Whatever Podcast - Diagnosed Psychopath E-Girl?! Doomsday Desiree DESTROYED By Based Grace & Shina?!

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Diagnosed Psychopath E-Girl?! Doomsday Desiree DESTROYED By Based Grace & Shina?! | Dating Talk #186

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	Guys, me and Andrew Wilson, Maddie Vu, and Desiree, we were, there it is.
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	Very cellulite without and the whole thing.
	I think you scarred our audience.
	I am really traumatized.
	Anyways, I mean, it was just.
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	My children found out about it.
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	Anyways, me and Andrew had a little therapy together for that one.
	No, they were like, get it, girl.
	They actually asked me how many of them are your kids.
	They're not your friends.
	Anyways, so.
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	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	My name is Shirley Ju.
	I'm 33 years old.
	I'm based in Los Angeles.
	I'm a journalist on camera host.
	I have my own show called Shovi Temple on YouTube.
	Go subscribe.
	Okay.
	And what you do anything else besides the podcast?
	Like you do interviews too, right?
	Yeah, I'm a journalist, so I do a lot of interviews.
	I've been doing interviews for like 14, 15 years.
	Any specific genre?
	Hip-hop is where I got my start, I guess.
	Are you still involved in hip-hop?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	My name is Desiree Noel.
	Tell your mic down for me.
	I am 38 from Southern California.
	I don't know.
	So I was thinking about this, like what to call myself.
	It was almost causing me a panic attack yesterday, and then I thought, well, I'll just tell Brian to give his synopsis of who he thinks I am, and then we'll just go with that.
	But then I had a mastermind with the ladies pre-gaming.
	Oh my god, who the hell cash?
	Well, I came up with a job title.
	It is what did we call it?
	I am a single mom survivor of the pandemic.
	All within.
	So basically, I'm like the vice president at this point.
	Anyway, I'm ready to run.
	All right.
	Wait, can you pop your glasses off?
	It's casting a little glare.
	Yep, I can't see.
	It's probably for the best that you can see what the chat is saying.
	Okay, well, that's not a lie.
	It's probably honestly.
	Totally.
	Just if I get a headache, I'll put it back on for a little bit.
	Sounds good.
	Sounds good.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Vic.
	I'm 23, and I'm a content creator on TikTok.
	Where are you from?
	The East Coast.
	Okay.
	And what kind of content do you make?
	I mostly do social commentary, and a lot of my pages centered around educating people on mental health, most usually ASPD, which is what I'm diagnosed with, and ADHD.
	All right.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	So you have ASPD, but how do you typically frame it?
	I typically frame it as psychopathy because that is what it was called in the past.
	ASPD kind of encompasses both psychopathy and sociopathy.
	I literally just was coming to this conclusion myself.
	Sorry.
	I'm so excited.
	Grab the mic and put it in your mouth, please.
	I'd prefer you not to have it.
	Just a knee-jerk reaction.
	Sorry.
	Lucky to me.
	So, can you allow her to finish her introduction?
	I mean, I don't know that there's more to introduce.
	I mean, that's basically the cracks in my mind.
	And so, diagnosed psychopath.
	Correct.
	And although you said that psychopathy can't be diagnosed, is that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And just curious, so how does your psychopathy manifest itself for you?
	I'm not 100% sure what the question for that is.
	Do you mean how do my symptoms of ASPD present, or why do I call myself a psychopath?
	Well, yeah, so I guess let's go to the ASPD, so antisocial personality disorder.
	What diagnostic metrics did you meet to get that diagnosis?
	Okay, so there's like, I'm not a mental health professional, by the way, everybody that's listening.
	But you were diagnosed with that, correct?
	I was diagnosed with that.
	So there's a lot of criteria for it, but the main ones that I met, which are the ones that present the most in me, is manipulation, lack of empathy, impulsivity to an extent, kind of like risk-seeking behaviors.
	That's kind of why I went and got my diagnosis to begin with, because I was doing so many risky behaviors for no reason.
