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HEATED Debate With Woke Feminist?! Boss Babe Picks Career Over PERFECT Man?! | Dating Talk #229

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	Oh no, she called me the N-word multiple times.
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	And I do believe Andrew will be joining us a little bit later on in the show.
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	Go ahead.
	My name is Brenda.
	I am 24.
	I am from Los Angeles and I am a digital artist in electronic music dancing and I create content.
	All right.
	Any like school, college, anything like that?
	Yeah, no.
	Associate's degree?
	Yeah, associates, yeah.
	But what did you get?
	Bachelor's or bachelor's, I'm sorry.
	Or like what was the major?
	So I went in pre-med and then I changed to nutrition and then just general education.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And you said you do rave content.
	Yeah, well, EM content.
	I am a raver.
	Yeah.
	We should have had you come in rave gear.
	You should have told me.
	I would have brought some stuff.
	I would have, yeah.
	Right over my head.
	Didn't even.
	All right.
	It's okay.
	Next time.
	That's cool.
	And how often do you go to raves and stuff?
	So I work in the scenes, so it's pretty often.
	But recently I took a break and now I just go like once a month or whenever I have to work, then I go for work.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	My name is Patrice.
	I just turned 26 years old.
	I'm from New Jersey.
	For a while, I was for the last year.
	I was a stay-at-home fiancé.
	But currently I'm going back to my right after this trip.
	I'm going back home to my job as a waitress bartender.
	I have a little bit of schooling.
	I've changed my life path so many times, but I started as pre-law and political science.
	That didn't work out.
	So then I spent like a year and a half studying health and nutrition, doing bodybuilding competitions.
	I did some macro fitness work, personal training as a side job for a while.
	And currently, I have like a lot of things that I'm thinking of doing, but I was thinking of going back to school to work in air traffic control, especially with all the planes crashing and everything happening.
	It's a consideration.
	We need it.
	We need those ATC people.
	And so you're from Jersey, you said?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And any education, any school?
	I don't have any official degree.
	No, I have some qualifications.
	But did you go to college or I did, yes.
	I did.
	I went to Coastal Carolina for a year, and then I did community college for a year.
	Gotcha.
	Damien, did we recently have someone on who also went to that?
	I could have somebody went to that school recently.
	Who was it?
	Was it?
	Was it last show?
	Someone who went?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, cool.
	Welcome.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Kelly, like a California, and I'm from South Korea.
	Okay.
	And I moved out here about this October gonna be seven years.
	And I used to fashion stylist in Korea for K-Pa Bitor and any other fashion brand after graduated university school with the fashion major.
	So working for five years.
	Then when I was 27, I just decided to move out here to explore and any entertainment thing, music industry, any other art industry for yes.
	So right now, I just turned 33.
	You're 33, yes.
	Got it.
	And I see you have some gems in your teeth.
	What do you call that?
	What is that?
	It's a two-stam.
	It's a two-stam.
	So since I think 2019, like what started at that moment, and then I got this certificate above five years ago in LA.
	Yeah.
	So I'm a two-stem technician.
	Two-stem technician, yeah.
	Okay, cool, cool.
	And you offer this, though, as a service?
	Yes, I do.
	My location is downtown LA, and there's a plus add to the teeth whitening, nails, and pedicure, and grills.
	And grills.
	Yes.
	Grills.
	Okay.
	And you're when did you move from South Korea?
	About seven?
	Did you say seven years ago?
	2018.
	Oh, okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And I looked at your Instagram, like, you have a lot of posts on there.
	Like, it's over a thousand.
	Oh, yeah, it is.
	I went to the very bottom, by the way.
	Oh, no.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	I don't know if that's if you're like kind of frightened by that.
	Like, whoa, he knows what I looked like 10 years ago.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm so scared.
	But you honestly, you've had more hairstyles, more hair colors, I think in the history of ever.
	You've single-handedly propped up the hair dye industry.
	So I want to congratulate you.
	Oh, thank you so much for watching.
	On that.
	I never tried to board the hair, but I want to try someday.
	I don't know.
	One day.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm getting some fucking bullshit's going on.
	Okay, cool.
	Welcome.
	What about you?
	Oh, I'm Bailey.
	I'm 23, and I'm my BSBA from Philadelphia in Marketing and International Business.
	All right, welcome back.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Steph.
	I'm 24.
	I'm from Houston, and I'm currently going to UHD.
	And I work on a makeup store, and I'm a sub.
	You're, sorry, I'm sorry, age again?
	24.
	And you work in a room?
	Makeup store, and I'm a sub.
	Missive?
	Substitute teacher.
	Oh.
	I thought I was girl.
	I understand.
	I have a good story.
	And, all right.
	Any school or anything like that?
	I go to UHD.
	All right.
	What are you studying?
	I'm studying to be a teacher.
	Teacher, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name's Mary Grace.
	I'm from Santa Barbara.
	I have an AA in music and then a bachelor's in science, and I work in medical supervision.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Alina.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I'm originally from Russia.
	I currently live in Philadelphia, and I'm a student studying business and information systems.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Sorry, Mary, your age again?
	23.
	All right.
	Sorry, audience, for them having to repeat it.
	We have a little BS going on.
	A lot of flakes today.
	Six flakes.
	People running late.
	I had to turn some people away.
	All right.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What is everybody's current relationship status?
	And then if you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am single.
	Okay.
	And I have been in a three-year relationship that was off and on.
	And then a two-year relationship that was also off and on.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single for?
	Since like May, so however long that is.
	Last year.
	Eight months, seven months.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	And the relationship that ended eight months ago, was that the two-year, the three-year one?
	It was the two-year.
	The two-year.
	And both of them were on again, off again?
	Oh, no, I'm so sorry.
	It was a year.
	Yeah.
	It was a year ago?
	No, no, no.
	The relationship was a little bit over a year.
	It wasn't even two years.
	Like a year.
	The most recent one.
	Yes, most recent one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	So you had a one-year and a three-year?
	Yes.
	And a two-year?
	Or there was no one?
	No, no, sorry.
	It's just, we spent so much time together.
	It felt like a long time.
	But both of them were on again, off again?
	You said?
	Towards the end, yes.
	Towards the end.
	How many times for the longest one, the three-year one, how many times was it off and on?
	Oh, so many times.
	I can't.
	Over 10?
	Probably.
	20.
	No, I don't think that much.
	10 to 20.
	15?
	I don't know.
	This is 10.
	This is 10.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Who would be ending it, putting it in the off?
	Oh, I was so bad.
	I would end it, but deep down I wanted it, so that's why I would always end up going back.
	And obviously, he's for it because he wanted me.
	He's for it.
	No, he was for it.
	Like, he was for like people.
	He was apologizing.
	He would apologize, and then I would be like, no, like, I don't want your apology.
	And then.
	Wait, so he would end things with you?
	No, no, no.
	I would end things with him.
	Okay.
	And then he would apologize, and then I would like ghost, and then I would come back.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Does that not make sense?
	Yeah, no, no, sorry.
	Fucking.
	So, and then what about the other one that was also on again, off again?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And that one was twice on again, off, again.
	So for both these relationships, I guess the final breakup, who ended things in each of them?
	Was it you?
	For both?
	It was mutual.
	Mutual, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So my longest relationship I ever had was four and a half years.
	We had a great four years and a terrible half a year.
	And I'm recently single for the last two weeks, not from that relationship, from another relationship I was engaged.
	And we were together about a year and a half.
	Okay.
	So you've been single, sorry, for how long?
	Like two weeks.
	Oh, two weeks.
	Yeah, I landed in California single.
	Eight months.
	Is that your longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was four and a half years.
	No, the fiancé was not my longest relationship.
	Okay.
	Four and a half years.
	Who broke up with him and the longest one?
	Ooh, so he broke up with me.
	So we were together consistently living together for almost four years.
	And then the last six months, it was, we had had one breakup at the two-year mark, but it wasn't serious.
	It was like three days.
	I went and stayed at my mom's house and then we were back together.
	I moved in after like date one, night one.
	And we spent four years.
	Four years were great.
	And then we spent six months together where it was on again, off again, on again, off again.
	So I broke up with him.
	He broke up with me.
	I broke up with him.
	He broke up with me.
	He cheated on me.
	Okay.
	That was kind of the final straw.
	Is that the four and a half year one?
	That's the four and a half year one, yes.
	Okay.
	And then this most recent one, you were dating a red pill guy, as you called it.
	Yes, we were engaged.
	Okay.
	But you, my understanding, you don't want to share name.
	Yeah, okay.
	And so, and you were, where were you, I guess, when this all went down?
	Australia.
	Okay.
	So you moved to Australia.
	I've moved.
	So we spent a year pretty consistently traveling where we were in Europe, we were in the United States, we were all around the United States, back in Europe, Australia, Europe.
	So it ultimately ended in Australia 12 hours after I got there, yes.
	After I was, I mean, this was the final push.
	Like, I was going to have to go back home and get my pets and move them over.
	But besides that, like, I shipped, we shipped stuff to Australia.
	Yeah, this was supposed to be like we were picking a place to rent while we built a home.
	And as soon as, like, 12 hours after landing, jet lagged, tired.
	Yeah, we ended up.
	Yeah, he left.
	I spent two weeks in Australia alone.
	Was there a reason given?
	I think there's always a straw that breaks the camel's back.
	And the communication in the relationship really lacked and it was really bad.
	And then I would do like this push-pull thing where I would just like beg for like the communication and any red pill guy is going to find that annoying.
	But if you lack the ability to communicate, there's no relationship.
	So I think there was just a straw that broke a camel's back.
	There was an argument that escalated one day and that was just, that was it.
	Like there was no communication.
	So it was things piling on top of things on top of things on top of things.
	And then one day it was just done.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Yeah, fun.
	Fun times.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So.
	How long have you been?
	Are you single?
	Yes.
	Single.
	How long have you been single?
	About this year going to be three years.
	This year, three years.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Always the longest, like one, two years, almost two years.
	Yeah.
	Two years.
	How many two-year relationships have you been in?
	Like one to two.
	Let's say one to two.
	Yeah.
	How many?
	So how many?
	Four times.
	And of those four one to two year relationships, who would break up with who?
	Oh, usually I said let's break up.
	I mean, like.
	You do the breakout.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I have been for a year and a half.
	My longest relationship was one year.
	Been single for a year and a half, longest one year.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm currently in a relationship, and my longest one has been a year.
	Wow.
	Is that the current relationship?
	No.
	How long has your current relationship been?
	I'd say about 10 months now.
	10 months.
	All right.
	In your one-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	I did.
	Okay.
	Your 10-month relationship?
	How did you guys meet?
	Through church.
	Through church.
	Okay, what denomination?
	Catholic.
	Catholic.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am in a relationship thanks to you.
	That's right.
	And my longest ever relationship is not the current relationship that I'm in.
	What's that?
	My longest relationship is not the current one, but three years was the longest.
	How long have you been dating this new guy?
	I have been dating this new guy for two months.
	Two months.
	Best two months of my life.
	I owe it all to you.
	All right, nice.
	And let's see here.
	So he watches the show.
	He watches the show.
	Is he watching right now?
	I think he is.
	You know what?
	How old's the guy?
	35.
	Is he doing pretty well?
	What's he do for work?
	He is a financial officer.
	Oh.
	Wait, the chief financial?
	Chief financial.
	A CFO, correct?
	Oh.
	Well, and he's watching right now.
	Like, he knows you're coming on.
	He knows I'm coming on, and he wished me good luck.
	And he said, don't worry, you're going to do great.
	So he saw your previous appearance, slid into the DMs, and now you're dating one of my viewers.
	Yes.
	You're invited to the wedding.
	I'm invited to the wedding.
	This is a matchmaking show.
	It is.
	All these girls come on.
	I'm not actually exaggerating.
	There's been probably, we've had over something like 2,000 guests.
	I think like 100 of them have DM'd me and said, hey, I'm dating one of your viewers.
	So that's pretty wild.
	A lot of people find love.
	I mean, we had our show on Sunday.
	The boyfriend and the girlfriend came on, Mason and Alexa.
	They actually, they were both guests on the show, and they kind of met through that.
	It's the, uh, hold on, let me play something here.
	What?
	You're welcome.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	You know what, though?
	Because of my assistance, because I helped my viewer find love, I think a champagne pop is in order.
	And you know what?
	I think it should be the Crystal.
	Pull up the Crystal, Damien.
	Does he do crypto?
	He does.
	He's a crypto guy.
	Look, my Ethereum wallet, my Ethereum wallet is in the description.
	You have to send in a super chat too if you want to indicate that you're going to do the crystal Ethereum pop.
	One Ethereum, it's low right now.
	Fucking crypto's in the trash.
	Who lost money on the Trump fucking coin, by the way?
	Oh, that was rough.
	Everything else.
	The Pepe, fucked.
	But I think a little Ethereum pop, I mean, you know what I mean?
	You're making me sweat.
	Little champagne popped.
	So let's see here.
	That's cool, though.
	And what about you?
	I'm in the relationship for four years.
	It is my longest and only.
	A longest and only.
	Period.
	Sweet.
	And how often do you nag him?
	Never.
	You never nag him?
	Never.
	Have you ever slashed his tires?
	No.
	Have you ever burned any of his clothes?
	No.
	Have you ever beat him with a belt?
	No.
	Have you ever?
	Why did you pause?
	Why did you have to pause to think about that?
	It's been four years.
	It's a long time.
	So I had to think about it.
	Have you ever hit him with a frying pan?
	No.
	Have you ever fucked up his dinner?
	I've only made him the best dinners of his life.
	You didn't fuck it up once.
	I could never do that.
	Burnt the turkey or chicken or something.
	No.
	Have you ever yelled at him in Russian?
	No comment.
	Does he speak Russian?
	No.
	White guy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right, guys, that's everybody's relationship status.
	We have a chat coming through here in just a sec.
	Thank you, guys.
	Sim, thank you for the tier one.
	Rebel, thank for the prime.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's see here.
	We have.
	Oh, here we go.
	Okay, here's an interesting one coming in.
	Peter Griffin donated $200.
	Chat, would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor?
	Serious surgery.
	So basically, would you rather get a massage or die?
	Ladies, what decade was World War I?
	It's 1914 to 1918.
	Yeah.
	Period.
	We did this on Sunday.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	A little bit.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Did you guys answer the question?
	No.
	As for the risk question, I think I'd rather get a massage instead of dying.
	Yeah.
	My question is: would you rather get a massage from a gay man or serious surgery from a female doctor?
	Also, what decade was World War I?
	Well, that one's not to you guys.
	It's to the chat.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	What decade was World War I?
	It was 1914.
	Yeah.
	Geez said it.
	Oh, who's here?
	Mary.
	Totally ruined it.
	Sorry.
	Failed.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	How about you know what?
	What?
	What?
	What was the primary decade of World War II?
	I wouldn't be able to answer that.
	Guess, guess.
	50s.
	50s, okay.
	1940s.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	Just guess.
	Just guess.
	1990.
	1990.
	Okay.
	All right.
	40s.
	50s.
	It was 39 to 45, so primarily 40s.
	Yes, 1935 to 1945.
	There you go.
	When was the Korean War?
	I'm sorry.
	1945.
	Sorry, I didn't get the word that, you know, the word.
	I'm still learning English, guys.
	Sorry about that.
	So yeah, 1945.
	Yeah.
	1950.
	What the fuck?
	Why was that played?
	That's crazy.
	When was the Korean War?
	1940.
	1945.
	Oh, five.
	Don't touch the.
	Go ahead.
	No, when was it?
	625.
	June 25th.
	Wait, what?
	June 25th.
	I actually don't even know.
	1945.
	It was like 50s.
	It was the 50s, right?
	Wait.
	Korean War.
	It's a year.
	It's 1950.
	I didn't know the exact years, but I know it was the 50s.
	Yeah, 1950, 1953.
	That's cool.
	That's cool.
	That's everybody's relationship status, so that's awesome.
	We're going to get into some of the pre-show notes here.
	So why don't we do this?
	Callie, you said, wait, hold on.
	In most of your time when you've dated someone for the first time, they're taking you to dinner, then trying to.
	I'm going to just read it verbatim.
	Taking you to dinner, then trying to straight to fuck you after dinner.
	So I should have surprised that who ain't touch me for first time date in LA.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because you know, like, usually also LA culture is different.
	Yeah.
	So I learned the situationship world when I'm out here and in Korea.
	I had a good relationship with like 101.
	I prefer 101.
	I got Asian, Korean culture.
	So I always like be ready to be monogamy, you know?
	So when I was young, still like making a courier and still dating with guys, but at the same time, it's hard to make it.
	But I made it some long-term relationship though.
	But when I move out here, it was a long-term relationship.
	It's just two weeks, one month, or sometimes on and off for two years, three years, something like this.
	So I'm 33.
	I just turned 33.
	I'm ready to make my own family, but I'm struggling, yes.
	You're struggling with the dating scene.
	Yes.
	Would you, what was it, you know, dating in South Korea versus dating in the United States?
	Different?
	And do you prefer American men versus South Korean men?
	To stay, you have a type.
	Sexy, tall.
	Oh, you have a type?
	Yes.
	Okay, you describe it.
	Okay, tall.
	Tall.
	Sexy.
	Sexy.
	Athletic.
	Do they have to have a grill?
	Do they have to have a grill?
	No, hell no.
	No tattoo, please.
	No tattoo.
	No grill.
	No grill.
	Wait, so tall, sexy, have to have what?
	Like something athletic, strong?
	Yeah, something strong.
	Strong?
	Because do you work out?
	Yes.
	Okay, you want a guy who works out?
	Do you erase?
	Do you prefer white, black?
	Native American?
	I think.
	I mostly prefer like, I mean, been dating with African American, but also mixed with white.
	Oh, you want half-mixed, half-black, half-white?
	I think I have dated with, I've been, you know, kind of situation with.
	Black eye.
	Yes, but mixed with white.
	When you say mixed, though, do you mean the man is half or you date some black guys and you did some white guys?
	First one.
	First one.
	You like half.
	Yeah, half a black, half a white.
	Half white.
	About Blaisian.
	Half black, half Asian.
	Well, I never, you know, dated with the Blaisian, but I don't mind.
	It happens, it happens.
	Yeah, it's happening.
	Okay.
	Can I ask?
	You said no tattoos, but you have tattoos.
	Why is that?
	Right.
	Yeah, I know, right?
	Kind of opposite type is, you know, kind of like, I'm very lucky, but this is kind of just for, you know, style fun.
	I try to like, so I don't mind who got the tattoo, but I prefer like who cano tattoo, or that's more like, you know, I don't know.
	Just the, I don't care for the tattoo.
	Just as I'm saying it's.
	You don't like it?
	Too much.
	How tall does the you said tall, right?
	Tall.
	How tall?
	Six to six six to six two.
	Six foot to six foot two.
	Yes, please.
	Yes, please.
	Okay.
	You're so specific.
	Wait, I have a question too.
	Yes, go ahead.
	So if you want a guy that doesn't have a grill, but you have gems and he doesn't want a girl that doesn't have gems, would you take them off for him?
	Of course, no problem.
	But he, he will be understand why I have.
	Actually, like some guys don't align me have this two stem.
	So I tried the remover, but they also respect my style for business making.
	So to be honest, they understand.
	So I don't have to do, but when they mention, I can consider to remover it.
	It's easy to go.
	Okay.
	That is cool.
	So, okay, black, six foot to six foot two.
	Well, yeah, tall.
	Sexy.
	Sexy.
	Strong.
	Strong.
	Do you care about money or not really?
	Money.
	We can grind together.
	Good money?
	Yeah.
	We can grind together.
	Wait, so you moved.
	How old were you when you moved here?
	So you would have been 26?
	27.
	27.
	And so, but you were, and you had pretty much lived in South Korea your whole life up until that point, right?
	Right.
	Were you, did you date South Korean men when you were in South Korea or were you dating foreigners?
	Oh, yeah, of course I dated with this South Korean man.
	Yes.
	And also I'm Korean-American.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What city were you in?
	Seoul.
	Oh, Saul.
	Seoul.
	Okay.
	And okay.
	That's some interesting stuff there.
	I do, before I, I want to wait for, well, I guess going around the table, what is everybody else's type?
	Why don't we start there?
	Starting with Brittany.
	Oh, so I'm always going to be the first one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yep.
	My type.
	All the pressure.
	Yeah, right.
	You need it to be like goal-oriented.
	You have to have a path in mind.
	You don't have to be there, but you have to be just passionate for yourself.
	And having a routine of health is obviously really attractive.
	Like if you work out, but you don't have to be fit and muscular as long as you're consistent and you're disciplined.
	And I think it's really hot when people are study and they learn and they're open to new ideas, even if it's different from their own perspectives.
	And then in terms of any physical traits, is there anything there that you're looking for?
	So I don't think so.
	But all my friends tell me I always go for the same type of guy where it's like.
	Yeah, what's that?
	What would your friends say?
	What would they say?
	They say the awkward, awkward, either white man that's like also Hispanic and mixed, but tall, but not too tall.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	When you say tall, what are we talking about here?
	Well, not too tall, like 5'9, 5'3.
	Yeah.
	So half white, half, do you have a preference on like, are they Mexican or Puerto Rican, Dominic?
	No, Dominican.
	I guess.
	Excellent, right?
	Is Dominican?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	If I'm just talking to someone and we click or if I know you for a while and then there's just like some type of energetic connection, I'm into it.
	Sure.
	So yeah, that's okay.
	And you do a big thing that you do as a raving.
	I almost want to, let's just pull up your Instagram.
	Pull up her Instagram.
	I just went to a rave this weekend.
	I just went to a rave, so there are some recent rave.
	I'm going to send it to you, Damien, okay?
	In the private chat.
	But I am more tamed.
	The outfits that I used to wear were much worse.
	So I have a question for you on this.
	And this has come up on the show before.
	Okay.
	Do you, do you consider yourself more like traditional?
	Yes and no.
	I'm open to all ideas and perspectives.
	What about like when it comes to relationship dynamics?
	Do you prefer more 50-50?
	Do you prefer the guy leads?
	Do you prefer maybe are you more dominant?
	Are you more masculine?
	What's your preference there?
	So in the past, I actually sought out relationships where I wanted the man to be more dominant and I was willing to be more submissive.
	But then kind of like after like my last breakup, because it was so messy and I was like, all right, Brenda, we need to pause and we need to like just really figure out our values here.
	And I just came to now this new kind of like way of thinking of doesn't really matter who's taking care of who as long as like there's value on both ends and it could be 50-50.
	It could be if he needs help, I'll help him out.
	I recently paid for a man's dinner and I had no issue with it, you know.
	And but in the past, I would have never thought about that.
	I would have never wanted to do that.
	So it just depends, I guess, on where I'm at.
	And right now it's, yeah, whatever.
	Okay.
	And so how about though, like, think to your future husband.
	Do you want to get married?
	Yeah, eventually.
	You want to have kids?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you're married, you have a husband.
	Are you going to...
	So we're going to have our own empires.
	Own empires?
	Own separate empires.
	We're going to have our own separate empires and we're going to help each other and encourage each other by supporting each other and giving each other ideas.
	And if I were to have a kid, with having an empire, I would not mind putting a pause on it because I feel like if I'm making the decision to have a kid, then I will then prioritize that.
	Okay.
	Damien, pull up the Instagram.
	All right.
	So she's like, scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Keep tracking.
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Have a clothing brown.
	Wow.
	Scroll down.
	I'm trying to find like a rave photo.
	They're all rave.
	Oh, how about the one where I'm wearing the cross?
	No, no.
	I'm at a rave and I have a cross on in a rosary.
	I might have pasties on.
	I think that one's epic.
	These are so down now.
	At this point, just keep going.
	Just go to the very bottom.
	Okay, they're getting worse.
	They get worse.
	Wow.
	They get worse.
	No.
	You should cut this.
	Okay.
	They get worse.
	Were you squatting in a ravell?
	I was squatting in a rave out.
	Okay.
	So, how many raves have you been through?
	I can't tell you, but I went through an era where I was going to a rave every weekend and traveling just to go to the raves.
	I was getting paid for it, of course, but like still, it was, yeah.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Scroll back up.
	Oh, there you go.
	There you go.
	Wait, no, go down, go down, go down.
	Yeah, bye bye, right.
	The 0.5 angle.
	Down, down, down.
	Keep going, keep going.
	Oh, God.
	It just never stops.
	No, no.
	Okay, yeah, this keeps going.
	Well, I've been doing this for about three years now.
	This is my job.
	I made it my job.
	Up, up, no, down, down, down.
	Just go down.
	I remember seeing one video.
	Keep going, keep going.
	Down, down, down, down.
	There's one video in particular where I was like.
	What is it?
	Like, describe it.
	I probably know what it is.
	I don't recall, to be honest.
	If I see it, I'll know it.
	I'll know it when I see it, but at this point, that's what, okay.
	Some raves.
	All right, cool.
	This is when I first got into it.
	So now, at this point, now I'm just an attendee.
	I'm not working here.
	Now, okay, now we're going.
	I'm going to attend.
	I'm in college, college era, working college era.
	So question for you.
	Point blank.
	Yes.
	You're dating a guy.
	You love him.
	This could be the one.
	You've only been dating for three months, though, but you're like, this is the guy.
	And he's like, now that you guys are serious, now you're in a relationship.
	He's like, yo, I don't want you going to raves anymore.
	It's over.
	Do you say yes?
	Or is it the end of the relationship?
	Well, that would never happen.
	We would have never met.
	What do you mean?
	You could have met in the library.
	What are you talking about?
	We wouldn't have aligned.
	We wouldn't have connected.
	What do you mean?
	Did you go shopping at Trader Joe's?
	He could have hit you up at Trader Joe's.
	No, I do Instacart Uber Eats.
	I only go to the corner.
	He's the Instacart guy.
	He's the fucking Instacart guy.
	I don't know him, so I would never connect with him.
	I would never connect with anyone.
	He's so hot, he's dropping off your Chia seeds from Glasgow.
	He's dropping off some fucking Chia seeds.
	I'll flirt.
	He's the one.
	He's the one.
	He's doing Instacart.
	He's fucking grinding.
	And then he hits a fucking pump on some crypto, and now he's rich.
	And he's like, I'm taking care of you.
	Fuck this rave shit.
	Fuck this work shit.
	I got you.
	I'm holding it down.
	No.
	But you can't be doing this rave shit.
	This is my empire that I'm building.
	You're going to be wearing it.
	I have two companies because of it.
	So I would never.
	No, he's in the billions.
	Fuck that shit.
	You don't got to work another day in your life.
	I want to work up there.
	He wants to pump out seven kids with you.
	Oh, I'm good.
	I'm good.
	You're good?
	I'm good on that.
	That's a real dynasty is seven kids.
	Not I have two businesses.
	No, that's the dynasty.
	For me, my dynasty or just, I care about my goals.
	And that's where I'm at right now.
	So you could have whatever the fuck you have and I will support you.
	Good for you.
	But it's like, I don't chase that.
	I used to.
	I would have said yes.
	Fuck it.
	I don't want to work a day of my life.
	Let's do it.
	But I just.
	And so your business is, it's like rave related?
	It's for the EDM community.
	So it's like, yeah, like rave-related.
	But so you're, this is the love of your life.
	Love of your life.
	We would have never met.
	You could meet him some other way.
	I don't think so.
	You could meet him some other way.
	Can I ask a question?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So you said that you wouldn't stop going to raves for him, but what if the same scenario, like he's, he's fine.
	I never said that.
	I said we would have never met.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So you meet this guy and he's great.
	You meet him at a rave and he's wonderful, fantastic.
	You guys really hit it off.
	And he says, babe, I want this Instagram down.
	Like I want these posts down.
	Like we can still go to raves together.
	You just can't post photos like this.
	I want them deleted.
	If we're going to have a kid together in the future, if we're going to have a future and you want me to take you seriously, you have to delete these photos.
	Would you take them off of Instagram?
	So that's an interesting question.
	And I see where your head is at with that question.
	But because this is my job, I don't just go to raves just to rave.
	I go to raves because this is how I'm going to make my living.
	And if I meet someone at the rave and they decide, okay, I don't like your Instagram.
	I don't like the way that you're posting.
	And we are at like a situation, at a point of our relationship where I do like them and I do see a future.
	I do see like value on both ends.
	Then I will consider changing what I wear.
	I will consider changing what I post.
	But ultimately, if it doesn't impact the growth of my business, then yeah, I'll consider.
	But again, it's not about the raving.
	It's about, I enjoy the music, I love the culture, and I'm grateful for it.
	You can still go and you can post like stories with the rave and the story, and you can post photos from like waist up.
	But he says, I want the photos of your ass off of Instagram.
	Cool.
	Would you take them down?
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, that was the question.
	Yeah.
	Would you stop raving?
	No.
	Well, no, because so she had to ask if we had met at a rave and then he was like, We could still go to raves together, but you have to take your photos down.
	But in that hypothetical, if we met at a rave, why would he want to stop raving?
	Let's say he, this is the first time he's ever been to a rave and he's there in an employment context.
	Because you're really stuck on, I would have never, so you're saying absent you going to raves, you never meet men?
	Well, so when I am at a festival, I am in a mode where I am talking and I am connecting with people.
	And I honestly just spend a lot of time alone or with my friends that I already have connections with.
	So I don't really connect with anyone other than when I'm working at these like public events.
	Okay.
	And so I'm going to go ahead and chime in.
	So on your Instagram, you have gym posts.
	You're saying that you don't really go out besides raving, but you have gym posts.
	Let's say a guy comes up to you at the gym, hits on you, and y'all hit it off.
	Would you like still keep going to the gym?
	I mean, sorry, keep going raving.
	I mean, maybe I'll just keep it like of us working out at the gym if he doesn't like raving, and I wouldn't further the relationship with him.
	So I'm not familiar with raves.
	I've never been to one.
	I just know people, like, I know people who have been to raves.
	Yeah.
	They're notorious for being very druggy, alcohol-y kind of events.
	So when a child, you meet a guy, he's great, and you guys hit it off, and he wants to have a baby with you.
	Are you like leaving the baby at home with a babysitter to go to a rave and get messed up?
	I'm not saying that you do ecstasy.
	I'm just saying it comes with the territory or any kind of drug.
	Yeah, of course.
	Are you leaving this baby home with a babysitter to like go raving when you're 30, 35?
	So I'm currently 24 and I do not plan to.
	I mean, if it happens, it happens, but I am setting it for what I'm like in 10 years from now.
	And at that time, I have a kid.
	There is one thing to say, actually, that not all ravers take substances.
	Oh, wait, you have a kid?
	No, She gave me a hypothetical that I have a kid.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That, and I was just like giving some context.
	So, not all ravers take substances.
	A lot of people are there for the music, but the culture is big and it does exist.
	And when you do get into raving, that is the first thing that you hit because that's just like what raving is known for.
	And I feel like a lot of people do fall into a cycle, and a lot of people do end up coming out of it because they genuinely love the music.
	That being said, I am in that phase where I generally just love the music and I don't take anything anymore.
	So, if I have a kid and my kid is already at an age where they don't need me to be there, and me and my significant other want to go to a show because whatever we're gonna go, maybe, but um, it's not to get fucked up or it's not to just like you know, it's just to spend time with each other.
	And maybe we haven't gone out for about a year.
	We want to go to a broader world.
	Do you think you'll still enjoy raving when you're 40 and you're married with children?
	Or do you think that because you're you're kind of like I don't know you, so I'm not saying it's your entire personality, but you're saying it's your job and that's what you're trying to do with your life is make a career out of raving.
	But do you see yourself at 40 or 50 years old still like doing this?
	No, I no.
	No, I don't see myself like hardcore raver.
	So then it's not a career?
	Well, I have an entertainment company where we have a podcast in the scene and we have artists that come onto our podcast.
	So no matter what, we're going to be passing down the reins.
	And so the career has nothing to do with actually going to raves, like you said earlier.
	That's just the market.
	The market that we're in is the EDM dance scene.
	So they're ravers.
	And I'm a raver.
	I was a hardcore raper.
	Here, look, I'll just ask the question again.
	So it's, okay.
	I think we're kind of avoiding the question by saying, well, in this hypothetical scenario, I would just never meet this guy.
	In this hypothetical scenario, we're going to go ahead and grant that you did meet this guy.
	He's not in the rave scene, whatever.
	He's the love of your life.
	We have to grant it.
	He says, I want you to stop raving.
	Do you stop raving?
	Well, then you would have to define what you want to do.
	What do I mean by stop?
	No, what do you mean by raving?
	What is your perspective on raving?
	Like, what is it that if I were to go to a rave, what am I doing that you want me to do?
	No music festivals, no raves.
	Buying a ticket and entering the business.
	It doesn't matter what your purpose is there, can't go to them.
	That's what he wants.
	Do you do it?
	If in that moment, me going to a rave has nothing to do with what I'm currently doing for work, then I'll consider.
	But if it's going to impact my bank account, then I will not consider.
	He makes a million dollars a year.
	I don't care.
	I want my own money.
	What do you mean your own money?
	I don't understand that.
	Like, I want my own money.
	Sure, sure.
	Let me, I have a question on this.
	So, do you mind me asking, like, how much money you make right now?
	Yeah, I don't want to put that on the bus.
	Six figures?
	You want to do a range?
	I don't want to put that on the internet.
	Okay.
	Let's say your husband makes double what you make.
	And he'll, whatever point in life, however much money you would make in that point in life, he'll be earning double it at any given point.
	So he makes what you make, and then he basically makes what you're making anyways.
	He says, I want you to stop working.
	You guys are married.
	You're still generating the exact same amount of money that you would generate.
	Do you stop working?
	Well, legally, I can't do that because one company that I have, I have it with three other.
	Legally?
	Because I have a company with three other people.
	So if I just stop, then it would be a whole shit show.
	So I can't just completely stop.
	What do you mean?
	What are you talking about?
	So I, me and three.
	I want to buy out my shares.
	Problem solved.
	Well, then that's just the me problem of not wanting to do that.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	Like, I just, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't do that.
	Like, that's my baby.
	And I wouldn't.
	What's your baby?
	What is it?
	What's the business?
	An entertainment company.
	Entertainment.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a podcast.
	What do you guys do?
	It's a podcast.
	Medium podcast.
	And it's.
	Okay, yeah.
	And in this moment, I love it.
	And it's my baby.
	So it's hard for me to think about letting it go.
	Okay.
	It might change.
	It might change.
	So just to be clear, like, let me ask you this.
	Between having your podcast and your business and making your own money, if like, here's the two trade-offs.
	Husband, children, or rave podcast and your business and being a boss babe and making your own money.
	Which do you pick?
	If you have to pick one.
	In this moment.
	You have to pick one.
	In this moment, if it was today and I had to pick one, it would be a bit more.
	But for life.
	For life.
	It's all situational.
	I feel like we might.
	I just explained this.
	No, like my mindset will change.
	I can't put.
	This is what I can't do.
	The situation is right now.
	Right.
	Oh, yeah, right now I would keep what I'm doing.
	I wouldn't have a kid right now.
	No, but so the entailment is, if you pick right now, here, your podcast is going to be insanely successful.
	You're going to have the most popular raving podcast ever.
	You're going to be making a million dollars a year doing it.
	But that's it.
	That's your business for life, and you're going to be single for the rest of it.
	And I have a clothing brand too.
	Okay, your clothing brand does good too.
	Or, or, and you have to select, you have a crossroads, and you can't, there's no going back, or husband children.
	Which do you pick?
	In this moment, I am picking what I'm currently doing.
	Okay, so, but the entailment of that is that you die single and alone.
	Oh, okay, I see what you mean.
	Die single and alone.
	Well, I love myself so that I will be okay with that.
	You'd be okay dying single and alone?
	I will have friends.
	I still have friends, right?
	Sure.
	You can have a moment.
	Okay, then that's all I need.
	Yes, those are relationships.
	You can have friends.
	That's all I need.
	But they're going to get married and have kids, and they're probably by the time they're in their mid-30s, they're probably not your, well, I mean, can I still like flirt with people and like, you know what?
	I'm going to limit you.
	I'm limiting you to three-month situationship.
	That's it.
	I'm cool with that.
	You get three-month situationship.
	Cool, new experience.
	Let's just do it.
	And then they're gone.
	Cool, okay.
	New experiences.
	All right.
	I come from a place of attachment with love.
	So I feel like with that in mind, I will be okay with that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	And so I guess my question is, though.
	Do you like working?
	Like, do you enjoy it?
	Now I do.
	If you weren't making any money, though, would you do it?
	Yeah.
	You would still do it.
	Okay.
	I was fucking eating chicken.
	Because I was thinking about this the other day.
	I was thinking about this the other day.
	It's like women, when it comes to like, if you meet a guy who's capable of saying, hey, I want you to stay at home, he's a high earner.
	And he's like, just stay at home.
	You don't have to work.
	Take care of the kids.
	Take care of me.
	Take care of the family.
	And I was thinking like a lot of women would say no to that.
	But then I was thinking, what if an employer came and said, I'm going to pay you $100,000 to do exactly what your husband wants you to do in the home?
	Obviously, mine, like, not sex or anything, but like an employer comes and says, okay, we want you to take care of this household and you're going to be a nanny and you're going to raise these kids and we're going to pay you $100,000 a year.
	And I was thinking like, it's interesting to me that women would take the $100,000 a year job.
	I wouldn't.
	Well, because that's not what I want to do.
	That's not what fulfills me.
	So I'm not going to go do that.
	I'm not going to go clean a house.
	If someone, if that fulfills you, then hell yeah, go off.
	Go off.
	But like, that's not me.
	So I wouldn't, I would want to make the money in the field that makes me happy.
	Let me ask you this then.
	Let's say you already have kids, and then there's some circumstance where you need to stop working.
	It's either your kids or your job.
	Kids, if I made the decisions with my kids, yeah.
	We have a new guest who just joined us.
	Welcome, welcome.
	Here's what I'm going to have you do.
	I'm going to have you scoot into the table.
	And if you can, scoot your microphone that way, okay?
	This one?
	Scoot it, scoot it, push it.
	Nope.
	That way.
	Which one?
	Forward.
	Can somebody help her, please?
	Forward.
	Yeah.
	Ah.
	Yeah.
	So tell us your name, age, occupation, location.
	Hi, my name is Ivy.
	I'm 24.
	Sorry.
	I'm 24.
	And I used to be a public school teacher in Oakland.
	And now I'm currently transitioning to marketing and social media.
	So yeah, that's my name, age, occupation.
	All right.
	And where are you from?
	I'm from the 626.
	Or like San Gabriel Valley.
	SGV.
	Yeah, SGV.
	SGV.
	Okay.
	And any education, college, university?
	Yeah, I graduated from UCSD.
	Oh, San Diego.
	Okay.
	Nice.
	And what was your major?
	I majored in literature and political science.
	Du double major?
	Oh, sorry.
	Literature, international literature, and then minor in politics.
	Minor science.
	Yeah.
	Political science.
	Okay.
	And let's see.
	UC San Diego.
	Were you in a sorority?
	No, I had no social life.
	No social life.
	UCSD is pretty good party school.
	I've never been to any parties at UCSD.
	You never went to any, what's that?
	Not really.
	Oh, yeah, it's like called UC Socially Dead.
	Or is it San Diego State?
	I think it's SDSD.
	San Diego State.
	I mean, but they're, well, whatever.
	Okay, cool.
	And what's your relationship status?
	Right now, I'm single.
	Okay, single.
	How long have you been single for?
	Right now, it feels like it's a long time, but I think it's just been 2023, so two years.
	Yeah.
	Two years?
	All right.
	So it is a long time.
	And then what's the longest relationship that you've been in?
	Two years.
	Two years.
	And is that the one that ended two years ago?
	No, that was it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	When was the two-year relationship?
	I've been in like, I think like three, no, two two-year relationships.
	Okay.
	And so that was a long time ago, like right before COVID.
	So like high school?
	No.
	High school one, and then college when I was at UCSD one.
	So those were both two years, and then the other ones after that were just one year.
	Okay.
	The one that ended two years ago, how long was that one?
	The one that ended a little bit less.
	We knew each other for exactly one year, but maybe we were dating for like six months.
	Six months.
	Okay.
	And of the two two-year relationships, who broke up with who?
	I think it was like the first one was me.
	I broke up with the first one to date the second one.
	And so the second one broke up with me to go to the military.
	Yeah, because he was Korean, so he had to go to the military service.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	And let's see.
	And the most recent relationship that ended two years ago, who broke up with who?
	He broke up with me.
	Okay, why?
	It was a tough decision, but maybe it was about, I think I'm like a little bit high maintenance when it comes to relationships.
	And at first, he was like really gung-ho about it.
	But over time, I think I probably exhausted him.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Rock and roll.
	And so everybody here is single except for Alina and Mary.
	And Steph.
	Yeah, I'm.
	Oh, and Steph.
	Sorry.
	Wait.
	Oh, that's right.
	My R looked like an S somehow.
	Not sure.
	Okay.
	So single, What does that actually mean, though, to be single?
	So eight months, two weeks, three, what was it?
	Three years you've been single?
	Three months?
	I don't know.
	Three years?
	Three years.
	You've been single for two years, one and a half.
	Is there currently a guy in the picture?
	As of recently, yeah.
	But like, he's not like a guy in the picture.
	He's just someone who I had the first interest in in a long time.
	And I was like, fuck it.
	So I asked him out.
	Okay.
	Before I have you answer, I'm going to let the chat come through.
	Old man Maureen donated $200.
	Thank you, Brian, for helping me get my balls back after a horrible marriage.
	I have a new girlfriend now and she's expecting the old man daddy soon.
	Oh, shit.
	Have a great show.
	Keep fighting against feminism.
	Oh, thank you, Marie.
	Appreciate it.
	Congratulations on the kid, man.
	That's awesome.
	That's awesome, man.
	Congrats.
	Al777 donated $199.
	This chick is a gingerly and the most delusional I have ever seen on your show.
	Also, that Asian chick from Sunday about the Serbian guy was totally lying and crying fake tears.
	These chicks crazy.
	Any responses from any of the panelists on this one?
	Ginger hair?
	That's.
	I don't.
	Do you know what Jacobi?
	She has reddish hair.
	I don't know who.
	Does that make sense?
	I think you need to donate again and specify for it.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Well, 777, I do appreciate it, man.
	And then we have here and why not?
	Meet the Kaiser.
	Thank you, man.
	Brian, how are you, man?
	Very happy to hear.
	C6, Chair Six, found love here.
	As much fun as it is to watch Andrew Square up at the Feminist people sometimes forget this is first and foremost a dating podcast.
	Congratulations to you.
	You want to say anything?
	Where's the champagne pod?
	You also have your boyfriend.
	You know what?
	I don't know if he might call him right now.
	Give me my phone, I will.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, we can't have it on you.
	It's technically a felony to record somebody's conversation, but text them.
	Text them.
	Yo, give her phone.
	Do you have her phone?
	What's your phone look like?
	It's pink.
	All right.
	No, the other, that one.
	All right, here, just pass it to me over here.
	All right.
	We're going to peer pressure him.
	We're going to bully him.
	So what are we, should I text him?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, text him.
	Be like, Brian is demanding.
	Okay.
	Brian is demanding a champagne.
	Oh, no.
	I don't like him spending money on me, to be quite honest.
	He's not spending money on you.
	He's spending it on Brian.
	Yeah, he owes me a favor, you know?
	He owes me a song.
	Oh, my God.
	I got you guys linked up.
	I'm a matchmaker over here.
	That's actually my fee.
	I forgot to tell him my fee.
	It's one Ethereum.
	So here's the story, though.
	Any men watching who want to date any of these women, it's one Ethereum.
	We had rather have flowers.
	Technically, but what?
	Wouldn't you rather have flowers?
	Huh?
	Flowers?
	Not roses that are orange.
	What's his favorite flower?
	Dandy Lions.
	Dandy Lyons.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	She brought me flowers as a gift.
	I was watching the podcast a couple weeks ago, and he seemed so upset that nobody ever brought him flowers.
	He's very upset.
	Yeah, so as a thank you for having me on the show, I brought Brian flowers.
	Look at that.
	She actually brought me all of them.
	But are you going to give them to another girl tomorrow?
	You said that on the podcast a couple weeks ago.
	I'm giving them to Damien, my producer.
	That's so sweet.
	And then he's going to give them to hit to whatever it is.
	Okay, cool.
	Oh, just put it back there.
	Thank you, though.
	Appreciate it.
	That's very nice.
	Very nice.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay.
	Where were we?
	We were talking about stuff, relationships.
	podcast something you're asking what yes we started going around like with our types and we also started going around with what a single mean Oh, yes.
	Are you actually involved?
	How long have you been seeing this guy?
	I've known him for about a year, but it's been on two dates.
	Three dates.
	Three dates.
	Do you have a roster?
	So my version of a roster is I don't sleep with all of them, but there are, well, I only ever sleep with one person at the same time.
	I would never do more than that.
	But it doesn't mean that I'm not open to talking to new people.
	So my roster has maybe like four guys that I could just say hi to, like text, hey, you want to go work out?
	Yeah.
	And you've dated, you're dating them all, though.
	I wouldn't say a workout's a date.
	Well, how?
	I'm hanging out.
	But the potential.
	So that's the thing.
	They're potential lovers.
	Potential lovers.
	Potential lovers.
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	And so you have a roster of four, and then one, and then there's like the main hoe.
	You have a main hoe.
	I don't have it.
	It's not a main hoe.
	It's a main piece.
	The main piece.
	Wait, this sounds so bad.
	It's just the one person that I'm actually investing more time and opening myself up more to, being more vulnerable with.
	Got it.
	And have you guys had carnal knowledge?
	I asked him out and I, yeah.
	You asked him out?
	Yeah.
	Wait, what do you mean you asked him like you?
	Like, like, like, yes.
	That question, sorry, that question is too much on the internet.
	Wait, when you say like you guys are exclusive?
	No, Sorry.
	That was just my brain.
	Whenever.
	Sorry, that wasn't.
	That's okay.
	Wait, so you asked him, like, you want, are you boyfriend, girlfriend?
	No, no, no, no.
	Like, I asked him on a date.
	Oh, when I'm talking carnal knowledge.
	No, I know what you mean.
	And again, that was just my brain.
	I don't want to put that on.
	I don't know.
	It's just weird to say.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Do the other three or four guys that you're seeing know that you're fucking another dude?
	I don't know how else to say it.
	Yeah, well, like, it's not really like their place to judge.
	Like, we're not.
	But do they know?
	Regardless of judgment, do they know?
	It's just not their need to know.
	So it's not their place to know.
	It's not their place to know.
	I would want to know.
	But if I'm not fucking you, then why do you care?
	Well, I don't date women who are fucking other men.
	What?
	Then, well, then there you go.
	Yeah, but that's why I want to know, so I don't take a girl out on a date who fucked a guy the night before.
	Well, okay, but I would never let a guy take me out.
	So these.
	But you said you go on gym dates or whatever.
	Yeah, because I just text them, hey, you want to go work out?
	Or they text, hey, you want to go work out?
	It's just hanging out with a guy who that could be a potential lover.
	Potential lover.
	So, but then, in addition to the guys who you're going on these like dates with, but you're not hooking up with them, what about the guy who you are hooking up with?
	And he's like, oh, what the fuck?
	She's going on dates with other dudes.
	But I'm not fucking them.
	No, you said you were fucking.
	No, I'm not fucking them.
	I'm not fucking you.
	No, you're fucking a singular man.
	Yeah.
	One guy.
	Sure.
	But he might feel a type of way like, oh, she's dating other dudes.
	And I was inside of her yesterday.
	I don't know how I feel about this.
	Then bye.
	Really?
	Damn, cool.
	Heartless.
	Well, yeah, like, we're not exclusive.
	Because once I'm exclusive, we're exclusive.
	So if we're not, then it's like.
	Do you think most guys would not care about that?
	I don't know.
	If you were sleeping with somebody else and also going out with them, do you think most of them would not care?
	Or most of them would care?
	I'm not sure.
	Keep it.
	Damien.
	Yeah, I honestly haven't really, I guess, quote-unquote dated to really know that.
	I've always just been in relationships.
	So this is like my first time ever single and on my own.
	Do you think that a guy would want to take you seriously if you're not taking him seriously?
	Because if you're not, like, even if you guys aren't exclusive, if you're dating other guys, like, how serious could you be about him?
	Well, yeah.
	So, like, the energy that I put out is the energy that I receive.
	So if I'm putting out the energy and intention that I don't want anything serious, then I, of course, expect the same energy back.
	I'm not looking for a boyfriend.
	So you're just having fun?
	You're just...
	I'm just enjoying life.
	Like, I, yeah.
	Okay.
	So this energy that you give out, don't you think it should be like vice versa?
	Yeah.
	So I'm not saying it's wrong what you're doing, but don't you think it's like, I know it's not their need to know, but let's say one of those four guys wants to take you serious.
	I know you don't want anything with them, but don't you think they should know as a form of like respect as just a person?
	Because if I was in your situation and I was a girl and a guy that I was fucking, but I wanted to be serious with, I found out that he's talking to four other girls, I would be hurt and I would want to know because I wouldn't want to waste my time.
	Especially if it's just like, even if it's just going to the gym, I wouldn't want to waste my time when I could be getting to know someone that I could actually have a future with.
	Yeah, 100%.
	That's a beautiful question because I totally hear that.
	And that's the beauty of communication.
	You know, like once someone actually communicates that, okay, we're starting to see each other more and I'm having a more bigger interest in you or whatever.
	And then we would talk and we would communicate and that's between us and then yeah.
	But of course I would never lie.
	If someone like I'm open book.
	You want to ask me a question, ask me a question and I'll answer.
	And then yeah.
	Oh, so they don't know until they ask you.
	Yeah, and that's like vice versa.
	Like I'm not gonna, if I don't wanna know something or I don't feel the need to, no, I'm not gonna ask.
	And if I want to know, then I'm gonna ask.
	And that's the beauty of communication.
	What is the threshold where you view a situation reaching something serious where you do need to have that discussion of what's the expectation between your dynamic?
	I honestly don't know because I've, this is, again, like dating is like new for me.
	Or like this is the way that I'm dating is like, is the way that dating was able to like make sense with my lifestyle.
	And it's new for me.
	So I don't know.
	Okay.
	I guess moving on, you've been single for two weeks.
	Do you have, have you had a rebound yet?
	No.
	I'm a serial, like long-term relationship type person.
	options but i'm not i think i always believe in taking time to heal yourself and figure your i don't i don't think that it's i don't think it ever turns out well when you immediately jump into another relationship without working on yourself and healing yourself first I think that you just take, listen, am I sad on some level?
