Whatever Podcast - BANGS RETURNS?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES Show?! 2 VlRGlNS Age 25/27?! Andrew Wilson!

Dec. 9, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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BANGS RETURNS?! Rachel Wilson CRASHES Show?! 2 VlRGlNS Age 25/27?! Andrew Wilson! | Dating Talk #219

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	Pull it up, Damien.
	Just hold on.
	Don't.
	Okay, reconnect.
	Don't pull it up yet.
	One sec, boys.
	One sec.
	All right, hit enter.
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	Scuffed.
	One sec boys I want okay law if you're playing this game right now All right.
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	Switch the cam switch the thing.
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	To left.
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	Open up a trade window with me.
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	The freaking layering is bullshit, though.
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	Maybe.
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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	anai 22 years old i'm from i want to share my location but i'm from socal santa barbara county There you go.
	And occupation, I don't really do anything.
	You don't do anything?
	You're a neat?
	What do you mean?
	A neat.
	Yeah.
	She's a neat.
	Basically, if that's what you do, what a neat is?
	No, but.
	It's an acronym for not in employment, education, or training.
	Oh, I just finished school.
	I'm taking a little break, but I'm going to be going back in January.
	Going back in January, okay.
	And you do OnlyFans?
	Yeah.
	So I guess I'm doing stuff, but I'm taking a little break right now.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	All right.
	And you're going to school where?
	SBCC.
	Studying what?
	I'm going back for real estate, for real estate classes.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Elsie.
	I'm 18.
	I'm from Los Angeles, but I currently go to UCSB and I work with kids.
	All right.
	What are you studying at UCSB?
	I'm a pre-com major.
	Pre-com.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Michelle.
	I'm 25.
	I'm from Orange County, California, and I am a recruiter.
	All right.
	Any school?
	Yes, I graduated in Cal State Fullerton.
	You got a bachelor's degree?
	Yeah.
	In what?
	Communication.
	In comm.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Carissa.
	I'm 20 years old.
	I go to Santa Barbara City College and I also work with kids with Elsie.
	All right.
	And what are you studying?
	I'm doing theater right now.
	Theater?
	Okay, you want to be an actress?
	Yeah.
	Are you like, because some people in theater, they're behind the scenes, you do behind-the-scenes stuff or like crew?
	Yeah, I just do whatever right now.
	I'm just learning a lot right now.
	Okay, so you, but you want to act, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Derkavia.
	I'm 23 years old and I'm a babysitter.
	Wait, 23?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	School?
	Any school?
	No, no school.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Chloe.
	I'm 27.
	I'm also from Orange County as well.
	I'm currently accounting, just not in tax.
	All right.
	Schooling?
	Cal State Fullerton.
	All right.
	Bachelor's in accounting.
	There you go.
	Good stuff.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	My name is Ashley.
	I'm 24, 25 in a month, but I currently don't go to school.
	And I'm a barista and a lash technician.
	Any school whatsoever?
	Yeah, I went to a community college for like two years.
	Did you get your associates or?
	No, I was just shy of my associates.
	What were you?
	I was.
	I wanted to be, oh my gosh, a radiologist, but I just stopped going.
	Okay.
	Eric?
	What's a lash technician?
	I do lash extensions.
	Like, where you put individual lashes on other lashes for girls.
	Is that very technical?
	Yeah, they're literally artists, like actual artists.
	It takes a lot of skill and a lot of practice.
	I get my lashes done.
	Yeah.
	You need a lot of skill for that.
	Go ahead.
	Eric.
	What's going on, Jean?
	Eric, aka Illa, aka Ilosavku Radio, 39 by way of Jersey, by way of North Carolina, construction management.
	Peace.
	All right.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible, a popular entertainment channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, a political satirist.
	I occasionally enjoy doing debates and conversations, and I do them all over the world via video like this or in person.
	And I'm glad everybody's here tonight.
	I'm looking forward to this conversation.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Going.
	Said whether or not it's only three shows left, better not happen.
	We need whatever.
	What the hell?
	What the hell?
	Wait, what?
	Hold on.
	It's not popping up on my end.
	We need.
	How did you do that, bro?
	Wait, what?
	Okay.
	Oh, the default voice.
	Can you boost the audio all the way?
	The default voice is Trump.
	That was not my choice.
	The viewers voted for it.
	Bangs learned long ago that the amount of time people can tolerate her is directly proportional to the amount of cleavage visible.
	Still would.
	Ladies, what years were W1/WW12?
	What the fuck, Trump?
	The TTS monster needs a bit of work, but do you want to respond, Bangs?
	I don't know if it means.
	Wait, do they mean that I was showing too much cleavage before or what?
	I don't know if that's what that meant.
	I'm really confused by the question.
	I'm confused too.
	It was very confusing.
	Okay.
	What years were World War I, World War II?
	Going around the table?
	No idea.
	I remember learning it in school, but I don't remember now.
	Okay.
	It's a good thing I'm a pre-communications major because I'm not good with history.
	Let's just say that.
	Sure.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	No, I not even.
	How about here?
	Just take a guess.
	Take a guess.
	Okay.
	Can I take a guess?
	Yes.
	For World War I and then World War II.
	You're going to clown on me, but around maybe the 1920s, maybe?
	Okay.
	For World War II.
	World War II.
	World War II.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I'm not sure about World War II.
	What would you think about?
	The early 1900s.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	My AP teachers would be so disappointed in me.
	So disappointed.
	So disappointed.
	And that was just like last year, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Take a guess.
	Take a wild guess.
	It's going to be off.
	That's fine.
	It's okay if it's wrong.
	Maybe like, what'd you say?
	The 1920s, World War II, and early 1900s.
	1860s.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Was that for World War I?
	Sure.
	And then World War II?
	1970?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm just going to play it safe, 1950 and 1980.
	So World War II, 1950, and then 1980.
	I don't know.
	1980.
	World War II.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, sure.
	Just a guess.
	Go ahead.
	I'll just say the same as her, 1920s?
	I don't know.
	For World War I and then World War II?
	Welcome to the historical podcast, historical dating podcast.
	1940s?
	Because it's something to do with the prohibition, right?
	Then prohibition was during the 1920s, so it has to.
	It has nothing to do with it, it does, because I remember I did a whole skit on this on my skit?
	Yeah, I did a skit.
	The U.S. education skits.
	Yes, I did.
	She did a skit on prohibition.
	Yes, I did.
	Okay, that's cool.
	You know, look, dating was fire.
	Like it was, it was, it was lit in the World War I era, you know, uh, did you, what about you, Darkavia?
	Uh.
	I say World War II, around like 1920.
	Yeah, World War I.
	And then probably like 1890 or something like that.
	I don't freaking know.
	Okay.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, I'm too.
	It's a dating show, not history.
	All right.
	What do you think?
	And we all agree there is not one female above a 4.5 minutes five at this table.
	Oh, what the?
	Yo, it's triggering the super chats.
	I don't know why.
	That's scuffed.
	That should not be.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	I think it's World War I is 1920.
	World War II is 1945.
	Maybe.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'd have to go with her.
	It's around the 1920s was World War I, and around the 1940s-somethings was World War II.
	Sweet.
	All right, going around the table once more.
	I'm just got to figure out what's going on with the fuck TTS monster.
	Wait, can we figure out the answers?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	World War I was 1914 to 1918.
	World War II, 1939, 1945.
	Relationship status.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	I am single.
	I've been single since I've for three years now.
	The longest relationship I have been in was maybe a year, a year and a half.
	Okay, got it.
	Sorry, and you've been single for how long again?
	Sorry?
	Three years, going on four years, I think.
	Okay.
	Around there, maybe three and a half.
	Sure.
	All right, what about you?
	I'm currently single.
	The longest relationship I've been in was a little under a year, and then I've been single for around two years.
	And you said just about a year for your longest relationship?
	Yeah.
	I see, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	They're eating our dots.
	Bro, eating our cats.
	It's not supposed to trigger off the freaking YouTube.
	Hold on.
	One sec, guys.
	Let me get this friggin' fixed.
	I don't know why it's doing that.
	It should be disabled.
	Here.
	The only thing I can do, I don't know if this is going to fix it.
	How my year ended.
	Aya.
	Grandma L, now whatever leaving.
	Good news.
	Trump is president.
	Ayya.
	That's not so.
	You guys are abusing the busted system.
	All right.
	Well, I don't know if that's.
	We'll see if that fixes it.
	I don't know.
	If it doesn't, then we got to disable the TTS monster.
	Relationship status?
	I'm single and I've been single my whole life.
	Okay.
	So never had a boyfriend?
	No.
	What's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
	Maybe like a month.
	Okay.
	But I don't really date often.
	I'm okay being single.
	So the longest consecutive period you said was one month.
	Just like getting to know the person.
	In Springfield.
	Eating the dogs and cats.
	Bro.
	Oh my dude.
	Okay.
	We got to decide.
	I don't know why.
	Alert TTS monster.
	Unfortunately, totally scuffed.
	Should not be triggering the super chats.
	That's what's going on.
	Ridiculous.
	Yeah, you got to go into.
	Okay, here, Damien.
	Go to in the sources on all the sources.
	So go to TTS.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, chat.
	We got to get rid of TTS monster.
	TTS Monster, hide it, I think.
	That'll do it.
	Okay, go to left.
	Hide it in left, right, center zoom.
	Windows, videos.
	Yeah, go to window tab.
	pull up world of warcraft 2 let's see if anybody wants to this is totally scuffed on the all right Wait.
	Hey!
	the hell?
	Um, hey, is that, wait, Damien, click on that guy, monkey?
	W Discord.
	Bro!
	Hey, click on monkey in the game.
	Click it.
	No, hey, right there in front of you, bro.
	No, that's fucking not.
	Monkey, right there, bro.
	Click on, hey, trade with him.
	That guy wants to give me gold.
	Right-click on his portrait.
	Oh, never mind.
	He's just taking this.
	Fuck that guy.
	Forget it.
	Fuck that guy, bro.
	What the fuck, dude?
	Here, wait.
	Okay, go to Windows and Videos.
	And hide TTS monster.
	Sorry, guys.
	We're totally scuffed.
	Window tab?
	Oh, it's hot.
	Okay.
	I don't know if that's going to fix it.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Sorry, guys.
	James is a fat monster like Rosie Orbano.
	Hey!
	Hide that shit.
	What the fuck?
	My sprinkler goes like DSCSDS ESESESDS.
	What is happening?
	I got that.
	Dude.
	You guys are crazy, man.
	Here, just mute the audio for a sec.
	Hold on.
	I don't even know how to deal with this.
	I don't know what to do, boys.
	Pause cue?
	Will that.
	Wait.
	Maybe.
	Is that could that do it?
	You allowed the poorest to speak.
	This is huge.
	Oh, fuck.
	Okay.
	What the hell, man?
	RC was slandering you again, Brixon.
	Bro.
	What the fuck?
	Don't worry, guys.
	We're going to get this solved in just a moment.
	Just a couple technical issues.
	What in the frick is happening?
	I have no idea, boys.
	Love you, B. You do a great job.
	By the way, Transwomen.
	Hey!
	Wait.
	I don't even know.
	I don't know what to do, boys.
	I don't even know what to do.
	Hold on.
	I need like a technical difficulty.
	Okay, Illosophical.
	Ask a question or some shit.
	How was y'all weekend, ladies?
	You had to do anything exciting?
	You know what I mean?
	Too short.
	Huh?
	What's too short?
	The weekend.
	Oh, worry, worry, worry.
	What happened?
	What you was doing?
	I went to the mall yesterday.
	Which mall?
	The one in Santa Barbara.
	I don't know.
	I don't know which one.
	Paso Nuevo?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	So y'all from the local area, all y'all?
	Yeah.
	I am.
	I'm not.
	I'm staying in.
	Well, I don't want to see it, but I'm not too far from here.
	I can answer that.
	I'm from the valley.
	Okay.
	So, 45 minutes away, the valley, but Saninez Valley.
	Oh, okay.
	There's lots of wine tasting everywhere.
	There's wineries everywhere you should go.
	You're from where?
	Seninez Valley.
	Salinas?
	No.
	Seninez, sorry.
	Yeah.
	It's like only a few minutes away from here.
	No hooka lounges around here and nothing like that.
	Just wineries and tasteries.
	Yeah, if I mean, if I don't want to drive far, it's just like wineries, breweries, like all of that.
	Gotcha, gotcha.
	We're surrounded by ocean, so I think you should go to the beach.
	Yeah, go to the beach, honestly.
	Go to the pier.
	No, go to the pier.
	Yeah, just for a sunset.
	Just have like a cute little picnic or something.
	Oh, I've never been there.
	That's so pretty.
	Wait, where is it?
	You have to go through like Monty Dino to get through there.
	I don't know how to explain.
	Okay.
	Yeah, just go wine tape.
	I don't know where you're.
	Are you more north or south from here?
	Yeah, near.
	What's called to Panera?
	Panera?
	Wait, what?
	How do you pronounce it?
	Panera.
	Oh, Cart.
	Oh, there's this place.
	I don't want to give like free promo or anything, but there's this really cute restaurant by the beach that you should go to.
	It starts with a P, but I won't give promo.
	It's free clout down here.
	It's called the Keenan's Plaza.
	No.
	Wow.
	No, it's right by the beach.
	They have the cutest sunsets you can get your food and go to the beach.
	It has the cutest sunsets.
	It's a cute sunset.
	I don't know what that means.
	A cute sunset?
	A cute sunset.
	What does that even mean?
	I don't know how to explain it to you.
	You got to figure it out yourself.
	A cute sunset.
	I don't know.
	Hide that shit, bro.
	Did you figure it out?
	Hopefully.
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Those already, just go ahead.
	All right.
	So, okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	I think it should be.
	Let me let me.
	I don't know if it's going to work.
	I'm going to have to hide.
	I'm going to have to remove it from the description.
	Apologize for the technical difficulties there, trying something new.
	All right.
	So, you've been single your whole life.
	Yes.
	The longest period of time you've dated somebody, dated somebody, is one month.
	Dating as in like going out on dates or like officially locking in.
	Uh, well, it sounds like you haven't had an official lock-in, is that correct?
	Yeah, and then so but I'm assuming you have like you've been on first dates, right?
	Yes, okay, and maybe like when you were in college, maybe there's a party scene, you'd have like sneaky links, no, no sneaky links, no, friends with the benefits, no F Buddy, no my best friend in college was alcohol, I just drank, I didn't do anything with guys.
	Your best friend in college was alcohol, was it just college?
	It extended beyond college.
	I think like when I have you been friends with alcohol, alcohol, and what's your drink of choice?
	Um, I think when I turned 25, like this year, I started to slow down on the drinking, but I think up till 24, I was pretty Korean, so they drink pretty heavy.
	Yeah, um, how much were you drinking per week?
	Uh, like per day, not per day, not per day, yeah.
	Are you a solo drinker?
	Like wine, alcohol.
	Like you would just drink solo, like a whole bottle?
	There were times, yeah, when I was like 22, 23.
	You drink straight from the bottle or you pour it into a glass?
	That's not classy wine glass.
	Okay, I don't know.
	Some people drink wine out of a bottle.
	No, that's like a little depressing.
	That's depressing.
	Okay, you're not there yet.
	No, not yet.
	You're not there.
	I don't want to get there.
	But you had a long-term monogamous relationship with alcohol.
	I mean, sure, if you want to put it that way.
	Right.
	So no sneaky links.
	No.
	So were you celibate the entire celibate?
	Yeah.
	During college?
	Yeah.
	How long have you been celibate for right now?
	The whole time.
	What do you mean the whole time?
	Like, I haven't slept with anyone.
	Oh, you're a virgin?
	Yeah.
	Oh, cool.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	But you drink heavily?
	Not anymore.
	You used to.
	And you go out to bars and clubs?
	Yeah.
	I like partying.
	I just don't do anything with guys.
	I enjoy my time with my friends.
	But you like guys, right?
	Yes.
	You just haven't found one that you feel is like.
	Yeah, I just don't want to get attached.
	Do you have a type?
	Oxford study.
	Okay.
	Just asking.
	I like confident men.
	I don't know.
	I don't really have a type.
	I just have to feel it.
	You got to feel it.
	Yeah.
	Have you felt it?
	Ever?
	Because I mean, you haven't.
	There's one guy, I guess, you saw for a month, but yes, that was recent, but yeah.
	Can we move on?
	Well, so I'm just trying to get a bit of an understanding of kind of the relationship history.
	But so, I mean, have you had a first kiss?
	Yeah.
	Kiss, yes.
	Okay, fair enough.
	And single whole life.
	Okay.
	And have there been guys that have they been interested in you?
	You just weren't interested in them?
	Yes.
	I feel like when I was in college, I was a little bit too busy trying to find a job.
	Yeah.
	Drinking in the beginning, like first two years, and then later on, it was more so like locking in and finding a job.
	I wasn't really prioritizing dating.
	But I mean, you were when you were going out to parties, you said you went to UC Fullerton?
	Cal State, Florida.
	Cal State Fullerton.
	I don't think there's a UC.
	I was thinking of UC Irvine.
	Cal State Fullerton, is there like a Greek life there?
	I yes, but I wasn't in Greek life.
	No sorority or anything?
	No.
	When I was in like my first college, because I transferred because I switched my major, I was in a professional fraternity, but I wasn't in a sorority.
	Okay.
	And um hmm this is unique.
	Um how often would you go out to parties though?
	Like is it was it a party school like in college?
	Yes, CSU.
	My first school I went to, I don't want to drop the name, it's a school, it's a private school in Northern California.
	I partied every week.
	It's in the middle of nowhere, so people don't have much to do there except party.
	But when I was in Cal State Fullerton, I didn't party.
	I was just studying to get out of there and graduate.
	Got it.
	But how often would you say in the past year, like how frequently do you go out to bars or nightclubs?
	Like what, like when?
	Like when I was in CSUF?
	Sure.
	Or just.
	I mean, I felt like I went out every weekend, like up till this year.
	I've been slowing down.
	And are you religious?
	Are you waiting until marriage or no?
	I just don't want to get attached because I feel like I'm going to get attached to a guy if I sleep with him.
	And I don't want to get attached and like put my energy into someone who doesn't like me.
	That's all.
	It's not a religious thing.
	Can I ask something?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Do you want to get married?
	Yes, but I want to get married late, like in my 30s.
	Okay.
	And but you don't want to.
	Why don't you want to get attached?
	Because I'm going to get hurt and I would have to invest my energy into someone who doesn't like me.
	I don't want to do that.
	Okay.
	And but you want to get attached eventually, right?
	Like to the right guy?
	Wouldn't you want to attack?
	Yeah, to the right person, to the right person.
	All right, sure.
	Maybe we'll come back to that a little bit, but what about you?
	Wait, what was the question again?
	Sorry.
	Relationship status?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for two months now.
	Okay.
	I just got out of an almost two-year relationship, and that has been my longest relationship.
	All right.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	Why?
	Just tired of his mistakes, I guess, over his mistakes.
	His mistakes.
	What did he do?
	Just, you know, having a bunch of.
	Huh?
	I don't know.
	Just pictures in his phone, specific pictures.
	Pictures in his phone?
	Okay.
	Texting other girls.
	So he's cheating on you.
	I guess micro cheating.
	I don't know.
	Micro cheating.
	Micro cheating.
	I wouldn't say like physically cheated, but yeah.
	I don't say too much.
	All right.
	Darkavia, what about you?
	What was the question?
	Relationship status.
	Hello?
	Single.
	I've been my longest.
	I have two really long relationships.
	First one was five years.
	Second one was three years.
	But yeah, that was the longest too.
	I've only been in two relationships.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been single all my life, too.
	All right.
	And what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
	For me personally, it was three months.
	For that one, I really got to know a guy.
	He was super nice, a gentleman, but it's just our kind of personal beliefs didn't align.
	Yeah, how so?
	Just there's things in life in terms of like career and everything that I believe in like a two-income household, among other things.
	So it just didn't align.
	So he believed in a he wanted you to like be a stay-at-home.
	Yeah, which is fine.
	I think that's great if a woman wants to do that.
	That's how long ago was this last year.
	It was a year ago.
	Okay.
	And was he, how old was he?
	He was the same age as me.
	26 at that time.
	And he was desirous of basically a one-income household, is my understanding.
	Yeah.
	Did he have the financial means to, despite your unwillingness to be in that sort of arrangement, did he have the means to no.
	At that time, no.
	Okay, but he wanted it for the future, right?
	Yes.
	And essentially, he probably, my understanding would be he wanted you to have kids and just stay home and take care of the kids.
	Yeah.
	Take care of the household.
	And you don't want to do that.
	You want to pursue a career?
	Is that fair to say?
	Yes.
	But also because in the California economy, at least, I don't think we can afford life and kids.
	Yeah.
	Especially if I wanted more than one, like I would, we would be broke.
	Well, if he, let's say you met a guy who was, let's say he made a million dollars a year, I'm sure even in the most expensive part of California, that would enable you to be a single-income household.
	Would that be a bit more?
	I think that's a different scenario.
	So yes, I'd discuss it with him.
	But with my experience of dating and the people that I've dated, so far, I think it has to be a double-income household.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Yeah, I just want to ask you a question.
	Since that's your perspective, how you feel about who takes upon the responsibility to the home?
	Do you feel like it should be split 70-30?
	Like, how would you approach that?
	I think it shouldn't be a percentage.
	It should be more consideration for the other person.
	Like, for example, like, I have my busy seasons at work.
	Like, if I'm not home until 10 p.m. because I'm working, I don't want to go home and cook dinner because, first of all, he's probably already asleep.
	So, like, that's obviously not going to happen.
	I would really appreciate it if he did something for me versus if he's going through something.
	I'll obviously be taking more of the workload, more of the chores, everything.
	But what about like the bills of the home?
	Like, rent?
	Like, how do you distribute it?
	I'm just 50-50 for that.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then you were seeing this guy for three months.
	So are you also a virgin like your friend?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And is this, are you waiting until marriage or what's going on with that?
	I just don't feel comfortable with it.
	So I think with the right person, it'll be comfortable.
	But until then, let's just say I'm waiting until marriage.
	Waiting until marriage.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	And although it sounds like if you were to meet the right guy and you guys aligned in terms of your values and you were comfortable with him, you would have sex prior to marriage?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So it's not like, it's not for religious reasons.
	Some people are Christian or whatever.
	They would want to wait.
	Yeah.
	I think it's nice to have a timeline just for that like goal setting, so to speak.
	But I think sexual compatibility, finding that out before marriage is very important because divorce is such a pain in the ass.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, that's fine.
	Do you think though, do you think it's going to be difficult to find a guy who's willing to wait that long?
	Because I mean, typically, my impression is when it comes to men who are like willing to wait, they're typically going to lean a bit more traditional, a bit more conservative, which might be a conflict.
	Is it safe to say you're a bit more progressive, a bit more liberal?
	Yes.
	And you're more desirous of pursuing your career.
	Do you think that that's going to introduce potential difficulties for you?
	I think yes, which is totally fine.
	It just means that person isn't for me.
	Because I feel like probably more progressive liberal men who are open to the 50-50 thing are probably not going to be on board with the like, oh, let's wait until marriage thing.
	Good for them.
	Not for me, but good for them.
	Fair enough.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Oh, you have something?
	Real quick.
	I think that it'll be strange for a man to not respect a woman who's actually a virgin.
	Because it's like if a woman is a virgin, I think a lot of times when cats don't want to wait, it's because they feel like she's been with other men.
	But if she's actually a virgin in today's time, I think a reasonable man should respect that because she's actually the virgin that a lot of men say they want.
	So I don't see why people have a pushback with that because it's hard to wait for a woman who's given herself to somebody else.
	But if she actually waited and haven't had sex, I think she can get that off.
	I'm currently single.
	My longest relationship was almost three years.
	And what was the last part?
	I'm so sorry.
	Sorry, you've been single for how long?
	I've been single for technically like seven months, eight months.
	All right.
	The three-year relationship.
	Who ended the relationship?
	The three-year one.
	I ended it.
	Okay.
	Eric, what about you?
	It's only been a month, man.
	I'm still single, bro.
	I'm still single, man.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was, I would say, six years.
	All right, cool.
	That's everybody's relationship status.
	You know what?
	Kind of this is interesting.
	Have you guys seen this?
	This has been going viral on TikTok.
	Russian men versus American men.
	Have you guys seen that?
	I don't have it pulled up, Damien, but maybe you can try to find it.
	It's TikTok: Russian men versus American men.
	What is it?
	Like going 50-50, I think is the topic.
	That could be an interesting kind of segue on some of this stuff.
	I'm trying to find the actual clip, though.
	I'm going to see if I can find it, guys.
	Give me just one sec.
	TikTok not logged in, scuffed.
	Can you try to find it on over there on your?
	I reposted the video so I could find it pretty easily if you want me to get it.
	You don't have your phone at all.
	Oh, no.
	It's still TTS Monster.
	What the fuck?
	Hold on, guys.
	What the fuck?
	Absolutely scuffed.
	One sec, guys.
	Sorry, dude.
	Oh, my God.
	Not sure why it's bugged like this, boys.
	One sec, guys.
	What could that be?
	Do you have it?
	Oh, would it be American men versus Russian men on relationship notifications?
	Yeah.
	Large labyrinths.
	There we go.
	Thank you.
	Hey, ladies, do you feel bad when the more attractive feminists talk about their terrible experiences with cat calling and you have nothing to share?
	Also, name three countries.
	Bro, that's crazy.
	Name three countries.
	Okay, fuck it.
	Name three countries going around the table.
	Go ahead.
	Mexico.
	Can you tilt your mic down?
	It's just really, it's really low.
	I'm sorry.
	Don't worry.
	Trust me.
	The audio is coming.
	Trust me.
	Mexico, Paraguay, Uruguay.
	Paraguay, Uruguay.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	USA, Mexico, and Canada.
	Okay.
	USA.
	Well, I'll repeat the ones they just gotta pick a new country.
	I went first.
	You can't repeat a country.
	How about that?
	I'm just gonna stick to my roots.
	South Korea, Japan, China.
	I don't know any countries.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm so slow.
	You are super fast.
	Don't.
	I'm so sorry.
	You don't.
	Don't.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Try.
	Go ahead.
	Germany.
	Man, don't help her out.
	Go ahead.
	Yep, Germany.
	It's gonna be like can you say Canada already?
	Because I've somebody already said it.
	USA?
	Already said it.
	I don't know.
	Here, let me help.
	Pick African countries.
	That should help.
	If you kind of zone in on the continent, I think it can help.
	African countries.
	Three, just three.
	What?
	Wow.
	How about European countries?
	That's easier.
	That's a bit easier.
	Three European countries.
	I don't think anybody's named any.
	No.
	Huh?
	Europe is a country.
	No.
	Name three European countries.
	I remember the last time I learned about this stuff.
	I'm sorry.
	Italy.
	And that's one.
	Oh, I thought I had one.
	Germany?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	Germany?
	Okay.
	And England?
	Yep, beautiful.
	Darkavia, what about you?
	Egypt.
	Um...
	Yep.
	And Ireland.
	Boom, beautiful.
	What about you?
	Taiwan, Argentina, and Portugal.
	All right.
	Barcelona.
	Spain.
	Sorry, Barcelona.
	Israel.
	Okay.
	And it's another one.
	The Philippines.
	There you have it.
	Boom.
	There you have it, folks.
	Okay, all right.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	I do appreciate it.
	Where were we?
	Oh, do you have the video?
	There's a viral.
	Oh, no.
	That's the dude ranting about it.
	Can you find the actual video?
	Oh, my God.
	All right.
	Sorry, guys.
	One sec.
	We're trying to get this going.
	Do you have it?
	Hello?
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'll just move it on then.
	If we can't find it.
	Sorry, guys.
	All right.
	I'm just going to get into the pre-show notes then.
	If you can find it, let me know.
	All right.
	We have Michelle.
	Michelle, you had a terrible first Tinder date in college who ended up becoming a huge TikTok star.
	Yes.
	Can you say who?
	No, I don't want to.
	What do they do?
	How about that?
	Are they like one of those dancing?
	I think he does like skits.
	I honestly don't know.
	I muted him, so I don't really know.
	I think he does like comedy skits, though.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	You said modern dating is a joke, and dating apps are only for people who want to hook up or get attention.
	Yes.
	Now, I'm curious.
	I guess to you two, you guys are both friends.
	Maybe both kind of find yourselves in the same boat when it comes to dating.
	I would be curious to learn about, and we'll open up to the whole panel, but we'd let you guys go first.
	What's your type?
	So what are you looking for in a guy?
	You can list like physical traits.
	You can list personality.
	This sort of thing.
	I don't know, it's just my, can you hear me?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It's really hard to answer this question because I really go off like the vibe that they give off.
	Like, I would have to meet them in person.
	But like I said earlier, I like someone who radiates confident energy, someone who's comfortable in their own skin, but isn't cocky.
	And that's like really hard to find.
	Okay.
	But I have met someone or people like that.
	You have met people like that?
	Very, not a lot, but I have previously.
	And did you, given that this seems to be, would you say that this is the like ultimate thing you're looking for in a partner?
	Yes.
	Okay, given that this is something that's extremely rare, you've only come across it a few times.
	Did you like actively pursue these men who did have it?
	No, I don't.
	I've never pursued someone.
	Okay.
	Like pursue as in like slide in their DMs or like go out to them.
	Did you meet them in person or what was the nature of the last person I met?
	I actually met him on an app, which is ironic because I wrote that.
	I'm only on one dating app and it was like the last shot that I was giving.
	But yeah, I met him on an app.
	Did you meet up in person for a date?
	Yeah.
	Did he have that thing in person?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And how many dates did you with this guy?
	Yeah.
	Was this the one-month guy?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	How many individual times did you hang out with him?
	I think like six or seven times.
	Okay.
	And then I guess why did it not continue?
	What happened there?
	It's kind of a long story, but I had a series of unfortunate events happen in my life recently that I don't want to get too into.
	Yeah, we don't need the DC.
	And it's okay that he wasn't really there for me because we've only known each other for a month, but he was giving me like unnecessary emotional stress that I didn't need.
	So I just thought the timing of it wasn't right.
	And I just was giving you like he wasn't really checking up on me when I was going through like really big life changes.
	Was he aware of these life changes?
	Yes, he was.
	And I was very vulnerable with him too.
	And I told him that, you know, like I'm going through all this right now.
	So if you, you know, aren't there for me, I'd rather just not move forward.
	And he didn't.
	And so it's okay.
	And so I was like, okay, I just don't think I have the emotional capacity to date right now with so much going on in my life.
	All right.
	Would you say he was a narcissist?
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	So I guess going back to the question, like, what's your type?
	Are there any other things that you're kind of looking for besides just like the vibe and confidence, I guess?
	Someone who has ambition.
	Okay.
	Always like driven is very hot to me.
	Do you have like any specific questions or characteristic traits that you want to?
	Can he be shorter than you?
	I have been with guys who are 5'7.
	Ideally, I would like someone taller because I'm tall.
	I'm like 5'8.5.
	Okay.
	But I have been with guys who are 5'7, but I wouldn't want to go below 5'7, to be honest.
	All right.
	And like you'll date any race?
	Yeah, I'm pretty open.
	All right.
	I feel like I've dated like every race or like been out.
	Yeah.
	What, I guess what percent of men that you've like encountered either on the apps or in person or whatever, would you say like meet your baseline?
	Like, I'm into this guy.
	Like as in like, I'll swipe like either in person or yeah.
	Like I would be attracted to them initially.
	Yeah.
	Um did you ask percentage?
	Sure, yeah, we can do percent.
	I'm gonna say like just physical attraction like 50.
	50%?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But then you're they open their mouth.
	Yes.
	And that drops them most of the time.
	Or on the flip side, it could increase their attraction or attractiveness.
	But usually it's the other way around.
	Fair enough.
	Okay.
	And then what about you?
	I guess what are some of the things you're looking for physically, personality-wise?
	Personality-wise, it's a lot of, I mentioned this before, but consideration 100%.
	Consideration for his family, consideration for people around him, his friends, everything.
	I think that speaks a lot to who a person is, but also spatial awareness.
	If he doesn't notice like somebody barreling at him, I kind of feel like maybe not kind of thing.
	Wait, if he doesn't notice somebody barreling at him, like if somebody is like walking fast, like move out of the way for that person kind of thing.
	Don't like take up the whole street.
	In the first place, don't even take up a lot of space in the street.
	Move to the side if you need to stop.
	I see.
	But that's fair.
	Yeah, spatial awareness.
	I just, it's like, I don't even understand what you're talking about.
	I get it.
	Yeah, no.
	Walk down the street.
	Yeah.
	Take up the whole street.
	It's because I go to a lot of events, like music events, where a lot of people just stand in one place and take up like the whole entire street and don't not the street, but like the lane.
	Instead of moving forward, like for example, Disneyland, they don't move forward.
	They just keep on standing there until there's like a 10-feet gap and then they're like, oh, time for me to go forward.
	That kind of thing.
	It's valid.
	Just spatial awareness, consideration for others.
	Maybe it doesn't fall under spatial awareness, but I think it's what about like, you know, I kind of understand that.
	You know what really grinds my gears is when like there's a sidewalk and there's a big group of people and they're walking like five abreast.
	Okay.
	Oh my gosh.
	Five abreast.
	Listen, here's the rule.
	If you're in a group of five, it has to be two, two, maybe three, but you can't be like five in a fucking row.
	No, three, three pisses me off too.
	Three, three.
	No, three pisses me off.
	It needs to be two.
	Two or one.
	It's not acceptable.
	Also, if you're on the sidewalk, it has to be the same as on the like in a roadway.
	If you're walking, you got to be on your right.
	You have to be walking on your right.
	You know what I mean?
	People be walking on the left, but they're.
	It doesn't.
	It's fucked up, man.
	You know, spatial awareness consideration.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	In fact, I break up with women all the time because of this.
	All the time.
	Yeah, if I'm on the first date with a girl and she's just kind of meandering and like if she's on her phone, instant breakup.
	I get it.
	If she is in the wrong lane when walking, instant breakup.
	I'll just walk the I'll just turn around, do 180, be like, deuces.
	Honestly, like, I feel like it's common sense.
	Common sense.
	Yeah, it's like not having common sense.
	Common sense is a turn off.
	Yeah.
	Anything else for you that you're looking for in a guy besides spatial awareness?
	I think physically my type is like a buzz cut with tattoos, but all the guys I've dated have not had that.
	So buzz cuttos.
	Tattoos.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Huh.
	You meet a lot of accountants with buzz cuts.
	Surprisingly, yes.
	But the accountants are tatted up.
	Yeah.
	Would you date a guy with a face tat?
	How about that?
	No.
	Yeah, no.
	Not a face tat.
	Okay, that's a hard one to introduce to ma and pa.
	What about the tribal thing that goes up half the neck, you know, on one side?
	I think that's fine.
	Oh, that's fine.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	If it extends down to the neck, but if it starts and stops on the face, then no.
	Okay.
	Going around the table, what's everybody's type?
	You can just say like one physical trait and then like one personality trait.
	Go ahead.
	Tall.
	Tall.
	Okay.
	Tall.
	How tall?
	6'7 and up.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Come on.
	Come on.
	I'm being serious.
	Remember that I told you that my ex was 6'2, so the guy has to be 6'2?
	Wait, well, I met somebody who was 6'7.
	I'm not seeing him anymore.
	So everybody now has to be 6'7 and up so I can stunt on him.
	To stunt?
	Yeah.
	You want to stunt?
	Yeah, I want to be like, see, bitch, I can do better.
	Somebody taller.
	So let me ask you: if you meet somebody that's like seven feet and that don't fall off, then you're going to find somebody seven, two.
	Like, where did this stop?
	Like, dude, where did we go?
	It keeps going up.
	Okay.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	If I'm being realistic, maybe like, I don't know.
	I honestly like tall guys, but everybody's taller than me.
	So.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 5'2.
	Oh, come on.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's taller than me.
	I haven't met anyone.
	And then personality.
	Personality.
	I really like them douchey and cocky, to be honest.
	So it's like Andrew your tall.
	Oh, him?
	No.
	He's cocky.
	He's old.
	He's wrinkly.
	He has.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Why are you trying to get me to hook up with fat chicks all the time?
	Oh, boy.
	What the fuck?
	Fuck you.
	You have a wife and kids.
	You shouldn't be worrying about other girls.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you're the one worrying about how I look.
	I said you had wrinkles.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and you're like 300 pounds.
	Okay.
	I'm not 300 pounds.
	I feel bad for the chair you're sitting in right now.
	Stare.
	Ooh, sucks.
	I feel bad for your wife and kids.
	Oh, boy.
	I feel a lot worse for that chair than you should feel for my wife and kids.
	Uh-oh.
	Great start, guys.
	Good job.
	Good job to both of you.
	All right, moving on.
	What about you?
	I like guys who are athletic and like go to the gym.
	Okay.
	And then for personality-wise, I like men who act like men or like a gentleman.
	Like, open the door for me, make me feel feminine.
	Okay.
	Anything else on that front?
	Like, men who act like men.
	Yeah.
	Open the door.
	I feel like it doesn't take a lot of effort to open the door either.
	It should just come natural as well.
	Just come natural.
	Okay.
	I guess what is so?
	Do you think that men, they're not acting that way?
	Some of the guys I've dated or like have talked to don't.
	So initially when I'm picked up, I expect them to open the door.
	So if they don't, that's already like a red flag that I note down in my mind.
	It's not something that I'm like mad about, but it's something that I think about.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Can you list off any other things that men should do?
	I think it's really good if you're family-oriented.
	Like, I don't like men who don't really care about their family or don't do things to help their family.
	So when they are family-oriented, I find that really attractive.
	Okay, family-oriented.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Oh, do I go gap?
	I guess, no, you already gave, so we'll just, what about you?
	I like a man who has good music taste.
	And just a guy who's taller than me, I guess.
	How tall are you?
	5'3.
	Okay.
	What's good music taste?
	Well, I guess like really, like my music taste, I guess.
	That's good music taste.
	Well, I don't really like guys who listen to a lot of rap.
	Or I don't know.
	I like more of like bands, like rock bands or stuff like that.
	So can I ask you a question?
	How does music taste equate to a good mate in your eyes?
	Well, I didn't think about it that way.
	I just like a man with good music taste so we could like vibe together instead of like, oh, I don't really like your music.
	And I like listening to music a lot.
	So I would want him to vibe with me as well.
	I feel that, but how does that bleed into like a relationship?
	Because you could, I could like somebody who got the same music taste, but that don't mean they're a good girlfriend.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's just music.
	Well, I just feel like music means like a lot to me.
	So.
	Wait, so if they're like super ugly, but they have your exact same taste in music, like you're going to hit?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	So that's no, no, no.
	Yeah.
	Like.
	That's not enough, right?
	Wouldn't that just be a cherry on top?
	Like, I guess, yeah, I mean.
	But, like, would you pass on a dude who everything else was good, but like, he listened to, I don't know, uh, classical music or something?
	I'll try to make him like put him.
	I try to put him on the music.
	I like.
	Nah, he's like, fuck this shit.
	Oh, then.
	Fuck this shit.
	Well, that would suck.
	I don't know.
	That would suck.
	That would suck.
	Yeah, but he's perfect in every other way.
	Well, not perfect enough, I guess.
	Perfect.
	Everything else, but he just doesn't listen to.
	What do you listen to?
	What's your go-to right now?
	A radio head.
	Deaf tones.
	Okay.
	Deaf tones.
	Deft tones.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I thought she was going to say like Britney Spears or something.
	Or like.
	Rap?
	Did you rap or just.
	Oh, she's like Pearl Jam?
	I like Allison Chains.
	I like, I love Alison Chains.
	Stone Temple Pilots.
	I don't know them.
	All right, get on it.
	Okay.
	Get on it.
	Get with the program.
	All right.
	Okay, if you.
	What's up?
	My type, like, I have a preference, which are Asians, but honestly, I would go for anything.
	But I also like men that are mean.
	But not mean to me, but mean to other people.
	But nice to you.
	Yeah, because I'm very dominant in comes relationships.
	So I have to also have a man that is also could be a submissive, I should say.
	I should say.
	Yeah.
	But so it's like, yeah.
	But not like that.
	It's just very someone like I'm like, go do that.
	And they'll just go do it.
	Like a golden rich furboy band.
	Yeah, like a little pet.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That's how I am.
	But like, I wanted to be like that in public.
	He's not like that in public.
	He's more like he'll tell someone to fuck off.
	You know what I mean?
	He's dominant.
	Like a man who has a softball for you.
	Tough with everybody else, but you're a little pet.
	Yeah.
	Not my pet.
	I was like, I would just like, I want a man to do anything I tell them to do.
	But that, then he's not a man then.
	No, he's my man.
	But I'm saying, but a man, a man don't just do it.
	Okay, I guess I have, okay, I like to wear the pants in a relationship.
	That's what I like to say.
	Absolutely, but that's.
	Can you piss me?
	I don't think that's what a man would, like, a real man ain't gonna do that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well, that's not my problem.
	I will find the right one.
	But I will.
	Actually, I do have the right one right now.
	Temporarily.
	Really?
	Wait, I thought you said you were single.
	I am single.
	Is it the five?
	I didn't realize that the opposite of wearing the pants in the relationship means that the other person's wearing the dress in the relationship, right?
	Like, that's what that means.
	Is that, yeah, but like, I only said as like a metaphor.
	Like, I don't like.
	Yeah, I know.
	I'm telling you, the entailment of the metaphor is that if you wear the pants in a relationship, you're saying whoever you're with wears the dress.
	That's just kind of like that I've been with.
	That means your dude wears a dress.
	That's what that means.
	Okay.
	But yeah, no.
	I just like, I just like, I'm dominant.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	I just, I just am.
	But I'm like.
	I feel like if anything, he'll look good in a dress.
	So.
	And some guys like that.
	I literally, I promise you, if I told someone to put a dress on, they would put a dress on.
	Some guys like that stuff.
	No, it's just the truth is.
	Excuse me.
	It's because you're attractive.
	So a lot of dudes don't stand on real business.
	So they feel like since she's cute, I'll acquiesce to her because they'd rather deal with you than to be by themselves.
	But real men ain't going for that shit.
	I'm just telling you what it is.
	Ain't no real man gonna do that.
	But a lot of pretty girls y'all have that privilege with.
	A lot of guys, they're scared to lose you.
	So they'll do whatever you tell them to do.
	I know.
	I have something to add.
	Okay, so everybody likes to argue, oh, a real man won't do this.
	A real man won't do that.
	A 25-year-old is a man.
	I'm not going to call him otherwise.
	That is a man.
	That is a grown-ass man.
	I'm not calling him a boy.
	I'm not going to call him anything else.
	That's a grown-ass man.
	Biologically.
	A man isn't a metaphor.
	No, but we talk about what a man.
	Listen, if you're a 25-year-old man and you let somebody come and push you in the face, yeah, you're a man biologically, but you're not a man in real life.
	So, what I'm telling you is, a real man who really has dominance, who really wants to have some type of authority, is not going to let his girl to tell him what to do.
	And ultimately, she's not going to even get telling them what to do like that.
	That's what you're saying.
	She said dominate.
	So, dominate and compromise, two different words.
	So, based on her dominance, dominant and compromise.
	No, no, no, no, like I can also be, I can be simple.
	You're also talking from a woman's perspective as well.
	But you're also taking, I'm pretty sure you're describing your own personality, right, as the man you are, right?
	No, I'm saying, just in general, like men that I know that quote-unquote are what men that you know, yeah, women that are the type of men that y'all like, that you're attracted to, are not gonna let you do that.
	Now, that's- Why wouldn't they?
	I'm like, I'm basically, I'm their woman.
	They should do what I'm to make me happy.
	Happy home, happy wife, happy home.
	No, happy fan, happy us.
	It ain't just about y'all.
	Yeah, no, but exactly.
	But at the end of the day, it's they could do whatever they want, but they're at the like if I'm with them and they're with me, and like because I like something and out of respect, they will do that.
	For example, opening a door simply because it's respectful.
	Yeah, that's regular shit, but you said dominate.
	Yeah, that's different.
	And not dominate, like, I'm not fucking pegging a dude.
	Like, that's not what I'm saying.
	You gotta be kidding.
	You see, who's like that shit?
	I want to try it.
	She wants to try it.
	You want to try that?
	You got her to do.
	You want to dominate.
	I'm experimental.
	Hold on, go ahead.
	That's a real man.
	No, we want men who act like men, but what she's trying to say is like a soft spot, a man who has a soft spot for her and who listens to her.
	She just escalated to pegging.
	So what I'm saying is the type of thing.
	I'm just saying, I hear what you understand compromise.
	I understand it's a team.
	It's not all about the man.
	It's not all about the woman.
	But some women want to break a man and want to dominate him.
	What do you mean?
	And they're not.
	I never do that.
	I didn't say you did.
	I said I have a dominant personality and I have a dominance.
	Like, and you want to try to peg a dude.
	Like, that's I said I want to try it.
	That's because I'm experimental.
	Like, I literally have tried to do it.
	And I just feel like any dude that lets you do that is just a different kind of guy, man.
	I don't know if that's a masculine man.
	I'm sorry.
	Bro, if you loved a bitch, you would do it too.
	Care five, you have no assets physically to be demanding so much.
	Sit down and mind your business.
	You want to respond?
	Like, what am I asking for so much?
	I literally just ask for a man that is sensitive or has the ability to literally listen, I guess.
	But that's just how I have a preference.
	And it worked out with me till today.
	So is that a deal breaker?
	If you don't want to get pegged by you, would you leave him for that?
	No, absolutely.
	It's not like a thing.
	It's like, yes, I like assertive men.
	I do.
	But it has to be also a boundary where I'm not going to be, don't tell me what to do.
	Because that's not where we're going to roll with that.
	You said you're going to tell him what to do?
	Yes, because I'm very, yes.
	Like, I'm very assertive, but I can also be very submissive.
	But like, when it comes to that, like, don't tell me to go do the dishes because I'm not doing that.
	I will go to your ass, go do it.
	So, what do you tell him to do?
	I would, no, I would tell, like, for example, like, I would literally just be like, hey, go, go, grab my laundry.
	Or, like, I would like to wash your daughter.
	Hey, where you go start the washer, like, tough stuff.
	So, why you can't say go do the dishes?
	What's the difference?
	Because, like, I don't, like, it depends on, like, okay, maybe I'm like a narcissist, whatever, like, that.
	Maybe.
	Okay, I probably am a narcissist.
	But what else are you?
	That bitch.
	No, what's the other diagnosis?
	What's the other diagnosis?
	Oh, I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic.
	So that could also play part now.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Do you have more?
	I think, I mean, do you think, say, God forbid, say if something happened to you and you went through some type of disfigurement, you would still have that same bravado?
	You think you would still get that same response from it if you didn't look how you look?
	Uh no, probably not, honestly, but I would also have the mindset that I have now.
	Like, I really am you still be dominant with yes, like I would still have that type of mindset for it when it comes to that.
	So, I wouldn't change personally, but I'd see that how the men would see me differently and would probably not be so, you know, willing, I should say.
	You're so full of shit.
	The last show you were here, you were talking about how a dude came out and met with you who was like, Gonna do take some pictures or something.
	Was that you?
	Is that the same?
	And then he ended up dating him and he cheated on you like 17 times.
	Is that the same chick, Brian?
	Am I crazy?
	Same, yeah, it's her.
	It happens to the best children.
	It's the same chick, right?
	It's like you're so dominant, your dude cheated on you.
	Okay, but yes, but he, like, okay, yes, that happened.
	Give me a fucking breaker.
	Okay, but yes, that happened, but yes, but he is very like, that man is my bitch.
	Like, I'm not lying.
	He does do it.
	He does do that cheating shit.
	But when he's at home, that man, that man would do anything I say.
	Literally, and he's out here.
	But he's still cheating.
	He couldn't keep him at home.
	He cheated on you 17 times.
	But don't do how I, but I described cheating as him going into other people's DMs and calling them beautiful and stuff.
	Like, he's not out there fucking.
	He's not out there fucking.
	You said he fucking was plowing other chicks.
	I never said that.
	He doesn't know.
	You did say that.
	No, I didn't.
	You did.
	You did.
	Run it back.
	Where's the clip?
	You don't think he's trying to hit, you don't think he hit nothing?
	If he DM in chicks that they beautiful, you think that's all staying at that?
	I don't really care, bro.
	Hey, my nigga now.
	Oh, he's not your dude no more?
	No.
	Oh, so what?
	So how many dudes you met that like agree to this stipulation that you put on this you wear the pants?
	Is it working?
	Yeah, it works a lot.
	A lot?
	It should only work once.
	Yeah, no, like it happens.
	Because when they're really into you, they just kind of like.
	So that means this happening and then you lose them.
	Like, you keep gaining new guys that agree to this?
	Yeah, but, like, it's not like I've only actually dated two people, but, yeah, those two long relationships I've been in were successful because I...
	How they successful if they end it?
	I know I broke up with them.
	Oh, why?
	Because the first one I was with for five years, I moved to California not long after I met my other ex.
	I was with for three years and I broke up with him because so y'all, just y'all broke up because of distance, or you just yeah, I broke up with him because I was moving and yeah, so what about the next guy?
	Yeah, I broke up with him because he was cheating.
	Oh okay so so, but she wears a pants.
	You see yeah, but I'm not gonna go.
	If a guy wants to control, but a guy, if a guy wants to go cheat, no matter what you do, you could have him.
	Like, if you want, if a guy's gonna go cheat, he's gonna go cheat, no matter what you do.
	Like it's, you can't stop that.
	You were in control.
	To me sounds like you at the house, I was, but you can't.
	You can't help, like when somebody's gonna go out and do whatever they want, like that's not me.
	But when you at my house like bro that's, that's material.
	You could help it if you were actually in control.
	Well if well, you can't help a man that wants to cheat bro, like you really can't stop that.
	Actually in control, that's my point.
	Men are very different.
	Yeah, behind closed doors, you have the illusion of control.
	You don't have any control.
	No, men are so different behind each other.
	Like, what do you taught you?
	You don't have any control here.
	You, You have no power here.
	No power at all.
	Okay.
	He's able to do basically whatever.
	Okay, but he gets to go back and hook up with you after anyway.
	What does he care?
	It sounds like he's playing a game.
	He definitely sounds like he played to your vanity and then go when you are.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	But that was him.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I've been with other people that do play that part.
	Like, I have been with other men.
	I've been with women that also like that, so it's not like, it's not like, oh yeah.
	But I'm also saying when you say control, like when I'm controlling him, that's not what I'm doing.
	It's just that, like, I'm very assertive.
	Like, I like, I have a very that bitch mindset.
	You know what I mean?
	So, like, when it, I like men that respect that.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, it's really hard to explain.
	No, not that I'm saying, like, it's a mindset.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I'm, it's really hard to explain, but I like men that accept that.
	But I'm not saying, oh, I'm like going to pull this man by his hair and be like, listen to me.
	Like, I'm not like that.
	That's not what I mean by controlling at all.
	I just like men that listen.
	Literally, just listen.
	That's all I'm trying to say.
	Like, I like men that listen.
	Sound like you need a child, man.
	Oh, hell no.
	No.
	Sound like you need a pet.
	I don't know.
	I mean, we all need to listen to each other, but it's the way you say it.
	It sounds like you just want to.
	Yeah, I know what it sounds like.
	That's what I'm trying to correct it to.
	That's not what I'm, but how you guys are spinning my word is like crazy.
	I said it sound like.
	I ain't say it is.
	I just was sound like that.
	Let me add something.
	Men always want a bad bitch, and then when they finally get a bad bitch, they can't handle her.
	That's not what men want.
	Yes, it is.
	No, it's not.
	It is.
	Men always want the baddest.
	Are you a man?
	No, but I hear men always say, oh, I want the baddest bitch.
	I want this bitch.
	I want the bitch who's a 10 out of 10.
	I want an arm candy.
	I want.
	You don't hear me.
	Yes, because men look for status.
	They want a woman for status.
	No, we don't.
	Yes, they do.
	Okay, but yes, they do.
	Those men that y'all watch on television, like I hate to repeat myself, but it's the men that you are focused on, which is celebrity-minded, mainstream media-push men.
	Everyday men do not know what to do.
	I'm a man, I'm telling you.
	I'm 39 years old.
	I'm not trying to disrespect y'all or nothing, but I'm telling you, y'all looking at men in a certain sector of reality, which is not the everyday man.
	The everyday man don't care about your status.
	Based on the conversation I had from these women, the men that I know, what they appeal to, is what these two young ladies was talking about.
	Someone more conservative, more serving them, saving themselves.
	Don't a man want a bad bitch?
	He may want to have sex with that, but as far as a woman that he wants to be with long term and submit some type of vulnerability to, it's not a bad bitch.
	Trust me.
	Yeah, but I'm not walking around.
	I'm not walking around somewhere.
	I ain't talking about you.
	I'm just talking about whatever you call a bad bitch.
	Okay, bitch.
	Men don't want that.
	Do you think 23, 22, 21, 24-year-old women are looking for a husband right now?
	I don't know.
	No, we are not looking for husbands right now.
	You were talking about what the men want.
	And you're saying.
	Yeah, do you think the men are looking for a husband right for a wife right now?
	Absolutely not.
	Men do not want to commit right now.
	To a bad bitch, no, they don't.
	Yeah, but you were saying that they want a woman.
	Hold on.
	You said that they were wanting a woman with status.
	They do.
	No, they want a woman.
	No, that's not what I said.
	Sorry.
	I said they want a woman to add to their status.
	They want a woman.
	You just changed your entire mind.
	No, that's what she said.
	No, she said no.
	She said, I said they want a woman for status.
	That's what I said.
	Yeah, TikTokers, maybe.
	Yeah, but I like they want a pretty girl.
	Okay, a man does not want a conventional.
	So would this add to a man's status?
	An attractive, feminine, submissive woman?
	Or a bad bitch?
	You can be a bad bitch either or can be a bad bitch.
	But submissive woman can be a bad bitch.
	Anyone talking about bitch.
	She could be a housewife and still be a bad bitch.
	Exactly.
	I've met plenty of people.
	Most women who are self-proclaimed bad bitches are not really.
	Oh my God.
	No, no, no.
	I mean, like 39.
	A bad bitch is not a criteria.
	I noticed they didn't call themselves that.
	You can do anything and be a bad bitch.
	It's an added.
	I'm gonna be honest with you.
	I'm saying most women call themselves bad bitches most of the time.
	No, I said I have a bad bitch mindset.
	I'm not talking about y'all.
	I'm just saying most women who use that in general when they say that.
	Okay, yeah, that's how that's.
	I wasn't trying, I was trying to find the right word, but like the best way I could explain it at that time was a bad bitch mindset.
	But it's like, um, it's just confidence.
	Yeah, it's a confidence.
	Like, it's like I'm a very confident mindset.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	But it's that's why I use I'm probably a narcissist.
	Yeah, the thing is, the thing is, men hate a confident woman.
	When you're a confident woman, automatically, you're a bitch.
	You're a bitch.
	Yes.
	Let's go back to the first podcast I was on.
	MLD, I don't know his first name, but MLD was so mad when I called him out on being insecure.
	He hated a confident woman.
	He hated that I spoke out to him.
	Calling a man insecure don't make you confident, though.
	That doesn't mean that you're confident.
	That just means you're confident enough to talk crazy to a man or call him by his name.
	I can talk crazy.
	But that's not a problem.
	That doesn't equate to really confidence.
	Okay, what does confidence mean to you then?
	Confidence is when you can be a feminine woman without all this extra shit and be fit.
	Why feminine?
	Yes, why feminine?
	Ask me a question when you ask me.
	Yeah, let him talk.
	Go ahead.
	A confident woman to me is a woman who don't got to say the shit.
	She just shows up in that spirit, in that energy.
	She's soft-spoken because, contrary to popular belief, true power is not in letting everybody know you're in here.
	Because a beautiful woman ain't got to do all that.
	Her presence is powerful enough.
	Those insecure women, they got to scream, they got to shout, they got to say, I'm a bad bitch, hear me war.
	That doesn't scream confidence to me.
	It screams insecurity.
	The confident woman is really modest.
	She's really soft-spoken.
	But if you engage her, she has a lot to say, but she doesn't carry that on her sleeve, in my opinion.
	To me, a confident woman is not determined through presence and what she delivers through presence.
	It's through action and how she, I guess, has an effect on others and the world.
