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95 Body Count At 22?! Whatever Hater LAWSUIT?! Single Mom Wants 6ft $250,000/Year Man?! Elon Musk Baby Mama Drama?! | Dating Talk #230

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	Black was she.
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	I'll get a DNA test done and I'll get back to you on that.
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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, occupation, and education.
	Go ahead.
	Into the mic.
	My name is Aaliyah.
	I'm 25.
	I live in LA.
	And I do UGC, which is like marketing for brands.
	And I have a bachelor's in metaphysics.
	A bachelor's in metaphysics?
	Yeah.
	Bachelor of Science or Bachelor of Art?
	Bachelor of Science.
	In metaphysics.
	Where did you go to school for that?
	University of Metaphysics.
	It's online.
	It's an online?
	Yeah.
	So what's like, and did you do freshman, sophomore, junior, senior year there?
	It was just like by classes, like getting all your classes done.
	How many credits does it take to get a.
	I don't know.
	When did you get your bachelor's in metaphysics?
	Last year.
	Last year.
	Yeah.
	How long from the date you started to the date you got your bachelor's?
	How long did it take?
	It's self-paced, so it took me like three years.
	Three years.
	Okay.
	What is metaphysics, for those who don't know?
	Yeah, so it's like the physics of the unknown or like the unseen.
	So there's like chapters on dreams, chapters on how dolphins like communicate.
	Wait, how dolphins?
	Dolphin communication.
	We've had this on the show before.
	We've talked about it.
	What else?
	Native American studies.
	Psychic gifts.
	Are you a psychic?
	I feel like we all kind of can be.
	Yeah, but are you?
	I'm a psych, because I'm a psychic.
	Yeah, I used to coach women on, yeah, like psychic stuff, tarot.
	Okay.
	But that's what you learned in the university?
	Well, I did that for six years, and then I also, yeah, studied that as well.
	Were you also a professor at the university?
	It sounds like you have experience.
	No.
	No, I just had my own business.
	How much does it cost to get it?
	Because I'm kind of interested.
	How much does it cost to get a like the whole bachelor's in metaphysics thing?
	I think I applied for like the like the discount for it and it was like $1,500.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	Yeah.
	Wait, for like the whole thing.
	Into the mic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	That's great.
	Okay.
	And you also do OF, is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How long have you been doing OF for?
	Off and on for like two or three years.
	Two or three years?
	Okay.
	And tell me, I'm just curious.
	I need more info about the metaphysics thing.
	Tell me about it.
	Like my coaching aspect of it.
	Yeah.
	Like what was, did you like if there was a quiz, you took quizzes?
	Were there quizzes?
	Yeah, there would be quizzes after every chapter.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What's the question that stumped you?
	I think afterwards we would have to listen to meditations and then have to give insight on what the meditation brought us.
	Okay.
	And I would always try and like write these like existential, transcendental, like epic experiences that I had.
	So yeah, I think just having to.
	Did you ever get an F in anything?
	No.
	Like I feel like you're like a C in meditation.
	Like a C, to be nice.
	Average meditator.
	Like you're like C plus in meditation.
	But like in like the physics and like Reiki, I think you've scored pretty high.
	Yeah.
	Like A, A minus, maybe?
	Yeah, I would say average A minus.
	Did you do any Reiki, Reiki?
	How do you, what is that?
	Reiki?
	I've done Reiki before, like, had it done and done it for others as well.
	Like, did you learn about like heart chakras and that shit?
	Yeah.
	But I also had like my spiritual awakening at 16 and was like hardcore in that world.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I learned all of that kind of prior.
	You have your solar return still coming.
	Yeah.
	I do.
	Do you do any what's it called?
	Wait, wait, what's it called?
	The oh, psychedelics.
	Have I done that?
	Well, because you said you had spiritual awakening at 16, so was it like induced by psychedelics?
	Kind of.
	Like I had done them before, but it was more so doing shadow work and like mirror shadow work.
	Wait, shadow work?
	What is that?
	And what was it?
	Neo shadow work?
	Mirror.
	Mirror shadow.
	Whoa.
	What is shadow work?
	Shadow work is going into your subconscious and the parts of you that Sorry, go ahead The parts that you're either like insecure on or that hold you back in life, like limiting beliefs.
	What life?
	Hold you back and limiting beliefs.
	Limiting beliefs.
	Is anybody else here like a psychic or oracle or both of you guys?
	Shut.
	Come on.
	Really?
	Wow, we have a trifecta of spiritual ladies here.
	That's dope.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Can I identify it as Native American?
	No.
	If you're Elizabeth Warren, you can.
	Oh, that's true.
	Yeah.
	You have like a 1/16th of a 64th of a percent.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll get more.
	I guess we can get more into some of that stuff later.
	What about you?
	Hi, I go by Daisy.
	Welcome.
	I'm 30 years old.
	I was born and raised in China, living in New York.
	Okay.
	I have a college degree, studied fashion design.
	All right.
	Anything?
	What's the college degree in?
	Is it in fashion design?
	Fashion designer.
	Okay.
	And what do you do for work?
	I'm a content creator.
	OF?
	Yes.
	And I have a jewelry brand.
	Yeah, I just started my podcast.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Adriana.
	I'm from Boston.
	I live in LA now.
	I'm 22.
	I'm a professional dancer, dance teacher, actress, entertainer.
	I do it all, you know.
	Nice, nice.
	And I have a bachelor's in psychology and biology.
	Is it a double major or like major minor?
	Double major.
	Okay.
	Very cool.
	What about you?
	I am Nicole.
	I'm also from Boston.
	You're both from Boston?
	We grew up together.
	Wait, you guys need, for the rest of the show, need to lay on the thickest Boston accent.
	Just do, can you do a Boston accent?
	No, my dad's is really bad.
	Mine only comes out if I'm drunk or like really angry.
	That's literally when it comes out.
	How does it sound?
	Can you give us a demo?
	You take this one, girl.
	You got a good, you got a good one?
	I don't know.
	No, I because I was, I grew up more on like the Wester side.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Is there a certain part of Boston that is more Southeast?
	Yeah, like that's where they actually have the accent.
	Like, I feel like there's like a misconception with the accent.
	Like, not a lot of people have it.
	Like, I rarely saw people have it, like, living there.
	I wonder if it's just maybe as time goes on, it's becoming more diminished.
	I've definitely lost it.
	I used to have a little bit, but I've definitely lost it because I moved like, what, six or seven?
	Yeah, when I first moved here, I worked at a restaurant, and like customers would pick up on it pretty frequently.
	But I feel like the longer I've been here, nobody can tell.
	I almost wonder, even people who stay in Boston, it's just becoming maybe less common because like there's more the influence is more media driven when it comes to like what you're exposed to in terms of what you're actually listening.
	If before there was like mass amounts of media consumption, like you heard people speak, it was people in your geographic area.
	Yeah.
	And you would maybe pick up on their accent.
	So I wonder if, like in New York, less people have the New York accent.
	Yeah, I know some people from New York who don't have like the New York accent.
	So.
	So age?
	22.
	Okay.
	School?
	I went to ASU for Earth and Environmental Sciences.
	You got your bachelor's?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Anything else?
	No, that's it.
	Minor economics.
	And then what do you do for work again?
	I do social media.
	Social media?
	OF?
	No.
	Okay, just content stuff.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	What about you?
	My name is Lindsay.
	I am probably the oldest person here.
	I'm 36 years old.
	I am from Wisconsin.
	Oh, you have to do a Wisconsin accent.
	I know.
	I'll try to bring it in.
	We are not the Oyubachas, though.
	That's Minnesota.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	I majored in journalism, but then more communications because print journalism was pretty much a dying breed.
	And I currently am a sales representative for a wholesale produce distributor.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	Very cool.
	What about you?
	I'm a Frada Taklai.
	I'm from Houston, Texas.
	I'm 18 years old and I go to UCSB.
	All right.
	What are you studying at UCSB?
	I'm a biology major.
	You want to become a doctor?
	Yeah, I want to be an anesthesiologist.
	Okay, they make good money.
	Anesthesiologist.
	All right.
	And so your bio, you said, right?
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	Are you in a sorority?
	No.
	No.
	Are you going to join one?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Dilata from Italy.
	I'm 29, but I'm based in Valencia, Spain.
	And I graduated as an English teacher for kindergarten, but I always worked as PA, mainly when I used to live in Shanghai, China.
	Okay, so you speak a lot of languages then?
	Yeah, but I guess it's something that Europeans just have to do.
	That's not true.
	You speak Chinese.
	Well, yeah.
	Also that.
	That's like a plus.
	But French, Spanish, Italian, like, since we're close to Switzerland, they're all together.
	Tupac Français.
	Mui je le pas, tousi?
	Justempe, patre bien, mêtes.
	No, me cévant?
	Cévant?
	Merci.
	Merci.
	Cébien, sir.
	Yeah, I was, I speak it a little bit.
	Where did you learn it?
	Canada?
	No.
	No, I was born in France, but then I moved to the United States.
	Really?
	So you're actually French?
	Yes, I am.
	I have dual citizenship, so yeah.
	But unfortunately, if I'd stayed there a bit longer, I think I'd be more proficient in French.
	But I think when you move that young, you obviously aren't as enmeshed in the language.
	Unfortunately, I'm not fluent, but that's cool that you speak so many different...
	But you do have a very good accent, even though...
	Like, I don't speak it like an American.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I do.
	A little bit, though.
	Maybe a little.
	Let's be honest, like, it's way worse my Italian accent over it.
	Everybody always make me notice my Italian accent behind my French.
	So yours is good.
	Very good.
	Eh bien, merci.
	Merci bouquu.
	Merci buku.
	I know, I'm saying it like an American sort of way.
	Buku.
	All right.
	And you speak Mandarin or Cantonese?
	No, I can't speak Cantonese.
	That's more for Hong Kong.
	I moved to Shanghai and I just learned their Chinese.
	I have some slang of Shanghainese because it's a bit different from the original Mandarin.
	They have a lot of R. R.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Shahanese is more like, let's say, where?
	Shanghainese is Nali.
	Beijing.
	Nar.
	Okay, interesting.
	Cool, cool.
	Well, welcome.
	What about you, Hunter?
	Hello, my name is Hunter Marie.
	I go by Hunty.
	Primarily, I am an oral maxillofacial surgery assistant.
	So I'm there three days a week.
	On the side, I manage some social media clients, specifically a non-profit that I've worked with for almost eight years now.
	It's an arts organization that primarily works with students who are incarcerated.
	And I've worked a lot of art projects like murals and stuff like that with them.
	And I also love to do makeup.
	I've had a passion to do makeup since I was like in elementary school and I love to do tutorials and create beautiful feminine content online.
	So that's where I'm at in my journey and I'm grateful to be here.
	Age?
	Oh, I'm 25 and I grew up on the border of Orange County and LA.
	So I kind of got the best of both worlds growing up.
	And for education, did you get your bachelor's or anything like that?
	I went to a trade school after graduating high school.
	That's for the like surgery assistants?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	Q, what about you?
	I'm the QPO.
	Behavioral scientist.
	I'm 32, 35 relationship coach, YouTuber, independent book author.
	Yeah.
	You look familiar.
	Do I?
	I will say that.
	Y'all probably see me on here around social media.
	No, like, I feel like I've met you in person.
	Same.
	I've never met neither one of you.
	Maybe in a dream.
	Maybe in a dream.
	How would you look that familiar?
	Yeah.
	Very dun dun dun.
	I think y'all seen me in passing.
	Probably on social media.
	Have you seen the Tupac biopic?
	That was him.
	He was, he played Tupac in the bio.
	No.
	Biopic.
	Tupac is handsome.
	You made a video of me.
	Oh, wait, really?
	You talk.
	Oh, yeah.
	You talk shit about my girl Daisy?
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Damn, Q, that's what I wait.
	No, hold up, hold up.
	I didn't know this.
	I didn't talk shit.
	No, I didn't talk shit.
	I actually said some pretty decent.
	What did you say?
	Well, basically, I was saying that she seemed more genuine in what she was saying happened based on, you know, the way she was behaving.
	So, yeah.
	Oh, I tried, yeah, I was trying to be, I was trying to be objective because a lot of people would say.
	Is there a but?
	No.
	There's no but?
	No but.
	You don't have a but?
	No buts.
	That's fair.
	Thank you.
	I have some butt.
	No buts.
	I have a couple buts.
	No buts.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Because I deal with that on the daily.
	I deal with relationship drama between couples on the daily.
	So I know what it looks like when a woman is, you know, sincere in the emotions that she's feeling or what she's been through.
	It's easy to read for me.
	So appreciate it.
	Rock and roll.
	A couple things, guys.
	I'm going to just pull up this chat while I have it.
	We have Christopher.
	Scott, it's metaphysical, not metaphysics.
	Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy.
	Wait, so did you say metaphysics or metaphysical?
	Well, it's metaphysics.
	I think she said metaphysics on the stage.
	She didn't say metaphysical.
	No, but he's saying metaphysics is a branch of philosophy.
	Wait, metaphysical?
	Metaphysical is like a descriptive word.
	Wait, meta?
	I'm going to Google this.
	Meta.
	I think it's pretty much the same thing.
	Relate.
	Wait, metaphysical says relating to metaphysics.
	It's the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Of or characteristic of the metaphysical poets.
	I mean, it is a branch of philosophy, though.
	Metaphysics, the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.
	Okay.
	That's interesting.
	Very cool.
	Thank you, though, for Christopher, for your chat.
	All right, so we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in, starting with you?
	I'm single about six months.
	The longest I've been, I want to say like almost 10 years.
	The longest 10 years?
	Yeah, I was like off and on a little bit.
	Okay.
	When did you guys meet?
	When we were in middle school.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you've been single for six months.
	Were you married?
	No.
	Ever married?
	I didn't believe in marriage at the time.
	Okay, you believe in it now, though?
	Yes.
	So you've been in an on-again, off-again relationship for 10 years.
	Is that the one that ended six months ago?
	No.
	Okay, how long was that relationship?
	Until I was like 21.
	How long was the relationship that ended six months ago?
	Like eight months.
	Eight months.
	Who broke up with who?
	It was kind of mutual.
	And then the 10-year on-and-off-again relationship, how many times was it on and off?
	Like three?
	Two?
	Three.
	Two or three.
	Who would initiate that?
	I would.
	Who would ask to come back or make it work or whatever?
	We would be friends, and then it would just kind of happen.
	But they would ask me to come.
	They?
	Yeah.
	Are they non-binary?
	No, it's a guy.
	Oh, it's a man.
	Okay.
	They.
	Okay.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	We're going to go back to those times then.
	Just got to clarify.
	Okay.
	And do you have any children?
	Yeah, I have one.
	One.
	And is it with the 10-year guy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How old's your kid?
	Yeah.
	Gonna be seven.
	Okay.
	Wait, you're 25.
	Yeah.
	So you had a kid when you were 18?
	19, yeah.
	19.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	You have something on this?
	Oh, it looked like you wanted that sort of thing.
	Yeah, I was trying to scoop a bit.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, I thought you were going to ask me.
	No, you're fine.
	You're fine.
	Okay, so you've been single for six months.
	Is there a guy in the picture currently?
	No.
	Nothing.
	Was there a rebound?
	No.
	There's nothing in the picture?
	No.
	Just like dates here and there, but.
	When's the last time you were on the date?
	Yesterday?
	No.
	You have a roster?
	No, I try not to do that.
	Try not to do the roster.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you, Daisy?
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	Single?
	How long have you been single for?
	About a year.
	One year.
	Wait, hold on.
	One year.
	Let me do the.
	Hold on.
	Let me just.
	I'm just.
	I mean, my last relationship was on March 2024.
	Who?
	Who was that with?
	Who?
	Guess.
	Q. Just kidding.
	Okay, so you were involved with Walter from the F podcast.
	Was that the guy you were dating a year ago?
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Like nine months.
	Nine months?
	Yeah.
	Was that with Walter or somebody else?
	Somebody else.
	That was my first love.
	Who?
	Walter?
	No.
	Or the nine-month guy?
	Nine-month guy.
	I see.
	Okay.
	You've been single for one year.
	Yeah.
	You don't have there's no guys you've been seeing?
	I've seen a couple people.
	Currently?
	Yeah.
	Currently, no.
	Well, you've oh, you've been seeing a couple people the past year.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We can probably do splits, by the way.
	So do you have a roster currently?
	What's a roster?
	Like multiple guys.
	Currently.
	Currently.
	No.
	I have no type of stuff.
	Or in the past year?
	Yes.
	You've had multiple guys?
	Yes.
	How many?
	Less than five.
	Less than five.
	Okay.
	So there's no guy you're talking to right now.
	I don't know, like chatting or anybody you feel.
	Carnal knowledge.
	Not really.
	No carnal knowledge.
	No.
	Okay.
	P in the V. No one's interesting.
	No one's interesting?
	Yeah.
	Do you have a type?
	I think so.
	What's your type?
	Apparently, I think physically, I prefer tall, dark hands.
	Oh, sorry, Q.
	Yeah, like, if you ask me physically, but that's not, like, that's not just.
	Is Q your type?
	He could be, because keep your hands off him.
	He's got a girlfriend.
	How dare you?
	Don't even talk like that.
	So would you date Q, though, if you're starting shit?
	If he's nice to me, yes.
	Would you.
	Q, would you?
	Would you.
	I can't say.
	I can't speak on hypotheticals.
	Probably not, though.
	Why?
	Because.
	And because what?
	Because I got a girlfriend.
	Oh, okay.
	That makes sense.
	I'm saying if you don't have a girlfriend.
	Well, I had to get to know you.
	Okay.
	I'm stringent when it comes to dating.
	It's really hard to become my girlfriend.
	Take a lot for me.
	I'm saying, like, go out on a date, not like actually.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah.
	Why are you shaking your head?
	I mean, he's a dating coach.
	It must be hard to.
	Do I have to tell?
	Do you have to tell you, Kim?
	Do you have to tell me what?
	No, you don't.
	You don't know about the little stuff?
	I mean, I know about the little stuff.
	I know about little stuff.
	I don't make those kind of, you know.
	Yeah, but so what?
	That doesn't mean like people can't take me out on date.
	I'm not going to just like do things to everybody because only when people hurt me.
	Can we all be informed?
	Yeah.
	We speak in hypothetically.
	We speak in hypothetically.
	Hypothetically.
	Yeah, we speak in hypothetically.
	Yeah, what for the sake of the conversation.
	Okay, anyways, that's cool.
	So you've been single for a year.
	What about you?
	Hey.
	What's up?
	Like two, almost three years now I've been single.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	There's not a guy in the picture?
	No.
	Uh-huh.
	No, that one I told you about, he actually.
	Is it over?
	Yeah, he just friend zoned me like last week.
	The same day.
	Yeah, the same day that my car broke down and my grandma died.
	Oh.
	So yeah, it's been a rough week.
	That's tough.
	Yeah.
	That's tough.
	Yeah.
	Did your grandma passing have anything to do with why you friend zone?
	Like, did you snap out or no?
	She was sick anyway.
	She died peacefully at home.
	Like she wanted.
	It was nothing like that.
	Wait, how did he friend zone you?
	He was just like, I think you have a lot going on and I have a lot going on and we're just not ready for a relationship.
	And I was like, but you just asked me to hang out with you on Valentine's Day like three days ago.
	Did he not want to deal with you being sad?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Because I wasn't really expressing it.
	Like I was like kind of dealing with that on my own.
	Like because I actually found out.
	All right, hold on.
	Let me read this chat.
	Three diglets, fresh and fit, fit and fresh, fresh and fresh, fit and fit.
	Thank you.
	Oh, three diglets.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you for the soup chat, man.
	Guys, W's in the chat for three Diglets.
	He's got like a wrap or something going on there.
	I don't know what that's that's thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Sorry, go ahead with your story.
	I found out when I was with him.
	I got the call when I was in the car with him about my grandma.
	So like I didn't really like react.
	I was just like, okay.
	And like I kind of held it together until he left.
	So like I wasn't like showing I was I was a mess, but like I wasn't really like showing that.
	Was he your age or older?
	He's like a year older than me.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Great times.
	Good times.
	Okay, but so did you have a rebound?
	Have you had a rebound?
	No, I'm focusing on myself.
	I got a lot going on.
	Okay.
	So he was right.
	I mean you said he said you got a lot going on and then you just told us I got like before I had a lot going on he was like he started coming into my life and like I think I could have balanced that since I already knew him.
	Like I have a lot going on to like go out and like seek someone.
	Like I'm not like because like I mean I still kind of have feelings for him too.
	So I'm just like now dealing with the emotions of that.
	I'm just like it's not right for me to go see someone when I still have feelings for someone else.
	Yeah.
	You literally you wanted to give your number to the guys in the car next to us when we were driving.
	That's a joke.
	Okay.
	What does it mean that he friend zoned you though?
	Is it like you're still talking, leaving space for future things?
	I mean he still tries to text me and I've kind of been like more avoidant because of my own feelings.
	But he like I don't know.
	It's very complicated.
	This is very new.
	He just said like, oh like I think we should like I love you as a friend and like we should stay friends.
	Wait, did y'all copulate?
	What?
	Did y'all copulate carnal knowledge?
	What do you mean?
	Did y'all pe in the V?
	Yeah.
	Y'all see I don't really believe that women can be friend zoned.
	Y'all get fucked up.
	Well that's what I said.
	Like, well, we've already gone as far as we've gone, so how can I go back to just be?
	I can't just be friends with you.
	That's what I said.
	So, I'm just like, I kind of need some time to like process what he said.
	I'm still figuring out.
	Wait, so he wants to kick it with you still?
	She got fuck-zoned.
	Yeah.
	No, but they were that's where they were at.
	That's where we were at.
	So, this wasn't an established relationship, yeah.
	But, like, before that, prior to like doing stuff, we had talked about like you know, like wanting to be serious and like, you know, we don't just like go around sleeping with anyone, blah, blah, blah.
	So, like, we kind of had, I thought we had like a mutual agreement on like it was going to be exclusive, but we were just still like you guys already had sex though?
	No, before.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, no.
	My understanding from last show is there was no agreement that you guys were exclusive.
	There was no agreement, but like, so, but what?
	He was like asking me like to see me on Valentine's Day and like doing things like to lead me on and make it like it was a little more serious than that.
	Like, I was hanging out with him and his friends, and his friends knew like we were all like together.
	Like, everyone knew.
	Did he have a vision for you, though?
	I can't speak on what he knew.
	That's important.
	So, this is all from your perception.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I think I maybe I might have misinterpreted it.
	Maybe absolutely.
	I don't know.
	There was just maybe like a lack of communication.
	But, yeah, I'm doing my own thing now.
	Longest relationship?
	I think it was two years.
	Okay.
	And you've been single for a week, you said?
	No, I never actually dated him.
	Yeah.
	Like, we were just like.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	You never actually dated him, but you said it was like exclusive.
	No, we had like mentioned that like we were the only ones we were talking to, but like we weren't like, he wasn't like my boyfriend.
	I don't know.
	It was too complicated.
	Sure.
	No, that's fine.
	And that's why it's not a thing anymore.
	What about you?
	My longest relationship is, I think, like about a year, like around that mark.
	Current status?
	I am currently in a relationship.
	All right.
	How long have you been together?
	Four months.
	All right.
	The one-year relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	It's actually kind of hard to tell because we were, me and him went to a Christmas party, and then we literally just looked at each other and was like, hey, do you want to be friends?
	And we broke up and then we had to live together for like four months after that in a studio apartment.
	So it wasn't great, but sure.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Longest relationship, five years in my early 20s.
	Here, let's start with current relationship status.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	I have not been claimed yet.
	So you're single?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single for?
	A little over a year.
	Okay, one more time.
	And you're in, or your longest relationship is five years.
	Correct.
	Were you ever married?
	No.
	Okay.
	And was there anything more you wanted to add, or is that pretty much it?
	I was the girl who was very lost in my 20s and have learned to now I want to submit to a man and go down that road.
	And so I'd love to help these women on how to change that, like what you're kind of in thing.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My longest relationship was about a year.
	How long have you been single for?
	About a year.
	No, a year.
	One year.
	So is it like a high school relationship?
	Okay.
	Have you done any dating?
	You just, you're a freshman at, you said UCSB?
	Okay, so you're in the dorms.
	Have you done any dating or anything?
	No.
	You've been, I mean, when I say dating, by the way, I include anything from like casually seeing somebody.
	No.
	Number one party school in the United States.
	I know.
	You're not.
	No, I don't trust you.
	There's no guys in the picture.
	I don't trust the guys here.
	Are you on any dating apps?
	No.
	Have you ever been on a dating app?
	How often do you go out and party?
	Well, I study a lot.
	Simon Major, I guess that makes sense.
	That much time, but first semester, I did go out a lot.
	Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
	Not Thursday.
	Friday, Saturday?
	Friday, usually.
	Fridays, typically, okay.
	And no guys.
	No.
	No, none caught your eye.
	Did you get played?
	No.
	Who hurt you?
	No.
	Are you a virgin?
	That's personal.
	That's a no.
	Okay.
	Are you?
	It's okay if you are.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	I think that's cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're not going to.
	Nobody here is going to shame you for being a virgin, just FYI.
	Why should we be shamed?
	That's a good thing.
	That's the choice of life.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Nobody's going to shame her if she's a virgin.
	Maybe I am.
	Maybe I'm not.
	Yeah, but like.
	I would wear a camera.
	I don't know how to have a conversation.
	I think it's one question.
	No, but have you had like I'm trying to understand the I'm trying to understand the degree of your dating experience.
	That's why we're asking.
	And relationships.
	I had two boyfriends.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	But so, I mean, there's no guys who caught your eye or who you were like dealing with here at UCSB.
	No.
	I mean, the guys who are attractive, just like there aren't really that many black men either.
	And I. Is that your preference?
	Yeah, I mean, I like all races, but I would rather go for that.
	Black guy.
	Okay.
	And are you black?
	I'm like African.
	I don't know.
	I'm Ethiopian Eritrean.
	So yeah.
	Eritrean.
	Oh, okay.
	I have an anecdote about Eritrea.
	Eritrea owns the domain.
	I forgot the exact term.
	You know how like there's.com,.norg, dot, net?
	They own.er.
	And so I was trying to get whatev.er, but it's Eritrea.
	Where's that?
	It's in Africa.
	East Africa.
	And it's like, it's North Africa, right?
	East Africa.
	Northeast Africa, right?
	Isn't it?
	Northeast Africa.
	Well, it's near Egypt, I think, right?
	It's like below.
	It's below Egypt.
	It's not near South Africa.
	East Africa.
	East, but.
	But like the north.
	You know where Somalia is?
	Hold on, let me Google this shit.
	Eritrea.
	It's near Djibouti.
	I know what you talk about on the map.
	I just remember.
	It's the coolest name for us.
	It's in the middle between central and northern.
	Yeah, it's pretty central.
	But on the eastern side.
	Anyways, whatever.
	I was trying to get.
	I was trying to.
	It's hard to talk to somebody in the telecommunication industry in Eritrea.
	Let me tell you.
	I tried.
	I sent emails.
	Anyways, that's cool.
	So you prefer like a black guy.
	Your boyfriend, was he Eritrean/slash Ethiopian?
	The first one was like, he was like kind of everything.
	He was Asian, black, and Native American.
	No, what do you call it?
	Spanish?
	Spanish.
	Yeah.
	And the other one was Vietnamese and French.
	So.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	So there's not many black guys, though, at UCSP.
	It is.
	There's a lot of whites, Asians, and Latinos.
	Not many black people.
	Is there a black dorm or like a black floors, I thought, at UCSP?
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, what about you?
	I'm taking.
	So, relationship?
	Yeah, I'm actually engaged.
	Engaged?
	Okay, cool.
	How long have you been together?
	This December is going to be five years.
	Five.
	Wait, this December?
	The 26th of December.
	So you've been together for four years?
	Yeah, but we've been knowing each other.
	I mean, a month ago, two months ago.
	So you've been to it'll be five years in a year.
	No, it will be five years that will leach you officially in a relationship.
	In December of 2025?
	26, the date, like the number of the date.
	26th of December, 2025.
	So you've been, so you'll be together in a year, practically.
	You'll be together for five years.
	Why a year?
	Like.
	Because it's all a year.
	Oh, yeah, February.
	Sorry.
	No, then it's sorry.
	I'm going to just go ahead.
	I'm going to wish you.
	He's not going to have math.
	I have disco cool.
	I have disco coolie.
	You need to be really, really patient with me.
	I'm sorry about it.
	I'm going to wish you a happy Thanksgiving and a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
	We don't celebrate Thanksgiving.
	Huh?
	I'm Italian.
	We don't celebrate Thanksgiving.
	It's a great time.
	It's the longest day.
	I don't fucking know.
	Whatever you guys celebrate.
	When do you guys celebrate?
	We have to fight over Christian.
	Okay.
	Fine.
	Happy Christmas 2025 and Happy New Year 2025.
	Happy New Year.
	And 20.
	And I'm going to wish you also a happy Valentine's Day for next February.
	Thank you.
	While we're here.
	I appreciate it.
	I'm accepted.
	Thank you so much.
	And my longest relationship before it was mainly a year and a half.
	Okay.
	A year and a half?
	I had three important relationships in my 20s, and they were always lasting around one year.
	But the first real series where I really understood what means falling in love is with my current boyfriend, my partner.
	I see.
	I understand.
	Understand.
	It would kind of be like if I just met a girl.
	Somebody asks me, oh, how long you've been dating her?
	I'll be like, oh, it's going to be a year.
	We've been dating for a year, in a year, though.
	We've been together for a year.
	In like 11 months from now.
	Our anniversary is next year.
	Yo, Kaibaca, thank you for the gifted 20 subs.
	Let me read a couple of these really quick.
	And then.
	Here, hold on.
	We have, actually, I'll get into the chats here really quick.
	I see you, though, three Diglets.
	We'll get that pulled up in a sec.
	Relationship status.
	I am currently single.
	I've been single for about three years.
	My longest relationship was about six years from the age of 17 to 23.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why is that?
	There was an age gap of nine years, and I felt like I. When did you meet him?
	I met him when I was 17.
	When is this?
	What state?
	In California.
	I'm pretty sure that's a crime.
	Wait, you were, hold on.
	Nine years.
	So you were 17 and he was like 26?
	He was 25, yeah.
	Thank you for highlighting this.
	This is a problem I have here.
	I think that's a crime.
	Was there carnal?
	There was no criminal, I didn't press charges.
	She's 19.
	I was, I grew up very well.
	Oh, yeah, I was 17.
	She said that she was 17.
	Then that is a crime.
	So you were a junior in high school.
	Yeah.
	I was, I graduated early, actually.
	But you were a junior?
	Yeah.
	No, I was a senior.
	Oh, you were senior in high school.
	How did you meet him?
	Through mutual friends.
	Yeah.
	Wait, mutual friends as a 17-year-old.
	I went to a continuation party.
	Oh.
	So you were a troublemaker.
	I was a troublemaker.
	Oh.
	What was it?
	Drugs?
	Murder?
	Well.
	Vandalism.
	None of that, but I was in Juvenile Hall a few times.
	Oh.
	My charge was not even a felony.
	I lied to the police about my name when I was out after curfew.
	And I was with friends and we were all driving in the car.
	And I lied about my name and age.
	And then they suspected that I was something was wrong with me.
	They took me to the station and then they took me to Juvenile Hall.
	Wait, what do you mean they suspected something was wrong with you?
	Were you like intoxicated?
	I was a little intoxicated.
	Yeah.
	I was being a little rude to the police when they took us over that night.
	Wait, did you go to the hospital?
	No, I went to the station and then they took me to juvenile hall.
	I see.
	Good times.
	What else did you say you went to Juvie a couple times?
	Why?
	So when I got there the first time, they told me it was a misdemeanor charge, so I didn't have to stay.
	So they immediately let me go with probation.
	And then with probation, any little thing you get in trouble for, let's say you're late to school, you get into a fight at school, your mom calls your PO, oh, she's acting up and going out at night.
	That can all be used as charges against you.
	So it's really easy to pick up new reasons to go into juvenile hall.
	So they took me back there for a few different things.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	In any case, you're dating this older guy.
	That's kind of a bit of a.
	Okay, and so you met through friends because you were in a continuation.
	Had he not graduated?
	He was 25 and still in high school.
	Is that it?
	No, he graduated.
	He was kind of like the connections.
	Huh, okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Q, what about you?
	Oh, wait, really quick.
	You've been single for three years, so properly single for three years.
	Yeah.
	No guys in the picture whatsoever.
	You've been dating nobody for three years.
	I dated one guy after and for about a year, and now we're done.
	So now I'm just very.
	Did you meet him in Juvie?
	No, that was a long time ago.
	That was a different life.
	Good times.
	And the guy who I was with for six years actually.
	Are you a thug?
	No, I'm not a thug.
	Like, are you a gangster?
	No, I'm not a gang member.
	I've met a lot of gangs.
	Are you affiliated with the gang?
	I'm not affiliated with the gang.
	I actually go into the juvenile hall.
	Show me your hands.
	Let me see your gang tattoos.
	I knew it.
	Okay.
	But you go into the prisons, and I know you previously said you do like some outreach programs and this sort of thing.
	But so single for three years?
	Yep, single for three years.
	Okay.
	Did I interrupt?
	I feel like you were telling me there was some guy in the picture, right?
	No, I was just saying the man that I was with for six years, he really kind of helped me get off probation, go to school and stuff.
	So he was kind of like a best friend in a way.
	So I know it was a little inappropriate dating me under age, but yeah.
	I was a very mature young lady at that age, you know?
	Probably still a crime.
	Go ahead, Q. Go ahead, Q. On his part.
	I'm taking.
	My longest relationship?
	It's three years.
	Yeah.
	Sweet.
	We have a couple chats coming through.
	Have one sec.
	Uh-oh.
	Oh boy.
	Metro Matt donated $200.
	I'm feeling rather indignant today.
	Cheerful.
	What is your real age?
	Those frown lines and hairline running away faster than your exes give it away.
	Don't be a nuisance.
	Tell us.
	You want to respond?
	My real age?
	I'll go to the message.
	Yeah, Metro Matt.
	It's an interesting name.
	I'll be 37 this May.
	I have lines because I'm sorry, but I'm going to call it a lot of these ladies probably have Botox.
	I go out in the sun.
	Wait, show of hands.
	Who here has Botox?
	Botox.
	She's 18.
	These two are 22.
	Well, I can tell.
	I think she takes a lot of sound that ages.
	Yes.
	I will own that.
	I am an ocean girl.
	She's an ocean woman.
	Yeah.
	I speak with dolphins.
	She is a woman of the ocean and communicates with dolphins.
	Metro Matt.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I bet Metro Matt gets Botox.
	Metro Matt.
	You know what?
	I heard he Botoxes his balls.
	Ooh.
	He likes them real nice and smooth.
	Don't ask me how I fucking know that.
	Okay.
	Oh my God.
	Thank you, Metro Matt, for the TTS.
	We have Christopher Scott.
	Sorry I misspoke.
	I was just trying to point out that what she described as metaphysics has nothing to do with philosophy.
	So your degree, if we read your degree, it would say Bachelor's of Science in Metaphysics.
	Yes.
	Into the mic, though.
	You got to speak into the microphone.
	Yes.
	Okay, that is interesting.
	I have no idea what that's about, but that's cool.
	Three Digletts.
	He does the.
	It's kind of an 07.
	Or wait.
	Hold on.
	It's not an 07.
	Is that an Elon Musk?
	My heart goes out.
	Okay.
	Thank you, three Diglets.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	You're a legend.
	Guys, W's in the chat for three Digletts.
	Why did you put a wig on Diglett?
	Is it Diglett or Doug Trio?
	What is that?
	It's Diglett.
	What is the Pokemon evolution?
	Is it Diglett?
	Is Diglett in?
	What comes next?
	Doug Trio.
	That's the regional variant.
	But isn't it three?
	That's why he got three Diglets because it's one, but he's saying three.
	But isn't there an evolution beyond?
	Like, it's Diglett, Doug Trio, and is it really?
	Yeah.
	But I'm old school.
	I'm like Pokemon Red and Blue.
	That's gen one.
	Okay.
	Why are you a trans Diglet, though?
	Why is he three Digletts?
	Why are you a trans Diglet?
	Three Digletts, please send in another chat.
	Tell us your pronouns, okay?
	I don't want to misgender you.
	Albo Ace, L Daisy, WFNF, WFresh, W Mine, L Lingling.
	Okay, I can't read.
	Albo, I can't read that.
	Hello?
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Albo, for the super chat, though.
	We have...
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Guys, we do they enjoy racist?
	I don't really care.
	We have to refrain from YouTube.
	They cannot.
	We have to refrain from potentially racist.
	But thank you for the super chats.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Okay, let's get into the show.
	We have a lot to get to.
	We got a lot to get through, a whole bunch of notes.
	So let's get right into it.
	But before we do, no, fuck it.
	Let's get into it.
	Okay, pull up the Ashley St. Clair stuff because there's an update.
	We talked about this, I think, two shows ago.
	Ashley St. Clair, who's been a whatever hater for two years now, big whatever hater.
	It's come out as of Valentine's Day.
	So what, a week ago or so?
	When was that?
	Yeah, it was a week ago.
	Wait.
	A week ago.
	About a week ago.
	She got knocked up by the world's richest man, Elon Musk.
	And she had his love child five months ago.
	So some baby mama drama is happening.
	And that's actually why, because of this Ashley St. Clair, Elon Musk baby drama, this is why I brought Daisy on because she's an expert in baby mama drama.
	And honestly, Daisy, I want to say, are you, have you heard about the Ashley St. Clair stuff, Daisy?
	No.
	You don't know about it?
	You haven't been on Twitter?
	Where you been, Daisy?
	I just started tweeting.
	Yeah.
	Daisy, you got to look into this.
	Because all I got to say, Daisy, you got to step your shit up.
	You should have had your eyes set on Elon Musk.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Walter is a catch.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	But hold on.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	Walter was and is a catch, okay?
	You fumbled the bag with Walter.
	But Elon, do you like older white men?
	I know you said you like black guys.
	No, no, no.
	No, you don't like white guys?
	I do.
	I'm just like billionaires.
	Race doesn't matter.
	Yeah.
	Would you let Elon Musk have would you have a child with him?
	Whoa.
	Look into this camera, deep into the camera lens.
	Look deep into the camera lens and say, Elon Musk, I want.
	Let's say if I have to have a baby with someone, I don't mind having it with Elon Musk.
	You don't mind?
	Yeah, I would.
	I would love to.
	You don't mind?
	Why not having a baby with the world that's very kind of you So you already know the answer, right?
	Okay.
	And then it's not that I picked who he was as my baby father previous, okay?
	It's just happened.
	It wasn't like something I planned for.
	I'm just saying.
	Naturally.
	I'm just saying.
	Yeah.
	Elon Musk was available for you.
	You could have gone.
	Look, Walter, look, Walter, host of like a massive podcast, right?
	Huge podcast.
	That's good.
	You were ambitious.
	You could have gone a little.
	Why do you guys think he's a setup?
	You still think it's a setup?
	No, I'm not.
	No, no, I'm not.
	You can't set up for it was love.
	It was for you and Walter, that was love.
	I'm just saying, you could have, Elon Musk, here, look.
	How about you introduce me, Elon Musk?
	Sure.
	Elon Musk knocked up already a single mom who's in her 30s who's like annoying.
	I don't know if you guys have that in common, but she's annoying and quarrelsome and nagging and like average looking.
	You could have got Elon Musk.
	You got Ashley St. Clair over here.
	I'm just saying you should have had your bullseye.
	Like, you know, have you ever are there any like who's that billionaire in China?
	Jack Ma?
	Would you smash Jack?
	Like, for the back?
	Probably not for the bag, but for the knowledge.
	The knowledge?
	He's very smart.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He's smart.
	Yes.
	Because in general, I attracted to smart, ambitious, successful men.
	And I don't see that's wrong.
	How many baby chats are you going to do?
	Rather smash a smart man than a dusty man.
	A dust, a dusty dusty.
	What's a dusty?
	I don't know what that is.
	Can somebody explain it to me?
	What's a dusty?
	A dusty is a man who doesn't have anything going for them.
	They're not a provider.
	They're not able to provide.
	Yeah.
	Metro Matt.
	Metro Matt?
	Are you dusty?
	Metro Matt, are you going to let this stand?
	You just invoked his wrath because.
	I'm ready for it.
	Metro Matt, she called you a dusty.
	So not a dusty.
	Do we, Damien, can you Google the world's richest men and find the Wikipedia article?
	Because I'm going to try, I'm going to be a matchmaker here.
	And I'm going to get our good friend Daisy.
	I'm going to get you a date with a billionaire, okay?
	I've already done it.
	You've done it many times.
	Billion.
	It's kind of serious.
	Look, I know there's all these fake millionaires in Miami.
	Not in Miami.
	They're Chinese.
	Okay, well, then it's for sure legit because they're Chinese.
	You know, they've never, you know, DVDs.
	Do they just tell you I'm a billionaire?
	They don't have to tell me.
	When you create a fake DVD, or you know who they are, trust me.
	If you know their real name, you just know who they are because there aren't too many, too many billionaires in China.
	Why is this?
	Maybe they are, but they're not on podcast.
	Is it green or is it just?
	Damn, bro.
	There's a toxic cloud over Santa Barbara.
	Look at that shit.
	I can't tell.
	Do you have it, Damien?
	Pull up the richest.
	Okay, so.
	Franz.
	Fran, merci.
	So, Daisy, do any of these men catch your eye?
	We have Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos.
	He's currently dating a Latina that actually.
	I think you have a shot with Bezos.
	I met them, both of them.
	He likes the.
	No, I mean.
	He likes.
	I think he would like your look.
	Yeah.
	Jeff Bezos.
	Yeah, you're kind of hurting his thoughts.
	Do you like and Zuckerberg?
	Do you like bald guys?
	Okay, there's Mark Zuckerberg.
	He dates.
	Is she.
	She's Asian.
	I don't know.
	I think she's Chinese.
	Yeah, she's Chinese.
	So hold on.
	Daisy has a shot here with Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg.
	Now, Larry Ellison, he's a bit on the old side.
	You have Warren Buffett, who I know.
	He's married.
	He's kind of this wholesome.
	I don't know.
	Bill Gates, I think, is available.
	They got divorced the way.
	Yeah, they crush him, though.
	Who's she?
	What do you mean, crush him?
	Just, you seem more powerful.
	She used to be a bodybuilder.
	She was a bodybuilder.
	She was a strong mind.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	I don't know why we.
	Oh, we have here.
	We'll read this one.
	Pull that up.
	We got Myron Gaines in the chat.
	ICE has been notified.
	You are legally working in the United States as an escort in OF Grade.
	Trump is in office.
	You're cooked.
	Do you want to respond to Myron?
	First of all, I own my own business in ITIM.
	I pay tax legally here with a Visa student.
	Okay.
	And other than that, I don't want to talk to him.
	Why are you still attacking me?
	Come on.
	I haven't even talked about you.
	Okay.
	Well, the read, guys, is 100.
	TTS is 200.
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	Thank you guys so much.
	W's in the chat for them, guys.
	Thank you.
	All right, guys.
	So I kind of got a little distracted there because I was trying to be a matchmaker for Daisy.
	I want to cut, though.
	If I get you a billionaire, you owe me a bill.
	$1 billion.
	Okay?
	That's fair, right?
	Is that dusty?
	Wait, Daisy, if I legit got you married without a prenup to a billionaire, you would have to throw me a bill.
	Like, that seems fair.
	Like, a billion dollars.
	Why?
	I got you set up.
	That's a finder's fee.
	But why?
	But marriage for me is not an agreement.
	I won't marry you.
	That's my fee for being a matchmaker.
	I feel like I want to marry him.
	I'm not entitled to marry a billionaire.
	So I don't think I have to give you a bill.
	Well, we'll sign a contract, and when I get you linked up with the billionaire, it'll be legally binding.
	And then I wouldn't do such things because, you know, like those people who were attacking me, you know, attacking me.
	No, it's normal in the matchmaking industry.
	Listen, you said you've been single for a year.
	We know how that last one went.
	I think you need a little assistance.
	I'm going to get you a nice elderly, the sperm still functioning billionaire.
	Do you like Saudi Arabian?
	I know a couple oilers.
	I can get you an oil guy.
	You're very mean.
	No, this is just, this is, this is, I'm helping.
	This is banter.
	Currently, I'm just focusing on myself.
	Yeah, but thank you.
	Well, if you reconsider, I'm here for you.
	I will.
	Ogle in the chat with the 50 gifted memberships.
	Big Ogle.
	Thank you.
	By the way, Ogle was a legend.
	Two champagne pops last show.
	You're a legend.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	W's in the chat for Ogle.
	Thank you.
	Gifted 50 memberships.
	We have.
	Love is Nakama donated $200.
	Delusional test.
	Brian, you are the goat.
	Can the panel do a delusional test?
	The one with the cat food?
	What does it mean?
	We can tell you what, man.
	I'm trying to.
	Here, we'll do.
	Who wants to do?
	We can only do one girl just for the sake of time, but who wants to do the delusion calculator?
	What's that?
	Yeah, what is it?
	Did you have it, Damian?
	Janata pulled it up.
	It should be one of the tabs of the.
	Okay.
	The type of million.
	It's like you put in, okay, here's the age, here's the height, here's how much he earns, and we'll tell you the percentage chance of you getting that guy.
	Who wants to do it?
	All right, Daisy.
	Thank you, Daisy, for being our guinea pig.
	Thank you, Daisy.
	Why don't you pull that up?
	Okay, scroll down.
	All right, what's the age you're looking for?
	Between 30 to 45.
	Okay.
	30 to 45.
	Do you want to exclude married men?
	Men who are already married?
	Would you.
	What are men with you?
	Do you want to exclude married men?
	I want a single man.
	Yeah, excellent.
	Black, I think you said.
	Or any color?
	Black or Asian.
	Oh.
	I don't know what to do.
	Just don't any color.
	Myron Gaines, what do we do, Myron?
	You're the expert in this one.
	What do we do here, Myron?
	Do we just put black then?
	Can you not click multiple?
	Let's do Asian.
	Asian?
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	Should we just do any color shade?
	Okay.
	What do you hear?
	Okay, any color.
	You pay any color or shade.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's fair.
	Height.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'6.
	Okay.
	Minimum height for the guy?
	Like 180 centimeters, not less than that.
	Actually, that doesn't really matter for me.
	Yeah.
	Do 5'10.
	Just do 5'10.
	That's the average male height.
	We'll just do 5'10.
	Do you want to exclude obese, man?
	So fat guys?
	Obese.
	Oh, no, no fat guys.
	No fat guys.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Minimum income.
	Like, I don't know, a million a year.
	Max it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Find out.
	Let's do the calculation.
	Probability: 0.034%.
	Scroll down.
	That's five out of five cat bags.
	Okay.
	Thank you for that.
	That's why I'm single.
	Well, I mean.
	That's okay.
	I can make it myself.
	You know, Daisy, I think, you know, you have high standards, but I think I see you settling down in Oklahoma with a guy who makes like 50K.
	I could see that.
	Why not?
	If that happens.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you live in like a.
	I just know what I want.
	The population of the town is 20,000.
	You work at the middle school.
	Could be.
	He sends you to the Walmart.
	And that's, you know, you have three kids.
	Would you be happy with that?
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, I tried.
	All right.
	We have another chat here.
	Hey, yo.
	Wait.
	Very rich to call someone dusty when having dusty kuta.
	Who said dusty?
	On an unrelated note, burritos and dumpies.
	Hey, thank you, Kat.
	Thank you for that.
	Who was it?
	I did.
	You brought up the dusty.
	Yeah, somebody.
	But you also said random.
	I called Metro.
	I don't know.
	You just called Metro Matt Dusty.
	Wait, I learned this word from here.
	I didn't even know what Dusty is.
	I would think Dusty is a man shooting blanks because he's so old.
	No?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Could be.
	Yeah, I would think Dusty is like someone who doesn't take care of himself.
	Yeah.
	Lives with their mom at like 40.
	Something like that.
	Yeah.
	So let's get into the Ashley St. Clair thing.
	So why don't you pull up the first thing on that?
	We're going to do a quick recap for those who didn't see the show yesterday and then get into the new developments.
	So she posted this on Valentine's Day.
	Five months ago, I welcomed a new baby into the world.
	Elon Musk is the father.
	I have not previously disclosed this to protect our child's privacy and safety, but in recent days, it has become clear that tabloid media intends to do so regardless of blah, Next.
	So, and then there's been a bunch of news stories the past, I don't know, week, 10 days since she dropped this.
	But recently, so a bunch of stuff's been going on on Twitter.
	And then I think it was on Friday.
	Was it Friday?
	In any case, it doesn't matter.
	Recently, the past couple days, she filed a lawsuit in New York City seeking sole custody of the child, establishing the paternity of the child, attempting to establish Elon Musk as the father.
	And then I assume there's some child support component that they're seeking.
	So it was on Fox News, HuffPost.
	This is like all the rage that's going on on Twitter.
	By the way, Ashley St. Clair, she's like in her 30s.
	She's a conservative, quote unquote, supposed, she's an undercover covert feminist, but she's a supposed conservative political pundit.
	And so on Twitter, it's been blown up.
	So here, make that full screen.
	Now, this woman, since 2023, before she even got involved with Elon Musk, she's been shit talking us, the whatever podcast.
	She's had a like a beef with us, one-sided.
	We didn't, she just started talking shit.
	And she's gone on multiple podcasts.
	She's been talking shit in Twitter spaces, just talking shit.
	And why don't we play this clip from the beginning?
	Video.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Video tab.
	Andrew Tate's not the problem because if you take Andrew Tate away, you still have this massive group of young men who are clinging to that message on shows like the whatever podcast.
	Rude.
	You're bringing them on for this humiliation porn.
	Why is all of this content allowed on YouTube?
	YouTube, who has been, you know, at the forefront of we need to protect those who are younger.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, you can pause it.
	So basically, she was calling for whatever podcast and then channels similar to it.
	So I don't know if Myron's still in the chat.
	Calling for his channel to be not just demonetized, but actually censored and removed off of YouTube.
	This applies to other people in the space, probably like Rola, other people, Mike Sartain, these sorts of people, right?
	Calling for it to just be deleted, removed, channel banned.
	She's calling that for us.
	And then she's just talked a bunch of shit.
	She talks shit on Twitter.
	We're not going to show all that.
	She talks shit on a different podcast.
