Whatever Podcast - 4B Movement?! ANGRY Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson! 120+ Body Count?! She LIES About VlRGlNlTY To Men?! She HIT Her BF?!

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4B Movement?! ANGRY Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson! 120+ Body Count?! She LIES About VlRGlNlTY To Men?! She HIT Her BF?! | Dating Talk #211

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	My name is Bree.
	I'm 23.
	Location?
	Atlanta.
	Yeah, we're okay.
	Atlanta, Georgia.
	All right.
	And I'm a preschool teacher.
	Okay.
	And you used to do OnlyFans.
	Yeah.
	But tell us the quick story, and we'll get more into it, but tell us a quick story.
	You quit.
	Yeah, I quit.
	But I quit OnlyFans a while ago.
	Okay.
	Then I moved to dancing, to stripping, and then I quit everything together.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	And you recently got baptized, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What denomination?
	Just curious.
	It's non-denominational.
	Okay.
	Well, we'll get into that a bit more later.
	We'll get everybody's introduction out of the way.
	What about you?
	My name's Barbie.
	I'm 21.
	Okay.
	I'm from LA.
	All right.
	And I was a stripper, a dancer.
	Okay, so you quit stripping?
	Yeah.
	What are you doing for work now?
	Nothing.
	Did you used to do anything else?
	OnlyFans?
	No.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sugar.
	You're still doing the sugaring, though, right?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hi, my name is Christine Wang.
	I'm 27, and I'm a model and content creator.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	LA.
	Like, grew up there?
	No, originally from New York, and then I lived in Austin.
	Okay.
	How long have you been in LA for?
	Three, four years now.
	Okay.
	So you, like your childhood up through high school, you were in New York?
	I was in New York until I was 12 and then Texas for high school.
	School, college lived here.
	All right.
	Okay.
	How uh real quick uh before you move on Brian, how tall are you, Christine?
	I'm 5'10.
	Christine or Christine.
	Christine, okay.
	How tall did you say you were?
	5'10.
	5'10.
	Okay, so it's appropriate for us to say that's a big wing.
	I'm just I couldn't help myself.
	I couldn't help myself.
	I couldn't help.
	All right, go ahead.
	I've heard that before.
	And okay.
	And you're also a vegetarian or vegan?
	I'm vegetarian.
	Vegetarian.
	Okay.
	So you eat cheese?
	I eat cheese and like eggs.
	Been vegetarian for 10 years.
	Okay, cool.
	What about you?
	Hi.
	My name is Leah.
	I'm originally from Ukraine.
	I live in LA.
	My occupation is theater.
	I'm graduating with my bachelor's degree next semester.
	All right.
	Age?
	21.
	21.
	Okay, welcome back.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is MJ, Official Melons with the Z on Instagram.
	I work in healthcare.
	I do.
	And I'm from Florida.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Healthcare.
	What do you do in healthcare?
	Healthcare.
	I do hands-off patient care.
	Okay.
	And you do, are you involved in any kind of S work?
	Yes, I do have OnlyFans.
	It's current.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And you're doing what on there?
	As far as content?
	Yeah, boy, boy, girl, solo content.
	What do you do?
	I do solo content.
	Do I have a history of boy girl content?
	For sure.
	I used to do videos with my ex and we're not together, so those videos are since taken down as I don't feel comfortable sharing content with someone I'm not with.
	And as far as that, I'm a micro-influencer on Instagram.
	I'm a plus-size influencer.
	So for my plus-size girlies, keep smiling.
	And what's your, what did you say your nickname was?
	Melons?
	Yeah, I go buy melons with the Z. Why melons?
	Because I love the fruit, you know?
	Oh, because of the fruit.
	And how I'm Bill.
	I saw poppy these days.
	Yeah, my Bill.
	What about you?
	I'm Melody.
	I'm 32.
	I'm from New York, Westchester.
	Travel nurse, RN.
	Okay.
	Shout out to my nurses.
	How long have you been doing travel nursing for?
	About six years now.
	Or actually, no.
	No.
	I've been nursing for six years, but after the pandemic, I started traveling.
	So you've been a registered nurse for six years.
	And then four.
	But travel nursing for four.
	How many different cities have you been in?
	I like to stay in the East Coast, but I did travel to the West Coast twice.
	Okay.
	But like how many total different assignments are on the show?
	Probably four or five.
	I'm up to.
	Okay.
	And then, let's see.
	And you said you're originally from Yonkers, New York.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My name is Shelby.
	I'm 18.
	I'm from Los Angeles, and I'm currently unemployed.
	I'm a college student at Santa Barbara City College.
	All right, what are you studying?
	Right now, I'm undecided, but maybe criminal law.
	All right, cool.
	Hi, Manissa.
	I'm 19.
	I'm a UCSB student, and I'm from the Bay Area.
	All right, I'm Brian Atlas, 35, Santa Barbara, California.
	Washed Up Over the Hill YouTuber, has been.
	Andrew, what about you?
	My Caucasian Andrew Wilson, by the way.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It's a popular entertainment channel on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, a political satirist.
	I enjoy doing debates from time to time.
	And my mission for the next four years is to put the liberals in the crystals.
	In the crystals?
	Yeah, we're putting the liberals in the crystals.
	In the crystals.
	They're going in the crystals.
	Into the crystals.
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	And just really quick before we get into people's relationship status, any schooling, we'll go around the table on this.
	Any schooling?
	College?
	I graduated college with a master's, not a master's, with two bachelors in finance and psychology.
	Finance and psychology.
	From Florida.
	Is it FSU?
	FSU.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm doing real estate school.
	Okay.
	Any college, though?
	No college.
	Okay.
	What about college for you?
	Yeah, I graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with an economics degree.
	Economics degree?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	As I mentioned before, it's CSUN University and bachelor's degree in one semester.
	In what?
	In one semester.
	In what?
	Spring 2025.
	No, no, no.
	What major?
	In what?
	Theater.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I went to Santa Fe College.
	I am a college dropout, but yeah, I love Santa Fe in Gainesville.
	All right.
	And then Bachelor's of Science in Nursing.
	Okay.
	But you became a nurse when you were 26, right?
	Correct.
	Did you get a different bachelor's prior to that?
	No, I think I might go back and get my NP, but we'll see what happens.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That is everybody's academic achievements.
	Going around the table once more.
	What's your current relationship status?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I'm single.
	How long have I been single?
	For like two years, and my longest relationship was six years.
	When did the six-year relationship end?
	Was that the one that ended two years ago?
	I'm assuming.
	No, I started dating him when I was 15, so we stopped dating when I was 20, so like three years ago.
	Okay.
	And then who broke up with who in the six-year relationship?
	I broke up with him because he was an addict.
	Okay.
	And then the most recent relationship, the one that ended two years ago, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him because I was I wanted to live my best life.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	How long have you been single for?
	Like six months.
	All right.
	Longest relationship?
	Five years.
	All right.
	Who broke up with who?
	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut in.
	I just wanted to make sure I got my notes right.
	For chair one, you broke up with him because you wanted to, quote, live your best life.
	Is that correct?
	The second guy, I broke up with him, yeah.
	See, okay.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Go ahead, Brian.
	Sorry.
	I just wanted to make sure I got my notes here.
	What about you?
	So who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him.
	The five-year relationship?
	Is that the one that ended six months ago?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm currently in a relationship, and my longest relationship was four and a half years.
	All right.
	How long have you been in this current relationship?
	Eight months.
	Eight months, okay.
	And the longest relationship you were in, the four and a half year one, who broke up with who?
	I broke up with him because I wanted to live my best life.
	Wait, that was the actual reason?
	Yeah, I guess, yeah.
	Okay.
	So there's no issues in the relationship.
	There were issues, of course.
	But, yeah.
	But so you broke up with him because you wanted to live your best life.
	Yeah, and he wasn't like going to be part of it.
	Like, he wasn't part of that.
	It wasn't working out.
	How soon after the breakup did you have a new guy?
	Like three months.
	Three months?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So when you say you wanted to live your best life, what does that look like?
	What does that mean?
	Just like the things that I wanted to do, we just didn't have similar interests.
	Okay.
	What was that?
	Like, he didn't like music.
	He didn't like music.
	He didn't like doing things that I like to do.
	I don't want to get too into it right now.
	What a dweeb.
	Huh?
	Who doesn't like music?
	I know.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Wait, actually, going to you really quick because it just popped into my head, but I'll continue around here.
	You were recently on the reality TV show?
	Yes, yes.
	I was on Farmer Wants a Wave.
	What is it called?
	Farmer Wants a Wife.
	Did you catch you a cowboy?
	I tried.
	It didn't work.
	I tried it.
	I don't think that.
	Did you get eliminated like early on?
	No, no.
	I made it to the last two girls.
	To the final, too.
	To the final, too.
	Which station was it on?
	It's on Fox and on Hulu.
	It's out right now?
	Yeah, yeah.
	You guys go watch it.
	Go watch it.
	Well, actually, no, don't watch it.
	We worked out on that.
	Farmer Wants a Wife.
	It's a series from the UK and Australia.
	So they try keeping it very innocent.
	But then they bring it, they brought it back to America.
	And they just, I don't know if the ratings are too good because it's like extremely, extremely a little bit more.
	And I wouldn't say boring, but I think it's for more like relaxing at night.
	It's not like a Jersey Shore type of show.
	It's really family-oriented, like maybe not family, but more, you know, on the good end of the spectrum.
	Okay.
	So going back to you, he didn't like music?
	Yeah, we just didn't have a lot in common.
	So you wanted to like rave and shit?
	Yeah.
	It was that, yeah.
	I love to rave.
	Okay.
	So he didn't want to go to raves?
	What?
	So wait, when you say he didn't like music, do you mean he didn't like live music?
	No, he didn't like music.
	He didn't like music.
	Any music?
	He didn't any music.
	He didn't have like a favorite song or anything?
	Not really.
	Or if he did, it was like really weird music.
	Like what?
	I don't even remember.
	Just like weird.
	Name a song.
	I don't remember because I didn't listen to the same music.
	Was it like Swedish death metal or something?
	What?
	It was like Germanic.
	Like Ramstein?
	I don't know.
	Duhast.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like no one that you would like listen to.
	It was like German, but also like country folk.
	Yeah.
	Wait, actually, can you pull up Erica?
	Erica?
	No, you're just going to have to type it in.
	We don't have it pulled up.
	You're going to have to Google it.
	I have, I think I know the song that he was listening to.
	We'll play it here and you tell us.
	Yeah, Erica.
	Lower the volume a little bit.
	Not like that.
	No.
	Just music everyone.
	It's not bad.
	I'm burning.
	It's not like that.
	Pause it.
	Is it this?
	No.
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's just not music that anybody would recognize, honestly.
	Okay.
	So you broke up with him because he didn't.
	Not the same music days.
	Not the same anything, honestly.
	We just didn't have a lot of stuff in common.
	But it took you four and a half years to figure that out.
	Yeah, because we moved here together and we had like the same circle of friends.
	So it just made it inconvenient to.
	But I mean, I'm sure like fairly early on into the relationship, you would have had some sense of like, okay, we don't have a lot of commonalities.
	Not like four and a half years in, right?
	Yeah, well, we had some things in common.
	Like he was also in the creative industry.
	So it worked out that we both wanted to come to LA together.
	Okay.
	And then we were living together, so it made things complicated.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Relationship status?
	Single for two years.
	All right.
	Single for two years.
	Longest relationship?
	Two and a half years.
	Who broke up with who?
	They broke up with me.
	They?
	I just didn't want to identify the area.
	No, I was a woman.
	Just didn't want to make it that obvious right away.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Relationship status?
	I'm currently single.
	How long have you been single?
	I've been single for going on three years.
	All right.
	Longest relationship.
	My longest relationship was 10 months.
	10 months.
	Okay.
	Wait, longest relationship, 10 months.
	Yeah, I mean.
	Was that the one that ended three years ago?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Who broke up with three?
	The 10-month relationship?
	Who broke up with who?
	It was amicable, but mostly me on my side.
	What do you mean, mostly you?
	Because I should have broken up with him long, like when the problem started, but I kind of like just let it go and go and allow the cheating.
	So, and then finally, honestly, for the benefit of his life, I figured it would be better for him if we weren't together, even though ultimately I wanted to break up, but I didn't do it for me because I was just being selfish.
	I'd just been selfish.
	All right.
	Your longest relationship, 10 months.
	That was three years ago.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You say you're single now, though?
	Yeah.
	How many guys are currently in the picture?
	As far as dating one.
	How long have you been talking to that guy?
	About 10 months.
	10 months?
	Hold on.
	Are you guys exclusive?
	Not really.
	Not really.
	What do you mean?
	So how many other guys are you seeing?
	I'm not seeing anyone, honestly.
	Have you only been seeing him for the 10 months?
	Or have there been other guys in the picture?
	There's no other guys in the picture, you know, but, you know, it doesn't get serious, you know, three months, four months, you're just talking.
	It's long distance.
	So, you know, as far as where we are in 10 months, I feel like eight to nine months, they've been the only one in the picture.
	Because it's gotten serious.
	It's progressed.
	What's the biggest your roster has ever been?
	Oh, maybe four.
	Four?
	For sure, yeah.
	Four, yeah.
	And when you, and that's like hooking up with, right?
	No, I would say maybe, maybe one or two, but two at the same time?
	No.
	Just.
	Well, not like a threesome.
	No.
	Have you had a threesome?
	I don't know.
	Oh, I mean in the past, but okay.
	Four zombies.
	More than the foursome?
	Yeah, actually, yeah.
	You've had a foursome?
	I have.
	How many?
	Like two girls, two guys?
	It was two girls and then my ex.
	So threesome?
	Not in the foursome?
	It was two girls and my ex.
	Oh, so, okay, okay, okay, okay.
	Two girls plus you.
	Yes.
	You're not the woman?
	What?
	Two girls.
	Yes.
	Wait, including you or not?
	Obviously, including my son.
	So a threesome.
	So it's her, two girls, and the ex.
	That's four people.
	That's a foursome.
	Sorry, hold on.
	Let me get that here.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Four plus two plus one is four.
	Well, I assume two girls, including you.
	No, yes, but then my ex.
	And then the threesome was two guys.
	Five some plus?
	No.
	Foursome's the max.
	For sure.
	Okay.
	Sweet.
	Okay.
	I was manipulated into it, though.
	You manipulated into the foursome?
	I was manipulated into the foursome, yes.
	How were you manipulated into the foursome?
	Because I was throwing a party.
	Yep.
	And at my place, and people were coming over, and my ex at the time said he was inviting an old friend.
	And this old friend came with a girl.
	And so as the party progressed, you know, I was hosting, you know, making the drinks, fixing the food, walking around, making sure everyone was okay.
	The friend of his would come up to me and she's like, Oh my gosh, you are so pretty.
	Oh my gosh, your place is so nice.
	You're cooking.
	Wow, you're you're fucking you know, beautiful.
	Sorry.
	And so, you know, I was like, you know, I accepted the compliment.
	And then eventually the other girl would come, oh my gosh, you are so hot.
	You're such a good woman.
	I'm going to steal you away from your man.
	I'm like, oh my God, thank you.
	So it was like constant compliments, right?
	And then he would come up to me and would be like, oh my God, they're filling you.
	Like, you know, if you want to do something with them, you can.
	You know, I'm not going to do anything if that's your choice if you want to.
	I'm like, no, I'm good.
	I'm not going to do anything with them.
	Okay.
	So fast forward, the party was over.
	They were still hanging out.
	And I went upstairs to kind of unwind for the night.
	And one of the girls followed me upstairs and she was like, oh, you're so pretty.
	Like, oh my gosh, we should do something upstairs.
	And I'm like, no, I'm good.
	But it's getting late.
	Let me walk you out.
	So as I go downstairs, he's clapping cheeks with the other girl in my living room.
	And like, he's like, he's like, clapping cheeks downstairs.
	Clapping cheeks?
	You know.
	What's clapping cheeks?
	Like.
	Oh.
	Clapping cheeks.
	Clapping dem.
	Cheers.
	Yeah.
	He was humping one of the chicks downstairs, right?
	And so he pops out and like quickly confronts me.
	He's like, What's going on?
	Are you good?
	Like, why aren't you upstairs?
	Aren't you?
	You're not having fun.
	What's going on?
	And he goes, and so as he's doing this, like, he's caressing me.
	And the girl's like, you know, it's okay.
	Like, oh my gosh.
	What?
	So in that moment, it was either I could be cheated on or I could have a foursome.
	Damn.
	And so I chose the foursome.
	And as one does.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's all about, you know, it's like a good save.
	For sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's like.
	And then I regretted it the next morning.
	And then he freaking gaslighted me and was like, oh, like, why would you do that?
	Then now you made me feel bad because I did it.
	And it was a very toxic relationship.
	It was.
	Okay.
	To say the least.
	And you're 32, right?
	No.
	I'm actually 27 today, November 10th.
	Oh, happy birthday.
	Don't show me.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	32?
	God damn, where are you getting that from?
	Oh, shit.
	That's you're 32.
	Sorry.
	No fancy good.
	My notes got all scuffed up.
	Wait, so you're 27, longest relationship 10 months.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm 32.
	Okay.
	Making me feel super old.
	You look good.
	Number one thing, though, with women, I would never have a threesome.
	Not because it doesn't sound fun, but I don't want my man to go somewhere.
	Right?
	So if he's like touching somebody else in front of your face, you wouldn't, I would go crazy.
	That's what I would do.
	Would you rather do it behind your back?
	Sorry?
	Would you rather him do it behind your back?
	I could choose for that not to happen behind my back or in front of my face.
	It's not going down.
	Does it happen?
	It do happen.
	Or it's to everybody, but that doesn't make it.
	It's going to be worse for a girl if you're allowing him to do that in front of your face.
	Because then what is he going to do behind your back?
	All right.
	That's where I'm at now for sure.
	Trust me.
	I don't care.
	I get what you're saying.
	It's a very fine line of like complicated.
	But what if he's like, I'll do it with you?
	And I'm going to do it.
	Well, it depends on what you want.
	Like, what do you want?
	Do you want to have, do you like girls?
	If you don't, if, because me personally, I like the, can I say that word?
	I don't like, I don't like the, I don't like girls, right?
	So if a girl is interested into that kind of thing, that's on, that's up to you, not him.
	You understand what I'm saying?
	Just thought I just throw that out there because I would not be doing that.
	All right, relationship status.
	Complicated.
	Okay.
	Complicated.
	Well, I was on a farm trying to find a cowboy from New York so we could start there.
	And then we did the reality TV show.
	Didn't really work out.
	And I've been, I could say, like, single, single since after the show.
	Single, nothing too serious as of right now.
	But I am talking and talking to people.
	Okay.
	How many people?
	Right now, one.
	Like, solidly.
	Well, people is plural.
	Okay, well, this is a funny story.
	Because when I came back from the show, I was hanging out with one of my old sides.
	Does that make sense?
	You come back from, like, being home.
	You hit your old friend up hanging out.
	So then we stopped talking and then I ended up kind of talking to his friend, maybe?
	Period.
	That's where I'm at.
	Longest relationship?
	Five years.
	Okay, five years.
	Who broke up with who?
	I think it was respectfully mutual.
	I know people say that, but I think it was like the both of us knew that we loved each other, but we had to, it wasn't going to work out between him and I. Wait, okay.
	Hold on.
	So wait, complicated.
	So the guy you're currently seeing, how long have you been seeing him?
	Well, I've known him for a while.
	We just started kind of trying to date more.
	So probably, I would say a solid two months, maybe.
	Okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	Hold on.
	I told you it was complicated.
	Okay.
	So there's other guys in the picture then?
	Because they've been around before, you know?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for three years.
	My longest relationship, like seven or eight months.
	And he broke up with me.
	Okay.
	Why?
	Because it was kind of mutual, but he was the one that broke up with me.
	I don't know.
	I was on Accutane.
	It was bad.
	I had no self-confidence, but.
	Wait, he broke up with you because of your acne?
	Yeah.
	Wouldn't you have had the acne when you guys started dating?
	No, I went on Accutane right when we started dating.
	Does Accutane make it worse?
	Yeah.
	For a little bit?
	Yeah.
	It makes it really bad.
	Okay.
	But you guys did for seven, eight months?
	Yeah, so.
	So it was bad when you started dating?
	Yeah.
	No, it wasn't that bad.
	I went on Accutane and then my acne, it got way worse and then stress caused me to do that.
	Were you guys in love?
	No, not really.
	Like, did you ever say I love you, Tim?
	I did, but I didn't.
	Did you say it back?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	You didn't mean it?
	No.
	Are you only saying that because you guys broke up?
	No, I didn't really love him.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Nisa, what about you?
	I have a boyfriend.
	We've been together for five months.
	And my longest relationship was a year.
	All right.
	Cool.
	That's everybody's relationship status.
	Brie, what's the story here?
	You used to do OnlyFans.
	What happened?
	Okay, I got, do you really want the whole story?
	Do I summarize it real quick?
	Because it's like a lot.
	What do you mean a lot?
	Okay, basically, I was doing OnlyFans.
	I did OnlyFans since I was 18.
	And then it's kind of all I knew.
	And then I quit for a while.
	And then I came back to OnlyFans beginning of this year, like February.
	And when I started again, the money wasn't the same.
	So, I was like, well, this isn't going to work.
	I need to make more money.
	And once you get addicted to fast money, it's like you have to keep making fast money.
	So, I got into dancing.
	And when I got into dancing, I was drinking every day, partying every day, doing crazy stuff.
	And I. What kind of crazy stuff?
	Like, can I say that?
	You were taking substances.
	Yeah.
	I'm assuming.
	Yes, yes.
	Okay.
	So, yeah, it just wasn't me, but I thought I was happy.
	I thought it was okay.
	And it just got deeper and deeper until I hit rock bottom.
	And then I came, the Holy Spirit came to me and saved my life.
	And then we have, why don't we pull up the stories really quick?
	We'll just go through the stories.
	I saw the stories and I can you pull it up?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Make it a little bigger, please.
	All right.
	You hadn't been honest with yourself, your family, friends, most importantly, you had strayed away from God.
	After almost losing your life one too many times, you're done.
	Done with the hard drugs and alcohol.
	You're done with the stripping, done with escorting, done with online prostitution, done with selling a piece of my soul.
	Every time I needed a dollar, I lost everything thinking I had everything.
	I'm on the way back to my family now after finally telling them everything I had been doing.
	I never, I'm never coming back to LA.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm not.
	You can no longer, I mean, it is sort of, you gotta, to come to Santa Barbara, you kind of gotta go to LA first.
	I can no longer sense with reality divine intervention is real.
	Last time I had sex, I closed my eyes and begged God to end it forever.
	He gave me another chance at life.
	I'm taking the chance.
	I'm okay and I'm taking a break from social media to save myself.
	I'd rather have a normal life than ever go through what I went through again.
	God saves me and He can save you too.
	Next, God is great.
	Okay, next.
	That's when I got my job.
	Getting baptized November 3rd.
	Yeah.
	Okay, next.
	And is this you just reading the Bible?
	Okay, all right.
	Next.
	And then make it bigger, please.
	All right, play the video.
	And then this is you on the 3rd, right?
	Getting baptized?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And do you want to see?
	Is he just like yelling at you?
	No, he's praying over me.
	Yeah.
	Do you actually see you get baptized in this?
	Yes, yes.
	Okay.
	Does it take a while to get there?
	Or is it pretty quick?
	He's about to do it.
	Yeah.
	He's just telling me that no matter what.
	Why is there all that graffiti on the tub?
	Oh, signatures.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Graffiti on the tub.
	He's about to dunk me into it.
	Okay.
	So he's just talking to you, walking you through it.
	He was telling me that no matter what happened in the past, that God still loved me.
	And that's why I was crying.
	And then he baptized me.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	And like, how many people are getting baptized in a day at these, like, at these events?
	Is it a lot of people?
	So this was an open baptism at my church, at my home church.
	And basically, anyone that wants to come up and get baptized can.
	And it just happened to be on two days after the Holy Spirit came to me and saved my life.
	It just happened to be that day.
	Okay.
	And shoot.
	Sorry.
	I totally lost my train of thought here.
	So you're done with like done.
	Like you deleted your OF.
	My OnlyFans are both gone.
	The free one and the paid one.
	Free and the paid.
	Okay.
	They're both gone.
	All right.
	And all my pictures on my Instagram are gone.
	Yep.
	We noticed that.
	Yeah.
	And then I did want to ask you about this.
	So Last time on the show, I mean you were on the show two times previously, right?
	Like two or three times.
	Yeah.
	You said you were, there's a lot of lying, which is part of the OnlyFans thing, right?
	You just lie about shit for like clips or whatever.
	What's the scope of the lying?
	What do you mean?
	Like, okay, you said you were a virgin.
	Okay.
	Not a virgin.
	No.
	Okay.
	Are you born-again virgin now, though?
	I guess, since my past life is dead.
	That's what baptism is.
	And what kind of content were you making?
	Was it boy girl content?
	No, it was just solo.
	Wait, never BG?
	I mean, I think twice I'm supposed to be G, but it was never on it since I started again this year.
	Okay.
	But you did do, like, and in that original story, you said you were doing escorting too?
	Well, it's kind of like sugaring, but I still consider that's like sex work.
	Sugaring to me is the same thing as escorting.
	It's like you are with this guy for money.
	He's paying you.
	Like, that's still escorting.
	But whether you want to call your sugar daddy, whether you want to call it whatever.
	So that's why I said that.
	Okay.
	And when you say sugaring, like they would pay you money and you'd have sex.
	No, like they take you on dates.
	You go places with them.
	They take you to events.
	They take you to whatever.
	Bring you around your friends.
	It's like dating, but they're just paying you too.
	So I still think that's a scoring.
	Like, girl, you are still getting money at the end of the day.
	Same thing.
	Same thing.
	Okay, sorry, guys.
	I'm fucking dealing with some stuff.
	Okay, and then you're involved in this also.
	Andrew, can you take over for just a sec?
	I need to deal with some shit.
	Hello?
	I can, yeah, no problem.
	So diving into this real quick with you, if I remember correctly, and can you correct me if I'm wrong?
	You were on Fresh and Fit.
	Yeah.
	Is that right?
	Okay.
	I seem to remember that there was an exchange there, a virginity exchange.
	Is that correct?
	Is that what I remember?
	Oh, you think that was a virgin?
	Yes, that was all a lie.
	I was not a virgin.
	I was with a guy for six years since I was 15.
	Obviously, I wasn't a virgin.
	Yeah, had you been baptized at that point?
	I was baptized when I was a little kid, but I feel like when you're that age and you're so young and you're baptized, you don't know the commitment you're making.
	You don't know really what's going on.
	Your parents are just like, let's get the baptized.
	I grew up Catholic, so it's just part of growing up.
	But now that I got baptized again, it's like I never.
	Why would you get baptized again?
	Why do you need to get baptized?
	Especially if you're Catholic.
	Like they did.
	I'm not Catholic anymore, and you get baptized.
	It's called like a re-baptism.
	It's to recommit to God.
	When you stray away from God and you sin and do all that stuff, it's like a symbol of recommitment to him, accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior.
	You can get baptized twice.
	It's like how people renew vows.
	Yeah, to bring them to the body.
	They're all marrying them.
	After 10 years, you renew your vows.
	Well, why not get re-baptized every other week?
	Because it doesn't work like, oh, I'm going to get baptized now.
	All my sins are cleared.
	It's a huge commitment.
	It's like a big deal.
	And she said she was young, so that kind of commitment at a young age, you don't know how vital and the importance behind it as well.
	Yeah, I was like eight years old.
	I didn't know what it meant.
	I just knew that we had nice.
	Well, what does it mean?
	It's a symbol of your commitment to Christ and to your new walk in life.
	Like, I was sinning a lot, obviously.
	Like, I said on the post on Instagram, everything I was doing.
	So, I was sinning a lot.
	So, it's like when you get baptized again, it's like clearing, not clearing, it's a symbol of you leaving that behind.
	It doesn't fix your sins.
	You can't get baptized every week and just be like, okay, baptized, baptized, baptized, and keep doing what you're doing.
	You have to repent for what you did, which do you know what repent means?
	I do, yeah.
	Yeah, repent.
	Like, you know you're sinning, you turn away from sin and you go the other direction.
	That is repent.
	You can't just apologize, say sorry, and keep doing what you're doing.
	So, I repent.
	So, the point of the point of this baptism from your perspective was to show your devotion to Jesus Christ.
	Yes, I've devoted my life to him now.
	Like, I left alcohol.
	How long ago was that?
	Okay, it's about been two, three weeks, two and a half.
	Three weeks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, you've been, you've been walking the tightrope, narrow Christian path for three weeks.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, when all of this stuff, now this was your re-baptism, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So, uh, you've made a commitment then that you're going to come clean about basically all of these things or what's going on with this?
	Yeah, so I have left alcohol.
	I've left any other substances.
	I've left everything.
	What is going on?
	Okay, I've left alcohol.
	I've left secular music.
	Like, I used to love Future Little Baby.
	I left listening to rap music, secular music.
	I try to be modest now.
	I threw away all my non-modest clothing.
	And the most important one is no sex until marriage.
	I'm not having that.
	Do you think you're wearing modest clothing right now?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	I mean, this is pretty modest.
	It's a dress down to my ankles, and I'm wearing a shawl over my shoulders.
	I think it's pretty modest.
	Well, what do you think the purpose of modesty is?
	I was dressing.
	So I looked at before how I was dressing before I got baptized before the whole thing happened.
	And I realized I wasn't dressing just because I was dressing based on how much attention and validation I would get.
	Like, are guys going to pay me more money, basically?
	Like, am I going to make more money?
	Am I going to get more attention?
	Am I going to get more validation?
	My value was based on how much attention I was getting from guys.
	Now that the whole thing happened, it's like I don't want that attention from guys.
	I don't want my value isn't based on how many guys are looking at me.
	It's based on just me and my relationship with God.
	Like, I'm not dressing anymore for the eyes of men, but I'm dressing for God.
	Let me ask you a question.
	I noticed that you're wearing a cross necklace.
	Were you wearing cross jewelry before your baptism?
	I had this bracelet, but I mean, wearing cross jewelry doesn't really mean anything unless you are like, like you could wear a cross necklace and still do, or a cross bracelet and still do bad things.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	I'm just curious if you were wearing the same type of jewelry before your baptism.
	No, this cross necklace I got after my baptism, but the bracelet I had before.
	Okay, I understand.
	All right, so backing up on the Fresh and Fit Exchange, why was it that you were lying in that exchange exactly?
	Because it got me a lot of attention, a lot of clout, and I was making a lot of money.
	Okay, so you were doing it for the purposes of making money.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Now, let me ask you this.
	Try to think of this from the other angle.
	Yeah.
	Would you agree with me that there are a lot of women who are former prostitutes in some regard or another, and it has become somewhat trendy inside of our culture for these former prostitutes to move over and say that they're now devoted Christians.
	And the purpose of this is to make a brand new brand of content with a kind of a brand new brand for audiences, right?
	Rather than an actual movement over to the ethical Christian faith.
	Would you agree that that's an actual trend which has been going on?
	I don't know if that's true because I lost a lot of followers after I did the same thing.
	I'm not talking about you specifically.
	I'm just asking if you've noticed that there's this trend that's happening.
	I think whether or not they're doing it for whatever reason, if they truly accept Jesus Christ as their savior, that's a win because the more people that believe in Christ, that's good.
	Like, if they can I say something?
	Yeah.
	Say something really quick.
	I think with anything in your life.
	Hang on.
	I'm almost cover the exchange and then we'll let you jump in, okay?
	Sure.
	So I just might just want to finish the exchange up.
	So if you if you but do you agree with me that that such a trend exists, that there's a lot of women who do move over to Christian ethics from being a former prostitute for the purposes of essentially what they call grifting, right?
	Which is now they're selling Jesus merchandise and this and that.
	Selling Jesus merchandise is actually not like accepted.
	Like that is actually against the Bible.
	Yeah, I know.
	So you would agree that that's kind of grifty, right?
	I've never seen a girl turn over from OnlyFans or whatever she was doing and sell Jesus merchandise.
	Yeah, you ever heard of a woman named Dolla Ray?
	Because she sure did.
	But in any case, that aside, I guess what I'm getting at here ultimately is that if you were essentially lying for the purposes of gathering money, gathering clout, and this type of thing, and then we assume perhaps there was a backfire, you were caught in some sort of lies and this and that.
	Why should we then assume that just, you know, after devoting your life to Christ for a whopping three weeks, that you're not lying now?
	Why should that be the assumption now?
	If you were lying about everything before, why should we assume you're not lying about everything now?
	I mean, I don't care if I think, if you think I'm lying, like, I don't even know you.
	I'm doing this for God.
	I'm not doing this for Andrew.
	But can you repeat?
	Can you repeat back?
	Like, I don't repeat.
	I don't know you.
	Why would I?
	No, can you repeat back the question that I asked you?
	Yeah, you said you're.
	How do you, how do we know you're not lying now?
	Well, if you were in my life, but you're not, because we don't know each other, if you were in my life, you'd know I threw all my non-modest clothing away.
	I drove from LA to Atlanta back home to my family for five days straight, crying, listening to Christian music, listening to gospel, listening to scripture.
	I did all of that.
	I drove five days.
	I left my apartment here.
	I left all my stuff here.
	I just left and drove for five days straight.
	I threw away everything.
	I stopped drinking alcohol, but you don't know me.
	So how would you see that?
	Yeah, right.
	So that's, well, this is the question, right?
	So imagine, kind of imagine the shoe on the other foot.
	Think about it from the outsider's view.
	Somebody came over to them and said, listen, everything you've ever heard out of me before today was a complete lie.
	But from here on out, I'm only going to tell you the truth.
	Would you believe them?
	I don't know because that's what I think.
	No, I believe people can change, and also I'm not, again, doing this for the outsider's perspective.
	I'm not doing this for nobody else.
	I'm doing this for me.
	I'm doing this for God.
	I'm doing this because I want to love God.
	I want to devote my life to God.
	That's it.
	I'm not doing this for acceptance.
	I'm not doing this for nice messages.
	I'm not doing this for you or him or her or nobody.
	I'm doing this for me.
	Amen, girl.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, everyone's faith is individualized.
	Yeah, like that.
	Final point from Andrew, and then I'm moving things along.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Yeah, I would just like to just very quickly just a show of hands at the table.
	If somebody told you that everything you've ever heard from them just up until the last two weeks had been a lie, but now they're going to start telling the truth all the time.
	Would you believe them?
	Show of hands if you would believe them?
	If you would or wouldn't?
	Would.
	I'm going to pray for them and hope that they get there.
	I don't think it's about left or right thing.
	It's not if you believe them or not.
	You want them, as a Christian or a Catholic person and loving God, you want them to do better.
	So it's not about lying or truthfulness.
	I guess I just want to point out that none of you raised your hand.
	I just want to point that out.
	I think if I saw everything that she did, I would believe her.
	Just two?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Like I said, if they saw everything that I did, then you would maybe think, okay, maybe this is real.
	Who's going to go in front of a church and a front of however many hundred people to get baptized just because I want to start selling Jesus merch?
	And which selling Jesus merch, whoever is doing that, that is actually against the Bible.
	So if you're doing that, please stop.
	But yeah, no.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Didn't somebody have to make that cross and sell it that you're wearing?
	But if you are going on your Instagram and you are just selling, actually, Christ burned down a church for that because of that.
	Didn't you buy the cross you're currently wearing around your neck?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I guess whoever made this cross.
	Did they have to sell that?
	Like somebody made it.
	Somebody who made this cross is, well, they didn't say nothing about buying it, but Jesus.
	Is it just not?
	Is it just only okay to sell crosses if you're like Target?
	Or can people make them?
	Like, what are you doing?
	But if you're doing it for money, if you're showing your love to God and all that, I'm pretty sure Target's doing it for money.
	I'm pretty, like, I'm pretty confident that you're doing it.
	Like, if you're doing it strictly because you want to make more money and your OnlyFans ran out, like, that is bad.
	Captain Something1 donated $200.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	It's pretty accurate.
	It's good.
	It comes back like this.
	Besides, you have to move things on.
	Welcome to the table.
	Name, age.
	Oh, also, I need you speaking close to the microphone, okay?
	Name, age, occupation, location?
	Diana.
	I'm 34.
	I'm from Hawaii.
	I just moved back to Long Beach.
	And you said, what else?
	Occupation?
	Business owner.
	What's the nature of your business?
	Salon?
	Beauty salon.
	Okay.
	What kind of services do you offer?
	Is it like a specific like nails or is it just everything?
	A little bit of everything button.
	So facials, makeup, skincare, scalp treatments, braiding, and that nature.
	Hair coloring, cuts.
	Okay.
	And then schooling, any school?
	I have a bachelor's in psychology, master of social work.
	I have my phlebotomy stuff.
	Few others.
	In cosmetology, of course.
	Okay.
	Relationship status?
	Single.
	Single.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single for?
	Since summer 2022.
	So two and a half years.
	Yeah, just about.
	Longest relationship?
	Eight years?
	Eight years.
	Who broke up with who?
	I did.
	You broke up with him?
	Yeah.
	Well, divorce.
	Okay, you were previously married?
	Yes.
	Do you have kids?
	I do.
	Okay, how many kids?
	Five.
	Five kids.
	From the eight-year-old.
	All from one father, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And was that the relationship that ended two and a half years ago?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Why did you divorce him?
	I caught him cheating.
	Caught him cheating?
	Like you walked in and he was clapping cheeks?
	More like we're playing hide and seek.
	I came back from training.
	I was in the middle of the day.
	Wait, you were playing hide and seek?
	No, it was more like hide and seek.
	I was in the military and I was just search and destroy.
	What is that?
	Seek and destroy?
	What is it?
	What's the term?
	I'm like a guy.
	Seek and destroy?
	Search and destroy?
	No, it's definitely not that.
	I know what you're talking about.
	And to say.
	Anyways, I don't know.
	Okay.
	Okay, you were in the military?
	I came home.
	Wait, he was a military spouse.
	Was he in the military spouse?
	He's the military spouse.
	I was in the military.
	Whoa, this is like reverse.
	He's the stay-at-home dad.
	Whoa, this is totally reverse.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	What branch?
	Army.
	What was your MOS?
	92 Alpha.
	Logistics.
	This is like the total reverse.
	Normally you hear, dude, married to woman.
	Was he a dependapotamus?
	Yeah, you can say so.
	He was a dependent?
	He has my paycheck, like my checkbook.
	He writes his own check every month.
	Wait, were you, how long, you guys were married for how long?
	Let's see.
	I can't even count right now.
	Well, we were together when I was 15.
	Oh, wait.
	Yeah, like it goes back to high school.
	But you said you broke up two and a half years ago, but you were only together.
	Wait, married for eight years?
	Married.
	Married, married, yeah.
	Eight years.
	Oh, together for how long?
	I lost track of that one.
	Wait, so okay.
	You broke up.
	So you broke up when you were 31.
	So you're 34 now?
	No, no, no.
	No, we're divorced earlier.
	But when I say I'm single, it's from a relationship, not with him.
	Like me and my baby daddy or my ex-husband, we're no longer together.
	Wait.
	Ex-husband, different than baby daddy.
	No, no, no.
	Same person.
	Same person.
	I'm saying like my relationship.
	You're asking when was my last relationship?
	That was.
	Two and a half years ago.
	Yeah, my last relationship.
	But it wasn't my marriage, though.
	Wait, it wasn't.
	It was not my husband.
	The last relationship was not that ex-cause I thought when I asked the one that ended two and a half years ago, if it was the oh, it's okay.
	Wait, so okay.
	So the when were you divorced?
	2016?
	2016.
	Okay.
	And you were together for how long?
	Since I was 15.
	But like how long total were you together?
	Because you said you were married for eight, but people date before, right?
	It was just him.
	Yeah, I always date him.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	This is like old news.
	Five kids?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How old were you when you first got pregnant?
	16.
	Teenage moment.
	Teenage mom.
	Were you on the MTV show?
	I wish.
	She was on.
	She's on an MTV show.
	No, it's on MTV.
	It's Hulu.
	Oh, even worse.
	Close enough.
	I did the teen mom thing TV show.
	I wish I was on there because they'd be making some money.
	Yeah, they're pretty much.
	But I had my kids before that show popped up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Let me just get a better recap here.
	So going back to the military thing.
	You were in the military.
	Were you, I'm assuming, enlisted?
	Yes.
	Okay, not officer.
	Okay.
	And then you came back from Christmas break.
	And then he was cheating on you.
	Yeah, it was like the story.
	It's more to the story.
	Like, I went to, you know, can you back up just real briefly?
	Because you said you went out for training and then came back.
	Were you guard or were you active duty?
	Active duty, but I was still in training, like boot camp and basic, I'm sorry, AIT.
	So when it's like the holidays, they send you home.
	They don't want us to stay there.
	So I told him.
	So they split it instead of sending you, did they send you to Jackson?
	I was in Jackson and then I was in Fort Lee.
	While I was at Fort Lee, they forced us to take vacation for Christmas break.
	And this was nearing your AIT.
	Yeah, Fort Lee.
	Oh, okay.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	So I was told I have to take this leave for winter break, whatever.
	And I told him I'm coming home.
	And then I wanted to surprise him.
	So I told him, hey, I messed up my paperwork.
	It's getting kicked back.
	So I'm not going to come home.
	But I was already at LAX.
	So then that's when I showed up to the apartments and he looked like he's seen a ghost.
	He just closed the door.
	Like there's two doors.
	There's a security door and a wooden door.
	So right when he opened the door and it's me, he just closed the wooden door.
	And I didn't think anything of it.
	I was just like, okay.
	And then it started to rain.
	I think I stayed outside for like five minutes and I like knock on the door like, hey, just let me in.
	If the house is a mess, it's fine.
	It's not a big deal.
	I know you weren't expecting me.
	And that's when he opened the door back up and I looked at him.
	Like it looked like someone just got out the shower.
	I'm not gonna lie.
	The bathroom like door just like just fresh out the shower pretty much the steam.
	And I noticed a bra hanging out of the door.
	I'm like, oh my goodness won't all my stuff is put away because I've been gone for months.
	And he's panting and like his hair is dry.
	The kids' hair was dry and I'm like, someone just got out the shower.
	So I started looking around the house.
	I'm like, I know there's not a bitch of a house.
	And he's like, no, you're tripping.
	And I walk into the room.
	My son was holding the Xbox remote control.
	And the TV's like right there, but he's looking at the closet door to the right.
	Like he's holding this control.
	He's like, this.
	Your son was there?
	My kids was home.
	No, so I was like, I know she's not here.
	And then he pushed me out the room.
	He closed the door and then, I mean, we live in the hood back then.
	So then he popped those window bars.
	I can hear it popped open.
	That's when I ran outside.
	I'm here like yanking her leg, like get out because I want to beat her ass.
	You didn't beat her ass?
	Wait.
	No.
	Her leg was hanging out the window door.
	Like the window, like trying to come out.
	Because she's trying to hop out the window and run off.
	And then it turned out.
	So you saw her.
	You saw.
	I saw her.
	I caught her.
	Yeah, I caught her.
	But I didn't caught them in the action, you know.
	But she was there.
	Yeah, she was there.
	That's enough.
	Damn.
	So what happened?
	So she went back inside through the window.
	And I'm here calling all my families like, get your ass hair down.
	Like, get here.
	I need y'all.
	But they didn't answer the phone because it was like the holidays.
	They're shopping for Christmas.
	I called 911 because we get briefed.
	I don't think so.
	I'm not going to lie.
	We get briefed before we leave anywhere to go on leave by our leadership.
	Like, hey, don't do anything stupid.
	Don't let the police call us because we don't want to deal with it.
	So they brief us before leaving.
	And then, yeah, I didn't want to.
	Well, I was going to do something stupid.
	And my cousin was like, the one that just dropped me off, she turned around and I'm here thinking, she's going to help me beat her ass.
	No, actually, she was stopping.
	She's like, no, you're not about to lose your job over this dumb girl.
	I'm not going to let you hit her.
	So she blocked me.
	And the whole time, just jabbing at my baby daddy, like, well, my ex-husband, I'm jabbing at his ribs to decide, like, hey, like, I want to get her.
	Like, it was some girl from high school that I always ask, like, is there something between you guys?
	And he said, no.
	He reassured me, like, oh, it's just a friend.
	I'm like, friends don't hit you up at three in the morning.
	And if I'm telling her and I'm answering her phone, I'm telling her we're having sex, why is she still calling your line?
	So that was like blowing my mind.
	Like, he keeps saying it's his friend.
	But yeah, I finally caught her like years later.
	It's just my friend.
	That's crazy.
	Like, the fuck, it's not.
	Wait, you said you were.
	How long has that been going on?
	Like, while we're together?
	Yeah, that you, well, I mean, obviously, you didn't know.
	Did it only start when you went off to Poland or before that?
	No, it was probably before that because I was pregnant at 16 and she was playing the phone line like throughout my junior, senior years.
	And he keeps saying we're just friends.
	We're just friends.
	And then on top of that, like my mom would tell me, like, hey, you know, I think he's cheating on you because people said that they've seen him with a girl at the grocery store.
	And like in Long Beach, it's especially like a certain ethnicity.
	Everybody knows everybody pretty much.
	And I thought my mom was just telling me that because she wants to break up.
	Like she was hating, you know?
	But it wasn't.
	She legit actually told me the truth and was looking out for me.
	So I was mad at myself for not believing her the first time she told me.
	And I took his side because that was my partner.
	Like, I don't know.
	You just want to be supportive of your partner if they're telling you they're not cheating.
	You're not doing things like that.
	Yeah, this is definitely an UNO reversal.
	So that's that usually usually happens the other way, right?
	So hold on, just to recap here.
	Okay, so you were in the military, enlisted.
	Yes.
	You're going through training.
	Yes.
	But you had all the kids.
	You had five kids at this point, right?
	No, I had two at the time.
	Wait.
	I was a teen mom.
	I only had two kids.
	Oh, you stayed with him?
	Yeah, we made up.
	But it didn't work out at the end.
	I was trying to.
	Caught him cheating.
	Two kids.
	Yeah.
	Then pumped out three more.
	Pretty much.
	But I was told I couldn't have any more kids.
	That's the crazy part.
	By the doctor.
	Yeah.
	After your second good.
	No, after my third one.
	Okay.
	I was told I couldn't have any more kids.
	Huh.
	Like complication from a past pregnancy.
	Okay.
	So I thought that was it.
	Like, I'm done having kids.
	So he was.
	You went off to the military?
	You had two kids.
	He was taking care of the kids.
	Supposedly.
	He was.
	Yeah.
	He was.
	I mean, to sign yourself a check, a month when I was already having direct deposit, rents paid, insurance paid, all the bills coming off, like draft out of my account.
	But to have my checkbook and sign yourself a three-month check every month, what are you doing with that money if the bills are repaid?
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	What do you can you clearly?
	Like, what is he doing with my money?
	So he, you guys had a joint.
	No, no, no.
	He had my checkbook.
	I left it at home for him too for emergencies.
	Well, you guys were married, right?
	Yeah, but it's still a separate account, though.
	Okay.
	Because I worked with myself.
	But he was using your money.
	Like, you were checking the statements.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And at the time, you were just in the military.
	Like, you weren't doing another gig or something?
	No, just military.
	Just military.
	Okay.
	Huh.
	Well, we hear this story all the time with men who go off to the military.
	They have a what, you know, they're either deployed or they're in training and their uh their wife back home is uh cheating.
	Uh, so it is interesting.
	You've got the, like Andrew said, the reverse Uno here.
	Um, you said, were you beating up on him, did you say?
	I mean, I was just hitting on his side like in the middle of the day.
	Like, yeah.
	Because he was blocking me, like, like in the permit.
	He was blocking him.
	Yeah, from beating her.
	Was it a white guy?
	No.
	What?
	Why you gotta be white?
	I don't know.
	I was just curious.
	No, he's black and Mexican.
	Okay.
	Because you said Long Beach, there's a certain demographic.
	I don't know what the hell is that.
	Yeah, so I'm just blocking around.
	Like, it's mostly Cambodians, to be exact.
	Are you Cambodian?
	Yes, I am.
	Part.
	Word?
	Okay.
	So part Cambodian.
	Yeah.
	Part Vietnamese?
	And Ty and Ty, yeah, okay.
	So, Long Beach is predominantly Cambodian, the Cambodian, okay.
	Yeah, so any store you go to, everybody knows everybody predominantly, everybody knew because they knew like tight-knit Cambodian, it was like, Oh, you know, I seen your son-in-law with another girl, this and that at the start.
	And I'm like, No, it ain't him, but he's the only black and Mexican guy, so it's kind of easy to pinpoint like that so-and-so husband.
