your notes, like from last night, you said, you want to talk about how your new boyfriend pretends to be your brother for OnlyFans and Instagram for views.
	Well, okay, he is not like my boyfriend.
	He's just one of the guys that like I do.
	He's a boyfriend.
	Do yeah.
	One of the guys you do.
	He's a friend, boy.
	Yeah.
	He's a Fulma.
	How many friends do you do?
	I don't want to say.
	How many did you have on the roster?
	Okay, well, basically, it's really just him, but I make him like dye his hair to be different people and make him like wear a mask.
	What the fuck?
	He just died his hair.
	He just dyed his hair blonde so we could do like, you know, sibling content on TikTok and Instagram.
	And it really, it was going viral.
	And like, people.
	Stop it.
	Yeah.
	Get some help.
	Is this like, say, wait, is it?
	Sorry.
	Is this pretend incest?
	Like, it's completely wrong.
	I just was thinking in my brain, like, how to go viral.
	And I know it's like not the best, but like, I don't have a brother or a sister.
	I'm an only child.
	So I heard pretty much.
	Yeah, so for you, it was like.
	He wasn't like, yeah, because like for me, I have a brother.
	So for me, I wouldn't be able to do that.
	But if you're an only child, like I see, like, yeah, my only child.
	And I.
	And it's not really actually that.
	So if people think that, then it's like, that's on them, honestly.
	Especially if you don't.
	You know, so it was believable.
	A lot of people believed it.
	And we did this like video that it was like a sibling song.
	And then at the end, we like, he kissed me and it went really viral.
	So, yeah.
	Wow.
	So, wait, when you send out the videos, do you label them brother-sister?
	I know the one I saw had sound.
	It had like a sound on OF.
	Do you do that?
	Because that's insane if you do, because that's against TOS.
	I do.
	There's no way you do.
	Did you say like step?
	Anya's gonna snitch.
	I don't know.
	I'm not snitching.
	I'm not snitching.
	I'm just trying to get a single video.
	Honestly, I don't think so.
	I don't think I call him my brother on OnlyFans, but people recognize him from that video.
	You know what I mean?
	I love it.
	Okay.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	I love that for you.
	So, anyways, here.
	Moving on to you, relationship status.
	I'm single.
	I've been single for like three years.
	My longest relationship, I would say, was about like three years, too, was the person that lost my B card too when I was younger.
	We were together for like three years, and then that happened, and then we ended up breaking up.
	How old were you when you guys broke up?
	I was like 15.
	So, wait, no.
	Yeah, I was 15.
	Yeah.
	16?
	No, I was 15.
	I was 15.
	Because we didn't move to Cali until I was 16.
	When we moved to California, I was 16 years old.
	So I was like 13 when I was with him.
	Okay.
	How old was he?
	He was the same age as me.
	We went to school together.
	Cutest couple.
	Yeah, we got the Queen King shirts in school.
	Who broke up with who?
	I honestly broke up with him because he tried to ask my best friend to prom or something like that.
	It was really weird.
	I think he was just trying to get because he was like really controlling.
	So he would be like, you can't wear your nails because he's Mormon.
	So he'd be like, you can't wear your nails.
	You can't have belly piercings, you can't drink tea and stuff, and I kind of got over it.
	And then, so to get at me, he like tried to get at my best friend, and that didn't last long.
	I was like, I literally was like, I'm done with you, and then we just kind of broke up.
	We recently actually connected like two years ago, and I found out he's like making music, and he has like really long hair now.
	I was like, This is super weird.
	Did he actually hook up with your best friend?
	No, thankfully, but if he did, he like fuck it, I guess.
	But he's got long hair now, so who cares anyway?
	But he did try, she told me about it.
	I was, it was really confusing to me because I was like, Why would you be trying to control me?
	And then you're like trying to hook up with my best friend.
	But anyway, guys, any guys in the picture currently?
	Um, no, not right now.
	Just working my way up, trying to focus on me.
	I feel like I'm always focusing on other people that I haven't put in the time for me.
	So, like, this is my time now to focus on me.
	What about you?
	Thank you.
	I'm single.
	I've been single for a couple months.
	Um, longest relationship is about three years.
	Who broke up with whom?
	The three-year relationship?
	I broke up with him.
	And the most recent one, how long was that one?
	That was a couple months, probably like eight months.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Relationship status?
	I'm married.
	Longest relationship, 24 years.
	Your current one, I'm assuming.
	Yes.
	All right.
	How long?
	You've been married for how long?
	24 years.
	Oh, together how long?
	24 years.
	Oh, so you guys got married pretty quick then?
	Yeah, we knew each other six months from the day that we met to the day we walked down the aisle.
	Got it.
	My brother's like one year older than me.
	So it was like back to back.
	So my son's 24.
	So married 24.
	One plus one equals two.
	I'm in a relationship for three years.
	All right.
	Is that your longest relationship?
	I would say yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Felicity, what about you?
	Single for three weeks.
	Longest relationship was like almost two years.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	That's everybody's.
	I know Andrew probably wanted to.
	He heard some things there earlier on in the conversation.
	Maybe you wanted to jump in on Andrew or first of all to let's see what we got here.
	Chair seven.
	Did you say that your name is pervert?
	No, my name is Pervin.
	It's not yeah, Pervin.
	It's actually no, it's actually pronounced Parvin, but in America they pronounce it like that.
	That's why usually people like you, they notice that or they'll make that sort of remark.
	So I just go by Pearl.
	What do you mean, like you?
	People like you, Andrew.
	People like you.
	So is that a racial?
	Maybe he's projecting.
	No.
	It's what do you have against white people?
	No, nothing against Andrew.
	I think he's very intelligent.
	It's just people who haven't heard of it.
	They're like, is it like Greek or whatever?
	Yeah, it is.
	Oh, shit.
	I'm just like, I just guessed that shit.
	Yeah, the thing about it is different countries have like different ways of writing it, pronouncing it.
	And in like Greek or in Turkish, it's pronounced Parvin.
	But in America, they pronounce like that, which is the reason why you would assume that.
	Nice.
	I knew that was going to be the first thing coming onto your screen.
	I mean, come on.
	It's objectively hilarious.
	No, I know.
	That's why I'm not surprised.
	I'm not even mad.
	So, here, I'll show you.
	I'll show you how funny it is.
	So, take chair three.
	You're British, right?
	Me?
	Oh, no.
	We have a bird and the sky.
	Oh, my gosh.
	How did he get in?
	Andrew, there was a really scary buck in it.
	And I said, oh, I can't.
	It's a hummingbird.
	We've had this before.
	How does he get in?
	At first, I thought it was it.
	Oh my god, it's feathers.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh my god.
	Hold on, guys.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	It's okay.
	Relax.
	Crack the door open all the way.
	Remember when they were doing it?
	It's going to be a little distracting.
	Is it a bug or is it a bag?
	It's a bird.
	It's so hard to get.
	It's a bird.
	Look at it.
	Can I quickly go?
	I just don't want him to hurt anyone.
	Go ahead.
	You can see it's a bird.
	It's definitely not a bug.
	It sounded like.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	God damn.
	He's almost there.
	He's working his way over.
	It's okay.
	I like little birds.
	You're probably so scared.
	Oh, my God.
	Guys, it's going to be a little distracting.
	It'll fly out the doors.
	Just try to ignore it.
	It's not a big deal.
	All right.
	So, anyways, it's going to shit on the table.
	I don't even know my head.
	Where did it go?
	It's just sitting there.
	Dude, that's it.
	It took us fucking three hours last time to get it out.
	No way.
	It was probably the same bird, imagine.
	He's like, I know my way out.
	Ended up dying, but that's a conversation.
	Oh, my God.
	Probably like it was inhaling all the women's perfumes.
	Yeah, it was us.
	We were the conversation.
	Andrew, it seemed like you maybe might have had something for chair five.
	What chair number am I?
	Chair six for Crystal.
	Got it.
	She's the sociology major going to get her master's degree in psychology.
	Did you have something for her, or did I?
	Maybe I got that wrong.
	You were still stuck on my name.
	Oh, we can't.
	Andrew, we can't hear you.
	Mike Check.
	Oh, I said not right now.
	I haven't heard enough to dive in on anything yet.
	I'm just going to be figuring out the backgrounds and the worldviews and all that stuff.
	Sure.
	We're in the getting into know-you phase, right?
	Yeah.
	We have a message from Chaw.
	Hey, Brian, just want to drop a little donation to the charity event you're running right now.
	It's not often people are willing to take out a day of their time to babysit the differently abled.
	Yes, it is true.
	I am a, this is a licensed daycare facility for OnlyFans.
	I love to be babysat.
	This is, you know, last show, this is quite the quite a difference from our last show because last show we had no OnlyFans Girls, and then this show we have one, two, three, four on the panel.
	So like half the panel does OF.
	So a switcheroo.
	What's that?
	Who's the fourth one?
	Oh, one, two, three, four.
	Yeah.
	Unless Crystal or Perview?
	No, I don't do OnlyFans.
	I have morals.
	I feel like it really just depends on what your morals are.
	I don't know anything.
	Everyone has different morals.
	I don't know if you're aware of that.
	I can hear you.
	I just think it's very wrong.
	Some of us don't.
	Yeah, well, it just depends.
	Like, some people just have different morals, and that's just how it is.
	I think it's morally okay to pop your pussy.
	I do.
	But that's your opinion and what you believe in.
	And I'm going to live my life off of other people's opinions.
	Yeah.
	But what are your guys' morals?
	Everybody's.
	I feel like my morals is if I'm a good person and I treat people with respect, and if I choose to do what I want to do with my body, then that's myself.
	But I'm not a bitch or anything like that.
	So that's at least my morals.
	I thought you were how you treat people.
	Yeah, you are being a bitch.
	I'm saying you are being a bitch.
	It's radiating.
	But it's okay because not all of us can do it because not all of us look like that.
	Okay, you're pussy.
	What does the look of anyone have anything to do with solving your pussy?
	It's okay.
	That's supposed to be in the way you look.
	For clarification purposes, doesn't every single woman walking the planet?
	Well, depending on what we define as a woman, I don't want to get in trouble, have a vagina?
	Yeah.
	Does that make sense?
	Wow, great point.
	Astute Point Cambridge or Wade Nottingham or whatever.
	Yeah, love that.
	Well done.
	You know, I one thing I'll say is I admire the bravery because I could, I personally could never do that.
	I would be so, I'd feel insecure.
	Wait, ivory to do what?
	Well, it's in in a sense, in a way, you've got to be pretty fucking ballsy and sorry to swear again, Brian.
	And brave, like to be able to.
	I personally feel as a woman, it's not natural to show myself on camera to, you know, potentially millions of men.
	For clarification purposes.
	It's still very natural.
	So that's what I mean.
	Isn't I mean it takes, I guess, some bravery to, you know, or something.
	Yeah, but hang on.
	By that metric, wouldn't it be brave to be a serial killer?
	But we're not doing that, so that doesn't even make sense.
	It's a completely different topic.
	That's the question.
	That's there's not, there's not, there's not that much difference.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Wouldn't it be the case by that metric that it would be brave to be a serial killer?
	Yeah, actually, Andrew, you're completely right.
	And I think I just, I didn't word it correctly.
	What I mean is it takes some kind of there's something that I mean, I basically what I'm trying to say, shamelessness.
	Usually I articulate myself quite eloquently.
	I couldn't do it.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	And if you can't do it, then that's exactly something that I feel like other people shouldn't judge what other people do with their lives because it's their life.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I could do it, but I wouldn't want to do it.
	Yeah.
	It wouldn't, it wouldn't sit, it wouldn't feel natural to me.
	And that's fine.
	And I, but I also just don't want to be like, you know, slammed for like being mean to girls who do OnlyFans because at the end of the day, there's the millions and millions of men who are paying for this.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And not everybody knows what people go through in their lives and the reasons why things happen.
	They just want to.
	I just think that sex has been sold since the beginning of time.
	It's the oldest professional.
	And everybody's going to have sex anyway.
	So it's like if someone chooses to do it a certain way that they feel like they want to do it, I don't feel like it doesn't.
	It's only just sex movies.
	But do you understand?
	Like morals is a crazy thing to say.
	Morals, but do you understand the damage that you're doing to society?
	Because do you understand that now men are no longer hunters?
	Well, they were already going to do that anyways because like I said, it's already been there.
	Men no longer are hunters and they no longer like go and you know, whatever, let's say go up and ask a girl for a drink in a bar because they can just sit behind a screen and they can do whatever and look at girls like you and it's kind of you know it's just ruining humanity in my opinion.
	People have always watched corn and everyone's always it's been around since forever even the pirate movies like it's always been a thing so for example OnlyFan just made it a platform so that girls cannot be scammed by people that are directing and doing things like corn and stuff like that it was a platform for women to take their own and to be able to be like if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it I'm gonna get what I want out of it and not Controlled and abused in situations like in the corn industry.
	How sorry, and no disrespect.
	I didn't know that corn or whatever we're gonna talk, say it.
	I didn't know that had been around for what?
	Did you say thousands of people?
	Yes, it's been a with their cameras that whenever there was cameras, people were making movies like that since the beginning.
	So, do you not think that now it's becoming exponentially worse?
	So, you know, I feel like at the end of the day, everyone, that's the whole point of like everyone in life, that's what you do, is you mate.
	So, if people, like, it's already a thing that happens.
	So, for me to just want to be able to do or make something from that when it's already happening, anyways, I'm already being sexualized wherever I go.
	I'm taking my stand for it.
	Like, you're going to sexualize me anyways, okay, so that I'm going to get my money off of it because no matter what, you're going to do that to me, no matter what.
	I understand you and I hear you, but every single woman around this table gets sexualized when they walk down the street by men, and I don't think every single woman around this table has a doctor who has decided to spread her legs on camera.
	Can I ask a true question and don't take this offensively?
	When you go out and DJ, right, and you're out there and you're spinning on the table, what type of outfits do you wear?
	Can I ask you?
	I wear like a t-shirt, some denim shorts, a bandana, and headphones.
	Is it kind of sexy and appealing?
	And do you think it's moral?
	I try to make my image look like quite more interesting, but I don't dress like extremely provocatively.
	But sexy, right?
	And that will bring people if I'm doing.
	There's a difference between dressing sexy because you have a talent and you are a DJ and just what we're saying.
	We're capitalizing.
	We are capitalizing on being sexualized.
	And OnlyFans, like she was saying, OnlyFans is around.
	It's going to be around, right?
	It's not going anywhere.
	And I'm not going to miss that bread.
	Well, we don't know that.
	But can I ask you a question?
	We'll see about that.
	We'll see about that.
	Well, either way, the corn industry in general, it's been around for as long as it's been around.
	So it's not just going to go away.
	You're going to keep interrupting me.
	Can I ask you a question?
	You haven't given anyone else the time to talk.
	I'm not interrupting you.
	I was in the middle of saying something too.
	Your statements are very long, so people don't get a chance to actually say something else.
	I did want to say something.
	I'm sorry.
	I wanted to ask you, just for clarification purposes, where do your morals come from?
	Are you Christian?
	Are you morals in the sense of everyone talks about, oh, empowerment of women?
	And like, is that the real definition of it?
	That's the notion of it.
	I don't think it's morally okay.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not, I'm not asking your morals.
	I'm asking where they come from.
	Those are my opinions.
	No, it doesn't have to be a specific religion.
	It's my personal preferences.
	Those are my opinions.
	No, that's fine.
	Do you know what?
	Comments that came from here.
	Oh, it's bitchy.
	If you guys don't care about other people's opinions, isn't it kind of hypocritical and rude for you to say my opinions are bitchy?
	It was the way you said it.
	You're like, I have morals.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	No one's sitting here.
	Those are coming out for what you're doing.
	Those are your opinions.
	Okay, cool.
	And that's your opinion.
	And that's your own opinion.
	Those are my opinions.
	You don't have any right to support me.
	And she's asking, you know, she's a well-educated person.
	So my conversation.
	I'm not sitting here and bashing you.
	I'm just saying morally, that's not what I think is.
	Okay, well, you didn't state it like that.
	You said I have morals.
	You didn't say my opinions.
	I have morals to which I would not do that.
	I wasn't talking about you.
	I wasn't talking about her.
	I wasn't talking about your mother or her.
	Those are my morals, my opinions.
	I did not bash any one of you.
	But instead, you sat there and said, oh, what a bitchy remark to make.
	Like, that's very, very rude.
	Can I pause it at all by what you said?
	Like, I'm genuinely not upset.
	I'm just trying to get to the core of it.
	Like, everybody has somewhere where their morals were sourced from, right?
	Whether it be a religion, whether it be from their parents, and their parents had a specific reason for it.
	Do you like have a source in your head, or are you just like, this is stuff I've picked up over life?
	It's just, I think, like, sex intimacy is, you know, a very vulnerable aspect to any type of individual, whether, like, whatever background you come from, whatever religion you come from.
	So, those are my morals based off of how I perceive it.
	No judge, no shame to others.
	Those are just my opinions.
	Okay.
	Since this is a podcast about talking and discussing differences, I just want to say that.
	I just feel like it was the difference.
	I just didn't know I would have gotten a remark as, oh, that's a very important thing.
	Well, it was the way that you said it.
	You said, I have morals, not these are my morals.
	It was the statement, though.
	It wasn't.
	Okay, do you not hear me talking?
	Yeah, you're not.
	What I'm saying is, you said, I have morals.
	You weren't like, these are my morals, so that's why I don't.
	You said, I have morals, stating that anyone else's morals are okay.
	That's what I got from it.
	I never said other people.
	Well, the statement, the way you stated it, there's different states of things.
	So if you state it differently, then it will mean something else.
	But the way that you stated it sounded like you were saying it specifically like why are you getting so triggered by what she said?
	I'm not getting triggered.
	If you are going to perceive it that way, that's a personal problem.
	One at a time, one at a time.
	Let's start with chair seven.
	And then you guys, you know, you can kind of hash this out.
	That's based off of your perception.
	If you are going to understand my statement that way, that's a personal problem.
	I did not say other people.
	I did not say this person, that person.
	I said my morals, X, Y, and Z.
	So I don't understand why you're perceiving this assumption that I said this, this, and this to the point where you get offended and say that my opinion is bitchy.
	That's kind of very rude.
	You didn't say my morals.
	You said I have morals.
	There were two different statements.
	I'm literally talking and you're talking over me.
	So I give you the time to speak and you can't give me the time to speak.
	Yeah, let her respond.
	Let her respond.
	Like, that's parents.
	You're sitting here saying, you're like, I don't do OnlyFans because I have morals.
	You're stating that everyone else's morals don't matter.
	You're not saying that's my morals, so I don't do it.
	I wouldn't have said anything if you were like, well, those are my morals.
	I'd be like, okay, that's understandable.
	But you're like, I have morals.
	So that's an attack.
	It's not an attack to anyone.
	Those are my morals.
	I'm just saying it's the way that you stated it.
	So maybe just like if you stated it differently, it would have came across differently.
	Anyway, I have morals that are.
	I'm done talking about this.
	Those are my morals.
	Because literally every time I'm talking, you interrupt me and then you get mad about me interrupting you.
	That's a making an assumption.
	Hang on, hang on.
	To be fair, she did let you finish that last point.
	I did.
	That is the case.
	Those are my morals.
	I see you got your hand up.
	You guys don't have to raise your hand.
	It's only if the table gets so like insane with crosstalk.
	That's kind of when I'll break it up.
	But I mean, for the most part, that hasn't been happening.
	It just kind of happened a little bit there, right?
	You guys are more than welcome to engage with each other.
	It's just that occasionally, you can imagine what it's like for the listener if you got six people talking at once.
	They can't hear anything, right?
	I just don't want to talk over people, but earlier we were talking about how the mother-daughter dynamic of you know the difficulty of OF and influencing and you wouldn't want your parent or your daughter going through that.
	And I had mentioned hate and judgment, and you said that you had learned how to deal with the hate and judgment.
	She could call me a million different words.
	She could tell me I'm nasty.
	She could tell me I'm a horrible person.
	It doesn't affect me one bit.
	I get those DMs every single day.
	You seem to be very offended by it.
	No, this is just my reaction to it.
	This is my response to this statement.
	Do you get like hate comments or offensive comments on the internet?
	Yeah, but it's like it's not like directly on the internet it's different.
	People were behind a screen, like that's completely different.
	No, I don't.
	Okay, so but you keep doing what you do, right?
	Yeah, okay.
	So, I mean, people are gonna have opinions, that's fine.
	Yeah, I just it was just the way it was stated, what felt like an attack, so that's how I feel.
	But that was it because it was the way that things were stated, and it could have been stated differently.
	But I'm not like offended or anything, like it was just my reaction because we're on a podcast talking, so I'm supposed to have something to say back to that.
	I'm not supposed to just keep my mouth quiet.
	I think it was the way that she worded it, she should have said personal morals exactly.
	Instead of like, I have morality, I can empathize with that.
	Yes, thank you.
	You literally said, Oh, at least I can sell it, or some notion of along those lines.
	You were sitting there, yeah, that was criticizing me.
	Did I sit there and get offended by it?
	I'm not supposed to be judging.
	Yeah, you're the way that they're dating.
	I think both judged you because then you were talking.
	I don't know what that comment was about their vagina or something.
	I'm like, I can sell it, at least I can sell it on the screen.
	No, it was you being no, she said at least I can sell it.
	She said, At least we can sell it.
	Like, perceiving it, saying, Oh, I don't have the capability to sell my pussy or something.
	I could if I wanted to, I just choose not to.
	Hence, the fact that those are my opinions.
	I did not bash her, I did not bash her, I didn't even bash you too.
	So, it was just my opinions morally.
	I don't find that to be okay.
	I would not do it, I would not want my daughter to do it, and so on and so forth.
	I do not bash, I do not judge others who do so.
	You do you to each their own.
	That see, the way you stated it there, that makes a lot more sense.
	See, that is understandable.
	Yeah, it was the tone, yes, and the way that you said it.
	It was the wrong tone.
	Yes, gotta use that right tone, you know, and wording if you don't have the right tone.
	The tone police are gonna come in there, and that's gonna be the end of it.
	Yeah, because people are too sensitive.
	Like, what am I gonna do?
	Like, adjust my tone and the way that I'm stating it.
	Like, I said something about myself morally.
	Sorry that you perceived it wrong.
	Well, for someone so well-educated, I would have thought that you'd be able to articulate yourself a little bit more eloquently to the point where you don't hurt people's feelings.
	I didn't hurt her feelings, she perceived it to a way that hurt her feelings.
	And I didn't aiming her feelings.
	I didn't mean it incorrectly.
	I didn't personally attack her.
	You didn't articulate yourself in a kind of a tone.
	I did not personally attack her or anyone on here.
	Okay, I think it's also just her tone, the way she talks.
	Like, you have quite a, I guess, monotone way of speaking.
	Yeah, and as do I, sometimes people take what I say offensively, even if it was meant to be taken.
	It's so spoken and sweet, darling.
	I don't think it's the same.
	I wouldn't take you offensively.
	Well, no, I'm just using it as an example.
	Yeah, but chair, I mean, chair three, like you're kind of cheating because you have the British accent, right?
	But did you say cheating?
	Yeah, isn't that cheating?
	Like, with the tone?
	Oh, 100%.
	Yeah, it's 100% cheating.
	So, I don't even feel like Britannia.
	Tone is going to cheat.
	You can't just come in with the British accent and be like, Well, you have to be like tone.
	I have to be a little bit more.
	Yeah, but I've also got a degree in Latin.
	Of course, you do.
	You have a British accent.
	I've got a degree in Latin and I love words.
	So, it's not just because of my accent.
	See, and I can say that I apologize for if I felt that if I had said something like that, but I just felt like the way that you were coming at me felt like an attack because of the not me specifically, but in general for the girls, because I back up my girls that are doing that because it is a tough thing.
	And for someone to just be like, I don't do it because I have morals.
	It's like that's not really fair.
	So, I can apologize for my actions, but I just didn't like the way that you said it was not really respectful towards the women that do do that because that is my life.
	Well, it's not just women, it's women, it's couples.
	I know a lot of couples who are husband and wife that do this industry together.
	There are men that do this industry together, that do this industry just themselves, you know?
	So when you're like, I don't have morals, I mean, that's to every single person.
	That is, you know, capitalizing on this industry.
	Yes.
	Yeah, to each their own.
	Did I sit there and bash any of you guys?
	Did I sit there and bash?
	I did not.
	I did not.
	Yeah, I think we declared it was just more about the tone.
	But I have to say this: like after this conversation and after like talking and communicating, like now I can understand.
	Yeah, now I understand.
	I think that first like five minutes was a little honestly, she's way nicer than me.
	I would have just straight up been like, you're all a bunch of fucking immoral degenerate skunk.
	But that's like, that's just me, though.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Andrew, don't call me a moral degenerate.
	Joking.
	You have a he's not in the building right now.
	So moral degenerate.
	I was going to say that you're a degenerate moral scum, I promise.
	I've done it to many people who are in the building.
	But I mean, that's just, you know, it's just me.
	You know, I'm doing me, right?
	I'm doing me.
	You do you, boom.
	And other people as well, you know, like, you know, you do you and I'll do me.
	That's how it's supposed to work, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Everybody has different lives, and everyone, like, no one knows exactly what people have been through and why things have came into their life like that.
	Because some people had different lives where like that's something that they have to do in a point.
	So it's like, I feel like just people should understand everybody's feelings and things about those situations.
	Can I ask you, when you got into this industry, was there any, like, is there or was there any part of you that feels anything bad about it?
	Because as I said, like, I don't feel shame about it.
	You could say anything you want to me, but I definitely understand that there's parts about it that are bad.
	There's parts about it that influence society that are bad.
	There's parts of it that are bad for me.
	I understand that and I fully take responsibility over that.
	But I feel like industry needs gas to make the world go round.
	I feel like there's parts bad in anything that you do.
	Like anything that you do, there's something bad that could be bad in something that you do.
	You know what I mean?
	Like there's like not everything's always perfect.
	I'm not saying that that's not correct because that is true.
	You know, it's like I'm not like, but I feel like a lot of things, like anything that you do, sometimes it could just be a bad point of something.
	Like, you know, like even like, for example, doctors, like not all doctors are actually trying to help.
	It's a lot of times about the money.
	It's a lot of times about the money.
	What about you?
	You know, I've gone to a doctor's where they've literally scammed me when they could have helped me.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, that's not always a good feeling.
	That's not always something that should be okay.
	For me, it was really hard.
	You to focus on me.
	But no, I totally get what you're saying.
	I do hear you, though.
	I do get what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	I think we have to be self-aware.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	I don't think I'm like doing charity work over here.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	And that's why I made the comment about the gas industry.
	It's because we need it.
	It's essential, right?
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait.
	So are you dying?
	I don't think the corn industry is essentially.
	Are you drawing a comparison that the adult content industry is essential in the same way that oil refinery is essential?
	No.
	So, okay, so it's not like apples and apples here.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I get that they're different, but okay, how about this simple question?
	But sex work has been around longer than the gasoline industry.
	Is the adult content industry essential?
	Is it essential?
	Is it not essential?
	Like something like OnlyFans, it is not essential.
	Let's not go by COVID standards because COVID standards were critical.
	But is the sex industry always been something that's always been?
	Even if it was secret down alleys and all these things.
	Yes, it's always been.
	Yeah, but so has killing for hire.
	Yeah, I agree with that too.
	So just making the appeal to history and saying, because this saying has always been part of human behavior for some people, that that means can't be regulated.
	You have to make the same, follow that logic the same way.
	And I do think that the industry needs to be regulated.
	The human experience, too.
	And you wouldn't advocate people do that, right?
	Guys, I have a question.
	If you guys want in OnlyFans, do you have any other kind of like talent or anything else that you could do?
	I'm going to go to fashion school.
	I've already been to yes, I've already put everything in.
	I'm waiting for the next year because it's summertime now.
	So this coming up, this beginning of this year, I'm going to be going to fashion school.
	I've actually been sewing for like five years.
	I'm really good at it.
	I actually have Instagram where I make clothes and I do that sign of stuff.
	I'm going to be a designer.
	If you already know how to sew and if you already know how to, if you know about the textile industry, blah, blah, blah, then why would you need to go to school?
	Why wouldn't you just start your own small business and then create your own?
	Because I love it so much that if I can learn every last bit of it, no matter how it is, I would like to learn all that.
	So I want to have that knowledge because I love it so much that to me, going to that class wouldn't it be school?
	Like to me, it would be something that I want to do because I like to learn.
	And if I'm learning about something that I love, that I can bonus on by getting a degree that can help me in the future also when it comes to that stuff, then I would love to do that because I want to know every last bit of the thing that I love.
	Okay, good.
	I was just asking because it's, you know, it would be concerning if your only passion was OnlyFans.
	Yeah, no, no, no, no.
	This is just a gateway to get to where I really need to be.
	Okay.
	Got it, babe.
	And I went to school.
	I'm a licensed esthetician and I went to spa studios and became a certified pro makeup artist.
	I've worked on many different runways, different spas.
	I've had my own spa before.
	Unfortunately, you know, the economy has destroyed businesses back and forth.
	There's, I am telling you, I am no way in the 15 years of being in the beauty industry.
	It's destroyed those businesses, though.
	Oh, different.
	Competitions and spas and things.
	I mean, those businesses.
	Different economies at different times it has in different areas, right?
	Saturation that has destroyed those industries.
	I can't think of, like, even under Obama's economy during the recession, those were actually businesses that were still making money.
	So every single spa.
	Every single spa, right?
	Every single spa has made it through the recession.
	And even in a booming economy, every single anything is not going to always make money.
	That's absurd, right?
	Exactly.
	You could still have a business which isn't healthy even when the economy is booming.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't have anything to do with anything.
	Everybody's going to have to experience that at some point, working for a business that has healthier down points.
	I'm just saying that those businesses typically are very healthy businesses.
	They have been for a long time.
	Yeah, but it's not every single business.
	And it's really hard when you are going to school, you're raising your children, you're running a business, you're doing multiple things, and sometimes you have to divert your attention.
	And there's different aspects of where you live, right?
	I lived in a small town.
	It was a really, it was a lot harder to bring in, it was at LA, right?
	So people weren't going and getting all types of different treatments.
	It was a smaller town that was a little bit harder to be more successful in the spa industries.
	But what I was saying is that I make way more money, way more money.
	Wait, so little question on the background here.
	So you got started in adult content first.
	She started first.
	But with her.
	Can I finish with one thing real quick?
	With her encouragement.
	I just wanted to finish this.
	The last thing you said, you make way more money.
	So let me just ask you this straight then.
	Yes.
	Let's just say that you were in that small town and you were making about what an esthetician generally makes in a small town or even what an esthetician would make in kind of a big city.
	Isn't it the case that you would still do this because it's more money?
	Would I still do OnlyFans or do spa?
	Spa.
	If I was making the money that I'm making now?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	If you were making the money that a general spa technician would make.
	Yes.
	Okay, so I'm making that.
	So what was the question again?
	Wouldn't it be the case that you would still do OF since the money is so much better than do spa work, even if you made what a typical spa worker makes?
	Yeah, I mean, I would do OF.
	I'm completely debt-free.
	Then I don't understand why bring up all of the history of the economy and you couldn't get jobs.
	It was her question.
	The truth is that even if it was the case that you could work at any spa and get paid what a spa worker makes, you'd still be doing OF.
	Yeah.
	So why even bring any of that up?
	Because basically I was asked because I asked her if she has any other talents other than just being on Onifans.
	So I was answering her question.
	Oh, I see.
	Creative.
	I wasn't just clowning all of it.
	It's like, you would still do OF anyway, right?
	Yeah, but the thing is, like, she wouldn't have been living it anyway.
	But she wouldn't have been in that position if it wasn't for that.
	So then technically, if that never happened, she would still be doing the spa because she was trying to say.
	That makes more sense.
	So the problem is, is that even if she was in that position, she would still do it.
	You see what I mean?
	So if they both made the same amount of money, right?
	The spa thingy and the OnlyFans, you would still pick the OnlyFans over the spa thing.
	Yes.
	So therefore, right, that point proven.
	Thanks, Andrew.
	At this point, yes.
	Welcome.
	I enjoy what I do.
	Brian, I have a question for you.
	For me.
	Yeah, for you.
	Like, I'm not complaining at all because this is really yummy, but like, why did you give it to me?
	And then she asked, and you said no.
	Oh, I said later.
	I'll get later.
	We have a two-popsicle at the table limit.
	It's a policy written in blood, as many policies are.
	Trust me, there's a reason for the policy.
	I didn't ask for a popsicle.
	You made eye contact.
	Do you want me to have it done?
	You made eye contact.
	You're on Onifans.
	You were like.
	Did it?
	I thought she was looking at you and like Felicity communicate to me that you wanted.
	It's okay, Brian.
	I think you just wanted.
	It's okay.
	I think she wants to get rid of the lollipop.
	Do you know like it?
	I do.
	Like I'm saying.
	Wow, you're really ungrateful.
	No, here I am.
	Yummy.
	I am such a hospitable host, and here you are.
	Mom is a little bit more.
	I'm not moral.
	I was just wondering.
	I'm not a fan of the car or something.
	Or is it?
	Oh, my gosh.
	What is that?
	That smells like burning.
	It smells like burning.
	Maybe it's a bird.
	It's a protest.
	Oh, my God.
	I just smell like it's burning.
	Something's burning.
	The birds itself.
	What is going on?
	Is there anything burning in the studio?
	No, that's not bad.
	Oh, it's probably because it's about to be 4th of July.
	They're probably doing fireworks.
	The downstairs.
	Is it about to be 4th?
	Yeah, It's okay.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	What?
	I don't know.
	What were we talking about?
	Why you gave me the popsicle?
	No, you're moving on to something else.
	You asked for it indirectly.
	I didn't mean to ask you.
	I was back there.
	I was back there and you were looking back and you were.
	You were like directly asked.
	Give it to me and I'll throw it in the binge.
	No, I want she wants it.
	It's really good.
	You guys are wasting my plan.
	So, do you want to say you want to?
	All right, I'm going to read some chats here.
	I'm just wondering.
	Every single woman around the table is getting sexualized by other women.
	You all dress for each other, not for men.
	Chair two is barely dressed at all, and she's gross.
	Chair seven and three's three W's.
	So, chair three, chair seven.
	What does W's mean?
	Yeah, W. Awesome.
	Winning.
	Means you're winning.
	Yes, you.
	Means winning, yes, winning.
	And he sent another one: Women don't dress for men, they dress for each other and sexualize themselves.
	Yeah, feminism, chair two is barely dressed at all, gross.
	Well, actually, chair seven.
	So he sent it in twice kind of chair seven, chair three W's.
	Thank you, actually, religious.
	W's and Ws in the chat from actually religious.
	Thank you very much.
	Appreciate that.
	Oh, thank you.
	This bird is killing me.
	The bird's killing me.
	You know, we're going to do something.
	Can I say something about that comment?
	Like, I don't know who DM'd me from the whatever podcast, but they told me to wear this outfit today.
	So it wasn't really my everything that gross men on the internet tell us to do, darling.
	It wasn't your choice.
	You can't articulate your own thoughts.
	I mean, they just asked me to wear this outfit.
	Don't speak to her.
	No, like I'm kind of like curious.
	Well, she's obviously going to just wear what they told her to wear because she wanted to be appropriate for the place.
	This meta-conversation, frankly, is very boring.
	No, no, no.
	She's not wearing it because I don't care.
	She's not wearing it because of what the man said to her.
	She's wearing it because she's, I don't know any fans, and this is going to help her career.
	Well, no, like they literally asked me to wear that.
	I just think you look hot and red.
	You look stunning.
	You're the prettiest girl.
	People ask us for input on outfits, and if there's like an outfit, which you posted this exact same outfit on your Instagram, that was an outfit recommendation.
	I wore white.
	It's not white.
	Yeah, you can.
	People can wear whatever they want.
	I didn't ask people.
	Like, what I should wear.
	Who gives a fuck?
	I mean, well, someone just said I was gross because of what I was wearing.
	I just wanted to say that.
	And they call me burrito boy.
	They call me burrito boy.
	They really do.
	That's cool.
	Why are you going to call me all the time?
	Why are we going to do it?
	I don't get into it.
	Oh, well, they asked me to eat a burrito.
	They fucking bought burritos for me to eat on stream.
	I'm not like.
	No, I'm going to try to get away.
	I'm too sensitive about it.
	I just don't.
	I was just like defending myself because they said I was gross for myself.
	Okay, cool.
	Anyways, moving on.
	Don't worry about it.
	Moving on.
	So let's see.
	Anya, you have a paper in front of you, notes.
	They were for Andrew.
	They're not specifically for Andrew.
	Did you read them?
	No.
	They're not specifically for Andrew.
	It's just the podcast can go in a million different directions.
	It can go dating talk.
	It can go politics.
	It can go.
	Okay, what's the topic you want to hit on then?
	It's not one particular topic.
	It's just it's.
	What do you have notes prepared for?
	Which topic?
	Okay.
	I don't know if I can say the pew pew rights.
	Abortion rights.
	Feminism.
	Immigration.
	We talk about G rights.
	We haven't done that.
	I don't think that's what I've ever ever before.
	G rights?
	Pew pew rights?
	Pew, huh?
	Pew pews.
	I don't know if I can say that word for TOS.
	Yeah.
	I'm just covering all topics just in case I get asked about it.
	Wow.
	It's not TOS, but I mean, I'm just on Instagram.
	Are you in favor of gun ownership?
	Yeah.
	Okay, there's nothing to debate then.
	Abortion, feminism, immigration.
	Feminism interesting.
	I want to get up.
	Immigration.
	Okay, darling.
	Immigration specifically because of what's going on in LA right now.
	Okay, are you pro immigration or what's your position?
	My official position is that my parents came here in 1997.
	So we are Russian immigrants.
	And I am fully pro-legal immigration, completely against illegal immigration.
	I think there should be a little bit of tweaking on the legal immigration process because it is pretty broken.
	But before we can do that, what's going on right now is probably the best option to kind of flush the system and start fresh.
	Well, what's going on right now?
	What are you referring to?
	The ICE raids in LA and any raids going on in Florida.
	You've been throwing out all these fucking illegals.
	I totally agree with you.
	I agree.
	That's excellent.
	Sorry.
	And if we can round all of them up in a day and throw them all the fuck out of there at this country, I would be a very, very happy man.
	But unfortunately, I don't think that that's going to be the case.
	It seems like Mr. Trump, God Emperor Trump, may he live forever and the like, has failed us on this one.
	He seems to be.
	I love Trump though.
	But God is in England right now with the immigration.
	The problem in England is horrible.
	Horrible.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, with their Asian immigrants, they got all of them.
	You guys are losing your country day by day.
	And that would happen here.
	Londina Stan, they call it now.
	Don't they?
	Londina Stan?
	Isn't that what they call it now?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Could I have you just move your microphone this way just a little bit and then tilt it down?
	A little more.
	Perfect.
	Okay, so there's immigration, feminism.
	What's your position on feminism?
	Strictly against feminism.
	I think all waves, first wave, second wave, and third wave, were all harmful for society.
	I think the reason that we're here is because of first wave feminism.
	What do you mean by here?
	This is okay.
	Hang on.
	Actually, this isn't a really interesting take.
	So you got to help me out here.
	You think that they're bad because they're bad for society, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, then why are you doing OF?
	I fully admit that it's bad.
	Fully admit it.
	I don't think it's great for society, but I also think it's something that I'm taking advantage of it.
	And I also enjoy doing it.
	So before I was doing OF, I was filming myself and doing it.
	Obviously, none of that is posted because it was a while ago.
	But I was filming it.
	You would do OF for free?
	Honestly, I enjoyed just filming it.
	Was it for your own personal pleasure?
	Hang on, here's my question, though.
	Would you do it for free?
	Probably, yeah.
	Depending on the workload that it is.
	Really?
	You would do it for free?
	Depending on the workload, depending on the workload.
	So, for example, like the workload that it is right now weighs out to make sure, to make sense for how much I'm getting paid with it.
	So I'm willing to do all the other stuff because, hey, the money's great.
	But if I was doing it for free, I would just, I wouldn't put as much effort into it.
	But yeah, I would probably still do it.
	Why?
	I just enjoy showing myself.
	I know that's kind of weird, but.
	Do you just like having sex on camera in front of other people?
	Not even having sex, but like even just by myself.
	Like, I and if I'm gooning, I'll goon to myself.
	And the types of things you're doing by yourself, which are highly sexualized, probably include things like masturbation.
	Why can't you do that on your own?
	Why'd you have to put it all over the internet?
	I didn't have to.
	Nobody told me I had to.
	I just actually started out doing TikTok and doing like Legos on TikTok and just like riding my horses and stuff.
	And I got a million and one TMs about OF and I gave it a few months of thought before I actually did it.
	And it was back and forth.
	Yes, no, yes, no.
	And I decided in the end to do it.
	In the end, I'm glad I did it.
	But if other people ask me if they should do it, I typically argue against starting it.
	Not that, like, I always try and frame it exactly how it is.
	Yeah, and it can be a tough.
	Let me ask you this.
	It can be tough.
	Do you think it's evil?
	Do you think OnlyFans is evil?
	I think the general corn industry is, yes.
	Yeah.
	I think it's a better version of it because.
	Yeah, but is it evil?
	I think at its root.
	Yeah.
	It's evil.
	Yeah.
	And why would you do evil things?
	I fully admit that it's honestly, it's because I plan to have children in the future.
	And this was a way that I wanted to make a buttload of money and be able to spend time with my children and provide them with resources, put them into private education, do all of that.
	Couldn't you have just married a stud?