	Of course I am.
	Am I on some level also relieved?
	Yes, I am.
	But that being said, I don't, anybody that gets into a relationship right after they've left somebody else, I don't care what they say.
	They're still like a week after that person, you're still thinking about that person.
	Two weeks after that person, you're still thinking about that person.
	And a month after that person, you're still thinking about that person.
	So I don't think it's right to enter into another relationship and start trying to learn somebody else when you're still thinking about ex whoever.
	So options, yes.
	Rebounds, no.
	Boyfriends, no.
	I usually try to give it like at least three to six months.
	And I don't, I don't enter a sexual relationship until like it's exclusive.
	If there's no exclusivity, it's not.
	It's not happening.
	So you, how long do you typically wait?
	Like, what if the guy's like, I'm not dating anybody, anybody else?
	This is the first date.
	Let's be exclusive.
	Like, will you smash right away?
	No.
	Second date?
	Maybe.
	I mean, I was with the ex-feoncé on the first, like, night one, and it was, like, but he was just.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	The first night.
	Yeah.
	I thought you needed exclusive.
	So I had seen his content and he was basically like, if you want a girl to take you seriously, like, she has to be just my instrument.
	After the first date, my Instagram was down.
	And he, this was just like fun and giggles to him.
	But after date one, my Instagram was down.
	Like, I was borderline getting ready to quit my job.
	I was, anything he wanted, I would have given him.
	So, I mean, he was just like an extraordinary circumstance.
	But I wanted him to take me seriously.
	And I knew that like my time with him in the United States before he bounced to wherever he was going next was like this.
	We spent a whole week together after like it was night one and then we spent like five days together It was our first encounter, but I wouldn't that's not like my norm got it.
	Okay, and um Wait, so how about before that though?
	So before that the first boyfriend I ever had in my life Going back to types like my friends have this joke that I strictly only date balding men in their mid-30s They all look pretty yes So the first boyfriend that I ever had, we were together, like the first person I'd ever been with.
	We were together probably like three months before we felt there was any type of like sex.
	And then the next boyfriend, the long-term, the four and a half year one.
	We were together.
	It must have been two, three dates.
	Was your uh fiancé?
	Was he loyal to you?
	Like did he tell me he was loyal?
	Or what do I think you said it was like a red pill guy, I don't know who, but like isn't it uh the case?
	Like closed on the woman's end, open on the guy's end?
	I think, like you can't fuck other dudes, he can fuck other dudes, no other chicks.
	I think that I chose to be proactively oblivious in the relationship a lot of the time so he could.
	I think he was just telling me what I wanted to hear.
	Do I think that he was sleeping around absolutely like, especially just knowing his?
	Completely, completely okay, but there is something that's like if I'm not gonna leave the relationship so I can have these insecurities, but if I'm gonna sit there and harp on it over and over and over again, he's just gonna lie anyway.
	So I'd either exit the relationship, like if you're still following girls on Instagram every day and I see, like these Instahos that you're following, I assume, like there's, you're not following them because you want to see what they're up to this weekend.
	There's intent.
	So okay, what about you?
	Do you uh, you got?
	Is there a guy in the picture, a half white, half black tall, sexy African man who's tall?
	Oh actually, he's my crush.
	You have a crush?
	Yeah, I have a crush.
	Have you guys met in person?
	Yeah so after so, after my ex, about three years ago, I met him through the hinge, the dating.
	Yeah, so cute.
	So um, so he's four years older than me and in Korea we have the culture, who do you bow?
	Do you bow to him because he's older?
	He's your elder, she's bow.
	Do you bow down?
	Oh bow oh yes yeah, why not?
	Yeah yeah, I was a little nervous to talk about this little.
	So he's, he's.
	Is he a half white, half black guy?
	Right, so he's actually.
	Yes yes, no more information.
	So any, so you're dating him.
	Uh kinda, I would just say the situation ship In positive way.
	Wait, say that again.
	So, actually, situationship is a negative word.
	Kind of like people don't want to say, I'm in a situationship, you know?
	So, you're in a situationship?
	In positive way.
	With him.
	Yes.
	So, how long have you been seeing him?
	Oh, three years.
	What?
	Wait, hold on, you said you've been single for, what did you say?
	But you've been, you've been, when's the last?
	Hold on.
	Situationship.
	Hold on.
	When is the last time you saw him?
	Oh, it's about one week ago.
	A week ago?
	Did you guys have sex?
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	And you've been seeing him for three years, but you've been single for three years?
	Yes.
	Sounds like you're dating the guy.
	No, kind of like.
	So.
	He's actually not American.
	He's sexually not American.
	Oh, not American.
	Not American.
	Actually, he's married.
	Where's American?
	Where's he from?
	So, too much information, my mother.
	Yeah, yeah, too much.
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay, you said you.
	He's Canadian.
	Jamaican.
	UK, Jamaican.
	Mr. UK, Jamaican.
	I know.
	Say it one more time.
	One more time.
	I think everybody missed it.
	UK, Jamaican?
	Yes.
	Jame UKN.
	Jame UKN.
	I like that.
	Okay.
	So he's Jamaican.
	Alright, that's cool.
	And so you've been in a three-year situationship with the Jameya Jaeken.
	For three years.
	I love that.
	And so during that three-year period, were you dating other guys the past three years?
	Oh, I mean, so it's a situation like.
	Do you want a relationship with him?
	I would, but not ready for.
	You're not ready or he's not ready?
	We both.
	Both.
	Why aren't you ready?
	Oh, we were talking a lot, so we so when I started some relationship with him, it was missed the timing.
	Oh, wait.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, I meant the girl in chair number one is a unicorn and is the delusional one not gingerly autocorrect.
	Oh, that auto-corrected a word.
	Unicorn, it was not unicorn.
	777, he dropped the redacted word.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Sorry, keep going.
	Keep going.
	Go ahead.
	So what is that?
	So after I broke up with my ex, I tried to start another serious relationship, but kind of also I tried to look it up on other men's also, not only him.
	So I missed to focus on him and I tried to date with the Marti Prugai also to be honest.
	But after doing this for after a year, we were talking more like how we are serious, but we cannot make, we cannot build up for now the serious relationship.
	So we've been just like try to make some happen, like to see, more, share some moment, but not like seriously so far, but who knows for the future.
	Do you want kids?
	Of course, two or three.
	Two or three?
	Do you want it with him?
	I'm really interested to know, right?
	Like, why is it that people think that they can't have a relationship?
	I feel like if you guys love each other, then like, what's the problem?
	I think I'm a Korean.
	I still figuring out my accent?
	Yeah, something like, you know, still learning, still need the.
	Don't know something like so kind of like here also figuring out his status like I don't want to say immigration.
	Yes, more serious something paperwork they first should do it as a non-American.
	So we are we both are doing it and so that's why like yes so many reasons it's complicated.
	But yeah, anyway.
	But you guys can just do those problems together.
	Like you can just like do life together.
	Like three years is quite a while.
	Actually I was also not good one month for him.
	I like to party with the girls.
	I like to go out and when yes.
	You're not a good woman for him.
	So did you really like him?
	Wait, but hold on.
	When you say you're not a good woman for him, in what ways were you not a good woman?
	Like the part.
	Okay, so partying, what else?
	I think he's a UK guy, so I heard that UK, he don't want to say, don't do it.
	Don't do it.
	Just so he wants to see it, how I'm moving.
	I don't know how to do it.
	Yeah, how I'm acting.
	Yeah.
	He doesn't want to have to tell you what you should do.
	You should just do it.
	But like, you can have fun.
	I don't get it.
	Did you want him to tell you like you can't do this?
	Like, did you want that?
	Don't do this.
	Don't go here.
	Like, did you want to be told what to do?
	Because it seems like you knew what you were doing, like, was not good for the relationship.
	I think I used to do day-to-day with who is insecure, who is trying to lash on me, this on me.
	But this guy is older enough.
	I think 38.
	This year going to 38, and I'm 33, 37.
	Oh, you look young.
	Thank you, baby.
	Wow.
	Anyway, 33, 37.
	So that's why, like, we try to like, also, I don't like, also, like, I don't want to talk about what I don't like about his some point of his life, but I cannot say also, like, don't do it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So just we try to be patient to each other, but try to talk be honest.
	Okay.
	Well, hold on.
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	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	We're going to get that back up.
	Not too late, guys.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	So going to you, Ivy.
	Oh, wait.
	Can I ask one more question there?
	I'm curious.
	Like, your dating history sounds really cool.
	Have you ever tried dating a green guy?
	Oh, I tried it, but kinda attractive with more sexist one.
	Wait, what?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Korean guys are sexy.
	But kind of look too pretty for me.
	Pretty boys.
	Yeah, too pretty for me.
	I like, ugh, wife.
	I love that.
	Sep is five, seven.
	So it's just a look thing.
	How about personality and like mannerisms?
	First thing is a visual and the second thing mind.
	But yeah, and attractive any vision thing.
	Yeah, visually, yeah.
	So how is it different like dating like a Korean guy versus like the guys that you date now, like mentally, like mindset-wise over the course?
	I wish I had the Korean guy who is like my crush, you know, then um because when we have a conversation, of course, I have a language barrier.
	He need more patience with me.
	I should sometimes he using something word word, then I don't understand.
	I should look it up.
	So kind of miss the conversation sometimes.
	So I wish, but culture doesn't matter.
	Yes.
	I would say like going off of that, like the language barrier part, like there was one point in my life when I was like a college student and I was working full-time at a Korean restaurant and I started dating the chef there.
	And it's funny, yesterday he just posted that he's getting married.
	But that chef, the reason why I mentioned him is because he actually did not speak any English and I didn't speak any Korean.
	And so there was like a language barrier, but we dated for like more than a year.
	Yes, language barrier doesn't matter.
	So okay, anyways, so you've been single for how long, Ivy?
	Oh, I've been single for like two years now.
	Two years?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Have you been, but in that two-year period, have you dated any guys?
	In that two, oh, like going on dates, yes.
	Like about situationships?
	Have sneaky links?
	Actually, no, no, no situationships or anything.
	I've been traveling the past two years, so I've been like traveling around bouncing in different countries.
	100% like single, no dudes, two years.
	Like it's like sometimes if I meet some guy, it's then you know, we like each other, then I'm like, yeah, we'll go on a date.
	But it never really goes beyond like two dates.
	Wait, so have you been celibate for two years?
	I was celibate for one year and I just broke it last October.
	Yeah.
	And it's so funny.
	It was, oh, can I say this?
	Yeah, you can say it.
	No, you're good.
	It's the whatever podcast.
	You can say whatever.
	Oh, shoot.
	Oh, shoot.
	But I like broke my celibacy with this guy that I met through my ex.
	And so it was pretty bad.
	Yeah.
	It was like.
	And that was October.
	But you lived back in October.
	Have you been celibate since then?
	Or are you still seeing that guy?
	I mean, I wasn't seeing him.
	Like, yeah.
	Spending time with him.
	No, no, because he lives in New York and I live in LA.
	And then I've been traveling around.
	But we actually ended up in Korea together.
	Like, he was there at the same time as me.
	And so we hung out one more time.
	And then that was the last time I saw him.
	When was that?
	That was in December.
	So you've been celibate since December?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Sad.
	Oh, it's not that long, actually.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Bailey, what about you?
	You've been single for a year and a half, but there's been no guys in the picture.
	Tilt your mic down, please.
	Situation ship, sort of.
	Uh-huh.
	For just a little, but celibate since September.
	Okay, celibate since September.
	Yes.
	September.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Well, you're dating a guy?
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, you three are dating guys, so there you go.
	I did want to.
	Who here lives in LA?
	Well, this isn't in LA.
	You mean like just sorry?
	Because you said he's in the living room.
	That wasn't the question.
	Sorry.
	Wait, did I say here in LA?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Did I say here?
	You said who lives in LA?
	I said who lives in LA.
	Sorry.
	It's our house.
	So, who lives in LA?
	Okay.
	You live in LA?
	You live in LA.
	Anybody else?
	Oh, wow.
	They're going to meet girlfriend.
	Hey, watch out, though.
	She's going to bejewel your teeth.
	Bejewel.
	I want them.
	She's going to get them.
	She's going to give you a grill.
	That's going to be crazy.
	Yeah.
	Your hair's going to be all shit, too.
	I actually have like a burn, too.
	My hair used to look like that.
	So, okay.
	So, and I mean, I guess, who's from Southern California?
	Are you in?
	Yeah.
	So, like, a lot of people, I guess, when it comes to like LA dating, we got three people who live in LA here.
	A lot of people seem to have a lot of complaints when it comes to dating in LA.
	It's very superficial.
	There's so many people.
	Distances can sometimes be a problem just because LA is so fucking big.
	Oh, I live in LA.
	Oh, but you're an hour away.
	You know, whatever.
	So, do you guys think that LA, at least in the United States, is the worst city?
	Like, big city.
	Because I mean, maybe you could say, like, oh, some town with like 20 people, that probably sucks to date in that town.
	I live in a town like that.
	But I'm curious, like, is it the worst, like, larger city to date in?
	New York is the worst.
	Why is New York the worst?
	I think for my friends that live there, it's like everyone thinks that they can do so much better.
	And even though they meet someone that would match them, like 100%, they just keep like swiping on the apps and like, oh, we'll see, like, what I can get.
	And it's just like so sad.
	So I have like really smart, beautiful friends in LA.
	And I'm, I mean, sorry, in New York.
	And I'm just like, they're like almost going to be doctors and like they're really successful and they have really good morals.
	And still they have trouble dating.
	And so like, they're literally a catch in like a dozen.
	Like, I don't know how they have a hard time.
	And then I just look at the guys there and then they're just like, they'll say they'll love bomb.
	Like, I was only there for like, what?
	I was there for three days and I did meet a guy there.
	Oh, yeah, I did meet someone there.
	And so, yeah, I forgot about that guy.
	But anyways, he was saying the most to me, doing the most.
	And then once I left New York, then bye.
	And then I see him like, you know, taking some other girl out to courtside seats to watch like the NBA game.
	And so you're telling me that like you have a couple female friends who live in LA.
	No, no, New York.
	Or sorry, sorry.
	Yeah, I mixed up my words.
	That live in New York.
	And they're catches, as you would say.
	They're successful, whatever.
	But they are struggling to find men.
	I'm going to, I want to come back to that later, but I'm going to just keep it right now on like worst city to date.
	By the way, chat, what do you think is the worst city to date?
	You're in LA.
	Do you think LA is pretty bad when it comes to dating?
	I know club culture is pretty bad.
	Like dating in like club culture.
	Because it's just like when I stands.
	So I would say that part's bad.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you're in LA?
	Yeah.
	Pretty rough.
	Rough.
	It's hard out there.
	Yeah.
	It's hard out there.
	Very rough.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You know, I want to do a segment called Worst Cities to Dayton.
	And so, Damien, I need you to have Wikipedia, Wikipedia.
	You know what?
	We have a Korean here.
	So we're going to do, pull up Pyongyang.
	Oh, my God.
	Let's look up Pyongyang.
	Find the Wikipedia article.
	I think Pyongyang's pretty bad probably for dating.
	Oh, hair.
	Yeah.
	And then I'm trying to think where else is a bad city.
	Chat, what is the worst city?
	And you can't, like, be at least, be a bit trollish, but not, like, somewhat realistic.
	Like, don't say Antarctica, because that's not fair.
	all right um chat what's the somebody said in the chat somebody's saying phoenix st louis north korea is pretty bad we have a show most Somebody's saying mobile, Alabama.
	Did I say mobile?
	I don't know how to say it.
	Cleveland is bad.
	They're saying Bellevue.
	That's pretty bad.
	Phoenix, I get another Phoenix.
	Miami.
	Ooh, Miami's bad.
	Miami's probably.
	That could be the worst.
	Atlanta.
	Oof.
	Fresno.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Vegas.
	Yeah, Vegas is probably pretty bad.
	I'm wondering.
	What about Wuhan?
	That could be a pretty bad.
	Why would it be bad?
	Because viruses.
	Hey, what the heck?
	That's where it started.
	It's okay now.
	Imagine like India would be tough.
	Like anywhere in India.
	I would have to say that.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	It would be a little rough.
	Africa.
	What about marriages in Australia?
	Where's like a bad place to date, chat?
	They don't need to date.
	Damn.
	Right.
	Where's.
	Oh, can you also Wikipedia?
	I think it's the North Sentinelese Island.
	Look that up.
	So we're going to look that up.
	That's probably a pretty bad place to date.
	Bakersfield, Dallas.
	They're saying Dallas is bad.
	Bangladesh.
	Oh, Iraq.
	You know what?
	Let's do.
	Also, Baghdad.
	I want you to pull up Baghdad.
	And what's the capital of Afghanistan?
	Is it Kabul?
	Wait, Kabul?
	Kabul?
	Kabul?
	Yeah, let's just pull up the Wikipedias.
	So these are the top five worst places to date.
	Where's also Chernobyl?
	Let's get Chernobyl too.
	That's a bad place, also.
	People are saying Kiev, Russia, Detroit, Missouri, Chernobyl.
	The Congo, Congo, not so great.
	Yo, did anybody see that video?
	It was a guy.
	I don't know which African country.
	And he's, it's the creepiest video I saw.
	I saw it a couple days ago.
	It's a guy who's a black guy with like blonde hair who's leaning out the back of like a Jeep and he's like driving down a path and then there's this like African tribesman with like white body paint like chasing him down.
	Do you guys know what I'm talking about?
	Did you guys see that?
	It was very it's the scariest video.
	I'm gonna try to find it.
	Hold on maybe Damien can find it.
	Wait.
	It's called wait maybe I saw them Reddit.
	Reddit guy getting chased in fuck.
	What is it?
	Maybe it was an AI video and I got bamboozled.
	Can somebody find that video for me?
	Please.
	454.
	Oh, Houdini.
	Thank you for the gifted.
	20 subs, dude.
	You're fucking legend.
	Thank you, man.
	Here, let's start pulling up the wikis.
	Hey, X out of that ad, though, that's on top.
	Thank you, Houdini, for the gifted.
	Yeah, let's pull it up one by one.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	We'll look at it.
	Pyongyang, not a great place.
	Let's scroll down so I can see the photo.
	You know, hey, it kind of looks nice, though.
	It looks nice.
	It's literally a detail.
	I would click the monument to party founding.
	I would take a girl on a first date here.
	Oh, my God.
	This would be so romantic.
	Even you cannot land it.
	Like, if I took you to there, that would be good.
	We cannot land it.
	We're gonna go some basement, basement, basement.
	Oh, in the basement.
	While you're here, you're gonna need to.
	All right, next.
	Miami.
	Well, of course, next.
	Miami's terrible.
	Wuhan.
	Oh, it's Wuhan actually.
	That's Wuhan.
	It actually kind of looks so bad, you know.
	Next.
	Oh, yeah.
	This place.
	Hold on, guys.
	Guys, guys, stop, stop, stop.
	This place would be.
	I will pay somebody $10,000 to go here.
	I'll do it.
	We'll do it.
	I will do it.
	I will go.
	No, you can't do any research on this place, okay?
	You can't do any research.
	No, hold on.
	Actually, I'll pay you $100,000.
	How can you do that?
	And you have to go on a date here.
	I'll do it.
	You'll do it?
	I'll still do it.
	Would we even leave or like would we?
	Yeah, scroll down.
	No, you just have to spend 24 hours on the island and a date with one of the islanders.
	Scroll down?
	Well, I don't actually wait.
	I'm taking my statement back.
	It says that that guy was killed after making eye contact with somebody.
	I think I'm going to recount my statement.
	Wait, hold on, wait.
	Don't scroll down further because I'm pretty sure these guys have their cocks out.
	Because they're like, they don't wear clothes or something.
	So I don't know if we can.
	Wait, let's just do the next Wikipedia article.
	It's basically, I don't know if they're cannibals, but they're protected.
	They're a protected tribe.
	They'll kill outsiders.
	Like they're totally isolated.
	Yeah, I'm going to change the game.
	We wouldn't even get your money then.
	I just saw a patch of green grass.
	Oh, I can go there for 24 hours.
	Sure.
	Kabul in Afghanistan.
	Scroll down.
	Hey, that's kind of nice there.
	I don't know.
	It looks nice.
	Oh, the shrine.
	All right, next.
	Kabul, Afghanistan.
	Pripyat.
	Ghosts.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Scroll down.
	The bottom right one?
	That picture?
	Oh, it's just, okay, it's like a comp montage or whatever.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it looks romantic.
	Next.
	Can.
	Oh, scroll down?
	Can somebody on my Instagram send me that video of the guy being the black man in the Jeep being chased by can somebody send that to me?
	Because I don't, that has nothing to do with dating, but whatever.
	Is that it, Damien?
	I think.
	Okay.
	We have a message from Houdini.
	Also, hey, Brian, love the show.
	Last week's episode with Mason was great.
	Loved hearing about him dating with intention for marriage.
	It gives me hope for humanity.
	That's dope.
	Thank you so much, Houdini.
	Thank you for the 20 gifted subs, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	And there's some interesting feedback when it came to that.
	But anyways, we were going around the table.
	Oh, no, we already finished with everybody's roster and situation ships and whatnot.
	Are you actually single, though?
	Yeah, we already did it.
	So I wanted to go back to something you were saying, Ivy.
	If you can scoot into the table, just scoot into the table.
	You're too far back.
	I like to sit here.
	So you said that you have a bunch of girlfriends in New York who you said they're a catch.
	They're attractive.
	You said successful.
	Yeah.
	Some of them are doctors or going to be doctors, is that right?
	In their medical school, but they can't find a guy.
	But so are you saying what makes them a catch is that they're really successful and some of them are doctors?
	No, no, I'm saying they're also like really pretty and think that they have a very high EQ and they're very caring.
	But yeah, I think that it's just like rough out there in the dating scene.
	Everyone, guys and girls, maybe some, there are some problems with the girls, right?
	They also maybe think that they can do better sometimes.
	I think it goes both ways.
	Because I hear guys and girls do the same thing.
	Like I was only here for three days.
	Why do I hear both of them complaining?
	And they're just saying that it's impossible to date in the city.
	No one wants to commit.
	And I hear guys and girls saying that.
	So I'm like, someone's messed up.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Because the way it sounded earlier was you're saying like, oh, you know, they're so successful.
	They're doctors.
	No, no, no.
	I look at people's personalities.
	And then people around me, they just happen to be like working professionals.
	I think I'm the only one that probably has a more unconventional lifestyle.
	What is that?
	Like, I just wasn't someone that, like, well, I was at one point where I was like a school teacher.
	And then I decided, like, oh, I did it for two years.
	You know, I did TFA for two years.
	And so it's time for me to, like, while I'm young and I can still do this, I just like go around and travel and explore and see what else is out there.
	Yeah.
	So I like don't really stay in the States that often, so I don't really have a lot of roots in the States.
	But I do know people abroad a lot.
	So that's that's unconventional, I guess.
	Okay.
	We have a chat here from Yarmuth.
	One last thing before I go.
	Gavin McInnes once said that New York was an elephant's graveyard for ovaries.
	From Yarmuth.
	Thank you for the super chat.
	Does anybody want to respond?
	He's saying it's a graveyard.
	What's the difference between a regular graveyard and an elephant graveyard?
	It's just a big, it's a big graveyard.
	So, yeah, it's hard for the women to date in New York.
	Yeah, I hear about like girls asking guys out on dates, and that like shocked me.
	I was like, why are you asking them out?
	And then, yeah, the guys are saying it's so fun.
	So, guys definitely have a lot more fun in New York.
	And I think in LA, it's like kind of equal.
	So, I think we have it a lot more easier.
	But nothing compares to Asia because I think that definitely girls are chasing guys all over Asia.
	There's just more girls than guys, I think, in Southeast Asia.
	Yeah.
	Oh, let's do this.
	Also, for can you guys grab one of the questionnaires and get a pen?
	And we're going to have Ivy fill it out.
	Oh, God.
	Why don't I have extra work?
	Yeah, you got it.
	You got it.
	Oh, okay, thank you.
	You have a homework assignment.
	There should be some just at the table, I think, right?
	Maybe?
	Well, go on here.
	Huh?
	Yeah, let's get her a pen too.
	No, no, no, no.
	Just pass it to her.
	Just, no, no, no.
	You can literally pass it to her and then pass it.
	Okay, so I do this.
	Yeah, we'll just have you fill it out while we're continuing on with the conversation.
	So it's put your name at the top, yes, no for all these, and then answer the questions at the bottom.
	All right, so here's what we're gonna do.
	I'm gonna continue on with the pre-show notes.
	Let's do, let's skip to Brenda.
	Brenda, you said you dated someone with public allegations, and it turned into a crazily online debacle because honestly, we were both just drama and trauma.
	It was messy, and looking back, you see how much of it was fueled by unresolved wounds rather than anything real.
	So when you say you were dating this guy, was this one of your boyfriends or whatever?
	Yeah, my last relationship.
	And what do you mean by public allegations?
	Well, in the pre-show, there was like certain things that I can't say.
	So just like allegations.
	Yeah, like allegations that were.
	But you, was it involving you or somebody else?
	No, no, no, other people.
	Like from his past, other people from his past.
	He had wounds, never communicated, and people just made allegations about him.
	So his reputation was already like dented, I guess.
	And then when I got into it, I obviously was like, fuck, fuck the allegations, you know.
	And then I just learned that they're just based off of patterns.
	Okay.
	You said also pertaining to this that the situation taught you firsthand how social media can be weaponized in relationships and he tried to exploit you online after you guys broke up.
	Yeah.
	But you did the same.
	Yes, to defend myself.
	Okay, but he started it.
	Yes, well, so actually I did.
	So, but I had quickly deleted it.
	So what had happened is he had falsely imprisoned me and I had then posted something online about what had actually happened and basically staying all the allegations or I found out that to be true because something happened to me.
	And then I quickly deleted it after 10 minutes.
	But then by that time, because our circles are so close, he was already getting calls and DMs.
	And then a couple hours later, he makes a post and falsely exploits me, says I did XYZ.
	And immediately I create a post and I have video.
	And I posted the videos and like everything that stated basically what he was saying was false.
	And this is the real story because I had friends with me that day.
	their videos.
	You said he did what?
	He falsely imprisoned you or what was it that you said?
	So I don't want to get you because there's a lot of, I would have to say every single thing in order for it to make sense because there's a lot of layers for the contacts.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So he what was the word that you used?
	I'm just trying to recall.
	It was imprisoned or what?
	Falsely imprisoned.
	Falsely.
	Okay.
	What is that?
	So I went out.
	He called 911 and stated that I was doing something that I wasn't doing.
	And both of us were non-coherent.
	So and I was less in I was more in and out of it than he was.
	But still, because I was so in and out of it, when I had like woke up from a blackout, I was like talking to the cops.
	And then the process of imprisonment was.
	Was he wait?
	The process of imprisonment started after the cops came?
	Well, yeah, because so we were in my apartment.
	Did the cops were fighting?
	The cops detained you.
	Yes, we're fighting.
	Did they arrest you?
	Yes, they did.
	Well, so, and then they transferred me over to the hospital.
	Oh, you got 5150?
	Yes.
	I see.
	And then how long were you in like the, what is it, a psych hold or what's that called?
	Yeah, so it was like at 3 a.m.
	And the moment that the psychiatrist came in, she had an evaluation and then deemed that I was fit to go.
	And so just let you go?
	Yeah, because I was like, how long were you held?
	I'm sorry.
	How long were you held?
	Just until the physician came in, which was a couple hours, maybe.
	A couple hours, yeah.
	But it was rough.
	Okay.
	And were there substances involved?
	Well, no, so it was my birthday, and we just went out to the club, and alcohol was involved.
	Okay, so you had been drinking a little bit.
	Okay.
	So, wait, I'm a little confused, though.
	So he, are you saying that the police falsely imprisoned him?
	Yeah, no, so basically what had happened is we're in my apartment, we're fighting, and it got physical on both ends.
	And who started?
	Who initiated?
	He did.
	Okay.
	i would i was the one who put my hands on him first but he was the one who shoved me first so it was like you put your hand so So he shoved me.
	Okay, so let me just say the story.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, okay.
	So we're in my apartment.
	We had just got into a fight because we were in a relationship and then he, then we were out of the relationship.
	And then we started talking again.
	And he didn't want to be exclusive.
	So I was already in this mindset of, all right, on my birthday, like, cool, we're going to have fun.
	And I'm just going to live.
	And on my birthday, I was trying to get backstage faster.
	So I was like trying to flirt with the bouncer.
	And I'm just kind of very mad.
	Got angry, started to get aggressive with the bouncer.
	My friends were there.
	So then we're driving home.
	He's drunk.
	We're all drunk.
	And this is when he starts yelling at me.
	Well, we get to my apartment and my friends leave because they see me go into my apartment.
	But then because we are in an argument and I want to him, I want to talk about it.
	I call him up and I was like, I need help to get into my apartment.
	Can you help me?
	Blah, And then he helps me.
	You get into my apartment and his laptop is in my apartment.
	And this laptop was a gift, but he wanted to take the gift back.
	And I was like, no, all my stuff is in here.
	Like, you need to give me time.
	And he was like, no, like, I want my stuff now and I want to leave.
	And I was like, you can leave, but I'm going to keep your laptop.
	We're fighting over the laptop.
	I'm holding it.
	I get shoved.
	It's a gift or he was loaning you his laptop?
	It was a gift.
	He said, this is your laptop.
	You could have this laptop.
	Was it brand new?
	No.
	So he gave you a used.
	Yeah, but he cleared it.
	He cleared it out.
	Well, yeah, I needed one because he...
	So he loaned...
	Are you sure it was a gift?
	Yeah, no, yeah.
	He literally said, like, this is for you.
	No.
	For you as a loaned laptop.
	No, he said, like, this is for you.
	But he wanted it back.
	He wanted it back.
	And you wanted to keep it.
	I wanted to keep it.
	Okay, so you guys started fighting.
	And I'm holding laptop.
	So what I mean by I put my hands on him first is when he shoved me, I was holding laptop and I fell to the ground.
	And because I have like concrete floor, or not concrete floor, like tile floor, I took it as if like, oh, like, okay, like, we're going to go.
	And then I just.
	You guys started going.
	We started going.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then it got really bad.
	So how long were you guys doing like MMA or whatever?
	I wish I could tell you how long it was.
	But so he called, then he called the cops.
	So I have an audio recording and it was 10 minutes long.
	So for 10 minutes, that's how long it took the cops to get here, to get to my place.
	And then was he arrested also?
	No, just me.
	Just you?
	Yeah, because I was crazy, girl.
	I was the girl who was trying to hurt him when it was back and forth.
	We were fighting over a bunch of people.
	Was he fucked up?
	Yeah.
	No, I mean, like, was his face, like, were you, you guys, were you guys throwing punches at each other?
	So because he was like choking me, I started to bite him.
	Like, that's how I had nothing else to do.
	There's an arm on my throat, you know?
	Like, what do I do?
	I bit him.
	So because there was, because.
	Was it like a Mike Tyson situation that you took off his air?
	Like you bit his hero?
	There were pieces of his arm, like skin, skin out.
	I don't think I ate it.
	You have, I have nothing to do besides, no matter what, he's stronger than me, you know?
	So you bit him multiple times on the arm.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I was getting choked.
	And like took his flesh off, basically.
	I did.
	Whoa, you seem kind of happy about that.
	No, no.
	I don't know.
	You're like, yeah.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	That's just my energy.
	I'm sorry.
	No, that's it.
	You're good.
	You're good.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't have that.
	I'm going to get clipped now.
	It's going to sound like.
	Wait, so okay.
	So anyways.
	Wait, so is he when you say he has you in the chokehold?
	Is it like he's trying to choke you out or is he like it's like a rest more restraining you?
	Like so I thought it was more choked out, which is why I ended up like making that post.
	But because we ended up talking after, it was him trying to restrain me because when I finally told him like, I can't breathe, dude, I can't, like, I was like, then he stopped.
	He was like, oh, oh, oh.
	But like, we were both in fucking effed up mode.
	Okay.
	So, okay.
	Who, if, if you were like rewinding the tape, who looked more fucked up?
	Like, like drunk?
	No, like, bloody bruises.
	Who looked more beat up?
	Because the bruises on my neck came later on.
	I did not really look fucked up.
	Okay.
	He was, because he had literal pieces of his arm, you know, and like he looked more.
	So that's why when the cops came, that's why they made it.
	Were you, were you, you said, because you said that the cops said that you were like acting crazy or whatever.
	Were you acting kind of crazy?
	Well, I was fighting him.
	And but were you trying to fight the cops and shit?
	Oh, no, no, of course not.
	No, so the moment the cops came in, he was on top of me, and then the cops was like, get off of her.
	And then I. Did you kick him in the balls like as they were pulling him off you?
	No, no.
	So I'm on the ground and then immediately the cops come on top of me and they put handcuffs on me.
	And then I'm just like, what the what's happening right now?
	Because I thought the cops were coming to stop the situation.
	I thought they were coming to like, you know, like stop it because we were both fighting and I didn't think that I was going to be the one getting the tamed.
	Huh.
	And you said there was audio recording of this?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm not sharing it.
	No, no, no.
	That is really bad.
	It sounds really bad.
	It sounds really bad.
	I don't want to.
	Yeah.
	I kind of want to hear it, but not appropriate for the stream.
	Okay, so that's wild.
	Were you charged or were charges dropped?
	Were there charges?
	So the state didn't put any charges on me and he didn't put any charges on me.
	I just, I went to the holding cell.
	And this is where I didn't cooperate with the cops because I didn't.
	Oh, wait.
	But first, you went to the hospital.
	No, first I went to a holding cell.
	Holding cell.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	So they didn't 5150 you at the scene.
	They arrested you.
	Brought you to the jail.
	Yes.
	And how long?
	And then from the jail, they 5150 you.
	So how were you, were you like losing your mind in the jail?
	No, so that's why I wasn't cooperating.
	I was like, I didn't do anything wrong.
	I was like, this is not right.
	Because here's the thing.
	I just moved into this apartment and I'm literally going to get dragged down in handcuffs on my birthday in this new apartment.
	On the birthday.
	How dare?
	On her birthday.
	Like, not like the day after.
	Like, come on.
	But anyway.
	She's the birthday.
	If you commit a crime on your birthday, you know, even if it's alleged, right?
	I'm not saying you did anything.
	They got to let you go.
	That's the get out of jail free card.
	Or I was just letting you raise it.
	Excuse me, officer.
	I'm Luigi Mangione.
	It's my fucking birthday today.
	I just assassinated the healthcare CEO.
	I get to not go to prison.
	Anyway, so okay, you're causing shit.
	You're beefing with the other cellies, the people in the cell.
	So maybe it's not a cell because I was alone in there.
	Okay, you were in your own cell.
	I was in my own.
	Okay, cell.
	Yeah.
	But you weren't being cooperative.
	No, because they wanted my insurance and I wouldn't give it to them to them.
	Wait, give your what?
	My insurance, like my health insurance.
	Health insurance.
	In jail?
	Wait, that's.
	Yeah, they were asking because they needed to know what hospital to send me to.
	So they were asking what my insurance is.
	Because they were going to 5150 you.
	Yeah.
	But they were going to 5150 you because why?
	I was blacked out with whatever he said.
	Oh, you were, okay, you were still drunk.
	No, so.
	But you said you blacked out.
	Yes, yes.
	So when we were fighting, no, no, so when we were fighting, I was blacking in and blacking out.
	Blacking in and blacking out.
	So I would wake up.
	So wait.
	From blackout?
	Wake up, bite, black out.
	I don't remember biting.
	I don't remember biting.
	I just remember getting choked.
	And then that, yeah.
	Did you remember the taste of flesh, you fucking cannibal?
	No, I don't.
	You're you cannibal.
	This is, you know what?
	Here's what I think happened.
	Secretly, she's a cannibal, and she's like, I want his flesh.
	Take me to the island.
	There you go.
	You're going.
	She wants the flesh.
	And she's like, this is, I have to stage a domestic violence situation so I can bite him.
	And then it's, because I think cannibalism, that's pretty serious.
	But if you're just like, I bit him in self-defense, it's not a big deal.
	That's what it was.
	No, I get it.
	I know, I know.
	It was my subconscious mind because I was not coherent.
	Did you guys end up like pressing towards the business?
	Tell us about it.
	Tell us in the jail cell.
	You were not being cooperative.
	What happened?
	Then they called him and they asked him for what my insurance was and he told them and they took me to the nearest hospital.
	No, but because you first they brought you to the jail cell, but then you were not being cooperative in jail.
	I was not like, yo, she's got to go to the hospital.
	We're going to 5150 her psyche val.
	Why?
	So I think that was the initial intention.
	Whatever he said on the phone.
	So I don't want to get so there was something that he had said on the phone.
	You could look it up like self-harm stuff.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's why they've got it.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So that's a better way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And because he had said that on the phone, already the cops came in with that intention.
	Then they were going to take me.
	Were you banging your head on the glass door of the cell?
	Oh, no.
	Because if somebody is hurting themselves that way, they're going to.
	No.
	No.
	I was just crying.
	Were you in a straitjacket?
	You're funny.
	No, I'm just curious if they put you in a straitjacket.
	No.
	Well, okay, so when I was actually in there, they'd restrain me because I tried to leave.
	I was like, I'm going to walk out.
	And I was like, I know how to get home.
	So I was like, I'm not.
	You said that to the police officers in the jail.
	No, so this is when I'm already in the hospital.
	Sorry, my brain goes.
	When I was in the hospital, I was like waiting to like take, yeah, I was in the hospital.
	I was like, so you got restrained to the bed?
	After I try to walk out, I was like, I'm leaving.
	I know how to leave.
	And then they're like, nope, you can't leave.
	And I was like, yeah, I can't.
	Wait, but there was like a police guard at the hospital, right?
	No, they had left.
	They had left me with them.
	Okay.
	You're shaking your head.
	You've been through this before.
	The 5150.
	I feel her pain.
	No.
	Oh, you feel her pain.
	Oh, I am.
	Anybody else here been 5150?
	Mary, admit it.
	You were about to say yes.
	About to say yes.
	But no, you haven't been 51.50?
	No.
	Okay.
	But I am so grateful for that experience because I wouldn't have what I have right now and I wouldn't have learned to not make stupid decisions and get myself into situations.
	I see.
	Wow.
	That is complicated.
	That is a complicated.
	That's that's cool.
	You know what?
	It's not cool.
	It is cool because again, a lot of growth came from that.
	And I'm like forever grateful that it sucks that, yeah, it had to be like that to that degree to where I had to like learn something.
	But like, that's just, it fucking happened.
	And wow.
	Cool.
	Cool.
	So it sounds like that didn't work out.
	No.
	Sorry.
	Well, we tried after.
	We went back to each other for a couple months.
	I made a public statement to like protect him because obviously like the stuff that I said was like, I'm sorry, if a girl takes a flesh out of my body.
	Well, hold on.
	If she takes outer flesh out of me, I think I have to break up with it.
	No, I think that's a breakup.
	That's actually not crazy.
	That's the thing.
	No, I'm just saying, I know maybe, you know, stuff happens, whatever, just like casual cannibalism in a relationship.
	But I feel like once she takes, once a girl bites your flesh off, it has to be a, that's a breakup.
	Well, then, like, then they'll choke the girl and then she won't bite you.
	Sometimes girls ask for that, though.
	Okay.
	In bed, it's different and totally different.
	By the way, I don't.
	Who here wants to be choked?
	Not now.
	Like in the middle of the day.
	No.
	Why would you get sex, right?
	Why would you sex?
	In bed.
	Yes.
	In bed, yes.
	In bed, yes.
	Bailey in the middle.
	Bailey's the freak.
	She's the freaky one.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	What if they tuck you in after?
	And then they cuddle you.
	Alina's more like, you're rushing, right, Alina?
	I just want to hug.
	No.
	In bed.
	What's the, she does combat sombo in bed.
	That's like the like Russian MMA shit.
	She like, whoa.
	Hey.
	Hey, do that again.
	Do it again.
	Let me live again.
	Oh, it's such a silly man.
	No, fucking Alina here.
	She like goes, she spars before she has, she gets down because she's a combat sombo.
	Right?
	You did sombo?
	Sure.
	Okay, good talk.
	That's cool.
	So anyways, that's crazy.
	That's a doozy.
	That's quite a story.
	Over a laptop, right?
	Well, yeah, it goes deeper than that.
	Like, just our relationship entirely.
	Damn, what's up with all y'all wanting to be choked?
	I don't know.
	Something happened in like 2017.
	Like, it went from like wholesome, wholesome, to like, chuck me, daddy.
	Oh, my God.
	What happened to y'all?
	Y'all got, something happened.
	I think you guys got like a virus or something.
	The internet exploded.
	No, but like it does, it like reduces, like, it's like a euphoria feeling because it does, it reduces, it's, it's, you can, like, look into it.
	It's, it reduces oxygen.
	So it's like a euphoric, like, lightheaded, like, it's, there's a reason behind it.
	It's not just because, like, oh, I want to say that I like to be choked because it makes me more fun.
	Do you feel like it comes from trauma?
	Like, you like to get choked in bed because there's like a deep part of you that's like wounded?
	No.
	I mean, I definitely have trauma, but that's not why I like to get choked.
	I did not like it until I met my current boyfriend.
	I would never allow it until I was with my current boyfriend.
	Yeah, the whatever.
	Ever enjoyer?
	Yes.
	There's like freaky.
	Yeah, freak.
	What the fuck?
	And he didn't send it.
	I don't think he sent it.
	No, I don't think he did.
	Pathetic.
	Because to me, it's not like, yeah, it's freaky, whatever.
	But it's literally like, I would give you control over my last breath.
	I trust you that much.
	And that's not something, and it's hot.
	And then I was withdrawing off of nicotine too, so I needed a little head rush.
	What's happening?
	I was like, I'm about to go to work.
	Daddy, may you please make me feel alive.
	And he doesn't.
	Go crazy.
	He's fine.
	And I'm like, amen.
	Hallelujah.
	But I feel like also there's a right and a wrong way to do it.
	Like some guys just don't know how to do it.
	So like if you're not doing it, you're not going to be able to do it.
	And then there's a difference between God and a man.
	Okay.
	And they know.
	There's a difference between trying to make it an enjoyable experience and trying to like off you.
	Like it's just different.
	It's a right and a wrong way to do it.
	Like define line.
	Grabbing somebody with both hands and like that's not how you do it.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	You don't like that?
	What?
	Choking like for you and you're like here's the thing, right?
	Is it depend, like, if it's like just the hand on the neck and I can put a little weight on it, like a little, I think I'm okay with that.
	But when it's like, it goes into breath play, then I'm a little nervous.
	Like if a girl just wants a hand on, like, and it's like a lip, that's okay.
	But then you got to be careful.
	Like some of these girls, man, if you're doing that, at least for advice for men, if you're doing that with a chick, you got to get her to text you that shit.
	Like she has to text you, I want you to do this shit because I ain't going to, I'm not going to be in a position dealing with the chick.
	And she's like, I want you to smack me around.
	You got to like say that shit on camera.
	And first off, I don't want to smack.
	I'm not, I wouldn't smack a girl around.
	Like that's, that's a boundary.
	Even if she wants it, fuck you.
	I ain't doing that shit.
	But like a choke or something, hair pulling, whatever, spanking, I'll do it.
	Yeah, but there's a fine line of that.
	But like you want to, you want fucking bruises on your body?
	You got to be on fucking camera telling me that shit, but I'm not doing it anyways.
	I'm not putting bruises on a girl.
	Valid.
	But some more Tame stuff, I'm okay with.
	But any guys out there who like are into that stuff and the chicks, like, maybe you're a little naive and she's like, Oh, I want you to put bruises on me, hit me, whatever.
	Bro, you got to get her to say that shit on camera.
	You got to protect yourself in that kind of situation.
	Because you know what I mean?
	Chat, you know what I mean.
	She knows what I mean.
	You know what I mean?
	They know what I mean.
	I don't know.
	Look, if it turns my partner on right, there are things that don't do anything for me, but if it helps them out, I'll do it.
	And so, like, if it turns them on, they'll turn me on.
	But there are just certain things I'm not going to do.
	So, yeah.
	What if you just like try everything once?
	And if you don't like it, you don't have to try it.
	Some things I just will not do.
	100% boundary.
	Like, if she wants me to, I don't know.
	I wouldn't, like, smack a girl across the face.
	I wouldn't do that.
	No way.
	Have a spit in her mouth.
	Sure.
	Why not?
	That was guttural.
	Why not?
	Not my thing, but if it, whatever, if, you know, look, sometimes you care about your partner.
	You care about your partner's pleasure.
	They got something a little quirky or interesting.
	If it's not anything that's a boundary, whatever, you can kind of, I think it's fine.
	I think it's fine.
	Yeah, good talk.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Sick.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, okay, we have Jay Nico here.
	We have a couple chats.
	There aren't.
	You know what?
	Patrice, excuse me.
	Can you read it?
	Can you be the reader?
	There aren't enough red flags for chair one.
	This is why no decent man will date a raver ethought.
	Chair eight.
	Can we clone you?
	You must be protected at all costs.
	Oh.
	No, you're cherry.
	Your cherry.
	Thank you.
	Look, look into that camera and wing.
	Hey, clip it and ship it, boys.
	Clip it and ship it.
	Let's see here.
	We have a chair.
	And I think is Andrew.
	Oh, shit.
	Sorry.
	I haven't been checking my phone.
	I think Andrew's ready.
	We're going to try to get him on.
	Yo-ho.
	Can Alina read Mike Davis's read Mike Davis for us.
	What's up, y'all?
	It's Mike Davis.
	I hope y'all been in the lab working on your craft instead of sitting behind the screen busting nuts and dropping your welfare checks on these degenerate 304s.
	Stop making excuses and feeling sorry for yourselves.
	Time to level up.
	First off, Mike Davis.
	Mike Davis is the OG.
	Hold on, let me.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That's why he's driving me.
	That's why he's the goat.
	He is the GOAT.
	He's not even a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Mike Davis, I don't know.
	Here, I'm going to pull it back up.
	I don't know the last time you've sent in a super chat, but it's really good to see you, man.
	I hope your 2025 is off to a great start.
	I hope you've opened up a bunch more Burger King franchises.
	Maybe you can get Quiznos up and running again, too.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Really appreciate the super chat.
	This guy is the OG.
	He's been here since, I don't know the exact number of the episode when you first started, but I think it was like the first 10, first 20.
	You're an OG back in, I mean, it was for sure back in 2022.
	You've been with us for a while.
	I know you don't stop by as often as you used to, but it's really good to see you.
	Pretty much you single-handedly kept the show going early on because you were like our number or kind of like our, you, Dave on Jackson, were like our kind of really initial patrons, but primarily you, Mike.
	So I want to do a big shout out to you.
	It's good to see you.
	We haven't seen you in a bit, but thank you so much, man.
	I hope you're off to, I hope you're doing well, man.
	Let's see.
	We have, do we have Andrew?
	Do we have him?
	Oh, oh, look who it is.
	Hey, Andrew, good to see you, man.
	Oh, do we have?
	Sorry, I'm late.
	Oh, you're good.
	Yeah, I was on a trip all weekend, and I just didn't get much sleep.
	No, it's all good.
	How was the debate con man?
	It was great.
	It was great.
	We hijacked the entire thing.
	It was fantastic.
	We basically took it over, strong arm James.
	Pretty proud of that.
	So, yeah, it was good.
	Did you, I didn't get to see much just because I had my own show going, but did you debate with Brianna Wu or was that somebody else?
	That was Witsit, Austin Witsit.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	I have debated with Wu before.
	Yeah.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Well, welcome to the panel.
	This is Andrew Wilson.
	Welcome, welcome.
	All right.
	We're going to get into, I don't know if you were listening, but we're just going to get into some of the rest of the show here.
	So let's see.
	Oh.
	Oh, last thing for this guy.
	You said to make it a bit more juicier.
	Oh, yeah.
	This same man had an OnlyFans subscription to your best friend and would use it anytime you had an argument.
	Huh?
	Watch!
	Yeah.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Get it here.
	Yeah, to be fair, so I want to just put it on the table so he doesn't look like some like, like, or my ex doesn't look like some like weird, weird man.
	But I also had an OF and I wouldn't utilize it.
	Yeah, I wouldn't use it, but it was just there to like collect the money that was from the subscribers that were like already like there.
	And I got it before we got it.
	Wait, wait, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Before you continue, what do you mean it was just there to collect money from subscribers who were already there?
	Oh, like I don't post on it.
	I don't send out anything.
	I just, I've had subscribers because when I posted about it, a lot of people ended up subscribing and ended up staying and they just pay per month waiting for me to post.
	Oh, yeah.
	But you don't post anything?
	At that time, no, because we got into a relationship and he felt uncomfortable with it.
	So I stopped.
	I see.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Thanks.
	Yeah.
	So because that existed, I think probably like it triggered him in his mind to like think that it was okay to like do that.
	And yeah, he did that.
	She was a good friend of mine.
	And anytime we had an argument, he would go and look at it and he admitted to it.
	And yeah.
	Isn't that kind of a good strategy though, if you think about it from the angle of the boyfriend?
	So like if you're doing if you're doing OF, then you can't really have any moral problems with him if he's watching other OF girls, right?
	Well, that's what I mean by that's what he was probably thinking.
	That's why like he was okay with doing that.
	But I was really hurt in the moment.
	Of course, when I found out, I was like, you know, F you, like, we're not going to talk anymore.
	And yeah.
	So it actually gets really juicy and I'm down to share it.
	So when we were fighting during that moment, I was already back at my apartment and we were texting this argument.
	And he wanted to talk so bad with me.
	I was like, we're not going to talk.
	Like, I don't want to talk to you.
	And then I actually blocked him.
	And then he was like, anything.
	He called me again and he was like, anything that you need, like from a private number, anything that you need.
	Like, I want to work on this.
	I want to fix this.
	Because around this time is when I was making a public statement to try to defend what had happened before, like what I had said, him like, you know, abusing me and stuff like that.
	And I was like, all right, then send me my rent.
	Send me 3K and I'll talk to you.
	And he sent me my rent and then we had a conversation and then we got back together again.
	So that's, that's, yeah.
	FPN.
	Messy girl.
	That was messy brain.
	Messy brain.
	Did your best.
	Wait, so are you still talking to him?
	No.
	Oh, God, no.
	God, no.
	Yeah, no.
	But the best friend, though, that he was subscribed to, like, did y'all still keep in contact with her?
	Oh, yeah, she's my girl.
	Like, still?
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to get mad at it.
	It wasn't her fault.
	Yeah, it's not her fault.