	Hmm, okay.
	Um, so you guys split up in 2016, yes, okay.
	Uh, how old is your oldest kid?
	He's probably 18 next month, 18 next month because you were 16 when you had your first kid.
	Uh, do you guys have split custody, or what's the custody arrangement with your five kids?
	No arrangements, just go with the flow, okay?
	But I have my kids, so I take care of my kids.
	Um, he's not on child support or anything.
	I've always pay him child support, hell no, why?
	They live with me.
	Oh, okay, they live with you, okay.
	Like, to me, it's like if you are like struggling financially, whatever, I have no need or like no reason to beat you down anymore.
	Like, you're already struggling, so I'll take care of my kids.
	Like, I don't have a problem with that.
	Oh, he was financially struggling, in my opinion, okay, because I've been I've always been the one with the provider, you were the provider, yeah.
	I mean, he was living at your house apart or apartment.
	Wait, was it your house or you rented my apartment where you rent your rent?
	I rent, and then when I got into military, I bought my first home at 20 and then my second home at 22.
	Can fathers lactate?
	Can men lactate?
	They're doing it now.
	Like, how does was he can you milk a cat?
	A male cat?
	No, sorry, that's it.
	I don't think so.
	They use formula.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know how it works.
	Okay, that's cool.
	So, does he visit?
	Um, not really.
	I mean, that's between him and the kids, to be honest.
	Like, they have their cell phones, they're older now.
	So, if they want to see their dad or vice versa, they just communicate.
	Like, it has nothing to do with me.
	Like, I don't intervene or anything like what when's the last time you saw the kids?
	Him, yeah, um, I don't know, probably his birthday in July, probably.
	So, he sees them like once a year, maybe it's whatever you choose to do.
	Like, I don't ask questions.
	You guys have been split up for like eight eight plus years.
	They're so cordial, though.
	Like, sure, but like, how often does he see them?
	If you had to average it out over the past eight years, like once a year, twice a year, something like that.
	But before it's because we were living in Hawaii, so Hawaii?
	Oh, he's in Hawaii.
	He's here.
	No, he's here.
	Oh, he's here.
	I just moved back here recently.
	Have you guys linked up?
	No, absolutely not.
	If he was like, if he was like, listen, Diana, right?
	Yeah.
	If he was like, D, what was his nickname for you?
	For me?
	He always called me Diana.
	Did he call you Lil D?
	No.
	Did you call him Lil D?
	Not be offensive.
	If he was like, yo, let's make it work, would you do it?
	No, absolutely not.
	Because I look at him now, I'm like, ew, what did I see in you before?
	Like, I was young.
	I feel like you should have figured that out before you had five of his children, but you know, respect.
	Yeah, no, I wouldn't get back with him.
	Sorry.
	Miles?
	That was.
	Damien pressed that.
	Wait, okay.
	So five kids.
	But that was.
	You guys divorced back in 2016.
	What was the longest relationship you've had since the divorce?
	What, like, what?
	Like, four or six years.
	I don't know.
	I'm not calculating.
	Four or six years?
	Four or six years or something like that.
	Four to six years.
	Shoot.
	You forgot?
	This is the one that ended two and a half years ago, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Who broke up with who in the most recent relationship?
	I think we just both call it quits.
	It was like mutual?
	Yeah, because it's too toxic.
	Too toxic?
	Yeah.
	Tell me what you were doing that was toxic.
	What I was doing?
	Yeah, what were you doing?
	I don't know, it's like, it's domestic violence as well.
	Yeah.
	You were like beating him up and shit?
	No, it's both ways.
	Like, he hit me and I hit him.
	Who hit who first?
	Of course it's him, but he's drunk.
	There's a difference.
	Oh.
	He's intoxicated and he don't recall any of that.
	Men shouldn't be hitting women regardless.
	No, even if like you're like hitting him.
	I mean self-defense No, I'd say.
	Self-defense.
	Or why don't you just walk out of the room?
	So saying if a girl is hitting you, right?
	If a girl slap me in the face, walk out of the room.
	I mean.
	Why don't you just not hit men?
	Yeah, you could just not hit him.
	I understand that, but if it does come down to it, because you guys are men, you know what I mean?
	If a girl's like, we should walk here.
	Should we be doing that?
	Absolutely not.
	We should not be touching.
	Let me explain the fault in the logic here.
	No, there's not.
	There's no.
	Okay, well, I'll prove it to you.
	If a man who's much weaker than another man punches the man who's much stronger than him, can the much stronger man punch him back?
	But we're not talking about men nothing.
	Can you answer my question without pivoting?
	So men and men?
	Yeah, so if a much weaker man attacks a man who's much stronger than him, can the much stronger man go ahead and hit him back?
	Can he?
	Yeah, but does that make him a better man?
	No.
	No, but I mean, would you be okay if he did?
	No.
	No, so then basically what you're saying is that if you're stronger than somebody else and you get attacked, you just have to take it.
	That's the extension of that logic.
	Well, if somebody's really strong and they get attacked, they pick and choose their battles because you're not going to be messing with them too much.
	They're going to pick and choose.
	Well, I don't understand then.
	If that was the case, then what would you even be arguing?
	Because that would mean that.
	Well, you know, everybody is entitled to their own things.
	You could say what you're saying.
	I would just rather a man on my end, right?
	If he's strong like that, to not hit somebody who's so weak when he could just walk away because he's going to eat that.
	It'll be like nothing.
	It'll be a tap on his shoulder.
	So it shouldn't really be a concern.
	Now, with the women, no, no, with the women and men.
	All you're doing here is encouraging weak people to attack strong people.
	I'm not encouraging that.
	I'm saying it shouldn't happen.
	But I'm saying if not mine.
	Because if there's no consequence, if there's no consequence, then it's an encouragement.
	It's like saying, okay, now if you run over and you're a weaker guy than a stronger guy and you punch him, then it's socially unacceptable for the stronger guy to punch the other guy back.
	How does that not incentivize the weaker men to punch the stronger men?
	Well, that's why it's like three strikes, you're out.
	The first time, you know, we'll let it pass.
	The second time, the third time, forget about it.
	Okay, so by the third time a woman strikes you, it's okay to punch her?
	Or whatever.
	No, no, no.
	It's not okay for a woman to strike anybody.
	But if that situation happens and it's a man, he better walk out of the room.
	Hang on.
	I'm not asking about whether or not it's okay for a woman or for the woman to strike the man.
	It's not okay.
	It's not okay.
	We're arguing about whether or not it's okay for a man to strike a woman back.
	Absolutely not.
	So in this case, if you say a weaker man, if he attacks a stronger man two or three times, then it's okay for the stronger man to hit him back.
	Why would this not apply to women?
	I think everyone's not.
	What is it about having a vagina that specifically now makes it so that you can attack men and that men can't attack you back?
	I think where we're getting confused is that you're correlating them both together.
	It's a female and a male, okay?
	This isn't a male and male thing, right?
	So these are two separate topics, okay?
	A man and a man.
	Against the female and a female and a male is two completely different topics.
	Yeah, I don't see, they seem interrelated to me because all you're saying, the extension of both is the same.
	So I agree with you.
	Okay, hang on, Hamlin.
	I just let you explain your position.
	Let me explain mine.
	Okay, so I understand what you're saying.
	You're saying we're talking about men and men fighting here, not men and women, right?
	But what I'm doing is I'm giving you an analogy, and I'm saying, okay, but if it's okay in your worldview for weaker men who attack stronger men than them to be attacked back because now it's self-defense, what is the specific criteria that women have other than the fact that they have a vagina instead of a penis that exempts them from the same treatment?
	That's what I don't understand.
	Can you lift more weight than me?
	Yes.
	Well, probably, yeah, I would assume.
	Why?
	Because physiologically, I'm stronger than you.
	Why?
	Generally speaking, because I'm a male.
	There you go.
	I think.
	Yeah, but that doesn't make your point.
	That makes sense.
	No, it's okay.
	I think I made my point.
	We're good?
	I feel like.
	No, no, no.
	I feel like I'm okay.
	I feel like a woman is a good person.
	I don't think you understand what I just said.
	I didn't even know what she's hit.
	I don't think a woman.
	No, women should not hit men.
	They really should.
	No, I should not.
	If a woman hits a man, then the man can hit her back.
	Lady, let us finish the conversation.
	Calm down.
	So back to this combo here.
	Okay.
	You actually didn't make a point.
	You just said you're stronger than me because you're a man.
	Great.
	Do you agree with me that there's other.
	Okay, great, great.
	Do you think that there's other men who are not as strong as me who are also men?
	You know what?
	I think I made my point already.
	I'm good.
	Can I say something?
	I think I'm not good, and I need you to make this clear for me.
	Can I say something?
	Wait, let her answer.
	Can we finish our conversation for just calm down?
	Let us finish our conversation.
	Oh, no, we're calm.
	I'm having fun.
	Yeah, so, well, understand from my perspective, there's 15 people coming in, and I only have the one earpiece, so I have to try to delineate between who's talking.
	Got it.
	That's why I'm just asking for one at a time.
	So, wouldn't you agree with me, though, that by the same logic, there are still men who are also weaker than me?
	Right?
	I don't get what that has to do with the woman and men's issues.
	Yes, there's men that are weaker than you.
	That's fine.
	That's not something hard to understand.
	If they are and they attack me, if they are and they attack me, and it's okay for me to defend myself against them, then why exactly would it be not okay for me to defend myself against a female who had the same strength level as that man?
	guess that's something for you to try to think about because that's easy one for me okay I don't really, I don't, I don't even know where to go with that.
	Wait, did you did you get your did you get an answer or do you want to?
	Well, she just said that's for me to think about or something.
	She didn't really answer it.
	Well, you're saying that there's weaker men, there's weaker and stronger men, correct?
	So, if a weaker person was to hit you, and you're saying that you're stronger, correct?
	So, if this weaker person's hit, as hard as he could hit, might only be a touch to you, your hit is going to be way, way more drastic, correct?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, what else do you have to have me explain to you?
	Well, the extension of your logic is that essentially, if weaker people attack you, you're not allowed to defend yourself against them.
	I didn't say that they're not allowed.
	I said that there's other things that they could do.
	Yeah, but you know how you discourage weak people from attacking people who are stronger than them?
	They're weak, I'm stronger than them, so I really wouldn't be worried about that.
	Yeah, but you know how you discourage that from happening?
	I want to discourage the stronger people from attacking me, not the weak ones.
	I'm not worried about that.
	The stronger ones in this scenario are not attacking you.
	That's the weak ones that are attacking me.
	I would tell them first as a warning, stop, because it's not going to be fun the next time.
	The second time it happens, I'm probably not going for strike three.
	The second time it happens.
	So, wouldn't you draw the okay, that's fair.
	So, wouldn't you just draw the same extension with men and women?
	The first time a woman attacks a man, fine.
	The second time the woman attacks the man, he's not going to go for time number three.
	A man should never hit a woman unless you're hitting.
	I don't get that.
	That makes no sense to me.
	Walk out of the room.
	Which would you rather?
	Would it make you feel better to hit back a woman, or would it make you feel better to leave and not have anything else escalate?
	You can't.
	First of all, I don't know why you're under the impression that you can always just leave.
	That's true.
	You're right.
	Absolutely.
	You're absolutely correct.
	I believe.
	Yeah, you can't always leave in a confrontation like that.
	If a woman is attacking you and you can't leave, what is the problem with being your back?
	Like, I don't actually understand that.
	Or, as how old are you?
	How old are you?
	I'm 40.
	For a 40-year-old man to say, what is the problem with hitting her back?
	I think that's what this generation is lacking, no?
	Okay, well, for 30, how old are you?
	37?
	Or there's no, I'm 28.
	Or the one that I'm in now, because I'm dealing with 40-year-old men like this.
	This is why I'm not.
	Aren't you in your 30s?
	As a woman 32 years old, should I be hearing you, 40 years old, saying it's okay to hit you?
	Straight into the mic.
	It's okay to hit me just because I hate you.
	Should I eat that?
	If you wanted to be logically consistent, what you would say is I would never eat that.
	If a person attacks another person, they're asking to get hit.
	Now, a woman on woman, yeah.
	No, no, regardless, why suddenly is there some type of exemption that women get?
	Because they have a vagina.
	If they attack a person, because the person is stronger, that gives them exemption.
	Because everyone has free will.
	Free will.
	Free will.
	So if your free will wants you to hit her back, he's free to punch you back.
	If your free will wants to hit a woman back, that's on you.
	But with my free will, if I was a man who's 40 years old and my girlfriend hit me, right, 32, and I could walk away, I'm walking away.
	Because that's what a better man does.
	As a woman who is 32, I would be advocating that we didn't have a social system set up where strong people felt like they couldn't protect themselves because women were going to try to shoot them.
	Strong people know.
	Strong people know that they could protect themselves.
	Yeah, and you know how they do it?
	They usually punch people who attack them.
	That's how they do that.
	That's not a strong person.
	That's how they do that.
	That's not a strong person.
	It's a very weak one.
	Okay, well, I mean, I don't know how you would ever demonstrate that.
	It's okay.
	Restraint.
	Just allow people to attack others and somehow, because they're stronger than them, they're strong.
	They're not going to defend themselves.
	That's crazy.
	Hey, Andrew, I think it'd be interesting to just hear the other panelists' perspective on this.
	So, like, what do you guys think?
	Do you think I think it's okay for a man to hit back?
	Here, before we get to your question, what's your perspective on this?
	I know.
	My answer will be based on his answer.
	Because I have a question.
	I'll hold on to your question really quickly.
	Why do you need to know my position to know your position?
	Because I want to see, and then if you can argue this properly, then I will.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'll let this come through, then we'll get to it.
	Knight donated $200.
	Thank you, Knight.
	Appreciate it.
	Insufferable woman doesn't like a guy disagreeing with her.
	So if she hits him, and then he must leave the room right, she gets her way by hitting him.
	Men should be allowed to defend themselves.
	Yeah, it's just socially encouraging that if weak people want a thing, they can attack other people with basically no consequences.
	I think it's silly.
	Knight, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay, so your thoughts on this, then I'll let you ask the question, okay?
	I need to ask you.
	Okay, just ask the question then, but make it quick, please.
	Okay.
	So, since you're using men, men logic, women, men, whatever.
	So, if a 10-year-old child came up and slapped you in the face, would you punch the child back in the face?
	And your children don't have 10-year-old children, don't have complete agency.
	They know what they're doing.
	If he's stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Let them talk.
	Let me ask you.
	Trying to answer your question.
	The answer is no, because a person doesn't have complete agency.
	Just like I may advocate if somebody was like literally retarded, for instance, right?
	And they were attacking you unless they were super physically strong, you wouldn't have a choice in that instance, right?
	They don't have agency.
	They don't know what they're doing.
	So in that particular case, you have to draw into intent, right?
	Women who have agency, who physically attack you on purpose, right, are trying to do harm to you, damage to you.
	Same as if men do it.
	So when we draw up self-defense, no, wouldn't do it to a 10-year-old.
	But I can tell you this, right?
	I think that a good father might, I don't know, take the 10-year-old and give them a good spanking, right?
	Be like, don't do that shit again.
	That seems reasonable to me.
	A 10-year-old can feel emotions, feel they're angry and they're attacking you.
	They could come at you with a knife.
	They could almost kill you if they have a knife in their hand.
	So are you going to put it in?
	And if they do have an, if they had a weapon or they had something like that, you had to accelerate the use of force, sure.
	But that's a different argument.
	So you're still taking into account they don't have agency, but you have to balance that with self-protection.
	What age is the draw line for you?
	Like 23 and 32?
	18, the same age that I would give any woman agency.
	So 18, 17 and 364 days, you'd be like, nah.
	I'd fuck them up.
	You'd be like, nah, 17, 364 days.
	Let me wait a minute.
	Here's the thing.
	You're doing some hair splitting, right?
	But I'll do the hair splitting with you.
	Okay, so what you're doing is you're making what's called a continuum fallacy.
	So what you're saying is, when does this person have agency, Andrew?
	I don't know.
	It'd be case by case, right?
	But we've decided unilaterally that it's going to be 18 in this nation because most people at 18 seem to have some sort of agency.
	They seem to be able to make informed decisions for themselves.
	So we make it 18 years old.
	Now, if you're saying, well, what about would this person deserve it at like 17 and 361 days?
	Yeah, possibly, though you might be judging the law different.
	I may not make a moral judgment against you, though.
	If a 17-year-old who is 17 and 300 days attacks somebody else and got their asses kicked for doing it, I don't think I would hold it against them morally.
	I just think that you would have a lawful violation at that point.
	Okay, but 18 is the age of consent for, let's say, sex.
	21 is for drinking, 25 is for renting a car.
	The cerebral cortex isn't fully developed until 25.
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	First of all, first of all.
	So how come 18 is your drama?
	It's not the cerebral cortex.
	You're talking about the prefrontal lobe.
	Okay, whatever.
	It's not.
	It's not terminology.
	Okay, it's not developed until 25.
	So it is developed before it's 25.
	Of course it is.
	Fully developed.
	Also, yeah, also, just so you know, the prefrontal cortex begins to degrade after 25.
	So a 25-year-old would be it.
	If they were at like peak observational intelligence, and at 30, they should have less.
	So the 25-year-old attacking the 30-year-old would actually put 30-year-old disadvantage, right?
	Okay, so now that you brought that up, since you put the limit at 18, how about if a 90-year-old's hitting you?
	They know what they're doing.
	Their cortex is all developed or frontal lobe or whatever you have.
	How old?
	90.
	Oh, 90.
	Where do you draw the line up there?
	Because it's like, obviously, you realize if this person is weak, this person is weaker than me.
	Yeah, I think it's my moral.
	So here, I'm going to give you my moral judgment on this.
	If a 70-year-old man walks over and hits a guy with his cane, he gets knocked the fuck out.
	That's what you get.
	Don't go over and hit people with your fucking cane.
	Like, what do you want me to say?
	If a 90-year-old did not have a weapon?
	I want you to think about the flip side to this, right?
	So if a 70-year-old, let's say that a 70-year-old was attacking a 15-year-old, who do we side with then?
	That's up to you because I would go with you.
	Whoever's stronger, whoever's stronger should walk them don't have agency.
	Why are you talking so loud?
	Calm down a little bit.
	According to you, right?
	Now both of them don't have agency.
	So now it's a 14-year-old, let's say, and a 75-year-old.
	No.
	I never said they didn't.
	It's not pop.
	Stop.
	Let me ask the question.
	You got to let him.
	You can't interrupt.
	No, but he keeps interrupting me.
	Yeah, but you got to let him deciding that.
	Why do I got to let him talk if he interrupts you?
	Because you're asking him questions.
	You're asking him.
	Here, look, you're asking him questions.
	I didn't finish him asking that question.
	Now you're interrupting me.
	Look, if you ask him a question, you got to let him answer.
	Go ahead.
	I didn't finish asking him the question, though.
	Yes, you did.
	Okay, fine.
	I'll tell you what.
	Here's what we'll do.
	You go ahead and finish asking the question, and then I'll go ahead and talk.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you.
	That's all I want to talk like adults, but I don't know if your cortex or frontal lobe is.
	Just ask the question.
	Ask the question.
	Okay.
	So a 90-year-old does not have a cane.
	He does not have a cane.
	He is a grown adult, definitely way past you.
	So he comes up to you and slaps you in the face.
	You're going to punch the 90-year-old grandma in the face back.
	If I was able to determine somehow that they had full agency, but this goes back to my internal critique to you, right?
	So I can demonstrate this.
	If a 90-year-old is attacking a 14-year-old, who do you intercede for?
	I'm going to go with whoever's stronger should walk away.
	They're about the same strength, let's say.
	Yeah, okay.
	Then they're just going to not do anything to each other because, well, a 14-year-old is way stronger than a 90-year-old.
	They're going to say something to each other.
	A 14-year-old is going to be way physically faster, stronger, more alert than a 90-year-old.
	So then you're going to intercede on behalf of the 90-year-old?
	You better raise your kids not to hit a 90-year-old person.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	The question is: if the 90-year-old's attacking him.
	Yeah.
	The 90-year-old is attacking the 14-year-old kid?
	Yeah.
	The 14-year-old kid is probably stronger than the 90-year-old.
	He should walk away.
	Girl, you don't believe there's consequences to your actions?
	So essentially what you're saying here is like if this 90-year-old has – I'm saying if a 90-year-old punched me, I'm punching them back is what I'm saying.
	So I just want to make sure I got this right.
	If the 90-year-old has fully backed up.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Go ahead.
	Almost done with the exchange.
	Hang on.
	So what you're saying is that if the 90-year-old has full agency and the 14-year-old has full agency and it's known that they have full agency, they're both neither one of them, right?
	I mean, actually, in this case, I guess the 90-year-old would have full agency and the 14-year-old wouldn't, right?
	Because he's 14.
	You would still say that the person with less agency then should walk away.
	The one who brought up agency was you.
	I brought up strength.
	Who's stronger?
	You said they're equal strength.
	If it's equal strength, then it's a fair fight.
	Well, then let's test this logic back the other direction then.
	So are you saying that if a man who is weaker than another man hits a stronger man, the stronger man should just take it?
	If the stronger man could off the younger man or weaker man by hurting him, I think he should walk away.
	Like that's just the strong thing.
	Yeah, but anytime two men fight, that could be the outcome.
	What do you mean?
	Anytime, any, you know, like a man who, let's say, is, I don't know, a quarter less stronger than me, who comes over and punches me in the face could still kill me.
	Like that could still kill me.
	Yeah.
	Even though they're weaker than I am.
	But you're saying for some reason I'm not allowed at that point to defend myself or somehow that's a lesser man.
	I don't get that.
	Okay, here's what I'm going to say.
	If the strength is equal, fine, do whatever you want.
	If it's obviously, if it's similar, fine, do whatever you want.
	Well, what does similar mean?
	If it's a woman who can lift 200 pounds and a man that can lift 200 pounds and they both do boxing, sure.
	Wrestle it out.
	Who cares?
	I realize that women can throw heavy objects at a man's head.
	They can grab dirks and daggers and pistols and all sorts of different things.
	They're not limited only to physical strength, but even then, that if a woman perhaps she's wearing rings, but even then, if she's not, that just a woman bawling her fist and punching you in the face hurts, that that actually hurts, it's not pleasant.
	Like, why is it?
	Why is the expectation here that because it happens to be a woman bawling their fist and punching you in the face, that that somehow makes it not okay for the man to go, oh, okay, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
	I don't get that.
	Okay, well, I hold on.
	No, he finished.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I need to let the rest of the panel in on this.
	Go ahead.
	I feel like it's okay for a man to hit back if the woman hits first.
	Okay.
	So that's why I'm asking her and the other girl.
	The other girl.
	I think it's like using your common sense.
	So if a girl hits a guy, like he could, he should be able to defend himself.
	I wouldn't necessarily say like punch her, but you know, defend yourself just to stop the fight.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I agree that this question is really black and white.
	And in case the man really needs to defend himself, if it's some critical situation, of course he can hit back.
	Yeah.
	We have a chat coming in.
	Mandy Vauer donated $200.
	What in the Amber herd is this Biach talking about?
	No arguments.
	Just wants to be difficult.
	Makes me want to shit in my hands and clap.
	Well, I'm going to say, I want to say the opposite.
	She was the only one tonight so far who made an argument to me.
	And for that, I thank you.
	Do you have a response really quick to the TTS?
	No.
	Okay.
	Your thoughts on this?
	For one, you should keep your hands to yourself.
	For two, you should defend yourself always.
	And three, if a man and a woman get into it and the woman decides to put her hands on a man in an aggressive fashion, the man has a right to defend himself.
	Sure.
	And if he could walk away, and that's an option to walk away.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What about you?
	Or did you?
	You kind of gave your take, right?
	Or was that the girl next to you?
	I was going to explain.
	Okay, what's your take then?
	I agree with her.
	If you already anticipated to put your hands on someone, be ready to get the consequences, pretty much.
	Okay.
	If I were to slap a man, I would expect that he would slap me back.
	And I guess I'll give my take on this.
	And I actually ended up a quick convo with you here on this.
	So I think a man is perfectly within his rights if a woman has struck him.
	He's within his rights to strike her back.
	Although, pragmatically speaking, and well, just before I get to the pragmatic part, I don't think a woman should be surprised if she gets hit back.
	If you don't want to get hit, don't hit somebody.
	Very simple.
	But I think pragmatically speaking, Andrew, I think there's actually men should try to show restraint in this situation simply because there are certain ramifications and realities when it comes to the justice system.
	Where even if you have pretext and justification to strike somebody, there's potential criminal liability, there's potential civil liability, there's also optics.
	You know, even say you're a famous person and you're well within your rights to smack a woman back.
	Optically, society is not, there's enough people in society that they're going to view even self-defense towards a woman in some sort of objectionable way.
	But when it comes to the criminal component, there is a risk for men, even if you're doing self-defense.
	I forgot there's a specific term for this, but when police come and if there's a domestic dispute, it doesn't matter who started it, they're just going to arrest the man.
	So for this reason, I think men should attempt to show restraint and try to walk away if they can, even if it's perfectly justifiable to strike back.
	Your thoughts on that, Andrew?
	Yeah, so if you're just saying to me, Andrew, according to the current criminal justice system, it's not a good idea for a man to equalize force or use an overage of force to that which is used against him.
	I'll agree, right?
	Sure, under the criminal justice system, that's likely true.
	But that really doesn't get to the heart of the morality or the righteousness or the rightness of the argument.
	Sure.
	So the question here is, are you incentivizing people to attack other people without consequence by giving them a kind of social leg up?
	In other words, saying, okay, because this is not socially acceptable, these people can essentially attack you with impunity.
	And I think that that's how you get this lopsided justice system to begin with, which then favors one sex over the other because of this idea of chivalry and modernity, which I don't really understand why it's there now.
	If you want an egalitarian society, chivalry and law is silly.
	That's not egalitarianism.
	That's just creating a privileged class who can attack another class with impunity.
	And that seems very silly to me.
	Well, I mean, this would require like a chivalry's dead because the conversation's like these, no?
	Chivalry?
	What do you mean by chivalry?
	A man could kill me so much faster than I could kill him.
	So I understand what you're saying.
	It is not acceptable for anybody to be touching each other.
	I'm not.
	What was that one sentence that you just said?
	That I'm allowing them, I'm allowing myself to hit them.
	And so they hit them.
	Yeah, you're giving yourself a social privilege.
	I'm not giving myself a social privilege because I just said that it's not okay for anyone to be hitting each other, to be hitting each other.
	But in the instance, they are.
	In the instance that they're hitting each other, can a man kill, can you kill me faster than I could kill you?
	Yeah, but I could do that with a weaker man.
	But now our situation goes back to man or woman, not weaker men or stronger men.
	No, Can a man kill a woman easier than a woman could kill a man?
	Generally, yes.
	Okay.
	I feel better.
	But just so you, hang on, hang on.
	I need you to understand, though, that that's not a really good argument, and I'm going to tell you why it's not a good argument.
	It's okay if you don't think so, but I'm pretty sure I have other people that would agree with me.
	Okay, but that's an argument ad populum.
	It doesn't matter if the whole world agreed with you.
	It wouldn't make it a good argument.
	I'm going to tell you why.
	It doesn't make it a good argument because all I would have to say back to you is, okay, right, but there's other men who are weaker than me, my same age bracket, this and that.
	Wow.
	And they can still hurt me or kill me, even though they are weaker than myself, right?
	And nobody would say that I shouldn't be able to deter with an overage of defense, meaning if somebody attacks me, they punch me across the face.
	You're putting it all together.
	You can't differentiate.
	Hold on, hold on.
	You got to let them finish.
	Yeah, and I respond by hitting them so hard I break their jaw.
	I haven't done anything wrong.
	That's completely socially acceptable.
	People are like, well, you shouldn't have hit that guy in the face.
	You would have got your job broke, right?
	But for some odd reason, you seem to think that simply because it's a woman doing it instead of a weaker man, that somehow they have some additional privilege to that because generally, because generally women are weaker than men.
	I never said that.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	I never said that.
	I never said that we're privileged to hit men.
	I said it shouldn't be done in the first place.
	But if it was to happen, you keep on bringing it together, and I don't know why you have to differentiate male and female.
	It's not about weaker men or men.
	It's not about that.
	It's about a male and like a female.
	Yeah, I'm showing, well, I'm trying to show you an entailment.
	I'm trying to show you something.
	Like, for instance, here, let's do it a different way so I can show it to you this way.
	If a woman who is in your age bracket was 30% weaker than you are and she punched you in the face, would you punch her back?
	If she hurt me enough for me to get pissed off about it, because she's a woman and my age, yeah, she's getting punched back in the face.
	Okay, well, then do you tell me what the distinction is?
	What did you think?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	If a man, who you're associated with in some way, if you're 30% weaker than him and you punch him in the face, why is it now unacceptable to punch you?
	That's what I'm saying.
	If I'm punching a man in the face, if a man punches me in the face, my jaw is broken.
	If I punch a man in the face, it probably will be like a slap, maybe?
	You could break somebody's nose.
	Oh, yeah, but if the woman is 30% weaker than you, the same result could happen.
	That's the point.
	No.
	Men and women.
	Yes, it could.
	Men and men and women are women to women.
	I could fight a girl.
	Now she's on my playing field.
	I can't fight a man.
	Yeah, I know, I know, but.
	That's it.
	Yeah, you know that.
	I don't understand why you're not getting this.
	Like, I'm trying to make it really super over the top easy here.
	Yes, I agree with you in general that women are going to get the short end of the stick on average if they're fist fighting with men.
	It seems very silly.
	Obviously, for the most part, men are going to win those engagements.
	But if you say, then it's because of that, that it's somehow not okay for men to hit women back.
	Men could do better.
	But I don't know why you wouldn't.
	Hang on, I'm almost done.
	Then you can respond.
	I don't know why you wouldn't apply the same logic to if a weak woman attacked you.
	It's the same logic.
	No, it's not.
	Why?
	How is it?
	A weak woman compared to whatever you just said is not the same.
	Or you know what?
	You're right.
	People could think like you, but you would be on the weaker side of a man because a real man wouldn't be saying what you're saying.
	They wouldn't be saying that.
	It's okay to hit a girl when you know that you would break my jaw.
	It's not okay.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why either.
	It's pretty simple to me.
	Well, why do you get to punch somebody weaker than you, but I'm not allowed to punch somebody weaker than me?
	Wow.
	Well, you know what?
	You're a man.
	I'm not a man.
	I don't know.
	have different things going on so it's okay for so you say it's not a social privilege but you're allowed to punch someone weaker than you I'm just not allowed to hunger.
	Who am I punching weaker than me?
	Who am I punching someone?
	It sounds like a social privilege.
	Who am I punching weaker than me?
	The weaker woman.
	But we're still a woman.
	We're still in the same category.
	So?
	Okay, until you guys differentiate male and female, we can't hit you.
	Okay, let's try it one more way.
	Just one more way.
	Very simple.
	Yeah, this is really simple.
	50%, if a man was 50% weaker than you, a man.
	I'm not fighting a man.
	And he attacked you.
	Not fighting a man.
	As hard as he could in the face, would you punch him back?
	This is different because even if I was to punch him back with a man.
	Because a girl is physiologically weaker than a male.
	We went over this, right?
	He's weaker, right?
	He's weaker.
	Yeah, so okay, listen to my question.
	Is he my age?
	Just listen to me.
	Let's think about how you're going to respond.
	Just listen to the actual question.
	A man, let's assume a man is 50% weaker than you, same age, he's in your same social group.
	He's just 50% weaker than you.
	And he physically attacks you and he punches you as hard as he can and he's continuing to hit you.
	Would you hit him back?
	As a nurse, if a man is my age and I'm 50% stronger than that man, it's probably because he's critically ill.
	Okay, or something like that.
	He's sick, he's sick.
	We have to go through things like this because you want to talk about hypotheticals, right?
	If a guy my age is 50% weaker than me, it's because he's sick.
	So if a sick patient comes to me and tries to hit me, my answer is no, I won't hit back.
	If he's 20% weaker.
	So as a woman, if I could say that, and as a man, you can't say that.
	I don't know what that is.
	So, what if he's 20% weaker than you?
	Sorry, it's okay.
	Sorry, I don't know.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, but what if he's 20% weaker?
	Can you just answer that real quick?
	Real quick, what if he's 20% weaker?
	20% weaker.
	Which would be what?
	What is that to you?
	20% weaker than me as a male?
	I don't know.
	Like, let's say that you can lift a fucking 40-pound box.
	I'm trying to tell you.
	I'm going to tell you.
	Let's say you can lift a 40-pound box and he can only lift like a 30-pound box.
	Equivalent.
	That's not.
	He's hitting you.
	I don't know what point you're trying to make.
	I think I made mine.
	But you can see that.
	Okay, so a year ago, I hit my man.
	I broke his, I made his nose bleed.
	Did he hit you?
	He hit me back and gave me a concussion.
	Do you feel like who's in the wrong?
	Do you feel like he should have hit me?
	I'm so sorry.
	Wait, you broke his nose?
	I'm so sorry that you went through that.
	I'm so sorry that you went through that.
	It's not okay for you.
	It's okay.
	But I'm saying it's okay for him to hit me back.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That's okay.
	I don't know what you said.
	Wait, you're sorry.
	I'm just saying, like, you're sorry about that whole situation.
	Domestic violence is a really big thing.
	Domestic violence is something to play with.
	Who's the victim?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Like, the guy.
	What did you do?
	What did you, what did you hit?
	What did you say?
	What did you do?
	And I went to the point.
	Why did you hit him first?
	Because that sounds like victim blaming.
	He was playing for me.
	That's just victim blaming.
	It's not okay for her to be hitting somebody.
	It's not okay for her to hit somebody.
	I'm not saying that either.
	So I'm saying, like, who's in the wrong?
	Were you hospitalized with the concussion?
	That's not the point.
	She can't hop.
	Did this actually happen?
	No, this actually happened.
	Yeah.
	She made his nose bleed.
	No, She broke his nose.
	Not just a nosebleed.
	She broke his nose.
	No, she said broke.
	I broke his nose and then he hit me back because, you know, so like just was it justified?
	No, absolutely not.
	Not justified.
	No, no, no.
	For him to hit me back.
	For him to hit me back.
	For him to hit you back, was that justified?
	A man should never hit back.
	This is why it's like 20 times.
	They're going to give you a concussion.
	You guys want to end up in jail?
	Because whatever you guys are laughing about right now, ha ha ha ha, how you're acting, you're going to end up in jail, right?
	The first person who comes to you domestic violence-wise.
	Well, check out the music.
	What I'm going to show you has been the defensive in my situation.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	Wait, okay.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Did the police come?
	No, I didn't call the police.
	Okay, so you guys.
	It was just, it was just like between us.
	So he punched you in the face?
	No, I punched him in the face first.
	And then he hit me in the back of my head and I got a concussion.
	So I'm sorry.
	And he just struck you once.
	Yeah.
	And then you guys left?
	21.
	You're 21.
	What did you guys kick it after while you were all concussed and his nose was bleeding?
	Because, well, think about this.
	Bonding experience.
	This is the perfect example of the social privilege that I'm talking about that you're claiming you don't advocate for.
	She's my social privilege is going to be honest.
	Hey, stop, Hey, stop, stop.
	Let him talk.
	I haven't even stated the position yet.
	But this is a perfect example of the social privilege.
	You're actually stating if she went over and broke this guy's nose, that he should just have to walk away with a broken nose.
	Like, that's your actual position.
	He could have called the cops on her.
	And you're like, but that's not privilege, Andrew.
	He could have called the cops on her and instead of her getting concussed, she could have been locked up.
	Yeah, what are the cops going to do if she doesn't want to go to jail?
	That's the better scenario for everybody.
	What did you do?
	She doesn't want to go to jail.
	If she doesn't want to go to jail, what are the cops going to do?
	Yeah.
	I'm in the Twilight Zone.
	Yeah, wait.
	No, answer my question.
	What are the cops going to do?
	Whatever.
	Wait, I actually want to go to the picture.
	They're going to hurt her.
	I have a question for you.
	Let's rewind here really quick.
	Yeah.
	So in this scenario, had he not struck you back and you had just clocked him, broken nose, whatever, and he called the cops, would you have lied to the cops about the nature of the dispute?
	100%.
	So, would you have said, like, oh, he hit me first or something like that?
	Would you have lied to the police?
	I honestly wouldn't have called the police.
	No, he could.
	Oh, if he called the police, he would have to do it.
	So, he doesn't hit you back.
	He's got their broken nose.
	He calls the police.
	He does what she thinks.
	That's the responsible thing to do.
	Yeah, sure.
	So, would you have lied to the police, though?
	That's a hard question.
	She's 21, this girl.
	How things should be going down?
	If you hit somebody, the man, a man should lead, right?
	A man should lead.
	A man who's broken.
	Bro, you can't lead somebody who's breaking your phone.
	You could lead yourself to the phone.
	You could lead yourself to the phone call 911 and get her locked up.
	What?
	You can also lead your fist to her mouth, and then she never minds.
	And that leads you in jail.
	That's not funny for you to be laughing about it.
	I could also put my foot in her.
	What?
	It's crazy that we're having conversations with you.
	That's actually crazy, though.
	On the media, if a guy does exactly what you said, even if a guy does exactly what you said.
	They should be doing what you're saying.
	Can you be quiet, please?
	Even if a guy does exactly what you said, the woman can just lie and be like, oh, he hit me.
	Yeah.
	I actually have something to say about that.
	Even if he doesn't hit her at all, and he could still get arrested, too.
	He could still get arrested in the scenario.
	That's okay.
	Well, I mean, this happens all the time.
	Right.
	So you, what were you saying?
	Where the man's the victim.
	You spoke on that earlier, and I actually had a comment.
	What you got?
	There is a stigma behind domestic violence where you say the majority of the men get arrested and sometimes they're not the cause of the domestic dispute.
	That's called the Duluth model.
	Duluth model.
	Right, but I didn't want to deter people in this scenario, like men, from calling the police because sometimes you have police that do their due diligence to find out who is the aggressor.
	Yeah, I feel like a man is calling the police.
	But you don't know how that's going to go.
	I actually do because I have a really close friend that actually dealt with domestic abuse.
	And just like police, they go on the scene, they speak to both parties to figure out who the aggressor is.
	They'll check your hands to see if you've hit something.
	They'll check your body to see if you have bruises.
	And then, you know, obviously my friend had bruises on her arms.
	And that kind of showed, you know, him even holding a woman.
	It's not a guarantee that the guy's going to get arrested.
	It's not.
	It is a risk that men have to think about.
	For sure.
	That women don't.
	For sure.
	But if she were to hit, you know, how she did her boyfriend and his nose broke and he called the police immediately, if once they pulled up on the scene and seen that his nose is broken and she's looking gorgeous as ever, they're going to see that she was the aggressor and the law is going to take and do what they're supposed to do.
	So this is what you're talking about is based on the state you're in too.
	So some states are, if there's a DV call, someone's going to jail no matter what.
	They actually have additional laws which say if we show up for a DV call, someone's going to jail regardless, right?
	It doesn't even matter.
	Someone's going right to jail.
	So the biggest problem with the current DV laws, how they stand, is like things like assault and battery and things like that, they're already illegal.
	You don't actually have to create additional DV laws for these things because they're already crimes.
	So what happened with the additional DV laws is they said, well, women need additional protections from big, strong men, right?
	That's the idea here.
	But what has happened as a side effect of that is then police show up and the man ends up going to jail, even if he didn't do the DV.
	And we know this because in the states where they don't have this Duluth model, they take women to jail for DV more than they do men.
	And so the additional DV laws are actually kind of unjust in this way.
	It's called a restraining order.
	Anyone, especially under like, the age of 25, getting domestic violence and stuff like that restraining order, just one sec.
	I do have two chats coming through.
	Woman in chair six makes no sense whatsoever.
	She's the queen of double standards in this panel, Andrew.
	How do you argue and debate without losing your shit?
	And then well, I think I, I like having, I like having these.
	Uh, I just can't well to answer, to answer to the chatter.
	I like having these conversations with people.
	I understand that uh, sometimes I say things that seem uh, wildly offensive, but I don't really think they are.
	I think i'm just kind of logically deducing what a person thinks and why they think it and telling them why I think it.
	Other people get offended quite often, but they really shouldn't like chair one, chair one was making good arguments.
	Chair one was like, well, wait a second Andrew, let's test your logic on this.
	What happens in a scenario where blah blah, blah happens?
	I'm like that's a good argument to engage with.
	Now we can get to the bottom of each other's worldview.
	Uh, so you don't like you don't have to shut down during the argument and just be like, well, I never clutch your pearls and go.
	How could you say so it's like we're just trying to figure out what is and isn't true and if, if we're, if we're discussing these uh topics, I think that that's fine to do.
	We have, uh three more chats coming through.
	We have a TTS here from Foreign Gaming.
	Foreign Gaming, 718 donated 200.
	Thank you is not age your strength.
	Just keep your damn hands to yourself.
	Why would the weaker person just get away with it?
	A 16 year old has a gun.
	Can he shoot Brian and Brian not shoot back because he's stronger?
	Right, of course well, of course, of course, not.
	Well, this would be again.
	This comes back to the idea of having to.
	So when me and chair one were arguing back and forth, I was making this argument back, right, so you'd have to graduate the level, even compared to agency.
	So, like you know if um, this would be the same thing with an orangutan.
	Let's say, an orangutan picked up an ak-47.
	It doesn't know what it's doing, it doesn't have agency, but you, it'll instantly create a justification for you to take down the orangutan because uh, it could, it could shoot you with this ak-47, and it's like you don't want to.
	It doesn't have agency, it doesn't know what it's doing, it doesn't mean to.
	That really doesn't mean anything.
	Ultimately though, because it still is holding an ak-47, right?
	We have two more chats here.
	We have Jeff Bader Andrew.
	Never once in his, in this entire exchange, did he explicitly say that a man should.
	No never, did not, even once.
	All right, just testing, just i'm just testing the logic of why it would not be appropriate to do so if somebody was um, who's just, if the argument is just.
	Well, they're weaker, so they should, you know, they should just be allowed to hit you.
	That seems like it's creating a social order in society where some people have privilege over other people.
	We have Lucas here.
	Hey Lucas, good to see in the chat man.
	Holy shit, this woman is the apogee of female narcissism and entitlement and noticed she used the classic feminist trope, a real man.
	You have no credibility to define a real man.
	I do have credibility to find for a real man my dad's one.
	What do you mean?
	I've had great examples of real men and the real man around me.
	Wouldn't it be saying things the way that you say that?
	So, you're saying Andrew's not a real man?
	Are you saying, hypothetically speak?
	What's your definition of a real man?
	A real man, I'm not talking about a robot.
	I'm talking about morality.
	You're the one who said real man.
	Somebody being real.
	Somebody being real.
	I'm from New York.
	Real, we say, we say, yeah, you're very real.
	Somebody be back, be keeping it real.
	Yeah, I'm keeping it real right now.
	Exactly.
	I'm keeping it real.
	A real man keeps it real.
	Yeah, slapping somebody back.
	She slaps you, you slap her back.
	Sure.
	Keeping it real.
	I can't tell you.
	Yeah, keeping it real is like it's a morality thing.
	Whatever you guys are saying, ain't it?
	Keeping it real goes wrong.
	That's not it.
	Well, like, like, for instance, I agree with you that there has to be some nuance here.
	Let me give you some examples.
	It's not okay for anyone to hit anybody.
	I know you didn't say that, and I didn't say that.
	That wasn't my point.
	Go ahead, Angel.
	Okay, well, I can give you some examples of where I think, yeah, that, of course, men grant nuances for this all the time for this social privilege.
	And probably we should.
	So here's a good example of this.
	My wife has had a terrible dream before, like just a horrible dream, and woke up kind of disoriented, right, and upset and has struck me.
	It has happened, right?
	Now, it's like a strike to the arm, and I kind of laugh about it.
	I kind of giggle about it, right?
	Because it's just silly.
	And, you know, she'd had some kind of like a bad dream that I was out cheating on her or something like that, because women have insane dreams like that all the time.
	That's how it works.
	So the thing is, it's like, am I just going to be like, oh, I just turn around and just whoop the shit?
	No, of course not.
	Of course not.
	That would be silly, right?
	But there's a difference there in intent.
	There's a difference there in intent.
	And if you're talking about intent, you're talking about intent to hurt.
	If a woman balls her fist and is punching you in the face hard as she can, there's an intent there to hurt you.
	And for some reason, I don't want to create a social class where they have impunity from that on the spot, where the stronger person, because they're victims and are stronger, just have to be victims.
	That's insane to me.
	Makes no sense.
	All right.
	Well, we'll move it on from there.
	That was a good little conversation on beating up women.
	So that was good.
	That's good.
	I love talking about that.
	Just kidding.
	So, okay.
	All right.
	Let's, you know what?
	We have the great, the powerful stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their own looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Starting with you, Brie, go ahead.
	Physical looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Physical.
	Like some days I'm like an 8, some days I'm a 6, some days I'm a 9.
	What do you right now?
	Right now, like an eight and a half.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	That's right, girl.
	A 10.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Like a nine.
	There's always room for improvement.
	Yeah.
	What would you improve?
	I don't know, but there's always room.
	Okay, sure.
	What about you?
	Nine.
	Nine?
	I'd say 7.5.
	7.5?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It depends on the day on the outside, but on the inside, it's an 11 for me.
	Sorry.
	So you said it depends on the day.
	What is that?
	On the outside?
	Today?
	Let's see.
	I think I'm going to give myself like solid 7.8, 9, 8, 7.88.
	I'll just put 8.
	Okay.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Right now, like a six.
	All right.
	I'll give myself a five, Andrew.
	What about you?
	Oh, I mean, with so many tens, how can I not put myself in the same category?
	Of course I'm a 10.
	Well, we only have one ten.
	We only have one ten.
	Nine, nine.
	Okay, well, who rated themselves less than a six?
	Just me.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then I'm a 10.
	Andrew's a 10.
	W. W, Andrew.
	I'm just curious, what do you rate me, you?
	You?
	Yeah, what do you rate me?
	Like you said, like, right now?
	Yeah.
	I give you a six and 2021, you probably like a nine.
	2021.
	Yeah.
	Can you pull up my Instagram?
	We'll scroll down.
	We'll see like old pictures.
	What did you give yourself?
	7.5?
	7.5.
	7.5.
	And you listed the scale before.
	Could you do that again?
	Like the scale?
	Like one.
	Oh, yeah, I can do it.
	Pull it up.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Look at those eyes.
	Those eyes.
	This is young, Brian.
	What happened?
	Damn, I was trim.
	Now I'm fat.
	Scroll up.
	Scroll up.
	What happened?
	Stress.
	Stress eating.
	Scroll up.
	Scroll up.
	Rip.
	RIP is in the chat and then wait so so you would be settling for me That's it.
	There's a period at the end of that.
	I don't know.
	Settling?
	Yeah, because you're 7.5 and you say I'm a 6.
	You're above average.
	No, but you would be settling for me.
	That's not the question.
	You would be doing me a favor.
	I wouldn't say it's a favor kind of thing when it comes to dating someone that could eventually be less attractive.
	I wouldn't be saying it's a favor.
	Because you could be a six in my eyes, and then naked, you're a nine.
	Naked.
	You said physically.
	So if you have extra inches, that makes you more attractive.
	So it could change.
	I'm just saying.
	It could.
	What do you mean?
	When you say extra inches, what do you mean?
	You know, you know what I mean.
	I don't.
	No, I don't.
	That, you know.
	What do you mean?
	That thing.
	I still don't know what you mean.
	You're peen.
	No, I know, but like, yes, I know what you're talking.
	But like, when you say, like, how big are we talking here?
	Above average.
	I would say about.
	What's above average?
	I would say seven is above average.
	Okay, seven.
	So if you're like a 10 or nine.
	Why are all the girls like shaking their head?
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, yeah, 10 or 9.
	I imagine.
	That's too much.
	I don't think it's about time.
	No, no, no.
	Like, attractive.
	If I saw a guy's.
	If I was rocking like a five and a half incher, like, is that going to do anything for you?
	Oh, it'll keep you right where you are, six.
	no change no like if if i if i were to meet a guy you know at the gym wearing a a t-shirt and then oh that's what he's wearing Yeah, for example, a t-shirt.
	A t-shirt.
	We kick it off and then we go swimming.
	And he takes his shirt off and it's like abs chiseled and you know that cut.
	Yeah, the cut.
	And he becomes more attractive because of his physique.
	Yeah.
	So same with the peen.
	So wait, you want, wait, but you want, is that the type of guy, that's the, that's the, That's the type of guy you want is like six-pack, shredded?
	I don't really care too much for that.
	Okay.
	So.
