Whatever Podcast - RAGE QUIT! CONFRONTING Alien Girl?! Muslim Girl Is HARAM?! Jimbob Debate LEGEND!

April 7, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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RAGE QUIT! CONFRONTING Alien Girl?! Muslim Girl Is HARAM?! Jimbob Debate LEGEND! | Dating Talk #237

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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation, where are you from, and education.
	Hi, my name is Sam.
	I'm from Florida and I'm 19 and I do content creation.
	All right.
	What kind of content?
	Adult entertainment.
	Okay.
	Any sort of, you know, like what kind?
	Explicit content.
	You know.
	Do you do BG?
	BG content?
	Not necessarily.
	I don't want to go.
	I don't really post that necessarily.
	It's a, you know, it's just a form of entertainment through content I post.
	Kind of like an inside of my life, just a little bit more in-depth than what I would post on like Instagram or Snapchat.
	Okay.
	And any college or anything like that?
	No.
	I did graduate, but I just haven't gone for any of that stuff yet.
	But I do want to go into marketing and stuff.
	Just haven't.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am Alien.
	I'm 26.
	I work at a factory or warehouse or whatever, plus I kind of do my own thing, and then I'm also from Arizona.
	Okay.
	Any education, college, anything like that?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Did you get your bachelor's?
	Well, you know, I kind of dropped out unwillingly, but I went to college.
	Okay.
	And you do OF, is that correct?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	Like, it's up there, but I don't really participate in it.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	That chair.
	I apologize.
	This chair is incredibly squeaky.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Sarah Tasha.
	I'm 29 years old, and I'm a poet.
	I also have a master's in public administration from USC.
	Sorry, could you repeat your age again?
	Sorry.
	29.
	29.
	Got it.
	And master's in from USC and what again?
	Public administration.
	Public administration.
	Okay.
	And where are you from?
	Reynoldsburg, Ohio is where I was born.
	From Ohio.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, my name is Nazane Noble.
	I'm 47.
	A business owner, bachelor's degree in English, entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, life coach from LA.
	Okay.
	Right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Tiffany.
	I'm 19.
	I go to UCSB.
	I'm majoring in PoliSci and Econ, and I'm from here.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	Here, my name is Val.
	I'm 30 years old.
	And I consider myself an underground comedian.
	I'd like to shout out my fans.
	I have a new name for you guys.
	You guys are meanie babies.
	Other than that, I barely went to school.
	I just went as little as legally possible.
	So that's where I'm at.
	I have some college.
	That's about it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name is Felicity.
	I'm 18 from Santa Barbara, and I'm a dental assistant.
	And I go to college for business.
	All right.
	My name's Jim Bob.
	I go by Made by Jim Bob.
	I'm a political cartoonist, and I do social commentary at Made by Jim Bob on YouTube.
	And you can find me on Made by Jim Bob on Instagram.
	I also brought Shameless Grift, Brian, three of my books.
	You can see that.
	For me, for you.
	I'll put them on my bookshelf.
	Yeah, you will giggle at those things, man.
	The first two volumes are sold out.
	Illuminate post-truth booster.
	Cultura ad absurdum.
	You're going to love them.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate the gift.
	That's very kind.
	All right, cool.
	And wait, so did you say where you were from?
	I was so focused on your books.
	Okay, you're from Colorado.
	Got it.
	Perfect.
	And did you get like a degree from somewhere?
	I mean, I got an associate's degree.
	Associate degree, yeah.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	All right, cool.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am in a relationship and I've been with him since last October.
	All right.
	So eight months.
	What?
	Eight months?
	Yeah.
	Or what hit?
	Yeah, okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	2.5 years.
	Okay.
	From what age to what age was that relationship?
	That was 16 till 18.
	Okay.
	How soon after that breakup did you meet your current boyfriend?
	I met him last June, so it took a couple months.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who in the 2.5 year relationship?
	I broke up with him.
	It was a domestic relationship.
	It was pretty bad, actually.
	Oh, so you were abusing him or her?
	Oh, no.
	Oh, you think?
	No, he was abusing me, but.
	Oh, you said domestic violence.
	Yeah, he came on me.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I got my, I got a couple hits in for sure.
	Oh, for sure.
	But he got, you know, he got a little more than me.
	So yeah, I loved him.
	Okay, so he was the aggressor.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then how long have you been doing the OnlyFans?
	Since last December, you know, it's recent.
	It's new.
	So you met your current boyfriend and then you were not doing sex work, but now you're doing sex work.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so I started it with him last December, mid-December.
	Mm-hmm.
	Was he like pushing you to start it?
	No, it was my idea.
	It was your idea.
	I was actually working for him.
	He was my boss.
	I was working in automotive and sales.
	I really like cars, but then I just kind of got bored and I made it and that was kind of it and it kind of worked.
	So I started using what was at my hands, you know?
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	How long have you been single?
	Basically all my life.
	I had situationships, but never really had a real relationship.
	Okay.
	And what about the trees?
	Weren't you in love with a tree?
	Yeah, I'm still in love with him.
	I still go see him.
	Him.
	Yeah.
	How do you know?
	Well, I guess trees do have a sex, right?
	Yeah.
	Do you check?
	How do you check the sex of a tree?
	I believe that majority of trees that are just planted around are male.
	They're mostly male.
	Yeah, they're mostly male.
	That's why pollen is so, the pollen from the trees are so, like, picked up.
	Okay, how many relationships with trees have you had?
	Um.
	Well, it just depends on what type of relationship we're talking about.
	Like I have sexual relationships.
	I don't have sexual relationships, but I have like one that I like, I call my babe, and then the other ones I like go and see as like an ancestor type of thing, or like I look at his as a friend or whatever.
	So like a giving tree situation?
	Sure.
	So what's up?
	If you found out the tree was a woman, would you consider yourself bi?
	I wouldn't care.
	Has a tree ever cheated on you?
	I mean, probably.
	More than likely.
	It's the roots.
	Oh, it's the roots.
	Yeah.
	They communicate through their roots, so whatever is probably already always there is probably communicating to like the other trees around.
	Like, this crazy bitch keeps coming over and calling me babe.
	You know what I mean?
	But I love it, so it's whatever.
	It's whatever.
	Wait, so, okay, to be clear, though, you have been single your entire life.
	Yeah.
	You've never, what's the longest period of time you've dated a guy?
	Six, eight months.
	Six, eight months, but you didn't call him boyfriend, girlfriend?
	No, I don't really look to date like that.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Have you ever told a guy or girl you love them?
	No.
	Okay, so you've never been in love?
	Have you been in love with a tree?
	I love all trees, yeah.
	No, love, like, I get, but love in love.
	In love.
	In love.
	Well, maybe.
	It depends.
	It depends on like the type of tree that, because listen, I'm weird, so don't, like, don't let me get into it, because then I'll start devil into like different things, and you're gonna be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	That totally.
	Relationship.
	Yeah.
	Like, what was the question?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'll respond.
	I can see how that could throw you off.
	I'll repeat it.
	So, relationship status.
	Okay.
	I'm currently dating exclusively and I am technically legally married right now.
	Technically legally.
	Wait, it's okay.
	But you're not currently dating the guy who you're technically legally married to.
	I've been trying to divorce him for two years now.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Wait, so Sha'am, how long have you been seeing this current guy?
	About three, four months now.
	Okay.
	And longest relationship was the marriage.
	The marriage.
	Okay.
	How long have you guys been separated?
	Two years.
	Two, three years.
	Two to three.
	Okay.
	And you're Muslim, is that correct?
	I am.
	As-salamu alaykum.
	uh how long have you been has it been your whole life that you're no i reverted about six years ago Okay.
	Was your husband, is he Muslim?
	He says he is.
	What do you mean he says he is?
	What does that mean?
	Because to be Muslim, you have to, you know, have some character developments there, and they weren't there during our relationship.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Is your current boyfriend or whatever the guy you're dating, is he Muslim?
	He's not.
	He's not.
	Okay.
	Is that a problem for you, I guess?
	It is.
	Technically in Islam, you're not allowed to marry a man that isn't Muslim.
	What about a tree?
	I don't think that's been recorded in the Hadith, like a situation like that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	All right.
	We'll get into some of that stuff in a bit, but what about you?
	Well, longest relationship was my marriage.
	I've been married twice, one for 13 years and the other one from a start to divorce like eight years.
	Technically, these two were the longest relationships that I've ever had.
	I haven't been in, and I'm single right now.
	You're single now?
	Yeah.
	And I haven't been out of marriage.
	I haven't been actually in a relationship, to be honest with you.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single?
	Since 2018.
	So let's say, what, seven years?
	Yeah, willingly single.
	What do you mean willingly single?
	It's for me is just not easy to accept people in my life.
	It's not that easy.
	It has to take its time and there's no rush for it.
	And I've been busy with business and basically.
	You have kids, right?
	Yeah, I have a daughter.
	She's 25.
	Just one kid?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And is that from your first marriage or your second marriage?
	First marriage.
	First marriage.
	Okay.
	And then I'm trying to think here.
	Nope, that's not going to get me.
	So one kid, have you been, wait, have you not dated anybody?
	You said you've been single for seven years.
	Have you not dated anybody for seven years?
	Yeah.
	So you've been, have you been celibate for seven years?
	You could say that, yeah.
	What do you mean?
	I could say that.
	There are things you do to take care of yourself that you need.
	You do that, but with somebody, no.
	No.
	Okay.
	And I, and it's because I'm just the, I have my own weird ways of doing things, which is um, I rather be on my own than being with someone around someone that I have to tolerate them.
	So I don't.
	I don't think you have to tolerate anybody.
	You have to.
	I believe you have to be willingly, want to be around someone and whenever you want and, and it's just not something you can find in everybody.
	So you, you have to take your time.
	You have to just get to the point that you want to be available or somebody, or find someone that would want to willingly be around you.
	I don't like these social contracts of the way people do it.
	It just doesn't work for me.
	So, no rush, see what happens, okay.
	Um, and so two marriages, uh, who initiated the divorce in the first marriage?
	Me, who initiated the divorce in the second marriage?
	It was mutual, both of us, and we are best friends now, me and my ex.
	Okay um, all right, and so one mutual.
	Why did you initiate the first one?
	Uh, we were just two different people, completely different people.
	I'm optimistic positive, I love life, I try to see beauty and things and um, we were just different.
	He was uh, negative and um, the energy was just got to the point that I didn't want to be around that energy.
	I couldn't be around that energy anymore.
	I see okay yeah, all right, what about you?
	I'm taken, i'm in a relationship it's my first ever one and same guy.
	Yeah okay, how long have you guys been together?
	We've been together for one year and five months now.
	Gotcha and he's the.
	There's been a bit of confusion as to like, is he the Christian nationalist guy or?
	Yeah, did I think originally, maybe you misspoke, you said he was a white.
	Uh well, those things go hand in hand.
	But like okay, got it usually, but christian nationalist got it okay um, can someone explain what that is?
	What is a Christian nationalist?
	Explain what it?
	Um, so a white Christian nationalist would want to maintain America majority white.
	Basically wow, you don't consider yourself?
	Well what, what's your nationality?
	What's your ethnicity?
	I'm, my ethnicity is Korean, but i'm, I have a U.s passport.
	Do you not consider yourself a minority?
	Well, I am a minority, so how do you feel about dating someone who's a white nationalist, who wants to maintain America to be majority white?
	Um uh, I mean, i'm i'm not into politics like that too much, but I don't really care about what he supports.
	That, like, is that the insinuation that he'd prefer to be majority white?
	You don't think that that's disrespectful towards you at all?
	No, I mean, he's not saying it has to be 100 white, but what's the motive there?
	Is there like, why is that?
	You know what's the difference between diversity and preserved culture?
	What culture?
	All but like just curious of your mindset.
	Are you willing to get plastic surgery to make your face more white?
	I'm open to plastic surgery.
	I actually would love to get a nose job done, but it's not to make myself more white.
	It's just because that's a phenomenon in Korea, isn't it?
	I mean, yes, I guess if you were to kind of deeply analyze the culture, but I just want to do it to make myself look better.
	You're beautiful the way you are.
	MashaAllah.
	Sure.
	Any question?
	Okay.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	And speak into the mic loud.
	You're a comedian, right?
	I'm nervous.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just let it out.
	This is my debut.
	Loud.
	Yeah.
	So my longest relationship was 10 years.
	That was my last relationship.
	I've been single for six months.
	Okay.
	I'm currently on a break right now, but my longest relationship is this one.
	Almost two years.
	Nice.
	I have been with my wife for nine years now, and we have three kids.
	But that tree thing.
	How do you has me second guessing?
	How do you feel about being married for nine years in this day and age?
	I feel like a boomer.
	Honestly, I look out on the street here and I'm like, I don't know how you guys do it today.
	Like I was lucky to get out of that, honestly.
	And I'm actually not sure why so little amount of people aren't pursuing, you know, a marriage, something stable, you know, roots in the ground.
	Why are people running around dating if isn't the ultimate goal of dating, if it works out, is to settle down?
	Like what else would the goal be?
	I just had a conversation with someone literally this morning at like four o'clock in the morning about how having a child is a bigger commitment than getting married, but everyone is having children and not getting married.
	Doesn't make any sense to me.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, I mean, does anyone want to answer that?
	If they think that like dating is just for fun, if you find the perfect person, isn't doesn't it just follow that you build something with that person?
	Like, of course.
	Does it just stay like neutral?
	I feel like sometimes though, like especially people younger, you know, if they don't wait a while, they have a different perspective on it.
	They don't, they like, they'll choose something they like over something they love and within five minutes.
	And I think that's why a lot of relationships on either side tend to fail at this day and age because of literally that they find something they like more than whatever they love.
	So short-term choices?
	Yeah.
	Impulsive decisions.
	Yeah.
	I mean, short-term choices, I think, can ruin someone's, not their life, it could ruin their life, but it ruins their prospect for the future.
	Because I mean, I've, in my perspective, I feel like dating somebody is just like every day you wake up and you're like, I'm going to date this person.
	And then turns out it's eight years later, nine years later.
	And just that is commitment in itself.
	And it's, in a sense, pretty easy.
	I just feel like a lot of people don't view it that way, you know.
	But considering the topic, don't you think that it's possible that you, you personally, the choice you're making to do what you're doing now, would you say that's a short-term choice as opposed to a long-term choice?
	Like you mean by my boyfriend or pornography, OnlyFans, adult content?
	I do view it as short-term.
	Obviously, I don't think longevity would work, but I do think I have a certain plan with it where I can make it work towards longevity.
	I'm not just jumping into it because it's a money grab.
	I am actually kind of looking at it as a business opportunity.
	So I think if done well, with me and whoever else who does it, I think it can be done right and not cringy or however people view it.
	It can be done a certain way.
	Do you think it minimizes the potential pool of men in this case who would settle down with you and make a family?
	No.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'd say that with a little bit of a grain of salt because I mean, I already have a boyfriend, you know, and we're already pretty serious and I'm pretty sure all that stuff's already locked in.
	But there is a part, you know, where it's if I started, you know, oh, I don't know if I can say what started.
	I don't know if I can say it.
	Whenever I started it, if I was single, maybe there might be a problem, you know?
	So it kind of depends on your situation.
	You know, if you want to start it, but you're single, then have that in the back of your mind.
	You might not find someone because, yeah, some guys might not be fine with it.
	You know, I had a boyfriend before and we talked about it.
	It wasn't in the plan.
	So I didn't do it, but sometimes it just happens, you know.
	But my boyfriend's much older than me, too, so he has a different view on things.
	How much older is he?
	Sorry.
	That's okay.
	My boyfriend's in his 30s.
	Like late, like how 30s?
	He's mid-30s, so like 35.
	And so you were in a relationship when you started?
	Yeah, so he was my boss.
	I was working in sales for him in automotive.
	And then just randomly one day I kind of got bored and I made the account.
	And whenever I started posting on it, my other social medias kind of jumped on it and it worked.
	And it's kind of been nothing but improving.
	So I just keep going with it.
	Improving, you mean making more money?
	Statistics all over.
	You know, it's not necessarily about the money either.
	I like the impression I give.
	I try not to come off on social media.
	So I'm just that content creator.
	You know, I like having other stuff like my cars.
	You know, I like to do stuff on my cars and all that stuff.
	So I try not to be viewed that way because I feel like there can be a fine line with it and I'm trying to get right in the middle of it.
	And how long have you been doing comedy?
	I haven't really.
	I've been doing it since like August.
	I actually didn't even know.
	Live streams are always white noise to me.
	Because I'm like, why wouldn't I just 2x it later?
	And then I realized I could go in the chat.
	Have you done it?
	That's really sad.
	Have you gone up in front of physical people?
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Not happening.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's going to be required if you want to call yourself a stand-up comic, at least.
	I don't want to be a stand-up comic.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Sorry, guys.
	I had to step away momentarily.
	So, okay, Felicity, you're on a break, and then you're also single, correct?
	How long?
	Single?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	I did want to start off with.
	Let's see.
	You said you're in an age gap relationship.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	What's the age gap?
	17 years, I think.
	Okay, so you're 19 and he's 36?
	Yeah.
	Wait, did I get that right?
	Yep.
	So my math is mathing.
	All right.
	And is he a white guy?
	No, he's a black guy.
	We have a picture.
	Not of him.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	What the fuck?
	Honest?
	And that was on your Twitter.
	Yeah.
	I got to be honest.
	I think any, like, if you ever get out of the OF.
	Well, just the, just all the OF stuff, but like that picture, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of guys.
	What's going to be a problem?
	Just that picture.
	It's going to be a problem.
	I don't understand the... That picture...
	Honestly, all the pictures.
	The OF stuff, I think it's going to be, it's going to make dating a little harder.
	I'm not really worried about it.
	I don't know why I pulled that shit up, but what?
	Like, it's okay, because I'm not really worried about it.
	And like, even if me and him break up, which we more than likely won't, but if we do, that's okay.
	I will literally live by myself because I already have a cat, so I'm technically fine.
	Okay.
	Honestly, I think it does more good than does harm.
	Sweet.
	When you're doing OF stuff with your partners, do you ever think about your kids, like future children?
	Honestly, I don't really want kids.
	I mean, I thought about it, but not really.
	I grew up where all my sisters kind of had kids really early on.
	So it wasn't really something I wanted to do.
	And I did think about it.
	If I did, I would make sure OF is long gone.
	You know, I wouldn't have social media.
	I'd make sure my kids wouldn't have it until they were old enough to process if they found out.
	And if I did do that, then oh well.
	You know, if they found out, they'd realize while they were in a condo in Miami.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's okay.
	Good times.
	Cool.
	Here, I need to go over a couple things really quick.
	Anthony, he bought something from our shop, shop.whatever.com, sent in a donation also.
	Still hoping to find a decent girlfriend.
	Any suggestions?
	Oh, wait, did it not show up?
	Hold on.
	Oh, it did pop up.
	Okay, I'm tripping.
	Yo, Anthony, thank you for that.
	I think he bought a sweater.
	Unfortunately, Streamlabs, it doesn't show the actual item, but he bought a sweater, sweatshirt, hoodie from the whatever shop.
	So thank you, man.
	I really appreciate it, Anthony.
	Okay, so good times.
	I wanted to come back to you.
	Uh-oh.
	Do you go to, like, so I'm not really super familiar with Islam, the faith.
	Do you go to like a mosque every day?
	The masjid?
	Yes.
	Wait, can you open all the way?
	All the way.
	Just open.
	So you go on, is it Sundays or?
	Fridays, Jummah.
	Fridays, okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, and we were, we had you scheduled like, was it two weeks ago, three weeks ago?
	But like, is it still Ramadan?
	No, Ramadan ended March 29th.
	March 29th.
	Okay, so you were like fasting.
	I was fasting.
	Yes.
	What is the, isn't the fasting though?
	It's like just through the day or through sunlight or some shit.
	Yeah, so sunrise, which is Fajr.
	It's around, it was like around 5.40-ish in the morning.
	And then you get to eat again at Maghrib, which is around 7 p.m.
	So, and it differentiates based on the time zone and like where you're at in the world in the sun.
	Does in Islam, are you allowed to have premarital sex?
	Absolutely not.
	That was my question.
	Are you?
	Are you currently having?
	If you want me to reveal my sins online, I totally am engaging in premarital sex.
	Yeah.
	So how do you reconcile the whole Islam thing with the you ask for forgiveness, I pray.
	But I mean, here, maybe you should weigh in.
	Isn't there like a component?
	I mean, even in the Christian faith, You're supposed to be striving towards and not making continuous yeah.
	I mean, I don't know the Islam uh distinction for repentance or anything or confession, but um, you know, um, but also isn't under the Islam view, is is it don't you hold the view that Allah dictates all?
	What do you mean by that?
	That Allah dictates everything.
	So it's like that, like uh, that even your sins would be ultimately dictated by by God.
	Judged, absolutely.
	No, actually dictated, like, like oh, like written like determined free will versus okay, yeah, yeah.
	Um, yes, we believe that your life was already written before.
	So, Allah had you doing premarital sex already anyway, so he needs to, you need, you need to forgive him.
	Um, no, I mean, no, I, he, he has also written for me to ask for forgiveness.
	So, while I'm sinning, I'm also, it's written for me to be asking for so you didn't you don't forgive using your own free will then.
	It's actually just like a sort of like a tentacle of God, it's like he's wiggling, you know, like he, in other words, any movement or thought you have or action you have was already destined to happen and dictated and written by Allah, correct, including the worst of sins, the worst of the worst.
	Do you think it might impede?
	Um, I know your boyfriend's kind of lukewarm about it.
	Do you think that might help or hurt?
	What do you mean?
	Like, the premarital sex.
	Like, do you, are you asking me if he would be bothered by that being a role?
	Or, like, what do you mean?
	Well, you said he was like kind of lukewarm, or he, no, that was your last boyfriend, right?
	My husband.
	Her husband, yes.
	Yes, he, um, yes, my husband.
	Um, he was not practicing 100%.
	And I think that everyone struggles in their religions and just in general, generally speaking.
	I think it's kind of odd that Islam is viewed as like maybe it's because the women cover up, but like they're viewed at a higher standard.
	Like, even in Christianity, you're supposed to cover up and you don't see women walking around in like none outfits.
	You know what I mean?
	I totally agree.
	So, it's kind of odd that that's how things are.
	It's like you have to strive for perfection, you know, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	So, wait, so I was, I saw your Instagram.
	Uh, can we pull up the Instagram?
	All right, there it is.
	Um, scroll down a little bit.
	What?
	Pause, pause, scroll back.
	Whoa, up, scroll up.
	Okay, wait, so don't scroll back down yet, but that one in the bottom left.
	Well, the okay, fuck it, scroll down, bro.
	That's looking right down Main Street, right down Main Street.
	If that's where your eyes are gonna go, then that's where your eyes are gonna go.
	It's not my fault.
	How do you, how do you reconcile Islam?
	That's crazy.
	And just spread legs spread.
	She already said Allah pre-wrote her Instagram account to do that.
	Yeah, technically.
	So Allah is showing up.
	Also, I'd say that.
	How does accountability exist within the religion then?
	What do you mean?
	How does accountability?
	I think the accountability is.
	What's the point of repentance or Where's the commitment to the religion?
	If it's just the word, so it's just the word.
	So you can just say, I was born as a Muslim, but then I want to do whatever I want to do.
	But why stick into that when you want to do this?
	Where is the line?
	I think that people, or I would say that I am Muslim, I'm not Islam.
	So Islam is perfect and I'm not perfect.
	And I think that especially as someone who, as a woman who is going through divorce, I think I'm expressing my empowerment in a different way.
	And my Instagram did not look like that nine months ago.
	I think I've overgone like a transformation of some sort.
	Can you tell me though, because if you hold an Islam view, ultimately something like empowerment would have to be filtered through the Muslim view, right?
	So can you tell me how a picture like that is considered empowerment under Islam?
	I don't think I hold the Islamic perspective because I'm not Islam.
	I'm a Muslim.
	That's like me saying I'm a Christian, but I don't hold to Christian doctrine.
	No, that's not like you saying that.
	What I'm saying is I have a human way of thinking and my human way of thinking is not as perfect as the Islamic law.
	But you know, so are you saying that's not empowerment?
	No, I'm saying that my woman empowerment and how I view it is completely separate from Islam and how they view woman empowerment.
	Women empowerment through Islam is projected to be hijab, fully covered, with staining from sex, you wait until you're married, all that.
	Okay, separate from Islam, what do you think woman empowerment actually is then from your view?
	In this day and age, I definitely think it's owning who you are, owning who you are, owning your body, owning your right to choose.
	I think that while we have religious beliefs in general, it doesn't fully align with current day and age.
	And it takes a special kind of person to be able to persevere through, am I allowed to cuss?
	I don't know if I'm allowed to cuss, but like be like, fuck what's going on in this day and age.
	I'm going to just fully be submerged in my religion.
	That takes a special kind of human being.
	And I have my flesh too.
	Like I'm not perfect.
	Like I said, I'm not Islam.
	I'm a Muslim.
	It seems like this day and age, what you're doing is actually the easier thing to do.
	And the rebellious thing to do in this day and age is actually be humble and subtle, right?
	That seems to be harder, especially in the West.
	I agree.
	Did you agree?
	I agree.
	To be modest is actually the challenge.
	So that's why I think like empowerment, if empowerment for women means basically share your body and call it liberation, I think it's easy to do that.
	It doesn't take much.
	So that's why I'm like wondering how could someone call it empowerment if it's so easy to do.
	I disagree with that only because a lot of women, a lot of people are not confident and comfortable with their bodies.
	Well, if someone's uncomfortable in principle in showing their body, would you equate that with that they're not confident in their body?
	Because I could see how someone could be confident in their body but just not share it with the entire world.
	That's why I said it's and not like or because you could be confident with your body and be uncomfortable showing it or you can be comfortable with your body and be uncomfortable showing it.
	Okay.
	Are you committed to marrying or remarrying a Muslim man?
	Yes, I'm still Muslim and I still would like to marry a Muslim man.
	But a liberated, empowered man who likes his wife half naked spread eagle on Instagram.
	Because just to call you out, you called her out for correctly so, by the way.
	You said, don't you think what you're doing now could affect the future of the world?
	I didn't call you.
	I didn't call you out.
	I was asking you a question.
	Well, no, it's a good question.
	I don't know about that.
	You are okay.
	No, it's right.
	I'm not saying it like confrontational.
	I'm saying that that's a good question.
	But you need to ask yourself the same question specifically because if you're looking for a Muslim man, they're going to be even more rigorous than the modern man that you're probably questioning her about.
	When he sees that, you know, what is he going?
	What is this potential strict, let's say a strict Muslim practitioner is going to say about that?
	I don't think with where I'm at in my life, I don't think I would be in a situation where I'd be married to a strict Muslim man.
	So a weak Muslim man.
	I wouldn't say weak either.
	I think there's different levels of commitment in religion across the board.
	And this is, and it is currently a conversation on my Instagram.
	I don't hide that I'm Muslim.
	I say, alhamdulillah, Slakhfila, like all, I speak it in my regular everyday speech.
	And it just, it stands that regardless of what religious belief that you say you have, I think everyone struggles in some perspective.
	Do you think there's as many forms of Islam as there are people?
	What do you mean?
	I mean, you're saying, well, there's a wide spectrum of people's beliefs and how they hold or practice Islam, but that kind of says that it's like relativist.
	It's like, it's like there's no right way.
	Do you hold, are you willing to say that there's no right, correct way to practice Islam?
	No, when I, well, let me rephrase what I said.
	When I say everyone has religious beliefs, I'd mean Christianity, Judaism, whatever you believe in, you're not perfect in your religion.
	So I wasn't saying that there's, you could worship in Islam any type of way you want to.
	No.
	What's wrong is wrong.
	And I don't think that what I'm doing on my Instagram is 100% correct.
	No.
	But I also have myself in my flesh in the things that I struggle with.
	Would you put a percent on incorrect that it is?
	It would be 100% incorrect.
	From an Islam view.
	From an Islamic view of how a Muslim should be dressed, absolutely 100% incorrect.
	If you want to talk about intention, though, that's a completely different story.
	What is the intention with that kind of content?
	As I stated, woman empowerment.
	I think, you know, I wasn't asked why I'm going through a divorce, but men have a way of completely breaking you if you allow them to on a spiritual, mental, emotional, sometimes even physical level.
	And I was in a marriage where I got broken into pieces, and I allowed him to do that because when you're married to someone, you become immersed in each other's lives, and you, it's very hard to find that separation line.
	And it took me a long time to even get to where I'm at and be comfortable with my body and confident in it enough to even post something like that.
	I know, but it's just weird because before you criticize this man for being like a lukewarm Muslim, but your reaction to it, your empowerment reaction, your very definition of empowerment is lukewarm Islam.
	I disagree with that too, because Islam is not just how you look, it's about how you treat people.
	But how you treat yourself.
	But isn't there an element of treating yourself a certain way?
	I don't think, I don't feel in my heart of hearts that I'm mistreating myself.
	But Islam and what is more important from my perspective is how you go about treating humanity over how you look.
	Because I could look Muslim and be a complete asshole.
	I think you're kind of picking and choosing what you want from the religion when you're actually one foot in and one foot out.
	How so when I said my Instagram was 100% wrong?
	Wait, say that again?
	I said my Instagram and how it looks was 100% wrong in terms of Islam, Islamic rules.
	So how am I picking it?
	You're still choosing to post those kind of pictures.
	Because I have weaknesses as a human being.
	And that's how I'm going about portraying myself.
	But how I'm portraying myself is not Islamic and it is wrong.
	I didn't pick and choose anything.
	You're not making an action though.
	You're not consciously like choosing to align yourself with the laws of your religion.
	What do you mean?
	It's in a contradiction.
	She's saying it's also a contradiction.
	In one sentence, you're saying this is 100% wrong and I know it.
	And you're calling yourself a Muslim.
	And then premise two is this is empowering.
	So both of those can't be true if you call yourself a Muslim.
	That's incorrect because I would pose the same question to Christians that drink excessively or do drugs but want to call themselves Christians.
	The fact of the matter is religion, one of the reasons it exists is because we are all not perfect and we're striving to be perfect.
	That's not a good analogy though, because a Christian who's a drunkard, which means that he's incapable of fulfilling his duties, not to say someone getting drunk is un-Christian.
	It's that the perpetuation of disabling yourself such that you can't fulfill your duties, that would be un-Christian.
	But even in that example, that Christian would only, it would only be analogous for you to say that if they said, this is empowering.
	You lost me a little bit.
	They would have to say being drunk, which is antithetical to Christianity, being a drunkard, if they said it's empowering.
	That's what you're saying about those pictures.
	So you're saying it's totally wrong and inconsistent with Islam, but you're saying it's empowering, whereas the drunkard Christian is not saying it's empowering.
	They're not defending it.
	They're just saying they're weak and they need help and they will repent.
	You're not saying any of that.
	You're just saying I'm empowered.
	I'm saying that on a flesh level and how I think in this worldly society, it is empowering to me.
	If on an Islamic level, that's a completely different conversation and it's 100% incorrect.
	That's where you lost me when you were like, oh, you're picking, choosing stuff from the religion.
	No, I'm not.
	It's 100% wrong to post stuff like that on Instagram.
	It's 100% wrong for me to be sitting here on this podcast with my hair exposed.
	It's 100%.
	How do you define empowerment?
	I would define empowerment by anything that liberates you as the person you want to be.
	So I'm a woman.
	Anything that is liberating me as a woman in today's society, I would define as empowering.
	Can I add something?
	I think everyone's just having a hard time because like you judged your ex-husband for not being a strong Muslim.
	So it's like, you know?
	I judged him for how he treated people, not how he looked.
	Well, not on the way that he looks, but I'm just saying like the fact that you're saying like.
	What she's saying is, what if your ex said treating people that way he found empowering?
	As a man, you know, like, you know, aggressive man mistreating people, you know, yelling, whatever he's doing, right?
	Like the fact that you're the way that you're presenting yourself online.
	Like, I don't have a problem with it, by the way.
	I don't give a fuck.
	But like the way that you're presenting yourself, that you're not a strong like Muslim, like the way that you portrayed him earlier.
	You know what I mean?
	I would say that you're entitled to your opinion and I wouldn't argue with that.
	However, I think Islam, I think all religions, well, we're talking about Islam.
	Let me not make this for all religions.
	In Islam, it is more important how you go about treating people and how you maneuver through the world than how you look.
	That's a superficial.
	What is that written in the book of Islam?
	Is what written in the book?
	Are you talking about the Quran?
	Or the Quran, yeah.
	That treating people in kindness is more important than being modest.
	No, it doesn't say that.
	I can't.
	So then why are you making the judgment?
	I'm making the judgment because if I decide to come over there and like do something to you physically, wouldn't that be worse than me just sitting here looking like this?
	That's coming from your own mind, though.
	God should be the judge of whether or not...
	Do you want to ask him?
	Would you like to ask?
	Well, we already asked.
	We already established.
	That's why it's kind of a roundabout argument because ultimately Islam holds that it's all determined.
	So even for you to say these pictures are inconsistent with Islam, for me, I would critique and say, well, they can't be inconsistent because those pictures were determined and written by Allah anyway.
	So that can't be inconsistent with Islam.
	Allah is determining the way your husband treated other people and you posting those photos.
	It is inconsistent with Islam because my life story and my husband's life story and all the Muslims' life stories are not the Quran.
	It's not the hadith.
	It's not Islamic law.
	Like, we have our own journeys.
	So yeah, it's like subject.
	You have a subjective.
	You're basically writing your own religion inside of your religion, right?
	Allah wrote my life story inside of Islam.
	Right.
	So then it's not inconsistent.
	It's a determinist view that says Allah, being the dictator of all, pointed and made it so before you even did it that you would do those pictures.
	So in a sense, a shortcut would be to say Allah posted those pictures, correct?
	No, I posted those pictures.
	No, but Allah used you to post those pictures, right?
	In some perspectives, yeah, if you want to view it that way.
	And to your point, I do remember it does say there are ayahs, which is like a verse in the Quran that does say that all sins are not equal.
	It doesn't directly say that modesty is more important than how you treat people, but it does say that sins are not all equal.
	Would you say you have a personal relationship with God?
	Absolutely.
	And I don't think my relationship with Allah should be judged by my Instagram.
	Okay.
	How should your relationship be judged by?
	I actually think it's inappropriate for you to use a photo to say whether someone is.
	No, no, no.
	My question was then how should a person I don't think you should judge.
	I don't think you should judge.
	How should Allah judge your photos being that he crafted them himself?
	I think Allah is going to judge me on not just the photos, but also the intent behind me posting the photos and what led from me posting those photos, meaning like what the reaction from the public.
	I'm going to be judged by what people thought, the thoughts that I provoked, and what people did with those photos.
	So then why do the laws of Islam exist in the first place?
	What do you mean?
	If God judges you just based off your instagram religion, why saying that you're Muslim?
	Why just don't break the barrier and say, I don't believe in religion.
	I do whatever I want to do.
	Is that the question you meant to ask?
	Or like, are these two different questions?
	Sort of, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm more, well, first of all, when I was 25, I had a break.
	I don't know who, I don't know if anyone said they graduated from college with like a bachelor's degree, but like once you graduate, I was so depressed.
	Like I lost, like I think when you're in college, it kind of like has a way of making you feel like that's the world, but then you graduate and you're actually exposed to the real world.
	And I like had a break.
	When I was Christian, I was so dedicated.
	I went to Wednesday after church.
	I went to Sunday, like Sunday church and all that stuff with my mom.
	I read the Bible.
	I did research on Christianity.
	I even took a class in college.
	And after I graduated, it just wasn't resonating with me.
	I felt really lost.
	And I was like, I need to find something to believe in.
	And I did research and Islam resonated with me the most.
	It's a religion of logic.
	So you couldn't do it.
	It's a religion of logic, but there's a contradiction in it.
	No, wait, so you convert.
	Wait, hold on, let me say this.
	There's no contradiction because it's wrong.
	If I decided to take a shot right now on the stream, it can't be wrong.
	No, it can't be wrong if Allah dictated it.
	Allah can write for you to sin just for it to be a piece in the story of something hello.
	But that means Allah sins.
	That's a contradiction.
	No, Allah is not me.
	Is Allah the source, is Allah's nature the nature of good?
	You guys, I do not subscribe to this conversation.
	I'm just saying, you said it there's no contradiction, but as soon as you say you're a Muslim, and then as soon as you start saying, well, what I believe isn't Islam, I am my own person.
	You're basically taking a Disney character approach to your own religion.
	No, no, no.
	But we're calling you out and saying, if you're going to declare that you're ex, you know, on whatever here, millions of people, millions of Muslims perhaps even listening, they're going to say, in reference to what, are you calling yourself Muslim?
	And if you don't say Islam, then I'm not sure what you're saying you are, which is what she's asking.
	Or what do you ask?
	Why call yourself something that you're not willing to hold yourself to?
	Because you're basically crafting an avatar called you and going, well, I don't need to follow this.
	This is my own journey.
	I'm liberated.
	And then, but you're saying, but I'm still part of this beautiful religion.
	This is a contradiction.
	You can't have both of those things.
	It's not a contradiction.
	You could have a perfect rulebook of how you should go about living your life and do your best to strive by that perfect rulebook.
	It's a guideline.
	Like, I don't hope.
	In some ways, yes, absolutely.
	How easy would it be to take all those photos down?
	That's not hard.
	It's not hard, but it's connected to my poetry.
	Wait, I'm just aware of that.
	Poetry.
	It is.
	One sec.
	One sec.
	I do have a question on this.
	So if there was like a, I don't know what the specific terminology is, but like, let's say there was a scholar of Islam here.
	Like, what are the names of the priests?