	What's going to happen when your little boy turns 13 and his friends are all bullying him at school, showing him pictures of their mom spread eagle on a bed?
	No, do you think that that's going to be great for your children?
	No, but I also think that a certain level of not bullying, I don't want to say bullying, but a certain level of hardship kind of builds strength.
	Not saying that every kid should be bullied, but we got to toughen the little Johnny up.
	Poor little Timmy.
	Pansy, we got to go over there, beat him up, stuff him in the locker because his mommy does cook.
	Well, because at the end of the day, they shouldn't worry about what other people have to think, you know?
	So it's like, they shouldn't, like, he needs to, like, it's nice to teach them that growing up, like, you don't need to worry about what other people think.
	That has nothing to do with you.
	So if people were bullying him for that, then that's not.
	It's the first time I've heard.
	Andrew also asked a question.
	I was paying attention to that one.
	What was it?
	I was asking you if it's evil.
	Yeah, after that.
	It was right as she was stating hers.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So are you engaging in evil?
	I would say so, yeah.
	Aversion.
	Don't you think you should stop doing that?
	Eventually.
	You can imagine somebody, if you say, look, this is evil, well, don't you think you should stop doing that?
	I think there are certain levels of evil.
	I think there's certain levels of evil.
	So I think, like, for example, like, I think smoking cigarettes, I think it's technically evil.
	That's not evil.
	Smoking marijuana.
	I think using substances is evil because it's hurting you.
	Those things aren't evil.
	I wouldn't classify them as evil.
	You actually classified this as evil.
	So it's evil.
	At its root, it's evil.
	So you, by your admission, are participating in evil.
	Yeah.
	Like, knowingly.
	Now, all of us, I think, probably at some points in our life participate in evil deeds.
	Correct.
	Sometimes knowingly or unknowingly.
	But when you recognize that it's an evil deed, don't you generally steer clear of that?
	Because you know it's evil, right?
	Isn't that the whole point of being able to recognize evil for what it is?
	Yeah.
	And I fully admit the hypocrisy.
	100%.
	Well, it's not, I mean, I don't even know if in this case it's hypocrisy.
	It's just inconsistency, right?
	It's just an inconsistent standard.
	Like, if you know you're engaging in something that by your own standard is evil, you just stop doing that, right?
	I'll like I'll have a drink here and there at home.
	I'll have a beer, but I know it's bad for me.
	I know I shouldn't be doing it.
	I know it's going to hurt my liver in the long term.
	Irrelevant.
	Why?
	It's not the same.
	That's you maybe harming your body slightly.
	But evil means that you're harming other people.
	Right?
	Okay, let's clarify real quick the definition, like what we're considering evil, because maybe I agreed to something that I don't know what I agreed to.
	Yeah, that seems fair.
	What do you think evil is?
	See, that's actually, honestly, that's, I'm having difficulty like putting a pinpoint on that.
	Is what she said kind of more close to the definition of evil that we're going upon, where it's hurting yourself and others?
	Well, in the so my in my tradition, the Orthodox tradition, evil doesn't have an ontology.
	It just means absence from God.
	So anything that's absent from God would be considered evil.
	But it doesn't itself have its own sense of thing.
	It's a phenomenon which we call a thing, which would be absent from the energies of God.
	That's what we would consider evil to be.
	I mean, I am.
	I'm asking you what you consider evil to be.
	Now you know what I consider it, but I'm asking you what you consider it to be.
	You don't have the same standard I do.
	So I'm wondering from your view, what is evil?
	I think, sorry, can I, sorry to interrupt, Andrew.
	I think that the people who manufacture and create the cigarettes, they might be evil.
	But I think that the person who smokes a cigarette isn't evil, if that makes any sense.
	Why?
	Why, though?
	Because they are knowingly distributing something that, you know, potentially could cause cancer or like health problems.
	Okay.
	You know, for money.
	I understand.
	So the consumer you wouldn't hold responsible, but you would hold responsibility.
	No, I love a ciggy, like, when I'm out for having a drink, but I wouldn't say that because I. You would consider the pusher to be evil.
	Yeah, So in that case, Chair, one from your view, is evil.
	What?
	Who's the pusher?
	So the person.
	She would be the pusher, right?
	Are you saying she's, yeah.
	Is she the user or is she the pusher?
	I would be the pusher.
	She's technically OnlyFans is just your pusher because the people that created the OnlyFans and then provided that platform for other people.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I don't think that the men who are consuming this corn, whatever, are the best, but without the people who are providing it, it can't be done.
	So it's literally like the person, the Marlborough, you know, they are creating something that's dangerous, but the person who smokes the Marlborough cigarette isn't evil.
	I think it's like 50.
	Sorry, I'm not articulating.
	Because you're always going to have a market, you're always going to have a supply.
	It's 50-50.
	Because people are still, they wouldn't be able to sell it if people didn't buy it.
	So yeah, that's true.
	I just kind of looked at it.
	The market is that you're going to sell it.
	You're right.
	Like, you are correct.
	If there's no demand, there's no supply.
	Yes, exactly.
	I agree that that's true.
	But what's easier to control?
	Is it easier to control the pusher, or is it easier to control the millions of consumers?
	Which one's easier to regulate?
	I feel like sometimes, though, if you think about it, like people are going to want it anyways, and somehow they're going to find a way to get it no matter what.
	If something really wants something.
	Why have any law?
	We're kind of talking, we're also kind of talking about a reason.
	I want to respond.
	Why have any law then?
	If it is the case, then people will just break them.
	What do you mean by that, though?
	Why have any, if it is the case that you're saying if you regulate this, people will do it anyway.
	Then you could make that example for any law which exists on the books.
	Why have any laws?
	Well, for example, like it's like the vapes, right?
	Like the flavored vapes.
	Like they banned it, right?
	But now they're still selling it, but now they're even faker.
	They're worse for you, like, because no matter what, people are going to want it.
	So, it's like if people just try to stop it altogether, it's just somehow, some way, people are going to find out.
	Like, for example, marijuana.
	Yeah, but hang on.
	The reason we hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let's go one step at a time here because you didn't actually answer the question.
	If it is the case that you're saying, Andrew, listen, um, you the reason you don't want to regulate this is because, hey, people will want it anyway.
	There'll still be a demand.
	I actually agree that that's true.
	There will still be a demand for it, but couldn't you make that case with any law that exists?
	I would say so.
	Like, I mean, so then why have laws at all?
	Facts, but that's it.
	That's what I mean by like, just in general, like marijuana, right?
	Like, the reason they legalized it was because people were going to do it no matter they were going to keep arresting them or whatever.
	The reason they legalized it was because a lot of the times people are going to be hard.
	Hang on, hang on.
	The reason they legalized marijuana was because there was huge NGOs pushing for it who knew that once they taxed it and pushed it out in the public, uh, it would spread and the consumption would spread.
	And by the way, the people who resisted marijuana legalization, guys like me, for instance, who resisted it, told everybody that, hey, this is not going to be a just the current crop of people who smoke marijuana will keep doing it, and now it's legal and safe.
	It's going to spread.
	And it did.
	It spread all over the place.
	Way more people smoke it now than ever before, and it will continue to spread like a fucking cancerous plague.
	So the thing is, is like it seemed like the laws were real helpful there.
	Yeah.
	Well, speaking of cancer, there are all you know benefits to medical marijuana.
	Can I ask you?
	You're saying that it's spreading like crazy.
	Is that in your eyes?
	Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
	It's a bad thing.
	Okay, why is it what?
	I agree, but why is it bad?
	I'm going to get to school.
	Under the district, well, I think it's just socially bad.
	So it would be bad for the social health and welfare of the people of the United States.
	Okay, why is it socially bad?
	Because it's hurting other people and the people that are smoking it, right?
	I don't think it's just a matter of hurting people.
	That's where you and I might deviate.
	I think when we're talking about social goods or social bads, we're talking about what do we want to see as a social norm for society.
	So inside of society, I don't want to see people stoned out of their fucking mind when they're driving.
	I don't want to see people going up to pot dispensaries where there's security guards walking out with joints.
	I don't want to see people shooting up with needles on the sidewalk.
	Even if that doesn't actually directly affect me, even if that's hundreds and hundreds of miles away, I don't want a reflection of that socially in my society.
	But technically, yeah, technically, people aren't allowed to drive and smoke, though.
	Like, technically, if you get pulled over and it's like a DUI, but for marijuana and stuff, you're not even allowed to do that.
	Like, drive.
	But you're contributing few people doing it with mass legalization of marijuana.
	Yeah, I see what you're saying.
	Can I ask, do you drink alcohol?
	Sure.
	Okay, so do you.
	I'm drinking a beer right now.
	So am I driving?
	So do you think that alcohol and marijuana are different?
	Yeah, I think it's different.
	Like, do you think the law should be different?
	And if so, why?
	Alcohol is completely enriched in American culture.
	It's part of the social identity of Americana.
	Our founding fathers, if you looked at the receipts of their party after the Constitution, it would make one of these fucking block parties in Santa Barbara, it would make all the kids there cry because of how much liquor they drink.
	That's what, in fact, they substituted water with alcohol often because water can be brackish and poisonous.
	Alcohol is so entrenched in the American identity that when prohibition was around, it was basically one of the First Amendments that we actually repealed and got rid of as quickly as possible.
	I mean, it had a very short span because of the social identity which comes with it.
	Alcohol is a part of the culture, of the very fabric of the culture that's here.
	Marijuana is not and never has been.
	I think there's a cultural difference.
	Yeah, there's massive cultural distinctions in how these things play a part.
	Could you make the argument that alcohol kills way more people than marijuana?
	Yeah, I would agree that that's true.
	Probably killed more people than probably any other drug that's out there.
	I would agree with that too.
	But I also think that there's a distinction in the culture and what we know that where it's okay to do and what's not okay to do.
	And the fabric of going to like a honky-tonk bar in the South at 9 o'clock and drinking until 1 a.m. with your buddies in the local pub.
	That's an entrenched part of American culture, right down to the fabric of my daddy, daddy, daddy drink at this same pub.
	So I don't think you're going to easily disassociate that from the culture.
	Interesting.
	All right, we have some chats coming through.
	We have Pasty George coming in here.
	Thank you, Pasty.
	Appreciate it.
	He writes: Chair One, while it is excellent that you denounce feminism and realize how detrimental it is to society, but you do OnlyFans, isn't that hypocritical?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't like, yeah, it definitely is hypocritical.
	I also, I don't think, I don't think OF is like empowering, like what feminism says.
	Like, I don't think it's empowering.
	I enjoy doing it.
	I like doing it.
	I don't think it's like empowering, though.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Brian, I just wanted to finish it off, though.
	Sorry.
	But yeah, the major take here away isn't just the aspect of culture, but remember that there's a lot of stigma around alcohol.
	There's stigma around alcoholics.
	There's major social stigma.
	That's part of the social responsibility that comes with alcohol.
	Nobody likes alcoholics.
	They have interventions.
	They have billboards everywhere saying don't drink and drive.
	They do all, where's all that shit for OnlyFans?
	Anywhere?
	Is there a billboard saying don't let your daughter do OnlyFans?
	Is there don't be stigmatizing that billboard?
	There's no stigma for these other social plagues.
	There's only stigma for this social plague.
	And it's like, okay, look, it seems to me that it's absurd, kind of on its face, to be like, look, we have all the stigma towards alcohol, even though it's an entrenched part of the culture, but no stigma towards any of these other social ills and societal ills.
	And that's just fucking crazy to me.
	It's quite funny.
	But I feel like, I think it's cyclical.
	So, like, for example, alcohol, like, it was on the rise.
	Everyone was drinking, like, it wasn't really that big of a deal.
	And then they stigmatized it.
	And not use went down, but we started looking at alcoholics as bad and sick.
	And then, same thing happened with cigarettes.
	Same thing happened with vapes.
	So vapes went up and now they're going down.
	And honestly, I think the same thing is going to happen with this industry: everyone's kind of going up, A lot of people are doing it.
	And then we're going to start stigmatizing it.
	And people are circumcised.
	I feel like what happens with stigma, law.
	What would you consider like right?
	I also don't think that this is going to get outlawed because a lot of the people using it are the people that will be voting on it.
	But what do you think?
	So what do you think that is like a right thing?
	So you're saying like to do OnlyFans is wrong.
	Like what would you say is a right thing to do?
	Because I feel like it really comes to what people's, for example, like we were talking about everyone does have different morals, but then I feel like it, like, what makes that wrong?
	Like, for me, like, for example, she enjoys it.
	So is that wrong for her?
	No, it's not because she enjoys doing it.
	You can enjoy a lot of things that are bad for her.
	She enjoys doing it, yet she admits that it's evil.
	I mean, how can you enjoy doing something that you would even do?
	Hang on, People can enjoy Fendi.
	Should you just do things that make you feel good?
	No, not all the time, but I feel like if it's something why not?
	Well, because I don't know, like, you don't always have to do everything that you like to do, but I'm just saying.
	No, no, you don't have to, but why shouldn't you?
	Why shouldn't you just always do things that make you feel good?
	Well, I mean, if you can make like a living off of it and it's like something that you're like using instead of going to like an eight to five, a nine to five, freaking working for somebody else, that's that's just not even considering like how you are as a person.
	Hang on, why shouldn't you?
	Why don't you find a talent, something that you enjoy doing, a job that you really love that isn't nine to five?
	This is all a deviation.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	This is all a deviation.
	Sorry, Andrew.
	Why shouldn't you only do things that make you feel good?
	Because they can be morally corrupt.
	I'm asking her, why do you think that you shouldn't just do everything that makes you feel good?
	Well, I feel like at the end of the day, like you can do what you want.
	Like, if that's what makes me feel good, then I feel like I can do that.
	So then you should.
	It's a choice.
	It's a choice.
	Okay, so then you should do things that make you feel good, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what if somebody died and donated their body to a necrophiliac to have sex with and it made the necrophiliac feel good?
	Well, that's not me, though.
	So that's not like I wouldn't have anything to say about that.
	No, you wouldn't have, hang on.
	Wait, so you'd be okay with that?
	No, I'm not saying that I'd be okay with that.
	Let me finish the question.
	Let me finish the question.
	So a guy dies, donates his body to a necrophiliac, and it makes the necrophiliac feel good, right?
	Why shouldn't he do that?
	Well, because that's wrong, but I'm not saying what I'm doing is wrong.
	I don't think that doing OnlyFans is wrong.
	Why is it wrong if it makes him feel good?
	Well, because it's a diff that's different, though.
	It's different.
	I'm not doing things that are hurting other people or being disgusting or doing that.
	Why is he hurting?
	That's literally if you're doing that to somebody, that's still hurting them.
	They still were a person.
	That still was a person, though.
	My choice of feeling good isn't doing things to other people.
	They donated their body to him to do it.
	Okay, well, I don't know about that, so I have nothing to say for that.
	You don't know if that's wrong?
	Well, yes, it's wrong, but I'm saying that makes him feel good.
	That's not the best.
	That's not consent.
	They donate it.
	It's disrespectful to the family of the person who's passed away.
	Well, I would hope no one would do that.
	Well, people do do that.
	I know, but that is wrong, but I'm not doing that.
	Yeah, but why is it wrong, though?
	Because it's disgusting.
	And that's fucking terrible.
	I agree.
	Because it's disgusting.
	So OnlyFans is disgusting?
	No.
	It's wrong.
	I don't feel like it's disgusting, but that's like I said before.
	As long as it's disgusting and that's what makes it wrong, I could use that argument against homosexuality.
	I could use that argument against OnlyFans.
	I could use that argument against anything that I find disgusting.
	I could just say it's wrong.
	It's morally wrong, right?
	And that's his opinion, and he's entitled to that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Everybody has to say that.
	Well, that wouldn't even be my opinion.
	That would just be a logical breakdown.
	So if it is the case, that things that make you feel good are right.
	If I give you this scenario where this thing makes this guy feel good, he's not hurting anybody else.
	Tell me why it's wrong.
	I think it's just everybody's opinion is that it's everybody's opinion that this is wrong.
	So it'd be individual.
	It's just all different people's opinion.
	Because some people probably would say that that isn't wrong.
	And those people are weird.
	But I'm saying that that is wrong.
	But it's like it's just a choice of what other people perceive.
	Yeah, I know you keep saying it's wrong, but if I go off your standard of do what makes you feel good, right?
	Because that's how you know something's right.
	But I'm not hurting anybody in the process.
	Neither is he.
	Neither's he.
	Who's he hurting?
	He's hurting the family.
	What if the family has been doing this?
	has no family.
	Daddy Brian.
	Yeah, baby.
	That's a way to change the conversation.
	Holy crap, sorry.
	It was a response.
	But then I saw it was no champagne.
	Jungle donated $1,000.
	There's a fucking dent in the ceiling that makes you gross.
	No champagne, Brian.
	None.
	Wait, what is this?
	How many genders did they popped it before I saw the table?
	This guy's a legend.
	I do just want to quickly finish.
	I'm almost done, Brian.
	All right.
	He keeps trying to change it.
	I get stressed.
	Because this one, this is really important that you guys understand this.
	At least where I'm coming from here.
	Yeah.
	I'm listening.
	Let's say that a person was alive who his dream after he died was to donate his body to some guy to have sex with it after he was dead.
	That's his dream.
	That's all he thinks about all day.
	He loves the very idea of this.
	And then he dies and donates his body to some other guy.
	And that guy does that every single day.
	Well, I feel like that would be his choice.
	Let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	I just want to know if there's no family, there's no objections, there's no nothing, why would that be wrong?
	Well, what if, what if, you know, it's like no one like talk about what if this, what if that?
	Like, I don't know that this isn't something that's reality right now that I could see in front of me, so I have no answer for that, to be honest with you.
	If it's a what if option is.
	Is somebody getting murdered in front of you right now?
	So both of them are consenting to that, right?
	The guy that passed away is consenting, and the other guy is consenting.
	So in their world, in their minds, they are not doing wrong, right?
	It would be.
	In their mind, are they doing wrong?
	In my mind, yes, but that's my opinion.
	Why?
	I don't have no clue.
	I think again, this becomes a society thing, a society's opinions, and that's why so many people think OnlyFans is wrong.
	I'm not sure.
	You understand, though, why it is that if it is the case that I get society on my side to say OnlyFans is wrong and we outlaw it, you can't really have any objections to it.
	Because what you just did was you described that morality comes from the masses.
	And if that's the case, then anytime a person like me can sway the masses into prescribing something which is bad for you, you can't object to it.
	I also don't think that the issue is swaying the masses.
	I think the issue is swaying the people that are going to be voting on it.
	And as I said previously, a lot of the people that are...
	This would all have to go through Congress and the Senate, right?
	And those people get voted in.
	I understand, but you can admit, too, that there's a lot of time they don't represent the constituency that they claim to be representing.
	Yeah, a lot of times they represent NGOs and not the conservatives.
	They represent NGOs.
	They still have to get in there.
	They still have to get in there, right?
	That's true.
	But they represent NGOs and they represent a lot of time their own personal things that they want, whether it's moving up in the political ladder.
	And they have to try and square the circle.
	No, Brian wants to.
	We can move it on now, Brian.
	Brian has had enough.
	I know.
	He just looks tired.
	Brian, are you allowed to have any of that champagne or not?
	Jungle says, I messaged him.
	He said, no champagne, Brian.
	So I'm just going to drink it alone.
	See what you want, darling.
	You guys are going to be pay for it, my love.
	Jungle, salute to you, Jungle, if you want to do a little cheers with me, Jungle.
	Salute.
	Wait, see, Brian's allowed to drink it.
	Yeah.
	That is honorable.
	He did sexual jungle, whoever you are.
	Why can't we drink?
	But he did ask a question.
	He did ask a question, if you guys recall.
	What was the question?
	This is for chair five.
	That's for you, Crystal.
	How many genders did they teach you there are?
	What about the rest of the table?
	How many?
	So you answer first.
	Go ahead, Crystal.
	Basically, however many people want to say LGBTQ plus, but I mean GMR.
	Joking.
	So are there an infinite number of genders?
	Basically.
	Okay.
	Basically, what they teach you.
	And then what about the rest of the table?
	How many genders are there?
	Two.
	I feel like there's like two genders.
	No comment on that one.
	Two, male and female.
	Two.
	Okay.
	Jungle, thank you again very much for the champagne.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thanks, Daddy Jungle.
	Thank you, Jungle.
	Appreciate it.
	He said no champagne, though, but I didn't see that part.
	But wait, you're not allowed to share.
	Nope.
	Okay.
	I got to adhere to Jungle's requests.
	Jungle.
	Wait, so what, like, what other type of genders do they say that there is?
	Because I'm just familiar with two.
	Like, what other kind of genders is there?
	Because I've never heard of another gender.
	Like, so what other, like, what would be a term like of another gender?
	Transvast.
	But is it like a, like, if, so, let's say if you're a girl and then you want to be a boy, like, wouldn't you still be changed to a male?
	So that would make you male at that point, right?
	Or I just see, I don't really know too much about that.
	So that's why.
	Be transgender.
	Yeah, see, but it's so transgender is a gender.
	Pasty George, chair two, stop being boring and gross, lol.
	That's to you, too.
	He says, stop being.
	He said, stop being boring and gross.
	I'm being boring and gross.
	I guess so.
	Okay.
	Well, your name is Pasty George, honey.
	And you donated $100 just to tell me that I'm gross.
	So maybe you should take a look in the mirror, Pasty George.
	Ooh, Pasty George, shots fired.
	He has a follow-up.
	Anyone knows that that thing is gross and morally wrong?
	So why can't O fans, cam girling, escorting, et cetera, be gross and immoral?
	Why does money and consent make the latter right?
	I was saying that I think that both of them are immoral.
	Can I ask you to catch up, Pasty George?
	I agree that it is gross and immoral, but why is necrophilia wrong and immoral by your standard?
	By Andrew's standard.
	Oh, let's go back to this topic.
	No, I agree.
	We're moving forward.
	Do you know the meaning of the word necrophilia?
	Do you understand?
	I agree.
	I agree.
	I think it's gross and morally wrong.
	Now to bang in the dead audience.
	No, we're going.
	This is going back to the conversation that I was having over here.
	That's why.
	That's why it's wrong.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Answer that again.
	Disgusting sentence.
	I want to change my answer too for the transgender thing because I didn't even know that transgender tendency.
	I'm sorry, Andrew.
	Can you say that again?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe before we speak, we should say because of the low.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm like, I didn't know what that.
	Okay, so.
	Hold on, stop.
	I need you guys to speak one at a time.
	If one person is speaking, my expectation for the entire panel is everybody else is silent while that person is speaking.
	Anya was speaking.
	You guys are doing, I don't even know what you guys are talking about, some sidebar conversation.
	Kindly, one person speaking at the time.
	The discipline on this has been terrible thus far.
	One person at a time.
	Go ahead.
	This was just going back to the conversation I was having.
	I'm sorry, what was your name?
	You can call me Pearl.
	Pearl, Pearl, yes, Pearl.
	The conversation I was having with Pearl was I was trying to get down to where her morals come from.
	Not that her morals were wrong, just where they come from.
	This is just going back to the market.
	I get it, but when you're making an epistemic claim, which is what that is, right?
	Epistemology being the study, as we all know, of the epistles.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Joking.
	So when you're making an epistemic claim, you have to account for it.
	And I can account for my epistemic claim with God.
	You're not accounting for your epistemic claim at all.
	You're just saying me.
	Me, my preferences.
	Things that make me feel good is how I account for all the things that are around me, right?
	That's the distinction.
	So it's easy for people to have this bizarre distinction where they're like, your morals are your morals, man, and my morals are my morals, man.
	And we just like, I'll do my own little thing.
	But it's like, clearly, we don't think that that's true, right?
	So for instance, if you looked outside right now and a bunch of Aztecs were cutting the fucking hearts out of people and then kicking them off the temple, you would probably get pretty upset about it, right?
	You'd probably be like, ah, you know, I think that that's immoral and you probably shouldn't be able to.
	And that's kind of transcending perhaps this idea of preferential morality, right?
	It's kind of transcending it.
	So I don't think all morals codes are created equal.
	And I think that some worldviews can account for them and some worldviews can't.
	I agree.
	I was saying I didn't really know exactly about the gender thing because I didn't know that transgender technically was a gender.
	I thought that that's what they just would say for things.
	So I would want to change my answer because I feel like if you choose to want to be like who you want to be, then I feel like they have that choice.
	So I just wanted to change my answer on that.
	Also, just to clarify, my morals don't come from what I find enjoyable.
	Because even though I do find it enjoyable and I like it, I don't think it's morally right.
	Wait, hell no, but then but then you wouldn't do it if you didn't find it enjoyable, right?
	So you're still just doing whatever makes you feel good.
	It makes me feel good, but I don't think it's morally right.
	So don't you do it for the money?
	Things that make you feel good.
	I also just enjoy doing it.
	So you would do it without the money?
	Yeah, I answered this previously, yeah.
	Again, balancing workload, depending on the workload.
	All right, we have some super chats.
	Pelagic logical fallacy is surprising here.
	Pelagic, thank you for the big super chat, man.
	Really appreciate the guys W's in the chat for Pelagic, your legend, sir.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Irving, there are 10 million women between the ages of 18 to 25 in America.
	1.5 million dog.
	Those same women have begun OnlyFans or S work equivalent.
	Another statistic is that roughly 40% of all children in America is being raised by a man who believes that child is actually theirs.
	What?
	Paternity fraud.
	Okay.
	I don't know if the statistic is that high.
	What you might be referencing, Irving, is of the men who challenge paternity and they get a paternity test done, it's something like one in three, so maybe closer to 33% of men are raising children that are not theirs in the event that they are contesting the paternity.
	So this wouldn't account for, it wouldn't be the case that 40% of all children being raised in America, that the father is a cuck, essentially.
	But I think that's the statistic you're referencing.
	Thank you, Irving, though.
	I appreciate the soup chat, Poochie.
	Thank you for the membership.
	Why don't we just do this early?
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven.
	Go ahead, Anya, starting with you.
	I'm seven.
	Six and a half.
	Okay, Chloe.
	Like a six.
	I go six point nine the year of our Lord.
	That was a joke.
	Sorry.
	I'd say like six and a half.
	Okay.
	I'd say six.
	Okay.
	You can't pick seven, huh?
	Can't pick seven.
	That's my favorite number.
	That's like so not fair.
	Okay.
	I'm going to do 6.9.
	I would say beauty is subjective.
	So I would say it would fluctuate like up or down.
	I would say a five.
	Six.
	Wait, you said it would fluctuate up or down?
	Yeah, like, could it ever be a 10?
	No, like, no one is a 10.
	I think anyone who says they are a 10 is pure delusional because I think a 10, you have to be like super flawless with absolutely no cosmetic procedures or hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Do you recall five minutes ago when I kindly told you to shut the fuck up?
	Do you remember five minutes ago?
	What did you just do right now?
	I just was, I forgot what she said, so I was just asking her.
	Why would that matter?
	Because I think that she's way more gorgeous than me.
	So I was just then thinking, oh, right, maybe.
	I understand that you're curious, but I just told you, you can't be doing sidebars.
	She's talking right now.
	It's rude and disruptive to her for you to be leaning over and whispering.
	It's bad for the audio quality for the audience.
	I just told you five minutes ago.
	Now, here's your opportunity: 100 women versus accountability.
	I'm sorry, I'm not going to do it again.
	That's all I need.
	I'm sorry, I won't do it again.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead.
	So, yeah, based off of the fluctuating, it would depend on personal preference, beauty standards, beauty standards are always changing.
	And I don't think anyone is a 10 because everyone has flaws and imperfections.
	And it's just a preference at the end of the day.
	Lovely.
	Okay, going back to you.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Honestly, I think I'm looking better now.
	No.
	The answer is no.
	I think I look better now than I will 10 years' time.
	You're 19.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 29?
	I would say, yeah, yes.
	20 years' time, 39?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 35.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 45?
	Absolutely not, but can only hope.
	Okay, and are you better looking now at 35 than you were at 25?
	Probably last look.
	Yeah, no, I was better at 25.
	Probably.
	You're 23, or will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 33?
	I would say yes, because I can work on myself, you know?
	So whatever I feel like I don't like, I could change.
	Are you talking about plastic surgery?
	No, just like my body or whatever, you know, like in like 10 years, if I were to be working out consistently, like, you know, like things like that, like it could change.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about 20 years' time at 43?
	Better looking than how you look now?
	What did you say?
	I'm so sorry.
	40.
	So you're 23 now.
	In 20 years' time at 43, will you be better looking?
	I would say, yeah, because it's, you know, I feel like a lot of times when you age, like marks and stuff show like the things that you've been through.
	So I would say I would be more beautiful then because it shows like the things I've gone through, you know, or like that I've lived that long.
	Okay.
	So 30 years' time, how about 53?
	Better looking than now?
	Probably now.
	Probably 50, but it depends because a lot of women that are 50 are nowadays, you know, you won't even, you can't even tell.
	So.
	Okay.
	You're 32, better looking in 10 years' time at 42?
	Probably not.
	Okay, and were you better looking 10 years ago at 22?
	Yeah, just because I was more of an athlete.
	I played sports.
	I was more in shape.
	Okay.
	You're 44, better looking in 10 years' time at 54?
	No, I feel like my prime was in between 35 and 40.
	Okay, so if we go back, were you better looking at 34?
	Oh, yes.
	And then were you better looking at 24?
	No.
	Okay.
	I was better looking at my 30s.
	All right.
	I would say it would depend.
	Better looking in 10 years time?
	Yeah, it would depend whether I decide to get any cosmetic procedures.
	I wouldn't, I'm not against it, so what do you think, I guess?
	I've seen like how people get like facelifts and they look unrecognizable.
	They don't even show their age, so it's a possibility.
	So, like, you're 25 now, go forward 10 years, you have flawless plastic, various flawless plastic surgery procedures.
	I'm sure I'd look at 35.
	Probably not as good as in our prime 20s.
	Yeah, it's possible.
	Okay, 20 years' time, 45, better looking with all these plastic surgery interventions.
	No, probably not.
	We start decaying as time comes.
	Okay.
	Felicity, what about you?
	No.
	Do we have the things ready to go, Mary?
	Okay.
	We have Pasty George, chair three, calm down, lady.
	Calm down.
	LOL, I take back calling chairs two and three gross, but not the boring part lol from Pasty George.
	Because you guys were shooting shots at him.
	All right, we have Pasty George, not to be rude or offensive, but chair five looks like she's getting ready to assassinate someone, lol.
	Are you an assassin?
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're good to go?
	Yes.
	Do we have gender yet or no?
	Okay, maybe we'll get those later.
	All right, guys, so we do the segment on the show related to the previous question.
	We age advance all of you guys.
	Some of you said you'd look better in 10, 20, 30 years, whatever it is.
	So we're going to put it to the test.
	Let's go ahead and go through that.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry, Ted.
	No way.
	Oh, gosh.
	All right.
	I hope not because my mom is still objectively very beautiful.
	So I hope that that doesn't happen.
	Please make me a hot grandma.
	Where is that picture?
	Oof.
	Okay.
	What is the years there?
	We're looking at 30, 10 years ahead in 20 years.
	It's just vague aging.
	It's just vague.
	Okay, got it.
	All right, next.
	I'm like, wait.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm the last.
	I'm scared.
	I'm feeling that's not bad.
	Oh, also.
	You actually kind of keep it.
	I'll have my bonsa.
	You're actually kind of cute.
	It's funny how you said that.
	Next.
	Oh, my God.
	That's terrible.
	Hey, you guys.
	Wait, it's mother-daughter here.
	Why didn't we get one of Brian?
	It's, goddamn.
	Relax.
	We'll get there.
	They're going to do it.
	It's okay.
	We'll get there.
	I didn't know.
	Sorry.
	The first picture is good.
	Next.
	Oh, my God.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	I can't wait to see mine.
	Next.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I don't know if I'm going to play.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Who was his best, right?
	Yeah, that's not bad.
	Milk.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh.
	Yeah, definitely need to look at that.
	Look at that.
	It doesn't look bad.
	She's cute.
	It doesn't look bad.
	No, you look good.
	Look at that.
	That picture is really good in the first one.
	Next.
	They snapped a good one.
	Yikes.
	All right.
	Next.
	Last one.
	Oh, my God.
	Silver box.
	You had a professional photo.
	Is there another one?
	There is not.
	Okay, they used an old photo.
	I guess we don't have one of Andrew, but all right.
	We have, let's see here.
	Did we have, did we do this?
	Aren't I already at the end of that aging threshold?
	Something like that.
	Yeah.
	I feel like I'm already an old man.
	You don't even have to add to it.
	It's just always.
	We have a big super chat from Sean Bruce here, the big 200.
	Thank you, man.
	Happy Father's Day to the panel, at least to those who speak to their father.
	That's actually interesting.
	So happy Father's Day, Brian and Andrew.
	Oh, okay.
	So going around the table, are you in touch with your wait, a couple questions here?
	Are your parents still together?
	And do you have a good relationship with your father?
	Go ahead.
	My parents are not together.
	I have a really good relationship with my dad.
	I know this is rich coming for me, but I honestly think he was the best dad I could ever ask for.
	My parents are married, but me and my daughter, really not close, but I'm really close to my mom.
	My mother passed away when I was 18, and my dad died when I was 25.
	So I don't have a relationship with him anymore.
	But when he was alive, we were best friends, and I miss him every day.
	And I had a great, great relationship with my father.
	Well, sorry to hear that.
	What about you?
	My parents are still married.
	And yeah, I have a good relationship with my dad.
	What about your mom?
	No, no kidding.
	Yeah, no.
	Me and my mom are like the same.
	Can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
	Crystal, go ahead.
	My parents are divorced.
	I talked to both parents.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My parents have never really been together.
	It was kind of like a one-night stand thing.
	I actually found my father during COVID through an ancestry DNA test.
	And he's an amazing, incredible man.
	And so I'm close with, I guess I talk with both of them.
	I'm getting to know my dad, but I was raised by my stepdad, but we didn't really have a great relationship.
	Complicated.
	Okay.
	My parents are divorced, and I would say I have a closer relationship with my mom.
	My dad is dead.
	I've disowned my mom.
	Oh, baby.
	Damn.
	Sorry to hear that.
	My parents are still together.
	Great relationship with both parents.
	Not kill you.
	I mean.
	Okay, let's get into the parents are happily married and still together and adore me.
	We're just phenomenal, fantastic parents in every capacity you could imagine.
	Crystal, you getting into your pre-show notes, you said that your content is very hypocritical.
	Although I see points you make that are true, you concentrate more on women rather than men, whereas men can be held accountable in relationships as well.
	And the reason why things don't work out.
	So your disagreement is you disagree with the views of the roles of women that the host talks about, as it is not realistic in today's society and believes what he says is hypocritical, as he believes women should stay at home and take care of the kids,
	but also says women aren't realistic and gold diggers when looking for men making over $100,000 when in reality a salary of $100,000 a year is the least amount to make when trying to take care of a family financially in California without the woman working.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So I don't recall I even have ever even used the term gold digger on the show.
	I do sometimes scoff though if a woman who is not particularly remarkable herself wants a man who say makes $500,000, which would put him in the top 1%.
	I think that's unrealistic.
	If a woman desired a man who makes $100,000, which while it is above the average income, at least even in California, but throughout most of the rest of the country, $100,000, I don't think is that is completely unrealistic.
	It is a man who is starting to get to his way to being a high earner.
	But I think you're uncharacterizing this a bit unfairly.
	Most of my criticism rests when these women come on saying they want a man who makes seven figures, $500,000 plus.
	And they're, again, like I said, not particularly remarkable in their own right.
	Would you disagree with me that it might be unreasonable for an average woman to desire a man who makes or hold out for a man who makes say $500,000 to over a million dollars a year?
	Probably.
	My point was that like a lot of points you make is that women should stay at home and take care of the kids, but in reality, that's not realistic in California.
	A lot of men who are minimum wage don't make enough money for the wife to take care of the kids by themselves.
	That's basically what my point was.
	That is true.
	It's almost like there's 49 other states that you could move to.
	I haven't looked into that.
	I don't know how much you have to make in other states, but I know that that's on average.
	Everything costs the same everywhere, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're paying quite the premium for the sunshine.
	Yeah, I would say so.
	I haven't really, I don't know what minimum wage is over in other states, but my point was towards California.
	Yeah, well, I mean, the thing about California is that it's a cesspool and it's filled to the brim with either scumbag yuppies or degenerate losers.
	L.A. is a horrific place.
	I wouldn't wish not my worst enemy to live in Los Angeles.
	You know what?
	The best place in the world in California to start a business is anywhere outside of California.
	That's the best place.
	Taxes.
	I can disagree with that.
	Pretty bad.
	So yeah, you can raise a family on a single income.
	You just can't do it there.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	It's really hard to raise a family on a single income in California where, you know, I think San Francisco, I looked, the poverty threshold there is like $80,000 a year.
	That's insanity.
	Yeah.
	That's insanity.
	But the Midwest is filled to the brim with jobs.
	So is the South, right?
	It's just that people choose not to leave.
	But it's like, you got to set what your priorities are.
	If you actually want a family, you don't do that in California.
	It's a terrible place to raise a family anyway.
	Yeah.
	I think a lot of the time, too, though, if you're born here, your family lives here, you don't want to move out like your parents, your siblings.
	It's kind of hard moving to a different area also.
	Well, that's what that's, I mean, the whole point of that is, so if you get married, you also adopt your entire husband's family, right?
	That's part of that.
	Yeah.
	So if your husband doesn't live in California, let's say he lives in the Midwest or someplace like that, you do have family then, don't you?
	Yeah, I'd say so.
	Yeah, that's one big perk.
	But another one is like, that's how people start up family dynasties, man.
	That's why there's Wilsons all over.
	That's why it's such a common last name.
	They're all over the place, right?
	There's Wilsons running all over California, Nevada, all the Midwest, the South.
	Families starting up dynasties all over the place.
	If it's too expensive to live, you move somewhere else.
	If you want a family, anyway.
	Yeah.
	I have a question.
	Like, can we like go around and say like how much we put on the paper to like for our husband to make per year?
	I'm just curious.
	Like we can do that right now.
	Minimum yearly income for your future husband?
	I think I put 75K.
	I feel like I put the highest.
	I put a million.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would want someone who makes maybe just like 15% more than I do, just because I feel like it's just makes me feel like he's a bit more masculine.
	So I'm not looking for someone who's, you know, a multi-millionaire, but just someone who's just got it.
	Like if shit hits the fan, you know, can kind of protect me in a disaster.
	Yeah.
	On your notes, you did write equal to you.
	But yeah.
	So I guess, I mean, 15%, sure.
	Yeah.
	What is that, though?
	How much do you make?
	It depends.
	I don't know.
	On average.
	I mean, if I'm DJing nightclubs, if I'm DJing weddings, it really like how much have you, if you had to average it out on a yearly basis, based off of how much you made the past five years, what would you say?
	I can do like one year.
	My maths isn't great.
	But like, so I DJed Croatia Week and I was paid like £8,000 for that week.
	Maybe?
	It really, really depends.
	Sometimes I just do a nightclub and I make £1,000.
	Sometimes it's, yeah, it's up and down.
	Sorry.
	That's not the perfect answer.
	So how much I also have an I also own an apartment with no mortgage in London, so I have passive income from that as well.
	Okay.
	So the guy should make what?
	15% more than me.
	Which is what?
	It goes up and down, honestly.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Roll your eyes as much as you want.
	It's the truth.
	Andrew's saying ballpark?
	For me.
	Ballpark?
	Like $100,000 a year.
	Ballpark.
	Like, I'm not asking for your exact income.
	I feel like that's what it feels like to you.
	We're not trying to get your exact income.
	We're just trying to figure out what you actually want from someone.
	I just feel like it's not very ladylike to say your, like, say how much money you make.
	So I'm a bit shy about it.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I'm just looking for like a ballpark of what your expectation is for a man.
	You don't need to say how much you make.
	You just need to give us the ballpark of what you want your man to make.
	Which is 15% more than what I make.
	That doesn't tell us anything, though, really.
	Well, it kind of does.
	I'm saying that I'm not looking for someone who's asking how much you made.
	That wouldn't help us at all.
	I'm not going to tell you how much money I made.
	Well, then exactly.
	I'll just ask some clarity.
	Would you like a guy to make over $500,000 a year?
	No, it doesn't have to be that much.
	It doesn't have to be that much.
	$200,000?
	It doesn't have to be that much.
	$100,000.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Like, not even.
	What about you?
	Well, to me, it doesn't really matter as long as somebody is working towards something.
	Let's say they don't really make that much money right now, but they're working towards making more money and having a business or doing something that they're passionate about.
	Then that's what I would say.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Probably about $60,000.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	That's a trick.
	That's a trick.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I got a little assignment.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	that's a tricky question for me because i'm already married so um so are we talking about i guess how much does well let's put let's Let's pretend like, and I'm not saying this to be horrible right now, but let's just pretend meteorite strikes your car, right?
	Your poor husband taken out a commission.
	That's the end, right?
	You're single.
	You've gone through your two-year grieving program.
	You're going back out in the dating market.
	What would you be looking for from the financial status of whoever that partner would be?
	For me, there wouldn't be a number.
	It would be also about energy.
	It'd be about like there could be a guy that just bought a small business and working to grow that business.
	For me, it'd be more about the motivation of what they're doing with themselves, right?
	If they're just going to be like a couch potato guy, like nah, you know.
	I know he's a couch potato, but he's really funny.
	Oh, that's my that's really hard because I make good money.
	So, like, listen, if he's gonna make me laugh and clean the house, on a scale of one to ten, he's like at least at 10 hilarious in and funniness, right?