	Because they're shredded guys who are assholes.
	That's okay.
	Oh, right.
	So 10?
	What would you rate me?
	What would I rate you?
	Do you want me to rate you?
	She breaks noses.
	So don't play.
	What do I rate you?
	I don't know.
	Here, can you take your makeup off?
	See, I knew he was going to ask me to do that.
	If you take your, I can't, you got to take the lashes off, too.
	The lashes don't.
	You take the make, they don't?
	No.
	They're glued on.
	Yeah.
	Super glued.
	No, they're done with hair.
	Do you have fake boobs?
	Do you have anything?
	It's all real.
	I don't know.
	Six and a half?
	No.
	Yeah, no, he's playing.
	No, he wants to rate you.
	Oh, no.
	Well, no, I think.
	Well, I think that you're five, but I think you'll take offense to me saying, hang on, stop.
	I think you'll take offense to me saying that, but all five means is average.
	So many people think they're above, they're way above average in the look scale.
	And it's like, but average is good.
	I don't know why.
	I don't know why every woman thinks that she's, you know, Cindy Crawford at 21.
	I don't know why they think that.
	Bizarre.
	It's like, yeah.
	Because I get paid.
	Six and a half with the makeup, by the way.
	So I don't know.
	You'd have to take it off for me then.
	And if you could, like, say the scale, that way those people will understand.
	Oh, sure.
	Okay.
	I'll do the scale.
	So, okay.
	One, but ugly.
	Two, unattractive.
	Three, plain.
	Four, below average.
	Five, average.
	Six, above average.
	Seven, pretty, eight, beautiful.
	Nine, gorgeous.
	Ten, absolutely stunning.
	So a nine or a ten, like heads are turning on a swivel as you walk down the street.
	Yeah, that means that sounds pretty like that sounds pretty good.
	Look, maybe it happened once in your life.
	No, it happens every day.
	Like every single day.
	Actually, I go outside with her.
	They do.
	Okay.
	Every single day.
	Okay.
	Let me see the back of your hand.
	Oh, sorry.
	Okay, so look.
	Oh, okay.
	Wait.
	I want to do type table.
	Wait, so okay, last thing on the looks thing.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	So you're 23, will you be better looking at 33?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 21, better looking in 10 years' time at 31?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're 27, better looking in 10 years' time at 37?
	No, probably not.
	And are you better looking now at 27 as compared to like 18?
	I would say so.
	I would say I've like grown into myself.
	Better looking now?
	Okay.
	You are 21, better looking at 31?
	Yeah.
	Okay, better looking in 20 years' time at 41.
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	You are 27.
	Today, yes.
	Yep.
	Better.
	Oh, yeah, it's your birthday.
	Holy shit.
	Happy birthday.
	Girl.
	Yeah.
	Birthdays.
	Sorry.
	Oh, my God.
	I was about to sing that shit.
	What?
	I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	Better looking at 37 in 20 years.
	I believe I will be, actually, yes.
	Black don't crack?
	Absolutely not.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 47.
	No, I don't believe so.
	And then were you better looking at 18?
	So like about 10 years ago as compared to now 27?
	No.
	I think I'm more attractive now.
	More attractive now.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're 32, better looking in 10 years' time at 42.
	Yeah.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 52.
	I wouldn't say better looking, but I'm still looking hot, though.
	You'll still be attractive.
	Because my mom is hot as shit.
	Well, I mean, so I'll even grant that you can still be attractive as you get older.
	But the question is, comparatively speaking, will you be more attractive?
	Yeah.
	I think it's possible.
	Wait, so okay.
	So with that clarification, better looking at 42 versus now 32, just to confirm.
	Yes.
	And then 52 versus 32?
	Keep up.
	Okay, and then were you better looking 10 years ago at 22 versus now at 32?
	I think it was a different look.
	I like this look better at 32 compared to 18.
	It's just a better, more confident.
	22.
	Or sorry, at 22.
	Even 22, I was hot, but I like my hotness now.
	It's just more confident.
	You're hotter now.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You're 34.
	Better looking in 10 years' time at 44?
	Yeah.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 54?
	Maybe.
	Better looking 30 years' time at 64.
	Yeah.
	I would say better looking.
	I would say still look good.
	Only because my grandma is 92.
	Not the question.
	Not the question.
	Is she single?
	Yeah, she's a widow, actually.
	Can you hook it up?
	She's a widow.
	So?
	I don't know.
	She said she's fucking big.
	For her age.
	She's single, though, right?
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah.
	Can you like Link?
	No, she wouldn't like.
	Okay, so.
	She doesn't like black eyes?
	No, it's not that.
	Like, she only dates to her.
	They were going to do genocide.
	The genocide, so when her husband was murdered, that was it.
	Like the end of it.
	It was just in Cambodia.
	Yeah, the Khmer Rouge.
	Khmer Rouge, yeah.
	So when they took her husband away.
	Wait, really?
	Pole pot on your pole pot?
	Is that what you said?
	So my grandma didn't remarried or get anybody else after her husband.
	That was it.
	Damn.
	Wait, she hasn't had sex in like 60 years?
	Pretty much, yeah.
	Respect.
	I will.
	And she has 12 children with him.
	Six made it to America, six died out there.
	That's beautiful, no?
	That is beautiful.
	I mean, if she's like trying to get it in, like, one more time.
	No, she's not.
	She chased people with a butcher knife when they try to hit on her.
	She what?
	She chased me with a butcher.
	A butcher knife?
	Yeah, like, are you stupid?
	I'm into that.
	Okay.
	Okay, all right.
	Whatever.
	So wait, okay.
	Better looking in 40 years' time at 74 versus now at 34.
	I wouldn't say better looking.
	I'll say I'll still look good.
	No, no, no, but that's the question.
	But the question is, better looking?
	Nah.
	Okay, and then you're 34.
	34 now?
	I got to ask a question.
	Does your grandma cook that good Cambodia food that everything is cooked in a steamer?
	Everything's cooked in a steamer?
	Everything's freshly made.
	And she doesn't eat beef, but she'll still cook us food with beef.
	And she doesn't even taste it, but it's so bomb.
	Like, I'm like, how?
	Like, you don't taste what's in it.
	So good.
	So good.
	I miss, I miss.
	I miss Cambodia.
	So, so good.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So were you better looking 10 years ago at 24 versus now at 34?
	I would say no.
	So better looking now?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then you're 18, better looking in 10 years' time at 28?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 20 years' time at 38?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 30 years' time at 48?
	Yeah, because I'm going to be a MILF.
	So yeah, I'm just going to get hotter each year.
	Okay, 40 years' time at 58?
	No.
	Okay, when did you peak then?
	Probably in like, yeah, mid-30s.
	Mid-30s.
	Okay.
	That's your goal to become a MILF?
	Yes.
	I think that's everyone.
	How many kids do you want?
	Like two or three.
	Not that many.
	Okay.
	Not like the Cambodian Gilf over there.
	Gilf?
	Is she a great-grandma or grandma?
	Great.
	She's my grandma.
	your grandma she's still damn okay She's how old?
	90?
	92.
	92.
	And she still looks good.
	Her skin's still tight.
	That's Lowie.
	If you were to hook up somebody that old.
	No.
	You know what I mean?
	They can give consent.
	Yeah.
	What if they have like, never mind.
	Okay, this is getting it.
	Sorry, so this is me.
	I'm just like thinking about it, you know?
	Okay, good talk.
	I have a story about that with one of my patients.
	Or it wasn't a patient.
	It was somebody who I met on the plane.
	He was 97, and he told me that his last, his wife's last dying wish was to go at it again.
	So before she died, they had sex, and that's how she went out.
	To those of you who think you'll be.
	So, okay, quick question.
	To those of you who think you'll be better looking in 10, 20, 30, whatever it is, 10, 20, 30 years, if we could wave a magic wand that you don't, you're going to live just as long as you were going to live regardless.
	You're not going to have health problems anytime sooner.
	Nothing's going to change except your outward appearance.
	We're just going to age you forward, your physical appearance, 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.
	Do you take it?
	Do you take what?
	So if you're like, okay, if you think you'll be better looking in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, then surely you would want to, if there was a magic wand that could advance your age, wouldn't you want to be better looking immediately?
	And I wonder if I grant the caveat that you stay.
	Here's the caveat I'm going to grant.
	If it's 10 years, 20 years ahead, you'll stay looking that way.
	Say I advance you 10 years forward.
	You'll stay looking 10 years older for 10 years.
	Like you won't age in terms of your appearance.
	And you won't die sooner.
	There's not going to be any health problems that would otherwise come if you were advanced in age 10 years.
	Do you take that deal?
	No.
	No.
	Oh, why not?
	I thought you would, don't you want to be better looking?
	Well, I say no personally because in order to reach that appearance, it's trials and tribulations to get that way.
	You know, you have to go to the gym and realize, okay, this is the gym body that I want.
	When you get older, like you, you try different skin lotions.
	You try different.
	Lotions.
	You know what I mean?
	Lotions.
	You use things, whether it's physically, whether it's mentally, like you're growing and you're aging.
	That's why people are great.
	You're not manifesting.
	No, no, like you're aging gracefully, being realistic.
	Like how I was back then, obviously I didn't have the confidence that I have now.
	And then for me to fast forward 10 years from now, just, I don't even know how I would look, but I know what I, the steps I would take to look the way I want to look at 37.
	I'll be eating healthier in the coming years.
	I'll be working out more in the coming years.
	I'll be using different skin products in the coming years.
	I'll be going in the ocean in Greece in a couple years.
	And it just changes the appearance when you actually age gracefully.
	So I don't know.
	I can't envision how I would look at 37, but I know the things that I would do in order for me to look beautiful at 37.
	So I wouldn't take grace.
	What's your question?
	Okay, so when I came on here, like, what was your first impression?
	Like, did you guys think I was my age or younger?
	Like, I'm just curious.
	Because I didn't know I was the oldest.
	You look like you left your waist at home.
	You look snatched.
	Watch!
	Snatched.
	I thought early 40s.
	Early 40s.
	I thought late 30s.
	Okay.
	28.
	What about having kids?
	Were you guys shocked when I said I was kids?
	I knew you were only five.
	I didn't think that it was going to be five.
	Yeah, that many.
	That's a lot, girl.
	You look good.
	God bless you.
	I hit the gym.
	Like, the gym is therapeutic for me.
	But I don't eat healthy.
	I hit the gym so I can eat whatever I want to eat.
	What you were saying before, it's like watching a movie at the end of it the most part.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	But not going through the whole movie.
	Yeah, how do I know I love this character that triumphs at the end if I don't see their trials and tribulation?
	Ooh, burn, whatever.
	Margeste donated $200.
	I can see why the 32-year woman wasn't able to find Andrew actually pressed her.
	I am 99% Andrew was right and that girl number one is on the same Nala Grift.
	Uh-oh.
	Yeah, it's actually kind of interesting timing with Nala coming on the show.
	Who is Nalo?
	Yeah.
	I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt until there's reason to not give the benefit of the doubt.
	Who is Nalo?
	Well, she was on the previous episode.
	Monest Hicama.
	How do you say that word?
	Hicama?
	Hicama?
	I don't know.
	Sorry for the delay in getting your TTS.
	And we have a moderation delay.
	And I was in the middle of the thing.
	But really good to see you in the chat, Monest Hicama.
	Good to see you back, man.
	It's been a while.
	Thank you so much.
	And then, okay, so those of you who said better looking in 10 years' time, none of you accept the magic wand to age you 10 years forward.
	Why not?
	No, because I enjoy every step of it.
	I would not trade it for anything.
	It's about the journey, right?
	But okay, don't you want to be better looking?
	I appreciate and enjoy myself now, and I want to just feel every step, so I would not shade.
	What do you mean, feel every step?
	Feel every step of my growth and change the appearance.
	What do I mean?
	Feel where I'm at now.
	What do you mean?
	I mean, literally what I'm saying.
	Literally, it's just prattle.
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	Okay, so your offer is about me not experiencing not feeling every stage of my appearance change and my maturing, basically.
	Do you understand what I'm saying right now?
	No.
	Why?
	No, I don't understand at all.
	Are you silly?
	Like, what's happening?
	I'm saying like very simple stuff.
	Are you?
	Yeah.
	I want to experience the process.
	I'm not talking like that now.
	No, I'm not talking this way.
	Would you?
	Would you take it?
	You don't like this.
	Total Russian accent.
	Okay.
	I'm Ukrainian.
	Okay, you need to get your shit together.
	Don't you speak Russian?
	I'm Ukrainian.
	No, but they speak Russian, don't they?
	Not all of us.
	Many of us.
	Most of us do.
	Okay.
	You want to get them to?
	No, come on.
	Yeah, it's so weird, though.
	It's like, from my perspective hearing that, it sounds to me like you're saying, like, let's pretend you're in a fire and you're a bad burn victim.
	And you're like, oh, I want to go through the stages of healing rather than just have a magic wand that made me completely healed.
	It's like, if you were going to be the most attractive in 10 years, right, then you are for the rest of your life.
	And you could stay in that stasis for like 15 years with no negative health effects.
	Then why the hell wouldn't you take it?
	That's just strange.
	That's a very stupid parallel.
	How can you even bring up the burning and the fire and healing here?
	What are you talking about?
	The idea here is like, oh my gosh.
	I want to go through the stages of this thing.
	Yeah.
	When we say why, you go, because I do.
	And it's like, well, then would you want to go through the stages of anything else cosmetically?
	Like, do you think that a woman who gets fake breasts wants to go through the stages of having small breasts?
	Like, they don't.
	Otherwise, they wouldn't get fake breasts, right?
	They get them for a reason.
	They don't want to go through the stages.
	But you have to go through the experience to know what you want.
	Like, with that hypothetical, I couldn't give one right back to you.
	You know, you have women who are, let's say, like overweight or obese, right?
	And they live life either constantly getting bullied or looking or being looked at in a negative light.
	And then they lose all this weight.
	And now the world looks at them differently, treats them differently.
	They have different privileges than they used to have.
	And some of them don't even like it.
	Some of them wish they could go back because of how they're being treated.
	I'm sorry?
	Because some of them.
	They can just pick up the fork and do it, right?
	Right, but not picking up a fork is not necessarily how people become obese.
	It's different for everyone.
	It depends on your health reasons and why you gain weight or what have you, whether it's having a lot of people.
	I agree that there's a caveat that many people do gain weight due to health circumstances, but I would also have to push back on this and say that the United States being a leader in obesity is most often because people overindulge in eating and in eating especially fatty and complex carbs and things like that.
	That's mostly where it comes from.
	Definitely a higher percentage.
	I agree.
	You know what we have to do?
	But the kind of like real quick though, if you don't mind, Brian, just to finish the point off with her, I think she's making a good point.
	She's like, look, it could actually change the type of person you are.
	I think I understand that's your argument, right?
	Right.
	Well, that makes sense if you're saying the type of person that I am changes.
	But if you're just saying, well, right now, I'm already experiencing how I look right now.
	And in 10 years, I'm just going to look way better, right?
	I don't know how that would change your personality exactly.
	Well, it would your mentality won't change and grow enough for you to actually live an authentic life.
	Like, let's think of every Cinderella movie.
	It's the geek, it's the nerd with the glasses.
	And whether she gets a friend or whether she gets a makeover, she wakes up.
	I thought she got the prince.
	I'm sorry?
	I thought Cinderella got the prince.
	Right, but every newer New Age Cinderella story where, or like, I forget the title, but the geek, you know, and then the popular kids, like, oh, I could make her into the prom queen, right?
	And so she gets that makeover.
	She gets that whatever, what have you.
	And now she's.
	So maybe they take a ridiculously good-looking woman and then pretend that she's not ridiculously good looking to trick the audience to say, oh, we're just going to take her glasses off and give her a push-up bra.
	And now she's super hot.
	We tricked you.
	Ha ha ha.
	Like, come on.
	That's just silly, right?
	Right.
	But living in that mindset, not looking outside, looking in, but looking in.
	If you were in that scenario and it was true, and now you're pretty, now you're beautiful, you know, because of society standards, because you have that long hair, you have that lipstick, you have those clothes, you have tighter-fitting clothing.
	Sometimes your mind doesn't really catch up to everyone's treating you different.
	You can't handle that.
	And I feel like you have to do that.
	I understand what you're saying, but I guess my pushback here would just be to say this.
	I have never seen a woman who goes from the ugly duckling phase into the beautiful swan phase, who wants to go back to the ugly duckling phase.
	I've never seen it once.
	And I've never seen a woman yet who gets the type of body that she wants, who wants to go back to the type of body she didn't want before.
	Never seen it happen, never.
	So we're not talking about going back.
	We're talking about the progression of going forward.
	So going back, of course, no one wants to go back to, well, at least.
	Right, so she looks how she does right now, and she says, I'll look better in 10 years.
	If that is the case, she knows how she looks right now, right?
	And she knows how she feels right now.
	How would that change by making her age forward into the more beautiful version of herself?
	That makes no sense.
	Because she doesn't know how she'll look in 10 years and she doesn't know how she's looking at her.
	She does.
	She says she'll look better.
	Being beautiful.
	She's better.
	Being beautiful does not come from the outside.
	Being beautiful strictly comes from the inside.
	So this whole conversation that you're saying.
	You're not allowing them.
	You're not allowing them to be pretty from starting inside.
	And then that's how you become pretty outside.
	How many different types of girls are there that are beautiful?
	Yeah, we're not going to be able to do that.
	Right, you're bigger, you're darker.
	I'm this, I'm that.
	But it comes from the inside out.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, then, why did you have any surgeries that you've got?
	From you, I don't have any surgeries.
	Oh, come on.
	What?
	You don't have one ugly killer?
	Nothing.
	Horrible.
	You look good.
	With what you just said, Andrew.
	Wait, wait, hang on.
	Hang on, I gotta go back to this.
	You don't have anything.
	Nothing.
	No, nothing has been done.
	Are you confusing?
	Not anything.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	I never had a needle to my face.
	Okay.
	Thank you, though.
	Woo!
	I'm winning.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't, I don't, I don't think I'm confused.
	Okay, guys, we're going to do.
	The thing on the teeth, everything.
	That's all.
	None of that's cosmetic.
	So, so, guys, we this is a new thing.
	What?
	What?
	All right, all right.
	Whatever you say.
	You want to ask my mom?
	We could call her.
	Axe.
	It all comes.
	It all comes from your mom.
	Can we ask your mom?
	It all comes from.
	Did I say that improperly?
	What are you guys saying?
	Ask?
	Axe?
	Axe.
	Ask.
	Axe.
	Ask.
	I say it the same way.
	My dad.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	You mean that?
	We have a new thing.
	We're doing a new thing where if the average rating of the table is above an eight, and I did the math.
	If the average rating of the table is above an eight, because we had an eight, ten, a nine, a nine, an eight, an eight, we have to do an intermission roast session.
	So we're going to do a brief session.
	The TTS has now been lowered to 69.
	I'm going to let a couple chats come through that just came in.
	North Alberta Kid donated $100.
	Thanks.
	This is what the Harris administration would look like.
	Diversity, inclusion, feminism.
	Top six feminine issues.
	I don't think you're going to wear that shit.
	Thank God Trump won.
	Trials and tributions of lotion.
	Actually, really quick question going around the panel on that.
	Who did you guys vote for in the election?
	I don't.
	Well, you're Panamania.
	I don't know.
	I'm agreeing with you.
	Who would you have voted for?
	Trump.
	Who did you vote for?
	I didn't vote.
	Okay.
	Who did you want to vote for?
	Who did you want to win?
	I didn't care.
	Harris.
	Okay.
	Not eligible.
	Who would you have voted for if you could have?
	I will stay neutral.
	Okay.
	That's a Kamala vote.
	What?
	Unfortunately, I didn't vote, but who would you?
	Who would have voted?
	It was a toss-up, honestly.
	You know, obviously.
	I'm a black woman, so you didn't vote.
	I didn't get a chance to because I moved.
	Wait, which you're from.
	I'm from Florida.
	Florida.
	But I lived in a different county, and my driver's license had that county, so I couldn't vote in the county that I was in unless I drove.
	So who did you want to win?
	Well, who I knew was going to win was Trump, for sure.
	I knew that doesn't really answer the question, but I would have voted for Kamala.
	Okay.
	Who did you vote for?
	Trump Train.
	Trump Train.
	Choo-Choo.
	Woo!
	Trump also.
	Choo-choo.
	Okay.
	I'm into politics.
	Trump.
	You didn't vote?
	Neutral.
	You didn't vote?
	Nope.
	Trump trained.
	I also did not vote.
	Who did you want to win, though?
	Honestly, none of them because I'm not informed enough.
	That's a really good thing.
	I would have voted for Kamala, but I would.
	Were you upset?
	Thank you.
	Thank you for not voting.
	I appreciate it.
	Were you upset that Trump won?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	I actually.
	No, I don't really care.
	I would have voted for Kamala, but I'm going to be happy that Trump won.
	My parents, they each voted for someone else.
	My mom.
	Wait, wait, wait, oh, wait.
	Your mom voted for Kamala.
	I think, I think.
	And your dad, who did your dad vote for?
	Trump.
	Are your parents still together?
	Yeah, they're nine years apart, which is crazy.
	W.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so he didn't tell her to vote Trump?
	I mean, I don't know.
	I haven't really talked to them about it, but I'm pretty sure that's who they voted for.
	Like, if I were to guess.
	Sure.
	All right, that's cool.
	We have some.
	Okay, we got some chats coming through.
	Talk 7.
	TTS is 69 for like five minutes.
	Ladies, red flag or green flag on guys using makeup to improve their looks.
	We'll go around the table really quick.
	Green flag, red flag if the guy's wearing makeup.
	I want to be with the guy who's wearing makeup.
	Okay.
	Red flag.
	Red flag?
	I don't know.
	I think it depends on the person.
	It's like that's very neutral for me because I work with a lot of models that do wear makeup.
	And like if they're confident, that's not.
	He's not a model.
	Okay.
	If he's a dude and he's confident about it and he works it, like, that's fine.
	He wears blush.
	I mean, that's fine.
	He wears eyeliner.
	I would say it's.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Oh, too much.
	He's like natural looking.
	He wears fake lashes.
	No.
	Okay.
	No.
	So what amount of makeup is acceptable?
	Like, what kind of makeup?
	I don't know.
	Lipstick?
	No, I guess just like just making it like natural, like a clean look.
	Like women do.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Red flag, green flag.
	Guy wearing makeup.
	If it's a concealer, completely green.
	If something else, probably red.
	Okay.
	Like you said, depends on the makeup.
	But I would.
	That's a neutral flag for me, honestly.
	It's not red or green.
	Hard?
	No.
	Hard no.
	Neutral.
	Depending on their occupation.
	You didn't vote.
	I mean, like.
	Just say you voted Trump.
	Come on.
	I didn't vote.
	You totally voted for Trump.
	I don't vote at all.
	Cambodians vote for Trump.
	I don't know that.
	Just say it.
	Just say it.
	I'm super neutral.
	Okay.
	Red flag if a guy wears makeup.
	Yeah, red flag.
	That's too zesty for me.
	Zesty.
	Too zesty for you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool.
	We have some more chats coming through.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	You're thinking about it.
	To the Medea-looking chick, the only scale she would rank a 7.5 on is the Richter scale when she walks.
	Side note: Trump won.
	MAGA.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	That was you or me.
	No, it was me.
	Yeah, for sure.
	7.5 is pretty good.
	I feel pretty good.
	It's a pretty good night.
	It's my birthday.
	Happy birthday.
	Inquisitor Zeal donated $69.
	To the one who said extra inches equals higher eating.
	I have so many extra inches.
	I have to tailor all my pants to avoid being indecent in public.
	Why does that affect my rating while I'm fully dressed?
	It doesn't affect your eating.
	I mean, if I can clearly see a print, because you know, a girl loves a good, you know, jogger season.
	So if I can see your print, it just brings your average up.
	What is he saying?
	That his dick is too big?
	Yeah, yeah.
	He might be saying he's fat.
	No, he's saying he has extra inches.
	That's what he said.
	Okay.
	Just Gerald.
	Thank you, man.
	Just Gerald donated $69.
	Brian, great panel.
	But you know what would make this panel better?
	If everyone at the panel said Troll in 3, 2, 1.
	Troll.
	Wow, that was great.
	Good job, guys.
	Good job.
	Thank you, Gerald.
	Appreciate it.
	We have one more coming in.
	Dylan Joe.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Troll LOL.
	Dylan Joe donated $69.
	Thank you, Dylan Joe.
	If you're not single and have a male friend, I dare y'all to call/slash text him that you want a blowy from him.
	See how fast he'll come running.
	So this is like, thank you, Dylan.
	This is kind of like a lot of women will have male friends and think that they're just friends, but secretly, the guy has a thing for you, and the test would be like, I wouldn't say offer him a blowy, but like you could just be like, hey, what's up?
	You want to like Netflix and chill or something?
	I'm not in New York, so.
	Yeah.
	Huh?
	This is a friend.
	I'm at home.
	Word.
	You said if a friend asks you, a male friend?
	No, like, is he actually your friend?
	Because if you offer to have sex with him, is he actually and he says yes, is he your friend?
	Like, actually, your friend, you know?
	In any case, so thank you, Dylan Joe.
	Appreciate it.
	We'll allow for a few more minutes.
	We'll allow a couple more roasts to come through if you want, guys.
	Because they all rated themselves, the average rating of the panel is eight and above.
	We are doing this new thing where we'll do a $69 TTS temporarily, then we're going to boost it back up.
	So if you want, get a TTS in $69.
	I have a question for you.
	You said you've been single for three years.
	This is your first year at college, right?
	You're a freshman?
	Have you been dating at all here in college?
	No, not at all.
	Definitely not.
	What about like casual, though?
	Like dating?
	Well, because like when I sometimes when I use the term dating, people think that means something more serious.
	But when I use it, it can encompass and include even very casual encounters like Friends with Benefits, Sneaky Link, this sort of thing.
	You've been to college for three months now?
	Yeah.
	Started in what, August for you, August, September, October.
	Yeah.
	Any prospects?
	Yes, of course.
	How many are you currently seeing a guy?
	A couple.
	A couple guys?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by that?
	Just like hanging out as friends.
	You mean more than friends?
	Well, I mean, it depends on what I feel.
	What do you mean?
	It depends on what you feel.
	Are you hooking up with him?
	Some of them.
	How many are there?
	Because there's some of them.
	Like, there's been different ones, but.
	But, so, okay, the past.
	Let's just say the past three months you've been here.
	How big is the roster?
	The current roster or like the biggest the roster ever was probably only like two or three at a time.
	Okay, how many are there currently?
	Probably only like two or three.
	Only two.
	Well, is it two or is it three?
	I'm trying to think because I don't like all of my roster, but they're there, you know.
	You don't get rid of them.
	Are you hooking up with them though?
	Only one.
	Only one guy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But you've hooked up with the other ones too.
	Yeah, I have, but you don't like them as much.
	Yeah, probably won't hook up again.
	In a 24-hour period, have you ever hooked up with two of them?
	In Santa Barbara?
	No way.
	Okay, you're.
	June, you're in high school.
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	Yes, two people in the same night.
	In the same night?
	Yes.
	Three people in the same night?
	No.
	How about 72 hours?
	Three in 72 hours.
	I think, yeah.
	Have you done three?
	Have you done four?
	No.
	In a week?
	In a week?
	Three, four?
	Four different guys?
	No, probably not.
	Three guys, though.
	Yeah.
	Okay, a fortnight, two weeks.
	Four guys?
	I don't think so.
	Okay, so three is kind of like.
	Yeah.
	When you say two in one night, walk us through that.
	Oh, like, so basically, I was talking to this guy, but we weren't really like talking.
	We were just friends, but like we would like get together and stuff.
	And then there was this other guy that I liked.
	So it was like a big party, and I kind of just was dancing with both of them, but like that didn't find out ever.
	Like, I would just go back and forth to them.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Wait, just to be clear, like, sex?
	No, no, she's 18.
	It's different.
	It's a different game at that age.
	This is like a high school party.
	Yeah, and I liked two guys, and I just.
	No, but I was asking if you had hooked up, like had sex.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	So, not two different sexual encounters.
	Oh, yeah, no, just no, definitely not.
	Dance.
	That's cute.
	Do you seem like you don't believe me?
	Well, I mean, it's the way you initially answered the question, I think.
	Oh, I didn't know what you classified as hooking up.
	Oh, sex.
	No.
	Oh, then no.
	So it was like, what?
	Making out?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, okay, then, if we're talking about sex, have you ever had sex with two guys in a 72-hour period?
	Definitely not.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	So, but currently, but you're single, right?
	Yes, of course.
	The guy you're currently.
	There is a guy you're currently having sex with Cardinal Knowledge.
	No, actually, no.
	You're not having sex with him.
	No.
	But you're hooking up with him.
	Yes.
	But you're not having sex.
	No.
	But you're hooking up.
	What is classified as hooking up?
	What do you, but like, what do you do then?
	Just like make out and talk and cook.
	But wait, are you not a virgin, though?
	Um, depends on the guy.
	Wait, what's happening?
	I'm so confused.
	Wait, what do you mean depends on the guy?
	What do you mean depends on the guy?
	She's on to something, guys.
	Hold on.
	Like, if I want them to think I'm a virgin, then I'll tell them that I am.
	Period.
	Oh, okay.
	But not if I don't anymore.
	But if I don't, if it doesn't matter, then.
	Oh, no.
	Wait, wait.
	You said that age, but that was a thing.
	You guys don't remember?
	Again, you're a virgin?
	Yeah, it's still a thing.
	That's still a thing.
	Nothing changed.
	Wait, you did that shit?
	What?
	Wait, so just to be clear, you'll tell a guy that you're a virgin?
	I mean, I never have, but like, I would if it came down to it.
	She's really good at this.
	Wait, what?
	I don't really be doing all that.
	I just like to have fun, but not have sex.
	Have you had sex?
	Yes, everybody here has.
	I mean.
	Yeah.
	I don't know about Brian.
	I'm not.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Have you told a guy that you're a virgin, but you weren't?
	No, but I would, definitely.
	You would.
	What do you mean, why?
	I don't know.
	Just like.
	So he would like you more?
	No, just because.
	Just.
	I don't know.
	If he's a virgin, just so it's not weird.
	Oh, so he feels more comfortable?
	Yeah.
	Like, not in like a weird way, just, you know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	We've got the scoop then.
	We have a couple chats coming.
	Ooh, 4B.
	Let's talk about 69 donated $69.
	Lots of recent social media videos on 4B and hating men.
	Three more chats.
	And women who are pro-Trump.
	Good, actually.
	Feminists will stop being 304s.
	Most saying this too likely will revert quickly to their own ways.
	Yo, GigaChat69, thank you so much for the TTS.
	Once we get through these chats, I'll pull up the 4B stuff.
	Thank you.
	Jess Gerald donated $69.
	Oh, come on, panel.
	That was lackluster at best.
	Give it your all.
	With all your strengths.
	This guy did a lot of time.
	Three, two, one.
	Cho!
	LOL!
	Thank you, Gerald.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Beat in Cheeks here.
	Beat in Cheeks.
	Thank you, Jerry.
	Thank you, Chief.
	Beats in Cheeks donated $69.
	Men watching in, avoid those Carmela supporters.
	Andrew for Lady President 2028.
	Andrew for Lady President.
	Okay.
	Yo, good to see you in the chat, beat in cheeks, man.
	It's been a while.
	Thank you, man.
	Wait, question for you.
	Yeah.
	Who did your boyfriend vote for?
	Harris.
	Is he a white guy?
	Yeah.
	So, like, white dudes for Harris?
	I don't, I mean, I don't care about their ethnicity, but we just both support her policies a lot more.
	If you knew he voted for Trump, would you break up with him?
	No.
	I don't think politics has enough to do with our relationship.
	Wouldn't that be huge, though?
	Like, totally different values.
	In a way, but wouldn't you want to date somebody who has the same values as you?
	I would.
	I would much prefer it, yeah.
	And that's why I'm dating him.
	But so if he was like, look big, Harris, like, can't do it.
	You know, just don't agree with me.
	We would just agree to not disagree and not.
	So, okay, so he's like, really?
	Yeah, probably.
	You'll stay with him.
	I don't know.
	I haven't been in a situation where I've been politically different from the person I'm dating.
	Usually we have the same mindset and ideals.
	All right.
	We've got Larson coming in here.
	Did C2 tame her dragon yet?
	You're not getting turning heads because you think you're nine or ten.
	It's because nothing about you looks natural, kind of like a T-word.
	Off with the makeup.
	I think you're a bio-woman.
	A what?
	A bio woman.
	He's saying you're, he's like accusing you of being the other.
	A transformer.
	What do you look like?
	Boom, roasted.
	That's what I want to know.
	Fucking roasted, Larson.
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	Here, let's pull up the 4B thing.
	Let's pull up the 4B.
	So, okay, Trump won the election on Tuesday.
	A lot of women have been very upset.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	We'll pull it up.
	All right.
	So the 4B movement is a radical feminist movement.
	It first emerged during the South Korean gender wars during the mid to late 2010s.
	The name refers to its defining four tenets, which all start with the Korean by B, I don't know.
	Roughly meaning no.
	Its proponents refuse to date, get married, have sex, or have children with cisgender men.
	As opposed to cisgender women?
	Okay.
	Scroll down.
	Oh, wait, actually, sorry.
	Go back up really quick.
	And it says, interest in 4B increased in the United States after the re-election of Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential race.
	Like the radical feminist movements it arose out of, a small subset of it has been accused of furthering a trend.
	What?
	i know i know what it says uh however most proponents of the movement okay uh scroll down So these are the beliefs, the four no's.
	No sex with men by sexu, no giving birth.
	Anybody here speak Korean?
	No, okay.
	All right.
	No giving birth.
	Okay, whatever.
	No dating men.
	No marriage with men.
	This is a nun.
	So.
	That's a nun.
	So.
	It's a nun.
	Yeah, that's the answer.
	It's a fucking idiot, what it is.
	This is the funniest thing in the world.
	So here's the idea here.
	The idea here is that a bunch of Christian Bible-thumping conservatives told a bunch of OF prostitutes, hey, we want you to stop being OF prostitutes.
	In response to this, by taking away what they perceive as their right to abortion, they're saying that they're going to immediately stop being prostitutes.
	I think it's hilarious and in every way conceivable funny.
	They're basically playing into exactly what was requested of them, right?
	Which is, well, you wouldn't have as many abortions if you weren't out sleeping with everything that walked.
	So by you not doing that, you're not going to have as many abortions.
	This is the point, right?
	Where was that in the article?
	He just gave his take.
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to say, like, I didn't read any of that.
	I would say not everything that walked, everything that walked and paid.
	Let's get that clear.
	Hello.
	Yeah, right.
	So here's the general idea.
	Conservative Christians are saying, look, we don't want there to be abortions, and we think that there will be way less abortions if men and women aren't having promiscuous sex.
	I agree.
	That's logical, right?
	The less sex that's being had outside of marriage, obviously the less abortions there's going to be.
	The radical feminist response to this is, oh, yeah, well, we'll teach you a lesson by not having sex.
	I don't see how this is like hurting the other side since that's what they wanted to begin with.
	I don't actually understand why they're not basically playing into the right wing's hand with this.
	I don't get it.
	I don't know.
	They just sound like a bunch of weirdos.
	I get what you just said.
	So to break down the 4B, like, is it a term that you call someone?
	Is it a movement?
	Well, here.
	Well, let's break it down more simply.
	Forget 4B, right?
	You'll see this trend all over TikTok, and you'll see it all over social media right now with women who are not just radical feminists, but just like kind of Harris supporters.
	And so their essential argument is this.
	If we can't have abortions, right, then we're just going to stop sleeping around with men.
	We're just going to stop having sex with men.
	And this is our way of teaching men a lesson for trying to involve themselves in the details of our bodies.
	The right-wing and conservative right-wingers who are like, okay, great.
	We didn't want you to be having promiscuous sex, which led to abortions anyway.
	So this is fantastic.
	So I don't understand how that doesn't actually play against the Harris supporting women exactly.
	And that's called 4B.
	I don't understand.
	Well, you said where they're boycotting men.
	So 4B.
	Yeah, they're boycotting.
	They're just trying to boycott men.
	They're basically wanting to have sex, like not to get married, not to date, not to talk to men.
	And that's being 4B?
	That's like the 4B movement.
	Yeah, let's just say that that's 4B, yeah.
	Okay.
	Crazy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't agree with that.
	They're just okay.
	But doesn't, I mean, so to kind of play into this, doesn't it seem that feminists who would make the claim that women are more than their sexuality and their sexual identity and are not to be objectified as purely sexual objects, if the very first response that they have to men voting in mass that abortions be outlawed, to say we'll no longer have sex with you, aren't they essentially just kind of saying that they're sexual objects?
	Kind of in a way.
	I get to that.
	Yeah, kind of in a way, right?
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I think it's ultimately very ironic that these women's very first kind of response is to say, oh, yeah, well, we're not going to fuck random people anymore.
	It's like, well, that was the point, right?
	Sucks for you guys, huh?
	Yeah.
	I feel like a majority of the masses did what you implied that they did, which is probably factual.
	But, you know, if someone is, it calls me lazy and I do everything opposite to prove that I'm not, I don't see the bad part of it.
	No, no, no.
	But, okay, well, I understand what you're saying.
	But let me maybe give you the response to this.
	Right?
	Let's say somebody says, okay, you need to go to work because you're lazy.
	And you're like, I'm not lazy.
	That's not true.
	Right?
	I'll show you by going to work, right?
	Aren't you doing exactly what they wanted you to do in the first place?
	Like that, right?
	Like that you're doing what they wanted you to do to begin with.
	So wouldn't that be the same case with abortions where they're like, we want you to stop sleeping with men so you have less abortions?
	And you're like, well, I'll teach you by sleeping with less men so I don't have abortions, right?
	Right, I get the concepts, yeah.
	Yeah, it just seems like it's the same.
	You're applying the same thing here, right?
	So that's the general idea.
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	I wanted to go something that you said.
	You said chivalry is dead.
	Because of men speaking the way that you guys are.
	Like how I'm speaking?
	There's a couple things you said that I'm not going to remember.
	Chivalry is dead just because I think of how we're trying to think about our modern dating.
	Like, however, this abortion conversation went was completely left field for me in my head.
	Like, this whole abortion thing was not because girls are having sex.
	This abortion thing was because we are not supposed to be having sex.
	Or you like abortion is not supposed to be used as birth control.
	Okay, I'm thinking about the baby, not like just sex-wise.
	Did I make sense?
	Was your rambling?
	Yeah, but how, I know it doesn't make any sense.
	Sorry.
	Why would you need to use birth control if you're not having sex?
	Well, the fact of the matter is, anyone making a baby is having sex, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So if you're having sex, right, and you're worried about having a baby, right?
	You should be on birth control so that way you don't have to abort it.
	Yeah, but if you're not having sex, you don't have to worry about having babies, right?
	Correct.
	Yeah, I would say that that's factual.
	Yeah, so the idea here is that, so yeah, got it.
	So then the idea here then is that if women aren't having sex, they're not going to be having babies that they need to abort.
	Well, the idea here is that women, that's, we're not nuns.
	We're going to be having sex.
	For you to find a husband, for you to want children, you have to have sex for that.
	Why do you have to have sex to find a husband?
	No.
	I think that's just an unrealistic thing to say.
	What?
	Why is that unrealistic to say?
	The only reason why you get a husband is to have sex with him.
	That's the only person that you could do that.
	You need to find a partner.
	Or you can choose for the rest of your life.
	The only other thing is that.
	I think for years it was the norm.
	Like you can have.
	And the Bible, the whole Bible is like they waited.
	And up till now, like up till like 20 years ago, it was not normal to have sex outside of marriage.
	Well, I wasn't negating that.
	I believe that.
	I agree with that.
	I'm just saying, like, for me, for me, my husband that I pick, because I could pick a best friend.
	I could pick a business partner.
	I could pick somebody else.
	The only person in that space that I'm going to be fucking, sorry.
	Ooh, sorry.
	That was bad.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	That I'm going to be having sex with is my husband.
	So I'm going to take that highly into consideration compared to like, oh, but a best friend.
	I could have one of those.
	Well, you should have it all.
	Like, you're right.
	I agree.
	So, hold on.
	Before, okay, so let's explore this, though.
	You said chivalry is dead.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So what is chivalry?
	To me, I think it's somebody or whether it's a male or female doing the best that they can to put both of us in the best position that we can.
	With respect.
	What does that mean?
	To put me in a better spot.
	Doesn't chivalry have to do with traditional gender roles as it relates to men's treatment towards me.
	So chivalry, going back to the domestic violence, would be me picking somebody who leads me enough to where we're not getting worse hurt.
	If you smack him, he doesn't smack you back.
	That was your argument.
	No, my argument was if I hit somebody, right?
	And you shouldn't do that.
	Well, I'll tell you.
	The chivalrous thing to do would be to step back.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Oh, yes.
	The chivalrous thing.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, but hold on.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	Does a lady ever strike a man?
	No.
	Right.
	So who's deserving of chivalry?
	Everybody.
	No, no, Hold on.
	Chivalry is from men to women.
	Women are not chivalrous to men.
	It's a unidirectional, it's one-directional.
	So, and typically who's going to be chivalrous?
	A gentleman, right?
	I think it goes both ways.
	Okay.
	Is a woman who is not a lady deserving of chivalry?
	Is a woman.
	So you would agree.
	Not ladylike.
	Okay, so.
	That proves my point.
	It goes back and forth.
	For a man to be chivalrous to a woman, a woman has to act correctly.
	Correct.
	I agree.
	Right.
	So a woman who is not acting like a lady is not deserving of chivalry.
	I think we all are deserving.
	I think it's up to the.
	I don't, you're right.
	I'll give you that one for right now.
	You're right.
	Okay.
	Well, okay.
	If she's not acting right, yeah, she doesn't deserve it.
	So is a man who is not a gentleman, he's not chivalrous.
	Is he deserving of a lady?
	Does he deserve to date a lady?
	No.
	Not if he's not acting right.
	If you're not acting right, you don't deserve a good woman.
	Right.
	So in no scenario, because you're saying, well, there should be chivalrous treatment towards the woman, but you've precluded yourself from being treated as a lady by striking him.
	I've seen great guys who are real gentlemen who could see a girl act like a ratchet bitch and they would still treat her with the same respect as a normal woman.
	Well, sorry, Brian, go ahead.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm almost done.
	So I'll even grant to you that absolutely a woman could be ratchet.
	She could be a degenerate sex worker.
	She could be the least ladylike possible.
	And there's plenty of men who are quite, in my opinion, have absolutely no boundaries, no standards, who are simps, who will still, despite her unladylike conduct, will still, because they're pathetic or simps or desperate for pussy, whatever it is.
	I agree.
	Who are doormats who just get walked all over, who will still give that kind of treatment to those kinds of women?
	Correct.
	It happens all the time.
	I don't disagree with you at all.
	My argument here, though, is that those women don't deserve it.
	They might get that treatment, but they don't deserve it.
	I see where you're coming from.
	I definitely see where you're coming from.
	I just think that sometimes people just need to see it.
	You know, that girl that's acting like a ratchet, you know, she hasn't seen it yet.
	So the first guy who shows her how a real man acts, he just gave her captain save hoe.
	He just gave her.
	He's got a calm.
	She was saving a hoe with her man.
	She was paying for his bill.
	You just called her a hoe?
	No.
	I was fouling her.
	No, no, no.
	You literally just called her a hoe.
	She was what I saw.
	I was saving a hoe.
	She called the man the hoe.
	She was Captain Save.
	Oh, she was Captain Save Hoe.
	Yeah, she was.
	Oh, my bad.
	Okay.
	Yeah, she was captive.
	You're saying her man was a hoe?
	Yeah.
	Did you hear what he said?
	Did you hear his story?
	He was a hoe.
	He was a hoe.
	Yeah, he was a hoe.
	So over to this, I would like to ask you a question, though.
	Do you think that men were much more chivalrous in the 1800s and early 1900s, like 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s?
	Do you think they were more chivalrous or less chivalrous?
	I mean, it depends because, like, I know that they were raping women.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, let's not use the argument.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	But you know what I meant.
	They were chivalrous.
	Yeah, yeah, I understand.
	Just use SA.
	It doesn't offend me.
	It's just for the purpose of the platform.
	I apologize.
	Yeah, yeah, it's not a problem.
	But do you think that they were more or less chivalrous?
	Anybody else want to answer this question?
	That was for you.
	I can answer it.
	I think it depends.
	It's a black and white thing.
	It's a black and white thing.
	Yes, I do think that they were more.
	They were black and white, then it doesn't depend.
	No, I didn't mean it like that.
	You guys keep on twisting my shit.
	Don't be racist.
	There's Asian people too.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and Native Americans.
	That's not what I meant.
	That's not one of the Haitians.
	I'm not trying to pick on you.
	I'm just trying to talk to you.
	No, I'm not worried about it.
	When you say something is black or white, then that means is arisen.
	So it wouldn't be black or white.
	You would say it's nuanced, right?
	You'd say.
	It's like it's a fine line.
	Like, in the 1800s, they were picking you up on horses.
	They weren't, like...
	Horses?
	Yeah, the 1800s.
	They didn't have cars.
	They had horses.
	Well, do you think that we had peak chivalry then in the age of chivalry, like the medieval age?
	No, I don't think so.
	I mean, that's where.
	Well, then, when did we have a child?
	They were crazy back in the day.
	That was the age of chivalry.
	That's where chivalry came from.
	That's where the term came from.
	It came from knights with lances who were, here's my token, my lady, right?
	That's chivalry, right?
	Like, they lived by the chivalric code.
	It was an actual code of conduct.
	So we had the most amount of chivalry then, right?
	Have you ever watched Troy?
	You know, Troy?
	Yeah, but that's.
	Because that's like my favorite movie in the whole world.
	Yeah, sure.
	Troy's great, but that's way before chivalry.
	We agreed on something, Troy.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But that's way, way before chivalry.
	You're talking about, you're talking about a Greek epic, right?
	It's like, that's way before.
	But chivalry would be like, let's say like, you know, 1100 to like, oh, I don't know, like 1500, give or take, right?
	Something in there.
	That's when they were riding their horses and there were knights and they would be like, my lady, I'll slay the dragon for you type of thing, right?
	I'll pick a yes or no.
	I definitely want one of those compared to these.
	Yeah, right.
	But do you think in those eras that men were more or less likely to slap a woman to correct her?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	I know that.
	So in the age of peak chivalry, they were more likely to slip.
	No, yeah, this is correct.
	It's good.
	It's a good combo.
	But you think that it's the most chivalric thing to do to not slap women to correct them.
	It depended your rank.
	Whoa, that was W.
	That was a fucking dick.
	It was not.
	It depended on your rank.
	It depended on your rank.
	They weren't getting slapped.
	They weren't getting hit if they were in a high rank.
	If you were in a low rank, like duchesses and stuff like that.
	There's rank.
	There was rankings.
	Or if you were in a court, like your social, your social status at the time.
	You guys never watched rain?
	Like, oh my God.
	You think that kings, I'm sorry, you think that kings didn't slap queens?
	No, they're queens.
	No, of course they got slapped.
	They smacked them.
	They would literally correct this in front of the court.
	These are just different times too, though.
	Andrew, Andrew, we learned.
	King Henry, King Henry VIII.
	This motherfucker killed six.
	Wait, no, sorry, hold on.
	It was divorced.
	Wait, what was the order?
	Divorced.
	Okay, listen, Bill.
	I just want to let you know, queens had to bow to their kings.
	Divorce.
	And if queens needed correction, kings would smack them.
	Princes with princesses, same things.
	They could smack them.
	If you had knights and the knights had women of noble stock who were in their homes, who were out of line, they actually had what was called dominion over the wife.
	The wife, the reason you take a last name is because of English common law that is giving you as an extension, the father is giving you the woman.
	You guys sound like a lot.
	Hang on, I'm just explaining to you this.
	It's giving the woman to the man.
	And now you have the man's last name.
	You're now part of his house.
	You became part of his property.
	Do you think it was more or likely, less likely in those times for a man to be like, oh, you're out of line?
	Which, I mean, which one do you the most chivalric time ever?
	I think the term was like coined then, but I don't think that it's necessarily how.
	Like, it's more chivalrous now, but it was just a term that was coined then.
	Really quick, really quick.
	I got it.
	It's more chivalrous now?
	Men are more chivalrous?
	I got to pull this up.
	If we have maximum chivalry, we're not feminism thing.
	There was no Captain Save-A-Hose back in the day.
	At least they gave you a house and a part of that.
	They didn't give it to you.
	You were part of their property.
	Wait, one second.
	I got to pull this up.