	Mufti, Sheikh.
	Yeah, and if he was here and he was very clear with you, he was like, yeah, this is in contravention of the faith.
	Would you dispute him on that?
	Or would you be like, no, you're right.
	No, absolutely not.
	And then so the cure to, I guess you're acknowledged, is it a sin?
	Is that how you would categorize it?
	Haram?
	Wouldn't the cure simply be to remove the photos from your Instagram?
	Yeah.
	So, but you're...
	Well, no, no, no.
	Actually, I take that back to you.
	You're just like kind of willfully continue.
	Like, wouldn't the proper procedure be, oh, I've now made a determination and an acknowledgement that this is a sin or haram.
	But what is stopping you from just, I mean, the actual physical labor of getting your phone, going on your Instagram, just deleting it.
	It seems to me like the threshold to actually just ceasing the sinning is pretty low.
	I think we're having a conversation about looking Muslim and then behaving like that.
	That's a behavior.
	A photograph of yourself is a behavior.
	Yeah, but if I take those down, you're saying I'll look more Muslim, but I still will have the same.
	No, you'll have a proclivity, right?
	Toward certain things.
	Because you're calling it poetry.
	Honestly, I think that's a cop-out.
	But even if I gave you that, right?
	I just gave you, okay, it's poetry.
	There's a way to do poetry and speak your thoughts and feelings into existence.
	There's so many ways that aren't that.
	In fact, the more creative ways move away from that way, because that's the easy way.
	Guess what?
	Someone could do the same photos who looks just like you, right?
	Like a doppelganger.
	They do the same exact thing, right?
	Imagine that existed.
	How would you know the difference between the Muslim and the non-Muslim if there was exactly your Instagram, but it was someone else doing the same exact photos?
	You're not supposed to because you're not a law and you don't know what I do off of Instagram.
	I'm saying that if that's poetry, is there not other ways that you can say poetry through actions that aren't that, such that you're more consistent with Islam?
	Sure.
	So why wouldn't you do that if it's possible?
	You're not that weak, right?
	You're too weak to suppress your poetry?
	Like, is that what it is?
	I think that I have a way that I want to express myself to the world, and I'm doing that.
	And this conversation about contradicting myself, I'm a bit confused because I'm saying that there are perfect guidelines in Islam, and my Instagram is not Islamic.
	Like, I'm agreeing with that.
	So there's no contradiction.
	We'll come right back to it, but I'm going to let this come through.
	$200.
	Share two, do you get consent with the trees?
	Is that great?
	Or at least non-consensual relationship?
	Islam lady, repent and believe the gospel.
	W Jesus Christ.
	Okay, call me King.
	Thank you for the $200 TTS.
	Really appreciate it.
	Do you want to respond?
	Yeah, I get consent.
	The trees speak to you.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, first here.
	I've had like trees grow towards me and stuff like that.
	But I'm not out here like effing trees.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm just going up.
	Yeah, but what about basic firewood?
	I mean, you don't have to F a tree to take its goods.
	What does that mean?
	I mean, if you needed firewood from one of your good friends, if you know what I mean, could you just break off a branch?
	No, I'm good.
	It's like giving trees.
	Well, sometimes, actually.
	Not a branch, but.
	We're not going to linger on it for too long.
	So if there was a Mufti, is that what they're calling?
	A Mufti Sheikh.
	Sheikh?
	Sheikh.
	What is it?
	Sheikh.
	Shaykh.
	I don't know.
	Sitting right here.
	And he commanded you.
	Is that what he would do?
	He did command.
	He's like, listen, you got to take that down.
	Would you do it?
	No.
	Wait, hold on.
	Not just like two white guys here, but like an actual.
	He's a Christian.
	I don't know anything really about Islam.
	Okay.
	A representative, someone from, do they have ecclesiastical?
	Is that a thing?
	I don't know.
	I was born and raised as Muslim, by the way.
	Oh, okay.
	So you might know a bit about this.
	But you had a Mufti sitting here, sitting where I'm sitting.
	Hold on, we got to split this.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	It's going crazy.
	Okay.
	And he said, this is haram.
	This is in contravention of Islam.
	You got to take it down.
	You wouldn't do it.
	No.
	You have to be.
	Who then?
	What level of somebody in the clergy or whatever it's called in Islam would have to tell you what you're doing is wrong?
	You have a cure.
	And when I say cure, you have a fix to the sin or the haram.
	What?
	Yeah, do they have excommunication or they just use a sword?
	You have to be ready to change in order for it not to happen again.
	And someone forcing you to do something is not going to shift a mindset.
	Like, I could delete my Instagram, but the reason why my Instagram looks like that doesn't just fade away because I deleted myself.
	I got a couple other things.
	We've got some other things we've got to pull up.
	We've got a couple videos here.
	Why don't we pull it up?
	You can always archive.
	Oh, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	So that's your Instagram.
	Mike, keep going, keep going.
	No, too fast, too fast.
	Go back up.
	Go back up.
	Okay.
	Up, up.
	Oh, thank you.
	Okay, pause there.
	Click on that one with the flower.
	Yeah.
	Is that it?
	Are you wearing a hijab?
	No.
	Is that a hijab?
	No, that's not a hijab.
	Oh, okay.
	Would that be discarded?
	This is a scarf.
	No, that's not a hijab.
	Tab over to the video next.
	Control tab over.
	Okay, so play this.
	So this is you.
	That's a performance I just did.
	In the Islamic faith, is female on female, whatever this is, is it halal?
	No, it's not.
	Then how you do it?
	Why are you doing it?
	Wait, hold on.
	And then you're writing too, isn't it?
	No, I was doing poetry.
	I don't mind the singing.
	But next.
	Okay, play.
	This is you twerking.
	Hello?
	Can you show this on YouTube?
	I'm sure it's fine.
	Okay, next.
	This is you being served champagne in a rather, I guess that's a wrapper or something.
	Yes.
	Okay, next.
	And then, this is your outfit, booty out, cheeks out.
	Wait, sorry.
	That looks fun as fuck.
	I'm not going to say that.
	Thank you.
	How Muslim?
	Yeah.
	Are you?
	They're not.
	Muslim, are you?
	They showed everything.
	I don't believe in religion.
	Okay, but you grew up.
	I grew up as you're from Iran?
	Yes.
	And wait, okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What would they do to her in Iran?
	You totally missed the Ramadan story.
	Get the rocks.
	Abdul?
	Yeah.
	Get the rocks.
	That's why, I mean, there's a lot of question in my mind because I was born and raised as Muslim and then I read Quran and I read Torah, I read Bible, I read all that, and I looked at myself and I was like, yeah, that's a no for me.
	All of it.
	To be fair though, you seem, correct me if I'm wrong, you still hold kind of a conservative, like reserved personage.
	I just don't want to label myself as such, any of them.
	I'm like, you have one life, you come to this world, go discover, figure this world out on your own and have an idea about what life is.
	You don't have to submit to any other book that is available.
	You can read them, read them, have an idea, take what would resonate, just drop what doesn't.
	And don't label yourself as any.
	Because you're a few human being and you can just live.
	I was asking because you seem to come from one extreme and you're not at the other extreme.
	You're kind of in the middle as far as like reservation, humility, being more humble, reserved.
	Do you think that the sort of modern conception of liberation, especially from women, tied directly, it just seems to be the case that the most direct form of quote liberation happens to be sexual?
	Do you think that's a misstep for women?
	To me, it totally is because that's why I asked her what do you how do you define empowerment?
	Unfortunately, what we see, as I call it, being rebellious towards all whatever is being set as rules.
	That's being rebellious, but that has nothing to do with being empowered.
	This is my idea.
	You might not be, you know, agreeing with this, but for me it's like the way I look at every human being.
	I believe that we're magic and I believe we're, we are.
	We start as a thought and idea.
	You were an idea.
	Your parents decided to have a child, so you start as an idea, and then, through a woman's body, which is a portal of manifesting human beings, who we manifest and become physical beings from an idea to what I've become.
	This, to me, is magic.
	It's magical so that magic is bigger than any kind of religion, any kind of book, any kind of law that you could just read and put yourself under and believe that is so have come from.
	Would you agree that a woman creating a life?
	You call it magical um, do you think that's far more empowering than just showing your it's?
	To me it's like it's um when, when I, when I go back to magic, i'm like this precious magic of human body is very worthy of being treated like a magic.
	That is, it is.
	And you're saying, if Gandalf, you've seen Lord Of The Rings, right?
	Yeah well, if Gandalf uses magic the whole entire movie, it wouldn't mean anything, right?
	So imagine swapping Gandalf.
	Yeah, I know, imagine swapping, swapping Gandalf's magic, for he had boobs instead and he just showed him the entire movie.
	I mean, to me it's like all women has but have they have boobs, like it's not the different shapes and there's nothing uh special, special and extraordinary to for showing it.
	To say that's an empowerment for me.
	I do have to let the chat come in.
	We have actually religious.
	Thank you too much.
	Sorry for the delay on this.
	I thought the alien tree lover would be the most insane on the show.
	Then the Muslim not Muslim slash Christian opened her mouth.
	Word salad nom yo.
	Thank you for the uh TTS message.
	I do really appreciate it.
	Um, who is the wait hold on?
	It's funny because I don't believe in religion, but I have my own idea, respecting the woman, being a woman and respecting myself.
	I I believe as a woman, you have to respect yourself first, then demand respect from men.
	You can't just be whatever society wants you and programming you as an?
	Um empowered.
	You can, you know, submit to that and then call yourself empowered just because this is what society accepts or believes, that that's an empowered.
	That's.
	That's not it.
	It was probably a bunch of dudes who sold women on.
	Empowerment Meaning be promiscuity and showing your body.
	They're all just behind a curtain.
	If you're a religion, would you say you're in the process of discovery or are you just completely closed off to it?
	All your life you're in process of discovery.
	It never ends.
	The process of discovery never ends.
	So you never fully commit to one.
	To religion?
	Yeah.
	When I wasn't aware of what it was, of course I was.
	You go through all the, as you said, the process of awareness to me is it was some kind of awareness of what is it?
	So who wrote this?
	Why should I, with this limited life time that I have on earth, should believe somebody else's belief about what this earth and life is?
	Why?
	Because I tend to question everything.
	I question myself and question everything all the time.
	And I believe everybody has to.
	Okay.
	I'm going to move things on.
	So even if the, I don't, I can't even, I'm not even.
	The sheikh.
	The mufti.
	The ayatollah.
	The ayatollah.
	Comes down and is like, you got to take down those titty pics.
	You're going to do it?
	I'm not ready to do it.
	So why would I put myself in a position to force myself to do something I'm not ready to do just to go back and probably do it again because I wasn't ready in the first place?
	Did you force you to not sin in that you've acknowledged that you're actually doing?
	If you force someone to do anything, make any type of change, they're not going to stick to it because they weren't ready in the first place.
	It's like the hijab.
	All Muslim women are not wearing the hijab because they're not ready.
	You can always archive them.
	You can.
	You can always archive them.
	It's not that they're not ready.
	Some can.
	Some they don't have a choice.
	It's just, they're so definitely not ready.
	Yeah.
	But there's so many reasons.
	You don't think that you don't think you should live in any particular society that forces people to do things so long as they're not ready?
	Wait, what did you say?
	Are you okay with a society that allows people to do what they want without using force against them so long as they're not ready to change?
	Absolutely not.
	As I also stated earlier, that some sins are worse than others.
	I don't think people should just be allowed to do whatever it is they want to do to whomever.
	Okay, I think police.
	But my pictures are not hurting anyone.
	Pictures, no puns.
	You running around, I would call that public indecency.
	I would say that regardless if you weren't ready or not to stop showing your butt cheeks to the public, I would say, well, no, I would actually forcefully remove you from the street.
	Unfortunately, fortunately, I think I could wear more than half that stuff in LA to a nightclub.
	Yeah, I'm saying that's not a good, that's not a great thing because just because people do it right now and that's the culture, it doesn't mean like suddenly that it's acceptable or it's not a misstep.
	It could be a misstep from women in general.
	I think it is.
	I think women believing that using what they have as leverage.
	By the way, women's leverage is not brute force.
	It's their bodies.
	It's that they're the gatekeepers of sex and procreation.
	That's their power.
	You've been sold in a liberal society that you're to invert your power and make it for free and call that power.
	I'm telling you, you've been sold a lie.
	Well, you've been sold two lies, Islam too.
	But that's a different debate.
	Could you see how it could be a lie, though?
	The kind of sort of like go-to, just go right to sex.
	Just show your body.
	That's the way to be empowered.
	I mean, I could see where you're coming from from a worldly perspective.
	But that's why I also mentioned intention.
	Like, what is my intention behind posting those pictures?
	Why do I feel like comfortable posting pictures?
	Because not every girl's Instagram looks like that.
	Not every woman is out there showing their cleavage.
	You know, some people feel more comfortable covered up.
	Some people feel more comfortable showing it off.
	It just depends on the person.
	But you guys showed everything but my Ramadan story.
	And I'm very sad about that.
	Oh, yeah.
	We should put it in contrast to the app.
	You should.
	You should.
	It's like bad faith, you know.
	Yeah, it's a different spelling for fasting.
	It's all of me.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Well, yeah.
	Indeed.
	Wait, hold on.
	If you, do you, have you ever spoken to God?
	Absolutely.
	It was just Ramadan.
	No, no, no.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, what do you mean, have I ever spoken to God?
	Like, prayed?
	I pray.
	Yeah.
	Do you speak to hold on?
	Sorry, guys.
	We're doing some camera stuff.
	Do I speak to Allah?
	Do I pray?
	Do I do Salah?
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	So if God spoke to you and was like, you need to take those Instagram posts down, would you take them down?
	Yes.
	Ah, okay.
	All right.
	But like one of the top representatives of the faith, no.
	But if it was direct from God, then yes.
	Well, this doesn't make sense because you believe in what's written in the Quran and the Hadiths, right?
	I do.
	Isn't that dictated and extrapolated through men?
	I think that those rules are meant for everyone under the faith.
	If Allah spoke directly to me, I would think like by the time that happens, it would probably be my same sentiments.
	Okay, but you don't consider that the books and the traditions of Islam throughout time is God speaking through men.
	specialist the specialist command the the specialist command of your behavior even though what if he said i already wrote this for you then that would also be a special like yeah but don't you already hold the belief he already wrote this for you Allah has not come down and said to my face, I wrote this for you, this part.
	You need to take your Instagram pictures out.
	That hasn't been.
	I keep saying that because you know that's impossible.
	No, it's not impossible.
	I don't think people have told stories.
	People have told stories about how they've experienced their faith and Jesus said this to them in their dreams.
	Like there's been so many different stories.
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	But has it ever happened to you that you feel like I mean it's hold on guys to the fake Muslim?
	What are the five pillars of Islam?
	Also, do you pay your zakat?
	To pay zakat, you have to be financially able to do so to give, I think it's 10%, right?
	10% of your finances.
	And then the five pillars of Islam?
	The five pillars of Islam.
	It's definitely Ramadan, Salah, Zakat is one of them.
	I'm missing two.
	Do you remember?
	Sorry.
	No?
	I'm missing two.
	Eric, thank you.
	Hey, Eric, thank you for the message.
	I do appreciate it.
	We have Inquisitor Zeal.
	Chairs one to four have said, I believe, about a hundred times.
	Question for you all.
	Where and when did you get the idea that what you believe is more important than civilizational, religious, or traditional standards?
	I never said anything about religion because I don't have any connection to any of that stuff.
	So that shouldn't have been about me.
	But what was that question again?
	Belief about beliefs.
	Basically, like, why do you believe that what you believe is more important than societal traditions and customs?
	Why do I, I never said I do believe that.
	I said this is the life that I chose.
	This is what I believe what life is about.
	And this is my point of view.
	And I'm speaking from my perspective, from what Allah wrote for me.
	For you, yeah.
	So what I have going on is not more important than anyone else's experience.
	Okay.
	We have a message here from O. Allah donated $200.
	Take the pictures down of your accountability.
	I'm speaking about it, I'm taking my accountability.
	Oh, I got the joke now.
	Because it's got it.
	Yeah.
	Thanks.
	Okay.
	Is that a no?
	All right.
	All right.
	Here, we're going to get on to the next thing then.
	Let's see here.
	We're going to go to Sammy.
	Sammy, you said that you disagree, I believe this is with that Christian guy who talks about bullshit.
	I assume you're talking about Andrew Wilson.
	I don't know his name, but.
	Okay, it's probably Andrew.
	I only saw that.
	We have another representative.
	You're Orthodox Christian, right?
	So he can also, you can also, I guess, direct your inquiry to him.
	Yeah, and I could answer as Andrew if you want.
	The only thing that, because I only saw like clips of him, and the only thing that kind of threw me through a loop was I'm pretty sure he said that he was a reborn virgin, even though he slept with a bunch of women, but he was a virgin now because he got baptized, so it didn't matter.
	But it didn't apply the same way to women, so I was like, that didn't make sense.
	So I don't know.
	I was just a little confused on that worldview.
	I thought that was odd.
	You know, you can be baptized, all of a sudden you're a virgin.
	If so, I mean, doesn't that mean if I was Christian, my OF wouldn't matter?
	Because then I could just pray, and all of a sudden I'm fine as me.
	Well, if you repented, I mean, that's one thing.
	Like, the point of Christianity, this aspect anyway, is that you confront everything you've done and you acknowledge that it's inconsistent with the faith that you're entering.
	And through entering the faith, there's a baptism.
	And through baptism, you're basically renewing yourself in a sense.
	But it doesn't mean all those things don't count.
	Your sins don't actually just go away.
	They're still there from that perspective.
	So that's invalid then that he's well, well, I would just say you misrepresented my argument.
	So, I mean, I think you just kind of heard him say something, but I don't think you're properly phrasing what he means by that.
	He also could have been being hyperbolic, which he is a lot.
	That's possible.
	So your prime, are there other disagreements or is that your only disagreement?
	No, I just, I had seen a clip about it and I just thought it was odd.
	Other than that, I don't.
	I don't even know if he's said any of that, but it doesn't sound like Andrew.
	But so he said that when he was young, he.
	No, he said that he like obviously had slept with women and that recently or whatever, he had been baptized, whatever, repented, whatever you guys call it.
	And then that he was saved and didn't matter no more and he was a reborn virgin.
	No, no, he would never.
	I mean, if he was making fun of that way.
	If he was making fun of someone who took that view, but I could assure you, he doesn't take the view of like, you know, that you suddenly don't have the past of sin.
	I mean, other than that, that was just something I thought was pretty funny.
	You didn't take anything else that he said?
	Like, I don't know.
	On this show, there's a lot of women empowerment talk, liberation, rights, and all this stuff.
	There's a lot more to pick and choose from.
	Yeah, I mean, the religion stuff, since that's kind of the topic they were on, I definitely didn't really tend to tune in too much.
	That's not kind of my thing.
	I don't really worry about that stuff.
	So, okay.
	Let's see.
	Going to Alien, you said the guy that you're seeing threatened to get his dog to attack you because he thought you were leaving the situationship when you told him that you guys need to talk.
	Yeah, so over Christmas or something, I was having like there was a bunch of stuff going on.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	I'm not going to double into that as well.
	But I had hit him up with like a message saying, hey, we like need to talk because I was scared about something.
	And so I kind of ghosted him for like right after that because like everything got too much.
	And I was like, I don't really have time to like talk to you about whatever I need to talk about.
	He lives like right next door to me.
	So I was like, oh, wait, whatever.
	And literally, like the day that I was about to like come and talk to him about whatever, he was like, don't fucking talk to me anymore.
	You're a threat to my family.
	I'm going to get my dog on you.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	Can I just get my stuff back?
	And he like took my stuff and burned it.
	So it was weird.
	It was a weird situation.
	I didn't do anything wrong.
	Is that when you started to move toward trees?
	Or was that before?
	She's been dealing with the trees for a minute.
	Yeah.
	Why trees?
	I just think anything is better than people.
	Fair.
	Yeah.
	But aren't you anthropomorphizing the tree as a person?
	No, not really.
	I mean, how else could you possibly conceive of a being that you're interacting with other than referencing a person?
	You know what you mean?
	Like, if you think you're talking to a being, isn't the only reference you have for being a human, like a, if you can talk to someone and communicate to someone directly, isn't it the case that everything you learned about communication is from other people?
	No, I don't really think so.
	Is there anything else you're capable of talking to that's not a tree, like any object?
	I mean, I talk to plants, I talk to animals, but is can not, from your view, can non-living things be beings?
	Like objects?
	Well, well, not non-living things, right?
	I don't go around talking to my books, like, oh my God, I love you.
	Like, you need to stay here.
	But, like, I talk to like things that are alive.
	You know what I mean?
	Wait, but the pages are made from trees.
	No, they're not alive.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	It's a dead.
	It's a dead.
	It's dead.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you don't talk, you don't believe in talking to dead people.
	I mean, get my Ouija board if you want, but.
	Interesting.
	Let's see.
	We have a chat here from Ben to Chair One.
	I didn't catch her name.
	It's Becky Wright, right, Jim Bob.
	I think her name is definitely Becky.
	This is like a yeah, there's a lot of expected inside jokes from my audience.
	Yo, Ben, thank you so much for the soup chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Welcome to the stream.
	Your name is not in fact my name is Sam.
	Sam.
	Her name is Sam, ladies and gentlemen.
	We have a TTS coming in here for, I believe, she's rejoining us.
	So that TTS is coming in right now.
	Thank you, Jordan.
	Jordan Flores donated $200.
	That little boy is a comedian, but not stand up.
	Also, to the poet, Alipred you to be a 304 and a Muslim impersonator.
	Don't worry about all of this logic stuff.
	La-a-a-a.
	Do you want to respond?
	Yeah.
	Here, scoot your chair into the table.
	Scoot it in.
	I don't know what to say, except for nothing.
	Okay.
	Did I miss the are you a comedian?
	You're a comedian?
	Underground comedian.
	You're an underground comedian.
	Indeed.
	Do you do stand-up?
	No.
	What's an underground comedian?
	I have fans.
	Let's put it that way.
	Let's put it that way.
	What does that mean?
	Wow, that was...
	Sorry, y'all.
	Good job.
	That was great.
	Love it.
	Okay.
	All right, here, I'm going to get into some of the, do I do the, fuck it.
	Let's just do the questionnaire.
	Actually, you know what?
	Here.
	Fuck it.
	M1 Grand.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks, own looks on a scale of one to 10.
	You can't pick seven.
	I'm going to start with you.
	Go ahead.
	A 15.
	Okay, so she says 10.
	I'm going to go.
	I'll come back to you.
	What about you?
	I'm not doing that.
	You have to.
	I'm not.
	You have to.
	I'm not doing it.
	Why not?
	Because I just think that's degrading.
	How would it be degrading?
	Because it's degrading.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	What if people in your comments said you're a 10?
	Would you eliminate that, those comments?
	Because they're degrading.
	I don't think, but I'm not rating myself.
	Wait, you let other people degrade you then?
	I can't stop people from degrading me.
	You can still eat your comments.
	What am I supposed to do?
	No, if someone on your account says you're a 10, right?
	That would be degrading, right?
	It wouldn't be coming from me, but if they want to do that, I can't stop people from saying what they're doing.
	What do you think?
	Whatever.
	I just don't understand the connection there.
	It seems to be the case, if you rate yourself, it's degrading because you're putting a sort of value on an object, right?
	But you present your body as an object to them.
	Yeah, but you present your body as an object.
	I mean, you think of my body as an object.
	No, you know the audience.
	You know who you're playing to.
	Don't play naive.
	When those guys look at your pictures and your ass and all that, right?
	They are looking at you not as a being, not as a Muslim, not as your personality.
	They're looking at your flesh and blood, right?
	And they're saying that object.
	Do I want that or not, right?
	I disagree with you based on my DMs.
	Based on your DMs.
	Yes, because you're talking about the people who follow me, right?
	Wow.
	You should use that with a judge one day.
	You're basically putting your own thoughts on the people who follow me, but you don't know the people who follow me.
	And I don't know all the people who follow me, but when I receive comments, no, it's not just them objectifying my body parts.
	What do they say in your DMs?
	They say, oh, I've just, I want to learn about Islam more based on your pictures.
	I've actually had Islamic conversations in the world.
	That's actually good news.
	That's good news for Christianity then.
	And also, I would like to pose a question as to why the same strict expectations of a Muslim are not put on Christians, because there was some people here, I think, who said they were Christian, and they have their own...
	I think it's stronger because in Christianity, we have free will, and in Islam, you don't.
	So you actually can get out of your...
	You have a loophole in your system, being that Allah already wrote all of your behaviors, including those behaviors.
	So from a Christian view, we have secondary cause, which means we have the will, right?
	And even God's foreknowledge of all things doesn't take away our will to act.
	So when we're confronted with something we do wrong that's inconsistent with our faith, we actually have it harder.
	Now, if you're referring to general Western progressive, like Protestantism, I think that's a good critique.
	I would agree with you.
	But not Orthodox Christianity.
	But the same idea of...
	Who's a Christian?
	The...
	The same idea of you asking for forgiveness and hoping God forgives you is the same thing in Islam.
	I'm asking for forgiveness, hoping a little bit.
	Oh, God, yeah, but well, first of all, God made you do it, ultimately wrote it.
	But two, you can say you're not ready.
	A Christian can't use that cope inside of church.
	You couldn't confess your sins, acknowledge that they're sinful or wicked, even worse, like wicked, the knowledge of sin and still doing it, and say, I just wasn't ready.
	You know, that's a cop-out.
	That's like, you imagine we use that for anything else in life?
	We just simply say, well, I know what I'm doing is wrong.
	I, as the arbiter of truth and power, say, I'm not ready.
	No, well, how would you know you're not ready if you don't actually try to do it?
	You wouldn't even know you're not ready.
	You can't say I'm not trying because you don't know if I'm trying or not.
	Delete one picture right now.
	No.
	See?
	You're not trying.
	The reasons I have the pictures up are not going to be eliminated by me deleting the pictures.
	Yeah, but that's.
	So I'm going to delete a picture just to post another one again because I wasn't ready to do it in the first place.
	Okay, then you're admitting that you have a proclivity toward a certain behavior that you know is wrong.
	That's what I've been saying.
	I said that I am Muslim.
	I am not, I'm not Islam.
	I'm not a lawyer.
	Okay.
	Even if I granted you that the proclivity, the internal workings that has you want to do X and doing X are two different things, that's actually in favor of my position, which is to say you could actually delete all that stuff and deal with internally the battle of your proclivity and what you're drawn to doing.
	You don't actually have to do it.
	You can still look inside and go, oh, I really want to do this thing.
	Other people do this.
	There are worse things that are actually illegal that we can't even talk about on the panel.
	They actually have to deal with the internal workings of their own proclivity.
	Because they're harming other people.
	I'm not harming anyone.
	Well, that's up in the air.
	Harm.
	I think you showing yourself half naked or nearly naked in public is, I think that's a type of harm.
	You could put haikus in your captions.
	I could put what?
	You could put haikus in your captions at the very least.
	Why don't you do the bold thing?
	And this is amazing that I'm advocating for this because poetry is cringe to me.
	Why don't you do the bold thing?
	And try to do poetry the traditional way and try to gain value from that as opposed to calling nudity poetry.
	I didn't call nudity poetry.
	Well, you did.
	I said it was a part of my poetry.
	A part.
	You guys didn't even play my poetry.
	So what's the other part?
	The poems.
	Oh, the titty pics come with poems?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't know.
	They do.
	I didn't see the audience.
	I saw Spotify and Apple Music if you guys want to listen to it.
	Here, let's get back to it.
	The question was, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
	You said 15, so 10.
	What about you?
	I'd say an eight.
	There's a couple things I critique, but I think I'm pretty cool.
	Okay, eight?
	I see myself 10 out of 10.
	Who cares?
	10 out of 10.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Considering my gender ambiguity, I'd say at least a solid six.
	Okay, that was a good one.
	Wait, sorry, repeat that.
	At least what?
	I'm at least a solid six.
	I feel like that's safe.
	Solid six, okay, because of the ambiguity.
	Okay.
	My pictures later should be interesting when we do the gender swap.
	Have you considered...
	Would you date yourself?
	Have you considered poetry?
	Just look the same.
	Maybe slam poetry, I feel like that would be pretty exciting.
	Okay, Felicity, what about you?
	Five.
	Five?
	Five.
	I'm giving myself a five.
	I feel like you're throwing off my five, though.
	What the fuck?
	Oh, no.
	We devalued our fives.
	No, you devalued your five.
	Yeah, I should be lower.
	I diluted you over here.
	A little dilution.
	Sorry, six.
	I'll take a six.
	Take a six.
	Felicity, take a six.
	I can't keep it.
	I'm claiming five if I got.
	Well, no, you can take a lower, though.
	You can keep it.
	I have a lower.
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	I'm keeping my five.
	I'm happy with five.
	Okay, wait.
	So hold on.
	Let's explore this a little bit.
	We have a 10 and a 10.
	And well, she escaped for the time being.
	I think we're all tens.
	We were magic beings.
	Wow.
	Literally everyone.
	Are all men?
	All men are tens?
	Uh-oh.
	No, they're not.
	But are all.
	Here.
	Are all women tens?
	It's not about men and women to me.
	But you hold on.
	I'm a little confused because you said we're all tens.
	As a human being.
	We're all.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm talking about physically.
	Yeah, I'm talking about looks, though.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks all cast.
	It's very personal.
	It totally depends on your taste and what you look in and what you see.
	The taste of beauty in different people is different.
	Well, so then you would acknowledge that not everybody's a 10 then.
	Look-wise?
	Yeah, looks-wise.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I know you're a 10.
	But you're still a 10.
	Like, you're self.
	So are you a lesbian or?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	That doesn't really make sense.
	So you're a 10.
	Okay.
	I see myself as a 10 being that I'm talking about.
	No, but I'm talking about looks.
	Just to be clear, and this could be your answer.
	On a scale of 1 to 10, when it comes to looks, you consider looks to be 10 out of 10.
	It's 7.
	If I want to be super honest, I would be 7 out of 10.
	Ideally, honesty is pretty good.
	Okay.
	So not 10.
	Now 7.
	You get a little pushback.
	Not a 10 anymore.
	It's not a pushback.
	It's about this table sees beauty and taste as whatever the media or the society pursues as beauty.
	I'm going to go with that.
	And I'm going to go, yeah, I'm 7.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Alien.
	What's up?
	What?
	10?
	I guess so, if you want to cap me at that, but I think I'm higher than that.
	You go beyond the scale.
	Yeah.
	Why is 15?
	That seems very limiting.
	it's beyond the scale the last time i okay because the last time that i came i called myself a 12.
	And the way that everyone was trying to beat me down, it makes me feel like you're trying too hard.
	So I must be bigger than that.
	So I'm at 15, but genuinely, I think that's higher than that for sure.
	I genuinely like the way I look.
	So.
	I'm happy for you.
	I miss why you call yourself alien, though.
	Do you think you're an alien?
	I'm a cute name.
	Okay, because there are people who think they're actual aliens.
	I just wanted to.
	It's like, have you ever heard people call theirself bug?
	Yeah.
	Like, I think that's such a cute name.
	I don't know why.
	It's simple, but it's cute.
	Bug self.
	Yeah, that's me, basically.
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	Okay, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to 10.
	You can't pick seven.
	Bringing it back to you.
	You don't want to answer the question or?
	Yeah, I'm not answering it.
	I already said I think it's degrading.
	Why would it be degrading?
	Because I don't want to subject to myself to subjectify myself to a number.
	Okay, sure.
	Would you date a guy who's shorter than you?
	I have.
	I understand you have.
	Is it your preference?
	I mean, I'm a sapiosexual, so if you stimulate me mentally, then it really doesn't matter your height.
	Okay.
	So let's assume you have two men of the equivalent IQ and they stimulate you equally.
	One of them is six foot one.
	The other is five foot one.
	But they're otherwise exactly the same.
	Exactly the same, like facially and everything.
	Facially.
	Penally.
	The word penally.
	I don't know.
	I don't get it out of it.
	Just checking.
	Just meanly.
	I'm using it.
	Do you take the six foot one guy or the five foot one guy?
	That's not a fair question.
	Thank you.
	Like, what is happening right now?
	I feel like I'd be like, fucking.
	How would that not be a fair question?
	No, it's not.
	Explain how it's not.
	People cannot be the same.
	There's two different spirits inside two things.
	Let me ask you a question.
	How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
	What?
	What?
	Yeah.
	How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
	Hungry.
	Okay, cool.
	So it's a hypothetical question.
	I'm asking her to engage in a hypothetical.
	So yes, I agree.
	You're going to come and engage in a hypothetical fashion.
	But yeah, it's a hypothetical.
	So I'm just trying to, I guess, probe the worldview.
	Probe the, yeah, okay.
	are the chances of two men.
	Yeah, I know it's a hypothetical.
	It's not literal.
	Yes, I agree with you that like everybody's a unique snowflake, but like in this hypothetical scenario, granting that these two men are, I don't know, fucking, they're identical twins, but somehow one of them got their height stunted.
	Okay.
	But they're otherwise exactly the same.
	Everything's the same.
	What Brian is saying is that the preference itself is this sort of objectification that we can't avoid, that there's going to be some features about people that we're attracted to, and we're going to be biased toward them.
	And in a sense, even before knowing them, we're going to make a judgment about them as an object in space, really.
	And there's nothing wrong with it.
	It's just, you know, if you continue to treat them like they're just an object, I would say, yes, your contention of objectifying people is wrong.
	But putting a rating on your preference, you know, aesthetically, that's like, imagine you did that with art.
	Like, if you could rate art like one to 10, like, would it be like degrading to the work itself to show?
	I think that's like a 10.
	That's like a.
	I think what's interesting about my answers is at least I'm consistent on the fact that I don't judge a book by its cover.
	I don't like doing that.
	I don't like looking at something and being like, this is what it is because this is what it looks like.
	I don't believe you, though.
	I just don't believe you.
	That's fine if you don't believe it, but this is my reality.
	This is my life.
	Like, I'm speaking about my life.
	You told me to be raw, be free.
	This is what I go through.
	But I guess I just, when people say, oh, I don't judge a book by its cover, I just don't believe people when they say that.
	I don't.
	I've dated a fat guy.
	I've dated a guy who's shorter than me.
	I've got first glance.
	And society would not think those things are.
	Yeah, but I don't think it's really like a rebuttal to the question of, okay, do you have a preference for tall men?
	You say, well, I have dated a short man.
	I don't really think that that's evidence that you have a preference or a lack of a preference towards tall men.
	I don't have a preference at all.
	Like, when people ask me, like, what's your type?
	It's all.
	Do you have no, you have no preferences?
	No.
	When people ask me what's my type, it's more about personality.
	When I get down to personality and intellectual.
	You don't have, like, for example, a racial preference.
	No, I don't.
	Okay, your husband, what was he white, black?
	Egyptian.
	Egyptian?
	Okay.
	Your current boyfriend?
	He is mixed.
	Mix black and white?
	Yeah.
	Okay, Tiffany's dying at jumping on this one, I feel like.
	Okay, so you don't have any preferences.
	No, I've dated a white guy.
	I've been interested in Asian men.
	So you date a dwarf.
	If he stimulated me mentally, I might, yeah.
	If he stimulates you mentally.
	Yeah.
	If he's interesting enough to talk to.
	No, but okay, again, let's say you have two options.
	One guy stimulates you.
	His stimulation mentally is a 10 out of 10, but he's a dwarf.
	And then you have a guy, you know what?
	We'll change it.
	He stimulates you nine out of ten, but he's six foot one.
	Okay.
	Do you pick the dwarf, the four foot ten, four foot nine, or the six foot one guy?
	But they both stimulate me a nine out of ten.
	No, no, no.
	The dwarf actually stimulates you more by one point.
	He's a 10 out of 10.
	Okay.
	But the six foot one guy, he's a nine out of ten in terms of mental stimulation.
	I'm going to be more drawn to the dwarf.
	Dwarf?
	Yes, because we're having better conversations.
	Like we're having better conversations.
	I could bond with the dwarf.
	He's on that five gum shit.
	What?
	How feels with you, five gum?
	Stimulate your senses.
	That was our first joke.
	I'm trying.
	I'm nervous.
	Why are they comedy?
	No, I'm glad you're trying.
	Give the comedian.
	I'm glad you're trying.
	I'm trying.
	I'm trying.
	Would you be willing?
	What do you rate Donald Trump on a scale of one to ten?
	What?
	He's funny.
	I'll give him that.
	Did you vote for Trump?
	Are you MAGA?
	I did not vote for Trump.
	Are you Kamala voter?
	I didn't vote at all.
	Kanye.
	You voted for it.
	Tiffany voted for Kanye.
	You didn't run.
	Oh, you wrote him in.
	I would have voted him in.
	You wrote him in, though, right?
	No.
	On the right-hand portion?
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	She's a die-hard Trump supporter.
	Not really.
	Not really.
	Oh, the tariffs are getting you.
	Are getting you?
	Okay.
	I also don't, I just wanted to point out that you said you don't have preferences.
	It's actually the case that you prefer people who stimulate you, you know, intellectually.
	So you do have a preference.
	You're just saying you don't have a physical preference.
	And so you would go with Tyrion Lannister if he was.
	Who is that?
	He's like the dwarf in Lord of the Rings.
	Like you would go with him if it was a 10 out of 10 intellectual conversation versus like a protector, for instance, who only can stimulate you intellectually 9 out of 10.
	You'd go with Tyrion Lannister.
	I don't even know who that is.
	It's the dwarf from Lord of the Rings.
	But if in a situation where I'm having conversations with someone and so protection and the future, like the future, the pragmatic future of this relationship working, you don't put your current preferences as something you're going to judge the future with.