	So yeah, I. At what age were you diagnosed?
	19.
	19.
	Okay.
	And so, and the risky behaviors, was that throughout the course of your whole life, or did it start a little bit later?
	It was pretty much the same throughout my whole life, except for it got really, like, really extra during the pandemic because I was really, really bored.
	Chronic boredom is part of the disorder, but really bored, had nothing to do, kind of got myself into a lot of really not good things.
	And then decided I didn't want to die young, so I needed to change something.
	What kind, if you're fine with sharing, what kind of risky behavior?
	Like, basically, I would put myself in really life-threatening positions.
	Like, I would go travel a lot and just sleep on the streets or stay with random people that I just met, like, whatever.
	Probably should have gotten trafficked.
	But then, I don't know.
	I also got into a lot of heavier drug abuse and things like that, which that is like what ended up with me almost dying being in the hospital.
	I don't know, a bunch of other random things.
	I, you know, being just being in risky situations and like exacerbating the risk instead of taking myself out of it, if that makes sense.
	And is there, when it comes to the risky situations, like, for example, a normal person might have like a fear response, but are you lacking in fear response?
	Like, you don't have fear, basically?
	Yeah, so it's basically like a lack of a fear response.
	The way that I like to describe it when I talk to people about it is it's kind of like a video game.
	It's like you're playing a video game and a prompt comes up on your screen and tells you, okay, if you continue with this, like this could happen.
	Are you okay with that?
	Yes or no?
	And then you click yes or no.
	And I always click yes because I always think, oh, that's not going to, nothing bad's ever going to happen.
	Like, I'm fine.
	And I'm not really afraid of it.
	So it's kind of like, it's very, it's a very non-emotional.
	It's an adolescent, it's an adolescent kind of mindset where you're invincible.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Over-inflated sense of just that you'll live.
	I don't even want to say over-inflated sense of self.
	It's just an over-inflated sense of like, I'm not going to die, so what's the worst that can happen?
	I'll go bang, who cares?
	Very like, almost manic in a way.
	It's grandiose, which is also part of the criteria, but it's just like having this idea that everything, like everything, you can control everything and nothing bad will ever happen to you.
	And so you're not scared of anything because you don't think anything could happen.
	And you mentioned one of the ways it manifests itself for you is manipulation.
	So how might that, when you say manipulation, is it with friends, family?
	Yeah, like strangers, all of the above.
	So how might you manipulate somebody?
	Or have you, I suppose?
	How have I manipulated people?
	I mean, like, I think talking about manipulation is difficult because, I mean, everybody's manipulative in their own ways.
	They're just not, you know, conscious of it.
	But I think the point of being manipulative is obviously getting the things that you want out of life.
	And so I always know how to get what I ultimately want out of a situation.
	Like, how do I maneuver the situation to get the outcome that I want from it?
	And people pleasing, essentially.
	That's a big, that's one.
	That's one that happens.
	But yeah, I don't, I mean, maybe, maybe I'll think of examples or I'll demonstrate or something.
	I mean, it's not a topic I'm super familiar with.
	Who are some like famous psychopaths in history?
	In history?
	Jeffrey Dahmer, maybe?
	Jeffrey Dahmer's actually not.
	He's not like considered a psychopath.
	Actually, there's like a whole debate on I think he would be considered a sociopath.
	Because a psychopath doesn't need relationships with anybody else.
	They will manipulate literally through algorithms.
	That's a psychopath.
	A sociopath needs, they're more along the lines of a narcissist, like just an extreme narcissist.
	So they need an energetic supply from actually human sources.
	They're not happy just being the puppet masters.
	So Jeffrey Dahmer is a sociopath.
	Jeffrey Dahmer definitely Ted Bunny is a great psychopath.
	He's a psychopath.
	I don't like promoting like criminals as like mascots for my disorder because that's really people usually know.
	That's what people use.
	Let's think of a female one, maybe, or something that's less.
	Anna Delvey, have y'all seen Inventing Anna?
	Great.