	Okay, so King Henry, King Henry VIII.
	Look at this fucking GigaChat.
	So he lived 1491 to 1547, and so he had six different wives, six different queens, divorced the first one, beheaded the second, the third one died, divorced the fourth, beheaded the fifth, and then the sixth, she survived.
	He beheaded two of his wives.
	Beheaded.
	Not just smacked around.
	Beheaded, son.
	Beheaded?
	Yeah, and he could.
	Beheaded.
	Anne Boleyn.
	Anne Boleyn.
	Beheaded.
	By the way, Ryan, now pull up the date for the chivalric code.
	Chivalric code.
	Chivalric.
	Chivalric code.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	By the way, pull up the article really quick, though.
	I'll find, pull up the article from scroll down, go to marriages.
	This is a whole different time period.
	I don't see a whole different time period.
	Marriages.
	Okay, damn.
	Fucking Catherine, fucking babe.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down.
	Keep going.
	Let's see the other ladies.
	Boom.
	Anne Boleyn?
	Babe status.
	He beheaded her, though.
	Jane Seymour, she died.
	Sad.
	Very sad.
	Next.
	Anne of Cleves divorced her because apparently his advisors, his court painter, painted a unrepresentative, like made her more attractive than she actually was, but he already committed to marrying her.
	He thought she was not very attractive.
	Divorced her.
	Divorced.
	Because she was not a babe.
	Scroll down.
	Catfish.
	Catherine Howard, now she was doing some philandering.
	She was on some 300 faux trumpet shit.
	Beheaded.
	Allegedly.
	Well, the beheading wasn't alleged.
	The trumpeting was alleged.
	And then finally, she got beheaded, though.
	She was 17?
	I mean, most of them were.
	Yeah.
	Like, you'd get married at like 13 in the king's house.
	Why was everyone like ugly and drinking?
	Hang on.
	I got to read.
	Just real quick.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	You can find this in this fine book called Occult Feminism.
	There's a chapter here on chivalry.
	This will be very quick.
	I promise I won't waste very much time.
	Here's the code of chivalry.
	Thou shalt believe all that the church teaches and thou shalt observe all its directions.
	Thou shalt defend the church.
	Thou shalt respect all weakness and thou shalt constitute thyself as a defender of them.
	Thou shalt love the country in which thou was born.
	Thou shalt not recoil before thine enemy.
	Thou shalt make war against the infidel without concession and without mercy.
	Thou shalt perform scrupulous thy feudal duties and they be not contrary to the laws of God.
	Thou shalt never lie.
	Thou shalt remain faithful to thy pledge word.
	Thou shalt be generous.
	Thou shalt be everywhere and always be the champion of the right and good against injustice and evil.
	Did you see anything?
	No.
	That all sounds great.
	That all sounds fantastic.
	Those guys, I want to ask you this question.
	Do you think that those men at that time period were more or less likely to correct their woman with a smack?
	More.
	More.
	Totally.
	way more likely to correct him with a smack so it's like we're children getting it back in the day If you really want chivalry and you really want the man who defends a code like that, then a man who defends a code like that is going to defend it for a woman who is an extension of him, who becomes one flesh with him.
	That's the only way that you're ever going to get chivalry back because as it famously is stated, chivalry is dead and women killed it.
	Yeah, but I don't think we use the term like that nowadays.
	You know what I mean?
	That's like not necessarily how we use that term anymore.
	It's like the idea.
	The idea of what?
	Of like, of just that men should just be gentlemen.
	That's the romanticized idea of be nice.
	Yeah.
	And this is the Disney princess idea that if you're in a coma, the handsome prince will come and kiss you and you'll wake up.
	Women's minds in modernity have been Disneyfied.
	All woman's or female virtues, so all of those that I just read, those were virtues expected of men.
	And actual virtues expected of men that they had to adhere to.
	Women also had a specific code of virtues they had to adhere to.
	And all of that has been abandoned for a single modern virtue for women called be nice.
	That is the modern, single overriding virtue of all things for modern women is be nice.
	It has overridden all feminine virtues, and that's why they don't get chivalrous.
	Because men don't give a shit about be nice.
	It makes no sense.
	It's silly.
	Right?
	Like you saw in the code, for instance, it said to mercilessly hunt down the infidel and take them out on behalf of your nation.
	That's not very nice, right?
	It's not very nice.
	They weren't particularly nice when they were going into battlefields with claymores and cutting people in half.
	Not very nice.
	Just saying the virtues that they were striving towards, very different than virtues in modernity.
	Andrew, can you check your text?
	I sent you a text if you can check that really quick.
	Let's see here.
	I'm going to get into some of the pre-show notes.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Just give me a second, though, okay?
	Yeah, I'll get up in, I don't know, five, ten minutes.
	Okay, so we are going to get into the people's pre-show notes.
	Some of you guys provided some pre-show notes.
	So let's go to Melons.
	Hi.
	You describe yourself as a busty baddie, singer, Haitian, plus size, body positivity.
	Yeah, that's me.
	Dope.
	You said dating someone.
	Wait, hold on.
	You said you were single.
	I am.
	But in your pre-show notes, you said you're dating someone special.
	Yeah.
	Is he dating someone?
	Like, is he retarded?
	No, we're not together.
	It's not a committed relationship.
	Like, he's on the short bus?
	No.
	It means I'm dating someone.
	Like, his IQ is like sub-100?
	Room temperature IQ?
	No, like, you know, special.
	He said you're dating someone special.
	Yeah, like you are.
	Like, you're special, right?
	A little bit.
	Yeah, I'm a little arslerd.
	Okay.
	Well, maybe, maybe the same.
	I'll say the same boat, probably.
	That's nice that you give people out that a chance.
	For sure.
	I mean, everyone deserves a chance.
	You're right.
	Everyone.
	Is it actually a crime?
	I'm just curious.
	Is it a crime to date like a sped?
	If they can prove that they're competent in dating or like if you dated somebody with Down syndrome, then you don't have Down syndrome.
	Like, is that?
	No, no.
	If you can prove that you're competent.
	I'm going to make some of my girlfriends.
	Like, in the cases you're talking about, if you can prove that you're competent and you can live alone and you can take care of yourself, then yeah.
	If you're like halfway, like R Slurred.
	Like, are you, can you date someone with Down syndrome?
	Yes.
	You have to prove to the state that they're competing.
	You can date somebody with Down syndrome?
	Yes, you can.
	Because they're people too.
	But is it like a crime?
	No, because if they're competent.
	No, I just don't.
	I don't know.
	You can't.
	But what if they're not?
	Like, isn't there degrees of Down syndrome?
	So, yes.
	Or it's like really bad.
	If they're not competent, then they can't make decisions on themselves.
	So if they engage with someone, that person can, quote unquote, be taking advantage of it.
	I do want to open this one up to the panel.
	I've never asked this question.
	Would you date a guy with Down syndrome?
	I can't believe I just asked that, but Bree, starting with you, what if he's Bree?
	No.
	You wouldn't.
	You wouldn't take a guy with Down syndrome.
	That's disgusting.
	You're so ableist.
	I don't care.
	I can't believe.
	Don't care.
	Being really disrespectful to the Down syndrome community.
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	Okay, would you date somebody with Down syndrome?
	No.
	Probably not.
	Does your yes, because it's different.
	The spectrum is very vast.
	So you would like hit.
	You would hit.
	The spectrum is very vast.
	So it could be literally someone who's legally R-word, but they're competent or have Down syndrome, but they don't look like the average person who has Down syndrome.
	But not that it matters, but it just depends on the level of the degree of their either autism or Down syndrome.
	Down syndrome.
	I don't know what that is.
	What is that?
	Average Down syndrome.
	Autistic.
	Yeah, like it just, the spectrum is vast.
	So I would.
	Okay.
	Would you date a guy with Down syndrome?
	What about?
	Probably not.
	Yeah.
	What if he never would cheat on you?
	He never cheated.
	I don't have time right now.
	How much of a.
	You've got to be a pretty like giga chat.
	Sorry, never mind.
	What about you?
	Would you date a guy with Down syndrome?
	No.
	Damn, y'all.
	I was going to say neutral, and then you'd be like, damn, neutral.
	Would you date a girl with Down syndrome?
	Let me just Google hot Down syndrome chick.
	You'd be oh, girl.
	Okay.
	You'd be surprised.
	Oh, shit, bro.
	Damn.
	You'd be surprised.
	There are some attractive people who have Down syndrome.
	Wait, becomes Victoria's secret first model.
	Wait, what?
	Do you see what I mean now?
	Whoa.
	There's an attractive down syndrome.
	Pump the brakes.
	Yeah.
	I gotta.
	Sophia Giraud?
	The spectrum is.
	Hold on.
	I'm sending you this article, bro.
	Pull this shit up.
	Damien, pull this shit up.
	Damien.
	Hold on.
	Wait, let me just double check, make sure it's safe.
	Damn.
	You know what, bro?
	I'm trying to tell you.
	Now pull up.
	Damn, bro.
	Pull up men, hot men with Down syndrome.
	I bet the girl's a little bit more.
	Let's see.
	Like, fucking Calvin Klein Down syndrome.
	Wait, am I going to get canceled?
	Is this cancel?
	Is this like cancel territory?
	Chat, is this.
	I think I'm not sure.
	It's not because I'm down.
	Okay.
	Like, I'm okay.
	I would have sex with her.
	Prior to that search.
	And I.
	It seems like you would do anything because you were talking about her grandma.
	So look, I'm 304.
	There's a door hole.
	I believe in chivalry.
	I'm a very gentlemanly, chivalrous guy.
	Can we?
	Yeah, we can pull up the article.
	What?
	Sophia becomes Victoria's secret first model with Down syndrome.
	Would you be down?
	The Puerto Rican.
	Yo, chat.
	Would you?
	Yo, chat, would you, what, chat, would you chat?
	Like, would you?
	I mean, chat.
	Would you hit?
	Chat.
	One in the chat if you would hit.
	What are they saying?
	They're not saying that.
	No, she's attracted.
	No, I'm at the chat.
	What are they saying?
	Yeah.
	She's getting wins.
	One in the chat if you would.
	Two in the chat if you would not.
	No, they're saying no.
	Would you?
	He said yeah.
	No, he'd say yeah.
	He said, Yeah.
	Yeah, I'd give her a chance.
	Okay.
	I'd give her.
	She'd probably, I mean, she'd probably reject me, you know?
	She'd probably turn me down.
	Probably.
	Can you pull up a guy now?
	Is this like cancel territory?
	I don't know if this is like.
	No, you're saying someone is attracted.
	Yeah, you said I would just leave it.
	Andrew!
	Andrew.
	Okay.
	Sorry, I'm Autistic, so I feel like it's okay.
	Right?
	Do I get the autism pass?
	Well, I mean, I would have to give it to you.
	I couldn't be an ableist.
	Okay, so anyways.
	Anyways, so sorry.
	Sorry, so sorry.
	What were we talking about?
	How did we start talking about dating someone special?
	Oh my god.
	So you are dating somebody.
	Like you're smashing.
	Yes.
	When's the last time you had carnal knowledge?
	A couple days ago.
	Bruh, you said you were single.
	I'm still single.
	You said you've been single for three years.
	Okay, but I've been dating.
	We're talking about a hookup.
	Tilt your mic down just a bit.
	Oh, God.
	Yeah, that's good.
	How long have you been seeing this guy?
	10 months.
	I told you.
	So if a guy who you were attracted to you or who you were attracted to stepped to you, stepped to you, and was like, yo, I'd like to take you on a date.
	I'll absolutely go.
	So you're not exclusive.
	No, we're not dating.
	We're not together.
	You've been talking to the guy for 10 months, and you guys are smashed like three days ago.
	I mean, it's long distance.
	So.
	I mean, not long distance.
	Smashed.
	Y'all fucked three days ago.
	I mean, I'm, I mean, they live in Cali.
	I'm in here at Cali.
	Okay.
	And then, really quick, I had a question for you.
	You said you're single too, but there's like a dude in the picture.
	When's the last time you had carnal knowledge?
	Never.
	Carnal knowledge.
	What is that?
	Sex.
	Oh, never.
	P and the V. Never.
	You said you.
	Wait, you said.
	You said that you did.
	Oh, I did.
	No, she said it depends on who asks.
	I don't know what I said.
	I don't remember, but no.
	Have you had sexual intercourse?
	In my life?
	What do you mean?
	In your life?
	No, in the peril one.
	That's what she's doing.
	I mean, yes.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	When's the last time?
	Like a long time ago, actually.
	Like three weeks?
	Like a couple months.
	Stop the cow.
	Okay.
	Okay, and you're single?
	Yes.
	When's the last time you've had carnal knowledge?
	Last year.
	2023?
	Wait, can you scoot your mic that way?
	Like that way?
	Yeah.
	That's heavy, girl.
	You know how to do it.
	Yeah.
	That didn't really help, but okay.
	Look, this is what I don't understand.
	Is like, y'all say you're single, but there's like your fucking dudes.
	You're not single.
	Like, when I think single, I think there's no dude in the picture.
	Why?
	Are you single?
	I don't talk about my about that, but.
	So, are you single?
	I can neither confirm or deny.
	Okay.
	I mean, you're asking us.
	Yeah, I'm the host.
	You know, I gotta, I'm the inquisitor, kind of.
	But so, okay, that's what that's my confusion.
	Like, okay, you said you've been single for six months.
	Is there a guy currently in the picture?
	You guys having carnal knowledge?
	Yeah.
	When's the last time you saw him?
	Like three days ago.
	Three days ago.
	How long have you been seeing them?
	Some weeks.
	Wait, is this one?
	Because you're.
	Is this one of your sugar daddies?
	Yeah, that looks like a yes from Brie.
	No, why?
	What did you say yes?
	I didn't say yes.
	Yeah, I said.
	Your face gave the way.
	So it's one of your sugar daddies.
	Because you got a sugar daddy, right?
	No, I don't have a sugar daddy.
	I had sugar daddy.
	Oh, you had plural sugar daddies.
	Okay.
	Well, in your notes here.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me read your notes really quick.
	Amelia, you think having a man is a dead mission unless they are giving you money?
	This is what you wrote.
	So, this is what you wrote.
	I think having a man is a dead mission unless they are giving me their money.
	That's what you wrote.
	It's a dead mission.
	Speaking of the money.
	What does dead mission mean?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm too white.
	I don't know these terms.
	What is a dead mission?
	A dead mission means like it's pointless.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you have a, I'm just curious, do you have a type?
	Why do you ask that?
	You ever get, like, you ever meet a guy and you're like, ah, this guy dates Asian women.
	Men have that same.
	You date black guys.
	No.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I totally got that wrong.
	I did get it wrong.
	You know, there's like a what you do.
	I like old white men suits.
	No, for money, but like for love.
	For love and for sex.
	No, for love.
	She goes, you date old white men for love.
	No, okay.
	If you, when you're at the club, do you go to the club?
	Yeah.
	She's going to go after the old white man.
	Brie, how long have you guys been friends?
	For a couple months now, and we go.
	Well, what's her type?
	Bro, old white man.
	Really?
	With money.
	Not even just to, like, she's talking about, like, if she would have canceled again for the, oh my God.
	Like you.
	He's like a suit.
	Put on a suit and you could talk.
	And we could talk.
	First off, I'm not that old.
	Yeah, when you say old, 35.
	You're a lot older than me.
	Yeah, but when you say old, I'm thinking like 50, 40s.
	You're damn near 40.
	I'm halfway to 40.
	Damn nearly.
	Halfway to 40.
	Not damn near 40.
	Not halfway.
	I'm halfway.
	Halfway to 40 is 40.
	Halfway to 40 is 20.
	No.
	30 to 40.
	Imagine.
	Wait a minute.
	No, halfway.
	From 30.
	Hang on.
	I think that that's a fair comparison.
	How old did you say you were?
	Me?
	21.
	Yeah.
	21.
	Okay.
	So I'm halfway to 40.
	Then you're only a few years away from the end of your childbearing years, I guess.
	Oh, she's got time.
	I have time.
	Yeah.
	She's 21.
	If I'm 30, 25.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, how much time do you think you have?
	I have at least 15 years.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	How many women?
	How many children?
	How many children at 31 do you think you're going to be cranking out in 10 years?
	Many.
	You can.
	My mom has daycares.
	We just had a parent give birth a while.
	This was a long time ago, but she gave birth at like 52.
	So women are able to, especially with IVF and things like that, to conceive that at a later age.
	It's very rare.
	Very rare.
	But I don't think that it's.
	Like for 35.
	Wait, you should take him donated to $100.
	Yo, I can't understand why girl six would go on a farmer dating show given her wild views.
	It's almost like she thinks she should be a famous actress trying to get her start.
	What a fraud.
	Can somebody go get a hiccup?
	Here, wait.
	What a fraud.
	Wait.
	I'm not an actress.
	It's like a crunchy potato.
	It's a kick.
	Can you just get one in a store?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can somebody run it?
	Desmond, can you get me a jicama?
	No, I can't.
	Bruh.
	Go find me a jicama, bruh.
	I just want to let you know, real quick, the chance of a woman over 50 getting pregnant naturally It's less than 1%.
	Can happen, though.
	How about over it?
	Yeah, I know, I know, but nobody ever just said that.
	But I said 15 years, so that would be 30 years.
	Hang on, hang on.
	But when I say, well, at 50, it's very rare.
	That is very, very, very rare.
	So very rare.
	What ages, if you had to guess that women were the most fertile, would be the ages that you would guess are the most fertile?
	20, 20 to 35.
	No, 100 to 120.
	Realistically, not 90-year-old Cambodian women.
	It's puberty, hobby puberty.
	16 and 25.
	I know that.
	I'm trying to have.
	Oh, most fertile?
	16 and 23, 25.
	It would be late teens and your early 20s.
	Yeah.
	Early 20s.
	That's when you're going to be.
	So you're saying somewhere around 18 to about 27.
	Those are your most fertile years.
	Some dispute that says 26.
	I'm just being charitable.
	27.
	You're 21.
	If Brian is halfway to being an old man at the whopping age of 40, then you, my dear, are very close to being an old maid at just seven years before your child.
	Most of your best childbearing years are behind you.
	I just wanted to point that out.
	He's not old.
	He's just older than me.
	Yeah.
	Did that guy pay for that?
	To tell me that?
	Because you could pay me to tell me more.
	Okay, just letting you know.
	Cash out.
	Can I pay my cash out?
	Modest Hakeem were donated $200.
	Brixon, you need to change the wording in the descriptions.
	Now that you don't allow insights, you could be sued for false advertising and you would lose.
	I don't wish that for you, just a heads up.
	He's so nice.
	Hickema, thank you, man.
	Yeah, sorry for the delay there on pulling up your TTS.
	It's just a temporary thing, but there's kind of like some we've had to employ some moderation controls just because people have been like trying to do some funny business.
	I should probably just change that, but it was an oversight.
	I try to get to them as quickly as possible, but we just have to be a little cautious just now because there's some people doing some little funny business when it comes to the TTS.
	So we'll probably revert it back a bit.
	I mean, let's be real too.
	Nobody's going to sue Brian because he didn't get to their text-to-chat message quick enough.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's ridiculous.
	But I do, it's really good to see you back in the chat.
	How do you pronounce it?
	Hickey.
	Hickema.
	It's good to see you back in the chat, man.
	I do apologize for the delay on some of the TTSs.
	I try to get to them as quick as possible.
	But if it was up to me, I'd just go back to how it was.
	But there's been some concerns recently just for the safety of the panelists and the staff and everybody.
	I have to do a bit of a moderation delay on these, but I'm going to get a jicama.
	Can somebody get me a freaking, can you just, anyways, whatever.
	I'll find it.
	I'll probably order it off Amazon.
	I'm door dashing it right now.
	Going back to you.
	So you said, I think having a man is a dead mission unless they're giving me their money.
	So let's explore that.
	What does that mean?
	That means I want your money.
	Please.
	And thank you.
	How does that look like?
	So, like, I ask them for their money when I talk to them.
	So, like, sugar daddies.
	Yeah.
	How many different sugar daddies have you had total?
	I don't know the number.
	More than 20?
	I don't know the number.
	More than 100?
	Girl.
	Yeah.
	Brie, come on.
	Spill the beans.
	Come on, Brie.
	More than 20?
	Maybe.
	More than 100?
	No, no.
	No, okay.
	You said, I had a Gly.
	You had a guy fly you out, and he gave you $13,000 to go shopping and stay for three days.
	Yeah.
	And you went and booked a flight back home the same day.
	But the agreement was for three days.
	Yeah.
	Did you hit?
	No.
	Was that the plan?
	I went there.
	Yeah.
	I took his money and I left.
	Damn.
	Hold up.
	Stop it.
	Get some help.
	Damn.
	So you hustled him.
	Have you hustled other guys?
	Yeah, I've got 20K three times.
	You got 20K three times from the same guy or different guy?
	Different guys.
	20, like one payment, 20k?
	No, one of them was three payments.
	One of them was one payment, and the other one was one payment.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What are you doing?
	I'm rocking your shoe.
	I don't.
	So, I'm curious.
	So, wait, do you want to get in on this?
	No, unfortunately, I can't.
	I'm extremely curious.
	So, can I sell it?
	I'll sell it for you.
	Like, whatever she's teaching her advertisements.
	So, wait, a couple questions here.
	What's the most like a one-time payment?
	What's the biggest one-time payment you've ever gotten?
	20K.
	20K?
	Nothing more than that.
	Okay.
	From one guy in total.
	So maybe one of these guys who gave you 20K, he also gave you 5K this day, 10K this day, whatever.
	What's the most one guy has given you?
	20K.
	Oh, the most they've given me in total?
	So if you knew this guy for months in total.
	20K.
	I don't really like keep the relationship going that far.
	I just cut it.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I feel like that'd be counter if your goal is to finesse as much money as possible.
	Wouldn't you just like?
	Yeah, but I get tired.
	You get tired of scamming them?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my gosh.
	But then you just scam somebody else, so you're still scamming.
	I know, but I get tired of one of them.
	I got to move on to somebody else.
	But you're not even attracted to them.
	You don't even want to fuck them.
	So what's the matter?
	Sometimes I'm attracted.
	So you fuck them for money?
	No.
	You've never slept with any of them?
	Got you, bitch!
	Next question.
	Next question.
	I think that's a yes, but okay.
	Total.
	Total.
	From all the men.
	How much have you?
	Holy mark.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Wait, did you say you had a bunch of cash?
	Yeah.
	Do you want to say it?
	Wait, pull it out.
	Pull it out.
	Never say that to a guy, by the way.
	You can never say it.
	Show your wallet.
	No, yes.
	Holy.
	Damn, son.
	That's a lot of ones.
	No, that's hundreds.
	Wait, hold on.
	That's hundreds.
	Yo, yo, wait, wait.
	Don't play over.
	Wait, hold on.
	They can't see.
	They can't see.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I gotta take the reverse.
	That's a fuck ton of cash.
	Damn.
	Can I have that?
	Well, I do see a lot of ones, surprisingly.
	Like, especially at the bottom.
	No, I think it's 100.
	Oh, bro.
	Drop it.
	Start doing them.
	Start doing them.
	It's literally all hundreds.
	Holy shit.
	Please.
	Will you sell drugs too?
	No.
	No.
	I'm just carrying this in your purse.
	Can I have?
	Can you give me just one of those hundreds?
	Just throw me a hundred.
	Give me a hundred.
	How about you throw me a hundred?
	I'm not throwing you a hundred.
	I'll give you here.
	Tell you what.
	Watch this.
	Babe.
	Babe.
	Oh, babe.
	Babe.
	Babe.
	Oh, it should be a total bank.
	So you have to do it.
	You have to do the best.
	Check this out.
	Let's get the split going.
	Get the split going.
	Get the split.
	Scuffed.
	Oh, there we go.
	Double scuffed?
	Triple scuffed.
	Hey, what the fuck, bro?
	They're fighting over it, Brian.
	It's a feeding frenzy.
	They're fighting over it.
	They're going to kill each other over it, Brian.
	gotta take control take control before they it's like throwing casino chips on the ground Just leave all that money on the ground.
	That's mine now.
	Okay, I got you.
	Okay.
	Here, I will give you a $2 bill for one of those hundreds.
	Do you know how much a $2 bill is worth?
	Yeah, do you have any idea how much a $2 bill is worth?
	A real one?
	Yeah, I know about money.
	Here, do you want to trade?
	Just go to the bank.
	I'll sign it too.
	Then it's worth even more.
	Then it's worth even more.
	You want to do the trade?
	Okay.
	No.
	All right.
	You won't do it.
	Really?
	You want to?
	How would I do that?
	You're like one of those people.
	Have you ever seen those videos of the people who walk down?
	They're like, will you take a one-ounce or two for a 20?
	Two for 20.
	That's fair.
	You're trying to make money off me?
	You're trying to make money.
	No, I'm trying to scam the scammer.
	I'm scamming the scammer.
	No, no, this is all wrong.
	Have you ever seen those videos?
	A guy will walk down the street.
	He'll have a one-ounce gold coin in a Snickers bar.
	And he'll walk over to people and be like, Would you rather have this one ounce gold coin or this Snickers bar?
	And they always choose the Snickers bar because they don't know the value of something.
	That's a legitimate $2 bill.
	It's a legitimate bill.
	Like a legitimate, an actual $2 bill.
	Legitimate $2 bill.
	How about $2 for $20?
	That's fair, right?
	Look at that phone.
	It's the same thing.
	They're like, okay, how about they do the same thing?
	They reduce it.
	And they're like, well, how about a half a gold coin to this little piece of Hershey's chocolate?
	And they still take the piece of Hershey's shit.
	It's fucking crazy to me.
	That's a legitimate, that's a real $2 bill.
	That's a real.
	I'm like, go to the bank, get some $2.
	Yeah, I have a $2 bill.
	My mom has $2 billion.
	I was going to say how much.
	it's okay um and that's money that was given to you by a straight cash I asked for cash.
	I don't want Chanel bags.
	You want the cash.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Or YSO bags.
	You know, I want.
	So you do like escorting?
	No.
	It's like the same, isn't it?
	No.
	Do you just give her money because she's pretty?
	I just, yeah, like, I was walking the other day.
	Somebody handed me $300 because I was pretty.
	You know, there's this phenomenon in Japan.
	I don't know if you guys, so a lot of, there's the sex industry is, I don't know the exact status in Japan, but it's like kind of legal, I guess.
	Like, but it's also, I don't know what the exact status of it is.
	But a lot of these female prostitutes, they end up spending a lot.
	A lot of them.
	Are you?
	Can you stop spending a lot of money?
	A lot of these female prostitutes in Japan spend their money on what Japanese hosts.
	And so they get money from men for sex, and then they give it to essentially male sex workers for emotional connection and attention.
	Is that what you're trying to do?
	I think you should do that.
	No, no, no.
	This is the full circle.
	This is full circle here.
	I think you want to do some boss shit.
	You want to do some boss shit?
	You give me the whole stack and you're like, I got more.
	Oh, I do got more.
	Yeah, you give me the whole stack of cash right now.
	And I don't know.
	You want to be degraded?
	I can degrade you.
	Is that your thing?
	Oh, my God.
	Give me the stack.
	You match it.
	You match my stack.
	Like, watch your own stack.
	Stack.
	You match my stack.
	Do you want money spreads?
	Bro, I got crypto.
	I don't fuck with cash.
	Let's do money spreads together.
	Bro, I just, I just got fucking, what is it, 50% on Doge or some shit?
	Shit, bro.
	That's more.
	The amount, here, I'll tell you this much.
	I made more in Doge.
	Hold on.
	I made whatever you got there, I made more in Doge in the past three days doing nothing than whatever the fuck you got there, huh?
	I said that's probably a day for her.
	Congratulations.
	How many dicks are you?
	Oh, sorry, my bad.
	Isn't that what you do?
	No.
	No.
	You just, they just give it for free.
	You can do that, yes.
	In order to give you on dates.
	Like, they'll give me $1,000 to go on a date.
	Wait, so total, how much have you made?
	In total?
	Yeah.
	A million dollars.
	At 21?
	Yes.
	Life on easy mode.
	Life on easy mode.
	Do you have a brother?
	No.
	No, bro?
	Okay.
	Like, if you did have a brother, even if he was like doing gay for pay, he couldn't make that much money.
	You know what I mean?
	Y'all got life on easy mode, man.
	That's crazy.
	She's 21.
	She's made claims.
	Sometimes y'all exaggerate how much you make.
	What about 10 bands?
	I just put about my 30 bands, so and reporting my brains today.
	We need a counting machine.
	I don't know if it's.
	I know.
	That's counting right now.
	I should put a man test this.
	Darman test her on.
	And Dargen tests me.
	Okay.
	Look, I'm just saying, I've had some women come on the show who are involved in sex work.
	And as a kind of full circle thing, it's actually this cathartic experience.
	She's still picking up.
	It can be a really, because as a sex worker, you do tend to go through difficult things.
	And to be reverse sex worked, it can be a very cathartic thing to actually give money.
	To give your money to a strong pimp.
	Okay.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm just saying the most R slurred shit.
	My bad.
	I think it would be really cathartic for you and it'd be a lot of healing on your journey to actually just hand over all that money to me so that you can heal.
	And I will spend, I will do a Skype call with you.
	Is there still Skype?
	I don't know.
	I will do one hour of Skype calls to give you.
	Well, I don't know, Brian.
	I got an easier thing here, right?
	What's up?
	So if you are a good judge at how much is there, you should do a double or nothing bet.
	Meaning, if you can guess just within like 3K of what is there, and that is what is there, then you get it all.
	Or she gets double back.
	Oh, damn.
	Girl, you can.
	I would date that.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I can't.
	That's crazy.
	I can't tell.
	You can't tell.
	I can't tell.
	I thought you had money.
	It's over 10K for sure.
	I don't know.
	I'm thinking.
	I don't know.
	There's a lot of ones.
	There's a couple ones in there.
	The rest are all.
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	I'm not a rapper.
	I don't know what cash like that looks like.
	I don't know how to do math.
	What?
	She has more than on that.
	We do have a chat here from Nick here.
	Nick donated $200.
	Born with cerebral palsy, financially well off, physically independent.
	W. Instantly seen as tardied by women.
	Never given a chance to prove myself.
	You're missing out.
	I believe you, Nick.
	Nick.
	Nick, you're dope.
	Look, man.
	I pray for you.
	She dates people special people, so she melons will give you a chance.
	I would look your way.
	Everyone deserves it.
	Nick, don't you need a strong, independent black woman in your life, Nick.
	Wait, it's okay.
	Oh, really quick.
	Let's do Twitch, then we'll come back to the notes.
	Guys, first shout out of the night here.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
	Also, if you have Amazon Prime, here's what you do, guys.
	Do it right now.
	Go to your Amazon Prime, set up a Twitch account.
	You can link your Amazon Prime account to your Twitch.
	Oh, get, close that.
	Close that.
	Oh, it's my birthday too.
	That was for me.
	Link it up.
	You can drop a Prime sub.
	You can drop a Prime sub.
	And you can do it before, you know, it doesn't have to be while we're live.
	You can do it when we're not live.
	Also, it's been 30 minutes since we got a Prime.
	I think it's bugged, boys.
	Twitch is bugging out.
	Can you guys?
	It's bugged, boys.
	Can somebody check if a, if the, check if it's Primes checking.
	Check the Primes.
	Prime the checks.
	Uh, yo, Dead Kennedy, thank you so much for the Prime Man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Guys, can you get us to 94,500 followers?
	That we need 300 followers.
	Get us to 94,500 followers before the end of the stream.
	Evil Doer, thank you so much for the Prime Man.
	Really appreciate it.
	And then, guys, you also have to check out our Discord.
	That's discord.gg/slash whatever.
	Discord.gg slash whatever.
	I don't know if you guys have been playing the bingo.
	Pull that up.
	Exile that.
	Show us the exile that behind the scenes.
	First, just go to the all right, guys.
	We post all the BTS.
	We post BTS.
	If there's like a rage quit or kick out, whatever.
	We post that in the Discord.
	That's discord.gg slash whatever.
	Hit wall of whatever.
	And then we got, we, I got a, I created the bingo thing.
	So we, if you guys want to play bingo, whatever bingo while we're, you know, playing the game, there's all that.
	So be sure to check that out.
	That's discord.gg slash whatever.
	Okay.
	You also said you think marriage is pointless because it's just girls trying to take all the man's money and 50% ends in divorce.
	Yeah.
	I don't believe in marriage.
	But I thought you're just like you said, I think having a man is a dead mission unless they're giving me their money.
	Wouldn't that be a really good way to get their money is to marry them and divorce them?
	Yeah, but like if I marry somebody, it's going to be because I love them.
	So that's why.
	Would you marry a broke guy?
	No.
	Okay.
	Cool, I guess.
	But you don't want to get married.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Do you want to get married?
	Nope.
	Well, it sounds like you guys have a lot in common.
	That does seem like a bunch of people.
	First, Brian, Brian, you dog, Brian.
	Okay, well, I do, real quick, I do have to say happy birthday to the birthday girl.
	Thank you for coming on whatever this evening.
	Very kind of you.
	Happy birthday to you.
	Salute.
	I did ring liquor.
	I should take a shot.
	Yeah, you're a shot.
	I mean, my cup is empty.
	You want to get it?
	Now, can I request a simple favor from the panel?
	I finally got my 100K subscriber.
	Hey, 100k.
	I got it.
	It's here.
	Right?
	And I wonder if you guys can say congratulations in unison to the Crucible so I can clip it.
	On three.
	You ready?
	So the whole phrase, congratulations.
	Yeah, the whole all of them.
	Congratulations, Crucible, on 100K.
	Three, two, one.
	Congratulations, Crucible.
	100K.
	100K.
	See, I'll show you.
	You guys, that was horrible.
	That was dark.
	Okay, okay, hang on.
	Take two.
	As exuberant, as exuberant as you can make it.
	Three.
	Wait, their ears are going to bleed.
	Congratulations.
	Don't yell into the mic, but bell, but be, you know.
	Okay, so congratulations to the crucible.
	Congratulations to the crucible on 100k.
	Or 100k.
	On 100k.
	And the Greek Orthodox Church on 100K.
	Congratulations to the Crucible on 100K, right?
	You guys got this.
	Okay.
	Three, two, one.
	Go.
	Congratulations.
	On 100K.
	On 100K.
	And to this nation, under God.
	Under One Nation.
	Under One Nation.
	For Will It Stand.
	Amen.
	Amen.
	Okay.
	You know, you know, the two on the right, they didn't even say congratulations.
	Wow.
	What a bunch of fucking rude.
	What a bunch of brats.
	You didn't even say it.
	Brude.
	Fucking brats.
	Unbelievable.
	You know, I just want to let you know that just last month, my wife made double the cash that you have in your purse on her book.
	And you know what I did?
	I spent it on a Spaz shotgun.
	And then I went and I got myself a Draco because I couldn't help myself.
	And then on top of that, I got myself a PSB.
	I took her money.
	I took her money, brat.
	I took it and I went and I bought guns because that's what I, because it was just fun.
	Nice.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah.
	Yo, Hiccama.
	Thank you.
	Monas take him or donated $200.
	I disagree with Andrew.
	I think deranged people are obviously out to get you.
	Hence the TTS restriction also.
	If you eat take him on stream, I will 100% donate for popping champagne if I'm watching.
	Okay, let me.
	I'm googling.
	I was.
	Oh, shit.
	I can order it on DoorDash.
	Wait, how many champagne pots if everybody is just one per?
	Is it just me?
	Because it's only a dollar per.
	So I gotta order like.
	How many will you do if it's like everybody here like can eat a potato?
	Hello?
	Okay.
	Cool.
	Good talk.
	All right.
	Okay, back to the notes.
	Bri.
	Brie, I gotta ask you.
	You're out of the industry.
	Yes.
	You're out of the industry.
	Out.
	Can you tell us?
	Look, you're out.
	You have no loyalty to it, I think.
	No.
	What's the dark secrets?
	Most of the girls are extremely lost and depressed and don't know how to get out and think that there's no other option.
	That's the dark secret.
	Most of the girls.
	I was hoping for something interesting.
	Most of the girls just don't know how to get out.
	Um, okay, here's a dark secret.
	Dark secrets, like the nitty-gritty.
	Okay, every girl on OnlyFans is not on her OnlyFans.
	It's obviously chatters that are from India and there's some like 30-year-old Indian men that are chatting for them.
	And they're like, hey, babe, want to see me?
	And the guys are like, oh my God, she's talking to me.
	And it's no, it's some Indian guy.
	Every single girl.
	Doesn't matter what she says on her profile.
	It doesn't matter what.
	Like she's like, oh, yeah, I do it all myself.
	I don't have chat.
	That's a lie.
	She has chatters.
	What are they called?
	Chatters.
	And you give them like 20 to 50% of what you make.
	Damn.
	And you give OF 20%.
	So you're really only making like 30%.
	And it's more like the more successful she is, the more likely, right, that she is to get out.
	Oh, if she's successful, 100%.
	She's like got two subscribers, and it's probably her.
	But if she has over 100, it's not her.
	100% more than like so more than 100 subscribers on OF.
	So if she has more than 10,000 followers, it's not her.
	She has more than 5,000 followers.
	It's still probably not her.
	On OF or like a different, like Instagram?
	On Instagram.
	Okay.
	Instagram.
	And is it through like it's through the management company?
	The management does everything.
	Because could you have a type or without a management, right?
	Yes, you can get chatters here.
	So most of these girls have like a management company.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	They just prey on young girls and say, give me your money, please.
	We'll make you so much money, but you really could have made more.
	Did you have management?
	Yeah.
	My whole time since I was 18.
	Was it always one company or did you switch?
	No, I switched like 10 times.
	There's so many.
	Aren't some of them pretty sketchy?
	Yeah, there's hundreds of them.
	They make contracts that are really hard to get out of.
	The girls feel stuck.
	They don't know how to get out because the contracts are really poorly written.
	So now you know.
	Gotta be careful.
	Yeah.
	Or you could just not do OnlyFans.
	That would be ideal.
	Any other intel?
	Any other T, any other scoop?
	Scoop?
	Scoop.
	The hot scoop.
	Some girls now are using AI for their photos.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	AI a lot is becoming very so they're even doing voice messaging.
	So the companies will like take your voice and then they'll send out voice messages as if they're you so it's even more believable.
	It's crazy.
	And then wait, going around the table, does anybody else here have OnlyFans?
	You have OnlyFans, right?
	You've never done it.
	Never done it.
	Never done it.
	Okay.
	You sure Rise of them all have girls?
	We got two here.
	These two right here.
	She doesn't do OF.
	No, her.
	Mellons.
	Hi.
	Oh.
	Who else?
	Yeah.
	No, just you two.
	I don't do OFF.
	Well, you used to, I mean.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Well, she's the only one who currently does the OF.
	Okay, let's see.
	Other notes here.
	Christine.
	What?
	Is it Kristen or Christine?
	Christine.
	Christine.
	Your current boyfriend is my ex-close friend.
	Wait, what?
	Oh.
	What happened?
	I don't even know why I wrote that.
	You did, though.
	I know.
	My current boyfriend I met through an ex-best friend.
	And she, like, tried to break us up.
	Essentially, we're not no longer friends.
	She actually does OF.
	Oh, so, okay, your ex-friend set you up with your current boyfriend and she was trying to hit.
	She was like, like, interested as having him on her roster.
	Wait, having him?
	On her roster.
	She has a roster.
	You know?
	Oh, throw her under the bus.
	Tell us about the roster.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how her roster worked, but she just had like a few guys that she would like to the table.
	Skin to the table.
	Sorry.
	That would like, you know, she was interested in it.
	How big was it?
	Was she a strumpet?
	Like, five.
	She's like, fucking five dudes at the same time?
	I don't know about the same time, but.
	Well, like, say, in a month period.
	Yeah.
	She'd be smashing.
	Probably.
	Is that how you're in LA, right?
	I'm in LA.
	Is that how a lot of ladies move?
	They got like five dudes they're fucking in a given month?
	Um, I wouldn't say most of my friends are like that, but she was like, I think a little bit more like desperate.
	Desperate.
	Yeah.
	I'm just going to throw her under the bus because I hate her now, but.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She was pretty desperate.
	And she was like trying to find someone, but like also just like throwing herself at her.
	So she was trying to steal your boyfriend, basically.
	She was interested in having him as an option.
	And we met on a friend's giving party that we threw.
	And then we just started talking.
	And then she was like trying to.
	Like anytime we would hang out, she would want to be there.
	Right.
	And she wouldn't let me like.
	She would always want to make the plans for all three of us to hang out.
	Okay.
	And like control this, like both of us.
	Okay.
	It was really weird.
	Your next note here, you said men not being decisive, feminine men.
	What do you want to talk about on that?
	For that, I was, I don't know, just like guys that aren't like chivalrous, I guess, in a way.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sure.
	I don't know.
	We can, someone else can, like, bring up their opinion.
	What was it?
	Your boyfriend voted for who?
	These guys that are like feminists.
	Wait, who did your boyfriend vote for?
	Harris.
	So your boyfriend?
	No.
	Oh, so society.
	Did I say that?
	I feel like, no.
	My bad.
	I feel like I shouldn't talk about the politics because I think everybody here is like Trump supportive.
	No, it's okay.
	No.
	It's okay.
	No.
	She's trained.
	She's not.
	This girl's not Trump trained.
	Okay, yeah.
	Neutral.
	Neutral.
	Okay.
	And then, let's see, hold on.
	I'm ordering some kickamic.
	Yep, that's right.
	Get me some hiccuma.
	Okay.
	Okay, your other thing was who pays for what in a relationship?
	Modern versus traditional values.
	Yeah.
	So what's the dynamic with your boyfriend?
	70-30.
	Wait, so I'm curious, explain how that became the case.
	I don't know.
	I just, that's just like a number that I kind of just threw in the.
	Was that what it is?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Definitely.
	In what direction?
	He's 70.
	I'm 30.
	Okay.
	You're 27, right?
	Yeah.
	How old is he?
	32.
	Okay.
	Does he outearn you?
	Yeah.
	In that sort of proportion?
	I would say.
	What's he do for work?
	He works at SpaceX.
	Yeah.
	They make good money.
	And he voted for.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He's very liberal.
	I don't know.
	Oh, okay.
	That's fine.
	And so he's an engineer or?
	Like quality assurance.
	Okay.
	He makes six figures, I'm assuming.
	Okay.
	Do you make six figures?
	Almost.
	Okay.
	Does he earn twice as much as you do?
	No, I would say like 70-30.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So when you guys have been dating for eight months, who pays for dates?
	I would say he does more often.
	I've like you paid one time.
	You paid one time, right?
	Like one out of five, I would say he pays like you know what I mean?
	Like he would.
	But that's not 70-30.
	No, but like other things.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But like on other things.
	Do you guys live together?
	We do.
	So what's the distribution for rent?
	He does like 67 him and then 33 me.
	Wait, what?
	60.
	7% him.
	Like two-thirds he pays for and then a third I pay for.
	Okay, so you do contribute to the rent?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I don't like to not cover anything.
	I don't think it's like to me, that's not.
	But is he willing to pay for the whole thing?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	what do you think about this she is paying rent do you think this is bs Wait, what did you say?
	You were just zoned out looking at these on the screen or some shit.
	Oh, look at my, they look so good.
	Check them out.
	I was looking at myself.
	I was like, no, like contributing in the relationship.
	Okay, so she does 70-30.
	I like to contribute in my relationships.
	Oh, you like to?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I don't like to.
	Do you think she's wrong?
	I don't think you need to.
	Yeah.
	I don't think I need to, but I think I want to just because it's, I don't know.
	That's, it's more like about the equality, you know?
	And you said, okay, you said modern versus traditional values.
	Yeah.
	How do you categorize yourself?
	Are you a modern woman?
	Are you traditional?
	Somewhere in between.
	Like in between.
	In between.
	In between.
	Okay.
	So in what ways are you traditional?
	Like I like the chivalry.
	I like a man driving and being a gentleman.
	Okay.
	You know.
	But.
	But I don't think he needs to do everything.
	I like to contribute and I like to be, you know, a gentlewoman.
	Melons, I'm pretty sure, I guess skipping to your notes here, Melons, you had a position on the who pays thing.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	Okay.
	It just depends on the dynamic of the relationship.
	A 50-50.
	Then you have 70-30.
	It just depends on what you agree upon, where you are financially.
	And if you're one of those, you know, chivalry-filled men who want to pay everything, then it's like, okay, go, go ahead, daddy.
	You know, so it just depends.
	Well, you said in your notes, being forced to pay after being asked out.
	Right.
	So that was one of my dating stories, right?
	Date stories.
	Yeah.
	So I was getting my car fixed at a mechanic shop, and someone else was there, this older guy.
	And he was like, oh, you're so beautiful.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I want to take you out, pick you anywhere you want to go.
	I'll pay for it.
	I just want to see you.
	Mind you, he's a stranger.
	Mind you, after I get my car fixed, I'm going home to my bed.
	I don't have to go out.
	But because the way he asked was, you know, nice and persistent, and it's a free meal anywhere I want, absolutely, I'm going to take the offer.
	And it's public.
	So I didn't think there was an issue.
	So fast forward, I meet him at like a seafood restaurant.
	And I literally ordered like one thing, like a whole bag.
	I'm not sure if you're familiar with, you know, the seafood boils, but I ordered a bag of like a whole plethora of things.
	And we literally shared like the bag of food.
	I didn't get my own food.
	And after all that, the check comes and he sees the bill.
	He's like, man, man, these women just want to date people for money.
	They think meals are free.
	And I was just like, you asked me here, sir.
	Wait, so just so I understand, you just ordered a fuck tongue of food.
	Is that what happened?
	We talked about it.
	So I ordered one order.
	I was like, do you like mussels?
	Okay, we'll get muscles.
	Do you like shrimp?
	Okay, we'll get shrimp.
	Do you like potatoes?
	Because we're sharing it.
	So I like snow crabs.
	So that was in the bag.
	And that day?
	Me?
	Like, did you not have breakfast or lunch?
	You know, I'm a girl who eats.
	So I did.
	I probably did eat earlier in the day for sure.
	But yeah, he was just kind of annoyed with the bill.
	And I was like, honey, I bring my purse and I bring my debit card.
	If you need to split it, we can split it.
	I'm like, I don't come out empty-handed.
	Was there a second date?
	Absolutely not.
	He left.
	He threw half the money on the table.
	It was like $100, like $100.
	And he just, he basically threw $50 on the table and walked out.
	Okay.
	And I just finished my little drink, ordered another one because, you know, I'm able to do that.
	And he was just upset, and I thought that was crazy.
	Wait, is this different than the he wanted a split?
	Is that the different story?
	I gave different dating stories.
	So you said paying for date when he wanted to split.
	So that one was a different story.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I was going out.
	Wait, sorry, going back to the last one.
	You said this guy asked you out and he practically begged you to go to dinner.
	And when the check came, he was pissed and he made you pay off.
	Yeah.
	That's it, simple as I am.
	And then the.
	Is there an interesting story with the split bill one or is it not really?
	Because I can.
	No, I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory.
	Okay.
	So.
	Let's see.
	You said.
	If the guy has to ask to split the bill, I'd rather pay for everything.
	Sure.
	You said there's a disagreement that you have with the host, the stigma that the show is not about slute shaming.
	Yeah.
	Would you care to elaborate?
	I mean, I feel like you touch a lot of topics that are current events, mainstream events, political events.
	So, but I feel like the gist of it, in some episodes, the majority of the women that you invite on here are OF girls or women that participate in sex work.
	And I feel like that's the biggest thing that you monetize on.
	And the conversation.
	Most of the women who are on here are not OF girls.
	Some of the episodes, I was saying majority of some of the episodes.
	Or there are more of them.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, I mean, really quick, I'll just answer to that.
	So we actually did an analysis of all the guests we've ever had on the show.
	And less than 20% of our guests have been involved in sex work.
	So, and I mean, looking at this specific panel here, well, I mean, you're kind of involved in sex work, but you're, I don't know if you don't do OF, but you're sort of doing sex work.
	Right.
	Kind of with the sugar daddy shit.
	But I mean, you're the only OnlyFans girl here.
	Wait, wait.
	What do you mean?
	Do you sleep with any of the guys who give you money?
	No, it's what I'm saying.
	Never?
	No.
	No.
	Not really.
	Get was.
	What does not really mean, though?
	Damn, she's hungry.
	She wants to.
	She wants to.
	She's hungry.
	If I like you.
	And what does not really mean?
	Crazy.
	Some hiccups are crazy.
	If I like them.
	I got you, boo.
	Well, what is it?
	Wait, if you like them, is it generally convenient that it happens to be that you like guys who give you lots of money?
	I would say out of like 500, it'll be like three.