	Yeah.
	It's not her fault, but wouldn't you still feel uncomfortable, though?
	Like, if I catch my man, like, I wouldn't have an OnlyFans.
	But let me say, like, I would be in your situation where it happened to me.
	Wouldn't you still feel uncomfortable?
	He's.
	If you have OnlyFans, he can go subscribe to any girl.
	But that he specifically chose your best friend.
	Don't you think that's kind of weird?
	Yeah, it's weird on his end, but like.
	It's not her fault.
	Yeah, it's not her fault.
	I'm not saying it's her fault.
	I'm just saying, wouldn't you feel uncomfortable?
	Like around my girlfriend?
	Yeah.
	Some people might.
	Yeah, I mean, maybe it took me a while to like reconnect with her on like the level that we were at, but it just came naturally.
	It's kind of like going with the flow and not really thinking too much about it.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	If anything, he told on himself.
	Like there's guys that hang out with their girlfriend and her friends all the time, and they secretly are thinking probably nine times out of ten, oh, that friend I would do this, that, and the other thing with.
	He told on himself.
	He told exactly what friend and exactly he made her more perceptive to the situation, probably.
	Yeah.
	I actually really like that story because I think I went through a similar problem with two guys that I dated and they both liked like my friend first.
	And so it was really tough for me because like, oh, no, one of them was the ex I was talking about, the one that broke up to go to the military.
	We met up again after we broken up in Korea.
	And then like he said, he you know wanted to like, you know, still be with me.
	But then as soon as he met my friend, they started talking.
	And he was like, oh, you know, I didn't see a feature with Ivy.
	I really like you.
	Like, can we go out?
	And then she, I only knew her for a week at that point, but I really liked her a lot.
	And so I'll be honest, it is really tough.
	And the same ex, he also hit on my best friend in college at UCSD two years prior.
	And so, and I still say it with that guy.
	But it's like, it is tough.
	I will say like these friendships, like the girls, like as long as the guy's out of the picture, you can still be friends with a girl.
	But like when I was still dating that guy, I like lost that best friend at UCSD.
	And so I don't talk to her anymore.
	And so it's really sad.
	I'm like, oh, I really resonate with that a lot.
	It's all like the mental mind game, you know?
	Like, if you tell yourself, like, this person is, I'm going to be uncomfortable around this person, you're going to be uncomfortable.
	But like, if you just don't really think about it in that way, then you're just shoving it down, though.
	No?
	No.
	Well, I went to therapy.
	I talked about it.
	Yeah, no, I journal, I meditate every day.
	Like, I'm still dealing with the whole healing process, but I'm at a place where I could talk about it and not like I'm not.
	Did you say that you journal and you what?
	Oh, I journal and I practice mindful meditation.
	On your journey.
	Yeah, I guess self-healing.
	Yeah, I guess, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's helpful.
	Like, I looked into stoicism and Taoism, and a lot of like these philosophies have really rewired my brain to like not be toxic.
	What's your favorite thing about stoicism?
	The fact that you're not attached to someone's decision and it doesn't just, I feel like I'm more in tune with my inner emotion because I don't let my actions be dictated off of someone else's actions.
	And I think that's something that I struggled with in the past.
	If like I needed to be validated, I needed to control a situation and it would lead me into like what had happened, you know?
	And the moment that I detached and detached, but still like with love, I was able to just fully feel like more peace of mind and more calm and just, yeah, more calm.
	Are you like the oldest child?
	No, I'm the youngest.
	Oh, wow.
	A lot of burden on yourself.
	Yeah, I just think that, yeah, it seems like you did a lot of self-work because, you know, like when you're younger, you felt like you had to control the situations.
	And that's like a very older child mentality to have.
	Because I feel like younger kids are just like, you know, they're the last one.
	So the parents really chill with them.
	They don't have to like hide things or like care about like more spoilers.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	A little bit more spoiled.
	They tend to be.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, I was 50 when I'd so it's like I'm at rock bottom and I thought I couldn't go any lower and I just kept getting lower and I'm like, all right, Brenda, like let's figure this shit out.
	Let's actually like try to be a good person and learn from this.
	And so I feel like I had to.
	Like there was no other way.
	I was just going to keep, I was going to keep going lower.
	Keep going lower.
	Wait, your name is Brenda?
	I'm so sorry.
	I didn't get everyone's name.
	Can everyone like say their name again for me?
	Brenda and then Patrice.
	Patrice.
	Kelly.
	Kelly.
	Okay.
	Bailey.
	Bailey.
	Steph.
	Steph.
	Mary.
	Mary.
	Elena.
	Alina.
	Oh, you look like Alina from like Vampire Diaries.
	Elena.
	Elena.
	I like how you repeated all of their names so that.
	Okay, Brenda, Patrice, Kelly.
	Did you almost say Korea?
	Karina?
	No, not even close.
	Bailey.
	Almost it.
	And then Steph.
	Wow.
	Mary.
	Mary.
	Kelly.
	Mary.
	And last time.
	Alina.
	Yes.
	Alina.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	I love that.
	That's a really good strategy.
	Ivy, Ivy.
	Bailey.
	Yes, now I have everyone's name.
	Because I joined late.
	I was like, oh, it feels uncomfortable.
	I don't.
	I'm talking to like random people right now.
	But now I have your names out.
	Right.
	You got it, Ivy.
	All right.
	Somebody take that pen from her because it's a menace.
	I do fidget a lot.
	I'm going to just chuck it.
	Watch.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, I wasn't trying.
	Oh!
	I wasn't trying to throw it to you.
	I was just going to throw it and let the chips fall where they may.
	He did a good catch, though.
	It was a good one.
	He used to play baseball.
	All right.
	So let's get into the notes.
	Sorry, guys.
	I had to step away there for a sec.
	Let's see.
	Here, I'm going to do.
	I almost want to just jump into the questionnaire because it's kind of more interesting.
	And then we'll do some of your guys's notes.
	Ivy, you said you dated a guy for a month and then he broke up and stole your dog and $3,000.
	Oh my God.
	Yeah, I told you that.
	Yeah, what's the story?
	Oh, the story is, it's really traumatizing, actually.
	But yeah, so this guy, also, I was telling you about another guy that liked my friend first as well.
	And so we had met on the streets in Hongde.
	I don't know if you guys have been to Korea, but there's like a street.
	It's really popular for like clubs, people shop, walking.
	Okay, you met there?
	What happened?
	And then we didn't meet there.
	He just like he asked my friends out on the street.
	So he went up to my friend, thought she was pretty, asked her out, and then she was scared to go on a date with him because he was a random guy on the street.
	And so then you went on the date with him.
	So she asked me, Ivy, can you and Manami, which is her Japanese roommate, can you two girls come with me on the date?
	So it's one guy and we only met on the day before and it was three girls.
	And then during that day, or it wasn't a day, it was like a hangout then.
	He like picked us up from our school.
	We were studying at Yonze.
	And then he took us to this really beautiful pasta restaurant in Yongnandong.
	And then, yeah, it was really nice.
	And then we actually hit off really well because he studied at UIUC.
	So it's like, you know, a college in the States.
	He studied abroad most of his life.
	So he spoke fluent English.
	And so I think that's why we hit it off because he's like, oh, I haven't used this much English in so long.
	And then at the time, I was actually dating a guy in LA.
	It was like this Korean chef that didn't speak English.
	And so, yeah, it was pretty bad.
	But then I started to like him.
	And then I broke up with my boyfriend out dating in LA to date that guy.
	And yeah, from the minute we met to us dating, it took us like a week.
	And we went on a trip with all our friends to Busan.
	And then, yeah, it was a pretty good time for a while, but we fought a lot.
	And then the breakup story, oh, I'm ADHD at the time.
	I always get so much details.
	Okay, the end of the story.
	Yeah, sorry.
	I just kind of checked out there after like 20 irrelevant details.
	So, um, what do you get so many details?
	You met him in the street in Korea and then so wait a second, Brian.
	I was very interested in what the streetlights were there.
	Who is there?
	What the color is.
	You're a good girl.
	I do the same shit.
	Do you have ADHD?
	Yeah, that's why I was a school teacher.
	It fit me.
	So I tell like very vivid details.
	Wait, you were a school teacher?
	I used to work in a school in Oakland.
	Yeah.
	You taught children thing?
	I taught like 120 kids.
	I was a seventh grade teacher.
	Yeah.
	English teacher.
	And then I went to San Francisco too.
	So I lived in the Bay before I moved back to LA.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So this is thank you.
	Yeah.
	So this is all before I became a teacher.
	And then, yeah, so I guess me and that guy, we kind of knew it was like eventually like going to be long distance because I had to go back to America where I had the teaching job lined up.
	But yeah, we tried to like make things where we hung out every single day.
	It was a very intense relationship.
	But it only lasted a month because towards the end, I was like, oh, you know, he said, it'll be cute.
	We got a dog together.
	So I'll take care of him while you're gone in the States.
	I was like, oh, yeah, that's a cute idea.
	So we went to the premium pet store and we saw a dog.
	And the dog was like $600.
	It was a cute little palm spit.
	And I really loved it.
	We named it like Douchik at the time.
	Well, I mean, and it, of course, was really tiny.
	One of those like dogs.
	Yeah, one of those fluffy white dogs.
	I love fluffy white dogs.
	I freaking love them.
	And so.
	And you gave Aon and you gave it a Zaney name, didn't you?
	Yeah, Tushik.
	I don't even know what it means to this day.
	Because he chose that name.
	I don't know what that name means.
	And so it was a really cute dog.
	But then basically, he was living with a roommate.
	Like, not roommate, like they lived in the same room, but like they had like it was a two-bedroom, right?
	And his movie was like, oh, I actually don't like having Ivy over all the time.
	And at the time, I was living in the dorms in Korea.
	And so I can't have guests over and I can't have a dog either.
	So I thought myself.
	Yo, this is really funny.
	Go ahead.
	And so the roommate was.
	So the roommate was like, oh, can she not come over anymore?
	And I was like, I'm literally going to leave back to the state soon.
	So I don't know why he cares.
	And also, I bought you guys a dog so I should like be able to come out and see the dog.
	And so he fought with me about that, saying, Oh, I can't do anything about that.
	It's like my roommate.
	And so I told him, Can you just man up a little bit?
	And then he got really upset.
	And I kind of like compared him to my ex-boyfriend, which is like not good on my part.
	And it's so funny because the entire time we were on the drive up to Nansan Tower to do like a love lock.
	I don't know if you guys know what that is, but it's like, oh, we've been a relationship, like series.
	Like, oh, it's like cute.
	You just go up and you lock it in.
	And then we were going to do that.
	And so on the way up, we got into a fight.
	And so he was like, I'm just going to drop you off at your dorm.
	And then on the way drive back, we stopped on the streets at Shinchung.
	And so.
	Man, I don't want to interrupt your story, but I just wanted to let you know I'm eating some of my daughter's birthday cake and you can't have any.
	I really love cake.
	Happy birthday.
	Happy, happy birthday.
	Can you say the following?
	Say the following.
	This one time at Bandcamp.
	No.
	And I actually was in Bandcamp too.
	This one happened.
	I did color guard.
	I did color guard.
	I am.
	I did colour guard here.
	Oh, it was travel typing.
	No, I was in the color guard, color guard.
	Color guard.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Why?
	Wait, hold on.
	I got to get into this.
	You did color guard red flag.
	Wait, why?
	Massive red flag.
	Oh, it wasn't like a snake.
	Probably were carrying around a red flag too.
	Oh, yeah, my buck was over.
	See?
	It was because we were doing like some like this show.
	What's it called?
	The theme was like.
	Were you the flag carrier?
	Well, you know, every girl has a flag.
	Oh, that's duh.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's skill.
	You can't twist that skill.
	I wasn't trying to.
	That wasn't like a, what's the word for that?
	No, it is actually a red flag, though.
	Yeah, it was a red color fly.
	And my costume was all red.
	It's a red flag.
	Wait, I don't know.
	I don't think I'm a red flag.
	It's like theater.
	It's like one step removed from theater.
	And that's a red flag.
	But that, well, you don't want to.
	If you heard my list of red flags, that's like 70% of like everybody.
	But huh?
	Can we hear some of them?
	Cheerleader.
	Yeah, I have a list.
	Hold on, I'll pull it up.
	We'll come right back to your story.
	Hopefully, we can finish it before the end of the show.
	I don't know why.
	What makes you feel like it's a red flag?
	There's just certain interests where I'm like, you know.
	Like guided meditation.
	How many red flags had you overlooked me further out?
	Oh, I don't know.
	For you?
	That's a red flag?
	Okay, here's some red flags.
	Any of that goofy ass hippie cult shit is always a red flag.
	It's always like on an interpersonal journey to heal my trauma from the time that my dog was kidnapped by my ex-boyfriend's best friend.
	And I mean, I played my heart for decades.
	I'm never going to.
	It's like, oh, yeah, well, honestly, that's a lot of strength, you know, the fact that you're able to just not.
	But how about neuroscience?
	Do you fuck with science?
	Neuroscience?
	What?
	What's science?
	Like, the brain, the science of the brain.
	Do you fuck with the war, Andrew?
	Do you fuck with the war?
	Do you fuck with science, Andrew?
	I do be fucking around with a little bit of neurosis.
	Wait, Andrew, but aren't you, Andrew?
	Aren't you?
	Do you believe that?
	You have to apply the proper controls.
	Actually, yeah.
	Anyway, all right.
	Anyways, anyways, red flags, whatever.
	You want to hear my red flags?
	Yeah, I want to hear some of them.
	Okay, pit bull owner.
	Okay.
	Pit bull.
	Maybe a pit bull apologist.
	So you don't own a pit bull, but you're just like, it's the owner.
	It's not the breed.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	No, they're dangerous dogs.
	Bell bottoms.
	Red flag.
	Bed bottom.
	I mean, this is for, I mean, this isn't even a red flag.
	I would just walk out.
	If she looks at her phone on the first date, like, if it's, it's okay if it's like this.
	Because some people take it like, oh, really?
	No, it's like, if she's like, hey, sorry, I just got to text my mom that I'm here.
	Or, you know, something like that, that's cool.
	But if she's like scrolling on Snapchat, scrolling on Instagram, I'm literally, I've done this on a date.
	I won't even say anything.
	I'll just get up and walk.
	I'm not going to, I'm not going to say anything to you.
	I'm not going to be like, yo, what are you doing on your phone?
	I'm not trying to have an argument for you.
	You've already demonstrated that you're fucking rude.
	I ain't dealing with it.
	Goodbye.
	It was nice knowing you.
	So I'm just two times, actually.
	And the girls are pissed off afterward.
	Oh my God, that was so rude.
	I'm like, you were on your phone.
	Right.
	Yeah, well, I mean, it displays that they're not interested.
	Like, if you have to scroll through your phone, you're scrolling through Instagram or something.
	Unless you were having a conversation.
	Like, oh, I have a, like, I have a Belgium almond, for example.
	And, like, I would always kind of use that as a talking point on a date.
	And I'll be like, oh, like, yeah, I could show you a photo.
	I mean, that's a little different.
	But if you just blank out on the date and you're like scrolling and I'll give you some more of them.
	Van Leifer.
	She does Van Life.
	I would agree.
	That's a red flag.
	If she does acro-yoga, red flag.
	Just acro-yoga or all yoga?
	That's Van Yoga.
	Acro yoga.
	Because that's when they're doing that shit with a dude.
	Yeah.
	I don't like that.
	I don't like that.
	Let's see here.
	Hairstylist, works in HR, flight attendant, travel nurse.
	Any career where she travels frequently, pharmaceutical sales because they're traveling a ton and fucking doctors, flirting with doctors so they can add conflict resolution management conflict CRM conflict resolution like HR HR can be a type of job that does conflict resolution management,
	but a teacher does it for resolution have been adding conflict resolution resolution managers to make sure that their employees can resolve conflicts.
	Got it.
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	Oh, what else?
	Let's see.
	Oh, then, and then some tattoos don't mind, but no offense, Brenda.
	Sternum tattoo.
	Red flag.
	Wait, what tattoo?
	Sternum tattoo.
	You have a sternum piece.
	Oh, I do.
	You have a sternum piece.
	That's my first one, too.
	Me too.
	Oh, okay.
	I looked at her shirt.
	Red flag.
	Red flag.
	Let's see.
	Spider, any spider web tattoos, especially on the if they have spider web tattoo on the elbow, that yeah, that be careful there.
	Or a spider tattoo or a snake tattoo.
	Those are usually a little.
	And any snake tattoo enjoyers here?
	Havers.
	And I think that's pretty much it.
	Is having a cat a red flag?
	I feel like that's a red flat.
	No, I like cats.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	I like dogs and cats.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, it's okay.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	So your guy stole $3,000 and stole your dog.
	What happened?
	Did she already finish the story?
	I just kind of teamed it up.
	I know it takes me a long time to tell stories.
	It takes me a long time to tell stories.
	That's why I don't usually.
	But did you get to the part about the $3,000 and?
	I was getting to it.
	It was almost there.
	I have to give a backstory.
	Like, you know, you got to understand who they are and how you met them before you to be involved in the story.
	Where do we emphasize the last thing we say?
	You're a hater.
	Oh, come on.
	There's funny.
	Do I talk weird?
	I know.
	Why are you laughing?
	Wait, Daniel, play the YouTube thing.
	Play the YouTube thing.
	Wait, you know what?
	I think this is the appropriate time.
	We're not going to pull up the video.
	Okay, just, you know what?
	Pull up the video.
	Fuck it.
	Pull up the video.
	The video.
	Not the TikTok, okay?
	You know, the YouTube video.
	Yeah, we're going to.
	This is not dating related.
	Actually, you know what?
	It is dating related.
	It is dating related.
	Go ahead.
	Nails some.
	No, but I like to hang out with my family.
	A lot of hang out with my sister.
	So go get our nails done.
	Any ladies in here, get your nails done?
	Nice.
	Honest crowd.
	How about any guys?
	Any guys down from Annie Petty?
	Don't lie.
	Sir, don't lie.
	Don't lie.
	I can see your nail polish gleaming in the lights right now.
	Don't lie.
	It's all sparkly.
	You take him with you, huh?
	Yeah, see?
	She ratted you out, dude.
	I'm just kidding.
	I'm just kidding.
	No, me and my sister, we go over.
	It's a place called Beautiful Nail.
	I was kind of confused when I first read the sign, though.
	Beautiful nail.
	Just one.
	Just one nail.
	Do I get to pick which one?
	Now, with these ladies, they're so nice.
	You know, they make you feel like it's all about you and customer service.
	You know, whatever you lie, we do for you.
	I am getting these two.
	What the heck?
	Really nice, yeah.
	As soon as I walk in, they greet me right away.
	Hi, honey.
	What you need to like?
	Oh, um, can I get my nails done?
	Okay, honey, do you lie, pedicure, too?
	Uh, no, no, just my nails.
	Honey, why you don't lie?
	Pedicure, it may look nice.
	It's so sexy.
	It's better for you.
	Oh, all right, sure, then I'll get a pedicure too.
	Thanks.
	Okay, honey, sit down.
	I'm gonna sick.
	My ling, she do for you.
	Good job.
	I'm only $20 a month.
	That's okay, sit down.
	Oh, okay, thanks.
	So my Ling starts doing my nails right away.
	By the way, her American name is Tammy.
	Tammy.
	I'm having a friend.
	Wow.
	No, no, I don't have a boyfriend.
	Honey, why you don't have you look so pretty?
	Like, Mono.
	Chiolita, something pretty.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why.
	Okay, just fuck it.
	Yeah.
	She did a great job.
	Yeah.
	I hope she's Vietnamese.
	Is she Vietnamese?
	I think that's really weird that she got the accent.
	Do you know how to do that?
	Wait, wait, wait, hang on.
	She's feeling dead.
	Can we just acknowledge the fact that there was a female comedian up there?
	And when she was done, you didn't say she was funny.
	You said she did a great job.
	Has anybody in the history of the world ever walked away from a comedy show and been like, well, yeah, they did a great job.
	I've never heard that once.
	Oh, really?
	I think some of my friends are comedians.
	They were hilarious.
	They were super funny.
	We were dying laughing.
	I've heard all that.
	I've never heard.
	They did a great job.
	No, it's because I understand how comedy works.
	Some of my friends work as comedians.
	So I see the way she wrote her joke and the way she paused.
	I'm like, oh, that was a really good job.
	She scripted it really well.
	And then her accent, like her voices, I think that she portrayed that character really well as well.
	So I just look at her.
	To be fair, we didn't finish the whole bit because it was.
	There was more.
	Yeah, there was more.
	It was.
	I'm sure it would have gotten way funnier if you would have just let it go.
	Yeah, probably.
	But Andrew, you weren't a fan.
	It sounds like you didn't think it was very funny.
	You said it was funny.
	I thought it was hilarious.
	I was laughing the whole time.
	Her accent is good.
	Can anybody.
	She did a great job, Brian.
	We get used to.
	We did the lady.
	My nails were done by a Vietnamese lady in Vietnam.
	Wait, I just came back from Vietnam yesterday.
	Oh, from yesterday.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	Rock and roll.
	Okay, well.
	I have no idea why I pulled that up.
	I think you said, because I sound like that.
	Is that why?
	No.
	No.
	It was Andrew's fault.
	Andrew told me to pull it up.
	Andrew told me that.
	Andrew sent me the video.
	Andrew sent me the video.
	He's like, Brian, play this right now.
	Because he was commenting about your voice.
	People comment about that.
	My students in Oakland were like, Miss Ivy, you sound like you have a list.
	You sound like you have an Asian accent.
	I always get I have an Asian accent, but I was born in America.
	Yep, like a little, like a little bit.
	A little bit.
	I think the past few years I spent more time in Asia than in the States.
	So I think I adapted their nutrition.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, let's see.
	Okay, here.
	Stole your dog.
	$300,000.
	No, $3,000.
	Imagine $300,000.
	Oh, sorry.
	$3,000, my bad.
	Oh, my God.
	How did he steal the dog?
	Was it just like you couldn't have it at your apartment?
	So he ended up ultimately taking it.
	Like I had my dog really stolen, like really went to domestic violence for the day.
	Let's just have her tell the story.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, that's true.
	Actually, I guess, you know, on paper, it was technically his dog because he was Korean.
	So he put the dog under his name.
	And then we were on the street.
	So he was like, I'm going to drop you out for your dorm.
	And I told him, no, don't drop me out of my dorm.
	Drop me off at this cafe.
	And so it's a cafe next to our college.
	And my friend was waiting for me already there.
	The girl that he had originally asked out on, right?
	Here, I'm just gonna, okay, I'm gonna just ask questions so that we can get to the bottom of the story.
	I was almost done.
	No, no, no.
	How long were you guys?
	I was doing a great job, Brian.
	Yeah, I think I was doing a good job.
	How long were you guys dating?
	A little over a month.
	Okay, and so you guys bought a dog together?
	Technically, I paid for all of it.
	You paid for the dog?
	Okay, but it was in his name.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	You guys were dating for a month and you bought a dog together?
	Yeah, I really liked him at the time.
	The guy put it.
	How does one put a dog in their name?
	Okay, but have you guys ever dated a Korean guy?
	They're very fast.
	They move very fast and they're very emotional.
	Were you guys living together?
	No, as it happens, neither myself nor Brian have dated Korean guys.
	Yeah, it's like, you know, like, I hate to say it, but it's like very similar to those like movies that you see.
	Like, they'll say a lot of stuff and they'll do a lot for you.
	But anyways, we weren't living together, but we basically worked.
	I was kind of staying with him every day at his end of the day.
	How much was the dog?
	It was like $600.
	And then whose idea was it to it was his idea.
	He was like, oh, it'll be cute.
	We got a dog.
	I was like, oh my God, yeah, I've always wanted a dog.
	And so that's why.
	Okay, so you paid for it.
	And then, so you, but you guys broke up or whatever.
	It was a really bad breakup.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean bad?
	Oh, a little over a month.
	When you say it was a really bad breakup, what do you mean?
	Like, I've never been so heartbroken.
	Like, my friends were like, you're going crazy, Ivy.
	I was kind of going crazy.
	Yeah.
	I like.
	When you say you were going crazy, what were you doing?
	Just like, I think every day, just like crying a lot.
	I think that's crazy to me.
	And the breakup he initiated it?
	No, basically, like, I would say at the time I was still young.
	So when he had done that to me, where he just dropped me off, I have this, like, back then, I don't have it now.
	I have this toxic trick where if they do something bad to me, I immediately block their number.
	Like, even though we didn't break up yet.
	So we didn't break up.
	He just said, like, oh, just, I'm going to drop you off.
	And then he took the dog.
	I was like, wait, today's like my day with the dog.
	I'm going to take her.
	But he just, like, you know, he's pretty strong.
	So my friend and him were actually fighting.
	So my best friend and him were fighting together for the dog.
	He took it.
	And then she ran after him.
	He was driving actually.
	And she actually ran after him.
	She's a very, very good friend.
	And then she got into his car.
	She actually opened the door so hard that she slammed his window thing against the pole.
	And he got really mad.
	And then, yeah, but then she told me, like, oh, he'll be back later.
	He'll talk to you.
	And I said, oh, I don't want to talk to him ever again after what he did.
	So I blocked him.
	And then he tried to call me, text me, but I still blocked him.
	Sure.
	How did he steal $3,000?
	So that was like two weeks after the breakup.
	Yeah.
	Okay, how did he, how did he do it?
	So there was a period of time, like maybe like a week, we just went without talking.
	But like every day, we'll kind of like text each other, like, oh, hi, like, something like that.
	And then one day he was like, oh, can we meet out?
	I was like, yeah, sure.
	And he was like, oh, I'm going through something.
	I was like, what's up?
	And he's like, can we like meet up in person?
	And then, yeah, so he, we went to his car, picked him from the dorm.
	And then he was like, oh, I have like this large credit card bill.
	And like, I can't take money out of my bank account.
	And I was like, I felt bad because, you know, yeah, at the time I was making quite a bit of money in Korea.
	So I was like, oh, how much do you need?
	He's like, oh, this much.
	Oh, yeah.
	I have that in my purse right now.
	And then just cat, you had $3,000 in cash?
	Yeah, in my purse.
	Oh, this is like in Korean money.
	So it's like $3,000.
	It's $3,000.
	So it is $3,000 equivalent in Korean money, which is just like maybe $4.5 million.
	Yeah, $4,000.
	Yeah, four million.
	What's the name of the currency?
	Won.
	Wan, Korean Wan.
	Okay.
	But so converted, it's 3,000 USD.
	Okay, and you just had that in your purse, and this was in Korea.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And we were in this car, and then I was like, oh, yeah.
	And then I was thinking about it for a bit.
	I was like, what do exactly you use it for?
	He just said, I'm paying off my credit card bill.
	I'll pay you back when my brother goes to college and he'll Venmo you.
	And I was like, okay, yeah, because I know both of the brothers they studied abroad and stuff.
	So I know that they're good for it.
	And then, yeah, he just took it.
	And then I reminded him a couple months later when I was back in the bay.
	Wait, really quick.
	For the rest of the show, can you eat whatever the question is, and you're like about to tell a story?
	I want you to start the story by saying this one time at Bandcamp.
	So I interrupted it, so we'll do the interso.
	So say this one time at Bandcamp and now continue on with the story.
	But this didn't happen.
	No, you have to do it.
	I know, but just you just have to do it.
	I'm sorry.
	Just do it.
	Go, Say it.
	This one time at Band Camp.
	That's it.
	Yeah, but say it for real.
	No, this is my time.
	This one time?
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	This one time at Bandcamp and then continue with your story.
	This one time at Bandcamp.
	Okay, keep going.
	And then to keep going with the story, yeah.
	I left Korea and then I never saw him again since then.
	And I never saw the money.
	And I hear to this day that he uses the dog to pick up other girls on the streets.
	Yeah.
	So, wait, a couple things here.
	So from the day that you gave him the money, and then how soon after did you leave?
	I left maybe a month after.
	And did he tell you he was going to pay you back?
	Yeah, of course.
	He said, I'm going to pay back.
	I wouldn't have given it to him if he did.
	And did you ask him?
	I asked him many times to pay me back.
	Even after you came back to the USA?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I called him.
	No, we got into a call.
	It was really cute.
	I was in San Mateo.
	I was like in San Mateo.
	Why does it matter?
	You could have been in fucking Antarctica.
	It doesn't matter where you were.
	But okay.
	My friend tells me that.
	She's like, Ivy, like when you do your video sometimes, you start off with the time in the place, and no one cares.
	What, what, what, was it autumn or fall?
	Wait, that's the same.
	Fall, this was fall.
	Oh, it was fall?
	Okay.
	So it was September.
	What was the temperature?
	It was like 8 p.m. that day.
	What was the temperature?
	Was it chilly?
	It was a chilly San Francisco fall day.
	What color were his socks that day?
	Yeah.
	What did you have for lunch on that?
	I had salmon with my face.
	But so, okay.
	You called him.
	I don't know.
	I did.
	We got into a call.
	So basically, my friend had threatened him.
	She texted him saying that, like, if you don't reply to Ivy or if you don't give her back her money, then I'm going to tell all your friends something what you did.
	And then he was like, okay, so he actually called me back.
	He messaged me in Kaka Talk and was like, oh, Ivy, let's talk.
	And then we got into Cakau Talk and we called each other.
	And it was really fun.
	We talked for like two hours.
	We laughed.
	He said, oh, I'm going to pay you back and all that stuff.
	And I was like, awesome.
	And then, yeah, I followed up with him a year after that.
	He didn't.
	And actually, a year after that, I went back to Korea with the new guy I was dating.
	So I was dating this new guy and they had the same last name.
	And then I told him, I told my ex, I was like, I'm back in Korea and here.
	If you can give me the money, that would be great.
	And he was like, yeah, let me get it to you.
	And then he just ghosted me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's what happened.
	That, damn.
	But my mom said that there's karma.
	And so she said that you shouldn't worry about that because you didn't get him.
	Well, I mean, but hold on.
	When it comes to the dog, you were in Korea, but you knew with intention you were going back to the United States, right?
	Yeah.
	So it seems like it was.
	Well, hold on.
	I mean.
	I wasn't take the dog with me to America.
	It's so hard to import pets in and out of the country.
	I just tried to do this in Australia and it's literally insane.
	They had services.
	It costs like $10,000 per pet.
	They have to be quarantined.
	Same thing in America for like 30 days.
	It's so stressful.
	It's really hard.
	I honestly, so okay, here's my assessment.
	Yeah.
	The dog thing, yeah, you paid for it, but like you, you bought it in his country.
	It's his dog.
	And it was, it was his idea.
	Were you gonna, you were gonna pay to have the dog flown?
	It's so they have like puppy carrier services.
	So a lot of a lot of families in America, like a lot of Korean families, they import the dog from Korea.
	It's really easy.
	Regardless of what, okay.
	Could you afford that for like 10 grand?
	No, it's a it's one thousand.
	It's one thousand dollars.
	You could have just bought a new dog.
	Completely more sensitive.
	You bought movie dogs.
	Stop, You bought the dog for $600.
	Why would you ship?
	I mean, look, I know you get it.
	You had the dog for like a couple weeks.
	You could just buy a new dog.
	I know, but this dog was really cute.
	What?
	Yeah.
	It's a pump spit.
	And it was really quiet.
	So, like, I don't know all the dogs that in the town, like, this one didn't bark.
	Okay, cool.
	So.
	Did you like bomb with it, though?
	You just said it was really cute.
	If I lost my dog, I would be distraught.
	She's like my best.
	Yeah, this was two years ago.
	I was.
	That's why I said it was really bad for me.
	I lost a lot of weight.
	My friends were like, oh, Ivy, you seem like pretty.
	Yeah, I was like half the size I was now, basically.
	So, okay.
	So, okay, the dog thing, whatever.
	The 3,000, I think you're in the right there.
	You loaned him the money.
	He said he would pay you back.
	He should pay you back.
	That's wrong.
	He didn't steal it from you, though.
	No, you have, no, he didn't, but you said he stole your dog and the 3K.
	I think it's a solid way to say it.
	I don't think he stole the dog.
	There's a dispute, a civil dispute.
	Hold on, I'm just going to ask you.
	There's a civil dispute over the dog.
	There's a civil dispute over the 3,000.
	If he went into your purse and took the money out of your purse, that would be stealing 3,000.
	Civilly, I think he would, if you went in front of a court or something, he would owe you $3,000.
	You loaned him money.
	He either isn't able to or is unwilling to pay it back.
	I don't think that that's theft or stealing.
	I am a little confused, though, on the dog front, despite your feelings towards him and the love bombing or whatever it was, why you would purchase a dog with somebody with the intention of like wanting to keep it, knowing that you were leaving the country in one month's time.
	That's a little bit confusing to me.
	You probably, I mean, this guy maybe does this to other women, though.
	This could be like a Tinder swindler sort of thing.
	Like, do you think?
	You know what's so funny is that you mentioned that because the day after he asked my friend out, she swiped on Tinder and she saw him on Tinder.
	Wow.
	Do you consider yourself a bit naive?
	I think I take good care of myself.
	I don't think so.
	I don't consider myself naive.
	Just but people might say, people might say, I don't have a consensus.
	Like if I was in a foreign country, it wasn't that foreign to me because I went there so much.
	You're Vietnamese, right?
	I'm American.
	Vietnamese American Vietnamese Chinese American.
	Right, but you don't have citizenship in Korea.
	No, I don't.
	Do you have citizenship in Vietnam or no?
	No, I don't.
	Okay.
	And I was living there too.
	Okay.
	I think citizenship doesn't matter.
	There's people that have American citizenships and they wouldn't say they're American.
	But I mean, you had a plan.
	You were coming back to the United States.
	I don't think you loan, like if you're about to leave a country, I don't think you give somebody $3,000.
	Oh, not to leave.
	Yeah.
	He said he was on a Venmo bag.
	I have a question about the dog.
	Would you still have been upset about it if he gave you back the $3,000 and said, listen, I really want to keep the dog?
	Like, I was the one that wanted the dog.
	The dog, I don't know, boy girl.
	She, it, he, I don't know, lives with me.
	I will give you $3,600 to let the dog go.
	Would you have said it?
	I just told him if you can keep the dog if you want, just like, you know, give me the $600.
	And he couldn't.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I'm very reasonable.
	How, be honest, though.
	How often were you harassing him?
	Oh, I was not a good girlfriend.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	I will say, yeah, I wasn't like a good girlfriend back then.
	Because, like, I think that he promised me a lot of stuff.
	So I was like, oh, since you promised this, you know, I can demand it.
	I was kind of like that.
	So I was a little behind maintenance.
	But were you like with the whole dog thing, the $3,000?
	Even like, I imagine you were blowing up his phone.
	Oh.
	Sending him messages.
	Fuck you.
	Like, oh, no, no, no.
	I don't do that.
	No, no, no.
	I don't say me messages.
	I think those things can be like, yeah, I don't know if that blow up.
	All right, we have a chat here from Jason.
	Oh, my God.
	Who the hell cares Chair for?
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Jason Cassell, thank you for the 100 men.
	I do really appreciate the message.
	Thank you so much.
	We have Stiffler.
	Ask.
	Actually, yeah, that's fine.
	Ask everyone.
	Oh, no.
	I have to wait until she's back.
	One moment.
	One moment there.
	Oh, we have.
	Hold on.
	Oh, damn.
	This guy sent it in three.
	Wait, hold on.
	Sorry for the delays on this.
	Penny's donated $200.
	What is bro yapping about right now?
	Is that me yapping?
	I'm not sure.
	I think you're the bro.
	Yeah.
	I do like it.
	Peanuth.
	Guys, W is in the chat for Peanut.
	Oh, no.
	Oh.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, he got me.
	Peanut?
	Oh, yeah, this man rapping.
	Dude, bro.
	He sent it in three times.
	What is bro yapping about?
	What is Peanut?
	Peanuts Peanut.
	Peanuts.
	Peonies.
	Penis.
	Oh, my God.
	Unbelievable.
	Oh, I am.
	Frickin' he.
	What a trickster, Peanut.
	He got me.
	Okay, let me shout out people on Venmo and Cash App really quick.
	Yo, Anna, thank you so much for the $10 on Venmo.
	Thank you so much.
	Jeffrey Chong, thank you for the 25.
	What is bro yapping about?
	How do they have this much money?
	Thank you, Penis.
	I know, right?
	They got crypto pumps and stuff.
	Yo, Joffrey Chong, thank you for the 25.
	W's in the chat for Joffrey Lannister.
	And then Cash App, MC Rocker.
	Thank you for the 10 man.
	Colin, thank you for the 20.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	All right, Venmo Cash App.
	If you want 100% of your patronage and contribution, go to the whatever podcast, whatever pod on there.
	Links in the description.
	Read 100, TTS200.
	Guys, like the video if you can.
	All right.
	I do have to wait for that one really quick.
	So I'll just do a quick note from somebody else here.
	While.
	Does anybody here have plastic surgery?
	Fake boobs.
	Lip filler.
	I have lip filler.
	Lip filler.
	Lip filler.
	I wanted to.
	My lips are uneven.
	I want to say that plastic surgery, though, because it dissolves after like six to twelve months.
	Okay.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	You cannot pick seven.
	Rate your own looks on a scale of one to ten, starting with you.
	Brenda, go ahead.
	Like an eight.
	Eight?
	Okay.
	I think that's a really objective question.
	I know this is a long-winded answer for something that revolves, like, and should just be short, but objectively compared to what?
	Like, there's women that have plastic surgery that don't really look like that in Miami who are objectively tens, but if they didn't have that plastic surgery, they'd be a five.
	So, like, there's this joke where I live.
	I live in a very small town, and the joke is like for that small town, they're a nine, but if you put them in Miami, they'd be a four.
	So it's like the entirety of the United States.
	So like this encompasses media.
	So, it's not just who you can visually see in person, but who you've been exposed to your entire life in the media, in print, in journalism.
	You saw a beautiful woman on the front of a magazine cover.
	You saw her on a TV show.
	You got a celebrity crush, an athlete, whatever it is.
	It's encompassing media, but I'm primarily just looking at the United States because there's people always oh, okay, so it includes like plastic surgery and girls who have like pinched and photoshopped.
	Well, I mean, the thing is with plastic surgery, if you ask men of their assessment of women with plastic surgery, I think it actually lowers their ranking.
	So, this idea that, oh, okay, she has giant fake titties, I think she's worse looking.
	I would agree with you.
	So, I think it's just, I guess, your own assessment and then what you think men would rate you on average.
	Okay.
	No, how about just your own assessment?
	Let's just do that.
	An eight.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Seven.
	Into the mic assumption.
	I like the number seven.
	Seven.
	Into the mic, guys.
	I can't pick seven.
	I just can't.
	I can't pick seven.
	Okay, eight.
	Okay.
	Ivy?
	I think if you putting that standard, I would say six.
	Sorry, if you what was using that standard, I would say I'll rate myself like a six.
	What other standard do you use?
	Oh, you said the standard where you're comparing yourself to other people in the media.
	Like, if you look at like Jenny Rose, like, what the heck?
	I can't.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	Still six.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Eight.
	Six.
	Six point nine.
	Six point nine.
	That's good.
	I give myself a five.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Four, probably.
	Four.
	Wow.
	Well, once again, Andrew, I am probably one of the best connections in the modeling industry.
	I've gathered a remarkably attractive panel today.
	So there's.
	Yes, the most beautiful women who exist on planet Earth seem to always find themselves in their way to the whatever podcast.
	And we know this because we asked them.
	So we know for sure.
	No tens, though.
	So, I mean, that's could be worse.
	A lot of eights.
	A lot of eights.
	But not tens.
	I mean, tens.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, honestly, I don't really.
	Honestly, unless somebody says nine or ten, I don't really feel like if they give themselves an eight, it's not that bad, right, Andrew?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	And they said we can't pick seven.
	Like, I'm not going to debate the rating question if they, unless it's like a nine or a ten, you know?
	But maybe Andrew's a little more less forgiving than I am.
	Well, I just am wondering, very briefly, do raise your hand if you agree with all the girls' answers.
	If you agree?
	Yeah, yeah.
	If you agree with all the girls' assessments, I heard six.
	Six is above average on a scale of one.
	Wait, so Andrew's question is: just raise your hand.
	If you like, you agree with like all the girls were spot on with their assessment.
	Oh, you're why are you shaking your head?
	Who's wrong?
	Who's wrong?
	Especially you said that six.
	Okay, hang on, hang on.
	Before you say that, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, before you say that.
	Raise your hand if the girls should have rated themselves higher.
	If you think the girls should have rated themselves higher, I mean.
	Yeah, you think they should have.
	Raise your hand if you think the girls should have rated themselves lower.
	Okay.
	Anyone else?
	You?
	Okay.
	So you, chair two, which ones should have rated themselves lower?
	Do I have to answer that?
	Got it.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	So, can I start on a positive note and then a negative?
	I think that you're objectively an eight or a nine, especially.
	You don't look like you have any work done.
	You rated yourself under a seven.
	Men, I think, would have a lot of men watching this would rate you near the top of this panel.
	So I think that you giving yourself a 6.9 was very humble, but I think deep down too, you know, you're not a 6.9.
	I would have rated you lower than an 8.
	She's wearing a wig.
	She's wearing a wig.
	What was that?
	She's wearing a wig.
	What would you have rated her?
	A five or a six.
	Mean.
	Now, for you, who just got rated a five or a six, mean, what would you rate her?
	I mean, like a six?
	I kind of, I guess she rated herself an eight.
	A little lower.
	Rated you a little lower, too.
	But then, didn't you raise your hand and say that you thought the girls should have rated themselves higher?
	There were some people that, like, I thought she was.
	Hang on, I'm sorry, not you.
	The gal I was just speaking to.
	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to go.
	I actually forgot everybody rated themselves.
	Like, the number they chose.
	They should have rated themselves higher.
	Me?
	Yeah.
	I didn't say every single one should have rated themselves higher.
	I think specifically.
	Almost not the one who rated you lower, right?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to rate her lower just because she rated me lower.
	I kind of forgot everybody's numbers, but there are specific people that I would have chose to rate themselves higher.
	Okay.
	Which ones would you have chosen to rate themselves lower?
	Lower?
	Yeah.
	No one.
	No one?
	Then how could you call the woman who gave herself an eight a six?
	I said six because I forgot she didn't choose six.
	I thought that was the number she chose.
	Oh, okay.
	Strange.
	All right.
	That's all I had.
	Okay.
	I do.
	Actually, you know what?
	I want the panel to rate me.
	I will not be offended.
	You can give me a zero.
	I won't be upset.
	Will not be offended whatsoever.
	Don't pull any punches.
	Be brutally honest.
	I will not be upset.
	I won't insult you back or anything like that.
	I'll take it on the chin.
	Go ahead.
	Is it just off of looks?
	Just looks.
	Just looks.
	I mean, obviously, my personality is going to tank the rating.
	So that's why.
	Yeah.
	I have to just, I have to let my looks carry me.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Look me deep in the eyes when you say that.
	Well, the eyes actually bring the number up.
	Look me deep in the eyes when you say this.
	Seven.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Look into my soul when you say this.
	Go ahead.
	So you're like precisely my type, except for the fact that you're not balding yet.
	I have hair.
	But the facial, like the facial hair and everything, like the way that you have it, that is my type.
	I would give you an eight.
	Okay, I'll take it.
	7.7.
	7.7.
	She's a little nervous.
	7.7.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Go ahead, IG.
	Just because I don't really find like that.
	No, I just like, I only ever dated Asian guys.
	So that's why.
	I don't have like, I don't see people outside of like.
	No, you did any just a set.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I may be like a little bit lower.
	Maybe like six.
	Seven as well.
	Okay.
	Six.
	Six.
	Mary.
	I have, I can't even say the only person I think of is my boyfriend.
	Period.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Alina, I know you have a boyfriend, so whatever.
	I fast on rating.
	That's fine.
	Wait, hold on.
	So I have a question.
	Wait, wait, one question before yours, Angel.
	One question before yours.
	Going to you.
	Yeah.
	You said you're an eight.
	Yeah.
	And I'm a, you said six.
	You gave me a six.
	So just to be clear, you would be you're settling for me.
	What do you mean?
	Like you would be settling, like if we were to date, like you're doing me a favor.
	I just yeah, you're dating, you're dating down, right?
	I mean, I have settled, I have settled for guys that, like, and have dated guys that are like not what I would typically go for.
	So, I mean, I'm not sitting a wooden settlement.
	But I want you to look me deep in my eyes.
	I'm not, I'm gonna look at the camera though.
	Look me deep in my eyes from the side and say, Brian, you fucking Uggo.
	I'm settling for you, you fucking mid.
	Say it.
	That's so mean.
	That is me.
	You can say it seductively.
	Don't do that.
	I have very thick skin content for a while.
	You have to have it.
	You should see my DMs.
	Like, they're really mean?
	Oh, yeah.
	People tell me that, like, they want to murder me.
	That's so mean.
	Is it men or women?
	No, I literally get death threats.
	So a girl telling me I'm mid is like the least of my worries.
	Death threats?
	Oh, yeah.
	What messages?
	I get death threats like every day.
	Okay.
	Men or women.
	Who do you get worse from?
	Mostly dudes.
	No, they're men.
	Really?
	But like a lot of girls do.
	Oh.
	Okay, go ahead.
	I'm ready.
	Call me.
	I'd fucking settle for you.
	You'd say.
	Wait.
	You would.
	That would be like the words that you asked for, right?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I forgot what I asked for.
	Wow.
	So would I have to.
	Wait, one last thing.
	So because you would be settling for me when it comes to our looks, like I'm just, I'm way too mid for you.
	Do you think that I would have to really make up for it?
	Like, if I wanted to land you, if I wanted to get you on a date and have some carnal knowledge, like I would have to, like, I would have to be really, like, I'd have to make up for it.
	So, like, really funny, really good personality, rich, right?
	Like, do I have to make up for it?
	My lack of commensurate physical attractiveness.
	Sorry, am I understanding your question right?
	Are you asking if you would have to make up for it in look-wise or both?
	No, he's saying, he's saying if he looks worse than you, objectively, by your standard, you're Nate, he's a six, wouldn't he need to compensate for his lack of looks with some other quality for you to like hypothetically, if you were single, to date me, right?
	So I would say no, that you wouldn't have to make up for it big time.
	I would have to make up for it big time.
	That you wouldn't have to make up for it big time.
	Not big time, but a little bit.
	A little time.
	Not big time.
	Big time.
	Big time.
	Little time.
	What would you rate Tom Brady?
	What would you rate Tom Brady?
	Five, just because he's not my type.
	Wait, what?
	Do you prefer?
	So you would be settling for Tom Brady?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Makes sense.
	Would you, is your type white, Latino, black?
	Do you have a Latino?
	Okay.
	Pluso Pluma.
	What's his name?
	Plaso Pluma?
	Peso Pluma.
	What do you rate Peso Pluma?
	Is he your type?
	Yeah, he's my type because he's light-complected.
	He's wait, what?
	What?
	Like, light-complected.
	Light-skinned Latino.
	Yeah, and that's my type.
	But I'd give him, I guess, like a an eight.
	Okay, so he's like league, like same league.
	Like that's a fair matchup, okay?
	Yeah.
	So you're just as good looking for a woman as he is for a man.
	Yeah.
	I'm trying to think of a hot.
	What about who's that guy who Joe Rogan beefed with?
	Carlos Mencia.
	Would you probably that's like beyond their dad?
	What?
	Carlos Mencia.
	Do you know who that is?
	He's an ugly fucker, though.
	I don't know.
	I'm just trying to think of famous Latino man.
	Okay, how about this?
	How about this?
	Who's in his prime, Antonio Banderas?
	Do you know who that is?
	Uh, a bit.
	I forgot how he looked at in his prime.
	Wait, who's like a is Johnny Depp bad bunny?
	I think he's white.
	Johnny Depp is white?
	Okay, how about this?
	How about an easier one?
	Yeah.
	Give us a famous actor who you think is who you're really attracted to, who you think is about equal in attractiveness to you.
	That's a good question, Andrew.
	Give us an actor.
	So, I don't know...
	I don't know his name exactly, but I know the band that he's a part of.
	Band?
	What's he?
	30 Seconds to Mars?
	Jared Ledo?
	No, I mean like a Hispanic band.
	El Gura.
	Okay.
	What's it called?
	Yeah, we'll find it.
	It's called Eslabon.
	E-S-L-A-B-O-N.
	E-S.
	And what does he play?
	What's his position?
	He's a singer.
	Singer of.
	It's just E-S.
	Eslabon Armado.
	Estabon.
	Es la bon.
	I don't speak Spanish, bro.
	Help me out.
	E-S-L-A-B-O-N.
	Eslabon.
	Eslabon.
	Pedro Tovar?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Pedro Tavar.
	Can you Google image him?
	Yeah.
	Big D?
	On the ones and twos?
	Pedro.
	I mean, why are we?
	I don't know.
	Oh, hey, wait, he's with Peso Pluma.
	Oh, yeah, they have a song together.
	You have it, Damien?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You got it?
	Nice man.
	Well, don't open the image.
	Just Google images whatever his name is.
	Okay.
	Pedro Tavar.
	I mean...
	That's him?
	Mm-hmm.
	I mean, he's not exactly a male model.
	I mean, those aren't really pictures of what I would specifically go for because those are old pictures.
	But yeah, that's him.
	You just really have a type.
	I do have a type.
	And I mean, y'all can look at him and be like, okay, well, he's overweight.
	But I mean, I've dated guys that, like, have some stomach to him.
	I mean, he cannot be all y'all's type and be like, eh, I'd rate that guy at five.
	Y'all can rate me all y'all's numbers that y'all want, but it's the level of type of confidence that I am.
	It's not just going based off of looks that I feel like I am, but going based off my personality that I know of myself.
	Yeah, but it's about the question's about looks.
	Yeah, it's out to me.
	It's about looks.
	I know, and I still stand at eight because, I mean, I know what I had to work on, and I mean, I think I'm beautiful, like, naturally.
	Wait, how about this?
	Well, what do you have to work on?
	Losing weight.
	What?
	And then, so I would guess then that when you lose the weight, I guess, from your perspective, you would then be a 10.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if it's like a weight issue, right?
	Because I feel like you don't.
	I didn't think it was about weight.
	I don't think you don't look overweight at all.
	Oh, okay.
	But no, I would recommend, like, I think that's why I would rate myself an 8.
	If it's a weight pop, you can get it like literally zapped out and you can just like look like a 10 tomorrow.
	When you lose weight, you lose weight in your face.
	So like your face doesn't.
	I got fucking.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	He's crying.