	She's talking shit in a Twitter space.
	Pull up the next thing.
	So this was in a Twitter space a little bit ago.
	Go full screen on the video.
	You're going to go in the video tab too.
	Full screen.
	Yeah.
	And then start from the beginning.
	So this is a Twitter space.
	Do you take issue with shows like the whatever podcast?
	And, you know, certainly they're demeaning them on the show, but these girls also.
	The whatever podcast is here.
	What's going on right now?
	Let them speak.
	Let them speak.
	I have a question for Ashley.
	Ashley, what's your body count?
	Oh my God.
	Yeah, so what's your body count?
	Oh, a little trolling.
	I'm about to be higher after I freaking come to LA and give you guys a piece of my freaking mind.
	I think you guys are degenerate scum, if you want me to be really honest.
	So what's your body count?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Do you take issue?
	Pause it.
	So, so basically, I cut that down a little bit, but she was in the space talking shit about, I wasn't there initially.
	Somebody texted me.
	Ashley St. Clair's talking shit about you.
	I joined the space.
	And then I'm like, I'm just going to troll her.
	So I ask her the body count question a couple times.
	There's a bit more to the back and forth, but that's the condensed version.
	So that's the history between whatever podcast hater and now woman who just had love child with the world's richest man, one of the world's most powerful men, running a multi-trillion dollar business, running multiple multi-billion dollar businesses.
	So they got, she got knocked up a couple months ago.
	Pull up the next thing.
	And then I'm going to get the panel to weigh in just because there's some drama going on.
	Go ahead.
	This is a bit more background.
	So Ash, she's had a bunch of historical tweets talking shit about certain things, but she said Kamala can't help herself from bending over for a man to get ahead.
	Mind you, she deleted that post, but I was able to get a screen grab of it.
	So that's just kind of funny.
	Didn't age very well given that she slept with the world's most richest man to get ahead.
	Next one.
	And then please respect my privacy, because she asked in that little her tweet, respect my privacy.
	Then she goes and does a bunch of interviews with the New York Post.
	Let's do the next one.
	Now this is really interesting.
	So, oh, this goes into the lawsuit, which we need to pull up.
	Do we still have the lawsuit tab?
	Okay.
	Laura Loomer on Twitter, who's been covering this very well.
	She says, quoting Ashley St. Clair, I want my privacy.
	Let me post screenshots of my encrypted messages on Signal that I took with the second phone so I could lie about respecting someone's privacy.
	Shame on any conservative who's enabling this type of deceptive and promiscuous behavior by a gold digger.
	Scroll down just a little bit here.
	Just pull up the lawsuit.
	Let's just do that.
	Because she's referencing the lawsuit that Ashley St. Clair filed that I mentioned earlier.
	Let's see.
	Go ahead and take a look.
	Can you make this a little bigger?
	Scroll mouse wheel.
	Scroll down.
	Okay.
	Scroll down.
	Okay.
	So number eight, respondent and I began our romantic relationship in or about May 2023.
	I had, this is Ashley.
	I had sexual, this is a lawsuit, by the way.
	I had sexual intercourse with a respondent on or about the second day of January 2024 and on or about the third day of January 2024 in various locations, including but not limited to St. Bart's, during which time our child was conceived.
	As a result of my aforesaid, I've never seen aforesaid relations with the respondent.
	I became pregnant with his child.
	Exhibit A.
	I gave birth to a child, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay.
	Scroll, let's just scroll all the way down to the photos now.
	So here's the crazy part.
	Here's the real crazy part.
	Exhibit A.
	So here's the first one.
	So, well, I'll get into the crazy part.
	So that's, she took a photo of Elon Musk with their kid.
	So she included that in the lawsuit.
	Scroll down.
	Okay.
	Scroll up a little bit.
	I want to see if there's anything to read.
	No, okay, scroll down.
	Yeah, right there.
	Scroll up just a tad.
	no too much just so the yeah that's good so So what's going on here?
	So this is an app called Signal.
	And you'll notice that if you look at the text, you see how there's a timer at the bottom?
	You see, all well, 0104, 0105.
	That's how much time is left.
	So Signal, I don't have it, but my understanding is it's private, it's encrypted.
	You send a message and it automatically deletes after a period of time.
	If you take a screenshot on your phone, it sends an indicator to the other person that they screenshotted what's intended to be a private conversation.
	She's using a secondary cell phone to take a photo of what's intended to be a private conversation between her and Elon Musk, who I don't know if they have.
	I would be shocked if Elon Musk doesn't have an NDA, but I mean, he seems to be playing things pretty loose, so maybe he doesn't have NDAs.
	In any case, she's taking screenshots of what's intended to be private, self-deleting, encrypted messages.
	Scroll down.
	Okay.
	So this is again from Elon Musk.
	So at the top, I'm going to read it.
	This is him saying, I get credible death threats every day.
	He's number, I'm number two after Trump for assassination.
	Wake up.
	This is not the time for sentiment at the expense of safety.
	If I make a mistake on security, uh, that the next is that's in reference to her son, their son, I should say, will never know his father.
	And then she says, That's why the father spotted on his birth certificate is blank right now, E, and why he has my last name.
	Necessary for now, only the pair nodes survive.
	I understand.
	Apologies if Ava's text upset you.
	There has been incredible discretion used here, as will continue to be.
	The threat level will reach insane levels until the election is decided.
	Loose links.
	So, again, you'll note that this is intended to disappear.
	This is all, but she took, she used a second phone to capture all of this.
	Next one, okay.
	So, she sends them him this other thing, a photo, and then he tells her he wants to knock her up again.
	Okay, next, wow.
	And then, here, this is her being quarrelsome.
	Next, but obviously, next scroll down.
	Okay, I think scroll down, scroll down all the way to the bottom.
	I think that's okay.
	That's pretty much it.
	So, there's a couple things going on here.
	Oh man, there's some there's another tweet too that's really interesting.
	Um, but there's a couple big things.
	So, one, she's taking photos of private text messages that are intended to disappear.
	Two, uh, she's gone public with something that he intended to attempt to keep private.
	Let's pull up that other tweet.
	And actually, here, really quick, just I want to apologize, guys.
	We're reviewing the thing.
	Uh, there are a couple uh, wait, where is it?
	Ogle did Ogle sent in another 50.
	Can you check?
	He did.
	Yo, Ogle, guys, W's in the chat for Ogle.
	Thank you so much for the 50 gifted guys.
	I want to see Wogle in the chat.
	W's in the chat for Ogle.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Uh, hold on.
	I gotta let the TTS go for one sec, guys.
	Just because chair underscore one underscore simp donated $200.
	Chair one is absolutely gorgeous.
	Educated and elegant, chair one.
	You're the whole.
	How do you feel about watching the sunset on the boat?
	Oh, do you want to?
	Hello?
	Do you want to respond into the mic?
	Uh, yeah, I'd be open to that.
	All right, chair one simp is back.
	He has he always has an eyeball for chair one.
	All right, she's open to a romantic date.
	All right, uh, let's see.
	Um, let's pull up that other tweet going back to the Ashley St. Clair thing.
	Uh, oh, okay, so this is Isabella Moody, who, by the way, we've had on the show before.
	Shout out to Isabella.
	Uh, so she says, I'm I wasn't gonna post these, but now with uh, Ashley St. Clair leaked, she leaked the private messages in the lawsuit claiming she wanted privacy.
	And so, basically, there's this narrative going on, which seems to have some evidence to it, that Ashley was trying to baby trap uh Elon and like intended going in.
	She had some foresight when it came to getting pregnant.
	Um, scroll down, scroll down.
	Okay, we're gonna press the photo.
	All right, so this is a DM uh, sorry, a message sent to Isabella from Ashley St. Clair.
	Elon followed me.
	I need his rocket babies, mind you.
	This is almost two years ago.
	Isabella, oh my god, no way, that's awesome.
	Um, she says, Look, I'll take one for the team, seduce Elon, and get in a rocket to see what's up.
	And then, next, uh, and then she's asking for advice on how to seduce Elon.
	And so, there's some history there.
	Uh, there's a bunch, there's so much that you can like go into.
	With you can check out like Laura Loomers posted a bunch of stuff if you want to like see more of the details of the story, but that's basically it.
	Is there another thing, or is that pretty much it?
	No, that was it.
	That's it.
	All right, that was a lot to get through.
	Um, so I want to get there's I know there was a lot that was brought up there.
	I want to get the whole panel's reaction on that going around the table, uh, starting with Aaliyah.
	So, I mean, what do you guys think?
	It's a bit sad.
	Hold on, one at a time.
	Go ahead.
	Um, I mean, I don't know.
	I don't really think much about it.
	Maybe she had like the idea of being with someone who has money, but I don't think anyone wants to be like a single mom as well.
	But let me provide, I guess, a bit more added context.
	So, there's another tweet out there that shows more deep, I think, more messages from her where she says something along the lines of, I forgot, I don't want to misquote it.
	Um, it's something along, we had it pulled up last time.
	You know what, Damien?
	I'm gonna try to find it.
	Give me one sec here because I don't want to like misquote it.
	But she knew what the deal was with Elon.
	Let me see.
	One sec, guys.
	Um, do I have it?
	Do we have it?
	One sec, guys, while I get this pulled up.
	I don't know if I'm gonna be able to find it.
	I'll just find, I'll just give the recap here.
	So, he knew, or she knew, Ashley St. Clair, this girl, knew that he had multiple different baby mamas, multiple kids, and that he, I think she said something like, she knew that he went through women quickly.
	So, she comes along and she wants to get knocked up by him because the world's richest man, connections, network, influence, power.
	And then, but the way all those messages sound like is she's upset with him that the world's richest man who's involved in the current presidential or who's involved in the election, who's involved with the current administration, because Trump won the presidency.
	So, he's busy with that.
	He's busy with his multiple businesses.
	He's already got four baby, was it four or five baby mamas, 13 other kids, and she's nagging him on Valentine's Day.
	Oh, she's upset that she's not getting the amount of attention that she thinks she deserves.
	It's a lot of baby mamas, but she knew going in, like, I don't think, like, she claimed to be this, like, conservative and family values and the nuclear fit, all this shit.
	She claimed she was all for that.
	But here she is, two baby daddies, single mom, second child out of wedlock, or maybe, was she married before?
	In any case, she has two baby daddies.
	She did it with a guy who she knew she was never gonna get commitment from.
	Yeah, and this is a woman who's like espousing supposed traditional and conservative values when it comes to the social order and family.
	Yeah, there was another fuck, there was another tweet that I wanted to pull up.
	It's from me.
	I'm gonna send it to you, but so I don't know.
	It's just like she's nagging, she's she's in the DMs nagging.
	Yeah, I don't think if I was like in a conservative standpoint that I would go for him, yeah, word, okay.
	Daisy, thoughts.
	Well, for sure, I think she didn't handle the situation very well.
	Because if I were her, my baby father is Elon Musk.
	I didn't have to do all of that.
	I think there is no way I'm going to win.
	And I feel like if the man is a billionaire, obviously he doesn't care about to pay for the child support or taking care of the family.
	So why was she being so greedy?
	You know, thinking for attention.
	Because if money, that's what she wants.
	And also, I think it does take two take the boxes.
	As you see, the message that Elon said, I want to knock you up again.
	Obviously, they didn't have any protection.
	So I think both agreed.
	Well, I think he has like a breeding thing.
	Like he's rich, so he can't afford to have a bunch of kids.
	So he wants to like.
	Well, he doesn't care.
	He doesn't mind to have a baby or like taking care of a baby.
	An actual baby.
	Damien, can you have a bunch of people?
	She didn't have to go all the way to do all of that.
	If I were her, I would never have done that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Your take on any of this?
	I mean, basically, they said everything I thought.
	Just, okay.
	I don't know.
	It's a lot to process.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It's just, it's a lot.
	I feel like I have never thought about a situation of going to that extent and like saying, oh, I'm a private person, but then posting screenshots of your text messages.
	Yeah.
	Like that whole hypocrite.
	I mean, maybe I'm wrong about the word hypocrite.
	I don't know.
	But that kind of, from my understanding of the word hypocrite, that is kind of hypocritical.
	Well, there's two things.
	You bring up a good point.
	There's two things with the privacy thing.
	She's like, oh, please respect my privacy.
	And then literally the next day, she does an interview.
	She does an interview with, what's it called?
	The New York Post.
	Sorry, brain fog.
	Does an interview with the New York Post, invites them in to do a photo shoot, does it in her New York?
	Oh, the other thing, Elon Musk set her up in, like, I think a $40,000 apartment in New York City.
	Right?
	$40,000 apartment, penthouse apartment in New York City.
	And so to me, that's just crazy.
	So to claim she wants privacy, that's wild.
	But then the big thing is, so you got to remember, with that app, you could say, well, like, for example, let's say you're suing somebody, and then you're like looking for evidence and you have existing text messages with somebody.
	Before all this shit blew up on Twitter, all those text messages, in order for her to have taken them, here's the big thing.
	She didn't take them a week ago when she was contemplating.
	She took them right when she got them.
	Yeah, she didn't take them a week ago when she was in the mode of contemplating initiating a lawsuit against him.
	She took him when conceivably there was still some, should have been some level of trust between them.
	She was taking them months ago, months ago, taking with a secondary phone of what he intended to be private.
	That, I think, is the most despicable, one of the most despicable components of this.
	Do you have any thoughts on any of this?
	Well, I mean, she literally, in the text messages, the screenshot of the text messages, when she was like, okay, I want to seduce Elon.
	I want to have his kid.
	And I want to go on one of his rockets.
	And honestly, she almost got all three.
	She seduced him.
	She had a kid.
	I need to know if she got on that rocket.
	I feel like that's like the only thing missing.
	That's what I need to know.
	Maybe she was mad she didn't get on the rocket and stuff.
	Yeah, and that's why she, yeah, I think that's it.
	Okay, I'm just going to post everything.
	Your reaction?
	She didn't call her daddy, do the same thing where she preached feminism, but then went and got married and submitted.
	Do you know anything about that?
	What?
	The Call Her Daddy podcast.
	Before she got married, she was all about the boss babe.
	And then she went on and got engaged, got married, and did everything opposite what she was telling her viewers to do.
	So, this to me sounds like a woman who is kind of a pick-me.
	I'm conservative to seduce a man, a certain type of a man.
	She got him.
	Am I the only one in this?
	Well, I'm not familiar with the caller daddy stuff, but I mean, I do agree that she's LARP.
	She was LARPing as a conservative.
	I don't think she was actually conservative.
	I think she's a covert feminist.
	And yeah, I mean, I think she's super predatory, like, in terms of her conduct, both prior to even meeting him, during the courtship, and then afterwards.
	And I mean, I think she just wants clout.
	She wants money.
	Agreed.
	And she doesn't want the nuclear family, obviously.
	Yeah, and part of that, though, is I think she was like advocating for that.
	And there were some other tweets that were really good.
	I'm going to see if I can find them.
	But damn, I'm trying to think.
	She was also saying stuff like, shit.
	I'm going to see if it's on any of these other accounts.
	I don't know.
	She's saying like the family court system's bullshit or something like that.
	Oh, she's, oh, fuck, what was it?
	I'm going to try to find it.
	But do you have anything else on the situation?
	I'm just curious, because men seem, it's like chicken and the egg, though.
	We have men that are very afraid of being used for their money.
	Yeah.
	But then we have women who are positioning themselves in certain ways to get these men who have a lot of money, the seduction of it all.
	That's why we have OnlyFans.
	That's why we have women looking a certain way.
	It's not an effort to be based.
	Is that the right value-based?
	I'm looking for commentary about the situation with Ashley Sanders.
	Okay, I'm bringing in, yeah.
	Do you have commentary on that?
	She's one of those people, it was all talk.
	She wants to be a single mother.
	There are a lot of women out there that want to do that.
	They don't want the man to be involved.
	I'm not one of those women.
	I'm not speaking up for that, but it does exist.
	Okay, sure.
	Anything?
	Your thoughts?
	They've kind of already said everything like I wanted to say.
	So no, not really.
	Okay, pull up the tweet.
	So there's a but she has a bunch of like historical tweets that she posted that are just like this will be the last one.
	But she says, there's no sin as cruel as alienating a child from a parent.
	Seeing so much of this everywhere.
	Mind you, this is, I think, I don't know exactly when, but like shortly before.
	Wait, would this have been before?
	Or no, this would have been before she gave birth, but she was pregnant at this point.
	No sin as cruel as alienating a child.
	Mind you, in her lawsuit, she's seeking sole custody of the child.
	So she says this.
	Now she's filing a lawsuit, making a big spectacle of the whole thing.
	What is she suing for?
	Well, she wants to establish paternity, because you have to establish paternity before, and then she wants sole custody of the child, and then she wants child support.
	So she's suing for, yeah, those things.
	Yeah, I mean, in my opinion, it was premeditated.
	That's number one.
	She basically had an outline of how she was going to get Elon Musk.
	And then I think it highlights what can be some women, the duplicitous and conniving, vindictive nature of them.
	I don't believe there's a conservative influencer in terms of women because it's an oxymoron.
	So for her to be that performative, clearly clout is her agenda.
	That's what she's chasing.
	I agree with you when you said that.
	That's what she's doing.
	And then she wants to turn around and play the victim.
	She knew what she signed up for.
	If Elon has X amount of baby moms and he's not in any of their lives, he's not committed, he's not married, then you knew that he wasn't going to give you that.
	So I don't understand her angle other than she's trying to extract money out of him by complaining about the fact that he isn't giving her the attention or the time that she wants.
	I mean, it's evident.
	You can tell it's clear as day.
	And apparently, from this is Laura Loomer as the source.
	She hired for her lawyer, her attorney, to file the lawsuit, an anti-Trump attorney who wrote a book.
	He's like a major divorce attorney in New York City, who wrote a book.
	And I think a component of it, there's a chapter where he talks just about Trump.
	And I think he might have been the, I don't know if he was the divorce attorney for one of Trump's ex-wives or something, but it's interesting.
	Ashley St. Clair claims to be conservative, I believe, is a Republican, I believe, voted for Trump, pushed for, I think she was anti-Trump at one point post-2020, but then I don't know, changed up or whatever.
	But she hired an anti-Trump attorney, mind you, like Elon Musk is in the administration.
	So I just think that's really that seems kind of weird, like kind of weird.
	There's a whole bunch of details.
	We'll get reactions from you two.
	Oh, I would just feel quite sad for the kids.
	I mean, even Grimes is having a problem with Elon Musk.
	Recently, she actually tweeted about some health issues with one of those kids.
	And by even all of them already said everything, and he said it, this was all premeditated.
	Like, the message is proved that, obviously.
	And even her friend that showed a screenshot where she was like, yeah, let's get the baby.
	Like, he's following me, blah, blah, blah.
	It just sad.
	All of it.
	She knew how he behaves.
	She knows and she knew that he's not present and he's never been present, even with the older kids.
	Like, for example, even the trans his first child that now she is female, how she feels about her father and how everything.
	If you're conservative, you would have been very far away from someone like Elon Musk.
	And by using him to get cloud, like in this way, after having a child, like this is not a bit too much negativity for a person that just gave birth and is trying to get herself back in track.
	Plus, he was taking care of her.
	Like, she had an apartment, everything was paid, she had everything.
	I'm not really understanding why now she's biting the hand that was feeding her.
	I'm just saying this.
	Yeah.
	And even if she couldn't really maybe communicate with him, like, I mean, he's everywhere right now.
	And he has, as you said, billions of companies and businesses to take care of.
	It's confusing.
	And it's not really clear what she's doing.
	She sounds very confused.
	Well, and we're talking about her.
	So she's getting more publicity.
	How can you be happy with that negativity in your life?
	But she, like, the thing is, is that she wants attention.
	She wants clout.
	She just has her platform on Twitter.
	I don't, like, she just has networked with all these people in the conservative space.
	And like she doesn't really create anything.
	She's purely like a political pundit, political commentator.
	She's very good at networking.
	I mean, she was able to be in certain rooms, certain people.
	She has a lot of connections.
	A lot of people are turning on her, though, because of her conduct.
	She's probably burned a lot of bridges because she is a bit belligerent in her the way she, I guess, interacts with people.
	I mean, that was our own experience.
	But to your point, I do think it's, it is really, trying to think exactly how I want to phrase this.
	It's really interesting that, like, as women, if you want that high-value guy, Elon Musk, high-value man, world's richest man.
	There's no question about it.
	Like, you want to deal with a guy who's rich, who's like ambitious.
	You got to understand, you're not going to get the same level of attention from a dude who works part-time, from a guy who's in college, who's taken a light course load, from a guy who has a normal job.
	You want, if you want, there's this, I guess I have to, you guys probably don't like this person, but Andrew Tate has this interesting quote.
	If you want a dude who's a McLaren, it's going to come with problems.
	You want a guy, you want a normal dude who's a, sorry, I'm sorry, Andrew Tan, I'm butchering your fucking quote.
	You want a normal guy who's not going to cause problems?
	That's a Toyota.
	Go with the Toyota.
	But if you want the shiny car, you get the McLaren, but it's going to come with problems.
	If you date like a super ambitious, high-value dude, it's going to come with certain problems.
	You're not going to get all the attention you want.
	He's not going to be texting you all the time.
	He's going to be busy doing other shit.
	He's going to be on his mission.
	You want a normal life?
	Go date an accountant.
	You want attention?
	Date an accountant.
	You want to deal with a G, a baller, a professional athlete, a musician?
	You're probably going to be dealing with other women.
	You're going to be dealing with him being busy.
	He's not going to text you back right away.
	You're not going to get that level of attention.
	So she should have known going in, this is the richest man in the world, one of the most powerful men in the world.
	He's involved in politics now.
	He's involved in the administration.
	He's running Tesla.
	He's doing all these things.
	Incredibly busy man.
	Not only that, just if he was even running one of these businesses, just one, just Tesla, that's it.
	He would already be insanely busy as it is.
	He's got multiple businesses.
	He's got multiple other women.
	He's got multiple kids.
	What?
	13, 14, whatever?
	13.
	And I think in his mind, whether you agree or disagree, he's trying to literally save the world.
	This guy has ambitions.
	He wants to go to fucking Mars.
	And you're fucking nagging him on Valentine's Day.
	Oh, I'm not getting enough attention.
	Let me just completely go nuclear and go to the media, go to the New York Post, do a fucking tell-all in one of these tabloid magazines.
	Let me go public.
	Let me file a public lawsuit.
	She played herself.
	I really believe that a large part of her thought that she was going to be special and that she could change how he operates once she got close to him.
	And then when she's seen that having his child didn't make him any more invested in her than what she wanted him to be, she just lost it.
	She came cumbling.
	I think that's a good point.
	She thought that she was going to be able to change his ways and she was going to be the one.
	She was going to be, maybe they don't get married, but she was going to be his girl.
	I feel like she's like embarrassed now because she's like, she probably holds herself as a high-value woman.
	She's like, wait, like, he didn't drop everything for me.
	He didn't want to see me on Valentine's Day.
	So now she's like embarrassed and like crashing out and doing all this stuff.
	Yeah, but she pushed even the child because he was actually pointing out to not tell anyone that the child is of Elon.
	So for security, he literally pointed out in the messages of the lawsuit that he didn't want her to tell it just for like privacy, but mostly child.
	Yeah, the security, like, and it's crazy that she literally took it and poof, go ahead.
	She's selfish.
	It's all about it's crazy, honestly, putting her own child, her own baby, in that situation.
	Can I add to that?
	I just feel like it's kind of sad because I feel like she's so wrapped up in her own world and what she wants that, like, honestly, that child's gonna have a shitty life growing up because, you know, he's constantly gonna be worried about his safety and constantly worried about the problems of his parents.
	And the parents aren't able to give their 100% into the child because they're so worried about what's going on with the media and lawsuits.
	And it's just like it's messy and it's really sad for the kids.
	A little woman in her 30s is probably more capable.
	It's not a oopsies.
	It's a it's not like you hit a car a curb on the highway and you're like, oops.
	No, like she already has the other kid.
	That's actually what's crazy though.
	She kind of fumbled the bag a little bit because he wanted to put another baby in her.
	She could have got two, maybe three kids, but instead, oh, Valentine's Day, I'm not getting attention.
	It's crazy.
	I'm surprised.
	Oh, I'm so, I'm so confused.
	Why is the world's richest and busiest man not giving me the attention that I want?
	Fumble totally.
	I have a question.
	Yeah.
	Because I just found out about who she was today.
	So who was she before?
	Like, does she just get her clout off of like does she get like her clout off of just like the media like causing problems or does she have like her own business?
	She, my understanding is she has no following anywhere besides Twitter.
	So she's a political pundit, a political commentator.
	She's been on like Fox as a talking head.
	She's been on podcasts and this sort of thing.
	But she has no presence outside of she doesn't have her like own thing.
	Like, she's not like a comment.
	She has her own business.
	Like we all kind of have like our own things that we're doing.
	She had a big following.
	She had a big following on Twitter.
	Where is the following coming from?
	Well, I mean, she posts on Twitter.
	It is a content platform.
	I haven't done a deep dive in all her stuff, but she's supposedly a conservative political pundit.
	And she's well connected.
	She networks.
	She's good at that, I suppose.
	And a lot of these people were signal boosting her.
	I mean, part of her big following is she started fucking Elon Musk.
	And then he started boosting her on the timeline because he would respond to her shit.
	He would retweet it, whatever.
	So if you have Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, signal boosting you, that's going to add a lot of sort of credit, not credibility, but.
	And then the Kamala tweet, like that seemed in line during that timeline.
	Oh, there's a bunch of stuff.
	Yeah, I think also I think also she was posting her revenue from X.
	She was getting crazy, yeah, crazy income from X, and it had to do with Elon boosting her.
	And I think a lot of people was like, they suspected they were fucking at that point.
	May I ask, when did she start coming after you?
	In 2023.
	A while ago.
	Yeah, she made a couple tweets.
	It was actually really one-sided.
	So I think we invited her.
	I'm trying to remember.
	I think she either tweeted about us and then we sent her an invite because we wanted to debate her on her criticisms of the podcast.
	I'm pretty sure she declined.
	I could look up the DM history.
	And she made a couple tweets and then I think at one point I renamed one of those sex dolls for like two episodes.
	Or sorry, not sex dolls.
	Mannequins.
	Mannequins.
	I renamed one of the mannequins Ashley St. Clair for two episodes.
	And then she saw it.
	That was and that was it.
	I didn't fucking talk shit back.
	I'm not a shit.
	I typically, if somebody talks shit back, 99% of the time, I just ignore it.
	But then she fucking kept tweeting and then she's in the tweet, a Twitter space, which is the one where I asked her her body count that I pulled up before.
	And then I confront her in the Twitter space.
	And then afterwards, she now deleted tweets and videos.
	She had a fucking meltdown.
	But in that Twitter space, she's leaking private information about me.
	She's talking shit.
	She's, what else was she doing?
	Talking shit, leaking private info.
	And I forgot what, I don't know, doing just talking shit.
	So I joined the Twitter space and then I asked her the body count question to fucking troll her because she's been talking shit about me for months.
	Literally, like almost a year.
	She was talking shit before I went into the Twitter space and confronted her.
	Trolling her about her body count.
	Then she lost shit.
	Then after that, she went on multiple podcasts, talked shit about me then.
	So that's the history of the beef.
	Beyond that, I ain't really talked about this girl.
	But now, I'm going to talk about it.
	She's in the news cycle.
	I'm going to talk about it because.
	She's giving you something to talk about.
	Yeah.
	Sounds like she used you to get something to talk about in other podcasts, honestly.
	To get her name out there.
	Yeah.
	Just to have something to debate.
	To be relevant.
	Yeah.
	Like the conservative was against.
	But I mean, yeah, conservative.
	Do you have a take on this?
	I do have a take on this.
	So I've always had a crush on Elon Musk.
	I just, I don't know what it was.
	And this was back before he was political.
	This was back when he was kind of a little guy.
	And if this, if I was in this situation, I agree with what you were saying.
	I mean, this is really just a cry for attention.
	And if I was in her situation, I would really just keep it low-key and understand that Elon is in his political career right now.
	And he does not have time to hang around on red carpets next to beautiful women like Jeff Bezos does.
	Even though I think Elon Musk would look really cool with that young hot girl and like as an accessory.
	I just don't think that's in the cards for him right now.
	And I feel like you get more bees with honey than vinegar.
	So I think if you just kind of play it safe, play it smart with people who are at that level of, you know, life, like Elon Musk.
	Yeah.
	That's like, yeah, that's my take.
	Okay.
	No, that's good.
	And I think, I mean, we don't know all the details yet.
	I mean, he was providing her with this really swanky New York apartment.
	Allegedly, it was anywhere from $10,000 to $40,000 apartment.
	She had a security detail that he was paying for.
	We don't know.
	Like, I don't think this is a situation of he just ghosted her.
	I'm pretty sure he was paying her money.
	We don't know the details of that, though.
	So this, like, they probably had some sort of arrangement.
	I don't think he just totally up and ghosted and she's destitute in the street and she's not being receiving any money.
	I think she's upset that he's kind of not giving her the attention that she wants.
	And I mean, he's got to be paying her.
	They must have had some agreement.
	What the agreement was, I don't know.
	But in any case, if you're dealing with a man that rich, I mean, Q, if you want to speculate, just if they were dealing amongst each other, like, what is a multi-multi-billionaire offering to a woman in this sort of like a million dollars a year?
	A bit, like, how much is he just if they're coming to a mutual agreement without the court's involvement?
	I mean, is it a million a year that he's paying her?
	What do you think?
	I think it's somewhere between probably 500K and 1.5 mil, enough to keep her satiated and make sure she shut the fuck up.
	If she lives in New York, that's not going to be enough.
	A million, okay, millions.
	A million, maybe.
	But if her rent is 40K, well, he's paying the rent.
	He was paying for everything.
	Okay, that's okay.
	We don't know all the details, though.
	I mean, there's a lot of speculation.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	I mean, it was enough for her to be comfortable.
	And the point was: I'm going to send you money.
	You have my kid.
	Just be quiet.
	Keep the kid out of harm's way.
	Don't let the world know who the kid is, his last name, where he's located, and all of that.
	And she violated that contract.
	She breached that contract because of her own emotions.
	And she's selfish and she's entitled.
	That's what that boils down.
	I just, like, how far does somebody's greed go?
	Again, we don't know all the details of their arrangement.
	I want to say he's offering her.
	I mean, it could be, this guy could pay her $10 million a year and it's a blip to him.
	Like, but we don't know.
	But it's like, how far does your greed go?
	Now you want the attention and you want more money.
	Like, if he's our, if you guys have already, let's assume that here's the agreement that they already had in place.
	She gets a million a year for the next 20 years.
	That's $20 million.
	You're set for life, right?
	Why do you need to make it a spectacle at that point?
	You're good.
	Just fucking retire.
	Or don't retire, but like, don't fucking start all this meddling shit.
	Human are not satisfied.
	What's that?
	Human beings are not satisfied.
	Like, we're not.
	That's correct.
	We're never satisfied.
	Especially if you're dealing with a man like Elon Musk.
	For sure, she wants more.
	Do you think she deserves more than the manager?
	I don't think she deserves more, but I think she wants more.
	That's for sure.
	Yeah.
	That's exactly what she wants.
	She wants more.
	She wants the nuclear faith.
	This screenshot proved it.
	At the beginning, she always planned that before they were even talking.
	Yeah, that's the point.
	She already.
	Is there, I don't know if there's any lawyers in the chat who practice family law in New York City.
	New York City, my understanding is it's based on the father, or well, in this case, the father's income.
	So there's no cap on how much he could pay in child support.
	Now, I suspect this would come to some sort of settlement, probably.
	I don't know if the court's going to make a determination.
	But like, this guy makes, but a lot of it is stock, so I don't know how that plays into it.
	But like, if you're getting a percentage of somebody who makes billions of dollars a year, what does that look like?
	Is there, wait, is there a New York City?
	Wait, hold on.
	New York City child support calculator.
	Oh, God.
	Hold on.
	Let me look if there's a thing.
	Oh, oh, wait, I think I might have it.
	Hold on.
	Oh, here we go.
	Okay, Damien, I'm going to send this to you.
	We're going to do a little.
	We're going to see how much Elon Musk is in trouble with the New York City child support calculator.
	Daisy, I think you probably use this one too.
	But, you know, I don't know.
	Is this the one you use, Daisy?
	Probably.
	Okay, make it bigger, please.
	Bigger, bigger.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Enter the number.
	Okay, one.
	Enter the non-custodial.
	Uh here.
	Let me see if we Elon Musk gross income.
	I don't know if it would just chat.
	Chat.
	In the chat.
	Just ask Chatty P. What do you think?
	What do you think his gross annual income is?
	200 billion?
	No.
	What do you chat?
	What do you think his gross income is?
	100 million?
	No.
	I don't think he cash out.
	let's do 10 billion i know it's a yeah Okay.
	Do the total?
	What does that say?
	Huh?
	Oh, yeah, I guess you gotta get rid of the comments.
	Wait, what?
	Hold on.
	How many zeros are you?
	Wait, what?
	Wait.
	Wait, sorry.
	1.5 billion?
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Hold on.
	Wait, yeah, comma there, and then show me.
	Is that 1.53?
	No, billion.
	That's billion, right?
	Yes.
	Or wait.
	It's hard with all the zeros.
	Is it seven zeros or six zeros?
	I think it's seven.
	That's still a lot of zeros either way.
	So it's 1.5 billion.
	Two million zeros.
	What?
	That's 153 million?
	Yeah.
	No, I think.
	That's not billion.
	Wait, hold on.
	It's six.
	It's 1.5 billion.
	It's one.
	So 5.
	Okay.
	$1,530,000,000.
	What the fuck, New York?
	This is why there needs to be caps on child support.
	In no world does it take $1.53 billion to raise a kid.
	I know people in the chat are saying income, not net worth.
	I used $10 billion, guys.
	His net worth is what?
	$500 bill?
	Wait.
	Elon Musk?
	Net worth.
	$384 billion.
	If his net worth is $384 billion, I don't think that's crazy to say his income would be $10 billion.
	Right?
	That's probably low.
	Right?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, that's crazy, though.
	I have a couple chats coming.
	Q, can you read these?
	That's up.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Here, I'm going to have Aaliyah read it.
	Aaliyah, can you read it?
	So Elon Empire will span the globe, but seriously, as someone who generally supports Elon, this behavior is reprehensible.
	You can't go around knocking up women just because you're rich.
	Okay, well, he's got like a Genghis Khan thing going.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	Thank you, Ogle.
	Appreciate it.
	Brian, for $1 million cash post-tax, would you make amends with Ashley, move in with her, and help co-parent her Elon Davies?
	So if he's paying her $1.53 billion a year, first off, if I have a kid with Ashley St. Clair, is that income?
	Is child support income?
	Because I'll take a percent of the.
	You know, I'll have a kid with her.
	She ain't sharing shit with you, Brian.
	But look, if I can go after her child support, like if I can get child support from her child support, because at 1.53 billion, she's making more than me.
	Eh, I'll knock her up.
	But see, I'll be smart about it.
	I'll get three kids out of her.
	She fucked up.
	Elon wanted multiple kids.
	Brian wants triplets.
	Fuck yeah.
	But he has this obsession that the population of the world is actually decreasing and that we all should create more babies.
	He's been telling the same thing since like day one.
	That is true.
	But anyways, that's it for the Ashley St. Clair stuff.
	Wow.
	Can you get child support off of child support?
	Because like.
	What's up, Ashley?
	Shit.
	Fuck you, Brian.
	Misogynistic.
	Yeah, fucking degenerate.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying.
	Fuck it.
	That'll be the ultimate bamboozle.
	Oh, I'm taking some of your child support now.
	Okay, whatever.
	All right, I'm going to move it on to the next thing here.
	I need to get up for just a moment, though, to change a couple things.
	Okay, let's see here.
	We're going to, you know what, Q?
	You know what, Q?
	What's up?
	I need to get up.
	So here, how about this?
	Does anybody have like a dating thing that they want to touch on while I gotta get up for a sec?
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	When I first moved to California, I was living in the tech area where Google, Facebook, the Zuckerbergs, everything.
	Not attracted to the tech man.
	What I was seeing or experiencing was on the dating apps, there was three men that I came across.
	One I was about to go on a date with.
	We were about to meet up, and he goes, I should probably let you know, I'm married, have three children.
	My wife has a girlfriend.
	She wants me to have a girlfriend as well.
	Open marriage.
	I met two other men in that area.
	The wives left them for another woman because they opened up their marriage to a threesome.
	What I ended up hearing from the men who got their hearts broken was the women were actually attracted to more the feminine.
	They were a more masculine woman.
	So the man felt emasculated.
	He was then very lost because he thought he found the woman of his dreams.
	There are a lot of emasculated men in California.
	That was proof to me there's something a little off here.
	What is happening in that, in your opinion?
	A lot of emasculated men in California or you just feel it.
	There's a whole bunch in that, but they'll opening up the marriage to threesomes.
	I know that's a man's, that's a kink.
	But the, and these were beautiful women.
	They're not butch-looking women.
	I do worry that men don't know the difference between a truly feminine woman and a masculine woman.
	So could we maybe go into that?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I mean, the first thing you have to look at is this whole boss babe phenomenon that's going on.
	Like a lot of these women, like, do you know if their wives, I don't know what conversations you had with them, but do you know if their wives had like their own things going on?
	Did they have like high income levels?
	Were they doing things to where they were in positions of authority, leadership?
	The men, you know, acquiesce to what they want.
	Do you know the dynamics of these marriages?
	California, you do need mainly a two-income household.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, a lot of women are pursuing their own money.
	Kind of what I'm getting to get back to Ashley, even with all the money, she still wants something going on in her life.
	Some women still need a hobby.
	So that's, yeah.
	I think a lot of men, well, first, I will say feminism contributes to that.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	But I think men struggle setting boundaries.
	Like a lot of guys, they conform to what their women want and they try to please their women way too much and they don't want to lose their women.
	And that in itself is feminine because a lot of women, sometimes you have to put your foot down.
	Sometimes you have to tell your woman, I'm not going for this.
	This is how it's going to be.
	If you don't like it, you can get the step in.
	Like essentially.
	And I find that often, like in my clientele, a lot of guys who have lost their balls in a relationship, they're scared to open their mouth up to their woman and tell their woman what they won't accept.
	They're scared to discipline their woman in a way to where they think their woman would leave them.
	And to me, what that conveys is that the woman has more leverage in a relationship.
	She's higher in mate value than he is because a man should never be scared to lose his woman if it means he keeps his respect.
	You know what I mean?
	So a lot of men give up respect.
	They give up footing in a relationship in order to please their woman, to keep the relationship going.
	And that's true that to some degree as a man, if you want the relationship to work, then you got to be willing to hear your woman out, be a little bit vulnerable here and there.
	Of course, she has to say, I has to say.
	You can delegate, hey, baby, you want to do this?
	Give her options, but ultimately you make the decision.
	But when it comes to things like opening up a marriage, that's not a good idea on any man's behalf because what a woman is going to do, if a woman wants an open marriage, then essentially her respect for you and her attraction to you has diminished.
	And if she's stepping outside of the marriage, she's bound to have an emotional connection with whoever she's letting in on that end.
	And the fact that she already lacks that respect for you to allow an open marriage means that she's already one foot out the door.
	Yeah.
	You get what I'm saying?
	You get what I'm saying?
	So you said the guys initiated the open marriage or the women suggested?
	The women did.
	The women were.
	It was actually, they saw it instead of having more children, they're like, okay, it's feeling a little stale, is what it sounded like to me.
	So they involved a third party.
	Exactly.
	So that's a gateway to a divorce anyway.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's a gateway to a divorce.
	Yeah, I don't believe men should ever accept a woman saying, hey, I think we should have an open marriage from the moment your woman said that, you lost your woman.
	I feel like instead of opening your marriage, like they should actually try to have a better communication without having the fear, like two adults sitting down and be like, hey, you not maybe doing this makes me feel less loved or I feel lack of attention.
	And same for the men.
	I feel like people should actually try to be more.
	The caveat here, every single one of them married in their 20s.
	Early.
	had children very young.
	The woman did not develop communication.
	And this is where I get the push for marriage, family.
	I understand that completely.
	I'm all on board for it.
	But women need time to be able to learn about themselves and what they truly want.
	And then they can fully, in my opinion, be led by a man.
	I personally think a man helps them see that though.
	But that's a man who understands who he is and knows where he's going.
	Because as a guy, like with my girlfriend, I'm six years older than my girlfriend.
	She's 26.
	But when I step into her life and I tell her what we're doing, how we're going to do things, I tell her what her role is, even though sometimes she gets caught up in her own way.
	That's in any relationship.
	I redirect her and let her know, listen, I know you.
	Even, I tell her this, I know you better than you know yourself because I'm good at analyzing human behavior.
	I see the little snarky faces you make.
	I see the little things that you do that can become problematic down the line.
	It's better that you learn how to check that right now because if you don't, we're not going to work because I'm not going to put up with that.
	And that's just like teaching your woman, molding your woman as you go along.
	It helps her understand that your identity is going to be essentially incorporated to who I am.
	We have a relationship.
	So it's not going to be about you and how you operate all the time and what you want.
	You're going to have to consider how would I feel about what you're doing.
	You're going to have to move considering what would he think about this.
	And I think a guy who knows who he is and has established himself as the masculine presence in the relationship has no issue conveying that.
	And a woman who really respects him and wants to be with him has no issue following.
	Yeah, definitely.
	True.
	How long did it take you to feel in that competent role of I'm ready to lead a woman?
	I mean, I've kind of always been like that.
	Like it came natural for me because I've always been a leader.
	Like I don't have a big brother.
	Like my step pops was in my life.
	Like I didn't have my biological dad.
	So like a lot of the social circles I was in and everything, I gained my competence through like sports popularity through attracting the girls that other guys wanted.
	And I was good at doing what I did.
	I didn't follow the crowds.
	I did what I wanted.
	I talked to whoever I want.
	I did whatever I want.
	There was nobody over me that I was trying to conform to or follow or looked up to or anything like that.
	So I just learned how to be a leader on my own.
	Just, I was a leader.
	You know, guys peer pressured me, yo, you want to smoke?
	No, I don't want that shit.
	Get that shit out of my face.
	Or, you know, just playing sports.
	When you go into sports, other guys start to look up to you.
	So that popularity sort of sort of masks from me being competent in other ways.
	And I realized that the respect comes when other guys respect you.
	Women respect you too.
	It's just the natural, it's the way the social order works.
	They see that you command respect from other guys and they want to know who you are.
	They want to know what you're about.
	And women have also told me that I can be intimidating in a sense to where they, I look like I don't play.
	I look like I don't take shit.
	And they're right.
	So they come correct.
	I've been approached by women all the time.
	Like I get approached.
	I've been cold approached by women.
	Women slid in my DMs all the time.
	I've been on the shade room 50,000 likes as a bachelor, eligible bachelor, et cetera, et cetera.
	And they approach me with respect.
	They approach me trying to understand what I'm about.
	They approach me as if, look, I want to be a girl.
	I'm going to put my best foot forward.
	I'm going to show you why I should be the one that you commit to.
	And that's always been my experience, even starting in high school.
	So I've never, I understand men who haven't experienced that, but I try to teach men that that's how you need to approach dating.
	The emasculation comes from fear.
	They already fear what the woman is going to do.
	They fear that the woman is going to leave them.
	They haven't established themselves.
	They're not confident in themselves and what they built and how they operate.
	So they believe that that's why a lot of men lead with money too.
	Because they don't know how to assert themselves emotionally.
	Sorry.
	But it's already like if you start immediately being somebody else because you're afraid that you're not going to be with her.
	You're already starting a relationship like you're not yourself.
	It's like immediately it's going to already end.
	Sooner or later, you're going to be burned out.
	You're going to be depressed because you're keeping up this facade, which it's not you.
	And this is the thing.
	My number one thing to men is be authentic.
	Be yourself.
	Be yourself and let her decide if she likes you for who you are.
	So many men trying to put on a facade to impress women thinking, oh, she wants me to be this kind of guy, so I'm going to try to be this kind of guy.
	She already has the leverage because you're playing into her hands.
	You're trying to be who you think she wants you to be.
	No, be yourself.
	Express to her what you don't like.
	Express to her what you expect.
	Express to her how you want her to be.
	And if she says, nah, that's not me, then say, okay, the hell with you.
	May I ask one more question on this?
	The leading her out of bad behaviors, if you will.
	What I gathered from one was she never got the chance in her idea of the perfect world to explore because they had children so early.
	In my mind, a woman kind of figuring herself out a bit in her 20s does give room for where she's going to be all in later on in life.
	If a man's plucking from like the 19, 20, 21, 22, those are very a woman is just going to either play, manipulate, like she's kind of in her dark feminine, but she doesn't know any better yet.
	So I do have issues with men kind of grooming who are in their 30s.
	Hold on.
	I'm coming back to this one.
	Okay, go ahead.
	What about grooming?
	This is a very California thing I've been seeing here.
	You would get a lot of shit in Wisconsin if a 30-some-year-old man was dating an early 20-year-old woman.
	Wisconsin.
	But anyways, whatever.
	So, okay.
	How do you define grooming?
	Let's be precise in our terms.
	So, well, we have someone here who's 18.
	She's going to school.
	She's forming her ideas about the world.
	So, let's say she meets a man in his 30s and he goes, I claim you.
	I want you.
	And she likes him.
	She goes, Okay, I agree to this.
	What I'm trying to speak of is, let's say, because she never got the chance to explore the world on her own, really, in a way.
	What do you mean by explore the world?
	What does that mean?
	A lot of women want to travel.
	So?
	They don't want to travel just always with a partner.
	What does traveling have to do with it?
	That's exploring the world.
	So?
	Is that a prerequisite to being a well-developed human being?
	Can I get a show of hands of who all has had the dream of.
	Yeah, but hold on, hold on.
	So you realize for the vast majority of human history, people didn't leave like their immediate 10-mile radius for like their entire lives.
	Would it be predatory for somebody to date somebody who hasn't traveled?
	Is that what you're trying to say?
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about her forming her own ideas.
	Why do you need to travel to do that?
	I'm just saying a lot of what when I hear about dating profiles, that's what women say they want, what men say they want.
	Oh, yeah, you can want to travel.
	There's nothing wrong with wanting to travel.
	Why would that be any sort of negative indicator on the man who wants to date her because of her lack thereof of any sort of traveling?
	I picture the meek, quiet, unopinionated woman.
	Oh, so you're describing exactly what men want.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So what do you think is more predatory?
	Let's say a man who's dating a 30-year-old woman who's never left her hometown ever, or a man who dates a 19-year-old who's been to like, who's done a fuck ton of traveling even at 19.
	Which one do you think is more predatory?
	I'm confused by that.
	Which, by the way, I reject the premise that it's predatory at all, but in your worldview, which one's more predatory?
	A man.
	Can you rephrase the?
	I don't know how else to rephrase it.
	It's super simple.
	Well, how old is the man?
	35.
	Okay, so choosing the 30 versus the 19 year old, the one right out of high school?
	But the 30-year-old, she grew up in a really small town and she's never traveled versus the 19-year-old.
	She's some OF girl who lives in Los Angeles.
	She's been to Miami.
	She's been to Vegas.
	She used to be a stripper.
	She's done all that shit.
	Which one's more predatory?
	Okay, definitely.
	I see your point.
	I do see your point.
	I'm not asking you which one.
	I still think it's the 19-year-old.
	But she's traveled.
	That wasn't my point.
	Okay, I was saying a woman who's shaping her ideas of how the world works.
	I just threw travel in because that's usually a desirable here.
	Define grooming.
	Grooming.
	Yeah, what's grooming?
	A man or a woman.
	It could be a woman with a, I think the word simp.
	Yeah.
	Grooming is.
	It could be an older woman, sure.
	Yeah.
	I'll have to share what I think truly a feminine woman does.
	She understands her own nervous system, her own emotions, her own wants, needs, and can speak from those.
	Grooming gets messed up if a woman hasn't developed all that stuff.
	If he's telling her, this is how I think you feel.
	This is what I consistently think you need outside of money, how to lead her life, and all those things.
	A woman still needs to understand her own.
	I don't know what she's doing.
	Okay, so how about this?
	A 30-year-old man dating a 20-year-old, do you think he's grooming her?
	I think she needs a little time to understand herself.
	Should she not be allowed to vote?
	I kind of actually agree with that as well.
	Okay, so when should the voting age be?
	And is it just for women?
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Like, do women, do young women not have like mental faculties?
	I think she could take a test to vote, to be honest with you.
	Okay.
	But when should women be allowed to vote then, since we're taking away their agency?
	i don't think it's an age thing i think it's a that's what we're talking about We're talking about age.
	But I did.
	No, so you want to take away, you want women to not be able to vote until what age?
	That's not what I'm saying here.
	It's a competency thing.
	Wait, so just be clear, women can't vote on the world.
	Hold on, just to be clear.
	Women can vote on infinitely complex political and social things, but they can't decide who they want to date.
	I'm just confused.
	So either women have agency and they can vote on like all these really complex issues, but they can't choose to date a guy.
	I'm just confused.
	Do you want a woman who's messed up pretty hormonally, partying a lot, does it really loss to vote for our country?
	No, I'm asking you the question.
	That's what I'm saying, though.
	I'm saying some of these young girls.
	I would be fine with raising the voting age for everybody.
	Okay, but some of these young girls that I have seen on this podcast are pretty lost in the sense of where they're accepting money from much, much older men.
	And these girls look like they go out a lot.
	They're obviously okay.
	No, I have an issue with OnlyFans.
	I have a big issue with OnlyFans.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	These are the people voting for our country.
	So I'm not saying it's an age thing.
	It's a very good thing.
	I'm not going to let you escape from this define grooming.
	We have to define our terms if we're going to have a conversation about this.
	She's no longer a human being.
	He's completely telling her who she is because she has not had the liberty to learn about herself.
	Well, let me ask.
	Do relationships not help you understand who you are?
	True, true.
	So when you say he's telling her who she is, like, he's not telling her who she is.
	She might be learning who she is based on what he says to her and the conflict that they go through.
	I don't think there's an age limit on, well, I don't want to say not an age limit, but if you're talking about like a 20-year-old woman and a 30-year-old man, she's fully competent and cognizant of so far who she is, how she behaves, and if she likes a guy, what she's going to do in that relationship.
	Like, women know right from wrong.
	They know what men don't like.
	They know what's disrespectful to men or what men can perceive as disrespectful.