	500?
	Yeah.
	There's been 500 guys who've given you money.
	You made a mail.
	It's over 9,000!
	Okay.
	So here.
	What's your disagreement or whatever?
	Right.
	So when I said OF, it was just the umbrella of sex work, right?
	So, because what I said was slut shaming, like the stigmas, you know.
	So there's a lot of things that can take part into that, whether it's doing OF, whether it's having a high body count, whether it's whatever.
	It's like that is amplified.
	You know, those girls get the most backlash from you and Andrew.
	and I feel like that's the biggest thing, the big hurrah that you guys enjoy because it's more entertaining, and it's just...
	They don't get the most amount of...
	Well, I see what you're saying.
	So to just steel man this and make sure I got it right, the OnlyFans girls who are on the show, they get the most amount of backlash and therefore we monetize them the most because those are the clips that go viral the most.
	Right.
	Okay, yeah, that's incorrect though.
	And so just to kind of express this to you, I actually debate more with other denominations of Christians, especially former sex worker Christians, than I do with them.
	Hang on.
	Let me look.
	Can I at least finish my engagement with her?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, Princess.
	Can we put the camera right on you and we'll make sure that you talk and I'll just be quiet.
	So anyway, back to where I was before I was so rudely interrupted.
	Rude.
	Just very, very quickly, I actually get into more debates about politics and I get into more debates about alternative Christian faiths, things like this, than I actually do with OnlyFans Girls about OF.
	And the reason is, is because, and I'm just going to be completely blunt and honest with you.
	Most of them don't even understand what I'm saying.
	Right.
	Literally, they don't even understand what I'm talking about.
	And I try to dumb it down, dumb it down, dumb it, and they still don't understand what I'm talking about.
	So those don't make for very good viral clips, right?
	Okay, I mean, it was one of the things I disagreed on.
	Wait, so can you be a bit more precise?
	What do you disagree on?
	I mean, so what was the statement?
	So yeah, you wrote the stigma that the show is not about slut shaming.
	So is the disagreement that we claim that we don't slut shame, or is the disagreement that you object to the perceived or alleged slut shaming that occurs?
	The second thing you said.
	Okay.
	So wait, a couple questions for you, then I'll pass it back to Andrew.
	Do you think hookup culture is good or bad?
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	I think are you happy with the current state of dating right now?
	No.
	Okay.
	Absent making something illegal, how do we socially enforce whether something is good or bad?
	Socially?
	Yeah, so we're obviously, I mean, I'm sure we can agree that it's very unlikely that the United States government is going to like criminalize like being a slut.
	Like they're not going to criminalize like premarital sex, right?
	Very unlikely.
	So absent government criminalization, how does a society enforce like unwanted or undesirable behavior?
	I would say as a collective coming together, for example, I use X as an example.
	Enough of Twitter.
	Yeah.
	When enough of people talk about something that in a negative way, I don't know if you've heard about the recent controversy between two adult entertainers and one of them contracting something from one of them.
	I heard about it, yeah.
	Right.
	So as a collective, people who kind of tuned into that are kind of say, oh, having unprotected sex is not, you know, ideal.
	The adult entertainment industry and would you do it socially, like OF and stuff, is not how adult entertainers who are professional do it.
	And just communicating, I guess that would get like a bandwagon of people behind something socially for them not to do it anymore.
	That's okay.
	I guess trying to arrive at the point here.
	So when I asked you if hookup culture is good or bad, you say it's bad.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So what is hookup culture?
	People engaging in casual sex.
	Right.
	So, okay, so how absent the government saying you can't have premarital sex, how else can we achieve or push back or fight against hookup culture without shaming people for engaging in this conduct that we want to stop?
	By agreeing on social networks like X that this is not yeah, we're not gonna kumbaya.
	I'm not going to kumbaya my way into like getting a woman to stop being a slut.
	Right, but you said it has to be social shaming, right?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Communicating so on a social network, whether someone will feel but you said you object, you object to the slut shaming, but right, but by your own definition, you just said hookup culture is bad.
	But you can feel so you're in favor of slut shaming, right?
	There's different things how else do we end if hookup culture bad, right?
	Would you prefer it to for there to not be a hookup culture?
	No, I think that's vital.
	Wait, hookup culture is vital.
	Like I said, I was on the fence at first, but it is bad.
	So it's bad.
	Okay, so how do we end it?
	It's one of those necessary evils.
	What do you mean necessary?
	It's not necessary.
	Because you learn a lot about.
	Wait, fucking a new person every day of the week is not vital.
	It's not.
	I'm saying the culture itself, being aware of it, you don't even have to participate in it to be aware of hookup culture and learn from it.
	I think it starts with the guy.
	Wait, hold on, but so okay.
	I think it starts with the men.
	Go ahead.
	Because you guys are able to fuck things every day, right?
	So I think us women, we're like, we're allowing that to happen.
	Well, actually, like only the top percent of men can do that.
	Most men don't have access to that.
	No, no, it's pretty easy.
	It's pretty easy.
	Disagree, but hold on.
	I think it's easier.
	We'll get to that.
	So we'll get to that.
	But that's my point.
	It's easier for women because they want to do that every day with different people.
	Don't talk about me.
	Don't talk about me.
	But I said they.
	What you're pointing at me is men's, my bad.
	It's okay.
	So first off, any single woman, every single woman, whether she's obese, whether she's extremely unattractive, has access to hookup culture.
	You can see that.
	What is that?
	Hold on, let me finish.
	What is that?
	Here's my point.
	Very few men, when I say very few, I mean percentage-wise, have access to hookup culture.
	Most men do not have access to hookup culture.
	Which means that they could get a girl for the night.
	So like, let's say here, can we agree on this?
	And I think this is actually kind of, this is conservative.
	Hookup culture would be a girl sleeping with one new guy a month.
	That's what you think hookup culture is?
	That would be 12 different sexual partners a year.
	There's women who are clearly more promiscuous than that, but I think that would be a good benchmark, right?
	Most men can't fuck a new girl every single month.
	They're fucking them every single day.
	What are you talking about?
	Men could fuck a different girl every single day and be okay.
	You just told me that you could do a Victoria's Secret with Down syndrome model.
	Hold on.
	And her grandmother.
	How is that at all relevant?
	They want to, but he can probably do that.
	So if he wants to.
	I'm not on grandma, that's for sure.
	But okay.
	No, I don't know.
	The point I'm trying to make here is that all women, every single woman has access to hookup culture.
	That's not true.
	How many women feel that?
	Can you go out and get and get that?
	That's not the question.
	What's her body count?
	No more than 120.
	How much is it?
	No more than 120.
	Oh, shit.
	120.
	You can get it.
	Okay.
	She's getting it.
	I'm not saying this to be mean.
	Her male looks equivalent does not have 120 body count.
	Her what?
	Her male looks equivalent does not have a body count of 120.
	Says who?
	Says me.
	Well, that's where it's wrong.
	Because a lot of ugly people, especially ones with like a lot of people could do that.
	What does that mean?
	I'm in my head way differently.
	I'm in my head way differently.
	A lot of people have six shooters and they're pointing them up in the air.
	They get high body count.
	Come on.
	Alien.
	Wait, no.
	So, okay.
	What do you even?
	I don't understand what you're saying.
	Well, you said, go back to what you said.
	About the 120 thing.
	Okay, so her male looks equivalent would not have a body count.
	That looks like me.
	If I was a guy.
	Do you have a brother?
	I do.
	How many brothers do you have?
	I have one.
	Do you know his body count?
	How old is he?
	He's 31 or 30.
	He's older than you.
	Does he have a higher body count than you?
	Probably not.
	I don't know if you talk about this with your bro.
	No, this is some California shit.
	In New York, in New York, there's ugly guys with a lot of good swag that are fucking shit.
	Okay, cool, but they have swag.
	How many, what percentage of men have swag?
	Around me, they do.
	What's going on around here?
	She's around her.
	What?
	Around me.
	Huh?
	Around me, they do.
	What percentage of men do you think have game or charisma or Riz or swag?
	It's like probably less than 10%.
	No.
	No, most men.
	You guys have game.
	The New Yorkers, they have game.
	At least I'm saying 75%.
	75% of guys back in New York have game.
	They do.
	That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever done.
	They do.
	They do.
	Do you get fucking 75% of men?
	Absolutely not.
	How did you get one from the other?
	What do you mean?
	If they have...
	I was on a farm in Missouri for like six months.
	Well, what makes it...
	What...
	What makes you, because you're born in New York, have more game than the rest of the country?
	I think it's because we're used to seeing so many different cultures, so we're just with the shit more.
	Like in New York City, I'm able to see all different kinds of people.
	What does that have to do with the game?
	I think it's just more of a melting pot.
	So I'm able to see Italian, Italian men.
	I'm able to see Indian, Indian men.
	I'm able to see all different kinds of genres and all or like girls admit it.
	Greek guys are hot in their own way, right?
	Black guys are hot in their own way.
	White guys are hot in their own way, right?
	So in New York, we're able to get all of it in one thing and put it in LA.
	LA should probably be similar.
	That makes sense.
	I would say.
	But you get what I'm saying.
	It's a melting pot.
	I don't get what you're saying at all, but I wouldn't say that.
	75% of guys have swagger, though.
	So in highly diverse areas, men should, by this logic, have more game.
	It's either one or the other, I think.
	Because if I go to Greece, saying find a hot guy from Greece and he's only Greek, that's pretty hot too to me.
	But in New York, when you're around all the kinds of different things, it's cool.
	It's refreshing to see other people involved in so many different things.
	I'm sorry, is New York more diverse than LA?
	I mean, I'm not.
	I don't know.
	I'm not from L.A.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	I don't think that New York is more diverse than Los Angeles.
	Are you saying that men in Los Angeles have a lot of game?
	Well, you guys are saying they don't.
	Well, I'm not saying anything.
	I'm asking you the question.
	I wouldn't know.
	I never dated anybody from LA.
	Okay, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Let me ask the question.
	If it's based on diversity, diversity equals game, because you see so many different kind of different races or whatever, different cultures, ethnicities.
	I mean, Los Angeles is about as ethnically diverse as a city can get.
	Are you saying that the men in Los Angeles then have as much game as the men in New York?
	I mean, I think it's obviously people's preference, but I'm going with New York.
	What do you guys think?
	Okay, but if it's just as diverse, then it couldn't be the diversity that gives the New Yorkers more game, right?
	That wouldn't make any sense.
	Maybe not.
	Maybe just the coast then.
	I don't think diversity have anything to do with game.
	So just like if there's an ocean, if there's an ocean closer to you, you're better at fucking women.
	There's different oceans.
	There's an Atlantic and the I know, but LA is pretty close to the Pacific, right?
	So the question is, is like, so just proximity to ocean means better at fucking women?
	It has nothing to do with the ocean.
	No.
	What does it have to do with them?
	I just think that it's good for there's sheltered people and there's people who are not sheltered.
	I'd rather be with a man that's not sheltered so much.
	That's more diverse.
	So that's just my preference.
	I'm not saying there's a right or wrong to it.
	Right.
	Okay.
	I think what we're getting at, whatever, is when you made the claim that 75% of men have good Riz, you're going off an analysis of New York and the diverse men that you've met, and you've come to the conclusion that a majority of men, because you met a majority of men in New York, have Riz.
	So basically, I think what he's saying is, well, shouldn't you be basing that based on the area of those men instead of like, if you met one black guy, right, in New York, and you're like, oh, he has good game, doesn't mean a lot more black guys have game, is what he's saying.
	He just means like that, maybe, correct me if I'm wrong, that this area, you should speak upon the area that you're referring to instead of a percentage of the entire male population is what they're saying.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	So I'll be super specific.
	Right?
	So if you make a claim, men in X area, right, they are better at humping women than men in other X area, right?
	It's like, okay, I can accept that that's true.
	But why?
	Well, it's because there's a big diverse cast of people in X area.
	That's what makes men better at humping women in X area.
	Well, then if I point to another area where there's just as much diversity, it would logically follow then that men in that same area would be just as good at humping women as they are in the other area you're talking about, right?
	Am I speaking Spanish?
	Maybe I'm speaking.
	Maybe.
	Maybe I'm speaking Spanish.
	Okay, let me dumb this down, right?
	If people are in New York are really good at fucking because there's lots of mixed race people.
	That's not what I was saying.
	Anywhere we looked, where there's mixed race people, they should be good at fucking.
	I wasn't saying that they're good at fucking.
	I said that they were good at getting fucked.
	They're good at getting it.
	Getting what?
	Pussy.
	So fucking.
	There's two different things.
	You could get it.
	Okay, I'm just like that.
	I'm saying it getting women to fuck them.
	So then, if any area where there's tons and tons of mixed race, multi-ethnic people, that means that men are fuck them, then that would mean that in every area where there was multi-ethnic race people, that men would be good at getting women to fuck them.
	It should follow, right?
	That if in one area men are really good at getting women to have sex with them because it's so diverse, then in every area that is diverse, it should follow that men are good at getting women to sleep with them.
	I guess that I was, I was just surprised, I guess, that Brian said that it's like it's not a normal thing for guys to be getting pussy easily because when in New York, they don't say that.
	I don't think.
	I don't think.
	I mean, I can't be really, I can't talk for guys.
	I think that New Yorkers say I went out and got some pussy last night.
	That's what they do.
	That's what my point is.
	Yeah, that's my point.
	That's my point.
	That's what they're saying.
	They're not saying what Brian said, saying that they're not getting it, that it's hard to get.
	It's very easy.
	No, I mean, there's tons of complaints from New Yorkers.
	So if you look at the loneliness epidemic, which is going on for men and women both, major cities are reporting it more than anything else.
	New York is New York City, definitely a major city.
	You know what I mean?
	Definitely a major city.
	And I'm guessing you're talking about New York City when you say New York, right?
	You're not talking about the whole state, right?
	Yeah.
	So if you're just talking about the city, then yeah.
	In fact, I guarantee you, if we were to look at the loneliness index, that men and women both in New York probably reported on average higher loneliness rates than most of the rest of the cities in the country, even.
	I would bet it was very, very, very high.
	Yeah, what reports?
	Well, so we would just look at the self-report or ID.
	So, like, here, let's try it out, in fact.
	Let's just type in loneliness.
	I think New York has a really high culture.
	I mean, that's really high.
	Any big city does.
	Yeah.
	Any big city city?
	Okay, so loneliness, New York City Health.
	Hang on.
	Blah, We'll just see if we can get to the raw numbers very quick.
	New York is in the top 10 states which report loneliness for men and women.
	Top 10.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So this wouldn't surprise me because it's a major, major metropolitan area, right?
	So I would actually think that the opposite was true.
	That if you were in a more homogeneous area full of people who are more like-minded, you would probably feel less lonely.
	And so it would probably be easier to actually obtain the opposite sex, I would guess.
	I think it is easier to get obtained sex from the opposite sex if it's a major city.
	There's more opportunity and options.
	Well, I mean, I think maybe you're incorrect.
	No, I think that the loneliness has to do with being in a relationship.
	Hookup culture is different than a relationship.
	Well, then why are they reporting being lonelier in major cities?
	Because it's hookup.
	Yeah, you could still be really lonely and still hook up.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, but I mean, do you think that hooking up for men just becomes easier because they're in a major city?
	Yeah, yes.
	Yeah.
	That's what they go there for.
	Why do you go to Vegas?
	Like, why do you go to New York?
	Why do you go to Scottsdale?
	Why do you go to all these cities?
	Well, opportunity to go out.
	I'm trying to answer.
	I'm trying to answer.
	Hang on.
	Let me answer one question at a time.
	So if you're really bad in population 10,000 at hooking up, why would you suddenly be good at hooking up when you're in population 100,000?
	There's more options than there's more people who don't know what you're getting.
	There's more supply.
	There's more supply and less demand.
	Well, no, no, there's still as much demand as there is supply, right?
	So for every woman, there's still a man.
	For every woman, there's still a guy fucking that woman or not fucking that woman.
	It's scalable, right?
	So like if you're terrible, if you're terrible at hooking up with a woman when you're in a small city, I don't understand why you would suddenly be better at hooking up with a woman because you're in a big city.
	If you're a guy, the women there have more options to choose from, not less.
	If you're a guy in a small town not getting pussy, I suggest that you go to a big city.
	Yeah, I would agree that if you're in a small town, it makes more sense that you can hook up easier than in a big city.
	Because now the options are more limited for women.
	But if you expand the options for women, why would it suddenly make the small town guy better at hooking up with?
	I don't get that part.
	So if, okay, like you said, if a man comes from a small town and he's terrible at sex, right?
	Is what you said?
	No, he's terrible at picking up women.
	He's terrible at picking up women.
	Okay.
	Which, how he is, I don't know.
	But say he goes to a, well, that small town woman, that goes around and it's a small place.
	But if he goes to New York, so women in the small town have limited options.
	Right.
	They don't have as many options.
	So you would think it would be easier for him based on limited options because she has limited options.
	But if you expand her options, shouldn't it be harder for him?
	Are we talking about him?
	So should it be harder for her or him?
	Yeah.
	So would it be harder for him to hook up for himself?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So now if he has, if he increases male competition to himself, why does that make it easier for him?
	So to answer your question, when they go to the bigger city, obviously we already established to have more options.
	And with more options, it becomes more opportunities to fail.
	And with more opportunities to fail, you can continuously try another woman and try another woman.
	Because women are right now.
	Check this shit out.
	Okay.
	So wait, so you think it's pretty much just as easy between men and women when it comes to like sex?
	Yeah, yeah.
	What?
	Getting sex?
	That men can get sex easy.
	I think it's.
	Can men get sex easy?
	Yeah, check this out.
	No, no, no, we can do this right now.
	No, sorry.
	We can do it right now.
	Do you want to have sex after the show?
	Absolutely not.
	Do you want to have sex after the show?
	He just proved his point.
	Do you want to have sex after the show?
	No, thanks.
	Okay.
	Do you want to have sex after the show?
	With you?
	Yeah.
	Not see ya.
	Okay.
	Do you want to have sex after the show?
	I know where it's going at exactly.
	I know where you're doing.
	Of course not.
	But I mean, while you're in a relationship, I'm not going to ask you.
	Do you want to have sex?
	I charge, just warning you.
	Do you want to have sex after the show, Brie?
	I have to wait till marriage.
	So, like, unless you want to get married after the show.
	Boom.
	Oh, that was hard.
	Well, you have no game.
	So, of course, none of us are going to want to have sex with you.
	Yeah, but that's his point.
	You haven't seen that.
	Literally, his point is: hang on, hang on.
	So, his point is: if there was one of you in the room, he would have said no.
	And if there's 10 of you in the room, you would have said no.
	The idea here is just very simple: that expanding the pool of women for men doesn't make sex easier for them.
	Expanding the pool of men for women makes sex easier for women, not for men.
	Really quick, we're going to stick on the topic.
	I just, there's a couple chats that come through.
	We'll get right back to the topic.
	Hiccima.
	Thank you, man.
	Three more chats after this.
	Number six is just trying to go viral since she wants to be famous.
	She has the most brain-dead fourth wave takes, but is also LARPing as a Christian conservative.
	Send me another 200.
	By the way, Hiccama, send me another 200.
	Door dashed 12 Hiccamas, and they're arriving any second.
	These are arriving any second.
	We're eating this shit on stream.
	That champagne pop.
	Get that champagne pop already.
	We have three more chats here.
	Lucas coming in.
	Whoa, what an uninformed take.
	Pew Research did a study in 2022, which found 63% of men under 30 are single compared to 20% of young women, of which 30% had no sex in the past year.
	That's from Lucas.
	Right.
	So this actually demonstrates my point.
	What he's saying is that, let's say you took a guy who had a lot of game in a small town, what you call game, and then you put him in a big city.
	Well, yeah, now he definitely can expand his options for women to sleep with him.
	But the men who have no game, right, they're not expanding their options at all.
	It's just that the guy is now getting more women, which is why women report being in way more relationships than men.
	So if women are reporting being in more relationships than men, but women outnumber men, then this would mean that there's a select group of men who have multiple relationships with women, right?
	That's what that would mean necessarily.
	Yeah.
	So like, if there's five boys and five, well, let's just do even.
	We'll just do it.
	Six girls, six boys.
	And six of the girls, you're on a desert island.
	Six of the girls say they're in a relationship and only three of the boys say they're in a relationship.
	We have a problem here, right?
	What's the problem?
	Can anybody identify the problem?
	It's a one-sided relationship.
	Right.
	It's a one-sided relationship, right?
	So, so basically, the three guys are fucking all six of the chicks, and the other three guys are not fucking any of the chicks.
	So, essentially, if women are reporting that they're in more relationships than men are, then that means that men have multiple relationships with women, and that's how that is.
	So, yeah, we have two more chats coming in here.
	Lucas writes, First message, on the other hand, the storm clouds ahead for women, according to a Morgan Stanley study, is that by 2030, 45% of women between 25 to 44 will be single/slash/childless, and Morgan Stanley typically doesn't continued from Lucas.
	Continued Morgan Stanley study is likely on point since the study was commissioned to anticipate which industry segments are likely to grow, thus ripe for investment, e.g., Pet Smart.
	So, get yourself some cat food.
	Meow Mix, great.
	It's almost as good as crypto, like Doge or whatever.
	So, get yourself like invest in cat food brands.
	Just saying, random.
	So, Lucas, thank you very much for those messages.
	I do appreciate it.
	I guess going back to what I was saying, though, so don't you think we should be slut shaming, though?
	What I was saying to answer your question.
	Like, okay, imagine though.
	Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
	Go ahead.
	So, what I was saying to answer your question is for in order for a slut to feel shamed, you know, a majority of people would have to make what they do something to be shameful about.
	That same slut may not feel shame and may feel realization that what they're doing is wrong.
	Another person will find maybe religion and see that what they're doing is wrong.
	But what I was saying is, as far as slut shaming, there's you could do that, or you can like what you guys do is show different things that they could be doing as well, like working at McDonald's, like you say, or doing this.
	Those are, these are, these are gentle ways to deter women from being sluts, I guess.
	Okay, uh, word.
	Did you have more?
	Um, why do people try shaming people for doing things like right?
	You're like, we're slut shaming.
	This guy's saying whatever the hell is that?
	Why would you, why would you shame people for being murderers?
	That's insane.
	What happened?
	Why would you do that?
	Shame.
	Why would you shame people for being murderers?
	Where did murderers come from?
	I just said I'm discussing.
	I'm discussing just like I don't understand why people have to shame people for doing what they're doing individually.
	Like, I could shame you for like whatever work she's doing.
	I could shame her for being on OnlyFans.
	This guy could shame me for trying to have my industry.
	We could shame sluts.
	We could shame murderers.
	But at the end of the day, what we really should be trying to focus on is like everyone's individual selves.
	What?
	Yeah, but what if your individual self is well, hang on?
	What if your individual self is a murderer?
	Can we shame that?
	This is when you do these things.
	I don't understand.
	You're trying to put it together and it's not adding up.
	The murderers, we have to shame.
	The murderers we should shame.
	Yes, we should shame those people.
	Of course, why should we shame them?
	Because they're killing people.
	Yes, and that's bad, right?
	Is it?
	Is it?
	Tell me.
	Am I?
	Is it?
	Well, I mean, I'm asking from your worldview.
	That's bad, right?
	To kill people.
	It's bad.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	So then socially shaming murderers is good because it reduces murder, right?
	But again, if we told everybody who went out and murdered somebody, oh, you're great, you're awesome, you should kill more people, do you think more people would die or less people would die?
	It's just a different way to think, and I don't think it's going to get you.
	It's not going to get anywhere progressive quickly.
	Listen to my question.
	Hang on.
	Don't anticipate where it's going.
	Just listen to it, right?
	If everybody ran around to everybody who was a murderer and said, you go, that's awesome.
	Kill more people.
	Do you think that people would kill more people or less people?
	I don't think the murderer is really going to give a fuck.
	He's going to kill women.
	You think that if we ran around telling murderers that's great, that you murdered people, that they would kill less people or more people?
	Do you see a lot of murderers during the day, each day?
	Do you see a lot of murderers?
	No, because I think they're socially shamed and there's laws against it, dude, and there's social shaming and stigma and all sorts of things.
	But I'm saying if we got rid of the stigma against murder, we said, wow, you killed somebody last night who didn't deserve it?
	Awesome.
	Do you think that there would be more or less of that behavior?
	I get what you're saying.
	Yeah, psychologically, you could fuck somebody up that way.
	Yeah.
	Or not, I shouldn't say that.
	I should say you can manipulate somebody's emotions like that.
	Yeah, that's a very bad thing to do.
	So then social behavior, which we think is bad, we should shame because then there's going to be less of it, right?
	The only thing I want to shame would be killing people, things of that nature.
	I wouldn't want to shame somebody different than me, though.
	So that's completely two different things.
	It's completely two different things.
	Like, look, here, I'll give you some more examples, right?
	Like, a kid didddler.
	You'd want them shamed, right?
	Absolutely, yes.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Because it's going to reduce it, right?
	It's going to bring.
	Yeah, right.
	So then, if that is the case, if people want to see women or men be less promiscuous, then shaming promiscuity is going to bring the rates down.
	That's the idea behind shame.
	I mean, I can agree with that.
	When OnlyFans came out, we stopped shaming people, I guess, more so for it.
	It was more like it was a cool thing.
	It was a cool thing for that to be ongoing.
	That's when it, because it's in your mind.
	So let's pretend.
	This is a great point you make, right?
	So let's pretend for a second that every person who's not on OnlyFans shamed and socially stigmatized everybody who was on OnlyFans.
	Do you think that more or less people would do OnlyFans?
	Well, people have.
	How do you feel about that?
	Because you're the only one.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Let me just ask you again.
	Let me just ask you again.
	Think of every human being who exists in the world, every one of them who exists.
	And all of them shame women who are on OnlyFans, but they're not shaming women who are not on OnlyFans.
	Do you think more or less women would be on OnlyFans?
	I think that's happening now, and whoever wants to be on OnlyFans is still on OnlyFans.
	They don't care.
	They're going to make their money.
	They're going to make their money.
	They don't care who's saying what.
	I don't care who's saying what.
	If I want to be on OnlyFans and people are shaming me, I'm going to be on OnlyFans.
	I just don't want to, so I'm not doing that.
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	Hungry.
	Good answer.
	We have a chat here coming from Lucas.
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	It's eye-opening.
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	I'll take a look at it.
	Time permitting, we'll actually try to pull it up, but send it to me on Instagram at whatever.
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	Care 6.
	I just have to know.
	Everyone's curious.
	What do the windows you lick taste like?
	Is it a water flavor or something a little more sweet?
	And what brand of helmet do you wear?
	This is the guy that's giving me the red ruby crystal.
	Yep.
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	That's that.
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	Yes, he is going to put you in a red ruby crystal for sure.
	Two windows.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	I guess it's something you're curious about.
	So we're going to leave it there.
	You'll never know.
	And I want to clarify: I think shaming in some aspects is important.
	I'm not saying that people shouldn't shame.
	I'm saying that the basis of slut shaming is, I would say, a good percentage of what the show is about.
	And it's not necessarily a negative condemnation that I'm saying.
	It's saying that it's like something that this show does.
	And I just want to amplify on that.
	Can I ask you something?
	I've always been wondered about this.
	I ask people about this all the time.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And maybe you'll give me a straight answer.
	I think you understand a lot of the things that I say.
	I seem to understand you pretty well.
	If the whole world, if all of the women in the world were just like complete over-the-top sluts, right?
	Skanks, slept with random guys all the time.
	Do you think the world would be a better or worse place?
	I honestly, it may be for the better because since you're aware of what women are doing, instead of them doing it secretly or not knowing their intentions, knowing can put you in a safer position.
	Like if you met a nice girl and you sleep with her, little do you know she has this huge body count, she has some type of disease.
	But if you know she's a slut, then it's like you'll take precautions to protect yourself more than people typically do without knowing.
	So for the this world is already a you know very sexy sex-oriented world already.
	Sex sells, you know.
	So with that being said, if everyone, quote unquote, was sleeping around doing that, which we already are, knowing that would better set you up, will set you up better to be safer.
	to answer your question okay so so I just want to make sure I got this right You think that the world would be a better place because then men would take more precautions with women.
	Right.
	Because they know what they're getting, which is a slut.
	Now, instead of having to take precautions with women because they have STDs and things like this, wouldn't it be better if women weren't sluts and then we didn't have to take precautions because they didn't have STDs?
	Okay, and that wasn't the question, but to answer that question was you should be safe.
	Well, then hang on, Ian, if that wasn't the question, then what is it that men are supposed to be looking for here that if all women are sluts, they're taking precautions against if it's not STDs and pregnancy, like one of the things.
	So to answer your question with the same logic you had, if all men were murderers, then you'd take precaution not to get murdered.
	Yes, I agree.
	So with the same aspect, if all women are sluts, you'll take precaution to protect yourself against the things that you listed compared.
	What are those things?
	What are those things?
	So you would take precautions against the business.
	STDs.
	Yes.
	Very important business.
	Okay, STDs.
	Hang on.
	STDs, maybe unwanted pregnancies.
	Unwanted pregnancies, yes.
	What else?
	Toxic relationships that can be toxic related.
	Okay, so hang on, let's just stop here.
	Okay.
	So then if women weren't out having sex and weren't sluts, we wouldn't have any STDs and we wouldn't have any pregnancies.
	Why would that not be better than if they were all sluts and then we had to worry about STDs and pregnancies?
	I don't like the same thing.
	I don't know if I'm like, what if you went wrong and we wouldn't have to worry?
	Is that a good coaching on?
	Sorry, we got distracted.
	Pick them up.
	Pick them up.
	I thought this was chips.
	Chips.
	I need one more.
	So if you are aware of someone's intentional.
	Hang on.
	Let me ask you the question again because I'm afraid you didn't hear it.
	Okay.
	So I just went through your list.
	We'll just stop at the first two.
	If it's STDs and pregnancies, right?
	And if all women were sluts, then men would be more aware of STDs and pregnancies.
	And then if all women were not sluts, they would never have to worry about STDs and pregnancies at all.
	So then why wouldn't we just want them to not be sluts?
	I don't get that.
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	Wait, hold on just a sec.
	I'm getting reports that the audio, there's an issue with the audio.
	There's no issue with the audio.
	What happened is when you were handing everything out, everybody was talking at once, but there's no issue with the audio.
	Wait, well, hold on.
	At least not on my end.
	It might not be on your end, but...
	Testing, testing.
	Uh...
	Hold on, guys.
	Static, but it's fixed?
	Hold on.
	Well, that's probably the paper frame.
	The plastic bag.
	The plastic bag?
	Chat, is it better now?
	Chat, is it better now?
	Is it better now?
	Sorry.
	Good now?
	Oh, I hear like a little bit.
	Electro.
	Wait.
	What do you hear?
	It's like kind of faint though.
	Better?
	We're still the same.
	I don't hear anything.
	You don't hear anything?
	That's weird.
	Maybe the jicamas.
	Maybe the jicamas.
	Like it.
	It's eat it.
	I can't.
	How do you can you eat it just like this?
	No, you have to cook it.
	That's what I'm about to do.
	I have to cook this shit.
	That's the only way to.
	Okay.
	Raw hiccuma, but you have to like peel it.
	You have to feel it.
	Look, there's a lot of nutrients in the skin.
	It's like dirty, also.
	You can go like that.
	Oh, well, speaking of.
	How many of you have to do that?
	Can I get some of this money?
	What the fuck?
	I had like $400 question to me real quick.
	Why don't I take him on my Instagram?
	Hold on, buddy.
	You want to listen?
	Yeah, sorry, guys.
	I'm going to try to fix the audio.
	I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but I'll come listen to it.
	The darn hiccumal.
	So should we stop talking?
	Are you an old white man?
	No, we can actually, we can get back.
	We can get back to this if he's looking at that.
	So I guess where we were at before we stopped is we were discussing whether or not the world would be a better place if all of them were sluts.
	And your argument was it would, because then men would be on the lookout for things like STDs and pregnancy.
	More than they already are.
	So can you hear me okay?
	Yeah, I can hear you fine.
	There's no audio issues on this end.
	So then the question just becomes, but if they weren't sluts, they wouldn't have to worry about that at all.
	So I don't see how the world would be a better place.
	Right.
	So to answer your question, think of it like this.
	If I had a cup that I couldn't see through and it was poison, and that represents sluts, and you're aware that it's poison, and you could drink it, but you know you'll die because it's poison.
	So you don't drink it.
	Compared to a world where there are no sluts, you look at this cup and you're not aware of what they are, you might dip your tongue in, you might taste it, you might drink it.
	But if you are aware, there's not gonna be any poison in the cup, right?
	I'm sorry?
	Well, what's the poison here?
	The poison is sluts.
	Yeah, so the poison is so.
	So if you need to look into the cup for poison if there's no poison, you wouldn't look into the cup.
	You just know that it's poison.
	So since I know it's poison, as a man, since I know the cup has poison in it, I won't drink it.
	But if I don't know if they're a slut or not, then I can get an STD or I can get, I can die because I drink it and I don't know.
	Yeah, right.
	But just so you know, that here's why that doesn't make much sense to me.
	Okay.
	It's because in the poison analogy, so let's take the cup.
	The sluts are the poison inside the cup, right?
	Right.
	Okay, but if there's no sluts, then there's no what?
	Obviously, there's no poison, but the world we live in.
	Well, then, if there's no poison, if there's no sluts, then it would seem optimal that there's no sluts because then you never have to worry about the poison versus there's a cup with poison, but you can see the poison.
	I don't get that.
	Do sluts exist, Andrew?
	Sure.
	So technically, the sluts would not exist.
	They exist.
	Yeah, right.
	But my question was: do you think the world would be better with more or less of them?
	I think her argument is that you would have to do it.
	You know.
	You know, in this world of sluts and women that sex all the time, you know that's what they do.
	So the world would be better, in my opinion, because you're aware.
	You need to see the poison.
	But if there was no sluts, then you wouldn't need to see any poison because it's not a problem.
	There's always going to be sluts.
	Yeah.
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, first of all, why is there always going to be sluts?
	Someone has to do it.
	Like human nature to be evil.
	It's human nature to be a slut.
	No, I don't know how to be a slut.
	It's going to be.
	Someone's going to be promiscuous.
	It's literally the first job that people have had.
	No, the first job was mercenary work.
	No, the first job was.
	Definitely.
	But that's that.
	I mean, wait, so wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Men are the sluts.
	Men are the sluts.
	Men control this whole game.
	They've never been.
	You're saying that being a hooker is hard.
	Okay, that's the first time I heard that.
	If it's the oldest professional, by the way, I just wanted to let you know, if it's the oldest profession on earth, then you're saying that the first women were sluts or hookers.
	I'm just pointing that out.
	First women were hookers if it's the oldest job on earth.
	But anyway, so this aside.
	You're right.
	You know, back to this idea, I still don't really understand it because I would think that you would want to, if you reduce significantly enough the amount of poison as to almost every cup you ran into was not poisoned, that seems like it would be optimal to increasing the poison, but just letting people see the poison, right?
	It seems like the vast majority of it would be better, right?
	Literally, how crazy it sounds to you is the point.
	Like, yes, there's technically with there being more, you know, you're saying, oh, wouldn't it be crazy to get rid of it?
	That's the point.
	Yes, ultimately, but you want champagne?
	The art, like, what you disagree.
	Yes.
	What you disagree with me about is my point.
	Yes, you were aware, or men are aware, and it would just the backlash behind what you can get from these women will lessen.
	That will lessen.
	Yes, the sluts will increase, but the backlash behind it will lessen, which is the point that I'm.
	Well, wait, but the backlash will lessen for women, not right for the world.
	Yes, for the world.
	For women specifically.
	Yeah, that too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so I mean.
	Did you take a bite of it?
	No.
	Sorry.
	I tried.
	I tried.
	I couldn't do it either.
	Thank you, Morgan.
	Yeah, whatever.
	That's literally the point.
	It's not supposed to.
	It doesn't make sense until it makes sense.
	Like, what you said of how you kind of summed it up, that's the point.
	That's the point.
	I don't actually understand.
	So I would think in the passing.
	That you would, that if you wanted to see a behavior that you didn't like in society that you consider to be poison, you would want to reduce that behavior.
	All right.
	Instead of increasing it.
	Like, I wouldn't think that you'd want to see more poison.
	You'd want to see less poison.
	Right.
	But, you know, that just answered your question.
	Yeah, but doesn't it doesn't social shame then reduce poison?
	Some men.
	Shame is good.
	I don't know if I said that.
	I do agree with shame.
	And there's, and then I know how you've had conversations with women.
	Wait.
	You've had conversations with women where you had a wrong religion into helping them.
	And you didn't shame them.
	You talked about your Catholicism.
	Well, I generally try to match energy.
	So like Chair One.
	Chair One and I were debating earlier.
	Right.
	I wasn't disrespectful or mean towards her.
	She was making arguments.
	I was making arguments back.
	Usually, unless somebody's a dick, I'm not going to be a dick back to them.
	I don't know what she's doing.
	Right.
	She doesn't have any.
	One, two.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	But yeah.
	That's me.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	For sure.
	But yeah, there's different ways of going about it.
	Whether it's approaching it religiously, approaching it with shame, approaching it with a friendship, approaching it with a relationship.
	There's different ways to approach it.
	Even as a mentor, that's why there's People who mentor, people who coach people therapy.
	That's a way of combating some sluts because yeah, sure.
	But if shame is good and shame works to reduce a behavior which is bad in society, then why would you say the world would be better if everybody was doing the thing that you're trying to shame to get rid of?
	That's bizarre, right?
	We got to take a quick, quick little break here, Andrew.
	You got your vodka.
	This is a cheers to modest jicama.
	Also, you got to take it.
	This is a double, so the rule of our chat is like hell if I cough on a double.
	Saloo.
	Salo.
	Saloo.
	Whatever.
	Happy birthday to me.
	Happy birthday.
	Menu can cheers the water.
	Cheers.
	No, here, cheers the hiccuman.
	Take a shot of the hiccuman.
	Quick, come on.
	Try again.
	The guy who was talking shit.
	Cash app, but not ours for me.
	Cheers.
	Nobody's going to cash up you on anything.
	Didn't cough.
	Ha.
	Mellow underscore DM 45.
	Nobody did.
	Nobody's saying anything.
	All right.
	Okay.
	We got two chats here.
	We got Lucas.
	He says, no IG for me, old partner.
	Oh, he's a partner in the New York City law.
	What kind of law do you do, Baro?
	I need a lawyer.
	He's marrying.
	Married, two kids.
	Ig, not good optics for someone like me, but DM'd study to you on X. See two of two messages.
	Sorry.
	Also, shame is a form of ostracism.
	Humans are social animals and fervently seek to avoid it.
	Also, people respond to incentives/slash disincentives.
	See Thomas Sowell?
	I think that's how you say his name.
	Shaming.
	Disincentive.
	Avoid.
	Thank you.
	You can just keep reading the rest of these for me.
	I appreciate it.
	Sorry.
	That was interesting.
	You're doing great.
	Good job.
	Okay.
	Modest Hiccama.
	Thank you again for the big champagne pop.
	It's really good to see you back in the chat, man.
	You disappeared there for a little bit.
	You're back on top.
	Back on top.
	Let's see.
	Oh, I see the DMs.
	Okay, I'll take a look.
	We need to get through the rest of the show notes here.
	Really quick, though.
	Do you guys kind of related to this conversation?
	Do you think men are insecure if they care?
	I didn't finish the sentence.
	Yes, men are insecure.
	If they care about a woman's body count, starting with Brie, go ahead.
	Is she currently promiscuous or in the past?
	Both.
	Let's just say she's not currently promiscuous.
	She's not currently promiscuous.
	But she was.
	In the past, she was.
	Sucked a whole lot of deer.
	You should not be insecure if she is.
	A lot of penis in and around her now.
	No, Historically.
	The question is not if they should be insecure.
	The question is: are they insecure?
	Are they insecure?
	So if a man, so if a man says, okay, you have fucked 100 guys and I don't like that, is he insecure?
	No, he's not.
	Is he an insecure bitch?
	Okay, so then, so then why would you say they shouldn't be insecure if you're not insecure by being conservative?
	Wait, what are they insecure about?
	Do they think she's going to cheat or are they insecure?
	They're not insecure about anything.
	They just don't like the fact that she slept with 100 guys.
	Oh, then the question was worded wrong.
	It's not, should a guy be insecure or whatever.
	Is a guy insecure?
	Is he insecure?
	The question should be.
	Should a guy care about a body count?
	Yeah.
	That should be the question, not as he can't secure.
	That was the question.
	The question is: is a man who cares about your body count?
	Yeah, that's a literal question.
	But that's the question.
	Insecure that you're going to cheat?
	Just answer the question, bro.
	You got this.
	Okay, here.
	Just listen to the question.
	Listen to it.
	Listen to it.
	He is not.
	If me and Brie were a couple, we would.
	Sorry, I'm already drunk.
	It would be very, you know how there's like Brangelina?
	Yeah.
	Our couple, celebrity couple name would just be Brianna.
	Oh, that's pretty.
	Because you're Brianna.
	Yeah.
	Here's the question.
	Here's the question.
	Is he insecure if he cares about body count?
	That's his literal question.
	Insecure?
	No.
	Is a man insecure if he cares about body count?
	No.
	Okay, what about you?
	Quick.
	All right, what about you?
	Five minutes wasted.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Yes.
	Yes, okay.
	Yes.
	Yes, okay.
	No.
	Oh, no.
	Okay, so.
	Okay, so for the two women who said, who said that no, they're not insecure, tell us your body count.
	Or that they are insecure, tell us your body count.
	You said it was 120, right?
	Over 120.
	No more.
	No more than 120.
	Yeah, no more than 120.
	125, too much.
	120.
	And then next.
	What about, what's your body count?
	I don't think I want to say that.
	Yeah, I don't understand, though, right?
	But it's definitely under, it's not.
	It's definitely under 70.
	What?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	It's definitely under 70.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, under that, too.
	Wait, over 40.
	Do it.
	You guys are amazed by me.
	Just do it.
	Yeah, it's under.
	It's probably under.
	I'm giving myself like a high, like, especially under 40, 30.
	So just answer the question.
	Under 40?
	Come true.
	Under 40, 30?
	Under 40.
	40.
	So like 39.
	You guys could talk however you want to.
	I'm telling you, but honestly, did you lose track?
	Okay.
	No.
	You lost track.
	No, I've been dating you.
	If you haven't lost track, then why won't you tell us the answer?
	I just said.
	You say there's no insecurity with it.
	No, I just said that's extremely insecure for anyone to be asking somebody's body counts.
	Like, I would never do that to a guy.
	Would you guys do that to a guy?
	How many girls have you had sex with?
	I'm not asking that question.
	I think I want to know.
	Actually, that makes sense.
	That makes sense.
	Because with me, I like it when they have a higher body count because that means that they know what they're doing.
	I know what they're better in bed.
	I think this makes sense to me.
	Literally, everything you're saying makes sense to me.
	It makes sense to me that if you think that a man asks you your body count, he's insecure.
	I get that.
	It makes total sense to me.
	What doesn't make sense to me is that if you think that that will ward off the type of men you don't want because they're insecure, why you won't just tell us what it is?
	Say that again?
	If I would ward off who?
	Yeah, so if it's a man is insecure if he wants to know, you don't want an insecure man.
	So how come you're just not public with how many men you've slept with?
	How come I'm not public?
	Because I don't have to.
	I'm deciding not to.
	I think I've been pretty public about when I'm under a word range.
	I'm giving you guys a range.
	I'm deciding to give you guys a range.
	That sounds pretty insecure.
	I'm not.
	It sounds like you're very insecure that you're afraid that if you reveal your body count, it might cast out some partners.
	No worries.
	It's actually not.
	I'm actually not insecure about that at all.
	How many, what body count do you have?
	Then what is it?
	I'll tell you what.
	Are you?
	I'll tell you mine.
	You tell me yours, I'll tell you mine.
	I just told you mine.
	It's under 40.
	I'm not going to go.
	Way under 40.
	Actually, way under 40.
	Or 39.
	Way under.
	No, it's under 30.
	It's like.
	Okay, okay.
	What do you guys like to know?
	Why don't they start for a second?
	All of you stop for a second.
	I'm just going to ask you one specific question.
	Have you lost count of how many men you've slept with?
	No.
	Then what is it?
	Yes.
	I don't know.
	I'm not saying it.
	I'm not saying it.
	If you guys would really love to know, cash at me.
	I don't understand.
	I'll give you a $2 bill.
	I'll give you a $2 bill.
	Cash at me.
	I'll let you know, guys.
	This is better than a cash.
	There you go.
	I don't understand.
	But why the insecurity?
	Well, whatever.
	There you have it.
	Are you blushing?
	Did I make you red in the face?
	So, wait, we should get the rest of the rest of the panel.
	Body count?
	I don't disclose that.
	And it has nothing to do with it.
	It's just me wrestling.
	I don't know.
	Sure.
	Okay, that's cool.
	Will you do it for a $2 bill?
	What's body count?
	I'll do it for a $2 bill.
	I'll do it for a $2 bill.
	Oh, no.
	I'll give you a $1 bill.
	You already offered the $2.
	Now they're just going to give her this $2 bill.
	Now they're all going to shake me down for $2 bills.
	Yeah, well, you all.
	Hold on, I'll come back to you.
	What's your body count?
	Oh, I'll disclose it too.
	Are you insecure?
	I shouldn't have said shit.
	Didn't you say?
	I'm very fucking secure.
	Are you insecure?
	No, I'm not sure.
	You saw it last show.
	Didn't you say last show?
	If you're not insecure, why don't you?
	Pull it out then.
	I don't remember what I said.
	It was high, wasn't it?
	I was in so many long relationships.
	That number's even lower, I think.
	I'm giving myself too much.
	Well, wait, wait, you haven't lost count.
	You haven't lost count, right?
	It's way lower than that.
	What's up?
	Body count.
	Like 30.
	I don't care.
	Yeah, 30?
	I'm older than you.
	I got a quick question for you.
	Wait, what?
	Were you talking shit about my girlfriend?
	What?
	You're talking shit about Christine?
	No, no.
	Of course you're not.
	She.
	Okay, Wayne, Wayne, Miss Wayne.
	Yes.
	Can I just ask you, have you lost count?
	No, I've not lost count.
	Okay, great.
	Well, then don't be insecure.
	You got to tell us the exact number.
	32.
	Oh, okay.
	Hey, gotcha.
	All right.
	Body count?
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so I mean, do you think that lying is insecure?
	She's 21, though, so it's different.
	Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
	Is lying insecure?
	Some girls are their first freshman.
	No, no, no.
	I didn't say that I think you're lying.
	I asked you if lying is insecure.
	Freshman quarter.
	Freshman semester.
	Fall semester.
	Do you think lying is insecure, though?
	I think it just depends on what the lie is about.
	A quarter or semester.
	It depends on what kinds of lie.
	Like, what are they lying about?
	I'm asking that.
	Quarter or semester.
	Like, I don't know.
	Let's say just for a second they were lying about their body count.
	Would that be insecure?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was guessing.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Bree?
	Bree?
	That makes sense.
	Bree?
	I have the list on my phone.
	Get your phone.
	Have you lost count, Brie?
	I might be off by like two or three, but it's probably like between.
	Oh, we got.
	Hey, look at this guy.
	Well, hang on if you're off by speaking with Denise.
	Just 100%.
	Just one sex.
	I want to make sure these idiots know my donations off of Brian and Andrew and 3, 4, 7.
	Eight are top tier and deserve top tier men.
	Wait, 3, 3, 4, 7, 3.
	Not me.
	Oh.
	Oh, modest hiccup.
	What did I do?
	What these men?
	So, Bri, if it's off by two or three, right?
	Yeah.
	Then what's the number?
	Like, 20.
	So it could be 23 or it could be 17.
	Yeah.
	It could.
	They've lost count.
	Yeah.
	Is it insecure for a man to want to be with a woman who's lost count of how many men she slept with?
	Well, I have the list on my phone because sometimes I used to be sleeping.
	I understand.
	I used to be really drunk.
	Can you repeat my question?
	Can you repeat that?
	Get your phone.
	Like, I used to be really drunk.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	Can you repeat my question?
	Drunk.
	Yeah.
	I used to drink a lot.
	So, like, it's off by two or three.
	But Brie, can you repeat my question to me that I asked you?
	No.
	Because I don't know what you said.
	Okay, well, then, well then, hang on, Brian, real quick before you sing it out.
	Sorry about that.
	Here's my specific question.
	Do you think it's insecure for a man to not be with a woman who has lost count of how many men she slept with?
	No.
	No.
	But I mean, I could know the number because I have the list on my phone.
	You could.
	You could.
	I could count it.
