Whatever Podcast - She DUMPED Her Boyfriend LIVE ON THE PODCAST?! Famous WWE Wrestler Daughter!

Feb. 26, 2025 - Whatever Podcast

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She DUMPED Her Boyfriend LIVE ON THE PODCAST?! Famous WWE Wrestler Daughter! | Dating Talk #231

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	Hi, my name is Toria.
	I am 25, 25, from LA.
	Went to Cal Arts, just graduated.
	So working as an artist.
	And have you always been from LA?
	I'm originally from San Diego.
	San Diego.
	Okay, gotcha.
	What did you get your degree in from?
	Fine arts.
	Oh, just fine arts.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And are you a painter, drawer?
	Like what kind of art?
	I will.
	I do ceramics and event planning.
	Event planning.
	Okay.
	Ceramics.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Pottery.
	You do pottery?
	Sweet.
	Yes.
	Okay, what about you?
	So I am Kitty.
	I am 33 years old.
	I'm originally from Jersey.
	Now I reside in LA.
	I am a photographer.
	I also work with children.
	And that's pretty much it.
	Any school, college, anything like that?
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	And I think college is a joke to some extent.
	Is it a scam?
	To some ways, not all.
	I feel business and college is a scam.
	Things like nurses and doctors, that is not a scam.
	But, you know, 50-50 with college.
	All the other stuff, though.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you do content creation or so.
	I do do content.
	Not OF.
	Okay.
	Do you still dance?
	Yes.
	So I'm actually a retired dancer.
	I used bikini bar in Jersey.
	Didn't get naked.
	Not stripping.
	It wasn't stripping.
	No.
	I thought you were a stripper.
	No.
	Bikini bar.
	We did do lap dances, so that is still sex work.
	That's still.
	Did I take anything off, though?
	So there's places you can get a lap dance on.
	Yes, in Jersey, bikini bars.
	Oh, that's called in Jersey.
	Yeah.
	But you know, lap dances is still sex work, but retired from that changed my whole life around.
	Are there like, is there, you know, in Jersey how you have to, you can have someone, or you do you have to have somebody else pump your gas, right?
	Yes.
	Like if it's illegal, yeah, you can get actually a fine.
	So is there like a flow of bikini gas pumpers in Jersey?
	No.
	I feel Portland might do something like that though.
	In Portland, Oregon, they got, you know, strippers now serving coffee.
	So.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Marina and I'm a 30-year-old critical care nurse from Massachusetts.
	Okay.
	Education?
	Bachelor's.
	In nursing?
	Okay.
	And you said you're from Massachusetts, Boston?
	Around the area.
	I live like 30 minutes north of Boston.
	Okay, got it.
	And how long have you been doing nursing?
	For about five years now.
	I was a COVID nurse.
	I started in 2020.
	Okay.
	And ICU, so you get like gunshot victims and yes, yes.
	My hospital specifically is not a trauma one hospital.
	I don't work in like Boston or anything like that.
	But I do like take care of like sepsis patients, just like very critical sick patients, a GI bleed kind of thing.
	Is it a stressful job?
	It can be, but I have amazing co-workers who make it kind of fun and like more bearable and like more tolerable to go into work.
	Okay.
	Just like, they're just great people, honestly.
	Sure, cool.
	Well, welcome.
	What about you?
	I am 24, originally from Buffalo, New York.
	Age.
	Or sorry, name.
	Michael.
	Alora, yeah.
	So 24, go ahead.
	Originally from Buffalo, New York.
	I now live in LA for the past four years.
	I do body sculpting.
	What's that?
	It's like skin tightening with the wooden tools.
	Ah, okay.
	Got it.
	And any other occupations?
	No, I'm a full-time student now as well.
	Okay.
	Working on my psychology degree.
	So you're a senior, junior, what do you?
	First year.
	First year.
	Okay.
	Do you have an associates or just getting started with school?
	Yep.
	All right.
	And what's the tattoo on the side?
	Can you show it?
	This side is a moon and stars.
	Uh-huh.
	And this side is two crosses, a number eight, and a sword.
	Ah, okay.
	Interesting.
	Why eight?
	Eight, because it's my soul path number.
	It also represents infinity.
	What?
	What is a soul path number?
	If you know anything about numerology, it's also, there's numbers in the Bible as well.
	They have meaning.
	like I said eight represents infinity um it's no wait eight represents Zero and the number eight represent infinity.
	I mean, I know the infinity symbol, but I don't know if that's an eight.
	Eight is the affinity symbol turned up.
	I know it's infinity.
	It's an endless loop.
	But I know it looks the exact same.
	I'm going to look it up, too.
	The infinity symbol typically is sideways, yeah.
	So do you have an eight sideways or do you have no?
	It's the number eight.
	Oh, okay.
	But I'm saying the number eight represents infinity, just like the number zero does as well.
	It represents God, whole, infinity, never-ending.
	Explain the numerology thing to me.
	What is that?
	Numerology is like the math of spirituality.
	That's how I like to put it.
	It's putting numbers to use.
	It's like a spiritual code.
	So can you make predictions?
	You can.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So like based off somebody's birthday.
	Yeah, if they're not a bad person, there's a certain way that you add the numbers and then you keep going until it's a single digit.
	How precise is it?
	So for example.
	I mean, it's just as precise as a tarot card reading.
	Let's see.
	So not precise at all.
	It depends.
	So not precise.
	Wait, so because I've heard people make claims of if you're born in this year, doesn't matter the date, doesn't matter the month.
	If you're born in this year, you're going to have a good year or a bad year.
	Do you agree with that?
	It depends on where you're coming from.
	I mean, where you're coming from.
	So if you're coming from a Chinese astrology point of view, absolutely.
	But if you're coming from a different background, different view, then no.
	So wait.
	I think it depends on what you personally believe.
	There's not like a set in the world.
	It's kind of Chinese zodiac.
	Astrology, yeah.
	And usually.
	Do you really have months in China?
	It's just years?
	It goes by the years.
	Each year has an animal that represents it.
	So the year of the year of the year, it's the year of the snake.
	The year of the snake.
	Right now is the year of the snake.
	Last year was the year of the dragon.
	So what does that mean if it's the year of the snake?
	It depends on what year you were born.
	It could be a very good year for you.
	It could be a very bad year.
	But it represents rebirth.
	But so basically, it doesn't factor in like month and day.
	It'll just look at the year.
	And Chinese.
	How could that not be bullshit?
	It also looks at the elements.
	Like, literally.
	I'm not saying it's not bullshit.
	But think about it, right?
	So all the people born in a year, they're all going to have bad years.
	How could that ever happen?
	But think about it, right?
	So let's say even just going to a more micro-level high school.
	Okay.
	So most of the kids in a grade in high school, right, they're most likely all born in the same year.
	This would indicate that everybody in that class is going to have a good year or a bad year.
	But we know from our own personal experiences that like some people have good time in high school, some people have bad time in high school, have good years, bad years.
	So how can this ever make sense?
	I think it's not so black and white.
	I think it also depends.
	Okay, that's perfectly fine.
	I never think things are too black and white.
	There's too much gray area for everything.
	There's so many subcategories, branches of things that really get into detail about it.
	If you're just looking at, okay, it's the year of the snake, you're having good year, bad year, then yeah, it's black and white.
	But if you're going into the elemental aspect of it or how they actually look at the stars and decide, okay, these planets are aligning, so you're going to feel this way.
	I just think, like, here's the thing: here's the quarrel.
	I think you're making it black and white because if you're saying, because it's this year, I'm going to make a prediction about like how things are going to go for people born in this year.
	That's like millions and millions of people.
	And it's like, that's just, how can you even.
	I'm just saying that based on that's what Chinese zodiac is because you asked about the month.
	Okay, fine, then I'm prepared to say not just what you think, but whatever the fuck they think is bullshit, too.
	Okay.
	All right, off to a good start.
	Wait, Brian.
	Can you open the doors, please, guys?
	Brian, real quick.
	What sign are you?
	How about this?
	Why don't you guess?
	And I'll tell you if you're right.
	Ooh.
	Trans Taurus?
	She watched the last show, bro.
	Are you a Taurus?
	Yeah?
	I don't know, maybe.
	No, what sign are you?
	I totally guessed he was a Taurus, too.
	Yeah, I have a lot to say about astrology.
	I don't believe in him.
	You don't give Leo.
	Yeah.
	You might give Leo, but I'm not sure.
	Or Gemini.
	He does give Leo Gemini.
	It's valid.
	I usually guess with him like two tries, usually.
	That's all they take.
	Most of the time.
	It's not just your son.
	It's also.
	We'll get everybody else's introductions.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Emma.
	I am 23 years old.
	I live in Vermont, and I do a lot of different things, astrology being one of them.
	But I mainly.
	I mainly.
	Do you have crystals too?
	Who here has crystals?
	What do you mean do I have crystals?
	Of course I have crystals.
	I have wearing some stage before coming here.
	Yeah, I was burning incense on the stage.
	I asked you what kind of incense it was.
	You also have crystals?
	Oh, no.
	I was just agreeing that she was wearing incense anyway here.
	She worked in medicine.
	She better not have crystals.
	I was like, yes.
	Put them in the crystals.
	But my main job right now is I work with kids in behavior management.
	Okay.
	And education?
	Yep.
	And education.
	I mean, what education have you had?
	So I have two years in accounting, but right now I'm in school for psychology and communication.
	You have your associates in accounting?
	No, so I went through two years and almost got my associates, and then I decided I really don't want to be an accountant.
	Okay.
	So I was going to switch it to business because I owned my cleaning company at the time.
	Okay.
	A little bored.
	All the way, Damon.
	Okay, what about you?
	Oh, hi.
	My name is.
	What's the door?
	Go ahead.
	You're good.
	Good.
	Hi, my name is Kaylee.
	I'm 22 years old, and I'm from Tampa, Florida.
	I graduated from a vocational trade school where I learned how to do special effects professionally.
	So I work in the TV and film industry, and I recently segued from special effects artist to producer.
	Okay, cool.
	And you got your bachelor's or?
	No, I just went to a trade and it was a year.
	So it was an accelerated program of hands-on, kind of like sculpting, molding, casting, all that kind of stuff.
	Very cool.
	And you are the daughter of Eddie Guerrero.
	Which is, who's that?
	I know who he is, but I know who he is as well.
	Maybe the viewers.
	A WWE wrestler.
	You may know him as Latino Heat.
	Latino Heat.
	Here, pull it up.
	Pull up the photo.
	I didn't know if you guys knew.
	Instagram.
	So, okay.
	All right.
	So this is posted.
	I'm not going to be able to do it.
	This is posted to your Instagram.
	So that's your dad with your mom?
	Yes.
	Wow.
	And so Eddie Guerrero, famous WWE.
	I guess, well, at the time it would have been WWF, or maybe he was there when it was WWF, but then it transitioned.
	He was in WCW, WWF, and then they changed it.
	Yep, WWE.
	And then there's, go to the TikTok, Damien, but make it full screen for you.
	Oh, no.
	We have the TikTok.
	Come on, I was like 15, 16.
	Don't do this.
	The resemblance.
	Okay, play it.
	No audio, mute.
	Play it.
	Trying to see which parent I look like more.
	There it is.
	I like him.
	Boom.
	Dad, similarity test.
	There you go.
	All right, cool.
	That's super cool.
	Cool.
	Thank you.
	Hi.
	I'm Caravi.
	I'm 29 years old.
	I am, what was the next question?
	I'm from the Philadelphia area, but I did live in LA for throughout my 20s, pretty much.
	And I went to school in LA.
	I'm going to have my psychology degree finally in May.
	Bachelor's, yeah.
	But I would like.
	It's arts, but I want to be a scientist.
	So that's basically my ultimate goal: scientist and eventual politician, too.
	Right?
	Right, right.
	Right now, in terms of other work, you know, I am a full-time student right now, but I have like volunteer hours I do that are clinical hours.
	So I'm still searching for other work right now other than like different side gigs.
	So are you doing anything for work right now?
	No.
	Okay.
	No, unfortunately not.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Raquel.
	I'm 24.
	I'm from Riverside, California.
	I'm currently in the U.S. Army National Guard.
	Recently got back from deployment, and I also work at a youth academy with children for disadvantaged youth.
	Any college or anything?
	I have three years of college psychology.
	Are you still working on the degree or?
	Not right now.
	Okay, you took a break.
	What's your rank in the military?
	I'm an E5 sergeant.
	E5.
	Okay, so you went and enlisted?
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	And wait, you said you were deployed?
	Yes.
	Where were you deployed?
	I went to Kuwait, Iraq, and Jordan.
	Jordan, okay.
	And you said you just got back from deployment?
	I got back in a couple months ago.
	July 2024.
	And remind me, what do you do in the military?
	I'm a mechanic.
	Mechanic, okay.
	Is there like a specific thing that you're a mechanic for?
	Just all-wheeled vehicles, space.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Any like anything flying or no, just on the ground?
	Just ground stuff.
	Okay.
	Tanks?
	Do you do tank?
	I've worked on a few, but yeah.
	All right, cool, cool.
	It's pretty good.
	That's badass.
	Q, what about you?
	I'm the Q-Pill, certified relationship coach, behavioral scientist, YouTuber, author, 32 years old, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	Yeah.
	Okay, very cool.
	And I'm trying to think if I had another question about the military.
	I had one, but it's evaded me, so I'll come back to it.
	But we're going to go around the table.
	What's everybody's current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	The longest relationship was three years, And I've been single since May, but like lots of little things going on.
	It's complicated.
	Complicated, okay.
	So your longest relationship, three years, was that the one that ended back in May?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	I was broken up with.
	You got tums.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I kind of wanted it to happen.
	Not going to lie.
	You know how you just kind of check out at the end.
	You were checked out.
	And orientation?
	Do you date men, women, both?
	I'd date everything.
	Everything.
	Everything?
	You date dogs?
	Dolphins?
	We had a dolphin.
	If it's consensual.
	I actually wanted to take dolphin shit last show.
	Have you dated the dolphin?
	Can't say I have.
	Would you, though?
	I mean, if we could connect intellectually and it wasn't these reality.
	Spiritually.
	Yeah.
	Spiritual connection to the dolphin.
	Yeah.
	Would you prefer a female or a male dolphin if you bounce it legal?
	What the fuck?
	I don't know how to answer that question.
	So you date men, women, they, thems, zurs, Zs, non-binary, trans.
	Have you dated a trans person?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Trans woman, trans man, both?
	All of the above.
	Okay.
	I like it all.
	What can I say?
	And so the three-year relationship you got broken up with, but it seems like you're kind of checked out to begin with.
	You've been single for seven months.
	You said, though, for this seven-month period, there's been a lot going on, and it's currently complicated.
	Yeah.
	Who is it complicated with?
	You don't need not their name, but just.
	You're currently involved with a man, a woman, multiple.
	Multiple.
	Having lots of relationships.
	What's the roster looking like?
	It's a little long, not gonna lie.
	I hope the hoes aren't watching this, you know?
	They're definitely not.
	Give us the details.
	So what's the roster looking like?
	It's like maybe more than 10 people.
	10 people.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm finding all the hoes in different area codes.
	But I'm down for that low maintenance stuff right now, you know?
	Like, I feel like having a relationship is too much.
	Too much.
	The city.
	In the city.
	It's like, oh, I have to be emotionally involved.
	The city of angels.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And there's just so much going on.
	It's hard to know.
	What do you mean?
	What does that mean?
	So much going on.
	There's so many people to meet.
	I feel like I've just been with too many insecure people, you know?
	And like, they're like, don't do that, don't do this.
	And I'm just trying to experience the world.
	What are some of the things they tell you don't do?
	Like, don't fuck somebody else?
	Well, that part.
	I also dance and I've go-go dance, worked, done sex work.
	Oh, when you say sex work, what do you mean?
	Like dancing, some kind of stripping.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I feel like that's kind of low on the toe and pole of like.
	No, it is.
	I guess when I say low on the toe and the pole, I mean like stripping.
	I'm like, when I think, I mean, it is sex work, but when I think sex work, I start leaning towards like either like OnlyFans pornography or actual full-blown escorting prostitution.
	Have you done any of that stuff?
	No.
	Okay.
	No OnlyFans?
	No.
	FeetPics?
	Have you sold feet pics?
	I would like to, if anyone wants some pictures.
	Uh-oh.
	Okay, but so you used to dance at a strip club?
	Yes.
	Or you still do?
	Used to.
	Used to.
	You still do, but you used to too?
	No, I used to dance at a strip club.
	But then this person was like, don't do that.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to do.
	So it's not feeling like that.
	No, it's like, here, I'll play it again.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to do.
	Because You could used to have done drugs, but you still.
	I'm never.
	Mitt Chetberg.
	R.I.P. So, okay.
	You currently have a roster of 10 people.
	Is it like equally men, equally women?
	Like, you lean more towards women, more towards men?
	Hmm.
	I think it's more men right now.
	More men.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I also don't like to put effort into meeting people like that.
	Like planning dates.
	I like to meet people organically.
	Right.
	So like meeting men has been easier.
	Because they put in the effort, is what you're saying?
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	When you do date women, is it kind of confusing navigating like, okay, who's going to pay for the date?
	Who's going to make the first move?
	Are you more dominant when you're dating women, or do you want to take a more, like, let them lead, I guess?
	Hmm.
	It depends on the woman.
	If they're more masked or femme.
	What do you?
	I think I'm more femme, but it depends also on the day.
	And with paying.
	Hmm.
	It's equal, I think.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Or just kind of switch off.
	And do you want to have kids one day, get married?
	Or what do you think?
	I don't think I'll ever get married, but I would love to have a kid, to be honest.
	So do you think, like, at least whoever you're going to have a kid with, do you think it's going to be more likely to be a man?
	Or do you want to adopt?
	Hmm.
	Either.
	I think it'd be cool to have a kid with someone I'm with, but raise this kid in a community.
	Like a poly upstream.
	Yes, yes.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That'd be really cool.
	Because before Kizi.
	Wait, you agree?
	Do you agree?
	Yeah.
	Village.
	Take the village to raise a child.
	Yeah, I love that.
	I love like polyamory and crazy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think it, like, I'm all into that free love stuff.
	So I'm just going to be argued with.
	Have you been in a polyamorous relationship?
	Are you currently?
	I guess, but nothing's defined.
	What do you mean?
	Like, I wouldn't say I'm anyone's like girlfriend or boyfriend or anything.
	It's just like people I'm hanging out with and doing other things with.
	Okay.
	Would you describe it as ethical non-monogamy?
	Like are you upfront with these people that you're like going out on dates with or sleeping with?
	Like, hey, by the way, FYI, I'm fucking five other people.
	Like, do you tell them this?
	Yeah, usually.
	Or if they ask, I'll tell them.
	If we don't talk about it, if you don't ask, like omission.
	Yeah, but if you ask me straight up, I'll tell you.
	Okay.
	And do you, do you have like threesomes too?
	Is that a component of the polyamory polygamy or whatever?
	Hmm.
	Not with other people I see, but I guess like if another person enters someone that I'm seeing, which I say, yeah, like enters the couple, that's cool.
	But like usually between the people I'm seeing, they're not seeing each other.
	Okay.
	And do you do like orgies?
	I could be down.
	No, have you done orgy?
	Yeah.
	Threesomes, four sums.
	All the sums.
	What's the largest sum?
	Like five sums, set ten sum?
	What have you done?
	A lump sum?
	A lump sum?
	I don't know.
	Maybe like five people, but I haven't like engaged with everyone in this huge room.
	I was there at this like sex party once.
	Only one time you've been to a sex party?
	Once.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	I was scared.
	Scared.
	I was scared.
	I was terrified.
	You were crying in the corner, watching everybody else fuck.
	Okay.
	What a role that is.
	Sweet.
	Oh my god.
	Okay, cool.
	Well, we can get into some more of that stuff a little later on, but we'll get your relationship set.
	Real quick, though, girl, where do you have the time for 10 people in your roster?
	I don't even have time.
	I'm out of nine jobs.
	And you live in LA, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Where do you have time?
	I signed on like once a month or less.
	Like once every five months.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, so I guess I'm single.
	I don't know.
	I'm kind of, I don't know.
	Someone just came in the loop recently, but I don't think they're datable because they believe in having two girlfriends and I can't do that.
	And also, they're agreement or not agreement, but they can have two girlfriends, but the girl can't have two boyfriends.
	So I think that's a little not really fair.
	But yeah, I think that's it.
	Just so you've been single for how long?
	Oh, a year.
	Longest relationship?
	So I'm goofed up last time.
	It's actually five years.
	Okay, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Is that the one that ended a year ago?
	No, that was two and a half that destroyed my car.
	But the one that I was with for five years that I kind of forgot about, that was like my like long-term boyfriend that I dated back when I was like 14 to like 19 or something like that.
	Okay.
	So yeah.
	Got it.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	I'm currently in a relationship and the longest time that I've been single, I mean longest relationship, sorry, was four years.
	How long have you been in this relationship?
	For a month.
	One month?
	Yeah, just new.
	Okay, got it.
	I feel like when you originally reached out, were you single?
	I think I was, yeah.
	You were, okay.
	Were you seeing him at the time or this is you just met him?
	Yeah, I think I reached out to you, I think, beginning of June.
	January, okay.
	How did you guys meet?
	Through a coworker.
	It's my favorite.
	So you also work at the hospital.
	No, he's not.
	He doesn't know.
	It's my coworker's best friend's brother.
	Co-worker's best friend.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So it was a blind date, kind of, or just kind of, yeah, like, well, she gave him like my Instagram because he was at a party that she was at.
	And she was like, hey, like, you should meet this girl.
	She's very sweet.
	She's like very nice.
	And she's single.
	And he saw a picture of me and I gave him my Instagram.
	I told her, you know, you can give him my Instagram if he's interested, which he was.
	So he hit me up and sit into my DMs.
	Okay.
	And but so you guys met when?
	What was the day that you met?
	January 18th.
	January 18th.
	Okay.
	Been together for a month.
	So you guys live in the same city?
	No.
	So he lives about, I think, 40 minutes from me.
	Okay, got it.
	And I'm trying to think about any other question.
	No, I think that's it.
	And curious, what's your background?
	My ethnicity.
	Yes, yes.
	Yeah, I'm Cambodian.
	Cambodian.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	As of right now, I am taken.
	That is going to change by the end of today.
	My longest relationship.
	It's going to end by the end of today.
	Yeah.
	So how long have you been in this current?
	Barely a month.
	Okay, one.
	Okay.
	It's already a problem.
	How longest relationship?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	Wait.
	Really quick, I'm going to get right back to you.
	Who ended the four-year relationship that you were in?
	I did.
	You ended it.
	Okay.
	Your three-year relationship?
	Who ended it?
	We both separated.
	That was the one that messed up my car.
	Mutual party?
	Yeah.
	So, okay, you've been seeing this current guy for a month, but you're breaking up with him via the whatever podcast.
	Via the whatever podcast.
	Into this camera and say what you have to say.
	Hi, Luna.
	Lunatic Loon.
	Luna?
	That is his artist's name.
	Oh, his.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	Putting the artist's name on black.
	I am.
	Right into the camera.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, baby.
	We are definitely not going to work out.
	You're still in love with your baby mama.
	Please go be with her.
	What?
	You guys need to work it out.
	I cannot be there to work it out for you.
	That is all I have to say.
	Cooked.
	Cooked.
	Very cooked.
	My Sheila.
	My Sheila.
	Wow, okay.
	That's cool.
	Right.
	So now I'm single.
	Wow.
	Okay, good times.
	And have you had a rebound yet?
	No, he's my first relationship since my ex.
	I was single for a whole year, celibate for that whole year.
	You were celibate?
	I was.
	For a year.
	Yeah, eight months.
	Six months?
	Eight months.
	Five months?
	Eight months.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know.
	It went from a year.
	I had to think about it.
	I was like four months there.
	Oh, my bad.
	It was eight months.
	Are there any like guys in the DMs that you're immediately going to text for?
	No.
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	This was my first time back outside meeting people, and I am already over it.
	I would much rather be single on my own, doing my own thing, building what I want to build.
	Nice.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	My longest relationship was four years.
	And what was the other thing?
	How long have you been single?
	How long?
	Okay.
	I've been single for about two years.
	Two years.
	Was that the four-year relationship that ended two years ago?
	No.
	How long was your last one?
	My last one, that one.
	There's a lot to that story, but we officially stopped talking romantically.
	Probably it was like very on and off, so like a year in total.
	Okay.
	And you said it was really on and off?
	Yeah.
	Was your four-year relationship also on and off?
	No.
	So I actually, I have a rule that I don't break up and get back together.
	Except for the last guy.
	Well, because of life circumstances that I really had no control over.
	Who broke up with who in the long, the four-year relationship?
	So he got arrested for abusing me.
	I don't know if I can say exactly what he did because of on here.
	But yeah, it was the cops had to take him away.
	We had a restraining order.
	And then I was actually still very convinced we were going to get back together.
	And it took me like.
	After his arrest for abuse.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because, I mean, I just loved him, but after being, you know, he was in jail but released, but I was choosing to stay away from him because I thought we were going to take a break.
	And so.
	Wait, so just a bit, you called the police on him.
	I did.
	He pulled a.
	He pulled.
	What did he pull?
	A gun.
	A sword?
	No, he pulled a gun on me.
	He pulled a bow and arrow?
	No, he pulled a gun.
	Oh, sorry.
	After strangling me.
	After strangling you.
	And then called my mom.
	While he was strangling you?
	No.
	Like, I called him.
	I saw Becky choking you and shit.
	No, like, I called the cops and he called my mom.
	Yeah, I called the cops.
	He called my mom.
	Put it on a mug, I guess.
	Wow, okay.
	So he strangled you.
	Yeah.
	Was it like you guys were kidding it on and he went a bit too far, or was it like violent?
	It was violent strangling.
	If you were to ask him, why am I being strangled?
	What would he say?
	Because I took the Wi-Fi box.
	That's ridiculous.
	I think that's kind of valid to me.
	I'm just gonna hit the voice.
	So I love how the two men said it was valid.
	Yeah.
	Like, so.
	Like, I mean, he should have just pulled the trigger.
	So, like, he wasn't.
	They were obviously joking, though.
	They were joking.
	Obviously joking, but of course.
	Okay, so you took the Wi-Fi box?
	Yeah, so we had just gone on a trip to see my mom, and it did not go well.
	And we got back from this trip, and he hadn't been working for over a year.
	I was paying for everything, our apartment, all of his required bills, all of those things.
	And then he just got drunk and went on this tear of like insulting me and telling me how I wasn't even a good girlfriend and I don't even do anything for him.
	And I was like, why are you?
	Why?
	What was he saying?
	Well, it was for it was back in 2021 at this point.
	So I can't really remember exactly.
	You guys were like living together?
	COVID or whatever.
	Yeah.
	So we had been living together most of that four years.
	And I was only 16 when I met him, right?
	How old was he?
	He was 19 when we met.
	Bro, is that.
	Is that it?
	16, 19.
	16 should be fine.
	Yeah, 16 and 19.
	You can technically.
	Well, I guess it depends.
	Some states.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	Almost everything is people.
	Wait, so I wouldn't.
	How did it get to that point?
	You said he was drunk.
	Like, was he just like, like.
	Yeah, so, like, and just like insulted you?
	Like, yeah.
	So, like, I mean, I don't remember exactly in, you know, whatever order exactly what happened to get to the fight, but I remember I was like, you're not going to treat me like this.
	I'm taking the Wi-Fi box.
	And him, he was an alcoholic and he would get drunk to the point where, like, he'd drink an entire court mason jar of like liquor in one night.
	He was a really bad alcoholic.
	Okay.
	Life is rough.
	And so he would just black out and go on these tears.
	Did you know he was an like, was he an alcoholic since you met him?
	So I didn't know he was an alcoholic when I met him.
	When I was so I got kicked out when I was 16, and that's when I met him.
	What do you mean you got kicked out?
	I smoked a cigarette and I got kicked out.
	Of your house?
	Yes.
	For smoking a cigarette?
	Yes.
	My parents.
	Shoved out your house.
	Like, told, I don't want to raise you.
	Like, I'm tired of this.
	Yeah, all that.
	Like, they found a pack of cigarettes on you?
	Like, I was freshly 16.
	I had just gotten my license.
	And my parent was supposed to take my car in to, I think, just like get inspected, like, something very basic.
	And he saw a burn hole in my seat.
	And I guess he found a cigarette butt.
	But yeah, and then his, my boyfriend, ex-boyfriend's little sister was staying the night that night.
	So we had to go back to her house.
	And he told me he just didn't want to raise me anymore.
	And he said that when I get home, that he wanted me gone.
	And so, yeah.
	Your parents disowned you and kicked you out of the house for a cigarette.
	Are you sure there weren't other, like, I was a pretty good contributing factors?
	So, listen, what would you think?
	Like, what would some other contributing factors be that you would expect?
	I mean, there's millions that I could think of, but you would know better than me.
	Yeah, like, I mean, I was a pretty good kid.
	I never.
	What does that mean, though?
	Like, I never got into trouble.
	I was never like suspicious.
	But, like, I could see, for example, that there's the cigarette incident.
	Yes.
	That could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
	Like, maybe there was something prior to that.
	Maybe you were already grounded.
	You did something.
	But I don't know.
	It could be the case that a parent would kick the child out of their house for a cigarette.
	I would suspect, though, that that might even be in some sort of contravention of the law.
	I don't think you can just kick a minor out of your house.
	I did end up going back after like four months.
	My boyfriend and I began living in the house together.
	Your parents' house?
	Yes.
	Your boyfriend after you got kicked out.
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	So was there any other contributing factor?
	Were there any other behavioral issues?
	Did you get in trouble in school?
	Did you go to what's it called?
	The alternative school?
	No, no, no.
	If you get in trouble when you're underage, you don't go to jail.
	You go to the juvenile.
	No, I never went to Juvia.
	I never had any criminal run-ins.
	I was never even a bad kid in school except for I got bullied a lot and so I stood up for myself.
	But like I always had a great, like, yeah, I was a really good kid at this time.
	So I'd just be getting in situations.
	But at the time I met my boyfriend, I had left school because I had gotten attacked by like a group of five girls.
	And they, like, it, my anxiety had gotten so bad that I couldn't like walk into the school without having a really severe panic attack.
	And they refused to move my classes.
	They refused to do, like, really accommodate that in any way.
	So I wasn't in school like that.
	So you stopped going to school?
	I didn't stop going because I did it online and submitted the assignments.
	So I was still submitting the assignments, but I wasn't like going to the classes.
	Does that make sense?
	So, wait, a group of five girls, they were physically attacking you or just attacking your character?
	They physically attacked me, yeah.
	Like I was.
	Like they jumped you.
	Yeah, like I was walking down.
	Did you know them?
	Yes.
	Was there a history?
	What was the history?
	Yes.
	So the history, I don't really even remember, you know, this was in high school.
	I don't remember the specifics exactly.
	You're 24, right?
	No, 23.
	Okay.
	So this was back.
	Would you say this is like you being jumped was like one of the more traumatic experiences of your life?
	Not now.
	At the time it was.
	Okay.
	And you don't remember the history between.
	I've been through a lot worse things than getting like my mom's abused me more than those girls did in the hallway.
	Okay.
	But there was a history with the girls.
	Yes.
	Did you used to be friends with them?
	Yeah, so I used to be friends with them.
	I do remember they started passive aggressively bullying me, like telling me I couldn't wear my hair curly once I started straightening it, telling like insulting.
	I'm from Illinois and I moved to Vermont when I was young.
	So they would insult like my Midwestern accent, just things like that.
	And so I didn't real, I decided to distance myself from them.
	And that started rumors.
	And, you know, I think I had said something to one of them.
	I don't remember exactly what it was.
	But over a rumor that was started.
	And then two or three days later, I was walking down the nurse's hallway.
	And one of them just grabbed me and threw me up against the wall.
	Yeah.
	This didn't have anything to do with a boy?
	No.
	That is so interesting.
	Nope.
	So wait.
	Were they white?
	Yep.
	It was in Vermont.
	I think.
	Yeah, it's one of the whitest states.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it is.
	So it's Maine.
	Milkwaite, Vermont.
	For women to be violent with other women usually requires like a pretty substantial level of yeah, good point.
	So I think it's different when you're talking about traumatized individuals, individuals who have faced trauma their whole life.
	So for like, you know, girls who saw domestic violence in their home growing up or, you know, just anything like that, it's a lot more common for those girls to be willing to fight.
	I mean, like, I don't, look, I don't like to fight, but I know that if someone tries to fight me, I can fight.
	When I was younger, and right, like, I saw violence from my mom.
	I saw, I didn't see violence from my dad, but I saw kind of more mature themes from my dad.
	You know, just things like that.
	Like, yeah, it's a lot more likely that when you have a disagreement, you're just going to fight over it.
	So can I quickly ask a question?
	Of course.
	So if you were modeled those behaviors, those violent behaviors during your childhood, why do you think that you rejected those behaviors and didn't take them on as your own?
	Well, I did.
	So it was a lot more like that when I was younger.
	And pretty much since my abusive ex-boyfriend, I've had to like calm myself down a lot.
	And I was never someone who was like outwardly violent or outwardly reckless.
	But I certainly wasn't kind of like a pushover.
	You know, if you said something that I took offense to, you would know that I was offended.
	And, you know, more than not continuing the behavior because I didn't like seeing it.
	I didn't like the ramifications that came from those behaviors in my young adult life.
	And, you know, you only have until a certain age to kind of correct a behavior, I think, if it's a habit that you've been exposed to, like for a very long time.
	I think at a certain point, it becomes almost irreversible where you're almost never going to beat the symptoms or ramifications.
	Here, look, let me cut to the chase.
	I don't think there's ever justification for physical violence, but I think you're leaving out components of the story.
	Whatever, if you talk shit about these girls, if you instigated in some way, it doesn't justify physical violence.
	Did you instigate in some capacity?
	Well, I'm sure that, you know, when they said these things about me, like you can't wear your curly hair down or like you can't, you know, whatever.
	I'm sure I got really mouthy.
	Yeah, and I'm not going to feel bad about that because I was feeling attacked.
	And it got to such a severe point that I had to stop talking to these girls altogether.
	Okay, so they took issue with you having curly hair.
	They took issue with everything.
	I was bullied for my height.
	I was bullied for my voice and my accent.
	I was bullied for my hair.
	I was bullied for everything.
	But when you said you mouthed off back to them, they attacked you not in the moment, but in cold blood.
	Yes.
	At another date, another time.
	Yeah, so I don't know specifically what it was that triggered them to attack me that day.
	Like I said, you know, this was years and years ago.
	So they just walked up to you and started fucking you up?
	Because like oftentimes.
	I just told you, I was walking down the nurse's hallway and they said something to me and I ignored them.
	I tried to walk past them and they grabbed my arm and threw me up against the concrete wall.
	Yes.
	That's just so random.
	I mean, okay.
	I mean, shit like that happens.
	It happens.
	Like it wasn't like, you know, reinforced or anything.
	I don't want to get too sidetracked here.
	You got kicked out of your parents' house.
	Again, I have similar questions, though.
	Okay.
	I'm answering.
	I don't lie.
	Sometimes these situations happen, but for you to just, you got caught smoking a cigarette.
	They're usually like parents are not just, okay, you're now homeless because you smoked a cigarette.
	I can understand the parent being very upset by this.
	Kicking a child out of a house.
	One, if you had gone to like child protective services, there would have been consequences.
	That seems really extreme for a cigarette.
	Yeah, well, and I agree.
	And, you know, like I said, we went back after three months and it was because my dad realized that he severely overreacted.
	And, you know, parents aren't perfect either.
	Parents mess up.
	Okay.
	I mean, I definitely agree that it was extreme.
	I told my dad that at the time.
	And, you know, he'll say that he didn't kick me out because he brought me back to the house while screaming that he didn't want me there and that he wanted me gone.
	But, you know, after, I think, two and a half months of not having me there, that's when he reached out.
	And he said that he tried calling the police in Vermont and that they said there was nothing they could do because I was 16.
	So.
	Wait, he called the police?
	Yeah, he said he tried.
	You were smoking a cigarette.
	No, because I was out, like, while I was gone.
	Oh.
	Like, so.
	Okay.
	My dad kicked me out.
	And then when he called the police, they said that he tried to report me as a runaway.
	Wait, he kicked you out.
	Yes.
	He kicked you out.
	And then that same night said that.
	No, not that same night.
	Oh, when?
	So, like, I was probably out of the house for about four months altogether.
	So, like, probably.
	Four months after then he called the police.
	I wouldn't say, so I found this out after I got back.
	So I don't know when in between that four-month period he called, but afterwards, we were talking about it.
	And he said that he called the cops and that the cops said they couldn't do anything.
	Wait, so when he put you out, did he put you out?
	Like, was it in the moment he was angry for at night or did he put a time limit?
	Did he say never come back?
	So, no, he said, he just said, I don't, like, that's really what I remember.
	I don't want to raise you anymore.
	I don't want to do this anymore.
	It's too difficult to do this with you.
	And so, you know, a 16-year-old brain hears that, especially one that was abused by their other parent as well.
	They're like, okay, well, say less.
	Like, I'm gone.
	And so that's what I did.
	You know, my dad's not perfect.
	He's lived a really hard life himself.
	So we got in this argument, and that was kind of another situation where I was like, I don't like this.
	I don't like this behavior.
	I don't like this reactivity.
	I don't like this anger.
	You know, so it was a lot of experiences like that in my, like, before I turned 18 that really helped form my behavior.
	Wait, so his specific words were, I'm tired of raising you.
	His specific words were, I don't want you here.
	Go live with the bad parents.
	Because the words are shifting a little bit.
	Earlier, like when you just said it, you said, I took a hint.
	I forget exactly verbatim what you had said there, but you said, oh, I took the hint and then I left on my own volition.
	So the words you used like 30 seconds a minute ago are completely different to how you just described it.
	I just said I took the hint that he wanted you out.
	Didn't want me here anymore.
	He didn't want to raise me anymore.
	If you say, I don't want you here, that kind of insinuates.
	Is that what he said, though?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We'll come back to that in just a sec.
	We have the chat going through.
	Sorry to graffito tagged for the delay.
	Donated $200.
	This story is so sus.
	Number one, it takes two people to fight.
	You definitely weren't just a victim.
	Number two, your school definitely accommodated psychiatric issues.
	It's federal and state law.
	Stop the cap.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Yes, I would love to respond.
	So I actually got the chance to go work at the school district when I first started working with children.
	And one of my big things with the school district, just in general, was that they never documented abuse or anything like that.
	Like if I had bruises, I walked in with bruises.
	That was never documented.
	And when I got to go work at this district, I saw that pattern repeating.
	Bruises from your boyfriend or from your parents?
	Bruises from, well, if a child walks in with bruises, you're supposed to document it and notify them.
	You're a mandated reporter.
	You're a mandated reporter.
	You're supposed to.
	Yeah.
	Any marks.
	And I was never asked about so many of them.
	And then when I went to go work there last year, there was a specific student who showed numerous very obvious signs of sexual assault.
	And I kept repetitively pushing to have this reported, to have him go to the nurse and have certain things checked out.
	And I was basically told to stop.
	I was told that it's a lot of paperwork and we aren't even sure.
	You know, I think school districts across the country really aren't doing their job.
	Okay.
	And then I guess bringing it back to the original thing here, your boyfriend choked you, strangled you, and then pointed a gun at you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Was he drunk while we did this?
	Of course.
	Okay.
	And then you called the police.
	What was he charged with?
	He was arrested.
	He was arrested.
	You could look up the police report from the night he was arrested if you wanted to.
	It's okay.
	He was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, I believe, and interfering with 911 calls.
	Okay, was he prosecuted for the felony?
	No, because domestic violence abusers in Vermont aren't prosecuted.
	There's someone who has over 180 criminal run-ins and they're still just walking the street.
	And after he did this to me, he tried to slit another person's throat, and he's still just walking free after getting arrested for that.
	Vermont and their laws are.
	I guess Vermont's pretty liberal state.
	I mean, they let a lot of criminals go.
	I mean, perhaps there's some truth to that statement.
	We have people who don't get a job and just steal all of their things from a store because our laws are so relaxed.
	A cop can't grab you if you're shoplifting because that's assault.
	That's how Bernie Sanders is used to.
	He was arrested, though, correct?
	Yes, he was.
	And did he get out on bail?
	How long was he in jail?
	Yep, so he was in jail for less than three days.
	He was immediately let out.
	And he went to go stay with someone I knew.
	And he gave them, they gave him all these rules.
	Like, he couldn't be drinking, he couldn't be playing excessive video games, like, he had to have a job, all these things.
	And he broke every rule and got kicked out in less than three months.
	Were you ever abusive towards him?
	I wasn't perfect.
	I will say that after, you know, four years of abuse, you definitely give back, like you match the energy, you know what I mean?
	I'm really not a malicious person.
	I'm not someone who like tries to go out of my way.
	I don't even like fighting or arguing, and I never have.
	I've just always been in fight or flight and felt like I had to.
	So he would say I was abusive towards him in the sense that when he would hit me, I would hit him back.
	Like I wasn't going to take that, especially with what I saw growing up.
	Did you ever hit him first?
	No.
	Never.
	Never.
	Okay, so he was physically abusive.
	Yes.
	Physically violent.
	Yeah.
	And he always initiated.
	Okay.
	Would this be out of the blue and typically related to his alcohol consumption?
	Like, was he better when he was sober or the same?
	He was.
	He was bad all the time.
	Like, he.
	Even sober, he would do things like insult.
	He would just insult everything about me.
	Would you insult him?
	No.
	I loved everything about him.
	I thought he was.
	If I'm dating you, I'm.
	He loved even the physical and verbal abuse.
	Well, in my mind, it was like he saw this growing up.
	He doesn't want to do this.
	I was a kid.
	Like, he doesn't want to do this.
	This is what he's doing.
	Yeah, who cares what the justifications are?
	Well, I had to go through those experiences to understand that the justifications don't matter, though.
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah.
	I don't care how abused you were as a child.
	If you commit crimes, I don't care.
	Yeah.
	You're still guilty of said crime.
	In this case, according to you, he was physically and morally abusive.
	Yeah.
	I had friends who came to me.
	I wouldn't forgive, like, if a girl was abusive towards me.
	I don't care how fucking abused she was.
	Goodbye.
	Like, it's not, I'm not going to tolerate somebody's abuse because they were abused themselves.
	Yeah, and I totally agree with you.
	And I'm at that point now where, like, if I see a red flag, like, someone's doing drugs or has anything to do with drugs or like excessive partying as an unhealthy coping mechanism, like, I just stay very far away from that.
	But I had to still experience those things to learn those lessons.
	Okay.
	So, but I guess my confusion is you stayed with him for four years.
	And then even that, had he been arrested before for physical abuse towards you?
	Had you called the police on him before?
	No.
	There was one time he called the police on himself, and that case was dismissed.
	He wasn't letting me leave.
	And so I was trying to get past him and push past him.
	And he just wouldn't let me pass, so I tried to move his body like this.
	And then he pushed me on the ground.
	And because I fell and I got a bruise, he called the cops on himself.
	Because he didn't want me to call the cops first.
	In his words, that's what he said.
	Was he arrested?
	He was arrested.
	He was released.
	So he's been arrested twice in related to domestic violence situations with you.
	And the courts dismissed the first case.
	Even though he called, so there's a, I assume like a 9-1-1 recording of him calling the police on himself, confessing essentially to committing a battery.
	I assume the police come, they get a statement from him, which perhaps was on body camera, saying that he physically assaulted you and they let him go.
	Like they arrest him and they didn't.
	That's how arrests work in Vermont, really, is you're going to get arrested.
	The only time you're arrested for more than like 24 hours max is if it's on a Friday and a judge can't have a Zoom call with you.
	Were you in touch with the prosecuting attorney, the district attorney?
	Because typically with DV cases, I mean, they can prosecute.
	I got a victim advocate.
	Well, they can prosecute a case even if the victim doesn't want to.
	What's the word?
	It's not up to me.
	Yeah, it's not up to me.
	It's up to me.
	They're not cooperate.
	Yeah.
	But after he was arrested, were you unwilling to cooperate with the district attorney?
	So the first domestic violence incident, I never even got that.
	I don't think there was ever really even.
	I think there was one court case for the first one, which was like first when we got together, right?
	And I was just coming out of like that thing with school.
	I was having like all these problems with my dad.
	So like I really wanted this person in my life.
	Like I think that's important.
	I was young and I just really wanted this person in my life and I was mentally not in the best position.
	Okay.
	So well fast forwarding back to the second arrest where he strangled you and put a gun in your face, you wanted to get back with him after he was because I was so what was it?
	Assault with a deadly weapon?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	So I think that's what it says in the police report.
	So you got back with him or you did you get back with him after that?
	I didn't.
	No.
	Did you meet him in person again after that?
	Okay.
	Never.
	But you wanted to get back with him.
	So yeah, like I would say for the first like couple months when I was depressed, like I was essentially grieving a breakup for that first few months because he wasn't there with me.
	Like I had had him next to my side for the last four years and even though he was abusive, I don't know why that did so much for me just having someone.
	But no, I never got back with him after that because at the place he was staying, he was supposed to stop drinking.
	And he blamed me for all of these things.
	Like, oh, well, it's your fault I drink so much.
	Like you stress me out.
	Or like you're just too boring.
	That's why I play some video games all the time.
	Or like we don't, you know, any of those things.
	And those issues continued and he kept getting arrested and got another DUI.
	He has like eight DUIs.
	Had he had DUIs before you started dating him?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	So when I met him, he had no job, no car.
	He was living with his dad.
	I got him his life.
	I helped him get his license.
	I helped him get all his government documents.
	You like a project, don't you?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, I did.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I did like a project when I was younger, but that's a very 16-year-old and childhood mindset.
	Were there other men interested in you?
	Like guys at your high school who were just, I don't know, on the tennis team, who had stuff going on.
	I really always got bullied.
	I always got bullied.
	So I was really anxious.
	I never really had a lot of friends.
	This was my first like long-term serious boyfriend.
	This, you know, I lost my virginity with him.
	Okay, you were, so you were like connected and yes.
	So like he up until I dated him, and this is still my perspective.
	You shouldn't date someone unless you're willing to try and make it work and spend your life with them.
	And so I, you know, I just saw no idea of avenge.
	When you started to date him, your attitude was, this is going to be my future husband, the alcoholic multiple DUI.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Like, don't you think he's going in?
	I'll tell you why.
	Financially don't wanna.
	Why?
	Tell me why.
	Okay, so my dad's a recovered addict, and he hasn't touched anything since I was born.
	He found out, you know, my mom's a really bad alcoholic too.
	Okay.
	And my dad was an addict when I was conceived.
	And so while my mom kept partying, my dad went to rehab and switched his life around.
	And everything, like, so when I was younger, like, drugs, alcohol, you know, all those things, none of those things really turned me off because I've seen how a man can like switch his life around and do the best that he can.
	They can.
	But it doesn't mean they will, and I had to grow and understand.
	Okay.
	But I know that men are capable of it.
	But now I just have to, I can't see those red flags anymore.
	All right.
	Wow.
	That's a lot.
	Okay.
	In any case, you said in your notes, you're so single.
	Yes.
	So single.
	I'm so single.
	You've been so single for two years.
	Yes.
	You've been celibate for two years?
	No.
	When's the last time you were involved with the guy?
	Probably three or four months ago.
	So you've been celibate for three or four months?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But it's.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, I'll get we can come back to some of that stuff later, but I'm going to get everybody else in relationship status.
	I am single, but as of the last couple weeks, I've kind of been talking to someone.
	I'm happy with where that's going.
	My longest relationship was four years, and I initiated the breakup conversation.
	Okay.
	And how long have you been single for?
	I've been single since 2022, so about three years.
	Three years.
	All right.
	And you've kind of been seeing somebody, though.
	Who is he?
	Or, well, don't say his name, but how did you guys meet?
	Dating app?
	Twitter.
	I actually love it because it was organic.
	We had mutual friends, and I had met him there, and it was really nice.
	He treated me really well, and I was into it.
	I saw on your Twitter, you respond frequently to mostly Tristan Tate, but occasionally Andrew Tate, I think.
	I'm curious, have you slid into his DMs?
	Not like that, no.
	But you have slid into his DMs.
	But like asking for advice or some shit?
	There was a time where my dog was dying and somebody posted about it and he was very kind about my dog dying.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, no, he.
	Would you date Tristan Tate?
	I mean, I think that I'm happy with where my talking phase is going now.
	Maybe if that.
	Before you met him, would you have been interested in Tristan Tate or Andrew Tate dating them?
	I think it would depend on how they were in person and if I actually, if they were more than their online persona.
	And I obviously know a little bit more about certain people, like Tristan with the whole dog situation.
	But yeah, I know.
	Well, how about this?
	They offer to fly you to Romania for a date.
	One of them or either, whatever.