	And if she has that positive, confident mindset, I've grown up surrounded by bad bitches that are completely different women, different from women from different backgrounds, women that are with different careers, and they're all bad bitches to me.
	Honestly.
	The fuck?
	So, what's a bad bitch?
	I don't know.
	Confidence is a woman who takes no shit.
	No, I think a bad bitch is a confident woman.
	That's really what I mean.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, or no bitch.
	And inside of a holder.
	Because how I think confidence, I don't think so.
	Yeah, because how I grew up, like, I'm very, I'm like a very loud person, like, but that's just how simply how I grew up.
	But I'm not like, I'm not out of like person, like publicly saying out loud, like, oh, I'm that bitch.
	I'm that, I'm like, that bitch.
	Like, like, no, I'm not like that.
	But, like, this is the way how I think.
	I'm in my head.
	Like, confidently, I'm basically, for lack of a better word, you use bad bitch mentality, basically.
	Yes, because I can't think of the right word.
	That's what I said.
	But that's the best way to say that.
	It could be confident.
	It could be, you know.
	Yeah, but like, it's difficult.
	Audacious.
	You're putting, you're saying that women should be soft-spoken and feminine.
	No, I said what I you could do what the fuck you want.
	I'm talking about what I deem as a confident woman.
	Even as a confident man, I don't think confident people make it so clear.
	I think confident people are very cool in their spot.
	They don't have to scream and holler, I'm here.
	Like, to me, that breathes insecurity.
	Okay, so what is that?
	A confident man.
	Do you think a confident man takes charge?
	When he has to.
	Okay.
	What about a confident woman?
	Does she take charge?
	Exactly.
	You ain't got me.
	Oh, you got to know it.
	No, you got to let me.
	See, that's what I'm saying.
	That's a good idea.
	You're just talking over people.
	That's not confidence at all.
	I'm sorry.
	I've thought because I like to think before I speak, so that's why it took a second.
	So you asked me, does that mean a woman is confident?
	Depends on the scenario because you could speak up because someone had to tell you to sit your ass down.
	So just because you could be doing the most and a man say, hey, sweetheart, can you calm down?
	You can buzz.
	But the house gotta tell them how to calm down.
	I'm not even talking about you, sweetheart.
	It ain't about you.
	Relax.
	I'm talking about in general.
	You said, what's the confident woman?
	So, what I'm saying is, if a man, say if someone is out of line, even if a woman got to check, it could be a woman got to check her, or a man got to check.
	If a woman's out of line, acting a certain way in a restaurant, whatever.
	And does the man or the woman say, excuse me, man, could you calm down, chill out?
	And she gets bucked and say, I ain't got to do nothing.
	In her mind, she's a confident woman.
	But in my mind, you're just a belligerent woman.
	So it just depends on the scenario.
	Sometimes you have to speak up.
	Sometimes it shows power to take a back seat, male or female.
	So a good leader is also a good follower.
	So just being able to talk back and check somebody, that don't mean confidence to me.
	It just means you want attention.
	But why that's not, that does not cause attention.
	Just because you really don't not take nobody's shit and you're not going to be sitting in a scenario.
	I'm talking about your scenario, the one you literally just gave me.
	Why did you answer my question with the hypothetical for a woman, but you didn't answer the question for a man with a hypothetical?
	Why did the woman have to get a hypothetical?
	Because men, because men are naturally supposed to have to be leaders.
	I think women today's time think that to be confident, they have to mimic masculine behavior to show confidence.
	And I don't necessarily agree with that.
	How many times, if a man, if a woman's around true, a true person.
	But like, this is why men like you literally have, like you talk about, like you, men like to have your mindset is like, why men believe that they have so much like stress when it comes to uh relationships, because you guys believe that you guys literally believe you guys have to be leaders, you guys have to be dominant, you guys have to do this and this and this, and that's why men have stressed out about relationships so frequently.
	Men are stressed because they don't know what type of women to pick.
	It ain't got nothing to do with what they're doing.
	Men are stressed because they they chase after looks outside of character women.
	We're not.
	What's, what's being, what's insensitive about what i'm saying?
	No, I said you need to learn how to be sensitive, like i'm very I need to be a leader, but that's the and that's the problem.
	Today's women want men to be soft so they can be tough, but that's not reality.
	Let me add something real quick.
	Men just ask a question real quick.
	Why does he need to learn to be sensitive?
	Exactly no, because i'm saying that whole, that whole mindset is like the whole, like leader, because then you meet like, for example, like I would not be able to be with someone, like personally, that is so dominant, or like someone that is hat, that has a mindset where I have a fucking sensitive guy.
	Come off that.
	What are you talking about?
	No, i'm just saying no, i'm just saying not sensitive.
	But yes, the word sensitive is a perfect word I use.
	I use the word because I literally believe a dog dies.
	Should he cry in the movie theater with you?
	You go oh, I can't believe that the dog dies.
	Okay no, I don't like pussies.
	What do you mean sensitive?
	You don't want a sensitive guy.
	No, but that's not what I mean.
	Like being being able to a freak, I don't know the word.
	But being able to express your emotions when?
	No, that's not what I mean.
	But I mean like the being able to do what you open up?
	No, but being a freak, I don't know the word.
	But it's like when being able to know, like when it's okay to be uh like yeah, express your emotions at the right time.
	Like open up at the right time when it's the right moment.
	Vulnerable vulnerable, there we go, but that don't.
	Vulnerability and leadership is two different things.
	A man is still a leader whether you show vulnerability or not.
	You show vulnerability, but you still gotta wipe your face and go back and still lead our.
	Our friend Andrew over here said that nobody no, No woman wants a man who's a bitch and who cries.
	Hang on, hang on.
	What did I actually say?
	Repeat what I'm saying.
	What I heard was: no woman wants a pussy assumption.
	No woman wants a pussy.
	What I said was that I don't believe that you actually want a sensitive guy.
	You can say sensitive, especially emotional sensitivity.
	Calm down.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I've been letting you go back and forth.
	Chill out.
	Okay.
	Especially when it comes to emotional sensitivity.
	You don't want somebody in a movie theater, right, who cries when Bambi dies, okay?
	None of you women want that shit.
	Just stop coping.
	It's fucking bullshit.
	Total bullshit.
	You're never going to convince me in a million years that that's what you want.
	So that, if you think that that equates to being a bitch, well, I mean, I guess I can kind of grant that because I do think that that is kind of bitch made cry when Bambi dies, right?
	So that's all I'm saying.
	No, you're like 100% right.
	Like, yeah, no girl wants a fucking pussy.
	Like, that's the best way I can explain a man like that.
	I don't mind a sensitive man, though.
	I think there's like it's confident with being yourself because some men are scared to cry or like that sense of machismo.
	So it's like they don't want to cry or show that vulnerability.
	So I think when they do show that sensitive side of them, it shows some confidence with themselves and overall.
	I don't understand that.
	That makes no sense to me.
	Wouldn't it be the opposite?
	If you say, I think that it shows confidence if you show a vulnerable side.
	Yeah, yes.
	Being great.
	I don't understand why it wouldn't be vulnerable.
	Let me finish.
	Calm down.
	I don't know why it wouldn't be equally convincing of confidence if you don't show vulnerability.
	Why would you need to?
	Why is that a sign of a lack of confidence?
	I don't get that.
	It's actually not what I was about to say is that being confident.
	Yeah, I know, but I wasn't talking about that.
	Okay, let me finish speaking because you caught me almost three times now.
	Hang on.
	You're going to have plenty of time to talk, I promise.
	Let's just finish our conversation.
	Go ahead.
	She hasn't gotten in on the conversation.
	I want to get her in on the conversation.
	It can't all be chair one all night.
	So anyway, go ahead.
	We were talking about confidence.
	Why would this be problematic for confidence if a man didn't show vulnerabilities?
	So you cut me off so you can explain that I can now speak.
	That's what you did.
	I was about to talk and then you said, no!
	Did I say can we get another person in also in the conversation?
	Is that okay?
	Is that okay, Your Majesty?
	Is there anything else we can do for you, Your Majesty?
	Yes, Peasant.
	Why don't we?
	Hang on.
	Let me go get Brian.
	Let's just get you the keys to the fucking studio, Your Highness, and we'll roll out the red carpet.
	You can come on it.
	We'll get you some spritzers.
	Like, what else can we do for you tonight?
	But in the meantime, while you think about everything we can possibly do for you, perhaps we can get this other gal in because she hasn't been able to enter in the conversation.
	Silence, peasant.
	Okay, like I was going to say.
	Got him.
	Okay, like I was going to say is that.
	Yeah.
	It's talking to you, right?
	Okay, what's your question?
	Or what's your response?
	Yeah, so my question to you was just how does it show that it's not actually confidence just because they don't open up about vulnerability.
	It's because with today's society, people often want men to not show that vulnerability because they want them to be stronger, machismo.
	But I think showing, being able to show that confident side, or not that confident side, but being able to show that sensitive and vulnerable side is confident.
	But don't you agree that oftentimes a big complaint, which happens in relationships, is that when men open up to women, they use that information as a weapon that they can then utilize.
	Hang on, hang on.
	That they can then utilize later.
	So in some ways, it's almost like intel gathering.
	And in this way, they can learn your fears.
	They can learn various weapons to use against you.
	As men, they have physical strength.
	They don't really need to be able to weaponize emotion against women.
	However, women don't have that same asset at their disposal.
	So for them, information is key, right?
	So in some ways, aren't you basically requesting that a man possibly give you weapons that you can use against him later that he just never has to give up at all?
	Yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
	There are some ladies out there who do take advantage of information like that.
	But again, it's just with who you choose to share that information with.
	And it doesn't have to be right after a day that you choose to share that vulnerable side, but being able to share that eventually is strong.
	How long is he eventually?
	Like, if he never gave you the weapons, like, what's wrong with that, right?
	I don't really understand why that would even show a lack of confidence.
	Let's say this guy handles all of his business.
	He takes care of everything he's supposed to do.
	He takes care of all of his responsibilities and duties.
	Just doesn't want to open up to you about whatever emotions he has about any or any particular fears that he has or things like this.
	Why is that actually a sign of weakness rather than a sign of strength?
	Because you don't trust me.
	If I'm dating someone and they don't show vulnerability or they aren't comfortable enough, then you don't have any weapons.
	No, I'm not saying that it's a weapon, but you have what happened to you, bro.
	Are you okay?
	Yeah, no, he's been through some shit, obviously.
	Who rejected you?
	I mean, it's some truth to what he's saying.
	And it's some truth to what y'all are saying, too, because I get it.
	It's like.
	So, but that going back to what I was saying, vulnerability.
	That's what I was trying to say earlier.
	Who hurt you?
	Are we doing the who hurt you thing?
	Yeah.
	Who hurt you, bro?
	Who got you?
	Who hurt you?
	You're like, hey, you're like pushing 60.
	All the dumped women on the fucking panel.
	Who hurt you, bro?
	You're pushing 60 and you're like, really?
	Like, you're broken.
	I just, I'm pushing.
	We all got our fucking crosses to bear.
	You're broke and you're a broken spirit.
	What were you saying?
	The only thing that's about to break is those chair legs.
	I mean, I would just calm down.
	You're okay.
	So, oh, you think I, okay, let me ask you.
	Last time I was on, you said that as women age, they get, like, they get ugly and less attractive, and then...
	so you i don't is this controversial oh is it Did I make a controversial statement?
	As women get older, they become less attractive.
	Yes, this is the case.
	Do you think your wife is ugly?
	Oh, you're going to tie it into the wife.
	Yeah.
	Less attractive now at 40 than she was when she was 20.
	You got me.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm able to view objective reality.
	Boy, that was a real hit.
	You really got me with that one.
	You're broke.
	That was quite the zinger.
	You're broken, dude.
	Yeah, you're broken.
	Why do y'all always say who hurt you?
	Like.
	No, I'm just talking about in general.
	Like women always say who hurt you.
	Because I just said I never thought y'all admit when y'all get hurt.
	Like I definitely, that's why we ask you.
	Everybody gets hurt.
	Can I answer?
	We generally care.
	I was a nanny for a very long time.
	I babysat for lots of people many different ages.
	I have never met a stable man that acts like that man right there.
	Never met a stable man that acts like him.
	I've never met a stable woman that can't keep her appetite under control.
	So, you know, I mean, this is the thing.
	What is heal, dude?
	Look at you.
	Look at you.
	How much do you weigh?
	How much do you stop?
	You're so triggered.
	Calm down.
	Calm down.
	I'm six foot and 200 pounds.
	You're right.
	I need to lose about 15.
	You need to lose about 50, okay?
	Look, we all got our roles here.
	Calm down.
	You're broken.
	You're a broken boy.
	You got me.
	You know what you are?
	You're a broken record because all you got is you're broken.
	I haven't heard you say anything else.
	I just feel like the mindset of your head immediately going to like, Oh, she's using it as a weapon.
	I don't know.
	Like, for me, I would never do that.
	So, I think it really depends on who you are with.
	Because I agree with her.
	Like, I think it's not like lack of not showing trust.
	Like, I would want to be emotionally vulnerable with it from the other end.
	What you're saying makes sense to me, right?
	It's rational.
	You say the idea of a man opening up to me is showing that the man has trust.
	This is rational to me.
	The problem is, it's also rational to me the other way.
	The man says, Well, wait a second.
	If I open up, I actually give the women around me weapons they would not ordinarily have and information they would not ordinarily have, which can then be used against me.
	That's also rational.
	It is.
	Even opening up to you that they have that fear itself can be weaponized and used against you.
	So the thing is, is like at the same time, women say, I want an emotionally stable Billy badass guy, right?
	At the other side of their mouth, I also want somebody who's super emotional and opens up to me.
	It's like, well, that's because Billy Badass really, you can't emotionally weaponize anything against him unless he tells it to you.
	Well, I don't think I'm asking for someone to be super emotional with me all the time.
	It's just if I were to want to be with someone, I would want to be emotionally connected with them, right?
	Yeah, but why does that include that person telling you their fears or telling you things or things about themselves which could potentially later be utilized against them?
	Why is that a requirement for emotional connection?
	I don't know.
	I just feel like if you have a mindset of, oh, this woman is going to use my emotional vulnerability against me for one, I don't think it's not a set of is.
	So it's not saying I don't know.
	To me, I think you should be working on yourself.
	Yeah, it's not saying she will do this.
	It's saying, why even give her the opportunity to ever do this?
	What's the point of this?
	Okay, but is it someone always women emotionally?
	Well, men are not with women so that they have an emotional support animal, okay?
	That's not what they're there for.
	They're not with women.
	But men expect us to be vulnerable and talk about their deepest, darkest fears.
	That's not what they're with them for.
	I'm going to tell you the truth.
	You may not like hear this, but they're mostly with women because they really want to fuck them.
	That's honestly why most men not because they want an emotional support animal.
	They are viewing women through the prism of physical beauty, attractiveness, childbearing, not through the lens of, can you help me out with my emotional problems?
	Women are the ones who have the emotional problems.
	They buy into the witchcraft of psychology and therapy and all that bullshit.
	Men don't want anything to do with them.
	Men are literally playing video games in lobbies, talking shit to each other and having a ball.
	They don't need therapy.
	They don't need any.
	That's all women stuff.
	That has nothing to do with men.
	It's not even how men function.
	Wait, hold on.
	I do want to come back to you because I was back there.
	I heard you say something.
	Repeat what you said, like when it came to men revealing certain things about them being vulnerable.
	Can you just repeat it?
	I don't know.
	I just think that if you have a mindset of, oh, this woman is going to use my emotional vulnerability against me, A, I think you should work on yourself before dating.
	Like, I think it's a solved problem.
	I'll respond.
	Go ahead.
	And I lost my train of thought, but that's like my thing.
	Like, I just think you need to work on yourself.
	And not all women are like that.
	You can't just generalize women and say, like, oh, she's going to use it against me.
	Like, how else?
	Let me ask you a question.
	Wait, can I?
	You're meeting the wrong woman then.
	What do you think the tools are, women, for attacking men?
	They can't beat them up.
	So how do they do it?
	She can answer your question in just a second.
	So can you just repeat it one more time and then I'll have the back and forth.
	Yeah.
	I feel like if you have a mindset of thinking, like, oh, this woman is going to use my emotional vulnerability against me, I think you should work on yourself before getting into a relationship.
	So do you think that men should pretty much, at what point should they be willing to be emotionally vulnerable from this jump?
	Well, everyone, it's case by case.
	I think you would know as an adult when you can trust someone.
	Okay, I guess my question is, though, is like you're a virgin, you've not had sex with a man because you feel like you would get attached and you could get hurt.
	So men's corresponding fear, which I mean, I don't know if it's a fear for you, is we don't want to reveal, like Andrew said, certain information that's going to get weaponized against us.
	Most men have, maybe you women have had sort of a corresponding or asymmetrical experience with a man where maybe you revealed to a man something really intimate.
	And then when the relationship started to crumble, he used these things that he knew about you that other people didn't know and he weaponized it.
	Granted, this is something that women do far more commonly.
	I've had this experience myself.
	I have anecdotal experience.
	Eric, I don't know if you have an anecdotal experience where you shared something with a woman and then when the relationship didn't go her way, you guys were breaking up, whatever, she then weaponized it.
	She released embarrassing information about you.
	She released, you know, these sorts of things.
	In the midst of the breakup, she was like, oh, you were a pussy about this or whatever it is.
	So, I mean, like, I'm just trying to understand here.
	Like, wouldn't you just the same kind of angle, you're coming at this with, well, oh, you should just do it.
	Like, couldn't a guy just be like, oh, well, you should just fuck me because.
	No, I'm not saying you should just do it.
	You should do it when you feel like you're ready to open up.
	But I just don't feel like you should generalize and be like, oh, like, you know, she's going to use it against me.
	Can I ask you then just this question briefly?
	Go ahead.
	I assume that you agree with me that most men who you're going to be in a relationship with, you're not going to be able to beat them up.
	You can't actually physically probably beat them up.
	No, and I don't want to.
	Right, exactly.
	So inside of this force dynamic, that is not a tool which is available to you, right?
	Now, this is terrible to say out loud, but it is the truth.
	That is actually available to men.
	They can utilize force.
	They do it with other men all the time.
	But it's not something they have to fear from you ever.
	They don't have to fear that you're going to beat them up like they have to fear from a guy that they'll get beat up.
	So the question is, is what are the tools that women use to attack men?
	What do they do?
	They use innuendo.
	They use slander.
	They use rumors.
	They use things like this.
	Most of those things come from the men themselves telling these women these things.
	Since that is the case, you can't beat me up, but you're really mad at me.
	How are you going to attack me?
	Well, Bangs over here begins by saying, making some age jokes, right?
	Or, you know, they can assault your looks.
	You can start with that route.
	But if you really want to hit home, right, you're trying to attack the reputation because men care about reputation.
	So if they open up to you about things like their fears or embarrassing stories or they're emotionally vulnerable to you, how are they not setting themselves up for attack from you?
	But isn't that the same thing setting when women be vulnerable and feminine, you guys like to use that word?
	Are we basically setting ourselves up as well?
	Men can use that against kids.
	You're making it sound like, oh, menu.
	Men are the victim.
	Wait.
	If it were the case that we saw, for instance, that women were putting up or men were putting up online, like, oh, are you dating my girl?
	Like, women are putting up, are you dating my man?
	Things like this, which are designed to attack and destroy the reputation of men.
	Women are far more likely to do this than men are.
	Women are far more likely to go to court, make up stories.
	They're far more likely to make up stories in order to get assets like children and child support.
	They are happy to utilize information and weaponize it to attack men.
	Men usually don't do this because you're not.
	That is fair.
	That's a lie.
	That is such a lie.
	Almost done.
	Almost done.
	Nah.
	Because when they deal with men, they have the physical option.
	Men always have the physical option with other men.
	I don't like you.
	Bam, you get smacked in the mouth, right?
	Easy, done, right?
	This is the option they can always go with.
	With women, they can't do that.
	What ends up happening is they have to use the same tools, which is innuendo, slander.
	They're not as good at it.
	Wait, so by using your example, then shouldn't women have more to lose since they A can get hurt like physically and emotionally?
	Well, men aren't attacking women.
	My point isn't to say that men are out there attacking women in relationships.
	Right now, at the DV rates, for instance, they're pretty equal.
	What's actually going on, I'm trying to show you a force argument.
	So let me explain what I mean.
	So if me and the gentleman who's in the studio with you right now, if I'm in the studio with him, we begin talking shit to each other, he readily has the option available to him to reach across and punch me in the mouth and probably would if I said the wrong thing, or he may think vice versa.
	For women, that's not the case.
	He doesn't have the option to just reach over and punch you in the mouth.
	Okay, that is that is a social taboo, one.
	So he has to use the same types of tools that you would have to use for physical problem, which would be slander, innuendo, things like this.
	But because men are generally used to dealing with men and not women, right, they focus on the force aspect, not on the rumor-mongering slander aspect.
	Women focus on that even with each other.
	So they're way, way, way better at it.
	So I would say, no, men actually have way more to lose by opening up about their vulnerabilities than women do.
	Okay, I just want to say if you're going off by your point, you're basically saying like, oh, we should probably not have sex with men then because we're scared that we're going to get beat up.
	That's basically what you're implying.
	What are you talking about?
	No, the opposite.
	Men are not beating up women in relationships any more than women are attacking men in relationships.
	What I'm saying is that because men deal with other men through the aspect of the physical, meaning you start a rumor about me and you're a dude and you talk a bunch of shit, I might punch you in the mouth.
	That's not going to happen with a woman.
	Women that do that are.
	So with women, we're forced into the same information war against them, which is slander, innuendo, things like this.
	But because women deal with each other all the time, they're always in that war.
	So they're really good at that shit and men are not.
	So when you say, to me, it's almost a form of manipulation to say, I'm really attracted to stoic men who have great emotional control, but at the same time, I want them to be vulnerable and open up to me.
	It almost sounds like a form of manipulation in order for you to accrue knowledge, which can then be used against them.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, you know what?
	I'm not telling the stories that we prefer guys are willing up to the idea, open, like, open to the idea of being vulnerable.
	Period.
	That's all we were saying.
	You were, you're adding.
	Yeah, I know, I know, I know what you're saying.
	I'm sorry you don't feel safe in your relationship.
	Metro Matt donated $200.
	A sign of incompetence is confidence in being wrong.
	These women are a prime example.
	You are literally hearing but not listening.
	This is why women need to stop speaking so much and listen.
	All right, Metro Matt, thank you.
	Metro Matt, thank you for the TTS.
	Sorry for the delay on getting to it.
	I was away from the computer.
	Andrew, I think you wanted to steel man her position.
	Yeah, I mean, the position is simple.
	You're just saying that, you know, at the same time, I want this stoic man and this and that.
	I want a man who's not afraid to open up to me.
	What I'm saying is that men are at a distinct disadvantage, okay, which is that they don't deal with women the same way women deal with women.
	And when you have one-on-one conversations with women, you find out just how much the gossip mongering within the sisterhood goes, how much the backstabbing goes, and how much they destroy each other's reputation on a daily basis.
	They do it all the time.
	It's their mechanism for defense.
	It's their mechanism for attack.
	Not for men.
	Men's mechanism for attack is the physical.
	They beat the shit out of each other.
	So they're at a massive disadvantage when it comes to utilizing information in a way which is predatory or harmful to women, whereas women are not at that disadvantage with men.
	That's why when you say, I want you to open up and be emotionally vulnerable to me, right?
	What you're really asking is for them to give you weapons, which can then later be used against you, even if it's not by you.
	It could just be that you gossip with your girlfriends and tell them whatever it is that your emotional, his emotional weaknesses are, this or that, and they use it against him.
	But the truth is, is that they are at a disadvantage, like it or not.
	Well, that's why it's important to really take your time with showing that vulnerable side.
	Like, it doesn't have to be immediate.
	It could be after months or after years if that's really how long it takes.
	Just really be sure.
	Sorry.
	Like, Andrew, isn't Andrew?
	Like, aren't you vulnerable with your wife?
	Like, you're married.
	Like, don't you got you gotten that point with your her?
	I try, I make sure that, well, first of all, I don't think that women even like it when you're vulnerable with them.
	I think that that's cope and bullshit anyway.
	He's not even attracted to his wife anymore.
	I don't think my wife would want me even to be emotionally vulnerable or something like this.
	I don't even think that she would want that.
	Okay.
	What would be the point in the principle?
	Women, women don't value that.
	They don't value emotionally vulnerable men.
	They exploit emotionally vulnerable men.
	They don't value them.
	Why are women always like the problem and like the enemy in the situation?
	Oh, men can't open up because women are going to attack them and women are going to use it against them.
	You literally said it.
	You literally said it.
	When did I say that they were the enemy?
	You're just making shit up.
	Because you're acting like it.
	You're like, oh, whenever women have the chance to bite back at a man, they're going to bite back and they're going to use.
	Let me speak.
	Let me speak, dude.
	You fucking talk so much.
	Go ahead.
	Calm down.
	Calm down.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Like, in your story and in your head, women are the enemy.
	Like, it's so obvious.
	It's so clear.
	You can ask anybody here.
	Women are clearly the enemy in your story.
	Do you mind if I like it?
	So here's what you're saying.
	What you're saying is because there's a distinction in interpersonal dynamics between the sexes, that if I bring up those distinctions, that somehow that makes the women the enemy.
	So let's just test and see if this is true, Bangs.
	Okay, so yeah, because you're taking a personal opinion just so much.
	You got to let him finish.
	I'm just going to ask you a question.
	Do you think that men or women are better at weaponizing information to destroy the other?
	Men or women?
	Women, absolutely.
	Yeah, women, absolutely.
	So all you're doing is making my point for me when I point out this intersexual distinction, which exists, and that you're actually asking men to take a greater risk by being emotionally vulnerable than you are risking back.
	Now, can you make an argument against that or can't you?
	Okay, but women are emotionally vulnerable all the time.
	So now they have this emotional vulnerability against them as well as physical.
	Oh, bullshit.
	Oh my God.
	Shut the fuck up.
	It's so fucking annoying.
	Go ahead.
	So I think what he's saying, I do understand from his point of view and from his experience, this is how he understands women.
	And I think that's totally valid because earlier you were saying, like, you're saying we were giving you an opinion.
	You're like, this is not how men think.
	I'm telling you how men think.
	So can we just take a quick pull at this table?
	If men, or no, sorry, let me backtrack.
	If women at this table prefer somebody, a man in this case, who is more emotionally vulnerable versus a man who says isn't emotionally vulnerable.
	Show of hands for that, I guess.
	I'm like pretty neutral.
	But that's like, that's a reason why we all have something to react to.
	Go ahead.
	But that's the whole point of this topic: simply because I was looking for the word vulnerable.
	Like, I like men that also can get there with me.
	And then, because like, I'm not trying to be a bitch or anything like that.
	Here, can you give us an example of what this would look like?
	Just so.
	Okay, it would be more just like, I would, I don't know.
	Just like, for example, I'd be like, I would consciously just be like, I'm too lazy to go off the bed and go grab the remote.
	That's like right there.
	I'd be like, go get that.
	But the way I say it, it's very.
	What does that have to do with the vulnerability?
	I'll say something.
	Is it about vulnerability?
	So I grew up with a dad who was very masculine and stuff.
	And he had three daughters.
	And my dad, like, he knows when to open up.
	He's, I mean, my whole childhood, I had always been kind of scared of him because he was very assertive and very, you know, authoritative.
	But once I got older and he started opening up about his childhood and every horrible thing he went through, it gave me so much clarity on why he acts the way he acts.
	And it gave me understanding.
	So when I feel like you need to know people's vulnerabilities to understand the way they do.
	Haven't you guys ever read the book about the ways of love or something like that?
	It's a book about how people love and how they express their love, the love languages.
	It's about how people express their love languages and it all roots back to childhood.
	So when you're able to open up and be vulnerable about childhood or whatever, whatever has affected your life and has made you become the person you are.
	Shut the fuck up, Andrew.
	Dude, like just shut up.
	Hey, be nice.
	Be nice.
	Like, dude.
	Be nice.
	I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
	Since you mentioned a book, you need to read the first two pages of Green Eggs and Ham.
	Go ahead.
	Right now?
	Right now.
	Read it.
	Read it.
	Oh, my God.
	Here, while she's getting that going, we're going to react to a quick video.
	Can you pull that up, Damien?
	Yeah, it doesn't open in a new tab change.
	That should be fine.
	Let me take a look at it, though.
	Can I continue, though, with that?
	One sec, one sec.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	You got it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	There's no way to.
	It doesn't like give you the option to open it in the tip.
	Can you open it in like a.
	God, fucking Dropbox.
	It's dog shit.
	Are you sure there's no other way?
	Hold on.
	If you, here, go back to the.
	Go back to Streamlabs, the private chat, and then drag the link to a tab.
	That's what you did.
	Try it again?
	That's weird.
	I don't know why it's doing that.
	It's still giving you the dog shit Dropbox.
	Okay, fine, whatever.
	We'll play it.
	Make it full screen, though.
	Is that read a book?
	Okay, just play the shit.
	Mute it.
	Okay, she makes some dumb TikTok.
	I wanted this man to be vulnerable with me for so long.
	He finally called me yesterday and opened up.
	But the second he started crying, I lost all interest in him quickly.
	This is a safe space, but not that safe.
	So like.
	What?
	Yeah, like, you guys claim you want the guy to be vulnerable.
	Here's the lunch.
	We don't know where to go.
	It's her.
	It's not us.
	This is what I'm saying about generalizing.
	We don't know what kind of girl you are until we're like, oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	We don't know what kind of girl you are until we're actually in that situation.
	And so either we're going to fumble the girl, and you might say, well, if she was not cool, like, fine, it was good to lose her.
	But like, there's all kinds of actions that you can take in a relationship to protect the relationship if you want to keep it going.
	For most men, I think we would happily make the trade-off of, yeah, I'd rather just not be like a crying little bitch in front of my girlfriend and I keep her.
	Like, I think most men are happy to make that trade-off.
	So, for example, I know that, like, I like sensitive men are like, what was the word again?
	Vulnerable.
	Vulnerable.
	Those men, because for example, like I just got a call from one of my guy friends over the phone, and he was basically crying because he just got in a fist fight with one of his best friends.
	And he was, I was literally babysitting, I was literally working.
	No, he was just sad because he fought them.
	That was so sad.
	So that's what I'm saying.
	Like, I was there to support, like, be there for him.
	And didn't it make me feel some kind of way?
	Oh, like, this man's a pussy, like, nothing like that at all.
	That's fair.
	I think, let me, maybe I can, maybe I can come at this from a different angle.
	So, um, from your perspective, if let's say you had a man and he was doing everything correctly, okay?
	Uh, he was very charitable, he was very humble, but at the same time, right, he was very dominant, he was handling all of his business, he was financially set, he was he had all of like the qualia that you would that you wanted.
	What would be the investment there of demanding to note what makes him tick?
	Why is that even necessary to know that?
	Why is that the dive-in of open up so I can figure out what makes you tick?
	Why is that so important to even know?
	If they're if they're meeting all the challenges and checking all the boxes, why is it necessary for you to know what makes him tick?
	Because it's part of a partnership.
	Men are always so.
	Okay, let me tell you this: men are always so.
	I'm not asking you.
	Hang on.
	Okay, then let me answer.
	Why do you always have to say that?
	Yeah, you can answer, but can you keep it?
	Okay, so men are always women to answer.
	Men are always concerned about oh, body count, which is in the past.
	So, why woman, why can't women be concerned about their life the way they grew up?
	It's good to know about childhood, it's good to know about the way you were raised.
	Okay, okay, I get it.
	But the thing is, he's already doing all the right things.
	He's already checking all the boxes.
	Okay, here, I can assume.
	Hang on, hang on.
	The only thing I can assume is that the reason you're demanding that he open up to you and be vulnerable, even though he's doing everything else right, is because you want information.
	Yeah.
	And you want it.
	I don't know why you want it, right?
	He doesn't know why you want it.
	But why do you even need to know it?
	Why is it even pertinent for the relationship that you know this information, Bangs?
	Tell me.
	Why is it even pertinent?
	Why is it even nothing?
	Okay, one response.
	You go, you go, then we're moving on.
	Go ahead.
	I think it just all leads back to the fact that you think women are evil because it's all of a sudden it's about infra.
	Yes, I'm answering it to you.
	It's all about, oh, women want information so they can attack you later on and use it against you.
	No.
	It's about partnership.
	It's about understanding.
	Let me ask the question again.
	Maybe this time you'll answer it.
	The question is: if he's checking all the boxes and doing all the things you already want, why is it actually so important to you that you need to know what makes him tick?
	Because I want to know about his childhood.
	I want to know how he grew up.
	I want to know what happened.
	I want to know everything.
	You want to use weapons.
	That's why, Bangs, because you want to do that.
	No, you idiot.
	I agree with what she said.
	I think there is no such thing as a perfect relationship, whether that's with your significant other or with your friend.
	Therefore, fights will occur in your marriage or in your relationship.
	There's no such thing as a no-fighting relationship.
	And in order to have understanding and make that healthy, you need to understand who they are as a person, where they grew up, how they were raised.
	That's how you will maintain a healthy relationship.
	That's what made them.
	Let us assume.
	And that's not just with men.
	It's with friends too.
	I would want to know like my girlfriends, you know, how they grew up, where they were born.
	That's a quick response.
	I need a very quick response, guys.
	Very quick.
	All I'm going to say is that it wouldn't really matter ultimately if he's already checking all the boxes, already doing the right thing.
	No, it does matter because if he's doing all those things and you fight every once in a while, you've already admitted that that's healthy and normal inside of relationships.
	The only reason I can ascertain that you would need to know what makes him tick is because you want weapons.
	But also.
	Sorry, I got to let him go.
	Go ahead.
	All right, real quick.
	It was a lot being said.
	I totally understand what Andrew is saying because we've seen a lot of examples of women using that information to hurt men.
	That is a reality and you have to be cautious.
	You have to move wisely.
	Like last time I was up here, the guy was being vulnerable, taking the women on all these dates.
	And we're saying how he needs to be a little more have his wits about him.
	I understand what the women say.
	I think where men get it twisted up is we think being vulnerable is about showing softness.
	I think in my experiences, I don't know everything, but there has been women that have used that against you.
	They do exist.
	But I think when women say that, they're not necessarily talking about just sitting on the corner crying all the time.
	It's about when you're not afraid to show how you feel, there's a certain bravery in that.
	It's not about her seeing you sensitive.
	It's you not caring what anybody thinks about you in that moment.
	So if you're emotional, let it out.
	If you're upset, you let out.
	I think women are more drawn to the fact that you don't care.
	It's not necessarily about you being a bitch in front of them.
	It's you so confident in yourself as a man that I don't care who here.
	I'll cry because I'm mad as hell, not because I'm a bitch.
	It's because this is how I feel and I'm going to let it out.
	And I don't care who thinks.
	I think a lot of women are drawn to that aspect of it, not necessarily because, oh, you're soft.
	Because like, for example, I had one of my exes.
	I was vulnerable to her about things I went through with my daughter's mother.
	So women can use it against you to hurt you or help, just like a man.
	He could say, okay, you went through a lot of things.
	I could throw that in your face.
	Or I can do something to help you with what you went through.
	Like my ex, for example, based on what I went through with my daughter's mother, she made me a collage of moments of me and my daughter and like little quotes.
	Like, hey, no matter who sleeps on you, you're still a good person.
	Like, she used that weakness that I gave her, that vulnerability, and gave me something to give me confidence in that area.
	So I think the problem on both sides in today's conversations is we use too many, it's too much extremism.
	Like I said last week, when you're dealing with a relationship, there takes a certain level of vulnerability on both sides.
	And information can be used to hurt you, but it can also be used to help you.
	It's about the type of person you're dating.
	But I understand what Andrew's saying, but I understand what the women's saying too.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	You're going to go.
	You're going to go.
	You need to be better disciplined, though, with the insults, okay?
	Andrew, Andrew is very gracious.
	He called me fat.
	Earlier in the conversation, you just called him an idiot.
	You need to lower the both of you, but mostly you.
	Lower the temperature.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	All right, you go, you go.
	And then Andrew, final word, then we're going to move on.
	Go ahead.
	In relationships, when you also show that vulnerable side, like he was saying, it could also better the relationship.
	Like if I was dating someone and they said, I don't like when you do this because it makes me feel like the relationship isn't stronger.
	It just makes me feel bad.
	That showing your vulnerability can better the relationship.
	So it's sorry.
	It's better to show vulnerability.
	Okay.
	Yeah, just like adding on to what she said, like my dad was a very crazy guy growing up.
	He was very authoritative, very, I don't know.
	But when he started opening up to me as I got older on his childhood and how he grew up and, you know, all this stuff, it gave me better understanding and I had less anger towards him.
	Back then, I had anger towards him before I knew that stuff.
	And then once I had clarity on how he grew up and all his traumas, I finally, I was able to have compassion towards him.
	And I was like, okay, my dad isn't evil.
	You know, no one grows up and says, oh, I want to be evil.
	I want to be a bad parent.
	I want to do this.
	It's just the circumstances that lead to that.
	And that was something that took me a really long time to learn because it took years until my dad finally was able to open up with me about that.
	So yes, I do think it is very important to be vulnerable.
	Andrew, go ahead.
	You have final words.
	Yeah, very quickly.
	So I think that you can have very deep emotional connections with people, regardless of if they open up to you as a traumatic dumping ground one way or the other.
	Notice that it's women who are always requesting this, not men.
	Notice that there's a distinction in the power dynamic.
	That should give you a really good reason as to why this is so often requested, even though for men, it's not something that they even want to do.
	It's not a thing that we even do with each other.
	We do not trauma dump on each other.
	We don't do that.
	Ultimately, I would just kind of tie it off this way and say, don't listen to what people say.
	Watch what they do.
	That's the oldest piece of advice and wisdom on planet Earth.
	Watch what people do.
	And so if you watch what women do, what women do is they say at the same time, they want very stoic men who are very much under emotional guard and emotional control, that they want them to emotionally open up to them.
	And then we see what they do with that information.
	What they do with that information during divorces, they weaponize it.
	What they do with that information during a breakup is they weaponize it.
	All the information that you gave them, all that emotion, all those, and they can twist it so badly too.
	You can say, for instance, you know, when I was 18, you know, I took drugs for six months.
	You could say that.
	And they could say, well, this guy was a habitual drug user.
	He can't be trusted.
	Very, very minute things like this can be twisted, warped, used against you.
	There's actually no good reason for you to give these information, this information and these fears up.
	You don't actually need to do that.
	It's not good or healthy.
	And it is not going to negate a strong emotional connection.
	It's not going to do that.
	So that's what I would say.
	But real quick, though, Andrew, I got to keep it a belt.
	Like, when I said that last time you was here, you didn't agree.
	I told we were talking about the dude and how he was being green with the woman.
	I said, you got to pay attention to what the women do.
	And you was like, well, we're blaming the woman by saying that.
	But you're saying the same thing.
	I thought you were blaming, I thought you were too hard on the kid, not the woman.
	No, I know.
	But I thought the woman needed to be harder.
	You need to be harder on her.
	But you just said out your own mouth that you got to look at what a woman does and not what she says.
	That's the argument I used last time I was on a show because he was going by what the woman was saying outside of her actions.
	He was looking at the actions of her actions was not saying, I want to be with you.
	It was saying, I just want to show up and eat with you.
	And that's what I said.
	But this week, you're saying that.
	But just to make longer.
	That kid was naive.
	There's no doubt he was naive.
	Neither one of them.
	A lot of people.
	A lot of people are naive.
	But the thing is, you need to have mentors is men so that they can show you.
	And I'm not one of them, but there are men out there who mentor younger men.
	Absolutely.
	And real quick, I'm going to say this.
	Everybody's different because what you said, I don't necessarily agree with that.
	Like, based on how I grew up, a lot of my friends, we had to be lean on each other.
	Like, I talked to my man called me the other day.
	I got a lot of friends that call me like, yo, bro, I'm tired of these kids, man.
	I'm like, I don't know.
	My wife is stressing me out.
	So sometimes I just feel like giving up.
	Dudes do speak to each other like that.
	It's not that trauma dumping, bro.
	Your friends aren't calling you up and telling you.
	That's exactly what it is.
	You're telling me, bro, my man.
	That's complaining.
	That's complaining.
	That's a difference.
	That's semantics.
	Bro, that's semantics.
	Whenever someone's calling you about, that's your opinion.
	I'm not going to try to change your mind.
	But whenever someone calls you in a vulnerable state about what they're going through, insecurity about themselves, I don't know if I can make it.
	I don't know if I got the money.
	I don't know if my wife.
	Those are vulnerable moments that men share amongst each other as well.
	So like I said last time, we can't speak from just our point of view because everybody's not like us.
	And how you grow up and how you behave determines how you deal with emotional situations.
	Maybe the way you grew up, you had a strong mother, you had a strong father, y'all had a certain regiment where emotions wasn't required for you to cope.
	But certain people don't grow up with those structural environments in their family.
	So they have to become vulnerable just to create relationships in their own life because they don't have that type of family.
	So when we try to paint everything with a broad brush, I don't think no one gains from that.
	I think it just becomes a problem.
	So I would just say that having male friends who you have a lot of history with, and you guys have a deep trust factor, and you also understand the force dynamic there as well.
	There's a force dynamic even between friends.
	If he goes out and slanders you, things like that, what happens?
	He gets beat up.
	That's what happens.
	So when you're talking about interpersonal dynamics with men and even the way that men complain to each other, totally different than the idea of trying to dive into the deepest, darkest recesses of your brain so that you can trauma dump.
	And that's what's actually being requested with emotional vulnerability is that you give up, in a sense, a lot of your sovereignty by doing that.
	And I don't really see what the gain here is.
	If you're saying, my best friend who I grew up with calls me and he talks to me about interpersonal things, you still have a force dynamic in play there.
	You can still do something and he could do something back to you if you were to weaponize that.
	You don't have that with women, dude.
	That is not theirs.
	But I think what you think.
	You just have to be better at it than they do.
	But I think what you're explaining as emotional vulnerability is not what everybody's talking about.
	I think what, like I said, in my opinion, what it is, it's not necessarily just telling your girl everything.
	It's the fact that you don't care about how you're viewed in that moment because you're so secure within yourself.
	It's not about impressing her or making her look at you a different way.
	It's about saying, I don't care what you think as my woman.
	So in other words, if I'm talking to you.
	I don't even care if she wants you to be emotional.
	Because it's not about her.
	It's about me.
	I don't care who.
	I'm just talking about me personally.
	No matter who I'm around, if I feel away about something, I'm going to let it out because I'm confident enough of myself.
	If someone wants to judge me because I'm letting a vulnerable moment happen, that doesn't take away from me.
	And I think when men go into a situation, old women go into a situation saying, well, I don't want to show my true self because this person can take something away from me, that shows insecurity within themselves, in my opinion.
	Well, I think the opposite.
	I think that emotional control is part of getting rid of the passions and that men are completely inundated way more than they ever should be in modernity with the passions.
	And you're a Christian.
	Under Christian ethics, you know the heart's a liar.
	And because the heart's a liar, you have to make the heart work for you, not be enslaved by the heart.
	And so the thing is, like, you know, I don't think it's a good idea to give into the passions.
	I don't think it's a good idea to be overly emotional with either men or women.
	I do think it's nice to have confidants who are very close friends, but I think even then you should be somewhat guarded.
	You should be somewhat guarded.
	And ultimately, that's how men survive with each other.
	I mean, we have to survive that way with each other.
	You can't tell, you can't, you can't tell your friend.
	Like, here, let me give you an example, right?
	Let's say you have a close friend of yours or, you know, like that you grew up with or something like that.
	Let's say that the night before you had a dream that a dude did stuff with you.
	Are you going to tell him about that shit?
	No, you're not going to tell him about that.
	That's a crazy example, though.
	You'd be like, wait a second.
	I'm not going to tell you.
	Why?
	Because you wouldn't want information like that to get out, right?
	That's an extreme example.
	I don't dream like that.
	But it's an extreme example to demonstrate to you why it is that in many cases, you're still not going to reveal potentially embarrassing information, even to a person you really trust.
	And there's a lot of sense to that.
	Because you keep, I'm going to shut up.
	You keep talking about the worst possible situation.
	We got to move on.
	We're going to let a couple chats come through.
	I'm going to have you read them.
	Okay.
	They're going to come up on screen.
	Thank you, Lucas, for the message.
	Bless you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, start reading, please.
	I'm blind.
	Okay, gents.
	My apologies, but I'm compelled to talk shit in response to Delulu Girl Chair 5.
	I'm 6'4, 235 pounds, a partner at New York City American law firm, Amlaw 100 firm.
	So riddle me.
	Sorry, guys.
	Fucking.
	Riddle me this, by the way, the two of us, who would be dominating whom?
	This is for you.
	Go ahead.
	Well, obviously, I mean, if you're not into it, then that's not, that's your opinion, but that's what I'm into.
	So that's my answer.
	Okay, you'd be dominating the six foot four pounds.
	I like my short kings.
	Sorry, but my, yes.
	Are you Asian, Lucas?
	She likes Asian men, so but not if you're that tall.
	He says, part two, don't ever forget high-earning, competent, and virtuous men are the prize, not you.
	And sure as hell, not the mongoloid piglet in chair one.
	Now, excuse me, my hot blonde wife brought me a sandwich.
	Time to eat.
	Yo, Lucas, thank you for the message.
	Do appreciate it.
	Give a good wife.
	Speaking of on that chat, going around the table, who do you guys think is the prize?
	Men or women?
	Starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	Women.
	Who's the prize?
	Women.
	Women.
	Both.
	Both.
	Okay.
	Both.
	Both.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	Oh, we have another one here from Lucas.
	We have Dimwitz.
	We process emotions differently.
	Our brains are wired differently, mainly because of something we call testosterone.
	Actually, we have a societal duty for stoicism.
	Otherwise, we'd all be in jail.
	Lucas, thank you so much for the chat.
	Really appreciate it, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	I did not know you were a 6'4 Giga Chad, 235 pound lawyer.
	Thank you, man.
	W yo, W's in the chat for Lucas, boys.
	By the way, he is an attorney.
	So all of you guys, if you have any misdemeanor charges, felonies, he also does citations in New York, New York City.
	He also, where's upstate New York?
	Is that like Buffalo?
	Buffalo?
	You're from Jersey, right?
	Yeah.
	If you guys catch any DUIs in Buffalo, he specializes in DUIs, and he also does murder.
	He defends murder cases.
	So anybody who's been charged with murder, manslaughter, involuntary, voluntary, he also does all that.
	So Lucas, thank you, man.
	Wait, that guy?
	That guy, yeah.
	So if you ever catch a case in New York State, he also practices in Rhode Island, too.
	Can he drop his full name so we could search him up?
	Are you planning to commit any felonies in New York?
	Maybe in the future, you never know.
	I could refer him to you.
	I will connect you after the show.
	It sounds like you maybe have some pending criminal cases in New York State.
	I will be sure to get you guys connected as soon as possible.
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	Really appreciate it.
	W's in the chat for Cajun and everybody else dropping the Prime subs.
	Really appreciate it.
	Speed Dating Canada.
	Raid with one viewer.
	Wow, fantastic.
	Appreciate it, man.
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	Appreciate it.
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	Appreciate it.
	All right, we're going to get back into the pre-show notes here.
	So moving back over to, we got through all of Michelle's.
	We have Chloe.
	Chloe, you said the time period to ask someone on the first date shouldn't take more than three days.
	Have you had experiences where they just don't ask?
	Yeah, and it is what it is.
	I think it's just 72 hours for me.
	Like, I feel like the people that I connect with are around my age, similar career experience, everything.
	So, if you don't show me interest in like 72 hours, you don't set up a date, you don't set up a time, then it's kind of like, what are we doing here?
	Why don't you?
	I think personally, because growing up in my family, I set up a lot of events for like Thanksgiving, Chinese New Year's, everything.
	So, I think if a man doesn't plan now, will he ever plan in the future?
	Couldn't the man just say, if she doesn't plan now, will she ever plan in the future?
	Yep, if they want to do that, they can do that too.
	Because I'll plan future dates, of course, but I want to see at least on the first couple ones that he's willing to put that effort against consideration.
	But can the guy just say, Well, I'm waiting to see if she'll put the effort in?
	Yeah, if he wants to, he can do that.
	So, you guys would just be in a deadlock, and even though you guys would otherwise be a perfect match, aside from this one component, it would just never happen because neither of you were willing to make the first move, basically.
	I think we wouldn't be a perfect match because of this.
	Just on the basis of him not taking initiative, yeah.
	Okay, but I mean, you seem more like, at least from what I've gathered so far, you do seem like a bit more progressive.
	Um, what objections, I guess, do you have besides the one you've already listed to like actually just, hey, what's up?
	You want to go get dinner?
	Like, where, where's the uh the line of why?
	I guess what's the uh objection to you from making that initiative?
	I'm like, I do a lot of hosting, I host a lot of parties with friends, everything.
	Personally, I know I have the ability to plan together and buy people set advice in way in advance, but I want to make sure to see that he's the same if he'll do in the future, set in co-events where he's inviting friends over and everything.
	And if he doesn't take that initiative, sorry, if he doesn't take that initiative now, I, in the beginning, when he should be showing the most interest, if he has less interest in me in the future, he's going to show even less effort in the future as well.
	But I also believe if we get to know each other, we should be growing our interest in each other.
	So, if he does show less interest, then again, it's not a good match, and that's all right.
	And then, like, should he also pay for the first date?
	I think whoever this kind of goes hand in hand.
	Uh, well, you just said you don't ask first, so I mean, it's like you just said whoever asks, but you've just conceded that you refuse to be the one to ask.
	So, it's kind of like de facto, the man has to pay then, right?
	Yeah, and in the future, when I plan the dates, I'll be paying this whole like just show of hands on the like paying for first dates thing.
	Uh, who here thinks the guy should pay for the first date?
	Who here thinks whoever asks should pay?
	Okay, who here asks men out?
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	I mean, don't you think this whole like if your position is, well, whoever asks should pay, don't you kind of think that uh this would make sense if men and women asked each other out at similar rates, but the reality is that's not the case in actuality.
	Probably like 99% of first dates are initiated by men, so the like whoever asks should pay ignores like the massive gap that exists between men and women when it comes to initiative.
	So this kind of like seems like another way of saying men should pay, but what yeah, that's exactly right.
	What's your question?
	But how much time do you take to prepare for a date or before when you used to go on dates?
	How much time You mean like getting ready for a date?
	Yeah.
	30 minutes, maybe?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think the girls here can say they usually take a long time to get ready for nails.
	What if I give you nails?
	Among other things.
	Yeah, what if I give you a makeup and nail pass?
	Oh, yeah, of course I take it.
	But other than that, like, obviously, nails cost a lot of money.
	Do you think, wait, hold on.
	Just to be clear, do women wear makeup and do nails and hair?
	And do you do it for men or do you do it for yourselves?
	Do you want us to show up on the first date looking crusty?
	But like, you should present yourself well, but like having like full glam makeup and like perfectly manicured everything nails, especially like speaking on the nails thing, like do you think, granted, there are some weirdo dudes out there.
	You think a guy's ever like been on a date with a girl and she had like her nails weren't all mangled and they were just normal nails.
	Think a guy's ever been on a date with a girl and she didn't have like fake nails and he's like, damn, that's not a good thing.
	Yes, I can't fuck her.
	Guess I can't.
	What?
	No.
	I think it's more.
	Couldn't you extend this anyway?
	Like, couldn't you just extend it out and say, okay, well, then everything in a man's life was done in preparation for this date?
	Like, you could just kind of logically extend this out on both sides as far as you possibly wanted to.
	Right.
	But the thing is, I only did this for this date, and so therefore you should pay.
	And it's like, okay, but I did the accumulation of all of my life's work was done for this particular date.
	So therefore, you should pay, right?
	Does that make any sense to you?
	No, right?
	To piggyback on what Andrew's saying, like, let's say, for example, who here would be attracted to a guy who could easily defend you in some sort of self-defense situation?
	So let's say he either owns a firearm or he's like a he's a boxer and he's spent like 10 years boxing, right?
	So would it be fair to say, like, let's say a guy's on a date with you and like some guy is like harassing you and he like fucks up the other dude and it's warranted like self-defense or whatever.
	And he's like, well, now that I fucked up this other dude, you need to reimburse me for all of my years of all the costs, the training costs for the gym.
	You need to now reimburse me and all our future dates are on you because I fucked this dude up and here were my costs associated with my Brazilian jiu-jitsu or my boxing gym.
	Or here's the firearm I used to prevent some guy from maybe this guy had a knife.
	Boom kills the fucking guy.
	Oh, now you got to pay.
	Is that a fair proposition or no?
	I think you should hook him up with the New York lawyer at that point if he wants to build that one.
	Hold on, okay.
	Um yeah, it's, we're okay.
	Go to sources tab.
	Go to sources hide, Hide, Stream yard.
	Okay, I think we lost internet.
	Hold on, did something get unplugged back there?
	It's not your fault, but hold on, we.
	One sec guys I'm.
	Oh man, hold on.
	How long has it been like that?
	Just like, just just right now.
	Okay, hang tight guys.
	Uh Illa, can you take over for just a sec?
	Sure so ladies, y'all be online dating sometimes.
	Have you ever done it?
	Yeah, do y'all think anybody can go?
	Do y'all think it's a major difference of online dating as of, as opposed to offline?
	Today's time was really like the same thing.
	It's like all men I think are like kind of pieces of shit when it comes to dating.
	Say that again.
	Say that again.
	A lot of men are pieces of shit when it comes to dating, no matter if it's met on you now you, you blame Andrew for being negative, you being negative you, just.
	Yeah, I think online dating has gotten like more, I would say, more sexualized now than it was back then.
	Remember, you said you used like what's it called?
	Temper, Temper?
	Tinder.
	Tinder, yeah, like Tinder.
	Tinder or something like that.
	And then like you, and people would go on there to find friends.
	Like, I remember doing that shit in high school.
	Yeah.
	You was on Tinder in high school?
	Yeah, like, for girls, you know, like to make friends and stuff from other high schools and stuff.
	And I made a friend and she took me to her homecoming.
	You couldn't just be on Facebook?
	You had to be on Tinder to meet a girl?
	I didn't have Facebook.
	I wasn't, I was like, you went straight to dating.
	Yeah, it was mainly like social media wasn't like allowed.
	So I was like.
	But the dating app was, though.
	No, I was.
	Yeah.
	Like, I used it for French things.
	But like, now everyone used to, like, people really believe that.
	Like, it's for hooking up now.
	But I feel like back then, it really wasn't like that.
	I think we're all online dating, whether you're on the app or not.
	I think if you're talking, if you have a social media account, you're online dating.
	Because a lot of people, they don't just meet on the app.
	They meet on Instagram.
	They meet on Facebook.
	So I think we're all just online.
	Facebook is crazy.
	The only issue with, I would say, like a dating app is like you actively have a lot of options.
	So let's say you match with someone today and you start talking to them.
	You like them.
	They're pretty chill.
	And then like two days later, you match with someone you really find attractive.
	And it's like, you're not going to be talking to the person.
	You think it's too much?
	It's like option overload because there's so many people that you could choose from.
	So you never really make that choice.
	Yeah.
	Like back then, it was like, okay, like my friend told me this actually, but he's like, oh, back then, it's like very rare that you see like a baddie like too often.
	I mean, I don't really understand that because I see fine women everywhere that I go.
	But back then, it's like, I guess for women, it's like, oh, it's like, it's very rare to find like a good-looking guy.
	But now with the internet and social media, it's like you find a good-looking guy like every few years ago.
	So you see good-looking women all the time, but you don't see good-looking men all the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, basically.
	Y'all gotta stop.
	Y'all gotta stop.
	See, like, I'm also a person that, like, I prefer to meet someone in public.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, oh, we run into each other at the coffee shop.
	Yeah, and we both find each other.
	But I think it goes for both like sexes.
	It's like men always are looking for male validation and women are always looking for woman validation.
	I don't, but that's not necessarily true.
	Like, we don't know.
	It's not, but just like you, you can't, you can't do that.
	Men do stuff to impress other men.
	You can't be on Andrew about painting everything with a broad brush and you turn around and do the same thing because I don't give a damn what another dude think about who I'm with.
	Like, I don't think men do that.