	Like for instance, don't you want a man who can protect you?
	If he is, yeah.
	But you don't prefer that over Tyrion Lannister, who's telling you, like, having good talks with you.
	Sounds like, it almost sounds like the thing you preference is actually mostly what women refer to as like the friend zone guy, who's like, you can be friends with and they intellectually stimulate you, but they don't have the other aspect that you really need for a sustainable relationship, provider, protector.
	All of those things matter too.
	Well, they can't matter as much if you take the book.
	I can't look at someone and be like, you can provide for me or you can.
	You can look at someone and say, you could probably protect me or not, though.
	You can do that, yeah.
	Yeah, so Tyrion can't.
	You judge a book by its coverage.
	You did.
	Nicely done.
	How?
	Tyrion Anastasa from Game of Thrones?
	What the Tyrion?
	Yeah, but you said Lord of Wings.
	Oh, sorry.
	I did.
	I did.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I'm going to get it for that.
	Because at first, you're going to have to see how delusional women are.
	Stop falling for the bait.
	You are making us look stupid.
	You dig yourself in a hole and make women look stubborn and unreasonable.
	Wait, what?
	Huh?
	The purpose of the question is to show men how delusional.
	What's up?
	Oh, the purpose of the, I guess, the rating the looks.
	Your looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Christine, thank you so much for the message.
	W female viewers.
	Is Christine?
	Is that a, that's a female name?
	That was a critique of the questioner, right?
	No, I think it's a critique of the failure to respond to the question.
	Yeah.
	Why did we actually take the question and why do the answer done?
	She's saying you shouldn't have fallen for the bait.
	She shouldn't fallen for this bait of rating yourself for the sake of argument or just as a question.
	No, I think she her.
	I think she's criticizing the refusal to respond.
	Okay, okay.
	Right.
	Christine?
	I'm not sure.
	I believe she's a fancy person.
	Just immediate clarification.
	You gotta send another one.
	But what were you saying?
	Oh, when we're talking about whether or not you can just tell if somebody can protect you or not.
	Yeah.
	And that's judging a book by its cover like right away.
	I mean, you brought up looking at someone being able to say whether this person could beat someone up for me.
	Yeah.
	Well, no, but I was talking about judging a book by its cover in the sense of me liking someone.
	I'm not going to look at someone and be like, oh, you're 6'1.
	I'm going to like you.
	Well, that's why I brought it in because when we're talking about seeking partners, there's a lot more than looks, right?
	But looks are included.
	It's not like it's not important.
	You know, if you're attracted, that would be looks right off the bat.
	But then you dig deeper.
	I'm just saying that one of the things, you would have to expand your preferences to be realistic because if you valued being protected, you would have to then make a preference on how someone looked.
	When I'm picking a partner, I don't.
	It's not top five.
	Well, Hollow picks your partners.
	Can you protect me?
	Can you protect me?
	Oh, what?
	Okay, what, on the scale of value of a partner, how high is protecting you?
	A five.
	A five?
	That's subjectifying men.
	How?
	Because you're looking at a man and saying.
	Oh, sorry, sorry.
	Can you look at a man and on the scale of whether or not they could protect you or not, give an accurate scale?
	It's not on a top of the top five.
	I know, but no, but could you look at a man and give them a one out of ten rating on how well they could protect you from your view?
	There's a lot of men who are tall and buff who can't beat up anyone.
	And there's a lot of men who are short and not and can beat the fuck out of someone.
	So too sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think it's more about the energy of the person and how, you know.
	I'm scared of dwarfs, so I'm actually.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So my argument is actually toast because I'm more likely to run from a dwarf.
	Are you actually like serious?
	Yeah, I'm a little bit intimidated by it.
	If a dwarf was running at you, yeah, yeah, seriously.
	That might be an interesting situation.
	And they get in the trench coat, you know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	So.
	What's that saying?
	Let me see.
	More effort.
	Where are we?
	Trying to get a rating from her.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Can you just give a rating?
	I'm not doing it.
	I'm not doing it.
	Okay.
	Okay, rate me how well you think I could protect you.
	I'm not going to do it.
	Come on.
	Like, what the fuck?
	It's just so obvious.
	Okay, is rating.
	Don't nigga my shit.
	Is it that rating a being?
	It's that it's a being that makes it wrong.
	Yeah, I'm like, I'm not going to rate a human person.
	What about rating their creations?
	I hate that.
	Because as an artist, as a poet, I wouldn't want to insult someone.
	Are you really a poet?
	I am.
	It's on Apple.
	For all the research you did.
	Oh, she's a single person.
	You just showed a video of me performing and you thought I was singing.
	It wasn't.
	Are you a poet like she's a comedian?
	Underground?
	No, I'm not underground.
	It's on Apple.
	You could literally Google.
	You can Google Apple.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	It says musical artists when you Google me.
	Okay, you crazy, crazy people there.
	Not you guys.
	Okay.
	You don't want to rate yourself?
	Will you rate Jim Bob?
	No.
	Will you rate me?
	No.
	Objectify me.
	What if we give you consent to objectify us?
	No.
	Or degrade us?
	What the fuck?
	I'm not even interested.
	Are you?
	Are you okay with that?
	Sure, if we can get a rating system out of her.
	Okay, well, we're gonna do this.
	Seven, though, right?
	Yeah.
	I thought you were a ten.
	Yeah.
	Wait, can you tell me a guy who you think is a ten in looks?
	What?
	Honestly, I don't know.
	I don't really.
	I don't really look at guys like that.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I'm treated.
	Raid a tree.
	Yeah, rate a tree.
	Redwood?
	Yeah, redwoods.
	Where'd you put redwoods?
	Yeah.
	Cedar trees?
	You fuck with cedar trees.
	I'm not raving.
	Are you a more of a eucalyptus?
	What the fuck?
	Are you more invested than living trees?
	If you see a tree that's kind of dying, will you just kind of be like, hey, it's not worth my time?
	I think anything that's dying is cool.
	Wait, I'm not.
	What the fuck?
	What?
	Oh, but I thought the difference between paper and the tree was because trees are alive and paper is dead.
	I mean, but I just have like interest, right?
	So I just like, I have like what specimens and stuff like that.
	So I just like morbid stuff.
	Have you seen the tree of life episode from Dragon Ball Z?
	Or wait, is that what it's called?
	No.
	I don't watch anime.
	Tree.
	Can we specify something?
	And I'm sorry if we already specified something.
	Tree of Might.
	Excuse me.
	Hold on.
	The Tree of Might.
	Did you see that?
	I don't watch anime.
	Sounds like it's worth it.
	What was the bad guy from Tree of Might?
	Turles?
	Was that his name?
	Turl?
	Who was the bad guy?
	Because you said that's from like Dragon Ball.
	Anyway, sorry, go ahead.
	Sorry, Haz.
	Can we autism?
	Can we specify it?
	It was Turles.
	Turles is the bad guy from Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z. Can we specify it?
	I'm sorry if you already did, but is there a sexual attraction to trees or do you just bond with them?
	No, I have a sexual attraction to men, but it's just, I don't really like that many guys in general.
	What the fuck?
	Does it have to be down?
	It does not be that long.
	It's going to be just being.
	What do you think about like the like if you look into the monitor here, you see all the palm trees and shit?
	Yeah, I think they're gorgeous.
	Would you smash a palm tree?
	No, I wouldn't smash a tree.
	Okay, like that's a good one.
	That's bad for like your pH balance or whatever.
	You know what I mean?
	That's crazy.
	But like, I guess if you're asking me about a man, if I have to just throw someone out there, Adam Driver, I like Roger Waters.
	Like, I don't know.
	I like old ass men.
	I have to ask you, the way you present yourself.
	Yeah.
	Does that attract the kind of men that you?
	Oh, I don't really care.
	No, I'm asking if it does.
	Not if you care.
	Does it?
	I don't care.
	I get whoever I want at this point, so I don't really think about it.
	I have a question too.
	So if there's male and female trees, can they like reproduce?
	Is there a purpose?
	What do you mean?
	To the different genders?
	Because trees have different genders, right?
	Yeah, but I know like for the most part, the ones that you're seeing outside are males.
	Is there a way to tell?
	No, I just know it for a fact.
	So you support the male tree patriarchy?
	What?
	No.
	What do you mean?
	Should we allow male tree patriarchy?
	I mean, no.
	think that we definitely should have like female trees like around but but the thing is is that there's not a lot of female trees around because if it's giving out whatever it's it's basically about the fruiting bodies and the government really doesn't should we Should we intervene, though, and make equality for trees?
	I'm sorry.
	Should we intervene as humans and equalize?
	So half male, half female trees?
	Half male.
	Is that what you want?
	How do we know that?
	No, I never said that.
	I'm pretty sure that that's possible.
	I'm almost 100% sure that that's possible because trees can like lend like their own power to other trees, especially if they're dying and stuff and they can kind of morph.
	So it's kind of cool.
	Excuse me?
	What the fuck?
	All right.
	I just really like plants.
	Yo, super saying.
	Thank you for the gifted subs.
	Maybe it was because of the tree of might reference.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the gifted sub.
	You know, oh, going around the table, do you guys think, do you think you will be better looking in 10 years time?
	Better looking?
	No, I don't think that's how aging works.
	Okay.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Yeah, because I take really good care of my skin, my body, and everything.
	And I've just been advancing, so it's whatever.
	Wait, sorry, but not to be blunt, but how is all of the holes in your face taking care of your skin?
	I mean, do they look rejected?
	Well, no, it looks like an act against the skin on your face, though.
	I'm still taking care of my skin.
	My skin is clear.
	I don't know.
	Not in those spots, I would say.
	No, it's still clear.
	No, I would say everywhere where you have skin, you have clear skin.
	But where the things are, what do you call those things, by the way?
	They're piercing.
	You're saying that part of your skin, that's not good for your skin.
	That part, right?
	I mean, tell me how it's not good for my skin.
	Well, I mean, anything that tears away at the fabric of your skin, we would say isn't good for your skin, right?
	It doesn't matter.
	If you go to a hospital right now, they're going to put a needle on you, right?
	so it doesn't really fucking matter.
	I don't want them to do that, but...
	I mean, but they're going to regardless.
	If you get in a car crash or whatever, they're still going to put IV in you, right?
	Well, yeah, if you need to live.
	But that's, yeah, those are the same.
	Those are still needles.
	You're still just disrupting.
	I wouldn't want them if you could have.
	Yeah, but if you could avoid the tearing of your skin, every medical advancement pushes away from.
	It's going to happen.
	Like, it could happen to you regardless, like, whether your skin is like, whether you're going out here, living your life, tomorrow you can be in a car crash.
	And that's, you know, like, your whole fucking shit is like gone.
	That's true.
	So it doesn't really matter to put all of this.
	Like, wait, it doesn't matter how you present your face.
	It doesn't matter how you treat your skin, like 100% like that.
	Like, I take care of my skin, obviously, right?
	I don't have like bad acne.
	It is awesome.
	I don't have like pockets.
	Like, I don't know how to like express it, but I take care of myself still.
	So and it's evident.
	So.
	Hey, can you stop?
	There's a pen to me.
	My apologies.
	Do you still have to do that?
	I wasn't paying attention.
	Oh, I thought it was a pen.
	I thought you were.
	I wasn't paying attention.
	All right.
	20 years' time, better looking at 46.
	You're 26.
	I probably am.
	30 years' time, 56.
	Yeah, I take care of myself.
	40 years' time, 66.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You're 29, better looking in 10 years' time at 39.
	Into the mic?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I'm asking you what you think, though.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I understand you might not know, but what do you think?
	I don't know.
	That's my thoughts.
	Okay, I understand, but what if you had a guess?
	I don't know.
	That's cool.
	Let's say there was a bullet to your gun to your head.
	There's a gun to your head, and they're like, you get to survive.
	You have to answer the question, but if you don't, we're pulling the trigger.
	But that's the answer to the question.
	I don't know.
	You'd rather end your life than just answer the question, even if it's a guess.
	Why?
	Why do I get all the hypotheticals?
	That was a health threat, by the way.
	No, like, what is happening right now?
	Because you just don't answer the question.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's an answer, too.
	Yeah.
	It literally isn't, though.
	But I really don't know.
	Why is it not?
	Well, okay, here.
	Let me find.
	I'll ask some clarifying.
	10 years ago, I looked worse than I do now.
	So I don't know.
	Okay, cool.
	Well, given the trend of you looking better now versus 10 years ago, is that trend going to continue?
	Who wants to say it?
	Cool.
	Let me ask you a question.
	In terms of physical appearance, do you find people who are like 100 years old, are they typically better looking than, I don't know if you've seen like old, like photos of somebody when they're 100 versus when they were like 20 or 30 or something.
	Are they typically better when they're 20 or 30 or when they're 100?
	Of course they have change in appearance.
	Yeah, what are those changes?
	I mean, to society, they'd say negatively, negatively changed, they've aged, but you said 10 years.
	There are people who look amazing at 35, 40.
	But I'm not asking you if you'll still be good looking in 10 years.
	That's not the question.
	I'm not asking you if you'll still be attractive.
	I'm simply asking, you're currently 29.
	At 39 in 10 years' time, will you be more attractive, just as attractive, or less attractive?
	There are people currently now who look better at 39 than they did at 29.
	And there are people who look worse, though.
	You saying better.
	No, but worse or better.
	I'm asking you about you.
	Gravity.
	I don't know.
	Like, if, let's say you had $100,000.
	And here are the two betting options.
	One, is X person going to look better at the age of 30 or 100?
	And you're a betting person.
	Like, you might say, well, it's possible for somebody to be better looking at 100 than they are at 30.
	I mean, maybe that might not even be your position.
	If you had to put your money on better looking at 30 versus better looking at 100, which one do you pick?
	If we're going to have a debate, let's make sure the ages stay the same.
	So when you first asked me, you said 10 years' time.
	If you said 100, I would have said, oh, I'm most likely going to look worse than I do now at 100 years old.
	I'm just trying to see if you can come to a delineation when it comes to, like, yes, people tend to look worse as they age, generally speaking.
	Generally speaking, yes, but you didn't ask me generally.
	Let me ask you in a different way that maybe she'll answer it.
	If it's possible for you to look worse than you do now or better and you have command over it, what will you choose to do if you could act on it?
	I would want, I would like to look better than I do.
	Okay, so if you would like to look better than you do and you thought, well, I'm going to commit to doing it.
	Do you think you will look better if you thought you're going to commit to it?
	Do you think right now you will look better, given that you just said you want to?
	If you've acted on that want, are you saying that you will look better in 10 years?
	I don't know.
	All right, here.
	How about this?
	Let's do 20 years' time.
	So you're 29, better looking at 49 than now at 29.
	49, almost 50.
	Yeah.
	I think there does become a stopping age where it's just like regardless of what you do.
	So I don't know.
	Okay, here's another way of asking it.
	How long do you think you'll keep posting the types of pictures that you do on the internet?
	Do you think you'll be posting those pictures in 10 years?
	There's something for everyone.
	So I don't know.
	So I don't know, yo.
	Okay.
	So how about 30 years' time?
	Better looking at 59.
	Like than now at 29.
	Like I said, there is a stopping point where, regardless of what you do, naturally gravity will take its course.
	So.
	Yeah, do you want to just answer the question though?
	I don't know.
	Like, that's my answer.
	I'm not sure.
	Just to be clear, you genuinely don't know.
	Most likely.
	Hold on.
	Generally speaking.
	Hold on.
	You don't know if in 30 years time at 59, one year away from 60, you don't know if you're going to be worse looking, better looking, or the same as you do now.
	Listen.
	I won't look the same.
	That's for sure.
	Yeah.
	What are the differences that are going to occur?
	I don't know.
	No, but like, okay, what have you noticed when you look at somebody who's older?
	Like I said, I look better than I did 10 years ago.
	Do you have a famous?
	Do you have a famous actor that you like?
	No.
	Hallie Berry.
	Johnny Depp.
	Beautiful.
	Brad Perry.
	Polly Berry's beautiful.
	I haven't aware.
	Polly Berry.
	She's from Ohio, too.
	That's great.
	So have you ever, and you're 29, right?
	So maybe you've been watching like movies and TV shows for like over two decades, probably.
	You've probably seen some of your favorite actors age.
	Typically, are these actors like 20, 30 years down the line?
	Are they better looking?
	Ashanti looks fucking amazing.
	I just want to say that.
	And I'm pretty sure she's pushing 45.
	I thought you'd said Aaliyah.
	Like that she's dead.
	Do you think Madonna looks good?
	She's had surgery, so we don't know how she would have naturally looked.
	Ladies, she does.
	I feel like she doesn't look better than before.
	She does.
	Yeah, she looks so good.
	I don't know what she did, but man, she looks like 30 years.
	Madonna.
	She just said Madonna looks good right now.
	I mean, see how you could just not know what's going to take place?
	You just don't know.
	All right.
	I feel like he definitely doesn't look like that.
	I feel like you do kind of know because it's like with old people, you talk about them like they're a jalopy.
	Like there's nothing you can do.
	Yes.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I think at an age, a certain age, there is like a stopping point.
	But he's saying 10 years from now.
	That's the question.
	10 years from now.
	Who's moving around?
	Yeah.
	So.
	100 years, absolutely.
	I don't think final final thing for you.
	You're 29.
	If we go back 10 years, better looking at 19 versus now at 29?
	I looked worse.
	So you're better looking now?
	Yeah.
	What were some of the changes that occurred?
	Because you know how you look now.
	You know how you looked at 19.
	So perhaps we can get some definitives on that.
	I didn't take good care of my body.
	I was extremely skinny.
	My hair was a lot shorter.
	My skin, I had a whole bunch of acne.
	So you gained weight.
	Yeah.
	And in my cultural beliefs, that's a good thing.
	So slip that out there.
	How skinny were you?
	I was 116.
	And how tall are you?
	I'm 5'5.
	You're weight, what?
	You said 160 or 16?
	116.
	116 and she's 5'5.
	You're 116 now?
	No, no, no.
	I was 116 before, yeah.
	Tiffany, don't you have something on like I saw that you post something recently about what is it?
	I would consider that a glow down, just personally.
	A what?
	A glow down.
	Because you gained weight.
	Glow down?
	Yeah.
	Depends on for the proportion.
	Wait, but no, Tiffany, didn't you say, what did you say about like you wanting to be thin?
	Can you explain that?
	Yeah, my goal is to lose weight.
	You don't want to have an ass or busy super.
	So you want to glow down.
	You don't want to glow up.
	That's a glow up for me.
	Would be fertilizing.
	How's it just?
	I'm just saying from my perspective, I consider that a glow down.
	And from mine, if you, you know, got you, your goal would be glow down.
	Okay.
	Wait, from you're saying from your perspective, if she got skinnier, it would be a glow down.
	Glow down.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you want to see her thick, thick, Tiffany, is what you're saying.
	I think she just wants to see her.
	You want.
	And I also think she's a good idea.
	I'd also add she is.
	Yeah, right.
	Like, I don't think she really need.
	I mean, like she said, if she would like to, then so what?
	But I think she's fine as she is.
	You know, so she lost more weight.
	You're saying she would be less attractive.
	I think it would negate from how she is now, yes.
	And I'd also add.
	Am I not entitled to my own beauty standards?
	Like, why are you trying to share?
	You were just doing that to her.
	You did kind of just shame me.
	Well, I was just sharing my opinion.
	And I was sharing mine.
	You were just doing that.
	Yeah, because you were offended by what I said.
	I wasn't offended.
	It wasn't.
	You didn't say it to me.
	No, you said that you consider that as a glow down.
	Yeah, and then you got offended by what I said about her.
	I was saying the same thing you said to her.
	This is why women shouldn't vote.
	Wait, Tiffany, are you going to what I said?
	That's.
	No, that's.
	Look, let me just say this.
	Some women do look better, skinnier, and some women do look better, thicker.
	I happen to look better, thicker.
	If you like to know, the standard for men is essentially, this is why age does matter, is that when we ask, you know, when we're asking about looks from a male perspective, deep down inside, we're actually looking at like fertility.
	Like, can you provide us children?
	So I do agree that health is considered for sure in that.
	But looks are too, and so is age.
	So it's all sort of like bundled together.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know if you can give like an exact thing of like, that's the pinnacle of a beauty and health.
	There's probably some standard.
	But when you ask men, what we're really looking for is your ability to give us children.
	And the reason this question is asked so much is because a lot of the cultural aspects we talk about with women's behavior, pornography, liberation, all these things, when women sort of like dedicate their lives to like 10, 15 years of liberation, they actually waste the time where you're actually the 10 for the men.
	Does that make sense?
	That's when we're actually looking to find you and settle down with you and have kids, but you kind of missed that window and a lot of women are missing that window for really bad reasons.
	To your boomer standards.
	Boomer, yeah.
	To my boomerang.
	I want to respond.
	Tiffany, I think you need to respond to Sammy here.
	to her there's a little do you think what do you want to say anything to Sammy She was saying that you're too thin.
	I mean, all I was saying is that she seems to get really affected.
	She said you were too thin.
	No, she didn't.
	I didn't say that too.
	You said, fine, if she put on a bit of weight, it would be a glow down.
	I was matching the energy that she just did.
	No, it would be a glow up.
	Wait, hold on.
	No, she said if she loses weight, that is a glow down.
	That's a glow up for her.
	That's what she said.
	They're saying there's no such thing as a glow up and a glow.
	Are you calling Tiffany fat?
	What?
	Did you call her fat?
	No, she called herself fat.
	She called herself fat because she wants to lose weight.
	Yeah.
	I didn't say nothing about that.
	No, no, no.
	I think I'm pretty skinny, but I just want to be skinnier.
	She wants to be skinnier.
	You can warm if you want to.
	What's wrong if Tiffany wants to be a little skinnier?
	Huh?
	She can.
	Like I said, you just said that I called myself fat, but I never did.
	I literally don't care, bro.
	I was just doing the same thing that you did.
	You're going to let her call her bro?
	Why can't you call her?
	You're going to let her call you.
	Is she your bro?
	Bro?
	Wait, I have a question.
	How would you know the threshold of when it's a glowdown for her?
	How would she with her?
	That was the same energy.
	Yeah, but I just want to know how would you like to.
	I wasn't saying it in a standpoint because that was how I felt.
	I was like, that's fine.
	You were mirroring her.
	Okay.
	How would you know it's a glow up or glow down for her?
	Based on her BMI, I guess.
	With that, I would be under her age.
	That's a decent girl.
	Okay, if you go below 16.5, I would consider that a glowdown.
	Okay.
	I think 116 for 5.5 is like about average or maybe slightly below average, like weight-wise, like underweight.
	Yeah, it's underweight.
	That's like slightly underweight for 5'5.
	I think like ideally it would be a glowow.
	Tiffany, what would be a glow-up for Sammy?
	Huh?
	What would be a glow-up for Sammy?
	Are you even okay with that question?
	I can't.
	I think she is.
	I'm careless.
	I think I'm just fine how I am.
	In terms of weight.
	Like, what do you think is a glow-up for Sammy?
	Like, in terms of how much weight she should lose?
	Well, I don't know her weight, so I don't know.
	I mean, just like eyeballing it, I guess.
	What's her BMI?
	Are you like setting nutrition?
	Yeah, right.
	I'm into that kind of stuff.
	Yeah, she's.
	Okay, you can tell me then, because I'm 410 and weigh 93.
	I mean, honestly, that's a bit heavy, to be honest.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you dead ass?
	No, he's not.
	He's passing.
	I'm not.
	You should probably join Weight Watchers.
	Actually, my underweight limit is if I hit under 75, that's bad.
	Okay, I can get on board.
	I can get on board with that.
	Yeah, so.
	I'm fine, honestly.
	I'm in the middle.
	I just feel like you should.
	You're 410.
	Yeah.
	I'm brutal.
	Not offensive, but it's not legally.
	It's legally a dwarf, but I don't have to do that.
	Thank you for saying that.
	I'm in disorder, though.
	I'm just that short.
	That's so cute.
	When I saw her, I was like, that's Brian's type.
	What?
	He always talks about loving dwarves.
	As far as glow-ups, you guys were just talking about health and weight, but how do you ladies distinguish between glow up and glow down when it comes to like altering your face and your body generally?
	I feel like it just depends on how that person feels about theirselves, to be honest.
	So you know that like cat lady who mangled her face and she just looks like some sort of crazy cat?
	Is that a glow up?
	I don't know who you're talking about.
	Is that a glow up?
	Yeah, she's happy with the way that she looks.
	How do you know?
	Because she said it herself.
	How do you even define?
	How do you even define a glow-up?
	Is it how you feel inside or is it how?
	I'm going to let this come through because it's.
	I apologize, Allah, for the delay on this.
	As we do not approach immoralities, what is apparent of them and what is concealed.
	Indeed, Allah does not like immoral behavior.
	Saru Al-Anon, 6 to 151.
	Are we still, like, are we going back to the religious topic?
	Every time.
	I think that that's what just happened.
	Allah, thank you for the you impersonating Allah is also immoral.
	Inshallah means like God willing.
	Oh.
	I mean but I said astaqfilila I didn't say inshallah.
	How do you say thank you in Farsi?
	Yeah, I guess.
	Because Islam has nothing to do with Persians and Persia and any of that.
	They're two different things.
	Okay, all right.
	Are we talking about Islam or Varsi?
	Okay, you're 47, better looking in 10 years' time at 57.
	Well, I mean, I don't think so.
	Gravity does its thing, and we're a physical being, so.
	Okay, so won't be better looking.
	Probably not.
	You're 47.
	Let's go back in time.
	Let's go back 10 years.
	37 versus 47.
	Were you better looking at 37?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Let's do another 10 years.
	20 years.
	27 versus 47.
	Better looking at 27.
	I think I look better now.
	Better now.
	Yeah.
	Because that time I was in it in my first marriage and I was unhappy and the energy was dull and unhappy inside and it just shows through.
	I guess, but okay.
	That's why I consider myself.
	How about this?
	18 versus 47.
	Better looking.
	18.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Tiffany, you're 19, better looking in 10 years' time at 29?
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 39?
	Yes.
	30 years' time, 49?
	No.
	Okay, so when's your peak?
	Depends on when I get my nose job and lose the weight.
	You can get one of those white people's noses?
	No.
	Something that would suit my face.
	Is there like a menu?
	Are there menus for noses?
	Is that how it works?
	Like when you go in?
	You score noses.
	Kind of.
	There's like different types of noses.
	There are different types of nose jobs.
	Like there's ethnic nose jobs and there's like Barbie doll nose jobs.
	Do you have the are you going to get the eyelid surgery?
	What would you change about your nose?
	I just.
	Honestly, I think you don't need a nose job.
	I think it looks good.
	Yeah, your nose is fine.
	Stop tripping, bro.
	It fits your face.
	Right.
	I dare you to get a giant big hunk.
	It's not like asymmetrical as I would like it to be.
	It's not as symmetrical as I would like it to be.
	And there's no unit.
	It's going to be symmetric.
	I don't like how it's so kind of low here, and I kind of have a tiny bump.
	You can't really tell, but I can feel it.
	I'm looking at your nose in the middle.
	It looks fine.
	You know what it looks like?
	It looks like you're already at a nose job.
	It kind of does.
	I don't think you should get one.
	You should just tell people you got one.
	See what happens.
	Just test it.
	Solve it.
	Test it.
	Problem solve.
	See if people go.
	They would think I went to a cheap doctor.
	A what?
	A cheaper doctor.
	Oh, man.
	I don't think so.
	I feel like the difference between a glow up and a glowdown is the results.
	And that's about it.
	What would a glow-up for you?
	I guess not look like a little boy.
	Oh, yeah, that was pretty harsh.
	That was hard.
	I mean, you don't look like the typical, you know, you have to own up to that, right?
	Yeah.
	No.
	So, I mean, if you're going to go out in public, dress like Mill House, you're going to get some pushback, right?
	Whatever.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm not going to go on a point in a while.
	So you're 30, better looking in 10 years.
	You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40.
	Oh, me.
	I feel like people tend to fill out with age, but I feel like right now it's probably my peak.
	I think this is it.
	Okay, and then going back 10 years at 20 versus 30, better looking now or at 20?
	I think now.
	I feel like I look better now.
	Okay.
	And then, well, Felicity, if we've done this whole bunch.
	All right.
	So, oh, I have to wait until she's back to do this segment.
	So I'll just wait a little moment, do a couple of shout-outs.
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	Okay, so I'm going to have you pull up the, or I think it's already up, right?
	Okay, window tab.
	And, oh, before you do, we age-advanced all of y'all with AI.
	So a lot of y'all said you're going to be better looking.
	So here it is.
	Go ahead.
	That's great.
	That went too fast.
	I have to see.
	I'll pull it back up.
	Yeah.
	She still likes cars.
	It's actually kind of.
	Yeah, no, of course.
	Is that what your mom looks like?
	Actually, my mom looks way better.
	Is that a mom joke?
	My mom's skin's a lot better than that.
	I wonder what age are they looking?
	Let's say what age is the middle one.
	What age.
	Middle is like 63.
	No.
	Middle is like 56?
	No.
	Middle is like 40s.
	No.
	No, no.
	No way.
	That's 40s.
	Really?
	I think her hair is 40s, but her eyes, that middle one, is more like 55 at least.
	55 at least.
	Yeah.
	I could see 40 a little bit.
	All right.
	Okay, next.
	Hot.
	Control tab.
	You got to click on it.
	There you go.
	What is that?
	No, I didn't mean it in a mean way.
	Okay.
	I feel like.
	It's not like it's really you.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	It just looks, that's what I'm saying.
	It's like obfuscating.
	Morgan Freeman.
	You know what it is?
	It's including your piercings are aging.
	That's what it's trying to do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Trying to age them.
	It's just like everything's like a little bit of a music.
	Just make them rusty.
	What the fuck?
	I'm saying.
	Thank you.
	Didn't you say I got confused?
	I can't really follow and find age, ediment, and ice.
	Do you see that?
	That's hilarious.
	You're going to age well.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Definitely still doing poetry at that point, too.
	I definitely am.
	Yeah.
	That's what's up.
	Maya.
	Wait, it's okay.
	So let's say that other one, that's like 20, 30 years in the future, the middle one.
	You said you didn't know?
	I don't know.
	I still don't know because my mama looks like a little bit of a little bit of a tall.
	Wait, wait, here's where we test this out.
	Which of these three is the best looking?
	Is the best looking?
	Yeah.
	Depends on who you're asking.
	Huh?
	Huh?
	I'm asking you.
	She's great at nothing.
	I mean, just pick one she's not going to be able to do that.
	I'm going to say, all I'm going to say is don't be mad when we're here super late because you guys can't answer a question easily.
	Okay, so which one's better looking?
	The left, the middle?
	Wait, did you say the middle?
	Subjective.
	Yeah, your subjective opinion.
	You think the middle one is the best looking?
	I don't know.
	Pick away and James.
	You got to pick one, bruv.
	Bruv, bruv.
	Am I in a better mental space in the middle or the last one?
	What is, I don't understand.
	What is wrong with becoming old from a woman or man's perspective and remembering the time when you were youthful and beautiful?
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	Then why is there something wrong with saying, back when I was youthful and more beautiful and vibrant, I remember that time.
	I love that time.
	That's no longer the time, right?
	Is that what you say as a boomer?
	What?
	No, I'm saying that from you.
	Aren't you a millennial?
	No, but I'm, no, she's reading my spirit.
	it's a boomer spirit so but that's what i'm that's the point is that there's nothing controversial about about a woman saying when they're older saying oh remember to be young again It's just not a controversial statement, but you're like fighting it for some reason.
	I'm not fighting it.
	You're like, no, I could be totally hot in 79.
	I said, I don't know.
	I'm going to be wearing 79-year-old lady thongs.
	I said, I don't know, and I will be wearing thongs.
	I'm sure of it.
	Oh, boy.
	So just pick a number, just end all the stuffer and go.
	To whom, though?
	Don't forget, there's also a male.
	Oh, my God.
	Someone's getting into politics.
	For sure.
	I would be a cute Goni.
	Like that.
	True.
	Okay.
	Alright, let's do next.
	Why are we looking at her like that?
	I want mine to be like that.
	how do you feel about that so tiffany it makes me look like coralline Who is that?
	You said better looking in like 30 years, right?
	That's you in 30 years.
	That's accurate.
	Tiffany.
	That's you.
	The middle one, that's you in 30 years.
	You should look at my mom.
	Is she single?
	No.
	Oh, never mind.
	Do your parents know about your boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	They love him.
	Did you know?
	They love him more than I do.
	All right.
	All right.
	Next.
	Ew.
	Did you just say ew?
	Yeah.
	Why not?
	Oh my God.
	Look at the last one.
	That's not.
	That's not good.
	You look like a librarian.
	I look awful.
	But like a librarian at an elementary school, not like a chain smith.
	Like a reputable librarian.
	I appreciate that.
	Oh, not a reputable library.
	I think I appreciate that.
	The middle one is shooting.
	I'm not going to lie to you.
	I appreciate that.
	I've seen a couple, like, 20-year-olds that look like that.
	Like in high-crime urban library.
	Okay, all right.
	Next.
	That's awesome.
	That's awesome.
	No, this is the worst one ever, Felicity.
	Why is this job?
	What is this?
	Why is the middle one?
	This is the worst one by far on all the other episodes.
	Like, this one is the least forgiving.
	It's learning.
	The AI's learning.
	What does that mean?
	They really did not do you anything.
	They totally destroyed your neck, too, by the way.
	What the?
	Felicity, you have a fantastic neck.
	But the AI just came in and gave you an Adam's apple.
	That's crazy.
	The middle one, like, how many of you have changed the hat?
	Have you ever done a swoop, Felicity?
	Like my bangs?
	Like, instead of like just things straight down, you like swoop them to the side.
	Is that?
	No, like all, you know, emo swoop.
	Here, you're help her out.
	Kind of like hers.
	I think she's got it.
	Look, she's got it.
	Wait, let me see.
	Kind of.
	Yeah, it's not bad.
	All right, you just need a little pink dye and you're good to go.
	Or green or blue or some shit.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh, boy.
	See, if you look at the last picture, that's what's talking inside of me.
	Wow.
	No, actually, the middle.
	The middle one.
	That's what's talking.
	I like the middle.
	the last one i'm gonna have a long white ponytail so it's not totally accurate uh all right next what are they gonna do okay they used like fucking 10 year old photo that's great looks like a denture commercial Damn bro, the.
	I look like a, a racist mare of some like.
	Yeah, like a mare yeah, definitely like on that last one, I look like i'm a mare of some small.
	No, you look like one of the guys from the Xtractive.
	Look at the twinkle in your eye in the first one.
	Where was that?
	I was looking?
	I was, the sun was beaming into my eyes.
	You look more like this the middle one now, than you do the first one.
	Thank you Wowen, I appreciate that.
	Tiffany, thank you.
	Alien was saying you look like that.
	Pull up Tiffany again, really quick.
	Let's just actually, you know that's not fair because they use you'd be at a golf course.
	I look like i'd be on a golf course.
	Yeah, I said that.
	You look like the uh, X Factor Judge X.
	It's like Louis Wash or something.
	Simon Cowell no, Louis Wash, like I just said.
	Oh, I know you're talking.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	He's the Irish guy that was a q-tip on there.
	The white hair okay, the one that looks like that.
	All right uh, I don't know where else.
	Oh, we need to do the gender swap too.
	But first we have a couple chats coming through.
	We have Slim Stream.
	He just sent in a hundred.
	He didn't even send the message.
	Slim Stream, thank you so much for your hundred dollar contribution.
	Your fucking legend.
	Can we get some w's in the chat for Slim Stream?
	Thank you so much man, you're a legend.
	Slim Stream Slim, the real Slim Shady stream.
	He deserves a freestyle.
	Do you know?
	Slim Shady is now a grandpa.
	His daughter has a kid now that.
	Okay, Inquisitor ZEAL, I sent a hundred last time because I knew I wouldn't get an answer and i'd love to repeat the question, when in your life did what you believe become more important than the rules created by others?
	What caused this?
	I believe that's directed to you guys.
	Go ahead, take it over, take it away.
	I still don't know what you mean by that question, like rejecting traditions, established norms that um, you know, over time, through generations, have been established and um, where does this impulse of just co, just rebelling, like she said?
	Um, this sort of this like innate rebellion to the established norms seems to be the the trajectory, at least where we are.
	I think we're on a podcast and all these questions are being directed to us.
	Yes, for us to state our perspective about whatever the question is and it's our perspective about whatever the question is doesn't mean that it's more important or a better perspective than societal.
	Well, for instance, when you were talking about your, your instagram, you were saying, this is empowerment, and I guess yeah, if we swap it out, the question is Asking, where do you get the notion that your individual sense of empowerment is basically more imperative?
	more important than a collective's standards for what behaviors are and should be in society?
	I never said it was.
	It just is.
	I never said my perspective in what I'm showing on my Instagram is more important than well, you did in a way, because if we transported you into a Muslim nation and you said you were Muslim, certainly if you maintain the position you have tonight, you would be going against what the question asked, the established norms and traditions of the society.
	And I would bet every person in that Muslim nation has a specific sin, and they would also be going against Islamic law in some way, shape, or form.
	Well, would they correct it?
	They wouldn't keep doing it, though.
	Like, that's the difference we came up with, was that the difference is between people, if they call themselves religious, whatever it be, if there's some sort of corrective aspect of the religion, to say you're practicing it correctly is to say that you're self-correcting or you're going to correct something.
	I never said I was practicing it correctly.
	There are Muslims who still call themselves Muslims who did not fast at all during Ramadan.
	There are Muslims right after Ramadan who went right back to drinking.
	But would they say it's empowering?