	Would you go?
	I think they would have to know my morals first.
	Which is what?
	That I'm saving myself for marriage and have been my whole life.
	So I'm not really a call-out girl.
	Are you virgin?
	I am a virgin.
	Not a born-again virgin.
	No, I've been.
	A virgin.
	No, I am a virgin.
	It's actually so important to me.
	It makes dating very difficult.
	So you probably wouldn't want to date them because I don't think they're waiting.
	Yeah.
	They're not waiting.
	I was trying to say that nice way.
	Yeah, definitely not.
	Obviously, they're attractive men.
	Obviously, I have certain morals.
	They wouldn't line up.
	It wouldn't line up.
	I was trying to say that in the nicest way possible.
	I understand.
	I understand.
	Thank you.
	What about you?
	Okay.
	So I was in a well, I'm single right now, pretty much.
	I guess it's complicated.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Longest relationship.
	Yeah, longest relationship, four years.
	But we didn't really break up.
	I kind of.
	You're still fucking.
	No.
	I mean, okay, so I moved from LA because, you know, I have all these goals.
	I want to have like a PhD.
	And like I said, I want to be in politics.
	So I can't really do that.
	I feel when I'm in LA, it's just very distracting, super expensive.
	So that's kind of why we're not hooking up anymore because I moved.
	And I told him, and I was like, I'm leaving.
	Wait, bye.
	Here, I'll ask questions and you just give me the answers.
	When did you move from LA?
	So I moved in December.
	Okay, so recently last year, recently.
	So you were seeing him up until December.
	Yeah.
	And you moved to where again?
	Back to the Philadelphia area.
	Philadelphia.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And how long were you seeing him?
	I was, like I said, I was seeing him for four years.
	Okay, this is the four-year guy.
	Yeah.
	Can I ask if it was the four-year?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So it's complicated, though.
	So was there not a clean breakup?
	No, I mean, if I went back to, like, you know, I'm going to, I'm probably going to see him in a few days.
	That's the question I was about to ask.
	Right.
	You're here in Southern California.
	Yeah.
	So when I see him, I see him.
	Yeah.
	But you guys, I'm confused.
	So did you break up or did you not?
	I told him I was like, I want to stay friends, but I don't feel that I can really live in this area at this time of my life because I'm trying to focus on my career and everything like that.
	Okay.
	So, and he was just like, okay.
	When did you arrive in California?
	Recently?
	Like, you mean just now?
	Yeah, for the podcast.
	Oh, okay.
	It was this morning.
	Did you see him this morning?
	No.
	Okay.
	So I guess you're single.
	Yeah.
	You could say that, yeah.
	But you're going to meet up with him for some fun time, I guess, before you leave.
	Okay, so.
	But you said earlier you're also polyamorous.
	Yeah.
	So during the four-year relationship, were you seeing other people?
	No, no.
	It was a monogamous relationship?
	Yeah.
	You said something about Polly, though.
	Maybe I misunderstood.
	Are you.
	I just don't.
	I don't really feel like I'm not.
	I don't really feel that I'm going.
	Like, I don't have any desire to find a monogamous partner that I'll be with for life.
	You're monogamous in a four-year relationship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was.
	I feel like he was sexually, it was satisfactory for me.
	So that's, I think, why.
	That's what you guys can hear.
	The sex was satisfactory.
	Okay.
	The sex was just good enough.
	Yeah.
	Love it.
	Yeah.
	So I'm just not, I'm not, you know.
	Has there been a period of your life where you were dating multiple people?
	Sleeping with multiple people?
	Yeah.
	What's what was the biggest number, I guess?
	Five, like a roster?
	Two or three.
	Two or three?
	Okay.
	Since the breakup, you've been single-ish for a month or so.
	Have you had a rebound?
	No.
	Have you been seeing any other guys?
	I just really, I haven't, you know, and that's the thing about like living in Pennsylvania.
	It's just like, it's not really my style sexually.
	Philadelphia?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's a major city.
	Yeah.
	It's not your style sexually?
	Like, LA, I like LA because it's just.
	Is it all soy boys?
	And why do you like LA?
	What do you like about that?
	Do they all want to be pegged?
	Is that it?
	F-boys?
	They all want to be pegged.
	I've had good experiences, like a lot of people are somewhat drug-induced.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	What is sexually wrong with the men in Philadelphia?
	I just haven't found any that were like I found particularly attractive.
	I haven't met any.
	Wait, but you so you've had sex with them?
	No, I haven't.
	I just haven't.
	What did you say sexually what?
	I just haven't found any that I thought were, you know, attractive.
	Like, I haven't met any.
	In Philadelphia?
	Yeah.
	I know when he's sitting here and he's sort of feeling he's just like offended.
	I wasn't born.
	He was in Philly.
	Oh, you weren't?
	Oh, okay.
	He's from the mean streets of.
	I don't know where you're from.
	Carol, North Carolina, was it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, mean streets.
	I'm from the mean streets of Santa Barbara.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So you're not digging the Philadelphia guys.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	So I'm in a relationship.
	It's six months.
	And my longest was three years.
	Who broke up with who in the three-year relationship?
	I broke up with him.
	All right.
	That's everybody's relationship status.
	Speaking of which, we had this come through.
	Oh, boy, I hate these ones.
	Donated $200.
	Oh, my God.
	Ladies, would you date Brian?
	On one hand, he is tall, six foot one, blue eyes, rich, sometimes funny, successful, but he has a dead bod, probably autistic, has a weird liking for big labia and a small pee-pee.
	It's average, first of all.
	Okay, get it right.
	Okay, fuck.
	We'll go around the table.
	Would you date me?
	If you have a big labia, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait.
	It's not a big labia then.
	No, he has.
	He has a thing for big labia.
	Okay, I'm into that too.
	So we have that in common.
	Oh, you like women with large labia.
	But you also like women with large labia.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So you're saying you have large labia?
	No, no.
	But I'm saying we share that labia.
	We have that in common.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	You prefer that in women, the large labia?
	I like all labia.
	You like Audis, me too, but you have a preference.
	But I like big labia energy.
	You like big labia energy.
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	So if we connected mentally, yes.
	But as far as the height requirement, I don't care.
	I could date someone that's short, tall, and I like someone that's bigger than Brian.
	So.
	Okay, cool.
	I think you're attractive.
	Thank you.
	Hold on.
	You got a boyfriend, though.
	You can't be saying that sort of thing.
	That's okay.
	We're very honest.
	I'm a very honest person, but I'm not saying like.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I'm just saying, like, you are an attractive person.
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah.
	So, like, if I was single, whatever.
	Boom.
	W.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would say yeah.
	Okay.
	Um, I think so.
	Yeah, even after the Inquisition.
	Even after I interrogated you.
	Oh, definitely.
	I mean, I.
	She enjoyed the interrogation.
	I'm not embarrassed about anything I've been through.
	I've worked really hard to get through a lot of it.
	But yeah, I mean, I haven't seen any red flags in you.
	You're attractive.
	Thank you.
	I would just, yeah.
	I'm getting all the W. I'm getting all the W. I'm getting all the W's.
	Even a dead body.
	You're fine.
	Oh, thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	Depending if we were both single and both had a good vibe, I would definitely consider going on a date.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Wow.
	Okay, look at that.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'd want to talk to you more to see how smart you are.
	Because I like intelligent guys.
	Temperature IQ.
	Okay.
	But just at face value, yeah.
	You're an attractive guy.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Personally, no, just because you're not my type, but I bet you're a great guy.
	Thank you.
	Cute.
	My boy almost went eight foot eight.
	I know.
	That's a rare brian.
	It does.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Damn it.
	What about the female version of you?
	Would she date you?
	Would she date you?
	Can we find that photo really quick just to pull it up since it's contextual?
	Pull it up.
	Pull that up.
	Would she date me or you?
	Me.
	I don't think black women like me, to be honest.
	You know what I mean?
	It's not that they don't like me.
	Okay.
	Wow, look at eyebrows.
	That's female cue.
	Is that AI?
	That's trans cue.
	Very pretty.
	But yeah, I don't think black women like me.
	You know, I would date a black woman.
	I feel like they want to date black guys, you know?
	They do.
	Primarily.
	Strong preference.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, let's get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	So, where do we begin?
	We are going to start with.
	Is that a Lincoln Park song to start with?
	One thing.
	I don't know.
	Okay, I sound right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Kitty, we're going to start with Kitty.
	You said you like you attract nothing but guys with warrants and face tattoos.
	Yep, true.
	You just got played by a younger dude.
	How young?
	I don't want to answer that.
	Because you're 33.
	How old was he?
	Not answering.
	Come on, kitty.
	Not answering it.
	Give us the idea.
	Over 21, though.
	He was 21.
	Over 21.
	He was 22.
	He was 22.
	Over.
	He was 22.
	Over.
	He was 18, right?
	Oh, no.
	No, I would never.
	I would never.
	They need to be drinking age legal.
	Okay.
	So you got played by a younger dude.
	When you say you got played, what does that mean?
	Well, for starters, her boyfriend that she dumped, I actually hooked her up with his friend.
	So that whole thing.
	I don't know.
	We're just all kicking in my apartment and stuff.
	And I don't know.
	Dude, like, acted like he liked me.
	I also kind of helped someone out and allowed two people in my apartment that got kicked out from their Airbnb and stuff that got threatened to get, I guess, shanked.
	Wow.
	Yeah, but how would I explain it happened?
	I don't know.
	They left, and then bro would just kind of keep leading on in the DMs.
	And then one day we're supposed to go to the same rave and they left within five minutes after they knew we were going, which is a little sus.
	And then the next day, she hits me up and she's like, he is a girlfriend now all of a sudden.
	And then she's like, you need to tell her that you don't like her.
	And he's like, no, but I do like her.
	And I don't know.
	What did he say about smashing both of us or something?
	Yeah, he said he was smashing two girls.
	And I said, you can't lead my friend on because that's crazy.
	That was already done and over with, anyways.
	Yeah, but he was like feeling so high and mighty that he had two bitches.
	And he did not.
	It was just after me.
	Interesting.
	And bro, I guess his new chick, I guess is his sugar mama.
	And she just gave birth like six months ago to like someone else's kid and just using her for money.
	So I guess that girl just adopted two children.
	In LA, like a lot.
	Good times.
	In LA.
	Good times.
	Here, really quick, we're going to get into more of it.
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	Now, you said that yesterday you almost got drafted into a cult and your soul got taken.
	Almost.
	No, I said almost.
	Almost.
	A lot of people in LA need to stop.
	Am I allowed to bring certain words up?
	I don't think it was.
	Some people need to stop doing K out here.
	They're losing their minds in LA.
	Thinking they're.
	I'm including you.
	Were you taking kids?
	No, no.
	I actually, I'm sober.
	I'm 100% sober.
	I'm protected.
	I've had a, yes, I am protected.
	Spiritually protected in every way possible.
	Spiritually protected.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But bro is weird and was like, kitty up.
	Are you going to do some K?
	The portals are going to open for you.
	I am God.
	I am a God.
	The Christians talk about me.
	That's who they're talking about is me.
	And he's like, and I just said, no, like, I'm sober.
	I'm happy.
	I'm, you know, I believe what I believe.
	Like, that's it.
	You're not my God.
	And we, me and my other two friends, we left within like, I don't know, 15 minutes.
	I feel like he's like the new Papa Legba.
	But he's like, you shall pay.
	You really don't know.
	And he did some weird like arm dance.
	Oh, no.
	Do that again.
	And he's like, I am God.
	Oh, boy.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	That's crazy.
	That's wild.
	Yeah.
	Just that LA, LA guys, you know?
	Too much K.
	We need to put down the drugs.
	You wrote here, chivory is dead.
	I feel like chivory is dead.
	But let me, I'm going to send it in the chat.
	Just you typed it in an interesting way.
	I'm dyslexic.
	Chivory?
	Like, this is how you typed it.
	Hold on.
	I know.
	I'm dyslexic.
	Chivalry.
	Chivory, that's what you wrote, is dead.
	This new age of dating men be playing women and want a sugar mama.
	Now doesn't matter if you cook clean not, and not be a thought men wife hose now.
	And you think religion was set into play to keep people pure and follow rules so the world wouldn't be such a messed up place like it is today?
	Wait, so are you?
	Is that like a affirmative, like a positive statement towards religion, like you think?
	Yeah, I think I think religion was a positive thing because it kind of made people have morals.
	I see um, like I was raised with morals, you know manners.
	Now, in this generation, a lot of people don't even have manners.
	Like when I house those two people in my crib.
	I like to have, like friends, family dinner.
	If i'm cooking, you're not eating the plate, so everyone has a plate like we're supposed to eat together, like family uh-huh um, and I feel like religion is set in play because you know marriage kids, you know cook clean, like a lot of things have gotten lost because, if you notice, a lot of people aren't really religious anymore.
	There is still religious people, but a lot of things are just crazy now in my opinion.
	So do you think it's fucked up on both ends, like men are fucking up and women are fucking up, or is it mostly men?
	Because you said like no, i'm on both ends, because when I think of chivalry, that's usually something the Man does.
	Like, that's the man doing something.
	It does, but now there's women doing chivory.
	They're taking care of man-childs, and the men aren't even working and just staying home all day, recording music, talking a bunch of gibberish.
	I don't, that's not sexy, though.
	Like, when women take care of men.
	Well, I know it's not even sexier getting played, and I don't have a kid, but imagine you're dating a man, and you have a kid from someone else, and you're taking care of like two kids, and you're just getting played and finessed and used.
	That's worse.
	No, that is not sexy.
	Yeah.
	I think a woman likes you more, though, if she's being a simp.
	Like, if she's going so far.
	What I'm saying is, she's doing all that.
	She's paying for shit for a guy.
	She probably likes the guy a lot.
	100%.
	That's so kind of out of the, I think, the natural order of things for a woman.
	She's got a, I mean, it's a good sign for the guy.
	I think.
	But what if the guy doesn't want her?
	Because that happens now.
	Some people just be with.
	I know people that are dating 304s and they're okay leaving as long as they're getting a monthly allowance.
	Wait, the guy gets an allowance from the woman.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	And I know someone right now that's dating a 304, adds and all, and he leaves the crib when she got someone.
	And oh, wait, she's.
	Sorry, he leaves when she has.
	She's a prostitute.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Guys don't care, even dating a prostitute.
	So she's taking care of him.
	Yes.
	But she's a literal whore.
	And she brings men over to their shared house.
	Well, it's her crib.
	Her crib.
	He don't really have a crib.
	Bro just pops around it.
	And then she fucks the marks or whatever they're called in her bed.
	Does she do the sheets after at least?
	I don't know about that.
	I don't know about that.
	I just found out bro was dating a 304 recently.
	That's that's an echo for everybody involved.
	Although that would be if it was the reverse, like if it was the guy, like he was a male prostitute.
	What the fuck?
	He probably would be too, though.
	Huh?
	He probably would have no problem doing the same if he could get paid for it.
	This is not a really common phenomenon at all.
	This is like, yeah, it happens, but it's like.
	I feel like it only happens in LA where I'm from in Jersey and New York.
	We have family morals.
	Yeah, no.
	We have mobs labeled a whole lot.
	A lot.
	So I know way too many guys that are not.
	It's not common.
	It's very common because I know five of them.
	They are getting fully paid for and they pretend that they don't care about the other, whatever she's got going on because they are getting paid.
	They get a free house.
	They get free food.
	They basically are just living.
	They're hobosexuals.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	This is not common.
	It's not common.
	It's not supposed to be.
	No, but it's not common.
	Fortunately, it's becoming a lot more common.
	That's really.
	I don't think that.
	I don't even know if it's worth talking about because of how rare it is, though.
	Yeah, like I acknowledge it.
	Like, yeah, there's these dudes who are kind of probably weird, living off their sex worker girlfriend because she's making a fuck ton of money.
	It might not even be tons of money.
	Apparently, he's not even getting paid that much.
	Some people are happy with the bare minimum.
	Vice versa, even in relationships.
	Women got to stop dating homeless men.
	Like, cut that shit out.
	Literally, you can't be dealing with him.
	But what if they're not homeless?
	What if there's other metrics?
	I only gave a younger person a chance because the thing that I've realized, why is it a 30-year-old or a 31-year-old has the same that, I don't know, a 24-25-year-old has.
	Wait, has the same what?
	The younger person might have more money than the older person.
	The older person has nothing, and they're homie hopping from crib to crib, like and just wants to make it big as some rapper or something.
	Listen, let me help you ladies out.
	I don't care what kind of music you fucking like.
	I don't care if rap cloud shit.
	I don't care if you love fucking Kendrick Lamar, whatever bullshit.
	Word of advice: I don't care how successful of a rapper he is or how unsuccessful a rapper he is.
	If he's a rapper, you just run away.
	Don't deal with him.
	If he has face tattoos, don't deal with him.
	I like tattoos.
	I don't care.
	Like, it's literally pattern recognition.
	Rappers, probably not the guy who's gonna be like the good boyfriend.
	Face tattoo, probably not gonna be the guy with the who's gonna be the good boyfriend.
	Then I guess I might go back to Austin, Texas, and go date these new age emo cowboys that have face tattoos and they don't do rap music.
	It depends.
	Depends what they do.
	Everything's different.
	Look, as women, if you just have a blanket ban on face tattoos, I don't think that that's gonna preclude you.
	Like, that's not gonna be like the thing that prevents you from finding a good relationship.
	So it's gonna be the thing that maybe protects you from bad dudes.
	So, all people with tattoos you think are bad?
	Because some people are.
	What did I say?
	Repeat back to me what I said.
	I forgot already.
	No, no, no, repeat it back to me.
	I have an attention span of Dory.
	I literally just said it.
	Repeat it back.
	Wait, what?
	Repeat back my position.
	I'm Dory.
	I don't care.
	Repeat back my position.
	Wait, are you just not listening to the conversation?
	No, I suffer from short-term memory loss.
	I'm Dory.
	Are you taking ketamine?
	Is that what's going on?
	No, no.
	You could drug test me right now.
	We're going to get a test.
	Damien, fucking get the test.
	Okay, I got a pee.
	Actually, get a good COVID test, too.
	We need to.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, no.
	That's crazy.
	I said face tattoos.
	Yes.
	I didn't say tattoos.
	Although, you know what?
	Sure.
	I have a face tattoo, so I should stay away from her.
	Are you trying to fuck her?
	No.
	She wanted to date me, but I didn't date her before.
	So does that mean she's bad?
	Because she's not.
	What do you mean?
	I'm not.
	Look, let me explain the logic here.
	I do get your logic.
	Well, hold on.
	Can somebody be fully blasted in tattoos and be like a fantastic person?
	Yes, absolutely.
	You could be all sorts of things and still be a really good person.
	My thing is, is that I just believe in pattern recognition.
	I think you just save your time.
	Like, I'm not going to, if I see a girl who's got lip filler, giant fake titties, BBL, lipo belly, and just blasted in tattoos, I'm just, I'm not interested.
	She's an automatic pass because I'm just, I'm interested in pattern recognition.
	There's a lot of women out there who have either minimal tattoos or no tattoos.
	I can deal with them.
	But if I were a guessing man, I'll let you come in just a second.
	If I were a betting man, I think more likely than not, somebody who does have face tattoos I'm trying to think what the correct wording here would be.
	I'm just going to pass.
	Just going to pass.
	I'm going to pass.
	I'm going to pass.
	Oh, my God.
	I just feel like, look, I could be totally wrong, but I do think when it comes to tattoos, and I'll date a girl who has tattoos, but there's, I guess, the amount of tattoos they have, that could be a determining factor.
	Like a girl with a little heart tattoo on her inner wrist.
	Okay, don't care.
	Fine, whatever.
	But a girl with like totally blasted neck tattoos, face tattoos, I'm going to start making some judgments and guesses.
	I could be wrong, but here's the judgment.
	She has mental illness.
	She has trauma.
	She has baggage.
	Potential drug use, potential alcohol use.
	I could be wrong, but pattern recognition would indicate that I'm probably right.
	Now, you could be somebody who has all those tattoos and none of that applies, right?
	But you got to understand, like, people are going to make those sort of snap judgments.
	Like, if I see somebody with the spider web tattoo on their fucking elbow, I'm like, drugs, prison.
	I'm sorry.
	Am I wrong?
	That was the belief in the spirit of mine back in the day.
	No, that tattoo was a jail tap.
	But now I'm just saying somebody who has the elbow tattoo with the spider web, drugs or jail.
	And if it's a guy, probably both.
	Or some people just trying to fit in now because if it's a chick, probably drugs.
	And I and I've been pattern recognition.
	I've been correct on that.
	Okay.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Sorry, whatever.
	Q, you have something I need to look for a sec.
	Yeah, I think, well, I think the panel was interesting tonight, but we got a couple psych majors and a lot.
	Yeah, so are any of you familiar with the concept of assortative mating?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so your dating reality probably reflects what y'all value and how y'all are.
	So when y'all say something is common, it's not that common.
	I mean, do y'all consider y'allselves the average woman with the way that y'all behave and carry yourselves or the circles that you roll in?
	So you probably, like your preference, would you say the cowboy with the face tats?
	Like how many guys?
	I honestly, to be honest, so yeah, I am attracted to dudes with tattoos and stuff like that, but I have dated people that necessarily weren't the most attractive, but I found them mentally attractive.
	Like I could see someone that's hot as hot as fuck, but if I don't find them mentally attractive, I don't like them.
	Like I actually judge the person based on who they are.
	Yeah, yeah, that's that's fine.
	I mean, that's fine.
	I can relate to that too.
	But I'm just curious when y'all say like, oh, you know, this is prevalent, this is common, or, you know, I know people like this.
	Don't you think that's more reflective of just the circles y'all ride in as opposed to like which is why I'm getting out of the circle.
	That's very true.
	That's a good point.
	Changing my circle.
	Different people.
	Absolutely.
	Like birds of a feather flock together.
	We talk, her and I talk about this a lot.
	It's, I isolated for a really long time recently and then put myself back in school, did all that.
	And when I came back out and started meeting people, I saw the same patterns and it was the same thing.
	And that's why I still don't talk to many people.
	I started making new friends at school, trying to make it a new circle.
	And it is a reflection of my transition as well.
	Absolutely.
	As soon as you change whatever you're into, whatever you like, things about yourself personality-wise, absolutely.
	It changes your circle.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's absolutely a reflection.
	Yeah, but I, but I also think that there are certain things that it's been found on average women look for.
	You know, men and women.
	Like, are you familiar with evolutionary psychology?
	That's what I specialize in.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	So women tend to, on average, look for resources and partners.
	And men, on average, tend to look for like physical attractiveness, youthfulness.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I'd say that that's, that's why I thought that when everyone was bringing up the issue earlier of like kind of taking care of a man as a woman, I mean, I do think of my relationships as egalitarian, but to be honest, like, I don't think that if it's unbalanced either way, like, I don't want like a father figure or anything like that in my relationship, like a guy who's like totally taking care of me.
	I mean, if he's making a little bit more than I am, then I think that that's fine.
	You know, it's like it's been found that men mate across and down, and then women mate across and up.
	But, you know, I would be lying if I said that, you know, I would ever go out with a guy who has like nothing going on.
	Well, like, no job.
	I don't mean to interrupt you, but he has no job, no income, no interests.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, that's not sexy to me.
	Right.
	I mean, that wouldn't be sexy to most women because that doesn't provide any benefits.
	Evolutionary sex.
	Right, right.
	But I do see it is more prevalent now, especially in like Western cultures.
	And the interesting thing about it, what if I introduced you to a novel idea, such as, well, if evolutionary psychology is a thing and it's valid, then of course we're still evolving our evolutionary psyches.
	So that means if society is adopting feminism, sexual liberation, women making their own money, women are attracted to things men did because that's the state of the societies that they've evolved in.
	So we could be just adjusting to this newfounded women having jobs, making money.
	You know, we're finding out that women actually have the capacity to want to take care of men when they have their own money.
	They're not as stressed out.
	And I'm just saying that's a possible direction we could be going.
	And that's why you see it.
	It's more prevalent, like in America and in Europe where women, you know, sent for men more and aren't, if they got money, you know, hey, yeah, I'll take care of the bills because, I mean, we have the capacity to.
	You get what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	Like, I think that's a good explanation.
	And you'll probably see more of it as we continue ahead.
	And I feel like it really started being that way when women had more of an opportunity to make more money.
	You can almost see the shift exactly where it happened.
	And you're continuing to see that shift as women have more and more opportunities to really run a much bigger bag now than they did before.
	And that really is the difference.
	I was just talking to my mom about this this morning because my mom is newly single as well and datings and she's like my best friend.
	So we talk about it.
	And we were both kind of having the same issue where we would find people who are maybe making less money and they almost latch on.
	And when you think about it, women did the same to men.
	It's not like we never did that.
	It's not a new idea.
	It's just a role switch, I guess you could say.
	Yeah, because it's whatever is beneficial or advantageous.
	And if you like somebody, then whoever's in the best position to provide essentially is going to provide.
	And that's why, you know, more and more people pay 50-50 on bills.
	I mean, the majority of people who are married share bills.
	They split bills.
	I mean, the traditional guy who pays all the household bills and take care of everything, the stay-at-home mom, that's the outlier now.
	So, you know, it's just reflective of the state of our culture.
	Yeah, it really is.
	Let's see here.
	I don't know where we left off.
	I think we were talking about tattoos.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	I don't hate girls with tattoos.
	I don't hate women with tattoos.
	We wear a trauma on our sleeve.
	A little bit.
	I mean, that's just a lot of people.
	Sleeves and guys are hot colors because we're toxic.
	Guys with sleeves are hot.
	Especially if they're like real fit and they go to the gym.
	That's real hot.
	You need to get that.
	You need to get that.
	Like, tattoos tend to be a more masculine thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there are, like, tattoos that can be cutie or more girly, but I think the thing is, like, I think for women, I don't think all women are attracted to tattoos or men who have tattoos, but I think there's a large cohort of women who will view tattoos on men and it'll make them more attractive or more masculine.
	Right.
	That'll be the impression.
	Maybe, maybe not even more attractive, but it will make them more masculine.
	And whether a woman likes that or not, I'm unsure, but when it comes to tattoos on women, the assessment is kind of the same, but not in the terms of attractiveness.
	They think that tattoos make women more masculine.
	So they make men more masculine, they make women more masculine.
	And so typically, men are not attracted to masculinity in women.
	So if a tattoo masculinizes women, that's going to can very well make her less attractive to a man.
	Realistically, I would say that tattoos on a woman, I think for most men, it's going to be neutral or it's going to be a negative.
	Like most men, now there are men like who are parts of certain subcultures or maybe they're heavily tattooed themselves or they're actually using it as a pattern recognition to perhaps make a determination if I can manipulate this woman.
	I don't know if that's necessarily always the case.
	Well, it certainly isn't always the case.
	But I think, or they could be like, okay, she's more promiscuous.
	Like, and I think it'd be a fair assessment to say, like, a woman who's more heavily tattooed is likely to be more promiscuous.
	Whether that's true.
	No, it's true.
	It's a correlation.
	I do think there's a correlation because I don't think there's a lot of like if you had to bet the whole panel if a woman had neck tattoos, do you think she's a virgin?
	No, no, no.
	So I think, oh, sorry.
	She's got to make that thing.
	Fuck, I forgot about that.
	I was like, but she's also free-spirited.
	Yeah.
	I will not say that.
	Yes.
	Probably a correlation.
	Correlation, not causation.
	But no, if I see a woman who, or who's like heavily, it doesn't even have to be neck or head tattoos.
	She's got like full sleeves.
	And I'm like, she's not virgin.
	So, I mean, I can look at most, I can look at a woman without tattoos and be like, she's not a virgin.
	Wait, so you are attracted to that or no?
	What do you mean?
	If she had like a ton of tattoos, you wouldn't find that attractive, really?
	It depends.
	It really depends because there are some tattoos which I think are more aesthetically pleasing.
	It's the location.
	It's the design.
	Although, if I'm just being completely honest, so tattoos are not a deal breaker, but for me, it's strictly neutral or negative.
	So if you have a tattoo on you, it's never a positive.
	It's only neutral.
	I agree.
	I feel the same way.
	It's only neutral for the same way.
	I think part of that stems from self-respect.
	And when you have a certain degree of self-respect for yourself, you kind of have a stronger resilience and strength to say no to certain things because you're not acting out of instant gratification.
	You're not acting out of, you know, excitement or just like on a whim, I'm going to do this.
	And so I think that also shows men that there's a level of self-restraint when it comes to that woman if she maybe has less tattoos.
	Just like a different perspective.
	Yeah, no, there can definitely be deeper components there, like you just said.
	I think psychologically, sometimes I think, you know, as you said, pattern recognition is a big thing.
	But sometimes I think that psychologically, the brain can do the domino effect for you in a sense.
	Say to yourself, well, what kind of tattoo is this?
	Where did you get it?
	What led you to get this decision?
	How quick did you make that decision?
	And what other decisions do you make in that point?
	Like impulse control.
	Yeah.
	Instant gratification.
	Yeah.
	So, no, that is, that's definitely a really good point on that.
	We have to, let me think here.
	But just to be clear, tattoos are not a deal breaker.
	Like I have and would date a girl who has tattoos, but neutral or can be a negative.
	Can I add one more thing?
	Sure.
	I feel like, so historically, in lots of tribes, they also have markings or tattoos that are made for fighting, protection, you know.
	And these are markings to help people identify each other.
	There's like that news reporter with the mall in the middle in New Zealand.
	Yeah, what do you think about that?
	Well, I mean, people who belong to that culture, like it's probably going to be looked at and viewed a different way because there's a cultural basis.
	But like a girl who has like a chandelier sternum tattoo who's like white, she ain't, what tribe is she?
	Well, what kind of, I don't know.
	I mean, so your question is, like, if I was dating like a Native American, I don't know, is it, are tattoos as common among like Native Americans as they are in like like Brazilian tri like Latin American tribes or like in like the Maori in New Zealand, for example.
	If I was dating a woman who's a Maori, although, to be honest, they typically have face tattoos, which, while I like culturally, would respect, I don't personally find that like they have like the they put it on their cheek and I find that, at least in my own taste, aesthetically like not really appealing.
	But um, if she had like a Maori sleeve or something, or like Polynesian sleeve, I would probably interpret that specific tattoo a little bit differently versus somebody who has, like a white girl, who has like traditional American tattoo you do know I'm talking about like all the little stamp pieces or whatever on her forearm I'd probably interpret it a little bit differently.
	Truth be told, I'm not running into like a lot of Native Americans or Maori women when I'm dating, but I, yeah sure, in that circumstance I'd probably interpret it a little differently.
	I guess okay yeah, you said like negative or neutral, so more neutral.
	Oh, it would still be neutral.
	Yeah, like it still wouldn't be positive.
	Okay, for me that's fair, but it would just be neutral.
	I'd have questions.
	You have no, I'd have questions like, even if I was dating like a Maori woman or anybody tribal from a different culture, I would just want to understand like, what's the significance of those markings and you know why they have them.
	And then, of course, through explanation, I could probably be like, oh okay yeah, so you know.
	I have a question, yes, would you date Amber Rose?
	No okay, so let's ask.
	I don't think a lot of men really find her oh, and now it has a huge head tattoo on her.
	Oh she, she does, what is she doing?
	And I don't know if she has above her head the father of her, like second child, is now with Cher, so he's like oh, my god, that's a huge age gap relationship right there.
	Who here has tattoos?
	Just show of hands.
	Q, do you have any tattoos?
	All of us.
	No.
	I think all.
	You don't have tattoos.
	No.
	Mine's the only one you see.
	My low-risk one.
	The one where you're like, oh, she has a heart.
	What is that?
	The Trinity?
	Yeah, it's the Trinity Not.
	It's the only one I plan to get as well.
	Yeah, but like, most guys are not going to, like, I can't imagine guys are going to view something like that in the negative.
	Maybe for them it's just neutral, but yeah.
	What tattoo do you have?
	So I have three that are hidden purposely.
	I have my first tattoo is a rose like on my groin area.
	That's pretty basic.
	On the groin area.
	Like the pelvis area.
	Okay, a rose.
	Yeah.
	That was my first one.
	Why?
	Thank you.
	Just curious why.
	I don't know.
	I just thought it was really cute in the location as well.
	And it took me like three to five years to get a tattoo.
	And I'm like, I really want this.
	I just thought it was really adorable.
	What's the other one?
	I have like a son with the wave on my side boob.
	It was supposed to be a best friend tattoo.
	And my third tattoo is my biggest tattoo.
	Is it on the back?
	No, I want to see my tattoos.
	So I have a tiger from my hip down to like my thigh, and it's climbing up with like red streaks on it.
	Okay.
	So I thought that was very feminine.
	I don't know.
	I just thought it's pretty cool.
	I mean, I don't know precisely what they look like, but I think, like, for me, I think that would probably be in like the neutral territory.
	Like, I don't think that's to the point where it's super excessive or anything.
	So, yeah.
	Q, did you have something on?
	Or wait, you were asking?
	Oh, no, you asked about Amber Rose.
	Yeah, she has what I date.
	Yeah, that's right.
	No, hell no.
	Chat, we have a very short segment here called, This is for the viewers in our show.
	Oh, no.
	Would you date this woman?
	So me and Q are going to answer this, and you get to answer it.
	Who hears by?
	Any other bi women?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's pull it up.
	All right.
	Would you, chat?
	Would you date this woman?
	Yeah, the one I, yeah.
	Okay.
	Audio?
	No audio.
	Okay.
	Hungry.
	Oh, that was a doll.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	That looks like some kind of AI.
	Wait.
	That looks like AI.
	No, it's real.
	She's real.
	She is.
	No, she's real.
	She's Re's real.
	Would you date her?
	I'll start first.
	Yes.
	With conditions.
	But just kidding.
	Yes.
	Q, would you date her?
	Fuck no.
	Why?
	You pig?
	How dare you?
	I like to look at my woman.
	During Coitis.
	You can still.
	During what?
	During Coitis.
	During Coitis.
	There's other positions.
	No, no.
	The act.
	During the act, yeah, I know.
	Yeah, well, no, no, I can't.
	There's mass.
	Paper bag.
	The blood ain't gonna flow.
	No.
	It really?
	Yeah, the blood ain't gonna flow.
	What about the bottom half?
	Would that, were you sold?
	I might just be thinking about the top.
	No, but if the top is I do not believe that I would date her?
	I don't believe that.
	Hey, she's stacked, okay?
	Is that a Ma for thing in anything?
	I'm just saying.
	No, so.
	What are you saying?
	What are you saying about her?
	You're being a little misogynistic right now.
	I guess I am.
	I'll own up to it.
	Beautiful.
	Everyone judges.
	I'm not perfect.
	I know I'm not perfect.
	Maybe she's a great girl.
	There's a lot of great women, and a lot of great women also get played.
	Chat, would you date her?
	So would you date her?
	No.
	Why?
	I thought, no, you don't like Asian women?
	Are you racist?
	No, she looks like a mannequin.
	No, she's real.
	Yeah, but that's why I was, no.
	Uh.
	You're buying too?
	Yes.
	Would you date her?
	No.
	Would you date her?
	I would give her a chance to get to know her, but.
	Oh.
	But.
	But I'm not, I'll see, I'll see.
	Wow.
	What if she paid you?
	I'm like the only one who's not superficial.
	Well, Brian, why would you date me?
	Based off in that video, she's really smart.
	You know, she looks really smart.
	She looks smart, you know, nice.
	That was a movie.
	Look.
	I don't want it in this one.
	You know, with a bit of dental work, she.
	A bit.
	Just a clean.
	I think she's attractive.
	Damien, would you date her if you were single?
	Oh, yeah.
	What the hell?
	She's so excited.
	She's like excited about it.
	Very enthusiastic.
	Chat, would you date her?
	Yes or no?
	Yes or no?
	I would.
	She doesn't even have to.
	You know what?
	You know what?
	Here's.
	She doesn't even have to fix the shit.
	I'll still date her.
	She doesn't have to fix it.
	I will still date her.
	I do not believe this.
	I feel like you'd be married by now.
	I agree.
	If I would.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't think you're respectfully.
	I don't think your standards are that low.
	I'm sorry.
	Respectfully.
	I feel like you guys are being really mean to her.
	I feel like you'd be married by now.
	No, because you always ask us what we'd rate each other.
	Yeah, but like it balances out.
	Like you don't strike me as a marrying type.
	The body's good.
	Is that all?
	That just shows.
	Exactly.
	I care about more than just the body, but what I'm saying is, like, sometimes certain qualities about a person make up for other detriments.
	In this, yeah.
	I don't believe that one bit.
	If you look like this, please slide into his DMs.
	Look, maybe she was in a terrible train accident when she was younger.
	I don't know if she was.
	And so I don't know.
	That probably won't get passed down to your kids.
	I think.
	So we're good.
	What's passed down?
	I don't know.
	Isn't that like she has a gen, it's a genetic deform.
	Her body looks okay.
	So it might just be, I don't know.
	That's a little more than cleft lip.
	She's hot, to be honest.
	The body.
	Everything.
	Total package.
	I feel like if you're weird, I don't know.
	If you're in a relationship with that, I feel like you'd throw a mask on it at that point in my life.
	I would look at her real dollar eyes and tell her I love her smile.
	Oh, that's.
	I don't believe that.
	I'm serious.
	I believe it only because, sorry, only because I feel like with girls, sometimes they'll think a guy's attractive because he has like big muscles or they have some of those features, right?
	Or maybe like tattoos is their thing.
	So, oh, this guy's more attractive because he's tattoos, but maybe his face isn't like it.
	You know what I mean?
	And that might, so that's why I, you know.
	There's an extent, though.
	I ain't built for that.
	I ain't built for that.
	I ain't built for that as a guy.
	Her body is straight, but I can't.
	If I'm the only thing about her face, then it's pointless.
	She just negated her body by the way that she looks in the face.
	So cute.
	Okay.
	Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
	That is true.
	It is true.
	That means all the girls will say they're tens on here.
	That means, I guess, they're tons.
	Debated.
	No, I'm just saying.
	Wait, Brian, what would you rate her?
	I would date her.
	What do I rate her?
	Yeah, what do you rate her?
	Because you always go around the table and rate people.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, this is going to be good.
	Well, I'd have to break it down.
	Like, body.
	That's a solid.
	The body's a solid nine.
	No, but I'm not going to be able to do that.
	The body's a solid nine.
	Yeah.
	Total package.
	She's a 10, right?
	No.
	She's attract.
	She's attractive.
	I would date her, though.
	We're on the spectrum of the total population of everyone in the world because that's what she was.
	No, I would genuinely date her.
	But what is she on the rating scale out of everyone in the whole entire world?
	Oh, God.
	It's, you know, I give her, I give her a six, maybe a seven.
	Okay.
	Look, the body is average.
	I think that's slightly above average.
	I think that's a very if you look up that rating scale, it'll actually show photos from like who's the hottest to the lowest.
	And no offense, she would not be on the six.
	Like, I've actually looked it up.
	But that's judging face.
	I'm talking total package face body.
	Would you date her with eight cups?
	Sure.
	What about nobody?
	Just amazing.
	It's flat.
	Just flat, like plank from Ed and Eddie, Ed Eden Eddie.
	How about like an average female body?
	I feel like that's fair.
	Yeah, sure.
	Average female body.
	Oh, wait, but then she's overweight.
	Average attractive female body.
	Yeah, what if she was overweight?
	What if she was 300 pounds?
	Average healthy BMI female body.
	How about that?
	Is that fair?
	Okay, so she's not like fucking insane, curves, whatever.
	Do you know what the new average number now is in America for weight?
	No, but I just said like healthy BMI.
	Average body within the healthy BMI.
	Yeah, sure.
	I'll still date her.
	Why not?
	Okay.
	Maybe she has a large labia.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Wow.
	What if she has?
	Anybody here have a sound like what?
	A large labia?
	Large labia?
	Huh?
	Who's number five?
	Anybody?
	Okay, whatever.
	I'm the one.
	All right, moving on to the next thing, I guess.
	Oh, let's do another React.
	Next one.
	Instagram?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	We might have to refresh it really quick because it's not going to play from.
	No, but here, refresh it, but you have to hit pause like immediately.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Audio?
	Who is worse?
	A man who rejects a woman because she's overweight or a woman who rejects a man because he's short?
	A man rejecting a woman that's overweight because like you like okay.
	So going around the table, what's worse?
	A man rejecting a woman because she's overweight or a woman rejecting a man because she's short?
	Huh.
	Into the mic.
	Scoot into the table.
	Scoot.
	A man rejecting a woman because hormones and periods and bloating and pregnancy.
	That's my key.
	That's worse than the woman.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I would say a woman that's overweight.
	A man rejecting a woman is worse.
	Yeah, same.
	Agree?
	I feel like it's equal, if I'm being honest.
	Equal, okay.
	I don't think either of them are wrong because people are allowed to have their preferences.
	But I think probably worse.
	Yes, I think it would probably be worse to reject a man for his height because how can you fix your height in any capacity?
	You can.
	I also have to say the man in the height situation because you're dealing with like a health situation.
	So like he's technically not unhealthy.
	And technically that could bring potential health benefits, especially if you want children.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	Like say like a guy wanted to have children with a girl that might be overweight.
	So it could affect their future children genetically.
	And I guess the same thing with height, but at the same time, it's not something that's going to cause actual health.
	So looking at a familial sense.
	What about you?
	Rejecting a man for height.
	Okay.
	I would say it's equal.
	Equal.
	Q, what do you think?
	Rejecting a man for height.
	I agree.
	I would agree.
	Why do you, I think some of you, you three said that worse to reject a woman for her weight.
	And I think you said equal, I believe.
	Why?
	Well, I see.
	I feel like hormones and pregnancy and all that.
	Thyroid is thyroid issues.
	And you know what?
	I changed my answer.
	I'd say they're both equal.
	I think it's worse, though.
	I mean, because here's why.
	What if they have a health issue?
	Men can't do anything about their height.
	Women, you can control your weight.
	What if there's a health issue?
	Because there's some people that do have health issues, like thyroid problems, sleep disorders.
	I think there's like some hormonal issue.
	There are some weight issue factors for those.
	I do know the thyroid issue.
	I mean, I have hypothetical.
	I have mild hypothyroidism.
	Are you taking the medication?
	Yeah.
	Has it gotten down?
	But the thing is, though, is that if my diet is proper, it makes it a little bit harder for me.
	But if my diet is good, I can lose weight.
	No, that's true.
	And for like, honestly, my current dad-bod situation is more so just is not related to that at all because for most of my life, I've been pretty thin and fit.
	That's more just like stress-related.
	It's way more stress-related than anything to do with the thyroid.
	But look, there are certain medical conditions that can make it harder, but like those are really, really rare.
	Especially in terms of the people who are overweight or who are obese, it's really strictly related to their diet.
	If they ate better, that's not true with narcolepsy.
	What do you mean?
	People that have narcolepsy, it doesn't matter what they eat, they'll actually be heavier than a normal person.
	You can look it up online.
	How many people have narcolepsy?
	And do all overweight people have narcolepsy?
	No.
	Okay.
	So even here, I'll just go ahead and say, yes, every single person who has narcolepsy is obese.
	I don't think that's the case, but let's just grant it.
	If we just remove all those narcoleptics from the pool of obese people, that still leaves like a massive amount of obese people where it just is strictly to diet.
	But it's also a problem with the U.S. food as well, because if you look at the new average weight for most women, and you can look this up, the average weight for most women is actually 170.
	If you look it up on Google.
	Look it up on Google.
	Yeah.
	What is the average weight for women?
	No, I know.
	In the U.S., on Google, it'll say 170.
	I don't think that's a healthy weight, though.
	It's not a healthy weight, but why is it average?
	Why are multiple women in the United States that weight?
	It comes down to food, where we're getting it from, a lot of things.
	Yeah, but people have choice.
	People have agency.
	People choose to eat unhealthy foods.
	They choose to eat a lot of food.
	I agree with you that there certainly should be a look taken at the processed foods in America.
	Like, it's obviously really bad.
	All the sugar, that's terrible, right?
	But people, even if these are available for purchase, I think people still need to take responsibility.
	No, it's true.
	Yeah.
	But some people also, you know, money issues.
	Eggs are expensive now.
	That's a healthy option, but eggs are like gold now.
	That's fine.
	But in any case, the prompt is, I do think because women can't do have quite a bit of control, I understand that there are these factors that can contribute, whether there's specific health things that make it harder.
	The diet, the average diet in America is fucking terrible.
	I agree with you, but as a woman, you have a choice when it comes to what you eat.
	Yeah.
	So, I think, I don't know, judging somebody based off something they can't control seems a bit more superstific.
	I'm going to say it's equal, though, in my opinion.
	Anyways, next thing, let's do another React.
	Here, I'm going to do one read.
	Blah Fest, who wants to read this?
	Let's do it, let's have you read it.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So it's a little hard to read with white, but I use lessons based in astrology for my own personal pattern recognition skills, too, Brian.
	I have learned that if someone is interested in astrology, I'm not interested in them.
	Oh, it works so well.
	It works so well.
	Thank you, Blafest.
	Yeah, that's who here believes in astrology?
	It's a science.
	50-50.
	It is nuts.
	It's a science.
	It is nuts.
	I think it's a cool, fun thing for people to do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think it adds a little spice, but it's not like 100%.
	Maybe taking like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of 50-50.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Salk says, who in here saw Smile 2?
	Is that a movie?
	Yeah.
	Who's the first one?
	What is that?
	I'm a horror movie, Buff.
	It's a scary movie.
	Wait, Smiley?
	Is that what he says?
	Smiley Smile 2.
	Oh, Smile.
	It's creepy.
	Is that the one with the flush face and like a carved smile?
	No, it's just like if you had a creepy smile and then you just hold it up, Damien?
	You know?
	You die.
	Yeah, let's.
	Yeah.
	Play it.
	Hi, my name is Jillian.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm from Canada.
	The highest level of education completed was high school.
	I decided not to go to college.
	And I said I'm single, right?
	I don't leave the house that much, but what I do.
	I listen to live jazz music.
	I play sports on the beach.
	I play a lot of sports.
	Maybe.
	I go to the farmer's market on Sundays.
	I go to church.
	Don't give too much of a peace.
	She's telling you where to find them.
	She's telling you where to find them.
	I literally don't know where to find them.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Hollywood.
	I am a certified tax advisor.
	I specialize in accreditation.
	Hi, my name is Jillian.
	Specialized?
	Wait, so the question for the panel here is: if you're thinking of men, which of those two women do you think the men would prefer?
	The first one or the second one?
	Starting with you?
	Definitely the first one.
	It's hard to say.
	Don't overthink it.
	No, I'm not.
	Hard to say.
	Neither.
	Because some guys might not want to ruin a chick like that because she's too pure and too innocent.
	That might be the exact reason they do want it, though.
	But that too as well could take advantage and also ruin her.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	The first one.
	First one?
	First one.
	Definitely the first one.
	I definitely think the first one as well.
	Definitely the first one.
	Agreed on that.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	They're pretty good.
	Yeah.
	They're pretty good.
	Now, do you guys, I guess to make a point of it, do you guys think that generally speaking, like men have a tendency to prefer more, I guess, soft women like that versus a woman who's maybe a bit more rough, boss babe, this sort of thing?
	Yeah.
	Do you guys think men prefer boss babes or like kind of more demure women like that?
	Demir women.
	I feel like some guys don't like a lot of guys don't like loud chicks.
	Like you know, like their voices is very loud, the aggressiveness.
	Some guys can be scared of that as well.
	Even if you're masculine, they just don't like that energy that you bring to the table.
	Sure.
	So I hear that a lot from guys.
	Let's, oh, sorry, go ahead.
	I was just going to say that I think a lot of time, whether we realize it or not, subconsciously, like as females, we're always looking for more of like a masculine or like just somebody that can provide for us in a sense.
	And I think men do the same thing, whether it's conscious or subconscious, where they're looking for somebody to kind of take care of them as well, but in a more nurturing way.
	And I think maybe the soft girl kind of gives that vibe to them more than maybe a girl who's working because she wouldn't have time for his needs, where maybe a girl that was more slow-paced and more demure would have more time for him and the things he feels he needs.
	So, yeah, I know.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	We're going to do one more Rea and then we're going to get into some more show notes.
	Let's do the next one.
	Oh.
	Let's save it for the bow video.
	But I think I pulled up, hold up one.
	Is there one other one?
	There's a YouTube YouTube one.
	Let's save.
	We're going to save that one for later.
	We'll save it for later.
	Here, we're going to do stiffer, though, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You can't pick seven, starting with you.
	Own looks.
	Okay.
	One to ten.
	Some days I'm like, oh, I can't.
	Wait, actually, I want to do something a little bit different for this.
	Okay, okay.
	I want to do it a little different.
	On the count of three, on the count of three, you're all going to do this at the same time.
	On your hands, you're going to show your, you're just going to lift up your fingers, okay?