	So I was overweight.
	I was like almost 200 pounds and my face was like completely different.
	Wait, you used to be 200 pounds?
	Do you have a photo?
	When I was like 190?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But I don't have a lot of photos when I was like bigger.
	High school.
	Philip, would like to be a little bit more.
	Can I ask a question?
	You have a nice nose.
	Yes, ask a question.
	Who is a woman, anybody, celebrity influencer, or whoever, that you would consider a 10 right now?
	Like anyone?
	Anyone that you would, like, who, what woman do you consider a 10?
	It could be anybody.
	Megan Fox, bro.
	Yeah, like her too.
	So you're saying if you lost weight, that you think you would be on the same level as Megan Fox?
	I'm not saying I'd be at the same level, but what you're rating, you're saying if you lost weight, you'd be a 10.
	Because I'd be confident to be a 10 once I lose the weight.
	So I don't have to look the same as her.
	I don't have to be a weight.
	Well, you wouldn't look the same as her, but your appraisal of attractiveness, despite differences in look, obviously, you would be as attractive as her.
	Yeah, because I mean, it's about how I feel.
	Like, nobody else can feel that same way, but I mean, it's the type of level of confidence that I'll have when I'm a 10 to be like, okay, I'm just as pretty as her.
	She can have blue eyes, I can have brown eyes, and I can view myself in a different type of way.
	Do you think you would be able to attract the same kinds of men that Megan Fox can?
	I mean, no, because everybody has their own time.
	Yeah, like that.
	And I mean, it's clear that you're not seeing it in your eyes, and it's pretty obvious, but I'm not really looking for the approval of anybody here to be like, oh, yeah, no, I see what, like, or anybody that's viewing being like, oh, yeah, I would view you the same way that I would view like Megan Fox or whatever.
	I'm just asking you personally.
	Like, I know that doesn't matter.
	Like, I could go get $100,000 of plastic surgery, and I don't personally think that I would ever be on Megan Fox's level.
	But you're saying that if you just lost a little bit of weight, you would be the same levels of attractiveness as her.
	Not that you would look the same as her, but that you would be objectively to the world and to yourself to the same level that she is.
	And you would be the same number as her.
	I wouldn't look the same as her or be on the same level.
	I understand what you're saying.
	I'm just confused on like your gauge.
	That's all.
	Whoa, this is a real debate.
	I think it's just a number on, like, I'm not saying that you're not datable or you're not attractive.
	I just don't think, like, I don't think anybody on this panel, including myself, is on Megan Fox's level.
	And I don't think anything that they could really do would get them there.
	No, that's signed, but we're just moving.
	You can do anything.
	You can do anything with money.
	Do you see Lindsay Lohan?
	Lindsay Lohan?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	She changed.
	She changed a lot.
	Like, pathetic surgery, regenerative therapy is very, very good now.
	And then it's also, it's an argument of it's fake and it's a lie.
	And Megan Fox, I'm sure she's had a little bit of work done, but I don't think that she's changed her entire look or anything.
	We could also just say like young Megan Fox when she was like 20 or something.
	Oh yeah, she was a 10 then too.
	We don't even have to say like current Megan Fox.
	Like how do you compare to like prime Megan Fox?
	Not you.
	I'm just insane.
	Doesn't she still look like almost the same?
	No.
	I don't see any difference.
	It's crazy.
	You don't see any difference.
	I think Asian people.
	Like obviously she's aged, but I still see her as like a hot chip.
	Oh, I think a lot of people would say she's still very attractive, but I mean, I don't think if you put them together, I don't know.
	Is it because of her age?
	Like no, it's well, I mean, the age, there's a physical manifestation of her age that like she doesn't look as good as she did when she was younger.
	Before less makeup a little soft.
	So chair two.
	So then, Chair Two, what are the.
	Like, if you were to say to the guy we were just talking to about this, about the objective beauty standard, what are the things that you would say she would need to change to fit your criteria of a 10?
	Is that a question for me?
	Yeah, that's for you.
	Oh, okay.
	What?
	For her to be a 10?
	Yeah.
	She can't be a 10.
	No, he's asking, what can she change?
	Like, oh, like, you think that she changed something about her face?
	She can't physically possibly be a 10.
	I think you can do anything with plastic surgery.
	You can literally do anything.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I think that there's everybody here could do something to enhance their appearance.
	I don't, like, I don't really think that anybody here is going to be a 10.
	Nine, maybe.
	A 10 is.
	Keep in mind, a 10 is like basically unattainable.
	The top 0.5% of the world, maybe, maybe lower than that, is a 10.
	So I don't think that there's anything anybody on this panel is going to do to be a 10.
	There you go.
	Okay, we have Sharon, chair two and seven.
	Thank you for being honest.
	So tired of girls trying to protect girls that they just met feelings.
	This is why men are way more trustworthy than women.
	Sharon with the 100.
	That's chair two.
	And then chair seven, I believe.
	And then we have a message coming from Michael Jones.
	Thank you, man.
	Michael Jones donated $200.
	Chair six is delusional.
	Megan Fox is a 10.
	This chick is an adjustable five.
	Six after losing weight.
	Based chair two.
	Brian, you need to reel in these 304s.
	Also, hey, chair eight.
	What's up, Michael?
	You need a wink.
	Hey, Michael.
	All right, there it is.
	Thank you, Michael, for the TTS.
	Guys, W is in the chat for Michael Jones.
	Mike Jones, are you going to drop some more lyrics from that song?
	All right.
	Final thing on the rating thing.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	You're 24, better looking at 34.
	Fuck.
	Yes.
	Okay, better looking in 20 years' time at 44.
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 26.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time at 36?
	I think I'll be just really, I think I'll be just taking my dip for my peak, like down.
	Yeah, I don't think I'll be better looking at 36.
	I think I'll be on the on the downtrend.
	Okay.
	So not better looking at 46?
	No.
	Okay.
	But you'll be, you think you'll be a bit more attractive than you are now?
	At 30, probably.
	Okay.
	You're 33, better looking in 10 years' time at 43.
	43.
	Ooh.
	I'm going to enjoy my, you know, age the moment.
	I believe that I'm fine.
	So better looking at 43.
	A better looking.
	A better looking.
	To be honest, cannot guarantee, but I will try to, you know, keep this looking.
	Yeah, so just a yes, yes, or no.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay, 20 years' time, 53.
	53.
	Yeah.
	5'3.
	I'm not gonna, you know, like, but I'm not, no.
	Better looking, no.
	Okay, and then going back 10 years' time, were you better looking at 23 than you are now at 33?
	Oh, I love me looking right now.
	23, no.
	Okay, so better looking now, 33.
	Ivy, you're 23, better looking in 10 years' time, 33.
	Oh, I'm 24, but yes, I think at 34, yeah, I think I will be better looking at 34.
	Okay, and then 10 years, 20 years' time, excuse me, 24 to 44.
	Do you think you'll be better looking?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay, so 34, but then Bailey, you're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33.
	Yes.
	20 years' time, 43.
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 24, better looking in 10 years' time at 34.
	No.
	Okay, you're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33.
	No.
	Okay, Alina, you're 20, better looking at 30?
	Better, probably not.
	Okay.
	All right, there it is.
	Do we have the age and gender swaps?
	Just age for now.
	Okay, keep an eye out if there's any other batches or the gender swap.
	All right, guys, we've age-advanced you.
	Is it ready to go?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We've aged advanced all of you.
	I know some of you said no, some of you said yes, but let's take a look.
	Fucking shit.
	Oh my god.
	Whoa!
	Whoa, let's look old.
	You're cute.
	You're cute.
	I wasn't even pose.
	Okay, you're cute.
	You look fine in the first one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Next.
	Whoa.
	You know what?
	You look like that lady who smokes at like a let me hear the hold on, you gotta hear the rest at like not like a premiere casino, but like a casino in Reno.
	That's hilarious.
	Like that's where I would see you.
	My mom, my mom, is in her trailer park Grandma trailer park.
	I know, I know I do.
	I think I look just like my mother.
	My mother's had like no work done or anything and she's objectively incredibly attractive for her age.
	So I think if I age like her, I'll be all right.
	To your credit, the tits still look great.
	Oh yeah, no aging there.
	Do you know?
	My fiance wanted me to get fake ones.
	It was like a sticking point in our relationship.
	He wanted me to get a BBL, he wanted me to get out.
	He told me I didn't have any boobs.
	He wanted me to get a BBL and giant fake tits.
	I thought that this is a fake.
	No, they're real.
	Wow period.
	Next, I can't.
	Oh, my god, I'm still rockstar.
	I like this, I like this.
	That's quite cute actually.
	I like, oh, I can't.
	I don't think I can age.
	Well, you don't look like you aged much in the middle one, though you look like just a little bit, but you know, there's no way.
	That's 30, what 34?
	There's no way else.
	That AI looks like shit.
	AI next?
	Oh, that's cute.
	Oh, what's this doll next?
	Oh okay okay, they love you, they love you.
	You look cute.
	whoa oh yeah that's crazy wow it's for fun enjoy it while it lasts I love this is there is there more What the fuck?
	Oh, that's funny.
	Oh yeah, where's yours.
	Yeah, where's yours.
	Thank you, that's funny one, let's.
	Oh, that's pretty not bad.
	That's really nice.
	Andrew fucking Gandalf over here, that looks exactly like my father.
	Oh oh really, what the heck looks like his dad.
	Okay, I mean like spitting image of my old man.
	Next, oh my god, looks like a Cafata.
	Yo, you guys fucking.
	At least your eyes are so blue.
	Do we have gender swap?
	Holy fuck bro, I gotta lose some weight okay um uh okay well, let's keep keep an eye out on it though Damien, in case we get gender swap or another batch.
	Uh, we have.
	Oh no, that's funny.
	I like that.
	Don't you don't don't don't, don't do that, don't do that.
	Oh no, not to my knowledge.
	No, Just happen to be blind.
	I think he was referencing the oh, the yeah, yeah, yeah, sweet.
	Uh, let's see here.
	Uh, okay, that's it for the rating thing.
	Uh, we're just gonna get into the uh actually, no, we have a react.
	I've been wanting to react to this since December.
	We're finally gonna do it.
	I think we have enough time to do it.
	Uh, so, Damien, pull up the TikTok.
	Yeah, uh, you might have to adjust the volume a little bit.
	We're gonna be reacting to this video.
	Some of you might have seen it.
	It was this viral video.
	Uh, a woman was broken up with.
	Go ahead and pull it up.
	We're gonna get uh started from the beginning.
	We have audio too.
	Imagine lower than that.
	You live in LA with your boyfriend, and everything's going amazing.
	Till he says, Babe, I want to move back to Texas to be closer to my dad.
	So, you give up half of your career, quit your improv troop, and have a goodbye party.
	Take off months of work, complete your savings, two paper movers, and drive to Texas.
	So, worth it for the love of your wife that wants a future with you because he said so.
	So, you spend a month waiting for your shit to arrive, and then another month of moving in and building furniture and stuff.
	And you're so happy till he comes back from a family vacation, sits on your couch, wishing to drive to the millions you had known.
	Cause as we have nothing in common, we're incompatible.
	Oh no, hi, how did I not notice this whole last three and a half years of happiness?
	We've been incompatible this whole time, and that we have nothing in common for three and a half years.
	How did I not notice what I was right?
	Thank you for informing me that this whole time nothing incoming.
	So, you back up your own word, just gonna get rid of you once we get to back before you.
	And then you drive to Florida to live with your mom.
	All right, um, so this went viral.
	Uh, and so basically, she was dating this guy for what, three and a half years.
	They move, he breaks up with her.
	We don't know the exact timeline, shortly thereafter, maybe a month, couple months after the move.
	Uh, your reaction starting with you.
	Oh, well, sorry that she went through that.
	If you end up watching this, I'm sorry, but like it's like there's no communication, you know, because I feel like if you're communicating constantly with your partner, um, you'd be able to know whether or not like they're into the relationship or they're like taking a step back.
	So, I just feel like your take.
	I just lived that I was moving to another country halfway across the like all the way across the world.
	So, uh, I think that was a little bit over-dramatic.
	Like, it doesn't even seem like she gave up her job or anything.
	It sucks, like, that's always gonna suck.
	But I would never want to be with somebody who didn't want me or didn't see.
	So, it's it completely sucks.
	But you pick yourself up, make a little joke out of it, and you move on.
	It's traumatic, but that makes us who we are.
	So, okay, yeah, what about you?
	Yeah, it is what it is.
	Just, you know, got said to her from you know, somebody else.
	I think it's a good chance for her moving another chapter, start another chapter.
	What about you?
	Oh, I feel like that was really traumatizing.
	I think I went through a similar experience, and so I think I can understand.
	It was wait, it's traumatizing, yeah, it's traumatizing, yeah, traumatizing, okay.
	What happened to her?
	Like, oh my god, traumatizing.
	I think that she like gave up her whole life with this guy that said that he loved her, and then I think that still happens when you know.
	I think they were communicating.
	I think honestly, he just probably found someone better and was like, Oh, there's like options out there for me.
	He didn't realize there was options.
	Well, we don't know that.
	She didn't say anything about that.
	And he went on a family vacation.
	Like, he left her for a bit.
	Comes back.
	He's like, I want to break up.
	Like, what?
	Yeah, maybe he talked to his parents, and the parents were like, yeah, this is not the girl.
	But, okay, what about you, Bailey?
	What do you think?
	Is he a bad guy?
	What do you think?
	I think everything happens for a reason.
	And I think that there's someone better out there.
	For which one?
	For her.
	For her.
	Okay, but like, is he a dick?
	Breaking up with her after the movie.
	Like, what?
	I mean, you ultimately can't control what your partner does.
	So I think that she just needs to move on.
	Like, yes, it's going to hurt, but she's going to be able to find someone who values her and everything.
	I see that sucks because I moved all the way to New Jersey for a guy and he broke up with me.
	And we had to move back to Texas while we were broken up in the plane.
	So I kind of get what she's feeling.
	Oh, my God.
	So she's had to pick herself up.
	Isn't there being Shoguit Better?
	Okay, bye-bye.
	I mean, they were incompatible.
	So it's unfortunate.
	Alina, your thoughts?
	I mean, there's definitely more to the story than we're seeing.
	My question is: why are you posting on social media about a three-year relationship breakup?
	That seems like too much private information out there.
	That might reflect some things that she did in the relationship that made him break up with her.
	It's pretty basic.
	She did.
	I mean, she like blocked his face.
	But like, total strangers won't know who it is.
	But like, they obviously probably had like shared friends, shared social circle.
	Kind of putting them on blast like that kind of thing.
	Really quick before I give my take, though, pull up the comments.
	I think this is like what I thought.
	You know, you can criticize the video or whatever, but like some of these comments are crazy.
	So make it a little bigger for me.
	Sending him generational curses from Africa.
	Scroll down.
	You gave him wife privilege is without being the wife.
	Okay, whatever that means.
	Sending him stress from the engineering world.
	Sending, so they're literally cursing the guy.
	Sending him sleepless nights of regret from Germany.
	He tried to, so they want the guy to suffer.
	It's he tried to dump you politely when he said he wanted to move.
	Whatever.
	Do not do anything for men until he puts a ring on your finger.
	Oh, that's a whole nother.
	That's a whole nother conversation we could get into.
	But scroll down a bit.
	He gave you, okay, whatever.
	If you're so hurt, why'd you film yourself and upload it on the internet?
	Michael Jones, I'll get your TTS in just a sec here.
	This whole production makes you a queen.
	He owes you financial compensation.
	Wrong.
	Scroll down.
	Imagine Duolingo.
	Hold on.
	Kolkata, India.
	Sending him black magic from Kolkata, India, sending him an eternity of chat to lips.
	Scroll down.
	I'll do a couple more.
	I see balding in his feature.
	Wow.
	Hit the plus.
	Hit the plus.
	Scroll down.
	Sending him generational curses from Africa.
	Wait, guys, guys, please don't talk while somebody else is talking.
	Scroll down.
	Or he owes you financial compensation.
	Oh, did it just duplicate it?
	Yeah, I don't know what that is.
	He cheated, blah, blah, blah.
	Okay, go to the TikTok.
	I want to see the comments on TikTok.
	There's a few more.
	So you can criticize what she did, but these comments going after him are kind of crazy.
	Imagine he has to read it, huh?
	That's fine.
	It's fine.
	Make it bigger, though, so I can read the comments.
	Also, the internet's dirty.
	They probably sound bigger bigger, bigger, bigger.
	Scroll, scroll up.
	Let me start it from up, up, up.
	Okay, boyfriends aren't husbands, blah, blah, blah.
	He made you move, then handed you a note.
	I thought, okay.
	Thank you for scroll down.
	Never let them take you to a second location.
	Okay, that's weird.
	It seems like the Instagram ones were worse.
	Oh, can't you 80,000 likes?
	Can't you sue him for something?
	And then, let's see if there's anything.
	Take Amanda there with the verified check, take him to court, send him the moving costs and furniture to pay.
	If he doesn't, sue him and claim he used you.
	So I don't know if these women are joking or they genuinely think that there's actually some sort of like legal avenue that she can take here, which I think is completely ridiculous.
	Isn't there palimony?
	No, that's not.
	I mean, in Canada, it's fucking Canada.
	Canada has some weird cuck shit like that, but scroll down.
	Hire an attorney.
	I did, and my ex had to pay.
	That's fucking totally bogus.
	Maybe in a marriage, there's, I mean, not whatever.
	So multiple people saying, sue him, get money, ask for money, scroll down, scroll down.
	Let me see if there's any more that are interesting.
	Scroll down, scroll down, scroll down.
	Deserves to go viral.
	Let that man.
	Okay.
	Anyways, so there's like different comments.
	There's some comments about money.
	There's some comments like, fuck this guy.
	We hope he gets cursed and shit.
	That's kind of weird.
	Hoping.
	Brian, he was on a journey and all he was doing was finding himself for self-discovery.
	And then he came home and he told her that he didn't want her anymore because they weren't compatible and she freaked out.
	I don't really understand because all he really needs is therapy and then he'll find himself.
	Can we make that go viral too?
	That sounds a little auto tune, maybe a little auto-tune in there.
	The interesting thing for me here is, at least with the comments, right?
	Before I get into like my reaction to her video, the people that are calling for her to sue him.
	First off, I'm not an attorney, but there's no, I mean, look, maybe some attorneys in the chat can clarify.
	Do we have any, Andrew?
	Maybe you have attorneys in your chat.
	There's attorneys in our chat.
	There's no legal cause of action.
	There's no legal cause of action where you could like, oh, you spent money on your boyfriend.
	Your boyfriend breaks up with you.
	He owes you money.
	No, absent, absent him, like you loaning him money in her case, for example.
	You actually would have a legal claim.
	I don't know the laws in Korea though, but if you spend money on somebody in this sort of way, that's essentially a relationship.
	You cannot recuperate the spent invested money on them.
	In addition to that, I think it's really interesting because most of those women, 80,000, it was like 80,000 likes.
	Oh, he should be financially responsible.
	You should sue him.
	How would women feel if we took y'all on a date and paid for the date and you didn't fuck us and were like, oh, give me my money back?
	You guys would be like, what the fuck?
	No, that's crazy to even think like that.
	So the same goes for women, though.
	Just because you invest in us, we don't owe you.
	Like, in the same way, you don't owe us anything.
	In the same way that women, if we take you to dinner, you don't owe the guy sex.
	I don't think that.
	If a guy takes you out, he pays the bill.
	You don't owe him sex.
	If a guy takes you out for a first date, you don't owe him a second date.
	You don't owe him.
	You don't owe him anything.
	What?
	Good point.
	Someone in my chat points out: what about common law marriage?
	I think they were in California.
	I don't think there's common law.
	I don't know about cohabitation.
	Well, some states, I think, you only have to cohabitate for a few months before it applies to you.
	Well, so I don't know the specifics of that, but you are right that there is a common law marriage where even though you're not actually married, if you've been holding yourself, I think it's a few people.
	Well, there's a lot of cohabitation, but you also, there's other prongs to falling in the snare of common law marriage.
	It's not necessarily just cohabitation.
	I think you also have to be holding.
	I could be wrong.
	Again, I'm not a lawyer.
	And it's state-specific too.
	And I believe they were in California, right?
	I don't know.
	I think you have to also be holding yourself out as if you were married too.
	I think that is one component of it.
	But nevertheless, if you're cohabitating in a common law state, you might get ensnared.
	Neither state has it, though.
	California does not recognize common law marriage.
	Yeah, so Texas also, there has to be certain regulations.
	So even then, though, when it comes to her out-of-pocket expenses moving, she wouldn't that wouldn't even be a claim to like recoup her actual expenses.
	She could attempt to make a claim for under the state's law, if there is common law marriage for alimony, but they were together for only three and a half years.
	The alimony would, if it was even granted, would be for a very short period of time.
	Most states, I think, you have to be married beyond for a certain length.
	Seven years.
	Well, it depends on the state, but you have to be married for a certain period of time before you can get alimony.
	And the length of the marriage would determine how long the alimony payment is being made.
	In any case, she can't recuperate the money for the cost of the move, this sort of thing.
	But it's really interesting that all these women saying this would like fucking laugh in a dude's face if, as a guy, you take a girl out on a date and she's not interested, and you're like, oh, can you just Venmo me the 20 bucks that I spent on you for the burgers or whatever?
	So, like, I think that's really interesting.
	That component.
	And then I think the other component is, shit, what is it?
	Oh, I don't think it's interesting.
	Like, y'all, women, you'll, you'll, if you're not into a guy, like, it's done.
	Yeah.
	And, like, if you'd probably clown on a dude if he was kind of upset.
	Oh, like, I took you on a date.
	Oh, we've been dating for a month.
	Oh, we've been dating for three months.
	Oh, we've been dating him for a year.
	It's like, if he's all butthurt about the breakup, like, he can obviously be upset.
	But if he's going to like go and make some fucking video or get all bent out of shape over the breakup, you're not.
	Most women are not going to be pleased with that sort of situation.
	But it's weird to me.
	Like, why do you, and look, I know it's not all women, but why do y'all feel so entitled to a relationship?
	And I'll paint it like this: in the same way that women are not vending machines that you put niceness tokens into or date tokens into, and it pops out sex.
	Women are not sex vending machines.
	Men are not relationship vending machines.
	So, regardless of the investment that you've put into us, we don't owe you any sort of continuity.
	I don't care if we've been dating four years.
	If I've made a determination that I don't want to date you, you're gone.
	And I don't owe you anything in the same way that if you wanted to dump me for any reason or no reason at all, you would do it and you don't owe me anything.
	So, I don't think just because you've been in a relationship for three years and that she made this move and she totally exaggerated like, okay, she took off months of work to move.
	It doesn't take her improv troop.
	Her improv troop.
	And she only gave up, Andrew, half of her music career.
	Only she said she gave up half of it.
	Whatever the fuck that means.
	What about her improv troop, though, Brian?
	You seem to be forgetting the strong bonds that happen inside of improv troops.
	Very strong, life-altering, life-changing bonds that last forever and ever from your improv troop.
	Yeah.
	But I think, I don't know, it's to me, because I actually could never leave my improv troop, Brian.
	It's hard.
	I actually used to do improv when I was like 19.
	I thought theater was a red flag.
	I am a red flag.
	So, anyways.
	But no, it's.
	Well, used to.
	Used to.
	Yeah.
	I gave it up.
	No longer have the red flag.
	Could you imagine if that video was to the flip side and it was her like with a little tune?
	Like, and then I packed up and then I left him because whatever.
	I didn't like what color socks he was wearing on Tuesday.
	The internet and the comments would be like, hell yeah, you go, girl, boss babe.
	Like the comments would be so different if the video was her leaving him instead of him breaking up with her when she got there.
	And also, if he would have made that video, the whole internet, this is so wrong.
	And the view to make this video of her, like, how dare you put her on the internet, even though you blurred her face.
	Like, if the shoe was on the other foot, it would be so different.
	Yeah, it would be like, oh, he's kind of like, whoa, he's really intense.
	Like, yeah, she want, look, tough, tough buddy.
	She wanted to break up with you.
	Like, it's a really good point.
	And it's the point I'm trying to make.
	Like, imagine a guy's like, man, I took her out on three dates and she didn't give me pussy.
	It'd be like, so?
	Like, a girl doesn't owe you sex because you took her on three dates.
	A guy, just because you put some sort some degree of investment into the guy, doesn't mean he owes you continuity in the relationship.
	I think the big thing, though, is like, look, the criticism here is like, why did he do this after the move?
	Maybe he could have dumped her before.
	But we don't know.
	Like, maybe he was all in on the move and wanted to keep seeing her.
	I think people reserve the right to end a relationship at any time.
	And so maybe he made the determination after the move.
	Maybe he saw like, hmm, living with her in one location where she's comfortable, she's cool.
	But like, she's a fucking head case when we're actually stressed out and have to do a move.
	I don't want to deal with a girl like that.
	Who knows?
	Post-move?
	And then he ends it.
	But we don't look.
	We don't know if that's actually the case.
	But what is interesting is there is, look, people could say, look, he should have broken up with her before.
	But if like he only came to the determination, let's say he only came to the determination that he was over the relationship after the move.
	How can you fault him for ending?
	Like, what is he supposed to do?
	Hmm.
	I guess I'll keep fucking her for three months and then I'll dump her.
	What's he supposed to do?
	Also, like, you don't know what?
	Like, there's missing context.
	Like, clearly, I mean, I do think it's weird that he wrote her a note after three years.
	Like, that's pretty weird.
	Like, maybe this guy exuberated some red flags before that happened.
	You should, I don't think you've been dating for three years and you live together.
	You're you pass them a note like first grade.
	Like, do you like me?
	Check yes or no?
	Let me demonstrate that he just doesn't know how to communicate, so he just writes up on letter.
	But that being said, if he didn't know how to communicate, like, I knew that my ex didn't know how to communicate prior to me moving to Australia, and I just accepted that I either accept that he can't communicate or I'm out.
	And I accepted that he can't communicate.
	She must have known, but three years in prior to moving, that this guy is a little goofy in his communication skills.
	So you could tell that she was all for him.
	She literally started building furniture for him.
	Like she was all in.
	And maybe she was like oblivious to the little signs that he was like giving that he's not in it because she really wanted it and then she got the note.
	Who's to say he wasn't in?
	He wasn't in.
	Yeah, he wasn't.
	So, I mean, he could have met somebody.
	He could have met somebody that he deemed a better option.
	He could have, she could have done, said the wrong thing on the wrong day.
	And it was just, again, like that straw that broke the camel's back.
	Anything could have happened, but because it's from her point of view and her perspective, there's missing context in that video.
	That video and Little Tune was made just to like shame him for breaking up with her.
	Yeah.
	Also, if that guy, if anybody, if anybody knows who he is, I want him on the show.
	I'll fly you out.
	Little vacation from Texas to Santa Barbara.
	Fly you out because the internet dragged this guy.
	I want his sign of the story.
	Right.
	I will fly you out.
	I'll cover your expenses.
	We'll have him on the show.
	Yeah, because she painted like such a nasty narrative, especially like making it with the tune.
	She's like, obviously, I don't know if she knew how the algorithm works, but like, you know, that's how you get people to like you.
	Like, just to be funny and witty, and you know, painting that narrative is like fucked up.
	I think crying.
	That's the funny and witty part, though.
	Well, her emojis, the emoji than the song, like that, that was her way, that was her comedy or her way of being funny and dealing with that.
	That song sucked, didn't it?
	It was terrible.
	It was some like artsy hipster, you know, thrown together kind of thing.
	I also think that women that cry on the internet, I think that women's tears are only truly like true, honest to God tears when they're by themselves.
	If you can cry into a camera, I don't find it to be like very legitimate.
	Yeah, it's like, oh my gosh.
	It's like, let me, yeah, it's like, and then they put the phone down and they're like, all right, where are we going for dinner?
	It's so like, it's women's tears are only real when they're by themselves, like into their pillow, having like a real actual meltdown.
	And you don't call anyone.
	You don't call your best friend.
	You don't call your mom.
	You have your little emotional meltdown and cry in your bed alone.
	If you're posting it on the internet, they're fake tears.
	Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
	Can you, Damien, can you Google?
	I'm going to send it to you.
	There's a beautiful Socrates quote.
	Go ahead, pull that up.
	There's a Socrates quote.
	I wonder if there's an image search for it.
	Go to the image search.
	Show me the image search for this.
	Oh my God, there's wait, that's funny.
	Tab over, just go ahead, tab over.
	That's funny.
	There's actually a fucking clip from, look at the TikTok clip, the fourth one over.
	That's from my, that's, hey, that's Orion, Orion Taraban.
	That's funny.
	That's from my podcast.
	Click on the first one.
	By wait, what?
	Oh, next one over.
	My bad.
	Trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will.
	Whoa, that's really a little bit of toxic masculinity from Socrates going around the table.
	Do you agree with this?
	You disagree?
	Honestly, I need to read the quote up again.
	I'll get the TTSs in just a sec, guys.
	I apologize for the delay.
	Trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep.
	When she wants her will.
	Yeah, I mean, I do see a lot of like philosophy ideas, and I do believe in a lot of them.
	So when I see this, I see it as a possibility to be true, especially just knowing me being a woman.
	I could definitely find myself doing something like attention.
	And then just go around the question.
	Well, Brian didn't even give you the good one.
	You see, one of the students of Socrates, Plato, and then from Plato to Aristotle, Aristotle said, wherefore women are more compassionate and more ready to weep, more jealous and quarrelsome, more fond of railing and more contentious.
	The female is also more subject to depression of spirits and despair than the male.
	She's also shameless and false, more readily deceived and more mindful of energy or of injury.
	More watchful, more idle, and on the whole, less excitable than the male.
	On the contrary, the male is more ready to help.
	And as it has been said, more brave than the female.
	even in the Malaysia, if the sepia is struck with the trident, the male comes to help the female, but the female makes her escape if the male is struck.
	So just saying, the philosophers of old did not seem to have, well, I mean, they had a high opinion of women, I guess, but they seem to understand the nature pretty well, didn't they?
	I just think that overall, like, obviously these philosophers, like, they're all male.
	But the one that you referenced, I like that he mentioned that women are more compassionate because generally women are more compassionate than men.
	So we tend to feel a lot more important thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Do you understand?
	He's not saying that.
	He's saying that you're a slave to passion.
	He's saying that we're a slave to passion.
	Like we have like a no-emotional agility, that we can't control our emotions.
	Compassion in and of itself, he's making a reference here.
	Wherefore women are more compassionate and more ready to weep, more jealous, more quarrelsome, right?
	He's saying actually that they're a slave to their passion.
	In this case, that their compassion is often misplaced because it's a part of their nature, right?
	I think that's what he's saying.
	You do see that comment a lot towards girls.
	Like, oh, you're being too emotional right now.
	Or like, oh, you can't control your emotions.
	And that's not usually towards guys.
	I do see that a lot more.
	I literally said it to my sister last night because she was crying.
	But it's like she cried because she didn't know how to express herself.
	So I don't know.
	Some women, they feel helpless that they actually can't do anything.
	And so their only other alternative is to cry.
	And I guess it kind of does play into Socrates where he's like, oh, women cry to get their way.
	And I could see that as well.
	I think that it's like they don't see any other action that they could take in that moment than to just cry.
	And it's just like a way for them to relieve stress or built up tension within.
	And also women, I think that, you know, we feel like it's a lot easier to cry.
	I have not seen that many guys cry in my life.
	And it's like an Asian saying, like, guys only cry three times in their life.
	It's like when they're born, when their dad dies, and when, I don't know, their grandma, mom, I'd have forgotten.
	You know the saying, right?
	Yeah.
	Can I ask, like, would you guys feel as if like that is most definitely not the saying?
	Isn't that the saying?
	No, that is most definitely not the same.
	Yeah, it's a saying.
	No, she knows it.
	It's in Korean.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's a crystal.
	Yeah, but that's not the three times they cry, though.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think I did it wrong.
	I think I did it wrong.
	It was like when they're born, when someone dies, and then for the last one, when they went to the military, I'm thinking what's up.
	I think guys mostly view crying as a sort of manipulative thing, or I guess most guys, because I can say all guys, as a manipulative thing of girls to do to just get their way.
	But I think most girls are emotional, don't really know how to control their emotions, or they're just super emotional and just end up crying because they're hurt.
	Not necessarily for wanting to get their way or wanting to manipulate their way in their situation.
	Sorry.
	I have to kind of give you a firm disagreement here.
	So I think women don't have much in the way of recourse except two ways.
	Vicious slander or through manipulation.
	And here's why I think this.
	So men always have an option, women don't, which is force.
	Women don't even really have a force option against other women, right?
	It's not really something they do.
	Now, it has become more prominent now that women fight or are willing to go fisticuffs with each other, but it's still not nearly as common as it is with men.
	And on top of that, they can't do that with men.
	So what they do instead is their kind of ways of fighting back are either through emotional machinations or through the idea of slander, right?
	Those are kind of the two pathways that they have because what else do they have?
	So if Bob is giving me a bunch of trouble, I can punch Bob in the mouth and that's totally socially acceptable.
	I can't punch Linda in the mouth.
	That's totally not socially acceptable.
	On the other hand, if Linda punches me in the mouth, that's laughable, right?
	It's just like, okay, well, what did you accomplish here?
	You know, perhaps you hurt your hand, right?
	So the thing is, is like, they don't really have much but two options.
	And so I think that that's, I do think it's a form of manipulation.
	Now, you could argue that that manipulation is necessary because that's what's at their disposal, but I do think it's manipulation for sure.
	I think it's the only defense mechanism that women really have besides what you just said, like going on a smear campaign.
	Just like a skunk gets scared and sprays or a porcupine gets scared and puts their spikes up, women's only real defense mechanism is crying.
	Like that's all they can do.
	I wouldn't agree with that because I would say we could, as women, kind of put in the work and control our emotions and maybe come from a place with logic and conversation, you know, and not just cry.
	And I get it.
	But a man who's decided to break up with you, that guy that, like that video, that's how this conversation all started.
	That video of that girl crying, besides her smear campaign and her tears, there's nothing that she can do to that guy.
	She could leave.
	He left her.
	That's why she made the video and she was upset.
	He gave her a.
	To Chair One's point, I don't think she's wrong.
	I think that women are capable of logical discourse and reason and everything else.
	I don't think they're incapable of this at all.
	I just think that ultimately, what backs it with men, if men have like a logical dispute or a reason dispute or something like this, we ultimately have something that we can defer to, force doctrine.
	Yes.
	Okay, we both think we're right.
	So one of us can always just beat the shit out of the other, right?
	So we can decide it that way.
	We have a threshold breaker.
	Completely.
	That doesn't exist.
	That doesn't exist for women.
	I also think a lot of times.
	Just like Snipply isn't there.
	So, Chair One, like, what do you do to get revenge, right?
	I know what men do to get revenge.
	Oftentimes, like, if I ever see that guy again, I'm going to punch him right in the mouth.
	And then they do it, right?
	They actually do it.
	Women don't really have that available to them.
	So what they do is they run slander campaigns or emotional manipulation.
	Like, what other choices available to them?
	They could to get revenge at all.
	Take accountability.
	I agree with that.
	I'm just saying that if they were to want to for whatever reason, that would be the option available to them.
	Yeah.
	Or there's the option of walking away, evolving, becoming the absolute best version of yourself.
	I mean, they might never care, but there is like if there was all these issues in the relationship and you step away from a relationship or from whatever the dispute is and you fix it and you work on yourself and you become a better person at some point.
	I do believe in the theory that like they always come back.
	I mean and they it might always be a good thing and they might not always come back in the capacity that you want them back in, but women, I mean, women do possess the ability to take.
	Well, here, let's try it this way.
	Okay.
	Just a quick show of hands.
	Do you think that women plot and scheme more than men do by a show of hands?
	Oh, yeah.
	We just love a woman rather than that.
	Definitely.
	So definitely women plot and scheme more than men do.
	So let me ask you this.
	Think about this from a man's perspective.
	Women often don't think of it from our perspective, but universally from theirs.
	And why wouldn't they, right?
	They're not men.
	They're women.
	So they're going to think of things from their perspective.
	It's hard to actually put yourself in the other seat.
	But when women say like men are emotionally closed off, they're emotionally closed off.
	They don't want to talk.
	They don't want to talk about their feelings.
	They don't want to talk about things like this.
	Did you guys ever think that?
	Because if they do, it actually gives you ammunition.
	So, if they tell you their deepest, darkest fears, or they tell you, or they become vulnerable with you about anything which is emotional, since they know that you scheme and plot as a way to either defend yourself or hurt other people, whereas they would just like punch him in the mouth, right?
	By them actually being vulnerable to you, that lays open the trap for your scheming and plotting.
	So, in many ways, wouldn't that be a great defense mechanism?
	Like, wouldn't you actually give men advice?
	Don't tell women very much because they scheme and plot and will do bad things to you with the information if they get upset, right?
	Like, that makes sense from a man's perspective.
	Well, yeah, because like society makes it to wherever a man cries, immediately he's weak.
	Immediately, he, you know, is like less of a man because he can't control his emotions.
	And then, naturally, like, because I have done this like years ago to my first relationship where he was vulnerable with me.
	And I do remember mentioning to him, like, when I was crying, I was like, well, when you were crying, when you cried, I was there for you.
	You know, so that's like that.
	I was kind of like using his vulnerability as a way for him to be there for me.
	And like.
	So it was a bit of plotting and scheming and manipulation, right?
	Yeah, 100%.
	So this is the case, right?
	So in many ways, probably the best advice to give men is to not open up to women.
	Just open up to the right one, the right one.
	So, but wait, it gets worse.
	It gets worse.
	What if it's the case that the reason women are always complaining that men don't open up and aren't vulnerable to them is because what they really mean is this fucking guy isn't giving me ammunition to hurt him with.
	In some cases, I would agree that probably, maybe most cases, I have no idea, actually.
	But when you think about it, you think about it from the man's mind, he's like, wait a second, now that we know they scheme and plot more, and they're going to use what I say is emotional ammunition, and they get upset if I don't emotionally become vulnerable for them.
	If you put that together in the man's logical brain, doesn't he think to himself, wait a second, this chick just wants me to be emotionally vulnerable and give her my darkest secrets so that she can hurt me with them if she wants to.
	Because what other recourse does she have?
	Yeah, I would say that means you just got to get to know the person that you're investing yourself with to understand their mindset and where they would come from or how they would treat you and trust that they wouldn't do that to you.
	Michael Jones donated $200.
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	Now they want to rub my belly, want to show your boy some love.
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	Shout out to the Passport Brothers also.
	Hi, Chair 8.
	Hi.
	Yo, Michael Jones, I apologize for the.
	I had to step away from the table for a moment.
	I apologize for the delay.
	I'm so sorry, in fact, that I don't know how to make it up to you.
	Pick something, because I apologize for the delay.
	Also, we have a few more coming up.
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	Chair 4, why are you talking like that?
	Weren't you born and raised in the U.S.?
	Chair 1, we all know that sweaty rafe slit stank.
	You need to donate more and let me know what a sweaty rave slit stink mean.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	What?
	What happened?
	Were you born in the United States?
	Yeah, I have an American passport.
	What the heck?
	Yeah, I was born in Monarch.
	What was your first language?
	My first language was Cantonese.
	Okay.
	It's like a little twangy.
	All right, we have this.
	You can.
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	Enjoy Andrew's beautiful song.
	Um, I think it's fine.
	Play it.
	Don't show it, just play it.
	Brian, he was on a journey, and all he was doing was finding himself for self-discovery.
	And then he came home, and he told her that he didn't want it anymore because he went to battle.
	I don't think he'll find himself penetrating.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you.
	Wow, that was beautiful.
	Andrew, do you want to say anything about that?
	I don't know.
	It was a brilliant masterpiece.
	I'm sure it'll go viral.
	And, you know, we'll catch all the right algorithms.
	I did want to just quickly finish this conversation.
	One second.
	Just one sec.
	V donated $200.
	Does anyone feel a family member wrote the note?
	And agreed no one should give with strings attached.
	Hey, V, thank you very much.
	I do appreciate that.
	Yeah, I mean, feel a family member wrote the note?
	Like, his mom, his note?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I do.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm the one who controls all of the TTSs coming through.
	I stepped away for about 10 minutes.
	So some of these came in a little, you know, 10 minutes ago, 10, 15.
	So I apologize for that.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Yeah, yeah, no problem.
	So I just wanted to just briefly kind of wrap this up with: have any of you ever been with a person who switched on a dime?
	They changed on a dime.
	And suddenly you found yourself having to defend yourself from like vicious allegations or rumor mongering or things like that.
	Or even had a close friend by a raise of hands who's done that to you.
	Only two of you have ever had a friend of yours or a person you were with ever change very quickly or rapidly?
	Oh, oh, talking about like a partner, like someone you were dating.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, of course.
	I think that over a relationship, you should change it.
	It's pretty common.
	Pretty common, I would say, right?
	So if that's the case for you, men would probably think that that would be the case for them too.
	So, again, why would they be vulnerable?
	But I think men.
	Yeah.
	I didn't mean to cut you off.
	I think men do the same thing to women.
	Men are fixers, so if you complain about something, they'll try to fix it for you.
	But they also kind of store that complaint in the back of their mind and they start using anything that you say to like psychoanalyze you and a lot of times try to convince you, like why you're messed up and like why they can like fix you.
	Men, take the same thing that you're saying, women do to men, men do to women and they like in my opinion, it's what I don't know who you're talking about women, when women are vulnerable, women bitching about problems no no, like literally anything.
	Like if women are vulnerable about something that's happened to them like, for example, if a woman's parents got divorced, let's say, or something like that and she says like oh, like I, you're married or whatever, and she's like i'm insecure in the marriage about this, like because my parents got divorced, that guy will take that and he will use that to the end of the earth.
	It doesn't matter what you say he'll Be like, that's because your parents got divorced and now you're messed up.
	Like, guys do the same thing to women.
	They take something that you've said and you were vulnerable about and they like twist it for their own like evil maniacal good in the relationship or to justify something completely unrelated.
	They store that away in the back of their head and they use it against you too.
	Like men also do that.
	Why did you say earlier that you think that women are more manipulative and have more nefarious machinations when it comes to these manipulations than men?
	I think I think that women will go after a relationship, they will do more of a smear campaign.
	They'll do more of like the getting with their friends or mutual, mutual friends, mutual partners and doing like the, oh, well, here's, you know, he did this and he did that and he sucks because of this and he sucks because of that.
	I don't think men really go to their friends after a relationship or after something bad has happened and do that to the woman.
	They do it or like do it behind her back.
	They do it directly to her.
	So I think that men are more like kind of calculating in the relationship to make vulnerable things a woman has said fit the narrative.
	Women don't usually use it against him, like to his face.
	They take it and they do a smear campaign with it after like, oh, behind their back, which is worse.
	So men are talking to them about the actual problem and saying, here's why the problem may exist, which makes sense.
	And women will go behind the back of the man in order to smear them.
	Isn't that way worse?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So then when you're talking about this, I would put this in the category of bitching, right?
	So it works like this.
	Men do bitch to each other.
	They gripe to each other occasionally.
	But if there's too much griping, we look over at the other guy and we say, hey, shut the fuck up.
	I don't want to hear your bitching anymore.
	Shut up.
	I don't want to hear it.
	Be quiet.
	Go away.
	Right?
	This kind of thing.
	And then we make fun of them and clown on them.
	And then what that does is it prevents them in the future from bitching anymore, right?
	Because they know that there's going to be a bunch of negative feedback from men.
	But we can't do that with our women, right?
	We can't just be like, ah, you know, why don't you shut the fuck up?
	Because I'm tired of hearing you're bitching because that's not socially acceptable.
	But that's how we do it with other men.
	That's how we do it with.
	My ex-fiancé literally would do that.
	He would literally be like, plus, imagine, hang on, hang on, almost done.
	So from our perspective, imagine you're dealing with a woman and she's in this category of bitching all the time.
	Of course, it's going to be categorized.
	And when you're trying to fix the problem, which is making her bitch, right?
	You're going to try to analyze what's causing the problem so you can fix it.
	That makes sense to me.
	That does make sense.
	But I've had it before, like where, like I was just saying, my ex-fiancé would literally look at me and he'd be like, shut the fuck up.
	I had a long day at work.
	Like, I don't care.
	like I don't want to hear about your problems but I've also had it where I'm well I mean he sounds awesome Yeah.
	You would like him, actually, I think.
	I would rather that, though, than a guy taking something that I told him, like that I was confiding in him in and being vulnerable with and take it and use it against me and be like, well, you have trust issues because X, Y, and Z.
	I don't have a specific example like off the top of my head, but I would rather just be like, shut the fuck up.
	Your bitching is annoying me than having something like that I told you.
	I want the fact that women are always psychoanalyzing themselves to the men that they're with constantly to them and telling them why they think they're fucked up.
	So women are notorious for doing this.
	The reason that I talk so much about blah, is because this awful thing that happened to me four years ago when I was walking around the park and I was jump scared by, you know, random, like they do that shit all the time.
	So they're constantly giving descriptive explanations and psychoanalyzing themselves and why they do certain behaviors.
	And then when a man turns around and says, wait a second, aren't you doing that because by your own descriptive statement, you said you're all fucked up because A, B, and C, and then a woman's like, you shouldn't say that.
	That's mean.
	That's messed up.
	You're using it against me.
	But it's like, you said that shit, right?
	Oh, that's so true.
	It's a good point.
	I really like what you just said.
	It's a fair point.
	Yeah, I mean, they're always psychoanalyzing themselves.
	That is true.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think so.
	I think we tried to help each other out.
	I'm like, oh, maybe he did this.
	And it's like something that happened like 10 years ago because this happened.
	And then we don't really want to take full responsibility for what we did.
	Yeah, they like narrate their behavior.
	Yeah.
	They narrate their behavior all the time.
	Like, don't you guys narrate your behavior?
	Show of hands if you narrate your own behavior.
	Like, you've been narrating your behavior most of the night, right?
	Yeah.
	You guys just kind of like narrate your behavior.
	And so we catalog the narration and then we're like, okay, well, it sounds like she needs A, B, C, and D fixed.
	And he's just, well, don't use that against me.
	It's like, well, I mean, I wouldn't even know it except you just decided to catalog your entire life's work of events to me.
	I remember when I was working as a teacher, I had one student that tried to beat me up.
	And then all the other kids are like, oh, don't get mad at him.
	Like, I heard that his mom is in the hospital.
	I was like, what does his mom being in the hospital have to do with him threatening me?
	And the kids are just like, don't take it personally.
	I was like, oh, what the heck?
	You forgot to start with one time at bank camera?
	Yeah, every time you talk, you're supposed to do that.
	Yeah.
	Anything?
	Did you have more on that, Andrew?
	Or good to move things on?
	Okay.
	All right.
	AK the closer.
	Andrew, on the back of what you said about men being able to use force with other men as a means of conflict resolution, what recourse do men have against malignant women, if any?
	They don't have anything.
	The only thing that they have is counter-reputational damage, which makes them look mean and makes women look like victims.
	So the problem, especially in modernity, is that when women begin slander campaigns and men defend themselves, usually the only way that they can do so is to be vicious back.
	This is unfortunately the side effect of slander campaigns is the without in order to defend yourself, like let's say for instance, a woman is abusive to you and she's hitting you, things like this, and one night you physically grab her and move her or move her out of your way so you can leave or something like this.
	She files a police report and now you're being slandered as being abusive, this type of thing.
	Well, oftentimes the only way that you can defend yourself from such slander is to be like, no, this lady was hitting me constantly.
	She was awful, this type of thing.
	But it makes you, because you're determined socially by what is called the Schrödinger feminist phenomenon, which is I'm a very empowered badass woman or the worst victim you've ever seen, depending on which situation benefits me most.
	In this case, women will often portray why they're slandering you, that they themselves are the victim if you hit back, right?
	So this would be the same thing in the context of if a woman punches you in the face and you punch her back in the face, she still immediately gets the victim status, even though really she doesn't deserve it.
	Can I ask a question?
	One second.
	Also, on the other hand, this is basically a holdover from chivalry, essentially.
	Also, the issue with when it comes to reputation destruction stuff here while we keep it center is let's assume, I mean, this, what I'm about to say maybe doesn't necessarily apply so much if you're just like a normie, but if you have like, hey guys, guys, this is why we need people to show up on time because we called you on the phone so that you can be listening.
	You cannot be having sidebar.
	I've had to shush you multiple times.
	If somebody else is talking, don't lean over to your neighbor and start talking to them.
	It's disrespectful and rude to whoever's talking.
	It distracts them.
	It's rude and it fucks the audio.
	So please don't do sidebars.
	So, anyways, back to this page out of Andrew's book.
	Back to this.
	I already lost my train of thought.
	Wonderful.
	That's exactly why we don't want people doing stuff like that.
	We're talking about reputational damage.
	Yeah, so let's say you're like a somebody and the girl's a nobody.
	I'm not saying this from an ego perspective, but if you're a fucking NFL NBA player, you can't even resort to counter reputation destruction, really, because you have everything to lose and they have nothing to lose.
	That's the second thing.
	Maybe they're doing it for attention.
	You actually making some sort of definitive statement about it gives them the attention, the precise attention that they want.
	And then, furthermore, given the lack, it's interesting how there's talks about imbalances of power.
	A guy who's like really famous or who has a lot of money or resources dating a woman who has nothing.
	I actually think in some ways, a woman who has nothing, who is involved with a man with immense amount of power, is actually severely disadvantaged in some ways because the woman has nothing to lose.
	Nothing to lose if she opts to slander, slander, or destroy his reputation.
	He has everything to lose.
	So this idea that there's some power dynamic I find kind of almost laughable when actually women in many instances have substantial power in the sort of in the way that they can wield it when it comes to any sort of false accusations or slander.
	But I guess going back to my point, if you have a platform of any kind and you're a guy, whether it's relationship or just somebody talking shit about you, you can respond, but you've just put all your audience's attention on something that maybe many of them wouldn't even hear about or wouldn't care about.
	So it's a two-edged sword.
	Yeah, you can resort to like you can resort to a sort of rebuttal of reputation destruction, but honestly, it really doesn't help you that much.
	And I think the other thing here is, oh, shoot, I'm trying to think what the other thing was related to.
	Are you like touching on cancel culture?
	No.
	Not really.
	When it comes to, oh, there's something else when it comes to reputation destruction.
	Oh, related to his original point, what recourse do men have against malignant women?
	And I think the interesting thing, Andrew, in society, society has broadly recognized that the method by which men activate aggression through typically physical violence, that has been legislated against thoroughly for hundreds of years.