	Depends.
	I don't know.
	But that's the difference we're talking about.
	It's like those people, if you ask them, were you being a good Muslim during Ramadan?
	They might say no.
	But they wouldn't say, well, no, but it was empowering.
	I'm empowered.
	I feel empowered because that's how I feel.
	But as I stated, it's not right.
	Right.
	Well, that's the answer to the question.
	If the question was, why is it you, where did you get this notion that your preferences and urges and wants and needs are better than whatever the collective is that you're in contrast to, in this case, Islam?
	The answer to the question to the person who sent in the chat is, I just basically want what I want.
	I want to follow what empowers me, and that's it.
	You're following yourself, right?
	I think, well, yes, to your last point.
	But also, I think what I'm disagreeing with in terms of the question is the better part.
	Like, I never said it was better.
	Right.
	Well, yeah, I guess what he's saying better, he might mean takes precedent over.
	Would you say that your idea of empowerment at this moment, your concept of empowerment, is more important?
	You're putting it as a priority over, let's say, an Islam perspective of what empowerment is.
	You're valuing your concept of it above Islam's, right?
	Valuing.
	Yeah.
	See, it's the word selection that's throwing me off.
	What are you following?
	Which one are you putting up more on a pedestal?
	Revers or Islams?
	I'm going to end this discussion with this.
	I'm a revert.
	And so in being a revert, there were things I was already struggling with prior to becoming Muslim.
	And I'm working through those struggles and those sins.
	However it is, I'm choosing to work through them.
	And if posting pictures is a part of that, then it is, it's a part of that.
	And I'm not going to sit up here and not take accountability and ownership over what it is that's on my page.
	Right.
	So it's going to be by your standards that you're even going to be what Allah wrote.
	What he wrote, yeah, yeah.
	So, well, he already wrote that you're taking those pictures.
	Just like he wrote for you to ask me these questions.
	Right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	If I was Islamic, I should just be quiet because the questions were already answered, right?
	No, I mean, for someone else to answer their question, it's a good question because this applies to men as well, is that if you are in a system that's ordered, let's say they have some standard for ethics, decency, public decency, how you ought talk to people, not talk to people.
	If someone said, well, I just disagree with it all and I'm just going to reject it.
	How would you guys determine whether that's like empowering or good?
	Like, are they being bold?
	Like, or is it more valuable to actually follow rules in society?
	Intention.
	What's the intention behind it?
	I mean, how would that matter if the actions, like, if an action crosses a line in a society?
	Like, if someone's a nudist and they go to some place that's public and there's children, they just like, you know, get a raging erection.
	Like, if you said their intention mattered and not the action, if I said, should we use force to eliminate, you know, take that guy off of the streets?
	And you said, well, it depends on our intention.
	You know, you wouldn't say that, right?
	I also stated that some sins are worse than others.
	I'm not talking about the scale of sin.
	I'm saying if your measurement is intention, I just gave you an example where intention wouldn't matter, right?
	In that instance, right?
	If you're harming others, no, intention doesn't matter.
	Well, no, it's not.
	Just like your ass is out, it just happens to be his penis.
	It's a part of the body.
	No, it's a part of the body.
	How would you say that?
	I'm not, I don't even know.
	I can't say this on stream, but if I am self-gratifying myself online, you can't do that.
	No, no.
	Who said you're doing anything about it?
	Getting an erection is a natural thing that happens.
	You're not doing anything.
	No, no, no.
	It's a yawning.
	No, it's not like yawning.
	It's like waking up and yawning.
	Okay, but a normal person would hide their erection immediately.
	A normal person, from my view, would hide their ass.
	Would it?
	Would they?
	Yeah.
	There's a lot of last cheeks about to be out.
	It's about to be summer.
	I know.
	It's going to be a lot.
	Oh, aren't we close to a campus?
	I'm saying, what I'm saying is the intention can't be the determining factor because if someone just happens to get an erection in public and they just happen to be a nudist, right?
	They're just like you.
	They just have less clothes.
	Just like me?
	Yeah.
	Don't you?
	Yeah, you're terror convicted.
	It's a type of nudist.
	So what is your intention then?
	What?
	What is your intention?
	What are we talking about?
	Intention.
	What is your intention by posting those pictures?
	We already touched on that.
	I said it's I'm empowering myself as a woman based on what I went through prior to me getting married, me becoming Muslim, and all that stuff.
	All that plays a role.
	Just because you revert into Islam or whatever religion doesn't eliminate, as you stated, the sins and things you did prior to, right?
	All right, so are you a mother yet?
	No, I'm not.
	Do you want to be a mother?
	I'm not answering that.
	Oh my gosh.
	So again, hold on, hold on.
	What?
	What?
	Why would you not answer that?
	Because if I say no, I don't want to be a mother and Allah wrote for me to have a child.
	I'm going to feel bad.
	That's impossible.
	Or just answer the question.
	It's not an impossible logic.
	There's a lot of women that have children that did not want to have children.
	It's logically impossible what you said from your Muslim view.
	If Allah wrote that you're going to have kids, he just simply wrote that you're saying you don't want them right now.
	That's it.
	It doesn't change anything from your view.
	But he didn't write that.
	He wrote for me to say, I don't know.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's fine.
	So if he wrote that.
	You will make a great politician.
	I feel like this is how Christians are.
	Okay, so this is the problem with what this is what I'm trying to attack here is that if you, let's hypothetically say you had a child and they were a female, right?
	At what age would you teach them that showing their body is empowering?
	What age?
	I would teach them at all ages to be comfortable with who they are and how they go about doing that.
	I'm not going to judge them.
	Okay.
	As long as they're not harming anyone or breaking the path.
	Okay, if they came to you and said, mom, your pictures online, I just found them on accident.
	Some kid in the class actually brought them up in class.
	That harms me.
	Are you going to listen or are you going to say, oh, sweetheart, you just don't understand.
	I'm empowered.
	I would say that those pictures are how I chose to express myself.
	That's what I think.
	And he's, and the kid, the daughter or son says, mommy.
	And just to clarify, I have to say this, just to clarify, because you're taking the pictures too far.
	I don't know.
	I don't do sex work.
	I don't have any OnlyFans.
	And anybody who does, I have nothing against them, but that's not something I do.
	Great.
	I have sensual photos online that do go along with my poetry.
	I'm taking your standard, right?
	By the way, and not other people's.
	And doing what you do, I'm asking you a direct question.
	If you call, if you tell your own kid that that's empowering, right?
	I didn't say I'd say that.
	I would tell them that that's how I chose to express myself.
	Okay, and then they say, mommy, how you're continuing to express yourself hurts me.
	Are you going to respond to that or just say, well, no, I'm empowered?
	I take that into consideration.
	Okay.
	Because you should care about that.
	That's honestly when you ask me if I want to be a mother, I'm thinking about that when I'm thinking about children.
	I'm thinking about the fact that you have to consider someone else's feelings and emotions and all of that.
	Fortunately, but not what Allah says.
	So your opinion hasn't come down and talked to me about my instructions.
	A kid's opinion, in your own view, you are declared a Muslim, right?
	That's what you say.
	You're saying that your own kid's opinion, saying this is wrong, I don't like this, mommy, is actually, it takes precedent over your own God's view of it.
	No, because I've never had a direct conversation with Allah about my inspiration.
	So you've never had a direct conversation that Islam is true either from Allah.
	How would you know that?
	What do you mean?
	When did Allah tell you Islam, you choose Islam?
	I don't want to talk about that.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	You don't know my spiritual experiences?
	I never said I did, but your standard is if Allah has to talk to me directly to tell me something's wrong, then Allah would necessarily have to talk to you directly to know that Islam's true.
	Otherwise, why are you following it?
	And maybe that happens.
	It's written down the road.
	All right.
	Oh, we're going to do the gender swap.
	So before we pull these up, I want you guys, we're going to ask you, would you date the male version of you?
	So is it all ready to go?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Oh my God.
	That looks like my aged brother.
	So no, I would not.
	Oh, my God.
	That looks like your Asian brother?
	I said age.
	Oh, age.
	He's younger than me, so I was saying like older.
	You have a brother, though.
	Yeah, he's a.
	And he looks like this.
	Yeah.
	Well, he's 12 right now, so he doesn't have a lot of people.
	That's a yikes.
	Okay.
	It just looks like him if you.
	But would you date the male version of you?
	No.
	Are we talking about look-wise or like personality-wise?
	You know, what do we know about it?
	It's a pictures.
	What?
	It's fucking pictures.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Wait, what the?
	What the fuck?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	This one's fucked up.
	Yeah, would you date Dennis Rodman?
	I guess, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's.
	Would you date someone with all the same exact piercings as you?
	I feel like that'd be pretty cool, actually.
	I mean, I wouldn't care for the most part.
	Like, I have, like, I don't have preferences, basically, right?
	So I can date, like, the most basic looking guy, or I can find another guy that is, like, super body mods.
	I found this one guy.
	He's, oh, he's so hot.
	All right.
	Next.
	Yeah, split tongue and everything.
	I was like, fuck, dude.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Does he stimulate me mentally?
	Probably.
	Bro, this is like actually retarded.
	Can you just answer a question, please?
	I'm serious.
	I don't know.
	Wait, you honestly don't go around like being like a single person and you go, oh, I'm attracted to that person over there caught my eye.
	So everyone catches your eye equally?
	That doesn't make sense.
	I didn't even say that.
	Just because it's nothing doesn't mean it's everything.
	I'm just is that your poem?
	Is that a poem?
	She doesn't have anything.
	I'm just a fucking haiku.
	It's a lame-ass haiku, man.
	All right.
	So would you date the male version of you?
	What is wrong with you?
	I answered the question.
	What is wrong with you?
	I answered the question already.
	You said, I don't know.
	That's the answer.
	No, I said, does he stimulate me mentally?
	Is he attractive to you?
	Do you think he's attractive?
	Do you think he's physically attractive?
	Isn't being attracted stimulated mentally?
	That's a question.
	Wait, wait, how is this?
	This is another way of judging.
	Yes, do you think that's a question?
	Do you think that the male version of you is physically attractive?
	Sure.
	That's when you're attracted to someone physically, isn't that a stimulation of your mind?
	Do you find the male version of yourself?
	Doesn't that picture?
	Do you find that picture, male version of yourself, attractive?
	That wasn't the question.
	The question was, would I date that person?
	Would you just talk to him?
	Fine, okay.
	I'm changing the talk.
	I'm changing the question.
	Do you find the male version of you is like attractive?
	I think someone in the world would find that picture attack.
	Bro, I don't care what someone in the world is.
	Are you RCA?
	I'm a sapiosexual.
	How many times do I have to say that?
	Just throw an answer out there.
	No, you have to force me to just answer.
	How do you know?
	I'm not sexually attracted to anyone, though.
	That's not true.
	I'm attracted to like So on right at face value You see someone No, that's the same thing.
	There's zero attraction that triggers in your brain.
	No.
	Zero.
	You're not drawn to anybody unless you start talking to them.
	Correct.
	How are you drawn to talking to people then?
	People talk to me.
	I'm not invisible.
	So you don't read their energy at all?
	So you just do me a favor.
	Scoot your microphone this way.
	No, you turned it.
	Scooted it that way.
	Scoot it to the very edge of the table, edge of the table.
	Mic clip all the way at the bottom, please.
	All right, moving on.
	I'm not going to deal with that anymore.
	Next.
	Yeah.
	Would you do that?
	I think he's attractive.
	He is attractive.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And a programmer, so he has a lot of money.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Next.
	Nerd.
	Nerd.
	Fine.
	Would you date the male version of you, Tiffany?
	Yeah, why are you flying?
	Yeah.
	Because I'm flexible.
	I'll pull them back up.
	Don't worry.
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	Why?
	You wouldn't.
	Are you attracted to Asian men?
	Um, yeah.
	Sounds.
	Haven't you only dated white guys, though?
	I've only dated one guy.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Cool story.
	Didn't you meet him through the podcast?
	No.
	Kind of.
	Come on.
	What are you talking about?
	Didn't you like meet him through the podcast?
	No, we met through Instagram.
	He DM'd me.
	Yeah, but how did he find you?
	TikTok.
	He found you on TikTok.
	Oh, okay.
	Actually, that could be the case.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That shouldn't take too much credit, though.
	Not going to take all the credit.
	Next.
	Ew, no.
	Did you say ooh no?
	Just me with facial hair.
	That dude was right.
	That is true.
	It is actually just.
	They didn't really remember.
	It's literally just me with facial hair.
	It looks like who?
	He looks like Brunette Jeffrey Dahmer.
	Yikes.
	It just doesn't look right.
	It doesn't look good.
	It ain't right.
	All right.
	Next.
	Wow.
	Damn, that's like way different.
	Mine's like the same, and yours is just like a totally different person.
	I mean, the eyes are all fucked up.
	Yeah, the eyes have fucked up.
	Wow, you're kind of better.
	Alyssa, Is that a yes?
	Yes.
	I don't look like my dad in that one.
	Okay, so this is an upgrade from some of the pieces.
	I would.
	I would.
	All right.
	Okay, next.
	What the fuck?
	Wait, what the fuck?
	How did it even take my?
	Listen, this is unfair.
	Why did it take my beard away?
	I'm scared.
	Oh, you're taking that away.
	Would you?
	I don't even know what that is.
	You'll be a comic boy.
	No, I would run from that.
	I would run from that.
	Yeah, you look like a comic book character, like a super.
	Oh, that would extinguish that.
	Please, no, she beat your ass.
	She can't.
	Okay, all right.
	That's actually fast.
	Which one?
	The second one looks very realistic as a woman.
	Yeah, like a dark.
	I mean, fucking cross.
	You're a dorky, likable, like.
	I play pickleball.
	Easygoing, fun.
	Yeah, I would date middle.
	Yeah, I'll take middle.
	Why is it a little bit more?
	I'll take them both.
	Why not?
	A little looks a little like a trans woman, but whatever.
	If it's a female, I'm down.
	All right.
	I think that's it, right?
	I'm pretty sure.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it.
	Okay, guys, if you want, get the TTS in Kaibaka.
	Did I pull this up?
	I think I did.
	Kaibaka, thank you for the gifted 10 subs, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	All right, we're going to get into the questionnaire here.
	Actually, yeah, why not?
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	I put 30 grand minimum.
	I think that's enough to live off of.
	Sure.
	It's actually kind of a little bit more than what you would need.
	I don't know.
	I was making less than that, and I was doing just fine.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I guess I can't agree with that, like $30,000.
	$30,000.
	Okay, what about you?
	It was a month.
	A year.
	$100K.
	$100K?
	All right.
	What about you?
	Well, I would go with.
	i wrote it down there as 250k you said depends on when i get married and his age but you want me i think oh that's tiffany Wait.
	Oh, my bad.
	Okay, sorry.
	I got my things mixed up.
	You wrote, what, $150K to $250K.
	All right.
	And wait, what do you do for work again?
	Well, I'm a business owner.
	I have my own business.
	Okay, so you make around that much then?
	Okay.
	Tiffany?
	200K?
	200?
	But hold on, you said 200K to 500K.
	Yeah.
	Depends on what you're doing.
	What if you don't get the nose job, though?
	What?
	Like, if you don't get the nose job, are you going to stick to 200K?
	Like, do you feel once after the nose job, you're like 500K?
	Um, no, the nose job wouldn't change anything.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	But that's not changing anything with the money.
	It has nothing to do with it.
	500, half a mil?
	Half a mil?
	I mean, if I'm getting married at 30, I would want the guy to make 500K.
	So, like, let's say you're marrying a guy who's 32.
	I mean, he's going to be making 500K.
	Yeah.
	30.
	I mean, you can make 500,000.
	So that's like top 1%.
	Yeah.
	Do you think you're a top 1% girl?
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, honestly.
	Wait, why do you scoff at that?
	Are you like, yeah, she's not a 1% girl?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Wait, are you saying she's not a 1% girl?
	I scuffed at you for even asking that question.
	Why would it, hold on, why?
	Because I think it's degrading.
	Wait, how is it?
	Whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	How is it degrading?
	Do you think you're a top 1% girl?
	Yeah, why would that be degrading?
	Because you're saying you're implicating.
	Okay, so hold on.
	Do I need to affirm her as a 10% or excuse me, a 1% girl?
	You don't need to affirm or deny or anything.
	It's just the question that was even asked is like degrading.
	So but if somebody thinks they're a 1% person, whatever metric you might use for that sort of evaluation, must we affirm their self-identity?
	No, you don't have to affirm.
	It's the fact you even ask the question.
	But if I'm asking her, it's actually, I'm not even affirming or denying her own self-assessment.
	I'm simply asking if she herself thinks she's a person.
	I mean, I did a 100 degree reading, so.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so what's the answer?
	Yeah, I am.
	Why is that?
	What makes you a top 1% woman?
	I mean, I guess I come from a top 1% household in terms of income.
	Like my dad makes around that much.
	I'd want my husband to make more.
	So you said your dad makes like half a million a year?
	Well, our household income, yeah.
	Well, okay, so you and your mom.
	Yeah.
	The mom and dad combined.
	What do they do for work?
	Do they run a business?
	No, my dad's an engineer and my mom's an accountant.
	Okay.
	So just to be clear, you want a singular person to bring home the combined income of both your parents, of two people.
	Because you said you're a house.
	My dad makes the majority of it.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	So I get that you're going to be able to do that.
	I'd also make that much.
	What do you study?
	PolySign Econ on pre-law.
	So you're going to become an attorney?
	Yeah.
	What kind of an attorney?
	Probably corporate.
	Corp, like you are the internal, what's it called?
	Internal counsel for a corporation?
	Like a part of a legal team at a company.
	Or would you work for a legal firm and you would do corporate law?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you want children?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Let's say you find the top earner guy and he's making, let's go to the peak, 500K.
	And he said, well, I've got I'm doing the 500K.
	It's increasing.
	I want you to be my wife.
	Will you abandon law school to have children?
	Will you accept those?
	Yeah, totally.
	Oh, cool.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But wait, so I'm not sure, though, like you said that you believe that you're in the top 1% because you come from your parents are in the top 1% of earners.
	But you realize that.
	I mean, I'm saying I'm already part of the statistic.
	Do you know what I mean?
	I mean, your parents' wealth doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the school, though.
	Do you have siblings?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what if they just write you out of the will and you never see a penny of that?
	Or they're just like those hardcore parents that are like, I'm not going to, you're going to have to make your own way in life.
	The only angle I could see that being a type of sort of attribute that the man would like to see is that she's, if you are a part of that, it's a class thing, actually.
	It would be that you know how to operate within a higher, you know, socially, you know, almost like snobbery.
	Like you're already up there, so you understand how that works.
	Yeah, but show us your Kanye tattoos.
	Yeah.
	You want me to take off my shirt?
	No, like roll up your sleeve.
	Come on.
	It's going to be hard.
	Okay, that lowers the class a little bit.
	I have three.
	So at least the guy can, you know, 500K.
	Yeah, he can burn those off.
	But wait, laser them off.
	Okay, would you let you, if you said laser those off, would you?
	Say these for them, yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	But so I think even going ahead and granting, like, okay, your mom and dad, they make X amount of money.
	That puts them in the top 1% by extension.
	That like elevates you a little bit.
	Most men don't really care about your money.
	Like men don't care about your career success, your career ambition, the money that you make.
	Men don't really care about that.
	I don't want to become a lawyer.
	That's just my plan B.
	Okay, sure.
	That's what you're pursuing in the event that you're just forever alone or whatever.
	I mean, if my husband can then fund my business, then I don't want to work.
	Wait, what do you mean, fund your business?
	I want to make a clothing brand for skinny people.
	Innovation.
	Wait, hold on.
	I could actually get on board with that one.
	She's going to help.
	Because sizing is just not inclusive for skinnier people.
	It's not just the kids' section one.
	That's true.
	That's true, dude.
	It's hard to find it.
	Like, an extra small is like a medium these days.
	And I hate that.
	I mean, I. Like, I make the sizes like, you know, how like Yeezy does it, like, one, two, three.
	No, I don't know about Yeezy.
	I listen to fucking Leonard Skinner.
	Do you think I buy fucking Yeezy?
	Buy.
	Oh, my God.
	Is your shirt currently extra small?
	It's brandy, so it's one size.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Okay, but I was asking you if you think you're a 1% girl and you sided to the fact that while my parents, how so?
	Um, I guess my political beliefs your political beliefs?
	Yeah.
	You realize Trump won the popular vote?
	Trump won the popular vote.
	Your political, like there's plenty of conservative women.
	I guess, Brian.
	Did you even vote for Trump?
	Yeah.
	No.
	So you didn't even.
	Wait, okay, so you're.
	Oh.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry.
	Brian, I was going to say, Brian's kind of asking, like, if you get a top earner, he gets, it would be true that he would get a larger selection of women to choose from, right?
	So in people, let's say, let's ask, if there's three other women who are in the exact same class as you as far as income, kind of adopted in for their parents, shares political views and all that is included.
	What are you offering that man that you think the other contestants, if you will?
	So basically, like, what do I bring?
	Yeah, what do you bring?
	What do you bring to the table?
	The classic.
	It is classic, yeah.
	Me, just you.
	That's also a classic answer.
	Yeah, what do you want me to say?
	So it's like, it's like this.
	The man brings X, Y, Z. Guess what?
	Like, when you say 500K, that's not identical to him, right?
	So he doesn't say just me, right?
	Because if the man uses your standard and says, what's your name?
	Sorry?
	Tiffany.
	Tiffany.
	Says, Tiffany, you know, I want to get married.
	And you go, oh, cool.
	How much do you make?
	Because I have a standard.
	And they say, oh, I make 50K.
	And then you say, well, what else are you bringing to the table?
	What are you bringing in the table if it's not the, you know, the money and the support?
	My genes.
	And then, no, the dude says, it's just me.
	Like, that's not going to work, right?
	If the man says it, yeah, yeah.
	Definitely not.
	Yeah.
	So that's why it's like, we've heard that answer before.
	I think the correct answer in this climate for men, especially in your sort of political and social status, is what they want to hear is, I'm going to mother a lot of your children.
	That's what you bring to the table.
	Yeah, and my dinner table.
	And my jeans, like my children, children would get my shit.
	Actually, jeans might be a good answer.
	Jeans.
	Depending on how you look at it.
	Wait, when you say you're rare in terms of your political beliefs, what does that mean?
	Honestly, I mean, I realize that politics is just not for me in the last couple months.
	But I just don't really have, like, I don't know how to explain it.
	Wait, did you say politics is just not for you?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no, no.
	Okay, so no, I agree.
	that is rare and that's actually what men are looking for because okay if you're into politics you actually have no no you actually have to stop laughing You actually have to have a lot of love for the people to be in politics and be passionate about it.
	And I don't have love for the people.
	So I don't care.
	Wow.
	Like, I like keeping up with it.
	I just, like, don't have the passion that I'm willing to devote to it.
	Well, the thing is, the man doesn't care about your political beliefs.
	So in a sense, you do have the right perspective, just not care about it.
	Party is really important, though.
	And your political beliefs, like, kind of say a lot about your personality and how sensitive you are.
	I thought you said politics are not for you.
	So a guy that doesn't like politics.
	Like working in politics.
	I like politics as a hobby.
	But I just knew that it is for you.
	I just wouldn't ever be a politician or go into that field.
	I don't blame you.
	Or like trying to brand myself.
	Do you want to go into politics?
	No.
	Any of you ladies want to get into politics?
	I think we got some.
	Poetry.
	Why are you doing so much?
	I mean, I just have three degrees relating to politics.
	You have what?
	Three degrees relating to politics.
	Yo, I can't tell.
	Wait, okay.
	So hold on.
	Where were we?
	Were you talking to me?
	I don't, probably not.
	Wait, we were going around the table.
	Oh, what would you want the minimum?
	Oh, okay.
	So $500,000.
	You want a 1% guy.
	You scoffed at it.
	You think you're a 1% guy.
	Let me ask you.
	Tiffany.
	Tiffany, let me ask a couple questions here, okay?
	How many children do you want?
	Two?
	Two?
	Okay.
	Are you a virgin?
	Yes.
	Are you going to homeschool your kids? Yes.
	Yeah.
	Are you submissive?
	I could be.
	What do you mean you could be?
	I'm not a submissive person in general, but I could submit if I chose to.
	To your boyfriend or husband?
	Yeah.
	Will you take your husband's last name?
	Yeah.
	Will you.
	I don't know what.
	Shit.
	It evaded me.
	The question left my brain.
	I think she wins.
	Is that a one percent?
	Is it chat?
	Is it one percent?
	Does she win?
	Is she one percent girl?
	What's the major of your boyfriend?
	Virgin.
	He's also poli-sci.
	Will you get rid of?
	Will you have the tattoos lasered off?
	If he pays for the removal, yeah.
	If your boyfriend, will you stop listening?
	Never mind.
	To Kanye?
	He says you can't get a nose job, too.
	He says you can't, even if they want to get one.
	You got to stop listening to Kanye.
	Will you do it?
	It's very lonesy for you.
	Okay.
	Or how about you can listen to his first three albums?
	If the guy's like, oh, you shouldn't get a nose job and stop listening to Kanye because of what he tweets and stuff and stuff like that.
	Like, I already don't like you.
	Like, we're not compatible and he's probably kind of gay.
	Wait a second.
	If he says don't get a nose job.
	Yeah.
	You're not going to, but you'll let him remove the tattoo, but not get in the way of the nose job.
	I mean.
	What is his passion for the nose job?
	That's a crazy hill to die on.
	It depends on the reason behind why he doesn't want me to get a nose job.
	Because most men don't care if women get plastic surgery as long as it doesn't look botched.
	I'm still against it.
	If it looks good, men generally don't care.
	But if the man's if my boyfriend get a nose job because you look fine and perfect already, that's like such a woman thing to say.
	Like, you're so gay.
	Okay, how about if you say you can get a nose job, but I get to determine the shape of it like why would you want like what if he likes a piggy body?
	What if he wants a piggy nose for his wife because he thinks that's attractive, yeah, attractive?
	Yeah, what if he says that?
	500k is the man of your dreams.
	500k is not the man of my dreams because I would also be making that much.
	Oh, there it is.
	You should do a one-size-fits-all store.
	I feel like you could corner every market with that.
	All right, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	It depends on the design case at the time.
	The what?
	The what?
	Deside guys, whoever's president, you know, the economy, things like that.
	As long as I'm comfortable, 50 to 80 would be nice.
	Okay, Felicity, what about you?
	150.
	150.
	All right.
	How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
	Um, I'm 4'10.
	The shortest guy I date is like 5'5.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'6.
	Uh, shortest guy I would date is like, I don't know, I don't care.
	Profound.
	I'm 5'5, and I think I put NA.
	You did put NA.
	That was crazy.
	At least I'm consistent.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'2, and I think the shortest guy was 5'9.
	Okay, Tiffany.
	5'5 and 5'9.
	Kill me.
	Yep, that's kind of how it works.
	5'9.
	My apologies.
	No, how tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
	Oh.
	I'm 5'1, so it's pretty diverse there, probably 5'5.
	If I had to.
	Sure, Felicity.
	I'm 5'5.
	Shortest I would date, like 5'8 or 5'9.
	Sure.
	All right.
	Would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike?
	Totally a man.
	I could probably take him out better than I could a bear.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm gonna say bear.
	What about you?
	I said bear.
	Definitely a man.
	Why would I cross path with a bear?
	Man.
	Okay, man.
	I put, I don't know, but I think man.
	Okay.
	A tough one, but I chose man.
	Man.
	So wait.
	Bear, bear for the two of you?
	Okay.
	Why do you pick bear?
	Why don't you pick man?
	Listen, you're gonna think I'm bad faith for saying this, but I just adore animals more than anything.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	What about trees?
	I've just been in too many SA situations, too many stories.
	I don't want to be on a path alone with another man.
	Okay, so like sort of your own anecdotal experience, you've had a lot of bad experiences.
	So you pick a wild animal over a man.
	What, I mean, if you had to attribute, like, let's say the risk, the likelihood of risk, or a risk percentage, if you had to say, okay, I think 50% of men would do this, or maybe 20%, or 80%.
	If you had to put a percentage to it, what would it be?
	A percentage of men that would.
	SA.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I know.
	How about a guess?
	I don't even want to say because that's just insulting to the male species.
	Like, I don't want to assume a percentage of men that would.
	Do you think it's a majority of men?
	I don't know.
	Okay, did you?
	I would hope not.
	Do you think it's a minority of men?
	There's some sort of percentage, of course, but I just don't know what it is.
	Yeah, just take a guess.
	I'm not, your guess doesn't have to be correct.
	It could just be a guess.
	I don't want to guess because it could, if I guess too high, it can make me look bad.
	And if I guess too low, it can make me look bad.
	Like, I don't know.
	But I think in a way, she actually gave you the answer.
	Did she, though?
	Yeah.
	No, I didn't give you any of that bear.
	She gave you the answer.
	That says how she shakes.
	No, that's not giving it the answer.
	It is because you picked the bear.
	No, that's what I'm more comfortable with.
	He asked me in generally saying, what's the percentage of all men that would essay?
	That's like a completely different question.
	I'm just not comfortable alone with men.
	Wait, but you're comfortable alone with bears.
	That's the answer.
	At least I won't end up in an SA.
	There's not a possibility.
	Well, it'll eat your face off, though.
	But like, the thing is, if you know, as long as you're not going to get SA'd, the danger of a black bear, let's say, attacking you.
	Why does the bear have to be black?
	Because they commit more of the attacks.
	It's not an action.
	Statistically.
	It's not an American bear.
	Bears aren't asexual.
	No, but it's actually true that black bears commit more of the attacks.
	So the question is, how did you, like, you're just going from your experience that this has happened to you before?
	But Brian asked you a fair question is to say, like, well, a lot of things happened to other people before.
	And isn't it fair to say statistically that there's more people who don't commit aggression against other people than there are who do?
	Just for any given, for any given violation?
	A lot of SA cases go unreported, so I don't know.
	Yeah, based off of the data that is out there, you could look at like the DOJ, the FBI, crime statistics.
	So you could base it off of, well, what we do know.
	So based off what we do know, based off feminist propaganda that you've likely heard, what do you think?
	I'm not answering.
	But I did answer the question related to comfortability, and I would be more comfortable in the face of an animal than I would a male alone in the animal.
	Wait, I'm just a little confused.
	You said you don't like to be alone with men, yet like there's a video of you in the pool, like letting the dude pour alcohol down your throat.
	There were several people around.
	We were not alone.
	Okay.
	So have you ever had the one-night stand?
	I have had one, yes.
	Okay.
	Is that how you met your current?
	And actually, I wasn't alone.
	I had a friend.
	The friend was a witness to your sexual encounter?
	The friend was in the vicinity of...
	It was an orgy?
	No, it was an orgy.
	Okay.
	I didn't go alone to a man's place.
	Okay.
	So you're saying that let's switch up the scenario.
	Let's say at the zoo, there's a section and it's just a man at the zoo, right?
	And you're at the zoo alone, and you're like looking at all the animals from afar.
	You're telling me that you're more likely to get into the enclosure with the bear than the man.
	If you were to choose?
	A zoo is a really bad example to use.
	Yeah, just engage with the hypothetical.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, if you had to pick one, do you get in the enclosure with the bear or with the man?
	Yeah, if you had to pick one, do you get in the enclosure with the bear or with the man?
	Seriously, I don't know.
	Because she's a polypsycho.
	Bro, you mean you don't know?
	Here, do you need, how about this?
	I'm going to give you 10 seconds to figure it out.
	One, two?
	I don't know.
	I did figure it out.
	That's my answer.
	Yeah, that.
	Okay, think about it, though.
	Here's the hypothetical.
	You can get in one or the other, and you have to choose.
	Which do you get in?
	Here, watch.
	Let me make that simpler.
	It's not bad.
	Like, just question and die.
	No, it's too much.
	No, it definitely is because a lot of times that people are going to commit violence or whatever when people are alone, right?
	So if you're saying a zoo and there's other people around the man with knock on the side.
	No, I said that.
	No, I said there's no one there but her.
	It's just her.
	She's the only patron at the same time.
	For sure.
	I understand what she's saying then.
	For sure.
	What do you mean she's saying she doesn't know?
	She says she doesn't know.
	If only it was opposite day.
	So, okay.
	How about if they're alone?
	If she's alone, she goes into the bear enclosure, whatever, right?
	So good.
	She could get eaten, right?
	But if she's alone and she goes into the male one, what's worse?
	What's worse, getting essayed or getting eaten?
	I think getting essayed, to be honest.
	So there's a bunch of people that's always trying to gaslight you, tell you that that's not what happened and blah, blah, blah.
	This time.
	You'd rather die than the low percent chance of getting essayed.
	It's not a low percent.
	How did you determine the percentage?
	That's what Brian asked you.
	How do you determine the percentage of going into an enclosure?
	I mean, she probably won't say it, but to me, I feel like whenever I'm around like majority of men.
	Okay, how many times?
	Yeah, what percentage?
	Give us a percentage.
	Me?
	Okay.
	80.
	80.
	Okay, so 80%.
	Yeah.
	Four out of five men are essayers.
	Do you have brothers?
	Yeah, I have brothers.
	You have multiple brothers.
	How many brothers?
	I have two.
	Two.
	So, okay, one of them, maybe even both of them, are essayers.
	Okay.
	This is just an extension of your own logic.
	Okay, so you're just throwing it.
	I'm acting like that's going to hurt my feelings or do something to my brain, but it's just a possibility anyone could be.
	I mean, I'm not really concerned if it hurts your feelings or not, but typically people like that.
	You're like trying to get a getcha moment.
	Not really a gotcha, but so just to be clear, your own blood, your two brothers, one or both of them are.
	One of them is a piece of shit.
	I'm not going to sit here and defend them.
	What about your father?
	Is he 80% chance he's an essayer?
	I mean, it could be.
	Uncles, cousins?
	Could be.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	But from my perspective and like my experience, most people are just like that.
	This is why I try to bring this hypothetical into more realistic things.
	You know, the path in the woods is actually common enough.
	But I would say the most common example of a man and a woman in an enclosed area that happens every single day would be a man and a woman in an elevator.
	Would you agree?
	And how many women have felt uncomfortable?
	No, first of all.
	I didn't ask if they're uncomfortable.
	We're talking about the reality of something happening, not what you feel.
	So would you agree that one of the most common habitual moments where men and women are together alone would be an elevator?
	Yes.
	Okay, so if you were to take 100 elevator trips with men and women, there's just a man and a woman in there.
	Like you could take a live feed of like a security camera.
	You could probably collect this, right?
	Is it more likely that we would find an essay in that example?
	Is that more likely than if we introduced a bear?
	It's still not a good example.
	What do you mean?
	Because you get off the elevator.
	There's going to be 180 people on or whatever.
	Like, you're still not.
	What are you talking about?
	The man can hit.
	Can a man in an elevator?
	If there's like a possibility that someone's going to come in, why would they want to essay you in a stop?
	You can stop the elevator.
	If a man stopped the elevator while I was in it alone with him, I'd freak out.
	I know.
	How many times, on like CCTV and all these security cameras, how many times do you think it's happened where a man and a woman were in an elevator and the man didn't do that versus when they did?
	The reason why there's those videos that stops happening is because they're not even in the elevator.
	That's another question.
	If I'm stuck on an elevator with a man, like I just told you he could push the button, you said you'd be scared at that point.
	I'm asking, if the first step of essaying in this instance is pushing the button and stopping the elevator and doing this thing, I'm asking you, what's more likely to occur?
	A man in an elevator attacking you, being that you're both alone in the elevator, or a bear attacking you if you're both alone in the elevator.
	Both.
	Both same likelihood.
	Because now you're talking about an enclosed space versus I'm in lone in the woods.
	Oh, so men are so men are more likely to aggress you if you're in an enclosed space?
	I mean, yes.
	That a bear?
	What do you mean?
	No, I'm saying they would both attack you at that point.
	Now I'm in close vicinity versus we're in the woods and the bear's over there and I'm walking on my back.
	Well, is wait.
	So is the woods an enclosed space or not?
	No, the woods is not an enclosed space.
	Oh, so that's not consistent then.
	No, but that's why your example was bad.
	Well, a field isn't an enclosed closed space.
	You know how many people get aggressed in an open field?
	I mean, I don't.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand what your standard here is, like how you're measuring this stuff.
	We're talking about a field or a wood space.
	I just gave you an example that happens every single day in every building right here in this city, right?
	There's the elevator.
	There's literally like a seven 10 foot different space.
	enclosed in the same place and what you said is how many bear attacks happen versus essays I just want to know.
	Also, what if the bear is in the elevator?
	That's what I said.
	I said at that point they would both likely attack me because we're close together.
	Now there's like a definitely a bear is not guaranteed to.
	Okay, here's it.
	Here's one more follow-up question and we can move on.
	I'm just saying that it's like.
	One more question.
	If a bear was in an elevator with you, right?
	Or on a path.
	If a bear was on a path with you, would you want another bear, an additional bear or a man?
	what if a bear was on a path with you and you thought look look if you if you were on a path with a bear and you were you looked at the bear and you were fearful of the bear would you want an additional bear or a man I would want a man.
	Okay.
	At least the bear could attack the man.
	Like, I'm not anxious.
	That's fine.
	That's not exactly.
	That's the reason.
	Kumphtmeier has donated $200.
	I can't believe it.
	But Alien is the sweetest and most honest soul on this panel.
	She can answer a question.
	I know you like trees, and I'm working with a twig.
	Let's make it happen.
	Wow.
	You want to think he's shooting a shot, to be honest.
	I don't know what to tell you, dude.
	I'm not looking for a relationship, but thank you.
	I don't know.
	This whole man versus bear thing, it's just all cap.