	Wait, what's the body count?
	Yeah, but you don't.
	I don't have my $2 billion.
	I have the list.
	I don't see that.
	I don't see that much.
	Right.
	Get your money in here.
	So, like, if you ask me, I'd be like, hold on.
	Then I'd be like, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
	I'm getting a body count here.
	Go ahead.
	She got it.
	Oh, that money.
	Yeah, what's the body count?
	It's nothing crazy.
	What is it?
	Three.
	Take the two dollars.
	You suppose take the money first, but you said it.
	Oh, three.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	That is not true.
	For all of you.
	All of you.
	No.
	Wait, you did.
	That's not true.
	Okay.
	No.
	It's a fake.
	I'm just.
	It's real.
	It's real.
	Wait, we have a chat here from.
	Well, I got a quick point.
	Okay.
	She, logical reasoning on this panel has been bugged, boys, for patriarchy.
	So I want you to actually chill out, bro.
	Shut up.
	Wait, go ahead.
	So here's the question, right?
	This is just a simple raise of the hands.
	Actually, pay attention to the question that I'm asking.
	Pay attention.
	It's very important.
	Very important.
	Very important.
	If you thought that by lying about your body count, it could net you a man who was better than if you didn't lie about your body count.
	Would you lie about your body count?
	Raise of hands.
	No.
	No.
	My vagina's on the internet, so I don't really like my body count doesn't really mean that.
	So, body count is the biggest problem.
	I just want to make sure that I ask a quick follow-up question.
	Pretend for a moment that you were in my position asking that question.
	You personally were.
	And you asked a panel of women, would you lie if it would net you a better man than if you didn't lie about something as simple as body count?
	And none of the women raised their hands.
	Would you believe them by a raise of hands?
	Raise your hand if you would believe them.
	Yeah, she would lie.
	She already said she would.
	She lied about a virgin.
	No, I never lied.
	She didn't lie.
	Only one of you would believe them.
	Wait, what?
	We didn't understand that.
	Like, I don't understand.
	What language am I speaking?
	Am I speaking?
	What your question is?
	You're really saying.
	Yeah, you really are because of you, Sandro, roundabout.
	It's like a simpler way of explaining it.
	Let me ask you a couple here.
	Lightning round.
	Lightning round.
	Okay.
	Do any who here weighs less than 140 pounds?
	Raise your hand.
	Okay.
	And I know I'm speaking fucking English.
	I know I'm speaking English.
	I know you can understand.
	You just have to listen.
	So just listen to what I'm asking you.
	Okay?
	I know it's English now.
	Anglais.
	If you were in my shoes, you're in Andrew Wilson's shoes, and you asked a panel of women.
	If they would be willing to lie in order to net a better man if it was about something as simple as body count.
	And they all said no, would you believe them?
	By a raise of hand, would you believe them?
	Believe what?
	No, the girls.
	There was a panel of women.
	It's like talking to fucking kindergartners.
	Literally, it's like talking to fucking kindergarten.
	Which you didn't believe it pretty much.
	It's like talking to fucking kindergartner.
	We understand now.
	He's going to know the guy's going to know the count when you're in bed with him.
	So if you're a very promiscuous girl, it doesn't matter what the girl says.
	If she sucks good, right?
	If she's in bed playing the game good, they're going to know what your count is.
	Did I make a point or not?
	That's an opinion.
	She's like, I've never done this.
	And then she gives you like the best cock for a thousand in your life.
	Yeah, like you know what she's doing.
	I don't do this.
	I think that's for the practice.
	Do you know?
	Wait, come on.
	I think that's, I think that's.
	She's fucking slurping the shit.
	It's crazy.
	Hey, it's Rachel.
	Hey, Rachel, come back here.
	Hey, Rachel, come back here.
	Come back.
	Come back.
	They want to hear what you just said.
	They want to hear what you just said.
	He's in the chat.
	Yo, W's in the chat for Rachel.
	Let's see some Wachel's in the chat.
	I'm going to bring my husband this drink because watching him try to talk to you people.
	He needs it so bad.
	Me too.
	We need it too.
	God bless.
	Andrew.
	Not all of us.
	I don't know how this man does it.
	You know what?
	We, the whatever podcast is going to fund Andrew's therapy.
	Rehab?
	His rehab?
	He's like drinking and smoking.
	This whole time.
	It's been six hours of drinking.
	I mean, let us assume for a second that you were me, wouldn't you?
	Yeah.
	When I was doing that, I was at rock bottom, so I'm worried about you.
	Yeah, do I?
	Well, not only am I not at rock bottom, right, but I feel like I'm.
	I need you to understand how I feel now.
	I've been listening to all your feelings all night, right?
	I feel like I'm literally talking to a block wall who cannot perceive, even though we're speaking the same exact language, cannot perceive very, very basic concepts that a literal fucking retard could understand.
	Like if I went to a literal retard who had a stupid dunce hat on with a spinning top on it, this is what we got to do.
	I didn't understand what you say they weren't supposed to mention.
	I said R-word.
	Don't call retarded people retards.
	Andrew.
	It's bad taste.
	Bad taste.
	You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.
	So if you're talking to a block wall for five hours, who is the R word there?
	I don't know.
	Unlike you, honey, right now I'm making a lot of return.
	We understand.
	We're just not.
	I'm just going to go to the bathroom.
	I don't know.
	I'm not getting a lot of cash.
	I understand, I could barrel through it.
	I can barrel through.
	You can do it.
	Talking.
	You know, I can do it.
	Wait, so, okay, I'm going to get through the rest of the show notes here.
	Okay.
	So, going back to our good friend Mellons.
	Yeah.
	Birthday girl.
	Good name.
	It's fitting.
	You think it's fitting, Ryan?
	It's a direct question.
	I'm going to try to make a joke.
	But yeah, it's all right.
	So, okay.
	You said, fuck if he wanted to, he would.
	If he's able to, he would, financial, mentally, emotionally.
	Boom.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	You also said normal dating is boring, boring people aren't normal.
	What does that mean?
	Okay, so say that again.
	Say that again to me.
	Sorry, what?
	Say that night.
	You said normal dating is boring.
	Boring people aren't normal.
	So, normal dating, you know, like, oh, dinner.
	I love foreign women.
	A movie.
	Those are my favorite kinds of women.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, it's they're 50-50, though.
	You know, I'm not saying it's bad or good.
	They're either super cool or they'll murder you.
	Like the boring chip, like the kind of quiet chip, you know, the quiet girl.
	They're the freakiest.
	They're the freakiest.
	And they're also the chillest, but also the craziest.
	Okay.
	Like they could either be super chill or they could be crazy.
	Right.
	It's the quiet ones.
	Okay.
	So what I meant by that was, you know, normal dating is boring.
	Like movies, you know, dinner.
	It's just boring.
	And I feel like boring people who do those things are not.
	What do you want?
	You want mini golf?
	What do you mean?
	No, I want a girl.
	I want the men who are flying women out that are taking them on a yacht.
	Mommy, you want to go on a yacht?
	Absolutely.
	That's fun.
	It's fun.
	Like, who wants you?
	You want to go to a movie or you want to go on a yacht?
	I want a girl to come over and do fold my laundry on the first date.
	Yeah, see.
	I want to do some wholesome laundry folding.
	That's boring.
	That's not boring.
	That's hot as fuck.
	Maybe if she does it naked.
	It's no, she can do that in a Burke, and I'm going to be like, You're going to get her a Birkin?
	A Burke, not a Birkin.
	You said Birkin.
	I said Burke.
	You heard my friends, Birkin.
	Yeah.
	I'll rip that Burke off.
	Okay.
	If she's doing my laundry, so what's the split with dinner?
	Like, who's daddy?
	You want your clothes being folded, right?
	So are you paying for dinner?
	Yeah, you're dating that yacht.
	Is it 70-30?
	Is it 50-50?
	Well, here's that yacht.
	I'll pay.
	But it's kind of hot if a girl's simply.
	I'll go off.
	I mean, I'll do that.
	I'll do that for you.
	It's more attractive if she pays, but I'll pay.
	You know what I mean?
	I feel that.
	I pulled it a couple times.
	I mean, you want to feel like hotter, you know, just like quick drop on the thing.
	Yeah.
	But my thing is, like, if you want girls folding your clothes, that means your daddy.
	So that you're right.
	You won.
	You got to win her for her.
	Yeah, that means your daddy.
	If I'm folding your clothes, not you.
	No one will.
	Don't worry about it.
	Don't call me daddy.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	It's all fun in games.
	Andrew.
	Why shouldn't they call you daddy?
	Andrew!
	If he's buying her dinner and getting a yacht, I prefer sir or master.
	So you're definitely with mini golf?
	Sir or master.
	With mini golf, you're going to get that.
	Mini golf.
	I don't do that.
	Boring dates movies.
	Did you just he wants he wants you to call him sir to take you to the woman?
	They're going to have this long conversation with perhaps be African American to call you master, sir.
	That's pretty mean, Brian.
	Pretty rude.
	No.
	No.
	I want a white woman to say that.
	Let's see.
	What is it?
	Or Asian or Latino.
	I will forego the slip.
	I will forego the master if I'm dating a black woman.
	You're not going to get master Avi dates.
	If she's half black, she can say master.
	Okay, okay.
	Hey, Brian, Brian, go lay down, stretch your back, and get an ice pack real quick.
	Go get an ice pack and stretch your bag.
	What, dude?
	Walk for a second, bro.
	No, it's like it's not.
	It's not a race thing.
	It's not a race thing.
	I could tell you're probably a very kinky person.
	You're probably like the quiet type.
	It's giving 50 shades, right?
	So my mind doesn't immediately go to race.
	When I think of that, because I don't think I'm going to be a bit more than a pretty submissive to the right person.
	I've been known to tie up a girl.
	So I've been, it just, it depends on, you know, you.
	And I feel like you're a freaky, kinky kind of guy.
	And you have race.
	Pump the bread and whip the breasts and stuff.
	So I'm going to.
	Gets your minds out of the gutter.
	If you are fantasizing, if you like BDSM, then the whole master thing makes sense.
	I'll accept sir for the non-black.
	I'll start sir and then upgrade to master.
	Okay, yeah, I mean, I get that.
	It is what it is.
	Yeah, it's not a race thing.
	Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, dude.
	Andrew.
	Okay, listen.
	It's not race.
	It's not a little bit tipsy at the moment.
	We're not going to blame Brian for being a little tipsy at the moment.
	A little tipsy.
	No, It's not like, dude, it's not like a race thing.
	It's the dynamic thing.
	It's the dynamic thing.
	It's the question you have to ask yourself.
	The dynamic thing.
	The question you have to ask yourself is: in this moment, would it be better for me to say I do or don't date black women?
	Okay, do you?
	I think he's thinking about it.
	No, we think, but Brian, do you have a black ex-wife, though?
	I don't.
	Do you answer that?
	No, you don't.
	Somebody has to.
	Do you?
	Well, I mean, apparently, according to the internet, I do.
	Oh.
	Oh, good, according to the internet.
	That makes sense.
	I could use that too.
	If it's on the internet, it's true.
	No.
	He has no game.
	He probably can't get black girls anymore.
	Listen, leave Lakeisha Wilson out of this, okay?
	That's not what we're talking about right now.
	That's his ex-wife.
	We're not discussing my black ex-wife.
	We're discussing Brian, Brian, and his bad behavior on this panel.
	But I feel like, you know.
	Anyways, Lucas, chapter six.
	Chair six.
	Chapter six.
	Chair six.
	Oh, chair sex.
	I'm going to hear on again.
	Chapter six.
	You've consistently had the worst.
	Worst taste all night.
	All night, literal anti-truths.
	Not wanting to marry a carousel writer is a preference.
	Same as me preferring a blonde wife.
	Same as my wife not wanting a scrub.
	Always he is a hater.
	Hater.
	Hater.
	Go get your blondes then.
	It's fine.
	You can't do with this.
	It's okay.
	But yeah, I feel like.
	It's all right.
	I feel like dating should be more fun.
	It's just boring.
	You're so right.
	You should get food out.
	You should get money.
	No.
	You should escort.
	You should do what?
	You should get more out of it.
	You should get more out of it.
	You should get more out of dating.
	I want a woman to fly me out.
	And if you find that.
	Are you going to start escorting her?
	No.
	Shit.
	If that's your prerogative, it should be your prerogative.
	Because people can, women, listen.
	Listen, women can stay home.
	They don't have to go out with you.
	They don't have to give you their time of day.
	They don't have to give you their energy.
	And especially if it's a woman out of your league that you wouldn't traditionally go for, then girl, take that wallet out.
	If you have to pay, you have to pay.
	It is what it is.
	I think it's a bigger W, though.
	Like, I don't get why girls are like, oh, you flew me out.
	The bigger W is for them to come to you so you don't have to hop on a flight and go through security.
	Like the bigger W, like if you're the guy, is the girl comes to you.
	Or if you were a girl.
	Yeah, the guy wins and the girl wins.
	It's like a win-win.
	It's either or.
	I mean, you took a five-hour flight.
	No, no, but it is.
	And that logic is better to get physically.
	Come to me, motherfucker.
	Because you're experiencing the travel.
	Depending on what you do, you're vlogging.
	People sucked.
	For some people.
	For some people.
	And then you get that hotel room, you get that whatever.
	You get set up.
	You get this.
	You get that footage.
	You get that Airbnb, whatever the case is.
	If someone wants to fly me out to Greece and they say, oh, I'll just call me you.
	Hell no, I'm going to Greece.
	No, but these girls are really good fluent.
	I'm going to Greece.
	I'm going to.
	Yeah, they're not getting phoned out to fucking Greece.
	It's just things.
	It's an example.
	To fucking Newark.
	That was an example.
	It was an example.
	It was an example.
	If someone wants to fly you out to Europe, you're not going to say, okay, European man, come to me.
	Come to Florida.
	Come to Florida.
	No, I'm going to go to Europe.
	It's an example.
	I've been flown out to fucking Miami.
	I was getting flown out.
	It's an example.
	Yes.
	I would absolutely.
	You got something.
	Hold on.
	I wouldn't want to be flown out anywhere out of like places I don't know because you could be kidnapped and all this crazy stuff.
	You just don't know.
	So true.
	So true.
	What do you got for us?
	Oh no, he said our girl's getting flown out to Europe.
	I just raised my hand.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	Dubai?
	No, not yet.
	Not yet.
	But she's trying to at some point.
	But if we take all of your fly outs, most of your flyouts are not to Europe.
	So who are you speaking to?
	Who are you saying?
	Who are you speaking?
	I don't know.
	Are you saying general or just a story?
	Now who just said that she got flown out to Europe or whatever?
	Most of your flyouts are not to Europe, right?
	No, I don't get flown out.
	Well, you just said you got flown out.
	Yeah, once to Europe.
	Well, then you get flown out.
	She got flued out.
	Now, did you get flown out?
	Hang on.
	Are you still with the guy who flew you out?
	Is he still with an Agni fly?
	No.
	Just not good.
	And did you sleep with this guy?
	No.
	Did you hit?
	Did he hit?
	Did I hit?
	Yeah.
	Did you fall?
	He hit.
	Did he hit?
	Fallatio?
	What?
	What?
	Fallatio?
	Fallatio.
	What is that?
	It's Italian.
	Did you S the D?
	Did you S the D did you?
	Anyways, so flown out.
	Thrown out.
	Yes.
	It's fun.
	Wait, you said flown out, thrown out?
	Flown out.
	Yeah, flown out, flown out, thrown out.
	Blown out.
	It's fun.
	It's thrown out, thrown out.
	Makes dating worth.
	Flown out.
	I'm good.
	So if you want to find me out, hit me up.
	I'm to visit it.
	Okay, I got a chat here from Lucas.
	Sorry, Brian.
	I'm a commercial leasing lawyer, not a litigator.
	Back to female promiscuity.
	It can be traced to the male existential anxiety for paternal uncertainty.
	100,000 or so years of male hardwiring.
	First off, Lucas, that's very presumptuous of you.
	I'm actually trying to rent office space in New York City.
	Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
	That's why I asked if you, what kind of I'm looking in Manhattan.
	I'm trying to get some commercial space, okay?
	So pump the brakes there, Lucas.
	I'll be in touch with you and I'll put you on retainer, son.
	That's a really nice place.
	I'll put you on fucking retainer, Lucas.
	Manhattan is 10, what's your retainer?
	10,000, Lucas?
	And Brian got it.
	She's got it.
	Draft that shit up.
	Draft up the draft up the retainer agreement.
	What you do?
	Manhattan, Brooklyn, Yonkers.
	Where are you at, son?
	Calm down, Ukraine.
	Shut the fuck up, sorry.
	Calm down, Ukraine.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, you'll learn where I'm from.
	Brian, Brian.
	What?
	Stop.
	If Grant's in the Ukraine or not at war, it's Russia in the Ukraine, Brian.
	Calm down.
	It's not France in the Ukraine.
	No, that's sun in the end.
	You're talking shit about France, Andrew?
	Uh-oh.
	That fucking laptop came out of the door.
	I would never talk shit about the white flag factory goes France.
	Listen up, Andrew.
	Listen up.
	Don't make me debate you on France again.
	Don't make me debate you.
	Andrew, can you DoorDash a fucking jicama to your fucking house?
	I know it's like to it.
	What's a jicama?
	It's the fucking Andrew.
	Have you not been paying attention?
	It's this fucking thing.
	Door dash.
	What the fuck is that?
	Yeah, I didn't know what this was.
	Are you guys just eating bread?
	What the fuck are you eating?
	It's like, isn't it just like a root vegetable potato?
	It's a root vegetable.
	This is what bread looks like in Ireland in like 500 years ago.
	I mean, no, no, no.
	That's what it is.
	You had jicama in like a salad?
	But what is it you're eating?
	What is it you're actually eating?
	It's like a crunchy root vegetable.
	Is it sweet?
	No, it's like literally, it tastes like nothing.
	It tastes like nothing.
	Yeah, but it's like really crunchy.
	And you can't eat it.
	I dare say.
	Yeah, most people take care of a fee.
	Never mind.
	Okay, here, let's get through the show notes here.
	Wait, wait, the very first thing they come up with is like, yeah, I'll do it if you pay me.
	Period.
	That's how it should be.
	Very first thing.
	It's like, sure, I'll take a bite.
	How much you give it, make it.
	That's how it should be.
	Word.
	Yeah, I'll put them out.
	Oh, we got tweets from Melons.
	Can we pull up the tweets?
	What did I do?
	Pull the tweets up.
	Pull those tweets.
	Oh, my God.
	Get those tweets going.
	Get the tweets up.
	Get the melany fucking tweets up.
	Get those melons.
	Yo, zoom that shit in.
	Zoom it in.
	Zoom that shit up.
	Read it, Melons.
	Yo, read it.
	Okay, okay.
	To the men who swear they want good girls, when you take hours to reply or even days to reply to one that's on your line, what do you expect for us to keep being good girls and wait for you?
	Good girls are finishing effing last right now.
	You are you a good girl?
	Absolutely.
	Are you a good girl?
	Absolutely.
	In the bedroom and out.
	I'm not gonna wait for you.
	I was busy fucking a guy last night.
	That sounds like a good girl to you.
	No, I mean, you know, being a good girl, it was more so sourced to the guys not giving them the time of day, like just doing other things and kind of putting them as a second thought, taking hours or days to reply.
	But you pointed it out fucking.
	Oh my god.
	I didn't say that.
	I didn't say that.
	I said, nice girls are finishing effing last, not nice girls are effing guys.
	I didn't say that.
	I said, guys will literally have good girls on their line.
	Hey, how are you?
	Hey, how are you doing?
	Hey, whatever.
	And they just leaving them on red.
	So what do you expect us to do?
	Maybe I misinterpreted the tweet.
	That's fair.
	Next tweet.
	So if you're just saying, okay.
	Sorry.
	Oh, wait.
	We got modest.
	We got this.
	This guy.
	Modest take him a donated $200.
	Uh-oh.
	It makes me sad that we live in a world where a vet with five kids doesn't understand why that would be attractive.
	Stop underestimating yourself.
	Please smile.
	What?
	What's on attract?
	Why that would be what's attracted?
	No, no, it's the opposite.
	Yeah, it's a conversation.
	The super chatter is saying, a vet with five kids is attractive.
	Stop underestimating yourself.
	Smile, baby.
	Like, you're gorgeous.
	You got it.
	You're doing it.
	Like, that's what that means.
	I mean, I'm still trying to get at your grandma.
	I mean, like, you're cool and all, but I'm.
	See, this is the problem with the French.
	You see the shit they did?
	He's trying to hit on your 90-year-old grandma.
	These people are.
	Bro, she's.
	She's been a widow since the 70s, so let's just stop it there.
	It's not going to happen.
	Andrew, bro.
	Look, just because you discriminate against older women.
	Speaking of age gaps, let's talk about age gaps really quick.
	Would you want her grandma to call you master?
	Don't say that.
	I don't even want to put you in the grandma.
	Wait a sec.
	Wait a minute.
	What kind of girl?
	I mean, grandma don't speak English.
	Is this?
	What sort of reverse racism is this?
	I mean, he's not.
	Now, suddenly, he wants the Cambodian chick to call her master.
	What the hell is going on?
	It's a question for you.
	What?
	Would you want a 90-year-old woman, probably gorgeous and beautiful, call you master?
	You gotta roll up in there and colonize her planet?
	You gotta colonize the 70-year-old.
	First off, the French.
	Look at her laughing.
	Look at her laughing.
	She knows it's absurd.
	Hold on.
	Look at her.
	First off, Andrew, get your Southeast Asian countries correct.
	The French were more involved in Vietnam, not Cambodia.
	Get it right.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry, but Cambodia, which is on the border of Vietnam, the French were fighting in Cambodia and they were fighting in Vietnam.
	Let me just Google French in Cambodia.
	Cambodia.
	Reverse correction.
	WNG.
	Yeah, they were fighting in Cambodia too, Brian.
	Go ahead and look.
	Oh, my God.
	You're right.
	They were.
	The French protectorate of Cambodia.
	Yeah.
	Oh, Brian.
	Oh, God.
	Look, I was more familiar with the history of Vietnam, okay?
	French.
	No, you know, right now, right?
	And I'm just always right.
	God damn it, WNG.
	Wait, what were you talking about?
	Would you want a 90-year-old woman to call you master?
	And then search her in the face, too, since that's what you do.
	Wait, what?
	Punch?
	Punch her in the face.
	No.
	I don't do that.
	Oh, my God.
	Walks off.
	Walk off.
	She got you with that one.
	She got me.
	Okay, we have a chat.
	We got a chat here from Lucas.
	Hater out of my league.
	Shaking my head.
	Nice try, but okay.
	Easy to find on X. If you want receipts, just search Lucas.
	Find Profile Pick Me, Her.
	Bri.
	I watch every show and know why you need lawyer at Lowell, but I'm $12.50.
	$12.50 an hour.
	Draft up the fucking retainer.
	Draft up the retainer agreement.
	It's a done deal.
	It's a done deal, but I will get it thrown out because I'm under the influence.
	So I can't consent to a contract.
	Same.
	But what?
	We all know.
	Wait, what?
	Wait.
	Lucas, who was this directed to?
	Who was talking shit on Lucas?
	Was it you?
	Oh, I think it wasn't it.
	Hater out of my league.
	Who's talking shit to Lucas?
	I don't know.
	Who was it?
	Maybe.
	Hater.
	Not me.
	Not the number.
	Was it?
	Anyways, thank you.
	Thank you, Lucas.
	It's an easy question, Brian.
	Yes or no?
	I said that.
	I have a DM on Instagram.
	It reads, Does the black girl have boobs like the Everest Mountains?
	Oh, my God.
	Bigger.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	What kind of shit?
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	I don't know.
	Somebody just sent me that and I saw it.
	Okay, let me get through the notes, guys.
	God, stop talking about slavery and shit.
	And the French.
	What the fuck?
	Well, they brought up the French like five times, Brian.
	I know.
	It's offensive.
	Wait, who are we talking to?
	Wait.
	Who's a lawyer?
	Oh, the tweets.
	Wait, let's get through the tweets.
	Because I need them.
	Okay, read them.
	Melons.
	Read it.
	I mean, okay.
	I said, want to drop content, but I want a man.
	I can't have both.
	Next.
	Let's just get through all of them.
	Come on.
	No, you guys are not doing this.
	Read it.
	Where are the men that don't mind playing for paying for a girlfriend?
	Just curious, because, yeah, hit me up.
	Nice.
	Next.
	Y'all don't think I know my OF got to go so I can secure a good man?
	Right?
	See?
	You get it.
	I'm socially aware.
	I'm realistic.
	I'm realistic.
	Oh, that's almost too much.
	That's almost too much.
	That's like, that is like, I'm self-aware of the irony.
	And I know it's ironic, but I'm going to say it anyway, even though I'm self-okay.
	I admit that that one is pretty funny.
	Thank you.
	That one's funny.
	That one's funny.
	That's the point.
	Thank you.
	Wait, can we next tweet?
	How many tweets?
	We got more tweets?
	Jeez, that is.
	Follow me on X, y'all.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Fuck.
	Brian, I have to stop it on my end.
	I have to stop it.
	I'm kidding.
	All right, you're good.
	You're good.
	Hold on.
	It's okay.
	Wait, read it really quick.
	Read it quick.
	Two out of ten men like me for real.
	Accept and move on.
	When you say two out of, you mean two out of ten men like you.
	Yes.
	For what is F far?
	For real.
	What is for real?
	Genuinely.
	Like in what aspect?
	Like you, for real.
	Okay, so that's right.
	Is there far?
	Is it for real or is it for real?
	For real.
	For real.
	I'll say for real since I'm black.
	What do you think?
	Right?
	We'll put it in the.
	No, no, no.
	I just, I don't, because there's, there's different.
	It's because I'm black.
	It's because I'm black.
	For real.
	It's because I'm black.
	I get it.
	Is it for real?
	For sheet.
	Well, there's another word that you don't want to use that.
	She.
	What?
	No, no, no, no.
	Just like.
	Wait, what?
	He knows.
	He knows what he's saying.
	What did you fucking say?
	Andrew.
	Wait, that's the next tweet.
	We got the next tweet.
	You're going to hold up the whole show, Brian.
	Put up the next week.
	That was the last one.
	But yeah, two out of ten.
	Meaning, you know, as far as attractiveness, like I said, I'm socially aware.
	Andrew, I feel like you're getting your, you're understanding that.
	You know, my personality.
	I'm trying to portray that as genuinely as I can.
	But two out of ten men realistically are open about liking bigger women and or liking or accepting women that have OF and/or have the money to want to be with a woman such as myself.
	So two out of which is a small minority.
	So I'm definitely being realistic with my numbers.
	Two out of ten men would pursue and/or pay and/or lock in with me.
	Realistically.
	Girl, you're beautiful.
	Don't say such as myself.
	No, no, it's not a negative thing.
	It's realistic.
	Yeah, I know I'm gorgeous, but some men may not think so, and some men don't think so.
	And that's realistically speaking.
	I can't get everybody.
	Well, look, you seem like you are something of a realist, right?
	I'm just going to be direct with you.
	The men who you think don't think so, what do you think they're basing it on?
	So social beauty standards.
	And the social beauty standards being what?
	Well, like I said, I gave examples.
	Some are looks.
	Some are what I do aside as well.
	Looks-wise.
	Looks wise.
	So, looks-wise, some men will think I'm conventionally unattractive because I'm bigger in size.
	Some men will think I'm conventionally less attractive.
	This is some because I'm black.
	Some men will find me conventionally.
	I know, right?
	I'm Haitian.
	I thought you were like.
	Yeah, I'm Haitian.
	I'm African.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, I'm black American.
	I'm Haitian.
	Yeah, Brian.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Stop, Ryan.
	I'm not.
	I'm not in.
	He knows what he's doing.
	Brian.
	He knows.
	Brian.
	Andrew.
	All right.
	So back to this.
	Conventionally, when you say conventional.
	By the way, never mind.
	Conventionally unattractive.
	You say.
	Okay.
	It's all good.
	Hold it.
	It's all fun.
	So, but conventionally unattractive, what do you mean by that?
	You say, because you're heavy, right?
	Right.
	Have a few extra pounds.
	I.e., fluffy.
	What have you?
	Conventionally.
	What does that mean?
	Fluffy?
	It's just another term for plus size.
	It's another term for plus size.
	Andrew, she's curvy.
	Yeah, curvy, plus size, thick, or what have you.
	Like, just it's not the BBW.
	Like fluffy means overweight.
	Big, beautiful woman.
	Period, Ryan.
	That's why I can flip that.
	That fluffy means overweight.
	Like I'm a GPI fluffy.
	A big boy.
	I don't know what that is.
	I gotta lose some weight.
	Basically, another terminology, another slang term for a plus eyes, Andrew.
	Oh, okay.
	She's curvy.
	It was popularized by a Hispanic comedian who says that he's fluffy when he does his set.
	I forget.
	He's a Hispanic.
	What's your rate for escorting?
	Like, what do you charge?
	Are you really glad to?
	Well, it depends on the person, I would guess.
	But usually I would do like $250 an hour, realistically.
	Realistically.
	They pay you too.
	$250 an hour?
	Is that too much?
	And they pay you?
	They pay you $250 an hour?
	Is that too much, Andrew?
	Yeah, I feel like that's pretty.
	Andrew, please.
	Don't be like, oh, yeah.
	Andrew.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's affordable.
	I mean, I feel like.
	Andrew.
	It's okay.
	$50 an hour.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	Yeah, motherfucker, come on, build my deck for $250 an hour.
	Fill my what?
	What do you say?
	Build my deck.
	Oh, fuck.
	Holy shit.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean.
	We're being realistic.
	That's wild.
	$250.
	Really?
	$250 an hour?
	Is that too much?
	That's like minimum.
	That's minimum.
	That's minimum.
	What's the maximum?
	I mean, the maximum depends on if they want to spend gifts.
	Like, what if he wants to do a Cleveland steamer?
	I don't know what that is.
	He wants to go number two on you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Like, well, okay, okay.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	We'll make this easier, way easier.
	Minimum threshold, $250.
	What's the maximum that you've charged for the escort service?
	I mean, I would say I'm more low time.
	I'm not extravagant.
	I'm not a lusty.
	Yeah, sure, sure.
	So I would say $1,500.
	You're saying the one off, the one offset that you had.
	I'll say about the maximum you charge.
	The maximum that I've gotten or the maximum I've charged.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I'll say about $1,500.
	Do you have coupons?
	Wait, roughly?
	Hang on, per hour?
	Yeah, I would say I've gotten $1,500.
	Discount code or coupon?
	You don't have a coupon?
	You should start couponing.
	I should.
	Like, offering you.
	You've escorted for $1,500 an hour?
	Well, is the most I've Andrew, she's a don't, Andrew.
	Yeah, it's the most.
	I waited a day for it, but not an hour.
	So I was trying to understand the question.
	So the most would probably be $800 of spending time with someone in that threshold of charging hourly.
	Okay, so $800 an hour.
	How many hours?
	I probably spent like three hours with that person.
	$2,400.
	Period.
	So three hours, $2,400 escorting?
	Oh, okay.
	So minimum is $250.
	But when I was spending time with this person and they were paying me hourly, they gave me more money, but it didn't pass $800.
	Is there a military discount?
	You charge $800 an hour.
	Does that make sense, Andrew?
	Is there a military discount?
	You roll for that.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I just want to say that.
	Okay, firefighters and police officers.
	Is there a first responder discount?
	If they want to hit me up, we could talk about it.
	Sorry, go ahead, Andrew.
	I was just curious.
	Well, I just want to make sure we're clear.
	So let's pretend, let's reel it back.
	It's your best night ever escorting.
	The best, best one you've ever had.
	And you were going to give me, and I was like, well, what did that average out to hourly?
	Roughly.
	It doesn't have to be exact.
	Right.
	Just roughly the very best night you ever had.
	You pulled in this much, roughly an hour, was how much?
	800.
	800.
	And how many hours was that?
	Three hours.
	Wow.
	Yeah, I did.
	$2,400.
	Now, did you sleep with this guy?
	No.
	I spent the day with them.
	Well, what did he pay $2,400 for?
	Well, I spent the day with them.
	So we talked a couple of days prior, and he wanted me to meet his friends and go on a boat with him for the afternoon.
	So obviously, I bring my bikini and whatnot.
	And spent your what?
	But I had a bikini because I'm dressing up for the site.
	He wants to see me enjoy my company.
	Went on the boat for a couple hours, drank with his friends, had a good time, had lunch with them.
	Did you offer a senior citizen discount?
	Oh my God.
	You're your senior citizen.
	What, dude?
	I'm just, yeah.
	You know, like I said, nothing illustrious, nothing lavish, just literally simple being paid for my time.
	Let me ask you this.
	Let me ask you this question very briefly.
	Have you ever had a friend, just like a personal friend of yours, who's ever invited you out to a party that has males at it where you showed up and you all got bikinis?
	Me?
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	My friends are not about that life.
	No, no, no.
	Well, not about that life, but you just went to a party.
	You said invited.
	It was on the beach.
	Maybe it was on the beach or something like that.
	You just ended up showing up with your friends at this party.
	You know, you got in your bikinis because you were at a party and you're on the beach.
	No, honestly, no.
	No.
	Have you ever gone to a party that just had random people at it that a friend brought you to and you ended up hooking up with a guy there?
	Probably, yeah, sure.
	Yeah, sure.
	I mean, that makes sense, right?
	That drives.
	I wonder then, like, thinking about this, if I'm thinking about myself from the John perspective of the person who wants the escort, knowing that you could just call a woman like that who you befriended and ask her to a party, and then the chances could be high that she just hooks up with you anyway.
	Why the fuck do you think they pay for it?
	Like, why do these guys pay for it, do you think?
	I mean, they're friends with that person.
	Me, I'm a stranger who's amazingly hot and has 43 F melons.
	F?
	Yeah.
	Fuck shot.
	So that differentiates me from this friend because have you ever crushed me?
	I'm not necessarily conventionally rare, but there's not, there's like a handful of women that look like me, you know?
	So that in itself makes me unique.
	That in itself puts me over the top and more desirable.
	What do you charge for a guy to crush a dude's head?
	In between your boobs.
	In between.
	In between them.
	Is that more or less?
	Well, like it's falls in the plethora of $2.50 an hour.
	So the minimum.
	Yeah, whatever you want to do.
	How much would you charge if the guy just wanted to play back gaming with you?
	Like checkers or some shit?
	$2.50 an hour.
	$250?
	Yeah.
	Like, you want to give him some slack, like a discount?
	I mean, like if he was just like, babe, I don't want to fuck.
	I just want to play like chess.
	Yeah, but really.
	Desmond, she's yours, bro.
	Realistically, knowing who I am, I'm going to dress up for the day.
	I'm going to wear something sexy, something alluring.
	Sure.
	I'm going to flirt.
	I'm going to touch your hair.
	I'm going to present well.
	If I wanted to bring you to a yacht, but I wanted you to wear a burkini, would it cost extra?
	A burkini?
	I could have a request.
	If that's what you request, if that's what you request, absolutely.
	That is my request.
	You can do whatever for your $2.50 an hour.
	It's your time.
	You're the king.
	You're the master.
	Can I ask a brief follow-up question?
	Have you had, I mean, this seems obvious, but I'll ask anyway, because maybe I'll be surprised, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Have you had breast augmentation surgery?
	No.
	They look natural.
	You should feel that.
	Okay, so that's Brian will be the judge.
	I'll pass on that.
	Thank you, though.
	So that's all natural.
	No breast augmentation.
	Yes.
	I wouldn't, I wouldn't, honestly, I wouldn't get these sides if I had the children.
	I feel like you should be a little generous and maybe hook up a couple girls here or maybe pass some.
	You know, that's that's I've heard that before.
	Brian, what?
	Brian.
	I've heard that before, and I've always said if I ever were to give some away, I'd put it in my ass first.
	So, it's okay.
	I just want to say I've been very, that was a very rude thing for me to say.
	Very rude.
	I'd like to take this chance to apologize.
	Absolutely nobody.
	I do want to say, though, I actually, I think women, zip it.
	I think women with small boobs.
	Brian.
	I think.
	Brian, you're going out of control.
	Hold on.
	I think women with small breasts are beautiful, and I actually kind of almost prefer women with small breasts because they try harder.
	Okay.
	You're bugging out tonight.
	Brian.
	Brian is bugging.
	Ladies on the panel.
	Really?
	Brian, we lost Brian.
	Get Brian.
	We lost him.
	Oh, my God, Brian.
	Brian's gone.
	We've lost him.
	What's going on with Brian?
	Brian, what's going on, bro?
	Look.
	I would say I have small breasts, and I do not try harder.
	Well, that's on you.
	Try harder.
	In what sense?
	In what sense try harder?
	They just do.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	He means like swish-up bras or he means like putting things in there.
	That's trying harder.
	I think he's talking about like effort and like specified.
	Because I agreed with you when I thought of those aspects.
	Look, okay, fine.
	I'll just say something.
	I think that's how it works.
	Here's, okay, look.
	Look.
	I'm part of the itty-bitty titty committee.
	Okay.
	You're a part of that?
	I'm part of it.
	I'm an honorary.
	I'm the spokesman.
	Look.
	I'm going to say some more offensive shit, okay?
	So I think when it comes to big boobs, a woman with big boobs can be hot.
	She can be sexy.
	But I don't know if she can be like beautiful.
	But a woman with small boobs can be beautiful.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What is this hand up?
	What is this hand up?
	What is this?
	Yeah, I'm talking about her.
	Like about her people.
	Her people.
	She's small boob people.
	She's saying she's beautiful with small boobs.
	Yeah.
	Because you look at Greek.
	Okay, here's why.
	You look at like a Greek Roman statue.
	They don't have like can crusher triple D's.
	They've got like B cup B cup on these statues, the Greek Roman statues.
	They're not fucking can crusher, you know.
	And that's small.
	Yeah, that's small.
	And so like, so a woman with small boobs can be beautiful, but I don't know, like big boob girl can be a 10, can be super hot, can be sexy, can be hot.
	She can't be beautiful.
	But I don't know if like a big boob, sorry, Brie.
	Well, they're fake.
	I don't think a big boob girl can be like beautiful.
	I mean, I'm beautiful.
	Like, I'm conventionally beautiful.
	Like, that's why I rated myself a seven because by whose convention, though?
	Let's talk about the convention.
	My face being proportionate and even my face being shape would be considered attractive.
	I agree that angular features, proportionality, is highly attractive.
	I don't disagree with that.
	So that's what I mean.
	But there is a glaring flaw in my skin as well.
	It's even throughout my face.
	So like I'm beautiful.
	So that this kind of.
	But there is a glaring other thing, right?
	Which could definitely lead a lot of people to go, not for me.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	All I'm trying to say is small boobs are kind of elegant.
	But I'm debunking what you said of big girls with big melons can't be beautiful.
	And I'm not sure.
	No, you can still be hot, attractive, sexy, all that with some giant titties.
	But like, there's like a different layer, you know, there's like an elegance to like a B cup, a B cup.
	I agree.
	Come on, okay.
	It's cute.
	Elegant, yeah.
	Elegant.
	Elegant.
	No, no, I agree.
	Okay, in that point, I agree because majority of things that I wear, I can wear a top that she's wearing, but because my chest is bigger, I look more sexual.
	So I therefore don't look, I therefore don't look elegant.
	Like if I were about the boots.
	Like if I wore this shirt, basically, I would conventionally look more sexier, which will take away from my elegance.
	And so I saw that.
	Oh, what's happening?
	Girl!
	What's happening?
	So I get what you mean.
	So yeah, I know, for sure.
	Like, like, if I walk in with a red dress.
	Yeah.
	Fuck, she looks sexy.
	I mean, I'd prefer Kina.
	Right, but if I walk in with a red dress, I'm like, okay, damn, she looks sexy.
	Look at her chest.
	And then the same girl with maybe a smaller chest would come in with that same red dress.
	She'll look beautiful compared to beautiful and sexy.
	Compared to elegant and, you know, lush filled, lust-filled.
	So I get that.
	So I agree with you.
	Yeah, I agree too.
	What were we talking about before all this?
	I don't know how we've been talking about titties for like 20 minutes now.
	Yeah, because you got really hyper-flexated on it.
	It was you.
	I'm a labia guy.
	Oh, are you talking about it?
	I'm a labia guy.
	Why?
	Why you brought it up, Ukraine?
	Ukraine brought it up, and then you played on Ukraine.
	That's what happened.
	Ukraine.
	Oh, wait.
	Sorry, Hikama.
	Hold on.
	My bad.
	Modest Hikima donated $200.
	I gave a non-pervic compliment to a woman on the panel, and the one most likely to die early of heart disease decided it was race-based.
	I am interested to hear why she thought it was racist.
	talking about me about the heart disease but go ahead i mean i don't i don't really remember the the pervy comment honestly but neither do i yeah Yeah.
	But I try not to make anything race-based.
	Like, when he said the whole master thing, I didn't immediately think of race.
	I thought of the kinky and freakiness.
	So you must have missed it.
	Well, no, well, wait, in Brian's defense.
	Oh, the male.
	I don't think he was thinking in those terms either.
	I brought it up because I thought it would be really fun to mess with him to see some moral outrage on the panel.
	I just thought it would be funny.
	But I definitely don't think in any way the guy was targeting anybody.
	I just thought it would be hilarious.
	And it was, objectively.
	And I know that because you were laughing your ass off.
	That's how I do it.
	Yeah, I don't find everything race-oriented for sure.
	As being a woman of a different race and ethnicity, I don't mesh everything with race unless it's necessary.
	Good talk.
	Okay, we're going to get through the notes really quick.
	I do want to play the battle video because it's important.
	It is important.
	So, guys, I'm going to show you a video of my ex-girlfriend.
	Okay, can I just ask again, Chair one, you're dressed modestly.
	Really?
	Again, it's kind of that's modesty.
	There's flowers on it, Andrew.
	It's kind of how she said: like, if another girl were to wear the same thing and she didn't have boobs, it'd be super modest.
	It'd be considered cute.
	But since I'm wearing it, it's considered more like, okay, like.
	Have you ever considered baking a cake in that dress?
	I could.
	I'm trying to cover my shoulders.
	I've been covering this.
	Can I wear the shawl?
	Can I wear it for a bit?
	I'd like to wear it.
	I feel like I'm going to be a little bit more a little bit, but I'm going to put it in a head.
	I feel a little revealing right now.
	I need a hoodie.
	These guys, Brian, you do look a little chilly.
	You look beautiful.
	Thank you, Brie.
	That's very chivalrous of you.
	All right.
	Very chivalrous.
	God damn, bro.
	A little titty girly couldn't rock that the way you are rocking that dress.
	I don't want the focus to be on my boobs.
	That's why I had the shawl.
	Can I keep this?
	We can't help it.
	Literally, you can't.
	You look like a criminal.
	You can't.
	Even before I got my boobs, then I still have boobs, and people would just sexualize everything I want.
	Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
	So we're going to pull up the bow video.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	This is my ex-girlfriend.
	What's her name?
	Her name is Becky.
	What?
	Okay.
	That's right.
	Yeah, Becky.
	That's Becky.
	Go ahead, play it.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Did you guys see that?
	Huge.
	What?
	A bow?
	Did you see the bow?
	Did you miss it?
	I saw the bow.
	We'll play it again.
	Do the bow again.
	Do the bow again.
	Wait, just we'll have to do that.
	We'll get it after.
	So, look, this was actually, I filmed this after a long podcast day, and she had dinner ready for me.
	She was a sweetheart, but I actually dumped her like two days later.
	But after that, well, it wasn't just dinner.
	She had soju ready for you.
	She had side dishes.
	She served you noodles.
	She really went all out.
	Oh, she bowed, I see.
	Yeah, and then play it again.
	And boom, huge bow.
	So this is my expectation, like from a girlfriend.
	She has to hit.
	Good luck with that.
	Good luck.
	Yeah.
	It's possible.
	I think you'll find it.
	Especially if he's master.
	In another country, Daniel.
	No, I can do this shit as a marriage.
	What is the fixation on this master thing?
	You can do that shit.
	It's the goal.
	It's like high status.
	Why do Ukraine bring this up again?
	What the fuck?
	Because that's what he is.
	You are what you say you are.
	And you're.
	Bow for one.
	Using your notes.
	I mean, what you said.
	If she won't find someone who will.
	Stop reading my shit, bro.
	You freaking.
	Stop fucking reading my shit, bro.
	Cover the shit.
	I have a privacy screen on this for a reason.
	Right.
	If she won't, if she won't find someone who will.
	Find someone who will.
	If she wanted to, she would.
	She would.
	I need a girl to make me a quilt.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Spend 10 hours.
	Yeah, you buy the string and she'll make it for you.
	She got knit a cardigan.
	Yeah, some air ears.
	She got to make me a shawl on a first.
	Right.
	Make you whatever hoodie.
	Yeah, everything.
	Because if she wants to, she will.
	Like, the closer she is to being Amish, the better.
	Okay.
	If she won't fucking churn butter, I don't think it's a dumb.
	It's a fucking deal breaker.
	But I don't know.
	I don't think an Amish girl would wear your rose cup.
	Well, also, like, a lot of girls really object to this.
	Like, on the first date, like, I'll have a girl come over to my place and I'll have her do my laundry.
	Like, what do you guys think going around the table?
	Like, would you do that for a guy, Brie?
	I wouldn't go to a guy's house if he's not my husband because he bites.
	Back in your hoe days.
	Back in my home.
	You know, three weeks ago.
	Yeah, like three weeks ago.
	Don't do that.
	If he paid me, for sure.
	No, no, no pay.
	No pay?
	No.
	No.
	He paid you in.
	Like, this is like the first, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He don't.
	Look, we have to go.
	We have to go back a ways here, Brie.
	Like, let's think, let's think in terms of like 30 days ago.
	30 days ago.
	Yeah.
	That's what I'm saying.
	If he paid me, sure, I'll come to you.
	Okay, all right.
	I'm not going to give an answer.
	Would you do a guy's laundry on the first date if you were at his place?
	Yeah.
	Based on.
	I mean, if I really like the handle, wait, wait, hold on.
	Sorry, repeat it.
	Probably not.
	Okay.
	I would never go to his place for the first date.
	That's not true.
	That's fucking true.
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Absolutely not.
	Oh, step the cap.
	Is it the way?
	Stop the cap.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's so predictable.
	It is so fucking predictable.
	Unbelievable.
	Would you do a guy's laundry on the first date?
	Yes, and do the bow.
	Yes, depending on the date and then bowing.
	No.
	What the fuck?
	Why did you create?
	Why is Ukraine shaking her head?
	Like, she would just never do it.
	It's like an impossibility.
	You wouldn't do a guy's.
	You're the first date.
	Because you're projecting.
	I never did any one-night stand.
	Bullshit.
	I didn't say, hang on.
	How does the laundry equate to a one-night stand?
	Oh, ask fucking Brian because I have no idea.
	Because you said you wouldn't go to someone's house on the first date.
	Absolutely not.
	I'm hungry.
	No, I'm starving.
	Even for, like, what if it was just for a nice dinner?
	If he was like, you just want to come over and have a nice dinner?
	This is delusional.
	Who goes to someone's apartment as a first date?
	Who doesn't need an apartment?
	You know, people have houses.
	No, their place for the first date.
	What if it was like this?
	Hang on.
	What if it was like this?
	He was like, listen, what I like to do is I like to get like a group of people over.
	We have a big bonfire and I slow cook fish all day long or slow cook steak all day long, right?
	It takes me from 8 o'clock in the morning until 12 at night, and then that's when we eat.
	And it's the most delicious, slow-cooked meal you've ever tasted.
	Why don't you come on over, right?
	And we'll do the bonfire.
	We'll do the slow-cooked steak.
	You know, you can even bring a pal with you so that you feel more comfortable.
	All right, all right, all right.
	You wouldn't go do that, really?
	You're changing the circumstances.
	No, I know.
	You are.
	So, what's the point?
	I want to know the answer.
	Are you sensing the difference between the intimate date between like two people and me going to their place?
	Don't cut me off.
	You don't like when people got you off.
	You don't like when people got you off.
	Don't cut me off.
	It's not going to work this time.
	I just want to clarify then electric talk.
	No, you're cutting people off.
	You're cutting people off.
	It's okay.
	Yeah, because I want to make sure you're not strawmanning the position and we're not wasting time.
	Really super slow.
	Well, you're definitely wasting time.
	You are.
	Please.
	Okay, so let me tell you.
	I'm going to tell you exactly what's going to happen.
	We're going to walk through your scenario right this second, and then I'm just going to have to go back and repeat what I just said because you're going to strawman it.
	Go ahead.
	Thank you so much.
