Whatever Podcast - RAGE QUIT?! Do Modern Women DESERVE Chivalry? They Would Date CEO Assassin Luigi?

Dec. 11, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

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RAGE QUIT?! Do Modern Women DESERVE Chivalry? They Would Date CEO Assassin Luigi? | Dating Talk #220

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	My name is Peyton.
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	Very cool.
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	Meta gaming.
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	Yeah, eventually it'll turn into gambling.
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	Yeah.
	I have no idea what that is.
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	Hi, I'm Ninzi.
	I'm also from Los Angeles.
	Is mine out?
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	No.
	Oh, it's maybe because we scooted you over, possibly.
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	Go ahead.
	I'm Ninzi.
	I'm from Los Angeles, and I'm 24.
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	I am Lily, and I'm from Fontana, California, and I'm a model.
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	I'm 24.
	24.
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	Welcome, welcome.
	I'm Morgan.
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	I'm Anissa.
	I'm 19, and I go to UCSP.
	It's your man Eric, aka Illosophical.
	I'm 39 by way of New Jersey, construction management.
	I also have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page.
	You can follow me at Illosophical and Illosophical Radio on YouTube.
	Peace.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It's a popular entertainment channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, a political satirist, and I enjoy doing conversations, debates all over the world.
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	All right.
	Welcome, Andrew.
	So also, I did want to ask around the table before we get into everybody's relationship status.
	Any school, college, university?
	Yeah, I dropped out of college.
	Okay, what were you studying?
	My major was business and marketing, but I was going to a fashion school.
	So I was like, oh, fashion, like, what is it?
	Fiddom?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	A lot of YouTubers go there.
	I wanted to be like them.
	Did you go to like a non-fashion school though?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	School?
	Any school?
	Yeah, I graduated from UCLA in 2020 with my degree in psychology.
	Bachelor's, master's?
	Bachelor's.
	Bachelor's.
	Okay.
	Bachelor of Science or Art?
	Arts.
	Arts.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Straight out of high school, I did fitness and nutrition and was a personal trainer for a while.
	And in my early 20s, I did emergency.
	They're eating our dots.
	Oh.
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	I turned that shit.
	It should not be coming through on fucking on from Super Chats, you scoundrel.
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	School, though, college, university?
	Or was that for the fitness?
	And then the EMS.
	Nope.
	Those are just trade schools.
	Trade school.
	Okay, but no, like no college.
	Okay.
	You said EMS?
	Yes, sir.
	An ambulance driver?
	Not an ambulance driver.
	I actually just ended up working as a Good Samaritan without getting licensed and then getting the happy to see him back on.
	Friends, women are men and it would be gay to date one.
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	Any school for you?
	Yes, I went to SDSU.
	I love burritos, Brian, just like this.
	Sons of.
	Thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Friggin' TTS.
	I son TTS monster.
	Okay.
	And not gay.
	Thank you for that.
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	Just like spam.
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	School?
	Yeah, so I went to SDSU for graphic design.
	Okay.
	So you got your bachelor's or?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And sorry, did you...
	You skipped me, yeah.
	Yeah, my bad.
	School?
	I was like, I'm still in school.
	And you know, when you're in that stage of school where it's like you're going for something, but you kind of want to switch?
	I'm there, so I didn't really know how to answer the question.
	Can I have you scoot your mic down that way just a bit?
	Scoot it down.
	Yes, perfect.
	Okay.
	So you're still in school?
	Are you pursuing your, you have your associates or?
	Business marketing, yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	Because I already made my field.
	To the girl in the yellow shirt, I'm sorry.
	When you said you were doing EMS, you said you were doing volunteer, so you were doing like volunteer EMS work afterwards.
	Ultimately, that would be the goal is to, because with EMS, you have to get recertified every two years.
	So my goal would be to get recertified again and do officially volunteer work.
	But the last time I did it, I just stayed as a Good Samaritan to where basically if I was passing an accident or something like that.
	Yeah.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, thank you.
	All right.
	Unfortunately, I had to disable the stream, the TTS monster.
	I'm not sure why it's allowing those to come through.
	Very peculiar.
	Not sure why.
	So let's see here.
	Oh, you know what?
	Maybe it requires like a refresh.
	Eh, well, I'm not going to be able to do it.
	So going around the table, what's everybody's relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
	Go ahead.
	Single as fudge.
	My longest relationship was probably like a year.
	And what was the other question?
	How long have you been single for?
	Oof, too long.
	Just kidding.
	Like over a year.
	A little over a year.
	Okay.
	The relationship that ended a year ago, was that your one-year relationship?
	No.
	That was like one of like the very first, you know?
	How long was the relationship that ended a year ago?
	Four months.
	Four months.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him, was down to give him another chance, and he was like, no.
	I was like.
	Okay, and...
	So embarrassing.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And the one-year relationship, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	You broke up with him?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I feel like I'm basically in a relationship.
	It's just not like an official title to it yet.
	But yeah.
	Okay, so we'll just say relationship.
	How long have you been seeing this person?
	On and off for like over a year.
	On and off for over a year.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Has there ever been a title?
	No.
	No title?
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Not long.
	Like, this is my longest relationship.
	This is your longest sort of kind of relationship.
	Yes.
	How many times has it been on and off?
	I want to say like three or four.
	Three or four times?
	Who would initiate the off?
	Me.
	Who would initiate the back on?
	Me.
	So you'd break up with him or end things and then you'd go back to him?
	Yes.
	Why'd you break up end things, I guess, or whatever?
	Just not feeling like fully satisfied, I guess.
	Sexually?
	No, no, no.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Okay.
	In what ways were you not fully satisfied?
	I feel like it was more so just like how I was being treated.
	And also just having like a lot of like emotional baggage and like trauma from past relationships, I feel like that was kind of like affecting the way that I was treating him and like thinking of like thinking he was treating me.
	So yeah.
	And also just wanting to like keep my options open sometimes.
	During the course, during the past year, have you been involved with any other men?
	No.
	Even during the breaks?
	Okay, no, during the break, yes.
	Oh, yeah, that's what I mean.
	But like, yeah, on when we're not on a break, no, not dealing with other men.
	Okay.
	And then I'm trying to think here.
	So it's been on and off a couple different times.
	Do you want the title?
	And he's not giving it or what's going on there?
	No, I just don't think I'm ready.
	And I think he knows that I'm not ready.
	Oh, so he wants to be boyfriend, girlfriend, but you're not ready.
	Something like that.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Did your previous relationships change your expectations or lack thereof with your current guy?
	Definitely.
	Okay, make sure y'all take the notes that I've been saying that for like the last two episodes that it's not necessarily about the bodies.
	It does matter, but it really matters what type of guys they was with.
	So I'm glad you confirmed that for me because I be saying that and casting them crazy, but I'm glad you just said that.
	So you said you want to keep your options open.
	What does that mean?
	Wanted and wanted.
	I'm not saying that right now.
	Not right now.
	Yeah.
	When I felt that way, it was more so like feeling like I could do better.
	But then sometimes I guess my mind changes and then it's like, honestly, I think that somebody is better and like later down the line, I find out that they're not.
	Like a lot of men just want to like waste my time or like, you know, just interested in me sexually.
	But like this is somebody that I know really loves and cares about me like nobody else.
	It sounds, can I jump in?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't want to be funny, but are you like playing with him a little bit?
	It sounds like you like, you know, he's there.
	So like you're not taking him seriously.
	You feel like, he's never going to leave you.
	So you see if you can do better, but you find out you can't, you come back to him.
	And like, it sounds like that.
	So what you're doing?
	Um, no, because, okay, I did it once, but that's not every single time we fell off.
	It wasn't that.
	Like, it was also just me.
	Like, I can admit I was tripping, like, just thinking he was doing shit.
	I mean, just think he was doing things that he probably wasn't even doing.
	And I was just overthinking.
	Like, that's something else that came into play.
	Like, it was multiple reasons why.
	But yes, when we like first started and I was keeping my options more open, it was kind of more so like, yes, I know I have him.
	And I kind of want to see what I have to, like, my other options that I have too.
	But he also had options when I had my options.
	So it wasn't like I'm playing with him.
	Like, he knew I was always honest about it.
	Can I ask a question though?
	Did he ever like initiate, oh, I do want to be with you, though?
	Or like, you know, put that leadership in for that?
	Yes.
	Is he the assertive type or is he more like the passive kind of guy?
	Very assertive.
	Really?
	Yes.
	And he's letting you do all that.
	Letting me do all what?
	Play with him.
	I'm not playing with him.
	You're definitely playing with him.
	Got him on a yo-yo, but you know, that's on him.
	Shout out to you, man.
	I couldn't do it.
	Can you like elaborate a little bit more on that for me?
	Indubitably.
	I think that if you really like me personally, if I like somebody and I'm expressing that, you're not going to be able to.
	I'm not a revolving door because it's setting the expectation that you're the prize.
	Not saying that women, not the prize.
	I'm not getting to that conversation.
	I think we both deprived, depending on the situation.
	But I think if you allow a woman to keep doing that with you, you're telling her that she got you.
	And you're kind of like optional.
	And she's like your destination.
	I think that sets a bad precedent moving forward because at some point, you're not going to really respect him as much as you probably would respect the guy who says either me or the highway.
	In my opinion, that's just my humble opinion.
	I couldn't tolerate that because it's like, if I'm not your first choice, why should you be mine?
	He is my first choice.
	You can choose him.
	I mean, she kind of is if she's still with him right now.
	Because he letting her do it.
	But they're not really together.
	They're in a situation shit.
	Right?
	It's not even official.
	I don't know, baby.
	That is true.
	Another setup.
	It's hard for me, I guess, to open up about this publicly just because of my platform.
	So I don't want to just throw it out all on the table.
	But like, there's like, it's not him.
	It's me.
	Of course it is.
	Like, I. I'm not playing with him.
	Like, I love him.
	I think, I think you probably, probably, you know, you're an attractive young lady.
	You probably just got a lot of options and it's probably overwhelming you.
	You probably don't know what the person is.
	I don't even want those options, truthfully, because they don't love you.
	You may not want them, but you have them.
	Okay.
	I mean, he probably has them too, though.
	Yeah, he does.
	It's a little different.
	He did admit earlier.
	He does have options.
	But he want her.
	So obviously his options are not.
	I'm better than his options.
	But that's just what he's saying, big head.
	He said he want her.
	She said, I don't know yet.
	I never said, like, I don't know yet.
	Like, I do want him.
	What you waiting for?
	A nice proposal.
	Tom is of the essence, man.
	A nice proposal.
	You got more.
	Oh, no, no, that's it.
	You know, she's often.
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	Always been single.
	I've dated, never been in a relationship.
	Okay.
	Longest time I dated someone without it ever becoming a relationship.
	It's 10 months.
	Other than that, probably just the traditional three months.
	That's like all the time.
	Once you get to know someone for three months, you know him enough by then to know if it's going to work out or not.
	So in 35 years, you never had a boyfriend?
	That's correct.
	Jeez.
	That's correct.
	All right.
	But you did say there was one guy you saw for like 10 months.
	Yeah.
	10 months.
	Okay.
	When's the last time you've been on a date with a guy?
	Oh, the last time I've been on a date with a guy was recently, I don't know, a couple weeks ago.
	Okay.
	Are you celibate?
	Yes.
	How long have you been celibate for?
	Years, years, and years.
	How long?
	Back to 2017.
	So you've been celibate to like seven or seven, eight years?
	Yeah, yeah, except for that one person in there in 2021.
	Wait, that was the 10-month person.
	Who you were having sex with.
	Yes.
	So you've been celibate for three years and then, yeah, before.
	But there's like one person in.
	Yes.
	Wait, so okay.
	So you've been celibate for three years.
	There's the 10-month guy, and then you've been celibate for four years.
	You were celibate for four years before him.
	Correct.
	Is that okay?
	All right.
	All right.
	What was so special about this 10-month guy?
	Actually.
	Celibacy longest.
	Actually, it's kind of a messed up story.
	So I guess this is the perfect place for it.
	You know what?
	Let's get everybody's relationship.
	We'll get into it, but let's get through everybody's relationship.
	Let's do it.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single for?
	A while, actually.
	Because my only one real relationship that I would say was like a real relationship of five years.
	I ended that in like 2020.
	Okay.
	So you were in a five-year, that's your longest relationship.
	And so you've been single for like four years?
	Or almost five years, yeah.
	Five years.
	Almost.
	We're getting there.
	Okay.
	And the five-year relationship, who ended it?
	I did.
	It was a mutual agreement.
	But originally, I started the process of it.
	Okay.
	Mutual breakup.
	And was there a specific reason?
	Cheating?
	Or just.
	Life.
	I mean, it was like high school sweethearts.
	We were like so young, and you're becoming a new adult.
	And like there were certain things I realized I wanted and like a partner and like certain things I needed to learn on my own and vice versa.
	Sure.
	And then I felt like we were comfortable with each other and I wanted us to experience certain things in life.
	And then you've been fully single for five years?
	You haven't dated anybody?
	I would say casually dating.
	I tried to give somebody a chance.
	It didn't go well, so I got scared to date date again.
	How long was that wasn't the five-year guy, though?
	That was a different time.
	No, this was after.
	This is between the.
	Okay.
	What's the longest period of time in this past five years you've been single that you've been you've seen anybody?
	A couple months.
	Like was like consistent with somebody?
	A couple months.
	Yeah, almost to a year.
	It was like, it started a couple months and then within that same year like trickled out.
	So like by the end of the year, I was like, I don't want to do that.
	So the total length of time you were seeing him was about a year.
	Did you call each other boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Did you say I love you?
	Like, not that I love you, but like, love you.
	Have a good day.
	Did he say it?
	Yeah.
	Is there a difference between love?
	I don't know.
	I think wine is rooted a little bit deeper.
	You know, so like you say love you casually, I feel like it's become to a friend, but if you're like dating somebody, he didn't say it either.
	This generation, y'all, y'all a little different.
	It's deeper rooted.
	Okay.
	That's different.
	And when's the last time you've been on a date or hung out with a guy in a romantic context?
	Yesterday?
	A long time.
	You got sneaky link.
	You got sneaky link right now.
	You got a couple of things.
	They don't make the cut.
	They don't make the rest in no way.
	Okay.
	No guys in the picture.
	Zero guys in the picture.
	Not in my picture.
	Actually, going back to you, zero guys in the picture.
	Zero.
	Not even Sneaky Link.
	No fun.
	No, no.
	Friends with benefits.
	No, I don't do that.
	Like a guy who smokes you out and then you fuck and then that's it.
	No, we do.
	She has her own weed.
	She has her own weed.
	Yeah, we have too much weed.
	They have too much weed.
	Are you guys roommates or you guys live together?
	They wish.
	I've talked about her before I smoked with somebody.
	She's trying to get me.
	What about you?
	I'm single and I've been single for two years.
	Single for two years?
	Longest relationship?
	Six months.
	Six months?
	All right.
	Was that the one that ended two years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay, who broke up with who?
	It was mutual.
	Mutual, really?
	Okay, so both at the same time, you guys were like, fuck you.
	It's over.
	Yeah.
	Basically.
	Really?
	Well, it was like going bad.
	The fizzle?
	Huh?
	Was it a fizzle?
	Fizzle out?
	We were just not talking as much anymore.
	And then, like, getting distant, and we just came to a conclusion that it's not going to work out.
	Oh, was it a long distance relationship?
	Like, from San Diego.
	Yeah, so I graduated college, I moved back home, and then I was like, I didn't want to drive anymore.
	Drive how far?
	It was two hours.
	But I'm doing that.
	And it's valid.
	I'm not doing that.
	It's valid.
	That's not even far like that.
	Okay, but if you're doing that, like.
	Dr. Alternato, meet the middle.
	Come on, man.
	Every day.
	Wait, so would you, more often than not, would you drive to him?
	Or would he drive to you?
	It was actually.
	Okay, so it was actually a girl.
	But.
	Okay.
	No, she was like really into partying and all that.
	Okay.
	And then I would be going down there more.
	I was like, I'm not doing this anymore.
	Okay.
	Were you ever with a man?
	Yes.
	Do you prefer a woman?
	Like long term, do you prefer a woman?
	Probably a man.
	Okay.
	So it was just like a phase or something.
	Oh, you just like both?
	No, I like both.
	Okay.
	So you're bisexual?
	Yes.
	Are you monogamous or are you poly?
	I'm monogamous.
	Monogamous.
	Okay.
	What's the longest period of time you dated a man?
	A couple months.
	Three months?
	Maybe like four months.
	Did you consider the six months?
	Was she your girlfriend?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	But and you, I don't know if you answered, you split the time driving to each other?
	Well, it ended like right when I graduated.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I see.
	Okay.
	Two hours.
	It's a bit too much.
	Too much.
	Okay.
	And you've been single for two years.
	When's the last time you went on a date with a lady friend or a guy?
	Maybe a month ago with a guy.
	Yeah?
	Was it just the first date?
	No, it's like the third date.
	Sneaky link?
	No.
	Did you guys have carnal knowledge?
	It was carnal.
	Did you guys hook up?
	We did.
	Okay.
	Why haven't you seen him?
	It's been.
	Is it over?
	Yes, it's over.
	Wait, so he was that the first time you guys hooked up on the third date?
	Or like you guys hooked up on like the first or second?
	No, that was the first time.
	On the third date.
	But it's not over because of that.
	Oh.
	Well, if you say so.
	What happened?
	What happened?
	Well, I was just texting him like once a day and like he didn't tell me that he wanted to communicate more with me.
	Wait, he told you he wanted to communicate more?
	No, he didn't tell me that until he ended it.
	Wait.
	So I was not talking to him as much and I was like texting him once a day.
	Or like.
	Wait, so he wanted you to text him more?
	I guess he wanted to call me or something.
	Because he called me once and then I didn't pick up.
	I was like, are you okay?
	And then he was like, Yeah, I'm good.
	But then, like, once he told me that he wanted to end things, he was like, Oh, I called you that one time.
	I thought it would make a habit for us to talk more.
	I think it's a generational thing.
	It's like men, they expect.
	I mean, if you get to know somebody, they expect to have some type of dialogue.
	Like, how do y'all think somebody's supposed to talk to you just from a good morning text?
	And that's it.
	Like, how do you?
	If you want to talk to me, talk to me in person.
	Wait, so what?
	But y'all, two hours away.
	Wait, I'm confused.
	I thought that was the girl.
	Oh, yeah, the girl was a little bit more.
	Okay, wait.
	Actually, this guy was from San Diego, too.
	So I was like, that's why I'm like, I don't want to be driving to you.
	But you got to think, if it's distance between you, you're definitely going to want to dialogue a little more since you can't see him all the time.
	Well, he could have expressed that he wanted to call me more or like text me more.
	There's no way that's the reason.
	I'm sorry.
	There's no way.
	He wanted to, he broke up with you because he wanted to talk to you more.
	Or he broke it.
	He said, no straight man ever.
	He's.
	Oh.
	I have the messages.
	Oh, wait.
	Oh, I want to text her more.
	I've definitely had instances like that where men did not like my communication and they stopped messing with me.
	That's definitely normal.
	That happens a lot.
	I mean, it's like if she's not responding to you, that's one thing.
	Is that what?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	This era needs flash cars.
	Yeah, you got to give them something.
	I probably won't reply until like nighttime.
	Or like I was going on a work trip and I was like, hey, I'm not going to be able to come.
	Because he wanted me to sleep over one time.
	But then I was like, I'm not going to sleep over anymore because I got a work trip on Sunday.
	And then that's when he hit me with the, oh, I don't think we should see each other anymore.
	Damn.
	Okay, all right.
	Yeah, you fumbled, I guess.
	I mean, did you like the guy?
	Assuming you did since you slept with him and liked him enough.
	I mean, like, he had a lot of traits and qualities that I liked in the man.
	Which were?
	He's like, hardworking.
	He actually planned stuff and he just put effort.
	So let me, can I ask y'all a question real quick?
	What?
	And maybe that's just how you feel, but I hear that from a lot of younger women.
	Why do a guy got to tell you he wants to talk to you?
	Like, if I'm getting to know you and we dating, you should assume I'm going to want to have a conversation here and there.
	Like, why I got to tell you that?
	Okay, but if he also wants to talk to me, he could call me more than once.
	Exactly.
	Or like double text me.
	But y'all don't like that.
	How do you know?
	But that's what they be saying.
	I've heard a lot of women say, you know, I'm being blow my phone up.
	Yeah, like blow up my phone up.
	But not enough to make him your guy.
	See, y'all like it because it feels good to your ego.
	And it's like, yeah, somebody on my line, but it's not enough to make you reciprocate, though.
	And that's the difference.
	That's why you laugh.
	Yes, it is.
	No, it's not.
	I will blow his phone up.
	Like, I will blow his phone up.
	Yeah, to get that validation.
	But if you blow my phone up, why you can't be my girl?
	Why are you blowing up somebody you only want to be with?
	Or you're unsure about?
	Oh, God.
	Sounds like ego.
	Just a little man.
	I'm sorry.
	It does.
	Me?
	Are you 70?
	Just not in general.
	When I hear that from women, because it's like, okay, if he likes him, if you like him that much to blow his phone up, why y'all can't really escalate the situation?
	Okay, I'm not going to blow anyone's phone up, actually.
	Like, I don't got time for that.
	Yeah, that ain't just that.
	I'm saying that's what she said.
	But wait, so to be clear, he would text you and you would just not respond.
	Okay, no.
	To the point he had to, like, double text.
	No, he doesn't.
	He doesn't double text me.
	That's the thing.
	Does it?
	But, yeah, he does.
	He's still texting you?
	No, he's not.
	Oh, okay.
	But, like, I would respond probably like a couple hours later.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	He was kind of tripping, to be honest.
	He was.
	You think it's tripping if I text you at three o'clock, you text me back at nine?
	That's cool to you?
	What was the delay?
	What if I'm at work?
	Yeah.
	What was the, yeah, if she's at work.
	If I'm at work, like, if I'm outside driving all day, like, I'm not gonna be on the work.
	Take what three seconds and say, Hey, um, I'm a little busy, but I'll talk to you later.
	Boom, men like that.
	We just want to be acknowledged.
	We don't want your life story, yeah.
	I mean, that is better.
	That is you feel ignored.
	You don't want to feel like you because why would he double-text somebody who's not texting back to one text?
	I already met you, I already spent time with you, so now I'm gonna feel weird if I gotta text you twice.
	Because a lot of women don't like that either.
	I'm just saying, y'all make it real hard.
	I feel sorry for these young cats, man.
	Y'all, they need like a genie to deal with y'all.
	Like, y'all be all over the place.
	Like, if a guy likes you, he's gonna contact you.
	In this generation, y'all don't want to be bothered or love bombs, so he's not gonna double-text you.
	We're hoping that she knows I like her, right?
	She knows I want to talk to her.
	We want y'all to just figure that out.
	Why?
	Figure it out.
	Why not just lay it out on the table for us?
	Like, he did.
	He laid it out on the table for you.
	Where did that get him?
	I'm talking about your guy.
	He laid it out.
	Oh, yeah, we're talking about you now.
	He laid it out for you.
	And where has that gotten him?
	It's got him to be in my life still.
	In your life, a part of your roster.
	No, I don't have a roster.
	It's literally just him.
	Just him.
	That's.
	I don't know, man.
	I'm getting player vibes over here.
	Maybe it's just me.
	Everybody gives player vibes for me.
	I'm so loyal.
	Like, I'm really a lover.
	I'm really a lover.
	A lover of what, though?
	Yourself?
	Or ain't nothing wrong with that.
	You might be in your me face.
	I do love myself.
	I have to love myself in order for somebody to love me.
	Is that not true?
	Absolutely, but you got to give it back sometimes.
	I do.
	I'll give him so much love.
	No, well, I mean, it's not true, right?
	I'm sure that there's tons of people who don't love themselves who are loved by many people.
	Right?
	That's true.
	That's facts.
	That's facts.
	Them people need the most love.
	Since this guy, the three-day guy, any rebounds?
	No.
	After him?
	No.
	Anything after him?
	Let me see.
	Oh, nothing serious.
	So there's a guy in the picture right now.
	There's no one in the picture.
	What do you?
	There's nothing.
	Sounds like there's something.
	No, I was just calculating.
	Like, what's going on?
	Calculating.
	There's no one in the picture, though.
	Nobody.
	No one.
	There's not a guy you're texting with, even.
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	Longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	I'm in a relationship.
	We've been together for six months, and my longest one ever was a year.
	All right.
	Eric.
	Single as a dollar bill, baby.
	Rock and roll.
	Oh, we have two things to pull up real quick.
	And then, well, three things.
	The first thing is, I don't know what the, I forgot what the order is.
	Oh, we have the.
	Let's do Lily's.
	She has a YouTube video.
	Now, Lily, this YouTube video of yours is your most viewed YouTube video.
	31,000 views.
	You said you're a YouTuber.
	31,000 views.
	I saw that was a model on your YouTube channel.
	It's your most viewed video.
	It's a seven-second video.
	I do want to congratulate you on it.
	Can you pull it up, Damien?
	Muted or unmuted?
	Muted.
	The title is Girl Eating a Banana in Japan with a View, parentheses, best YouTube video ever.
	And that's her.
	Congrats.
	That's really good.
	That was so natural.
	Yeah.
	Maybe we can recreate it later.
	I have some bananas here on the table.
	I can do anything.
	Got some bananas there.
	There they are.
	Stellar.
	Yes, it was stellar content.
	Very creative.
	Very.
	It's.
	Do you think that, you know, there's a term when it comes to artistes called a magnum opus?
	Do you know what this is?
	No.
	It is like your ultimate creation.
	Like, you know, there's.
	The Sistine Chapel.
	The Sistine Chapp, Leonardo da Vinci, like your sort of, if you think about Mozart.
	Mona Lisa, right?
	These would be all like that.
	Yeah, Mona Litz, Mona Litza.
	Pinnacle of your work.
	Like somebody that's out of the way.
	Like Beethoven, it could be his moonlight sonata, Mozart, maybe his Requiem.
	Is this your opus magnus?
	No.
	Okay.
	You haven't created it yet.
	Not yet.
	One day.
	One day.
	Yeah, one day.
	Maybe like a plantain or something.
	That'll perhaps an apple.
	An apple, maybe.
	Maybe like a mango.
	I'm the mango.
	That's a good idea.
	That's a good idea.
	And then I have another thing for Des.
	Destiny, right?
	Short for Destiny?
	Yes, that's me.
	That's you.
	Why?
	Wait, no, sorry.
	What?
	Wait, you're Dess?
	Yes.
	And who's Peyton?
	Me.
	Oh my, am I just, sorry, my papers were out of order.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Wait, you're Peyton?
	Yes.
	Hold on.
	You're Destiny.
	Yes.
	You're Peyton.
	And you're Ninzi?
	Yeah.
	Okay, all right.
	I looked at your Instagram.
	You're a surfer.
	Me?
	A little bit.
	Pull that up.
	I don't know how to do it.
	Pull it up.
	Literally.
	Now, play the scroll through the photos.
	I just make it.
	One bigger.
	There's one more.
	One more.
	Scroll down just a bit.
	No, you're in the comments.
	Scroll down.
	Go back to the first one.
	I need to critique this a little bit.
	Okay, first off, you're sitting way too far back on the surfboard.
	Secondly, why are you in, you don't, you're never in the shallows.
	Like, you're literally right in the shallow.
	Like, what are you doing?
	Like, you should be.
	Your feet are probably touching the bottom.
	They were.
	Safety.
	Your feet are.
	Like, you should never be here.
	Like, this is not a surf.
	I can't swim.
	I really just took this picture.
	You can't swim and you got on us.
	Yes.
	Bravery.
	This looks so good.
	I had to get this photo.
	Scroll through them again.
	Right.
	Yeah, your feet are like touching the bottom.
	They definitely are.
	You're like right at the shore break.
	Yep, I was.
	You're right.
	You're way too far back on the surface.
	You need to go back to Hawaii and retake this photo.
	You're too far back on the surfboard.
	You're freaking nosediving the bottom there.
	And go backwards in the photos.
	Go back.
	There's a guy paddling out.
	You got to paddle out.
	He's still getting through the short break.
	That's, okay, anyways, whatever.
	Got to work on that.
	And that's pretty much it for my commentary.
	So the surfboard and the banana thing.
	All right.
	Pull up the first React, Damien.
	Yeah, the TikTok with the dogs.
	Okay, so ladies, before we pull it up, tell me if you resonate with this.
	You gotta go.
	Can you go F11?
	Can you go full screen?
	TikTok?
	Can you go full screen on TikTok?
	No.
	Like at the bottom on the TikTok.
	No, not through F11.
	Is there a full screen button?
	No.
	Fucking TikTok.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	We'll just play it.
	Fucking dog shit TikTok.
	So this is me ignoring all the red flags because I just want love.
	So play it again.
	Play it again.
	So you guys are that little dog.
	Yeah.
	And the men you date, and that's you ignoring all the red flags because you want love.
	Do any of you resonate with that?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Video?
	No.
	No?
	Really?
	Really?
	Anybody?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	Not as a third person.
	All these stories come on the show.
	Oh, I was in an abusive relationship.
	I was.
	He was so toxic, blah, blah, blah.
	It's like, you know what I mean?
	What do you mean?
	Okay.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, that's going to segue into kind of one of our initial main topics of today.
	Are you guys familiar with this assassin who killed the healthcare or health insurance CEO in New York City a couple days ago?
	You guys familiar with the story?
	I just learned about it too.
	Just curious, who saw his updated photos?
	Like mugshot?
	You've seen it?
	I've seen it.
	Seen it, seen it, seen it.
	Okay.
	Why don't we?
	Hold on.
	How do I want to do this?
	Let's pull up the New York NYPD thing first.
	All right.
	And then click on the first one.
	All right.
	That's the mug shot of the guy.
	And then go to the next tab.
	That's a mug shot.
	Or sorry, not mug shot.
	It's excuse me.
	CCTV.
	Next.
	They allowed this.
	Okay.
	And then, so that's him.
	Yeah.
	Would you guys date him?
	After his murder or before his murder?
	After the murder.
	No.
	No.
	He's cute, though.
	He's cute.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Okay.
	And not in his jail photos.
	Wait, who's talking about his arrest?
	Somebody wears the mug shots.
	We'll get those.
	We'll pull those up.
	All right.
	So there's his eyebrows.
	That's kind of cute.
	He's attractive.
	Post-arrest photo.
	And then is there.
	I think there's one more that's him.
	What's I'm trying to think?
	Oh, okay, we're good for there.
	That was scary.
	Do it.
	Do any of you find criminal men attractive?
	Just show of hands.
	How do you know if they're criminal men?
	Right.
	You mean like after, like, oh, we go search up.
	What about the criminal aesthetic?
	No.
	No.
	You know the gangster look.
	No.
	I like the person for who they are.
	And if it comes with a little bit of fly gangsters, I like it.
	You might like it on that person.
	I don't like that.
	But I mean, I like what you would call a white-collar, blue-collar people, too, who have like a regular job or like are trying to be customer to the white-collar look or I don't prefer either.
	It's how I feel about that person in the moment of time.
	Like, if I really like you.
	With the tatted up sleeve underneath.
	I think it's called white-collar drink.
	Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	Okay.
	So, have any of you dated a drug dealer?
	Yes.
	Well, you guys are drug dealers, kind of, right?
	No.
	Well, legal.
	Technically, I have my own brand.
	But have you dated a drug dealer?
	I never asked questions.
	That's a yes.
	Yeah.
	By proxy.
	What does that?
	I'm sorry.
	What does that mean?
	What do you mean by proxy?
	Like you were fucking a guy who knew a drug dealer?
	No, it means like he used drugs.
	It was the whole situation.
	But he used drugs and every once in a while he sold them.
	So technically.
	But he wasn't like.
	He wasn't like a dealer.
	That's not by proxy.
	That's just yes, you dated a drug dealer.
	Well, yes.
	But it wasn't.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I mean, I'm in the industry by, what's it called?
	By default.
	Yeah.
	Well, like, excluding, I guess, legal drug sales.
	Oh, then, no.
	I wouldn't say that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've been on dates with one before.
	Okay.
	And then, what drugs was he selling?
	Cocaine, meth, heroin.
	I've dated like multiple?
	Yeah, I dated multiple.
	One was like strictly like just weed.
	And then there was another who sold like everything.
	Okay.
	But we didn't date for long.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Strictly weed.
	Okay.
	I thought you ain't asked no questions.
	Huh?
	I thought you didn't ask no questions.
	How you knew he was selling?
	Yeah, I mean, if I had to assume.
	Oh, man.
	At least you ain't no snitch.
	What about you?
	Everything.
	Oh, shit.
	What do you mean everything?
	Okay, I don't know.
	There was a guy you there was a guy that you were dating.
	Okay, here was like Cook, Molly, Ecstasy.
	Okay.
	Probably mushrooms.
	I don't know what.
	Sure, next question.
	Have any of you dated a man with a face tattoo?
	I have.
	So going around the table?
	Yes, and it was my name.
	It was your what?
	It was your name.
	And you left him?
	Watch!
	Who's the audio?
	Yes, I left him.
	Wait, have you dated multiple men with face tattoos?
	With your name on it.
	No, no, he was the only one.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Multiple.
	Oh, no, just one.
	Just one.
	Wait.
	Okay.
	Just do the math.
	Do the math.
	Just one.
	Just one.
	All right.
	No.
	Casually, like, been on dates with or like not the long-term relationship.
	How about three or more hangouts?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No.
	I thought your boyfriend had face tats.
	Got it removed.
	I could have sworn.
	I don't know.
	She just seemed, I don't know.
	All right.
	How about have any of you dated a guy who, while dating, he was wearing an ankle monitor?
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	I don't think while dating, but I have friends.
	A lot of enthusiasm on that one.
	I've had friends who've had to wear ankle monitors, but like I don't think anybody I've dated or while I was dating.
	Lily?
	No.
	Okay.
	Have any of you dated a guy who, while dating, was on probation or parole?
	Yes.
	Maybe.
	Which one?
	Probation.
	Yeah, for what kind of, was it a drug crime?
	Trapping.
	Trapping.
	What is trapping?
	Selling drugs.
	That's an Atlanta-based term.
	Trap drug dating.
	The drug area is called the trap.
	The trap.
	Like another word for drug house.
	Bando.
	So they call it the trap.
	So in Atlanta, they call it trapping and just cold.
	So everybody calls it trapping.
	I see.
	Okay, trapping.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You legal trapping right now.
	I see.
	Okay.
	No.
	Okay.
	What's the question again?
	It was the was on probation or parole.
	Have you dated a guy?
	Okay.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	Have any of you dated a man who has been okay?
	Fuck it.
	Convicted of a violent crime.
	Like a murder or that's obviously pretty extreme, a murder or assault and battery with grievous bodily injury.
	Been on a date?
	I have.
	Or date.
	I definitely have.
	Oh, yeah.
	I forgot.
	Yeah, you?
	I've been on a date, but it didn't last.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	I definitely don't.
	Have any of you dated a man who has murdered somebody?
	No.
	Okay.
	I don't think so.
	And then I guess final question on this, then we'll get back to the reaction here on Luigi.
	Do you guys think it's find it either attractive or turn on seeing a man be violent towards another man?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Depends what the situation is.
	Yeah, it depends on the situation.
	If he's fighting for me, think about something simple.
	Like he's a boxer or he's a UFC fighter.
	And he's, you know, he like he kicks the crap out of the opposition.
	You wouldn't find that attractive.
	Oh, yeah, that's good.
	I was thinking more so.
	Let's say the fight is justified.
	He's not just going around beating, bullying up on some, you know, he's not bullying people.
	But you see him, you're on a date with him, and let's say, I'm trying to think.
	It has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with you, but some guy starts mouthing off to him and he beats the fuck out of the guy and it's warranted.
	It's kind of warranted.
	Would you find this attractive or a turn on?
	No.
	I think I'll be a little more warranted.
	It's warranted.
	Defense.
	Let's say it's warranted.
	Like, how bad did he beat him up?
	He didn't stomp his head in when he's on the ground, but he knocked the guy out.
	Oh, okay.
	And then walked away.
	If this is like a one-hit cool, but if he has a whole fight and kills him or something, that's kind of crazy.
	That's great.
	That's crazy.
	Fair enough.
	So none of you would date Luigi.
	Okay.
	No.
	I know some people that would date him, though.
	Well, in any case, what's ended up happening is a lot, a lot of women online are like in love with him.
	And they were in love with him.
	One, because they thought he was attractive.
	That original CCTV footage that we saw where he's wearing the hoodie.
	It's kind of like this downward angle.
	Some women have since, now that they've seen his other photos, I guess they're a little less attracted to him now.
	But the second photos we just saw, yeah.
	No, I think he's still a good-looking guy, but a lot of girls, they were like, oh, the CCTV footage.
	I don't know, whatever.
	We have a couple things, a couple of the tweet TikToks that we can pull up.
	Of Luigi?
	Oh, dude, TikTok is scuffed.
	I don't know why I won't let this go full screen.
	Okay, yeah, go ahead, play it.
	So when you're being chased by a killer, but it's the United Healthcare CEO shooter, and then play it again.
	So she's like running away, but she's like, oh, it's Luigi, and then she's getting naked because she's going to want to fuck him.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Our hot CEO assassin turns out Luigi.
	He's 26 years old.
	He's an Ivy League grad.
	Did his undergrad and masters at Penn in Computer Science.
	It's my type.
	He's a little young for me, but baby, what is you doing?
	Getting caught eating at McDonald's.
	And curse you, McDonald's employee, for turning him in.
	But I get it.
	They upped the reward to 60,000.
	Maybe you needed that money.
	I never understood those crazy women that wrote inmates in jail, but I too kept doing that.
	On Hinge before, or the fact that I missed it.
	Hold on, start it from the beginning.
	I don't know what's worse.
	The fact that I matched with this man on Hinge before, or the fact that I would still smash.
	He is still hot.
	I'm going to say it.
	I don't care.
	Okay, next.
	And then, no, scroll up.
	Okay.
	I don't care free him.
	Okay.
	And I think.
	I think people are setting himself in jail.
	Probably.
	He's probably making bank right now.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	What's the panel's thoughts on this?
	I think the women are mentally ill.
	Okay.
	I think.
	Oh, wait, go ahead.
	Oh, well, I was thinking like these women are just being unserious.
	Yeah, I don't think they're from.
	Or they're joking.
	I believe it.
	Yeah, I do too.
	There could be some women who are joking around, but like I think a lot of the women kind of going to be writing him love letters, trying to get him to put money on his commissary.
	But historically, a lot of murderers had that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Jeffrey Dahmer had fans and stuff.
	We have something on that, but going around the table, I mean, any reactions?
	They're crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm not surprised, but I definitely don't agree.
	I don't, I'm not into them.
	All right, well, pull up the Wikipedia article, F11.
	So there's this term habristophilia.
	So it's a paraphilia involving sexual interest in and attraction to those who commit crimes.
	The term is make bigger, please.
	The term is derived from the Greek word, whatever the fuck that is, meaning to commit an outrage against someone.
	Many high-profile criminals, particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes, receive fan mail in prison that is sometimes amorous or sexual, presumably because of this phenomenon.
	While less common, the aggressive type of hybristophilia can occur in men with female serial killers, although they do state it's far less common.
	In some cases, admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison.
	And then scroll down a little bit.
	Causes.
	So these are some of the causes.
	Some believe they can change a man as cruel and powerful as a serial killer.
	Others see the little boy that the killer once was and seek to nurture him.
	A few hope to share in the media spotlight or get a book or movie deal.
	The notion of the perfect boyfriend, she knows where he is at all times.
	She knows he's thinking about her.
	While she can claim that someone, while she can claim that someone loves her, she does not have to endure the day-to-day issues involved in most relationships.
	There's no laundry to do, no cooking for him, no accountability to him.
	She can keep the fantasy charged up for a long time.
	Others offered reasons along the lines of some mental health experts have compared to fanaticism.
	They view such individuals and insecure people.
	Okay, scroll down, scroll down.
	There's some notable examples.
	So, okay.
	There it is.
	But none of you want to.
	Does it make sense?
	Yeah, some people don't want to deal with all that, but they still want to love her.
	And I think what is kind of interesting, though, obviously I don't think most women want to date serial murderers, right?
	Or like a murderer or an assassin.
	But I do think it is sort of like an indicator of like sort of a lower level like female psychology when it comes to attraction to not necessarily men who are murderers, but men who are the bad boy, the bad boy archetype.
	Much more women are attracted to this archetype.
	And so on a lower level, I find this interesting.
	And you don't really encounter this to the same degree in men.
	And so I wonder kind of why.
	Maybe, Andrew, you have some thoughts.
	Maybe, Eric, you do too.
	Absolutely.
	Andrew, you want to take it?
	Go ahead, man.
	I mean, that's a lot of reasons, but I think, you know, the media has a lot to do with it.
	Over the last 30, 20 years, I think the bad boy, I think women are always attracted to a guy with the edge.
	I think that's always been innate in women.
	They always look for the man that shows some type of dominance.
	But I think through the media, through music, through films, they have definitely Propelled the image of the criminal and made him look like the epitome of manhood to a lot of women, especially if you grow up in the inner city.
	So, a lot of times, women can't, you know, they don't accept that irrationality as bravado when it's really just the dude is a little slow.
	He doesn't know how to express himself through his thoughts and his mind, so he got to express it with violence.
	And when they meet a guy that's more articulate or know how to diffuse the situation more amicably, they might attribute him as being soft.
	Like, like I said earlier, like the type of men that women date often dictate how they view you as a man or lack thereof.
	So, I just think the media and just the mainstream culture has kind of clouded the mind of not just women being attracted to men, but I mean, being attracted to those type of men, but young men wanting to be those kind of men as well.
	So, I think it comes a lot comes from that.
	Yeah, I have a bit of a different take.
	I think that women like violence just as much as men do.
	I think they enjoy violence.
	I think that even when it comes to what they report, when it comes to sexual intercourse, they like it when men are rough with them.
	They like to be dominated.
	They like those forms.
	And so, I think that women enjoy violence.
	I think that they enjoy the power dynamic of violence.
	I think that because of that, there's an attraction.
	Rollo Tomasi talks about this.
	He calls it the dark triad traits.
	Whether or not that's true or not true, what is true is that men and women both really like violence.
	We're really drawn to violence.
	We enjoy watching it.
	We watch it.
	We watch action movies.
	We like suspense that has violence in it.
	If there's violence in society, we're enjoying it.
	And that's part of human nature.
	And so I think that women who enjoy powerful men and often enjoy being dominated by powerful men are attracted to those traits.
	I agree.
	I think you're right, Andrew.
	I believe women are darker than they let on, and they're darker than society tells us.
	And like, you don't know until you know.
	Like, women are definitely into a lot of dark.
	I never, most women I meet ask me to like be physical with them in certain ways when we're intimate.
	Like, they'll take my hand and put it on their neck.
	Well, what are the popular movies, bro?
	Like 50 Shades of Gray, right?
	Various things like this.
	If you look at The Handmaid's Tale, women report that they even have arousal watching The Handmaid's Tale, where the woman is forced into a subservient role as a pregnancy factory.
	So the thing is, is like, no, I don't really believe this kind of idea of the princess woman who is just a nice angelic being until a man comes along and corrupts her with his evil, violent, lunatic tendencies.
	No, I think the opposite.
	I think that women are just as prone to enjoy violence as men are.
	And in some ways, they enjoy it in a different way.
	Instead of being violent, in some ways, they enjoy domination that men do not enjoy from other men.
	So there's like a bunch of complexity here when it comes to the intersexual dynamics and violence.
	Remember that poll you pulled up a couple weeks ago confirmed all of that.
	I don't know if y'all seen it, but we looked up.
	Well, just look at the sexual fantasies that they have.
	They have sexual fantasies of being dominated, sexual fantasies of being SA'd.
	It's like it's insane.
	Like men don't have sexual fantasies of being SA'd.
	They just don't have them ever.
	But definitely that's high on the scale for a reported sexual fantasy for women.
	So I do think that they are attracted to this, and I think that it has to do with power.
	In many ways, it actually makes sense.
	A man who's extremely dangerous is probably a man who can really protect you very well.
	So you could be very good at verbal jousting, verbal combat, something like this, and maybe defuse situations like you're talking about.
	And perhaps there's some women who find that attractive.
	But also, let's just assume for a second that you can remove all of that.
	So you go, okay, yeah, this guy's really good at talking, but he can't talk when I break his fucking jaw, right?
	So the thing is, is like, ultimately, it does come down to the idea of violence.
	And I do think that there's an attraction level there for women.
	Absolutely.
	What you were about to say, you were about to say something?
	Oh, yeah.
	I said, I think it goes both ways.
	Like you guys stated earlier, that violence is a thing amongst humanity.
	Both men and women like it, like to watch it.
	Guys like watching UFC fights and things like that.
	And I think women, if we want to say like it, in men from our ways, is from like leadership and like aggression and like stance.
	Submit as like a feminine piece.
	I agree.
	I think, I don't know, TJ's own, but I think that people are drawn to competitive fervor.
	I think the love of violence is more societal induced than a natural thing.
	I don't think people just wake up and born to be drawn to violence.
	I think people are drawn to who's going to win this competition, who's going to win this argument.
	I think we're attracted to the spectacle of conflict.
	I don't think that being in love with violence is a natural inclination that we develop.
	I think the society that we live in, especially in America, has desensitized us to violence and increased our love for violence.
	I don't think that's a natural thing, in my opinion.
	Well, I think the historic standard would disagree with you.
	I mean, violence has always been a way of life for humanity, and it's been a necessity.
	Men need to, and here's the truth.
	Nobody likes to hear this, but the truth is, is that men have to kill each other.
	They have to kill each other over resources.
	They have to kill each other over women.
	They have to kill each other over children, over defense.
	And sometimes it's not even clear exactly who's right and who's wrong.
	But ultimately, it is a part of the nature of living that we used to have to kill for everything.
	We used to have to kill for our food.
	And we're actually remarkably displaced from violence and death.
	So for instance, you go to a funeral, the body's all prepared for you.
	People used to have to prepare the dead bodies of their kin themselves.
	You go to the grocery store and the meat is all packaged for you.
	You don't have to get into the violence of ripping an animal to pieces, quartering it, salting it so that you can have it later.
	In fact, I would say it's part of this desensitization to, or people used to be far more desensitized to violence than they are now.
	Now you say, well, the media kind of, they show you the John Wick movie and things like this.
	But I mean, that used to be actually a way of life for people that, you know, the chances that you got through life without hurting somebody else actually weren't very good.
	I hear you, but that's two different things.
	I think what you're talking about is a survival mechanism where you might have to kill to eat.
	That's one thing.
	Being attracted to witnessing the spectacle of violence is not the same thing.
	You don't need to do that.
	I don't need to watch people kill each other and beat each other up to survive.
	Now, I might have to beat.
	Hold on.
	I get what you're saying.
	Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
	I might have to beat somebody up to defend my family.
	I might have to kill an animal to feed my family.
	But the love of just watching violence for the sake of violence, I don't think that's natural.
	And I think those are two separate topics.
	I think the only thing in common is the act of violence.
	But watching violence and seeking it out to watch it for recreation and using violence to protect my life and livelihood are two different concepts.
	I think I have to give you a strong disagree.
	So I used to think something similar to this until I started to dive into the philosophy behind violence and the ideas behind it.
	And ultimately, the truth is, is that people don't have to get up in a tree stand anymore and shoot deer.
	They don't have to do that.
	For anywhere in North America, they do it because they really like to kill, right?
	We do like the process of the kill.
	We like the process of the hunt.
	We like the process of taking that down the game.
	We like the process of standing over it with our foot on it and then holding the head up and giving that predator roar, right?
	Men love that shit.
	Some men like that.
	Every man don't like that.
	They think that they don't, but they love getting in the boxing ring.
	They love jacking each other's job.
	Men will beat the holy shit out of each other and then help each other up and show them, the guy that they beat up, how to do it better next time.
	They'll get into an arena with each other, give each other concussions and shake each other's hands afterwards and thank the other guy for the pleasure of getting their own face kicked in.
	No, man, I staunchly disagree.
	I think that men enjoy the process of violence, that it's in many ways ingrained in us because it's necessary for the existence and survival of humanity.
	We've simply forgotten that.
	And so instead, we kind of say we demonize it in a way.
	We demonize rough play, rowdiness, men attacking each other, things like this.
	When it used to be very commonplace, I mean, it used to be commonplace when my dad was a kid in school that kids would kick the holy shit out of each other and the teachers would just come by and be like, all right, now that's enough of that.
	There wasn't suspensions and jail time and this and that.
	It was baked into the pie that men needed to sometimes take care of that, right?
	That's part of who we are and what we do.
	Now, do I think you should be enslaved to those passions?
	No.
	But do I understand why there's an enjoyment level to the hunt, an enjoyment level to the kill, why that would be necessary for humans to have that?
	Yeah.