	And if they don't, if you're in a relationship, if I'm in a relationship with a younger woman and I tell her, you know, hey, partying and clubbing is not a good look, or there's guys, you're putting us at risk.
	You're putting a relationship at risk.
	There's guys who could put things in your drink.
	You could end up making some pretty, you know, fucked up decisions.
	You're leading from the healthy masculine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I have a lot of.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	The images I have in my head are the these are real relationships in this area.
	I know a 25-year-old with a 50-year-old man.
	He is paying for everything.
	Okay.
	He, car, apartment.
	He already has kids.
	He can cheat.
	He's, he's, oh, okay.
	He's older dating a younger.
	Yes.
	She's 25, 26.
	I don't know how old she is now.
	He's much older.
	I know these people.
	But is she a sugar baby?
	Pretty much.
	That's happening quite often.
	And you're okay with that.
	No, no, no, no.
	That's what I'm speaking.
	That's to me.
	She's 25, though.
	Wait, he's grooming her?
	He's grooming her.
	Maybe we misunderstand grooming then.
	Or not misunderstand, but we have a different idea of what grooming is.
	If it's consensual, is it grooming?
	Wait, what is the mentality?
	She has a lot of issues with it because he's like, you can leave.
	I'm going to cheat.
	I'm going to do what I want.
	She's 25.
	She's a sugar.
	Wait, she's a sugar baby, though.
	No, they're in a relationship.
	Yeah, but it's closed on her end, open on his?
	Correct.
	Yeah, what's wrong with that?
	If they, look, I agreed to it.
	Yeah, but that's true.
	That's true.
	That's right.
	You might personally disagree with that dynamic, but if he was a friend.
	I was like, I'm not sure if I can do it.
	If he went, if he brought it to her and here's the terms up front.
	And she was like, and she agreed to it.
	I don't actually see what's wrong with it.
	I do.
	I want to say this.
	I wasn't agreeing with you because if they both agree to it, then what the hell's the problem?
	Like, I think it's their thing they're going to do, but what they want to do.
	But like, 25 is old enough.
	Like, you know what you're doing.
	Like, that's not at that point.
	Like, I don't think it's grooming.
	Like, I might think of grooming the wrong way then.
	I mean, you give it a negative connotation.
	Like, you know, you associate it with me.
	That's why I thought grooming was like whatever.
	You're speaking of the woman's experience matters.
	I'm on board with that.
	I'm talking about the men who the woman's experience doesn't matter.
	That to me is grooming.
	Why do we, why?
	Wait, hold on.
	So I have a question.
	One at a time.
	So it's grooming if the guy wants to date a woman who doesn't have certain life experiences.
	Like she hasn't traveled that much.
	She hasn't been fucked by a bunch of dudes.
	Is that what no, that's not at all what I'm saying.
	But what is grooming?
	She's not allowed to speak for what feels good for her or not.
	That's what I'm thinking grooming was.
	She's not allowed to speak.
	She's not allowed to voice her needs, her wants.
	How about this?
	If a 30-year-old man is dating a 40-year-old woman, but she's not allowed to do any of that, is that grooming?
	I think so.
	So a younger man can groom a younger man can groom.
	I think it's more like controlling than anything.
	Maybe that's one of the things.
	When I think of grooming, like, I mean, I've, I've Googled it, I think of like, yeah, what's the Google definition?
	Well, there's a couple different things.
	I would like to know that.
	So there's like the historical term where it was, for example, let's see here.
	The practice or excuse me, the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity.
	So for example, like the prince would be groomed to become king one day.
	So he would be taught diplomacy and be taught these things so that when he's young, he could be prepared to be the king one day and know how to navigate diplomacy, politics, et cetera.
	There's this next definition, which is maybe closer to what you're saying: the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act, such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization.
	Yeah, I don't think it's grooming.
	Yeah, no.
	Maybe I'm thinking more control.
	Yeah, I think it's just controlling.
	But why are we using like therapy speak?
	Is it a therapy word?
	Grooming.
	I feel like that's kind of like a bit of a buzzword.
	It's called the spin.
	It's like you're using the spin to paint something in such a way that it's going to be perceived negatively.
	What I'm trying, I guess, okay, controlling.
	What I was trying to get at is the idea that just because a man is providing a lot of money.
	Okay.
	Damien, can you close the door?
	A woman's going to, like what we were just talking about with Ashley, could feed into that, get the money, but she's not truly, like, he may be devotional to him.
	She's not truly in it.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Who's grooming who in this situation?
	Is he grooming?
	I regret now saying the word grooming.
	Okay.
	We'll move off of grooming, but you have a problem with, it sounds like older men dating younger women.
	Because I think the younger woman hasn't quite developed.
	I know the whole maturity thing is one thing, but a young woman hasn't really developed emotional regulation.
	Really?
	I mean, some men, older men, don't develop that for a while.
	I think you can find these levels of development at any age, though.
	I mean, I'm 35.
	As somebody who's dated women older than me, my age, younger, I've met really cool, amazing, like well-put together younger women, you know, 20, whatever.
	And then I've met women who are older than me, women who are my age, who are fucking basket cases.
	Fucking insane.
	Like literally the terrible people.
	So this idea that, oh, you like, I think there's this tendency, especially when you're young.
	I think, like, when I was maybe in high school or in my early 20s, you look up to people who are in their 30s, 40s, 50s.
	You think these people have it all together.
	A lot of these people are still just as dumb as they were when they were younger.
	Like this idea, actually, I think a lot of people get worse because if you've got mental illness of some kind, that shit typically doesn't get better.
	It gets worse over time.
	If you're dealing with a personality disorder, excuse me, personality disorder, BPD, bipolar, NPD, whatever it is, that shit gets worse as you get older.
	It does not get better unless you've had some pretty intensive psychiatric care or therapy.
	Even then, I don't think that most of that therapy stuff is bullshit.
	What about the whole idea that a young woman who hasn't been tainted by a lot of men?
	That just body count.
	I'm saying I think this is a certain red pill says this, but young women tend to come with less baggage.
	Is it?
	Do you think that's true or not?
	Oh, because you described one that I do agree with: with the wants to go to parties, wants to get brought around the world by, yeah.
	But how about this?
	Like, can I ask you a question?
	So, you're you said you're 36, right?
	Yes.
	Do you have more baggage now than you did at 18?
	Of course.
	Life provides baggage, yeah.
	The more, the longer you live, the more experiences you've had, good and bad.
	Exactly, but what is that in a man saying, I don't want a woman because she does to me.
	She doesn't have baggage.
	What's wrong?
	What would be wrong with that if that's a man's standard?
	I want a woman with as little baggage as possible.
	What is actually wrong with wanting somebody who doesn't have baggage or who has less of it?
	And also, if shit gets hard, do you think you're truly capable of leading her through the...
	I think that there's the opposite.
	I think the more wounds you've inflicted, honestly, I think in some situations, not all, sometimes you can get thicker skins.
	Sometimes you can develop more of a resolve.
	I actually think the more wounds you have, I think it makes you more susceptible to a subsequent wound.
	So, like, if you've been punched in the face, this happens with MMA fighters.
	If they start getting a bunch of scar tissue, they become much more likely to bleed from that location had there not been any scar tissue at all.
	And so you see this often with fighters.
	Their scar tissue just opens up super easily.
	They just, whole face, super bloodied up.
	I don't know if that's a perfect one-to-one comparison, but like this idea that, oh, as a woman, I've been through so much shit, so much trauma, so much baggage.
	I don't think a lot of people heal.
	Like, I think you have trust issues now.
	You're going to be moving in a certain type of way.
	Are you going to be able to love me as deeply?
	Are you kind of on guard?
	Are you reserved?
	Are you holding something back?
	I think most people, their first love, probably going to, not always, but like you're a little bit more on guard after you've dealt with a bunch of different situations.
	Yeah, so that's what I was saying.
	When you say you want a woman, you think women should be able to explore their own ideas, develop emotionally.
	That also endures negativity that comes with that.
	So it's a catch-22 in a sense because now you have this woman.
	If this woman has experienced life, she's traveled, she's developed her own identity.
	She's got some scars from doing that.
	And that's less attractive to a man.
	That's essentially what he's saying.
	Some men might appreciate it.
	They might can endure it.
	But if a guy prefers a younger woman, it's typically because her impressionability is to his advantage.
	It means that she hasn't endured some of the things that would make her relationship habits more pernicious.
	You get what I'm saying?
	I do.
	So the issue that's coming up in me with this is women are kind of raised, especially if the father was in their life, to want to go after and live a full life.
	So now you're telling women, no, you should have only your sole focus be about getting a man.
	That's not what we're saying.
	Yeah, we're having a discussion about age gap relationships.
	You have objections to age gap relationships.
	You think it's predatory.
	But if she doesn't do that in her 20s, then she has a lot of baggage and then men don't want her.
	That's what I'm hearing you say.
	Did not say that whatsoever, but let me ask you a question.
	When you were younger, did you date older men?
	No.
	You've never had an age gap relationship?
	No.
	My... No.
	I was raised with a mother who is seven years older than her father and they're still together.
	Okay.
	So I had a very different.
	Yeah.
	So you've always dated guys who are like one or two years around you, pretty much?
	Yeah.
	I have dated younger.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but usually close in age.
	I appreciate the commonality.
	I want to get a question for the whole panel on the age gap relationship things.
	Who here is like fine with age gap relationships?
	Or who here thinks it's predatory grooming?
	Predatory or grooming?
	Let me put an or in there.
	I'm on both.
	You gotta speak into the life.
	I'm on both ends.
	What does that mean?
	Meaning, like, I myself have had age gaps, and I think women mature sooner than men.
	But I also think, like, who do men, like, who do women have baggage from?
	Like, a lot of times, it's men doing certain things or toxic behavior, and they just stick through it out of love.
	And then they don't take accountability for what they've done to that woman, and then they move on to someone who's more likely to be naive or more likely to just take it because she's still kind of coming out of that Disney fairy tale.
	Haven't like had my heart broken or had a lot of trauma.
	So I'm more hopeful.
	I'm more willing.
	And then she'll put up with his behavior.
	And then the cycle repeats where she then gets older and has baggage.
	And then they go for someone that's younger.
	And I think I don't have like a problem with age gap.
	Like I have friends that have age gap and like I've had it myself as well.
	But I do think that a man's inability to stay by a woman like long term and not just go for someone younger and then someone younger is.
	Men's inability.
	Didn't you, you ended it with your 10-year relationship, didn't you?
	Yes.
	Oh, so wouldn't that indicate your inability to stay with somebody long term?
	He was younger than me.
	So?
	You were in a relationship with him?
	Well, I'm just talking about in general.
	Yeah, but like women overwhelmingly end relationships and initiate divorces.
	So this idea that men are like throwing you guys out, I don't really think that's the case.
	I think you guys overwhelmingly end relationships.
	Yeah.
	I mean, we can go around the table, but I'd be pretty confident to say most of you guys probably say, oh, I ended it.
	Yes.
	Okay, but so what, how would that be evidence then?
	How would that be evidence of men just like discarding women when it's women who like you guys like to say just one thing?
	Like the woman leaves doesn't mean that like he hasn't done damage to her.
	Oh, sure.
	I agree.
	Like the man could be physically violent and but I think those instances tend to be, I mean some women have like some sort of attraction to like abusive toxic men.
	I don't know how much of the responsibility on that is on women for like intentionally picking like going after like toxic jerks who are abusive.
	I don't think you should be abusive to begin with, but like if you're attracted to that kind of guy, don't be surprised when you actually end up getting abused.
	But this idea, like this idea that men are commitment phobic, it's interesting to me.
	So I don't really think men are scared of commitment.
	I think, and perhaps even if they are, there's some degree of justification for their fear of commitment because when you guys do get commitment as women, you overwhelmingly end the commitment.
	So who's actually scared of commitment?
	80% of divorces initiated by women.
	If you were just talking about like relationships and breakups, I've had a lot of women on the show overwhelmingly.
	They say, oh, I broke up with like most of my boyfriends.
	Maybe sure it's because that's the young woman.
	That's what I was just saying.
	What do you mean?
	Hold on.
	What is this?
	Because a woman, if she's dating someone, she's not fully knowing what she's wanting in life.
	She doesn't have her own inner compass.
	And she has a man come in and things don't feel good for her.
	He's, it sucks.
	And I feel for men in this.
	I genuinely feel for men in this.
	But he's leading them into a vision of you're my forever, where she's waffling because she's like, oh, but I'm looking at other men.
	Or I want to do this thing.
	Or I want to explore.
	That's what I was literally talking about.
	Those women did that because they all married in their early 20s.
	He was, I don't know how much older he was.
	I mean, she belongs to the streets.
	If she's thinking that and she's in a relationship with a good dude, back to the streets.
	Back to the streets, she goes.
	But I mean, I guess we can address that really quick.
	But I do want to go around the table.
	Like, everybody's, are you cool with age gap relationships?
	Daisy, okay.
	It doesn't matter to me.
	I'm not.
	Oh, it doesn't matter to me.
	I think it would be hypocritical for me to speak on it because I've dated guys a lot younger than me, a lot older than me.
	Okay.
	So it doesn't matter.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, no, I'm fine with it.
	I have dated someone younger than me and someone older than me, and I definitely prefer the older men.
	Okay.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I feel like older men are like more mature.
	I'd say like from now on, I'd only date a guy that's like at least two years older than me.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Same as you said before.
	It's not about the age.
	It's about the experience.
	It's about the experience the people had in their past.
	It's not really about the age.
	So to me, it's fine.
	I had mainly older partners.
	And just my actual relationship is younger than me, but this is my first.
	And I just met him and we were in the same, we had the same opinions.
	So we just clicked.
	But I don't see the age as like.
	I agree.
	I mean.
	Okay.
	Hunter, what about you?
	Yes, I am okay with age gap relationships.
	But how about this?
	Because I want to go on the using the numbers you provided.
	A 35-year-old man dating a 20-year-old.
	Are there objections there from anyone on the panel where there weren't previously weren't any objections?
	As long as they met when they were older.
	She was 20, he was 35.
	That's when they started dating.
	I think it's totally fine.
	Nothing.
	I've dated older.
	I mean, I had that exact same age gap before, but I wouldn't necessarily want that for like my child.
	Oh, okay.
	Look, I think.
	And there are very smart women.
	I don't mean to discredit you.
	No, I think it's okay if he dates a dumb woman too.
	He can date a dumb chick.
	That's going to hold out.
	That's going to hold out for the long term.
	Here's the thing, though.
	Look, I think an intelligent woman is a benefit for a couple reasons.
	One, like, you can actually hopefully difficult.
	So, like, if you're arguing with somebody who just doesn't understand logic, that's fucking brutal.
	That's true.
	Because you literally can't communicate.
	So, like, an intelligent woman, like, if you're like, no, you're fucking wrong, you don't have to say the F-word.
	But if you're like, oh, here's why you're wrong.
	And she's like, oh, I can logically understand that.
	But if you're just arguing with somebody who's just stupid and doesn't understand logic, and this can be both men and women, by the way, you can be, maybe you guys have been arguing with a guy and you're like, he's clearly wrong, but he just doesn't fucking recognize it.
	Like, both men and women can do this shit for sure.
	But like, so an intelligent woman, you can actually like, she'll actually be able to see it if she's wrong.
	And a stupid woman can too, but they can also double down on like the most ridiculous logic.
	So, but also, when it comes to stupid women, you know, like there's kind of nice about something who somebody who's simple.
	Because if you're intelligent, that's where all like that.
	I think if you're intelligent, this is crazy.
	Like Paris Hilton, well, she wasn't actually stupid.
	Like somebody who's just kind of simple.
	Like if you're, you know, the really smart people, like they all, they all suffer from like anxiety and depression and all this shit because they're fucking thinking about like, god damn, in like a billion years, the fucking universe is going to, whatever.
	You know, they're thinking about existential shit and they're too smart for their own good.
	Ignorance is bliss.
	Yeah.
	So there's something nice about somebody who's just, as long as you're pleasant and simple to say, I don't know.
	There's something a little nice about somebody who's simple.
	You know, they don't have to be a fucking rocket scientist.
	I don't want somebody who's going to be a problem, though, because you can have a low IQ or you can be stupid and fuck shit up in certain ways.
	But if you're just kind of simp, I don't need no fucking mensa, like mensa, that's the society for like high IQ individuals.
	Rocket scientist lady.
	I don't know.
	I'll date a smart woman.
	But like, what's wrong with a stupid woman?
	She can be stupid and agreeable.
	Exactly.
	The agreeable thing.
	So may I ask, how do men figure that out?
	Like, how do you figure out if a woman is, she's going to be unstable?
	Because you don't really know that until conflict arises, right?
	Yeah, there's nothing.
	No, there's a lot of signs.
	I would love to hear what the signs are.
	Well, I actually, I have a question for you because you said earlier, you were like, it's very hard to become my girlfriend.
	So how, like, what did your girlfriend do that you were like, okay, yeah, like, that's the one?
	She was all in on a level that basically, if I could write down how I want my woman to behave, she pretty much checked every box.
	She, she, there was no, there was no pride.
	There was no ego.
	There was no insecurity.
	She tell me she missed me.
	She had no insecurity?
	Wow.
	Do you actually attracted to her in the first place?
	I've known her for two years.
	How long did you learn this?
	I approached her.
	Or you knew her for two years before you pursued her.
	Yeah, I approached her.
	And from the way that I approached her, I could tell the type of girl that she was by the way that she responded to me.
	And then when we finally hung out and everything, and she actually, she said from the moment that I kind of approached her and then left it alone, like planted the seed and wanted to see if I got her interest.
	So I kind of basically just, you know, told her how attractive she was, might have flirted a little bit sexually, and then left.
	Kind of left it like that to fester to see if she would wonder about who I am.
	And she did.
	So then it became, I was her crush.
	She said I became her crush at that point.
	So she would say, hey, I want to see you.
	I miss you.
	She would say, hey, I'm about to do this.
	Or when I would post on my story, I'm about to go here.
	She'd be like, I want to go.
	Let's go together.
	Like, she would put herself out there for me.
	And then when we started dating, she would do things like get me little gifts.
	She would buy me little things like here and there.
	She'd be like, oh, no, I get this for you or whatever.
	Like, we went to Bush Gardens and we was getting some drinks.
	She was like, I get the drinks.
	Things like that.
	What's your sign?
	My sign?
	I don't believe in astrology.
	How many people?
	But I'm a Sag.
	I'm a Sagittarius.
	What's her sign?
	She is a whatever.
	She's a Capricorn, actually, because her birthday is Christmas.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, so she's a Capricorn.
	But what made you wait two years?
	What made me wait two years?
	Yeah.
	I was still kind of dating around.
	Like I said, because for me, like it's hard for a woman to behave in a way that makes me feel like, oh, I can commit to this woman.
	And for me, you have to speak up.
	Closed mouths don't get fed.
	So if we involve with one another and you trying to play it safe or you don't let me know that you're interested in me, like she told me, she was like, I don't want you seeing any other women.
	I want you all to myself.
	She overtedly stated that to me.
	She was two years?
	Yes, because she already knew.
	She called them respectable women.
	She said, I knew you had respectable women.
	That's what she called.
	She didn't want to call them hoes.
	Were you guys just friends?
	Or were you dating?
	We was cool.
	Like, we would spend time together.
	You know, we would do things.
	We were attracted to each other.
	But she didn't press the issue.
	She kind of just sat back and played her position and just focused on her life.
	She was not attached.
	Yeah, she wasn't attached in that regard.
	She would say that she hated that I didn't text her or I didn't invite her out places, but that's on my behalf because when I'm single, I'm single.
	I'm just doing me.
	And then, you know, we hung out a little bit more and it finally got to the point where she finally was like, I want you all to myself.
	Like, I don't want you seeing other women.
	Because you're not scared.
	Was I scared?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Yeah, a little bit, because I'm like, I don't want to give up what I'm doing, but she made it worth it.
	She made it worth it.
	So I should make it worth it.
	We have a super chat here from Pelagic.
	He says, all I hear is blame shifting, lacking accountability, and deflection.
	When I hear them say, grooming, good to see you in the chat, Pelagic.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	I guess we can wrap up on the age gap thing really quick.
	I mean, do you want to respond to that?
	I should not have.
	I understand what you're saying with grooming, and I take it back in that way.
	I was more on board with grooming, meaning controlling that the woman's experience doesn't matter.
	But what I'm hearing you say is grooming is, here's my vision.
	Here's how I want our life to look.
	That I'm on board with.
	Not what you have to say doesn't matter.
	You're too dope.
	I was more in that, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, but it sounds like you still have a bit of a quarrel with the age gap stuff a little bit.
	Because I just think, and this is my own bias when I was that age.
	I was in the longest-term relationship at that age, and we, and granted, he was close to my age, but I was not good at handling conflict.
	I was not good.
	And yes, the man could lead a woman out of that, but I just look back at that time and I had to learn a lot of what it was like to not be in the right relationship for me.
	And I did learn.
	I've learned a lot in my years.
	Okay.
	And that's.
	But that was the same age relationship.
	We were a similar age.
	Yeah.
	It was out of college.
	Yeah.
	But I guess it sounds like the men that you're interested in, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, the men you're interested in now, you find that a lot of them want to date younger women.
	Is that your objective?
	It seems.
	Well, it's.
	You said it wouldn't fly in Wisconsin, but.
	It wouldn't, actually.
	But yeah, here the age gap is pretty prevalent.
	Older men, younger women.
	Perhaps.
	I mean, the thing is, I mean, a lot of people, when I have the age gap discussion, like, I'm not saying this is how it should be when I'm having this conversation.
	I'm saying if this is how it is, I don't really see anything wrong with that.
	I think probably the vast majority of women, young women, probably want to date a guy around their age, you know?
	Like, if you're 19, probably want to date like a 20-year-old.
	That's true.
	Or 19-year-olds.
	Like, that's most women.
	And I'm not saying, like, oh, you have to go and date a 30-year-old man.
	But if she wants to date the 30-year-old man and he wants to date her, and don't see, I don't see anything wrong with it.
	Anything wrong.
	May I share?
	was under the impression and I will own this and I will apologize to you I thought it was a well I thought it was a pursue younger women because they look better They're more fertile.
	That's probably not you, but that's the path that I was thinking.
	Oh, I'm happy to take that position, actually.
	I'll take the position.
	So, I mean, first off, again, I'll reiterate that I think the majority of young women probably want to date guys around their age.
	Like, you know, if you're in college, you probably want to date a college guy.
	If you're 19, you want to date a guy who's like 19, 20, 21, in that age range.
	That's probably the case for the majority of women.
	I think a higher proportion, though, of men who are a bit older in terms of what they find attractive in a partner, now there's obviously the question of can they get that woman?
	That's another conversation.
	But in terms of what I think men find most attractive, yeah, most men probably find women between the ages of 20 to 25 the most attractive for a variety of reasons.
	One of those would be fertility, but I think it just comes down to like probably physical attractiveness.
	But the biggest thing I think is it actually probably comes down to there's a couple things here.
	Oops, sorry.
	Comes down to like probably just like less less baggage.
	That's a big thing.
	Men don't want like the biggest thing I think a lot of men look for, like especially a guy who has choice.
	Like if you have choice, like a guy who doesn't have choice, he's going to put up with a bunch of bullshit for pussy.
	Yep.
	If you need earmuffs when I use that word, but a lot of men, a lot of men, if they don't have choice, will deal with a crazy chick for pussy.
	But a guy who has options, if you introduce drama and conflict and you disrupt his peace, especially if he's a dude on his mission, goodbye.
	Like you are done.
	Can an older woman be that though, too?
	Sure, yeah.
	You can be peace at any age.
	Okay.
	But like he's also going to be looking towards younger women too.
	That's a mindset that the younger woman automatically means less.
	Not necessarily.
	Look, you could find a 30-year-old who's fantastic and deal with a 20-year-old who's a nut job, who's drama.
	I do think there is one component, though, that I've actually never argued, and it's this.
	And I think it actually just makes sense.
	So it comes down to who's a catch.
	And this is just a reality, right?
	Or no, what's the specific terminology on this?
	Oh, keeper.
	She's a keeper.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Or he's a keeper.
	There are going to be more 20-year-old keepers than there are 30-year-old keepers.
	Agreed.
	Because that's an additional 10-year time that she could have been kept.
	Yeah.
	Or he could have been kept, whatever.
	Goes both ways.
	So the reality is, if you're a 30-year-old guy, you got to think the 30-year-old women, why didn't they get kept?
	Not to say that you can't find a 30-year-old woman who's a great woman, but like the proportion of the dating pool, the percentage of the dating pool of women who are like, this is a keeper.
	I want to marry her.
	I want to have kids with her.
	That's probably higher.
	There's more of them that exist at 20.
	Agreed.
	Because, you know, at 20, maybe you've had one boyfriend and you're single.
	It didn't work out with one other dude.
	But as you get older, you've had more opportunities to have been kept.
	So the pool of optimal, optimum partners starts shrinking as you get older.
	And I think this applies to both men and women, but I think there's some differences, but that's just the dating game.
	But as two people in our mid-30s, we also are seeing a lot of people coming out of relationships, getting divorces.
	So that's where I hear, lack of a better phrase, for older women, it's kind of we should just go fuck ourselves.
	I don't know if that's, I mean, you should, if you want to date younger men, you can still date, but you got to lower your standards.
	Is that, I'm willing to hear this.
	I'm genuinely curious about this because it's, I do believe in true love.
	And it's heartbreaking as a woman when I would love what we all want, the fairy tale of a man coming in and kind of being the white, not save me from anything, but here I am ready to lead you.
	Unfortunately, there are men though that also don't lead that path very well.
	And it doesn't have to always be super physically abusive.
	It could just be like we're not in a relationship place for one another.
	That happens more than we're talking about people actually staying together.
	So the baggage problem is if we were living in a perfect world, yeah, we all would be kept in our 20s.
	We're not.
	So I'm trying to speak for what should these women in their around my age do so that men do see them as, hey, that's actually a viable option versus I just want to pursue the young women.
	I mean, you can level up as much as you can as a woman, whether that's working on your personality, becoming more agreeable, staying physically fit, that sort of thing.
	The issue is, though, is women are pretty cutthroat when it comes to how they dated in their 20s.
	I don't think men owe you anything.
	Men don't owe you a relationship.
	You're not owed a relationship.
	If you can get it, great.
	But in the same way that you as women, men aren't owed relationships, we're not owed sex.
	And you're not owed a relationship because you're in your 30s.
	And also that experience thing you was talking about, it goes back to that.
	And what I've observed is that a lot of women, they become even more selective when they get older, as if they still have the mate value that they had when they were younger.
	So when women go through things, when they get to the point where I'm not going to put up with this anymore, and you already have a pool that isn't as large as what you had when you were younger, because you were more fertile, you were physically more attractive, you had more to offer in the mind of a man from his perception.
	When you get older and you still operating under the guise of, oh, I know what I deserve.
	I know my worth.
	I'm not going to settle for this.
	Well, at this point, you do kind of have to settle.
	You have to be more open and receptive to the options that you have available to you because you don't have the same leverage that you had when you was younger.
	And I don't think a lot of women realize that they still operate as if they're 23 years old when they're 37, 38, 40, as if they still have the same leverage in dating and they don't.
	Agreed.
	Well, have you been dating at all?
	Right now, I mean, how many guys, do you have any guys in the friend zone?
	I put in the friend zone that's I don't personally want guys as friends It does happen because I do a lot of what are considered masculine activities.
	I surf, I spearfish.
	Yeah, I feel bad about this, but I'm very clear with them.
	This is not going to go.
	I don't see.
	How many men have you been in that situation in the past year?
	Since moving down to Southern California.
	Well, you said you've been single for one year?
	Is that?
	Yeah, I've lived down here about two years now.
	I moved down from Half Moon Bay.
	So since moving here, putting guys in the friend zone, I'd say about there's four.
	There's four.
	That you rejected.
	They didn't pursue.
	If one of them could step up and lead in the way you are, it might have been different.
	It was more, I don't, it's not simp.
	It's just more they're on dating apps.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	That's how we do it.
	Next.
	Which one?
	Was it Hinge?
	Wait, what?
	I hate when women do this.
	It's so fucking annoying.
	You got to fucking do it.
	I took it as a marketing thing.
	I sent you a message for you to come be on the show.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying we matched, but yes.
	I was using dating apps to get women to come be on the show.
	I did not know that was a marketing tool.
	I'll give it to you.
	It was a marketing tool.
	And you were very honest.
	I came up.
	Yeah, you think that.
	I mean, it is a dating show.
	So that's a marketing tool.
	She really just dropped that.
	No, just the way women say shit, like, they make it sound really bad and stuff like that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, that's how I got on the shows because you sent me a message saying, hey, do you want to come on the show?
	Yeah, it does sound a bit bad, honestly.
	Women do that shit all the time.
	I have some friends who are DJs.
	But you were on the show, what, like, two years ago?
	About, yeah, that was right when I moved out.
	I got banned on the dating.
	I have some guy friends that are DJs, and they use dating apps to get girls together.
	To come out and use it as a promoter, but they don't want to date any of them.
	One of them fully has a girlfriend that he's in a happy relationship with, and she knows about it, and he just uses it to get paid.
	PR moves out.
	But so just to wrap up, I guess, with the thing.
	So, okay, you were on dating apps.
	How many matches in total did you get on the dating apps?
	About 10.
	How many dates did you go on?
	Oh, I've gotten on so many first.
	Like in the past two years?
	Yeah.
	How many?
	10.
	Yeah, I'm going to put the number at 10.
	10?
	And these.
	I mean, that's a decent.
	I mean, it's not like you could have said 50.
	Is it bad for me a turnoff is if a man fully crosses his legs like a woman would?
	Is that just a stupid ick?
	I mean, I don't call ick stupid because it's an ick.
	I mean, it's your physiological response, but I'm not hurt.
	That's what I'm curious about.
	You don't do that in the Midwest.
	Look, it is an equipped when you're turned off by something a man does.
	So, in terms of your body language, yes, I think as a guy, it's going to be viewed negatively by women if you cross your legs.
	I think, like, oh, I can't date this dude because he did this.
	I mean, look, you're icked out, you're icked out.
	You're complaining about men not wanting to like date you or whatever, but you, like, rejected a dude because he crossed his leg.
	I mean, do you have anybody to blame but yourself?
	I'm just afraid there.
	Okay, here's another dating story.
	This was really recent.
	Yeah.
	He, we got to a point, it was the second date he admitted he liked stuff up the butt.
	Wait.
	Like, he wanted to receive.
	And he was of like, he was on the dating.
	You might have to accept that shit, to be honest.
	You might have to accept that shit.
	What dating app was this?
	Oh, it's 36.
	You got to accept some things, right?
	And he had a.
	He needs to go on Grinder.
	I was going to say, is he on the right dating app?
	This is the straight man here.
	And I'm not like, that's what I'm trying to avoid.
	I don't know.
	So, like, by Curious.
	I don't know if he was by Curious, but I don't know.
	It's the lip.
	Wait, but you're liberal men.
	Don't put your settings to conservative.
	You gotta pay for it.
	I don't know.
	Oh, dude.
	Oh, she's not willing to pay the $20 a month.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, you're in Santa Barbara.
	It's super fucking liberal.
	You're in California.
	Super liberal.
	I know.
	If you want to stop dealing with dudes who want butt stuff, you got to switch things up a little bit.
	You got to do farmers only.
	I will call it date's not a problem for me.
	I've dated a short king.
	They're great.
	It's the liberal versus conservative thing.
	Well, why do you look on dating apps?
	I think dating apps are shit.
	Because honestly, I think it funnels all the lowest quality mates into one place.
	That's probably why it's been a bunch of first-person.
	So, with all the traveling and stuff that you do, why not try to meet somebody organized?
	No, I don't.
	I haven't traveled in forever.
	I've read a place.
	Yeah, no, this was early 20s.
	I will own this.
	I was in a great relationship.
	We probably could have made it work if he would have stepped up and led a bit better.
	I had the travel bug.
	It was me.
	I went and sailed on a tall ship.
	Oh, boy.
	And I, yeah, I explored the world.
	You know what's interesting, though, on the like exploring and experience and travel thing?
	Not sexually.
	No, but you brought that up as kind of like one of the objections.
	Like, oh, a young woman, like, she hasn't done much traveling yet.
	Look, you're not going to like what I'm about to say.
	Don't shoot the messenger.
	As a guy, if you're a girl and you're telling us, I've been here, I've been here, I've been here, I've been here.
	You want to know how we take that?
	You're not going to like it, but you got to understand the male perspective.
	If a girl says, I've been to Dubai, I've been to Vienna, I've been to Zurich, I've been fucking everywhere, wherever.
	Oh, you've been to, you've been to fucking Thailand?
	You've been, you've done all the Asian countries, you've done all the European countries, you've been to Latin America, you've been to the Middle East.
	Oh, she fucked a guy there.
	She fought, oh, Paris, under the Eiffel Tower, fucked a dude, fucked a French guy.
	Oh, Spain, Spain, you know, a little Spanish conquer.
	Portugal, oh, definitely got some Portuguese.
	zoo that's what we if you tell us oh i've done this i've had this experience that's That's how we filter that.
	Oh, you fucked dudes in all these places.
	She's a flight attendant.
	Dubai.
	Yeah, what if she has a navy traveling job?
	Maybe did one.
	Oh, maybe she's traveling.
	Maybe.
	Oh, even worse if she's a flight attendant.
	Hold on.
	No, but she's a flight attendant.
	She's definitely fucked.
	What if she's like going to different countries?
	You want to know the amount of people?
	Even so what?
	Hold on.
	Like, what's wrong with that?
	Oh, we'll get into that.
	But if she's a flight, here's the thing.
	Only men say I'm confident.
	What if she's a pilot?
	I was on.
	Look, I was on Tinder.
	Hold on.
	I was, well, I mean, we saw what happened recently in Toronto with the plane upside down.
	That was an all-female crew.
	But anyways, yeah, it was all female crew.
	Fucking, what is it?
	Delta United or some bullshit with their fucking motherfuckers.
	We're men.
	Pilots who are male.
	Oh, yeah, there's been plane crashes with men sometimes.
	But okay, hold on.
	If she's a flight attendant, I've matched with girls who are flight attendants before.
	Luckily, I didn't fuck any of them.
	But because who knows what I would have caught.
	I match with them though, and you have to think right.
	So I've talked to them though.
	And I'm like, oh, how long are you in town for?
	Two days, one day, the night.
	Oh, okay.
	And then it's like, oh, you want to link up?
	Yeah, yeah, I can grab a drink tonight.
	And then she's off to another city, and she goes to 200 cities in a year.
	And she's on the dating app.
	And that same conversation I had with her here in Santa Barbara, she's doing that in Seattle.
	She's doing that at Chicago, O'Hare.
	She's doing that at Miami.
	She's doing it at JFK.
	She's doing it at Newark.
	She's doing it at every fucking city.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Every fucking city.
	She's on the dating app.
	So trust me.
	These flight attendants, fuck, bro.
	Trust me, bro.
	Baby, fucking.
	She's on the dating app.
	The same conversation she has with me.
	Oh, oh, well, you want to get a drink?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	She's doing that in every fucking city.
	She's getting a lot of dates.
	Did you have a bad experience with a fucking?
	No, I didn't.
	I didn't even meet up.
	I didn't even meet up.
	But I'm telling you, these flight attendants or women who travel a lot for work, you're in a different city every week.
	You're fucking a guy in every different city.
	There's a lot of other jobs that aren't flight attendants.
	I know, but traveling.
	Right, but that's what I'm saying.
	And paying for herself.
	I was saying if she just travels a lot, she's fucked.
	That's the male perspective.
	Like, what if she travels a lot with her family?
	To Dubai.
	I think it depends on the places, though.
	Sure, I agree.
	If she's like with her family, she probably still fucking went to her.
	Her dad was in the military.
	Maybe her dad was in the middle of the day.
	Well, maybe her dad was on the military.
	And she was like going to the middle.
	But you said maybe she's a flight attendant and that's why she's traveling so much.
	I'm like, yeah, massive red flag.
	She's a flight attendant.
	She can't keep a dude because she's never fucking home.
	She's fucking every dude in a different city.
	Maybe the flight attendant was a bad example.
	But he's your girl travel.
	He has a point.
	She agrees.
	He has a point because that's still insecurities.
	Like, you see.
	You're from Europe, though.
	You guys get to see all these amazing countries.
	Yeah, I traveled a lot, but still, it's true.
	I wasn't in apps.
	I used it because I was alone many times and I wanted to visit the city.
	But still, I was alone because not all my friends could actually afford maybe to go to that place.
	And I've been lucky because my family is well off.
	So I was able to go to London, even if it's one hour and a half from Milan.
	Okay.
	Are you getting paid sometimes?
	Like, was your previous owner?
	Owner?
	Boss.
	I'm in a boss.
	Are you safe?
	Because she was like a personal assistant for celebrities.
	So she was being able to travel all over the place.
	I see.
	There are situations like that.
	Like, women can do their thing.
	No, but even then, okay, oh, you're traveling.
	You're like an au pair.
	Oh, you're an au pair and this really rich family is taking you to all these places.
	Oh, hey, we're going to have a night in with the kids.
	You go out and enjoy the nightlife.
	Boom, you just got fucked in Milan or something.
	Yeah, but the thing is, he's right, because the society of nowadays, it's so common for sugar babies and these things that it's even for male.
	It's not like only women do this.
	Let's be honest.
	It's a 50-50.
	Human beings do it, period.
	And it gives you the doubt.
	It gives you insecurities because you don't know if actually this person is that interested in you.
	Is he giving you really just their attention to you?
	Or is, as he said, this guy or that girl here.
	It's like, is it lust or is it love?
	That's when you don't do hookup culture, which is also very prevalent here.
	And yeah.
	For hookup culture, you mean like having a lot.
	I actually, one man just told me that's the way dating goes here in California: is that you have to go.
	They hook up and then they figure if they want to have date each other after.
	It's almost kind of like Korean.
	Like they say immediately, oh, you're my girlfriend.
	Then they go to bed with you.
	And maybe like two days after, poof, these colours.
	They disappear.
	But they have to be your boyfriend.
	Look, can, you got to understand when I'm talking about this, I'm speaking in generalities.
	Can a woman be well-traveled and not have fucked a dude in every city?
	Sure, of course.
	There's always exception to the rule.
	But the male rule, I see what you're saying.
	Perception.
	Perception is so important.
	Perception oftentimes is, well, I don't know if it's, well, it's can be reality.
	I don't know if that makes sense.
	That's how a guy's going to look at it.
	Oh, you have all these experiences.
	Like a guy, like if you've just done everything, first time going to a fancy restaurant, first time driving in like a sports car, a luxury car, a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, a McLaren.
	And oh, I've already been, I've been in three McLarens before.
	Yeah, guys.
	Okay, you fuck somebody.
	You fucked a guy.
	But oh my God.
	Oh my God, it's so cool.
	Oh, it's so fast.
	I've never been in a Lamborghini before.
	That's more appealing.
	That's more appealing to the guy because as a guy, you want to offer a girl a new experience.
	If you've just, oh, okay.
	Yeah, I've driven one of these.
	Big deal.
	You've got the low-tier Lamborghini.
	It's hard to impress the girl.
	Oh, you've got the, what's it called?
	The Aventador.
	I want the Mercia Lago or whatever it is.
	The Galardo.
	Oh, you're driving the poverty, Lamborghini, mister.
	I only deal with guys in the.
	But if you start immediately conversation by showing off what's your experience, that's insecurity, and you're trying to sell yourself as somebody, like, oh, look at me.
	I feel like it would fail immediately.
	I don't think women say this to brag.
	I just think it's kind of like just about women.
	Literally, like, male and female, when they show off the experiences in that way, it makes me just see this person as insecure, trying to prove himself or herself to me.
	Sure.
	I mean, why to me?
	Who am I?
	Yeah, who are you?
	Right.
	Why don't you just settle down on your own, try to fix whatever trauma you have?
	Fix the trauma.
	I mean, securities come from that.
	Why do you have to do that?
	Look, I don't know.
	As a woman, I don't think you should lie, but that's just the perception that we're going to get as a guy.
	Anyways, I'm going to read a couple chats here.
	Can we get an astrology check on the panel?
	Who believes and who doesn't?
	Love to the pod, whatever, whenever.
	Dude, thank you for the T, or not the TTS, the Streamlabs message, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Show of hands.
	Who's into astrology?
	Show of hands.
	What do you mean by showing me a sense of music?
	Like, total bullshit.
	What's your sign?
	Wait, you believe in astrology.
	You, don't.
	You don't.
	It's entertaining.
	You do.
	Do you astrology?
	Are you into astrology?
	It's not my thing.
	Not her thing.
	She's not about it.
	Okay, all right.
	It's fun though.
	Sometimes I'm like, I convince myself.
	Like, I'll read something.
	I'm a Libra.
	Yeah.
	And I'll be like, oh my god, that is me, but I think I'm just trying to do a test with Aaliyah.
	Aaliyah, what do you think I am?
	Because you're a psychic or whatever.
	Can you scoot the mic to the leave the mic at the edge of the table?
	More and more and more?
	More and more, more?
	Scoot it, scoot it, it's good.
	Yep, go ahead.
	What do you think I am?
	I want to say you're an earth sign.
	Which is, I don't know what that is.
	Virgo, Taurus, or Capricorn.
	Fix.
	Thank you.
	She fucking got me.
	All right.
	God damn it.
	Well, I mean, the interesting thing about it is.
	Yeah.
	And women love trying to guess my sign before I say it, and they get it wrong all the time.
	That's how I know it's bullshit.
	But also, the interesting thing about astrology is it's called the Barnum effect.
	So essentially, it's so generally vague that when you ask people what their traits are, they are in agreement.
	They're like, you show, I show all y'all the same traits and say, you are this, you are that, you are this, and all of this positive affirmational bullshit.
	And y'all all agree, that is me.
	That's me.
	Can I ask you?
	And it's all the same shit.
	So the common misconception with astrology, just because I heavily studied it a lot, is you actually have three signs, and not a lot of people like that.
	But the three main signs, you have your sun, your moon, and your rising.
	And like those get like, it's just like I could go deep into it, would be here forever.
	But I think a lot of people don't understand it and there's a lot of misconceptions.
	There's just a lot of misconceptions about it, is what my general thing is.
	It's people don't understand it.
	But if you like actually study it, it does make sense in a way.
	It does not.
	It does.
	You have to study more reliable.
	What is astrology?
	What is astrology?
	The celestial bodies affecting human behavior.
	Can somebody explain the metaphysics of that?
	Okay.
	How something light years away influences my behavior?
	Also, like a few months ago, I don't know if you guys saw this, but like everyone's signs like changed.
	Like it just somehow changed, like they got shifted around, like the dates moved.
	Like how is that even like it's only like with like who's born when now?
	It's not like, oh, now you're a Sagittarius.
	Yeah, no, it doesn't change.
	When you were born in that specific hour and the city you were born, that's how you actually calculate.
	Sounds like a lot of fun.
	So it's how the planets are influenced.
	How the planets and the stars are influencing you from when you were.
	Guys, I gotta read three Diglets before he gets mad at me.
	Get Myron in this BH.
	Yo, thank you for the $100 super chat.
	Unfortunately, we just have to get through with the show, but I do appreciate your super chat.
	Three Diglets.
	Thank you very much, man.
	Okay, let's get into some of the show notes because we're behind.
	Actually, you know what?
	Fuck it.
	By the way, Stiffler wasn't.
	I don't know where he was, so he told me to call it in.
	So ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to 10.
	You can't pick seven, starting with you.
	Seven's a lucky one.
	I would say I'm a ten, but it depends on what you're basing like societal acceptance or whatever.
	We are using the Ethiopian and Eritrean beauty standard.
	In astrology?
	We're using the Ethiopian beauty standard here, not the Western, not Asian, not Korean.
	So what do you rate yourself in Eritrea?
	Like, are you a 10 in Eritrea or?
	I'm a 12.
	She's a 12.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Daisy, what do you rate yourself on the scale of 1 to 10?
	Can't pick 7?
	Most of the time, I feel like I'm a 10, but sometimes I feel like I'm zero.
	Yeah, like sometimes I just don't like myself that much.
	Yeah.
	Daisy, Daisy, Daisy.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Six.
	Six, okay.
	What about you?
	Depends on the day, but I'd say like right now, probably six.
	Are you ever a 10?
	Yeah, if I. If you do what?
	I don't know.
	Get like all dressed up and you know, go out, do my makeup, do my hair.
	If like if.
	Oh.
	I thought you were about to say like the guy's drunk or something.
	I know, I'm basing it off of what I think.
	Blind.
	It's her opinion.
	It's her opinion.
	Oh, okay, okay, my bad.
	Not so 10, or what should I write?
	Six.
	I said six.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	What about you?
	Here, California, where plastic surgery is the thing.
	I don't know.
	Four.
	Okay.
	I'm aware.
	I'm aware.
	All right, how about the total United States?
	Total United States for my age, because I do take care of myself.
	Okay.
	I'm going to give it eight because we can't pick seven.
	I want to pick seven, but we can't pick seven.
	Okay, eight for your age.
	Okay.
	What about on this panel?
	What about eight?
	Or sorry, what about your rating in total, though?
	Because you specified just California.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's really hard when women alter their faces to feel like a.
	Yeah, I will.
	But you do realize they're like supermodels who don't have any plastic surgery.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But those are very, they usually compete in Miss.
	I don't know if Miss USA or Miss Miss whatever the whole thing is.
	Universe.
	Universal.
	Can they alter their faces?
	Probably.
	Oh.
	Yeah, surgery is not against those things.
	They can.
	They can.
	I was in the competition before.
	Okay.
	She was a professional bodybuilder.
	No, like honorable.
	She's Miss Blue.
	She did a shooting pageant.
	She does it all.
	Miss Asia.
	Yeah, she won it.
	You won Miss Asia?
	On Lebanon.
	The one?
	Lebanon.
	Wow.
	Miss Lebanon.
	Lebanon.
	What the fuck are you doing in Lebanon?
	Miss Asia in Lebanon.
	She represented Lebanon.
	I represented China.
	Oh, sorry.
	In Lebanon.
	Yeah, they do a lot of those competitions.
	It's very famous for that Lebanon.
	You have to check on the competition in Asia?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	It was Miss China?
	It was like all Asia competing.
	How about Miss China?
	It was around 50 computers from different countries.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Probably like a five.
	Five, okay.
	And is that in total?
	Wait, break it down, like face body if you had to.
	Like again.
	Like, do you have a different rating for your face?
	Wait, if we're doing that, then I have.
	You're up.
	You're higher.
	Your body nine, face six.
	Faceware.
	Face six.
	Wait, but you can't.
	Hold on.
	But you just said overall.
	So I just said six.
	Wouldn't it?
	I can't say seven.
	Wouldn't okay, whatever.
	Do you want to?
	I would say I look better with my straight hair.
	I'd probably be like a six, maybe.
	You know what I just noticed about you?
	This is the most weird compliment.
	I don't know if it's compliment.
	You ever seen those really old?
	What's it called when they draw a portrait?
	You got this look.
	Look into that camera right there.
	You've got this like.
	Yeah.
	Portrait.
	Like Mona Lisa type.
	Not like Mona Lisa, but you got this like silence mind like portrait artist model.
	Like 1400s look to you.
	Like you would be like Ethiopian royalty if there were painters back in that.
	They didn't compliment.
	You know what I mean?
	But I don't know if it's a compliment because there's a lot of inbreeding in the royal feminine.
	Let's keep that in the middle.
	So you're a princess.
	But there's inbreeding.
	It's not.
	So I'll let you figure out if it's a compliment or not.
	Okay.
	I think it's at a bigger thing.
	I think it's a good question.
	Yeah, I just feel like the woman over there are like more attractive than at least me right now.
	Oh.
	Like, what's her name?
	Ruby Rose?
	Who's she?
	Oh, my God.
	She's like, bro, she's like perfect.
	She's gorgeous.
	Would you rank yourself on a scale of one?
	I mean, society and the beauty has changed in all the centuries, and I'm okay with myself.
	I had some self-doubt about my image before, but since I've met my boyfriend, he made me accept myself, so I don't really, and I will not really give you an answer in this because it's still gonna trigger me to have to give myself a tag on how I'm beautiful or not.
	But I'm okay with myself.
	Let's say it is.
	Let's not say that.
	Let's say you're gonna be able to see it.
	Let's say you're not.
	Just say you're a 10.
	10.
	Thank you.
	Is that actually your rating?
	Just to yourself.
	You're a 10.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, no, no, no.
	Go ahead.
	What's your rating?
	Probably a seven and a half.
	Okay, I'll accept it.
	What about you?
	I would say a nine with the potential to be a ten.
	What would have to change, I guess?
	Maybe a ten.
	Drop a few pounds.
	My hair might grow a little longer.
	Q, what about you?
	5.8.
	5.8?
	Yeah.
	You downgraded.
	I give myself a five.
	May I ask a question on this?
	Sure.
	Men's opinions of the women who say they're a 10.
	That shows confidence.
	The woman who are saying that they're not a 10 and much less shows insecurity.
	It's the reverse.
	Really?
	That's absolutely the reverse.
	Interesting.
	So if you're like, if you have a big ego, you got pride, and you're rating yourself a 10 and you're not a 10.
	We look at that.
	That's hubris.
	That's ego.
	That's pride.
	That's lack of modesty.
	So, whereas a woman who's just, oh yeah, look, I'm a six, I'm a seven.
	That's confidence, I think.
	Because we don't want to deal with no delusional woman.
	Yeah.
	Said no man ever.
	Oh my God.
	She's so brave.
	She said she's a 10.
	She's confident.
	I love that about her.
	None of us have ever said that bullshit.
	This is interesting.
	No, I do think, genuinely speaking, this idea that, well, it's confident to say that you're a 10.
	I actually think it's confident to be like, I can do an accurate self-assessment of how I look.
	This is where I think I stand.
	Like, why?
	I don't know.
	Like, if you're genuinely an average woman and you think you are among the most beautiful women in the world, that's a lack of modesty.
	It's pride.
	And I just think it's way more confidence to just be like, I'm six.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know, man.
	So, okay, we got, we got, you know what, though?
	We got a 10, a 10, an eight, a nine.
	We got a, I'm very good.
	I get the most beautiful women on my show.
	Look at this panel of.
	I wanted seven, man.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know how I keep doing it, Q. Every show, I just get the most.
	I get the most beautiful women.
	You need to start a whatever beauty page.