	But there's actually no mechanism to police the ways in which women display their aggression.
	There's really nothing.
	There's not even really much civil remedies.
	There's no criminal remedies, except for very severe cases where there's been like they make a false criminal complaint and it's provable that she's lying.
	You know, you can get them with this even many times when they do like a false police report, the district attorney opts not to really prosecute it.
	They get off with probation or something, you know, slap on the wrist.
	And then there's really nothing in modern society that has any sort of enforcement mechanism when it comes to female aggression in the realm of reputation destruction and this sort of thing.
	So I think that's interesting.
	Well, there used to be, there used to be, just so you know, there used to be defamation laws and defamation laws were actually enforced readily.
	And let me give you an example of a defamation law, which was pretty common when the country was founded.
	If you talk shit about a man, you would end up sword fighting with him in the morning and one of you could die.
	Or you would go out with a duel with a pistol and blow each other's brains out, perhaps, as part of a legal remedy for having your honor in some way besmirched or your wife's honor in some way besmirched.
	There's many famous cases of this happening.
	However, there was legal remedies against women who did this as well.
	And here's what the legal remedy was.
	You could challenge her husband to a duel, right?
	And so that was a great remedy because that would take care of her security.
	So she had to be very cautious about who she was running her mouth about because then that the other guy decided to besmirch her honor, her husband was obligated then to duel with him or become honorless.
	So that was a great way to keep that in check, right?
	Oh, well, you're going to be homeless and penniless without your husband's fortune because I shot him because he dishonored me, right?
	That was a significantly good way to keep some of that in check, but unfortunately that's gone.
	Like if you brought dueling back in modernity, 90% of society would correct itself in weeks.
	Bring dueling back.
	Bring it back.
	I agree.
	There we go.
	Bring dueling back.
	Bring dueling.
	What does it?
	But somebody can like turn down the duel, I'm pretty sure.
	But then you look like a bitch.
	And then they're labeled a coward.
	Yeah.
	The whole point of honor was that you didn't, the reason people didn't run their mouth is because either you showed up to the duel or you're labeled a coward who turned down a duel, right?
	So every time the other person saw you, regardless of what you said, you'd just be like, well, you're a coward, so who cares?
	And that's the end of that, right?
	But if a person's woman wouldn't, so I mean, this is actually so common.
	The honor culture came back over to the turn of the 20th century.
	That's why when you watch black and white movies where men will look over and say, hey, quiet that woman down if she's like running her mouth, sometimes the husband would turn and smack her, right?
	And the point of that was it was part of the honor culture of saying, look, you're about to get me in hot water here, right?
	So there was a corrective lens or a corrective action which used to be able to be taken.
	Can I ask the panel a question?
	Sure.
	Okay, so like going around, I guess starting here, if you hit a man, like you full on as hard as you can, closed fists, punch a man in the jaw or the eye or whatever you might do, do you think that he should be allowed to hit you back?
	Or are you expecting to get hit back?
	You've chosen to hit like a man.
	Can he hit you back?
	Or should he hit you back?
	Depends on who hits.
	Hunted pee.
	You hit first.
	Oh, I hit first.
	Yeah, just don't like beat me, beat me up.
	No, no, you hit him as hard as you hit him as hard as you can.
	Now he gets hit you as hard as you can, shouldn't he?
	Oh, as hard as he can?
	Yeah, you hit him with full force, closed fists.
	Can he use that same degree of force on you?
	That's a good question.
	This is why you don't hit a man.
	I agree.
	That's a woman.
	I agree.
	Let's get the answers, though.
	Let's get the answers first.
	Can we come back to me?
	Okay, what do you think?
	Well, before we get you, what do you think?
	Of course, should expect it, but after before even I hit, I tried to also like my anxiety, whatever, the gauge is really the gauge, like the gauge is too much.
	So, you know.
	So anyway, I should expectation and yeah.
	So yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yo, Elder, thank you for the membership.
	What do you think?
	I think that men should not hit women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, even if a girl hits you as hard as they can.
	So even in the situation she presented, the woman hits him first.
	Do you think, I mean, but if the guy did, would you think that that was wrong?
	If a guy hit the girl after she had hit him the hardest that she could, yes, I think it's wrong.
	For Pimp?
	For the guy to hit her.
	What about is it wrong for the girl?
	I think, is it wrong for the girl to hit the guy?
	Okay.
	Is it wait?
	Is that wrong?
	Is it?
	No, I don't think so.
	You don't think it's wrong for a woman to hit a man?
	I mean, depends.
	It's just like one time.
	Like, she was mad.
	She hit him.
	And it's like the hardest she could, right?
	That's quite the concession.
	Yeah.
	A concession?
	Yeah, I think you said it right.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think I conceived it there.
	Is that a concession?
	Yeah, so he's expected to.
	He's expected to control his rage and his emotions and his like, but the woman, she just got mad hit him.
	Okay, if you think about it, right?
	Like, I think that's one of the questions, the questionnaire.
	Like, are men physically stronger than women?
	And sometimes I'm like, yeah, men are like built physically to be stronger than girls.
	That's why we have different Olympics.
	Men and women cannot compete in the same Olympic teams.
	Wait, have you ever hit somebody?
	Have I hit somebody?
	Yeah, I have.
	Like a guy?
	Yeah.
	And did he hit you first?
	No.
	Have you hit a guy multiple times?
	No.
	So you hit a guy, like you, whoa, tell us the story.
	What happened?
	We just fought about something and I was just like so frustrated.
	Like, I think she said it.
	I was like, ugh.
	And I was just like, slapped him.
	And then.
	How hard did you slap him?
	I thought, I think the hardest I could.
	Yeah.
	And that was the only time you put hands on the guy or have you done it before?
	No, that was the first time and last time.
	The first time he smacked you back?
	Did he hit me back?
	No, he just like left.
	He just left the apartment and I didn't see him the whole night.
	What did he do?
	I honestly don't remember what he fought about, what we fought about.
	We talked about it again when he was.
	Was it cheating or no?
	We never.
	But he just didn't take out the trash or something?
	It was like something like, it was something.
	She's like a 1950s wife beater.
	You fucking, you overcooked my fucking roast beat.
	Wait, what was like a common, what?
	Oh, my God.
	My iris.
	Pot roast.
	You overcooked the pot roast.
	No, yeah.
	I was like very petty.
	No, no, but no, the fight was very serious.
	It was about something, but I don't remember.
	I think it was about weed.
	I told him to stop smoking.
	Yes, I'll tell you.
	It was about weed.
	Yeah.
	Did you guys stay together?
	Yeah, we lived together at the time.
	Yeah.
	Oh, domestic violence.
	It was domestic.
	Oh, my favorite.
	However, in college.
	Wow.
	That's a position of privilege, right?
	So the same thing when Chair One has to think about this, right?
	She goes, hmm, this is a tough question.
	It's actually a position of privilege that women have that I don't really understand why they have it.
	Because if you want equality and egalitarianism.
	I just, oh, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, if you want equality and egalitarianism, the idea here is going to be based around the fact that chivalry is gone.
	We are now equals.
	Chivalry would always put women in a position where they needed to be a protected class.
	And in exchange for that, men got virtues, right?
	Like chased virgins and things like this.
	They don't get that anymore.
	So they don't really need to give out chivalry.
	If a man hits you in the face and you can punch them back, why is it if a woman punches you in the face, you can't punch her back?
	That actually doesn't make any sense.
	Wait, can I add something?
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Because that's exactly what just, you just missed my whole point then.
	if you weren't if you think that you don't understand it what i'm saying is that men are physically stronger than women like for example like physically stronger than other men So if a man who is less strong than me punches me in the face and I punch him back in the face as hard as I can, I'm still punching somebody weaker than me in the face.
	Why is that socially acceptable?
	Hang on, hang on.
	But not socially acceptable to punch a woman who's weaker.
	That makes no sense.
	No, because then like that guy who's weaker than you that you mentioned is because like maybe he chose to be weak.
	He could like bulk up and get stronger, right?
	But the strongest of the women.
	He's not stronger than he's not stronger when I punched him and that's still socially acceptable.
	Like for instance, if a man who's only as strong as you punches me in the face, it is completely socially acceptable even by you for me to punch him back.
	Why is it not socially acceptable to punch you back though?
	Because that makes no sense.
	If you think about it in the Olympics, like I said, like why don't women and men compete together?
	Like it just, we just don't.
	It's like there's different standards and levels.
	Like even when you play golf, there's like a lady team.
	Where are the female boxers trying to punch the male boxers then?
	What?
	If it's a male boxer, female boxer?
	If you saw a boxer.
	You have to punch male boxers.
	And if they do punch a male boxer, then male boxer has a right to punch him back, right?
	Why don't they have MMA between women and men?
	They don't showcase that.
	Because they don't want to get hit by men.
	Therefore, they don't want to hit men.
	Men are in a different wake time.
	If you go, let's go to an MMA fight.
	The woman's conceivably going to be punching you in the face, right?
	And you're going to be punching her in the face.
	So the way that they avoid the man punching her in the face is to not have that fight.
	Just like a way for women to avoid getting punched in the face is by not punching men in the face, right?
	Pretty simple.
	If you walk outside right now and there was a tiger outside and you threw like a rock at it, what would you expect would happen?
	If there was a tiger outside and you threw a rock right at the tiger, what do you think would happen?
	I think it would probably chase me, no?
	So why would you throw the rock?
	I don't know, to aggravate.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just throw this wrong.
	You're telling me to aggravate the tiger?
	You teach seventh grade, right?
	I taught seventh grade, yes.
	Taught seventh grade.
	Okay, isn't it the case that between about fifth, sixth, and seventh grade, often the girls are much stronger than the boys because they go through puberty first?
	I think that the girls are, no, I've never seen girls stronger than the boys.
	Like, they were skinny.
	A lot of the girls are skinny and smaller than that.
	Yeah, sure, sure.
	But it is often the case.
	Women reach puberty before men do.
	And so in many cases, they're stronger than men also.
	Oh, okay.
	I can see that.
	Actually, yeah, there's some ones that were strong.
	So in those cases, wouldn't you have to say that if those girls punch those boys, or if the boys punch those girls, the girls shouldn't hit them back?
	Oh, actually, I think that it's like different because then, like, I was thinking about it as like we're all adults and then they're hitting each other, but like they're kids.
	I feel like it's fair game.
	Like, the guy and the girl and like the little boys and the little girls, they can fight each other.
	They're like the same level.
	Yeah, I think that's like, I've seen girls beat up guys.
	I've seen guys beat up girls.
	Like, not guys, sorry, like little boys in seventh grade.
	Let's get the answers from the rest of the panel for your question.
	What about you?
	I think if a girl wants to hit first, then you've opened it up for a guy to respond.
	Sorry, what's the question?
	If you hit a man, full force, haul off and punch him in the jaw or the face or whatever as hard as you can, should he be able to hit you back?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't think I should be surprised because that would be self-defense.
	Everyone should have self-control when it comes to anger and everything else.
	I think, I guess, really quick on this, I think a guy would be within his right to do it.
	As a woman, if you hit a guy, I don't think you should be surprised.
	But I would also have to advocate proactively, pragmatically speaking, as a man, even in like a self-defense situation, you got to just extract yourself from the situation, practically speaking, because even if she hits you first, maybe you're 100% in the right, whether it's, well, I was going to say legally or at least from a societal view.
	You can, even if she's the initiator, as the man, you still put yourself at like significant peril when it comes to the criminal justice system if you strike a woman.
	So, you just look, it's unfair, but that's how it is.
	You got to remove yourself from the situation if you can.
	That's why when I say I don't think men should hit women, even they shouldn't hit women in that situation.
	You got to remove yourself from that situation, and it has to be done with that girl.
	Once a girl ever puts hands on you, it's over.
	It has to be done.
	So, but as a woman, you should not be like, if you hit a man, don't be surprised.
	Nobody should hit anybody, but don't be surprised if you get a smack back.
	Also, gentlemen, if it's in public, you definitely should not smack back because a bunch of white knight simps will intervene on her behalf.
	Even if they see her smack you first, you gotta be cautious about the surrounding environments, and you're gonna put yourself not just in legal peril, in legal jeopardy, but also they're gonna fuck you up.
	The other men are gonna fuck you up if they see you smack a girl, even if it's well, if it's in return, even if it's in return.
	The city will come after you and they'll press charges on you.
	Yeah, so um, did you have something else on this?
	I do want to try to get things moving on, though.
	I mean, I don't think they should, but I think if you're gonna hit like a man, I think that you should be expecting to get hit back.
	And I was just gonna tell a funny story, it's like quick.
	I know one time at band camp, no, I know that I know a guy who was getting hit, like literally beat by his girlfriend, like bloody face.
	And he's like, Stop hitting me, stop hitting me, stop.
	And he ends up calling the cops on her.
	This woman was crazy.
	She takes her head, bashes it into like a granite countertop.
	Now she's all bloody.
	She's like, What are you gonna tell him?
	I'm gonna tell him you hit me first.
	Oh, wow.
	Like, women are many such cases.
	Many such cases.
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	Excuse me.
	Oh, fuck.
	Am I crazy here?
	Brian, I feel like the chat's gaslighting me.
	But in like elementary school or something like that, isn't there this tiny window where the girls are taller, taller than that?
	Yeah, this type of thing.
	And then come back.
	Yeah, you know what I mean?
	And then you come back two summers later or whatever, the boys are all way bigger and stronger and this kind of thing.
	I'm pretty sure that I'm correct about that.
	I think it's a little bit younger.
	Yeah, like fifth, sixth grade, fourth, fifth, sixth.
	Yeah, okay.
	Blackbird.
	Yo, guys, W's in the chat over there on Twitch for Blackbird.
	Gifted 100 subs.
	Oh my God, it is on Fire over there on Twitch.
	Yo, Blackbird, excuse me, choked on some water there.
	You're fucking legend, dude.
	Guys, yo, can we VIP him?
	Let me give him a VIP.
	That's a legend.
	It's R-W-B.
	Can mods do VIP or dude?
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	Okay, VIP R-W Black.
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	Did I Vlackbird?
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	Yo, Barry Gooseman, thank you for the gifted.
	Five subs also on Twitch.
	You're a legend.
	Blackbird, type in the chats on Twitch so I can tell if I got you the VIP Sorry guys one sec.
	Can I ask a question?
	There it is.
	I think I got him VIP.
	Thank you, man.
	Yeah, what's up?
	What do these subs do for you?
	What do the subs do for me?
	They're just my slaves.
	They worship him.
	Are they your subs?
	No, a sub.
	A sub is just it on Twitch.
	If you have a sub, a Twitch sub, it's like five or six dollars a month.
	You can watch ad-free.
	There's a couple other perks.
	You get a little badge or something like that.
	It's just a way to support the person.
	But how does one person give you a hundred?
	Oh, so other people can gift it out to the community.
	So you can buy one for yourself or you can buy one for other people.
	So he bought a hundred of them.
	So that's like what are the Twitch subs?
	How much are.
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	I think he's done it again.
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	Wait, hold on.
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	Yo, guys, W's in chat for Blackbird.
	Wait, is it?
	Wait, did he wait, did he do it again?
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	Wait, how can you tell?
	It says it twice.
	What the heck?
	Okay.
	So is that the equivalent of just like $500 then?
	I think so.
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	That was set up for somebody specific.
	Black.
	I'll do it.
	Maybe I'll do a custom Blackbird one.
	You're a legend, man.
	Guys, W's in the chat.
	Man, this guy, are you an oiler?
	What's that called for the gamers?
	Like the guys who.
	Oh, like Whalers?
	Oiler?
	Like he's from one of the oil states, right?
	In the Middle East, maybe?
	Right?
	Is it?
	I don't know.
	Dude, guys, W's in the chat.
	That's not why I call them Oilers, right?
	I like them Oilers because they're whales.
	Yeah, because you get oil from whales.
	Right.
	Isn't that why they call them oilers?
	Yeah.
	Not because they're rich in oil, but because you're making a reference to whales.
	Like, this is a whale.
	Yeah.
	I love that.
	Yeah.
	Well, Blackbird, thank you so much, man.
	Your patronage is, I think that's like he gifted 200.
	So that is it.
	Chat, is it $5 for Twitch or six or seven?
	I don't know.
	They bumped it or something.
	He's a saudi oil prince.
	Yeah.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Yeah, I think that's $1,000.
	What a fucking giga chat.
	What a giga chat.
	What?
	Oh my god, what a fucking legend, boys.
	Hold on, I'm going to play some of you.
	It only counts if he does it twice.
	There you go.
	Well, he did do it twice.
	It only counts if he does it three times.
	There you go.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	There you go.
	Thank you, man.
	Oh, well.
	I gotta end that.
	And then, wait, what else was I gonna play for him?
	Is there something else I can play for him?
	I don't know.
	Here, I'll just.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, let's get into the what?
	What?
	Oh, my God.
	He's on fire.
	Oh, my God.
	This man is on fire.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Oh, my God.
	He's on fire.
	I can't even see if anybody's sent in.
	Oh, no, it's.
	There we go.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Yo, Blackbird, you're crazy.
	You're wild.
	You're insane.
	You're not insane.
	Oh, he gifted.
	He also gifted one.
	He also gifted.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the 300 and one.
	Oh, 300.
	Speaking of.
	It only counts if he does four times.
	Yo, bang.
	Thank you for the prime for four months.
	Thank you, dude.
	Gritty bang.
	I'll shout.
	Oh, Ogle.
	Oh, my God.
	These guys are on fire.
	Pull it up.
	50 gifted on YouTube gifted memberships.
	Oh my god, Ogle, you're on fire.
	This guy's a legend.
	Sandwich chef.
	Thank you for the membership.
	And then we have Starbridge gifted three subs.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Thank you, Star.
	You're a legend.
	Blackbird, really appreciate it, man.
	Let me hook you up.
	If you want, send me a message on Instagram at whatever.
	Or you can send a message on the Twitch.
	I'll get you like a, I don't know if you're on Discord.
	I'll get you like a complimentary legendary.
	I'll do complimentary legendary role for you because that's quite a substantial amount of patronage, man.
	So thank you so much.
	They say tier one sub is five.
	So, okay, it's five.
	It's five per sub.
	I thought they raised the price on the subs.
	I don't know.
	I thought they were going to raise it, whatever.
	Okay, let's get back into the show.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much, Blackbird.
	You're a fucking legend.
	All right.
	Let's get into the questionnaire.
	Questionnaire here.
	Brenda.
	Actually, no, hold on.
	This is for.
	Oh, she's gone.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Here, we're just going to start.
	I have to wait until she's back.
	You know what?
	Here, we'll go into some of the pre-show notes then.
	Brenda.
	No, we did all of Brenda's notes.
	Do we have a Sophia here?
	That was one of the no-shows.
	And Angela, do we have an Angela?
	No, those are the flakes.
	Let's see.
	Patrice.
	Oh, no, that's she's gone.
	Hold on.
	I think it's just Patrice.
	We did all of Ivy.
	We did all of Brenda.
	We did.
	Callie.
	Let's see.
	You want to talk about what is real love?
	Because hard to find real love.
	You're dating a Jamaican.
	Jamai UKN.
	Jame UKN.
	Jame UKN.
	Real love.
	Do you feel guilty for saying that you're single while knowing you're in like a...
	Well, I think I said single because we never decided to get into the relationship.
	Okay.
	Since today, let's do one-on-one.
	It's kind of a relationship, right?
	Like.
	Hold on.
	Wait.
	Wait for it.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	Ogle.
	Ogle, good sir.
	Hold on.
	we have a champagne pop here so pop champagne Whoever enjoyed the champagne.
	Also, I don't know why it's not triggering.
	Yo, Ogle.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Ogle.
	He's a legend.
	And then I don't know why these aren't.
	Oh, get me.
	Get me the.
	Yeah, that's my.
	Period.
	Wow.
	So happy right now.
	Well, my YouTube memberships from Disabled.
	Yo, Kat, thank you for the gifted 50 memberships.
	Guys, W's in the chat for Kat.
	She's a homie.
	And then, Ogle, thank you again for the gifted 50.
	Kat is a legendary member over there in the Discord.
	Yeah, we'll get cups going.
	I feel like I. Hold on.
	Somebody want to ask a dating question while I'm dealing with the champagne situation.
	You can just finish your question.
	What is love?
	What is real love?
	Oh, God.
	No, no.
	I need a translator.
	What is love?
	I said a singer, but like, you know, I like him more than friends.
	So that looks dangerous.
	Bottom less here, they pop.
	I can open it.
	Oh, what the fuck?
	I can't open it.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, I took a one class.
	Oh, but this is champagne.
	There we go.
	I feel like it's gonna spill.
	Three, two, one.
	Oh, really?
	Oh.
	It wasn't quite a pop.
	Oh, it's so cute.
	I got you.
	At least I got it off, right, chat?
	All right.
	Oh my gosh.
	Here, just pass.
	Just pass him.
	Wait, everybody.
	Wait.
	Hold on.
	Alina, you already failed.
	What do I do?
	You're not of age.
	Everybody's over 21 besides Alina, right?
	You are not 21?
	She's 20.
	Yes.
	She's a vampire.
	Why are you guys 500?
	Why would.
	Hold on.
	I'm.
	No.
	Why are you?
	The bottle is here.
	Why are you passing empty cups down?
	I'm sorry.
	Give it to him.
	Or the cups.
	We're fixing the bottle.
	Why would you.
	Okay, sorry.
	I'm OCD.
	You're pass the algae.
	Brian, you're perfect.
	Pass the champagne.
	You're passing.
	Pass it down.
	Pass it down.
	Pass it.
	You cannot pass an empty cup down.
	Oh my god.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm losing my mind.
	Does anybody not want champagne?
	Patrice.
	Me want.
	Does anybody not want champagne?
	Who don't want?
	Thank you.
	I did.
	You want champagne?
	Can you teach them how to pass cups like their seventh graders, real quick?
	I don't think seventh graders could pass cuffs that well either.
	What?
	It's pretty rough after COVID.
	They lost two years of learning.
	Yeah, so they didn't have a lot of good skills, like motor skills.
	Some of them didn't have motor skills.
	Very sweet.
	We don't have motor skills.
	I mean, I'm at home.
	All right.
	There it is.
	So cheers to Ogle.
	Ogle.
	Ogle.
	Wait, is that Zadrobia?
	That's what it is in Reciprocity.
	Thank you, Ogle.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	Yummy.
	Thanks.
	Let me just get caught up here on a couple things and then we'll get into some of the stuff.
	Oh, man.
	Ogle, you're a legend.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good talk.
	Good talk.
	Okay, where were we?
	Oh, here we go.
	Let's just get into the questionnaire.
	Brenda, actually, wait, no.
	This is first going to Patrice and Callie.
	The statement is: are men insecure for caring about a woman's body count?
	You both say yes.
	No, I was confused earlier.
	Like, that was the first.
	Yeah, no, they're not insecure.
	Okay, so it's just, Callie, you think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	Of course.
	They, I mean, like, most guys, I don't know.
	Kind of like when I see so many guys in LA or random on TikTok, social media, they're talking about the guys care the body count, especially for especially for women.
	Yeah, they do.
	Be honest, they do.
	They do what?
	They care the body count.
	They're insecure.
	Yeah, insecure for that.
	And so you think it's like, why are they insecure?
	Of course, you know, like some type of a man love to have a woman like trophy or something like, you know, trophy with my girl or trophy.
	Okay, look, like I'm a relationship with this girl, or before that, he wanna show you one day to his friends, family.
	But he wants your dated with over 50 or more, like a lot of people, like share the like something.
	Body count means like having sex.
	So even we don't like no, body count is enough.
	I mean, like, even like in relationships, so how many have how many relationships you have?
	And if more count, and then you feel possible to insecure.
	Possibilities are lower.
	So how does it make him insecure?
	Oh, like, oh, you still talk with the ex, and then, like, kind of like when I have that highest body count, like, they assume, like, um, they try to judge, you know.
	I do definitely judge.
	So, is it wrong to judge somebody that you're looking to be in a relationship with?
	Wouldn't it be the correct thing to do to judge their past?
	I'm saying it's like just not generally just some type of insecure man, and even I have that experience or so.
	So, yes, I said yes.
	So, you think that men shouldn't care how many bodies a woman has?
	I hope not.
	I hope not, but they insecure for the body count.
	Who here cares about body count?
	I mean, like on a girl or a guy, like on a guy, yeah, on a guy.
	What's your body count?
	My body count.
	Let's see.
	I'm 33, and I would say I got a lot of body count since I moved to LA.
	Since I moved to LA, I would not say I'm not good at mess.
	But I let's say we can range.
	Yeah, let's say 30.
	Okay, let's let's wait.
	Let's say I'm not good at mess.
	Yeah, I'm not good at mess, baby.
	So, 30, 30.
	What's the number in Korean?
	Oh, two.
	Oh, Korean is two.
	Wait, what?
	Two for my having sex work.
	No, they want you to say the number in Korean.
	Like, the real number.
	What is like?
	Oh, people buy it in the Korean language.
	Samshmyang.
	Samshin Myung.
	Samsung Myung.
	He just said 30.
	She just said 30 in Korean.
	Yeah, something like something, something wrong?
	No, some shining.
	Oh, sounds like something wrong.
	Something wrong.
	Something wrong.
	Samshin.
	Something wrong.
	Alright.
	Okay, I guess going around the table, we'll go around.
	Brenzo?
	What's your body count?
	So it's in the highest single digits.
	So now.
	Maybe like 7, 8, 9.
	7, 8, 9.
	Liar.
	Hi.
	What about you?
	Can you guess?
	Nope.
	All long-term relationships, but four.
	Okay.
	Ivy?
	That's a tough question.
	Yeah.
	I remember I was a teacher.
	There are kids and I might watch this.
	I will pass on this.
	I don't think they watch.
	I don't know.
	They're not up to 10.
	Yeah, they're not watching.
	Nobody watches the show.
	Nobody watches this show.
	It gets pretty bad views.
	It does.
	I mean, it's really, we're on the, and we're only going down.
	You're good.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	Two.
	Well, seven.
	Alina?
	Two.
	Hey, come back here.
	Didn't you say you said it last show, right?
	Yeah, you can find it.
	What did you say last show?
	I think I need a range.
	Under 30.
	Under 30.
	Multiply it by 3, and that's the real number.
	All right, there you go.
	For everybody, for everybody.
	I don't want to single out Mary.
	I'm honest.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	I feel like a whore.
	Okay, okay, okay, okay.
	So the next statement, wrong for men to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight.
	Patrice, you said yes, that is wrong.
	No, I was so confused by your yes, no.
	But at what point did you get this figured out, or is this all just fucked?
	I don't know, honestly.
	All right.
	That's probably why you got dumped in using.
	Oh, gosh.
	Yes, that was why.
	You're poor reading comprehension.
	He actually made me take an IQ test, like before I was allowed to date him and a DNA test.
	I like that.
	I'm going to make all my future prospect girls take IQ tests.
	He made me get an ancestry genealogy test and also take an IQ test, a paid one and a free one.
	That's impressive.
	Okay.
	Who is this guy?
	I'm doing that shit from that.
	What was the point of the ancestry test?
	He only wants, like, I mean, he's not wrong for this.
	He wants children that look like him.
	So he was looking for somebody who's kind of the same mix as he is.
	So English, Irish.
	So that was the point of that.
	And then kids inherit, IQ is inherited through genes, and he was objectively high IQ.
	So he would only have children with somebody who was also high IQ.
	Otherwise, you're dulling down your gene pool.
	Like, it's the same thing.
	If you're 6'5 and you date a girl who's 5'1, your kids probably aren't gonna be 6'5.
	Anyways, I gotta move this on, but the statement is wrong for a man to refuse to date a woman because she is overweight.
	Stephanie, can you clarify what's it's not wrong?
	Oh, no, okay, because both remarks.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	Brenda, do men put in more effort?
	Oh, it depends.
	More effort when it comes to.
	Oh, should men pay on the first date?
	You say no.
	Patrice, you say yes.
	Callie, you say yes.
	Yes, Ivy, equal, Bailey.
	Stephanie, you say yes.
	Mary didn't respond to that one.
	Alina says yes.
	Should men pay on the first date?
	Yeah.
	Just show of hands who's yes on that one.
	Okay.
	It depends on who asks who out.
	Like if a girl's asking a guy out, like you're the one taking him out.
	And if he offers to pay, then sure.
	Yeah, except women don't ask men out.
	I just did it.
	I wanted a guy and I wanted to ask him out, so I asked him out and I took him out.
	Yeah, so I don't dispute that women occasionally, perhaps even rarely, ask men out.
	But if I were to ask you, of all the dates you've been on, did you ask them out or did they ask you out?
	I'd probably wager that they asked you out more frequently.
	And I think this would be the case for almost all women.
	So the whole whoever I should pay thing is kind of that would be a fair statement if women asked men out.
	It was 50-50.
	Yeah, I get it.
	I mean, look, it is what it is, but women just don't be asking men out like that.
	But I do have one question on the who should pay thing.
	Hmm.
	Well, it's not super related to this, but just show again who said yes.
	Boom, Will you take your husband's last name?
	Absolutely.
	I would take my non-husband's last name.
	You put a ring on my finger.
	Like, I'm.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Huh?
	Fool.
	You literally just raise your hand.
	Foo.
	Or would you take your husband's last name?
	Hyphen's last name.
	Oh, great.
	Oh, yes.
	Are you?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let me try something.
	Are you a fascist?
	Raise your hand.
	Forgive me.
	Champagne effect.
	Forgive me.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let me try something.
	Should North Korea annex South Korea?
	Raise your hands.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'll try to joke with you guys.
	Okay.
	Will you take your husband's last name?
	I would, but I want to keep my last name.
	Wait, what?
	You would?
	Yeah, I would keep my last name.
	Hyphen.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I would like to do the hyphen thing too.
	Because I have a very cool last name, I think.
	So?
	Okay.
	Who else will you take your last name?
	I would take it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I would.
	It's all I want.
	Yes.
	How about this?
	Just those of you who are like pretty positive about that, what if his last name's bad, but he still wants you to take his last name?
	You still take it?
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	I already have a bad last name.
	Okay.
	He already has a bad last name.
	I don't think that's it.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	So, wait, going to you two, you won't take your husband's last name.
	Oh, how do you do that?
	But you guys, I mean, do you, Ivy, do you consider yourself more traditional?
	Am I traditional?
	No, I'm not that traditional.
	You're a modern woman.
	Okay, Callie.
	Yeah.
	Chong.
	My Korean family name is Chong.
	Yeah.
	Chong.
	So I want to put the Chong.
	Chong.
	I want to keep the Chong.
	Oh, Chong.
	Chong.
	Chong.
	Yes, Chong.
	Okay.
	That's cool.
	Don't you think it's fair?
	I mean, like, so how would if a guy you were on a date with and he takes you to dinner?
	I don't know, it's a $100 dinner.
	And then the waiter comes, anything else?
	He's like, no, that's it.
	Two checks, please.
	Oh.
	Would there be a second date?
	No.
	Nope.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Well, here's the funny thing about what you guys just said.
	If I was dating a girl and I was wanting to marry her.
	Hold on.
	Just okay, for the sake of it.
	If I wanted to marry her and she was like, well, I want to hyphenate our last names.
	I'd be like, goodbye.
	Can I ask, you guys ever at least offer to pay for half the bill?
	Always.
	Always.
	I always offer to pay.
	But then if he was like, okay, cool.
	And then you guys wouldn't talk.
	We got in a fight of who could pay.
	I wanted to pay on our first date so badly and he refused.
	But going back to my point here, why do y'all want to keep all the traditions that benefit you guys?
	Man takes initiative, man takes the lead, men has to ask you out, men has to move things forward physically, etc., etc., etc.
	Man pays for the date, man protects you, man provides.
	But you won't take his last name?
	What?
	That's giving him a name.
	We said we want to take it.
	Yeah, that's not taking his last name.
	But then, like, see, for example, like, sometimes if you combine my name with someone else's name, it sounds cute.
	Don't care.
	Wait, why?
	I don't care if his name is the worst.
	I don't care if his last name is Hitler.
	You're taking his last.
	Hold on.
	Wait, hold on.
	I don't know about that.
	Oh, yeah, that was.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	Let me just get out of the fucking.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Let me walk that one back.
	But, anyways, if his name is really bad, I don't know.
	It's like corn buggy.
	Corn dongle.
	You take his last name.
	Yep.
	But so what about your kids, though?
	Do they get his last name or do you hyphenate the kids' names too?
	Hyphenate everyone.
	Hyphenate?
	Hyphenate the kids?
	You know what?
	That's fine, but you got to deal with a guy who's going to go 50-50.
	You got to take initiative.
	You got to lean in for the first kiss.
	I don't know.
	Is it an Asian thing?
	But most Asian moms don't take the husband's last name.
	I mean, L. For Asian guys, I guess.
	I don't know.
	No, yeah.
	Like, my parents are father.
	My mom has like a separate last name from my dad, my grandma as well, my aunts and uncles.
	Like, it's not common in my culture.
	Wait, so in you're Vietnamese, right?
	Vietnamese, Chinese.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but you're American, so who cares?
	Oh, okay.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Am I American?
	I don't know.
	Well, I mean, you.
	I mean, people on this chat say I'm not American.
	But I mean, you have American citizenship.
	I have American citizenship, yes.
	But I will say, like, if worse comes to shove, like, maybe people in Asia would accept me a lot more than American people.
	So it's like, is home where like, you know, you were born or is it where you make it, right?
	Is my country where I was born or is it where I can make it to?
	Yeah.
	I don't specifically know the culture in China or in Vietnam.
	I think it's, I don't know if it's a Vietnamese thing or Chinese thing, but I don't know.
	And my, like, a lot of my friends in Asia, like, yeah, I think it's some East Asian, like, it's like, you don't always have to take the guy's last name, and it's always, it's like totally fine.
	So it's so funny when like my friends are like, oh my god, happy birthday to like Miss Chi.
	And I was like, oh, it's Miss Chung.
	Because her last name is Chung.
	Wait, so I do, I mean, look, I'm, I Google this when it comes to Chinese names.
	It says traditionally patrilineal.
	So children usually take their father's last name.
	Oh, okay, but hold on.
	However, women do not legally change their names after marriage.
	But the children take the father's last name.
	Okay.
	And then do they take the last name in Vietnam?
	In most cases, fathers pass their last names to their children.
	And when couples marry, women typically don't take their husband's last name.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	But the children take the father's last name.
	Yeah, I have my dad's last name.
	Yeah.
	So are you fine with your kids having the father's last name?
	I guess so.
	I didn't know that was actually, that's like the first time I never actually researched it.
	But it's like the typical.
	I'm like, okay, I don't want to make it difficult.
	I guess they can just take their dad's last name.
	Yeah.
	Ryan, I have a question for you.
	So I know that you're not on the premise of like legal marriage and legally doing all of that.
	I've seen your other, some of your other stuff.
	Would the woman that you chose to be with long-term and the mother of your children, would you still want her to take your last name?
	Obviously, you'd want the kids too, but would you want her too?
	It is sort of a convention of marriage.
	The children would take my last name.
	As far as the woman, if we weren't married.
	Like, would you want her to change her Facebook name and her Instagram name and all of that and her credit cards?
	Would you want her to go by whatever, then your last name?
	But you're not marrying her?
	That's a good question.
	I actually, I don't, I'm not sure.
	The kids 100% take the last name.
	I don't know if I would honestly care.
	It would be better if she did take it.
	I don't know how much I would care.
	Would you still put a ring on her finger and like never marry her?
	Like long-term, forever engagement type thing?
	Like, does she still get the ring, even if you're not getting legally married?
	No ring.
	But she has to ruin her body and push out kids.
	Like, not that, that's an honor, by the way.
	Like, I think that that's the best thing a woman can do with her life is to have children.
	But.
	Yeah.
	But she, like, she has.
	Yeah, I work.
	I work to provide.
	I ruin my body too.
	But she doesn't even get the ring or anything that says like.
	Just to be clear, I know you're laughing over there, but like for the vast majority of human history, men were laborers and literally ruined their bodies much worse than women going through pregnancy.
	And honestly, I can make the argument that like most, a lot of work that both men and women have today involves like copious amounts of sitting, which is actually absolutely terrible for your body.
	And so, this idea that men through their work and labor don't like hurt their body.
	Yeah, like, and men die much earlier because of all the additional stress that men have as compared to women.
	So, well, yeah, can I add something to that though?
	Okay, so I like how you mentioned that, oh, men labor, and so they do hurt their bodies, but that's like physical, like, external stuff.
	When women have kids, their body's like never the same after that.
	What do you mean?
	Like, like, uh, like, if I don't, oh, I'm not a gynecologist, but I just know that one of my doctor friends told me that, you know, he wanted to have kids with his wife, and his wife was like, He was like, how many kids do you want?
	The wife was like, oh, I can't have more than two.
	It will, like, physically ruin me.
	What does that mean?
	I don't know what that means.
	It just means that, like, the more kids you have, the more risk you are at, like, your health declining.
	And also, like, you know, like death at birth.
	It's like, I know, like, obviously technology is like more advanced now, but there are still mothers that will die in childbirth.
	I mean, but my understanding, though, is like the greatest risk of like death or like some sort of complication is going to come in the first or second.
	But once a woman's been pregnant once, there's a like, I'm pretty sure if she went through the first one or two pregnancies, fine.
	The outlook for her subsequent pregnancies, I don't think it's, it's worse the more kids you have.
	In fact, I think it would be an indicator, oh, okay, you've been through this before.
	Like, I actually think you're probably better suited to continue having more kids.
	Oh, I think you should do some research about this because actually that's why they cap at women, like surrogate women that make money off of getting pregnant.
	They kept them at like eight or something.
	Like if you have any more than eight kids, like through surrogacy or like giving birth to eight or more kids, you might die.
	You could look this up.
	I'm not denying that there are health consequences to pregnancy.
	It does take a toll on your body, probably in terms of if you're looking at the cortisol, women are under more chemical stress during pregnancy.
	It's a stressful process.
	So that certainly has an impact and there could be some degree of accumulation that goes on.
	But I mean, I think you could say this about it.
	I suppose the more times you do anything, you know, there is, in each instance, there's going to be a chance of something bad happening.
	If you play Russian roulette, well, I mean, I don't think that's a fair comparison.
	Eventually, you're going to die.
	But if, you know, if you, you know, the more times you get into a car, it probably statistically increases your chances eventually of getting into a car crash.
	If you only drive once or twice, you know, chances are low.
	But if you drive all the way, but I'm not.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	You're not sold on that.
	Like, the idea.
	The original point was what?
	I think the original point you were saying.
	Oh, you were asking me.
	No, you were saying, oh, okay, well, women ruin their bodies.
	Not only ruin them, but she's, you know, okay, so you enter into this agreement.
	And okay, I'm going to, like, let's just hypothetical star.
	You and I are dating.
	I'm going to submit to you.
	I'm going to listen to you.
	I'm not going to talk back to you.
	I'm going to cook.
	I'm going to clean.
	I'm going to take care of the kids.
	I'm going to do everything.
	I'm going to make you very happy.
	And you're not going to marry me.
	I'm not taking your last name.
	So I get provided, like, the providing and protecting.
	And I get to have, I get the privilege of having your children or whatever agreement.
	Well, you don't get that much protection because you get to take the bullet.
	So my question was, like, I don't, like, I don't even get like the ring, like the symbol, like, like, I'm his.
	Like, he claimed me.
	Put it right in.
	He put a ring on it.
	She's like, that's it.
	Boom.
	Mine.
	Mine.
	You're mine.
	You're mine.
	That's it.
	How'd you feel about a collar?
	What the f?
	Excuse me.
	Would you ever cheat on your, like, the mother of your children, the one that you said that you're going to be with forever?
	Would you step out?
	No.
	Even if she was, like, old.
	Dave Linda Matri.
	Even if she was old, no, I would be old too.
	I don't care.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Complicated.
	What's complicated then?
	Oh, we have a chat.
	Here, let me do some chats here.
	Christopher Murphy, rather, rather, rather.
	Okay.
	All right, there it is.
	Boom.
	All right, we have boom, boom, boom.
	Beautiful.
	I'm just going to move on to the next thing then.
	You know what?
	Let's start from down here.
	Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners?
	I think everybody says, oh, no.
	Callie, you said no on that.
	Why is that?
	Can you tell me the question again?
	Yeah, I get it.
	But can you tell me the transgender thing that I kind of don't want to?
	I kind of don't want to.
	Let me read.
	So, okay.
	Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose?
	So, does a transgender person, should they tell the other person that they're transgender?
	You think no.
	Well, like, I try to think about if the transgender is my friend, you know, like, but sometimes the transgender is so beautiful, like lady boy, not lady boy, but I'm like, they are more beautiful than seriously, they are 10-10.
	I can tell.
	But just to have a peek, just that's it.
	So, I'm just well, that's up to the partner.
	Even the transgender didn't mention about it, but later after their conversation in person, then if the partner tripping about it, that's not work.
	But if it is possible to understand that, so I think I don't have to, yeah, you don't have to say that to speak for me.
	You're like, oh, me so horny!
	Me love you a long time.
	Bro, Damien, why did you play that?
	Excuse me.
	Damien.
	How could you?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, wait, really quick.
	Dark Oman42 donated $200.
	If you have kids in your 20s, your body snaps back much quicker and better.
	But feminism convinced you all you had to wait till your 30s and you recover more slowly and not as well overall.
	That's true.
	Oh.
	Gotta start pumping out kids right away.
	All right, Dark Omen.
	Thank you for the Streamlabs message, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Okay.
	I think I understand your position.
	I have a question.
	Sure.
	To you.
	Do you think that kind of takes away the choice that people should have when choosing their partner?
	Like, I have a preference, a sexuality preference to be straight.
	So do you feel like you're robbing me of that?
	Well, that gets into our next question, which is: is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
	To which you wrote yes, and then Ivy, you also said yes.
	So we agree.
	Oh, well.
	Do you want to answer Mary's question though?
	Oh, first of all, I'm straight.
	I love Dick.
	I love men.
	First over, just, yeah, I love Dick.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But I'm saying it's just um try to literally represent them.
	You know, I'm not a transgender, but I'm like, I try to understand them, their life.
	So, um, of course.
	Yeah, just a tattoo.
	Like, do you like girls at all or just men?
	Just hell man.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So you're, you go, you're at a bar.
	You go out to a bar, you're talking to a guy.
	You find a super pretty boy, totally your type.
	You guys are hitting it off really well.
	You go back to your room.
	Yeah.
	Pants come off.
	He, I don't know, has no vagina.
	Oh, yeah.
	How would you feel?
	Well, absolutely.
	Before go to before taking to my room, I got attractive from him, right?
	From her, from the partner.
	So that's why I took him, her to my place.
	After I did, um, I'm straight, but I'm gonna talk to her, like, baby.
	I don't know whoever, but baby, I'm a fucking stray.
	But you know, since I took her to my place, I'm gonna enjoy, you know, just a focus, just a fall.
	You know, I don't know.
	Maybe often.
	I'm not sure.
	No, of course, I'm gonna feel it.
	Like how she's, I know.
	Like, oh, I think I know where you're coming from.
	I think I know where you're coming from.
	I think I understand.
	Yeah.
	It's like you're, there's like a type for it.
	Like you're like a type of in like the rainbow where like you like someone for the personality.
	Autism spiritual.
	Maybe.
	No, the LGBTQ plus community.
	There's a things like you think it's called demisexual transaction.
	Yes, that's the one.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Pansexual.
	But Ivy, you said it's straight for a man to date a trans woman.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You think that's straight?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I said so.
	Yeah.
	Why is that?
	Because I think that like now that trans woman or yeah, like that person, the uh that woman, yeah, that woman now identifies a woman and she like got the surgery and so she has the female parts.
	And so I think that that's like straight.
	If the guy like likes that woman, then he likes her.
	What if they still have a penis?
	Oh no, but you said trans woman.
	So I'm assuming trans women can't do that.
	No, I think that transgender people, like I think they fully, in my head, I think that they fully went through with the surgery.
	So you don't think if they don't have the surgery that they're not trans or they're not women?
	Yeah, I think that's what I'm saying.
	Like what if they dress up like a woman?
	Like the lady boys.
	Like they still have penis.
	True, those lady boys.
	Are they women?
	Are they women?
	Or are they still men?
	Ooh, they're actually like physically strong like men though.
	And so I think they're the ones that have had the gender reassignment surgery.
	They're biologically men.
	They have the chromosomes of a male.
	But then they can't reproduce.
	They can't have children.
	Well, some women can't reproduce and have children at the time.
	Do you think that transgender women are they female?
	Transgender women, are they female?
	Yes.
	But do you understand the differentiation I'm making here between woman and female, right?
	So woman would be gender, female would be sex.
	Oh.
	So do you think they've changed their sex?
	What are you teaching these seventh graders?
	I don't touch on this subject, actually.
	They would go into a separate class to learn about this.
	Wait, how old were they?
	I taught fifth graders.
	Fifth graders?
	Wait, fifth graders were learning trans stuff.
	Yeah, there's like a community.
	Like they, it's like it's actually required in all like California schools, you have to have the LGBTQ flag in the back of your clutch.
	What?
	No fucking money.
	Hell wait, what?
	What's wrong with that?
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	What's wrong with that?
	Don't worry about that, but is it true?
	I mean, that's why they made us put it up in our rooms.
	Wait, hold on.
	Do you question, was there a written communication about this?
	What do you mean?
	Like a memo.
	Did a memo go out?
	An email?
	No, no, no.
	They just gave us a flag and was like, oh, it's who's they?
	The administrators.
	LAUSD?
	No, I taught in the Bay Area.
	Was it a public school?
	Yeah.
	No, it's a charter school, so public, private school.
	So did the parents understand that this was occurring?
	Yeah, of course.
	And they signed written consent in that I consent to my child being torn.
	These parents want their kids to go to that school.
	They can't get in unless they apply.
	Wait, but hold on.
	You said a private school?
	It's a public charter school.
	So it's a public school.
	It's publicly funded, but privately run.
	Like a tech school.
	Publicly funded, but what does that mean?
	I think that's a thing, but I don't.
	I taught there.
	It's a thing.
	But what does it mean privately run?
	So it's privately run.
	So it's like they're not connected to SFUSD.
	They have different rules.
	So if FSUSD do not want to have the flags, then they have a separate rule.
	The school that I worked at was a private charter school.
	So they had their own law.
	I thought it was a public charter school.
	It's a public charter school.
	So it's publicly funded.
	So they use taxpayers' money.
	And they also take funds from like other companies and stuff.
	So they can, it's like very weird.
	Interesting.
	And then they can like, so teachers usually like they have a contract.
	So if you're at a public school, it's really hard to fire a teacher no matter what they did.
	But if you're at a charter school, it's like you're at will.
	You're like a tech employee.
	It's like the minute they don't like you, they're like, we're going to fire.
	So they said you had to put up a gay pride flag.
	It's not like they said it.
	They just gave it to us and then they just put it up for us.
	Did she not just say that they had to put up the flags and all that?
	Yeah, oh yeah, we have to put up the flags.
	I think they went to a separate room to learn about like trans.
	No, no, no, no.
	The kids, some kids opted in to like during the lunch, during the lunch time, which is like their own time, then they can take this class and it's 30 minutes every Wednesday and then they just go and they give them a pass.
	About what?
	And it's like a space for them to talk about stuff.
	I wasn't a part of it, so I don't know.
	Yeah.
	You brought that up in the context of the conversation about trans stuff.
	Oh, I brought it up because I think someone asked me about seventh graders.
	Yeah.
	What you taught the seventh graders.
	I said that I didn't teach any of this stuff to 7K because I don't like touching on this.
	Yeah.
	Because I actually was really bad.
	I got like their pronouns mixed up sometimes.
	And so I was like not someone that they would listen about.
	Like, you know, sometimes these students, like, they change their names like every other month.
	Yeah.
	One minute they're like Christian.
	The next is like, I'm Milo.
	Okay, I'm going to interrupt you.
	That really catches me by surprise because in the classes that I'm in right now to be a teacher in Texas, nowhere whatsoever, if anything, the contrary.
	I mean, you said Texas, right?
	I taught in California.
	I know that.
	I know that.
	I'm just saying catches.
	Yeah, she was teaching SF, which is.
	SF is the most liberal.
	San Francisco is like totally ideologically captured.
	um damn that's okay anyways we can't linger too long on that but But I guess really quick on the whole straight thing.
	So can people change their sex?
	Yes.
	How?
	I think you just said that you get surgery.
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm just going to go ahead and say, yeah, you can change your gender, but I don't think you can change your sex.
	I mean, you can change your gender anytime you want.
	Like, right now, I can say, I'm a boy, I'm a he.
	But then, sex-wise, it's a part.
	It's a part of your body.
	So then you're actually physically changing a part of your body, and so you change your sex.
	That part is dictated by genetics.
	You cannot.
	It's a part of your body.
	You can't explain your biology.
	You can't change your chromosomes.
	You can't change that.
	You can chop off whatever you want.
	I can chop off one arm and I can become a one-armed person.
	Doesn't mean I was born a one-armed person.
	You know what I mean?
	I can go tomorrow and go get a bunch of plastic surgery and morph myself into a different person, but it's not who I am and it's not what I look like.
	Just like you can't be a man and go get some surgery and then the next day you wake up and you're a woman.
	But they also do like hormone therapy as well.
	It doesn't matter.
	You're still a man.
	You still have the wrong chromosomes.
	You still can't reproduce.
	You're still a man.
	But there's some women that can't reproduce, some men that doesn't.
	That's not pertinent.
	That's a false person.
	That's not what they're worried about.
	Yeah.
	I'm confused.
	Like, oh, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	If a man, okay, if a man put a bag over his head and you throw him into a room and another guy penetrated him and they just, you know, you just called John Jill, but it's really a guy and it's friction-based.
	Is that guy straight?
	He is.
	Is that guy straight?
	Screwed another man.
	Is that guy straight?
	Is that so?
	But then does he know that's a man?
	No, I can do it.
	I think I'll do this really simply.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So I'm dating a trans.
	Well, hold on.
	I don't want to say it in a way it will get fucking clipped.
	A man, a cis, I hate this term, cis man, is dating a trans woman.
	They proceed to, he has anal sex with her, her.
	Is that straight?
	Yeah, that's still straight.
	I mean, you have anal sex with a woman.
	Yeah, but that would be, that would be straight to have sex.
	What if he talked your girlfriend's dick?
	Is that straight?
	What if he what?
	Well, she so your girlfriend's dick, is that straight?