	And so I understand why men and their propensity for violence is somewhat ingrained inside of us.
	Yeah.
	Oh, go ahead.
	Somebody's going to say something.
	Oh, if you got something to say.
	Oh, no, go ahead.
	I would say like modern time give on like letting out aggression.
	Yeah, but I think like now, compared to the hunt, it would be like sports.
	It'd be like we have like football.
	You guys tackle each other all day.
	Basketball, wrestling, which is a safer version of it that's more moderated.
	But I mean, kicking and like drawing blood from someone's quite crazy.
	Yeah, I like that.
	But see, that's the thing.
	The less moderated it is, though, the more people love it.
	So like, yeah, the UFC fight, the cage fight, yeah, that's great.
	But if you go to, people pay big bucks to go overseas to watch bare knuckle fighting where they don't have those rules, right?
	Where the violent overtone is even worse.
	People love, they love violence.
	And the thing is, is there's an ingratiation in men to enjoy the process of violence.
	It's actually ingrained in us for the purpose of survival.
	And I think that if you're in, you know, if you ever end up in like a World War I situation where you're in the trenches or something like this, you find out real quick your capacity for absolute savagery is way, way worse than you could ever have conceived of.
	And that's why a lot of those guys don't ever like talking about that.
	You know, these are kind of war heroes, things like this.
	It's not just the fact that they have to live with killing lots of people.
	It's the fact that they have to live with the internal understanding that they were capable of things that they could never have imagined they were capable of.
	No, I agree.
	I mean, I'm from Newark, New Jersey, so I've seen people get murdered all my life.
	So we're not scared of that.
	It's just that I think it's a huge difference.
	I think, first of all, I don't think every man thinks the same.
	I don't think every culture has the same natural instincts.
	I think some cultures historically understood the need for, I think, when you become a highly developed person.
	I know red pill men don't like the word spiritual and awareness.
	I know that's a taboo word, but I'm using it anyway.
	I think when you get to a certain level of enlightenment as a human being, you understand there's a time and place for everything.
	And I think an evolved person, regardless of race, realizes that violence has a purpose.
	It's not a way of life.
	I think you use violence when it's needed, when you need to defeat someone, when you need to kill something for survival.
	But I don't think every man throughout the whole planet from every race enjoys the act of just murderous acts.
	I don't think every man believes that.
	I think some cultures do.
	I don't think that's every culture.
	That's just my opinion.
	I think we're in the luxury of, we have this great luxury of civilization where we kind of, we're so displaced again for these things, like even basic death, not having to prepare the bodies of our own loved ones, things like we're completely displaced from the process.
	Because of that, it kind of screws our hardwiring up.
	But the truth is, is like, why wouldn't it be ingrained in you to enjoy the process of violence?
	If you had to kill animals to eat, right?
	Why wouldn't it be ingrained in you to enjoy that process?
	If you didn't enjoy the process, if you hated the process, it would actually go against your own survival mechanism.
	No, that's not true.
	That's not true, though, because there's cultures that before they kill an animal, they would take like, I'm going to use, thank you.
	They realize that this is a necessity.
	I don't even want to use this example, but I like, I'm going to use it because it's simple.
	Let's go to Lion King.
	He was talking to Simba and said, hey, he said, those are the antelope.
	He said, but dad, don't we eat the antelope?
	He said, yes, but it's all a part of the circle of life.
	It's a cycle.
	So it's one thing to praise violence, and it's another thing to understand violence is a necessity, but it's not a lifestyle.
	It's still a life that was given for us to live.
	So it's not what you do, it's how you do it.
	Just because I have to kill to eat, doesn't mean I enjoy to see the life go out of one of God's creatures.
	It's actually an interesting thing that you bring up.
	Like the Lion King, for instance, the Lion King is an attempt to replicate civilization.
	He's a king in a kingdom, in a civilization where there's rules, there's land, there's borders, there's honor, there's all this other constructed human stuff.
	But here's how it actually is with lions.
	They fucking kill everything that they don't like that looks at them cross-eyed and they tear them.
	Absolutely.
	They don't give a shit.
	They don't think twice about it.
	They absolutely play with their food, right?
	And sometimes they'll just kill for the sport of killing.
	They don't care.
	Absolutely.
	And the thing is, is that, again, what Disney did there was it anthropomorphized these animals into a human civilization, into a human cultural kingdom where there's all these rules in society and this and that.
	The truth is, though, lions absolutely enjoy the hunt.
	Humans absolutely enjoy the hunt.
	People absolutely enjoy the process of savagery and the process of violence because otherwise it would not be good for our survival.
	It just wouldn't be good for us, honestly.
	I don't think humans enjoy it.
	I think humans have been programmed to enjoy it.
	But the Lion King wasn't a documentary on lions.
	They were just using lions to portray a movie that affects people.
	So it wasn't like, it wasn't a nature doc.
	They were just using lions to explain a human story.
	Yeah, I understand.
	I'm just saying.
	Hold on, let me finish, bro.
	You interrupting me.
	It's based on really the Osirian drama, which is an ancient Egyptian story.
	Scar represented Seth.
	Mufasa represented Osiris.
	And I believe Simba represented Heiru.
	So it really had nothing to do with lions per se.
	They just was using lions to portray an ancient motif.
	So like I said, we all come from different backgrounds.
	We all come from different cultures historically and current.
	When we speak from our perspective and try to make it seem like that's everybody, I don't think that's a productive perspective.
	You can do it.
	Anybody can do it.
	I just wouldn't do it because I know that there's a time and most advanced people.
	Let's study the Asian community.
	Most, when you look at those monks, you look at those Shaolin monks, they will kill you with their bare hands, but they're some of the most peaceful people you can meet.
	They'll tell you that that discipline is not because we love violence.
	It's a discipline for a spiritual, more enlightened perspective to understand, to enhance one's personal growth and entune it with the world around them.
	They're not going around just beating the shit out of people when they're probably the most violent, probably the most well-equipped men for violence, but they don't walk around looking for that.
	So I don't believe that everybody just enjoys to see something bleed out.
	I think some cultures do, not everybody.
	And it's proven that.
	And the only reason why you see it so much today is because the dominant society, the culture that we live in that controls films, that controls these things, they try to keep this country at a low vibrational state because more problems creates more profit for people that benefit from problems.
	But I don't think people in their natural state get a hard on from seeing blood drip out of somebody's body.
	But some cultures do.
	Well, it's interesting that you bring up monks, for instance, because the idea of the warrior monk is as ancient as monkdom itself and that the process of enlightenment can't even happen in many of these forms of monkdom.
	For instance, Japanese monks who had a class of warrior monk.
	And same thing with China that has a class of warrior monk.
	They actually do not displace the idea that violence is innately enjoyable, only that these passions must be enslaved to work for you.
	Not that it's not enjoyable to kick the holy shit out of each other because clearly it is.
	Monks enjoy it.
	And why wouldn't they enjoy it?
	Boxers enjoy it.
	Warrior monks have always enjoyed it.
	The samurai enjoyed it.
	Templar Knights were a form of warrior monk.
	They also, inside of their own codes, talked about how violence is enjoyable for men, but how you had to enslave that passion.
	None of these people rejected violence as being enjoyable, only that you couldn't give yourself over to that enjoyment as a passion, because if you did, it would enslave you like any other passion would, like gluttony would, like greed would, like any of these different things.
	But that doesn't really make a good argument for you, I think, that violence is not something which men enjoy because it very clearly is something we enjoy, and the process of it is something we enjoy.
	Does that mean you become enslaved to it?
	No.
	Okay, but the fact you have to.
	I think it's disagreeable, though.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	No, no, go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	No, no, I'm finished.
	I'm finished.
	That's all I was going to say.
	No, but I hear you.
	And I respect it.
	But like I said, the fact that they have to temper it shows you that it's something that shouldn't take over you.
	A lot of us have natural, we humans.
	We got a lot of dark sides, but that doesn't mean it's supposed to take over you.
	A lot of people like to have sex all the time.
	Is that cool?
	You know what I'm saying?
	So you have the passion that we need to be.
	Yeah, right.
	But we would agree they like to have sex, right?
	So the thing is, is like, that's what's in dispute.
	What's in dispute is not whether or not you should enslave yourself to the passion of violence or you should enslave yourself to the passion of sex.
	What's in kind of what the argument here is, is whether or not men, the capacity of men is to enjoy violence itself.
	And it very clearly is.
	And that's what my point is, is that it very clearly is so, that men enjoy the process of violence.
	They enjoy the process of the hunt.
	They enjoy the process of the kill.
	They enjoy those things because it innately assists them with survival mechanisms.
	And it innately assists women in survival mechanisms to note that the man who's really good at violence probably can give them maximum amounts of resources because why?
	They can take shit from other men with violence, right?
	So there's many reasons why these intersexual dynamics around violence are really important.
	I just think that the process of it's very clear that men enjoy violence and women too.
	Okay.
	Okay, so what I have to say is I've recently, over the past like 10 weeks, I've gotten into Krav Magaw, which is based, it's Israeli.
	Yeah, it's an Israeli martial arts.
	Yes, and it's based off of defending yourself in real world events rather than like martial arts fighting in a cage or something like that.
	And there is something that's even invigorating and that I love about it.
	The fact that I know if someone came and attacked me, that I could likely handle myself.
	Well, hold on.
	And like, so to me, that's like a child.
	I'm 4'9.
	I'm 4'10.
	How much do you weigh?
	Like 100 pounds.
	When you say you could handle somebody who, like, you're talking about like a woman.
	I can pick up a 180-pound man and throw him on his back.
	Yeah.
	I swear to you.
	I can take a knife from a guy.
	I can take a gun from a guy.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so I mean, maybe this it might help you against a woman of like similar size or a really, really small, weak man.
	A 180-pound man, even if he's untrained, I don't care how good your cross magazine is, you're fucked.
	But that's the thing.
	That's the thing.
	You get that guy on the ground, right?
	You knock him on the ground, and then you either bail out of there because that's safest.
	You think you can here.
	Wait, Morgan, you want to be?
	I know, I don't want to hurt anybody.
	Oh, she doesn't want to hurt anybody.
	I'll do it though.
	It'll hurt.
	You want, I'll tell you right now, that gentleman who's in the room with you right now could hold you down.
	He could hold you down on the ground with one hand while still enjoying a hot bowl of soup, and there isn't a fucking thing on earth you could do.
	But there is tactical moves.
	There is tactical moves where you can get out of things and then bail.
	And that's the whole point.
	I think is get out tactical.
	I appreciate your confidence, but I think that a lot of hypotheticals got to happen for you to even get him in that position.
	Because not to be funny, but you're small.
	So if a man hits you hard enough, it's a rap.
	Like, you're not going to have a chance to even get to all that because of the initial force that he can use.
	Like, you're smaller.
	I could literally just pick you up like this.
	So it's like, you probably can do it if you catch me in a position where I'm kind of like in a vulnerable position.
	But if I have to, if a man got to square it with you.
	Well, hold on.
	Let's try it.
	I'm not.
	Well, here's the proposal.
	Here's the proposal.
	We'll give her the best position.
	We'll let you sink in a rear naked chokehold on Eric.
	Who's Eric?
	Right.
	Hello.
	I didn't know his name was Eric.
	Hello, Eric.
	I'm Winters.
	What's going on?
	So you have.
	You want to grapple?
	So, so, no, it'll be right here.
	So here's the proposal.
	You said you can have he's giving you the best position.
	You have him in a rear naked choke.
	You have his back.
	You have his neck.
	Do you think he'll be able to escape from your chokehold?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Wait.
	What?
	So even with if he knows how he seems like he seems like he can do that.
	Have you done Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?
	He has no training.
	He's got zero training.
	He didn't even have to do that.
	He's not a fighter flight.
	He didn't even take a karate class in fucking when he was seven.
	I don't know.
	Have you ever been in a fight?
	Of course.
	All right.
	I haven't learned that yet, but I'm willing to give it a shot.
	I'll do it.
	You're trained to do that, though.
	Do you want to do it?
	I mean, you could try.
	Go ahead.
	I'll sit here.
	Go ahead.
	Don't choke me, though.
	She's going to put you in the chokehold.
	I mean, I don't think she's going to choke.
	I haven't done this kind before, but I'm going to try to get the leverage.
	Don't hurt him.
	Don't hurt him.
	Don't knock him out.
	All right.
	Okay, so you want to like palm it differently?
	Don't put your thumb like that.
	Palm it.
	Otherwise, you're going to hurt your thumb.
	So I'm going to get you.
	Is this allowed?
	What the?
	No, you can't do it.
	You too little.
	Oh.
	Careful.
	You too little.
	I got it.
	It's over.
	It's over.
	Let it go.
	Kick him in the face.
	Relax.
	Or the balls.
	No, don't kick him with the ball.
	Don't kick him in the ball.
	You can't do it.
	Stop.
	What are you doing?
	No, you fucking stop.
	It ain't over until it's over.
	You're not lying.
	What the f.
	I could have killed it.
	And you hit me in my.
	You hit me on my shit.
	I mean, in real life, I fucking did.
	What the?
	Your first Krag McGahl lesson was just free.
	Congratulations.
	Kicked me in my shit.
	Bro, what the flip is.
	I didn't know she was going to do all that.
	Was that the lesson?
	I don't know, but you told me that you're going to be able to get fucking kicked me in my shit.
	I don't know what made you do that because I was just playing with you.
	Like, you really kicked me about balls.
	I totally fucked up.
	I apologize, but you told me.
	You said I kind of.
	Don't choke me.
	I gave you a chance, but even with all that shit, you would have got killed right there, Shorty.
	You had no power.
	And you hit me in my most sensitive reason.
	Which one is it?
	Do you want her to put all of that?
	No, I don't.
	Don't hurt me.
	I want to show me.
	We're going all the way not going all the way.
	She did too much, man.
	But she still didn't do it, though.
	Doing too much, but not doing nothing.
	Yeah, if you're sparring with somebody, you don't hit them in the kick me in my shit hard as hell.
	Pretty scummy.
	What the fuck is wrong?
	Pretty scummy.
	Yeah, well, evade and escape.
	You didn't escape.
	You was one of those.
	Because you told me it stopped.
	Like, just to understand.
	The second he stood up, right?
	He looked like a baby doll in his head.
	Well, yeah, I haven't learned that.
	If he had wanted to, and listen, I promise.
	If he had wanted to, he could have peeled you off and thrown you across the room with so much force as to have your soul have left your body instantly.
	Sorry about that.
	Not killing you.
	You owe me that shit.
	She kicked me in the thigh, bro.
	Hard as hell, too.
	And I ate that shit.
	So imagine if I just imagine if I really wanted to fight you.
	Like, imagine if I really would have swung.
	You would have been done.
	I don't even talk like that.
	I got a dude.
	I got a mother.
	I don't believe in violence.
	I don't believe in hitting young women and ladies.
	You don't do none of that shit.
	I thought this was an exhibition, but you kicked me in my shit.
	Like, if I really wanted to hurt you, you wouldn't have made it out of that room.
	I'm talking about.
	Nobody in here would have been able to save you either.
	What the?
	You almost got a hammer fist to the face, too.
	They stopped you.
	Did you hear that?
	You almost caught a hammer fist to the face.
	But they stopped me.
	Yeah.
	What if I would have reacted a little bit?
	I didn't do nothing, but just get you off me.
	With all that Cro-Magnum, whatever the fuck you was talking about, you was on your back.
	Why didn't you react?
	Because you're a woman and you're this big.
	You're the size of the shit.
	Andrew, let's get you in on this.
	We know you love this one about men and women.
	You seen that.
	Andrew, you've seen it.
	If I wanted to hurt her, could she have done anything based on the position I had her in?
	But what do you think?
	Would it have been okay for her?
	That's why he's laughing at me.
	You could have got destroyed, bro.
	Just so you know, I need to dispel this delusion.
	I'm going to tell you what happened.
	I just watched the whole thing.
	Okay.
	What happened is you used your force for a perfect position, rear-naked choke.
	Okay.
	If I had that position on Brian, for instance, I could choke Brian out in seconds.
	Okay.
	And most men could, by the way, if they had that perfect position.
	Yeah, if you were.
	What happened is you had the perfect position.
	He lifted you up off the ground and he stood up as easily as if he was picking up a small McDonald's happy meal.
	Okay.
	He peeled you off of him and your arm strength was so insufficient that he was able to turn your entire body so you were in the front of him.
	Had he wanted to, right then and there, right?
	Using no punches, kicks, anything, okay?
	He could have just grabbed your body, thrown you as hard as he felt like at the wall, and that would have been the end of you.
	You need to understand strength differentials.
	Strength differentials are huge between men and women.
	Your Krov McGaw only did you as much service as he allowed it to do for you, which was he was very kind, very nice.
	He just basically peeled you off of him lightly and put you down so that he has to make sure that you were in no way, in no capacity harmed or hurt.
	He was very gentle, very nice.
	Right?
	He was very gentle.
	He couldn't wear a cup on the one every podcast.
	I see what you're saying.
	I am under no delusion that I can take on Conan the barbarian, you know?
	But there is tactical moves.
	Like once it comes to the ground, there's tactical moves.
	No, no, no, no.
	Where you can escape.
	You would have got killed in his.
	If he got you on the ground, no you're done.
	So she stabbed him while he was on the ground or like kicks him in the balls like she was.
	She actually hold him and then changed.
	Was that full force?
	I don't think that was full force.
	It was not.
	No, this guy was 20%.
	And I wasn't 100%.
	That was jumping up.
	I didn't use anything.
	I didn't lose anything.
	You used your best shit.
	What if I really, what if I would have gotten mad?
	No, I'm saying, I'm saying evade and slamming through that wall.
	Hold on.
	You would have went through that.
	One sec.
	One second to make $100.
	Now this is entertainment.
	A 90-pound crackhead trying to choke out a man in LeMount.
	Oh, wait, wait, we got something else coming.
	Yo, Metro Matt, thank you, man.
	Hey.
	You did get, we're about to get a little treat, though, because not a little treat from our good friends.
	Champagne towel?
	It's champagne.
	Listen, I need a grand.
	Can you get it?
	Can you get it?
	Can you sport the point?
	You can ice his balls.
	Yeah, can you get some bears?
	I do some credit.
	What?
	A midget of some shit?
	One second.
	You a fucking woman, but not no six.
	Champagne.
	Thanks for that.
	Yo, W is, yo, guys.
	W's in the chat for Eric.
	W's in the chat for Eric.
	This guy, W Eric.
	W, Eric.
	W, Eric.
	Man, listen.
	W, Eric in the chat.
	I got to do some champagne, man.
	I got champagne with you.
	I got to get kicked in the balls to get some champagne around here.
	This guy's going to lose a testicle for the whatever podcast.
	Kill Jill over here, man.
	Kill Jill.
	Kill Jill.
	Look at that.
	Paper towel.
	But you got tenacity.
	I give you that.
	You got some tenacity.
	She's tenacious.
	She's like her confidence.
	Get a night in a gun.
	All right, boys.
	Can we get something?
	Actually, we got cups here.
	We're going to.
	That was very, very disappointing.
	He didn't shake it or not.
	It's really funny, too.
	Brian, do you note that when Eric stood up, he stood up very carefully in such a way as to not hurt anybody?
	He repositioned her in such a way to not hurt her, to put her down so that she didn't get hurt.
	He was very, very gentle.
	Let me tell you how this would actually work.
	If I grabbed Eric behind and tried to put him in a chokehold, he'd throw his head back, bash my nose in, right?
	And then we would be fist fighting all over the room, and it would go very badly for one of us, right?
	Probably me, because he's much larger than me.
	The point is, is that he was very gentle.
	Very gently, very gently stood up.
	Very gently.
	He's got a dance.
	Very gently put you down.
	It's very kind of Eric.
	He was at like his power level was like 10%.
	I've been trading for like nine weeks, man.
	She's new.
	I do not know.
	I'm brand new.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I never trade.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	I just got busy.
	But you're a man.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	No, Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I don't care if you're the best Krav Magaw, the number one Krav Maga.
	You got your black bell and Krav Magaw in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in boxing.
	And Eric here, maybe he has a white belt in karate from when he was seven.
	He's still killing you within 30 seconds.
	I don't like he's bigger than you, and he's a man, and he's stronger than you.
	So if you, if you, because you gotta think, right?
	When you, if this is a real fight, somebody gets on my back like that.
	I'll sound.
	I would have just got up and shoved myself backwards, slamming you into whatever behind me.
	So that happened.
	So it would have been ugly.
	That's it.
	Oh, pass the bottle down.
	Very, very gentle.
	That's why it's like that wasn't really a real world scenario, you know?
	So I feel like it was very gentle.
	I feel like it was very difficult.
	I don't feel like she didn't hurt.
	That shit hurts.
	That's crazy, man.
	Absolutely crazy.
	Ridiculous.
	My boy could take a shot, though.
	He took a shot, man.
	He took a mean one.
	Oh, okay.
	Pass that one down for me.
	Wait, what?
	So, Mui, thank you so much for the champagne pop.
	W's in the chat for, I don't know if I'm saying your thing right.
	It's M-U-I-Y-E-2.
	I'll just call you two.
	So thank you for that, man.
	Really appreciate the champ.
	We desperately needed a champagne pop, especially after Eric.
	He needs a little, he needs this to dull the pain.
	Fuck that.
	He needs alcohol to dull the pain.
	And then this is going to.
	Cheers, buddy.
	Hold on.
	You're not the fucking host.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	God.
	Sorry.
	Steal my fucking cheers.
	She juiced up now.
	Stealing my shit, bruv.
	Okay.
	Who has the alcohol?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cheers to Mui for the champagne pop and also cheers.
	Cheers to Mui.
	Stop.
	Oh, my God.
	Cheers to Eric Spalls.
	Okay.
	Salu.
	Yo, funny.
	You need that nice pack or anything?
	Are they going to?
	I'm straight, man.
	We good.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, let's read a couple chats here.
	The couple chats came through.
	Actually, wait, no, we still need to talk about the whole 100-pound 4-9.
	It's 410.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	My bad.
	410.
	410.
	Excuse me.
	Wait, so do you think you could like fuck up?
	What percentage of men do you think you could fuck up in like a 1v1 fight?
	Well, it depends on what it was, right?
	Like, okay, best case scenario, what percentage of men do I think that I could fuck up?
	With your Krav McGaw skills.
	Even if I got even way better with Krav Magaw, black belt as Krav Magaw, 10% of men.
	Sounds a little more reasonable, I guess.
	I think you'll beat a girl up, though.
	I think a chick gonna have to have a long day with you.
	I mean, you got two girls right now.
	Any girls here you guys?
	Nah, I would never, unless they wanted to.
	No, only if they want to.
	But she will kick you in the pussy.
	Okay.
	No, I won't.
	I mean, that's different.
	Does that hurt to y'all?
	It hurts.
	Yeah.
	The tit hurts more.
	The tit?
	Getting punched into tit?
	You've been punched into titty before?
	Yeah.
	It hurts for like a while.
	Yeah.
	It was so long ago.
	Both titties.
	It was like play fighting and like it just went left and boom.
	I got hit kind of hard.
	Bob Man?
	No, no, no.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	It's play fight away.
	Another girl.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Was it an uppercut or like a jab?
	It was more like a jab.
	Yeah.
	It kind of like hit the bottom.
	Does that feel like it's a little bit more?
	So it feels like there's this meat.
	And that meat hurts.
	A titty uppercut.
	Oh, Jesus, no.
	I feel like that's going to hurt.
	I probably wouldn't hurt the paper.
	Was that like a catch stuff with my boobs?
	Depends how old the chick is, right?
	Because it's like the boobs are going to be.
	It's a part of the boob that's very, very sensitive.
	And I feel like the bottom, it's not the bottom.
	It's more.
	It's the size.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So like a hook.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You know, a hook.
	It hurts a lot more.
	I see.
	Yeah.
	It does.
	There should be like a boob boxing class where the box is.
	You're just punching the shit out of a giant woman shot.
	BBC?
	I could kick it.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	I mean, not current crushed.
	It was like a woman.
	So it's a little bit.
	Anissa, do you want to go next?
	I'm okay.
	Anissa.
	Okay, okay.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	Ladies, can we get a round of applause real quick for Eric for being a good scorer?
	He's a super good scorer.
	Good score.
	Good score.
	I apologize sincerely.
	Thank you.
	I sincerely apologize.
	What happened there is like even when we said because she kept going when you said like chill, chill.
	Y'all heard me say that was assault.
	I said chill real loud.
	Like I got it.
	It's over.
	I told her to stop back there.
	Yeah, you got caught up in the middle.
	I got a little bit caught up.
	I saw red, dude.
	I know red.
	She saw a red hat.
	She saw red.
	She saw red.
	You weren't doing shit.
	Do you think there was like a racism component?
	Oh, come on.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	It fell.
	I know.
	She kind of has a southern accent.
	I feel like there could have been like a racism.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, no, no, no, no.
	I'm just saying.
	You know what I mean?
	Okay.
	All right.
	She went red.
	She didn't back out for me.
	I don't know.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	It was a little bit of what I would consider excessive force, you know, as a case.
	Like, there could have been this element.
	Was I assaulted?
	Was I just assaulted?
	I think you might have been.
	Yeah.
	Have I been me too?
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Well, you wouldn't be the first one to be a little bit more.
	Oh, shit.
	I think you were definitely like if I was just a woman in rage and that wasn't like that was like some 35 years of pain.
	Then like you would have that would have been a different outcome.
	You know what?
	I think what just happened?
	What happened?
	I think that celibacy kick kicked in just now when she was whooping my trying to whoop my ass.
	That's right.
	I had my leg around your neck.
	I think it's time to get them cobwebs cleared out.
	You just kicked the fuck out of the shit.
	Yeah, that's what I was about.
	Yeah, I think you backed up.
	I think she's your pipes cleaned up.
	She got too excited.
	Like, that shit was crazy.
	That's good.
	Only on whatever, man.
	Watch out, Mike, kicking the balls.
	You know what, though?
	I do think.
	Never mind.
	Okay, whatever.
	All right, we have, I'm going to let a couple chats come through.
	We have Derek.
	Can you read this, Morgan?
	Can you see it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Lily finger banged a chick on live stream on the fish tank live reality show, then kissed a guy contestant.
	Is this true?
	That's not true, but the second part is true.
	The first part, why would they lie about the first part?
	I don't know.
	You don't?
	It's not true, though.
	Really?
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	Rachel's looking it up.
	Brian, Reach, she's looking it up.
	Give us the intel.
	Give us the intel.
	What is what is it?
	That's like a live streaming show or something?
	Yeah, it's on live stream show.
	It's basically like a competition.
	It was a competition.
	That's Sam Hyde, right?
	Yeah, it's with Sam Hyde.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so basically they have TTS too, and like people will send chats, and it'll just play in the speaker.
	So it's like drama-based.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	That's kind of, that's cool.
	Rock and roll.
	I don't know.
	So you made out with the dude?
	He made that with me.
	What is so his non-consent?
	Okay, no.
	We made that with each other, but he kissed me first.
	I don't know what that means, but so was he was another person in the house or whatever.
	Okay.
	What show is this?
	It's called Fish Tank Live.
	It's a YouTube show, Twitch.
	It's a live stream.
	Okay.
	That's all you did, though, is just make out?
	Yeah.
	Was it like because of a TTS or like you liked him?
	No comment.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	Eric, can I ask you a question?
	What's up?
	If like all that's on the table with a girl is just a makeout, would you rather just not make out?
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah, me, yeah.
	It depends on if I, yeah, unless I'm getting paid for the shit or something.
	But no, no, I can't just kiss.
	Once I kiss, you got something else gonna happen.
	I'd rather just not.
	Like if a girl.
	Yeah, I'd rather just oh, you just want you just wanted to.
	No, no, let me give context.
	If we're dating and we like second date or whatever, first date, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
	I could kiss you and that's nothing because we're going to keep hanging out.
	But if it's like, God forbid, a one-night stand and we just left the club, I'm not about to kiss you.
	Like, it's about to go somewhere else.
	I mean, it happens to have sex with her.
	If I know that's all we're doing.
	Because what the fuck is we doing?
	How are you going to know if it's a one-night stand?
	I mean, you don't, I mean, because I don't know too many women who meet a guy the first night, go to his house and become husband and wife after that.
	Can it happen?
	It can happen, but is it likely?
	No, because I don't even know if I want to wife somebody that I met at the club and took home and laid down.
	Do I really want to do that?
	Wife her?
	Because how many other dudes you did that with?
	How many other girls you did that with?
	I mean, we ain't talking about, I mean, it's different for men.
	We had this conversation before.
	I don't think it's the same.
	Now, I think there's, I don't think a man should just be with anybody, so I get it.
	But I don't think a man being with multiple women is the same as, no, we ain't getting ahead of ourselves.
	But I don't think it's the same thing.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because it doesn't take a skill for you to be with mad men.
	Like, you're pretty.
	I'm sure if you can go to a random guy and say, hey, you want to sleep with me?
	He'll be like, sure.
	We can't do that.
	So we have to have personality.
	We got to know how to talk.
	You got to know how to dress, charisma.
	It takes a little skill set to get women to have sex with you.
	A woman just got to show up and it's pretty much going down.
	I feel like it depends on what the guy looks like, too.
	Because some girls would just throw the coochie at a dude just because he's really, really fine and attractive and handsome or has men.
	So like what, 5% of men?
	Whereas like 50% of women could be super giga sluts.
	She's right, but that's a rare, that's a small group of men.
	Small group.
	And most women who go after men strictly for that, in my opinion, they like kind of hoes for real.
	They just got a reason to be a hoe.
	Because women, a lot of women like to be hoes.
	I'm going to keep it a buck.
	A lot of women, it seems like today, women who are wives have the illusions of being whores.
	It's like they're jealous of whores.
	Like, I wish men looked at me like, oh, he had how you like a whore.
	It's like, you want somebody wife and a mother.
	Like, you're kept.
	Why you want to be a hoe?
	So I think women, a lot of women secretly want to be someone's sexual object.
	It's just that if he has money, it justifies that option more so than a dude that's broke.
	So in other words, you want to be a hoe for all these dudes, but if you're a hoe for a broke dude, you look goofy.
	But if you're a hoe for a dude with money, it looks like a come up.
	But you still a hoe.
	Or you could be a hoe for a dude that's attractive.
	Word?
	That's cool.
	You can be a hoe for your dude.
	So you wouldn't kiss anyone unless you're going to have sex with them.
	I mean, if it's like for some game show or some shit, like I don't just kiss women I'm not kicking it with.
	Like I don't just have friends.
	They say, you want to kiss?
	Like I'm dating them.
	We already done dead shit.
	So I never was in a situation where we just kissed to try it out.
	Like maybe some middle school little fourth grade sending notes shit.
	Like I'm 39 years old.
	Like if I'm in a position of kissing somebody, we done kicked it already.
	So I'm going to want to crack.
	How about this one, Eric?
	Maybe this is going to be a bit more.
	This can turn me on.
	I'm sorry.
	This could be a bit more palatable maybe for the panel.
	Because maybe a bit more realistic, right?
	Maybe they can see, well, making out, whatever.
	That's, you know, fine.
	Maybe they could just do make out.
	But like, if I'm hanging out with a girl, maybe it's the like first time, second, whatever.
	We're just hanging out.
	We haven't hooked up yet.
	And like, she says no to sex, but a hand job's on the table.
	Hold up, I just met her.
	This is the first date.
	First date, second date, third date, whatever.
	We haven't hooked up.
	Give me a date, exactly.
	So I can give you my full context.
	Because it matters.
	Third date, second date, it doesn't all matter, ladies.
	It's all the difference, right?
	Between first date, second date, and third date.
	Do y'all think it's a difference between the degree of where you.
	Okay, third date.
	Let's go.
	Third date and whatever.
	We're making out.
	And then, like, trying to move things forward.
	She's like, no, you're like, totally cool.
	But a hand job's on the table.
	I'd rather just not get the hand drop.
	Yeah, me neither.
	I don't like to play sex.
	I could do that.
	I don't want you to do nothing I can do for myself.
	I can give myself a hand job, so I don't need you for that.
	I need to do something I can't do for myself.
	And you know what that is.
	If we're gonna play that game, like I don't like playing that game, we ain't gonna fuck around, just chill.
	But don't start touching on me and all that shit like I'm mad wrong.
	Even a girl you've already hooked up with, and I don't know, she's like on her period or whatever, whatever it is.
	She's like, I guess I could give you a hand job.
	I'll just be like, nah, I'm okay.
	I'm good.
	When she's on her period, I think you gotta, you know, beggars can't be choosy.
	You know, you gotta take something.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I'd rather take some heads.
	But a hand job.
	Hand job.
	That's like some DDH shit.
	Nah, fuck that shit.
	They're so worn out by it with their own hands.
	What would y'all rather do?
	Do y'all want a hand job or you want some, you know, fleshy, flashy?
	Yeah, but they, like, girls, chill.
	I would rather head.
	Exactly, Z.
	Oh, well, yeah, between that.
	Yeah.
	That's the hand job for them.
	Fingering is a hand job for a woman and jerking us.
	I don't hate to get graphic, but that's technically.
	Wait, do you do that, though?
	What?
	Let girls jerk me off?
	No, no, give hand.
	Bro, hold on, bro.
	Wait, what?
	That's a simple question.
	He ain't got to be a little bit more.
	Yes or no?
	If I'm into you, I'm down for whatever.
	I'm just ain't playing with your butt, and I ain't playing with your feet.
	But if you're my girl, yeah, I'm going to bless you.
	You got to bless me, though.
	It's a two-way street.
	This ain't no one-way.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I got to be really into you, though.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'm going to get a lot of fewer.
	Do y'all?
	I'm sorry.
	Mutual stream.
	But that's like after you've been with somebody.
	It's a comforting thing.
	Wait, what?
	You know each other.
	Oh, second to history.
	You guys know.
	Do you do that, Brian?
	Are you a deep sea diver?
	Deep sea diver.
	He's not.
	Look, I'm a fan of baby.
	You said BLO.
	You got a whole vision.
	Yeah, look, I'm a fan of large labia, but yeah, I don't do that.
	You don't eat coochie?
	I don't do that.
	You never have?
	Crazy.
	The last time I did it was during the Bush administration.
	Oh, so you have done it?
	A couple times.
	And why don't you go to the business?
	I did it a couple times.
	2007, I think, was the last time I was.
	He knows the date.
	Yeah, it was July 4th.
	It was Independence Day.
	And I became independent of eating pussy.
	I grew up around some wild cats, man.
	But ate pussy?
	What?
	He did everything.
	Man, I'm from the mean streets of Jersey.
	You didn't tell us.
	Are you in a relationship?
	He did everything.
	Are you in a relationship?
	Hold on, lady.
	Techno Trooper donated $200.
	Ladies, do men need to step up more or should women lower their standards here at Techno.
	Solutions.
	Techno, we'll come right back to it just so I finish this up.
	What was the question?
	Sorry.
	I said, are you in a relationship or you?
	I don't disclose my relationship status, but I've had multiple long-term relationships.
	Yeah.
	Can't get caught up.
	You got multiple relationships.
	I don't speak weed talks.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Can't get caught up.
	Can you guys?
	I actually don't know what that means.
	Can you guys speak English, please?
	I'm sorry.
	Can't get caught up.
	That's pretty.
	That means you don't want to get caught if you got other girls.
	If you deal with multiple people, you don't want to get caught up.
	No, that was a PR answer.
	Like a PR answer.
	Yeah, that was a PR answer.
	I should have answered that when you asked me.
	No, I have a really popular podcast on stalkers and death threats.
	So that's why.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm going to take that same approach.
	So don't ask me that.
	Yeah, don't worry.
	Yeah.
	So that guy's comment, though, what he said.
	Oh, I was going to bring that up earlier on like his about standards and stuff.
	And I forgot what you said, like word for word, but it was the same thing too.
	On like what?
	He says, do you have to say that?
	He was like to lower women's standards.
	And I'm like, no, men just have low standards sometimes.
	Well, here, let me play.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Yeah.
	We'll let everybody answer.
	Techno Trooper donated $200.
	Ladies, do men need to step up more or should women lower their standards?
	Hash solutions.
	Okay, starting with you, go ahead.
	Men should step up more.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah, they definitely need to step up more.
	I feel like me from my experience, men should step up more.
	I mean, we can definitely meet in the middle, like, you know, y'all step up and we, wait, wait.
	Y'all step up and they'll maybe be like, okay, like, you know, you're meeting somewhere.
	Maybe.
	But in my experience, as of right now, men need to step the fuck up.
	Sorry.
	Okay.
	I'm doing way too much out here.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Do I get to answer that?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	I think men need to step up the standards they set for themselves.
	And I think women need to lower their standards all around the board.
	Definitely.
	I think men need to stop stepping up for a woman, step up for itself.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, get your shit together for you, not because you're trying to get her and get, like, you should just make a lifestyle of just being the best you can be.
	I don't think you should do it for a woman.
	And I think women definitely need to come down off their high horse.
	I think y'all is like way, way in the clouds when it comes to shit.
	Yep.
	Yeah, I think there's this term that's being used called hoflation.
	And essentially, women are demanding more than they have ever demanded, and they bring less than they've ever brought.
	You're the most promiscuous.
	You're the least modest.
	You're the most involved in sex work.
	You're the most degenerate.
	But you expect, I want a guy this tall who makes this much money, who's this attractive, who has this much charisma, who's bringing all this to the table.
	You still want the traditional treatment.
	None of y'all are traditional anymore.
	It's just crazy.
	And because of your guys' exposure to social media and dating apps, because you can be an average girl and be dealing with an NBA player, an NFL player, a famous rapper, a famous musician, professional athlete, actors, whatever, and be an average chick.
	You think because you can sleep with some NFL, some baller, whatever, one, two, three times, that that's your league?
	That's not your league.
	Your league as women is the men that give you commitment.
	And the men that are willing to give you commitment, you're ignoring them in your 20s so you can go fuck all these other dudes who will never give you commitment.
	That's the reality.
	How do you not know the football player is given commitment and they're they're up there too and that's just sure wait, what do you mean?
	Like you're saying the person that is in your role and in your league is who's committing to you.
	What if the NFL football player, that person is committing to everybody?
	What do you mean?
	Like, so you're saying for me, my league is whoever's willing to commit to me.
	Well, look, if your league happens to be that you're an NFL player.
	I suppose that would be your league.
	Like, I think it's not.
	There's plenty of women out there.
	Yeah.
	Plenty.
	Yes, plenty of people.
	Do you know how many NFL players there are?
	It's like less than 0.001 of the population.
	But still it's a lot.
	And a racing player.
	No, there's a lot of what?
	There's not a lot of professional NFL players.
	NFL football.
	I feel like it's a lot of professional athletes.
	How many NFLs are there?
	Okay, we're comparing it to the large scale of men in the world.
	Okay, cool, but I'm not talking about comparing it to the general population.
	I'm saying there's a lot.
	There's 17.
	There's 1,700, 1,700 active players in the NFL.
	You think that's a lot?
	Are they all in the U.S.?
	How many single women in the U.S. are there?
	A lot more than that.
	Okay.
	Millions.
	But not all the single women want an NFL.
	Sure.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	They want a traditional man.
	There's only women that don't want to put themselves in that scenario to be set up with God's money.
	What percentage of women, if they had the chance with an NFL athlete for actual commitment, you think like wouldn't take it?
	Just to be clear, NFL players, professional athletes, they make good money.
	Typically, they're in really good physical shape.
	They're like NFL.
	That's like pretty much the highest status sport that you can play in the United States.
	Maybe basketball is kind of, I don't know.
	I don't know what.
	They make more money than basketball, than football players, but football got the.
	I think it has a bit more status, but I feel like it's just like 30 to 40% of women that wouldn't.
	I would say 70, 80, maybe even 90%.
	That wouldn't?
	That would or wouldn't.
	That would.
	Yes.
	Okay, I'm saying wouldn't.
	I wouldn't.
	So you think most women would, right?
	Yes, I do think most women would, but I feel like there's still a large amount.
	Not a large.
	I still like, I feel like there's definitely still women that wouldn't.
	But not everybody wants to sign up for that.
	That's true.
	But the fact that you initially said that you felt like it's a lot of them, because that's probably the type of guys you're used to probably dealing with.
	No, no, no.
	No, I'm not saying nothing wrong with that.
	I mean, if you attract dudes that get bred, that's you.
	But I'm saying that a lot of women think that way where they try to magnify this minority of men and make it seem like, no, it's a lot of those guys.
	It's not a lot.
	It's just that that's all women want.
	That's true.
	And also, for NBA players, there's about 550 players total.
	Huh?
	That's less than a school.
	For NBA.
	For active?
	Active.
	Well, yeah, active players.
	So I guess there's retired players too.
	So that means you're right.
	Men should step up their league.
	Because it should be like the ratios one man to 10 to 5 women.
	And I think I think men are coming.
	Men are hairy.
	And that's what the problem is.
	Y'all guys don't know your worth.
	We know our worth.
	We know our worth.
	Why should we lower our standards?
	Because we have so many more options.
	You have more.
	You have less options than men.
	It's just that women who are attractive are under the illusion of more options because you're attractive for a certain period of time and you're young.
	But the older you get, you're going to realize you don't have as many options as you think.
	Since it's less men than women, who got to be proven to who?
	Because even a dude who don't have his shit together got more options than a woman who looks good and does have her shit together.
	Because this is the problem.
	The type of guys that women who feel like, well, I'm graduated.
	I look good.
	I got money.
	They think they deserve a dude with money.
	And perhaps.
	But that dude feels like, why should I submit all of this energy to just you?
	So you find yourself on this hamster wheel of finding the right guy because the guys that make the money have more options than you do.
	Because unfortunately, most women want a small list of guys.
	The average guy is dealing with a wide variety of women.
	Teachers, single moms.
	We got a wide range that we like, y'all want one kind of guy and then want that kind of guy to shut down all of his litness just for you.
	So I think y'all need to lower your standards.
	That's the thing.
	Like if you want it from me and I want it from you, then that's where you guys move forward.
	Say that again?
	Like you're saying to shut all that stuff down.
	If I want it from you, then you should want it from me.
	And that's where you move forward.
	Want what?
	What do you mean?
	Like shutting down all those options.
	Shutting all those, you said like men have so many options and all these things.
	Wait, hold on.
	You should shut that down.
	I mean, but our options are, like, when I say we got more options, mean that we're willing to talk to different women, not just the one that fit our perfect ideal mate.
	Y'all are bypassing everybody.
	And I ain't going to say y'all, but a lot of women are bypassing every guy for this small elite group of 15 to 2,000 men and then complain about it's no good guys.
	No, you only want one kind of guy, which mostly every other woman wants.
	So why should he just pick you?
	If I got 30 women who know I want, like Chris Brown, he know that most women want what he wants.
	So you think he's going to pick one?
	Why should I pick one when you want what I got?
	Your girlfriend want what I got?
	Like y'all make it harder for the man to pick one because you all want the same thing.
	Things you're not willing to deal with a man for who he is.
	A man is willing to deal with a woman for who she is.
	You see men with women with children, you see men dealing with women that's overweight.
	I see a man that's dealing with a wide range of women, regardless of that man's income.
	I got a friend now that makes six figures.
	He's dealing with a woman that she's okay, but she treats him like gold, so he deals with her.
	Y'all meet a guy that treats you great, but if he ain't making enough money, no, I wouldn't say that.
	Not maybe you, but I'm sure you know women like that.
	I've got an experience right now where his money ain't dealing ain't enough for me to deal with him.
	But he might fit, but does he fit your physical?
	Well, I think, I think, no, not even that.
	I think when it comes down to people and they're dating and like what you look for in a person, yeah, I am process of eliminating for when I want to settle down and when I want to marry, and I'm trying to see what kind of person I want to be with.
	Well, who's my endgame partner, right?
	What are we going to teach our kids?
	What morals do you believe in?
	What's your belief?
	That kind of stuff too plays a big factor.
	And I think that also process of eliminates it out.
	That's true.
	So this man just process of eliminating his ass out.
	It don't matter if he makes 10 times the amount I do.
	And it don't matter the things he bought me.
	If I don't like maybe what he stands for and how he treats me, it's like no reason.
	That's true.
	All right, I'm going to get through more of the chats.
	We got Lucas here.
	Morgan, can you read this one?
	There's a few coming through.
	One, it's an uncomfortable truth, but we all have this deep-rooted primal instinct of what Carl Jung called a shadow self.
	See what also the World War II book, Ordinary Men.
	It's actually dangerous for us not.
	Thank you, Lucas, for the message.
	There's another one coming in.
	Two, to stick our head in the sand and not recognize our dark side and capacity for violence if/slash one we reach a certain breaking point or a specific confluence of circumstances.
	Okay.
	Anissa, are you able to read it?
	This next one?
	I think so.
	Hold on a sec.
	She could totally defend herself.
	Her attacker just needed to let her climb up onto his back and put him into a chokehold first.
	Lol Paladins, thank you for the message, man.
	Do you have a response to Lol Paladins?
	I'm not sure what he means by the last part.
	Climb up on top of him and put him in a chokehold.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We got a few more.
	Go ahead, Anissa.
	I'm very conflicted about women taking self-defense classes when delusion infects the mind.
	Too many Marvel comics movies.
	My wife wanted to take Brazilian jiu-jitsu classes with me.
	Bought her a pepper spray.
	Got another one.
	Lucas, thank you for the Streamlabs message.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Spray can told her to forget it and signed her up for a class in evasive tactics.
	Pepper spray, him in the eyes, scream at the top of your lungs and do your best.
	You seem both out there.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	We got one more.
	Brooks, thank you, Brooks.
	I think your only chance is a taser the balls.
	I would, I thought I was watching a snuff film for a second.
	Can we expect a second date?
	Can we expect a second date?
	You can have a first one, man.
	That wasn't.
	All right.
	Well, Eric, the other thing is, is the Crucible wanted to say Merry Christmas to you and for you showing the great demonstration of self-control and force doctrine.
	We went ahead and raised a thousand bucks for you and we wanted to send that to you.
	So we really appreciate it.
	It was actually really fun to watch that demonstrated live for, and I'm sure hundreds of thousands of people are going to see it.
	Are you for real?
	Yeah, for real.
	Yeah, we raised a thousand bucks for you.
	We just need to know how to send it over.
	Brian and I will give you the details.
	You can tell him after the show.
	Yeah, we'll get you guys connected, man.
	And real talk, Andrew, I want to also tell you this.
	A lot of people trying to give you flack on here in the comments, but one thing about me, it's obvious.
	I don't agree with everything you say, but one thing about me, and anybody know me, know this.
	I never respect men based on how other men treat them necessarily.
	To me, always respect the man based on how his woman treats him and how his mother treats him.
	And when your wife came up here the other day, based on how she carried herself, based on how she moves and how she speaks, I know that you're a great dude.
	Regardless of how people may come off, even how you may come off the meat, sometimes you come off a little anal, but I respect it.
	But your wife really said a lot about you because I feel like a man, a woman, is a reflection of a man.
	She really carries herself excellently.
	So, and she spoke highly of you.
	So, I respect it for that.
	Yeah, well, yeah, she's great.
	Well, I mean, no worries, right?
	If you're in this space for long enough, you'll see you'll get plenty of hate.
	So, I seen the funny thing, right?
	I mean, to cut you off, the first time I saw you, I fucked with you because I seen you on the stage with Fresh and Fit and him, and you was getting into it with a guy who was like real, like, muscle-bound, and the way you kind of like the way you kept your cool, and you kind of like intellectually disarmed him.
	And you, you know, you never tried to push your weight around because everybody like to talk to Alpha.
	I feel like I'm more of a Sigma type.
	And to me, you come off like a Sigma man, too.
	Like, you don't seem like you go out your way to look for attention.
	But the way you handle him, that's when I first heard of you.
	I'm like, I fuck with him.
	So, to see that we're on the same platform now, that's dope.
	So, shout out to you and your wife.
	Yeah, no, well, no worries, but yeah, on behalf of the Crucible crew, Merry Christmas, man.
	We got you.
	We raised that for you.
	That way, you get the finest ice on the market.
	Get the finest ice on the market.
	We appreciated it very much.
	Yeah, that was very kind of you, Andrew, and also very kind of everybody over there watching.
	Shout out to the Crucible.
	Shout out, guys.
	Shout out.
	Thank you guys so much.
	And you know what?
	Maybe we'll do a round two later.
	But Desmond wanted a piece.
	Desmond wanted a piece.
	So you down for yes, you're out in Desmond.
	Okay.
	I'm down.
	Yo, so guys, stay tuned.
	Be sure to stay tuned.
	We got Desmond, my security guard.
	Oh, great.
	Yeah.
	Making his debut on camera.
	Getting choked out by four foot 10 Krav McGah expert.
	Yeah, expert.
	Expert over there.
	So rock and roll.
	Oh, and we do have a super chat.
	Anissa, I'm going to have you read this one.
	Picky queen is exactly why women need firearms training from Andrew no less.
	Instead of pretending like curling eight pounds to the gym is going to allow them to take on full-grown men with their superior mass and strength.