	At the exact same time.
	So this would be 10, this would be 5, this would be 7, however you want to do it.
	But if you have a point number, you got it.
	Round.
	Round up or down to whatever you think is appropriate.
	Okay.
	You can't pick seven.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You guys get you guys all got it?
	All got in your head?
	All right.
	Three, two, one.
	Hold them up.
	Don't change them.
	Okay.
	So, six, six, six, eight, six, six, eight, six.
	Wait, so eight, eight.
	Everybody else was six, right?
	Yeah.
	Eight, eight, six.
	Oh, Q, one buddy.
	Five.
	Five?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I give myself a five also.
	Wow, okay, pretty reasonable.
	I want to hear from the two most attractive women on the panel.
	Eight and eight.
	Can you boost the audio a bit?
	You can be Tell us.
	Tell us.
	Yeah.
	So do you disagree with the other women on the panel?
	Like, do you think they rated themselves too low?
	What do you think?
	No, I think that you guys are very humble and you're rating yourselves a little low, I'd say.
	You know, I think that maybe you could be a little bit higher for sure.
	But I, you know, I mean, six, I feel like, so that would be like a little over average.
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't, I think that you're prettier than that, you know?
	That's what I'd say.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, you're welcome.
	Okay, sure.
	Okay.
	And then also your thoughts, like, do you think the women rating themselves too low or you think about right?
	However, they feel.
	It's our own opinion on ourselves.
	Okay.
	Does your guys' anybody's answers change if the question changes to not what you rate yourself, but if there's a room of a thousand men and they're rating you, would you hold up a different number?
	Would you think it's higher?
	Would you think it's lower?
	Same.
	Okay, so got a thousand guys, average would give you eight, and then no, I'd say ten in that case.
	And I would say it, I would say it because men just, okay.
	You are gonna say, I know that you're gonna say that I'm not being humble when I say this, but men obsess over me.
	So are they all from my head?
	Wait, hold on.
	So hold on.
	I'm just gonna recap it.
	You tell me if I'm incorrect.
	You rated yourself an eight.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Men, if we were to put you in a room with a thousand men and we averaged out their answers, those men would give you 10.
	Yes.
	This is actually a first for this because typically women will give themselves a higher rating, but when they say, well, if men were rating me, I had it maybe a point down or whatever.
	So, but you would be a perfect 10 out of 10.
	And then I'm curious, though, if you were not in a room alone with a thousand men, but all these other women here were also in the room, would the men also rate them tens two, or would they rate them lower than you?
	No, I think that they probably would rate them as like nine or ten.
	Yeah.
	Because I think that men are very, like, they will have, I mean, look, like, I think that men, their standards are lower than women are, than the women's are, in many cases, when it comes to physical appearance.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know that you're probably going to get offended by that.
	Oh, I'm not offended.
	Oh, I'm far from offended.
	I'm a little bit amused.
	No, I mean, men, there are plenty of men out there who will have sex with like any woman.
	But let me ask you this question, and we're going to cut right to the chase.
	Do men only have sex with women who they think are tens?
	No.
	Yeah, good point.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Just because a man has sex with women.
	But in the moment, like, if he were, like, asked that, like, you know, in a room with, like, a thousand men or something, like, he would probably, like, simp.
	And he'd be like, oh, you're ten, you know?
	If the circumstances were that he, the...
	Not all men.
	The questioner was like beyond all of them.
	Yeah, maybe there are some men who would like genuinely simp, but if these men are instructed, like, hey, give us your honest rating.
	Wait, I'm curious to know what obsessing over you entails.
	Like, what do you mean when you say men obsess over you?
	I get like stalks.
	Like, you get rings to the menu.
	I get stalked a lot.
	Yeah, I get stalked a lot.
	Stalked.
	Yes.
	I'm not being articulate, craft.
	Yeah, right, right, right, right.
	No, I do.
	I do.
	And, you know, it's.
	By guys that you know or strangers?
	Both.
	Strangers stalked.
	I don't, yeah.
	Men that I just, I've never met them, but they see.
	Yeah, I know.
	You're laughing at me, but I mean, I know.
	I mean, strangers.
	Like desperate guys, like guys that have nothing else going on, obviously.
	They invest their time.
	Based off of desperate men.
	No, no.
	That's a low story.
	Not entirely.
	Not entirely.
	Not entirely based off of desperate men.
	But, you know, most guys out there, they're not going to, you know, they're not going to get the woman that they want.
	So the men proportion.
	The men are delusional, though, because you're like, hey, I'm an eight, but all these men think I'm a 10.
	Well, yeah, because I think that my intelligence actually is more important than my looks.
	But we're talking about looks.
	Yes, I know.
	But I'm saying that, but I'm saying that, you know, I'm always trying to work on myself, you know, and my physical appearance, you know, is part of that.
	I don't want to sound cocky and say, like, you know, that I'm a 10.
	Wait, oh, so you do think you're a 10.
	You just don't want to sound cocky.
	No.
	Because that's not like, I want to always be working on improving myself.
	If I were to just sit here and say that I'm a 10, then like there's nothing to work on, right?
	But just clarification.
	Like my physical appearance.
	A thousand men in a room, they're just rating you on your looks.
	The answer is 10, correct?
	Yeah, like, yeah, I'd say so.
	Because.
	Wait, is this like a hubris answer or is this a genuine answer?
	No.
	Like, legit.
	Men think that.
	This is not like a I'm being confident thing.
	Like, this is a genuine answer.
	Yes.
	No, like, I know that it's the reverse of what you've normally heard.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	Typically, women will acknowledge: oh, if it's men rating me, if they say they're seven, oh, okay, maybe like five or six, something like that.
	Like, I don't know.
	Men just think that I am like worth obsessing over.
	Like, many of them are not.
	I'm going to.
	I actually will just go ahead and grant that absolutely.
	Are there some men who are obsessed with you and think you're really attractive?
	Sure, probably.
	Have you had stalkers?
	Absolutely.
	I don't think your physical attractiveness precludes you, or lack thereof, precludes you from having stalkers.
	Like, that typically tends to manifest itself more just not even necessarily about how you look, but an established relationship typically with somebody.
	Although it sounds like you also have total strangers stalking you because they see you and they're like, I'm just going to stalk her.
	I think of stalkers typically like you dated somebody for a month and then like they will not take no for an answer and then they're going to harass you for like a year.
	Yeah, I mean, you could look at it that way too.
	So you're literally going to Trader Joe's and then like you get stalkers.
	Yeah.
	And men always look at me and that's not stalking, but I'm saying like I constantly receive male attention.
	Constantly.
	Don't dispute that you.
	I don't dispute that most women receive an abundance of male attention, be it romantic or sexual.
	I'm still just confused.
	Like, so you're saying because I receive this amount of male attention, it must mean I look this good.
	Is that the logic?
	I'm just trying to.
	Okay.
	You know what?
	Ready to be humbled.
	You know what's crazy?
	That girl with the tooth thing, she gets a lot of male attention too.
	I mean, her DMs are fucking crazy.
	She's a turn.
	She's a gospel.
	No, but she would be on your level because she also gets a lot of male attention, right?
	So do you think she's a 10?
	Because, like, let me ask you a question, right?
	No, men tell me.
	Men have told me.
	Wait, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me try to walk it through.
	So here's the logic.
	Here's the logic I'm following.
	This is your claim.
	I'm a 10 because I've had this proportion of male attention, right?
	I've had stalkers.
	I've had all the sexual and romantic attention from men.
	If that girl, if I could prove to you that that girl that I showed you earlier received just as much of these exact same attention as you did, you would then have to agree that she's also a 10, right?
	Because if that's your metric for I am a 10, I receive X amount of romantic and sexual attention.
	Anybody else who receives that exact same amount of attention also has to be a 10.
	Is that?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So is she a 10 then?
	That would be the logical.
	Yeah, I mean, that's the logic that you're arriving at.
	You know, I hadn't really thought about it in the depth that you have, you know.
	Sure.
	But I think that, you know, I mean, if you looked at it from that perspective, then yeah, you could argue.
	And what if I showed you a woman who you could definitively make a statement?
	She was a one, but this woman received just as much or more sexual and romantic attention as you.
	But she's a one.
	Would you then have to, how would you reconcile?
	I don't really look at it as just the attention that I've received is why.
	Like, it's not that variable alone.
	You know what I mean?
	It's many things.
	I've been told my whole life that I'm physically beautiful all the time.
	By my family members.
	You got to buy.
	You got to throw that in the trash.
	I know.
	I should.
	I should.
	I know.
	I know.
	I'm the most handsome in the world.
	I know.
	You make a good point.
	I don't have trouble.
	I don't have trouble either like getting men have told me that many times.
	Yeah.
	But like, here's the thing, right?
	Has a man ever lied to you to get laid?
	It did happen.
	Yeah.
	Just that one time.
	Okay.
	Do you think, how about maybe not with you, but generally speaking, do you think men will try to flatter women to get laid?
	Yeah, they will.
	Will they compliment women to get laid?
	Yeah, they will.
	Will they lie to get laid?
	Yes, they will.
	I'm not going to sit here.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	Like, I'm not rating myself.
	I think that I can always work on my physical appearance.
	Like, I think that it's, you know what I'm saying?
	So I, but I have been told, like I said, by many different men that I'm physically beautiful.
	Are you happy?
	And they could be lying, but I'll let you in just $200.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	Many women are considered to men to be mobed.
	Some women on this panel fall into this category.
	Look, really quick, and I'll let you come in.
	I love that package.
	Thank you, Michael Jones, for the TTS.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Here's the thing, is I don't think it would go over well, like, to not tell a woman she's attractive.
	And if you're trying to date her or get her into bed, like, and I don't know if you ask the men, maybe you don't, but like, even if a woman asked you, like, oh, rate me, even if she asked you, like, rate me honestly, I don't think it's, like, the best move to be, like, you're kind of average-looking, and you could stand to lose a bit of weight.
	Like, that's not, I'm not speaking about you, by the way.
	I'm just saying in general.
	It's not going to go over well.
	Like, as a man, you're going to have to flatter a woman a little bit.
	Like, it's just not the polite thing to do.
	To not flatter them, you're saying?
	Yeah, like, it's not going to go over well.
	Like, instead of giving you a compliment of, oh, you're so beautiful, the guy's like, wow, you are so unremarkable.
	That's a good point.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you're so ugly or average.
	You never saw that.
	I'm such a lucky guy to be dating this completely average, unremarkable woman.
	You're the best, babe.
	Or you're, no, you're not even best.
	You're just average.
	You can't do that as a guy.
	There's some degree of flattery.
	No, yeah, of course there is.
	Like, I've had women say, oh, my God, Brian, you're so handsome.
	I'm like, shut up.
	Calm down, ladies.
	They're just trying to get in your pants.
	Exactly.
	I know what you guys are up to.
	I know.
	You're swimming in pussy.
	I know.
	Why did you say that?
	All you women, though, all you think about is one thing, and it's disgusting, okay?
	All you girls want, you want, like, sometimes, you know, you know, Q, like, they just, sometimes you just want to cuddle, but they're trying to flutter.
	Like, that's crazy.
	That is not true.
	I just want to talk over here.
	I'm a guy.
	I just want to talk.
	Why can't we just talk?
	Why can't we just talk and get to know each other a little bit?
	Y'all always come over.
	You just want one thing, and then I feel used.
	Like, I feel used, and like, I'm just a piece of meat, and you don't care about me.
	And I'm trying to talk to you, and you're not really listening.
	You're just wondering when you're going to get some dick.
	And I'm just trying to talk.
	I'm trying to have a connection.
	Go through it sometimes.
	And all y'all watching.
	All y'all want is sex.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's crazy.
	Y'all crazy.
	Let me tell you about the new dinosaur that was discovered today.
	Can we talk about it?
	That would be interesting.
	You kind of sounded feminine for a minute.
	For a minute, you just spoke what women want.
	You just sounded like women.
	Sorry.
	Other than that, I just want somebody who can get to know me.
	That's why I'm not going to be able to do it.
	Guys never talk like that ever.
	I want a girl.
	Like, God, y'all, man.
	You never talk about that.
	So you're not going to be a fan of it.
	Why haven't you found one in your opinion?
	Huh?
	Why haven't you found one in your opinion?
	If you haven't found that one, I don't think you're especially like he'd date her.
	I think you're a wild man and you just haven't accepted it.
	You need like many women.
	You, you're not like, you're not going to have a wife, are you?
	No, you're not.
	What do you mean?
	What does that mean?
	Like, Karina.
	Like, I feel like you're like, like, you should be more sexually open.
	Like, you should just have sex with who you want, right?
	I mean, shit.
	Would you do that?
	Like, would you live that lifestyle?
	Or you're looking for monogamy.
	I think it depends like who you want to attract.
	You know, like, right, Brian wants to attract a respectable, respectable woman.
	So that's kind of how he like portrays himself.
	Yeah.
	You know, kind of like, I want to get to know you, you get to know me.
	Yeah.
	Kind of thing.
	It just depends.
	I feel like who you're trying to attract.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Totally.
	Just degrees.
	That's great.
	What were we talking about?
	Oh, looks.
	We're doing the looks thing.
	Okay.
	Wait, here, I want all the girls to rate me.
	I won't be offended.
	You be brutally honest.
	I will not be mad.
	I won't insult you back or anything like that.
	Scale of one to ten.
	Go ahead.
	Twelve.
	Oh, come on.
	Come on.
	Here, give me, be honest.
	Come on.
	Looks on just looks.
	I would say six.
	Also based on your astrology sign, if you're a tourist, I guess it's six.
	Just looks.
	Just looks.
	No.
	Taurus.
	Okay.
	Seven.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	Tell it seven or an eight.
	All right.
	Six point five.
	Six point five.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	Five.
	Okay, cool.
	Wait, so I would be.
	What did you give me?
	Seven.
	Seven.
	Again, you're an eight, but men think you're a ten.
	So wait, you guys, you guys are settling for me.
	Damn.
	Get up.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	You have an okay Facebook if you went to the gym.
	Like, well, we could both use that.
	Oh, thanks.
	I'm just saying, I'm white.
	She told me I'm a little chubby.
	No.
	You're right, though.
	I need to go to the gym.
	Wait, what?
	You know, we'll go to the gym together.
	Should we do a side-by-side fit check?
	Yeah.
	We should.
	shh Okay.
	Why are you hand sweaty?
	She's wearing red gold today, and it's hot.
	Yeah, it's hot in here.
	I was like, you see this.
	And what else?
	Alora.
	So you just, like, if we were dating, you'd be like, kind of thinking, like, I'm doing this guy a favor.
	You know what I mean?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	All right, good talk.
	No, you know what I really like about you is that you like assert yourself.
	Like your behavior.
	Like you're very like in control of the room.
	Like let's say repersonality, you know?
	Oh, thank you.
	Yeah.
	I appreciate it.
	You know how to run a show.
	I try my best.
	I try my best.
	Oh, man.
	No, but I'm serious.
	I run this podcast with an iron face.
	All right.
	Oh, final thing on the rating thing.
	Do you think you'll look better in 10 years' time?
	So you're 25.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time?
	35?
	I'm like, yeah, I'm Asian, so.
	Yeah, Asian.
	What are you...
	Wait, I want to guess.
	Oh, yeah, guess.
	Your specific ethnicity?
	Nationality.
	Laos.
	Laos.
	No.
	No.
	Vietnamese?
	No.
	Oh, I'll just keep going then.
	Okay.
	Chinese?
	That's part of it.
	Oh, you're half?
	Yeah.
	Half China?
	Like, half.
	Both Asian?
	Like, 75 and 25.
	75 Chinese.
	Yeah.
	Mongolian.
	Is that 25?
	Ooh, that's close.
	Oh, close.
	Shit.
	Wait, it's close?
	Like, geographically.
	Shit.
	What?
	Tibet?
	Tibetan?
	Close.
	What?
	Siberian.
	Oh, Siberian.
	Oh, I would have never guessed that.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Oh, sorry.
	Will you be better looking in 20 years' time at 45?
	To you?
	You said better looking at 25 or 45?
	20 years' time at 20.
	Yeah, 45.
	Huh.
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 33 better looking in 10 years' time, 43?
	No.
	You're 33, were you better looking 10 years ago at 23?
	Yes.
	Okay, you're 30 better looking better looking in 10 years' time at 40.
	Yeah, I think I look better at 40.
	Okay, better looking in 20 years' time at 50.
	Probably not, no.
	Okay, just a little closer into the mic if you can.
	Probably not.
	And then it's fine.
	Were you better looking 10 years ago at 20?
	It really depends on how I dressed.
	Let's say same outfit.
	If you had the same exact outfit.
	Oh, I look exactly the same 10 years ago.
	I've been told I look exactly the same since middle school.
	So my face did not change.
	My body size hasn't changed since middle school?
	Oh, well, I mean, sorry, since high school, college.
	Like, middle school, my face has still been exactly my same.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Okay, so about the same then.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You're 24, better looking in 10 years' time, 34.
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 44.
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33.
	Probably.
	20 years' time, 43.
	I don't know if I'd say better looking, but that also wouldn't be my priority.
	I'd ideally have kids.
	So would you be the same?
	Probably.
	Look the same 43 to 23.
	Okay.
	You're 22 better looking in 10 years time, 32?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 29 better looking in 10 years' time, 39.
	Maybe.
	I think that maybe it would stay the same.
	Yeah.
	Okay, 20 years' time, 49.
	Versus 30.
	Probably not.
	No.
	Okay.
	So stay the same, though, 39.
	And then you're 29 now.
	Were you better looking 10 years ago at 19?
	No.
	So better looking?
	Better the same?
	No, probably.
	Well, maybe a little bit better looking, yeah.
	Just because of less lines on my face, you know.
	Less lines.
	Okay.
	And you're 24 better looking in 10 years' time at 34.
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 44.
	No, probably not.
	Okay, all right.
	Damien, do we have the age advance mints?
	Do we have gender swap too?
	Yes.
	Sweet.
	So fucking scary.
	Okay.
	Let's do it.
	All right.
	There you go.
	You said, did you say better looking?
	No, just 10 years forward.
	Okay.
	Yeah, 10 was like, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Let's do next.
	Oh, my God.
	Nice.
	Next.
	Oh, I like you also.
	This is so angry with the 50.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	Oh, that looks heavy.
	They did you dirty.
	Very dirty.
	They did you dirty.
	Nice smile, though.
	The smoke.
	Yeah.
	The smile stays good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Oh, when she's back, we'll do it.
	Next?
	Oh, no.
	Here I come.
	All right, next.
	Oh, my God.
	So many lines.
	Oh, boy.
	I know something.
	Okay.
	All right, next.
	I'm getting like two chints.
	Well, you turn holds.
	You look so nice in the first one and let the end.
	You look like a witch.
	Yeah, I look scary.
	Wicked witch of the U.S. National Guard.
	No, literally.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	Damn, they fucked you up, man.
	Oh, boy.
	They fucked you up, Q. 10 to 50.
	Holy shit, Darkavia.
	Oh, my God.
	I feel like our middle one is not that bad.
	Crazy.
	What are those involved in the middle?
	Next.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, my God.
	Don't fuck me up so bad.
	You guys really screwed me over here.
	Here, can you tab, do you know how to tab backward?
	Or just start at her again?
	Because I just, she wants to, we'll just tab each one like per second.
	Oh.
	This is you.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then, and then, wait, stay seated for just a second.
	Okay.
	And then, do we have gender swap?
	Yeah.
	All right, let's do that.
	I've done that.
	So now, guys, you're going to pick, you're going to tell me, would you date your looks gender swap?
	So this is you gender swap.
	Would you date the male version of you, basically?
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Okay.
	You look like you work in hibachi right now.
	They always have like the, I don't know.
	Yeah, like the bandana.
	You're like a.
	I worked at that.
	But, like, not Benihana, though.
	Like, one of those, it's not a change.
	It's a bootleg.
	It's not a chain.
	No.
	Benny Hibachi.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	Oh, yeah.
	Did Michael work the wrist?
	Yeah.
	Wrist.
	Because hibachi, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Jesus.
	That's crazy.
	Would you date the male version of you?
	No, because I don't like blondes.
	That looks like something.
	Next.
	Oh, gosh.
	No, do you date the male version of you guys?
	Definitely not.
	Really?
	Why do I have short hair?
	You don't like Asian guys?
	No, I don't.
	My boyfriend's white.
	I only date white guys.
	Interesting.
	Yes.
	What about you?
	You only date white guys?
	No.
	Have you dated Asian guys?
	Only one.
	Only one?
	Yeah.
	It's Oxford Study.
	Hello?
	Wait, you've never dated only white guys?
	Yeah.
	I'm attracted to like.
	Like Latinos.
	I'm attracted to, like, I'm not attracted to Asian guys.
	I'm attracted to like other.
	Why aren't you attracted to Asian people?
	I don't know.
	I think it was like the whole culture thing.
	Like, you know, my dad, who was like, I would rather you date like an Asian person.
	You said you're Cambodian?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Just like for the culture to keep it in.
	And I just like I didn't like that mindset that he had or just like in general.
	So I kind of like kind of diversified my dating pool.
	Diversified.
	Yeah.
	So I don't.
	Only dated white guys.
	Yeah, only date white guys.
	I mean, I've talked to black guys myself.
	And I did date a Spanish guy before.
	But white guys were a lot nicer to me.
	Do you speak Cambodian?
	I do speak a little bit Khmer.
	I can understand it just a little bit, but I can understand it.
	I just can't really speak it as much.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	Good times?
	Yep.
	Let's pull it back up.
	No.
	You went.
	Okay.
	Curly hair.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	What's he doing with his tongue over there?
	Would you date the male version?
	Why not?
	That's you, but a man.
	No.
	You don't like white guys?
	I don't, actually.
	Really?
	What's your type?
	I go for Russians, which I guess white.
	That's definitely white.
	But not ultra-white I'm not.
	You like black Russians?
	Hell yeah.
	Black Russian.
	Wait, do you prefer?
	You date black guys, though?
	Yeah.
	Is it black Russian?
	Black Russian.
	Yes, they are.
	Black Russian.
	You're out of me getting excited.
	Thomas is not black.
	He's Asian.
	He's Russian Asian.
	He's still running.
	He's Russian.
	He's Asian, though.
	Russian is a colour.
	About the knock-Irish.
	Black-Irish?
	I don't think I've ever black-Irish guy.
	A black-Irish guy.
	That'd be hot.
	It would be.
	All right.
	Next.
	Wow.
	You know what?
	The mouth.
	I feel like the mouth did it dirty.
	Looks like.
	I've done Leah so many times, and I. Would you date the male version of you?
	Like, just here, block off the mouth.
	It's handsome.
	He's handsome, kind of.
	I mean, yeah, he's not ugly, but you wouldn't hit?
	Well, I wouldn't.
	I don't just hit, but I wouldn't.
	No.
	No.
	Be in a long-term monogamous relationship?
	Probably not.
	I don't like beards.
	You like beards or you don't like beards?
	I don't really like beards that much.
	Oh, okay.
	Damn.
	Whoever does these, if you can, try to get them when they're not making a face, just because I feel it.
	Why was I talking directly at the camera?
	Okay, next.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, not blue.
	I was so fucking dingy.
	It's not bad.
	The male version of you.
	No, because it looks like my dad.
	Wait, pull up.
	Get the Instagram post of your dad.
	By the way, guys, if you're just tuning in, because there's new viewers who tuned in, she is the daughter of Eddie Guerrero, famous WWE professional wrestler, superstar, Rest in Peace, of course, R.I.P. Rest in Peace.
	I used to watch him when I was a kid.
	Actually, Eddie Guerrero, yeah.
	I stopped watching a long time ago, but he was active when I was watching in junior high school, like back then.
	So I'm trying to remember if I recall anything.
	Anyways, let's go back to it.
	Would you date the guy?
	No, he looks too much like my dad.
	It's a weird.
	Like, if the go-to, you should do it side by side.
	You went and date your look.
	Okay, that's fine.
	We're going to meet.
	Oh, my God.
	You know what?
	Actually, I'm kind of a trend.
	Not no.
	Not bad.
	I like the hair.
	He's got the flow.
	He's got the show going on.
	Yeah.
	He was a ho for show.
	Would you do it?
	Would you date him?
	Yeah, I'd date him.
	All right.
	Would you be settling for him, though?
	Like, is he kind of, you know, I'd have to look into the personality.
	Just looks alone.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Like, would you rate him on a scale of that?
	Yeah.
	Is this like reflective of my narcissism?
	Is that what you rate him on the scale of four to ten?
	Like, uh, see, it's me, so I have to say, like it's like a nine.
	Oh, all right, yeah.
	Next.
	Oh, did you say ooh?
	Yo, chat, she just said ooh.
	Instant goo.
	I don't know why it looks like somebody.
	I don't know who, but I don't know.
	I know.
	I would say me.
	That's you.
	That's true.
	That is me, yeah.
	But like, it looks like a.
	Maybe he had like different hair.
	Different hair.
	The hair is kind of fucked up.
	It is.
	It is kind of fucked up.
	It's a little nerdy, right?
	It is.
	It's giving nerd for sure.
	But what if he had like a fade?
	I think a fade, you know, that fade is good.
	The hair is a little fucked up.
	I will get, I will give you that.
	All right.
	Next.
	Of course.
	All right, next.
	Whoa.
	Okay.
	Darkavia, would you date the male version of you?
	Say it.
	Yes.
	She says yes.
	She would smash.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, the doll.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, that looks like a...
	Oh, wow. Yeah.
	Damn, I got fat.
	Whoa.
	What?
	Is that like a younger picture of you on the side?
	That's like 10 plus years old.
	Without the beard, we look so different.
	10 plus years old.
	Didn't you start this in like 2020?
	Oh, my gosh.
	No, the woman version of you looks so good.
	No, they like super.
	They took an old photo of me and then put it.
	They photoshopped it into me in the studio.
	Yeah, here, I'll show you even a really young.
	Damien, pull up that young photo of me with the blue shirt or whatever.
	Speaking, we have some chats coming too.
	You can pull that up.
	Damn.
	That's young.
	That's young Brian.
	Wow.
	Yep.
	Those were the days.
	I love the little ones.
	Those were the days.
	Okay, we have, let's see.
	Was that everything?
	Were there any other batches or that's it?
	Okay, we can close those out then.
	Wow, okay.
	You know, look.
	I'm just saying, aging is a thing.
	I feel like, though, if we lined up every woman on earth and we put y'all next to your male equivalent, 90% of y'all would be mortified.
	You'd be like, shit.
	That's fucked up, huh?
	No, probably.
	Yeah.
	You're not wrong.
	You'd be like, shit.
	Do I gotta reconsider some things?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Good look in the mirror.
	You got to take, yep, long, stare deep into your own eyes.
	Stare deep into your own eyes.
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	Why can't like average?
	Why can't if people are average, just be like, yeah, I'm average.
	You know what I mean?
	Agreed.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't.
	Yeah.
	It's also.
	You know what I mean?
	Ooh, thank you.
	It also gets, I think it has, like, to do with whether or not it's getting reinforced.
	Like, if someone is, like, telling the person that they're gorgeous, like, all the time, where a group of people are, a series of people, then, I mean, they could be the ugliest person on the planet.
	Like, it doesn't.
	If it's getting reinforced, the idea, then they're going to continue to think it.
	But I feel like there's a difference here between men and women because I think a lot of women will conflate sexual interest with long-term romantic or dating interest.
	Because men will sleep with a girl who we're not even all that physically attracted to.
	I'm not saying all men do this, but like men, we'll just like if a woman makes herself sexually available, a man will have sex with like, yeah, here's the scenario: if a man is in a room with like a woman who's like one, two, three points below him, average, she could even be average looking.
	They're in a bedroom, she wants to have sex with him.
	Nobody has to know.
	There's no chance of pregnancy, no chance of STD.
	A lot of guys are just gonna be like, okay, I'll do it.
	Fuck it.
	I don't think the same applies if a woman's alone in a room.
	There's no chance of pregnancy, no chance of STD.
	He's like definitely less attractive than you are.
	You would consider him like kind of unattractive.
	I don't think most women, like, and nobody ever finds out, your friend doesn't find out, and nobody knows.
	I don't think a lot of women go for it.
	I don't think a lot of women are like, okay, fuck.
	Yeah, sure.
	We'll fuck.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	Yeah.
	Very profound sex difference.
	But yeah, that's like the thing.
	It's like men think about sex all the time.
	So if like some woman, like you just said, just to reiterate it, if like if a woman is like, I am open for sex, then like that's a whole line of men.
	They're going to line up.
	It's not saying vice versa, you know?
	Yeah.
	Because there's another difference here.
	So men sleep with who they sorry.
	Women sleep with who they want.
	Men sleep with who they can.
	So what is this kind of, how does this impact the dating landscape?
	So as a guy, if I sleep with a girl, I think there's a really high probability I can get her into a relationship.
	But as a woman, if you sleep with a guy, I think that probability is way lower.
	Way lower.
	So you're saying from her perspective, or you're saying that, sorry, could you repeat the way you should say that?
	Yeah, so if I can sleep with a girl, I have a pretty strong level of confidence.
	I can then take her and bring her into a relationship.
	Like very high confidence level.
	Not always, but like pretty high.
	Whereas a woman, if you just have sex with a guy fairly quickly, I don't think that there's a high, no, high probability of a woman with a strong guarantee of being able to get a given guy into a relationship.
	The way I think about it, it's like a reward system.
	So it's like, because men, like sex is so rewarding to them.
	So if you, if you hold, it is.
	Is it though?
	It's like, so if you have women who like can have multiple orgasms and fucking legs twitching on a neurological level, it is.
	It's like, it's just, it's so.
	It's more rewarding for men.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They release more double menu.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's like, that's why.
	Doesn't release more like oxytocin or whatever.
	Go ahead.
	No, but yeah, I mean, the thing is, is, you know, you already, there have been studies done on this and that the hypothalamus and the amygdala are activated in male brains.
	That doesn't necessarily happen in female brains.
	We could go, you know, into that.
	But, you know, there's a sex difference in terms of arousal.
	It's been like well documented.
	So men are more stimulated by these.
	Well, I don't want to repeat myself, but these visual sexual stimuli are more reinforcing to men than they are to women.
	So I think what that may suggest is that, you know, men are just very easily, if I'm being honest with you, you know, it's very men are just, they're very prone to being on this like reward system of if they do something, then they'll get sex.
	If they do something, then they'll get sex.
	It's not really the case with women.
	Yeah, it's the anticipation.
	I actually totally.
	Maybe you're right, but in my own experience, I flip that shit around.
	Oh, you did the laundry for me?
	You get sex.
	Oh, boom.
	I flipped that shit around.
	I'm not the only man to do that, but it doesn't.
	I flip that shit.
	Unless you realize.
	It's always work in a sense.
	A woman isn't always looking for that.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm looking for the reward for a woman.
	It's fun.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because, well, because you got to find a guy who does.
	Well, because the reward is in the orgasm.
	Yeah, so the reward is in the orgasm.
	The orgasm is reinforcing.
	It happens, right?
	Yeah.
	No, I'm saying for men, like men, men orgasm a lot more than women do.
	The average woman doesn't orgasm that often.
	So the reward is in the orgasm.
	So if women orgasmed as often as men do, then they would probably have more sex in theory.
	But it's just like when you have sex with a woman and you make her orgasm, she get crazy.
	And she wants it all the time.
	I know.
	I got a girl.
	But, you know, it's always been that.
	Like, once a woman orgasms, because women don't orgasm that often, you find that the same effect occurs.
	She's experienced with that guy and then she wants it from that guy because she knows that guy can make her orgasm.
	Right, right, right.
	So then you're saying that so then where would you say, just out of curiosity, like the sex differences?
	The sex differences, the sex difference is one in.
	I'm going to pinpoint it.
	Well, it starts in the brain.
	The men pursue sex more because the part of the brain that's responsible for sexual pursuing initiating is larger in men.
	It's the medial preoptic area.
	So then that's where the drive for sex comes.
	And then testosterone reinforces that.
	Makes men even like if women take testosterone, their sex drives get higher.
	Like that's been done.
	That study has been done as well.
	And then, of course, it's the orgasm.
	So there's a physiological response, physical response, and a psychological.
	It's all the above.
	Men are just hardwired for sex because we want to procreate.
	Right.
	We want to propagate that genius.
	So we have to take advantage of every sexual opportunity almost that comes along because we don't get sexual opportunities as often as women do.
	Like you said, you have men obsessing over you.
	I can tell you 99% of men don't have women obsessing over you.
	Right, I know.
	They don't.
	And they, yeah.
	Yeah, so the stimulus for you is essentially you become more desensitized to it as a woman because it's like guys always come at me.
	But as a guy, you don't have that experience with women coming at you.
	So when they do, you're overstimulated.
	That's why a lot of guys, when they come into money or they come into fame, what do they do?
	They fuck a lot of women because they never experienced that.
	They've never been exposed to that.
	That's the biological differences.
	Yeah, yeah, for sure.
	And, you know, if you want to go back to like the perspective of evolutionary psychology, women historically have invested more in the offspring.
	So they're going to be a lot more selective.
	Also, you know, a woman is born with all the eggs she'll ever have.
	And that's a pretty sensitive thing.
	Whereas men, you know, they can disperse their sperm wherever and not invest.
	So that's probably, you know, the root, if you want to look at the genetic root, the biological root.
	Yeah, sexual surgery.
	Right.
	Of why women are kind of more so looking for that investment compared to men.
	Whereas men are a lot less selective.
	But I know that Brian disagrees with me.
	He agrees.
	He's just talking about him.
	That's it.
	He's just talking about in his case.
	He agrees generally.
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	All right, so we're going to get into the questionnaire stuff, and then we have more pre-show notes and whatnot.
	So going around the table, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	What did I say?
	I think I said as long as it's not significantly less than me or like average living comfortable expense.
	Okay.
	I put $65,000 because I thought not a number, but just average enough to live really well.
	Okay.
	I said $75,000, just kind of on the same terms, kind of like how I make.
	You're a nurse, you make around there.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I didn't put a number.
	I just said enough to take trips and live comfortably.
	How often do you want to take trips?
	I want to travel the world up like backpack across Europe.
	I want to go to Asia.
	I've gone all over America already.
	Yeah, me too.
	Okay.
	You want to go to Europe and Asia?
	Okay.
	And he pays for it?
	No.
	Or, okay.
	No, just enough that I'm not paying for it solely.
	So split it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	What about you?
	I didn't list a number either.
	I just said enough to afford your bills, like live comfortably.
	As long as you can sustain yourself and your lifestyle.
	Sure, what about you?
	I really, really want children.
	I really want to be a stay-at-home mom.
	So I said anything that would make our family be okay and live comfortably would be okay with me.
	Okay.
	How many kids do you want?
	Everybody's going to think I'm crazy.
	I want three before I'm 30.
	And I'm 22.
	I don't think that's crazy.
	So I feel a little out of this.
	Those are some rookie numbers.
	You got to pump that up.
	Well, I know, but I'm afraid to scare people when I say that.
	So I just play it safe and I'm like, three before I'm 30.
	But really, I want a lot of kids.
	Like seven.
	You want seven kids?
	I want like a five to I always said about five to seven, but I don't want to see him insane.
	Sure.
	I don't think it's insane.
	I think for the right guy, he'll be like, hell yeah.
	Because some girls are going to say, like, some guy might want a lot of kids.
	And some women might be like, I kind of only want two or three.
	And it's really crucial to me to have them in my 20s because I want to be agile enough to raise them and play sports with them and run around with them.
	So it's definitely something I'm very eager to accomplish.
	Sure.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'd say at least $100,000.
	At least $100,000?
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I don't have a specific number, but same thing with the, as long as we have a comfortable life.
	Okay.
	Who here wants kids?
	Show of hands.
	Kids?
	No kids.
	No kids.
	Everybody else, though?
	How many kids do you want?
	Two.
	Two?
	I'll see.
	Four.
	Four.
	She doesn't want kids.
	What about you?
	Probably three to five.
	Three to five?
	Five to seven.
	One or two.
	One or two.
	And two.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I know some of you said you don't really care, but I think, you know, just the economic realities are, if you want to have kids, you do have to consider finances to some degree when you're picking a partner, I would imagine.
	But, okay.
	$100,000.
	$100,000.
	How much do you make?
	Aren't you like a neat?
	Aren't you like unemployed right now?
	I am.
	I am.
	I'm working on it.
	It's a long, you know, predators.
	Oh, my God.
	Predators can't have anything.
	I can't believe that.
	How did I miss that?
	How did you miss this?
	Because it's fading.
	I see the stains too.
	Oh, I know.
	Well, I'm sweating.
	I'm sorry.
	Oh, it's sweat stands.
	Titty, sweat.
	It's okay.
	I get that too.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	Well, I've just, that's why it's on the chest.
	What do you want me?
	It is.
	I know.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	Predators can't have any of this.
	Why not?
	Oh my god.
	What's so special about?
	Like, isn't that just a given?
	Like, who would have a shirt?
	Like, predators can get this?
	What?
	Well, because some men feel, and I'm not talking about either of you, some men feel entitled to women.
	They feel entitled.
	Well, they feel entitled to.
	Wouldn't the predator feel entitled regardless of your shirt?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I'm just sure you'd like to be like, he's not going to stop.
	I know, I know.
	He's not going to stop because I have this, obviously.
	But like, what are you trying to signal, I guess?
	Like, I don't get it.
	Well, I see it as more of a, you know, as more of like a joke, but because it's, it's serious to me, but I understand that it's not going to be perceived in a serious manner by anybody who actually does think that way.
	Because there are men that I've dealt with, you know, who feel very entitled to me.
	I don't know if they are aware that they're predators.
	Probably not.
	Yeah, and that's actually very interesting that you bring up that point.
	Because a lot of people think that many of these like predatory-minded people, male or female, they actually know that they're like predatory.
	And it's actually not the case a lot of the time.
	There's a whole psychological movement on that.
	But yeah.
	Movement in psychology, I should say.
	I'm trying to like kind of wrap my head around it, though.
	Like, what would be an equivalent shirt?
	Like, what would a guy wear that's like gold diggers, can't?
	Some obese gold digger bitchy women can't get this.
	Does it need to be stated off limits and then hashtag or hash marks of the criteria?
	So like off limits gold diggers.
	Obese women um, old women, you know, you get like a whole list.
	Yeah, off limits.
	Predators, yeah, but see, that's the thing.
	It's like men who I feel like our society has this idea of, like men that are like very assertive with other people, like they're not.
	So the way I think of it is like guys that aren't frauds, like I wouldn't consider them like predatory, even if they're very like assertive and like maybe they've had like a couple like um, mishaps with women or men or their men or something like they're not, so they're gay.
	No, like a guy who's like, no, a guy who's like assertive and very powerful, like that's not what I would consider to be a predator.
	I would consider a predator to be like somebody who like like he, he's like basically well, he's like, he does like he just said um, he's not aware that his behavior is like creepy, like he's, his behaviors are not matching his thoughts about his behavior, about how he's like being.
	But if he wasn't aware perceived by the world.
	I'm sorry, but if he wasn't aware that he was a predator, how would he know the shirt applied to him?
	Right exactly yeah, that's why it's kind of a joke in my mind.
	I just don't.
	There's a whole.
	I don't get it.
	There's literature on this.
	I mean there's narcissists.
	There's men that are narcissists, that don't know that they're narcissists, and they're the ones that I actually don't like.
	It's not the men that like know they're narcissists and like you'll date a narcissist if they know they're a narcissist, because they're more likely than not, they're not going to have this like cognitive dissonance going on, where they like they are behaving in one way and they're thinking about themselves in another way.
	So, for example, like those guys who think that they're maybe this is attack on how you perceive yourself, I don't know, but there are guys that that there are guys who think that they're like these that do everything to try to impress a girl, like they basically simp for her, you know, and they like they'll do everything, just like follow her around, like they'll, they'll do.
	They're basically like simps.
	What are you saying?
	I'm sorry, you're lost.
	You're lost, you're lost okay, wait.
	Okay, we'll drop the point.
	No, but okay, there's male simps, what?
	Okay, because that's like what a predator is in my mind.
	So as like guys that do everything, guys that yeah no, I think so yeah, hold on, not like a guy who's like definitely a predator, like a guy who is okay, let me think of it this way.
	It's on your shirt, like I assume you know how to like right, so so what?
	So what this is basically addressing, like I just said, is like this cognitive dissonance.
	There are certain people where they their behaviors don't match their actions or, i'm sorry, their behaviors don't match their actions.
	So they could be like violating boundaries, poor boundary recognition um, constantly asserting control over like another person, like trying to control their life their, the person's life.
	What's an example of that?
	So the way that I think of it is like a guy who thinks that because he's a nice guy, he should get, he should get to sleep with a woman and that's the only reason, because he's a nice guy, that's done stuff for her and I, I mean, I think that that's a bad mindset to have, but I I don't know if that would make him a predator.
	I agree I, I know i'm a female man, but I think there could be other things about him that make him predatory, but just a guy who's like i'm a nice, like that's a shit mindset, Mindset to have, but I don't think that makes them predatory in and of itself.
	Maybe, maybe, that's your opinion.
	Well, I don't just think that.
	I mean, I think a lot of people, I think a lot of people agree with you predatory behavior in conjunction with the mindset.
	Right.
	So a guy might, I mean, so probably gonna get a lot of backlash for this, but a guy might think that if he, and this may be associated with like people that I, oh, this is gonna make me sound bad.
	This is gonna make me sound bad.
	But like, I'm very attracted, honestly, I'm very attracted to intelligent men.
	So I don't really appreciate like intellectually deficient men.
	I think that if they have like some kind of intellectual disability that's like unattractive to me.
	That sounds prejudice, but what about the intelligence?
	But you know, I think, well, I'm saying that it may be correlated.
	Like if you're if you're highly intelligent man is no, Not those two.
	Not those two things.
	Why are you bringing another person?
	Okay, okay.
	So I think that like it may be characteristic of somebody with an intellectual disability to not understand how they're how their actions are impacting another person.
	And so as a result, they're saying like people behave in a certain way.
	Okay.
	And it may be an aggressive way.
	Now, again, this is going to make me sound like a really mean person because there's people out there that are kind of given this pass.
	Oh, they have like a disability.
	They can't help themselves.
	They have a cognitive problem.
	Wait, hold on.
	Are you talking low IQ or full on disability?
	Because are you talking like Down syndrome?
	What?
	What are you talking about?
	I mean, somebody with a low IQ.
	Yeah.
	But low IQ is not, isn't necessarily a metric of intelligence.
	So it's not, I don't want to say IQ.
	I'd want to say somebody who isn't, and I don't know if you know that, but there are issues with IQ tests.
	But yeah, so there are people out there.
	Let's say that I have been taught throughout my life, or something has happened where I as a man believe that if I steal items from a woman, for example, or I do something to hurt her, that she's still going to like me.
	Or if I'm, you know, if I have those cognitive distortions, if I have like this idea in my brain that if I do things to manipulate a female, that she's going to like me, that's somebody who obviously something is going on in their brain where they think that they're a good person when their behavior is suggesting otherwise.
	And there's a lot of examples of this in psychology.
	Let me give you an example.
	So let me give you an example.
	So.
	Can I ask you something before we jump in?
	So earlier you kind of commented on how you would date a narcissist who is aware they're a narcissist.
	Yeah.
	So in that that kind of indicates that you think the awareness reduces the symptoms of narcissism or the behaviors and how it affects you.
	Right.
	So if somebody is, and again, there's like data on this, that narcissism does have a strong, it has a stronger genetic component than we once thought.
	Absolutely.
	But there are certain forms of narcissism that are probably more so due to environment, even though that genetic basis is still there.
	But I think that if somebody is raised in a household where they're maybe more aware of their behaviors, so they're not, so the way that I think of it is This is going to sound complicated to you guys, but there are people that are taught that empathy may mean something, you know, other than what it actually is.
	And what is that something?
	So if you're going to, if you're one of the, if you're one of these guys who thinks that they're going to like, that they need to like rescue women or something like that, that women need to be saved.
	Yeah.
	And that, you know, let's say if she is like a three, if she's, you know, selling her body for sex, she needs to be saved.
	That she needs to be saved and like, you know, taken care of or something like that.
	Well, continue.
	But I don't know if that woman needs to be saved.
	I mean, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't.
	Either way, it's not really up to the guy.
	So wait, it's not really up to the guy to like decide that for her.
	That's a boundary violation.
	So he's just like.
	What are you talking about?
	He doesn't know what I'm talking about.
	You're just yapping.
	I'm yapping.
	I'm asking.
	Make a cohesive argument.
	A cohesive articulate something.
	I think that you don't understand what I'm saying.
	No, you're just, I'm not sure.
	I'm just ranting.
	Okay, okay.
	So, I'm not sure.
	So, wait, back to the question that I had.
	But I want to answer your question.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Yes.
	So, so, okay, so we have genetics and we have environment.
	And environment, think of environment like the soil.
	And genetics is the seed.
	So the soil like shapes, the soil shapes how the seed grows, right?
	Cause you to speed this up a little bit.
	Everyone in my family is narcissistic.
	My mom, my dad, all three of my brothers.
	Yeah.
	So I kind of understand what's genetic and what's environmental.
	I know.
	Tell us more about the soil.
	I'm using a metaphor.
	That's all it is.
	So what matters more, the environment or the genetic factor?
	Do you think if someone who comes from a long line of generational trauma is put into a foster care foster home?
	No, Brian.
	Well, we can move on, Brian.
	Sorry.
	I'm asking her about her shirt.
	That's not true.
	And I told you what a predator is in my mind.
	I have zigzagging.
	I agree.
	There's a lot of zigzagging.
	Yeah.
	What are you trying to communicate with your shirt?
	Like, I just don't get that.
	I'm trying to make fun of people.
	Murderers, you can't hang out with me.
	What did that?
	Who?
	So?
	Of course, I don't want to hang out.
	Oh, murderers, don't hang out with me.
	You think a murderer is going to...
	Oh, she's got the shirt that says...
	That's exactly.
	I don't like murder.
	You don't.
	I'm going to stay away from her.
	No, if I'm a murderer, I'm going to be like, challenge accepted.
	You're tragic.
	These predators are like.
	That's the one.
	And you're saying.
	Right.
	You're describing exactly what I'm saying.
	Then why are you wearing the shirt, lady?
	Because I want to be bait.
	I want to be fishy fishy.
	No.
	Like, when the predatory person see that shit, be like.
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	It's like a guy who's aware that he's like, you know, an arrogant guy.
	He's going to see it and he's going to just laugh.
	He's going to be like, oh, well, like, I wasn't, like, he probably wouldn't want me anyway.
	So, obviously, I'm aware.
	But somebody who's not aware of their actions.
	I am going to, you know what?
	I like the shirt.
	I'm going to put it on my merch store.
	I'm also, I just, three other t-shirt ideas came to my mind while we've been discussing this.
	Your t-shirt says, predators can't have any of this.
	I also am going to release a couple shirts on my merch store, shop.whatever.com.
	The sky is blue.
	I'm gonna.
	The sky is blue.
	I don't know.
	What's some other?
	Grass is green.
	And women are gonna nag you.
	Okay, that's what my the merch shop is.
	Awesome.
	Anyways, I don't know why.
	Okay, all right.
	That's it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are you a predator?
	I might, you know.
	It's reverse psychology.
	You're a.
	No, you know what?
	You make a good point because when I was younger, I knew.
	I think some men, some men would probably consider me if they were consider me to be a predator.
	When you were younger, men would think you were a predator?
	No.
	So, let me, let me.
	Let me explain.
	I don't know.
	I mean, there have been guys that have said that I've used them.
	Why did I say that?
	I don't know if it's in ta...
	I don't know.
	It won't stop.
	Wait, you were abusive?
	I think maybe I was.
	Did you the guy?
	No, I didn't hit him.
	You were verbally abusive?
	No, I don't think verbally.
	Sexually abusive?
	No.
	Emotionally abusive?
	I think, I guess, emotionally, yeah.
	How did you emotionally abuse the guy?
	Well, I've had a couple guys have said that, actually, just one basically said that I used him for sex.
	See, I told you guys, girls do that shit.
	Not all women.
	I'm telling you, bro, these girls are shit out of it.
	But it was like one guy who said that, and he has like a very unstable background.
	So I don't know if that's if it's just because he has like trauma.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	I mean, I don't.
	It's not like a personal thing, though.
	You used him.
	You used him.
	It's not a personal thing.
	I mean, I'm not, I don't like hate the person.
	Used sexually, Q like a woman just used you.
	Sexually.
	No, I don't mind.
	I don't know.
	It's not that big of a deal.
	Have fun.
	Yeah, that's the thing.
	It's like that's what most men, that's how most men would react.
	Like, they wouldn't even.
	Have you seen the American Pie?
	The film, yeah.
	I saw one of them.
	I don't remember which one, though.
	The first one.