	But Andrew, her position that we have to contend with is that she only acknowledges that it's a transgender woman if they've had the post-operative, like they're post-op.
	So there would not be a penis.
	So, but she keeps saying, but wait, these are these are non-reproductive, right?
	And you say, well, wait a second, there's some women who can't reproduce.
	That's fair.
	What makes those women women?
	I don't know.
	Like, they were born women.
	You don't know what makes women who can't reproduce still women.
	Wait, you said they were born women?
	They're chromosomes.
	Yeah, okay.
	Yeah, they were born female.
	Yeah, so when you say there's some women who can't reproduce, you're just affirming her position that they're still women, even though they can't reproduce, right?
	Yeah, like they were born.
	Yeah.
	So what makes them women?
	I guess, like, if a man can't reproduce, is he still a man?
	Yeah, he's still a man.
	Okay.
	Yeah, right.
	But then what makes them a woman?
	If it's not about reproduction, there must be someone who's also about your experience, right?
	Like, if you identify as a woman, then you get all the experiences that a woman would get.
	Same if you were a transgender woman, then you're a different.
	Can I identify as being black?
	I mean, you can't because you aren't black.
	You don't get all the same experiences.
	You don't get all the same experiences.
	Hang on.
	What if I had all the experiences of a black man?
	Could I then identify as being black?
	Do you have like that skin color?
	Well, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Why would I need the skin color?
	I thought it was about experience.
	Yeah, but you're saying that why would you get those same experiences if you didn't have the same skin color?
	How are you going to get the same experience when you look like a dude with a wig on?
	How are you going to get the same experience as a woman?
	I mean, a dude with a wig on is going to have a but depending on their race, they're going to have the same experience as opposed to like different races and ethnicities.
	Yeah, but why do you think that, like, okay, so what you're saying then by this logic is that really, really, really ugly women, right, can't be women because they don't have the experience of women.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	They have an experience of being a I never said anything about an experience that I think like something that women literally bond over and every woman goes through.
	An experience that a trans woman would never in their life experience, surgery or not, they would never have a monthly cycle ever.
	So all of these experiences, I'm confused what you're referring to because that's a pertinent experience to being a woman.
	I think like there's some questions on there about like how, you know, do women have equal rights to men?
	Like are they treated equally?
	Or like about a gender pay gap.
	So I'm thinking about those type of experiences as opposed to like genetic experiences.
	Bear with me here.
	Bear with me.
	Yeah.
	Let's say a woman is really ugly and just looks like a man.
	So everybody treats her like a man.
	Okay, that's what she experiences.
	Hang on.
	That's what she experiences.
	Is she still a woman?
	I mean, but then even though she's treated like I think you're asking me a question, I'm trying to answer it.
	Yes, I'm answering right now.
	Like you're going to answer a question I didn't ask you, but going.
	No, no, no, okay.
	Let me, okay, I'm going to say the answer.
	If it's not the, then, then say it's not.
	Okay.
	But I think that you're saying that, I'm going to reiterate.
	So this woman looks like a man, and so she's treated like a man, right?
	Right.
	And that's, is that what she wants?
	Some women want to be more masculine and then they, oh, so she wants to be a woman.
	So she, okay, okay.
	So in that case, even though she looks like a man, but she is a woman, but then that means like biologically she's a woman, so she'll have these monthly cycles.
	So she have a similar experience.
	What makes her a woman is her biology?
	I mean, in that instance, yes.
	What's that?
	I'm super confused, so help me out here.
	Yeah, it's not like super black and white.
	Wait, it can't just be about sweet.
	It can't just be about the experience.
	Because if it's just about the experience, then if you experienced only being treated like a man, you would be categorized as a man by your logic.
	But if you say, wait a second, no, there's still a woman because you default to biology, then the default is the biology, right?
	No, I'm saying that her experience is going through monthly cycles of having a period.
	So that's why I would say.
	Yeah, and I think that because she's had that.
	So then what makes them a woman is their biology?
	No, no, again, I didn't say that either.
	I'm just saying that it's like all these combined experiences of how people interact with you and how, I guess, like your body works.
	Then I think those combined, you know, create the experiences of daily, of women in general, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Do you not think that's like supporting delusional people?
	We should just give them what they want.
	Because they feel like it.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	Because it's operating out of reality.
	Like the mindset is not aligned with it.
	Should we support delusional people?
	Okay, so I think if someone were like, I was born as a male in this lifetime, but I believe I was meant to be female.
	Then I don't think that's delusional.
	It's like they really believe this.
	And there's like movies about it too, right?
	Where like some people go crazy.
	They want to die because they want to become a woman, right?
	And it has that really famous actor in it.
	I forgot what it was.
	What if I want to be a cat?
	Because I feel like you may know this.
	There is actually, I think, a study where they took the brain scans of transgender women and males and like, basically like the parts of the brain lit up of the people who like, wanted to be the opposite gender in the way that they wanted it, of the gender they wanted it to be.
	Do you know anything about that?
	Yeah, a lot of them are gay men.
	So here's the question.
	Right, it's like if you had done that same study with the same sample right, and they weren't gay men, would you get the same result?
	And we don't know right, because many of these studies are biased.
	And then the second is, brain scan technology really doesn't tell us very much because the sample sizes are so small.
	Right, you're talking about different areas which are affected in the brain especially, they're talking about things like gray matter or various chemicals, this type of thing.
	What you would need is you would need a sample size large enough where oh, I scanned your brain, You feel like a man, and your brain supports that.
	We just don't have that kind of thing.
	There's just not enough studies.
	There's not enough data.
	But the reason why I brought that-there's not enough data because when you donate to shit like that, they don't use the money for unbiased, scientific, relevant data.
	What makes that unbiased, though?
	Or what do you think?
	They follow a scientific method.
	They're all funded.
	Many of them are funded by LGBTQ groups.
	But don't you feel like having biased.
	Don't you feel like having data, though, in areas that we don't have enough information is no matter what is important and like vital for just our social experience?
	It could be, but there's publishing bias which happens, and there's other biases which go into a lot of the ways these studies are conducted.
	So in other words, you don't want to do science by trying to affirm a worldview and so then adjusting for the affirmation of the worldview.
	Supposed to run an experiment, the results are what the results are, and that's it.
	But that's not the way that many times in sociology these things are conducted.
	And what you're talking about is a mixture of sociology and then a little bit of neuroscience when it comes to the scanning.
	So the results are, so let's just put it this way.
	I'll be the most charitable I can be.
	Those results for all brain scan studies right now are inconclusive.
	And since they're inconclusive, they're not really showing us anything.
	We're not going to bank on them because they're not science, right?
	We can't get something conclusive out of them yet.
	Well, there's just not enough data.
	But again, if there were more studies, then we could conclude something that's factual.
	But right now, it's all like, he's saying, she's saying.
	But since there aren't, and we can't conclude, then we're not going to defer to it, right?
	Like, that would be like me saying, well, what if we had a bunch of studies that affirmed my biased worldview?
	Yeah, well, that's all that's going to happen.
	Well, then I guess we'd have to believe your bias.
	Plus, this is your perspective based off of your situations.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I just brought that up only.
	That would be no good.
	Yeah, I only brought that up because I wouldn't agree that people are delusional if they truly feel something and they're to the degree of like wanting, you know, to harm themselves.
	And there has to be something that happened during development where it's like, you know, like it's literally inside of them in their chemicals to where like, you know, this is something that they truly need.
	You're trying to intellectualize something that is not based in reality.
	Well, only because there's studies on it.
	Because they're studies, even though they're inconclusive, there's still some data.
	I don't understand what you're saying.
	Hang on, what you're saying makes sense.
	And if you don't mind, I'll reiterate the position.
	You can tell me if I get this wrong.
	But I think your position is just this, that clearly this isn't delusion.
	These people obviously are feeling this in a very big way, or they wouldn't be so adamantly pursuing it, right?
	So this probably is not delusional, right?
	Yeah, and I do feel like some people do take advantage of, you know, those who deal with this, and that definitely, you know, creates situations where people feel like, oh, yeah, they are delusional because they take a situation and defy an entire group.
	I don't think it's like fair to like do that.
	You can feel however you want to feel, but don't make it my problem.
	Like, don't let it negatively impact my choice of that.
	Wait a second.
	So schizophrenics are not delusional, right?
	Yeah, they're not.
	I don't know the answer to that question.
	What?
	Wait.
	A schizophrenic, by your logic, would not be delusional.
	I mean, they really, really feel that way.
	They really, really hear the voices.
	They really, really want to do what the voices say.
	So therefore, they're not delusional.
	I don't know the case studies on schizophrenia.
	Yeah, so I wouldn't be able to do that.
	I do medical assessments and delusions are actually one of the symptoms that we use as a marker to dictate and help us assess the scale of a medical emergency or the probability of one.
	And a schizophrenic episode is actually one of the markers, like scientifically in medicine, is delusions.
	So, I mean, just so you know, like that is an aspect of the way that we would measure if something was delusional or not would be only the only way I could think of is if we were looking towards behavior which was abnormal.
	Otherwise, how would you know it was delusional or not?
	Like if somebody came over to you and said that gremlins were visiting them at night and stealing their socks, my assumption is you would think that this was such abnormal belief or abnormal behavior that they were suffering from some kind of delusion, right?
	So why wouldn't we map that on also to other groups like this?
	And, well, we do.
	And that's why we have things like gender dysmorphia and other kind of clinical psychoses for this is because we're trying to describe this delusional behavior, right?
	I mean, there's a reason that it's actually categorized as a mental illness.
	Gender dysphoria.
	I think.
	Oh.
	Graffito Tact donated $200.
	Yo, Graffito, thank you.
	Sorry for the delinquency.
	So surgically created the heart, Jay, is identical to a real one.
	Come on.
	If a man lays pipe and goes to town on that thing, it's tearing apart into a bloody, disgusting mess.
	What the heck?
	That's so graphic.
	Yeah, so just very brief.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay.
	Do I have to answer that?
	Do you really think?
	Sure, why not?
	Oh.
	I mean, because I have a lot of friends that are transgender, and then I think so.
	Yeah, I've seen them and I'll show you.
	You've seen the pussies?
	No, I'm like, I mean, I've seen it in my friend's face.
	You've seen the vagina.
	Yeah, it's like we change in front of each other and like, you have a lot of fun.
	Have they been like spread?
	No, no.
	I don't even see my real female, like, not real, but like Freudian slaves.
	Oops.
	Oops, you said real.
	But just real quick, back to this chair one, just I just have one more question for you.
	If you had a person who walked around all day on all fours and barked like a dog and ate out of a dish, but refused to act any other way than that, would you say that that was delusional?
	Is that for who?
	Do you say chair one?
	Yeah, chair one, you, yeah.
	Well, so I know why you're asking that question, and it's like there's also gender identity that plays, you know, it's a big role when it comes to just.
	Yeah, this person identifies as a dog.
	But that but their gender identity or their sex, like their.
	What do you mean?
	Just their identity.
	We're now a dog.
	I don't know.
	I wouldn't compare a person to someone barking like a dog.
	But they feel like they are.
	They want to be a bad person.
	Yeah, if they feel like that, that's all that they want to be.
	And they're on all fours all day, and they bark like a dog.
	They act like a dog.
	They eat out of a dog dish.
	Would you say that that's delusional?
	Well, yeah, because they're acting like a dog, but it's not like, it's not the opposite sex.
	They're not trying to act like the opposite sex and identify.
	What makes that delusional, though?
	What makes that actually delusional?
	Because it's not a male or a female.
	It's not a human.
	What about people that want to identify?
	Right, right.
	So it's what makes delusionals is not the thing, right?
	What about people that say that they don't have a gender and they're a they or an it?
	What do you think of that?
	Is that delusional?
	What do I think of it?
	I mean, oh, I don't, that's the reason why I wasn't really in the beginning of the conversation because I don't know how it feels to be in the position of needing to identify as it or they.
	And I'm not really one to like judge on that.
	So I mean, I don't have any delusional because it's not true.
	Like, that's what makes it delusional, right?
	I don't have any opinion on it because I don't know how it feels.
	I feel like I do believe if they want to identify that way, I'm not one to judge.
	I know other people are going to, and cool, that's how you want to.
	Here's a less rare example then.
	Let me just try it this way.
	Are you aware that there are many, many people on this earth who believe they are vampires?
	Literally.
	They believe that they are vampire.
	They will go off.
	And they live a vampiric life.
	They live in coffins, not kidding, right?
	They won't go out in the sunlight.
	They won't do any of those things because they believe that they're vampires.
	They even drink blood.
	Not kidding.
	They even drink blood.
	Are they delusional?
	They're trying to be a fictional character or whatever, perhaps.
	But yeah.
	No, it's not fictional.
	They are vampires.
	They are drinking blood.
	They are acting as though a vampire would act 100%.
	They are doing all of the things that vampires do.
	What makes them fictional?
	No, no.
	Like vampires are like, unless vampires exist, and I'm just sounding dumb, but I mean, the type that you're telling, the Bramstroker, Dracula, vampire.
	But these people are vampires.
	I mean, they must be because they act identical to them.
	Well, yeah, they're acting as if they're not human.
	So like, yeah.
	No, vampires are human.
	Well, then.
	What?
	Where are we getting this information from?
	What if tomorrow?
	I'm honestly, I'm confused.
	Just for time management stuff, I have to move it on.
	Andrew, do you have a final thing on this or good to move it?
	Yeah, it's just a vampire is human.
	A vampire would meet all of the criteria that you would have for an identity.
	You believe that you are the thing.
	You act as though you are the thing 100%.
	You are a human, right?
	Why are you not delusional?
	What would make that not delusional?
	I come from a place where it's male and female.
	That's it.
	And I just, I don't judge, and that's it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Two things really quick.
	The previous thing from Graffito tagged.
	I want to come back to it briefly.
	Graffito, thank you for the TTS.
	I apologize for the delay.
	I had to, I was up for a bit.
	He said it's not the same.
	Is it your position that I don't know how else to say?
	Natural pussy, I guess?
	I don't know what better term.
	Do you think it's the same as trans pussy?
	Wait, have you experienced it?
	So this one, they fuck with the Enner.
	They fuck with Enner, they not make the...
	WHAT?!
	I'm not transparent.
	I heard it.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	Ivy, do you think it's the same?
	I actually don't like to comment things I don't have knowledge about, so I actually don't know about this.
	Like, if it's the same or not, because I am not a male.
	I've not tried.
	Well, here, that's fine.
	You don't know about it, but perhaps if I provide some descriptive, some sort of descriptions, that might help.
	So, okay.
	So, and you do know at least you're a biological female, right?
	Like, you're not trans, right?
	No.
	Would you be upset if somebody thought you were trans?
	I wouldn't.
	You wouldn't find that.
	They just think I have like masculine features then.
	But you have your own experience as a woman.
	You have your own self-awareness there.
	Do you think that, for example, if say I don't know where we would put it, but let's say somebody put a hole in your armpit.
	Oh.
	A hole.
	Oh.
	Surgically, they put a hole where your armpit is.
	And then you had to keep that hole open.
	And then a man stuck its penis inside your armpit hole.
	Do you think it would feel the same?
	You think it would be the same as pussy?
	I don't know.
	I'm not a man.
	I really cannot say.
	How about this?
	How about this then?
	So I believe the procedure that they do is they surgically put a hole in that area where the penis once was and they use tissue from the penis and the testicles and the scrotum.
	They like fold it.
	They like, cut and like, fold and like, and then they I only know, growing up I watched this screwed up show called I Am Jazz Jazz, I Am Jazz, and she went to get this like plasty and they explained it all in great detail on a kid, like a kid's family show on TLC, and I remember, like I just remember it and it's.
	And then you have to do this thing called dilating, where you put these like giant things in every day to like create yeah so, but so let me ask you this, let's say that uh, somebody had um, they didn't identify as trans, but they uh, maybe they're, they got, I don't know how this would ever happen they their, they landed on a,
	a pole oh, and it forced their balls and penis inside of them oh, and like, would you think that that's a vagina?
	I mean, I don't know, I again, I have not experienced that myself.
	Okay yeah, I cannot say i'm look, i've not encountered trans pussy.
	Cool yeah, that's not pussy, it's not, it's not the same.
	I mean, you can't say it unless you try this.
	Okay, let's put it this way.
	But so so forget the impalement, hold on, hold on, hold on, forget the impale thing.
	Sure they go to the best trans doctor, the best, the most uh, the best trans surgeon, and they get the, the surgery, and there's no complications whatsoever, aside from the uh, the dilation that they constantly have to keep up with.
	But no, out of the norm uh complications, still not pussy.
	That's not pussy.
	Let me ask you, would you do you feel like it would feel like pussy?
	No, it would not feel like pussy, it wouldn't smell like it wouldn't.
	Is that is supposed to be a gotcha?
	Oh yeah, what?
	No, it's not supposed to be a gotcha, it's just.
	They're just talking.
	Yeah, it would not.
	It would not feel the same, it wouldn't look the same, it wouldn't uh, smell the same.
	It's not pussy, that's not pussy.
	So what makes pussy pussy for, for you or for, like most men, somebody who was born with a vagina with the correct chromosomes?
	Uh oh, go ahead, what I was gonna say?
	But let's say, let's say, they like they um, like you're, you don't know that that they're, that they're not, you know, you don't, and so they essayed me.
	Yeah I I, I don't know what that anyways whatever, go ahead um, and like, how would you be able to tell?
	Like, just like, just genuine, like questions?
	How would I be able to tell yeah like like, would you be able to tell?
	If they didn't tell you, would you be able to tell, well, i've not encountered trans pussy, but i'm pretty confident i'd be able to tell.
	So, in fact, I can make a difference.
	Hold on, i'm pretty confident if I was face to face with a man who's dressed up as a woman.
	I don't need to undress, they don't need to be undressed.
	I can tell before it even gets to anything sexual.
	But what if there's a hypothetical where you just you didn't unfortunately and you're in the middle of the day?
	Okay, so they tricked me.
	They tricked me into having sex.
	Well, yeah, that's his hypothetical.
	And so I'm what's the situation?
	Oh, like you're about to do the deed and the pussy's in front of you.
	Like, I'm genuinely curious.
	You want me to articulate the visual differences, the smell.
	Yeah, I'm just wondering.
	Yeah, I'm just wondering if you could teach me on the difference.
	Yeah, so I think actually both men and women can actually make determinations on this.
	So I'm a man, I have tools of my own.
	And then I've been with a woman.
	Surprise.
	Surprise.
	Been with a woman sexually.
	I know what vagina is.
	I know what my own tools look like, feel like whatever.
	If you were to invert that, it would not feel the same.
	It wouldn't.
	Visually, it wouldn't look the same.
	Physically, the lubrication would be different.
	They're deaf.
	I don't know what the fucking smell is like.
	Trust me, pussy does have a distinct smell.
	Unless you're Asian.
	Okay.
	But at the end of the day, it is an assumption because you've never encountered penicillins.
	Because they don't have.
	Well, I mean, some Asian people don't have the body odor, anyways, whatever.
	Never mind.
	Yeah, they don't really sell deodorant in Asia either.
	I mean, some people have body, some Asians have body odor, but many of them, it's like a genetic thing.
	Don't have body odors.
	Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and ask my question.
	So you're saying that you're not able to answer because you can't feel from a men's perspective.
	So I'm going to put it to you like this.
	You're saying that you can't really know how a fake vagina looks like because, and again, you can't feel it.
	So let's say that the fake penises look like a sausage wiener that you put on a hot dog.
	I've never seen one and I don't want to see one.
	Let's say it looks like that and it's the closest that they can make it look to it.
	Does that still make it a woman?
	Oh!
	I don't know why it did.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Hopefully the champagne is tasty.
	Enjoy some more.
	Also, can we get some phosphorylina?
	What is kvas?
	Kvasi.
	It's a really good drink.
	I drank it my whole childhood.
	It tastes like beer, but it's no alcohol.
	It's really good.
	Ws and chef roguel, who wants more champagne?
	Yeah.
	I'm down with it.
	Anybody while you're pouring that out, isn't there an easy distinction to make?
	You ladies agree that there are women who are lesbians, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, don't you think they would be able to tell the difference?
	Yes.
	I guess so.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Yeah, but I'm not lesbian, so I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but wait a second.
	So they could determine very, very quickly, even if men couldn't, right?
	I guess so, I feel like they're like, I mean also not all vaginas look the same either.
	Yeah, so maybe it's like a different type.
	That's like saying all pizza doesn't look the same.
	All pizza doesn't look the same, but pizza is pizza.
	If you tried to give me a taco, I would know it was different.
	I don't even care about it.
	Even if you put sauce and cheese inside of a taco, like I would know it was different.
	I'll be honest.
	I'm sorry, Stephan.
	You gave me that question, right, about like the sausage wiener, like on a hot dog.
	I like dated guy who's like, you know, thing looks like that.
	So that's why I was like, oh, I don't think that's a girlfriend.
	Oh no, I can't open it.
	You got it.
	Oh, you.
	What?
	You should have brought one of my.
	Bro.
	How do those bottle girls do at the club every night?
	Gotta like jig on the top.
	I know how they do it.
	I'll have to do it.
	Do you know how they do it?
	Well, I just, I took one glass.
	Oh my God.
	You should tell him.
	It twists and pulls at the same time.
	It's drunk.
	No, it's funny.
	Bro.
	Bro, who super glued this shit, bro?
	Yeah.
	That was just some.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to continue this conversation.
	It's a little bit uncomfortable.
	It's uncomfortable.
	I'm not trans.
	I cannot speak on this.
	You're pressing me.
	Are you the president of the United States?
	Am I what?
	The president of the United States.
	Am I the president of the United States?
	I'm not.
	Then can you speak about the president of the United States?
	I honestly don't even speak about him.
	I don't.
	Yeah, but can you?
	Can I?
	Yes, I can.
	Yeah.
	But I choose not to.
	Wait, can people competently talk about the president of the United States, even if they themselves are not the president of the United States?
	Yeah, I mean, people can do what they want.
	Like I said, they have their own experience and they want to talk about things that they want to talk about.
	But I think that is a personal choice.
	I'm like, oh, if I don't really know that experience, I don't think I should facilitate or like pass around false knowledge and news and like make people like, you know, misconstrued, you know?
	I think it's important to have like all the information and then you make an informed judgment or some informed argument.
	And I just don't have that in this case with about this topic.
	Do you want to do this?
	Okay.
	Okay, fuck it.
	So then you should defer to those that do, in this case, us, right?
	I guess I can defer.
	Yeah, I mean, like, I'm not going to take on.
	If you're deferring to those who do have the information, you're willing to concede that transformation.
	Oh, it's not saying that I don't have the information.
	No, no, it's not saying that I don't have the information.
	I just don't never touch a physical, like, I've never touched a trans woman's that part, like a vagina.
	So I cannot say what it feels like and doesn't.
	And I'm pretty sure everyone here hasn't as well.
	So I don't know if anyone here has better knowledge of what that would feel like.
	So in that case, I can't defer on that aspect.
	Because I'm saying that I'll only defer if someone else has actually personally experienced it.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Have you ever been to Antarctica?
	Because Brian.
	I've never been to the page.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	How long would a penis look like?
	Wait, hold on.
	Have you ever been to Antarctica?
	I've never been to Antarctica.
	Would you have like an intuition that it would like how it would feel in terms of the temperature?
	I think it would feel cold.
	Okay, how do you know that?
	You've never been to Antarctica.
	I think that people that had been told me it was cold.
	That's the only reason?
	Yeah, maybe.
	Or like, no, it's a non-social reason.
	Or is it common sense?
	Common knowledge.
	That was it doesn't mean the same.
	Really quick.
	We need to do cheers to Ogle.
	Ogle.
	Cheers to Ogle.
	Sala novia.
	Salu.
	Sala novia.
	Salabia.
	Cheers.
	Wait, okay, really quick.
	What pronouns does a baby have before they can speak?
	I don't know.
	What did the parents say?
	Or the child?
	Well, before you can even conceptualize the ideas of gender, gender, identity, and sex, what pronouns are the baby given?
	I think they're probably given, because they cannot speak yet, they're probably given the pronouns that they were assigned to at birth.
	I mean, assigned to based on their sex at birth.
	I think for a while, though, don't quote me on this, but I think there was a birth certificate where you could circle like there was like another unassigned.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	But it's just, this is more so related to pronoun usage.
	So it's because with babies, we don't use, we don't refer to their gender.
	Refer to sex and we use he him she her, but that's related to sex.
	So, I think, kind of with pronoun usage, even and no yeah, that's why.
	That's why I said I was like oh, before they can speak and you know when the baby is born, I think everyone assumes that their pronouns are going to be what sex they were at birth.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Anyways, I got moving on just for the sake of time.
	But um, are men physically stronger than women?
	I don't actually know if anybody, anybody disagree with that.
	I don't think so.
	Okay uh, can women be sexist towards men to which?
	Uh, Ivy you disagree?
	Yeah, why is that?
	I can women?
	Yeah, I think that.
	So like, I think because I went to like a Social Justice Warrior College, I was like, you know, like we learn about, like the study of um, like gender studies and like um, like not.
	Yeah, I mostly did a lot of gender study CLUB courses as like part of my ges and then I learned a lot from it and one of the things is like, unless you're in this, like a I don't call me, it's been a while since I took those classes but like, unless you're in a position of like power or you have a hegemonic status or like you have some influence to like inflict, like to influence another social group or another group you know below you or something, then you can't really like be iss towards them.
	You know whether it's like race is or sexist.
	So in our society we could say, like the cisgender male would be someone that has a higher social, that's not in in society, like they have more power and so, as a result, then they would be able to be racist and sexist, whereas I think that a female, even if they were to say sexist things, like oh, I don't know, for example what, like I can't even think on off the top of my head but they were to say something sexist, then all men are bigs.
	Oh, all men are pigs.
	Okay, is that sexist?
	What that's a sexist thing?
	All men are pigs.
	Do you think it's sexist?
	Is it sexist?
	All men are pigs?
	How about if all women are pigs?
	I don't know, because i've heard guys say like, oh, don't trust men.
	Like all men are animals, all men are pigs, like.
	I've heard men say that.
	So is this sexist?
	Are all women gold diggers?
	Is that sexist?
	I've heard.
	Oh, I actually not.
	I've heard that.
	Is it sexist?
	No, I don't think that's sexist.
	I think being sexist is saying that like, because you are a female, you have only, you're only capable to do this.
	I think that is sexist, you know.
	And then you're saying that because of your gender, then we're not gonna give you this raise right, then.
	I think that's sexist.
	It's when your sex or your um identity as a woman or as a man, or no identity as a woman, is gonna influence the way people treat you in a life in a negative way.
	What's your definition of sexism?
	I think sexism is like um I, I don't know the the, I don't want to say like something that okay.
	What I think it is, um is like basically, someone that has a posit, is in a position of power, is um basically prejudiced towards somebody based on a specific like, based on their gender.
	Yeah, showing prejudice based on their gender.
	That is sexism in my, in my definition.
	So if a woman, um A female nurse, has prejudice towards men, and she has access to certain medications in the hospital, and this is actually something that happens.
	And then she either overdoses these men on the medications they are taking or gives them medication that they're not taking but would kill them for whatever reason.
	And she's specifically targeting them because they're men.
	She's not doing it to women.
	She has some sort of like gripe specifically against men.
	Would this be sexism?
	I think that because she is in a position of power, right, in that specific circumstance, I do believe so.
	But I think what if she's treating a really rich person?
	Oh, I don't think we're talking about wealth at all, right?
	It was just mainly about, you know, yeah, male.
	Okay, what about a woman who, let's say, a woman kills a bunch of men, but there's not some sort of nurse-patient dynamic, there's nothing like that.
	She just goes out into the street and just shoots three men because she hates men.
	Oh, so she's just like a serial killer or something, like a male serial killer.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Is that sexist?
	Is she being?
	I mean, in my definition, it's like, oh, sorry.
	In my head, it's like, did she do anything in her life to like basically make these men's life worser?
	Like, she just ended it, right?
	Yeah, she just ended it.
	All right.
	Worse, worse.
	Wait, so does that make their life worse?
	I don't know.
	It just ended.
	Like, what is their big deal?
	I don't know.
	What do they think?
	I don't know who they are.
	They don't care anything.
	Exactly.
	So did it make their life worse?
	Some people believe that living is to suffer.
	So maybe she ended their suffering.
	It's the shame.
	How about this?
	Let me ask you this a different way, maybe.
	My face is red.
	If I say the following phrase, is this sexist?
	All women are good for is childbearing.
	Is that sexist?
	Yeah, I believe so.
	Yes.
	Okay, is the following phrase sexist?
	All men are good for is working.
	I don't think so.
	What?
	Right.
	Okay.
	So now, why is phrase one sexist, but phrase two is not sexist, even though they meet the same criteria?
	Okay, so hang on, hang on.
	If I can.
	Hey, wait a second.
	Both target a specific group.
	After they've targeted the entirety of that specific group, they give specific qualifiers to that group, expressing that they're only good for X thing and not other things, which meets your definition of prejudice.
	So why is the first one sexist, but the second one is not?
	I think for me, like prejudice is like, yes, it's like some sort of preconceived notion, but what I think is like the next step to make it like sexist is for that saying to actually impact their life.
	So like if a woman is thought to be only good at childbearing, then any job she applies for, she will not get it because then the labor will be like, the employer will be like, just go have a kid, like don't work, you know?
	But if a man is all he wants to do is to work, sorry, if what if society is saying that all a man can do is to work and the man wants to be like, I don't know, what else could they, if they want to be like a singer, like they can still do that, right?
	It's like they can work and, oh, yeah, so if the man wants to like, I don't know, like relax, I don't even know, like being a worker, everyone works.
	Perhaps do other things like, I don't know, be looked at as a sage or giving good advice or things like this, which are not in the category of work, there would become a social stigma against men in those positions, right?
	I feel like is giving advice.
	And if there's a social stigma in those positions by you making the statement affirmatively that men are only good at working, that would definitionally be sexist, right?
	I believe that the saying of that all men are good at working, I don't think it's sexist just because I don't think it's an only good for work.
	They're only good for work.
	If saying that, I don't think that will negatively impact their life.
	I don't think it will change their quality of life that way.
	So if a woman or a collective of women think that my only use in life is to work, that would not negatively impact my life.
	And like, can you give me an example of how it would negatively impact your life?
	Your gay.
	So any example that you would give for how the following phrase, all women are good for is bearing children, however that would negatively affect women is the exact same way the other statement would negatively affect men.
	It wouldn't be whatever it is.
	I just think it wouldn't be the same because if you use the first saying where like women are only good for childbearing and then they try to apply for a job, then the employer is like, no, you can't.
	Then the woman's like, screwed.
	Like they have no money.
	They can't feed themselves.
	They don't have a home.
	And if you only say that about men, then they could be disqualified from other things like sagely advice, being looked at as beacons of honor.
	And I don't think that's bad.
	I don't think that's as bad.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Let me finish.
	Beacons of honor instead of workhorses.
	There's all sorts of negative impacts which could happen to them because they're only viewed as being work mules.
	How is that not the same thing?
	It's a negative impact, right?
	A social negative impact from the perspective of men, just like that's a social negative impact from the perspective of women.
	So I could make the counter argument to you and say, nu-uh, it's actually good that employers are discriminating against them because then they don't have to work.
	Ha, based, right?
	But that wouldn't make it, you would, you would say, no, you would dispute that because you'd say, well, women don't want that.
	Well, men don't want to be viewed as only being workhorses.
	So how is it that that's not sexist to men?
	Because I think about the base.
	I'll let you respond to that.
	Michael Jones makes $200.
	Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender.
	The whole idea that sexism is prejudice plus power is only held by people with room temperature IQ.
	Chair four is Delulu.
	High chair rate.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	Sorry for the delay on that.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so I want to respond to that.
	I'm going to biases in the court for you being a good father, things like that, because you're only viewed, of course, as being good for work.
	Okay, I can see that, like that impacting in like the court of law.
	Like usually maybe children are given to the mom because they think the mom is good.
	You're only good for work.
	I can see that.
	Yeah, but I would say like the fact that I think that as humans, wouldn't that be sexist?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I think about like your experience in life, right?
	As humans, we basically just need like, like I said, money, food, shelter.
	So if a woman cannot get a job based on this stereotype or this prejudice, then that actually affects her ability to access those necessities.
	If men can't get access to their kids because they're only viewed as being workhorses and not as being paternal, then that would negatively affect men.
	And that is what is currently happening, yeah?
	Yes.
	And I believe that.
	And then how's that not sexist?
	And I'm not saying that's like a bad experience.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	I guess I can concede to that.
	Yeah, it is sexist.
	Yeah, because it's like.
	He did it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Wow, that's a first one.
	I think that's a good idea.
	By the way, by the way, that argument that came in from the chat.
	That wasn't mine.
	I was going a different direction.
	Somebody else threw it out there.
	Credit work credits do.
	Tell me if this meets your definition, though, of sexism.
	Let's say you have a really powerful woman.
	Let's say Kamala Harris.
	Did you vote for Kamala?
	I didn't vote at all.
	Okay.
	Let's say she became the United States president.
	She would be, you know, very powerful.
	She is in the White House and she wants to hire a janitor.
	And she turns down all the male janitors because she refuses to hire a male janitor.
	She refuses to hire a male janitor because they're men.
	Would that be sexist?
	I think so because she's in a position of power.
	Okay, I guess that's consistent though.
	Let's see here.
	And then going to the next one, can people be racist towards white people?
	Brenda, which are you a yes or a no on this one?
	Honestly, I don't know enough about Ivy.
	You say no.
	It's the same.
	You say no.
	He's like, I'm done.
	No, no, no.
	I still agree.
	I think that one I agree more with than the sexism one.
	So like, I think that race and like sex is so intertwined.
	It's like that's what we call intersectionality.
	So it's really hard to talk about it separately, you know?
	Like someone's like race and gender and their intersection of that really creates their experience in life.
	And so it's really, it's like in the questionnaire, we like separate that.
	And so, but I think that's race is obviously more like prominent than sex.
	So I think above that, I am more like more adamant about my stance.
	There you go.
	So can people be racist against white people?
	We define the type of person, like what people a black person, can a black person be racist towards a white person?
	I think that in, I think it's very tough.
	I mean, I said no, yeah, on the questionnaire.
	I think like as a society, like we cannot, but as like an individual, I think that this person can.
	Can Asian people be racist towards white people?
	I think that Asian people, like we can say things, like we'll say stuff, right?
	Like oh kuoti kua yan, like, right?
	Like we can say that that.
	So even the word for white person in Chinese or for incantes is very like mean.
	It's like they don't even have a word for a white person.
	It's just like that monster.
	You know?
	Wait, really?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So wouldn't that be really?
	Wait, there's not a like what about the color white?
	They don't use it.
	They say kwai.
	Yeah.
	So it's like they just say the word kwai.
	And I think that probably maybe when they first visited China, when the Asian people saw them, they're like, oh, that looks like a ghost, you know?
	So monster, I don't mean monster, I mean ghost.
	Sorry, I said it wrong.
	It's not monster, it's ghost.
	Kwai means ghost.
	Yeah, but what about just in like the United States?
	Can Asian people be racist towards white people?
	I think that Asian people, like they can say racist things.
	They can say racist things, but they cannot be racist.
	Can they be racist towards black people?
	I think that, yes, they can.
	Why?
	Because we've seen Asian people with power and they've like, you know, killed black people.
	Yeah.
	Like the LA riots.
	Weren't you in San Francisco?
	Yeah.
	Wait, the LA?
	You mean the roof Koreans?
	No, the LA riots.
	They were defending their business.
	In Koreatown, they were completely justified.
	That was not from a.
	They were in a position of self-defense, not authority.
	They were being attacked.
	Their businesses were being burned to the ground.
	They were defending their business.
	Being shot at and they defended themselves.
	That wasn't a position of the city.
	No, no, I'm talking about the incident that sparked that.
	I'm not talking about them defending their business.
	Oh, she's talking about the police brutality.
	Yeah, she's talking about Rodney King.
	No, no, so I'm not sure if you know, like, what happened?
	It was like Latasha Harlan's.
	Like, she was the girl that got murdered by the store owner.
	Because she went in and she, the store owner was, like, thought that she was going to do something dangerous, but she just stole a bag of chips.
	It was that smart.
	Oh, no, that's pretty dangerous.
	So she was robbing the place and got shot.
	She stole a bag of chips or something.
	So she was robbing the place and got shot.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's what happens when you rob places.
	You get shot.
	Oh, gosh.
	But like, tell me why I was in Oakland.
	My phone got robbed.
	Why did no one shoot that guy?
	You know, I don't know why Californians absolutely demand that they have no right to defend themselves when they're getting robbed.
	But in the rest of the day, I got mugged by a person in the convenience store.
	What race were they?
	They were wearing a ski mask.
	I can't tell.
	Really?
	I really don't know.
	They're wearing a ski mask.
	Like, I was on the phone with my friend, and then all of a sudden.
	Oh, no, ski mask you can see a little bit.
	No, I don't.
	And by the way, by the way, hang on.
	She was shot by a woman.
	Yeah, she was shot by a woman.
	Yes.
	Yeah, so she was robbing a place where there was a woman who felt a justified.
	And again, we're not talking about gender right now.
	We're talking about race.
	That's why I said that I feel more strongly about race than I do about gender.
	They are so interconnected.
	But wait a second.
	She got robbed.
	She's in the story, though.
	Doesn't know the at 10 a.m. in the morning.
	Yeah.
	She's robbing the place.
	She's robbing it.
	This woman feels like she needs to defend herself.
	Why does she need to defend herself?
	She's just robbing the place.
	Like, she's not robbing her.
	She's just robbed.
	So I could rob your house.
	You don't feel like you need to defend yourself?
	It's like it's material items.
	You're not defending yourself.
	Like, they're just robbing you.
	It's like you just give it up.
	Like, take my stuff, but you know, give me my life.
	It's like they're not physically harming you.
	They're just taking your things.
	And I think that maybe because I'm Buddhist, but I think that in this world, we just have to do it.
	How about fuck that commie bullshit?
	This is the United States America.
	Here, if you try to rob our ship, we blow you away.
	That's how it works.
	Like, what country do you think you moved to, lady?
	I didn't move anywhere.
	I was born here.
	This is America.
	Do you have like a religion?
	I desire you right now.
	Like, for one thing, when it comes to force doctrine, if a person's willing to rob you, there's no reason to assume that they will not do other horrible things to you.
	When a person's in the commission of a crime, they can easily escalate that commission of a crime.
	Like, why would I wait for you to pull your gun out if you're already in the commission of crime against me?
	I think that was like the debate.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think that was like the debate.
	Like, some people were like, oh, what if like Latasha was going to pull a gun on her?
	And then, like, actually, look at security cameras.
	Like, there was no instance of her doing anything.
	She just stole a bag of chips.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	You know how all of that could have been avoided?
	Tell me how all of that could have been avoided.
	If one person did one thing differently, what would have happened?
	If one person hadn't been, oh, I don't know, fucking robbing somebody, the whole situation would have been avoided, right?
	I think it was like, it's like there's also an understanding, right?
	Like, what human life is worth a bag of chips?
	You know, it's like a moral ethic question, I think, in that case.
	It's like you're saying that you were willing to kill someone because they took a bag of chips from you.
	That's really expensive.
	Okay, well, let's take it to the other extreme.
	How much of everything that I have can a person steal before I'm justified in protecting myself and my valuables?
	Can they steal my entire life savings and my house where my children sleep?
	Can they steal the car that I, that my cheeks, can they steal all of this so that we're left penniless and out in the snow?
	Am I allowed to defend my property then?
	I really hope that if you were getting robbed that much, that you have renter's insurance and that you will be able to come back.
	Yeah, I don't have renter's insurance.
	I think that you were just not that bright.
	Like, you need rental insurance.
	If somebody...
	That didn't really answer the question.
	If somebody stepped...
	If they were stealing my house, if they were literally...
	They came in, they stole everything in my house, right?
	And burned the damn house down, and then stole my car, right?
	And drained my bank account.
	Am I justified then?
	I mean, now it's going off topic because we're talking about race.
	And now this is about like.
	Can you answer my question, please?
	I'm saying that if a person did all of that, are you justified in killing them?
	Like, in the act of him doing all of that, you want to shoot them.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I think that's totally fine.
	Then why is it not fine for a bag of chips?
	All you're doing is that you're not going to be able to do it.
	Oh, my God.
	It's so different.
	You're like scaling it.
	So all you're doing is saying a person's life isn't worth 50 cents.
	It's worth $100,000 or $200,000.
	You're actually assigning the value of the life to money.
	I'm assigning the value of life to bodily harm.
	That's why your position doesn't make any sense, and my position does.
	I never said, you never said anything about bodily harm because I just said that she didn't show any way of getting underscore women.
	There's two acts of comments.
	She was a teacher.
	Hitting women.
	Young boys go to school to learn math, hear this trash, and learn to hate themselves.
	Her brain twisted up in knots.
	She could be trained to believe upheads down or anything else.
	Hitting women.
	Hitting women.
	That's terrible.
	Why is that your name, bro?
	That's only Andrew's position.
	Just kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Yeah, that just, like, that actually makes no sense.
	Pull-out guy donated $200.
	Big pull-out.
	Chair one has the look to attract a man, but the neutral position on every topic makes her personality terrible.
	You keep a guy.
	That's the point.
	I'm not trying to keep any guy.
	Oh, thank you, big pullout.
	I can't believe I just said that out loud.
	Going back to the racism thing, I have a question.
	I mean, I think I wanted to answer any questions.
	Sorry, I think he mentioned something about bodily harm, and then I want to say that that was something that we had not established.
	Because in the case of what happened at that, at the LA or the Latasha Harlan's case, was that she didn't show any signs of going to inflict bodily harm or any harm was going to be done on the owner.
	But the owner had just, you know, done a really rash decision and decided to kill her on the spot.
	I agree, but that makes your position more inconsistent.
	That makes my position worse.
	Yeah, it makes your position worse even.
	Because your position is you're not allowed to kill somebody over 50 cents, but you can't over a couple hundred thousand dollars.
	No, no, no.
	My position is that you should not kill someone over things.
	Then how come if they're taking the hypothetical I gave you, all they're doing is taking my things and it was okay to kill them in that house.
	No, you said they were burning down your house.
	What if you were?
	That's just thing.
	No, but then that is.
	So for example, like people die in fires.
	Like your life is at stake.
	I'm out of the house.
	I'm out of the house.
	I explained that.
	I'm not in the house.
	Oh, outside.
	They burn the house down.
	They steal everything in my bank account.
	They take off with my car.
	They leave us in the snow.
	Oh, I think that you don't have the right to kill them.
	Your life is not injured.
	Like, you're not in direct harm.
	Yeah.
	Okay, because I was assuming you're in the house.
	Hang on.
	Do I have the right to call the police to come stop them?
	Of course.
	What the heck?
	And if the police show up and kill them, were they justified?
	I think that the police will face those repercussions, but I don't think the police was justified either.
	Okay, so then all that we've established is that we should let people steal shit.
	Yeah, anything that we do to stop people from stealing shit could lead to their death if you try to stop them from stealing shit.
	Yeah, I don't think it's worth it to kill someone over things.
	Okay, last question.
	Bernie Madoff.
	He took off with the life savings of tens of thousands of people who were dependent on it.
	Okay.
	Police officers should not have gone and arrested him because it could have led to a standoff in which he died, correct?
	Wait, I'm very confused.
	So you're saying that the police should not arrest him because the police could kill him or the, wait, the police, I mean, I think that.
	It's just stuff.
	I mean, if the cops come to arrest you, that escalates the situation.
	It could lead to your death.
	It could, but it didn't.
	I don't know.
	Like, it's just like it couldn't.
	It could.
	Yeah.
	But it could.
	It could.
	And the police and whoever.
	And whoever kills him is going to face repercussions for doing that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because you had people shoot up schools and they don't like get killed.
	Like, what the heck?
	No.
	They do all the time.
	They don't.
	No, I still like.
	Unless they surrender, unless they can unconditionally surrender, drop their weapons, and then get and go peaceably.
	But if they shoot at the police, guess what the police do?
	Oh, yeah, they shoot at the police, yes.
	But I'm saying that, like, I don't know, I just think about like all these school shooting cases I've seen and heard and also experience.
	Like the shooter that comes onto the campus, I don't see them get shot.
	They do all the time.
	What?
	It happens all the time.
	No, school shootings happen, but I don't think about, I don't, I've never heard about school shooters getting shot.
	Well, why?
	What are you talking about?
	Because I can give you so much of a list of these various shooters who've been shot in the commission of these crimes.
	Also, a lot of them just self-delete before that can even happen.
	If they don't self-delete, there's a very high probability they would have been killed by police.
	But the thing is, is that the police show quite a lot of restraint in some of these situations because what they do, these school shooters who are total cowards and disgusting and pathetic, they put down their guns and surrender.
	And that's kind of if you're not an immediate threat, your hands are up, you've surrendered your firearm.
	I mean, there's still a chance they could get shot, but the police are going to take you into custody and then you're going to face justice in the court system.
	You had a question, then I got to move it on.
	So just going back to the racism thing really fast, if I'm applying for a job, any job, let's call it, I'm going in to be an attorney for a certain law firm and there's two candidates.
	I'm one of them and the other woman is black.
	The woman doing the hiring is also black.
	The other candidate applying for the job is less qualified than me, came from a worse grad school, worse else that scores, everything.
	Everything is worse.
	They scored worse on the bar exam and the black woman hires the black candidate over me.
	Is that racist?
	I don't think it's racist because there are people with more highly better stats than, like, for example, like, I don't know, I think that stats are really irrelevant at the end of the day.
	It's about your experience and the impact that you leave on the interviewer.
	So I don't know about the impact that you left on her.
	And so.
	One last question on this.
	What do you think about, like, do you think it would be racist, for example, if in order for Harvard or another Ivy League school to allow more black minorities into university, they actually reduce the amount of Asian candidates that they accept into Harvard?
	Do you think that that would be a racist policy?
	I actually had a debate with my friend about this.
	I end up crying, but I don't think it's racist.
	Yeah, I was on, he was on the other side.
	It wouldn't be racist towards Asian people?
	I know.
	So Asian people, if they score really high in the SATs and they otherwise, you know, would have gotten in, but the university is.
	It's like we're capped.
	Capped, right?
	Is refusing to let them in, even though you know, via merit, they're more deserving of it, they're more intelligent, whatever it is, and they're letting in people who have scored worse in certain uh tests like the SATs.
	You don't think that this would be evidence of uh racism towards Asian people?
	I think that schools, and similar with companies, everyone wants diversity, and so it's not up to us on what their criteria for diversity is.
	Well, if it's publicly like a lot of these universities receive public funds, so I mean, you would be discriminating on the basis of race in this situation, which is not allowed by the United States government.
	So, I think in my experience, I also was like a college financial coach as well.
	But I do think that certain schools will reject students that seem too perfect because they want to make sure that their acceptance rate is like very competitive.
	So, if a student has like these amazing stats, they might think that, oh, if we even accept this kid, there's no way this kid's going to accept our acceptance letter anyway.
	So, they might reject them out of that.
	So, that's actually like a reason.
	Would you be okay if you were applying for a job and you were clearly more qualified, but the job was given to somebody else who was clearly less qualified than you?
	And the sole reason they were given the job was because they were like a different minority?
	You'd be fine with that?
	I think I definitely would be fine with it just because, like, yeah, that maybe they have a similar life experience, or like they had that candidate had something more aligned with what that employer was looking for.
	Like, even though, because I know friends that like get these senior roles and they have no experience, that much experience, but like they have like this one thing that they did, like 20 different things that they've done.
	And because of that one experience, and now they're able to lead teams where people are like, you know, double their age.
	Yeah, I just want to ask one final question.
	So, you're in favor of racism against Asian people?
	Am I in favor of racism against Asian people?
	No, I'm not.
	I have a question.
	It seems like you are.
	I have a question.
	Oh, um, so I'm Asian, but I have a white last name.
	Where would I fall?
	Um, I think that you're you look Asian, but if you're looking at my resume, where would I fall?
	Uh, I think that I don't if you wait, what do you tick on the box, though?
	Yeah, I tick Asian, but if you're just looking at Bailey Slaughter, what would like what would you say?
	I'll say recruiter.
	I mean, if you tick Asian, then you're Asian.
	Yeah, but yeah, Blackbird donated 200.
	Thank you, Blackbird.
	I think one more time.
	I swear.
	Also, chair one.
	Top my exclamation mark, dot, dot, dot, lol.
	Sup back.
	Oh, he's he said sup ma.
	What's that mean?
	Do you want to say something back to Blackbird?
	Look into this camera, give him a wink.
	I am a virgin.
	What?
	Okay.
	Oh, I didn't mean to trigger it twice.
	Really quick, Bailey, go ahead.
	Quick questions.
	I got to move it on.
	You have something for?
	Oh, okay, go ahead.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	My last question for you is: can you just give us one example of something that you would consider racist?
	Can I get one example of something that would be racism to you?
	I think it's because, based on my race, then even though it's like a oh, so what happened to me as a teacher, the reason why I no longer teach is because something happened to me and I felt like it was really racist, actually.
	And we're both minorities in this case, but a situation happened where both of our family members had passed away two weeks apart, actually.
	And then she was able to get one month off, and I only got, and I actually got in trouble for even asking for a day off.
	And so I felt like that experience in itself was racist.
	And the principal had sent out a newsletter saying, like, oh, this teacher's family member had passed.
	So we need to like give her our condolences, like, say, like, you know, help her out, whatever.
	But then in my experience, like they're like, oh, sorry, you don't have enough people.
	Yeah, yeah, just because I'm actually curious.
	What was the fucking?
	The race part.
	Yeah, where was the race part?
	I'm Asian.
	No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Who died?
	For you?
	Uncle.
	Uncle.
	Who died for them?
	I have no idea.
	They wouldn't disclose that.
	So maybe it was like their husband or their uncle?
	They weren't married.
	They were, so she was.
	Okay, a father?
	A mom?
	They wouldn't disclose it, so I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Well, then you can't make any determination here because, like, I'm not trying to be insensitive towards your uncle, but like a cousin three times removed, I think is like less of a grievance than like your mom, your father.
	No, but I was just asking to go to the funeral.
	So I asked to go to the funeral.
	Can I get a day off to go to the funeral?
	I'm not asking for like a week off of like a FP MPRA.
	I'm not asking for that, which is what she had asked for.
	So there was unfair treatment.
	I think it was unfair treatment.
	So you didn't get to go to the funeral.
	No, I went and when I came back, the repercussions were I got fired.
	Yeah.
	But okay, what does it have to do?