	You have a quick response to this?
	Thank you, Brian.
	Oh, I just think we're focusing on me fighting a man against a man more than we're focusing on something tactical and evasive.
	You know, you get attacked and you make a move and you run.
	It's not like a man and a woman fighting.
	And I feel like these responses are more based off of a man and a woman fighting rather than a woman being attacked and evading.
	So that's what my response is.
	Good point.
	Okay.
	We are going to have, let's see, we have Gorlock the Destroyer.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Is that the real Gorlock?
	That is the real Gorlock.
	Okay, 10.
	10.
	4.
	10.
	Okay.
	Broke my skull.
	Wait, what?
	Broke my skull.
	Wait, so 10?
	Yeah.
	Or wait.
	She said she's all the ripples.
	She's off the hook.
	She's off the hook.
	She's off.
	She's off.
	Okay, off the so 11?
	Should I just try to 11?
	11 is fine.
	All right.
	Go ahead, Morgan.
	Seven.
	Ten.
	Is that, did you, is that new?
	Anissa?
	Can you see your mic that way?
	Wow, good job.
	Wait.
	Haven't you said something different before?
	Yeah.
	What?
	But this podcast just made me realize, like, I'm a ton.
	He learned her cards.
	Shit, fly shit.
	Okay, Eric, what about?
	I'm a 10 too then.
	Shit.
	We're going to fuck it.
	I'm a 10 now.
	I'll get myself a five.
	Andrew, what about you?
	So, I mean, if there's this many tens at the table, then of course I'm a 10.
	Word.
	All right.
	Well, why?
	Wait, why are you laughing?
	Are you saying I'm not a 10?
	Oh, no, no.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, if we can just all feel like 10s, then I feel like a 10.
	Huh?
	Okay.
	So, 10, Okay.
	All right.
	A lot of, you know, it's.
	I got a question.
	Can I ask a question?
	Yeah.
	What makes you a 10 besides your looks?
	Everybody.
	Wait, but that's the question is.
	No, no.
	I'm saying I'm asking a different person.
	Oh, I see.
	Besides your looks, what makes you a 10?
	Well, I don't know if they're.
	I don't know if they consider themselves a 10 besides their looks.
	No, I definitely.
	I would be.
	I think I have a great personality.
	I'm higher.
	So outside of your looks, while you're a 10.
	What makes you a 10?
	My aura.
	The fuck.
	Nah, I need more context than that.
	Her energy.
	Is that a brand of marijuana?
	Yeah, I think it is.
	I think that's a pet.
	That's already got a lot of people.
	That's a good order.
	Y'all pee awesome.
	You can tell even she raised her answer, so that's how you know the energy is good in the room.
	Say that again.
	She even changed her answer about herself.
	So that's how you know the energy is.
	Oh, you think she did it because of your energy?
	Everyone's energy.
	I feel like confident people can help you be more confident.
	Y'all are, these are great.
	These are real cute, sexy answers, but you really didn't answer it.
	I need something specific.
	Like, your work ether, your discipline, your heart, your charisma.
	Like, what aura.
	Your knowledge keeps you like, to me, for sure.
	Like, being educated, just being talented, being just like a great, funny person, and like knowing how to make people like smile.
	Like, I feel like I have good energy.
	That makes me a 10.
	And it rubs off on.
	What about you?
	What about you?
	What makes you a 10?
	Me, my personality, personality, and my ongoing degree learning.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm funny.
	You are?
	Yes.
	I've been laughing this whole time.
	I'm laughing right now.
	Don't you have to actually be funny to be fun?
	What?
	You want a joke?
	Yeah, make us laugh.
	I feel like I could make you guys laugh like that.
	At least by the end of this.
	Give me a joke.
	Okay, I can't just.
	I'm not that type of funny.
	Make us laugh, funny lady.
	Oh, that's from Wedding Crashers.
	Or all sort of kind of.
	See, that was a joke, right?
	See how everybody laughed?
	Your turkey?
	Go ahead.
	That's funny.
	Knock, knock.
	Ooh, this is already.
	You're already fucked up.
	He's laughing right now.
	I'm laughing at him.
	I made a joke.
	Who's there?
	Me.
	Wow, that was dog shit.
	I actually want to end this fucking podcast right now.
	She was how bad that was.
	That was the end of it.
	I don't think she had to be.
	I think she was freestyling.
	I think she had more.
	Okay, knock, knock.
	What the fuck?
	Who's there?
	Eric.
	What's up?
	Eric who?
	Eric got kicked in the balls.
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	Knock knock.
	Who's there?
	Who's there?
	So.
	You.
	You.
	You suck.
	You're boring as shit.
	You suck.
	Oh, boy.
	I'm slamming the door in his face.
	Cost times donated $200.
	Hey, B, got home from kids' chorus and band eighth grade.
	Get ready for 15 years later for you.
	It's great.
	Ask Andrew.
	Panel, have kids, they are awesome.
	You will love them so much, the new know.
	Hey, man, thank you so much for the $200 TTS, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	The W's in the chat for, we'll just call you PC.
	We're going to call you PC.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Very generous of you.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Wait, where were we?
	Oh, the 10 thing, the 10 thing.
	Wait, question.
	Do you guys agree with this scale?
	What if we, so I'll start from one, go down to 10.
	So one, but ugly.
	Two, unattractive.
	Three, frumpy or plain.
	Four, below average, five, average, six, above average, seven, pretty, eight, beautiful, nine, gorgeous, ten, absolutely stunning when it comes to looks.
	Going around the table, those of you who said ten, I want you to say that you're absolutely stunning.
	I'm absolutely stunning.
	I'm absolutely stunning.
	Waiting on you.
	Waiting on you.
	She didn't say, she's not, she didn't say, go ahead.
	Me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, I am definitely absolutely stunning in my aney.
	I'm absolutely stunning.
	Anissa, say it.
	I'm not.
	Why?
	I'm just joking.
	She was messing around with the 10 thing.
	Well, but everybody else said it.
	How about this?
	I want you to say that you are among the most beautiful women.
	One of the most beautiful women in the world.
	Can you say that?
	I feel like there's different standards in men and that's different.
	But if you're a 10, surely.
	Well, there could be women who are like, what's the term?
	Who are as attractive as you.
	But if you're a 10, there can't be any women who are more attractive than you.
	There's more than 100.
	Okay, you're right.
	So I give myself a nine.
	I give myself a nine.
	But the whatever podcast has the most beautiful women in the world on it.
	I know this for sure because all you have to do is ask them.
	Yeah.
	So I don't, I don't even understand.
	I don't even understand the standard here.
	I mean, obviously, if you're on the whatever podcast, you're among the elite women of the world looks-wise, because all women who come on the whatever podcast say that they're among the elite women of the world looks-wise.
	Wait, how about this?
	Do you guys think all women are tens?
	Those of you who said 10?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Of course.
	No.
	In like a looks way?
	Just looks.
	Back on the standard thing.
	Like, I feel like it's different to the naked eye.
	Like, you think something's beautiful, and I might think it's not.
	Is every man a 10?
	No, no.
	Oh, wow.
	See how quick.
	So why is it?
	Why is every man?
	Let me get all that responses.
	That's great.
	I agree with her.
	With who?
	With not every man's 10.
	Okay.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, I'm just saying.
	So not all women are 10s.
	Okay.
	Well.
	So there are some women who are fives.
	There are.
	Like, you can look at a woman and be like, she's a mid.
	She's a five.
	Me, I'm a ten.
	I mean, that's the thought process.
	Okay, no.
	That's literally.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Like, if people were in the different countries, they could be 10.
	Yeah, let's just talk about the.
	Wait, what?
	No, around the world.
	Like, which country?
	I feel like if a foreigner, like, let's say a black person goes to China, they're a 10.
	Or, like, okay.
	They don't see anything.
	They don't see, like, if you go to a different country, they're always looking at the people that look like them.
	Versus.
	I mean, yeah, but like, when it comes to dating, like this.
	Oh, dating, we're talking about.
	Yeah, I mean, like, you're, you're, you are, look, it's a globalized marketplace to some degree because if you're on social media, like, you could go and meet somebody in a different country.
	But like typically the standard for this sort of assessment would be like your sort of immediate geographical area or at least your country.
	So on country level USA.
	Okay, I don't think everyone's a 10.
	Yeah, and I feel like I understood where she was coming from because you could be a 10 in like LA.
	I mean, no, you could be like a 10 in like Minnesota and then like a five in LA.
	Like I feel like it depends where you are.
	Well, yeah, but then bringing it back to a global level, everybody has access to the internet.
	But you're not meeting.
	Because even before that, I mean, we all have access to the internet.
	We've all been exposed to mass media.
	We've seen beautiful people in depictions in commercials, in TV, in film.
	We know what really, really attractive people look like.
	But that's all lies.
	A lot of it isn't real.
	Yeah, and I feel like that's exactly why social media makes us think like there's way more options out there than we really have because yeah, they're on the internet, but you will never meet that person in real life.
	So it's like we're still talking about just simply comparison.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we have too many people to compare to.
	Yeah.
	Are you a 10 first thing in the morning?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you be down later later, like at the end of the show, to take your makeup off?
	All your makeup off?
	That's a lot.
	Oh, the blood.
	I think that's fair.
	I think she should still be a 10.
	I think that's fair.
	I think so.
	How you look in the morning?
	Tell me everything.
	That's why I like.
	Who you look like in the morning?
	Yeah, they'll do the makeup remember at the end of the day.
	So just to be clear, every woman is a 10, but every man is not a 10.
	That's your final answer?
	Not every woman is a 10.
	Okay, you smart.
	I like you.
	Do you think every man is a 10?
	Hell no, I don't think everybody, nobody's a 10.
	But to me, this is my thing.
	There's a difference between, I'm not about to judge men, but when it comes to women, I think there's women that are pretty and then women that are beautiful.
	I think when you're beautiful, it's more than just looks.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I think beauty is an overall energy, a modesty, a sweetness.
	And I don't think there's a lot of beautiful women in the world.
	There's a lot of pretty women, a lot of physically stunning women, but beautiful, I don't think there's a lot of beautiful women in the world, no.
	Oh, I wonder.
	And I think that there's a lot of women who are just fucking ugly, and there's a lot of men who are ugly too.
	And I think that we're just plainly coping 100% when you do this pretentious pretend thing where you're like, no, every woman's a 10.
	It's like, come on.
	You guys judge each other constantly.
	You sit at a table with a group of women.
	The very first thing you're doing is comparing your looks to the woman next to you.
	And then you cope about that too.
	And you're like, nah-uh.
	No, I'm not.
	I am not.
	I'm not doing it.
	Shout out.
	Yeah, you are.
	Of course you are.
	And the thing is, is like, no, you can clearly tell when a woman's ugly and when a woman isn't ugly.
	In fact, I know this because the very first thing I hear women say about other women who they don't like is how ugly they are.
	It's the very first thing they say.
	So I don't know.
	It just seems like it's coped to me.
	That's all.
	Well, I feel like if a woman was to say, oh, that girl's ugly, they're probably talking about like their personality.
	Like, why would they just call them ugly?
	Like, for no reason.
	Because, nah, y'all, no, no, no.
	Like, no one's going to actually go onto that and be like, positive.
	She's a little victim.
	Half her face is melted.
	She has a hunchback, right?
	She's walking around like this.
	And you're like, she's so beautiful.
	It's like, stop.
	You have a beautiful soul.
	And it's all a theory.
	Stop the cope.
	Like, why would you call someone ugly when you haven't spoken to them, though?
	Exactly.
	That's just really.
	What does that have to do with the standard of physical beauty?
	Ugly has not.
	Listen, you can say a person's ugly on the inside or beautiful on the inside.
	That's fine.
	But we're not talking about whether or not your emotions are beautiful.
	We're talking about whether or not you physically are beautiful.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, perhaps you could do that whole stupid thing with the bag blowing in the wind and say, oh, it's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, right?
	It's not, though.
	It's just an ugly ass fucking bag blowing in the wind.
	So the thing is, like, ultimately, I just want to know this: do you, guys, ever look at a woman's physical appearance and think she's unattractive by a show of hands?
	Especially in your business.
	Show of hands.
	Do you ever look at a woman and think in your head that woman's not very attractive?
	Show of hands.
	I mean, I feel like I do for a quarter of a while.
	Yeah, right, you're right.
	Everybody, though, it's not a show of hands.
	For no reason.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let's do a show of hands for this.
	Show of hands, if you would ever lie, right, about whether or not you have ever judged whether a woman is attractive or not.
	Show of hands for that, too.
	Lie?
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	All right.
	I didn't get the sentence.
	Oh, wait, there was something.
	Wait, there's something about hmm.
	Nah, whatever.
	We'll do the makeup thing in a bit.
	We have a few more chats, but related to this.
	Technotrooper, ladies, can you define healthy masculinity?
	Is there any healthy masculinity?
	Oh no.
	I mean the day makes the world go round.
	Chivalry.
	Okay, chivalry.
	Okay.
	Anybody?
	Being a provider.
	Being a protector.
	That's it.
	Paying the bills.
	That's all we are.
	Someone is ATM protection.
	Protection.
	Protecting yourself, too.
	Like the feminine and masculine.
	You can't be over-dominated in one area.
	Is there a positive attribute of a man that he has that doesn't directly benefit you that you value?
	Their knowledge.
	Okay.
	Because if they know how to survive and they know how to, you know, go about life and stuff.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Their ambition.
	You can benefit from his ambition.
	Oh, yeah, that is true.
	What is something that he does that doesn't benefit you at all that you can admire about him?
	I don't think women can think like that.
	How he treats us?
	I just did.
	That's a crazy thing to say.
	The only no, no, no.
	Like, really, when you look at men, you are only looking at how can I benefit.
	That's not true.
	Yeah, vice versa, though.
	I feel like you should be not like, oh, this person had my child, and can this person take away?
	Exactly.
	You want them to be a good father.
	So you have to think about things that go beyond what benefits you, what's going to benefit your child, what's going to benefit your family.
	I mean, you can have attributes that don't benefit me or my child at all that's still positive.
	I can admire about you.
	Exactly.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So I'm saying, do y'all, is there anything about men that's not directed to his protection?
	I'm not connected to his protection and his ability to provide for you that you still can admire about a man that doesn't include something that's done for you.
	Self-discipline.
	Okay, that's a good ass.
	I respect that.
	I like that one.
	For sure.
	Although, wouldn't that still benefit?
	Okay, he's like in really good shape, and so he's more for you.
	But self-discipline don't necessarily mean it could be self-discipline, you know, how you react to things.
	There's a lot of ways that self-discipline can be expressed.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Morgan, can you read this one?
	Yeah.
	Sorry, ladies, but Morgan is the highest in looks at the table and she's only a seven.
	What kind of backhanded compliment is that?
	I know you're saying so.
	I said so.
	All because you called yourself a seven.
	Dragon's Talon.
	Thank you for the $100 soup chat.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you so much, man.
	And then we have, oh, we have, I think Lucas.
	Oh, he just sent it in.
	One sec.
	Where is it?
	Yeah.
	Yo, bearded Fetus.
	Thank you for the gifted five subs.
	I do really appreciate it.
	We have Lucas here coming in.
	Anissa, I'm going to have you read this one.
	The circular logic that percolates in their head fascinates me.
	I ran my stats through the Delulu calculator.
	0.0013%.
	Granted, I'm already married, but if I wasn't, why would I wipe any of you up?
	That's an interesting question.
	Here, he has a follow-up, though, and then I'll let you guys answer that.
	Can we see what you look like?
	Continued.
	Are you submissive?
	Are you virtuous?
	Are you blonde and hot?
	Oh, I'm not going to ask.
	Do you have impeccable integrity and loyalty?
	Do you have impeccable etiquette and behave like a traditional lady?
	Let the spin begin.
	So the question was, why would he, but you can take this as why should a man wife any of you up?
	Starting with you.
	Well, I'm not blonde, so maybe I'm not your type.
	Yeah, well, so disregard that part, but like, let's just assume, like, why should any man wife you up?
	First of all, if he's attracted to me, then he won't care about my hair color.
	Okay, disregard, disregard that.
	Forget the blonde.
	Forget the blue.
	So there's nothing I say could win you over.
	Yeah, so for the third time.
	Super simple.
	It's super simple.
	So you're saying outside of super attractive.
	This man, the man checks all your boxes.
	He has lots of money.
	He's really handsome.
	He checks all the boxes for you.
	Okay.
	Right?
	Why should he wife you up?
	Because I'm a one-of-one.
	Yeah, everybody's one-of-one, though.
	So that doesn't make you unique at all.
	I think she's the most unique.
	No, but everybody is a one-of-one.
	So that's everybody can bring that to the table.
	Different twins.
	That's true, but like everybody is different, and somebody who wants you is going to like you for like different reasons.
	Yeah, let's let her answer.
	Go ahead.
	I'm just kidding.
	The list just goes on too long.
	Yeah, okay, go ahead.
	We'll listen to the very long list.
	Can't wait.
	I'm at the edge of my seat.
	Oh, because I'm amazing.
	Yeah, how are you amazing?
	I'm going to sound cocky.
	Yeah, how are you amazing, though?
	Girl, happy or something.
	Well, I don't know.
	I've been living my best life ever since.
	What does that mean, living your best life?
	Like, you know, just providing, making my goals become a reality.
	And I would think that if somebody sees me living a successful life, they would want to be a part of it.
	Likewise, if I see somebody living a successful life, why not be a part of it?
	Together, we could be stronger and grow.
	What else?
	Yeah, so okay, you're successful.
	What else?
	Hardworking, self-efficient, confident.
	Self-efficient, confident.
	Okay, anything else?
	Smart.
	Smart?
	Okay.
	Wise.
	Wise.
	Okay.
	Healthy.
	Healthy.
	Beautiful.
	Is smoking weed healthy?
	Yes, it is.
	Actually, a lot of people do.
	Smoking aspect, maybe.
	Smoking weed.
	A lot of people do other things too that aren't healthy, but hey.
	facts um okay so but question when you you want to get married right Yes.
	You want to have kids?
	Yes.
	How many kids?
	As many, God blesses me with.
	Okay, and do you want to be working or do you want to stay at home?
	I think I'll always work.
	I'm thankful that I work from home, so I'll probably always continue that, but I don't want to work like no nine to five.
	Okay.
	So you do want to continue working even like when you're pregnant and like a week before, but I always have my own businesses and making money in my sleep is always the goal.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So around the table, why would the perfect guy for you want to wipe you up?
	I'm the same person without them as I am with them.
	Oh.
	We'll go.
	I thought she was.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom.
	Go ahead.
	I'm educated.
	I'm successful.
	Very independent.
	I feel like I'm very motivational.
	And I feel like I could be very inspiring.
	And like I said, I have good energy and it rubs off on others.
	And I feel like that would rub off on my husband.
	And I see myself like being with somebody that I could uplift.
	Like, I'm a very like positive, excuse me, uplifting person.
	I will also say, you know, like I could cook.
	I feel like guys like that.
	I would clean.
	Like, I feel like I just can play into like my domestic role or my domestic side as like a wife.
	And yeah, I'm loyal.
	I'm funny.
	Yeah, those are mine.
	What about you?
	I'm the same person myself as I would be with them.
	Like, I'm not going to put on a show to be with the man or something.
	Genuine.
	Anything else?
	Genuine.
	I have ambition.
	I have a future.
	I have good ideologies, virtues.
	I try to make as good choices as I can.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	For the ideal partner that checks out everything for me with that motherly nature and that caring aspect, right?
	Playing in your domestic and being the caretaker to them, also.
	I'm knowledgeable, so I come with my own skills and things I've learned in life that can potentially help each other in the relationship.
	Lily, what about you?
	So someone should wife me up because it is a blessing to be in my presence.
	Bro, what?
	Stop it.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I haven't felt very, I've been in your presence for the past three hours.
	I'm not trying to wipe you up.
	So she's going to wife.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	But I'll uplift you.
	I'll motivate you.
	Inspire you to believe in yourself and reach for your goals.
	I'm smart and I'm kind.
	That was beautiful.
	That was really touching, heartwarming to hear from all of you guys.
	I need a tissue.
	That was beautiful.
	Thank you, Lucas, for the chat.
	I don't know.
	Some of the things I heard in there were like decent, I guess.
	But like a lot of you said, like, oh, I'm ambitious.
	I'm successful.
	You guys realize men don't really care about that at all.
	That's true.
	But like, it will help benefit like, you know, our family, our future legacy together.
	So this new generation, too, of men are like, this new generation of men, too, are like, what do you come to the table with?
	And I ask them about our profits.
	Yeah, no.
	I literally had somebody the other day who was trying to pursue me, be like, you know, I've already done the work.
	If somebody wants to settle down, I'll be the stay-at-home person and they can work.
	And I was like, what?
	That's true.
	Someone said that to me too before.
	They're like, how would you feel if I was a stay-at-home dad?
	I was like, hell no.
	I mean, I'll go ahead and grant that there are some, probably very few men, who have this attitude, but there's even fewer women who would even be willing to be in that sort of dynamic.
	That's crazy.
	Really quick, going back to the rating thing.
	We have a follow-up question on this.
	Do you think you'll be better looking?
	So better your looks.
	Will they be better in 10 years' time?
	You're 24.
	Will you be better looking at 34?
	Yes, because I'll have more money.
	Okay.
	20 years' time at 44?
	Yeah, faceless.
	Okay, 30 years' time at 54?
	Oh, wait, what was it?
	I'm always going to get better looking, yeah.
	Yeah, so will you be better looking at 64 then in 40 years' time?
	Okay, maybe right now is my prime.
	Wait, now's your prime in 20?
	You just said you'll be better looking in 10 years, in 10 years at 34.
	I think I'll be equally as gorgeous.
	It's a totally different answer.
	You need to lay off the weed.
	So, okay.
	Okay, so equal, you'll be just as good looking in 10 years.
	How about 20 years' time?
	Equally as good looking?
	Yeah.
	30 years equally as good looking?
	Yes.
	40 years equally as good looking.
	Probably until I'm 75, then I think that's it.
	That's your peak.
	Okay.
	That's all right.
	Probably people start getting ugly at like 67.
	Yeah, just the 60s and not earlier.
	It's like you stay the exact same for 40 years.
	Like no aging.
	It's like no aging, 40 years.
	And then like in that three-week period, you just it's over.
	Some people are like, yeah.
	You're 26, better looking in 10 years' time at 36.
	I do think, yes, better looking in 20 years time at 46.
	I think I'll still be the same around my 30s.
	Okay.
	Same or better looking in 30 years time at 56.
	Same.
	My mom is beautiful and she's 40 years time, 66.
	No, I think that's when my beauty was.
	All right, you're 35, better looking in 10 years' time at 45.
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	And then were you better looking 10 years ago at 25 versus now?
	I don't think so.
	Better looking now at 35 versus 25?
	I think so.
	Were you obese or I was.
	I was overweight.
	I've lost like half my body weight.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Wait.
	And at 410, that means a lot.
	Or 4'9 or whatever.
	Okay, you're 24, better looking in 10 years' time at 34?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I think with age comes like change in elegance and also like that maturity and like the style change.
	So okay, 20 years time at 44.
	Better looking?
	Better looking or I feel like still looking good.
	Like you taking care of yourself.
	Better looking.
	Or you could it can be just as good looking.
	I feel like just as good looking.
	Okay.
	Or you know I can get plastic surgery.
	You can do that.
	Sure.
	30 years time at 50.
	Yeah, exactly.
	People could do that.
	30 years' time at 54.
	54, still good looking.
	Yeah, not the question is like either better looking or still looking the same, right?
	That's what you said?
	Yeah, but the question, it's not still looking, because you can be 30, 40, 50 and still be attractive.
	Yeah.
	That's not the question.
	The question is, will you be as attractive or more attractive in 10, 20, 30 years' time?
	We're at 55?
	54?
	54, yeah.
	In 30 years' time.
	I think I'll still be looking attractive.
	Do I have to repeat the question a third time?
	Will you look better?
	Apparently, maybe.
	Better?
	No, better or still attractive.
	Still as still as attractive.
	The operative word as is very important.
	Yes, you can still be attractive at 50, 60.
	I'm not asking if you'll still be attractive.
	Will you be as attractive as you are now?
	At 55 or 54?
	I hope so.
	I don't know.
	Time will tell.
	All right.
	You're 24.
	Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 34?
	Yes.
	20 years' time at 44.
	Yes.
	30 years' time, 54.
	Yes.
	40 years at 64.
	Yes.
	50 years at 74.
	Yes.
	60 years at 84.
	Yes.
	70.
	Hold on.
	70 years at 94.
	Yeah.
	Or you're actually.
	I don't know what drink you're taking, but I want that shit.
	Can you close the door, David?
	Yeah, that was obviously a troll answer, but okay.
	Do we have, can you, do you have the photos, Damien?
	Do we have two batches or just a lot?
	Just one?
	Okay, keep an eye if we get a second batch, okay?
	Yeah.
	It's like so bad faith.
	Yeah, I'm going to be.
	I'll bet I have me looking like Sammy David Jr.
	I don't know what the hell that'd be.
	Boy, what?
	Yep.
	All right, we have age-advanced you, all of you guys.
	And Mama.
	How old is she there?
	Yikes.
	You look like a scary message.
	Okay, next.
	I'm not going to want a granny.
	Okay.
	Alright, next.
	You also made...
	Whoa!
	Oh, my God.
	That's 10 years.
	That's the look you got.
	Yeah, how many years is this?
	Is that age 10?
	Next.
	In 10 years.
	Oh, I look here.
	How'd you get the pose?
	I'm like a little old Asia lady.
	Yikes.
	You don't look that bad either.
	You became.
	You say a yikes like we have like no wrinkles.
	He's still famous.
	I feel like on the right, you look like a Titan from Attack on Titan.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Wow.
	Chat, do you know what I mean, bro?
	Wait, I didn't even see this until before, but you're right.
	She does.
	She looks like a Titan from Attack on Titan.
	It's true.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'll find a thing.
	Next.
	Oh, God.
	Wait, maybe I shouldn't put.
	Morgan?
	How old is she supposed to be?
	Stay here for a second.
	Like, the one on the right, I feel like that's somebody that you just see at Trader Joe's.
	Like, I see her at Trader Joe's all the time.
	Okay, next.
	Wow, you look crazy.
	I'm not going to age well.
	She looks less Asian.
	Are you Asian?
	Yeah.
	She kind of became Mexican a little.
	I don't know.
	Does anybody else see it?
	She became Mexican.
	She got a little soft.
	Like a little Mexican all of a sudden.
	All right, what else we got?
	We got.
	They always got me looking crazy.
	Y'all don't look nothing like me, man.
	It's like, can somebody, wait, can somebody do this?
	I got my father on my phone.
	He only looked at me.
	Who's that guy with the deep voice, the actor?
	Morgan.
	That's famous aim is the cookie man.
	Can you guys make him look like with the spots?
	Frank.
	Moore?
	They should do you.
	Do we have more?
	Do we have more?
	You're the last one.
	We got more?
	Oh, yeah.
	Get that out of here.
	Obviously.
	Obviously.
	Nah.
	Obviously.
	Next.
	There you go.
	Another batch came through?
	All right.
	Can you keep an eye if another batch comes through?
	Yeah, that's crazy, man.
	That's crazy.
	So, oh, wait, we didn't do the, like, Okay, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	We have to pull it back up.
	I messed up.
	Pull it back up.
	Pull it back up.
	From the beginning.
	Did we say like what age that was?
	No, that was making that.
	I'm a guesser.
	Like 20.
	That's like 20 years.
	That's like 20 years.
	Pull it back up.
	A little smaller, I think.
	Okay, so question.
	Question.
	What's the fuck is that?
	Question.
	Are you better looking on the younger on the left or older on the right?
	Okay, so better looking younger?
	Okay, next.
	Which one?
	Better looking?
	Yes, younger.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Oh my god.
	Yeah.
	Maybe we gotta like, can we make her younger?
	We gotta make her younger because she says she's better looking now.
	You like a murderer or something?
	Yeah.
	Like I look like I've been killing.
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh, you know how you look at age like five.
	Younger.
	I feel like the same.
	Like I feel like I still look away.
	I don't remember her name either.
	Okay, you caught me.
	I don't feel like we look horrid.
	Right, we don't look that bad.
	All right.
	Okay, all right.
	You know what though, Andrew?
	We've tangled a bit on the plastic surgery thing.
	And I feel like perhaps my views on plastic surgery, I've actually been seeing some videos of some really remarkable, like kind of passing plastic surgery where it's not apparent.
	And it's like full facelift and like maybe I'm just basing this off of like plastic surgery I saw like a decade ago where it's like clearly they have plastic surgery.
	It looks to me it looked botched.
	It was very obvious that they had plastic surgery.
	But some of the procedures now are actually, I'm still not in favor of the plastic surgery, but they're actually pretty advanced.
	Or perhaps the changes that have been made in the field are very advanced.
	I'm still not, again, I'm still against plastic surgery, but it is pretty remarkable some of the stuff that they are doing to the point where it's actually, it doesn't, some of these procedures that are pretty significant, the results are good is what I'm trying to get at.
	So it made me kind of rethink my position a little bit.
	I still have objections to plastic surgery, but the results do seem to actually be, can be good.
	Whereas before I was just like, they're botched as fuck.
	Yeah, I mean, I think it's surgery dependent, though, right?
	It depends on what type.
	I was like, I don't think the Brazilian butt left ever looks.
	So I don't like the implant shit, like BBL and fake tits, but like any of the face stuff, like I saw this video of this woman who'd like totally transformed her face.
	And it looked pretty good, I guess.
	You don't like BBLs, Brian?
	You do?
	I mean, it depends on.
	Listen, listen, I don't like implants.
	I don't like surgery.
	I like natural.
	BBL is natural.
	But a BBL is really just shifting weight into a different place.
	So it's like, I don't deem it as bad.
	I think it's dangerous to the woman's body because a lot of women, that's a major surgery.
	But I don't look at a BBL as implants.
	You got to work for it.
	They look like they shit their pants, bro.
	Some people got fucked up BBLs, but some people look good as hell with them shits.
	It just depends on the bad.
	The kiddie BBL, the natural BBLs.
	Can't even tell they got worked.
	It's cheating.
	It's cheating.
	It's definitely cheating.
	It might be cheating, yeah, but it's not to say, like, does it look good?
	Work for that shit.
	Okay, but they're paying for it.
	You can't get a big butt.
	You have a BBL?
	No.
	You have anything?
	No.
	So wait, I don't understand they're paying for it, though?
	No.
	Like, you're saying work for that shit.
	They worked in a different way.
	They used their money to pay for their BBL.
	No, I mean, like, physically work for it.
	Like, everybody can't get the perfect body.
	You can't make your breast bigger.
	You can't make your butt bigger.
	Right.
	You can, exercise, you can make your butt bigger.
	Slightly.
	Yeah, like, no.
	Well, yeah, breasts, you can't do anything.
	What about those women who got them messed up?
	You know that.
	But you know them funny.
	Now we all know about them funny shape, snapple bodies.
	Snap.
	You know, the heavy top and a small bottom.
	It's nothing they can do.
	I don't care how much they work out.
	They need a miracle.
	So some women, I feel like, it's justified because one thing about women I've learned is they don't feel pretty, bro, there's nothing you can tell them until they feel like they're pretty.
	Like, that's a whole different dynamic.
	I don't think we understand.
	Women got to feel pretty in her own eyes for her to feel confident.
	That's true.
	Why are you against it?
	Against what?
	Plastic surgery?
	I mean, there's a couple reasons.
	From a dating, there's the dating perspective where it's like, okay, a woman who's like so insecure to the point that she's going to like go under the knife and spend thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
	One, that's a financial liability in the relationship, especially if she's looking at me to be the provider.
	If I'm going to be with her for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years, she's going to be looking at me to be like continuously having this sort of upkeep for, which could otherwise be better spent on like vacations or the kids or something like this.
	Also, it's just like it's a proxy or an indicator for mental illness.
	If you're like so insecure about your appearance that you're like, okay, I'm going to spend all this money and do a dangerous surgery where I could die for vanity, then yeah, there's like kind of something you could have body dysmorphia or dysphoria.
	Dysmorphia.
	Dysmorphia.
	You've got body dysmorphia.
	It's just, and then from an aesthetic perspective, still related to dating, I typically don't find, like, I don't think fake boobs look good.
	They don't feel good.
	BBL doesn't.
	I'd rather like, I say this all the time on the show, but I'll just repeat it quickly.
	I'd prefer a girl with like A-cup or nothing or whatever, B-cup, over like the perfect.
	Nothing.
	So you don't like boobs?
	No, big boobs are cool too, but like what?
	I mean, I could get into the details on this, but I'd prefer like A-cup over like perfect fake titties.
	I'd prefer like a flat bum over like the BBL or whatever.
	I'd prefer a little bit of belly fat over the lipo belly.
	I just think it looks weird.
	And then there's a labia plasty too.
	Oh, like no upper lip versus the lip filler.
	Don't like it.
	So yeah.
	So is that like your type?
	Like your favorite body type to see is like flat titties, flat ass, flat lips, like everything just flat.
	No, I mean, I do actually think that like big boobs are good.
	Big butt is good.
	You just like the natural big boobs, natural big butt.
	Yeah, I like natural and like plump lips, those are good too, I guess.
	But I mean, also I care more about like, I mean, looks fade.
	And if this is going to be like the person I'm spending my life, obviously I care about looks, but like there are things that are like way more important than just like, okay, you've got a fat ass, whatever.
	Like, and also I'm a labia guy.
	Like, I'm not a boob guy.
	I'm not a butt guy.
	I'm a labia.
	You just like to get straight to the question.
	I only, yeah, like large labia.
	But you don't like to eat it, though.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	I'm just saying.
	You like to eat.
	You like labia, but you don't eat it.
	I'm just suss.
	That's the whole song.
	Wow, this is a woman.
	How's it sus when you're a little bit more?
	Not eating pussy is so good.
	Hang on.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	It's like, it's like, think of it like a wedding cake from Brian's angle.
	Okay.
	Wedding cakes are beautiful to look at, but they don't taste very fucking good.
	Right?
	So nice to look at.
	But nobody wants to eat a piece of wedding cake.
	It never tastes good.
	Wedding cake never tastes good.
	So that's Brian's position.
	That's Brian's position.
	That's Brian's position.
	Yeah, I mean, like, boobs don't really care about like nice butt, sure.
	It's like, it's like labia, but boobs.
	In that order.
	But how do you know what somebody's labia looks like when you first meet?
	He's just looking at it.
	He's not doing nothing.
	I mean, you could like, I mean, maybe, maybe she's sending you a picture beforehand.
	Oh, before you guys have sex?
	Sure, why not?
	So the labia is the lips?
	That's the pussy.
	It's the flower.
	It's the lips.
	It's mostly the lips, yeah.
	So you like, you like, you like, like, just looking at pretty vaginal lips.
	That's like the thing.
	But not eating.
	But not eating it.
	It's a woman.
	We're talking about a woman.
	It's nothing gay.
	No, I'm not saying it's gay.
	It's just kind of funny.
	I mean, you said you're a labia guy, but you don't want to eat it, but you just want to look at it.
	That's funny to me.
	Well, it's also, look, it's not just.
	I can't see the bass action.
	I'm going to articulate this.
	There is a difference, not just visually, too.
	I'll just say that.
	So you think the lips affect the feeling?
	A little bit.
	Yeah, there's a bit of a different feeling.
	I don't agree.
	Okay, how about this?
	If you're kissing a girl with like thin.
	This is different.
	Like the mouth, lips.
	Okay.
	If you're kissing a girl with super thin lips versus like really plump, big lips, there's a difference.
	Right?
	It depends on what I'm doing.
	You're now.
	I'm kissing you.
	It's more to me.
	I don't want to get graphic, but of course, this lips miss a lot of tongue work.
	So lips don't only determine how you move that tongue.
	That's one.
	Two, when I'm dealing with the, I'm just saying, it's my tongue.
	But I'm not talking about time.
	No, I'm saying, but when it comes to kissing, to me, tongue matters more than just lips.
	No, no, no, but I'm just talking about the lips.
	Like there's a different feeling.
	Like it feels different.
	But when it comes to penetrating, them lips don't determine how good it feels.
	When they're second dude.
	You can have two.
	But I'm talking about if you're having sex with a woman, the size of her lips doesn't mean the sex is going to be good, is what I'm saying.
	You can have fat, yeah.
	You can have great.
	Look, I date women with innies too.
	You can have good sex with women with innies.
	Of course.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Okay.
	No, that's what I'm trying to say.
	So explain to me what you're trying to say as far as the benefit of the big lips opposed to not.
	Like, what do you get out of the lips besides visual?
	If you just like how it looks, that's cool too.
	No, most of it is visual.
	Most of it is visual, but there is a bit of a difference in feeling.
	A little suction action.
	A little grippage.
	A little grippage, okay.
	I don't think lips determine the grip, but hey.
	No, it's a grippage.
	Lips that grip.
	I think they're making the grip.
	Lips can slip too for what?
	I'm like, yeah, I don't think the lips are.
	The grip is behind the lips.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Yeah.
	The grip is the vagina.
	Yeah, that's the gums.
	Y'all never hurt lips that grip.
	They're making it grip.
	The pussy is with gripping.
	I feel like fat coochie lips for sure probably feel a little different.
	They look good in the sweats.
	They don't mean it's good.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Otherwise.
	Y'all crazy, man.
	Y'all crazy.
	It's never the girl with the craziest body that got the good sex if we want to keep it above.
	Yeah, they be saying, like, be careful.
	The girl with the crazy, big, nice body don't always have the best sex.
	It's really them petite ones that are thinking like BBOK.
	I can't believe it.
	Or something like that.
	Oh, wait.
	Let's pull.
	Since we're on the topic right now, do you have that?
	Make sure it's on the picture of the guy like prior to surgery.
	I want to see the transformation.
	Can you pull that up?
	Okay.
	Also, do you have, did any more.
	Okay, we'll do that in a sec here.
	Let's see the surgery guy first, though.
	All right, ladies, tell us what you think.
	Here's a guy getting surgery on his face, I think.
	Like current surgery or before and after?
	Joe Carlo.
	I'm scared.
	Oh, I see this.
	All right, next.
	Oh, go back.
	Wow.
	That jaw implant will do it to you.
	Next.
	There's a jaw.
	One more time.
	And then go back.
	That's what Joe Carlo did.
	That's fucking.
	That's a pretty big transformation.
	That's wild.
	Jaw extension and some shit.
	I think he got a chin implant, and then he got some filler in his jaw.
	Yeah.
	You know, they got height surgeries too, right?
	Yeah.
	That's weird as hell to me.
	That seems like why can't people just be happy?
	All right, here's the cards I'm dealt.
	You know, do what you can to improve yourself naturally, you know?
	Like, but you got to think.
	That comes with confidence in yourself.
	Like, we live in a country that's, unless you're very emotionally and intellectually developed, a lot of people buckle under that societal pressure that you got to have this.
	You got to look like that.
	Like, everybody's not that strong, bro.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	But I just see this creep creeping when it comes to all the makeup usage, the cosmetic usage, the plastic surgery.
	It's like this constant creep.
	Like 20 years ago, it was super rare for a young girl.
	Like when I say like young girl, like between 18 to 25, to do anything plastic surgery.
	Anything.
	Super rare.
	Because I monetize it now.
	Now it's super common for women to be getting filler.
	That used to be Botox.
	That used to be for like 40 and 50 year olds.
	Now, like, women in their 20s are getting this shit.
	And there's this fucking creep.
	When I say creep, like this creep of, you know, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think it's because of social media and the fact that now you can monetize that.
	Because now a girl who's very attractive, she could just start a social media account, get OnlyFans and get rich.
	So the effort they were put into getting a degree or going to school, now they're putting that effort into just changing their body for a career.
	So I think it's because of the times we live in.
	Yeah.
	It's easier to get your body done than to go to school to be a lawyer.
	Yeah.
	You could probably make them more money, too.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it's.
	I understand the appeal because, like, there's a lot of privilege when it comes to being good looking.
	Like, there's a lot of benefits that being attractive confers when it comes to finding a boyfriend, finding a girlfriend, just in life in general.
	That, you know, if they've done studies, like people are better looking, they get paid more, they end up doing better.
	Pretty privileged.
	Pretty privileged, exactly.
	So, but I don't know.
	It's just OnlyFans, man.
	I don't know.
	Y'all, any OnlyFans?
	I don't think anybody.
	Any enthusiasts in here?
	Enthusiasts?
	I'm getting funny, but y'all do OnlyFans.
	Anybody else?
	I don't think anybody here does OF.
	It kind of looks like you're making a face.
	What's going on there?
	Are you a stripper or something?
	No.
	I like used to, but I stopped.
	Ah, we got one.
	Used to.
	We don't have one.
	Not active.
	How long was you OnlyFans?
	I don't even want to talk about it.
	Oh, God.
	Did you do other kinds of sex work, like escorting?
	I mean, you don't got to do nothing nasty to be OnlyFans.
	Some girls just be baking cookies in their drawers and some shit.
	Yeah, I was just real cute with, you know, like just little sexy thirst track pictures and stuff.
	I'm going to have you read this chat.
	Ray Bovis, thank you for the super chat.
	I feel like dot dot dot, a man would wife me up because I'm smart and ambitious.
	Ambitionistic.
	Maybe you said ambitionist.
	L-O-L-Wow.
	She's ambitionist.
	I think she's.
	Okay, maybe I should have said my lips are fat.
	You're what?
	You said ambitionistic.
	You said that?
	No.
	Wait, you should have said your what?
	Her lips are fat.
	What lips?
	Why?
	What's wrong with ambitionism?
	That's a real word.
	Ambitionistic is a little bit.
	Ambitionistic?
	That's a word?
	I don't know.
	Ambimatronic.
	Oh.
	Ambitionistic.
	He might have just made a word.
	She's an abolitionist.
	Oh, wow.
	Are you an abolitionist?
	Today I am.
	Are you an accelerationist?
	Uh-oh, hold on.
	Never mind.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Shouldn't talk about that.
	Accelerationist.
	Next topic.
	It's like.
	Wait, are you what?
	Are you white?
	Or like Hispanic?
	Yeah, I'm Hispanic, Latin.
	You're what?
	Hispanic, she said.
	Oh, okay, never mind.
	What's your nationality?
	I'm black and Caribbean.
	What?
	Jamaican?
	Indelesian?
	No, my family is from the St. Thomas Virgin Islands.
	Okay, okay.
	That's what's up.
	Okay.
	But who are you?
	Huh?
	Who are you?
	Oh, boy.
	Should I tell them?
	Should I tell them what I am?
	No, tell them what I am.
	He's from.
	I want you to say it.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm telling them.
	He's from.
	He's half American.
	Half.
	No.
	Eric.
	Russian.
	You're half.
	Tell them.
	You're half American and Moroccan.
	Nah, Eric.
	You're from Algiers, North Africa, right?
	Eric.
	What?
	Tell them what I.
	I know what you think you are.
	No, no, no.
	Tell them what I am.
	What does he do?
	He thinks he's an African-American, but I think he's more of a like.
	I don't even consider myself African-American.
	Like, that's a whole nother conversation, though.
	But that's another conversation.
	DM me.
	We'll talk about it later.
	He's from Algiers, right?
	Your father, your mother's from Algiers, right?
	Yeah, but that's in North Africa.
	My mom was born in America, technically.
	So he's technically African, North African.
	Or Maurice.
	In historical times, you would be considered a mulatto or Maurice.
	But you could be a white African.
	Yeah, no, that doesn't mean African-American.
	I'm not black.
	Okay.
	I'm not black.
	Okay, okay.
	But I am African-American.
	Where were you born?
	Huh?
	Where were you born?
	Europe.
	What?
	Oh, you were literally born over there.
	I was born in France.
	Oh, man.
	So I'm confused.
	Why are you saying you're African-American?
	Well, my dad was born in Africa.
	My mom was born in America.
	But African-American is black.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not black.
	I'm definitely.
	Have you seen how pale I am?
	He's just putting the words together.
	It is what he is doing.
	Was your father born almost as white as look at that?
	Hold on.
	You're jacking.
	You can't even see the wall, bro.
	You're not African American.
	It's just like it blurs together.
	So is your father from Europe, but was born in Africa?
	Oh, he was born out of the world.
	You could be a white African American.
	He was born in Africa.
	You can be white.
	My dad was born in Africa.
	How does he look?
	Because I could be born in China, but my parents are from Detroit.
	That don't mean I'm Chinese.
	I am 0% black.
	I'm African-American, though.
	No.
	Based on the word, he's right technically.
	Technically.
	He's African and American.
	No, I'm African-American.
	No.
	Like on a GNA test, you will be.
	But like, if my dad was born in Europe, he's kind of white.
	That doesn't make me Canadian.
	Technically.
	My dad was born in Canada, but we're Asian.
	It doesn't make me Canadian.
	I wasn't born in Canada.
	That's your nationality.
	Canadian nationality.
	National race or ethnicity.
	But you're saying because your dad was born in Africa, you were born in Europe.
	That associates you with.
	Yeah, that's nationality.
	No, no.
	Like, my dad was born in Africa.
	Like, for example, if your dad was born in Germany and your mom was born in America, she'd be like German-American or some shit.
	But that wouldn't make you American.
	Keep being funny, but genealogy, you're from Europe.
	Your family's both sides of Europe.
	You're not German-American.
	Yes.
	Yes, I'm European.
	Absolutely.
	But if you're at, wait, if you're African-American, then you also have European lineage.
	Almost all African-Americans have at least some European lineage in them.
	I mean, anybody in America.
	You're talking 90, 95%.
	African Americans usually, yes, because we're enslaves.
	No, no, I'm not kidding about that.
	That is true.
	No, you're right.
	We know that.
	That's a fact.
	We were enslaved, yes.
	Didn't we all come from Mesopotamia?
	Well, we all came.
	Well, we all actually came from Iraq, which was, that's where the Garden of Eden was, was in Iraq.
	So I am white and European, but definitely not black.
	But I am African-American.
	Desmond, it's all just a bunch of idpole category errors, essentially.
	So it's just, everybody's just mixing up ethnicity with the idea of race.
	And then they throw a bunch of identity politics in there in order to make distinguishments between race and ethnicity.
	That's all it is.
	It's all just it pulled on.
	There really is no wrong answer because it's all just made up shit.
	Ultimately, it's all just made up garbage.
	I do want to say on Sunday show, Eric also, he did teach me how to do a dap.
	I believe it's called.
	Do you remember?
	I forgot already, but he did teach me how to do, it's called a dap up.
	That's not very African-American of you.
	Damio.
	That you didn't know what that is.
	My African-American card was revoked.
	This is true.
	He revoked it, but then he gave it back.
	Did you give it a break?
	I have a learner's permit.
	Okay, show us.
	What?
	Show us.
	You remind it.
	You're going to probably.
	I'll fuck it up again.
	I shouldn't do it.
	I mean, if I got choked, you definitely should do that.
	I'll show you after this.
	I'll dap you up after the show, though.
	You can tell me if it's pretty good.
	Just three steps.
	Just three steps.
	You had the second batch.
	Let's see the second batch.
	Make these big.
	It was good.
	She classic.
	Photoshop.
	Chicken MILF.
	Okay, next.
	Next.
	What the fuck?
	What is that?
	I don't even look like that.
	That's like a treason.
	Next one.
	Okay.
	This one is transforming us into different people.
	A little bit.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Whoa.
	You look like Lord Voldemort.
	In the right.
	They definitely do.
	In the right.
	Hey, can somebody.
	All right, next.
	Wait, wait, wait, go back, go back.
	Hold on, wait, go back.
	No, they fucked up Kiki too, bro.
	Look at that.
	Bro, they did Kiki dirty.
	Kiki looks like a fucking zombie grave monster.
	She.
	Okay, next.
	Wow.
	Damn.
	Oregon.
	What the hell?
	Damn.
	Okay, next.
	Wow, Anissa.
	Wow, Anissa looks really presidential.
	She looks like she's looking into the distance.
	Like, it could be some like Anissa.
	Anissa 2044 or some shit.
	Why are you like red?
	Because that's a good question.
	I don't know.
	Is there another one?
	What do we got?
	Oh, okay.
	Who is that?
	All right.
	Why is he blind, though?
	He's got like.
	Okay, next.
	That's it.
	Okay, all right.
	All right.
	We have, let's see, Hugo here.
	The more a girl.
	This is Russian.
	Or wait, what is our dollar?
	I don't know.
	Hugo, thank you, man.
	The more a girl says she is a 10, the more psychopathic and insecure she is, unfortunately.
	Do you guys want to respond to all the tens at the table?
	I feel like no matter what number we say, that's going to be their response.
	Facts.
	Yeah.
	Some people.
	I don't know.
	If you're like, yeah, I'm like a seven.
	I feel like most guys are.
	I'm kind of.
	That's because that's what they think of themselves.
	They're a seven.
	So they're better.
	He's insecure.
	Project.