	No, I haven't seen the first one.
	At the end, Jim, Jimbo, finally loses.
	I'm going to spoil it.
	Look, it came out 25 years ago.
	You are dating yourself.
	American Pie is like one of the most important things.
	2000, I know.
	I know.
	It was like fun.
	Jimbo finally loses his virginity to this one time at Bandcamp band geek girl.
	And they hook up, they have sex, prom.
	They weren't even really together.
	He just asked her to prom.
	They have sex, and then he wakes up and she's disappeared.
	And he was like, Where'd she go?
	And he was like, oh my God.
	I was used.
	I was used.
	And he was like, I don't know what that happened.
	Yeah, but couldn't you say that, like, well, we could like analyze the movie, but like Stiffler's mom used that the other, what's his name?
	I don't remember.
	Finch?
	Finch, yeah.
	I mean, that was a good idea.
	That was a consensual.
	I'm pretty sure that was a consensual counter.
	Yeah, but he was like a young man.
	I took some MILF.
	Oh, there we go.
	Yeah.
	From the movie.
	All right, here.
	Let's get into the rest of the questionnaire stuff.
	How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date, starting with you?
	I'm 5'2.
	I don't really care that much about height.
	If there's height somewhere else, you know.
	Wait, can you stick your mic to the edge of the table?
	Oh, it moves.
	It's traveling.
	It's all good.
	What about women?
	Do you have a preference there?
	Do you prefer petite women to all women?
	Don't care?
	I think you're a large labia enjoyment.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So no high preference.
	So you'll date a guy who's like 5'2 then?
	5'3?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Must be at least the same height as me.
	And you're 5'6?
	Yes, 5'6.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm 5'1, and I said I don't really care about height unless he's taller than me.
	Okay, 5'1 ⁇ .
	Okay, most guys are going to be taller than you.
	What about you?
	I said I'm 5'3 and the shortest I would date is 5'3.
	Really?
	Okay.
	I'm 4'11.
	I don't really have any height restrictions.
	I never have.
	I've never cared about it.
	Got it.
	X was 5'4, though.
	Yep, my X was 5'4.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'2 and a half, and I go for guys probably about the 5'10 range.
	And I will say the reason why is I feel like men that are taller appear a little bit more masculine to me.
	So I'm into it.
	Okay.
	I prefer tall, taller.
	So I'm 5'3.
	Yeah.
	But if preferably over 6 feet.
	Sure.
	only if he's like ripped like only if i don't want like a tall skinny guy You know?
	He's got makeup for it if he's taller.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'2.
	I would say 5'5.
	Just like a couple inches.
	Sure.
	Do you have any dating frustrations?
	If so, what?
	Toria, starting with you.
	Okay.
	I feel like nowadays there's a lot of people who are emotionally immature or unavailable.
	And you like go around and you're showing all these acts of care, but then you can't say I love you or like I care about you, you know?
	And you're just like doing this weird little dance where you're like, oh, we can have, like, we can have a child together.
	You'll say that, but, like, I love you, can't say that.
	Like, that's weird.
	That's all right.
	Dating frustrations, I would say, not emotionally available, or guys want two girlfriends.
	And I feel like we just live like, I don't know, in a fuckboy generation.
	No.
	What about you?
	I feel like being single so long and really thinking about it, I got too choosy.
	Okay.
	And I feel like I just see a lot of things that I don't like, like the roles being reversed, and that includes me as well.
	Like having to be a little more masculine in a relationship is kind of strange.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So lack of communication is a really big one for me.
	And then also lacking emotional maturity and being able to, you know, effectively identify and solve, feel, resolve feelings, things like that.
	Resolve feelings.
	Yeah.
	Like I feel like a lot of men I see are more likely to not talk about something that bothers them and just kind of let it go until it gets to a point where they're like, you know, really like they get triggered really easily and kind of, and then it's like, there are all these problems, but you never talk to me about any of them.
	So it like builds up and then it overwhelms them to the point where you just explode the exact opposite of that.
	Yeah, I tend to attract men that are maybe, I don't want to say too open because I love the open.
	But yeah, emotionally dumb.
	The amount of guys I've dated that say I love you so quick or and like I can't say it back because it's like way too soon.
	Like we barely know each other.
	That's a little crazy.
	But yeah, I feel like I've dealt with the opposite where it's like the emotion is a little too fast.
	Like it's coming, it's the first thing that comes where it should be like love bombing.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Yeah.
	You know, most of what I experience is just really avoidant men who would rather not talk about, I don't know, just even like their childhood or things like that, but won't tell me why.
	Just avoidance in a lot of ways such as that that ultimately doesn't benefit you at all because you're keeping that information back, any information, out of fear of it causing a bigger problem or being rejected.
	And so, I mean, those problems can't be confronted if they're not mentioned, if they're not brought to light.
	So, yeah, I just see avoidance in men a lot typically.
	Okay.
	I feel like my struggles are a little more personal or more a little like on that outlier range.
	I think trying being 22 years old and like wanting to save myself for marriage and not really skewing from that has made dating really hard for me because a lot of guys that I've experienced, I can't say this is the truth for all men out there, aren't really in the mood to wait and or respect my morals in that sense.
	And my morals are everything to me.
	So I feel like that's been my personal biggest struggle is finding somebody that would be open to that kind of dating style.
	Is the guy you currently talk to open today?
	Yeah.
	And that's why I said earlier and I even mentioned it because if I was just talking and he wasn't, I wouldn't have mentioned it.
	But I was like, you know what?
	You respect me enough to be respectful with, you know, me being open with you about the fact I'm saving myself and gave me a really great response actually.
	So that's why when I came on here, I wasn't just like, I'm single and ready to mingle.
	I'm like, now I'm talking to somebody because that's something I really respect.
	But you said you've only been talking to him for a month.
	Only like, no, no, like way shorter than that.
	It's only been really like, we've known each other longer, but we both kind of admitted to liking each other within the last two weeks.
	So that's more my situation.
	One question for you.
	I know like some women who they say that they're waiting for marriage, but they're like waiting for that guy.
	So they'll like, and I'm not saying that that's the case for you, but someone will say, for example, like, I'm just waiting for the guy who I know is going to be the one.
	So like they'll have sex before marriage, but it's like that, you're like really high certainty, like we're going to get married.
	Or is that even then you're like, nope, wait a minute.
	Not even when I'm engaged for me, I want it to be like the night I'm married.
	And it's very like, it's not only spiritual for me, but it's also the fact that both my dad and stepdad passed and I know that that was their wishes for me.
	And it's almost like now that they're both gone, it's definitely something that is a reminder for me to like hold up to my moral values because like inevitably I don't have that father figure in my life to protect me and like kind of give me that advice.
	And I feel as though saving myself from marriage has given me this really cool perspective where I can say that maybe I've been hurt less in certain ways because I've never inevitably faced out heartbreak in the same way because I've never given myself to someone.
	So I feel like when I make decisions, it's not like out of lust and when I do things, it's with a clear head.
	So that's like a plus.
	And I guess also kind of just not experiencing heartbreak as bad, I would say, just because I feel like, and maybe you guys can relate if you can, you know, let me know.
	But like, I know that sometimes once you've kind of been intimate with somebody, it can hurt more when they like act stupid or just ghost or leave or something like that.
	And I feel like that's been something I've been fortunate enough to not have to face in that aspect.
	So I think that's another driving reason that I want to keep doing it is because I've seen the benefits, but I can't speak for everybody.
	And I don't shame anybody else who doesn't follow that.
	That's just a personal belief for me.
	And then going to you, Dan, frustrations, you wrote something here.
	Oh, right, so I do feel that there's, I actually had a question for you, though.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you feel ostracized by the current cultural climate?
	That's what she just said.
	You do.
	That's literally.
	I'm not trying to pick on you, but that's literally what she was saying.
	Yeah, kind of, I feel like I...
	Not as in-depth as I can.
	It's strange to live in a culture.
	Okay, we'll go in depth.
	Go ahead.
	It's strange to live in a world full of hookup culture right now, just as I can't, I don't participate.
	And it kind of, in a sense, with women being a little bit more promiscuous now, I feel like men kind of have that expectation sometimes because views like mine are not necessarily really respected or practiced as much.
	So I would say I definitely feel ostracized.
	And that's kind of my struggle right now.
	Just wanted to reinforce the answer.
	Is he religious too?
	What I love about the conversation I had with said person was the fact that I'm not super, super religious.
	I would say that my dad was a devout Christian, and my mom was very earthy and nature-y.
	And so in a sense, I believe I'm more like universally spiritual in the sense that I, you know, 48 Laws of Power, you know, that kind of affirmations, the secret, you know, like speaking positivity into reality, you know what I mean?
	Kind of situation.
	Wait, 48 Laws of Power?
	That's a book on like Machiavellianism.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but you said like earthy and no, but I mean I don't know if like the 48 laws of power.
	Machiavellianism like the 48 Laws of Power.
	Yeah, that's like how to manipulate people kind of.
	It's based on The Prince by Machiavelli.
	In my defense, I haven't read the whole thing.
	i've read excerpts from it so there are pieces of it that are i have not read the whole book I've not read the whole book.
	A lot of it is on manipulation, how to see manipulation.
	If somebody's manipulating you, how to...
	Those aren't the parts I've read.
	I take that back.
	I'll recommend The Secret.
	Real quick, I'm curious.
	Is the guy you talk to, is he a virgin?
	No.
	So that's interesting.
	Do you think he'll hold out?
	I don't know, but I'd be willing to date him and see where it goes.
	I've definitely had guys say they were okay with it in the past.
	I was in a relationship for four years.
	Is he Christian?
	The one I'm currently...
	The current guy, yeah.
	The current guy I'm in the talking stage with, he is also like universal, universally spiritual.
	So that's kind of how I'd put it, because it's not necessarily man-made religion, but it's definitely living by a moral principle.
	What's his body count?
	I didn't ask him that.
	How old is he?
	Is it Tristan Tate?
	I knew that.
	No, I say he's in his later 30s, but not like 39.
	I just don't, I don't know.
	I don't want my friend's age.
	No, I do know his age.
	I just don't want my friend group back at home picking it out right now.
	Oh, they wouldn't.
	They would know.
	Process of elimination.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I don't think private, not seeing that.
	39.
	Yeah, 39.
	He's way too.
	Not 39.
	Okay, oh, 38.
	That's funny.
	Wait, why are our responses funny?
	No, like you're like, you both said that he wouldn't wait.
	Yeah, because she just started talking to him.
	And he said, oh, yeah, you know, I respect that.
	It's early.
	So he's not a virgin.
	No, but he's old enough to have probably had like multiple, multiple, multiple sexual relationships.
	Once you've had, like, once that's been your sort of expectation and experience, it's far less likely that you're going to be willing to wait when he can just go find another girl who will have sex with her.
	Not to say that.
	But he is extremely traditional, which is.
	He is?
	Yeah, in the sense of how he was raised and his moral beliefs and disciplines.
	I mean, I don't, I know, I'm not going to ask him that right off the bat.
	Hey, I was like, wait, you're Christian, right?
	No, my dad was very Christian.
	So I was raised Christian, and then my mom's side of the family is more like Roman.
	She's spiritual, but I was also like Roman Catholic, like grew up with the nuns and stuff.
	What?
	Are you typically attracted to older men?
	Yeah.
	What about like a guy who's a couple years older than I don't know, like 25 or 20?
	No, because I'll be honest with you.
	I have personally found, I know you both are men sitting right here.
	You could totally disagree if you'd like.
	But in my personal experiences, men in their early to late 20s tend to be little horn dogs.
	Like they're kind of just trying to get it where they can all the time.
	And then guys in their 30s are looking to get married, settle down, have kids.
	So they're willing to kind of put a little bit more effort in because they're looking for their wife.
	The guy you're currently seeing, does he have kids?
	No, but he wants kids.
	Has he ever been married?
	No.
	And he's spiritual.
	I was surprisingly spiritual.
	I enjoyed talking to him about that.
	I was shocked because not many people have the same kind of spirituality that I do.
	I just feel like it's going to be hard to like you could probably find this guy in the church, but like a non-religious man who wants to wait until marriage, regardless of his age, I think you would actually be more likely to find that in younger men than in older men.
	Like older men, they might want, like they, they're probably more inclined to like settle down, have kids, have a family.
	But like when it comes to premarital sex, I don't know if there's any difference there as compared to younger counterparts.
	How old are you?
	If you don't let me ask you.
	35.
	Okay, do you, and if you don't mind me asking, I feel like we've all gotten pretty personal in some of our answers.
	But do you feel like you have a higher sex drive now or when you're in your 20s?
	Or at least like ability to, I don't know, kind of maybe hold back at least for a little bit.
	Honestly, I think it's pretty much the same.
	Pretty much the same.
	Yeah.
	If I almost.
	So like you don't feel like guys in their 20s.
	And again, this is me actually asking because I have two men sitting right here that are, and how old are you?
	I'm 32.
	Okay, so in their 30s.
	So do you feel like you go around as much as maybe you did in your 20s to like look for it and seek it out and go through the action of it?
	You're like, me personally.
	I mean, I didn't, it came, it more so came to me.
	Thank you.
	It came to him.
	Waves.
	Waves.
	I mean, I'm trying to think.
	Was I more trying to pursue it?
	I can tell you this.
	I've always been relationship-minded.
	Like, I've never been into sleep with a girl once, never talked to her again.
	I thought that was weird.
	Like, I thought it was a waste of time, and it was frankly a liability, but that's another conversation.
	Do you think a high-valued man would be willing to wait if it meant that it could potentially land him with a high-value woman?
	With a high-value man.
	Because, you know, I always hear that talked about.
	You know what I mean?
	And guys are always like, oh, we want a high-value woman, or we want a woman that has been with less people.
	So if they really want that, then guy do the time.
	The thing.
	She doesn't just fall into the marriage.
	That's a great point.
	You know, the thing is, though, very, very true.
	The thing is, I do think, absent there being some sort of structured value system like religion, I think the majority of men who are agnostic or atheist are probably not the type to wait until marriage, especially if they're 39.
	Now, I'm not, just to be clear, I'm not, whatever.
	Like, I'm not saying that, hey, you know, that you're not a catch, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, is like even a man presented with like a really fantastic woman, but she's like, I want to wait until marriage.
	A lot of men are so accustomed to getting sex up front or pretty early on that that's they're like I can probably find a woman who's just as attractive and personality-wise, probably just as good and also have a premarital sexual relationship with her, which could lead into a marriage.
	So you feel like kind of what I do is a little bit outdated and like shouldn't necessarily really need to be practiced anymore.
	And I don't take offense to that because I know that I kind of want to be wrong.
	I just think that I think a lot of men who are not virgins themselves or who are who are not, maybe they've had sexual partners in the past, but now they're like Christian and they have like a guiding moral, guiding moral and ethical principles and like a religious foundation.
	I think most agnostic and atheist men, which I assume you're open to dating since you're not religious yourself, I think it's going to be hard to find that.
	I'm not saying it's impossible, but I think a lot of men.
	Because you feel like maybe they'd use the thing of like, oh, well, she's following her religion kind of thing.
	No, he's following his religion.
	His religion.
	But let me ask you this.
	How long have you guys been talking?
	A month?
	Oh, no.
	I'm just, I see.
	The guy, the guy you're seeing.
	The guy I'm talking to.
	Talking to.
	Have you guys been on a couple dates?
	I'm not going to disclose that much information for my friends back home, but I'm going to say that we've.
	Have you met in person?
	Yes, yes.
	Multiple times.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Have you been alone together?
	Yes.
	Has he attempted to move things forward sexually?
	No, and that's why I like him.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's a good indicator.
	Because I was very upfront about that.
	Yeah.
	And again, I don't want to talk like someone if he like listens in to think I'm some weirdo.
	Like, yeah, we've been talking a couple weeks, and I said that because I like where things are going.
	And I think that he's a high-value man and respectable enough for me to say, hey, I'm not single and ready to mingle to the world.
	So.
	Yeah.
	Look, if you can get it, that's fine.
	I think it's early.
	Oh, definitely early.
	I don't know how it's going to work out.
	Some guys wait.
	Some guys wait.
	Yeah, we were just talking about this.
	I was trying to get away from it.
	Telling y'all what I want to hear in order to do that.
	If anybody knows, I know.
	And I've been with a guy for nine months before and then had him be like, I actually can't do this anymore.
	And I will say, that's what I'm saying.
	And you know what?
	I don't blame him because I appreciate guys that are open and up front.
	Like there was this one guy that one time asked me out and then we had the talk.
	Like I'm not going to lead on a guy and like get into a relationship with him just to be like, hey, guess what I don't do?
	I told him my morals and he straight up told me, So, listen, like, sex is something that I need in my life to be very healthy, and like it's something that I need.
	And it was really amazing because he just came up to me and told me that rather than leading me on for a bunch of months, just to be like, actually, I don't think I can, you know?
	So, I do have respect for people, even for being open about that, you know.
	Q, did you have something?
	Oh, I was just going to say, in reference to the fact that you holding out till marriage, I actually, I'd say that's probably a top two or three problem in my female clientele of women that I coach, single women, the women who are religious and want to wait till marriage, but they struggle tremendously and they're older.
	You're talking about like 30s.
	And they're still single.
	Yeah, some women have held out to their 30s.
	No hope for me.
	Yeah.
	I'm just saying it is difficult.
	Like, because you have to find a guy that you really like and who aligns with your values.
	And if you aren't on the same religious foundation, then that's typically going to be really, really difficult.
	Yeah, 100%.
	Yeah, odds are crazy.
	What if it never happens?
	Like, what if you're the 40-year-old virgin?
	Why would you say that?
	I'm just saying.
	I'm not saying that's what's going to happen.
	I'm just curious.
	Are you like, if you hit 40, are you just going to be like, all right, I guess I'll have premarital sex.
	Or are you just going to be like, I'm going to just die a nun?
	What are you going to do?
	I'll just marry somebody really quickly then.
	I'll be like, all right, I'll marry you in a week.
	Like Vegas?
	I'm just kidding.
	I don't think it's going to get to that.
	I have faith.
	I am always curious with the women who are virgins.
	Like, what if?
	And who are waiting until marriage?
	Like, what if it doesn't happen?
	Are you going to make some concessions?
	Do you die a virgin?
	What do you do?
	I actually thought about that.
	Would you be willing to die a virgin?
	I kind of would.
	I know it sounds stupid.
	Don't make fun of me, okay?
	I'm not making fun of them.
	But like, I don't know.
	It really matters to me.
	It's like, I don't expect it of my friends.
	I don't preach about it.
	I don't tell other people they should do it.
	But it's something that matters to me.
	And if I'm truly loyal, then I'm not going to go back on my own convictions either.
	And that's a promise I made to myself.
	I have three questions for you.
	Okay.
	If you're still a virgin, do you want to make a pact?
	At 40, do you want, we could, what do you think?
	Like premarital?
	I'm not having sex before marriage.
	Okay, hold on.
	50.
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	You know what?
	60?
	No, I'll be.
	60.
	You know what I'll do?
	You know what I'll do?
	I'll join the nuns.
	And I'll go to the Vatican and go.
	70?
	Yeah, I would be a cute nun.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No pact.
	At least I would have something to do with it.
	I'd have purpose.
	I'd be like, oh, well, I saved it this long.
	I don't have anybody.
	Looks like I'll go be a nun.
	You know, like, there's always that, okay?
	I'll come along with a few cobwebs.
	I was just going to say, I think it's worth addressing the fact because I like older guys too.
	And, but I think a lot of what they, a lot of them, at least some of the ones I've known, they think that like they can, again, I don't know if it's malicious manipulation, but they know kind of how to, they know what a woman is like looking for in terms of maturity that she's not going to find in like a younger guy.
	And they'll play on that.
	So I really, like, I respect you a lot.
	I couldn't do that.
	The things that you're doing.
	Like, I definitely couldn't.
	You know, but I. Anne, what is she doing?
	What?
	What?
	You said.
	No, well, the fact that she's saying, she's saving herself for marriage.
	Like, that's just very, like, noble.
	And you know, and I just.
	But wait, older men are predatory?
	Wait, what?
	I didn't say that.
	Or you're saying, like, these older men, they know how to do it.
	I think that I think it's not malicious manipulation, I think, necessarily.
	It's just that they're a lot, they're mature and smart and they know, like I'd say overall, compared to like a 25-year-old guy.
	And so they, not everybody, obviously, but I think some of them know how to like play the game better.
	And so kind of say like gas a female up and just give her what she wants to hear compared to, you know.
	And again, I don't think it, I don't think the correlating factor is necessarily always age, but I just think that it comes, you know, people that are older are wiser.
	So like they're just going to be a lot better at like communicating, you know, compared.
	Because one of the reasons that I don't like younger, like guys closer to my age, basically, is because I think that they're immature.
	So it's just like, I think that a lot of times they know that women are looking for that maturity and they'll play off that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'm just saying this to you because he pulled the popcorn out.
	Oh, out of my mic.
	Oh my God.
	Karen needs to share.
	Yeah.
	He turned my mic off.
	What?
	No, I said he pulled the popcorn.
	Oh, he pulled the plug.
	The plug?
	No, what popcorn?
	What popcorn?
	The popcorn.
	Okay.
	I don't.
	I know he had like real popcorn.
	Yeah, she was laughing about it.
	No, I know.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I thought she said pull the plug.
	I was like, oh, my microphone.
	Oh, no.
	Thanks for the suggestion.
	You said that, okay, your dating frustration is what?
	So I don't really know if I want to go into what's on there now, even though I put it down.
	Too bad, I'm going to read it.
	Okay, no, no, no, no, I'll talk about it then.
	I'll talk about it fine.
	I don't know.
	Like, I've just, I have.
	It's not even bad.
	It's not even bad or anything.
	No, it's not bad, but like, I've dealt with, like, okay, so, like, in LA, there are quite a few pimps, right?
	For some reason, like, some of them have taken interest in me.
	And so they've made it about finances, right?
	Like, I should go out with them because they like can get me a job or they can, you know, provide for me or something like that.
	Do you want that kind of job?
	Hold on.
	No, I don't.
	You wrote, hold on.
	You said, I do think that some men believe nowadays that women are looking for financial resources rather than a relationship based on other qualities.
	There's nothing about pimping and hoeing in here.
	No, because that was very broad.
	Like, I wasn't specific.
	But I.
	So you're dating pimps?
	No, I'm not.
	I want to turn you out.
	I've attracted some pimps, though.
	Yeah.
	Who have tried to pay me out?
	Have you been pimped?
	Have you?
	Some men have tried to pimp me out.
	Some of them have, yes.
	What do you mean they tried?
	Again, like I don't even, I shouldn't have even written this down.
	No, but you didn't write down the pimp part.
	This is like a perfectly, you think that men believe now.
	You're basically saying all these men, like the men, think that.
	So why don't we, okay, so.
	Yeah, why don't we go ahead?
	Okay, why don't we go into that one?
	Yes, let's.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I think I said earlier that, you know, women do oftentimes prefer guys with resources.
	And I'm not saying that I don't, but I have kind of.
	Right, you wrote that at least $100,000 is the minimum yearly income you want for your future husband.
	Yeah, and I do.
	And I do think that he, but, but here's what I mean by this.
	Okay.
	So I don't want a guy who's like sitting on money, right?
	I want a guy who's like working hard.
	So he's not, he didn't inherit the money necessarily.
	Like he's not being, it's not like his parents are giving him money.
	Like he's a hard worker who's rich or who's $100,000 a year.
	It's $100,000 a year is not rich, but not what you do want.
	Rich, wealthy guy.
	Well, I mean, okay.
	I want, yeah, like a heart, like a.
	He doesn't have to be rich, but like.
	Well, you said at least $100,000 a year.
	That's not rich nowadays.
	But you want a rich guy.
	But you said at least a lot of income to your future husband.
	What do you think?
	Instead of at least, what do you think?
	Let's not even use ideal.
	Let's just say realistic.
	Like, how much money, how much income will your future husband make?
	So, for one thing, I don't want to get married, just for the record.
	But I want kids.
	I want kids.
	But I'm not saying that I necessarily have to be married to have kids.
	Sure, but do you want to, the person you have kids with, do you want to spend your hopefully the rest of your life without so that the father is in the children's lives, I'm assuming?
	Right, right, right, yeah.
	So that guy.
	I don't want to, I don't know if we would necessarily be like that linked, like for all time, no.
	But like, you know, I would at least want to be like to have a stable relationship with him for the sake of the kids.
	Yeah.
	Am I making any sense in your minds?
	No, probably not.
	No, you're making sense.
	Okay.
	I'm not saying, like, I'm not trying to like find a man and fall in love or something like that.
	What are you trying to find them?
	Yeah.
	Well.
	You just want to be an income?
	Because I don't think that necessarily I'm going to be madly in love with the person that I decide to have kids with.
	I think that's what I'm saying.
	Holy fuck, that's a scarlet letter.
	Wait, do you think that it is?
	Say it again.
	I don't think, I think that I'm just not somebody that's like deeply, like deeply emotional.
	I can't envision myself falling in love with a guy and wanting to spend the rest of my life with him.
	No.
	Then why do you think he'll be a good parent?
	Because I think that I can observe his interactions with me and with other people.
	And I think that that's a better test of whether or not he'll be a good parent than whether or not I'm in love with him.
	Because I've seen, I mean, I've seen couples who they prioritized, like, being in love or something over their kids.
	And then that ended up being.
	Well, no, that's not what I'm saying.
	I'm saying if you're not a very emotional person and you're not very like lovey-dovey or nurturing or anything like that, why do you think you'd be a good parent?
	Because kids are that love.
	No, no, no.
	You're right.
	Well, I'm not an abuser.
	Like, I don't think that I'm an abusive person.
	I mean, I know how to take...
	Keep going.
	I'm asking.
	I don't think that's the question.
	Go ahead, keep talking.
	Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Okay.
	So I just, okay, so I mean, I don't, I don't, when I say I don't consider myself a deeply emotional person, I don't really, like, I don't, I don't sit around thinking about like, oh, like, you know, I'm going to find the man of my dreams or something like that.
	Or, you know, that I, even like the people I'm friends with, like, I'm not like, I could go with or without them.
	Like, it's not like I'm glued to anybody at the hip or something like that.
	Like, that's the way that I think about it.
	I think that that's different than being an abusive person.
	I never abuse a child.
	I know how to, you know, because of social modeling from my own family life and everything, I know how to nurture a child.
	But I think that that's a different type of love than like a romantic, like a romantic love, like where like you just like fall in love with somebody.
	It is a different type of love, but I mean there's definitely a correlation with like you know if you're not if you feel like you're not capable of falling in love and making someone feel loved and you know cared for and like you care about their needs and everything like that, then I'm not really sure that you can make a child feel like that just because you're their parent.
	You know what I mean?
	Maybe not.
	Like I think being cold, you're right, being cold and distant as a parent isn't being abusive.
	Oh, but I don't know, I'd be cold and distant.
	I mean, I.
	Well, you said you can never fall in love with a man.
	Yes.
	Is that the same as being like cold?
	Am I cold and distant?
	Because I don't.
	Have you ever been in love with a guy?
	No.
	Have you ever loved anybody?
	Yeah, I love my parents.
	I love.
	Do you have a pet?
	Yeah.
	Do you love your pets?
	Yeah, I love my dog.
	You've never loved a man, though.
	I have loved men.
	I've never been in love with them.
	What?
	What the fuck?
	I think that that's different.
	I think that it's different.
	Don't you hear me?
	Hold on.
	You were in a four-year relationship.
	Well, I think that there's a lot of people.
	Did you say I love you to him?
	So he's like me in that he doesn't really like he's tried that before and it doesn't really work.
	He doesn't he tried what?
	He's not like he's just not he doesn't really like get like get the whole falling in love thing.
	What about you though?
	I don't care about him.
	Fuck him.
	Did he say I love you to him?
	Did you say I love you?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, that's all I was asking.
	Did he say I love you to you?
	No.
	And you were in a four-year relationship.
	But other I consider him one of my best friends.
	Yeah.
	I don't, I know that this doesn't sound right in your mind.
	Some of the men you dated you did love.
	Or you had love for them.
	I say it's love for them.
	Did you say I love you to any of them?
	No.
	I think that acts of love are very different than like this biochemical aspect of love where like you're inseparable from somebody and they're all that you think about all day.
	I'm going to bring it a little bit back on track here.
	So you said when it came to dating frustrations, I'm not even talking about the pimp shit because that's a whole nother thing.
	You said you think that some men believe nowadays that women are looking for financial resources rather than a relationship based on other qualities.
	You want a guy to you want to date a guy who makes at least $100,000 a year.
	How do you reconcile these two positions?
	Well, first of all, $100,000 isn't really like, in today's day and age.
	How much do you make?
	Like, it's not really that much.
	We're not going to talk about this right now because I'm not in a good financial situation.
	Yes, okay.
	Yeah.
	And so, and here's the thing, though, is that I'm working on myself.
	I want to be well off.
	I'm just going through some rocky situation.
	But, you know, I think that those episodes, those events can only motivate me.
	But I think that it's not going to do me any good if I lower my standards, you know, at the same time.
	Because I want to get to that place where I could acquire a man like that who's making that kind of money.
	I mean, that's.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let's say a guy asked you out on a date and it seemed like he was interested in something long term and he reveals to you that he makes $50,000 a year knowing that are you dating with intention at the moment or you're just going with whatever?
	No.
	Would you take the guy who makes 50k a year?
	Depending on what he does, yeah.
	Like, if he's 50k, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	He's a car salesman.
	Why not?
	I mean, that's not really, like, interesting to me, though.
	So?
	What?
	I mean, like, I want like.
	You don't make any money.
	I know.
	I'm a loser.
	But why?
	I know.
	I'm a loser right now.
	Why?
	But why does the interestingness of his job matter?
	I mean, you make a good point.
	But I think.
	You wouldn't date a car salesman.
	What if he's not?
	No, I would go out with him, I guess.
	Yeah.
	But you'd be doing the most important thing.
	It would depend.
	No, I mean, it would depend, I guess, on like what his long-term goals are, what he's doing.
	He's enjoying selling Toyotas.
	Okay, fine.
	And then we can look at like interests.
	Like, you know, what are his intellectual interests?
	That's like a big thing for me.
	He likes watching Game of Thrones.
	I'm not really into Game of Thrones.
	I really, I, you know, I like guys that are like just really like intellectually diverse.
	Like they're really into like building upon themselves as like a thinker.
	And if that makes sense, like a guy who's like really, really smart.
	Like I would love an academic.
	Is that the qualities other than financials?
	And academics don't.
	Well, I don't mean to interrupt him.
	I'm sorry, but academics don't make a lot of money.
	So like PhDs.
	You date like what about a high school teacher?
	Yeah, that's cool.
	Yeah.
	And he makes 50K.
	Yeah, I guess now that you bring it up, yeah, I probably would.
	I'm just confused because.
	But I think that, but I think it's also about goals too, right?
	Because if he has like the goal to become like a better version of himself financially, then like that is beneficial to me because that would be.
	There's only a limited amount of hustlers to go around, right?
	Like not every woman's going to get a rock star.
	Not every woman's going to get some guy who's making not even six figures.
	There's not enough men who make seven figures to go around.
	There's not even enough six-figure men to go around.
	A lot of women want a guy who makes it.
	The amount of women who want a guy who makes six figures is not commensurate to the amount of men who make six figures.
	Right.
	There's somebody on your show that brought that up.
	I forget who it was.
	But me right, you right.
	Yeah.
	No, it's something like 1% of men or something, I think.
	But you said you want a guy who makes at least $100,000, but then ideally, isn't that ideal?
	No, it's minimum.
	It's minimum.
	So your ideal could be like a million dollars per year.
	Did you want to come in on this?
	Yeah, I wanted to make a comment because you mentioned that you wouldn't lower your standards.
	So with that being said, you said you're in a pretty bad position right now in life.
	So would you not accept someone who is also maybe in a bad position, but they have those goals?
	They have that determination to fix their life just like you if they were in the same position.
	Absolutely.
	Would that be lowering your standards?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, I don't know if you're familiar with this study, but they actually did find, excuse me, they did find that women prefer men who are working as opposed to those who are like not working and they're just sitting on money.
	I'd have to cite the study, but basically rich men and poor men that are both working very hard are preferred by women over guys that are rich and poor who aren't working at all, which makes sense to me.
	And I think that's why those findings stood out to me is because, yes, I think that, and I could have put zero on there, but I kind of wanted to stimulate conversation.
	Because you make a good point.
	You know, it's tough out there for everybody right now.
	And I do value that.
	I really value guys that like work hard for what they want.
	Like that, that means a lot to me.
	I hate guys who are rich who don't work for anything or poor and don't work for anything.
	Wait, but it's about hard work for me.
	Just to be clear, you would hate hate, but you know.
	Wait, but you wouldn't date a guy who isn't working but has like a trust fund or a guy who's retired?
	What if he's retired?
	Retired.
	He made a bunch of.
	He's 40.
	Made a ton of money.
	No, no, I don't think I would.
	No, I think I would maybe have sex with him.
	I don't think I would like.
	What?
	I would maybe let him take me out.
	That's very kind of you.
	So he hustled from 20 and then he retired at 35 because he made so much money, but he's not worried.
	He's retired.
	He's living off the money he made of his interest.
	No.
	What?
	Isn't that you, though?
	That's me.
	Yeah.
	No, but that's not even you.
	You're just trying to respond.
	But you don't have those.
	It is kind of me.
	I guess you could say that.
	The not working part is you, but my understanding is.
	I'm trying to work.
	But you apply a lot of places.
	You don't have underlying resources.
	Is that correct?
	Like you don't have a trust fund.
	You don't have.
	It's a personal question, but no, I'm pretty broke.
	Yeah.
	That's why I had to move.
	But so you're broke.
	You're broke.
	I'm working hard, though.
	I'm trying to get a job.
	But you're broke.
	Just one sec.
	Hasn't worked.
	You're broke.
	For a couple months.
	But you wouldn't date a guy who hustled in his 20s and has made so much.
	Wouldn't that indicate like a higher work ethic or ambition when he was younger and he's made so much money, he's like, I don't need to work anymore.
	I'm going to relax.
	I already hustled.
	I'm good.
	I'm retired.
	why do you need a guy in that situation to work no because you can always be i mean maybe i don't know I just don't think that that's sexy if he just sits at home all day.
	He, he, but if you worked on the work all day.
	He already did that, though.
	He did the work.
	He did the hustle already.
	And now he's done.
	Why is he done?
	Isn't that sexier than the guy who's working, who's just, I'm going to slave away for the next 40 years?
	It's like, that's commendable, but to me, it would occur to me that the guy who's already set at 35, that's kind of a more appealing scenario.
	Yeah, I guess it kind of shows mentality-wise that they were determined enough and like had that work ethic enough to make it before 30.
	And now they could sit.
	They could sit pretty.
	They could take trips.
	Yeah, who's saying who's saying that?
	You won't date a guy who's sitting on 5 mil and he's just not working.
	I let him take me out.
	But because he's not currently working, but he earned the 5 million just at a quicker pace than the guy who's going to work until he's 60 or 65 and then retire?
	I think it's very like I think that it's very noble of a guy when he puts in so much work to provide for himself.
	Yeah, I do think that that's like really commendable.
	But that would be the same guy that put so much work in for himself at his 20s that is now sitting pretty at 30.
	Well, why?
	I mean, so then maybe he didn't want to work to begin with.
	Maybe it was all about the money.
	Hard-working guy, always sexy facts.
	Yep.
	Okay, thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, he said hard-working guy, what?
	Always sexy facts.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I don't, I don't.
	I was just going to say it.
	Beggars can't be choosers.
	But, like, I don't, I mean, if he stops working at 40.
	Sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	If he stops working at 40, what?
	Like, I mean, then he would, maybe it was all about the money to begin with.
	That's horrible.
	So, like, he's shallow.
	How, what?
	You don't work.
	No, a lot of people have careers that they genuinely love.
	That's a minority of people.
	It is a minority of people.
	Yes, it is a minority.
	You're right.
	The majority of people would not do what they do if they weren't being paid for it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I think it's perfectly okay if you're going to labor for somebody or labor for yourself to want to be compensated for that financially.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	Oh, I didn't say that.
	I don't think people should work for free.
	But you said, oh, he's working for the money, ergo.
	He must be superficial.
	What?
	Well, you can always be richer, I think.
	Like, I mean, you know, like you like.
	I think she's.
	I mean, yeah.
	So you're saying one thing, but then you kind of retract it a little bit with what's going on.
	I think that's what you say when you continue.
	So, okay, what do you...
	Yeah, I was going to say, I think what I'm hearing you say is that, like, when a man, so, like, if a man worked till he was 41, made as much money as he could, and then stopped working, that would show you that he doesn't have a love and a yearning for that work.
	And that is what's unattractive to you.
	Is that what I'm hearing?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I think that a guy has a passion.
	I think that that's really commendable.
	So you just want.
	Yeah, it's commendable.
	So what?
	Commendable.
	Would you date a guy who doesn't have a passion when it comes to what he does for work?
	Like, you think the car salesman is like, man, I go to every day.
	I'm taking people on test drives.
	I'm so passionate about this.
	You can be a good car salesman, but I don't think most car salesmen are like, this is my fucking passion.
	They do it for the paycheck.
	No, they do.
	It's totally respectable.
	It is respectable.
	I'm not saying it's not respectable.
	I think you got to reassess your standards here.
	I got to be honest.
	I need a guy who's really has a passion.
	What's wrong with dating an average guy?
	Dating an average guy.
	I would love.
	Well, okay, like, do you have a passion for what you do?
	Do I have a passion?
	Because I get to speak, because I get to, I guess, provide commentary on things that I think are important, there's a passion there.
	I mean, I enjoy what I do, but like, would I do it for free?
	Probably not.
	Right.
	Okay.
	That's reasonable.
	I didn't say that.
	I didn't say a guy should like, you know, do stuff for free.
	Let me explain that further.
	If I was a professional surfer, that would be like a passion.
	But like doing a podcast.
	Like, I enjoy what I do, but I don't know if I would call what I'm doing a passion.
	Like, if I was a professional skateboarder, a professional surfer, a professional athlete, I think that maybe for some people, like being involved in the entertainment industry, creating films, that could be a passion.
	I have some components of passion as it pertains to forwarding my worldview.
	I have passion about that.
	But like the technical aspects of doing a podcast, booking guests, not my passion.
	Just being honest.
	Right.
	Do you think other podcasters would disagree with you?
	They don't all agree.
	I don't, honestly, I don't think most people, most podcasters are doing it like it's their passion.
	It's a hobby.
	Maybe it's a hobby.
	It's a hobby.
	I don't think they're like.
	Okay, we'll use the word hobby.
	That's so interesting.
	I feel like I see a lot of passion.
	From who?
	From you hosting the show.
	You get so impassive.
	I think my speech is impassioned, but the actual all that goes into doing the show, I'm not sure if there's.
	If you could be doing anything, would you be doing this?
	No.
	Oh, if I got caught like a crypto pump, like if I bought Bitcoin in 2020 if I bought Bitcoin in 2013, I definitely wouldn't be doing this.
	Maybe I could still be doing content creation, but I wouldn't be going through the, like, dealing with, no offense, all y'all.
	Y'all have been pretty cool, but trust me, I would not be talking to strangers if I had like 100 million Bitcoin.
	Are you into crypto?
	I mean, that's passionate about crypto?
	No.
	No?
	Not at all.
	But I knew about.
	Here's the crazy thing.
	I passed on crypto in 2013.
	I knew about Bitcoin, and I was like, hmm, I should put a thousand in.
	Do you know how painful it is to be like, now I'm doing a podcast and I'm like dealing with all y'all?
	But I could have been like multi-multi-multi-millionaire off of a thousand dollar investment a decade ago.
	It's still valid.
	I launched very into the middle.
	Oh my God, get out of here.
	It's called Golf Coin.
	Okay, chill your fucking hell yeah.
	Golf coin, guys.
	Join the Telegram.
	Okay.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	Can I make one comment?
	Sure.
	Let me ask you this question.
	So if a guy made all that money and he's now sitting, does it, would you be working or no?
	I'd love to be working, yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, well, no, no, no.
	Oh, if he were doing that.
	Oh, if he had the funds to take care of you.
	See, I don't like that phrase.
	That phrase bothers me.
	Because the only thing I think you said, you don't know if you could ever fall in love with a guy.
	So does it bother you that you might be living together and you like spend too much time around each other?
	I think that that's spending time with someone.
	Again, I think that that's very different than being inseparable.
	Like, isn't that what falling in love is?
	No, that's obsession.
	That's lust.
	So then what is falling in love to you?
	So.
	I have a chat coming in.
	One sec, guys.
	It's the next one.
	Yo, Jones, thank you, man.
	Nico, Chair 7 has more red flags than Germany in 1939.
	Newsflash, no one at the table, rates above a four.
	Good times.
	You had something to add?
	yes um i've noticed you talked about how a lot of men are get up like get obsessed with you I feel like I have noticed that you base a lot of your worth based on what other people think of you or the actions they take towards you.
	Interesting.
	And in my experience, I've had men get very obsessive over me, men who I have just not given the time of day, not responded to, you know, things like that.
	And I definitely noticed that more unstable men are a lot more obsessive, have a tendency to be a lot more obsessive.
	So I'm wondering, like, you have all these really high standards for what you'd ideally like in a woman.
	What kind of woman would those men want?
	That's a very good question.
	You're saying like the types of men that would fall into a really quick answer on this.
	I'm not saying this to be rude.
	We've spent a lot of time talking to you.
	I'm going to try to open it up to the rest of the panel.
	Give her a quick answer, and then I'm moving back.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay, so What would he, like, what would he look like?
	Like, what would he be doing?
	What would he look like?
	What would he be a woman and a human being?
	Yeah, so, like, if you got that, no, it's okay.
	If you got that $100,000, like, whatever, everything, perfect man.
	What would, if you saw him in public, what would the woman he be with?
	So, yeah, I think that maybe that would be somebody that's like as maybe has similar interests to him, has similar income to him, to be honest.
	You know, maybe it's a little bit different in terms of him making a little bit more.
	And definitely, you know, a lot more successful than I am right now.
	And I'm not acknowledging, you know, I'm not denying the fact that I need to get my life together.
	But, you know, there's a lot that I'm trying to do.
	So I'm just, I'm going from there.
	So that if that someone answers your question.
	Claim donated $200.
	Chair 7.
	How can you have a head that big with a brain that small?
	Red shirt would sell the V-card for a G-Wagon and a penthouse.
	Stop the cat.
	Late flight.
	Early morning.
	Gonna miss the roast.
	Oh, shit.
	Yo, thank you, Clan.
	Appreciate it.
	You guys want to respond to that real quickly?
	TTS?
	Um, no.
	Thank you for your comment.
	Believe what you want.
	Boom, Clan.
	You just, they just roasted you.
	Believe what you want.
	Okay, I want to go to you really quick.
	Me?
	Yes.
	Oh, hello.
	It's Emma, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Emma, so you've been writing down long notes.
	Maybe we can't linger too long on all of them, but what do you have?
	What do you have?
	You were writing down notes.
	Oh, well, I told you I was going to bring my notebook to you.
	What are your notes?
	What you got?
	Disagreements?
	No, kind of just.
	So, like, the I wanted to ask her if she was also happy with her physical beauty because she made a comment about it earlier.
	I just let it go.
	I mean, they're just like things for me to ask and bring up.
	Basing her worth off of external validation, unstable men are obsessive.
	Any disagreements with me that you wrote down?
	Okay.
	You do have one disagreement with me, though, which is what?
	I do.
	What is it?
	That you wouldn't take a bullet for someone you married, right?
	Married.
	Yeah, or not dating.
	Dating.
	Yeah, I wouldn't do it.
	Why?
	At least I'm honest, right?
	I mean, yeah.
	I'm just asking why.
	You're allowed to have a little bit of a bad thing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, before I'll answer, I will 100% get into it.
	I'll answer it.
	I do want to go around the table, though.
	Do you want your guy or whoever you're dating to be willing to take a bullet for you, starting with you?
	Can you turn your body this way?
	Yes.
	Well, if I honestly thought about it for myself, like, I don't know what I would do when it really came down for it.
	So, no, I wouldn't expect that.
	But I would for my family.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I'm not sure.
	I'd have to be put in the situation.
	Maybe I'd push them.
	If I get hit, I get hit.
	But actually, I'm not even answering the question.
	No.
	No.
	You don't want your person I'm dating.
	Well.
	Well, if it was my husband, yeah.
	If you're a boyfriend or husband.
	Long-term husband.
	I would want myself to take a bullet for you.
	Jump in front of the bullet.
	Yeah, I would want my husband to take a bullet for me.
	I wouldn't expect it at all, but I would definitely want it.
	Because I feel like I would do the same for my partner.
	100%.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just like she said, like, I wouldn't expect it because, like, you know, if that didn't happen, it's not like I would be upset if you didn't take a bullet for me.
	But yeah, I think it's really important that when You have someone like that that you care about in your life.
	It should be very clear how much you care about them and how much you are willing to protect and go through things with that.
	And I would take a bullet for him too, potentially.
	But the thing is, in this scenario, only one person gets to take the bullet.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	You can't both take the bullet.
	No, I meant vice versa.
	I would as well.
	You would take the bullet.
	Yes.
	Even if he didn't want to take the bullet.
	Would you take the bullet for a guy who doesn't want to take a bullet?
	I wouldn't be dating you.
	I wouldn't be dating you if I didn't want to take a bullet for you.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Do you want a guy who will take a bullet for you?
	I feel like I do because I feel like if you're going to take a bullet for the United States military, like you could take a bullet for me, your wife.
	Like, okay, especially if I'm going to give her a job, Brandon.
	That's a funny point, right?
	Yeah.
	Like, come on.
	Sure.
	Or if you would do it for the country you want to do.
	You should then take bullet.
	I want real quick question.
	Real quick question.
	Let's just say: the guy that you're dating, would you give it up if he took a bullet for you?
	And survive.
	You know what?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	You know what?
	If you're shot for me, you deserve it.
	You know what?
	No, no, don't cut out.
	You're dating a dude who's going to stage a shooting.
	Oh, Malayo.
	He's a special Bexardist, so I will know if it's real.
	No, he really gets shot, but he's that desperate.
	He's taking the bullet.
	No, okay, listen.
	I'll call Baxies if I find out it's premeditated.
	No, but you don't.
	But he took the bullet for you.
	No, listen, like, it has to be like, there's a bad guy, right?
	And they're about to be like, we're going to kill her.
	He stages that shit.
	Like, he has a friend that you don't know about who's got a gun.
	And he's like, okay, I'm going to get some.
	Okay, he has to get hit in a vital area and live.
	Vital area.
	Okay, so it can't be like the foot.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not screwing somebody.
	I'm not going to get away with the foot.
	Would you do BJ for the foot?
	I'm just going to.
	What kind of woman do you think I am?
	I don't think for any kind of woman.
	I'm just asking if he gets shot in the foot, that's maybe a BJ.
	A blowy.
	I'm not answering that on that.
	Okay.
	Listen, a vital area shot for me.
	I will.
	You know what?
	That is my one condition, okay?
	Like, I will.
	I'll so he could die.
	Like, he could have died.
	He could have died.
	It's like the artery in the leg.
	Like, you can die from that.
	You know what?
	It's like, if you are going to actually, like, I'm serious, not some stage thing.
	Like, I mean, if you're actually.
	You wouldn't know.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	My mom used to be a private investigator.
	I'll have her call her cop friends on that shit.
	And I'll be like, help me out.
	I want to do a whole analysis just to see.
	Okay, what about you?
	No.
	I love that question.
	Yes, I would.
	Did you do that?
	Yeah, I would do it too.
	You would take the bullet.
	Yeah.
	But you want a guy to take the bullet.
	Yeah.
	Look, in chess.
	Let me start by saying this.
	In chess, you lose if you sacrifice the king to save the queen.
	First off, that's number one.
	So.
	Good.
	Yeah, she could take the bullet.
	She can take the bullet for me.
	I'm not taking the bullet.
	Can I?
	I'm not.
	Look, but here's the thing.
	Most guys will never dare actually admit this.
	You know?
	Like, guys won't admit certain things.
	Like, a guy isn't going to admit if it's been a minute, if he's had a dry spell, he'll fuck a fat chick.
	Guys aren't going to admit certain things, you know.
	But I'm that dude.
	So, yeah, she can take the bullet.
	I don't care.
	I'm not taking the bullet.
	She can take it.
	That's fair.
	Can I ask her a question?
	Even if we have kids, son.
	Even if you have.
	Even if she's giving me three kids, I'm like, I need a couple more.
	I asked him if she was pregnant.
	Would he take the bullet for her?
	You know what?
	No.
	Fuck it.
	Quadruple.
	Who inside right there?
	Genghis Khan.
	Do you think Genghis Khan is taking the bullet for one of his concubines?