	What does that have to do with race?
	What did they say the termination was for?
	The what?
	Sorry?
	What did they actually say you were terminated for?
	They said it was for a month prior.
	A kid has shown a TikTok video to the class and I didn't stop him.
	And the TikTok video was Lionel Messi kicking a soccer ball.
	So they put inappropriate use of social media in the classroom because they couldn't fire me for that.
	What you're doing is just making this up, right?
	I'm not making this up because it was my favorite.
	So you were fired for a legitimate reason and then you're saying, no, I just think that they were trying to get revenge against me because I went to a funeral.
	Oh.
	But like, what actually demonstrates that other than you just?
	Because I didn't have any problems with admin or anything like legality wise until I'd asked to go to that funeral.
	And then when I came back from that funeral, so it was on a Friday.
	And so I stayed in LA Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and I flew back to SF.
	And then when I flew back and the first day of school, like they were like, oh, Miss Ivy, we're going to take you to the office.
	And then they said, like, you're not allowed to talk to anyone.
	We're putting you on administrative leave.
	So that's what happened.
	And then when I come back from administration.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Yeah.
	A couple questions here.
	So did you ask to get the time off and they told you no and you went anyways?
	Yes.
	I said I was sick.
	I called in sick.
	Okay.
	So I used my sick days.
	Yeah.
	What, and so why do you come to the conclusion that it has anything to do with race?
	Oh, so what happened was I thought the treatment was unfair.
	Okay.
	Yeah, sure.
	I'm going to go, I'll go ahead and grant it was unfair.
	How did you come to the conclusion it has anything to do with race?
	Okay, this is my experience.
	So I don't want to generalize that this is like, I just think that what happened to me, I felt like it was racist because the principal, okay, the principal was Afro-Latina and then the co-worker was Afro-Latina.
	That's it.
	And I was Asian.
	I have a question.
	What's your stance on affirmative action?
	Wait, where's the racism part?
	Wait.
	I think she's like saying there was favoritism to this other race and she got less favorable treatment, but it's still that that wouldn't indicate that there's actually any racism.
	I mean, I just think that because of, so like, what if they just liked the other person more had nothing to do with race?
	That could be it.
	But I talked around to other teachers and another Asian teacher, a grade below me, she taught fourth grade.
	She taught math and she was also Asian.
	And then she had another teacher that was teaching English and he was black.
	And then what I heard from her experience was like, oh yeah, Miss Ivy, like I heard about what happened with your family.
	I'm so sorry.
	But I will be honest, like the just, you know, this happened to me where I showed up to school with 108-degree fever and I wasn't allowed to go home.
	Meanwhile, my co-teacher got a week off.
	Sorry, I don't know what the fever was, but she had a bad fever and she asked to go home and she wasn't allowed to.
	But meanwhile, the co-teacher was able to take a week off to go to Japan for vacation.
	So that's why.
	Just because this demonstrates a racial element.
	Okay, sorry.
	He was able to do that.
	But just because, like, let me ask you a question.
	Bad thing happens to black person.
	Did that bad thing happen because the person was black?
	No.
	Okay.
	Because I don't know what that is.
	But just because something bad happens to you and you happen to be whether you're white, black, Asian, Latino, it doesn't matter.
	You can't immediately jump to it happened because I'm of my race.
	It happened because of racism.
	I would say that yesterday.
	I will agree.
	Yeah, yeah, I will agree.
	What was the TikTok video?
	She said it was messy.
	Lionel messy.
	Yeah, it's kicking soccer.
	Also, the kid did like an edit and it was a month prior.
	And during that time, actually, an admin was in my class to watch because I had like a, they were doing a walkthrough.
	And so they saw that, you know, I was showing that.
	And then, so they didn't say anything to me after that.
	Like, they didn't say that was wrong, nothing.
	And so it's so funny that a month later, they had said, like, oh, that was the reason.
	That's the reason why you're getting fired now.
	Even though I didn't get it.
	So an administrator was coming through your class and inspecting it.
	Yeah.
	Saw that something was inappropriate, which was happening, launched an investigation.
	After the investigation was done, right, when you came back from this trip, they coincidentally fired you for a legitimate reason.
	No, I think you're getting the timeline wrong.
	I think you're getting the timeline wrong.
	I'm saying that the month ago this had happened, and then a month later, right, between this, between the video being shown and between me getting fired, was a month apart.
	They launched an investigation two days before they had fired me.
	I mean, sorry, two days before they fired me.
	So then, like, it was like not related at all, right?
	But then they need a reason.
	All right.
	That's cool.
	That's cool.
	I have to move on to the next thing.
	So, are men the primary victims of war?
	To which I think it's only you.
	Or actually, Callie, you say no.
	And then Ivy, you say no.
	Why is that?
	Well, what was the question?
	I'm so sorry.
	It's okay.
	Ivy was listening.
	Go ahead.
	I think she might have a good answer.
	I feel like I left a lot.
	No, she didn't hear it.
	Okay, so I think that in war, I think women and children are the primary victims of war.
	Question: Let's remove children from it.
	Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	That's tough.
	Because I guess there'll be more casualties with men, so men in that case.
	Let's think about women and children combined.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, let's just split it up.
	Why do women immediately get the social status of children?
	I mean, just because we think about people that were able to fight in wars back then, and then the ones that carried weapons and were able to fight were men because they were sexist.
	They're saying because you're waiting, you think that's bad?
	I mean, no, I didn't say it's bad.
	No, no, sorry.
	So I'm using sexism as in a term where it doesn't include power now.
	So I'm using the other side.
	But wouldn't the sexist sexism benefit women?
	Sexist feminism?
	No, you said it's sexist that women couldn't fight.
	I mean, it's like back then, maybe there were some women that wanted to fight and they couldn't and they couldn't.
	Don't you think that's privilege?
	Isn't that privilege?
	I guess.
	Is it privileged that women can't fight in wars?
	Yeah, they're not.
	To protect you, to protect you.
	I wouldn't want to go to the military.
	But so I'm just confused here.
	You said between men, so if it's just men and women, you think it's men that are the primary victims of war.
	But if you include children, then it's women and children.
	Women and children, yeah.
	Because like, I think that, like, oh, sorry.
	Yeah, so why?
	So I think that, you know, during wars, like, a lot happened.
	Like, I don't know, you, I, because I watched the human rights film and like, you know, the rape of like Nanking and stuff like that.
	Like, you learn a lot about like comfort women being used in like all these Asian countries, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, you know.
	And you just think, like, oh, wow, like, women and children are being used.
	Like, it was like, you know, underage children.
	So I think that men being used.
	Men were like fighting each other.
	Yes.
	Also, the infirm and elderly and the ones who couldn't fight were used experimentally, just like women were in those particular instances that you're talking about, like Nan King.
	But let me ask you this question.
	Let me ask it in reverse.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men and children or women?
	I think I already said men, so men and children, then, right?
	Yeah, men and children.
	I just didn't understand why children instantly get lumped in with women.
	I know, right?
	I think that always happens.
	like when you're evacuating it's like women and children first so i like i think that so female that was That's that whole chivalry thing.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like a carryover.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, yeah, so I mean, definitely bad things absolutely do happen to women in war that are kind of more specifically gendered when it comes to their victimization.
	But even going ahead and granting that, and yes, of course, absolutely terrible.
	How can you, and also one, typically the war front is pretty far away.
	Women have time to escape that.
	Sometimes like invading armies, if they're moving really quickly, they can go through areas of civilization where there are still population, there's still like civilian population.
	But I mean, you see this, especially like World War II when the Russians were going through Germany.
	But so?
	But so.
	So?
	So what?
	Well, I mean, where do you like?
	Would you, if you could put 100 men to death to prevent one woman from being SA'd, would you do it?
	Who am I?
	My girl or guy?
	I'm confused.
	Oh, am I like the person in power that's like doing this?
	If you had to put a hundred men to death to prevent one woman from getting SA'd, would you do it?
	I think that, you know, what is that called?
	I forgot what it was called, but there's a word for it.
	But it's like you want to have the greatest amount of good for like the greatest amount of people.
	And I think in that case, it's like 100 men versus one woman.
	Yeah, so what's your answer?
	So the 100 men, I would not kill them.
	Brenda, it seemed like you actually had the position on this.
	Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	Would you kill the 100 men?
	I was just fidgeting.
	I'm sorry.
	But would you kill the 100 men to save one woman from SA?
	Would I kill 100 men to save one woman?
	I wouldn't kill anyone.
	If you had to choose.
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	I can't kill.
	I wouldn't kill anyone.
	You have to choose, though.
	Who says a woman is getting killed?
	She just said, he just said SA.
	Who's saying the woman's getting killed?
	No, no, no.
	He's.
	Don't confuse it more.
	Which one did you pick?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Just push a button.
	Just push a button, 100 men die, or a woman gets SA'd.
	It's hard for me to push the button because one person eventually gets hurt.
	And one person, eventually, 100 people versus one person.
	Well, they either or people end up getting hurt.
	Because I've been SA before, so it's hard for me to make that decision to have that happen.
	I know it's a hypothetical.
	It's just this is like digital footprint, you know what I mean?
	So it's like I can't make that decision.
	So you would let 100 men die then?
	I never said that.
	I said if you had to pick one.
	I can't pick.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not juicy right now for this.
	How about let me make it simpler?
	Would you send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent one man from walking free who 100% essayed a woman?
	To prison?
	Yeah, but are they going to get the death penalty?
	No, no, but they spend three years.
	When did they do anything?
	They spent three years in prison.
	But did they do anything to put themselves in prison or they're innocent?
	Okay, let me repeat the question.
	I'll repeat the question.
	Would you send 100 innocent men to prison for three years to prevent one man from walking free who 100% provably essayed a woman?
	First off, I'm sorry for getting you frustrated.
	It's okay.
	Sorry.
	Just don't answer the question.
	Well, yeah, I just, I said, yeah.
	I said, yeah, I would send them.
	100 innocent men.
	How about 1,000 Innocent Men?
	I'm not good with these.
	I don't...
	It's hard for me to.
	What's the limit?
	It's hard.
	I don't know.
	It's hard for me to get into the pressure.
	Yes, I know it's hard.
	But answer the question.
	I don't understand what's hard about it.
	You answered it for 100%.
	Well, it's hard because I think about my digital footprint.
	Also, what is your definition of SA?
	What do you mean?
	Oh, I mean, I'm just using that as a filler for grape.
	I know that.
	No, but I'm asking her, like, what is it?
	Like, you were held at knife point by some random guy or like, I mean, I'm just asking her personally.
	The granular details there we can't really discuss because the nature of the program.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't think, I don't think anybody's particularly confused about it.
	I did have one question for you, though, Chair One.
	I do tend to ask this a lot.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I would feel hungry because, yeah, I like to eat.
	But you can't engage with hypotheticals.
	I'm sorry?
	So you can't engage with hypotheticals.
	ones where i could put myself in that position like i i've been a digital footprint like Like, what's the, what is this digital footprint thing?
	What does that mean?
	Oh, well, this is going on the internet.
	And if I truly don't believe in a series, these topics are serious.
	You know what I mean?
	And if I truly can't answer it with the full capability that I should answer these serious topics with, then I'm not going to do that because then you did.
	I mean, you won't say a thousand men, but you did say you'd send a hundred innocent men.
	Because I could comprehend that.
	And I'm just like.
	What's that quote about better to let like a hundred?
	I don't know.
	What is it?
	Anybody know what I'm talking about?
	Better to let 100 guilty.
	Oh, better to let like a hundred guilty men walk free than to jail, like to deliver injustice to one innocent person, something like that.
	But okay.
	But you said it was injustice.
	I thought you said that the guy who, the guy actually did something.
	He did do it.
	Yeah, okay.
	No, so in this scenario, it's almost the inverse.
	So it's better to let 100 guilty men go than to imprison one innocent person.
	And that's actually, I think, the basis for the United States criminal justice system.
	Bailey, what do you think about this one?
	Would you send 100 innocent men to prison to prevent one man from walking free who 100% essayed a woman?
	In my opinion, no.
	I would not.
	I would save the innocent men.
	But that's my opinion.
	Where did Ivy go?
	We were talking about the primary victims of war.
	Interesting.
	And then there's a super chat coming for her in just a sec.
	Well, while we're doing that, by the way, Blackbird, she's gone from the table, so I'm waiting for your message.
	I apologize for the delay.
	Let's do a couple shout-outs here real quick.
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	Thank you for the 10 men.
	Really appreciate it.
	Pulled it from his ammo fund.
	Thank you so much, Joseph.
	Really appreciate it.
	Mitchell sent a dollar.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, let's see here.
	We have, do we have anything?
	There's a few more, but I'll wait until Ivy's back.
	So we have, let's see, why don't we finish up the pre-show notes?
	We did everything for Brenda, everything for Callie.
	Oh, Patrice, we need to still do yours.
	Let's see.
	Worst breakup of your lives.
	Worst break.
	You were a fine dining waitress.
	You also strip club bartender.
	Yeah, I want the fine line.
	And so your ex-fiancé asked you, requested for you to stop doing that.
	Into the mic, closer to the mic.
	Yeah, all of it.
	Quit everything.
	Quit all my jobs, move, be with him, travel with him, travel with him for work, everything.
	Just drop it.
	And I did.
	You know what?
	Really quick going back to you, Brenda.
	Like at least with the killing one, don't you almost think not answering, like, wouldn't that almost have a worse impact on your digital footprint?
	Because it seems so obvious that the answer ought to be, like, I'm going to save 100 people from death.
	Look, SA is fucking terrible.
	It's a disgusting crime.
	But like 100 dead people, like, yeah, it's really like, oh, would you rather save your son or your daughter?
	It's like a really fucked up, hard thing to think about, right?
	Yeah.
	No, I hear where you come from.
	And I think it's because I is not.
	So when I say digital footprint, it's not that I care what people think from like from like their perspectives.
	It's I'm answering is what it's with what aligns with how I feel about myself.
	And if I don't know, if I don't know the answer to the question, then someone wants to view me not answering it in that way, then cool.
	Because like that, I don't care.
	But I'm just, I'm not going to answer it because that's what aligns with what's inside of here.
	Yeah.
	But if you, I guess what I'm trying to say is if you do have an answer, but you're like, I don't want to share the answer because I'm worried about the digital firmware.
	No, I just don't know.
	But I think people can make an inference by like the refusal to answer the question.
	Like that could be almost worse.
	I don't know.
	Anyways, whatever.
	Not a big thing.
	And then it's worse.
	It's because I just don't know.
	That's why I can't answer it.
	Patrice, can you read this for us?
	Actually, no, Alina, you need to talk.
	Go ahead.
	Speak.
	Chair, I can't really see.
	Chair one, you don't realize it, but you're fascist.
	It is better to let 10 guilty free than to imprison one innocent man.
	This is the foundation of Western justice.
	That is the foundation of Western justice.
	Your lack of education shows.
	Do you want to respond to Christopher?
	Thank you, Christopher, the 100.
	I would say, like, thanks for the information.
	And yeah, maybe I should go home and I should learn some more.
	Think about it.
	Think about it.
	Ivy, we need you back.
	We have a chat for you.
	Somebody wants to say something to you, Ivy.
	They, here it comes.
	All right.
	Blackbird donated $200.
	Ivy, just be talking.
	Love that girl.
	Let the girls next to you get a chance to speak to.
	You just keep talking and talking.
	Oh, shit.
	I know I talk a lot.
	But that's almost like, well, let her talk.
	Let her ask the question.
	Wait, so find just really quick on the primary victims of war thing, men or women?
	I think it was like men or women.
	I think I said women.
	You said women and children.
	Oh, then men, yeah.
	Okay.
	I guess one final, I mean, you've already, maybe you've changed your position on this, but like, would you say that, for example, if a woman is going through birth and there's a lot of physical pain, would you think she's the primary, I wouldn't call her a victim, but like she's the primary sufferer of physical pain.
	But as a man, watching your wife give birth, that could be difficult, and you would suffer too to some degree seeing her in physical pain.
	So do you think the man is the primary victim of or primary sufferer of the pregnancy?
	No, what the heck?
	Oh no, she squeezed my hand really hard when she was giving birth.
	Do you know this actually was a video with this two beautiful couple in LA?
	Like, but the girl was like filming the husband because he was crying so much and she was like, it's not even as painful as him like seeing him cry.
	Like she wasn't crying, but he was crying a lot.
	And so I think that reminds me of what you say.
	But I think overall, that was just like a very special case.
	Just a few more of these.
	We won't be able to hit all of them.
	Do women have equal rights to men in the USA?
	Brenda, you marked both, so I don't really know.
	Is that like a maybe?
	Yeah, I think because I listened to this podcast of how rights have like changed, but I just said maybe because I don't know.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	Patrice, you say yes.
	Callie, you say no.
	Ivy, you say no.
	Bailey says.
	Do women have equal rights?
	She says yes.
	Stephanie, you say yes.
	So I think it's just Callie, Ivy.
	I'm your friend.
	So I guess really quick, like, you think women don't have equal rights to men in the United States?
	How so?
	I don't think that.
	How do you say?
	I said that, right?
	But I would say I can't think about specific laws, right?
	Because I didn't really study that.
	But I think about the experience.
	Experiences.
	Yeah, I think it's really about experience.
	And I think that maybe it's like more like a, not, what was it?
	It's like more of a de facto law, like, you know, a society law, like, rather than a de jure law made by like our government.
	And which I will, I would say, like, maybe women aren't given the same equal rights as men, de facto-wise, not di jur.
	Yeah.
	What's an example?
	Um, an example would be can't think of one right now.
	Oh, gosh.
	Um, I think about overall, I guess, I guess I'm thinking about more about back then, like, um, like thinking about my grandparents.
	Like, my grandma wasn't allowed to like read or write.
	Like, this, like, in her, wherever she grew up, like, they just didn't let women read or write.
	But then men.
	United States.
	No, she didn't.
	But this, yeah.
	She grew up where?
	She grew up in like a small village in Vietnam.
	I mean, look, I don't know the specifics of the Vietnamese policy and the.
	But we didn't say equal rights in the United States, did we?
	It is in the United States, yes.
	It says?
	It says, yes, in the United States.
	Oh, I didn't read that.
	It says equal rights.
	So I guess in America, I can't think of one, so I guess I will have to default.
	You said it was your grandma?
	Yeah.
	She wasn't able to learn.
	Wasn't that also the case for like most of the peasantry in like almost all countries?
	Like, I would say most of the men were illiterate too.
	I think that it's like different because my grandpa and her came from the same social class, but like wait, how old's your grandma?
	This is your grandma.
	Yeah, my grandma.
	In Vietnam.
	Yeah, she's like 60.
	So, how old was she in the late 1960s?
	Do you know when she was born?
	I actually have no idea.
	Wait.
	I don't even know her birthday.
	Vietnam was like late 60s, early 70s, right?
	Are you talking about the war?
	Yeah, but I don't know if they would have been older.
	How old's your grandpa?
	My grandpa is like 70.
	70.
	So wait, 70.
	How old would he have been during Vietnam?
	The Vietnam War?
	I think he was probably like 35.
	Wait, hold on.
	30.
	No, 20.
	I just want to let you know it was nice to meet all of you.
	I appreciate it coming on this fine, fine evening and having this great discussion.
	You were all very, very kind tonight.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Yeah, it felt like we had some really good back and forth.
	And it was nice to meet all of you.
	Andrew, thank you for joining us.
	Shoot us over, Ray.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Gotcha.
	Take it.
	Thank you.
	Good night.
	So, wait, maybe the chat's going to be able to tell me this.
	Chat, do you have the number?
	How old would the grandfather be at this age?
	I don't know.
	15?
	Was he, would he have been VC?
	I don't know.
	Or not VC, the.
	It's Viet Com.
	That's the.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He would have been like the NVA.
	Or wait, hold on.
	Am I getting?
	I'm getting my shit mixed up.
	My family was not really involved in the war.
	Yeah.
	It's like there's people like neutral participants.
	They were in Vietnam.
	Yeah, they're in Vietnam.
	Yeah, you don't have to pick a side.
	You can just be like, yeah, but I don't know if it's like, okay, my mom, she couldn't read and write, but like my dad was getting education.
	No, he's getting like gunned down by VCs.
	Yeah, but again, I said my family didn't participate in the war.
	I don't know.
	The choice was between living in a tunnel in the jungle of Vietnam versus not being able to read.
	I think I'd and then just like getting fucking napalmed by the United States government.
	But women agent orange and shit.
	No, yeah, sure.
	There was indiscriminate, yeah, there's indiscriminate napalm bombing in the Vietnam War, but it's like they were like a little more insulated, more protected.
	So, I mean, I think it's kind of probably worse.
	Like, yeah, your grandma couldn't like read and write or wasn't allowed to do that.
	I don't even know what the case is there.
	But like, your grandpa was like getting napalmed.
	Like, what?
	No, again, my grandpa did not find it.
	No, I'm not saying that he would have, maybe he would have been of the age where he would have.
	Well, he was of the age.
	He's way older than that.
	Like, when the war ended, I think they had my mom at that time.
	So, like, they were able to.
	I mean, the war was like, what, 10 years?
	I think it was a long time.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	10 years?
	Maybe they were like above.
	Yeah, they were like 16.
	Yeah.
	They're probably 16.
	So they probably would have been able to fight, but he didn't.
	Well, wait, if you were 20 in 1970, that would make you 75?
	Yeah, so I guess he's 75.
	We don't really celebrate his birthday, so I don't know how old he is.
	He's like 70, 75.
	Yeah, we don't keep track of that.
	So he would have been fighting age during the Vietnam War.
	Yeah, I said that he was supposed to fight.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Look, your grandma couldn't, she wasn't allowed to learn how to read and write.
	Your grandpa was of the fighting age where he was getting he.
	Well, I don't know what side of the fucking conflict he was.
	No, no, again, they didn't pick a side.
	Like, they were just like affected by the war.
	Like, they're just trying to not get killed.
	Right, but there were like Vietnamese fighting on both sides.
	I think it's a majority of people like in any war-torn country, like you can think about like in Germany, like are they fighting, like actively fighting, or there's people that are just living and going about their daily lives.
	Yeah, but I feel like being forced to fight in a war is worse than not being allowed to learn how to read or write.
	No one was forcing my grandpa to fight in a war.
	You're saying there wasn't a military conscription in Vietnam?
	I mean, it depends on what side of Vietnam you lived in.
	I'm look, I'm not an expert in the Vietnamese conflict.
	I'm pretty sure whether you're VC, I don't know if the other side is called the NVA.
	I'm pretty sure there's military conscription.
	Yeah, they were like taking boys and like sending them off to like fighting.
	Oh, they're sending boys.
	Were they sending girls?
	Oh, that's even worse.
	Thank you for bringing that up.
	Yeah, they're sending child, child soldiers.
	And they were just boys, right?
	Yeah, a lot of people.
	Oh, that's what were the children, girls doing?
	I don't know.
	They're probably forcing them to like be.
	They weren't getting napalmed.
	They're probably forcing them to become comfort women.
	And yeah, the most famous picture of getting napalmed was like of that girl running, you know?
	So she's here in the States now.
	Yeah.
	Good talk.
	All right.
	I got to move it on to, I think maybe this is the final one.
	Are women oppressed in the United States?
	To which I think it's just you guys again.
	Ivy, you said yes, women are oppressed in the United States.
	Why are they oppressed?
	Why are they oppressed?
	Yeah, why are women?
	How?
	How are women oppressed?
	I guess maybe it's about our experience.
	Maybe because I grew up in a very Asian family where my mom was like, you have to do this because you're a woman.
	And so that's why I think I had that experience where I think women are getting oppressed.
	But like, isn't there a massive amount of pressure on men in Asian families?
	I don't know.
	They get treated like royalty.
	What do you mean?
	You got to succeed.
	Same with me.
	I have to succeed.
	Everyone has to succeed to be from an Asian family, regardless of gender.
	Okay.
	Who's the main provider, usually, in an Asian family?
	In Vietnamese families, it was funny, women.
	Because the men are bad with money.
	Really?
	Vietnamese culture.
	Yeah, I think because of some trauma or whatever, but like usually it's like a common thing where like Vietnamese dads will like gamble and be very abusive and the moms work at nail salons to provide for the whole family.
	Well here, maybe I can that's like very racist.
	I mean it's not racist.
	That's a stereotype.
	Would you say when it comes to the oppression, do you think the gender pay gap is evidence of female oppression?
	Yeah, I guess there are instances of I mean I, you know, in my experience do I feel like there's gender gap?
	I said yes because, like I did say I believe in it, just because in my experience I don't.
	I haven't had that experience where, like I get paid less because I'm female.
	But I just read about these other people's experiences and I think that overall I cannot, you know yeah, say I'm like oh, I guess there is like a gender pay gap.
	I don't think there is like like think about, I think like people in like director roles and stuff, like you see mainly men in like these like high level positions of like their CEO directors, and so I think that these opportunities where you can grow within a company oftentimes are given to males, and I think, like coming from Asia, Why do you say given?
	Why don't you say earned?
	Oh, I mean, it's like, yeah, yeah, earned.
	I earned.
	Earned by males.
	Yeah.
	Well, do you think that?
	Maybe you think it's just given to men on a no, I don't think so.
	I think they definitely have to earn it.
	Like, not just like any guy can get this like level position.
	But I will say, yeah, they definitely earned it.
	But maybe there are some women that were like overlooked for that role because of their gender.
	Yeah.
	Could be.
	I would lean more towards they earned it.
	Okay, they earned it.
	I don't actually dispute that there's a greater proportion.
	I mean, the data reflects this.
	There is a greater proportion of men in positions of power or who have these kind of more lucrative jobs in corporations.
	Executives, so forth.
	But it's not clear to me if it was handed to.
	Well, it isn't.
	It's not the case that it's handed to them simply because they're men.
	No, yeah, yeah, no.
	They definitely have the credentials.
	They're able to, but maybe if it's like a woman or a guy up for the same role, maybe they might be leaning to give it to a good guy.
	There's a lot of ways to approach the gender wage gap discourse, but I think one of the most interesting novel ones that I don't really hear other people talking about this besides me, to be honest, is the social and mating pressure component here.
	So didn't you say you want a guy to pay for the first date?
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Do you want a guy to provide for you, like in a relationship?
	You want a guy that, like second, third date, you want a guy to pay for the date?
	Those dates?
	Okay.
	And then like, you want kids, right?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	And so do you want to take time off work?
	When you have kids?
	I think it's like, yeah, like you said, go ask a question, like, who is providing them?
	Because, like, if, you know, the guy is like doing all this.
	Yeah.
	So I guess like, yeah, I think that's important to take off time.
	Dude, my friends, like, they get maternity leave for their little dogs.
	Like, you should have it for kids, too.
	But so in your own personal life, even though it seems like you're maybe a bit more, would you consider yourself more liberal, progressive?
	I don't know.
	I guess, I guess, liberal, I guess progressive.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you still want a man to kind of be traditional in some ways, like pay for dates, etc.
	I want, just to bring in the entire panel here, I'm going to ask you like 10 different questions.
	I just want show of hands for each.
	Are you attracted to men with status?
	Show of hands.
	Status.
	Status.
	Raise them high.
	Raise them high so we can see.
	Oh, no.
	Raise your other hand just because we're on this camera?
	Subconsciously, though, I do do that.
	Okay.
	Are you attracted to men who are successful?
	Show of hands.
	Are you attracted to men who make a lot of money?
	Do you want a man who is a leader?
	No.
	Okay, do you want a man who takes charge?
	No?
	Okay.
	Do you want a man to take initiative?
	Yeah, initiative.
	Have you ever asked a guy out on a first date?
	On a first date.
	I don't think I ever asked a guy out and it's like, this is a date.
	It's like, oh, let's hang out.
	And I don't know if it was a date or not.
	Like, it was just like, oh, let's hang out.
	Because when I first moved to LA, I just wanted to hang out with a lot of different people.
	Do you want a man to make the first move for everybody?
	Show of hands?
	Make the first move?
	Okay.
	Do you want a man to plan the date?
	The first one?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Do you want the man to pay for the first date?
	Show of hands?
	No, for you, Brenta.
	Do you want a man to go for the first kiss?
	Like they should ask for permission, right?
	That would make it a little bit not sexy.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	Do you want a man to move things forward physically beyond just a kiss?
	So sex.
	Yeah.
	Do you want the man to go 50-50?
	Do you want to go 50-50 with a man financially?
	Do you want a man to take care of all the bills?
	Whoosh.
	Whoish.
	Do you want to take a few years off work when you have kids?
	Years is a long time.
	Years.
	Do you want to take months off work?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Final one.
	Do you want to be a stay-at-home mom while your husband works?
	Okay.
	So you see all these show of hands, right?
	I'll relate this to one, the gender pay gap, and then two, why men hold these positions of these executive positions, leadership positions, more so in company.
	Couldn't it just be the case that because when it comes to romance and dating, we're just more experienced because of your own preferences.
	Like all the things I just listed, leader, take charge, initiative, plan for first dates, these would all translate to leadership positions.
	We're more practiced in making the first move, taking initiative, being leaders in our personal private lives when it comes to romantic relationships.
	I think that this is going to translate itself to being more attractive to employers.
	So if you practice a certain trait, you're going to become good at it.
	Women don't have that same ability to practice for certain traits that are deemed valuable in the corporate world in their romantic life.
	So for example, for example, and I'll let you come in in just a sec.
	Somebody who's a skateboarder, if they could become really good at skateboarding, that's going to translate to like snowboarding or surfing, other board sports.
	So I don't know.
	It just seems to me like, or maybe like you're a really good swimmer.
	That's going to translate in a couple different ways.
	You're going to be really, you're going to be better at surfing because surfing requires paddling.
	So the skills that men develop in romantic pursuits lend themselves to the corporate world.
	And in addition to that, in addition to that, you all want, you all said you're attracted to men with status, successful, make money leaders.
	You're attracted to all those traits.
	So you reward men who develop those traits that translate to the corporate world.
	Men don't really care about your status, your success, your money.
	It might be a nice little bonus, but I don't think it makes you actually more attractive to men.
	And so when it comes to the gender pay gap or men occupying, there's a men are more likely to occupy these positions, executive positions.
	It's because of you guys.
	It's because of women.
	You exert a mating pressure on men that we don't exert on you.
	Like I would never, a girl doesn't want to pay for the first date.
	Okay.
	I don't care.
	Oh, you can't, you're broke.
	I don't care.
	You're hot and broke.
	Don't care.
	Oh, you work at Chick-fil-A and I'm an attorney.
	Don't care.
	Really?
	But like a female attorney, you think she's going to date the guy who works at Chick-fil-A, even if he's handsome?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	And so we just value different things.
	So I think the wage gap just be completely explained away by that.
	Put such a massive mating pressure on men, they have to earn more.
	They have to work harder because we both have to survive, men and women.
	That's a huge motivating factor.
	Can y'all still get laid if you're broke?
	King guys?
	Yes, some broke guys, whatever.
	But like, if the guy's not going to take, if 50% of the women are like, the guy has to pay for the first date, that's a massive mating pressure.
	Like, oh, I have to, as a guy, we're not just thinking about her survival.
	We're thinking in order for me to attract a woman, I need status.
	I need money.
	I need success.
	I don't think that probably crosses your, like, you probably don't think about like when it comes to attracting men.
	You don't think like the first step I got to do, or one of the steps I got to do is like, I got to get my money right before I can get a dude.
	I don't think you guys think that.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you think that?
	Yeah, well, it's not to get a dude.
	It's because eventually, like, if I have, if, if I am on pursuit to my goals, eventually I will attract a man who is also on pursuit to his goals.
	But like, I do recognize that, like, it is a little bit unconventional to like feel that way.
	But that, that's, I was going to ask you the question: if, like, do you feel as if like it is pressure on the male if the woman is also putting the pressure on herself and that's just what she wants in a relationship?
	She wants, she wants, she wants someone who's going to be a leader and have these like CEO traits because she as well like wants to learn and wants to have that.
	Do you feel like that is also putting pressure?
	On the woman?
	No, like, like, like in her situation, is that her, is that putting pressure on males that she's also putting pressure on herself?
	Like, wouldn't that make it equal?
	She's putting what pressure on herself?
	Um, to have status, to have money, to have whatever.
	Yes, I mean, but it wouldn't be for romantic reasons.
	Like, she wouldn't be like, she'd be doing it for her own ambition, her own ambition.
	But, like, the ambition is not fueled by, like, if I don't do X, I won't be able to get a man.
	I don't think that thought crosses women's head, but like, as a guy, you're thinking about that all the time.
	And, like, one of the considerations, huh?
	Oh, sorry.
	Oh, you don't have to apologize.
	But, like, as a guy, oh, you're, wait, okay, that's my sorry.
	Sorry, default.
	I'm sorry.
	It's okay.
	Like, as men, we are considering like, okay, if I want to look economically, financially attractive to a woman, I have to be this successful.
	I have to make this much money.
	I want to provide for a girl.
	There's like, maybe, let's say it's 20% of women want to be stay-at-home, stay-at-home.
	That means that if they want that, 20% of the men have to make enough money to be able to provide that for the woman.
	So, that's going to create such a significant pressure on men to do that.
	And then there's just downstream of that.
	Okay, maybe she doesn't want to be a stay-at-home mom.
	She wants guys to pay for dates.
	She doesn't want to pay for dates.
	Massive amount of social and mating pressure exerted from women to men.
	Yeah.
	So it's interesting to hear that because like in the area that I grew up, it was like very like low, like low income.
	So a lot of the times it was always 50-50 or it was always even sometimes I've had had friends who have taken care of their partners.
	So like that's that's that's what I, that's where I come from of like seeing that.
	And then I also seen the most extreme because I got into it of just like having a male like fully take care of a woman.
	So it's just, it's just interesting to hear that.
	It's like the kind of like embedded in like society is like to feel the need to feel like you have to do that in order to gain or to get have a relationship.
	Yeah.
	All right, we're gonna do a roast session here.
	20.
	Uh, we'll do 20.
	We're gonna do 20 roast session.
	Uh, roast away.
	Let me get that all set up, though.
	Any uh, there's a few more notes that we need to get through, but any thoughts from any of the panelists, any topics you want to hit on?
	Maybe men are pissing you off in some way.
	You want to ask for advice?
	I don't know.
	Uh, anybody, anything.
	Oh, yeah, what is it?
	Huh?
	Huh?
	What you want to ask for advice?
	What?
	Go ahead, do it.
	Okay.
	Okay, fuck.
	I'm going to do it.
	So, so, there's this guy who I had, we had seen each other twice, and he's a guy who I asked out.
	And I went to it with the intention that, you know, like I'm not in a place to date, and I'm not going to make the assumption that he is.
	So, I just wanted to, like, you know, just like enjoy each other's company.
	I was really energetically attracted to him.
	And it was the first time I ever felt this way.
	So, I really wanted to go out.
	I had a product drop and I wanted to celebrate, and I wanted to celebrate with him.
	And I took him out to dinner and I paid for his dinner.
	And then he sends me like this text about trying to cut it off, saying, I think we'll be just better off parents, better off friends, better our friends.
	And then I told him what my stance was.
	I was like, okay, like, I totally understand your boundaries.
	I thought we were just friends too.
	Blah, And then he takes it back.
	He's like, oh, actually, I didn't know that you felt this way.
	Actually, like, okay, we're good with where we're at.
	And my question is, this is the first time where I've ever felt okay to contribute financially, like in any type of like, obviously, we're not in a relationship, but just any type of like something that could be something.
	And I'm not attached to that feeling, but I just know like, okay, so if we go with the flow, like whatever happens, happens.
	But because I did that, I just feel like maybe it might have scared him.
	And I, the last thing I want is to scare like a man away.
	So I was my advice, my need for advice would be like, do I need to lay back and not be so kind of like not assertive, but like, I don't know, like, like, like, do these things that society states a man should do.
	If I, if I want.
	If a man wants to be with you, you'll know if a man men are hunting.
	Like, we do live hunter-gatherer.
	It's biology.
	If a man wants you, he will chase you.
	If a man wants you, he will let you know.
	If a man wants to talk to you, he will text you.
	If a man wants to be with you, he will take the initiative to be with you.
	A man who actually wants you isn't going to play a game with you on this texting back and forth.
	Like, oh, today we're just friends, but now because you said we're just friends, now I want more.
	If a man wants you, you will know.
	I love that.
	I agree with that.
	Thank you for sharing.
	That was so powerful.
	Like, we touched on the subject earlier that men don't really express their emotions and how like we tend to cry the most.
	So I think whenever a guy decides to express their feelings and say that they want to take you serious, that we should like be like, okay, well, he decided to actually express to me about his feelings.
	So therefore, he must actually want me.
	Oh, I don't know.
	That's a hot take.
	It's like guys are, you know, they can be manipulative too.
	They can feel that you're leaving and they're like, oh, shoot, I don't want to be alone.
	So they can just say whatever they want or, you know, say anything just to get you back.
	But I think that, yeah, if he wants you, like you definitely would feel it by his actions.
	Not only his words, but also his actions as well.
	What made you want to pay for dinner?
	Is he like a brokey?
	No.
	It was just, I was celebrating a product drop, and I just wanted to say I like to take care of the people that are around me.
	And I didn't do it in a way where it's like, oh, I want something from this.
	I just enjoy taking care of people that are around me if I could do it.
	Yeah.
	If I can't do it, I won't do it.
	But if I could.
	Chair four.
	I can't.
	Hey, guys, who were advanced?
	You want to roast?
	Where would we leave?
	Wait, wait.
	No, don't read.
	That's so mean.
	The rose and what was the roast?
	No.
	Be me.
	I guess.
	Okay, can I ask a question then?
	Yeah.
	Do you want advice still?
	Or she gave you good advice, especially she gave you a good idea.
	Oh, I'm with all advice.
	I diagnosed it.
	Did anyone?
	Oh, I gotta, I'll move it on though.
	Oh, I just wanted to ask something.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay.
	I know this is like really like touchy subject, but would girls these days be interested in going on a pick, like getting paid to go on a date, but it's not sexual.
	So the guy's not allowed to touch you, kiss you, or do anything.
	He just wants someone to eat dinner with him and watch the movie or play golf and he pays you for your time.
	Would you do it?
	That's a sugar daddy.
	Is that sugar daddy?
	Because I feel like you have to give sugar to get that money.
	The sugar is your presence.
	Have you done that?
	Oh.
	Have you done that?
	Have I done that?
	No comment.
	You don't know.
	But I'm just wondering, is that like a bad thing if it's nothing sexual?
	Because I don't know if I should disclose that to like future partners.
	Is that sex work?
	Does that would that be considered sex work?
	It's like walking the fine line between like escorting and not escorting.
	Like I feel like it is, but it isn't.
	Like, I don't know.
	Yeah, I would probably disclose that.
	Like, I wouldn't be like, we have to talk about this.
	This is so serious.
	I used to be an escort.
	I would be like, haha, like, man, you said that.
	I don't think it would be sex work.
	No, if you're not actually.
	It's getting close.
	It's like they just pay you for your companionship.
	Like, oh, it's someone to talk to because they feel lonely and they just like talking to me.
	Like, I'll be honest, I met this random guy and Craig was in SF and I was like looking for furniture.
	Oh, and then basically what happened was like, he's like, oh my god, you're so cool.
	Like, do you want to get dinner?
	And I was like, oh, yeah, we can get dinner.
	Like, I'm broke.
	Like, you know, I was working as a teacher on a 50k salary living in the Bay Area.
	Of course, I'll take a free dinner.
	And so we went to go get dinner.
	He paid and he was like, you know what?
	I really like your presence.
	I have a couple of events I had to go to.
	I wouldn't mind paying you just to come along with me.
	And so, yeah, I just did that.
	And so I was like, is that like an escort thing?
	I don't know because it was never anything sexual.
	Yeah.
	I think he's trying to smash that.
	Really?
	No, he was so nice.
	And he would like send my kids stuff, buy us like Krispy Kreme donuts like every week and like buy it for my coworkers too.
	And I never saw him.
	He dropped it off and he leaves.
	I never get to see him.
	But you literally just said that.
	A strange man, I'll let you come in.
	A strange man drops stuff off at an elementary school.
	Like he knew I worked there because we like we talked.
	He was like, oh, so like, what do you do?
	I was like, oh, I'm a teacher in Oakland.
	And so he would like give us like pencils, notebooks.
	He gave the kids gifts.
	I didn't need a list of gift cards.
	Sons of Liberty Donate.
	I'll let you come in on this stuff.
	Listening to the woke leftist teacher and chair one proves how the left doesn't think for themselves.
	They just regurgitate liberal ideology.
	Can a Confederate flag fly to or just the gay flag?
	Oh God.
	I think like the Confederate flag, it implies so many other things besides the ideology.
	I feel like it was like not just towards one group, it's like towards like different groups that they're really like prejudiced against and they try to kill.
	So I've been thinking about it.
	Steph, you had something?
	Yeah, so you mentioned, um, I said if a guy we were saying that if a guy wants you, he will make it known.
	Earlier, you mentioned guys don't really express their feelings.
	So, if they ever tell you and express their feelings, like, hey, I want you, we should take it serious, since they don't really express it.
	You said that they need to be saying things to manipulate you, yet you don't think it's manipulation, all the gift buying and things that he was doing to you.
	Um, I don't think it was manipulation because he never said that these gifts are tied to something.
	And because I give you these gifts, I expect the behavior from you.
	It was literally like, oh, here, this is enjoy it.
	Like, you know, have fun.
	As a parent, I would feel some type of thing.
	Can you please say how much signal I need to cut across eight lane?
	I turn now.
	Good luck, everybody else.
	What?
	How much signal I need to cut?
	That's chair three.
	Oh, I know.
	I'm just reading for myself.
	Oh, my God.
	Dude, it's okay.
	It was like how much you're doing.
	You owe me one for this, Rob.
	Chair three, can you please say how much signal I need to cut across eight lane?
	I turn now.
	Okay, just read it.
	Chair three, can you please say how much is signal aniti cut?
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	Chair 4, you need to stop with the home every time Brixon talks.
	The chat is absolutely cooked.
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	That's funny.
	I think there's a thing where donated $20.
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	That's a lot of M's.
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	Chair 1, you look like Sid from Toy Story.
	Boom, roasted.
	Chair 4, you should take a long walk off a short pier.
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	Brian, get on that cardio man.
	The burrito diet ain't working.
	Roasted.
	I gotta lose it, boys.
	I've been working on it, working on it.
	I've lost some like 10 pounds.
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	Can Chair 4, the liberal degenerate, who indoctrinated children, please sing, deck the halls with boughs of holly, falalala, la la la la.
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	I don't.
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	Smash.
	It's flat out his court.
	Oh, wow.
	He says it's escorting.
	I don't.
	Oh, what?
	He's flat out escorting.
	Like going on a date?
	Like, it's not a date.
	Like, there's nothing romantic in all.
	Like, he'll never ask stuff about my dating history.
	He never asked me about stuff like body count or like morals or like what you want in a partner.
	Is there just like, oh, what are some funny stories you have?
	What the hell?
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, no, I deleted one.
	Fuck.
	What?
	What are you going to say?
	Ah, shit.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to have to pull it up manually.
	My bad.
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	Chair 1 can be fixed.
	She has the potential.
	Chair 4 is beyond hope.
	He can fix it.
	Chair 2.
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	Great show.
	Wait, so is Michael Jones?
	Shit.
	Hold on.
	Where is this?
	Ah, dude.
	That's annoying.
	I'm trying to.
	Wait.
	Where?
	Wait.
	What?
	Um.
	Wait, what?
	Chair one can be fixed?
	Oh, my God.
	Is it mean?
	Some.
	I don't know.
	That's never happened before.
	One of the TTSs was deleted.
	It won't even show to me in the because.
	Wait.
	Is there a way to see like deleted ones?
	Fuck.
	Oh, man.
	I'm sorry.
	Whoever that was.
	I can't even.
	I can't find any.
	Is it these?
	No, no.
	Because it's showing.
	The one was deleted before Michael Jones, and then it was.
	But after the.
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	If.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how to figure that out.
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	Chair 1.
	Those tattoos can't hide those chicken eyes.
	Chair 2.
	Less makeup and less talky.
	Chair 3.
	Did someone hit your face with a shovel?
	Wait, that's the one you really did.
	Why'd you do that again?
	I didn't.
	No, when he was going to do that one.
	No, yeah, yeah, you are here.
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	Chair 4, I can't.
	I don't pick on those who have learning disabilities.
	Chair 5, stay the course.
	Chair 6, less injections.
	Chair 7, gone.
	Good.
	Chair 8, stay the course.
	Brian, keep it up.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	What is stay the course?
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	Aha, ha I think that's just me.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
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	Chair 4.
	Are you a smoke detector?
	Cause damn your annoying and won't shut the fuck up.
	Chair one is a perfect example of what happens when your dad doesn't love you.
	They turn to rapes to feel loved.
	Wow.
	Hey, my dad loves me and I love my dad.
	That's all I want to say.
	Damn, what the fuck.
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	Chair 4, you are insufferable.
	Why am I getting so hate comments?
	See, that one worked a little better.
	I think it was just too many M's before.
	Rose session.
	Brian, if you could be a billionaire but never have any kind of physicality with a woman, ever, or you could sleep with three different women a week forever, all sevens or eights.
	What would you choose?
	Why?
	I want the chat to answer this one also.
	Because that's an interesting question.
	So, I mean, this would entail: can I still have kids?
	Like, IVF artificial insemination or whatever.
	If I could still have kids, fuck, that's hard.
	Can't sleep with them.
	Can I still what?
	Can I still have kids?
	That's the big thing.
	Chat, what do you pick?
	Would billion?
	Chat, billionaire, but you can never sleep with a woman, or you can sleep with how many women did he say?
	Three different women, different women a week, forever, all sevens and eights.
	That's not bad, though.
	Some people are saying take the billion.
	I think that when men have a lot of money, what do they go for?
	It's women.
	Like, they just want to be surrounded by girls.
	Oh, man, that's a hard one.
	Everything in the world is tied to money and sex.
	Does anybody in the chat take the women?
	Does anybody in the chat take the women?
	To be fair, if you were a billionaire, you could.
	Well, oh, I guess he said you can't, right?
	Yeah, I think you can't sleep.
	Yeah, no, you can't.
	You would never be able to have sex again.
	What about like brain, though?
	Can you get oral sex?
	Or does it not?
	I think it's always sex in general.
	You can say the oral isn't sex, so yeah, you can.
	Ah, okay.
	All right, there you go.
	If Bill Clinton said it, then okay, we have a couple more.
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	But she, chair three, better say it this time.
	I turn now.
	Good luck, everybody else.
	Wait, say it again?
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	Is that front?
	What is that from?
	It's a family guy.
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	She's like, I think she's Korean or Chinese.
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	We've all lost so many brain cells from today's.
	I teach.
	I literally teach people.
	I taught people for a living.
	Oh, is it not going to play?
	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	Brian, when are you going to go to Andrew's property and do some shooting?
	You could make an in-person appearance on the his show for a change, too.
	Yeah, that'd be cool.
	I'd like to do that sometime.
	That, yeah.
	I'm just so tied up with everything here in California, but I eventually do that.
	Maybe we'll get Andrew in California, though.
	Who knows?
	We'll see.
	Let's see.
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	Chair 4, the Bay Area is fucked because of people like you.
	If these are the women I had to choose from, I'd take the money.
	What the?
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	Chair 1's views can be fixed.
	2, 8.
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	What did we learn?
	Yup, less talking and way less UM, I think.
	I gotta think.
	I don't wanna say stuff I don't mean.
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	Chair 1, learn a thing or two from Chair 8, and you will find happiness and fulfillment in life.
	Chair 4, not my quote, but someone in the chat called you Japanese.
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	Take the billion all day.
	Get a sex doll if need be.
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	Chair one's dad is sad.
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	I'm not real lady, I'm ladyboy.
	Oh my god.
	Can you say it?
	I'm a real lady and lady boy.
	What's that?
	What about you?
	Okay, that's thank you.
	Thank you, sons of oh shit.
	She did it again.
	She did it again.
	You know what?
	I feel with the billion thing.
	Are you still thinking about that?
	I'm still thinking about that.
	If I was younger, I think I would have taken the billion.
	Because I didn't have money when I was younger, but I'm already like doing.
	I'm doing okay.
	So I'll just keep working a bit.
	Yeah, I think you can achieve a billion.
	Yeah.
	No, no, I can't achieve it.
	You can achieve it.
	You can literally achieve it.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it's a mindset.
	You know what?
	You're so right.
	Why don't we take a bit?
	I don't know.
	I think now, shit.
	I'm doing okay.
	Honestly, once you make beyond a certain amount of money, like, look, I know a billion is a lot.
	I know how much, like, that's life-changing.
	Like, in an insane way.
	But, uh, shit, man.
	Take the billionaire's money and then get the women.
	No, you can't.
	This girl without lady.
	Get the lady boy.
	Get the lady boy.
	Oh, get the lady boy.
	No, lady boy.
	No, no, it was sex in general.
	Sex in general.
	Oh, he played.
	Okay.
	Oh, let's do the supers.
	Alina, I'm going to have you read the supers.
	Go ahead.
	Chair five, stay in the course.
	Chair six, less injections.
	Chair seven, gone, good.
	Chair eight, stay in the course.
	Brian, keep it up.
	Read the course.
	Chair one, your hands down, the most beautiful girl I have ever seen.
	And I'm Australian.
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	Bailey, what do you call it?
	Oh, what do you, why are you making that face, Bailey?
	Well, I don't understand.
	Uh-oh, okay, she doesn't really know.
	Oh, okay.
	Last one.
	Chair eight, marry me.
	Chair four, oh, chair three, say you go now.
	You've been here four hours.
	You go now.
	Wow.
	All right, guys, $20 TTS.
	We have a few more things to get through.
	Really quick, we have the thing.
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	For you?
	Brandy?
	Brenda?
	Sorry.
	Brandy.
	Brenda.
	As long as they're working towards a billion.
	They don't have to have it, but as long as that's in their mind, I know what.
	Maybe I understand like billion.
	Whoa, it's crazy.
	Then let's say maybe it's somebody that's more comprehensible, like millions, but at least if they're working towards that and they know how to, and they know how to get there and they're willing to put in the work, that's what I care about.
	Okay, because I mean, I don't think like a man is lacking confidence if he's just realistic and he's like, I'm not going to be a billionaire.
	Like, I think that's kind of realistic.
	Okay, then let's say in the millions.
	Because I have that mindset.
	I know I can get there and I want my partner to have that same mindset.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So ultimately, I want to be a stay-at-home mother.