	That's not true.
	I know a lot of the guys' mindsets.
	I think what's pushed to y'all is that, but I don't think men care.
	I see a lot of men that look better than the women they with.
	I see a lot of guys in shape with a woman that may not be in the best shape because I treat her.
	So I don't think that's necessarily true.
	From my personal experience.
	Don't let them off the hook on answering if they do their nails and makeup for men or for themselves, Brian.
	How did you?
	You totally shifted the conversation.
	I don't know how that fucking can't.
	I turned that shit off, bro.
	What the fuck?
	They're hacking you.
	Oh my God.
	Fucking Cox is dog shit.
	Yo, are we chat?
	Are we back?
	Chat, are we back or no?
	Is it still scuffed?
	Hold on, boys.
	I'm going to try something.
	We're probably going to.
	Are we back, boys?
	Are we back?
	Chat.
	One in the chat if we're back.
	One in the chat.
	Sorry.
	Did we lose the Twitch?
	We might have lost the Twitch.
	Unfortunate.
	Hold on.
	Let me see if we're still live on Twitch, though.
	I don't know.
	Did it restart the Twitch stream?
	Oh, it did.
	That's fucking bullshit.
	I was like, ah.
	Hold on.
	I'll just leave it here for a sec.
	Sorry, guys.
	Internet.
	Internet's all fucked up, boys.
	I'm going to try to fix it.
	I don't know what's going on.
	All right, one sec, guys.
	I got to go back there and fix that.
	Go ahead.
	Continue the control.
	Yeah, what was he talking about?
	I know how men like impressed men.
	You was talking that bullshit about how you see all these beautiful women, but all these ugly ducklings walking down the street.
	Absolutely.
	That's not.
	You can't be biased, sweetheart.
	You being biased right now.
	I'm sorry, my eye really hurts.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	No, but it is.
	You don't think it's way more beautiful women out here than it's attractive, guys, in your everyday life?
	I feel like there's a lot more women who put it in the middle of the moment.
	But it's also because a lot of women don't have.
	What do you define effort?
	But like men don't have to put that much effort.
	Like, well, in your guys' eyes, it's effort.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, you can't eat the cat and springfield.
	For women, it's not.
	It's like a prior, it's like an expectation.
	Like, getting ready.
	Oh, if you don't get ready, if you just go out and like how you just woke up, start off the shower.
	To men, that's like absolutely a no-no.
	You need to absolutely get ready because then if you're not ready, you're a bum.
	You're whatever.
	You don't pay attention.
	You're lazy.
	Get ready means look presentable to the world.
	It don't mean put on a pound of makeup.
	Be ready means you got on a clean top, some clean shoes.
	Your nails is, you don't have to be done.
	Your nails don't even got to be painted.
	As long as you have naturally, like my mother, she got pretty nails.
	She don't even got to do all that.
	Like, you got pretty hands.
	You got pretty hands.
	Oh, thank you.
	Men don't care nothing about, men don't care nothing about that.
	So I'm just saying.
	Get ready just means show up.
	It doesn't mean you got to be great.
	It's not the worst internet service provider.
	Everyone is saying it.
	I'm glad you got to do it.
	I like to do like the regular shit because that's what we're going to wake up to.
	No, yeah.
	And I'm glad.
	You're going to wake up to the makeup face.
	No, yeah.
	I'm glad.
	I'm glad you don't care about that.
	Like that's on a bunch of people.
	Often men don't, though.
	No, that's the play, honestly.
	Yeah.
	But you would be surprised.
	A lot of guys are into like the no makeup hair up, right?
	And then like sweatpants and like men are just so okay.
	You show, I've done this to my friends where I show up them a picture of a woman who's wearing makeup, but it's a no-makeup look.
	And then you ask them, are they wearing makeup?
	And they're like, nope.
	Like, no, you don't wake up with rosy ass cheeks and mascara on.
	And men just think like that's, oh, that's an expectation.
	Like, women wake up like that.
	No, like, that's some kind of thing.
	You're talking to one right now.
	We do not think that.
	Like, we don't.
	I'm telling you, we don't.
	Like, maybe the guys you talk to, it depends on the demographic, where they live at, what they're into.
	I don't know.
	But men like you looking naturally pretty because that's the real you.
	I don't want to see the mascara all the time because that's not who I'm laying with when I wake up.
	I don't want you to like two different people.
	I have a question for you.
	Overlord.
	Yo, that voice is crazy funny.
	Okay, so would you say that like when you okay, so you would prefer women without makeup?
	So let's say you're into it.
	You don't need it because some understand because one thing I have learned women got her big giant size.
	So if she look in the mirror and she don't like her natural skin complexion and she don't like how she naturally looks, she's going to do what she got to do to feel confident.
	If she got a skin problem, let's say you met her.
	If you don't have that issue, then no, you don't need that.
	Let's say you're into a girl with like a, you know, she wears a good amount of makeup, you know, the whole deal right there.
	And then like, then she took off her makeup, but she looks completely different.
	Would you still fuck with her?
	If you met her, and the only time you, this is your first time ever seeing her without makeup, and now she looks completely different without makeup, would you still fuck with her?
	I would, it depends on how drastic it would be.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because it's like, that's not you.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it might, it's like.
	But like her personality is like off the charts.
	Like she's an amazing person.
	And the only thing that's different is her face.
	But I'm saying men are still visual.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So it's like that, how you present yourself is a part of your personality too.
	Because if you're so self-conscious about how you look, that says something about your mindset as well.
	So if you're so caught up in your face over everything, I don't find that as, I don't find that attractive because that says a lot about your mentality as well.
	Like you should be comfortable in your own skin at some point because it's like when women be online and like to make them angles and make their butt look like something like yo.
	The gym pose, the gym pose?
	Just show who you really are so it could attract who really wants you, not who you not your salesman that you're trying to sell to the world.
	Like, be yourself.
	I feel like when you put out your real self, you get a real result, you get a real response.
	Yeah, they're trying to figure out the thing, chat.
	Here we go.
	Yeah, we are.
	I guess I'm about to be on salary, man.
	You got me hoping.
	Nah, though, but um, what do y'all?
	How do y'all feel about um, is the height thing really a big deal to y'all?
	Height, height, no, not for me.
	I think it is for me because, like, I like to wear heels.
	So, if I. That's everybody's go-to, the heels thing.
	Yeah, because like, how is it gonna work if I'm wearing heels and then I'm like towering over you?
	But I'm kind of like, I like that.
	I like that feeling.
	You know, you like it.
	How tall are you?
	I'm five, I'm five, four, like, five, four, five, three, five, four.
	I have a response for you.
	But, like, yes, I like, you know, my guys being like 5'5.
	I always say the same thing because I'm 5'5.
	I love it.
	I love short kids.
	People always ask me, like, why do I like tall men?
	Because I always go for tall men.
	I only say it because I want tall kids.
	So, like, okay, if I'm gonna be able to figure out the future, I'm gonna try a 50-50.
	You know, they're either gonna get be short because of me or they're gonna be tall because of their dad.
	So, yeah, I just in the middle.
	Yeah, a good height.
	At least, you know, if they're 5'9, at least they're a good height.
	Detroit.
	I feel it.
	I feel it.
	What about you?
	Height is the deal breaker?
	As long as they're taller than me.
	How tall are you?
	See, I got a little height on you.
	5'6.
	Oh, okay.
	But I won't never, I won't probably won't.
	I can like, I wouldn't be like, I will turn a guy down because he's tall.
	I wouldn't do that.
	If he's like, just happened to be tall, sure.
	But like, I don't like my short kings.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	I love that.
	Why do you like short dudes?
	Because you're like, no, I like the portion of them.
	Like, when you're hugging someone, not doing the whole hugging thing, you know?
	To get on her hands.
	Yes, like, I don't want to do all that reaching.
	Everything is to be one of them.
	I want right there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, it's literally just right there.
	And then when you cuddle, it's just like your body's just kind of formed together.
	Yeah.
	Travel size.
	Yeah.
	It makes sense.
	That's why I like short guys.
	Hey, shout out to the short dude.
	She's looking for y'all.
	Holla at it.
	A lot of short dudes be saying, I can't get girls.
	Get into the mic.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	A lot of short dudes be complaining about, you know, women don't want them and stuff like that.
	So there's women out there like me, definitely.
	That's what's up.
	That's what's up.
	But I think also women should also be open to being with short guys or at least a little bit taller than them.
	They should definitely consider it because you'll be surprised what kind of good men are out there.
	So how y'all feel about the 50-50?
	I think we ain't really getting into the conversation.
	Do y'all think a man should pay everything or it should be half?
	Honestly, I think it should be 50-50 because I don't think that men should have like, I don't, for me, I also like, I don't know.
	I just think that men put too much pressure on them trying to be that guy.
	And so like, I think trying for me, it's more like I have enough assertiveness to be able to say, like, it's fine.
	Let me do it.
	Like, you know, for us.
	Like, I like that.
	Like, I like to be able to.
	But you're not going to try to flex on them later, though.
	No, no, like, no.
	Because, like, I, like, when I do go on dates, you know, I'll even offer to go half and half.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Because I'm, like, I just want to be like, oh, just know that I'm not like, I'm not like, what do you say?
	Gold digger, I guess.
	Or like people that are just after money or people that, you know, those girls are like, oh, if you don't have money, you ain't good enough for me.
	Like, so y'all don't say, so how much does a man need to earn to be with y'all?
	Starting with Miss Bangs.
	A lot.
	What's a lot, Miss Bangs?
	Like, yearly?
	Yeah.
	I don't know because the economy is always changing.
	So right now, how much a man needs to make to date with you?
	How much you gotta make?
	Ooh, I don't know.
	I really don't know.
	A lot of money.
	Nah, you gotta get a good job.
	I don't know.
	I just gotta be comfortable.
	I really don't know.
	All right, $70,000 is good.
	No.
	More.
	Like $100,000.
	$100,000?
	Maybe more.
	You're tripping.
	How much?
	Half a million?
	Half a million is crazy.
	Maybe more.
	More.
	Are you being serious?
	Are you just being funny?
	No, I want to be comfortable and honestly, like, the economy still is out.
	But like you do OnlyFans, right?
	Yeah.
	Bro, those girls be making money.
	Yeah, but that's a whole other conversation.
	I don't know.
	I feel like OnlyFans, no offense, but I think people who make money from OnlyFans, they think money is so easy to garner because you get money from that route.
	So you expect other men to be able to make that.
	I'm saying, but not a lot of men, though.
	But most men who got to that level of income worked very hard to get there.
	So I think a lot of women who get into OnlyFans, but you can just basically just show up, show a little something, something, and make the earnings of a doctor or a lawyer or an athlete, they think that line of work equates them to someone who went to school for 10 or 8 years.
	It's really not the same thing.
	So I don't know.
	I think it's a false sense of value equivalence.
	It's like he went to school for 10 years.
	You just opened up OnlyFans and you got the same thing he got in a short amount of time.
	But that don't mean you're on the same level to demand that.
	So I don't know.
	I think it's just strange to expect $500,000 from a man.
	Can I respond to your 50-50?
	Go ahead.
	I think, well, personally, I think a man should pay for everything.
	But only if, I mean, it depends on the woman.
	Like, personally, I work four jobs where I did.
	I just quit one.
	But I don't mind being the one to step up when needed.
	But I feel like the kind of man that I would go after, the one that has kind of shares the more conservative values, the one that wants a high-value woman.
	I feel like I can be that high-value woman for him.
	And I also want to be a stay-at-home mom, so that's also what ties into it.
	So going back to also your income thing, I like, I don't care how much they make as long as we have enough to provide for our kids and for a steady house.
	But I personally think that, yeah, the man should pay for it.
	I feel like that's just kind of how, I mean, it used to be, right?
	Like.
	Yeah, a lot of things used to be a lot of ways.
	But, you know, I think with the economy, I think I see a lot of women who they'll get with a guy that got a lot of money and he'll divorce her and should take half.
	I think in today's time, it's more advantageous for a woman to contribute to something because when things go left, you have some equity in it.
	I see too many women who don't have any equity, anything, don't pay for any bills, just show up, and then when the man splits up, she wants half of his earnings.
	Like, you wasn't there when he was playing ball or shooting in the gym.
	So it's like, why do you think you need to get half of his earnings?
	And if you want to play that game, you need to pay for half of the things.
	Don't pay for nothing and inspect everything.
	That don't make sense.
	You have no equity in the conversation.
	I think it depends on the situation.
	Like what you said, like you have a good point, but I also think it depends on the situation because a lot of women, I mean, sorry, a lot of men do want women that are stay-at-home moms that are staying home and raising the kids or doing homeschool or whatever.
	And honestly, that is, that's a job.
	Like that, if women aren't doing that, they're going to hire somebody else to do it.
	I was a nanny for a very long time and I was paid very well.
	And if I wasn't doing that, the woman was going to be doing it.
	And I feel like there has to be some type of compromise or some type of agreement where it's like, okay, if you're staying home with the kids and you're doing all this labor, you're basic, you're not going to be an indentured servant.
	You're obviously going to have, you're going to earn some of mine because there's no way you're going to, I guess, commit your life to raising kids and staying at home all the time when you had the chance to have a career.
	But the man, say in this situation, hypothetically, the man said, no, no, no, I don't want you to have a career.
	I want you to stay at home and watch the kids.
	Okay, well, therefore, I'm not going to be an indentured servant.
	My work has to be paid for.
	Because if I were to be working, somebody else is going to have to do it.
	So if you're my wife, I have to pay you to take care of our kids?
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	I'm saying there has to be some type of agreement.
	Okay, I stay home and I raise the kids, but somehow there is.
	I'm gonna pay the bills.
	That's what I'm doing.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, yeah.
	But somehow there is a divorce or something happens.
	Okay, well, I just gave up my whole career.
	I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, like, now what?
	I'm, I have nothing.
	I didn't, I didn't have a career because my man told me to stay home and take care of the kids.
	No, I need some type of payment for that because I wasted all these years taking care of them.
	How can taking care of your children be a waste of years?
	It's your children.
	It's no, no, no, no.
	I'm saying if I'm not going to be doing it, somebody else is going to be doing it.
	That's why people have nannies.
	That's why people have babysitters.
	I get what you're saying.
	And people, if they're not doing it, if the nanny's not doing it, I'm doing it.
	And that's still labor.
	So what if the man has a nanny and a wife?
	So you don't have to do nothing.
	You still think you're entitled to the money when y'all split up?
	When the nanny is really doing everything?
	I don't know.
	It depends on the agreement they have.
	That's not my place to decide.
	That's their business.
	But I'm saying that I worked as a nanny for many years and I was paid very, very good because taking care of children is a great, great responsibility.
	And it takes two to manage a household, especially with children.
	Okay.
	What about y'all?
	What y'all think?
	She should pay for everything you think.
	You agree with that?
	Well, I'm a college student right now.
	So I know money is a sensitive topic.
	You might be back.
	I wouldn't expect them to pay for everything, but if we're dating, I would want to be like taking out on dates and have them pay first.
	But then as we continue to date, I wouldn't mind offering, oh, do you want me to pay?
	So I think it's just about being aware of the situation.
	Yeah, you got to reciprocate.
	I think it's nice when a woman wants to kick out some time.
	I think just having your hand out for everything is a turn off.
	Y'all seem like y'all.
	I think we're back.
	Do you know how to get StreamYard fixed?
	Huh?
	Reload the screen.
	Minimize that.
	Yeah, hit try again.
	So how long are you clicking on OnlyFans?
	What the fuck?
	How long you been doing OnlyFans?
	Reload?
	I don't know.
	Since like after the first episode I went on here, my first time.
	What was that?
	I don't know.
	Like 2023, I think.
	Oh, wow.
	Uh-oh.
	Is it working out for you?
	It's alright, but I do want to pursue more.
	Here, show me OBS.
	Skimmey OBS.
	More OnlyFans?
	No, I want to pursue more.
	I want to be a hustler, you know?
	I want to have lots of careers.
	I want to accomplish a lot.
	I want more than one thing.
	Yeah, I want to do lots of things.
	So what's your passion?
	Well, I did work with kids a lot.
	I love children.
	Me too.
	Yeah.
	I think I'm really good with kids.
	Think so?
	Yeah.
	What's your passion?
	I like kids too.
	But I like doing PR, like things related to social media.
	So that's what I'm trying to pursue with my major.
	Bet bet.
	What's your passion?
	I don't know.
	I'm still figuring it out, honestly.
	Like, I do work and I like the work that I do, but I am kind of in the phase of my life where I want to travel and be open to new places, people, to really dial in to know what I want to do.
	I don't really have like a, I guess, like working out, but I wouldn't consider that really a passion.
	I mean, why not?
	It keeps my like mentality going, like working out.
	Like, I need to always be like physical.
	Like a passion to be.
	Yeah.
	So we'll see.
	Come natural too.
	I think like what I do want to do in the near future, I do want to kind of on the side be like a spin cycle instructor.
	I think that'd be really fun because I love spin.
	Like spin cycling?
	Yeah.
	Oh, spin, the actual cycling.
	It's like a bike or something.
	I go to grit, but there's this, what's the most popular one?
	I don't know.
	No, no, no.
	It's like a soul cycle.
	Soul cycle, soul cycle.
	People need instructions on me.
	Like, you know?
	Oh, okay.
	Y'all got some questions for me?
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'm the only guy at the table.
	Oh, I have one.
	What was your worst dating experience or worst date?
	Oh, my worst date.
	Just with somebody that's rude.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's just not nice.
	Very loud, very aggressive.
	Ask me about money all day.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Just a woman who just don't have no decorum.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, I don't want no pushover women, but I don't like women that's, you know, just very vain.
	And then every time you ask them something, it's, I don't know.
	I like to see what type where a woman's mind is at.
	So I like to see if she got some type of depth.
	You know what I mean?
	I might ask you a left field question about physics or, you know, just to see where your head is at.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Not just the typical social media banter.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I don't like a woman that's disrespectful and just like that dumb blonde type of energy.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I don't like that.
	Why are you looking at me?
	No, no.
	Just make eye contact.
	But nah, ask me something else.
	You know, y'all, I'll be asking y'all some questions.
	No facts.
	How, okay, so you, where do you, where are you living currently?
	North Carolina.
	North Carolina.
	And do you spend a lot of time there or do you come to the West?
	No, I'll be over, I'll be on the East a lot.
	I came out here a few times for the show.
	I got a couple people I know out here, but for the most part, I'm on the East Coast.
	So it's a whole different world.
	Yeah, I was going to ask, have you dated over here and over there?
	And how is the dating difference?
	I haven't dated, but I've met women on the West Coast.
	Yeah.
	And I'm going to say that the ones that I've met was a little weird.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Where in the West Coast were you meeting them?
	What city specifically?
	I was in LA.
	There you go.
	But they're very, very liberal.
	You know what I mean?
	The ones I've met in a dating environment.
	Very, very liberal.
	They wanted my opinion on liberal topics that I really don't care about.
	On the first date?
	Man, yeah, man.
	You know what I mean?
	I met a real nice girl.
	We went to Venice Recent.
	She wanted to know how I felt about certain gender perspectives.
	And it's like, I don't want to talk about this, man.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Not on the first night.
	So I feel like women over here seem very, very tied to a lot of liberal views.
	Yeah.
	And they want to know how you feel about it.
	Going off of it.
	It's like a deal breaker, for real.
	Is that a deal breaker for you?
	Could you date someone who has a complete opposite political stance as you?
	Or marry, actually, is a better word.
	I don't know if I could because it's like, say if we, and I'm personally done with children, but if I might want to have a child, that might be an issue.
	Because it's like, okay, I believe this.
	And if you believe that, I don't want the child to be unevenly yoked and trying to find, you know, pick which side to go.
	So that might be a deal breaker of dating.
	No.
	But when it comes to joining lives, I think, yeah, definitely.
	So are you like, sorry?
	Are you conservative?
	Like conservative?
	Are you Christian?
	Or like, what do you mean?
	I mean, I was raised a Christian and I later on became a Muslim.
	I look at it like this.
	You can do what you want.
	I just don't want to deal with it.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I feel like I don't want to say something that's evil or good.
	I just feel like cause and effect.
	I feel like we live in a world where man and woman is the dynamic to create life.
	So if you want to go against that, that's your prerogative.
	But you're going against the grain of the vibration of the planet that we on.
	Not saying it's good, not saying it's bad.
	I don't agree with it.
	If you want to go against that social, spiritual grain, because that's how you feel, go ahead.
	But it just comes with a lot of upheaval.
	Like, you know what I'm saying?
	So I'm personally.
	Are you like the type of guy that would ask a girl's body count on the first date?
	No, because I feel like there's no way to really find that out.
	Right.
	So do I care if she's been with a bunch of guys?
	Absolutely.
	But not to be funny, but I don't believe a woman says, Yeah, I only got five dudes.
	It's like, okay, you know what I'm saying?
	Anything I can't prove, I'm not going to waste time trying to figure out.
	So, do you believe that she's a virgin?
	I do believe she's a virgin.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I do believe both of them are virgins.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But because of their culture, I know Asian culture is very, very structured.
	You know what I'm saying?
	She could be lying, but I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt because how they cultured.
	So, you want to get the girl that said, Oh, my body counts five.
	Like, you want to give her the benefit of the doubt?
	Depends on who she is.
	Most of the time, probably not.
	She's one of those girls on Instagram that take pictures in bikinis.
	I don't believe it.
	But my thing is this, though.
	I'm more concerned.
	I said this on the last show.
	I'm more concerned with the type of guys the woman dealt with in the past because to me, that tells me more about it.
	So, would you ask her that?
	Like, yeah, definitely.
	That's what I ask.
	I say, So, how was your last dude?
	What was he like?
	What was he into?
	Because that's going to tell me a lot.
	For example, say if I was talking to you, if you used to talking to dudes who just you say, do this, do that, do that.
	To me, that's let me know you're going to expect that from me.
	So, I don't expect anything.
	No, I'm just saying in general.
	For example, like some women, some women deal with guys that might be hyper-masculine or extremely passive.
	So, if they're used to those dynamics, they're going to expect that from me.
	So, who she dealt with before me to me means more than the amount of guys she dealt with.
	Yeah, true, true.
	Like, I think a lot of people, I think women also like change, like try to experience like different perspectives on men's.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, masculine, try out masculine men and try out other different types of men so they can like see where they're at, like, when it comes to like what they like and what that's how you grow your type, isn't it?
	Yeah, because it's like if I if you was dealing with a dude who used to deal with a bunch of strippers, wouldn't that change when you feel intimidated to a degree?
	Because you might not know what he expects from you.
	Because, like, if you keep dealing with a bunch of strip type of women, stripper type of women, what do you expect from me moving forward?
	Because I'm nothing like her.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So, I think the type of people we date says a lot more than the amount we date.
	Honestly, yeah, no, I would, I would honestly, if that was a question was asked about me, I would have gotten up from that table and walked out.
	Because I'm like, we are living in the present, let's live in the present.
	So, you saying, so a man can't ask you about your exes?
	No, I don't want to talk about it.
	That's in the past.
	Let's move on.
	Let's move on.
	See, I'm going to think you're hiding something.
	Yeah, but that's my business.
	Why are you at it?
	I just met you.
	Why are you going with that?
	I mean, we're getting to know each other.
	Yeah, but sometimes like you just like, you know, let's my ex, you know, like, we should talk about what we want.
	Yeah, and I think a lot of girls don't like it when guys talk about their exes.
	I hate that.
	Oh, I hate that.
	So, it's like, why should I talk about my ex if I don't want you talking about your ex?
	I hate that.
	That's what I'm going to say.
	So much for all this opening up emotionally, huh?
	No, but like, no one has to talk about your past.
	I love it.
	I'm not going to do Discord.
	I don't know if we have the bandwidth for Discord, to be honest.
	We can try.
	Our internet is absolutely fucked.
	I don't know if Andrew can hear us, but I think he can.
	I think he's talked.
	Yeah, I can hear you guys.
	So, apparently, we have do we have a video on Andrew?
	Yeah, you can re-enable StreamYard.
	Yeah.
	Apparently, there's a little chip-looking.
	That's well, yeah.
	I mean, that's totally fine.
	If the internet bogs down too bad or whatever, we still have three shows left.
	We can just do it that way.
	Yeah, we'll let it go for a little bit.
	I had to, so apparently, Cox is down statewide.
	Cox internet.
	It's not just us, down statewide.
	I figured that out.
	We switched over to our backup internet, which is not ideal, optimal, not ideal, but we'll try to continue.
	But in the event that there's any further hiccups, just so we preserve our bandwidth, Andrew, we're going to have to just completely exit out of Discord because it's just going to consume too much.
	No problem, and we'll send the raid over from the crucible because things happen.
	Yeah.
	And I was trying to get it, it was working for a bit, then it stopped because I was trying to get back our hardwired internet, but it's just out statewide.
	So we're back to our secondary internet.
	I do apologize to everybody who was on the loading screen for, I don't know, it took us maybe 20 or 30 minutes, but we are back.
	We do have one or two chats that I would like to get to while we're here.
	We have Lucas.
	Thank you for the Streamlabs donation, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	He says, no, I don't ambulance, Chase.
	I'm a commercial real estate attorney in New York City.
	I was a giga chat.
	Now I'm just stuck with a midlife vanity crisis.
	But I still bench 300 pounds and he is still the prize.
	Commercial real estate attorney.
	He's just being humble.
	He does handle DUIs, murder.
	I need you.
	And is he trolling?
	Got three years probation.
	Some other stuff.
	So, Lucas, W's in the chat for Lucas, guys.
	We have Just Gerald.
	Yo, can you open up a tab?
	Just type in Frontier Internet.
	Find us.
	I'm going to do a free promo for Frontier Internet.
	Just Gerald says this sudden stream drop was brought to you by Cox Internet.
	Put your faith in Cox and blah, blah, blah, blank, blank, blank.
	Yeah, you're Cox, your friend in the digital age.
	Fucking Cox, absolute dog shit internet.
	It was good.
	It's been good recently, but I don't know what's been going on today.
	Yeah, as soon as Frontier is available, I'm switching immediately.
	Is there like Starlink?
	Is that a thing?
	I don't know.
	Is that good for streaming?
	It's again, bro.
	What happened?
	A fucking Cox with the Matrix attack.
	Andrew, can you still hear us?
	Andrew, can you hear us?
	Hello?
	Andrew?
	I can't so far, yeah.
	Okay, we're on our end.
	It's looking like we just totally dropped our stream.
	Listen, kill the Discord.
	Yeah.
	It's bogging you down.
	We're just going to send the raid over, and I'll see you next show.
	Hey, just wait, Andrew, hang tight for just a sec.
	Can you still hear us, Andrew?
	I can, yeah.
	Okay, we're going to hear.
	But we're glitching a bit.
	Like our feed that we're sending you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm bogging you down, bro.
	No, I don't think it's you.
	I just think here, just hang tight for a little bit.
	Okay.
	No problem.
	If it continues for another like five minutes or so, we'll just have to unfortunately, very unfortunately, call it a, I guess, we'll see.
	Let's see how it goes.
	It's going to resolve itself any minute now.
	Are you thinking about wrapping your stream, Andrew, or what are you going to do?
	Yeah, I mean, what's going on is I can literally see what's happening on the Discord side.
	And it is, it is, the connection is dropping, then coming back very quickly, then dropping.
	It just looks like we're actually bogging you down.
	That's not normal at all.
	I actually think it would be better for the whatever podcast tonight to just send over the big raid at peak here.
	What if we tried this, Andrew?
	What if, because sometimes these internet issues tend to resolve themselves within an hour or two, would you want to hop back on stream in like an hour or two?
	How does that sound?
	Yep, when it resolves, I'll hop back on.
	Yeah, we'll hop again in a couple hours.
	Yeah, I'll shoot you a text.
	I'll check in on the status of the internet.
	I think maybe just for now that's the best thing.
	I think that's the best thing, Andrew.
	We'll just give you a call.
	You'll see a raid here in the next few minutes.
	Thanks, guys.
	It was very nice to meet all of you, bangs, even though we had our back and forth.
	I hold no ill will whatsoever.
	And we'll see you next time.
	Bye.
	We'll call you back later, Andrew.
	Wait, who is that?
	We did that this year.
	Merry Christmas.
	Damien, do you know?
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Damien, do you know how to just completely control tasks or what's it called?
	Windows Task Manager out of Discord?
	I just want to shut the whole thing down.
	You sure?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You got the task manager?
	All right.
	Just be very careful.
	Obviously, we don't want to close out anything else, but just completely close out.
	Can you bring it over just so I can see?
	Put it where the chat is.
	Sorry, guys, we're getting back on track here.
	The chat is.
	Yeah, just show me where the chat is.
	Just drag it over.
	I mean, no, just where the Streamlabs tab is on the main monitor.
	Just drag it over.
	Oh, that's a bit too big.
	Loser man.
	Minimize OBS.
	Just so I can see it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So why don't you hear?
	Yeah, get rid of Discord.
	Do you know how to do it?
	Here, let me just do it.
	Is it just me or does anyone else wear a touch his beard?
	What'd you say?
	What'd you say?
	Is it just me, or am I the only one that wants to touch his beard?
	That's all you.
	No, no, that's only because it looks so full.
	Like it looks brushed out.
	It looks brushed out.
	You know what I mean?
	It looks so clean.
	I heard it was an earthquake a couple days ago.
	Oh, yeah.
	It was in NorCal.
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought it was in the house.
	Is Slow considered NorCal?
	Yeah, because it's like a little higher up.
	I think they're humble in California.
	So it's funny, right?
	I looked up something the other day.
	They said that California has the most cheaters per state.
	That makes sense.
	But you know what's funny?
	They said the most faithful state was New Jersey.
	New Jersey.
	More than like, more than like South, like the mid-states?
	They have four states from Cali.
	It's like the best, most states with the cheaters.
	I believe in California.
	Well, there's also a lot more people in California than more people, more options.
	More things to do.
	More things to do in California.
	So you'd like to see that.
	More people.
	Like clubbing and stuff.
	It's definitely a party city.
	You know what I mean?
	Like party here.
	You think it's hard to date in California?
	Yes, definitely.
	100%.
	It's too like, it's such a party city.
	Like, everyone's partying.
	Yeah.
	You haven't been to the East Coast?
	Yeah, I have.
	You haven't dated men from the East Coast?
	No.
	No.
	Y'all just date with Cali guys?
	No, I knew Midwesterns.
	I will.
	Yeah, the guy I was with for five years, I dated him when I was in Nebraska.
	Midwest, where?
	Huh?
	Where?
	Nebraska.
	Omaha.
	Wow.
	So y'all never date y'all.
	How y'all feel about long distance dating?
	Do you think that's a possibility?
	No, you have to have a lot of trust.
	Yeah, definitely.
	That's why I broke up with my ex.
	It's not even trust.
	Like, I just don't think if you're physically next to each other, like, it's not going to happen.
	I don't know.
	I'm an eaty person.
	I did it for a year.
	How far away were we?
	Respect.
	Tennessee.
	I don't know.
	I think these days it's more.
	I think people are more open to it now because with the internet, you're not limited to just who's around you.
	Because sometimes your person may not be in your area.
	No, no.
	But also, when people cheat when you're in the same city, they're going to cheat when you're not even in the same state.
	So it's going to be a lot easier.
	But if they're going to cheat, they're going to cheat whether they're around the corner.
	That's true, but I just think it's easier when you guys aren't in close proximity.
	I think sometimes you're dating out of town, you're forced to get to know the person who they are because you got to talk.
	I think sometimes you're too close, you can get caught up in advancing you have seen each other and just, you know, the surface level connection.
	But you realize y'all don't even know each other because y'all just went straight.
	It seemed like today people just eat, go out to eat, and they start getting intimate.
	That's how that's not really how you build a relationship.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I agree because that's how I got really like that.
	Man was like my best friend, and we only got really close because all we did was talk all the time.
	And we have to, like, you just have to.
	I have a question.
	What's up?
	Do you think girls can be friends with guys?
	No.
	I don't.
	I think we can.
	As long as there's strict boundaries.
	I think they are as long as you're able to establish boundaries.
	No, I have a guy best friend, so I think we cannot because I've been best friends with him for like would you let your boyfriend date have girlfriend?
	It depends if they've had those friends before, but as long as if you make new friends after we start dating, I think that's a little weird.
	Okay.
	But if they, if you knew them before we were dating, then like I'm not going to tell you who and who not to be friends with or who to be around.
	I think when you're single, it's cool, but I think once you get into a serious relationship, I think it has to tone down a lot.
	Exactly.
	Like, would you like, would you like let your boyfriend, like, let's say his girl best friend came up to him and hugged him?
	Would that be okay?
	I think it's fine.
	Just no boundaries.
	Is it like just a quick hook or a hole?
	Yeah, like it was like it was like a hamburger.
	Oh, that's weird.
	That's weird.
	That's weird.
	What about the under?
	Like the no, that's weirder.
	Like just a side hug, just like this better.
	Like, hey, what's up?
	Okay.
	Like, that them up.
	Why do you have to hug them?
	But it's like, if they've been hugging, yeah, like, if they've been hugging beforehand, like before like before you guys were dating, I think it's fine.
	And then if you have an issue being vulnerable, bring that up.
	Hey, I don't feel like it's okay.
	Or it makes me a little weird with you doing that.
	I think the only way they could be friends is if both of you find each other unattractive.
	Right.
	But even then, when you get to know someone, their personality, like, I don't know.
	I feel like eventually someone falls for the other person.
	And at that point, you can't be friends.
	Yeah, because people trauma dump, and that kind of brings in the whole connection part.
	Yeah.
	I understand you.
	I can't.
	I've already, like, I've had guy friends and I can't do it.
	And I've had men who have girlfriends and I can't do it.
	Yeah.
	Like, with your guy best friend, like, has anyone told you that, like, if he was dating someone, like, if he was dating someone, I would respect the girlfriend and like not do sus activity.
	And I would focus on her.
	What if she told you, like, oh, I don't want you being friends with my boyfriend?
	I think that's insecure, but like, okay, so you would have to do that.
	Also, that I've gone through that before.
	My one of my best guy friends that I like grew up with and everything, his mom gave my mom maternity clothes when she was pregnant with him.
	And then he got a girlfriend and she didn't want like us hanging out anymore and we didn't hang out anymore.
	And then we and then we finally, sorry, we finally reconnected again after they broke up.
	And honestly, it happens.
	I have to respect that.
	If I was in a relationship, would you consider her insecure for that?
	Well, if I was in a relationship and I saw, because he and I were really, really close.
	So you would be like, you would hug him, like you'd do that, like the no, not like that, but we were really close emotionally.
	And like, you know, we grew up, so we like knew a lot of stuff about each other.
	And we were very close, like, yeah, emotionally.
	Like, we, you know.
	But no, yeah, I could understand, I could see how that could make her upset.
	And if I was in that situation, I, you know, I'd do the same thing, honestly.
	So you don't blame her.
	Do you believe that, because you weren't here, but do you believe that girls can be friends with guys?
	Or like have like a platonic relationship?
	Like, just friends.
	So, yeah, absolutely.
	Okay.
	I feel like it also depends if the girl best friend is like actively trying to get to know the girlfriend.
	Because I know she's like present, like, yeah.
	Trying to best friends with the girl too.
	Girl best friends who like are like, oh, your girlfriend, your girlfriend is like really controlling, like, trying to break them up.
	I think it's about respect, you know?
	I think it's yeah, it's about respect.
	Like, I have, I guess, I mean, not a lot, but I have a few amount of guy friends.
	They're all such cuties to me, you know, like, but they're not.
	Like, I wouldn't see them that way.
	And if their girls decided that they didn't want to talk to me, then honestly, yeah, so be it.
	Yeah, it's my relationship.
	I'm not going to.
	I don't believe that guys can be friends with girls or switch around.
	I just believe it.
	I just can't be selfish and be like, no, you're my friend.
	You can't hang.
	Like, that's his girl, you know?
	Like, that's their love interest.
	I'm not fulfilling them in the way that that girl is fulfilling them, you know?
	She's providing more than I could provide.
	But do you guys think to like being with like as a guy?
	Would you say that if you have girlfriends like that are friends?
	Like, do you believe that guys just want to fuck them?
	That's why they're friends with them?
	I think that can help.
	This is the thing women got to realize.
	All men want to fuck you, but that doesn't mean he's going to act on it.
	I think women got to stop acting like my guyfriend would never.
	Yeah, he would.
	But that don't mean that's what he wants to do.
	But it's nature.
	Like, if you're an attractive, if I got female friends, I crack.
	We don't mess around, but I would.
	But that doesn't, but I'm, but I don't, I can live without it.
	It's not like I gotta do it, but sex and intimacy is not hard.
	But they do think about it.
	Like, I mean, you're with men.
	Yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, if you're an attractive woman and we cool, it's gonna cross my mind.
	But I think it's just a matter of having the ability to tone that down.
	But to pretend like, oh, my friend would never, yeah, he would.
	He just mature enough not to act on it.
	But I think women lie to themselves when they think, oh, my Godfriend don't like me like that.
	You crazy as hell.
	He'll do it.
	He just can still be with your friends, be friends with you despite doing that.
	But don't think he won't.
	Yes, he would.
	Yeah, and I think this also like kind of leads into the conversation of like women have the power to like, make that, are in control of that happening.
	Because, as you said, like men, like the guy friend, he like he definitely would hook up with you.
	So yeah, that's a woman is the one that's in power, like in charge and the one that's in power of like.
	Okay like, are we friends or are we gonna?
	Are we gonna be like something more than that?
	You know, if she likes him.
	You know what I'm saying.
	But all men would, would crack their friends yeah, just like.
	Sometimes they just don't act on it basically, but he does.
	Yeah, because sometimes, sometimes having a female friend get you girls yeah, you know what I'm saying.
	You just pop out with your female friend.
	She cute, you know not other girls want to talk to you just because she with you.
	So, or you could have the female friend go up to girls and be like oh like, talk good about you.
	Basically, I know guys yeah, that happens a lot at bars yeah, clubs or whatever.
	Wait, wanna do what?
	Like if you have a like a girlfriend, like a friend who's a girl, and then they go up to certain people like oh, you see that one over there yeah, like he's really cute.
	I heard like like talk them up.
	Basically yeah oh, that's oh okay, that's nice.
	I like that little pick and roll.
	Okay, I never did that.
	I know I definitely played a role of my friends like guy friends, like they're.
	I don't think that'll help.
	That'll work for us, though I think if a dude went up to another girl like yo, my man yo, he's pretty, she ain't gonna give a damn what you talk about.
	That's true too.
	I don't think I don't think most women like it when the friend does it for you.
	It's like yeah yeah like, have you ever had like one of your exes or situationships ever go for your friend after you're?
	It's over, thank god no, but I fear for the day that relationships I've had it does, because that's that means.
	Like situationships is like I, what I take the term is it's like someone you're just talking to and you're talking with them like like every day.
	That's a situation shape and like you're building that like date, you're getting to that dating status, basically that's why I think that's what it is.
	So it's really important that like I know that I thought because, mind you, you introduced them and stuff like all right.
	So guys, I believe, believe the internet issues should be fixed absent another COX Communications internet outage.
	I do apologize for the interruption.
	It should be a hundred percent fixed right now the connection looks good on our end.
	Let me just ask the chat though.
	Chat refresh the stream sounds like only uh.
	Is it okay, guys?
	Chat, is it okay?
	I think it should be fixed now.
	Uh, I think we'll be able to get Andrew back in here pretty soon.
	But one in the chat if it is good.
	One in the chat if the stream is looking good.
	Two in the chat if you are still having any sort of if there's any lag, audio issues, video issues.
	Oh, you've got to be fucking kidding me, bro.
	Oh, my goodness.
	What happened?
	Are you serious?
	That's massive L. Major L.
	I don't think they want to see it.
	Bro.
	It's Bang's full.
	Yep.
	No, it really is.
	Somebody told me I have a negative entity following me.
	It's definitely.
	I'm not even lying.
	It's definitely a negative program.
	What the fuck?
	January 4th.
	It's coming up.
	Oh, it's back up, guys.
	Oh, it's back.
	Is it back?
	Oh, it's back again, boys.
	Holy shit.
	Absolutely scuffed.
	This is for Cox internet.
	That's the fucking internet.
	Oh, my God.
	What the fuck?
	What's that?
	Dude, fucking Cox, you're dog shit.
	I didn't even know that.
	Can I ask Carson real quick about the internet?
	That was me, bro.
	I haven't heard of it in so long.
	So when it goes down and you're like, oh, it's down in sound, that means it's like cut off completely everywhere.
	Like no one can see us?
	Or it's still streaming somewhere.
	Because you're saying Discord, and then I'm getting confused.
	It could be streaming, but like, we're still recording the episodes.
	So like when this goes up, the playback, maybe not on YouTube, but whatever.
	The people seeing it live can't see it, but the people that will see it on YouTube later will be.
	Sometimes YouTube will cut those parts out, but like we're still recording the full, like everything that's going on, even during the outages, it's still recording.
	So if whatever we put out on Spotify, for example, everything will go on Spotify.
	I don't know how it's going to look on YouTube.
	Sometimes it'll like basically remove chunks of stuff.
	So we will see.
	See the glitches?
	Yo, chat.
	One in the chat if it's okay now.
	One in the chat if it's okay now.
	We're going to get right back into the show, hopefully.
	I also, can we pull up, pull up the window tab?
	I'm going to do a free, I'm going to do a free sponsorship for shout out for Frontier Internet.
	Guys, go to frontier internet.com.
	Fuck Cox Communications.
	They've got a fucking monopoly in our area.
	Well, they used to until Frontier came in with a big swinging dick and then they're like, fuck you, Cox.
	So, all right, guys, this is a fucking free promo.
	They're not paying me for this shit.
	Promo for Frontier.
	Scroll up to the top.
	Frontier Internet.
	I don't care what if you're in a different area and you there's a choice besides Cox get whatever the other choices Frontier internet.
	I don't care what, whatever it is.
	Anyways, I'm going to get, um, I don't know.
	I'm going to see about Starlink after this because that was ridiculous.
	Very unfortunate.
	Very unfortunate.
	have a backup internet people are saying brian why don't you get we have a backup internet and it's a like verizon 5g or something like I don't know what it is exactly.
	Whatever.
	Who cares?
	I'm going to look into Starlink.
	Okay.
	Let's get back into the show.
	Let's get back into the show.
	We'll try to call Andrew a little bit later.
	I do want to give it a bit of time to figure itself out.
	So, okay, we're going through the notes.
	We're going to Chloe.
	Is it okay if she answers my question I asked earlier about what?
	The friendship, like when like if situation ships or your ex-boyfriend has gone with your friends after the situation was over.
	I wanted to hear what she had to say, though.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay, I'll show you really quick.
	But basically, he like messed with her and then I brought it up.
	I was like, oh, I'm not comfortable with it.
	And then he continued to be friends with her.
	I was like, okay.
	And then, yeah, it was just bad.
	Well, I stopped talking to him, though.
	Don't worry.
	Okay.
	So getting back into the notes, time period to ask someone on the first date.
	I think we were, I think, pretty much got through that entire conversation.
	You also wanted to talk about age gaps.
	The age gap between 21 and 24 is way different from 26 and 29.
	So what exactly is your thing on age gaps, Chloe?
	Just for that specific, like 21 versus 24 versus 24 year old is too old to be dating a 21 year old?
	Yes, because the life experience that you have, generally speaking, everybody has their own experience and timeline.
	But once you turn 24, you're done with college.
	You're like into a year of paying your own bills, a year of working and everything versus 21.
	How long y'all spending in college?
	I don't know.
	Some people can't be done at 21 with college.
	And even better.
	But usually 21 years old, they just turned 21, especially in America.
	There's a lot.
	They're still in college.
	They're still learning a lot about themselves, about others.
	And I think 24 is dating somebody who is 24 is such a major gap in experience that I believe they should experience themselves versus, say, 26 to 29.
	You've been out of college for a few years.
	You've worked a few years.
	You can, what's the word?
	What's the word?
	Like connect a lot easier because you've been years into your work experience, career, everything.
	And obviously, this is me as a person.
	Career is important in addition to everything else I've said.
	So for me, I think if I was dating, first of all, I'm not dating somebody younger than me.
	But I think if somebody was 26 and 29, that would make way more sense to me than 21 and 24.
	That's my thoughts on it.
	Anybody else here agree that 21 and 24 is too big of an age gap?
	Me?
	No.
	You have objections there?
	No, I agree with Chloe.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	You have objections if there was anybody else think that's too much of an age gap?
	I don't.
	I don't.
	I don't think that's.
	I think that's a great, a great experience gap because at 24, you're still not really old like that.
	And you're fresh removed from what the 21-year-old is going through.
	So you're still relatable to them, but you're not so old that you can't connect to them on a main level.
	So I think that's a great age gap.
	I think they can help each other a lot.
	I think for that, in that area, I totally understand where you're coming from.
	For me, if I was dating a 21-year-old and I was talking about my boss was so terrible, she made me cry.
	She is not terrible.
	She does not make a difference.
	Oh, you were dating a younger guy.
	I think it's a different way.
	Yeah, that way is different.
	We're not connecting on the same thing.
	But I think a man, if a woman's 24 and a 21-year-old man, yes.
	Yeah.
	And it still depends, but for the most part, I agree.
	But a 24-year-old man, I think, can date a 21-year-old.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I think that's a healthy age gap because he can put her up on game, but he ain't too much older though till she feels like that's a father.
	Yeah.
	You know, it's like she looks up for him more than it's like, you know, you're my big brother type.
	You know what I'm saying?
	We'll get into the, we'll get into some of the age gap stuff a little bit later, but we can add that.
	You said dating apps are great for lining up dates, but takes a big part of getting to know a person away.
	If you want to date your type, you have to become your types type.
	So those are two different things.
	Dating apps, okay.
	If you want to date your type, you have to become your types type.
	I am not my types type.
	I can say that right now with great confidence.
	What's your types type?
	So physically speaking, like buzz cut tattoos, I am not my types type.
	That's totally okay.
	I see.
	Totally get it, but right so the guys that I've dated, I've been going for more like confidence, um, consideration, spatial awareness, spatial awareness.
	It's a unique one, it's a unique one.
	Do you think that's the downside of social media when it comes to male and female that it has made us not appreciate what we normally wouldn't get?
	Like, we're all trying to search for like the home run.
	Like you said, you feel like you're not your type type.
	It's like I think that's what social media did.
	It's like, well, Chris Brown is right there.
	So-and-so is right there.
	I can just click on it.
	It's like, I think it just made us forget just the everyday person and try to just go to the exact epitome of what we want.
	It goes back to what she was saying about like how back then they were only able to swing in like two baddies, but now it's like 100 baddies in it.
	So, yeah.
	Physically.
	And I wanted to add, I feel like also now too, it's like everybody is so used to instant pleasure and instant gratification where it almost seems like, and this goes for both men and women.
	I'm not just saying men, but sometimes not certain things.
	Okay, I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes things aren't enough for everybody.
	Like, I feel like it's all the time where it's not enough.
	Like, no matter what you have, you can have it all.
	You can have the perfect relationship.
	You can have everything.
	But at the same time, it's not enough for them.
	Everyone's looking for something that they can't have, you know?
	Because we always got another option with the internet.
	It's always somebody better.
	There's always somebody rich.
	There's always a girl that looks better.
	It's like we're not satisfied.
	There's always a lot of people.
	Yeah, that's exactly what I'm trying to say.
	And I think that swiping has made that an issue too.
	Like, oh, I don't want that.
	I've literally, and I said this on another show.
	I've literally seen girls in the club act like they're swiping.
	It's like, no, you're a real life.
	You can't just swipe a person away from you.
	Like, they're like, oh, get out of it.
	It's like that swipe mentality.
	Even when you look at that balloon dating show, I think dating apps are becoming reality.
	It's like they're trying to turn reality into a dating app.
	Now you go and see a show with just a balloon pop.
	It's just everything is being turned into a swipe culture in reality instead of just getting to know somebody.
	So it's just like, yeah, yeah, I think that's why like when social media is like, you have so many more options.
	That's why you have like cheating has gotten so much easier now.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like as you have access to the internet.
	And I wanted to say too, it's like so different when it's like, obviously, it's adulthood and childhood, but I remember being a child and like literally getting crushes on like my desk partner, you know, because it's like they're right there.
	I'm like talking to them.
	I'm like attracted to their personality and the way they act.
	And it's now it's like it's just based off look at looks.
	And I know it sounds superficial, but when I was younger, it's always, it's, it had always been about personality and like, you know, like the way they act, the way their mannerisms are.
	It didn't really matter.
	Like, honestly, I had the worst taste when I was in high school.
	And now I feel like the older I've gotten, it's like I feel a little bit more superficial, you know?
	Like, I so maybe I had good taste back then.
	I care more about looks because I feel like I don't really go out too much and I don't see like a lot of guys.
	I'm usually mostly on Tinder and Hinge.
	Like, you know, just like not basic, it's not like I can see their personality.
	I'm just basing them off a freaking picture they posted, you know?
	We're going to move on to the next notes here.
	While I was gone, somebody said something about a beard.
	Who said that?
	Was it you?
	What did you say?
	You wanted to what?
	Touch his beard?
	No.
	Your beard.
	You want to touch my beard?
	Yeah, because it just, you were like holding it and it just looks so it looks so full.
	I just want to run my fingers through it.
	Okay.
	No, because it just looks so clean and like it's look sauce.
	I mean, that's what I was thinking.
	Oh my God.
	I had an intrusive thought and I said it out loud.
	I apologize.
	Next question.
	Hey, it's a combo.
	Hey, hey, all right.
	Thank you.
	I guess the beard's looking okay.
	All right.
	Appreciate it though.
	Thank you, Darkavia.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so let's get into Ashley, your notes.
	You were engaged at 19, Ashley.
	Yeah.
	You got a dog, a car, apartment, and he did what?
	What do you mean?
	I'm prompting.
	Like what happened?
	Yeah, that was a prompt.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	To cut a very long story short, I fell in love when I was 19, and I always wanted to be a mom, and I've always wanted to get married young.
	So when the opportunity presented itself in our relationship to get married, we kind of went for it because when you're young, you know, you just do things like that.
	And I moved out.
	I didn't tell my parents I was leaving.
	I wrote them a three-page letter and I left.
	And I got lonely, so I got a dog.
	And then we needed a new car.
	So we got a car, put it under my name, got an apartment.
	We moved like an hour away.
	And then we were living in the, well, we were living in an apartment.
	I was still working two jobs.
	And then he quit his job, but we only moved over there because he got a job over there.
	And so I was working to provide for what we now had to pay for.
	And while I was doing that, he was cheating on me.
	So I.
	Yeah, so you guys were engaged.
	You moved out at 19.
	You guys had a dog, car, apartment.
	But he didn't just cheat on you once.
	He cheated on you multiple times.
	Is that correct?
	Multiple.
	With different women or just one woman?
	Oh, different women.
	Different women.
	But you went, you knew the girl.
	I only knew her because I went looking, like, after I found out who he was cheating on me with.
	All right.
	Were they actually like, like, was it like intercourse?
	Carnal knowledge.
	Okay, yeah.
	Yeah, but some cheating is like DMs and stuff.
	Yeah.
	He was P and the V. Was it P and the V?
	P and the V?
	From what I know, two of them were, but other times, like, he would just talk to people on the side.
	Sure.
	There was other sorts of cheating too.
	Yeah.
	And you found out he sent with the high school girl.
	Well, wait, like the girl he knew from high school, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	He tried to father her baby.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Like he was trying to get her pregnant?
	No, no, no.
	She already had a baby.
	And so when I reached out to her, like to see, like I wanted her side of the story.
	And she was like, yeah, he like takes me and my baby out like on dates.
	And he's like telling me that he could step up and be a father figure and all this stuff while I was at home.
	Oh, I want to go to jail.
	And you found out he was sending letters, like written, like written.
	He never got engaged because he joined the military.
	And when he was in boot camp, he was sending me letters, and he was also sending other women letters.
	Really?
	Did you stay with him?
	You know, I don't believe.
	Okay, I don't believe in giving up on people that I love, but I tried to make it work after.
	It's a real woman there.
	Stays by your side even.
	Well, like, I picked him out after I found out, but after, like, I mean, I dedicated a lot of time to this man, and I like wanted to give him the, not the benefit of the doubt, but I just didn't want to give up on something I spent so much time on.
	Do you have like a three-strike rule as well?
	No, I mean, after we got back together and I realized he wasn't going to change, I let it go.
	And you said that, let's see here.
	You recently, this year, got ghosted by a different man out of the blue who was the love of your life.
	Yeah, he still is.
	Still?
	Huh?
	Wait.
	How long were you dating him, I guess?
	I hate the term situation shit, but I guess that's what it really ended up being.
	But I mean, would you consider I met his family and his, like, I stayed with Adam.
	Wait, so hold on.
	When did you meet him?
	We met last year in May.
	And then you saw him for how long?
	We were seeing each other for three days before it hit a year.
	So like May of 2024?
	Yeah, to like, yeah.
	When's the last time you saw him in person?
	In February.
	I flew to go see him.
	Oh, it was long distance.
	It was long distance.
	I see.
	Was he in Nebraska?
	No.
	When's the last time you talked to him?
	Funny story.
	No.
	I texted him last in May and he just never responded.
	Last May?
	Yeah, I didn't want it to end.
	I didn't know it was going to end and then it just ended.
	Wait, so he ghosted you?
	Yes.
	So you, and you guys had been dating for how long?
	Well, I met him in May, and then we had been talking for a while, and we saw each other for the first time three months after.
	And then about, I've saw him in person maybe like five or six times.
	Okay.
	And would you always fly to him?
	So he's actually from California.
	But the first time he came back home, because he's also in the military.
	And he came back home for a little bit.
	I saw him and he came to LA.
	I met his mom.
	We hung out.
	And then he came back in August.
	I met his sisters because one of them got married.
	And then he came back.
	Well, he got a mortar cycle accident in November.
	So he was kind of crippled for a little while.
	So he came back home and his hometown's eight hours away from where I live.
	So I drove eight hours to go see him after Christmas, and then in February I planned to, he was supposed to get out in January, but since the accident, it got pushed back to April, so.
	So I flew to go see him in February.
	Okay, and that's the last time you saw him in person?
	That was the last time I saw him in person.
	And they were both in the Army?
	Yes.
	Well, you saw him in the hospital?
	No, no, no.
	I saw him after he got out and everything.
	He flew back home because it was his cousin.
	Okay, I see.
	And then you guys, but after you saw him in person, you guys were still communicating by text or whatever?
	Yeah, we would talk every single day.
	So when's the last time you actually heard from him?
	You said May?
	Yeah, May.
	Was there like a breakup conversation or just everything normal?
	And then you send a message and he just never responds?
	Well, towards like the end of April, he had called me and told me he was no longer getting out in April.
	And he said he was not going to get out till October.
	Long distance, I mean, we would have been doing it for almost a year, so it was kind of, I mean, it's hard.
	I want my person to be here with me, but I loved him, so I love him.
	So I was doing whatever it took.
	And I don't know.
	I had this feeling like I just need to take a step back because we weren't officially dating, but we basically were there without the title.
	And I just, he wasn't giving me the title like I wanted.
	And I didn't want to push for it because, I don't know, men don't like to be pushed, but I just didn't want to.
	So basically, what ended up happening was we had a conversation after that phone call.
	And I told him, look, I love you, but I'm going to take a step back because I feel like that's, you know, I don't want to hold you back.
	I didn't know what I was going to hold him back from.
	I just didn't want to hold him back from anything.
	And we came to a mutual agreement that when he came back in October, we would try to date.
	Oh, so you initiated a break?
	No.
	I mean, that's how it sounds like to me.
	I mean, it was.
	I guess yes, but I didn't want it to be a break.
	And we would still end.
	Wait, who initiated?
	You initiated the condo?
	Yes.
	So you initiated a break, but you didn't want to break?
	No, because he was.
	He was moving in a way that you felt like he should.
	Yes.
	He was not answering me right away.
	It was like 24 hours.
	He wouldn't respond.
	And I brought it up because we're not dating.
	And I don't know.
	I feel like this weird position when you're not dating someone officially.
	And I feel like nagging at them.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It was just a little situation.
	You can't.
	Yeah, you can't.
	Yeah.
	So it was just a weird situation.
	And so I told him, but after that, we spent a whole month talking exactly the same.