	Yeah, yeah, that I would let him be a stay-home guy, stay-home husband, as long as he made me laugh and like rub my feet at night.
	Yeah, he's gonna rub your feet, though, yes, has to be that.
	I got pretty feet.
	What the heck?
	When did you feel like taking advantage, though, if like he's living off of you?
	No, as long as there is it's more about behaviors, like if he's behaving in a manner of like he's taking advantage of me, that's different.
	But if he's giving me, um, you know, he's taking care of the house, maybe he's helping me file things, maybe he's helping me with my business in some way or some form.
	Um, it'd be just different.
	Well, that wasn't what they said, they just said comedy.
	What about you?
	Um, nothing too crazy, just something enough to sustain living.
	So, I would say like 60 to 70 because a man's value isn't determined what's inside their wallet at the end of the day.
	Uh, one question going back to you: uh, so when did you start getting involved in S work?
	Me, yeah, escorting, S-work, sex work.
	Oh, I was like, I don't do that.
	Um, for me, four years ago.
	Uh, and was this like a prolonged conversation?
	Like, did you bring this to your husband?
	Oh, yeah, he kind of was he on board initially, or did he have his reservations, he definitely had his reservations, um, and we had good conversations about it.
	Um, and with those conversations, we made a decision that this was something I was gonna do.
	He kind of knew, though, for some reason, like he told me like 10 years ago, he he knew some way, somehow, I would end up in the corner industry.
	May I ask, what was his initial when you brought this to him?
	Was it a no?
	Abby Dee know that.
	What?
	Was it a no?
	What?
	Was it a no?
	Oh, no, no.
	He never said no.
	But what was his initial reaction at the beginning?
	Like, what?
	Like, what are you talking about?
	He kind of knew, like, I'd been messing around with social media.
	I was doing, you know, TikToks, Instagrams, Facebook.
	So I was just like, hey, I'm thinking about taking this to a different direction.
	Plus, he had already knew that people in our lives had been asking me, like, hey, what do you think about doing this?
	I think you'd be really great at this.
	So I had other people in my life.
	Wait, other people in your life?
	What do you mean?
	Other friends that were saying, hey, have you ever thought about doing OnlyFans before?
	Were they doing OnlyFans or just no?
	I had one girl one night.
	Go ahead.
	These were your like family friends?
	Well, they were more like friends from like high school and friends from my previous work life and current work life.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But it's okay.
	Some of your friends were trying to get you to do OnlyFans.
	Well, they were talking to me.
	They're like, have you ever thought about doing it?
	So when you first brought the conversation to your husband, what was the period of time that elapsed between the first conversation and you like, okay, so you started making content?
	Probably I would say, let's see.
	So this is bringing up February, March, April, May, probably about two, three months.
	Okay, and remind me, what was his initial response?
	Well, he was just kind of like, like I said, he already kind of knew it was being planted in my life, so he wasn't against it.
	You said 10 years ago, when you brought it up to him recently.
	He knew that in that, how do you say that?
	In that current time, he knew that people in our lives were talking to me about doing it, right?
	So let's say within a six-month period of time, he knew that other people were asking me.
	He knew that the seed was planted in my head.
	So we had had conversations about it, you know?
	But go ahead.
	So, but, okay, that initial conversation, was he on board?
	Where was he?
	He wasn't against it at all.
	He was just kind of like, okay, like, how's it going to work?
	How does this operate?
	You know, what are you going to be doing?
	And it was multiple conversations.
	It just wasn't one conversation.
	Was there any sense from you that you sensed he didn't want you to do it?
	I mean, like, of course there was reservations and conversations that had to happen in communication between me and him, but he never once was like, no, you can't do this.
	I don't want you doing this.
	That leads me to my next question.
	Had he said, either initially or in one of these follow-up conversations, I don't want you to do this, and that was his final position on it, how would that have gone?
	I'm going to be honest, I don't think it would have went over very well with me.
	Yeah, I was going to do it.
	But expand on that.
	Oh, okay, but you were going to do it.
	But I was being respectful.
	I was having conversations with him and talking to him.
	How many conversations did you have with him?
	Oh, we've been conversating, like I said, three months before I even opened my OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	But it sounds to me like he was not on board with it from the get-go.
	Well, he wasn't in it.
	But you were exerting pressure and influence to get him to accept it because perhaps you could paint a picture for me.
	If he had told you, don't do it, you seem to be indicating there would be major issues in the relationship.
	Would you have divorced him?
	I don't know if I would divorce him.
	I mean, that would be having to be a conversation that we'd have.
	But throughout my life in 24 years, I've sacrificed a lot of things for my marriage and my family.
	And this one, I just, I wasn't going to sacrifice this time.
	Can I ask?
	You do boy girl content, right?
	I do do boy girl content.
	Do you do boy girl content with him?
	We do.
	We have some videos, but priority, not him.
	So wait, hold on.
	You do content with other men?
	I do.
	Wait.
	This is a new development.
	Hold on.
	How many, are you in the traditional adult content space or is this just through OF?
	Oh, what do you mean?
	Like, well, like, like in, what's the place in Los Angeles?
	San Bernard is that where they'd shoot all the like do you do traditional Do I do professional?
	Yeah, professional.
	Yeah, I do professional.
	And question, you've been married for 24 years.
	Correct.
	Have you been monogamous throughout the course of your 24-year marriage?
	Oh, no, him and I have had multiple threesomes and other partners.
	Sorry, daughter.
	But so at the beginning, was it monogamous?
	I'd probably say the first maybe 10 years.
	The first 10 years.
	Okay, whose idea was it to open up the relationship?
	That would be me.
	Okay, and I was the instigator with that one.
	Were there, now, just not accusing you of anything, but had you been, was there any infidelity prior to your desire to open up the relationship?
	Honestly, yes.
	Okay.
	And he's aware of it.
	On your part or on his part?
	On my part.
	Okay.
	So you were monogamous for 10 years.
	How soon into the marriage did you start seeing other men, I guess?
	So I would say about 12 years into the relationship.
	Oh, 12 years.
	Yeah, 11, 12 years.
	So about 2011?
	You said you opened up the relationship 10 years in.
	So 2010 is when we go to Vegas, right?
	2011, 2012.
	So I'd probably say 2013 is when we opened the relationship to get my time right.
	But there was infidelity on your part prior to you opening the relationship.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I was going to discuss it.
	Had you disclosed to him about the infidelity or?
	We had when we came to the decision to stay together.
	But we were not separating due to my being with other people.
	We were separating for other reasons.
	Okay.
	So when you opened up the relationship, there had been some infidelity up until that point.
	Can you tell me, though, when you guys opened it up, was he seeing, like, has he seen other women?
	No, it's more me bringing other women home.
	Oh, so you guys would have three sons?
	When you were cheating on him, were you, was it with women, men, or both?
	When I was cheating on him.
	Well, you said there was infidelity prior to you guys opening up the relationship.
	It was Mel.
	It was what?
	It was a male.
	One male.
	Okay.
	And was this like a one-time thing, or was it ongoing?
	This was a long-going affair.
	Ongoing, okay.
	And then was that the pretext or reason for you wanting to open it up?
	Because there's maybe a sense of guilt related to the infidelity and you felt like I didn't have any guilt.
	We were not.
	I didn't have any guilt towards the affair that I had.
	Why is that?
	I mean, we were just in a really rough time, and I'll be honest with you, I didn't think our marriage was going to survive, nor did at that time I wanted my marriage to survive.
	So this is just being completely honest here.
	You know, this covering I appreciate the honesty.
	So in my mental space, I was done with my marriage.
	I was ready to move on.
	And I was moving on, not only mentally, but physically, trying to figure out how I could get out of the marriage completely at that time.
	Okay.
	So you opened up the relationship.
	But did he want the, I know the relationship that or the marriage was on the rocks, but did he want to open up the marriage?
	I mean, you know, I don't, I'd say honestly, probably not.
	You know, he is satisfied with just having me.
	I have always been very bisexual and I have always been a very sexual individual.
	And I think that's why he knew prior to me even doing this that there was a potential chance I would end up some way somehow doing corn.
	So for me, I just, I really enjoy having a man and, you know, a female in the sexual preference.
	While you guys were married, perhaps at the earlier portions of your marriage, were you stay-at-home and was he working?
	So, here we go.
	So I would say the first three years, I was a stay-at-home mom.
	He worked and then it went from the next five, six years, like he was a stay-at-home dad.
	I worked, and then it went kind of to us both working while the kids went to school when the kids were completely off in school full-time.
	Okay.
	I guess though, bringing it back, you said there were some shaky periods of your marriage, but that was what, 14 years ago?
	That was 2010 is when I left.
	Okay, 14, 15 years ago.
	You guys obviously have remained married, though.
	So you guys, I assume, reconciled your issues.
	Yeah.
	And that happened.
	When was the future, I guess?
	I don't know the exact date or like year when I lived in Vegas.
	I mean, 24 years is a long time timeline.
	I don't know.
	Like, we just started building our friendship again and building our friendship.
	And then, like, yeah.
	And then I think that when people live together for so long, like, it's hard not to reconcile.
	What's the word?
	I don't even know how to say the word.
	But, you know, you're like, hey, this has happened.
	This has happened.
	This has happened.
	And, you know, moved on.
	Okay.
	And then just bringing it back to my initial point, you started doing OF.
	You're doing content with other men.
	You're sleeping with other men for content, not just for fun, I guess.
	He's okay with this?
	Yeah.
	I mean, like, we've had this conversation, right?
	I don't, like, where my heart is today, like, I have no interest in dating somebody or getting emotionally attached to them in any way, shape, or form.
	When I have these encounters, it is just sex.
	And a lot of the time, it's, you know, monetized, right?
	We're having, we're creating a video so that we can sell the video.
	I don't have an emotional attachment to them at all.
	Some of them are really great friends, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to leave my husband for them.
	Me and my husband have a very strong relationship now.
	So going back to the question, though, would you, if your husband had said, I don't want you, the whole young answer would be no.
	The whole relationship being opened up or the marriage opening up kind of muddies the water a little bit because there was already prior to you doing OnlyFans, there's this component of we were already having sex together with other men.
	Oh, he was sleeping with other women.
	With me.
	Okay, but then you would, does he sleep with men?
	No, no.
	But he'll have Devil's Threesomes with you.
	Yeah.
	So there'll be another.
	So it's girl guy guy.
	Yeah, so he's had threesomes with me with another male.
	Are you feeling a bit traumatized right now?
	I'm like, he knows.
	Yeah, he knows.
	So wait.
	So he's, does he, has he ever done like cuck stuff?
	Like he watches in the corner?
	Well, so he is my biggest fan and he really enjoys my videos.
	And I really think that this was a kink that kind of progressed over the development of my career.
	But we found that he really does enjoy watching my videos while I do activities.
	Just to be clear, just to make it blunt, he enjoys watching your videos of you having sex with other men.
	Why I perform activities.
	Having sex with other men?
	No, on him.
	Oh.
	Oh, God.
	I was trying to be.
	Wait, hang on.
	Hang on.
	No, I'm not.
	I just want to clarify this.
	You're performing sex acts on him while he's watching you perform sex acts on other people.
	Yeah, on the phone.
	Yeah.
	Wait, he watches.
	But he's not the guy sit there in the corner and like watch somebody have sex with me and not participate.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like he wants to participate.
	So I wouldn't categorize him as a cuck.
	I know it's complicated.
	I literally.
	Wait, wait, hang on.
	Hang on.
	But he does like watching other men doing things with you while he's doing things with you.
	Yeah.
	That would be definitionally cuckoldery.
	Like on his phone.
	So, okay, he's having sex with you.
	On his phone, he's watching a video of you having sex with other men.
	It's really hot.
	Like, this is like intense sex, like crazy wild sex.
	Excuse me?
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Wait.
	Okay, finally.
	Who said that?
	You?
	No, it was the soundboard.
	Oh, okay.
	So, okay.
	He's like, it's going to be.
	He's like, don't play with me.
	So, wait.
	If he had said, no, you're not going to do OnlyFans, would it have been the end of the marriage?
	Would you have divorced him?
	Well, I would have said that.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I'm going to be honest.
	Like, I was going, I will.
	You were going to leave.
	If he wanted to leave, he could leave if he wanted to leave.
	If he wanted to stay, he could stay.
	Sure.
	So if he put his foot down, you would have said, well, we've talked about it.
	I don't really, I've heard you out, but I don't care what you think.
	I'm going to do it anyways.
	I can't download 24 years of experience, but during the experiences that we've had, this was this one time where I was like, this is something I'm not willing to sacrifice.
	So you wouldn't, sorry.
	Two more last things.
	So you wouldn't have divorced him, but you would have.
	If he wanted to leave.
	If it was such a deal breaker for him, he would have divorced you, I guess.
	Okay.
	And then I guess my final thought on this, just my, and then I'll pass it over to Andrew.
	Public service announcement to the men watching.
	If your wife, one, wants to open up the relationship, no.
	And then if she wants to start doing OnlyFans or other kind of sex work, no.
	That's a divorce.
	That's a good thing.
	Waiting to happen.
	It's over.
	It's over.
	I mean, honestly, even if she brings it up, but then you like convince her not to do that shit, you should probably still get the divorce.
	The relationship's over.
	Once she's breached the conversation of open relationship, even if like you guys sit down and you're, you know, you're like, no, I want you, I want this to stay monogamous.
	And she's like, well, I guess, okay, no, it's over.
	If she even, if, if she even, I don't even know, if she Google searches that shit, you have to divorce.
	How to open any sort of hint that she wants an open relationship or she's going to have a conversation with you, instant divorce.
	She wants to do OnlyFans, instant divorce.
	I disagree.
	I have so many friends who are in happily married relationships that are swingers and they have very healthy marriages.
	Look, that's not for everybody.
	Prescriptively, what the advice I would give to men is: it is unacceptable for your girlfriend or wife to be having sex with another man.
	That is the bare minimum of just having any sort of coherent, reasonable standard for your partner.
	They should not be having sexual intercourse, carnal knowledge with another man.
	That's an L for you.
	If she wants to open the relationship, she wants to do OF, it's a wrap.
	Back to the streets, she goes.
	Hold on.
	She belongs, so to speak.
	Back to the streets.
	Look, if you're dealing with a chick that's already involved in that shit, that's on you.
	But if your relationship is monogamous and she's not doing OF and she's moving in that direction, that is the end of the relationship.
	If you have any self-respect as a man, you have something quick.
	Then I'm passing it off to Andrew.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, for sure.
	So it sounds like you not to accuse you of anything, but it sounds like you really pressured him into both of these decisions.
	Do you think he holds any resentment against you long-term over this?
	This is something that I keep in mind and why I stay single because I wouldn't want to force a partner into being okay with something that I do and then hold resentment resentment against me for it.
	They had a pretty forceful resentment.
	Yeah, I didn't force him to do anything.
	I gave him the opportunity.
	Because they had a pretty good idea.
	If he wanted to leave.
	Because they had a pretty rough relationship growing up, like in general.
	So it was like, if he wanted to stay like that, that was his choice.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, because he obviously wasn't doing the things that he needed to be doing as a man.
	Wait, just to clarify, that's your biological body, right?
	Correct.
	This is my father.
	So.
	Okay, so don't you think there was any incentive for him to be like, well, I still want to be, you know, there with my daughter.
	There's this pressure that you have to stay with her.
	I have a child.
	Yada, yada, yada.
	I guess I'll let her do this just because I want to do that.
	All my kids are grown.
	See, and the thing is, is my dad was never like that.
	Like, my mom did everything for us.
	You know, like my dad was there and stuff, but my mom was the one that was really did everything for us.
	So, but it's true.
	Like, but we're going to like.
	I know.
	But he did do stuff for us, still.
	He was there.
	But I'm just saying, for example, for the conversation of, do you feel like you were pressuring him that he did it for us?
	I don't think he did it for us.
	He did it because he wanted to be with her, not for us.
	Because it was complications in marriage, with any marriage, especially a 24-year marriage.
	That's a very long time.
	There is so many things to contribute.
	And this was just, if he wanted to leave, he was more than welcome to leave, or he could stay and we could work it out with what I was doing.
	But there definitely wasn't any pressure.
	And people might think I'm a B, and I really don't care.
	I really, really don't.
	But I do love having the conversation, helping people understand that perspective.
	I don't think it's fair to say there was no pressure over on this level.
	Oh, no.
	There's definitely pressure around it.
	I'm not saying you tied him down.
	You're like, you're staying here, but there's definitely an emotional, a familial pressure around staying with your wife.
	Well, when I was like third grade, my mom had left my dad and took me and we left.
	And so the reason why they, you know, they got back together for the kids and for stuff like that.
	So to be honest with you, like it was already like to the point where it wasn't exactly like a relationship is already supposed to be like.
	So it was kind of like it wasn't like they were like doing it, like, you know, it was different.
	It was different than that.
	Well, I have a very quickly.
	I wanted to read this to you.
	This was a super chat I got on my end that summarizes a lot of what people are thinking right now hearing this story.
	This comes in from Mikey and he says, My husband is great.
	I cheated on him.
	I let him watch me sleep with our friends.
	I would have divorced him if he didn't let me do OnlyFans.
	He's amazing.
	Right?
	That kind of summarizes, I think, the thoughts of a lot of people right now who are kind of listening to this tale.
	Like, here, I'll just give you, I'll give you another example of this.
	Why this is so foreign to me.
	So, if one of my daughters, for instance, was ever bad-mouthing me in public, ever, talking, if like my wife would re-lean over, doesn't matter.
	Is 25, 35.
	My wife would lean over and smack her across the mouth.
	You know, you ever talk about your dad like that again, I'll rip your heart, right?
	She would never in a million years, right?
	But this kind of almost flagrant, right?
	Like, um, your daughter's there, and she just kind of runs her old man down.
	I'm not running him down, I'm just yeah, you're kind of running him down.
	Oh, I'm just saying that at the end of the day, like, there's other things that my mom was gonna do, like modeling and stuff like that.
	And my dad, because of his jealous, like being jealous and stuff like that, caused us to not be able to have a different life that we were supposed to have.
	So, for example, like she's trying to make something for us that he doesn't want other men to fuck his wife.
	Yeah, no, she's not even talking about that.
	She's talking about other opportunities like modeling because she was doing runways, like other stuff.
	She was managing a company, and my dad was so jealous that she had to leave and go do these things, trying to be a productive, responsible woman, trying to make something for her family.
	And my father was like jealous about those things.
	And so, it kind of to the point where my mom had to stop doing that.
	Wouldn't you want your dad to want your wife, your mom, all to himself, not to share her with any other men?
	They're not going to understand because they don't know the history.
	Was it SFW modeling or NSFW modeling?
	It was doing the makeup and stuff.
	She was until four years ago.
	I had nothing to do with the corn industry.
	No, this was when I was younger.
	She was doing actual things for actual projects for runway and things like that.
	And because my mom had to go stay with the guy that was married, like he wouldn't let her.
	He wanted to stand there and be there.
	And he ruined that.
	So basically, but he wasn't drived to do something more for us.
	You know what I mean?
	So it was like my mom was trying to do all this.
	Didn't my wife go stay with some guy so she could go be a model?
	No, but that's not what it is.
	They're not going to understand.
	She wasn't modeling.
	She was running model shows.
	Like she was doing the runway, like getting them dressed, doing the stuff, like doing productive things with that.
	Working with the guy that was running it all.
	And he was jealous that she was trying to work just because he was a man.
	And we weren't in the same hotel.
	They weren't.
	It was just the fact that he, she was doing something that he wasn't allowed to do too.
	That was the problem.
	So I'm not saying that, like, that he didn't do anything.
	Yes, he was there.
	I love him so much.
	I'm thankful for everything that he's done for me.
	But at the end of the day, like, my mom deserves also to be able to make something for her family.
	And if he's not doing that, then like he can't stop her from doing that because someone has to do it.
	Yeah, I mean, I think a husband can do that.
	I think a husband has the authority to absolutely say whether he's comfortable with or not comfortable with when it comes to the work of his wife.
	I think wives, I think wives do that all the time.
	So I'll give you an example.
	There's a lot of men out there who work very dangerous jobs.
	And there's been times where I've seen actual grateful women.
	I go to them and say, listen, sweetheart, the job that you're doing is extremely dangerous, and I just want you to come home.
	So I want you to switch occupations because I literally want you to come home.
	I need you to come home.
	I adore you.
	But the job that she was doing wasn't dangerous.
	That's not the point.
	The point is, is that it's a matter of responding to the preference of the partner, also, understanding that people have boundaries, right?
	It's not that the guy wants to quit being a firefighter.
	So he should have been doing.
	Maybe he loves being a firefighter.
	Let's say he loves being a firefighter, but the wife comes to him and is like, look, I need you to come home at the end of the day.
	I want you to switch occupations, even if you love being a firefighter.
	This happens all the time.
	And men will usually go, okay.
	They'll accommodate and switch in occupations even for something they love to accommodate their women.
	I just don't ever see that vice versa.
	Okay.
	It's just, honey.
	It's fine.
	Yeah.
	Like I said, in the beginning of the podcast, everybody has their own opinion.
	That's fair.
	I don't know the history, but I'm just saying that.
	And I respect that, and I totally respect your opinion.
	But like, I just, I know what I've sacrificed and what I've given and what I've put in over and over and over and over again.
	And this was just, and maybe I'm 44 years old now.
	My kids are grown, right?
	Most of them are out of the house, right?
	And so this was point of my time where I'm making this decision.
	This is what I'm doing, right?
	And like I said, I love my husband.
	And if he wants to stay with me, he can.
	But if he doesn't want to stay with me, I'm okay with that.
	You're okay if your husband didn't want to stay with you.
	I'm not here to control anybody, right?
	And if that's something that somebody doesn't want to choose to be in my life, right?
	I'm not here to control anybody's life anymore.
	You know, maybe when I was in no tank offense of this lady's in their 20s, but in my 20s, I'm at a point where my life, right?
	I'm not bigging anybody to stay and I'm not bigging anybody to accept my decisions that the things that I'm doing.
	Like, if you don't want to get on board and you don't like it, that's okay.
	I'm okay with that, right?
	Actually, I am actually having some difficulty wrapping my head around this.
	I mean, I've been, I haven't been married quite as long as you, but I've been married for an awful long time.
	And if I think if I said to my wife, you know, I just don't really care if you stay or you go.
	Like, I don't think that she would see that as a my husband loves me very much type of thing.
	Because to be honest with you, I don't think that she would see it that way.
	Yeah.
	I'm just not, people see things differently.
	Yeah, it's just, it's, we live completely different lives, right?
	And completely different lifestyles.
	Exactly.
	And you can't, like, I can't expect someone to understand things like that.
	And then I can't understand a lot of things that other people are going, you know, so it's like, it's just sometimes when you're not in that predicament in your life, like you can't really understand what is actually going on.
	But everybody has a right to their own opinions, that's for sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I understand we all have a right to an opinion.
	So, but I'm trying to understand the view, right?
	So I'm actually trying to understand it from your perspective, not just from mine.
	Yeah, if you're saying that I'm going to do that is I'm going to obviously relate it to my own experiences like you are, so I can try to understand where it is that you're coming from.
	But if somebody came to you, a friend of yours came to you who was a man and said, you know, I don't really give a shit if my wife leaves or she stays.
	Would you think in your head, well, this is a man who adores his wife?
	Well, if they've had experiences in life like 20 years of being together.
	You don't know all the past.
	You don't know everything.
	You don't know all the things.
	I just, I want to know because it's not that I don't love my husband.
	I love my husband.
	I really, really do.
	But I love what I do.
	I genuinely love what I do.
	And maybe it is my kids are grown.
	I've raised my kids.
	My kids are out of the house.
	They're doing their own thing.
	I have grandkids that are out there in the world.
	Right.
	And this is where like I'm like, okay, what am I going to do next?
	Right.
	And I love what I do.
	Right.
	And I'm just, because somebody doesn't want me to do that, I should make the decision that I'm not going to pursue the thing that I'm doing because I love it and I enjoy it because somebody said that I shouldn't do it.
	Can I get a point of clarity?
	You said you opened your relationship and you did say that you do have relations with other men, just you two.
	Does he have other relations with other women, just himself?
	No, he chooses not to.
	He knows that he has.
	He knows that he has, like if he came and said, honey, I'm going to go meet with this girl, like all that kind of stuff, I would be okay with that.
	It would be hypocritical of me not to be okay with that.
	You know?
	So I'm not going to, but I'm not going, I'm not going to be like, oh, no, you can't do that.
	You know?
	No, I'm be like, have fun.
	Be safe.
	Did you guys talk about this before you got married?
	Oh, no, honey.
	We met, I was 19 years old.
	I met in January 14th of 2000, and we were married August 10th of 2000.
	So there was no conversation there.
	You guys expected it to just be you too?
	Oh, no.
	We got married because I was pregnant.
	Yeah, that's the only reason it was.
	Yeah, it was because my older brother, he's a year, one month and 10 days older than me.
	We're like technically Irish twins.
	She got pregnant with him.
	She didn't even know him for that long.
	So it was like, it was kind of like they were just making things happen.
	And then they ended up, you know, running to raise us and stuff like that.
	Like they didn't really even know each other for that long to begin with to have conversations like that.
	Yeah.
	Because everything happened so quickly.
	Yeah.
	We're literally, I was thrilled.
	He has been there.
	He's a great dad.
	But I'm just saying, like, what I mean by that is like he has no right to tell my mom basically what she can or cannot do just because of the fact that my mom has done everything that she can do.
	And it would have been just selfish from all the other things that's happened in the past from other things that we could have been doing right now instead of this.
	Is your dad supportive of your OF?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, then he's a great dad.
	Yeah.
	I don't think he's a great dad anyway.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think that's my view on it.
	I think he's seen like what we how hard we work, how much fun we actually have, how we impact people.
	And we don't just impact people on a sexual level.
	We also do social media.
	And I'm also for work.
	And we do a lot, we do a lot of positivity out there.
	So it's not just all 80% of my content is safe for work.
	20% of my content is not safe for work.
	And he knows that I'm not doing this to do this forever.
	He knows that I'm doing this because I'm trying to be able to do the money to be able to start my, you know, my business, to go to school, to be able to have bigger things.
	Like this isn't the long term.
	Like I'm not expecting to do this for the rest of my life.
	I'm expecting for this to be able to make something of other things so that I can actually focus on those things instead of having to work at night to five, not making anything, struggling to survive, trying to then go to school and make something of my life and for my children.
	There are millions and millions and millions and hundreds of millions and actually billions of young women who go to school and work their way through without ever selling a single nude, without ever sucking a single dick, without ever doing any of that.
	There's literally over a billion who are alive right now.
	who are live right now at least in that age bracket probably around a billion and it's like but a lot of those people How is it that this idea of like, I need money?
	It's like, well, everybody needs money.
	Everybody needs money.
	But me as a father, I think, would I, like, I can't control my adult children.
	I can't do anything about the choices that they make ultimately except weigh in.
	That's true.
	There's nothing I can do.
	It's out of my hands except to put whatever pressure I can, which is very little in modernity, right?
	I can't go kick in the door and drag them out, whatever stupid thing they're doing, even though sometimes I would probably prefer to.
	But I would never support those endeavors.
	I'd never be like, I am here to support what it is that you're doing, especially when it came to something like that.
	You know, that doesn't sound to me like a typical father would think.
	If your daughter came to you and said that she was doing this, what would you do?
	Would you disown her?
	Or would you somehow find out a way to support her?
	If you're doing something which is this horrific, at least from my view, especially a Christian view, it's not that I would stop loving my kids.
	I don't even think that would be possible.
	Exactly.
	Right?
	But that doesn't mean that I would ever enable such behavior.
	And I would love to be known: not only do I not support this, but I'm going to apply as much pressure as I possibly can within the confines and boundaries which are reasonable to make it known that I'm not going to support this behavior.
	And if that includes me distancing myself, I think actually that's what good parenting is.
	Sometimes putting down really staunch, tough boundaries, right?
	Because kids also like to shit test, don't they?
	You know that.
	They love to shit test.
	It's one of their favorite things to do.
	And one of the things that happens when they shit test, right, and they want to have a game of the wills against an old, stubborn man like myself, well, I'm going to win in the end, right?
	I'm going to win in the end.
	So the thing is, is like, look, I don't think that that is ultimately what good fathers would do.
	I don't think good fathers would not apply that type of pressure.
	I don't, I mean, it sounds to me almost like the guy's a pimp in a way, right?
	He is not.
	He's not in any way, shape, or form of that.
	Well, I mean, he's benefiting from you sleeping with other people.
	Oh, yeah, but he's not choosing who I'm being with and when I'm with.
	I manage my business 100% myself.
	Yeah, maybe he's not setting it up for you.
	No.
	You know, but he doesn't do anything with my business.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, maybe it's not completely accurate to say pimp, but it's something that sounds very akin to pimping.
	Something very closely related to that.
	Yeah.
	So just saying, just my just my two cents on it.
	We have some chats coming through that we are going to read.
	We have Pasty George.
	If you have a kid or kids, your priority is the family.
	And the parent or parents should move to an area that is affordable and good for the children's upbringing.
	That's just my opinion, though.
	I believe that was in response to you, Crystal.
	We have Pasty George, do appreciate your message.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Metro Matt, it's been a minute.
	Good to see you, man.
	This might be the most disgusting conversation to have in front of your daughter.
	Men, stop being feeble and propping this behavior up.
	Get some.
	Wait, where is it?
	Hold on.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	All right.
	Thank you, Metro Matt.
	Good to see you back, man.
	We have Inquisitor Zeal.
	Andrew, given how this hag will burn in, what the fuck?
	Burn in hell.
	Has dragged her own daughter to hell, and her actions are unlikely to be rare.
	When do we as Christians reckon with our failure to evangelize the world?
	I love the judgment.
	I love the judgment.
	Hilarious.
	You know, it's a common misconception that Christians aren't allowed to judge.
	Yeah.
	Very common misconception.
	Not only are we allowed to judge, we're told to righteously judge.
	Otherwise, how would we ever distinguish what is sin and what is not if we did not have judgment?
	Yep.
	So the thing is, is that this is something often that you hear atheists say or people who dislike Christians.
	Christians are so judgmental.
	It's like, well, yeah, they're supposed to be.
	That's the way that we determine and keep ourselves honest and keep our own in-groups proper.
	And that's also the way that we engage with the world so that we know that we're not engaging in sinful behavior.
	But it's just a common misconception.
	It's like, when you call a Christian judgmental, I'm always like, good.
	You know, I have judgment and I use it.
	Exactly.
	You're right.
	I have judgment and I use it.
	Yes.
	It's making me really upset that the bird, like you guys are not helping the bird to get out.
	It's making you upset.
	Yeah, Brian, can you like what you tell me, Chloe?
	Tell me what you would like me to do about it.
	I mean, you could stand on that chair and grab it with your hands.
	Like, I don't think I can reach that far, even if I'm in a chair by your tool.
	Can we open one of those windows?
	They don't open.
	Those don't.
	None of those things.
	Just grab him.
	The windows don't open.
	Just grab.
	Chloe's trolling.
	You can't grab a bird.
	Yes, you can.
	The ceilings are like 30 feet tall.
	You could reach the bride up and grab the bird.
	There's literally nothing I can do.
	The bird is actually retarded.
	Can they hear?
	Can they hear it flapping?
	I'm not sure.
	Wait, chat, can you hear the little occasional intermittent, like.
	He's literally suffering.
	Wait, be quiet for a second.
	Wait, be quiet for a sec.
	I'm going to.
	Now he's not flapping at all.
	Wait.
	Wait for it.
	Can you guys chat?
	Can you hear that?
	I think it's probably pretty minor, but.
	What about the bird's feelings?
	Yeah.
	Look, there's literally, there's nothing I can do.
	Say, what's going to happen to the bed?
	You know, Chloe, let it die.
	Like, if it'll be a studio pet.
	Yeah, it's probably going to end up fucking dying of exhaustion.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, there's nothing I can do about it.
	It's fucking nature, whatever.
	But it's in your girl over here, the British girl's looking at me like, oh my God.
	He's just going to let the bird die.
	What am I supposed to do?
	There's literally nothing I can do.
	I mean, I could get on your shoulders and grab it.
	I ain't putting your BBL on my shoulders.
	We could get to that.
	I don't have a BBL.
	You have some.
	Okay, you have fat transfers.
	No, I don't.
	No, I don't.
	I only have my boobs done.
	I don't know.
	You DM'd me this, literally asking me if I have a BBL.
	You asked me so many times.
	I don't have a BBL.
	I asked you once.
	No, you asked me last time I was on the show, too.
	Oh, I asked you, yeah, on the show.
	Because in the same way that you lied about your age, Chloe, you remember how you lied about your age?
	Chloe.
	She's ignoring me because.
	Chloe, you remember how you lied about your age last show?
	Yeah, I did.
	Yeah, okay, so it's fair to, given that it looks like you have a BBL and you lied about something else.
	I appreciate that.
	I really would like to get a BBL, but I don't.
	Okay, well, maybe you have like that fat transfer things that the Kardashians are.
	That's that BBL.
	No, but they put it in the hip, like the fat transfer.
	What's a BBL?
	I don't, is it?
	Brazilian buttless.
	I'm so skinny to get a BBL in the first place.
	Okay, then you have implants or something.
	I don't.
	I really don't.
	I swear to you.
	She's definitely out of baby.
	I literally don't.
	Look, there's nothing I can do.
	Yeah, I have my boobs done.
	I got my boobs on when I was 18.
	I don't have, like, I would need a boob.
	I've done nothing else.
	I've done nothing else in my face.
	Oh, hang on.
	Can we also just point out that who cares if the bird dies?
	Fuck the bird.
	And you're doing.
	Well, I understand that from a man's lips.
	If the bird croaks in the studio right this second, I don't give a fuck.
	Are you a vegetarian?
	Literally nothing.
	I used to be a vegetarian.
	Okay, well, you're killing cows and pigs and survival of the finish.
	That was a really stupid thing.
	I like hunting and stuff, but like with a double-blood.
	We've left a hummingbird.
	Like, it's a very sweet bird.
	And it's quite distracting as well.
	Do you see that?
	If you like hunting, but you're worried about the birds.
	Hold up, hold on, hold on.
	I mean, I'm from Tennessee, so if it was up to me, I would love nothing more than the moment that bird flew in to have brought it back outside.
	I don't want the bird to die.
	But if the bird is so retarded, despite the doors being open, like literally 12 feet of like my wingspan, that's how wide the doors are.
	It's literally could, the same way it came in, it could go right back out the same way it came in.
	It's too retarded because other window here and it sees blue sky.
	If you're worried about birds, all along California, have you guys ever drove up the coast and seen all those giant windmills that are going?
	The thousands of giant windmills?
	Those kill hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and thousands and thousands of birds non-stop.
	All they do is run it.
	I'm not doing with me.
	Like, I don't make those.
	Justice for the hummingbird.
	Yeah, hashtag for the hummingbird.
	Justice for the hummingbird.
	No justice, Brian.
	No peace.
	No justice.
	No.
	It would be so easy for you to grab it.
	No, it literally wouldn't.
	How tall do you think he is to go?
	That's like 10 feet.
	That is 10 feet up.
	I'm not going to do that.
	I'm not going to do that.
	It's a messed up guy.
	Now I just kind of want the bird to die because it'll make you mad.
	It should die on the center of the table.
	I'm just kind of like, well, let it die.
	Get a hat.
	Let it die.
	All right.
	So, yeah, oh, a hat.
	If I had a pool net, I would maybe, maybe be able to get it.
	But like, yeah, anyways.
	He just doesn't want to stand up for some reason.
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	You do realize if I tried to grab for it, it would just fly.
	It wouldn't go towards me.
	Literally snakes all the time.
	A snake is on the ground.
	A bird's anything.
	A fucking eagle.
	What if we write an eagle?
	You could bribe it with snacks.
	Ground animals.
	How many axes?
	There's only two axes.
	An X axis.
	Y birds are three-dimensional.
	No one's ever captured a bird.
	Hang on.
	Lot their fucking hands, bro.
	They hop.
	Like, yes, they hop.
	Usually a monster.
	Hang on.
	Wait a second.
	What if it's the case that the bird flew in because outside there's a predator that was chasing it and it got scared and so it flew in here and it's not leaving because there's a predator out there.
	Whoa.
	You want to try to catch that.
	That's out of the senses thing right up.
	What?
	The psychopath wants to send this bird off to its demise.
	What the hell is wrong with you?
	You are a fucking monster.
	You twisted that shit so fast.
	Monsters.
	You twisted that so fast.
	It's not in there for no reason.
	There's an eagle out there.
	It wants to destroy it.
	Oh, Andrew, that was so brilliant.
	That was so brilliant.
	Andrew, actually, you know, when I went off to the balcony, I actually saw a falcon, multiple falcons out there, and falcons prey on hummingbirds.
	So Andrew has a great, yes, Andrew has a great point.
	Fantastic point.
	It flew in.
	I have given the bird sanctuary.
	I'm keeping it.
	This is a sanctuary for the bird.
	You can't murder the damn thing.
	What the hell?
	You're trying to send it back to the mean streets of Santa Barbara.
	Back to the streets.
	The mean streets.
	And I'm here.
	I'm here just letting it chill.
	Y'all freaking out.
	I'm like, it's my homie now.
	That's fucking, that's the homie.
	That's hilarious.
	He does this shit all the time.
	Anyways, good talk.
	Good talk.
	That was great.
	Okay, we got some chats.
	We should name the bad.
	Yes, we should name it Buckingham.
	Okay, the open relationship thing is so fucking stupid and just a reason for a woman to be a 3-0 foe.
	Any guy who condones this or takes part is a pathetic cuck and total degenerate.
	The times that we live in, and he follows this by saying, thank you, Pasty George, appreciate it.
	One of the main problems we have today is that many women have become modern-day succubi and only care about what feels good.
	What is okay, okay, what is easy and what they think is right when it is, in fact, wrong.
	The way you made a British accent made it a little bit better.
	It made it better, though.
	It eased it.
	It eased it.
	I see the British accent does some.
	Pasty George, chair four and six.
	It sounds like that men just gave up on both of you.
	And I didn't blame him for doing so either.
	Now it's like South African.
	That was your word.
	Besides, what the Es could he do?
	That's like New Zealand.
	That was great.
	The trashy London voice.
	Scouse.
	Hello, God.
	You know, like, governor, you want some fish and chips, my.
	I could try to do a scouse scousa.
	That's the hardest one.
	I can't do it.
	Chair two, why can't you get the bird?
	Aren't you a strong, independent woman?
	I could.
	I asked if I could stand on the chair and try to get away from the body.
	You know, this is why the patriarchy exists.
	When there's ever some sort of animal or an insect that comes inside, the women are like freaking out.
	Muffin.
	You see, when I was young, we played this stupid game.
	It was called I'm Not Gonna Get Off the Couch for Any Reason game.
	And we would literally look for things around us to build tools to get whatever the fuck it was that we were trying to get.
	There has to be something.
	They do this all the time for no good reason at all.
	Look, it says melt a popsicle and they'll go, they'll leave.
	I think that would be grab one of the sex dolls over there and just like smack the paper.
	Is that what those are?
	What a lovely way to go.
	Is there a sex dollar?
	Love it.
	Okay, we have some more super chats.
	We have name taken.
	Chair six: if your husband was in a terrible accident and he needed 24-7 care, so you had to choose between either A, quitting OF so that you could provide him with the care he needed, or B, leaving him in his infirm state so you could do OnlyFans, which would you choose?
	Well, how would I be able to financially support him?
	Would I have to go back to doing facials?
	I think I would say that his medical expenses were going to be pretty high, so I'd probably have to pick up the pace.
	Probably hire help.
	He does support him.
	It's the question.
	It's saying if he was in a terrible accident and he needed 24-7 care.
	If neither one of us are working, we live in California.
	We will be homeless in like 30 days if you don't pay rent here.
	What would they give you like a 30-day, three-day evict?
	Like there would have to be some form of financial support.
	And to make sure that he had really great medical care, I would continue doing what I'm doing.
	No higher power.
	The question is, it's kind of an either-or.
	So, yeah, there would be other circumstances where perhaps there would be a financial impact on you, but it's quitting OF so that you could provide him with the care he needs.
	So that it seems like it's a time commitment.
	You're his caretaker.
	Or B, leaving him in his infirm state so that you could do OnlyFans.
	Well, if we won the lotto, I would stay home.
	In the hypothetical he gave, there's nothing about winning the lottery.
	Well, the thing is, it's like, wouldn't it like if she quit, then how would you be able to afford it?
	You could afford to pay for care and then still work instead of failing and then like no one working and then all of a sudden the whole economy in the household crashes.
	She's gonna ask you a question.
	How much time does it take to like have an OnlyFans account?
	I'm putting you way, way more now.
	Could you not do like can we get an answer to the question though?
	I don't well I it's a hypothetical question.
	Not hypothetical.
	Okay.
	So so I'm not I'm I have no income coming in and I had the logical I'd have to do OF to support my household and to support him.
	So I would have to do OF.
	But if you could afford it to do both.
	Now if I could if I could afford it and there was an angle.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Here, I'll make it super simple.
	I'll make it super fucking simple.
	Oftentimes the state will provide benefits to a caretaker.
	This, let's assume for the sake of this hypothetical, the amount of the benefits you receive is enough to sustain your bare bones.
	You know, you can keep staying where you live.
	You can, you know, food, basic necessities that the state is providing you to be his caretaker through social services or whatever.
	Of course, I'm assuming you make way more money than this by doing OF and you enjoy doing OF.
	Yeah.