	Like, have you guys seen a woman's reaction to a spider?
	I have a spider.
	I just think it's unlikely for a bear to attack you and, you know, like actually delete you.
	I feel like they're going to maul you and then you're just going to be left like that, you know?
	No, they're probably gonna.
	It's they eat you alive.
	Bears eat you.
	Yeah, not always.
	And men don't always essay women.
	What are you doing with that?
	The fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Yeah, it's just going off on everyone.
	Yeah, that's what everybody can get the smoke, I guess.
	How about this?
	If you could, this is sort of related to the two women who answered Bear.
	If you could get rid of all men, and this would mean that women would never experience essay from men again, would you do it?
	I don't think it really matters because you can still get essayed by women, too.
	Yeah.
	Listen, I've been there, so I'm just okay.
	Fine.
	How about in this hypothetical, essay becomes impossible.
	So women couldn't essay you either, but they get to kick it.
	But all the men got to go.
	What?
	I mean, of course, I would want to be in a world where no one gets essayed.
	So just to be clear, you would get rid of all men if it meant that another woman would never experience essay from men again.
	If they were going to go anyway, I wouldn't just voluntarily be like, hey, all men need to.
	No, you have the power.
	Like, you have a magic button.
	You press the magic button, all men disappear, and that means no woman will ever be essayed again.
	How about essay just disappear?
	Huh?
	How about essay just disappear?
	How about that?
	Cool.
	Answer the actual question, though.
	Done.
	Just answer, why can't you, just answer the question.
	If it's in the sake of essay, then I would say, yeah.
	I mean, to me, it's kind of a betrayal because my best friend is a male, right?
	But like I said, for the sake of like essay, I probably would say, yeah, men can get the fuck out of here.
	Okay, what's your answer?
	I answered it already.
	No, you didn't.
	Answer the question.
	What is going on?
	Like, I feel like I'm saying words.
	I'm speaking English, right?
	I said, well, how about SA?
	You didn't answer the question.
	Here, two plus two equals what?
	Depends on the person.
	You're actually retarding.
	You're actually fucking retarded.
	Okay.
	Relax.
	Calm down.
	No, just like, can you be good faith?
	Answer the question.
	I did answer it.
	You just don't like my answer.
	You said, I wish essay would go away.
	No, that's not an answer.
	I said, how about essay just go away?
	If you're going to, you know, imitate me, at least get the sentence correct.
	It's a hot take.
	Wow, great.
	Maybe we can, war can go away too.
	I can empty platitude.
	Race isn't bad.
	Well, that's a hypothetical answer.
	So just let her.
	Yeah, I did give a hypothetical.
	I answered your question with a hypothetical.
	I was like, how about essay just disappear?
	Yeah, that's not an answer.
	But it's a hypothetical answer.
	Wow, I don't even know what the fuck that means.
	Why don't you answer the actual question?
	Holy shit.
	Don't be pissy when we're going fucking late because y'all can't answer a question.
	Answer the question.
	This seems like an easy answer.
	Like, no, I wouldn't fucking eugenics the entire male species because like 1% of them are criminals and predators.
	But okay, your refusal to answer the question further points.
	I mean, you won't actually give an answer, but I'm just going to assume then that your refusal to just immediately knee-jerk, no, I'm not going to kill 3 billion people so that some people aren't victimized.
	Yeah.
	You're a sexist against men.
	Why are you attacking me?
	Why are you refusing to answer the question?
	I'm just being myself.
	What you told me to be at the beginning of the show.
	Annoying?
	Then I'm annoying to you.
	No, you're just annoying, period.
	Just I don't understand what's so difficult here.
	Do you not understand the question?
	I can clarify.
	Would you like me to provide a clarification?
	I understood the question perfectly.
	Okay, repeat the question back to me.
	You were asking me if I'd get rid of all men if that meant that essay didn't exist anymore.
	Yep.
	Cool.
	I said what I said.
	Yeah.
	Why are we going to ask you?
	Yeah, you said essay bad.
	I agree with you.
	Essay bad.
	Do I need to repeat the question again?
	What?
	Okay, there's two possible answers to the question.
	Yes, I would get rid of men.
	No, I would not get rid of men.
	And I answered it.
	Which of the two?
	I just didn't answer it the way you wanted me to.
	Yeah, it's not answering the question.
	I thought this was a podcast and I could answer questions the way I like to answer questions.
	Yeah, but there's an expectation that you participate in good faith.
	I am participating.
	No, you're not.
	Yes, I am.
	I'm actually been contributing more to the conversation.
	You've been contributing, but you haven't been actually contributing in good faith.
	What?
	These are my answers.
	Now I'm lost in the sauce.
	I'm confused.
	If a question is asked and buried in that question is two possible answers and you refuse to pick one of those two possible answers and you just say, well, a component of what is inside that question, I disagree with that specific thing.
	That's not an answer to the question.
	So like, look, chocolate or videl ice cream?
	Chocolate.
	Okay.
	You didn't say strawberry.
	No, I didn't.
	Why not?
	Because you said chocolate area.
	But those questions, that's a simple question.
	These aren't simple questions.
	I'm not saying it's a simple question.
	It is actually presented as a simple question.
	The answer, I mean, to most people, I mean, anyone else want to answer the hypothetical?
	Do you eliminate an entire section of humanity because just to eliminate the minority of perpetrations that are done by that group?
	Or do you not?
	I mean, to me, it's a simple not.
	It's not justified, right?
	You don't just.
	I think you try to make the circle as small as possible, though.
	Yeah, you don't eliminate, right?
	There's all sorts of crazy consequences and entailments for eliminating the male sex, right?
	Right, but of course, the consequences should be done, you know, for the guys who do that.
	Sure, but the question isn't that.
	The question is simple.
	Do you eliminate, do you use elimination as a tactic to get rid of a small aspect of that population's behavior?
	The answer is no.
	No, yeah.
	Why is that hard to say no?
	I mean, it's a reasonable answer to say no.
	I wouldn't eliminate everybody.
	Because then that's also implying that you're okay with a small percentage of the male species.
	That's not.
	No, no, no.
	Logically not.
	No, logically it's not.
	That's how I think.
	You're asking me.
	Okay, but now that we've gone ahead and granted that no, if you were to say I would not get rid of all these men, how can I think it's extremely unfair that I can't like say what I'm thinking?
	Like that's just how I'm thinking.
	But there's a logical failure and we're trying to correct the logical failure.
	Logical failure of my opinion.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Because your brother and your dad and your grandpa and all that can be eliminated too.
	And it's just not an answer.
	What you're giving is not an answer.
	It's just there's a lot of it that you're not even considering.
	It's like you're coming from an anger.
	What?
	Most of your reactions is coming from a correct.
	No, I'll make this super simple.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Okay.
	Do you think littering is bad?
	Yeah.
	Here, let's put it split, okay?
	Put it split.
	Do you think littering is bad?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Do you think we should end the entire human species so we can stop littering?
	Of course not, but littering is not SA.
	Hold on.
	How can you even compare those two?
	I'm addressing your previous.
	Hold on.
	Stop, stop.
	I'm addressing your previous statement.
	So your previous statement was: if I choose to say no, I want to not eliminate all men, that means that I'm justifying this action of SA, right?
	But you're very easily like you saying, no, hold on, hold on, let me explain it.
	Now I add, it's, it makes sense.
	It's about to make sense.
	So I asked, would you eliminate all humans to get rid of, we all agree, littering is a bad thing.
	Would you get rid of all humans to stop littering?
	No, you wouldn't.
	That doesn't mean that you're saying that littering is okay because you would preserve all of humans.
	In this case, you saying that you would preserve all men doesn't mean that you're saying that SA is okay.
	That's not what we're asking.
	Simple.
	You're just saying that humans existing is more valuable than eliminating littering or eliminating SA.
	Both of you guys's examples that you use, which is chocolate and vanilla, and now you're comparing it to littering, is absolutely horrifying.
	SA is a completely different thing.
	No, those are two different things.
	The chocolate and vanilla thing was to demonstrate how to answer an either-or question.
	The analogy he's using demonstrates that if you don't take some crazy measure to eliminate something, some sort of consequentialist view, where you just eliminate everything.
	For instance, if someone's a vegan and they're vegan because they don't like harming animals, well, the best thing to do if you want to eliminate all harm for animals is actually to eliminate all animals, right?
	Now, if a vegan says, no, I'm not going to eliminate all animals, I'm going to work on reducing the existing harm on animals, right?
	It doesn't follow that they support harming animals if they don't hit the elimination button.
	That's all we're trying to say.
	Got it.
	I think wait, question.
	Question.
	If we could, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
	Pro-choice.
	A pro-choice Muslim?
	I didn't know.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, this won't really have.
	I was going to say, if we could stop all abortion, that's such a dumb.
	Some people die.
	It's like a medical need for some people.
	How about this?
	If, let's say we got rid of all women who are pro-life, like you just deleted them.
	And then like the next election cycle, that would mean that if we got rid of conservative women, it would mean that there would just be, it would pretty much mean Democrats would just continue to win.
	They're pro-choice.
	So if we eliminated all pro-life women so that you guys can maintain abortion rights, would you do it?
	If I say... Just go ahead.
	If you say... Go ahead.
	If I say yes, we'll eliminate all pro-life women just to keep pro-choice, that's also not that's me killing off a good number of women.
	But then if I say we'll keep all pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice, that's also killing off a percentage of women because some people need to have abortions to live.
	But it's a medical need for someone.
	I'm not killing off the pro-choice women.
	It's just the pro-life women that you'd get rid of.
	I know.
	If I said that I would kill off the pro-life women, then that's a good portion of women that die.
	But then if I keep the pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice, some women also die because it's a medical need for some women to get an abortion.
	Killing pro-life women doesn't mean that abortion would go away.
	What?
	Like, your ability to get an abortion in a blue state would remain lost.
	What you just said.
	So how does this question is different than the other question that you have?
	I still said I don't, I don't, I wouldn't decide.
	I just, I basically still said.
	You still can't decide.
	Yes, I was saying if I choose to keep.
	But you were leaning towards not killing.
	But when I don't want to kill anyone.
	Okay, there you go.
	So she doesn't.
	I don't kill anyone.
	Context is very important to you.
	So what if the context was always you have to decide or the world's going to end or something?
	Nukes are going to go off.
	But you have to decide.
	Would that context be helpful?
	Is there any context that would be like super helpful?
	No.
	Okay.
	So if you, how about this?
	There's a bullet.
	There's a gun to your head.
	If you don't decide, you get popped.
	That's a good one.
	If you don't give out your yes and or no answer, they would if you had to.
	Yeah.
	So now are you asking if she would sacrifice herself?
	That's the point.
	Not sacrifice herself to have that.
	No, actually saving herself.
	That's actually saving herself.
	That's the opposite.
	Not by actually enacting the thing necessarily, but simply by giving your opinion.
	Yes.
	In this, no, in this hypothetical.
	Okay, explain it to me.
	In this hypothetical, you're asking her whether, gun to her head, right?
	Gun to her head.
	If she wants to kill off one group of people over the other, I think at this point, I would just, if I was her, I would just be like, I would rather die.
	Because why are you giving me that?
	That choice is just power.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, my God.
	Let me.
	Okay.
	How did you get to know that?
	She doesn't have to get here.
	Because he's attacking me for whatever reason.
	She doesn't have the power to see said thing through.
	The gun to the head is simply, if you don't just state an answer, then you get the bullet.
	Exactly.
	So just to be clear, and you're not actually changing anything.
	Nothing actually happens.
	You're just giving your opinion on something.
	Got it.
	You would rather take a bullet to the dome than just say, than just answer a question.
	I'm just confused.
	Clearly.
	Why my life has to be at stake in this?
	Yeah, have you heard of a hypothetical?
	Why am I getting all the hypotheticals?
	The reason we got to the gun to the head is because it's the only way we can get an answer from you.
	That's not.
	That is not actually what it looks like.
	That's basically the news.
	That doesn't work.
	Yeah, it still doesn't work.
	And the thing is, I'm answering the questions.
	I'm just not answering it the way you want me to.
	Do you prefer red or blue?
	I prefer thinking orange.
	Red.
	Yeah, but it's like I gave you two.
	That answer doesn't affect anyone's life or leave anyone at risk or no one dies in the answer to that.
	Yeah, but if you answer any of the questions that we've asked you tonight, that doesn't have an impact either.
	It does on me, on my image.
	I don't want to say anything wrong.
	Bro, whatever you're doing right now.
	And also I feel bad.
	Whatever you're doing now, trust me, it looks worse than just.
	Okay, look.
	Well, since you're just being stubborn or whatever, I'm just going to assume you're a sexist then.
	Whatever.
	Okay, cool.
	Some Arabic or whatever.
	I don't even know what that means.
	Literally, like the name of the podcast, whatever.
	Okay, cool.
	Let me change it really quick.
	I'm assuming you're just going to struggle with this one too, or just be intentionally malicious.
	But let's change the question from Let's change it from black person or bear.
	Do you think that if somebody picks a bear over a black person that they're racist?
	You should spice it up and say it depends.
	I've literally literally, I don't know, like another I don't know.
	And also, I feel like you're intentionally giving me more complicated questions and then getting more upset that I won't answer the more complicated questions.
	Okay, super simple.
	If a white person is like, oh, I would rather I pick the bear over being in the forest with a black person, would you think they're racist?
	Wait, a black man.
	I would ask them why.
	It's random.
	So the person is like, it wouldn't matter if it's a black man or a black woman.
	I'd still pick the bear.
	And I'd understand.
	But would you think they're sure?
	You understand.
	Would you think they're racist?
	No, I'd ask why.
	I'd ask why.
	Because I was victimized by a black person.
	Well, then I'd say that depending on the race.
	Well, you said white person is saying this.
	So then, yes, I'd be like, okay, well, then you're generalizing all black people.
	But that's literally what you're doing with men.
	How?
	Exactly.
	What?
	That's exactly what you're doing.
	That's exactly your reasoning with men.
	You said.
	No, I said I don't feel comfortable.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and what if a white man?
	I don't feel comfortable.
	I'm not saying that all men would rape me because sorry.
	Just say SA.
	I'm not saying that all men would SA me.
	I'm saying I don't feel comfortable.
	So I'm wiping it back on me.
	You're saying how I feel about that.
	Well, you're saying you're more comfortable with a wild beast than with a man.
	But the way you come to that conclusion is a generalization, correct?
	No, I'm flipping it on me and I'm saying I don't feel comfortable.
	Yeah, you don't.
	I'm not looking at a man and being like, oh, he's not.
	No, no.
	Look, I know you don't feel comfortable.
	I'm going before that.
	How you came to the conclusion that you're not comfortable is you have, that's a generalization.
	You have to, you're taking from particular things that happened.
	To me.
	Yeah.
	And you're making a general statement, right?
	And that's exactly why I said you're coming from anger towards men.
	That's how you generalize.
	And in your head, when it went.
	Why are you using the word anger?
	Because weird.
	I'm not angry at all.
	It is.
	It has to be a source.
	Yeah, but the source of that is fear and then anger and resentment.
	You can be angry.
	The same kind of negative feeling towards men.
	A negative feeling.
	I'm kind of offended, actually, that you're using the word anger because I think that as women of color, black women specifically, they're always viewed as angry.
	And I'm not angry.
	I'm uncomfortable.
	And you said negative feelings.
	Those negative feelings all have different statuses, different emotions.
	Listen, this is a good idea.
	You can't generalize anger.
	I'm not angry at all.
	I'm uncomfortable.
	You've generalized men.
	No, I did not generalize men.
	I flipped it on me and said what I'm comfortable with and what I'm uncomfortable with.
	I didn't say all men would do that to me.
	That's because when you pick a bear instead of my core belief is based on me, not me saying that all men would say that.
	I'm not sure about the base of it.
	You just said the bear.
	That's the base.
	No.
	Your core belief.
	If you're going to debate with me.
	Your core belief is picking a bear over a man.
	Period.
	End of the story.
	My core belief is that I'm uncomfortable.
	Be alone.
	Wild bear that could kill you over a man because deep down you believe men are worse than wild animal.
	No.
	What if she just feels that way about just people in general?
	No, we actually talked.
	The question was a man.
	Not just people, yeah.
	But I have another question.
	If you got to know, how many minutes to get to know somebody, in this case, a man, on the path, would then you determine you'd rather be with him than a bear?
	Is there like a, you think there's like maybe a threshold at which you decided, oh, okay, I trust this person?
	No, I don't think there's a threshold.
	It's just that still the bear no matter what?
	It's just the uncomfortable, it's just the discomfort of being alone.
	Okay, do you have a brother?
	I do.
	Do you have a father?
	I do.
	Okay, so let's take your father.
	You would choose the bear to be alone on the path with your, with, you'd be alone on a path with your, with a bear, and you would choose the bear over your own father.
	No, I choose my father.
	But why?
	Because I know my father.
	Okay, so that's what I'm asking.
	Is there a threshold where you learn that the person earns the trust, in this case a man?
	What's the threshold at which the man earns your trust such that you'll pick him over the bear?
	Probably a few days, weeks, months.
	How much money does he have to make?
	I'm just kidding.
	Well, that's what I'm asking.
	It really, this question comes down to trust and knowing people.
	And what the initial question is asking people to generalize.
	It's actually forcing a generalization.
	But it is wild because if you look at it reasonably, especially with the second hypothetical where you actually encounter a bear and now you're in danger, who do you choose?
	You said a man.
	Right.
	And I disagree with you.
	I don't think it's forcing you to generalize because you're still asking me and you asked me why.
	And then I brought up a personal experience of mine.
	So it's based on, it's subjective.
	It's based on what I went through.
	That's why I answered it the way I did.
	Right.
	But because someone like your dad exists, that you, is it fair to say there's people like your dad?
	There are people like your dad?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	So if there are people like your dad, you know, you're hedging your bet that there's less people like your dad that are kind, that aren't going to do this terrible thing to you, right?
	You're actually assuming that there's more people who would hurt you than less.
	Yes.
	Why would you assume that?
	I'm not assuming that.
	I'm choosing a safer option.
	That is.
	Regardless of whether they would hurt me or not.
	Okay, that is choosing that.
	Like, for instance, if it's not the general question of a man or a bear, if there's a collection of men, there's a hundred men, and you don't know which men you're going to get.
	Like, let's say that it's 100 people.
	You just have no idea which man you're going to get.
	But you know there's men like your father in there.
	If we ask you bear or man, your choice is still assuming the worst of the collection of men.
	That you're assuming the statistics that your bet, right?
	You're making a bet.
	Your bet is on that you're going to get hurt if you choose the man and you're risking getting hurt with the bear.
	You already know there's a high likelihood of being hurt by the bear.
	I disagree with this because a generalization would be me saying right now that everybody at this table as a woman should have chose the bear because all men are dangerous in some way.
	But that's not what I'm saying.
	I'm saying I'm more uncomfortable with being on a pathway alone with a male than an animal.
	That's what I'm saying for me.
	But there are people at this table that said they'd be more comfortable with a male on the pathway.
	Okay, cool.
	Why?
	Because they have their own personal experiences.
	So it's not generalized.
	It's well, no, there's a way to take their personal experience and see if it maps onto reality and to take your personal experience and see if it maps onto reality.
	That's exactly.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So like I, it doesn't match onto reality because I'm subjective.
	Like you're admitting that your own, I know, but you're admitting that your own experience is inconsistent with general reality.
	That most men.
	It could be.
	That's why when you asked, it could be because that's why when you asked me about the percentage, I didn't want to give a percentage because I don't know the percentage.
	It could be a small group of men are capable of SA versus a large group of men.
	Well, that's why I used the elevator example because the elevator example demonstrates that a million times a day, more than that, I couldn't even put a number on it.
	Everywhere around the world, there's a man who gets in the elevator with a woman.
	And more of the times that happens by a lot, the man doesn't harm or even threaten the woman.
	Okay.
	But if you swap the man in the elevator with a bear, what do you think the percent difference is going to be with harm with someone being hurt?
	I don't like the elevator.
	You don't like scenarios.
	I don't because it's a freaking enclosed room versus the woods.
	Like what?
	Do you eat dinner?
	And if so, how do you decide what to eat?
	Don't compare SA to dinner.
	I'm compared to dinner.
	I'm freaking out.
	I'm talking about your indecision.
	The pattern of your indecision.
	I'm talking about the bad.
	Just because I have an indecision to these complex, complicated questions that also have emotional reasons behind them doesn't mean I have, I'm indecisive in my regular existence.
	Understandable.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But you agree that you're a sexist?
	I'm not a sexist.
	I mean, you kind of are, though.
	Against men?
	Kind of are.
	I'm not.
	I mean, you'd rather be with a wild animal than alone with a man.
	It's kind of a sexist statement.
	No, it's just I'm more comfortable with that.
	That doesn't mean that I think all men are capable of SA.
	Yeah, what percentage?
	I don't know.
	She doesn't know.
	But I mean, you weren't even able to definitively say if you would save the entire population of males in the hypothetical.
	I'm lost.
	I'm over.
	What?
	The hypothetical was okay.
	If you could stop SA, but it meant you had to just get rid of all men, would you do it?
	And you didn't give a yes or a no.
	Correct.
	I did not.
	Right.
	The fact that you don't give an immediate knee-jerk, no, I'm not going to delete 4 billion people or whatever how much it is.
	It's pretty crazy.
	Well, that also sounds like you're attacking the people that didn't choose the answer that makes more sense to you as well.
	The people who wanted to delete the 4 billion people.
	Wait, can you repeat that one more time?
	If you're getting upset.
	Are you upset?
	Is that the right word?
	Yeah, I would.
	Frustrated?
	Sure.
	I mean, I'll put it like this.
	The fact that you are essentially unwilling to save, like, give an affirmative that you would save 4 billion men, but the entailment is, well, this crime that has to, like, the fact that you won't give an affirmative on, I want to save 4 billion people.
	Yeah, that's pretty.
	So would you debate with that?
	That's pretty damning.
	That's pretty damning.
	So would you debate with a person that definitively made the decision to eliminate the 4 billion people to get rid of essay?
	Would you be attacking them like you are me?
	I would be attacking them worse, but your refusal to answer the question points to the same answer.
	No, it doesn't.
	You don't know what I would choose.
	So why don't you just save us a bunch of time and make things really simple?
	Which one do you choose?
	Or we could just move on to the next question.
	Or you could just answer the question.
	I'm so confused.
	I have answered the question.
	You just didn't like my answer.
	I have another one.
	Man or man.
	Like what?
	Man.
	She's still going to choose the bear.
	Is it?
	Man or man, bear pig from South Park.
	And also, even when I did make a decision, now we're debating about the decision I made, which was the bear.
	No, but you didn't.
	Okay, here, I'll ask you a different question.
	It's like if I answer it, or if I don't answer, you're still attacking me.
	I'm so confused.
	I'll give you a fucking preamble and make the question.
	I don't need you to give me a preamble.
	Here, in this question, there's only two options.
	There's only two options.
	So, in order to get rid, portion one, in order to get rid of essay, you can do so, but you have to delete all men from the planet.
	Or two, you keep all men, but the current reality of some women are essayed by some men, that would remain.
	Which do you pick of the two?
	I don't understand why you're repeating the question.
	That was the question originally.
	But I'm giving you only two.
	If you had to pick between one of those options.
	Does someone want to answer for me so we can move on?
	Nobody can answer for you.
	I would keep things the same.
	Okay, I'm going to make it really simple for you.
	If you had to pick one or the other, which would it be?
	You know what's interesting is none of the women are calling you out on your fucking bullshit.
	This is what I call the woman here is calling you out on your fucking ridiculous.
	She did a little bullshit.
	She did a little bit for a little bit.
	I've been trying because it makes no sense to me.
	And I said that a couple of times.
	Literally incoherent.
	It's incoherent.
	I've refined the question where the answer you have to give is one or the other.
	So pick one.
	I just wouldn't listen to you.
	Now she's formerly.
	You're trolling.
	You literally signed in a question.
	I'm not trolling at all.
	No, I'm not.
	This is really genuinely how I feel.
	And I actually feel like uncomfortable because I'm genuinely answering the questions the way that I want to answer.
	The question.
	So I'm not trolling.
	This is genuinely how I feel.
	So I'm a bit thrown off right now.
	And I don't know if you're being serious or not.
	I'll repeat it.
	So you have to pick one of the two.
	You don't have to repeat it.
	Like, are you being serious?
	Like, what's happening right now?
	You have to pick one of the two.
	Answer the question.
	I did answer it already.
	No, you didn't.
	No, you just didn't like my answer.
	Are we being?
	No, cool.
	But you said, well, I wish SA, your answer was, I wish SA just didn't exist.
	The question is, if you had to pick one of, okay.
	Do I have to fucking draw this shit?
	Here.
	You already repeat that.
	Multiple, multiple choice question.
	I thought he was going to draw a bear.
	It might even have been diagrammed.
	Okay.
	So you know how there's like, there's two options here.
	Sometimes there's four, right?
	So I'm going to hold that up.
	I don't know.
	Hold on, let me put it.
	All right, multiple choice question.
	My fucking penmanship is dog shit.
	You see how there's those four, I don't know, here.
	It's one, two, three, four.
	Okay, and then I'm going to just check mark three.
	Right?
	Check mark three.
	I can't just, in the middle, I can't just write five.
	I can't just add in five.
	That's what you're doing.
	It's a multiple choice question.
	Pick one.
	You're making me really uncomfortable.
	And as someone who's been essayed, that's why I don't feel comfortable choosing between one or two of the answers.
	So I said I didn't feel comfortable.
	I love this.
	If you could take back.
	I'm so lost.
	And I'm asking.
	How are you lost?
	Because I'm participating in your podcast and I thought I was adding great conversation, but instead you're attacking me.
	Because you refuse to answer.
	You refuse to answer a question.
	And I think you're just answering.
	I'm not.
	Well, lucky I'm not trolling.
	I'm not trolling.
	I've been completely honest about who I am in my opinion since I got here.
	Do you know what a multiple choice question is?
	I do.
	Okay, so there's two options, right?
	Uh-huh.
	You ever taken the multiple-choice test?
	Yes, I have.
	Okay, can you just write in like a different answer?
	No, you cannot.
	That's why I didn't answer it in the first place.
	Yeah, but so you now have to answer.
	You can't force someone to answer a question.
	I guess I can't.
	Yeah, I can't force it.
	What is happening?
	You could have moved on to the next one.
	But you didn't give a fucking answer, lady.
	You didn't give an answer.
	You're claiming you gave an answer, but you didn't.
	No, I didn't claim I gave an answer.
	You literally just said you gave an answer.
	No, you, okay.
	One would depopulate the entire human race.
	Did she give an answer, Jim Bob?
	No, she gave a third answer, but she did give an answer when I brought up, well, what if it was your dad?
	And you said, I would choose my dad.
	And so we were trying to get to the bottom of, okay, if your generalization about men is given by your experience, you don't generalize your own dad given your experience.
	So what's the difference?
	And you said you'd know your dad, right?
	But if we told you that statistically, it's not the case that the highest percentage of men that exist are aggressors.
	So what we're telling you is that your failure to answer is, what I'm seeing here is your failure to answer is given by your experience.
	Your instinct is say, no man, scary, bad, they could hurt me, right?
	So that's fair.
	If I give you that and I say, okay, from your experience, you're reserved about being alone with men.
	We understand that.
	But not all men.
	So your dad's not included, right?
	There's probably other people you know that are men.
	So we're trying to get to the bottom of, okay, well, what is your impulse to say man versus the bear, pick the man, is it justified?
	What we're telling you is it's not.
	It doesn't actually comport with reality.
	But you're holding on to your experience as the arbiter.
	Does that make sense?
	Because you asked me about what I would choose.
	Yeah, it got to that.
	That's why.
	Well, it got to.
	But I'd really like if we could move on because I'm starting to get uncomfortable.
	I'm uncomfortable that you won't answer the question.
	Okay, well, what?
	It got to the point where Brian was asking, okay, well, how far would you go to eliminate SA?
	And it seems a faith.
	By the way, these kind of hypotheticals come up all the time to test people's logic.
	So it's not like you particular.
	It's anybody.
	Well, it is in particular because there's other people's sitting here waiting to answer the question and have conversations with you guys.
	They did answer it.
	Yeah, but you're the only one who couldn't answer the question.
	Why is that?
	I mean, you're also not giving everyone the same questions to answer.
	You guys gave me so many hypotheticals.
	We already answered that question.
	That's why.
	And it made sense because...
	I'm glad you think you make sense.
	That's perfectly fine.
	I think I make sense too.
	So we said, of course, you think, but of course, you all think he makes sense too.
	So everyone thinks they make sense.
	A non-answer is not an answer.
	I'm not going to accept that.
	There's some logic that you have to base your answers to that logic.
	Okay, that was bad.
	And I didn't say that.
	That's all I buy shit.
	Right?
	Straight up bullshit.
	Didn't say that.
	Don't repeat things.
	Don't say things I didn't say.
	No, I didn't say all men are bad.
	You said exactly that.
	You said.
	No, I didn't.
	I will eliminate all men.
	I didn't say that.
	I said that.
	What are you?
	Are you confused?
	Here, just stop.
	That's exactly what's happening.
	Just stop.
	Just stop.
	Let me take care of this.
	A non-answer is not an answer.
	I gave you an A or a B question.
	Okay?
	I gave you, if you had to pick between two things and you saying, I don't like this component of the question, you pick A or you pick B.
	you had to if you had to pick one which is it if you had to pick one like on a mass scale if you think about it as like a mass scale i don't need you guys to tell me I understand.
	Guys, guys, guys, just allow silence until she answers.
	What?
	Don't just answer the question.
	That's really weird.
	Just like.
	Yeah, what is happening right now?
	Like, I thought that.
	Yeah, you can keep or you could just answer the question.
	You're being extremely disrespectful.
	You're being disrespectful.
	I'm not being disrespectful.
	I've been contributing to all of the conversations.
	I asked you a question.
	I've been nice to everyone.
	No, you haven't.
	Yes, I have.
	You're fucking late.
	You're super rude.
	If we want to talk about it.
	I was super rude.
	I apologize for being late.
	I drove from LA to be here.
	You apologize to me.
	So, anyways.
	I did.
	When I walked in, I said, I'm so sorry that I was late.
	Do you want to answer the question?
	I, and don't just say shit on the podcast for the sake of the podcast.
	I wasn't rude to you.
	I apologize to both you and yeah, cool.
	Do you want to answer the question?
	I feel uncomfortable.
	What is this called obfuscation or whatever?
	Is this rage quit?
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Think that's a rage quit there?
	Well, uh, hey, you know.
	Yeah, you gotta, nah, you gotta leave.
	You just got to leave.
	You just got to leave.
	I'm going to leave.
	Yeah, but you're.
	Nah, you got to leave the studio.
	You just got to leave.
	Hold on.
	What's she asking?
	Mary, what is she asking?
	No, just say it.
	Just say it.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you just got to leave.
	Nah.
	Adios!
	Yep.
	Go for it.
	Well, rage quit, I guess.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Sweet.
	Okay, here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to have you take that seat, okay?
	Got you.
	And then just stay there.
	That's fine.
	All right.
	Okay, guys, hold up.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, my goodness.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand what's lost.
	I don't understand what's lost by answering the question.
	Even as a wrong answer, like, I don't understand what the hill to die on was.
	I guess, like, let's assume she did have an answer to the question.
	It was either she would not get rid of all men, and it's just the curse, so it would just be the current status quo, or she has to eliminate all the men.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't understand.
	Does it, does that, her, her refusal to answer it, does that mean that she would kill all men to prevent this particular crime from happening?
	Is that eugenics or what is that?
	What is that?
	Yeah, basically, yeah.
	I mean, not, it's like, it's just like a utilitarian approach.
	And then, and by extension, wouldn't this be the end of the species?
	Because I think she's just scared of sounding like she supports SA.
	But we already granted to her.
	Yeah, it doesn't mean that at all.
	I think she just didn't want to change her answer no matter what.
	She just predetermined how she wants to answer it, and she did, and she just didn't want to change that for the sake of even argument.
	And it's, to me, made no sense.
	Yes.
	Well, just being a stubborn.
	Now we can, I mean, it's good that she left because now we can actually get back to the show and get through some of the other stuff.
	Okay, we have wait, she's sending in.
	Is she wait, hold on.
	Oh, no.
	I've been essayed twice.
	No, this isn't her.
	And I can tell you I'd keep men around, could have answered it directly.
	Ridiculous, dude.
	Yeah, totally.
	Well put, Aaliyah.
	Okay, we have some messages coming through, guys.
	Give me just a moment.
	We have Ben here.
	I apologize to chair one.
	The tarred Muslim who doesn't understand the hypothetical is Becky da da duh.
	Ell's in the chat.
	D's Nates, no woman has trashy tattoos like that and still has her V card.
	I think this is directed to you, Tiffany.
	Born again doesn't count.
	LOL, she claims to want two kids, but will remind her children every day of their undesirable nose with her surgery.
	What?
	Not top 1%, just average, mildly attractive Asian woman?
	Why did you put a star there?
	Do you want to respond, Tiffany?
	I'm not born again.
	My tattoos aren't that trashy compared to other tattoos some women get.
	And then...
	At least he said you're mildly attractive.
	That was like a bonus at the end.
	Yeah, that's a compliment.
	Yes.
	It's a big deal for these chats.
	I tried hard to say that.
	Okay, we have thank you, D's Nates, for your soup chat.
	And then we have Libertariate Prime.
	I'm so nervous that chair two will sneeze and chair three will have to stick in her hair.
	What?
	Brixon is a brave man.
	The true black and white cookie of whatever.
	Would have rather made it via Streamlabs, but apparently the Jannies blocked me from it in addition to the Discord.
	Not sure.
	Libertariat, I don't think you're blocked on Streamlabs, but if you send me a DM, I can try to resolve.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you sent in some troll shit or some TOS shit, possibly.
	I don't know on Streamlabs, but sometimes some people get banned or whatever.
	Okay, here.
	We did the gender swap, right?
	I'm pretty sure.
	Okay.
	Bro.
	That was crazy.
	I don't know.
	I'm really, I'm shocked that her first marriage didn't work out.
	I don't know why that would have happened.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, one sec, guys.
	Here, we're going to get back to some of the pre-show notes.
	One sec.
	Okay, we did Sammy.
	Did uh uh oh, I didn't do the Muslim girl's notes, but what's her name Sarah?
	She's legally married to someone who won't divorce her.
	Okay, I don't know, there's nothing else there.
	Uh here, going to Naz Nazanin, did I say that right?
	Uh oh, apparently we've had you scheduled on the show before, but then you said you're Iranian and a war just broke between my country and Israel.
	I was really looking forward to coming on the show, but I need to be able to focus and feel better.
	It was remember what happened, the is there a war?
	No, it was.
	Uh, there was a, an attack.
	It was an attack.
	It was just we.
	We were just sitting and waiting for it to become a war, because it was just um, the first time ever that Iran basically threw those missiles like I think it was hundreds of missiles, so Israel, nothing happened, thank god.
	But that just was the first time that that happened and I was just like I can't focus on anything else.
	It's just way too big, because my parents live in Iran everybody, everybody lives in Iran and I and I couldn't just sit there and talk about dating when that was happening in my crown.
	Yeah okay uh, Christopher Murphy with the UH 200 soup chat.
	Thank you so much, Christopher Fucking.
	Finally, thank god, chair three is out.
	Um, I i've never encountered that man.
	I don't know.
	Usually you're like, if you, it simply goes like this, uh, but if you had to pick one, which would you pick?
	And then they just answer it like it.
	It didn't have to be that complicated.
	But um yeah, I don't know, it's weird.
	It's weird.
	I don't know how she made it this far.
	I think she wanted to make decisions, I think she wanted to kill men.
	That's what she wanted to do.
	That's why I said you're coming from anger, you're coming from fear.
	That's the resentment toward all men like for you to immediately think okay, that man should be a bat man, so bear bear, it is.
	That says a lot about how you think about men.
	And she's like no, that's my experience.
	And I was like yeah, that's in your, in your head.
	This is how you see men, yep.
	Yet at the same time, you're okay with um, some sort of stuff that you put out there which would somehow bring the make, it make the make, the chance of being subjected to those problems higher.
	You know what Jimbob tell me if this is a good comparison, it would be like if we were, someone asked us well, if we could get rid of all women to stop uh the mur abortions, the murder, I mean, maybe she wouldn't view it that way.
	But if like, by our worldview, it's like okay if, if abortion is murder, you're murdering an unborn baby, an unborn child yeah, we would both be like, oh no yeah no, we're not.
	That's ridiculous.
	Even something more subtle, like um eliminate marriage because uh, there's some sort of situation where women run uh, you know, they run free with all the money after the divorce or something, something horrific, like that's in favor of them.
	Anything that that makes this like sweeping um remedy.
	That's that brutal.
	I mean, there was it.
	It was not a hard question to answer.
	Even the the other gals answered it quite quickly.
	No, I would never eliminate everybody, would you?
	I would?
	Yeah oh, you would.
	You would eliminate everybody.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	I think he definitely insinuates the worst.
	You don't answer, Wait, so you would eliminate everybody to stop anything?
	to stop like it like you guys said sa would you stop um well i mean that's sa What about like theft?
	Theft?
	Probably not.
	I mean, I don't give a fuck about that, right?
	But SA, stuff that actually matters, like, yeah.
	So you would get rid of you'd delete 4 billion men?
	I would, if I had the opportunity to just delete every person off this earth, I would.
	Oh, okay.
	FBI open up.
	Who laughs after saying that?
	That's a clip.
	Wait, so that's like, that's like a version of her thing.
	You just have it about humanity.
	She just had it about men.