	All right, there's a difference between the first date at someone's place when there's only a man and a woman, and he's, for some reason, for some very dumb reason, is inviting her to his place and what you just described when it's a group event.
	It's a major difference.
	It doesn't matter!
	What you do!
	Anyways, back to what I was saying before you, strawman, the position I gave you, which is, would you go over to a man's house under those circumstances?
	Do we even call this a date when it's more than yeah, sure?
	He's clearly interested in you, right?
	And he tells you he's interested in you.
	He's inviting you over.
	He's going to have a party where he slow cooks steak all day long.
	He says, come over about 10 o'clock.
	That's when the bonfire starts and we're going to eat.
	You can even bring a female friend with you.
	Would you go?
	Still a date?
	Yes.
	Would you go?
	Does it matter?
	Yeah, would you go or not go?
	Yeah, definitely.
	I would go.
	It's just not really.
	So, so here's the thing.
	So let's, hang on, let's expand on this.
	So you're with this guy, you like him, you're over at his house, you're all drinking, you're having a great time, right?
	And then, voila, you accidentally stumbled a little bit and you spilled your strawberry margarita, your Ukrainian strawberry margarita, all over his shirt like a dick.
	Like a dickhead.
	You spilled it all over him.
	He's kind of embarrassed, but he shrugs it off.
	He's like, you know what?
	Don't worry about it.
	I got a washer inside.
	You wouldn't just offer and be like, look, why don't I take it?
	I'll throw it in the washer for you.
	Yeah, but that's different.
	That's why it's different.
	Let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	You know what distracted me a lot is the way you're using like Ukrainian thing.
	What's the background of it?
	Is it like kind of hilarious?
	Like literally irrelevant.
	We don't give a shit.
	Totally irrelevant.
	You brought it up.
	Totally irrelevant.
	Means fucking nothing.
	Forget everything I've ever said about Ukraine, which has always been tongue-in-cheek.
	So you're there with this guy.
	You accidentally spill your strawberry daiquiri all over his shirt.
	It was an accident.
	You stumbled in the dark.
	And he's like, you know what?
	Don't worry about it.
	I got a washing machine.
	It's right over there.
	And, you know, you wouldn't go, you know what?
	Let me go throw it in the washer for you as a way of saying I'm sorry.
	Would I do that?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Of course I would.
	Well, of course you would.
	So you're saying on the first date, under many circumstances, you would actually do a man's laundry.
	Thank you, Ukraine.
	Thank you.
	Wait, let's get the answer from everybody.
	Andrew, you're too much.
	Like, really, this is like, it's, my God.
	This is fucked up.
	It's okay.
	Brian, everybody.
	That's why Flute's going to win.
	Uh-oh.
	Okay, going around the table.
	I forgot where we left off.
	I had to.
	I had to.
	It was funny.
	This is childish.
	This was childish.
	I said, oh, you asked me to bow.
	The bow, would you hit a bow?
	So, yes, unless they treated me like that.
	And then would you do?
	So would you do a bow?
	Would you do laundry for the guy?
	I'm hitting a bow only if the sex is bomb.
	No, it's like I'm doing laundry only if he's daddy.
	And that's it.
	Daddy.
	You said on first date, so that's absolutely enough of both for me.
	On a first date, I'm driving.
	I've never had a one-night stand.
	No.
	Never.
	Be honest.
	Being honest.
	Okay.
	And but would you, how about down the line, a month down the line?
	You're going to hit a bow?
	No, never with a bow.
	Laundry?
	Laundry, yeah.
	Not the bow.
	Yeah, I love laundry.
	Cook, what?
	No bow.
	I can cook, but I'm not bombed to anybody.
	I don't care who you are.
	You wouldn't bow?
	No.
	Absolutely not.
	Really?
	Yes.
	It's a culture thing.
	Culture thing?
	Could be.
	I mean, like, I see that the other lady that you showed.
	He's a white guy.
	No, my culture thing.
	That's like a.
	No.
	No?
	My head's not going to be a bit more.
	Wouldn't it be like if you're Asian, wouldn't it be more types?
	Different types of Asian.
	I'm not.
	Well, I know there's different.
	She ain't the one.
	I'm not.
	You want me to tell you how many different types?
	You've got Thai, you've got Vietnamese, you've got Cambodian, you've got Laos, you've got Mongolian, you've got, did I say Japanese?
	You've got Korean, you've got Chinese.
	Yeah, but every like specific Indonesian?
	Everybody's different, though.
	Like a culture thing.
	Like my culture will say, absolutely not happening.
	We're not bowing.
	Where's the place that there's a civil war currently?
	Just Burma.
	Wait, no, it's not even called Burma anymore.
	Myanmar, thank you.
	Myanmar.
	We're in the Philippines.
	The Philippines.
	Thank you.
	Singapore.
	Taiwan.
	Taiwanese, yeah.
	Good.
	Okay, would you bow/slash do guys laundry on the first date?
	I mean, I guess you guess like, would it be like a joke to bow or would it be like for real?
	Like halfway between a joke and serious.
	Yeah, I would do it.
	Okay.
	And the laundry, you do the laundry?
	Yeah.
	I find relief in folding clothes.
	Relaxing.
	See, I'm a nice guy.
	On the first date, I'll have it just, it just needs to be folded.
	It's already gone through the wash, gone through the dryer.
	I just have it ready to go to be folded.
	That's my big thing.
	Would you do a girl's laundry on the first date?
	Oh, no.
	Why not?
	In fact, sometimes if I want to really challenge, throw in the challenge there, I have a washboard and a clothesline.
	So I'll have her.
	Churning butter.
	And then, yes, churning butter.
	Yeah.
	If she won't, find someone who will.
	Period.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	But wait, so you won't do it?
	No.
	You wouldn't do a bow.
	No.
	Or the laundry?
	Not on the first date, no.
	Second, third date.
	If they were doing it with me.
	Nope.
	No.
	Okay.
	I would sit there and watch.
	Okay, so a couple questions for you.
	A couple questions for you, then I'll get back to the notes here.
	So wait, so okay.
	When you go on the first date with a guy, would you want him to pay for the first date?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then, just to be clear, though, you wouldn't.
	The perfect guy, your perfect guy, you wouldn't do it for him.
	I would, but I wouldn't do it for him.
	No, no, no, no, on the first date.
	But how would I know he's perfect?
	I wouldn't know anything.
	You know he's perfect.
	No, no, no.
	Like, you are thirsty for this dude.
	You're thirsting.
	Okay, if I thought he was like the perfect person.
	He's rich.
	He's tall.
	He voted for Obama, Obama, Hillary, Biden, Harris.
	Okay.
	So if I thought he was the perfect person for more perfect than your current boyfriend.
	Maybe.
	It would really depend on the situation.
	If it was like that situation where like I spilt a drink on him, yeah, I would wash his clothes and fold him.
	No, no, no.
	But if it was just like laundry was like laying around in his house.
	No, it was in the hamper.
	Because he's okay.
	It was like dried in the hamper and he was like, hey, do you mind just folding my laundry?
	No, it needed to be washed.
	Okay, fine.
	Fine.
	It's already, it's in the dryer.
	It's already dry.
	You just have to fold the shit.
	Would you do it?
	I would be for the perfect guy.
	Maybe, I don't know.
	I would have to ask a lot of questions.
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Yeah, probably.
	Have you ever slept with your boyfriend?
	How quickly did you guys, you know, first date?
	Three months.
	Three months?
	Yeah, we were friends first.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't know.
	He was like in the friend zone?
	He was.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	How long was he in the friend zone for?
	Three months.
	Wait, how do you guys meet?
	Friendsgiving.
	Like Thanksgiving last year.
	Yeah, social thing.
	Like being official until like April.
	Okay.
	Who asked, did you ask him out or did he ask you how?
	He asked you how?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, but okay, so you guys were friends for three months.
	But like, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	So he asked you out.
	Yeah.
	And then you guys went on got food or something?
	What did you do for your first date?
	We went skydiving for a New Year's.
	On your first date?
	On our first, like, damn, bro, these guys do way too much extra shit.
	No one dating me.
	I wanted to go skydiving, and he has his license, so he was like, let's go.
	I still had to be tandem.
	Like, I had to be tied to someone, but it was like our, we were friends when we did that, but that was like our first, like, what do you mean?
	Like your friends, but it was a date?
	Yeah, like our first, like, just us hanging out.
	Oh, so you weren't, it wasn't a date then.
	Yeah, I guess it wasn't.
	Well, it was a date for him, but not for you.
	I don't know.
	It was like neither of us, I guess.
	Did you guys smash that night?
	No.
	Okay, so then he was like, well, Christine, I think you're very swell, and I'd like to.
	This is exactly how it went.
	I think you're very swell, and I'd like to take you out to dinner.
	Yeah, he took me out to dinner.
	And that was the first date?
	Like, official date date.
	And did you guys that night?
	I don't think so.
	Christine?
	I don't think so.
	I think we hooked up before that.
	But like, we were, you know, friends.
	It was like a really complicated startup of our relationship.
	So, okay, so you're perfect guy.
	You wouldn't do it for your perfect guy.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	It would really depend on the dynamics.
	Do you want a guy to pay for it?
	I forgot.
	Do you want a guy to pay for the first date?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	You do.
	Okay.
	So here's what's interesting to me.
	Like, a lot of women's standard is: I want a guy to pay for the first date.
	So what does that entail?
	So let's say you're dating a guy who works construction and he makes $20 an hour, right?
	And let's say the total for the date is for the both of you is $100.
	I don't think that's unreasonable for a nice dinner with some drinks and a tip.
	It could even be more.
	I'm sure all of you have been on a first date where the guy paid more than $100.
	That's $50 for you, $50 for him.
	He works $20 an hour.
	That's two and a half hours of work.
	So y'all women want a man to labor for two and a half hours.
	But if he asks you to do a bow that costs you three seconds and is effortless, literally effortless, it takes three seconds to do a bow.
	You won't do it.
	But you can demand a man to using his resources.
	And let's, again, let's say he works a construction job and he's getting $20 an hour and he takes you out to a $100 dinner.
	That's five hours of work.
	I mean, obviously he's paying for himself.
	But that's five hours of work.
	Y'all can't hit a bow?
	I mean, a majority of us said we would.
	I'm not sure.
	No, that's on him.
	I don't need anybody to pay for money.
	That is on him.
	Really?
	I usually bring my own money.
	If I'm on a date and say the guy doesn't want to pay, he wants to pay.
	Yeah, but that's not.
	Would there be a second date if the guy didn't pay?
	It doesn't matter.
	It just depends on the energy and the vibe.
	If the vibe wasn't good, there's no second date.
	Let's say the vibe's good.
	Okay.
	The vibe's good, but he's like two checks.
	Is there no second date?
	What a turn off.
	What a turn off.
	For a guy to do that?
	No.
	No, that's crazy.
	What's a turnover?
	That's a turnoff.
	For a guy to pay $100 and expects anything from $100 for you to do back, that's a big turn off.
	What about if I'm dinner?
	So the same way that you were saying for like two hours, right?
	It takes him two hours of work to give you dinner.
	So affordable.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So with me, with my money, what is it for me then?
	The same thing, no?
	What are you talking about?
	She's like, I'm flipping up the scenario.
	Her hours that she makes at her job is being spent on you because she's paying half as well.
	Well, that's the scenario presented was the guy's paying for the dinner.
	And then expects me to bow.
	Because if I was paying for his dinner, I wouldn't expect him to bow.
	So who's more of a man?
	No, you don't expect him to bow, but if you're going on a date with a fucking construction worker that gets paid $20 an hour, he's literally physically laboring so that he can, for hours, so that he can take you on said date.
	Okay.
	And y'all are not willing to literally.
	So as a nurse, I'm paying for his first dinner.
	I'm doing the same thing.
	It's labor.
	It's the same body labor.
	Do you pay for first dates?
	Sometimes I have before.
	Not mostly, but if I have to say, if he's hot enough, he's a turnoff if he expects something.
	It's a very beautiful shawl, Brian.
	She said it's a turnoff if he expects something.
	It goes back and forth.
	I don't know why it's not that simple.
	Yo, Eugene, thank you for the gifted.
	Hold on.
	Boom.
	Eugene, thank you for the gifted, 50, 50, excuse me.
	Memberships.
	What?
	She said it was a turnoff if he expects something after paying for the date.
	That's what she said.
	I paid for your dinner.
	I'm trying to articulate a point.
	Women can have this expectation of men that the man should pay for the first date.
	Well, what does that actually entail?
	What are we offering?
	No, no, no.
	That's not the point.
	Okay.
	I got the point, though.
	If a guy, if you expect a guy to pay for the first date, that's your expectation on him.
	What is required for him to take you to a $100, the total for the date is $100.
	If he works $20, makes $20 an hour, he has to work five hours.
	If he's working a construction job, he's physically laboring so he can take you on a date for five hours.
	Well, I'll just, well, even being charitable, if we cut in half, it's two and a half hours of work for him.
	Right?
	Two and a half hours of physical labor.
	That's your expectation for men to take you on the first date.
	But y'all are, oh, I would not do a three-second bow.
	If that was his expectation, everybody's just.
	I'm just a joke.
	No, it's not a transactional thing.
	Like, I'm taking you on a date, so you have to bow.
	It's not that.
	It's just like, you guys have this expectation on men that they should pay for first dates.
	But if a guy is like, I want you to be submissive, I want you to bow for me.
	You won't do it.
	But that's expectation.
	Here, I'll take it even a step further.
	Y'all, I don't know what y'all's sexual history is.
	Probably some of you at this table have met a guy and within minutes, hours, have fucked him same night.
	You sucked his dick, gave him the pussy, gave him the pussy.
	You'll less the D, you'll s the D, but you won't hit a bow?
	You won't do a laundry?
	Well, well, you all said no, but I think Brian phrased this poorly.
	I said yes.
	He said within a few minutes to a few hours.
	He's really saying within the same day that you met this person, you slept with him the same day that you met him.
	So I'm just going to ask this question to the entire panel.
	If you've ever met a man and within the same day or night of meeting him, you've slept with him, raise your hand.
	And it doesn't imply one night stands.
	You could have continued dating him, seeing him.
	Yeah, you could have.
	Yeah.
	Show of hands, if you've done- Bro, y'all are full of shit!
	Wait.
	He said, could you please repeat?
	Sorry.
	I zoned out.
	Okay, okay.
	Pay very close attention.
	The whole panel, pay attention to what I'm saying.
	Pay attention.
	Pay attention.
	Don't like look at the W's on the whatever on the wall and get distracted by the pretty floaty things.
	Just actually listen to what's being said.
	Same day you met a guy or same night you met the guy in the same day or same night that you met this guy, you slept with this guy or did some type of sexual thing with this guy.
	Show of hands.
	Damn, bro, there's a lot of liars at the table.
	Totally, totally, totally fully.
	You're a fucking liar!
	You're a fucking liar!
	Wait, hold up, Christine.
	You said your body count's 32.
	Yeah.
	There wasn't one like college hookup.
	Not that like the first time I met them.
	You know what I'm saying?
	That's what he said.
	Not the first day I met them.
	Like never.
	Oh, wait.
	Are we?
	Okay, well, let me rephrase.
	I'll rephrase this a different way.
	Rephrase.
	A guy who you met within the first five days.
	Five days you've slept with him or done some sexual thing with him.
	Show of hands.
	Okay.
	Bro, Christine.
	I'm not even joking.
	Like, I literally have to, like, I need my shawl back.
	I mean, Christine, come on.
	I need a college.
	I mean, yeah.
	What college did you have?
	You have to give her the shawl back.
	I need my shawl.
	Could she eat?
	I need your shawl because I'm cold.
	No, I need it for real, please.
	I have a lot of people.
	No, I feel uncomfortable.
	I don't want to not wear shawl.
	I feel uncomfortable.
	Please give me my shawl back.
	What about Christian ethics?
	Brian's cold, and you're not going to give your shawl to a cold person?
	Listen, this is a whole hoodie on.
	You know what?
	Because you're such a gentleman.
	I will.
	He is not a gentleman.
	I had to ask him 10 times.
	Hey, listen, okay?
	Why don't you steal the.
	Why don't you get some warmth from the jicama, okay?
	Why don't you?
	Why don't you fucking peel that shit?
	Peel the skin and use that as a shawl.
	Use the jicama shawl.
	I tried to eat it.
	I did.
	Brian, she's trying to dress conservatively.
	You jerk.
	Let me have my shawl back.
	I'm sorry.
	This is a sword.
	Can you just roll it?
	Okay, you.
	Okay, throw it in the jaw.
	Oh my gosh.
	Don't throw it like that.
	He's such a boy.
	That was gentle.
	Okay, that was gentle.
	All right.
	Calm down.
	Okay, we have a chat here from.
	Brian, you're such a jerk.
	I'm such a dirt.
	Such a jerk.
	Practicing gentlemen, if a woman can expect a free meal on a date and suss out if a man can provide for her, why can't a man have a woman do his laundry or clean some floors to suss out that she can take care of a home?
	He can't.
	That's a great argument, gentlemen.
	Like not on the first date.
	Why do I gotta be a provider on the first date?
	Why do I got a pet?
	Why do you feel uncomfortable about?
	Just dinner.
	It's just about.
	I will do the bow.
	Let's say show us about.
	Show us the bow.
	I've got, no.
	Show us the bow.
	You can even take me to dinner.
	Wait.
	You have a boyfriend.
	Yeah.
	No bow for you.
	The chatter's making a very good point here.
	The chatter's making a good point.
	Let me down.
	Let me give you the point real quick.
	Methany, calm down.
	Have you guys ever been on a date with a man and it's the first date and you ask him what he does for a living?
	And essentially, you're prying into how much he makes.
	Not for you.
	Yeah, but they're also asking us the same question.
	I agree.
	They're also asking you the same question.
	Yeah.
	I agree with that.
	I'm not disputing it.
	But on a first date, you would agree with me that it's very common that men and women kind of pry into what the other person does and how much they make.
	That's pretty common, right?
	You would agree with that, wouldn't you?
	Sure.
	Yeah, so I mean, if that's the case, if a man is looking for a woman who would be a good kind of housewife, let's say, if you're interested in his money and his occupation because you want to see if he's a good provider, doesn't it seem reasonable that he test to see if you're a good homemaker?
	On the first date, yeah.
	But if on the first date you're trying to see if he's a good provider, I don't see why you have the moral high ground here.
	But I'm not telling him, go make the money in front of me, so I will make sure that this is exactly where you're doing.
	But it's inferred.
	It's inferred that you're asking him how much he makes so that you can determine if he's a good provider.
	Like, that's inferred.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, so, so, I mean, if you're like, hey, right, he's paying for the meal and this and that.
	That's a demonstration that he makes the money he's saying he makes.
	Why couldn't you demonstrate the same thing in opposition?
	Okay, so the reverse thing would be: would you, would you do the laundry in the relationship?
	Yes, I would.
	What's your job?
	This one.
	How much you do you understand that this is the same thing?
	I'll tell you why that's why that's wrong.
	I understand what you're saying.
	So here, I'll be maximum charitable back.
	I understand what you're saying.
	You're saying, look, if I'm just asking this guy what he makes, I'm not literally saying, let me come to your job and make sure you make that amount, right?
	Yeah.
	That's totally fair.
	But you are saying, pay for the meal, right?
	Pay for the gas, pay for all that.
	That is a demonstration.
	Okay.
	Look at that.
	So if that is the case and he's demonstrating that for you, how are you demonstrating back you're a good homemaker?
	Okay, so is this your standard?
	Because most of them have a second question.
	It has nothing to fucking do with what my standard is.
	How does someone apply to me?
	Let's assume for a second that I don't care, that I'm asexual and don't give a shit about women and they mean nothing to me and I'll spend the rest of my life alone.
	Has zero to do with the question.
	All right.
	Literally nothing to do with it.
	All right.
	So can you answer the question I asked?
	You don't even remember it.
	I think I would because you were so busy going off on a tangent about do you apply this standard to yourself, which has nothing to do with Andrew.
	I'm just wondering.
	I'm just wondering, at what point of your life did you even start asking yourself this question?
	Like, oh, if I'm responsible.
	Are you cutting me off again?
	Oh, you really can't.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Check this out.
	Check it out.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Check this out.
	Don't cut me off.
	Hang on.
	Why should I?
	You have to hang on because I started talking.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Yeah, thank you so much.
	That's all I asked.
	Last time, which is you something unrelated.
	Okay.
	Okay, Andrew.
	So since when did you even start having this concern?
	Okay, if I'm responsible for paying for a dinner for the first date, why shouldn't she show me that she would do my laundry?
	Like, since when did this even happen in your head?
	I'm wondering.
	Who cares?
	Look, I'm going to show you.
	I'm going to show you how flawed this line of logic is, right?
	If there was a big body of water and there was a bridge, would you use the bridge to cross the big body of water?
	Yeah, it's such a rhetorical question, of course.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	Well, I would use a boat.
	What does that have to fucking do with anything?
	So whether or not I apply the standard you have to the standard I have, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking.
	So instead of deferring and saying, Andrew, when exactly did you apply X, Y, and Z to your life, it has nothing to do with what I'm asking.
	What I'm asking is, why would it be unreasonable for a man to say to you, if you want to know how much I make because you're trying to pry into whether or not I'd be a good provider, why is it unreasonable for me to ask you if you can wash some fucking socks?
	On the first date, okay, this is just out of my.
	It really is so out of my worldview that I can't even picture some man asking me that.
	Why wouldn't it be reasonable?
	That's a good question.
	Maybe for someone like you, especially, it is very reasonable.
	For me, it's just fucking weird.
	It's really weird.
	I don't know what's the problem about just discussing it and making sure that, okay, if we get into the relationship, I can do that.
	I mean, for me, you going across the bridge instead of a boat, it's just fucking weird.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I mean, does that make any sense, right?
	But it doesn't.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	When you think about it, it doesn't matter if I take the boat and you take the bridge across the body.
	That has no bearing on anything.
	Are you saying it's weird you take the bridge?
	It means nothing.
	So the question here is like, if this guy, if you're asking him this question because you want him to provide and he's making the demonstration he can provide by paying for the date and he wants you to be a homemaker, what the fuck is wrong with him asking you if you can clean some socks and you demonstrating it like he's demonstrating for you that he can provide the first reason why it's weird because I can't go to someone's private space on the first date.
	I'm not going to your public space.
	We've already established that's not true.
	I've already shown you how that's not true.
	You'll go to a person's space on the time you get invited to dinner.
	He'll even do his laundry depending on what you're talking about.
	What the fuck is wrong with you?
	Every time you get invited to dinner, you actually can clean the whole house.
	Wait, wait, wait, can I just take care of it?
	Absolutely.
	Wait, Because we were talking before.
	I really want to go to the house.
	I agree.
	That would be ridiculous.
	All right.
	All right.
	So getting back to what you said about the different example, I'm not even calling this a date when there's a bunch of people hanging out in the private spot of a man that wants a date with me.
	So he's inviting me, but there are other people there.
	For me, it's not even a date.
	It's a group event.
	It's not two of us.
	So I'm.
	I understand completely.
	So what are you saying?
	Hang on.
	I'm even going to give you the olive branch that I agree with you.
	What I'm saying is that what if you set all of that up specifically so that you would have a spill on his shirt so that he could see if you could wash his fucking shirt competently, and you did.
	It's a shit test, just like the him paying for a date is a shit test, right?
	So, like, what's the problem with that exactly?
	Oh, in this kind of circumstances, there's no problem about it.
	Yeah, right.
	It's an easy fix, of course.
	That's what I'm saying.
	There's no problem.
	Yeah, of course, because you gave the exactly perfect circumstances for that.
	If we were having a dinner at the restaurant, two of us, and then all of a sudden he's like, Can you use my laundry tonight?
	I want to make sure.
	I want to make sure that this is fucking weird.
	You know, but exactly the conditions that you provided us with, of course, it makes sense.
	You know that it makes sense.
	So, like, what's let us assume, let us assume for a moment.
	Yeah.
	You know, the hats that men wear, they have a forward brim, right?
	Like a baseball cap?
	You've seen men in baseball caps, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, you do realize that 100 years ago that they wore like cowboy style hats and top hats, right?
	All right, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So would it be weird to watch a guy walk down the street with a big top hat on?
	That would be kind of strange, right?
	A little bit unusual.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Yeah, right?
	Maybe a little way.
	It would be a little bit weird.
	It might be a little weird because it's culturally relative.
	Yeah.
	So in this case, when you say, I want a demonstration, you can make me money and provide for me, and you demonstrate that by paying for my dinner, and he says, well, then I would like a demonstration.
	Could do fucking laundry and the things that I want.
	The only reason you find it weird is because of cultural relativism.
	You're saying, because this doesn't happen much, right?
	It's weird to me.
	But is it really weird when you think about it logically?
	Doesn't it kind of make sense that if a man wanted a housewife, he would test a woman so he didn't have to waste his time?
	Yeah, I see your perspective very, very clearly.
	But at the same time, okay, if you see as a paying, okay, hold on.
	How should I even put this?
	If a man is paying for the dinner, if he's taking care of the whole date, and if we take it as the proof that he is going to provide in the future.
	Well, isn't that really the purpose of him paying for the date in the first place?
	See, he could lend the money from his fucking friend.
	This is the problem.
	This first date.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, right.
	But that really doesn't negate the point as to why it is he's paying for the date.
	The whole idea here is: I'm taking you out.
	I'm taking you out why.
	It's a demonstration I can take care of you.
	All right.
	What if he landed money from his friend, his grandpa, his dad?
	He's paying for the whole thing.
	And then he's like, Can you do my laundry?
	I say, yes, of course, I'm going to do all your laundry.
	And then they get into the relationship.
	He's broke and she never does laundry.
	And because they just lie to each other on the first date.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	I'm totally going to give you the olive branch back.
	He totally could borrow money from some like random he knows or some family member he knows, and completely catfish you under those circumstances.
	But you could do the same, right you?
	Yeah, exactly that's what I just said.
	And you could call your mom and be like, hey mom, how the fuck do I get grave stain out of these white socks?
	I have no idea.
	And she's like honey, you have to use the bleach right, or whatever it is.
	Yeah, so it's like it's the same thing both ways right, it's like just saying because you can't be tricked doesn't mean that the purpose here is that uh, he's supposed to pay for the date to prove he can provide, and if he wants to provide for what's going to be a housewife, it seems reasonable that he would ask for demonstration that you're a good housewife.
	That's all i'm saying.
	Okay, does that make sense?
	That makes a perfect sense.
	And it does.
	It makes sense.
	Yeah, you're really smart.
	You're really smart guy.
	Amen, why are you shaking your head?
	What am I saying that's wrong?
	What am I saying that's wrong?
	You just like.
	You just shake your head, you get upset, but you never tell me what i'm saying.
	That's incorrect.
	I have a question.
	That'd be chair six, what's up, chair?
	Six, what you got me?
	Did you pay for the first date with your wife?
	Of course, did she feel?
	Why are you arguing?
	Did she do your laundry what?
	Hang on?
	Hang on, listen.
	I need you to understand something.
	It wouldn't matter if, every single night, I went out to a prostitution house and grabbed eight different hookers and gangbanged them.
	It would have no fucking bearing whatsoever as to the point of the argument.
	The argument is whether or not this is appropriate, not whether or not I Would do.
	It has nothing to do with anything.
	You understand that, right?
	It's the idea that you can entertain a thought.
	Whether or not you would do the thing is irrelevant.
	It's totally irrelevant.
	I we're gonna try to get through the notes here real quick.
	So we got a few more.
	Let's do Diana really quick, then we'll do Melody.
	Diana, you said not a date experience, but someone that follows you on social media told you you're never going to get the guy that you want because of how you look, how you are shaped.
	These guys just want to smash and pass.
	And the only way someone would be serious and loyal to me, he has to be average, below average, and short or super old.
	Yeah.
	Someone's told you that.
	Yep.
	Damn.
	Wow.
	That is not fucking true.
	And I'm like, but I'm not even looking though.
	You what?
	I said, I'm not even looking because I'm so busy with my business.
	Yeah.
	I don't really have time.
	But if I'm dating, I'm making time because I want to.
	And the five kids too.
	Yeah, you got to juggle that schedule.
	That's okay.
	You said you don't understand this part when it comes to dating.
	Why is it when the guy is all over you and you're meh nonchalant about it?
	He's putting in, showing more effort that he's interested, serious about you.
	But the moment you decide to reciprocate the attention and affection, because you're genuinely following, longing the guy more, following, like, falling in, like, like you'd like him.
	Like, yeah, start liking him.
	Yeah.
	He ghosts you.
	Yeah.
	I just thought that was weird.
	Like, so like after you get sex?
	No, no, not that.
	It's like the fact that like they're showing interest, they're chasing after you, making time and showing that like, you know, you're the priority, right?
	Yeah.
	And then you're like kind of, meh, like, because you're not really feeling just like whatever.
	And then the moment you start noticing his effort, you appreciate it.
	And then you wanted to reciprocate.
	But then it ends up like they just kind of dropped you.
	Like, are you supposed to be more nonchalant and let them chase so they can keep going?
	Or are you just, I don't know.
	Just thought it was weird.
	Like, what is it that you want?
	Do you want a girl that don't really care and you're here putting more effort into her?
	Or you actually want to seriously begin a relationship with this person?
	Okay.
	So the question is, why after dating for a period of time and you start showing more interest in the guy, they end up ghosting you, basically.
	Yeah, like communicating, like, you know, like consistency as far as like texting or talking, whatever.
	Yeah.
	And then at the moment when you're kind of like trying to show them that you actually want more than like just dating, you want to move to the next level, it just kind of gone.
	Well, I just asked the other female panelists here.
	Have you guys had this experience where the guy starts?
	I mean, like, for the record, I've never been on a dating app or website like throughout this year.
	Until no, until this year, I signed up my first year ever signing up after my 34th breakthrough.
	Is there an issue with the audio?
	By the way, Damien, just you got to be keeping an eye on the chat because some people are reporting that there's some audio issue.
	There's been some audio issues on our end.
	Chat, one in the chat, is the audio okay?
	Tune the chat.
	Audio is not okay.
	Tune the chat if the audio is not okay.
	One in the chat, the audio is okay.
	I think the audio is okay, Brian.
	Little pops and clicks.
	Damn, bro.
	I don't know.
	Oh, you know what?
	It could be.
	Wait.
	I'm going to do a test chat.
	Did you guys hear that?
	Damien, do you hear anything?
	No.
	No, it's not you.
	It's their audio.
	I wonder how far I'm not sure what's going on.
	Sorry, guys.
	Something's bugging with the fucking audio.
	Maybe it's these.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Well, okay.
	Keep an eye on it.
	So, okay.
	You said the dating pool is trash in this day and age.
	People are feeding you what they think you want to hear as bait.
	Yeah.
	Like, a lot of times, I guess, like, well, I'll speak for myself, I guess.
	I'm, if I'm going on a date, like, my ultimate goal is obviously be in a relationship and be married to eventually.
	So, most of the time, the guys would, like, put on their profile, like, oh, they're looking for a serious relationship.
	They want to have a family or get married, whatever.
	But then when you actually go on a date with them and you're hearing what they're saying, it doesn't add up.
	It's just like, nah, you're just wasting my time at this point.
	So, it's like a bait to get a date at least.
	Okay.
	Well, what are these things that they're baiting you with?
	Try to have similar goals, I guess, as far as like relationship-wise, like they want to find someone to get married to to tie down or to have more kids or whatever the case may be.
	Like, something more permanent, not just like, oh, this is, I'm just out dating or looking for a one-night stand, whatever.
	So, they're yeah, so they're catfishing you in with the idea that they want a long-term relationship when they really don't.
	Pretty much.
	Okay, well, let me ask you another question since we're on this topic.
	So, a woman challenged me recently.
	This was just a few weeks ago, and she's like, Listen, Andrew, you're a smart guy, you give a lot of shit, and I agree with a lot of the shit that you give, but this one thing, you're wrong.
	Men's profiles, dating profiles are way off base.
	Basically, all of them are the same.
	They all just talk about how they love the outdoors.
	And I was like, No, it can't be.
	It can't be like that, right?
	And she's like, Look, I'll show you.
	Take a look yourself.
	And I went through and looked, and she was right, right?
	It was pretty, it was pretty universal.
	Like, basically, all the men were like, I just love that was it.
	Holy fuck.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Phone went off.
	Yeah.
	Am I way off base there?
	You lost me with the whole outdoor stuff.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	Sorry.
	I'll just let you go.
	I mean, if I can say something, the only thing I think of when I heard you say that is when you talk a good game on dating sites and you're like meeting a guy and you actually meet them in person.
	Their appearance or how they carry themselves makes you think, oh, okay.
	Well, they were more interesting online, but actually seeing them, I probably just smashed and go about my business.
	So it depends on what you wear to the date, how you present yourself.
	A guy who's probably telling you he wants to, he wants a girlfriend, he wants a wife, and he meets you, like, oh, she has her chest out, her dress is short.
	I'm probably just going to one night stander and then not talk to her again.
	Come here.
	Dress accordingly.
	So I'll ask, they'll arrange the date, like where they're picking, like, say what restaurant or what our activities are doing.
	I dress accordingly.
	So say we're going to a five-star or like a Michelin rating restaurant.
	I dress accordingly.
	And if we're going to bowling, dress accordingly.
	I'm always in the gym, so majority of my tires are gym clothing anyway.
	But if I do go out on a date, I actually try and dress the part.
	All right, we have Melody here.
	Melody, you're a travel nurse.
	Correct.
	It does not matter how you dress, though, either.
	It really doesn't matter.
	Like, it's up to the guy.
	If the guy wants to be a slut and fuck you, that's what he's going to do.
	Or if he wants to be a husband and like come into a serious relationship, then he's going to do that.
	You could dress like a hooker and the guy might want to have you be his wife.
	It doesn't matter how you dress.
	I mean, for the record, I have zero experience with the dating app.
	This is my first time ever signing up, so I don't even know how it works.
	I agree.
	No, you know what I mean?
	It doesn't matter how you're dressing.
	It's up to you guys to decide that.
	Do you want, are you in the relationship to only screw her or to actually try to have something serious?
	That shouldn't matter on how you're dressing.
	So then why not just take naked profile pics?
	Because you'll get ready to do that.
	Man, let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	But why would you only just take naked profile pics?
	Would I want to do that?
	Would I want to have my body all exposed like that?
	If it doesn't matter how you're dressed, then why dress at all?
	Andrew is a nudist.
	I should just want you.
	I mean, it's a serious question.
	If it doesn't matter how you're dressed, if that's not a presentation of you and who you are, then why dress at all?
	Why dress at all?
	Yeah.
	Do you wear clothes every day?
	Because it's so good.
	I'm talking about on your dating app.
	I'm talking about on the dating app.
	If on the dating app, if the idea here is, it shouldn't matter how you dress.
	Who cares?
	Right.
	Some guys are going to like it if you dress or skimpy because they just, you know, they want to wife you up anyway.
	Some guys don't care, blah, Well, then, if you want to appeal to the most amount of men possible that I could think of to grab the most amount of attention, why put any clothes on?
	I'm appealing to myself.
	So for me, if I'm on a dating site, it's going to be what I want to show these guys.
	So if there's one picture I want to be sexy, if there's one picture I want to be smart, if there's one picture I want to be cute and dorky, it's up to me to do that.
	Why would you ask that question?
	Oh, just like, just take your clothes on.
	Does it have the idea on the dating site to net the certain type of man that you're A, the most attracted to, and B, has all the other criteria of the things you want?
	I'm not going to find that out on a dating site.
	I'm going to find that probably three months in when he stops giving me all his bullshit and shows me the real person that he is.
	Sorry?
	You could meet that person on a dating site.
	Yeah, you can.
	So you would put up the criteria that would weed out the people you don't want, right?
	Sometimes there's catfishes on those dating areas.
	I'll give you some like basic criteria.
	You're going to put in an age range.
	You're going to say, I don't want an 85-year-old, right?
	You're going to say, I don't want a guy who only makes $5,000 a year.
	You're going to say those types of things.
	I don't know.
	And on your dating profile?
	You'll do it.
	On your dating profile, do you say those things about girls?
	She has to make this amount of money to date you?
	Yeah, I think, yeah, for men with dating profiles, they'll say, you know, I don't want a woman who's 85.
	I want a woman between the ages of like 25 and 35 or 35 and 45.
	Or they'll say, I want a woman who's not plus size.
	They'll put in all sorts of criteria to rule out women they don't want, just like women will put in criteria to rule out men they don't want, right?
	Correct.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah, so I mean, if that's the case, then when you say, well, I have criteria for a man I want, they have to meet X criteria.
	Correct.
	I think everyone's criteria is different.
	Yeah, I agree.
	But for your criteria, if you're looking for like a husband who faithful and Christian and this and that, you clearly would not want to dress provocatively because those men would not respond to those kinds of women, right?
	Am I dressed provocatively right now?
	I'm just asking a question.
	You've asked me many today.
	I think I should get this one.
	You want to take your makeup off?
	I am.
	I'm ready for bet.
	No, you don't want to answer that question.
	It doesn't matter.
	I don't normally want to.
	Okay.
	Here, let me show you why this is frustrating for me.
	If I say yes, it doesn't matter.
	And if I say no, it doesn't matter.
	Neither thing applies to anything I'm saying right now.
	So here.
	So here, I'll show you.
	I'll actually demonstrate this for you.
	Yes, you're dressed provocatively.
	What does that have to do with what I just said?
	Okay, so in my profile picture, if I put this on my profile picture, that's making a man think that I'm not well suited to be a great wife.
	Sure.
	Now we'll hold that thought.
	No, you're not dressed provocatively.
	You just said that I was.
	Yeah, I know, but now I'm saying you're not.
	Can you apply how that has anything to do with what I just said?
	Either way.
	Am I not speaking English out?
	I don't know.
	Is it your second language?
	You look exotic.
	Thank you.
	It could be.
	Because, regardless of what my answer is, as to you dressing provocatively, has zero to do with the idea that if a woman wanted to net a man who had the criteria of doesn't want a whore, for instance, they would not dress provocatively because they would be giving the illusion that they were a whore.
	Or if the opposite could be true, where they're trying to just net a guy for the same night to fuck, they might dress whorish.
	That makes sense, right?
	Yep.
	That's why whether or not you personally are dressed provocatively has literally nothing to do with what we're talking about.
	Yep, okay.
	All right.
	You want to take that?
	I don't even think you understood what I just said.
	I'm just, at this point, I just kind of throw it in the towel.
	Well, I got some questions here.
	So moving over to Melody, who's just talking.
	Do you want to take your makeup off, by the way?
	No, I'm okay.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	By the way, you speak Spanish or what's your no, I'm Dominican.
	My parents are from DR, but I was raised here, born in the Bronx.
	Would they speak?
	Do they speak a different language?
	No, when I was growing up, we were near a lot of white people at the time.
	We were trying to get out of the Bronx.
	So I understand it's a little confusing to some people, but for me to kind of assimilate, she wouldn't want me speaking Spanish at the time because we were going to a really wider neighborhood.
	Cool.
	So, okay, your travel RN.
	How's dating as a travel nurse?
	Travel nursing is amazing.
	It's able to give me all the freedom that I need.
	So whether it's location or not working or working, depending on what I need to do, it's a great job.
	Damn, y'all look different without the makeup.
	I look the same.
	I look red.
	I look different without makeup.
	Yes.
	Really?
	She's the same.
	She looks the same.
	Yeah.
	You look the same.
	Or if you're not wearing makeup.
	I don't think I look the same.
	Dating experiences as a travel nurse.
	And how many different men did you date?
	As a travel nurse, I mean, I would never date somebody at work because shitting where you sleep is not it.
	But have like surgeons are pretty cool talking to surgeons.
	Other nurses I wouldn't date.
	How many surgeons have you had carnal knowledge with?
	One.
	Just one?
	Was he a brain surgeon?
	And were you a patient?
	I don't want to get him gas from this.
	No, he's actually, he's a cardiac surgeon.
	They don't gas people anymore.
	That was World War II.
	Okay.
	That was a bad joke.
	Okay.
	You were on the reality TV show.
	We talked about that.
	You said you went on a Tinder date for the first time and the guy completely catfished you.
	Mm-hmm.
	Like he was just fat.
	Like he was not the same man.
	Like completely different.
	Like he didn't even try playing.
	He didn't even try playing at all.
	Like blue eyes, brown eyes, like contacts.
	I was like, whoa.
	Whoa.
	So you weren't gonna go through with three hours of torture.
	So you told him to run back upstairs to get a charger for you.
	And then because you drove to pick him up, apparently.
	Yes, I drove him up.
	To pick him up.
	You were picking him up.
	He came in the car, but then I was like, yeah, this is not going to be a good one.
	Go to the charger, please.
	And then you dipped.
	At first, I was scrambling, like, how am I going to get this guy out of the car?
	Because he's thinking we're going to dinner.
	So at first, he was like, but isn't your phone charged?
	And I was like, oh, shit.
	I was like, just get it for later.
	Maybe I'm going to need it.
	So just quick on my toes, he left his Burberry scarf on my front on my front seat.
	So when he left, I skedaddled out of there.
	Skedaddled.
	Skedaddled.
	You skedaddled.
	Yeah, and I just threw his scarf out of the window.
	Damn.
	And so, right in front of his house.
	You dipped out and then you blocked him.
	Yeah.
	Was he so it was a totally different guy?
	It wasn't the one in the picture.
	Did he have filters on the dating apps or what?
	Who knows?
	What he has.
	Did he have filters?
	I think maybe it was him maybe a long time ago, plus contacts and like stuff like that.
	Okay.
	And then you also, okay, well, I guess that's kind of, I mean, if they totally catfish you, I guess that's that's fair.
	You said you're starting to like everyone but your type.
	Like, what is that about?
	Yeah, what's that about?
	Seriously.
	What do you mean?
	What do you mean?
	You're starting to like everyone but your type.
	So I used to like extremely hot, like ripped, steroid out, muscle juice, gym, right?
	Protein shaking guys, but now I just don't.
	Or even culturally, too.
	I used to only.
	Sorry?
	What do you like now?
	I think I'm kind of trying to experience other things.
	Like, I used to only like white guys, and now I'm kind of interested in like some more Spanish.
	Yeah.
	Black.
	Black.
	Asian?
	You know what's funny?
	Yeah, maybe.
	Because I like their culture a lot.
	Their food's awesome.
	Indigenous to Australia?
	Sure.
	Who's on it?
	Me?
	Yeah.
	Like, an indigenous.
	Indigenous?
	Okay.
	Native American.
	You got it.
	Like a Native American.
	They're hot too.
	Indians.
	I don't think they're called Native Americans in Australia, but or anything exotic.
	Anything exotic.
	The indigenous.
	Anything exotic.
	Yeah, sure.
	Anything exotic.
	That's cool.
	I'm into it.
	Before it was only white guys.
	Brian, Brian.
	Wait a second.
	Wait a second.
	This is way off days.
	What?
	Why would they not be called Native Americans in Australia, Brian?
	Why would they not be called Native Americans in Australia?
	You want to explain that to me?
	Because Australia.
	Well, she was like, that makes no sense.
	No, she said Native Americans, and I was like, no, I'm talking about Australians.
	Yeah, like you said.
	Yeah, but why would they not be called Native Americans in Australia?
	Because they're Native Australians.
	Oh.
	She said Native Australians.
	Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
	I'm kind of.
	What do we?
	I'm not.
	I'm confused.
	Okay.
	And then, Melody.
	So, what was your previous type was what again?
	White.
	White.
	Italian.
	German.
	Anything white.
	White.
	And ripped.
	Okay.
	And ripped.
	Okay.
	And tall?
	Tall too?
	I've dated guys not too tall.
	I've dated like 6'7, but the shortest one, 5'11.
	Cool story.
	And then you said, your words: I'm also acting different with men.
	I make sure they chase me first a little bit.
	I don't know.
	It's a new thing I'm doing, and it's not for the week.
	Emoji, smiley face, nervous sweat.
	Go on.
	So, what do you mean by make them chase you first?
	So, usually, I think, as women, when somebody asks you on a date, right, you're like, all right, yeah, I'll go.
	Recently, I think I wanted to see who isn't the weakest.
	Like, I want them kind of to hit me up again and be like, you know what?
	I know you were busy.
	I know that you were busy.
	Can we try again for dinner?
	So, at least I know that they're really, really interested.
	I'm kind of, I'm trying, I'm filtering out the week.
	The week, the week.
	I'm filtering out the week.
	Yeah, so just so I recap here.
	So, a guy asks you on a date, Friday at 5 p.m., you're free, but you'll intentionally tell him you're not free and see if he'll do a follow-up to do a reschedule.
	No, I think it's more so my time's more, my time is more for me.
	Like, even though I could be free, now I'm playing a different like, usually, I would be like, you know, I'll just go on this date, no problem.
	But now, I think I'm at a spot where I'm old enough where I'm like, you know what?
	I'm free, but not for you.
	Like, I'm gonna stay at home for me.
	So, that's why I'm getting a little bit more picky and selective with this kind of thing.
	It's not because I'm trying to play a game, I think it's just because my time is more valuable.
	Didn't you just say that like you'll say you're busy, but you're actually not, and then you in the middle?
	I just explained that when I tell him that I'm busy, it's busy for me.
	I want that day for myself.
	When I was younger, I would have to go on the date just because it's like, oh, this guy asked me on a date.
	I'm kind of into him.
	Let's go on it.
	Well, that's fine if you have things that you want to do, or if even there's a date, you don't want to do anything.
	So, technically, you're free, but I would tell them.
	I would say, you know what?
	Yeah, today is a night that I want for myself.
	So, maybe we could reschedule some other time.
	But what it sounds like you're doing is that maybe you'll even make a plan with a guy and you'll cancel on him to see how he responds.
	And you're going to wait for him to make a follow-up, like reschedule.
	I've done that before.
	Do I always do that?
	No, but have I played that game yet?
	Okay.
	Is there any other ways that you make them chase you, or is that kind of it?
	Um, the making chasing.
	I think just like Neptune, you shouldn't be so like ready for them whenever they want whenever they want you.
	Like, whenever, like, oh, let me take you to dinner, babe.
	Like, oh, like, hang out with me here.
	Like, there's some days you should be like, you know what?
	I'm busy.
	Okay, cool.
	Like, not always available.
	Yeah, not always available.
	The two available is not good.
	And then, Lioka.
	I think these are the last notes here for last person.
	Yeah.
	You said, as a Ukrainian woman who moved to Los Angeles in 2021, your dating experiences here have been challenging.
	You haven't had a successful relationship so far.
	Wait, can we pull up her Instagram?
	I think we had.
	Can we show the back of the head tattoo?
	I want to see the back of the head tattoo.
	That shit is interesting.
	Damn, son.
	Where do you find that?
	Gorgeous.
	Okay, that's that's a cool tattoo.
	That is badass.
	This is such a good tattoo.
	That's great.
	Okay, so most unusual dating experiences you had when you were 14.
	Can we talk about that?
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Okay, both of them happened because you registered on a dating app pretending to be 18.
	Yikes.
	That's a yikes song.
	What the fuck?
	Yeah.
	That's bro.
	You did you was it in the US?
	No, no, no.
	It was in Ukraine.
	What's the age of consent in Ukraine?
	16.
	Still not.
	Hey, I'm sorry to cut in, Brian.
	We're moving on 3 a.m.
	I have an appointment.
	I'm going to get to it in the morning.
	I'm going to send a raid over your way.
	Girls, it was very nice to meet you.
	I'm on the East Coast, so I'm three hours ahead.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	But very, very good to meet all of you guys.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Good to have you.
	By the way, with all the arguments, this and that, I take none of it personally.
	My job is to be here to provide adequate pushback to different ideologies.
	And I always enjoy the conversation.
	So thank you very much.
	Very, very, very nice to meet you.
	Bye.
	Appreciate the conversation.
	Thank you, Andrew.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Have a good night.
	Stay safe.
	All right.
	So.
	Andrew's a dilf.
	Okay.
	I think he heard that.
	Possibly.
	He will.
	Andrew's a dilf.
	Okay.
	There you have it.
	Where were we?
	Oh, okay.
	Sus?
	Yeah, the whole being 14 on a dating app, saying you're 18.
	That's kind of sketch.
	Yeah, for sure.
	One of them was with a very broke 24-year-old who came up with an idea of inviting me to his mom's apartment and at some point started desperately asking me to order pizza, saying he said he will just take one piece.
	You can have the whole thing, please.
	Yeah, in Ukraine?
	Yeah, he was really hungry.
	Was he malnourished?
	Or I have no idea.
	That was the last time I saw him, but it was just so weird.
	He was basically starving and he was begging me to order pizza.
	And he just kept saying, I'll just have one piece.
	You can have the whole thing.