	I want like the submissive, normal, like from like a 1960s relationship with gender roles.
	But in the interim, like I don't, I don't mind working.
	I've never had a problem working.
	I'm someone that'll work 80, 90 hours a week if I have to.
	So while that goes on, I would not date somebody that made less money than me.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Oh.
	She wasn't.
	Husband.
	My future husband.
	Yeah.
	You were at 120k here.
	Oh, yeah.
	Is that the number?
	What about you, Ivy?
	I don't think I put down a number because I will think that he doesn't have like a definitive income.
	You know, it's like whatever you can achieve.
	And if it's enough, then you're happy.
	Yeah, but when you date a guy that makes 50K?
	Like he makes 50K from like one job.
	That's it.
	He makes 50K.
	And then by the time he retires, he's making 60K.
	I mean, maybe it's like his family's taking care of him.
	I think as long as you have the necessities, you know.
	So you do something you love.
	All right.
	How tall are you, and what's the minimum height of a man you would date?
	Is this for me, still?
	No, it's everybody.
	Oh, everybody.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	I'm creepy.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm 5'6.
	I've dated as short as like 5'10, but ideally I would want them to be like 6'2.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, 6'2, 6'2.
	And you're how tall are you?
	She's pretty.
	I am 5'3.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think I've dated like short guys, but I would say like 5'5'10 is my new minimum.
	It used to be like way lower.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I go.
	Okay, I'm 5'6.
	I've only been with guys who are 6'5, but I would go to 5'10.
	Okay.
	I'm 5' and I put 5'8 minimum.
	I'm about 5'5.
	I would date 5'7.
	My homecoming date was 5'7.
	My boyfriend is 6' And then I think this will just be the final thing from the questionnaire.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy and or sold pics?
	Yes.
	What did you have?
	Or what did you do?
	I didn't, well, I mean, I have an OF.
	Oh, I had an OF.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm surprised.
	Don't you guys do your research?
	Yeah, but respectively, sorry, research.
	Do you still link to it?
	You still do it?
	I don't do it actively, but I take it on and off my beacons whenever, like.
	I didn't see it on any of your link tree or anything like that.
	Oh, yeah, it's hidden.
	You have to really be looking for it.
	Yeah.
	I thought you said that you don't post on it anymore.
	I remember we talked about it, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I actually just posted on it.
	When I was in a relationship, I didn't post on it.
	But I actually recently just like post once every month just to keep the subscribers there because people always funnel from my platform.
	Okay, were you doing BG content on there?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	Patrice, you said you sold feet pics for like one week?
	Way back in like when COVID first hit and everyone was getting on OnlyFans like way before Footbinder and nobody got a job and everyone was home doing nothing.
	I had an OnlyFans where I sold foot pictures.
	I think there might have been like a bikini photo similar, comparable to my Instagram on there.
	And then I don't know how, but the thing ended up with like 200 subscribers at $10 a month and it was literally just pictures of my feet.
	And then I got the weirdest request ever, which would have permanently turned me off to doing anything like that ever in my life.
	Stephanie, you said, yes, you've had a sugar daddy and/or sold pics.
	No, I didn't sell pictures, but I had a sugar daddy.
	Wait, you currently have a sugar daddy?
	No, I don't.
	Oh, you had a sugar daddy.
	How much did you make?
	I mean, you would send like about.
	No, how much did you make from the sugar daddy?
	Say about $400 each month.
	For how long?
	It'd be like on and off for like a year.
	So maybe in total you made a couple thousand or something like that?
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Okay, I'm going to let the rest of the roast come through.
	Randy donated $20.
	Chair 4's vacation voice is worse than Demi Hawk's fake little girl voice.
	I had to use my Google machine quite a bit to find her name, despite remembering her on the pod.
	Stop being fake, Biach.
	Oh, wow.
	Me?
	I'm being fake.
	Are you?
	I don't know.
	Wait, like they found my name or what did they think?
	I guess they don't think you're Asian or something.
	I am Asian.
	She's a lie.
	I do not know.
	That was good.
	Wait, that was pretty good.
	That part was pretty good.
	Kind of went downhill.
	Nice.
	Oh, no.
	What?
	Wait, why is Chair 5 safe?
	What do you mean by that?
	Safe from the roast?
	What do you mean?
	What does that mean?
	Explain.
	Can they explain?
	Or would they have to pay more money?
	Michael Jones donated.
	In all seriousness, good panel.
	I think there are some things most of the panel should research after today.
	To chair one, I can fix you.
	Brian, you're a tenant personality.
	Thank you.
	Jay donated $20.
	Thank you, Michael Jones.
	Appreciate it.
	Brian, can you show Ivy, the Asian lady in white, the iconic full metal jacket scene with the Vietnamese hook?
	She sounds exactly like her.
	You know, I can't, Jay, I can't do that, but I can play this.
	Sorry, Jay.
	I think you all did alright, ladies.
	Some of you have some cook views, but you took the criticism in stride, so kudos.
	Chair 3, please say you cheat Dr. Jones.
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	And Chair 1 lost me.
	I make good money, but like.
	Huh?
	Like, huh?
	A billion?
	Billion?
	Like a billion dollars.
	Nah, hashtag drunk long.
	Pasty George donated $20.
	There are 15 years left, give or take a few years, until the magnetic pole shift event.
	What is that?
	Brian, you always have such an epic beard.
	I am jealous.
	You know, I trimmed it today, so I don't know.
	I cut it a little too short.
	I think I fucked it up a bit.
	But thank you.
	I pasty George, appreciate it, man.
	Let's see.
	Giga Huang donated $20.
	Chair 4 is so indoctrinated she's willing to support a program, DEI, that steals opportunities from her own race.
	Lamao.
	She's dated so many white dudes, she thinks she's one of them.
	I've never, I just said my type is Asian.
	What the heck?
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Thank you, Joe.
	You might while missing lately cause I was out of commission same time.
	I told you what it was earlier.
	Have not touched one I entered and don't miss them.
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	Why is the value not weighed based on family dynamic and not the amount in his wallet?
	Hmm.
	It's fair.
	That is good question.
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	She literally had all the symptoms.
	Thought I was confused.
	Glad to hear everything still makes sense.
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	Chair 4, get in touch with your Vietnamese roots.
	I literally just want to thank you for chair 3.
	Now I understand why South Korea is going through a population replacement crisis.
	Holy fook.
	Because it's too expensive to have kids.
	594 donated $20.
	Coonies never die.
	So, how about them slick shoes?
	That guy's Vietnamese.
	You know, Kihui Guang is Vietnamese.
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	Coastal operator donated $19.99.
	From the chat, Chair 3 must have been left in a hot car as a kid because she is absolutely cool.
	What the fuck?
	From me, Chair 2, I can fix you.
	What's your hat?
	It's my name.
	Spelled like Pat Rice.
	99.
	Instagram.
	How are you going to fix it?
	Look, if she.
	Look, you speak Korean.
	Yes.
	It's you're.
	You should press him out in Korean.
	Chris him out.
	No.
	For him.
	It's like English is her second language, maybe.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, you know, maybe she's fucking like 300 IQ in Korean.
	Like she would be so eloquent.
	But like if language is your second language, it's harder, you know?
	Like French is my first language.
	Oh, wow.
	Oh.
	So that's why I'm so dumb in English.
	You good?
	Yeah.
	Wait, can you speak some French?
	Vous levous coucher vic mois ce sois.
	Oh, you have an American accent though.
	Oh, what's the song?
	But you have an American accent.
	There's a lot of French Vietnamese people.
	Like these people.
	The French invaded.
	I cannot say that.
	Bonjour.
	Sauva.
	Mignon.
	Chair one, you're getting a little love.
	Oh.
	Chair one.
	You are stunning.
	You're smiling.
	I need to be fixed.
	I make six figures.
	Yeah, you gotta fix her first.
	He makes six figures, but you gotta compete.
	She's already got a main piece.
	She's got a couple side pieces.
	They're not side pieces.
	Find her to rave, chair one simp.
	You gotta find her to rave.
	Okay, what is this?
	I know.
	Uh-oh.
	The big bottle colours.
	I don't know what, oh, boys.
	What the fuck?
	That's interesting.
	Wow.
	That was really good.
	You're really talented, Bonk.
	Thank you, man.
	All right.
	Let me.
	We didn't do all of Patrice's notes, so we'll get those.
	Let's see, where did we leave off?
	So you were in this two-year relationship.
	We talked about that.
	You wanted to speak a lot about the Reds Pill space.
	You're incredibly red-pilled, but a lot of the men in this space are so fake.
	You're very Republican and red-pilled.
	I just like said, I wasn't sure what I was supposed to send because you sent like a list of water things that you would speak.
	Yeah, so I was just giving like general kind of like answering topics.
	What makes you like, if you had to just fire off three ways, you're red-pilled.
	I believe in traditional gender roles.
	That would be like, that would be probably my main one.
	And then I can't, I'm not going to give like sub-examples of like, I think I should stay home and cook and clean and he should make the money.
	I think that would be like my main one.
	Okay.
	I think that like I do think that I would rather have a male doctor than a female doctor.
	I want a man to be not that I would be upset if a woman was actually qualified.
	Like if my options were Joe Biden or qualified woman, I would pick the qualified woman, but I would prefer to have Donald Trump or somebody like him in office.
	How did you slide into his DMs?
	I followed him and then he slid into my DMs.
	How long ago was this that you met him?
	Donald Trump.
	A year and a half ago.
	Did you follow me a year and a half ago?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	That was like one of the first reels I saw on Alma's Yours and he was like, oh, I have.
	Oh, yeah, I'm not going to.
	Nothing.
	Wait, what?
	I was going to give away identifying details and I'm like, oh, I see.
	I see what you're talking about.
	Okay.
	You said, so you, but this guy who you were engaged to, but that's off as of two weeks ago.
	Wait, if he reached back out to you, he's like, let's make it work.
	Or is this done?
	I just took a 27-hour flight home from Australia after I got left there alone.
	I don't really think that's something that is.
	You left me there high and dry.
	I didn't care about me.
	Like, didn't care what happened to me.
	You just left me there alone.
	I mean, I did.
	What did you do?
	Did you do something?
	I swear I didn't do anything.
	I was just trying to have a conversation.
	Did you stick a never mind?
	Was just trying to have like a conversation about some things in the relationship, and he didn't want to have a conversation about it.
	So, it was just like, I don't know, I guess I annoyed him too much one night and he just packed up and left.
	I kept the ring, and he paid for my flights home.
	So, oh, okay, damn, that's crazy.
	So, is it really high and dry?
	I mean, I was there, literally, I flew 27 hours to live in a different country with this man, leaving my family to go start my own family with him.
	And I fought again, like he was like, oh, it's just a flight.
	No, it was 27 hours.
	I get there.
	I'm not even 12 hours into this trip.
	I'm also at this point incredibly jet-lagged.
	I'm sick.
	Like, and he just up and like leaves me there by myself.
	And I don't think that's indicative of somebody who's going to constantly say, oh, I provide and I protect.
	No, you walked.
	Wait, he didn't even meet you at the airport.
	No, no, he did.
	So you guys spent some time together, but then like some shit went down.
	We spent some time together.
	We had an argument that wasn't even really an argument.
	It was like me stating some things that weren't really, they were incongruent in the relationship, asking for some clarification on some things.
	He didn't want to have the conversation.
	Like he had other women, is what you're saying.
	No, no, that's not what the conversation was about.
	Pegging?
	Like, you wanted me to peg him?
	No, no.
	He was just not about it.
	No, it was, it was more like the direction that the relationship was heading in.
	And we're finally at this final destination of these plans.
	Can you tilt your mic down just a little bit?
	There you go.
	Go ahead.
	So it was more like we were now at the final destination.
	Like we're really going to live in this other country away from my family.
	Wait, you know how earlier you said maybe the girl was a basket case when she got taken out of her environment in that video?
	Not that I was a basket case, but I was like, I can't.
	I suddenly had this like realization.
	I knew I was going there and he knew I was going to have, I didn't have a freak out.
	I was just like, I can't drive because they drive on the opposite side of the road.
	I don't have a single friend here.
	I don't have a single family member here.
	It's not that I was complaining about that.
	I was like asking for some like reassurance.
	Like, can I get like a cuddle and a hug when we're sleeping?
	Can I get something that proves to me that you actually want me here?
	Can I have something?
	Can you give me something?
	And he's like, oh, you have a ring on your finger.
	I'm like, yeah, but I'm just not.
	You guys living together previously?
	So what would end up happening is this long distance.
	What would happen is we would spend like six weeks together for six weeks.
	And then we would maybe not see each other for like two weeks.
	I can do like a weekend with a girl.
	Yeah, we would maybe not see each other for like two to four weeks and then we would see each other for another month or two.
	So yeah, we were of the 18 or of the year and a half, we lived together for probably more than half of it, 10 months, I'd say, consistently.
	Okay.
	And I was also, so I'm somebody that prior to him, I had multiple jobs, multiple.
	Like I was somebody who was working, like I said earlier.
	It wasn't uncommon for me to pull 60 to 80 hour weeks.
	I also have a very high strung breed of dog.
	I have a Belgian malwa.
	She has to be walked in the morning at night.
	I have cats.
	I have my own place.
	I have a lot going on.
	So I'm somebody who was constantly like, go, And I'm also, I go to the gym.
	I work out.
	I cook basically all my own food just for like the health value.
	So I was always busy.
	Yeah.
	Demands I quit my jobs.
	Well, now all of a sudden I have all this time.
	And then he doesn't want me.
	I'm not allowed to go.
	I don't want to go out and club or anything, but I have all this time on my hands.
	He doesn't want to talk to me and occupy my time, which I get because he still has to work.
	And he has all.
	So it ended up being this like, not that I was intentionally being annoying, but the end of the night would come around and I would make dinner.
	And he wanted to like sit out and zone out, watch a show on his computer.
	And I wanted to talk and get like.
	Oof.
	Not like I didn't want to.
	I'm with him.
	I get it.
	Like, I do truly get it, but you've taken me away.
	Let me just watch The Walking Dead.
	I get it.
	See some zombies get fucked up.
	I do get it.
	But you.
	What do you want to talk about?
	You've taken me away.
	Like, you've taken me away from my family, my friends, and everything else.
	No, and you don't want to talk to me.
	Just come lay next to me.
	Let's watch some zombies get fucked up.
	It wasn't even like that.
	It wasn't even like that either.
	What do you mean by he took me to the bottom of the game?
	He took you away.
	I just want to see some songs.
	I made the decision to go and I was, but I still, I want like reassurance from my partner.
	Let me let these come through, but we can do $20.
	Chair one.
	Guys, $20 TTS.
	Get it in.
	Is this the last call?
	Also, he has great posture.
	Very nice.
	Oh.
	Beautiful.
	Isn't this Chair One Sim?
	You've got $40.
	Over 4,000 watching live and 1.7k likes.
	Wait.
	Question for you.
	If Chair One Sim pops a ball of champagne right now, will you go on a date with him?
	Whoa.
	I don't know how old he is.
	Okay, here, tell you what.
	To be fair, Chair One Sim.
	Give us some details.
	Give us details about you.
	How tall.
	What do you want?
	You want height?
	I just need to know age and age.
	Ethnicity?
	No.
	Penis size.
	Oh, no.
	Ball size.
	Age and.
	Age.
	Wait, this is scary.
	I don't know.
	You give an occupation.
	Age, occupation.
	Okay, yeah, age, occupation.
	Where do you live?
	And I would need your Instagram to know who your friends are.
	I don't know if it's confirmed in a little bit.
	Well, no, no, not here, but like if, like, yeah.
	Or what do you mean?
	Whatever.
	Oh, just so I could do my research for safety.
	I fucked my beard up today, boys.
	And this is ridiculous.
	I totally ruined it.
	It's fucking terrible.
	By the way, have I been doing the mm thing?
	I feel like I do the mm thing too a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Blackbird donated $20.
	Care two, she pulled an IV on him.
	So I get it long.
	She pulled an IV on him?
	What does that mean?
	That's going to be a new term.
	I'm going to have to pull an IV to pull an IV.
	Someone donated $19.99.
	My great, great-granddad fought for the Confederacy at the Battle of Lookout Mountain to have a first-generation Vietnamese explain to me why the Confederate flag is wrong.
	Ignorant woman.
	Ooh, spicy.
	Okay, $20 TTS.
	We got a few more things.
	Really quick, I'm going to read some of the rest of your notes, Patrice.
	So you said, excuse me, for the guy who you were engaged to, you said, I gave him, I gave up everything for him.
	You said, your job, your family, your life, your social media, anything he asked, I did at the drop of a hat.
	You're a very submissive girlfriend, but he constantly was showing me that I couldn't really totally relax around him.
	Something was always missing and off.
	I ignore all of that in an attempt to just want it to work and the potential of it working.
	We spent a year constantly traveling.
	Are you at liberty to say his profession or would you prefer you don't prefer?
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	So, like, he would ask you to like take, would you take down like revealing photos on your Instagram?
	I didn't.
	So you'll notice when I first reached out to you, I had a different Instagram with only like five posts and like 50 followers.
	That was at his request.
	And it was, it was like, he didn't even have to ask me.
	I knew how he felt about stuff like that.
	So like I was telling you earlier, we literally had gone on one date and there wasn't even any conversation about like exclusivity or anything, but I knew how he was from seeing his content and stuff.
	And it was gone.
	Anything revealing was gone.
	And then I still had the Instagram page, but with no posts on it.
	And then he was like, I want this.
	Like, I want the Instagram page down.
	No problem.
	It came down.
	I want the TikTok page down.
	No problem.
	Came down.
	I want you to quit your job.
	No problem.
	Done.
	Like literally anything he asked, done.
	But as the relationship progressed, because I've given an inch, now he wants a mile.
	And the request became absolutely like ridiculous.
	Like insane.
	So I'll give you an example of one.
	So I'm not somebody, I don't like milk.
	I don't want to drink milk.
	I don't want to drink the glass of milk.
	I don't like it.
	But he would like demand that I would drink a glass of raw milk.
	And I don't have anything against raw milk.
	I think it could be a superfood.
	Sure.
	I don't like milk.
	Like, I don't want to.
	And he would get mad and tell me that I was being argumentative and combative because I didn't want it.
	It just, I don't know.
	What's the reason?
	But did he want you to get your protein intake or something?
	It was just like a power move.
	Even my engagement ring was a power move, and I didn't realize it at the time.
	It took like, I realized it after.
	Not that I'm like, wasn't appreciative of it, but he told me to pick out an engagement ring, and I did.
	And I picked out a dump, like I picked out a diamond, and then he was like, no, not a diamond, like anything else.
	And he ended up getting me a ring that was like double the price of the ring I actually wanted just to like and I'm like, oh, that's so sweet.
	But just like to like, I don't know.
	I feel like even in that moment, it was a power move.
	Moving on to the next thing in your notes here, you said you were in a 4.5-year serious live-in relationship your entire adult life.
	You spent with this guy.
	He was 13 years older.
	Yeah.
	Every guy I've ever dated has been like 12 to 14 years older than me.
	You said he and his family own hotels and such.
	You walked in on him in the hotel pool area in the steam room, literally cheating on you with a 21-year-old front desk girl.
	And at the time, you were 23.
	Which is, I did.
	That did happen.
	So that, like, you'll see right now I'm two weeks post-breakup from across the country.
	And it sucks.
	Like, I'm not going to lie and be like, losing an engagement.
	And you're mourning the loss of what you thought was going to be.
	And I'm not going to sit here and pretend it doesn't suck and I'm not hurt because like I am.
	But that relationship, I was at this point in that breakup, I was still like in bed, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, couldn't like move, like just in physical agony.
	So I feel like you go through that one time and like never again, ever again.
	And then you said that this generation might be the most underfucked and most lonely.
	What does that mean?
	Underfucked?
	So I mean, I think that this generation has, first off, I mean, we can pivot to multiple different points in this.
	Dating is difficult now.
	Women all want to be with the top 1% of men and men all want to be with like objectively the top 1% of women.
	Men want the most attractive, most beautiful, youngest woman that they can get.
	And women won't even look at a man if they're not making, like we talked about earlier, like most of the women here, six figures, if they're not making, if they're not manly and masculine and all of these things.
	So nobody, in my opinion, like nobody's having sex.
	Women are posting revealing posts on the internet on their Instagrams or whatever, and maybe they have OnlyFans, but nobody is actually having sex.
	Not like they were 60 years ago, everybody was in a committed relationship and married by the time they were 21, regularly, constantly having sex.
	That's not the case today.
	You might have a hookup every now and then.
	Seems like that's kind of how most of the panel is.
	It's nothing consistent.
	People aren't having sex five, six times a week.
	Less men are having sex, but more women are.
	That's a good point, maybe.
	I think that was one of the questions.
	Yeah, that's probably the case.
	You look like you're reflecting.
	What the fuck?
	What?
	I missed my chance.
	Okay, there's a few more chats coming through here.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Care 4 and Brian.
	I used to have a stutter.
	In speech therapy, they teach you if you are using filler words or sounds, just take a pause.
	You won't stutter and will sound smarter.
	Yes, I was taught that too.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you, Michael.
	Uh-oh.
	Wait, I need to wait for chairs.
	Joe McDonald donated $20.
	I used to associate the Red Bill movement with men only until I realized it is for both genders because we all head to the same grinder.
	The 1% get to live life while the rest of us sleep until death.
	Khmer 594 donated $20.
	Chair 4, it's insane that you were around children.
	You lunatic.
	Chair 5, I have nothing.
	Care 6, you're learning.
	Care 7, non-existent.
	Care 8, I wish I had something bad to say about you.
	Chore XD donated $20.
	Care 2: You're pretty based-ish enough.
	If you want to meet a nice guy who wants to start a family with you, what do you think guys out there are going to think of your Instagram pictures?
	Well, I would take my Instagram pictures down tomorrow if I met a guy that was worthy of that.
	So.
	All right.
	Lululu donated $20.
	Chair 2, where are you from and what is your accent?
	I'm from America and I'm from New Jersey.
	Jersey.
	George.
	Let's see.
	We have another one.
	Thank you, Lulu.
	Khmer 590 donated $20.
	Are you ready for another roast?
	Care 1.
	No self-respecting man would wife you.
	You're a mistress at best.
	Chair 2: You think you're a good one, but you're fake.
	Chair 3, just the shovel.
	What the fuck?
	What does that mean?
	Randy donated $20.
	Flan, Garris, Josh, Aaron, Jonah, Bolton.
	I miss Yarl, but I'm dealing with some shit RN.
	Love you boys.
	I'm going more ghost than ever after this message.
	Sorry how it's been/slash is.
	Hopefully, you understand.
	Yo, Randy, hope you're doing okay, man.
	Yeah.
	Hope you're doing all right.
	I'm going more ghosts than ever after this message.
	Randy, I mean, shoot me a DM on Discord, man.
	Hope you're okay.
	Chair underscore one underscore simp donated twenty dollars.
	Twenty-six Jacksonville, Florida.
	Engineer.
	My house has a pool and I own a boat.
	I would love to watch the sunset on the waves with you.
	All right, what are you thinking?
	What do you think?
	Champagne pop?
	They can take you on a date.
	I don't know who he is, but a champagne pop and I will give you virtual kisses.
	He'll fly you out.
	He'll fly you out to Jacksonville.
	I am not taking a random ass flight.
	Oh, well, first you guys get to know each other a bit, then you'll fly out, then you can get pregnant.
	Oh, wait, what?
	Another whatever couple.
	Maybe that's hold on.
	Maybe a whole bit down the road.
	Alina, can you read these?
	Chair one has the least unrealistic minimum salary for a man we've seen in a while.
	I've never said that they have to have a minimum.
	No, but that but that's not the minimum.
	They could have 20k or a salary.
	I don't scoot your mic to the edge until your salary could be 20k, but if you are in the pursuit of hitting your goals, whether that be monetary or just like actually succeeding with whatever that is, like that's all I care about.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Read this one.
	What can I say?
	I'm a man of the people.
	Chair 2 is dangerously close to a pick-me girl.
	Hold on, dying.
	I love the way you read.
	Responses to that?
	They're saying you're a pick-me.
	I don't know what that means.
	What is that?
	That's tough.
	Ru Blackbird donated $20.
	Thank you, Blackbird.
	Chair 2.
	Speak for yourself.
	Lolai, stay getting sex.
	And wait, wait.
	Is Brian chair one, Sim?
	Uh, no.
	Got him.
	No, that is not me.
	Maybe it's you, Blackbird.
	Maybe you're the one who's you got multiple accounts.
	You got different accounts.
	Wow.
	How I'm wow, I'm hurt.
	I'm hurt, Blackbird.
	Okay.
	I'm too broken.
	I need to be fixed.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then, Steph, did you have some notes or something you wanted to hit on?
	Well, no, not really.
	You did have one disagreement, so I'll give you that one.
	Steph, your disagreement was interrupting when trying to answer.
	And I think in your pre-show notes, you said something along the lines of in terms of disagreement with the show.
	Or you don't agree how at times they speak over the guests to not let them finish what they're saying.
	I mean, it didn't happen in this podcast, but it's like any other podcast.
	It happens a bit.
	Sorry.
	No, she's talking about the host.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, I do that shit.
	It's hard when there's so many people.
	Yeah, well, I mean, as the host, too, you have to direct the conversation.
	So sometimes I have to interrupt people, cut people off, move things along.
	All right, we have a chat here from Pasty George.
	Okay, Pasty George.
	Pasty George donated $20.
	All right.
	I am a proud MGTOR member.
	We don't hate women, but are cautious around them because of the rise of false allegations.
	We never marry women who are influenced by feminism.
	Traditional women FTW.
	Yo, thank you, Pasty.
	Yeah, man.
	You gotta be careful, though, like saying that you're well, I mean, you're anonymous here, but like they deleted the MGTOW.
	MGTOW Reddit.
	A lot of those communities online just get nuked by all the platforms.
	Okay, we got a bunch of three coming in here.
	Submersible Honky donated $20.
	Go to Bed Bath and Beyond and buy a lamp.
	On your way out, scream I'm stealing this lamp.
	They'll stop you, but ultimately they can't do anything.
	It's your lamp.
	You can do whatever you want with it.
	Yo, submersible.
	Thank you, man.
	Kmerf 594 donated $20.
	Brian, you're the goat.
	Thank you.
	Much love from the Crucible.
	Let's see.
	Thank you.
	Oh, Murph, thank you so much, man.
	Thank you.
	Shout out to the Crucible crew.
	Thank you guys.
	Lol can't be me.
	I've got a type.
	She's got to make $95 a month.
	Have bad vision, bad arch in her back.
	Is that your, are you describing your girlfriend?
	Bad vision, bad arch in the back, $95 a month.
	All right.
	Alina, can you read this one?
	Just listening to y'all makes me tired of the dating game.
	Doge.
	Wow.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the super chat there.
	All right.
	I'll do.
	If there's any more that are coming through, feel free to get them in.
	I guess any final thoughts from any of the panelists before we wrap this up?
	Speak now forever.
	Hold your peace.
	Oh.
	Anything?
	Anything, huh?
	Ivy, you want to.
	Yeah, she's pretty mean.
	wants to go all night no i don't think i i talk a lot but i was like these comments are kind of me I wasn't expecting that.
	I didn't know what a roast was.
	i know it's like saying stuff like yeah but it's like yeah it's a roast but But it's, I don't know, they were like kind of out of pocket.
	Yeah, there's, yeah, that's kind of it.
	Wait, question, I guess, Bailey.
	Oh, my God.
	What were you thinking about right now?
	Anime or something?
	What?
	What?
	No.
	What were you thinking about right now?
	Nothing.
	Were you thinking about penis or penis?
	Yep, yes.
	Penis.
	How did you know?
	I just could tell.
	In the previous show, you wanted to talk a bit about the Asian dynamics.
	So, like, I want to ask what you think.
	She doesn't date Asian men.
	Oh, no.
	Busted.
	What do you think about that?
	Do you think she's racist?
	You're so racist, Bailey.
	I think, like, I have white parents.
	I think that, like, as a depends on, like, who is a racist?
	Do you actually not wear contacts?
	I don't.
	Ask Alina.
	No, she doesn't have color contacts.
	Oh, wow.
	My eyes are just this.
	I do think that there is like a not like if you watch Allie Wong, like, she's a comedian.
	She talks about it a bit.
	She said, oh, I just like to date white men because it feels like I'm colonizing them.
	You know, you can let me keep it.
	And then she prefers the black black guys.
	Let's see.
	Oh, boy.
	Chair one simp again.
	Here we go.
	Chair underscore one underscore simp donated $20.
	Many thanks to Brian for bringing chair one on the show to let her share her beauty.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	I gotta be honest.
	I don't think anybody has simped.
	I mean, it's an I don't think anybody has simped this much for a girl on the show.
	It's the rave girl energy.
	I think it's the rave girl.
	Chair one simp.
	Will you go with uh what if he brings you to the a rave or something for a first date?
	I go to too many raves, man.
	Oh man.
	Too many.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How about well, chair one, if you do a champagne pop, I will convince her to go on a date with you.
	I will not fly anywhere.
	It would have to be.
	He'll fly.
	He'll fly.
	It would have to be in LA.
	He'll come to LA.
	And it'd have to be on my terms of where I want to go to be safe.
	Fine.
	He'll take you to the he'll take you to Arby's.
	Arby's.
	What's your favorite?
	We're going to 71 and above, baby.
	I don't know what that is.
	Is that like an expensive restaurant?
	Ish.
	Yeah.
	Ish.
	The food isn't good, though.
	I will say, yummy.
	I think because I've been traveling around the world.
	Okay, period.
	Yeah.
	It's not a Michelin star restaurant.
	No, you paid for the experience of being hired.
	Yeah.
	Try that.
	Oh, how to find TTS.
	She's all about 71 and recent events.
	Welcome to the restaurant.
	Yeah.
	You're not from here.
	Messages attached to alert box logs.
	If TTS was triggered.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to find that, like, deleted or denied TTS.
	Wait, is there a way to, hold on, let me.
	Let me.
	Is there a way to see declined TTS?
	Let me see, boys.
	Oh, one sec.
	I don't want to screw this person over.
	I feel bad.
	Wait, where is it?
	Where is it?
	What's the term for it?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, well, maybe you get, oh, hold on.
	Another one?
	Oh, wait, no, this is it.
	Okay.
	I think we have to end the show there.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	There's another one coming through.
	Hats off.
	OJ, Mike.
	Whatever underscore, whenever donated $20.
	Hands off, OJ, and Mike.
	Chair eight is my Russian queen.
	Let's meet Dust Hoy Efsky and drink vodka by the fire.
	Oh, whatever, whenever.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	We have chair six here.
	Oh.
	Chair six donated twenty dollars.
	The torto got a point.
	Tort.
	Big dumpy brain and the fat boy on small square interrupts and hold up the show all the time on dumb shit stuff.
	Also, chair one is the final boss simp.
	Hold this cell.
	Final boss?
	I don't get it.
	Yo, chair six.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Do you want to respond to the torto allegations?
	I mean, I don't know, because that's not how I feel.
	Oh.
	What is torta?
	Yeah, what is torto?
	It's like the big sandwiches.
	It's like a sandwich.
	It's like a sandwich.
	Like a Mexican sandwich.
	Yeah.
	Isn't it nice to hear a disaspany?
	It's like, what am I going to do?
	Am I a tortoise?
	It's like what you call big people.
	Am I a torto?
	If you want to be a tortoise.
	No, I don't feel bad.
	Am I a torto?
	It's a barely face.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Oh, wait, Bailey.
	You ready for this?
	Are you ready, Bailey?
	Bailey, no.
	Are you ready?
	No.
	Are you ready?
	Still no.
	Are you ready?
	Bailey, are you being ready?
	And the other Bailey take my place.
	Bailey.
	Hold on.
	Okay, Bailey.
	Tell us what happened.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Tell us what happened.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Where on the doll?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Tell us what, Bailey.
	Tell us.
	Can you tell us what happened?
	When?
	You know, the whole situation.
	I don't think I know what you're talking about.
	The ex-boyfriend?
	Do I have an ex?
	The ex-boyfriend?
	Do I have an ex Alina?
	I can't answer this for you.
	I mean, I don't know what you're asking.
	Somebody in the chat asked me to ask.
	Okay, let's see the chat.
	I don't have it.
	Funny.
	No, I swear.
	They were like, you know, wanting to know.
	Then where is it?
	Where's the chat?
	Do you want to talk about it?
	I don't know what you're asking me.
	Well, there was some confusion last show.
	Of?
	About the situation.
	Specifically what?
	With the ex-boyfriend.
	Specifically, what?
	Well, because they were like, Brian, you put words into her mouth.
	That's what they told me.
	Okay.
	Words being.
	Like, I was putting words into your mouth.
	Specifically, as an example.
	Like, about the whole, like, the force thing.
	Okay.
	Like, I said that, and they were like, oh, you put words into her mouth.
	I mean, it's true.
	I mean, I don't know what you want to know about it.
	Do you want to talk about it?
	I don't really have much to talk about.
	But everyone in the comments, he's not a good person.
	Okay.
	What do you want to know?
	I don't know.
	Does anyone want to know about the story?
	I just want to know.
	Like, that night.
	What do you mean, that night?
	What happened?
	Like, do you want the details?
	Like, you want to.
	This is this.
	We just.
	That's what you want.
	The one night we had an argument.
	That was it.
	And then.
	No, the other thing.
	Oh, I mean, I don't even know.
	That was like three nights.
	Wait, there were three separate nights where he was just very pushy.
	I mean, I don't know what you want to know.
	But can you explain, like, what?
	I mean, I'm not going to go into detail about like him and the whole situation.
	Like, I'm not going to go into like detail about the physicality of it all.
	Like.
	Crickets, I'm just gonna be silent until you I don't know what you want me to say.
	Maybe ask him more time to say that.
	Yeah, like what do you want me to say?
	Give me like an actual question.
	I just.
	I know it's like a sensitive subject, but like I, as a guy, I don't know.
	And I feel like I'm not, I'm asking so I can understand.
	Is that fair?
	Understand what?
	I just want to question.
	Like, I want to understand, like, what happened.
	Dex.
	Did you?
	I don't even know.
	He just forced himself on me.
	Like, I don't really.
	I want to rehash the details.
	Yeah.
	Three separate occasions, but like.
	How did you end up with him on another occasion after the first?
	Like.
	Because first boyfriend didn't really have any other sort of judgment of what to expect.
	So, you know, I have nothing to go off of.
	So I'm like, okay, boyfriend can't be, people say all the time, can't be SA.
	So it's like you just accept it at some point and then you realize, oh, wait, no, you shouldn't accept it.
	Three times, though?
	Yeah.
	Why is that not a good number for you?
	If somebody forced themself on me one time and I truly woke up the next day, like, okay, but how are you and I the same person?
	How do we have the same experience?
	Regret and grape are not synonymous, but I can guarantee, like, why would you go see him again?
	Okay, but are you me?
	But why would you go see him again?
	But are you me?
	Because I could have a separate situation and then can't give you a question.
	If he forced himself on you and made you feel unsafe, why would you go see him again?
	And then I'm trying to understand.
	Okay, but can I talk?
	Yes, I'm trying to understand.
	Okay, so being me, not having had any other relationship with someone, growing up in like a town of like literally, like literally not many people.
	I grew up in the middle of central Pennsylvania.
	There's like no one.
	I grew up adopted.
	I grew up like where I was with white people who called me every other Asian kid's name.
	Like I didn't have the experience of being wanted.
	Does that explain it?
	So you woke up the next day, you felt like.
	Oh my God, it wasn't the next day.
	So you woke up at some point, had time to process what had happened, realize I didn't want that.
	I felt taken advantage of.
	I feel.
	No, it didn't hit me.
	It didn't actually hit me.
	But then you went and saw him again.
	And again.
	Well, it didn't hit me actually because I didn't think about it because I thought, oh, if you have a boyfriend, it's not SA.
	But you went and saw him again.
	You can think whatever you want.
	I mean, you thought you couldn't drive in Australia when you can.
	So, I mean, I think, hmm.
	Like, you said no?
	Yes.
	I did say no.
	I said, I got back from Australia and I basically said, I was like, I am tired.
	I just like moved all my stuff.
	This is not the time.
	And like, he didn't care.
	Like, for one, he was like, you were gone.
	Like, it's his right.
	And then made me feel bad about it.
	Wait, he said, he said.
	Not verbatim.
	I'm not going to put words in his mouth.
	But he basically, like, it was like that.
	And was like, like, I was gone.
	That was his right.
	And me not having experience, I was just like, I'm not going to like say it wasn't.
	And in the moment, it's very difficult.
	I know you might argue with me, but like, for me, it was very difficult.
	So, I mean, I'm not going to go into it.
	And yeah, that's it.
	Okay.
	But do you think it's fair?
	But I think I'm done.
	Okay.
	I just wanted, because I know like the conversation got a little heated last time.
	I was just hoping to get clarity.
	Because like, I know it's a super sensitive subject.
	And it's like really intense.
	And there's going to be like a lot of like feelings about it.
	Yes.
	And I'm just going to do it.
	I'm just like, and again, it's a really hard thing to talk about.
	I'm genuinely like, I've never heard like the female perspective on this in terms of like what happened.
	I mean, and I want to know what that and if you're not comfortable sharing, I 100% respect that.
	We don't have to go into the details, but I'm just, I guess I'm just seeking clarity and then like understanding because this is an opportunity to like, I guess and I don't want to do this again, so let's ask someone else.
	That's fine.
	No problem.
	I think she kind of like explained a bit of her background.
	I don't want to speak for you, but she did say she felt like she had nobody growing up.
	If like she decided to go back, it's like her point of view.
	Like we're not anybody to judge.
	And if you want to judge, like keep it private and stuff.
	But she did say that she felt like she had like no love growing up.
	That's enough for her to like felt like that was a reason for her to go back.
	And I don't want to say it's the same criteria, but it's like women who stay in abusive relationships, they have their own reasoning for it in a different background that like we're not one to speak on how they choose to stay in it.
	I could share something.
	I do want to say that your story is valid.
	It's your experience.
	Everyone has different experiences.
	Well, yeah, I just want you to feel like, you know, I do realize this situation is a lot for you to talk about.
	So I'm just letting you know, giving you some assurance that your story is valid despite the views, because it is a serious topic.
	I welcome your experience to talk about it.
	Yeah.
	The only reason why I just want to put in some input, just because you're asking.
	Go ahead.
	If you have any questions, you.
	Yeah.
	No, I'm asking.
	Do you have any questions?
	About the experience.
	I mean, I don't want to bubble up any sort of stuff.
	Oh, I'm totally good, dude.
	Oh, wait.
	Hold on.
	We have to do the makeup segment before we're back.
	All right, who's down to take off their makeup?
	Yeah.
	We'll do some over here.
	Alina, are you going to take yours off?
	All right.
	There's a couple chats coming through.
	We're going to do the Patrice video.
	We're going to do the Patrice video.
	Did we do that one last?
	Did we do the Patrice video?
	What the heck?
	Oh, it's a different Patrice.
	Had fun tonight.
	Thanks for the laughs and Ivy.
	You talk a lot, but I hope you learned a bit.
	I got a drive to Vegas in five hours.
	GF graduates from cosmetology school, so I got to do it.
	Night all.
	All right.
	Thank you, Blackbird.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	You're a legend.
	Thank you all for all the support on Twitch, by the way.
	Sorry for the delay on these guys.
	We are.
	Hyper spatial underscore gaming donated $20.
	Care two, the man you want exists, but is not chasing down women because often due to being damaged in the past by a woman.
	So how do you hope to find that man?
	It's not through social media.
	I've found more than one man like that.
	Like I've had three probably.
	I mean, it just doesn't.
	It doesn't work because it doesn't work, but it's not because I'm not finding these men.
	I'm finding the men that I want.
	It just, you know, sometimes things don't work for whatever reason, but it's not a lack of those men existing.
	Like, it's pretty easy to find men like that.
	You point and then you get.
	I want that person.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Share one that simply might be your best option at this point.
	And yeah.
	Brian, remember, life is like a sandwich.
	No matter which way you flip it, the bread always comes first.
	Who?
	Mike Jones.
	Mike Jones.
	8-0-0.
	How's that song gone?
	Joe McDonald donated $20.
	In my teen years, there was this girl who used to pick on me and tease me to no end until one day I got mad at her.
	She gave me a black eye that day, but the next day, she was really nice to me.
	Lol.
	Snapmore donated $20.
	People want to know if it's truly grape.
	Because it is a heavy accusation, and if he or anyone that knows you watch this or see clips of the accusations, it can ruin him if it's baseless.
	Push is valid.
	Do you want to respond to that or no?
	I'm good.
	Okay, yeah.
	All right.
	I think that's it for all the chats.
	I think that's it.
	I always feel like a British accent at the end of my life.
	British accent.
	Why are you making that face?
	You don't like it.
	I French friends.
	You don't like it.
	You don't like it.
	She likes it.
	Oh, she likes it very much.
	I like it.
	She likes it.
	Yeah.
	Raw.
	It's very Essex, buddy.
	Essex.
	Essay.
	Blinding.
	i don't know what the fuck uh what how about does anybody i can do southern or i don't know whatever southern Southern.
	Southern accent.
	Wait, can you do a French accent?
	You say you speak French, English accent.
	I love those.
	If I do that, all the women will be just madly in love with me.
	So I can't.
	I won't do the French accents.
	Anyways, okay, sorry.
	I feel like.
	Here, we gotta end the show on a little lighthearted thing, you know.
	Let's play the Patrice clip.
	Michael Jones donated $20.
	Long shows.
	Long show.
	Dears to helping all members find cries.
	Much love, and God bless.
	Remember, the saint is not the one who's a single person.
	I will find it.
	I would find the Patrice clip.
	It's videos.
	One sec, boys.
	One sec.
	Patrice.
	Patrice.
	Here it is.
	Oh my God.
	Take him forever.
	One sec, guys.
	Dropbox, copy, drop box link.
	We're sending this to private chat.
	Boom.
	That should be it.
	That should be it, sir.
	Yo, Chris, thank you for the gifted 10 whatever memberships.
	You are a legend, sir.
	Thank you, thank you.
	I got maybe I could do like an NPR voice.
	Hope you guys are having a great night.
	Well, you're not so cringe.
	Never mind.
	Big labia matter.
	Big labia matter.
	Any big labia?
	I was gonna say, hey, bro.
	Wait, did you take the makeup off?
	What the fuck, Alina?
	Take your money.
	No, I was just gonna say that I agreed that big labia matter.
	Oh, your boyfriend is a lucky man.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, chat.
	Do you think Alina should be a new helmet?
	Do you want to be a helmet girl for the whatever podcast?
	I don't live in California.
	You'd have to move.
	I might have to.
	Oh, there you go.
	We're looking for somebody new.
	What's a helmet girl?
	You sit in the background and wear.
	We didn't have one today, but you wear a helmet.
	Like a real white.
	And you're an assistant, basically.
	I mean, you really don't do much.
	You help out with a bit of water.
	That's pretty much it.
	And then you just sit in the background.
	It's like aesthetics.
	Yeah, I guess you could say.
	I guess you could say, do we have the Patrice clip?
	Yeah.
	All right, pull that boy up.
	All right, hide that.
	I'm so happy.
	All right, watch this.
	Watch this.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	The doctor was like, We have to remove your pussy right away or you're gonna die.
	How would you keep your man past?
	You get a two-month guilty, I can't leave the bitch right away because she just lost a pussy in the train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that if you didn't have a vagina?
	Pause it I don't know He's gonna be a little bit more.
	Were you watching?
	I'm not gonna lie, it's really late, and I was thinking about all this stuff I have to do.
	I'm so sorry.
	Okay.
	You get in a terrible train accident.
	Terrible train accident.
	Lose the pussy.
	You're in a relationship.
	You get a three-month, he can't break up with you.
	What do you do to keep your man beyond that?
	Oh, because he can't get pussy.
	Because your pussy's gone.
	It was a terrible train accident.
	Choo-choo, motherfucker.
	Well, if he's like, if he's sexually active and he needs the sex, and like I'll try to please him, like, give him massage, you know, like blow drops, like, I'll just go.
	A blowy.
	If he needs the sex, if he needs it, but if he doesn't, like, I'll try to find other ways.
	A blowy?
	Okay, what about you?
	I feel like there's at least three answers, but I don't really, like, I don't know.
	Give the answers.
	Give the answers.
	Go ahead.
	Quick.
	Oral, anal, and threesomes.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Mouth.
	Okay.
	Ivy.
	I think you can just let him sleep with other women.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Bailey.
	We'll answer when it comes to that.
	Wait, what?
	Well, no, you got to answer the question.
	No, it hasn't come to it.
	It's a hypothetical.
	Wait, what?
	What?
	It's a hypothetical situation.
	So I'm still thinking, because it hasn't happened yet.
	Next.
	Wait, a train accident hasn't happened yet?
	To me, specifically.
	Yeah, it's a hypothetical.
	Yes, so hypothetically, I don't know yet because I'm not in that situation.
	But what would you do if you put yourself in the situation of getting hit by a train?
	No, you just lose your pussy and you got to keep your man.
	What would you do to keep him?
	Do I want to keep him?
	Yes.
	Yes, you do.
	You do.
	I'm not sure about that.
	Yeah.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Steph?
	Um, head, hand job, and anal.
	Oh, all right.
	Wow, anal's good.
	Alina?
	I do anything he says.
	He would never hear the word no come out of my mouth.
	Wait, say that.
	Hold on.
	That was pretty good.
	Say that one more time.
	The whole thing?
	Yeah, the whole thing.
	I'd do anything he says.
	He would never hear the word no.
	Play the rest.
	I'll probably not do that.
	Play the rest.
	You guys got God.
	Wow.
	Nothing?
	You can talk.
	You can talk.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole.
	Okay.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy bean the whole show, right?
	But I give women the opportunity to say, I'm going to make myself worth more.
	But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
	But, you know, I'm...
	I'm supposed to teach you special because you're just a bunch of holes to yourself.
	You take it off?
	Take it off?
	Always said, learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool.
	Tell better stories.
	Get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Yes.
	Welcome.
	Everything.
	Everything.
	Here, Steph, hold yours up.
	Hold your little makeup wipe off.
	Wow.
	Period.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	All right.
	They're going to do it.
	Can I kill one?
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Chair underscore one underscore simp donated $20.
	Chair one would look cute in a helmet.
	Chair one, we could build a life together.
	You're adorable.
	You look beautiful even without makeup.
	You're perfect.
	Rock and roll.
	All right, we're going to do a shout out on Twitch.
	Pull up Twitch really quick, guys.
	Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	If you have on twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in a prime sub before we wrap up the show.
	I'm going to send, oh, a thousand subscribers.
	Guys, get us to 98,000.
	We're like 30 away.
	Get us to 98,000 before the rest of the show.
	I know there's 30 of you who aren't following thousand viewers still.
	Just get us a get us 98,000.
	Get us to the threshold.
	Check if you have a Prime sub available.
	Who are we going to raid on Twitch?
	Damn, not really anybody interesting.
	I'll do fucking WoGramma again.
	You can, let's see.
	And then I'll just say GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	Oh, Blackbird here.
	Hold on.
	Boom.
	Blackbird.
	Big 50 gifted.
	Thank you so much, man.
	You are a gentleman and a scholar.
	Thank you so much, dude.
	Fucking legend tonight, man.
	Absolute legend.
	Thank you so much, Blackbird.
	Really appreciate it.
	So, like I said, thank you, everybody, for tuning in.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Couldn't do it without you guys.
	We don't get any sponsorships or anything like that.
	So really appreciate it.
	We'll be live again Sunday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Guys, got some really good panels coming up.
	I know I say that almost every week, but next week should be.
	Oh, we got like a couple return guests that are going to be very interesting next week, Sunday.
	Be sure to check that out.
	And let's see if there's.
	Hold on.
	We have this: Joe McDonald donated $20.
	To everyone, what would you do if modern conveniences, technology, and the internet suddenly ceased to exist?
	To the women, would you depend on men or other women or both to survive?
	Whoa, that's a heavy question for the end of the show, man.
	Not heavy, but it's like.
	They made a movie about this.
	It was on Netflix about how a bunch of people got shamed on an island, and then the only one that could help everyone was like the toilet cleaner.
	And it was a woman.
	So I think women are very, you know, of course.
	Yeah.
	Does the best.
	Would you depend on men or other women to wait, ladies?
	Would you rather.
	I can't even think.
	It's silly.
	Here.
	Kmer 594 donated $20.
	Michael Knowles is a simp Hold up your hold it up to the camera the makeup line Did you do yours?
	Hold yours up.
	Oh, whoa.
	Why had red lips?
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	There it is.
	Chair one, are you still a simp for me?
	Or not, chair one.
	Chair one simp.
	Are you supposed to still for me?
	Maybe he's simps more now.
	He's like, wow.
	Natural beauty.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That's the end of the show, guys.
	Like the video, please.
	We're going to do the raid to WoGramma if you want to get her.
	Oh.
	What is she?
	Wait, what is she doing?
	Dolman, thank you, Ben.
	Thank you for the bits.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	I don't know.
	Never mind on that.
	What are we gonna do?
	Oh, we're gonna raid Guzu.
	It's Guzu G-U-Z-U.
	We're gonna raid him.
	Oh, it's he's not even.
	His stream hasn't even started yet.
	Fuck.
	Okay.
	We're gonna raid.
	Fuck.
	We're gonna raid Grayson.
	We are raiding Grayson.
	By the way, I'm a variety streamer.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	I hope you, oh, little PVP there.
	And other times I play World of Warcraft Classic Hard Cold.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	We're raiding Grayson.
	He's playing World of Warcraft Classic Anniversary Realms.
	Tell him to dance.
	Tell him to slash dance.
	Tell him to slash dance in the chat.
	Thank you guys on Twitch.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	All right.
	That's being said.
	I definitely should.
	I wish I had more so like a combat spec.
	I just don't have it.
	The combat spec definitely is going to be so much better.
	PvE damage for sure.
	I mean, just the hit, dude.
	Holy shit, boys.
	We are getting fucking posted out the assholy.
	Yo, whatever.
	Thank you very much for the raid.
	I appreciate it.
	Yo, thank you.
	What up, homies?
	Hello?
	Do slash dance.
	Dance, big boy.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you for that, guys.
	Oh, fuck.
	What's like a nice dance song, dude?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, now we're, okay, never mind.
	You can X out of that.
	All right.
	Let me just make sure.
	Oh, we just have this.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we're all good.
	Okay, guys.
	07's in.
	Oh, I think.
	Yeah, 07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.

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