	I'm starting a whatever women.
	I can help you with that.
	She's going to help me.
	I was in the organization.
	She'll be one of the judges.
	I was.
	She was.
	She was our judging.
	Okay.
	Here, we're going to do going around the table.
	Actually, are we starting to get the stuff in Discord, Damien?
	Okay, we'll get that pulled up in a sec.
	I'm going to read a couple chats first, though.
	So we have, uh-oh.
	Here, let me play this one.
	Uh-oh.
	Michael Jones donated $200, starting with chair one.
	Seven, seven, five, four, three, four, six, five.
	Q and Brian are both tens.
	Oh, okay.
	Mike Jones.
	Mike Jones, what would the panelists think the average of 1,000 men would rate them?
	What would the panelists think?
	Okay, sure, we'll do that really quick, going around the table.
	Good question, Mike.
	So this is now changed to what do you think a thousand men rate you?
	What's the average?
	I've only ever been told 10.
	Good attitude.
	I like that.
	I'm serious.
	Really?
	You didn't have some boyfriend who's like, shut up.
	No.
	You didn't have a boyfriend?
	You all have subscribers?
	Oh, they are definitely something.
	You don't have like haters?
	They're something.
	On your socials?
	They were telling you you're 10.
	I mean, you just had somebody tell you you were seven.
	Well, yeah.
	So what do you think the average would be if a thousand men rated you?
	Eight.
	Okay.
	Daisy?
	Depend.
	Like, I get to hear and compliment all the time, not just the way how I look, also how I move and the way I dress.
	So, it really depends on preference because I do have some of the work done.
	So, for some of the people, they don't prefer plastic surgery.
	They will say, oh, maybe you're.
	Yeah, but it's like a thousand men.
	So, you just, let's say, 50% of them like plastic surgery, 50% of them.
	Okay, then that will be eight.
	Eight, okay.
	Seven.
	Wait, you get the men rate you higher?
	Because you said six.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Six.
	Okay, the same.
	I'm going to be honest.
	Yeah, I know I'm average.
	I'm a five.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I've been rated higher, so probably like seven.
	Okay.
	I would be scared to be judged by a thousand men.
	Probably.
	I mean, you have about five?
	You have about seven thousand judging you right now.
	I was happier when I didn't know it.
	But I would say five or six, maybe.
	I don't know.
	I cannot really talk for them.
	Sure.
	Next.
	I would say anywhere from eight and nine.
	Just because my hair is naturally ginger and blonde, so I feel like in that category, there's not a lot of people to judge from.
	I think there's about 2% of the world has naturally red hair.
	So I'm putting myself at a higher rank for that.
	Because of the red hair?
	That makes you rare, though.
	Yeah, unique.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like my arms blonde.
	What about your eyebrows?
	My eyebrows, I do color them in, but they're like a so okay, eight or nine?
	Because you're ginger, she's saying.
	I mean, is it the case that men appraise redheads as like generally more attractive than dark-haired women or blonde women?
	I don't think that that's the case.
	Yeah, there's a lot of gingerphobia out there.
	Huh?
	Really?
	What do you mean?
	Gingerphobia.
	So like nine if you like ginger is so dangerous.
	It's so racist.
	It is.
	It's very.
	And like it's not there.
	If you say you call somebody a ginger in a derogatory way, it's not like socially unacceptable to do.
	It is kind of souls.
	I was about to say they don't have souls, but that's true.
	All right, we have a chat here from Chair One Simp.
	Here, Chair, can you read this, Aaliyah, into the mic?
	Read this for us.
	I'm a Cancer Sun, Taurus Moon, Leo Rising.
	Are we compatible?
	I need a good reason to get my pool hot tub and sauna going again.
	Cancer son, yes, because I'm a Pisces.
	Sun, Taurus, Moon.
	What the fuck?
	Taurus Moon might be a little too stubborn for me.
	And then what was the Rising?
	Leo Rising.
	Leo.
	Leo Rising.
	My Rising's also fire, so I think that would be compatible.
	Slay.
	Oh, my God.
	You guys are such a match.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Chair One Simp, I'm going to set you guys up.
	Okay.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Here.
	Oh, we have to do.
	Okay, going around the table, do you think you'll be...
	Wait, hold on.
	Fuck that shit.
	I have things to say.
	Do you guys object to this question?
	No.
	Does anybody object to it?
	Do you guys think it's, you know, it's a little.
	Ask first.
	What do you mean?
	What's the question?
	What's the question?
	No, the rating question.
	What do you rate your looks on a scale of one?
	Do you think it's kind of, you know, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Look, I'm a.
	Look.
	Oh, by the way, whoever's doing the gender swap to we have to do gender swap for this.
	We have it?
	Yeah.
	Sweet.
	Here it looks.
	The reason we ask it is because I think it is important to know your standing in the dating marketplace so that that way you can go in with reasonable expectations and end up with a guy who's, I mean, maybe you don't think, like, maybe you want to shoot for the stars and get a top-tier dude.
	You can try.
	Good luck.
	You're going to run into those problems we talked about earlier where they're not going to give you that same amount of attention, same amount of time.
	They're probably going to fuck around on you unless you catch a rare one.
	But I do genuinely think that if we were to line up every woman on earth and put her next to her male equivalent when it comes to looks, 90% of y'all would be mortified.
	You'd be like, really?
	That's the dude.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's like, and why it's important is because I think a lot of women, y'all conflate sexual interest with dating interest.
	Long-term commitment.
	Yeah.
	So you'll get a bunch of likes and DMs, and maybe you'll deal with an athlete, NFL player, NBA player.
	You'll deal with like a like mid-tier SoundCloud rapper or some bullshit.
	Maybe you'll even deal with like a major musician or actor or whatever it is, or a guy who's rich or a guy who's got status or a guy who's really good looking, whatever it is.
	You're getting sexual attention from him.
	But that's not the W for you.
	Like as women, it's easy for you to get sexual attention from almost most or all men.
	The W is when you get commitment from that guy, when you get a ring, when you get his last name, when you get his children.
	So you can't be confusing because like men, men will sleep with a girl and disqualify her just based on her looks.
	Like she's attractive enough to sleep with, but not attractive enough to be in a relationship with.
	And maybe that's confusing for some of y'all because I think with women, it's the reverse.
	Like for you to have a short-term thing with a guy, he's got to be really attractive typically.
	Like you make the concession the other way.
	Like to have like a short-term, like if you want to just have a quick one-night stand or a hookup, he's got to be really fucking hot.
	Yeah.
	But for a real, it's kind of different.
	But with men, it's like for a short-term thing, we actually look down.
	Men look down.
	Like, we'll deal with a girl who we would never be caught in a relationship with on the sole basis of her looks because we just want the easy access to sex.
	But because the majority of men are just straight up offering you sex, you're going to get offers from men who are no offense, like I'm not, that are above your league.
	And the other thing is, as guys, we get rejected on the front end.
	So you guys will get rejected on the back end.
	So what does this look like?
	If I step to a girl who's just out of my league, and this is going to typically, like, if I'm stepping to her.
	Could I get her?
	No, if I'm stepping to Megan Fox, even like Megan Fox right now, she's a little crazy for Ana.
	Like, she's got a lot going on.
	I'm getting rejected, though.
	Like, I don't have a chance with Megan Fox, and I know that going in.
	But she's going to reject me immediately up front.
	And it doesn't even have to be a girl with status.
	It could be like just a normal girl who's just good looking, attractive.
	I can't get anything outside my league, right?
	If I step to a girl, instant rejection.
	I don't get a conversation.
	I don't get a date.
	I don't get a meal.
	I certainly don't get sex, right?
	But as women, if you're dealing with a dude who's outside of your league, you can fuck him.
	Maybe he's going to keep you around for one, two, three dates, one, two, three hookups.
	Maybe you even get a situationship.
	He'll keep you around for six months.
	He'll burn six months of your time while you're trying to get him into a relationship.
	I went through that in my 20s.
	You're literally explaining like.
	So why is it?
	He actually had a very, this is my issue with the young.
	He had a 13-year younger girl as his girlfriend.
	And I was the other woman without knowing it.
	And I was the girl he was fucking around with.
	Ouch.
	Yeah.
	So this, I agree with that.
	No, this happens all the time.
	And look, as I don't fully like, I don't blame women insofar.
	I kind of do, but hold up.
	I don't blame you because we all want to get what's the best we can get.
	We want the most attractive, the best personality, all the other sort of beneficial things that we can get in a relationship, all the characteristics we like, the looks.
	Like, we all want to get the best.
	We're all greedy.
	We want to get the best that we can.
	We want the optimum partner.
	You're not going to, if you're faced with multiple different options and women, you guys have a fuck ton of options.
	You're going to want the best one.
	It just, it makes sense.
	But then the guys you pick, if they're all at the top, they also have a fuck ton of options.
	And they're not like, they're going to want to be dealing probably with multiple women.
	They probably don't pursue either because women are throwing themselves.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they might still pursue, but they're still going to probably be dealing.
	Well, as somebody who was like that, typically the girl that I approach is who I want because I approached her.
	But I'll take, if it's convenient, if women are throwing themselves at me, if it's convenient, I'll take them up on it.
	Like I've declined a lot of women as well, but the women who are just good enough or who are attractive enough, and it's not like a, I'll sleep with them and then kick them to the curb.
	It was never like that.
	It's like, oh, you know, we can chill, we can go out or whatever the case may be.
	But it's just not where you're up to my standard in terms of what I want on my arm.
	And then a lot of times personality plays a huge role in that too, because a lot of these women have personality issues and like cluster B mental illnesses and how it was.
	Yeah, but that's normally what it is.
	That's normally how it goes.
	But I mean, it's a difficult situation.
	And then a lot of the guys are going to feign.
	They're going to feign that they want something more serious to like, because they're just going to be like, oh, okay, I'll keep her around for six months and just so I can keep having sex with her, right?
	And I don't think that's the right way to move as men, but as women, you got to kind of look at the dynamics that are going on and be like, it's hard.
	Like, you're going to want that guy.
	You're going to want that top, top guy who's either really attractive or, you know, whatever.
	He's got status or whatever it is.
	And you're going to want to try to catch him.
	But he's got a lot of other women chasing him.
	It's like, why settle when he can get other women?
	And you're not going to get commitment.
	And then the trouble is, like, as dudes, it's typically not the case as a guy when you're like in your 20s or whatever throughout the course of your 20s.
	It doesn't look like this for men.
	And could you ever, here's the reverse.
	Here's the reversal.
	Imagine a guy who's 20, 21, who all the women want to sleep with him.
	And he's a six.
	Let's say he's mid.
	Let's say he's a five.
	But all the girls want to sleep with him, who are his looks equivalent.
	But in addition to that, there's women who are six, seven, eight, and nine who want to sleep with him too.
	But those women, the six, seven, eight, and nine women, they don't want commitment from him.
	They just want to fuck him a couple times.
	Maybe he'll get a situation ship with a few for one, two, three months.
	And then let's say you're a girl and you're like, oh, that's a guy.
	We're kind of on the same level.
	I want to get him in a relationship.
	Why would he ever be in a relationship with you when he can get sexual attention, other kinds of attention from women who are more attractive than you?
	That's what's going on with women.
	Food for thought.
	Got real silent there.
	Oh, I got it.
	I don't know.
	Am I wrong?
	I could be wrong.
	I don't know.
	Maybe correct me.
	Maybe y'all fuck.
	I mean, about us looking for somebody that for us at least is like very good looking, like fit for our beauty standard.
	That's true.
	For when I stand, that's at least I talk about my own experience that what I did.
	But when I had to have a relationship, I always had to know how the personality is.
	Because if I have to be with somebody, talk to you every day, and I mean, I have to have a connection emotionally, feelings for you.
	And we have to be fit to each other.
	I mean, I cannot be with somebody that thinks about certain topics and puts certain priorities that to me they're not really like there shouldn't be even priorities.
	So why would women care if the man wants to take us seriously?
	Why can't we just?
	I'm the one, I'm going to choose who I want to be serious with.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, that's why also a lot of women stop prioritize prioritizing or relationship.
	They're more like focusing on their career, their well-being.
	So you're saying women just want to fuck a bunch of dudes in their 20s?
	That's not what I'm saying.
	What I'm saying is women should not take a relationship or a man as their first priority in their life.
	They should not be concerned about that.
	Why not?
	Because you're not a religious job.
	Men can tell a woman to fuck off.
	Sorry.
	Right, whenever they want.
	So women are always be the one that's more passive.
	So we should be there for ourselves and to become the best version of ourselves.
	So one day we can tell the man, you fuck off.
	If we don't like you, fuck off.
	But he said that at the beginning of the show.
	Most of the time, women are the ones telling the men to fuck off.
	What if I told you that actually what you're saying, because what we're talking about, we're talking about a very, very small percentage of men who can do this.
	The majority of men, as I told you earlier, don't have the leverage in their relationships.
	They can't just break up and go out and get other women.
	And fun fact, most men fall in love before the women do.
	Most men are the ones asking for commitment.
	Really?
	I find that very hard to believe.
	I don't think so.
	No, no, I'm telling you, I'm telling you a psychological fact.
	I'm telling you a psychological fact.
	Like, you can Google it.
	Who falls in love first most of the time?
	It's going to say men.
	My older brother, like you're talking, my older brother is having this problem.
	Like, girls, he's good looking, but girls are looking for him to just have the one that stands.
	And maybe he would like to continue to see this girl.
	Ghosty.
	Where are those kind of men?
	Well, we got to think about it.
	Do y'all think most men get women?
	No.
	Okay, then.
	Okay, so most men don't get women, right?
	So the men who get women, the men who can afford to get women, most men, when they get in a relationship, they value that relationship.
	They try to hold on to that relationship because it's so difficult for them if they lose that source of validation, they lose that source of sex for them to just go find it elsewhere.
	So they stick to it.
	And this is actually, the research bears this out empirically.
	It was just a major study that was released that show men actually value the relationship more than women in a lot of regards.
	That's based on because they are lack of choices.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	We don't have the leverage in the relationship.
	And I see where it can be valid, but from personal experience, I don't see that at all.
	Maybe I'm just like...
	Well, you're biased.
	Personal experience.
	That's all I can buy.
	It's hard to say, but I just find it hard to believe because I haven't, no.
	I haven't experienced men pursuing me more than I'm trying to.
	We have to inspire that out of a man.
	We can't just be entitled to it.
	They were saying that before, too.
	From what I'm learning and understanding, because I didn't understand this all in my 20s.
	We have to inspire a man to want to provide, cherish, be devotional.
	You can't just expect it.
	Oh, I'm not saying that.
	Most men want a woman by his side.
	I'm not saying that we want to women.
	I have put my all and my effort into so many people.
	That's all.
	And they're just like, nope.
	That's also a problem.
	Because you're catering to what he wants first, truly being who you are, authentic, then also on authenticity.
	Otherwise, he can tell you're faking it.
	I'm not faking it, though.
	Like I'm saying, like, I am hard.
	Yeah, I love hard and I'm a gentleman.
	And then they just maybe feel she's too much.
	Yeah, and I'm like, she's putting her orgasms.
	No.
	No, we're talking about feelings.
	Like I said, you get open.
	I was explaining that I was explaining that most men don't have the leverage to just leave relationships.
	Like women typically leave a relationship.
	Okay, what I remember faking it is.
	Yeah, men will stick around.
	Yeah, men stick around.
	You want a relationship or do you want that man?
	If the person is still not enough mature to actually engage with feelings, they get scared when a woman give a bit too much.
	I think that's what it is.
	I like when a woman gives too much.
	Yeah, me too.
	Like, I would like it if she's down bad.
	I like it if she's simping.
	You're mature.
	There's not a lot of people.
	You would love to have that.
	She can't be hard.
	You're simping and submissive at the same time.
	No, you can.
	Wait.
	You're asking for too much.
	Oh, too much.
	Wait, so it's either singing.
	I think from my experience, when I've like, you know, I'm always complimenting him and saying like how much I care about him and like doing things from me like, hey, you want to come over?
	Like I'll cook you dinner.
	Like I'll do this for you.
	I'll do that for you.
	I think you're dealing with a guy.
	I've never.
	Who's got a lot of other women?
	That's not just one occasion, though.
	It's been more occasion.
	It's not even necessarily that you're doing anything wrong.
	It's that maybe you're dealing with a level of guy who's just dealing with a bunch of other women who's dating other women.
	And no matter like how good you act.
	So every guy I've dated has been dealing with other women then.
	That's usually how we go.
	You could also be dating outside of your caliber.
	Like Brian was just explaining.
	Could be.
	Like, are the men, would you describe the men that you date as?
	I have dated so many different kinds of men.
	I've dated guys shorter than me, taller than me, hotter than me, not hotter than me.
	I've dated.
	So which guys do you tend to want the commitment from?
	And they don't give you the commitment.
	None of them give me the commitment.
	That's why I'm single.
	Would you say you have self-worth?
	Yeah.
	I'm beginning to wonder if there's something wrong with you.
	Yeah.
	I am too.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I am too.
	I don't know.
	Please tell me.
	No, no, no, like, psychologically, like...
	I think it's because you look like the Mona Lisa.
	Wait, don't you?
	I'm curious about your question.
	I have a question.
	So my question is, when you're inviting this guy over.
	I'm kind of right, bro.
	Inviting this guy over to your place that you take care of to make food that you've probably bought.
	We're like already like my question was: Were you guys already committed?
	No.
	Okay.
	Because it feels like you're not.
	Yeah, sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Pull that up.
	You're giving too much.
	That's immediately.
	Sometimes you're giving too much, and then it's you're giving too little.
	And it's just like, I feel like no matter what it is, I try to find a needle.
	You should always give it, I think.
	Always give too much.
	That doesn't feel manipulative.
	I can't ever say that.
	Manipulative.
	Well, I don't want to like love bombing.
	It's so manipulative.
	Wait, do you mean on the woman's part?
	If she's just giving.
	Like, love bombing is popular.
	Yeah, I love it.
	I love when women give.
	Well, but she did on someone's way that love.
	She said that she goes and tries her best to know the person.
	She's love bombing, though, too.
	Can somebody paint the attention a lot?
	Photoshop.
	Here, look into this camera.
	Photoshop her face onto the Mona Lisa.
	Wait, bring it back.
	Zoom out because we got a close-up.
	That is code.
	Wait, we need your eyes.
	Do you see how her eyes are kind of like glant, like a little bit to the right?
	Like which way?
	My right?
	Smaller, smaller.
	Let's see the whole thing.
	Show us the whole thing.
	But do I look to my right?
	You have the same hands as her.
	That's weird.
	You have like the same.
	She needs.
	I didn't know Mona Lisa didn't have eyebrows.
	Here, look into this camera, but like kind of look a little bit to the left, other way?
	Too much.
	Too much.
	Okay.
	Yes, there it is.
	Okay, cool.
	All right, Photoshop that shit.
	All right, here, we're going around the table.
	Do you think you're going to be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you?
	Better looking.
	Better looking.
	Your looks, will they be better in 10 years' time at your 25, 35?
	Without Botox.
	Damn.
	Yeah, no plastic surgery.
	No, no.
	Aging.
	But yes, if with plastic surgery, I feel like we should just let them answer however maybe.
	No, it's fine.
	So, okay.
	And then, Daisy, you're 30 better looking in 10 years' time at 40?
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	And then, are you better looking now at 30 than you were at 20?
	Yes.
	Wait, we need, we need, do you have like old photos of you?
	We need to do a comparison.
	Huh?
	You've had it before.
	I don't know where it is, but maybe it's in.
	I'll look in the DMs.
	You're 22, better looking in 10 years' time at 32.
	Yeah.
	20 years' time, 42?
	Yeah.
	She's on some Mona Lisa shit.
	Okay.
	30 years' time, 52.
	No, that's when I started going down.
	Okay, so when's the peak?
	32 or 42?
	Like 32.
	Okay.
	You're 22 better looking in 10 years time at 32.
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	You're 36 better looking in 10 years time at 46.
	And then you're 36, were you better looking 10 years ago at 26?
	Actually, no, I have taken better care of myself now than when I was in my 20s.
	Like not as much drinking.
	So better looking now?
	Yes, I feel, yeah.
	Okay.
	You are 18, better looking in 10 years' time at 28?
	Yeah.
	Okay, better looking in 20 years' time, 38.
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 29, better looking in 10 years' time at 39.
	I doubt.
	Without surgery, I mean.
	Wait, aren't we the same age?
	Why are you 29?
	I'm 30.
	Because I haven't.
	It's 26 of July.
	It's still not July.
	I'm still 25.
	I'm October.
	I know.
	So I'm 29.
	Yes.
	Wow.
	We're from the same age, baby, but we still haven't had the birthday.
	Okay.
	I didn't notice I'm 30.
	No.
	A few months too.
	And you're so and 29, were you better looking 10 years ago at 19?
	Or better looking now?
	Way better right now.
	Okay.
	You're 25, better looking in 10 years' time at 35?
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 45?
	Yes, I'm going full-on Lindsay Lohan at that age.
	Better looking 30 years time, 55?
	55, I think I'll start aging gracefully.
	I think I'll be white by then, white hair.
	So, but still better looking at 55?
	Hmm, no.
	Maybe I'll look a little older.
	But when did you peak?
	35 or 45?
	Yeah, let's peak at 35.
	That sounds fair enough.
	Fair enough.
	Okay, cool.
	Well, we've age-advanced all of you with technology.
	And so, Damien, if you can get those pulled up.
	Crazy.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Sometimes you're not 30.
	No, I do not believe that.
	Okay.
	And Damien, do we have multiple batches?
	35.
	Okay.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	Holy shit.
	That's not true.
	I'm not going to let you get away with this.
	How did you go?
	Here's the weird thing.
	Here's the weird thing, Daisy.
	How did you go from being Asian to Latina?
	Like you were Asian, you're Asian, and then now you're a Latino.
	I'm still Asian.
	No, but you became Latina.
	You look Latina.
	I think a lot of effort.
	You look like somebody's a Huela workout.
	Abuela.
	Because as you know, I was an athlete so that I can change my body.
	Besides my bench paper.
	Could you bench press me?
	I don't do bench press.
	I used to do lifting.
	You could squat me, though, for sure.
	Oh no, I'm kind of choking.
	I guess so.
	What about you?
	What?
	What was that?
	Oh, sorry.
	Next one.
	Wait, we skipped.
	Did we skip?
	No.
	Hey.
	Wait, double check it.
	Can you check?
	Maybe we missed one.
	Yo, what the fuck is this?
	Holy shit, bro.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, there wasn't a bird.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	Damn, you got lucky.
	But the Mona Lisa one's coming up, so okay, let's pull it back up.
	Okay.
	You look like the lunch lady.
	You know what?
	Yeah, hell yeah.
	I'm going to be a lunch lady.
	That'd be fun.
	Oh, my good God.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, next.
	Uh-oh.
	I age differently.
	Like, my mom is still hot, and she's like, What makes us all so red?
	Is she single?
	No, she's with my daughter.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was just.
	Wait, why did you ask me the same thing last time I was here?
	do you have like a mom like fetish I just say I just realized you just asked me my mom was sick Bro, I've just made the jokes.
	It's jokes.
	It's just jokes.
	Okay, next.
	But Brian likes Asian women.
	What the fuck?
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	How do you say like grandma in Italian?
	No, nah.
	No, nah.
	It's okay.
	That is not that bad.
	Okay, next.
	So wait, you said better at 40, right?
	Yeah, because the Lindsay Lohan filter, you guys didn't put that one.
	No, but we put on like that image filter.
	Where's my Lindsay Lohan?
	Honestly, that's like 35 in the middle.
	That might be 45, that could be, that's 45.
	That's probably 45.
	I feel like Redhead's, you know, very fair skin.
	She looks blonde in those pictures, though.
	Yeah, next.
	I change in lighting.
	Whoa.
	Look at Morgan Freeman on her.
	I gave you the dots and everything, bro.
	What the fuck?
	Wait, did they give you the dots?
	I'm done.
	A little bit, man.
	You're handsome, you're handsome grandpa cue.
	All right, next.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	Stop that almost.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, boy.
	Fuck.
	That's fucked up, dude.
	Holy fuck, man.
	Y'all did me dirty.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Is there a next?
	Nice and four.
	Okay.
	Yeah, she got out.
	Adriana, you got it.
	Is that my last time?
	All right, next.
	Oh, okay, wait.
	So hold on.
	Some context here.
	Really quick.
	We're doing gender swap for this.
	Really quick, though, I want to read this chat because it came in.
	This was related to our conversation.
	Women, oh, they replaced the word women F who they want and marry who they can.
	Men, F who they can and marry who they want.
	So there's that.
	Yo, Seth.
	Thank you so much for the Streamlabs message, man.
	W's in the chat for Seth there.
	Sorry that you got rainbowed.
	my bad man it's just right yeah Oh.
	Wait.
	Oh.
	Oh, that actually looks really good.
	Wow.
	I took some MILF.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's cool, man.
	We'll go to the gender swap then.
	Okay.
	Not bad.
	Not bad.
	Is that Daisy?
	Wait, we skipped our homegirl over here.
	Oh, there.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So the question is, would you date the male version of you?
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Now you can pick without beard in the middle or with beard.
	With beard.
	But would you date that guy?
	Sure.
	Okay, cool.
	Next.
	Daisy, would you date the male version of you?
	Dan, Dane.
	Say it?
	No, no, no.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	Danzie's like my dad.
	Why did you shrink?
	Why didn't you shrink that head?
	Come on.
	Her head became small.
	Wait, I can.
	I have a witness here.
	She knows what my dad looks like.
	Is that what you're doing?
	That literally looks like my dad.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Would you date?
	Oh, wait.
	I can't say that because I wouldn't date someone that looks like my dad.
	Like, that's just weird.
	But it's not your dad.
	It's the female version or male version of you.
	But I'm just going to constantly have that thought.
	Like, this man looks like my dad.
	It's not attractive.
	You should.
	That sometimes happens.
	Wow.
	You're talking shit about your dad?
	I love my dad.
	My dad's my best friend, but man.
	But some respect.
	I couldn't wake up in the morning and see somebody that's like.
	You would be so creepy.
	It would be weird.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	I know.
	Australia.
	Would you would you date him?
	I would.
	I'd go surfing with him.
	We'd have little picnics.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Not a bad burnout, right?
	Yeah.
	Not bad.
	Which one do you prefer, though?
	Beard or no beard?
	No beard.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Guys, everyone's hopping on.
	All right, next.
	That looks like my little brother.
	That looks like Edward.
	Wait, fuck, what's his name?
	He looks like the guy from Impractical Joker.
	Who's the guy from American History X?
	Edward Norton.
	Oh, yeah, Edward Norton.
	Yeah.
	You look like that's my dad's favorite actor.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'm.
	A little bit.
	Maybe not.
	I don't know.
	Would you date either one of the guys?
	Beard.
	You would date the beard.
	Yeah, because the middle one looks like my little brother.
	Okay, nice.
	Next.
	That is no.
	And there's like curly hair.
	Like, that's a good idea.
	Would you date either one?
	If the middle one had curly hair.
	It could be your Ethiopian king.
	This guy doesn't even look Ethiopian.
	I don't know what he looks like.
	He looks, yeah, I don't know.
	A little too feminine.
	I think a little too feminine.
	A little too feminine, but you wouldn't date him in any case.
	These are fine.
	If he had curly hair, because I know I would have curly hair.
	Gonna have an afro.
	Okay, next.
	Hell no.
	Hell no.
	Wait, who does who's that tennis player?
	Who's that tennis player?
	No.
	No, Jacobic.
	Wait.
	What is it, Jamie?
	Jawanda now is sponsoring Lacoste?
	Does anybody chat?
	Who's the tennis player?
	She looks like a... Fuck.
	He's Polish?
	Whereas a Polish last night?
	I look so much like my brother.
	It's just so weird to see.
	You have a man bun, too.
	A man bun.
	Jokovic?
	Jakovic?
	Novak Jakote?
	Does she look like Novak?
	Show us who he is.
	Kai.
	Hey, Damien, Google.
	Just image search.
	Novakovic.
	Djokovic.
	Joko.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	She kind of looks a little.
	Image search.
	Pull it up.
	Yep. A little bit more.
	I love you.
	A little bit.
	Okay, let's go to the next.
	Guys, like the video if you're enjoying the stream.
	Like the video if you are enjoying the stream.
	Would you date?
	I don't know.
	You kind of look gay, bro.
	Yeah, I was about to say, I didn't want to say it.
	that's a metrosexual.
	Would you date?
	I shouldn't have said that.
	Well, because it tainted your answer, maybe.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	No, I would not.
	Are you repulsed?
	Are you disgusted?
	No, not really.
	He looks like my cousin.
	Yeah, like a best friend or like a brother.
	No, the guy in the middle looks like he's bawling his eyes out.
	Like, he looks really sad.
	He looks like he just got finished crying.
	He's like, I'm fine.
	I'm fine.
	He's been rejected one too many times.
	Next.
	Oh, shit.
	Look at him.
	Damn, bro.
	That's his neck.
	Listen, really.
	He set me up, Q. Holy cow.
	Hey, if you ever go trans, I mean.
	Wait.
	You would.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	Next.
	Oh, okay, next.
	Oh, okay.
	It's the dolls next.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, no.
	Man, why you gotta make me all fat and shit?
	Wait, who's that?
	Oh, that's me when I was thin.
	What?
	That's young Brian.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Relax, okay, Daisy.
	I know you're a little turned on right now.
	Okay, I got some shawls from the saint.
	That is not.
	Damien, show me, show me, show young Brian.
	Do we still have that photo?
	Like in my blue shirt?
	How old were you in that picture, if you remember?
	20.
	It was like 12 years ago.
	Wow.
	That's young Brian.
	12 years ago?
	Wow.
	Wait, no, no, no.
	I was like maybe 21 here.
	I think I was 21.
	What happened to my Abercrombie?
	Fuck, dude.
	Age is a bitch.
	But it's only 12 years.
	Age is rough.
	Yeah.
	Well, I was thin.
	I was fit.
	I was getting sun.
	And now.
	Hey, but you can still work out and get sufficient shave.
	You live by the beach.
	Yeah, shave.
	I guess.
	I need to lose some of the bad things.
	literally go outside and get a little do we have more Damien or was that it for the okay Check if there's any more in the batch because maybe we got the Mona Lisa that came through.
	Oh, wait.
	Ogle, did I miss?
	Oh, no, I didn't.
	I played that TTS.
	Okay.
	We're going to get into the rest of the show notes here.
	That was a fun little segment.
	Anything, Mona Lisa?
	Mona Lisa?
	Really?
	Well, keep an eye out if you can because it's going to come through probably.
	Okay, who's – wait, we have Nicole.
	Nicole, right?
	Hot take: long distance is good for relationships.
	Are you currently in the long distance relationship?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I actually don't disagree.
	I think that sometimes like having that separation can be hope distance makes the heart grow fonder.
	Well, also about like trust, like if you have to trust your partner and you know, not being with them all the time, you don't know exactly what they're up to, but just having that open line of communication, like that, like that sets a good foundation for the rest of the relationship, you know?
	Yeah, that's what I think.
	Sure.
	You also wrote in your notes, you had to live with your ex for four months after you guys broke up in a studio apartment.
	Yeah, it was very interesting, but it was probably top three worst experiences of my entire life.
	It was so bad.
	It got really toxic, obviously.
	And like in the apartment, it literally is just the studio.
	It's all open.
	So we couldn't get away from each other.
	But then we also had the same group of friends and we had a dog together.
	And were you guys dating other people?
	Like he wasn't doing it.
	I did.
	I did find out that he brought a girl back to our apartment, but I caught him because I FaceTimed him to ask him a question and I saw a girl's phone on the bed.
	And I go, whose phone is that?
	He goes, What phone were you talking about?
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	And I was like, whose phone is that?
	And then finally, like 20 minutes later, he's like, he's like, okay, fine.
	This girl, I forget her name.
	I think it was Jess, but he was like, yeah, no, she just came over to say hi to Chopper, which was our dog.
	And I was like, put a page with me.
	Okay, buddy.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	You said you ripped up a corner of your ex's fake ID so that the bouncer would notice and take it so he'd stop going out to like clubs and bars without you.
	And it worked?
	Yeah.
	I took like, how old was I?
	I think I was 20 or 19 at the time, and he had a fake ID.
	And I took tweezers and I peeled up the like little film on the outside of fake IDs so that it would like start peeling and the like bouncer would notice.
	And it worked.
	The bouncer took it and he didn't go out again.
	Damn.
	I mean, I'm seeing it's a fake ID, okay, but ruin a real one.
	It's wild.
	Wild.
	It's wild.
	Hunter's at the bathroom, so I'll go to.
	Why don't we do?
	You know what?
	Let's do Aaliyah.
	Aaliyah.
	So you.
	I noticed on your Instagram that you have, maybe these are older photos.
	You have armpit hair.
	Yeah.
	Do you are you rocking still?
	No.
	Or that was like a hippie phase when you were in the college for metaphysics.
	I was very hippie before.
	I like to have shoes.
	Wait, before?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you kind of still are, aren't you?
	Do you think?
	A little bit, right?
	I don't know.
	Very different lifestyles now.
	But yeah, I didn't wear shoes.
	I was like hardcore vegan for seven years.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's dope.
	Lived in Hawaii.
	Is it because of your awakening at 16?
	So I was super hippie.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	On your Instagram, you describe yourself as an oracle.
	Why do I say that?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Why?
	What sound were you going to play?
	I was going to do this.
	What is an oracle?
	What is that?
	Yeah, I feel like women are oracles.
	Like, they're more intuitive.
	They can.
	Our oracles.
	Yeah.
	Okay, go ahead.
	And I see myself as like an intuitive woman.
	Wait, women are like insightful.
	They're depthful.
	They have intuition.
	They see the bigger picture, not just the one, two steps in front of them.
	So you can look to them for like wisdom or insight, emotional intelligence.
	Women's intuition.
	Like women's intuition.
	They're more intuitive, yeah.
	But, like, let me ask you a question: why is it if women have all this intuition, do y'all keep dating these fucking scumbags?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, these were, oh my god, he was so abusive, and he was a narcissist.
	Why didn't you intuit the narcissism and the abuse, toxicity, toxic, everything you complain about after?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I feel like women are programmed through society and conditioning to focus on love and like everything else will follow and to kind of take care of a man, be there for a man, please a man.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, women kind of are groomed to like be that way for a man.
	Women are groomed.
	Not by men, but by like society and conditioning.
	Maybe influence.
	Influence.
	But at the end of the day, we're the family who give us these kind of teachings on how to behave, like how to take care of the house, cooking, cleaning.
	I mean, my father doesn't do anything.
	But that's, I mean, my father is 86.
	Like, my parents are really old.
	But that's generation, as she said.
	Yeah.
	That's what they're teaching us.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what's wrong with that, though?
	It's self-sacrificing.
	A woman's more in her power when her cup is full.
	Like, if a woman is really taken care of and she feels beautiful, she becomes radiant.
	And then that's when she's her most nurturing.
	That's when she's her most loving.
	That's when she's her most feminine.
	So if you want a society of like servants, like make women feel like they're not powerful and just have them be sacrificing.
	I'm sorry, what?
	Hold on.
	So, I'm confused though.
	Like, what do you mean by powerful?
	Like, what does that mean?
	Like, magnifying opportunities, manifesting.
	Manifesting what?
	Even just like health.
	Like, a woman that's radiant and happy and healthy will have a healthier baby more often.
	You know, so being able to create from that space of radiance, being able to create from that space of power, as opposed to if you're self-sacrificing, maybe you're not eating as healthy, or maybe you're putting things into your body to try and be skinnier that are not really good for you as like to serve or please like a man.
	So you're talking like birth control?
	Birth control.
	Okay, so you're anti-birth control.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, not like for everyone, but for myself.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Or you're talking about like Ozempic, it sounded like stuff like that.
	Like women, they're trying to be thin, so they take Ozempic.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just overall, like the culture of it.
	I don't know if I even.
	It's kind of out there a bit, but so wait.
	Tie this back to the whole Oracle thing, I guess.
	Oracle?
	Yeah, you're an oracle, like you're a psychic.
	Oracle, meaning that I guide my life through going like inwards, and I find that there's wisdom or nourishment or positive impact that happens from going within and giving outwards as opposed to like outwards in, which is kind of what a man is.
	Panel.
	Remind me, did she not say she was a psychic?
	Didn't you?
	Right?
	I remember.
	She said.
	You're a psychic, right?
	I've practiced that, yeah.
	I want you to prophesize something about me right now, work or Damien.
	I mean, she did already guess that you were Taurus.
	Lucky guess, obviously.
	But future changes also on depending on how you are, like the vibrations you're emanating, the emotion you're feeling.
	If you're really depressed, you're going to manifest vibrations.
	Yeah, universe attraction and all that kind of stuff.
	I mean, if you're positive today, you could have a positive future.
	If tomorrow something really bad happens and you get down with your mood and really depressed, your future will change and it will not be the same as when you were happy.
	Same for Taro, oracles when you go for these places for readings.
	They only read your energy of the present when you're asking.
	It's fine.
	It's no big deal.
	Fucking tarot cards, bullshit.
	It's all bullshit.
	Astrology bullshit.
	It's fine.
	What about religion?
	Well, I would say the same.
	Religion.
	Well, I mean, like, I'm agnostics.
	I mean, I have positive sentiments towards religions, though.
	Like, I'm pro-I'm not religious, but I'm pro-Christianity.
	It's related, though.
	What do you mean?
	Like, there's a lot of value in the, I guess, in the organization of it, but then on the individual level, like, that faith, I think there's a lot of value there.
	On the macro and micro level, when it comes to religion, it gives you a moral compass in a sense.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	But are you religious, Daisy?
	Yes.
	I'm on Buddhism.
	Oh, Buddhism.
	Okay.
	Huh?
	I wouldn't say I'm religious, but I believe in Buddha.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, no, the astrology stuff, I just can't get.
	I don't get it.
	Tarot cards?
	If you're happy today, you're going to attract better things, positive things.
	I think good things happen to bad people, bad things happen to bad people.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, but still, you gotta keep positive.
	No, I think it's good for optimism.
	Yeah, also.
	I don't know.
	But okay, you're psychic, psychic, me.
	Practiced it.
	Practiced it?
	Yeah, I feel like it's a skill that anyone can have and stress about.
	What's in Daisy's future?
	Tell me that.
	I don't practice it anymore, but.
	Well, you will practice some right now, bro.
	You're on the podcast.
	I already read it.
	Look, I'm a psychic too.
	I'm going to make some predictions.
	Q and Daisy are going to fuck after the show.
	You.
	What?
	What?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	There was a moment just made a joke.
	He just made a joke.
	It was just like.
	You guys are going to have carnal knowledge after the show.
	No.
	Aaliyah, you are going to, you're going to become, you're going to become a, what's it called when you, A mercenary.
	What's that?
	It's when you're paid to be a soldier.
	Like, you are a mercenary and you're going to sell yourself to some African.
	You're going to be like a, because you know how to like shoot guns and shit.
	Maybe in the future.
	And you're going to sell yourself as a mercenary and then you're going to go down in a blaze of glory like fighting some like cannibalistic like sounds like imagination and not intuition.
	You are going to be a background dancer for Kanye's reunion tour.
	I wouldn't mind.
	Yeah, you, no, sorry.
	Hunter's over here.
	You, Nicole, sorry, I got my wires crossed.
	Nicole, you are going to start a really successful maple syrup company.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like the Northeast.
	There's a lot of maple syrup going on about it.
	Bankrupt.
	Oh, and then you're going to drown your sorrows in booze.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Yes.
	You over there, you're going to move to Hawaii and I don't know.
	That's it.
	That's all I got.
	You're just going to move to Hawaii.
	You are going to.
	I know you said you like black men, but you're going to actually date a white dwarf.
	That's going to be your husband.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a white dwarf, but he's going to take really good care of you.
	You over there, Miss Italia.
	Diletta.
	What?
	Italia.
	Oh, your name?
	Was that your name?
	Diletta.
	Yeah.
	You are going to be gunned down in the streets of Sicily because you're a fucking mafioso associate.
	Jesus Christ, don't say that.
	Don't ever joke about mafia in general.
	Don't do that.
	Don't.
	Don't.
	Seriously.
	No, I mean, we have it.
	It still exists.
	And people are still getting kills.
	So, I mean, let's not really.
	You just put a target on her.
	No, no, no.
	I'm Chill.
	I'm Chilla.
	I'm from the North.
	This is 18.
	We could, but that's not.
	It's a light-hearted dating podcast.
	Okay, fine.
	You will become the mafia boss.
	He's going to make a target on her.
	You're going to be like somewhere, maybe in the forest, far away from the fire.
	Hunter, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	Hunter over here, you're going to.
	I'm sorry to tell you, but you're going to be Elon Musk's fifth baby mama or whatever the fuck it is.
	Damn.
	Q, you're going to be a.
	You're going to play in the NBA.
	You still have time.
	To grow.
	Hey!
	Well, I mean, Elon is making a lot of money.
	I've seen him ball.
	I've seen people ball posts.
	You never know.
	You never know.
	No, he's got.
	He can be a little bit more.
	Yeah, but like the, and I heard the NBA, like, actually, like, has, like, a height requirement.
	Excuse you.
	No, like, actually, chill out.
	You'd be like Market Smart 2.0.
	Okay.
	And then me.
	I'll give you.
	I agree with you.
	I'm going to, after doing a few more years of this show and slowly losing my sanity, I'm going to write a manifesto and then move to the forest and never be heard from again.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's not so bad.
	Not the forest of the beach in Hawaii.
	Oh, but are you guys now together?
	Oh.
	I mean, you already met on a date.
	From the beginning.
	Those are hints.
	Should be like the new hinge promotion.
	Okay.
	Here we have a chat coming through.
	Michael Jones donated $200.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	If Chair 1 is an oracle, then I'm a level 12 wizard.
	Astrology, tarot, crystals, vibrations.
	Women will do anything except submit to our Lord, Jesus Christ.
	Brian and Q, keep it real.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, sir.
	You also have crystals.
	Yes.
	I asked you to bring a crystal.
	Yeah.
	But you had already left.
	You already left home.
	I saw on Instagram she has crystals, boys.
	Can you guys spam crystal emojis in the chat?
	Okay, so put her.
	We're going to put you in a crystal.
	Let's pull up her Instagram posts.
	There's two of them.
	There's one about dark femininity, and it's something about, I don't know.
	We'll pull up the first one.
	Make it bigger How I prepare my body as an altar for him when he is anchored.
	Wait, no, you read it.
	When he is anchored.
	How I prepare my body as an altar for him when he's anchored in his divine masculine, loyal to our union and leading us with integrity.
	Next?
	Like, go to the arrow.
	Wait.
	Bro, what the fuck?
	What the fuck is that?
	Go back.
	What the fuck, dude?
	Read that shit again.
	Read that shit again.
	Read it.
	How I prepare my body.
	Like, this is so flowery.
	And then you're literally in fucking doggy style.
	What?
	This is from so long ago.
	I thought I deleted all of those.
	Nope, definitely not deleted.
	I just thought that's funny because it's all like, my body is a temple.
	I'm preparing it for.
	You're in like doggy stuff.
	That could still be soft, though.
	No, I know.
	It's just.
	Anyways, next one.
	There's another Instagram thing.
	Me when he listens, or you read it.
	Go ahead.
	Me when he listens, like a good boy and trusts my dark feminine.
	Wait, I don't even know if we can go over to.
	I don't even.
	I don't think I even saw what was on the next one.
	Damien, just clear it for me.
	Tell me what's on the next image.
	What is it?
	What about a recent one?
	Andreish?
	Next one?
	Is it love the aesthetic, by the way?
	Okay.
	Love the aesthetic.
	Go back to the beginning.
	All right, pull that shit up.
	Okay, when he's listening.
	What the f next?
	Bro!
	That's crazy, man.
	Okay.
	Those are really cool pieces.
	Thank you.
	Sometimes pictures do not match the caption.
	That's how.
	Okay, girls do that.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Anyways, I read, I think in one of your Instagram posts, you can close those out, Damien.
	Delicious expressions of divine feminine, lick her, taste her, breathe her, love her, make it divine, sacred room, juicy healing, feminine magic with a K. What?
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, what is magic with a K?
	And can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
	Leave it there.
	Okay.
	Are you in your divine feminine right now?
	Where are you at right now?
	I'm just doing a check-in.
	Always.
	Are you in your divine feminine?
	It's like a belief, yeah.
	Am I in my divine masculine right now?
	I would say so.
	You're in purpose.
	You're.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I don't know what that means, though.
	Divine feminine.
	Is there any girl here you're like, this bitch is not in her divine feminine right now?
	No.
	They're all in.
	Even her?
	Even her?
	What are you talking about?
	I don't know.
	I'm just curious.
	What's the shade?
	No shade.
	It's no shade.
	I'm just asking.
	You have to say that.
	No, I was just using his example.
	It's totally fine.
	Yeah, I think it's like an internal thing.
	I feel like divine feminine is a connection of softness, of release, of like submitting, of being open to like the world, and that's personal, depending on like what that is for each person.
	I have a question for you.
	Do you believe in energy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I got a PhD in metaphysics.
	Did you?
	From a mention that before?
	From an online school.
	Nice.
	I noticed on your Instagram and sitting across from you that you have something interfering with your energy flow.
	Yeah, what's that?
	The stall?
	No.
	You have lip filler.
	Yeah.
	And fake titties.
	Yes.
	I see your aura.
	This is a personality.
	And there's like a lot of red energy coming like tension coming from the fuck.
	That's just your perspective, Brian.
	No, it's blocking off.
	It's blocking because you got plastic up in there.
	That's not divine.
	No, you're not.
	It's not divine for you.
	You just put your natural woman.
	No, you're right.
	I do.
	You gotta go out there.
	Daisy, your chakras are all fucked up, bro.
	What?
	Your shit's fucked up.
	What do you mean?
	The energy, bro.
	Oh, no, I'm not.
	Daisy, the energy flow.
	No, my energy is perfect.
	I've been doing no, not like caffeine energy.
	Like your energy, your key, your chi, your fucking keto.
	Fucking shit, man.
	It's fucked up.
	The fake titties are blocking your fucking energy, son.
	No, that's not true.
	I'm telling you, Daisy.
	I'm a fucking oracle, okay?
	And I'm telling you, bro, the fake titties, I'm an expert.
	It blocks your fucking energy.
	That's okay.
	I never did a guy like you.
	What's it got to do with me?
	Why are you bringing me into this?
	I'm just trying to.
	You're bringing me right now, like my fake titties or something like that.
	I love the way I am.
	No, you're fine.
	You're really.
	You got fake titties.
	That's fine.
	I'm just saying it's blocking the energy flow, son.
	What's a good energy?
	Like, oh, natural women.
	I'm not saying you're negative.
	I'm just saying the energy flow.
	Like the heart fall.
	You're saying you can't read the energy because the heart chakra.
	I don't think so.
	I think you just feel intimidated by me.
	A lot of men do.
	You know what?
	I'm a little intimidated.
	A lot of men do.
	I don't mind.
	It's okay.
	Elon Musk won't.
	I think she could beat me up in a fight tonight.
	I actually.
	I've been very careful with my words tonight.
	Look, Daisy, I'm just.
	Aaliyah.
	I think you got to get, just so we can rebalance and recenter your energy.
	I think the titties got to come out.
	We got to get a titty removal.
	Like a fake titty removal.
	What you got?
	I just got them done.
	You got, what is it?
	The gummy bear?
	What you got?
	Yeah.
	Are you just adjusting, Daisy?
	I'm just adjusting the stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Although I do have heavy eats.
	You got some bizongas on you.
	Do you have like back problems?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just very heavy.
	Curious.
	Are you.
	What is it?
	Is it the implants?
	The gummy bear?
	Okay.
	Can you explain what that is?
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	I guess it's a type of.
	So there's different kinds of like implants to look real.
	I guess it looks more realistic, maybe feels different.
	Yeah, I like the feel of it.
	It's more like gummy bear.
	It feels like a gummy bear.
	Thank you.
	Look, the energy, I'm just looking out because divine feminine energy, you can't have that plastic in the way.
	Like, you got to let that shit flow through your body.
	Like the lip filler, too, that's going to fuck your shit up.
	It's going to fuck, fuck you up.
	And I'm just looking out.
	We got.
	Can lip filler ever be removed or is that shit permanent?
	It starts to go up your cheeks from what I dissolve it.
	It dissolves.
	Can you?
	It feels in your neuronality if you just peed.
	I thought that shit is perma.
	No, no, because you just clumped out this.
	But Kataronikasi, you peed.
	You peeped.
	Yeah, your body into my body just fixed out your lips.
	No, that's just perma, bruh.
	Yeah, that's I don't think it leaves.
	Checking out the Botox.
	You start to get an objection.
	It's not all just good.
	You're not good by starting to get this stuff.
	There's gonna have a repercussion.
	I'm just as an oracle/slash medium.
	I do think that You gotta, you can't be putting plastic into your body.
	As an oracle, you don't really say I.
	It's more a non-bias.
	I apologize.
	I'm sorry.
	You just said I. You remove your energy from me.
	we have a tts coming in yo thank you for the oh thank you graffito Graffito tanked to me.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	Chair one epitomizes the concept of woo-woo.
	Unconventional beliefs regarded as having little or no scientific basis, especially those relating to spirituality, mysticism, or alternative medicine.
	Yes, that's correct.
	Epitomizes?
	What does it mean?
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	Perfect English.
	Thank you, Graffito.
	Yo, W's in the chat for graffito.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	We have a message here.
	Hairy Bagdaddy.
	Perhaps the Gilf in Chair 5 is right.
	All the other girls on the panel younger than her have no agency.
	If they had any, they would have found the implications of her comments offensive.
	I don't get it.
	Oh, it's related to the age gap stuff.
	All the age gap conversation.
	Hairy Bagdaddy.
	I think in the OnlyFans and the plastics.
	Yeah.
	I was actually surprised I didn't piss anyone off.
	Word.
	Word.
	So listen, are you down to take out the fake titties?
	Nope.
	Because I feel like I'm, you know, I'm kind of like a.
	I feel like maybe you want some because you're very obsessed with it.
	Huh?
	What?
	You can't think of it.
	He's going to steal your fake titties and use them for himself.
	Oh, yeah, I can feel the gummy bear aura from over here.
	very colorful all right anyways uh you wanted to talk about dating as a or wait i don't know if you wrote this Well, you're a single mom dating as a single mom.
	I think you're the only mom at the table, if I recall correctly.