	Wait, can I ask you a question?
	Let me ask you.
	So, have you ever seen a guy who's mid, looks mid?
	All the time.
	All the time, yeah.
	And so, like, but you're able to make determinations when it comes to male attractiveness, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so let's say you met a guy who you weren't physically attracted to, but then he said, well, I'm a 10.
	Would you then be attracted to him?
	I would respect him for his confidence.
	So would you then be attracted to him?
	Like, you're not physically attracted to this guy at all, but then he opens his mouth and he's like, well, I'm a 10.
	And he says that shit with like some serious confidence and he believes it too.
	Are you all of a sudden attracted to him or no?
	I feel like if his actions also prove that he's a 10, yeah, I could get some attraction.
	Go some attraction towards that.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Oh, we have two pictures.
	Damien, there's the Leonardo DiCaprio one with the other guy.
	It's like.
	He's fine.
	If you're a little bit.
	I don't know about.
	Yo, Hugo, thank you for the.
	What currency is this, Hugo?
	Is it Brazilian Real?
	Is it wait, hold on?
	Bitcoins.
	What is that?
	R?
	Is that Russian?
	Accept what?
	She is unable to accept.
	I think it's Brazilian Real.
	Or no, but typical.
	Yeah, it is Brazilian rehab.
	What is that like?
	Like $3?
	Hold on.
	$100 to USD.
	Are you abusing my friend?
	Do you have it?
	Yep.
	All right, you can go ahead and pull it up.
	I'm just curious, which one is more physically attractive?
	Leo or Leonardo DiCaprio?
	Or Jonah?
	Is that his name?
	Jonah Wilson, right?
	Jonah Hill?
	Jonah Hill.
	Leo?
	Yeah, Leo.
	Leonardo.
	Leo.
	Leo.
	Okay, and I think you need to go back for the other picture.
	I think it's one back.
	Which one's more attractive?
	The girl on the left or the girl on the right?
	Probably everyone will think that.
	What do you think?
	Okay, the one on the left.
	Okay.
	Just because her outfit.
	What about you?
	Oh, wait, wait, Just because her outfit.
	Yeah.
	That's fair.
	Picture them naked and then tell us.
	I don't like this comparison.
	Yeah, this is like the worst looking black person I've ever seen in my life.
	You can't see.
	What made her tell the truth?
	You can't really see it.
	This is a bad photo.
	The lighting is on.
	She looks crazy.
	Hold on.
	Which one's more attractive?
	The left.
	Okay.
	I think anyone who wouldn't say the person on the left would be a liar.
	I mean, I kind of want to decline to answer because I can't see them.
	Really?
	They're fair.
	Maybe she's just really dark.
	Racism right there.
	Can't really even see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you can't pick one?
	I feel like this isn't a fair comparison.
	What do you mean?
	How's it not a fair comparison?
	Like, there's like dark shadows.
	We can't really see.
	There's two different types of women in size and style and how they're dressing.
	Yeah, that's the nature of comparisons.
	You're comparing them.
	But I mean, the compare you did prior were two white males who are in the same age range.
	Right.
	They look both aged differently, come from two different backgrounds as well.
	Dressed similarly.
	Are they not comparable?
	The other two are in the same place.
	Anything.
	But what does that have to do with anything?
	The comparison is just asking which one's more attractive.
	It has nothing to do with anything else.
	The question is, which one of these women is more conventionally attractive from your view?
	That's all that's asking.
	We know I decline to answer because my question is.
	Do you know the question?
	Because it seems like you don't know the question.
	Wait, your question is a setup.
	The question is a setup.
	Which one's actually more attractive?
	The question is a setup.
	How's it going?
	In my opinion.
	Because you're going to pick the worst picture of a very dark-skinned woman and put her next to her next.
	You want me to find a white woman?
	Yeah, two white girls.
	Yeah, do that.
	Two white women.
	Do that.
	What do you think about race?
	It has nothing to do with race.
	I can find unattractive white women too.
	Okay, find two actresses that are in the same place.
	It's like Jonah Hill and Homie.
	They don't look alike, but they're similar in class.
	They're similar in earnings.
	I don't know that.
	The second picture is like a homeless person.
	That's not racist to me.
	The option of just asking which one of these women is more conventionally attractive from your view.
	Y'all know that.
	I don't understand what that has to do with race, except that you want to see race in it.
	There's other factors outside of race with the same thing stating that the two men were in the same area.
	They're both, you know, same age range.
	They're dressed the same.
	They're coming to the same style for a lot of people.
	They're both celebrities.
	The other two women look like they were dressed differently, supposed to be in two different places.
	Maybe, you know, one was like a damn thing.
	I don't understand what any of this has to do with the question of which one do you find more conventionally attractive.
	Well, my question is a setup.
	The Wesley setup.
	What's the setup?
	To get us to call the girl ugly.
	No, that's not what was asked.
	Did anybody say you had to call anybody ugly?
	Yeah, you don't have to call anybody ugly.
	Saying they're less conventionally attractive is calling them ugly.
	Okay, but why were you guys so quick to do it?
	Okay, so you could never say that one woman was more attractive than another because you'd be calling the one woman ugly, not just saying the one was more attractive.
	We don't want to say she's ugly.
	Nobody asked you to say that she's ugly.
	Who asked you to say she's ugly?
	You guys did.
	When y'all asked that question, y'all said, who is less conventionally attractive?
	That means who is uglier?
	Yeah, no, it's asking which one's more attractive.
	So you can have two really good-looking people.
	One could be more attractive than the other, right?
	Yes, most definitely.
	Okay, well, if that's the case, then the logic wouldn't follow that because you say one's more conventionally attractive than the other, you're calling the other one ugly.
	That would make no sense.
	That doesn't make a lot of sense in my head.
	I think what they're trying to express the realm of has no logic, I guess, but it makes no sense.
	There's two good-looking people.
	You find one more attractive than the other.
	That's not calling the other good-looking person ugly.
	I think, based on the history of racial comparison in this country, that the average person who, you know, can take that as racist because you got the most ugliest, non-attractive black woman who's out of shape, that fits a lot of stereotypes of being out of shape, you know, overweight, compared to.
	I'm just telling you how people think.
	You don't have to like it, but this is America.
	So when you do that, after you take Jonah Hill and Leonardo DiCaprio, and then you take this real, homely-looking, overweight, typical-looking, underprivileged black woman next to this pristine, slim white woman, the average person could see some type of, you know what I mean?
	Everybody's not going to take his cut and dry like that.
	You can't, like, you can't stand why somebody will say it.
	By the way, she's Australian Aboriginal.
	I have no idea what it has to do with race.
	You're just asking which one's more conventionally attractive.
	That's they're in Australia.
	I'm not saying it does, but I can see how somebody could take it that way.
	But you can see how somebody could take it that way.
	There's plenty of people that's going to watch his back and take it that way.
	People can take bizarre things.
	And that's how I'm taking it.
	But it has nothing to do with what's actually being asked.
	Yeah, it has nothing to do with race.
	Right.
	And then find a photo of what she said.
	You were going to find.
	Yeah, but then if we do that, you're making it about race.
	No, you just said that.
	Yeah, you guys are making it about race.
	Yeah, if you tell Brian that you'll only rate if it's two white women, you're actually making it about race, not Brian.
	Why shouldn't we make it?
	Maybe if she wasn't so far unattractive, I'm just telling you how people can perceive it.
	I'm not saying you're right or they're wrong, but it's just perception.
	Sure, that's hard.
	Yeah, but if you say, why shouldn't we make it about race?
	That's fair.
	But then you could never criticize Brian if you thought he was making it about race, right?
	I didn't think it was only about race.
	I also thought it was about body size as well.
	So isn't that a component of physical attractive?
	Yeah, that would be a comparison of physical attractiveness, I would think.
	I mean, Jonah Hill is chubbier than Leonardo DiCaprio.
	But my thing is, Jonah Hill, some people find Jonah Hill attractive outside of us.
	I feel like you picked the picture of somebody that most people will probably never find attractive.
	Oh, so just to be clear, so it's easier for you to make a determination when it comes to Jonah Hill, where there's less of a discrepancy in physical appearance between him and Leonardo DiCaprio.
	But when it's evidently clear that the woman on the right is clearly less attractive than the woman on the left, then you can't make the determination.
	Yes, because it's more attractive.
	And the affirmative statement?
	How's it unfair?
	We just explained it.
	We just explained it back to back to back.
	Why is it unfair?
	Why is this set up?
	And why we don't want to answer that question?
	Or could it be a good idea?
	You actually don't actually understand the explanation.
	Of course, you don't.
	No.
	Or then is it just actually essentially a capitulation that you guys are actually sexist then?
	No.
	Oh, so it's easier for you guys to judge men, but when it comes to appraisals of women's looks, then there's a bigger issue.
	No, well, you basically compare two actors, two famous actors.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	Because people are going to find her attractive no matter what.
	For reasons besides looks?
	Yeah, they got money.
	They're both rich.
	There are some girls who will say Jonah Hill is more attractive.
	They're not really an attractive man at all.
	Jonah Hill is not economically attractive.
	There's some women out there that will go for Jonah Hill over Leonardo DiCaprio.
	You're saying that there's nobody who will go for this woman?
	Let's go around the table.
	Actually, we already did.
	All of you said Leonardo de Laparaz.
	We're all just one group of women.
	We don't represent all.
	Women out in the world.
	You think it's 99% of women pick Leonardo over Jonah Hill?
	99?
	99.
	I would say, like, I think it would be 80% Leonardo or 20%.
	One out of five women picks Jonah Hill over Leonardo DiCaprio.
	I think so.
	Yes.
	Jonah Hill still has something to gain attraction outside of his looks.
	Exactly.
	That woman don't have nothing besides their looks.
	Colonel Mush, she don't look like besides looks.
	I don't think she can get anybody lock up happening right now.
	Yeah, there seems to.
	I don't really understand.
	There's no, if you're going to make a comparison on just conventional looks, then the idea that it needs to have some type of racial stereotype to it is bizarre to me.
	It doesn't even make any sense.
	That seems like it's some sort of bizarre internal projection or something like this.
	It has nothing to do with comparing the attractiveness level of two people.
	Regardless of who Brian put up, whatever two human beings he put up, he should be able to make a determination on conventional attractiveness.
	I don't understand why the race would have anything to do with anything.
	But it's not just the race car.
	As we brought up earlier, you put up two men within the same, how you say, standards.
	Yeah, status, standard that look the same too.
	Like the two women you put up were very different and outside of the colours.
	Okay, so then let's do this.
	I'm in no way have the same status as Jonah Hill.
	Couldn't you make a comparison between status?
	Hang on, hang on.
	Couldn't you make a comparison right now between myself and Leonardo DiCaprio and say which one's more attractive?
	And it would be Leonardo DiCaprio.
	I mean, but your wife.
	What would your wife do?
	Yeah, see, so you bring, so it is a racial component.
	The whole idea here is for you, for some reason, the race makes some difference in the same way.
	We said, what would your wife think?
	Would your wife think that Leonardo DiCaprio is more attractive than you?
	Possibly.
	And the thing is, though, it's like, why would that even be improper to make that assessment?
	Do you think that people don't have eyeballs or that they can't be awesome?
	No, but wouldn't you want your wife to think that you're the most attractive man?
	They don't want to risk offense.
	Like, that seems silly to me.
	Wouldn't you want your wife to think you're the most attractive man?
	You know, it's not really.
	It's like, don't you want to also live in reality?
	Like, do you think I want my wife to lie to me?
	Do you think that I can't clearly see that there's more attractive men than me conventionally?
	And that I would know that since she has eyeballs, she would also understand that.
	And it's like, why do you think it would be some sort of great grace to me if she lied to me?
	In fact, in many ways, that would be detrimental.
	You know what I mean?
	Now, is there a good etiquette in not like drooling over other people when you're with your spouse?
	Well, of course, right?
	Of course, that's good etiquette.
	But it has nothing to do with the idea that you can't objectively assess a beauty standard of another human being.
	That doesn't mean you're going to go have sex with them or anything like that.
	It has nothing to do with that.
	Okay.
	So I don't really understand.
	I don't really understand on this.
	You're just asking about the conventional attractiveness.
	I don't even see why the racial component matters.
	How about we compare two girls that look a little more similar?
	I'm trying to find one, honestly, but it's although that, wouldn't that just be kind of like giving in to the race thing, I guess?
	It would be putting it on an even playing field like the Jonah.
	I mean, I'm literally trying to scroll.
	I'm trying to find like, okay, it has to be in the same.
	Like, okay, so I was trying to find like Grammy, two women.
	A skinny guy.
	Here, I have another one that I don't think you guys are going to enjoy, I guess.
	But, you know, Damien decided to.
	I kind of think the girl in the middle, not going to lie, like the girl in the middle.
	I love Sizza.
	I love Scissor.
	Yeah.
	But I love.
	You know, maybe.
	I think this is perfect.
	Can't argue this is.
	Is this good?
	I don't know.
	Is this okay?
	This is better.
	This is better.
	I'm going to pick Sizz.
	Also, too, just the same thing with the men.
	Like, I know these are celebrities.
	So, I have a background behind them already that I feel some type of way about them, or I have an opinion based on them already, opposed to the other two women that I didn't know at all.
	You know, and then Jonah Hill and Leonard DiCaprio, I've known their actors, they're famous.
	So, face-wise, who's the best?
	Sizza face.
	Face car only.
	Taylor's face.
	Sizza does have a lot of face.
	In this picture, Lizzo's face is nice.
	Taylor's head is kind of turned to the side.
	Yeah, and Sizz isn't in the best position.
	So we're just going off face.
	Lizzo got a pretty face.
	You just got Lizo.
	Lizzo does have a pretty fairy.
	Look at that smile.
	Too much eyeshadow, though.
	You know, I'm not a fan of the shape, but she ain't ugly in the face.
	She's lost a lot more weight now, too.
	That's a long way to go.
	I think they're gorgeous.
	Alright.
	Taylor was dressed the best.
	I'll give her the best dress.
	We couldn't even say that.
	Taylor also has the most money.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	I thought you guys don't care about that.
	I don't.
	I thought men don't care about success.
	Billionaires get a pass.
	Right.
	Billionaires get a pass.
	All right.
	Techno Trooper.
	We have him coming in.
	Anissa, can you read it?
	How do dating apps reinforce their culture where 10% of men receive the majority of attention?
	Maybe the rest of the face are undervalued.
	Reinforce a culture where 10% of men receive the majority of attention.
	How do dating apps reinforce a culture of that?
	I mean, I'm confused.
	I mean, it's always been the case that, like, the hypergamous nature of women, right?
	But, like, it's been under, it's much more pronounced because of the global sexual marketplace with social media, Instagram, and dating apps.
	Where, you know, if you were limited to your geographic region, like people would typically pair off one-to-one.
	But now, women have access to like average woman in Idaho can hop on a dating app or Instagram and get, you know, maybe not average, but if she's like really good looking in Idaho, she can get flown out to LA, Miami, Vegas, some dude out there.
	So totally changes it.
	Yeah.
	Techno Trooper, I do appreciate the message, though.
	We have Hugo here, Cope.
	And he says they need to find a way to excuse it's just BDGs bringing to race is being racist.
	Yo, Hugo, thank you for the super chats too.
	Appreciate it.
	We need to get into the pre-show notes here, move things along a little bit.
	We have, we talked about the Luigi shit.
	We have Ninzi.
	That's you, right?
	Hi.
	In your Instagram bio, it says there's flower, female, there's a flower emoji and then like a fart cloud or a cloud of smoke.
	Smoke.
	Smoke.
	Flowers.
	Oh.
	Flower and female advocate.
	And you're a and a female advocate.
	What is that?
	What is a female advocate?
	So I stand for like women's rights and passing cannabis and its healing benefits.
	So no, so ignoring the flower part, I'm just the female party.
	So you just want to talk about the female part?
	The female advocate part.
	What do you mean?
	Speaking so, I started a blog that teaches women safety aspects and things to look for to protect themselves or certain stigmas, too, that are becoming a norm that women feel they're supposed to be subjectified or looked at, perceived this way or, you know.
	What ways?
	And, like, I don't know, like, being taught, like, certain things happen to you are okay, and it might not be, like, being talked down to or...
	like who thinks talking down to women is okay?
	A lot of people do in the south and coming from like an Asian culture too, like women were put down.
	Yeah, women were put down.
	And like if you have more than two daughters, like one of them gets killed because they want to keep the ratio of women down.
	Yeah, like China, for like, who does that today in Asian culture?
	Yeah, growing up she's.
	I mean, she's right, it's 100% true.
	In China, the one child policy they favored.
	Men are crazy.
	Yeah yeah, and I know men still talk down upon girls, because I was talking to a guy once and he was just like coming to the conclusion that all girls are broke and all girls are stupid.
	I mean, a lot of women think all men need to do better, and you know what I'm saying.
	Like I think that's just a people thing.
	I don't think it's a female, male thing.
	I think a lot of women say every day how you have women saying you can't take me to Cheesecake fucking Factory.
	You know what I'm saying.
	So women talk down to men a lot.
	So I don't, I don't think that's just something that happens to women.
	I think more women are talking down to men than it is men talking down to women.
	I think the men that are talking down is in response to years of being talked down by this, the women in society.
	I think it's the other way around.
	I feel like women are finally now, after being talked down for so long, are now like because women's rights and everything that's been a new thing from like the 1900s that were like brought into and we're still fighting for a lot of our rights.
	Which rights are those?
	Our right to vote started.
	We didn't get all the rights one.
	Let's do one at a time uh, so okay, right to vote.
	Women secured the right to the vote in the 1920s.
	That's over a century ago, I know, but how long have we as humans been alive and women weren't allowed?
	How long have men been allowed to vote?
	Why don't you tell me what that is?
	Since they started it, I believe.
	Since they don't.
	Since the voting men men were only given the right to vote about 20 years before women, as gender, men or women.
	Um, who started the right to vote?
	Who decided okay, voting is going to be a thing?
	People in power well, initially.
	Well initially, who were?
	I'll explain it to you.
	You didn't think they were queens.
	So initially initially, the way that the nation was set up as a republic was not that people were supposed to be voting at all.
	Right, so that that wasn't how it was set up.
	There was no universal suffrage.
	Men only got the right to vote about 20 years before women roughly, and that was only in some select places.
	So it was never universalized to men or women.
	So the the idea that women have been conventionally oppressed over men is silly.
	The the nation wasn't set up that way.
	It was set up instead where your officials would actually do the voting.
	That was, that was the way it was supposed to be set up.
	But they are all Men.
	Yeah, at that time, who were allowed to be selected officials?
	White men.
	Yeah, well, hang on.
	You say men, but it's actually, you're actually incorrect there, too.
	It couldn't be any man.
	It would have to be a select.
	So in this case, usually it was people who were stakeholders.
	They were landholders or this type of thing.
	They had to have select characteristics.
	So it wasn't just men.
	When you say men, you put them in a monolith.
	Almost no man has ever had power in history.
	Almost none.
	Almost zero.
	A lot of men.
	It's a small group of men.
	I mean, as compared to males, but most men don't have power.
	It's just that the seat of power is often set by a man, but that doesn't mean that's what we're doing.
	We have a chart here, actually, if you can go ahead and pull that up.
	So this is countries with universal right to vote.
	This does not consider elections not being held, informal restrictions or legal restrictions based on age, criminal conviction, disability, and local residency.
	So at the bottom there, you have the year, and they're tracking this back to the late 1700s.
	Brown indicates no universal right to vote.
	Light blue indicates universal right to vote for men only.
	And the blue is universal right to vote for men and women.
	There's a very, very short period of time in history where only men had the right to vote for the vast majority of history.
	When we're talking about the general populace, men did not have the right to vote.
	And one thing, essentially, none of the people.
	Isn't that a 50-year gap?
	A 50-year gap?
	Yeah, can I see the chart again?
	Sure.
	Because he said it's only been 20 or 30 years, but it's like definitely for the world.
	He's talking about America.
	No, no, no.
	He said 20 to 50 years, I mean, 20 to 30 years between men and women.
	In America.
	Yeah, in the United States.
	Oh, this is universal.
	Okay, okay.
	But one thing I've noticed with women is like, y'all will talk about the right to do something, but you're not thorough with that right.
	For example, right?
	It seems like women just want to participate just for this, just to say that we can do it too.
	But when it comes to exercising the thoroughness of that right, they don't do it.
	So in other words, you ask a man why he voted for something, he'll break down legislation, he'll break down policy.
	When you ask a woman, why does she vote?
	It's for something very superficial.
	So a lot of women seem like they fight for certain rights, but just to say they have them, not actually being an active participant in the thoroughness of the responsibility.
	It's like they just want a participation trophy just to say it's like when you got a kid that just wants to play with you.
	You give your kid, your kid, so you want a cell phone.
	So you give them a cell phone with no battery just so they can feel like they're on the phone, but they really ain't talking or calling nobody.
	It's like advocating.
	And I don't think there's anything wrong with women.
	I'm talking about voting.
	Like voting.
	Like most women, when they vote, they don't never know why they voted.
	But I think that's a lot of people.
	A lot of America and a lot of the world isn't educated to be holy what they're no you're right but that seems like more men are because like and it seems like men when men are speaking about voting they're speaking about something that benefits the many it seems like women get involved in voting strictly for the benefits of women only so to me If you're getting into these positions just to focus on one gender, that's not even a leadership attribute because a leader looks after the whole.
	It seems like when women get power, they look after women.
	And I think that's probably why they were prohibited from a lot of things because y'all just see your side and your gender.
	You don't look at the group.
	Like, even for example, right?
	I don't mean to talk too much, but there was a Ice Cube was on a show called Cocktails with the Queens.
	It was Vivica Fox.
	There was, I think, Selena Johnson, Lisa Ray, and like another woman.
	So this was around the time when Biden and Trump was going at it a couple years ago.
	So Ice Cube was contacted by two political parties.
	He said the Democrats contacted me because Ice Cube made a plan called the Plan for Black America.
	So he said the Democrats said, we'll help you with your plan after we get in office.
	He said Trump and the Republicans reached out to him and said, hey, we want to implement your plan now.
	So when he was speaking this to black women, he was saying, hey, this is a plan for black people.
	And black people include black men, black women, black boys, black girls.
	But the black women on the show said, hey, that sounds good, but what's in it for us?
	So the fact that a man is saying, I'm getting legislation pushed for black people, and women heard that and still distinguish themselves from the group to focus solely on themselves to me speaks to a pathology where women, when they get a taste of power, they're not thinking about the many.
	They're just thinking about themselves.
	Yeah, because we live in a patriarchal society where we're already way more oppressed than men.
	How are you oppressed?
	You're able to do whatever the hell you want to do.
	We got to take one thing at a time.
	Let's bring it back.
	We'll get into the patriarchy.
	We'll get into the oppression.
	You said that you're in the female advocacy.
	So you said women's right to, or I'm trying to remember the.
	We started with the right to vote and then now coming on right you spoke on education.
	Okay, okay.
	Oh, education.
	So do you realize that like when it comes to college education, there's like, I think the breakdown is 60% women, 40% men.
	So is this evidence of oppression towards men?
	This is a now thing.
	These are things that are.
	No, it's been since the 1980s.
	But prior to that, women have surpassed men when it comes to.
	Because you gave us the opportunity, we ran with it.
	We were like, okay, now we've got to do it.
	Oh, okay.
	Just to be clear, so is your position when there's a discrepancy and this discrepancy negatively impacts women in some conceivable way, or there's less representation of women in a field or in some beneficial metric, that's evidence of sexism, patriarchy, oppression.
	But when men are either overrepresentative, overrepresented in a negative component or underrepresented in like a positive sense, then that's just not sexism, not oppression.
	Oppression is when it's forced against somebody and it's like what's forced.
	Or it's like it's stated like they're not allowed to do this or you can't do that or not allowing somebody to be yeah women have been allowed to go to these and that's why now we're doing so great women he just said 60% of women just because you're doing great there's women that graduate that is great though don't statistics show that like women graduate Way more than men, and women are more educated than that.
	But I'm talking about, I'm talking about demographics, not just knowing one person.
	But what I'm saying is this: statistics, graduating doesn't equate to success.
	I know people success to some people.
	It depends on what you went to school for.
	If you go to school for a bachelor's degree in African-American studies, you're going to make more less money than a dude with a GED and a CDL.
	So women leaning on getting a degree to me speaks to our participation trophy.
	You judge a tree by the fruit it bears.
	If you got a degree and you're making $100,000, great.
	But if you don't got a degree and you're making $100,000, that's great too.
	So getting a degree doesn't mean anything if it hasn't propelled your life.
	It's another topic that you're going to get.
	And most women get degrees and don't know what to do.
	Can you pull up the Discord?
	You're going to click on the first college one.
	All right.
	Percentage of U.S. population who have completed four years of college or more from 1940 to 2021.
	So that the change occurred.
	Wait, hold on.
	Percent.
	Wait, hold on.
	Looks like it's going.
	Oh, who have completed?
	Okay, so this isn't like on a yearly basis.
	This is like in totality.
	So it's counting people who graduated in like 1940.
	There's a different graph that it'll show that'll indicate starting in 1980, there were more women starting in about 1980 that started going to college than men.
	Pull up the next graph.
	You can just use the arrows.
	U.S. college degrees by gender.
	So female 58, male 41.
	Next.
	This is enrollment.
	So looking at 2014 is the most recent one for this one.
	7.5 million males, 9.6, so 2 million more females.
	Back in 2014, that number is even higher, or there's a bigger difference.
	Massive.
	U.S. college enrollment by gender.
	So yeah, you do see the flip in 1980.
	This is on a yearly basis.
	Next, men and women study different things.
	This is kind of important.
	Next.
	Total number of students.
	Oh, this is for the local university, UCSB.
	Women, 61.
	I think it's the local university.
	61% here in Santa Barbara, 39% men.
	Next.
	Percentage of all college degrees, 1980.
	1981 was the switch.
	Next.
	Women have gone to show to done better in school than men.
	And this is for the University of California system, UC.
	So this is the gender ratios.
	Blue is male, red is female.
	With the exception of the University of California, Santa Cruz, or no, sorry, there's also UCSD also slightly more, but you have pretty big discrepancies there.
	So education, I mean, women are doing fine when it comes to education.
	Do we want to talk about body rights?
	Huh?
	Do we want to talk about our rights and the laws being put against you?
	Sure, let's talk about it.
	Yeah, so what right does a man have?
	Can I just very quickly also tell you that women have always conventionally done better academically than men since we've been keeping tabs on it since the late 1700s?
	That has been the case.
	They've always academically done better.
	But let me explain to you why that is.
	It's because right now, about 90% of women who are in women's studies get A's, right?
	But if you move them into like a mathematic pursuit or something like this, it drops down at about 40, 45% who get A's.
	So essentially, when you're talking about soft sciences, psychology, sociology, the humanities, things like this, these are all arts degrees.
	And so it's far easier to get graded well inside of those types of degrees.
	Whereas if you're in a pursuit which requires some type of actual scientific rigorism, it's much more difficult.
	And so that's why you see a lot of that discrepancy.
	So going back to the rights, I guess my question is, what is a right that the man has that the woman doesn't in the United States?
	Today.
	You know, I haven't looked deep into laws like that.
	I can't state one, but I do believe they don't have one against their body saying you can't do certain things with your body.
	I mean, you're honestly.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	You're a female advocate.
	Okay.
	I mean, but you haven't done the research on the type of advocacy you're trying to do.
	No, I have like, you know, stayed up with laws and things like that, but nothing recently that's been passed stating that men can't do or can't use their body in certain ways.
	No, so the quote, I'm just asking, so what is a right that a man has?
	Because you said women's rights.
	Well, what is the right in which that you're trying to equalize?
	Not trying to equalize one.
	We're talking about, we brought it back to abortion laws, correct?
	Okay.
	Okay, so that's the only one?
	That was the one.
	When it comes to a right.
	So is your position men have bodily autonomy, women don't?
	Is that your position?
	Not that I've, like, heard.
	Okay, so there's something about men and like what they're what they're not allowed to do with their with their body.
	I'm can you I'm trying to understand.
	I'm focusing on when I brought up abortion laws.
	I'm stating how what was the word we used earlier?
	Advocacy.
	No, that's not the word I'm thinking of.
	Right.
	Bodily autonomy.
	No, no, you guys are just throwing words at me and confusing me.
	When you're not allowed to do something, right?
	A right?
	I can't think of the word.
	I'm blinking it.
	Right of prohibition?
	No, you guys are just throwing words at me now.
	It's making a difference.
	Okay, we'll be here.
	We'll be quiet for the 10 seconds.
	No, we're good at the 10 seconds that we're going to be doing.
	It can give you 10 seconds without any interruption.
	But like stating that, like, you know, how, what is a man to say what a woman's allowed to do with her body?
	What do you think?
	Outside of abortion, what are you talking about?
	No, that's what I was talking about.
	But you can.
	Okay, so I'm happy that that conversation, but is there, aside from that, is there any right that the man has that woman doesn't?
	Not that I can think of the top of my head.
	Okay, you can't think of it, but do you think that there is?
	Or is that the only thing?
	That a man has a right to do that a woman doesn't?
	No, is there a right that a man has that a woman doesn't?
	Aside from that?
	Here in the U.S.?
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay.
	So when it comes to reproductive rights, that has to do with bodily autonomy.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, doing a comparison when it comes to bodily autonomy, although these are like somewhat different, men also, although this is completely different, you're talking about abortion, right?
	From the government down, when it comes to bodily autonomy, there's forced military conscription, which women are exempt from.
	So there's actually a more compelling argument that men are oppressed under the purview of the state or the government when it comes to bodily autonomy.
	And also, because there's no law preventing, for example, circumcision, there's a much greater argument when it comes to male bodily autonomy because children don't have the capacity to deny when their single mom is giving birth to them in the hospital and the single mom wants to have their child circumcised, the child can't protect them.
	So there ought to be some sort of law that prevents children from getting circumcised.
	So that's why the men should be against men as there is women.
	What do you mean?
	Like that there should be laws regarding just with women's bodies as well as men's bodies, what they're allowed to do.
	Well, I'm saying that, you know, there's, when it comes to bodily autonomy, the state actually has, there's arguably more oppression towards men when it comes to bodily autonomy because nobody's forcing you to have sex and get pregnant.
	Sex.
	I mean, what if they were like a vaped?
	Yeah, sure.
	So how about this?
	Let's have, yeah, some of them.
	Very often.
	Okay, cool.
	So if I'm prepared to say that abortion is totally cool in the event of incest, rape, oh shit, grape.
	Sorry, my bad.
	Grape or the life of the mother, you guys are totally 100% against all other abortions.
	One more time.
	Reckless behavior.
	Okay.
	So, absolutely.
	Some women get grapes, or there's incest or whatever, or perhaps the life of the mother is at risk.
	And if I'm going to go ahead and say, yes, abortion in those instances is totally okay.
	Are you guys prepared to agree that it's wrong in all the other instances?
	No.
	Okay.
	So, and you do realize that when it does come to abortion, most of these women are using, are getting abortions for basically as birth control.
	Like, they're having consensus.
	That's some.
	No, it's the 99% of abortions.
	How do you know?
	How do you know most women are getting pregnant from getting graped?
	Okay, first of all, there's statistics that prove that.
	And then I believe there's a lot of people.
	So hold on.
	So let's be clear now.
	So you're telling me that most women who get abortions.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I'm not saying most women that get abortions.
	I'm not saying that.
	No, we're talking about abortions.
	I'm just saying there's a lot of.
	I'm saying, but most women that get abortions, they're not getting them because they were graped.
	They're getting them because they don't want to be tied to that man.
	But that's not necessarily true.
	There's other states of like the body, right?
	The health and the life of the woman.
	Yeah, we established that.
	So this is the graph we pulled up for school.
	There's a graph for percentages on how many women did get graped, how many women did get the health and wellness of the body.
	Here's the stat.
	Who knows the majority?
	Okay, yeah, let's say that's 0.5%.
	Wow.
	What's the stat for that?
	Like, what is that?
	I just told you, 0.5% who are victims of grape.
	And that's right.
	But that's reported because there's a lot that's not reported.
	Yeah, but not all women who got grapes end up pregnant.
	Pregnancy.
	Hang on, hang on.
	When you do a study for self-reporting, you add in the control that there's going to be unreported amounts of X.
	So they're adjusting for how many people are not reporting to come up with this number.
	It's actually way less people than 0.5% who reported it due to grape.
	The reason it raises that high is because they're adjusting for the amount who have not reported, who are estimated to have reported based on the number who have.
	That's a good thing.
	If somebody just wants to get an abortion because they don't want to have a baby because of what they're doing in their life right now, I feel like that's completely okay.
	But I'm just going to give you the rest of the percentage.
	Woman's life was endangered.
	You don't?
	It's 0.27%.
	There was a serious fetal abnormality.
	It's 1%.
	Woman's physical health threatened by the pregnancy, 1%.
	That's it.
	And if we do that.
	The entirety of all of these pregnancies you're talking about.
	So you're saying 98% of them don't fall within that category.
	That's a huge discrepancy.
	But in any case, we were talking about rights.
	Number one, hang on.
	Number one reason, not financially prepared.
	Okay.
	40%.
	Not a good time, 36%.
	Issues with the partner, 31%.
	Need to focus on other children, 29%.
	Almost none of it is in regards to the health and welfare of the body.
	But what percent of that is also partnered, right?
	Like the woman's just not making that decision on her own to go.
	Most of them are because I know more women.
	Put like this: if y'all got pregnant, and if you didn't want to keep it, can that man convince you to keep it?
	Maybe if it's a good partner.
	But most of the time, I'm saying, but if it's a good partner, you wouldn't think about getting pregnant.
	Most of the time, majority of the time, going based off women that you know, because that is not an accurate representation of like the large majority of people.
	We just got the data.
	So how many women you know got pregnant from getting graped?
	Exactly.
	I'm not going to share that.
	Because you know that ain't what's happening.
	I definitely know a friend that got assaulted and got pregnant and got an abortion.
	But okay.
	Just so you know, the stats also say that most women who are SA'd, and this is trad, nobody's saying that this isn't horrific.
	It is.
	It's horrific.
	And I hope that those men get punished greatly, thrown in prison forever, or given the electric chair.
	I'm fine with all of those options.
	But most women who are SA do actually end up having the baby, just so you know.
	Most of them do.
	So the thing is, by their own choice, interestingly enough.
	The amount of women who seek out abortive services for SA is extraordinarily small.
	Like I said, 0.5% by reports.
	And look, going back to the thing, we were talking about rights.
	I'm not really super interested in going heavy into some sort of abortion discussion, but we were talking about rights.
	And so while I already went ahead and granted, like in those situations, sure, okay, go ahead, get an abortion.
	But like most of these women are not given abortions for those reasons.
	So it's not clear to me, like, it's just irresponsibility or whatever it is.
	Well, don't you?
	So you're saying, oh.
	But so the government, here's the thing: the government isn't forcing you to have sex and to get pregnant.
	Whereas when it comes to male bodily autonomy issues, while the government doesn't force hospitals to do circumcisions, this is sort of like the de facto, the status quo when it comes to like children, male boys, babies in hospitals.
	Yeah, without their informed consent, they have their penises mutilated upon birth.
	I would suspect actually most of the women here at this table, if you were ever to become like pregnant and the father wasn't involved, you would probably end up circumcising, translation, mutilating the genitals of your baby boy.
	That's a whole other thing.
	Secondly, when it comes to forced military conscription, that is state down.
	So the state can force you to go to war and die or be in some sort of military conflict that you have no interest in being a part of that you didn't contribute at all to.
	18-year-old guy in Kentucky.
	I think they have that for women now.
	I was about to say women can't go to war.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, trust me.
	I'm 100% sure.
	I'm not thinking about that.
	Stating that, like, so women can't get it.
	Where's your selective service card?
	Okay, you have one?
	That's a thing.
	Hang on, this is totally fair.
	Can I see?
	This is a totally fair thing to show.
	You said you had one.
	I was like, I don't know what that is.
	I want to know.
	I have a single question.
	Raise your hand if you have a driver's license.
	Okay, great.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	When you went down and you got your driver's license at the DMV, did they ask you if you wanted to register to vote?
	Yep.
	Did they sign you up for the selective services?
	No.
	Was it ever?
	The way that I know that they didn't sign you up for the selective services is because men cannot sign up to vote unless they sign up for the selective services.
	Simple.
	Learn something new every day.
	That's interesting.
	I don't know.
	Well, here, I can show you this.
	So this is a you can handle this.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, you can get this at the post office.
	It's a selective service at the top.
	You see how it says men 18 to 25.
	Here, I'll put it to the maybe we can do it like this.
	Hold on.
	We'll go here.
	Boom.
	Men, 18 to 25.
	And then if you open up, there is here.
	That's the registration there.
	And I'll read the card.
	It says, who has to, I think it says who has to.
	So can I register?
	Just one sec.
	Where does it say it?
	What happens if I don't register?
	Not registering is a felony.
	Young men convicted of failure to register may be fined up to $250,000, imprisoned for up to five years or both.
	In addition to being subject to prosecution, failure to register may cause you to permanently forfeit eligibility for certain benefits.
	You have a question?
	So as we're speaking on women's rights and what we fight for, right?
	If you don't agree with that, why don't you guys fight for the opposite of it?
	Well, because we have a problem.
	So here's our problem.
	The problem is in our quest for egalitarianism, we forgot that there's only some roles that one sex can do and that the other can't.
	For instance, women can have children and men can't.
	That's just a brute fact that nobody can do anything about.
	And only men can fight in frontline combat and women really can't do that.
	We don't have any GI Janes.
	We don't have any female Navy SEALs.
	We don't have any because even though it's been open to them for many, many, many years, they can't actually cut the mustard to do it.
	They are not equipped physically to take on those roles.
	But we do need to have a military.
	We need to have frontline combat soldiers if we need them in case our country gets invaded.
	And we may have to take those out of the pool of people who are particularly unwilling, but know that it is part of their duty.
	And so because of that, we don't really have an option to tell men ultimately that they can't be drafted because we won't have a nation.
	It would weaken our nation so significantly that we may not even have one.
	So the thing is, is that this is a higher duty that men have.
	So where's the higher duty that women have?
	Where is it?
	Giving birth, like you stated.
	Ah, giving birth.
	So then that would say that there's some duty there.
	If there's a duty there for me, if I get drafted to go fight, how come there's no duty for you if you get pregnant to have the child?
	If it's only a thing you can do.
	It's only a thing you can do and I can't.
	But yet here's this thing only I can do and you can't.
	Yet I would be required to go.
	Where's your requirement?
	Don't men get like rewarded for going to war and stuff like that?
	Women are killed.
	They get blown to bits.
	Yeah, they get killed.
	Here's what they don't always do.
	They get shot.
	They get shot.
	That's a reward.
	They get shot.
	They get blown to bits.
	They get tortured.
	That's not everybody.
	War camps.
	Horrible things happen to them.
	They have massive psychological damage from life.
	That's what happens.
	That's what happens.
	By the way, here's what the nation often does.
	If they need you bad enough for war, they'll conscript you with no pay.
	If they can't afford to pay you, sometimes you'll go eight months without a paycheck and your family suffers for it.
	Yes, men definitely get the raw end of the stick.
	When it comes to being drafted, it's a higher duty.
	We have to follow that higher duty.
	Where's your higher duty?
	What is it?
	Can I add something to that?
	Because he's right.
	But you notice how when we provide you actual data of what happens, you go and find the minority of what contradicts what we say.
	But when it comes to women, you find the minority and make that the majority of what we're saying.
	It's like whatever we say, you go to the other side.
	It's like no, we just gave you, hold on, we just gave you a chart from the data because you said bring up the data.
	We brought it.
	Less than 1% of the population of women did these things based on being assaulted.
	Most men, a lot of men die in the army, but you want to avoid all those men that die just to focus on the ones that don't, just to win an argument.
	That's why I feel like a lot of times in this position, women have been sold a false image and they call it feminism, but it's really them dumbing down your natural ability and power of being feminine to really compare yourself to men.
	So it's like it's not really a feminist thing.
	They're trying to, they devalue what's powerful to you, which is the ability to have children, the ability to be a supporter.
	That's powerful.
	But women have been tricked to thinking that the only way to express power in force is by being a man.
	I think we just found other ways to enforce our power and also, like...
	What?
	Y'all brought up school.
	You brought up masculine things.
	Like, what's something feminist?
	What's masculine?
	I mean, knowledge is very universal.
	Yeah, depending on what you're doing.
	But if you use the knowledge to focus on yourself, knowledge is only power when you use it to help the many.
	What do women do that besides giving birth?
	Because besides, it's a lot of, because put like this, a man doesn't have to have, his value goes beyond being somebody's mate.
	A man could be single his whole life, but works in a field that powers houses for hundreds of people, that works in certain fields that affect hundreds of thousands of people.
	We know that there's always an anomaly.
	We're talking about what happens most of the time.
	I mean, majority, there's working class, like if you're saying levels, right?
	There's working class men, there's working class women, there's people who have done extraordinary things that are both men and women.
	We understand that.
	We got all the data.
	We did a chart.
	We showed a chart.
	All these hard jobs that the infrastructure of society is dependent on, 94 to 99% of them were done by men.
	So men have a value to the world outside of being with the woman.
	So outside of giving birth, and for the most cases, what do most women do that benefit the many?
	Like the jobs y'all got, do they benefit others besides yourself?
	Yeah, taking care of the old, taking care of the elderly.
	That's true.
	In village time and like before modernization, men would go hunt, gather, farm.
	But I'm talking about today.
	Women would stay and take care of the place and watch.
	Which most women don't want to do no more.
	Which most women don't want to do no more.
	If most women didn't want to do it, then I feel like it would be way more kids in foster care and foster homes.
	There's a lot of kids in foster homes.
	And there is, and there is.
	I know.
	Okay.
	And I know that, but I'm saying, like, how can you say most women aren't doing that and women are sick?
	Because women literally fought for the right to not do that.
	They fought for the right to be like men.
	They don't want to be in the house.
	There's a few things here that are actually incorrect suppositions.
	So the thing is, is that, for one thing, all 100% of children who are given up for adoption at birth in the United States are adopted.
	100%.
	All of them.
	Every single one of them.
	But like I said, there's actually a waiting list.
	There's actually a waiting list that's a mile long for people who want to adopt more children.
	So that's one.
	The idea here, though, is that actually women are having less and less children because they factor in education during their reproductive years, which is going to be in their 20s, roughly.
	That's their primary reproductive years.
	And so if you focus on education during those years, you end up with less children.
	Women are getting married now in their 30s.
	Well, the average age is 31, in fact.
	That's going to limit the amount of children necessarily that the average woman is going to have, which is why we have 1.6 children for every two people in the United States, which means we can't reproduce our own population.
	Women are having way, way less children.
	There's no higher duty anymore to do that.
	2024?
	I'm not sure.
	But the question with that then, I think we're looking at, you know, abortion in a different, in a different viewpoint of things, right?
	We are very overpopulated in the world, too.
	Like, there's other aspects in life that you look at.
	You could fit the entire population of the world in Texas and they would each get a square acre.
	The truth is, is that we're not in any way, shape, or form overpopulated.
	Here's the truth.
	What's going on is in the 1970s and even before that in the 60s, there was a massive campaign which was done, which made the bold claim that humanity was going to starve if we didn't stop or if we didn't stop the reproduction which was happening.
	Books like the population bomb were dropped all over Africa and all over the Middle East and all over India saying that this was what was going to happen.
	In fact, actually the opposite happened.
	It turns out as you have more hands, you can end up multiplying the amount of work you can do.
	And effectively, because of the high population that we have, starvation globally almost eradicated.
	It's almost completely eradicated.
	Nobody in the United States right this second or in Canada, right, or in any European nation and in most other nations actually will starve unless it's by choice.
	It's almost impossible.
	In fact, if you were starving right this second, if you hadn't eaten in five days, you could go to your local emergency room and they will feed you.
	It's a matter of policy.
	You will get fed.
	You can't actually starve to death unless it's by choice or abuse.
	That's the only way it can even be done.
	The opposite happened.
	Our food production went through the roof.
	Does it feel to you like you don't have enough goods at your disposal?
	No, the opposite.
	Right now, you can order something from India, have it here in four days.
	Well, think about the process.
	That takes the factory in India, right?
	After that, after all the hands craft that, then there's the logistics of it.
	They have to get it on a plane.
	Someone's got to fly that plane, right?
	They got to fly it and they got to land it in an airport.
	It takes tons of people in order to guide that plane in.
	And then you got to put it in a truck and then that goes to a warehouse and then it gets dispersed from there locally and et cetera, et cetera.
	More hands actually creates a huge amount more work which can be done.
	And that's the only reason in modernity population can even exist like we do.
	Nobody's starving.
	You have ready-made goods at your disposal.
	That's all because of the high population.
	If we had a downsizing of the population, which is where we're heading, that's when we're going to start seeing catastrophes.
	They call it a population collapse.
	Then you don't have enough hands on deck to do work.
	Like, think about this.
	If you're on Desert Island, would you rather have 15 people there or two people there?
	You'd rather have 15.
	You're going to get a lot more work done.
	Your survival is definitely going to increase drastically.
	So the thing is, is like that's the way it is in the world too.
	Generally, more people actually solves more problems than it hurts.
	Dark Oman42 donated $200.
	I've worked construction for 25 plus years, and at most there's one woman on a job site of 40 guys.
	The most I've ever seen was 10 or 15 on a job site of 300 plus people.
	It's a very small percentage even today.
	Dark Omen, thank you for the TTS, man.
	I do really appreciate it.
	I do have to move things along a little bit here.
	I want to.
	How about this?
	Going to your next note, you said you love traditional dating, being treated like a lady, and not having to worry about anything, but doing modern things.
	Modern dating to me is a little stressful or too basic.
	Nobody wants to Netflix and chill.
	What do you mean?
	So when I said modern dating stuff, like modern activities, like oh, like mini golf.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	And you said you want to get to know the person you're spending time with.
	You love traditional dating, being treated like a lady.
	Going around the table, do you also like traditional dating, being treated like a lady?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	You said yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are you, would you consider yourselves traditional women?
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	I can be.
	What do you mean?
	Because I, you know, we grow up in a modern age, right?
	We're part of the modern age.
	So we know what it is to date modern and live in the society.
	But I was taught traditional ways and things that you do.
	And then what about you?
	Yeah.
	Some aspects.
	Okay.
	So what are, can you guys list for me?
	What are some of the things like when you say you love traditional dating and being treated like a lady?
	Can you maybe give me like two or three things that you might expect from a guy when it comes to traditional dating?
	To keep it simple, like open the door for me.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Open the door.
	Yeah, plan the date, initiate.
	And yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Also, real quick, Brian, sorry.
	I don't mean to cut in.
	I just want to make the correction.
	I said it was one acre per person in Texas.
	It's 0.2 acres.
	My bad.
	Just wanted to correct it.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Providing protection, chivalry, like being romantic.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think just not being so handsy so fast, right?
	It's like the first date, and a guy's like trying to grab your titties.
	You said the question was the aspects in traditional dating.
	Yeah, like you said, being treated like a lady, you love traditional dating.
	So, what are some of the things that a guy would do to do that?
	Like, she said, open the car door, paying for the date, this sort of thing.
	Leading, leading, definitely leading.
	And taking it slow, too.
	I feel like, you know, getting to know somebody.
	Like, we've talked about three dates, like a couple dates.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Courting.
	I like that word.
	Okay.
	Being provider and like opening door, being romantic.
	Okay.
	And so what, I guess, are you doing in exchange for this?
	Like, what are you doing that's traditional?
	And how are you treating him like a gentleman?
	Are we going to just randomly talk or?
	Well, how about we start here?
	Well, it feels my man's after a long day of work.
	I'll massage you.
	Can you make sure you come home to a clean home?
	This smells good.
	Home-cooked meal.
	Okay.
	Lots of love.
	Sure.
	I would say the same thing.
	Cooking, cleaning.
	I would say the same thing.
	Cooking, cleaning.
	Like, if my man wants me to rub his feet, I'm going to rub his feet, give him a massage.
	What about you?
	What was the question?
	It's her.
	Me?
	Oh, yeah.
	Caretaking.
	If it is a relationship, if it's just starting and courting again.
	Yeah, so the beginning.
	Definitely, I think, like, there's like certain things like when they open the door for you outside, you open it for them inside.
	Like, there's certain things that you can like reciprocate back and forth.
	Yeah, it's the first one coming to my head right now.
	Okay, what about you?
	I think just like listening to him, listening to his problems, here.
	I'll give you a couple prompts on this.
	Will you take your husband's last name?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I've been in debate about it, but traditionally, I'm starting to think I will.
	What's the debate?
	My last name holds a lot of meaning to me.
	And so for a long time, I didn't really even believe in marriage.
	My aunt's a lawyer, and she likes most divorces or most marriages.
	I don't want to get married, though, right?
	I do.
	And so my fight with myself was: do I keep and hold the history of my last name, right?