	Hell no.
	That's a concubine.
	Genghis Khan had like dozens, maybe hundreds of wives.
	Yeah.
	Do you see yourself as Genghis Khan?
	I'm not Asian, but yes.
	No, but look, I'm not trying to have a bunch of different women, but individually.
	But yes, like Genghis Khan.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And so, but what do you think?
	You disagree with that.
	No.
	So I'm thinking about it.
	Do you think it's beta?
	Do you think it's beta male?
	It's beta.
	No.
	No, she's a dumb kid.
	No.
	Isn't it more.
	So I don't, by the way, just to be clear, when it comes to the beta alpha shit, I don't actually believe, like, I don't, I would never call myself an alpha male.
	I don't, it's cringe.
	It's super cringe.
	Yeah.
	I don't even really buy into those kind of categorizations.
	But, but, you, my position would be it's definitely it's definitely more alpha to be like, yeah, she can die.
	I can get another woman and have reproduce with her.
	That's more, that's the like alpha.
	That's like the caveman sigma male grindset.
	So you sound like Andrew Tate now.
	How's that Andrew Tate?
	I don't think that's Andrew Tate.
	Doesn't he call himself an alpha male?
	Andrew Tate would probably, Andrew Tate would lie.
	Andrew Tate would say, it's my duty as a man to protect a woman.
	I will give my life for a woman.
	I'll take the bullet.
	You know what the fucking truth is?
	I guarantee you, Andrew Tate is not risking.
	Like, I'm being fucking honest.
	He says that shit because women want to hear that shit.
	He's not risking.
	He's got multiple women.
	You think he's giving up his life for some chick?
	Wow.
	It's cap.
	He's not doing it.
	Andrew, I'm not saying that to insult you, but it's, come on, Andrew.
	That's a good point.
	I'll risk my life for some Romanian girl.
	Come on, bro.
	No, you're not.
	Get out of here.
	No, no, no.
	Can I play devil's advocate for one moment?
	Sure.
	Okay, so don't they say, and like, that like originally when like, the arguments come up and stuff that like they don't want women on the front lines because technically, if a man is next to a woman in combat, he'll go to protect her instead of doing his duty.
	And so isn't that?
	Your natural instinct as a man is to protect the female.
	Yeah, it's natural.
	He ain't natural, I think so, but i'm just trying.
	Devil's advocate, i'm not.
	I think I think there there's look, there's something in men that's benevolent, where we want to protect uh, I don't know if weaker is the right, right word no, we would like a child like, we like a child, we would protect a child from harm, or we would protect like if, if it's, I don't think I don't know if it's weaker or like younger, there's some, there is something in men there but um, so would you take a bullet for your child?
	Probably okay yes okay, I agree, that's valid.
	Probably, that's a little bit different.
	But so the mother?
	But it depends, there's qualifying.
	Like the interesting kid on like, is he my heir?
	Like, is this kid my heir?
	And like heir to what?
	To the throne or some shit?
	To the, whatever studio?
	The heir to whatever dynasty?
	No, but is my kid like a fuck-up?
	That's like doing drugs and shit.
	Damn, you take the bullet, he can take the bullet, she can take the bullet, whatever.
	That's such a mic drop.
	But if like, it's my kid, my kid and he's a fucking g, maybe in the leg, maybe in the leg, maybe i'll take the bullet in the leg.
	Okay, At least you're honest.
	Look, honesty's.
	A guy could sit here and just lie to you.
	Oh, yes, of course.
	I would.
	At least I'm honest.
	I respect it.
	The honesty, not the fact that you would maybe let your child die.
	Don't you think that that's better, though?
	Like, don't you think that a guy who's honest about that is better?
	Yeah, I'm lie.
	He could lie.
	Yeah.
	I think no matter what, male or female, we all kind of value honesty, whether we give it or not.
	Right, right.
	Seriously.
	But let's be real.
	I'm sending some bullets back the other way before anything, anything happens.
	So you know what I mean?
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm going to try to stop this shit.
	I'm not going to just sit there and let something happen.
	I'm sending some bullets back in the other direction.
	Okay, you're making your case better.
	Yeah.
	That is much better answer.
	I like the first line of your argument, which was you don't.
	I'll tell you this.
	If somebody hurt my kid, like, I'm going to get revenge on that person.
	Like, I'll give him revenge.
	I would hope so.
	So he takes the bullet, but you're going to, I'll get revenge on you.
	Okay.
	You'll avenge you.
	You'll avenge me.
	You'll avenge.
	See, like, let me ask you guys a question.
	If I was dating any of y'all, and we were, I'm your husband.
	You love me.
	And somebody killed me, but they got let off.
	You know, some bullshit.
	You know, they get let off.
	Are you going to avenge me?
	Absolutely.
	Are you going to go kill me?
	Are you going to kill me?
	Like, prime.
	I don't know.
	I get it.
	Somebody kills my kid.
	The system won't do anything.
	It's a life.
	They're being debted.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Good talk.
	Absolutely.
	You guys, come on.
	You guys would be on Tinder within a month.
	Come on, be honest.
	I've never met up with that.
	Yeah, you guys aren't avenging.
	I'm going to go.
	I'll try my heart.
	Yeah, I don't want you.
	Okay, you're not going to be able to do it.
	I'm not going to let you get away with this.
	If somebody kills me, you're my wife.
	You better go kill him.
	I'm not going to go on Tinder.
	You guys won't be on Tinder in a month.
	So if your wife dies and then a girl comes in and she's like, I'll sleep with you to make you feel better.
	Would you screw the girl or would you be like too sad avenging your wife?
	You know what?
	I'm a gentleman.
	I'll wait.
	The night of the funeral, I can.
	Yes.
	The night of the funeral.
	Not before.
	Because I'm a gentleman.
	I'll at least wait until the funeral is over.
	Maybe at the reception.
	Oh, okay.
	At the funeral home.
	At the funeral home, I think that's fair game.
	Like the reception after the funeral.
	Brian's like, this is what she would want for me.
	This is what she wants.
	She would want me to be happy.
	She would want me to be.
	Yes.
	I'm going to say one thing.
	Chivalry is dead.
	Shivery.
	This is why I'm not having kids.
	Wait, why?
	Why?
	Just because how everything is now.
	In terms of like dating is what it was years ago.
	The shivery.
	Like when I see, yes, exactly.
	Chivalry.
	Shivery.
	Like, it'd be awesome.
	Like, I love when I see two elderly people still in love and like, you know, slow and like Costco shopping together.
	Like.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's cute, but I don't know.
	World's kind of low-key doomed.
	But do women deserve chivalry is the question.
	Depends on the woman.
	Yeah, depends on the woman.
	Which, do you deserve chivalry?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Because I cook, clean, you know.
	Are you still a stripper, though?
	No.
	I've been out of it.
	I work in schools with children.
	Do you wear that?
	No, I don't.
	I cover all my tattoos.
	I down.
	I don't have my makeup like this.
	I hide my ears.
	I hide my tattoos.
	I look completely different.
	You hide your ears?
	I have my ears shut.
	Oh, you have the.
	Yeah.
	I take out my piercings.
	Time and place.
	Time and place to look a certain way.
	It's kind of like when you go to a funeral.
	I think chivalry is dead, and women killed it.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Would you consider yourself chivalrous?
	What do you mean?
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, would you consider...
	Hold on.
	Like, in your past dating history, do you think you were chivalrous?
	Or do you feel that you should have been or not?
	answer that two hundred dollars brian you need a zin a white monster a sports jacket and a crypto portfolio you're on your berylian air grind set stay with it sigma king did you send this in before or after i called you out No, thank you, Andrew Tay.
	Appreciate it.
	Sorry, what was your question?
	Like, would you consider yourself chivalrous?
	Or do you think that the women that you've dated in the past deserve chivalry?
	So what is chivalry?
	Like, is that opening car door, flowers?
	Yeah, like, all those cute things like that.
	I would say in a relationship that I'm a provider.
	Like, if I'm dating a girl, I'm just going to take care of everything.
	But, like, flowers, I'm not like, I don't know.
	That's kind of like, eh.
	Yeah, he's going overboard.
	He's trying to woo her.
	Like, I already got her.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Do you think we should bring it back or that there's a need to?
	No.
	Okay.
	Maybe for like 1% of women.
	Like, 1% of women deserve it, and then the rest probably not.
	Okay.
	Like, she probably deserves chivalry.
	Although, like, the secret stuff's a little astrology shit.
	It's a little, I don't know.
	Oh, but no.
	Do you have crystals?
	Do you have rocks and shit?
	Minerals?
	No, I'm just saying that sometimes it can be difficult for me to choose a specific man-made religion.
	So I kind of take disciplines and morality from the ones that resonate with me or the ones I grew up learning.
	I have a different way.
	But it's like, okay, my thought on this, though, when it comes to chivalry, if we're looking at what is traditional, like, are women traditional anymore?
	I don't really think so.
	Chivalry is a component of traditional behavior from the men's part.
	It takes too to tango.
	Like, if I, you got to be deserving of it.
	Yeah.
	Now, don't get me wrong.
	Men know what works.
	Women still appreciate all those traditional male gender roles.
	It still works.
	It's still good.
	Like, it's probably the optimum thing in terms of, I mean, simping can go too far and it can make you look like a sucker.
	But there's actually some women who are, like, turned off by flowers.
	Like, they think it's extra, but not all women, but I just don't think, like, chivalry, you want a guy to do all this shit, but women aren't traditional.
	You don't move traditional.
	That's fair.
	So, for example, a girl could have a roster.
	She could be sleeping with one or multiple men and then be going on a date with a guy.
	Should that guy be chivalrous on the date?
	Knowing, let's say he doesn't know, but like if you have a, let's say you have a bird's eye view, you're looking down at the world.
	You are playing a video game or you're God or whatever.
	You're looking down at the world and you see the chessboard.
	And you see a woman who's sleeping with three men.
	And then she slept with a guy in the morning, 11 a.m.
	And then she has a date with a new guy for 7 p.m.
	That guy doesn't know.
	Should he, from your third bird's eye view perspective, should he be chivalrous towards her?
	I mean, no.
	Probably not.
	I mean...
	Because she's not doing what?
	Because she's not showing him how much she appreciates it.
	By having sex with all these other men, she's not like it's not, it doesn't seem like it's something that she cares about if she's willing to be having sex with other men.
	Uh-huh.
	So, really quick.
	Yes.
	Yo, Bobka, thank you for the raid, man.
	I really appreciate it.
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	Really quick since we're here.
	Captain Awesome says AI is advancing quickly.
	When AI takes over jobs, then whose jobs would be easier to take over?
	Men's or women's?
	Who thinks men's with AI?
	And then who thinks women's jobs easier to take over with AI?
	Are we gonna read the gender?
	Okay, I think it's women's island.
	Can we define those jobs?
	Let's not.
	You want to define the jobs?
	No, I mean, the men's jobs, women's jobs.
	Like the one you're talking about, those that are statistically more male versus those that are statistically more female.
	I just want to define, just for operational definition purposes.
	Okay.
	I could probably do both at the same time.
	Of all the jobs that men have versus all the jobs that women have, if AI starts being more prevalent, for which gender is AI going to be more prominent in terms of taking over that gender's jobs.
	I think a lot of office work is going to disappear, so probably women in that regard.
	Right?
	Like monotonous data entry type things.
	I think AI is going to take that over really quickly.
	Okay, cool.
	Anybody else?
	No take?
	Okay.
	Wait, so we're talking about bullets.
	Right?
	Chivalry.
	Chivalry.
	You're talking about bullets.
	Chivalry.
	Yeah.
	Also, have you guys?
	I have in my notes here something about a queen sacrifice in chess when a player voluntarily lets the opponent capture their queen.
	The player offering the queen sacrifice does so to try to gain an advantage, like more material, a better position, or checkmate.
	Look, in the life, life is like the chessboard.
	Is like a chessboard.
	As the king, you have to sacrifice the queen.
	Right?
	You know, I have no comment.
	Yeah.
	Who's seen the House of the Dragon?
	Who's a Game of Thrones?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	King Viseris.
	King.
	He's the king.
	His wife is pregnant.
	He's got to choose between the kid and the.
	He chose the kid.
	Both of them ended up dying.
	It was very fucked up.
	There was a lot of blood.
	Very dis okay.
	Never mind.
	You got tough ground.
	That's true.
	Well, in a situation like that, like the kid should come first.
	I think the kid should be the priority.
	Well, in that case, the kid is the error.
	Yo, chat, if your wife is pregnant and it's between the doctors, they're like, we can only save one.
	Do you save the kid or do you save the wife?
	What do you do?
	Q, what'd you pick?
	I'm saving my wife.
	I think I'm saving.
	I think I got to save the wife.
	I'm saving my wife.
	I think I got to save the wife.
	We can have another baby.
	Well, if the baby's not born, yeah, Still in there.
	It's like a pro-life question.
	Especially in modernity.
	Hard a wife is to find.
	Yeah.
	If I got one, I'm saving her.
	Might not get another one.
	Chat, do you pick the kid or the wife?
	Like, it's the kid's not born yet.
	It's still in life.
	It's still.
	I mean, you know, that's a hard one.
	I would leave it up to my wife, though.
	But ultimately.
	DNA test first.
	Somebody in the chat said $500 fine says DNA test first.
	That's funny.
	Wait, if it, wait, To the guy who said DNA test first.
	If, if, hold on.
	If it's not your kid, would you want to keep it?
	Don't you kind of want.
	But she cheated on you, bro.
	Well, I mean, you're going to be.
	So kind of you keep the kids.
	So what you want to do with the kid?
	You keep the kid.
	Gonna put the kid up for adoption.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	I'm not going to raise the kid, but the fuck?
	She's trying to cuck me, bro.
	She's got to go.
	She's got to go, right?
	She's got to go.
	I don't got to do it.
	The doctor can do it.
	Yeah, I probably wish you.
	I would not murder my wife for infidelity.
	I just make that clear.
	I wouldn't murder her.
	Your future wife watching.
	I wouldn't murder her, but we would not be together any longer.
	Save she cheated.
	Save the kid.
	That's an interesting one, though.
	$500 fine.
	Yeah, you got to save the kid, right?
	If it's your choice, damn, that's crazy.
	You would be so.
	You got five minutes to pick, Q. Think about it.
	Chat, you have five minutes to pick.
	You do a DNA test, and you have only five minutes to make a decision.
	You're like, she cheated on you.
	She fucked another dude.
	You've been supporting your wife this whole time.
	And that's another man's kid in her.
	Take them both out.
	What the fuck?
	Take them both.
	What the fuck, Q?
	Damn, that's crazy.
	Old school.
	No, the kid.
	The kid is innocent.
	Q, the kid is innocent.
	The kid isn't innocent.
	I do think the kid isn't innocent.
	That's my rival at that point.
	That's your rival.
	Wow.
	That's a child.
	I mean, hey, wait, yeah.
	Like, the guy who was sleeping with my wife is my enemy.
	Why would I want his kid?
	So the child?
	You could give it up for adoption.
	No, you can get rid of both.
	Oh, damn.
	Oh, heartless.
	That's cold, Q. Very cold.
	Holy shit.
	Yeah, but you could just move.
	Like, the kid and the kid, like, say that dad's not in the picture, so then the kid's just, like, adopted.
	And it's like, rival, what?
	He's going to fucking.
	What's he going to do?
	It would bother me.
	He would just bother you?
	Yeah, it would bother me.
	I'd be like, that little nigga's still alive.
	Jesus.
	That's crazy.
	Damn.
	Wow.
	Oh, my God.
	Red hole in your head.
	Hold on.
	Damn.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	I think in the heat of the moment, though, a lot of people would be like, save the kid.
	Save the kid.
	Anyways, whatever.
	This is getting crazy.
	This is wild.
	The bullet.
	The bullet.
	I don't know.
	Why should the guy take the bullet?
	Should women be virgins?
	How about that?
	Like, wait.
	How does this work?
	Yeah, how to explain the thought.
	So it's like, okay, the ultimate form of chivalry would be the man is willing to die for you.
	Yeah.
	Like, that would be the ultimate, the ultimate manifestation of chivalry and protection.
	He's willing to die so you can live.
	That is protection.
	If we look at bodyguards, like the ones that are like paid, hey, if there's gunfire, you gotta.
	That's protection.
	I don't know if women are holding up their end of the bargain in terms of what men find traditionally valuable.
	Okay.
	Virginity, chastity, that sort of thing.
	Modesty, femininity, submissiveness.
	Yeah.
	We got boss, y'all, boss baits.
	Bodies.
	Titties out.
	Walking around saying men ain't shit.
	Rusty trombones.
	What?
	Rusty trombones.
	Sanchez and you want me to take a bullet Fucking crazy.
	Go crazy.
	After you first asked, you know, you don't win chest by killing the king, I thought, like, what good would it be if the man did get shot?
	And how would that change things?
	And I'm really not sure that it would change things for the better.
	I think it might just make things exponentially harder.
	So, ideally, I still think, like, you should want to protect your partner and, like, you know, take a bullet for your partner.
	Protect your partner.
	I would protect her, but in the scenario where, okay, some psychopath points a gun and he's a fucking sicko, like a demented freak who's like the Joker and it's a game to him.
	And he's like, Brian, choose: do I kill you or do I kill your wife or your long-term girlfriend?
	I'm like, yeah, go ahead, take care.
	That's what I'm doing.
	He'd be like, I'll be sad.
	Heartfreak.
	That's right.
	Proly for him.
	He would kill you anyways.
	Probably would kill you anyways.
	Yeah.
	No, he's like, he has honor.
	He's a demented.
	He's honor, he has honor.
	He's demented.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You know that have you seen No Country for Old Men?
	No.
	With Havier.
	What's his name?
	Chat.
	What's that?
	The actor's name?
	Havier Bardem or some shit.
	Total sicko.
	Total fucking psychopath killer.
	He plays a game.
	He flips a coin.
	Flips a coin.
	He loves killing.
	He wants to kill people.
	It's a sport.
	It's a game to him.
	He flips a coin.
	Whatever they call, I think my understanding, if they call, they get to call it heads, tails.
	If it lands on whatever they call, they get to live.
	If it lands, say they call heads and it lands tails, he kills them.
	He has rules.
	There's rules to his insanity, I guess.
	Okay.
	So that would be the scenario.
	All right.
	Havier Bedlam.
	I don't know.
	You guys haven't seen No Country for Old Men?
	There will be blood.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Long time ago.
	Get on it.
	Get on it, guys.
	I've seen there will be a blood along time.
	Film.
	It's very important.
	Okay.
	I'm a film buff.
	I just asked.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	You're a film buff.
	What do you watch?
	Spice Girls?
	What do you think?
	Oh my God, so rude.
	No, I love old movies.
	Like what?
	Like The Batones Bears, Brexit Club.
	Okay.
	Saint Almost Fire.
	All those things.
	I just watched Interstellar for the first time, like a month ago.
	I did too.
	It blew me away.
	I fell in love with that movie.
	Anyways.
	I didn't fall in love.
	I fell asleep.
	But so you think men should take the bullet?
	I think you proposed a lot of good points that I didn't necessarily consider before.
	I've changed your mind.
	So you'll take, if we were dating, you'll.
	I don't know if I'd say I'd change my mind.
	Oh, okay.
	I think it's a lot more understandable that, like, you know, I don't think it's a one way or the other.
	I think, like I said, ideally, I think you should still want to protect your partner.
	Yeah, I would still want to protect her.
	But like in some sort of situation where I could make a determination.
	But it would ultimately, I think, be harder for the woman to kind of recover from seeing that and like from losing a partner and all those things.
	Yeah, I'm doing her a favor then.
	She doesn't have to have to.
	Oh, yes, I'm giving you some credibility.
	Yeah, she doesn't have to go through the suffering and trauma of losing me.
	I'm such a gentleman.
	So gentlemen.
	She can just die, and I can continue, and she doesn't have to, you know, suffer.
	I meant more in the sense.
	I'm such a nice guy.
	Like, if you guys were sharing financial responsibilities or things like that, like, it would probably be a lot harder for the woman to be able to recover from that.
	Like, if the man's no longer in the picture.
	So you're saying the woman should die.
	I'm saying that there are pros and cons.
	Wait, here's another argument.
	Let's say we do have kids, and I'm the sole breadwinner.
	If I die, you're fucked.
	So you should definitely die then because I'm a little bit more.
	I'm more capable.
	I'm more capable of taking care of the kids.
	Look, I don't know how to breastfeed.
	I don't know.
	Can you milk a man?
	I don't know.
	I've never tried.
	Q, you want to.
	What the fuck?
	You can milk a man.
	You should take care of her choice.
	Can you milk a cat?
	A cat?
	Can you milk a male cat?
	No, not a male cat.
	I don't know if you can.
	I'm thinking of the parents with Robert De Niro.
	Wait.
	Oh, no.
	He says in Meet the Parents, he says, I don't know, Greg.
	Wait, what?
	Fuck.
	How does it, Damien, you know how it goes?
	He's like, oh.
	Oh, no.
	He's like, no, he says something like, oh, you can milk anything with nipples.
	He's like, well, I have nipples, Greg.
	Can you milk me?
	I don't know why I'm promoting all these movies now.
	Yeah.
	No, it's cool.
	Good talk.
	Movies are awesome.
	It's good.
	Also, my body, my choice.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Always.
	Yeah.
	When it's only your body.
	I would maybe take a, I'd probably take a bullet for my dad.
	Okay.
	I would definitely take a bullet for my dad.
	Not my mom.
	I'd take one for my dad.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	You just slide it in there.
	Uh-huh.
	Good times.
	Yeah, give me another argument.
	Come on.
	Me?
	Come on, you can't.
	You came on to debate me about the bullet.
	Come on, give me something.
	Just the bullet?
	No, not just the bullet.
	I don't know.
	Like.
	Why?
	Are you a feminist?
	No.
	Okay.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Why?
	Well, I didn't have anywhere I was going with it.
	You go ahead.
	No, I'm not a feminist.
	Someone wrote this.
	I want to read it.
	Anyone can jump in front of a bullet or a knife and be a hero.
	Try working your life away day in and day out for 40 years at an unenjoyable job just to take care of people that scarcely appreciate you sacrificing your entire life to their well-being and only tacitly resent you for not earning more or achieving more, having no real sense of you as a human being with his own thoughts, feelings, and needs.
	Jeez.
	Damn.
	What's the username?
	Shit.
	Who hurt you with that?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	That got heavy, bro.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Was it hard?
	Wait, the username?
	There's no username.
	Oh, okay.
	Never mind.
	You said a comment, right?
	It was a...
	I'm not going to share the username.
	It was a...
	Somebody sent it to me.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Do you have anything else on that?
	I mean, not really.
	That's a sentiment I've heard from my dad my whole life.
	Is that like he's constantly felt unappreciated, whether it be by his first wife, by my mom, by his parents?
	Like, I've heard my dad say that his whole life.
	So I also think my $200.
	If there was a large-scale war, should women be drafted for military service?
	If no, should women be required to have children to restore the population?
	Who Mike Jones?
	Yo, Mike Jones, thank you for the message.
	Going around the table, should women be drafted for the military?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's a hard one.
	I'd say CDI should be even.
	Yeah.
	I don't believe in drafting, period.
	Well, granting that it exists and it's not going to be something that's taken away, would you be in favor of it?
	I mean, yeah, I think if one gender gets drafted, it should be both genders.
	Okay.
	More people, more populists.
	I think men and women are equal in different ways.
	So I'm going to go ahead and say I don't think women should be drafted because that's not our strong suit.
	It would probably hurt it more than it helped.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think women should be drafted, yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm going to say no because I don't feel like, again, like she said, men and women are very different, extremely different.
	You're in the military, though.
	You're in the national government.
	Okay.
	I think women should be drafted.
	Me too.
	Send a feminist award.
	Send them.
	Okay, yeah, correction.
	The feminists more.
	Yeah, they could be.
	I was trying to show women.
	This was an argument made against the Equal Rights Amendment that second wave feminists had to deal with because the 14th Amendment, which already granted equality to women on a legal level, was already there.
	But a lot of these second wave feminists were arguing for the Equal Rights Amendment, which would have caused women to get drafted.
	So, especially during the Vietnam War.
	Yeah, I agree.
	We should send the women to fight.
	We should.
	They can eliminate the feminists from the chain school.
	Yeah, only the feminists can be sent to sent.
	But the second component of that is: should women be required.
	So, most of you said yes, but what about because one of the arguments you hear when it comes to why women shouldn't be drafted is, well, if the women go and die, how do you repopulate the population?
	And this was perhaps the case in like more, like way, way back.
	Like, if you had smaller groups of people, if the women fought and they died, you cannot really repopulate.
	But if this is the argument posed, oh, well, women need to be the ones that can repopulate, should women be required to have children via like a pregnancy draft?
	So you could pick who you, but you would be forced to get pregnant, basically.
	Like it would be consensual sex, kind of, I guess.
	I mean, you'd pick who if you're dating a boyfriend, but it's like, oh, you're dating a guy.
	Okay, no more birth control.
	You have to try to get pregnant.
	Would you guys be in favor of the pregnancy draft?
	I hate the idea.
	No, I understand the purpose.
	Realistically, logically, it would make sense in that scenario, absolutely.
	But personally, I would hate that.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm going to give like the libertarian perspective in that I think more regulation is generally bad.
	So, more laws being implemented is generally a bad thing.
	You know, you look at prohibition that didn't stop alcohol consumption.
	I think when it comes to people's like personal choices, the government really needs to stay out of that.
	So, you know, if people want kids, they should have kids.
	If they don't, they don't.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	We have a message here from Graffito.
	Thank you, Graffito.
	Graffito Tact donated $200.
	Proposition: Every man should be able to carry his woman to safety in an emergency situation, like the house is on fire and she's passed out.
	So he needs to be fit and she must avoid becoming obese.
	Yeah.
	True.
	Dope.
	All right.
	We have a chat here from Bruno Marsh showing love.
	Bruno Marsh showing love.
	Hey, been watching like a ninja.
	Podcast is dope.
	Keep that groove going, man.
	Yo, Bruno, thank you so much for the $100 soup chat.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Also, remember, Chivary is dead.
	Bruno.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Bruno for the $100 soup chat.
	And thank you, Graffito, Michael Jones, for the recent TTSs.
	Thank you, guys.
	Really appreciate it.
	Reed is 100.
	TTS is 200.
	All right, let's get into the questionnaire.
	We got a lot to get through.
	All right.
	Men are not insecure for.
	You know what?
	Hold on, nah.
	Let's start.
	Let's start.
	Yeah, we'll start down here.
	Transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners, to which, Toria, you disagree.
	And then, Alora, you also disagree.
	Why do you guys disagree?
	Well, I think it should just be the same as anyone else.
	You know, like if they want to disclose it, then disclose it.
	If they don't, then don't.
	Yeah, I felt the same way about that.
	Should be the same.
	Yeah.
	Trans or not?
	Yeah, trans or not.
	If you don't want to disclose it, don't.
	If you do, do.
	What do you mean, trans or not?
	This would only apply to trans people.
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	I have the same idea about both.
	Wouldn't you?
	What would it matter to me what partners they had before?
	Wait, what?
	Is that the question?
	No, that's.
	If you're transgender, the question is, like, should you tell a person that you're going to go on a date with or you are dating that you are trans?
	Because maybe you're passing transgender.
	I definitely read that wrong.
	I thought it was.
	I thought it might be a little bit more.
	I was concerned for it.
	Yeah.
	No, they should definitely disclose.
	Exactly.
	If they're trans, but not their past partners.
	That's how I read that.
	That's what I thought it was.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's what I thought it meant.
	Transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.
	Yeah.
	Period.
	Well, maybe you meant genitalia or like biological sex.
	I don't know.
	So you think if a trans person is on a dating app that they should say before even meeting up with the person, BTW, I'm trans.
	Yeah, they should let them know.
	Agree?
	Yeah, out of safety, too, for them.
	I was just going to say that.
	Out of safety above.
	Yeah.
	And I think that's like violating.
	It's just like it's violating someone's trust.
	And that's like a lie.
	Yeah.
	Let's see here.
	Alora.
	So the statement is men are physically stronger than women.
	Alora, you disagree.
	I didn't think I circled that one.
	Did I cross it out?
	Wasn't there a bunch of people?
	You circled it.
	You did?
	You circled it.
	There's one above it that says possible to be sexist towards men.
	And you circled that one, but you crossed that one out.
	Did you mean to cross out the men are physically stronger than women?
	I think so, yeah.
	Okay, so you think men are physically stronger than women?
	Yeah.
	Okay, we'll go.
	We'll skip to the next one then.
	Possible to be sexist towards men.
	You disagree?
	You circled it, but then you crossed it out, but there's confusion if you meant to cross out the next one.
	Do you think it's possible to be sexist towards men?
	Yeah, I do.
	Oh, okay.
	Toria, you're the only one on this one.
	Why do you disagree?
	No, I think it's possible.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought it had a double negative.
	Okay, I didn't read well.
	I was like, let's finish it.
	I don't know.
	I'm not going to get it like that in my head.
	Can a woman be sexist towards a man?
	Yeah, I think definitely.
	All right.
	It works both ways.
	Making it simple, man.
	POSSIBLE TO BE RACIST TOWARDS WHITE PEOPLE, TO WHICH, MARINA, YOU DISAGREE, AND THEN... IS IT NOT POSSIBLE OR IS IT... DO YOU...
	Oh my God, you guys are killing me.
	She was accusing me.
	It's possible to be racist towards a white man.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Is that what it was?
	Possible.
	Is it possible for a black person to be racist towards a white person?
	Yeah, I think racism is even throughout all race.
	Okay, because you circled.
	You disagree.
	Oh, sorry.
	All right.
	Men are the primary.
	You guys, I feel like you guys just don't want to argue with me.
	Men are the primary victims of war.
	Toria, you disagree.
	Allura, you disagree.
	Are or not?
	Bro, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Directions.
	And then I explained it to you.
	Directions.
	If you disagree, if you disagree, circle with the corresponding number.
	Hey, there are double negatives.
	It's not a double negative.
	For some of them, and I was like, wait.
	How is it a double negative?
	The first question, the first question was like, does it not do it?
	Okay, so men are the primary victims of war.
	Yes or no?
	Um...
	I would say it affects everyone.
	Okay.
	But maybe men affects men first, and then primary?
	But then it also affects, you know, women who are, you know.
	But it's not as bad.
	But it's not as bad.
	Right?
	If I get shot, if I get shot and killed, does it affect my mom as much as it affected me?
	Well, I guess you wouldn't be here to be experiencing that.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	Would I be the primary?
	I'd be the primary victim.
	You said, like, it can have a trickle effect, of course.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but primarily it would affect me because I'm the one who got shot.
	And she would just feel the effect.
	But I think you're saying emotionally.
	In war, some women get essayed, is what you're going to say, right?
	Which is true.
	But typically, I'm not aware of any war where there are more women who get essayed than there are men who die.
	And I'd actually be prepared to say there's, I've not studied every single war in the entirety of human history.
	I would be prepared to say that every single war, there have been more men who were casualties.
	Or I'll just, no, I won't even say casualties.
	There were more men who died than there were women who were essayed.
	I don't know the statistics for that, but.
	Well, I mean, it's pretty easy.
	Typically, like women get to, they flee the front line typically, and sometimes invading, I mean, it depends on the nature of the war, but invading countries sometimes do cross paths with, well, oftentimes cross paths with civilians.
	But like most people retreat into the interior of the country.
	I mean, sometimes countries, an invading force will take over the entire country, but oftentimes the women and children will flee.
	They'll go to a different country.
	So there's just way more men who are encountering the actual combat who are actually, you know, being in encountering the enemy who would be the ones who would be essaying these women.
	Like, look at Genghis Khan.
	There's like millions and millions.
	He probably killed more people than.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait, I'm actually curious about this.
	It is kind of a heavy topic, but like normally I frame it.
	What do you think is worse?
	Ten soldiers who die, ten male soldiers who die, or one woman who gets essayed by a belligerent soldier?
	I don't know how to answer that.
	That's like the train question.
	Like, do you kill your besties or it's like the trolley dilemma?
	Which one's worse?
	10 soldiers who die, but that's also like human history.
	I think on the show before they had talked about the greater male variability hypothesis, you know, where like most men won't reproduce, basically successfully reproduce, and it's been like that throughout human history due to intersexual competition between men for women.
	So I think it's sad that men die so often, you know, and you have men at like both ends of the bell curve.
	Like you have a high amount of men that are geniuses, and then you have a high amount of men that are intellectually disabled, like I was talking about earlier.
	But I think, you know, and that's because of that competition.
	But I think, unfortunately, if you look at this morally and you have to choose one, you probably would say the men dying.
	Even though I feel like people in society would say the woman, though.
	Like they all.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait.
	The woman.
	Not the woman.
	Sorry.
	The 10 soldiers dying would be worse.
	Yeah, definitely.
	You're losing 10 lives.
	Yeah.
	10 soldiers.
	Yeah, I think ethically 10 soldiers.
	10 lives.
	10 soldiers.
	10 soldiers.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I've talked a lot today.
	No, it's okay.
	What a podcast.
	SA does happen a lot in the military.
	It does, but it also happens outside the military.
	You know what I mean?
	So.
	What about one for one?
	Like one man, one essay.
	Yeah.
	One person killed.
	That's still.
	Versus one essay.
	That's still one life right there.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Does that make it more challenging for you?
	A little bit, because I feel like the woman lives with that forever.
	In the same aspect, you could say the family of whose man that died that was also lived with that forever.
	I don't know.
	To be charitable, a woman who's been essayed, that would be harmful also to the family.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it would.
	Like the brothers, fathers, mother, sister, that would be hurtful to them that their sister child was victimized in that way.
	Yeah.
	But they could go to therapy.
	If a life got lost, there's nothing you can do.
	They can't get brought back.
	You could at least go to therapy for essay and not for nothing.
	There could be a lawsuit and you could be rich also on top of that.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't think you don't know.
	I'm just saying, I'm trying to think of a positive.
	I don't know about that argument, but I don't know if essay would ever be justified.
	You don't have to.
	You never know.
	I think, though, and tell me if you think I'm wrong, because I feel like Brian and I may see eye to eye on this.
	Don't you think that this is going to sound bad?
	Wait, can I ask one favor?
	One favor.
	I want you.
	To be concise.
	But you include a lot of preambles when you speak.
	Like you gave two preambles there.
	Yeah.
	Just say what you're going to say.
	Okay.
	You don't need a whole preamble.
	I know.
	It's because of my narcissism.
	I know.
	I didn't.
	I like to mouth off.
	Anyway, anyway, so I was going to say, I was going to say.
	So do you think that whether sexual assault has happened is like relative to the individual?
	Like do you think it's based on perception?
	Does that make sense?
	I'm just I'm trying to play devil's advocate here because a lot of the Me Too stuff, there were accusations coming out, right?
	And it was like no due process.
	And so I'm.
	Yeah, I think there's false accusations.
	Yeah.
	But I think there is like an objective standard to like, has this person been essayed?
	I think yes.
	But so I'm the what's the question?
	No, I just I I I'm asking whether you think that somebody could like believe that like a man raping them is the same as like being groped or touched.
	Like if they would be if they would like be equated like as equal types of sexual assault.
	I'm just playing devil's advocate.
	I'm saying do you think it's as bad?
	Do you think that rape?
	Please don't we told you not to say that word.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Sake rape or essay.
	I'm sorry.
	Sexual assault.
	I'm sorry.
	What is your question?
	You know what?
	It's fine.
	No.
	Oh my God.
	Now you're going to say it.
	Just say it.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Do you think that some, I'm playing devil's advocate.
	Do you think that some women maybe no, you're asking me a hypothetical question.
	What is your devil's advocate position?
	So that maybe some people, some women, if they're on drugs, maybe they imagine the fact that they're sexually assaulted or they hallucinate the situation.
	Are you asking me if this is a phenomenon that happens?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Is that your question?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Even women can go to therapy and there's this certain thing where like the therapist will like introduce what is it?
	Past fuck, what's that?
	Do you know what it's called?
	They go to therapy and it's like past memory.
	Fuck.
	Chat, can anybody in the chat?
	You talk about repression.
	Chat, anybody in the chat know what I'm talking about?
	They go to a therapist, fucking hypnosis or some bullshit.
	Eye movement desensitization area.
	Yeah, no, it's like a repressed memory.
	Yeah, repressed memories.
	Repressed memories.
	Yeah, but I think like some of that can be inserted.
	There is a phenomenon where a memory can be inserted into a majority.
	Oh, like a false memory.
	Like a memory, a memory that can be.
	It's a false memory.
	It's also true that generational trauma can be passed on in that way.
	So say like your mom went through something like that and you didn't necessarily, but just based off of maybe you heard it in the background or like you can feel like it happened to you as well.
	Is it like confabulation or something?
	Like you'd have to know exactly what that's called.
	I'm not sure if it would be confabulation.
	I get what you're saying, but I don't actually think it happens like that.
	It's more so like it can change like stress responses.
	It can alter stress responses genetically.
	That would be the basis of it.
	There is, I mean, there's a Wikipedia article on memory implantation is a technique used in cognitive psychology to investigate human memory.
	In memory implantation studies, researchers make people believe that they remember an event that actually never happened.
	That's the false memory.
	False memories that have been successfully implanted in people's memories include remembering being lost in a mall as a child, taking a hot air balloon ride, among other things which could be both good and bad.
	So, I don't know.
	I don't think they do that.
	I don't know if they do that in therapy.
	I do know that that's a cognitive psychological phenomenon.
	There are some therapists that will like they'll implant memories.
	uh no they're sociologist richard blah blah blah an expert on false memories due to coercive interrogations as well as suggestive therapies um I don't know.
	I'm not an expert in that.
	What is your question, though?
	I want to make sure that I word it correctly because I think it's a sensitive subject.
	Don't preamble.
	Just say.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	No, I mean, that's what I was asking.
	I was asking whether you think that some females hallucinate their rape, their sexual assault experience.
	Sexual assault experience.
	I said rate.
	Right.
	R-A-T-E.
	I didn't.
	I didn't.
	I said.
	She said.
	Okay.
	Now I'm being gaslit here.
	Okay.
	You did not say rate.
	Total gaslighting.
	No, right then.
	Yeah, I didn't say.
	Just say grape or SA, please.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Let's move on.
	Why are you bringing that up, though?
	I'm just, are you trying to get a gotcha?
	No, I'm just, I'm wondering, like, what you think about, like, if you think people's perceptions, like, formulate how we are dealing with this situation, because there wasn't any due process that was going on during Me Too, no one was investigating these accusations.
	And I'm just wondering, you know, if you think that some people, whoa, hold on.
	You're saying that any woman who brought forth a allegation of SA prior to Me Too, which is like, what, 2017?
	It was never taken seriously.
	No man has ever been convicted of a sex crime until 2017.
	You're actually cooked.
	I don't mean to be insulting, but that is such a just factually incorrect thing to say.
	So you think, if I were to present evidence to you that says in 2000, there's hundreds, if not thousands, of criminal cases that have been prosecuted and there was a prosecution and there are men who are in prison from the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s who were prosecuted correctly for sex crimes.
	You think sex crimes have not been prosecuted until 2017.
	They have.
	I'm saying.
	You literally just said, no, they haven't.
	No, I'm saying that when Me Too started, it's kind of like you could just come out and say that somebody sexually assaulted you, and then they would get, you know, like a lot of hate for that without any kind of due process happening.
	I'm not saying that it didn't go on.
	There was a lot of due process prior to that, but I'm wondering as a society, like what kind of direction we're heading in terms of that being a thing.
	You know, because we don't know if people are just imagining these events.
	I'm not saying that I agree with that.
	I'm saying that there could be some people that, you know, maybe they had a false memory implanted because that does happen in therapy.
	Or they make a false accusation.
	Yeah, or they make a false accusation.
	Yes, does that happen?
	But also, are there women who are genuinely essayed?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Of course, yeah.
	I don't understand why.
	No, I just.
	Are you trying to get a gotcha?
	What are you doing?
	No, I just wanted to hear.
	I just wanted to hear how you were thinking about all this because, you know, we were kind of talking about it.
	I'm not trying to get anyone upset.
	I'm just.
	I don't know what you're just kind of annoyed not going to lie I just need to step away for a second.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry.
	Bro, be crashing out.
	Huh?
	Bro, it's just like, I don't know. I don't know.
	Somebody else want to fucking talk.
	I'm just.
	Yeah.
	I don't really know how to follow that.
	Yeah, I don't know where to go from here.
	I'm really, my goal is really to just get people to think.
	That's all.
	What's the next question?
	Has anyone experienced love at first sight?
	Or do you believe in it?
	Yes.
	No.
	Well, I believe in attachment at first sight.
	I don't think you can really love someone just by laying eyes on them.
	What is attachment at first sight?
	No, it's called limerence.
	It's just like when you see someone and for no reason you become a person.
	Oh, infatuation.
	Yeah, like for no reason you become obsessed with them, usually because of like.
	There's a reason.
	Well, yeah, there's usually some type of situation that happened in your life that made you attracted to that person.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like so obsessed with that person that you feel like you need to.
	Positive illusions.
	Yeah.
	You have an idea who that person is.
	Yeah, like you build a perception of them up in your head and put them on this pedestal and like, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, I believe in that.
	I think in order to like really love someone, you have to, you know, spend time with them.
	That's really it.
	Okay.
	Do you want to talk about necrophilia too?
	While we're.
	Is there any other like kind of heavier topics?
	You want to talk about child abuse?
	What else do you want to talk about?
	No.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	Trafficking.
	We could talk about trafficking too.
	What do you want to talk about?
	No, I've been talking a lot.
	I want to hear you talk about it.
	Talk about Michael Jackson.
	What do you want to talk about?
	Michael Jackson.
	Still very much alive.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, here.
	I'm going to move it on.
	I'm going to move it on.
	All right.
	There is no gender wage gap.
	Toria, you disagree.
	Anybody else disagree?
	No gender wage gap.
	Laura, you think there's a gender wage gap?
	Carrie, you think there's a gender wage gap?
	Okay.
	Why?
	I mean, you said it earlier: 80 cents to a dollar.
	Oh, I don't believe that.
	You don't believe that it exists?
	That that's true.
	Hmm.
	Why?
	What is the other thing?
	Well, first, you tell me what the gender wage gap is.
	For the same job, women will be getting paid less.
	Or, for example, they'll inherit some kind of company or whatever and then it tanks once they inherit it.
	Or it's like at the war or inherited companies in the war?
	Let me let a couple chats come back to it.
	Thank you for donated $200 drug test these broads care 7 we're thinking you are retarded It's okay We're all a little bit arslered.
	I'm Arsler, too.
	It's all good.
	We have something in common, I guess.
	The next one, I'm just waiting for the next one to come.
	Fine.
	Claim donated $200.
	Big head, small brains starting to make sense.
	Uh-uh.
	In case no one covered it, 14th Amendment was about slavery, while 19th was women's right to vote.
	No conscription ever brought up.
	Where is Andrew?
	Oh, Clain, welcome back.
	Yeah, I don't know, man.
	Andrew would be losing his mind right now.
	He'd be fucking chain smoking, I'll tell you that much.
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Yeah, okay, wage gap.
	What's the wage gap?
	I think it's shifted, honestly, because I think there's been more opportunities for women to make more money.
	So I feel like it's almost shifted in a way.
	Kind of like what I was talking about earlier.
	Sure.
	You think there's a wage gap?
	Yeah, I know there's a wage gap, but it's not for the same reasons, you know, that I think maybe other people here think it exists for.
	It definitely is there, though, but it's because women and men go into different jobs and they work different hours.
	You know, it's not there for a prejudiced reason, I'd say.
	But it does exist.
	I agree with you.
	I think the differential here is if we use the term wage gap, it indicates that it's sort of like a snuck in, it's a bit loaded because with the wage gap, it's indicating, okay, well, the person with the same exact job, same job, same, all other criteria, they're being paid way less.
	There's an earnings gap between men and women.
	An earnings gap because what the wage gap, which is really an earnings gap, does is it takes all the money that men make, all the women that money make, and it just does a one-to-one comparison.
	It doesn't factor in hours worked, type of job, location, geography, the education received prior to that.
	It doesn't factor in any of those variables.
	It's just like all the women in the United States who are working versus all the men in the United States who are working.
	It's totally unfair to do that sort of comparison.
	Men go into different fields.
	And so if you actually do the control for it, it shrinks to one cent.
	It's just one cent.
	If you do the same job, they've been in the field the same time, working at the same company, it shrinks to just one cent.
	Right.
	And also, I think the gender, even if there was a gender wage gap, which there isn't, it would just be explained away by, it would be explained away by women's mating preferences.
	Probably.
	Interesting.
	You want a guy who makes $100,000.
	You're currently broke.
	If I'm broke, I definitely can't date a girl who makes $100,000.
	Women typically, when they're high earners, they want to date a guy who's on their level or above, who's making as much as them or above.
	A guy who's an attorney, actually, here's a really interesting thing I just thought about the other night.
	And you guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
	A woman who makes enough money.
	So you guys know how, I'll get right back to that, but you guys know how typically for most families, it's going to require two incomes.
	It's going to take two incomes to have like kids and raise a family, right?
	For a lot of people, that's the economic reality.
	There's going to be need to be two incomes.
	Once a woman gets into the range, though, where she can support, she could support a family on her own.
	So conceivably, she makes so much money, or maybe not, you don't need to make so much money to do that, but she makes enough money that she could have her husband stay at home.
	Not saying she would want that, but she could.
	She makes enough money where he wouldn't need to work and they would be okay.
	Once she makes enough money to do that, she's going to be looking to date a guy who can also do that.
	So, really high-earning women get into a problem there, more so than women who make a little bit less, who would pair off with a guy who he probably would be helpful financially to pair off with a woman who's also working.
	Once a woman makes that level of money, she wants to date guys who they can support a family on a single income.
	Those women are in real hot water because that guy can support a family on one income.
	He doesn't need your money at all.
	He doesn't care at all.
	But those women want to date those men.
	Those women are going to, and those women who are probably earning that much are very career-driven.
	A woman who's earning enough money to support a family just on her income are probably very career-driven, probably boss babes, probably a little bit in their masculine.
	A little bit.
	Yeah.
	So the guy who he's making enough money to be able to support a family on his own, he's not going to, he's thinking, I can support a family on my own.
	I don't need her money.
	I'm going to go date a girl who's going to prioritize me and the family and not be so focused on her career.
	So that leaves a bunch of women who earn this level of money with a lack of prospects because the guys who can support a family on their income, he doesn't need you.
	He's going to go date a barista.
	He's going to date a woman who wants to be a stay-at-home mom, who's not prioritizing her career over family and kids.
	I don't know.
	That thought crossed my mind recently.
	But also, when it comes to the wage gap, you guys want men to pay for first dates.
	This would explain away the wage gap.
	You want men who are successful.
	You're attracted to ambition.
	You're attracted to men who work hard.
	When it comes to men occupying positions of like CEO jobs, men who are executives, men who are at the highest echelons of corporate life, men who occupy the more prestigious jobs, you guys are attracted to that.
	You guys reward that.
	But you as women, our attraction to women is never based on your status or your success.
	We don't care.
	We'll date the hot 20-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A.
	Don't care.
	Like, no, oh my God.
	Yeah.
	She's a VP at a court.
	Don't care.
	It doesn't make a woman more attractive.
	It could be a plus in terms of, like, if you're bringing some money to the table, it can be a plus, but like, at what cost?
	Because most guys, like, if you're a boss babe, you're an ICU nurse who's like seeing people die and shit, trauma.
	I don't know.
	So I was in a relationship, a very healthy relationship, where my ex kind of lost his job for three months.
	And I was a travel nurse.
	So I was making like really good money at that time.
	And he was very upset that, you know, they just happened to the job let him go.
	And it wasn't his fault.
	Like, he was a contract.
	He was a third-party contract.
	And I felt really bad for him.
	And I was like, you know, like, and he was constantly searching for jobs.
	Like, you know, he had a master's degree in like homeland security.
	He was trying to find a really good job in that field.
	And I completely understand that.
	And I kind of like, we took care of him and us together and like in our apartment like paid our bills.
	Like he paid his own bills, but like I kind of like took care of us until he was able to get back on his feet and he did get back on his feet.
	But like I didn't look for anyone else.
	I kind of like supported him and I support him emotionally as well.
	I was like, you know, just trying to make him feel better.
	And also like my current boyfriend, we've talked about our salary.
	He makes way less than I do.
	And I didn't know that until after we met and after, and I really don't care.
	Because I know I can support myself, but I'm not like, I'm not trying to show that off.
	Wait, didn't you say your last boyfriend, he lost his job and you had to hold it down?
	Yeah, for like three months.
	And then you dumped him?
	No, no, we broke up.
	No, my first boyfriend was the one that I dumped.
	It was a four-year relationship.