	How's that been?
	Fine.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	That's dope.
	I'm so happy for you.
	Crazy dating stories.
	Helicopter tour for a first date.
	Yeah.
	Like this guy asked me out on a date and he said I have an open door helicopter tour I want to take you on.
	Were you worried because of the implication?
	What do you mean?
	Well, he was inviting you on the helicopter.
	Yeah.
	So there's like an implication.
	That what?
	Well, it's kind of like if a guy brings you on a boat because of the implication.
	I would have to do something?
	No, no.
	There's the implication.
	No.
	You know?
	Do you know what I mean?
	Like a little nerd.
	I don't have to worry about that.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	You dated a private driver, Beverly Hills, and he handed out hundreds to like 15 workers.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so he was balling.
	Well, it was just like a, like, keep, they had, like, a private driver come pick me up, and then we went to like a really nice dinner in Beverly.
	And then I, like, the whole time, he was, like, handing out $100 bills to, like, all the workers.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	You dated a drug dealer one time.
	Old you.
	You got into an altercation where there were guns.
	We allowed talk about that.
	Um, yeah, so like there is this guy that I was like kind of dating and we went out and yeah, I guess they had beef with like some of the people there and being the hippie inside of me, I was like trying to separate them.
	No.
	And then like my friend at the time, she was because we went together, she was like, I'm getting the F out of here.
	Like, she starts like running away, and I'm like chasing after her.
	And then it's like they had like this blacked-out G-Wagon, and you like scurry around the corner and like get in the fucking car.
	Did you get a skirt noise?
	No, okay.
	And then, yeah, like a helicopter was like following us, but we didn't realize till like I had to like OP and then like got out of the car.
	And then, yeah, some cop pulled up like right behind us.
	I was like, We've been following you.
	Wow.
	You also said you got offered a content gig for free Botox.
	And then, not a date.
	And then the doctor reached out to you and asked you to be his sugar baby.
	Yeah.
	So, did you get the free Botox?
	Yeah.
	I did, like, I did the content contact.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, I made, I was making TikToks for their brand.
	Where was the Botox?
	Where was it?
	I think you did my forehead.
	Forehead?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Why do you need why?
	I'm just gonna do it.
	Botox, what it does is it makes your muscles relax so you don't rat poison.
	Can you like, can you lift your eyebrows?
	And can cause depression.
	So.
	Lift your eyebrows.
	Yeah.
	Lift your eyebrows.
	I need to get a TikTok.
	Wait, lift your eyebrows.
	I can't really do that.
	Why?
	I just got it down.
	You got Botox done?
	Wait, can you guys lift your eyebrows?
	I'm trying to see the difference.
	I need to get a car again.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	It's hard in general.
	Just try, though.
	You can't?
	It's frozen?
	That's crazy.
	It's not frozen.
	It's a stroke.
	I have, how to say, how to say.
	I have implants under my eyebrows.
	Implants?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Because Asians have flat eyebrows.
	You have eyebrow implants.
	I've never heard about this.
	How much does this cost, too?
	I had everything.
	Yeah.
	Everything.
	Usually they know how much they tell us.
	Like, I didn't even look.
	I just typed the card.
	Daisy, how much total?
	How much total?
	200K.
	200K?
	Yeah.
	Did any guys pay for it?
	Yeah, I guess.
	Because I was with a guy that's a billionaire.
	I've been talking a while.
	Did you fumble him?
	Did you fumble the billionaire?
	Before I came to the state, I was basically with this guy.
	He was, he was my love.
	I actually fell in love with him, but he kind of like supported my lifestyle as well.
	Because as an athlete, I wasn't able to work as much as I could because I had to do the diet and competition all the time.
	But he actually, he supported.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, I was going to.
	We were going to look up the before and after photos.
	I'm going to see if we can find it.
	One sec.
	Daisy.
	I'm going to see if I can find a Daisy.
	I can send it to you.
	It's probably somewhere here.
	Here, while I'm doing that, you said you never dated but met this guy on the nap and he sent you 500, then disappeared.
	Yeah.
	Has any other girl here had a situation like that?
	I kind of had something like that.
	So I met this guy at a club and my friend had dragged me out that night and I wanted to go to work the next day.
	So I was just like, hey guys, like, you know, like it's getting late.
	Like, I'm going to head out.
	Like, I'm calling it a night.
	And then the guy was like, how much are you making at work tomorrow?
	I'll give you 1K right now to stay for the rest of the night.
	So, I mean, what did I do?
	I stayed for the rest of the night and then I went to work the next day and I made double the money.
	And then he kept sending me money for like a week or two via Zell and then like just poof, disappeared.
	Like never heard from him again.
	Like won't answer my calls, won't answer my texts.
	Maybe he does finance.
	He's a crypto scammer.
	Yeah, they do that.
	They have to.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So good times.
	Huh, interesting.
	We do have Daisy's different photos here.
	So why don't we get those pulled up in order?
	Make sure the zoom on them is good.
	So we're going to do a before and after, sort of, kind of.
	You got it?
	So this is 2015.
	Is this.
	You still got a boob job here, though, right?
	No.
	Completely natural.
	Daisy.
	I swear, 2015, I was like, what, like 20?
	Yeah.
	Those look like fake titties, I was like, yeah, we were in 2015, we were 19, 20.
	Oh, that wasn't titled.
	I didn't have fake titties.
	No, I remember that wasn't fake because my natural boobs are very like lifted.
	To be fair, that's why Matt's mind.
	She didn't have fake boobies.
	To be fair, though, this was taken on a phone in 2015.
	So the quality of the picture is not the best.
	So we can't make a definitive statement.
	I would say I have no issue telling you that I have to get things down.
	We'll take it as a compliment then because I think a bit well the bikini.
	Your boobies look like this is 2018.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That was my birthday.
	Next.
	This is bigger.
	That was 2013.
	Yeah, I was very young.
	Yeah.
	I thought you look good.
	I think you look good here.
	What do you like?
	You look fine.
	At that time, I was like very simple girl or like college girl or just like no, who likes to party, drinking, wearing hollis, you know.
	This is like.
	Okay.
	All right, next.
	Egypt.
	This is 2018.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	I don't know why do you have to bring that pictures?
	You sent it.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Let's get into the rest of the sh.
	The chat wanted to see them, I guess.
	All right.
	We had never dated, but or no, sorry, we already driving Malibu, and at the stoplight, guy came to my car, got my number, and next day took me and my friend on his boat.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	You said dating topics, how guys don't really have energy to come to you anymore or pursue, and it hinders their masculine energy.
	What do you mean?
	Meaning, without like the instant gratification of swiping or feeling entitled to ask a girl out right away, just like through your phone, prior to that, they would have to come up to you and build up the courage, figure out what they're going to say, not just like a copy-paste message that they're sending to us.
	When was this though?
	Because you're 25.
	How old are you?
	25.
	I'd be 26.
	Actually, dating apps have been around since like 2012.
	Are you actually more prevalent?
	Yeah.
	You're actually 25.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but you were 18 when?
	Like in 2018?
	Something like that.
	Yeah, dating apps were super prevalent.
	But I just feel like personally, I've always had that.
	Like, even when I was younger, like I always, even under age, I would always have people approaching me.
	But it's just not.
	And even with like other girlfriends, like it's just not really a thing anymore.
	Like they'll look at you, but they'll kind of wait for you to give them like the okay.
	Or they'll wait till they could write you on Instagram.
	But they'll be like, oh, I saw you at this place earlier.
	I'm like, okay, why don't you come home?
	Yeah.
	Say hi to me.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, how old's your kid again?
	She's six.
	So you had a kid that when you were 19.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You also guys don't really have energy to come to you anymore or pursue.
	I mean, I don't disagree.
	Like, guys are not approaching.
	I think they did a study recently that said, like, something like over 50% of men between the ages of 18 to 25 or some number, I don't know the exact age range, have never approached a woman in their entire life.
	It was 45.
	45%?
	It was 45.
	You said the real gold diggers are men that want a girl to be feminine and go 50-50.
	It only serves the man that's, and then there's a blank.
	Yeah, so I feel like this whole talk about girls being 50-50 with a man, I think in that situation, like the real gold digger is a man because they're still going to want a woman to cook and clean and be soft and be feminine and be their sex horse or whatever.
	And also do like the masculine part, which is providing, which is working.
	So at that point, like it's only serving the man because they're just having someone come in and help with 50% of their job and also get all the benefits of that.
	I totally agree with you.
	Yeah.
	So you're also saying that women decide if they want to be feminine or not for a man.
	I feel like I feel like a woman can do her absolute hardest to be feminine, but it really depends on if that man is actually lightening her load and if he's actually making her life easier and allowing her to do less thinking and more like less performative tasks like work and be the masculine.
	Yeah, then she can and be more in her flow and creative.
	By the way, I just want to say the questionnaire is going to be very interesting tonight.
	Okay.
	So the men who want 50-50 are gold diggers.
	I understand that women probably don't like that.
	I don't know if that makes them gold diggers, but men call women a gold digger all the time.
	Well, I guess you can call a guy maybe.
	I don't know if you could even call him a bum under these circumstances, but I mean, tell you what.
	Here, I want to challenge.
	So I'm just going to go ahead and agree with you.
	If you want a woman to be feminine, then you shouldn't go 50-50 with her, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	but you do sex work, right?
	Um, I do photos that I have an only fans.
	Yeah, that doesn't mean it's necessarily like sex work.
	You sure?
	All right, hold on.
	You sure?
	Yes.
	What do you do on OnlyFans?
	The photos that I would take on Instagram prior when I lived in Hawaii.
	Is there nudity?
	Not really.
	I have like three photos that like might be fully nude.
	But I know.
	That's why I've been off and on with it because it's not, I don't get much traction, I guess, with it because it's not something that I have passion to do.
	Let me read the description of one of your OnlyFans accounts.
	You say the perfect online girlfriend you've been dreaming of, here to be your everything, devilish emoji, ready to make you throb.
	What is that one again?
	My agency wrote that, but yeah.
	So, what is that?
	It's grapefruit.
	No, what is that?
	Eggplant.
	Eggplant.
	Oh my God.
	Fucking cooked.
	And keep you smiling, DM me, let's get close.
	In your OF description, you want to make a man's penis throb, bro.
	You ain't like.
	You gotta make money.
	You deserve 50-50.
	You have to make money off of what has the most money.
	And right now, men have the most money and their gaze and their desire for gays, the male gaze.
	Wait, but do you think this is any way commensurate with like a more traditional relationship dynamic?
	Like you want a guy to be all traditional, protect you, provide, and you're literally making random dudes on the internet bust in their pants.
	Like what?
	That's happened without even trying before.
	But that's not tradition.
	Like a traditional woman does not have naked photos of herself on the internet.
	She's not writing that she's trying to make some other dudes, whether I don't care if it's for money, I don't care if you have no interest in them.
	If you're writing, I'm trying to make you bust a nut.
	That's not a traditional woman.
	Enjoy your 50-50.
	Well, I didn't write it, but yeah.
	Doesn't matter.
	It's on your OnlyFans.
	Yeah.
	I have a gripe with this conditional submission femininity.
	When you're in a relationship, right?
	Regardless of if the relationship is 50-50 or not, don't you want the relationship to work if you're in it?
	Yes.
	Okay, so in what practical sense am I buying submission?
	I don't believe that submission is something that's bought.
	I believe the woman, I believe when a woman likes a man, she's submissive to him regardless because that's what it takes to make the relationship work.
	What do you mean by buy?
	You just said we want women to be submissive and please us and do X, Y, Z, but we don't provide in totality 100%.
	If we're going 50-50, does it ever occur that maybe the woman is in on going 50-50?
	Like, that's the standard.
	That's standard for most relationships today.
	That doesn't diminish her desire to submit to her man because the desire doesn't come from the fact that he's paying all the bills.
	It comes from the fact that she likes him and she respects him.
	She wants the relationship to work because if she's not submissive, they're going to have hella conflict and they're going to call it off.
	Well, that's not for me, but good luck to those that do that.
	But I'm saying, because you brought it up and you made it basically, I am paying 100% of the bills for you to be submissive.
	It's not to be submissive.
	I'm saying it naturally will incline a woman to be softer when she doesn't have to worry about X, Y, and Z.
	I think a woman liking you inclines her to be softer.
	Like if a woman likes me, she's going to be soft because she likes me.
	She wants the relationship to work.
	True.
	I'm not paying for that.
	I would never pay for a woman to be submissive to me because that just indicates that she doesn't genuinely like me.
	You're still always your girlfriend.
	Do you pay for the bill?
	Do I pay for the bills?
	Yeah, sometimes.
	But she also has paid for certain things.
	Like, she has taken me out on dates.
	That's okay.
	Most women do.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	That doesn't lessen the degree of submission or respect that she has for me.
	She still tells me I'm him.
	I'm the best thing in the world.
	It's actually a really good point.
	You can't go 50-50 on having a baby.
	Even if it is 50-50, what kind of relationship dynamic do you still want, anyways?
	Right.
	So you can't go 50-50.
	Other than that, and say, even if she is some like super successful breadwinner woman who's completely out-earning him massively, even then, she should still be submissive.
	She should still be submissive because what are you witting for?
	What are you witting for if you're not going to be submissive?
	He don't, you, even, like Brian just said in his case, you with a woman, she pays 100% of the bills.
	What the fuck are you doing with the guy?
	If you don't like him, you ain't gonna be submissive.
	What's the point of being in a relationship with him?
	No, you should definitely like who you're with.
	It's not about being bought.
	About for me personally, I can't see a man as masculine if he doesn't naturally want to provide and like take care of me.
	But does that mean he doesn't want to, or he just can't?
	Because things can change.
	We can be in a relationship and have to go 50-50 because I don't want to be Bob the Builder.
	Well, you don't have to be Bob the Builder, he's Bob the Builder himself.
	Yeah, I don't want to have to like build a man and wait for him.
	Like, I don't want to be the stepping stone and then eventually he'll leave me because I was the building girl.
	I was the one that he used to like help him create himself, used my energy, used me, like took my feminine from me.
	And then when he's built himself, oh, I'm going to go pick the 25-year-old or the 19-year-old.
	Okay, whatever.
	Didn't you end it with the guy you were dating who's the father of your kid?
	Yeah.
	So he didn't leave you?
	No.
	You left him?
	Yes.
	What you're leaving for?
	He wasn't masculine for me.
	So if a guy comes in and he gets with you and he pays everything, you're going to do everything that he said.
	It also depends on other factors.
	Like money.
	I think that should be a bare minimum.
	Like to me, that's bare minimum.
	So if a man though, like, because you're hitting on my father was unemployed when he met my mother.
	He was 23 when they met.
	Yeah.
	He was 23.
	She was 30.
	But he knew his vision.
	He was focused.
	And my mom trusted that.
	Yeah.
	And they're still together.
	And she said, and he built.
	He beat.
	That's what I'm saying.
	He's Bob the Builder himself.
	She didn't expect.
	Divorce rates are completely different.
	And I think back then, like, it was so different.
	Like, even my family is like that.
	My friends' families are like still together.
	Different values.
	Yeah, it's different values.
	And women were appreciated for standing by a man no matter what.
	No, they had tough times.
	I'm saying in general, like they were appreciated.
	Men were appreciated.
	It's the total reverse.
	Men were appreciated.
	There's a complete lack of respect and appreciation from women towards men.
	My dad just appreciated that he created a family.
	That was enough for him.
	Wait, a couple questions, though.
	You said that your ex, were you, you guys were not married, right?
	No, yeah.
	But you were together for 10 years, father of your kid.
	Besides him just not being masculine, was there anything else or was that just it?
	It got physical at one point, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, how many times did you beat him?
	How many times did I beat him?
	No, I didn't beat him.
	You were the initiator?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait, could you give like examples of him not being masculine?
	Like specifically?
	Yeah, examples would be that at that time, like I was also providing.
	At that time, I was bearing a child and also like working and like making all of the shots, managing the money, managing the home, managing the meals, the food, the etc.
	So doing like 90% of the work and then that, there just was no polarity.
	Like it was like responsibilities or my roommate or whatever.
	Yeah.
	And then on top of that, the trauma was like, no, thanks.
	Yeah, you kind of burned out about it.
	Were you expressing to him how you felt about that were you just going along with it?
	About what?
	When you started to notice the unbalance, like before the breakup, where you're like, hey, could you put in a little more effort?
	Were you communicating?
	Yes, but it was looked at as nagging because I was already locked in.
	Did you know how to communicate though?
	Because sometimes it does come off nagging.
	At that age, probably not.
	I was still like very conscious, but no.
	Like I don't think I was trying to be tempted.
	No, I don't think I was trying to be in my feminine.
	I'm like, we need to get X, Y, and Z done, and I can't trust you to do it.
	So I'm going to do it.
	You know, as opposed to like, let me take more time to be in my feminine, and maybe that will inspire you to desire me, and then that will make you more masculine.
	Like, I didn't think those things at the time.
	What if you are inherently feminine?
	You sound feminine.
	It's not something you just come to learn.
	But what does need to be learned is how to communicate.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Look, I realize women want masculine men, but you picked him.
	I was 11 when we met.
	Wait, hold on.
	The story's wait.
	Okay, you were 11 when you guys met.
	We're 10, yeah.
	And you guys were the same age, right?
	Yeah, he's like a year younger.
	Oh, he's a younger guy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you guys dated and then you had a kid at 19.
	I mean, look, you were young, right?
	But it's like, I feel, look, once you have a kid with a guy, you kind of passed up your chance to get the masculine, dude.
	What do you mean?
	You knew this guy for 10 years.
	I wasn't aware of the start.
	No, no, no, no.
	We were just like kids.
	And then it was like we were just really close.
	We really loved each other.
	It's like just that pure, innocent love.
	And then it was like as we got older.
	Puberty hit.
	Puberty, I'm a female.
	You're a male.
	We don't think the same.
	Like, why do I not like you anymore?
	Like, there's no polarity.
	Yeah.
	I guess it is complicated by the fact that they were so young when they were dating.
	But like if you're a woman and you're 23 and you meet a guy and then you guys are together for 10 years and you have a kid with him and then you decide, oh, he's really not as masculine as I'd hope he'd be.
	It's kind of like, look, you picked him, now he's the father of your kid.
	You guys fucking stay together.
	But in your case, look, it sounds there's also potentially, I don't know, the truth of what happened or didn't happen.
	Maybe there was some DV also going on.
	So obviously that for much another further complication.
	We have a couple chats here coming in.
	You know what, Daisy?
	I'm going to have you read it.
	Go ahead.
	Women don't understand they live life on easy mold.
	Run down guys will simp over them, give them stuff and things.
	What do you bring on the table to deserve those things?
	Thank you, Michael Jones, for the message.
	I think this is directed at you, Aaliyah.
	What do you bring to the table?
	I want to start off by saying I've blocked any guy that's ever said that to me.
	Yeah, I hate the question.
	I'm like, you what?
	Block.
	The second I get that question, I block.
	You block.
	Which ignorance.
	Can you block people in real life?
	Well, they want to say that right now in my face.
	What do you think?
	Probably if they're trying to pursue me.
	I mean, I don't see this thing.
	Oh, what do you bring to the table?
	The woman is the table.
	Hold on.
	Say that again.
	The woman is the table.
	Who agrees with her?
	Raise your hand if you agree.
	Oh, the woman's the table.
	I don't, what does it mean?
	Woman's the table.
	I feel like it's a metaphor that I might misunderstand or understand what does that mean.
	I don't know.
	Meaning, like, women inherently have value, being able to be loving, they submit.
	They're like the extension, the rib of a man.
	So they are like valuable.
	They have resources to a man in general.
	The man has to go and collect those resources and then bring them to the table and say, Do you want to pro-create with me?
	Do you want to submit to my lead?
	Do you want to be a part of union with me?
	So to say, what do you bring?
	Like a woman is inherently valuable.
	So I agree with you partly.
	So I think women have inherent value when it comes to dating dynamics that men don't have.
	Like most men have to become something to become attractive.
	They need to work on their charisma.
	They need to get their money.
	Whatever it is.
	Whereas women, you can just be like a hot 19-year-old and like all the guys want you.
	All the dudes want you.
	Oh my gosh.
	They're laughing at this, Michael Jones.
	They're enjoying your super chat.
	But I think where I disagree is that as a woman, you have to bring more to the table than just you.
	Like, and so what I'm saying by that, what I'm saying is, if pussy is all you're bringing to the table, because a lot of dudes are just happy to get some pussy, right?
	Oh, this is great, getting pussy.
	Yeah, do you put that on?
	But hold on, hold on.
	Sorry.
	That's not what we're saying, though.
	Yeah, it's not.
	But the point is.
	Kind of.
	But like, I think in terms of like, we're not saying, oh, bring money to the table.
	That's not what guys want.
	But you need to bring something that a lot of other women aren't bringing.
	So whether that could be lack of negative traits or it could be certain positive traits.
	So for example, I think this would be a lack of a negative trait.
	A lot of men deal with like quarrelsome, nagging women who are just, they fuck your piece up.
	And if you're a woman who can bring peace and you're not going to nag, you're not going to quarrel, you're not going to find fault with fucking everything he does, that's going to be a positive character.
	That's going to be, I guess, well, a lack of a negative characteristic, right?
	And so I think that if you can bring those things to the table, that's big.
	But your fucking money, don't care.
	I feel like a guy asking that question in general immediately in my mind puts them on the feminine spectrum.
	It's like, what can I receive from you?
	I'm going to receive.
	Prove yourself.
	Like, tell me what you can do.
	Not like, who are you?
	Let me get to know you.
	What are your traits?
	Like, if I give you the safe environment, who are you inside?
	Like, I think I got the status.
	Oh, because she put it well.
	I think it comes more from a place of have you introspected about what your strengths are in terms of what makes you relationship material.
	What makes you worthy beyond just us having sex?
	Because you say that women are the table.
	And some of y'all raised your hands that women are the table.
	But when you seeking commitment and guys are the gatekeepers of commitment, he's essentially saying, why should I commit to you?
	What makes you special relative to these other women?
	But I wouldn't answer that.
	Well, I mean, that's the nature of the question.
	I would rather say bye to that guy and like go to the guy that like actually wants to pursue me and actually knows that he likes me and is like, I want to take you out.
	I want to court you.
	I like I want to know about you.
	Like there's something that intrigues me about you.
	Not the guy that's like, oh, tell me like what's so special.
	No, I get that practically.
	I'm just saying the nature of the question is philosophical.
	So I'm saying that we ask that because we want to know what makes you special.
	Because if women are like you were saying, women are the table on the basis of what?
	Like, what am I getting?
	If I get into a relationship with you, what are you offering that makes the relationship worth being in?
	The ability to recreate life, which is like the most magical thing in the world.
	That's biology.
	Yeah.
	Every mammal can do that.
	Every female can do that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, in the human species, at least.
	Yeah.
	Well, mammals, period.
	Female mammals.
	Female males can't do that.
	Yeah.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	That's that's the, in essence, what we're what we're asking when we say that.
	I get that, but I would never be the kind of person to like try and prove something.
	I would rather go for the person that's sure about me.
	I think women are the table.
	I'll agree.
	The table manufacturer from the warehouse of the finest delusions.
	Thank you.
	Since you're a dating coach and you also said that your girlfriend also likes sometimes to pay for you, it means like that both of you have some feminine energy and sometimes also the masculine energy comes out also.
	Both is required.
	Both are required to be able to do that.
	It's more like a relationship to be balanced.
	It's not like, oh, what you bring to the table.
	It's like when you meet the person and you feel that you could connect, you also will learn what this person lacks.
	Maybe like, you know, insecurities or whatever.
	I feel like a good relationship is when we're together.
	If you lack something, I will help you to see another point of view as you will give it to me.
	I don't see it like all the time this materialistic thing.
	Oh, you give me the money.
	It has to be a bit more if it's really a real relationship and not just like who can out.
	It's beneficial on both hands.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, helping each other, not all the time being like, oh, what do you, oh, you gave it to me?
	Oh, oh, you did it.
	Whoa.
	I mean, we're going to be able to do that.
	Yeah, I mean, in a real relationship, you don't keep score.
	Yeah, that's what you're saying.
	Yeah, you don't keep score.
	I love paying for my boyfriend.
	I love when he also comes back home with a rose.
	Like, he really likes me because I know he thought about me.
	So I think that question should never be existing.
	Like, a question like that.
	Oh, it should exist.
	From the men, that's just like trans meaningful things.
	Yeah, but it makes women who say things.
	It makes women who say things like that.
	A man asked a question like that.
	I think it's very hard for him to think about it.
	I feel like the relationship's more of a job than like pursuing information.
	But the people in relationships aren't asking that.
	The question is a rebuttal to women who believe that women are the table because it's egotistical.
	It's narcissistic to say that.
	Women are the table.
	So it's comparative.
	It's like, well, what makes you so special?
	What makes you different from other women outside of sex?
	That's the point of the question.
	That's why you court and you go courtmanship.
	Like how birds bring seeds to the female.
	No, no.
	Or like some birds like dance.
	But okay, here, let me ask this.
	What do you think men should bring to the table?
	They should bring emotional safety.
	Okay.
	They should bring integrity.
	Integrity.
	Integrity.
	Okay.
	They should bring a healthy mindset.
	Like I can trust where they're going to take me mentally.
	Providing, protecting.
	Okay.
	And love, like just caring about you.
	But in certain areas shouldn't also be from a woman.
	Like I don't see all the time.
	No, yeah, I didn't say that.
	Like all the time we have to make these groups.
	Men do this, women do that.
	We both can be balanced.
	Sometimes I have this masculine energy.
	I'm not like he's super romantic.
	That doesn't mean that he has to be a pussy.
	Like we kind of like come next to each other.
	Like when I need something, he understands my needs.
	But I hate when people like all the time say, oh, women are these or men are these.
	We're literally human beings.
	The same.
	We're bleeding, same color.
	I feel like we should actually put a bit more the two genders together.
	I'm confused here because I'm sure if I asked the question, what should men bring to the table, all of you guys would list a whole bunch of things.
	When we're actually having a, whether you feel icked out about the question or not from an actual romantic partner, if we're having a conversation about it, you guys could all list all these things that men should bring to the table.
	What's wrong with asking what y'all bring to the table?
	No, no, nothing wrong, honestly.
	Well, she thinks there's something wrong.
	She thinks there's something wrong.
	No, I didn't ask.
	I didn't say something wrong.
	Can I just leave that big black microphone?
	Can I add something?
	You're grabbing it way too crazy.
	Okay, Daisy.
	I think it should be 100, 100.
	It shouldn't be square.
	I give you my all, you give me your all.
	And that's that's like a healthy way.
	But it doesn't.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	It should be.
	I'm not saying it is that way, but I'm saying like I should be giving my all to someone and they should be reciprocating the same thing.
	Sure.
	So look, I think there's a lot women can bring to the table.
	I'm happy to answer that one.
	One sec, though.
	So you mentioned courtship.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Courtship, men should be providers, protectors, emotional safety, integrity.
	My dear, you're a sex worker.
	You have OnlyFans.
	Don't say that.
	The truth.
	But it's the truth.
	That's not nice to say to a woman.
	That's very true.
	Women are not really sensual creatures.
	I mean, we go to women or something.
	I don't think a wife and husband get married.
	That's not a sex worker.
	That's just a sex worker for entire life.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I can't believe you've just said that.
	That's true.
	I literally cannot believe that.
	I'm just telling you that is true.
	That is the most important thing.
	I'd rather prefer a man who pays me for one time than doesn't want to pay me for the entire life.
	I'm not even going to interrupt you.
	Keep going.
	I agree.
	I mean, that's just the fact.
	A man, mostly when they want to marry a woman, they just want a woman who can give birth, taking care of the housework, taking care of the kids.
	They want to be devotional.
	Submit and submit to that.
	Just like, don't bother me.
	Let me make my money and you just take care of the kids.
	Why not paying for her?
	You know what I mean?
	That is like one of the most damning statements I've ever heard.
	So you guys know that's true.
	What?
	No, no, I'm not angry, but I just feel like a lot of women don't understand that.
	And they make mistakes.
	So you marriage.
	Wives are sex workers.
	That's why there's a lot of divorce in this country.
	And that's why.
	Did you say wars?
	Divorce.
	Max.
	A lot of war because of relationships.
	Fucking war, man.
	It's crazy.
	That's just my perspective.
	I'm not saying you have to agree with me.
	Wait, do you think wives are sex workers?
	Well, we didn't.
	No, that's a question for Daisy.
	I'm sorry.
	Sorry.
	Daisy, you basically said wives are sex workers.
	I'm not saying wives are sex workers.
	That's what you said.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Is that not what she said?
	I'm just saying that whether she is doing OnlyFans or whether she's a wife to somebody.
	Yeah, if she's a wife having sex with her husband, I don't think anybody has an issue with that.
	Legally, yes.
	Legally.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	So, Daisy, what I'm trying to say here.
	What's wrong with being a sex worker?
	No, there's plenty of things.
	The thing is, she's not a sex worker.
	You can't call somebody a sex worker when she's not.
	Who's not?
	Like, she's just OnlyFans content creator.
	Yeah, that's a sex worker.
	And that is legal in this country.
	That means that's not a sex worker.
	I'm not saying it's only posting pictures.
	Guys would like to buy the pictures.
	I don't think that's something you should be ashamed about, like, or shaming a girl about.
	Sure, let me ask you.
	Not call a girl sex worker.
	Well, hold on.
	A couple clarifications.
	I didn't claim it was illegal, but you can be a sex worker and being doing legal sex work.
	So, just to be clear, she has an OnlyFans and she posts nude photographs.
	That's sex work.
	She's not, I mean, some people.
	Is it my English or sex worker?
	Is it sex worker should be prostitution?
	Yeah, like it has to be sex workers.
	I think, like, you know, physically sex worker is like a really broad term.
	I've never heard about that before.
	Like, in any other country, that's why I'm not sure.
	She's an OF girl.
	She's an OF girl who puts out pornography.
	Describe pornography.
	Like, you know, girls in porn industry.
	I know a lot of girls in porn industry.
	Yeah.
	They just love doing that.
	They're passionate about that.
	They don't do anything besides that.
	They don't get a payment.
	They're going to see that or not.
	They're just a performance.
	But hold on.
	So the point I'm trying to make is she's talking about integrity.
	She's talking about emotional safety.
	She's talking about courtship.
	Courtship, we're going back to chivalry.
	Courtship is something that you do.
	You're a gentleman.
	She's a lady.
	No offense.
	A woman who does OnlyFans and is posting nude photos of herself is not a lady.
	Like, you don't deserve courtship.
	You want a guy to be a gentleman.
	You want a guy to be a provider.
	You want a guy to pay for the first date.
	Now, you can still get it because the Overton window is totally shifting.
	You can still, even if you're a prostitute, you can still get a guy to pay for first dates.
	100% happens all the time.
	Do you deserve it?
	No.
	Your opinion.
	It's not just, I don't think, well, I suppose it is my opinion.
	Yeah.
	But you want, like, you're saying, okay, the guy needs to be a gentleman.
	He has to do courtship.
	This is going back to what you bring to the table.
	You bring a negative thing to the table.
	You're doing sex work.
	That's negative in most men's eyes.
	Like, you think most men dealing with you, they prefer you being an online girlfriend, getting other dudes off?
	Actually, a lot of men are fine with that.
	Yeah, they're cucks.
	A lot.
	They're cucks.
	A lot.
	Any dude who's okay with his girl posting naked photos on the internet is a cuck.
	Point blank, period.
	It's a cuck.
	Well, in my eyes, if I'm going to date a man, he's going to be doing what I'm doing for myself and better.
	So personally, I wouldn't really want an OF if a guy was to come into my life and be a provider and a protector.
	But you got to do it.
	Like, there's no reason for me to do that at that point.
	But you're also monetizing something that's very sacred.
	And people do it for free.
	Divine just make your money in the time.
	No one else.
	Like wives do it for free.
	Or some people will go on a free.
	What for free?
	What do you mean, wives for free?
	Or like some girls will go on a date.
	What do wives do for free?
	They fuck their husbands?
	What?
	No, like people will go on a first date and like sleep with that person and get nothing like from them.
	Like girls will do that for free.
	Like the problem should be doing OF is battle.
	As opposed to like, okay, I don't want to get this away for free.
	She sleeps with me on the first date, though.
	She's cool.
	I'm fine with that.
	Look, here's the thing, right?
	Here's the thing: is that you listed, oh, the guy should be a provider, protector, courtship.
	Like, you're you doing OF, that's going to do nothing for his emotional safety.
	You, you talk about integrity.
	I'm sorry, like taking nude photos, putting them on the internet so like strange dudes can bust a nut to you and you do the girlfriend experience, right?
	That's even worse.
	That's not integrity.
	I don't see the problem.
	What do you mean you don't see the problem?
	I don't see the problem.
	Like, I personally, one, lived in Hawaii.
	I would live, like, I would, like, lay on the beach naked all day long, eat exotic fruit, and just, like, be in my element.
	Like, I'm naturally.
	And were men walking up to you and just like started jerking off and like busting a nut to you right on the beach?
	I mean, no, I don't, I don't, like, include myself in that part.
	I take the photos and like, that's it.
	The same photos of me laying on the sand in Hawaii that I would post on Instagram that I would write sacred captions to.
	Like, I now, instead of posting those on Instagram, post those on OF and get money for it.
	Yeah, that's cool.
	You're engaged in sex work, and most men are going to have a massive problem with that.
	You're lacking in integrity because you're doing OF.
	Where is the lack of integrity?
	And the fact that you do OF.
	Okay, but it's not a problem.
	Okay, can I ask you a question, Brian?
	Do you watch porn?
	Do you watch porn?
	Do you watch porn that really hold on?
	Do I watch porn?
	Do you ever watch porn?
	I'll answer your question in just a moment.
	I've donated $200.
	Top men don't even indulge this kind of garbage rationalization by listening to it.
	They don't date of girls and single moms.
	The top men have their pick of everybody, so you better learn how to cook.
	Top men have their pick of everybody.
	Who said we can't cook?
	We're the full package.
	Oh my gosh, she cooks so well.
	So well.
	She makes such yummy food.
	I mean, you haven't answered my question yet.
	I'm still wishing.
	Yeah, I've watched porn.
	Yeah, so what's wrong with being a woman, selling her pictures online?
	Wait, so your logic is if a man watches porn, he has to be okay dating a girl who fucks other men on camera?
	I don't see what the difference, because you're like emotionally cheating by watching porn.
	Do you?
	Well, actually, if I'm in a relationship with a girl, like, I don't watch porn.
	Unless it's like long distance or something.
	I'm saying if you're single.
	Yeah, if you're single and watching porn.
	Exactly, I'm single.
	Yeah, if you're single and watching porn.
	So I think still most men they do.
	Yeah, so.
	But why would that, why would that have just because a man watches porn doesn't mean he has to date a porn star?
	No, no, that's absolutely.
	He doesn't have to, but he also shouldn't.
	Like if I watch like thriller, like Miss.
	Wait, why can't he have an opinion?
	Like, he shouldn't be.
	Who here watches football?
	None of you play football.
	But you probably don't shoot.
	You watch football or something.
	He shouldn't be like, oh, you do.
	Why do we shame sex workers?
	It's the oldest job ever existing.
	There are even animals prostituting themselves.
	Penguins prostitute themselves for pedals.
	Prostitution is not the oldest profession, first of all.
	No, it is one of the first jobs ever.
	How about fishermen?
	I don't know.
	I don't know which one came first, but we can go that way.
	Also, who cares?
	It's like who comes for chicken or eggs?
	What does it matter if it's the oldest profession?
	Still, there's so much shame again.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, you know what else has been around for a really long time?
	Like, just back before there were laws and shit, like, a caveman would just go and murder another caveman or their entire family and then take the wife and essay her.
	Is that just because it happened a really long time ago and it was happening for a really long period of time?
	Does that mean it's okay?
	But you're now telling that killing should be fine against sex workers.
	What?
	How can you say that?
	How did you even get that from what I said?
	You said no.
	You said sex work has, it's the oldest profession.
	It's been going on for so long.
	Yeah.
	And then like absolute brutality back before like humans had laws and shit.
	Okay.
	Men, the big, strong man with the bigger club came and like killed all the men in this village and then took all the women and essayed them.
	Is that okay?
	It was an animal.
	No, that wasn't okay.
	But shaming somebody that shames is like, how about bikini models?
	They get paid going on the runway.
	Even top models are heavily naked during the runway.
	So in Miami, all these women are naked outside.
	Look, I'm not even making necessarily.
	I'm not going to say that women are doing that.
	I'm not even necessarily making a criticism about sex work.
	What I'm saying is, you guys are demanding, you're saying all these should, shoulds.
	Men should do this.
	Men should have integrity.
	Men should pay for first dates.
	Men should protect.
	Men should provide.
	Are you deserving of that?
	Like, as a woman, here's the thing, right?
	Y'all want all the traditional treatment.
	You're modern, you guys are modern women who want traditional men.
	I think if you want traditional treatment from men, you should be a traditional woman.
	What does that mean?
	How about this?
	Bare minimum.
	Don't be fucking other men on camera.
	I'm not saying that that's what you do.
	Maybe you do it.
	I don't know.
	Have you done BG content?
	What's BG content?
	Boy girl, pornography.
	Ah, okay, sorry.
	No, I don't do any like do OF where you're like chatting with dudes and getting them to like what's the like PC term?
	Fucking coom.
	You're getting these random dudes to coom and you're faking relationships with them and you're posting nude photos that are going to be out there forever.
	Your future husbands and your children are not going to appreciate that.
	Could be, but if you think about it, if a man goes and look for her, it means that he's fine with her lifestyle and he respects her.
	Yeah, sure.
	There are going to be men.
	Look, but does she want those men?
	That's the disconnect.
	Does she want those men?
	And is it inconceivable for y'all to know that a man wants sexual exclusivity?
	No, I would love to give that to a man.
	You guys are also taking an easy, easy out.
	I have a question.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	What do you mean?
	Go ahead.
	An easy out is we know that men get turned on and want to ejaculate.
	You're monetizing off of that.
	I haven't done anything like that.
	I am wanting the traditional treatment.
	And so when I come up against women like that, do you get it?
	What do you mean?
	Like the traditional treatments.
	My last relationship, he courted.
	Often, like every man.
	My 20s, I was no boundaries.
	That's what we're talking about here: women who have boundaries and women who don't have boundaries.
	Men are saying they feel safe with a woman who express, like, shows the world, I have boundaries with how I'm going to share my sexuality, how I'm going to share my body.
	No, no, no.
	I didn't know what you thought you were going to get going.
	I thought you were going to say it more.
	Oh.
	I guess what I don't understand is like many women, you've just completely forsaken and abandoned and cast aside all of this sort of traditional gender expectations and gender roles on your end, but then with the utmost entitlement, exhibit A, still expect men to adhere to our traditional gender roles.
	You want a guy to protect, you want a guy to provide, you want a guy to pay for everything, you want the courtship, chivalry, blah, blah, blah.
	If you want gentlemanly treatment, you have to be a lady.
	A woman who's producing pornographic content, you're not a lady.
	You don't deserve snow.
	I agree with you.
	But can you still get it?
	But here's the thing.
	You can still get it because there's a lot of, and you might even find like a really attractive guy.
	And a lot of these girls, even if they do porn, look, there's always some dude around the corner.
	You'll probably a lot of, like, there's a lot of cope from men.
	Like, oh, if she's done this, she's just tainted forever.
	And she's never.
	And I think there's a lot of simp guys that are going to overlook a whole bunch of bullshit.
	But if we're having a conversation about like what is deserved, I genuinely think it's kind of like a super untenable position for you to have an OF to be a sex worker and to say, I want a guy with integrity and I want a guy to court me and I want a guy to be a gentleman and pay for dates.
	Basic things, yeah.
	Basic things.
	You know what's basic?
	A woman not being a strumpet on the internet.
	A woman not having her nude photographs all over the internet.
	Why not be a waitress?
	Like, why not?
	That's...
	It's not feminine to me.
	And I think femininity is more important to me than like how a man like sees me.
	Yeah, the perception of daughters shouldn't touch you.
	I'm not like how some random guy in the future is going to perceive me from a time that we're going to be able to do that.
	Not necessarily together.
	Like if I come into our lives and we then meet from that point on, that's what matters from that point on.
	You think that, but so women, y'all care about a man's future.
	We care about a woman's past.
	So this idea that, oh, okay, like most guys are just not going to give a fuck, actually, a lot of men are going to care about your past.
	Unless you're just going to lie.
	Why?
	You focus a lot on the past.
	Talking about energies, if you are sleeping with men, I even think if you're enticing a man to look at you in that way by your actions, energy work, you're like inviting in that his energy into you.
	You sleep with men, you take on their energy.
	This is why men don't want a high body count is it's essentially the baggage.
	Can I ask you a question before I forget?
	I've been hungry.
	Sorry.
	Would you guys quit OnlyFans for like a man?
	Like if he was like, I want to settle down and marry you, I have the ring, but I don't want to because I'm not.
	The only reason why I'm doing that is because I don't have a man like that.
	And in my like, from what I can see, men are not like that anymore.
	So why would I go waitress a thousand hours and like sleep deprive myself and lose my feminine energy to like then hope that like a guy will accept me?
	So take the easy path.
	Take the easy path.
	It's not easy.
	It's feminine.
	Being a sex worker?
	What?
	Sexuality and sensuality.
	I like being a waitress as feminine.
	She's just saying she has multi-waitress.
	Yeah, with a monogamous partner, but just like having that out there on the internet and just like having a bunch of random dudes coom to you.
	Like that's not sensuality.
	That's just degeneracy.
	Well, it's for me in my experience and like however men see that or whatever they do with that is like up to them.
	Like I create content that I feel happy with that I'm comfortable with that are within my boundaries.
	So what if a girl sat here and says I do Bukaki gangbang content and I feel happy with I feel happy with that and men shouldn't judge me because I'm doing like I'm fucking like a hundred men on camera.
	I think that's different.
	How's it different?
	Because you're actually inviting that energy into your body and you're absorbing it and women naturally want to submit and like our hormones absorb and match with the man like the men that we're sleeping with.
	So if you're just sure I'll agree with you that there's scales to it.
	Like a girl who's doing gangbang content, that's probably different than a girl who's posting like solo nude content.
	But there is still the other component where you're like engaging in these like parasocial relationships with these men.
	Hold on, let me read your shit again.
	Yeah, you said you give the girlfriend experience.
	Yeah, you give the girlfriend experience.
	She said before the agency just like a PR way to attract action.
	That's a girlfriend experience.
	She's come on, you know what that means.
	I don't know.
	Girlfriend experience when you chincha to being very girlfriend, like behaving and talking to your chat, like your clients.
	You basically pay your act like that.
	They're girlfriends too.
	The whole occupation, it's literally to act and fake your love and companionship toward emotionally vulnerable men and exploit them.
	I don't think it's like a great building block to a like a healthy relationship.
	How can you fall in love with someone whose primary skill is faking affection and selling the dream and taking his money?
	I had a friend who she worked in the OF community and she worked at like an office for it for like this agency.
	And actually they have certain people who come into work every day who message these men.
	Like the girl doesn't actually do it.
	Like it's like a bunch of like random people who like text them and like they think that they're talking to the girl, but it's just literally someone who went into work.
	Do you do you think you think what you do is integris?
	Yes.
	So we didn't cat say it again.
	Do you think what you do is integris?
	Like integral, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	So are you are y'all okay with men playing with women's emotions?
	No.
	Playing?
	Playing with women's emotions.
	No, that's not okay.
	Are you okay with men playing with women's emotions?
	Is that valuable?
	Like a woman's beauty and like her sensuality is naturally valuable.
	Whatever men interpretate like that as or do with that, like that's on them.
	I just want to know if you're if you're cool with men playing with women's emotions.
	Like if a man knows that, because y'all love to use predatory and these kind of words, in the way that you exploit men by giving them the girlfriend experience and they're paying you to them, some of these men really believe that you're genuinely interested in them.
	They're paying you.
	I've had clients who've struggled with this.
	I had a client who spent, I want to say, 20K in a month for a woman that was the OnlyFans worker who he was carrying on a relationship with, and he believed that this woman really liked him because she was feeding him lies, telling them she wanted to see him and everything like this.
	And he was sending her money and he couldn't figure out if she was genuinely interested in him or not.
	Yeah.
	And I had to show him that this woman is extracting money out of you because she just wants your resources.
	So you think that's integral?
	I think if it's in a manipulative sense, like where she just generally doesn't care about him, or it's like she thinks like they're going to one day get married, but then like she really doesn't give a fuck about him.
	Like I think that's rude and harsh.
	Yeah.
	And I don't like condone that.
	But if a woman is saying, I'm naturally sensual, I'm naturally in tune with myself.
	In your OnlyFans, it says the perfect online girlfriend you've been dreaming of.
	I also didn't write that for the right, but this is even.
	Okay, so let me ask you a question.
	You hire somebody to murder for you.
	Did you end up, did you still like commit a crime?
	They're working towards what men want.
	Like, if I, when I was managing my own OF, like my bio was like divine, feminine, sacred, like sensuality.
	Men don't care about that.
	Men want girlfriend experience gonna make me whatever.
	So I wasn't making money prior.
	So you'll see the agency says we see what men want.
	You're naturally sensual and you're okay with your sexuality.
	We're going to merge the two for you.
	So you're willing to sacrifice your integrity for money.
	Integrity, how you have a third party on your behalf representing you in a way that you seem to not want to take accountability for.
	And this agency, this agency is going to be chatting with the guys, pretending that they're you.
	So that's a that's another fraud.
	They're going to be pretending they're you, but they're it's a guy who's actually talking to a dude.
	And I know on OF they have to pay for messages and whatnot.
	And then in addition to that, maybe this agency is going to try to sucker these men into some sort of parasocial relationship or even lead him on into thinking he's actually dating you because you say in your bio girlfriend experience or whatever.
	Perfect girlfriend experience.
	She didn't say I'm going to be your perfect online girlfriend.
	I'm sorry, that's a pretty strong representation that you're selling the girlfriend experience.
	And the reality is, whether it's you who wrote that or your agency, if your agency is your representative, like if Jeff Bezos has a PR person, has a publicist who puts something out, he can't just be like, oh, the public, it was the public.
	No, he hired somebody.
	That's how it works.
	You hire, you have a company.
	They're taking a percentage of the profit.
	Sure.
	It's on you.
	It's your account.
	Okay, what am I?
	What do I need to take account of?
	You can't just throw your hands.
	Oh, I'm just a girl.
	It's the agency.
	No.
	That's what the license flight says.
	I'm just a girl.
	Oh, my God.
	This red flags everywhere.
	I'm just a girl.
	You can't just throw your hands up and just totally revoke any sort of accountability.
	Yeah, absolve yourself of accountability.
	You can't just do it.
	My agency did this.
	About your client, absolutely.
	Like, I feel so sorry about what happened and that was really wrong what they did to him because that's fraud and they stole from him.
	But about her bio, she's not saying I'm going to be your girlfriend for a year.
	She's saying I'm selling you this experience.
	If you want to chat with me, I will be faking to be your girlfriend.
	So I don't see how misleading you are.
	That's not the implication.
	That's not the implication.
	And look, who knows what the messages that are being sent are?
	These men who are representing her could very well be like actually playing and being like, oh, we're going to meet one day.
	I don't know what they're fucking about.
	No, that's wrong.
	That's wrong to do.
	That absolutely is wrong.
	We don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's usually the men who chat with the men who are paying for it because they know what they want to hear.
	So it's usually men who chat.
	But look, ultimately, I want to bring it back kind of more to the central topic here is you want all these things in a guy, but like you want a guy to be traditional.
	You're not traditional.
	So accept the 50-50, accept the soy boy, accept the feminine man.
	I wouldn't.
	I mean, you don't have to, but it's just like interesting to me.
	You want your cake and to eat it too.
	Because I'm naturally sensual and there's a way to make money off of that now.
	Do you think that has anything to do with integrity?
	That women can actually be given value because they're naturally sensual.
	Like the reason why I think OF exists is because there's not direct monetary value on what women bring.
	Like it's just expected.
	Like if you were to calculate what a housewife does, it comes out to like $160,000 like a year.
	But it doesn't matter because they should do it out of love and they should do it out of care.
	They're like sacrificing.
	They're sacrificing.
	Yeah, so is the man, the man's sacrificing too.
	He's providing and he's receiving the woman within that time.
	Yeah, and she's receiving him.
	Yeah, she's receiving his provision, providing him.
	Yeah.
	I don't really think women are out there looking to get fucked.
	Like they don't really care about that.
	What do you mean receiving?
	Is that all that happens in a relationship?
	Is just fucking?
	Well, that's what you just said.
	I mean, I think there's more to it than just sex and money and fucking and chores.
	No, of course.
	Like their women are nourishing, but they don't put value on that.
	Like women are loving, but you can't put value on that.
	Women are sensual, but you don't put value on that.
	Okay, do you think you are, though?
	You're saying that a woman's sexuality has a dollar point to it.
	Like they don't value what women naturally bring, which is why there is the patriarchy.
	Like men make more money and they are directly given money for the value that they bring.
	Men also have worked very well.
	To be clear, there's a patriarchy.
	You don't think that having a child has value or is working hard?
	If you've had a child.
	Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	Or if you make it valuable if you have a child.
	Do you think that you provide value to a man as you are if you were to go into his life and like you do realize this like your point of like you do realize without a child just having a child?
	Yes, exactly.
	I don't see this objection to like that being viewed in that way.
	Because hold on, hold on, hold on.
	You don't think that's a good thing.
	You don't think that one of the most the biggest values that a woman could bring and what a lot of men want is a wife and children.
	Why is this like a massive value?
	And it's, by the way, the only way that the human species can continue is by women having children.
	Like, do you think, what do you think is more valuable, you being a boss babe and having like a makeup company or having children, having five kids, and then they have ten grandchildren, and then you're a grandma, and you've got a whole big happy family around you.
	Personally, the second one.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes.
	But women bring value.
	Have you told your parents about the sex work that you do?
	Yeah.
	Your dad, your mom?
	Yeah.
	They're cool with it.
	Your dad is cool with you doing OnlyFans.
	My dad will boop my ass.
	Your dad's cool about it.
	I don't have to talk, unfortunately.
	Your dad's cool about it.
	Yeah, he doesn't care.
	Like, he's happy that I'm taking care of myself.
	And I think I've been able to go farther in life and do more than that.
	Wait, how long have you been doing OF?