	Or do I go the traditional way?
	Like, my big thought was, like, okay, where's their standpoint on it?
	If he's okay with it and he understands my decision, then I would love to be able to.
	But if it is a topic of discussion and he is, you know, like it's a make or break deal.
	Yeah.
	I want to have that conversation.
	Okay.
	Yes, you take his last name.
	And just really quick, should the guy pay for the first date?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	If you're asking me, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	If you're asking me to go, yeah.
	You said there would be a conversation.
	Here's the conversation.
	Hey, babe, you're taking my last name.
	Is there a conversation after that?
	Yeah.
	What's the conversation?
	Like, what is the meaning to you?
	Like, why is it?
	I'm a traditional man.
	This is the tradition.
	What other conversation needs to be had?
	I mean, is it going to be on paper?
	Is it just in display?
	Like, is it just an idea of the case?
	You're going to get a legal name.
	Do I have to legally change it on paperwork now for everything?
	You're going to get a legal name change to my last name.
	We're not going to hyphenate.
	And the children are going to have my last name.
	Children are understandable.
	Yeah, you do.
	But can, you know, in change again, am I allowed to keep?
	That's what we call hyphen, right?
	That's really, that's really actually kind of weird, though.
	The hyphen where it's like really long.
	No, if you wanted to keep your last name because it's that important to you, that the namesake itself be kept, why would you allow the children to have a different last name?
	Because wouldn't your name still die with you?
	True, but to me, it's a, you know, it's a main thing to me.
	I hold My children and stuff like that, kind of in the same viewpoint as the like the circumcision, right?
	It's not our decision.
	It's not my decision.
	I can't really make that all the way.
	It is with the parent.
	It is with my spouse.
	And like in a traditional way, I would want them to take the last name.
	But if the name is so important that you wouldn't want to change it because you think it should live on, is the idea here.
	Why?
	I think in a traditional man at this point, I don't know if you can.
	If you want to also have the last name, it's going to die with you.
	I don't even understand how important it is.
	It's meaningful.
	It's not just going to die with you anyway.
	It's meaningful to me.
	And if my kids later on learn my understanding of what it meant to me and they decide they want to take that moving forward or they want to change their name and keep my last name too, they can do that.
	So how long is this conversation going to be?
	Because I've already told you, I want our kids to have my last name.
	That's it.
	The kids, fine.
	But the original conversation.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yes.
	You're taking my last name too.
	So if it's a bait, we're already getting married.
	I said yes to you, then I'll most likely take the last name.
	But if you have.
	Most likely, this is, I don't want to get married to you.
	This is like something that's very important to me.
	And I'm going to have to take some more time to think about it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, when I'm on a first date with you, I'm going to have to take some time and see if we got to go 50-50.
	But this isn't.
	And you can open your own car door.
	I'm taking the last night.
	You can open your own car door and you can do.
	We can be 50-50 until you decide whether you're going to take my last name.
	But why would you ask me?
	But the first date and marriage isn't.
	Sorry.
	But you said you love your name.
	First date and marriage, you're not on the same moment.
	You said you love traditional dating and being treated like a lady.
	Why aren't you treating your man like a man, like a gentleman?
	There's other ways to treat you like a man and show that you're.
	So in all the ways, so you want to, you enjoy all the benefits that traditional dating entails.
	No, I offer as well.
	You offer what?
	I offer.
	I take care.
	What do you mean you offer?
	What do you offer?
	I'll, in return, you know, make sure if my person's taking care of me, it's a two-way stream.
	I'm going to feed you, you feed me.
	Okay.
	Are we at first dating stage or are we at?
	We're talking about marriage and last names because those are two different aspects of the dating spectrum.
	Hold on.
	So just to be clear, you want the traditional benefits early in the relationship and then you want the modern benefits when it really matters when you guys are married.
	I believe they're a mixed in, like it's a piece nowadays where they're mixed and blended together and you're going to get the best of both those worlds and the worst.
	Yeah, I think the only thing that changed modern is just y'all.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Because it's like, if you want traditional courtship, why wouldn't you want to be a wife traditionally?
	Like, that just doesn't make sense to me.
	There's other aspects of being a traditional wife outside of just the taking the last name.
	Yeah, but that's nothing from a woman's point of view.
	And I think traditional dating and marriage, right, are different amongst cultures, too.
	I learned different things than in the U.S., than in Canada, or in Europe.
	You know, like people kiss each other on both sides of the story.
	But we're talking about the name.
	No, the name, that's kind of universal.
	The name.
	Yeah, taking on the last name.
	That's not only changed.
	Well, actually, in, I believe, in Mexico, the kids take both the last names.
	And then, like.
	All right, go date in Mexican.
	I don't know what to tell you, bro.
	We're in the middle of the day.
	You know what I'm just saying?
	I'll know how to talk about Ethiopia.
	I don't know how to talk about some other country.
	I'm not thinking about some other country.
	We're in the United States.
	Because we could bring up polygamy.
	Do y'all talk with that?
	They go in other countries.
	Y'all with that?
	No.
	That's here, too.
	Polygamy is baby.
	But it's taboo here.
	It's taboo.
	But it's vibrant in other countries.
	So obviously, we could play that under country shit all day.
	So my question to y'all.
	Yeah, I could go to Japan.
	Give me.
	Well, hold on.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, y'all like to play this type of this anomaly game.
	So let me ask you this.
	What are you willing?
	Are you willing?
	Are you willing to change your apparel for your man?
	Like, say, if you got a very provocative Instagram and your man is like, I love you, but will you change your pictures?
	Will you take them down?
	Are you willing to do that for your man?
	I've had this talk and I've had this conversation with the man before.
	By the way, you guys have very revealing photos on your all four of you who said you're body positive.
	You all have barely then is barely revealing.
	I have five Sim Tzu pictures.
	No, are y'all probably?
	Hold on, no, no, no, hold on.
	I looked at all of your Instagrams.
	You have a photo where I don't know if you're like, please don't break your body.
	It's looking right down Main Street at your crotch, bro, and you're in some pain.
	That photo is from three years ago.
	Bro, that's revealing.
	That old photo.
	It's still online on your public only fans.
	So on a dating aspect of that, right?
	Because you asked what it changed.
	I'm talking about we about to get married.
	Marriage or dating?
	Marriage.
	We serious.
	We about to get married.
	Okay.
	And now, how, like, now we're all the way at the end of the day.
	Because you got to realize the elder man.
	But you knew where you met me like that.
	It don't matter.
	We married now.
	So it's like, I'm not going to put stipulations on.
	And it's not a makeup.
	Are you saying you need to change how you dress?
	You need to dress like this now.
	Or you can't dress like this movie.
	Or you can't wear this type of photo.
	We're not getting married.
	When we're out in public, when you're with me, or when you're, whenever, if you're my wife, you're a representation of me, whether I'm around or not.
	Yes.
	Because women like to say, well, I can wear what I want when I'm by myself.
	But if somebody punch on you, I got to do something about it.
	So if my person, if my person states.
	If somebody, if you're outside looking crazy, I can't tell you what to wear.
	A woman to say, well, I'm going to wear what I want.
	Some women to say, well, I can wear what I want.
	So you're saying the girl got punched because she had a reveal.
	No, what I'm saying is, no, I'm saying that if you got into an altar, regardless of what you're wearing, if you're outside and you got into a situation, your man got to defend you, right?
	Even though he has no say on, he has to defend you if somebody put his hands on you.
	Right.
	So if I got, so if you are under my care, whether I'm present or not, then I should also have an opinion on how you carry yourself, whether I'm there or not.
	I mean, it depends, like, to what degree is the girl carrying herself?
	I'm talking about revealing clothes, sheer, see-through.
	I can see your nipples.
	Like, y'all know how y'all be dressing out here today.
	But that, yeah.
	So, if my signature is stating like I feel disrespected by certain things, but then vice versa, are you going to be okay if I be like, hey, babe, I don't like what you're wearing?
	You got to prove to me how what I'm wearing is attracting something that's negative.
	Like, how am I like?
	If a man could prove that, then I will listen to you.
	So, I got to learn.
	I wouldn't listen.
	Maybe we can look at it at a different angle.
	Let me just ask you a question by a show of hands.
	The Titanic is going down and you only have so many lifeboats.
	Do the women and children go first?
	Raise your hand if the women and children go first.
	Okay, that's the end of that.
	So, if the women and children go first and the men have to go down with a boat, then you need to do what you're fucking told and wear the right shit that the men tell you to wear.
	Because otherwise, just to be clear, otherwise, you can go down with a fucking ship and save myself.
	Wait, so hold on, because we're strong enough to make it.
	So, that was yours.
	I don't want to listen.
	Now, it's cool.
	Sit down and shut up and get it.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Wait, hold on.
	No, Let me finish.
	The reason that all of you raised your hand is because you said that there's a social duty and a societal expectation that you have for men.
	Great.
	We have them for you too.
	And what we have for you is that we don't want you to wear skimpy clothes, right, and walk around and make a fool out of yourself, right?
	That is our social expectation.
	A lot of male designs.
	Oh, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	If your social expectation is we go down with a ship, our social expectation in society is that you also have standards to adhere to.
	Wait, so just to be clear, just to be clear, you guys want men to literally die for you, but you draw the line at men wanting you to put on a jacket.
	No, no, I know.
	I was thinking is what level are we at where a man is trying to tell me what I should be wearing and what type of shit?
	You want men to die for reality.
	We know that I die.
	He literally just asked the ship.
	He just asked the question.
	Do you guys talk about the Titanic?
	No, we're talking about it.
	No, Specify this.
	This is why I didn't want y'all to vote.
	This is why I ain't gonna go to vote.
	It's like this.
	Hang on, misogyny.
	Y'all just said, y'all just say create.
	Hang on.
	Misogyny.
	You're right.
	We're talking about the Titanic.
	Why in the Titanic should the men go down and the women get the lifeboats and the kids?
	Why?
	That's what happened in the movie.
	Because the motherfucker.
	And the kids have more life to live with.
	Forget the kids.
	Okay.
	The kids go first.
	That's a given.
	We know that mothers know best when it comes to what they're doing.
	One woman, one man.
	Mothers know best.
	Mothers know best?
	I think most mothers know best when it comes to their kids and raising them.
	Andrew, do you have the same thing?
	If it's a traditional man that's out working and usually is not home to take care of the kids, yes, the woman should be going down.
	I just need to ask you this question then.
	If your social expectation is that women get on the lifeboats first, right after the children do, let's say the men on the board on board the ship say to you, No.
	No, you stay on the boat and fucking sink.
	You can't force them.
	Right?
	You can't.
	They could force you to stay on the boat, but you can't force them to stay on the boat.
	Why shouldn't they do that?
	Why shouldn't they?
	Why should they give you their spot on the boat?
	Why should they?
	If they love you, that's fucked up.
	Oh, but if you love them.
	They don't love them.
	They don't love them.
	Hold on.
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	If you love them, that's fucked up.
	Why should they stay?
	It's fucked up either way.
	No, sir.
	But why is the social expectation you go?
	Because the mother, I think personally, the mother should go with her kids because mothers know.
	Wait, hold on.
	If you're not a mother, then I feel like that's a different conversation.
	Stop.
	You're a parent.
	Let's make this really simple.
	Everybody on the boat is single.
	Nobody knows anybody.
	How about that?
	Where the kids come from?
	Okay, so it's either women go or men go.
	It's always going to be a menu.
	I think we only have each.
	We sponsor the life part.
	We've got to get it.
	Like, why would it just only be women?
	Like that?
	Okay, now I don't know.
	Let's start talking about that.
	Y'all women just want to be white, man.
	Y'all be playing these goofy ass games.
	What's good?
	Because we just said, oh, one woman and one man should go down.
	Is that not fair?
	Because you want the best from men and you're not willing to give him your best.
	The fact that a man got to argue with you about.
	Why is my last name the only best I have?
	No man has to argue with these things.
	No man has to argue with me about what I'm wearing.
	The traditional is the key.
	I'm sorry, Brian.
	Traditional was the key word.
	That's why.
	But let's put that down.
	If a man's supposed to give you the best, you think that a lot of men make a lot of money.
	Like you said earlier, you said a lot of the guys in the league.
	A lot of like, which is not, but we're going to go with your argument.
	So you want the best that men have to offer, and he can't tell you to cover your ass up.
	And you're not a virgin on top of that?
	Like, what is men getting out of marrying women like this?
	I never said that a man could not tell me what to wear.
	I just know I'm the time.
	So he can?
	Yes, but it depends.
	What level are we at?
	That's the question that I asked.
	What level are we at?
	You, my girl.
	The first date, and a man is telling me what to wear is crazy.
	I ain't say that.
	Now we about to get, we're married.
	Okay, cool.
	Like, if you want to tell me what to wear, I'm having sex with you.
	Put like this.
	At the moment, are we boyfriend and girlfriend?
	Listen, that's fine.
	I feel you.
	This is the moment when you supposed to listen.
	When if somebody does something to you, I got to do something back.
	That's what you listen to.
	Okay, that's fair.
	So that's right away.
	Yep, that's fair.
	Exactly.
	That's fair.
	But to say, oh, you can't wear this and that is the first date is crazy.
	Soon as soon as somebody, soon, I got to defend your honor.
	That's the moment you listen to me.
	And that's as soon as I meet you.
	But what about the women that's not dressed crazy and a nigga still going to slap their ass?
	Then what about that?
	I mean, then that's a degenerate, stupid dude.
	But is that the majority?
	Y'all always got to find these anomalies that we look for.
	It's women that it's women online right now that's cooking their kids in the oven.
	Am I going to bring that up as an argument?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	No, look, am I lying?
	It's happening.
	Women aren't putting their kids in the oven all types of money.
	I'm dead ass.
	Andrew, one more thing.
	Andrew, can you pull up that stat?
	Because you said something about a mother's knows best.
	I'm glad you said that.
	I've seen a stat, if I'm not mistaken, they said that a single father and his provision, how he cares about his kid, has been proven to be equivalent to a two-parent household or better.
	So do women really know best?
	You take one study and you think that's supposed to represent all my men.
	I know a lot of people.
	I know a lot of goose-ass mothers.
	One sec.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	One second.
	One sec.
	One sec.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	I'll explain the stat from both of them.
	Plenty of men that leave their families for men that's leaving their families.
	I'll get you guys in.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	So here's the stat on this.
	So he's right that generally speaking, so it used to be that there was a default in the court that children basically always went with the mother.
	As that has decreased, as more and more fathers have been awarded custody, we've been able to do some longitudinal studies on the outcomes of children who are raised in a single mother household versus a single father household.
	And it is true that the outcomes for children in a single father household do much better.
	This is not due to income.
	This is due to the fact that your abuse rates significantly increase by bringing additional men into a children's life who's not the father.
	Women do this.
	However, the case is that men, when they bring females into the life of children, they're not much of a physical threat to the children because the father can do something about it.
	So ultimately, yes, stepdads, the abuse rates go up.
	It's not that most stepdads are abusive.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I'm just saying that the abuse rates do go up.
	And promiscuous women, the abuse rates significantly go up.
	So yes, single father households tend to have much better results and outcomes regardless of the socioeconomic status.
	And that's just because of the information on that one study.
	Like, that's my question.
	Okay.
	No, it's multiple studies.
	So these are multiple longitudinal studies which go over this.
	And so there's other things too.
	There's some factors for women here.
	Like, for instance, the fact that there's way more women who have custody of their children, right?
	You would think that the numbers would be reduced for men because now we have a much higher pool.
	So then we kind of break that down per capita.
	So what we do when we dive in is we find this, that when you bring strange men around your kids, the chances that your kids get abused go significantly up, right?
	Because you can't do much about it.
	You can't do much about it.
	Men can do something about it.
	So if men are in, and these are other studies which show this, if men are in relationships with women, they begin abuse of the children, men put a stop to it very, very, very quickly.
	Women don't often do that.
	So it just, these are, these are dependent situations, but men, it does seem that their kids have better outcomes if they're single men than single women.
	And it seems like men pick better mates when they have children than women do, in my opinion.
	Well, I don't know if they pick better mates, but they can just pick up.
	Just from what I've seen in my life, I ain't got the doubt.
	They can just physically do something about it, right?
	Women don't have this force option.
	They can't be like, stop abusing my kid or else.
	Men can do that.
	They can just walk over and you know what I mean?
	Like they have this kind of nuclear option on force that women don't have, which puts women at this big disadvantage if they're going to be single and raising kids.
	But Andrew, that still speaks to the type of man she picked, too, though, because every man is not abusive.
	So if you're picking a guy that is a threat to your kids, doesn't that say something about your evaluation?
	Most step parents are not abusive.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	No, I agree.
	Most step parents are not abusive.
	It's just that the rates of abuse significantly increase the second you have other men who are not the biological father.
	Like, for instance, you're in the abusive home with your biological parents.
	It's an abusive home.
	You're actually less likely to die in that abusive home than if the state takes you out of that abusive home.
	Like, that's how crazy these stats are when it comes to paternal instinct.
	And it's like, this is across the board.
	So you never want to get, it's really easy to be like, Zach means no step parents.
	That's not, that's not what I'm saying.
	I'm just saying anything.
	I have to move things on.
	I mean, just to finish up on this whole traditional thing when it came to the last name, the conversation that you and me were having and you're dating a traditional guy, he's, if you guys are engaged, it's over.
	I hope you understand that.
	That's fine.
	If that's specific and it wasn't meant to be that person doesn't know me.
	Bro, this girl's throwing away a traditional man because she's a traditional man.
	She won't be a she wants a traditional man.
	She claims to be a traditional woman, but she won't even do the traditional thing of this is the tradition.
	I'm not saying I won't take it.
	And I think in the beginning I did state if it's somebody I said, okay, I'm going to marry you.
	A traditional guy, but if you're going to be submissive, do you want to be submissive to your husband?
	I am submissive to my husband or to my husband, to my partner.
	How would you be submissive if he's like, this is my decision on this?
	That's the end of the conversation.
	It's conditional submission.
	No, she wants to bit.
	She wants to nag and have like multiple.
	No, hold on.
	I'm not nagging.
	I think this is lit.
	You want to have like numerous conversations about this and nag and hope that he finally relents in his position that he wants you to take the last name.
	This is all the conversation that needs to happen.
	Most thorough thing I want to do.
	No, I don't go through.
	I don't need to.
	I don't know what comes with your last name.
	I don't know what you got going on in your family history and stuff like that.
	We're engaged.
	We're engaged.
	Who cares?
	In fact, you have a great last name.
	Let's say the last name in this situation sucks.
	Yeah.
	No, how about everything is great with his past?
	I don't know what that has to do.
	Everything is great in his past, but he has like a kind of bad sounding last name.
	Do you want to keep your last name?
	Hmm.
	It would have to really depend on how much I love that person, how much I like want to get married to them.
	You already agreed to.
	You obviously love the guy.
	If I already said yes and it was the conversation we already had and I'm like, yes, I'm already marrying you.
	I've already said yes to that.
	I'm going to probably most likely take your name.
	But prior to me saying yes, prior to me saying yes to marry you.
	Most likely.
	If I'm saying yes to marrying you, we're already at the establishment where I'm shaking the last name.
	If I'm already saying yes to marrying you, I've probably already established we're taking the last name, right?
	But prior to me saying yes to marry you, we need to have this conversation on I need you to understand my placement, how I feel about my last name.
	And can we have that conversation?
	And then if you're like, if in that conversation, if in that conversation you're like, no, I'm strict.
	I want you to have my last name.
	And that's what it's going to be.
	It shouldn't even be a conversation.
	You should just be like, well, unfortunately, we live in modern days.
	Pay for your own shit until we're married.
	I do.
	I'm never going to protect you.
	I'm never going to open the car door.
	You can do all that.
	Okay, then I'm also not going to clean the house.
	I'm not going to cook for you.
	I'm not going to take care of you on the other traditional aspects that I'm all supposed to cover if we're going to go, if that's going to be how it is.
	Cool.
	Because I'm over at one traditional thing and I have a controversy where I look at that a certain way.
	Now you want to take all the traditional aspects off the table.
	That's a big thing, though.
	It is a big thing.
	That's why I want to have a conversation.
	That's why I want to have a conversation about it.
	Let's talk about it.
	You do, but what is the point?
	I don't understand the point of having the conversation.
	If you met a guy and he's like, yeah, I'm super traditional.
	And he's like, I want to have a conversation about all the ways in which you expect me to be traditional.
	He's like, I want to have a conversation about paying for the first date.
	Bro, I guarantee you, if you went on a date with a dude and he's like, babe, I want to have a conversation about who's going to pay for this date.
	You'd be like, it's over for that dude.
	And you know it.
	You know it would be over.
	You'd be like, I'd be like, What's the conversation you want to have about it?
	Oh, well, you know, because you know the economy and look, you know, it's just I would really appreciate if we go like 50-50 on this until we're married.
	So, if you ask me out on this date and you're like, hey, I want to take you out, that's your do you ask guys out on dates?
	Um, I've asked people to go out.
	Oh, no, I initially stop, stop, stop.
	Not your you guys always do this.
	Oh, the boyfriend I've been seeing for three months, I asked him out to lunch.
	No, first dates, okay.
	First, you guys are not afraid of yourself.
	It's not a thing, that's not really a thing that I've had to experience or I've tried to experience.
	Who cares?
	But I will take my man out.
	I'm gonna go take a warning.
	I'm talking about Marman.
	No, we're talking about initials.
	Congrats.
	The guy's been paying for three months, and then you'll take him out once to fucking McDonald's.
	Congratulations.
	Well, you're such a guy.
	Don't eat McDonald's.
	He's used many of my arguments.
	I think I'll steal one of his fur chains.
	Let me just ask you this directly.
	This is Myron Gaines has said this in the past.
	It's actually a pretty worthy question.
	Would you date a super flamboyant and sassy man who promises that he'll be a traditional man for the right woman, but he needs a few dates to make sure that you're the one?
	Corn and tobacco.
	It's pretty good.
	I mean, I feel like it takes a few dates to see the person in general, right?
	Listen to the rest of the question.
	Okay.
	Would you date a super flamboyant, sassy man who promises that he'll be traditional for the right woman, but he needs to test you first by going on a few dates with you and paying like 50-50?
	You know, money answers all the thing.
	You know, they pay it's all good, right?
	No, I feel like actions speak louder because you can come off flamboyant, you can come off certain things, but then in those dates that we're getting to know each other, you can show me that traditional rather than saying it.
	And I'm like, okay, I'm going to show you.
	I think you would.
	Wait, so you would actually take a flamboyantly sassy man and tell him that one day maybe he would decide he would be traditional for you if you were worthy of it and he needed to test you first, really?
	You would really do that?
	Like I said, you see along those dates if that person is really traditional or not or super flamboyant and halfway through and I'm like, okay, now it's too sassy for me.
	No tradition whatsoever.
	Yeah, then I'm out of there.
	But you don't know anything.
	I like a little sass.
	I bet you do.
	The only reason you don't like a little sass because you know a little sass means you can control them a little bit.
	Yeah, that's about it.
	Now I had to say that.
	Do y'all agree with this statement, fellas?
	I like my men a little emotional.
	Well, we had the conversation.
	Do y'all agree with this, fellas?
	I feel like modern women will sacrifice being happy to be right, while men will sacrifice being right to be happy.
	I don't know.
	How about this one?
	Maybe.
	Men will sacrifice their happiness for their family.
	Women will sacrifice their family for their happiness.
	No, I know a lot of women.
	I know women.
	You just threw away a good guy because you're like, there are good guys in the world.
	There are godly men out there that will freaking be willing to take that conversation with me.
	But I know women who stayed in unhealthy, toxic relationships that they hate and they didn't want to be in and were very depressed for it to keep their family together.
	And they like this small ass list.
	You always want to find these anomalies.
	I know somebody that did that.
	Oh, no.
	I had an on.
	You know him too.
	Who are you from?
	LA.
	Excellent.
	Please.
	Come on now.
	Anisa, have a couple chats for a while.
	Go ahead, Anissa.
	I need you in my car.
	Remember the question that I asked earlier?
	Oh, wait.
	Are we not getting audio from her mic?
	Okay, Morgan, can I have you read?
	Remember that question we asked earlier?
	Why would I wife any of you as a high-value man?
	Gents, behold the answers.
	Pure, unadultered, dog shit, wholly underserving of traditional value.
	Sure, undeserving of traditional values.
	You did ask the wife.
	So it's giving traditional.
	What was his name again?
	Lucas.
	Shut up, Lucas.
	Oh, shit.
	That's my future man's head to find out.
	Okay.
	Lucas, aren't you married?
	Why are you worried about what we're doing?
	Go worry about your wife.
	You have a wife already.
	Why do you want to talk about wife and us?
	And you already got a wife.
	You don't get to cherry pick 12 values.
	Well, in Lucas's defense, what Lucas is saying, well, as a man, he has duties in society and he's going to have daughters and things like this and possibly sons.
	One day, his sons may end up having to date women who are like you.
	If this is the case, he wants to understand the inner workings of the sexual dynamic.
	So it's perfectly acceptable for him and millions of others to take interest in this.
	And modern dating makes total sense to me.
	All right, read this.
	You don't get to cherry pick which traditional values that benefit you.
	It's an all-or-nothing proposition.
	I work 12 to 14 hours a day earning seven figures.
	Do you really think I'm going to waste a single brain?
	Looks like he has another one coming in, but there's one from Desert Joe coming here.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	We'll be on the lookout for your second one.
	This is a common theme for these modern 304s.
	Guys invest in cat food companies.
	In a few years, the market is going to explode.
	Why are we modern 304s?
	That's crazy.
	We didn't even say nothing.
	Apparently, my viewpoint is a lot of fun.
	Since you know all about that, that must be a lot of fun.
	Thank you, Desert Joe.
	I appreciate the super chat.
	Lucas, we'll be on the lookout for your, I think, your secondary message that might be coming in here in just a sec.
	Look, I just don't get this whole traditional thing.
	Like, just say you're not traditional.
	Just like accepting.
	I say I am.
	Just date a soyboy.
	Yeah, you did.
	Leave the traditional men for the traditional women.
	I'm willing to become a traditional woman for the right man.
	I'm willing to pay for first dates maybe like six months in.
	Is that fair?
	No.
	But the idea for that.
	I mean, if the first dates are not available, I'm looking for traditional.
	I think you might not make it there.
	When you say I'm willing to become a traditional woman for the right traditional man.
	That's a huge deal, sweetheart.
	Isn't that the same idea saying I'll become virtuous and good when the time comes to be virtuous and good?
	You're saying the same thing, right?
	Like, I'll be virtuous when it's time to be virtuous for the right man.
	Isn't that backwards?
	Wouldn't you want to be virtuous first because you would be trying to ensnare or in some way incentivize the virtuous and practice makes perfect.
	I feel no practice.
	It's hard.
	No, no, no.
	A lot of y'all be thinking y'all could just turn this switch on, but no, you got to practice being a woman because I know a lot of women who said that, and then when they've been put in them situations, they can't handle being that type of woman because they've never been it.
	You have to be like, that's like us.
	Can we just start being a man when we meet y'all?
	I got to be a man.
	Hang on, hang on.
	This moves back to the Myron argument that he was making, right?
	He's like, listen to what you just said.
	I'm willing to be traditional for the right man.
	But then if the argument goes back to you, well, if a man says, okay, look, if you're Mrs. Sassy Pants and this and that, I'll do the same thing.
	I'll be Mr. Sassy Pants and I'll be a pain in the ass, right?
	And I'm going to shit test you for X amount of time so I can make sure that you're willing to do these traditional roles that I want.
	You probably wouldn't like that, right?
	I wouldn't.
	And I feel like there's a lot of guys out here that are like that.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Sassy.
	Very sassy, and they want to test women and see what they can get out of women.
	But isn't that what you're doing to them?
	No.
	How?
	Because you just got done saying that you'll be traditional for the right man.
	But I feel like, well, hang on.
	Hang on.
	I just want to let you know.
	That means, that has to actually mean that he has to fit A, B, C, and D box, and then you'll act the correct way that you think he wants you to act.
	That's not true because I've met dudes that didn't even meet my standards.
	And because I just fucked with them so heavy and I really loved them, I actually waited around to see if they would change and do better for me.
	So I feel like it's very much so possible for it to be vice versa.
	So that's why, even in the situation that I'm in right now, he's not a traditional, but I can tell he's trying to put in that work to be the man that I want him to be.
	And I don't mind doing that same thing in return for him.
	So if he asked me, oh, can you delete these pictures, da-da-da-da-da, because he's doing everything so right, I actually would do that for him, but he don't trip off me.
	So when I say I'm not a traditional woman, because y'all talking about all my Instagram is revealing, that's really what I'm talking in reference to.
	I hear you, and I heard that before, but when I see women do that in real time, they always are able to give a certain kind of guy that stipulation.
	So in other words, if it was a dude that was, you know, very straight to the point, clean-cut, conservative, and coming at you like that, y'all don't give that same submission.
	But y'all have all the patience in the world for a dude with a certain, in my opinion, edgy hood, maybe aesthetic.
	Y'all got patience for that guy.
	I don't see a lot of women giving patience for, you know, the everyday brother, like the guy that got that rapper look or something like that.
	Oh, yeah, you got all the patience for him.
	But a regular dude, y'all don't have that same patience.
	My man is a regular dude, and I have so much patience for him.
	And I believe you.
	I'm just saying a lot of women say that, but when I see what they do, it's like, oh, I'm sure you got patience for him.
	Oh, I was just saying, I feel like that's their type.
	Like, if a girl doesn't like a regular dude, what's the problem?
	No, that's fine, but I'm just saying, even when you look at the statistics of women who getting pregnant, at least in my community, they get pregnant by a small percent of men.
	So it seems like most men are not even getting their attention.
	So it seems like women are dealing with one kind of guy and they have patience for one kind of man.
	They don't have patience for all different types of men.
	I feel like, yes, it seems, but I just don't think that's true for everybody.
	Because even a lot of people that I went to school with, a lot of people that I'm friends with, they're all dating regular guys.
	Like, I know a few of my friends who are dating, like, okay, NFL, NBA, this, that, like, dudes with money.
	But that's not everybody.
	That's not what everybody wants.
	And I feel like it's not like a good representation of all women to say, oh, yeah, just because you see all these women say that on social media, that represents all.
	I mean, look at the Chris Brown concert.
	Look how many women was willing to give up their relationships for a picture with him.
	I wouldn't, I would never.
	That's why I can't really.
	But a lot of women do it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	So y'all wouldn't.
	So let me ask you something.
	So you got a man, y'all been together.
	Chris Brown catch you slip and say, Yo, I got 10 bands.
	I just want to spend time with you for a couple hours.
	You're going to go slowly.
	I would ask him.
	Exactly.
	We got one.
	We got another one.
	So you said, no, you went to.
	Nope.
	She's going.
	What about you?
	I'm not a Chris Brown supporter.
	I'm not a little supporter.
	I'm just trying to eat through.
	No, don't change ass because she changed.
	I would not cheat.
	I would not cheat.
	He ain't say cheat, just say hang out.
	He got 10,000.
	He just wants to hang out for you.
	I would ask my man first.
	The fact that you wouldn't even ask him shows you out of here.
	I wish my girl would ask me, hey, baby, can I go hang with Chris?
	Yeah, out of here.
	What if I give him some of the money?
	He might get some of that honey.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Y'all say I want to move things along a little bit.
	I'm going to try to get through the pre-show notes quickly so we can get into the questionnaire.
	Moving over here to Lily.
	You don't do OnlyFans?
	No.
	Never done OnlyFans.
	No.
	Okay.
	No, like, you're not going to find anything.
	You said you actually dated your ex-best friend's cousin in college, who is also in the same sorority as you.
	Oh, wow.
	And you dated a guy earlier this year that believed all women are dumb and broke.
	Oh, yeah.
	I already mentioned that part.
	Yeah, you already mentioned that.
	You dated your ex-best friend's cousin.
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	Oh, your ex-best friends?
	I love best friends.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You think the other guy, though, you think he was secretly a misogynist, and he also told me to find a different profession instead of modeling when his past two exes were models and he has a background of taking raunchy pictures of women on cars.
	Did you, but you dated him, though?
	Was this your longest relationship, the misogynist?
	No, she likes misogynists, I guess.
	I don't like misogynists.
	Okay.
	Well, I loved him after that.
	You wanted to talk about things being 50-50 if men should be providers despite women making their own money and if they have a limited mindset towards money.
	What did you mean by that?
	Okay, so that guy that I was talking to, he thought the most money he could make is $100,000.
	I want a man that thinks...
	Ambitious.
	Ambitious.
	Yeah, ambitious, like...
	That's not ambitious.
	$100K is not ambitious.
	That's not a case.
	No.
	Okay, but like, that's all he thought he could make, like, in his entire life.
	What's wrong with that?
	That was enough.
	But to be honest, is $100,000 enough to live a decent life as a single man?
	In the average country?
	Even dating.
	Where do you want to go?
	Dubai Thursday?
	Like, what the fuck?
	That's your problem.
	What I say, they live in a world between fear and fantasy.
	Y'all not in reality.
	Wait, so what is the thing?
	Things being 50-50.
	What do you mean?
	Like splitting the bills.
	Well, what do you want?
	Do you want 50-50 or do you want a man to pay for everything?
	I want the man to pay for everything.
	Pay for everything.
	Okay.
	And you'll take the last name?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you said that already.
	You said, let's see, a lot of people don't want to settle down anymore.
	There's a lot of hookup culture, mostly men.
	What do you mean by mostly men?
	I feel like men just see a girl.
	They just want to fuck.
	Do you think it's because they feel like that's all y'all good for?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	And who's all of that?
	How's that our fault?
	Oh.
	How is it not when most women put a price on everything to get from them?
	If men feel like everything is about money, so let's just get straight to it.
	If you put yourself, not to say y'all, but once you put yourself in a transactional energy, it brings men the transactional energy out of them.
	It's like, well, everything is a price with her.
	She's not going to listen to me.
	She ain't going to change how she wants to wear it.
	So let's just get straight to the mustard.
	I'm going to pay you and you just do what you.
	I'm not like that.
	I ain't no trick.
	But women, I feel like, are forcing men to be that way.
	Y'all sure, y'all take crazy pictures.
	You're always putting yourself out there.
	So that's giving pay-for-me vibes.
	So that's why men are going to come at you like that.
	I think if a woman was to take crazy pictures, like she's doing it for herself, not like for other people.
	I know, but you're still speaking from the perspective of a woman.
	Y'all don't even consider how we view things and how we view things should matter because we built this shit.
	So we have to, our voices have to matter.
	The fact that you can work in a world where you don't rely on a man was afforded to you by the ingenuity of a man.
	So y'all never think about what men think.
	You can feel however you want, but a man, if you think if I'm making $400,000, $300,000, you think I got time to argue with you about something, you're going to do it or I'm getting the fuck on.
	Because y'all always focus on this specialized man.
	That guy is not trying to hear what the fuck you talking about if it ain't on his program.
	Not no abusive shit, not no misogynistic shit, but certain concrete things about how you want you to carry yourself, how you want you to deal with him.
	It's non-negotiable.
	I didn't work this hard to bring myself out the mud to make $400,000 to deal with a woman who wants to submit to me optionally.
	That doesn't make sense, but it makes sense in y'all's mind.
	I think.
	I feel like because they don't submit also, you know?
	What are we submitting to?
	What you want?
	To the girl.
	You want me to do that?
	Wow.
	I'm opening up the money.
	Not fucking with other tens of other bitches.
	That's all y'all got is cheating?
	Yes.
	Because that's a very large thing.
	But this is the thing.
	This is why I don't believe that shit.
	Because I see rappers, athletes, entertainers.
	I don't see 100 dudes going to Rihanna concert, throwing their drawers on the stage.
	We don't do that shit.
	But a woman will go to a crib.
	Hold on.
	Right.
	I'm saying that's more discreet.
	That means she's not going to answer.
	But I'm not going to.
	I seen Kevin Gates did a concert.
	It was a pregnant girl on stage with him.
	She was pregnant.
	She let this man spit in her fucking mouth.
	So what I'm saying is women say, oh, we don't want that.
	I think women put a stipulation on money.
	It's like, if you can afford to be a cheater, they'll let you cheat.
	You know, women know for a fact that these rappers that they running up into their hotel rooms trying to get in line, you know, he ain't faithful to you.
	Women want the high of the experience of being around a high-value man, but they don't necessarily want him to stop dealing with other women.
	If he can afford to keep you hushed up, women, I know y'all gonna say it because women are very PR friendly.
	But behind closed doors, I've seen more women deal with a man who's willing to, if he's willing to pay you and take you to Dubai and he wants a little side piece, most women will let him do that.
	I'm taking myself to Dubai.
	Yeah, okay.
	Single.
	Sound good.
	I've had like an experience where I've dealt with dudes who had a lot of money and I knew that they were dealing with other people.
	But like you said, you're right.
	Yes, there's some situations where if I'm satisfied in all other ways, I will let some shit.
	Money, if he got the money.
	But in the end, I've learned that it's not worth it.
	And I would rather be with the regular dude that would treat me right and love me than the high-value man that's going to be a little bit more detailed.
	But you settle for that dude, but you really want the other dude.
	No, that's why I'm not.
	Because I don't want to be cheated on, actually.
	No.
	If I wanted the other dude, I would have still been with you.
	So he's going to make sure you got a dress right there.
	That's fine.
	Immediately.
	I don't.
	He never complains.
	Yeah, he must.
	Where you from?
	L.A. East Coast.
	We ain't going.
	How are you tripping all my Instagram pictures?
	But you was just liking my pictures.
	I mean, I like them, but I ain't your man.
	Okay.
	You want to be going back to Lily, your final notes here.
	You said, also, people not knowing how to properly take someone on a date or plan.
	And by people.
	It was the same guy.
	You mean men?
	Oh, same guy.
	But yes, men in general.
	So, but what does it mean to properly take someone on a date or plan?
	What does that look like?
	Well, I feel like a man should take initiative, plan out what we're going to do, where we're going to go.
	All right, so how about I'm just going to eat your shit?
	Okay, well, pick up the bag.
	Are you talking like, okay, I'm going to pick you up at 7 p.m.
	We're going here, wear this?
	Yeah.
	That's nice.
	Most guys aren't doing that.
	Okay.
	Most of y'all be late, too.
	Every time I play something with y'all, y'all never.
	Okay, lie about the time.
	Lie about the time.
	Speaking of late, by the way, I didn't mention this at the beginning of the show.
	Normally, I don't.
	I was about to say, normally I don't stand on principle, but we had these, we had three girls.
	It was going to be 10 on the panel total.
	You're drinking the champagne?
	You don't want it.
	You can have it.
	Yeah, you don't want it.
	You play it.
	All yours.
	Three girls were running like 30, 40 minutes late.
	And I was like, you know what?
	Fuck it.
	You guys aren't coming on the show.
	One of the girls was like 20, 30 minutes away.
	She was Dark Cavia?
	No, no, no.
	She was not coming.
	It was just three other girls.
	Two of them coming together and then a separate girl who's coming.
	I was like, you know what?
	Just fucking turn around, man.
	You're late.
	Where they drove from?
	Where did they drive from?
	LA.
	I was like, fuck it.
	You're a trick.
	Shout out to you for being a gangster.
	I was like, back to LA, you go.
	Would you do that on a date with a girl?
	Would you do that on a date?
	Like, if you were waiting for her and she was lagging, you'd be like, you just have to stay.
	Just have them waiting.
	I mean, it depends.
	So, like, has she been in communication?
	Has she been in communication?
	If there's no communication, 15 minutes.
	What if she's gorgeous?
	Don't give a fuck.
	You got to play them out.
	I'm the ones you got to play out the quickest.
	Wait, you said no communication?
	Yeah, so for example.
	But if she tells you that she's not going to be like, I'm texting you, like, here's the plan.
	Here's the plan.
	Okay.
	The plan is: meet at 7 p.m. somewhere.
	I arrive.
	Hey, what's up?
	I'm here.
	I don't hear from her anything.
	Like, hey, sorry, I'm running late.
	15 minutes max.
	Otherwise, I'm out.
	What if she texts you and says?
	If she texts me, maybe I'll wait between 20 to 30 minutes.
	I'm rescheduling.
	She's waiting like two hours.
	Somebody wait.
	Somebody.
	See, that's that's and that and those type of dudes is what's messing up the game for everybody else for for the date if she's late, by the way.
	I'm rescheduling or leaving.
	I'm not paying for this.
	If she's late, seven o'clock and hot damn.
	If you got me waiting, I like to mess up people who are obsessed with me.
	I'm not paying for the date if you're not.
	Even if I'm obsessed with you, I'm more obsessed with myself and my self-respect because if I let you get away with that, okay, come in.
	I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
	If I say, if I say, my time is precious, I might have something to do.
	I might have shifted my day around just for this time frame because y'all love high-value men who got shit to do, right?
	So if I got shit to do, that means I put something important to the side to put time aside for your ass.
	So if you don't come at seven o'clock, I'm not coming because I'm giving you the wrong image of what type of man I am.
	You need to know how to deal with me.
	I'm not the other dude who's obsessed with you.
	I'm me.
	I'm obsessed with my time, and that's what's precious.
	So if you respect my time, then I'll be obsessed with you.
	Okay.
	That's good.
	Y'all strike me.
	I really understand it, truthfully.
	Also, have you had the experience, Eric, where the girl will be late and not even...
	You don't need to be, like, crying, begging for forgiveness.
	I just want like a simple like, hey, sorry, I'm late.
	But they won't even say women will not even apologize.
	They'll just be like, oh, I'm here.
	Like, because this is why, Brian, because women, because her mind is like this.
	If you're sitting here waiting for me after I done been late, you obviously don't respect yourself.
	So why should I?
	No, even if it's like just 10, 15 minutes late, I still expect.
	Again, you don't need to be like, oh, I'm sorry.
	How often are you late to work?
	Exactly.
	What you're saying?
	No, like, I just want to be a very token.
	Hey, sorry, I'm late.
	How you doing?
	Like, that's it.
	But if they don't even do a token apology, I'm just like.
	Now, if you late and you brought something in your hand to like, listen, I'm sorry I brought you a little something.
	I might, but usually first date.
	Anything.
	It could be.
	Any, anything.
	Do you guys like getting flowers?
	Like, if a girl gives me flowers.
	I wish it all pull up her when I'm late.
	But like, some girl might say, hey, I seen, I brought you a mug, a coffee mug, or something.
	A mug?
	I don't give a fuck.
	I don't know what it is.
	I'm just saying she just did something like one time.
	A girl brought me a hooper set.
	You know what I'm saying?
	It was a little small one.
	But I'm just saying, first impressions is everything.
	And we live in a world where people be playing.
	And time is of the essence.
	So I don't have time to keep evaluating whether you really fuck with me because to me, being on time is mad simple.
	And so is rescheduling is simple.
	I'll take a reschedule, but don't have me sitting looking stupid.
	I'm leaving.
	I feel like your mindset makes sense for you because you're like older.
	I was always like this.
	Oh, okay.
	This jersey.
	I agree with them, though.
	Like, as long as late and they don't say anything, I'm probably never going to see them.
	Yeah, that's rude.
	That makes sense.
	You got to stand on me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, usually it's never the guy that's late.
	It's usually me.
	Like, I feel like I've been experienced that.
	See, that's that pretty privilege, and these dudes be too weak for that shit.
	And that's why I said I like guys that's obsessed with you.
	You got to say.
	So, like, they'll be okay.
	But that don't mean he's not obsessed with you.
	It just means he respects himself.
	And you don't really want a man long term like that.
	On me, I don't.
	But the long term, you don't want a man that's just more obsessed with you than himself.
	You don't really want that kind of guy.
	It feels good, but long term, that's not what you want.
	Why not?
	You'll see.
	What about the dude that's obsessed with you now?
	You still haven't decided whether you're taking him seriously or not.
	But he's obsessed, right?
	But he ain't got you.
	Exactly.
	If a girl really likes you, she wants the title like immediately.
	Of course.
	Immediately.
	She's going to let you know she's going to touch you and all that shit.
	No, I've been like casually getting to know somebody for some time.
	I do like them, but I'm taking my time with them.
	Exactly.
	I just want to take my time.
	You ain't late to them dates.
	I'm not going to give you time.
	I do.
	I don't like late.
	I like getting late.
	I was back then.
	My flight.
	What's the ladies who was at a date?
	Okay, hold on, guys.
	The chat's coming.
	There's too much to crosstalk.
	Libertariat donated $200.
	If a woman is late, can she be forgiven?
	We'll do the bow video really quick because I'm sure this panel will like it.
	Yeah, you know, if she's.
	Oh, like I bend over and say, I'm sorry, I'm here.
	I will accept.
	I will forgive the tardiness if she.
	You got the bow video?
	Yes.
	All right.
	This is a photo I took of my ex-girlfriend.
	Wait, wait until the text goes away.
	Is it really your ex-this is my ex-girlfriend?
	This is a video I took.
	It was after a long day at the podcast studio.
	And yeah, this is a.
	And then, boom, huge bow.
	It took me a while to get the degree of bow down all the way.
	And then, look, you know, I get home.
	You know, she's got to do the laundry right away, you know.
	And then dinner.
	That's not your biggest.
	And then dinner.
	My God, my dinner ready.
	She's got my dinner ready for me.
	This is look.
	She cracks open a beer for me.
	This is great.
	This is what this is.
	What does she make?
	What is that?
	Feeds you?
	Is she going to feed you?
	Yeah, she has dinner ready for me.
	What does she make?
	That's your girlfriend.
	That was her ex-girlfriend.
	What's she made?
	Wow, she wasn't.
	Played.
	Play it again.
	Right.
	Play it again.
	Boom.
	Huge.
	Do you see the bow?
	The degree.
	It wasn't just like a little shitty bow.
	I mean, she could have gone a little deeper at it, scold her for a bit.
	But yeah, that's that was scold her.
	What's with the bowl of tomatoes, Brian?
	I know.
	There's a whole bowl of tomato.
	What's the deal with that?
	Well, so what I did, you not included in the video.
	Right after I hit the stop button, I grabbed the bowl of tomatoes.
	And you saw that balcony, like with the what's it called?
	The sliding glass door.
	I went onto the balcony and I fucking chucked that shit.
	And I was like, never make this for me again.
	She probably did.
	I'm kidding.
	You threw me food that she made for you out there.
	Made for me.
	It's a bowl of tomatoes.
	I thought you should have threw that meal away.
	I was wondering what?
	Also, yeah, no.
	What the hell?
	That's like me saying, oh, I made you a dinner and I gave you a bowl of like full apples.
	Like, what do you mean?
	That's not making dinner.
	Yeah.
	Going around the table really quick.
	Would you bow for your man, I guess, like that?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	There you go.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's in my cultural tradition.
	What's to bow?
	What's your.
	I'm Asian.
	I'm Cambodian.
	Really?
	Wow.
	I thought you were maybe like.
	I'm Cambodian and German.
	Do I like it?
	I thought you were like maybe like a Latina or something.
	You did look good.
	All right.
	Okay, cool.
	There you go.
	Would you bow for your man?
	For what?
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean for what?
	Why am I bowing?
	Wait, what?
	Why am I bowing for them?
	Because you love him, obviously.
	Yeah, she was greedy.
	Oh, wait, you mean like a bow every time I see him or like as a sorry?
	Like, no, no, no, like different.
	Like, I get home from work.
	That's the greeting.
	When I get home, I could just say hi.
	Give him a kiss.
	Bruh.
	Like, what do I mean?
	Bow for.
	He's paying all the bills.
	I don't care.
	You want me to?
	Like, look, that is awesome.
	I don't get that deal breaker.
	You must be.
	I can get on my knees.
	Yeah.
	Always the money.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	We did now.
	All right.
	No, bow.
	That's interesting.
	Question, though.
	Have you ever had the one-night stand?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so just to be clear, like, you'll let a guy, like, you'll let his penis inside you, but you won't just go like that three seconds.
	Okay, but like, no one's ever told me bow before, so why would I do it?
	Yeah, go with the program.
	No, no bowing from you.
	Yeah.
	Who am I bowing for?
	Your boyfriend or whatever.
	I don't know.
	I don't have a boyfriend.
	If you.
	Did you bow for your girlfriend?
	I don't have a girlfriend.
	You'd bow for your girlfriend?
	I don't have one.
	If you're bad.
	Like, are they asking me to, though?
	Or like.
	Can I ask you a question?
	How would you feel if you didn't have anything for breakfast this morning?
	I'll eat lunch.
	You what?
	I'll just eat lunch.
	She'll just eat lunch.
	All right.
	Andrew likes that one.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
	I would be hungry.
	I'm hungrier now.
	I'm hungry.
	But I did have breakfast.
	But I did have breakfast.
	I did.
	What would you eat?
	I had a burrito, a breakfast burrito.
	That sounds like a bad bad.
	A BBB.
	Oh, BBC.
	Oh, oh.
	I'm about to pause that for a minute, man.
	It's almost a pause, Brian.