	Like, absolutely nothing changed.
	And then one day he just.
	Y'all was intimate?
	Yes.
	Carnal knowledge?
	Carnal knowledge?
	No, I don't think that's a mess up.
	I mean, I'm going to be honest, if you give your body up without the, once you give your body without the officially, you my girl, you playing with fire.
	Because he, like, I don't have nothing to work with.
	You take away his incentives.
	Yeah.
	I mean, a lot of things.
	It's like, you know, herpes.
	If you're not with her and you're not together, you did that with him.
	Yeah.
	I set yourself up for failure.
	I really loved him.
	I really do.
	You need to get away from the army cast.
	Folks with Coast Guards.
	I'd be very careful with Chlamydia.
	What are you saying?
	Sorry, I don't know.
	No, but HIV is still around.
	Although that's been combated fairly well with medicine.
	Yeah.
	After he ghosted me, I kind of lost it.
	UTIs.
	It's not necessarily an STV, but they can happen when engaging in those sorts of things.
	All right.
	And so, okay.
	But hold on.
	Yes.
	You haven't talked to him in like six months?
	Eight.
	Eight months.
	And he's still the love of your life.
	Yes, very much.
	Wait, have you been, have you been, have you seen anybody else since then?
	I've tried, but every person I tried to see, I told them about him and that I was still not over someone.
	And I would give them the dagger in the house.
	Wait, have you had carnal knowledge with anybody else?
	No.
	Okay.
	That is fucked up, though.
	Oh, you should get over him.
	He's younger than me.
	Oh, my God.
	Cougar.
	Cougar.
	Chicks and milk.
	Cougar over here.
	Damn, okay.
	But I just, I still love him, and I don't hold anything against him.
	There's no bad blood.
	I think that he just has a lot of growing up to do.
	And I think I have the mindset that I want to be a mom and a wife.
	And I think for some.
	Was he cheating on you?
	No, I don't know.
	Military guy.
	Yeah, I used.
	But was he like a moment?
	I'll tell you what happened, though.
	Was he overseas?
	He, no, not when we were together.
	But what happened was he, after he ghosted me, I deleted social media and I didn't go on for a whole month because I didn't want, I like cried that whole month, so I just didn't want to be seeing anything.
	And when I got back on and I saw his like stories and stuff, he had a girlfriend.
	So he just, maybe you just, how did you guys meet originally?
	TikTok.
	Oh, like you slid into his DMs or?
	Yeah, I saw him on TikTok live and I didn't ever click on anybody's life, but I thought he was like the most attractive person I ever seen in my life.
	How many followers?
	He's like 60,000.
	What's he do?
	He's in the military.
	No, like on TikTok.
	Oh, he just posts military content.
	So you hit him up.
	You initiated everything.
	Yeah.
	Did you?
	Yeah.
	How many of all the you said you met six times in person?
	Yes.
	Would you, you went to see him, right?
	Yes.
	Every single time?
	Technically, yes?
	No.
	When he came the first time he came to see me.
	The first time?
	So he flew to see you?
	We flew back home.
	His home's here.
	Did you?
	Like his home's California.
	But you don't live in California.
	I do live in California.
	Oh, wait, you're in San Diego?
	Yeah, I'm in San Diego.
	Oh, okay, right.
	Yeah, and his sister was living in Canada.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I see.
	But all the other times you went to see him, wherever he was?
	Because he can't with the military, it's hard for him to like.
	And you would like you would pay or would he pay for the flights?
	I would pay to go see him.
	You would pay?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was gonna.
	And Christmas, I was gonna drive one day.
	Oh, you think so?
	You made it extremely too easy for him.
	You think so?
	Absolutely.
	I like it when a girl makes it easy though.
	I like that.
	We like it, but when I'm outside looking in, I'm just saying, if you wanted something serious with her, if you're into the girl and she makes it easy, that's good.
	Right?
	It is, but you could take it for granted that way.
	Because it's like, oh, I got her.
	You know what I'm saying?
	She didn't want everything.
	So it's like, you know, you got to make him work a little bit.
	Like, you pushed up on him.
	You flew out to see him.
	You gave your body to him.
	And he didn't give you no commitment.
	Yeah.
	Did you, like, first time?
	Did you carnal knowledge?
	When was our first time?
	Like, first time you in person, was there carnal knowledge?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It's okay, Illa.
	And it's okay, man.
	Based on what you want out of life from what you're talking about, that's just not the way to get it.
	I think because it took, we were getting to know each other for three months, and I couldn't, like, I wasn't physically with him, and I didn't know when the last time was the next time I was in.
	They were talking for three months beforehand.
	Based on what she wants out of life, I'm not, I'm not knocking out.
	That happened to me before, but I don't, but she wants a husband and kids.
	That's not the way she's in the middle of the day.
	No, I agree with you because now looking back, I know I shouldn't have done that.
	If you just want to have fun, cool.
	But if you want something long-term, I wouldn't suggest that.
	I thought I was going to marry him.
	You also said that you're.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're young.
	You'll be all right.
	Wait, are you still like?
	I'm still very much in love with him, but I'm not waiting for him.
	I just, I like, it's going to take me time.
	You're in love with a guy?
	Wait, question.
	Did you say the first time you met?
	No.
	Did you say I love you?
	No, it was the second time in August.
	How much?
	So from the time you first messaged him, it was May, June, June.
	Oh, four months.
	There you go.
	Four months for an I love you?
	Yeah.
	It's a little premature.
	A bunch of people say it in like a month.
	It's premature.
	Men say that shit to make y'all think we're in love with you.
	But he, wait, he said it first or you said it.
	No, I said it first.
	You know what?
	You gave him all that.
	She's a simp.
	I like women.
	I'm just so lover, girl.
	I'm sorry.
	And okay.
	Little, but second time meeting in person, you just have a big heart.
	It's okay.
	Yeah.
	See, when men, but when men hear those scenarios, it makes them go, see, why should I be the nice guy when him doing whatever he wants to do got her head over heels for her?
	Because he ain't doing nothing and you in bliss.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So that's why guys hear that and be like, why should I be the nice guy?
	Why should I have gentleman skills when obviously that's not good to me?
	I just got what he was doing.
	He was good to you or he made you feel good.
	That's two different things.
	He was great.
	He was my best friend.
	I loved him very much.
	I love him very much.
	But does he love you like that?
	Well, I guess I don't know.
	I think that's not a problem.
	Women prefer to be the women definitely prefer to be.
	So there's like two dynamics in a relationship.
	I'll get you in in just a sec.
	So there's the adored and the adorer.
	And like, if you can get the person, like, I think it does, it feels better to be the adorer, I think.
	But you're putting yourself a bit more on the line.
	Like, you're, the, the adored is less invested in the relationship, but the adorer, you get more of what you want, if that makes sense.
	You mean the adoree?
	The one that's being adored?
	No, the one, it in different ways.
	Like, so if you're the adorer, the person who is giving the adoration, okay.
	Like, you're like, there's an infatuation, whereas the other person, it's like, you know, you're not that into them.
	But like, you got the leverage.
	The adore you also have the leverage, but also like the person you would be the adorer if you got the girl that you're really pining after.
	Or this could be the reverse, right?
	And so like, there's, there's kind of a benefit to both positions because the adorer is the one who's like, whoa, I'm getting the like, I don't know, they're having the more like romantic experience.
	Yeah, whoever's doing a pursuing, the other person has the leverage.
	That's why you got to, it's not, like they say, ain't nothing like when you love somebody, somebody love you back.
	True.
	You got to have that reciprocation.
	You cannot be whoever's always in pursuit mode, you're going to stay in pursuit mode.
	You have to meet the person halfway.
	One sec.
	Wrath.
	Yo, thank you for the gifted 20 subs on Twitch man.
	Really appreciate it.
	You had something, go ahead.
	You mentioned that he posted a girl.
	Is he still with her?
	I got blocked and everything because that day I saw that he had.
	You got what did you do?
	What did you do?
	He blocked you?
	Listen.
	You did something.
	Listen.
	The day I saw, I got back from a concert and me and him liked the artist a lot.
	And so I was very emotional and unhinged.
	And so I sent him a very long voice message, but it wasn't like a hateful one.
	I was crying.
	I was sad.
	I was literally hard.
	Like, it broke my heart.
	And the next day, I got a text from his new girlfriend basically telling me to FY.
	Oh, my God.
	And then, like, not a nice way.
	So.
	Wait, you were the sign?
	You know, he did all that, right?
	You think he'd?
	I don't think so.
	No, she said, she's an ex-she said herself up.
	Did you text him to her?
	Or was it just a voice memo?
	No, it was just a voice message.
	Because I did that to him often.
	Like, I always send him voice messages, like, right when I go to sleep or something.
	So I just sent him one.
	And it was right when I saw it.
	It was literally the night that I saw that he had a girlfriend.
	And then I heard from her the next day.
	And she basically told me, like, that if I ever, she's like, if I ever reach out again, she was basically, like, she threatened to, like, I don't know, do something to me.
	He's behind all of this.
	My cousin was this girl on shit.
	So hold on, hold on.
	So, did he say, I love you back?
	No.
	Oh, bro.
	Wait, you're from San Diego and he's from where?
	He's from California.
	California.
	I don't want to say where he's from, but he's from upstate.
	So like more like stay out.
	Like seven hours away.
	California.
	I don't know.
	I think he's really probably your aesthetic type and he just got deep, deep in your mind.
	No, I think we just really good friends.
	You wouldn't do that to your friend if she's digmatized.
	I know.
	I guess it was just like letting shorty text you.
	That was a girl.
	She couldn't do that without his green, without the green light.
	Damn.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I'm telling you, I would feel like if he did love you that much or if he did care for you, he wouldn't allow his new girl to talk to me like that.
	No, I didn't.
	Wait, what?
	I would have said the same thing that girlfriend would because you knew he had a girlfriend and you not like you acknowledged that and you still went behind her back and said that you sent that memo like out of respect.
	I would agree with you, but out of respect, I would have said the same thing.
	But if he was really her friend, he would have received her.
	No, but they're not friends.
	They were fucking.
	Like that's boundaries crossed.
	Like that boundary has crossed.
	That can be your friend, but you also fucked him.
	You're his ex-girlfriend or partnership.
	Of course, his girl is going to feel some type of way.
	You send him a crying memo saying whatever you said.
	Like, yeah, I would have done the same thing she did.
	I don't agree.
	I think that, I think she was kind of immature the way she handled it.
	I think she had no idea.
	Anything that happened, obviously he didn't tell her.
	Was y'all still dealing with each other around this time?
	Yeah, he never told me there was anybody in the picture.
	See, that's different.
	See, he ain't tell her the truth, so she ain't really know.
	I get what you say.
	Because if he did, I would have backed up 100% and I would have told him, like, I respect you because I loved him.
	He literally posted her.
	Also, he should have reached out to, not the girlfriend.
	I agree.
	I mean, like, if she still has some type of girls.
	I just think that if she still has, like, some type, you know, like, situation with him, he does owe her like some type of explanation to an extent, you know?
	But like, she said, though, when the writing's on the wall, you gotta, you can't ignore it.
	Because now you're playing yourself.
	You know what I'm saying?
	If he posting a woman, he wants you to see her.
	So he kind of playing with you.
	Yeah.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So you got to have more belief in yourself.
	Because sometimes I've been with women and they had did something funny.
	And in my heart of hearts, I still like them, but I ain't tell them that.
	It's like, you got to stand on principles sometimes.
	Like, y'all like you, but you're not about to play him.
	He knew that you were going to see that.
	That's it.
	Yeah, he did that to last.
	That's kind of crazy.
	Yeah, that was kind of fun.
	It doesn't matter.
	You guys don't know until you're in that situation.
	And I completely feel you.
	Like, you know, like, it's okay.
	All right.
	Moving on, you said that you're a Christian with pretty traditional values and views.
	You disagree with the way modern dating is today.
	Typically, you stand with the Republican view on things.
	So I disagree with things like abortion, the trans movement that's being pushed.
	What denomination of Christian are you?
	I would say non-denominational.
	Protestant or?
	No, just non-denominational.
	Do you go to church?
	I do go to church.
	Does that have a denomination?
	No, we don't have a denomination.
	You said that you would love to talk about the feminist movement and how it's being pushed and how women are trying to be superior, as well as you already mentioned that, how that's being forced on people.
	You find those topics extremely interesting.
	So what about the feminist movement?
	What are your disagreements there?
	Just like the hating on men kind of situation that's been going around.
	Kind of like women shit on men all the time.
	And just kind of that.
	I feel like that's always brought up in your podcast.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Anything else?
	No.
	Sorry, I'm sad now.
	We were talking about mama.
	Yeah, you guys were being mean to her.
	No, I don't care.
	It still makes me sad.
	But it's okay.
	I was being supportive.
	I just said nobody can judge until you're in that situation.
	She was digmatized.
	I mean, that's just.
	It's okay to be digmatized.
	Who cares?
	It's okay to be digmatized until they do shit like that to you.
	It is worthy.
	It's okay.
	The digmatizization.
	Digmatization.
	We've all been in a situation where we've all been head over heels over somebody and done something to reach out to them in some way.
	What's crazy?
	Everyone's only head over heels like the person that doesn't want those act, though.
	That's always.
	Ain't that unfortunate?
	Let's see.
	And then going, finishing off with you, Ashley, you have you, you said, I think this isn't necessarily the most controversial, but since I was young, I've always wanted to be a mom and live the stay-at-home life.
	I hold a lot of what people would call old school values and standards, which is kind of the opposite way that the world is moving with the whole push on feminism.
	I think society should push women to stay home and let the men husbands provide.
	And we should go back to basic gender roles because I believe society functioned better as a whole that way.
	Do you want anything to add on that?
	No, I agree with that.
	I'm still.
	So you want to be like stay-at-home wife?
	How many kids do you want?
	Three or four.
	Three or four?
	Okay.
	You got to pump those up.
	Those are rookie numbers.
	Whatever we can afford.
	I'm going for 10, you know?
	Okay.
	Kind of going along with my answer to the second question.
	Yeah, it's more of the same thing that I think I added to that.
	For therefore, I do this with you.
	Okay, yeah, yeah, we already got that one.
	All right, we have Carissa.
	No crazy dating stories, but you're going through breakup right now?
	I am, yeah.
	But it's been two months, I think you said.
	It's been two months.
	You guys broke up two months ago and you initiated it?
	I did, yeah.
	Are you guys still talking, though?
	Okay.
	So we were.
	I did block him on everything, and then I ended up unblocking him.
	You unblocked him.
	But now he's blocked again.
	Wait, hold on.
	When's the last time you talked to him?
	Today?
	No.
	Yesterday?
	Yesterday.
	No, like last week.
	Last week, like Friday.
	Like Monday.
	Like the week technically ends on like Saturday?
	Like yesterday?
	Yeah, he's blocked again.
	Oh, fuck.
	Frick.
	Frickety frack.
	Here, hide stream yard.
	Hide it on CenterZoom too.
	Hide it on the other tabs.
	It's going to come back.
	It's going to come back.
	There's needed to be.
	Big L for fucking cocks.
	Fucking Cox.
	LOL.
	LOL Cox.
	L Cox in the chat.
	Hold on.
	It'll come back.
	All right.
	Whatever.
	So, okay.
	What?
	So, okay.
	You spoke to him when?
	Like, last week.
	Tell me when it's green again, Damien.
	Last week.
	Okay.
	So has it been on again, off again, like prior?
	Um, what do you mean?
	Well, you said you guys were together for two years, right?
	Like almost two years, yeah.
	And it was like pretty much no breaks for two years.
	We're green.
	Okay, thank.
	Thank the goodness.
	Okay, get StreamYard going back again.
	So you dated him straight for two years.
	For almost two years, yeah.
	No breaks.
	Okay, there were like many times where I tried to break up with him, but...
	Go ahead.
	But yeah.
	We didn't really go through those breakups when I would try to break up with him.
	Because I would just be easily like manipulated or convinced.
	Like, oh, like, yeah, he'll change.
	And then he changes for like two weeks.
	And then it just stops.
	What would be the reasons for the breakup?
	Like, the attempted breakups?
	Like, he wouldn't make me his first priority.
	Or he would just, like, put, like, his friends that were, like, girls, like, over my feelings.
	Like, I remember, like, this one time.
	He had a trip to Vegas, and I didn't, like, get to really talk to him, like, like, all day that day, or, like, really.
	So I wanted to talk to my boyfriend because I miss him.
	And no hate towards this girl.
	I'm friends with her now.
	But she went to him because they used to be like really good friends before.
	And he, like, was just on call with her for like five hours, just like trying to make her feel better.
	And I'm here spamming him and calling him, like, saying, like, like, this is so messed up.
	Like, didn't get to talk to you all day today.
	And he's just, like, not answering me.
	And I don't know.
	It's just like a long story.
	Okay.
	So there have been attempts to end the relationship by you.
	Many.
	Yeah.
	Many.
	Many.
	Throughout the course of the two years.
	Yeah.
	And he's like, no, no, no.
	I'll change.
	But he doesn't.
	He changes for like two weeks.
	And then he just like stops.
	And it was just like frustrating because like I loved him so much.
	And like, I don't know.
	I feel like, I don't know.
	So, okay.
	But then two months ago, there was like an official breakup.
	Have you seen him in person since then?
	Like twice after that.
	What was the nature of these meetings?
	Well, he just wanted to talk things out.
	Did you guys hook up?
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	And I don't know.
	Just most of it is just like when like we were talking about it.
	Like, yeah, we hooked up, but we actually did talk.
	And I was just like crying to him because I felt like everything was just so unfair because he's finally like changing or I'm being there for him while he's like upset and like crying to me.
	He's like crying to me and what's he crying about?
	To like get me back.
	Yeah.
	And he's like, okay, I'll change and everything.
	And I'm just like, But where were you when I actually was begging for you to change when like I was actually with you and actually trying and now that I'm actually giving up and not trying anymore you like want to try and it was just like so upsetting and it just like made me like cry so much and I was like crying out of anger because every single relationship I have been in like the first one I got cheated on with like he cheated on me with like two other girls.
	Second one I lost my virginity to him and he just like left me after that and this one there's that.
	So I feel like I don't know.
	I just like.
	It just makes me upset how I'm never with the right guy, like not the right guy, but like or like the right guy, I don't know.
	It was just.
	It's just frustrating to deal with.
	So it's like you stopped trying and then he was like oh, I'm actually losing her.
	Let me like try yeah, but that's gonna end.
	And he's like yeah, I'll change, I'll change, I'll change.
	And I just don't believe him because he would say that, like over and over during a relationship, they all like rock music, like you did he like yeah, did he like the, the deft tones?
	He liked deft tones but he liked deaf tones a little bit.
	But I think I put him on songs more, but I think his number one or rap person is Yeet.
	He said his number one, what he likes, Yeet, like who the fuck is that guy?
	Yeah, I never heard of him.
	TikTok rapper is Yeet, TikTok rapper.
	He likes Yeet Yeet, or he just yo, my name is Yeet.
	Or like Playboy Cardio, or oh god, he's one of those guys.
	Are you?
	Are you Mexic?
	I'm Filipino and Mexican half okay 50 50 yeah okay huh okay, so you saw him in person house long ago?
	How long ago?
	Like two days ago, three days ago?
	No, this is like a month ago oh okay yeah yeah, or wait, you know, with the breakup shit, like that has to be.
	I mean, it's it has to be cold turkey.
	Like you, you can't keep talking to the person, but is he?
	He's blown you up.
	Okay, he's not blowing up anymore.
	But at first it was like crazy where he would just spam calling me, like when he knew I was out at like a party.
	Yeah, how many times did he spam call you the numbers, like on each app, like a hundred times spam call okay, not like like 30 20, like 60 total altogether.
	That's a little crazy right there.
	Um, damn man uh, so is it?
	Is it over over, though?
	It's over really yeah, I don't.
	I don't find attraction to this man anymore because of like, of all the problems he's done.
	It just made me, it just made me less attracted to him each single time and it yeah okay yeah uh, let's see.
	Moving on to your other notes, you said uh, you said I feel like once you see your partner follow an only fans model, or a girl from town who posts a lot, their body makes uh, makes the girl, the girl insecure, okay.
	And then you said vice versa.
	Women shouldn't be following so much men who show off their bodies.
	I just feel like it's weird.
	Social media affects a lot of relationships today, and in general, it makes us believe things and doubt ourselves in our looks.
	Don't you think the fair proposition would be, though, if you want a man to stop, and I agree with you, men shouldn't be like following these IG thoughts and OF girls and just any girl in general, especially if they're in a relationship.
	I think the fair proposition on the female part would be you guys got to stop posting revealing photos.
	Would that be a fair proposition?
	So you're like, hey, I don't want you, my boyfriend, to post, or sorry, not to post.
	I don't want you liking other girls' Instagram photos, whatever.
	I think the fair proposition is then you, the girlfriend, you can't post revealing photos on Instagram.
	Fair proposition?
	Or is that controlling?
	I don't know.
	I disagree.
	I think it's fair.
	I think it's fair.
	Can you scoot your mic to the edge of the table?
	I think it's fair.
	Fair?
	Yeah.
	You think that's fair?
	I think it's fair.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	She doesn't.
	She disagrees.
	No, I don't have any revealing photos on my freaking Instagram.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You could go look up Instagram.
	I have nothing revealing on my Instagram, and I still disagree.
	So why you disagree?
	You don't even do it.
	Because I disagree because if your man is like, okay, your man can post gym photos with his shirt off and his abs popping out, but you can't post a bikini picture.
	But that has no right for, okay, like Borgin, I am not looking.
	I am not following anyone with his abs popping out and all that stuff.
	I'm not following him.
	But why can't you follow girls that have bikinis on, like bikini pictures on?
	I'm not liking naked guys' photos.
	I mean, an argument could be made that it could be one-for-one.
	So both of you can't be liking and following the opposite sex.
	And an argument could potentially be made.
	But we have an agreement where, yeah, my boyfriend can post his workout videos with his shirt out, and I can post me at the fucking meeting.
	Here's the difference, though.
	But if we have an agreement, but we never you staring at girls' photos that isn't me on my Instagram, then why?
	I mean, you post those pictures as a part of like your career because, like, if he got a business, but he's like a trainer.
	Right, no, like he's not like, let's just say he's not.
	Like, he just, he just likes what his body looks like, and he's going to post about it.
	And I'm like, okay, yeah, I like what his body looks like too, so I'm going to let him post it.
	He likes what I do, and we like, we have an understanding that, like, yes, we can, we can do that because we are together, but you have no right.
	I have no right to be staring at somebody, the opposite gender, following them, and staring at their body.
	That's no, no.
	Yeah, but the attention that men get and women get on social media is completely different.
	That's not true.
	We'd be hitting up people off TikTok because they do thirst traps.
	Us women do it too.
	Us women do it too.
	I've done it.
	Yeah, I know.
	Hide it on.
	I already saw it.
	Hide it on hide it.
	Yeah, so I mean, while it is the case that occasionally women shoot their shot, the frequency at which this happens is way lower than the reverse.
	So we have to take that into consideration.
	Like, I'm sure all of you here at this table, I'd be willing to put money on it.
	You have been reached out via DM by men at like exponential rates compared to the rate that you'll be sending out DMs.
	You might do it, but like you might do it.
	The guy's probably not attractive.
	The thing is, most women are shooting their shot at the same guy.
	Men are shooting their shout out.
	Y'all are all going toward the same dude.
	Just be with you.
	Yeah, like the guy I hit up through TikTok.
	He was this like Washington, like green-eyed.
	Like he had, like, he was like really handsome.
	And I've seen his, like, I went through his, I went through his phone and he gets DMs like crazy.
	Crazy.
	Crazy.
	Do you guys have any brothers?
	She's trying to date an Asian guy.
	I'm an only child.
	Only child.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	You got a brother.
	Like, he doesn't date younger.
	I got a brother because you have to be aware of it.
	He's 29.
	I could.
	I could have three.
	Do you like Filipino?
	My guy about to run single.
	He's Filipino.
	She likes that.
	Show me a picture.
	She likes Asian men.
	Okay, I'll show you a picture after.
	But you said is it light-skinned?
	He's like light.
	He's like a light-shaped.
	Filipinos can be light-skinned.
	He also has like gray green eyes.
	Is he short, though?
	No, he's like, oh, yeah.
	No, 5'10, 5'10?
	Wait, you're half.
	You're half?
	Do you got a bro?
	He's younger.
	Oh, never mind.
	And are you, what are you, are you half anything?
	Mexican.
	Full open.
	I'm Mexican, yeah.
	Do you got brothers?
	You got brothers?
	Half Asian, half Mexican.
	Well, I got cousins.
	They're short.
	Bangs.
	You got a brother?
	No.
	Only sisters.
	You Spanish too?
	Yeah, I'm Mexican.
	I'm Mexican.
	Dang.
	I wish I was the only child I have siblings.
	You could?
	Are you looking at me because of my eye?
	Yeah.
	I have 12 siblings.
	Somebody.
	You okay?
	Wait.
	Yeah, I know.
	Fix it.
	Yeah, I'm okay.
	My contact.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I fell asleep with my contact.
	That happens to me too.
	It's been watering for a bit.
	You need eye drops?
	If you have any, that would be good.
	Next time I'm up, I'll get you.
	I'll get you some wetting drops.
	I'll get you some drops.
	Is it the lubricant?
	Oh, the one for contacts?
	Yeah, that's actually good.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, wow.
	Sounds weird.
	Eric with the hookup.
	I'll be back.
	Okay, I think we're back.
	Can you fix it?
	Yeah, go for it.
	Okay, moving on with the notes here.
	Sorry, guys.
	Internet's cutting in, cutting out.
	I think we're back.
	Scuffed as usual.
	Fix that.
	Get OBS back up.
	Okay, moving on with the notes.
	Your ex made you think you were crazy because of his actions that made you the way you were.
	Yes.
	Gaslighting.
	So ga.
	Are you saying gaslighting?
	Yeah.
	So he would the way you acted was his fault.
	Yes.
	Like at first, okay, at first I'm just like, okay, whatever, like go do it.
	And I'll just have like a little feeling about it, but I wouldn't like bother to do anything about it.
	But he just kept adding more and more and more onto that problem.
	And it just made me like go crazy.
	Okay.
	And then, can you give us like an example of one of these times?
	Honestly, okay.
	Also, I have a homework assignment for you.
	Like right now.
	I guess it's not homework.
	Can you read the first three pages of that book?
	Yeah, just right now.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, out loud, please.
	Okay.
	First three pages?
	First three pages, yeah.
	Oh, she's turning it to the camera, too.
	That's very.
	I work with kids.
	Sorry.
	Boom.
	Second nature.
	Go ahead.
	Oh.
	The first page.
	Okay.
	I am Sam.
	The first three pages?
	Yeah.
	I am Sam.
	Hello?
	I am Sam.
	Oh, Sam I am?
	What?
	Okay, how about five pages?
	Just keep going.
	Keep going.
	I'm scared.
	Audio.
	We're having audio issues apparently.
	Sam I am.
	I love it.
	Sam I am.
	I do not like that.
	Sam I am.
	Hello.
	Damn, this book sucks, man.
	Do you like green eggs and ham?
	I do not like them, Samiam.
	I do not like green eggs and ham.
	I don't get it.
	I'm scared.
	What's going on?
	All right, here, I'll take it back.
	That was good.
	That was really good.
	Can we get W's in the chat for Carissa?
	Can we get some donuts?
	Someone's racing around here.
	Warissa.
	That sounds like my name.
	Warissa in the chat.
	W's in the chat for her.
	Great, great reading.
	Proud of you.
	Well done.
	Let's see.
	You said.
	You asked me a question today.
	Yeah, it was.
	Oh, like.
	Like, what's a situation he was having?
	Yeah, just one quick example.
	Sorry, guys.
	Example of what?
	Sorry, I forgot where we were.
	Like, gaslighting.
	When he was gaslighting you and you crashed out.
	Oh, okay.
	So there's this girl, and she used to have a little crush on him, but he was just like, oh, she's just a friend.
	And she just randomly texted him here and there.
	And I'm like, I just don't, I didn't want him to answer her.
	Or if he wanted to answer her, like, okay, like, you can answer.
	But then he just wanted to continue the conversation and like just be like, oh.
	And also, he's a big people pleaser.
	And he admitted that himself.
	So he was just a big people pleaser.
	He would just always put these girls' feelings over mine.
	And I'm over here like crying and yelling at him.
	Saying, don't answer them.
	Just react to their message or something.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So jealousy type shit?
	Guess, yeah.
	Okay.
	You said that hot takes, definitely when he has good hygiene.
	Yes.
	And is confident.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	But not enough where he's like cocky as fuck.
	And then you said you wanted to talk about if religious people are okay with dating non-religious people.
	Are you religious?
	What do you call it?
	Like lukewarm?
	Huh?
	What's it called?
	Lukewarm?
	Lukewarm?
	You're lukewarm, religious?
	Catholic.
	I'm Catholic.
	You're a lukewarm Catholic.
	Yeah.
	Okay, are you Catholic too?
	Okay.
	Also.
	Do you guys go to church?
	Yeah.
	I have a comment.
	Sure.
	I forgot.
	She's like famous.
	I think.
	What is she?
	Is it Shoddy?
	No, not Shodi Bae.
	Is it Gorlock or something?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You want to date her?
	No, no, no.
	I could set you up.
	No, thanks.
	She's Mexican.
	No, that's okay.
	I feel like that's your type.
	No.
	You don't date?
	What?
	Never mind.
	Go ahead.
	What's your question for Gorlock?
	No, it was just in that podcast.
	It was your friend that sat next to you right there.
	Yeah.
	He kind of pissed me off and gave me like, okay, so I have a friend who's Christian.
	Yeah.
	And he made a good comment where a lot of Christians go to hell.
	And he was like the perfect example for that.
	Okay, the guy who's sitting next to me?
	Yeah.
	What did he say?
	He just offended you.
	Like everything.
	Yeah, but what specifically?
	Well, he would just make a lot of comments on girls like the way they look.
	He did?
	Yeah.
	What did he say?
	I forgot, but.
	Was it the born-again virgin?
	Is that her name?
	It was Chase.
	I don't know if you've been on the show with that.
	Yeah, no, but I know who you're talking about.
	Yeah, but you're going to have to give me.
	Like, what did he actually say?
	Well, he would just make fun of like.
	He judges.
	I don't remember.
	He was just judging a lot.
	Yeah, it says.
	Yeah, but what's wrong with judging?
	Because it says.
	No, I know.
	Nothing's wrong with judging.
	It's just that if you're going to say you're Christian, you can at least act like one.
	And, okay, so.
	Yeah, but what did he do specifically?
	He would just make.
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	Yeah, but I mean, like, even for Christians, you're allowed to judge righteously.
	Yeah, but in a respectful way.
	He wasn't respectful.
	Only God can judge.
	Chase, I don't recall all the details of that episode, but Chase is pretty respectful.
	I mean, I don't know if you've heard it.
	Our other male guests.
	I guess.
	Just kidding.
	Just kidding.
	I don't know.
	He was just.
	Was it his tone?
	I don't know.
	Was it his tone?
	No, I don't remember.
	I watched it.
	He said.
	What did he say?
	I don't remember.
	Okay, that's fine if you, if it comes to you, let me know what we all do, that y'all always bring up something somebody did, but you can never tell us what actually they did.
	I guess.
	Sorry, I just felt well yeah, it's like.
	Yeah, it's like I felt like you said it ain't what the man said, it's what it felt like he said.
	Like it's the way men feel.
	Yeah, I like is it's like.
	Okay, you can forgive, but you won't, I mean.
	Or you can forget, but you won't forget.
	But just because somebody, just because you felt like somebody says something that don't mean that's what they said yeah, that is completely real.
	Like it's hard to, it's hard for a man to assess that.
	It's like I never said that sweetheart, you going by something that felt like what I said.
	But I don't know.
	There's a lot of people I don't like that.
	I have good reasons for and I just can't remember the reasons.
	But I know we don't know.
	That's why we all understand y'all, because that don't make no fam sense, the hell word.
	We tell you like this why i'm mad because you did this shorty.
	Like y'all always say, I don't know what you did, but you did it like what?
	Well, in my women's intuition everyone, oh there, what?
	What women's intuit?
	What is that?
	What is women's intuition?
	An excuse to act a fool if?
	If women had this like amazing intuition, we do.
	How do y'all keep picking the worst men bingo ever, because they?
	Where's that female intuition?
	Before y'all end up because they switch up?
	No, you would have had the intuition I had.
	Where's the intuition okay?
	Well, we're not psychics.
	Okay, we have intuition.
	Okay, you have emotions.
	We're not looking into the future saying, oh yeah, in like five years he's gonna cheat on me, or five years he's gonna like.
	No, you can see that.
	No, we cannot.
	We're not psychics.
	Oh no, we have the intuition that he's in the moment.
	In the moment, we definitely do.
	The guy with the face tattoo and the sound cloud wrapper is gonna be loyal to me.
	Who's the guy you have a crush on?
	Well, that's who's the guy you got a crush.
	No, I don't like him anymore.
	Okay, fair enough, all right, I don't like him anymore.
	Um, I don't know.
	He's blasted in tattoos and is a drug addict.
	Yo Darkavia, where are you at, bro?
	Come back here.
	Oh no, that was your friend who was dating all the drug addicts?
	Yeah okay, never mind what's her name, Milena yeah, some interesting names.
	Yeah, I want to name our daughter, our daughter, Litavia.
	All right, how do you feel about that?
	You're in her daughter, she's gonna be Litavia, but you and her are gonna have a kid that me and her are gonna have.
	Okay Litavia, I think she likes, I think she likes you, bro.
	Hey, what you?
	Hey, put the.
	Hey, get the.
	Get the phone out of here, get it out of here, get back over there.
	Yep, see how submissive, by the way, w is in the chat.
	I totally are.
	I've already uh, got her training wheels on.
	Can I add to that submission, w w patriarchy, w submissive.
	Yeah boyfriend, I know you said you wanted to like package.
	No, I can be submissive.
	I just based a picture on the guy.
	Oh, you what, you pissed on the fancy.
	No, the.
	I said it's based on the guy.
	Oh, I think she likes you babe.
	Well, if we have a boy, we can name it Darkavian, can we?
	That sounds like a supervillain or something dark.
	Darkavian Junior Junior, Darkadia Jr.
	Can a girl be a junior?
	I think so.
	What do you mean, a junior?
	Like, if I was dating a chick and, like, you know how, like, there's Brian Jr.
	There's no female word for junior?
	You know what?
	I kind of want, if we do have a daughter, I want to name my daughter the same name as my wife so that it's, I can call her her junior.
	Okay, junior.
	Like, what's like, I don't know.
	If I was, if I was married to a girl named Emily and we had a kid, it would be like Emily Jr.
	EJ.
	By EJ.
	Because girls never get named junior.
	But I feel like we got to start that shit.
	I know, I think, I think I've, I guess, well, I like names that are good for both boys and girls, you know?
	They made the like, I think they're cute.
	I met someone with like a female with a junior, like first name junior, like, but they made the junior her middle name.
	That's beautiful.
	Some people blend names of two people and make them one name.
	Named after the father and the mother.
	Yeah.
	We have Elsie.
	Okay, we got your notes here.
	We're going to get into.
	Or actually, really quick, I mean, last note for you, you said you want to talk about hookup culture and why it's so praised.
	Yeah.
	Are you a do you do hookup culture?
	No.
	No rebound since you're.
	Last guy?
	He kind of was your rebound.
	Like you broke up, and then y'all.
	You know?
	Okay, good talk.
	Elsie, some guy tried biting you.
	Oh, biting?
	Biting?
	Girl, what?
	What?
	What the fuck?
	What happened, Elsie?
	He bit you?
	Like, he just.
	Down there?
	No, my God.
	What the fuck?
	What are you getting into?
	I don't know.
	You just.
	Hey, you left it vague, so some guy tried biting you.
	Yeah, because I was going to explain it on here.
	But basically, I met this guy at the gym.
	Yeah.
	And he wanted to go on a date with me.
	So our first date, it was at the gym, whatever.
	It was like, cool.
	And so he asked to take me on another date.
	And I was like, okay, sure.
	So he was driving and he tried getting my hand and like nibbling at it.
	I've had someone do that to me too.
	Yeah.
	And so I was just like, what?
	Were your hands clean?
	Well, yeah, but I don't think that was his concern.
	Like, why are you biting?
	When was the last time you washed your hands?
	I wash my hands every literally.
	It doesn't have anything to do with it.
	But I mean, like, you got into the car, so like he was trying to bite your left or your right hand.
	Well, he was just.
	Because if it touched the door handle and then you were touching your phone, like, how often do you sanitize your phone, right?
	Oh, well, I want to say that he does not have good hygiene.
	Okay, you don't bite a girl's hand if she hasn't watched it.
	You know, places in people hair.
	I've never had a guy have like a, like, have like the.
	He likes to bite like my arm.
	Like, he would go, like, just kind of like that.
	And I'm like, what the fuck?
	No, and it did just like her once.
	Oh, it happened multiple times.
	She would, okay.
	So after that happened, I was just like, like, I wasn't trying to be rude to the guy.
	Cause like, what if he's like, what if that's his way of giving love?
	People like that.
	You can be rude and stuff, for instance, it's like that.
	I don't want to be rude to the man.
	Somebody's putting their mouth on your hand.
	You could be rude.
	I think you get a green light.
	A lot of girls, though, are not, like, if they like the guy, they're not going to be like confrontational.
	Well, I didn't really like him.
	But if he's ugly, then sexual harassment.
	Oh, I wasn't even going.
	You know, that's what you ever seen that mean?
	When they got the two guys?
	One is handsome, one is not.
	And it's like when he says, hey, what's up, mama?
	It's attractive, but then when he's not attractive, it's like, yeah, I mean, the only difference when it comes to that is basically like whether something is flirting or sexual harassment is like, is she attracted to the guy?
	Is that true, ladies?
	Like, a guy who you're attracted to could do something that a guy who you're not attracted to could do in a tree.
	It's like the ache.
	Yeah.
	Creepy versus flirting.
	But also, it's like, are you touching me first time at your stranger coming up to me in your body language?
	Is it like, are you touching me with all my permissions?
	But yeah, first initial, I don't know you're from Cannon Paint.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Because I've had first date.
	No, I've had guys that are like very, very attractive be like complete weird.
	It was like weight, like so overly like you just beat the worst guys.
	No, no, no, no.
	They're just like really overly like sexual and it's just like they turn off too sexual.
	Yeah.
	I think that's there's stuff across the board that's inappropriate, but like there is like the same exact thing that in one guy you'll like deem as creepy, you'll be like, oh, really hot or like flirting.
	No, but he's attractive.
	No, but I've just said that there can be situations like that.
	Yeah.
	So he tried to bite you multiple times.
	Yeah, so that was the first time it happened.
	And I was like, gonna let it slide because I thought it was just a one-time occurrence.
	I was like, okay, like he bit you hard or was it like just a tiny bit?
	No, he was like trying to do it playfully or like cute.
	I don't know.
	I didn't like it.
	So I was just like, did it hurt?
	No, but I didn't like it.
	You didn't like it?
	No.
	So then this other time we were hanging out with his friends.
	And then I'm walking in front of one of his friends and then he's in back of me with another one of his friends.
	And then he's like, oh, like, should I buy her?
	Should I bite her?
	And I look back.
	I'm like, excuse me?
	His friend said that?
	No, like.
	He told.
	Exactly.
	He told that to his friends.
	He was like, oh, like, should I bite her?
	And I was like, what?
	Like, he said it really loud.
	So obviously he wasn't trying to be like quiet about it.
	I was like, what?
	And he's like, oh, nothing, ha ha ha.
	And then he said it again.
	I was like, don't be biting me.
	Did the other guys, were they also biters?
	I don't think so, because the friend was like, bro, what?
	So I was like, it's weird.
	Yeah.
	Probably also came out of the middle of the day.
	How long did you date this guy?
	For a week, I'd say.
	I went on like four or five dates with him.
	But if he was like a cannibal, he's a serial biter.
	Where did you meet him at?
	The gym.
	Wasn't there like that?
	How much name was he on?
	Celebrity.
	You know what I mean?
	What was his name?
	I forgot.
	Oh, Army Hammer.
	I don't remember.
	Army Hammer.
	Yeah, he likes sexuality.
	He had a cannibal fetish.
	Yeah, he said he wanted to eat up a girl with her legs.
	Allegedly.
	Allegedly.
	They ruined his career over it, though.
	Kind of fucked up.
	It was all consensual.
	Cannibal.
	Consensual biting?
	It was consensualism.
	It was like he had a fetish or a kink or something.
	And I mean, this guy was like Giga Chad, fucking A-list celebrity, and they outed him and pretty much.
	I can see how that came out.
	I found out the fetish of most men.
	We did the most time.
	I don't know, actually.
	Fetishizing.
	Probably large labias, to be honest.
	Like, big labia matter.
	Wow.
	That's true.
	Like, it's normal to, like, I guess.
	Big labia matter.
	To say, like, oh, I'm going to eat you up like you're so cute, you know?
	But, like, that was the extent he took it for.
	Like, it was a little graphic and detailed.
	Going back to you, you said when you're talking to someone, you shouldn't be focusing on anybody else.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	I agree.
	In the talking stage?
	Yeah, I feel like if you're talking to someone, you're trying to date them.
	You're trying to be with them.
	You're trying to be their partner.
	So I just find it unreasonable if you're talking to that person and then also trying to pursue other relationships.
	That's just me.
	Okay, sure.
	And then you said, men need to act like men.
	And we talked about that a bit more.
	Yeah, going back to opening the doors.
	I like that.
	Okay.
	Should women act like women?
	Yeah.
	I feel like if you're asking men to act like men, women should also act like women.
	So like part of that is like, I don't know, for me, it's like, I don't want to be gross or anything.
	So like part of that is like, I don't like to burp loudly.
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	That's just me.
	So just the burping or anything else?
	Also acting feminine.
	Acting feminine?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What does that mean?
	Like, don't be screaming.
	That's just sure.
	That's fair.
	Anything else?
	Like, what are you asking?
	No, I'm just asking you.
	I think, yeah.
	That's like the basis of it.
	Any other girls want to weigh in on that?
	I am not feminine, I guess.
	How should women act like women?
	No, I mean, you could be feminine and still like not do those things.
	I mean, like, yeah, like, I'm loud.
	What do you think about this?
	Tell me if you agree with any of these.
	Being submissive, not going out to parties.
	When you're in a relationship, or well.
	Well, regardless of if I'm in a relationship or not, like, I'm going to still go to parties.
	So, what if your boyfriend says, I don't want you going out to parties?
	You come on with me.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, that's a solution.
	Yeah, they could come with you.
	He doesn't like to.
	He says, I'll FaceTime you.
	No, he says.
	We have to compromise.
	What do you mean?
	What's the compromise?
	I could FaceTime you.
	That's not a compromise.
	Yeah?
	You're coming with me to the party.
	You're not going to keep on.
	That's not going to.
	Or I'd have to also find out what's the reason behind them not wanting me to go party.
	Sure, I'll give you a couple.
	I'll give you a couple.
	Unless it sounded like you wanted a job.
	I mean, I would say the environment.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because, you know, anything can happen to you.
	People are drunk.
	They're under the influence.
	And you could put yourself in a position or one of your friends could put yourself in a position where y'all might get into altercation.
	And now you've put yourself in harm's way and your man is not there to defend you.
	So it's like that's one of many reasons.
	The type of guys that's there, you know, the thirst is real strong.
	So it's like most people that's going out to the club, especially y'all age, they're going out for one thing.
	So if your man don't want you to go, it's not necessarily because he don't trust you.
	He don't trust the environment.
	And I get that.
	But also, if I go out, I also don't go out that much.
	And if I do go out, it's with a big group of girls.
	So we're all protecting each other.
	So I don't feel like I'm putting myself in harm's way.
	But y'all got that friend, though.
	Y'all got that single friend.
	Come on, girl.
	They got drinks.
	Let's go.
	You know that girl.
	No, I'm 18.
	I can't drink.
	You said you can't drink?
	I can't drink.
	Oh, that's right.
	So you don't even need to be there no way.
	Stop it.
	You think that stops all the 18, 19, and 20-year-olds at UCSB?
	That's them.
	Yeah, but you go to UCSB, right?
	Yeah, but I can't comment on their behavior.
	So you don't drink?
	I don't.
	Okay.
	I mean, that's fair, but you're still in these environments where other people are drinking, right?
	But, I mean, look, it is sort of, at that age, it is sort of something that a lot of people do.
	But do you think that this would be, how about this?
	Do you think when you're a bit older, this would be a reasonable standard to have?
	Let's say when you're 23?
	I think so, yeah.
	I mean, it's completely valid.
	And I think at that point, I'll be done with going to parties or anything.
	So it's not something that should cause an argument over.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	But in any case, if you were dating a guy and he didn't like to go out and party, and he was like, hey, I'd rather you spend this Friday and Saturday with me or Thursday.
	How often do you go out?
	Like four times a month.
	Four times a month?
	And it's like Friday, Saturday?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's a lot.
	Typically.
	Well, not, I mean, a lot of the people around here go out like three times a week, you know?
	Yeah.
	Right, Morgan?
	It's tough to do around here that much to go out every day.
	Well, it's a party school.
	College here is like number one party school in the U.S.
	So how about this?
	Being submissive.
	So being submissive, not going out to parties, not dressing revealing, not posting revealing photos on Instagram.
	Wow.
	Fair proposition.
	I don't post revealing photos either way.
	I don't think so.
	You don't have anything revealing on your Instagram?
	No.
	If you're going to pull it up right now.
	Do it.
	The most I have is pictures at the beach.
	That's revealing.
	I don't think it's revealing.
	And also it's the way, the bikini top, yes, but I'm in pants.
	It's also the way in which you're posing and posting it.
	So I don't think it was really.
	The cheeks is out.
	No.
	This is too much.
	I'm going to take a look at my laptop right now.
	What if it's like for like a brand deal?
	Like that's, I think I do have some bikini pictures.
	I don't think she's doing brand deals.
	Oh, in this example.
	Look at it.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Cheeks out.
	I'm going to.
	Oh, what the hell am I?
	Okay, one sec.
	We'll see.
	We'll take a look here.
	You know what?
	Should we pull?
	No, hold on.
	You got your prompt photos a little.
	Eric, what do you think?
	I mean, it's a little bit dress, but it's like.
	You're focusing on the rear.
	It's like above the shoulder.
	It's a wagon check.
	It was a wagon check.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Y'all love that wagon check.
	Okay, but you guys wouldn't be saying anything if there wasn't there.
	If there wasn't one?
	What did you mean?
	I go to the gym, so like it wouldn't be an issue if I was more flat, basically.
	And I was covered.
	I mean, it ain't this.
	It ain't the size of it.
	It's just that you want people to look at it.
	I've seen worse.
	I've seen worse.
	There you go.
	A little whale tail going on.
	But you definitely, you know, you definitely giving a little, you know, check this out type of, you know, a little bit.
	A little advertisement.
	Just a little advertiser.
	A little advertisement.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Just let them know you is here.
	But it's not revealing.
	No.
	There you go.
	It's form fit.
	It's pretty form-fitting, though.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It's thirst-trappish.
	It's a little thirst, but it's not the worst.
	Exactly.
	I wanted you guys to see how amazing the back of the dress was.
	It's a beautiful dress.
	Thank you.
	Great dress.
	Fantastic dress.
	One of the best I've ever seen.
	But you said if nothing was back there, we wouldn't say nothing.
	If there was nothing back there, you wouldn't have took that picture either.
	No, I would have.
	I love myself.
	Oh, I hear you.
	I feel like that goes for like everything, too.
	But I've seen worse.
	I'll give you a B-minus.
	B-m-I mean, I've seen that's pretty, that's a passing grade.
	That's a good grade.
	You need to see.
	You know, with B minus, that's good.
	There's really not judging how you look.
	I'm talking about like the is it revealing picture or nothing?
	All right, I've seen what my words read a chat here.
	Techno Trooper, how can we address social media's role in promoting unrealistic views of life like claims of Sophie Rain's alleged alleged?
	It's good that you point that out.
	OnlyFans earnings, exceeding top NBA players.
	Hashtag digital distortion.
	Techno Trooper.
	Social media's role in promoting unrealistic views of life.
	How can that's a very techno trooper?
	I do appreciate the message.
	How can we address social media's role in promoting absent legislating or like parental controls when it comes to access to smartphones?
	And what do you guys think about this?
	Would you be on board if your husband and you have a kid, son or daughter, doesn't matter, say you have both.
	He's like, I don't want my kids to have a smartphone until they're 18.
	Oh, I like that.
	You guys cool with that, or you would be like, I don't think 18, maybe like 16 or something, but I think the idea of like restricting their 18.
	They can have like a little flip phone.
	No, I 100% flippy phone.
	Agree.
	I like that.
	Well, regardless, they're going to learn things through school.
	Homeschool.
	Homeschool.
	Okay, then you're going to share it.
	No, I would make my kid buy his own when he can get a job and buy his own phone.
	That's when you can have no.
	Having like going to school, even if it's a public school and not have, it's like completely different.
	Like having a smartphone is really different, especially with like this evolving generation.
	I would be okay with that completely.
	Okay.
	They don't need them.
	Yeah.
	I don't know, man.
	There's like even back when I was on dial-up internet shit, I was exposed to some crazy shit on the internet at like 10 playing Diablo 2.
	Look, bro, there was some crazy shit even then.
	Now it's even worse with social media.
	It's bad.
	Remember Rotten.com?
	Oh, bro.
	You get some jump scares, man.
	Rodden?
	Yeah.
	Rodden.com.
	Did you see that photo?
	I don't want to be too detailed, but there was a crazy photo.
	I got it was like a virus or something, some shit, some shit.
	You talking about the motorcycle action with the dude who's like, no, it's like, no, no, no, no.
	I'm talking about, hold on, I got it.
	I think I have to go here really quick.
	Or wait.
	Do it.
	Okay, I'll just.
	I'm showing how to tell you.
	Y'all don't know nothing about that.
	There's a photo of a dude.
	It's so spreading his.
	Spreading his what?
	His cheeks.
	Oh, I ain't never seen that.
	That's another rotten dock.
	I don't know about that website.
	No, no, no.
	It wasn't.
	No, no, no.
	It got sent.
	It got sent.
	I wasn't like looking for that shit.
	It just got sent, you know?
	I've never seen it.
	Rotten.com showed like explosive.
	Like, people got shot in the face, like real violent stuff.
	Like, cheekspread.net.
	I ain't never been to that.
	No, it wasn't, bro.
	I didn't come to cheat.
	I did not go to cheekspread.net.
	It was just like, it got sent.
	And it was like.
	Why did he send it to you, though?
	I don't know, dude.
	Ain't nobody never sent me that, Brian.
	I don't know.
	Cheekspread dog now.
	Bro, I swear it was like, man.
	Okay, whatever.
	Did you never send it or did it stop with you?
	Did you keep sending them on?
	No, I didn't send it.
	I saw that shit.
	I was like, it was like a virus.
	It was a virus.
	And it kept popping it up.
	And you couldn't get out of that shit.
	A cheek spread vibrant?
	That's crazy.
	It was disgusting, bro.
	I bet it was.
	It burned into my retinas, bro.
	Oh, my.
	I couldn't sleep, bro.
	Bro, I don't know what friends you got, but I would get rid of it.
	No, it wasn't friends.
	It was like, it was just a chain thing.
	Just like some bullshit on the internet.
	I never seen it.
	This is crazy.
	Bro, you got me there.
	I wasn't looking for it.
	Sometimes it's a pot.
	Nobody's ever had some crazy shit.
	No.
	Oh, boom.
	There's a dude.
	Wait, do you have you ever used like one?
	Like, surprise dick?
	Have you ever used like one, two, three movies?
	Like that website where you can find three movies?
	That one, if you watch it, like pop-ups.
	The pop-ups are crazy.
	I understand.
	This was like 90s pop-up, AOL, fucking dial-up bullshit.
	Fucking crazy.
	Okay, anyways, whatever.
	Good, good stuff.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	we're going to get into oh we do have a no we already did that one uh Oh, on his message that he sent through about Sophie Rain.
	I'm pretty confident a lot of these OnlyFans girls lie about how much money they make because they're trying to build like, what's it called?
	The hype.
	They're trying to, oh, I'm making $40 million a year.
	What's the hype?
	People are going to be curious what's the hype.
	And then all the attention that she got just by saying that one, it could have been a lie.
	She probably makes a lot of money.
	I wouldn't be surprised if she even makes a million a month.
	But like 43 mil in a year, I think is maybe a lie.
	She probably makes a fuck ton of money, but 43 could be real, but a lot of these OF girls lie about fucking everything.
	So it could be bullshit.
	Could be bullshit.
	Okay, we have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Bangs, go ahead.
	Ten.
	Can you say that without cracking your voice?
	Ten.
	There was beautiful.
	Okay.
	I would say like seven or eight.
	Would you do like a hairflow while you?
	Is that good?
	Yeah, sort of.
	I would say seven or eight just because I think I'm still young right now.
	And so I can still.
	I think I'm, I hope to get better looking as I get older.
	And then also there's more things I can improve on.
	So seven or eight.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Like seven.
	Okay.
	Seven.
	Okay.
	Ten.
	I think six.
	There's a lot I need to improve on.
	Like a six and a half.
	Eric, what about you?
	Can we call Andrew?
	Can you call eight?
	Strong eight.
	Strong eight.
	I give myself a five.
	Can you call Andrew?
	We're going to get him back in here.
	While that's going on, we do have Techno Trooper.
	Ladies, how long should your man last in bed?
	Hashtag dickmatized all night long, all night.
	Okay.
	Every night, Monday, Tuesday, all those days.
	Thank you, Techno Trooper.
	That's an interesting question.
	I don't know if we've ever even had that after 200 shows of 200 episodes.
	Going around the table, how long should a guy last?
	Not too long.
	You want to give us a minute?
	Seconds?
	Seconds?
	How many seconds?
	How many seconds should a man last?
	I don't know, but it gets to a point where guys are like, oh, yeah, I'm going to take some blue chew.
	Like, all of a sudden, blue chew's becoming a thing.
	And they're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to take some blue chew.
	I'm going to last the whole weekend and all this crap.
	And it's like, okay, well, girls don't want to do it the whole weekend, you know?
	Some girls don't.
	Some do, but, you know, it kind of hurts.
	You need to be.
	So, how about like just the, you know, one, one, one per day.
	What, how long should that last?
	I don't know.
	15, 20?
	I have not gotten any action in a while.
	I don't know.
	Cobwebs all up in there.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I really don't know.
	To be honest.
	Sahara does or nothing.
	I don't think.
	It's been a minute.
	I agree.
	Sorry.
	I agree, though.
	Like, not too long.
	I think as long as both people are like having fun.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Yeah.
	What?
	Are you, wait, is it your contact?
	It's.
	That's my contact, I told you.
	It's over there, my friend.
	It's not taking months though.
	We'll get it.
	No, it just hurts a lot.
	I'm sorry.
	Your contacts?
	Yeah.
	You slept in it last night?
	Yeah, I did.
	That's right.
	It's probably dried out.
	It feels like I have cardboard in my eyes.
	He's dried out.
	You don't have to change that, sweetie.
	I should wear myself.
	You could just be blind for the show.
	I don't have anywhere to put it.
	If you have a little container, I'll put it.
	Oh, you don't have disposable?
	No.
	This is my month.
	Yeah.
	Who still uses you gotta get one a day?
	No.
	Both of them is not a bad thing.
	My insurance covers.
	Oh, insurance.
	Both of them hurt?
	No, just this one.
	You got more at home?
	Huh?
	You got more at home?
	No, if I was you, I would just take that one out and just dug it out with me.
	You have to drive home.
	You can't drive home.
	Do you have your glasses?
	No, I don't.
	It doesn't matter.
	All right, all right, okay.
	I'll dug it out.
	How long should your man last in bed?
	I already answered.
	I missed it.
	Oh.
	Not too long, like she was saying, but like enough time that both parties are being pleasured and having fun.
	Give us a time.
	15, 20 minutes?
	10 minutes.
	30?
	30.
	30 seconds?
	30 minutes?
	30?
	30?
	Yeah.
	30.
	Awesome.
	Grandmas, man.
	Grandmas.
	30 minutes?
	That's a little short.
	That's short?