	Can you just have the like, you know, only one piece?
	It was so heartbreaking, so weird.
	Plus, the age gap, you know, and the fact that he was in this position.
	It was weird.
	Okay.
	I did not.
	I just left.
	That's a yeah.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	You said people who are already in a long-term and truly happy relationship, how did they realize their person was the one?
	If they can recall any specific moment of such realization, you're trying to figure out how exactly you will understand you found your person, or is it always something that is obvious to our hearts?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that was my question to all of you guys.
	Could you please tell me to the guys or to everybody?
	All of you guys, everyone.
	Sure.
	How do you think you will feel that this is the one?
	I can like one of my ex-girlfriends, I was super sick, food poisoning, sick.
	So bad, like bad, you know?
	And she took care of me all night.
	And then that's when I was like.
	She's the one.
	She's the one.
	But she ended up.
	I mean, that's the nature of relationships, you know.
	Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.
	Is there any chance to actually sense at some point that this is exactly the person that would?
	I think so.
	That's not what I feel like that's when I was, I realized I was in love with her.
	Okay.
	I don't know if it was like the one.
	Yeah, but that's when I was like, that's when I knew.
	Yeah.
	Like when she took care of me.
	You know, there are some people that just say, okay, I met that woman and I immediately felt that this is going to be my wife.
	And it's been like 40 years since we, you know, started dating and like we married and we have family.
	You know, this kind of stories.
	And I'm wondering if that's just extremely rare or this is actually possible to meet someone and realize that this is the fate.
	This is exactly the person that will just lay in the same grave with me.
	I think I'll know.
	You'll know when that's like your husband of your feelings.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah.
	Serendipity moment.
	The guy that I'm currently with is the one.
	Oh, really?
	Period.
	Yeah.
	Is he 32 or 33?
	32.
	No, not his age, the body.
	Yes, 32, also.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah.
	What about all those other guys, though?
	I know, I mean, I was in love before, but I never thought that they were the one.
	Maybe like he's the one?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	It's like a feeling.
	Good times.
	In my heart, I'm like, I want to marry this man.
	And like, I've never thought that.
	Except for one guy in like high school, but that was high school.
	Yeah.
	And then you said the ick is a self-defense mechanism.
	By the way, let me just really quick.
	Okay, not yet.
	The ick is a self-defense mechanism.
	Getting the ick over small things is a convenient way to avoid emotional risk by finding an easy excuse to end things.
	Agree from the panel here?
	If you get the ick, he's not the one.
	Because I feel like with your man, he could do whatever he wants with you, and you're like, woo!
	Right.
	With somebody else, they could do like, they could just breathe.
	And you're like, if you feel any type of ick for this dude, like he's not.
	Yeah, he's not it.
	Okay, like, no, love everything about this person.
	All right.
	So final topic, final topic, then we'll do a row session.
	Then we're going to wrap the show.
	Age gaps.
	I think a few of you are in or have been in an age gap relationship.
	You've been right in an age gap relationship.
	You were in an age gap relationship?
	No.
	Or no, sorry, your parents, excuse me.
	Your parents are in an age gap relationship, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, what's their age gap?
	It was like, you said nine years or something?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, what's their age?
	What's their age gap?
	Like, when did they meet?
	How old were they when they met?
	I don't know, honestly.
	Probably like 20s and 30s.
	I don't really know.
	Okay.
	So going around the table, age gap relationships.
	Have you had one?
	And do you think they're okay?
	Brie, starting with you.
	Yes and yes.
	Into the mic.
	Yes and yes.
	Yes and yes.
	Okay.
	Yes and yes.
	All right.
	Yes and yes.
	Yes, but I forgot the second question.
	Oh, have you been in an age gap relationship and are you okay with age gap relationships?
	And no.
	You're not okay with them?
	No.
	Why?
	I mean, from experience, my age gap, I was 19.
	He was 28.
	And I, to this day, would say that was my first love.
	And now that I'm 27, I wouldn't date like an 18 or 19 year old because I feel like you have a lot of life to live.
	Well, I mean, I'll talk about my example, right?
	So basically, the guy I was with, you know, he was showing me and teaching me so many amazing things.
	And that is what might be ideal to some other people, what makes it appealing.
	But I also know that he was like intimate with me as if I was like a grown woman.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, I'm 19.
	So at this age, my mind is being blown.
	And I'm developing these feelings.
	I'm feeling certain ways by this magic work, whatever.
	And I feel like it just takes away From when you do get older and you experience guys your age not matching up to it, and it kind of like just deters you or just makes your dating experience an intimate experience with people, doesn't it?
	It doesn't ever equal up, I guess, the older you get with the people that are your age.
	Okay, uh, what about you?
	I agree with what she said, but I've been in an older relationship, so yes and yes, but I do agree with certain ages about that too.
	Okay, what about like a 30-year-old dating a 20-year-old?
	That's kind of what you said, no, 19 and 27.
	Yeah, I think that's the idea.
	It's really complicated because it when you say age cap, we're talking about like a big age gap, right?
	Like, not two years, no, no, not two years.
	I mean, typically, I think it depends on the age a little bit, but like I think after 20, it's like okay, anything after 20, right?
	No, and no, it gets like weird.
	Well, what would be wrong with that?
	Just because you, I don't know, but that's just something in my head that I feel like is I'm comfortable with more.
	Like, under 20, like a 20 to 30 is okay.
	I mean, even at even at 26, which was what I was yesterday, I wouldn't date anyone under 24.
	Well, that's you, right?
	Yeah, so I mean, that's by the way, guys.
	We're gonna do a row session in here in just a sec.
	TTS is now set to 20.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	No and no.
	Wait, so no.
	The age gap and no to in a relationship with anybody that's in the age gap.
	Like, no.
	So you wouldn't date a guy who's like 10 years older than you?
	Oh, I thought you said, have I?
	I don't know.
	That's open, but no, I have never.
	I'm open.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	But you, like, okay, how about this?
	A 30-year-old guy dating a 20-year-old.
	I don't care.
	That's the message.
	I'm older.
	I'm 34.
	So.
	You're asking if I would date someone younger?
	Or are you asking if I would?
	No, I'm asking, like, what you think about a guy who's dating a 30-year-old guy who's dating a 20-year-old?
	Neutral, because that's none of my business.
	I really don't care.
	That's totally fine.
	Objections from anybody on that?
	That's an age gap.
	I don't think that's appropriate.
	You don't think it's appropriate?
	By the way, I think is the Crucible here?
	Did they do little raids in the chat?
	Yo, Crucible crew.
	Thank you guys so much for joining.
	TTS is $20.
	We're going to do a row session here at the end here.
	If you guys want to get it in, I'm going to pause it.
	Just I'm going to pause it here for just a bit.
	So wait.
	Oh, and then your answer on this?
	Oh, I have never, and I probably would not.
	Okay.
	What's the oldest guy you've dated or would date, I guess?
	Would date?
	Probably like no more than like four, no more than four years.
	So you date like a senior in college or something?
	Yeah, I would.
	Okay.
	Rock and roll.
	What?
	I said something.
	I think she was yawning.
	Yeah, I was yawning.
	Oh, I thought that was in response to what she was saying.
	I was like, all right.
	Wait, so what's your objection to the age gaps?
	I mean, maturity, you know.
	Maturity.
	Like with your example, a 30-year-old and 20-year-old, you know, the mind doesn't stop, doesn't stop developing until you're 25, you know, the frontal lobe per se.
	I mean, that's a fact.
	You know, your mind doesn't stop, doesn't, you know, stop developing until you're 25, realistically.
	So a 20-year-old dating a 30-year-old, she's still learning what it is to even be a young lady.
	She transitions to a girl to now an adult, but an adult and a young girl.
	Are two different translations?
	She didn't transition to a girl.
	I mean, she converted.
	She converted.
	She was into a girl.
	You mean she was always a female?
	She was a female.
	Yeah, I mean.
	She's a female.
	I mean, yeah.
	So you have a girl turning into a woman, turning into a young adult.
	At 18, that's a good idea.
	Turning into a girl.
	Yeah, I mean, but you know what I mean?
	Like a young lady.
	Like, there's just transitions a woman has to go through.
	And if you catch her when she literally between 18 and 21, whatever.
	Catch her.
	Yeah.
	She's fucking pokeballing herself.
	Find her.
	If you find her between 18 and 21, I feel like there's a lot of developing she has to do, like to wrap her head around those years.
	Her upcoming 20s is a lot to process because they could still be in college.
	They could still be so.
	Yeah.
	So I'm just saying, like, there's a lot of things a woman has to, a girl has to experience when she's 20.
	More dick?
	What do you mean?
	What does she have to experience?
	Life.
	Life.
	With what?
	Her mental capacity, her emotional, how to handle her emotions.
	Because a 30-year-old man, he's working.
	A 30-year-old man is investing.
	A 30-year-old man is getting his life together and wanting things.
	For example, children in the next two, three years.
	And they're acquiring that from a young girl who hasn't wrapped her head around having children yet.
	But because she's with a 30-year-old.
	What would be wrong with her having kids within two or three years?
	Because she could be doing other things like traveling.
	Like what?
	Like traveling, going into her career.
	Person sex.
	Career.
	I'm naming other things.
	Like excelling more into her schooling, whether that's a master's or a bachelor's degree, experiencing why can't she do that?
	She's in a relationship.
	She's really good.
	She still can.
	She still can.
	What's your question?
	Oh, are you asking her though?
	Yeah, yeah, I'm asking her.
	She's still keen.
	Yeah, she can still do that stuff in a relationship.
	Right.
	But I mean, that has a lot of things to do.
	That's a lot of things on her plate.
	And a 30-year-old man who even has a time to entertain a woman might need more from that girl.
	He might support her going to school.
	But, you know, I don't know a 30-year-old man, but he's pursuing maybe a family in marriage.
	And she's doing this.
	She's not thinking about family marriage.
	A 20-year-old, right?
	So you're like, you're in college campus and a 30-year-old man is like what?
	That's weird.
	On Fifth Avenue and Wall Street with his job.
	If she's with a man.
	If a 20-year-old is with a man, she might develop wants of marriage, wants of being in a relationship, wants of having kids, especially if she has that influence on her.
	I feel like a 30-year-old man is very influential when it comes to career, when it comes to financial decisions, when it comes to marriage, when it comes to different things.
	And I feel like that's unnecessary pressure to put on a 20-year-old who's still starting out in life as a young adult.
	But she could be doing that.
	Don't you feel the same about the man?
	Like a 20-year-old man is just starting to live.
	They're still learning.
	So if they're still learning, are they really capable of being in a relationship?
	I mean, they could, I mean, like, are they really sitting there?
	Like a 20-year-old and a 20-year-old.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	What do you hear about people?
	They're studying together.
	They're creating goals together.
	They're not thinking about marriage and kids.
	Some are, but they're not immediately thinking about, oh my gosh, after we study, do you want to like have a kid right now?
	Your days don't add up at 30 years old.
	You're like in a job and career.
	You're trying to have a family.
	You're partying on your own.
	You're trying to have a kid.
	He said it was dating somebody that's 20 and then he's 20.
	You guys are doing it together.
	I know, but.
	It's like the time.
	Like that's the mental state.
	That's like the time where he's going to be outside.
	He's with you.
	That's acceptable.
	With you?
	Basically.
	Nah.
	He's outside with the mother.
	No, they're outside.
	I don't think they'll be outside with you is what I'm saying.
	So when they're young, they cheat.
	Right.
	It just is what it is.
	So what he's saying is a 30-year-old dating that 20-year-old.
	Do you think she's ready to date a 30-year-old?
	I think if she wants to.
	The date is.
	She wants to, for sure, but it hinders her from actually living.
	I think a better year.
	Wait, wait.
	It hinders her from what?
	Living and learning what it is to be younger.
	But you just said she's a little bit more than that.
	I think that he could teach her something.
	She could, but that would be learning more.
	That's a good argument.
	But a 30-year-old man is not hanging around with a 20-year-old girl and her friend smoking pot and doing little things.
	Like going to college bars.
	A 30-year-old man.
	How graphic.
	How do you say it if a 30-year-old girl?
	It's not going to a college-year-old bar unless it's looking.
	Yeah, no, you're right.
	She's looking for girls.
	Sorry, what's weird?
	How weird would it be if a 30-year-old man rolling up to a 20-year-old's campus is like, oh yeah, I'm dating the girl on campus.
	That's weird.
	That's weird.
	Like, probably shouldn't be like trolling at a fucking college party.
	Oh, that was your question.
	30 and 20.
	They're going to be on campus.
	30 and 20.
	But it doesn't mean that he's like hanging out at the college campus trying to meet.
	What if she slides into his DMs?
	I mean, like I said, it happens.
	It's possible.
	Do I frown upon it?
	Yes.
	Because it just hinders the young lady from doing things that she can learn.
	Doing what?
	Doing what though?
	I listed them for you, Brian.
	Learning, traveling if she wanted to.
	Yeah, because no one has that much control of power to tell you what can, what would hinder you or not.
	You are in control of yourself.
	But if you say he is influencing, maybe, but every individual is different.
	Like if they were to, say they were growing up in a household where they are actually taking care of their brother's sister, they were forced pretty much to mature early.
	Right.
	So they're more independent.
	They would not be easily steered away.
	So everybody's kind of different.
	Like at this point, I don't think matters with the age, to be honest.
	Right.
	I think it's about lifestyle.
	So if a 30-year-old has everything figured out, he's financially stable.
	He's mature and he's like, you know, oh, I'm supporting you doing this, you know, but you should drop out and I'll take care of you.
	You know, imagine a grown man saying, I'll take care of you.
	I'll pay for this.
	I'll pay for that because you're probably not even making money when you're in college.
	So if a man is trying to be in your life, I'll take care of you.
	And you see that he is, that might stop you from pursuing your education because you have that influence.
	So it's a versus each effect type of relationship.
	It just depends on the 30-year-old and it's on the 20-year-old.
	But I feel like they have so much not in common that it might fall into something that's negative rather than how old are you again?
	Yeah, I'm 27.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying from my experience, I'm in my 30s.
	I'm still trying to figure my shit out.
	Right.
	I mean, same for me.
	When I was 19, it was everybody in their 30s.
	It's like, why do you party so much?
	Why do you smoke so much?
	Why do you always want to go out?
	Why don't you do this?
	Why don't you do that?
	You are 28 wanting me to act like a 28-year-old.
	Not necessarily.
	Not all of you.
	I mean, from my personal experience.
	Not all 20-year-olds are smoking weed and being degenerate and part of it.
	Right, but some are and some are not.
	It might be a mismatch if it would probably be a mismatch if he's not into that.
	Right, but I mean, even some 20-year-olds who are in college still live with their parents and they would frown upon them with a 30-year-old picking up their child.
	Yeah, sure.
	Some of them, yeah.
	I mean, any father, you know, but here's a question for you because, like, a lot of younger women complain about all the fuckboys and none of these guys want to commitment.
	They don't want to be in a relationship.
	Like, I do wonder sometimes, like, I know you, I could see as a parent, like, oh, you might have concerns or might find it icky or whatever if like your 20-year-old daughter was dating a 30-year-old guy.
	But, like, assuming the 30-year-old guy had good intentions and he wanted a long-term relationship and he treated her well, wouldn't that be a superior scenario versus like she's just like going to college parties and fucking a new guy, like a guy her age, but fucking a new guy every single week?
	Right.
	So, like, wouldn't that be superior to date the older guy who wants commitment?
	Right.
	I, which I understand.
	I get that.
	But with the age gap that you told me, which was 30 and 20.
	Sure.
	Me, I would say personally, the age gap for me that I don't frown upon is seven and down.
	So, seven years apart is acceptable with everything that you said of them teaching them.
	As long as they're seven years apart, I said there's no problem with it.
	But I was like, 10 years is a deck.
	It's a decade.
	So I feel like there's a lot of.
	Decade.
	Is that wrong?
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	So I would say seven years.
	I think my cutoff is.
	Wait, hold on.
	I gotta be careful.
	It wouldn't it be like 12 years?
	Wait, if they don't remember 9-11, they're too young.
	Wait, if they don't remember, they don't remember 9-11, so that would make them like 25, would that?
	Would that be 25?
	Is that 2001?
	Um, I wasn't born yet.
	Would that be 20?
	I don't know what's the cut.
	I think be 24 23 20, so okay nine 2001, september.
	So if you're like, you start like having memories at five years old.
	If you're, wait, hold on.
	So that'd be like five plus 20, so like 26.
	Is that 25?
	26, it'd be 23 if it was 24 25 yeah, but he said five years old.
	You have memories of it, so you have to add that.
	Okay, I see seven ninety eight ninety, nine.
	Yeah i'll, I was, I was born 97, so I was five when it happened.
	Yeah, per age, that's the cutoff.
	Okay anyways um, I guess.
	Final question on this, um, should 18 year old women be allowed to vote?
	Oh, there's so many smart, educated 18 year olds who, but like, if they can't date a 30 year old guy?
	Because because when you're a young 18 year old right you, you're living off the scope of what you have access to.
	You're 18 so you can do this.
	You're 16 so you can get a permit.
	You're you, you have a scope of what you're living in.
	So if you, if you understand politics and what will trickle down to the age group that you're in, 18 year olds, don't they just?
	Well some, some are very bright, some are very smart okay, but like all, so they should.
	I think 18 year olds should be able to vote because some of them are politically, some of them are politically smart, because when you think of politics, a lot of the things that will happen if the things get elected or if things are voted upon, trickles down to universities.
	It trickles down to colleges and students are paying attention to that because it's gonna happen to their loans, it's gonna happen to their campus, it's gonna happen to their teachers.
	There can be like people, there can be 18 year olds who are like.
	I mean it's dubious, but I mean I suppose yes technically, an 18 year old could be like very well educated when it comes to politics.
	I don't know if they have the like requisite life experience to really have like a fully informed, like view, but in any case, every single 18 year old this includes like the dumb 18 year olds can vote.
	Should well, the question should, I think no, it's not.
	Should well, I guess what i'm trying to say is if like, we're allowing 18 year olds to be able to vote, then they should also be able to like have a consensual relationship with another adult.
	Right, you said 20 for the example.
	But sure 18 18, 18 year old can not date a guy.
	But not too long ago, 18 year olds were able to buy tobacco, so they took away that because they're, they're still youth.
	So logically yes, 18 year old, you're an adult and you you're, You're able to make the decision that you want to make.
	If you want to date a 30-year-old, go date a 30-year-old and you'll see if your life progresses or declines.
	But okay, so I'm a little confused here.
	So, are you in fit?
	You're saying you want to also rage the age of consent too?
	Consent?
	What do you mean?
	The age of consent.
	What do you mean?
	Because, like, a woman having sex with an 18-year-old versus like a woman, an 18-year-old having sex with an 18-year-old, I mean, the actual act of sex is not particularly different if she's having sex with like a 30-year-old.
	Yeah, I mean, she can do if she wants to do that, she'll do that.
	Only thing that's different is that that 30-year-old experience, what he's doing to her body is probably wouldn't, wouldn't what?
	Probably wouldn't be what an 18-year-old would be doing to her.
	I'm not a bad thing to be at home, you know?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure I totally follow there.
	So, I mean, I think you said if an 18-year-old does an 18-year-old, what's the difference of them doing a 30-year-old?
	The 30-year-old is going to rock her world.
	I know that.
	Wouldn't that be a good thing?
	Couldn't you just make the argument that like he's more sexually experienced, so the sex is going to be better?
	Yeah, that's that's that's facts.
	Okay, so I mean, in the long run, if it doesn't work out, or if it does work, so wait, you're you're making an argument that they should have sex with older men then.
	I'm not saying that, I'm saying if they were to, then the sex would be great because they're getting it from a man who has experience.
	But in the long run, if it doesn't work out, no one in their age ring will be able to compare to that.
	So, they might become promiscuous trying to seek that thrill that they received from a 30-year-old and in the same ages as them, and they're not going to find it.
	They're going to, oh, let me try this.
	It was so good.
	I want to reach that cosmic, you know, or that I got.
	Well, I have a question for you.
	You do escorting, right?
	Not currently.
	I used to.
	No, I thought you do currently.
	Currently, I do OF.
	Escorting, I don't know.
	So, a guy came along with $5,000, you wouldn't take it if a guy came along with $5,000 in what?
	For one hour.
	Yeah, I would go.
	Okay, so you would escort?
	Sure.
	So you're 27, right?
	Yes.
	18-year-old says, I want to pay you $5,000 to have sex.
	Yeah.
	That's what escorting is, right?
	I mean, you know, some escorting, not escorting sexuality.
	Do you accept?
	Let me think about it.
	What do you mean you think about it?
	You said, how much was it?
	$5,000.
	And he's 18.
	He's 18.
	For one hour.
	He's 18.
	No.
	Only because I have a cutoff, which is 24.
	I have a cutoff.
	Do you have a cutoff?
	Dating and being intimate with.
	Yes.
	Chad, do you believe her?
	When it comes to being dating and intimating, being intimate with someone is 28.
	Because, you know, I've been young.
	I've taken virginities before.
	I was young, you know, I was young at the time, so it makes sense.
	But for me to be a 27-year-old woman and taking a virginity of 18, 30 other prostitutes.
	Even in general, like I would, would I spend time with him?
	Sure.
	Would you have sex with that?
	But I wouldn't have sex with him.
	He's fucked 30 other prostitutes.
	I wouldn't have sex with him.
	Why not?
	Because I just pay you five.
	You wouldn't feel comfortable.
	I still consider them a child.
	Okay, he's 21.
	How about that?
	Then, and he's paying?
	Yeah.
	Then I'll make an exception.
	Okay, he's 20.
	No.
	He's 19.
	No.
	How's he literally?
	They're literally an adult.
	Okay, right.
	But this is the difference.
	When you said 21, I would accept.
	After 20, before 21.
	Would you date a 21-year-old?
	I wouldn't date a 21-year-old.
	But you'll take a 20-year-old.
	Yes, I would do those services with a 21-year-old because we can meet in public.
	I can get a fill for them.
	We can have a break.
	We're going to be in public for a date.
	We can have a drink and we could actually talk and have a good time.
	And then that ease into it.
	I feel like when you think of escorting, you think of contractual.
	You can actually enjoy your time with someone, have a drink, have a cocktail, and you're able to do that at 21.
	But a 20-year-old, he's going to be maybe stone-cold sober, like, eh, you know, like, but it's just more enjoyable when people are older.
	That's just me.
	It's just, that's just me.
	And if you're able to drink, then you're able to pay for my services and my times.
	If I were to be doing that, which I'm currently not, huh?
	Okay.
	I'm pretty, I mean, you say that.
	I do get the impression that if an 18-year-old was like, here's $5,000 and I want to smash, you'd probably, I say that.
	When you hear me say it, I'm backing $100,000.
	$100,000.
	$100,000.
	Do you do it?
	For an 18-year-old, no.
	I would think I would.
	Hex, though, is crazy.
	I would spend the time and do everything under the sun.
	Like, with sex, she asked me.
	Would you do it for a $2 bill?
	I'd probably do it for that.
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	Some chivalrous man would correct you across your cheek?
	Mind-boggling, dumb.
	You think so?
	Oh, damn.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Tick picker donated $20.
	Damn, that girl next to Brian is whiter than him.
	If they live up a child, he will start his life as a drop dot of milk.
	She's a little, she's got a bit more.
	Who's pale?
	I think you are.
	She's darker.
	She's darker.
	I mean, she's got me beat.
	Okay, we have shop.
	Chuck $1,990 donated $20.
	Hey, I don't care what anybody says, Chair 5.
	You are fine as hell big or not in 34 plus 511, 250 pounds of solid muscle.
	I can handle you, baby.
	Hand it me then.24 cents.
	People should get married and have children around 18 to 22.
	Current birth rates are going to end us.
	Be fruitful and multiply.
	Don't cater to mad and jealous 304s.
	Pure delusion.
	A little panel of red flags.
	I'm not jealous.
	Listen, see each is own.
	If an 18-year-old wants to date a 30-year-old, that's fine.
	Just because I think it's frowned upon, doesn't mean I think it's wrong.
	I just think it's not something that's not.
	Look, I just need a stay-at-home wife who's ready to pump out seven sons.
	See, in here, you're 35.
	Would you want a 20-year-old to do that for you?
	Why not?
	I'm saying she'll never have to work a day in her life again.
	What if she wants to work?
	What if she wants to go to school?
	You see your mindset as a 35-year-old man?
	You're saying a 20-year-old shouldn't have to do that.
	But what if they want to school?
	Yeah, school sucks.
	These people say they're not the girls that he's going to go for, regardless.
	Right.
	I'd love that stuff.
	He'd rather have a lot of people.
	I like Amish women.
	I like young girls who don't have anything.
	And that's okay.
	He's looking for someone else.
	Right.
	Look, I'm just saying, you know, never have to work again.
	I'll take care of everything.
	We're going to have seven sons.
	We're going to have a fucking.
	We're going to have a fucking.
	You're going to do her laundry and take her to Minneagle.
	She's doing the laundry first off.
	What's it called?
	We're going to have a.
	Make her bow.
	What's that word?
	Fuck.
	Damn.
	The word for a dynasty?
	Is that the word?
	A dynasty?
	Seven sons.
	Okay.
	Starting.
	What's that Bible verse?
	Which one?
	That I referenced.
	Hold on.
	Let me chat.
	Can somebody in the chat find me the Bible verse about the arrows?
	Sons in a man's you sons in a man's youth are like arrows in the hands of a warrior.
	Lucky is.
	Oh my god, I can't.
	I never remember it.
	You almost got it.
	Help me out.
	What is it?
	Is it Proverbs?
	Arrows, quiver, Bible, verse.
	Hey, we're almost done.
	Stay there.
	Okay.
	Like arrows in the hand of a warrior.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Let's find the good one.
	Sorry, one sec, guys.
	I got.
	Sorry.
	What the fuck, bro?
	Chat, find me the one with sons.
	No.
	Sorry, guys.
	You know, just here.
	I'll let one come in while I'm trying to figure this out.
	Vector donated $20.
	Bree, you were strange back when you were a sex worker.
	And now that you're no longer a sex worker, you're still strange.
	Awkward.
	That was funny.
	Okay.
	Still beautiful, though.
	Awkward.
	Okay.
	So, what is it?
	Psalm 127.4?
	Sorry, guys.
	I gotta find it.
	I have to find it.
	Oh, my.
	Dude, it will not.
	This is messed up.
	Okay, I'll come back to it, I guess.
	Gambit 90 donated $20.
	Care 5 believes the world would be a better place if girls were sluts.
	So you want all the panelists, moms.
	Sister and daughters were sluts.
	Why would any man sleep with you if he could get any women?
	Daniel, side note, I've never understood why the Germans decided to glue a brass butt plug onto the top of their helmets.
	I know the Germans have the best blank, but blank.
	No judgment in this to each their own.
	Patty donated $20.
	Care 6 looks like a welfare Osario Dawson.
	Oh, I'll take that.
	That's a compliment.
	That's a compliment.
	Thank you.
	I think there's more coming.
	Oh, Patty D. Thanks, Patty.
	Dave.
	You have the audacity to talk down about women who decide to be stay-at-home moms, but you literally sell yourself.
	Yes, a 20-year-old whose focus is my children is a better partner than you.
	I didn't find upon single moms.
	Daryl underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Chair 6 is from Westchester.
	We don't claim her dumbass in NYC.
	Stop talking for US.
	I was born in the Bronx, dude.
	But I'm checking applications for a side BTCH.
	Born in the Bronx North Central.
	Talk about it.
	Talk about it.
	Jay underscore house donated $20.
	Yeah, thank you, Jay House.
	From New York.
	The rest of the state hates NYC.
	It's the worst part of the state.
	Boomerang.
	Single X region has all the wineries, breweries, and distilleries.
	I promise no one cares about fingerlegs.
	If you want to be a stay-at-home mom, that's your prerogative, okay?
	Just know at 18, you can be doing a lot more.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Like what?
	I already list them for you, Ryan.
	You could be traveling.
	So you can be a slave to yourself.
	You could be in school for education and focus.
	To what?
	To what end?
	Getting your bachelor's, getting your master's, opening your own practice.
	Okay, so you get your bachelor's and for what purpose?
	To protect yourself.
	To make money.
	To get a job to make money.
	Okay, yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay, so you have a husband who you can just.
	It's like, you know, like in that board game, Monopoly, you can just like pass go.
	Okay, but that's if your husband, you're saying that's if you're their husband.
	If you have a husband, they're ready, they're ready, they're ready to have hope, maybe have kids and do all this good stuff, all this love making, having kids.
	At 20, how are you gonna try to pursue your house?
	You just pursue and have kids.
	And they want you to be a stay-at-home mom.
	Like, that want to pursue that kind of career path wouldn't go for the 30-year-old necessarily.
	So that's this is and I'm thinking of those girls.
	I'm thinking of those girls.
	If you have aspirations as a young 20-year-old, bro, y'all have traded.
	Okay, here's the thing: sorry.
	And you shouldn't be dating a 30-year-old, and a 30-year-old who now they're your husband, because now you're saying husband, you said date.
	But if a 30-year-old man is a 20-year-old woman's husband, he's ready to have kids.
	He's ready to pursue, well, if he should have his financial and his career solidified.
	But what if she's in school in this state and he works in this state?
	Now she has to go to go follow her husband and she could transfer schools, but it's like it's a miss.
	It's a, it's the continuation of education gets interrupted.
	And you know, she could interrupt it with children.
	You interrupt it with planning a wedding.
	You interrupt it with moving.
	You interrupt.
	There's so much things that can hinder you from being a successful 20-year-old if that's what you're doing.
	You can be done with college by 21.
	You could be done.
	So she can finish college, but I don't like, okay, so you go to college, right?
	For what?
	So you get an education so you can get a job, right?
	So look, first off, y'all have traded.
	Here was the old order of things.
	Date a man, he works a job.
	He can provide for the whole family on one paycheck.
	You don't have to work.
	You can stay home, take care of the kids, take care of the household.
	That's it.
	Now it's very difficult to take care to pay for a family on one income.
	Very difficult.
	That's sort of one of the ramifications of feminism.
	In any case, that's here.
	But y'all have traded that, the original order of things.
	Instead of being a housewife, you're like, if we're looking at it in the dynamic, the paradigm of being submissive, right?
	You've traded being submissive to your husband to being submissive to an employer.
	And your employer is going to be like fucking BDSM with you and shit.
	Okay.
	Like, I know that sounds crazy, but like most of most of you, the guys you date, they don't make nearly the same demands that your employer does.
	Okay.
	Show up at this time.
	Yeah, but they're not paying you.
	Right.
	Let them finish.
	But okay, so let me ask you a question, right?
	Okay.
	You're a girl.
	Not you, but like you could be a girl and you could date.
	You could go get a job working in some fucking corporation that doesn't give a fuck about you.
	And as soon as the bottom line doesn't make sense, as soon as you're just your ROI is lacking, fired.
	But I do not want double income households.
	Well, hold on.
	So you could do that or you could be a stay-at-home mom.
	Stay-at-home wife.
	Yeah.
	And he's taking care of all the finances.
	So then you have to depend on someone.
	Right.
	And to you have to depend on your employer.
	Right.
	So to answer that.
	To answer that, when you're saying being a stay-at-home mom, what's the downside of everything being paid for for you, right?
	Me, I'm Haitian.
	I was literally raised to be a housewife.
	I'm very traditional in that aspect when it comes to relationships.
	And I say that to say I wouldn't mind being a stay-at-home mom.
	I would actually love that lifestyle because I could actually pursue my passions.
	Now, the downside of doing that is you saying, oh, you're working and getting paid under a clock compared to being at home.
	The difference between a boss and getting paid on the clock, and it's like, oh, you're slaving for the man is if you're actually doing it, like being a nurse, you're doing it for passion.
	It's not just you're doing it for the man.
	You got a nurse right here.
	You're doing it for the passion.
	It's a passion that you're doing.
	You're not doing it for the man.
	I need my patients the more.
	Of course, both.
	You could do things for both.
	And for you to think that you, the reason why you pick a job, you're on a podcast, right?
	Because you're passionate about that.
	Right.
	So why can't I enjoy it?
	Well, I enjoy helping you.
	I wasn't getting paid.
	No, I would not be.
	I'm getting paid too.
	Right.
	So, but you wouldn't be.
	Would you be a nurse for free?
	Would you do this for free?
	No, I wouldn't.
	There you go.
	That doesn't even answer the question.
	That's what you're saying.
	Yeah, but your point is being a housewife and not having to take care of and having money to come in because it's the same thing as working and slaving hours in a day, right?
	I would do this for free.
	Are you saying that's the same thing?
	Those correlate?
	Are you saying those correlate?
	What correlates?
	Being a housewife and having everything paid for by your husband is the same.
	Is the same as working under employment and slaving under a clock?
	We're almost done.
	Just wait.
	Just come back.
	Yeah, that's crazy.
	We've been on here for like a week.
	We're almost wrapped.
	Just wait.
	Brian, it's what you are, guys.
	It's 12.
	It's about a minute.
	Ta-ta.
	Ta-ya.
	Ta-ta.
	Tie.
	Tai-la.
	Hey, say, Instagram.
	Can't be on the ground.
	You don't get to plug.
	You don't get to plug.
	Yeah, we get to plug.
	We've been here for eight hours.
	Just get out.
	Just grab it.
	Good.
	Keep it moving.
	So you're correlating.
	You don't even get added on the thing either.
	What's up?
	You're correlating the two?
	Huh?
	Oh, you're leaving too?
	I'm not leaving.
	I'm not leaving.
	Okay.
	We're almost wrapped up.
	But you were correlating the two.
	Being a stay-at-home mom and having everything paid for by their husband is equivalent as working under the man and slaving in a clock.
	No, I think you're going to be, your employer is going to have way more expectations of you than your boyfriend or husband.
	Right.
	So where you're wrong is that that employer is not impregnating you and you having to have kids.
	That employer is not, you know, required to have you stay and not work because you have to take care of kids.
	An employer is not doing that.
	So that's that's it's not this doesn't work.
	It doesn't work.
	I gotta get a flight.
	We're almost done.
	We're almost wrapped.
	But yeah.
	You can be a stay-at-home mom.
	I love that.
	I want that shit.
	Okay.
	That happens to happen.
	But look, it's just, here's what's funny.
	It's like you'll be submissive to your employer, the cold corporation, your boss, but it's like you won't be, this goes back to like the bowing, the laundry thing, but you won't be submissive to a man who loves you and who you love him.
	And it's like, it's just crazy to me.
	Yeah.
	Not having your employer's kids.
	I can be submissive.
	You said she could be treated as a kid.
	I can be submissive.
	I love it.
	You said you wouldn't bow, right?
	But bowing is not being submitted to.
	That's not what submissive is.
	That is exactly what I'm saying.
	I think holding laundry is like you're being submitted.
	You want to cater to him.
	That's being submissive.
	Yeah.
	And he says, how would it not be submissive if he says, do this and you don't do it?
	Why would, or the bowing thing?
	Is that like a sexual thing?
	What is equivalent to this?
	It's equivalent to that.
	Have you had girls bow for you?
	Bow for you.
	Hold on just one second.
	All right.
	Hey, guys, back there.
	You guys, you can't just linger.
	If you're going to talk back there, you got to leave.
	I support single moms.
	That's your fucking thing.
	You got to go.
	I have many single moms who are my close friends.
	Guys watch this podcast or girls.
	I never really watch this podcast.
	Like maybe it's mixed 80% guys.
	Oh, really?
	It's 80% men.
	That's why.
	Okay, that makes a lot of sense.
	You guys saw the links.
	Wow.
	What makes sense?
	Because if a lot of women would watch this podcast, you wouldn't be saying this, like the Bowdow thing.
	Unless it's like a cute thing, but do you really mean that?
	Like, do you want her to bow?
	If the audience was 100% women, I would say the same shit.
	You'd be getting a lot more backlash.
	I don't care.
	Yeah, me too.
	I don't care what backlash I got either.
	Yeah, but why?
	So we're here for that.
	We're here for the backlash.
	Why would I filter?
	Why would I filter it?
	I would say the exact same thing.
	It was just something that.
	You think I'd pander to the female audience?
	Depending on what you want.
	I think men don't have any.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No, I would not pander to the female audience.
	Oh, yeah, honey.
	What do you got?
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me let's let the rest.
	Oh my god, there's a lot.
	Okay, I'm gonna let the rest come through there and winter up.
	Old man Marine donated $20.
	Working sucks.
	That's why you strumpets choose to do off.
	Women don't have to work.
	You suck at it, always calling out your links, and in the end, most wish they found a man that took care of them.
	Only one person does OF, and that's me.
	And I work in healthcare.
	I work in healthcare for five years.
	Oh, I found the Bible verse, by the way.
	It is like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the sons born in one's youth.
	Happy is the man who has filled his quiver with them.
	I like that one.
	It's nice.
	Okay.
	We have more chats coming through.
	Wait, hold on.
	Im notron blunderscore on underscore X donated $20.
	Bought once on the Stream Labs Law Veterans Day.
	Pray for the men and women holding it down.
	God bless Casey and Captain Cho.
	Stay healthy today, boys.
	Till Valhalla Brothers.
	Devont Jackson donated $20.
	See, you just did it again.
	Could be doing a lot more like charging $250 for their holes.
	You said O'Brien wants a woman with no aspirations to shame him and her.
	You're disgusting.
	I didn't say that.
	He said that's what he wanted.
	A woman that's not pursuing.
	But like, what?
	Okay, she's going to get some fucking HR job, make $60K a year.
	Why?
	Like, at least for me, look, I know most guys, I'm, you know, there's.
	How much is that $20 an hour guy making?
	What?
	For dinner, remember?
	The dinner?
	The guy at dinner?
	$20 an hour.
	Look, I'm just saying.
	$60K.
	I know, like, a lot of men are not in my position.
	Maybe that's kind of.
	Maybe I shouldn't speak to it.
	But if I'm making seven figures a year, yeah.
	Like, I don't give a fuck about your 60K job.
	Yeah, but that's the difference.
	No, aspirations.
	That's what he desires.
	That's not a point I'm making.
	If you're my girl and you're like taking care of me and then eventually our kids, you're going to free me up so I can go out and make another $200,000.
	I agree with you.
	So it's like if you make my life easier and that enables me to make an extra $200,000 a year because my life is easier.
	But what about the budget?
	Meaning she doesn't have to work.
	She doesn't have to go to school.
	What's that?
	Meaning she doesn't have to work.
	She doesn't have to go to school.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, I agree with that one.
	Yeah, I agree with that one.
	There you go.
	Daniel Nosseri donated $20.
	You girls really need to grow a sense of humor.
	Everything is not about how special you all are.
	None of you are the special snowflakes that you imagine inside of your delusional minds that you are.
	Aw, we're all special YouTube.
	I want special underscore baseman donated $20.25.
	Uh-oh.
	I agree with you, but how are you gonna quote the Bible for your own arguments when you ain't even asking for Jesus as your savior?
	Also, lose the tubby bum.
	Put down the meritos.
	Well, actually, I mean, I actually don't think there's anything wrong.
	Like, you could be an atheist and, like, see truth in the Bible.
	And you could see the wisdom.
	Like, I actually don't think there's any objection there.
	Yeah, no one argues the Bible better than an atheist.
	Literally.
	Literally.
	Yeah, I don't think there's true.
	GMD Jim donated $20.
	Maturity is not age or education related.
	I live around and do business with the Amish.
	Their 18-year-old women are far more mature than anyone at the table.
	Too bad they won't marry outsiders.
	Mythic donated $20.
	Legendary trash simp, stop being a drunk fucking simping on women on the podcast.
	Leave the Ukrainian alone.
	She gets gassed up enough by foreign men while her own are holding the line for them.
	Tickpicker donated $20.
	Girl in chair one is gorgeous.
	While Atena girls are so pretty and tan, you should have a baby with her, Brian.
	That way he won't look like a line of coke.
	Justin Martin's donated $20.
	Anissa's probably the only girl on panel tonight with a valid point.
	Also, Brian, do you identify as a mushroom?
	You seem like a fungi.
	I don't even get that.
	What is that?
	I don't even know that.
	Fun guy.
	Paddy donated $20.
	Chair 5 keeps mentioning her Haitian nationality.
	Has anyone checked to see if she's been to Springfield?
	I was born and raised in Florida.
	Thank you.
	And have a nice night.
	And it's my birthday.
	Happy birthday.
	That's great.
	Reality check donated $20.
	Chair 5 I'd quat spigger, your belt size or your delusional ego.
	Only positive in your life is your husband will be a working man.
	He will need a forklift certificate to carry you over the threshold.
	And I'll go to the thresholder.
	This fat BTCH is annoying.
	My wife had her three kids 30 years old.
	My oldest is 17, my youngest is 10.
	She prioritized family over a career and now in her 30s started her career and lives a great life.
	Well, that's good for her.
	Snapmore donated $19.99.
	Why get married and have kids at 18?
	You could be traveling, getting experience, catching or less DDS.
	You could plan to get in debt and get into feminism studies.
	You could get pregnant and just abort.
	Or you can travel and enjoy life.
	Chair 5 looks like she was in nutty professor the clubs.
	Her and fat boy Andrew have two huge things in common.
	Them huge sweaty tick old bitties.
	Big old ticks.
	I get it all the time.
	My comments on Instagram are even crazier.
	She gets paid more than you do, which are a certain amount of money.
	Chair 6, a stupider.
	He goes viral every day and is dragged on Twitter by women who only watch clips of him saying what he just said.
	Y'all are so fucking bad at gotches and go to non-sequiturs.
	never seen this podcast before jackson donated 20 dollars she aspires to be a mom you fat dumb strumpet absolutely That's her aspiration.
	I have literally five godkids and three nephews and one niece.
	I love children.
	I love kids.
	Gambit 90 donated $20.
	Stop profit.
	Brian, read Proverbs 5:3 to 6.
	You could use it for have turned Christian girls.
	We see through the grift.
	She did not turn that on.
	Yo, Gambit, thank you so much, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have a couple super chats here.
	Anissa, I'm going to have you read these, okay?
	Deep breath.
	Go ahead.
	Read it.
	Oh, down there.
	Yeah.
	The blonde girl.
	No, no, no, read on screen.
	This.
	It's not there.
	It's not there.
	You don't see it?
	No.
	You don't see that.
	The name, the name, babes.
	Robert Martinez.
	Thank you, Robert Martinez.
	Appreciate it.
	The blonde girl next to drunk plus Brian equals Drian is young enough for you, Drian.
	She's not a grandpa like all the other girls.
	She's not a virgin, so she's not wifey material.
	Men only marry teenage virgins.
	Man like that.
	Wait, is this supposed to be like?
	Okay.
	I'm not wrong, bruh, on X. Veterans Day, pray for the men and women holding it down.
	God bless Casey and Captain Cho.
	Stay healthy today, boys.
	Till Valhalla Brothers.
	Anissa, can you just take a bite out of that hiccup?
	Hiccups biting it.
	Just bite the part that she didn't bite.
	It's crazy work.
	Here, do you want mine?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	Final call.
	Last call on the $20 TTS.
	Then we're going to wrap up the show.
	Final call, guys.
	Final call.
	Let's see if there's any final thoughts from any panelists here.
	Anything you want to debate?
	I had so much fun.
	It was so fun to see everybody's thought processes.
	It's just different.
	Everyone has such a different.
	It was so fun.
	Are you being condescending?
	Yes, I'm being condescending.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	So much fun.
	Different takes are great.
	I had a good time.
	I enjoyed this birthday.
	I enjoyed it.
	Well, we're not done yet.
	Not done?
	Yeah, just yeah, we're almost done.
	Go ahead.
	Take your seat.
	Let's see here.
	We've got this master.
	I prefer Sir, but I'll accept it.
	Hey, Bronx.
	Bro, bro, bro.
	The Haitian is fat because she eats too many dogs and cats.
	Also, why don't you switch to Rumble?
	They have better rules.
	Also, what happened to Maddie the Asian girl?
	Oh, I already addressed it a previous stream.
	She resigned.
	On good terms, though.
	Haitians do not eat cats and dogs, but I guess it's ha-hakiki.
	Lily Bear underscore loves underscore Randy Bear donated $20.
	Hi, baby.
	Just a reminder, I love you so much.
	Also, just in STF you, Panda, do you smell?
	Mara, you are the best.
	Yep.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	T-S-K-T-S-K-T-S-K-T-Y.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	Old man Marine donated $20.
	Happy birthday to any other Marines out there.
	Scorpio.
	Simplify.
	Scorpio gang.
	Yo, Dariel Frank Castle.
	Thank you so much, man.
	Brian, chair six, claiming she's from the Bronx is not a flex.
	Oh, wait, I already see why they start reading.
	Ariel underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Brian, chair six, claiming she's from the Bronx is not a flex.
	I love the Bronx.
	I believe Trump should build a wall around the Bronx to keep them confined in.
	Trump should have build the wall.
	Well, he's building one, I'm sure.
	What was his saying about the wall?
	To keep the wall.
	Build the wall.
	He was screaming it.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay, guys.
	Like the video.
	We're going to wrap up here.
	Was there any final thoughts from anybody else, or I think that's it?
	The Yankee Stadium's in the Bronx.
	He's vlogging that guy.
	He's crazy.
	Talking about the Bronx like that.
	Don't do that.
	Official dog.
	Don't do it with a Z. All right, guys.
	So, GG to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
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	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, we're going to do a Twitch raid.
	Let me see who we're going to raid.
	One sec, guys.
	Okay, we're going to raid Frostadamus over there on Twitch.
	He's playing World of Warcraft classic.
	He's playing hardcore.
	Classic.
	He's level 44, hardcore warrior.
	That's impressive.
	Let's get that going here.
	Chair six is fucking annoying, literally showing why she isn't submissive while trying to say she's submissive.
	Oh, did I?
	Sorry, Dave.
	That's from Dayvon.
	I didn't mean to read that out loud, though.
	No worries.
	Who's that?
	The guy who's been sending in chats.
	Hi, Dave.
	What's up, Dayvon?
	What's up?
	What's up?
	How are you doing, man?
	Let's get the raid going if you can get that pulled up.
	Frost of Domas.
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you guys so much for watching on Twitch.
	Drop us a follow on Twitch.
	Drop us a hide that.
	Guys, before I send you over to him, can you tell him he needs to are you?
	Believe me, I'm really.
	I'm literally about to wrap.
	Can you just sit for like a minute?
	She's about to hit me, by the way.
	Did you see that?
	She's very violent.
	She's very violent.
	I think.
	Do you want to admit, have you ever done domestic abuse?
	I got hit before, yes.
	No, did I mean, did you ever hit somebody?
	Yeah, no.
	First.
	Okay, all right.
	All right, guys, I'm going to send the raid over.
	She was.
	All right.
	Tell him he needs to kill his warrior.
	And I'll donate Polish.
	You said we were wrapping up, though, no?
	Nice, good.
	Oh, my God.
	Relax, lady.
	Calm down.
	It is pretty nice.
	Eight hours later.
	Oh, my God.
	Shut up.
	All right.
	The raid's going out.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Appreciate it.
	Good night.
	Is he a different language?
	A different culture.
	He lives in Romania.
	He's Romanian.
	Romanian.
	They are about to raid.
	It looks like they're heading into a dungeon.
	They're going to raid.
	What is it?
	I know which one this is.
	Oldemon.
	Are they about to do Oldemon?
	Is that what it is?
	Oh, hold on.
	Sorry.
	I got to send the fucking raid.
	My bad, guys.
	I got to send the raid, boys.
	They're doing Oldemon.
	Hardcore, World of Warcraft.
	He's a tank, boys.
	He's going to tank this shit.
	Whoa, Brian, with a huge raid.
	Let's go, boys.
	Tell him to kill this character.
	Tell him to kill his character, boys.
	Let's go.
	All right, that should have sent.
	I've been watching the stream this morning.
	Woke up like quite early.
	Welcome, welcome, everyone.
	Thank you very much, Brian.
	Hope you had a great stream.
	All right.
	We're about to do a dungeon here.
	We're playing World of Warcraft hardcore.
	Oh, that's fun.
	All right.
	Okay, cool.
	And then, oh, last TTS, and then we're wrapping.
	Dariel Underscore Frank Castle 512 donated $20.
	Puerto Rican from Brooklyn.
	We all know the Bronx sucks.
	If the nukes were ever sent our way, it should definitely send to the Bronx.
	What part of Brooklyn are you from?
	You're probably a hippie.
	Hipster.
	Anyways, that's it, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	Thank you for tuning in.
	She's right, Brooklyn Zoat.
	My bad.
	She's what?
	She's right, Brooklyn Zoe.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Well, good night, guys.
	I hope you guys have a good night.

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