	Almost, almost pause.
	What did you think I was going to say?
	A BBC.
	Oh, what the fuck?
	What the?
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	But wait, what's a BBB?
	A BBC?
	No, that's actually the same thing.
	I thought he was going to say a BBC.
	Big Brian breakfast.
	That's why Brian ended up.
	Big Brian breakfast.
	A Brian breakfast burrito.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh.
	A Brian breakfast burrito.
	Okay, she went to the class.
	I just, the whole thing with why I asked you the question is like, women will like refuse to do this bow, which takes like no effort.
	It's pretty benign.
	But like they'll let a guy blast in their face within 30 minutes of meeting them.
	They'll bend over, but they won't bow.
	You will let a man inside of you with his penis ravaging.
	You won't bow?
	You won't do a bow?
	Didn't you say that you'll fuck a girl but won't kiss her?
	I never said that.
	You mixed up with my nose.
	Never mind.
	Don't stay without a bad thing.
	It's pretty low.
	Would you guys bow to a girl?
	Would you guys bow to your woman?
	I would not bow to it.
	No.
	Really?
	Have you had a one-night stand?
	So you'll put your penis inside a one-night stand, but you won't bow to your woman who's making you the food and doing the bed and doing your laundry.
	Went home.
	Would you?
	Would you bow to your woman?
	You're all of food.
	No, I would bow her over and show how much I appreciate it, but I'm not bowing.
	What if she asked you?
	She's like, you can't whoop.
	Nobody asked for me.
	You can't do nothing.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	So why would I bow to you?
	I could definitely whoop somebody.
	What if your woman is in the neighborhood?
	That wasn't me.
	That was my example.
	That was, y'all not built for that.
	I'm not.
	But if he bows, would y'all bow back?
	Yeah.
	She was trying to respect.
	Anyways, yeah, it's just interesting.
	I'm whoop my man.
	This is funny because every time you say yes to something, your head be going like this.
	You notice that?
	Wait, what's she doing?
	Nah, I'm just thinking.
	And Andrew and I'm like, she'd be like, no, yeah, I'll do that.
	I don't know.
	I wonder.
	I mean, to use a more realistic example, like the same woman who's like, I'm not going to clean for my guy.
	I'm not going to cook for my guy.
	But like, will like suck his dick within an hour of meeting.
	Just a new tongue.
	Honestly, yeah, that head is the new kiss.
	Head is the news.
	Just have sex.
	Like, you'll have sex with a guy.
	yeah that doesn't make sense but the thought of like you draw the line and making a plate but But the thought, yeah, like the thought of cooking or cleaning or whatever it is, like that's crazy, but like.
	I could bust in your face.
	Yeah, that doesn't make crazy.
	I don't know.
	Go to Payden, going to your notes.
	You said that men spoiling their girlfriend, is that something you wanted to talk on?
	You want to be spoiled?
	Yeah, I think I've expressed that a lot.
	Do you spoil bad?
	You get spoiled?
	I do.
	And how?
	I just said I cook, I clean, suck, fuck.
	Like, you know, I also.
	That's the regular.
	That's basic, though.
	I'll pay for a man's stuff, too.
	That's kind of base.
	That's regular.
	I'm a gift giver.
	Like, I'll give a man gifts.
	Like, especially if he's doing a lot for me, like, I'll always remember that in the back of my mind.
	Sex and food is the basics, man.
	Imagine if a guy is.
	Because there's a lot of women that's not going to cook for their man.
	He literally just said, I know plenty of women that will not cook for a man.
	That's not her boyfriend.
	You're right, but just because y'all lowered the ball for yourself don't mean I'm doing it.
	Cooking and sucking the fucking ain't no, that ain't right.
	You're supposed to do that shit.
	I feel like it's not regular because a lot of men complain about how they can't even get that from women.
	So I'm settled for women who won't do that shit.
	Okay, so then it's not the bare minimum then.
	It's definitely the bare minimum.
	I don't think it is, but you know, she just you said something also about men deciding who to spend money on.
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	Like, I feel like some men will treat women a certain type of way.
	Like, I don't know.
	Like, for me, I feel like men pick and choose who they're going to be the right man for.
	Don't women do that too, though?
	We all do.
	Yeah.
	Like, you'll let the guy with the face tat hit right away, but like the nice guy, like the good guy with a steady job, but maybe he's not like the best looking or he's not that charismatic, but he treats you well, never cheat on you.
	Like go to church.
	He's got to wait three months.
	Hello?
	Well, if he's fine with waiting three months, what's the problem?
	Oh, no.
	He wants to have sex, but you're like, no, no, no, pumped.
	I'm not that type of girl.
	Meanwhile, like two weeks ago, you were at the club and some guy finger blasted you after 30 minutes.
	Well, finger blasted me.
	It's always acting 30 minutes.
	60 minutes.
	Well, I feel like that goes to the same thing where like you treat people away that like never mind.
	No, no, no, keep going.
	Reboot real quick.
	Reboot.
	Okay, like refresh.
	A guy could go like fuck have a one-night stand with some girl, not take her on dates, and then he could see another girl and like spoil her, take her on dates.
	I feel like it's how you see each person.
	Exactly.
	That was my point when I wrote that.
	But usually, I feel like the guy who's gonna like spoil the girl on dates, he's gonna do that for the girl who's worthy of long-term.
	Whereas women, you withhold sex from the long-term guy and you give the sex to the fuckboy who you need.
	Like, yeah.
	So it's like the men reward the long-term girls.
	The men reward the women who are deserving of it.
	And then, but you women, you withhold, which can be viewed as like essentially a punishment.
	Like you give up, you give the sex to the men who are the least deserving and you withhold the sex from the men who are arguably the most deserving.
	Because like, okay, this is what I would say about that.
	So I feel like sometimes you might run into a dude and you feel like he only wants you for sex, but you might also only want him for sex too.
	So, you know, like fuck him quick, you know, and then the dude that you really want to be with, you don't want to fuck him quick because you know once you fuck him, he's going to lose respect for you.
	That's typically how it is with a lot of guys.
	Like if you fuck them quickly, they don't respect you.
	They don't value you.
	And it's only going to ever be about sex.
	So you make the dude that you want to take the most serious wait to really see and vet them out if it's going to be worth it to give them the coochie versus the dude that you don't even really want to take seriously.
	Yeah, we could just fuck be family.
	That's why, ladies and gentlemen, men look at y'all as just sexual objects because that makes no goddamn sense in the world.
	You're going to make the good dude wait.
	You're going to make the good dude wait.
	Because he's not going to be the good dude once you give him the coochie.
	That's true.
	That's very true.
	Sometimes the coochie can make the dude act the bad guy.
	I was just saying y'all would never take serious no one night stand, bro.
	No, no.
	So you give a one-night stand to the good man.
	He's not going to be a man.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	Let me ask you guys a question.
	Of all your like the longest relationships you've had, was it like, okay, we're going to wait three months?
	Or like of all the boyfriends or relationships you've had, did you hook up with him like the first, second, or third date?
	Be honest.
	No, I feel like my most long-lasting relationships were guys that I may wait for the coochie.
	How long is waiting for?
	Like a month or two.
	Okay, the longest was eight.
	She's whine.
	Eight days.
	I will give you two weeks.
	I see two weeks.
	I'm not fucking a dude in two weeks.
	That's way too soon.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I swear on my life.
	I swear on my life.
	I've met so many.
	I'm not saying I've never fucked a dude fast, but if I really like you and I really see like something, girls should really like the dude, if you, that's the dude you fucking the fastest, that you like the most, then they're not gonna like me.
	No more.
	Like no, that's what I kid you not.
	You swear that that's not it, but that's exactly how it is, because isn't that faking virtue?
	Isn't that faking?
	Isn't that faking virtue?
	The idea is, uh well, if I liked you less, I would sleep with you faster.
	But I don't do that because I want to keep you around for longer, so I want to give you the impression that I'm virtuous, even though I'm really not.
	Isn't that faking virtue?
	How am I?
	How is it if you're really not virtual, Andrew?
	Because it's not like, I'm like just a hoe and I fuck every nigga quick and then it's just that one nigga like.
	I feel like it just depends, like because you're not a virgin, so to act like you're putting a stipulation on your sex is not, it's not true because you're not a virgin, no more.
	I feel like for most dudes that I've dated, I made them wait like it's been a, it's been a few outliers.
	Yeah sure, but if you say I don't want to sleep with this guy because I really like him and I'm afraid that once that happens he's not going to like me anymore, then this is an admittance that if you liked him less, you might be, you might be quicker to sleep with him, which means you would essentially be faking virtue towards the guy who you actually liked to get him to like you wanted to sleep.
	No, because I've never, I've never benefited from fucking a doofest.
	I'm not even gonna lie.
	I mean yeah, but that's but that.
	But that would make.
	It doesn't benefit us, it doesn't.
	It only benefits men.
	Yeah, but that would make my point again.
	If you liked him less and you were willing to sleep with him quicker than if you liked a guy a lot and you're will and you want to make him wait, you're faking virtue to that guy.
	You're saying listen, this is how this is how it is.
	Uh uh, you know i'm actually uh, i'm not sleeping with you because um, you know i'm virtuous in some way, you wouldn't be with me, even though with other men I would do this much quicker.
	Isn't that faking virtue?
	And men fake their personalities to you.
	So yes, maybe it is faking virtue women okay, I mean with a makeup wipe you can remove, like hold on.
	No, I feel like men will still so bad, i'm still cute without my makeup.
	So I don't, I can't even participate.
	I'll say I feel like a man will still a girl, regardless of how she looks.
	Facts, yeah, men have low standards.
	That's pretty true about that.
	I guess what's the point, though?
	Oh well, you still remove your makeup, like no, but i'm saying like, uh, you guys say that men fake their personality like, and that's what makes you guys attracted to men.
	We're attracted to your physical beauty.
	You guys fake the method in which you make us attracted to you but honestly, only reason I argue with that is because I feel like a lot of dudes tell me, oh, you look better without makeup, I like you more without makeup, this and that.
	So I mean you could say faking it.
	I don't know, I I can't relate to that, but um sure um, i'm gonna get through the rest of the notes here we have, but I don't, I don't actually understand.
	Maybe you can just clarify this for me really quickly, if, if you would be more likely to sleep with a guy that you're not into and more likely to make a guy wait, who you were into.
	How's that not a punishment for the guy you're into?
	How is it a punishment?
	Just trying to vet it out, to see like, because from his perspective, think of it from his perspective wouldn't he be like.
	So you're willing to fuck the guy you don't like, but you're not willing to me, the guy you do like, but he doesn't know that.
	It's not to say that I don't like, he doesn't know that.
	So you're faking virtue.
	That's the point, right.
	You're faking it because you would.
	Normally I could give him the coochie.
	I could give him the coochie very quickly and he could stop liking me and never text me back again.
	And he's faking that.
	He liked me and yeah, Because that's what men do.
	Yeah, but I mean, if he, if he, the thing is, though, is like all he really needs to do is be less than appealing for you, right?
	Just a little less appealing than he is.
	So you don't really like him, you just kind of like him.
	And then he'll actually have sex quicker, right?
	Because you have sex with the people you like less, quicker than the people you have sex that you really like.
	I wouldn't, I'm not generalizing it that way.
	Like, I don't just be like, oh, yeah, I don't like him like that.
	Let me give him some coochie.
	Like, I'm just thinking about the few times that there were those guys that I did fuck a little bit faster.
	Like, it wasn't like, oh, I don't like them at all.
	Let me give some coochie.
	It was more so, like, okay, I'm horny and this is who I got around right now.
	So, so I'm just gonna have to, like, you know, go with what I got, versus like, okay, there's a dude that I feel like is what like wants to know me way like way more on a deeper level.
	Like, does that make sense?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	It's still like backwards.
	But I mean, it makes sense in the sense of I understand what you're saying.
	I just think that the logic of it's backwards.
	That's the part that doesn't make any sense.
	It's like, why would you want to make the guy wait who you really like?
	I'm telling you.
	And then, and then be more willing to give it up to guys who you don't really want to have a deeper level with.
	You just want to have a physical intimacy relationship with him.
	And it's like, from the guy's perspective, then that you do like, wouldn't he think that he's being punished?
	Wouldn't he think that?
	Maybe.
	But I would think I would be punished if we have sex quick and then I get ghosted.
	Yeah, but you wouldn't think you would be punished if you had sex quick with a guy you just wanted to have sex with, right?
	Because then it's just like, well, I just wanted to because I was horny.
	So it'd still be a point.
	And then you regret it after.
	I've done that.
	I've definitely had sex and regretted it after because it was too quick and I wish that I waited.
	All right.
	Okay.
	We are going to get into, let's see.
	I wonder if we do an Instagram review.
	That could be interesting.
	Can I ask a question real quick?
	Oh my God.
	Please don't pull that mark.
	Real quick.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Because we were talking about this the other day.
	You said too quick because yesterday, the other day, they said women said they just like 15, 20 minutes sex sessions.
	How long do you like?
	Yeah, 15 to like 30 minutes.
	Okay.
	Too quick is like 5 to 10.
	Okay, going to winter, we were going to get into this earlier.
	You were talking about kind of your relationship.
	Do you want to get into that?
	Oh, sure.
	What made the one guy so much more special than also?
	Really quick, though, first, you said you're medically retired.
	I am medically retired.
	Okay.
	A neurological disorder.
	Okay, go on.
	All right.
	So you get like full SSI.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, gotcha.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	So, anyways, so what happened was there was an accident.
	I wound up on life support.
	Beforehand, there was this guy that I kept turning down.
	And shortly after, you know, I survived and everything, he came back into my life.
	And I'm like, you're that guy I kept turning down.
	And he denied that he was that guy.
	And because of the memory problems I was having, he convinced me to think that we were like in some loving relationship and shit.
	And so I started dating him, had sex with him, everything like that.
	And then found out he even said something along the lines of like, what's this going to be?
	A 51st date shit.
	Like, you can't remember, you know, that we did this and that.
	And we really never did.
	He just made up those things to get me to do it again.
	Yeah, yeah, Jedi mind shit.
	Yeah.
	You believed him?
	I love this people.
	Yeah, I believed him.
	I mean, he eventually got me to believe him.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	We're going to come back to some of your stuff.
	But basically, you've never been married, never had a boyfriend.
	No.
	You have dated.
	You've had plenty, yeah.
	Yeah, you've had several people where you're seeing each other for up to three months, but never had like a long-term boyfriend.
	Maybe you've encountered a lot of bad guys.
	If you had to say, though, like if there's anything from your end, like, do you think there's anything about you that's prevented?
	Yeah, I definitely think so.
	I think, like, there was like you kick somebody in the balls.
	Like, no.
	I think I just wasn't even prepared or in a spot in life where I should even consider something like that.
	Sure, sure.
	Well, I guess before I get into, I have to wait a bit to get into the thing.
	You said that you dated a burn victim.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	If you can be brief with the story.
	I can be brief with the story.
	Yes, I can.
	So I dated a man.
	He said he was a burn victim.
	And I went into this building.
	We stopped outside.
	He had to run inside this building, and I decided to follow him in.
	And I follow him in, and I realize it's a medical facility.
	And I see where he's standing.
	And so I go and I walk up to him.
	And the pharmacist asked him his birthday.
	And the birth year was like two years after my father's birth year.
	So he was just old.
	How old was he?
	60s?
	He was like 60-something, yeah.
	And he said he lied about his age, and he said, I look this way because I'm a burn victim.
	Yes.
	He said that he was like burnt like 80% of his body and stuff.
	And I wasn't going to ask questions.
	He was just old.
	He was just old and wrinkly.
	He was just old and creepy.
	He was just old.
	He was just old and creepy.
	Wait, what?
	That's a creepy thing to do.
	You just couldn't tell the difference between a burn victim and an old man, really?
	He looked super wrinkly.
	He looked like a burn victim to me.
	I don't know.
	You still gonna be a child?
	What are the burn victims look like?
	I still got him a chance, of course.
	After where I found out his age, you know.
	So the age of the deal, Brigger.
	Yeah, the fact that it was a lie, he was like 60-something.
	He was like 30.
	That's like 30-something years.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, okay, so that's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Have you ever seen that I in no way, shape, or form believe this story?
	There's no way.
	It's true.
	If you thought a 60-year-old man was just a burn victim, well, I mean, come on.
	Look at him.
	You girls are laughing because you know there's no.
	I do.
	She has some mental issues.
	I do have some.
	I have some disabilities.
	She did say she was disabled.
	Yeah.
	She is disabled.
	That's true.
	Okay.
	Wait, in the brain.
	How did you find out he was 65?
	I walked up to him.
	He was at the pharmacy.
	And they asked his birthday.
	Yeah.
	Moving on, though, just to be kind of moving through this quick, you said you had a one-of-a-kind early 20s.
	You were groomed by a criminal and basically a captive for four and a half years.
	Was this a man you dated?
	Yeah, well, I don't count him.
	I don't count him as my boyfriend or someone I dated because it was a trick.
	It was a bamboozle.
	Yeah.
	Tricked you.
	Yeah.
	How old were you when this happened?
	I was 20.
	I just turned 20.
	How old was he?
	23.
	And you said, okay, but you said groomed by a criminal and basically a cap, basically a captive for four and a half years.
	Let's explore those two things.
	When you say groomed by a criminal, what he was already a criminal at the time.
	He was already a criminal, yeah.
	Drug dealer?
	What was he?
	No, so all I knew is that he had made American currency like counterfeiter.
	Counterfeiter, okay.
	He was a counterfeiter, yeah.
	In his teenage years, he was counterfeiter.
	In his teenage years, he was a counterfeiter.
	Catch me if you can, fucking Leonardo DiCaprio or something.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	I have no idea.
	Okay, sure.
	But, anyways, so he went to prison or something like this.
	And this was obviously the drug dealer that I did, right?
	Also, a drug dealer.
	Drug dealer and counterfeiter.
	Yeah, well, eventually the drugs came in, right?
	The drugs.
	He was losing him first?
	Or was he selling them?
	He was using him.
	He's losing them.
	But I didn't find out.
	Yeah.
	Because I'd never been around someone who did that type of stuff.
	If you eat a banana, we have to do a whole segment on it.
	No.
	So just hang tight on the banana.
	We'll get to the banana.
	Wait, so okay.
	Let's go into the captive for four and a half years, though.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by that?
	So that's a little proprietary to my book, but I will answer your question.
	Proprietary to your book?
	It's a little, it's a little like memoir you writing or something.
	Like, yeah, like, I don't want to essentially tell the whole story on here and not have a book, right?
	Yeah, so how, okay.
	But I will answer your question.
	Don't tell me the whole story, but can you just tell me the whole, like, basically a captive?
	So you were like chained down in his basement.
	Well, it was like he had the phone, he had, he had the phone, he had the keys.
	This is part of the reason why I've learned self-defense, the way he would like hold my neck and put my arm on his neck and stuff.
	And he just would drug me and get me to be quiet.
	And it was kind of like this situation where I was kind of being drugged and drug around.
	And all the communication that was going to my family was through him.
	That's crazy.
	Is this gentleman in prison for the he is dead?
	Not for different, not for different horrible things.
	He's dead.
	As soon as I started making reports, he did that himself.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	Hence the reason I'm 35 and unmarried.
	You know what I mean?
	There's a lot of reasons not be married.
	Yeah.
	The drugs, was it like, can you say which ones?
	Yeah, it was heroin and meth.
	Oh, yeah.
	He was.
	That's why you care about him.
	Yeah, I get it.
	Was it ever a speedball?
	I think he did do that, but I know that was like the mix of the two, right?
	When you mix a sedative and a, what's it called?
	A stimulant.
	It's a speedball.
	What's that he like put in your body?
	Swiper.
	I don't know if that's what I don't.
	I don't even know what he put in my body.
	He was taking a speedball, right?
	Yeah.
	What is this guy's, what does this guy's family say about the fact that you're going to put all this in a book and he's not alive?
	He actually, he doesn't, his mother is also gone.
	His dad is living in Wisconsin and doesn't really care what's said, you know?
	And his brother's on the streets.
	So you said, and he also said this man sleep deprived you and there was starvation.
	Yeah, so that's part of the grooming.
	That's how they kind of get into your head: they'll sleep deprive you.
	They'll deprive you of sleep, deprive you of food.
	What was the first drug you?
	Yeah, what was the first red flag?
	The first red flag was the first time that he drugged me.
	And I should have ran.
	Right.
	I should have ran then.
	So it was morning time.
	He told me that he gave me a cup I thought it was Theraflu.
	You know, that tea.
	And it wasn't tea.
	It was from methamphetamine bong.
	And so I started showing symptoms and they all thought it was funny.
	And that was the first red flag.
	Okay.
	Were you dealing with your weight issues around his tongue?
	No, I didn't have weight issues until after.
	Okay.
	The notes are a bit out of order, but there's another thing.
	You got ghosted for two years.
	What was happening is you didn't know what Netflix and chill meant.
	So I would say yes and try to talk about a series or movies.
	And the person would just stop talking.
	It took you two years to realize?
	Yeah.
	So the whole Netflix and chill thing that was going on that was like, let's fuck.
	Let's Netflix and chill.
	Let's fuck.
	People would ask me online, do you want to Netflix and chill?
	And I'd be like, yes.
	Oh my God.
	I love Stranger Things or I love this other TV show.
	And then they would just like never say anything to me again.
	And I never thought anything of it.
	I was just like, oh, they don't want to hang out.
	You know?
	And then it took like two years.
	And it had, I heard and I found out in passing what it actually was.
	So he left you two years and came back two years later?
	No.
	This is just.
	I've been ghosting for two years.
	This is just like random dating I was doing, right?
	I was just dating over the course of two years.
	Oh, you mean so in the course of two years, people were ghosting you?
	Yeah, because I didn't, because I misunderstood what Netflix and Chill was.
	So you weren't actually fucking them?
	No.
	They just would invite you to Netflix and chill.
	You would turn it down and then they wouldn't.
	I wouldn't turn it down.
	I would say like, yeah, that's Netflix and Chill.
	Let's watch Stranger Things.
	Yeah, and I didn't know.
	Yeah.
	You had some Stranger Things for you.
	Yeah.
	That's funny.
	It was funny.
	But I mean, wouldn't they still invite you over to watch Stranger Things?
	No.
	They would just stop talking to me.
	I don't know.
	Because they wanted to Netflix and they're like, to see the show, and then they would switch up when you got there, or you just never would show up for like, would they invite you to Netflix And Chill.
	And then you got there, they tried to have sex with you, or I never showed up for Netflix And Chilling.
	Yeah, I never even got that far.
	So why is it that you say you got ghosted?
	Well because like, I feel like the ghosting is just like like, I mean like mild ghosted.
	They just stopped, they just stopped talking to me on the line or whatever you know, and it's over.
	Yeah yeah um, but isn't it the case like, if a guy wants to, if if a guy would say uh hey, I want to come over to your apartment to watch a movie, let's say, and you're like, oh great, I love this particular movie, they still show up to watch the movie because they still have the idea that there could be some sex involved right, even if you tell them the movie and this type of thing yeah, but Netflix And Chill was a very in their head, isn't it?
	It was a very specific thing.
	Netflix And Chill was very specific on what it meant.
	It just meant, let's have sex, okay.
	Um, you said you converted to being Catholic because you're okay, not going into that.
	Can't say yeah, I'm not going into that.
	You're writing about your experiences of being captive.
	The guy deprived you of sleep, food.
	He brainwashed you, keep you around for okay.
	And then you, your neurological disorder is called neurofibromatosis, that's correct.
	You have tumors on your spine and brain, reason why you're small.
	I'm trying to.
	I'll come back to some of this other stuff later.
	Let me get two chats.
	We got to move things quickly here.
	Lucas, from earlier two continued.
	I debate this shit with you after a long day's work.
	What's my incentive to share?
	Provide my seven figures with you?
	Why do I care?
	I have a 12 year old daughter.
	That's why.
	Oh, still don't understand.
	All right, thank you Lucas, do appreciate it.
	We have another one here from Lucas coming in.
	Thank you for the message via Streamlabs, aesthetic mediocrities combined with hubris and incessant, vapid verbal flatulence after a 12 to 14 hour workday, who in God's name will bear that cross and marry that?
	I guess Simpson suckers about, Lucas.
	Thank you very much for the Streamlabs message.
	I do very much appreciate it, thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Do you guys want to respond to this?
	He's saying hubris incessant vap, vapid verbal flatulence and aesthetic mediocrity.
	Um, it's like some Shakespearean roast or some shit.
	and you're not as cute as you think you is that's what you're trying to say it hit him quite hard okay uh go ahead lily do the banana segment what am i doing you wanted a banana earlier you ate you ate okay fine you're lost you're lost all right um let's see i think we'll come back to some of your stuff a little later i need to get into the questionnaire though to Get things moving.
	Destiny and Peyton.
	Do you have any disagreements with the show host?
	You guys simply wrote, both of you simply wrote misogyny.
	And I don't know if this is also the case for you.
	Unfortunately, your questionnaire did not include that one.
	Yeah, I don't think it had that on.
	Okay, so it doesn't apply to me.
	Maybe it's safe to assume, though, that you would have wrote that too.
	So, maybe you guys have seen the show then?
	I was, I haven't seen like a full show, but I definitely seen clips on Twitter.
	Right.
	So you think the show is misogynistic, or you think myself or Andrew, I guess, is misogynistic.
	I would say the show.
	Both?
	Okay, first, just so we understand the terms correctly, how do you define misogyny?
	Like, you think men are superior?
	Okay, what about you?
	Yeah, you think men are superior.
	You think we're femcells?
	Usually.
	What's a femcelle?
	What?
	Like an incel, but a female incel.
	Like, how women call men incels as insults, men call women?
	You know what an incel means?
	Hold on.
	First off, no, men never use the term femcelle as an insult.
	Secondly, there's no such thing as a female incel.
	I've seen it on Twitter.
	That's why I said it.
	No woman can be involuntarily involuntarily celibate.
	So I mean, it's not even worth having a conversation about.
	But so, okay, you think that to your first point, you think that we think men are superior.
	What have I based off your answers?
	Answers even tonight.
	Yes.
	Okay, what have I said tonight that would indicate that I think men are superior?
	Well, earlier you were saying how you specifically, Eric can't be.
	Oh, so I'm the massage.
	No, But Eric's Eric's another panelist.
	Okay, so you have not seen any clips of Eric.
	Your accusations about misogyny have to do either with me or Andrew.
	So what examples tonight from me have I indicated that I believe males are superior or whatever?
	I have one when you went.
	I forgot what I said, but she was like, yeah, women don't think that way.
	Women don't think like that.
	Like, we just don't have brains.
	What, though?
	It was just such a generalization and it just sounded like, yeah, you're the type of woman.
	You're not going to be specific, though.
	I just, I was very, I forgot what I said.
	I'm sorry.
	I wish I could roll back the clip.
	But it was a question asked about, oh, what about if women do this and think that men see when you make accusations, you got to be specific about what happens.
	How about this?
	You guys filled this out before the start of the show.
	What before the start of the show would establish myself or the show as misogynistic?
	I wish I could pull up one of y'all clips.
	Which clip?
	Go ahead.
	Here, how about we start with Destiny?
	Destiny, what is something I have said that is misogynistic?
	I think that the show kind of has that rep. So that's kind of what I come to.
	Okay, sure.
	What?
	I was like, what?
	Mentally prepared.
	Okay, what has led to the women?
	Sure.
	What has led to that reputation?
	Maybe like the arguments being mostly based on men and women And like what they bring to the table, and like, what are they?
	How would that be misogynistic?
	Even though.
	Just your guys' arguments.
	Which are, yeah, which one?
	There's so many.
	Okay, give me one.
	I have a stone brain.
	I think y'all confuse a male's perspective as being misogynistic.
	Maybe.
	No, because I argue with men all the time.
	And you could just tell when somebody like hates women versus like when they're in the middle of the moment.
	You can tell when dudes want a woman worshiper versus a man who's not afraid to be objective with a woman.
	I think y'all get it twisted.
	Y'all think because a man is objective and he's challenging how you think, that he thinks he's better than women.
	And y'all think a guy that's willing to just say, oh, yeah, you're right, you're right.
	That he's a real man.
	No, he just rather he's afraid to lose you.
	Some men are not afraid to lose you at the sake of their own self-respect and sanity.
	But that doesn't mean they're misogynistic.
	I'm not talking about men that's afraid to lose me.
	I'm talking about people that I argue with on the daily.
	Yeah, let's get back to the conversation, though.
	So what have I said that's misogynistic?
	Can I answer a question with a question?
	Hold on.
	I'll let you come in, but they made the claim, so they have to.
	i like you banana it just seems wow you guys really love to save other women go ahead It seems like you view women as objects.
	Stop.
	Guys, you gotta kindly shut the fuck up and let her talk.
	Go ahead.
	That's not kind.
	I don't know.
	I don't give a fuck.
	I'm talking to you.
	I clearly don't.
	It seems like you guys view women as objects more than actual women.
	Okay, what have I said tonight that would indicate that I view women as objects?
	Well, saying that we don't think or that we don't have brains.
	When did I say that?
	I didn't even say that.
	He's manipulating you, girl.
	How's it manipulation?
	Because it's manipulation when you ask for an example, knowing that you could just rewind the clip and just go look back at the stream.
	You already know what you said.
	No, I just said that.
	We forgot what you said.
	No, we've been here before the show.
	But before the show.
	So it's very hard to pick up like, oh, yeah, this is a bad thing.
	But the questions are asked based on their perception of him before the show started.
	He's just making, he makes misogynistic remarks.
	I will say this.
	So what?
	I cannot remember.
	You literally can't provide one thing.
	I already said what you said when you say women don't think like that.
	In response to one of the questions about women thinking that men, it was something about women thinking that men like care about them in another way or something like that.
	I'm upset that I don't remember, but I just think it's weird to say, oh, just because you don't remember it, that means I'm not misogynistic.
	Like, no.
	So if I blamed you for a crime and I can't prove it, does that substantiate my accusation?
	Well, it's not like you're going to be on trial and you're going to be in the courtroom without any evidence.
	I don't have my phone to pull up and I don't have the memory to remember what he said three hours ago.
	But do you remember misogynistic?
	It was before.
	Forget whatever I said.
	I remember what he said.
	I forgot what the question was asked to me.
	Tell me.
	I'll just go ahead and what.
	I'll just grant to you that maybe I said something misogynistic during the show.
	You filled this out before the show.
	What have I said that is misogynistic?
	I wasn't really talking about you specifically when I said that.
	I was talking about the show.
	Sure.
	What is misogynistic about the show?
	Just the way that you guys frame questions.
	You guys ask women questions to kind of upset them and like questions that you have More information on than us, knowing that we're kind of like random and we don't have time to get information and knowledge to back up our arguments versus you guys have all these statistics and all this stuff to back up exactly.
	Statistics and graphs that y'all planning instead of telling us what we need to, instead of telling us a conversation at hand.
	You can have more time.
	You can make an argument that that's unfair.
	What the fuck does that have to do with misogyny?
	It's misogyny because you're doing it and everybody that comes on here, majority of the time, it's mostly women that don't have the information to argue back.
	Seven of y'all versus one of me.
	You can't collective with your collective brain power overwhelm of you, though.
	You have technology and you're googling all these statistics and well, most of us i'd be.
	I can make these arguments without the graphs and infographics.
	That's just to clarify points.
	You guys bring up these, these claims about uh, the college education voting.
	You guys are just wrong because you bought into the feminist propaganda and I have to correct it and calling us feminists.
	You are feminists, you're all feminists, okay.
	Wait, she has to say her thing.
	Go ahead, say it.
	How is your point of view wrong?
	No, I believe in truth and facts.
	Your point of view is irrelevant if the facts are irrelevant like we don't have the facts right here to back it up your point here.
	If your point of view is men have had voting rights for a thousand years and women women haven't, that's just factually inaccurate.
	It's not.
	Hold on stop, stop.
	No, i'm, i'm providing an example.
	You were just factually incorrect when it came to women's voting.
	No, I used that as an example when I brought it up.
	You asked me, how was she wrong?
	What was say?
	It was a reply to an answer, you asked me.
	I believe the question was, you asked me, um, what have women, you know, come throughout time um, fighting for, and stuff like that.
	So I brought up the things that we were fighting for, our rights to vote education, abortion.
	So I was answering questions.
	You said, okay, here's the, here's the genesis of that entire conversation.
	You said that you're a woman's advocate and the first thing you went to I don't know why, in what way would you still be advocating a hundred years later, when women have already had the right to vote.
	You asked me about things over time.
	It was the first thing that popped in my head, no no no, no.
	You said you're a women's advocate.
	You said you're a women's advocate.
	I'm like, what do you advocate for?
	And you're like, women's right to vote.
	You have the right to vote.
	How is that?
	No originally, when I told you what, what I practice and how i'm, you know advocating, it was safety.
	And safety from what?
	From from danger, from people trying to take advantage of you from.
	Oh, are you sorry?
	You're wait, hold on that's.
	Everybody's a victim of that.
	That's a really.
	So you could take it both ways.
	You know, I can only speak for women.
	I only know how to protect myself as a woman.
	I can't speak on how to protect myself as a man.
	I'm not a man.
	I mean that's a very Massandra statement for you to say that you need to protect yourselves from men.
	You're trying to paint all men.
	I didn't say, I didn't say protect myself for everybody.
	Oh, let's talk about the bear question.
	Then let me ask y'all the question, do y'all?
	What's the opposite of misogyny Missandry, Misandry?
	So is the view Misandras?
	Is what view missography?
	The view?
	It's a show called The View.
	Is that a Massandra show?
	Oh, i've never seen it.
	Yeah, have you heard of it?
	So y'all never heard of the show that.
	Come on with Whoopie Gober and all the women.
	So you would think it's.
	You think that's what Missandra's show?
	Yeah, I saw.
	I mean, I saw a little bit this morning.
	The only other positive is that.
	Do you think women's today's rap?
	Are you familiar with Cardi B and these Meghan Astalia?
	Do you think their music is misandrous?
	No.
	Why not?
	Well, I don't know the words, but.
	Do you think their music is misandrist?
	Similar in how ways men speak down on women.
	You know, I've seen it on both sides.
	So do you think their music is misandrous?
	Cardi B, Megan Astalia.
	It's really not that.
	Is their music misandrous?
	Yes or no?
	Wait, why do you think it is?
	I'm asking you.
	I don't know.
	I'm just asking you, do you think their music is misandrous?
	Did this speak from a position where they're talking down to men?
	Oh, like saying, like, fuck these niggas or something?
	Wait, wait, fuck them and get some money.
	You can't say that word.
	But you gotta stop using that word.
	So you don't know if their music misandris when they make music about, you know, FM if he ain't got no money, like regarding, like, this, like, dismissing him to a financial object.
	Like, y'all sexual, like, y'all say we sexually objectify y'all.
	Do you think their music economically objectifies men?
	Yes.
	So can that be considered misandrous?
	Um, I don't think so.
	Of course not.
	So, okay, going back to you, you said that, like, I objectify women.
	How do I objectify women?
	What do you say, the labia?
	How would that, hold on, how would that actually be objectifying women?
	You're gonna just look at yourself in the monitor or are you gonna respond?
	Um, I don't know what to say.
	God man.
	What was the question again?
	Well, when I asked you, how have I been misogynistic?
	And you're like, oh, you misogynistic.
	Okay, let me correct it.
	You've been perfect.
	Okay.
	Well, you said I was misogynist.
	I don't think I'm misogynistic.
	She concedes the argument, though.
	She pointed to me, though.
	I don't like arguing.
	Why do you think I'm misogynist?
	I forgot what you said now, but I had it earlier.
	That's the thing.
	See, my thing is with y'all.
	That's what I think.
	The issue is this.
	Women, y'all come to these conversations because I've done panels with a lot of women.
	Y'all have these preconceived notions of what you think you know.
	And then when a man has the information to counter it, you say stuff like, well, I don't have all the data.
	So why the fuck are you defending something that you're unlearned about?
	I didn't even know we were going to be talking about it.
	I'm talking about in generalities.
	Because whether you knew it, I don't, I could be, I can come to it, for example.
	He could say, Brian could say, hey, we're talking about dating tonight.
	But I still might have information.
	He might throw me a question about something that has nothing to do with dating.
	I still might have an answer for it.
	So whether I'm prepared to talk about it tonight or not doesn't mean I don't have the data for it.
	If you're so concerned with women's rights, if you're so concerned with the diaspora between or the disconnection between what men can do and what women can do, you should have that information readily available to your mind if you're always talking about your defense of it.
	Another thing to think about here was that you guys brought up statistics, not us.
	And so after you brought up statistics, I clarified the statistics.
	I didn't use them to even make an argument, just clarified what the statistics were.
	In this case, the claim, hang on, the exact claim.
	The exact claim was how many women were getting abortions due to SA.
	That was your claim.
	And so you said that's what the statistics back.
	So all I did was clarify the statistics.
	Didn't use them as a weapon, just clarified what they are.
	How was that misinformation?
	I'm not saying like the stats was making it like misogyny.
	I'm just saying y'all have information to back up your arguments and we don't.
	And I feel like knowing that and inviting us and not telling us what we're going to talk about is not fair.
	Like let me not say, oh, that's misogynist, but it's definitely not fair.
	And I feel like the arguments that we're talking about circulate around misogyny.
	Well, let us assume for a moment this is true.
	I think it makes that sense.
	Let us assume for just a second that in every single show, these same exact questions are asked over and over and over again.
	Because that's exactly what I'm saying.
	Because that's what happens.
	And now let us assume again that there's like, oh, I don't know, over 150 episodes that you could go watch.
	Isn't your failure of preparation, even though these questions are asked every single panel for every single panel that comes on?
	Isn't the failure of preparation there on you and not on the panelists?
	There's no question you've been asked that the every single other group of women isn't asked because y'all judging the show based on clips.
	So why don't you do your due diligence to see the whole show?
	Because you've made conclusive statements on clips you've seen, but you haven't done your due diligence to see what the whole show is about.
	So that to me leads back to what you claim as misogyny as you're not prepared to defend what you believe.
	You're just following a preset of thinking that you never really did your due diligence on.
	And then when you're challenged on it, you play victim.
	Like if you don't know about something, stop defending what you don't know.
	Learn it.
	That goes for male, female.
	I'm not even as concerned with that as I am.
	Just what I don't understand is every single panel of women who come in, the same questions are asked of them.
	Every single one.
	Everything from the rating scale to the bow video to all of this.
	Every single panel that I've been now I've been on 76 times, I think.
	Every single one that's the same questions asked to a different panel of women.
	If that's the case, then you at least have the last 70-something episodes to choose from to do just a modicum of research.
	How would that be blamed on the host?
	I'm not blaming the host personally.
	Well, I mean, but who should you be blaming?
	You should be blaming you, right?
	You're unprepared.
	That's very dangerous.
	You have 70 episodes to choose from.
	I'm hurt.
	Listen.
	Okay, we're going to move on to the next thing.
	What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
	Minimum, a million.
	What's ideal?
	A million, minimum.
	What would be ideal?
	Oh, hold on.
	Multi-million.
	It's okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Have you ever dated a guy who makes a million dollars a year?
	Yeah.
	How did it work out?
	He cheated on me.
	I bet he did.
	And then what about you?
	I said 80K.
	Oh, but you.
	I said 40,000.
	All right.
	You put 50,000 here.
	Oh, that's 40,000.
	What about you?
	I think I answered this question stating.
	It depends on our lifestyle.
	What I did choose.
	What do you want the lifestyle to be?
	Okay, so you want kids?
	Yeah, that changes.
	I mean, how many kids do I want?
	How many kids do you want?
	I am accepting what life has for me and what God is.
	Do you want to stay in Southern California?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	300 kids, good, but a million would be better.
	Yeah, you wrote millions, but 300,000 plus, depending what year it is.
	So like if you time travel back, do you want to go back in time or what?
	Depending on what year I get married, like obviously money's not going to be the same value when I'm older.
	Do y'all know the percentage of people that make that amount of money?
	That's small.
	Very few people.
	But so you would rather bypass, you would rather take a roll of dice on a one in a million chance for a life partner than to give someone a chance that may be workable.
	I just want to know how y'all workable depending on the life.
	She said 300,000.
	80K.
	That's I ain't meditative.
	80K is less than money.
	No, no.
	And you said a million.
	I think you're just playing.
	No, you ain't serious.
	No, I'm serious.
	You're going to be seriously by yourself.
	Wait till 1 million and then a million.
	Like, if I meet him and he doesn't have a million dollars yet, but he strives to make a million.
	Right.
	Like, that's fine.
	Why does he need to make a million?
	Or like him.
	A high-value man is y'all crazy.
	Good luck, man.
	Life will teach you.
	Life will teach you.
	So you think it's like impossible for a high-value man to do?
	I could jump off this bridge.
	I could jump off this building and land on my feet.
	It's possible, but is it likely?
	Probably not.
	So if y'all want to keep banking your life on a dice roll, you have the right.
	See, I'm not one of them dudes that tell you you shouldn't do this.
	Do what the fuck you want.
	Just know what you're asking for.
	Know the probability and the likelihood.
	You have a small window to have children and be this beautiful woman.
	You want to roll that 15-year window on meeting a millionaire and expecting him to focus strictly on you in a world where all women want his money?
	Good luck.
	Well, I'm not saying he needs to be a millionaire now.
	But he shouldn't.
	No man needs to be a millionaire to get a woman.
	Y'all need to lower your value.
	I know you're attractive and all that, but that don't mean you deserve a man with a damn business.
	Doesn't this tie into the conversation with money?
	Yes, because money doesn't make a man.
	This ties into the conversation we were having earlier about like, do women need to lower their standards or do men need to step up?
	And it's like, you got women who want a guy who makes a million dollars.
	That's like a point.
	What's the, I mean, it's definitely less than 1%.
	It's even less than that.
	It's a guy who makes a million dollars.
	That's like.
	And y'all keep, y'all, this is another thing.
	Y'all don't respect a man's natural instinct.
	So men are naturally polygamous, naturally.
	They tone that down for you.
	So once a man is empowered financially, the more money a man has, the more financially astute he becomes, the more access he have, that brings his nature to the surface.
	So you're trying to tone down a rich man and you want him to strictly deal with you, you don't understand man at all.
	And when y'all evaluating your mates, you're not taking into account the natural instincts and nature of a man at all.
	You're assuming.
	He's naturally a hoe.
	I believe that.
	That's not a hoe, though.
	That's the truth.
	That's not a hoe.
	How is it a hoe?
	We're just talking about it.
	You can go and buy 100.
	We're not talking about just fucking.
	We're talking about just men are naturally polygamous outside of sex.
	Multiple women, there's going to be some STDs and all type of shit.
	If they let them in that mix.
	That's not guaranteed.
	But that's not, it's called getting checked.
	Y'all act like it's guaranteed to get something by being with people.
	You can get checked and find out.
	So let's stop acting weird like that's impossible.
	You can find out what they have and deal with them.
	But what I'm saying is, regardless of how you feel about it, a man is not naturally polygamous nowhere in nature.
	It ain't got nothing to do with...
	You just said he was polygamous.
	I say he's not naturally monogamous.
	Excuse me.
	Nowhere in nature is the male species monogamous.
	And nothing about his biology makes him monogamous, even take sex out of it.
	Men oftentimes have positions and be in positions where they're benefiting the many.
	Like you'll see a minister.
	He talks to the whole congregation.
	A lot of women have put their emotional and mental trust into this one man.
	That's still a polygamous situation.
	It's just not sex is involved.
	So men are just naturally doing for the many.
	That's why a man can have 20 women pregnant while you sit down for nine months and be with that one child.
	So y'all keep comparing yourselves to men.
	It's just not the same thing.
	Men are not naturally monogamous.
	And the more you empower a man, the more likely he's not to be.
	Especially in today's time, we know most women just want him for his money.
	Why the fuck would he just pick one of y'all?
	So that man that sat and got 20 women pregnant, he's not a hoe?
	Not if he can take care of them?
	If I got $80 million You're crazy If I got $100 million And I want Nick Cannon has all the money And has 12 different families And those are 12 broken homes And 12 women agree to the shit because why could they?
	Most folks.
	That's y'all group.
	But most women put value of money over their bottom line.
	You even said, you said, hey, if he got a couple dollars, maybe.
	So money's, that says something about women.
	If a man could get you to lower your standards of being a woman for money, that says more about you than him because you ain't got to take the money.
	You taking the money because you rather have money than be a respectable woman.
	Now, if I'm taking care of all them kids, how am I a hoe?
	I got 20 like Cam Newton.
	All them kids live with him.
	Of them was born at the same time, so that meant he went to fuck one lady one day and then the next thing.
	How does that make him a bad parent to leave them kids?
	I didn't say nothing about parenting.
	I said, Is he a hoe?
	And you said, No, that doesn't make him a hoe.
	I mean, I don't think that makes you if they agree to it.
	How is you a hoe?
	Especially if you could take care of him because you could be just like a lot of people.
	A lot of men out here not taking care of their women.
	I'm not talking about just a random person.
	But the niggas aren't going to be able to take care of all those kids.
	Polygamous, not because it takes no effort for you to get sex.
	You don't have to do nothing.
	You don't have to be smart.
	You don't have to be witty.
	You don't have to be accomplished.
	You just have to be appealing physically.
	A man has to have something or just money to get a woman to give him his body.
	So he has to acquire some type of skill set that y'all don't have to do.
	So when a man has multiple women, he's acquired some type of attraction.
	A lot of y'all don't even like a dude who don't got a girl.
	So y'all like when it's like you see a dude walking down the street with a regular looking chick that's not attractive, you might overlook him.
	But if you come down the street with Rihanna, you're going to look at him a little different.
	So y'all are even attracted to men who attract other women.
	I don't know about y'all, but I mean, yeah, some women.
	Yeah.
	Okay, but also, if a man does have money, but he's lacking like personality, character, values, I don't think I would be attracted to him.
	Oh, yeah.
	So they say that.
	Yeah, not only does he have to make a million dollars, he has to be tall, good looking, single.
	I put anybody on.
	All these other, like, oh, he needs something.
	He's looking for money, so it don't matter.
	He's got that personality.
	That's personality.
	What does that mean to have personality?
	A million dollars?
	Come on, sweetheart.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Sorry.
	Only.
	No, and you don't know what I have.
	Wait, what?
	You work.
	You make a million dollars a year?
	I have.
	You have?
	Yeah.
	Doing what?
	YouTube, having my own clothing brand, having my own personality.
	Wait, YouTube?
	That's cool.
	But this is the thing.
	We don't care about that shit.
	Wait, so a woman having a million dollars?
	You asked her a question.
	No, no, I agree, but I'm saying, but that's how many people are talking about.
	$700,000.
	High-value woman right here.
	I mean, according to a woman, we don't care about your money.
	Yeah, men don't care about your success.
	I hope they don't.
	But he asked a question about it.
	He asked a question about that.
	So don't say, oh, I was asked how much you mentioned.
	Which is a response after.
	No, I don't care about it.
	No, because it doesn't make you more attractive that you don't.
	I'll explain it.
	I was asking her.
	She's asking a question she didn't care about if it makes her talk about it.
	How's it going?
	Because we don't care that you make a lot of money.
	That's not because we answered the question that you asked, and then you're going to refute it.
	Oh, we don't give a fuck anything.
	No, because she said it as if that makes y'all deserve a man who makes $100 million.
	I'm just going to say, oh, fuck the right answer.
	It's no wrong all right, man.
	I got this.
	I'll explain this.
	She said she makes a million dollars.
	I was asking.
	Made.
	Huh?
	Made.
	Yeah.
	And then I was asking how many subscribers she has because if she was like, oh, I have like 5,000 subscribers.
	I'm like, there's no way you're making a million dollars on YouTube with 5,000 subscribers.
	That's why I was asking.
	It wasn't to like dunk on her and be like, I was not waiting, though.
	I'm the age.
	Oh, no, but you're going to respond multiple times.
	No, but it is true.
	We don't care.
	We care about the women.
	I agree.
	I know men don't care, but it's like, that's not what I'm saying.
	I think tone and delivery just rubs y'all the wrong way.
	So you think, oh, he has to hate women.
	I don't hate women.
	I think women are beautiful.
	I just think a lot of your concepts about men is just a little off.
	And the things that y'all think we value, we just fucking don't.
	We do not care that you make a lot of money.
	That doesn't equate to you being a great mate.
	A man will take a girl that's working on the fries who's sweet and treats him right and not materialistic than a baddie who makes $100,000 a year.
	I'm telling you how men think.
	You believe it if you want, but this is what it is.
	We don't care about how much money you make.
	That doesn't increase your value.
	I agree with that.
	Okay, so hey, we good.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We're going to get into the next topic then.
	Give me just one sec, guys.
	One moment here.
	We have, let's see.
	This is Eric's favorite topic.
	This is only for you, Peyton.
	Payden, the question is: can people be racist towards white people to which you said no?
	Yes.
	And, oh my God.
	Okay, so can I argue with you from facts from my phone?