	What?
	I'm finding myself.
	Hey, I ain't no minute, man.
	I don't know.
	Everybody ain't built like me.
	I need at least 40.
	For this guy over here, 40 minutes.
	Look at this guy.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I don't know how to answer that.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because you are a virgin.
	That's okay.
	And that's okay.
	If you were to have sexual intercourse with a man, do you have an idea, though?
	I mean, like, what?
	Like, if it's shorter, the duration is shorter.
	Doesn't that mean they're more attracted to you?
	Oh, so if he's quick.
	Yeah, doesn't that mean that means he's it could be?
	It could mean he's like really turned on or nervous.
	Yeah.
	Or he's got a bad thing.
	So I got shorter.
	Shorter?
	I guess.
	So like three seconds.
	Like that's crazy.
	Like three points.
	Five minutes of school with y'all.
	Like 10 minutes, boom, I'm out.
	That's cool.
	I mean, if she comes, like if she comes like three times, like, yeah, because y'all can go, go, go.
	Some girls.
	Once we done, we done.
	How about when you're.
	This is too much.
	When you are double-clicking your mouse, how long do you usually do that?
	What is double-click?
	What does that mean?
	That's TMI.
	DJing.
	DJing.
	When you are pleasing yourself.
	Oh.
	How long do you go?
	I don't know.
	You don't do that?
	Not often.
	How about whenever it's the full moon, whenever...
	I don't know what you're...
	Like, I don't know this lingo.
	Whenever it's a full moon.
	Like, the moon.
	Like, period.
	Is that when you do it once a month?
	Basically.
	Oh.
	Masturbation.
	How long do I last?
	Sure.
	No one's counting.
	It's keeping track.
	I don't know.
	I don't want to.
	30 seconds.
	I don't know.
	Okay, what about you?
	Well, my answer is the same as Elsie's.
	Which 30 minutes?
	30 minutes.
	30 minutes?
	Okay, Darkavian?
	Wait.
	Sorry.
	Darkavia?
	Go ahead.
	I would say, like, 15.
	That's a whole bunch of divergenting.
	Yeah, we get it.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Do I have to answer?
	Yes, you have to.
	Otherwise, seven years of bad luck.
	It doesn't matter.
	Doesn't matter.
	Okay, sweet.
	Based.
	As long as you guys love each other and can cuddle up.
	She said 15.
	Good times.
	Eric, you're 40 minutes, bro.
	Listen, man.
	I got stamina.
	You feel me?
	Now there's been some situations.
	It's been shorter than that.
	You know what I'm saying?
	If it's good, it's good.
	I ain't going to hold it back.
	But I don't know.
	I'm just.
	I jumped off the porch a little too early.
	That's my problem.
	You know, I grew up a little wild.
	We was doing stuff we weren't supposed to be doing too early.
	So I guess I got kind of like a build-up to it.
	So it's like, I don't, it don't, it take me at least 30 minutes to get right.
	And has that increased as you've gotten older?
	No, it's pretty much the same.
	My wantness to do it is not as much as I used to like.
	That's fair.
	I got to really, really like you before.
	You just got to be cute.
	Now I got to really like you, like you.
	I can't just give you all that energy.
	Do we have Andrew?
	He's ready now.
	Oh, has he been sitting there for a minute?
	No, he hasn't.
	He's a good business.
	Oh, okay.
	He's here, though?
	Okay.
	Guys, chat.
	We are getting Andrew Wilson back on the show after an unfortunate power.
	Oh, there he is.
	Look at this fucking legend.
	My Caucasian Andrew Wilson back in the building.
	Is that a new flannel, Andrew?
	Did you get a new flannel?
	Were you wearing that before?
	Great.
	I was wearing the same.
	Oh, he was wearing the flannel.
	Welcome back, Andrew.
	Welcome back.
	Andrew, I do want you to know we just did the rating segment, and we have two tens at the table.
	And we have two 10s.
	Andrew, what do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
	Well, I mean, if there's two tens there, I'm at least a 10.
	You gotta be.
	He is, he is a bangs.
	Do you agree?
	I want you to say something nice to Andrew.
	Is he a 10?
	Yeah, well, wait.
	Did Bangs rate herself a 10?
	She did.
	Oh, well then, of course.
	Well, then, yeah, Bangs.
	Am I a 10, Bangs?
	Say it.
	I think you have every right to feel like a 10.
	You're right.
	But you're right.
	You know what?
	I have every right to feel like a 10 if a woman like you can feel like a 10.
	I think that's fair.
	Yes.
	But do you think he's a 10?
	Do you think he's a 10?
	Not to me personally, but to somebody, he probably is a 10.
	No, but like, look, I know you guys have had your disagreements, but just looks.
	I know you think you're trying to put me in a trap.
	I'm not trying to trap you.
	Yeah, you are.
	I'm trying to trap.
	I'm just saying.
	Can't walk in.
	No trap.
	There's no trap.
	Zero traps.
	Okay, so to me, my opinion.
	Your opinion, and you can't factor in that you think he's got a, he's got a lump of coal in his heart.
	You gotta just on, look at this handsome devil.
	You gotta rate him.
	I don't want to rate him, but if he's not my type, I can say.
	You don't like white guys?
	I love white guys, but just not guys like Andrew.
	I knew you were a racist.
	Just not guys like Andrew.
	No, but I don't understand.
	If you're a 10, I'm a 10.
	Brian's a 10.
	Everyone's a 10.
	The whole world's 10s.
	Is there anybody in the whole world who isn't a 10?
	Who made that man the gatekeeper of beauty?
	Why are you all of a sudden the gatekeeper of beauty?
	He is the gatekeeper of beauty.
	No, because, Andrew, you like, obviously, you've looked at yourself in the mirror, and you can't go around telling me.
	I'm a 10.
	I'm a 10.
	You've looked at yourself in the mirror, and you put yourself on the scale.
	How can you possibly say you're a 10?
	Because I have confidence, and I have every right.
	Both of those things.
	You've broken the mirror and you've broken the scale, and you're still worried about who's a 10?
	Come on.
	Like, look, let's be objective here.
	If you're a 10, I'm a 10.
	She's a 10.
	Everyone's a 10.
	Yes, that's exactly what I'm trying to get at.
	Me too.
	Me too.
	That's why I said you have every right.
	If you shoot off in a rocket ship to Mars, you're always going to be a 10.
	That's why I said you have every right to feel like you are a 10.
	Should just date already.
	Flirtation.
	So flirty between you two.
	You guys are just a little couple of rats.
	You said that about MLD too.
	And I did not appreciate it.
	I mean, you know, look.
	Oh, God.
	Pull your shirt down.
	Like, have some self-respect.
	What the?
	Wait, what?
	What?
	I went like this.
	What's wrong with that?
	Andrew.
	Of human decency.
	Andrew.
	There could be people eating right now.
	Like, what's wrong with Andrew?
	What's wrong with you?
	Bro, you're coming in.
	Hey, Andrew, you're coming in too hot right now.
	We just got him back.
	He's already.
	Hey.
	He's just really insecure, and I feel bad for him.
	He's a little bit more of a drink.
	Hey, why aren't you not?
	I want you.
	Hey, look, guys.
	Were you breastfed or bottle-fed?
	What the fuck?
	You were bottle-fed, weren't you?
	I breastfed.
	Nah, you were bottle-fed.
	You have bottles.
	You have bottle-fed behavior.
	You're having bottle-fed.
	Which is something you clearly do.
	Your mom didn't love it.
	Hey!
	Hey, guys, guys.
	Can you turn to the side?
	I want to see your head and see if it's flat.
	What the fuck?
	I want to see if it's flat.
	Because it's definitely flat.
	He's muted.
	He's going off and we cannot hear you.
	Wait, hold on, guys, guys, guys.
	Guys.
	I want you each to say one nice thing about each other, okay?
	Bangs, you go first.
	And then Andrew.
	Why don't you have to go first?
	Don't bamboozle, Andrew.
	You say one nice thing.
	Go ahead.
	Say it.
	Do it.
	That's fair.
	Okay.
	One nice thing.
	One nice thing, me first.
	Yes.
	Or him first.
	You first.
	Okay.
	And then Andrew.
	Andrew.
	You are beyond.
	What?
	Beyond lame.
	No, dude.
	Just say one nice thing.
	Hang on.
	I don't know what to say.
	I don't know him.
	To you, bang.
	I just see your bath tide.
	I'm sorry.
	The outfit that you're wearing is just amazing.
	And so, to your courage, I salute you.
	Good.
	We salute you, bangs.
	We salute you.
	All right.
	that was great um you know what I need a little pick-me-up today.
	I want everybody to give me three compliments right now.
	And they all have to be about your looks.
	Shut it.
	How dare you?
	No, never mind.
	Just kidding.
	Okay.
	On the rating thing, though.
	Yeah.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive in 10 years' time compared to now?
	I don't know.
	Because you're 22?
	Will you be better looking?
	Yeah, I'm 22.
	I honestly hope I keep striving and I hope I have good healthy habits and I hope I, you know, work on myself, but I don't know.
	What do you think, though?
	If you had a yes or no, if you had to give me a yes or no, will you be more attractive?
	I don't know.
	I don't like to think about that stuff.
	Does it sting?
	It stings, doesn't it?
	I just don't like, I just don't like time going on and thinking about that stuff.
	It makes me sad.
	Wow.
	Like on a more emotional level, not like a physical level, you know?
	I get that.
	Yeah.
	You know you're going to get older, right?
	Yeah, I know, but it's like, it's, it's, I'm trying to come to terms with that.
	I've learned to be grateful.
	Every birthday I used to cry, but now I'm like very grateful.
	So better looking in 10 years' time?
	I don't know.
	It doesn't matter.
	Come on, dude.
	It doesn't matter what.
	Why are you doing that?
	Why did you cry every birthday, by the way?
	I feel like every girl cries every birthday, or everyone cries every birthday.
	Have you ever in your life, Brian, cried on your birthday?
	Like, what is she talking about?
	Okay, maybe you cried.
	I don't even celebrate my own birthday.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Are you just sorry?
	Do you girls cry on your birthdays?
	Yes.
	I cry like every day.
	It's incredible.
	The rest of the girls on the panel, do you cry?
	Like, raise your hand if you cry on your birthday.
	Who cries on their birthday?
	Why do you cry on your birthday for?
	There's two reasons to it.
	The first being that it's just an emotional day.
	Like, you're grateful enough to be alive and celebrate another year.
	And then the second one is, like, for some reason, I had this expectation on my birthday for it to be like the best day.
	So when that expectation isn't met, I kind of start to cry because it's your birthday.
	It's a day that you want to be perfect.
	You know, get everything you want, see, start crying.
	No, I'm not saying everything you want.
	You're an evil, evil man.
	Yeah, evil.
	Why is that evil?
	Why is it evil?
	Sorry, people can't enjoy their birthdays.
	That is a man.
	That is the face of a man.
	Wait, so you're 18.
	I forgot his camera.
	Hold on.
	When was your most recent birthday?
	Ooh, this month.
	This month?
	How long?
	How.
	Like a week ago?
	Like two.
	Two weeks ago.
	Okay.
	And so you cried two weeks ago.
	No, this birthday I didn't actually.
	But your last birthday?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Why did you cry?
	Like, what went wrong that day?
	I think that day my straightener broke and so I couldn't finish straightening my hair.
	I wanted my hair to be straight for my birthday.
	And that's why you...
	I think so, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Insensitive girl, sorry.
	It'll be fun.
	So what happens when, like, like, was it like heavy crying or was it just like a single tear?
	No, it's just like, yeah, it's not heavy.
	It's just like, dang.
	Dang.
	Damn.
	Should your boyfriend comfort you if you cry about that though?
	I don't have a boyfriend.
	No, no, no.
	Like, if you did have a boyfriend, do you think, like, or can a boyfriend just be like, really?
	No, I feel like.
	Can a boyfriend just be like, really?
	I feel like they should come for you, like, if you're showing any emotions, but then later on, they could be like, you know, that was kind of a, like, no.
	No, in the moment, in the moment, you're over.
	I want someone to comfort.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	I feel like in the moment, the boyfriend's got to be like, bro, really?
	Joe, relax.
	Here, give me a hug.
	Relax.
	It's going to be okay.
	Give me a hug.
	You see, but that's comforting.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but like, we shouldn't indulge you in the crying.
	We need to be like, okay, you're good.
	You're going to be okay.
	That's perfect.
	It's all good.
	That's perfect.
	No, but I mean, like, we also got to come at it like, cut that shit out, too.
	You know what I mean?
	You can say that after, not in the moment.
	In the moment.
	In the moment.
	On their birthday.
	Yeah.
	You're going to get on me on my date.
	Yeah, if you're dating a girl and then she's like emotional on her birthday and you're like, shut the fuck up.
	Like, you know, not that man.
	Not shut the fuck up, but a little bit of like, hey, look.
	Get it together.
	It's going to be okay.
	It's just a fucking straightener.
	It's all good.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	That's comforting.
	It's all good.
	But you can't be like, good at it.
	You just want to acknowledge me, basically.
	That's your thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Give me the straightening.
	You can help self-regulate.
	It's not working.
	Would it be comforting if the boyfriend just started fucking that straightener up?
	Like just beating the shit out of the corner.
	I think it would be also helpful if like the guy would be like try to solve your problem.
	He'd be like, he's like, oh, it's fine.
	Let me just go get, let me run to the store and grab, go get you another one.
	Like a problem solver initiative.
	Or your hair is fine as is.
	What?
	No, I have curly hair.
	Yeah, half straightened, half curly hair.
	What if he's into that?
	No.
	Boom, problem solved.
	It's not about.
	He's into the curly hair, problem solving.
	Yeah, he's like, he just says, like, oh, you look better this way anyways.
	I really don't give a fuck.
	It's my day.
	It's my birthday.
	I want to be happy with how I look.
	It doesn't matter.
	Well, it's not that I'm not happy with my curly hair, but it's like having straight hair is best.
	Yeah.
	Women.
	Yeah.
	I don't know, man.
	I want to know his origin story.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Hold on.
	Let me get through.
	Hold on.
	Why?
	You're looking for some good ammo to use against me there, Bangs?
	No, I just think that you don't have to.
	I love.
	No, I just like psychoanalyzing people.
	Yeah.
	And what sort of psychotic analyzation, I mean, psychoanalyzation skills have you been formally trained in besides absolutely none?
	Well, I like doing it.
	I'm not saying I'm not trained in anything.
	I'm not going to go and be like, okay, Andrew Wilson or whatever is blah, blah, blah.
	I'm not going to go do that.
	I like thinking about it in my head and be like, okay, that's right.
	Here's my original story.
	That's the way he's like that.
	And I already have my theory that you're going to have.
	Listen, I'll satiate your curiosity.
	I'll tell you my origin.
	Where did it all go wrong?
	Tell us.
	Okay, my based mother had me some 40 years ago, almost today, back in January.
	When's your birthday?
	Wait, when's your birthday?
	And I, hang on, Bangs.
	I'm trying to tell you my origin.
	You can't be quiet long enough for me to answer the question you just asked me.
	It's because she wants to know your birthday.
	Because my birthday's in January, too.
	Yeah, well, that's unfortunate we share anything.
	But in any case, back to this.
	I was born-based, and what happened was through a series of very fortuitous events, I was able to create a predictive model of when a woman is going to be an annoying shithead.
	And based on this predictive model, I can almost to a T, to a letter, note that any woman who banks on things like psychology, interpersonal conflicts within gender dynamics, or who dictates that they need you to open up as a man for them, almost never has your best interest at heart.
	In fact, they almost always want to utilize this information for the purpose of the politics of personal destruction.
	I've seen it time and time and time again, but perhaps it's because I've been in the political space for years.
	And so that gives me a bit of insight where perhaps you don't have any.
	So, I don't know.
	I just feel like I really have that feeling just like based off like every interaction I've had with you on the show.
	Is that just like, I don't know, let me guess, woman hater.
	Let me guess, woman hater, misogynist.
	No, I wasn't going to say that.
	Monster, monster, bangs.
	Come on, Tekka.
	Give it to us, Bangs.
	Tell us, tell us how evil Andrew Wilson is because you insulted him and he insulted you back.
	Tell us, Bangs.
	Okay.
	I was going to say that I feel like women are kind of like the roots.
	It's women.
	It's women.
	Say women.
	It's not woman.
	Woman's not the plural form of women.
	You've done this the entire night.
	Say women.
	Say women.
	Try it.
	Just try it, please.
	Say women.
	Okay, so.
	Dude, you're so angry.
	You need to calm down.
	My father doesn't even talk to me.
	Did you say women instead of woman?
	No, it's just like, it's just like kind of ridiculous because like you're like, I don't know, like who do you speak to your wife and your daughter that way?
	No.
	Like my daughter, I mean, my dad.
	Oh, you got me.
	Do I speak to respectable women in a disrespectful way?
	No, I speak to disrespectful women in a disrespectful way.
	You're crazy, dude.
	I just know my fault.
	These aren't arguments.
	It's just emotional appeal after all.
	The only one who has been emotional and has had a reaction is you, mister.
	I don't know.
	You've been freaking out the entire night.
	I barely said anything.
	You're crazy, though.
	Okay.
	You're crazy.
	You got me, Drew.
	You're crazy.
	He had a meltdown because I said woman instead of woman.
	You know what?
	I think that's warranted, to be honest.
	English isn't my first language.
	Neither is it mine.
	You're French, right?
	I'm technically African-American, but how are you there?
	Hold on.
	My wife has requested to speak with Bangs.
	Oh.
	Wants to hear the allegation of how abusive and awful.
	I never said you were abusive.
	No, no, do you talk to your wife this way?
	It's pretty awful.
	Okay, Rachel, the floor is yours.
	You can come on down.
	She's been, she did request it.
	She doesn't request to talk to women on whatever that often, but God help you and may he have mercy upon your soul, Bangs.
	All right, we're going to get her really quick.
	So my dad was born in North Africa and my mom was born in America.
	So technically, Eric, I am African-American.
	I'm not black.
	But what part of North Africa?
	Algeria.
	So you're Algerian American.
	Because Africa is a country.
	It's a continent.
	It's not a country.
	But America is also a continent.
	It's a messed up word from the beginning.
	I don't agree with the African-American concept, but I guess for lack of a better word, you have to use that.
	But you can't be a continent-continent.
	But that's a whole nother context.
	Do you consider me an African-American?
	Absolutely.
	But myself African-American.
	Here.
	Oh, you're trying to get that?
	Did I do it right?
	Absolutely not.
	Too many steps.
	Let me show you.
	It's two.
	It's one.
	Boom.
	Let's see.
	Did you go with this too quick?
	Do you snap?
	Is there a slap?
	No, it's just one.
	No, it's no snap.
	It's slap.
	Slap.
	Grip.
	Grip, we should do this on camera.
	Come.
	Oh, wait.
	It's a slap.
	Slap.
	That's a good angle, Damon.
	There's a slap.
	Slap.
	And then there's a grip.
	So it's really boom.
	Follow me.
	All right.
	And then when you leave, you do the lock.
	The lot.
	And then that's it.
	Can I snap?
	You can.
	Can I snap?
	It's kind of old aid-ish, but you can do it if you want to.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Is it kind of zesty?
	It's a snap.
	Depends on how you.
	If you snap this way, yeah, that's death through.
	But if you just, you know, you got to keep your snap like what about the finger gun?
	Like, it's the the and then the finger gun.
	Is that I never heard of that one.
	You don't you've never here.
	Let's try it again.
	Boom.
	See, you, you, the second step is too much movement.
	Am I doing it right?
	There's too much movement.
	Just bang, come in, come, then lock.
	Slap, hug, lock.
	This is so embarrassing.
	Finger guns.
	Before we have Rachel come in really quick, actually, no, go ahead, Rachel.
	Go ahead, Rachel.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, hello.
	Hi, everybody.
	Hey.
	Hi.
	Hi.
	Coming to friends.
	Hi.
	So whenever people say silly things like, oh, I feel sorry for your wife and kids, I always say, I'm happy to come on and, you know, say hello.
	And, you know, just field any questions you guys might have about what it's like to be married to a based giga chad like Andrew.
	So if you got anything to say, here I am.
	I'll go first then.
	How do you feel with your husband like making these comments?
	Like online.
	Well, just like saying rude things to women or like screaming over them.
	Like, how do you feel with that?
	Well, he doesn't say rude things to women until they say something rude to him first.
	So Bangs was the first one to say, he's got wrinkles and he's old and he's got gray hair and he's gross.
	So of course he's going to say something back.
	And they've had exchanges back and forth before.
	And she's plenty happy to be rude and say mean things to him first.
	Everyone thinks that's okay because she's a woman.
	But if Andrew just simply gives her a taste of her own medicine back, you all go, you believe he said that?
	It's like, why?
	Why is it fine for her to insult him?
	But it's uncalled for when he just simply gives it back to her.
	What's wrong with that?
	Also, last time I was on here, he said that I wasn't a 10 because I had small boobies.
	Oh my goodness.
	And I didn't do anything.
	I just said I was a 10.
	I have a question for you too.
	He said that you're getting worse with age.
	How do you feel about that?
	Well, I've been on the show myself and I'm 44 years old.
	I've had five kids.
	So no, I'm not as hot as I was when I was 22.
	Like this is a fact of life that all women have to deal with.
	The time of your life that you're hot is like short and it's limited.
	You're not going to always be a hot chick.
	So you can't expect that part of your life to last forever.
	I mean, it's just a fact of life that we all get less attractive as we age.
	Doesn't mean he's not attracted to me or I'm not attracted to him, but it's, I'm not as hot as I was when I was 22.
	In fact, when I was on the show, I rated myself a five.
	And everybody always gets upset with Andrew because he rates me a six.
	And I'm like, I think he's giving me just a hair more than I deserve.
	But I'm a normal, regular 44-year-old Midwestern mom of five.
	You want me to come on here and say I'm a 10?
	Do I look like Pamela Anderson?
	You know what I mean?
	It's like, come on, just be realistic.
	You guys get upset with him because he tries to give you a little tiny dose of reality and he doesn't blow a bunch of smoke up your ass.
	But he's never rude or mean unless you do it to him first.
	That's not true.
	Okay, can you give me an example?
	I just gave you one.
	Well, you had an attitude.
	So you were being kind of like how you did earlier, where you're like, I'm going to 8-man and I want to live.
	No.
	So if you come with a fassy attitude and then call yourself a 10 when you're clearly objective.
	Okay, but a 10.
	I can have a discussion.
	That was just my personality.
	But when I said, it was like that comment, when the person said, rate yourself one through 10, I literally, when it was my turn, I said 10.
	And then I was like, and then I was like, do you want me to stand up?
	You know, because I wanted him to rate me, and then he gave me an eight, but then he was like, and I he had Andrew rape me.
	He said, like a three, or she's like, she's not a 10, she has no boobies.
	Doesn't that make you uncomfortable?
	I was like, what?
	Like, I didn't do anything.
	I just rated myself.
	Isn't that weird that your man is looking at her chest?
	Isn't that weird?
	She stood up and asked to have her body evaluated.
	No, no, but no, I said, I was, I was asking, I wasn't asking for him.
	By the time I asked, he wanted what's his name?
	Andrew.
	Just a second here.
	Brian?
	You said you were a 10.
	Andrew said, no, you're not a 10.
	And he had to explain why.
	So that was the reason he gave.
	That's his opinion.
	No, it doesn't make me uncomfortable.
	It doesn't bother me.
	But it made me worse.
	It was so unnecessary.
	That's why I'm saying that he is mean when there's no reason to be mean.
	Like, that was like, I was like, oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	His comment was so unnecessary.
	I watch every episode.
	You were no little angel.
	You were not some sweet, nice girl.
	I am not an angel.
	I never said that.
	Right.
	So you had attitude.
	You had sass.
	You were never sweet to him.
	And that means small boobs.
	Then you have small boobs.
	Like, what do you want me to say?
	Like, I'm sorry.
	The comment wasn't necessary.
	The comment wasn't necessary.
	We're just asking for how you feel about your grown-ass husband saying that stuff.
	First of all, don't ever say grown-ass man.
	It's ghetto.
	I don't give a fuck.
	Yo, try reading some books.
	Do you know what ghetto is?
	All of you have been to all this college.
	And I'm like, where's all the college education for all these college education?
	You're all in college and you can't put two, you know, you're not even using the word ghetto, right?
	So you have like no.
	He's not grown ass.
	He's not a grown-ass.
	But saying those words does not make her ghetto.
	You have ghetto is.
	That's a nice thing to say.
	White woman's saying the word ghetto.
	Crazy.
	I feel bad for you.
	Crazy.
	I feel bad for you because you're 22 and you're on OnlyFans and you've already hit your peak.
	And you're plenty happy to be rude.
	You have been so rude on this show, Bang.
	Don't sit here and gaslight this whole audience.
	We've all seen you on here, multiple appearances.
	You are rude and nasty as you can be.
	And then you do that.
	You got to be perfect for each other.
	That gets the views.
	Why do you think I keep getting invited back?
	Why do you think I keep getting invited?
	She's literally.
	Every time I'm on here, I am the title.
	I am the title every time.
	I can't hear them.
	When you both start clucking.
	No, I said that.
	It's like, I just complimented.
	Like, you guys are literally the perfect couple.
	Like, I see why he's attracted to you.
	Like, yes, you guys are a perfect couple.
	Definitely.
	Listen, I think it's mean.
	I think it's actually the cruel thing to do to let young women have free license to act terrible, to be entitled, to be rude, to think that they owe everything handed to them on a silver platter because they push their boobs up, to act like this short phase of life when you're at your peak fertility is going to last forever.
	That is what's mean.
	Because what happens is.
	I'm sorry, you can't live that anymore, and we're going through it.
	See, this is the thing, though.
	I never did that.
	I didn't do this thing where I was just like my 20s and 30s.
	Are you going to let me talk or what?
	So I didn't do this thing.
	I never did OnlyFans.
	I didn't sell pornography.
	I didn't go through a party hoe phase.
	I was a mom when I was 20 years old.
	I only ever wanted to be in long-term committed relationships.
	I was hoping I would just get married and that would be it.
	I did get divorced.
	Wasn't my fault.
	Wasn't anything that could be done about it.
	Lesson learned.
	Didn't repeat that.
	But what I'm telling you is the mean thing is the whole world telling you that you guys are strong, independent women where you're going to cry because your hair straightener stopped working on your mouth.
	Not so much on me.
	You said that you were being, or your man was only being rude to people who were being rude.
	I haven't been rude, so I don't feel like you should come for me.
	Did you say confront you?
	Come for me.
	Come for you.
	I'm not coming for you.
	I'm saying it's absurd for you to believe that it's like normal behavior to cry because you're straightir and broke or crying every birthday.
	Like young women live in such delusion nowadays.
	That's why everything's all messed up.
	This is why everything's gone to hell in a handbasket.
	You guys.
	Are not acting like the grown, strong, independent, equal with men, women that you claim to be.
	And when I just come on here and say, look, this behavior is ridiculous.
	This is silly and absurd.
	You can't even take it.
	You can't take the slightest bit of just like obvious criticism.
	I'm not calling you names.
	I'm not swearing at you or anything like that.
	I'm just saying you guys were like, well, we want to know how you feel about this.
	And your husband is rude.
	And we don't like it.
	It's like, okay, I'm trying to explain it to you.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to explain to you that this princess fantasy world that you live in does need to be, somebody needs to break that down for you.
	That's not reality.
	Can I ask you a genuine question?
	Yeah.
	How long have you been with Andrew?
	Like married, or like in a like dating and married, I would say.
	Like in a romantic?
	17 years.
	Okay, 17 years.
	So that's a long time.
	You guys seem like a relatively happy couple right now.
	I'm sure you guys had to have some sort of like emotional connection, right?
	To like make your whole relationship last 17 years.
	Can you tell me how you guys do that?
	Because he made a remark earlier about women not liking, like men not being vulnerable because women will use that against them.
	And so like he was saying men shouldn't really show like a lot of emotions.
	And I'm genuinely curious if you've been with him for 17 years, like how do you guys keep that?
	Because I'm sure you guys get into fights too.
	You guys are human.
	Early on, we got into more fights because I still, look, we, all of you girls, and me included, okay?
	I'm not, I wasn't like born a great wife.
	I don't think great wives are born.
	I think they're made.
	I think it's something you have to, it's like anything else.
	It's a skill you have to learn and you have to work on.
	So early on, yeah, I had some attitude issues here and there.
	Not probably not to the extent that a lot of women do, but I would do stupid shit.
	Like if he gave me like a little bit of, you know, stern, if he would say, ah, no, you know, we're not going to do that.
	And I'd get like pouty and like throw a remote control at him or something.
	And he'd be like, excuse me.
	If you're going to throw stuff at me, I'm not going to be with you.
	Like, if that's how you're going to behave, I'll just walk out.
	He wouldn't get angry or yell at me.
	He was just like, I'm not going to tolerate that.
	And at first, I would be like, well, that's so like, how could, and then I thought about it and I went, wait, do I want to be the chick that throws stuff at my man?
	Like, because he said something that like just hit me wrong in the ear, right?
	So I learned that Andrew's a man who has boundaries and he doesn't ever need to be like loud with me or rude with me to enforce them.
	He's just firm.
	He's just, and he'll just be like, nope, you know, I'm just not going to accept that.
	So as time went on, of course we got closer and, you know, we share things, we share life experiences.
	And he'll tell me how he feels about things to a certain extent.
	But what he doesn't do is talk to me like I'm one of his girlfriends, right?
	He doesn't come home from work and be like, you know, it was just such a tough day at work and this guy said something to me and it really made me feel unappreciated.
	And like he doesn't dump like all of his emotional stuff on me.
	He has guy friends for that.
	He has a dad he can talk to if he's got like man stuff to talk about.
	We talk about what's pertinent and we're super close.
	Like anybody who watches the show probably already knows that he and I are like inseparable, super close, best friends, but it's it's still like a male-female relationship.
	I don't expect him to act like one of my girlfriends.
	And I think a lot of young women, especially, they want their boyfriend to act like one of their girlfriends would.
	And you shouldn't expect that from a man because here's why.
	If he actually did that, you wouldn't like it.
	If your boyfriend wanted to cry in your arms all the time when he had a bad day at work, you would very quickly be like, you'd be dry as the Sahara, right?
	It would just not be a turn on for you.
	So I think when you're young, you think you want that stuff from a man, but you really don't.
	So yeah, we, I mean, we're super close, but he doesn't have to like pour out his emotions to me all the time.
	He does when he wants to and when he feels like that's something he wants to do.
	And sometimes I respect it if he doesn't want to do that.
	Okay.
	And like, do you kind of, I mean, you guys are 17 years and do you know like his like childhood, the way he grew up?
	And does that help you like understand him a lot better on why he acts the way he acts in certain situations because you know his like background?
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that's because, you know, you get to know their family, you hear stories, you know, like, of course, I know his parents and his siblings.
	And so I've heard stories about him growing up.
	He'll tell me stories about growing up.
	But he's not going to sit down with me like a therapist and be like, you know, when I was growing up, I felt like my mom did this or my dad did that.
	And here's how it affected my development.
	Like, he's not going to talk to me like that, right?
	So I do know him.
	I know him really well.
	And I can observe his dynamic with his family and hear stories.
	So that's like how you get to know a man.
	It's not going to be like he's going to sit down on the phone with you for four hours and pour out his heart necessarily.
	Maybe some guys do that.
	Maybe it works for some people.
	But Andrew is like, he is a pretty stoic guy.
	He's the same guy at home that he is on the show.
	The difference is that he never has to have the same dynamic with me that he has with you guys because it's a different relationship.
	Number one, I'm like pretty smart, to be honest.
	So he feels like we're on the same level.
	And I'm really respectful.
	I'm very submissive.
	Are you implying that we're stupid?
	I'm not saying you're stupid.
	I'm saying that it tends to be the case that a lot of the young ladies who come on here are not like, so Andrew's like a logician.
	He knows philosophy.
	He knows history.
	He's like a really, really, really smart guy.
	And so sometimes there's a little bit of a mismatch there.
	And the girls will take what he says wrong because they think he's talking down to them when all he's doing is talking how he normally talks.
	So he and I don't have that like discrepancy.
	I'm like, also, I write books and I'm pretty educated and stuff like that.
	So I just think we're like on the same level and we have similar communication styles.
	So we don't have the same issue.
	Like I don't take offense easily either.
	If he tells me, oh man, I really, like if I got bangs once and he was like, really don't like the bangs, babe, like you're, you're very pretty, don't like the bangs.
	I'm just like, okay, no problem.
	He doesn't like the bangs.
	We'll grow out the bangs.
	Whereas a lot of women I think would like cry and get very upset and it would be like a whole issue and it's just not for me.
	So as far, I'm just saying like personality wise, we match up pretty well that way for the most part.
	Noted.
	Thanks for sharing.
	Yeah.
	So I mean, I'm just saying don't sit there like victims.
	If you're willing to dish it out, bangs, you got to be willing to take it.
	You can't sit there and call him wrinkly and old and insult him first.
	And then if he goes, yeah, well, you know, it looks like you've gained some weight since the last time you've been here, says something like that.
	It's like, what do you expect him to say?
	You knew what he was going to say if you said something like that to him.
	But I'm not getting mad at him when he says anything.
	I literally just laugh and I smile.
	It's okay.
	I mean, if you're that's like, I don't know, do you guys want me to get mad or what?
	What reaction are you?
	What reaction is he looking for then?
	Because it's obviously not good enough.
	Just smiling and nodding my head when he calls me that.
	He's not looking for a reaction.
	I wanted to come on because you say now to me, now that I'm here, you're like, oh, it doesn't really bother me.
	I just give it back and we do the back and forth.
	That's fine.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	If you like to give him some shit and you don't mind if he gives you some shit back, there's no problem with that.
	I don't know.
	What you can't do is give him shit and then go, he gave me shit back.
	Girl, no one did that.
	No one did that.
	You, well, you said, I wonder how I feel sorry for your wife.
	And you don't have to feel sorry for me.
	I have a great husband.
	He's a really brilliant guy, a really entertaining guy.
	He is a very handsome guy, too.
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	I don't know who's.
	I don't know why you have to come on here and defend it for us.
	If you were secure.
	Because he said he felt sorry for me.
	So I'm just letting you know, you don't have to feel sorry.
	I couldn't be more blessed to have the husband that I have, which honestly, I feel like I'm punching above my weight a little bit being married to this guy.
	So don't feel sorry for me.
	I'm doing just fine.
	I'm very happy.
	Wouldn't want to be with anybody else.
	And he's a great dad.
	We have four daughters.
	He's a great dad.
	Super nice dad.
	Really, really caring.
	But our kids also are really well-behaved.
	They don't give him a bunch of shit and they don't give him a bunch of attitude.
	And if they did, they'd hear it from me before they heard it from him because I would never allow them to disrespect him.
	So we have a very healthy, like good family dynamic.
	And people seem to think that it's weird for parents to have boundaries or for spouses to treat each other respectfully, I guess.
	I don't know what you guys think is the problem.
	I just mean personally have never had a grown man talk to me that way.
	Well, that's shocking.
	See, that's the problem.
	You are used to giving people shit and attitude and being, you think you have free license to insult people or have a sassy attitude and that because you have your big boobies pushed up, the men aren't going to say anything.
	Girl, Andrew is 40 and married and he doesn't give a shit.
	So he's going to give it right back to you.
	And if all men were that way, you wouldn't have the attitude you have.
	Okay, I don't act like this outside of here.
	This is all for show.
	What is okay, girl?
	Well, if that is the case, then I don't know what the problem is.
	Me either, but I don't know what you decided you wanted to come on here and have a chat with me.
	So yeah, because you invoked me a couple of times.
	A couple different times now you've made comments about, oh, your wife, you talk to your wife this way.
	I feel bad for her.
	I can't believe you have a wife when you act like this.
	And it's like, if you know the nature of the show and this is all for show, then there shouldn't be, shouldn't be a problem.
	There's been plenty of women on this show, by the way, who Andrew has been super nice to has gotten along with great.
	The only time he gives women shit is if they give him shit first.
	If they come on with an attitude, if they act entitled, things like that.
	Then yeah, he's going to match your energy.
	So I can just spot an insecure man when I see one.
	So that's bullshit and you know it.
	You're just saying that is cope.
	That's pure cope.
	You're coping.
	No one's coping.
	There's nothing insecure about Andrew.
	It's pretty clear that he's not insecure.
	So he was like crying because I didn't say woman.
	I said woman.
	And he got really mad.
	He was crying and he was like fake crying.
	I want you to say something.
	It was like age regression.
	We saw age regression right now.
	Repeat after me, Bangs.
	Say one woman and three women went shopping.
	Go ahead.
	One woman and three women went shopping.
	Can you do it?
	No, you're not my mom.
	Sorry.
	Well, I tried.
	It's just something we notice.
	I don't know if it's a California girl thing or if it's like a Gen Z thing, but y'all don't know the difference between women and women, and it drives everyone crazy.
	Read the comments section sometime under the show.
	Everybody notices it.
	Well, I don't know what to tell you.
	It's how we speak over here.
	That's why y'all talk rupees.
	Y'all really talk like this?
	Yeah.
	I honestly didn't even notice it.
	Yeah, me either.
	I never noticed it until I came on the show.
	You never knew it was a difference between women and women.
	No, I knew there's a difference when I write it.
	I write it the correct way, but I guess when I speak it, it comes out weird.
	Really pisses people off.
	Jesus.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Rachel.
	What do you think, Brian?
	Ah, what do I think about just whatever you guys were just about the woman women?
	Woman, woman, women?
	Oh, no, about Andrew being mean and everybody being worried about me.
	Everybody being concerned on my behalf.
	I'm not going to be able to do it.
	Okay, it's okay, girl.
	We know you're fine.
	We know you're fine.
	You're good.
	Well, I know both of you personally, and I know you guys have a really fantastic relationship.
	We've had you in the studio.
	We've had Andrew a bunch.
	And it is, to be fair, Banks.
	Well, I guess not to be fair to you, but you did.
	You started it.
	I don't remember what I said, but I probably did.
	You said something about how his looks or his age or something.
	And he had not said anything yet rude to you.
	And then he's the type of guy.
	It's okay.
	It's okay if I'm saying that I don't care if he threw shit back at me.
	That's how it is.
	I never came and cried that.
	He's like, oh my God, he cried.
	He called me fat.
	If we look back at it, he cried.
	Andrew, I'm pretty sure Andrew was not crying.
	Okay, it's fine.
	You guys can re-watch it, but I never got.
	He was crying?
	Yeah, he was crying because I didn't say, because I said, because I've mispronounced it.
	Andrew's been on.
	I'm going to call that crying.
	Andrew.
	He was literally age regression right in front of me.
	Wow, you are the first woman to make Andrew cry.
	That is.
	I'm telling you.
	Wow.
	Good for you, Banks.
	Couldn't you?
	I just called how evil.
	She did call him.
	Yeah, I said he steals candy from babies.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's that type of evil.
	Yeah, I feel like.
	No, yeah, it's giving like, I don't know, like cartoon evil, like, you know, like cartoon villain.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I think she made some good points, though.
	I think one point that she's made that I have to agree with, which I said as well, that women, that's why I always ask what type of man a woman dealt with.
	Because a lot of modern women, young women, a lot of these cats just really be telling y'all what y'all want to hear.
	And when you meet a guy that's slightly objective and slightly assertive, he gets put in this category of a demonized guy.
	He's toxic and all that.
	And sometimes it is extreme.
	But a lot of times, like she said, a lot of women just never been told the truth in their life.
	And when a man decides to do that, it's like mind-blowing.
	But you also have to consider what people like, okay, yeah, like maybe she's a California girl, but you have to also consider the people like why, like, like why I talk the way I did.
	So if I gave him an attitude and that's why he called my like my little cha-chas or dustmanal, but then that's just how I grew up.
	Like, that's just how I, that's how I talk.
	Tasha grew up.
	Yeah, like mean streets of Chicago.
	Like, and that's just, it's just normal to me.
	So it may not, like, I don't mean to come off that way or like sassy or like attitude, but like, that's just how I talk.
	And I just like, but don't get me wrong, like, you definitely impressed me because honestly, like, you are literally the female version of him, and I love that.
	Rachel, what, what, I guess, getting off of the meta conversation, what do you think about the boss babe phenomenon, Rachel?
	What do you think about that?
	I think it's all a huge farce.
	I think it's all a mirage.
	It doesn't exist.
	I think that women thinking that their boss babes is high in the sky silliness.
	I think it's a result of 100 years of feminist propaganda and that a lot of women really buy into it because it's in everything, right?
	Every pop star, every singer, every rapper, every movie star, every TV show you've watched since you were a little kid tells you that you can be an ass-kicking chick.
	You can take out all the bad guys in the movie, like roundhouse kicking their ass when you're 90 pounds, that you can, you know, be a CEO and do all the things the men do and it's going to work out for you the same way it works out for them.
	And that's just not reality.
	So I actually have a book I wrote about the history of feminism and how that all happened.
	But yeah, it's just, it's made women pretty miserable.
	All the surveys we've done on women since the 1970s show that they're like far unhappier by every metric we can measure than they've ever been.
	Higher rates of alcoholism, drug abuse, mental illness, loneliness, childlessness.
	We have a birth rate collapse.
	Women now are saying they can't find men on their level because they'll go to college for like, you know, four to eight years.
	They'll get a degree.
	They'll start their career.
	And then they'll hit like 32.
	They want to settle down with a guy.
	And they're like, well, he has to make more than me and he has to be a foot taller than me.
	And he has to be all these things.
	But by the time you're in your mid-30s, those guys have already picked girls that are like in their early 20s.
	We're going to give them a bunch of kids and stuff like that.
	So women have all these expectations that are not realistic.
	They get out into the world as adults.
	Things don't match up.
	And they're like, what's wrong?
	I don't understand what's happening.
	I don't know what's wrong.
	I did everything I was supposed to do.
	I went to college.
	I have a career.
	I look really pretty.
	I have all the extensions and the fake tan and the fake boobs and I did all the things.
	Why are things not going how I expected?
	And I think it's because we tell them that they can be like men and we're not like men.
	So I have a question.
	So like, do you not think women can be successful on their own career-wise and still have a happy marriage and meet someone good, you know, around their same social circle?
	It depends on what you mean by successful.
	Are there some women who achieve that?
	Sure, they're out there.
	Like, do you not believe?
	So you don't agree that women should be successful on their own?
	You just think that they need to depend on a man and get married young.
	Steve, that's a false choice that you're creating.
	You're saying like, either I have to be completely dependent on my man and never do anything with my life, or I have to be successful on my own first and then find somebody.
	I think we give women backwards advice.
	I think that it's biological reality that you have a limited fertility window in your life where it's best for you to have children between the ages of about 20 to 35, right?
	You got about 15 years where it's the best time to have kids and when you're going to be able to have the most kids.
	So if you spend all of your 20s going to college and building a career and you don't even think about settling down until you're 30, which I think you had said that.
	You said, basically, I'm going to wait until all my eggs are pretty much gone and then I'll think about, you know, then I'll think about getting a husband when I'm at the end of my fertile years.
	It's not that you can't get pregnant like in your later 30s or even your early 40s, but it gets harder and harder.
	You have higher risk of complications.
	And if you have your first one when you're 35, you might have one more in most cases.
	And that's it.
	And that's the main reason that we only have 1.6 births per woman in this country and in most developed countries around the whole world now.
	Because women are waiting.
	The average age that a woman gets married now in the U.S., I think, is 31.
	It used to be 22.
	But a lot of the first age of birth is like 29 and it used to be like 23.
	So I have a quick question.
	Why do you think women are waiting?
	Because they're told that they have to have their own money.
	They got to have their own.
	You got to have your own career, your own money.
	And then you look for the guy.
	And what happens is, I mean, some of you guys here say that you're virgins, and that's awesome.
	If you're virgins, that's great.
	I approve.
	But most women do not.
	Most women go to college and they run through a whole ton of guys, right?
	By the time they hit 30, let's say you only sleep with two guys a year on average.
	Let's say you lose your virginity at 18.
	Pretty late for most women, but let's just say 18 and you go till you're 30.
	That's 12 years.
	If you only have an average of two bodies a year, you're up to 24 guys by the time you're 30 and you're in your 30s.
	And now you're going to look for a husband?
	It's just backwards advice.
	So I always say have your family first.
	Put your family first because you only have a limited amount of time to do that.
	Then you might be like me and you're 44 and all your kids are grown.
	You've already done all of that.
	And now you can be doing other things.
	You got a lot of years left.
	I have like, you know, hopefully 30 more years to do other things.
	And I have to have my families.
	You cannot bring a child and start a family if you are not, if you have no like safety net, if you have no job, no career or anything, and you're just going to selfishly bring in a child into this world to suffer because you have no safety net and you have no money and now you have to provide.
	I'm going to go into the worst possible scenario, though.
	But no, that's really what happened.
	That happens sometimes.
	Very, very often.
	You'd be very surprised.
	Wait a sec, real quick, chair five, were you going to say the same thing?
	Did you have the same objection?
	No, I was going to say, like, you're saying that how people, like, women wait.
	I actually think that because of this generation, I think people have, women have a mindset where they choose not to have children until they meet the right guy.
	It's not like, oh, like for me, I don't want children, but who knows?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, who freaking knows where I'm going to be at or mindset-wise when I'm, when I, this, oh, like, I get married, like, I don't want to get married, but you don't know what's going to happen.
	So personally, I don't want children ever.
	Okay.
	But so it's not me waiting.
	Having a family is a very permanent decision and it takes a lot of responsibility.
	And if you're 20 and you are not going to college, you are not, you don't have a job and your only thing in your head is, I need a family, I need a family.
	Your priorities are completely out of whack.
	Can I say so?
	I want to respond to Bangs really quick because what she just said, that is the brainwashing I'm talking about.
	That's the propaganda that I'm talking about.
	For all of human history until 50 years ago, maybe 40 years ago, people did things the way I did it.
	People did the way I'm recommending.
	Everyone had their children at 18, 19, 20, 22 years old.
	Everyone got married young.
	It worked for thousands and thousands of years.
	And now suddenly, you're going to tell me that that doesn't work.
	No, of course it works.
	Not in this economy, girl.
	Yeah, no.
	How do you think the economy got this way?
	Because we were able to raise kids on one income for all of human history until, again, 40 or 50 years ago.
	What changed?
	What changed in the 70s that made it so that you need two incomes now to survive?
	What do you think it is?
	Pricing, like literally everything's more expensive now.
	Nope.
	Wrong.
	It's not that.
	We've had much higher periods of inflation.
	My mom, my reason.
	The reason it happened, this is like my field of research.
	I can tell you exactly why it happened.
	Can I put my own experiences on top of what you're going to say?
	Like literally, my mom is my mom is almost 70 years old and she has literally 12 children.
	Yeah, 12 children, same mom, same dad, and she has 12 of them.
	And on her own, she would not have been able to do it.
	Why?
	Because, yes, she's a lot older and she did believe, oh, yes, I need a family.
	Like, I can do this, like, everything.
	But, yes, we did grow up and struggle.
	And my mom still tells us, tells us that she preferred that she never had children simply because she made our life shit.
	Like, our entire lives were shit.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	Your mom told you she preferred to not have you.
	All of us, because only because her the lives that she gave us, no, because the life that she gave us was so bad.
	Like, she wasn't, she couldn't give us like a good life for all of us.
	The quality of life is important.
	No, she had my dad, my dad.
	They both worked?
	Yes.
	And if they worked, and even though, like, you know, I was born in 2001, my mom was still struggling with two house incomes with the economy that we live in now.
	So for me to say, like, my mom literally, like, it feels like she feels bad for us.
	Like, how she couldn't provide more for us than she really wanted to with two incomes.
	So, but, but the same at the same token, then you got that, you have to take accountability of what you can possibly do if two parents know they can't afford to do that.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	That's exactly what she's saying about it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	That's not what she's saying.
	She's saying that they have what it takes to take care of the children they have.
	If you know that you financially with two people are not strong enough, no offense.
	No, why would you have 12 children?
	No, that's what I'm saying.
	They are, they were, but they were.
	I'm telling you, when time went on, when my mom got older and she had more children, the economy worsened, where things became more expensive.
	12 children.
	That's a lot of children.
	Rich went and came up.
	Rent came up.
	Mind you, my oldest sibling is as old as she is.
	That's my older brother.
	My brother's only 45 years old.
	You don't need to have children at 20.
	You can wait until you are more secure and you have to explain why.
	But she explained why.
	So what y'all are talking about is emotions.
	She's talking about the money.
	She's literally, she's not saying that we should.
	We shouldn't.
	You need to be prepared to have a family.
	You can't just bring in a family.
	And she's calling us brainwashed.
	Can I?
	Can I?
	She did call us brainwashed.
	Go ahead, Rachel.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	I'm not putting you down by saying you're brainwashed.
	You literally have been propagandized to go to college and not have kids.
	This is a purposeful thing that they did.
	It was a top-down deal.
	Book explains everything.
	We don't have time to go into that now.
	But all throughout history, people have been poor.
	Poverty is a reality.
	It's never going to completely go away.
	There will always be poor people.
	And by the way, the only people who are still having kids above replacement level are the poorest people in the world.
	People aren't not having kids because they don't have money.
	People think that.
	It's not true.
	The richer people are the ones not having any kids.
	The poor are still having more children.
	I'm not saying that that's good, but what I'm saying is that you absolutely can have a family on the younger side.
	And that if we didn't have every single woman working in the workforce, this is why it's not affordable.
	In the 1970s, the government pushed women into the workforce.
	It was a CIA program.
	There was federal funding behind it to push women into colleges and universities to give them grants to go to school, to give them loans to go to college.
	And so all the women entered the workforce in huge numbers in the 1970s, and it created, there's my cat, a depression in wages.
	So men's wages have completely stagnated.
	And no, you really have a hard time having a family on one income anymore.
	That's not the way things are supposed to be.
	And it was never like that until we pushed women out of the home and into the workforce.
	That is the primary cause of the two-income economy.
	So people could have families.
	They could get married young if we had women being responsible, if we encouraged women to maintain their chastity, to not go to college.
	None of you guys are not.
	So only men have a chance in this world and women don't.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Only men can go to college and women can't.
	Do you know the lady you're bringing?
	Hold on.
	No, I'm not.
	For the sake of families, not everybody wants to have a damn family.
	Hold on.
	Here, Rachel, I'm going to have you finish.
	Then you wanted to come in.
	Then Eric wanted to come in.
	Then you can go.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	So the problem with your thinking here is who's going to have the babies?
	And I know you're all going to say we don't care.
	We don't care.
	If I don't, I don't want babies.
	I don't want a family.
	I don't care about that.
	I did a big rant on the last time I was on about why collapsing birth rates are going to force us back into the dark ages if we're not careful.
	We are on the edge of population collapse.
	And you're going to be offended, and that's okay.
	I understand the reaction.
	But none of you have a degree in anything that's worth a shit.
	You have degrees in stuff like theater, communications.
	Women get degrees in stuff like psychology, interior design, HR management, all this kind of nonsense.
	Okay.
	The men are the ones that do all the really important essential functions in the world.
	They build all the infrastructure.
	They do all the engineering.
	Men still occupy all the dirty, dangerous, and difficult jobs.
	Most women have jobs that are cushy and could be done by men easily and used to be done by men who were like entry-level in the workforce or other men that had the same skills.
	Women also have kept the same jobs for the last century.
	You've all had the opportunity to do whatever you want.
	You could have been engineers, could have worked for NASA, could have been building rockets with Elon, you could have been doing all, working on oil rigs, you could have been lump timber logging people.
	You don't want to do that.
	You want a cushy office job.
	You want a paper pushing desk job that anyone can fill.
	It would be better if we encouraged women to be mothers and have families.
	Now, I'm not saying everyone has to have five kids or 12 kids, but I'm saying we need more than 1.6 children per person, or you're going to run into what's happening in places like South Korea, Japan, and Canada, where they have such an imbalance in the population of older people.
	There's not enough younger people to support the older people who are still living.
	And that's going to be all of you.
	All of you are probably going to live into your 80s.
	And you won't have kids to take care of you.
	And there won't be a younger generation that can support you in your old age and pay for your medical care and everything that you're going to need when you're too old to work.
	And this is a real problem.
	It's a very serious problem.
	The UN has been projecting this for decades.
	World leaders are trying to figure out what the hell to do about it.
	It's a serious problem.
	So for all of you to sit there and go, well, I want to be a psychologist and I'm going to chase my dream and to hell with the future.
	It's like, okay, but that future is your future too.
	So it's very short-sighted to sit here and be like, well, whatever.
	I'm just going to do what I want when I'm young and fuck whatever happens when I'm older.
	You guys don't realize there's a lot of life after 40.
	What if you're alone for 45 years?
	You know, what if there's no infrastructure to support you in your old age?
	So it's not just about you.
	There's a society to think about too.
	You wanted to come in?
	Yes.
	Please.
	So first of all, a lot.
	I was not expecting to talk about this when I came in on the podcast today.
	So I'm kind of glad we are.
	And thank you for saying my accounting degree was shit, but I'm going to move past that.
	It's okay.
	Totally understand.
	First thing is, I did want to address how you talked about the propaganda of pushing a double income household, right?
	So pushing women into work, and telling them that motherhood is for losers who can't hack it in the career world.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I wanted to talk about that, which I'm not going to agree or disagree on that because that was before my time.
	I could do more research on it, but since I'm not an expert, I'm not going to speak too strongly.
	But for the current day and age, if I want to get a house in California and stay here, I will have a double income household.
	I do not want to subject my children, if I do have any, to live in a situation where they can't feel supported.
	They can't go for their dreams that they want.
	If they want to pursue a degree, they can.
	If they want to work in an oil rig, they can.
	My roommate also does engineering and she works at Oil Rigs at like 6 a.m. goes out to check it.
	But going back to what I'm saying is, which is good for her, I can do what she does because I do accounting.
	But sorry, I'm digressing.
	So going back to the double income family, I do, I think a lot of women right now, to this day, do want children, but they can't financially support it.
	And while they do want to have it now, because I do know that if I wait until I'm 35, obviously my body, there's going to be a lot more risks, a lot more complications.
	I have coworkers who are 35, 36 who have to do, I think, what's it called?
	An IV.
	IVF.
	IVF.
	Yeah.
	And they have to like go through a lot for that.
	That's a lot.
	Yeah, it's really bad.
	But they, I think one of my coworkers lost a toe.
	But going back, they wouldn't be able to support their kids unless they were fiscally like prepared because the husband and the wife both work full-time jobs.
	And then they both come home and take care of the kids as well.
	And they kind of like switch it off too.
	But they wouldn't be able to pay for mortgage, for their bills, for the kids' tuition, who has autism.
	So extra lessons on top of that and behavioral lessons, everything.
	So I think while it might be possible in the Midwestern states to still have that dream of kind of like having kids early and being physically like prepared for it, I think it's a lot typical where we are here.
	And that's why we have the pains we have right now is because we want to stay in California and raise our kids in California.
	Okay, but what, like, this is the thing, right?
	I didn't say it was going to be easy because we are in the mess we're in.
	And I totally understand it.
	It's not like Andrew and I didn't struggle.
	We did.
	It was hard.
	We had to make a lot of sacrifices.
	We didn't take vacations.
	We never bought new cars.
	Like I didn't even dream of buying like name brand makeup or anything like that.
	And we did have to move to like a small rural town to make it work and things like that.
	I'm saying if we change the trajectory, we could make it so that this is workable again for people.
	And I do understand that right now it's very hard.
	There's one big silver lining though, which is that with the internet, a lot of people, in fact, they're saying like 40% of all jobs in North America will be remote by the year 2030.
	So there is a good opportunity for a lot of women to work more like part-time ish hours from home and probably still make some money.
	There's a lot of things you can do on the side.
	I used to do firearms instruction on the weekends because I could teach a class and make a thousand bucks.
	So you might have to find some solutions.
	You might have to find some workarounds.
	I'm not saying it's like evil for women to work.
	I'm not saying you should never have a job or that you shouldn't be educated.
	I'm saying you can get educated without college.
	That's one.
	There's a lot of ways to get a good paying job without having to go to a university and take on what most women take on, which I think is an average of $60,000 in debt, which is another thing that prevents people from wanting to get married and have kids.
	You start your life in a ton of debt.
	And women are now the primary debt holders in this country because of their college debt.