	Thus the question is: would you leave your husband so that you can continue making more money?
	Well, I wouldn't leave him.
	I mean, I would care for him.
	So if I have to do that.
	You quit doing OF.
	So if there was income coming in, I would say 24-7.
	I would care for him.
	I wouldn't leave him.
	And you would stop doing OF.
	Yeah.
	If that was the only choice that I had.
	Yeah.
	Name taken.
	I hope that's.
	As long as there's some form of money coming in so we can take care of him.
	I don't want him homeless on the street in medical necessity.
	I mean for a hummingbird.
	I've got a bright red object outside of the open door.
	Oh.
	Chloe.
	I could just literally just stand there.
	I'm not sure.
	All right.
	We got Lucas.
	Hey, dude, Lucas, thank you so much for the super chat.
	Pelagic.
	Thank you.
	Also, questions for the harlot of Babylon.
	Be honest, what does your thun?
	I was about to say son think about you turning into Priscilla.
	Would you want your son to marry a bottom feeder like you?
	Oh shit.
	Gross.
	We just threw up in our mouths, both of us.
	Well, my sons have no judgment.
	They're very, very supportive and they're like, mom, do you?
	If it makes you happy, do it.
	Right?
	So, and then what was the rest of it?
	So, I mean, my sons know everything I do.
	I just respect their boundaries and they're unbelievably supportive.
	But I've always talked with my children.
	I've always talked with my children.
	So we have a very open dialogue.
	And if my sons married a bottom feeder like me, well, I would support them 100% in the decisions that they would make.
	And I would know that that bottom feeder could support my son and his household significantly well.
	So I would definitely support that.
	All right.
	I'm sorry.
	I can get you a napkin.
	I'm going to get you in the super chat.
	Lucas, you're a legend.
	By the way, Lucas, is that Matthew Fox from Lost?
	Looks like the guy from Lost, the main protagonist.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Appreciate it.
	Hunter, thank you for the super chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
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	Oh, damn.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Maybe zoom it out one.
	Yeah, just one.
	Yeah, that's better.
	He looks kind of skinny, but if he was like a little bit beefier, then you.
	Let's assume he's beefy.
	It's just the face, though, I guess.
	He's cute.
	He's cute.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oof.
	Mine is so bad every single time.
	Absolutely not.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Like, I'm just too scared.
	One of those nerds in Cobra Kai that he, like, taught how to fight.
	That's what you look like in that pic.
	One of the dorks from the bottom.
	I'm so glad I'm a girl.
	Honestly, it's kind of a girl.
	Somebody did a.
	I saw this on Twitter.
	Somebody did a gender swap on Sabrina Carpenter.
	And like, basically, the idea here is if you take most women and you change them, like gender swap them into men, like most of them would be like incels.
	What does that mean?
	What do you mean?
	It means that.
	Well, yeah, because incels are kind of feminized men.
	No, it's not even that.
	It's just like inbred.
	It's basically like you, you know.
	Oh, wait, we have a react on the.
	Okay, so after this, we're going to do a react.
	I think I pulled it up.
	It's the TikTok, okay, Mary?
	I just want to see mine.
	We'll finish up the gender swaps, but yeah.
	Next.
	Me, I want me.
	Oh, daddy, energy.
	Yes, I'd do him.
	Oh, my God.
	He's exactly my type.
	Narcissist.
	All right, Brian.
	Come on.
	It was kind of funny.
	No, it's good.
	That's good.
	I was just taking the piss, mate.
	What about mate?
	All right, mate.
	Yeah, the one with the beard.
	Obviously.
	What's up?
	What's up with the curly hair?
	Wait, is that like how your son looks?
	No, no, not at all.
	Not even that.
	Why are they basically a little bit more?
	Wait, that looks like Sean Williams Scott.
	It's the hair.
	A little bit.
	The curly hair is crazy.
	Honestly, I like the highlights, so would you smash?
	Yeah, possibly.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Oh, my God.
	Did you say ooh?
	Yes.
	I mean, he looks like a prodigy.
	Let's be real here, though.
	That's you if you were a man.
	Yeah, he looks so disgusting.
	Why is he gross and disgusting?
	I don't know.
	What's wrong with him?
	He's got the same jaw structure and facial features.
	He gives me the creep.
	He looks weird.
	But that's, you're talking shit on yourself.
	I guess I am.
	You wouldn't date him then?
	No.
	Why?
	He's.
	I don't know.
	Board's kind of crooked.
	A crooked forehead.
	He's not that bad, actually.
	The bearded one.
	The bearded version is slightly better, I think.
	All right.
	He looks like a progressive version of it.
	But it's fine.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	All right.
	He looks like Dave Rubin.
	Scuffed Dave Rubin.
	Like, really fucked up Dave Rubin.
	Sorry.
	Like, Dave Rubin.
	Sorry, I need to make another Dave Rubin joke.
	Dave Rubin, if he wasn't gay and just had to deal with a really belligerent wife.
	So you look straight.
	Bitch, bearded one is so much better than the one in the middle, definitely.
	Dave Rubin, if he saw some shit.
	Hang on, hang on.
	He does look like he'd save the bird, though.
	That's a bird saver, right there.
	That's a bird-saving face right there.
	Yes.
	Look at that guy.
	That's the guy you want in the trenches with you.
	You know?
	Like, he'll just.
	No, that's a guy I wouldn't want in the trenches with me because he'd be too busy saving birds.
	But I'm not saving no birds.
	I saw that movie.
	What was that movie?
	The one the Vietnam film?
	Me Love You Long Time.
	What movie is that?
	Anybody?
	Chat.
	Oh, me, Solomon.
	Full metal jacket.
	Oh, full metal jacket.
	I was watching it the other day.
	He's like a, you say he's like a private pile?
	Yeah.
	He's like a private pile.
	Yeah.
	Get that fucking bird.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't think it's.
	Oh, look, he's making progress.
	I've got laser points.
	I've got laser points.
	Oh my gosh, we are doing it.
	Brian.
	Oh, my God.
	If you guys could be quiet.
	You guys could.
	Don't scoop.
	Yeah, if you guys start.
	He's so close.
	Wait.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, be quiet.
	Be quiet.
	Be quiet.
	Wait, shit.
	Nobody move.
	Nobody.
	Hold on.
	Nobody move.
	Don't say a word.
	Brian, drop him.
	Shut the fuck up, Chloe.
	Shut the fuck up, Chloe.
	Shut the fuck up.
	I'm going to get up very slowly.
	I'm going to fucking kill it.
	You're going to get the bird?
	Get it?
	Get the cat.
	This is all on camera.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Bye.
	Fly away, Bert.
	Fly away, Bert.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Be quiet.
	Get it.
	Is he okay?
	It's a hummingbird.
	No, no, no.
	Is he okay?
	He squished his head.
	I think you got it.
	He squished away.
	Finish it, Brian.
	Finish it.
	Oh, shit.
	There's blood.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait.
	Uh-oh.
	You killed him.
	Oh, shit.
	There's a napkin.
	Oh, my God, Brian.
	No.
	Brian.
	You should have just grabbed him.
	You are.
	Here.
	No, you should be fat.
	That was for.
	Holy shit.
	What did you do?
	Bro, I was trying to go.
	It's alive.
	Why are they doing this?
	Just let's try to get it.
	You let him breathe.
	Go.
	He's done.
	It's okay.
	No, he's fine.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Wait.
	That's my info paper.
	Oh, my God, Brian.
	Kill this.
	Hey, it moved.
	There was so much blood.
	It's alive.
	Close the fucking shit, bro.
	Close the shit.
	Close the fucking shit.
	Let him back in here.
	Can I fill this in?
	Close the shit.
	What the fuck?
	There was blood.
	Whatever.
	Fucking clean that shit.
	Can he fly?
	Okay, it got a little bit of a bruise, but it's alive.
	A bruise is bleeding to death.
	There was a little blood, I think I...
	Now it's going to get eaten by a falcon.
	Yeah.
	You know what's traumatic is, um, never mind.
	It's going to say something about your only fans.
	How the fuck do these women get spit roasted on camera but can't take a fucking bird?
	What the fuck is on me?
	What?
	oh wait that was a hot mic that was hey you know i mostly got it in the cup I should have taken maybe a bigger cup.
	I don't know.
	The bird's alive.
	There was a bit of blood.
	Be fad.
	Good precision.
	I did get it.
	To my credit, the bird's alive.
	We put it outside.
	What part of it was bleeding?
	I think I might have.
	Like it's wings?
	I might have pinched the wing a little bit.
	It was fashion.
	It's okay, Chloe.
	Chloe.
	Are you allowed to do anything about that in California?
	Birds die.
	Oh my gosh.
	Wait, let me just Google.
	Is there Standard Ground in California?
	Is there a law against like law against hummingbird?
	Yeah, you probably committed to it.
	He's got a felony on camera.
	And it's hold on camera cruelty.
	Uh-oh, Brian, what'd you do, Brian?
	What'd you do?
	Chloe's.
	Hold on, Sue.
	That wasn't a way.
	Anyway.
	No, I'm a little worried now.
	We need James Sexton here.
	Now, I don't know what it...
	Look, if a bird comes into your house...
	It's trespassing.
	You can get the fucking bird out of the house, right?
	Lucas, Lucas, are you in chat, bro?
	I might need them to turn it in.
	The peach is going to be off to you, Brian.
	It does say.
	My old hunter's adage.
	Okay?
	Here's what your mistake was.
	You didn't say it was coming right for me.
	If you said it's coming right for me, and then you had done that, it would have been fine.
	It was a hummingbird.
	Because we all know that animals are ruthless and evil bastards.
	We all saw it coming right out of me.
	We all saw him like Brian.
	I think I should maybe wash my hands.
	I'm going to wash my hands.
	I'll be right back.
	Wash your hands of the shame.
	There's blood on you.
	Did you try?
	Did you say?
	Andrew, you said that animals are evil.
	Is that what you just said?
	You said that.
	Yeah, I was making a joke.
	Okay, I was going to say, because that's crazy.
	I was like, don't play with me.
	Okay, guys.
	And like, that is not.
	Yeah, I mean, I just don't give a shit about a stupid bird.
	That's all.
	I just, I, like, don't care.
	I know, but Chloe's a sensitive soul on you.
	Princess, Chloe.
	Chloe, you want some chocolate milk?
	You need a little, you want some applesauce?
	That would make me feel better.
	I need some candy.
	I think you're adorable.
	It's got.
	Oh, wait, would he?
	She has trouble.
	Have you guys ever seen, have you ever seen the salt guns that are designed to kill flies and bugs and shit?
	We should have used them at the restaurant.
	Yeah, it's called like a bug assault.
	You pour the salt in the top and then he like he blasts the bug with it.
	I would have I found something out that if you use kosher salt, it's like buckshot.
	I would have definitely have tried that on the hummingbird.
	I think that would have worked.
	Look, I feared for my life.
	Right now.
	I feared for my life.
	Oh my god, the feather right at you.
	Behind you was plotting its next move.
	Well, it's not a good thing.
	I feared for my life.
	It was self-defense.
	So, Chloe, I have chocolate milk for you, and you get a little sippy straw with it.
	Okay?
	Pass it down.
	It's going to be okay, Chloe.
	It's going to be okay, Chloe.
	Clicker, where'd you want to hug?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	All right.
	Save the dolphins or whatever.
	Save the turtles.
	Save the turtles.
	Where were we?
	Sorry, chat.
	By the way, this has.
	There is a little blood lingering on the.
	Just a teeny bit of blood, I think.
	I cleaned most of it.
	Oh, you cleaned it up?
	I will auction off that poster to the highest bidder.
	Just kidding.
	Okay.
	We got some chats here.
	Do you want some applesauce too?
	Write you a mail.
	We're going to join the valades, Brian, and sell it.
	It was probably pretty easy to get the bird out of there after you snapped its wing in half, you inconsiderate jerk.
	You just literally just snapped its wing like it was nothing.
	I don't think we finished.
	How could you, Brian?
	Yeah, nigga, we will.
	I don't think we finished the mail theme.
	We're going to get back to it.
	You doing okay, Chloe?
	You doing.
	I'm still a little upset at you that you didn't just grab me with your hands.
	My fucking hands.
	That would be worse.
	Bro, I would.
	No, like.
	Oh, just like it wasn't, it wouldn't have flied away, just like this.
	He was just standing there.
	He clearly just brought you that, chat.
	Nope, I didn't see that shit.
	Um, look, Chloe would have been chat if you threw it off the balcony, too.
	I should have thrown it at Chloe.
	He just grabbed that shit, just chucked it out.
	Makes them fly.
	That's how Mama Bird makes him fly.
	You gotta throw it off the balcony.
	That's how it works.
	You need anything else, sweetheart?
	Do you need you need a little uh do we have applesauce?
	Can we get her some applesauce?
	We literally have applesauce.
	Yeah, in case one of our more sensitive guests has a moment.
	That's kind.
	Thank you.
	Okay, no applesauce.
	All right.
	I'm okay with my milk.
	All right.
	Well, you enjoy that.
	Okay, we got chats here.
	We got to get through.
	We have Pasty George.
	Oh, wait.
	Did I already do this one?
	If I were there, I would catch, cook, and eat it in the studio.
	Oh, you know what?
	We should have cooked it up for Chloe.
	Do a little dinner for her.
	Get her a little hummingbird dinner.
	Okay.
	That probably is illegal.
	Eat hummingbirds.
	All right, we have Hunter Wallace.
	The bird should start paying rent.
	Also, Anya, I just wanted to say that I think you're incredibly beautiful.
	Uh-oh.
	If I ever get the chance to meet you in person, I'd love to ask you on date.
	Hunter Wallace, we have a rule here at the Whatever podcast.
	If you're going to be a simp, you have to pay the sim tax.
	You have to send in another message as a tribute to the whatever podcast in the form of a sim tax.
	So get to it.
	Chop, chop.
	Chef Dill Pickles.
	Why did Chair 3 say inbred as a response to incel?
	Because I don't know what it means.
	I'm sorry.
	Is it because inbreeding was the last plague to hit our country before lack of immigration policies plagued it?
	I just didn't know what it meant.
	Sorry.
	God damn, that was my cup, too.
	What does incel mean?
	Can someone?
	I should have got the voluntarily or involuntarily celibate.
	Involuntarily celibate.
	Oh, God, I really, really, really got that one wrong.
	So, Chloe, have you ever dated a guy who committed any knife crimes?
	Or sorry, not Chloe.
	Belle Annabelle.
	Me?
	Yes, have you dated any guy?
	Oh, because of England.
	Because of London, that whole thing.
	I was once in the pub and I saw a guy get a knife out of his pocket and like kind of, but then the situation was.
	Can you show us his technique?
	It was like it wasn't even a good knife.
	It was like more like a shaft that you get from prison.
	Yeah, and he was, but he had it under, like so the guy couldn't see.
	It was a bit of a brawl.
	And he just had it and then was like.
	Show me what he was doing.
	I'm trying.
	Do it to Chloe.
	I couldn't.
	I couldn't do it to darling Chloe.
	It was like the guy couldn't see the knife because he took it out of his pocket and he was like hiding.
	But was it like a rapid?
	He didn't do it.
	He didn't do it.
	Oh, he just had it out.
	He had it out secretly in case it escalated.
	So like a defense of use?
	Yeah.
	He had it out.
	Yeah, he had it out.
	But other than that, no knife crime.
	Kat says L simp.
	W cat.
	Thank you for the memberships earlier, by the way.
	Thank you, Kat.
	She says L simp.
	That's too.
	Hunter, still waiting for the sim tax, Hunter.
	Don't be.
	You got to pay it.
	You got to pay the simple tax.
	All right.
	You can pay it at my link.
	Chef Dill Pickles.
	Brian committed murder tonight.
	Clip it and ship it, boys.
	It's alive, he says, for now.
	How much blood do birds hold in them?
	That was a lot.
	Hummingbirds?
	Hummingbirds.
	They don't have a lot.
	They don't have a lot, Brian.
	Their wings are their main thing.
	And you can't.
	Chat flew away, so I feel like if he could fly, right?
	He would have been like, if he couldn't fly.
	He did fly.
	Did he really fly away?
	Okay, I don't know how it goes.
	But he might bleed out.
	Hopefully not, though.
	It's wing.
	The wing got pinched.
	Maybe it like got a dude.
	Because they don't have like doctors or anything.
	I just want to know.
	Like, they can't go to the hummingbird doctor.
	Like, he's going to have to deal with that now, huh?
	Maybe he's had to do it.
	Hopefully, he doesn't bleed out.
	I don't know if he has a heart attack in the studio and fallen over dead, that the hunting bird would have eaten your eyeballs and not given a shit.
	I just want to point that out.
	I think that they're like aggressive.
	Where did you get that information?
	I don't think that hummingbirds are aggressive at all.
	I would say they're aggressive.
	I feel like grandma.
	I'm just saying animals don't care.
	I'm just making the point that animals don't care about you.
	They don't care.
	They don't give a fuck.
	Certain animals do care.
	I feel like.
	No, they don't care.
	Did you ask?
	That's why women always pick the bear in the woods because they think that bears care and shit.
	They answer from the bottom.
	My animals definitely care about you.
	They think that it's like Baloo from Disney.
	That they're going to start dancing in the forest and start fucking singing about bear necessities and shit.
	They anthropomorphize these wild ass animals that would rip them limb from limb and they start eating you at the groin up because that's the fattiest part.
	They really like smart.
	My animals definitely care about me though.
	That's the thing, right?
	Speaking of fucking animals.
	You have domesticated.
	Oh my god, it's real for a second.
	Thousands of people.
	I'm sorry, Razz, you got that wrong?
	Is it a ferret?
	It's a weasel.
	It's a fucking weasel.
	What's the difference between weasels?
	Speaking of ferret.
	It's like fucking animals.
	Fucking weasel.
	Warren, the fucking weasel.
	Warren Weasel Smith.
	Yeah.
	What's the difference between weasels and ferrets?
	Does anyone know?
	I think we're going to be able to clear this up.
	Okay, you want me to, are we going to, am I going to host it or what do you think?
	Yeah, I think we're going to get this all cleared up.
	So you know, Warren out there, I had a nice DM exchange with him.
	You know what I mean?
	He said he's willing to have the conversation with us, so I say we just have the conversation.
	Before we make the accusations of him being a weasel or backbiter, I'm going to give him every benefit of the doubt first.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	That's great.
	I'll save this for next week.
	But Warren, if you're watching this, I don't just have one.
	Okay?
	Here, Felicity, put that shit on.
	Warren?
	I don't just have two weasels.
	I am so happy.
	Why do you have so many weasels?
	I have three.
	Three weasels.
	All right, Warren.
	Don't let this be your legacy.
	Okay, Warren?
	You see the three weasels?
	Listen, Warren Smith, Secret Scholar Society.
	I'm just saying, Warren.
	You got a good thing going on, and I would hate to see something happen to it.
	Be sad.
	Because of weasels.
	Because of weasels.
	And I got some fucking weasels right here, okay?
	So I'm just saying, Warren.
	I'm just saying.
	You better watch out.
	No, it's all good.
	Me and him, we talked.
	It's not all good.
	Oh, he came for you too?
	I have some beef with him.
	Oh, for a Warren.
	Felicity here has some fucking beef with you, too.
	Okay.
	You need to apologize to my girl over here, Felicity.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	I got the weasels, though.
	I got the weasel.
	Weasel out.
	All right.
	Perfect.
	That was so perfect.
	Warren, you saw what I did to that bird?
	Don't fuck with me, okay?
	Okay, Warren.
	Hey, no, I'm not going to make.
	I'm not going to say that.
	I'm just saying.
	I'd be nervous.
	That hummingbird.
	It ain't humming tonight.
	Oh, gosh.
	It ain't humming.
	That's terrible.
	It's bumming on the.
	Okay, anyways, whatever.
	All right.
	No.
	Just kidding.
	I'm Warren.
	It's all jokes.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	All right, Pasty George.
	Brian captures a bird.
	Oh.
	Brian captures a bird, says there is blood, and the women think it is dead and freak out.
	Yes, LMFAO.
	Yeah, they thought I killed it.
	They were, oh my god.
	Oh no.
	Also, I don't actually see any blood.
	There was.
	I feel like there was a lot of blood.
	There was a pretty decent amount of blood.
	I didn't see it on the windows, like they cleaned it up.
	Oh, they cleaned it on it.
	It was all in the cupboard.
	There was.
	Yeah, it was in the cup and on the paper.
	There was a little bit of blood.
	Okay, we have Pasty George, chair two.
	Don't worry, you can take comfort in knowing that the bird flew away and later died somewhere outside lol.
	Take a sip of your chocolate milk.
	I drank it all.
	Okay.
	Oh.
	Nice.
	All right.
	You know, I feel like we need a champagne pop for that effort, you know?
	Definitely.
	Is the creator's ink guy?
	Is he watching?
	Who owns that?
	Is it a dude or what?
	Is it like a group of people?
	It's a guide.
	But he's probably not watching anything.
	I think it is Andy.
	He's too big for me.
	Yeah, he's just.
	You know, I saved you, Chloe.
	One of he has you signed to his company.
	And if I had not intervened, that bird was coming for you.
	I think he owes me a thank you for having saved you from the bird and its corresponding diseases.
	So I would like him to a little, a little compensation.
	No, no, he doesn't have to pay me, but a thank you would be nice.
	You know, just saying.
	What's his name?
	Bart?
	Andy.
	Is it top secret?
	Oh, or the bird or the creator's income?
	Andy.
	I think it's Andy.
	All right, Andy.
	Look.
	Go, Andy.
	She protected your appetite.
	An auditious and feral bird.
	Okay.
	Moving on.
	Moving on.
	Oh, we have the rest of the photos to get to.
	Let's do that.
	Let's do that.
	Oh, right.
	You said you.
	You said you.
	Yes.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Mine looks so much older than I am.
	Oh, my gosh, dog.
	That looks like.
	Oh, he's alright.
	That does look like now.
	That looks like my son.
	Low-key, that does look like my brother.
	I'm going to say path.
	No wonder.
	Okay, now I have.
	Okay.
	All right, next.
	I don't even want to want to say mine.
	Oh, God.
	You actually look good.
	Like, look at that hair.
	I think you look good.
	Would you date?
	I like him.
	I'm not sure.
	I like him.
	He's hot.
	If you were single.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Next.
	She said not my type.
	Hey, a little better than normal.
	Kind of like a bone sweet boy, dude.
	It's like Aaron.
	Very young looking.
	I mean, like, fly.
	He looks good with the beard.
	Would you date him?
	No.
	All right, next.
	Okay.
	Wait, what?
	Who was that?
	Is that you as a girl?
	Oh, yeah.
	The third one is good.
	Oh, my God.
	What's that actress?
	You actually look great.
	I would date.
	Sure, I would date them all.
	Is it long-haired?
	Shannon Doherty?
	The long-haired.
	I don't know what your names, but it looks like Fantasy.
	That's her name, Doherty.
	Look at that picture.
	It's just so good, you know?
	Like, it's like a professional, like the lighting and everything.
	Like, I feel like that definitely changes it.
	Probably.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	They both look good, though.
	Oh, gosh.
	Young Andrew.
	Oh, I don't see it.
	It's like his wife.
	That's a new one, right?
	Andrew, would you date your girl version?
	Is that kind of like Rachel with dark hair a little bit on the right?
	A little bit.
	It looks like Rachel.
	Doesn't look anything like Rachel.
	You know what's interesting, Andrew?
	You guys, I don't know if it's your mannerisms that are kind of similar in some ways.
	You guys kind of look a little bit alike.
	Like the masculine-feminine version.
	But maybe I feel like what I mean.
	When people are with each other for a long period of time, they start to mimic each other's mannerisms.
	That does happen.
	That's true.
	That's probably what it is.
	It's true.
	That's probably what it is.
	Like, for instance, she mimics my debate mannerisms, and I mimic the she can't open a jar mannerism.
	So see, sometimes we all have to kind of just mimic each other a little bit.
	No, we can't bring out that.
	No, that's depressing.
	We can't bring out.
	That was for the birds.
	She's for the birds.
	let's see here we are going to get into uh oh crystal did you have any other disagreements I don't think so.
	What you got?
	You got some smoke, Crystal.
	Come on.
	I don't.
	Bring the smoke, Crystal.
	You know it's my aunt's name.
	So, okay, let's go back to sociology.
	Oh, my God, my aunt's name.
	Or should we not?
	I feel like I kind of beat that.
	That was kind of beating a dead horse a little bit.
	Let's see.
	You said, Crystal, you said you bailed your ex out of jail because he said he'd pay you back after you did.
	Hang on, Brian.
	How come nobody commented on how hot young female version of Andrew was?
	Nobody, really?
	Daddy, she was fine.
	I mean, wasn't that picture?
	She was pretty flying.
	She was pretty fly.
	Can't lie.
	Yeah, she was pretty.
	She freaking love, right?
	Not a one of you.
	Not a one of you.
	Sorry.
	So disappointing.
	It's because it looks like your wife.
	We're still stuck on the bird.
	We're still grieving Bart, the bird.
	...the largest narcissist on the internet, according to all the sociologists.
	You know, I couldn't help but not let it pass by.
	That young female version of Andrew is just really good looking.
	She was a stomach 10 out of 10.
	Is that what you want to hear, darling?
	Actually, maybe, yes, grab and then take that off the table.
	Okay, we are going to do, we need to react to this because this is going somewhat viral on TikTok.
	Can you pull up the TikTok, Mary?
	And then we'll go full screen with it.
	And then there's another video I think I pulled up two.
	We'll do that one.
	Let's just do that one first, then the TikTok.
	Do you have the other video?
	But not the TikTok, the other video?
	Probably five more seconds.
	Dude, my legs.
	Luke.
	From the C?
	Do you have it?
	There's another video in the tab.
	It should be like the last or second to last.
	You're going to have to close out all that other crap, though.
	Yeah.
	We have a video of yours that we're going to react to super quick.
	I just thought it was funny.
	Mine?
	Yep.
	Go ahead.
	Play it.
	I'm nervous.
	Window tab is fun.
	I'm so nervous.
	Window tab is fun.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, no, not nervous.
	So, wait.
	When God get you for being a hoe, I thought it was funny.
	Go ahead, play it.
	Oh, wait, pause.
	Mute the audio, please.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, my God.
	This is crazy.
	All right, so there's music.
	She's dancing.
	When God gets you for being a hoe, and then you fucking eat shit.
	Oh, my goodness.
	One more time from the fall.
	Play it again.
	Go, go, go, go.
	Play it again.
	Come on.
	I can't believe I did that.
	Honestly, the dance and dance.
	I guess I didn't put it up perfectly.
	I didn't put it up right.
	And then, oh my goodness.
	Should I hit the fan?
	You seen that?
	I think I hit it.
	Damn, dude.
	Andrew's loving that shit.
	Did you do it on purpose?
	I did.
	No, that was like that was.
	One more time.
	All right.
	Let's get to the bottom off.
	Like, I did it wrong.
	Like, I didn't put it up correctly, I guess.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Go, go, go, play, hit play.
	Come on.
	Mute the audio.
	God damn.
	When God gets you for being a hoe.
	Bro, I literally ate shit.
	Oh, that shit hurt.
	That shit hurt.
	I literally, I almost broke a table.
	Your head.
	She's like, Mom, Mom, look at this video.
	Should I post it?
	And I'm like, yeah.
	Honestly, my friend wrote the caption because her parents, like that girl, her parents are bishops.
	So she was like, this is going to be hilarious.
	And she wrote the caption.
	Like, using this for me.
	Thank you.
	I'm just worried about your head.
	No, honestly, it hurt.
	There was a big glass table, too, that was there.
	And I literally, like, I was this far from breaking the whole table.
	Like, it was actually terrible.
	Oh, my God.
	So, okay, Mary, here's what you're going to do.
	This always reminds me of, I have a famous saying.
	It's what I call a Wilsonism.
	It's come from my family tree from the year 1000 to right now.
	Being stupid hurts.
	Yeah.
	That is, it's literally a family motto.
	Being stupid hurts.
	It definitely hurt.
	Yeah, it definitely hurts.
	All right.
	I'm not stupid, but there was a stupid mistake.
	It's just on our profile, you said?
	Yeah.
	Okay, it's the one with 1.3 million views.
	Just click that and then get it full screen.
	While you're doing that, we have Pasty George.
	Hold up.
	Pause.
	Just pause it or mute the audio.
	Enough with the stupid bird.
	I find it ironic that women would freak out over a teeny bird or even a ladybug, but stay silent about abortion, praise it as a woman's right.
	Fucking stupid.
	Fucking stupid.
	Fucking fucking stupid.
	My fucking gosh.
	What's like a go-to scouse word?
	It's hard.
	All right there.
	How are you doing?
	I'm from Liverpool.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	That's like the best I can do, guys.
	Hang on.
	How did you?
	How did you throw the hack in there?
	You threw the hack.
	It's scouls.
	It's scouse.
	Scouser.
	Liverpool.
	You know what I've seen?
	Got some chips and a butty.
	That's the best.
	Can you understand the people who are from like the weird places of Scotland that have a really thick accent?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, no.
	Glasgow, people from Glasgow, they really are really hard to understand.
	But people from Edinburgh are easier to understand for sure.
	It's Tuesday in it.
	It's Tuesday.
	And shoes.
	It's Tuesday in it.
	No, they don't talk like that.
	Right?
	They're like, I'm the shoes all day.
	And you're like, what the fuck did you just say?
	What did you just say?
	I know.
	England's such a fucking weird.
	It's Tuesday in it.
	Okay, all right.
	Good talk.
	You can drive one hour and there'll be a completely different accent.
	It's crazy.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	Love it.
	Okay, let's see here.
	Oh, the video.
	Let's do the video.
	Oh, we have a lot of supers too.
	Is it ready?
	Is it full screen?
	You have to hit the three dots, and you got it?
	Refresh.
	Well, it's not normal.
	What do you mean?
	Usually it says full screen.
	It's not the option.
	Are you able to go F11 on the page?
	Is it full screen?
	Yeah.
	Okay, just pull it up.
	Show me what you see.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, that's fine.
	All right, guys, we're gonna react to this.
	This is going kind of viral.
	So, we're gonna get everybody put on video tab, please.
	All right, started from the very beginning.
	It's ahead.
	Pause, Start it from the very beginning.
	So, as we're all very much aware, we are living through a chopped man epidemic, and there's a big shortage of baddies.
	It's gone so bad to the point that, like, if I see an attractive man, it genuinely makes my day.
	I was walking on the sidewalk earlier, and I saw a cute guy in his car, so I waved to him, and he smiled back at me, and obviously he drove away after that.
	But I was like, oh my god, a cute guy?
	This was at 6:50 p.m.
	It's 7:17, and I'm still like, oh, oh my god.
	And I feel like this is gonna power me through my evening.
	Like, wow, I actually saw an attractive man today.
	Like, diamond in the rough, needle in the haystack.
	Seriously.
	So, all right, pause it.
	Okay, so for those of you who don't know, maybe in the audience, chopped means ugly.
	So, she's saying there's essentially a when she says a chopped man epidemic, she's saying there's an ugly man epidemic.
	Uh, do you guys just curious, do you guys agree?
	I disagree.
	I feel like what and just one final addition to this.
	I've heard a lot of criticisms from women that they think there's way more physically attractive women than there are men.
	You'll see pretty women all the time, but then you'll like rarely see, this is what I've heard a lot of women say, you'll rarely see like good-looking or attractive guys.
	Uh, so why don't we, yeah, we'll start with you since you wanted to go first.
	I feel like I disagree.
	I feel like there's like the like, you know, women, like, not that, like, this is like the difference, but you know, like a woman can like get ready and do all this stuff.
	Like, I feel like for guys, there's not really much that they can do to like enhance anything.
	So, I feel like to say that, it's not really fair because like that's just like naturally what they look like and stuff.
	But I feel like there's a lot of attractive men.
	I feel like there's been more attractive men than there's been, like, not, like, I feel like more because, like, not because of Instagram specifically, but like, there's more attractive men than there was, like, before, because actually, people are starting to care about like what they look like and stuff, you know.
	As for back then, like, people didn't really care about looks at all, as for what I know of.
	But I've got an idea.
	Um, I think that like girls can get boob jobs, lip filler, like, you know, hair extensions.
	And I think, obviously, I mean, men can get Botox and stuff as well, but it's not as commonly done as women.
	So there's probably gonna be more aesthetically pleasing women than men for that reason, maybe?
	Yeah, I agree.
	Because we can, like, there's more things we can do.
	We can do we can improve ourselves.
	We've got makeup.
	We have hair, extensions, makeup.
	Yeah, we can trick, we can trick people into thinking we're pretty when we're not.
	And men can't really do that.
	I think it's also regional.
	So, like, for example, I've been in LA for, I think, two days.
	And honestly, I haven't like seen one guy that I'm like, oh, he's like really attractive.
	I think it's also just my type.
	Back home in Florida, it's full of cowboys and actually manly men, like guys with not even muscle, but just like some fat on them.
	Every man that I've seen here is very feminized or just gay.
	And I don't know, just not really, I don't know.
	Maybe it's just LA, but I think it's regional.
	If you stick in LA, yeah, you're not gonna see a lot of men that.
	Not as masculine the men.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And California, there isn't really that many.
	Well, not Cali all together, but LA specifically, there is more feminine men, that's for sure.
	Because it's more like a fashion state, I feel like.
	Like, it's a lot more like fashion and stuff like that.
	So they kind of like tend to like be a little bit more like pretty boys, but no, I'm telling like country bars back home.
	Like, yeah, you walk in and like in Texas.
	Yeah.
	Texas beautiful.
	Yeah, I see some sexy guys.
	We experienced that when we went to Texas.
	And we're like, whoa.
	It is a whole different ballgame, that's for sure.
	LA is green juice.
	Texas is steak.
	Yeah.
	Yummy.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, I totally agree with you.
	It's regional word.
	Sorry, one sec, guys.
	I wanted to actually pull it back up because the comments were kind of interesting.
	All right.
	So.
	So, oh, I wanted to ask the panel going around the table.
	So she's saying she doesn't see attractive men, chopped man epidemic.
	Can we also just point out that that chick is fucking ugly?
	Can I just point out real quick that that is a fucking hideous woman who's saying this?
	Like, just an objectively fucking ugly woman.
	I just saying.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I was going to say that in a more polite way, but basically, yeah.
	She looks like she's been picking her face off for the last two years, man.
	I don't know what the hell she's doing.
	I did want to.
	I'm just a foul, hideous-looking woman.
	Oh, my God.
	He said, no.
	I was about to ask, though, the panel, do you guys, like, do you think she's beautiful?
	He's like, I'm not sugarcoating nothing.
	I don't think that she's a stunning 10 out of 10, but I don't think she's really, really, really ugly.
	I don't think she, I don't think she's ugly.
	I don't think she's ugly, but hang on, bullshit.
	I'm calling bullshit.
	Pull it back up.
	I think average looking, average.
	Oh, come on, Bob.
	Okay, baby, wait.
	Showing me the video again.
	Showing me again.
	Oh, she was so.
	Pull it up.
	Pull it up.
	But then just play the video.
	Just go ahead and play it.
	So, as we're all very much aware of the video.
	Oh, my God.
	This chick's face is busted.
	That's so fucked up.
	You know it's true.
	Am I lying, though?
	Am I lying, or is that chick's face busted as fuck?
	I feel like she doesn't really have a place to be really like talking about specifics.
	But I feel like, you know, beauty isn't always about how you look.
	Beauty is not always about how you look.
	It's about your personality.
	But I guess the way she's active.
	Let's pull it back up, though, really quick.
	I wanted to read some of the comments on this.
	So as we're all right, scroll down.
	Damn, seems like you've upset the chopped men.
	17,000 likes.
	They're mad at you because you're right.
	Danny, ignore the positive and scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Oh, this man hates us to stop.
	Call this man-on-man hate house to stop.
	That's hilarious.
	Down, down, down.
	There's some interesting photos.
	Scroll down, scroll down.
	No one's saying that she's average.
	Scroll down, scroll down.
	Come on, this chick is a two-bagger, at least.
	Scroll down.
	What is a two-bagger?
	What does that mean when you put it on your chest?
	I'm trying to find it.
	Keep going.
	They gotta put it on the bag over their head.
	No one.
	People were posting like a bunch of fucking videos.
	Maybe she deleted it.
	Wait, keep going.
	Just keep going, though.
	Maybe it'll pop up.
	Damn, she did this dirty because they were all kinds of funny photos on like photo comments.
	That must have been very time consuming.
	It might be.
	Maybe it was just on mobile that I people were like making all these funny edits.
	Yeah.
	Who does she think she is speaking about men like that?
	When she's I think she has a lot of videos like that on her channel.
	Is that like her like brand?
	Like she's like trying to like maybe she's doing it for um what's it called to trigger people so that she gets more rage bait.
	Of course.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sure that that's exactly what she thought.
	She was like, what can me, a hideous wilderbee, to trigger as many men as I possibly can.
	Me, a busted ass-looking, well-below average, hideous woman.
	What can I do to trigger as many men as possible?
	And so that's what she did.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	There's a lot.
	You know, there's a lot of people coming to her defense, though.
	In fact, you know, maybe we'll pull up my Twitter.
	Also, hideous wilderbeest.
	TikTok is kind of like an eye chain.
	Oh, TikTok is the most.
	It's terrible.
	And she's already funny.
	I find Facebook the worst.
	Do you have my Twitter?
	No, TikTok is the worst.
	You know why?
	You know why TikTok's the worst?
	Why?
	Because most of the user base, it's like 60 or 70%.
	I think it's 70 plus percent, actually, is women.
	And so when you're on TikTok, especially when you're on the lives, you're in the mind of a woman.
	And so it's just absolute carnage and chaos and fucking madness and stupidity all the time.
	That's why.
	That's why TikTok is fucking horrible.
	Horrible.
	I had no idea that it was mostly women.
	Oh, yeah.
	It makes so much sense.
	That's why that, well, I mean, obviously the comments were deleted, but it makes sense because guys would be like saying what you're saying, right?
	Yeah, that's why when they were like, they're going to delete TikTok, I was like, no, they're not going to delete TikTok.
	There'll be, you know, 200,000 dumbass women tomorrow with signs who'll be like, don't delete my TikTok.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	That would be awesome.
	And before that.
	And guess what?
	I was 100% right.
	Hundreds of thousands of whiny ass women who were like, no, we have to have the Chinese invade us and fucking take over our social media because otherwise I can't post fish lip selfies in my musty fucking face.
	That's literally what happened.
	And because, and before that, they had like musically, they had Vine.
	Like, they were going to make another one too.
	Like, it was going to be like there was Musically, Vine, and then there was TikTok.
	So they were going to make another one no matter what.
	Like, they were going to just pull up my Twitter.
	No, did you send the link?
	That is like.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Scroll down.
	All right.
	Scroll down.
	I'm going to tell you there were two girls.
	We're only going to watch part of it.
	Do the.
	Wait.
	Stop there.
	The one with the nose ring?
	Oh, my God.
	Who's that?
	Oh, God.
	Why are you doing that?
	Click it.
	Pause it.
	Terrible.
	All right.
	Video tab.
	I don't know why you guys stay.
	You guys are coping so hard.
	Just take one look.
	You see the same thing, I see.
	Go ahead.
	Play it.
	This thing about the war going on against the chopped man epidemic girl is that she's actually quite beautiful.
	Hello.
	Actually, quite beautiful.
	Like, actually, dare I say, more than conventionally attractive.
	But you guys are brainwashing.
	And then X out of that.
	What?
	That's good to see.
	And then go to the other video.
	Go to the other video, the one with the yellow shirt.
	I'm in.
	You have it?
	I do.
	Okay.
	Video tab?
	Oh, Lord.
	Play it.
	The war on the side of the chop man epidemic girl.
	She's right.
	Y'all are ugly.
	You don't put effort into your appearances.
	You don't have hobbies.
	And you expect women to want you.
	And you're going to screenshot pictures of me and her while she's talking in an effort to make her feel ugly.
	When in reality, you would cry of happiness if me or her or any of the women in her comment section touched you with a 10-foot pole.
	Why?
	Who's your aversion?
	Pause it forward.
	Just pause it.
	Wow.
	This isn't real.
	This is a shit.
	This isn't baby.
	I know what this phenomenon is called.
	What happens is when one ugly chick sees another ugly chick, they instantly compare.
	And the one ugly chick's like, I'm hotter than her.
	So if I'm friends with her and I'm out hanging out with her, I'll look pretty in comparison to this ugly brock.
	And so I actually see this happen all the time.
	That's why you see clicks of really pretty women together, and then you see clicks of really fucking ugly women together, where they're all like fat and they're hideous and shit like that.
	It's literally, look, I'm sorry, but all the time, this is what I see: clicks of really good-looking chicks, and then clicks of really fucking ugly chicks.
	That's what I see all the time.
	There must be something going on there.
	It's rage bait.
	Is that what it's called?
	What do you consider?
	We have Pasty George.
	Brian, why are you showing us videos of crackheads?
	That is a good question.
	Good question.
	A really quick question, not related to this.
	Just is anybody here Christian?
	Just curious?
	Kind of.
	You?
	What denomination?
	I would say Orthodox.
	You would say Orthodox.
	Okay, what about you?
	Lutheran.
	Sorry, what?
	Lutheran.
	Lutheran.
	And then.
	I'm not really sure.
	I went to Catholic.
	I'm going to skip the mic to the edge of the table.
	Sorry, sorry.
	I went to a Catholic boarding school, but I'm not Catholic.
	I'm just.
	You just touched it.
	Sorry.