	She wants a lifeline.
	Let's give it to her.
	Lisa, did you want us to worry about it?
	Yeah, whatever, whatever you want, whatever faction.
	I actually, I saved a tweet that I wanted to bring up today.
	Can we search?
	We can search for it.
	Is it got some data attached or just someone's opinion?
	It was like a thread that did.
	That's why I'm like, but I don't have it to show you guys.
	I could pull it up real quick.
	But so, just how about this?
	Let's define racism first.
	Okay, yeah.
	You want to Google it?
	Like, go ahead.
	Oh, sure, so I can read it.
	I'll tell you guys.
	Any stats you want, I'll pull them up for you.
	Okay, so, all right.
	Racism by the dictionary definition.
	Okay, actually, here's the thing: there's personal racism and then there's systemic racism, which leads to oppression of a race.
	You can have personal racism, which I feel like technically to me, I feel like technically black people can't be racist because we don't have the power to actually be racist.
	But I do think we can be prejudiced.
	We can stereotype.
	We can have issues against people of other races.
	That's not right at all.
	That's just hateful and discriminatory.
	That's hateful and discriminatory.
	So, in that sense, I don't think we could systematically be racist because we don't have the power in the government in the world to do anything about it.
	We are the most oppressed race.
	So, you're saying we could be racist on an individual level, but we can't be systematically racist.
	Yes.
	And I agree with that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Should I do the Obama hypothetical?
	She answered it right, though.
	Most people don't say that.
	She's right.
	I agree with that.
	But I'm just saying, like, technically speaking, like, when I think of personal racism, I don't think, like, oh, I'm being racist to somebody that's a different race.
	I just think, oh, I'm being prejudiced.
	Oh, I'm being raised.
	I mean, it's still racist.
	Racist is racist.
	Wait, can I ask a couple clarifying questions?
	Excluding white people from this question, can there be racism between other minority groups, between minority groups?
	Yeah.
	Like, for example, can like a Hispanic be racist towards a black person?
	Yes.
	Can the Hispanic be racist towards an Asian person?
	Yes.
	Can a black person be racist towards an Asian person?
	Technically, to me, I would say no.
	But in a sense of discriminating and being prejudiced and stereotyping, yes.
	Can a black person be racist towards a Latino?
	Like, I would just say the same thing that I just said.
	How about this?
	Can a black person be racist towards a Native American?
	Yes.
	I mean, I'm thinking, but when I think of Native American, well, I guess that's technically not black.
	Like Cherokee.
	But why do you think it's different, though?
	Racism is racism.
	Okay, okay, never mind then.
	Native Americans are not black.
	Why do you keep saying yes and no for different?
	Because if racism is just racism, systematic racism is when you're preventing people from upward mobility.
	Right.
	But if I'm being racist to a person, it's still racist.
	I just don't have systematic power behind it, but it's still racist.
	Because when I think of the dictionary definition, the dictionary term of racism, I think about the fact that it includes the word power when you look it up on certain dictionaries.
	That's why I said if y'all want to pull it up, but some places have it written differently.
	Just Google racism definition.
	Let's start there.
	I'm willing to kind of just grant this, just for the sake of argument, that the idea here of power, for instance.
	Can you tell me what power you think the average white person has in comparison to the average black person?
	More freedom.
	To do what?
	Live your best life.
	What?
	What?
	They're around me, Paul donated $200.
	Yay, black people have never been president or on the Supreme Court or in Congress or on a company.
	But truthfully speaking, the president doesn't really have that much power.
	So even when Barack Obama was president, like that didn't really help black people.
	Andrew, I'll let you have the back and forth.
	I do want to, since she brought up Obama, I'll just give the hypothetical side of it.
	So, okay, Barack Obama, when he was president, this is hypothetical.
	Let's say he was looking to hire a janitor for the White House, but he refuses to hire a janitor because the janitor is white.
	Is that racism?
	He refuses.
	Some people will say that's racism.
	Would I say that's racism?
	No, I feel like that makes you yes.
	It makes you prejudice.
	It makes you, I would say that's more so like a hotep.
	I don't know what that is.
	That's racist.
	But I would say that's white supremacists.
	It's like the white supremacy.
	It's like the black version of white supremacy.
	No, but is it?
	No, no, no, no, but okay, is it racist?
	That's not true.
	Hold on, but is it racist?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	Okay, it is racist.
	But it's not, but to me, it's not systematic because that's just one instance.
	And that doesn't represent all the black people in power.
	You're right, but you admit it's racism.
	From the way that you guys are going to take it, I'm going to just go ahead and give it to y'all.
	Yes.
	But to push back to you, Andrew, real quick.
	I just want to make sure I get this right.
	If it's power plus prejudice, then you would need to show me how the average white man versus the average black man, how the average white man has more power than the average black man.
	I mean, honestly, I did have my thread saved.
	I have my thread saved, but y'all won't let me get my phone.
	I can tell you, I will say this.
	The white man has the power of perception over the black man.
	In other words, if a person from a random walk of life would see me walking down and see Andrew walking down, most of the time, even black people, they will assume higher of the white person more than the black person.
	Now, that's not your fault personally.
	Hang on, that's not power, though.
	You're alluding to.
	I say a power of perception.
	Yeah, but you're alluding to privilege, then.
	If that's the case, then that would mean that.
	That's still some type of power.
	Hang on, that would mean that women were more powerful than men because they're perceived as being less threatening than men are.
	That's true.
	If that's what you're utilizing as a perspective of trust.
	If that's what you're utilizing as a perspective of power, then you would have to say that women actually have power over men, and so therefore we're not.
	I believe you do, especially when it comes to being beautiful and having pretty privilege.
	Women do have a lot of power over men.
	You will see men giving all their money to women because they are.
	I want you to actually listen to what I'm saying first before you respond because I don't think you actually heard me.
	I want you to actually think about the entailment of this.
	If you're saying that the perception of being privileged in society equals power, then this would mean that women actually are oppressing men because they have the perception of privilege.
	Do you agree with that?
	No.
	Okay, well then that's the entailment of your position, so it makes no sense.
	I just feel like race versus gender is like two separate, different oppressed groups.
	No, but we're not talking about that.
	We're talking about power.
	Power is the delineating factor.
	So if it's power, power plus gender power is two different things to me.
	Yeah, but power plus prejudice is racism.
	I say how.
	Power plus prejudice is racism.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Just stop for 10 seconds.
	Okay, I barely said a word to you tonight.
	Just 10 seconds.
	It's all matter.
	That's true.
	Okay.
	If it is the case that you say it takes power plus prejudice, power plus prejudice, that equals racism.
	And I ask you, okay, well, then how is it the average white person, right, has more power than the average black person?
	You say, well, it's due to the power of perception because white people are perceived as being less threatening than black people.
	If that's the case, why wouldn't we extend this also to the opposite sex and say, well, if you're perceived as being less of a threat, how is that not power for you?
	That's true.
	I just feel like I see what you're trying to say, but I still think it's two completely different comparisons.
	Like, I don't think comparing race is the same to comparing gender personally, especially as a black woman.
	I know they're different things or different theories.
	So I just can't see that.
	I can't see how you're trying to make that parallel for me.
	Yeah, but anytime you make a comparison, if I was going to say, what does that fruit taste like, right?
	I've never tasted it before.
	What would you compare it to?
	The same fruit or a different fruit?
	A different fruit.
	A different fruit.
	That's how you make comparisons.
	You make a comparison between one thing to another thing so that you can draw an analogy so that we can understand the point of view.
	But if the point of view is power plus prejudice, I'm willing to grant that viewpoint from your view.
	If that's the case, though, you need to also grant that viewpoint towards gender norms.
	Because if it's just power equals being less threatening, then you have way more power than men.
	As a black woman, no, I would not have more power than a white man.
	Are she still less threatening than a black man?
	Perceived as less threatening.
	Oh, wait, is a black woman less threatening than a black man?
	Yes.
	Perceived as threatening.
	So then that would be power.
	It is power.
	There's power in the agenda.
	So the white man more powerful than the black man?
	Huh?
	So that black women are more powerful than black men.
	No, I'm not sure.
	Black women also have privilege on par with white men because they're perceived as less threatening.
	When we're talking about perception, I see where you're saying.
	Yes, I would say that the black woman is less, yeah, I would say that the black woman's perception is going to be viewed as more safer than the black man's perception.
	But when we're comparing a black man to a white man, I do not know.
	Now I'm comparing a black woman.
	Well, that's what I'm doing.
	If a black woman is perceived as being less threatening than a black man, and a white man is perceived as being less threatening than a black man, then aren't both of them in a privileged situation?
	Yes.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	The black woman and the white man.
	Can you repeat the last part?
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, then I don't understand how it is that white men can't be, you can't be racist towards white men if the perception is that you're less dangerous and the perception of them is they're less dangerous.
	Why, then you're on par with power.
	Systematically speaking, I just don't believe that black people as a whole entire race can oppress white people.
	Like, I just don't think that's going to happen.
	That could ever happen because we were the ones who were slaves in shackles.
	And that is something that we still see, you know, we still see negative effects of slavery to this day.
	And to me, I just feel like it doesn't compare.
	I see what you're trying to compare.
	Just like white men who were taken by Barbary pirates and were enslaved, and various y'all to this day.
	How has that affected y'all systematically to this day?
	Yes.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Listen, there's no, when you talk about systemic racism, the idea that because black people were imprisoned against their will, they were, okay, or indentured servitudes, they were that too.
	So were the Irish, so were the Italians, so were many white groups.
	Okay, that would also bleed over necessarily.
	The whole idea of intersectionality that you're talking about is that we look at key group demographics to see who's the most oppressed based on what.
	The problem is you have to take that all the way.
	You can't just stop at once at one kind of like overview of oppression.
	You literally have to intersect every idea.
	In this case, then we would have to do the same thing with gender.
	And if it is true that you think that white people themselves are just perceived as less threatening, therefore privileged, you would have to give that to yourself as well.
	I do give that to women being perceived as less threatening.
	So then you're more powerful.
	She just don't think that power applies to when comparing black women to white men.
	She's saying that she agrees with that.
	Race and gender are two completely different things.
	Like race and gender are two completely different things.
	Then what power do white men have of the average white man that a black woman doesn't?
	Perception.
	Yeah, but you're going to be viewing it as more safe.
	You guys are going to go to school more often.
	Y'all are going to get the better high-paying jobs.
	You guys don't have to worry about who's going to kill you.
	What cop is going to kill you for the color of your skin?
	When you get pulled over, you don't have to worry about, oh, is this cop going to take me to jail just because I'm black?
	Wait, hold on, really quick on the whole police brutality thing.
	You do realize that there are more white men killed by police than that.
	No, hold on.
	Let me be here forever if you guys keep interrupting.
	So, okay.
	You do realize there are more white men, just white men, who are killed by police, than there are women of all races combined.
	And the discrepancy between men and women, the killings there, is greater than the discrepancy that exists between white men and black men.
	So would this be evidence of the police force being sexist?
	I didn't understand your question.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, you're talking about the discrepancy in police brutality and police misconduct and police killings.
	When it comes to police killings, right?
	You're doing a comparison game between white men and black men or black people.
	However, this discrepancy is greater between white men.
	If you compare white men, the amount of police that kill white men, there are more white men that are killed by police than women of all races combined.
	This includes black women, Latina women, Asian women, and white women.
	And this difference between men and women is much greater than the difference of police killings, strictly when comparing between white men and black men.
	Oh, and also, just so you know, black women go to college more than white women do.
	So I don't know where, like, this idea, though, of power, when we're discussing power.
	But what about the black women?
	What I'm asking about.
	What about the high school?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let us assume for a second that black men never go to college and only black women do.
	Okay.
	One of your key points for why it was that you couldn't say that a black woman was as privileged as a white man is because black women have to worry about where they go to school.
	Well, the stats really don't show that.
	They showed, in fact, the opposite.
	So black women enter college at a higher rate than white women.
	Facts.
	Hispanic and black men.
	So the thing is, is that what I'm really looking for here is I'm just looking for the average white guy.
	How is he more privileged than the average black woman?
	How?
	How is the average white guy more privileged than the average black woman?
	Yeah.
	In a lot of ways.
	Answer that.
	Well, let her answer.
	Hang on.
	I'll let him take it away.
	No, you let him take it away.
	Right.
	He's in a lot of ways, but you're not sure.
	The thing is, is like if it's not the case, then that means that at least black women could be racist towards white men, right?
	No.
	No.
	Okay, no.
	But then the power plus privilege doesn't operate that way then.
	There's way more powerful white men in the world than powerful black women.
	Let's be serious.
	Yeah, but I'm talking about the average.
	Do you need an energy drink or something?
	Yeah, it's quite late.
	We're talking about the average white guy.
	Just like some guy who was born in 1040.
	These girls are at the club till 3 a.m. and they're whinging about fucking a lot of people.
	That's monogamistic, assuming that every woman is up in the club with an early age.
	I just got back to my late this morning at 3 a.m.
	Okay, your poor lack of planning has nothing to do with me.
	Well, whatever you think, you're the correct one here.
	Bro, you've been dozing off like you're a fucking drug addict for the past fucking like you hate women.
	Oh my god, there it is, guys.
	How are we being angry?
	We're sleepy.
	She's the one who was talking about boring.
	I thought you said we're boring just now.
	He did.
	So you did say this is boring.
	You said you boring.
	This is literally gaslighting.
	I never said that this is.
	Let's run back to T. Didn't he just say that?
	Okay, if you didn't say that.
	Okay, I thought I heard you.
	I thought when she said boring, I thought she made that shit.
	She said this is boring.
	And so I thought she said we're fucking boring in response to her.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Girls be like, oh.
	We've been here doing the same thing for the past two hours.
	Come on, we're over it.
	Move on.
	She made a knock-knock joke, and the knock-knock joke was, you know, she had like a bad knock-knock joke, and then my response was, you suck and you're boring.
	That was the joke.
	So, just so you know.
	Sorry, I am doing a lot of misogynistic mansplaining this evening in a very calm voice.
	I could totally see where I would be labeled as a complete and total misogynist for being as charitable to your worldview as I could possibly be.
	That seems fair.
	Can I just say this?
	Can I just say this?
	I definitely understand what Andrew's saying.
	In the modern time, I feel like based on the laws and based on a lot of narratives and feminist movements, that the perception is seeing that women of all races in America has caught up to anybody with a privileged position.
	But on the contrary, historically, especially when it comes to America, it's hard to catch up to the assumed perception of the white male.
	I'm not saying it's impossible.
	I'm not saying that people are gaining ground, but it is what it is.
	White men are perceived as less threatening, more intelligent, more advantageous than black people.
	Not saying that y'all do, but a lot of people assume that.
	And then if you want to even break it down, because even you brought up women, white people.
	Is it black people or is it black men?
	I think it's black people.
	But I think black men probably get the worst of it, but I think it's black people, but especially black men.
	But I feel like when you brought up white women, you said that a lot of white women don't go to college, more black women do.
	I think that speaks because I don't know if y'all familiar with the wealth gap.
	Black people don't have what you have, so they're going to probably be in more positions where they have to go to school.
	A lot of white women.
	I'm just saying, hold on.
	A lot of action.
	saying of course but affirmative action had to come about for a reason i'm not saying it's right but it came about because it was a let's not pretend that this country doesn't have a history of discrepancies Now, maybe it's a little more different today, but this country was founded in classism and racism.
	That doesn't mean every white person is racism.
	That doesn't mean every white person has to deal with the brunt of that, but collateral damage is a real thing.
	Like me, I'm tall, I'm dark-skinned.
	People of all races sometimes assume, even my own people, that I'm mean, I'm threatening because of the stigma that come with certain black men.
	Everybody got to deal with the collateral damage of their social group, gender group, like women.
	They got to deal with the collateral damage of the 304s, of the OnlyFans model.
	So men say, hey, I don't know if she's not like that.
	Like the video I did, I said men are standing, women standing too close to the hole, so we can't tell the difference.
	So white men are not, or white people are not, they're not absolved of that collateral damage either.
	It doesn't mean it's right, but it's real.
	And we all have to deal with that.
	So people are going to, you still have an advantage by the basic, the average person of perception.
	They do social experiments overseas all the time.
	There'll be a black guy walking like he's blind and they'll push him and then a white dude do it and they'll they'll bring him.
	So it's not fair.
	It's not your doing or Brian's doing.
	But it happens and we can't pretend that that's not the case.
	Yeah, but the problem with this entire, the entire we got, hey, Andrew, this is like we're about to lose the fucking entire population.
	So, yeah, I gotta let the chats.
	I'm sorry.
	I can let you respond later, Andrew.
	We'll see how much.
	Racism is prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group.
	That is the, by the way, we do have a rage quit.
	That is the definition of racism.
	Do you have objections to this definition?
	The only thing I would say is if you look up racism, it depends on which dictionary that you would look to.
	Because I've seen definitions where they also input the word power or something about systemic.
	But systemic race and racism are two different things, though.
	We shouldn't conflate the two.
	That's true.
	Anybody can be racist, but everybody doesn't have the power to prevent upward mobility based on race.
	And historically, in our recent time, the only person that really had the power to do that in America has been white people.
	Especially the white people.
	All right, go ahead.
	Morgan, can you read this?
	You claim misogyny from men who are married and have multiple daughters, yet have you ever taken a moment of self-reflection to consider that you individually are the lonesome one?
	Lucas, this came in a little bit ago.
	Do you appreciate it?
	I feel like he's talking to me.
	Yep.
	No.
	You got a response?
	I wouldn't say, I don't think I'm lonesome.
	I love my life.
	I'm pretty happy with what I got going on.
	I hope you love your life too.
	But I'm not the one watching this stream spewing hatred at the guests.
	What did he say that was hateful?
	That whole sentence that he said.
	Was that Lucas again?
	Yeah.
	It was from earlier.
	Yeah.
	He said something about us just not making sense and just talking and saying whatever and how we're 304s.
	So yeah, he did say a lot of the little jabs.
	Eric, I love you, brother.
	But you're using the Morgan Freeman hypothetical example.
	Who would a cab driver pick up driving up Fifth Avenue?
	A black guy on one side or a white guy on the other side?
	It's not a, it's not a, see this, this, this, this the problem.
	And I'm going to just keep it 100.
	Oh, super thousand.
	I don't have a lot of people.
	All right, go ahead.
	I can't answer it.
	No problem.
	Go ahead.
	30 to 20.
	20 seconds, but you got to keep things serious.
	We got to keep things short.
	We got to keep things short.
	We can't go on three-minute monologues.
	But go ahead.
	No, it ain't that serious, bro.
	These girls are fucking leaning on me about the fucking time.
	So go ahead.
	Can someone tell chair one to wake the yeah, she already rage quit.
	She left.
	She went to sleep.
	She had to go do more Mirana, I think.
	Yeah, I mean, she came in high to the studio, totally disrespectful, super disrespectful to come on the show where you're expected to be able to have conversations and come in fucking baked out of your mind.
	Super disrespectful.
	I mean, I feel like we hold conversations baked or that's how we generally go.
	I mean, you guys have required me to repeat myself multiple times.
	You don't even know what I'm saying.
	You do that regularly.
	I'm not even.
	We watched a previous episode on the way over here.
	Do what?
	you repeat yourself and repeat the question multiple times if asked or if needed and if stated yeah but if like that's due to like a misunderstanding but if you're under the influence of drugs you're drinking champagne You were.
	I drink.
	Are you, bro?
	What?
	I literally had like three sips of champagne.
	I literally had three puffs of a joint on the wall.
	And I've been listening to everything you guys say.
	I don't require you guys to repeat yourselves multiple times.
	I listen.
	I pay attention.
	You guys don't.
	I think I've been doing a pretty good attention.
	Racism noun, the belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.
	The belief that one race is superior to all others.
	Three, prejudice or discrimination based on race.
	All right.
	Thank you, Desert Joe.
	Did we, this one from Lucas, did we read this one?
	His hypothetical is incomplete.
	Ask yourself this follow-up: who the cab driver picks up if the black guy was dressed in a three-piece Brooks bro suit and the white guy was dressed as a hell's angel someone dressed more better than the other.
	I don't want to slow down the show.
	You want me to respond?
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Oh, I mean, there's some truth to that.
	We're not going to make it abroad 100%, but let's just be real.
	In most cases, you know what I'm saying?
	They would have to be dressed like that in order to make that distinction.
	But if they was both wearing a suit, I mean, I don't assume people are racist.
	I just know that this country is what it is, and everybody's not as developed and advanced as we are.
	Some people still stuck in that mindset, black or white.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Crazy statement.
	Let's see.
	Gender pay gap.
	Are women oppressed in the USA?
	Well, Doz is gone.
	We have, let's see.
	Are women oppressed in the USA?
	Peyton, you say yes.
	Ninzi, you say yes, or you yes.
	And then Lily, you think women are oppressed in the USA?
	How?
	Is that the question?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	I think we kind of doubled back and talked about that previously.
	Well, we're talking about rights, but oppression is a little bit different.
	So how are women oppressed?
	So for me, it goes hand in hand with right, that mental, that mind state.
	And again, with like being taught certain things and being taught, like, oh, this is okay or this standard and this level of learning, education, knowledge, or you're supposed to do these things and only these things.
	What in your lifetime have shown the product of oppressive women?
	Not some shit from Margaret Sanger.
	Today, in your lifetime, how are women being oppressed in America right now?
	My rights against my body.
	I knew it.
	So besides abortion.
	So why are you going to give me decisions that I answer your question?
	I feel like abortion is oppression.
	You guys live in California, so what?
	What?
	But what about the people who are not going to be able to do that?
	But that I don't live in California.
	The lawyers are not going to be able to do it.
	Let's do this.
	Okay.
	Women are oppressed.
	You're women.
	How are you oppressed?
	Am I oppressed?
	Yeah.
	Do you think you're oppressed?
	Yeah.
	I've definitely felt from time to time in different stages of my life, like in work and stuff.
	I've worked in different aspects of life and I've felt people belittle me.
	I felt men put me below.
	Yeah, but individual men belittling is not oppression.
	You think men, you know how much we get belittled by other men?
	Our whole lives.
	It's like you don't think it's worse for you as a black man?
	I do think we get oppressed, but I'm not sitting here talking about I live under oppression.
	Y'all are.
	So I'm trying to figure out how do you acquire.
	I didn't say I live under oppression always.
	The question asked, do I get opportunities?
	Oppression to me is constant.
	Like a slave was living under oppression where you were made to do something.
	No one's making you get pregnant by a man that you deem undesirable.
	So that's not oppression.
	That's self-oppression.
	And now if you're being, as far as keeping a baby, you didn't make it alone.
	So that's the crazy thing about the baby thing.
	You're carrying it in your body, but it's not made just by you.
	And when it comes out, it's not just responsible for you.
	So that's it.
	Saying, but it's not a in even what you bring up in this abortion thing, that's still something that's a part of the man as well.
	So, it's not just a you thing.
	What strictly about women is oppressive today?
	Because abortion to me don't count because that's I'm the man, the father is also responsible for that child.
	So, what individually outside of abortion, which is two parents, is oppressive to women today?
	I feel like you kind of really just disregarded the whole thing on it wasn't even about the two parents, it's about my body and what you're saying.
	Exactly, that's a but it's not, but it's about your child ain't just you, but that child is not just yours, sexual assault against me, right?
	And the thing, the other percentage of the victim of a crime, that's you're not oppressed, exactly.
	We're talking about outside of men can be victims of crimes too.
	You're not oppressed.
	We're talking about something that's strictly exclusive to women, like how circumcision is exclusively exclusive to us that does that has nothing to do with another person because a baby is a product of two people and two genders.
	I'm talking about something strictly for you that's oppressive today that you can't prevent because you can prevent getting pregnant.
	A slave ain't had no choice, he had to be a slave.
	You don't have to get pregnant.
	So, what positions that doesn't require you to do anything that makes you oppressive today?
	Um, does it count if I say like um like the gender pay gap disparities in America?
	There is no gender pay gap, there is it so I mean, let's just give you that.
	Is it such a stretch that it's oppressive?
	Like, are we talking about are y'all make y'all?
	I think we like a few cents ahead of y'all.
	It's like it's not even clear.
	We bring up issues.
	Well, no, but I'm just saying, just good enough to be justifiable to you.
	Because you're talking about 50, 60 cents.
	Like, I don't want to answer that.
	Come on, but then, so you're trying to say my answer, our answers to that are like everything is disregarded.
	Like, yo, how about this?
	Okay, fine.
	How about this?
	Why don't we go ahead and grant that the gender pay gap is conceivably oppression towards women?
	You would then have to acknowledge all the other gaps that exist.
	For example, men die five years earlier.
	Uh, would you guys how is that relevant though to it's literally a gap?
	You're saying that makes them oppressed.
	No, no, no.
	I'm um, it's not really relevant to the gender pay gap, I suppose, but it's a gap.
	So, just I'm trying to follow the logic here.
	So, if a gap exists between men and women, if the gap is negative when it comes to men's experience, then that's evidence of like male oppression.
	Sure, okay, so for example, bringing it somewhat related to uh somewhat related to the wage gap because this has to do with work.
	Uh, men are much more likely to die on the job.
	There's a men are more likely to die on the job gap.
	Is that oppression?
	If that's how you want to see it, yeah.
	And then tying it into the wage gap, if men are much more likely to die on the job, would this indicate that men are much more likely to work dangerous jobs?
	Like, for you guys to be willing to work a job where you could die doing it, wouldn't you want to be compensated more?
	And wouldn't these jobs tend to compensate more?
	But what about like the actors and the surgeons and the actors?
	You mean the OnlyFans girls who make way more?
	I said actors, not models or sex workers.
	I said actors, like actresses.
	Like, I've seen like pay gap disparities in actresses, like between men and women.
	What about the NBA?
	Oh, yeah, that's another one.
	Yeah, do you think men will be a person?
	Yeah, don't break them.
	That's our argument.
	You're gonna win that one.
	I'm talking about you.
	You ain't gonna win that one.
	That's another one.
	But that's, but, but, but.
	Do you think the arguments we're doing?
	Do you think the women who play in the WNBA should be paid the same as the NBA players?
	I think they should be paid more, but I do understand since it's not viewed as much as the NBA.
	They don't make enough.
	They're not.
	Yeah.
	Wait, also, here we go.
	They don't.
	So, when it comes to the gender pay gap or whatever, there's the uncontrolled and then the controlled pay gap.
	Uncontrolled is basically you're comparing all women who work to all men who work, and you're just doing a straight comparison without factoring in hours work, hours worked, type of job, seniority, any sort of like the company.
	You're not factoring in any of that.
	When you control for everything, it shrinks to one cent.
	Men make one cent more than women.
	And then, this can easily perhaps be explained away.
	You want a guy to pay for the first aid?
	Yeah.
	You want a guy to pay for the first aid?
	You want a guy to pay for the first aid?
	Yeah.
	Women, by exerting a social pressure, a mating pressure on men that doesn't exist on you, by your own actions, men are thus more motivated to succeed.
	They're more motivated to earn money than you guys are because you guys know you're not being assessed.
	You're not going to be precluded from getting sexual or romantic interest from men because of your money.
	But plenty of women are going to completely zero men out if they can't pay for the date or provide in some capacity.
	Women, women are putting a mating pressure on men that doesn't exist in you.
	And this solely disregarding the hours worked and the type of job, just women's own mating pressure that you guys on the individual and group level apply on men completely would explain the wage gap because you expect men to go out there and earn money so we can take you guys out on dates.
	I don't think it completely explains it, but I feel like maybe not.
	To some degree, like I hear what you're saying, but I wouldn't say it completely explains.
	Well, how about this?
	So, um, do you think men are highly motivated when it comes to like getting romantic or sexual relationships?
	Yes, yeah, highly motivated.
	In fact, they're so motivated, they'll even pay money to get sexual access, right?
	Are you guys willing to pay money to get sexual access from men?
	No, who's the primary consumers?
	Not us, but like older women.
	Who's the primary consumer of OnlyFans?
	Men, right?
	So, okay, men are highly motivated.
	Uh, perhaps you could even say highly desperate to get sexual access to the point that they pay for it.
	None of you guys would even consider spending money.
	You would fucking be like, What?
	You want me to pay you to no, never happens.
	Men are willing to pay money to get sexual access.
	You guys get that for free.
	Very.
	You can't just blame that on the women.
	That's like the new day and age and what has been taught over time.
	It's not just a woman thing.
	Women don't teach you and put these things in your head and miss.
	That's instinctive.
	No one's taught to spend money for the way we're doing.
	But no, I'm talking about over time.
	I feel like prostitution is like one of the oldest jobs in the world.
	Who do you think teaches all the kids in schools?
	Men and women.
	Okay.
	No, it's mostly women.
	It's overwhelmingly the teachers in school or whatever.
	But teachers in school.
	But then your parental figure.
	Your parental figure, the males.
	You mean the parental females?
	Typically, so we're going back to the general figure.
	The parental figure is a lot of people.
	I grew up with this in all that.
	I'm talking about eight hours to learn from women.
	Eight hours a day plus to learn from women.
	What do you talk?
	Like, it's not even close.
	The amount of parenting time versus school time, not even the same universe.
	So yeah, it is women who are teaching men.
	It is women who are teaching young women.
	Yes, they're overwhelmingly the teachers.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	They are.
	Like, that's a fact, right?
	So when you say, oh, it's not women.
	Women aren't teaching our young men this.
	It's like, yeah, they fucking are teaching our young men.
	Who else is teaching them?
	They're the teachers.
	And I worked in a school, and they're not that embracing of men in the school system like people think.
	Because I hear a lot of people say, there needs to be more men in the schools.
	They don't really want us there.
	I worked in the schools for eight years.
	They don't want objective men in these schools.
	They want women who's going to take instruction and stick to the curriculum.
	But yeah, I mean, if you guys expect men to pay for first aids, men are going to be more motivated to make more money than you guys.
	Comes down to motivation.
	And think about it.
	If the average man is being asked to make $300,000 to a million dollars, we got to make more money.
	So you can't say, oh, we don't make enough money, but then you say, I want them to make more money.
	It's like, come on, it's like y'all just want to be right.
	I just thought about how he brought up a fact that black women are graduating the most from colleges and stuff like that.
	Think about those black women that graduate from colleges and then go and try to get these jobs.
	And then they're getting paid less.
	I also feel like it's like intersectionality that comes in.
	You got to go right to the mic.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	I feel like there's also some intersectionality that comes into it because, yes, black women are going to school and graduating at a higher rate than other races and genders.
	But when it comes to pay gaps and pay disparities, black women are being paid the least amount of money.
	But unfortunately, black women always telling black men that they make more than them.
	So you is like on one hand.
	Well, there are statistics to prove that too, also.
	But you see how you wave the finger at us, but you'd say I'm a victim to other people.
	But, you know, don't shit on us about the money then.
	All right.
	Still not sure about the whole female oppression thing, but congratulations to you, though.
	Asian women are out earning white men.
	So good job, I guess.
	Thanks.
	You're welcome.
	Okay.
	And then maybe we'll just try to wrap early today.
	We'll do a couple more topics and then just try to wrap early.
	Dang, how long do you guys usually have these panels?
	I mean, five hours.
	I broke the record.
	Damn.
	Trying to go breaking dough records.
	I'm trying to think if they're.
	There's a couple chats that need to come through.
	Here, I'm going to let this.
	Oops.
	One sec, guys.
	We have a chat here from Joe Murphy.
	Joe Murphy donated $100.
	The race car topic is debunked globally with Thomas Sowell.
	This existed around the world.
	Fun fact: the International Communist Party targeted black American men to join two Marxism 1930s.
	Neo-Marxism.
	They always bring up Thomas Sowell, bro.
	Like, that's the go-to.
	Did this come up?
	Yo, ABCH, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Any other topics from the panel that you guys want to talk on before we do the Rose session?
	Rose.
	I didn't know that was a thing.
	No.
	See, if you'd watched any of the episodes before this one, I did.
	And how did you not know that was a thing?
	I don't think I watched it all the way through to that, Mary.
	We were supposed to watch the whole seven-hour stream.
	I watched some that were like three hours, some that were like.
	Yeah, it's really funny.
	I don't actually understand it.
	It's like I go on a lot of shows.
	I mean, a lot of shows.
	And I do a ton of debates with like, I mean, kind of high-level, brutal debaters.
	And I'll do research on it on a show or on an opposition debater for 30, 40 hours.
	I won't even think twice about it.
	I mean, you're going to go on a show and you're not even going to be bothered to watch like one content every day.
	I definitely did.
	I watched at least two or three of them.
	I didn't watch a full episode, but I definitely like I started watching.
	This is a different generation, Andrew.
	You know, the detention span ain't like it used to be.
	And I was like, I mean, you can see on the app at these get hundreds of thousands of views.
	You'd want to have a good showing or present yourself kind of with your best foot forward, this type of thing, I would think.
	And it's like, you can't be bothered to watch one episode of the show you're going to go on, really?
	I could be wrong, but I think a lot of girls come on here because of the visibility.
	I don't think they really.
	Y'all did pretty good, but a lot of women I don't think they come here with their plans on contributing.
	They just want to be cute and look good, you know, and just, you know, get that visibility more than engage in the conversation.
	So I think some women just want to get views and they subscribe account.
	I had some info on my phone, but y'all took my phone, so it's okay.
	I'm just trying to argue what I remember.
	I mean, they take my phone in studio, too.
	The only advantage that I have here, and I will admit it's an advantage, is that I can look up statistics where you guys can't, but I do try to do that in a neutral way where I just give them to you.
	And then from there, you can kind of argue it out rather than trying to use them for the crux of an argument.
	Because I agree that that's fundamentally somewhat unfair, right?
	But we'll look up statistics that you got, too.
	It's fair to do it.
	Let's see, age gap.
	Is it wrong for a 30-year-old to date a 19-year-old paid and you said yes?
	Let's see.
	The winter, you were against the age gap stuff.
	Ninzi, against the age gap stuff, Lily, against the age gap stuff.
	Okay.
	What's the biggest age gap you guys have had?
	Probably 10 years, but not when I was under 21, though.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	About eight.
	Seven, eight years.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I think it's like 10, 10, 12 years.
	Okay.
	Let's, yeah.
	What about you?
	Maybe three years.
	I don't even think that angle is worth it, to be honest, since she's gone.
	How many?
	What?
	Three.
	So what's the oldest guy that you would date currently?
	So you're 24, or sorry, you're 26.
	Oldest guy you would date?
	Yeah, I would say like 35, 36.
	I wouldn't go much above 40.
	Okay, 35?
	How old are you?
	I'm 35.
	You want to go over 40?
	You might want to change your mind.
	Maybe I'm just traumatized.
	You know, I never really thought about it.
	I don't think I would put an age thing to it.
	I'm where I'm like getting to know people because then it's the same thing.
	What's the lowest I would do?
	I mean, obviously, like 21, 18, but.
	So you would date a 45, 50-year-old?
	Um, I don't know.
	Are they, you know, gray fox?
	They take care of themselves.
	They have a good shit.
	We're assuming they're decent looking.
	I ain't just talking about it.
	White shirt looks like if you played an orc and set a prayer to random.
	What?
	What the fuck?
	I gotta pause it again.
	I don't know what happened there.
	High body county.
	Women are like you never.
	That voice is crazy.
	Oh, boy.
	I don't know.
	I think I accidentally unpaused it, and now it's going to read every single one that came through.
	I don't know.
	Let's see.
	I hope not, but we'll see.
	I think it's okay.
	That's Ghostface the rapper?
	I'm not sure, actually.
	Maybe.
	That'll be funny.
	I don't know.
	He's a funny voice.
	Oldest guy you would date?
	I forgot where we left off.
	Yeah.
	Maybe 32.
	32?
	Or 30.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is it wrong for a high body count man to prefer to date a low body count?
	Actually, how about this?
	Since not to move off of it too quick, what is actually wrong with the age gap relationships?
	All of you said it was wrong or whatever?
	I don't think it's wrong with the age gap specifically, but I feel like if you're under 21, I feel like it's just a little like weird for somebody who's super old, like 30, to be wanting to date someone under 21.
	Like you can't even, what do y'all have in common?
	What are y'all going to then do for a date?
	They can't even go with you and buy a drink at the bar.
	It's just kind of like inappropriate because I don't know.
	I feel like, okay, if you 21 and you dating somebody like a little over 30 is different.
	But I feel like at like 18, 19, especially as a young girl, you're naive.
	You don't know everything you need to know about the world.
	And I feel like you're very susceptible to being.
	What happened to you again?
	It's called groomed.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're very susceptible to being groomed by a man that's 30 plus and already has his life figured out and been through 100 women and back.
	Yeah.
	So let me ask you something.
	The older I get, the more I realize something important when women say this thing on the age gap.
	They say, well, you don't have anything in common.
	I realize I don't have anything in fucking common with women at all anyway.
	I don't have anything in common with them.
	I don't like the same music that they like.
	I don't like, I don't do my nails.
	I don't care about glitter.
	I don't give a shit about makeup.
	I don't care about anthropomorphizing animals on TV.
	I don't like literally zero women's interests do I have.
	And then I realized I actually am not interested in almost anything my wife is interested in.
	And then when I look back on women that I've dated, I'm not interested in anything they're interested in either.
	And then when you ask people, you realize, actually, in male-female dynamics, they're not really that interested in the thing that the other person's interested in.
	So women aren't very interested in guns.
	They're not very interested in...
	Hang on, hang on.
	So women aren't very interested in guns.
	They're not very interested in my truck.
	They're not very interested in mechanics.
	They're not really interested in philosophy.
	They're not really interested.
	They're basically not interested in anything that they're interested in.
	So what is all this commonality?
	Like, what is it exactly?
	What are the things that you have in common?
	Yeah, like mutual goals, like what you want to do in life, where you see yourself, how you see a family.
	And I feel like men and women can have things in common.
	I don't know.
	Maybe not you, but me personally, like when I'm dating people, I feel like we usually find the same things funny.
	What do you have in common?
	We'll find the same things funny.
	We'll like the same TV shows.
	We'll like the same music.
	We'll like to go do the same things for fun.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You'll like some of the same TV shows.
	But they'll often like a lot of media that you probably don't care about for you.
	Yeah, like football and sports.
	Men really, really love.
	They just love to like get on a video game in Red Dead Redemption 2.
	I love that.
	Grab a stick of dynamite and blow and literally blow a person to pieces just to watch it happen because it's just kind of fun.
	And then maybe they'll lasso somebody and drag them behind their horse, right?
	Just because it's funny, right?
	Women don't give a shit about it.
	I don't care.
	Oh, come on.
	I'm a gamer.
	What's the main famous name of Red Dead Redemption?
	What is it?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I'm just saying I like games.
	Like, I don't know that game that you're talking about, but specifically, like, I have definitely gotten along with a guy because we like the same games.
	She likes Brantefoto.
	What I'm saying to you, though, is that your cross interests, right, are no better than the cross-interests that you'd have with kind of any random stranger.
	I mean, look at men.
	Men with men actually have way more in common with other men than they usually do with their own woman.
	Way more in common.
	And the thing is interesting about it is it's like, are you going to be dirty with a 19-year-old male friend?
	Hang on, hang on.
	When you're talking about commonalities, that's fine.
	Maybe there's a tiny bit of commonality, but ultimately, they don't really have very much in common.
	Are you going to be, if you were 30, would you be friends with a 19-year-old boy?
	Yeah, probably, sure.
	Close friends?
	I don't know about close.
	I mean, close would require an elongated relationship with them.
	But like, for instance, what if I had a son-in-law who was 19?
	That's different.
	Would I not be friendly with him or friends with him?
	Yeah, sure.
	When I was 19, I feel like I was pretty friendly with my father.
	You know what I mean?
	Various things like this.
	Definitely when I was 18, 19, 20 years old, I had 30-year-olds who would take me out hunting, and I had a close companionship with them for sure.
	Did you ever date a 30-year-old lady?
	When, when?
	When you were 19, 18, 19?
	No, I didn't, but so what?
	That has nothing to do with anything.
	But they're not.
	My personal preferences, my personal preferences have nothing to do with anything.
	I wouldn't date an 18-year-old now at 40.
	I wouldn't date a 25-year-old girl at 40.
	I wouldn't even probably date a 40-year-old at 40.
	But the point is, the point is, it's like, ultimately, the idea that you have to have things in common is kind of silly.
	In fact, it seems like people who have some of the best relationships don't have anything in common.
	They don't have really any shared interests at all.
	They just love the hell out of each other.
	They love each other's personality.
	They love, you know, they, I don't know.
	They don't seem to love each other based on their movie interests or that they find the same things funny.
	For instance, one of the strongest relationships I've ever seen was one of the guys, the guy in the relationship, loved to watch crass humor, and his wife hated it.
	She was always like, oh, I can't believe you're watching that again.
	And she would go into a different room.
	They still loved each other, right?
	They had no real shared interests here.
	So I'm not sure that shared interests is a big one.
	I'm not really sure.
	I don't think it's the biggest.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Final few topics here.
	Then we'll do the row session.
	Then we're going to wrap.
	Lily, you said that you disagree that dating is easier for women.
	You disagree that men put in more effort than women when it comes to dating.
	So do you think women put in more effort than men when it comes to dating?
	In general?
	Or?
	Sure, yeah.
	In general.
	I feel like they put effort in different ways.
	Okay.
	What ways do women put in effort besides showing up their existence?
	That's what I just said.
	She literally read that with us.
	Lily, Lily.
	I was just going to say, like, how we were talking about surgery and stuff earlier.
	Like, women, we spend so much money and we put so much time and energy and effort into our appearance to get a certain type of man.
	So I feel like that takes a lot of energy and money on our end because we have to look a certain way to get a certain type of man or just to get men.
	Well, I guess it depends on the man.
	You don't have to do none of that shit.
	You just have to be attractive, sweet, and not just letting yourself go.
	We do not care if you have a fat.
	And then think about the letting yourself go.
	Think about yourself.
	Exactly.
	Think about women.
	That's more plastic.
	That's just to be a human.
	Think about ugly women.
	But that's what they have to do.
	But being grooming is a human civilization requirement.
	It's not exclusive to women.
	We can't just come outside funky and musty.
	Like, I got to put in effort.
	Got to get a haircut.
	Got to wear some decent clothes.
	Have a vehicle to pick you up.
	That's just human.
	Guys get ready in five minutes.
	Literally, it's a girl, two, three hours makeup.
	You don't have to care about it.
	Five minutes.
	What the hell is he doing?
	That takes four extra minutes.
	We don't need, but that's something that y'all want to look good for yourselves.
	I don't like makeup like that.
	I don't think it makes some women who have, I feel like you have bad skin, got big blemishes.
	Okay, I understand why you pick makeup.
	But a lot of women, the lashes and the, it's really not a requirement of men.
	And they'll tell you, well, I'm not doing it for you.
	I'm doing it for me.
	Well, say that.
	Because y'all are not doing that shit for us.
	That's something you want to do.
	That is, it isn't actually to your credit.
	That is an interesting argument, like that the women they get the plastic surgery.
	They're going under the knife.
	They're literally willing to die for beauty.
	But just to be clear, are you conceding that women wear makeup and do all that shit and get plastic surgery for men?
	I won't say all women, but I do think like some women for sure are doing that to attract a certain type of man.
	Like how we're talking about high-value men and how you guys are saying, like, that's what all women want.
	There's a large group of women that's going and putting themselves through all of that to attract those types of men.
	I think true high-value men don't want you to wear all that shit, though.
	I think certain men that are like young cats with money, like maybe a young rapper, maybe a young athlete, they might want that shit.
	But a man that's, let's say, a man that's like 38, he's in corporate America, he makes about 300,000.
	I don't think he really cares how long your lashes and how long your tips or your nails are.
	I think he just wants you to be classy and modest.
	And I feel like to some extent, I would agree with that.
	But I feel like, especially looking on social media platforms and seeing like certain people in their relationships or the girls that spoiled or the girls that have all the money.
	Who end up divorcing them dudes?
	Let's look at the long marriage.
	Yeah, and they be divorced in two years.
	Look at relationships that have been standing for 20 and 30 years.
	Them women be looking hella regular.
	Look at Denzel Washington's wife.
	Just regular, modest woman.
	Like these long, fulfilled relationships, the women are not these Instagram hotties.
	They're regular, modest-looking women.
	See, y'all looking at these momentary relationships because the guy got bred.
	So he's like, to get a dude with, see, it's a difference between a high-value man and a high-earning man.
	A high-value man could make $50,000.
	Because to me, a high-value man is a man that has high values.
	He values things that are valuable, like family, time spent with loved ones, educating himself, self-education, being physically fit, eating right.
	These are not things that equate to millions of dollars.
	So when women are trying to attract high-value men, they need to stop saying that.
	You're trying to attract high-earning men.
	And then you realize that they don't have value.
	So you end up not with them in the first place.
	So let's, I think, we need to change that narrative.
	Not blame men for that because high-value and high-earning is not necessarily synonymous.
	So just by existing, is that what you said, Lily?
	Yes.
	So the women put in more effort than men because they exist?
	No.
	Oh, my God.
	I have like no thoughts right now.
	I have, I have to get off of the questionnaire.
	I did have a couple questions, though.
	So, hold on, guys, one sec.
	Where is it?
	Sorry, guys.
	Where did it go?
	One sec, guys.
	Oh, what was it?
	Oh, going around the table.
	How many times have you been rejected?
	Maybe like two or three times.
	Too many to count.
	A couple, like a handful.
	Probably a handful, too.
	Less than five.
	Oh, no, I didn't.
	Less than 10.
	Yeah.
	How many times?
	How many times have you rejected a guy?
	She's not me.
	I can't count.
	I don't believe it.
	More than I can count.
	Unfortunately, I think it's because they're so persistent, too.
	Sometimes I got to be like, bro, get the fuck out of my face.
	So you kind of rejected them.
	I'll be, yeah, I'll be like, you know, every now and then I'll be like, considering, you know, a conversation where you're like separating from, but sometimes people don't get the soft hand.
	I'm not interested.
	So you got to be force-handed and be like, I don't like you.
	You need to back out of my space.
	You're talking about like in talking to him in person or like on the phone.
	Yeah, or any in any which way, right?
	You can be communicating with somebody, but it would be more in person because on phone, if I'm talking to you, like you got my number.
	You just hit the block button and just get ready for it.
	But then, too, if you're talking to somebody, like, I watched this girl, she had a gym video and she posted up, and this dude just invaded her space and was like, I want to work out with you.
	Let me work out with you.
	She was like, no, blatantly says no, and then continues to like invade her space and persist and do it.
	And they're not getting the same thing.
	Yeah, that's extra.
	That's weird.
	A lot of those videos are fake, by the way.
	They're so cool.
	I've experienced it in real life, though, so I understand the piece to it.
	All right, we have a chat here from Matthew Harder.
	Sup, Brian, Andrew, the panel may offer my view.
	I'm a white/slash Asian.
	I grew up with many, many black family.
	Oh boy, I should have read this before.
	Or anyone leaning a bit right of center's uncle?
	They never left the plane.
	Just trade the iron chains for gold.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Matthew Harder.
	Just got to be careful with some of the words I read just because of YouTube censorship, but I do appreciate your super chat, man.
	Thank you.
	TTS, by the way, it's on hold, but it is set to $20.
	We're going to do a roast session.
	They're going to wrap the show at streamlabs.com slash whatever.
	Champagne.
	Champagne.
	Excuse me.
	Stroking out there.
	Champagne pops are 50% off.
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	$499 champagne pops.
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	Let's see.
	Uno memento por favour.
	Okay, so they're going to roll.
	Did it fall off?
	Yeah.
	Me too.
	So clearly they know you.
	I only been here three times.
	They don't know me.
	I mean, they just say he's a black guy.
	Who's chair?
	Who's chair three?
	I think you.
	I think they're talking about her in the yellow.
	No, I think it's because I was thinking one.
	He's talking about something about defense.
	Who's one of y'all two?
	There's one of y'all in the corner.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I'm trying something here with the TTS.
	Let me see if this is going to work.
	Okay.
	Elboy.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	We'll see.
	Grab them by the puppy.
	Your body, my choice.
	Bro.
	Dude, oh my gosh.
	Brian, shake that dumpy.
	Okay, I'm.
	Tamu Alicia Keys.
	We have Alicia Keys at home.
	What?
	Oh, I don't know who Alicia Keys is.
	What?
	That chick is so high-hatch you.
	We'll be just spelling Bush hashtag the entire show.
	Diehack is Bricks and Democrat now.
	But my President Trump, TTS working back.
	Write F hash C King now.
	What the?
	Also, get grace to the show.
	He's high, son.
	I don't know.
	What the hell?
	Drunk Texan.
	Okay, I don't know.
	It's just like Jeremy Meeks.
	Women are terrible.
	Hey!
	They would fall for murders.
	Bro, what the f- Okay, I'm pausing that shit.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I thought I've been trying to fix it all night.
	It's just not working.
	All right, we're going back to normal.
	Let's see.
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	Yo, thank you, man.