	And so, of course, they're not going to have as many kids.
	So I'm saying like on an individual level, I understand you have to work with the world you were born in.
	I did too.
	There was plenty of times where I had to work when I was young and I hated it.
	And that's primarily how I started doing my research because I was like, how did it get like this?
	How did it get so hard for me to just be a mom and stay home and raise my kids myself?
	And that's the only other thing I really want to say is that we all talk about what women want and what's good for women and whether they should be able to have careers and motherhood at the same time, but nobody ever talks about the kids.
	It's so true.
	Nobody ever talks about the fact that almost every child now is raised in daycare and public school.
	They spend eight to 10 hours a day with public school people, daycare people.
	They see their mom for like two hours a day.
	And what no one ever tells you guys is that 95% of the time you'll ever get to spend with your kids is gone by the time they turn 18.
	And you don't ever get that time back.
	You can't go back and redo it.
	You don't get a second chance.
	So I do think the situation is super fucked up.
	And I do feel bad for women, which is why I wrote the book, which is why I have my own YouTube channel, which is why I have a sub stack.
	Now that I do have the time, that's what I want to do is help people who do want to be moms, help women navigate this like awful, this awful world where it's like, what do I do?
	I feel like I lose no matter what I do.
	I have a question.
	Do you mind if I?
	Sorry to interrupt for that.
	So I'm going to just give a very specific example.
	So say it's me.
	I'm like 27-ish.
	My income is like a little under $100,000 a year.
	I still won't be able to afford mortgage, even if I get a partner that matches my income.
	And my like daily monthly expenses aren't too high.
	I have a fully paid off car.
	I don't really shop a lot.
	I don't plan on getting a new car or a new house or anything.
	But if I, how would I go about spending or staying or becoming a full-time mom and staying at home if the only daycare I can afford is sending my kids to public school for that certain amount of time while I work or while it's working hours?
	Yeah, see, that's the thing.
	There isn't going to be like a good happy answer, to be honest.
	If we could live in California, we would.
	Andrew's from there.
	We love like the actual state.
	Like the, it's beautiful there.
	The weather's great.
	There's lots of great opportunities.
	It's too damn expensive.
	And so we had to pick.
	We had to pick either we can have a family or we can live in California.
	His parents also moved because they couldn't afford it.
	You're probably going to have to make tough decisions and sacrifices if being a mom is important and raising your kids yourself is important.
	So you might have to change some stuff.
	Like I was expected to go to college.
	I always had scholarships.
	I was always a smart kid.
	And everybody thought I was throwing my life away.
	Oh, it's such a shame.
	She's throwing her life away.
	And I had like everybody, nobody supported me.
	My parents didn't support me.
	The people around me didn't support me.
	Everybody thought I was making a terrible decision, but I would never go back and change it now because I got to have five kids.
	I got to raise my kids.
	We're all really close.
	And now that I'm older, I do have a lot of time to build a career if that's what I want to do or to work and do things like that.
	And I'm glad I make the sat, I made the sacrifices when I was young and energetic and there was time to do that stuff.
	Whereas if I had waited, I probably wouldn't have had choices at all.
	You know what I mean?
	So it sucks that you guys have this shit sandwich to like, do you want the shit sandwich or the shit taco?
	It's like you don't have any like great choices because this world is not set up for you to have families and careers and everything.
	You can have it all, but you can't have it all at once.
	You know, life has a lot of phases for women.
	We're not, and we're not like men.
	Men can just grow up, start their career, and spend the rest of their life building their career.
	And they do have to be dads and they have to learn how to balance that.
	But it's not the same thing as going through pregnancies and having infants and trying to breastfeed and all of that.
	You're gonna have tough decisions, and you got to decide what's most important and what you're willing to sacrifice to have that.
	So, yeah, thank you.
	Yeah, sure.
	Um, question.
	So, I get what you're saying.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Like, I understand your point of view now.
	I'm getting a better aspect on it.
	Um, but also, do you like, I would say, like, how do you feel like, you know, like you're really lucky to be with like Andrew?
	Like, you guys have been together for 17 years, but you know, like when people also have children with someone, and even maybe even more than one children, more than one child, and they leave the they leave, like, the man leaves.
	Then that's what happened to me.
	Yeah.
	So, like, how did you, like, how did you?
	I think you said that.
	Yeah.
	So, how did you deal with that?
	Like, and that, what say like you never met Andrew?
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, what would you have?
	Like, how did you get yourself out of a situation like that?
	Um, well, I think I had a few things going for me.
	Uh, I had no family support, so I had no help from my parents, no siblings to help me, nothing.
	I was like, completely on my own.
	So, it was hard, it was a struggle, it was heartbreaking for me.
	People hear my story and assume that I was like promiscuous.
	That was never the case at all.
	Um, I had a really tough childhood, like a lot of you guys probably had.
	I did not have great parents, I was in a really messed up situation as a kid and didn't realize that I was making dumb choices either.
	So, I picked a guy who took off, and that sucks.
	And I was heartbroken.
	But luckily for me, I did meet a good guy.
	And I think the only reason that I kind of was saved from the whole single mom situation is because my expectations were realistic.
	I was willing to be very submissive and cooperative with a good, virtuous guy.
	When I met Andrew, he didn't have like a ton of money or anything like that.
	We were both young.
	We were both knuckleheads too, but we were well-meaning knuckleheads, I guess.
	And he was like, Look, I think you're great.
	I tried, by the way, I also tried to break up with him because I thought he was way too good for me.
	And I was like, Look, my life's a mess.
	Please, please don't.
	It's gonna be bad for you.
	And he was like, Look, I'm fine with the situation as long as you're not gonna give me trouble, as long as you're not gonna like, you know, fight me on everything.
	If we can do this together, then we can do this together.
	And that's what we did.
	And so, since then, I've had to trust him and I've had to not give him a bunch of shit, not fight with him over everything, submit when he says, Look, honey, this is what we're gonna do.
	Even if I have reservations, even if I'm not so sure, I go, All right, I trust you because you're the leader and I depend on you, right?
	It's not easy for women to do that because we're trained that if you do that, you're gonna get abused, everything's gonna go horrible, you know.
	So, women are scared to do that.
	But if you find a good guy that at least has his basics, no guy's perfect, and they're all gonna learn just like I had to learn to be a wife, he had to learn to be a husband.
	But if you have a more submissive attitude and you're like, I support you in whatever you have to do to support us, most good guys are gonna rise to the occasion and they're gonna take that challenge head on and it's gonna motivate them to make more money to try to be good providers.
	It's only when they feel like they're never appreciated and they constantly have to fight you on everything, usually that they take off.
	Now, you might end up like I did with a guy who has like a substance problem and he takes off, and that's that sucks.
	There's no like perfect guarantees in life, but generally, most people's marriages break up because the woman just isn't gonna submit ever.
	And so, men are like, Okay, why be the provider?
	Why be the leader if you're not if you're gonna constantly fight me?
	Like, I can't do that.
	Yeah, I think I'm gonna actually try that, like the whole submissive thing because I'm actually the opposite of a submissive.
	So, I'm actually gonna take that approach from this moving forward, and I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna tell you how it went.
	So, I'm gonna try it.
	It's not easy to trust.
	And, you know, they're going to make mistakes and they're going to get things wrong.
	They're not going to always be perfect.
	And you just got to be willing to, you know, roll with the punches with your, whatever guy you pick.
	If you pick a husband, you got to be in it to win it with him.
	And you got to support him no matter what.
	And if you do that, you're going to make it.
	Like, that's how people did it in the old days.
	The one thing I did have going for me was I had an awesome grandma.
	She's still alive, by the way.
	She's 98 years old.
	She's kicking ass.
	She's awesome.
	And luckily I had her.
	And so she had like this more kind of traditional mindset.
	And she would say, like, Rach, this is where you're kind of going wrong.
	And this is what you should do different.
	And so it was really helpful to me to have her.
	But yeah, try.
	I mean, try it.
	If you have a good guy and you're like, okay, I can see this man has some virtue.
	Try not being a terrible bitch to him.
	Try being like cooperative.
	Try being supportive and not fighting him on things.
	And you might be really like, it was hard for me, okay?
	I'm really opinionated too.
	I have a big mouth.
	I'm sitting here chapping, chatting, and but I was just like, all right, look, I'm going to go all in and give this everything I've got.
	And I'm sure glad I did because 17 years later, I mean, I have a rock-solid marriage and I love Andrew more every single day.
	One quick thing before I have Eric jump in.
	That was great, Rachel.
	I'm sure none of it fell on deaf ears whatsoever.
	Eric, what do you have to say?
	Shout out to Rachel.
	I really appreciate everything she said.
	And I told you that earlier, but I'm glad you heard it from a woman.
	So now you see what it is.
	Like, I definitely hope to hear it from a woman.
	Exactly.
	See, but even that is a part of what she's talking about.
	And one thing this generation don't realize is y'all are part.
	It's like we lived in a movie.
	Y'all grew up in the credits.
	And y'all arguing about people who've seen the movie talking about the credits.
	That's not the movie.
	The reality that you live in was crafted and made for you.
	It's not this organic like you think.
	You were made to think this way.
	You were designed to be put in a situation where it's hard for you to find a place because of what happened in the past.
	So when you have people that's from a different generation, we're not talking to you like we're better than you.
	We've seen these narratives formulate in our time.
	So by the time you got here, it seemed like this is just how life is.
	This is not how life is.
	So I think you should really take advantage of what she told you because it's the truth.
	And a lot of stuff that y'all talk about is from an emotional base.
	But this generation, I feel like y'all don't respect information and history.
	Like when she brought up those stats about the CIA, that shit was real.
	And you can't discard that when trying to evaluate the current social dynamic that you're in.
	Like take heed what she said because she dropped a lot of jewels on y'all.
	All she said was facts.
	Yeah, I like my main like focus and how I help my mindset is simply because it came from my mother.
	And she is also, she's like old-fashioned, but she's also very independent when she grew up like, you know, like on her own.
	And but, you know, like she is old-fashioned, but to a limit, to what she basically taught all of us to like, you got this.
	You don't need anyone.
	You got it on your own.
	But you got to also think too, right?
	Sometimes parents raise, just because they are parents, don't mean they know everything.
	And sometimes parents transfer their trauma to you.
	And just because they had a bad route and they made a bad decision, that don't mean you, because sometimes we overcompensate.
	If you grow up from the inner city, you grow up with a lot of, you don't have a lot of things.
	So then you overdo it with your children and think, I got to bottom everything.
	And you create a new monster.
	Just because you don't always have to learn through people's mistakes.
	Like you can learn from other people's mistakes.
	And I think in your situation.
	But like my mom, my mom didn't think like her life was bad.
	You have to move things on, guys.
	Unfortunately, you have to move things on.
	But we have a couple chats coming through here.
	One sec, guys.
	And we do need to, actually, before we get to the chats, we were going around the table on do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Do we just, do we do you?
	I don't know if we asked you that question.
	I think so.
	Okay, so the question was, is related to the looks rating thing.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	I hope so.
	Okay, and you are 18, so do you think you'll be better looking at 28?
	I hope so.
	Okay, you.
	Yes.
	You hope so, but do you think so?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How about 20 years' time at 38?
	Yeah.
	Okay, 30 years' time at 48.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah.
	I took some MILF.
	40 years' time at 58.
	I just think beauty is timeless as long as you can you tilt your mic down a little bit Yeah.
	Beauty's timeless.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I don't think I'm ever going to think not attractive.
	I think loving yourself is really important.
	Right, but you.
	Okay.
	So I'm not going to think I'm unattractive.
	50 years' time at 68?
	68?
	I don't know.
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	You're 25, better looking in 10 years' time at 35?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 45?
	Like compared to 25?
	Yeah.
	No.
	How about compared to 35?
	Yes, because when I'm 35, I feel like I'll be a lot more secure in myself.
	I would be a lot more mature looking, graceful.
	I mean, at 45.
	45?
	No.
	I don't think I would look better than I do when I'm 25.
	Okay.
	What about when you're 35, though?
	Yeah.
	Like, no, 45 to 35.
	Oh, would I look better when I'm 45 compared to the?
	No.
	Okay, I see.
	All right.
	So, but 35 more than 25 and then.
	35 more than 25, but not.
	How about 25 now versus 18?
	I think I'm better now than when I was 18.
	You're 20, better looking in 10 years' time at 30?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 40?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 23, better looking in 10 years' time at 33?
	No.
	All right.
	You're 27, better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 47?
	No.
	And then you're 27.
	Were you better looking at 18?
	No.
	Better looking now?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You're 24, better looking in 10 years' time at 34.
	No, I think I'm in my prime now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We do have, before we get into the chats, we do have some images.
	We've aged.
	My team has advanced you in age.
	Oh, Lord.
	We'll see.
	You tell me which one you prefer.
	Which one you think is more good looking.
	All right.
	Pull it up.
	Oh, I look so cute.
	Can you make them one bigger, I guess?
	Yeah, that's good.
	And this will be for all of them.
	Do you look better on the left or the right?
	Into the mic.
	How rude is this?
	It's not rude.
	It's valid.
	No, it's not rude.
	Oh, real.
	Real?
	I'll start putting sunscreen on.
	She looks like a theme.
	No, honestly, like, I'm going to age good.
	So, wait, better looking left or right?
	Oh, definitely right there.
	On the right?
	No, that's my left.
	So that's, yeah, so better looking on the left or the right?
	Right here.
	This way.
	That one right there.
	Not that one.
	Not right.
	Left or right?
	I said, you said, yes, left.
	But you said right there.
	Who's on second?
	Old you or young you?
	I said it.
	I said it young me.
	I said young you.
	Yeah, how about we'll do this?
	Young you or old you?
	Next?
	Oh, okay.
	What y'all think?
	Obviously, I think right now.
	You should get that mole checked out, though.
	What?
	Stop.
	No, just when it looks a little cancerous on the.
	Oh my god, Brian.
	Don't worry about it.
	On the old version on the AI version.
	It doesn't look cancerous.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my goodness.
	Don't get my humor.
	I was on a podcast and I got diagnosed.
	Yes.
	We are going to have to amputate.
	Okay.
	Which one?
	Which one do you look better?
	Younger or older?
	I think younger right now.
	Older's cute.
	Yeah.
	Cute.
	All right.
	Next.
	Damn.
	I look like Vera Wayne.
	Oh my god.
	You look good, though.
	Which one?
	Obviously, I look better young.
	Oh, okay.
	Next.
	Compared to the old one.
	Ooh, you look so good.
	Wait, you look good.
	You look so pretty.
	Wait, everyone's looking so good.
	I like our old pictures.
	Wait, can you send us the little two pictures?
	Yeah, we can do it.
	Sure, sure.
	Chips and MILF.
	Which one?
	Young.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, bro.
	You look good.
	Wait, I don't see a difference, Loki.
	What?
	Yeah, no, you really don't.
	You look really good.
	Wait, Damien, in the source of tab, scroll down.
	Can you hit right corner?
	You got lipstick on too?
	No, Show it.
	Double-click on the right corner.
	Put change it to four.
	What?
	Three?
	One?
	What the hell?
	Wait, what?
	Put it to four again?
	Oh, okay.
	Never mind.
	Put it back to two.
	I don't know what's going on there.
	All right, which one?
	Me younger.
	Okay, next.
	Sorry, guys.
	Oh.
	Which one?
	Into the mic?
	Into the mic?
	I don't know why.
	I kind of like the way I look older.
	No, yeah, you look good.
	You look so wise.
	Yeah.
	Nice cute necklace, too.
	Like an upgrade.
	Yeah.
	You should go buy that one.
	Looks really good.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, you look good.
	Yeah.
	I like J-Lo.
	Oh, you look good.
	The young person.
	Okay.
	Can I do Brian next?
	Next.
	What the?
	I think y'all are playing with me, man.
	Y'all don't even look like me, bro.
	My father didn't.
	I got a father, my phone.
	I don't look like that.
	They don't look like me at all.
	That's fucked up.
	Next.
	That's Carl Winzlow's shit.
	Brian next?
	Huh?
	Next batch.
	Next batch.
	Okay, we got another bat.
	We got double batches.
	Whoever did this batch, I'm not sure who it is.
	Can you just make sure to do like before or after just so it makes more sense?
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	We'll go through it quick.
	Damn.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm scared.
	Y'all did her dirt.
	She.
	Okay, next.
	Digging be the local Kieran at the wall.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Y'all did not get a good figure.
	What is this supposed to be?
	Damn.
	That's crazy.
	Next.
	Oh, damn.
	That's scary.
	We should have smiled more.
	I looked like a rito.
	You still look good.
	By the way, all these look way more accurate for aging, by the way.
	Yeah, they're a bit better.
	My eyes hurt.
	The other one like AIs it too much.
	Next.
	Wow.
	Oh, it's not bad.
	I look like my grandma, which I like.
	I know the older one.
	Take me.
	See my.
	Oh, yeah.
	She looks good.
	Next.
	I don't like this, man.
	That one looks nothing like me.
	I don't know who that is.
	That's not bad.
	That doesn't look like Nito.
	That looks like Lloyd Mayweather.
	His uncle.
	His uncle.
	I don't look like Milo.
	Just keep up the style.
	Next.
	I'm not going to dress like that at age.
	No, it looks good.
	Oh.
	Make it smaller?
	Smaller?
	You look like Vito Juice.
	The fuck?
	Next.
	Of course.
	Yeah, that's definitely accurate.
	Very accurate.
	Thank you guys.
	Is that it?
	All right, cool.
	All right, we're going to get let a couple chats come in here.
	Who wants to read?
	Can you see the screen?
	You can see the screen and read.
	Can you make it bigger?
	Can you do it?
	All right, I'll have you do it.
	Got it.
	Ladies, at what age does dating start to feel less exciting?
	Especially when appearance is no longer the main focus.
	Hashtag Terry HatcherLove.
	Dating start to feel less exciting.
	Is Terry Hatcher dating?
	Do anybody want to take a crack at this?
	Quick answers.
	I think it stops being exciting when you just try when you've been doing it for so long.
	Like, I think it gets annoying at some point.
	Probably by the time people are 21, they're burned out.
	21?
	21.
	That's early.
	No, because then that's when you can go out to a nice restaurant and get drinks and like, you know, be all cute.
	23.
	It's all downhill.
	23.
	Nobody likes you when you're 23.
	Yeah, I think 33, early 30s is when you start to get tired of it.
	Okay.
	We have another one, three coming in.
	Brian, I'm Blackpill ODing.
	Are all the women, all the women this insufferable, or are you just really good at finding these hags?
	Question mark.
	Chair one, stop interrupting, or I'll take away your twinkies.
	Don't make me count to 304.
	Mr. Based Man, thank you for the message.
	Really appreciate it.
	Also, Techno, thank you for the message.
	W's in the chat for Techno Trooper and Mr. Based Man.
	I do appreciate it.
	Sorry to hear about the black pilling, I guess.
	It is what it is.
	Thank you, man.
	Joe Murphy, thank you.
	Rachel, you are cooking and roasting.
	Keep up the work educating women on feminism.
	If you and your husband steal candies, steal, I think he meant steal candies from babies.
	We have Russian chocolates for you.
	Bravo.
	I think this is because you said it looked like Andrew steals candy from babies.
	From babies, he looks like, okay.
	I've done multiple times, I'm not going to lie, where my daughter's had a candy bar and I've gone over and just ripped a piece of it off for myself.
	I've done that.
	I do that and I enjoy it.
	I enjoy it.
	I think it's funny.
	You know, she gets a little upset about it, and that's what makes it just a little bit funnier.
	I see.
	I see.
	Joe Murphy, thank you so much for the chat, man.
	W's in the chat for Joe Murphy.
	I've got one more.
	An accounting skill will be replaced with AI.
	Automation, Malibu, San Fran, and New York are the most expensive areas in the U.S. Join the FB Leaving California Call Me Four group.
	They will welcome you to the U.S. Yo, Joe Murphy, thank you so much for the message, man.
	I do really appreciate it.
	Yeah, Call MeFornia.
	It's rough out here.
	But weather's nice.
	And we're trying to get Andrew back to California.
	It's a work in progress.
	We'll see what we can do.
	Bada bing, bada boom.
	Okay, wrongful rage, if you want to read this one.
	As a minimalist, this is a sad world.
	Chair one, lying for fame.
	Chair five, dominating boys.
	Foolish women these days are bleak.
	Wrongful rage, I do appreciate the soup chat.
	Really?
	Men need to be more open-minded.
	To getting pegged?
	Exactly.
	What's the world, man?
	Okay, like it's just the thing that I want to try.
	It doesn't mean I'm into it.
	How am I supposed to know if I'm into it if I never tried it?
	Why would you want to try that?
	I don't know.
	I've got to try everything once.
	Who suggested that?
	Everything I suggested to y'all, you don't have to.
	When I see dominate, they're always like, oh, we want to peg a dude.
	I'm like, dude, no, but I found that it's on the table.
	I'm not like.
	So I'm never going to ask you.
	If you're asking the guy you want, we'll do that.
	No, I will never ask.
	Let me peg you.
	No.
	But if he asked, I'm like, oh, if you're down.
	He asked you.
	Yes.
	Yeah, if he's down, I'll run out.
	I wait after I try it.
	You'll try it, but then you'll be so turned off.
	But you're not going to be with him.
	You'll be so turned off by it that it's just over.
	I don't think you would want to date a guy who would be into that.
	The father your children vent over.
	You never like buttons.
	Yeah, like you put like your thumb in guys' buttholes.
	Yo, y'all watching.
	I hear like a lot of girls.
	Yes, I was about to say what?
	Guys are pretty into, like, that type of stuff, but they just hide it.
	Yeah, dudes that women do not take as husbands.
	Y'all talking about weird old dudes who no one takes seriously.
	Any weirdo will let you do whatever.
	Real men who take care of families ain't letting you do this.
	No, and my friend, like, she's literally engaged to a guy, like, and he's just, they've been together for they've been together since like for their freshman year of high school.
	Who here has done butt stuff to a dude?
	No, but I've been asked.
	Wait, did you raise your hand?
	No, sorry.
	Oh, I thought that was a hand raise.
	That was definitely a hand raise.
	You've been asked?
	You didn't do it, though.
	No.
	What in the name of degeneracy is going on here?
	I don't know, man.
	She's talking about pegging dudes.
	I want to see if the other girls are.
	I am.
	I am not.
	She's saying, she's saying, no, she's saying all these chicks are putting their thumbs up dudes' butts.
	I'm just wondering if the girls have actually done that shit.
	I have never done it.
	Like, I have never even been asked to do it.
	What the f?
	Okay.
	That's crazy, man.
	I don't think I would.
	What the?
	I don't think I would ever do that singer thing, but I've heard people.
	Just pull up Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Yeah, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	If you have one, guys, check.
	Guys, it's been three, guys, three hours since we last had a prime sub.
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	Drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	Check if you have one available.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Okay.
	Feminism.
	That came up earlier before.
	I do want to get a.
	I really don't get.
	I don't understand feminism.
	Feminism?
	Feminism.
	I don't know about feminism.
	Feminism.
	Feminism and feminism.
	Either.
	Okay, going around the table.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist?
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	No.
	Like moderate.
	Moderate feminist.
	Okay.
	Same.
	I don't really acknowledge it.
	I don't acknowledge it.
	You don't.
	You what?
	I don't acknowledge or so.
	You're not a feminist?
	I don't know.
	You don't?
	I don't know.
	Andrew, what's the definition of feminism?
	Just to help things out.
	It's in a movement, a movement towards egalitarianism, equality, if you don't know what that means.
	So a movement towards equality by dismantling systems which are patriarchal or systems run by men.
	So they want to be equal as men.
	People that women believe.
	Okay.
	And that the way to do that is because men are in charge of the various systems of society, that they need to dismantle men being in charge of those systems so that they can also be in charge of those systems.
	That would be feminism.
	Basically, women that want to be men, which to me is not even feminine at all.
	So I don't know why they call it that.
	Okay.
	Are you feminist?
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Eric.
	Of course not.
	All right.
	Hmm.
	So yes, yes, yes.
	I'm moderate.
	Moderate.
	Yeah.
	Moderate.
	Yes, yes.
	Question for all of you, relating this back to the, I think most of you, I don't know, maybe some of you differed here when it came to paying for the first dates.
	You said you want a guy to pay for the first aid.
	Do you want a guy to pay for the first aid?
	No.
	No?
	I said yes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And yes.
	Question: How do you reconcile your feminism with wanting men to pay for the first aid?
	Well, I don't know, dude.
	I feel like you ask me this every time, and I always say, I don't know.
	Yeah.
	Wasting time with me.
	What about you?
	Well, if he asks first, which I do like guys who take initiative, I would expect him to pay for the first date.
	But again, like I said, in future cases, I wouldn't mind paying it too.
	Do you ever ask guys out on dates?
	Not on dates, but I'm like, oh, do you want to go get food?
	And then first dates dates.
	You've been dating the guy for three months, and most people wouldn't raise an eyebrow at you asking your boyfriend to go get no first dates.
	I don't ask no.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm pretty moderate.
	I like a more I hate like the word traditional man.
	Why do you hate that?
	I don't know.
	It just sounds very sounds what cliche is cliche unattractive like low-key sexist.
	I don't know.
	How so?
	It's just I hate this word too when I'm using it.
	It just the word gives me the ick.
	But I do believe in traditional dating values and I can be I don't know.
	I'm very moderate in this take, so I can't give you like an exact here.
	Tell me, tell me if this is a fair representation of your position.
	You said you're moderate feminist, right?
	So you like all the ways in which feminism has given women benefits, but you also still like all the ways that traditional treatment benefits you as a woman.
	Is that fair?
	Yes, but I feel like women should have equal rights in terms of like voting.
	I feel like they should be paid equally.
	But I also believe in, you know, if you want a quote-unquote stereotypical traditional man, you should be yourself a classier traditional woman.
	So it depends on like what we're talking about.
	Are we talking about like getting a job?
	Are we talking about dating?
	So I'm very like moderate.
	Okay.
	Sorry, what was the question again?
	I'll skip.
	Traditional.
	How do you reconcile the feminism with the whole men should pay thing?
	I think we're talking really black and white here.
	First is with the definition that Andrew gave, I do agree with like moving society towards more egalitarian.
	But that last part of the definition where like women should be in those places, I don't agree with that.
	I don't think we should replace men, but we should have more space.
	Yeah, but so I'm.
	Like, so to speak here.
	So for example, a lot of, I'm going to just say for the industry I'm in, a lot of our competitors, their CFOs are mostly male.
	But then in my company itself, we have one, our CFO is female, and a lot of people in management are female.
	And I really appreciate that because it made me more willing to kind of push myself in my career and everything.
	So yeah, but okay, so when it comes to the feminism thing, though, we can have a conversation about like, well, there's like kind of the law, the laws and equal rights and stuff.
	But I'm sure you would all agree that when it comes to feminism, a component of feminism wasn't just necessarily about securing equal rights for women.
	It was about like, it was about kind of social roles too.
	Like, oh, women can do this and do that.
	And it didn't really necessarily have to do about rights.
	For example, like, oh, women can go be boss babes and join the workforce.
	Well, I mean, that sort of has to do with like access to being able to work, but like it also had to do with like societal views, right?
	Why don't you also reject the societal views on men that they, I mean, it's a very patriarchal, sexist expectation for you to say men should pay for first aids.
	Like, would you agree that if men were to say women should cook and clean, would that be a sexist statement?
	No.
	That's not sexist?
	I don't think so.
	If they, if they're themselves are a traditional man who provide, then no, I don't think that's sexist.
	Okay.
	Would you say that's sexist?
	I think if you put it with a blanket term of all women should cook and clean, yes.
	If it's like for, for example, somebody who wants to say our home is traditional, it's what she wants.
	I'm not going to say anything about it.
	It's not my life.
	It's her life.
	It's what she wants.
	I just think there should be an option if she wants to pursue everything on her own, have her own life, have her own financials, everything, wants to become a CFO, that she can do that and has that option.
	But if she doesn't, that's okay.
	You think it goes both ways?
	Like, if a man wants to take care of the house or not?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I feel, I got roasted when I said this the first time I came on here when they were like, oh, like, what's your definition of feminism?
	And I was like, to let a woman do whatever the hell she wants.
	Like, it doesn't matter if she wants to be a trad wife, if she wants to be a stay-at-home mom, if she wants to be traditional, if she wants to be whatever, the boss babe.
	You have those choices, and that's what matters.
	And it's important that we have those choices and we don't judge others, you know?
	Okay.
	And it's about equity, too.
	I keep hearing that word boss babe.
	What does that mean?
	They're like, I don't know.
	I think it comes from a meme or something where it's like, oh, hashtag boss babe or something like that.
	At the end of the day, I just feel like you should date someone who shares the same values as you.
	That's the most important thing.
	If you want to do 50-50 as a man, date a woman who's okay with doing 50-50.
	Don't pursue women who are, this is hypothetical, but like getting paid in full, going, you know, going to Novo every weekend.
	You can't expect that type of woman if you want to go 50-50.
	So it's just dating within, you know, your values, your morals, your expectations.
	Sure.
	Can I ask something?
	Yeah.
	Do you think that that, like, like what you just said, do you think that benefits our society?
	Or do you think it makes it worse?
	Benefits the society.
	Like the way, like that mindset that you have to let women do whatever they want.
	Yeah, like genuinely, do you think it's beneficial to our society?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	How?
	Because it's free will.
	You can do whatever you want.
	Yeah, I could just go around and smack the shit out of people.
	Does that make the world a better place?
	If you want, but that's not.
	Is that what she means, though?
	Just to be fair.
	Is that like what you mean?
	What do you mean?
	Like to have, yeah.
	When you say people can do whatever they want, I don't think you mean like some soup?
	That's not what I said.
	Following your dreams.
	Yeah, like you can do whatever you want.
	As in, like, if you want to be a trad wife, you can be a trad wife.
	If you want to stay home, people have shit.
	If you want to go and be a boss babe, go fulfill whatever you want to do.
	We're going to get into the questionnaire here.
	We're going to try to get through it as quick as possible so we won't linger too long.
	Oops, didn't mean to do that, my bad.
	On any one topic.
	But going around the table, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	Let me talk about that.
	You put an infinity sign here.
	I don't know what that means.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't even know what my answer is either.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm not thinking about that stuff.
	I don't know.
	Well, I mean, if you put infinity, then infinity.
	What about, I mean, you don't have any six figures?
	What do you think?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I want to be comfortable.
	I want to live a comfortable life.
	I want to take, I want to go to.
	Do you want to be stayed home?
	I don't know, dude.
	You want a six?
	All I know is that I want to go for winter break.
	I want to go to Aspen or to, what's it called? Switzerland for winter.
	And then in the spring, I want to go to Italy.
	So what sacrifice are you making?
	I want to go to New York.
	So if you got a man, because obviously you want a man that's making a lot of money.
	What sacrifice are you making for that kind of man?
	Like, what compromise are you making?
	Being a good partner.
	By being what?
	Going on the abs has been to spend his money on trips.
	Like, how did that make you a good partner?
	He has a companion.
	You know, he loves me.
	Yeah, but you get that too.
	Love you for what?
	All you're doing is going to spend his money going on trips.
	Like, what do you bring?
	Well, I don't know.
	That's for him to answer.
	He fell for me.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what he saw in me.
	I don't know.
	That's for that man to answer.
	You don't know the answer.
	I don't know the answer.
	Okay.
	Unless you guys have more back and forth.
	I mean, if you don't know the answer, I don't see how you can ask for that.
	Because if you ask for something, you should know why you deserve that.
	And it sounds like you don't really know what.
	Someone here said something really good on that.
	It's like your type, you need to know what your type, his type is.
	Was that what your type is?
	Because a lot of people just think about what I want.
	But you also, in order to get what you want, you got to think, well, what does the person that I want, what do they want?
	And if you're not it, you're not going to get it.
	You know?
	Yeah, you think you're the type of dudes who make like $600,000 or $400,000 or better?
	I don't know.
	Maybe somebody out there, honestly.
	Who knows?
	Some days.
	Yeah, honestly, you don't know.
	You don't know.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm not really sure yet.
	You said enough to provide for our family.
	How much is that?
	I'm not sure.
	Do you want to stay home?
	Or do you want to work?
	I don't mind working, but I also would want to be there for my kids.
	How many kids would you want?
	Maybe like two to four.
	Two to four?
	Okay.
	Michelle?
	More the merrier.
	I don't really have a number, especially because living here is just so expensive.
	How much do you make, if you don't mind me asking?
	I would not want to answer that.
	Six figures?
	Is that fair?
	Like the guy?
	No, do you make six figures?
	No, but a little more.
	Will you make it?
	How about in five years?
	Will you make six figures?
	Okay.
	Would you like a guy to, in five years' time, make six figures that you're dating?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	The more, the merrier.
	Okay.
	In this economy, it's a rough economy.
	Carissa, what about you?
	Just enough to provide for the family and I.
	Okay.
	How many kids do you want?
	Like three or four.
	All right.
	Darkavia?
	I would say about $150,000.
	Okay.
	That's fair.
	At least how much I'm making.
	If he makes less, then I just want him to be pursuing some things he's passionate about.
	Sure.
	I think I put like $100,000, but as long as we have enough money to provide for our family.
	Okay.
	And then we kind of touched on this for some of you, but no.
	And Brian, I do have to dip.
	Sure.
	An hour earlier than normal tonight.
	I got a place you got to be on in the morning, but I got a rage set up heading your way.
	And hopefully this time it'll work.
	Before you leave, do you have like an extra 10 minutes you can spare?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, 10 minutes.
	Yeah.
	Anahee, did I say it right?
	No.
	Should I just say bangs?
	No.
	I can't pronounce your name.
	Anai.
	Anawa.
	I will a woman.
	Anai.
	Anaii.
	Yes.
	Anai here is a feminist, and she wanted to have a back and forth with you before you.
	Look, he's only going to be.
	It's going to be 11, and you want to talk about women's issues right now at 11 o'clock.
	That's exactly what I want to do.
	I mean, it's 2 o'clock for me.
	Yeah, Andrew's game.
	So Andrew needs to go to sleep.
	Oh, you can't.
	Don't weasel his way out of this.
	He needs to wake up tomorrow and take to school.
	It's my mom.
	He's only going to talk for, you guys will only have an exchange for five, ten minutes, then he's going to leave.
	In my homeschool.
	Oh, see, then he has to be the whole principal.
	So one of the busy days.
	Well, to just get to the point here, one of the back and forths we've had is we had disagreements on female oppression, women's oppression.
	What?
	Is your position the same?
	I don't even remember what I said into the mic.
	I don't even remember what I said two years ago.
	What did I say?
	Essentially, you said that women are oppressed.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Although you changed it to, you're like 50-50 on?
	You wrote both yes and no, whatever.
	I don't know, entire day.
	In any case, you said women are oppressed.
	I asked you how, and you didn't really, would you care to, you've had two years to figure it out.
	Do you want to provide?
	Yeah, I think there's a lot of shit that has happened that has made women oppressed.
	Like, we couldn't even have a bank account.
	Can I speak to you?
	It is women.
	We haven't.
	It is women.
	Dude, I can't.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead, guys.
	It's okay if you keep fucking.
	This isn't my first link about a crime.
	And I'm from California.
	I don't know if you're talking about it.
	It doesn't seem like you have any trouble with the plural version of other words.
	Just that one.
	It's a California accent, dude.
	I don't know.
	So California, I'm going to tell you right now, nobody that I know in California says woman instead of women unless they're women in the localized Santa Barbara area.
	That's the only time I hear this.
	It's fucking.
	Okay, dude.
	So, okay, back to this.
	Back to this.
	So, how are women oppressed?
	Well, we couldn't even have freaking bank accounts until like, what, 50 years ago or something?
	We were literally tied into marriage.
	So, before I have Andrew, jump in on the what else?
	Bank accounts?
	Bake accounts.
	We couldn't vote.
	Literally, men were freaking marrying children, impregnating 15-year-olds.
	I don't know.
	There's a lot of crap, dude.
	I can't.
	But you didn't live through none of that.
	So how do they oppress in your time?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	All that sounds like basically male oppression to me.
	Male oppression.
	Yeah, well, it sounds like male oppression.
	So, yeah, you couldn't have bank accounts, but you couldn't have debt.
	There's no debt.
	So women weren't responsible for any form of debt.
	So only their husbands took their debt on.
	So if you went to a department store, for instance, and you ran up all of your husband's credit on the credit cards, he was responsible for the debt that was incurred even if you were divorced, for instance.
	And if you went into a marriage and you had your own money, right, and you had your own land and things like this, the husband was not entitled to any of that, but you were entitled to his.
	Oh, yeah.
	So yeah, that is true that there's an extension where women weren't allowed to have bank accounts, but it's because they weren't allowed to go into debt.
	They didn't allow women to go into debt.
	They didn't think that debtor's prison, which was a thing that men had to deal with and not women, they didn't think that it was appropriate to throw women in jail.
	So instead, they incurred all the debt on the husband.
	Yeah, that was definitely male oppression.
	I agree with that.
	And then women were seen as property, and then we didn't have to say that.
	Women can't defend property.
	So because women can't defend property, they have to rely on men to defend property.
	That's why the thought process was not to give women property.
	But women often did own properties willed down from their parents.
	So the thing is, is that when you entered into matrimony with a man, that is true that if he accrued property, he was responsible for its maintenance and any of the debt that was incurred with the property and not the woman.
	But the woman could hold property as a namesake from her own family.
	And guess what?
	She also could rack up enormous amounts of debt.
	Could never be applied to debtor's prison.
	She could never go to debtor's prison.
	Only the men could.
	But isn't all these laws or like the rules created by men?
	So didn't they just put that on themselves?
	Didn't men say women should stay home?
	So wait, the thing is, is that men took care of you so well and made sure that you had zero responsibility in society and all the entitlement, man-bad.
	Makes sense to me.
	So men was.
	So we had no way out.
	Like women's only ways.
	What is it?
	Like, what is it that you want?
	Not everybody is a bad deal to be able to have enormous amounts of debt on someone else's account.
	Like, what's so terrible about that?
	But back then, it's like all that was expected of women was get married and pop out babies.
	And it's like, not everybody wants to be a freaking birthing machine.
	Oh, a birthing machine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you have some greater duty than to have kids.
	I'm guessing you're going to go on and cure cancer.
	Or perhaps you're.
	I mean, what do you think, bangs, in 20 years, your biggest accomplishment in this world will be absent motherhood.
	I've just out of blanket curiosity.
	What do you think it'll be?
	World dominance.
	No, I mean, I want to take over the world.
	Here's what your biggest accomplishment will be.
	You don't know it?
	You don't know it right now?
	You'll be a cog in a wheel and you'll be a nine-to-fiver cog in a wheel.
	There will be no great accomplishment that comes from bangs other than a legacy.
	You could leave a legacy behind, and such a legacy requires you having children.
	You don't know it yet, but you're going to be polishing my shoes in the near future.
	Yeah.
	You are.
	You are.
	I'm going to take over the world and you are going to be the first person I kept.
	No, actually, you know what?
	I'll make a dude.
	I have a better idea for you.
	I'm going to make a little bit of treadmill.
	No, you're going to be the little, I'm going to make you wear the little Joker costume and then I'm going to call you over and then you're going to have to do little dances for me and skits.
	Well, you got about 80 pounds left before you're Harley Queen.
	You're crazy, dude.
	If we could get back into the topic, that would be fantastic.
	I'm just curious what you actually think your biggest accomplishment in this world is going to be absent children.
	What do you think it's actually going to be?
	I already told you world dominance.
	I don't know what you're doing.
	No, okay, got it.
	Troll the trophy.
	Troll dominance.
	You can't even do troll dominance correctly.
	What do you want me to do?
	It's because, dude, I can't take you seriously.
	Like, you're just such an angry guy.
	It's like everything is angry.
	Because you're just angry.
	Me asking you pointed questions and you being completely unable to answer them and anybody who's getting together.
	I don't know what I want to do.
	I want to accomplish a lot of things.
	I want to accomplish a lot of things.
	I'm going back to school.
	I just feel like you're going to be able to get a lot of things you're actually going to accomplish.
	I don't know, dude.
	I don't know.
	Things have, so many things change it.
	Like, my expectations for the year are going to accomplish.
	What?
	What is your goal then?
	To accomplish what?
	I don't know.
	I want to be proud of myself.
	I want to be proud of myself.
	I want to make the people around me proud.
	So, no goal.
	What's wrong with that?
	What you want to accomplish?
	You can't tell me what you even.
	Because I don't know, dude.
	And yet, for some reason, those baby-making machines, those women who create babies, which is the highest and most valuable virtue in society, the thing in which men and women both will give their lives for, that is just a little too much out of your vein, right?
	That is female oppression.
	It's like, no, that's true female liberation.
	It's the ability for you to birth children, especially in your 20s, and be able to stay at home and take care of them.
	That's actually women's liberation, true women's liberation.
	Actual oppression is for you to say that a woman who does that is a birthing machine.
	It's disgusting.
	It's disgusting.
	I never said woman.
	Who?
	You did say birthing.
	Yeah, but I didn't say it in that context, and I will repeat myself on the context that I did say.
	I said back then, all that was expected of woman was to pop out kids and basically be a birthing machine.
	Yeah, what higher virtue could they have had than that?
	What?
	Yeah, you see, that's exactly what I'm saying.
	That was all that was expected.
	That was all that was expected.
	I don't know, because they had limitations.
	They had limitations.
	They had no, they had, they didn't even have a chance.
	They didn't even have a chance to do to fucking succeed on their own without a man and without having a family.
	And now you're mad because women finally have the chance to survive without men.
	But they still don't have a chance.
	They do.
	How?
	Chance to do what?
	To succeed.
	To succeed at work.
	Wait, couldn't they just not work back then?
	Like, they were not allowed to work.
	What is talking about?
	That was created by men.
	Exactly.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	You got it all wrong.
	Women, women were the ones who pushed for suffrage.
	Not men, men didn't push for women's suffrage.
	Women went berserko.
	They wanted suffrage.
	They wanted a right to vote.
	They wanted a right to be in the political experience.
	The women who were against it, they said, don't do this.
	Okay, and by the way, they overwhelmingly, women would actually vote away their right to vote.
	They did.
	That's what they did.
	Everywhere it was put on the docket for women to actually have the right to vote and they were able to vote on it, they voted it down.
	That's why they had to make it a decision at the federal level.
	So the thing is, it's like, no, the anti-suffragettes, the people who were against women voting, the women themselves said, we have the moral high ground.
	Right now, we're well taken care of.
	We don't want to go fight in wars.
	We don't want to get blown to pieces.
	We don't want to have to have the responsibility of voting to send men to war and wars we will never be able to fight or have to fight.
	They didn't want the responsibility of that, and they shouldn't have to have it.
	They have the best place in society ever, which is none of the responsibility and all the perks.
	Now you have all the responsibility, right?
	And your mental health, not doing so great.
	I wish we could leave them.
	Not doing so great.
	Drug levels, not doing so great.
	Promiscuous levels, not doing so great.
	Child out of wedlock, not doing so great.
	You really fucked yourselves on that one, I got to tell you.
	I mean, I agree.
	But you know what?
	You can have a fucking credit card now.
	Isn't that based?
	Isn't that great?
	Thank God you could have a credit card, Bangs.
	You know, and we wouldn't want to stop you from succeeding at that thing.
	You don't know what you want other than having kids.
	I would never want to stop you from doing whatever that thing is that you don't know.
	Period.
	Thank you.
	Also, I mean, also on the like the credit card thing and the bank thing, there actually wasn't a law precluding women from having these things.
	These were like at the individual bank level determinations, which still, I mean, you can still certainly make an argument that that's like on a corporate level, that is still discriminatory towards women, but there was no law actually preventing them.
	And actually, women did have bank accounts.
	Yeah, well, and not only that, but here's the other thing to think about: which is that right now, if I could, if I could wave one, I'd make it so that nobody had credit cards, not just women.
	That the debt cycle has been awful for everybody in the United States, and that women were exempt from that.
	And that's crushing.
	It's crushing on men and women's souls to have such a burden put on them.
	But at least before, men were taking that responsibility.
	Women didn't have to deal with it.
	And now the major complaint for oppression in history is that, oh, gee, we didn't put the crushing weight of debt on your shoulders.
	It's like, what a bunch of terrible bastards those men were.
	Yeah.
	You got anything?
	Anay?
	No.
	Well, with that, bangs, it was nice talking to you, actually.
	And I hope you have a good evening.
	Truly, I just match energy, right?
	So it's that old Gullum thing, right?
	If they're nice to us, we're nice to them.
	But anyway, I appreciate it very much.
	Appreciated talking to everybody on the panel.
	And I hope all of you have wonderful nights.
	Bye, Andrew.
	Send over a raid, Andrew.
	Hope you have a good night, man.
	We'll see you on Tuesday.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good night, Andrew.
	And we're going to try to get through this questionnaire as quick as possible.
	I'm going to read this chat here from Joe Murphy.
	Asking feminists to define feminism is like asking a Marxist who doesn't know the definition of socialism, collectivism, or totalitarianism.
	For simplicity, what is first, second, third, fourth wave feminism?
	Joe Murphy, thank you for the super chat.
	What is anybody want to take a crack at the waves?
	No idea.
	I just know that one of them had to do with like voting.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I don't know what happened in the different waves.
	Yeah, there was a lot of people.
	I feel like there's also a lot of people.
	TechnoTrooper donated $200.
	Ladies, many 100k plus jobs demand that a man be more committed to his work than to his spouse.
	What type of job would you suggest for him so he has enough time for you?
	I would say probably like in say something like, I don't know, like his own company so he can work from home.
	You know what I mean?
	Like people that you're like.
	Self-employed.
	Anybody else?
	A lot of jobs in tech are remote.
	I know this because I'm a recruiter.
	Also, like software engineers, a lot of them work from home.
	Obviously, they're busy, but they'll at least be at home, have a little bit more flexibility than going in the office.
	Anybody else?
	Okay, we have Ilkin Ali.
	Shout out to the one and only Illosophical.
	Amazing to see him on the whatever podcast.
	Gotta remain a guest.
	Feminism means women can do what's best for themselves and what they want, but men have to do what's right and best for society.
	If women were truly treated equal to men, they'd hate life.
	Yo, thank you for the big $200 super chat, man.
	W's in the chat for women already hate life.
	How do you say his name?
	Ilkan?
	Ilkan.
	Ilkan.
	Yo, dude, guys, W's in the chat for the big, or W's in, yeah, W's in the chat for the big super chat.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Yeah, it's great to have Eric here.
	Illa.
	How do you say it when you do the intro?
	The Illa?
	The Illis?
	The Ill Ilma?
	What?
	When you do your intro, you're like, yo, it's Illa.
	It's Eric, aka Illa.
	But my page is called my Instagram hand was Illosophical.
	My YouTube channel is Illosophical Radio.
	Oh, I thought there was more to the intro.
	Nah, my name, nah, it's just.
	You don't do more?
	Nah, bro.
	Oh, okay.
	I could have sworn there was a.
	Anybody else?
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, it seemed longer.
	It only seemed a little bit longer.
	I just said it's your man.
	Eric, a.k.a. Illa, a.k.a. Illosophical radio.
	That's the name of the video.
	There was another aka.
	Nah.
	There was at least three AKAs.
	Well, okay, I could be wrong.
	We got played back.
	But Ilkhan, thank you so much, man.
	Do really appreciate it.
	Okay, let's get into this.
	Get through the questionnaire as quick as possible.
	So, how tall are you, and what's both the minimum and ideal height of a man you would date?
	Go ahead.
	Your height and then minimum height for a guy?
	5'2.
	Minimum height.
	I don't know.
	I guess 6 and above.
	You said 6'7 here.
	Okay, but then.
	Let us date now.
	Let us date.
	You want to come back?
	Yes.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'3, and I would like at least 5'7.
	Yeah, you said 5'10.
	Oh, well, 5'10.
	Sound taller.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'8.5.
	I minimum, I would date, is 5'7.
	What's the ideal?
	Ideal 6'4, 6'5.
	What's your ideal?
	Ideal?
	Like, maybe 5'11 or like 6.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'3.
	Maybe 5'11.
	Was that minimum?
	Yeah.
	What's ideal?
	6'3?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'4.
	Sounds like 5'3 and a half, whatever.
	But I would say 5'5.
	Okay.
	Chloe, what about you?
	I'm 5'6.
	I prefer someone taller.
	Oh, no.
	Anybody taller, but I prefer 5'8 to 6', I think 1 or something.
	5'8 minimum, 6'1 ideal?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 4'11.
	I want a tall guy.
	Ideal 6'2, but minimum 5'10.
	All right.
	Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
	Neither.
	You gotta pick one.
	But if I had to, have to pick.
	A bear.
	A bear.
	Okay.
	Same, like ideally neither, but um, I guess I'd like the bear.
	I mean, I'm running either way, so yeah.
	Okay.
	Bear.
	Yeah.
	Man.
	Man.
	A man.
	Man.
	Bear.
	Bear.
	A man.
	So bear, bear, bear, bear.
	Why do you pick bear?
	Why don't you pick man?
	I pick bear because if I was out in the forest, especially in the area that I live in, there's a lot of crazy people.
	And a lot of people kind of live, like, I guess, like very in rural.
	The area that I'm that I live at is very rural.
	And I just know a man.
	If I saw a man in the woods, I know he'd be like probably up to something.
	And I don't know.
	I'd just be scared of getting hunted.
	What about you?
	Yeah, and then also, I forgot this saying, but I think if it's a brown bear, you're like laid down or something.
	I don't know.
	I forgot this saying, but it's something like that.
	Okay.
	Humans are smarter.
	So I would, they would strategize.
	It's a little bit more dangerous.
	Sure.
	And it was just.
	Oh, yes.
	I think I just want to get taken out as fast as possible if I was like me versus a bear versus me versus a man.
	I feel like it'd be painful either way.
	Yeah, no, I know.
	Was that the question?
	That is an interesting one.
	That is very interesting.
	Does it change for any of you if it's 10 men versus 10 or 10 men or 10 bears?
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, that's so scary.
	It's scary regardless.
	Yeah.
	Does it change your answer?
	No.
	I don't know.
	I'd have to think about it because it's like negatives on both sides.
	It might change.
	I feel like I'd pick the bears because they'd be minding their own business at that point because they have a community out there who won't pay attention to me.
	Okay.
	The 10 men, maybe bear bears.
	Why are they out in the forest?
	A couple follow-up questions then.
	Does it change anything if the animal is changed to a mountain lion?
	So man versus mountain lion?
	Mountain lion.
	Mountain lion.
	Again, I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	You gotta pick one.
	How tall is the man?
	5'10.
	Average male?
	5'10.
	He's 5'10.
	Is he fast?
	Say no.
	He's average speed.
	Okay, I think I'm pretty fast.
	I'll choose the man then.
	I think I'll still choose a mountain lion.
	Mountain lions, you pick a mountain lion.
	I've come across one, so sure.
	And it went copacetic?
	No, I was kind of scared, but I was with a group, so it was fine.
	Can I ask y'all a question, man?
	Like, this question always just throws me off because it's like there's no potential with the bear.
	There's actually a potential of getting along with the human being.
	So my question to y'all is: how often do you meet random men that scare you?
	A lot.
	Very often.
	Yeah.
	A lot.
	So that's something that's not.
	They're scary.
	Like the average guy walking down the street at the store.
	Yeah.
	But you guys literally, do you guys not go clubbing at all?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Then, so what's the like, you know how many random people and like men that are in a club?
	How many men you walk by today?
	Like on the just on the street when you're shopping.
	What do they do to you today?
	No, I'm just saying like if it was if I was in the forest and I see a man like he's probably out there hunting or something.
	Like I'm gonna be hunting.
	So you see this guy.
	You see this guy who's in fucking hiking gear and he looks really good.
	He has to make himself like what else would he also have the friendly vibe.
	Is it like an open public hiking?
	If I saw him at like Top of the World and Laguna, that's not really a forest, but like if I saw him at like Mount Baldy, if I saw him at Mountain Baldy, I go hiking there all the time.
	Depends on the time.
	Is it a hiking trail that like people go to?
	If it's like some butt-fuck fucking nowhere, like the middle buff nowhere forest, and I see a man.
	I'll give it like this.
	So it is a hiking trail, but there's no one around.
	No one for miles.
	It is a hiking trail, though.
	So the reason he might be on this trail, it could be to murder you.
	It could also be there's pretext that he's hiking.
	Okay, if it's a public hiking trail, then it might be a little safer.
	Yeah, but there's no one around.
	I'd still be scared, but it's a little bit more.
	So would you rather cross paths with the man or the bear?
	In a public hiking trail?
	Yeah, it's a public hiking trail, but there's nobody around.
	A man.
	Okay.
	If it's a public change for you, change for you, change for you.
	Yeah, a man.
	You got the meme?
	You got the meme?
	Let's pull up the meme.
	All right, brown bear, nine feet tall, 1,300 pounds, all that other shit.
	Kyle, he's 5'10, ooh, 174 pounds, project engineer, said hi to you at the gym once.
	That's an interesting thing.
	And then just curious, is there like a component here of like, yeah, the bear could kill you, but like the man could like SAU, basically?
	Yeah, no, I think the argument is that what I've seen a lot, at least with the bear argument on TikTok, is that like women have said, okay, a bear will kill you and that's it.
	Like he'll eat you, whatever.
	A man will kill you and then who knows what the hell he's gonna do with it.
	How many men have been?
	Well, I'm still alive, so nobody has done that to me yet.
	But you don't know in that situation.
	I'm saying there's crazy people.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'd rather not be in any of that.
	You walk by random people every day and 99% of them don't say shit to you.
	So why all of a sudden that?
	It's different though, because you're talking about in public.
	We're talking about a forest and I'm the only person there with a man.
	It's totally different scenario.
	You've never been left in a room with a man who's like just you and a random person like in the forest?
	No.
	No, like just say I had a house party.
	It's just like I'm saying the house party and forest are completely with alone with a man.
	You can't just be ignorant.
	It's scary.
	Wait, have you ever seen that?
	Have you ever gone home with a guy after the club?
	No.
	No.
	Not saying like you hooked up with him?
	No.
	Never?
	No.
	No.
	I went to a house party where there were multiple people, but not just one guy.
	No.
	Did you know all of those dudes?
	No.
	So they randomly.
	I mean, a lot of things go down in the houses more than they do in the woods.
	But I was also with my friends, so I wasn't alone.
	So you, okay, I guess we can't linger on this for too long, but like, so those, there's some fear here that like the guy with SAU.
	What you're doing a risk assessment.
	What is the percentage?
	Like, what percent of men do you think in this scenario would like choose to victimize a woman?
	Go ahead, starting with you.
	I'm a little confused by your question.
	Yeah, me too.
	Well, you're doing a risk assessment, right?
	So you're saying, well, yeah, bears are dangerous, but men can also be dangerous.
	And I'm determining that, well, in this scenario, I'd rather like risk the danger of the bear than the dain, the potential, the potential danger of the bear versus the potential danger of a man.
	I'm sure we all agree that the man could do nothing, the bear could do nothing, the bear could viciously murder you, the man could do worse.
	No, I think.
	But what is the actual, like, what percentage of men do you think would, for example, SA you in this situation?
	I hope none.
	No, but what do you think it would be?
	Is it no, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I can't come up with a percentage because I know you're trying to ask me the question of like, oh, not all men.
	Obviously, not all men, but why do a lot of women have stories of being essayed?
	Like, it's yes, I understand it's not all men, but why, why is it all women, basically?
	Yes.
	I have like no friends that have not been like essayed.
	I feel like every woman that I know, including like older women in my family, have all had to be.
	Yeah, we would.
	I mean, first, we would have to define like what SA means because some people, when they say essay, they include like cat calling.
	So we would have to talk, like, is this like a stranger who's like violently?
	It doesn't have to be a stranger.
	Usually it's the people closest to you.
	Sure, absolutely.
	Family members can do it, uncles, whatever.
	Which means.
	But the likelihood of a random person doing it is probably less if it's always somebody close to home.
	So the random person is actually safe according to that logic.
	Like, you don't know, like, we're out in the woods, like, who they got their chance.
	They will go for a while.
	Just smooth things on.
	What's the percentage?
	What's the percentage?
	Brian, I don't know.
	I don't know how to answer that.
	Don't ask me because I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You know, look, you don't need to be like, it's 53.37%.