	And then my last boyfriend, I had.
	You were taking care of him?
	When he lost his job, yeah, because we were together.
	We were living in an apartment.
	Wait, how soon after he, how long were you together?
	Three years, the second, the second year.
	And then he lost his job after two years of us being together.
	So you stayed together for a year after he lost his job or how soon after he lost his job did the breakup happen?
	Yeah, we broke up, I think about a year after.
	He lost his job.
	Yeah, because we broke up for personal reasons.
	I was still more career-driven, and he was too.
	And he lives in Alabama, and I live in Massachusetts.
	We met when he was in Massachusetts, and I was traveling, and I stopped traveling to go into critical care.
	And long distance was not working for us.
	We've tried it before when I was a travel nurse, and it just.
	Travel nurse.
	Yeah, I was a travel nurse for a couple of years when we were together.
	And so we broke up because it wasn't going to work out long distance and stuff like that.
	So not because of financial reasons at all.
	Like we never argue about our finances.
	And I never put that on him.
	So you chose your career over at a relationship.
	Correct, yeah.
	And so this time around, my current boyfriend, I'm not doing that.
	Like I'm at home.
	I want to get married.
	I want to have kids.
	I want to have a house.
	Like, I'm 30.
	Like, I'm ready to settle.
	And, you know, I'm kind of like comfortable where I'm at.
	You know, I mean, of course, I'd want to further my education.
	Like, I'd like to be a nursing professor one day or go into like flight nursing or something like that.
	But I can multitask.
	I can do that while I'm at home.
	I can take online classes, you know, and be with someone.
	Like, I've, I just, yeah.
	I stopped because I was in a healthy relationship before with this ex-boyfriend.
	And I gave that up because I wanted to go to the business.
	In terms of both of your, you're, with the guy you're currently seeing, in terms of both of your career trajectories, are you going to make more than him?
	Oh, yeah, 100%.
	You're okay with that?
	Like, I don't judge.
	Like, I was into him before I knew our finances.
	Genuine desire.
	Yeah, and honestly, like, he treats me very well.
	It's another healthy relationship.
	He's very respectful.
	Like, he takes care of my needs.
	I'm a needy person.
	You're needy.
	I'm an apprentice sometimes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I mean, I work 12-hour shifts.
	Like, I would like someone to take care of me.
	I want someone to cuddle me.
	I want someone to take care of me as well, especially if I don't take care of myself.
	How can I take care of other people if I don't take care of myself emotionally, physically, mentally?
	Like, I need someone there.
	Absolutely.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it's, and the fact that he, like, he caters to those kind of needs that I can't do myself, I appreciate that.
	Like, I don't care about your finances at all.
	Okay.
	No, I really don't.
	And if anything happens, I know that I can cover both of us, provide for both of us.
	I think that's a good narrative because outside of the internet, I don't think a lot of people are aware that it's actually not as serious or as highly prevalent as we like to talk about it.
	Act like women don't date men when they make less or act like once a guy loses his job that the relationship ends abruptly right then and there.
	Because that's not the case.
	I mean, obviously, if you're in a relationship, then you guys have probably communicated.
	You know the status of your finances.
	You know what you have planned for one another.
	You know what you see the outlook of the relationship being.
	So, of course, any intelligent woman, when you hit, you know, potholes, bumps in the road, whatever the case may be, you're going to stick by your man for as long as you know you can before you're overwhelmed and say, okay, this is not working.
	And I don't think a lot of guys out there understand that, you know, so it's good that you were able to demonstrate that based on your situation.
	I think it also proves a point, too, that the whole time he was working towards it, it's not like he got comfortable just living off of you.
	And that's a big difference, too.
	Because, and that goes for a woman as well.
	As soon as you get comfortable living off of that person, that's where it becomes kind of like, okay, now this is the situation everybody talks about.
	Like, this is the problem.
	But if you're actively working towards it and you know that person can build, you know, they're driven to do so, absolutely stick to it.
	Like, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Anybody else have any thoughts?
	Brian wants me to ask a spicy question.
	I don't have any though, but do you guys have anything in mind?
	I know he had a spicy question.
	No, he wants me to ask a spicy question.
	I could ask about how you guys think about cheating culture.
	Cheating culture.
	I've never been cheated on and I've never cheated.
	And sorry, I didn't, I don't, sorry.
	And I kind of brought that firsthand in the relationship.
	It's like, I don't want to get hurt because I don't think I'm a hurtful person at all.
	And I don't feel like I deserve that in general.
	So I would 100% expect my partner to not do it.
	And that's what I talked about with my previous relationships and my current one as well.
	And just we both agree on terms.
	Like no one wants to get cheated.
	Like that sucks.
	I got a question.
	I saw this.
	I saw this video yesterday.
	And they were going around asking women and men if the Grim Reaper came to your door and offered to take you or your husband, who would you tell the Grim Reaper to take?
	Me.
	And we can start right here and go around.
	This is the Grim Reaper.
	So your husband?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Husband.
	Husband.
	I'd say take me.
	Take you.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's like the bullet question.
	It is.
	Yeah.
	And I have the same answer.
	What was your answer for the bullet question?
	I wouldn't expect my partner to do anything, but I know I would.
	I would go.
	I would take me, you know.
	You would take you.
	But I would want my partner to do the same.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I'd want me.
	You?
	Okay.
	Yeah, with the bullet question, it's more like, I just want you to protect me when there's like an emergency.
	But if the Grim Reaper came to me, I would say me for two reasons.
	One, because like, okay, he's going to take the bullet.
	I'll take the Grim Reaper.
	But two, I think I could talk my way out of it.
	Like, I'd be like, no, seriously, though?
	Like, hey, I'd be like, come on, Mr. German.
	You think you could talk your way out of the Grim Reaper?
	Well, I'll tell you what's working in your disadvantage because the Grim Reaper is still male.
	He'd be like, hey, you got to give it up.
	You ain't doing that.
	He's swiping you anyway.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	So I would.
	Myself, basically.
	Yourself?
	That's all I'll say.
	If it's my time, it's my time.
	Yeah.
	But it don't have to be your time.
	It could be your husband.
	Yeah.
	But I agree with you.
	It's the same thing.
	Like, the bullet thing is like protection.
	This is like, I'd rather, like, I put myself than my husband.
	Oh, okay.
	I feel like he, I mean, I, yeah, I feel like my husband will be a better like provider and protector for the kids.
	Okay.
	So the women who chose husbands, y'all don't love y'all husbands.
	I don't want a husband.
	You don't want a husband?
	I don't want a husband, so I'm going to take it.
	Oh, damn.
	Well, I guess you don't love your husband?
	I don't think I don't really want to get married, but I do have something to say, though.
	Which is interesting.
	Yes.
	I forgot her name.
	The Monroe Piercing.
	Oh, maybe.
	I have a question for you.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, Carrie.
	So you said you would.
	Wait, take your husband or not take your husband?
	No, I wouldn't take my husband.
	You wouldn't?
	No.
	But.
	Oh, wait, you're waiting.
	Okay.
	So.
	No, if I could pick, I would pick me, not him.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But the thing that's a little interesting to me, you said that, like, you never loved a man and that whole love thing.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, it's interesting to me if the whole, like, it's your husband, you have kids, but you don't love him.
	Like, you feel like you're gonna end up with someone that you don't love.
	Technically, by saying, pick you over your husband, that actually is love.
	So that's where I'm a little confused.
	Sacrifice.
	Yeah, because I think that I like to take risks.
	And I mean, I guess that would be love, you know?
	Yeah.
	No, that would be love.
	It's an act of love.
	But I think, you know, I would do it just because I would like to take on the Grim Reaper.
	Oh, my God.
	You know?
	And be like, I don't know, like encounter the Grim Reaper.
	I don't know.
	I think about it that way.
	Like, I don't really.
	Because if he, if, okay, because, like, if he die, like, if my husband dies, I don't know.
	I mean, I'm an agnostic, so it's kind of like when you're dead, you're dead.
	Like, it's not like I'm going to be able to talk to your spirit or something like that.
	You get to pick, like, technically, love, like, real love, in my opinion.
	Love is pain.
	Love is sacrifice.
	Like, yeah, real morals.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, like I said, you know, I would like, well, I mean, I would want to, and also, I'm, like, super tired right now.
	But I, yeah, I mean, I don't, again, I think it's like the intention behind the act.
	I just think that it would be really cool to like take on the Grim Reaper.
	I mean, I'm looking at it that way.
	But I see what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Because, you know, if you love someone, then you sacrifice yourself for them.
	And also, maybe I should have looked at the question more seriously.
	Yeah, I mean, you said it in kind of a loving way.
	I thought you loved your husband for a second.
	I mean, like I said, it's like love is a complicated thing, you know.
	Like, I have all you need is love tattooed on my torso and after the Beatles song.
	And, you know, it's like it's, I mean, it can mean a lot of things, I feel like.
	So, like, I can demonstrate acts of love for somebody.
	Again, I don't think that it necessarily equates to seeing that person as like this like perfect entity that like doesn't do anything wrong.
	And, you know, and I also think of it in a hundred.
	But that's not, yeah, that's not love.
	I would argue that the opposite is actually love.
	If you're like infatuated with somebody, though.
	Yeah, but if you reference an infatuation, then we both understand it.
	That's not love.
	If you're talking about you know the person's flaws and you know everything about them, what's wrong with them and you still accept them anyway?
	Yeah, that's love.
	Well, okay.
	Yeah.
	If that's how you're defining love, then yeah.
	How else would you define love?
	Well, I would also think of like empathy because somebody who I feel like love comes with empathy.
	And there's.
	Do you not have empathy for the person?
	You would have empathy for the person expecting all of them.
	Well, if she's a narcissist, she don't.
	No, I'm looking.
	Again, I'm looking at this from like a, I guess maybe I'm looking at this like too scientifically.
	I don't know.
	Because, you know, there's a, there are differences.
	There are different types of empathy.
	There's cognitive empathy, which is what, like, you know, a lot of people have.
	And then there's emotional empathy, which is entirely different.
	That's like vicarious emotional experience with the individual.
	So that's like you can't help but feel what the other person is feeling.
	I feel like that type of empathy is like synonymous with love.
	Where like when they feel pain, you feel pain.
	When they feel happy, you feel happy.
	When you feel sad or when they feel sad, chair one, you are beautiful.
	I love your jewelry and VRIs.
	Would you date a guy with a house, a boat, and makes $200,000?
	Who is your chair one?
	I have one.
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	Oh, chair one Sim.
	Yep, you got a sim.
	Sim.
	I mean, yeah.
	Come through.
	Let the grim work.
	It's crazy.
	We have a chat here from Jordan.
	Brian Myron called Ice on Daisy, which is hilarious.
	Oh, yeah.
	I saw that.
	Oh, that was funny.
	During our last stream, F that 304.
	Also, got to support my girls, Kitty and Allura.
	When is the FNF and whatever collab happening?
	Yo, Jordan, thank you so much for the Streamlabs message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you so much, dude.
	Yeah.
	Do you know that guy?
	That's my friend.
	Jordan.
	You guys know him?
	She doesn't know him.
	I actually.
	Yeah.
	I've known him since I was 16.
	Wait, you don't do OF?
	No.
	You being honest?
	Yes.
	Have you ever done OF?
	No.
	Are you looking at me to ask me?
	You guys are friends, right?
	Because I have.
	Oh, you have OF?
	I used to.
	You used to?
	Yeah.
	Did you ever make a guest appearance on her OF?
	No.
	No.
	I started it when I was 18 and I stopped.
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do, but I used to do.
	Honestly, dancing is a lot easier.
	Dancing, I could swipe it away.
	Then do I?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to just.
	I apologize for the delays on those guys.
	I was away from the table.
	Let's get back into it.
	Let's finish up the questionnaire.
	Women are not oppressed in the United States.
	Toria, right?
	Am I saying your name right?
	You disagree.
	Women are not.
	I think you might be the only one who disagrees.
	Wait, women are not.
	Yeah, you're the only one.
	It is.
	Circle if you disagree with the statement.
	So, women are not oppressed in the USA.
	So if you circle disagree, it would indicate that you think women are oppressed in the United States.
	Which is your position, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, how are women oppressed?
	My brain is not working right now.
	I ill cooked.
	Damien, Damien, Damien, I don't know why I repeated it here.
	We need energy shots.
	You're taking an energy shot and you're taking an energy shot.
	Performance time.
	Can you pour it into the little mini cups?
	They get to take little mini shots like they're little dwarves.
	You guys are little dwarves.
	Who else wants a shot of energy juice?
	Yeah, let me get one too.
	You're taking it.
	You're taking it.
	If you say you're tired on the podcast, you got to take one.
	She's taking one.
	Perfect.
	While you are in a comatose state, why don't you explain to me, though, how women are oppressed?
	Brain.
	Hello, or...
	Are you on drugs?
	Hello?
	I am.
	I am.
	Wait, oh, I need to pass this.
	You're the only one who said yes.
	So you're the only one you can't pass it.
	There's no one to pass to.
	He's asking like just two, Damien, just two shots.
	Do women have rights here or do they not have?
	Well, do women not have rights.
	Well, are they oppressed?
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	We're not quite.
	Well, she also said women, she disagrees that women have equal rights to men in the USA, so we'll just combine those two.
	That's 11.
	Chris, you also think women do not have equal rights to men in the United States.
	What can I say?
	Hold on.
	Do you want to just give it to her and we'll just pass it down?
	Yeah.
	Pass it down.
	Thank you.
	Was that one of the little small ones, Damien, or the from a bottle?
	Celsius.
	Okay, so it's not much.
	Enough caffeine to get you guys going.
	Okay, here, I'll skip to you while she gathers her brains.
	So, wait, were you asking me a question?
	Women have equal rights to men in the USA.
	You disagree.
	Why is that?
	So I messed up.
	I was thinking something else.
	What were you thinking?
	Or last year?
	Just how it's technically not a right, so I filled it out wrong.
	What is?
	In other words, I feel like men think they could have two girlfriends, but it's wrong for a woman to have two boyfriends.
	Like, let's say you're in a relationship.
	They want two girlfriends, but you can't have two boyfriends.
	But that's not a woman's.
	It's, yeah.
	So I goofed up on that.
	Sorry.
	I mean, and a woman could have that exact same dynamic.
	She could dictate that dynamic to a man.
	She could be like, you're going to be monogamous to me, but I'm going to fuck other dudes.
	No, but I'm saying it's crazy that men think it's not the same.
	Like, I actually had this argument earlier today.
	I mean, we could probably argue that.
	Yeah, definitely could argue that.
	We could argue it.
	We could argue that.
	So you're saying, like, let's just say you're allowed to have two girlfriends.
	I didn't say that.
	Okay.
	I think you're saying you were saying how there's a difference.
	Men point out how there's a difference.
	Yeah.
	And I don't think that's wrong.
	So the difference would be men have a natural revulsion to female promiscuity.
	Here's why.
	So because of paternity uncertainty, if a woman is sleeping with 10 different men, who's the father?
	Okay, what if they don't want children?
	I know, but it's not the point.
	It's psychological.
	That means we still behave as if that's the case, even if that's not the case.
	Right.
	Well put.
	Very well put, Q.
	We still behave as if that's the case.
	It's kind of like, for example, why are men attracted to women with large breasts and wide hips?
	Because this woman is conceivably more fertile, better suited, the big breasts, more milk, wide hips, better birthing fucking canal.
	But when a man is engaging with a woman just for a casual sexual encounter, he has no intention of having a child with her.
	But the things in which make him attracted to that very thing are related to her ability to give birth.
	Childbirth.
	But he's like, I don't want to have a kid with her.
	But like, he's attracted to her and wants to have sex with her because of those markers.
	Okay.
	It's evolutionary psychology.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And generally, expecting fathers and then fathers who are like very monogamous, they have very low testosterone levels too, compared to men who are single, which they've found.
	I don't know if you're familiar with that.
	No, yeah, I'm familiar with all of it.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait.
	Let me ask.
	Okay, so there is actually something completely random.
	And I wonder if you heard this study.
	There's been a new study that women that are married with children compare to women that are single or in a relationship, the woman that is married with the child is more depressed than the other party.
	That wasn't the results.
	No, there's been studies on that recently.
	No, that wasn't the results.
	It was about perception.
	It was women.
	Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
	I know what you're talking about.
	I really hope you do, but it literally said women that have children are married are more depressed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but where did you see that study at?
	Because a lot of times what will happen is the people who report the studies they misinterpret the studies and they say they sensationalize the heading.
	They don't actually read the study to understand what the findings actually were.
	So you could be that's why I'm saying, where'd you see that study at?
	Because if it was by a news outlet or like, you know, New York Post or something like that, it's very, very likely.
	It's a pretty public thing.
	I not like I could search it up right now, but it's pretty public.
	Do you remember?
	You could just Google it and multiple things will come up and multiple studies.
	I've seen similar studies that report the opposite.
	I have not.
	Look, I'll get back on track here.
	So, okay, did you take your energy, Sean, or whatever?
	Women have equal rights to men in the USA.
	Women are not oppressed in the USA.
	You disagree with both of these statements.
	So, in what way do women not have equal rights to men in the USA?
	So, I think naturally, women and men are already different.
	It's not equal.
	How so?
	And there's a lot of also internalized oppression.
	Maybe it's not here anymore, but you know, throughout history, women had to fight for suffrage and do a lot to earn their rights.
	And I think even myself, like, I have some of that internalized, like, oh, I don't respect if a woman is in charge as much sometimes, which I've come to terms with and saw.
	Is there a reason why?
	Because of the way I think I've understood the patriarchy and saw myself through that lens, you know.
	So it's the patriarchy's fault.
	Like, there's been no pattern recognition when you've had like a female boss?
	Hmm.
	Well, I think just like in the past, yeah, noticing that within myself.
	Yeah, so I mean, okay, we can talk about like historical stuff, but like, how about just maybe to make it a little easier?
	Uh, are there any rights that a man has today that a woman doesn't?
	Um, it's changing now.
	Um, like abortion stuff, I'll address that, but is there anything else besides abortion?
	Um, probably are, not thinking of them right now.
	I can give you a moment if you'd like to try to manifest one, but um, okay, well, while you're manifesting one of the ways in which women don't have equal rights to men in the United States today, uh, I guess on the abortion thing, men don't have any reproductive rights.
	So, I actually think this is you're almost making the opposite argument that women have more rights than men do.
	But what reproductive rights do men need?
	They are fathers, they contribute to pregnancy, but they don't have any rights.
	I mean, I guess there's the sign the prenup and there's also that shit.
	They're signed a prenup.
	What do you mean?
	Um, I don't know, come on, please don't play with um.
	Um, I was just gonna say I think that, like on the question itself, and just like something I always try to like, encourage other, like American women to recognize and just like, while we have this moment, is that a lot of the time we're actually really privileged here in America to have the rights we do as females, and there's countries like Iraq and Afghanistan where I literally saw a story of a young woman's tongue being cut out of her mouth for speaking poetry in the public square.
	So we are extremely privileged, even if certain people feel like certain things have been skewed, maybe not in the favor that they'd like, and so that's always something I was trying to like encourage us to remember is that we're actually extremely privileged compared to other countries in our rights and oppression, that kind of stuff, and I actually think that's a byproduct.
	I actually think that's a byproduct of just how privileged you are because you started to create phantom issues, you started to believe that things are actually wrong and want to look for problems in society, especially as women, because you have it so good because, if you could compare the state of American society for women to other countries where women are still second class citizens, you realize like damn we do have it made.
	Like we could easily not have education, we could not be allowed to speak, we could all of these things that women in other public buy yourselves, all of that yeah yeah, I feel like in other countries women are seen as like property almost um, where they they just can't express themselves as much as we are able to hear.
	Like we can, we can wear crop tops, we can like flash our boobs, we can do all that and like we can have these conversations yeah, like openly and not really, and not be persecuted, exactly yep.
	Were you able to in that moment?
	Were you able to think of any ways that women don't have equal rights?
	Well, I was thinking more historically.
	Okay sure, uh.
	Well, i'll quick.
	I'll finish on the abortion thing really quick.
	So like, as woman, once she gets pregnant, pretty much she has all control.
	She has all.
	She has all power.
	She can actually exert massive amounts of power over the man in that situation, um so, but once she's pregnant, she has all the decision making.
	Now I acknowledge that some states abortion is illegal, but a woman could always travel to a state where it is uh legal and certainly states where it is legal.
	There's absolutely no question that she has a hundred percent uh ability to make decisions related to this.
	In addition to that, once the child is born, she can make a couple other determinations.
	There's safe harbor laws so the woman can go to like a fire station and I think 30 days post-birth she can just drop it at the fire station no questions asked, no question can totally uh anonymous total, totally anonymous.
	Just give it up.
	She's not gonna have.
	There's no financial ramification.
	She won't have to pay my understanding, she won't.
	She won't have to pay child support.
	She could opt to adopt it.
	She could unilaterally without the fathers.
	I do think perhaps I'd have to research this.
	It depends if his name is on the birth certificate or not.
	That changes.
	I don't know all the dynamics exactly.
	If they're not married, if they're married, there's a presumption.
	I think, I don't know exactly, I don't know.
	Like, does he have to sign the book?
	I'll know exactly how it works.
	If they're not married, though, the woman has incredible choice when it comes to much more choice as to what she can do with the child.
	Absolutely.
	Now, a father who wants to be in that child's life can intervene in some ways.
	I don't know if there's with the safe harbor laws, if the father would be able to somehow claim the child.
	I don't know exactly what they're saying.
	Again, it depends if his name is on the birth certificate or not.
	If it's on like the hospital note, because then he has more rights to go for that kid or to have claims to the kid.
	I don't know if there are situations where the mom could like prevent the father from like going to see her in the hospital.
	She could probably deny like a given man who's not like she could, she could probably, I'm pretty sure a woman could even deny her husband from being able to go see her in the hospital if she was so inclined, right?
	So I don't know the specifics of like the birth certificate stuff, but they're safe harbor laws.
	They can do adoption, unilateral adoption, and then or they could just choose to get an abortion, get rid of the kid.
	So whereas the man, once the woman is pregnant, your choices cease from conception.
	You have no rights at all.
	Here's what can happen.
	You can ask her to get an abortion, but it's ultimately her choice.
	So from there on out, if she chooses to have the abortion, but you don't want to have the abortion, you have zero say.
	Like, let's say you want her to keep the kid.
	You would have zero say in a state where abortion is legal.
	So there's that.
	So that's kind of one component.
	And then the secondary component would be she has the kid and she wants to keep it.
	You don't want the kid, but she keeps it and delivers the baby and she's going to raise the kid.
	You're now on the hook for 18 years of child support despite your unwillingness to be a father.
	So women can force men into fatherhood.
	And then I think the third thing would be, well, she can give it up safe harbor, adoption, and it can be an uphill battle for the man to actually, if he wants the kid, to get the kid.
	Do you want to offer a rebuttal or a response?
	Or yeah, I'm talking to you.
	Hello?
	Oh my God, bro.
	I'm sorry I'm getting frustrated with you, but like, holy fuck, guys.
	Come on.
	Oh, my God, please.
	Typically, in the conversation, somebody speaks for a little bit.
	I kind of went on.
	The other person responds.
	Or are you just stonewalling?
	Is this what you do in relationships?
	You just stonewall, don't respond.
	Just look at them.
	I hate that.
	I hate that.
	That drives me crazy.
	I mean, I think abortion is a smokescreen.
	Okay.
	The way that I see it.
	It's just like, you know, because it really isn't fair.
	I think that men have very little say in what happens to their unborn child.
	I don't consider myself pro-life, but I do understand how somebody could be pro-life.
	And I wouldn't have an abortion because it's not solely, it wouldn't solely be my child.
	So, you know, how could I exclusively have a say over what happens to that child?
	But at the same time, I don't think making it illegal is actually going to do anything.
	But does anyone other than me want to talk about this?
	I was asking her.
	Well, I know, but somebody had to say something.
	I mean.
	Yeah.
	Nobody wants to talk.
	How are women oppressed in the United States?
	I was saying historically with voting rights, education.
	Yeah, but I didn't know you meant like right now today.
	So women are not oppressed right now.
	I think not systematically, not systematically, maybe, but through, you know, like generational inherited oppressions.
	Generational inherited oppression.
	In some ways.
	And it is internalized.
	I mean, we could get into some historical stuff, but I don't know how fruitful that conversation would even be.
	Do you think women not being able to vote is an example of women not having equal rights historically?
	Yeah.
	Even though they've had the right to, you know, they have had the right to vote for over 100 years now.
	Definitely before.
	Yeah.
	No voice to control.
	Do you think it's unfair that women were able to secure the right to vote without any corresponding responsibility to the country?
	What do you mean, no responsibility?
	Like women don't have duties.
	So women are like children.
	They don't have responsibility.
	You're talking like drafting.
	Yes, I'll explain.
	So men, in order to be able to vote, even today, you need to register for the selective service.
	You need to be subject to the potential of forced military conscription, even today, in 2025.
	Even today, in 2025, there's nothing corresponding that pertains to any sort of civil service for women.
	Women are not required to register for selective service.
	Men's rights organizations have tried time and time again to get some semblance of equality.
	Mind you, feminists have never, feminists who purport to be in favor of equality, have never actually advocated or lobbied for an equalization when it comes to forced military conscription.
	In 2025, women are completely, in a rather privileged sense, they are immune to being drafted to forced military conscription.
	This is rather unequal.
	And I think an advantage of male oppression or an example of male oppression and an example of unequal rights as it pertains to men.
	So that's a bit confusing to me that women, you were able to secure the right to vote, the same right to vote that men have had to die for, you kind of just secured it without any responsibility.
	But men have a responsibility to this country.
	Well, I would say women fought really hard to support that.
	And also, what was I going to say?
	And during that time, women had taken over the jobs while the men were at war.
	So no, they weren't going to war, but they had achieved those jobs.
	Yeah, you're talking during World War II, like Rosie the Riveter.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	If we're talking historically, yeah.
	Tell you what.
	If we let's let's do this.
	Time machine, we send you back to 1939.
	You can choose to be a woman working in a factory making shells or helping make tanks or something.
	Or you could be like fighting in Poland or something and be a man.
	I mean, so you could be a woman and you have to work in the factory.
	Oh no.
	Or would you rather be a soldier?
	a male soldier at that time.
	Which did you pick?
	A woman.
	Oh, okay.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, I don't think women laboring or doing like physically laborious jobs is at all comparable to like the horrors of war that men were victim to or witnessed.
	I'm not trying to compare it.
	I'm saying that was, I think, the more deciding factor.
	Here, let me give you an example.
	Being able to vote.
	Okay.
	Let's say a girl just told me she got essayed and I told her, one time a girl grabbed my butt.
	Like, that's literally what you're doing.
	But you see, like, you see, oh man, these poor men who got like trench foot and mustard gas, well, World War I, mustard gas, or, you know, they died and prisoners of war where they were starved and tortured.
	But these poor women worked in factories and got lunch breaks and smoked cigarettes.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, okay, so.
	Is that a checkmate?
	I'll just take a look at it.
	Can I add a comment?
	I kind of have to agree with you here, and I know that I probably get some hate for this because I am a woman.
	I'm like agreeing that maybe women voting wasn't the best thing.
	I didn't forward that position.
	That's not my position.
	No, I was just going to say that it is kind of crazy to think that it came into play, like women fighting to vote without, like, how you're saying, repercussion.
	Responsibility.
	Responsibility.
	But in the same turn, none of the voting rights that they got at that time applied to them.
	It applied to the men.
	So even their vote at that time was affecting the men, not even themselves.
	So I just thought that I just thought it was a weird parallel.
	Yeah.
	No, but it's like.
	And also, mind you, men only got, like, in terms of the group dynamic, men only got the right to vote something like 50 years before women did.
	So the time period from when all men could vote to when all women could vote was 50 years in the United States about.
	So this idea that, oh, for such a long time, men just had all this power.
	They could all vote.
	Women were like brutally oppressed.
	It's actually not true.
	For most of human history, neither men or women could vote.
	You'd had kings, you had tyrants, you'd have people in power.
	Most men, like peasantry, they couldn't vote either.
	The majority of men were oppressed.
	The majority of women were oppressed in some way or the other.
	So, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So sad.
	I mean, just even historically, Historically, I mean, like, look, there's this meme that I saw was like it was in 1918.
	Oh, this woman couldn't get an education.
	She couldn't vote.
	And then there's a photo of a guy next to her that's like, oh, well, he couldn't, he died.
	Men went to war.
	So it's like, I don't know, it's just an interesting retelling of history.
	Like, oh, men just live these really pampered lives, and they were all really abusive to women.
	All the men were really abusive to women.
	They were all wife beaters, and they lived really nice lives.
	And the women just fed them grapes.
	And the women were just fanning them with palm tree leaves.
	And the women were just in the dark cellar and just beaten by their husbands day in, day out, and they couldn't vote.
	And they didn't have any influence in society.
	It's just a total retelling of history that's completely fabricated and completely bogus.
	The reality is, throughout most of human history, men and women, especially in the peasantry, life was fucking brutal.
	They strived together.
	They had families together.
	And it was a the story of men and women and their relationship was it's not a story of oppressor oppressed.
	It's a story of cooperation.
	Yes.
	But feminists want to tell you, no, oh my god, these men, they're just beating and brutalizing their wives.
	And these poor wives couldn't.
	It's like, come on, what the fuck?
	Ridiculous.
	That's very true.
	A lot of it is well not a proportion are used to, like anything else, is used to stretch a narrative or push a narrative.
	Like men, when I say, I'm about to say men would kill for their wives, and I mean like perhaps in a work sense.
	So you'd have men in America who would go into coal mines and come back, their face covered in covered black, dark.
	Hold on.
	Sorry.
	Not blackface, but you know, they weren't trying to do a joke.
	Like, it wasn't a joke.
	Like, they sucked.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And they got black lung and they were like fucking spent the last five years of their life like literally unable to breathe so that their wife could stay at home and take care of the kids.
	Like these men went into the coal mines, inhaled all these toxins, died at 40 or 50 or some shit, probably suffering like literally lungs on fire, all fucked up, so that their woman was insulated and protected from the realities of the external world and kind of the brutality.
	Most jobs back then were like labor.
	True.
	Women couldn't work 200 years ago.
	There weren't fucking air-conditioned office jobs 200 years ago.
	If you were working 200 years ago, you were like toiling in the fields and doing physically back-breaking work.
	Yeah.
	So I don't think it, I think that would be kind of, look, and I think women were actually involved in some capacity in some physically laborious jobs too.
	But like men, we weren't, like in terms of women couldn't do that.
	One, there's the physical component.
	Like some of these physical jobs women just could not physically do.
	But I don't know if it's oppression to be like, let me ruin my body.
	You stay at home.
	Take care of the household.
	Keep it clean.
	You know, keep the household in check.
	And I'll go out so you don't have to do that.
	Is that oppression or is that male benevolence?
	Plot twist.
	If the men never went to war to save us, we'd never be here complaining about oppression.
	So that's a very strange point.
	No, in a good way, meaning that, like, if we look at it from that sense, like, they literally went to war and died so that we could be here today, like, generational.
	But also, who is instigating this war?
	Like, what would happen if women were leaders?
	I'm not doing more things.
	You know, sorry, wait, continue with your point.
	Like, what would happen if more women were in positions, government, you know, like look at what's that country in Europe?
	Like Switzerland, Finland.
	Ukraine?
	Are you talking about Ukraine?
	I don't know.
	You don't even know?
	You don't even know about the wars?
	Switzerland?
	You mean the famously and historically neutral country?
	Switzerland.
	I don't think they're ran by women either, though.
	There's a country ran by women.
	Switzerland's happiest.
	Who told you this?
	Who told you this?
	Not strongly.
	Well, you know what's interesting?
	They've actually done studies and they've looked.
	They looked at queens.
	They compared queens to kings.
	And they actually found that queens were more likely to wage wars than kings.
	So this idea that, oh, if women ruled, if women were rulers and there was a matriarchy, that there wouldn't be war, there'd still be war.
	Damn.
	They were trying to swing their dicks.
	Oh, or like, I feel like we have had a hormonal response.
	Yeah.
	We have more of an emotional response where men don't have those things come up as much.
	Like, yeah, man, I could be like a little bit.
	Well, I'm not even going to say that.
	I'm not even going to take that position.
	I'm just going to say historically, there have been women who were queens.
	I'm not even saying, oh, they were just more emotional.
	Therefore, who knows what the reasons are.
	And I think men are emotional too.
	I feel like war is literally hormonal.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Government's waging war.
	A lot of it has to do with money, not gender.
	You know what, Q?
	I want to take the devil's advocate position on that thing.
	So, Q, tell me, debate with me on this.
	So, like, men who say women are more emotional.
	I think women are more neurotic.
	Like, personality trait.
	Women, this isn't like an offensive thing.
	Women are higher in trait neuroticism.
	Like, it's a person, whatever.
	They're going to be offended.
	But this idea that women are more emotional than men, I was thinking the other day, I'm like, well, like a really good, I think a defeater to this would be like, okay, well, when it comes to violence, and typically, like, if you act out in violence towards somebody, I think that's an emotional, right?
	And I'm like, okay, well, who's in, and maybe there's a counterclaim to this, but okay, when it comes to prison, when it comes to murderers, when it comes to violent crime, like it's overwhelmingly men.
	And these are probably not like men who are making these decisions when they're committing crimes.
	And they're probably not thinking really rationally or logically.
	There's probably some component of like emotionality, especially with violent crime.
	So I'm like, I sometimes question this narrative like, okay, women are just way more emotional.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah, I get what you're saying, but also you got to look at it as in the context of what emotion means.
	Like, yeah, men get more angry and are more aggressive, but women, in a sense, are also more manipulative.
	Yes.
	And women get upset really easily.
	And women have a higher baseline level of stress due to the pituitary hypothalamic adrenal access.
	So women naturally, when they feel anger or upset, they feel it quicker and they take longer to come back down from that level of anger or frustration than men do.
	And then, in a sense, also, I think another aspect of it is when we look at just the way women perceive, they're a lot more emotional in their perceptions of what their reality is.
	I think that's also another component that most people miss.
	It's not just the emotion that they feel, but it's also the way they look at reality.
	Like, men can sit down and have a logical conversation.
	You can talk to a man, a woman gets ticked off at something that you say that she doesn't like, that she disagrees with, and she doesn't want to be your friend no more.
	She's like, fuck you.
	How could you say that?
	Whereas you could tell a man the truth and he'd be like, um, really?
	That's interesting.
	Okay.
	You know, I might disagree with that, but I don't want to fuck you up over it unless you're disrespecting him.
	Where you get what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	So that's that's the difference.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, also, women are higher in negative emotion.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	That's the stress response.
	Right, right, right.
	Especially after puberty, just to word it differently.
	Yeah, that would be trait neuroticism, more negative emotion.
	All right, well, moving on.
	Adult age gap relationships are 100% okay.
	Example: 30-year-old dating a 19-year-old.
	That's a disagree, disagree.
	Allura, disagree.
	Okay, so disagree, disagree, disagree.
	Why do you guys disagree with the age gap relationships?
	Well, I'm like, for the 19, at least be able to buy a drink, you know, 21.
	Okay, so what about 31, 21?
	Are you cool with that?
	Yeah, I think I'll just be able to buy alcohol.
	Okay.
	I said the same thing later on in the paper.
	I put, I think, 21 plus.
	Yeah, I don't think it's okay.
	I think there's a certain point that, sure, you can buy alcohol, someone's 10 years older than you, but just coming from a relationship where I was dating someone older than me, I was still very naive.
	I'm still kind of naive.
	I will absolutely admit that.
	And I think someone who's older has already gone through that.
	So it's kind of, I guess it's situational, but I don't think it's okay.
	But why?
	Because there's that sense of controlling somebody, right?
	Or having a superiority over somebody in an age gap.
	I'm not saying that's everybody.
	I'm sure there's someone older who won't do that to somebody younger, but there's almost that sense of power, like sense of, I don't know.
	In what way?
	Who's your favorite rapper?
	My favorite rapper?
	Yeah.
	Juice World.
	Is he alive?
	No.
	No, he's dead.
	Give me somebody alive.
	Someone alive.
	Yeah, Kendrick.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you date Kendrick Lamar?
	No.
	Why not?
	You don't like him?
	I like his music.
	I think he's a cool person.
	I'm going to date him.
	No.
	Why won't you date him?
	I think just too petty.
	He's too petty?
	He's petty.
	You're not petty.
	Not really.
	He's too petty.
	Okay.
	He really went on the whole Super Bowl and trolls.
	He was like petty.
	Okay.
	But I'm curious.
	I want to probe because when you say, I'm always intrigued by this, there's this controlling element.
	Like, what does that look like?
	When y'all say control, what does that mean?
	In my own situation, I was 20.
	I met someone who was 30 and we had started dating.
	He would always make a joke that he was raising me.
	He was raising me as his girlfriend to build a bitch.
	Pretty much grooming.
	And my head, I never really thought of it.
	I was just like, I was just really happy.
	I was excited to learn from someone older than me.
	I was ready to be submissive and just like let him lead as a man.
	And I did that and it led me the complete opposite way.
	And that's because I didn't have a sense of grounding in myself and what should what I should be led by and what I shouldn't be led by.
	There was no sense of that.
	So when you're talking about someone who is younger versus someone older, someone's older, who is older, has already gone through things to know that, right?
	To know, okay, I'm going to let this lead me or I'm going to lead myself.
	kind of thing.
	I do think that has to do with gender too.
	Not again, situational.
	Not everybody, but yeah.
	Do you want to say, like, give an example of something that you said he led you the wrong way?
	Yeah.
	In what way did he lead you the wrong way?
	I ended up taking care of him a lot.
	Which were you paying the bills?
	Yeah.
	And I was working.
	I ended up telling him to work with me, so it felt different.
	Wait, work with you on what?
	Like doing DoorDash and stuff.
	So we would at least make money together because I was the only one making money, spending money.
	Yeah.
	You guys were living together?
	At the time, yeah.
	Okay.
	Did he have a health problem?
	Like when you say taking care of him?
	Health problem.
	No, I mean taking care of him financially, emotionally.
	Okay.
	A lot of guys don't want to work.
	Well, yeah, but I'm seeing in a sense of...
	Was he a rapper?
	No.
	Okay, just checking.
	Aspiring.
	You forgot that one song you put out.
	Yeah, like with other people, but he wasn't.
	No, he did it with his friends when they were around.
	We know a lot of people in studio spaces.
	It's LA.
	You're always going to end up in a studio, I think.
	Yeah.
	So my thing is, I hear that, and that can be in any relationship.
	Absolutely.
	Any dynamic.
	It sounds like it's situational.
	But I think it happens a lot more often with younger women and older men.
	In that specific age gap, like he said, or what you said, 19 and 30, 20 and 30.
	Specifically, just because I have that of thinking, okay, I can trust this man to lead me in the right direction and ended up losing everything in like myself, everything we built, because I put my trust that he would lead as a man and do that.
	And I ended up leading as a woman.
	So like he taught me how to do that, which is cool.
	Like, honestly, props to him for that because now I could do that for myself.
	But I don't know.
	But you know what that conveys to me?
	That just sounds like somebody who likes somebody and wants to please them.
	Now, I reduce it to that because, as I just said, I can't see that only being evident in an age gap relationship.
	And I wouldn't attribute that to the fact that you guys had that difference in age.
	To me, it just appears because every woman that I've heard thus far can relate to a story of where she was basically felt like she was taken advantage of or she put her trust in a guy and he led her astray or he did her wrong by whatever metric she wants to utilize.
	And that's simply because you like him.
	So when I say that, you always have to look at what's going on with you psychologically too.
	Now, is it easy to get a woman to do what you want her to do when she likes you?
	Absolutely.
	You can take advantage of that.
	You can be like, oh, she trusts me.
	She likes me.
	I can probably get her to do whatever I want to get her to do.
	And she'll do it.
	In that regard, you're correct.
	But I think that has more to do with that.
	I think for a younger woman, it's a lot easier to do that too.
	Do you get what I'm saying?
	Yeah, but the thing is, see, me, I'm more of a, I'm more of a, I'm not a big proponent of free will in the sense that we can do whatever we want.
	I believe our brains lead us and our behaviors follow.
	Absolutely.
	So when you like somebody, that's why I'm saying even if you were 40 and he was 42, it wouldn't matter.
	He could still literally, the same thing could happen because if you trust him and you like him and you want to please him, he could get you to do the same exact thing and you would do it just because you like him.
	He would just be taking advantage of the fact that you like him.
	Yeah.
	That's very, very, very true.
	That's why when I hear the, oh, there's a power dynamic he's trying to control.
	It's not that.
	And honestly, I don't see anything wrong.
	If you're in a relationship, even if I am older than you by 10 years, if I'm trying to show you how I want you to love me or how I think our relationship can work, I don't see the issue in that.
	The issue only comes after you realize that you did some things you didn't like and you regret doing it.
	And that could be because he did you wrong in whatever way you felt he did you wrong and you wish you hadn't.
	And it's just regret.
	It's coming from a place of regret, but in a sense of I'm with this girl.
	This girl likes me, this girl trusts me.
	I'm gonna tell her what I like about her, how I want her to do things, because I'm trying to set a foundation of how I want our relationship to work and how I want the dynamic to be.
	I don't see no issue with that and a lot of times that's the argument women make when it comes to age gap relationships, because if it ain't oh, it's icky.
	I find it really interesting.
	It always comes from a personal experience.
	It's shaped by a personal experience, not in general, not thinking beyond or outside of your personal experience, but it's because I don't like this, because this happened to me when I did it, and I think that distorts your perception of what may be actually at play, which is simply that you liked him, you trusted him and he took advantage of that to a degree.
	But we all do that in relationships, regardless of if there's an age gap or not.
	Yeah, that's true.
	You're very, very right absolutely, and it does come from my own personal experience, which is why I thought that way, why I still think that way.
	Even having this conversation, I probably still would even like, if I heard, like my sister right now was dating someone older, or whatever, I would give her that same warning, like blah blah, blah.
	Absolutely, adding this perspective to it now.
	But yeah okay, i'm gonna move it on.
	We have uh, let me do a couple shout outs here.
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	We are going to do a row session in a little bit though, so stay tuned for that, so you know what.
	Let's do this and there's more stuff on the questionnaire, but i'm kind of probably ignore the rest of it.
	So, final thing, though, would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest, starting with you?
	Go ahead bear, a man, a man bear man man man, man.
	Okay, why do you pick bear?
	And why don't you pick men?
	Because there have been some scary men out there to me.
	Why do you pick bear?
	Because you know how to scare away a bear, or at least get away from very kennels.
	Get away from bear.
	No, we're just supposed to get big and loud.
	Is that?
	That's like a rule of thumb?
	You tested that out?
	Have you tested that out?
	Or the bear, that's true, a polar bear.
	You're fucked either way.
	I think because yeah, you're fucked either way mauled.
	So you think you stand a better chance against the bear than the man?
	I think so.
	Pull up that meme, Damien.
	I want to pull up the meme with the bear and Kyle or whatever.
	So brown bear, 9 foot tall, 1,300 pounds, claws, 4 inches, bite force, 1,200.
	Kyle, 510, ew, 174 pounds, project engineer said hi to you at the gym once.
	Do you still pick the bear or still pick the bear?
	Still pick the bear?
	Depends.
	Yeah, bears are master.
	Why do you guys hate men so much?
	I don't get it.
	Why do you hate men?
	It's not that I hate men at all.
	It's not that I hate men at all.
	So you're scared, like, okay, the bear could kill me, the man could kill me, but the man could also essay me.
	Is that like the thought process?
	I mean, maybe, but I also think, like I said, it could be easier to get away from a bear than a man.
	Bears are fast.
	Could be.
	Bears are fast.
	It depends on the bear.
	What bear?
	What are you?
	They're stronger too.
	Adult bear, adult man.
	Shit.
	The bear might make it quicker.
	Actually, no, the bears just eat you.
	They don't kill you first.
	Like, you know how certain, like, big cats will kill you first.
	Bears, they'll just start eating you.
	Yeah.
	They don't care about killing you first.
	Oh, no.
	They'll just hold you down and start eating your guts.
	Eating your guts, eating yourself.
	That's why you see the bear survival victims be missing face and missing parts and stuff like that.
	Okay.
	So is part of the fear, like, okay, the guy could essay you.
	Is that part of it?
	Well, recently one of my friends was murdered by a man.
	Sorry to hear that.
	And I also personally have encountered bears and they're just sleeping, minding their business.
	Wait, was your friend unfortunately murdered by somebody that she know?
	Random person.
	Random person?
	Random act of violence?
	And found out that this person was a serial killer.
	So there were others.
	And they look unsuspecting, you know?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no.
	I think that's the scariest part is it is a lot more unsuspecting.
	A bear, you know, you know, you're probably fucked.
	Maybe not, you know, but it could be the most normal looking dude.
	I want to test this logic, though, because you said ruin your life.
	I want to test the logic, though, because you said that your friend, I'm very sorry to hear that, was murdered by a serial killer.
	Knowing that there are serial killers among us, why are you guys living in civilization?
	Like, you know, like, you should all be in the forest.
	Well, those of you who pick bear, like, you should go live in the forest.
	Like, why are you living in Los Angeles, which is like one of the largest cities in the world?
	To make the money to live in the forest.
	But you pick the bear.
	And, like, the justification for picking the bear is my friend encountered a serial murderer.
	There are serial murderers out there.
	This is just a reality of life.
	Move to the forest, man.
	You're in LA.
	There's probably, there's a couple serial killers out there right now.
	I'm trying to go to the side.
	Where you at?
	Compton?
	Where are you at?
	Santa Monica?
	Where are you at?
	K-Town.
	Koreatown?
	Okay.
	Do you live in the same area?
	There's definitely a murderer.
	There's probably a couple serial murderers in Koreatown.
	Shit, maybe you're the serial murderer.
	Who knows?
	See, look, you could be the serial murderer.
	Have you stabbed somebody before?
	No.
	To be honest.
	You've shanked somebody once.
	No.
	Okay, whatever.
	I've never even used my taser.
	Okay.
	Never had to.
	I don't know.
	The whole bear thing is kind of crazy.
	You guys aren't just, you guys aren't going to give me any pushback.
	So I don't even want to argue with you guys.
	Guys, Chivalry is dead.
	Chivalry is dead.
	It's fucked up.
	Holy shit.
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	Show a little love.
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	I'm not just, look, I'm not one of these Twitch streamers that's just got a computer and I'm playing video games and there's no, you know, there's not any production cost for them.
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	No, I do appreciate it, guys.
	You know, the show requires of like, you know, absent like a CNN, like one of these network news stations or like a legitimate Hollywood production.
	Like when it comes to like run of the mill YouTuber, streamer, like the time and money we put into the production is orders of magnitude greater than some guy who's fucking playing Fortnite or some shit.
	So, I mean, Mr. Beast is doing crazy shit, but that's another level.
	So thank you guys so much.
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	Okay.
	The bear.
	Yeah, I'm just going to, you know what?
	I kind of want to just do the early roast session.
	And then we're just going to do your notes and shit during the road.
	Fuck it.
	We're just doing the roast session.
	You know, actually, no, well, you know what?
	Here.
	We're going to start the roast session in 25 minutes.
	25 minutes.
	It'll still be early, but I want to get through a bit more notes before we jump into it.
	So let's see.
	Where do we go from here?
	I don't know.
	Okay, I know.
	I know what we're doing.
	We got Reacts.
	We got to do some Reacts.
	Let's get the tweets out of the way.
	There's like three tweets from Kaylee.
	Did I say your name right, Kaylee?
	Yes.
	Her Twitter is based, boys.
	Her Twitter is based.
	Oh, here we go.
	Read it in your voice.
	Eddie Girl's daughter encourages girls to only date men who follow Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, and the Tates on social media.
	Okay, and this is in response to... Tim Waltz's daughter.
	She was saying, Tim Waltz's daughter encourages girls not to date guys who follow Joe Rogan on social media.
	And then she goes to say, I don't know how you have the largest podcast in the world and are able to just lie and put out misinformation and straight up lies on your platform.
	That's rich coming from the Democrats.
	What's the next one?
	Oh, scroll down just a tad.
	This is like your follow-up tweet.
	Yes, so I got a lot of hate of people telling me that my father...
	Wait, we got to show the Instagram photo once more.
	Oh, geez.
	Because some people are just tuning in.
	She is the daughter of famed WWE superstar Eddie Guerrero.
	That's your dad and your mom.
	Yes.
	So, okay, just for newcomers to the stream.
	So let's bring it back to the Twitch.
	Or sorry, not the Twitter post.
	So for a bit of context on that tweet, I received like over 2,000 death threats.
	People telling you.
	2,000?
	Yeah, no way.
	No, seriously, go look at the quote tweets on not just that, but the other ones.
	People telling me to kill myself and that my dad would be so disappointing me from his grave for being a Trump supporter and also being a Latino woman.