	A couple years.
	Was he accepting when you first revealed that you were?
	I was like adopted, so my biological dad, or like the dad that raised you.
	I have a question.
	But I'm someone who did do not luxurious-looking work.
	I bust tables.
	I waitressed.
	I stretched people out.
	And most people are going to view that.
	Most men are going to view that as way more respectable than like you having to be looked at as in a certain way, like in a man's eyes.
	I care about staying feminine and staying soft within my own energy and being able to take care of myself, make sure that I'm well maintained and enjoy doing that and like take vacations when I want or need and like and enjoy a comfortable, like soft, relaxed life in the long term for me, in the long term, like that's what matters to me, not like oh,
	she busted her ass from the times I didn't even know her and like I respect her like, like I want, like I want the guy that's like oh, I like that you wanted to stay soft and you wanted to stay.
	Femininity is also discernment and that's where I was saying so.
	Men work on the fights outside of themselves, the boundaries outside of themselves.
	That's the masculine.
	Women fight the inner battles.
	And what I'm trying to say is an easy thing you're doing is you see yourself as a beautiful woman, men are going to pay to see you naked.
	So to me, that's not using discernment, which is very feminine.
	They're naked and they'll still pay for it.
	And I don't see it easy to do what they do because I wouldn't be able, I wouldn't have the confidence, honestly.
	I don't know what to do.
	And what I can do is snap a photo.
	I don't even have social media.
	It doesn't take work.
	And it's not easy what they do.
	It's not easy to have the confidence.
	I have an Instagram and I'm going to go to the next step.
	Okay, hold on.
	You have a question?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, my question is for you, and I know that you love being in your feminine, and I respect that.
	Is there anything outside of OF that you dream of doing that also can keep you in your feminine central energy?
	Kind of like maybe being a dance teacher, something where you're, you know, is there anything else that you're passionate about that maybe you can see a way out of what you do?
	Because, for example, me, I have a lot of different career paths, a lot of different passions.
	Some of them are feminine, some of them are not.
	But, you know, even when I'm working in an oral surgery office, you know, I'm strapping down the patient for anesthesia in the most feminine way.
	Like, it doesn't take away from my femininity at all.
	Still have my nails done, still hooking up, you know, being myself.
	So I'm just wondering, like, there's such a big world out there.
	Femininity is not just how you look, though.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Is you're making it seem like this is what femininity is.
	You internally, I didn't say that.
	Well, okay.
	Now, comment.
	Maybe.
	That's a great question.
	I would say my femininity can come from internally or it can come from showing up to a makeup set and doing a client's makeup or doing my own makeup and feeling feminine and beautiful with that look and just expressing myself.
	So the question is: is there something else that I would do or enjoy?
	I mean, I coached women for six years, like my own business.
	I did that for six years.
	Sometimes I would have like 20K months, like sometimes even more.
	And I enjoy that.
	That was very feminine.
	I didn't see that as work.
	And then my main thing is actually UGC.
	I do like marketing videos for brands or for beauty brands or influencing videos.
	OF is just something that's like on the side.
	Wait, why would you, if you were making $20,000 a month, why would you ever start doing sex work?
	I didn't want to do that anymore.
	Why?
	Because I kind of like burnt.
	I kind of burnt myself out on it.
	Like I couldn't handle another conversation about like trauma work or healing.
	The cope is crazy.
	I'm going to come back to this in just a sec, but I'm going to let these chats.
	Michael Jones donated $200.
	If you want to have a family, you don't start dating a guy, then stop doing of.
	You stop doing of to find a high-value guy.
	Yeah, most guys are not going to be happy with you doing OF.
	That was going to be my next question to you.
	What's the question?
	What do you just essentially say?
	Why not stop beforehand?
	Yeah, why not stop beforehand?
	Because realistically, you said you want a guy that's going to come and say, oh, you know, I love the fact that you did X, Y, Z. He's going to look at it from a perception of positivity, I guess.
	How many guys do you think exist like that that you're going to like?
	Like, do you ultimately think you're going to end up in the type of relationship you want and a guy is going to accept that?
	That I like did modeling before him or something.
	Yeah.
	Like a masculine guy that you like, that you, the type of guy that you want, the traditional guy that you want that has integrity, that's going to court you, et cetera, et cetera.
	What do you think the odds are that you would stumble across a guy like that?
	Well, I've dated like high value men before and men that are very like religious or very conservative.
	And something that they've said to me is like whatever a woman does prior to me doesn't matter.
	Like she's out there in the world, she's single.
	And what matters to me because I'm dominant and because I'm masculine and because I personally genuinely feel that my influence is strong enough that when I do meet that girl, like I have the ability to mold and connect and like relate with her on like a soul level.
	And if that from that standpoint, like she still chooses to do that, or from that standpoint, she has toxic behavior, then yes, like you, you don't choose that girl.
	But just because someone does X, Y, and Z prior to you being able to even like have an influence, like it doesn't.
	I think a masculine man that I'm looking for can have an actual influence on me.
	So why didn't it work with any of these men that you dated that you just spoke of?
	You said you've dated many high value men.
	Personally, just like different things.
	Like I just feel like there's not emotional safety sometimes.
	They're not emotionally depthful.
	Everything you just said to me sounded like emotional depth.
	You said these guys are telling you, I want a woman, you know, I like the fact that this, that, and the third.
	That sounds like emotional depth.
	Sounds like they're understanding.
	So what was the issue with these high-value men that you dated that said they was basically cool with what you did and it wasn't focused on what you do before them?
	I mean different things for like different people.
	You just explained the emotional depth in the world.
	Yeah, emotional depth as like, I mean, I wouldn't say that that means they're emotionally depth.
	It means that they have like a level of maturity where they're not like insecure about something prior and they actually are confident within themselves to then mold and like you know impact a woman, but it doesn't mean that they just completely check off like emotional maturity.
	Okay, well what happened?
	Because that's a stepping stone.
	That's more than I could ever do personally.
	Like that person didn't have like a lot of relationship history.
	History.
	Didn't have a lot of relationship history?
	Yeah, like I would have been like their first like real like girlfriend and I didn't want that.
	Oh, it sounds like he was high value and never had a relationship.
	Yeah.
	It's just fucking a bunch of chicks, man.
	Let's just run them through them.
	Here, I got to read a couple chats.
	When you pray to have some quality, God doesn't give it to you.
	He gives you the opportunity to display that quality.
	Chair one.
	If your man wasn't masculine, did you ever give him the opportunity?
	Quick answer on this?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Michael Jones, for that.
	I know that came in a while ago.
	We also have a message from Black Panther Dev Soccer.
	Brian, big fan of the prank videos.
	Ethiopian girl, you seem interesting, even though you look tired, bored.
	I'm African too.
	BTW, I DM'd whatever on IG to connect us.
	Please don't show my account.
	Okay, no problem.
	No problem, buddy.
	I won't show your Instagram DM.
	Look, I guess I can only, I will only reiterate it one last time.
	I don't think I've really received an answer on this.
	I don't, sex work, posting to OF, however you want to categorize it, I don't think that this is traditional.
	No, it's not.
	So why do you want a traditional man?
	Or why do you feel you're just a modern way of women making money, yes?
	But why do you think you deserve then a traditional man?
	I've calculated myself and I've really understood that internally I am traditional.
	But you're not exuding that though.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Because it requires a man to come in and lead that and build the container for it in order for a woman to properly submit.
	But it's breaking trust on their end already.
	Yeah.
	How about this?
	His masculinity is conditional on you.
	So he's not going to be masculine.
	It's not masculine.
	Huh?
	It's not a leader and it's not masculine.
	Yeah, it's not feminine to be conditionally feminine.
	Oh, I'm a masculine boss babe and I got to wait for a guy to break me.
	What?
	Do you feel like a woman's more feminine when she's in a relationship or when she's single?
	I feel like she's feminine if she's feminine.
	But more feminine.
	I'm not saying is she feminine or not.
	I'm saying is she more feminine, single, or in a relationship?
	I reject the premise that you're either feminine, less feminine, or more feminine.
	A woman being feminine.
	If men are dating around and a woman is exuding true femininity, like self-worth, in my opinion, selling naked photos, there's an insecurity lying under that.
	It's going to hit its self-worth.
	I know there's women that you've said love it.
	They're okay with being porn stars.
	Being a woman, that's knocking at something.
	So I feel like there's a disconnect and men can pick up on that.
	There's some distrust happening because you're saying one thing, but you're doing another.
	I mean, I don't like take your opinion, but I hear you.
	Do you think you're a woman of integrity?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you want integrity in the man?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I'm confused, though.
	Do you think that being involved in sex work?
	So I Googled the definition of integrity.
	It says the quality of being honest, sincere, and having strong moral principles.
	Yes.
	Do you think that you don't think there's any sort of sexual immorality when it comes to being a sex worker?
	No, because I'm single.
	So me connecting with my sensuality is for me and myself.
	If a man came into my life, that's then for him.
	Wait, let me ask you a question.
	What do you think is sexually moral?
	Sexually moral?
	Like, do you think being a porn star is like sexually moral?
	I mean, I don't judge, because like I don't know how that could work for some people, but for me personally, no.
	Like, I don't think like that's sexually moral.
	Wait, so double negative, so it is sexually moral?
	No, it's not.
	I'm saying moral, not immoral.
	What are you saying?
	I think that being a porn star to me wouldn't be something that I wanted to do, or that would be integral.
	Because I know myself and I know that I.
	Yeah, you do OF though.
	But I'm not absorbing someone else's energy.
	Sure.
	But you're doing solo pornographic content.
	Modeling, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Are you nude?
	Like 99% of the time, no.
	Okay, but some of the time, yes.
	Like, how would you feel about a man doing naked photo shoots, though?
	What?
	If a man, if a masculine man's like, well, yes, I sell dick pics, how would you feel about that?
	I think that's a feminine thing.
	Oh, my God.
	This girl.
	Okay, all right.
	Yo, Clayton, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Clayton donated $200.
	Do you have different women on this cast, or do you change them out?
	We have different.
	I normally just listen to their crazy chatter.
	Kinda seems like everyone ones interchange level to the ones before.
	It's a good point, Clayon.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the TTS Clan.
	No, we have new people on panel.
	Okay, Christopher Murphy, chairman, get back in the crystal.
	You keep using the phrase energy to avoid accountability for your degenerate life choices.
	You don't deserve chivalry.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't think she's going to bite on it.
	I'm not really sure how to explain it, but yeah.
	Just let me ask you this.
	Do you think men who are not gentlemen deserve a lady?
	Do they deserve a woman who's a lady?
	I mean, perhaps, but will it keep her soft and will it keep her like a lady in the long term?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I guess there's your answer there.
	All right.
	I'm going to blast through the rest of the notes here because we can't linger too long on this.
	Let's see what else.
	I'm going to finish up your notes here really quick.
	So, wait.
	Oh, no.
	Hold on.
	The real gold niggas.
	You said in general that God needs to be the center of a relationship.
	The relationship can't just be self-fulfilling.
	It needs to have a bigger purpose besides just each person's needs.
	Are you religious?
	I've been going to church, but no, I didn't grow up religious.
	Are you Christian?
	My family was Christian.
	Which, I mean, when you go to church, what?
	Do you go to a Christian church?
	Yes.
	Is it Protestant, non-denominate?
	What denomination?
	I don't know.
	You just go to church and you.
	Is it Lutheran?
	Protestant?
	No, I don't even know the difference.
	Catholic.
	No, not Catholic.
	You just go to a church.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	God needs to be the center of a relationship.
	Which God?
	Jesus?
	What God are we talking about?
	No, not Jesus.
	I think now we're going into the definition of God.
	But I think God, like the purity and like the Creator, needs to be at the center of a relationship.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Do you believe in Satan?
	No.
	Satan.
	Oh, okay.
	You don't believe in Satan?
	No.
	But you believe in God?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	This next question wouldn't make sense then.
	All right, I'm just going to move on.
	Do you think God, how about this?
	Do you think God wants you to be doing porn?
	I think God made women naturally sensual.
	Answer the question, though.
	Do you think God?
	Sure.
	Fine.
	Do you think God wants you to be doing porn?
	I think the emphasis should be on men lusting as opposed to because that's like an actual sin versus like a woman just being sensual.
	Are you being serious?
	Fighting the hand.
	Wait, so.
	I'm not saying that, like, I'm saying like that should be the emphasis.
	If we're actually absolutely, men have put a demand on the market.
	Sure.
	Does God want you to do porn?
	If I'm like intentional with it and I'm connected to myself and I'm literally just in my sensual energy and I take pictures in that moment, then I don't see that like God would like look down upon that.
	You don't see anything wrong with eliciting the lust that you said men should control.
	If there was making money off of the fact that men lust.
	I don't think that anyways there wasn't a demand for it.
	There's just a demand for it.
	So the way that there's a demand is channeled the way that it's a demand.
	You keep a crack too, but does that mean you want to sell it?
	Wait, do you guys have to do it?
	Do you believe in sin?
	Yes.
	Okay, so like a component of adultery is like inducing into lust.
	So you are inducing men to lust, so you're sinning.
	It's already there.
	I'm naturally sensual.
	They take it the way that they do.
	I can't.
	Didn't you say that?
	Are you messing with the?
	I feel like she could control it, bro.
	She couldn't control it.
	I don't know.
	Didn't you mention something about purity?
	Yes, I think that sensuality is pure.
	You think believes this shit?
	She does.
	She's rationalized.
	She's risked it.
	She's not.
	She's rationalized it.
	You believe selling yourself for money indicates purity?
	I think sensuality has value.
	What kind of psychedelic drugs have you taken?
	I don't do that.
	Mushrooms, LSD.
	All right, I'm moving it on.
	God needs to be the center of a relationship.
	OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	Women lead standards, and if we all raise them, then men would have to meet us there as woman, women, women.
	We shouldn't go blindly into dating and know exactly what we want.
	Okay.
	Yeah, all right.
	Lead, women lead standards if we all raise them.
	I don't think the problem is women's standards are too high.
	I think right now, like having kids, like without like a two-parent household, like all of that comes from women not having like higher standards.
	If they required more from men, there would be less casual sex.
	There would be more that like the man would have to step up to the plate in order to like create the union.
	But I think standards are very low and casual sex is a thing.
	And that that is like the modern dating world.
	Where I'm getting confused is I appreciate what you're saying and I can be on board for that.
	Where it's conflicting for me though is what you're doing and you're also exuding a lot of sex.
	So it's like all these things, things sound great.
	And I honest to God, like I will own the mistakes I made in my past, but I am trying to do the things that you're saying to call in that sacred union, that sacred partnership.
	Yeah.
	But you're saying you're going to do what you're doing until that man steps in.
	I'm living from what you're saying.
	It may not.
	No, inside mic.
	But I do want to move things on quickly here because we have a lot to get to.
	Oh, okay.
	Here, I'm just going to finish your notes then.
	That a woman can't ever really be in her feminine energy fully without the right man to ease life and help turn off her brain.
	Okay.
	Women have been brainwashed to believe they exist for a man and pleasing him comes first.
	And it takes away the actual power of a woman because she's her most radiant and nurturing when her cup is filled with blank.
	I don't know if there was a rest to that.
	That woman had been brainwashed.
	Yeah, I think so.
	But her cup is filled with what?
	Or just her cup is filled in.
	Oh, cup is filled.
	Okay.
	I actually think it's the reverse.
	That when she's empty, she's no, I think it's men have been brainwashed to women always prioritize themselves.
	Well, I'm speaking as a woman, but yes, men have also been brainwashed.
	Okay, she agrees with me.
	Okay, cool.
	Love, you said love can't exist in survival mode.
	Okay, so like if a woman's anxious or some shit, if a man's not providing and protecting, there can't actually be love.
	You're too caught up in what you're going to pay for next and how you're going to survive.
	And I don't think that, I think, like you can't have love in that.
	Okay.
	You said men shouldn't pursue unless they have their life together.
	There shouldn't be woman playing Bob the Builder.
	It only hinders a man to feel enough and not go all in on his goals.
	It makes men lazy.
	Men shouldn't pursue.
	So like men shouldn't pursue unless they're like ready to be providers, kind of.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, unless they're like ready to like have a family and like take care or at least in a position to be there.
	So like broke guys shouldn't date?
	No.
	Okay.
	So like men of like a lower socioeconomic class shouldn't date or reproduce?
	I mean, why would they want to?
	Why would they want to bring a child into that?
	That's just a selfish reason.
	Because it's not a biological imperative, but some people just want to eat and get married and like that's it.
	But do you think like men who are like, let's say men.
	But there's still a possibility.
	And I think as a man, you should take responsibility as a provider and be like, even if that does happen, I want to be able to take it.
	Okay, so do you think a guy who makes less than 50K a year should he not reproduce?
	It's not that he shouldn't reproduce.
	It's like why would you.
	He shouldn't what?
	It's not that he shouldn't reproduce.
	He shouldn't what?
	Why would you want to bring a child into that?
	Under 50K a year?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I just don't know how you would.
	I mean, maybe some people do.
	Like, maybe if you're like on a farm.
	All over the world do it.
	If you're like in a like on a farmland or you're living more natural, then yeah, I'm sure that kind of thing.
	Okay, so you're just to be clear, your position is men of a certain socioeconomic class should not pursue women.
	And it's not about how much.
	It's if they're living, if they could provide for their living.
	Let's say they're going to within their means.
	Let's say he's going to struggle, but he still wants a family, a wife, and kids.
	Why would you want to bring children into that?
	Because what?
	Oh, my God.
	Why would you want to bring children into struggle?
	Life is struggle.
	My dad didn't become a breadwinner until I was about 10 years old.
	My parents did it together.
	My dad wasn't a breadwinner until I left the house.
	Yeah.
	I don't think, well, yeah, obviously, I can say I come from the same situation.
	But my personal belief is that I think if we had more men taking that serious and say, I'm going to live within my means, that we would have a better world.
	Women wouldn't struggle.
	They wouldn't feel like they have to work and they don't have time for their kids.
	And now people have trauma.
	You think it's men who's not living within their means?
	Because I don't know if you're a person.
	Don't pursue the woman you can't afford.
	If you choose a woman and then you guys can't live within your means, like you did that because you let it.
	Well, last time I checked, when you get in a relationship with a woman and it's the wrong woman, she wants everything.
	She's insatiable.
	She's the one who wants to live outside your means.
	A lot of times, guys are content with what they make in their jobs, in their careers.
	It's women that come along and make it exacerbate the situation.
	I need this.
	I need that.
	I want this.
	I want that.
	They live in their means.
	But, so, okay, guys who are making less than 50K a year, should they not have kids?
	If they can live within their means and they have a wife that lives within that means as well, or wants to live within that means as well.
	But, okay, should people of a certain socioeconomic class not reproduce?
	It's not about certain class.
	It's about can you live within your means?
	So then broke means nothing.
	It's just nebulous because it's relative.
	If you have this much bills and you make this much, you shouldn't recreate children into that environment.
	Okay, cool.
	You've just advocated for eugenics.
	For what?
	Eugenics.
	What is that?
	You're a eugenicist.
	What is that?
	Okay, I'm going to move it on.
	My personal belief.
	Do people do it all the time?
	There's thousands of situations like that.
	There's lots of homelessness.
	There's lots of people that go through so much trauma and then go into drugs and then whatever.
	You're only thinking about America.
	Think about the world.
	Okay, if they're living within their means, then yes.
	If that's how they live and they can live within their means, then yes, they can and should.
	All right.
	Next thing here, you said a woman is more than her physical body and body count.
	A woman is ever unfolding and it depends on my man at hand.
	If he gets her to bloom, gets her to bloom and unlock before him.
	What?
	I'll read it one more time.
	A woman is more than her physical body and body count.
	A woman is ever unfolding.
	And it depends on my man at hand if he gets her to bloom and unlock before him.
	Did you read David Detta?
	Do you know who that is?
	Oh.
	You talk like those books.
	Okay, we're going to open this up to the panel because we're now talking about body counts.
	Okay, a woman is more than her physical body and body count.
	I agree, but I also think men care about body count.
	So do you have a problem there?
	Actually, you do.
	In the questionnaire, you said, are men insecure for caring about the woman's body count?
	You said yes.
	Daisy, you said yes.
	Yes, do you think they're insecure?
	I think I talked about this the last time I was here.
	I think it depends.
	Like if you, if a man has a high body count and it expects a woman to not have a high body count, I think that shouldn't be a thing.
	But if a man, like, he's saving himself for marriage and he has a low body count or no body count and he expects that from a woman as well, I think that's valid.
	Okay, sure.
	Kind of a different thing.
	What do you think over there in the corner?
	Oh, body counts?
	Yeah, like do you think men do you think a man is insecure for caring about a woman's body count?
	I don't even understand why it became like a question to ask about your body count.
	Why don't you just meet the person, try to get to know her?
	Why do you need to know, oh, how many people have you slept with?
	Sure.
	What does it give me?
	What does it give you?
	No, one second.
	Like, you tell me, oh, I had sex with ex-ex woman.
	Okay, then.
	I'm sorry, is there a question?
	Like, how does that affect the current relationship?
	It's your life.
	You didn't do anything bad to me if you slept with other people.
	Oh, I can answer this super easy.
	Yeah.
	You did what you ought to do.
	You felt that you wanted to.
	Sure.
	I mean, if you're not giving me any kind of like sexual sickness while doing sex or stuff like that.
	It shows discipline.
	If a woman doesn't have a high body count, it shows she has discipline and she's just shaming.
	Shaming?
	I mean, why we do need shame?
	We do need shame.
	Just because society decided that we have to follow those rules for who and what.
	If you feel comfortable that you want to have sex with different people, good for you.
	Go for sex.
	There are problems.
	You shouldn't even think about, oh, how many people.
	It's his business or her business.
	Mind yours.
	Why do you care about that?
	No, we're going to talk all about that.
	Hunter, your position.
	Are men insecure for caring about a woman's body count?
	No.
	No?
	Okay, that's fine.
	So what we're going to do is we're going to go around the table.
	If body count really doesn't matter, it's not a big deal.
	What's your body count?
	I don't share that.
	Oh, but I thought it doesn't matter.
	Scooting to the table.
	You're too far from the mic.
	Go ahead.
	I wouldn't share that.
	Why?
	Because it doesn't matter.
	I don't think it does.
	Oh, okay.
	People are always looking for something to judge.
	And whether it's one or whether it's whatever number, like, I personally don't think it matters.
	But I thought you were a sensual woman.
	Uh-huh.
	So?
	That's just a manifestation of your sensuality.
	The numerous men that you've had sex with.
	I don't think I never said that.
	But it's just your sensuality.
	And I don't freely have sex with people.
	Oh, you charge them?
	No.
	Have you ever charged a guy for sex?
	No.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Well, you know what?
	Hold on.
	We're going to.
	Adriana.
	Adriana.
	Share the deets.
	Before you guys attack me.
	We won't attack you.
	There will be a lot of people.
	This isn't who I am as a person.
	Can you tilt your mic down a little bit?
	Yeah.
	This isn't who I am as a person anymore.
	I've grown.
	I've changed.
	I've gone to therapy.
	I've done some healing.
	I've seeked new religious beliefs.
	Sure.
	I've had my college phases and I've had my delusional phases.
	22, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I've made 95 mistakes.
	95 mistakes.
	Does anybody remember when I said earlier I was wondering what was wrong with you?
	And the commitment that you couldn't get.
	And you see what I'm saying?
	You just questioned it.
	So how does that, like, what makes me the problem?
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait, before it not necessarily makes you the problem, but I'll explain it after Brian says what he says.
	I'll get you in here in just a sec.
	Q.
	And wait, just so 22, and you said it's 95.
	Wait, will you scroll?
	Here, Damien, yeah, if you can get your phone.
	While she's getting her phone, she's got a list.
	She's going to scroll through the list.
	Body count?
	I think that's Daisy.
	That's private.
	Daisy.
	Okay.
	Body count.
	I had a conversation with my boyfriend before I came over here and he requested that I do not talk about anything like that.
	So I'm going to respect his wishes.
	I'm going to be answering.
	Who's going to badge up?
	Who's going to badge up?
	And say their body count.
	What about you?
	Okay.
	And I will own this, and this is where shame comes into play.
	Own it.
	Own it, girl.
	Go off, queen.
	Six were within commitment.
	Yeah.
	Because that's where I feel safest giving my body.
	I was also that woman who was loose with boundaries.
	And yes, there were four other men that I slept with.
	So my body count is 10.
	I hold personal shame with that because the men that I did not have commitment with and I slept with, I felt shitty after those sexual experiences.
	So this is.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you want to do a range, Daisy?
	I mean, why would we be shamed about like having sex?
	No, there's no shame.
	Yeah.
	There's no shame.
	What's wrong with having multiple people?
	I'm asking for a range.
	Or just men like that, women like that.
	Human beings like that.
	50 to 100, 20 to 30.
	What is it?
	More than zero.
	Give us a range.
	I think it's a couple hundred.
	Around a couple hundred.
	Yeah.
	See, no shame.
	I'm not shaming about that.
	I just feel like that's private.
	Why would I answer that?
	In the high hundreds or like the low hundreds?
	What do you mean, high hundreds?
	Like two or like a hundred to two hundred.
	I don't count twice.
	That's fine.
	No, that's fine.
	I don't look down on you.
	I want that to be.
	Nobody's looking down.
	Do you want to do range or no?
	Okay.
	Range?
	Give us a range.
	Come on.
	You've put your sensuality on a certain amount of men.
	I don't know where I'm going with this.
	Okay.
	Body count.
	It's under a thousand.
	Oh.
	It's a number.
	She's fucking both.
	999.
	18 years old.
	She got you beat.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Body count?
	Into the mic.
	Guys, guys, guys.
	I don't like the subject, so I would just not answer.
	I thought the past doesn't matter, though.
	Before you said the past doesn't matter, I believe that this conversation is very shaming.
	So I don't like to engage about it.
	Did I call anybody here a hub?
	When I first told Brian, I will be fair.
	When I first told Brian, because I told him off camera, and he was very Open, respectful, kind of very respectable about it.
	But I'm online with other people, and I don't feel comfortable to share these information.
	But just tell us the past matters.
	Just say the past matters, then.
	Say the past matters.
	Well, I am who I am thanks to my past, but that still doesn't define me who I was like last year.
	I'm completely different person from last year.
	Okay, Hunter, what about you?
	Negative two.
	I just want to share.
	I don't want to share.
	Range.
	Give us a range.
	Range.
	Yeah.
	10 to 20, something like that.
	I declined to share.
	I'm so sorry.
	Do you want to give a range, Italy?
	I don't want to participate in these questions.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	It seems like body count kind of matters if you're just unwilling to reveal it.
	I think that really doesn't matter.
	I don't think it should matter.
	I don't think Guy cares.
	Guy feels matters.
	Wait, hold on.
	Lift up your phone.
	Can they see?
	Can they?
	I don't think they can see the names.
	Turn your brightness down.
	Oh, you wrote down all your guys.
	I did that too.
	I did it for like.
	She's going to scroll through the list of names.
	Maybe we can't see that.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	No, it keeps scrolling.
	That's it.
	It ends right here.
	It's just like blank at the end.
	And you said 95?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you do it and then write it in there?
	Yeah, by the way, W for, I want to give you credit for the women who did share.
	Thank you for sharing.
	It takes a lot because it's something I've actually never really told anyone besides like my two best friends.
	And it's something that I'm like very insecure about.
	But, you know, it's just, it's not who I am anymore.
	I've grown from it.
	What we're trying to say is we felt shame being in that.
	And you guys are doing it.
	What happened to me is a lot of the situations I was in, it's like I used to think that this guy is only going to commit to me if I give something up.
	And I would give that up and then he would dip.
	And it was just like a constant cycle of like doing that and thinking that's all men wanted.
	Yeah.
	And I think that was a mistake on my behalf, but it also kind of fucked me up in a way because there were situations where guys, you know, they would try to pursue me in that way and then I would say no and then they would leave me because I would say no.
	So then I started saying yes more often and it was just like I could never win.
	So I just kind of did whatever at that point, you know?
	Couple questions.
	What?
	How many in a 24-hour period?
	Oh, I've never like done it more like in a 20, like more than one person in a 24-hour period.
	Not even that.
	72-hour period.
	I mean, I don't remember.
	Two weeks, a fortnight.
	Maybe two weeks.
	Fortnite.
	How many in a fortnight?
	What do you mean?
	That's two weeks.
	A fortnight is two weeks.
	I don't know.
	Maybe like one or two.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	It was never like.
	How old were you when you lost your virginity?
	13.
	Okay, nice.
	Cool, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Or not cool.
	I don't know.
	Not cool.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	It was a fucked up situation.
	What year, at what age was your craziest year for the bodies?
	I would say like 17, 18.
	High school.
	Okay, great.
	Yeah.
	In senior or junior year?
	Senior, yeah, senior or junior year.
	And it was like high school guys?
	Yeah, it was like everyone like in high school.
	Everyone in high school.
	Not everyone has.
	Everyone who I was with was either usually in high school or had like just graduated.
	Like, it was always like usually my age range.
	My age range.
	Was there a month that it just went down like crazy?
	You know, like crazy?
	I would definitely say when I first moved here a year ago.
	Oh.
	Honestly, ever since I moved here a year ago, it's been like down.
	Like I've just like down?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I thought it went up.
	Oh, how when it went up here to LA?
	No, when I came here to LA, it definitely went down a lot.
	Oh, but when I was in high school, it was where did you grow up in Boston?
	Oh, duh.
	That slipped my mind.
	Boston.
	Boston.
	It goes, it's cold in Boston.
	There's nothing else to do.
	All you can do is fuck.
	Exactly.
	You can sit in parking lots and sit around a fire.
	That's what we did all the time.
	Every weekend, you go sit in a random parking lot or you sit around parking.
	7-Eleven.
	Hang out.
	Yeah.
	But those parking lot seatings turned into a lot of things.
	So, you how many, like of all the bodies, like how many of them were in cars?
	I have to have a lot of people.
	Like, half the count.
	I don't know.
	Half of them.
	I mean, some of them I did it multiple times with them because I was like, sure, of course.
	Trying to actively seek a relationship with them, or I was in a relationship with them.
	Cool.
	Congrats.
	Proud of you.
	Thank you.
	Are you?
	Do you?
	Are you going to try to keep it under 100, though?
	Because we got four bodies.
	I would like my next body to be the last one, quite frankly.
	I really would.
	Like, I'm done.
	Like, I'm just, you know.
	I wish you luck.
	Thank you.
	I wish you luck.
	Thank you.
	Uh-oh.
	Claim donated $200.
	Number one has an IQ lower than those milkies that drop in 10 years.
	She's already used up.
	Get makeup and see her true self.
	Only one that has a brain is chair five.
	Oh, there you go.
	Rest of them compliment.
	Cannon fodder.
	Cannon fodder?
	What the hell?
	I don't know.
	What does that mean?
	What is cannon fodder?
	Oh, you want to draft them?
	I agree.
	We should draft women.
	We should send women to war.
	Thank you, Clayon.
	I appreciate it.
	Michael Jones says, I go to church.
	I don't know which one.
	Can you stop asking these questions?
	I don't have enough cognitive ability to keep deflecting like this.
	You want to respond to Michael Jones?
	I just started going to church.
	Do you want to look into this camera and give him a wink?
	That's good.
	Congrats.
	Good job.
	I'm proud of you.
	All right.
	Jeez.
	Body count.
	Okay, we did the body count thing.
	That was really good.
	I feel like I have more questions for you.
	Go for it.
	But maybe it'll come to me later, but I don't know.
	I think you've asked a couple when we first had this conversation that you didn't ask me today.
	Can I also point out she her vulnerability right now is super feminine?
	Like, and look at how they're responding to you.
	They're like curious.
	They're trying to comfort you.
	Like, this is the guy.
	Because when I first came on this podcast, I was very nervous about it because I thought I was just going to get attacked.
	And this is masculinity.
	And I appreciate the positivity and the comfort that you've all given me.
	We hung out last night.
	Oh, no.
	And we were at dinner, and she goes, I think I'm going to tell them I body count in the podcast where I was like, should I do it?
	And I was like, yeah, like, you should do it.
	Like, you open it on it.
	You open the knots.
	You know what?
	Did you know the body count?
	I did.
	You didn't?
	Yeah.
	We've known each other since we were 12.
	So she's seen me go through these.
	Damien, can you pull up the male version of her, though?
	The photo?
	Oh, do you want to see a picture of my dad?
	I'm okay.
	No, because I just want to.
	The gender swap for Adriana.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm good.
	I'm all right.
	Because.
	If you like. They put glasses on you.
	Literally, bro.
	This guy, do you think he could get a 95 body count?
	You know what I mean?
	Do you know what I mean?
	If you really put this mindset, I think about this shit sometimes.
	I'm like, would a girl's equivalent be able to?
	I just want to know why the head is so much smaller than the body.
	Because they had to remove the hair and the hair was already cutting a lot about like the fish.
	He's just got beefy shoulders.
	He fucks.
	That guy fucks.
	No, my guy fucks.
	Oh, you really.
	He fucks for sure.
	Wait, but okay, the body count thing, really quick.
	In QMU, one thing with you, you said the past doesn't matter, right?
	Past doesn't matter.
	I believe that we are who we are in the present thanks to the experiences we had in the past, but we are not supposed all the time to judge somebody just because this person did something in the past.
	Like, we should actually see the person how he's right now.
	We are meeting it, whoever he is, and see how it goes.
	Do you date every single guy who shows interest in you?
	No, why not?
	I mean, dating to me, when I was still single and looking for somebody, I had to be ready and actually emotionally able to try, open myself, let somebody know about my personality, my vulnerabilities, my insecurities.
	Okay, cool.
	There was a period of your life where you weren't ready to date when you were ready to date.
	Were there the men you rejected?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	And I also got rejected.
	Okay.
	But so I'm a little confused here.
	You didn't make judgments about these men.
	You clearly judged that they weren't a good match for you.
	And what was the criteria and the metrics by?
	If I want to have a relationship with somebody, I have to be emotionally connected, like the personality and how I feel.
	Like if I feel good with this person, like my boyfriend right now, Gabriele, he makes me feel so comfortable with this person.
	Boyfriend or girlfriend?
	Boyfriend.
	Gabriele.
	Oh, okay.
	It's Italian like that.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, Gabriele, Gabriele.
	Gabriele.
	Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	With the E at the end.
	Thank you.
	Sorry, I'm American.
	But he made, he makes me feel good.
	I feel comfortable with myself.
	Why do you judge these men who didn't make you feel good?
	I didn't judge them.
	You judged me.
	Oh, you judge them.
	You didn't date them.
	I spoke to them.
	I just finished the chapter.
	But I don't get it.
	Women are like...
	She was just talking.
	Women are known for being really picky.
	And I don't object to that, but women are really picky when it comes to men.
	Women are really picky when it comes to the men that they deal with.
	The men they date, the men they sleep with.
	Y'all are really picky.
	And you guys will turn down, reject men for a long list of different things.
	It can be how they look, it could be their personality, it could be their lack of money, resources, whatever it is.
	That's you judging the guy by default, because you're saying bad mate.
	Good mate, bad mate, potential mate.
	Good mate, man, bad mate.
	A man does it too.
	Yes, 100% right.
	We're not disputing that, but 100% right.
	Yeah, I guess that's where you like you want to use the word judgment.
	Yeah, then I judged.
	But honestly, if I like, I feel comfortable to talk to you, talk to you.
	I'm not feeling uncomfortable, so I'm quite okay to be here.
	If maybe I went on a date and this person wasn't making me feel really comfortable, yeah, then I judged him and I just said, hey, listen, I don't feel really that we connect that well, so thank you, and that's it.
	I'm not sure what I'm doing.
	But we accept that though, I don't have a problem with the fact that women judge because at the end of the day, it is mate selection.
	You're talking about somebody that you would potentially be pregnant by.
	So, of course, you have to be more careful and discerning and selective with who you let inside your pants.
	But I wanted to ask you, because you say past behavior doesn't matter, what do you think the best predictor of future behavior is?
	Hmm, this is a hard question, honestly.
	So who's more based on my relationship?
	What made me feel that Gabriele, it fit for me, is that every time I felt that there was some lacking in our relationship, we could have a communication and you would tell me how he felt, what made him feel uncomfortable about my behavior.
	And I'd say, hey, also, this one makes, doesn't make me feel good.
	Or this one I love when you do this.
	Communication, like trying to be in the same line so that I do not disrespect you.
	You do not disrespect me.
	No shaming, no judgment.
	It's just like trying to be as loving and accepting one another.
	I don't want to be like, oh, you did that.
	I know, but it then puts you like in a situation that there's something wrong with it.
	But maybe you didn't want to do that.
	I know, but I just want you to think about it really quickly.
	Think about what the best predictor of future behavior is.
	And I'll give you an example.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	We have credit scores, right?
	Yeah.
	We have transcripts, right?
	Transcripts.
	School transcripts, like your grades.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We have those things, right?
	So when you look at things like that, when people are evaluating if they should take a chance on you, we look at what you've been known to do, right?
	We look at behavioral patterns, your tendencies, right?
	So when you say you don't think body count should matter, what body count does is convey a pattern about your sexual behavior.
	It conveys a pattern about your sexual selectivity.
	It tells me as a guy that you're either really desperate, you don't have a very selective mind when it comes to the type of guys that you get with.
	And that makes me believe that you be more liable to cheat or you like essentially it will fuck up commitment.
	I wouldn't be able to carry a long-term relationship with you.
	And you have to understand this is from the male's perspective when he's evaluating if a woman has a high body count.
	And I will say the magnitude in which it does matter is very important because when you work with guys who are second-guessing their relationship, I had a client who was married for 30-something years and he had just found out that his wife had a promiscuous past.
	And she is the perfect wife in his eyes.
	But he was really conflicted when she revealed to him the guys that she slept with long before she met him.
	And he was contemplating divorce.
	That's how serious it was.
	And I had another client who was dating a girl in college and he found out where her body count was and it fucked with him to the point to where he didn't know if he wanted to continue dating her.
	Because one, it can be embarrassing as a guy to date a woman where every guy has had.
	That's it, like socially.
	You got the talent.
	I understand your point of view.
	This is the first time actually somebody's explaining it in a more psychological way.
	Right, right.
	Because usually on the internet, oh, what's her body count?
	Oh, she's a slot.
	She's that.
	It's very overwhelming when you see all this judgment online, mostly.
	But I understand your point of view, mostly like the psychological impact that will give to the person when this information comes.
	I have to be honest, me and my boyfriend had this conversation and we've been very honest about it.
	I have a higher body count than him.
	He always and always had really long relationships and he had just only two hookups.
	And then he met me because he's younger and I met him when he was 19.
	Okay.
	And we spent one year just as friends and then we actually developed feelings.
	But we accepted each other.
	But we started as just friends.
	It wasn't fuck bad.
	It's literally friends.
	Because I just, I was in Italy for Chinese New Year.
	COVID hit.
	I couldn't go back home.
	I was stuck there my whole life.
	Lost.
	And I was lonely because my friends were everywhere in continent except that city.
	Apart two people and my family.
	Thank God.
	He was a support to me.
	He was funny.
	He was caring.
	He understood.
	Even if he never traveled, literally never traveled, he was enough empath to me to understand what I was living when I wasn't even understanding.
	I was in depression.
	I didn't know that.
	Because it was so surreal to not be even able to exit and go to the supermarket.
	On, you know, those things that we took for granted.
	And I guess I am lucky because I met him in the right time and he accepted me.
	But yeah, I understand you guys by saying, hey, to us it's important to know this.
	Yeah, and that's all we're saying because a lot of women just overlook it.
	Because women essentially want to remain, they want to uphold their purity or their sense of.
	But I appreciate your actual point of view.
	I wish more people would actually, even online, express this body count needs to know, like in your way.
	Well, they don't know what they're doing.
	She just brought up holding a standard.
	And if women are just going around and sleeping with men, that's literally lowering the bar where men don't feel a need to court, to pursue.
	Yeah, true.
	So us women are literally creating our own demise.
	Yeah, and what's her name?
	Aaliyah said it earlier.
	She said when she said women have lowered the standards, but you can thank the sexual revolution, sexual liberation for that.
	Because if women believe that they can engage in casual sex, too, you're doing the guy a favor.
	Because if he sees that he doesn't have to commit to you in order to get it, in your instance, unfortunately, that's what we're going to do.
	Can I add to that?
	Like, would a man like rather me like, lie about that situation or just like be because like that's my past and that's nothing I can change, but like it doesn't reflect on like, how it would be in a relationship and who I am now.
	You know what I mean.
	Obviously, I was like young and naive and like I just thought the wrong way about life because of like honestly, because of my first body.
	I think that's what made me think the way.
	I thought like a guy will only love me if I give this up, and I'm not.
	I'm not saying like oh, like I'm sleeping around and I'm just being easy, but it's just like that's what I, that's what people made me thought at such a young age and that caused me to like fall into this hole of just like.
	Yeah sorry, I was just gonna say that the way you're vulnerably sharing it's really hard, because before I was very hesitant to share, because I was telling Brian like I feel like this is gonna affect my future relationships, like people aren't gonna value me or try to seek me like the way they did before.
	They knew that.
	You know what I mean.
	People are gonna treat me differently just because of something I did when I was fucked up in the head and like going through it.
	But like now that I've like learned and grown and gone through the emotions, gone through the waves, it's like now I'm a whole new person, a whole different person, and I'm still gonna get treated the like the person I was five, ten years ago.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, I mean that's.
	That's an unfortunate reality of life, because not everybody can empathize with what you went through or understand from a perspective to where they can overlook the fact that they may be turned off because that's just a visceral response, like even if you, even if you are a different person and you didn't do what you did in the past,
	If a guy has a natural visceral response to where, oh no, I'm turned off by that, it's the same thing as women who get icks from when you know men do certain things.
	It's just something that we can't control.
	It's an it's an evolutionary response.
	So it's just dating is not fair, and that's one of the ways in which dating isn't fair.
	So you make mistakes, and sometimes you can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle, and you have to accept the consequences that come with the mistakes that you made.
	And you can only hope that you'll find somebody who's more accommodating and more understanding of your situation.
	But that's why it goes to when you, as a woman, when you put yourself in a position to where you have diminished your sexual market value, you have diminished your mate value.
	You have to be more receptive and open to the opportunities that present themselves.
	I mean, I get it.
	I understand.
	I deal with this.
	Like, I work with a lot of female clients too.
	So this is.
	I also think she will.
	She's vulnerably expensive.
	That takes more confidence than what a lot has been going on here.
	And I think a man, the right man for her, will see this and feel connected to that.
	Because what I understand about feminine and masculinity, a man wants to connect to a woman's heart.
	She is showing her heart here.
	And I think that's going to bring more of a man that will be okay with this.
	By the way, she's showing her heart.
	Okay.
	Well, she'll be rejoining us.
	I guess last thing on this, I guess my question for you.
	So, because earlier you're saying, like, oh, there's this judgment, and that the past is the past.
	I guess my question, though, is: do you have an issue with guys?
	It's okay.
	Do you have an issue with guys who prefer to date women with a low body count?
	Like, do you think that that's a problem?
	No, that's an.
	I mean, that's like it's a preference, right?
	But it's their choice.
	How can I?
	I mean, if you like yellow, I like black.
	Well, I'm not judging you.
	That's your life.
	Those are your choices.
	I'm not here to tell you do or not do these.
	That's your choice.
	I'm not, I'm not responsible for that.
	Wait, did you guys say your body counts?
	Nope.
	We're just asking.
	You know what?
	Q will reveal his, if you reveal, if you reveal, and you reveal, everybody who didn't reveal, everybody who didn't reveal Q will reflect.
	No, we already proposed it.
	No, we already initiated.
	It's okay.
	We don't need to know why women were only asked in our nine under a million.
	But I mean, as we decided not to answer this question, you also obviously have the right to not answer the question.
	There's no problem at all.
	Yes, of course, of course.
	Um uh okay, so here we're gonna get.
	We got to try to blast through all the notes here because uh, there's quite a bit and uh, is there a chat?
	Here we got, we got a couple chats.
	Let me read those.
	Kevin Pot Myron Gain from FNF is on Twitter reporting the lady in pink to ice in C2.
	He said you're here illegally and you dated fresh from their show.
	Run girl there.
	They're coming.
	Are you.
	You've got like a visa, right?
	I'm legally here and I pay tax.
	Oh, do you have a green card?
	No, but I have my own company.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Clain says high body count means a perfect side chick.
	She has issues.
	Raise your hand if you have been a side chick.
	One, two, three, four.
	What's a side chick?
	Side chick.
	Like, is I admit what I said I was?
	And you said that must have been hard.
	So you're like the mistress.
	Like the I didn't know about it.
	No, no, I know.
	I remember that.
	Yes, essentially.
	Yeah, unfortunately, yes, when I discovered, it broke my heart.
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	You say, Aaliyah, these are your last few notes here.
	Romance was originally created by poor men in Renaissance time to manipulate women to be woman, your words, to be with them because prior it was about most suitable.
	Romance was created by poor men to manipulate women.
	Okay.
	Originally, it was who was most suitable provider protector, and then that meant that like the rest of the men couldn't get women, and then women are emotional creatures, so they learned to romance some and manipulate them to then.
	Here's the French.
	The French?
	Yeah.
	We, we.
	Okay.
	You said that men obsessed with younger, younger.
	Why did you put quotes on younger?
	Because it's not necessarily younger, but just like the idea of younger.
	The idea.
	Like more youthful looking or you said that men obsessed with younger woman.
	By the way, just I want to help you out here.
	I know the difference.
	I was typing.
	Women and women, woman plural, women singular.
	Okay.
	Or wait, hold on.
	One man?
	no woman, woman is, women is plural.
	Yes.
	Okay, whatever.
	Men obsessed with younger women is because they lack the depth to maintain sustainable women's unraveling long term because it requires them to do inner perceive, to do inner work, excuse me, mentally evolve.
	So instead they blame the woman and move on to something they perceive would be easier or less able to call them out.
	So you think men are intimidated by older women because the older women are not going to tolerate their bullshit.
	Yeah.
	And I don't know if this is actually the case, but or is it just that men just don't want to deal with an older woman's baggage?
	I mean, I think there's many different factors that go like into that, but a man is probably more attractive in part to like a younger woman because she's more willing to put up with much.
	He's not going to have to do like more account, more accountability or take a look at himself.
	Whereas a woman that knows what she wants and is really looking to like have a man be integral and do what he says he's going to do, like she'll be more on him for that.
	Why do you all assume men always want to take advantage of younger women?
	Well, I'm just saying like the topic of that.
	The topic of that.
	I don't think that's necessarily the case like all the time or that it means that, but is that the general rule that you set?
	I think overall men in general are attracted to younger women in part because mature women require them to take accountability for things.
	What's attraction?
	What level does attraction operate at?
	Like desire for.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So what do you think the desire is?
	To have like an easier life or to the desire is the desire is sexual.
	Not necessarily always.
	No, no, it's sexual necessarily.
	It's sexual.
	Not going to find a man who's attracted to a younger woman and sexual desire isn't the predominant desire that's there.
	Do you think it has something to do more with desire?
	Because you don't see the majority of men walking around with younger women.
	When we look at studies that show that men are attracted to younger women, they find them physically attractive.
	Of course.
	But I think subconsciously is more my point.
	That would be the attraction.
	subconsciously it's because they're more like willing to put up with stuff but it's like are they i I don't.
	That's not true.
	Where'd you get that from?
	I think in general.
	Where'd you get it from?
	Even my own experience, I was definitely way more willing to put up with stuff when I was younger than I am now.
	So you just believe that that's why men like younger women.
	And also, I don't know his name, Lauren Krenn.
	Lauren Kren.
	Yeah, Lauren Kren also says that.
	Who is that?
	Lauren Krenn.
	Who the fuck is that?
	Like, you know, Lauren Kney.
	I don't know who that is.
	Yeah.
	Who is Lauren?
	Who the fuck is Lauren Krenn?
	He's like.
	He?
	Yeah.
	It's a he?
	Yeah.
	L-O-R-I-N.
	Lauren Krenn.
	What's he saying?
	He says that men are more attracted to younger women because to stay with a woman over time, like it requires you to do consistent work and not just be comfortable and consistently show up.
	Whereas if you go for someone younger, they're less likely to do that.
	Who is he?
	I'm just a TikToker.
	He's on Instagram.
	He's written books.
	He's of the spiritual.
	Oh, yeah.
	That makes sense.
	Yeah, let's just discredit everything he says.
	But I'm just fucking.
	There's this Hitchens razor.
	Eh, whatever.
	That's relevant.
	So this guy on Instagram said some shit, so it must be true.
	And it sounded good to me because I'm a woman and it's spiritual and empowering and enlightening and lovely.
	Probably.
	He's like saying all this shit.
	He fucks the old women too, but like the young girls, he's just going after the woman.
	You should pull him up and read stuff before you speak.
	Well, actually, you should pull up the Bible before you.
	I'm like a god relationship with God.
	I'm halfway through the Bible.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, what's it say about being a sex worker?
	Yeah, to not allure men.
	Lust and adultery.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Okay, so you think men want younger women because younger women are like easier to manipulate?
	Is that kind of it?
	They're younger to easier to manipulate.
	I'm not even necessarily saying that they are.
	I'm saying that men probably think that way.
	And there's other reasons as to why they're attracted to like younger women.
	But I think in part, if you had to steal, do you know what the steel man is?
	Steelman now.
	So do you know what the straw man is?
	This is more common.
	So straw man would be basically like, let's say you're arguing with somebody, debating with somebody.
	And so a straw man would be you are going to forward like an inaccurate or just a wrong position that they hold.
	And you're going to like attack their position that you forwarded, which actually isn't their position.
	The steel man is the opposite of that.
	You're going to make the strongest arguments.
	You're going to present what the other person, their strongest arguments are.
	So if you had to steel man men wanting to date younger women, what would be like the arguments in favor of that?
	From a male brain, that they're younger, hotter, and fertile.
	Okay, fertility is part of it.
	Sure.
	But I'm not thinking like a they.
	Bigger picture.
	Deeper emotional.
	What are your pronouns?
	I'm just curious.
	She.
	You don't know they?
	Huh?
	Zur or anything?
	No.
	You don't see zurs?
	Okay.
	So I think the big thing, Q, and you talk about this quite a bit, is, so there's actually a biological and evolutionary basis for men's attraction to younger women.
	One, this comes down to fertility, and this is just biologically like the reality.