	Scoot it to the edge of the table.
	There you go.
	I'm just kind of my own Christian.
	I don't really know.
	I just.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have Pasty George.
	To be honest, the woman on the video who said that men today are chopped, she looks like an indigenous crackhead.
	Okay.
	You had to add a qualifier there.
	She's not just a crackhead or looks like one.
	She's an indigenous crackhead.
	It looks like she eats bathead soup.
	Andrew, what would you consider, like, since you're saying that that was ugly?
	Like, what would you consider pretty?
	Because you say you see pretty girls and then you see ugly girls.
	Like, what would you say, like, your level of pretty would be?
	I don't think that attractiveness is nearly as subjective as women like to cope about, right?
	Yeah.
	The truth is, is that it seems like angular features with hourglass shapes, things like this, are universally accepted as being highly attractive.
	And here's why.
	Don't do that.
	Don't do that.
	The reason.
	Stop doing that.
	It's gross.
	But the point is, the reason for this is just think of it from a reproductive standpoint.
	There has to be something that signals inside of men's brains and inside of women's brains to reproduce.
	Yeah.
	It has to be something, right?
	So there has to be some features which are universal that women have.
	They don't look sickly.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Okay, great.
	We got that out of the way.
	But what else?
	They like take care of themselves.
	Yeah, they have an hourglass type feature.
	Yeah.
	Whiter hips, robust, go to the gym, things like this.
	That's all signaling health and reproduction.
	That's what men are going to be attracted to.
	Yeah.
	Because sex ultimately is about reproduction, right?
	So of course, men are going to be attracted to youthful women with angular features, hourglass shapes, things like this.
	Yeah, like people that take care of themselves and things like that.
	Like they actually care about their appearance and nothing.
	Just taking care of yourself.
	But also, there is a genetic element where there are some women who are born fucking ugly and there's some men who are just born fucking ugly.
	And that's the case.
	That is the truth.
	Objective truth.
	Not sugar-coated with no bullshit.
	There's some people in this world who are fucking ugly.
	But at least women can use.
	You can pretend that that's not the case.
	You can pretend it's not the kids.
	But at least women can use makeup and stuff like that, you know, and men can't.
	So it's kind of an unfair advantage.
	Well, it's not just that.
	I mean, the amount of fakeness of women, I would actually counter and say, I think that there's probably better looking men than there are women in the world.
	The truth is, is that if I go back and I just look at what women looked like in the 1800s when all of the filters weren't there, no breast implants, right?
	None of this shit.
	The rigors of hard living.
	Oh my God.
	They are.
	You wouldn't want to see it, right?
	Go look for yourself.
	Yeah, I feel looked about the same as they do now.
	I feel like back then, too, like food and stuff was different.
	So it's like, I feel like a lot of times a lot of things are more processed nowadays.
	I feel like, because back then, like, people would eat the same stuff and do the same things a lot of the times.
	But they've changed a lot of that stuff.
	So, I feel like it's harder to keep that type of body, you know, like because everyone, if you look back in like the 50s, like everybody did have hourglass glass shapes.
	And I feel like that does have a lot to do with the food and stuff.
	Like nowadays, like the processed stuff.
	That's the mini skirt was in the 60s because they did 60s and 50s.
	Yeah.
	Smoking is an appetite suppressant.
	And you didn't see like women smoked.
	All women smoked.
	Once upon a time, almost every woman in the United States was smoking.
	And almost every man was smoking.
	It was prescribed by doctors to smoke for stress, and it was an appetite curbing.
	That's what it did.
	So are you saying like smoking is what helped people keep the hourglass shape?
	It's one reason, yeah.
	Keep skinny.
	Yeah.
	And that's why people like, yeah, like vaping and stuff.
	Like when you stop vaping, you like turn to something else.
	Like, and then they people like start doing like, well, like certain people, like if you stop vaping, like they'll want to eat more, then they'll gain weight and stuff like that.
	And I could see why, because it's still, it's the nicotine that suppresses it.
	Yeah.
	Well, it wasn't just that.
	You didn't have fast food.
	You didn't have any of that stuff.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Also, the reason why the mini skirt was so popular in the 60s was because we didn't have as much, but we weren't as we were malnourished.
	Yeah.
	So we, you know, women were skinnier.
	So that's why we could pull off mini skirts.
	Very malnourished in the 60s.
	No.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Well, malnourished, but the opposite, right?
	Okay.
	Like we were much better quality food.
	Well, maybe, but I mean, obesity levels now are much, much, much higher than in the 60s.
	Also, you mean for men?
	Yeah.
	Sorry?
	You mean for men?
	The tea levels are lower now than they were in the 60s.
	Really?
	Significantly.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, the tea levels in men have been dropping off since the early 1900s like a rock.
	Ah, fascinating.
	Thanks for the question.
	Yeah, there's a correlation of there's a massive combination of factors that goes into it, but it's a mixture of plastics, diet, bad genetics.
	I mean, there's a whole host of issues speculated as to why.
	But yeah, the testosterone levels has drastically decreased in men, almost globally, by the way.
	Oh, that makes sense.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have Josh Brooks, British accent at Beard Rayleigh.
	Is coming for it, yeah.
	Huma wuzo kukinuta.
	Please give me your best British accent and say this phrase.
	Thank you, dude.
	I don't understand what you're up to, Josh Brooks.
	Is this I'm not sure?
	I'm not sure about this.
	Yeah.
	That's an interesting one.
	Like, it could have just sounds really good.
	I should have used a different paper.
	That's annoying.
	Okay.
	One sec, guys.
	We're going to get into the questionnaire here, I think.
	Actually, you know what?
	We're going to.
	Oh.
	I'm sorry.
	Did you?
	Did I?
	Maybe I missed this.
	Did you say obesity or testosterone?
	I'm sorry.
	Did you say obesity?
	Who?
	Me.
	New tear three.
	Yeah.
	I said, I thought that back in the 60s, people had more of a healthy body.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, no.
	You're right.
	That's what I was saying.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, correct.
	I'm sorry.
	I think maybe I missed her short.
	That's why I got so confused.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no.
	You're good.
	Somebody corrected me.
	They were like, no, no, no, she was talking about obesity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but I guess I heard it wrong.
	So my apologies there.
	I was like, oh my God.
	I've got it completely wrong.
	No, no, no.
	No, you had it completely right.
	That is the case.
	That in the 40s, 50s, 60s, obesity was not an epidemic like it is.
	Right.
	Okay, cool.
	Thank you for clarifying.
	What are the p what are the red blue pills?
	Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
	From it's a reference to the film The Matrix?
	Yeah, I know.
	I just didn't know if it was for that specifically or something.
	Yeah, it's just like a little pro to the film.
	Okay, so that's pretty cool.
	And I didn't even know that they made those.
	Oh my god, pull this up.
	Oh my god, yeah, there's fucking.
	Okay, I'm just gonna do Anya your questionnaire because it's all scuffed.
	The bloody one.
	You said that men should have the same standard body count as the women they're dating.
	Yeah, so the question was if I disagreed with anything that's kind of talked about on the show.
	I feel like a lot of times in the red pill community, a lot of guys want women to have a low body count, which I agree with, but then they'll have a very different standard for themselves, which, to be fair, I think body count is different for men and women.
	I think men can have a higher body count than women and still with it working out.
	But I think if you're a man who has a body count of 100 and you turn down a girl who's perfect but she has a body count of 15, just because you're against the body count issue, you have nowhere, you have no room to talk.
	So you think it's...
	Sorry.
	Sorry, Brian, go ahead.
	I mean, do you think it's hypocritical?
	You think it's unfair?
	What?
	I think it's the same reason that you want a woman to have a lower body count, you'd kind of want the man to have a lower body count.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's just, it's kind of hypocritical, which, again, I still state that it's different for men and women.
	Right, but you would agree.
	Well, I don't know if you would agree with me, but do you think that there are certain things that women want that they don't possess themselves?
	Yes.
	Okay, like, would it be hypocritical, for example, for a broke woman to have a preference or be attracted to like a really rich guy?
	I think if she, yeah, I think it would be strange for a woman, it would be really rich of her to be like, oh, I only go for millionaires as she is making no money.
	I don't think it would necessarily make her a hypocrite.
	I mean, I don't, I think it would just, she wouldn't have room to talk.
	Like, she can't be that punchy.
	Okay, well, how about this one?
	A woman who's not a professional athlete.
	So, you're kind of mudding the water a little bit here by saying only wanting to date this.
	So, is that your original position?
	So, like, what if a guy his general preference is towards low body count women, but he himself has a high body count?
	Okay.
	Well, even if I was going to say, you know what?
	I'll just bite on it.
	So, the guy with a high body count, he only wants to date low body count women.
	Okay.
	Don't actually have a problem with this.
	I just, I don't see what's wrong with it.
	Would it be wrong for, I shouldn't ask you, I shouldn't even phrase it this way.
	What would actually be wrong with a woman who has a preference for dating professional athletes, but she's not a professional athlete?
	And women do do this.
	Yeah.
	Like, women do this.
	Why do they do it?
	They do it for the money and the fame, right?
	Or they're just attracted to professional athletes.
	I don't know.
	I mean, now we're getting down to like what the root cause of attraction in that specific case is, but I think if she was going after money and power, right?
	So if she's going after money and power, then I would call her a gold digger.
	But I mean, can you help who you're attracted to?
	No.
	I mean, I think you can actually, I think you can work towards it.
	You can work towards it, okay?
	But if you can't help generally, like, can you right now find men you find unattractive attractive?
	I can somewhat push myself into it, but I'd prefer not to.
	Not generally, though, right?
	Correct.
	So if you only found men who were six feet tall attractive, is that something you're not six feet tall, right?
	Right.
	Okay, so are you a hypocrite?
	I mean, I see what you're saying.
	I think we're talking, like, what's the purpose of wanting a woman with a low body count, right?
	You're more attracted to it.
	You're more attracted to it, but why?
	Well, let's just assume that whatever the reason is is fucking ridiculous and stupid.
	Let's just assume it for the sake of the argument.
	So what?
	Even if it was the case, that it was just a stupid and ridiculous reason why they were attracted to it.
	Is that any less stupid and ridiculous than the reason you're attracted to men who are six feet or taller?
	I mean, I think it's fair to want a woman with a low body count.
	I'm not against that.
	Yeah, but that's not really the question.
	The question isn't whether or not you think it's fair.
	The question is, it's about attraction, right?
	When you're talking about being attracted to men, right, who are, let's say they're over six feet, do you find men who are over six feet attractive?
	I think it's, I guess then, how does he feel about the fact that he does have a high body count?
	And is that something that...
	How do you feel about the fact that you're not six foot?
	I don't...
	I didn't put in my question in there to be six foot five.
	If I can jump in really quick.
	Let's just say you're attracted to men who are six feet or taller.
	What would be actually wrong with that?
	I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
	I think it's just a little bit hypocritical.
	That's it.
	Because you're not six feet or taller yourself.
	No, I'm saying the body count debate is a little bit hypocritical.
	You also can't control your height.
	If you're only, yeah, you can't control it, but that's my whole point.
	You can control your body count.
	Control who you put it in.
	Okay, maybe, but so what?
	Are you attracted to black men?
	I mean, I can find them conventionally attractive, but they're not my type, typically, no.
	Okay.
	And if there's white people who are not attracted to black men, is that somehow wrong?
	Because that's an immutable characteristic?
	I don't think it's wrong.
	No.
	Yeah, so it's not.
	But body count is something you can say.
	You just said you can control.
	You just said you can control this thing, right?
	But you can't control height or things like this.
	But you can't control skin color either.
	And that could ruin your chances for conventional attractiveness, can't it?
	Right.
	You can't control your skin color.
	You can't control your height.
	So you can't control.
	But you can control your body count.
	Sure, sure.
	But what if you're attracted to women who have a low body count?
	You just don't want to have a low body count yourself.
	I mean, I think it would just be a little bit hypocritical because you, the reason you want a woman with a low body count is because she is all yours.
	You've had, you have like the privacy of her.
	She's, I'm trying to look for a specific word.
	I can't think of it, but like she's all yours.
	She hasn't been passed around by a bunch of men.
	I wouldn't want a man who's been passed around by a bunch of women.
	You know what I mean?
	Okay.
	So you're saying you wouldn't find that attractive?
	A man who's been passed around by a bunch of women, not necessarily.
	Again, I'm not saying he has to have a body count of zero.
	I think that's fair.
	I think that there's some women who wouldn't find that attractive.
	But I think the overwhelming majority of men don't find it attractive when women have high body counts.
	I agree.
	And so here's where we run into this kind of issue.
	So that woman, there was a woman, you just heard her talk, who said, you would be lucky to be with a woman like me.
	You're still a virgin.
	It seems that she's equating status with men who are able to have lots of sex with beautiful women.
	That's really strange.
	Why would women, do you think, equate status with men who have sex with many beautiful women, but also give them a lower status if they've had sex with no women?
	I wouldn't give them a high status.
	I wouldn't think specifically I'm asking about women.
	Why is it that women seem to give a higher status to men and give a lower status to men who have sex with no women?
	You're asking me to explain.
	You're asking me to explain the reason why a woman thinks the way she does when I don't think anything like her.
	Did she say beautiful women?
	beautiful she like when she said she said that she's she she said that she was conventionally attractive and that the other woman was conventionally attractive and that these men would be lucky to have them because they're still virgins you see So if that's the case, it sounds to me like she's assigning a lower social status than she would assign to a man who is able to, I don't know, pull women in her category, right?
	I think, I guess she's the hypocrite because she's thinking that women are the gatekeepers of sex, or sorry, schmex.
	Women are the gatekeepers of schmex, but at the same time, that men, like she's saying the same thing, but for both sexes.
	Do you smoke?
	Somewhat.
	Yeah, you shouldn't.
	Does that make me a hypocrite?
	How do you feel about it?
	That you shouldn't smoke.
	Okay.
	So I think we all do things that we know are bad for us.
	Yeah, does it make me a hypocrite, though?
	I'm smoking.
	I think a little bit.
	If I tell my 10-year-old not to smoke, am I a hypocrite?
	No, I guess not because you, how come I'm not a hypocrite when I tell my 10 year old not to smoke, but only a hypocrite when I tell you not to.
	No, I mean, if you told both of us not to.
	I feel like it also comes with age, like when you're legally allowed to.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Before the sisterhood kicks in, I just want to finish the exchange.
	I mean, I think.
	Why is it if I tell my 10-year-old not to smoke, even though I'm a smoker, that I'm not a hypocrite?
	I think it's because you have a responsibility to instill knowledge and to instill values and to instill behaviors into your child.
	You have a responsibility over this kid.
	You don't have any responsibility over me.
	It's also leading by example.
	That's where the problem comes in is that you misunderstand what the word hypocrite means.
	Hypocrite does not mean I am doing the same thing I'm telling you not to do.
	That's not hypocrisy.
	Hypocrisy requires pretentious acting.
	That's what hypocrisy is.
	Not believing what you're saying.
	If you're really fat and you're on a treadmill and you look over at a guy who's really fat, you say, hey, you shouldn't be so fat.
	That's not healthy for you.
	There is no hypocrisy there.
	He's correct.
	That guy is fat.
	He does need to lose weight.
	The status of you being fat has no bearing on that whatsoever.
	It's only if publicly I said smoking is bad, let's say, and then privately I was smoking away, then I would be a hypocrite.
	So it's not believing the things that you're putting out there.
	Yeah, there would be a sense of acting, yes.
	So if a man says that he prefers a woman with a low body count and he himself has a high body count, where's the acting?
	Okay, so that's what I said, is that it depends on how he feels about it.
	If he regrets it and he.
	No, he doesn't regret it.
	That's all he seeks is virgins and that's all he wants.
	How does that make him a hypocrite?
	Because he's not practicing what he believes.
	No, he is practicing what he believes.
	Or he isn't putting it.
	He believes that he should have a high body count and she shouldn't.
	I don't know.
	So where's the hypocrisy?
	Let me think.
	It's just like, let's just say I'm fat because I am.
	And I wanted a woman who was skinny, right?
	Am I a hypocrite?
	That's your preference.
	Of course.
	That's not hypocrisy.
	That's not what hypocrisy is.
	I think you have a bad idea of what hypocrisy is.
	I think with the smoking thing, it's more about like trying to, what's the word?
	You want your son to grow up to maybe not have the habits that you have.
	So it's more about setting a good example.
	So it's not hypocrisy?
	It is hypocrisy, but...
	How is it hypocrisy, though?
	Well, if you're smoking smoking.
	If I smoke and tell you smoking is bad, that's not hypocrisy.
	Well, it's mental.
	But if I tell you smoking is bad and I would never smoke.
	If you're smoking a cigarette in front of your son and then tell him not to smoke a cigarette, that's hypocritical.
	It's hypocrisy.
	Wait, so then, okay, so what is it on a man?
	So then the man in this scenario, he would say a high body count is bad, but then he has a high body count himself.
	I'm sorry, I'm getting a little bit lost on the screen.
	I see what you're doing because I feel like we're going more boundaries.
	What you're doing is classic reframing, right?
	Sure.
	In a case where a man says high body counts are bad, right?
	And he has a high body count, maybe you could make the equation of hypocrisy then.
	But that's not what men say.
	Okay, so I guess that was a matter of fact.
	If I have a high body count, and that's fine, and I want a woman who has a low body count, that is not hypocrisy.
	So my statement is, I guess I should have clarified in the note, that a man who thinks that a high body count is bad and prefers women with lower body counts, but then at the same time goes out and sleeps with a bunch of women, while also saying that having a high body count is bad, I think that that's hypocritical.
	Well, that would be hypocritical.
	Okay.
	Who's doing that?
	So let me clear.
	So that was the clarification on my opinion.
	Yeah, no, I mean, if there was a serial killer who told you serial killing was wrong, he's not being a hypocrite.
	It's if the man was actively pursuing serial killers because he said it was wrong and then secretly he was serial killing, then he would be a hypocrite, right?
	So, like, for example, like, I've seen Fit, I think their name is Fit and Fresh.
	I think I've seen Fit and Fresh say having a high body count is bad, but then at the same time they'll talk a lot about.
	I can tell you right now that I can tell you Myron's exact position.
	Okay.
	Myron's exact position is that men and their status equation with having a high body count for women actually makes them more attractive to women.
	And women who have a higher body count makes them less attractive to men.
	And here's how he backs this up.
	And it's really hard to argue this point because what he says is, look, women will usually insult men and put them in a lower social category if they haven't had sex with multiple women.
	They say you can't pull women.
	You're in a lower social category.
	Women, though, never put men in a lower social category because they have slept with many women.
	I actually, if I go on a date with a guy and he tells me he slept with like loads and loads of girls, it actually puts me off him.
	Sure.
	If it's like one.
	If your preference of attractive, hang on, your preference for attraction may go down.
	Sure.
	But that doesn't mean his social status goes down with women because it doesn't.
	Your particular and specific preference may go away.
	Just like your preference may be to have blonde-haired guys.
	That doesn't mean that the social status of a man goes down because he doesn't have blonde hair.
	The truth of the matter is, is the social status of men, at least in the current society, if they can have sex with beautiful women, is real high.
	Well, that's really good.
	And the social status for women, having sex with multiple men is not because it's really easy for women to do that, isn't it?
	Yeah, of course.
	Pretty much any woman can walk outside and get laid within five minutes.
	If you and I go out to the street tomorrow and we're holding a sign and you say, first man who honks, I'll suck your dick, right?
	And I say, first woman who honks, I'll sleep with you.
	Who do you think is going to get honked at first?
	Probably a girl for sure.
	Of course.
	Yeah, the girl for sure.
	So it's not some big feat.
	It's not some great task that you've accomplished, is it?
	Oh, absolutely not.
	I don't think a woman having a huge body count is something to be proud of at all.
	But for a man, it is actually a big task, isn't it?
	That if you could pull tons of beautiful women, that actually is something which is not something most men can do.
	But for women, it seems to be super duper easy.
	So that's why the social status seems to be associated with that.
	You said something specific.
	You said, if he can sleep with many beautiful women, I think women can sleep with a lot of men, but certain women choose to be chase, right?
	That's the word?
	Chase?
	Yes.
	And their value goes exponentially higher.
	Exponentially higher.
	Dance does not.
	If you look at a man and you're like, oh, yeah, he can definitely get it.
	But then you talk to him and he's like, yeah, I don't throw myself around there.
	I think maybe we can go around and ask you.
	And women see that as a red flag, actually.
	Can we actually go around and ask?
	Because most women will see men in their 30s who are virgins as being red flags.
	What's wrong with them?
	What's going on with him?
	What's the problem with that guy?
	Okay, but like if I see a conventionally attractive man and I know that he could get any woman in the bar at that specific time and then I come up to talk to him and he's like, yeah, I've actually only really had one relationship.
	I only had one partner.
	That would instantly make me attracted to him.
	Yeah, that's hot.
	I honestly think everybody here would agree with that.
	I think we can see an attractive man, understand that he can get it, but knowing that he didn't is hot.
	And it's the same way for women.
	Yeah, well, let's find out if this is true.
	Okay.
	We'll do this with just a quick social experiment.
	I'm ready to be proved wrong.
	I want you, if you have slept with more than three men who have had only one body or less, raise your hand.
	If you have slept with more than two men who have had more than five bodies, raise your hand.
	Wait, can you say that?
	If you have slept with more than three men, more than three men, and those three men have had more than five bodies, raise your hand.
	Wait, sorry.
	I was getting confused.
	What's confusing about this?
	Sorry, if you've slept with three men, three, no, sorry.
	Okay, who have had more than three women, raise your hand.
	Raise it up.
	Come on, raise it up.
	You fucking lion sack.
	Raise your hand.
	Yeah, there we go.
	Nobody's raising their fucking hand when it came to the man who would only slept with one, but you want me to believe that you just find them to be conventionally attractive.
	Yeah, right.
	Tell me some more bullshit some other time.
	I feel like it's kind of hard to find men that's only slept with like one guy, especially like where we're where we are at, like in the LA and stuff.
	I feel like a lot of people, like typically, it's either you haven't had sex with anyone because you're saving yourself, or like you've had sex with more people when it comes to men.
	That's how I feel.
	Let's put this to the test.
	Do you think it's easier to find men with a lower body count or women with a lower body count?
	Women.
	You think it's easier to find women with a lower body count?
	Absolutely.
	Shall we go through the stats?
	Just because we can get more doesn't mean that we do.
	Hang on.
	Shall we go through the stats of how many men remain virgins versus women by the time they're 21 years old?
	You want to go through those stats?
	I'd love to hear that.
	That's true.
	Let's say it's because they're watching porn and they don't have hundreds of mentality.
	Men definitely have a lower body count than women in general.
	Men definitely have a lower body count.
	I disagree.
	Generally speaking, than women do in their same age bracket.
	Why?
	Because of sex selection.
	It's just sex selection.
	They just keep it.
	Maybe I've seen the wrong thing because all the men I met with the most sexy business.
	I think it's also age brackets.
	So I feel like women sleep.
	Women get more action when they're younger.
	So between the ages of probably, I'm pulling this out of nowhere, but probably like 18 to 22.
	And then men are probably getting more action once they've actually set up their careers.
	They're making more money in the field.
	Women are more attracted to them.
	So then it's like 24 to 24.
	Nah, they stay sluts for a minute.
	Yeah.
	But I'm saying, like, when do at which I'd actually really be interested in seeing the numbers on this is when each sex kind of accumulates their body count at what ages generally?
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	He's not.
	He's not even here.
	He's gone.
	Do we understand what I said?
	He's kind of at what age is that.
	I want to bring it back to like the central thing that we were talking about.
	Hide the Discord really quick until he's back.
	So to your original point, you're like, oh, well, a guy who has a high body count, if he desires a low body count woman or virgin, blah, blah, blah.
	Like that's wrong, whatever.
	But on that same questionnaire, you indicated that you have an expectation that men pay for first dates.
	Okay.
	You have that expectation.
	You have that desire.
	You have that want.
	Do you pay for first dates?
	I mean, I haven't gone on many dates, but the ones I have, no.
	Or even if you don't go on many dates, do you want to pay for the first date?
	No.
	So you desire something in a partner that either, in this case, the trait of willingness to pay for the date, you don't possess said trait of willingness to pay for the date, yet you want men to pay for the date.
	I don't think it's wrong.
	I think what we clarified was it would be me saying that it's wrong to want men to pay on the first date.
	And then expecting that out of men.
	Because that's what we clarified with Andrew on: was that I clarified my opinion, was that I think a man, a man who thinks a high body count is bad, but then expects that out of a woman, that is hypocritical.
	And I think that's what we agreed on: that's the definition of hypocrisy.
	It just is the case that it is the case, perhaps this is pattern recognition, that this high body count man, through his experience and through getting that high body count, he's realized, well, it seems like the women that I've had longer-term relationships with or the more pleasant women or just like a general vague sense of lack of an ick or whatever it is, he's come to that determination through his high body count.
	I prefer low body count women.
	What's actually wrong with that?
	I feel like everybody's allowed to have that.
	Don't we all want to get the best that we can get?
	Yes.
	And if we can get it, we're going to go for it.
	So if it is the case that the highest quality women, the best quality partners, girlfriends, wives, whatever, the lower body count, the better.
	Wouldn't even men who are promiscuous themselves have a preference towards low body count women because these women, a lower likelihood of STD.
	But does he think a high body count is bad?
	Does he think a high body count is bad?
	Why women he thinks a high body count is bad.
	Let's say he thinks it's because that was the clarification that we came upon was that if he thinks it's bad, but because that was the definition of hypocrites.
	Look, if he thinks that having a high body count in general is bad, right?
	Like, oh, this is this is bad.
	This is blah, He can still, a man can have a preference, even if he has a high body count, to have a woman with a low body count.
	That's not hypocrisy.
	It would only be if he's making a moral advocation of X while at the same time doing X.
	That would be what would make him a hypocrite.
	Agreed.
	Definitionally, it would be.
	I'll just tell you the definition.
	But agreed.
	So he wouldn't be continuing having claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one owns behavior does not conform.
	That's hypocrisy.
	Okay, so he has a belief that having a high body count is bad, but his actions, as you just said, don't conform to that.
	How is his actions not conforming to it?
	After having a high body count that he doesn't regret or he doesn't think, hey, maybe he does say he regrets it, but he still has a preference for a woman with a lower body count.
	That wouldn't make him a hypocrite, right?
	Wait, I'm sorry, say that again?
	There's like people screaming at us.
	Jose says, high body counts in men and women are generally bad, right?
	They're bad.
	Men shouldn't be promiscuous and women shouldn't be promiscuous.
	But in my dating life, I prefer women who have a low body count.
	That is not hypocrisy.
	But wasn't that what we agreed on was hypocrisy?
	No, you said something different earlier, I think.
	You said that there was an advocation that he was saying a high body count is bad while he was out fucking.
	Right.
	That is what I'm saying.
	Yeah, but that's a distinctly different thing.
	If he settles down and says, I'm not going to increase my body, I'm not going to keep doing what I'm doing and keep sleeping around.
	That's what I'm saying, then that's fine.
	But if he continues sleeping around and at the same time, he's, let's say, running through all of us and telling every single one of us, high body count is bad, high body count is bad, and just running through us, that's when I think it's kind of silly.
	Yeah, that would be a moral advocation of a thing you don't actually believe.
	True.
	You're saying, but that's only if the inference is towards the man.
	If he's saying in both men ages, this is bad.
	Then yeah, that would be a hypocrite.
	I'm saying both.
	Yes, if that was his advocation, both.
	That's bad.
	And they continue to do the behavior.
	Yeah, that would be hypocrisy, correct?
	That's my statement.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, but that doesn't, like, that doesn't help us reconcile anything because it's not actual hypocrisy then.
	If a man has a high body count and prefers a woman with a lower body count, it could just come down to preference, right?
	Not hypocrisy.
	Can I?
	So I'll take the paper and I'll rewrite my statement into exactly what you and I just stated is that, and I'll, I'll write it with the 1500 characters.
	Is that if he, it's not 1500 characters.
	I'm just making sure that we're clear on what it is we're talking about.
	That's all.
	And yes, that is the clarification.
	Is that if he continues saying that a high body count is bad, but continues in those actions, and we're talking about men and women, not for men, not for women, and continues in those actions, I think that's hypocritical.
	Well, the other thing is, is to remember, like on the Myron side, everything that he's saying there when it comes to power dynamics between men and women seemingly plays out socially as being at least somewhat true.
	When men have these ridiculously high body counts, they pull in.
	Let's just say that they slept, what, 300 women, right?
	And they're, you know, multi-millionaires and things like this.
	Their social status in society doesn't seem to go down a bit.
	It just doesn't seem to go down a bit.
	Just because they win.
	Drastically nosedive for women.
	Just because they win from it doesn't mean it's good.
	Like, just because I'm making money from OF doesn't mean that's good.
	Look, I don't advocate for that.
	Can I just say something to you why he comes to this conclusion?
	Can you guys finish up your exchange?
	I'm done.
	It's literally just going to be third seconds.
	Is it related to this topic?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I know this, I'm not condoning.
	I don't know, but men, I think, are hardwired to sort of, this is very cringe, but to spread their seed.
	And women are meant to, because, you know, they're pregnant for nine months.
	So it's like, on an animalistic level, it kind of makes sense that maybe men would have more sexual partners than women.
	I wish I'd explain that better.
	Well, just because you're programmed or want to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.
	Like, for example, like, well, I understand, but you can say the same thing about gay people.
	They make the same argument.
	Well, I was born and I was wired to have schmecks with the same sex.
	So it's right for me to do it.
	I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
	I'm just saying that's the argument that they make.
	But I feel like there are people, like, men are actually meant to do that.
	Like, that's just a choice.
	Like, people like cheat.
	I agree.
	So, but, like, that's, like, actually, like, in, like, you know, like, the guys are there to produce.
	So I could see why it could be like more.
	And I think that's where, I think that's where religion comes in is that, like, okay, so are we saying that cheating on your wife is good just so you can spread your seed all over?
	No, because I'm not saying it's acceptable.
	I'm just saying that maybe that's one of the reasons why it's more acceptable in a way for a man to have a higher body count than a woman.
	I think it's way simpler than this.
	I think that in women's lizard brain, man who virgin, right, can't pull women, red flag come up in lizard brain.
	Man who lots of women like, green flag come up in lizard brain.
	Super simple.
	I don't even think it's that complicated.
	Oh, lots of women like him.
	There must be something about him that's great.
	Oh, women don't like him.
	There must be something about him that's bad.
	I think it's really that simple.
	I think that all of this is an over, you're over, or trying to make something complex.
	It's not really that complex.
	If it is the case that women avoid the company of a man, right, likely it raises a red flag in the lizard brain of other women, why is everybody avoiding the company of this man?
	And if you see a man, on the other hand, who women seem to really enjoy his company, I think that you go, well, I wonder what that's all about.
	That's what I think.
	I don't even think it's that complex.
	Well, the question was: what did I think about it?
	Did I think it was hypocritical?
	Maybe all the women here don't think it's hypocritical.
	Maybe they all want a man with a high body count.
	But I'm saying for me personally, I think it's hypocritical and it's not something I would want in a partner.
	And again, I'm not saying you're also making a black and white statement.
	You're saying he's either getting thousands of women or he's getting no women.
	I want somebody who's like over here.
	I'll make it super simple.
	I'll make it super simple.
	Me and Andrew don't have objections to women having the preference of, I myself as a woman want a low body count man.
	But would you be willing to agree to this?
	That generally speaking, women are far more forgiving of promiscuity in men than the reverse.
	Like women will deal with, if a guy's super attractive and he's got a high body count, then that's like less of a big deal, whereas promiscuity in women is a bigger, bigger issue.
	I can agree to that on a societal level.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying on a personal level, but on a societal level.
	Yes, women are not.
	Yeah, I'm not saying it's the case for you.
	Yes.
	But I would say generally speaking, women either care a little bit, I agree.
	Less, don't care at all.
	Chris Brown, who's probably slept with hundreds, if not thousands of women, and also has a history of like alleged domestic violence, or maybe it was, well, is it alleged?
	I don't know, whatever.
	Men do tend to care more.
	That's for sure.
	Like literally, just look at the groupie phenomenon.
	There's rock stars out there.
	They got hundreds of female groupies who are just on demand to sleep with them whenever they want.
	That does not happen in reverse.
	That it does not happen.
	You don't see a bunch of females out there who are big pop stars and this and that who have hundreds of male groupies who follow them around.
	You just don't see it.
	It's not the same thing.
	When you're looking at the social status, what is compelling all those women to fuck the rock star?
	What is doing that?
	What is compelling those women to get a hold of the serial killer in prison and have sex with him?
	What is the deal with this, right?
	That is not a phenomenon which happens in reverse.
	It doesn't happen in reverse.
	Although, I'll know there's a lot of desperate dudes, though.
	Like the dudes who fuck Bonnie Blue.
	No.
	Yeah, that's a very good brand.
	But it's not impressive because any woman can go out tomorrow and be Bonnie Blue.
	Any woman sitting at this table tomorrow can walk out in the middle of the street, hold up a sign, say any man who wants to fuck me right now can.
	And there's going to be an unlimited supply of men who are going to pull off.
	Bonnie Blue is revolting, but so would the men who are engaging and not revolting as well.
	Hang on, hang on, lady.
	If a man goes out there and holds up a sign and says, hey, I'm open for business, okay, he's going to go home real fucking disappointed.
	That's just the truth.
	Wait, that is the truth.
	I have a really good test.
	I have a really good test for this.
	Anya, who is a guy, maybe you can give us a male celebrity who's like your celebrity crush, who you just really find super high, super attractive?
	Morgan Wallen.
	And I'm sure he has a body count of a million.
	Morgan Wallen.
	So the question is: hold on.
	God damn.
	The question is, if you knew that he had slept with a thousand women, but he wanted a long-term relationship with you, and he was serious about you, whatever, whatever kind of relationship dynamic you wanted, would you date him?
	Is he.
	It's behind him.
	I mean, yeah.
	I would still get in.
	If he said, I'm done with this lifestyle, I'm done with sleeping around with tons and tons of women and I'm ready to commit to just you.
	Sure.
	And then how about this?
	He's still actively kind of being promiscuous, but you get the opportunity to hook up with him.
	Do you do it?
	Probably not.
	I don't like a roster.
	You pass off.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	I don't like, I don't have a roster.
	I don't like being on a roster.
	But there's no male celebrity you could think of.
	Like, despite him being maybe promiscuous actively, let's like remove like risk of STDs or whatever on this.
	No.
	I think it just leads to heartbreak because schmex for women is very different than schmex for men.
	And women get very attached.
	Are there any girls here who like your male celebrity crush, whoever you think is like super attractive?
	Maybe they're promiscuous, maybe they're not.
	Let's assume they are.
	Would you have a casual encounter with your, I don't know, the guy who you think is like the sexiest man in the world?
	Whatever.
	Like, for example, like, like, so let's say he was already messing around still.
	Would I still do something with him?
	Is that what you're asking?
	Sure.
	I mean, if, like, I would.
	Here, let's start with this.
	Who's your male celebrity crush?
	Um.
	Does somebody else can?
	I'm sorry.
	Can somebody else who can actually give me an answer just please give me an answer?
	I can try.
	Okay, so my celebrity crush is Theo Vaughan, right?
	Okay.
	If he asked me out on a date, I would definitely go.
	And he's obviously slept with thousands and thousands of women.
	But would I just have a casual one-night stand with him?
	Probably not, because I've never done anything like that before.
	Sure, but you don't rule him out as a potential partner.
	But no.
	But just so I can get through this, what about you, Chloe?
	Literally, Morgan Wallen is one of my biggest celebrity crushes.
	Okay.
	But I wouldn't sleep with him if I just met him, but I would if he wanted a long-term relationship like yours.
	What about you?
	I would say maybe Zach Efron.
	I would.
	Okay, Zach Efron.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Honestly, I can't think of anybody.
	Okay, what about you over here?
	No, I wouldn't.
	Well, hypothetically.
	What was that?
	Hypothetically, if you weren't.
	No, hypothetically.
	Even if I was single, I find it meaningless to have casual sex.
	Okay, what about would you okay?
	What about a date?
	Would you go on a date with him?
	No, because no, because if I, if there is no intention or purpose behind that date, I wouldn't.
	No, there's an intention.
	He's willing to date you.
	Yeah, if it's going to lead into something more with purpose and like commitment.
	What if your celebrity crush had slept with a thousand women before, though?
	It would definitely be in the back of my mind, but I don't think it would be equal to what a guy's perspective would be towards women.
	Okay, so the point I was trying to make here is, at least for me, you could present to me whatever the most attractive woman I've ever seen.
	If I know, even for a casual encounter or long term, if I know that she's actively promiscuous, it's 100% a deal breaker.
	If she fucked a dude last night, I don't care how hot she is.
	For me, it's a wrap.
	It's over.
	Don't care how hot she is.
	Don't care how outside of my league she is.
	Don't care.
	She fucked another dude last night.
	Not interested.
	If she's got a high body count, not interested.
	It's just 100% a deal breaker for men.
	Well, excuse me, I shouldn't say it's for me.
	For me, it's 100% a deal breaker.
	Don't care how hot she is.
	Don't want to have sex with her once.
	Don't want to friends with benefits.
	Don't want a relationship.
	Don't want anything with a girl who's currently actively fucking other men or has a past of promiscuity.
	Well, let's say, like, is someone like, for example, how you guys were talking about how if a guy like wanted to change his ways, like, let's say a girl, when she was younger and dumb or whatever, was doing a bunch of stuff, like, and they didn't want to be like that anymore.
	You'd say that that would affect it, like, completely.
	Like, you want to give them any benefit of the doubt?
	Yeah, the million, that's the million-dollar question, right?
	You really, you finally kind of kind of hit on the thing we're getting at here.
	So I think that since all of you basically said, you know, if he came to my celebrity crush and they're reformed, I would still go on a date with them, you know, and maybe if things went well, you know, yeah, I would definitely settle down with a guy.
	Maybe he's a really good guy, something like this.
	For a lot of men, it's a complete disqualifier immediately, right?
	Even if your past still remains with you.
	There's a lot of this that happens where women will move over to the Christian church, right, after having a love life filled with threesomes and every horrible thing in the world.
	And they should, right?
	They should come into Christ.
	I agree with that.
	But it doesn't erase their past.
	You don't get to buy a new reputation.
	So a lot of them think that they deserve to have men who are extremely high quality, even though they have that past.
	And well, they don't.
	Men still have a preference against that.
	They're like, well, you know, you did fuck 300 guys and I'm going to take a hard pass on that or even 20 or 15 or 10, you know.
	And the reason for that is because exponentially, it makes them feel like they're not special, really.
	If you think about it, isn't that really what they would feel like?
	Like, oh, okay, well, yeah, I have you, but so did fucking half the block, right?
	They wouldn't, why would why would it make them feel good about themselves?
	That's not an accomplishment, right?
	When you mentioned groupies, not as, I'm not saying you were using it to justify it, but when you mentioned groupies as an example of kind of how this dynamic works, I don't think just because it happens that it's okay.
	And I think it's also just a product of dating culture.
	Well, look, I agree.
	I don't think male promiscuity is good.
	I don't think female promiscuity is good.
	So we're on the same page about it.
	Yeah, on both fronts.
	I think both are bad.
	I'm not in the same camp as a lot of different people are.
	I think it's bad for men generally to be promiscuous.
	But I also understand social dynamics.
	And while I can say both things are bad, I can clearly tell that women care way less about it than men do.
	And if that's the case, then that needs to be taken into account in the dating scene, right?
	It really does.
	Because what happens is women limit their prospects later for fun now.
	I feel like, yeah, and if that's like something that someone wants, I feel like there shouldn't be a problem in looking.
	Because, you know, everybody, like when you're looking for somebody that you want to be with, like you obviously everyone's going to have certain standards.
	So I feel like if that's just what somebody wants to hold a standard to, then I would say that that is their right to do so.
	You know, some people are different, but I feel like that that is completely like understandable.
	If that's something like in their future, like where they know like they're going to spend the rest of their life with this person, if that's something that they wanted to have in a woman, then I feel like that could, that should be respected because there is a bunch of a million different people.
	The thing that's funny about all this is like, I know I can tell you how history is going to go.
	Like in a crystal ball right now, I'll tell you exactly how it's going to go.
	You can imagine that men, let's just say men magically tomorrow had access to the NFL en masse.
	They could all just go play for the NFL.
	Whenever they, you know, basically any of them could just go do that.
	A lot of them would go do that.
	They would get brain damage.
	They would get fucked up.
	They get all kinds of messed up going and playing in the NFL.
	Right.
	But when they were young, they wouldn't care because they'd be making a bunch of that NFL money.
	They wouldn't care.
	They wouldn't think about the stage two, stage three of life.
	They would only think about that stage one.
	We're seeing right now is the phenomenon of women in the same exact mindset.
	They can all join the NFL.
	They can all join OF and be part of that sexual elite and make that big bag of cash, easy money, right?
	But that's only stage one.
	What happens when he gets a stage two and stage three?
	Well, the boxers, men who box, they get brain damage.
	They get messed up.
	They have all sorts of consequences.
	Men in the NFL, all sorts of consequences.
	Men who do these things end up with severe damage in exchange for that money.
	Same shit's going to happen to all these OnlyFans girls.
	Same stuff.
	They're not preparing for the future.
	They're not preparing for the future, them.
	They're only preparing for the right now them.
	And you can imagine the damage that would do to men if they had that kind of access.
	But for some reason, women don't even think about the amount of damage they're doing to themselves.
	Well, then you've got to blame the men in a way because they're the ones who are paying for it.