	You can just be like, I think it's 60%.
	I know.
	And then you're going to be like, well, actually, it's this much.
	And then I'm going to be like, okay, wow.
	Like, what?
	Yeah.
	Like, I don't know.
	I actually, how about this?
	I will agree.
	I won't even, I won't give you the actual number.
	But I feel still because I don't know.
	I won't give you the, I won't even give you the actual number.
	You just tell me what you think.
	You're checking me out because I don't know.
	It's like hypothetically.
	Okay, 30.
	There.
	30.
	30%.
	40.
	40%.
	50.
	50%.
	50.
	You said bear?
	Oh, right.
	Did you say bear?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Or she said man, but she says 50%.
	Okay.
	I'll say 100 because I don't know.
	100%.
	You have a father?
	I do.
	So even your father?
	But again, I don't know.
	There's so many unknowns in the scenario.
	If you're not saying that.
	100% saying you're not.
	Exactly.
	You're saying it's all men.
	This goes back to this.
	It's more I'd rather be safe than sorry.
	100 is safe with a.
	So you assume that everybody is there.
	You could say 50%.
	I don't know.
	That's crazy.
	100%.
	100%.
	For somebody who don't know you, definitely.
	100%.
	That's a person.
	We've never heard of it.
	That's why whenever I go out, I go clubbing everything.
	I go with a big group of friends.
	I want that to be a 0% chance as much as possible.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I said, man.
	You're an accountant, right?
	Aren't you good with numbers?
	I'm not following the logic here.
	Like, 100%?
	To me, it's 100%.
	I know this statistically, the number is very different.
	I understand.
	I don't should go with that approach to assume 100 out of your safety, but in a conversation, that sounds kind of crazy.
	I think there's like a 5%.
	Before we came on here, this question I used to answer bear.
	But I literally just, after watching your podcast, I just Google searched it.
	And the likelihood of a man like doing anything to you, a man is more likely to get beat up in the street than a woman.
	And I was like, shocked.
	Wait, they actually tell you what percentage it actually is?
	I mean, there's like FBI, DOJ, crime statistics, like the incidence rate of this happening in like a given year to a woman.
	But that's like only like, that's been reported, right?
	Obviously, there's many, many.
	That's only reported.
	You have to.
	Yeah, I mean, we have to go off of statistics.
	You know what I mean?
	Men assaulted and don't report that too.
	Yeah, that's why I'm saying that's my whole point.
	Yeah, but even the reported ones, like they either there's no corroborate, or what's it called?
	There's no corroborating evidence.
	There's that, there's like false accusations, this sort of thing.
	So even like among the reported cases, like there's still some doubts as to like what actually happened.
	Yeah, because these days you could whistle at a chick and it depends how you take it.
	It's awful.
	Nobody should be, or like, not the whistle.
	I mean, yeah, the whistling too, cat counting out.
	I guess, what is cat calling it?
	It's like the girl.
	I mean, I know what it is, but hey, hot.
	What's going on?
	You look good.
	Can I holler at you?
	That's cat calling.
	Yeah.
	Is it?
	So a man can't say that.
	It's like, though.
	I feel like that's a matter of fact.
	So that's offensive if a man whistles at you?
	He's a whistle at men.
	No, I feel like cat calling's like you're not actually approaching the girl genuinely.
	She's like walking by and you're like kind of saying something a bit like offensive.
	Nice titties or I don't know.
	It could be, it could even be like, hey, I feel like even girls, like if a guy says, hey, beautiful and that's it, I think some girl, I think some girls will say that's cat calling.
	I think a lot of girls would say that's cat calling.
	I've seen girls say, I don't, I'm tired of men calling me beautiful.
	Well, damn, what the fuck do you want to say?
	I wish, you know, it'd be nice if I think women should get revenge.
	How?
	Oh, they got it.
	You guys should start cat calling the dudes.
	In fact, you also need to get revenge for dick pics.
	So you guys got to just start sending clam pics.
	You guys got to start sending pussy pucks.
	You know what I mean?
	Start, hey, revenge, revenge.
	And then you're going to say, oh, that's not a traditional woman.
	Yeah, I know.
	We can never win.
	Anything we do, anything we do.
	As long as it's just to me, she can still be traditional.
	Just don't take nudes.
	Just saying.
	Okay, wait.
	Two things.
	Don't take nudes.
	Don't.
	So, anyways, I guess, how about this?
	Does this change anything?
	Would you rather be in a 10 by 10 room alone with a random man or a random bear?
	Does that change anything?
	So it's a room.
	Yeah.
	You prefer switch to man?
	Yeah, man.
	Man?
	Man.
	I assume you're in this city already.
	And then how about do you guys?
	Are you guys aware of the whole like wait one sec?
	There was this.
	Oh, sorry, wrongful for the delay.
	I'm going to let this one come through.
	Appreciate it.
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	More than once tonight.
	Ye hands shall reap barren fields of woe.
	Is me.
	Yes.
	That's awesome.
	Yo, W's in the chat for wrongful rage.
	What's up?
	Oh, I'm confused.
	No, I'm confused because that's the second message that has come up that says that I lied, but I don't know what I lied about.
	I have no idea.
	Or maybe it's like you said you were like doing it intentionally or something, like when you were going at Andrew.
	I don't know.
	Rachel.
	Wait, the bear thing?
	Oh, the so like when it comes to like the whole bathroom thing with like the trans stuff, do you think that's like fair game then?
	Like you know how like conservatives don't want like transgender women to go into women's bathrooms?
	Like so basically like it's a male, it's a transgender woman going into a women's bathroom.
	Like do you think that all of you that picked Bear, do you think that's fair for conservatives to say?
	Yes.
	Yes, I do.
	You think that's fair?
	I feel like you can't really tell if they're like a like trans.
	You can't tell.
	Well, I thought I can tell.
	Maybe there's some people that you can tell, but a lot of trans people, they like passing.
	Okay, well, how about this?
	Whether they're passing or not, they're still technically a male.
	Well, I don't know.
	I'm not going to go under the stall and be like, hey, just checking if you know.
	Okay, so if they're not, so you're saying if they're not passing, then they shouldn't be able to go into the bathroom.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I really don't care as long as you're going in there to piss, do your business.
	Right, but they're going in there and I'm out.
	They're a male potentially going in there with a single female, right?
	So like, let's say the, I mean, but you pick Bear, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So are you fine with conservatives saying they're uncomfortable with even conservative women?
	They're uncomfortable with the idea of a transgender woman who's a male going into the woman's bathroom.
	I don't know.
	What do you mean you don't know?
	I don't know.
	Why are you so quick to like pick the okay.
	And then, what about you?
	You picked the bear.
	Are you fine with conservatives on this position?
	I mean, people just have conservatives, obviously, are going to have their different opinions, but me, like, if someone wants to say that they're transgender and they identify with that, with that, then that's on them.
	Like, I'm not going to have an issue with it.
	They didn't go into the bathroom with you with his joint stress.
	If they say that they identify as a woman and that's the gender that they choose to be, then what am I going to do about it?
	No, no, I'm just saying we could do something about it.
	Well, it's no longer going to be a man if they said they're transgender.
	If he still has a penis and he goes in the bathroom with you, you cool with that?
	Okay.
	Wait, I have a question.
	Going back to the bear in the forest scenario, how about this?
	You're going to cross paths with somebody who's either transgender or a cross-dresser.
	So the cross-dresser and you haven't talked to them.
	So you don't know their gender identity.
	So the cross-dresser in this case is still a man.
	He just enjoys dressing up as a woman.
	But because this would be your same metric that you use for trying to make a determination whether somebody is transgender, would you then, if you see someone in the forest who could be a cross-dresser or could be transgender, a transgender woman, does it change?
	I don't think so.
	So you still pick bear?
	I think so.
	Even if I saw a woman.
	Yeah, do you pick woman over bear?
	I think it really depends.
	Do you pick woman over bear?
	Woman over bear.
	No, I'd still probably choose the bear.
	I think it's honestly like just the forest that creeps me out.
	Do you think the woods just bring murder out of the woman?
	We got to change the setting.
	So what's the setting that brings the kill out of y'all since it's the woods for us?
	I mean, I don't think about murder.
	Victoria's secret or some shit.
	Where do we take y'all that we need to be nervous about?
	Because obviously the woods is where we turn into murderers.
	I'm not.
	Where do we take y'all?
	Y'all get crazy.
	The mall.
	The mall.
	Okay, thanks for telling me.
	Give me the bail of a woman in the mall.
	Oh, the mall on Black Friday.
	And then what do you think about like the whole bathroom?
	I don't know if you got to answer the bathroom one.
	I don't really care.
	But then, Ken, same to what she said, if I saw a single woman in the forest, I think I'm just scared of the forest in general.
	Yeah, but so with the bathroom scenario, I get that you guys wouldn't care if like a transgender woman used the bathroom, but like, so here's the conservative angle here: the conservatives would argue, we want to ban transgender women from being able to use the bathroom.
	Would you, I'm, is it fair to assume you guys would fight against this sort of legislation?
	That's it.
	Yeah, because then I feel like.
	Where did they pee then?
	Yeah, like, is there going to be somebody standing?
	Let me just ask you this.
	Is there somebody going to be standing at the door and just be like, okay, I'm just going to, you know, I got to see what's in between your legs?
	No, that's not going to happen.
	You know?
	Well, yeah, that would be a problem.
	How are they going to ban trans people from going into the restrooms if they can pass?
	No one's going to be standing at the door checking everybody.
	Yeah, that's not what we're arguing.
	Like, there's different sorts of enforcement mechanisms.
	They don't have to be preventative.
	It could be like after the fact.
	Like if it was criminalized, for example, it would be like after the fact, sort of some sort of criminal process.
	If it was a crime, maybe it starts with a fine.
	I don't know the exact details of it.
	But no, that's not what I'm suggesting.
	That there's like a bathroom monitor.
	I don't know.
	I guess it requires a lot of self-accountability to know that you had surgery and going to the all-gender bathroom as opposed to the men's.
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	By Bang's logic, it sounds like she is okay with men coming into the woman's bathroom as long as he is staying in the store.
	Also, English plurals are hard, but ESL is not an excuse.
	ESL.
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	Do appreciate the TTS.
	It sounds like she's okay with men coming into the women's bathroom.
	Huh.
	I don't know.
	It's just like interesting to me.
	Are y'all cool with trans women competing with natural women?
	No.
	But why not?
	They can come to the bathroom with y'all.
	I said no to the bathroom.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	You think that you compete with women?
	So I put on mine that I think men are physically stronger than women.
	Okay.
	So in that aspect, if they haven't gone the hormones and everything, and I don't know too much detail about it, but if they don't have that and already develop the muscles for as like a man, then no.
	So you think if a man cuts off his member, that will equate him to the strength of a woman so they can compete now?
	Not at all.
	Because I think especially the age that you can cut it off, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's you have to be of legal age, right?
	So then you'd already develop the muscles.
	So I don't think it'd be right for trans women to be competing.
	So why is it right for them to go in the bathroom with women then?
	It's a different.
	I mean, are you competing to go with me to be?
	I'm just trying to figure out, like, because it's like once you open one door, you got to open them all.
	I don't think you have to open it all.
	We don't, but they do.
	It's okay.
	Well, there's an all-gender restroom these days everywhere.
	There's an all-gender restroom over there.
	Yeah.
	It's fine.
	But we can't go in together.
	That ain't all gender restroom.
	I mean, if you want to, it could.
	No.
	There is unisex bathrooms in some club in Atlanta, though.
	Once they're back, I'll get through the rest of the things.
	But Anai, you said, do transgender, well, the question, it's yes or no.
	Do transgender individuals have a duty to disclose to romantic partners to which you said no?
	Yeah.
	So you don't think that transgender women or men should disclose to partners that they're transgender?
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	I did not think.
	I didn't.
	I totally misread that question.
	I even chat.
	I even redid my entire questionnaire to switch it from do you disagree to just simple yes or no?
	I'm sorry.
	I got rid of the double negative.
	I misread the question.
	It's totally fine.
	So the question next is, is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman to which you said maybe?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	I'm very unsure.
	You skipped.
	Do you have thoughts on this?
	Oh, yeah.
	I thought it was very like if it, because as long as they disclose it and then the person in the relationship is okay with it, then yeah.
	Then it would be straight?
	Oh, okay.
	Do you think a man is straight if he deals with a trans woman?
	You think he's still straight?
	Wouldn't it be straight the other way?
	Like, so the transgender woman doesn't disclose, which I think is wrong, but doesn't disclose, and the man is essentially tricked into believing that it's an actual woman.
	Well, I don't think that would be straight, but he got tricked.
	Yeah, no, regardless, like, I think that that information should be disclosed.
	You think it should be disclosed?
	Oh, yeah, 100%.
	I think the partner has the right to know.
	Yeah, but assuming there is a disclosure, is it straight for a man to date a transgender woman?
	Yeah.
	Yes?
	Okay.
	On the same question?
	Yeah.
	I think I put no.
	I don't know.
	Honestly, both.
	You were in the middle.
	Yeah, I'm very neutral about that.
	Like, all right.
	No, I don't think it is.
	You said it's no, it's not straight.
	You said yes, it is straight, Chloe.
	So I think that was a yes, a maybe, a yes, and a maybe.
	How is it still straight, though, when he's not even dealing with a vagina?
	I think it's also not my place to judge.
	Yeah, we're not judging.
	We're just not judging.
	We're just looking, calling, it's like I'm calling that wig pink.
	It's pink.
	But if a transgender, you know, woman claims themselves as a woman and the man is attracted to that, then but he would like he could either be like gay or pansexual.
	He wouldn't be straight.
	I mean, he can be, but I mean, he could be attracted to like the like a lot of transgenders these days, like they're very beautiful, like feminine.
	Right, I agree with you that they can trick men.
	But no one is ever.
	I agree with you that it can be deceptive.
	But why all these labels?
	Like, oh, I'm 100% straight.
	Like, no one's there.
	Like, they were males.
	But so, I guess when it comes to dating, right, like, if there's a sexual encounter and this individual still has a penis, you would have, under those circumstances, I don't know.
	If they still have a penis, then no, I wouldn't really, I wouldn't think they're straight.
	Maybe pan or bi.
	But what, so what would be the difference, though?
	What do you mean?
	Well, you said it would be like I can get that some transgender women can look like women.
	But like once the disclosure is made and it's clear, I don't know whether it's pre-op or post-operative.
	I just don't know in what world it could ever be straight or heterosexual.
	Well, like you said, if the transgender woman still has a penis, then I wouldn't assume the person that they're romantically in a relationship is fully straight.
	But it's not my place to judge, like I said with Chloe on some about someone's sexuality and their preferences.
	Yeah, that'd be totally fine.
	But even I would go even further and say, even if this individual has had an operation to turn a penis into a neo-vagina, as it's called, even then, I don't think that that would be straight.
	Which is okay, but that's the way you think.
	Well, no, it's not just how I think.
	It's just pure fact.
	Isn't that pansexual?
	Sure, it would be pansexual.
	But it wouldn't be straight.
	What is pansex?
	I mean, pansexual would be like attraction.
	I would argue that it would not, it would be technically homosexual, but pansexual is like attraction to transgender people or non-binary or whatever.
	What's your question?
	Go ahead.
	like okay if the trans person were to have like the surgery to you know to like get that but um like what is your oh i don't know i guess i was just gonna say like what makes never mind I don't want to say that.
	What's the word?
	Brian, your eyes would it be straight if the person had the surgery?
	No, that would still not be straight.
	I just get confused because it's still biologically chromosome.
	Down to the chromosomes, you're still a man.
	I mean, if you're looking at the actual terminology, so you have heterosexual and homosexual, right?
	So like there's an indicator there, even in the word itself, sex, sexual.
	So when we're talking about heterosexual, homosexual, it's always pointed to the sex in which you're attracted.
	We talk about opposite sex and same-sex relationship.
	We don't say opposite gender or opposite or same gender.
	We say same-sex relationship, that sort of thing.
	And so even going ahead and granting that a transgender woman, the gender identity is a woman, the sex has not changed.
	You can't change your sex.
	So a transgender woman is still male.
	Two males engaging in a romantic or sexual relationship is homosexual by definition.
	could never be straight okay so you i'm just trying to clarify um Because they were born with XY chromosomes, that makes it not straight, even though they had the surgery.
	I mean, I just want to clarify.
	There is no surgery to change your chromosomes.
	So it's not just.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just saying like the surgery, like the down there surgery, you know.
	They still produce testosterone, though.
	They still.
	So you're saying they have the surgery, right?
	Yeah.
	How about they have the surgery, but they still identify as a man?
	So they have the surgery and they're like, yeah.
	They have the surgery, but they still identify as a man.
	I don't think they would do that.
	Let's say they did.
	I don't know.
	Some people are yay.
	Let's just, let's just be objective here.
	Objectively speaking, yes, there's only two sexes, male and female.
	Whatever you, if you're transgender and like your sexuality is your choice.
	But I do think you need to disclose if you're transgender.
	But if we're being just pragmatic, yes.
	Practically.
	Male and female.
	Boom.
	Boom.
	Is that objectively or just realistically speaking?
	Because I think we try to make it seem it's not the same thing, though, because it's like some things are objectively seen.
	Okay, realistically, sure, yes.
	Male and female, God made Adam and Eve.
	There you go.
	Boom.
	Answer's done.
	Let's move on.
	Is this like a sensitive subject?
	Let's move on.
	Like, I just feel like there's more topics to talk about.
	Yeah, sure.
	Like, sexuality, like, is a choice, like, what you want to do.
	But, like, if we're a choice?
	Cancer.
	Like, sexuality is a choice.
	Yeah, like, if you want to be, like, gay, then be gay.
	If you want to be straight, be straight.
	But if we're talking about like gender, yes, there's only male and female.
	Well, the reason I bring this up, and it is dating related, is like, not all, but there is a push by activists to try to shame straight men to essentially call straight men bigots because you won't have sex or engage in a romantic relationship with a transgender woman.
	If you're transgender, I have no problems with you.
	Like, go, whatever, go do it.
	Maybe wait until you're 18 to get whatever.
	But in any case, don't hate you.
	Want you to have the best life possible, whatever that entails.
	But if you're going to tell me that I'm a bigot and you're going to question my sexuality and you're going to say, I'm transphobic or that I, you're attacking my sexuality in the same way that a gay man might object to like having people question his sexuality.
	And if you were to question a gay man and say, you don't really like other men, you like women.
	Gay men would find this incredibly offensive.
	In that same way, I don't like it when straight people are attacked for having preferences for dating the opposite sex.
	Wait, who's saying that, though?
	There are activists and there are women at this table who said that you guys said that it would be straight for a man to date a transgender woman.
	And as a representative of the heterosexual community, no, it would not be straight.
	And you're basically trying to dictate to me what my sexuality is in the same way that it would be offensive to dictate to a gay man.
	Oh, no, you're not actually gay.
	You're attracted to women.
	It's just a, you know, no.
	Well, yeah, I don't know.
	It's all about preference, you know?
	Do y'all agree with that, though?
	Do you want to date a transgender woman?
	No, right?
	No.
	Then I don't see the problem here because I'm not going to be able to do that.
	Well, the problem becomes, if we allow society, if we allow, if we seed ground on this, and then we start saying, well, it's okay for you to call me a bigot because I don't want to date a transgender woman.
	I'm not willing to.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm not saying anybody here did, but there are people saying that it's wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they're transgender.
	And I'm not willing to seed that societal collapse.
	I'm not willing to seed that.
	I think you have like a really good point there.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	I think you should.
	I don't think we can speak on this because we're not transgender women so that's what we're talking about.
	Oh, but you're straight women.
	So we don't have a stake in it.
	No, you do have a stake.
	I think you should invite somebody who does have that experience so they can.
	I don't think for a second.
	Well, I don't think we need transgender people at this table to have this conversation.
	And we have had transgender people on the show.
	And I agree with them because at the end of the day, they're trying to be something, no offense to them.
	They're trying to be something that we are.
	That's like if I'm trying to misappropriate your culture, you have a place to say that.
	Please do great food.
	Spread it around.
	You say what?
	You have great food.
	You have great food.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just saying, but if I was trying to let you know, if I was trying to misrepresent where you from Taiwan.
	So if I came into the table and I started making claims of what a Taiwanese man or woman is, and it's inaccurate, you definitely have a right to speak on that because you actually are that.
	And I'm speaking from the outside.
	So I think what he's saying is, since we're men and women, we should have an opinion on people who want what we have and is trying to change reality according to that.
	Because I don't think he's saying we're trying to down them, but if a trans there are people out here saying that if you're a regular straight man and you are not attracted or you're pushing back the advances of a trans woman, something is wrong with you to the point where it can jeopardize your life in some means or way.
	Do you all agree with that?
	So it's wrong.
	What you're saying is that some, like there's pushback, there's narrative.
	There's some people that are too woke.
	You know, is that what you're saying?
	That ain't even awake.
	You're totally asleep.
	I don't even think that's their way.
	I'm going to.
	Do you agree with that?
	There's just so much going on.
	But yeah, I think you did make it.
	Can you scoot the mic to the point?
	We have Il Ken back.
	Yo, what's up, man?
	Thank you so much for the soup chat.
	Dude, is that him?
	Is that him in the profile picture?
	Yeah, damn.
	That's a Giga Chad right there, bro.
	Look at that.
	Hey, do this thing.
	You know, that thing.
	Ladies, if you put a trans woman on island with 100 men in 100 years, how many kids would be on that island and why?
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Yo, thank you so much for the soup chat, man.
	W's in the chat for Il Khan.
	How do you say it?
	Ilkan?
	Il Khan Ali.
	Il Khan Ali.
	Thank you so much for the soup chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	That would be a big fat zero.
	Okay, moving on off of this topic.
	Only one of you are men physically stronger than women.
	To which, Carissa, you wrote you're like maybe like half and half?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Did you mean like there are some women that are stronger than men?
	I would agree with that.
	Yeah.
	But like generally speaking, would you say most men?
	Men are stronger than women.
	Is that a fair statement to say?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But, you know, a lot of women go really hard in the gym.
	I mean, I would, sure, yeah, absolutely.
	There's a lot of like.
	Some of them have like really huge muscles, and I'm just like, whoa.
	Right.
	But like, how about the following statement?
	99% of men are stronger than 99% of women.
	Fair?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, then we won't linger on that.
	Can women, the question is, can women be sexist towards men?
	To which you said no.
	You left it blank.
	Did you have thoughts on that?
	I think it's like 50-50, but yeah.
	It's the what?
	I think it's like 50-50.
	Like, yes, there are times where girls can be sexist, and then also it's like not a large part.
	Okay.
	Carissa, you said no to that.
	Chloe, you said yes.
	Ashley, you said yes.
	So you guys think women cannot be sexist towards men.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then I think you said that too.
	So women cannot be sexist towards men.
	You said it was like both.
	It was 50-50.
	But you said that women cannot be sexist towards men.
	I just don't know.
	I do agree with Elsie, though.
	It could be 50-50.
	I mean, it's kind of a yes or no question.
	The question is: can so the question is, can women be sexist towards men?
	To which you said no.
	Okay, well, yes.
	Well, I'm not trying to force your answer here.
	Whatever you think is whatever you think.
	Yeah.
	So you change your mind.
	Okay.
	Is it still 50-50 for you?
	Well, you said yes or no, so I'll just say yes.
	Okay.
	So I guess that leaves you.
	Anahee, why is it that women cannot be sexist towards men?
	Because I feel like you have to be in a position of power to be sexist, you know?
	Yeah, so the prejudice equal, or sorry, it's sexism equals prejudice plus power, right?
	Yeah.
	And is that what you were kind of thinking initially?
	Yeah, but it's also anyone can be sexist or like, for example, yeah, we'll just say, yeah.
	Yes, everyone can be sexist to anyone.
	Okay, all right.
	So women can't be sexist towards men.
	Okay.
	And so, how about we give an example?
	Let's say Kamala Harris had just won the presidency instead of Trump, right?
	And Kamala Harris is looking to hire a janitor.
	She refuses to hire a male janitor because he's male.
	Would this be sexist?
	No.
	What would it be?
	What?
	What would it be?
	I don't know.
	Would it be prejudice?
	No, because, okay, you made the differentiation that you can be like prejudice, but like sexism entails prejudice plus power, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so would she be sexist?
	Well, if she didn't want to hire a man, then that's okay because I totally understand her because men can't claim that well, anyways.
	But is it sexist?
	Hold on.
	Most men are janitors, but what?
	Is it sexist?
	I just don't know really how to answer your question.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't really know how to answer your question.
	Is this a question?
	No, no, no.
	You can say, so your position is, your position is, in order to be sexist, there has to be prejudice plus power, right?
	So is she being prejudiced or is she being sexist?
	I guess prejudice, yeah.
	Okay, so just to be clear, Kamala Harris, president of the United States of America, the most powerful country in the world.
	She's the most powerful woman in the world.
	She's the most powerful person in the world.
	She is in charge of the executive branch of the United States government, which is a system.
	Prejudice, or sorry, sexism equals prejudice plus power.
	Does Kamala Harris have power, more power than the male janitor?
	Well, I guess in this story, since she is president, she does have some more power.
	No, she doesn't just have some power.
	She has the most power.
	Yeah, the most power.
	So I'm meeting your own definition of sexism.
	So is she sexist?
	Dude.
	You're trying to trap me.
	I'm not trying to trap.
	You just need to concede.
	It's like, what time is it in your time?
	You don't want to talk to me about that.
	You just need to concede.
	You need to concede on the point.
	I'm just tired, bro.
	But I'm using your definition.
	I'm not trying to be like, actually, that's not the definition.
	Like, anybody can be sexist towards anybody.
	Not going to happen.
	Like, I don't think so.
	Yeah, but I'm using your definition.
	So you said sexism equals prejudice plus power.
	You've just said, I'm even fulfilling your own definition.
	Okay.
	She has power.
	She's being prejudiced.
	Sexism equals prejudice plus power.
	Is she being sexist?
	I'm literally walking in this.
	And literally.
	Okay, and I just said no, yes, and then like you didn't mad.
	I'm literally hand-holding you to the finish.
	Okay.
	Why is it so hard for you to just say that a woman can be confused?
	Are you confused on a question?
	No, I'm like genuinely tired.
	I just can't admit that a woman can be sexist.
	No, because you can't.
	You can.
	And you, based on the definition that you said, that's the scenario.
	That's just such a hypothetical, though.
	What do you mean?
	Hypotheticals are to test your logic.
	Okay.
	And I don't even agree with your definition, but I'm granting it anyways.
	Okay.
	What?
	What do you want me to do?
	Look at this time.
	I'm so tired, dude.
	You know my situation.
	Like, I'm literally reaching my face.
	Okay, fine.
	Like the hypothetical, you don't like the hypothetical.
	So, I mean, that's just not an excuse to like just disengage, but I'll give you a more realistic hypothetical then.
	So, because Kamala Harris is not the president of the United States, sorry, does this change anything?
	So, you acknowledge that there are women CEOs?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you acknowledge that they're like millionaire women or billionaire women?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so these do actually exist, right?
	Would a female CEO, if she refused to hire entry-level workers that were men, who came from like a either a low to middle, low to middle class, right?
	She refused to hire men for entry worker positions.
	Would this be sexism?
	Yeah.
	Is that what you want me to say?
	Dude, like, it's not.
	Like, if that's not, my answer, any of my answers is not good enough for you.
	If that's your actual answer, yes, yes.
	But is that your actual answer?
	Or are you just saying, yes.
	Okay, so you think that would be sexist?
	Yes.
	Beautiful.
	There we go.
	Beautiful.
	I'm not sure if that's actually true, but I'll accept it.
	I'll accept it.
	Okay.
	Can be, can, or actually, hold on.
	Let me go to.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy and/or sold picks?
	You had a sugar daddy?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You sold picks too on OnlyFans, of course.
	None.
	No, no, no.
	And no.
	Do you have any disagreements with show hosts?
	You said yes, everything.
	Not yet for you.
	No for you.
	No for you.
	I don't have your thing here, Darkavia, but no for you.
	Not really.
	Okay.
	The next one is, oh, we have a chat here from Joe Murphy.
	He says, first world issue, a man.
	Can I have you read it?
	Yeah.
	First world issue, a man in the forest for 10 days.
	Would you prefer a 50-50 feminist woman or man who could potentially grape you?
	Bears, lions, and alligators excluded.
	Logically, what makes sense?
	Do you prefer a 50-50 feminist woman?
	What even is this question?
	I don't get it.
	He lost me.
	Would you prefer a 50-50 feminist woman?
	Wait, a 50-50 feminist woman or a man?
	Wait, is this the question for the man?
	I don't know.
	Well, thanks.
	I have no idea.
	What?
	Joe.
	Wait, Joe, can you send.
	Can you clarify?
	Because I genuinely don't understand.
	All right, we have, let's see here.
	Going to Anay, we need you back so we can get through this.
	We have women in town.
	Right, right, right.
	Okay, thank you for that.
	I appreciate it.
	She does.
	She did clear the heart out early, but you said to the question, can people be racist towards white people?
	You said no.
	You said no.
	Michelle, yes.
	Carissa, no.
	Chloe, no.
	Ashley, sorry, you get skipped.
	It's fine.
	I think so.
	Everybody said no.
	Was that except for.
	I didn't say no.
	I said yes.
	So who said yes?
	I did.
	I did too.
	You said, so yes, you can be racist towards white people.
	No, no, no, no.
	Why not?
	Because I think it, like my answer to the last question, I think you have to come from like a place of power.
	And obviously, I think the majority of the time throughout history, like white people have kind of always had like, you know, they've been like the colonizers and like, you know, so systemic, systemic stuff.
	Yeah.
	Does it, do you also use the same definition?
	So racism equals prejudice plus power?
	Why do you say no?
	Because white people were the original, like, were originally racist to black people.
	So, how are we gonna just be racist?
	Like, I don't know.
	I just feel like white people have so much power and privilege.
	So, you can't be racist towards them.
	No.
	Okay.
	I was gonna say the same thing as Elsie.
	I'm gonna say, that's your answer.
	You know, you could just have like a unique thought.
	That would be nice.
	But what about you?
	Sorry, roasted.
	Oh.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, go ahead.
	I think in America, since white people are the majority of the population, I think in America, you can't be racist.
	But if you go to Asia, different people.
	So, like, a white person in Asia, the country could be racist towards them.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You can definitely exclude somebody and be mean.
	But I do think you can't really be like, oh, shit, they're being racist to me because I'm white.
	That just doesn't exist.
	So, but, question for you.
	So, like, let's say a Mexican gang targets a white individual because they're white and like physically assaults them or murders them because they're white, would that be racism?
	Can you give me more context?
	Because, like, are they doing it in the middle of the city?
	So, you know, like with violent street gangs, there's sometimes gang initiations where they'll just randomly target somebody.
	For example, like up in Northern California, there was a lot of like, there's a lot of, I don't know if it was necessarily street gangs, but there's a lot of violence towards like Asian Americans, for example.
	And they were specifically targeted for violence.
	We can get that's kind of separate, but a violent street gang targets a white person, they're totally innocent, and they're targeting them because they're white.
	Would this be racism?
	So, since we love hypotheticals on the show, I don't think it is because, unless they are, I truly don't think it is.
	Oh, so that is just like the worst hypothetical ever.
	How is that a bad hypothetical?
	Because it's just like, I don't know, I'm not going to speak for all Mexicans, but I'm just saying like a white street gang sees a black man, and how about a white neo-Nazi street gang sees a black man and they target him because he's black and they murder him because he's black.
	Is that racism?
	Absolutely, because obviously they have the neo-naz, Nazi whatever, and they're white, they come from a place of power.
	Yes, that's how is it not the other way around?
	I think, I think, and we had this issue last time.
	Yeah, I think y'all don't, it's the difference between systematic racism and individual racism.
	Systematic racism is when your racism can prohibit someone from upward mobility.
	Then you have individual racism with saying, you can't come in my store.
	There's no power attached to that, but it's still racism.
	So, I think y'all confusing the two.
	You can still not have power and be racist.
	I can say, I'm not giving you, I don't want to talk to you because you're white or you whatever.
	I don't have power to stop you from getting money.
	I don't have power to stop you from living your life, but I have the power to say I don't like you.
	That's still racism.
	Okay, yeah, I think I like the way you explained it.
	Like, maybe, yeah, you can be like racist or prejudiced toward one person, but I don't think it's but I don't think you can do it to a whole group of people, you know?
	I'm saying it's a system, and then there's individual racism.
	Yeah, um, what about like inter-minority, like, can inter-minority racism exist?
	So, like, excluding, like, white people, like, if we like, what about can Asians be racist towards black people?
	Yeah, Asians can be racist towards anybody toward anybody.
	Asians can be racist towards Asians.
	Even Mexicans, Mexicans are.
	You know what?
	You want to know, fun fact, Koreans can be racist towards Koreans.
	Oh, with South and North, we're going there.
	No, this is Koreans can be racist towards Korean Americans.
	Is it because like there's classism or that sort of thing?
	I mean, classism is a part, but like it's just more so, like, yeah, like they, I've been, I've been denied into a club once because they're like, you're from California in Korea, and I'm Korean.
	I speak fluent Korean.
	I don't know if that can call that racism, though.
	No, they don't want foreigners.
	They consider us foreigners.
	I think that's racist.
	Yeah, that's like everywhere, though.
	Like, anywhere you're going to go, the year of foreigners.
	But like, wait.
	But would that be like an.
	I don't know if there's a different word for like nationality.
	I don't know.
	Because like, huh?
	I don't know.
	I'd have to think about that one.
	That's interesting.
	Everyone can be racist.
	That's just my opinion.
	But wait.
	Okay.
	How about this?
	Can Asian people be racist towards white people?
	Wait, are you a couple?
	Are you heard my answer?
	She said no.
	Is it no?
	It's no.
	Sorry.
	Wait, are you?
	Even with the systematic argument, you still saying no?
	I think I don't, I could get a lot into it.
	We could go to a whole debate about model minority and everything.
	But for this one, I in America, systematically.
	Like if you got an Asian store, right?
	You got a store in America.
	Yeah.
	You say, I'm not serving this white man.
	Is that racism?
	Okay, let me start from your example.
	Hypothetically, if I have a store as an Asian, I reject a white man.
	I reject Brian.
	I'm like, you can't shop here.
	You're white.
	Get out of here.
	And like, absolutely heartbroken.
	They're very pale.
	So because I'm like a hater of him, apparently, I think, in a way, systematically, maybe systematically, no.
	Because later on, if he can call the police and the police would arrest me because I refused to service for him based on the basis of his race.
	But he has that advantage to him because he can immediately call up the police and it will be in his favor.
	Versus, say, this same story hypothetically happened in Asia.
	If, say, you created a store in Asia and you refused an Asian, the police are likely going to be on the Asian side rather than your side.
	So it'd be racism against your favor.
	But I think we're still talking about two different things, though.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm trying to parse that.
	No, sorry.
	Let me try to rephrase it then, maybe.
	So, say, for example, here, I'm the minority and I reject you, the majority, and that's, I say, it's not racism.
	I'm not even sure if it's a crime.
	Like, it might, there could be like a civil action.
	Yeah, because it has different.
	The police, I don't think, would arrest you.
	I don't think that's like a crime.
	I agree.
	I think if you build enough cases of where you reject white people, then there could be like a civil action, but I don't think there would be like a crime.
	But you don't think that's still racism?
	This may not be systematic racism.
	In other words, that racism isn't supported by the governmental structure, but that still doesn't mean it's not racism.
	It's just on an individual level.
	It doesn't have the racism to change your life, but it's still racism.
	I want to come back to this in just a sec, but Anahee, final hypothetical for you here: Barack Obama, when he was president, two terms when he was president.
	Same hypothetical.
	He refuses to hire a janitor because the janitor is white.
	And this janitor came from a very he's lives in poverty, low socioeconomic status.
	He refuses to hire the janitor because he's white.
	Is this racism?
	Individual racism, yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, she's making it.
	She's learning.
	She's making some progress.
	Good for you, Ana.
	Let me see if there's any other controversial things you said here.
	I don't know.
	But I don't know if you wanted to have more of a back and forth with Chloe.
	I'm so tired.
	I think that's the best we can get, man.
	Okay, well, I'll move on from that topic.
	I do think it is pretty interesting, though.
	I mean, I think you can be right.
	Anybody can be racist towards anybody.
	It's just and yeah.
	I think that you mentioned, like, if I was in an Asian country and I had the store.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	I don't know if, like, if I went to China, I don't even know if I would be allowed to operate a business in China.
	And, like, I don't know.
	Well, that's getting into a whole nother geopolitical thing.
	But are men the primary victims of war?
	To which Anahe, you say yes.
	Primary victims of what?
	Primary victims of war.
	You said yes, they are.
	Did you have a thought on this one?
	You left it blank.
	Yeah, I left it blank because I don't feel like I have enough information or I don't know enough in order to make that sort of opinion or comment.
	But Carissa, you also no opinion on that?
	Men are the victims of war, but men also send men to war.
	Sure, yeah.
	They do.
	They still, that means they're still the victim.
	Chloe, you said you said both.
	Yes and no.
	Are men the primary victims of war?
	So are you like kind of in the middle?
	Is it you think it's both equal?
	You think it's equal between men and women?
	I think if the men started it, yes, because oftentimes like for the USA, for a lot of countries, men are required to be scripted.
	Is that the word?
	Conscripted, yeah.
	Conscripted into the military.
	And so as a result, they are unfortunately victims of the war.
	But I'm also thinking of like the at-home kind of impact on like the wives at home and everything from the most recent wars that we've had in America, where it's just a very big impact, not just like a physical loss, but also like a mental loss, financial loss, everything.
	Well, I mean, so looking at like one individual level, like, so let's say there's one military death and it's a man and then he has a wife and then he has two kids, a boy and a girl.
	Who would the, I guess, who's the primary victim of war?
	Is it equal or?
	I think it depends on how you define it.
	Primary.
	If you think loss of life is the biggest victimization, then it would be the man.
	I would have to agree that yes, it would be the.
	I mean, do you not think it's the biggest victimization?
	If you want to go into a lot of different things, we can, but because then the woman at that point, she's kind of living a life where she has to financial ramifications, maybe.
	She can always find a man, though.
	Once you did, you did.
	And what if she doesn't?
	But it also takes part if the guy willingly joined a war, knowing that there's like a possible chance that he's going to die.
	So he willingly did that to himself.
	Well, what's more likely to be resurrected from the dead or to find another husband?
	But like, I'm just saying, people willingly go to war.
	People willingly go to war and fight for the country because that's what they believe.
	I mean, a lot of, but here's the thing, right?
	Like, there has to, you have to do some sort of analysis on like the sort of social, the social reality when it comes to like a lot of men will turn to the military for like financial reasons.
	So like we can make an argument, like, oh man, this, these people are like victims of circumstance and like maybe they joined during peacetime and they're like going in.
	They're young, they're 17, 18 years old, 17, 18 years old.
	We're almost done, guys.
	We're almost done.
	Like drafted?
	She had a heart out, so she cleared it with us before.
	What's that?
	Like the kids being drafted.
	No, I'm just saying, like these men, they're like young.
	They've got recruiters in their ear at 17, 18 years old.
	They're promised a car.
	They're promised free education.
	They're promised XYZ.
	Army of One, blah, blah, blah.
	All that shit, right?
	And then they join peacetime.
	And then 9-11, boom.
	Okay.
	Now you're in fucking Afghanistan or Iraq or some bullshit like that.
	Fucking doing like asymmetrical warfare, like fuck urban warfare, like some, and there's a all kinds of crazy shit.
	But also, you mentioned like men start the wars, but I would say like they're actually not the ones that even get victimized.
	Arguably the men, I'm not sure if it has to do with their gender, more so with the fact that they're in positions of power, which is kind of irrelevant when it comes to gender.
	That really doesn't do anything for the like thousands or tens of thousands or millions or hundreds of thousands of 18-year-olds who are going to go fight the war.
	They didn't contribute in any capacity.
	Yeah, there was no contribution on like some 18-year-old boy in Oklahoma when it came to like getting involved in like some Middle Eastern like dispute dispute.
	Sorry, fucking so, okay.
	All right.
	How about this?
	If a woman's pregnant, she has a husband, and she goes through the pain of, let's say, the, and I'm going to categorize pain as like some level of suffering.
	She goes through the pain of carrying the child and going through childbirth, which from reports is very painful or can be very painful.
	Is the man the primary victim of the woman's pregnancy because he has to like see her suffer?
	Or is the woman the primary sufferer?
	Wait, I'm so sorry.
	Could you repeat that question one more time?
	Are you saying if a woman is pregnant, is it a man?
	She's pregnant, but like the husband, like she's on the prepital room and she squeezes his hand really hard and he sees her in pain.
	I mean, it's kind of equal in terms of the suffering.
	If my husband never told me that he was the victim in that situation, but we would argue that the woman is the primary, I don't want to use the term victim, but she's the primary sufferer.
	Yeah.
	Would that be fair to say?
	Okay.
	And then like, of course, we could also make this argument when it came to like, let's say, a father, a father, boyfriend, brother, whatever it is.
	If a father's daughter, a boyfriend's girlfriend, a brother's sister, if she gets SA'd, that can be very difficult for the brother and the immediate family to deal with.
	But I don't think we would ever say, well, because they're like, they're very upset about what happened, I don't think we would ever say that the woman is not the primary victim in this case.
	Fair to say.
	Do you think, did that same logic apply that you have for the war that you would for a man watching him pregnant?
	I think this is very different because war has such a big impact on so many things versus this is an individual case-by-case basis.
	But like, well, no, we're just saying that it's, we just, I think what you're saying is the primary victim is overt in both situations.
	The man is primarily the victim in war, and the woman is primarily the sufferer in having a baby.
	So do you think that it's cut and dry like how it is?
	Could you say if this could be either way for the woman?
	And for the war, you said that the man is not necessarily primarily the victim in war, not necessarily.
	But do you think the woman is necessarily the primary sufferer in pregnancy?
	Yes.
	So why is the man not the primary victim in war?
	When he's dead, when she just had a baby, she can bounce back from that.
	I feel like for the baby, the pregnancy is very clear in terms of what the pain is and everything versus war impacts so many people on so many different levels.
	And for years, it will impact people.
	No, absolutely.
	But the main person that's victimized is no longer alive.
	So there's no coming back from that.
	You can heal from the pregnancy.
	You're not coming back from death.
	So I'm trying to say, how is it not the same thing?
	How is the man dying something that everyone deals with?
	But her having a child is just her.
	What if women had to be conscripted into the war?
	Would you say the same thing then?
	You said, what if?
	No, we're talking about what is, though.
	So, but you still can't give me hypotheticals here.
	No, that's not a hypothetical.
	Men don't hypothetically die.
	They do.
	They do.
	And women don't hypothetically have children.
	They do.
	So it's not a hypothetical at all.
	Wait, what if we change it like this?
	Some women do die in childbirth.
	If the woman dies in childbirth, is she the primary victim?
	Or is the grieving husband the primary victim, I guess?
	I think in this case, since she died, it's going to be both parties.
	No, no, no.
	Well, I'll grant to you.
	Yes, I agree.
	You know, honestly, death, yes, it's unfortunate, but it's the person that's left that really suffers.
	I think we have very tight.
	I agree with you.
	There's a ton of suffering.
	I'm sure some of us have lost a grandparent or this sounds really logical, but like, yes, like the person that dies, that's very unfortunate, but they're gone.
	It's the person that's left that's very like they have to go through this because they're still alive.
	So yes, I agree.
	If the woman dies in childbirth, then yes, I think both sides are victims.
	But there's the same with the war question.
	But who have war here primary?
	Because if you're alive, even though it's hard to live.
	I think they're both primary victims.
	How when you can't come back from death, you can always meet someone else.
	You can get counseling.
	Like you can create a community.
	You can have support from someone.
	Who's supporting a dead man?
	He's dead.
	Yeah, he's dead.
	So he's not there anymore.
	It's an unfortunate incident.
	So that makes him the primary victim because he's no coming back from what he went through.
	I guess we just have different opinions.
	I don't agree.
	I think both are, it's very unfortunate that whoever dies dies.
	So to be fair.
	But whoever's left also has to suffer with the repercussions.
	So they're both primary victims, especially if there's children involved.
	But there's a solution.
	There's potential for solution for the person that's alive.
	The person that's dead is dead.
	I feel like if you're at a funeral.
	I mean, it's the truth.
	If you're at a funeral and grieving someone, you wouldn't think that you're the victim.
	You would think that the person who died is the victim.
	What's your move?
	Honestly, you've been talking way too much tonight.
	Can you try to keep it down?
	No, just kidding.
	Thank you.
	That was actually pretty good.
	I guess, like, but we all have maybe experienced either a grandparent or even a parent who's passed away.
	And while these are like terrible things and we like we do experience suffering, we also like move on.
	We can heal.
	We can heal.
	Whereas there's a possibility of solution.
	There is no possibility if you did.
	You can't.
	Like he said, like Eric said, there's no resurrection.
	You can meet someone.
	You can meet people.
	It's possible.
	There's no possibility you did.
	By the way, guys, we are going to get into the TTS TTS Roast session of the stream.
	$20 TTS.
	They're going to be paused for just a brief moment.
	But $20 TTS, if you want to get one in.
	And then let me let this one come in here.
	Yo, tech, no, thank you.
	No trooper donated $100.
	Ladies, how can men stay relevant in modern relationships as trad roles shift?
	Give some examples, please.
	How can men stay relevant?
	You have something, Anissa?
	What you got?
	What you got?
	I don't even understand.
	Like, what do you mean, stay relevant?
	Scoot the mic that way a little bit.
	She doesn't even understand.
	What's the question?
	I think what you're trying to say is the fact that the roles have been reversed.
	What value does a man have traditionally in today's time when we're both exchanging roles when women make more?
	Where can a man find value if his value isn't in providing anymore?
	I think that's what he's trying to say.
	Oh, I think I kind of understand.
	So here's the explanation.
	He's asking, how can men stay relevant in modern relationships as trad rules shift?
	So historically, the way a man would make himself attractive to a woman would be have a job, be a provider.
	But now that that's no longer necessarily like because women are working, because they're making their own money, women aren't often like looking at a man's career necessarily as like the ultimate thing that's going to make him attractive.
	Whereas like back then, if a guy had a really good career, that would like give him way more points than it does today.
	And so basically, the way men used to make themselves attractive was like go out there, be ambitious.
	These can still be attractive nowadays, but like it was like hyper like number one priority.
	Is he a provider?
	Is he going to be able to take care of me?
	Now that women are making their own money, that's less of a means of a way that men can make themselves attractive to women.
	So now how can men like what's the shift towards?
	Is it emotional intelligence?
	Is it doing the chore?
	What is it?
	I feel like nowadays, I feel like nowadays it's like women are more attracted to like money.
	So I guess that still takes a part with what they do with their lives.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't know if that's true.
	I feel like we know from the previous panels as well that even like non-traditional women still find like traditional men attractive or like the provider aspect.
	So I don't think anything needs to shift.
	I think they want traditional incomes, but they don't want you to be traditional in no other sense.
	Like laying a law and saying, hey, we're not doing that.
	They're not with that tradition.
	They want them bills paid.
	That's about it.
	I don't want a traditional man.
	There's none in California.
	Unfortunately.
	They're only traditional in the sense that they want a man to fund their lifestyle.
	Basically.
	Is that basically it, I guess?
	Yeah, because that's how a lot of people are now.
	It's all about money and stuff like that.
	People are glad you kept it real, though.
	Yeah, because that's true.
	People are really money hunting.
	By the way, guys, the roasts are paused while we get through everything.
	I think you've evolved since the store started.
	I think you've evolved.
	No, I just spoke to Rachel.
	I mean, she said what we said.
	I mean, she ain't said that weird.
	Good points.
	It sounds better coming from her.
	Okay.
	Going on to the next thing.
	We're going to skip the gender pick up.
	We don't have time.
	Are women oppressed in the United States?
	You said yes.
	Michelle, you said half.
	No, you said no, actually.
	You said no on that.
	Carissa, you said no.
	Okay.
	Chloe, you said yes.
	And then you said no.
	Just so those of you who said yes, how are women oppressed?
	I'm actually going to change my response based off of our discussion here.
	Just because what we've used as a definition for oppression, I don't think applies to women, but it does still apply to many women across the world.
	Oh, okay.
	Sure.
	Because in America, I have to do what I want to do.
	Well, it's the same, like, you guys have changed my perspective a little, like when we talked about the racism, sexism.
	So, I guess, yes, but then there is also places where women still face oppression, like when in other countries.
	Well, I guess that, and then also, like, the pay gap.
	Okay.
	They had to have something.
	You can't have it all.
	You can't have it all, man.
	Oh, my God.
	You can't have it all, man.
	Just go to the last section.
	The gender pay gap.
	We won't hear.
	How about I'll give you one thing on the gender pay gap?
	Don't give me a hypothetical.
	No, it's not hypothetical, but how about this?
	And so I could say a lot of things about the gender pay gap.
	For example, differences.
	When they're talking about the gender pay gap, they're looking at all the work that women do and comparing it to all the men, all the work that men do.
	That's the uncontrolled gender pay gap.
	That's the 80 cents to the dollar that the men make.
	And they're not factoring in things like hours worked, seniority, educational achievement, willingness to relocate, types of job, negotiation, all these sorts of things.
	There's other factors that I'm not listing, but those are some, right?
	And so, but excluding all of those reasons for why this gender pay gap might exist, couldn't it be said that a lot of you here said that you want a man to pay for the first date?
	Couldn't this entirely be explained away by the social pressure that women put on men?
	It's entirely, it could entirely be explained away because there's not a symmetrical or corresponding pressure that men put on women to pay for dates or to be providers.
	Like no man, like I can't, no man can really get away in the dating marketplace saying, Yeah, you know, I would like a girl to pay for everything and to buy me gifts and I want to be a stay-at-home dad.
	No guy can really get away with that.
	Are there some women who are who would be okay, who are like hyper-successful, who I guess would be okay with the man staying home and taking care of the kids?
	I don't even know if like really successful women who have the means, who have the ability to be like, Yeah, you can stay at home.
	I got you.
	I'll hold it down.
	I don't even know if they would want to date that dude.
	I think hyper-successful women want to date hyper-successful men.
	I don't know if they'd be attracted to the guy who's like, Yeah, I just want to stay at home and take care of the kids and I'll do the dishes and da-da-da.
	I don't know if some women, maybe, but I don't even think really successful women who could afford to have the stay-at-home husband, the stay-at-home dad, I don't think even they want that.
	I think the word you chose was wrong.
	Hyper-successful women, no.
	But hyper-masculine women, yes.
	That would be a fair statement.
	But I think the gender pay gap could be explained not by anything like nefarious, not by some patriarchy, not by sexism, but by women's own social pressure that you guys individually apply to men as a group.
	Because if the standard is, well, hold on, I have to take, I have to pay for a girl.
	I got to pay for the date.
	That creates a pressure, a dating pressure, a mating pressure that doesn't exist on you, but exists on us.
	And I don't know about, like, do you think guys are pretty motivated by getting sex and getting a girlfriend?
	I think this is, I think both men and women are highly motivated when it comes to finding a partner and dating.
	Right.
	Fair to say?
	Yes.
	Perhaps it's the ultimate motivation in life.
	Find a partner, have kids, etc.
	I mean, it comes down to, I mean, it's like base level stuff.
	Survive, replicate.
	That's base level, like I forgot the exact term for it, but so should we blame women on the wage gap?
	You guys are just gonna sit there quietly and not say anything, Ellen?
	You guys want an energy drink or what's up?
	Just gonna let me bulldoze you guys and not even provide a rebuttal.
	Okay, pulling teeth in the middle.
	I'm just kidding.
	I don't want to get canceled.
	Look, in any case, you guys, by your own preferences of how you want to be treated in the dating marketplace, apply a pressure, a dating pressure on men.
	And I'm glad you think that way.
	And I can see your thought process for like correlation where because as a result of women wanting men to pay, you feel obligated to like make more money.
	We're more motivated.
	So that's why there's a wage gap.
	Is that what you're saying?
	Well, ignoring all the other reasons I listed, just really simplified.
	But could even that single, that single component of it, yeah, I think that could explain away the wage gap completely.
	I think it's opposite because there's already been a patriarchal like society in place for like hundreds of thousands of years.
	It's going to be real hard to overturn what's been in set in stone.
	What do you mean?
	I'm not going to compare it to systematic racism, but in terms of a system that's been in place for so long, we're not going to magically overturn it.
	So it's not like us saying, I want a guy to pay.
	That's not something new.
	If I said that 2050, no, if I said that 100 years ago, you'd be like, oh, what do you mean overturn?
	So you think that's a patriarchal thing?
	I don't think, sorry.
	Let me rephrase that.
	I don't mean overturn because I think that implies that a new system should be in place.
	Wait, but what?
	I mean, reworking.
	Wait, what?
	Reworking the system to make sure that it's not patriarchal.
	Hold on.
	What would need to be overturned about the individual dynamics when it comes to paying?
	You literally have all the power in your hand to overturn this on an individual level.
	You simply need to bust out at the end of the date your credit card and ask the waiter, I want to pay half.
	You have all the power to do this.
	Are you saying that the patriarchy is oppressing you and you can't tell the waiter?
	Like there's some patriarchal force in the ether that prevents you from telling the waiter.
	Like the waiter's going to smack you across the face and be like, shut up, woman.
	How fucking dare you ask for to pay equally?
	You think that's going to happen?
	Well, I wish that would happen.
	Or absolute rejection.
	Obviously, I'm joking.
	Smack you across the face.
	Obviously, I'm joking.
	But since I was growing, since I was like born and growing up, I've been taught like a man should pay for the date.
	And it wasn't until recently that I'm like, I'm making more money.
	I'm obviously treating my friends, guy friends, and girlfriends to a meal.
	And this leads back into my beliefs on dating, where it shows a man's efforts in terms of asking and planning and sponsoring the date.
	Versus if I ask and plan, I will be paying for the date.
	Can I ask all this?
	So is it more about a man paying for a date or facilitating one?
	Because what if the date doesn't require him to spend money?
	Like it might be just a free little festival or something like that.
	It's just a matter of him just making the effort for y'all to do something, not necessarily something expensive.
	Wouldn't this be like, so the expectation that men pay for dates, wouldn't this be like a sexist and gendered expectation on men?
	I mean, I said it's possible to use sexist too much.
	But what I'm saying is, like, the expectation that men pay for first states, this isn't evidence of women's oppression.
	This would be evidence of men's oppression.
	Oh, I just have always been taking men.
	100 years ago, who was taking care of who?
	Okay, 100 years ago, women, well, 110 years ago, women couldn't vote.
	Does that mean that that was the right way for society to be?
	No, but who was taking care of who?
	Men were taking care of women.
	And so if that's ingrained in society and your grandchildren, your grandpa teaches, the grandchildren, the grandchildren still have that idea in it.
	So my mom taught me, again, growing up, a man, sorry.
	A man should pay for the day.
	And so in my head, that's in the back of my head.
	But a system that's been in place for a while.
	But how about the system then?
	But why have we foregone?
	Well, okay, you as the woman, your duty, I'm not, this isn't my position, but like you're saying, 100 years ago, like, why did we then get rid of all the expectations on women?
	Okay, your duty, huh?
	Did we, though?
	No, not all expectations, but like, for example, we could just say that there was an expectation that women would not go out and go to college.
	They would stay home and they would have children.
	There's no real expectation there.
	Why don't we invite Andrew's wife back to add it on this conversation, too?
	Okay, we're talking about like traditional values, right?
	So traditionally, the man is expected to pay.
	That's how we were raised.
	I could ask the same question then.
	Don't you think it's sexist to women that men with high body count care so much about a woman's body count?
	That's the same exact thing because traditionally women are expected to have a lower body count.
	So I can easily say, I can easily say, hey, you're being sexist because you have a body count of 100 million and you're getting mad at a woman for having 20.
	That's sexist.
	This is the difference, though.
	It's a lot of differences.
	But for one, we didn't fight for you to have a high body count.
	Y'all fought to work.
	So us questioning, not you per se, but us questioning women who's saying, okay, you fought to work and you fought to earn money just like we have.
	So why don't you pay for certain things?
	Because your body of your body politic gender fought for that.
	We never fought for women to be having a lot of bodies.