	And then, oh, well, I was going to go into like paternity uncertainty, but that's more of a body count argument, less than like an age thing.
	That's the obvious, but to also offer a different perspective and deeper perspective, I think that could be it.
	Yeah, but I mean, practical, in practical terms, I've never heard that or actually seen that.
	Like a guy's like, oh yeah, she's younger.
	I'm going to manipulate her.
	Like, I've never seen that happen.
	I've never heard a guy say that because that would be a conscious thing.
	That's why I said subconscious.
	May I ask a question?
	Yeah, subconscious means you aren't aware of it.
	So I don't think that's happening on a subconscious level.
	I said I think it is.
	Yeah, but I don't think it is.
	One thing before I have you come in.
	Couldn't you make an opposite, sort of like a reversal of this argument of men wanting younger women because they're easier to manipulate?
	Do you agree that younger women are just more desirable by men?
	Yes, from a male brain, yes.
	Not to say that like women who are in their late 20s, 30s, 40s.
	No, no, I don't think that, but I think from a male brain, yes.
	But like if in terms of the attention and attraction going from men towards women, I think we would agree that like younger women have the most optionality and they're receiving the most sexual attention, romantic attention from men.
	Because of younger women, so let's say that between the age of 20 to 25, because that age cohort, these women enjoy such an abundance of optionality and have so many choices, I think I can make the reverse argument that because of this, because they have so many options, they're harder to manipulate.
	Whereas a woman who's a bit older, who's like the biological clock is ticking and it's like, I got to have kids, I think she's much more susceptible to manipulation from a guy who wants a long-term relationship with her, selling her the dream.
	I'm going to be the one.
	I'm your future husband.
	I'm going to be the one who gives you kids.
	Whereas you tell a college girl, I want a future with you.
	They don't fucking care.
	They want to go party and fuck some frat dude.
	They don't care about, look, some college girls, don't get me wrong, a lot of college girls want a relationship, right?
	But they have such an abundance of options.
	Whereas like the woman who's 30, who's still single, who wants to have kids, wants a husband, time is ticking.
	She's low-hanging fruit.
	I think she's easier to manipulate than the 19-year-old who all the frat dudes want to fuck, who all the dudes want to fuck.
	NFL players in their DMs, NBA players in their DMs.
	Not if she's independent.
	And she's, not if she can afford a storyline style older woman.
	If she's independent.
	And she can afford a certain lifestyle she wants.
	I'm not talking about survival.
	I'm not talking about she can live forever and pay for her own shit.
	I'm talking have a family and have kids.
	some women don't want that but women who do want that if you're 19 you have a long period of time before you like actually like you're not really that rushed But a 30, 35 year old woman, time is ticking.
	Like, you gotta, something's gotta happen soon.
	So I think I can manipulate, not that I, I could manipulate that situation easier, I think.
	For arguments.
	I just sell the dream.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, I want to have kids with you.
	I want to get married.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	I can't use that.
	You think I can manipulate a 19-year-old and be like, I want to have babies with you?
	She's like, I don't fucking care.
	I want to go party and college, do college and blah, blah, blah.
	Like, they don't care.
	I can't manipulate her that way.
	This was my last relationship, actually.
	He fed me tough.
	Right?
	And you love that guy probably a lot.
	No, I had my hesitations, but because I want that life, I was going along with it.
	You want the kids, right?
	And he was.
	So we had kids, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I was filling in that role for him.
	So I was putting myself out there.
	And that's why it was very hurtful because I was switching into that mode.
	And then he switched it up on me saying he didn't want any more kids.
	So it is, there's manipulation happening on both ends.
	And that's what we're all talking about here.
	But we all have to hold ourselves accountable.
	Yeah.
	sorry q did you have something on this or oh no i was just well i was just going to end it by saying um when you talk about things that happen it has to work that's how it does That's how things go to happen.
	So from the biological perspective, the only reason that older men are attracted to younger women is simply because younger women look better and they're more fertile in their youth.
	There's no evidence that men want to manipulate younger women.
	That doesn't come to fruition.
	And as Brian just said, that shit don't work.
	So there's no evolutionary advantage happening there for a man to look at a younger woman and say, I think she's easier to manipulate.
	That's why I'm correcting you.
	Like scientifically, that's incorrect.
	People are not.
	But also what scientifically is incorrect.
	Wait, hold up.
	Because this kills me.
	Scientifically, it's incorrect.
	There's no evidence for it.
	So you can disagree all you want, but there's no evidence for it.
	All the evidence shows that men like younger women due to the fact that they're more fertile.
	It's biological.
	It's only biological.
	Able to be calculated.
	So yeah.
	But hold on.
	Can I ask my question?
	Do men care about having a woman they can have deep conversations with?
	And like, is this factored in at all?
	Like.
	Because we're keeping it on a purely sexual level and having children.
	But what about like the I want a best friend feeling?
	I want the person that I'm going to go against the world with.
	And that goes with like personality types matching up, being able to laugh together.
	There's a whole bunch of other stuff for now.
	Well, I think depth is more about intimacy in the form of conversation and being able to relate in terms of the relationship.
	Not necessarily like deep conversations where like I'm not going to have philosophical conversations with a woman in most cases.
	Like my girlfriend is very intelligent, but we don't really get deep on like philosophical things.
	We just understand each other and like we're more emotionally attuned.
	So in that sense, I guess you could say depth comes in the form of emotional attunement, which builds intimacy, which just makes us feel closer.
	And then when we have experiences together, having shared values, wanting to do the same things and enjoying those moments, I think that's more what we cultivate in terms of depth.
	But when like deep conversations, I mean, what are we really going to talk about?
	Yeah, I understand the sentiment, but about your beliefs.
	Yeah, yeah, but it doesn't actually play out like that.
	Why not?
	I mean, just because it's just like what most of the time we're just trying to relate to each other about what we like, not necessarily about what we talk about, but like just shared experiences, like doing things together and, you know, just saying how much we appreciate one another and things like that.
	Like the depth that we may feel for each other on a basis of love as opposed to like external stimuli, like what's going on in the world, current events.
	Oh, no, this just actually speaking about like general things.
	Yeah, a lot of people do.
	Knowledge in general, like I like it.
	Even my boyfriend really loves to talk about like he loves reading, a lot of reading, whatever.
	I gotta get it back on topic.
	I apologize to cut you off, but then we're gonna do that.
	You can't do that, but I'm not best friends.
	Best friends, we need to do that.
	Yeah.
	I guess final thing on this thing.
	So you think it's manipulation, but wouldn't you agree that like manipulation or even abuse can happen in like same age relationships?
	Yes.
	And could you envision a scenario where a same age relationship could be more abusive or more manipulative than a like age gap relationship?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So I mean this can occur at any age.
	I don't know if there's actually any evidence that age gap relationships have more or less controllingness or abusiveness or manipulation.
	I also think that the reality is like most 20 year old girls are just not going to be attracted to like the vast majority of 30 year old men.
	So it's kind of like, I don't know what kind of like it's not a given that a 30 year old guy can get any single 20 year old girl.
	So like if you just if you're incapable of getting like the majority of 20 year old women into relationships, like how how really good can you actually be if you're just blanket unattractive to the majority of this age cohort?
	How potent would your manipulation even be?
	So I think that's a component to it.
	But I guess I don't know.
	I think anyways, I have to move it on, but we have a couple chats come through.
	Let me let those through.
	Sorry, Clane, for the delay.
	We were just, I had to pause it while Q was talking.
	Thank you though, man.
	Clay donated.
	Thank you, Clane.
	Good men are attractive to intelligent women.
	This panel, except for five, has the IQ of a potato.
	That is not true only because of your body.
	What initiated World War I?
	What was the Cold War?
	Let's go around the table.
	What started World War I?
	Go ahead.
	No idea.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	No idea.
	Take a guess.
	Wild guess. Industrial.
	I don't know.
	Okay, Daisy, what started World War I?
	Daisy?
	World War I?
	No idea.
	It's not even.
	Okay, what started World War I?
	I could be so wrong, but was it like a nuclear bomb?
	It had to do with China.
	That's exactly it.
	No, wait, actually.
	That wasn't even the case for World War II, but go ahead.
	I don't know.
	Fighting over land or something.
	That was a war, though.
	That was definitely a war.
	Wait, oh, over land?
	Okay.
	What started World War I?
	Oh, great.
	My brain.
	I believe it had something to do with the Russian invasion of Spain.
	Of Poland?
	China.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	That's War II.
	Oh, boy.
	Ottoman Empire.
	I mean, it's... World War II Germany and all that.
	World War II was Nazis.
	That's the ones I remember.
	That's the only one I remember.
	Oh, that's the one you guys are.
	When was World War I?
	Or sorry, what was the first time?
	I need to be educated on this.
	I forgot.
	Oh, you forgot?
	Okay.
	You knew it at one point, though, right?
	Into the mic.
	It's closer, closer, closer.
	What started World War I?
	I have, like, for a moment.
	I really don't remember what started it.
	Don't fall asleep.
	Please.
	Don't fall asleep.
	Okay, what started World War I?
	Men love wars.
	World War I.
	I haven't Googled this, by the way, and I know the answer.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, World War I.
	I don't know.
	The mic's right there.
	World War I.
	I don't know what caused World War I.
	It was the assassination.
	I mean, there was a lot of boiling, boiling up.
	The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand by the Serbian Gavrillo Princip.
	I did not Google this.
	I didn't ever learn that.
	I did not Google this.
	That's just in my brain.
	No, I genuinely don't think I ever learned that.
	We're not the same.
	No, that was literally in my brain.
	That was my second guess.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was like, I don't think I actually was.
	Easier question.
	What was the decade of World War I starting with you?
	Go ahead.
	Don't nobody butt in.
	Go ahead.
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	Mike, Mike, Mike.
	1700.
	1700.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think it's earlier than that.
	Yeah.
	What?
	1600s?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Take a guess.
	Decade.
	Give us a decade.
	1550?
	Like King Henry VIII?
	I think that was the 14ths.
	I don't know.
	I really don't know.
	I'm back.
	Okay.
	Decade.
	Decade.
	1800s?
	1800s?
	Which decade of the 1800s?
	1890, 1880?
	Quick, quick, quick.
	I don't know.
	Take a guess.
	Which decade of the 1800s?
	I'm asking the person who fell asleep in history class.
	That's exactly what I'm asking you.
	What decade?
	Just guess.
	Just get wild guess.
	1850?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	1830s?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	The decade?
	The decade.
	1600.
	Okay.
	No.
	I forgot.
	No, you have to guess.
	Now you have to guess.
	Decade.
	1820.
	Okay, 1820s?
	19-something.
	19.
	Which decade?
	1930s, 1940s, 1950s?
	1930s.
	Okay.
	1738.
	Okay.
	Holy shit.
	These are the.
	I'm not going to.
	These are the worst answers I've ever heard.
	Claim.
	Thank you for asking that question.
	1914, 1918.
	Oh my God.
	Okay, I was close.
	That was my second guess.
	15.
	Y'all are in the city.
	I was just going to throw beasts on.
	Y'all are in the wrong century.
	Y'all are in the wrong century.
	That's crazy.
	When was World War II?
	So now that asked me any biology question, or not many of it?
	Around 60 years in between World War II.
	Think the time between the World War I was 60 years?
	Because you said 1914, right?
	1914 to 1918.
	Once I got that diploma, it went all the way.
	Do you think World War II was in the 70s?
	No, 1974?
	17, yeah.
	No?
	I don't even remember what year my parents were born.
	Yeah, like 1939 to 1945.
	Yes, it was during that period.
	But that wasn't 60 years.
	It was like.
	Okay, the end.
	So that it was like 30 years.
	Wait.
	No.
	Wait, hold on.
	You're losing me.
	I'm sorry, my math is for 20 years.
	I misspoke.
	See, no one knows.
	It's okay.
	We want to move faster.
	How does it matter?
	Okay, from the end.
	So from the end of the Roman Empire.
	The past doesn't matter.
	Let's kind of repeat it in the middle of the day.
	Sorry, but I misspoke.
	Women are that good at all about it.
	It matters in this case matters.
	Yes, for five.
	Intelligent men want to have conversations that are deeper.
	We actually love when they disagree.
	Nothing is better than a woman that can have an intelligent conversation.
	Bro.
	High value men love stress.
	Erroneous.
	I'm sorry.
	Erroneous.
	I disagree with the disagree part.
	No, I don't look, ladies.
	I don't think there's a man who would ever.
	When it comes to being submissive or agreeable, no man is like, hmm, this woman agrees with everything I say and she does everything I want.
	I want to go get some disagreeable, bitchy girl who's just arguing with me all the time.
	Yeah, but disagreeing doesn't have to be bitchy.
	Sure, I agree with that.
	Do you?
	It doesn't have to be a problem.
	That's like saying like purple is the best color, but we're disagreeing, but it's still color.
	No, but I'm saying, like, you can disagree on things and still kind of be like cool.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I have friends that we have like very different political values, but she's still my best friend, ride or die.
	Like, we're still cool.
	We never argue about it.
	We just.
	It's true.
	We don't talk about it.
	All right, we're going to blast through these notes.
	Let's get to Daisy moving on to Big D, Big Daisy in the house.
	Sorry, I don't know.
	I'm nervous.
	I don't really have all that much, but Daisy, really quick about fresh.
	Okay.
	Oh, God.
	We're not going to talk about it long.
	Were you even pregnant?
	I feel like that's very hurtful to even ask you to have to ask me that question.
	There's doubts.
	What doubts?
	Like, I have all the proven.
	I went to the doctor.
	More than five times.
	You got the smarchmorton.
	What?
	The abortion.
	I took a pill.
	You took the pill.
	Yes.
	Did you take it?
	And I don't think that's fair to even ask me a question like that.
	I would have never gone to public if I was never pregnant.
	I've always been easy.
	You're easy?
	Easy going.
	You're easy.
	Out, out, easy out.
	Okay, in and out.
	Outgoing?
	In and out.
	Like, I didn't, like, I was never.
	It's my favorite.
	I was never being aggressive in a relationship.
	And I was always the one to dump someone.
	But with him, I was new to the state.
	Like, everything's new for me here.
	Okay, so I don't, to be honest, I don't want to talk about him.
	But I do have something to share, like something new.
	Because I've already moved past after that.
	I have a brand new life.
	I love how I am.
	He actually reached me out.
	You're pregnant again?
	No, he reached me out on Valentine's Day.
	He was like.
	It's fake news.
	No, he's not screenshots.
	No.
	Actually, that's fine.
	I kind of wonder, like, I didn't reply.
	I wonder what he was doing.
	I got to come to his defense.
	He told, if I recall correctly, Fresh told me that.
	Hold on, I'm going to look at my text messages.
	I don't want to misquote him.
	He's like, Happy Valentine's Day.
	I'm like, are you kidding me?
	No, he says.
	He never spoke after that.
	He says he mistakenly texted you.
	Happy Valentine's Day.
	He lost the doctor and mistakenly texted her Happy Valentine's Day.
	He put her.
	It doesn't matter.
	His body doesn't.
	Like, he didn't fall down.
	He lost some hours.
	Like, his brain was.
	I will not let you slander.
	I will not let you slander my good friend Fresh.
	I will not stand.
	Okay, then.
	Fine.
	He says he mistakenly texted you.
	Happy Valentine's Day.
	Okay.
	And he says it's cap.
	He thought he was texting another baddie Asian Chinese girl.
	Like he couldn't see the picture in WhatsApp, right?
	Like when you open the chart and you don't see the prophetic picture.
	It's not a secret.
	No, he says it happened, but he said it was a he accidentally sent.
	He was sending that shit to somebody else.
	Wrong person.
	Yeah.
	Wrong person.
	Yeah.
	Did he follow up with a oh shit mother?
	Yeah, did he get it to the message to the wrong person?
	I love that he texted him because he was afraid of probably this shit was coming up.
	Coming out of the middle of the day.
	No, no, no, it was a mistake.
	I didn't do it on purpose.
	But I'm no, no, no.
	I wasn't here to talk about him.
	I wanted to talk about myself.
	Yeah, and that's why for the majority of the show, like I didn't bring it up.
	I just wanted to touch on it super quick because there are a couple other questions.
	Question though, during the whole pregnancy thing, were you seeing other people?
	I swear since I got to Barbados until he kicked me out of his place, I've never been with any other guy.
	So I don't know how I can explain this.
	I don't want to because there weren't multiple BBCs.
	Multiples?
	I don't know.
	I'm just asking.
	I don't know.
	Were there other guys?
	No.
	Why would you keep bringing the job?
	I don't know.
	I can't prove that.
	I don't know all the penises.
	I don't know about it.
	I'm just asking.
	I'm just asking.
	I can say I can promise Enlichi's wear to my life.
	She was calling me and telling me how much she was in love with him, that she thought that he was the man of her life, that she was so happy, everything was going well.
	She moved from China to the States because she thought he was the one.
	That's okay.
	We don't have to explain anything of that.
	Because that's the past.
	She was harming her.
	Okay.
	No, I don't want to feel that again, like that situation.
	I'm never going to put myself in that situation.
	I've grown actually.
	I'm very thankful because God closed the door for a reason that was never meant to be.
	I'm doing much better since I've left him.
	Wait, God closed the door?
	Like, closed the door.
	God opened.
	Because you didn't have an OnlyFans then.
	Yes, I did.
	Did God open the door to you starting on the door?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Everything happens for a reason.
	And this is the thing I want to do.
	And I love being taking pictures.
	And I love, I'm confident.
	I like the way I am.
	You know, I don't see any problem with that.
	Instead of making a man to love me, or.
	Do you believe in God?
	I believe in one God, I think.
	Do you believe in Satan?
	I believe in Puda and Pudism.
	But in Buddhism, is there a Satan?
	Okay, all right.
	All right, that's all I would look.
	That's all I wanted to ask.
	That's it.
	I told you.
	Five minutes, and then we'll go back to talking about body count.
	I don't know.
	Here, I have a couple chats coming through.
	Oh, it's Peanut.
	Here, I'll get here.
	Wait, first, Claim.
	Claim donated $200.
	Salute to Klaim.
	Brian, you misunderstood.
	If a woman has an understanding of substance, worthy of listening, I wish it happened more often.
	It normally does not.
	Now, ask the panel what the Cold War was.
	Please.
	Bro, I was like, okay, what was the Cold War?
	Please don't.
	I know.
	The Cold War was that with the bombs.
	With the bomb.
	Which bomb?
	The bomb, the nuclear bomb I was talking about.
	Oh, the Cold War.
	I mean, there was a nuclear component, but was there a bomb that was dead?
	It wiped out a whole city, right?
	You think about World War II.
	That was America.
	I did really bad in history.
	I'm not going to tell you.
	Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
	I did really bad in history.
	Like, I had to stay after school all the time for that.
	It's okay.
	The Cold War, like, they didn't use...
	It's called the Cold War.
	It was...
	It was the Cold War because it was really cold.
	No.
	And the Tennessee.
	And then it was during the Ice Age.
	No.
	That's when the Cold War was.
	There were no humans during the Ice Age.
	Yeah, there were.
	No, there wasn't.
	There were definitely humans.
	No, there wasn't.
	So was you.
	There wasn't.
	They clowned Dayfond now and then.
	It was just very tall.
	Not humans.
	50 degrees.
	Start wars with nuclear bombs.
	It was very cloudy in Southern California.
	They used clothes.
	So it was 50 degrees.
	We had to wear it.
	It was between the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit line.
	There it is.
	What's the Cold War, just because he, anybody?
	Cold War, what's the, you look like.
	That one was with Russia.
	I forgot.
	I think it was like North Korea and like Vietnam.
	100%.
	So a bomb.
	Well, I guess it was.
	It was a bomb.
	There was a bomb involved.
	What bomb?
	There was a bomb.
	I remember specifically the one thing I remember from history was this like nuclear bomb that like wiped out a whole city, but like even caught coaches surrounding it.
	No, if you keep on saying it, it's eventually going to be right.
	So you should mine.
	So there was one.
	Is that girl math?
	Oh, you know, the Cold War, they didn't use, like, weaponry or, like, guns or something.
	That's why it's called the Cold War, because they didn't use...
	Here, claim...
	How about this?
	Who were the two major belligerent countries?
	What does belligerent mean?
	Like aggressive.
	This side and this side.
	Who was fighting?
	With anyone.
	America.
	Yeah, okay.
	There you go.
	Yeah!
	Let's go.
	All right, we got something.
	We got something.
	Okay, we have Penith.
	Penith donated $199.50.
	Thank you, man.
	For the ladies who are on Omnivans, what would you do if the platform dissolved tomorrow?
	Would you be able to make enough money to maintain your current lifestyle?
	She would be doing tarot readings.
	She'd kill it.
	But she got burned out.
	She got so burned out.
	What does your intuition say you would be doing?
	I mean, I made money long before then for a while.
	I made money before then for a while.
	So what would you do?
	You can work at my maple syrup company before I go under.
	And then she goes bankrupt to find another job.
	All right.
	Let me see.
	I don't know if there were any other notes.
	Okay, we did.
	That was it for Daisy.
	Wait, questions for Hershah?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me see.
	Okay, we did a Leah, Adriana.
	What's up?
	Oh, you strongly believe that your ex did voodoo on you and he was talking to his ex the whole time we were together.
	So you got voodoo done on YouTube?
	I really, I genuinely think I got voodoo done, especially after the week I've just had, man.
	So I started talking to this guy.
	Everything was going great for like a few months.
	I don't even know.
	And then I went out to like some dance event that like had like a bar at and I'm just like chilling at the bar and some girl comes up to me and she was like, we're just gonna call him John.
	And she's like, Tucker.
	How do you know John?
	And I was like, John's a homebody.
	How do you know John?
	And long story short, we get to chit-chatting and she's saying like, oh, we've been talking and we're still talking, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So I called him, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
	Who is this girl?
	And then he fully convinced me that it's just his crazy ex and she hasn't left him alone forever, which I fully believe, but that obviously was not the case because then I talked to her again eventually and we had a longer talk and I learned a lot more about him and she told me some things about him with proof that he was into voodoo and black magic and he's from Liberia.
	Wait, is this the beach guy?
	Bro, beach guy took me to the airport and I never saw him.
	What's gone?
	He actually ghosted me.
	Weird.
	Damn.
	But whatever.
	Long story short, so we were on the beach and he was like, what are you ladies doing tonight?
	And then she was like, well, she's trying to find a ride to the airport.
	And then he brought me to the airport.
	And then it didn't really go anywhere from that.
	But yeah, so she told me he was into all kinds of black magic voodoo stuff, showed me some proof with like all kinds of proof.
	And yeah, I like staged, I just staged my whole apartment and just some funky stuff started happening.
	And I just think once I stopped talking to him, once I let me know when you're ready.
	Yeah, I'm ready.
	I'm ready.
	Once I stopped talking to him, I was like booking good jobs and, you know, like going through all kinds of amazing things.
	And then I went back to talking to him again.
	And then boom, life went to crap.
	Wow.
	Do you do counter voodoo?
	Do you know how to counter voodoo?
	Can you like take the black magic away?
	With a K, magic with a CK?
	I would just maybe write down return negative energy to center and like burn it.
	What?
	Wait, you can just write down return negative energy to center?
	What?
	It's like a bunch of people.
	Can we stop by the post office smartphone?
	Give my stamp.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	You said you almost slept with a guy until you found out the whole time you were at his house.
	He was on the phone with his girlfriend and you had no idea about it.
	I don't know if there's much to tell.
	Yeah, that's quite an interesting story.
	Give us the short version if you can just forget.
	Basically, long story short, you know, I was talking for a while, whatever.
	And he was like, come over.
	I was like, okay, sure.
	Like, whatever.
	We get to know each other.
	And then we were about to do it.
	Like, half of our clothes are off.
	And I hear this like rustling sound.
	So I'm like, what the fuck is that?
	And I look over and I look at his phone and it says baby girl with a heart and it's on a phone call on mute.
	And that's how I found out he had a girlfriend the whole time.
	Damn, that's that's rough.
	Yeah.
	That's rough.
	Final thing, you said last time you were on the podcast, there was another girl who said doing OnlyFans was basically the same thing as being a waitress.
	You strongly disagree with this for many reasons.
	You feel that was ignorant of her to say.
	Yeah, because as a waitress, like you're physically like running around on your feet.
	Like when I was a waitress, like I was getting back problems from being on my feet all day and getting food like all over me and being in the heat and running around, getting disrespect from customers.
	Like no matter what I was wearing, I could be wearing a hoodie at work and I would get, you're a slut, you're a whore.
	Like fuck you, because you didn't get my meal right.
	And it wasn't even me.
	It was the kitchen.
	So like I'm over here trying to like make a living, like an honest living and like just you know try to make it out here in LA.
	It's hard, especially in America now with whatever.
	That's a whole other situation.
	But yeah, I'm busting my butt over here and like trying to be modest.
	And it's just, it's not the same.
	It's like physically draining, mentally draining.
	It's hard work being a waitress.
	Okay.
	Going to apologies if I mispronounce a freita.
	Afrata.
	Afrata.
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh.
	What?
	In your bio.
	Oh my gosh.
	On Instagram, you say lover of Christ.
	Are you Christian?
	What denomination?
	Into the mic.
	Into the mic.
	Orthodox Christian.
	You're Orthodox?
	Yeah, Ethiopian Orthodox.
	Oh, interesting.
	Okay.
	Is there a difference between the Russian Orthodox and yours?
	It's just Ethiopian Orthodox is more like culturally focused on Ethiopian aspects.
	So Russian Orthodox is more Russian culture.
	So interesting.
	Okay, you said you were almost in a robbery scheme back in Houston when you were junior year of high school.
	Your guy friend is a scammer, but he only scams scammers.
	Okay.
	He wanted to plot a scheme on his op.
	Okay.
	Mind you, this guy he wanted to rob would bring bands of cash to school like 10k just to flex.
	The plan was to follow the guy on Instagram and DM him saying he was cute and go out somewhere secluded.
	Oh, so you would be the honeypot?
	Like you would DM the dude.
	Like you were the bait.
	That was the plot, yeah.
	Then have your guy friend and his guys pull up on him with guns and rob him.
	Your guyfriend wanted me to kind of hide his gun from him and fake crying shit.
	The payout would have been $5,000 to you if you did it, but you can't be doing illegal shit like that.
	And it was morally wrong, so I didn't do it.
	But I know this girl who did it to another guy, which was crazy as fuck.
	Hopefully I don't slip up and say any names.
	Oh, okay.
	So no one gets shot.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's really bad.
	They're like beefing it.
	Anyways, he was a great guy.
	He's a great guy.
	Yeah.
	No, he will.
	He always let you buy food or Starbucks on his credit card.
	Shout out to him if he sees this.
	You want to give him a shout out in the camera over there?
	Yeah, I can't say your name, but like, shout out to you, W guy.
	Okay.
	Also, you said, I don't know, I don't really have crazy dating stories, but your ex is a Marxist/slash communist that was trying to overthrow the government from the inside by becoming an influential political figure.
	I think he's still planning on that.
	I don't know.
	That was the one-year relationship or whatever you were talking about?
	Yeah.
	It was.
	Or wait.
	Let's see if it's a matter of time.
	That's why she's so quiet.
	She doesn't have a lot going on.
	Are you a Marxist?
	Not anymore.
	I'm more like capitalist now.
	Okay.
	Communist.
	Okay.
	That's crazy.
	Good for you, I guess.
	Okay.
	Oh, fucking.
	That was a no-show.
	I think the only things.
	Wait.
	Hunter?
	Oh, goddamn shit.
	Okay.
	Nicole, or wait.
	We did that.
	We already did yours.
	Okay.
	Hunter.
	Hunter, some of your most pleasant dates have been with a man who's above the age of 65 crying, laughing emoji phase.
	Into Mike.
	Go ahead.
	How did you meet him on the retirement home?
	Well, I met him at Nobu on my birthday, and he was actually there alone celebrating his mom's birthday.
	His mom is in another country.
	But yeah, I went on a few dates with him after.
	Great guy, lots of businesses.
	Doesn't you know, takes a helicopter to commute from his different offices.
	And he's just very sweet.
	I mean, he didn't want anything from me.
	So he came up to you or you came up to him?
	So me and my friend were sitting at the bar and we were having a few drinks and we were talking about an upcoming trip that we had to Palm Springs for her birthday because her birthday was like a week after mine.
	And then he just kind of butted in and started a conversation about the place that we were going to go for her birthday because he had been there.
	And I kept in touch with him and never did anything with him, but on my birthday, he sent me $500 just randomly out of an hour.
	Life on easy mode.
	And he's always traveling.
	And then I dated another guy who was a little older.
	That didn't really go anywhere.
	Wait, hold on.
	Did you meet him on one of these sugar sites?
	And this is just like your cover story?
	No, not at all.
	The second one I met through a mutual friend.
	Wait, really quick before you tell the story, I gotta let this happen.
	Claim donated $200.
	The Cold War was between USSR and the USA.
	Both created nuclear bombs, but this time it became mad.
	Mutual assured destruction.
	Russia threw some missiles in Cuba.
	They have pigs.
	So I was right about the bombs.
	Thank you for the clarification.
	Yeah, thank you, Quayne.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so you've dated a bunch of older guys, though.
	I've only dated two guys that were above the age of 65, and both experiences were very sweet and gentle.
	Yeah, you're a sugar baby, though, right?
	I mean, not exactly.
	I didn't take money on the business.
	Wait, hold on.
	But wait, you said they sent you.
	The first guy sent you 500?
	On my birthday, he was out of the country.
	That was not a gift.
	It was a birthday present.
	No, but you didn't have sex with either of them, right?
	Right.
	So you weren't dating them?
	Dating doesn't mean that you actually have to have sex.
	I mean, but if you don't have a romantic or sexual interest, like, did you have a romantic or sexual interest in them?
	The first guy, I thought he was very sweet and cute, but I didn't have a sexual interest for him.
	So then why would you date a guy you don't have a sexual interest in?
	Because well, they had very successful businesses, and I could kind of pick their brain and learn from them.
	Okay, so you're a prostitute?
	Basically, I mean, I'm just not.
	Well, you didn't sleep with them, but she was a businesswoman.
	She was networking.
	It's networking.
	It's a form of networking.
	My brother's also in the aviation industry, and this first guy owns a very big aviation company and multiple properties across, you know, the country and the world.
	So I just took the opportunity, you know, hey, I met him casually at the bar and didn't know that, you know, he flies helicopters with literally Indiana Jones, the guy whoever played Indiana Jones.
	And I just thought I agreed to have dinner with him after work another day.
	Okay.
	So.
	I don't know if it's like dating.
	I guess you can do it.
	Maybe it's a date for them.
	I don't know if they're trying to hit it.
	I mean, how many like dinners is?
	Was it just like the one dinner and done or like?
	I've been on a few dinners with both of them.
	But just like dinner, I'd say.
	Yeah, just dinner.
	Or it's like the old women trying to send me money and shit.
	They're out there.
	I'm buying her a cougar.
	She's a good one.
	$500.
	I love, like, you have blue eyes and you're white.
	Like, guys, trust me, in Asia, there are more famous, the guys who get paid to go on dates with women than the girls with guys.
	Whatever it takes.
	Asian women are paying white men for.
	Yeah, go and Google, search it.
	Most Korea.
	They're famous.
	They're really famous and they also allow to go on TV show to talk about their daily lives.
	It's not being tea den.
	I'll look into it.
	You said you've been on dates with crazy guys who pick you up in the G-Wagon with an open container of alcohol, marijuana sparked up, then he turns on the massage chair in the G-Wagon while we speed to eat sushi.
	Hold on.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	I. You did the same guy?
	I think we did.
	Is his name Vladimir?
	Oh, no.
	That was probably when we.
	He's donated $199.75.
	Whoever played Indiana Jones is crazy.
	Ha ha ha.
	He was dating her.
	She was not dating him.
	Well, I think she said the helicopter pilot.
	Oh, I thought he was going to ask us who played him.
	Harrison Ford.
	Oh, no, it wasn't Harrison Ford that I was dating.
	It was like his neighbor.
	Now they're like neighbors.
	They fly around them.
	Okay.
	No big deal.
	Okay, so the G-Wagon crazy guy picks you up in the G-Wagon, smoking weed, drinking alcohol.
	And then he turned on the massage chair.
	Okay, so I'll elaborate on that.
	Because I was out of the relationship I was getting to dating.
	This guy, Armenian Russian man, DM'd me on Instagram.
	His handle was like CEO of the Dobbs Auto, something.
	Yeah.
	So he picks me up immediately.
	Like, I smell marijuana.
	He's like drinking.
	I'm a little worried.
	We go to sushi.
	He's like driving crazily fast.
	Like, I'm kind of like looking behind my shoulder, making sure there's no police.
	And then we get to the restaurant.
	He's being super rude to the waiter.
	And then he wants me to back him up.
	Like, oh, didn't I order this?
	We didn't get it.
	And then I just wasn't there to like be rude to a waiter.
	That was complete turn off for me.
	So that was one of the rougher starts to the dating scene.
	Sure.
	Well, we're going to come back to your notes, but first I just want to get through a few things in the questionnaire.
	We're not going to be able to do everything.
	So going around the table, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	Minimum $250,000.
	$250,000?
	Ideal?
	No.
	But minimum.
	You don't have an ideal?
	Like, or how about a realistic ideal?
	Like, minimum is $250,000.
	Like, a million.
	Okay.
	A million a year, but minimum to date you is $250,000 a year.
	Okay.
	What about you, Daisy?
	Really depends where I live.
	If I live in New York, I think a million will be.
	$1 million a year?
	One million will be comfortable.
	What about you?
	Equal to or the same as me.
	Okay, Nicole, what about you?
	Not equal to the, sorry, equal to or more.
	Sorry.
	Nicole, what about you?
	The absolute minimum is $100K.
	What do you think, like, your future husband, how much do you think he's actually going to make, though?
	Oh, yeah, I don't know how much I think he's actually going to make, but I hope somewhere around the $250,000 to $3 mark.
	$250 to $300 mark.
	Because it sounded when you said, like, pair minimum, $100K.
	There's a bit of disdain in your voice.
	There's no disdain in this voice.
	It sounds how I talk.
	Did you catch it?
	That's just how she talks.
	I heard some disdain.
	I like it.
	I guess I'll settle for her.
	We're from Boston.
	We can come off that way.
	The absolute minimum is 100K.
	I answered your question.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Maybe I'm reading into it more.
	What about you?
	Now I feel like this is going to sound bad, but I am ready to be a wife and mother, so I would like to be retired by a man.
	I don't have a number on that.
	It's just I would like to take the role of creating the home.
	So you don't want to stop working?
	I'm exhausted of working, yes.
	Say that again.
	You're exhausted of working?
	To me, yes.
	I'm not a career type woman.
	So you want him to retire you?
	Correct.
	If I have his children, I wouldn't expect this of a mate.
	I'm not just trying to be a wife.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you know how many children you want?
	Two.
	Two.
	Okay.
	So enough to retire you.
	Do you want to stay in the area?
	No, I'm willing to move.
	Okay.
	I mean, it's probably six figures.
	I know.
	That's.
	I do feel bad.
	I'd be willing to work again.
	But that's more like looking for a dog.
	Question.
	Would you, though, like, would, well, you said minimum yearly income.
	What if.
	Oh, I lived off $30,000 a year in California.
	I can pinch Penny.
	But what if he's like, you need to keep working?
	Would you date that man or not?
	Yeah, no, no, no, yeah.
	I thought we were just saying dream scenario.
	Yeah.
	Well, it was more so minimum yearly income to be your future husband.
	What I'm currently working would be just fine.
	Yeah, I'm at 80K.
	So he.
	It would be nice if he made 100.
	$250,000.
	What about you?
	More than what I would make as an anesthesiologist.
	Wait.
	After I go to med school?
	Don't they make like 300K?
	Even more sometimes?
	They make anesthesiologists.
	Make a lot.
	Okay, what about you?
	I don't care about the money.
	Who wrote 250K here?
	I just replied the first.
	Okay, but you don't care about money?
	How much does your boyfriend make?
	I make more than him at the moment.
	I hope that his new business will go well, but honestly, I'm really comfortable with him as his persona.
	Would you date a guy who worked at McDonald's?
	I mean, what's the shame about having a job?
	He's trying his best, and if you couldn't find any other job, why would we shame somebody at McDonald's?
	Hunter?
	I would say anywhere over $250,000 to $300K minimum, just because I have dated doctors and I'm in the medical field.
	You have dated doctors?
	Yes, I have.
	Who else?
	Have you dated lawyers?
	Anything else?
	Dated a lawyer.
	Okay.
	When you say you dated a doctor, were you in a long-term relationship with him?
	No.
	I would say I dated him and I realized I wasn't aligned with his values and then we became friends again.
	What were his values?
	I would say he wasn't looking to settle down.
	Okay, so he just wanted to.
	Okay.
	You dated a doctor.
	Now all your future guys have to meet the threshold of the salary of a doctor, but the doctor didn't want a relationship with you.
	He just wanted the fuck.
	So $250,000 is the minimum yearly income.
	I'm just confused, though.
	Why?
	Because you've dated doctor, like so?
	I think I just like people who are in the medical field.
	I'm not sure.
	Well, it doesn't have to be a doctor, but you said minimum yearly income, $250,000 a year.
	Yeah, I think that's what you need to live comfortable in, like the area that I. What area are you in?
	Are you in LA?
	Well, I work in Laguna Hills, so I spend majority of my time there.
	I live about 20 minutes away from there.
	And what do you want to do for work again?
	What do I want to do for work?
	I am an oral surgery assistant.
	Okay.
	How much do you get paid for that?
	I don't want to disclose that.
	I mean, but this is like, we can look up on Glassdoor how much the average salary is for this, because it's like a job that you could see this, like the average income for California on the internet.
	Are you making six figures a month?
	Or sorry, six figures a year doing that?
	No, but I have other sources of income.
	Such as?
	Social media management.
	Okay.
	Do you manage OF girls?
	No, I do not.
	I manage social media for an actress and also a non-profit.
	So I have two clients right now.
	Okay.
	$250,000 a year, though.
	So $250K, a million.
	i think you said it doesn't matter nicole you said oh wait who said 100k Hold on.
	No.
	I did.
	Nicole said $100K.
	Lindsay, enough to retire you.
	That's six figures.
	Okay, and then $250K.
	I think you guys have a little bit of unreasonable expectations when it comes to men's income.
	What?
	I don't care.
	Yeah, those of you who don't care, you don't care.
	I don't care.
	As long as it's the same or more than me.
	$250K, the OF girl wants $250K.
	You want $100,000, $1 mil, $250K over here.
	You guys realize that you are chasing after the apex of men.
	But I'm not chasing.
	If it happens, you're getting stuck on the word I just used.
	You want the millionaire.
	You want the guy who makes $250K.
	You want the guy who makes $250,000.
	I think it's realistic.
	Do they want you?
	Yes.
	Where's the ring?
	Where's the commitment?
	Well, maybe you didn't ask me if I want to.
	That's my response.
	I just haven't.
	That is my response to you guys with your responsibility.
	Don't you think maybe some ladies are singles by choice?
	It is definitely by choice.
	I friend zoned a lot of men.
	By choice.
	Doctor being one of them.
	You friend zoned the doctor.
	If we can make almost half of the money.
	$200.
	Is Jet 5 single?
	$250.
	Oh!
	Single?
	No kidding.
	Oh.
	Claim.
	Wow, he likes you.
	Okay, there you go.
	Sorry, go ahead, Daisy.
	I'm just saying, I feel like you should definitely set standards.
	Can you just put that off the table?
	You should definitely set a standard based on your income.
	Let's say if I make half a million per year, my expectation of my partner can be a million.
	He has to make double at least.
	So I don't see that why it doesn't make sense.
	Okay.
	You know what I mean?
	You guys are so unrealistic.
	You're all deserted.
	That just environment you are.
	If you are surrounded by those type of people, there will be a lot of chances.
	And you have to manifest that before can have it.
	If you don't even think about that, a lot of women, they'll just settle down for nothing.
	Why don't average women want average men?
	Average men.
	I'm not an average woman.
	What is an average income?
	I am not an average person.
	What's your definition of an income?
	Ask that for average woman.
	Average income.
	Y'all want, you want a guy who makes 250K.
	250K, a million.
	100,000.
	Retire you.
	It's pretty obtainable.
	Damn, you guys are overlooking so many.
	What is it?
	A guy who makes, is it 10% of men make over $100,000 or something like that?
	You're ignoring like 90%.
	I don't know the exact numbers on it.
	Or is it 10%?
	Is it 450,000?
	Or no, 450,000 and up is 1%, I think, right?
	My brain is melting with all the stuff.
	You ask me.
	You guys are just disregarding vast amounts of men, average good men, because you want this number.
	250K?
	Why are you so upset about it?
	Let us live in our little delusion if we want to.
	All right, fine.
	Be unhappy.
	That's just like we are low standards.
	That doesn't mean we don't go out with men that makes less than that.
	That's just our expectations.
	I think there's nothing wrong to have a yes, there is.
	There is.
	I will.
	I go out with men who doesn't make no money.
	You got to live in reality.
	You know, they bring other values.
	You know what I mean?
	Listen, I try to live in reality.
	Look where that got me.
	Is it okay for a man who meets y'all income threshold to ask y'all what y'all bring to the table?
	Sorry.
	Like, if you meet a millionaire, and is it okay for him to ask you what you bring to the table?
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	It's okay for him to ask you.
	If he.
	If he's providing.
	Yeah, depend what he will bring to the table.
	He's a millionaire.
	Yeah, but if he's a millionaire, he doesn't spend no coins.
	He could be a millionaire.
	I don't care.
	He's a millionaire.
	You can be a judge.
	You say, you say, I want a millionaire.
	I'm a millionaire.
	I come and ask you what you bring to the table.
	What you mean?
	What do I bring to the table?
	Well, I have more experience than other women.
	I'm smart.
	I'm good looking.
	Even I'm good at socialize.
	If he has business, dinner, he can bring me anywhere.
	Like, I'll be like the finest lady.
	And I think that's also one of the value.
	And also, because I'm also smart, I'm good at investing.
	I can share my ideas and also helping each other to grow.
	It's not just like.
	Aliyah, what about you?
	Aliyah, what about you?
	He can ask you what you bring to the table.
	Why?
	Yeah, what do you bring to the table?
	Why do you deserve a guy who makes $250,000 a year?
	I don't care to answer that question.
	Oh, my God.
	If you're asking me, what are my good qualities?
	And what do I like about myself?
	And what would a guy like about me?
	That's different.
	$250,000 a year, like OnlyFans, single mom.
	But that's not a lot.
	Maybe she can make that.
	You know, it's like, what is the guy who makes $250K?
	Does he want to date a single mom who does OnlyFans?
	I don't know.
	But she's pretty.
	They've dated plenty of men that make more.
	They believe that you just have to be pretty.
	That's what I think.
	Men care about physical beauty, but there's other factors at play.
	Everyone has its own necessities on a partner.
	I mean, there's the one who wants the beauty and there's the one who wants the brain.
	Here, let me ask you guys: if I said that I only wanted to date a girl who makes $10 million, do you think that, like, you might say it's okay for you to want that, Brian, but do you think it's likely or probable that I'm going to get a girl who makes $10 million?
	Yes, why would we wish it for you?
	Why would we care?
	What you got to understand is it's just sheer numbers.
	It's probability.
	If there's only a certain amount of people that make that much money, it's just, regardless of how cool I am, it's just a matter of, there's just not a lot.
	Like, that's hard to find.
	There's a lot of effort.
	Go get them, Tiger.
	I mean, where's the matter?
	Okay, how about this?
	First, you got to get off.
	You guys think I can get anything?
	Well, I mean, Ariana.
	Honestly, why not?
	He's made really good.
	I like her though.
	She kind of likes that.
	He'd have to win as well.
	So you never know.
	All right, fuck.
	You just have to go.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	Get to know her assistant.
	But there's some beautiful woman who have dated some really young, questionable, venomous man.
	How about this?
	I want to date, I don't know, what's some delusional shit I could say?
	I want to date, I'm not a black man, but I want to date her, right?
	Is that delusional?
	Do you think it's delusional?
	No.
	You think I.
	No.
	I mean, she's young, young.
	She's young.
	She's pretty.
	She's adult.
	She's really smart.
	She doesn't.
	She's a school.
	Like, why not?
	Okay.
	Technically, I am African American, by the way.
	Just letting you know.
	Because my dad was born in Africa.
	My mom was born in America.
	Technically, technically, I'm African-American.
	Okay, you can tell your parents that, I guess, I don't know, whatever.
	But, you know, don't you think, like, if I'm trying to, you know, you know what I mean?
	No, they don't have any fucking idea.
	All right.
	It's just crazy, man.
	Where he knows you.
	Okay, hold on, hold on.
	You're saying it's okay to have those wants, but like you're saying, it's very unrealistic.
	Because for me, why I say I want someone who makes as the same or more than me is because I know it's very hard to find someone who's going to have a lot more than me.
	Well, I don't have a problem with your answer.
	I know what sense of purpose, though.
	Like, to me, it's just more that a man has drive.
	Like, he has.
	See, that's my thing: if a guy has a job and he's working hard for something, I'm cool with whatever he makes.
	Yeah.
	But Clay donated $200.
	No, we do not want you.
	Chair one to four.
	High value men do not want you.
	I will knock it out for a night.
	You have nothing to add.
	I am bored.
	Sending money to Brian calls I am bored.
	You are useless.
	Wow.
	If you're bored, then stop watching.
	Yo, Clay, thank you for the TTI.
	We don't want you either.
	Here's what he says.
	Like I was trying to say, like, if a guy has a crap ton of money, but it's because he inherited it from his parents, I'm going to go more for the guy who has an average amount of money and works hard for it than the one who just does nothing all day and sits on the couch all day and just has the money.
	I want a harem of a hundred virgins.
	Is that realistic?
	It's obtainable.
	I know.
	I mean, you could probably find it.
	Anything is possible.
	Do you think I can find a harem?
	Have a harem.
	So all hundred of these virgin women have to be cool with me, fucking the other verd.
	Like the other women.
	You think they're going to be okay with that?
	It happens in India a lot.
	Not just that.
	In India.
	I ain't going to India for no fucking harem.
	Why not?
	You can make out without white attendant on your way there.
	There's a will, there's a wedge.
	And sometimes I'll date Eritrean and Ethiopian.
	They invented a surgery to make a woman again virgin.
	Oh my God.
	Did you know that?
	And it's been for years.
	Wow.
	You didn't know that.
	That first off.
	They started it because in Middle East.
	You can't surgically become a virgin.
	Please.
	Go search.
	Yes, that's a good idea.
	You make the pussy title.
	It makes again.
	Inside it.
	I don't know how to say the word in English.
	The hymen.
	The labia.
	The hymen.
	The hymen.
	Just hymen.
	Yeah.
	She ain't a virgin.
	She's not tied to the pussy.
	Hold on.
	A girl who's fucked a bunch of dudes can have a tight pussy.
	But I'm not talking about the pussy title.
	I'm talking about.
	I don't say that shit in Italian.
	So virginity.
	Virginity.
	It's when you have cola pellicola.
	Like, put a little bit.
	What's called it?
	The hymen.
	I'd live.
	So you have to break it, right?
	And then you're not going to be able to do it.
	Hold on, just to be clear.
	Virgin women cannot, like, they could not be.
	They could be broken if there's a human.
	Because I don't like.
	That's what you're talking about.
	That's what you're talking about.
	The one you said, you have to say, bro, hold on.
	Just to be clear, a woman could be a virgin and not have a hymen.
	You do realize this, right?
	What do you mean?
	The thing you're talking about.
	Hymen could be broken and she could still be a virgin.
	If she uses tampons, if she horse rats.
	Tampas is impossible.
	They're too small.
	Also, these fact that, oh, yeah, if you use tampas, you lose virginity.
	Do you think, bro?
	What about if she gets half smears?
	Like, that gets me.
	How am I, as the toxic masculinity guy, explaining to a woman female physiology?
	I actually say that.
	A woman can lose virginity with the Torpox.
	How?
	I didn't say.
	I'm saying.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I know you want to clutch on to that one thing that I said.
	A woman.
	A woman.
	Okay, fine.
	She uses fucking dildos.
	I don't know.
	Okay, that's trusted.
	Because she broke it.
	No, but you could be a virgin and still.
	Okay.
	A woman can be a virgin and not have a hymen.
	Googling it right now.
	Do you know women who ride horses?
	Yeah, I thought that virginity, according to Google, let me turn my brain up.
	Such a reliable source.
	According to Google, according to Adriana.
	Are you going to read it or just repeat the word?
	Let it internet.
	Let me get the source.
	Yes, a woman's hymen can be broken and she can still be considered a virgin because the presence or absence of a hymen is not a reliable indicator of sexual activity.
	Exactly.
	It can naturally stretch or tear from activities other than intercourse, like using tampons or physical activities and making it an unreliable marker of virginity.
	Boom.
	Big Sass Energy donated $200.
	I make over $400K in interest and returns every year.
	I would probably date these sloats but no chance in hell would I ever marry any of them no chance in hell no please Yo, Big Sass, can you give me tips, bro?
	Can you, like, teach me, bro?
	I need to get on my, I need to diversify my portfolio.
	Big Sass, can you shoot me a DM on Instagram or Discord?
	Because I need tips.
	$400K in interest, son.
	Give me some tips.
	Take me under your wing.
	Claim donated $200.
	Thank you.
	I earned my own money.
	Thank you.
	My success has nothing to do with my family.
	Unfortunately, you inherited your beauty or lack thereof.
	Good luck in your 30s.
	That's what you see.
	You don't know me.
	Okay, I'm going to move it on, but that was really cool.
	Oh, wait, there's a chat here.
	Let me, before I forget.
	The champ 39 sends in 100.
	Thank you, the champ.
	He says, Brian, I loved your show.
	Shout out to Andrew for being a straight shooter.
	The OF platform destroyed girls' chance to have a family from New York City.
	Average New Yorker would love to be on the podcast.
	Yo, champ, thank you so much for the us.
	Streamlabs a message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Okay, well, you guys want high earners, excuse me.
	That's cool.
	Now let's talk about height, though.
	How tall are you, and what's the how tall are you?
	And what's the, I guess, minimum height of a man you would date?
	Six foot.
	No, so into the mic.
	I'm five one, and I would date someone that's six foot.
	That's the minimum height.
	Like five eleven.
	Okay.
	And three quarters.
	Daisy?
	Yeah.
	I've dated someone shorter than me.
	He was very attractive.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You've also dated people shorter than me.