	You got to just let him finish his thought before you.
	Yeah, you're going to run into stage two of life and you're not there yet.
	And when you get there, you're going to realize that, oh shit, there's a heavy, heavy price and a heavy toll to be paid for the bag now.
	I'm not in any funds.
	Okay.
	Chair one, you're in the corn business.
	Most men in the corn business have to start with corning men.
	So would you be exclusive with a guy with a higher body count than men?
	Why was just making money like you?
	Thank you, Zach, for the super chat.
	Would I be exclusive with a guy with a higher body count than women?
	I think that's presupposing that I have a high body count just because I'm in the corn industry.
	I don't.
	Well, he's also saying that often men, I mean, this is like in the traditional adult entertainment industry that they start out sleeping with men.
	I don't know if that's really the case anymore.
	I don't really know what the point of the question is because it's like he's basically asking me, would I?
	There's two different things here.
	He's saying, would you sleep with a man who slept with other men?
	Here, I'll frame it like this.
	Do you think a woman's past should not matter?
	I think it should matter somewhat.
	Her body count.
	Yeah.
	Her body count.
	Yeah.
	Like if a guy didn't want to date you just because of your body count.
	I think that's totally fair.
	Okay.
	That's totally fair.
	I think he would then argue, okay, well, if you said, oh, woman's past shouldn't matter, he would probably pause it.
	Well, okay, what about a guy who used to sleep with men?
	No, that's totally fair.
	Okay.
	I wouldn't sleep with a man who has slept with other men.
	Going to Chloe, should a woman's past matter?
	No.
	Or no.
	Yes, it does matter.
	Sorry.
	Annabelle?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that men respect women who aren't easy.
	What about you?
	Like, she said the first.
	I feel like it depends to a point.
	Like, and to a point.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would say, yeah.
	Past project, past.
	Past matters.
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	Into the mic.
	For me, if a guy chose not to be with me.
	Can you tilt your mic down?
	Can you move your mic over this way?
	Sorry, I can't go.
	Is this one?
	Leave it where it is, please.
	Is this one right here?
	Yeah, you're fine.
	Okay, cool.
	So I would say that if a guy didn't want to be with me due to my body count, then he's not the right guy for me.
	Okay, so it shouldn't matter?
	Okay.
	No, not at all.
	It should matter, just like we were talking previously about preferences of life choices, you know, to do only founds or to not do it.
	It should be the preference of a man or a woman to decide whether they want to pursue this partner.
	And it's all about compatibility.
	All right, going around the table then.
	People, you know, past should matter, should matter.
	Body count, Felicity, you go first.
	Two.
	We're going to skip over to Chloe.
	Five.
	Okay, we're gonna go around, we're gonna go to you.
	I mean, I don't really want to like talk about that because I don't really know exactly like did you lose track?
	No, I just don't feel like I really want to talk about that topic exactly because I'm not, I don't really want to talk about it.
	I would say like seven, but like I don't really want to, I don't really want to say that, but I feel like it doesn't really matter.
	Okay.
	Um going to you, body count?
	I never counted ever.
	You want to do a range, a ballpark?
	For me specifically, I've probably been, I'm 44 years old.
	I don't know, at least 100 men.
	And if you include women, probably 200.
	Okay.
	And wait, question.
	Do you recall what it was like because you guys opened up your relationship, right?
	What was it like when you got married?
	When I got married, I really honestly never ever counted, but.
	But do you think that the high proportion of that, you said 100 plus for including men, 200 plus if you include women?
	Do you think that that occurred half after you opened up the marriage and then started doing I'd probably say half and half.
	Yeah.
	I was promiscuous when I was young.
	Okay, promiscuous.
	I had no intention on getting married or doing anything like that.
	So you think it was maybe between the range of like 50 to 100 prior to marriage?
	Yeah, I'd say around, yeah, 50.
	I'd probably say 50 women, 50 men before marriage, and then 50 women, 50 men after marriage.
	Didn't you get married super young?
	At 19?
	Yes.
	19.
	Wait, yeah.
	So at 19 years old, you had 50 and 50?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I would.
	I mean, I never counted.
	Like I told you, you're asking me a question of, I never, for me, I never saw a point of counting.
	Like, if I wanted to have sex with somebody, I would do it.
	Was it, do you recall, like, how young were you when you first?
	Yeah, I lost my virginity at 13.
	Like with a boyfriend or?
	Yeah, with a boyfriend.
	Well, it was my best friend's brother, to be honest with you.
	Well, she knew.
	Sorry.
	She knew.
	And then by like the end of high school, do you know what it might have been by like end of high school?
	I never ever counted.
	I was never one of those people that were like, oh, you know, there was Bobby and Justin and Damien and Jaquervius.
	I've been on my own since I was 13 years old, right?
	When girls were worrying about prom and dances and things like that, I was worrying about like how I was going to feed myself, where I was going to stay, things to that nature, right?
	I just came from a completely different life then.
	Wait, have you done any escorting?
	Oh, no, I never did escorting.
	No, I never did that.
	I mean, I worked.
	I had a job.
	I lived on a reservation.
	I had a job at Arby's.
	At 14 years old, I was doing paper routes.
	I was literally surviving.
	By the age of 16, I was traveling across the United States selling magazines door to door, and I had a fake idea.
	I was going to bars.
	I was having one-night stands.
	I was going Maudi Gras.
	I was just doing crazy things that a normal 24, 25-year-old do, but at a very young age.
	I had to grow up extremely fast.
	So I just never, I just, why girls were worrying about prom dresses, like, I wasn't going like, oh, I don't know, there's Freddie and Lisa and Marie and all that kind of stuff.
	I was living it up.
	Got it.
	Okay, moving through the rest of the notes here, Chloe, really quick, just a recap here.
	You said last show that you pass out during sex because of a condition that you have.
	Yeah.
	What do you want to talk about?
	Well, that's one of the reasons why I have, I think, like a, I mean, some people might think that five is like a high body count, but for me, um, like, I just don't, like, trust people because I have that problem with passing out.
	Um, because you can, like, take advantage of me.
	Um, so yeah.
	Doesn't it only happen, though, while you're already having no, like, if someone fingers me or like eats me out, it happens too.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly.
	We don't know if this is a ruse.
	We don't know what the truth is, Chloe.
	We don't know.
	I think I have a follow-up also from the previous question on body count.
	Those of you who answered the body count question, can you quickly raise your hand very quickly?
	Oh, wait, we need to.
	Did we not get the answer?
	Oh, Anya.
	Okay, really quick.
	Let's finish it.
	Anya, body count?
	Five men, two women.
	Body count?
	I prefer quality over quantity.
	And I'm.
	So 50?
	No, but I'm basically just my boyfriend.
	So.
	Which has been like a million?
	Like five.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	Five.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	There wasn't that one time in Ibiza.
	There wasn't that one time.
	There wasn't that one time in Monaco.
	Back then.
	There wasn't that one time.
	I was too busy doing drugs and drinking.
	Oh.
	I'm joking.
	I'm joking.
	Did we get body count?
	One.
	I wish it was zero.
	Biggest regret.
	Wait.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I said one.
	Wish it was zero.
	Biggest regret and mistake because I wish I waited.
	Is it your current relationship?
	Yeah.
	But you regret?
	Wait, question argument.
	Yeah, I just regret not waiting.
	I just wish it was postponed.
	Like, I wish it didn't happen.
	you guys so you like had nothing to do with him personally i I just personally, I wish I had waited, you know?
	But so are you continuing to wait?
	Or are you guys in an active sexual relationship?
	No, it has nothing to do with whether we are or not.
	It's just, I wish it never happened.
	No, I know.
	I'm just asking it.
	It's based off of just the way that I like perceived.
	Okay, but I'm just asking, I get that you wish it never happened.
	Are you, it's with your current boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Are you guys in an actively sexually active relationship?
	No.
	So it was like a one-time mistake?
	Not a one-time, like it happened, but he's like the only person.
	That's why I wish it never happened.
	Does that make sense?
	So it happened once?
	No, it happened multiple times, but I'm talking about like it happened with one specific person.
	I just wish it never happened.
	With your current boyfriend?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Like I wish I waited.
	Like, I wish it didn't happen.
	Wait, so you guys, so you've been dating for three years?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	How far into the relationship did that happen?
	I would say like within the first year.
	Okay, but you guys are now both remaining celibate.
	Yeah.
	Was that your idea or his?
	Mine.
	Is he a religious guy?
	Is he also Orthodox Christian?
	I would, yeah, he is, but like him aside, just personal preference, like I wish it never happened.
	No diss to him, nothing towards him specifically.
	Okay.
	And was he on board with that?
	Yeah.
	With uh not having sex anymore, okay.
	Uh everybody answered the body count question.
	Um, I prefer prefer not to see.
	Do you want to do range or ballpark?
	Uh, less than 10.
	Okay, dope.
	So, my follow-up here: okay, this is a fun social experiment.
	So, all you guys got to put your hands on the table right in front of you.
	Go ahead.
	Everybody puts their hands on the table right in front of them.
	All right.
	So, I'm going to ask a question.
	And if after I'm done with the question, I just want you to raise your hand, okay?
	If you know, depending on if it's true or false, raise your hand.
	If I asked you if your body count would increase based on blowjobs, would it?
	Raise your hand.
	Capping-ass, lying-ass, fucking women.
	I don't have anything to say.
	I don't know.
	Women fucking cap and maybe.
	So, every single time you like had a blowjob, like you had sex, but no, every time you increase if you counted blowjobs, if you counted blowjobs, would your body count increase?
	Show of hands.
	I don't know.
	I'm gonna have a half-hand.
	It's my half-hand because I don't.
	All right, all right.
	I really didn't like to keep counting, anyways.
	Are you coming back to the table?
	Or can we move our hands?
	I thought we're doing like the if you've done this, have you done this?
	All right, I'm just asking if the body count would increase.
	Would that body count answer be different if we based it on things like blowjobs, fingerings, things like that with the ball with the body count?
	Probably fingering and stuff like that might have changed because, like, when you're younger, you know, like I feel like it was like different because, like, we like I didn't have sex with like I didn't have sex until like I was with the guy for like three years.
	Me and him were together for like two and a half, three years almost.
	But before that, like, I've done like little side things like that, like when you're like younger, moving on to the notes.
	Annabelle, you said you used to live in London when you were 23, you're the epitome of a good girl.
	You ended up doing a runaway bride type situation, you actually ended up running away with your fiancé's best friend, but that relationship ended up being six years.
	So, arguably, the cheating, which you still felt bad about, was kind of worth it.
	Well, yeah, well, I still feel like that's such a sickening and awful thing to do, but I did sorry.
	Um, however, the only thing that kind of like stops me from kind of hating myself so much about what I did is that at least the person that I ran away with and cheated on, like it was quite a long and loving relationship.
	And I, I, but like, I take full accountability and trust me, karma got me.
	A couple questions here on this.
	Um, so you guys were engaged, yeah.
	How long had you guys been dating?
	Uh, two years, okay.
	And a clarifying question: had you was there infidelity prior to the running away bit?
	That was, we kissed, and then we, it was kind of like it sounds this sounds really, really, really crazy, but like the moment we kissed, we both kind of like realized that we were like really in love with each other, and so then we kind of like were like, we've got to run away and Like, because we didn't want it to, we didn't want it to go any further because we knew that that would be like even worse, you know.
	But did you literally run away?
	Like, you left the city?
	Yeah, we, we, we booked a flight to Bali, and this is, like, karma is real, because on the way on the plane to Bali, my dad died.
	So, I landed in Bali with my runaway lover, and then, yeah, so karma really is real, guys.
	Did you say Bali?
	Bali, yeah, Indonesia.
	Yeah, was his name, was his name Jake by chance?
	No way.
	Oh, okay.
	I was just curious.
	I know.
	Some clarifying questions here.
	So you were dating the guy, the original guy, your fiancé for, sorry, two years, you said?
	Three years?
	Two years, was yeah.
	Okay.
	And had you cheated with him on anybody else?
	Or sorry?
	Absolutely.
	With anybody else or just with his best friend?
	Yeah, only with his best friend, yeah.
	But so how soon after the kiss did the runaway happen?
	Like two, three weeks.
	We were trying to because we didn't want it to keep going on.
	You know what I mean?
	We felt so guilty.
	Like, I felt sick.
	Wanted to be in a different hemisphere before you had sex.
	I mean, I was young.
	Yeah.
	I was young.
	It was.
	Oh, you said 23?
	Yeah.
	When this happened?
	I assume the wedding was had the wedding been planned?
	I'd actually paid for the whole wedding, so I cancelled it.
	How close to you, how close were you to the wedding?
	Six months.
	Okay, six months away.
	Yeah.
	How much had been paid for for the wedding or whatever?
	About £50,000.
	£50,000.
	And had you had feelings for the best friend during the course of the relationship?
	No, it was literally just like in one night, just like, boom.
	It was absolutely, it was the strangest thing ever.
	Best friend, his best friend.
	That's like multiple betrayals.
	I actually sometimes think that the best friend is like, obviously, what I did was morally despicable.
	But I think the best friend is even worse because friendship of like 20 years.
	Yeah, who's more evil?
	Right.
	Her or the or the best friend.
	Yeah.
	I mean, both.
	Both.
	It's both just, yeah, it's disgusting.
	And I take full accountability for it and I've apologized and I...
	How did he take it, your fiancé?
	He was really confused.
	He was very upset.
	And then I had to come back to London for my dad's funeral.
	And everyone thought you were engaged.
	And it was just a complete shit show.
	Absolute shit show.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	You said, however, now that you're 34, you're still single.
	So you'd love to discuss the topic, whether you've done the right thing as a DJ, whether your job could be perceived as promiscuous.
	Yeah.
	You said you have a lot of regrets, yet respect yourself.
	You're super MAGA, by the way.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I do think that sometimes because of, because like, so I don't really go out like clubbing and get wasted and stuff, but if people see you behind the DJ decks, I am out at night and I am in that environment.
	And so I think that, you know, a lot of you don't exactly find like great men in a nightclub listening to hip-hop and RB.
	And so I think I'm kind of sometimes like pushed into that category of the like party girl when I'm not really.
	I'm just the DJ, if that makes sense.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Good time.
	By the way, guys, it was a pleasure meeting all of you.
	Gotta get out of here this evening.
	I enjoyed the conversations back and forth.
	I never hold any ill will or bad blood towards anybody.
	I know that the panels can get contentious, but that's part of having conversations is that you have contention.
	So I was happy to talk to everybody, and I hope all of you have a wonderful evening.
	Pleasure to meet you.
	Nice to meet you.
	Thank you for tuning in, Andrew.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Have a good night.
	Have a good night.
	I have to carve.
	Salute.
	All right.
	You can hide that on Discord.
	We'll probably hide it also on the center Zoom, too.
	If you want to just grab that.
	Okay, hide it there.
	Yep.
	All right.
	So getting into Anya's notes, Anya, I know this, you have a God tattoo on your side.
	Yeah.
	What does it say?
	It's not an actual, it's not like in the Bible or anything.
	It's the serenity prayer from AA.
	God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
	It was mainly to, I don't want to get too deep into it, but to it's in AA, and it means a lot to my family and means a lot to me.
	I struggled a little bit with addiction in my own life.
	And even though like I can still drink here and there, I choose not to use any illicit substances.
	But I still think it's a great prayer to kind of use in your daily life.
	I literally have that in like in my room.
	I have this glass thing and it sits there and it says the same exact, it's literally the exact same prayer.
	Yeah.
	And it has a rose on it and it literally sits right there.
	And I was just looking at it literally yesterday.
	I was like, I've had this for so long.
	It just follows me.
	And that's really cool that you have that too.
	That's freaking.
	It was actually the first tattoo I ever got.
	It was something ever since I heard it.
	I carried it with me through my entire life.
	That's beautiful.
	I love that.
	And but you're not Christian.
	Somewhat half and half.
	Somewhat half and half.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And hold on one sec.
	So do you do you believe in God?
	I do.
	Yeah.
	So related to your OnlyFans then and being involved in sex work, and you do have that tattoo.
	And you do say you're pretty conservative and so forth.
	Do you think God wants you to do porn?
	No.
	Okay.
	What do you think Satan wants you to do?
	I don't think it's necessarily something Satan.
	I mean, maybe, but I think it's going back to what I said before.
	I think I understand that there's definitely a lot of bad about it.
	I don't think I'm doing charity work.
	But I also think that I'm setting my life up in a way where my children are never going to have to worry about, oh, their mom's at a nine to five.
	Mom can't come to my soccer game.
	Mom can't do this.
	Mom can actually spend time with me and provide me with everything I need.
	And she's actually going to instill, I mean, I know this is rich coming from you, but instill some kind of morals into me.
	And I'm, yeah.
	Well, I'll respond to that really quickly.
	Thank you, Andrew, for the raid.
	Crucible crew.
	Welcome.
	Welcome, welcome.
	By the way, really quick, as you guys are joining us, we've lowered the TTS to, it's going to now be a $69 TTS.
	I'm going to let some chats come through in just a moment.
	$69 TTS.
	Let's get those roasts in if you want to roast me.
	You want to roast anybody on the panel.
	$69 TTS.
	Well, I guess my question is, though, is you said, well, I understand that OnlyFans can be very lucrative.
	You can make a lot of money.
	But it seems like you're going, you believe in God.
	But you don't want to take on the title of Christian.
	Is that correct?
	So I was actually raised Russian Orthodox, which, if anybody in the audience knows Russian Orthodoxy, it's the strictest and most harsh form of Orthodoxy.
	So me and my mom both actually left that denomination.
	And not to speak for my mom, but for myself, I've been slowly trying to rebuild a relationship with God.
	And I'm kind of letting that build as a relationship.
	I don't think I'm educated enough or practicing enough to actually label myself a Christian because I think that actually takes on a big role.
	So yeah.
	I mean, look, Andrew's probably better suited for this conversation than I am, but there is a Bible verse that I think he often cites that I find kind of compelling.
	In this case, again, it's not totally clear if you actually consider yourself a Christian.
	You say you believe in God.
	It's Matthew 16, 26.
	For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?
	And you said, well, you're doing OnlyFans so that you can amass a significant amount of money that you perhaps otherwise wouldn't be.
	It's for my children.
	Not that I have children now, but I would sell my soul for my children.
	You would sell your soul for your children?
	Yeah.
	For them to have a good life, I would do it.
	That would actually be an interesting conversation for Andrew.
	Like what you do.
	I would die.
	If I had children, I would die for my children.
	I would sell my soul for my children.
	You would die for your children.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	Also, this is coming from somebody who doesn't have children yet.
	So let's take this with a grain of salt.
	I'm curious what the chat thinks.
	And I know there's a lot of, you know, we have a lot of religious viewers, a lot of Christian viewers.
	If it meant protecting your children, well, hold on.
	You're kind of sneaking something in there.
	But if it was the case that in order to save your children, this is a ridiculous hypothetical.
	In order to somehow save the life of your children, you had to become an OF strumpet.
	I know there's a lot of men out there.
	You men have to become OF man whores, I guess.
	Would you do it?
	And would this be in contravention of the Christian faith?
	But the thing is, though, is that plenty of people are capable of providing for children, absent doing sex work.
	I agree.
	I think it's a lot harder nowadays.
	I think that's why you have a big financial crisis going on in the U.S.
	And a lot of people aren't having children.
	Our birth rates are significantly declining to the point where we're below a replacement rate.
	And I don't want to contribute to that.
	I actually want to have children.
	And you've heard people around this table say, hey, like, it's impossible to raise children in California for financial reasons.
	You're in Florida, though.
	Right.
	I live in Florida.
	It's completely different.
	Also, Florida is getting so expensive.
	But cost of living is still extremely high.
	And the market is there.
	I was already getting eschewalized all the time, my entire life.
	And I thought, hey, if it's going to happen anyway, I might as well make a profit out of it and at least set myself up for something in the future.
	And Andrew said something that was interesting to me: that we're kind of going in the cycle where we don't understand what's coming next, like what the second wave of this is going to be for us.
	I totally understand.
	I understand that even now, not even, I'm less than a year in.
	And there's definitely part of my psyche and part of a mental health aspect of it that's definitely hurt and definitely affected.
	I already know these effects.
	I've spoken to other people where I can understand the effects.
	But I'm willing to take on the effects to have a future where my children don't have to worry about those things.
	But couldn't you have chosen like any other job?
	Yeah, I could have, but again, the money versus the time spent into it, the time that I can spend with my children.
	You don't have your children yet.
	You could become a lawyer and you can make way more money than an only fan.
	Well, I cheat.
	Well, sorry, I don't know how much money you make, but you could do that and then you could have your children and then your children would look up to you and you'd still be able to support them.
	School will be better in the long school.
	Yeah.
	I'm honestly so against college.
	I don't even want to have the argument about college.
	And what about an electrician?
	No, I totally agree.
	But I'm not going to get into how much money I make, but that's why I went into this saying I'm either going to go all the way in or I'm going to go all the way.
	I'm not going to half-ass it.
	What do the, we got an Orthodox Christian here.
	What do you think?
	You want to weigh in?
	I totally respect your preference and everything and your desire to, you know, make a living for your kids in the future.
	That's great.
	My question is, as an immigrant yourself, you know, what would you say?
	First generation?
	Yeah, like as, yeah, but like you have like an immigrant background.
	What would you say to all those other countries in the world that are less privileged than the United States?
	What would you say to those families and mothers who are trying to make a living for their kids?
	In terms of what?
	And how you're like, oh, it's like it's this is the easy way out.
	Oh, I'm not saying that.
	Let me clarify that real quick.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I'm not advocating this for everybody.
	I never said that.
	I will not advocate.
	Like, I've had many, many, many people come up to me, mostly like girlfriends that I have in my past, people just randomly that I'll meet that know that I do it.
	I always say, I say, unless you're willing to know that your brother, your dad, your grandparents, your children, everyone is going to see your work.
	Unless you know that that's going, like you're ready for that to happen, don't do it.
	Unless you're ready for everyone to know you as an ass worker, like don't do it.
	This is not, and also if you're going to go all the way in this, it's hard work.
	I'm not saying it's as hard as being a doctor or being a lawyer or anything like that.
	Please don't get me wrong.
	But I'm saying there are hours that people don't see in the back of it.
	Like I easily put in 65 to 75 hours of work in every different aspect of it every week.
	So it's definitely hard work.
	It's not the easy way out.
	Yeah, and you still have to deal with like the backlash and all that stuff too.
	It gets even harder because it's like you have to deal with all that.
	I would never advocate this for 99% of people that I meet.
	No.
	And what I can say as a mother, right, I understand what you're saying because I did go to school, right?
	I went to two different schools to get two different educations.
	And I did make decent money.
	My husband made decent money, but we were still riddled in debt.
	It was so hard to put the amount of groceries that needed to be put on the table, the bills being paid, and provide the life that we really wanted to provide for our children.
	Since I've been doing OF, I get way more quality time with my family.
	We go on great family vacations together and I can afford to be like, hey guys, guess what?
	We're going to Hawaii for seven days in a great location.
	I'm able, I am debt-free.
	My lifetime of debt is paid off.
	So I do understand that.
	And I understand, you know, and I understand, like you're saying, that this, you know, I don't know if what we're doing is right or not, but I do know that this has provided a lifestyle for my family that even when I went to school and worked my booty off, that I could not get to my house.
	Everyone's gonna argue that it's we're saying that we can buy things for our children.
	We can buy vacations.
	That's not what we're saying.
	It's it's the time spent.
	Most parents, like all right, I'm done listening to the cope.
	I'm sorry.
	You guys are just rambling on about this.
	I'll just repeat it one more time, then I'm gonna move it on.
	For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?
	We have some super chats here.
	KZA.
	So, chair one: no kid wants to know their dads had happy times with other dads, just like they don't want to know their moms were spread as wide as the Grand Canyon.
	How can you wait?
	Did you hide?
	It was a duplicate.
	Okay, we should have.
	Well, how can you possibly say you would do this for free and want to have a family in the same breath?
	Zach, thank you for the super chat.
	Just FYI with super chats and Streamlabs messages.
	They don't get pulled up right away.
	I think you sent this in at 10.04.
	It's 10:24.
	They get batched typically at 30 to 60 minutes.
	But I saw you sent in a duplicate.
	It's not that we missed it.
	We were just waiting to pull it up.
	So thank you, Zach.
	Do you want to do a quick response to Zach here?
	Yeah, I don't necessarily know what the second part has to relate to each other.
	Definitely not been spread as wide as the Grand Canyon.
	But I don't understand why it's hypocritical for me to say that I'll do this for free, but also want to have a family.
	I think Kizzy's saying that you're doing it so you can provide for your kids at the same time.
	Maybe it's just the cascading downstream consequences of being involved in OnlyFans when it comes to your own mental health, the desirability of yourself as it relates to men.
	Most men are going to at least look, I'm not saying all men are going to not want to date you because you are or were involved in OnlyFans, but it is going to close the door for a certain caliber of men.
	And then in addition to that, there's like the downstream ramifications as it relates to your future children.
	It is going to probably result, you are going to have to parse the whole potential bullying thing.
	That's a factor there, too.
	So, so what I was going to say is the exact same thing that I said before: the workload.
	So, if I would have done it for free, I would not be putting in that same mentality of I'm going to go all the way in or I'm going to go all the way out.
	If I was doing it for free, which I said I would, I would not be posting a million times on Reels, a million times on TikTok, a million times on Facebook promoting.
	MAGA Ramble, Annia, I've seen your numbers.
	You can retire right now and our kids will be pampered.
	We don't need more money.
	This is your boyfriend or something.
	No, I have no clue who this is.
	MAGA Rombe.
	All right.
	You got to pay the SIM tax.
	He's got to pay the symptoms.
	Send in another super chat.
	Guys, go use Streamlabs.
	Streamlabs.com slash whatever.
	Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	I should have given, I almost always give priority to Streamlabs, but thank you for sharing that.
	Appreciate it.
	Pasty George donated $100.
	Yeah, thank you, Pasty George.
	Underscore math proves that men have a much lower body count than women, using available statistics and charts to demonstrate this.
	Nowadays, it's just a fact that many women sleep around more than men.
	Thank you, Pacey George.
	This came in a while ago.
	Thank you.
	That was when we were talking about the whole body count conversation.
	Ho Math, great channel.
	We've had him on the show before.
	Be sure to check him out.
	Thank you, Pasty George.
	We have Dill Pickles.
	Chef Dill Pickles donated $100.
	Thank you, man.
	How many women at the table would marry a man that took another man through his back door?
	Did he was it just show of hands?
	Would you marry a dude?
	Your husband didn't, though, right?
	No.
	Okay, just checking.
	Just checking.
	I've slept with buy men.
	I think it's hot.
	Okay.
	That's my opinion.
	Cool, cool.
	I love that for you.
	Okay.
	Chef Dill Pickles.
	Chef Dill Pickles donated $100.
	Thank you, brother.
	X-RB's worker.
	Among the absolute plethora of men you've invited into yourself, what was the most popular male name?
	Well, I was.
	Who was working at Arby's?
	That was you?
	That was me.
	I was working at Arby's when I was 14.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	So.
	What was the most popular male name?
	For long.
	Were there a couple like Jacobs or Bartholomew's or like overall names?
	Cornelius or Cornelius?
	I like that.
	Can we go with that?
	I have no idea.
	I didn't collect names in front of me.
	Like, oh, look at there's 13 Georges and 14.
	Oh, my God.
	That's my dog's name.
	Yeah.
	No, Benjamin.
	I've never slept with a Benjamin.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have Chaw.
	Chaw coming in.
	Guys, $69 TTS.
	Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	Chair One's arguments are ones we've heard 1,000 times.
	It makes no sense, though.
	In the pursuit of money and the traditional family, you're doing the exact thing that damages your chances of getting it.
	I think it's already really hard to get it, but it's hard out here.
	It is.
	I think it's definitely going to be difficult, just as it would be if I didn't.
	But I think I offer enough in my personal life to a man that it would make it worth it.
	But let's be honest.
	On a scale of one to 10, how crazy are you?
	I mean, honestly, I'd probably say a four or five.
	Four or five?
	Maybe four.
	Do you have any diagnoses?
	No.
	Nothing.
	BPD, bipolar?
	When I was like 12, I had a doctor tell me I had anxiety and depression, but not anymore.
	No, I don't care about that stuff.
	We've all probably.
	Okay.
	We could ask hundreds of women outside and they'll all say yes.
	Yeah, I used to take antidepressants, too.
	I have ADHD.
	The women SSRI epidemic.
	Would any of your ex-boyfriends?
	Oh, well, you haven't really.
	Would any of the ex-guys you've dealt with, not necessarily boyfriends, and you might disagree with them, would any of them, have you ever been called crazy by a guy?
	Actually, no.
	And if I called them up right now, they'd be like, I mean, yeah, we had kind of a rough breakup.
	We had a kind of a rough breakup, but any of them, if they still texted me right now, or if I texted them, we wouldn't be like, oh, I hate you.
	I hate you.
	We're like, hey, you okay?
	I'm good.
	What kind of music is in that kind of notice of her?
	All right.
	Okay.
	Look, I don't know if it's even appropriate for me to go there.
	Can I go there?
	Go wherever you want.
	I can go wherever I want.
	Whoa, calm down, Nanya.
	All right.
	Relax.
	That's a little kinky.
	I noticed, and you don't hide it, so I feel like it's kind of fair game.
	And I'm going to try to be as polite about it as possible.
	I was looking at your Instagram.
	I noticed that you have markings on your legs.
	Yes.
	Is it okay if we talk about this?
	I don't want to say that.
	Go on ahead.
	I'm not comfortable with it.
	Go on ahead.
	Okay, so these were self-inflicted markings.
	Yes.
	A lot of them.
	Yes.
	Was this associated with an episode of something?
	Yes.
	With drug use or what?
	Okay.
	It was one particular incident that happened when I was 12.
	That was like a family situation.
	It was an accumulation of a few different traumatic incidences.
	I took it out in that manner and I shouldn't have, but that was like a limited episode that was not ongoing, really.
	It was just when you were younger.
	It was ongoing for like a couple months, but it was very minor.
	And then it was one day where it was just like all most of them.
	South Harm, not someone else did it.
	Yeah.
	Okay, sorry.
	It was like most of them.
	And then I never did it again after.
	Were you like, did you see a doctor about that?
	Or, I mean, yeah.
	Did they give you a diagnosis?
	Honestly, because of all the other traumatic incidences that were happening that led to that, that was the one that diagnosed me with anxiety and depression.
	They put me on SSRIs.
	I was on SSRIs for like a year or two.
	And I realized that they were horrible for development and horrible for me and got off of them.
	And yeah.
	Well, I'm sorry to hear that you went through a difficult experience when you were younger.
	And I'm glad to hear that you over, it sounds like you overcame.
	And that was an episode that's in the past.
	So wait, we have some other chats coming through.
	We have Brad here.
	Big Brad.
	Oh, wait.
	Is it?
	Sorry.
	Oh my God.
	Streamlabs.
	There we go.
	Brad donated $70.
	A man will see the value in you as how you conduct yourself.
	Doing of reduces your value, and the man you want will not commit to you.
	Men care about your past as women care about the man's future.
	That's fiery-wise.
	Got lost.
	Yo, Brad, thank you for the message, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have well put, Brad.
	Well put.
	Chef Dill Pickles.
	Chef Dill Pickles donated $60.
	She's had the meats.
	Bum, bum, bum, bum.
	He's talking about the RB thing.
	What's her name back there has an Arby show?
	Can you, like, just kind of tilt yourself?
	Are you the scary doll?
	I don't know if that worked.
	Oh, yeah, she's sporting.
	That's my girl.
	She doesn't get just like tilt.
	Tilt.
	No, tilt that way.
	Tilt that.
	Yeah.
	Boom.
	She's got fucking Ashley.
	Her name's Ashley.
	She has an Arby's.
	She worked at Arby's before she became a whatever podcast enjoyer, I guess.
	Okay.
	We have MAGA Ramble.
	Thank you for the soup chat, man.
	No taxation without simpresentation.
	Damn, bro.
	Are you doing it on the YouTube app too?
	You realize if you say, because if this is how you tell, if it's $99.99, it means you're using the YouTube app.
	YouTube takes 30%.
	Apple takes 30% because you're doing it on the probably the YouTube app.
	They're taking $49 of this?
	They're taking more than half, bruv.
	They're taking more than half.
	She didn't even, bruv, bro.
	She didn't even hear English now, Brian.
	Get this little paper thing on the table.
	Get that out of here.
	You didn't even look at it the entire show.
	Throw that.
	Throw that shit out.
	Get rid of it, bruv.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Appreciate it, MAGA, MAGA Ramba, Ramba?
	Bruv.
	Bruv.
	Guys, $69 TTS, $69 TTS.
	Get him in.
	Get him in.
	Okay, so as far as the rest of the notes, going back to Anya, finishing yours up, you said you're very conservative and you're selective with dating.
	Two of your exes turned out to be gay and one ended up becoming a trans.
	Damn.
	Oh my good girl.
	You have been through it.
	You have been through it.
	Yeah, I really do.
	Shit.
	Yeah, so the one who transitioned was actually the long, like the long, long-term relationship one.
	And to be fair, I was not conservative at the time.
	I was very like lefty.
	So that kind of chalks up to that.
	But he just recently transitioned.
	But the two that are gay, they're not out.
	So it was instances where one of them, I found him on Grindr.
	I found Grindr.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, Excuse me?
	Why would you hold on?
	You went on the market.
	I wasn't on Grinder.
	I was on his, I saw on his, he got a notification.
	That was a Grindr notification.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought that was.
	That's how you found out.
	No, We were like in his bedroom, and he gets a notification.
	It's a grinder notification.
	I was like, oh, that's strange.
	And then a couple things started adding up, and I was like, oh, this makes sense.
	And then the other guy, yeah, I'm not revealing any personal information, but he always wants, like, you know, sometimes you don't want to have schmecks, so you just kind of talk, you know, whatever.
	He would want me to talk about other men and particularly men that I knew.
	And I was like, oh, that's odd.
	I didn't really respect myself at the time.
	And then finally got a brain.
	So during sex.
	Not during sex.
	Like, if I didn't want to have sex, but if he wanted to get off, and I was just like, okay, I'll talk you through it.
	Oh, goodness me.
	So wait, it was like a J-O-I?
	Yeah.
	He would want me to help him fantasize about his, about males.
	And then I was like, oh.
	Oh, yeah, Okay.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	And you did it?
	Yeah.
	And then now one of them, you said, transitioned.
	Yes, that was the long-term one.
	I was a lefty then.
	Okay.
	You said you're very passionate, or wait, hold on.
	Skipping that one.
	You said women rarely go for the good guy, but that, the one that's going to be an instant high and not a gradual buildup.
	We should also return to a more traditional setup for relationships.
	Yeah.
	Don't you think a more traditional setup for relationships would include you not posting your butthole on the internet?
	I agree.
	A little traditional.
	I agree.
	Are there, here, let me ask you: are there pictures of your butthole on the internet?
	Yes.
	It's very traditional of you.
	Look at, I've got a great conservative here.
	Where's the MAGA hat?
	I was going to bring mine, but hell yeah.
	You said no hats.
	You said no hats on the pre-shot.
	Should we ask Andrew if that's hypocritical?
	What is?
	If that's hypocritical.
	What's a traditional relationship, but then it's a fucking shitty Chinese one or something.
	No, I got a real one.
	Yeah.
	I need Charlie Kirk to hook me up with some MAGA hats.
	I got one from Charlie.
	Oh, yeah?
	Did you do one of his TPUSAs?
	I didn't go to an event, no.
	You went up to the microphone and be like, hey, Charlie.
	I would just be like, I love you.
	I guess.
	But I want you to look into this camera right here.
	This one right here.
	And I want you to say, I voted for Donald Trump, Make America Great Again, BTW.
	I post butthole pictures on the internet.
	I voted for Donald Trump, MAGA.
	I post B-hole pictures on the internet.
	All right, based and submissive housewife.
	There you go.
	She did it at least.
	I'll take the hat back.
	Thank you.
	That was great.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Let's see here.
	Conservative, though?
	Okay, you vote more conservative, I guess.
	Okay, so it's not even that I vote conservative.
	Let's literally take just let's let's put OF aside for literally two seconds.
	Um, I generally believe that for most women, I think the best place is to be at home with children away from the workplace.
	I think that um yeah, I think that that's kind of the best setup.
	Um, shoot, I was leaving my train of thought.
	Just well, you're just talking also, we should also return to a more traditional setup again.
	This is just confusing for me.
	You're posting some crazy shit on your Instagram, fucking legs spread and shit.
	That shit's crazy, son.
	How are you gonna be like, oh, traditional, but like, hey, boyfriend, can you take a video of me doing like a hago face or whatever the fuck?
	Well, because the boyfriend is okay, Felicity.
	The boyfriend comes home.
	He has his meal cooked already at five o'clock, six o'clock.
	It's warm.
	It's ready for him there.
	His clothes is ready the next morning.
	It's no problem.
	The house is clean.
	Everything's taken care of.
	He's never going to have to worry about it.
	But there's like a glaring elephant in the room here.
	Yeah.
	A giant dildo in the room.
	I understand.
	You post butthole pictures on the internet.
	I totally understand.
	And you know, the thing is, like, Anya, you're, you know, probably, maybe you could have got the guy.
	You could have got the, like, the guy who you could have got that.
	I could get a lot of people.
	Why am I doing the fucking trump hands?
	The past few weeks.
	I've been doing a lot of trumpets.
	I could get it right now if I wanted to.
	I know, like.
	You're going to get like a, get what?
	I know that there's men.
	I can think of like a couple men particularly in my life.
	No, no.
	In my personal life that I know that are very traditional, that are okay with my traditional values and are traditional themselves that are accepting of this.
	That are ready for that life.
	Anyways.
	I know that I can because I.
	Yeah.
	Faucio.
	I'm not going to linger on the porn bad thing because we talked about that forever earlier.
	Okay, so we have some more chats coming through.
	We have, oh, wait.
	Hi, Bras Laman.
	Chair Seven, Marry Me Yesterday for Christ's sake, only sane woman, Harry Balls on you.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm good.
	Thank you.
	Ooh, Harry Balls on you.
	Rejected.
	Ooh, by the way, she's got a boyfriend, bro.
	You gotta, you can't be hitting on a girl who's got dating a guy for three years.
	Thank you for seeing, you know.
	That's a nice compliment.
	You know, our homegirl here, she's single.
	What's up?
	Show her some love.
	Hairy balls on you.
	Would you date?
	Would you go for Harry Balls on you?
	I don't know a hint man or know what he looks like, so maybe.
	He's clearly hairy.
	What if he's like the most attractive man in the world, but his balls are also the hairiest?
	I would go for it.
	Like, I'm talking foot-long ball hair.
	Dangling.
	Dangling to the floor.
	I think that's a deal breaker.
	No, you can't.
	You know how like when your nails grow really long, like you can't cut shit.
	Could I braid it?
	It's the same with ball hair.
	That shit gets too long.
	You got to go under anesthesia.
	Can I braid it?
	No.
	Unacceptable.
	All right.
	Why?
	$69, guys.
	$69 TTS.
	Get him in.
	We have some more.
	Sons of Liberty, this guy.
	My God.
	Thank you.
	Sons of Liberty donated $69.
	Thank you, brother.
	Virtue, morality, boundaries, foreign concepts to these women.
	The Nuremberg trials concluded the end does not justify the means, but to these women they do.
	Degenerates.
	Degenerates.
	So many degenerates at this table.
	Thank you very much.
	Very many degenerates.
	It's just crazy.
	Thank you, Sons of Liberty.
	How do you guys feel about it?
	Do you guys take ownership of the degenerate title?
	Chloe, looking to you.
	I don't even.
	I'm gonna sound like a dumb blonde, but I don't know what that means.
	Degenerate.
	I'm gonna Google it.
	It means like a low life.
	Having lost the physical, mental, and moral qualities considered normal and desirable.
	No.
	Or an immoral or corrupt person.
	I don't think I'm a degenerate.
	I did that one bad thing with the cheating, but other than that, I'm not a degenerate.
	I'm definitely not.
	When's the last time you smoked some crack?
	Oh, God.
	Oh, God.
	I'm joking.
	I've never smoked some crack.
	I swear in my life.
	You're a fucking liar.
	What?
	Do I look like a crackhead?
	Is that scouse, by the way?
	You're a fucking liar.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, no, that was quite scouse.
	No, I've never, never, ever smoked crack.
	That's just, I don't want that.
	Can you do the Queen's English?
	Talk like the Queen.
	Yes.
	It is a bit rather ridiculous that we put a sundial underneath a tree.
	I have to admit.
	That's the best I can do.
	Wow.
	That was.
	Let me say how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've dined.
	Where do you get these?
	Rest in peace, Christopher Hitchens.
	Okay, that was great.
	We have.
	Thank you, Sons of Liberty.
	We have Pasty George.
	Boom.
	Thank you, Pasty George.
	Pasty George donated $70.
	Thank you, Brian.
	I've noticed that more and more young women nowadays have old cut scars on their arms, legs, and other parts of their bodies.
	What is wrong with today's women?
	I feel like, honestly, so is it about today's women, but it says from the past.
	It says old cut.
	So how can that be today's women if it's from the past?
	Oh, shit, Pasty George.
	Just fucking, she just lawyered your ass.
	Fucking lawyered Pasty George.
	Boop, boop, boop.
	No, you scarce.
	But like, actually, I would say that every generation of young women has had their vice.
	So I would say right before my generation, I would say it was EDs.
	So EDs were the vice of young girls.