	So us asking questions about that is within our rights because we never asked you to deviate from that.
	Women have fought to deviate from being traditional women.
	They want to work.
	So if you want to work, then why can't you pay for this and pay for that?
	But as far as the body count thing, which I don't care about, but I don't think it's the same as a man having multiple bodies.
	It's the same as a woman having multiple bodies because I just don't.
	I'm just talking about values.
	I just think it's a double standard.
	Well, I mean, life is full of double standards.
	Here, we'll move it on off of the gender pay gap, but we can get into that briefly.
	I do need to let some chats go through because they're about to fall off.
	Victor donated $20.
	This strange animated clump of cells in chair one doesn't want to be a birthing machine, which is hilarious.
	It wants to do whatever it wants, even if in the most likely scenario, it harms others.
	I think I announced this after she left, though.
	So, guys, Anai's obviously not here, but some of these, this is not at Anisa.
	Victor donated $20.
	Chair One, your eggs are crying in desperation.
	Yeah, Nisa.
	Why do you hate your as of yet non-existent children?
	Did your mom hate you?
	What?
	Oh, gosh.
	No.
	No, this isn't right.
	I'm sorry.
	Daniel, Daniel Nissa.
	Daniel Nasuri, I cannot trigger this, but you said chair one was totally.
	I have to change it, man, because it's just, it's too much.
	Chair one was totally unbearable.
	She is in her 20s.
	It shows how delusional she is to think she wants to be a feminist high horse at 30 years old.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Vector donated $20.
	Chair 1 should disagree more.
	I find her nervous laughter whenever she comes to a disagreement very cute.
	Brian could always make a clip of her nervous laughter and use it whenever girls disagree.
	Jack underscore M donated $20.
	Brian, that random cheeks picture mentioned early in the show was actually a digital seasons greeting from Neverland Ranch.
	Thank you.
	We could see you eating that burrito in the reflection earlier too.
	I was not either libertariated donated $20.
	All I learned tonight was that men are the primary victims of women dying in childbirth.
	That is true.
	That is actually true.
	If I ever have a wife and she dies giving birth to a child, I am the victim.
	And I suffer way more.
	Hold on.
	This is good.
	Big sass energy donated $20.
	To be alive is to be accepting of suffering.
	So would you rather be alive or be dead?
	Is the dead soldier the primary victim for no longer being alive or no longer suffering?
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	My mate recently passed away.
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	My mate Robbie is the primary victim.
	His life taken away too soon.
	Sorry to hear that man.
	Rest in peace, Robbie.
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	If a woman is pregnant but passes from childbirth, and the father survives and raises the child to adulthood, who suffered more.
	The wife is gone, but the family must live on with the painful memory.
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	Hey, dominant girl in the middle.
	Let me educate you.
	Male is the dominant sex, which is where the term dominant is from.
	Which makes you, as a woman, submissive by nature.
	It's biological.
	Your response?
	But I'm not, so fuck off.
	Oh, oh, okay, there's that feminine energy again.
	Let's see.
	Techno Trooper donated $20.
	Ladies, Christmas is coming up.
	Have you bought your partners a gift yet?
	Is it expensive?
	Anissa, did you buy your boyfriend a.
	I have not bought any gifts yet.
	Who else?
	Anybody else?
	No, everybody here, single.
	I bought one.
	Forever alone.
	This is the most forever alone panel.
	Although she might.
	I bought one.
	I bought one.
	Who knows?
	By Christmas time.
	It could be.
	Yeah, because you bought me one, so I was like, might as well.
	I just got him a rug.
	That's cute.
	Oh, OJ Simpson donated $20.69.
	Chair 7.
	I haven't heard anything you've said, but I'd like to extend to you an invitation to a party in my pants.
	Are you in or are you out?
	Too late, you're already in.
	No, thank you.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	A well-known side effect of STD virus leads to mental problems.
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	Joe Murphy donated $100.
	Just to clarify, surviving in the forest is based on who can contribute more between genders and animals.
	It has nothing to do with nonsense feminist ideologies.
	Hopefully that clarifies the equality.
	Yo, Joe Murphy, I do appreciate that.
	Surviving the Force is based on who can contribute.
	Has nothing to do with.
	That's fair.
	He has another one coming in here.
	Joe Murphy, I mean, W's in the chat for Joe Murphy, guys.
	Joe Murphy donated $100.
	Hypothetically speaking, we can have an entire generation of Americans who believe that racism started in America.
	As if Western society didn't contribute to ending the slave trade.
	Mol, thumbs up.
	Alright, that is a good point.
	Also, I mean, there's the Barbary slave trade, which was like.
	What do you know about the Barbie Wars?
	What do I know about them?
	What do you know about that, man?
	We found out.
	Yeah, I mean, a lot of white people being enslaved for a long time.
	And we have a couple more.
	I'll just let through now.
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	Why have bangs on except for comedic value?
	Watching her try to answer is like being forced to watch the movie Idiocracy 10 times in a row.
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	Chair number six and number seven, you are both beautiful women.
	Number seven, tough love here, but pull your head out of the sand.
	Don't hold the candle.
	Wish I could ask Bangs if she was mad squirrel about this cat call.
	Mad Squirrel about this cat.
	Oh, oh, he did a I see.
	Yeah, oh, we should have had her.
	We should have done a midway roast session.
	It is what it is.
	We didn't get to it in time, but we have a couple more things to get through.
	Then we're going to try to wrap this up hopefully as soon as possible.
	So, oh, hold on, I'll let these come in.
	Why not?
	Roth donated $20.
	Anissa's eyebrows 10 tenths.
	Dark Avia looked good in the helmets.
	That's hard to do.
	Bangs left, so we can't have roast turkey for Christmas.
	07 Brian, you going daggers or swords?
	Daggers.
	I always play daggers, World of Warcraft, Rogue.
	Daggers, 100% daggers.
	It's just, I think it's more fun.
	It's more fun.
	You know, backstab.
	It's, yeah, whatever.
	Let's just say.
	The sector me advovate donated $20.
	When these guys get owned on body count, they just say, well, life's like that.
	It's 2024.
	Why talk about backward stagnant relationship dynamics when literally no one thinks slash acts like this troll podcast?
	I mean, there's plenty of like really, really strong arguments when it comes to the body count discussion and why it matters.
	In fact, it's something that's been studied.
	In fact, why don't we just pull it up really quick?
	Damien, can you pull up the Discord?
	It's in the like, I forget the exact tab.
	It's like research body count, I think.
	It's like down low.
	It's, I think, research body count.
	There's a body count channel.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, pull that up.
	Huh?
	Sir, yeah.
	Yeah, scroll up all the way to the top.
	I won't read every single one, but there's like they've studied this.
	Okay, wait, hold on.
	We're gonna.
	Is it control?
	Can you do control plus sign?
	No, it's the uh, it's the plus above the number or next to the number, control plus that yeah again again, at the very top, you see those two very top, very top.
	Yep to the the.
	The two hide, nope.
	Three over, nope in the middle no, next to the search, the two people, the two people hide that.
	Okay, uh, so these are a bunch of studies you get.
	If you guys want, it's on our discord.
	Uh, so these are studies that are all done.
	Promisecuity and infidelity just scroll down.
	We don't have time to read all of it, but like, these are all studies that pertain to like why body count matters, why promisecuity is an issue, how all the negative impacts it has on relationships, keep scrolling.
	There's infidelity concerns, there's pair bonding concerns, there's the greater likelihood of divorce, greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction.
	This is it's not just like, it's not just like a bunch of bros making this shit up.
	It's literally been studied by uh, academics.
	So yeah, but that's only that.
	Oh those, those could go for like, if you're like looking into an, into a partner, but if you're just fucking around, then why does any of that matter?
	Well, what do you mean?
	Why yeah like, if it's like infidelity and like oh, issues that you have with your past, like you know what I mean.
	Like like what, like it just affects you from bonding with people period, whether you want to be in a heavy relationship or not, even if you want to be in a situation like strap.
	We ain't even talking about that part, we're just talking about the mental effects of it because like, once a woman has two to ten partners, that decreases her parabondability by 40.
	No, it doesn't.
	I know that.
	Okay okay you, single right.
	Yeah, she's chose.
	She's currently hooking up with a man who cheated.
	Why did you?
	Why, why?
	you think how old are you i'm 23.
	So you think if you, at this rate, by the time you get to 35, by the time you get to 35 36, it'll be easier for you to bear with um, bond with somebody, or harder.
	I think easier.
	Okay well, I think it's about to.
	I don't really think it's going to be easier or harder.
	I just think that because the technology, because the type of person that I am like, I like i'm a lover girl.
	Honestly, I fall hard when I fall.
	So it could be anyone so.
	But that's even more reason why that's gonna be an issue.
	Because if you fall hard and you're not but but you're actually like, I like when I have people i've slept with, that I fall for them.
	No it's, i'm very picky on who like who it is, but no, I get what you're saying, but i'm saying if you fall hard and you're not staying with them, that's going to desensitize you.
	I'm not the problem.
	Let me just say that i'm not the problem if never's, never y'all.
	But what i'm saying is you fall in love with two relationships, only two.
	I mean that's cool, and those relationships lasted very long.
	I haven't, I haven't been single in the last seven years because I went from one relationship and then got into another one.
	I have only been relation single in the last seven years.
	This year like, so that but, and that's but, i'm saying that, but I chose to be single.
	That's cool.
	But you 23 with that yes, exactly like, live your life, finish we are.
	You 23 with that um, tedious relationship you've been through that has.
	If you keep doing that over and over and over, that's not going to make you better at it, because to give so much to somebody and it doesn't and it ends without y'all being together.
	To me, what did you?
	Yeah no, I know I get what.
	I get what you mean by like saving your like, saving your like and getting to know someone and like not just giving it up.
	You know what I mean.
	Like I totally, I totally get that.
	I ain't even just talking about sex.
	But it's your time, your energy, it's like you keep doing that and you're intimate and it's not getting to a place where y'all together.
	That's not going to make it easier in the future is what i'm saying.
	Well, we'll come back to the body campaign.
	Just want to let a couple chats go through.
	Honestly, yeah, no.
	OJ Simpson $20.
	Chair 7.
	I do not like the way you rescue me.
	Your invitation has been rescinded and is now being offered to chair 2.
	My second choice.
	Love the pod, Brixon.
	Is this for a date?
	He's asking you on a date, I guess.
	I don't want to be no second choice.
	Oh, shit.
	You should have shot your shot first at chair two.
	At a lace.
	No.
	Bro, I can't read cursive, bro.
	Look at your penmanship is terrible.
	It's Elsie.
	Elsie.
	Wait, but that.
	What's your actual name?
	Elsie.
	That's your government name?
	Good.
	E. L. C.
	Oh.
	You didn't want my autograph?
	That's cool.
	Okay.
	We have more coming through.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	For you, Eric.
	Chair 8.
	No roast.
	You are hella based.
	Thanks for holding it down and making sure that people don't get out of line.
	Yo, W's in the chat for Eric.
	Were we in the chat?
	Eric, not Chair.
	I am going to take a guess here.
	You all own or will own cats.
	Who owns a cat?
	I own two.
	I have three, actually.
	I own a dog.
	Who thinks they will own a cat?
	I'm allergic.
	Huh?
	I'm allergic to cats.
	But I have a dog.
	I have a dog dog.
	Anisa's going to be a cat lady.
	There you go.
	All right.
	I have a count of too much money.
	Rachel definitely got the MVP today.
	What does that mean?
	Oh, we already lost her.
	Snapmore donated $19.99.
	They want men to be vulnerable.
	In the same convo.
	Who hurt you?
	Who hurt you?
	Feminist indoctrination.
	Broken women who are going to hit the wall.
	How can you look better when you're older?
	Ha ha ha ha.
	All right, we have this guy again.
	The sector me advovate donated $20.
	Brian obviously created this website.
	Garbage.
	I bet every girl here has never been asked her body count.
	Well, so there's a couple things there.
	One, yes, I did create the Discord, but all those studies that are.
	You can look them up.
	They're not fake studies.
	You can look up the studies.
	If you need to go back, we scrolled down through all of them.
	So, yeah, it's my Discord.
	I posted all the studies there.
	I agree.
	And as far as every girl here has never been harassed her body count, even if that was the case, that the girls here have never been asked their body count, that still wouldn't preclude men from caring about their body count, whether they asked or not.
	So, yeah, true.
	I would just prefer not to be asked, like, personally.
	God bless you, Brixen.
	I pray that your journey towards Christ continues 2025.
	May you have a blessed year to come.
	Jesus Christ is gone.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, bro.
	Techno Trooper donated $20.
	Thank you, Techno.
	Chair five small boobies still cool.
	Just make up for it in bed.
	Yikes.
	Yikes.
	No. It's okay.
	Thank you, man.
	I do like them wild and bratty.
	More fun when they kneel.
	Huh.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Let's see here.
	We got this one.
	Clap Trap 69 donated $20.
	You guys are a bunch of scallywag adagers.
	Daggers.
	It's pretty simple.
	Male and female.
	Also, most debates are generalized.
	Majority over minority.
	Women of the panel.
	Define a woman, please.
	Okay, going around the table.
	Define what is a woman.
	I guess we kind of skip Anissa, right?
	Because she's just like, she's just filling in for.
	I guess a woman is someone who has that type of genitalia and the chromosomes for it.
	Okay.
	What is a woman?
	Are we?
	sorry like my brain is a little fried um so could we come I don't know, like, what?
	We can come back.
	What is a woman?
	The opposite of a male.
	Wait, a woman is the opposite of a male.
	So a female.
	Yeah.
	A woman is a female.
	Sure about that one.
	Yes.
	No, I agree with you.
	I agree with you, but.
	Oh my gosh.
	No, I don't want to be canceled.
	Oh, my gosh.
	You're not.
	No, I'm not.
	Are you asking objectively or like characteristics?
	That's why I was frying.
	Like, how do you feel?
	You guys aren't.
	No one's going to cancel.
	Nobody's going to cancel you.
	Darkavia, DJ.
	I would just say, yeah, that's based on what you're born with.
	Genitalia and chromosomes.
	Okay.
	From what I've learned today, a woman is a singular version of women.
	That's a good answer.
	All right.
	Going back to you, anything?
	It's one gender out of the two.
	If we're being objective, like I said, what is a woman?
	A sex.
	Like male and female.
	That's what I'm fried.
	It's like, are you asking like characteristics or like no, just what the definition of a woman is?
	I don't know why you're shaking your head.
	Could you give us a definition, please?
	The fact that we got to ask this question, and y'all are supposed to be college-educated is crazy as hell to me.
	Like a woman has breasts, she can produce milk, she can have a baby come out of her body point blank, period.
	The fact that this gotta be like, the fact that answering what a woman and male is without the fear of being canceled shows you how far the society is from.
	I'm not talking about you.
	I'm just saying, like, it just seemed like it took a lot to say what a woman is.
	And you ain't the first, you ain't gonna be the last.
	It's just funny to me when I see women like have trouble with that question.
	It's like, yo, where the hell are we?
	This is Twilight Zone.
	Okay.
	Techno Trooper donated $20.
	Care two is that lip gloss you keep putting on.
	Who's it for?
	It's for no one.
	I just don't want my lips to be dry.
	What are the things on the teeth?
	Is that the same thing?
	Oh, they're the gems.
	Is it called Bejewel?
	What is it?
	No, they're tooth gems.
	So over here is a butterfly.
	And then over here, it's a heart.
	You should get a grill.
	I thought about that, actually.
	I think I was saying.
	What, you want to give her your grill?
	Can grill.
	No, they have to be like, yeah, yeah.
	You can't just.
	I mean, you can't buy a grill on Amazon.
	I mean, you can, but it's not going to be as authentic or as good as a natural grill.
	Fits most.
	Yeah, get a grill.
	Get a grill, man.
	We want to see what that.
	We got sorry for putting the plus one though.
	Leroy Jenkins donated $20.
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	Leroy!
	Oh, wait, that's not fair.
	I think it's like this.
	All right, that was great.
	Thank you, guys.
	All right, a few more things on the questionnaire, then we're going to wrap.
	If there's any more roasts that want to come in, guys, $20 TTS if you want to get.
	By the way, $500, 50% off on the champagne pops.
	If anybody wants to pop.
	Actually, I don't know.
	Half of y'all can't even.
	Wait.
	No, only two of you can't have champagne, so whatever.
	All right.
	To wrap up on the whole, like, are women oppressed in the USA?
	Like, can anybody, anybody, how are women oppressed?
	Give me one example in the USA?
	Didn't we already say that?
	Oh, did we?
	All right.
	See you.
	So, okay, do women have equal rights to men in the USA, to which you said no, which was regarding the pay gap.
	Michelle, you said no.
	Carissa, you left that blank.
	So I'm just sure why it's no.
	chloe that's a no uh so you guys think there's not equal rights in the usa well Well, what I was answering, or like pertaining to, yeah, was the pay gap.
	Just that, though.
	Anything else?
	Nothing else?
	I mean, that was like the basis of it.
	Michelle?
	I think it might be a little bit of a power dynamic, but honestly, I'm a recruiter and like pay gap.
	It's getting a lot better because I know comp ranges and stuff.
	I've never had an instance where the hiring managers were like, oh, pay this person less.
	It's more so a matter of experience.
	It's getting better, but I still do think more work could be done.
	But I think we're very lucky to live in the States compared to other countries.
	You're talking about the pay gap.
	Okay.
	Is there anything besides the pay gap?
	I mean, you said, Chloe.
	Carissa, did I get your name right?
	Right.
	Heaven forbid.
	These girls go out to bars and clubs and stay out till 3 a.m., but it's 12.30.
	Okay, my for sure.
	Anything, Chloe, on the mine is primarily with the pay gap.
	Just the pay gap.
	Did you get the private chat?
	Pull that up really quick here while he's doing that.
	I'm going to let this one come through.
	Get that pulled up for me.
	OJ Simpson donated $20.
	All of you 304s are uninvited to my pants party.
	You've treated me disrespectfully and embarrassed me in front of my peers.
	You can't comprehend what you just missed out on.
	Shame.
	You guys are missing out big time on that.
	Mad Arista naked.
	He's a 20.
	He's a Giga Chad.
	From earlier, nobody likes you when you're 23.
	And are still more amused by prank phone calls.
	What the hell is call ID?
	My friends say I should act my age.
	What's my age?
	What is my age again?
	Blank on age 2.
	W. Thank you, man.
	Speaking of the wage gap, I want your guys' thoughts on this.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	Median weekly earnings of full-time workers, white men versus Asian women.
	Dang, so yeah, W's for Asian women outperforming.
	White men.
	You know what?
	I feel like it's, as a white man, I feel oppressed by Asian women.
	Why so?
	The wage gap.
	What about other races?
	Other races?
	What about Latino women?
	What about black women?
	If they're earning more than me, I feel oppressed.
	I think even white women might be out earning.
	Oh, this guy.
	Okay, hold on.
	But it is interesting.
	Asian women, y'all killing it.
	Thank you.
	I don't know about Waysian women, though.
	I don't know what.
	It's like you're part white, but part Asian.
	I think Waysian women are also probably killing it.
	Okay.
	All right, we've got a pop of champagne.
	Libertariat donated $500.
	Just that champagne.
	Can you grab me a champagne bottle?
	Probably won't partake because the prophet, peace be upon him, doesn't approve, but he needs it to deal with college-educated Muharras that can't define a woman.
	Yo, libertariat, guys, W's.
	Well, because you're Muslim, right?
	And Muslims can't drink.
	Oh, wait, can you get me one of the German ones, the Schlossen?
	Anybody who here wants some champagne?
	I don't drink.
	No.
	Darkavia?
	I'm going to sit when I took my daddy.
	I'm tempted, but I only drink if there's.
	I already got a DY.
	I can't get another one.
	I'm okay.
	Really?
	You'll have some?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Two cups.
	One podcast.
	Sweet.
	Thank you, Damien.
	We got two cups here.
	We're all good on the cups.
	Can you get me a paper towel?
	All right.
	It's just you and me, Eric.
	Illa.
	Illosophical.
	Say that.
	Getting wasted with.
	Not about to get wasted off no champagne, bro.
	I'm a lightweight, so I don't drink.
	So, I mean, I'll have three sips and I'm.
	You don't do the brood.
	I'm fucked.
	I don't drink.
	The only time I drink is if somebody does a champagne pop.
	While I'm opening this up, wait, hold on.
	Let me pull this.
	Don't the bitch body count now donated $20.
	So if Brian is not a Christian, then be on good faith and reveal your body count.
	You've had literally hundreds of women being honest.
	Dot is at zero.
	Men can lack taste.
	How did you know men have breakfast?
	I'm a virgin.
	I'm a virgin.
	Technotrooper donated $20.
	I don't really.
	Raise your hand if you are okay being a sugar mama.
	Is he looking at him?
	Raise your hand?
	Anybody want to be a sugar mama?
	Anybody?
	Yo, guys, W's in the chat for Libertariat.
	This guy, big champagne pop at the end of the day.
	Hey, middle chair.
	It's okay to have small boobs.
	It's the shape that matters.
	Octor DeVita.
	Octor.
	I'll pour.
	There we go.
	I guess it's not the shape of the boobs.
	It's the.
	I'm going to give you as much as I can, man.
	It's just you and me.
	The shape of the boobs is the word.
	That's what the chat says.
	It's the shape that matters.
	It's okay to have small boobs.
	Just got to be proportionate to the body.
	It's got to be proportionate.
	All right, let's do cheers to Libertariat.
	Libertariat.
	Cheers to you, sir.
	Cheers to you, Salu.
	Salud.
	Ah, fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't drink.
	Okay.
	Already drunk.
	All right.
	Let's get through this as quick as we can, man.
	All right.
	Oh, we pulled that up.
	Okay, whatever.
	I guess they believe that there's equal rights then.
	Is it wrong for age gap?
	I don't know if that's very interesting.
	We're going to skip the age gap one.
	Is it wrong?
	This one came up before Michelle, you kind of touched on this.
	Is it wrong for a high body count man to prefer to date low body count woman?
	I think you sounded like you were kind of objecting to that.
	No, I don't think it's wrong, but like I just think if you're going to care so much about a woman's body count, you should also have a low body count.
	Okay.
	I mean, I guess my quick response to that would be there are plenty of things that women desire in men that they don't possess themselves.
	So like I don't think, I don't think it's hypocritical, but just to be clear, I'm not in favor of male promiscuity, but I don't think it's actually wrong if a guy has a high body count to prefer to date a woman with a low body count because there's all kinds of asymmetries when it comes to what men want and what women want.
	There are certain things that men want in a partner that they don't possess.
	There's certain things women want in a partner traits, whatever it may be, that they themselves don't possess.
	For example, I don't think it would be hypocritical or I would fault a woman who was broke if she was attracted to and wanted to date a billionaire.
	Whether she can get a billionaire or not is another question, but I don't think it would be hypocritical or, for example, a woman who's like she can't even run like a mile, but she wants to date a professional athlete.
	That's true.
	Or a woman who's not a professional athlete who would date a professional athlete.
	A woman who didn't even play junior varsity in high school in any sport, no problem if she wants to date a professional athlete.
	A woman who's not funny.
	If she wanted, a lot of women want to date men who are funny.
	Don't think as a woman, if you're not funny, there's nothing wrong with you wanting to date a man who's funny.
	That's fair.
	And this is very commonly stated preference in women.
	They want a guy who's funny.
	Whether they're funny or not is up for the woman in specific is up for debate.
	I think we both got to deal with double standards at certain points.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It just comes with the shit.
	So if you're a guy and you have a history, look, I'm not, again, non-favor of male promiscuity.
	Yeah, you know what?
	If it's better for men to date low body count women, if they have more satisfying relationships, because the woman has a low body count, this woman is more loyal, or it's just whatever.
	He has no reason for it at all.
	He just wants it.
	No problem whatsoever, in my view.
	And I also think that it takes effort for a man to get body counts.
	Yeah, it's hard.
	Y'all don't have to do nothing.
	It's easy for y'all.
	So we have to ask you half of it.
	It's easy, but having doesn't based on her body count if she's going to be loyal or not.
	No, but we never said that.
	What we said.
	He just said that.
	He literally just came out of his mouth.
	Oh, yeah.
	Dude, I have never cheated.
	Never.
	On my life, I've never cheated.
	I've always been cheated on.
	There's something wrong.
	Well, maybe you should see a doctor about that.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you diagnosing everyone today?
	I am.
	So you have a high body count?
	My body count's 12.
	Going around the table, what's everybody's body count?
	Two.
	If it's less than a hand.
	That's not.
	Four and a half.
	What do you mean, half?
	Just a tip.
	Just a tip.
	Just for a second.
	Just to see how it feels.
	That's my movie.
	Wedding Crashers?
	Love that movie.
	Body count?
	Oh, zero.
	I'm a coxman.
	Yeah.
	Zero.
	You know what?
	I got a couple for you.
	Hold on.
	How about this?
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Wait, hold on.
	I have... Herodias.
	I don't know.
	I...
	I do have erroneous.
	You heard that one.
	What about this one?
	Get crap cakes in football!
	That's what Marilyn does!
	What's that from old school?
	No, that's from what?
	During the rugby scene.
	The football scene.
	The football scene.
	Body count?
	Two.
	Two?
	Okay.
	Twelve.
	Twelve.
	Just say zero.
	No, just say zero, though.
	Zero.
	Into the mic if you can.
	Zero.
	I prefer not to answer this question.
	Range?
	You want to do range?
	No.
	Not because I don't want to save it.
	No, I'm okay.
	I'll give you a $2 billion.
	That's information that the person I'm with thinks.
	No, nobody else here.
	All right, that's cool.
	Is it more than 10 or less than 10?
	I'm not answering that.
	Okay, totally.
	Okay, but is my body count high?
	But when I like I lost my country.
	Yeah, but I lost my virginity to the boyfriend I was with for five years.
	How old were you?
	I was 16.
	So is it 12 different guys or 12 times?
	12 different guys.
	No, 12 different guys.
	But it's also, I count women too.
	Oh.
	Yes.
	Oh, so you got to fit in.
	Like it's 12 in total.
	And men and women.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's not the worst.
	I don't think it's honestly for like California.
	B minus.
	But like, I've only been, I've only been with like two people here since I moved to California.
	But like some girls put up 12, they're like freshman, first freshman semester, first freshman quarter of college.
	So like it's not a low body count, but it's not like at 23, it's not like the worst, you know?
	Yeah, I don't have it planned.
	I don't have it.
	It ain't the worst.
	I don't plan it going up.
	I just sleep with the same people.
	Phoe shoot.
	Because of that reason.
	So you just stay with the exes.
	You just put them in a block until you're in the middle of the day.
	Or just like the people I just slept with.
	And they just keep them on my little rasta.
	But what about what they're doing?
	Yeah, but I use protection.
	It sounds like a raw dog that shit.
	No, I use protection.
	There you go.
	She uses protection.
	You know, that got some birth control coming out for men.
	Oh my God, that would be shoulder gel.
	Yo, I haven't heard about that.
	They said it's some little gel they making that rub on your shoulders, which I'm scared to take because if I'm rubbing on my shoulder and it's traveling all the way down here, that's a lot of traveling to get down there.
	Like, they ain't got no knee grease or some shit.
	I interviewed the guy who's developing, it's called, well, they've changed the name, but it's called Vasal Gel.
	So, and this has been in development for over a decade.
	Basically, it's an injection into the vas deferens.
	So the vas deferens is the tube that carries the sperm from the testicles out to the.
	And they inject a blocking thing that physically blocks the sperm from going through the tubes.
	So you don't ejaculate?
	No, you still ejaculate.
	It's just blocking sperm.
	But the other stuff can still because there's the most, like the majority of the splooge is not sperm.
	It's like, I think it, I could be wrong, but I think it comes from another.
	Wait.
	Yeah, no, this, it comes from a different.
	That stuff is like what keeps the eggs alive, the little sperm thingies.
	That's what keeps them alive.
	So they can like stay warm and stuff and make it home.
	Right now.
	That sounds scary.
	I'd rather just get a vasectomy and say, fuck it.
	Vasectomies are probably.
	Well, anyways.
	But big W's to Libertaria for the big champagne pop here at the end of show.
	I'll try to get a few more sips in before we wrap up.
	I do appreciate your very bro.
	I'm going to be drunk off this.
	You're going to be drunk over there.
	You finish it here.
	Pound the.
	When you pound the champagne bottle.
	I got to drive, man.
	This is light, though.
	None of y'all drink.
	Maybe if it was earlier in the.
	This is light.
	It's like soda.
	Yeah, it's 11% alcohol.
	Maybe I'm just 11%.
	I'm being very vulnerable in front of the women now because I'm reacting to the like 7%.
	What is the 11% alcohol content?
	And I'm like, these girls are probably like, she's looking at me.
	She drank, right?
	She's like, man, this guy's a fucking bitch.
	He's all 11%.
	Shit.
	You's a bitch, Brian.
	I think it's like a...
	I was doing shots of Everclear.
	Son.
	I also find it attractive when people can't hold their own.
	Okay, good talk.
	Good talk.
	You're attracted to like dudes that says soft or something.
	I think you like when guys show a little bit.
	When I was making those faces, like for that one.
	You from the shop?
	She wants to go side.
	She's kind of getting excited.
	I don't think that's a good thing.
	No, East Side.
	Eastside.
	Eastside.
	Let's see.
	We're going to skip over a bunch of these.
	Maybe one more I'll do.
	Wait, I haven't even thought of it.
	Is getting laid easier for men?
	Carissa, you're the only one.
	Were like, maybe you didn't respond to the getting laid thing.
	Oh, I didn't no, do you, is it?
	What was the question is, it is getting laid easier for women.
	And you said uh, you didn't answer, I don't really know anything, you don't, you don't know about that.
	You think it's easy for women to get sex, or men?
	I don't know, you don't know.
	Okay, it's okay, she doesn't know, she doesn't know.
	It's women, but and all, it is women, it is women.
	You know, don't think about that at all ever.
	So watch here, i'll test this super easy.
	All of you are single besides uh well, you're all single.
	Uh, what?
	Uh, so check this out.
	Uh Elsi, is it?
	Is it, Elsie?
	This you definitely can't up the name before you're about to do.
	Um, after the show, would you like to have sex?
	No, after the show.
	Would you like to have sex after the show?
	Would you like to have sex after the show?
	Would you like to have with with me?
	No, no.
	After the show Chloe, would you like to have sexual intercourse?
	No but, thank you, you're welcome.
	Uh, would you like to have sexual intercourse after the show?
	Carnal knowledge, i'm okay she's, she passes.
	That was hey, that was.
	I did not get laid?
	Would you huh, have want to have sex after the show?
	No, i'm just asking.
	Because you asked Ellis, I obviously am asking i'm waiting for somebody special.
	Oh, so sweet.
	You guys think you have a shot with me?
	Just kidding, i'm kidding.
	I put like this, y'all go home, ask your, y'all got.
	Y'all all got male friends or male buddies.
	No, I don't, you got a male friend.
	If you told him you wanted to give him some, he'll say yes, just like that.
	But I agree.
	If you said hey, I like yo buddy, like I don't mean to come at you crazy but um, I just really been craving something real, like lately, could you think you'd come and bless me?
	He'll say yes, with the quick, which means basically you think that man, listen hollow, you're single, single male friends.
	Yeah, you great baby, he's still a hit, trust me, single.
	If you ask your single male friends, most of them gonna, yeah, switch up.
	All my guy friends are married.
	So well, your single male friends, your single male friends.
	It's not fair to say oh, your male friends, who's in your coworker?
	Anybody anybody, any son?
	All right, we have a couple chats coming in.
	Monster Malzonian Donated 20.
	Anissa, give me a smile.
	I know you want to this camera right here.
	Smile, there we go.
	Good job, how about a wink?
	How about you know what if you, if you don't do a wink, you need to read um, five pages of the cat in the hat.
	Go ahead, read it, Anissa, go ahead, you gotta read five pages.
	the sun did not shine it was too wet to play so we sat in the house all that cold cold wet day I sat there with Sally.
	We sat there, we too.
	And I said, how I wish we had something to do.
	Too wet to go out and too cold to play ball.
	So we sat in the house.
	We did nothing at all.
	So all we could do was to sit, sit, sit, sit.
	And we did not like it.
	Not one little bit.
	Okay.
	Keep it on.
	That's five page.
	Oh, that's five page.
	Yeah.
	Shit.
	All right.
	We have a few more chats coming through.
	I'll take it off.
	We are going to do the makeup removal segment.
	Wait, what?
	Those things work really good.
	I need to break out.
	Boom.
	That's it.
	You're going out tonight?
	No, we're going to have to hungry food.
	You need makeup for that.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to take cute pics too.
	Yeah, we were going to take it.
	So you won't do it?
	Yeah, we were going to take pictures here after.
	Can you throw it to me?
	I won't take my makeup off.
	Yeah, me too, Loki.
	Boom.
	Anissa, you want the makeup?
	Oh, Anissa's going to do it.
	Boom.
	I will give you here.
	How about take Chloe?
	Give Chloe one, please.
	All right, boys, makeup coming off.
	There's two.
	Sorry.
	I look like that.
	Oh, you're not going to talk to your kid.
	I don't know.
	So you don't want to.
	You don't want to do the makeup?
	All right, they got a microphone.
	All right.
	All right, I'm going to let these chats come through while they're doing that.
	Keep an eye on the makeup, though.
	Guess underscore who donated $19.99.
	Seeing Chair 5's progress tonight made the loss of sleep worth it.
	Thank you, Chair 5.
	I wish you the best.
	We can fix her, boys.
	We got this.
	Techno Trooper donated $20.
	Ladies, would you make your man sign a prenuptial agreement if you made more?
	Hashtag oppression.
	No, that means you're literally agreeing that you guys are eventually going to get divorced.
	So I wouldn't.
	Or you could just donated $20.
	If a guy wants a low body count when he has high BC and he can justify it as a preference, then woman can prefer a guy who pays first day.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Brian is just immature and visualizes sperm in a rainbow.
	Oh, Streamlabs changed it.
	Sperm in the JJ.
	Because YouTube.
	I don't know.
	Justin Martin's donated $20.
	Brian starts getting too vulnerable.
	Better hide the burritos.
	Nobody wants to see that.
	Bro, relax, man.
	Chill out, man.
	Damn.
	Thank you, though.
	Thank you, Justin.
	Snapmore donated $19.99.
	Bricks and getting white girl wasted.
	Wasted.
	If it's hard for you to close your legs, that's your virtue.
	Men who don't want high body counts, that's their virtue.
	Be less hoe-eye.
	W, yo, W's in the chat for Snapmore.
	What a fucking legend.
	Can you guys?
	I want you guys all to hold.
	Once you're done, you gotta hold up, spread the makeup wipe, and hold it up to the camera.
	It's so hard, I can't see.
	I know, I feel like I'm missing the spot.
	Oh, you know, it'd be interesting if we had people do half-face.
	Like, just only remove it on half your face.
	Did you get something?
	Oh, that'd be really good.
	You like a hold of first a little bit.
	Oh, boy, I only had fucking mascara.
	I only had mascara.
	You don't look bad.
	I can't see her under my eyes.
	Yeah, you hear that?
	You don't look bad.
	You just look a little bit.
	That's what he said.
	You don't look bad.
	Do I look like I just woke up?
	Hold it up to the cameras.
	Hold it up to the cameras.
	What you hold it up.
	Hold it up.
	Let's see the damage.
	Let's see the damage.
	Anissa, hold that up.
	All right.
	What do we have over here?
	Okay.
	You used how.
	Oh, hold the other one up.
	There's another.
	There's two.
	You can't.
	Don't hide this.
	Y'all don't even need makeup for real.
	Shit.
	Y'all look pretty much the same without it.
	He looks different without your glasses on.
	Don't do it.
	Yeah.
	No, you look good both, but like, well, okay, so we did the okay.
	I think that's pretty much it.
	We're gonna wrap up here on the next one.
	Makeup, bonny count.
	We did all that.
	It's actually really I tried it last time and tired again.
	Break me out too.
	Eric, any final thoughts here before we wrap up the show?
	Or any other girls' final thought before we wrap?
	Don't ask women their body count.
	Ask before you even meet them on the first day.
	Yes.
	Over test.
	You don't ask men to pay for the date then.
	Boom.
	Rush.
	I don't.
	I'll be right back.
	I have every right to say that.
	Body count does matter.
	But the whole world knows my body count now, so y'all know.
	We all together.
	Family.
	In the club, we all fam.
	Yeah, man.
	So this is all y'all first time.
	This is your second time, third, fourth, fifth?
	Okay, okay.
	Y'all all do content?
	Do y'all have, are y'all all content creators on your own?
	Nah, I'm an inspiring actress, but I don't know why you say it.
	I don't really talk about it.
	But I am a babysitter.
	That's what I go by because that's how I make money.
	What's your secret talent, real quick?
	What's my secret talent?
	You know how to sing, dance, something.
	Last call.
	Like guitar.
	How do you see?
	Oh, you talented in the motherfucker.
	What about you?
	I can make a W with my tongue.
	Can we see it?
	Let me practice.
	It's been like five years.
	Let me make sure I do it, guys.
	Well, you act if you want.
	Yeah, no.
	My hidden talent, I don't have one.
	I'm literally not talking about it.
	What about you?
	Get a roasting.
	Singing.
	Somebody roasting.
	Okay, what about you?
	She needs to be.
	She can do Stirmaster for 60 minutes.
	Damn.
	That's not that.
	What's Stairmaster?
	I can't last on that.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm probably the laziest person y'all ever met.
	You don't have any artistic talent?
	I could draw and paint.
	I have a question for the two virgins.
	Is there like a dude?
	Maybe it's a celebrity, musician, that you would lose your virginity to right away.
	Like Cal, like Conan O'Brien, discipline.
	Conan O'Brien, maybe Burt Reynolds.
	Maybe.
	Burt Reynolds, bro.
	They're 23.
	27 and 20.
	You don't know Burt Reynolds?
	Absolutely not.
	You guys say somebody like Chris Brown.
	I don't know if they picked.
	Look, look, look, look.
	She's ready.
	How about somebody?
	Who's the hot dudes now?
	Who's the new guys?
	They don't know who Burt Reynolds is.
	Dylan O'Brien.
	Timothy Chalamet.
	Oh.
	Oh, she knows.
	Look, she's Jason Momo.
	I know somebody.
	Who?
	Who you got?
	Who I got?
	Like my celebrity crush?
	Like, who would you smash?
	Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	He was in Aaron Taylor Johnson.
	Aquaman.
	He's my number one.
	I would do Johnny Depp.
	Who's that?
	I don't care how old that man gets.
	Bullet train.
	Bullet train.
	No.
	Oh, the one from the Asian one.
	Like, is it a Korean drama?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Fire movie.
	Fire movie.
	So bad.
	So good.
	Oh.
	So you said Johnny Depp?
	I said Johnny Depp.
	I don't care how old that man gets.
	Oh, that's okay.
	Johnny Depp is whole.
	So you're cool with the age gap thing?
	Yeah.
	Who's the oldest dude you'll talk to?
	At your age?
	Probably like 35.
	Okay.
	What's your oldest?
	My oldest?
	No.
	I don't have an oldest.
	Your favorite answers, I don't know.
	You funny.
	Who's the oldest you'll date?
	32, 33.
	And how old are you?
	25.
	It's okay.
	Okay.
	You?
	You a baby.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I say, what, 23 for you?
	Maybe 23?
	22?
	Okay, yeah.
	I don't know.
	It's just like we'd be in two different places like mentally and like with experiences.
	A 23-year-old kind of, a 23-year-old man kind of add up to 18-year-old.
	It kind of works itself out.
	Same era.
	We'll see.
	Because it's like immaturity.
	Like, men are more immature.
	10 years.
	Yeah.
	10 years.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mine call it 10 years too.
	Okay.
	That was a young fuck.
	You know what, Eric?
	What do you, how about this?
	We'll wrap the show.
	We'll let the rest of the chats come through.
	We'll wrap the show with this.
	What are you looking for in a girl?
	And I'll also do the same and then we'll wrap up.
	You're not going to do it.
	Last time you always say these things at the last thing, last minute, then you're like, I'm just never going to say that.
	Oh, I'll ask.
	I could have sworn you asked me a question.
	I don't know what happened, but it's okay.
	I'm going to go with it.
	You said, what do I look for in a girl?
	Loyalty, consistency, love, peace, humor, a sense of style.
	A good listener.
	Know how to turn on the sex appeal, but turn it off at the same time.
	Like, I don't want nobody that's showing everybody everything.
	Just trumpets.
	Some type of modesty.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But just really just loyalty, consistency, and just understanding.
	Because I feel like, you know, some women are just very hard to understand what a man deals with.
	Just loyalty and understanding is the most important thing.
	Of course, attractiveness and all that shit, but loyalty, understanding.
	That's my list.
	I'll break it down into looks and personality.
	And I wrote this down so I could blast through it as quickly as possible.
	All right, so like from a relationship, and then I'll go into like the specifics of like what I want from an individual girl.
	So want to meet a great girl, date for a couple years, travel a bunch.
	Maybe end up living in Hawaii, no big deal.
	What the fuck?
	Chill out, guys.
	Have her help me with my mission, then start having kids.
	I'm thinking like a solid like seven kids would be pretty good.
	Like maybe pump out like seven sons would be good.
	That's my go-to number.
	Seven sons.
	Then we have a fucking empire.
	We got a fucking empire.
	We got a dynasty, son.
	That's what I'm trying to do, you know?
	There's a I'm not super religious, but there's a really dope.
	I'm going to butcher this so bad.
	There's a Christian, a Bible verse.
	I don't know.
	Somebody in the chat can help me.
	It's about the arrow thing.
	Like arrows or sorry.
	Well, no, it's sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a warrior.
	Blessed is he who has a full quiver.
	That's fucking gang.
	That's fire, son.
	You know what I mean?
	I had a daughter, so I guess I got a slingshot.
	You have a slingshot.
	Or a I was going to say trebuchet, but that was a good thing.
	I was told that real men have daughters and boys have little boys.
	You know what I heard is like dudes who are like kind of players, they end up having daughters.
	It might be some truth to that shit.
	Like goddamn it.
	Like the player dudes.
	I think it's some truth to dude.
	The super masculine dudes have daughters.
	Because they know they're going to teach their daughters what to avoid.
	You got to be a player to know the game, you feel me?
	So, but I think there's some truth to that because all the dudes I know that have really been outside got a lot of daughters.
	Brian, you're not Christian, but do you like have the same views kind of like Christianity views?
	Do you think?
	Or do you lean more conservative with your views?
	Yeah.
	I'd say I'm pretty conservative.
	Is religion a deal breaker?
	Like if you if he's Muslim, you Christian or he you're Muslim, he's Christian.
	Do you think that matters in the grand scheme of things what a person believes or as opposed to what they how they actually live?
	Because I could believe what you believe and not live how you live.
	But that's if they push it on you though.
	Like if they like I think religion shouldn't be a deal breaker.
	Why does it matter?
	Why does it matter?
	Because then your beliefs need to align.
	I mean, are you saying that the beliefs will align?
	You just don't believe in the same thing.
	But how does what is what is an express belief outside of behavior?
	Because I can tell you I believe whatever, but don't I have to live something?
	Because you got two men.
	Yeah, you have to live up to your beliefs.
	So you got two men.
	You got one man that goes to church all the time, but he whoops your ass.
	Then you got another man who don't go to church, but he lives Christ-like.
	Yeah, but then who you gonna go with?
	The one who believes what you believe or the one who lives it?
	Well, the one that aligns with my beliefs.
	Based on living or what he say?
	Well, what he's doing, his actions.
	But what if he don't believe what you believe, but he lived like he lived like in the principled life?
	But he don't believe what you believe, but he lives right.
	Wait, what?
	Like anybody, like, he lives it, but he don't.
	He said, hey, I don't go to church.
	I don't deal with that, but I'll live right.
	Well, I want to raise my kids in the church, and I want to raise my kids to love God and to follow Jesus.
	So I would hope that the person I pick and end up with follows that same line of life.
	I found the first by the way.
	It's like arrows in the hands of a warrior are the sons born in one's youth.
	And there's more to it, but I don't, it's not showing the rest.
	Did those dudes you deal with, did they believe in Jesus too?
	Yeah, they did.
	But they weren't as religious as I say I am.
	Oh, I forgot.
	I forgot to finish.
	Oh, yeah.
	So it's like, also, like, I just want to, I do want to take care of everything.
	Like, I'm in the place where I can.
	I can take care of everything.
	I want her to help me when it comes to my mission.
	And but I'd be happy to have her like take care of everything, all the bills, everything.
	I'd want her to take care of the children because I do think that is the most optimal.
	Instead of like throwing the kids in daycare, throwing the kids into like having a nanny, I think the most optimum situation when it comes to raising kids is having the mother take what you don't you disagree or okay.
	I do think the most optimum thing is having the mom be the primary caretaker, taking care of the children 100%.
	And yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Looks.
	Any race is fine, but I slight preference for either Asian women, white women, or Latina women.
	But I'll date, I'll date as long as whatever.
	I'll date anybody.
	I slight preference for like petite, short, whatever.
	But I'll date a girl taller than me.
	I don't care.
	I'll date a girl who's like six foot seven.
	Or she could be like 5'2 ⁇ .
	She could be a dwarf technically.
	She could be like 4'9, whatever.
	So you wouldn't date a black girl?
	I know, I didn't hear that.
	I would date a black girl, but I don't think black girls wanted me to mess with you.
	I feel most black girls.
	I feel like that about white girls.
	I feel like I'm too black for white girls.
	What?
	You're too.
	White girls love black men.
	Yeah, they love a certain kind.
	They're kind of black guy.
	They don't like all black.
	I'm telling you, I've been studying this.
	I'm on white.
	If you notice this, listen, I could be wrong.
	If you notice this, no offense to white women.
	They only, I'm talking about the bad ones, not Becky from the trailer park.
	Yeah.
	The bad white chicks only deal with dudes who fit a certain aesthetic that they associate with athletics.
	I've never seen a bad white girl with a man, a black man who wasn't in tip-top shape.
	Think about it.
	I have.
	I've seen the clock.
	I haven't seen it.
	I ain't talking about no white girls who try to act black.
	I'm talking about straight up Becky from the suburbs.
	Yeah, like they deal with dudes who look like they play D1 football or basketball.
	You'd be surprised that that white girl.
	I've seen people, like, I'm just like, how did that black man pull that white girl?
	I'm like, surprised.
	Wow, that's kind of.
	He must have had a bag.
	Probably because some of those white girls.
	But if you're in shape, they go for that.
	You got to be in tip-top shape.
	You can get a white girl.
	You know, tip-top shape?
	What else?
	Nah, no, I'm not in tip-top shape.
	No, I ain't gonna front.
	I'm close, but not quite.
	Going back, I'm a natural body supremacist, okay?
	Natural body supremacist.
	I don't want the fake, the fake, you know, the BBL and the fake titties.
	Nah.
	Nah, get out of here.
	And then what else?
	And then, oh, personality, introverted, prefer introverted is pretty good.
	And introverted is a introverted.
	The one that's like shy.
	I mean, I'll date.
	I'll date an extroverted woman, but I do probably prefer introverted because I'm more introverted.
	So prefer that.
	Yeah, I want me an anime geek.
	Anime geek.
	Anime geek.
	Like a weeb?
	You want to date?
	I want all the ladies.
	I want me a nerd.
	Like you want me.
	You grew up on a farm.
	Like this?
	Illa?
	A no.
	You want an oo-woo?
	Ill.
	What?
	What's an ooh?
	You just put me up on a new word.
	That you don't want to.
	You need the ooh girls that go like that with their eyes.
	I just want a girl who just ain't on the scene.
	You know what I mean?
	Give me a nerve, man.
	Wait, can you do that again?
	With the eye thing?
	Yeah.
	What else do they do?
	Oh, they go like, ooh, nothing.
	That was good job.
	Did that do anything for you or no?
	You know, like they say on the computer, they have like the little heads of cats.
	Not the weirdos, but just not the one that's too far out with all the piercings and all the paints.
	And they have like the anime posters in the background.
	I want a girl who's more into being in the house than being in the street, basically.
	Okay.
	A homebody.
	A homebody.
	Couch potato.
	Yep.
	Give me that.
	Word.
	Okay.
	I have a bunch of other shit, but I'm tired.
	I don't know.
	Let's go.
	Modesty is good, I guess.
	You know, doesn't party, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs.
	I'm an old man.
	All that stuff.
	Oh, undivided romantic and sexual attention from the get-go.
	That's kind of big.
	Like, I don't want to date a girl who's like, even if she's not sleeping with other men, she's dating like five other dudes, don't like it.
	But if she's certainly, if she's sleeping with another guy, that's a deal.
	I got a quick question for you.
	I want to see my little brother today.
	I hope he watching now.
	Do I look 44?
	No.
	Somebody told me I look like I'm 43.
	You don't look a day over 29.
	Yeah, black don't crack.
	No?
	Then it'll shatter.
	Play that cricket.
	No, it's not.
	How old I look?
	Give me a number.
	29.
	I would say at the mid-30s.
	I would say 32.
	I don't have my head gas, so don't gas me.
	I say 32.
	32?
	I'm sorry, 32, 32?
	I know.
	I'm sorry.
	No, it's all good.
	All good.
	32, you said?
	Okay, thank you.
	How old are you?
	I'm 39.
	I'll be 40 next year.
	Yeah, I would say 32.
	No, you don't want to be in.
	I appreciate that.
	Oh, what the frick?
	All right, guys.
	So last call on any of the chats.
	Last call.
	What the?
	I'm sorry guys, my fucking...
	Offline.
	What the?
	A.
	Okay, my laptop's tripping.
	Cox.
	Fucking cocks.
	Damn.
	God damn, cocks.
	You gotta drive back to LA.
	Wait, what was your question again about the age?
	It's really more like complex.
	No, I'm saying how old you thought I was.
	Like, how old you'll date?
	Yeah, the oldest you'll date.
	Okay.
	Sorry, I thought you asked me a whole other question.
	Okay, I will go for like 50.
	50?
	50?
	You go, bro.
	You go, girl.
	I just want to get that coming up.
	A man's blessing is a woman that's half his age plus seven years.
	How do you feel about that, Brian?
	Wait, the ideal one?
	The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said, the ideal mate for a man is a woman half his age plus seven years.
	How do you feel about that?
	So if he's 40, it would be 27.
	You think 27-year-old and a 40-year-old is an ideal mate?
	Could you see yourself with a 27-year-old at 40?
	Sure.
	I think the logic makes a lot of sense.
	I think it's kind of true.
	I like younger women personally.
	Wait, I thought you were not about the age gap stuff.
	No, I said at 40, I'm not dealing with a 20-year-old.
	Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But if you over 25 and up, yeah, you can get it.
	You can have it.
	Okay, all right.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Hey, cool, cool, cool.
	All right.
	I think I got this back working.
	I'm going to let the final chats come through.
	Final call, guys, on the chats, then we're going to wrap.
	Master Malvoliant donated $20.
	The most beautiful woman is the one who wake up and looks like she had hell of a night.
	He kind of wrote.
	Oh.
	Wait, what does he mean?
	Because, yeah, I know what he's saying.
	Pretty with no makeup more.
	That's when you're prettiest.
	I hope you don't take it wrong.
	You know, Drake told you that.
	Wait, I don't know if.
	Is that a Drake lyric?
	Oh, yeah, it is.
	what he said but he was alluding to something that Drake Clark 69 donated $20 a vasectomy is the best type of birth control verify I'd in the anatomy of a female rainbows service uterus and fallopian tube PS Clap TRP69 is nothing to do with gender or sex.
	It's born.
	Yo, Clap Chat, thank you for the message, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Ooh, this one.
	Just a voice donated $20.
	Honestly, girls, you all look naturally beautiful without the paint.
	For real.
	If you want a long-term, serious man, take less of that stuff.
	Brian, get rid of that belly.
	I'm working on it, boys.
	Y'all are pretty without the makeup, though.
	Y'all need that.
	Joe Murphy donated $20.
	Taking the beg advice from a lady that clearly has no idea on how to be humble.
	Simply to take some world advice.
	This is an example of how modern-day feminism has brainwashed women.
	Uh-oh.
	Stay classy.
	Stay classy.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	Yo, thank you, man.
	Brian is essentially Christian because Andrew will bring him into the anti-occapostolic church one day.
	I started coughing.
	Choked on some butter.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	Eric with the best guidance from the honorable prophet.
	Islam, brother.
	All right.
	What is the greeting, Assale?
	How's it going?
	As-salamu alaykum.
	As-salamu alaykum.
	As-salamu alaykum or Islam depends.
	It's two different trains of thoughts.
	You got the Nation of Islam, you got the Morris Science Temple of America.
	But that's another combination.
	Another kind.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That might donate a whole show.
	You know, it's a whole other side to your boy that you don't even know about.
	Anissa, there's two super chats.
	I'm going to have you read these.
	Everyone, cross your arms harder, Brian.
	Make this the penultimate show.
	Spare us and end it.
	Yo, Cluster, thank you, man.
	Do appreciate the super chat.
	Wait, what the fuck?
	Wait, hold on.
	Is that copacetic?
	Uh, is that?
	Yo, that's Bulgari- BGN.
	What currency is that, man?
	BGN?
	What currency?
	BGN?
	Currency?
	One Bulgarian, bro, that's, you're abusing.
	You're donating in Bulgarian currency.
	So 20.
	What is 20?
	That's bro, that's below the threshold, man.
	I'm sorry, dude.
	I'm sorry, Wes Watson.
	But thank you for the Bulgarian lev.
	That's the first time we've ever received any sort of Bulgarian currency.
	Okay, go to Twitch really quick.
	Guys, final thing.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	Drop us a Prime sub.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	if you have a prime sub available for before we wrap here guys it's six hours bro guys Rude.
	Drop us a Prime sub and a follow up, you guys.
	I think it's bugged.
	It's actually literally bugged because there's no way we haven't gotten one follower.
	That shit has to be bugged.
	Whatever.
	Drop us a follow on Prime Sub if you guys have one available.
	Guys, like the video, please.
	Okay, I think that's pretty much everything.
	We hit on everything.
	Boom, boom, boom.
	Cool.
	We're going to do a Twitch raid.
	I'm going to do the outro here right now, real quick.
	So, GG to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please.
	On your way out, thank you for tuning in tonight, guys.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We could not do the show without you guys.
	It's, you know, the show is fan-funded.
	So, do appreciate it.
	We're not doing like sponsorships or not getting some crazy Spotify deals anytime soon.
	So, appreciate the patronage, guys.
	Your generosity allows the show to continue.
	Big thank you to the wonderful panel here.
	It was a long show.
	I do appreciate you guys.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Great panel.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got another great show lined up.
	We got the great Illisophical era.
	Follow the page at Illosophical.
	At Illosophical, Illosophical Radio.
	And ladies, I would love to collaborate with y'all.
	If y'all want to come on the channel and chop it up, you're more than welcome to do so.
	So, yeah, holla at me.
	I'm out here.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, 07 is in the chat.
	We're going to do a raid over to, let me see who's playing.
	I think we only have a few options here.
	I think we're going to do Frost Adamus if you can get him pulled up here.
	Is that all we got?
	Joker D just went online, but we're going to raid Frost Adamas.
	He's playing hardcore.
	He's playing World of Warcraft.
	He's an Orc Warrior.
	Pull that up.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you for watching on Twitch.
	I'm going to send the raid over here in just a few seconds.
	Mute the audio just right now, just because he's playing music.
	All right, guys.
	He's Romanian.
	He's playing World of Warcraft.
	He's in Ungoro Crater playing an Orc Warrior hardcore.
	So I'm going to send the raid right now.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	All right, that should be sending.
	You can unmute it here just temporarily.
	I'm just going to talk over this bullshit fucking track.
	Oh, look at that.
	Paterodax.
	He's killing the Pateridax.
	Isn't that so amazing?
	Wow, look at that.
	No, it's, I don't know the name.
	I mean, it's MMO.
	RPG.
	All right, there it is.
	Okay, cool.
	That's welcome, everyone.
	Welcome.
	All right, you can exile that.
	Okay, cool.
	Let me just double check.
	Nope, we're all caught up on chat.
	I'll cut up on everything.
	Okay, guys.
	07s in the chat.
	07s in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	And we will see you guys on Tuesday.

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