	Wait, was your dad a Trump supporter?
	Well, my dad died young.
	Right, he passed away.
	What year did he pass away?
	He, wow, he was like 20, 2005, I think it was.
	Yeah, I was.
	Oh, okay.
	So that was before Trump.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And he was just a really, really conservative, traditional man.
	So context of this.
	I said my father was a devout Christian man who was extremely against abortion.
	He would have never sided with the left, not even for a second.
	If you think he would, it's clear you only knew him from the storyline.
	He stood against corrupt elites and would have viewed the current left as extremely blasphemous.
	My father likely would have been canceled, just as the men I named in my last post.
	He often laughed at the false news articles written about him, much like those men who are facing discrimination from the press and media.
	Although I'm not a man, I am committed to carrying on my father's legacy in a way that would make him proud.
	As a daughter who has lost her father, the only question I ask myself is: Would he be proud of the woman I have become?
	This question guides me to live in a way that would honor him and his beliefs.
	And it went viral.
	This was just like two months ago.
	It did.
	I was on InfoWars.
	Oh, they invited you on InfoWars.
	I actually filmed with Owen, but yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Sweet.
	That's super cool.
	Or like digitally.
	Yeah, like it was a call-in.
	Yeah, it was really awesome.
	I almost wonder you got so much hate because do you think it was like some of the WWE audience or no?
	I think it was probably New Age WWE audience.
	Like wrestling fans.
	Yes, New Age wrestling fans.
	Because you know what it's like.
	You guys are in your 30s.
	Growing up back in the day, it didn't matter if you listened to rock music or like the arts or were maybe even a little goth.
	It didn't mean you stood one way or another politically.
	And now it's very much like I know from even going to art school that if you're in one class of art, typically, like for instance, I was like really the only conservative girl in my art class.
	That now, if you like the arts or you like entertainment or you like anything mainstream, you're typically categorized as left.
	And I think that was a really big misconception with my following was they saw that I did art and they saw that you know I'm the daughter of a WWE guy and they automatically assumed that I would fall into a certain category and were mad when I didn't.
	But you know, that's the name of having your family be really public.
	So I think it definitely just made my skin thicker.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Is there another tweet?
	I think there's one more.
	Oh, no.
	That's a different one.
	I'm always very controversial online.
	Okay.
	This was just for fun sees.
	Men, don't let women tell you they don't need you.
	I really could have used some toxic masculinity today.
	Full screen with the video.
	Oh, you're going to play it.
	Go full screen with it.
	And just, yeah.
	Oh, mute the audio, mute the audio.
	Yeah.
	This was me attempting to put up my Christmas tree alone.
	I actually did a pretty good job in the end.
	However, I would have much rather sat on the couch and pointed and been like, to the left, please.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Oh, mute the audio.
	Just rid of that.
	I think there's a couple more reacts we have to do.
	Let's do those.
	I'm trying to.
	Oh, you know what?
	Let's do the bow video.
	Fuck it.
	That's a little more lighthearted.
	Let's do my normal bow video.
	Then we're going to do the updated bow video.
	And then we're going to do the wedding one.
	Do you know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	So, backstory.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	I took this video of her.
	This is my expectation.
	Go ahead, play it.
	Boom!
	Huge bow.
	Did you guys see the bow?
	That's what.
	Yeah, so I just got home from a long podcast day, and you know, look, I'm tired.
	And, you know, I do expect a woman to bow to me at least once a day if I see her.
	If I don't see her, obviously, I don't need the bow, but if I see her, it's once a day.
	Mandatory.
	She's got my dinner ready, which is great.
	You know, I was hungry after the show.
	And she's very, very intentive, has the crazy eyes, though.
	That's why I had a break.
	Play one more time.
	That's why I had to dump her.
	I was kind of one time.
	Wait, posit, posit?
	The fuck.
	One time I woke up and she was just standing there looking at me.
	And so I, and she also had a knife in her hand.
	So I had a dumper, but she was like, oh no, I was gonna cut you some watermelon.
	And she just came in to check on me because, anyways, um, boom, huge.
	Okay, that's good.
	That's good.
	All right.
	So going around the table, would you be willing to bow for your man?
	Yeah, I'll bow.
	Okay, let's see it right now.
	Do it.
	Do I stand up?
	Do a stand-up.
	Let's see it.
	Oh, we can't see you.
	Get into frame.
	No, no, stand up.
	Actually, you know what?
	Just I got it.
	I got it.
	Oh, I knew she was going to do that.
	Fuck.
	Okay.
	She moved the camera.
	Like we'll do the signs, you know?
	Okay.
	Going around the table, are you around to bow for your man?
	Oh, wait, me.
	Uh, no.
	Going around the table.
	Oh, yes, because it is in my culture, and I balloted whether you're a man or woman of any age just out of respect.
	Okay, next?
	I honestly would.
	Yeah, I would too.
	Definitely would.
	I'd be willing to give it a go.
	Maybe do a little.
	Yeah, I'd be willing to give it a go.
	I don't know.
	I don't see why not if he really wants me to, because I mean, he opens a door for me all the time.
	You know, he doesn't have to do that.
	Wait, so everybody's down to bow?
	I just don't know.
	I don't know.
	It's just a movement.
	I said I'd even curtsy because it's not my culture.
	That's cute.
	It's not your culture.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Yeah, I'm a ballerina.
	Cultural appropriation, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Yeah.
	You should try it, I guess.
	Would you never bow back?
	No, I wouldn't bow back.
	Oh.
	So is this like as a form of submission and respect?
	Yes.
	So why a bow?
	Why couldn't it be another action?
	Why about it?
	So, I mean, it's such a benign thing.
	It's like it's a temperature check for like it takes it takes no effort.
	It takes literally no effort.
	It's this cute, totally benign, harmless thing.
	I'm not asking myself, like, there's some people who like are into legitimate BDSM and they want to like put their legs, like, like have the girl lay on the floor and like put their legs on her back and shit.
	Like, I'm not trying to do that.
	I mean, if she wants me to, maybe we can have a conversation about it, but it's more than men for that.
	But it's so, such a small thing, and it's just literally a temperature check for, is she submissive?
	That's it.
	Now, there's other, you can all, you know, there's other things too, but like, will she do my laundry on the first date?
	On the first date.
	On the first date.
	Okay, on the first date, pushing it.
	That's no, that's crazy.
	That's valid.
	That's so valid.
	That is not valid.
	Look, I'm a nice guy.
	She just has to fold it.
	I'll put it in.
	Fold it.
	Yeah.
	On the first date, you're saying the very first law.
	You know what?
	You're right.
	I'll just, she just has to.
	Because I don't want her fucking up my laundry machine.
	So I'll put the clothes in.
	I'll do the soap.
	I'll do the detergent.
	And then I'll trans.
	No, she transfers it to the dryer, but then she has to fold it.
	Like that's.
	Is this like a first date idea for you?
	Oh my god.
	You would do this for a first date.
	I am in love with the girl if she does that.
	Do you not like doing wrong men though?
	No, I'm fine folding laundry.
	You're fine doing it.
	And sometimes, sometimes.
	Why is this so appealing?
	You know, sometimes.
	Why is it so appealing?
	Why is it so appealing?
	It's a temperature check.
	It's a temperature check.
	To see if she'd do your laundry.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Why can't you just ask?
	Why can't you just ask?
	Would you do my laundry?
	I feel like if I heard that on a first date, I'm like, hey, do you want to do my laundry for me?
	Well, yeah, but actually, but like, make it happen.
	No, hold on.
	I'll kick that back.
	It needs to be unprompted.
	She unprompted on the first date.
	She has to.
	Wait, pull up the bow video again.
	Let me tell you exactly how.
	Let me show you.
	Let me explain this to you.
	Pull it up.
	Pull it up.
	Shivery is dead.
	She has to scamper up to me.
	Watch.
	Watch this.
	Play it.
	Did you give her?
	Deposit.
	She has to scamper up like that.
	Be like, excuse me, sir, can I do your laundry?
	That's what she has to do.
	She has to scamper.
	She has to scamper with her hands here.
	And she has to be like, can I do your laundry, sir?
	I accept.
	And you know what, though?
	By the third date, I'm expecting master, okay?
	Okay?
	Get with the program, ladies.
	How about a new merch shirt that's the girls who scamper?
	I will only accept sir for the first three dates, but once we're on the third date, I need to know you're serious about me.
	Wow.
	I will only accept master.
	Wow.
	From there on out.
	You guys don't care about that stuff.
	What are you talking about?
	I'm just saying that the douche that was in my crib with her now ex offered to do his laundry, said no, I might mess up his clothes.
	And then I did her man's laundry.
	Well, look, you know, if you can't trust her with anything sensitive for the first couple weeks, you know, if you got something really important, you got to do that shit yourself, you know?
	Sometimes, you know, they struggle with the instructions.
	But you gotta give me the instructions of doing laundry.
	Yeah, you know?
	It's hard.
	It's hard.
	Women have been doing for years.
	You know what?
	In fact, I actually purchased online a rustic, wait, what's it called?
	Like art art antique?
	I purchased a rustic antique washboard and clotheslines.
	Clotheslines.
	To handle wash.
	To really see what she's about.
	To see if she can hand wash.
	Do your laundry.
	Yes.
	I make her fucking washboard my clothes like it's fucking 1800.
	You don't get a washing machine?
	Yeah.
	You don't get a washing machine.
	She doesn't get a washing machine.
	And she doesn't get vacuum either.
	She has to broom.
	She has to sweep.
	She has to sweep that shit.
	Oh my gosh.
	That's right.
	That is terrible.
	That is actually kind of false.
	Because I'm seeing what's up.
	That's how you see what's up.
	He's just, he's testing waters.
	Testing the waters.
	He's like testing to see.
	You know.
	In your experience.
	Yeah.
	Do you think that Asian women have been more submissive or with a temperature check better?
	Vietnamese women, no.
	Korean women a little bit.
	Japanese women a bit more.
	And then it's a toss-up for the other Asian countries.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I like how you get up.
	It really was like, okay, dude.
	The Vietnamese women.
	You really know your shit.
	The Vietnamese women are not.
	They're not doing that shit.
	They're like, fuck you.
	Like, what the fuck?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But I don't know where I was going with all that.
	Would you do laundry for a guy?
	Yeah, of course.
	Like, first, no, like, first date.
	Like, you guys are kicking it.
	Yeah.
	And you're at his place.
	He's like, oh, I got this laundry.
	Can you fold it for me?
	Would you do it?
	I've had friends who have asked me, like, I show up to hang out and they ask me to help them do their dishes and stuff like that.
	Yeah.
	Of course.
	Oh, yeah.
	And by health.
	Doing the dishes makes more sense to me on the first date.
	Really?
	Doing laundry?
	Like, I'm kind of like, Laundry is so intimate.
	I am.
	Like, I'm going to be washing your possibly shit-stained boxes on the first date.
	First off, all the missed.
	First off, if I even wear boxers, they're black.
	Secondly, you need to.
	That's disgusting, and you should break up with a guy if he has shit-stained boxes.
	What if he didn't know?
	He just like threw it in the bin.
	It was like, oh, geez, like it just happened.
	Definitely.
	You gotta clean better.
	No, but like, what if he like thought it was just gas?
	And doing laundry on the first date?
	I don't know.
	I feel like dirty dishes is worse than laundry.
	No, no, it isn't.
	I buy it.
	I come over to your house for a dinner date, whatever.
	Daily laundry.
	I'm naturally going to take my own dishes to the sink, take your dishes to the sink, and do them.
	Yeah, like that's a custom.
	Clean whatever was on the stove, clean the kitchen, blah, blah, blah.
	Maybe I gotta switch things up a bit.
	But laundry is like months down the line.
	No, for the week now, that's first date activity.
	I don't think so.
	I wouldn't be a first date house.
	Oh, that's true.
	Yeah, why would I?
	I wouldn't either.
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't be able to.
	If someone asked me for help, I wouldn't be able to say no more.
	You know what?
	I should actually try to do it.
	Do a social experiment.
	I'd be just like, I should just invite the entire podcast panel after my shows to do the laundry for me.
	After the show.
	All right, guys, we're going to the crib.
	After party.
	Little do you know.
	It's laundry day.
	There's no outfit.
	There's no party.
	Here's all the laundry.
	Here's the dishes.
	Vacuum.
	I thought you said there was no vacuum.
	You had to sweep.
	Yeah, I thought I had to sweep.
	No, I have one.
	But you don't get to use it.
	It's like there.
	It's there in case I need it.
	But like, you gotta, you know, whatever.
	It'd be a very interesting social experiment.
	It would.
	Okay.
	Let's do the other bow video.
	Oh, there's two.
	That would be a dope screen.
	You might have to re-refresh it.
	Oh, it's good?
	Okay, sweet.
	I think audio is good.
	Yeah.
	Play.
	Boom.
	Bow.
	There we go.
	This is taking it to another level.
	Okay.
	I'm.
	Oh.
	Hello.
	What?
	Hey.
	What the fuck?
	Princess treatment.
	Okay.
	I can get the lower the volume.
	Okay, dude.
	Chill out, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	This is kind of.
	All right, so you know, she's being, she's doing more than the bow.
	She's taking his clothes off, taking his shoes.
	What about this?
	Okay, put your shirt on, bro.
	Would you do that?
	All that shit.
	I'm assuming he really provides by what is going on.
	In that sense, absolutely.
	What else do I have to do but take care of a man like that?
	Would you guys do that?
	Yeah, if he provided in the right way, 100%.
	Like, if he's providing that way, hell yeah.
	Personal chef, personal maid.
	I'll even feed him.
	Let's do the five, the wedding one.
	Let's do the wedding one.
	All right.
	Yeah, we can play it.
	Yeah, audio.
	I'll forever.
	Louder.
	All the way.
	I'll forever submit to you.
	I'll forever submit to you, Miles.
	I'll forever respect you, Miles.
	I'll forever honor you, Miles, as the head of our home.
	And no other.
	There is no other.
	There is no one.
	No plans of hell will ever prosper in our marriage.
	And will ever hold me not to be a wife.
	That is a Proverbs 31 woman.
	I will become that woman that builds the home as I follow you, as you follow Christ.
	That is the only thing that we will do in our household.
	And I promise and I vow that in heaven, they hear.
	On earth, I declare and decree.
	I shall be a submissive wife.
	Declare and decree.
	Continue to do this work of God out forever.
	Okay, I think that's it.
	What do you guys think?
	A bit much?
	Is it extra or extra?
	Two extra?
	Extra?
	Extra.
	Oh, I thought that was super.
	Panel, go ahead.
	I thought it was super speak up.
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	It was extra.
	It came from our heart.
	I think it's rare to have a situation like that, but when there is a situation like that, it's absolutely.
	I thought that guy was gay, to be honest.
	I know.
	I thought he looks gay.
	I was getting some gay vibes from him.
	I know.
	I know.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, he looks gay.
	Word.
	Any thoughts?
	Hello?
	Yeah, I think that, especially if you got to, like, do kind of like the interior of the wedding, because he might say, oh, well, you're the girl, so however you want the day to look, you know, I think that would be like a really nice way to like pay respect to him if he like let us decorate, however, be like, here, like, let me make you feel special.
	You let me decorate, however.
	So there you go.
	By the way, guys, we're going to do the row session.
	TTS has now been changed.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	What?
	Oh, I'm speaking to the audience.
	Oh.
	All right, Row session.
	Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	Here, we're going to get that pulled.
	One sec, guys.
	Oh, final thing from the questionnaire.
	Do you guys think men are insecure if they care about the woman's body count?
	no no no no oh wow Okay.
	Well.
	I mean, generally, I'd say no, but yeah, it depends.
	I'm just like, don't be a hypocrite about it.
	If yours is super high and my super high, then like, why aren't you just super high?
	Right.
	I think that's okay.
	I think it was on this podcast, but somebody brought that up because they said, it must have been on another episode.
	Somebody said that men in our current society are not judged for their, or they are judged for their body count, whereas women really aren't anymore.
	So it's kind of, it's become reversed, you know, that whole thing.
	Some people, I don't remember, but maybe it wasn't this podcast, but it was somewhere else.
	That's what the argument was.
	Just in that, you know, men are.
	I think men still tend to care more about it.
	They care not caring about their own or seeing their own as also like an equal issue.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I think.
	Someone actually made this comparison.
	I don't know if it was you or not, but say you have a can of soda and was it you dip your finger in it and pass it to the next person and tell them to drink it.
	Are you gonna drink it?
	The whole premise of that was to prove a point about women having a higher body count versus men.
	Whereas, what did they say?
	If you touch the if you did, but I hope you get my point.
	I think something like this, so you have a glass of water, and then one person puts their finger in it.
	You might still drink it, maybe even then.
	And then, but if like 10 people put their finger in it and like stirred it around, you'd be probably a little more grossed out.
	20, 30, 40.
	Like the more people put their finger in it, the kind of grosser it gets.
	I actually believe that a man can be a hypocrite about it.
	And the reason that I believe that a man can be a hypocrite about it is because we aren't held to the same standards when it comes to our sexual behavior.
	I would expect a man, if he can, to have a higher body count than his woman because sexual opportunities don't present themselves to men as often as they do women.
	Men are not as sexually disciplined as women are.
	We are not as sexually selective as women are.
	So to think a man should show the level of discipline or sexual selectivity that women demonstrate is unrealistic because we're not women.
	We're not operating on the same hormones.
	We're not operating on the same sex drive.
	It's just, it's one of those things.
	It's just a biological reality.
	So I actually think men can be a hypocrite about it.
	Oftentimes, too, because when you look at it, the average body count for a man is very similar to a woman's, which speaks volumes to how much easier it is for a woman to get sex and refuse to have it.
	Whereas a man doesn't have a choice because he's not getting sex.
	So if he can get sex, like, let's be real, who's going to tell Chris Brown, I'm not dating you, you slept with too many women.
	Like, that would be insane.
	And when you look at guys like that who have slept around or who have high body counts, you see women filled in their comments and they're probably in their DMs.
	They don't care.
	They like, this is him.
	Like, it's an opportunity to be with him.
	They're not thinking about how many women he's been with.
	Some women even say, hell, I would let him date other women because I know it's him.
	So that is very true, too.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	That was a good point, too.
	Yeah, and I think now to go back to like the evolutionary argument, but like throughout human history, there have been polygonous men, and then there have also been monogamous men for the most part.
	It has been found, and I'd have to cite this study, but it has been found that women generally see it as a positive if a guy can attract a lot of women.
	It's like a cue to them that he's like worth mating with.
	But I think in certain environments, it's been advantageous from a purely survival-based standpoint to value men that are very polygamous.
	And let me just define polygamy.
	So that's like multiple women for one man.
	You know, some women, it's like we were talking, we mentioned pimping earlier.
	I mean, some women, it's like it's very valuable if a guy has like a lot of women around him and he's like sleeping with like different women.
	I don't think every woman values that, but I think it just, there are so many individual differences as well.
	I think overall, and again, you see this, you've seen this throughout human history, is that monogamy is valued a lot.
	So I think from both ends, it's just important that, and this is coming from somebody who doesn't consider herself purely monogamous, but I still try to respect people.
	And, you know, I think that sexual fluidity in many regards is important.
	But it's something that's important to me.
	So it doesn't, that's just that doesn't just apply to sexual orientation.
	It's also just like how many partners you have and everything.
	But at the same time, I think that it is important to like just respect people's boundaries.
	You know, they don't want to hear that you're sleeping with like a ton of different people, regardless if you're male or female.
	Because that's just like a lot of fluid exchange.
	It's just like a distrust type of thing.
	You know, if you've gone through, if you've ran through this many people, male or female, then you know, who's to say that I'm just like another notch on your belt, so to speak.
	I'm glad you said that.
	Yeah, I'm glad you said that because I think that's what women think about when they think about a man having a higher body count, which is understandable, but I mean, I don't know.
	I don't think that's a more number.
	Yeah, it's like, do I mean something to you, or am I just going to be another woman that you just want to pump and dump?
	Because I do understand, like, I can understand it from the female perspective.
	You want to know if this man is going to be monogamous if he can commit to you.
	So if his history shows that he just likes to run through women, then of course you're going to be skeptical and believe that he, you know, his chances of keeping you around are going to be slim.
	But I think on the flip side, if a guy does want something long-term and he's ready to settle down and he chooses to do that, then his body count becomes more relevant to the woman because her main concern was, are you going to stick with me?
	And if fidelity is going to be a factor, and if he and if he knows, like, yeah, I'm going to stick with you, I'm going to be loyal, etc., then I don't think most women would have an issue with it beyond, you know, that concern.
	Does body count matter?
	We just, we just had that conversation about it, actually.
	You mentioned that.
	Show of hands?
	I guess you guys.
	Okay.
	Okay, fine.
	We'll do this then.
	We'll do this.
	I'm going to let the chats come in in just a sec, guys.
	I just want to get through one or two more things.
	What is everybody's body count?
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	I don't want to disclose that.
	Do you want to do it?
	No.
	Give us a range.
	Give us a range.
	All of my toes.
	All of your toes?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Toe counting.
	So it's over 10.
	Yeah.
	Do you have like a mutation where you have like maybe 20 toes?
	Like, I'm just curious.
	Just 10.
	Just 10.
	I'll leave that.
	There's probably mutations.
	Mutations.
	How about this?
	How many women have you slept with?
	Hmm.
	I think about the same as men.
	Which is.
	Which is.
	How many women have you slept with?
	Also around the same.
	What about you?
	Any chance?
	Could me and her say it at the same time?
	We're the same number.
	We have the same number.
	Sure.
	18.
	Stop the cap.
	18.
	Okay.
	18 new buttons.
	Can I put a range or give us the number?
	19.
	19?
	Okay.
	Four.
	Four.
	Okay.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	It's like 20.
	Like 20.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's like 9.
	7.
	That's bad.
	You said, wait, 18?
	19.
	19, 18, 18, 4, 0, 20, 7.
	You said 7.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.
	Who's the idea?
	100.
	All right.
	Cool.
	So, what do you think about that?
	I mean, I don't know.
	Hey, every other girl.
	Hey, come on.
	They all answered.
	Do you want to answer?
	I actually just don't know for sure.
	Oh, that's a good question.
	Yeah, you forgot.
	I actually just don't know.
	You forgot.
	I would have to sit here and count it.
	Is it over 50?
	No, no.
	Is it over 100?
	Around like 10,000.
	10 to 20 in that range.
	Is it over 5,000?
	No, in between 10 to 20, is it over 10,000?
	Oh, my God.
	10 to 20.
	Okay, got it.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	What's your body count?
	I'm a virgin.
	With someone who bows back to you?
	Are you born again?
	I'm a virgin.
	Yeah, born again virgin.
	It resets every Sunday.
	Every Sunday.
	Every Sunday.
	Resets.
	Resets.
	Yeah.
	At that point, I'm a virgin, too.
	I believe that.
	At least by my definition, right?
	Okay.
	Wait, where are we?
	Okay, let me let some of the chats come through.
	We'll have another break here in a bit.
	Khmer 594 donated $20.
	So that's why you left your ex chair two.
	Because Kermit wanted to fool around with Gonzo in chair four.
	Brian only watched because you haven't seen no man in chair seven.
	What is Encino Man?
	You haven't seen that movie?
	You're chair seven.
	What is that?
	It's like a movie about it takes place in Encino.
	It's an old movie.
	It's about these two.
	No, it's about these two, like, just dumb friends in high school.
	Yeah.
	And they find a caveman frozen in terrible.
	They saw him, and that's it.
	Is it a comedy?
	Yeah, it's like a 1970s comedy.
	Oh, 1970s.
	Yeah, it's like old.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Quite a reference.
	Let's see here.
	We'll play this.
	Thank you, Toast.
	Toast donated $20.
	CHR1 doesn't know facts.
	Most women didn't want the right to vote because they didn't want to be drafted or become pawns or do jury duty.
	They really didn't fight that hard.
	They fought against it.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Chair 1 is the worst Jack Sparrow impersonator I've ever seen.
	Guest 6, you look like the Russian from Dodgeball.
	Yikes?
	Who's six?
	You're the Russian from Dodgeball?
	Huh?
	Chair six is the Russian from?
	That's your chair six.
	I've never seen the Russian.
	I don't know what that means.
	I don't know either.
	Is that a good thing?
	Wait, so you have to do.
	Do you know, have you seen Pirates of the Caribbean?
	You have to be Jack Sparrow.
	And just go like, now I'm so curious.
	That's terrible.
	See?
	They're right.
	George?
	You're right.
	Color contacts, by the way, or those are natural.
	I bleached my eyes.
	Wait, you what?
	You bleach your eyes?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You got the tattoo, you mean?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I don't think you can.
	Oh, color contact.
	That's crazy.
	I was like, I'm going to make you a deal.
	You either have to do Jack Sparrow impersonation the rest of the show, or you can reveal your body count, or you have to eat a banana for refusing, on stream, for refusing the body count.
	Well, I said the body count.
	Like, it's because women, I don't know how to count that.
	Like, I don't know if it's like penetration.
	How about just the guy?
	Give us the guy number then.
	Like seven.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Anybody still want a I want a banana though.
	I'll eat that.
	Make it eight.
	Do you want to catch it?
	Like, do you want to catch it?
	Or should I throw it like a boomerang?
	Here, let's just pass it down.
	I'm ready.
	I'm scared.
	Poke out her eye, then she'll really be a pirate.
	Pass down.
	Thank you.
	Welcome.
	See, now that we all touched Women on mass have been brainwashed and propagandized by liberalism.
	They say the same exact thing, show after show, week after week.
	Intersectionality, structural racism, inequality, like a cult.
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	Thank you, Coastal.
	Chair 2.
	Does Kermit know where you are right now?
	I think he's getting worried.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	That's for you.
	I have never seen that.
	Damn, Johnny, it looks like you rolled around in Amber Hertz Pooh and decided to show up in chair one on whatever.
	Stop being such a dirty hippie.
	Oh, wow.
	Wait, dirty hippies.
	Can you take this off?
	The bandana?
	And into my hair.
	Let's see it.
	Oh, man.
	We should have had you.
	I totally didn't even think about that.
	Just show us.
	It's the end of the stream.
	Nobody's watching.
	I mean, you didn't say your body count.
	Rip that off.
	You didn't say your body count?
	What if I'm not?
	I'm a virgin.
	I told you I'm a virgin.
	What if you're bald?
	Some guys are into that.
	It's all good.
	No, no.
	All right.
	That's a crazy ask.
	I would date a girl if she, you know, had what's that profile?
	Hello, PowerPoint.
	I would still, I would stick with my girl.
	I would buzz her hair off.
	I'd be like, fuck this shit.
	Let's buzz it together.
	I'll buzz mine.
	You buzz yours.
	We're going through this together.
	Yeah.
	You just grab the skin on her head.
	That's real dedication.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Lulu.
	Lulu donated $20.
	Oh, man.
	That's great.
	Brian, would you rather get a lap dance from chair seven or make out with chair one?
	You have to pick one.
	Come on.
	I have to pick one.
	Okay.
	lap dance or make out with chair one uh that's hard You know, that's I. Because like a kiss, that's, you know, exchange of, you know, there's.
	Is it a pec?
	No, it says make out.
	It's a make out.
	It's a make-out.
	Damn, bro.
	What the f?
	Okay, I'll make out with chair one.
	Oh, my God.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	594 donated.
	Serious question, chair eight.
	Did you get approval to appear on this podcast?
	Did you interact with your PR officer?
	PR?
	Oh, like for the military.
	I don't need permission to be on a podcast.
	She doesn't need permission, apparently.
	Thank you, Seymour, for the message.
	Sons of Liberty donated $19.99.
	I'm a man and I have refused sex numerous times.
	Not all of us are degenerates.
	A high body count for a woman is disgusting, and I definitely would not dip my finger in the cup.
	Degenerate men will tell.
	Have you turned down sex?
	Yeah.
	But like in the moment, like it's not just some girl comes up to you at the club, it's like you're in the bedroom.
	Yeah.
	And some shit.
	You know what I mean?
	Me too.
	What do you consider a high body count for?
	What do you consider a high body count for a woman?
	Like, what's considered disgusting?
	What's considered disgusting?
	Yeah, well, what do you find?
	Does she have a large labia?
	I give women.
	If a woman has a large labia, I give them a bit.
	I'll give them a couple more bodies, like a bit more leeway.
	If you want, I mean, I'm just.
	She's like submissive.
	She gets huh?
	Just like, what do you think men think?
	Is it disgustingly high numbered?
	Honestly, for most men, they're going to say double-digit.
	I think most men will say anything over double-digit is high.
	But, I mean, like, the thing is, though, is I went to college and I saw what went down.
	Some of these girls, like all y'all, maybe, I don't know if you're telling the truth.
	Sometimes women live out their body count, whatever, if we just take it at face value.
	A lot of girls, at least where I went to college, did y'all's body count their first freshman quarter or semester.
	Yeah.
	They'll put up 20 bodies before winter break.
	So it's like, in my mind, like it's still high, but I compare it to my college experience where I'm like, these girls are going out Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
	They're taking home a new guy every single weekend.
	A lot of these college girls, it depends which school they go to.
	Some schools are more party schools than others.
	Arizona State, UCSB.
	A lot of them, like 20, 30, 40, 50 bodies by the time they graduate.
	So, I mean, you know what I mean?
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know, whatever.
	Whatever.
	Yeah, I mean, I'd like to see the average body count of a female who went to school here because it's a huge party school.
	UCSB.
	Yeah.
	Well, you got those studious types, you know, that are.
	They get down too, though.
	It's more low-key.
	All right.
	Oh, my God.
	Chair 7.
	You are.
	What the fuck?
	You're built like a second dictators that were left in the sun for too long.
	How dare you?
	Wow.
	That is so rude, Coastal.
	Lulu.
	Chair 7 is homeless and retarded.
	Would you consider her to just sit there like Black Labia?
	Lulu.
	Roasted.
	Just sit there like Black Labia.
	Oh, wait, wait, it's Dark Labia.
	Darkabia, but Dark Labia.
	Are you homeless?
	No.
	Oh.
	So it's just the other part of that.
	I have been in the past, actually.
	Retarded?
	No.
	Oh, sorry.
	I'm just kidding.
	By the way, I hope there's no hard feelings.
	I was a little abrasive towards you earlier, perhaps multiple times throughout the stream.
	But no, there's a period at the end of that sentence.
	I don't know why I put it.
	Okay.
	No, I think you're great.
	I mean, I should have been more conscientious.
	Well, I think the thing that frustrated me in that moment in the most is I think I asked you a question, and then it was about like prior to me too, are you saying that these crimes were never prosecuted?
	And you said yes.
	And then you said no.
	So it's just frustrating kind of when you're talking to somebody and it's just yeah, I needed my energy shot.
	Yeah, it's all good.
	It's all good.
	It worked.
	All good.
	Oh boy.
	Coastal operator denoted 99 cents.
	Care two and four.
	How did you both manage to find 18 blind dudes?
	You trolling for Dong at the local optometrist office?
	Wow, that's wild.
	Wow.
	Sorry, multiple people have higher numbers.
	Like who?
	Yeah, like who has higher numbers?
	The person that's on my crib, their body count's 100.
	Oh, who's at your crib?
	Yeah.
	Who's she?
	Who's they?
	I ain't speaking on it.
	It's like that.
	Oh, go on.
	And I just found us out today.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	You want to call somebody out?
	I'm not on.
	You want to call your girl out?
	I'm not trying to call it.
	Are you calling Allura out?
	No.
	You want to say something about Allura?
	No.
	What you got to say about Laura?
	I feel like you guys got a little tension.
	You guys got a little tension going on.
	Really?
	Oh, no, that passed.
	That was two weeks ago.
	You guys got some beef?
	Oh, it was stupid.
	Yeah.
	It's okay.
	Problem's done now.
	Was it about a dude?
	That's yes.
	Yo, you guys both.
	Wait, did you guys both fuck the same dude?
	No, no.
	Okay.
	We are not chasing her.
	You guys got beef?
	What's up?
	Oh, no, we're good.
	Air that shit out.
	This is a safe space.
	Kind of.
	I don't know.
	Shells are outside.
	So what's that?
	She felt like I didn't have her back with something.
	And I verbally did, but I still hung around people that she.
	Oh, no, I just found her, her boyfriend, and then I got screwed over.
	And then.
	Wait, you're in a tough.
	Wait.
	Oh, no, you broke up with a guy.
	Yeah, I'm live.
	But I hooked her up with, and then the dude screwed me over, and she was okay hanging out with the dude that she found out screwed me over, like hanging out with him and her boyfriend, like all the time.
	And I was like, left out.
	Are you still eating the banana?
	Are you still working?
	Yeah.
	Maybe once you're done, just like, maybe just pass it to Damien so we just don't have the banana on the table.
	All right.
	So there's no beef.
	You guys are chilling.
	We're chilling.
	You're chilling.
	Chilling.
	Like villains.
	Like villains.
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Meant Jess is the Russian from Dodge Ball.
	Listening to her made me curious how 9mm would taste.
	Tell us to break.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Okay, thank you, Coastal.
	Appreciate it.
	We do a segment called Removing Your Makeup.
	That's what it's called.
	Who's down to remove their makeup?
	Are you down?
	Well, yeah, I gotta take off my makeup anyway.
	That's the honest wipes.
	Honesty is the best policy.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Kinda hard to get a good discussion when every panelist is stonewalled Jacqueline.
	Check six, keep it up.
	Shares one through five, seven, and eight, change.
	Brian, cut down on the burritos, brother.
	I had a burrito today.
	Yes, I need a getting boys.
	It's gonna happen this year, 2025.
	I got it.
	Actually, I'm removing some of my makeup.
	LWO Bearing was donated $20.
	Viva La Raza.
	Question for Kaylee.
	Are you dating a wrestler?
	No.
	I'm not dating anyone.
	I thought you were talking to somebody.
	I'm talking, but I'm not dating.
	So the question isn't valid.
	Chore XD donated $20.
	I might be getting nicer over time, or maybe my expectation based on past panels have gone down.
	But I thought you ladies did all right.
	For the good of the nation, tell your female peers to be better.
	Oh, wow.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	Gler $594 donated $20.
	I know you're 23, and me would tell you that you are majority Neanderthal.
	Chair five?
	Chair five.
	I've always wanted to meet the elephant man.
	Wait.
	Wait, what?
	What do you mean there meet five?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	What does that mean?
	This is so nice.
	You got the nice ones.
	People complain about those.
	Oh, well, then maybe I'm just abrasive and difficult.
	Who wants to?
	Will you take your makeup off?
	Am I makeup?
	Makeup?
	You're gonna take your makeup off?
	Take your makeup off.
	Take it off, guys.
	Take it off.
	Are you catfish?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Am I catfish?
	No, I really don't put face makeup on.
	It's just my eyes.
	I have lashes on that I don't have.
	I have some highlighters.
	Oh.
	Wait, what is the elephant man?
	The elephant man.
	Well, that's a movie.
	Oh, yeah.
	But I don't really know what they were trying to say.
	They were trying to insult me, but I don't care about what Merv 594 donated $20.
	Damn.
	I didn't know that Kermit was such a stud.
	Chair 2.
	Of course he has gained.
	I have done.
	Let's get some Sesame Street references while we're at it, okay?
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Captain Sparrow, what kind of ship do you sail?
	Is it a Subaru by chance?
	Did you drive a Subaru?
	I drove a Prius.
	Oh, Subaru Forrester.
	All right, that's 37 miles per gallon.
	Console kicker donated $20.
	Chair 4, women have legal rights to refuse men to sign birth certificate.need to submit that form to have optified for kid.Chair 6.
	She jeta night RIP dad.he would be proud.
	Except maybe the Spurt stuff lol.
	Those of you who are working on their makeup, hold up the wipe.
	Hold it up.
	Spread.
	Spread them.
	Yes.
	Oh, wow.
	The damage.
	Okay, there you go.
	She's...
	Oh.
	It's mostly lipstick and highlighters.
	You gotta do your eyes too, though.
	I know, I guess.
	The eyeliner is just not gonna come off.
	Waterproof on my eyes.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	No, no.
	I'm just rubbing my eye.
	I have a bruise.
	It's from work.
	I didn't wear any makeup.
	From work?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	Well, I work with behavioral students.
	So I got head-butted.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my God.
	Wait, yeah.
	Wait a minute.
	Do you do ABA?
	It's not ABA.
	So I have worked in ABA facilities.
	I don't really think ABA is the most effective method of treating students.
	And specifically, the student that I work with is traumatized.
	It's not.
	Oh.
	Murv 594 donated $20.
	Q, can we hear you be honest?
	Give them a roast.
	I know you can.
	Q?
	Roast the panel?
	Always?
	If you want.
	I am trained in ABA, though.
	No, I ain't got nothing bad to say.
	I'm just gonna do that.
	Um, I...
	Come here.
	I look so baby face.
	I feel like a baby.
	Wait, Emma.
	If you were dating a guy and he was like, hey, look, I want you to.
	I don't know if you have a passion for what you're doing, but he was a provider type and he was like, hey, I want you to just stop working.
	I don't like you doing that job.
	Would you do it?
	Would you stop?
	Yeah.
	Okay, cool.
	Well, it would like, I would want to hear why.
	I don't think it should ever be just like, this is what's happening.
	I would like to know why.
	Oh.
	But I can definitely see why it would put someone I'm dating in an uncomfortable position to be coming home.
	Move back.
	I definitely wouldn't want to put someone I was dating into an uncomfortable position as to where they see me coming home with like bruises on my nose or on my eye or like anything or like just big bruises on my arm from like biting attempts.
	Like I can definitely understand that, but I mean when I get married, I don't want to be working, so it's not like this isn't what I want to do forever.
	I have a passion for it.
	Okay.
	Vex donated $20.
	Oh, yeah.
	Bricks and you abandoned us.
	At least you told us prior to ever starting that you would create and do just that.
	It was fun while it lasted.
	You still an absolute legend.
	Keep up the good work.
	Yo, Vexlayer.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	I recognize your name.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Wait, are you the druid?
	I forgot.
	Oh, for like three weeks, I was playing World of Warcraft.
	And then I was like, I just don't have time to play this game.
	So I quit after like three weeks of playing.
	But thank you, man.
	Do appreciate the message.
	All right, guys.
	We're going to let a few more come through.
	We're going to get through some of the notes here because we haven't done all the notes.
	And then hopefully we'll have an earlier wrap-up here.
	So why don't we do Allura?
	It's time for you to take your fake lashes off.
	I did.
	Oh, you did?
	Oh, wow.
	Nice.
	I did.
	Congrats.
	Thank you.
	Congrats.
	Oh, I don't care, really.
	Alora, you said your recent ex is a crazy pathological liar you've ever met.
	He's very emotional.
	Used to jump out the car while you're driving, broke your windshield and other things in the car, spit on you, told you you were getting deported.
	Yeah, he did.
	Are you like Mexican?
	I'm from New York.
	And he told me he was going to deport me back to New York.
	Oh.
	Mind you, he's from Russia.
	So literally, that can't happen.
	He was just carrying drugs.
	You're deported back to another state.
	What?
	Any illegals on the panel?
	Any illegal aliens?
	Kaylee?
	I'm just laughing because people make a lot of hate comments to me and they're like, yo, we're going to get you deported.
	I'm like, dude, my dad was an American citizen.
	Calm down.
	Chill on.
	Sit down.
	So are you of Mexican descent?
	Yeah, my dad's family comes.
	I mean, I just was asking.
	So, anyways, you have the receipts about the deportation comments.
	I feel like that's a while ago.
	That's kind of funny, though.
	That's funny.
	Like the first time.
	Like, if you were Mexican or something.
	Yeah, no, it wasn't.
	That might be a fancy game.
	It was hilarious.
	He was trying to deport you to New York.
	Yep.
	I'd laugh.
	You should have tried to deport him back.
	You're the Russian.
	You said narcissistic mama's boys and why they need to be bopped.
	What does that mean?
	Like, punched?
	Are you violent?
	No.
	Have you ever punched a guy?
	No.
	Have you ever slashed a Desire?
	No.
	Have you ever gotten revenge on somebody?
	No.
	Be honest.
	You've definitely revenged.
	Come on, you've broken somebody.
	You broke up with someone on the line.
	Yeah, if that comes out.
	Yeah, a little bit of a statement, but I've never gone out of my way to get revenge maliciously on somebody.
	Modern dating has gone weird and dangerous.
	It's a big joke out there waiting to be laughed at.
	LMAO.
	My ex-most, you said your ex-most recent relationship, men really got disgusting over COVID.
	For real, for real.
	Oh, these might be your old notes.
	I was going to say, those are my old ones because we talked about that last time on the show.
	For real, for real.
	So let's see.
	Other notes we have.
	I know I talked about, I had texted this time about how many guys I've seen really leeching off of women who are making money.
	And that's not the only situation I have heard of or seen in LA.
	And that's why I said it's becoming such like a bigger problem in that sense of men are really happy to just sit and let the women do everything.
	And that's how the roles are reversing.
	And you're seeing it more and more.
	Okay.
	It's kind of scary.
	Kitty, going to your notes, you said the dude that just played me that I was seeing is a fan of my F buddy when bro thought he was playing me for a new bitch.
	I smashed the artist's art.
	I smashed the artist.
	He's a fan of the night I hit him up.
	I low-key miss you before I smashed.
	Yep.
	So wait.
	Not getting into it, but exactly what you just said.
	He's a fan of.
	All I'm going to say is one time I had someone playing that I've been good friends with for like three and a half years on my Alexa and bro asked who it was.
	Or he's no, he was like, oh, this is so-and-so.
	I met him.
	Who is it?
	I'm not saying who.
	But okay.
	So yeah, what's the story, I guess?
	Wait, what?
	What's the story?
	What's the rest?
	Oh, all I'm going to say is when she revealed the truth, but actually, no, that happened before it happened.
	Can you read this in your own words?
	Because I'm too articulate in white to like say that.
	Like sick.
	Wait, here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to copy and paste this.
	No, you're making fun of my dyslexia.
	I'm going to copy and paste this.
	No, it's not dyslexia.
	It's just, and I'm going to have to have you read it.
	I was also driving it in the car.
	The dude that just played me, I was seeing, is a fan of my fuckbuddy.
	And bro thought he was playing me for a new bitch.
	I smashed the artist.
	He's a fan of the night I hit him up.
	I low-key.
	Oh, wait, did I not write the whole thing?
	No.
	It only shows some of it.
	I texted him.
	I low-key miss him and then smashed my fuckbuddy that he's a fan of.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Thank you, man.
	Brian, give us a psychic reading since you are one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I got you.
	Mike Jones.
	I got you.
	Mike Jones.
	Yeah.
	Who Mike Jones?
	Back then, 340.
	Jose didn't want me.
	Now I'm hot.
	300.
	All on me.
	All on me.
	Thank you, Michael.
	Psychic.
	I'll do one psychic reading.
	Who wants a psychic reading?
	I'm a psychic.
	Shit, this is hard.
	Who I vote for.
	I can pour.
	No, Mike, I'll pour.
	She can't do.
	Okay, I'm going to do you.
	I'll do you a psychic reading, not like a nevermind.
	What?
	What do you get your mind out of the gutter?
	I don't know how.
	Get your mind out of the gutter, Emma.
	Ridiculous.
	You implied it.
	You implied it with your brain.
	You definitely implied that shit.
	Anyways, so, okay.
	You are currently dating a dude, but it's only been a month.
	Yeah.
	I have this intuition about him.
	He's secretly gay.
	So, you know, and, you know, we talked before the show and you said that he liked to do butt stuff.
	So, just kidding.
	She didn't say that.
	Oh, yeah, I don't remember that.
	I'm kidding.
	Just jokes.
	But you, this is going to present a conflict in your relationship, his homosexuality.
	And so, not because you have anything against gays, but you don't really want to peg him.
	So, you're just going to break up with him and then you're going to date a cardiologist.
	And you guys are going to live happily ever after, and it's going to be great.
	Cardiologist?
	Is that like, is that your kind of like what you're getting of my relationship?
	Or like, kind of like my future?
	I was getting more about the cardiologist.
	So, I don't like dating my coworkers.
	I would never date a doctor or resident.
	I've never done that before.
	Ex-cardiologist is what I was going to say.
	Oh.
	Oh, he used to be one of those.
	He's retired.
	He now does.
	He paints.
	He does painting of dogs.
	Painting of dogs.
	He paints dogs.
	He does portraits.
	And he's doing very well for himself.
	He has an Etsy store.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	And yeah.
	But then he's going to die, and then you're going to move back to Cambodia.
	Oh, oh, I want to visit Cambodia with my family, but you're going to move back to Cambodia and become a nun.
	Oh, wow.
	Cambodia.
	In Cambodia.
	Okay, I don't know.
	There you go.
	All right, Mike Jones.
	Let me let the rest come through.
	Ridiculous.
	That's so ridiculous.
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Chair one, Pirate.
	Roasted.
	Boom.
	Chair two, Miss Piggy.
	Oh, wow.
	Roasted.
	Boom.
	Chair five, Adderall Levine.
	Roasted.
	Avro.
	Adderall Levine.
	Did you take Adderall?
	GG.
	Chair Seven.
	I love your work in the Geico commercials.
	You were in the Geico commercials.
	That's dope.
	All right.
	Gecko.
	Thank you, Coastal.
	Commerf 594 donated $20.
	Nothing personal, ladies.
	It was a roast session.
	I definitely disagree with many of your choices, but you came on this show and I'm entertained.
	So, props to you.
	And no chat.
	This isn't simping.
	Thank you, Murph.
	Appreciate it.
	IT underscore virgin donated $20.
	Chair 6 is worth waiting for.
	Aw.
	Sweets.
	Okay.
	Knight.
	Thank you, I.T. Virgin.
	I think that's his name.
	Oh, the Knight.
	Oh, that's below the threshold.
	Thank you, Knight.
	Aaron Chambers says, shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
	The biggest problem with modern women is perhaps the modern man that accepts degeneracy because they are degenerate themselves.
	Without a compass outside secular humanism, we are left to our own devices inevitably.
	Hashtag world tide.
	Aaron Chambers, shout out to you in Alabama.
	I was researching Alabama recently.
	I don't know why.
	But thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Going back to you, Kitty, your notes.
	You said also you come from a family of strippers.
	Your dad, your dad, grandma, and mom.
	Wait, your dad was a stripper.
	Yep.
	What?
	Wow.
	I actually have, I actually have an altar.
	An altar?
	Yeah, it's actually on my story of my Instagram.
	And I show the altar, and everyone always sees my dad.
	They're like, is that a naked man?
	But on my altar, I have a photo of my dad with a little thong behind the pole.
	Damn.
	And my grandmother used to own a strip club.
	And my grandmother forced my mom.
	This is the answer.
	This is even though I'm retired and you know I'm doing well and I work with children and everything else.
	No one could ever say your parents must be proud because that's all I have to say.
	Sweets.
	Strippers.
	That's dope.
	That's cool.
	Is your dad?
	Is he still with us?
	No, he died when I was 16.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Yeah.
	But just to be clear, the photo you do have of him is in a thong?
	My mom gave it to me when I moved to Austin, Texas, because my mom thought it would be funny and a good memory of my dad.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Update on your crazy ex who bashed your windows out.
	You ended up back to seeing each other again for three weeks and then he screwed you over for an escort and trying to tell you that is old notes.
	He is not valid.
	He is done.
	He is no more.
	Done.
	You said body count.
	We already talked about this pretty much.
	Body count shouldn't matter.
	The only thing that matters is like an HIV STD test.
	That's what should really matter.
	And the new younger generation have higher body count than the older generations.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You had a strictly platonic relationship where this guy was your slave.
	That's old.
	He liked to be kicked in the groin.
	He was your dog.
	And you'd walk him like a leash.
	He had a dog collar that stayed property of kitty if lost return.
	Yes, that was my old slave.
	And if I knew these old notes would have repeated, he actually wrote on a piece of paper something to the whatever podcast about me kicking him.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, my old slave, he...
	What did he write?
	He wrote on a piece of paper.
	Remember, if I knew you were going to pull out the old notes, I would have literally sent you the thing.
	And he actually wrote and I think tagged you guys about what I used to do to him.
	Those are old from like two episodes ago on here.
	Okay.
	Those notes.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I was just there.
	PDF Sam.
	Oh, we have Toria here.
	Toria, she's never been on an actual date.
	Scoot into the table just.
	Yeah.
	Well, I've never been on a planned date.
	Like, I just meet people.
	Weren't you in a three-year relationship?
	Yeah.
	Now, when you say been on an act, do you mean like a first?
	Like, okay, let's meet.
	We're here.
	I've never done a dating app.
	But what about like the three-year relationship?
	Would you go out to like dinner?
	Yeah, but I wouldn't consider that like an official date.
	An official date.
	Like, I've never been like, okay, let's meet up for the first time.
	Get yourself a chance.
	Here, this restaurant.