	And you don't really notice those on most women because either they've recovered or they've other things.
	But they're not as noticeable of a past.
	And then I would say self-harming was more of a fad during my era.
	And it was one of those things where it's like, okay, you I need to feel better.
	How do I do it?
	I feel like nowadays, like people don't even do that as often.
	Like at least like, cause I have a lot of like little cousins and stuff like that.
	And I feel like at their age, like I was doing those things.
	And so the fact that they're all like, nah, that's like lame.
	Like they literally say stuff like that nowadays.
	But before it was kind of like an actual big thing, like everybody was doing it.
	It's like it was like a trend in a way.
	Yeah.
	But like everyone wanted to be a sad girl, you know?
	Like all that stuff.
	I think you're going to be able to do it.
	Dean Bronson donated $69.
	Thank you, Dean Brunson.
	The young blonde lady in all red is lovely.
	I'm weird, so it's easy to not care.
	Can I know the lady's name?
	I'm Chloe Yummy.
	Thank you.
	That was really sweet.
	And I'm Brian Atlanta Rose.
	Is your voice actually that high pitched, or do you put it on, Chloe?
	Be honest.
	Be honest, Chloe.
	I have a really high voice naturally.
	Like, my dad even sounds like a woman on the phone.
	But I definitely like put it on a lot and on my Instagram.
	And like for OLAF, like I can really do baby, but like a lot of guys like that, but I know like you love it or hate it.
	I think it's adorable.
	I just wanted to know if it was real.
	Like, yeah, it is real, but I can make it like go really high.
	Go and do baby voice.
	God.
	Come on.
	Um.
	Hello.
	Shy, Chloe.
	I'm shy.
	Hi, Chloe.
	How are you today?
	What the fuck?
	It sounded crazy with the British accent and the baby voice.
	I was like, wait, do it.
	Ew, Daddy, please.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Please follow me on Instagram, please.
	Chloe, yummy X, please follow me.
	Oh my gosh, your baby voice is sexual.
	Why did you make it sexual?
	I don't know.
	It is a sexual.
	Wait, I have something for this one.
	I'm so nervous.
	I'm going to pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft.
	What the fuck?
	I'm going to child that.
	I don't like you.
	I try not to do it.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Now I'm embarrassed.
	No, it's my fault.
	I made you do it.
	Say, no, no, babe.
	Sorry.
	I'll stop.
	I'll stop.
	I just had to hear it.
	What's he doing here?
	Proper naughty one.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, having a giggle, mate.
	Boy, bruv.
	Pass the tea, yeah?
	All right, okay, okay.
	Chill out.
	I'm really sorry.
	I apologize.
	When can we get out of here so I can go and have a pint?
	We have Blafest.
	Clever.
	Blah Fest donated $70.
	I keep getting distracted by her TTS.
	I get it.
	That's funny because he's doing a TTS.
	I didn't get it.
	It was good.
	$69 TTS.
	Guys, we're going to get back to the convo though.
	We have one more coming in.
	Thank you, Blafest.
	And then Pasty sent one in.
	There it is.
	Pasty.
	Pasty George donated $70 to George.
	Therefore, it takes between 12 and 18 months for a wound to form into a scar.
	Please stop trying to think.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, but you're saying in the past.
	So like in the past, like 12 to 18.
	I haven't done that in 12 to 18 months.
	That was probably like seven years ago.
	Oh my god, who the hell cares?
	Like seven years ago is different from 18.
	Like obviously I hope to God no one's or I, you know, I hope that no one's freaking at my age self-harming themselves.
	Like I feel like that's like you need to be in a like mental right.
	Like that's just not okay.
	Like those people obviously have mental issues.
	Yes.
	Like when I'm younger, it's different.
	Like I was like 13 years old, like young and depressed.
	Like I'm not doing that now.
	Yeah.
	Yes, yes.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So getting into the questionnaire, honestly, you guys are pretty tame on the questionnaire here.
	We're going to go to Annabelle.
	Annabelle, you said that men are more privileged in society than women.
	Why is that, Annabelle?
	Did I click that?
	Or well, you agree with the statement?
	Yeah, you said, so the statement is men are more privileged in society than women.
	You agree with the statement?
	I think I might have clicked the wrong thing because actually I disagree.
	I think because men have to be like if there's a war, they have to, they're the ones who have to go out and do the fighting.
	So they're actually going, I think I just clicked the wrong button.
	Sorry.
	Right.
	Right here.
	Right here.
	You okay?
	You also said a woman should not be rejected because of her weight.
	No, see, I've done it the wrong way around.
	My goodness, Annabelle.
	I know.
	That degree in Latin really got me far.
	You've done proper...
	This girl.
	Fucking A. Sorry.
	Didn't I say to you, Tell me?
	I was like, I'm confused.
	How's this?
	Galley wagon.
	I think I did the same thing.
	Yeah, yeah, I got confused.
	Oh, God.
	How embarrassing.
	It says circle.
	Yeah, it says circle the ones that you agree with on the top.
	I'm a little bit autistic and I have ADHD.
	You're autistic?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Why didn't you tell me earlier?
	That explains everything.
	It does, doesn't it?
	I totally get that from you.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Oh, my God.
	Thank you, Annabelle.
	Wait, I think you hurt her feelings.
	What?
	I just found out like a week ago.
	Wait, why are you?
	Are you crying?
	Wait, no, it's just a bit of a bit weird to be diagnosed with autism.
	It's not really everyone's dream, is it?
	I don't think you can.
	Everybody at this table is definitely God's.
	That's very normal.
	Yeah, you.
	I have ADHD as well, so I'm just like a melting pot of disastrous mental health issues.
	I have ADHD too.
	We'll talk sometimes.
	That's why I've been doing like this.
	I'm like trying not to make a noise.
	It's been noisy.
	Okay.
	So that's why I clicked the wrong thing, cycled the wrong thing.
	Okay, sorry.
	Well, then, here, let's go to this.
	You said that wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	Do you agree with that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Crystal, you also agree that it's wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down.
	And then Pearl, you also said wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly.
	So I feel like they could have a conversation, and if they're not on the same page, they can just part ways instead of just dumping.
	This is part of a healthy relationship, isn't it?
	But wouldn't that be?
	I mean, I assume, I assume that there's some conversations.
	Maybe I missed it.
	Here's the conversation.
	The guy's trying to have sex with her.
	She doesn't want to.
	They don't have sex.
	She should want to have sex with him.
	It's probably a mistake on my end because English isn't my first language.
	No, I apologize.
	Well, if that's your position, though, that's I'm not, that's fine.
	No, but based off of you clarifying it, then I do understand what you mean.
	But you're a Christian, right?
	Don't you believe, like, as a Christian, that both the husband and the wife owe their body to each other?
	No, because everyone's situation is different.
	Just because I believe something that doesn't mean another.
	No, but within your worldview, within your relationship.
	No, it's okay.
	I don't, I'm not like a hardcore believer of like, oh, they need to remain together.
	You know, I'm open enough to.
	But you're, are you, you're okay with divorce?
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Like, that's okay.
	The woman is just, there's no abuse, no infidelity.
	She's just like vaguely unhappy and wants to go fuck other dudes.
	Is that grounds for divorce?
	If two people are not happy with each other, I think yes.
	Is that what your faith prescribes?
	It has nothing to do with my faith.
	It's reality.
	Anything could happen.
	Two people can be.
	Well, yeah, I understand that secular people can get a no-fault divorce.
	I'm asking, I'm assuming I'm not a hardcore like Christian.
	That's the thing.
	I believe you said you're Orthodox.
	I do, but I'm not like.
	Hardcore Christian.
	I know, but I'm not like a fully practicing person.
	I have faith, but I'm not like reading everything to the text of it.
	So what?
	Hold on.
	So what do you disagree with God's word?
	What do you disagree about God's Word?
	I don't disagree with anything.
	You said you don't follow the text.
	So what texts as it relates to the Bible or whatever do you not agree with or follow?
	I believe that everyone can have their own understanding and perception of whatever is doing.
	What do you think?
	For me, I think it depends.
	If a couple is not happy, let's say one side is not happy with the other, vice versa, whatever the context is in that relationship.
	It's okay for them to part ways.
	I'm not like...
	No, once they're married, though.
	Yeah, that's okay if they're.
	Under your worldview as a Christian.
	My understanding is under Christianity.
	Can somebody in the chat, I know we probably have some ortho bros in the chat.
	Can Orthodox Christians, if there's no abuse, the woman is just vaguely unhappy, she wants to get some new dick.
	Is she under the faith, is she permitted a divorce?
	Because I know in Catholicism, you can't get a divorce.
	I'm curious what the chat says.
	Is divorce permitted in Orthodox Christianity?
	Sorry, my chat's super delayed.
	Can you guys keep spamming the answer?
	Because my chat's going to take like 10 seconds to catch up.
	Yeah, I don't think it's permitted in any circumstance.
	But based off of my perspective, I tend to be more open-minded.
	I tend to be more secular.
	I tend to be more understanding towards differences.
	So you said you're an Orthodox Christian.
	Yeah, but I'm not like.
	You just said you're secular.
	What does that mean?
	I tend to have more secular, open-minded perspectives towards my understanding towards others.
	No, but put the others aside.
	I'm just asking about for you.
	For me, I am an open-minded person.
	So like in a scenario where two people are not happy with each other, it's okay for them to separate.
	It's okay for them to under my beliefs.
	Okay, do you have like Orthodox friends?
	No, I don't.
	I just, I think I'm a very like conservative person.
	I'm very shy.
	I'm not like super outgoing.
	So for me, there are some things that I hold, like, for example, within my morals, but it's okay.
	Like, if two people are not happy with each other, it's okay for them.
	Do you go to liturgy?
	Do you go to church on Sundays?
	No, I'm not like...
	You said you were an orthodox Christian.
	I'm not crazy.
	What does being shy?
	Wait, hold on.
	Going to church doesn't make you crazy.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm not saying going to church makes you crazy.
	All I'm saying is I don't follow everything on the book.
	Like, I'm not a...
	What are the things in which you don't follow?
	Like, for example, how you're saying, oh, it's prohibited to get a divorce.
	For me, it's okay if two people are unhappy.
	It's okay.
	Like, that's the thing.
	So if you were, let me ask you a question.
	Your husband, your current boyfriend, is he Orthodox Christian?
	No.
	Is he Christian?
	Yeah.
	But you earlier described yourself as Orthodox Christian.
	Okay, but that has nothing to do with me being an understanding individual.
	But I'm asking about your own.
	I am.
	I am.
	I get that you're fine with secular people getting divorces.
	I'm asking about you.
	For me, personally, if there was like a difference or like an altercation or an indifference between my partner and I, obviously I would want to discuss it before immediately going to separation.
	But worse comes to worse, it's okay if two individuals separate.
	It's okay.
	But okay, can you tell me what, are you an Orthodox Christian?
	Yes, but what does that have to do with my preferences?
	It goes against your beliefs.
	Wait, hold on.
	It would have everything to do with your preferences.
	I have preferences and beliefs, but that's not going to sit there and steer me away from being an open-minded, understanding person.
	It's okay.
	So you're open-minded when it benefits you.
	No, it could benefit anyone.
	No, when it benefits you.
	If it is the case, if there's an ortho bro in the chat who can clarify, I think they said that divorce is not allowed.
	Maybe there are some exceptions to if there's abuse or something like that.
	Infidelity, possibly.
	I didn't get the full details on this.
	They say marriage is indissoluble, as in it should not be broken.
	The violation of such a union perceived as holy being an offense resulting from either adultery or the prolonged absence of one of the partners.
	So like kind of abandonment, I guess.
	Let's say you got married and there was no abuse.
	He treated you well, but you were vaguely, mildly unhappy.
	Would this be grounds for you to get a divorce?
	Like I said, if there was an indifference between my partner and I, I would obviously, like, I wouldn't jump into divorce right away.
	We would talk, we would discuss, we would try to figure things out.
	But if things come to a point where we cannot continue this marriage, it's okay.
	Just because I believe in God or just because I'm a Christian or just because I'm an orthodox person.
	Then what do you believe?
	I have been telling you what I believe.
	Yes, I it's all negotiable for you.
	You think you just admitted.
	Everything in life is negotiable.
	Do you think the Bible is negotiable?
	No, of course.
	I read it.
	I practice it, but to the consent, to the point where what I believe in and what are my preferences, this is what it is.
	And what are your preferences as to the things in the Christian faith that you want to disregard?
	What do you want to disregard in the middle of the world?
	It's not me disregarding.
	I said, obviously, I wouldn't jump into the notion of divorce.
	That would be the last resort.
	If things come to the divorce.
	Your husband's there.
	He's a good father.
	He's good towards you.
	But you just maybe, I don't know.
	You're vaguely unhappy.
	Mildly unhappy.
	But there's no abuse.
	He treats you well.
	No, I wouldn't leave.
	No, I wouldn't get a divorce.
	I'm saying worse comes to worse where there are no resolutions.
	There's no, like, you know, we're not able to figure things out.
	Things get bad.
	Things get domestic.
	Like, abuse, worse comes to worse, then it would be okay because obviously at the end of the day, like, why should two people be together if they're not happy?
	Can I ask you a question?
	At least for you.
	In order for you to get a divorce, what is the lowest threshold that you would get divorced?
	Could you define that?
	What do you mean by threshold?
	Like, so it would be really clear, like, if he was beating you and there was infidelity, absolutely.
	Go get your divorce.
	But what is like the lowest relationship dynamic in your worldview that would be acceptable for a divorce to occur?
	Those would be the two exceptions for me.
	No, no, no, but that's the, that, that would be like a clear cut.
	What's the lowest threshold?
	So maybe something less than that.
	Like, what if he was like, he called you a bad name once?
	Like, he called you a bitch one time.
	No, obviously not.
	Right.
	Like, it would come.
	So the threshold, that's, that's not the threshold.
	Where's the threshold?
	It would come to the worst case scenario, infidelity or abuse.
	Well, yeah, but we could probably think of things that aren't as bad as those things where you would still get a divorce.
	I can't really think of anything.
	Those would be like ongoing verbal abuse.
	Ongoing verbal abuse.
	I would come to a point where I would try to figure things out, whether it's like counseling, whether it's therapy, like try out all my options and worse comes worse.
	You know, things are not getting better.
	He's not getting better.
	Obviously, that would be okay.
	Are you going to take your husband's last name?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Are you going to be submissive?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I feel like as females, we like, I feel like society nowadays puts females and males against each other.
	You know, like, oh, females are oppressed if they're being submissive.
	I don't think that's the case.
	I feel like we both have our advantages and disadvantages, and we shouldn't always be pinpoint against each other.
	Rather, so we should be like filling each other's holes and being like a puzzle.
	So, yes, if it comes to be the scenario, I would be a traditional wife.
	Yes, I feel like earlier when you were like, oh, I want to do only things I have morals and all that stuff.
	Like, I feel like, so you can just choose like whatever morals.
	Like, if it's like, say, like, because it's like you're Christian, you have to follow certain things, but then you can change those.
	It has nothing to do with Christianity.
	Even if I was an atheist, even if I was Jewish, I personally would not put myself in a position where I'm being vulnerable out to millions.
	It has nothing to do with religion.
	It's just my preference.
	I would not find myself coming.
	Yeah, I'm just asking.
	Yeah, I would not find myself comfortable to be in that position.
	I see, I see.
	Okay.
	I was just a bit confused.
	I don't know if you've walked back the position a little bit.
	You said that you don't strictly adhere.
	I'm not a hardcore, like, I'm not a super hardcore religious person.
	That's why whenever she asked about morality, it's not based off of a religion.
	Like, I could have been Jewish, I could have been atheist.
	That morality comes within me and how I perceive life and how I perceive things and how I put value in certain things.
	And that's just how it is.
	What are the things in the Christian faith that you, I guess, don't align with?
	I wouldn't say I don't align with specific things.
	I would say that I would read it.
	I would understand.
	I would practice.
	And I would be open to having a more understanding perspective versus someone who's religiously reading it.
	And they're like, okay, this is what it says in the Bible.
	And this is the only way I have the capability to understand another person's perspective, another religion's perspective.
	That's what I mean by I have an open-minded perspective and I'm understanding to different opinions.
	Well, going back to the prompt then, wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	There were a couple people, I think it was Annabelle.
	I don't know if that was, you accidentally survived.
	I knew I meant that.
	Okay.
	Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.
	Why is that wrong?
	I think relationships are more than that.
	Like you shouldn't, you got with your significant other because of other reasons, not because you sit together.
	But it's a very big intimacy, it is incredibly important in a relationship.
	Intimacy is incredibly important in a relationship.
	Going back to religion, that's not like the most important thing.
	Well, I'm not talking about religion.
	I'm just talking about past experiences.
	And I think that like sharing a bed together and having and being intimate together is like extremely important.
	That's kind of what love is.
	It's part of love.
	It's not everything, but it's part of it.
	It's probably part of yours.
	It's not like specifically mine.
	Okay.
	Well, good luck to you.
	To you, Boy.
	Hold on.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	What if a guy was dating a girl, and part of the reason that she got with him is because he was being a provider.
	And that was sort of her expectation laid out at the beginning of the relationship.
	And then one, two, three years later, he stops being a provider.
	And would it be wrong for her to then, and he's capable of being a provider.
	He's capable of going to work.
	He just kind of got a little bored, a little burned out.
	He, you know, you know, it's.
	That's a really good question.
	I think.
	Would it be okay for a woman to break up with no?
	It wouldn't.
	I mean, I would stay with them until they try to find something else.
	Intimacy is more sacred than money and providing, I think, when it comes to loving relationships.
	But if there's like no, like, for example, if he's just doing it for no reason, just because of choice, I feel like that it would be the right for the women to want to leave if they've been doing that and that was like the agreement.
	And then all of a sudden, like, he wants to switch it up.
	Like, I feel like that's not really fair on her.
	So if that was her choice to want to go and find that in someone else, I feel like that would be.
	I think that, you know, you should want to be sleeping with your man, you know?
	Like, that's just, if you love, if you love your husband or your boyfriend or whatever, then you should want to have sex with him.
	I agree.
	You know.
	But depending on, like, yeah, because of like religion and stuff like that, some people obviously, like, they, that isn't really a part of the relationship.
	But I do agree.
	I feel like if somebody were to, because it's their own preference.
	So if someone was like, well, you're not giving me, like, you're not having sex with me and all this stuff.
	And that's something that they really want in a relationship.
	I feel like they would have the right to be like, well, I don't want to be in this relationship and go find somebody that they could find that in, whether it's smacks or if it's, you know, money or like people like being like support or providers and things like that.
	Yeah.
	And it's oxytocin and it's bonding and it's, you know, that kind of connection.
	What's confusing to me, though, is how many women push for commitment.
	And part of commitment means he's only sleeping with you.
	You're only sleeping with him.
	If you start pulling back on the sex, you're allowed to do that.
	But I don't think we should be surprised if that man breaks up with you because you're kind of like breaking the understanding.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	If you want that man to be, you want that commitment.
	Of course.
	You should.
	You should want to have sex.
	You should.
	Yeah.
	Firstly, you should want to have sex because you like fancy him or whatever.
	Secondly, you should want to make your man happy.
	Yeah, I feel like it's not really fair for a woman to hold that over them.
	You know what I mean?
	Like if they just randomly like.
	So I agree with that statement.
	Yeah.
	You were going to come in?
	Me.
	It looked like you were leaning into it.
	Yeah, I was reading what he said.
	Oh, wow.
	That's not really related to the congo yet.
	Why did you stop having schmex with your boyfriend?
	What did we read?
	Like I said, I think it was like a wrong decision for me.
	So I'm not saying it's a wrong decision for others.
	It was just, I wish I had not done it.
	I wish I had waited.
	If that makes sense.
	That's sad.
	Nothing music.
	Look, you want to be in a relationship with the guy.
	You had sex with him.
	Was he bad in bed?
	Is that why?
	Nothing with him.
	I just think like the mental capacity, like the mental capacity that I am like processing everything, I just wish I had waited.
	Nothing to do with him.
	Oh, sure.
	To do with his thing.
	But yeah, no, I do.
	I agree that if somebody, if that's like the agreement in a relationship, and then you know, like someone, but like not saying you specifically, I'm just saying, like, for example, like just in other predicaments, you know, like I, if someone, if I wasn't having sex with someone and they wanted to leave me, and I would be like, well, that's understandable because I'm not providing what they want.
	Especially, like, you know, like how someone doesn't want to be with someone who has a high body count and stuff like that.
	It's just preferences of certain things.
	And if that's like how they want to be, then that's their choice.
	Yeah.
	And flipping it around, like, if I was in a relationship and a guy, you know, didn't want to sleep with me anymore, it would really like hurt me.
	And I wouldn't feel desired and loved anymore.
	So understandable.
	Yeah.
	Leave if he wants.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	I wouldn't feel anything.
	Yep, exactly.
	I'm just saying.
	It works both ways.
	That's a part of the topic.
	Yeah, so exactly.
	It's okay.
	Pearl's situation is different because they both have like, they both have the same, they have the same understanding.
	Yeah, it's totally different if like, you're having sex and then all of a sudden, one partner just doesn't want to sex.
	Yeah, I think that's fair and I like it hurts.
	It hurts women's egos more when, the when, when their husband or boyfriend um, doesn't want to sleep with them, like because men I mean just generalizing here I do think that men have a higher libido.
	So when a guy suddenly starts pulling back and doesn't want to have sex with you, like for girls, like it's crippling, like it really upsets us.
	Yeah, and I feel like also it could be like people then at that point you feel like people are being like unfaithful and stuff like that, because it's like why all of a sudden do you not want to have sex?
	Like there's obvious, like if you were already wanting to have sex and then now you don't want to have sex, like I feel like that's something's wrong with our smex, you know, whatever.
	Yeah, but I actually had a relationship like that was quite like that actually where the guy I was with just like sort of stopped wanting to have some sex.
	I would be like what the and it could.
	Just it made me so so so, like my self-esteem like just went completely like yeah agree, really really hurt me.
	All right, we have some chats here.
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	Where can I find the stream of the girl who couldn't pronounce misogynistic?
	Thank you for that.
	Who was that?
	That's one of our earlier episodes.
	I'm trying to remember it's um, Andrew crucified her with that.
	That was so mean.
	No, I know who's.
	It's like the girl in red the, the like Latina girl in red.
	I don't know the dating talk number.
	I know the exact one you're talking about, though.
	It was Andrew Tate.
	I remember because I watched it so many times.
	I found it quite funny.
	Yeah um, i'm not.
	Uh wait, Andrew.
	Wait what.
	I think she was talking about Andrew.
	I'm such a fan of the podcast.
	I think that the question was, how do you feel about Andrew Tate?
	And She said, I don't like him, and you said, Why?
	And then she was like, Because he's Miss Clanon and I'm missed.
	Miss Klan.
	Yeah, just and then you're like, What?
	What?
	And she said again.
	What?
	Blathis donated $70.
	King Henry VIII sorted this out and created the Anglican church.
	Divorce meant being condemned by the Pope, so he had to kill his wives to leave them when he wanted a new one.
	And the new church.
	I'm going to try to find it for you, really.
	Divorce, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.
	His six wives.
	I'm going to find it for you, sir.
	Uno memento.
	Just to be nice, I'm going to find it.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	I think it's.
	He killed, I think it was Anne of Cleves.
	He beheaded her so that he could be with Anne Boleyn.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Indeed.
	Indeed, particular.
	Wait, hold on.
	Told you I translated it.
	Oh, I got it for you, dude.
	I got you, dude.
	Dating Talk 120.
	Dating Talk 120.
	Simp paid her bills on first date.
	Yeah.
	There it is.
	Okay.
	We have Lazy Prodigy, Deus Volt.
	I'm Orthodox Christian.
	She's not Christian.
	Divorce is only for adultery, abuse, or anything equal.
	She's a liberal.
	She's not a follower of the faith.
	She picks and chooses.
	You want to respond to that?
	You spent 70 bucks to bash me and call me a liberal when I was just being understanding to different situations.
	That's not very Christian of you.
	Snap.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Lazy Prodigy.
	Are you going to let her talk to you like that, Lazy Prodigy?
	Are you going to let her?
	Spend some more of your money.
	Come on.
	First off, Lazy Prodigy here.
	This guy's a crypto.
	He's deep in crypto.
	Okay.
	I like $70.
	That's like a quarter to this guy.
	It's a penny.
	I didn't even bash anyone.
	I was literally being nice and understanding to different scenarios.
	And I said, worse comes to worse.
	You know, divorce is okay, but I guess to each their own, you could believe whatever you want.
	I'm not a liberal.
	And you can choose to think whatever you want.
	I don't really care.
	Why do women do this?
	You didn't do it, but have you ever seen?
	I've been commenting about it.
	Like all these girls on TikToks who are just man-haters.
	They do the fucking thing.
	Wait, let me zoom in on that.
	They do this, and they all got the fucking clacky nails.
	Because when you're talking, like, you want to be like, there's like, especially right when you get your nails done, you're like, they do the double.
	Are they trying to shake off that mannequin?
	No, it's not like this.
	It's like this.
	Because they're snapping at them.
	They're like, there's like, it's like a turtle.
	Oh, my God.
	I hate that shit.
	That shit bothers me.
	I know, especially right when you get your nails done, Trust.
	You just be like, below the threshold.
	I swear, like, if I'm in an argument, I do use my hands, though.
	I hate that, though, because I feel like a lot of the times, like, I don't want to be threatening people, like, if I'm arguing with them, but then I'm all like in their face, and I'm like, I would be scared too.
	But not like scared, but like, I'd be like, why is this bitch putting my hands in my face?
	Just kidding, just kidding.
	It was all right.
	Crystal, you wrote, Crystal, you said, or well, you agree with the following statement.
	Adult age gap relationships are wrong.
	I need to fix that.
	That's fucked.
	Adult-age gap relationships are wrong.
	Why is that?
	Just not a lot of common interests.
	Like, you're with somebody because you have common interests, not because they're young or because they look bitter.
	Common interests is the only reason people are with each other?
	It's the base of why people are together.
	Commonality?
	Yeah, commonality and attraction, yeah.
	Well, attraction is the first thing.
	Oh, yeah, go ahead.
	Attraction is the first thing that comes up when you meet somebody.
	But once you're with somebody, common interests are what keeps people together.
	And do you think men are more likely to find, say, women between the age of 20 to 25 more physically attractive?
	Probably, but it doesn't keep them together.
	Perhaps not necessarily, but if there is that mutual interest, mutual attraction, and you can have things in common with somebody who's younger than you, what's the actual issue, I guess?
	Probably because if an older person is dating somebody younger, it's more likely because they're young, not because of common interests.
	So, what is the ultimate thing that people go for?
	Common interests or just physical attractiveness?
	At first, attraction, but I mean, if you're dating somebody younger because they're younger at first, then most of the time doesn't last because most of the time even if it's true, so I feel like a lot of the times, like I feel like older men, like they actually are more aware of like things, like they've been through like more stuff.
	So it's kind of like more of an understanding of like what they need to provide and what they need not provide, like not that they need to provide, but as for younger men, they're going through the still like, want to be young and do all the like the things that kind of hurt you more.
	As for like the older guys, not all of them, because like I'm not saying that all older men are like that type of person, but typically they're more understanding of like the way that you act and like the reasons behind it.
	And like they've gone through like those things to like understand that.
	Like typically, I think.
	Wait, why did you say it was wrong?
	Like inherently wrong?
	Yeah, what's the argument?
	It's not inherently wrong, but I feel it's wrong because most of the time when somebody's looking for when they get with somebody younger, it's because they're young, not because, well, because they are attracted because as long as we're obviously consenting adults.
	Yeah.
	It's not wrong, but it just doesn't last long is what I'm saying.
	Well, I feel like it lasts longer because they actually are aware of what they need to do.
	As for younger men, like there are like people in that age most of the time.
	Like for example, I'm 23.
	Like a 23-year-old for me isn't going to understand what I want, especially if I'm looking for something longer term.
	Like they're not really looking for a longer term relationship.
	So older men are typically more available to wanting that.
	Like younger men are like, oh, they just want to date.
	They want to fuck around and do all this stuff.
	While for older men, a lot of the times they're like, yeah, I want to settle down.
	And it kind of gives you the understanding of that they want to, they know what they want more than younger men.
	Also, don't fact-check me on this, but I think it's either married couples or even just dating couples.
	I'm pretty sure it's married couples.
	Like age gap relationships end up working more often than closer ages.
	But don't fact-check me on that.
	I think I just talked about it.
	I think I've seen that before, though.
	But yeah, there was some statistic that was like relationships with age gaps typically actually work out more often than not.
	Yeah, I feel like it really depends on the man because it's like, you know, like, yeah, obviously there's manipulators out there and everything like that.
	But I feel like you as a woman know the way that they're acting and the way that they're treating you.
	Like off the bat, you would know if they're trying to manipulate you or if they're really just trying to find something, you know?
	And like, obviously, like being an older guy, it's nice to be attracted to you.
	Like, obviously, they're going to be attracted to like younger women.
	And a lot of the times, too, like, for example, in my own personal experiences, the older guys I've been with, the reason they don't want to be with the same aged women is because a lot of the times, like, they've lost, like, not everybody, but like, a lot of times they don't want to have fun.
	They don't know how to let loose and be like different.
	They want to have that experience still, but still be able to be loyal to them.
	And I, a lot of the times, younger girls don't know they're being manipulated.
	Just real quickly, I think I might not get the stat completely correct, but I think that I read somewhere that men reach emotional maturity by the age of 38 and women reach emotional maturity much younger.
	Yeah, so I think they could kind of, you know, that's just an argument in favor of age.
	What's like an acceptable age gap for you?
	Depends on how old they are.
	I wouldn't say like about a 20-year-old dating a 30-year-old.
	I'll say late 20s for a 20-year-old.
	Not a 30-year-old.
	I feel like when you're 30 and like electricity.
	So 29, okay?
	Probably like 27.
	Okay, 27.
	Okay, so for example, if I was, I'm 36, if I was dating a 25-year-old, is that would that be too much of an age gap?
	Probably, yeah.
	No, I feel like that's not really fair because, like, like she said, most of the time you mature around that age.
	And to be honest with you, it's like nowadays, like, so you're saying that they have to stick to that generation of people that if it's not what, like, for example, I'm an older soul.
	Like, I've always hung out with older people.
	I've never hung out with people that are normally my age group.
	So, for me, like, I wouldn't want to have to limit myself to people that aren't think the same way as me or act the same way as me over just being an age.
	I guess I see it more as like I'm dating this person because they're young, not because I have common interests or like want to perspective.
	If you had to steel man the position of men dating younger women, what would be the reasons for why men would want to date younger women?
	More attractive, uh, probably don't fight as much about like different topics, easily molded.
	I feel like younger, wait, continue birthable, um, fertility, fertility, fun, just more fun, exactly.
	That's what I said, like they want to have more exactly, like they don't want to have to deal with someone who's just going to be like very like this.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So, um, explain to me what would be the benefit to me of dating a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old.
	I would see it as like more lasting.
	Wait, like the relationship long, the relationship lasts longer.
	Wait, did you say molesting?
	No, did she not say molesting?
	I put the words together.
	Oh, more lasting.
	What?
	Yeah, more lasting.
	Okay.
	The relationships.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's not really compelling.
	I mean, you get with people to stay with them.
	I feel it is.
	Yeah, but why can't someone who's like, why can't me being 23 years old want to date someone older and want to let that last?
	Like, just because they're.
	Wouldn't they understand that?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	But if we take this, if we take this argument to its logical conclusion, if like the primary thing people are trying to do when they get into relationships is making sure that they last, which by the way, I think it's a good thing for relationships.
	Hopefully the relationship lasts forever.
	Yeah.
	But wouldn't it then be the case that if that was the primary goal, people would actively, actively date well below their league because it would somehow make sense if you really dated below your league, like this person would be lucky to be with you and they would be more likely to stay with you.
	What do you consider below your league?
	Like if you're really, really physically attractive and they're really, really ugly and they and like you have a I don't know that could be it.
	I mean, I wouldn't get with them because they're because I wouldn't be attracted to them.
	Right.
	So it always comes to down to attraction then.
	First impression is attraction.
	So and are more are men more attracted to younger women?
	Yes, and it lasts a certain amount of time, but it doesn't last forever because if that's the only reason you're staying with somebody, it doesn't divide the time.
	For me, if I'm going to be with someone, I'm going to want them.
	Like for me, like when I settle down, I want them to be older than me because I want to be able to have that, you know, understanding of like the way that because they're going to be more capable of actually being able to know what they want in a relationship because they've already gone through all of those things.
	As for like someone younger, like they're not going to know exactly what they want.
	And a lot of people like my age aren't really the mind that I have.
	Not saying I have a bigger mind than that, but I'm an old soul.
	I've always connected with older people always.
	That's just kind of how it's been.
	So I feel like that would be fair for someone just because of like, and all the times it doesn't always have to do with the, like just because they're young, that's the only reason why.
	Like some people don't even look at age.
	Like I feel like aging nothing but a number.
	You know what I mean?
	Like the Leah song.
	So for me, if someone's looking at me and they're like, oh, because they're young.
	No, they're looking at me because she has these mindsets and she's capable of all these things.
	Like they don't even look at the age.
	They're looking at the person as a whole.
	I do think as well, like girls, we like to learn things from our man, you know?
	So if a guy's a bit older, he can teach us stuff that we don't know.
	And it kind of makes you feel a little bit more safe.
	Agreed.
	Having someone who's, you know, lived longer and can handle knowledgeable.
	More experience.
	But yeah.
	I want to pose the question to you again, Crystal.
	What, in terms of the benefits, right?
	What benefit is there to me dating a 35-year-old over a 25-year-old?
	It just depends on why you're with them.
	Yeah, I'm asking you what the benefits would be.
	It doesn't matter if it's 25 or 35.
	Like, there's not going to be different benefits.
	I'm saying the older guy, if he's dating somebody because they're younger and they are physically attracted to them firsthand, and that's the only reason why they stay with them.
	It's not going to last long.
	Okay, but I don't even know how to approach this one.
	Again, though, if we all prioritize for it would last long, then people would actively seek out like partners that are less attractive than them.
	Because they wouldn't know that they want to leave them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You want them less attacked.
	They could still leave you, but it would be arguably less likely for somebody if you're dating below your league, they're less likely to break up with you.
	You still want to be attracted to them, though.
	But he's saying that as in terms of like, so what's the difference between them?
	And I also just want to be attracted to that woman that I'm with.
	And this typically happens to be like younger women are typically more physically attractive.
	Are you gonna not stay with them later when they get old then?
	No, if that's my partner, then you're gonna stay with them.
	It's not like I'm just gonna upgrade to a younger model.
	No, it's not always that that's what he's saying, that it's not always about the attractiveness.
	Like that, just because someone's young doesn't mean that that's because they're more attractive, it's just also they that person they are into.
	Like, it doesn't have to do anything with the age, it doesn't have to do with the attractiveness to them because it's it's more than just attraction when you're in a relationship, it comes down to a lot more things than that.
	So, he's basically saying that that would basically say, Oh, I'm gonna be with someone uglier just so that the relationship doesn't break.
	Basically, saying, Oh, I'm not gonna be with someone younger just because of the relationship might not last.
	He's like basically saying that it's where it doesn't make sense.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess where I get where you're coming from, but but again, I'm I still haven't really gotten the answer.
	What is the benefit if you're trying to like deter men from dating younger women because you you're against age gap relationships?
	What is the actual argument for no, don't date her, date her?
	Is it just it's like it's more she's more likely to stay with you?
	I wouldn't necessarily say that.
	I just took it as like older people looking for younger people because they're more attractive.
	That's the whole reason why I put yeah, yeah, okay.
	A 35-year-old dating a 20-year-old, you object to this, right?
	Yeah, yeah, does it give you the ick?
	Yeah, okay, um, but you even said like 35-25 have some objections there.
	Do you want to make an argument for why?
	I mean, I feel like I kind of said, Let me ask you a question: Would you have an objection with a if you had a uh time machine and there's a 35-year-old who's dating a 20-year-old, but you know you can see into the future that they're going to get married and they're going to have a good healthy relationship and they're never going to separate.
	Do you have any issues beyond just higher incidence of breakup?
	Do you have any issues with the 35-year-old dating the 20-year-old if they end up staying together for the rest of their life?
	I feel like it depends on the person because I feel older men looking for younger women have different intentions than what you're saying.
	What are their intentions to basically be more it's easier to manipulate someone who is younger than that's what I was looking for?
	But the thing is, it's easy.
	Let's let it finish.
	It's easier to manipulate.
	Expand on that basically.
	I mean, if a 35-year-old is dating a 20-year-old, he I feel like he feels he can do whatever he wants and wants.
	And what do you mean by do whatever he wants?
	What does that mean?
	Kind of, for example, maybe cheating and saying, oh, it's your fault.
	And then the girl believing, oh, it's my fault because he cheated.
	Not his fault.
	Do that of any age?
	That's what I was gonna say.
	That was what I was about to say.
	I feel like you can easily manipulate anybody at any age.
	Like, it doesn't matter.
	Like, just into for me, like, I'm I feel like I'm very like aware of certain things that I'm gonna know if someone's trying to manipulate me.
	Like, I'm not gonna just let somebody manipulate me just because I'm 23 years old.
	Like, that's not really you can fip it on its head as well and also think, you know, this man can teach me a lot that I don't already know.
	So, that's then that's a that's a beautiful thing.
	If you feel like they're manipulating you, that that's when the people would leave.
	And at the end of the day, everyone makes their own decisions.
	So if someone were to stay with the manipulation, then that is their choice.
	But typically, not everybody's just dating younger women just to manipulate them.
	Like, I feel like I wouldn't say all of them, but it's more likely for younger women to believe the older person.
	I'm not saying everybody, but some will.
	I feel like anybody, it's like people are going to like not everybody, but a lot of people like in a relationship, if someone's going to lie, like it doesn't always just have to be because they're younger.
	Like people are just like going to be like that no matter what.
	Like they're going to do that to their 35-year-old girlfriend.
	They're going to do that to their 23-year-old girlfriend if that's just the type of person that they are.
	But I guess my confusion here, you would agree that same-age relationships can be predatory and abusive, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So assuming the older individual has good intentions, do you have any objections beyond what you've already stated?
	I wouldn't say so, no.
	Okay, so long as the 35-year-old has good intentions, you're fine with him dating a 20-year-old.
	Yeah, as long as it's not based on looks.
	No, it is based on looks.
	I mean, like, if they have good intentions, yeah.
	Yeah, that's, I mean, sure, he likes other things about her too, but yeah.
	Okay.
	I just don't see it that way most of the time.
	Do you think it's predatory?
	I mean, with most, I feel like with most guys, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Most guys.
	So most guys who have a preference for younger women, it's predatory.
	What do you mean by predatory?
	I mean, seeking to take advantage of.
	I would say, yeah.
	Okay, so how are most men who have an interest in younger women, how are they seeking to take advantage of these younger adult women?
	I mean, I feel like I kind of said they are more able, I feel, to push their beliefs and have them behave the way they want them to.
	Manipulate, I think is the word you're looking for.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You think it's more likely?
	Yeah.
	It's just kind of an assertion, though.
	I don't know if I hear an argument.
	So any man you date, I could just say you're trying to take advantage of him.
	So how would it, how is it manipulative or predatory?
	It depends on their intentions.
	Their intentions are good.
	They want a long-term monogamous relationship.
	Well, then I would say, yeah, it's fine.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, if they have good intentions and they both care for each other and have common interests and all that, I don't feel that would be predatory.
	What if they have no common interest?
	I mean, why are you with them?
	Well, they have similar values, but in terms of common interests, they don't have the same hobbies.
	They don't have the same taste in music, same taste in movies, same taste in shows, same taste in food.
	I feel like.
	But she's just really, really hot.
	I mean, if they're like, say, both Christians and like maybe have one interest, yeah.
	Yeah, I wouldn't, I mean, I feel like that would work.
	So question, if I presented to you an age gap relationship, say a 35-year-old dating a 20-year-old, but there was no manipulation occurring.
	She said it, you witnessed it, it's a healthy relationship.
	Can you make an argument against that relationship?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good times, I guess.
	All right, guys, $30 TTS.
	We're going to do a row session.
	Then we're going to wrap the show.
	Okay, we got Pasty George here.
	Thank you, brother.
	Pasty.
	Pasty George donated 17.
	Pasty George.
	Pasty George, you're a baller.
	Western men have more in common with young traditional women in other countries that do not have the internet, including social media, but have access to education.
	Uh-huh.
	Thank you, Pasty George.
	That's for you, Chair 5.
	I'm kind of confused about the question.
	Would Western men have more in common with young traditional women in other countries that do not have the internet, including social media, but have access to education?
	What is access to education?
	I don't even know what men and women have in common with.
	Like, what would I have in common with a woman that would make me more into her?
	Sense of humor.
	Shared interests.
	Maybe like you guys like the same type of, like you guys are kind of like the type of people that want to be motivated to do things.
	Like you both have motivation to want to accomplish something in your lives, to be motivated.
	Same taste in movies and books.
	Loads of things.
	Yeah.
	Like movies, books.
	I don't think you even need to have gym in common, really.
	don't need to have everything in common it's nice to be able to do your own thing but it's good to have like tell tell me what i would have in common with a 35 year old that i can't have in common with a 25 year old Not really in any, I feel like that's not that much of an age difference.
	A little bit more life experience.
	That's it, yeah.
	That's it.
	I don't think men value life experience.
	I'm not saying they do.
	I'm just saying that's the only thing I can think of, Brian.
	I mean, they grew up in a different decade.