	I don't think she feels that way about men.
	That's why she was having a hard time answering it.
	But why do you feel that way about humanity, though?
	For me personally, I just feel like I've seen the worst in majority of people.
	Have you seen the best?
	No, not really, no.
	Wait, you've not seen good in people?
	No, not really, no.
	People don't show me their good side for the most part.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Do you see that good in yourself?
	I mean, yeah, but at this point, aren't you like the majority of people?
	Aren't you a tree essayer?
	I mean, have you considered kissing my hand and then putting it against me?
	No consent.
	I mean, the tree didn't give you consent.
	Hey, you don't know that.
	You don't know that.
	Having tried to do it.
	I mean, if it's like, if it's, if it's growing towards me, it must be right.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	Other things can grow towards you.
	Yeah.
	And that can be involuntary.
	So I don't know if that's a good system for you.
	But for like plants and stuff, it's a whole different thing.
	It's a whole different system.
	Wait.
	Can we get a TTS from like maybe redwoods or cedar tree?
	Cedar.
	What's like Canadian hemlock or some bullshit?
	I think that's a type of wood or a tree or something.
	Can we get maybe, can you tell us if you consented to her kissing the we got all sending chats.
	We're going to get all different types of trees.
	Can we get some trees?
	Can we get some stuff that's so cute, like the little roots and stuff?
	All groot?
	Dude, yeah, that would be so cute.
	Do it, please.
	What's your preferred terrain in Minecraft?
	What's your preferred terrain in Minecraft in Minecraft?
	You messed up by thinking I play Minecraft.
	Maybe like a maple tree.
	A maple tree.
	Chestnut.
	Chestnut tree.
	Lately, I've been like into like junipers and probably walnuts.
	I love that for you.
	Yeah.
	Very niche.
	Slay queen.
	But I mean, for the most part, I'm into mushrooms right now.
	I think they're beautiful.
	That's beautiful.
	Yeah.
	I love that for you.
	Okay.
	Let's see here, notes.
	We have Val.
	Tell us your catfish story.
	Oh, my God.
	You can just read it out loud because I wrote it really well.
	Okay, fine.
	You said that you were catfished in 2010.
	Your older sister, her boyfriend, and you agreed to meet the man of the hour at a movie theater.
	You were 16 at the time, and he had just turned 18.
	He was a solid 300 pounds at least.
	All blubber.
	You were honestly impressed that he was able to crop all of it out on Facebook.
	You went on the date, but you were too naive to realize that you had absolutely no reason to feel bad for him.
	Due to your own apparent predilection for masochism, you proceeded to invite him back to your house.
	You ended up in the backyard where eventually he broke your mother's lawn chair in front of all your cherished loved ones.
	Apparently humiliating you with his optical falsehoods wasn't enough, which you frankly still find to be quite unfair.
	Moral of the story, sympathy is hell's favorite pavement material.
	Yeah, and then I said all blubber baby, not just all blubber.
	Oh, all blubber, excuse me.
	All blubber baby.
	All right.
	That was cool.
	That was amazing.
	And let's see here.
	Oh, you said how to leave an abusive relationship.
	You had some advice?
	Oh, yeah.
	So I basically dated a guy that was a mean girl.
	And it was like, he would just say backhanded things to me all the time.
	And obviously that could easily wear you down.
	I feel like a lot of guys do that.
	So what I did was anytime he gave me something, if I found any truth in it, I would take it and I would change it.
	And by the time I was ready to leave that relationship, I was fully healed, way better person than I already was.
	Yeah.
	I feel like that's, it just helped me a lot.
	And I feel like that's just good advice.
	If people are in like, I don't know, like mentally or emotionally abusive relationships.
	I feel like that's the one solution that worked for me.
	What were you doing to him that was abusive?
	I wasn't doing anything.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry.
	I thought you said you were in an abusive relationship, so I thought you might have been the abuser.
	No.
	Did you hit him?
	No, no.
	That was a reasonable question.
	No, he was just a mean girl.
	Oh, he was a mean girl.
	Yeah.
	What was he doing?
	You know who a mean girl's at?
	He would just say, like, I'll give you an example.
	We're in the grocery store and it's crowded.
	So I make sure to stay out of everybody's way.
	And then we'll get in the car and we'll be like, you're in everybody's way.
	Like, just make you, just make me feel incompetent over time.
	It got to the point where a few years into our relationship, I felt like if I didn't have him, I'd be homeless on the street.
	Wait, but hold on.
	Sorry.
	I feel like it's a good idea.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	So did I, wasn't my question, what did he do that was abusive?
	And your first example was you went to a grocery store and you yourself were like, oh, I don't want to be in people's way.
	And then he said, whoa, you really got in people's way?
	That's the first example you give when I ask how you were people.
	No, what I said was this is an example of like what he would do.
	Hold on, let's explore that thing you just described, though.
	Is that abusive?
	So him saying you got in people's life.
	It's kind of condescending.
	Yeah, I don't think condescension is abusive.
	If we were in the store and you were making sure to stay out of everybody's way and then we left and I was like, you were literally in everybody's way the whole time.
	Was he saying it as a joke?
	No.
	So he was getting on your case.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's kind of weird, but I don't think that's abusive.
	It's like death by a thousand cuts.
	It gets old.
	And he's one off.
	Yeah, I don't think being annoying or a jerk is abusive.
	I feel like over time, if it's intentional, I feel like it can definitely be mentally abusive.
	So wait, he was like, whoa, you really got him.
	Well, did you get in somebody's way?
	No, I literally.
	That's what she's saying.
	She didn't.
	You know, that's just an example, but it's.
	I mean, you kind of seem like someone who gets in people's way, though.
	Yeah.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm totally kidding.
	Yeah, I'm pretty burly.
	I'm a fucking abuser.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm pretty burly.
	Wait, did you like these little pecks?
	It sounds like there's a bunch of pecks at you, right?
	Yeah, I just.
	So wait, did you say things back?
	I actually didn't for a long time.
	I was just like.
	So he doesn't even know that it's bothering you.
	Well, at first, because I just thought something was wrong with me.
	There was another time where...
	Well, that's not...
	Wait, he might have been a jerk, but that's you thinking when women think something's wrong with them, that's actually not a good excuse to make it about the person.
	Because let's say it's not a dude.
	Let's say it's your friend.
	If you don't say it, if you don't say, hey, don't fucking do that.
	Yeah.
	You know, like, what if they just don't know?
	Like, no, I agree with that.
	So what's like the, you know, the threshold?
	Because you're saying it's abusive, but it sounds like you're abusing yourself by not just saying something.
	Yeah, and then it just adds to it because it's just like you're stupid, basically.
	And I remember one time after work, I cleaned the entire kitchen.
	I redecorated it, whatever.
	And then he came home.
	I was so excited.
	And in the back of my mind, I was like, I know he's going to fucking ruin this.
	And he came home and I was like, hey, look, I have a surprise.
	And he was like, what?
	You cleaned the kitchen?
	You know what I mean?
	Hold on.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	He was like, isn't that obvious?
	Yeah, and I spent hours.
	Were you working at the time?
	Yeah.
	I worked full-time.
	You guys shared.
	You guys were living together, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Were you guys splitting the bills 50-50?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so what did he say exactly?
	He said.
	He just didn't give a shit.
	Wait, hold on.
	He didn't.
	So what?
	Can you be more precise in what happened?
	Yeah.
	So say you.
	No, tell us what happened.
	Like what actually happened?
	Sure.
	So after that.
	You cleaned the whole apartment.
	Well, no, I cleaned.
	So our kitchen, like, I redecorated it.
	I cleaned every little fucking like crevice of the kitchen.
	And I was really excited about it.
	And I knew in the back of my mind when he came home and I told him, like, if I got excited, it would just be like stupid.
	So yeah, like when he came home and I was super excited, he just was like, who gives a shit, basically?
	No, no, no, not basically.
	What did he do?
	He said he came in and he was like, I was like super excited.
	And I told him, I have a surprise for you.
	And he's just like, what?
	You clean the kitchen.
	And then I was like, at least it just sucks because if somebody does something for you, you can at least entertain the thought of like appreciation.
	I mean, I understand.
	But.
	I mean, I'm not entitled to anything.
	It's not abuse, but I mean, like, over time.
	If it's deliberate over time, that's all you want to stay with him, though.
	Wait, but I agree.
	I agree.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Is it possible that you didn't clean that well?
	Possible.
	I tried my best.
	At least I tried my best, though.
	You know, that deserves something.
	She laughed.
	She's a comedian.
	That deserves something.
	See how lighthearted she is?
	Look at her eyes.
	Yeah.
	Very jovial.
	Hold on.
	That was a good idea.
	so it's like it's kind of wait did you ever get a haircut and he came home and he didn't say anything He didn't notice that you got a haircut.
	Is that abusive?
	No, he's constantly up my ass too.
	So it's like he was constantly on my ass.
	I couldn't really do anything.
	That's a whole different thing.
	Okay, here's the thing.
	I feel like when you lead with my ex-boyfriend was abusive, that's a little dramatic.
	No, that's what you literally said.
	I know.
	No, wait, hold on.
	I'm not accusing you of being dramatic.
	I'm saying what I said was dramatic.
	Yeah.
	That's what we're trying to focus on.
	Like, what?
	Do you realize, are you being super hyperbolic then?
	Wait, how do you be?
	How can you be hyperbolic, though, about I feel like abuse was a dramatic term for me to use, for me to choose.
	I'm not saying that what you're saying is.
	No, but in the pre, like, this wasn't just some sort of like accidental slip of the tongue.
	In your pre-show notes, you're like, how to get out of a, how to leave an abusive relationship.
	You have advice.
	And you're now talking about this guy who said that you got in people's way at the grocery store, whether you did or not, whatever.
	Let's say you didn't, even.
	And then you cleaned the kitchen and he didn't acknowledge.
	I'm sorry, that's not abuse.
	That's not abuse.
	Maybe he's a jerk.
	Build up and make you feel incompetent and stupid.
	So it is kind of abusive to her.
	On a consistent basis.
	It is.
	On a consistent basis.
	The way she would take it is part of the case.
	So why do why do we have to coggle because at the end of the day?
	I mean the fact that he probably had no idea that his words are so affecting her in a very negative way.
	Wait, why isn't oh look look if she doesn't say something is very clear with something like, you know, stop doing that.
	That doesn't work for me.
	Like a man could just as well using your standard say that's abuse and be like it's abuse for you to let this all build up against me and not say anything.
	I mean, well, I wouldn't say that.
	I'm not going to.
	Having said something, I become friendly about that.
	So eventually he was like, you know, obviously he was like, I can't read your mind.
	So I would start saying things like that.
	And then, you know, things wouldn't change with him, but whatever.
	Like, I, that's why I wanted to bring it up because a lot of people deal with that shit.
	It doesn't have to be your significant elder.
	It could be somebody around you that's just constantly knocking you down.
	But if you find the truth in what they're saying, why am I insulted by that?
	You can change it.
	And then you can become a better person.
	And by the time you're a better person, you don't even want to be around that person anymore.
	Does that make sense?
	Well, now you're just going to know if, you know, earlier on with people.
	Yeah.
	But again, I agree with Brian.
	I wouldn't say that's abuse.
	I think that's, you know, I had to shift it all on you, but I think the toleration of things is actually self-like, you know, I don't wouldn't call it abuse, but if you're going to call that thing abuse, I would just say that's self, that's like self-inflicted abuse.
	And I feel like people take advantage of that.
	Not that it's, it's still your problem at the end of the day.
	And that's what I meant by everything I just said.
	Yeah.
	Is you do have the power.
	Like if somebody's doing that, you can change it.
	It is basically.
	And just how to do it.
	Wait, what?
	It is abuse.
	This is literally like She says hey I don't like this Please stop.
	You keep doing it and you keep harassing her with those same behaviors.
	That is abuse.
	Well, there's a form of verbal abuse.
	Just to be clear.
	Hold on.
	So just to be clear, one of the examples she gave when I asked her to give me a better example of the supposed and alleged abuse was, I cleaned the kitchen, my boyfriend came home, and he did not to a satisfactory degree acknowledge.
	They do that on purpose.
	They do that on purpose to make you late.
	Let's go back down to reality.
	A boyfriend not acknowledging that you cleaned the shared living space, that's not abuse.
	Maybe, I'll accept it's inconsiderate, maybe.
	I actually don't think it's inconsistent.
	But she's saying that it's also on so many other levels that this is happening.
	Yeah, like it's like it's not just like her.
	Yeah, but your standard for abuse is super low.
	Like you said, doing something and someone asked you to stop and you keep doing it.
	I crop dust my wife over and over again.
	She says stop.
	What does that mean?
	She told me to stop.
	She's just blame crop dust and I trap her.
	Okay.
	So you don't have any responsibility.
	No, no, no.
	I will not stop.
	Okay, well.
	Is that abuse?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, because you know she won't leave.
	Like, I have crop dust in all the ways.
	That's why I'm not crop dusting her all the time.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	Like, I'm going to come on here and be honest with you.
	I like to say a lot of like weird slurs or whatever sometimes.
	You know what I mean?
	And I use that against my men.
	And they tell me all the time, like, hey, stop.
	Like, this makes me, you know, uncomfortable, blah, blah, blah.
	This, that, and the other.
	And it's like something that I just do.
	And I understand that it's abusive in their head because they don't like it.
	They don't.
	But they keep doing it.
	They just need to stop.
	But you keep doing it, right?
	Sometimes it just slips out.
	But if I feel like it's too disrespectful, like the other day I called one of my dudes with like the B word.
	And he was like, whoa.
	And I was like, yeah, no, dude, I'm sorry.
	Can I do that?
	But even to this point, it is abusive.
	It is abusive.
	It's degrading.
	Wait, Piach?
	Wait, oh, that's probably okay.
	We try to avoid it, but it's probably fine.
	No, no, no, no, you're not.
	Wait, what were you saying?
	Yeah, I mean, I think there's a form of it that it could be verbal, but I wouldn't go to the extent and say it's just straight abuse.
	Kind of like you said, it makes your standard low.
	Because what does that make other people's situations?
	Like, I used to get like beat the shit out of dude.
	Yeah.
	That's abuse.
	You know, like someone could be mean to you and be inconsiderate, not think about how you're feeling, whatever.
	But that's kind of just mean.
	You know, I wouldn't say it's abuse.
	Like, verbal abuse is one thing.
	But are you saying you ain't seen shit?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's what that means.
	This reminds me of.
	Harassment is still abusive, regardless.
	It's just annoying.
	Yeah, you know, it's still abusive.
	I think being, I think being annoying or being inconsiderate, I don't think these are good things.
	But I don't think that's a good thing.
	I don't think it's popping up outside the door every day.
	You're not saying that that's abusive.
	That's scary, right?
	No, harassment is abusive.
	No, that's harassment.
	That's illegal.
	It doesn't matter if it's still.
	No, no, no.
	You don't go to court.
	It's still a legal.
	Some people don't give a fuck about that.
	When did we even forward the position that it's acceptable to stalk somebody?
	We never said that.
	You guys are sitting here saying harassment.
	No, does the judge say, and we order you, you know, this fine or this jail time for abuse or harassment?
	It's the same thing.
	What are you talking about?
	No, no, no.
	No, there's certain activities and you call them harassment, right?
	It's not, you don't let there, it's, it's like harassment still is another way of saying abusive actions.
	Well, you're, you're violating something.
	No, you're violating something.
	Abuse.
	No, no, no.
	You could do legal abuse, right, from your perspective.
	Legal.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So the thing that makes harassment a thing is that it's illegal.
	It's a legal problem.
	Okay.
	But you can harass people online and like you're going to have to find this threshold of when something's abusive or not.
	And she's telling you, you're really diminishing what abuse actually is for other people.
	I see what you're saying.
	Really?
	I'm sorry if it comes off.
	No, I see it because I'm not.
	I'm just trying to make it clear.
	Abuse is assault.
	Abuse is putting hands on someone.
	Abuse is hurting someone else physically.
	Abuse is not annoying somebody and pissing them off.
	It's hitting somebody, dude.
	It's hurting them.
	It's trapping them.
	Like, you know, there's so much shit.
	It's crazy.
	You know, you're calling being outside somebody's room a fucking abuse is crazy.
	Really?
	Yeah, no.
	A lot of times whenever people are that crazy to actually continue to give you a reaction or whatever or try to force you to have a reaction or whatever, they're because they're trying to hurt you in some sort of way, whether it's physical, mental, whatever.
	Like that's part of like cults and stuff like that.
	They're literally doing abusive shit to you to get you into the cult.
	So like make it make sense to me.
	Wait, hold on.
	So okay.
	People showing up at your place of residence uninvited.
	You ask them to leave.
	They keep coming back.
	That's abusive.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's that's harassment.
	That's harassment.
	It's a scale, right?
	It's a spectrum, right?
	Yeah, but we're not.
	No, it's on still the thing of a we agree with you.
	We agree with you.
	But the example she provided where the boyfriend didn't acknowledge her cleaning and maybe was just like, that's not abuse or shit communication.
	I just don't think that she wants to devolve into like actually stuff that happens to her if it triggers her.
	But something like that, like I can understand.
	Her boyfriend doesn't abuse her, but the relationship long term was abusive to her.
	Because if she asked you to change, I'm not granting My take is that Tiffany sarsh.
	The only way that comes to my mind is when she started thinking that he's doing this on purpose to hurt her feeling to be able to have control over her.
	That is the only way that you can say that's abusive because she got to the point that she felt like, okay, so you're doing it on purpose to hurt my feeling, knowing this kind of communication.
	Yeah, but this is where women never take responsibility.
	If they're the ones who know what's happening and they're describing it as XYZ, in this case, abuse, they have some weird excuse to stay in the situation, right?
	Every time she left, she said that she left, but that's how she got to the conclusion that he was trying to abuse her.
	Was she abusing me?
	I felt abused by this woman.
	Who refused to just like answer my question?
	Is that abuse?
	Yo, chat, am I an abusive person?
	Wait, she says you're abusive.
	I heard that.
	She says that I was abusive towards her.
	She already told you, like, she like, even if you answer the question, answer the question.
	Let's say, like, she said, even if it was a question on a fucking quiz.
	Let me ask you a question.
	She wouldn't answer it.
	I love this.
	So she already answered it.
	Sure, I love this.
	Do you know what stonewalling is?
	Is stonewalling abusive to do in a relationship?
	Wait, I don't know what that means.
	You don't know what stonewall is?
	Yeah, no, please explain.
	Here, I'll Google it for you just so I give you the perfect definition.
	You got to remember, I have never been in a relationship.
	So is that just like someone else?
	So the silent treatment, a destructive communication pattern where someone emotionally disengages and becomes unresponsive, shutting down a conversation or interaction can be a form of emotional abuse.
	I was being abused by that woman because she was stonewalling.
	She already gave her not answering.
	I think it's a perfectly when you've been invited to come on a conversational discussion show.
	Hold on, hold on.
	There's an anticipation that questions are going to be asked.
	I think it was a reasonable question to ask her.
	It was a hypothetical question.
	And I was like, hey, look, answer one or the other.
	She didn't do it.
	I understand.
	I think that her problem was that it essay involved in it.
	And therefore, she didn't want to answer it whatsoever.
	She didn't want to answer.
	Wait, let me ask you.
	Oh, I wish I did this.
	I'll ask, this is what I should have asked her.
	I'll ask you.
	If you could get rid, would you get rid of all men?
	Hold on, wait, wait, hold on.
	I'm changing it.
	Okay.
	I'm going to change it.
	Okay.
	So would you get rid of all men to prevent one essay?
	Well, if it's just one, no.
	Okay, so then, like, I guess, where's the threshold?
	Like, well, like I said, from my experience, most people have taken advantage of me.
	So for me, from my experience, I'm like.
	So what's the number, though?
	If it's not one, he's asking, what is the number?
	It's five.
	I already said 80%.
	Wait, no, that's not what we're talking about.
	How about, let's say, to prevent a thousand different women being essayed once, would you get rid of all men?
	A thousand women is a lot.
	I'm going to be honest, Orthodox.
	That's crazy.
	I wish I asked that to her.
	That would have been that would have been interesting.
	Yeah, the threshold is really the question in the end.
	It's like, what's the threshold?
	What do you think, Jim Bob?
	Do you think for the question of to prevent one essay, would you get rid of all men?
	Do you think she would have granted, like, she would have been like, well, no, not for one.
	Or do you think she would have still been like a moment?
	She would have said not answering.
	Yeah.
	I can't answer that.
	She would just avoid the.
	Good times.
	Okay, we have a couple chats here that I'm going to pull up.
	That Birch Birchwood.
	Keep this one away from my wood.
	Are you a fan of...
	What do you think about, like, driftwood?
	You know, the beach that washes up on the beach?
	That's cool to look at, yeah.
	I like nature just a lot.
	Do you have any?
	I'm not gonna.
	Never mind.
	I'm not gonna ask you.
	No, ask it, please.
	Christopher Murphy says, I have a friend named Sugar Maple.
	He said he was trunk deep in you, alien.
	He filled you up with syrup, and you never called him back for round two.
	He feels abused.
	Sounds like me, yeah.
	Wow, that's really abusive of you, Alien.
	That's crazy.
	Okay, well.
	What is going on back there?
	How many people do we have out of their seats?
	We got Nancy.
	Oh wait, yo, Naz, do you want to call, uh, you got a daughter, right?
	Do you want to call her to come be on the show?
	I am trying.
	Yeah, get her.
	Let's have her join the show.
	We got an empty chair.
	Get her to join the panel.
	get her to join the panel um uh boys this could be the guys chat This could be the first ever mother-daughter appearance on the whatever podcast.
	If she got, chat, help convince Naz to bring her daughter on.
	Mother-daughter, good times.
	It was the best of times.
	It was the worst of times.
	It was the winter of my discontent.
	Okay, I don't know.
	That's like two different fucking things combined.
	Tiffany, do you have any statements, thoughts, feelings, opinions?
	Didn't think so.
	Okay, anyways, next slide.
	Wait, what?
	About what?
	I don't know.
	Just anything.
	What do you think about Trump's immigration policy?
	Horrible.
	You want more people deported.
	Yeah, Obama deported more people in him.
	I see.
	Okay, you think Trump's slacking on the immigration?
	Definitely.
	Okay, that's cool.
	All right, we're going to – I think that's pretty much it for my pre-show notes, but we have the questionnaire.
	So, Sammy, you circled – So, the statement.
	By the way, chat, I changed it.
	There's no more double negatives.
	It's just agree now, not disagree.
	Men are not physically stronger than women.
	You agree?
	I agree because I think it can vary.
	You know, I feel like it really does depend.
	Now, in my personal experience, that one guy used to beat me up.
	Like I said, I got some of my hit in.
	So sometimes I won.
	Sometimes I didn't.
	So sometimes it just varies, you know?
	And also, it's not also just about like weight and stuff.
	You gotta be careful with short changes.
	It's always like, oh, my personal experience.
	Me, me, me.
	The fuck does that guy?
	What does that mean?
	Yo, Tiffany.
	Yeah, why are you talking shit on my girlfriend?
	When he asks me a question, you don't want me to talk about from my point of view?
	You want me to talk about from your point of view?
	Or you want to answer questions?
	You're answering the question from your point of view.
	Because that, because he asked me, not somebody else.
	Dir.
	Dir.
	Dirt, dirt, dirt, dirt.
	He's doing a little dirt about it.
	Sammy, you're going to let her talk to you like that.
	She's been disrespecting you.
	She's been pulling disrespect on your name on that.
	It's okay because she's the epiphany of a pick-me.
	Like, I'm not worried about it.
	So.
	Are you a pick me?
	Tiffany, are you going to let her?
	She just called you a pick me.
	Are you going to let her talk to you like that, Tiffany?
	What are you instigating?
	I'm just clarifying.
	That's what he gets paid for.
	You need a cat, SFX.
	It's like, right.
	Well, I have, uh...
	So you're saying that...
	We will both mash you!
	What?
	Men are stronger generally, but women sometimes can get in a good hit.
	Right, right.
	So that's what I think.
	But generally speaking.
	Men are going to be stronger.
	Men are.
	Okay, all right.
	You don't really have a disagreement there.
	Oh, wait, we have this girl.
	Oh, man, this would have been good.
	Fuck.
	Should I tell her to come back?
	Wait, I'm telling this.
	Come back, boo.
	She's definitely gone.
	If you ask her to come back, she's going to be like, it depends.
	I don't know.
	It's like halfway to LA now.
	Come back.
	Of course.
	Yo, if you're watching this, Sarah, come back because we got to.
	Oh, man.
	This is some good stuff, Sarah.
	Come back.
	Put her cook.
	Come back.
	I don't know, Felicity.
	I mean.
	I don't think so.
	I think she might come back.
	I don't think she seemed pretty upset.
	She's very disappointed.
	Listen, we moved on from the get bear conversation.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah, but why did we move on?
	We moved on because she walked out.
	That is true.
	I was planning to move on very soon, though.
	I just had to ask her one more.
	I just had to ask her one more time to answer the question.
	She just seemed deliberate at a certain point.
	It's like, how do you just like, what do you know?
	And I'm not trying to be mean, and I was going to say that with all due respect, what do you know?
	Yeah.
	True.
	Because you don't know a lot.
	There's like actually almost nothing here.
	I don't even.
	Y'all just agree with.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm looking over the.
	Okay, Tiffany.
	You said you would not date a police officer.
	You would not date a soldier.
	Why would you not date a police officer, Tiffany?
	They're just not my type.
	I like skinny guys.
	If they're skinny.
	They could be skinny.
	They're usually not skinny police officers.
	You like skinny?
	Yeah, I don't like muscle.
	So you like femme boys?
	No, I just like model skinny, like stick skinny guys.
	Need some crystals.
	Like they're dying a little bit.
	That's a good question, Felicity.
	She likes the dying.
	Wait, leave it on the table.
	Leave the power.
	The crystals must be left on the table.
	We must protect the energy.
	The sacred energy.
	The sacred energy.
	Okay, Tiffany, what about soldier?
	You won't date a soldier?
	No, because they're probably really muscular.
	Muscular.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, then I have nothing for you then.
	That's not even.
	Okay, Naz, you said dating is harder for women.
	Why is that?
	I guess we have to.
	I guess I'm talking about my experience.
	Let's say.
	Wait, actually, I agree with that too.
	Yeah.
	Because there's just, I believe it's getting harder and harder because there's so many different layers that just keep adding to the equation that you have to go through and sift through.
	At least this is how it is for me.
	And I think commitment is just not a thing for men, especially in LA.
	It's just, I guess it used to be easier to even talk about commitment or being in a relationship.
	But now it's mostly people want to just have fun and, you know, have a quick encounter and just leave and try other people.
	It's just becoming a trial competition.
	But I think for men.
	Are these first-hand experiences from you or this is what you've heard?
	Myself and what I hear.
	So you said you've been like, you haven't been in a relationship for wait.
	Yeah, I have.
	And you've been celibate.
	Yeah.
	Oh, so the guys try to sleep with you, but you don't want that.
	It's mostly because of that.
	It's just, it doesn't sleep in with people.
	It doesn't come first for me.
	It's something that comes later when you start getting to know people.
	But that is pushed really at the beginning.
	And I don't think that's something that I would want to be comfortable with.
	Well, men have always attempted.
	I mean, that's what they're driving them.
	And it's actually been the women who's basically putting up the segments of time, you know, like putting up the barriers and you have to win them over courtship and all of that.
	Yeah.
	That's why I always bring up women's liberation.
	I think that also didn't help is that suddenly women were like, oh, wait, I can sleep with a lot of people and that's my power.
	Well, now you get the worst of both worlds, right?
	Because now the men expect to sleep with the women because it's empowering for the women to be able to sleep with men and there's no ties.
	There's no nothing, no commitment.
	You don't even have to fear getting pregnant because you can just get rid of it.
	This kind of scenario, the liberation of both sides is really producing really shitty fruits in my opinion.
	And it's worse for you at this point, not just age, but you have a kid, so that adds another aspect, right?
	So I remember back in 2012 on Instagram, my peers, like my female peers, would post pictures in lingerie and they'd be like, don't objectify me.
	Yeah, that's funny.
	Yeah, that was like a whole phenomenon.
	Very strange.
	Very strange.
	Indeed.
	Very strange indeed.
	Okay, so do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?
	Not exactly.
	I just think it's a little weird.
	How so?
	Because why would it matter?
	You know?
	Depending on, again, like, depending on the situation, you know, I don't know.
	But some guys will have like a super high body count and then they go after a girl who's like virgin and then I think that's well that that's another thing but we can get into that.
	I actually have a good way to reframe this question, but do you just have everybody answer?
	Do you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	No, I mean, I don't think they're insecure.
	Okay.
	Do you think it's like lame to care?
	I think it's stupid and like and I feel like the people that ask don't want to share theirs.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I think, and I think, yeah, I mean, that's about it.
	Well, how about maybe I should change it?
	Do you think it's a reasonable question to ask?
	Is it a reasonable metric by which men can choose to reject somebody?
	Yeah.
	Like, for example, the guy's like, oh, your body, he's not like talking shit.
	He's just like, oh, okay, your body count's 30.
	I don't want to date you.
	Yeah, whatever.
	But, I mean, if you're blown out, you know what I'm saying?
	But if it's just like you know, someone's blown out.
	I don't think that's how it's.
	If you ask.
	You know what I mean?
	If they're just like, yeah, whatever.
	I'm not going to go down that path.
	But like, if it's too much, then it's too much.
	I don't know, like 30.
	Do you think men are insecure for caring about body?
	I don't think it has anything to do with being insecure.
	It's their preferences and it's respectable.
	Tiffany?
	No.
	Tea dog?
	No?
	Okay.
	Here, I'm going to change the question a little bit.
	So you said yes, kind of.
	Yeah, I don't think it's insecure.
	I just think it's like an odd kind of preference to worry about, unless it's dramatic, you know?
	What if it's, I kind of want to maybe move from body count to promiscuity.
	So for example, what if it's a man's preference that the longest period of time has elapsed, like the longer the better, has elapsed since the last time she's had sex with somebody.
	So for example, I don't know if this is the case for you, but I think a lot of men would be grossed out by the following.
	The fuck?
	A woman who you're interested in had sex with a guy the night before.
	I think most men would find that gross.
	Yeah.
	Is that valid or not?
	No, I agree it's valid.
	But so how far back though, until it becomes, why do you care?
	So like a week, she fucked a guy a week ago.
	I still think that's gross.
	Yeah, I think that's.
	A month ago, not as gross, still kind of, uh.
	Yeah, I'd say it's still a little bit too, yeah.
	But it's like, so for most men, I think it's like, we want that period to be as, I mean, ideally, she's a virgin, right?
	But if most women aren't.
	So we want that period to be the longest.
	Oh, it's been three years?
	Seven years?
	Like her?
	Good for you.
	I'm proud of you.
	Especially in LA.
	My goodness.
	I know.
	Good for you.
	I know.
	There's a lot of dick slaying going on in LA.
	Insanity.
	Very insane.
	I feel like it insinuates to you that they're not in your life anymore.
	You know, like the people that you slept with a week ago.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Like the likelihood of you still being involved with somebody and you slept with them a week ago versus you have been celibate for six months, a year.
	So I think that's what body count is pointing to, though.
	Oh, and then I also had another revelation.
	There's body count, but hear me out, fellas.
	Chat.
	Chat, I want you guys to weigh in on this.
	There's body quality count.
	Maybe not count.
	I need to find a good name for this, but there's the body count qualifier?
	So, okay, here's the example I'll give.
	A girl has sex with 10 good dudes, 10 men, 10 good dudes.
	And those dudes, let's say they're just virgins.
	Somehow she fucked like 10 virgin guys.
	Or she fucked one scumbag fucking.
	You know?
	Like, she fucked one dude that's just a fucking dirt bag and you know he's a fucking dirtbag and you know.
	I think that's the 10 men theory.
	I think that's what you should call it.
	I don't know.
	10 men theory.
	If they're like just disgusting, you mean like a hell's hazard?
	Like I'm trying to think, like if she had sex with, I'm trying to think of like a famous person.
	Like Flavor Flave.
	Pete Davidson.
	Yeah, Pete Davidson or like she fucked.
	Sorry, Flave.
	Like Lil Zan.
	Magic Johnson.
	Well, he's got HIV, right?
	Or he's clear now, though, right?
	I mean, if they're like the male equivalent of a slut and they're disgusting.
	But chat, do you know what I mean?
	Like, like it offsets, like, even if her body count is lower, but she fucked a dirty dude, that's like 10 bodies, right?
	She's gross.
	I mean, like the 10.
	Like, I'm not saying that, like.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, what are we talking about, though?
	Like, does he have like barnacles?
	At that point, that becomes kind of.
	It's more of a judgment of her judgment.
	And also by when the guys, like, could be, you know what I mean?
	Could be.
	I think it might be beyond that.
	It's almost like you dangerous.
	You judge.
	You're then judging her discernment.
	It's more than just the activity.
	You're judging her judgment at that point.
	100%.
	That makes sense.
	Saying, like, oh, I'm, you know, you choose me, but you chose that person.
	Am I on the same shelf as that person?
	It goes both ways, though.
	For sure.
	It goes both ways to some extent, but the question of body count is definitely different in value for the two.
	And the reason is that women are the gatekeepers of sex.
	So I hate to reduce it to this, but there is an economic aspect to women's chastity and virtue and their virginity.
	And biological.
	Yeah, because it's less put on men.
	That's just how it is because men aren't the gatekeepers.
	You ladies are the gatekeepers.
	So you actually, in a way, determine, absent being part of a culture that just says, no, we're going to by force take your bodies.
	If that wasn't the culture, right?
	You get to determine that.
	The problem is, I keep coming back to feminism, is that you've been sold this shitty deal that tells you to use the basically the main leverage tool that you have and just throwing it away and just be like, have it for free.
	Yeah.
	Have it free.
	It's liberating.
	It's awesome.
	No, terrible mistake.
	That messed up so many things in our traditional structure because the men are out there trying to seek good women, even if they had a string of sexual encounters with not so good women.
	They're still looking for the good one.
	And then the problem is if the woman in her liberation racks up 30 plus bodies, what is a good woman anymore?
	Like, it goes both ways.
	And so it's not a great situation.
	I think the best thing, the most empowering, I wish the other girl was here.
	The most empowering thing a woman could do is hold on to her virginity.
	And if she was smart, she would leverage it for a good man.
	Yep.
	Yeah, you're not wrong.
	A couple people in the chat don't like my whole handwriting.
	Well, that too, but the body count quality qualifier.
	Maybe I got to think of something better.
	But like, here, I'll give you an example.
	So I would almost rather a girl have an additional three bodies, but they're like good dudes versus she slept with like Takashi 6ix9ine.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like a resume.
	Or like you said.
	NLE Choppa.
	Yeah.
	If a girl slept with NLE.
	I don't know who that is.
	Choppa.
	Rapper.
	Some random.
	Okay.
	He's a rapper.
	He's a rapper.
	This guy fucks a bunch of chicks, right?
	Awesome.
	I'm like, I'd almost rather her have slept with more men that are good men.
	I know that sounds weird.
	But it's like the quality of the dude they're fucking with.
	Sure.
	Because then you feel like a scumbag.
	Or you just feel dirty.
	I feel dirty by extension.
	By proxy.
	By proxy.
	Wait, Brian, are you saying it's also a one-night stand with the so-called good men?
	Because I would think those people are still kind of gross.
	Like, it sounds like when you say good men, from my perspective, it's like they were in a relationship.
	They got to know each other.
	Like, unfortunately, that's the standard we're working with.
	But are you saying one night stand with the good, the good-hearted, you know, they're a bunch of Mormons.
	Like the chick is just like, well, they're all Mormon.
	You're like, yes.
	So even in that scenario, so I like, there's a bunch of ways you can paint the scenario.
	Like, okay, she's got, she's had sex with three guys, but they were all in a relationship versus like she had, she's like friends with benefits with some like rapper who does drugs and has funk fucked a bunch of chicks or whatever.
	I would say that even though in the scenario you presented, oh man, the one body, but the dude's a dirtbag still, still, I think that's kind of worse.
	Yeah.
	Well, in the back of your mind, you're thinking STDs too.
	You're like, that's why it's health hazards.
	I think that's the most important thing.
	And then that is revealing about the person because that how are you treating yourself that aren't tested?
	Like, that doesn't make any sense to me.
	I mean, people do.
	And the possibility when people sleep with people.
	But are you asking them about like, no, well, scumbags, but there's STD stuff?
	Because I do that.
	So maybe just be smarter.
	I'm sorry.
	You do what?
	You do this.
	I ask people about their STD like testings and stuff like that.
	I mean, people lie.
	Most people don't do that.
	And then casual sexuality.
	Are you asking them to show you it then?
	Because I do.
	How do you mean they know?
	Like I said, we should ask them to show you it.
	What do you mean?
	How do you know?
	Show me the proof.
	Yeah, I know, but sometimes some of these STDs come up.
	Okay, then don't fuck that person.
	Like, be smarter.
	Like, do you want STDs?
	Like, actually, use your brain.
	I'm sorry.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	That was cool.
	No, because people don't actually take that shit seriously.
	And it's dumb as hell that you're going to come on here and just say, oh, did it, this and the other.
	And it's like, no, like, actually take it seriously.
	If you're going to sit here and say that you're taking it seriously, are you asking people to show you their testing?
	Then don't talk shit about them.
	Like, that's crazy.
	If you're going to sit here and just start fucking people and not ask them, like, that's crazy.
	The problem is people lie.
	Unless, I guess, then ask them to show you.
	What's the problem with them?
	Do you have like it's like it's like if you if a man comes up to you or a boy or whatever he's like he looks like he's 19 but he's not fucking 19 he's like 17.