	So you said 5'9, minimum.
	Oh, no, this is for Nicole.
	Nicole.
	I'm 5'9, and I would do 5'9.
	Okay.
	I'm 5'7.
	I said 5'9 because I also have been with someone shorter than me, and it's a little challenging.
	What about you?
	I'm around 5'8, and I say 6'0.
	Oh.
	Hear you.
	Okay, well, that's fine.
	What about you?
	I will go with centimeters.
	I'm 170 and my boyfriend is 172, but I don't care about height.
	Okay.
	And then, Hunter, what about you?
	I am 4'11, and I really don't care about height.
	I put six feet, but I have dated a guy who was like a few inches tall.
	Like, I couldn't even wear heels around this guy.
	The thing is, he was a gorgeous little Armenian guy.
	Looked like Rob Kardashian when he was in his prime.
	The short ones are always the prettiest, I swear.
	And they're smart.
	Lethal face cards.
	I feel like for me, the tallest ones were always the most awkward ones to like have sex with.
	Yeah, because it's like I'm like trying to go like this and kiss you.
	It's very awkward.
	Like the proportion is just like it's too much.
	Like, I like a good like 5'759, maybe 6'1.
	Just on him?
	That's cool.
	No, and I just want it to be like the Hunter.
	You're 4'11, ideal is 6' Yeah, that was just something I jotted down.
	Now that I think.
	Let's do the calculator.
	We have to do the calculator.
	We're gonna do the calculator for Hunter and Aaliyah.
	Yeah, just Hunter and Aaliyah, I guess.
	Pulled up.
	We'll do Hunter first.
	Okay, Hunter.
	Scroll down.
	Age.
	Anywhere from 35.
	Oh, okay.
	You're 22, right?
	Or wait, 25, sorry.
	35.
	Okay, so sorry, 35 to what?
	35 to let's do 45.
	Okay.
	That's my peak.
	Exclude already married men?
	Yes.
	Okay, race.
	You know, any color is okay.
	Height?
	Oh, six feet.
	We'll do six feet.
	Do you want to exclude obese guys?
	Yes.
	Okay, minimum income, 250k?
	Yes.
	All right, let's find her husband.
	0.047 probability.
	That's the that your thoughts?
	You know, I think that's my 47 is my lucky number.
	I see it a lot.
	You know, like just when I'm driving down the street for you.
	47 miles left in the gas tank, you know, when I got here today.
	You never know.
	If that came out, you never know.
	You never know.
	So be positive.
	You might be 47 years old, the one out there.
	Son.
	Breathe.
	I think this delusional calculator should also calculate the female side of it.
	Yeah.
	Because it's, you know.
	Well, what you would honestly, if you did this, what you would?
	Certainly there's delusional men out there who think that they can get better than what they, you know, could actually realistically get.
	But like men are much more realistic.
	They're like, okay, give me like a pleasant six with a body count that's not too high.
	That's it easy.
	Easy, that's it.
	Why does it have to matter what her body count is not every body.
	Why does it have to matter what her body count is?
	It doesn't indicate how she is as a partner, and we already talked about body count.
	But anyways um okay, six you, six feet 250k.
	Six feet 250k.
	Oh boy, oh boy okay um, would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
	You didn't answer.
	What's your answer into the mic?
	I don't know.
	I want to say a man.
	Okay Daisy, what was the question?
	Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
	Didn't understand if you go to a forest.
	Would you prefer to meet a man or to encounter a bear?
	The animal.
	Say it in Chinese.
	Say it in China.
	Say them.
	Because I don't want to be judged by my accent.
	What would you choose?
	Man or bear?
	Man or bear.
	Man?
	Okay.
	Adriana?
	Yeah.
	And Nicole.
	I said neither.
	You have to pick one.
	No, neither.
	I don't know.
	No, you have to pick one.
	Do you know how?
	Okay, how about like, okay, a bear, but like a cub?
	Like a little baby.
	Yeah, that's a bear.
	That's a bear.
	Wait, there's that day.
	And that's a good idea.
	How old is the bear and how old is the man?
	An orphan cub.
	Okay, that's okay.
	Okay, okay.
	Less dangerous.
	No, it's an adult bear and an adult man.
	Which do you pick?
	Well, who's the man?
	Is it like Elon Musk or is it?
	Maybe he's gay.
	Maybe he's gay.
	Besties.
	Oh, yeah, a gay man.
	No, you can talk.
	Those are scenarios.
	I've answered three separate times.
	You don't get to pick.
	It's a random man or a random bear.
	Both.
	I mean, you can still push.
	Answer the question.
	I've answered four times.
	No.
	Do you know what?
	Oh my god.
	Do you know what a hypothetical question is?
	If you had to pick one, both is not an answer.
	Gun to your head.
	Why is the resistance?
	This is like an easy question.
	I don't know.
	I'm just like answering in different ways to bring more thought to it.
	You're literally burning.
	You're bringing zero thoughts.
	Okay, wait, then let me talk so I can answer.
	You're burning my fucking brain.
	Okay, then let me talk so I can answer.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'd choose a bear and I'd become friends with it.
	Great answer.
	Okay, what about you?
	Congrats.
	Congrats, man.
	I'm with the man.
	Yeah, I would choose a bear and I would become best friends.
	Oh my god, you guys are our slurred.
	I've beaten some berries.
	You're actually our slurred guy.
	I wouldn't like to be fooled, so I would choose a man.
	Okay.
	Hunter.
	Well, even though my name's Hunter, and if I did encounter a bear, I hunted real nice.
	I think I would do a man, or I would choose a man just because I've always fantasized about meeting a man while I'm watching the sunset in the middle of nature.
	I'm like, wow, if I just met like the perfect guy while the sun is setting 47-year-old man in the forest.
	Yeah, you know.
	You never know.
	Maybe he's hiding in the forest somewhere.
	That's an organic connection in the forest.
	Plus, you know, that's great.
	It's giving snow white.
	Yo, claim the roast is iron.
	Yeah.
	Claim, we're going to do the roasting.
	Whoever picked bear, you are sexist and you hate men, but I'm not going to debate you on it because we have limited time.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy and or sold pics?
	Quick answer, yes or no?
	Yes.
	Into the mic.
	God damn.
	Hello?
	Instructions?
	Hello?
	Yes.
	I don't know if you would consider it a sugar daddy.
	That sounds like a yes.
	Okay, Nicole.
	I've never.
	I didn't give him sugar.
	Wait, you said- What does he mean?
	I don't know.
	Wait, Nicole, you said yes?
	Wait, what?
	I think I said sugar daddy.
	But I've never sold pics or done anything with him, so I don't know if you would consider.
	Like, I literally just went on.
	I went on dates with him, and then he did.
	And he gave you money.
	Yeah, and then nothing else.
	Literally nothing else.
	Okay, that's sugaring, I guess.
	What about you?
	No.
	Into the mic if you can.
	Nope.
	Okay, what about you?
	No, but I would let Drake be my sugar daddy.
	Even after all the Kendrick stuff?
	Yeah.
	Do you prefer Kendrick or Drake?
	Okay, I used to be like a Kendrick D-writer, but like I love Drake now.
	After all the P-word stuff?
	Like the accusations from Kendrick.
	Okay.
	Okay, and then what about you?
	I can more or less explain you and then you can judge because for me it was a relationship.
	I was a student and was also working as an English teacher.
	Yes, I don't know anybody.
	Listen to me.
	When I wanted maybe like a weekend off, it was like, hey, on Wechelle he was sending money because in Wecha you can send money by message.
	was like go take it and do a massage that's having a sugar daddy just because your boyfriend is like brian where are you going if he gave If he gives you money, yes.
	If he gives money.
	What would you think?
	If he gives you money, yes.
	So if you give money to your boyfriend, that's also your sugar baby?
	Depend on the amount, I guess.
	If he keeps sends you money and you accept it, yes.
	What if you can't say no?
	Like, this guy used to sell me money all the time and then like I couldn't.
	Why would you say no?
	I can't.
	I can't decline it.
	I can't, like, not if he's not asking for anything.
	Exactly.
	You just randomly send it to me.
	No asking.
	But I don't know if it was like a sugar daddy.
	That was like nice for him.
	He was my age.
	He gifted to me, but I didn't ask.
	I think like a relationship, but somebody's giving you money.
	Sometimes I also give money to my boyfriend.
	Okay.
	I don't see the tag of being, oh, that's a sugar baby.
	That's a sugar daddy.
	It's the relationship dynamic.
	So we're just going to say yes.
	What about you, Gunner?
	I've never sold pictures.
	Sugar daddy.
	I have a few guys I could call that will help me with anything that I need.
	So I guess you could say yes.
	I'm not in a relationship with them.
	Also, I don't typically see them.
	Okay.
	So.
	So those are sugar daddies.
	So is that a sugar daddy?
	If someone, like a daddy.
	Wait, can I ask you a question?
	If some random girl just started sending you money because she thought you were cute, would you take it?
	It's already tried to happen several times.
	But she zelled it to you.
	I've had older women.
	What are you going to do if they sell it to you?
	What if they sent you a million dollars?
	I would have to give them my information.
	Would you accept it?
	Why not?
	Because I already turned it down.
	I'm not interested.
	A million dollar.
	Somebody wants to send you a million dollar and you tend it down.
	She got to be bad because I would want to fuck.
	What if she's hot and sends you a million dollars?
	Yeah, I mean, of course.
	See?
	Yeah.
	Okay, then that's a yes.
	Exactly.
	Everybody can be.
	That never happened, though.
	I turned my opportunities down.
	You never know.
	You never know.
	You turn it down maybe because of the money.
	I got a girl that's my baby now.
	You know.
	How do you feel about the whole daddy thing?
	Do guys want to be called daddy?
	I don't like it.
	I think it's weird.
	I don't prefer men and all that.
	Oh, okay.
	Cute.
	I'm uncomfortable with it.
	I don't know.
	I prefer sir or master.
	Okay, that's a kick for him.
	I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.
	What?
	What do you mean when you bow or master?
	With a bow in there, Brian?
	What do you wait?
	No, what are you doing?
	What are you talking about?
	This girl right here wants to do some race play shit.
	No, what are you talking about, bro?
	What are you talking about?
	I love calling him.
	You said sir or master.
	Oh, Hunter over here.
	Okay.
	Sir during sex.
	Hey, yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	You say sir.
	That's great.
	Yes, sir.
	You prefer daddy?
	Actually, Poppy.
	Poppy.
	Poppy.
	Poppy?
	No, I wouldn't.
	That's how I call it.
	Wait, Daisy, call him Poppy right now.
	Poppy, Papa.
	Oh, my God.
	Call him Poppy.
	No?
	He has a girlfriend.
	Oh, he's got to earn that.
	Okay, I see how it is.
	Oh, sorry, sis, sir, sorry.
	Sorry.
	He's got a girlfriend.
	My bad.
	Yeah, let him go.
	I'm so used to you being single.
	You don't want him to go home and have a fight waiting at me being single.
	Let's try not to give the menu.
	He's used to me being single.
	I've been single the past two years.
	I've been coming on the show.
	Okay.
	So there's a few more things here.
	We'll do just a few on the questionnaire.
	We don't have time for everything.
	So, do we do the trans?
	I mean, whatever.
	Are men physically stronger than women?
	Looks like everybody said yes on that.
	I don't know if I have time for any for this stuff.
	Maybe I'll just pick three.
	Do women have equal rights to men in the United States?
	Aaliyah, you say no.
	Daisy, you say no.
	Nicole says yes.
	Lindsay, yes.
	Freda, yes.
	Yes.
	Women have equal rights.
	Hunter says yes.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'll touch on that for 30 seconds.
	Aaliyah, you say women don't have equal rights in the United States.
	Why is that?
	Like even just the pay gap.
	The pay gap.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I'll bite on that super quick.
	Who else here believes that there's a gender pay gap?
	Gender pay gap?
	Who believes in the gender pay gap?
	I don't either.
	Don't believe in it all.
	Damien, can you grab me a bottle of water?
	So I'm a little confused here.
	On one hand, you think men's societal role and on the micro and macro level, you want men to be providers.
	You want men to make all this money, to pay for first dates.
	When you do meet your guy, thank you.
	When you do meet your guy, do you want him to stay at home and not have to work if you meet like a high-value guy?
	Why would I want that?
	Wait, why would you want to work?
	Why would I, wait, do I want to stay home or do I want him to stay home?
	No, do you want him?
	Do you want to stay at home?
	Do you want to stay at home?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And do you think other women think the same way you do?
	That they want to stay home.
	Yeah, and like have the men provide.
	Yes.
	Okay, who here at the table wants, if you can find a guy who earns enough, you just stay at home.
	He makes the money.
	You take care of the kids.
	Who's in favor of that?
	Okay.
	Do you think that there's an equal proportion of men that want that?
	So they want the woman to make all the money.
	They are like stay-at-home dads.
	Do you think men want that in equal amounts?
	Nowadays, probably.
	There might be some men, but they still don't want it.
	So do you think a man will be successful when it comes to dating if his position is women pay for the first date, they pay for all the dates, they do all the providing.
	And then when we have kids, I'm going to stay at home.
	She continues work.
	Like, do you think he's going to be successful when it comes to like dating, finding a wife, et cetera?
	No.
	Okay.
	So how can you simultaneously be against a supposed gender pay gap, but expect men to be providers and go out and make the money and you get to stay at home?
	I'm not against the pay gap.
	You just said, is there equal rights?
	Like, is it equal?
	I don't think it's equal.
	Do I think it should be equal?
	I think there should be an opportunity for it to be equal.
	There is equality of opportunity.
	Yes, but I also don't like want that.
	But the gender pay gap, if you control for all these different variables.
	So if you control for stuff like hours worked, location, geography, or geography is I guess the same thing.
	But when I say geography, when I say location, I mean like if you're in a major city.
	And when I say geography, I mean like you're living in like a shitty, that's kind of the same, whatever, shitty area.
	The types of fields that men choose to go into, the types of fields that women choose to go into, the likelihood of workplace injury, workplace death.
	If you factor in all these things, men are going to take on more dangerous positions.
	They're going to work the dirty, dangerous jobs.
	And because of the social pressure that all of you have exemplified tonight when it comes to your mating preferences in men, if women exert a mating pressure on men to make money, pay for first dates, be providers, and enable you guys to stay at home while they go on and work, this would explain, for example, that men are just more motivated to make money.
	They're more motivated to be successful because not because of some evil patriarchy that's trying to hold women down, but because of social pressure that women exert on men that men don't exert in return.
	Does that make any sense?
	Yeah, there's also comparison of girls in the exact same position and like work and like getting less.
	Yeah, when you control for all the factors and you look at exact same positions and exact same hours worked in the same geographic location at similar or the same company, it shrinks.
	It's gone.
	There is no wage gap.
	It goes down to 99 cents to the dollar.
	One cent difference.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	It's not the 80 cents on the dollar.
	That's bullshit.
	It's all fake news.
	And you can research it.
	You can look up economists all agree.
	It's totally bullshit.
	It's been debunked for years.
	Okay.
	Okay, dup, cool.
	How would that be?
	Wouldn't this actually be an example of women?
	I don't think it's a like it has anything to do with equal rights.
	I think this is actually a privilege.
	As a man, we have to default to the only role that's available to us.
	Provide, or you're gonna, you're not gonna find a wife.
	You're not gonna find, as a woman, you can do the boss babe thing.
	I think it makes it a little bit harder for you to find a guy, but I mean, today's social views are totally changing.
	You can do the boss babe thing, do your career, still have kids, still have a husband.
	I think it makes it a little harder for you in a couple different ways.
	Or you can also, if you want, find a guy who's wealthy and then be the stay-at-home mom for him.
	Men don't have that double option that women have.
	I think that's a privilege.
	I think not having to work your entire life and just having a guy go out and kill it and you get to stay at home, I think that's a privilege.
	Also, the system's designed off of their hormonal cycles.
	A guy's hormones will reset every 24 hours, which is why the 9 to 5 suits them.
	Whereas for a woman, it resets every 28 days, which is why we bleed.
	Do you think school is more better designed towards men or women?
	Well, it's 9 to 5, like the same cycle.
	But school's like 8 to 3.
	Or 6.
	Or whatever it is.
	But women do way better in school.
	It's not, well, it's not like performative, like working, going out and like performing tasks or hard labor.
	What?
	And women use more percentage of their brain.
	Isn't academics about your brain?
	School is about your brain?
	Work is also about your brain, right?
	At least the job is physical, normally.
	Work is more physical?
	Yes.
	Women aren't doing labor jobs.
	Women are working like jobs like that.
	The what?
	Being a waitress is physical.
	Okay.
	I would argue female waitresses earn more than male waiters.
	So this would be evidence of a gender pay gap in the reverse.
	Well, you said there was not one.
	I haven't done research, so I'm not going to argue there.
	Do you think male OF creators make as much as female OF creators?
	Maybe.
	What should we do about that?
	Should the female OF creators pay into a fund to bank?
	I never said that anyone should pay into a fund.
	It's just, is it equal or is it not?
	I know there's some male OLA creators at me.
	Besides the gender pay gap, is there anything, when it comes to equal rights in the USA, is there anything else that...
	I think the whole system being designed off of a man's biology.
	So patriarchy?
	Like nine to five, yeah.
	The whole what system?
	I feel like everything's designed around.
	So, how would the system be designed to operate off of female biology?
	Like, when you get your periods, you just don't work?
	Well, yeah, it's ideal.
	That why would that be ideal?
	Because you're supposed to be laying down for most of your period.
	You're supposed to lay down for most of your periods.
	At least for the first couple days.
	In India, I think you're making like a great argument for why there, even if there was a gender wage gap, why it would exist.
	Like, okay, women are just like taking off more sick days and shit.
	They already do that, though.
	They do that.
	But is it equal?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, but so society is designed.
	No, hold on.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
	I just reject your premise completely.
	Society is designed for the comfort of women.
	How?
	It's not really.
	You do realize that, like, do you realize how women don't like they can't they like send their kids to daycare?
	Like, they don't get compensated for having a child.
	Like, in some places, they actually pay women to stay home with like their babies.
	And yeah, that's not how it is, like, here.
	I guess I'm just confused because this idea that like society is built for the comfort of men, but like, how could that ever be the case when the majority of people in prison are men?
	The majority of people who are killed by police are men.
	The majority of people who self-delete are men.
	The majority of people who are addicted to either alcohol or some sort of narcotic or drug, it's men.
	The majority of people who don't graduate from high school or college, men.
	The majority of women, there's a majority of women who go to college, who get degrees.
	I'm trying to think if there's another big one.
	The majority of workplace fatalities are men.
	Yeah, the majority of the homeless are men.
	Seems like society is a little better suited to like adapting to and catering towards women.
	But society, like what you're saying is, like, men are in jail, men are doing drugs, men are homeless.
	But like, what does that have to do with?
	I'm just confused about that.
	I'm talking about negative life outcomes.
	So if we're looking at that.
	Yeah, but they decided that the system didn't do that to them.
	What do you mean?
	Wait, so just to be clear, if a man experiences a negative life outcome, that's because of their agency and their choice.
	But when women, hold on, when women encounter negative life outcomes, it's because of the evil patriarchy and this conspiracy theory where you basically determine that all men are like in this cabal this time.
	Well, but you're mentioning things that are choices, like being addicted to drugs is a choice.
	Going to jail is usually a choice.
	I mean, doing drugs in the first place is a choice.
	Would you say that the same thing about like the perhaps like what about black men who you would you say black men are like over policed or overincarcerated?
	Like are they making choices?
	I mean, that's you if you make that argument about men, you have to be prepared to make that same argument argument when it comes to black men.
	I'm saying like if you're doing drugs, that's your choice.
	Okay, and committing crime is your choice.
	If you're committing a crime enough to get arrested and stay in jail, that's a choice.
	Yeah, but so what societal pressures impact men to be more inclined towards criminality?
	Can you restate the question?
	So my position would be that one component, there's a much greater burden on men to make money, and that's why they're more likely to turn to criminality because there's one.
	Pressure.
	Yeah.
	But it goes back to crimes that don't really justify that.
	I mean, most crime typically, typically does involve some component of like a man's desire to make money.
	Well, I mean, you.
	There's plenty of men who have a shit ton of money and still commit crimes.
	The reason why they're not in jail, though, is because they have to do that.
	Like men sell drugs to make money.
	Women sell drugs to make money.
	Who's more likely to be a drug dealer, man or woman?
	I don't think it matters.
	I mean, if there's a fact or some type of evidence that shows that there's more men in the world that sell drugs than women, then go ahead, show me that.
	But I haven't been given that fact to I mean, we could look up like crime statistics and see like the majority.
	I would love to see that.
	Yeah, the majority of men who are prosecuted and in prison for drug-related offenses, it's much more.
	There's far more men than there are women.
	I would love to see that.
	What if their moms had supportive, healthy pregnancies and were able to stay home and were emotionally safe and put into healthy environments?
	Would they still have all of those that are?
	Well, you know, it's actually interesting.
	Most of the men who find themselves on the wrong side of the law, who find themselves in jail or prison or in the criminal justice system, they're overwhelmingly raised in single mother households.
	So even when she's in her masculine, overworked, and not having a healthy environment, and probably didn't have a healthy relationship with the father.
	Well, yeah, it's one, it's the lack of a father in that dynamic, but like even in households where conceived, like there's a hundred percent female influence and there's no father at all, the likelihood of being involved in the criminal justice system skyrockets.
	Well, I'm not saying for women to do it alone or that women are better.
	I'm saying when a female is taken care of, there's healthier environments.
	And I personally think that when there is a healthy man, that's when it's the safest.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I think a lot of it can all be traced down to how well women are taken care of.
	I guess going back to my original point here, this idea that society is built for men at the detriment of women, it's just totally, I reject the premise.
	It's totally ridiculous.
	Here's the thing: you guys are so ungrateful for the comforts of modernity.
	I don't think you realize how pampered all of you are.
	Life, and this is for both men and women.
	In the entirety of human history, there has been no point in which women have more rights, more freedoms, more benefits, more privileges, and just more comfort than today.
	You can't look at any other point in human history.
	If you're a Western woman who lives in the United States, you enjoy, again, the most rights, the most benefits, the most privileges, the most freedom, and the most comfort of any woman who has ever existed.
	It doesn't matter the country.
	In the entire history of humanity.
	And you guys are so ungrateful and you want to paint men as these evil, the patriarchy.
	Oh, men are oppressing women, blah, blah, blah.
	Go back 200 years, look at how men and women were living.
	It was fucking brutal.
	Don't men commit more suicide as well.
	I said that.
	Oh, you did say suicide.
	Self-delete, yeah.
	Oh, that's no, I love men.
	I don't think men are wrong, but also celebrating rights.
	Like, that should also be like bare minimum as well.
	Just because it was like wrong back then and like it's getting better now doesn't mean that it can't like be better.
	Sure.
	I mean, I agree that things can always improve, but I think like a little gratitude in terms of like I sometimes drive down the road and I just think, okay, how was the pavement made?
	The electricity, the lights that enable us to see at night, how does that even work?
	Like, do you guys even know?
	Like, I don't know how electricity works.
	Do you?
	Like airplanes, so you guys can go fucking party in Dubai or whatever bullshit.
	How does, how do you fly a metal can in the sky 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 feet?
	How, and it's like, all those questions were figured out by the intellect, the ingenuity, and the genius of men.
	All the comforts that you enjoy that make life super fucking comfortable and easy were just think about it.
	I also had the time back in the day.
	Women were busy with their families and stuff.
	Men have more opportunities to have.
	When all that stuff was created, men had way more time and you had access to studies.
	Women before, like historically speaking, before the birth control pill, like there were just certain like societal expectations.
	That was the traditional order of things.
	Like, okay, does it make sense when the maternal fatality?
	What's the specific term?
	Like, if there's a risk of a woman dying in pregnancy as your family, if you can only send one kid to college, say you have two sons, two daughters, you can send one kid to college.
	Does it make sense to educate the woman who could die in childbirth and waste that investment from your family?
	It's just the reality.
	We've been able to overcome some of the risks of childbirth when it comes to advancements in medicine, et cetera, et cetera.
	But the reality is, if you're going to make a choice and send, and by the way, the majority, whether you're a man or a woman, 200, 300 years ago, nobody was getting college education.
	Oh, yeah.
	Huh?
	No, yeah, true.
	Like, I mean, or you were from some royal family or rich, so in that way, yeah, you could access to studies, which mainly was in Leyton, because that's how it was.
	But yeah, it was completely another time.
	And I believe that right now, both women and men are not living that greatly.
	Like, society, I believe, kind of failed us, all of us.
	Okay.
	But I, yeah, I agree with you.
	I mean, you guys are quite put under real pressure.
	And I see that.
	Well, that's it for the questionnaire.
	We're going to do a roast session and then we're going to wrap this up.
	Claim donated $200.
	No, we do not want those kind of women.
	They think their beauty makes them important or valuable.
	They are useful as mothers or arm candy.
	What else do they provide?
	It's an arm candy.
	You look good, aren't you?
	Looking great.
	Ah, okay.
	Trophy.
	All right, guys, we're going to do a it's going to be a $30.
	We're going to do a $30 roast.
	I'm going to just let these come in as TTS here in just a sec.
	We're going to do a brief roast session, then we're going to get this wrapped up.
	Claim donated $69.
	Thank you, Clane.
	I prefer Captain.
	Captain.
	General.
	Governor.
	Governor.
	Call me Governor.
	It's crazy.
	$30 roast.
	Klein donated $100.
	Thank you, man.
	Dear five, you down to move.
	I am stuck in random cities, but you are gorgeous and trad.
	Unless you've got kids, I am down.
	No, I don't have children yet.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yet.
	Yet.
	Maybe with Klane.
	Maybe with Klein that'll change.
	I think he said he had five.
	All right, guys.
	$30, $29.99 roast.
	We're going to do a roast session brief, and then we're going to get this wrapped up because we went pretty late tonight.
	Let's see here.
	Any final thoughts from any of the panelists?
	I have a few more show notes, but I'll do that during the roast session.
	Any final thoughts you want to?
	What were some of the questions I was going to ask you?
	I don't remember, man.
	It's getting late.
	My brain's frying.
	She.
	She.
	Just like the little ones, like, I don't know.
	I don't know, Brian.
	You should have asked me this earlier because I'm getting tired.
	I'm just gonna ask that girl a little bit earlier.
	My brain is on a little battery mode.
	My brain is on the low battery.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Here, take another energy shot.
	Okay.
	Boys, $30 roast.
	Get them in.
	Get them in.
	We have Sons of Liberty with the first one.
	Sons of Liberty donated $29.99.
	When the amount of D they have had, when stacked one on top of the other, is taller than you.
	That's no go.
	Oh.
	These are some degenerations.
	Think of their example to young girls.
	Oh, shit.
	Degeneracy.
	Oh, my God.
	You know what?
	Just really quick, I will give a $2 bill to whoever answers the body count question who didn't.
	$2 bill.
	Do you know how much this is worth?
	I'll take the $2 bill.
	Do you know how much this is worth?
	$2.
	Will you do it?
	No.
	Okay, all right.
	Thought I could buy them.
	She said she would take it.
	Hey, I did it.
	You know what?
	I'm going to give it to you.
	I'm going to give it to you.
	Yeah, she took a lot of courage.
	Hold it up to the camera.
	Hold it up to the camera.
	All right.
	Oh, really quick on the rating thing.
	I want you guys to rate me, my looks, on a scale of one to ten.
	I'm not going to lie, Brian.
	Looks.
	Wait, like you're younger.
	Just looks.
	Well, bro, I've been looking at you.
	We just talk about look.
	Okay, younger self, like 10 years ago.
	Make that face.
	You might have been a 96 body.
	Oh, fuck.
	But now, I know I'm old chubby.
	I gotta lose it.
	No offense.
	All love, no hate, but yeah.
	I feel it.
	Also, I've been like, you know, arguing with you guys all night, so I feel like that's gonna be a problem.
	Yeah.
	Here, just my looks, though.
	Rate my looks.
	Scale of one to ten.
	I won't be offended, trust me.
	I have thick skin.
	Looks don't matter to me.
	You're just rating the looks by five.
	Okay.
	You do have pretty eyes, but you're not my type, so I'll give you a five.
	Okay.
	This is real.
	Rate me.
	Yeah, it's real.
	Can I spend this?
	Yes, it's real.
	It's real.
	You've never seen a $2 bill?
	Rate me.
	It's been a while.
	I don't know, like a 5.8.
	Okay, thank you.
	Five.
	Five.
	I'll give you a six.
	Into the mic?
	Into the mic?
	Six.
	Five.
	I will give you six too.
	Hunter.
	I'll give you a ten.
	You're just so handsome and masculine.
	You got pretty eyes.
	Manipulator.
	She's got manipulators.
	Tell them what I want to hear.
	Watch out for those types.
	Okay.
	Wait, why isn't Q rating you?
	Because he's straight.
	What the heck?
	He's thinking.
	He doesn't want to be involved.
	I give Q a 10.
	And I give that female version of him an 11.
	Okay, all right.
	The female version was hot.
	Oh, we have to do a segment.
	You have to remove your makeup.
	Whoever's wearing makeup, you have to remove it.
	Thank you guys for good break.
	You gotta remove your makeup.
	Daisy, you gotta make it.
	I have Daisy, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, that's good.
	Take it off.
	Take it off.
	What kid is that one?
	This one's all skin types if you want to do this one.
	Here, I'm gonna let the TTS come in in just a sec, guys.
	But it's been one hour.
	I was thinking hard to get.
	And then when you're done, I'm gonna have you guys hold it up to the camera.
	Why are you looking at me that way?
	You're making my life easier when I get home.
	I can just hop in the shower.
	That's literally what I was thinking about.
	Like, I'm gonna get home.
	I already have my makeup.
	She's insane.
	She's some oracle.
	Oracle shit.
	Are you okay?
	You've been pulling up your shit all day.
	I feel like we gotta get used to it.
	It's hard, it's been hard because I have to keep it down, otherwise it's going to be like this, and I'm afraid.
	I'm also scared.
	I've been terrified.
	Okay.
	I'm going to let the chats come through.
	Based Thor donated $30.
	Thank you, man.
	Share one and two out here views of as nothing is wrong with it and trying to normalize it can't make this up fucking lost souls.
	Of detected opinion rejected.
	Happy early Mother's Day Days of you, murderer.
	Oh my gosh.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Basteman donated $30.
	Hyperdemy is the cancer that will kill our society, and we're in stage four.
	Only Brian realizes this.
	The rest of you are willfully ignorant.
	Thank you.
	Brian, I have a question for you.
	What's up?
	Does your audience just like hate women?
	No, they love women and they want what's best for women.
	Why are you laughing, kid?
	My audience loves women.
	They love women.
	I love women.
	But I just feel like no matter what, no woman on this podcast can win.
	Everyone's getting degraded.
	Take the makeup off.
	Y'all need to go to the Midwest and get roasted by the makeup off.
	Come on, we gotta see that Eritrean glow.
	We gotta see that natural glow, Eritrea.
	That's so expensive.
	Makeup.
	You're gonna take your makeup off?
	Oh, hold up.
	Wait, hold it up.
	Oh, I probably can't.
	Hold it up like spread them.
	Spread them and.
	What the fuck?
	I got the makeup caked on.
	I'm not.
	Wait, I'm still doing because that one.
	Show it to us.
	Show it.
	Hold it up.
	Wait a second.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Wait, wow.
	It's like a smiley face on there.
	You're going to take it off?
	Yeah, right.
	Come on, take it off.
	You want to go to the bathroom?
	Into the mic if you can.
	Dissolving bomb.
	That's dope.
	Take it off.
	I'm so proud of you.
	Okay, I'm letting the chats come through.
	One sec, guys.
	We got this.
	Uh-oh.
	Chair two.
	You said you're working on a student visa, correct?
	That's illegal.
	You're an illegal.
	Tom Homan is coming for you.
	God.
	Clay donated $30.
	That brain haven't ever worked.
	Who's this in response to?
	I don't know.
	Guys, $30 TTS.
	Thank you, Clay.
	Appreciate it.
	Fresh donated $30.
	Daisy, I knocked you up briefly, but you fucked me up permanently.
	I could have given you the world.
	Even let you continue and film with other ninjas as long as you were with me.
	No, you didn't.
	That's not.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Clay donated $30.
	Brian, you are solid six.
	Way over everyone on your panel.
	Except Chair Five.
	She is too good for me.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I only date women with large labia, though, so I don't know.
	Are you?
	Oh, that is reserved for an IG reserve.
	You gotta find out.
	I wish girls just like would dating apps would just be like, by the way, I have a large labia, you know.
	When I was on the dating apps, I'm not on the dating apps.
	Are you sure?
	I'm sure.
	But I thought you didn't use a dating app for a while.
	Hold it up.
	Hold up your second one.
	This was the first one.
	I was just refreshing.
	It's like it's cold and it's nice.
	That's cool.
	Here, I'll let the rest come through.
	Thank you, Clan.
	Thank you, Toast.
	As far as the women saying body count doesn't matter and shouldn't matter because it's the past, if a guy had a long history of DV, would you not judge him based on that?
	I mean, it is in the past, right?
	Sorry, DV?
	Domestic violence.
	I was gonna use that.
	Domestic violence.
	Yeah, that's a far-fetched example, I would say.
	You know what I think, though, is like when it comes to the past, right?
	Couldn't you make this argument about something more and chat?
	Tell me what you think about this argument when it comes to like the past, the objections to the past shouldn't matter.
	And you can use really extreme examples like criminality, like the man's a PDF file, or like the man is a cheater, or the man.
	The cheating one's okay.
	I think the or the man they'll still object to the cheating one, but or the man is like did domestic violence.
	You as women, if you will only date a guy who makes a certain amount of money, actions taken in that man's past has led him to a position he's in now that makes him ineligible when it comes to his current finances.
	So his lack, maybe he didn't go to college.
	I think college is bullshit.
	Maybe he didn't hustle in terms of his career when he was younger.
	That's his past.
	Why are you holding his lack of career, past career, ambition, or achievement on him?
	I'm not sure.
	Like, all the actions leading up to this moment.
	I don't know if that's a good argument, chat.
	If you think that's a good argument, but I'm not the only one earlier.
	I'm not talking about you.
	I'm just saying.
	Well, you were looking at me.
	That's right.
	No, I was looking at you just because you're you got money, honey.
	I'm just rich.
	Two dollars.
	I know.
	But I do, I do wonder if that is a good argument in terms of the product store.
	The actions a man took in his past currently make him unattractive in terms of his financial standing.
	You don't think women with the player status.
	Like, if I heard a guy with a player, I don't want to mess with him.
	No?
	I have given guys a shot that I heard were fully players in Slap.
	I've given them a shot.
	Oh, see.
	Peenith donated $30.
	I grew up in the middle of the moment.
	This guy's name is hilarious.
	She admits she couldn't do it alone.
	My mom kept me in church, and I had very strong male figures.
	Without those male influences, who knows where I would be today?
	Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $30.
	This panel is the reason men should get a vasectomy.
	Brian E. to Schnitzel F. Burrito.
	What?
	Schnitzel, you're German.
	Oh, Austrian.
	That's what I think.
	I've been to Grass.
	Chair underscore one underscore simp donated $30.
	Chair one.
	I'll fly you out to FL.
	We can have dinner on my boat and relax by my pool.
	I make about $200,000.
	Crawl 35 underscore you donated $30.
	Chair 1, good luck finding the man you want while creeping up on 30.
	She has a simple narcissistic, delusional, masculine, used-up single mom with an even god complex, but no accountability.
	Her parents failed you.
	Michael Jones donated $30.
	Shares 1 and 2 are delusional, 304s.
	Shares 3 and 4 aren't much better.
	Chair 5, if only you were 5 years younger.
	Care 6 is not interactive enough to form an opinion.
	Care 7 is a Euro 6 and a US 4.
	Okay.
	Daisy's child donated $29.99.
	It's a roast session.
	Daisy's aborted thesis wanted us to wish you an early happy Mother's Day.
	Okay, after that, you have a response?
	No.
	Base Trinaut donated $30.
	Most of you have a chance to meet Elon when he gets to Mars because that's where you are.
	Bass Tranaut.
	That's good.
	That was a good one.
	That was a good roast.
	Brandy donated $30.
	Relationships require trust.
	Trust is built from honesty.
	Honesty requires bravery.
	Lies come from selfishness and fear.
	Lies kill trust and relationships.
	Be brave.
	Never lie.
	Have faith.
	Khmer 594 donated $30.
	Brian, you need to gather some crystals before bringing on these 304s.
	Call up the Crucible crew.
	We'll send them to you.
	Chair One, what's your favorite colour crystal?
	Quick answer.
	Color.
	Color.
	Crystal.
	Quick.
	Pink.
	Okay.
	I brought a crystal today, actually.
	Where is it?
	It's in my jacket over there.
	Big sass energy donated 30.
	I need a crystal at the table.
	I need a crystal.
	But me, marry a single mom.
	OF fucking laughable.
	No amount of hot is enough for that trash.
	The value equivalence isn't there.
	Currently dating a Christian big booty Latina.
	D's nuts in your mouth donated $30.
	You let him hit it raw.
	Didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you a single mom.
	Now you a single mom.
	You said I might have his kids.
	Don't care if he's here or not.
	I can keep it.
	I'm not a single mom.
	Showing the baby off.
	That's good.
	Is this a crystal?
	Chair one is worried that she will lose subscribers if she takes her makeup off.
	Also, what motel did she steal that bathrobe from?
	Wait, I'm gonna order.
	I'm gonna order a crystal on Amazon.
	Can you want to come back on the show?
	Does she know about crystal wands?
	We'll get you.
	Bring the crystal next time, though.
	She, guys, wait, I'm gonna find her.
	I'm gonna find the Instagram post with her crystal.
	Alina, do you know what a crystal wand is?
	Crystal wand?
	Yeah.
	A wand?
	That sounds like a sexy.
	Can you?
	Yeah.
	It is.
	Wait.
	Seriously, there's crystals women stick up to.
	No, chat.
	She actually has crystals.
	I had no idea those existed.
	Andrew Wilson wants to talk to you.
	I'm about the crystal thing.
	All right.
	Put her in the chat whenever I'm going to be able to do it.
	I'm going to go tired.
	Oh, I found it.
	We're almost done.
	Here, Damien, I'm going to send it to you in the private.
	Wait, fuck.
	I might have to look at it first because it's not a photo.
	Maybe you can pause it right at the start.
	Let me see.
	Hold on.
	Okay, water.
	Okay, just pause it when it gets to the crystal, okay, Damien?
	Let's see here.
	We have.
	This is not.
	This is below the threshold.
	Okay, I'm going to do a couple of these reads.
	Okay, Curve.
	Thank you for the membership.
	Pseudo Master Chef.
	He made a mistake 95 times.
	I kicked the Doberman and the bit you every time.
	If only I had a father to teach me, because now I'm all torn up and no good.
	What the fuck?
	The fuck is that?
	Yo, realizer, it's through Streamlabs only.
	Streamlabs only for the TTS, but thank you for the super chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, let me close all those out.
	Okay, final call, guys.
	Final call on the $30 TTS Roast session.
	Final call before we get this wrapped up.
	I think that last one was about me.
	Oh.
	I just, I think it's funny because a lot of people, because of my body count, think that I don't have a father figure.
	And actually, my dad's my best friend.
	So I don't think it has anything to do with my father.
	But.
	Do have you ever heard threesomes?
	No.
	Okay.
	I think it was one of the questions you asked me.
	Orgy?
	Like foursome?
	No, it's always just been like passionate, and I've always just like had genuine feelings when I done it, you know?
	That's dope.
	I'm a lover.
	I'm a lover girl.
	That's dope.
	Okay.
	Okay, Hunter, recently you went on a date with a man who demands you pay half the bill in exchange, he would buy you dessert from ice cream shop next door.
	Quick thing on that?
	Oh, okay.
	So he was a science teacher at a school that I was volunteering at.
	And he was actually a very conservative, masculine, toxic masculinity man.
	And we went to get each shabu, shabu, and at the end of the date, he said he asked me to pick up half of the bill.
	And I said, okay, I'll just like zeal you later.
	Wasn't going to zeal him.
	And then he was just like, no, like, don't you have like a card?
	I know you have a card to pull out.
	And he was a little older than me.
	And I felt a little intimidated.
	So I put my card out and I paid for half of the bill.
	W and I didn't even want the ice cream.
	I'm not a sweet-toothed person, so I didn't even want the dessert.
	To be honest, I didn't even eat it.
	I think I just let it kind of melt there.
	But yeah, that was sweet.
	Never talk to him again after.
	He says, We do not hate women.
	We want what is best for society and for future children.
	Morality is the basis of a thriving culture.
	Yeah, good talk.
	Okay.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay.
	Final note for you, Hunter.
	You said you had to get out of a relationship.
	You hit the dating scene fresh when you were 23 years old.
	You hit the ground running.
	You dated every race, every ethnicity, every culture: Koreans, Armenians, Latinos, Sri Lankans, Middle Eastern.
	My takeaway from all this is you enjoy dating the good, the bad, because the bad experiences shape who I am.
	Also helps me to understand your worth, whether the guy takes you to Buffalo Wild Wings or takes you to Pelican Hill in Newport Coast or Nobu, also, I guess, for like the older dudes.
	Okay.
	And at the end of the day, you have free will?
	Yeah, at the end of the day, I have free will.
	If I go on a date with someone and I don't feel like they are someone that I see myself long-term with, I will take my free will and not be with them.
	And if I want to have a casual date with somebody, I'm okay with that too.
	Okay.
	Oh, I need to get to your notes.
	We'll have to be a little brief and then we're going to wrap the show.
	There's not too many, though.
	It should only be another five or so, ten minutes.
	Michael Jones donated $30.
	Chair 8, you thought you were safe.
	Elorax-looking butterfly can't get a man above 5'3.
	Brian, I knight you as the base knight of Santa Barbara.
	Cringe, you don't want to get married, though.
	Thank you.
	Based knight of Santa Barbara.
	Thank you.
	Big Sass Energy donated $30.
	Imagine making $250k plus a year and marrying a single mom of Cornstar who believes in tarot.
	You have to be the most tugging, desperate high earner on the planet.
	Kidna, yes, never marry.
	Okay, Big Sass Energy.
	Thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, we have.
	Hold on.
	Did I trigger this?
	Sorry, one sec.
	Guys, letting these come through.
	Claim donated $30.
	No one cares.
	Thank you, Clay.
	Appreciate it.
	Sorry, nobody cares.
	I'm sorry.
	I care.
	I care.
	Nobody cares.
	I care.
	I just want to upline it.
	Michael Jones donated $30.
	Panelists.
	If you find salvation in our Lord, Jesus Christ, you can be saved.
	Simps are agents of the devil.
	I pray you all find your way.
	Who, Mike Jones?
	Who, Mike Jones?
	Amen.
	Thank you.
	Carl, thank you for the Twitch sub.
	Appreciate it.
	Peanuth donated $30.
	Everyone say my name out loud.
	Pay more.
	Everybody say the name out loud.
	Peanut.
	That's cool.
	All right, let's see here.
	Okay.
	Going to you, Lindsay, you said young women automatically are more.
	You disagree that young women automatically are more fertile, desirable.
	Fertility is dependent on how both people take care of their body.
	Yes.
	Okay, you had the disagreement there.
	But I mean, would you agree that as a woman does age, her fertility decreases over time?
	Yes, but I do think as time's going on, a woman's body is being fertile longer.
	I know I'm saying this as an older woman who still wants to have children, but I did learn a lot of younger women don't know how to take care of their cycles.
	They're on birth control.
	So this whole mentality of just because they're young means that they're fertile is what I'm speaking out against.
	Okay.
	But I mean, at some age, you do recognize like there's menopause.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think Cameron Diaz was 49 or something, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	Women can have kids in their 40s for sure.
	Yeah.
	Can women, I'm sure there's maybe been like some like a woman in her 50s having kids or something.
	Janet Jack.
	Yeah, Janet Jackson did.
	Also older, actually.
	It was a shock.
	I don't want to do that.
	But I think that they do like IVF or they do like that.
	Let's see.
	You also said, I think we said, you have successfully created a woman hating channel.
	Yeah.
	That was my last time I was on.
	I got roasted and it was very, I will admit to this.
	I wasn't sure what I was walking on to.
	I had a whole idea of what I was going to speak to with women.
	What ended up happening was I got roasted by the audience for looking older.
	So I was bitter.
	I was hurt.
	And yeah, it made me feel like I hated how I looked.
	So when I retaliated and blamed you guys.
	And yeah.
	Well, you're back now.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	You also wrote, you have the power to create a change in how the world is with your platform, but it's a hate space.
	You were wrong about women over 35 being geriatric.
	This is a Western medicine myth, and it's more important how a woman takes care of her body than how young she is.
	But isn't this just a term, like a geriatric pregnancy?
	I think that's just a term used.
	Perhaps it's pejorative.
	Oh my God.
	Calm down, Boston.
	Relax.
	What?
	What do I do?
	Or was that you?
	Was that Adriana who said, oh my God, sorry, I just turned in that general direction, so I've made it.
	I'm spacing out over here.
	Oh, my God.
	Attention span.
	Anyways, whatever.
	You also said you allow people to.
	Wait, you allow people to promote their hate with buying a spot to have their comment be seen and you laugh it off versus holding them accountable like a true uppercase masculine.
	I wouldn't be surprised if that was spiteful.
	I wouldn't be surprised if women are spiraling with their mental health after being on your show.
	Yeah.
	This was with Fitness Nala.
	Anybody going to see a therapist after tonight?
	A therapy therapist?
	Didn't Fitness Nala change, though, after this one?
	Yeah, she became Christian.
	Yeah, after that episode.
	There's so much hate.
	We love through hate.
	Seriously, there was so much hate on that episode.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's it for the notes.
	I'm going to let the last few things come through, then we're going to get this wrapped.
	All right.
	Final call, guys, if you want to get it in because we're wrapping.
	Giga Chad donated $30.
	Is Chair 5 Jam from the office?
	Also, 95 bodies is about 40 feet of de-assuming they were all average yellow L. Some guy's going to commit his life to that.
	Yikes.
	Clay donated $30.
	I effing knew I liked her.
	You are gorgeous.
	Stop blaming Brian.
	Chair 5.
	Chair 5.
	Blame Andrew.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Clay.
	Appreciate it.
	Clay, appreciate all your patronage tonight, man.
	Thank you.
	Women love a donated $30.
	We love women.
	We love women so much that we hate to see women suffer.
	That's why we should work to end women's suffrage.
	Hashtag repeal the 19th.
	We need to end the suffering, the suffraging of women.
	Okay, it's a stupid thing.
	It's a joke.
	All right.
	It's bedtime.
	Oh, little cranky girls over here.
	We're about to wrap.
	We're about to wrap.
	Q, Q, where are you at?
	I'm trying to wrap up.
	Get back here.
	I think he's dying in the bathroom.
	Okay, thank you for this.
	Thank you, Realizer, for the soup chat.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Okay, guys.
	Let's see.
	Like the video kindly.
	And here, I'm going to do a couple fun.
	Yeah.
	Yes, can you show that really quick?
	Thank you, Dave.
	Thank you for the catch.
	Well, at first, it looked like a.
	Never mind.
	No, there's those.
	Can I?
	How much is a crystal like that?
	How much does that cost?
	I paid like a thousand.
	No, fucking bullshit.
	No, you didn't pay that.
	That's not that much.
	Can you give it to me, though?
	Because I kind of want it.
	You won't gift me a crystal after I was so nice to you tonight.
	You won't give me this crystal.
	But it's smaller.
	Daisy, we're wrapping up the show.
	What do you got?
	Crazy.
	We're almost done.
	I'm wrapping it up right now.
	I understand.
	That was right.
	I'm so.
	I ordered it, so I have to go.
	Okay, so.
	I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you and you a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight on the whatever podcast right now?
	If Titty's almost not would you, but what if?
	Like I'm asking them.
	What do they get out of it?
	Yeah, I mean.
	Redemption of their soul.
	No.
	I want to say I'm not just the only fans model.
	I know that I was more than that.
	No, I wasn't.
	You're a bodybuilder.
	Yes.
	I have my own business.
	Own business.
	I just love what I do.
	Why would I give up myself for being the best version of myself for somebody else?
	Even if there's a man that came into my life, if he's okay with what I'm doing, then that's fine.
	If he's not okay, then I gave it.
	I tried.
	I tried.
	Okay.
	GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you guys so much for tuning in tonight.
	Thank you to the panel.
	You guys were great.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Big thank you to everyone who has super chatted, donates, supports the show.
	Guys, we cannot do the show without the patronage.
	We're not doing sponsorships.
	Half of the lives, most of the live streams end up demonetized.
	So your patronage is.
	I'm just sorry, I'm like tired, but I'm blown away by all your guys' support.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Like I said, could not do it without you guys.
	Viewer supported.
	So thank you guys so much, everybody who sent something in tonight.
	Or even, hey, even if you just watched the show, it helps us out.
	So thank you guys.
	We have this one coming in from TJ.
	TJ gets donated $30.
	I love women.
	So much so that I will lay in bed with them.
	Boom.
	All right.
	Thank you, man.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	We have a very good panel on Tuesday.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM at whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	I'm going to do a quick Twitch raid.
	Damien, it's going to be Zico.
	Zico for the win FTW Zico for the one.
	Yeah, fuck it I'll raid him.
	Whatever.
	He's playing League of Legends, but normally we raid World of Warcraft, but that's fine.
	Run, Fine, if you're ulti odds.
	Lower the volume a little bit.
	Run.
	Hide the thing in the stream yard.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, you almost killed him as well.
	Okay.
	Guys, thank you for watching on Twitch.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a prime sub before I send you guys over.
	Thank you guys for watching.
	Are you guys on Twitch after tonight?
	I don't want you to die, you know?
	I think he's.
	I don't know if he's in Amsterdam or if he's in.
	I don't know where he's from.
	He's got an accent.
	Can you detect European accents?
	Whatever podcast rated us.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	No idea.
	Nice.
	Yo, welcome.
	Welcome, Raiders.
	I can't tell.
	What is his accent?
	I don't know.
	Anyways, that's it.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	You can exit without that.
	Okay, guys.
	Oh, no.
	Oops.
	He was about to say shout out to whatever.
	Okay, I just double-checking.
	Let me just make sure there are no chats that just came through.
	Nope, we're all good.
	Okay, guys.
	07s in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	We'll see you next time.

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