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	Great guest.
	Please bring him on more.
	White man here.
	Disagree with some of his racial remarks, but in another forum it would be good to discuss race issues with him.
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	I already said this before, but the thing I find funny is that women will throw around buzzwords, but not know the true meaning behind them.
	That's why essay allegations are so serious for men.
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	Have you ladies ever considered that maybe you are not oppressed?
	It's that you are selfish, shallow, don't work very hard, you are stupid, and you don't do anything important with your lives.
	No, you guys want to respond to that?
	I've never seen that.
	You guys can shoot back if you want.
	You can fire back.
	It's fine.
	Misogynist.
	You are such a misogynist.
	You gotta have more than a man.
	I think I'm gonna give him more than that.
	Oh, that's Rachel.
	Do we have a little Rachel?
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	No, she's making me dinner.
	It's almost three o'clock here.
	Nice.
	What part of LAV?
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	Andrew did wonderfully on Piers.
	I'll never forget years ago when Piers said if he could, he would confiscate guns from Americans.
	Redcoats, son of a love.
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	One day I'm sure I'll tangle up with Piers on that.
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	What's your max age gap?
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	Being on the podcast for all this time, Andrew probably feels more oppressed by the women on the panel than they have ever felt in their own lives.
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	Lucas went all the smoke.
	I have a question.
	What year was World War I?
	Oh, man.
	I cannot guess.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, just guess.
	Just guess.
	No judgment.
	Like the 1940s.
	Okay, what about World War II?
	Okay, maybe I lie.
	Maybe World War II was the 1940s, and World War I was like the 1920s.
	Okay, what about you?
	1916 to 1918, I think.
	World War II.
	World War II?
	Late 1930s, early 1940s.
	I can't even guess, just guess.
	Just guess.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I don't know what was on.
	World War I, years.
	Can't even bring it to.
	Can't even bring it to light for you.
	Give it me a decade.
	Give me a decade.
	20s, 30s, 40s, 50s.
	Um.
	Yeah, no.
	Sorry, I got not to free you.
	Okay, name three countries.
	Three countries?
	Yes.
	US, Canada, and Europe.
	Europe?
	That's a I love that country.
	That's my favorite, favorite place to vacate.
	Aren't you from that country, bro?
	Brain.
	Yeah, I am.
	I am from that country.
	The country of Europe.
	It's okay, we are.
	Yeah.
	That's what they're good at.
	World War One, World War II?
	I have no idea.
	Yes, just guess.
	20s, 30s.
	Huh?
	1920.
	For World War I?
	Okay.
	Two.
	World War II?
	1930.
	Sweet.
	Okay, good job.
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	Chair 2 is dumb AF Chair 5 has very low IQ for an Asia.
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	No comment.
	Have you taken the NIQ test?
	No.
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	Andrew's going with it.
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	We're going on break for anywhere from three to six weeks.
	I don't know exactly how long, but there's going to be a break for the holidays.
	It'll probably be on the shorter end, but it's going to be in that age range.
	Speaking of which, from the previous one, who's going to take their makeup off?
	You down?
	It's the end of the show.
	I didn't know that was state babe.
	I remember I was bringing it up.
	Will you do it?
	Will you do it?
	Morgan, can you keep it down?
	Come on.
	What is going on?
	Come on, paylessy.
	I gotta go home and stream after this.
	Oh, damn, you a gee.
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	Oh, my God.
	You gonna review this?
	No, I'm gonna get it.
	PSWA as well.
	Okay, here.
	No, P.
	Okay, who will take their makeup off?
	I'll take my makeup off.
	I gotta pay extra takeoff.
	Uh, no.
	But you get you get the respect of the chat if you do take it off.
	So they could just call me ugly?
	Like, that's all they're gonna do.
	Oh, my God.
	I got kicked in the ball.
	Y'all can at least take some of these things.
	Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	Guys, guys, guys.
	Hold on.
	We didn't do the round two Desmond.
	Okay.
	I saw his size.
	I saw his size.
	I don't even think I could fit an arm around him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Come into frame, Desmond.
	But also, it's like not fade.
	Like, this man does this for work.
	Like, he's training positioners.
	He's still.
	He's a puppy.
	He's a puppy dog.
	We'll size up though.
	All right, so here's what we're going to do.
	Wait.
	Damn, son.
	Look at.
	What the hell are you saying?
	Damn, you got taller all of a sudden?
	Damn.
	Watch the balls.
	Wait, so here we got to figure out.
	Chat, chat, chat, chat.
	What do we do?
	Like, what is the like?
	What about this?
	I want you to put both your hands on just Desmond's.
	Are you left-handed or right-handed?
	Left.
	You're left-handed?
	Okay, we're going to use your right hand.
	Which one do you jerk with?
	Oh, bro.
	I want the opposite of the strings.
	Okay, I'm just for the strength reasons.
	Okay, so my right arm is stronger.
	You're stronger in your right?
	But you're a lefty?
	Okay, so you're going to grab his left, his left arm.
	Okay.
	And you're going to try, you can use your other arm too.
	Okay.
	I'm alive.
	Your two arms versus his one arm.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then, Desmond.
	She's going to go my strong arm.
	Sure, fine, whatever.
	It's kind of blocked, though.
	Can you scoot back over here?
	Scoot over here.
	All right.
	Okay, he's going to remove me on the shit.
	Grab the left, get the left one.
	Get the left.
	Am I going to be like, so what do we chat?
	What do we do?
	Like, Desmond, your goal is to don't hurt her, but like, your goal is to get her to remove her double grip on your one arm.
	But don't hurt her.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't fucking know.
	Chat.
	Hold on.
	Let me read chat.
	Let me read chat.
	What do we do?
	Chat, chat, chat.
	Or Andrew, do you have any ideas?
	Like, what's a test that we can do?
	Yeah, so this one's actually really simple.
	Okay.
	All Desmond has to do is use one arm, right?
	And grab.
	All you have to do is grab her arm at the elbow, right?
	Are you flat?
	All you have to do is just escape the grip.
	That's it.
	Just escape the grip.
	Wait, so what?
	If he has you, it's just one arm at the elbow.
	Yeah, you probably could.
	That's really good.
	Wait, so Desmond, you're just going to grab her wrist and just hold it there.
	Is that it, Andrew?
	You got to break out of it.
	You grabbed my wrist.
	No, no, no, no.
	Yeah, and you got to break out of it.
	Yeah.
	Wait, Desmond has to.
	No, it's, I think it's better.
	No, no, no.
	That's what I have.
	Hold on.
	No, We're going to do it like this.
	Desmond, you just hold her wrist.
	She has to break out.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What drugs do you hold?
	Here, I need some.
	You choose you.
	Hello?
	Doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	Yeah.
	oh Wait, she's going to.
	Something unlocks and stops grabbing on it.
	Like if I can go.
	Wow, that was great.
	What else can we do?
	How about oh, wait, can you do you know how to do a double leg takedown?
	I okay, do a double leg takedown.
	I can't do a double leg takedown.
	Try to take him down to the ground.
	Desmond, you just stand there.
	Yeah, I want to pull her.
	I feel like I'm going to get in.
	Wait, no, don't fucking get up there.
	No, no, no.
	No, bro.
	Oh, my God.
	Chill out, bro.
	Just get standing, standing, you cannot punch or kick him.
	Take him down to the ground.
	Desmond, you just stand there.
	Was that okay?
	Bro, oh my god.
	Not it to the table, you fucking arsler.
	Holy fuck, she just bro.
	Oh, sorry, I didn't say that.
	Emily, Arsler.
	Actually, Arsler.
	GG's.
	This is fucking.
	Okay.
	Look at that size, though.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good.
	Thank you, Desmond, for that.
	W's in the chat for Desmond.
	W's in the chat for Dasmond.
	Desmond.
	W's in the chat for Desmond.
	Okay, where were we?
	I forgot where.
	We hit.
	Wait, shit.
	Oh, some of these fell off.
	Wait, damn.
	One sec, guys.
	I got to catch up on the iPad.
	Please explain.
	I think.
	Wait, Libertariat?
	I think this one.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	So sad Rachel is chained to the stove again, but still a great stream.
	Eric should come back to Bunny's things again.
	It bumped it a little bit.
	Yeah.
	Well, I kind of, I guess I invited him.
	Brian, here the end.
	I got to get out of here.
	Guys, thank you so much for having me on the panel, man.
	It was great to see you.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	I take zero of these conversations personally.
	I just enjoy having them.
	So you guys have a wonderful evening.
	Yo, thank you, Andrew.
	Thank you for that too.
	I do appreciate it.
	Thank you, man.
	Good night, Andrew.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	We have let's see.
	This one.
	Wait.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	I was so happy to see Andrew when uncensored.
	He absolutely demolished the woke leftist chick on the panel in true crucible form.
	I can tell we will say him many more times there.
	Congrats, bro.
	Thank you, man.
	You air note above criticism, donated $20.
	Just because you are a woman does not mean you are above criticism.
	Any remarks toward you is correction, not hate.
	In the 1950s, blacks did better than whites per capita until women married the guv.
	Roth donated $20.
	Thank you, Roth.
	Banana turtleneck, that color is bright for you.
	Darker colors, stay away from earth tones.
	Was that the first sleepwalk off for the show?
	Wait, are you guys going to do the makeup?
	You're going to take off your makeup?
	Makeup, makeup?
	She got a stream.
	She can't.
	Makeup.
	Will you take your makeup off?
	What are we giving you?
	I'll take my makeup.
	I'll give you that job and you a $2 bill on if you this is worth a lot.
	They are worth a lot.
	Okay, you gotta do the makeup first though.
	I wonder if somebody do it.
	I'm not gonna fucking stiff you for two dollars.
	Go ahead.
	I have one.
	Oh, she was gonna snipe that.
	$200, too.
	I'll take mine off.
	I mean, I only have two.
	No, I don't know where I'm at.
	$2.
	I have a bunch of $2 bills.
	I don't need $2 bills.
	You're gonna do it?
	You gotta take the fake lashes off, too.
	Darrell Soren puts it.
	They're quite expensive.
	They don't come off.
	Darrell Sorin put the lashes.
	The what?
	The lashes.
	Her lashes.
	Do you have sore and put it?
	Her eyelashes.
	The trash.
	You can put it in the trash.
	No, I'm gonna have like a plush.
	Oh, you're gonna put them back.
	Oh, yeah.
	You wanna take your makeup off?
	No, she's gotta stream.
	Okay.
	While they're doing that, I'll let the other ones come through.
	Mr. Amazing donated $21.
	Andrew, will you debate ChatGPT?
	It would win.
	Fortunately, he left before we could get to that.
	I do apologize, Mr. Amazing, but I'm sure he would debate.
	Laby Among the donated $20.
	Yellow shirt girl, I appreciate your confidence, but I don't think you could even break up a fight between Gary Coleman and Webster.
	Yo, W Crucible, thank you for the raid, Andrew.
	I do appreciate it.
	Welcome, everybody.
	What advice would you give men dating nowadays, since it seems some women have crazy expectations?
	I'm not sure if it was asked, but can we do the bear question if it wasn't?
	Oh, we didn't do the bear.
	Shit.
	What is that?
	Okay, going around the table.
	Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest?
	A man.
	I put a bear.
	Probably a man.
	You're the first one.
	We usually get the beer.
	Get a lot of bear.
	Y'all want to die?
	Yeah, those are the responses.
	I don't know if we have time to get into it, though, unfortunately.
	But yeah.
	Anyways, most of them Pik-Man, so.
	Selena underscore Gorn is donated $20.
	I didn't know I wouldn't have my phone translation, I didn't do my due diligence, so it's not my fault.
	Like I said, excuses.
	No shade!
	Also, if you're watching right now, click the like button.
	Do better.
	Yo, Selena Gournes, thank you.
	No shea, Selena.
	No Shay, but I have a podcast of my own, and we don't be doing that.
	So I didn't expect this going on more.
	You have a panel?
	You do a panel?
	No, we don't do a panel.
	I don't even.
	You know what?
	You're right.
	I'm making excuses.
	I should have done more homework.
	Okay, whatever.
	I mean, we don't take away your phone to deprive you from access to studies.
	We do it because you guys, like, you guys would be looking at your phones, not participating in the conversation.
	I understand.
	And trust me, we used to let people keep their phones.
	They'd be looking at it during.
	Oh, sorry, I was looking at my phone.
	Repeat the question.
	Repeat the question.
	They're not paying attention to the conversation.
	That's why we take the phones away.
	Not to deprive, not for like an unfair advantage.
	Because we even used to say, don't check your phones, but you guys can keep your phones.
	They still would just be on their phone.
	It would ruin the show.
	They'd be not paying attention to the show.
	They'd be sneaking it, looking down.
	It is what it is.
	We take it away for the benefit of the show, not for like to create an unfair advantage.
	I understand, and that's why I said I'm not.
	But y'all can't be trusted.
	You guys can't be trusted.
	Because even if we say don't take out your phones, you guys will still take out your phones.
	So it's like, whatever.
	Down by $2.
	Did you do it?
	Yeah.
	See, you can't even get it.
	You still got your lashes on, though.
	Well, where am I going to put them?
	You're going to put them in Morgan's hat.
	Morgan's.
	Am I going to take the hat with me?
	You can't put it on the table?
	The table's clean.
	But I'm going to lose them.
	Just put them on the table.
	Well, why don't you?
	Take them off.
	Well, I leave with them.
	I'm going to lose them.
	That sounds weird, huh?
	Well, I'll leave with them.
	I'm going to lose them.
	I'll make sure you leave with them.
	You can't take them off and just trust them.
	No, because they have to be applied.
	Yeah, no glue.
	Okay, are they disposable or how do those work?
	You could reuse them like up to like as long as you take care of them.
	You could reuse you.
	How much do they cost?
	How much do they cost?
	Just currently, it's a good thing.
	She looked the same.
	I literally looked the same.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	We have some more chats coming through.
	Joe Murphy donated $20.
	$666 for the panel.
	Would you prefer a man with a million-dollar house, $600,000 owed?
	$50,000 vehicle, $30,000 owed, or a man who lives in a tiny house with a $2,003 vehicle paid.
	Credit score doesn't matter.
	How much money does he make?
	Wait, what is he saying?
	Yeah, because the debt ratio to what you're bringing in regularly to compensate your lifestyle.
	We need more.
	By the way, we skipped over Easy G.
	I don't want you to feel like we screwed.
	Or do you guys want to answer this first question, I guess, from Joe Murphy?
	No, it's not here, guys.
	It's not there.
	Where's the question?
	The one that literally just came through about the money.
	Oh, the one that said out loud.
	I literally did not hear it.
	Bro, they're okay.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Joe.
	Yeah, it's late.
	Yeah, my brain fry.
	My god, dude.
	Okay.
	Ezeki donated $20.
	What advice would you give men dating nowadays, since it seems some women have critical?
	Yeah, it's easy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, dude.
	Just one, I mean, there's a couple things.
	You got to just level up as much as you can.
	Whatever, if you're short, get ripped, get money.
	Level up in as many different dimensions as you can.
	And then you got to maximize all the ways in which you're meeting women.
	So if this, like, dating apps are dog shit, but if you're willing to, like, play Russian roulette with your self-esteem, you can do the dating apps.
	You should be meeting in person, like, joining certain social groups.
	And then if all else fails, you can either get a hobby that's going to be way better than dating.
	So like go pick up surfing.
	That's like, I'd rather go surf like a chest high day at RingCon than like have sex with the hottest girl in the world.
	And then if that doesn't work, you could become a passport bro and then go to either Latin America, Eastern Europe, or like an Asian country.
	But there's also risks with that too.
	So that's my advice.
	What?
	Passport bro?
	Passport bros is crazy.
	Yeah, why not?
	I mean, if you're not being appreciated in the local area, just go to where you're appreciated, I guess.
	So, yeah.
	Let's see.
	There's good women everywhere, you know, but Virgin Slayer donated $19.99.
	Slavery in USA ended in 1865, 159 years ago.
	Black people create their own victim mentality by a creation of their own illogic reality.
	Blacks can't be racist against whites.
	Give me a break.
	Okay.
	Dariel underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	That little snack in yellow and red is the perfect height for giving BJ.
	She'd never complaining about her knees hurting her.
	Desmond, take that home for Netflix and chill.
	That's crazy.
	Okay.
	You're gonna love the internet.
	Yeah, but like on a scale of one to ten, how crazy are you, though?
	How crazy am I?
	Yes.
	When it comes to fighting or like no, just in general.
	How crazy am I?
	I'm pretty crazy.
	I don't know.
	Right, yeah.
	Seven and a half.
	That's pretty bad.
	Okay.
	Sons of Liberty donated $19.99.
	We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild.
	The Lollipop Guild, and in the name of the Lollipop Guild, we wish to welcome you to Munchkin Land.
	That's cute.
	Okay.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you, Sons of Liberty.
	What, Lolly?
	I don't know what that.
	It's a little joke from Willy Wonka.
	Oh, I see.
	Is it from William?
	Or is it Wizard of Oz?
	Yeah, Wizard of Oz.
	Daniel Nasiri, I can't pull it up, but he says, woke leftists.
	Yeah, you are a bunch of uneducated woke leftists.
	Thank you, Daniel.
	I do appreciate it.
	We just have to be careful of certain words.
	Okay, this one.
	Joe underscore McDonald donated $20.
	Women influenced by feminism are ruining America and Canada and are the reason why McTorrent Passport brothers are on the rise.
	What's MGTOW?
	Mingono.
	MGTOW, yeah.
	Thank you, John.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	Thank you, Libertarian.
	Dare to y'all wanna die is the most realistic man slash bear response I've ever heard.
	Low-key based.
	What do they mean when they say that?
	Libertariat.
	Thank you, man.
	It's good.
	I mean, it's like that's a good thing, I guess, if you're based in reality.
	Dariel Underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	How do you have a podcast?
	But you literally said you can't remember what occurred three hours before when it came to calling Brian a misogynist.
	I smoked him.
	She's a smiley face.
	That's a weed.
	Master Malvolo donated $20.
	Pinky, you look like a lot of fun.
	Wild and bratty, my favorite.
	Who is Pinky?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Thank you, Master Malvolo.
	Roth donated $20.
	We wish you a Merry Christmas.
	Don't spend your break playing wow 18 hours a day farming barons.
	All right.
	Thank you, Wrath.
	Selena Lunderscore Gorners donated $20.
	I'm impressed.
	Purple took accountability after my last comment.
	Other women should learn from that interaction.
	I thought it would make you shut up, Selena, but you're still talking.
	Oh.
	But you know what?
	Real.
	They won't come back now.
	Bam.
	It's on like donkey.
	It's on my dog.
	All right.
	Did you just gave them a free foot pick, by the way?
	Oh.
	Oh, shit.
	How'd your feet?
	She's in socks.
	Nobody.
	I thought it was cut.
	Let's see here.
	We have Daniel here.
	Yeah, this one's fun.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	Makes sense that you are all afraid of the censorship industrial complex and all these female Nazis that want handouts all day long.
	It's gotta be careful on YouTube, you know, YouTube, Twitch.
	They're some stuff going on with like adpocalypse on Twitch.
	They're kind of like Twitch is also like way a little more hardcore than YouTube when it comes to that stuff.
	Gotta be careful.
	Gotta be careful on those platforms.
	We have some super chats, which we'll have Morgan read.
	Ladies on the panel, listen to Morgan's answers tonight.
	She was spot on with all of her answers.
	The rest of you need help.
	Dragon's Talon.
	Thank you so much, man.
	I do appreciate it.
	Your super chat.
	W's in the chat for Dragon.
	Shout out from Tolusco, Alabama.
	I wanted to take this time to say, Andrew, you are awesome on Piers Morgan this morning.
	You are blowing up, and I couldn't be happier.
	Let's end this shit show going on in university and in America.
	Yo, Aaron, sorry that Andrew had to leave.
	It was getting late for him, but I do appreciate your very generous super chat.
	W's in the chat for Aaron Chambers with the big $50 super chat.
	Thank you so much, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	That was almost a workers' camp lawsuit.
	Shout out to our short queens, by the way.
	Tall Brothers.
	You did okay, Desmond?
	Yeah.
	Did she hurt?
	Did she hurt you?
	Real bad.
	Did you break a nail or anything?
	A couple nails.
	You broke his nail.
	I broke his nails.
	Shit.
	Thank you, casual germ.
	W's in the chat for germ.
	Really appreciate it.
	Wait, what?
	What is this?
	Master Malvoliant donated $20.
	Show me that finger again, Pinky.
	I will show you the heaven then take you straight to hell.
	What?
	What?
	They like a finger.
	That's all they like.
	He wants here.
	I'll flick him off into this into this camera.
	You can do a middle finger if you want.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, damn.
	This is to um fuck.
	What is his name?
	Selena.
	No, no, it wasn't to Selena.
	The one.
	Lucas.
	Lucas.
	Oh, shit.
	And Selena.
	We'll find out.
	Oh, damn.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay, there you go.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	Thank you, Daniel.
	Everyone is a victim these days.
	Even the most privileged, pathetic, crying sycophants.
	AW's in the chat for Daniel.
	Thank you so much for the TTS.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Very true.
	Very based.
	Very based.
	Very demure.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I feel like we should ask some degenerate questions now.
	It's actually dating related, you know?
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, it's not degenerate.
	It's just the body count topic.
	Do you guys think men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	No.
	No.
	Into the mic?
	No.
	No, not really.
	Lillian?
	Lily.
	I prefer Lillian.
	Okay.
	Awkward.
	Do you prefer Lily, though?
	Yeah, it's Lily.
	Why does he want to know, though?
	Why does he want to know?
	Come on, you know why you want to know.
	Why?
	No, but do you think men are insecure if they care about body count?
	I feel like they will be if they find out like a girl has a high body count.
	Okay.
	How will he become insecure by knowing that?
	Because like men react.
	They're like, oh, you're over here sleeping with all these guys.
	When they're insecurity, though, by saying, hey, that's cool, but I'm good on you.
	That means I'm insecure because I want to deal with a girl.
	If his body count is 300, yeah, it is insecure.
	We already established the difference.
	I don't care.
	300 is a lot.
	That's a good number.
	But we established the difference, though.
	No, I don't care.
	But 300 is like crazy.
	Come on.
	But you did agree, though, that he's not insecure if he wants to know, though.
	It's something.
	It's different, like wanting to know versus like, okay, now that you know, now I don't want to fuck with you no more.
	Wait.
	Going around the should.
	How about this?
	Should body count matter?
	Should it matter?
	I don't think body count should matter.
	Okay.
	I don't bring should it matter.
	No.
	Elizabeth?
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	Going around the table, what's your body count?
	I'm not sure of that.
	Three.
	How about three?
	Three?
	Really?
	Yep.
	Really?
	I'll believe him.
	You have to believe me.
	That getting kidnapped did me a favor.
	You know?
	But my body can't now.
	All right.
	Range.
	How about a range?
	More than 50?
	No, no, it's not over.
	Wait, did you ever do BG content when you did do OnlyFans?
	Did you shoot content with dudes?
	My boyfriend.
	Sounds like a boyfriend?
	What's BG content?
	Boy girl.
	Boy girl.
	Oh.
	Boy girl.
	Body count?
	I feel like if it doesn't matter, it doesn't need to be discussed.
	You said it, oh man.
	We didn't say it, oh man.
	It doesn't matter to me.
	I don't want to discuss it.
	Well, if it doesn't matter, what's the objective?
	Like, if it's a business, huh?
	Under 20?
	What?
	Under 20?
	Under 20?
	I'm not dating somebody under 20.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, but it'd be like, how many burritos have you eaten?
	Like, how many burritos have you eaten?
	She's sleeping.
	I would never be like, oh, that's personal.
	I'd just be like, I've had thousands of burritos.
	I don't mind.
	Come on, that's a little different.
	But that's still going to be a good thing.
	Under 20.
	Under 20.
	If my partner wants to discuss with me, we can discuss that together.
	But I feel like that's a private topic.
	Um, that shouldn't, it doesn't matter to the rest of the world unless I'm getting involved with you like that.
	Then it becomes like, okay, now it's a health concern.
	You know, are you still sexually active as you were before or have been in the past?
	Like, if my partner wants to talk about it, we'll talk about it.
	Like, if it's over 100, it's okay.
	No one's going to judge you.
	I'm not giving my information.
	He's very judging.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	I just call a spade.
	What's your body count?
	Hold on.
	Enough to make body count.
	No comment.
	Range.
	Zero.
	Wait.
	Nah, you don't.
	Morgan?
	One.
	Eric?
	Come on, man.
	I don't even know, bro.
	I just know it's.
	See?
	I mean, it's different for me, though.
	9,000.
	How's it different for you?
	Because it's a skill sex.
	You don't have to do nothing to get sex.
	Y'all don't have to do nothing.
	But no, that's still.
	Okay, outside of having to do all that stuff standard, right?
	And what we were talking about earlier with the virtual virtual show.
	I don't know, to be honest.
	I really don't know.
	I just know it's under 60.
	It's definitely under 60.
	Oh, that's not that high for your age.
	60.
	What the fuck?
	Pops?
	What's yours?
	And yours?
	You tell me yours.
	I have none.
	Huh?
	I have none.
	Well, we know you have one.
	Yeah, you said you.
	And apparently you finger blasted the chick on the fish tank show or whatever.
	No one got finger blasted.
	Oh, what did you do then?
	Nothing.
	Yo, who watched the fish tank?
	Okay, but no one got to.
	I'm looking it up when I go home.
	No one got finger blasted.
	Huh?
	No one got finger blasted.
	Oh, okay, but they got what?
	You kissed them, right?
	You made out with a dude.
	I did make out with a dude, but no one got finger blasted.
	Tongue hockey with a dude.
	Yeah, it's basically.
	Was it a part of the script, or y'all just felt the vibe and just said, let's try this?
	No, the dude.
	Apparently, the dude felt the vibe.
	She didn't feel the vibe.
	Even though that should be scripted and shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Apparently, the dude had a girlfriend.
	What?
	And apparently you didn't care.
	Oh, well, I didn't know.
	Dude, Lillian, you are low-key.
	Brian, Brian.
	I'm not toxic.
	I can tell she's so fucking funny.
	Just here.
	She's the most toxic.
	Those are the ones that'll get you the worst because they're real unassuming and pretty and just, you know, every smiley.
	You, you definitely.
	Lillian's on some like slashing tire shit.
	Peyton's toxic.
	I don't do that.
	Lillian's on toxic.
	I think you embrace your toxicity.
	Lillian's on some burn your clothes shit.
	That's the last thing all the time.
	I don't get those vibes.
	Lillian's on like fuck your dad shit.
	No.
	Lillian is to leave you with go-shoot on a vacation toxic.
	Lillian is like turn into like a giant outside Walcina and like eat your entire family in the hopes that she can like become like what's it called?
	A one of the like the founding Titan or something.
	So you're no longer you creep out when the guy falls asleep.
	You give me those vibes.
	Like he wakes up and he's like, you're gone type shit.
	Oh, like go home.
	Lillian, I feel like I could imagine Lillian, like if we were dating, she would just like, I would be passed out sleeping and then she'd be like, right here, looking at me, like what motherfucker?
	Like Lillian, can you, can you stare deeply into this camera right here?
	That's right here, right here?
	See where I'm pointing?
	Yeah, just stare open.
	Your like go, big big eye.
	No. Big eye.
	You're good. It's good.
	I'm proud of you Lily, all right um, Morgan, appreciate did, did.
	Oh no, this one, okay.
	Libertariat donated $20.
	Morgan, appreciate your aids and presence during cancels.
	Your RBF is on point, but please lay off the rouge for future shows.
	Damn roasted.
	What's that?
	The red?
	The rouge?
	Do you wear rouge?
	Do I wear it?
	I thought that was just her skin.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh.
	He's saying lay off the blush.
	Uh-oh.
	You got on blush right now?
	Yeah.
	He said your RBF is on board.
	I wouldn't even know what he said.
	You know what that.
	Yes, I know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good talk.
	Jimmy Anthony donated $20.
	Ladies, if Beyonce, Oprah, and Kim K walked into a room with 100 women, Beyonce would have the biggest flex because she has a family and children.
	No one gives a fuck about a woman's career or money.
	Wait, hold on.
	Desmond O'Brien, L for banning me from the chat after me, donating literally thousands of dollars to the show this year.
	Shame on you.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you would have to tell, you'd have to tell me your actual username you normally donate under.
	But bro, you're like talking, like, if you're roasting like Andrew or me, that's fine.
	But if you're posting like op shit, we're not going to let that come through.
	Like, it's okay if you're kind of you can make fun of us, you can call us names, but if you're posting opposition shit, I'm not letting that come through, whether it's for me, whether it's for Andrew.
	Sorry, man.
	Let's see.
	But, oh, Jimmy, but Beyonce.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the thing, the stuff going on with Jay-Z.
	I don't know.
	There's some that's kind of Oprah.
	People care about Oprah.
	She gives people free stuff.
	Otis Stritwood donated $20.
	America was founded by people looking for religious freedom, economic opportunities, and political liberty.
	Took America only 87 years to end slavery.
	World enslaved then and still does.
	God bless USA.
	Yep.
	Thank you, Otis.
	I appreciate the TTS.
	Thank you.
	Master Malvoliant donated $20.
	I know for a fact women project their own insecurity about their own body count because they don't want to be judged.
	First of all, no, I'm not insecure.
	I don't give a fuck.
	What's the body count?
	Lillian. Go ahead.
	What's the body count?
	Come on.
	No comment.
	If I say mine, will you say yours?
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	Oh, it's just a matter of time.
	Will you say yours if you say his?
	You say you.
	You say yours and she'll say hers.
	No, I want to know yours.
	Oh, no.
	Huh?
	She says she don't even know.
	She doesn't know.
	She lost count.
	Did you lose count?
	You said you didn't know right now.
	Did you lose trouble?
	I said I don't know.
	No, I really don't know.
	I don't keep you on the track.
	No, crazy.
	I'm 39.
	Wait, how about this?
	How old was everybody when they lost their virginity?
	I'll start.
	I'll start.
	I was 17.
	Same.
	Same.
	Just 17.
	Yeah.
	I was 16.
	16.
	16.
	Damn.
	I'm like a late plumer over here.
	17.
	Shit.
	Oh, yeah.
	I feel like 16, 17 is like average.
	Mr. Rawson donated $21.
	Morgan, you said a 35-year-old is too much of an age gap for you.
	But we both know you would date John Krasinski or Brad Pitt.
	Would you date Brad Pitt?
	Sure, yeah.
	Oh.
	Morgan.
	If you're Brad Pitt, then you're Brad Pitt.
	What about John Krasinski?
	I don't know who that is.
	The gym from the office.
	Have you seen The Office?
	I know what the office is, but I don't really want to office.
	The one who was dating the growner one.
	OJ donated $20.
	Females of the panel, do you enjoy performing Fallatio on your man?
	If no, why?
	Thank you in advance.
	Okay, OJ.
	Do you guys enjoy oral sex giving?
	Giving.
	I don't like it.
	I don't like it like that.
	I don't like it like that.
	But if I love my man, if I really care about my man, I want to make him happy.
	That comes from the character.
	I like, you know, showing appreciation.
	But I feel like I gotta like you and really like, really like want to do it.
	You gotta want to do it.
	You can't just give me the ass.
	I don't even want it if you don't want it.
	Yeah, it's like you don't want an unenthusiastic person.
	Yeah, if you gotta want to, you gotta grab that shit like a microphone.
	That's like 30, 30 seconds, and they're just like, can I get on top already?
	Yeah, if you don't want to do it, I don't even want you to do that shit.
	Damn.
	God loves you.
	You're a cheerful giver.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	I feel like a guy would still want it, even though you don't want to be.
	They be asking for it.
	They be asking for it.
	Once they feel that unenthusiastic head, they're like, nah, never mind.
	All that teeth and shit.
	They're going to be like, do better.
	What is it called?
	It's like a begrudging blowjob.
	Yeah, like a begrudging blowjob.
	I hate those.
	I don't know.
	Sometimes a girl, like, if it's a begrudging blowjob, I feel like maybe she puts in more effort because she's like, this cuts, it has to be quick, you know.
	I want to make it quick.
	Yeah, that means they're going to do it for a little while and stop.
	Which is like, just don't want to do it.
	Don't do it.
	Yeah, just don't do it.
	You got to put your heart in it.
	Put your heart.
	Passion.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay.
	You got to love it.
	All right.
	Okay.
	A couple more chats coming through.
	Dariel Underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Uh-oh.
	Shout out from NYC to Eric, Brian, and Andrew.
	Not going to lie.
	It looks like Eric is trying to take the purple brain dead machine tonight.
	I don't blame you.
	She's only for recreational use.
	She's got a man.
	Person shrugging.
	Exactly.
	She got a man.
	Let me give these dudes some lessons.
	Listen, just because we're on a podcast speaking from a masculine perspective, that don't mean we hate women.
	The truth is controversial enough.
	I've been looking at a lot of y'all comments.
	Y'all think because women happen to show teeth and smile around a man that he's a simp.
	No, I'm not going to agree with everything a woman says, but I want women to feel like I hate them.
	The truth is already controversial enough.
	I don't have to add salt and fume to the fire.
	I'm sure when we disagree, y'all was like, I don't like what he's saying, but I don't mean I want women to hate me.
	Like, you can be objective and still like women.
	I don't hate women, brothers.
	I hate to break it to you.
	I like how women look, smell, and all that shit.
	I don't hate them.
	I just don't agree with a lot of shit they do.
	The fuck pasty George donated $20.
	Most Western women chase after men.
	WHO have looks or money or both, and these men have lots of options, including women.
	Yet, they still try to get these men to commit to only them.
	Ha Master Malvoliant donated $20.
	Lily is the kind of girl you want to tie to the roof and tickle her.
	She needs more roses on her cheeks.
	That's weird.
	You know what?
	That's a fetch.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	Lillian is like the ghost from the movie Jiwan that lives in the attic.
	Yo, W's in the chat for Daniel.
	W's in the chat for Master Malalo.
	Sorry, Malvoliant?
	Malvoliant.
	Joe Murphy donated $20.
	Simplify question for the panel.
	$1 million house, $600,000 in debt, nice vehicle, 60% in debt, or tiny house, and 2,003 vehicle paid.
	Credit score doesn't matter, or the ability to make money, one or two.
	The ability to make money has a very important effect on that, on answering that question.
	Because depending on how much money you can make, how much money you make, you could pay that debt off.
	It's probably not going to be quick, but you know, it depends.
	It depends.
	Thank you, Joe.
	I appreciate it.
	Anybody else want to take a crack at this one?
	I spoke on it earlier.
	Lillian.
	I forgot what it said.
	Okay.
	We have Selena Gournes.
	Selena Wandaskor Gornes donated $20.
	Women, pay attention to your own words and logic versus what men say.
	You think body count doesn't matter, but men do.
	I like that.
	There go.
	Men don't need to have a low body count, but women do.
	However, both should.
	Selena, for once, I really agree with some shit you saying.
	There you go.
	Selena.
	W Selena.
	W Selena.
	Gournes in the chat.
	That's probably a dude, by the way.
	Is it a dude?
	I think it's a dude.
	I feel like it's a dude.
	It's okay.
	It's all right.
	You know, it's whatever.
	Honestly, though.
	Never mind.
	Wait, say it.
	No, I know.
	It's no.
	What are we going to say?
	Don't worry about it, Lillian.
	Okay, Brian.
	Brian, yeah.
	Brianne.
	Britannia.
	I don't know.
	Brianna.
	Okay, any final thoughts from any of the panelists?
	Speak now.
	Forever, hold your peace.
	Like the video.
	Good luck.
	Big labia matter.
	I like the debate to yet.
	I learned some stuff.
	She gave herself barely.
	The internet blessed her with the name.
	She was hilarious.
	This is for Morgan.
	O.J. Simpson donated $20.
	Morgan.
	You remind me of my cousin.
	I hate my cousin.
	I'm sure you're a great blow.
	Pink hair chick on the table is hot.
	Oh, my God.
	Pink hair chick.
	Pink dust.
	Oh.
	Oh, wow.
	Oh, he just told us.
	There it is.
	Wow.
	Who here can make that face?
	She's looking right now.
	By the way, toxic paying.
	Why are you looking at her?
	How is that toxic?
	She's just sticking her tongue out.
	That's.
	Where did you get that from?
	Easy donated $25.
	Thank you, man.
	W, Brian, for circling back to my question.
	Thank you, sir.
	Here's another $25.
	Get yourself a nice burrito.
	Panel, what do you think is important to ask the first day?
	I got this.
	Easy G. Thank you, man.
	You should.
	We need a hard G.
	Oh, my God.
	What?
	What is that?
	First, okay.
	What do you think is important to ask?
	You got to ask her body count.
	You got to ask her drug usage, current and past.
	You got to ask her politics.
	You got to ask if she's a feminist.
	You got to ask what she would do in the event of a zombie apocalypse if she's like, oh, I would just like let them kill me.
	Bro, she's not the one.
	Like a woman who's not willing to do the survival shit when it comes to a zombie apocalypse.
	She ain't the like find find a girl who will.
	She won't find a girl who will.
	She's not willing to survive with you.
	Oh, I'm just going to let the zombies take me.
	Fuck out of here, bro.
	What's she going to do in the zombie apocalypse?
	Very important shit.
	If she's not like, yo, we're going to fuck up some zombies.
	We're going to survive.
	We're going to build a hut.
	We're going to like find a jail and stay in the jail, you know?
	Whatever.
	I don't think you should ask a girl her body count on.
	You definitely should.
	You should ask her body count.
	You should ask.
	Are these questions valid for us to ask you guys in its appropriate office?
	Yeah, if you want to.
	I'm not asking that either.
	I don't want to know.
	I wouldn't care.
	I wanted to keep my appetite.
	I would not mind.
	You should also, what else should you ask on the first date?
	Do you want to have kids?
	I'd like to actually have a great relationship with their family.
	They have a good relationship with their father.
	Family, relationship with your family.
	Will you bow?
	I mean, that should be a given if she's on a date with me, obviously.
	This guy.
	Fucking.
	It's a given.
	What else?
	Morgan, what should you ask on the first date?
	Like, do they play like striker?
	What would I ask?
	Yeah.
	Or what should they ask you?
	I think, yeah, family.
	Like, your relationship with your family.
	yeah have you ever gotten the what's that pick That.
	Never mind.
	Anybody else, Lillian?
	Where do you see yourself at five years?
	Oh, yeah.
	That's a good one.
	Good one.
	I hate that question.
	Why?
	You're here.
	Because I might not even be here in five years.
	I don't know.
	But so, like, life is short.
	Don't think like that.
	I'm just saying, just like, I don't know.
	We got Selena Gournes.
	Selena Scorgornes donated $20.
	Yes.
	AI Ma Dude.
	If Maddie were here still, she'd remind you.
	She always remembered.
	Oh, Selena.
	W's in the chat for Selena.
	Definitely a dude.
	Selena Gournes.
	Master Malvoliant donated $20.
	Thank you, Master Brown.
	I would have many fetishes.
	I'm from the BDSM scene, but not the fake one.
	I would have many fetishes.
	And you just said thank you, Master.
	I did.
	Oh, my God.
	That's going to get cool.
	He's the one that likes to get wrapped up in leather.
	What does, I know what BDSM is, but what does it really stand for?
	So the bondage, domination.
	They like to get a domination.
	Yeah, bondage, domination.
	Well, wait, hold on.
	Bondage, domination, submission.
	Or no, it's either submission or sadism and masochism.
	Yeah, I think it's sadism.
	Yeah.
	That's crazy.
	Oh, like dangerous stuff.
	Yeah, they want to break bondage.
	They want you to domination.
	Nike masochism.
	Y'all like to get tied up?
	You think that's too much for him?
	If your man is going to put handcuffs on and tie you to the bed?
	I would want to put handcuffs on him and tie him to the bed.
	I bet you would.
	She wants to peg a dude.
	I would never.
	I don't like getting tired of him.
	Have you?
	She's laughing because she did peg a dude.
	Oh, you're, we got to know.
	She's Hegger.
	She's pegged.
	She got another peggy on the stage.
	She's going to go home and peg her boyfriend.
	Or sorry, not her boyfriend, the guy she's keeping her options open.
	No, I'm not keeping my options up.
	Oh, my bad.
	So do y'all think it's okay for a woman to peg her boyfriend?
	I would try it.
	So you don't look at your man differently.
	He said, yo, I'm just going, I want you to bust my ass tonight.
	You don't think I'm going to get him?
	I want to ask him if I could do it.
	Would you peg a guy?
	How would you ask him?
	You got like a bad person.
	Lillian has that dark feather.
	That's what he wants.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I would do it just to try it.
	And you're not going to look at him no differently.
	Why would you look at him?
	I'm going to look at him a little crazy, but like, it's okay because at least a man's G-spot is in their butt.
	That's what they said.
	I don't believe that shit.
	My G-spot is right here on the front.
	I don't know who made up that weird ass shit.
	My G-spot, you know where that shit is at.
	Where's that?
	You never had your ass ate, like, to know that.
	Oh, my goodness.
	No.
	I've had women try that shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	But that ain't the same as getting bent over, arching your back, and letting your girl go to work on you.
	Like, that's how you arch.
	Who said you had to arch?
	You've been, you might as well.
	You've been to no home offer.
	That shit is weird.
	I know at the end of the day, y'all are not going to look at that dude the same.
	And if y'all have an argument, you're going to black.
	And you shouldn't have looked at us.
	I was begging your ass last week.
	Now you're the gangster, huh?
	Y'all, nah, Y'all funny as hell, man.
	If he wants it.
	It's crazy, man.
	It's crazy.
	These girls are trying to peg people.
	It's wild.
	Everything a girl wants, I'm not going to give it.
	What the fuck?
	I had a girl tell me to spit in their mouth.
	I didn't do it.
	Just because she wanted it.
	Why?
	That shit nasty.
	I feel like Lillian could be an actress and be like, she plays like the evil billionaire corporate CEO lady in like Prison Break.
	Like, that could be you.
	I've never seen Prison Break.
	Okay, never mind then.
	Winter Powers.
	Why did you say you had a big labia in your, but you were joking?
	Oh, I was fucking joking.
	Yeah, because your big labias matter and you like that.
	Yeah, you're like, I'm a virgin and I have a big labia.
	And then you're like, JK.
	I was like, okay.
	Thank you.
	Let's see, what are the, oh, you wanted to talk about anything past second basis in addition to your body count.
	Oh, yeah.
	And then I was wondering.
	Safety of New York.
	Sucking.
	Anything past second base if that's in addition to your body count?
	Exactly.
	I would say on your way to third is the dicks out.
	Dicks out for first.
	So what's the second base?
	Like, it's a dicks out.
	It's an addition to your body count.
	Not if it's not in you.
	It can be out.
	That'll be it.
	No, no.
	You got to be inside of you.
	Looking at it and touching is not a body count.
	No, no, it's not.
	What the hell?
	First date question donated $20.
	What that mouth to tell?
	What that mouth?
	That's the first.
	Is that a problem?
	What that?
	What is that mouth donate?
	That is a first date question.
	That's the first date question.
	According to this guy.
	All right.
	I don't know.
	I think he might.
	Once Lillian's back, we're going to wrap the show.
	Joe McDonald.
	Joe underscore McDonald donated $20.
	W, Joe.
	Unfortunately, we will not see feminism fade away anytime soon, and the birth rate crisis will only get worse.
	Thankfully, the magnetic pole reversal event will take place within our lifetime.
	Yep.
	W's in the chat for Joe and the magnetic pole or whatever.
	What is that?
	I don't even know what that is.
	What is that?
	What is the magnetic pole?
	Anybody know what the magnetic computer internet just went to shite?
	The magnetic pole?
	Hello?
	All right, guys.
	Last call on the TTSs, we're going to wrap.
	So if you want to get a final message in, if you want to say something to one of the fine, very fine panelists here.
	Is that a compliment?
	No, not fine in that way.
	Like, not like looks.
	It was just like, you're fine, I guess.
	Damn, my internet just went to shit over here.
	Hold on.
	What the hell?
	Rip.
	Internet scuffed on laptop.
	Unfortunate.
	I don't think I can do a raid then.
	Cox again.
	This is Verizon now, apparently.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Okay.
	So, guys.
	Oh, we should have had you hold up.
	Whatever.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'd like to say, GG to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please.
	On your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again.
	We only have two more shows left.
	So final two shows this last week, Sunday and Tuesday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	And you can deal with our supposed or alleged misogyny, I guess.
	07's in the chat.
	Let me just see if my internet came back on.
	It looks like it did.
	So we'll try to do a raid.
	Let's see here.
	One sec, boys.
	We are going to raid the great.
	Oh.
	We're going to raid S-Fand TV.
	We're going to raid him.
	He's playing World of Warcraft.
	Lower the volume just a 10 on that.
	Gentlemen, I'll get your chat in here after we get the raid through.
	Some of your TTSs are just kind of coming through.
	Let me see.
	One sec, guys.
	Yeah, you can pull him up.
	Last call, guys, on any TTSs.
	You have like someone good in the end.
	All right, he's playing hardcore.
	He's in Hillsbrad.
	I got one from Mikao.
	He's playing World of Warcraft classic hardcore, I think.
	So we're going to send the raid over to SFAN.
	Thank you guys so much for watching on Twitch.
	Tell him to have a good stream.
	Tell him to hope he gets some good levels and some good loot while he's leveling there on his Torran shop.
	Oh, Torrin Shaman.
	I don't know about that.
	But we're going to send the raid now.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	Boom.
	Raid since.
	And he's, you know, playing this game.
	Oh, wow.
	Look at that.
	Wow.
	Great, great.
	He's got like this cool zoom in thing that is like automatic.
	Oh, there's the raid that just went through.
	Boom.
	And he's just grinding these mobs in Hillsbrad foothills and Dernhold Keep.
	Look at that.
	He's got a dagger.
	He's a Tauran shaman.
	Got a dagger.
	Well, normally he plays Paladin, so shaman is the sort of horde counterpart to the paladin.
	And, ooh, he just chain pull.
	Oh, wait, could we be witnessing a death here?
	No, these mobs are way too low level.
	No way he dies, but we'll see.
	Yeah, he's not going to die.
	This is hardcore, by the way, so if you die, that's it.
	You're done.
	You have to re-level.
	Okay.
	Really, like, restart your whole life and everything?
	You have to.
	Yes, you have to restart your whole.
	So, like, he's level 26.
	I don't know.
	It probably takes like anywhere from like it could take maybe 24-hour hours or something, but whatever.
	So if he dies, he goes back to zero.
	Well, he has to restart his character.
	Okay, last two chats, then we're going to wrap.
	Practicing gentlemen donated $20.
	A good starter question.
	And to the panel, what episode/slash arc of One Piece are you on?
	W if you're all correct.
	I've never seen it.
	L if you don't know what One Piece is.
	I love Bun Piece.
	I know what it is.
	I just, I haven't seen it.
	Never watched it.
	Don't want to.
	But anybody, One Piece enjoyers?
	I like the One Piece, the movie clips they made over the series.
	Can you eat that last banana, Lillian, please?
	The what? Twitch thing?
	Yeah.
	We'll do it another time, I think.
	Final chat coming through here.
	Saying to you, Selena Wandas Corgorn is donated $20.
	Last thing, more women need to watch this podcast in its entirety.
	They'd learn a lot if they can put aside their biased views.
	It's true, man.
	It's true.
	And then we have the super chat or whatever.
	Dragon's Talon.
	Each panelist give one example of toxic feminism if you can, quick.
	If you can.
	Go ahead.
	There are some, and I've looked in these before because it's things like work on and myself.
	Okay.
	Sorry there.
	I tried.
	I tried.
	I gave him a bit of time.
	I gave him a bit of time.
	I think women who just are extremely biased and feel like, you know, everything has to do with like their gender.
	Yeah, yeah.
	When it's just, you know, if it's a man, he's automatically wrong.
	Because I don't.
	I think feminism is can be toxic, but I think top I don't think femininity is toxic, and I don't think masculinity is toxic.
	I think people say toxic masculinity, that's an oxymoron.
	People are toxic.
	Masculinity is good.
	Femininity is good.
	All right, guys, that is it.
	Oh, can we hold on?
	That's weird how that's just bugging my that usually clears it.
	If you see that, Damien, like that little black bar, did you see that thing?
	If you just like bring up another one and then just like rebring it up, that typically will clear it.
	It's some weird bug with our OBS.
	Okay, guys, that's it for the show.
	07's in the chat.
	Interesting show.
	The panel was kind of, you know, I turned away.
	There were like three girls that were running late.
	The panel, maybe I should have just swallowed my pride and just been like, okay, fine.
	You guys can come on.
	But they're super late.
	Normally I'm pretty accommodating, but it was just kind of annoying.
	So I was like, you know what, guys, just back to LA you go.
	So it is what it is.
	But thank you guys for tuning in.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night, and we'll see you on Sunday for the last two shows.
	Good night, guys.

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