	Yeah okay, ask him for an id.
	Sure, std tests?
	I feel like they're not as common common sense, honestly as ids.
	So it's like it is.
	So you wouldn't someone if they don't have an std.
	Bro, just to be clear, you think, like rappers are getting like the our and that's why they end up with stds, like that's why you think that they're dirty because they're not going out and actually taking care of their actual sexual uh, bodies.
	You know what I mean?
	Like they're just going out here and like just giving it all, not giving a whether they're bringing stuff in and like giving it to other people what, what are we arguing about?
	I'm just not.
	I don't know what do we?
	Because I just feel like it's just so stupid to sit here and be like.
	I feel like it's stupid that people just sit here and say like, but what if they're not?
	Like stds and all this?
	Then ask people to show you that.
	And if you're not gonna go and get like, if you're not gonna ask, then just don't them.
	If that is a problem to you.
	Like I don't understand how you guys are sitting here and acting like you disagree with me, like go out there and have stds all you want?
	We actually?
	No, we actually do.
	We actually do.
	We actually do agree with you.
	Yeah, I don't know if we're.
	We're actually talking about the judgment that we have for a part, a partner who Brian's scenario was sleeps with the rapper who doesn't give a shit about any of it.
	You don't him like.
	That's the whole point.
	If you know a girl that him don't like, I don't understand what the problem is.
	We agree with you.
	Yes, we're talking about whether that that judgment is valid Of those people.
	Yeah, if it's a high body count, you're just in the back of your mind.
	That's what I said.
	In the back of your mind, you're going to have that thought and it's going to make you feel weird.
	Look, all I'm saying is that when it comes to the body count question, if a girl has fucked a dirty dude, a dirty dude, that's like not every body is equal.
	Yeah.
	Not every body number, body count is going to be equal.
	Oh, that's that's fair.
	So like there's another component.
	Now, I think even if they're all good dudes, but she's got a high body count, there's still going to be a judgment there.
	But what I'm saying is there's an additional qualifier on top where it's like, oh, her body count is this, and she's fucked a bunch of rappers, and she's fucked a bunch of like scumbag, dirtbag, fucking drug, whatever it is.
	She fucked, she's fucked, dealt with dirty dudes.
	That's like an additional disqualifier.
	She's gross, yeah.
	It's dirty.
	Dirty birdie.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then you have to check your own hygiene.
	You're like, am I dirty?
	You guess?
	Is this like a tight?
	Wait, question.
	Oh, well, I think that there's a lot of men out there that don't like to admit that they get prostitutes and stuff like that.
	So I love this.
	No, no, no.
	This is great.
	So I think this can go both ways, though.
	So as a woman, would you be turned off by a guy who fucked prostitutes?
	I don't know.
	Okay, well, a lot of girls, let's say a guy has been with like 10 girls.
	I don't think, probably for most women, that's probably not like the end of the world for them.
	But if the woman finds out that those 10 women he's been with were all prostitutes.
	No, if it's all prostitutes, I'm like, why are you out here just paying for sex?
	Like, that's a different question for me.
	But it's kind of similar.
	Like prostitutes are, they're kind of dirty.
	They're greasy.
	They're dirty.
	They be fucking.
	They're greasy.
	Thousand, thousand plus bodies.
	Because like, honestly, people are out here calling just OnlyFans models prostitutes.
	So like, no, I'm talking street.
	I'm talking street.
	That's different.
	Street walker.
	Yeah.
	No, for sure.
	I'm talking the $30 DJ in the back of a 7-Eleven.
	That is definitely different.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	I think women would be grossed out by that a little bit.
	Like, oh, you just fucked.
	I think.
	Well, not just fucked.
	But like, for me personally, if a man came to me and was like, this happened in my past and I had sex with a prostitute.
	I'm like, okay, just show me that you're clean.
	And that's where I can go from there.
	Here's a real question.
	For men and women, is it ideal or even preferred?
	I'm not saying it's realistic.
	I'm just asking if it's ideal or preferred that your partner has no other sexual partners and that's the same for them.
	I don't care.
	And all else was equal.
	It was a great relationship.
	You know, there's potential to turn into a marriage and all of this.
	Isn't it ideal when we're really thinking about it that it would just be a one-to-one note that you had no other partners?
	For sure.
	Because what is really gained for either way, some people I've heard even on the show try to argue, well, what's gained is you get to know what you like.
	Well, no, that could be true for the person you're with.
	You can still say, oh, oh, you learn how to have sex properly.
	That could be true with the person that you're with.
	So what is actually gained for men or women to be promiscuous?
	I don't understand what the actual benefit is ultimately.
	Short-term gratification.
	Validation.
	It's just ego.
	Shallow.
	It's just shallow bullshit.
	And then, especially when you're young, it's like if everybody else is doing it, you feel weird.
	You're like, what's wrong with you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You're like, you're messed up.
	You're the messed up one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I still haven't had that question answered because they always go to like practice.
	They're like, well, I was practicing.
	I was doing this.
	Can you ask that again?
	Because I don't understand why.
	Oh, the question was, isn't it ideal for two people, a man and a woman, who they're in a relationship.
	It seems to be something promising.
	Isn't it an ideal from both of their perspectives that they've only been with each other sexually?
	And the second question is, what else would be gained by having multiple partners for either person?
	I mean, it just really just depends on that person's like and their relationship.
	Because I know for me and myself, like, I don't care.
	I have boo things.
	Like I said, like, I don't, I'm not here to have like an actual relationship.
	So for me to like sit here and have a situationship, I'm not going to sit here and demand you to only be with me.
	Like that's something that you're going to have to make your decision on if you're going to make this just inclusive for yourself or whatever.
	But also, I also don't expect you to think like the hypothetical is for people who want to be with each other, who want a relationship, who want to potentially get married.
	And if I wanted a relationship, yeah, then it's just us, but I don't think I would care about their body count regardless.
	Well, you might not care, but if you could have a choice, and now you're in the etherwar hot seat, is if you had the answer, they had no previous sexual partners or I would prefer that they have sexual partners.
	You would choose that they had a lot of people.
	Yeah, because like if you're going to look at other, like I know that you're going to look at other people, so like, why not just like go out, have the fun that you want to, and if you're going to come back or whatever, like that doesn't bother me, you know?
	Yeah, I just don't understand what that adds, though.
	Like, what's the value of that?
	It's like, just for me, it's just not a problem.
	It's not like a value or whatever.
	I don't really see sex as like a valuable thing.
	For me personally, I just do it just because other people like it.
	But like, that's really it.
	There's no value.
	There's no value in sex.
	No, not for me.
	Okay.
	I value people for how they are and how they treat me, but that's it.
	I think at the younger age, you could say that people would do that to figure out their type.
	Yeah, someone tries to say that.
	But in some point, you know.
	But yeah, but even that, you can find your type without having sex, too.
	Right?
	you know your body enough you it's it's not hard to figure out if that energy would work with you yeah because if if you get to it's it's the energy Yeah, I'm saying that's a, yeah, I'm saying that you would, you still wouldn't need to have sex to find your type.
	In fact, if you got to know someone to the point where you would be willing to have sex with them, you've already decided without having sex with them.
	So, you know, all you're really adding to the equation is doing something that you really want to do that's actually not necessary to do, but just both people want to do it.
	And I think this is why we're in such a predicament here, is that people are having all sorts of sex and they're able to avoid the consequence, which is a birth.
	And they're able to avoid another otherwise required thing, which is trust.
	So, you know, again, it goes back to the women giving this away to men and calling it liberation, where what you're saying is like that's never built up, like where you actually earn it, you know, that you earn these next phases of your intimacy.
	There's no earning anymore.
	No.
	You know, that is a big problem.
	Yeah.
	In my opinion.
	Okay.
	Guys, we're going to do a $20.
	Let's just go ahead and just leave this up.
	$20 TTS, guys.
	We're going to go into the roast session here that we're going to get wrapped up pretty soon.
	So $20 TTS roast.
	There's a lot of subject material here for roasting if you want.
	You can roast me.
	Felicity needs a bit of a roast.
	She got a little...
	I mean, look at the shirt.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, look at that shirt.
	Oh, my God.
	Unbelievable.
	Tiffany needs a big roast.
	The one percenter over here, Tiffany, the one percenter, she needs to be asking for it.
	Yeah.
	Why did you look at me?
	I'm easily roastable.
	I get it.
	Bunny Rabbit.
	Guys, if you can, though, thank you for the super chat.
	Try to send it through Streamlabs.
	It's just a bit easier for us.
	People don't like.
	They show you.
	I get regular checkups.
	My results are on an app.
	Also, don't date men or women.
	You know, F a lot of people, just like you say about women.
	Don't do it unless you make sure.
	Show me the Vag facts.
	That's a great idea for a business.
	Show me the car facts.
	Thank you for that, Bunny Rabbit.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah, man.
	That's crazy.
	The Vag facts.
	Big of true.
	Big labia matter.
	That's all.
	I'll only date a girl with, I'll date these any chicks.
	That's the foundation.
	An any is good.
	Just kidding.
	I'll date a girl with an any.
	I wonder if like that throws shit off, though.
	Like if a girl watches the show and they're like, oh, he has a thing for like Audis.
	And then like she's insecure the entire relationship if she has an any.
	It could.
	Probably happen.
	Probably.
	You know, it's like imagine like if a girl, I could, that probably happens to men.
	Oh, for sure.
	Like, the girl's like, oh, my ex.
	Bro, he's ruined.
	He's done for.
	Yeah.
	You say, you tell a guy that your ex had a huge peen, it's over.
	Why would you?
	Yeah, that's fucked up.
	That's a terrible thing to say.
	That's fucked up.
	Why would you do that?
	That's just a red flag.
	I've not had that happen to me, but it probably has happened.
	See, but wouldn't you?
	Okay, we're going to go down this really quickly.
	Wouldn't you consider that somewhat mentally abusive?
	To be like, or emotionally abusive or whatever.
	To be like, my ex is better than you.
	Constantly in the back of your mind, you're like, oh, I'm not good enough.
	I got to try to be better at anything that's not going to be a lot of fun.
	That definitely is abusive because that's intentionally ruined somebody else's.
	Okay, so Brian, dropping a bug in someone's mind constantly is just not fair.
	What would you consider mental and emotional abuse, Brian?
	I can get that, but like to say, oh, my ex had a bigger penis, that's not necessarily abusive.
	Unless they're saying it in a way to purposely hurt you, like they'll be like, oh, my God is way bigger.
	My ex was way bigger.
	You know, to hurt your feelings, make you feel like bat, like body shaming you.
	I think that's when it can become abusive.
	But to just flat out say, yeah, but is it abusive?
	No.
	I think it's just the pattern.
	I think if it's a continuous, deliberate pattern, that's when it becomes abusive.
	Yeah.
	Wait, sorry, can you repeat the question?
	What would you consider mental abuse, emotional abuse?
	So the girlfriend is saying, oh, my ex was better in bed.
	Just, yeah, in general, like just a little bit.
	I wouldn't categorize.
	I think that's a terrible thing to say to somebody in a relationship.
	Sure.
	I would not categorize it as abuse.
	You're a jerk.
	You're an asshole.
	They should dump you.
	I don't think it's abusive.
	So what would you consider abusive?
	And what I think about that really quick is that if it's a one-off, yeah, that's shitty.
	If it's a constant, deliberate pattern, that's when it becomes a bad thing.
	Sure, I can agree with you if it's like bombardment.
	Yeah.
	Yes, if they said it one-off, but like every time you fucked them and then they were like, Whoa, you're really bad in bed.
	My ex was so much better.
	That's horrible.
	That's abusive.
	That is abusive.
	mentally and emotionally abusive you're messing with somebody else constantly and that was your choice to be there sure i'll I'll grant that if there's a pattern, then yes.
	I think a one-off thing, again, terrible thing to say.
	I think just on that one thing, that could be the breakup.
	That's a breakup.
	Yeah.
	But I don't, I think people can do breakup-worthy things that are not abusive.
	Sure.
	I agree.
	So, aren't there dudes who like demand that the woman tell them that they're better than their ex or their exes are degradation or if they're scumbaging?
	If they ask for it, if they demand that, no.
	No, but the thing is, it's like all of the shame and the ridicule is still there.
	It's not like it's not, it's not the same thing.
	It's like what happened with me when I was talking about the death by a thousand cuts earlier.
	It's like it ultimately was my responsibility.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, if they're prone to like, it sounds like it's only abuse if you just don't like what they're doing, but the same exact behavior for someone who likes the terrible feeling.
	Sure.
	It's not abuse.
	No, it's not.
	It's ultimately their responsibility.
	And if it bothers them eventually, then that's their problem.
	I don't think that that's abuse because they're asking for it.
	If anything, you're doing them a favor.
	Leave this one up.
	For example, if two bullies are in a relationship with each other, they back and forth doing it to each other.
	So it doesn't hurt either of them because that's their game.
	But if this is not.
	Wait, can you just leave your drink there?
	Just stop playing with yourself.
	If that's not the dynamic for the person who is actually taking a person and getting hit by it, that becomes an abuse.
	That's how you can basically look at it.
	All right, guys.
	$20 TTS real session.
	We have Andre, Canadian 20.
	Felicity looks like she's being held against her will.
	Chair four and five are based.
	What are your ex-handles?
	Chair one, trust me, bro.
	I can fix her.
	Bro, she's got a 39-year-old giant BBC boyfriend.
	I think he's talking about her, like he can fix her.
	Oh.
	But if that's what you meant, I hope he makes 500 bands.
	Boom.
	Sweet.
	You know what?
	This whole like the conversation, though, around abuse reminds me of.
	Did you hear about this whole Harry Sisson thing where he was like, he was like texting 10 different chicks or something?
	And they I think it's kind of a jerk that maybe he's a bit of a jerk.
	Maybe he's a bit of an asshole.
	But these women are like, wow, we're victims and it's abusive.
	I'm like, no, he's just, he's a jerk.
	He's an asshole.
	He's a fuckboy.
	It's fake.
	You guys got played, but it's not like, it's not abusive.
	Okay, he's like, got a roster.
	And even if he lied about it, I don't think that's abusive.
	If he was like in a relationship with all of them and he was like, yeah, you're the one, that's different.
	No, then it's not abusive.
	He's just a player.
	Don't chicks have rosters now?
	That's like their power move?
	They're like, I have rosters.
	Oh, yeah.
	Most of these girls are dating them.
	Can you elaborate on that?
	What is it?
	Like, they have a roster.
	They have like a list of dudes they can call and put into the game, so to speak.
	And that's like, they're managing now.
	Like, they're the team owner.
	And it's like, that just works against the women, especially.
	It actually works against the women more so than it works against the men.
	Yeah, we're at the tail end of the decadent war for sure.
	Now we're getting the dark ages again.
	Yeah, never forget.
	You're the gatekeepers of the Vegin.
	Yeah.
	Oh, going around the table.
	What's your body count?
	11.
	I think so, 15.
	15 or 50?
	15.
	12.
	4.
	4?
	Okay.
	Zero.
	2.
	Not saying.
	Neither am I. Of course not.
	The patriarchy wins again.
	Of course not.
	That's what I'm saying.
	What are you saying?
	It's just like bullshit.
	Like, that's different, but it's like, if you're going to demand that, not demand, but if you're going to ask somebody that question, it's like, and then they ask you, and it's like, I don't want to tell you.
	It's like kind of fucking.
	You don't have to tell us.
	Yeah.
	Well, then I did earlier.
	No, you have to answer.
	You would have forced it.
	And which is fine.
	And I know what I signed up for.
	I'm just saying there's just a gender kind of a thing.
	This doesn't apply the same to each of us, but I think that once you're married and you've been married for a while, like talking about that stuff is just like, is nonsensical.
	Yeah, I mean, I can see that for you.
	Yeah.
	It's just kind of like, yeah.
	It's clearly a double standard.
	Well, there's girls that come in here all the time.
	They say, I don't want to answer that.
	Sure.
	You can just say, I don't want to answer if you really don't want to.
	Always a little pushback, but I'm just saying.
	They harassed that girl until she left.
	That's not a little pushback.
	That was different, though.
	I don't think so.
	It was happening for a while way before that question even came up.
	Good shit.
	Good times.
	It's a little bit of fun here.
	All right, we have, wait, what?
	Eric, prayers for the Wilson family, WJB.
	Shout out the boys at Made by Jim Bob YouTube channel, Jay Dyer next on whatever.
	Thank you.
	God bless.
	I've heard of Jay Dyer.
	Yeah, he's awesome.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Eric, for the soup chat.
	Wait, prayers?
	Is everything okay with...
	Well...
	They had a tornado, and then I know Rachel's had some.
	Oh, yeah, Rachel's been having some health stuff.
	Shit, okay.
	There's a tornado?
	Damn.
	There was.
	There was.
	15 bodies, but how many trees?
	Just one tree.
	Only one tree.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	That's cool.
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	It's like Canadian A. All right, guys.
	$20.
	Bro, I think our Stream Labs is bugged.
	This is crazy.
	Okay, well, what else do I have?
	So you've been single for six months, you said?
	Yes.
	Longest relationship?
	Longest relationship?
	Oh, that was a 10 years.
	From what age to what?
	Can you stop playing with the cup, please?
	I'm just going to put this over here.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	10 years, you say?
	From what age to like 18 to or no, nine?
	Six months ago is when it ended.
	Oh, shit.
	Who dumbed to?
	Me?
	Damn, wait, this is the abusive guy?
	Wait, 10 years.
	The abusive potential.
	You were in that relationship for 10 years?
	She stayed for 10.
	It wasn't bad at first.
	No, no, no.
	All the SoundCloud rappers you could have had sex with.
	Wait, did he become abusive?
	I was like, I was just abusive in the last five, three.
	Yeah, it just slowly started happening.
	It was just like he just got more comfortable with it.
	Or I just started noticing it more because, you know, at the end of the day, it's just like, yeah, I fucking suck.
	You know, whatever.
	Like, yeah, I could do that better, but like, yeah, I suck.
	You know, kind of a thing.
	And then it just gets worse and worse to the point where like, it's just like, okay.
	I don't know.
	I actually, I don't know.
	It's just like with people like that.
	I don't even know.
	I'm just rambling.
	I actually ended up breaking up with him.
	So we never did couples therapy, but I was like, let's go.
	And then I broke up with him in couples therapy because if I didn't do that, if there wasn't like a third party there, like it would just go on and on forever and I'd just be a piece of shit.
	So if you have a third party there, that's another piece of advice.
	A lot of the times they'll just accept it.
	And, you know, in therapy, I asked, I was like, if there's anything I did wrong, like, I want to talk about it.
	I want to know what I did wrong.
	Had nothing to say.
	And like, that just sounds like I'm blowing smoke at my own ass, but it's true.
	Like, nothing to say.
	I mean, he said you were in the way.
	So.
	Yeah, like, you know, things like that.
	But I am Burley.
	So.
	Wait, so is it confirmed that the Stream Labs is not working?
	Because chat is Stream.
	I mean, some people are saying Streamlabs is bugged.
	Just do it through super chats, guys.
	We'll just do super chats then.
	If Streamlabs is actually bugged, just send it in through Super Chat, YouTube Super Chat.
	Last one for tonight, Brian.
	I bet you're a terrible poker player.
	All I can see is your reactions to whatever's on your screen while everyone is talking.
	Can I get an ost, osti, did taber tabern us?
	I don't tab or knock.
	Tab or knock.
	Taber knock.
	I'm not sure what that is, but thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay, guys.
	$20 T apparently, guys, the Stream Labs is busted.
	I'm not sure why.
	Trying to figure out what could be going on.
	I think that's what happened.
	Y2K.
	That is super weird.
	Let me see what's going on here, guys.
	One sec.
	No, that's still enabled.
	I'm going to check one other thing.
	But so have you had a rebound?
	Is that too soon?
	No?
	No.
	I think that's kind of like.
	I want to just like use somebody.
	And I also don't.
	Why not?
	You should totally get on some strange.
	I should have been the predecessor to all this degeneracy.
	You're right.
	Wait, what?
	I said I should have been the predecessor to all this degeneracy and just sort of just like I could get a rebound for that and then I could get a rebound for that rebound and it just never ends.
	Yes.
	The rebound inception kind of.
	Yeah, there's got to be something catchier though.
	The domino effect of the rebound.
	If you take the 10 men theory, I'll get it.
	I think he's like just plowing through.
	Like, do you think he's just running through?
	Where do you from?
	New York.
	Do you think he's just plowing through some fucking Brooklyn, some fucking Queens chicks?
	Oh, no, he lives here.
	And also.
	Oh, he lives in California.
	Oh, shit.
	I'm in California.
	Wait, North Carolina, where I actually live.
	I'm not used to.
	Wait, was this a long-distance relationship?
	No, no, we both lived in the same apartment in North Carolina.
	Oh, but I just forgot where I was.
	He dipped, and now he's living.
	I broke up with him.
	Well, but he dipped from North Carolina.
	No, he didn't.
	So he's still in North Carolina.
	Yes.
	So is he getting some Charlotte, Greensboro?
	Charlotte?
	Just Charlotte.
	I only know those two.
	Just running through some UNC chicks.
	You think?
	Universally care.
	I feel nothing.
	Like, I grieved the relationship before I left, basically, because I worked on myself.
	And by the end of it, I was like, fuck this.
	I don't deserve this.
	Yeah, so honestly, he can do whatever he wants.
	Have you ever considered having a glow up?
	What do you mean?
	I don't know if you have to choose between their standards, but what do you know?
	Like, doing a whole like makeup thing.
	Like, I just like.
	Where did that even come from?
	I felt, I was like, I'm so confident.
	Well, what happens is when, you know, when women men do this too, like, they'll suddenly break up and get super fit and ripped.
	Sure.
	Like, your reaction is, you know, like, not to like, you know, get all prettied up and stuff.
	You know, why is that?
	What is this?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	No, you know, makeup and shit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I lost a lot of weight.
	I did start.
	Yeah, I started taking care of myself and I focused on myself, which I never did because I was constantly focused on him and how I can be a better person in general for him.
	Yeah, so for you.
	Anyway, then I started focusing on myself and it was great.
	And it still is.
	So no rebound?
	I mean, for women, like you said you're a comedian.
	I know you're just like kind of playing around, but you don't want to look like a female comedian, also.
	No, I don't.
	Yeah, you don't want two of those things.
	So.
	No.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	That's why I lost weight.
	Yeah, you're going to have to start getting dolled up.
	It's just part of the game.
	Well, okay, the reason I didn't do anything is because I was on a plane in North Carolina.
	Like, it took me forever to get here.
	I'm not going to, like.
	No, not now.
	I'm saying, like, in, you know, to attract future men, eventually your husband, basically.
	I mean, I do get dolled up.
	It's I've just been on an airplane.
	Oh, no.
	No worries.
	Like seven hours.
	Yeah.
	So I don't care.
	No, I'm just saying in general.
	Yeah.
	No, I feel like.
	Do you have a Twitter?
	No.
	I have a throwaway.
	Twitter?
	Yeah, I have a throwaway.
	But you said you have fans, like, from where?
	Like, what's your platform?
	Do you have a platform?
	I have Instagram and shit.
	There's people, like.
	I feel like you're not telling us something.
	Because I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's not like super top secret.
	I just don't know how to explain it without sounding like, I don't know.
	You have a cult?
	Well, if you want to find a man, the worst possible thing you can do as a woman is try to be a comedian.
	I just like making people laugh.
	I'm like the Joker.
	Is that what he says?
	Does he like being making people laugh?
	You're proving your point.
	They're proving my point.
	What?
	It's my bad.
	What?
	It's the first time she's a child.
	Do you want to be a mother?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	That should be your priority.
	Yeah, I don't give a shit.
	Like, I don't, I'm not.
	This is not my destiny or my fate.
	I just, why, in my opinion?
	Wait, can you?
	You have a set.
	I don't, I said I'm a comedian.
	It's hyperbolic.
	She doesn't.
	Oh, I don't have.
	Wait, do you do stand-up or no?
	No, she doesn't.
	Wait, what?
	We didn't understand your cryptic multiple references.
	You should have read my mind.
	This is what I'm talking about.
	Yeah, yeah, you should have.
	But wait, where's your platform?
	What does that have?
	I don't have, I'm not a comedian.
	I have an Instagram.
	Yeah, but you have like 600 followers.
	Yeah, I don't have.
	That's why she said I'm an underground comedian.
	Oh, you're just being stupid.
	Oh, so was that a joke?
	Yeah, I'm just being stupid.
	She's just a silly girl.
	I thought you had like a...
	Yeah, I'm just a silly girl.
	I thought you had, like, an audience or something.
	Like, even if it's small, like, but maybe it's, like, Is it, like, Truth Social?
	Truth social.
	I don't know.
	Are you a Republican or what's your political?
	I thought you actually were a comedian.
	You actually look like the type who suddenly brings out a ukulele and does like a cute song and you're like, I don't like that.
	Talk to us off today.
	You don't like ukuleles?
	I don't like being associated with ukulele's.
	That's not good.
	What about banjos?
	That's actually, I agree with that.
	A little bit better.
	Ukulele's are pretty.
	It used to be cool.
	There was like a moment there where they had like a place and then.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Like the type of people who pick up a ukulele, it's just run.
	Yeah, you just don't know who you are yet, though.
	No commitment.
	Unless you're Hawaiian, that's fine.
	If you're making fucking cover songs on YouTube, it's like with a ukulele.
	All right, boys, you got to do it through super chat.
	I don't know what's going on with Streamlabs.
	Jim Bob, fly chair one, the shoulders are similar.
	Damn it.
	See?
	What's wrong with you?
	I don't know what was.
	Well, is that supposed to be rude?
	On my channel, they started this meme where I have really narrow shoulders, and then I started believing it a lot, and then it sent me to the gym, which proves that shame works.
	Nice.
	I think I just have a giant head.
	It's not actually totally narrow shoulders.
	What do you guys think?
	Getting body dysmorphia now.
	I think it, I guess we're going to be able to do it.
	Is it normal shoulders, giant head?
	Something like that.
	Small shoulders.
	Like a caricature.
	Yeah.
	I don't just want to.
	You know what?
	I'm going to have Sammy.
	You're in charge of reading these, okay?
	Oh, okay.
	Into the mic if you can.
	Chair two, metal detectors must hate you, huh?
	What's it like going through the airport security with you?
	Am I supposed to answer that?
	if you could or not fine i'm not sure what else to say Have you been on an airplane?
	Yeah, of course.
	Do you have to take out all the piercings?
	The last time that I went on an airplane, the only reason why they kicked, like, they had to, like, basically shirt me down and like, you know, do like the metal detector thing or whatever is because I had a stone underneath my wig.
	A stone underneath your wig.
	Oh, like the stone energy thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They were like, what's underneath there?
	And I was like, girl, I forgot it was there.
	I'm just a little bit.
	That's awesome.
	That's so awesome.
	You're like, what's under this wig?
	It's just a rock.
	And you're like, I forgot.
	Chair three socials.
	Chair three socials.
	I need a new comedy.
	What is truth social?
	What is that?
	No, they're asking.
	Never mind.
	What's your Instagram?
	Oh.
	Andrew's Beer.
	No, they actually have good beer here.
	Andrew drinks shit beer.
	I wasn't listening to that.
	Oh, gross.
	My Instagram is fuck.
	It's just f.u.c.k.
	Sweet.
	Read this one.
	Chat is starting the hashtag tree2.
	Yo, thank you, Kat, for the soup chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Tree2.
	Yeah, he's that.
	No, I'm not.
	They don't have his beer.
	I read it.
	Jim Bob, Andrew will literally fight you if you were drinking his beer.
	Sweet.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Shout out to Charlotte, North Carolina.
	We have plenty of mid chicks here.
	Don't worry.
	He's just running through.
	How does that make you feel?
	What?
	Never mind.
	Okay, read this one.
	Bear or man highlights delusion or prejudice with a woman.
	It's a bear's nature to kill you.
	It's a man's nature to protect you.
	I recommend you remind them of this after they answer the question to test their logic again.
	I mean, it depends.
	The bear could be pretty nice.
	Tiffany, read this one.
	Alien Sugar Maple said he gave you all his branches for DP, yet you're still ghosting him.
	Personally, I don't think I could eat pancakes with syrup again.
	Disgusting.
	Thank you, Christopher.
	Oh, Tiffany, can you read this please?
	The test of a woman is childbirth.
	The test of a man is a woman.
	A man must be in control of himself and his woman, but a woman cannot be controlled like a man controls another man.
	It's more like controlling a nervous dog.
	Hmm.
	Thank you for that.
	Honest a-hole.
	I appreciate it.
	Okay.
	Tyree Santiego, thank you.
	To chair two, all it takes is a giant magnet, and your face is done.
	I have a magnet in here if you want to.
	Okay, if you want to.
	Do you?
	It's not going to do anything.
	Are they magnetic?
	Are pewter things magnetic?
	No, no.
	Pewter, steel.
	What?
	What is this?
	Is it pewter and steel?
	It's just a Sterling silver.
	Sterling, yeah.
	But it's not magic.
	Yeah, Sterling's not magnetic.
	All right, read this one.
	Chair three's textbook definition of adorkable.
	My favorite Minecraft biome is Taiga.
	I'd appreciate you forever if you organize my chest room.
	And chair two reminds me of the song Monster by Reckless Love.
	That's what's up.
	Oh, there you go.
	Sounds like a potential date.
	I really enjoy organizing you.
	Go ahead, Tiffany.
	Tiffany's nickname after her glow-up will be Toothpick Tiffany.
	The fuck?
	Oh, because I take that as a compliment.
	I will say that adorkable is definitely a ukulele thing.
	That is.
	Wow.
	I'm a little on the fence about that one.
	Yo, Seth, thank you for the $20 super chat.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You guys remind her.
	We're doing a $20 super chat roast session.
	So if you want, get it in.
	It's through YouTube.
	Unfortunately, I don't know why Streamlabs isn't working.
	So, yeah.
	Read this one, Tiffany.
	Jim Bob W, Black Bears are 13% of the population, but commit 50% of all attacks.
	Girl that rage quit needs to buy a Burka.
	Chair one, Toll Status, Chair Two, no words necessary.
	Chair three looks like a feminist lesbian Joe Dirt.
	Are you a feminist?
	No.
	I actually thought you were.
	I did judge you when you walked in.
	I was like, finally, the hardcore feminist comes in.
	I gave myself a really shitty haircut.
	I didn't mind.
	Yeah, I thought you fucking hated it.
	I thought one of you tonight was going to say end the patriarchy.
	Absolutely.
	And nobody said it.
	No.
	Is there anybody?
	I'm right, Wayne.
	Still, no.
	Nobody.
	But yeah, I find it.
	Unbelievable.
	Chair five is kind of creepy.
	Is that me?
	Yeah, that's.
	Why am I creepy?
	Justin Martin's, why is she creepy?
	Why you, bro?
	Are you talking shit about Tiffany, dude?
	Maybe I was a creepy.
	Yo.
	One, two, three.
	No, are you talking fucking shit about Tiffany, Justin?
	Yeah, nigga, we will go mash you.
	What?
	Me and Tiffany, bro.
	We rep the same podcast.
	That was scary.
	Thank you, Justin Martins.
	Oh my god, there's so many coming in.
	They are crazy.
	Okay, read this one, Tiff.
	T-Dog.
	You should smile more, Sammy, but I wouldn't be able to round them either.
	However, when are you going to be open that black back door LMA JK?
	Wow, that's haram.
	Um, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I don't think I'll ever do that kind of content.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I just don't do that weird shit for real.
	Wait, is this do you think the first part though is do you think it's because she's a lot of my people a lot of my people say I need to smile, dude.
	I don't know if it's the old man white toothpick thing, but I think it's just something they tell me.
	Yeah, the second part, I don't understand.
	I wouldn't want to be around them either.
	Yeah, not sure about the beer.
	It's hard to take you seriously when you have a single ball, Newton's pendulum swinging from your nose.
	Not to mention the other sharp nail on your face.
	Shrapnel.
	Shrapnel.
	I do know I have shrapnel.
	All right, thank you.
	We have this one.
	My wife asked me why I don't help out with the dishes anymore.
	I told her that it's illegal for men to compete in women's sports.
	That's supposed to be funny.
	I like that one.
	I like that one.
	That's like a good old school joke.
	Where can we get that shit?
	Ha aloa shirt, JB.
	I heard you got it from.
	Heard you got it from coming soon at Made by Jim Bob shop.
	I do sell shirts at madebyjimbob.com.
	You bring me books, but no shirts.
	But this is from Kauai directly.
	Vintage shirt from Kauai.
	I just couldn't resist.
	Jim Bob Bahama.
	Uh-huh.
	So which of you chicks has the fake knockers?
	Uh-huh.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	That's funny.
	From Buttonhead.
	Shout out to Butthead.
	Any fake titties at the table?
	Tiffany?
	Are you going to get some?
	No.
	You said you were getting plastic surgery.
	Just a nose.
	A nose, John.
	Oh, okay, whatever.
	For sure.
	For show.
	Okay, we have.
	I have petitioned the court to modify the distance on my restraining order.
	For the love of God, I'm a tree, not a sex object.
	Yo, oh, this driftwood.
	Thank you for the soup, chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Do you want to respond to that, Alien, or no?
	No, Ellie Archer.
	Okay, thank you for the compliment.
	Appreciate it.
	Hey, Alien, maybe Jim Bob could make your next face piece.
	It's because I'm a jewelry maker.
	Oh, that's lore.
	Question for the panel.
	What's your favorite crystal?
	Color crystal.
	I like rose quartz.
	Is that the one that's in front of you?
	Yep.
	See, I got you.
	I know, I appreciate that.
	All right.
	Thank you, Christopher.
	We have this one.
	Tiffany, I'll have you read it.
	Tiffany, your nose is fine.
	Don't chop it off.
	Brian, love your show.
	Haven't missed one for about 18 months.
	Keep up the good work.
	Eh bien, merci beaucoup, Mr. P.T.R.D.
	C'est vraiment très bien, ça, Canadian, $20.
	It is very nice. Thank you very much.
	Tabernak.
	Canadian, good.
	I don't know.
	Bro, being cringe.
	My bad.
	Chair to a genuine question.
	Not trying to be mean.
	How much weight have you gained since your last appearance?
	It looks like you ate your way through some redwoods.
	I don't know.
	Hey, Tiffany, I have a question for you.
	Yeah.
	So you're very pro being skinny.
	Yeah.
	If you could get rid of all fat people, but or wait, what's the trade-off here?
	All fat.
	This would include me because I'm a little chubby right now.
	So fuck.
	I wouldn't consider you fat, though.
	I mean, I'm chubby.
	Wait, wait, bro.
	Don't.
	I mean.
	Damn, bro.
	He's like, looking at me, though.
	You guys are getting body dysmorphia tonight.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a hypothetical.
	So get rid of both of you.
	Wait, question.
	You're Korean, right?
	Yeah.
	Did you're.
	I feel like from what I've heard from people I've known who are Asian, but I've heard this from a Korean girl.
	She told me that like Korean parents, if their kid's fat, will tell them they're fat.
	Like you're fat, you gotta lose weight.
	Is this true?
	Yeah.
	Like white parents will be like, oh my God, you're stop it.
	You're just thumping you with the fool the way you are.
	Oh, they're brutal.
	Yeah, I feel like Asian parents are like going to lay down.
	Like, they're brutal.
	Listen up.
	You fucking failure.
	Yeah.
	But I think that's valid, bro.
	Good.
	They're brutal.
	Good.
	And you got on top of it.
	Yeah.
	So did your mom call you fat, though?
	No, I was never fat.
	Oh, okay.
	I was always skinny.
	I just wanted to skinnier.
	Did she say, like, you need to lose a couple pounds, though?
	Did she say, don't ever get fat?
	Did she say that?
	Like, don't ever get fat?
	Yeah, like the threat of like, don't ever.
	No, like a PSA.
	We have Sarah here.
	Go ahead, read it.
	Somebody besides.
	That's Sarah.
	That's Tiffany.
	Brian, if you're ever in Nashville, drinks on me.
	Nice.
	I'm never going to be in Nashville.
	I'm sorry.
	There's no reason for me to ever go to Nashville.
	What goes out one street?
	Broadway.
	The fuck is.
	I think daily there's a street there.
	That's like a whole thing.
	Oh, right.
	What if they invite you to be able to do that?
	Don't you want to get Ben Shapiro on?
	Come on, Brian.
	I mean, that'd be good for the show.
	That'd be an interesting thing.
	I will definitely get on the panel with all these hoes.
	I mean, are you good?
	That's pretty good.
	That was too good.
	All right, guys.
	$20 roast through the YouTube super chats.
	We're switching it up because our stream labs is scuffed, majorly scuffed.
	L Stream Labs, what the hell is going on?
	Can somebody test it, though?
	Again, see if it's still not working because that's pretty frustrating.
	Let's see what else we have to do.
	Get them in if you want, guys.
	We're going to get this wrapped up here soon.
	Well, then, we did the body count.
	We talked about that.
	What's everybody's orientation?
	What is it?
	Oh.
	Like pronouns?
	Trisexual.
	Like, is anybody here bi?
	I'm bisexual.
	So some of your bodies are women.
	Or you didn't count, like when you said what, 11?
	Yeah, I didn't count.
	Was it 11?
	And I only had only body count was 11.
	I've only been with one girl, and I did not count her in that because we did not necessarily sleep together.
	It was actually for an OF collab.
	I had mentioned her in our messages, but so not really.
	All right.
	Magaveli says, Brian, bring on Alex Jones or Sam Hyde.
	Bring on Kanye.
	Sam Hyde would be funny.
	He would fuck your shit up.