	You just go over to their house and just scissor or what do you do?
	Oh, I mean, that's not off the table.
	You just, you just said, oh, you don't.
	Okay, you're more.
	I just meet people organically, I guess, and then we like hang out.
	It's not like a definitive date.
	Do you go for walks or you go to the theater?
	Yeah, that's happened.
	That's happened.
	Okay, that's cool.
	You've never used dating apps, though.
	No.
	So you meet these people organically.
	Yeah.
	I see.
	Just like that.
	That's dope.
	You've been on weird dates with friends, though, but you've never been on it.
	Yeah, like I've been on dates with my friends and their sugar daddies.
	And then they'll like pay for everything.
	Went to this really cool Brazilian barbecue spot somewhere in LA.
	And then I was like, how much do I Venmo?
	And then she was like, oh, that's really good.
	20 Australian dogs.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
	You look better without makeup.
	Care too much better.
	Ah, there you go.
	Thank you, but I filmed.
	Oh, wait, was that me?
	I'm like, I think it's me.
	You're beautiful.
	Thank you.
	You mentioned love at first sight.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by that?
	Have you been in love at first sight?
	Yeah, I asked that because I had this experience when I went to Flogna and Kim Vlogged.
	Who the fuck is that guy?
	The music festival.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Tyler the Creator.
	Yep.
	Runs this.
	Yeah.
	You fell in love with who?
	So I just met this person.
	I was like, oh, I like your fit.
	And then we said, I love you within the first 36 hours.
	Fully meant it.
	Like, this was my twin.
	Like, and then I found out that he had a tattoo of my Chinese name on his chest.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	This is crazy.
	And we all, we've, like, done the same shit.
	We look like we were matching.
	It was weird.
	But then it just ended.
	It just ended.
	Wait, what do you mean it just ended?
	On Valentine's Day.
	It just ended up recently.
	Recently.
	Yeah.
	How long were you used to dating?
	That was in November, like mid-November, but he also lives in DC.
	I see.
	Okay.
	You can pull that up, Damien.
	Yo, Christopher, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Guys, W's in the chat.
	Oh, wait, I have to trigger it.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if I can trigger it.
	Yo, Christopher, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, he had your tattoo, Chinese name.
	Okay.
	And right after Love at First Sight, very romantic of you, you write shit eater.
	Yes.
	Same guy.
	Different guy.
	Same guy.
	Different guy.
	What's the story?
	So I was in Berlin this summer.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	And I went to this club.
	I fully did not know this was a sex club.
	Yikes.
	I walk in by myself because my friend got COVID.
	And I'm like, I'm terrified in this club.
	They like separate me from this line and they make me go on my own line.
	They're like, okay, do you know what you're here for?
	I was like, this is a club?
	No.
	And they're like, but what are you doing here?
	I was like, I don't know, like dancing.
	And they're like, do you know what happens here?
	Like, talk to the bartenders if you're uncomfortable.
	And I met this German man and we were talking for like a few hours.
	And he asked me to eat my shit for money.
	How much?
	Like, how many Reichsmarks did he offer?
	200.
	Gross.
	Damn.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	It was crazy.
	And then I was just like on the plane back thinking about it like, damn.
	Wow.
	And then I talked to him for like seven more hours after that trying to understand this like psychology behind that.
	And it was deep.
	It's like, wow.
	Yo.
	It's an intense thing.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Yeah.
	Did you do it?
	No, I tried.
	I tried, but I was like, what do you mean you tried?
	I was like, as much as I would defile you for money, I respect you too much.
	Even if you want it.
	I can't do it, I can't do it.
	A non-donated $20.
	How the hell is seat 2 a stripper?
	Who the hell would pay to see that?
	I couldn't get paid to get a lap dance from her.
	Seat 6 full pick me girl.
	Uh oh, pick me.
	Seat seven is insane, but at least honest.
	C five VIP.
	C5 VI VIP.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	Chair one looks like the bully in every straight to DVD.
	That's so true.
	That's accomplished.
	She should be covering the bad older sister in the same movies.
	Is that a rose?
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Chair 1.
	The chat requests an argmatis.
	You're never going to find Thar Dabloons while making a hook with your hand and closing one.
	You have to do it.
	Okay, okay.
	Send another $20, okay?
	No, you got to do it for this one here.
	I'm pulling it back up.
	Coastal operator donated $19 and Armatees.
	Okay.
	Argmatees, you're never going to find that doubloons.
	That was beautiful.
	Clip it and ship it, boys.
	You can unmute.
	Father off two girls donated $20.
	Not a roast, but chair six.
	As a married 30-year-old guy with two little girls, want you to know you should be proud of yourself and wait for the right guy.
	Your dad would be slash is very proud of you.
	There you go.
	Don't make me cry, but thank you.
	There you go.
	Thank you, father of two girls.
	That was nice.
	Very sweet.
	Very sweet.
	Okay.
	Finishing up, Toria's notes here.
	You said you wanted to speak about polyamory, so you're polyamorous.
	If I recall, we kind of talked about that in the beginning.
	Dating all genders, okay.
	Kind of talked about that long distance.
	Okay, compatibility, love languages, emotionally unavailable people.
	Kind of covered most of it.
	Yeah, I think we did.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I agree.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	We have M. Going back to you, Emma.
	You said you're so single by choice.
	I am.
	So single.
	What does that mean?
	So single?
	It means that I'm extremely single and I'm not the happiest about it.
	It means that I'm super single and I'm not the happiest about it.
	Yeah.
	Do you scare off men?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Or you just don't like the dude?
	Like, what are you saying?
	I wouldn't say I scare off men.
	I think I probably intimidate men a little bit once I. When we shook hands, your grip was strong.
	I've been told that my whole life.
	That I have a great handhold.
	Solid handshake.
	It was a good handshake.
	Thank you.
	You asserted your dominance.
	And then, actually, guys, she went into one of the corners and started urinating.
	To assert the dying.
	Isn't that what dogs do?
	That's more territory.
	It's my territory.
	She just popped a squat and looked me in the eyes, like dead in the eyes.
	She looked me in the eyes.
	You know, like how dogs take like how when dogs poop?
	You know when dogs poop and they look at you.
	I know.
	It means you feel protected.
	Blasphemy.
	No, she just, and she kind of urinated on the carpet too, so we had to clean it before the show.
	It was disturbing.
	Anyways.
	That's crazy, crazy, crazy.
	Just kidding.
	That did not happen.
	Obviously.
	It was, yeah.
	Good talk.
	You said you grew up pretty conservative.
	Your views are more right-leaning, but you're not sure you'd fully identify with the party right now.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	I don't know if I saw this in your Instagram.
	You describe yourself as a Christian astrologer.
	What is that?
	Yeah, that's on my edge.
	Or your Twitter, yeah?
	You said you've seen it all, been through it all.
	What does that mean?
	Seen it all, been through it all.
	Yeah?
	Well, I told you a little bit about all the stuff.
	Well, yep, I have my abusive ex, and then I had a pretty abusive mom growing up.
	Like verbally, what kind?
	Like smash concrete lamps on my head and chase me with knives.
	Damn.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	So, you know, I've lived a lot of life very young.
	Question: Have you ever dated a guy?
	Like, has every guy you've dated been abusive to you?
	No.
	Okay.
	But some of them have.
	I would say that one is the only one that was like as intensely and physically abusive.
	The homeless guy?
	Or wait, which guy was that?
	Hold on.
	Let me.
	Not the homeless guy.
	The abusive boyfriend.
	Oh, the older.
	Like the four-year-old one.
	Okay.
	So.
	Oh, it's okay.
	Don't worry about it.
	55 donated 19.
	Unless you want to tell it.
	I don't know.
	I just say.
	Chair one.
	Are you wearing a Dale Jarrett UPS NASCAR jacket?
	If so, do you even know what NASCAR stands for?
	If you don't know the answer to this, you need to eat another banana.
	And you actually have to eat it in one bite.
	Can you do that?
	I like how you just assume it's the banana because it is.
	Wait, what?
	Because I don't know what it stands for.
	Oh, okay.
	I was just gifted this jacket.
	Oh, she got gifted.
	What the?
	Yeah.
	So do you want the banana now or later?
	Good talk.
	Maybe in a second.
	Okay.
	Just had one.
	She just ate one.
	Just had a banana.
	She just had one.
	In your.
	I think this is on your IG.
	Something Atherius Apothecary.
	What is that?
	Yeah, I own an apothecary.
	What is an apothecary?
	So it's kind of just like a small little self-care shop right now, but I do herbal blends.
	So I make two kinds of tea and I make lemon honey.
	And I'm working on a bug spray and a bug bite bomb for the summer cup.
	Excuse me.
	Oh my God.
	Do you do alchemy or is it just apothecary?
	Well, I mean, yeah, it's just the apothecary.
	Okay, you're not doing like crazy shit, though.
	Like witchcraft shit.
	Like, no.
	Okay.
	I do tarot readings and I bring saved.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Oh, no.
	But yes, I am also.
	A witch?
	Are you a witch?
	You're a Christian?
	Yeah.
	Wait, you're a Christian who does tarot.
	Isn't tarot cards.
	Isn't that like heresy?
	Yeah.
	Isn't that heresy?
	Right, chat.
	Any Christians in the chat, help me out.
	Yeah, I mean, it says in the Bible that stay away from your astrologers and tarot and things like that.
	But so.
	How do you reconcile that?
	Okay.
	So I'm trying to think of the best way to think about it.
	Think about it.
	No, I know why.
	I'm just trying to figure out how to display it eloquently enough so that anyone who can see this will also understand.
	You're a heretic?
	Just say that.
	Are you a heretic?
	No.
	What denomination of Christian are you?
	So here's the thing.
	My dad and I, we moved around a lot growing up, and so we jumped churches a lot, and I saw a lot of corruption in organized Christian churches.
	Yep.
	So I kind of learned by 14 that no one else can tell me about my relationship with God and that if I pray and I read my Bible and I hold the same values, no one else can determine my relationship with God but me.
	And so.
	So you're Protestant?
	Sure.
	Or like non-denominational?
	Yeah, like I'm very non-denominational.
	And I also.
	Are you satanic?
	No.
	Put that book.
	Okay.
	Do you think I'm satanic?
	Do I give Satanism?
	I don't know.
	The chat's spamming heresy, heresy, blasphemy, Satan.
	Oh, my God.
	She talks to demons.
	She's going to hell.
	I mean, I don't really care.
	Wait, so religion is that.
	Look, I'm not an expert in theology, but you're essentially saying you are the ultimate arbiter of your relationship with religion and God, and you make determinations as to interpretations related to the Bible.
	Yep.
	What is that called?
	There's a specific chat.
	There's a specific theological word for on the individual level where you make your own determinations.
	I don't know.
	Chat, anybody want to help me out there with the specific term?
	I think it's a Latin term.
	Anybody?
	Chat?
	Anybody?
	Not heresy?
	Gnostic?
	Christian?
	Cherry picking?
	No.
	Leftist?
	No.
	Called delusional?
	No.
	That's not what I'm looking for.
	Oh, sola scriptura.
	Thank you.
	That's what I was looking for.
	Sola scriptura.
	Wait, chat.
	I'm not, I don't know much about it.
	Is that a heresy, though?
	Sola scriptura.
	Is it heretical?
	I thought sola scriptura meant scripture alone.
	Is it heretical?
	Yeah.
	Or I don't.
	I don't know.
	I genuinely don't know.
	Yeah, it does.
	Sola scriptura.
	Chat.
	Is it heresy?
	Is that a heresy?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, it does mean that.
	Anyways, I'm just curious.
	All right, whatever.
	You said, let's see.
	Oh my gosh, so many, you had someone fake an Australian accent for two and a half years that you were dating?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Boy, mate.
	Are you giving you flashbacks?
	No, so like I had this one online boyfriend.
	So this was like my first boyfriend, but we were very on and off and I was 14 to 16.
	So I don't really consider it like a serious relationship of mine.
	But this was the partner when I said I don't get back, break up, get back together.
	This is why.
	There was one time we would just get in arguments and like fight and block each other.
	And so one time that happened, and like two months later, he asked me to call him.
	And so I do, and his Australian accent's gone.
	Damn.
	That's weird.
	Yeah, I was very taken aback.
	Wow.
	Okay, I'm going to let a couple chats come through.
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	Abusive seems to be a euphemism for not getting pamphered.
	F these Delulus.
	Also, Septum Piercings are for cows.
	Who has a Septum Piercing?
	Anybody?
	Me.
	Both of us.
	Yeah.
	Toast donated $20.
	Thank you, toast.
	Brixen, you have to admit Chair 5 looks like Xie.
	Out of curiosity, do you know a Kooma gremlin named Destiny?
	Have you had sex with Destiny?
	No.
	Do you know who Destiny is?
	Like the YouTuber?
	Coastal Operation donated $19 a stream.
	$99.
	Have you hooked up with him?
	For Brian.
	I don't remember.
	Chair 2 is Grunjitter.
	Chair 5 sounds like Elmo after his DUI.
	My voice is funny.
	You know you want to roast.
	Go off, King.
	One roast, Q, one roast.
	It can be pirate-related if you want.
	Pirate-related.
	Pirate-related.
	Pirate roast.
	But do better.
	I have nothing.
	Blame.
	Yeah.
	It won't be personal.
	Okay.
	So, going back to your notes, Emma, you said you had a best friend of yours sleep with you, then tell you he had a baby to be delivered soon.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	Oh, this one's a bit more interesting.
	You said an ex also had brain surgery, and it was a whole thing because you were only working and paying for all the bills.
	Oh, this is you said he was also extremely abusive, who strangled you and pulled a gun on you.
	We talked about that though.
	Question.
	Okay.
	And if it's too much, if it's a little sensitive, we don't have to do it.
	I came on here to talk about it.
	That's cool.
	Here's what I want you to do.
	With Laura.
	Yeah.
	Can you recreate the strangulation?
	Not full force.
	Only use 10%.
	Look, she's got a strong grip, though.
	She got a strong grip.
	I felt her handshake.
	So 10% of your power level.
	Only use 10% of your power level.
	Do you consent?
	I consent.
	Okay, go ahead.
	She's into it.
	She's getting a little excited now.
	Okay, they're recreating the.
	They're recreating it.
	I'm just worried he's going to see this.
	Okay.
	Don't hurt her, though, but just recreate.
	How did the strangulation go?
	So it was like I was standing with my back against the wall.
	Yeah.
	And I'll just pretend.
	He was trying.
	I had the Wi-Fi box like this.
	Oh.
	Shit.
	He's probably trying to play World of Warcraft or some shit.
	Call of Duty.
	Okay, oh, Call of Duty.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'm taking the Wi-Fi box.
	Went to grab it, and I like putted it over, and I wouldn't give it to him.
	And so he went like this, like this, and lifted me up the wall.
	Up the wall?
	I dropped the Wi-Fi box.
	He did like a...
	He lifted me up.
	What's that wrestling move?
	Where they grab the neck.
	Chokeslam.
	You got choke slam, right?
	Yeah.
	I didn't think so.
	I didn't get like slammed.
	Oh, okay.
	He lifted you up the ball.
	He lifted me up.
	Were you turned on a little bit?
	Oh my god.
	Wait, was it one?
	Was that where you turned on a little bit?
	Not when I'm like fearing for my life.
	Yeah.
	Okay, part two of this.
	Here, pass this down.
	Here, grab that.
	Reenact the gun scenario with the banana.
	This is therapy right now.
	Okay, reenact it.
	Here, use the banana as the gun on Kaylee.
	Okay, so the gun came out last.
	Is this after you got choked?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So am I going to get canceled for this?
	Maybe.
	Making her relive her trauma.
	Banana violence.
	I've done it.
	This is probably therapeutic, to be honest.
	She's being brave.
	Thank you for sharing.
	I don't think any healing happens for myself or for other people who have been in some wars.
	Don't worry about it.
	Just show us the banana gun.
	Talk about it.
	Just do the banana gun.
	So he had just beaten you down in the hallway.
	Don't worry about that.
	Just show us the gun.
	Okay.
	Stick it to stick it.
	No, Kaylee, she's the victim.
	And then Kaylee has to eat it after.
	And I'm good lining in.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So I tried to call the cops, and he had just taken all the phones, so he really didn't want me calling the cops.
	So he ran over to his bag, unzipped it, and pulled out the gun.
	We had just gotten back from this trip.
	Damn, don't do it.
	You don't gotta do that, man.
	You don't gotta do it if you don't want to do it.
	Damn.
	I don't know if I can do all that, but yeah.
	Show us on the banana where he.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	Is that too far?
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Can I reenact this one time Q actually pulled it here?
	Pass me the banana.
	So this one time Q pulled a gun on me.
	He's like, give me your money.
	And I was like, no.
	And he's like, yes.
	And I was like, no.
	And that was it.
	Sorry.
	I'm just kidding.
	He didn't put a gun on.
	I just take it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good talk, guys.
	Okay, let's see.
	You just be getting into situations, really.
	All right.
	You said you disagree.
	You typically agree with Brian on most things, but the bullet thing you disagree with.
	You think you shouldn't be dating if you're not willing to take a bullet for your partner.
	We talked about that.
	Let's see.
	Lack of.
	I also think the porn industry is harmful.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	It's extremely hard to find men who want anything except sexual gratification quickly.
	This has been perpetuated by social media and the rise in porn.
	Women contributing to the sex work industry then creates a vicious cycle that men expect shallow sexual gratification.
	And women feel as though their most valuable or only valuable aspect is sex.
	I think so.
	Okay.
	Trauma bonding, pass.
	You think men do themselves and everyone surrounding them a disservice by not speaking their emotions honestly?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Disagree?
	I don't think men should be emotional in front of women, to be honest.
	Especially a girl you're romantically interested in.
	Very interesting.
	Yeah, that's so interesting.
	No, you need to be like, you need to keep that shit in and let it blow up.
	Okay.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I think you should want to share that with your partner.
	I think you should find someone who makes you feel so comfortable that you can be that vulnerable with them.
	That's beautiful.
	That's so beautiful.
	Here's what I think.
	I think as a man, you got to bottle that shit in and then just let the aneurysm take you at 50.
	How does that benefit you or your kids?
	I think that's so valuable.
	It definitely blows up away from you.
	How does that benefit you or your future wife or kids?
	You know what?
	It doesn't, but that's just kind of, that's what you do as a man.
	You just accept the high blood pressure.
	She's a nurse.
	She knows what I'm talking about.
	I feel like your relationship isn't gonna.
	You know, you just listen, as a guy, you don't vent.
	You don't show vulnerability to your girlfriend.
	You just bottle that shit in and let the aneurysm take care of it when you're in your 50s.
	That's it.
	There's no communication in that relationship.
	So how is it going to work out?
	And then I'm going to be able to do that.
	I love it.
	I don't know.
	Just like, do my laundry.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm like, you're a Taurus.
	I mean, bow.
	You know, just bow, do my laundry, sit in the corner.
	Your native corner while you hold really intense eye contact with me, like Emma did earlier.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	No, I don't know.
	It's just like, here's the thing.
	As a guy, if you share these vulnerable things with women, a lot of times women use that shit against you in future arguments.
	Are you laughing because you're great?
	No, it's true, though.
	You did that shit, right?
	You've done that shit.
	Yeah.
	Like, some girl will say some like fucked up, some crazy shit.
	Like, oh man.
	A guy will say something like this, man.
	You know, growing up, I didn't really get to spend that much time with my dad.
	And then in the argument, the girl's going to be like, no wonder your dad didn't want to spend no fucking time with you because you're a fucking bitch.
	You know, some girl will say some crazy shit like that.
	You know what I mean?
	Situation.
	Men do the same thing too, though.
	Yeah, I think that's why it's so hard for there to be that vulnerable emotional connection with people in general.
	I feel like we've kind of lost that a little bit.
	There's either too much of it or not enough.
	I don't have a cave for that.
	I think men, I think there's a healthy way, masculine way to be vulnerable.
	I think it's contextual.
	As long as you don't emotionally dump or overwhelm her or basically vent to where you don't have a solution or a plan prepared, it builds intimacy.
	So I've never had a woman, any woman that I've dated seriously, use anything against me that I told her because I know how to be vulnerable and I know how to vet a woman to, if I can trust her, to be vulnerable with her.
	I don't just vent to any woman, but that's awesome.
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	Keep the crystal-wielding wench away from the effing children.
	She's poisoning the next generation with witchcraft and astrological brain lot.
	Panel, how many of you are participating in hypergamy?
	Coastal operator denotes 99.
	Nobody?
	Okay, they're not.
	Last show, Q looked like he wanted to take some of the girls home.
	This show, he looks like he just wants to go home.
	Ryan, when are you getting you on the cardio?
	Soon.
	It's soon.
	March.
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	Hey, share two.
	How hard do you try to portray yourself as a fit, attractive girl on social media?
	What filters or angles do you use?
	And do you consider that as false advertising?
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	Thank you, Pickle Rick.
	Thank you.
	Panel, dating in 2025 is worse than having spicy diarrhea.
	True or false?
	True, false.
	True, Can you please stop masturbating the microphone, please?
	It's scripting.
	You are molesting my microphone stand, miss.
	You said, final note for you: women frequently get away with domestic violence more often.
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	You want to add?
	I know you have other than notes, but I'll just prompt you to, if you want to just say it.
	Okay, I'll read it for you.
	I'd argue they're often the main perpetrators, yet are the ones who are still seen as victims.
	This doesn't account for every case, as men can be and are also aggressive abusers.
	Yep.
	Were you ever the DV starter?
	I wasn't ever the initiate, but I definitely did respond to behavior.
	When I wrote that comment, my mom was, like I said, my mom was really abusive.
	And so my entire life, my mom just really got away with that.
	I mean, she lost her kids, and my dad won custody of me.
	Wait, can you tilt straighten your mic?
	Or no, scoot it back that way?
	Scoot that way.
	Yep, go ahead.
	Okay.
	My mom lost custody of both of my half-brothers, and then my dad got custody of me.
	But my mom got away with just so much treacherous behavior, like calling and making false police reports that my dad said he was going to bomb government buildings so the police would show up at our door.
	You know, she was very physically violent with me and my brothers.
	Yeah, and I've seen it's like when I was young, everyone seemed to have a functional mom in their life.
	And now that I'm older, I feel like I see a lot more women my age displaying similar behaviors that my mom had with drinking or unhealthy coping, and then, you know, like the rise of BPD and episodes like that.
	Do you have BPD?
	I don't.
	Any personality disorder?
	I don't have a personality disorder.
	Anybody here?
	BPD, bipolar?
	Bipolar.
	Bipolar?
	I have BPD.
	You have what?
	I have bipolar disorder.
	Oh, you have bipolar.
	Okay.
	BPD.
	BPD.
	Nurse.
	Is that a personality disorder?
	I'm kidding.
	Personality disorder.
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	Nothing?
	Nothing.
	A little autism, maybe?
	Per chance?
	A little autism?
	It's okay.
	I'm autistic, too.
	It's like, it's kind of like we can, you know how black people can say the N-word?
	Oh my God.
	You know how black people can say the N-word to other.
	it's like autistic people can be like what's up my autist okay well i oh boy That's your journey.
	It's my journey.
	It's your journey, and it may be mine, too.
	I haven't really, I don't really think so.
	But.
	Oh, thank you.
	That was very, very kind.
	Don't want to dry it out, dry it out.
	Yeah.
	Why do you say that?
	Because it comes off as though I don't care what other people about people's feelings.
	I have an autism radar.
	Oh.
	I have an autism radar, and I'm detecting slight amounts of autism from you.
	But I know it because I myself am probably autistic.
	Oh, really?
	To some degree.
	Well, there's a lot of very rich and successful people that are.
	That's right.
	We are going to make it.
	We're all going to make it.
	We're all going to make it.
	Okay, cool.
	Let's see here.
	Moving to Carrie.
	Speaking of autism, moving to your notes.
	You said if you're ever looking to hear from a feminist who doesn't agree with modern feminism's pro-pornography approach, I'd love to be on your podcast.
	Okay, so you're a feminist.
	Yeah, in the traditional sense of the word.
	So like anti-porn.
	You're anti-porn.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anti-porn for sure.
	Yeah.
	And the day, you also said in your notes, in the days you were more involved with hookup culture, you went on a date with someone you had been hooking up with for a while.
	You realized that when you actually went out on a date with each other, you had absolutely nothing to talk about.
	It was very quiet as a result, and also quite awkward.
	It was around this time that I realized I needed a lifestyle change.
	Yeah.
	And you said when you were involved in hookup culture, when you were involved with hookup culture.
	Yeah.
	When was that?
	You had like a ho phase or whatever?
	Yeah.
	When was the ho phase?
	So I went before my current university, I had another university that I went to in Pennsylvania and I basically just partied all three years.
	And so that was like around 21 that I stopped kind of just fucking around.
	Good times.
	21, you stopped fucking around.
	Yeah.
	But you were fucking around.
	You said historically you like the fact that this podcast addresses the issues with OnlyFans sex workers.
	You pride yourself on the ability to use old-school feminist theory to fight pornography.
	Okay.
	Unfortunately, there's, let's see.
	The current cultural framework in which Americans live emphasizes this perception that women are sex objects.
	And you believe that sites like TikTok, for example, are also desensitizing young people to this phenomenon.
	You disagree, though.
	You think that the show tends to dichotomize the issue of the sexual objectification of girls and women into being far more simplistic than it actually is.
	For example, as if these cultural narratives can be approached from a conservative versus OnlyFans girl perspective.
	You, however, believe that this issue is far more complex than what meets the eye and the understanding, and understanding these details is a necessity.
	Okay.
	You want to elaborate a little bit?
	Yeah.
	So I don't think that there's anyone here that you had an OnlyFans account, right?
	Okay, yeah.
	So we talked about this throughout the day, but there are a lot of neurological effects that OnlyFans has on like men, for example, that feminists, modern feminists, seem to ignore.
	That is something that I think needs to be addressed.
	And I think that we should even get to the point as a society, or I wouldn't even frame it that way, but there should be like, and this isn't very libertarian of me, but we should get to the point where it's actually like there's a whole medical process that takes place, like medical screening that takes place prior to men consuming OnlyFans models.
	So that they should go through like they should be like given a survey of their health background.
	Yeah.
	Wait, men, you're a libertarian, but you want men to have a power.
	I know it's not very libertarian of me.
	To have to do that.
	Shouldn't there be, wouldn't you rather cut it off at the source for the porn creators?
	So you think that I should, well, the thing is, though, is that that's hindering, like, capitalism, really.
	Yeah, wouldn't it be hindering what?
	Wait, it is.
	Because it's stopping them from being able to do it in the first place.
	And I don't think that that's practical.
	I think that these women want to do it though.
	That would be way more practical than establishing this for men before they can watch porn.
	I mean, but the thing is, I feel that people are going to do it anyway.
	So it's just like cigarette boxes or alcohol.
	Do you think there are more pornography?
	Do you think there are more porn stores or people who consume porn?
	People who consume porn.
	Okay, so it would be way more difficult.
	Like, it would require much more effort to have the hundreds of millions or even billions of men who consume porn have to take a survey of mental psychological evaluation versus just saying porn's illegal, cut that shit off.
	Oh, so you think that we should criminalize porn?
	Basically.
	No, I didn't say that, but.
	Okay.
	No, but maybe is that.
	Wait, I don't even like just to be fair.
	This is just never going to happen.
	So I'm not sure if it's even worth talking about.
	That's what I mean.
	It's never going to happen.
	We're never going to get rid of porn.
	Yeah, also we're not going to be able to survey men before they don't think so?
	With like a health precaution of some kind of warning before they like go into consuming OnlyFans?
	Because this like drastically affects their dopamine balances in their brain.
	I mean, it affects the women there.
	It would be nice if there was no war.
	Like it'd be great if there's no war.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I just don't know if it's worth talking about.
	Like, oh, what would like, let's talk about the practicalities of a world without war.
	Like, is it even worth having the conversation?
	Because it's just never going to happen.
	It's like, what's the point?
	Well, I think it's worth having that.
	I mean, a lot of libertarians are going to be a little bit more likely.
	I don't know if we're talking about like a million different hypotheticals here.
	I'm trying to move things.
	No, I know that.
	I know that you are.
	Okay.
	So we can move on to the next thing.
	Well, that was the last thing for that.
	But Rocky, you said you love to come on the podcast, talk about the whole equality feminist bullshit.
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	You said, especially being a female mechanic deployed and working on bass definitely taught me a lot and showed you a lot in that sense.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but there's no, I mean, there's no like feminist on here.
	And I feel like a lot of us.
	She's a feminist.
	She's a feminist.
	Yeah, but when they talked about, like, we didn't really go into the whole feminism thing.
	Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't consider myself a feminist by today's standards because it's, yeah.
	I've already said that, but you know.
	Okay, Rocky, your notes.
	You said one time you met a guy online who had tattoos in his pictures.
	In person, he did not.
	When you asked about it, he ended the date early and left.
	Yes.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah.
	We met up.
	Well, I seen him first on Twitter.
	I thought he was good looking.
	So then we met up on a date.
	We went to Yogurt Land.
	So cute.
	And we're sitting there.
	And I didn't even notice at first.
	And then I realized that he had no tattoos.
	But in his picture, he had like a whole sleeve.
	So did he look like his pictures in the face?
	No, not really.
	That's the thing.
	He's like, no, he kind of looked like him, but at the same time, he kind of looked a little goofy.
	Like, you know, you have the Gucci version and then the Walmart version.
	Like, that's what he's looked off.
	Question.
	So he had tattoos in his online photos.
	Yes.
	Because I know they make like t-shirts that look like sleeves or whatever, but and in person he did not.
	And were you upset?
	Were you kind of disappointed?
	When I first seen him, I was because he didn't look like himself really.
	And then he also looked taller too in his picture, which is like whatever.
	But it was just weird because when I asked him about the tattoos, that's when he got all weird.
	And he's like, I have to leave.
	And he left.
	And that was it.
	That's pretty weird.
	Wouldn't this just be like the same as women who wear makeup though?
	Yeah.
	Like you were, oh man, he doesn't actually have tattoos.
	And it's like the same thing with, oh, she doesn't actually like look like that.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's the same thing.
	It's the same thing.
	Yeah.
	Although it's weird when you confronted him.
	Like, did it look photoshopped or like fake sleeves?
	Weird for me was that when we were messaging, we were talking about tattoos.
	And he was telling me about his tattoos and how many he had.
	So that's what made it weird.
	Like he was making it a thing when he didn't even have tattoos.
	Yeah.
	You know, if he would have not said anything, I would have never even like makeup.
	He pulled a Pete Davison.
	Something like that.
	Well, he got all his tattoos removed.
	You said successfully.
	Oh, okay.
	You said a lot of people in the military cheat a lot.
	Did you cheat?
	No, I did not.
	Okay.
	Well, I wasn't in a relationship when I was there, anyways.
	I see.
	Did you question, have you, did you like smash in?
	Where did you say you went to Afghanistan?
	Kuwait.
	No, Kuwait, Jordan, and Iraq.
	Iraq.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't know where I was going with that.
	You said you lost your V-card to a guy at 16.
	You thought you were in love.
	But he was in a relationship for five years.
	He was in a relationship for five years.
	Yeah, so he had a girlfriend the whole time.
	Suicide chick.
	Yeah, and like it sucks because I've always thought that I was going to wait till marriage for some reason.
	Like, I just always like thought that that was really special.
	And so when I see like all my other friends doing it, and then I meet this guy that's giving me all this attention, you know?
	And so it sucks that I guess that kind of made me feel like every man was like that.
	And so after that, it just ruined my perspective on just men in general.
	And it took me a while to actually, like, grow up and realize that, no, not every man is the same.
	But you know it sucks and I envy you that.
	You know that you still have that, because sometimes I do wish that.
	You know that I did keep it that way.
	Sorry that you had to experience that as well because, like you, shouldn't have to deal with somebody lying either.
	So you said you always dated older men, but now you're dating a younger man and never been happier.
	So you're 24.
	How old is he?
	He is 22.
	Okay, so you're enjoying that relationship.
	That's cool.
	You also said that uh, there's a disagreement you have.
	Final thing in your notes, I believe, when it comes, why didn't you bring this up when we did the rating thing?
	Um, when it comes to the rating scale, you understand both viewpoints, but I really think it doesn't matter if a woman thinks she's a 10 but in reality she's a four, who effing cares?
	At the end of the day, she's gonna attract who she attracts and who she doesn't, she doesn't.
	So, regardless what you think about yourself, it doesn't matter because, end of the day, no one cares.
	Yeah, I mean, I just I don't know.
	I just feel like nobody really cares, like everybody has their different preferences.
	Yeah, there's like the, the scale and everything, and but I just don't feel like it's a really important topic honestly.
	Oh, I think it's important um, and I mean i'm just because it's late, i'm gonna spend maybe 30 minutes.
	Sorry, 30 minutes, 30 seconds on it, 30 seconds on it.
	I was like so, look here, I think we kind of talked about it already, but here's, the big thing is that, as a woman, you will have men who, who will be sexually interested in you but have no intention whatsoever of ever being in a relationship with you.
	And typically those men who are going to be dealing with you sexually but have no relationship or long-term or marriage intention are typically going to be doing that because you're less attractive than them.
	So what ends up happening as a woman, if you think you're you're, you are better looking than you actually are, you're gonna have high, you're gonna perhaps think you can have higher standards.
	You're gonna be chasing after uh, guys who are more attractive or guys you know, because you can sleep with a guy who's got status or who's really good looking or who's famous or has money, but can you get commitment from him, and so what ends up happening if you're a girl like, for example let me, let me give you the role reversal.
	I think it'll make it easier.
	Let's say there's a guy who he's a six or he's just average looking, but there are women who are more attractive than him.
	And before I get into that, you can all agree, have you guys ever seen a guy who's with a more attractive woman?
	Yes yeah, like a guy who's mid, who's dating.
	You think she's a beautiful girl, women y'all will have.
	Really, you're really unfair when it comes to your looks, assessments of men.
	So let's say this guy he's mid, he's a five, and let's say there's six seven, eights and nines who want to sleep with him, but that's all they want.
	Like seven eight nines, they want to sleep with him, but that's all.
	He gets just sex right.
	And let's say he's on your level like, let's say some of you girls here said you're six, whatever.
	Why is he gonna settle for you and you want a relationship with him?
	Why is he gonna deal with you when he can have a bunch of casual sex and get attention, with attention from women Who are more attractive than you?
	And maybe he'll occasionally get like a situationship.
	One of these girls will keep him around for sex for three months, a month, six months.
	Why would that guy deal with you?
	And you're on his level though.
	Technically, you guys deserve each other.
	Why is he going to deal with you when he's getting sex with all these women?
	He wouldn't, right?
	Now, I know there's some differences when it comes to sex between men and women.
	Different, you know, there's some differences there.
	But y'all be dealing with guys who you'll never get a relationship with, right?
	The reverse never happens.
	Like the scenario I described where here's this mid-guy, all these eights, nines, and tens want to fuck him.
	Doesn't happen, right?
	But you would understand why.
	Oh, why can't I get a relationship with him?
	He's getting, but here's why, because he's getting sexual attention from women who are more attractive than y'all.
	You guys are getting sexual attention from men who are more attractive than you.
	We all want to get the best that we can get.
	When it comes to dating, we all want the best partner, the funniest, the best personality, the most money, the best looking, whatever it is that you care about.
	You want to get the best that we can get.
	We're all greedy when it comes to dating.
	We're all trying to get the most optimum partner.
	Because of this, as men, if I think I'm a 10, doesn't fucking matter.
	If I think I'm a 10, I'm not getting a 10.
	Doesn't matter as a guy.
	Like, here's the thing.
	If I'm trying to get a girl who's a Victoria Secret model, I'm getting instantly rejected.
	And I recognize this and I accept this as fact.
	I'm not delusional about it.
	I'm not even upset by it.
	If I step to a girl who's a Victoria Secret model or some like big name celebrity who's also attractive, whatever it is, a woman who has status, I'm not getting anything.
	I'm not getting a conversation.
	I'm not getting sex.
	I'm not getting a date.
	I'm not getting a first kiss.
	Men get rejected on the front end.
	We get rejected up front.
	You guys get rejected after you've fucked a guy once, twice, three times.
	Maybe, maybe he keeps you around for a situation.
	You get rejected by never getting the commitment from the man, right?
	And so because of this, because you can get these guys, you're going to think, oh, okay, I can sleep with a guy who's, I fucked this really attractive guy once.
	I must be a 10-to.
	And then what ends up happening is y'all start looking at the guys who are actually on your level, who are ready to be monogamous, who are ready to give you commitment, who are ready to give you a relationship, who are ready to give you a ring.
	You look at those guys and you think you're settling for them.
	It's actually absolutely tragic because a lot of women spend their 20s sleeping with a bunch of dudes and then, oh, 30, okay, time to get married.
	Okay, I'm going to settle for this guy.
	And you've dealt with like men who are way more attractive than him.
	Men who fucked you way better.
	And now you're going to be in a in like a relationship with a guy who you're sexually dissatisfied with.
	You lack attraction for him, but you do it out of necessity just because you want to get married and have kids or whatever it is.
	That marriage is inevitably going to fail.
	Or maybe you're just going to be contemptuous and nag the shit out of him.
	And he's probably going to be some soy boy, blue-pilled dude.
	That's what the that's why the rating thing is so important because y'all can deal with men who are of a certain caliber when it comes to how attractive they are.
	And if you think you're more attractive than you are, you're going to be perpetually chasing those dudes.
	You're never going to get commitment, never get a relationship.
	And then your brain is fucking fried.
	Like think about it this way.
	Let's say I could fuck Victoria's secret models, but none of them would give me a relationship.
	And now I got it.
	The girl who actually will give me a relationship is average looking.
	You think I'm going to be sexually attracted to her?
	You think I'm going to enjoy sex with her?
	I'm going to be thinking, oh my God, bro, this Victoria Secret model.
	Like, oh, it was so much better.
	You know what I mean?
	That's what y'all are doing, though.
	Yeah, no, I get it.
	And so that's why the rating thing is so important.
	Is like, y'all got to be realistic about the kind of men you can get because I know you guys can fuck men who are really attractive.
	I know you can deal with like NBA players, NFL players.
	You got DMs from those guys, rappers, whatever.
	Are they going to give you commitment?
	And we all want to chase the best thing that we can get.
	So you're going to chase after those dudes.
	You won't get commitment.
	And then finally, when it's time to settle down, you're going to settle for the guy who's actually on your level.
	And that's why it's dangerous.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That was very long-winded.
	There's also people that get married, though, at a young age, and they're divorced by 30-something, though.
	Sure.
	Do you have anything to say on that?
	About what happens?
	Because, you know, pretty much all these women are getting ran through.
	Let me get married at 30.
	There's women that get married at a young age and then they're divorced by 30-something.
	Sure.
	I guess that happens.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I don't, sure.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm going to let the chats come through.
	Blafis donated $20.
	Chair 7.
	You look like if unenthusiastic hand jobs had a face.
	Chair 2.
	Everyone on your body count should be able to claim it as a charitable donation.
	Oh my God.
	Blafis.
	These nuts hargot him donated $20.
	Chair 1 and 3 boys brought dishonor to their Famiris.
	Brain with the huge dumpy.
	Lay off the burritos.
	Also, tell your boy Kevin Hart to wake up and stop wearing his sister's sweater.
	The fucking thing.
	594 donated $20.
	These nuts.
	Why did you lie about your of?
	Brian has the screenshots.
	What?
	You do it.
	So stop lying.
	Be honest.
	Really?
	Are you capping about the OF?
	No.
	Somebody says you did OnlyFans.
	Okay, I did have OF, but there was no.
	Hey!
	But there was no porridge on it.
	There's no.
	You don't see me getting it.
	She was lying by the way.
	I swear on my dad's grave.
	Whoa, don't you shouldn't do that.
	No, I will because there's no video footage.
	Okay.
	By the way, that was the first roast for you tonight.
	So you thought you were going to get through the roast session without a roast.
	You got roasted.
	Okay, good talking.
	We have this one.
	Bren donated $20.
	Getting rid of all sites like OnlyFans and Fansly would be the first step towards a better society.
	Also, Brian, I gotta shout out Levi Nixon to put him on Check DMs.
	Yo, Bren, thank you for the message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Okay.
	I'm pretty sure, is that it for all the notes?
	Or is there more?
	Okay, we did Rocky.
	Oh, we got Kaylee.
	Oh, we hit most of this stuff here, I think.
	I think the only thing I have is my dating story, which is not even that exciting.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to think if there's...
	Oh, I'll just read it.
	It's just an anecdote.
	You went on a date with a guy who tried to cook you dinner.
	The chicken ended up being undercooked, and you ate it anyway.
	Because you felt bad.
	You're a trooper.
	I felt really bad.
	Were you sick after that?
	Oh, oh, there's more.
	Yeah.
	He attempted to kiss you.
	When he did, he started to growl and it made you feel weird.
	Growl, man.
	Can you hear reenactment growl?
	It wasn't sexy, like a little or something like that.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so he like, okay, so okay.
	Do it.
	So he started kissing me, and then he went up by my ear, right?
	Oh, I forgot to put the worst.
	No, no, no, I forgot to put the worst part of the story in there.
	He licked the inside of my ear, and I was not having it.
	Okay, so after he did that, I was like, I'm just so ticklish, like, so that he didn't feel bad.
	And then he went, he went, um, like, like, it wasn't like sexy.
	It was like really like a, like a, like a, like a, that's how I felt.
	You told me to do it.
	Oh, no. Okay. Okay.
	And, oh, you pre okay.
	That's crazy.
	Good times.
	Okay, I'm.
	Oh.
	Wait.
	Me?
	Do you have?
	Did you have notes?
	No, I did not.
	You said, I think the only thing bringing in previous relationships into current relationships.
	Yeah, I mean, like, when, like, if you, like, if you talk, if you're in a relationship and you bring your past relationship, that kind of ruins your current relationship.
	Like, why would you do that?
	Unless, unless, like, if in the beginning, like, oh, like, you know, like, what, like, what have you met in the past?
	Like, kind of like unraveling trauma.
	But honestly, if it continues after that, if you guys are in a relationship, you know, like, there's no point.
	Like, why?
	Exactly where I broke up with the nurse.
	Oh, no.
	Doll Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Brian, how did you manage to get Miss Piggy on the panel?
	Damn.
	She's out here cheating on germit.
	What the hell?
	I am not that big, thank you.
	All right, last call, guys.
	Last call on the TTS.
	That's the final call.
	We're gonna get this wrapped up.
	As I'm getting everything wrapped up, your nurse, our nurse is crazy.
	Yes.
	Are you crazy?
	No, I am not anymore.
	Anymore.
	I have like a very what do you mean?
	Wait, hold on.
	What do you mean, anymore?
	I mean, I just would like to, you know, like pick fights and stuff.
	In relationships?
	Yeah, just like for no reason.
	Give me an example.
	I don't know.
	Pick a fight with me right now.
	Got it.
	Like, something's so stupid.
	Like, I don't know.
	I'm just like, why did you fall asleep on me when I want you to call me or am I saying?
	It'd be something so stupid.
	But I'm like, no, I'm over it.
	I'm so toxic.
	I am.
	I'm like, I'm so toxic.
	Or like, just, I don't know.
	It's like, I try not to think about me, like, to help, like, the world doesn't revolve around me.
	You start arguments because you get attention?
	Yeah.
	At least she's honest.
	Yes, I am.
	But I've done a lot better.
	Like, you like it when the guy is annoyed, kind of.
	I used to, but I was like, it was more like, like, give me attention kind of thing.
	But now I'm just like over it because being a nurse.
	That's so bad.
	That's so bad.
	More patience.
	I'm very calm now.
	Oh, when was this?
	Like, when you were younger, is what you're saying?
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Let me know.
	Doll Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Brian, how did you manage to get Miss Piggy on the panel?
	Damn.
	She's out here cheating on German.
	What the hell?
	It's a real Frank Castle.
	Damn.
	Was it twice?
	Yeah.
	That was sent to the dead.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	I did work out yours, though, I think one podcast ago here.
	Okay.
	Oh, we have another one.
	Captain underscore America donated $20.
	Chair 5, Leviticus 1931.
	Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists for you will be defiled by them.
	I am the Lord your God, Slightly Bland panel.
	Where's Stelina?
	Where's Selena?
	Hmm.
	In Luke 21, 22 through 25, there's this verse that says, God will put systems in the stars as signs for the final days.
	And I think.
	Let me see the mic.
	Hmm?
	In Luke 21, 22.
	No, they heard it, but.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That it?
	Yeah.
	That's one of my favorite verses.
	Nurses are crazy.
	You're crazy.
	You used to be crazy.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah, nurses are crazy.
	I'll admit that.
	I mean, like, the trauma that we see in the hospital, like, we see a lot of crazy stuff.
	Wait, have you ever done this?
	Because you said you, like, would start fights or whatever.
	You just, you know.
	Have you?
	A guy wasn't texting you quick enough or didn't text you back or whatever.
	And then would you say something like, okay, guess I'll talk to you later then or something like that?
	Oh, I was just thinking like the talent streaming, like, like, what if this was an important text message?
	But, like, as I've gotten older, like, that was so stupid.
	It was like high school stuff.
	Like, I don't know.
	I feel like I've matured quite a bit, honestly.
	Sure.
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	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, we're going to do a quick Twitch raid.
	We're going to do Grayson, okay, Damien?
	If you can.
	Oh, oh, they just.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, we're going to do Twitch raid.
	Get Grayson pulled up.
	Oh, my God.
	They got a binding.
	Holy shit.
	Wait, do the raid.
	Pull it up.
	Oh, dude.
	Pull up.
	Pull it up.
	Oh!
	They got a binding.
	Holy shit.
	Oh, mother.
	They got a fucking binding.
	Oh, my God.
	Holy shit.
	Holy shit.
	And they got flame guard gauntlets.
	God damn.
	Holy shit, bro.
	We just missed it a little bit.
	God damn.
	Good for him.
	Holy shit.
	That's good loot from Baron.
	Get him.
	Holy shit.
	Oh, it's not hardcore.
	Okay.
	Hey, we only need one.
	I thought it was hardcore.
	We only need one style.
	Guys, the binding is HR, bro.
	Okay, thank you guys for watching over there on Twitch.
	I'm going to send him a raid.
	Yo, when I send you guys over, when I send you guys over, tell him he needs to delete the binding.
	Tell him to delete the binding from his inventory.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	We're going to send the raid right now.
	I hope you guys are on Twitch after the night.
	Thank you guys.
	All right, Brats.
	Cheola.
	Cheula getting gear?
	Look at those shoulders.
	Aren't these fish shoulders for looks?
	Holy shit, boys.
	That's hot as hell, bro.
	Yo, whatever.
	Thank you for the raid.
	Hello, guys.
	Delete, delete binding.
	Hey, nope.
	No, we are not deleting that binding.
	Oh, hell no, dude.
	94.
	98 from Scotty.
	All right.
	Wow, that was pretty good timing.
	That's fate right there.
	Those who don't know anything about World of Warcraft, the bindings are super rare.
	It's a legendary item.
	Very, very rare.
	It's one of the most coveted items.
	Well, you need the other binding from the other boss, but it's one of the most coveted items in World of Warcraft.
	So, what?
	What?
	What just total happenstance that he got a binding right as we rated him?
	Anyways, you can close that out.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for tuning in.
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	I hope you guys have a good night.
	07s in the chat.
	07s.
	What are we forgetting?
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Let me just double-check, make sure there were no.
	I don't want to.
	Okay, sorry, there was just one more that came through.
	I didn't want to screw this guy.
	Go over.
	Uh-oh.
	All Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Nurses are 304s now.
	They like to fuck married or not.
	I've had a few in my past.
	Yo, thank you.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	Yeah, I mean, not all nurses, but I don't want to call out a specific specialty, but wait, do it, do it, do it, do it.
	I know, like, ER nurses, like, you know, how like when you watch upgrades anatomy kind of thing, it's kind of like similar.
	Like, they have their own like drama and like that.
	ER nurses.
	Yeah.
	But I see I see you part of.
	No, we are critical care departments, ER and IC, but we are completely separate.
	ICU is like you could go to the emergency room, get like put first minor.
	Yeah, proclaim it on, and then they go to the ICU to be more stabilized.
	We maintain the patients a little bit more.
	Okay.
	But in ER, you get you see like firefighters and police officers, like men in uniforms.
	Nice.
	So that's, yeah, that's the whole thing going on down in that world.
	Nurses, nurses.
	We got to do a whole show on there.
	I should just have a nurse panel.
	You got some nurses?
	I need a nurse panel.
	That'd be definitely.
	Yo, chat.
	Would you like to see a nurse panel?
	I think that'd be good.
	Just all nurses.
	Anyways.
	All right.
	07s in the chat, guys.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	Thank you to the wonderful panel, by the way.
	Good night, guys.

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