	The only thing I could think of would be like my last boyfriends were 10 years older than me, and they were the best relationships I ever had.
	So what did you say?
	The only thing I could think of would be like generational things, but I don't really think that matters that much.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Especially because like still everyone wants it to be traditional just as it was back in the time.
	So it's like, well, yeah, exactly.
	So it would be like that would it.
	Yeah.
	I agree with you.
	Oh my God.
	She didn't watch the original Karate Kid movie.
	I'm done over.
	Yeah, you can show the person all these things.
	Like, if they matter so much to you.
	I feel like a lot of times if people have too much in common, like, then it's, like, boring.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Like, for example, some people, like, in a relationship, right, you go out, you both can't match your guys's energy when it comes to being crazy.
	If both of you guys are crazy, it's going to be too crazy.
	There needs to be a little bit of a chill one.
	And there needs to be somebody so you guys can balance each other.
	So I feel like that's also nice to have like an older guy that's like a little bit more chilled out so that when you go out and stuff, you feel that safe and you feel like you can kind of do that because they don't feel like they need to be doing that instead of like two 23-year-olds that are just going crazy.
	And then it's like no one's there to balance each other.
	Yeah, what are you going to talk about?
	Just have the same thing in common.
	Yeah, like, yeah, me too.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Nothing to talk about, nothing to learn.
	Like, you guys just, yeah.
	Music taste is important, though, because you don't want to be having to listen to like bait hot women listening to Oasis in the car.
	You know what I mean?
	I would do it if I love them.
	What'd you say?
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Is it a deal breaker if they don't have the same thing?
	See, that's what I'm saying.
	I would break it, but it's just, it's just, that is one thing.
	I would deal with it.
	She listens to rap music.
	I'm not going to lie.
	And I feel like younger women lean a bit more towards listening to rap.
	What?
	I don't know if it's a.
	I DJ old school hip hop.
	I feel like I like talking like more, I don't know, past five, ten years stuff.
	Like, are you talking about like sexy red?
	Because I don't listen to sexy red.
	She's terrible.
	I don't know the rap stuff.
	It's vulgar.
	Yeah, it's like, it's honestly crazy.
	It's a lot, especially for the fact that kids, like, there's like three-year-olds that are like, not three-year-olds, but I have like five-year-olds that are like singing it like I'm like, that shit's terrible.
	That's where things are wrong.
	Yeah, no, me neither.
	Every time people dance to it at the club, I'm like, I get requested to have all the time and I'm sorry.
	All right, we're gonna let some more chats come through.
	We got Clane here.
	Thank you, Clan.
	Clain donated $69.
	$69.
	Been busy flying all day.
	Scroll down.
	Just got on.
	Can anyone translate this to a presolo line?
	Pink shirt always connected with older men's wallets.
	Brown shirt has no idea what threshold.
	What do you say?
	Yo, Clan.
	Just go on, kids, deal.
	This guy dropped some champagne pops in a previous show.
	This guy's a legend.
	That's pre-pink shirts.
	I don't know what that is.
	I don't know.
	I'm kind of confused with this question, sir.
	Who's connecting comments?
	Are you so young?
	They're confused, Clane.
	Clarify.
	Blahfest, thank you.
	Oh, I don't know why that's.
	I guess it's a bad thing to ask questions.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	God, it's horrible.
	Death queen.
	Yeah.
	Bro, everyone always does that to me.
	Blafest.
	Let me fix that.
	Thank you.
	Blafest donated $30.
	What if a 40-year-old man and a 21-year-old woman wanted to start enough together?
	Would that be okay?
	I would say yeah, because what's really the difference?
	I don't think OnlyFans is more.
	I think, yeah, she's against, so maybe not the best question.
	Sorry, Mr. Wait, how about this, though?
	Just for Blafest here.
	Blah Fest, you owe me this one.
	What would you rather see?
	A guy being a long-term monogamous, committed relationship, like 35 dating a 20-year-old, or those two same people just having a one-night stand and that's it.
	Which two people?
	20.
	Oh, the 35 and the 20-year-old.
	Staying together.
	Oh, but like, wouldn't you agree that there's much more opportunity for a girl to be manipulated in a long-term relationship?
	Wait, did you say they weren't?
	I thought you said it was a good relationship.
	I said there was a long-term monogamous relationship.
	But you would agree with me, even under those circumstances, that manipulation could occur.
	She could be manipulated.
	Yeah, I mean, if you're giving me two choices, I'm going to pick the other one.
	It's less.
	But you would agree that, like, if a girl just has a one-night stand, and that's the extent, it's kind of hard, absent her, I suppose, her being manipulated into sex, beyond that, manipulated in other ways, she wouldn't be.
	I just don't, I don't know, I don't believe in one-night stands.
	I don't, I don't like them.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't think my Pasty George donated $30.
	Thank you, Pasty.
	Pasty.
	Too many women in first world countries are now predators and will divorce a man over stupid things like him forgetting to put down the toilet seat and letting her know when she is wrong.
	Oh, extreme.
	That's solo Craig Craig, Mister.
	You know what?
	I actually, this reminds me, I've never shared this anecdote before.
	By the way, $30 TTS, guys, if you'd like to get it in.
	Also, pull up the thing, shop.wheldever.com, because you can also get yourself a t-shirt for the same amount.
	Shop.willever.com.
	Pull up the thingy on the streamlines.
	Stylish.
	The new Yeezys.
	It's right.
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	Guys, get yourself some merch.
	Shop.whatever.com.
	Cost of the TTS here at the end.
	Just look at these beautiful glasses.
	You can have one for yourself.
	Well, it's not that one.
	You can get hummingbirds with those.
	You can catch the hummingbirds.
	Oh, so here's the anecdote.
	It was my first time hanging out with this girl, and she gave me flack, genuine flack, not like banter, for having left.
	She was at my place, leaving my toilet seat up.
	What?
	And we hooked up.
	What was she doing?
	But there was not a second, not a second date.
	I'm just confused and baffled at why she was leaving the toilet seat up.
	No, she was at your home, right?
	She was at my spot.
	I went to use the bathroom.
	I'm sorry.
	I left the toilet seat up.
	And then she's like, wow, why did you leave the toilet seat up?
	It's your place, man.
	Like, who does she think she is?
	There was, to be fair, that wasn't the only reason that there wasn't anything else.
	What if it was?
	But that was a strike against her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there was some other shit too, but like, yeah, I had if it was in her place, which is what I initially thought.
	No, it's still okay.
	Whoa, I said that really loud.
	I believe it was also that said that the biggest regret of his term was no fault divorce.
	And that was kind of what we're talking about toilet seats.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Divorces.
	She'd been waiting all night to say that shit.
	I was joking about the hummingbirds.
	What's wrong?
	If I'm at a girl's place, why do I gotta put the toilet seat down?
	You think I gotta put the toilet down?
	I think why is that?
	Because we don't want to touch it.
	I don't really care.
	I don't want to.
	What if I sit in the toilet and there's like peony and I'm just like sitting there and I fall through the toilet seat.
	I fall in.
	The rim is the same.
	And then I'm just my whole booty's wet from it.
	Like I will cry.
	If they go to the bathroom when it's dark because they don't want to switch on the light because of the melatonin thing, right?
	So then they just fall into the loop.
	Yeah, that has never happened my entire life, so I don't understand why everyone's got a problem with that.
	I would just stay there until you came in there.
	I'd be like, this is what you've caused me.
	No, that would be different.
	Maybe girls should just be more careful when they're going to the bathroom.
	I would never do that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I would get up and I'd smack them.
	Okay, guys, $30 TTS.
	Get it in.
	Get them in.
	We have Drink Up Jess.
	Drink up Jess donated $30.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	And comes back like that.
	Yo, thank you.
	Tonight's panel totally wrecked the Discord drinking game players.
	What?
	Thank you.
	Base, you're donated $30.
	Shout out to all the shitty dads out there.
	Your daughters are the best for meaningless sex.
	Oh, God.
	Remember, your hair causer daddy is not a queer.
	Happy Father's Day.
	Only fans, girls, fathers must be proud.
	Thank you, thank you.
	What a lovely thing to say.
	That's nice, isn't it?
	Mr. Hyde, you have to pay the sim tax.
	You have to pay the sim tax.
	If you're going to simp, you have to send in another.
	What would be the difference?
	And I'm not angry.
	And what would be the difference of the potential when we all are doing the same thing?
	Like, that doesn't even make any sense.
	One can be saved, but the rest can't.
	I'm not an OnlyFans girl, by the way.
	Do you have a refrainer?
	Solid.
	Wait, Chloe, read Chloe.
	I don't understand.
	Chloe.
	Name three countries.
	America.
	No.
	No, she was going to give you a hand, guys.
	America, Europe, and Guys, be quiet.
	One more.
	You got it.
	You got this.
	I'm really not good at geography.
	What's in Europe?
	You got this.
	Think about what's in Europe.
	I've literally traveled.
	One quick, one, one last country.
	One last country, Chloe.
	You got this.
	You got this.
	China.
	Jamaica.
	Good job.
	She almost did it.
	Two out of three.
	Europe is not a country.
	It is a continent.
	It's a very important thing.
	Name ten books.
	That's a lot.
	I can't.
	Leave her alone.
	Leave her alone.
	Unfortunately, if you can't name ten books, you have to read the first five pages of Cat in the House.
	I love that book.
	You made me do this last time.
	I literally am so sorry.
	Oh, sorry.
	I would love to read it.
	I'm already good at that.
	That was my favorite.
	I have Green Eggs and Ham, The Butter Battle Book, which was my personal favorite.
	I never read that one.
	My friend's favourite.
	Is it by Dr. Seuss?
	Oh, Dr. Seuss.
	This is the Butter Battle Book.
	I'm going to read that when I get home.
	I'm going to find it online.
	Check that shit out.
	And the next time I'm going to put that back again, you want it?
	You might have just sold me right now, y'all.
	Get the merch.
	Get the merch.
	You got the books.
	No, you got to give me the money.
	I'm hustling.
	We'll talk about it afterwards.
	I honestly might just do it, y'all.
	She might just do it for the Amazon first.
	Do it for the daughter.
	Do it for the vine.
	Yeah, that's what it was.
	Go ahead, Chloe.
	The book's not going to read itself.
	I want to hear it.
	It's going to sound cute with your voice.
	We got 45 minutes.
	The Cat in the Hat by Dr. Seuss.
	The sun did not shine.
	It was too wet to play.
	So we sat in the house all that cold, cold, wet day.
	I sat there with Sally.
	We sat there, we two, and I said, how I wish we had something to do.
	Too wet to go out and too cold to play ball.
	So we sat in the house.
	We did nothing at all.
	So all we could do was to sit, sit, sit, sit.
	And we did not like it.
	Not one little bit.
	Shut the fuck up.
	That was beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I love that.
	I would have you read to me all day long, every day.
	We got pasty.
	I'm talking about right now in other countries where women have no internet or social media, but have access to education.
	Would they need common interests with Western men?
	If so, why?
	I'm still a little confused.
	Pasty, come on.
	He's been on it, and now he's not on it.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	She's not going to give you an answer.
	I don't know, man.
	All right.
	Sin Magic 14 donated $100.
	Wu-Tang Clan.
	What does the DJ think about that?
	cash rules everything around me um block doesn't rule everything around me but it it's a song I know, I know, I know, I know.
	It rules a lot of people's lives for sure.
	Wow.
	Profound.
	Yeah, I know.
	Profound.
	Sorry, I'm getting a little bit tired.
	Chloe, what do you think about the Roman Empire?
	My God, why are you making me look so dumb?
	My mom is not going to be proud.
	This has been really embarrassing for me.
	Like, everything I said today was so embarrassing.
	It was an embarrassing.
	You said you were cool with just.
	You did a great job.
	I have to go.
	We're close to wrapping, just FYI.
	Sorry.
	Claim donated $30 is your boyfriend.
	That is Latin.
	Someone on the panel could translate that.
	How could you simplify?
	The pink shirt was changed soul.
	Yeah, wait, what about that?
	What it says, the pink shirt was the old soul.
	So, what is it?
	Did you miss that?
	He said something about something in Latin, and then he said the pink shirt was an old soul.
	So, what is clarifying?
	The last TTS.
	We said, Who's the pink shirt?
	Oh, he said, Who's the pink shirt?
	Vanna Rose.
	Thank you.
	You know what they say on the left side of a women's brain?
	There's nothing right, and on the right side, there's nothing left, is what these women tonight are currently suffering from.
	The hummingbird.
	So, he was saying that.
	The hummingbird survived, okay?
	I did not kill the hummingbird.
	It's Vanna Rose.
	B-A-A-N-N-A-R-O-S.
	Of girls, don't forget to call your splendid daddies.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Oh, we got to do the bow video.
	And then, guys, get some chats in if you want.
	We're probably going to get this wrapped up in about 10-15 minutes.
	Can we do man versus bear?
	I'm just curious about man's answers.
	There's only one bear, and it's Chloe.
	Oh.
	So, I mean, I don't know.
	That's funny.
	Feels like Kylie.
	She's like, I could fight it off.
	Don't play with her.
	She said, the boobs.
	She'd been like, oh, I'm going to go.
	She's like, okay.
	That's hilarious.
	Chloe. Chloe. Chloe.
	Tell us something true.
	Tell us something true.
	I don't have a BBL.
	I love that answer.
	I don't know.
	Your Instagram, I don't know if you're doing like filters on that or something, but how do you is there a way?
	Chad, is there a way to tell?
	Brian's been checking your Instagram, baby girl.
	He loves me.
	Right.
	Oh, oh, oh, my God.
	How did I do something?
	What happened?
	No, but what happened?
	Did I get it?
	You're fine.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Here, can you just.
	Yeah, it keeps sticking to the chair and it's like hurting my thighs.
	I'm so sorry.
	Scoot into the table and just scoot into the table, please.
	My apologies.
	My apologies.
	Calm down.
	Okay, you know what?
	I'm gonna.
	You thought you were gonna make it through the show.
	This girl.
	This girl here, bro.
	Every I'm always dealing with some bullshit before the show.
	There's always some fucking diva.
	I've never encountered this, though, to my knowledge.
	Okay.
	Bro, this girl was recording a voice note.
	What was that about?
	Be honest.
	Are you a fucking op?
	Opposition?
	No, of course I'm not.
	Don't be ridiculous.
	My girl Felicity here saw that shit.
	She's like my fucking little spy and shit.
	You were doing a voice recording.
	I don't know why, though.
	I don't know why.
	But you were doing a voice recording, like surreptitiously recording audio before the show.
	I just wanted to prove to my friends when I got out that I was on the show.
	That's all it is.
	Bro, we're live.
	We're live.
	So your explanation doesn't make sense.
	Sorry.
	I know, but explain that shit to us.
	I just explained it to you, Brian.
	Okay.
	You wanted your friends to know you were on the show.
	I didn't actually know that it was live.
	But it would be a plan.
	I just, all I've ever seen of it is like when reels come up online.
	Didn't you say you were a big fan of the show?
	Like 20 minutes ago?
	Because I see it.
	It comes up on my Instagram, like reels and stuff.
	Okay, you can take this out of my accent as much as you want, but you know, we're doing a good comeback.
	We all sent a link.
	So Your phone has enough data to voice records.
	I just wanted to voice record for one second, so to send it to my friends.
	Why would you that?
	Oh, God, just let it go.
	Let it go.
	I think you want me to.
	I think you want me to let it go because there's something else.
	You think that I'm like, what, some kind of like FBI agent?
	Yes, I think you're an FBI agent.
	I think you're an opinion.
	I take that as a compliment.
	In England, FBI.
	I think you're an op.
	I don't know.
	Chat, what do you think?
	So, bro, she's got her voice recording thing on on her phone.
	Why would you be surreptitiously audio recording like the behind the scenes conversation?
	I don't buy it.
	I don't buy that you were wanting to show.
	Who shows?
	Wouldn't you take a photo?
	Wouldn't you take a video?
	Why would you do a voice surreptitious voice recording?
	Even Anya's shaking her head.
	Is California a one-party consense or two-party consense?
	It's one.
	Because all of our voices are on there.
	It's two-party, but it relates to where there's an expectation of price.
	Yeah, you're not allowed to record unless you're being like, I'm recording this right now and I need everyone to be aware of it.
	That's the only way, right?
	Oh.
	But it is pretty sus.
	I've never encountered that.
	Maybe somebody else has done it and I didn't know, but that's weird.
	Yeah, because I'm pretty sure like on phone calls, right?
	Like if you're on a phone call and you screen record it and like you have to tell me that doesn't matter.
	Why were you surreptitiously I've just answered your question now?
	I don't believe you though.
	Okay.
	You seem to be getting very defensive.
	But I'm just bored of being asked the same question over and over and over again.
	Well, I'm kind of bored of you not giving like an answer that I'm not.
	It's because I wanted to just literally just wanted to send a voice note to my friend because it's an interesting thing to be on a podcast like this.
	That is the answer.
	If you don't believe me, that's fine.
	The thought that crosses my mind is like, we...
	What do you think then?
	I was up to.
	Exactly.
	I don't know.
	You tell me.
	Exactly.
	I have told you, darling.
	And you don't seem to be able to.
	You seem to be getting very defensive about it.
	Because you're going on and on and on and on, and it's just getting boring now.
	She's embarrassed.
	But the thing that like most people when it comes to posting stories or I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, most people, if they're trying to show their friends that they're somewhere and we mentioned this in our pre-show notes, take a story when you're so take a selfie photo, take a video.
	Oh, look, here's the studio.
	Surreptitiously recording audio is a bit peculiar.
	Like, you're going to send here's the behind the scenes.
	Oh, my God.
	Yo, here's what it is.
	The BBC sent her, bro.
	They're doing a fucking.
	That's it.
	You got me.
	You're doing a piece on it.
	It's me and David Asenbrough.
	They're doing, the BBC, as woke as they are, is doing a little.
	Wait, what is BBC?
	British broadcasting chin.
	She got me.
	Also, not that BBC.
	Obviously, I'm just joking.
	I'm just saying, it's kind of weird.
	Okay.
	Like, I don't know, man.
	Alright.
	You're a fucking liar!
	You're a fucking liar.
	That's nice.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	Did you?
	I don't even.
	She said she deleted it, but I don't know if she.
	Oh, my God.
	There's a recently deleted too, right?
	Yeah, there is a recently.
	She's going to be a little bit more.
	But for voice notes, is there?
	Yeah.
	But it wasn't for that long, I don't think.
	Was it a voice?
	I camera shit.
	Yeah, the second I saw it.
	Who you work for, huh?
	Who you work for?
	The government.
	James Bond.
	Oh.
	Where are you at?
	See, that's why I was upset with her during the show.
	I mean, to be fair, she was like doing sidebars and shit.
	But it started off on a bad foot to begin with.
	Like, I have an op in my studio.
	That's what I'm dealing with fucking before the show.
	This girl's a fucking op.
	Chloe's an op too.
	FBI.
	I thought she was dressed very nicely for it.
	See, I saw her put that shit in.
	She tucked it in.
	She's got a little mini spy camera on there.
	I seen you with the bird.
	She's like, I seen the bird.
	Bow video.
	Yeah, sure.
	Let's play the bow video.
	Bow, bow.
	$30 TTS, guys.
	Get the men.
	There's a lot of love for Chloe in the chat.
	Okay, hide that temporarily.
	No, just the.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	This is a video I took of my definitely ex-girlfriend.
	Definitely a video that I took.
	I lied about this last time.
	Did she give me permission to show you this?
	Your ex-girlfriend?
	Oh, it's a joke.
	This is you.
	I wish that was your ex-girlfriend.
	You're just so funny, Chloe.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Chloe, we are BFFs.
	I wish I was best friends with you.
	Oh my god, me too.
	Really?
	Can we go shopping together?
	Tomorrow?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Let's.
	I'm so curious.
	Is this your real personality or is this like a friend?
	Oh, shit, Chloe.
	Are you going to let her talk to you like that, Chloe?
	No, in general, like the way you talk and the way you act.
	Is this how you really are?
	Or is this like a front?
	She's calling you a fake Chloe.
	Are you going to let me know?
	I think that's how she really is.
	I'm pretty like myself.
	You know what?
	No, just in general, the way you talk.
	I just want to know if it's like the show.
	Me and Chloe were talking.
	Guys, it's all NAC.
	She came up to me and she's like, Brian, it was really good to meet you.
	Not how high her voice is.
	Her voice was deep.
	No, not her voice.
	Just her demeanor and the way she is and how you space her.
	She's just a cutesie.
	She's a cutie little cutie.
	Even if it's fake, she would never admit that.
	Chloe, are you going to let her talk to you like that?
	I just want to know if it's genuine or not.
	I think it's genuine.
	I mean, I do social media.
	Like, I do social media.
	I mean, like, I definitely can put on like more entertaining voice and like, you know, more like anime.
	But wait, do it.
	She already did it.
	I literally want to die.
	Do it.
	That was like, I cannot watch that again.
	Like, like, are you going to do it?
	What?
	I don't know.
	The U-Woo shit.
	Uh-huh.
	That's reserved.
	Oh, whatever.
	Honestly, I don't think I've ever posted an U.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, no.
	You do, you do the on your Twitter, you do the hate.
	Pretty often, yeah.
	All right, one more time, Chloe, for the books, for the record books.
	We'll just add 10 minutes.
	She's going to do it.
	She's doing the little finger thing.
	Ooh.
	No, Brian.
	It smells fucking disgusting.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I heard that too.
	I heard that in your throat.
	Did you hear that shit?
	That was like some fucking signs.
	I've had like a cough for like a month and then it's finally just that now.
	That's what I'm left with.
	That's this residue.
	Watch out, Crystal.
	No, this was like literally.
	I literally was a whole month.
	I don't know if anyone else had to deal with that, but my.
	At least Chloe is open about being in a spot.
	Felicity is such a thirsty undercover ultras trumpet.
	I am so sick of seeing her.
	Did you guys like the hat?
	Turn.
	Do you guys like the hat?
	Look, it's a cool hat.
	How can you hate her?
	She hasn't said anything.
	Undercover?
	Tell me.
	Tell me more.
	All right.
	We have Zach here, the panel question.
	If a man not serial killer looking, i.e., you know what mean, bro, would you rather be approached in person to buy?
	Please put this through like chat GPT or spell check before.
	Or do you prefer getting hit up on social media?
	Okay, would you rather be approached in person or hit up on social media?
	Like by a guy that I would like.
	Just show of hands.
	I would rather be approached by person.
	In person.
	Love, it's almost there.
	I promise.
	Oh, okay.
	Go ahead.
	I feel like I would rather be approached in person because I feel like on okay, lovely.
	I feel like I'd rather be approached in person because I feel like on like social media, like you can just be like in everybody's DMs, but like to see someone and go up to them and approach them, like I feel like that's a little bit more personal.
	Ask for like someone could literally be DMing like eight girls at the same time.
	Like it's the same message and I would literally never know.
	Word.
	Hasty George.
	Hasty George donated $30.
	Thank you, Zach.
	Appreciate it.
	It is a fact that many women in first world countries are now predators.
	Unfortunately, many young men will not realize this until it is too late and they get ripped off in divorce court.
	Interesting.
	Financial predators.
	Predators, man.
	They're predators.
	It's crazy.
	We're like a Jurassic Park.
	Shit.
	Don't get married.
	Don't get married, gentlemen.
	Don't do it.
	Bird Destroyer donated $30.
	That's true.
	BTW birds aren't real, Chloe.
	That's why COVID was invented.
	I refueled the Lord's work.
	My stomach's actually kind of bugging me.
	I might already have the bird flu or something.
	Birds are real is a crazy comment.
	What type of drugs?
	Power lines are just charging stations.
	You have to be ordered some sort of drugs to think that birds aren't real.
	Workbloke donated $30.
	Anya has the physiognomy of a sophisticated person.
	She's relatively articulate and has the look of a well-put-together girl who's at misfortune.
	Also, this is me paying the simp tax, so DM me the smile.
	Okay, thank you, Woke Bloke.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Claim.
	Translate this It's for you, it's Latin Oh, sorry Libra is.
	So to, well, it probably means to oppress someone who's like a scholar, like a reader.
	I mean, it's been now 14 years since I was at university.
	And I've forgotten quite a lot.
	Okay.
	We have.
	Oh, wait.
	Limber Libra might be drinking.
	My mean drink.
	She is acting very guilty right now.
	You can tell that she did something wrong, and she knows it.
	But like many modern women, she will never admit to being wrong or accepting responsibility.
	LOL.
	So when I confronted her about it before the show, I did confront her.
	I was like, walked up to her point blank.
	Why are you recording on your recording audio on your phone?
	If it was totally innocent, bro, your hands were shaking.
	Yeah, because I was nervous.
	You got confronted.
	I was walking into a podcast.
	Like, that's quite a nerve-wracking thing.
	Okay, I'll be charitable, sure.
	And you are quite an intimidating person, to be honest, Lauren.
	Yeah, you really are.
	Yeah, just a little bit.
	You are.
	I don't have any tattoos.
	I feel like you're not.
	Intimidating as anyone.
	Intimidating as any person.
	I feel like chubby.
	I'm definitely a little chubby.
	Is that why you were this much?
	Intimidating isn't just a big, strong person with tattoos and like a grill.
	Intimidating can be the way that someone speaks to you in their tone.
	Pale.
	Kind of chubby.
	You're just tattooed.
	It's very hard to be intimidated.
	I feel like I'm more attracted.
	I feel like I'm more attracted.
	I have aura.
	I was sitting in the car with my manager and he was, we saw you like walking outside and he was like, oh my god, like, is that Brian Atlas?
	Or actually, it's okay.
	I feel like I'm more attracted to like dead bots.
	Like, I don't know if you're like, I don't like one of super butchers.
	Wait, is that the thing?
	Is that the guy who runs the little manager?
	Yeah.
	But he was, then he saw you.
	He was like, you have aura online.
	And then he was like, yeah, your aura dropped like 20 points when he saw you outside.
	Damn, what the fuck?
	Oh, no.
	That's bad.
	He was like, he never saw you standing up before.
	That's why I was saying, like, maybe you didn't want to stand to get the bird because you're aura.
	The fuck?
	Damn, Chloe been kind of going at me all night.
	I've been so nice to Chloe tonight.
	I've been so nice to Chloe, but she's been coming at me.
	She's trying to get something.
	She's trying to, man.
	She wants to see what's underneath that sweater.
	I'm going to once again.
	Can we maybe fix that?
	I don't know.
	Man, fuck it.
	It doesn't even matter.
	Just leave it for now.
	Okay.
	Yeah, don't fuck it up.
	You guys are going to fuck that shit up.
	God damn.
	No, it's fine.
	All right.
	Our shit's all fucked up, guys.
	I'm getting new ones.
	I'm getting new ones.
	Chloe, we need proof that you don't have a BBL.
	How do you give proof?
	I literally don't feel like I look like I have a BBL, but.
	We have to do a fit check.
	I don't want to.
	Like, that's weird.
	Is that too far?
	Yeah.
	Nah, it's not too far.
	I think it is.
	But I don't want to see that anyways.
	Ew.
	Oh, yeah.
	You should get me connected to your manager, though.
	Because he sounds like he has a thing for me.
	Just kidding.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm good.
	But you lost.
	Yeah.
	You gotta get this.
	And they said this.
	What age did you say you were?
	Last time I said I was 18 and I was 19.
	Why did you just discuss it?
	Did you just forget?
	Sometimes that happens to me.
	Watch, watch.
	Brian, if you would have put the seat down, I would have folded your laundry, hit the bow.
	All right, let's do the bow video.
	Let's do the bow dinner.
	Okay.
	I thought it was always in 15 minutes.
	Wetty, McWetford.
	I'm gonna fed you a whole tomato.
	Do you like tomatoes?
	Sorry, dad.
	All right, go ahead.
	This is a video I definitely took of my ex-girlfriend.
	A to see.
	Huge bow.
	Boom.
	Massive.
	So I expect when I get home after a long podcast that my girlfriend bows to me.
	What does that mean?
	She bows.
	Is this a bad thing?
	Oh, she's bowed.
	Okay, like this.
	I honestly didn't understand what that was.
	She has my dinner ready.
	Oh my god.
	Who the fucking whole is this real or Jay?
	I can't fix it.
	This is legit.
	This could be you.
	Is she gonna feed him?
	No, but she has my dinner ready.
	All right, get ready to play it.
	One more time.
	Play it again.
	That's the eye video.
	Okay, I get it.
	Did you see the bow?
	Look at that.
	Depth.
	Well done.
	Good technique.
	And the hands should not be at the side.
	The hands have to be tucked, submissive, like that.
	Holding like that.
	Going around the table.
	Would you bow for your man?
	Yes, sir.
	Absolutely.
	Bow?
	Yes.
	If he, no, probably not.
	If he deserved it.
	If he did something like, you know, amazing, like saved me from a burning fire.
	Maybe.
	I would say yes if he was doing everything like I get him at like hug and a kiss when I see him, but I don't know about bowing.
	That's a little bit.
	You wouldn't do it.
	What about for the perfect guy?
	If it was something that he was like, was really into, I mean, it's not going to hurt me to bow, is it?
	So you would do it.
	Yeah, I'd do it if it matters.
	I would do it if it was like the right guy.
	Like, why not?
	Like, why not?
	If he wants me to buy, I'll be like, quit.
	Okay, what about you?
	I wouldn't say so.
	You wouldn't do it?
	I mean, if the perfect guy came and he wanted me to, I mean, I guess so.
	That would be your level of enthusiasm for the perfect guy.
	My goodness.
	I mean, it's not something I would normally do, but I mean, I would if he wanted me to.
	Okay, so you would do it.
	What about you?
	Would you do it?
	It just would have to depend on the scenario.
	And if he's the provider, he's out there working.
	He's out there providing.
	He comes back.
	I wouldn't mind doing that for him.
	Okay, what about you?
	Yeah, if he's the provider, I feel like it would be very comical to do it, but I would definitely show my appreciation for it.
	Bocho.
	Felicity.
	Why didn't we ask for this tea?
	Maybe only for my husband.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	L Felicity.
	Brian, would you do it for a woman who's the provider?
	Because of me.
	I got cheated on because of Brian.
	What?
	What?
	You two guys.
	Are you two dating?
	No.
	No.
	Wait, why do you say that?
	Why the fuck?
	Why do you say that shit like that?
	I'm not like just wondering.
	I'm just like, what?
	Did you see the way she went?
	No.
	When she sees myself.
	Oh, my God.
	She was like horrified.
	Bro, Felicity starts gooning.
	No, you wanted a reason to pull up young Brian.
	She goons over young Brian, this gooner over here.
	Okay, so hot.
	Baddie?
	Pull up the Instagram, the young brother.
	Who's a girl?
	That's me.
	You still have that to you, Niggity?
	No, that's definitely not Felicity.
	That shit was from a minute ago.
	Okay, pull it up.
	While she's pulling that up, we have Woke Bloke.
	Oh, okay.
	He's on.
	He wants your Instagram.
	I'm serious, Brian.
	Do you think I'm fucking around, mate?
	That was great bait for some extra change.
	All right, Anya, if you want to tell him you're at, you can.
	At the Anya A-N-Y-A.
	And then my last name's kind of difficult.
	M-A-T-U-S-E-V-I-C-H.
	Beautiful.
	Okay, we have Claim.
	Thank you, brother.
	There isn't anything genuine about Chloe.
	She has everyone convinced how useless she is.
	To oppress all either is free the oppressed.
	SF motto.
	Pretty simple translation.
	Oh.
	That means she's a sweetheart.
	Okay.
	We love you.
	Oh, pull up the Instagram really quick.
	Scroll.
	So the boss.
	Whatever.
	To the boss.
	This is your Instagram.
	This is my surfing photos and shit.
	You surf?
	Fucking Felicity over here, just such a gooner.
	Fucking, she.
	I can't help it.
	I looked at her most recent on her Instagram, and it's just all my Instagram.
	I can't help myself.
	It's crazy.
	It's just crazy.
	I mean, I get it.
	Okay, relax.
	I get it.
	I'm with her.
	Take the sweater off.
	How did I make your boyfriend dump you, though?
	I'm just kidding.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Take the sweater off.
	Good.
	Okay.
	You want a fit check?
	We need to do your fit check.
	Come on, fit check, Brian.
	This is for you.
	In Veno Veritas.
	I think the London one can maybe a lie about her Latin degree in Vina.
	Yeah, well, like, at the time I was at university, my mom died, and I think her trauma, like, really, really fucked with my brain.
	So I have a lot of, like, I have a lot of gaps of memory.
	And unfortunately, a lot of that's my fucking Latin degree.
	So, well, it's pointless anyway, wasn't it?
	Some of the body count too.
	Like, there's gaps in the body count, too, right?
	Whatever you want to say, Brian.
	Go for it.
	That's hilarious.
	Let's fucking do some math.
	That was very passionate of you, wasn't it?
	Okay, fucking BBC undercover reporter fucking.
	Okay, guy who said that this would be over in 10 minutes and now 20 minutes has passed.
	Oh, you got me.
	I lie.
	Oh, I was incorrect about how long this would take.
	Okay, we have another chat here.
	It's all love.
	Love.
	It's all good, man.
	You and me.
	He did that pretty well, okay?
	It's all good, love.
	You would fold me.
	Okay, governor.
	I'm sorry, I'm not sure.
	I want to point out that my last podcast is at my place the same day we finished our first day.
	Why is a simple bow so bad on a first date or after?
	On the first day is crazy, though.
	I think it's a sign of respect, right?
	That's a son of respect.
	Yeah, yeah, and if I just don't know what his attentions are with you, like the first date is a little crazy.
	Yeah, no.
	All right, final call, guys.
	Final call.
	Get a chat in.
	We're going to get this wrapped up.
	Final call.
	$30 to TS.
	Any final thoughts from anybody?
	I'm not opening the door.
	No.
	Felicity is ready to go.
	Felicity is ready to go.
	Okay.
	The real question is, is he opening the door?
	Because if he's opening the door, maybe I might bow.
	Bow, bow.
	But we don't know.
	I'll bow to anyone.
	I think if we want this podcast, I think if we want dating or something.
	Okay, guys, Venmo Cash App, whatever pod.
	100% of your contribution goes towards us.
	Thomas, thank for the Cash App.
	Hannah, thank for the five.
	Richard, thank for the two.
	And guys, if you enjoyed the stream, like the video, please.
	Guys, we have a debate scheduled for Saturday and then just our dating talk on Sunday.
	So like the video, guys.
	Twitch.tv, pull up our Twitch.
	Guys, oh, I haven't even pulled it up.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Guys, oh my goodness.
	48 minutes since we last got a prime sub.
	Boys, I think it's bugged.
	There's 1,200 people watching.
	Check if you have a Prime sub available.
	Support the show, guys.
	Support the show.
	Quick for Easy Way to support the show every single month.
	Also, join our Discord.
	Pull up the Discord really quick, Mary.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	We post behind the scenes of all my hate mail.
	Guys, I've been getting an influx of hate mail these past couple days.
	Pull up.
	It's probably because we've got opposition like you.
	You just killed me.
	All right, pull up the wall of whatever.
	Wall of whatever.
	I thought we were going.
	Michael, I thought we were.
	I'm stopping.
	Pull up the meme.
	Pull up the gorge.
	Look at that.
	Oh, my God.
	Hilarious.
	Love it.
	No, they didn't.
	All right, X out of that.
	Play full screen Felicity.
	That is.
	Felicity gave me some flack, so we're watching her get arrested.
	This is you?
	Yeah.
	How did you get arrested?
	Our very own Taylor Drift.
	Play it.
	You look hot getting arrested, though.
	...Jura County driving an Infiniti G37, or as police are now alleging, a deadly weapon, was chased by cops at over 100 miles per hour after also crashing into cops, before being taken into custody by cops in a dead end after she took a wrong turn in a pursuit that ironically started as a...
	That's...
	That's what Felicity did.
	No, it's not killed just before 9 p.m.
	Seven.
	The driver at the wheel is alleged to be Felicity Hughes of Camarilla.
	She eventually exited the freeway and went towards Auto Drive Mall before she turned down a dead end road on Transport.
	Damn, Felicity.
	Wait, so what happened?
	Damn, you fucked that copy.
	I can't really, really hear it.
	I know, it's crazy.
	Anyways, you can see that.
	Oh, at least I'm not.
	Did you turn the wrong way?
	You turned the wrong way and hit a cop.
	Look.
	Oh, I sent you the dash cam footage.
	Oh, I haven't seen it.
	At least I'm not even going to do it.
	Do you mind if I ask you?
	So did you turn on?
	I can't really hear this.
	Oh, so anyways.
	Workbloke donated $30.
	Guys, should I make my Nintendo username Doucheback Chadorlong Shong John?
	You should make it Osama Bin Balin.
	How about that?
	I don't know.
	Oh, donated $30.
	This is the problem with somebody college educated.
	Do you think you've got it all figured out yet?
	Your hairmaking moves and decisions you ain't qualified to make about men you think you can get.
	Base Thor.
	Well put, base Thor.
	I love that.
	Thank you, bass Thor.
	Okay.
	Big laby matter.
	Okay.
	If you want, if you can try to sneak one in, you can.
	$30 TTS.
	Guys, like the video if you enjoyed the stream.
	I'd like to end the show with a call to action.
	We have four women at this table that are involved in OnlyFans.
	By seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to do a call to action, would you and you and you and you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
	Right now.
	On the whatever podcast.
	Wait, what is the question?
	Oh.
	Would you consider stop OF?
	Stopping doing, stopping OF.
	I'm about to take the makeup off super quick, then we can wrap the show.
	Would you consider it?
	Well, I mean, I would consider it if I was like.
	Makeup wipe.
	I mean, like, I've never, like, I don't know.
	I would just say no, not right now.
	Take the makeup off, everybody.
	This is our final segment.
	Then we wrap.
	We're wrapping.
	I'm going out for dinner after this.
	I don't have to take off my makeup.
	Oh, you have a, you have a little rendezvous.
	You've got a rendezvous with the mirror?
	I've got the.
	I've got the oil free.
	Can I go to the bottom?
	You're going to go for shag.
	You're going to go for shag.
	Sorry.
	I know.
	Are they oil-free?
	Is the real question because she's got dinner with a strapping American lad.
	Just don't put it on your gorgeous.
	If you do work for the BBC, I apologize for everything I said to you today.
	Just kidding.
	Oh, that's got a strong smell.
	Whatever those are.
	Oh, shit.
	Can I look in the mirror or move?
	Chloe, did you just fart?
	Hey, Chloe.
	I don't know.
	Go so I can look at what I'm doing because I can't do this all day.
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	What happened?
	I literally can't see.
	You gotta start getting like towels or something for their laps.
	Anyways.
	Wait, did you take it off?
	No, I don't have anything on for me to take off.
	Wait, what?
	Did you?
	Who's that?
	Oh, do you want to take some off?
	No, I don't.
	What?
	Why not?
	It's going to take forever.
	How are you putting it on?
	Okay, I'm putting it on the.
	None of them that different, really.
	Oh, we're really pushing.
	I think it's.
	You look the same.
	Yeah, it's honestly, I don't wear that much makeup.
	Would you consider stopping sex work, Anya, tonight?
	You usually attach an incentive to that, like, but no.
	I will, you will be background character number two.
	I'll give you a job.
	You can come out here.
	That's not what I mean.
	You're always like, I feel like sometimes you're like, oh, for a billion dollars, no, I have multiple.
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	Chloe, will you stop sex work tonight?
	I totally would for like the right guy.
	Like, if he like swoops me up tonight, I would stop it right now.
	But if not, then sadly, no.
	Would you stop sex work tonight?
	I agree with Chloe.
	If there was somebody that was able to provide for me the exact way that I needed it, then I would.
	Okay.
	But for right now, I'm like, I don't think so.
	It's not really.
	Nope.
	All right.
	I tried.
	It was worth an effort.
	I tried my best.
	I put, you know, whatever.
	All right, GG.
	Well played.
	To the panel, last call.
	Hit the like button, please.
	On your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We cannot do this without you.
	You know, we're oftentimes demonetized on YouTube.
	A lot of our videos get demonetized.
	Don't almost never do any sponsorships.
	So we are viewer supported.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram.
	We'll be live again Saturday with a debate, Sunday with another dating talk.
	Let me just double-check, make sure there are no chats came through.
	One sec, hold on, and then be sure.
	Oh, Lizzy, I don't know, it's not going to let me do it, but Lizzie, thank you for the gifted five subs.
	We have two chats.
	Pasty George donated $30.
	I love re-watching the episode where Andrew Wilson gave Prisla with the lisp a taste of her own medicine.
	Yarsorn fucking stay padded Yar Shawd Gartafu Katah.
	I laugh every time LMFAO.
	That was great.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for that.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	The underscore cues donated $30.
	Taylor Drift is such a dangerous driver that her body grew natural chest airbags for when she crashes.
	This is true.
	It is true.
	Velocity, thank you.
	I want to thank all the panelists for attending the podcast and Brian for hosting.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	What does Pasty George do?
	He's always donating.
	I'm so curious.
	He does.
	He as a First Nations Canadian.
	He owns multiple casinos.
	Oh, wow.
	Are you trolling or are you being serious?
	I think he was being serious.
	I think that's pretty accurate.
	That's right.
	Go pasty.
	Go pasty.
	W Pasty.
	Thank you for your casino patronage.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, guys.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	Oops, I'm sorry.
	Let me just double-check everything, make sure we're all good here.
	All right, mate.
	Well done.
	All right, we're going for proper okay.
	Sorry.
	All right, 07's in the chat, guys.
	Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
	We'll see you guys next week.

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