	Probably.
	Thank you, Magaveli, for the super chat.
	Appreciate it.
	Excuse me.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you guys.
	Okay, I guess sort of final call.
	Super chat.
	Send it in through YouTube.
	$20 Super Chat Roast if you want to roast anybody.
	Where's the Felicity Roast?
	Where's the Priscilla Prothilla?
	Where's the Prothilla?
	I miss Priscilla.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Oh, what is.
	Wait, I swear I had a good one.
	I'm gonna put a scar on her.
	Fucking awesome.
	I wanted to give Felicity a freaking compliment, actually.
	You look like Poppy to me.
	You're so pretty.
	Who's Poppy?
	Oh, she's a singer.
	Poppy.
	Oh, wait.
	You look just like her.
	She's really pretty, though.
	Or she's a singer.
	Thank you.
	She's like a rock singer.
	Don't worry about it.
	Have you ever seen Camp Rock?
	Wow, that's kind of honestly, bro.
	That's kind of an insult.
	Why are you talking shit to Felicity?
	How is that an insult?
	You're saying she looks like Poppy?
	I would literally give up my knees for Poppy.
	So I'm.
	I don't know who Poppy is.
	I have to look at a picture.
	You should look it up.
	She's great.
	I think she's great.
	Damn, bro.
	That's an insult.
	I think you're a little bit more.
	That's a fucking insult.
	She's gorgeous.
	She's a gorgeous woman.
	That's an insult.
	That's an insult to Felicity.
	I mean, I'm not insulted.
	I don't know.
	But you remind me of Tess from also from Camp Rock.
	Do you want to direct maybe a couple compliments towards Jim Bob here?
	Because I feel like he needs some compliments.
	I have compliments for all the ladies.
	I love your shirt, Jan.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	Your head is proportionate to your shoulders.
	Oh, my God.
	I am clipping that.
	That's forever.
	Let's replay it over and over.
	Okay, name taken says, Brian, you're fatter and gayer than DSP.
	No, just kidding, bro.
	Love you.
	Who's DSP?
	No idea.
	Another rapper or DSP.
	Seems like a lot of I'm fatter and gayer.
	Maybe it's Dolly Partner and her middle name, Sarah, or something.
	What if I'm straighter than him?
	I could be straighter than them.
	We're having a straight-off all of a sudden.
	Wait.
	No idea who that is.
	Fat gay guy.
	I'm trying to think of a fat gay dude.
	Why are you doing this, bro?
	Okay.
	Thank you for that.
	Oh, they did for me, girl.
	Thank you.
	Is there anything else we ought to do?
	Tiffany, what is the.
	Oh, I wanted to ask this.
	What is of your like girl you know?
	Maybe you heard you were in high school.
	Girl you know, this is for the whole panel.
	What's the highest body count you've heard from a girl?
	Let's start with you, Sammy.
	The highest I heard from a girl is about in the 50s, and she was my age, and that was last year, so I was 18.
	So she was 18 and she had 50.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	What about you, Alien?
	Someone you know, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah?
	Just confirming, right?
	Because there's.
	Yes, he said someone you know, like a friend.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, someone, yeah, like maybe you went to school with them or.
	Oh, okay.
	I think about like 40.
	40?
	Okay.
	I don't know if I've ever, like, I don't know if anyone's ever bragged about that to me.
	Or you heard, but like you were in high school and some girl did the whole football team.
	Sure, but I don't know.
	I don't want to give you a fake answer.
	I just don't know.
	Okay, that's fine.
	What about you?
	Just to slip my mom to add that.
	Tiffany?
	I think around the 50s.
	50s, Felicity.
	You know, some strumpets.
	Yeah, she said like 65 or 70, somewhere around there.
	How old is she?
	She was 29 at the time.
	Yeah.
	Oh, Tiffany, just tilt your mic.
	Like, actually, wait, Tiffany.
	Wait, sorry.
	Felicity.
	Do you want to just take that seat?
	That's probably.
	It's probably easier to get you in frame a little bit.
	Okay, cool.
	And we have Wi-Fi.
	Wait.
	What's up, Wi-Fi?
	Andrew said you don't have to replace the beer if you square up with Snotchan.
	Is Andrew streaming?
	I don't know.
	No, I don't think so.
	Maybe he was, though.
	Okay.
	We have Christopher.
	Brian, California is a huge L. Move the stream to Florida.
	Get with the program.
	California's I feel like California's behind enemy lines like that's where you want to be you know what what would be the alternative though if you were to choose like one state city to do the show yeah oh well to do the show I would move it to Los Angeles LA yeah it'd be way easier to have like Sant Barbara's out of the way two hours out of the way yeah LA major hub entertainment you know people are actors,
	whatever content creators are out there.
	I could probably I could probably do three shows a week.
	Well, in terms of guest booking, I would be able to book for three shows a week.
	It would be way easier, but yeah.
	What's stopping you from doing it?
	I want to live in LA.
	That's true.
	That's a downside.
	That's the downside.
	Santa Barbara, while being in California, Santa Barbara is nice.
	We did.
	Tiffany, I'm going to have you read this one.
	Brian Burritos, or do you miss wearing flannel more?
	Wow, that's a good.
	I want to get back to the flannels, so that would be nice.
	This is below the threshold, but why not?
	We'll do it.
	Can Jim Bob, as Bernie Sanders, ask the panel, would you date me, Bernie, for one of my mansions?
	Look!
	Hold on.
	Look, ladies, would you want to date me if I had $50 billion?
	You all deserve abortions.
	The drudgery of listening to that guy.
	It's like you.
	It's like arduous.
	It's like horrible.
	This is for Jim Bob.
	If you can read it, Tiffany.
	Jim Bob, when you shrug them tiny shoulders, does it inflate them ears?
	That's true.
	Felicity, I'm going to have you.
	Wait, what the?
	Okay, good luck, Felicity, on this one.
	Wow.
	Tiffany Socials, Brian, Austi, host.
	What is this?
	Cubic Coast.
	Follow the election.
	We about to become China.
	Help.
	Follow.
	Okay, Andre, Mercy Buku.
	My TikTok's real, Tiff X. NYE.
	I love that for you.
	Read this one, Felicity.
	Chair three, I will take you in and fix you, but if and only if slipped my mind was a kids in the hall reference.
	I don't think she.
	Oh, yeah, kids in the hall.
	No, I love kids in the hall.
	I mean, it's been years.
	Their intro song is dope.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Felicity, read this one.
	Felicity, can we see that Maddie cap?
	No simple.
	Can't put it on?
	Nah, he's got it.
	You got to send in a $69 super chat if you want to see Felicity in the this one.
	You want me to read it?
	Yeah.
	Top 1% needs to make more than 500K.
	It's at least 1 million in some areas.
	You grew up hardly in top 10%.
	Girl, you need to wake up to reality.
	Sassy.
	Girl.
	Girl.
	You need to wake up to reality.
	Thank you, Maze, for the super chat.
	All right, guys, if you want $20 roast.
	Wait, wasn't I going to ask a question or something?
	Shit.
	What was the question I asked earlier?
	I think you asked if people were lesbians.
	I think that's something that was asked.
	Fuck.
	That was a good memory.
	Wait, hold on.
	I have in my notes here.
	One sec.
	I'm talking about orientation.
	Orientation.
	Orientation.
	That's true.
	Asked about that.
	Oh.
	Wait, I have something.
	Hold on one sec.
	One sec.
	Let's.
	So it is, um...
	Damn it.
	I think I can't find it.
	That's unfortunate.
	Wait, what?
	Sorry, guys.
	One sec.
	I'm trying to find...
	I wrote notes.
	Floundering.
	Totally, totally dropping the ball here.
	Well, okay, can't find it.
	Go ahead, Tiffany, read this one.
	Trump 2028, the tariff school war, give it time.
	Our Republic's Republic is worth it.
	America First, Chair Three Seems Based, but looks like a lib.
	I know it sucks.
	It's my fucking hair.
	Who did you vote?
	Who did you vote?
	I hate my hair.
	Who did you?
	Trump.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	Huh, okay.
	Why is that weird?
	Oh, hey, look.
	Is this Andrew Lee?
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's Andrew.
	Oh, hey, what's up?
	What's up, Andrew?
	You can do a Shapiro versus Peterson debate, but Snot knows.
	Who's Snot knows?
	Oh, the Snot.
	Yeah, I thought that Dirty Trees.
	Shapiro is pro.
	Okay, wait, so hold on.
	So who's pro dirty with the trees?
	Shapiro's pro.
	Okay.
	Look, as long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't see any problem with molesting the trees.
	I mean, they can't consent.
	That means they can't say no.
	Well, that's really fucked up, you know?
	It's like, it's not about consent.
	It's about whether or not there's a hole that's appropriate for your wiener.
	It's like, fuck!
	Jordan sounded like so.
	You forgot to do this.
	It's like you're going up there in the woods, molesting the trees in the bark.
	Well, I don't see any problem with it.
	I mean, liberty above all, right?
	Yeah, I guess just.
	The Venom was amazing.
	It's indistinguishable.
	We got to get Jordan Peterson on the show.
	Please, God.
	You could.
	I reached out.
	I tried to get Michaela on the show.
	Now you just got to keep bugging them.
	I think we need Rachel Wilson to debate Michaela Peterson.
	That would be a good episode.
	That wouldn't be good.
	That would be dope.
	Okay, let's see what else we have to get through.
	Let me just double check my notes here.
	Do you have a question you want to pose to the panel?
	I was hoping to get a super anti-patriarch, but none of you ladies took the position.
	So, you know, like, you know, you get this common, like, kill the patriarchy and the patriarchy.
	I was betting that that was going to come up, but it didn't come up.
	So I'm at a loss for words.
	When you said, you know, you sound like Jordan again, it's like you're still in a role.
	No, no.
	Hmm.
	Cool story.
	Sorry, hold on.
	I'm still trying to find the thing.
	I had like a million things I wanted at freaking, not a million things, but let me shout out a couple people really quick.
	Guys, if you want 100% of your contribution to go towards us, Venmo Cash App Whateverpod, we have Colin.
	No, I already did MC Rocker.
	Thank you for the 12.
	Matt, thank you for the five.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Mercy Booku.
	Let's see here.
	One sec, guys.
	Wait.
	Okay.
	What?
	Can you read this one, Tiffany?
	Me and my bros think that chair one is a five, chair three is a five.
	Chair four is a five.
	Chair five is a five.
	The one that rage quit had nice booba and cake, but her crazy obnoxious attitude put her out of three.
	Chair two, hell to the no-no.
	Wow.
	No.
	Pasty George, thank you for the Canadian 20 men.
	Anybody want to respond?
	He's calling y'all fives.
	I don't care what he calls me.
	Yeah, I don't really care anybody that's.
	Wait, can you rate me?
	Are you down to rate me on a scale of one to ten?
	You want me to rate you?
	Rate me.
	Rate me.
	My looks.
	I did a savior, Vogel.
	I said rate.
	Rate.
	It's just my tongue that makes it sound like I'm not saying the correct words.
	But I don't know, man.
	Go ahead.
	I won't be offended.
	Like, and so I'm just judging you off of your looks, right?
	So you're not going to be offended.
	No, you can, you can tell me I'm a one.
	I won't be offended.
	Go ahead.
	No, I think you're pretty average.
	So like a five.
	But you're 15, right?
	Yeah.
	So like you'd be settling for me.
	I don't see it as that, no.
	But you're 15.
	It doesn't matter.
	So you're like, that's 10 points difference.
	It doesn't matter.
	You'd be settling in looks, though.
	I mean, if you see it that way, I don't really value looks like that.
	How many wigs do you have?
	Multiple.
	Like how many, though?
	I don't know.
	Like, I have like 10, 12.
	Is it all like my little pony stuff?
	Or do you have like a normal, like a normal?
	Do you ever do like a normal day?
	No.
	Never.
	Not really, no.
	During that rare.
	Gifted 10 subs.
	Thank you so much for the gifted 10 subs.
	Durin dolls.
	Am I saying your shit right, dude?
	Am I saying your name right?
	I might be fucking that up real bad.
	We have Ness NYC Tiffany.
	On the bare question, what bias women usually don't understand?
	The majority of essays happen with someone she knows.
	Not strangers.
	Also, Ray Twitter proves higher education is a sin.
	Oh, dude, she has to do it.
	I was going to say that.
	In USE, too.
	That's a yikes, actually.
	Wait, what did what did she have her master?
	Public policy or what was it?
	Administration?
	Public administration.
	God damn, she ain't.
	Poetry, though.
	Let's hope she's never administrating something.
	Can I just say something?
	I just think that that's bullshit about like it just being typically someone you know.
	It's like it could literally be anyone.
	It doesn't matter if you know them or not.
	It's just the majority.
	I don't.
	It's like my personal experience is like people I don't know either.
	You know what I mean?
	And like I said before, it's for me personally, it's been men and women, you know?
	So it's not like it's not that simple to me.
	I'm sorry, what?
	Well, you kind of, you were talking about essay.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	But you do give off a kind of a vibe that says, I don't really care in general about anything.
	That's not true.
	We'll go off.
	I'm just saying, like, your view is like, if you hold a view that you just annihilate all human beings, you don't really value life.
	I don't think you really value your own life that much.
	And so.
	I value my life, yeah.
	But you don't value human life.
	Because you'd be willing.
	You said in this podcast, you'd be willing to annihilate all of us.
	You don't care.
	So why would the aggressor, you know, if you gave off that sort of vibe to people, why would they, why wouldn't they take advantage of it?
	I mean, I don't care to appeal to other people that treat me like shit.
	And majority of people have treated me like shit, so I don't really care.
	Has Jim Bob treated you like shit?
	I'm sure that he's keeping whatever thoughts he has about himself.
	Thoughts?
	Yeah, whatever.
	No, actually, the first thing I thought about was I think I was like, oh, this person has probably been through a whole lot.
	Yeah, I don't like that misconception.
	That's also like a, I don't know.
	Is it true though?
	I mean, I've been through a lot, but like a lot that other people have.
	I've got to look at like people who look like me and think.
	Oh, you have to add this to trauma.
	Like, oh, this is all because it's just trauma.
	Well, it just happens to be pretty consistent, when people sort of like what I would consider some sort of like Attack on their their, their face, like people who do full face tattoos, or like What you're doing to your face, I think that's like a communication to the world, and so I could either be right or wrong, But what I perceive is oh, this person is like been through a lot of shit.
	Yeah, that's what I get, like it's not wrong that I've not been through a lot of shit, but I just think that if you're basing your perspective off of what I look like, I just think that you're wrong, and I also think that's coming from a negative perspective.
	Yeah, but if I'm I can't be right and wrong.
	I asked you am I right and you said yes.
	Well, I mean, I've been through a lot, but that doesn't mean just because I look like this, that, because I know people who also been through a lot and they don't look anything like me.
	So it doesn't matter.
	What I'm saying is that the way that you're perceiving me for just how I'm looking is actually offensive.
	What do you mean?
	You don't expect people to look at you and have a particular reaction?
	No, because I don't look at other people and think that way.
	That's not what determines it.
	If you particularly look a certain way and on purpose, present yourself in a way that's completely atypical, you're actually acting like it's some sort of like transgression for people to go, oh.
	Because how I see is that whenever I look normal, people were still bullying me and treating me like shit no matter what.
	So I feel like if you're going to just bully me no matter what, I might as well just look the way that I that.
	Yeah, that's kind of what I picked up.
	Like you gave me the space to look like this.
	So now you're saying, because I look like this, now like I deserve like this type of treatment.
	Like I'm saying, it's just always been that way.
	So it doesn't really matter what I look like.
	I'm saying that that's what I picked up from you.
	I could either be right or wrong.
	I'm totally fine being wrong, but my experience was, oh, this person is communicating something to us with the way they look.
	And the communication is the communication of how I look is just I like art.
	I don't think that's true.
	I think it's I think the communication is I don't give a fuck.
	No, I give a fuck.
	You don't you give a fuck, but in this podcast, you said you'd be totally fine annihilating all humans.
	Yeah.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	I give a fuck about myself.
	Yeah, that's the vibe I got.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm not understanding what you're asking.
	So you only care about yourself?
	Um, at this point, for the most part, yeah, like, I don't really care about other people that much.
	Yeah, that's exactly the vibe I got.
	But you're saying that I don't give a fuck about myself.
	No, I said you just don't give a fuck.
	If you don't give a fuck about it.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Like, what are you saying?
	If you don't give a fuck about anybody, about yourself, why should anyone give a fuck about you?
	Because other people have already treated me like they didn't give a fuck about me.
	So why should I give a fuck about other people?
	The last time I came here, the people that I was talking to were saying, like, oh, it feels like you're giving too much of yourself to other people and not really did it at all, which I'm a nice person.
	It doesn't matter whatever, how other people perceive me or whatever.
	But like, at the end of the day, like, I just get treated like crap no matter what.
	I think you are a nice person.
	I just think you're hurting.
	I'm not.
	Okay, whatever.
	I could say the same thing with you wearing that shirt, but touche.
	Wow, that was a roast.
	So Tiffany, what do you think about Sammy?
	A typical woman.
	Typical?
	She's not like special or anything?
	She's just typical to you?
	I mean, she does only fans, so I mean.
	Sammy, are you going to let her talk to you like that?
	It's all right.
	In her head, she's in the top 1%, and I'm in the top 1% on OF.
	So it's boom.
	Mic drop, Tiffany.
	How do you feel about that?
	Most women are leftists, so I mean, it doesn't really make your top 1%.
	Tiffany, will you arm wrestle Sammy?
	No.
	Sammy's strong.
	Why not?
	You think she's going to beat you?
	How much is it?
	I mean, you kind of like, the weight class is different.
	Yeah, you're a lot skinnier than me, like you said.
	So you might be a little too weak.
	Sammy and Sammy, you're probably lighter.
	You're probably lighter than she is.
	Yeah, probably.
	Sorry, this is so funny.
	I'm probably where she wants to be at.
	Would you prefer, like, is that your goal weight?
	How much do you wear?
	Like, 93.
	But I'm also a lot shorter, so it kind of.
	I feel like you have that like a lot of people.
	I don't want to be 93.
	I feel like you have like XAR strength.
	No, yeah, they actually do a lot of sports.
	I mean, gingers are super strong.
	Yeah.
	Redheads?
	Super.
	I stay away from redheads.
	I don't even let my kids play with them.
	You said you fight or do wrestling?
	I had a crackhead told me about Nuffle.
	I did gymnastics and softball and the simple stuff.
	That's dope.
	Anyway.
	I had a crackhead told me about Nuffle and Theory, and it was just like this whole thing about gingers and how they're fallen angels and shit.
	I usually don't listen to crackheads, but they are on to something.
	They are on to something good.
	Probably.
	All right, guys.
	Last call on the super chats.
	Last call.
	We'll read these.
	We'll let a few more come through, then we're going to wrap.
	Tiffany, do us the favors.
	Made by Jim Bob, one of the best parts of California's In-N-Out Burgers.
	I hope you go.
	Thank you for the show, Brian.
	I love the impressions.
	Jim Bob.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Yeah, I lived in LA for 15 years, but the cool thing is where I am in Colorado, we got a brand new In-N-Out Burger.
	Appreciate that.
	Let's go.
	Hell yeah.
	Got this one from Crucible from Andrew.
	Jim Bob Shapiro versus Nasa Tard on why tree boning in Mars is appropriate due to the loss of the technology.
	What's going on, Andrew?
	Andrew.
	I think he was mad that I called him.
	It is Andrew.
	I think he was mad that I called him a big mouth character.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	So, look, if we make it to Mars and we find life, the best thing to do is procreate, even if it's a tree.
	Well, I don't think that that's possible.
	We should do that.
	You guys wouldn't know who this is.
	His name is Don Pettit.
	I don't think you should touch a degle tree like that, Bad Shapiro.
	You're a sexic man.
	Thanks, Andrew.
	Appreciate that.
	Andrew's definitely shit face, though, by the way.
	There's no way he's not.
	Look at that spelling.
	I mean, look at that.
	Yeah, he's definitely scuffed.
	Kat says, stats don't care about personal experience.
	Yo, Kat, thank you for the super chat.
	Appreciate it.
	JX and Brian, I petition for whatever flannel shirtline.
	Yeah, that would be cool.
	Honestly, though, merch is, I don't know, merch is kind of like low priority for us, but hey, shop.whatever.com if you want to get some merch.
	But yeah, we kind of like don't really pryo the merch too much.
	All right.
	$20 super chat roast via YouTube.
	Final call, guys.
	We're going to get this wrapped up here momentarily.
	Wow, this might be one of our shortest.
	I'll know the last time.
	I'm going to try to just end it.
	Sub six hours.
	That's super short.
	You guys are lucky.
	Lucking out, actually, tonight.
	Hey, it's good.
	If that girl was still there, though, it would have been like a 10-hour show.
	I actually don't mind having It's been a pretty crazy couple weeks I don't mind a little shorter show.
	Yo, Picara, thank you for the Prime Man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Picara.
	All right.
	Any final thoughts from any of the panelists before we get this wrapped up?
	Final thoughts?
	Speak now.
	Any topic?
	Final thoughts?
	Anybody?
	Go follow me at MadeByjim Bob on every platform.
	Go follow Jim Bob.
	Go follow Tiffany's Feet Finder.
	Follow my TikTok.
	Follow Val's Instagram.
	You gotta call it Tumblr or some shit.
	I don't know.
	I did.
	Yikes.
	I'm on TikTok as Alienspoors and I'm on Instagram as Alien.
	Do you do like TikTok live streams where you just talk?
	Yeah.
	I just go to work and then I turn that shit on and talk to people.
	Love it.
	Okay, I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give a call to action.
	Would you, Sammy, consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
	For what?
	Your soul.
	Are you going to pay my bills or what is no?
	But I hear North Carolina has a Popeyes.
	I have already been there.
	They've got a Waffle House.
	I have already been there for OF.
	So I've already done all that shit.
	Sonic?
	However.
	Do they have Sonic in North Carolina?
	Sonic in Florida, where I'm from.
	I don't think there's Sonic in California, is there?
	I don't know.
	There is.
	I've never had Sonic.
	I don't know.
	I honestly, if you want my opinion, dude, I don't view it as sex work, but that's because I don't post like corn and stuff like that.
	Like my OF isn't that.
	Like, you can't go on there.
	There's no BG content?
	Not posted.
	There's no posted?
	No.
	Ah, so you send it in the DM.
	It's a little different, though.
	Yeah, you've sold videos of you having sex with men on camera.
	No, don't say men plural.
	Just my boyfriend.
	I don't do nothing.
	Amen.
	Okay, fine.
	Amen.
	So just one guy.
	Singular.
	But it's not.
	I literally have enough tapes I can count on one hand.
	Like literally like four or three.
	Like I don't have like, that's not my whole profile.
	Yeah, but you sell them.
	Okay, but my profile is.
	That's sex work.
	The profile is me.
	Even if you didn't do that, it would be sexy.
	Sure.
	I did sex work five times.
	And guess what?
	I'm still.
	No, it's not that you did it five times.
	You are a sex worker.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	If that's what you want to call it.
	It's literally sex work.
	If that is what you want to call it.
	Okay.
	Would you consider stopping sex work tonight?
	Right now?
	On the show?
	For what, dude?
	Your soul.
	I don't have one.
	I'm Ginger for one.
	That's a fair point.
	She does have a point.
	And I mean, honestly, like, it's not even just because I don't want to go back to working because I loved working.
	I hated having to quit my job.
	Because I only quit my job like literally a month and a half ago to like continue.
	Wait, remind me, how long have you been doing OF?
	Since December.
	So about four months.
	Four months?
	It's the only reason that it just helps with money and you don't care at this point what the so honestly, I really don't care.
	I view it as I am like what's the word for it?
	Don't say poetry.
	No.
	But I'm taking advantage, you know, of what is literally already on my social media.
	The comments I get, you know, the stuff people say.
	I feel like my niche is people think I'm fucking 14.
	I don't understand why.
	But they do.
	Don't blame me for that.
	I have a problem with it too.
	But you're playing into it.
	No, I'm not.
	You just admitted that like.
	I said, no, no, no.
	What I was going to say is that those comments are there anyway.
	So it's either I profit off of it and I just make an account and I get paid.
	You're playing it.
	Or I don't.
	Well, it's like...
	It'll happen anyway.
	So it's not that I make money off of it or I sit there and make shit no matter what.
	No, no, porn doesn't.
	No, the comments don't make you create content.
	For instance, no, I wasn't saying that.
	I'm saying like people saying certain things about me are always going to be there.
	So no matter what content I do, it's going to be the same outcome no matter what.
	So it's I profit off of it and I take advantage of it rather than just putting it at home.
	You can pretend to be a dwarf and make just as funny good content that's not pornography.
	My content's not weird.
	My content has like nothing to do with that stuff, really.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I don't try to post like that.
	I think you should just present yourself as a dwarf and do fun things that are wholesome.
	And I try to do my car stuff.
	And then all the little dwarfs who are the real dwarfs, they're going to say they're the real ones.
	They're going to come after you.
	Then you create this big, huge, like drama.
	Wait, that's smart.
	Seriously, you can be a dwarf, red-headed ginger dwarf bakes cakes.
	You don't have to sell sex.
	You just have to make enemies with the real dwarfs.
	Be the Shirley Temple of Dwarfs.
	Pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	For sure.
	You don't need to do that stuff.
	Too lazy to work is crazy.
	Mr. Jimmy says chair one is just too lazy to work.
	Easier to be a hoe for money.
	Yep.
	Actually, I worked till I was like 15 until now.
	I grew up from fucking nothing and like literally lived in a shed by myself.
	And now I live completely on my own with two cars, one a Supra, one a Toyota 86.
	I'm doing perfectly.
	You sound like Wes Watson, right?
	I am on the track to make everything I have assets, everything I own, you know, is going to benefit from me.
	But don't worry about it.
	It's okay.
	Wait, do you, your boyfriend helps you out with shooting the stuff?
	Does he get some of it?
	He gets, I mean, he works, so he does his own stuff that he likes to do because he likes automotive too.
	But does he take the photo?
	Does he blur his face?
	No.
	Has it already started that he's saying, hey, what about this idea?
	No.
	New chicks.
	No, it's all my idea.
	He doesn't see any problem with it, but he's old enough.
	I think he's kind of past that.
	So he's into dwarfs, basically.
	Sure, and I'm into black men, so we get along very well.
	I don't see any problem with what I do because it's easy.
	And I think the world gets mad because it's easy.
	And I really don't give a fuck.
	So yeah, you guys can work, or I wouldn't say you, because you don't necessarily be.
	I just want you to make funny dwarfs.
	Whoever does, though, like most people who like say stuff about it, they go and then they work 50 hours working for some man who tells them what to do.
	I just think you'd be less defensive if you made dwarf-centric content.
	You may be right.
	Like.
	No, he's right.
	Yeah.
	I should just face it.
	He's not wrong.
	Pretend to be a dwarf.
	Wait, of the 11 bodies, how many of them are black guys?
	Three.
	Oh, okay.
	So you've...
	Yeah.
	You've had variety.
	Yeah, Puerto Ricans.
	I've only dated one white guy, which was the guy who beat the hell out of me.
	That's why I don't like them no more.
	They do be doing that.
	I'm just saying, understandable.
	Some of them do.
	Strong.
	Yeah.
	Asian?
	Um, I've never dated an Asian guy, but I love...
	Okay, this is not towards you, girl.
	But...
	But my type and women, I love Asian women.
	I literally did a collab with this Asian girl, but she was trash.
	She was the worst person I've ever met in my entire life.
	And she was on here.
	That one girl I told you about.
	Which girl?
	Kenna.
	That one girl.
	Oh, she's know her?
	I mean, what are the fucking shit?
	Oh, that's.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I know who you're talking about.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We literally, we collabed.
	We split everything like price or whatever.
	We go to Colorado.
	Then we go to Miami for two weeks.
	Did it smell?
	It's a two-week trick.
	Did it smell?
	Listen to this shit.
	First of all, she kisses like this.
	What the fuck is even that?
	What the fuck is even that?
	I have a screenshot to prove it.
	I am not lying on this.
	Then, so it seemed like, you know, she really wanted, like, she was like, our content was different.
	Hers was extreme.
	Hers was, hey, I do this, this, this, this.
	Mine's not.
	Mine's mediocre.
	Mine's light work.
	It's not crazy shit.
	So, I mean, so we're doing fine.
	And I go, I'm in Miami.
	I see a Supra that's in my budget.
	And I go and I buy a fucking Toyota Supra.
	And she's pissed off and arguing with her boyfriend there.
	And I'm like, hey, I'm sorry.
	Like, I don't mean to keep you here for that long.
	Like, I really didn't mean to keep you here.
	It's a dealership.
	And then she goes home.
	Oh, my God.
	Who the hell?
	Do you know how to drive stick shift?
	Yeah, I can drive five speed, six speed.
	Okay, that's what's important.
	Yeah, and it's funny you put that whenever you're the one who fucking asked me.
	But anyways, no, then, um, no, then let me tell you.
	Basically, she flew home because she got pissed.
	I bought a car and made a video saying I wanted to be her, but I actually would hate to even look like her, act like her.
	So, yeah, that's kind of what happened.
	And we're never gonna collab again, obviously.
	So, yeah, damn, I'm so sorry.
	No, it's okay, but she was on here and she was saying that like girls deserve to get paid to just be hot.
	See, I don't agree with that.
	Like, I actually put money and work into my content.
	Now, like, I still have to go around like all of this, dude.
	Like, who do you think paid for this trip?
	I literally funded all this myself.
	I've been here for the last week and a half.
	You know what I mean?
	So, it's like I can do things on my own.
	I've done it on my own.
	It's not just about Hoorah and shit show.
	So, let's go.
	Yeah.
	Do you think Toyota Supers are that good of cars, though?
	The newer ones are kind of iffy.
	I don't know yet because I just got one, but the BMW engine does throw me off a little bit.
	It scares me.
	But when you have Toyota, they're combing through everything.
	Maybe it'll be reliable.
	But I did get the full engine and drive train warranty.
	So you just produced more better content than any pornography.
	Just a midget with red hair talking about better, but I just don't produce like corn.
	Like, you know, I like to make it seem like my viewers and my subscribers are getting an inside view of my personal life.
	Not just, hey, this is me with my shirt.
	Are you?
	Do you race my car?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever considered doing raising kids?
	What?
	You know, like, you know, kids race little tiny when they get trained to do F1 racing.
	They start with like little Texas car.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, no, I did a little something like that.
	You know, there's actually an Airbnb in California that's built for that.
	It has a track all around it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Natalia gifted 50 whatever memberships.
	Natalia, guys, W's in the chat for Natalia, guys.
	Thank you so much, Natalia.
	Welcome back.
	Good to see you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Natalia.
	Guys, we need some W's in the chat for Natalia.
	50 gift.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Natalia is on fire.
	Oh, Andrew, you missed one.
	He's Kat.
	Oh, my God.
	She gifted 50.
	Oh, it's like they're one-upping each other.
	Kat, Natalia.
	Pedal.
	Natalia, Kat.
	Thank you, Kat.
	Really appreciate it.
	The gifted 50 whatever memberships.
	W's in the chat for Kat.
	And then we have Tiffany, can you read this one?
	He said Jim Bob must read.
	Oh, okay, my best.
	My name is Jim Bob.
	You can find me at Made by Jim Bob channel on YouTube and all other platforms.
	I'm a brilliant artist, comic, impressionist, musician, and I'm terrible at marketing.
	Thanks, Andrew.
	All right, we have, hold on.
	Tiffany, can you read this one?
	You're dumb if you think any modern politician cares about you.
	I'm rolling solo at this point because most people suck.
	Start your own business.
	Support small/slash local businesses.
	F greedy corporations.
	Good luck, Crisis King.
	Archer, thank you so much for the super chat, man.
	Ask Sammy about the roaster oven.
	What's this?
	I have no idea.
	I have literally no idea what that means.
	What is the roaster oven?
	Oh, wait.
	It's because I blew up.
	That's it's because I blew up my sister's toaster oven.
	That's my sister.
	That's your sister.
	Wait, who's Dan?
	That's her husband, Dan.
	Oh, I blew up her toaster oven, babysitting.
	Damn, what the hell?
	Damn, you need to tell us some more shit that like some more property damage that she's done to you guys because this sounds abusive.
	This is like an abusive relationship.
	You just like fucking up her toaster oven.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	Cool story, bro.
	I don't believe you chair one from Mr. Jimmy.
	That $20 was worth saying that, wasn't it?
	I think it was super worth it.
	Super fun.
	Now he's going to blast like five in a row talking shit.
	Watch out.
	Okay, Miyamoto Musashi says, chair one.
	How exactly does one make it to the top 1% of OF while only sending sparse videos to people in DM seems a little sus because I know how to market and I know how to sell by value, not price.
	Wow.
	I was already in sales before OF.
	You don't think I know how to sell some shit?
	The fuck?
	The fuck?
	Is that how they talk in North Carolina?
	Is that North Carolina?
	Florida.
	Oh, Florida.
	Are you?
	Where are you from?
	The mean streets of.
	No, I'm from like North Central Florida.
	So like Orlando.
	Boca Raton.
	What?
	What?
	That was not English.
	Boca.
	You don't know Boca Raton?
	Florida?
	I have no idea.
	Wait, hold on.
	You're from.
	I've been to Florida once.
	North Central Florida.
	So have you heard of Boca Rattan?
	I have no idea what that is.
	Who here has heard of Boca?
	Rattan.
	Am I saying it wrong?
	Maybe a little bit.
	You're from Florida and you don't know about Boca?
	What a dumbass.
	I'm just kidding.
	I hate when people do that.
	I'm like, wait, you hate when people, what?
	It's like, I'm not in comedy because I haven't heard of something.
	Damn it.
	You've never seen a movie?
	Never mind.
	It's so funny how.
	Yeah, it's funny how it's like a phenomenon where it blows the other person's mind like universally, where they're like, you just haven't seen it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Hold on.
	That's like if I lived in California my entire life and I never heard of Los Angeles.
	Maybe that's not a perfect one-to-one comparison.
	Unless you're a really popular city, though.
	And that's like saying I don't know Orlando.
	Then I've never, I've lived in California my whole life and I've never heard of Santa Cruz.
	Sure, but I don't know.
	That's probably comparable.
	Sure.
	You're from Florida.
	And it's like with anything.
	I just, it's like with anything.
	It's like a movie.
	I guess.
	It is.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Val.
	Tell us how you feel.
	That's how I feel.
	Tell us how you really feel, Val.
	I'm just going to keep going.
	All right, I'm pretty sure that's it.
	Just double checking, making sure we got everything all in the clear here.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	What the?
	Oh my God, I pinned the wrong thing.
	Oh my goodness.
	I pinned the wrong thing, like the video.
	Hold on, let me do that.
	God bless.
	What did I pin from John William?
	God bless Rachel and Pringford.
	Okay, I don't know why I pinned that.
	I mean, it's good.
	God bless Rachel, but I don't know why I accidentally pinned that.
	Okay, so are you willing to quit OF or no?
	Or is that just a no-go?
	No, I'm okay.
	Actually, if you want to sub link an Instagram bio, disavow.
	Okay, GG.
	Well played.
	Wait.
	Well played.
	Wait, hold on.
	GG.
	Well played.
	Oh my God.
	Totally scuffed that.
	Okay.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you guys for tuning in tonight.
	I really appreciate it.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Thank you to the wonderful panel.
	You guys made it to the end of the show.
	This is one of our shortest shows in a very long time.
	So congratulations, guys.
	I don't know if that's a compliment, though.
	Maybe that personally.
	You guys are so lacking conversationally that this show is our shortest in like over a year.
	So congrats.
	I'm glad we made it to the end.
	Good job, guys.
	Really proud of you.
	Okay.
	We will be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07's in the chat.
	Let me just double check, make sure we're all good here on everything.
	One moment, guys.
	Yo, chat.
	I have a question for you.
	I have a question.
	Shit, what is it?
	I feel left out.
	Damn, there was like something I had to ask, but I'm just forgetting it.
	And it's going to kill me if I don't ask it.
	Let me just double check my notes here really quick.
	Tiffany, are you a racist?
	I don't know why.
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Cool.
	Thank you for your contribution, Tiffany.
	Let's see.
	Okay, we did Val's stuff.
	We did Alien.
	We did Sammy.
	Not in that way.
	Okay, well, I'm just going to have to be upset that I forgot whatever I was going to.
	There's some sort of topic that we had.
	Wait, there's a picture.
	Wait.
	Okay, no, we did that.
	We did that.
	Did this?
	Okay, all right.
	Well, guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	One sec.
	Sorry that this is really awkward now because I'm trying to.
	I'm trying to.
	There's something I'm forgetting.
	Did I talk about Big Labia?
	Yeah, I did.
	I talked about Big Liaia.
	Only date.
	Yeah.
	Not ad nauseum.
	There's a very limited.
	All right, guys.
	Like the video, please.
	On your way out.
	Thank you again, guys, for tuning in.
	Guys, can I see some 07s in the chat?
	07s in the chat, boys.
	All right, guys.
	Good night.
	Good night.
	We will see you guys next Sunday.
	Good night, guys.
	Fuck it, we're going back, boys.
	Okay, Andrew just came in, you son of a gun.
	You were going to ask if I should move to Santa Barbara and become the official co-host of whatever, and we go to twice a week and make banger content.
	Well, I mean, to add on top of that, we're also going to get you consistent 1v1 debates, consistent 1v1 debates, if you get out here to Santa Barbara.
	Andrew Wilson, W's in the chat for Andrew Wilson, the Crucible.
	Thank you.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Okay, guys.
	Hope you guys have a good night.

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