	Now, okay, of course, the TV show Inventing Anna is a fictionalized version of real events.
	So the fictional character Anna Delvey in that show, I think, is like a really, really good example of a real-life psychopath.
	Oh, and then Elon Musk.
	I believe he's a psychopath.
	We heard that for sure.
	I mean, he could live on Mars.
	He doesn't give a fuck about human contact.
	So when it comes to this, is there a tendency towards criminality for people who have this diagnosis?
	Yeah.
	More so than the general population.
	Yeah.
	But the intelligent ones learn how to do like white-collar crimes, basically.
	They basically learn how to fly under the radar.
	It's the less intelligent ones that are actually getting into prison and educated.
	And is there a tendency for like to have violent inclinations?
	No, that's not a part of the diagnostic criteria for psychopaths.
	But that is actually a misnomer that will be caught up with very soon.
	The next DM, DSM coming out will be updated because now we are learning that psychological tactics, psychological manipulation, verbal assaults or whatever you want to call them, emotional abuse, narcissistic abuse, those things damage you just as much, is not worse than physical violence.
	Because when you have a physical violence, you can see right there the trauma that's caused.
	So everybody knows how to tend to you.
	You have a broken bone.
	We're going to reset it.
	It'll be better.
	Here's pain medicine.
	You have coherence between what your eyes saw happen and what your body is experiencing.
	When you have a verbal assault, emotional assault, anything like that, it's like a thousand cuts.
	You start to just spontaneously combust yourself.
	You start to use drugs, abuse your own body.
	So they get you to essentially off yourself slowly.
	So it's even worse.
	It's like making you go through this torture.
	And then you have to do that.
	Yes, there are, I suppose there are different forms of violence.
	There can be physical, mental health.
	So all I'm saying is that it's a tactic.
	Okay, sure.
	But when I'm saying violent, I'm just speaking about physical violence.
	Clinically, clinically, violent tendencies are not a part of the ASPD criteria.
	It's not inherent to the disorder.
	And most people think it is because that's like what the meteor media portrayal is.
	And, you know, it can be comorbid, but that's just classic sadism, right?
	And sadism and psychopathy are not the same thing.
	They can go hand in hand.
	And when they go hand in hand, that's what makes a really dangerous person.
	And that's like why we know these people in the media because those are the people that everyone's interested in learning about.
	A lot of women, a lot of women that do OnlyFan, in their subconscious, they're being sadistic to themselves because they're over and over raping themselves by letting this guy abuse them.
	Exactly.
	And that's an example of what I'm talking about.
	Their own dads did that damage to them.
	So their dad literally acted as a.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, hi, my name's Riley.
	I'm 31 and I'm a recording artist.
	Where are you from?
	I'm from LA.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	What kind of music do you do?
	It's like some witchy.
	Oh, it's witchy, like RB, chat.
	Witchy.
	Yeah.
	What is that?
	Dark, moody, creepy.
	Like emo, emo.
	It's not necessarily emo.
	More of it is like something bad's going to happen, but we don't know yet.
	And intriguing in a way.
	Are you a rapper?
	Are you singing?
	Can we hear something?
	Yeah.
	Oh, sing.
	Sing right now.
	Yeah, go for it.
	No, I don't know what to say.
	What should I sing right now?
	Your singer?
	Number one singer.
	Your favorite song right now.
	What's it stuck in your head?
	Like my favorite song when stuck in my head.
	Oh my God.
	Something that you can sing the lyrics to as it comes out.
	Oh, this is the song.
	So this is random, but I've been listening to Michelle Branch's like throwback music.
	I don't know if anyone else likes Michelle Branch as much as I did.
	Wait, what's her big song?
	Can you sing it?
	Can you sing it?
	I think I know what you're talking about.
	She has a song.
	It's called Are You Happy Now?
	And I've been feeling like that on the inside.
	So it's, what's the words?
	Look.
	Don't just walk away.
	Pretending everything's okay.
	And I don't care about it.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's right.
	That's my shit right now.
	I'm so glad you sang on this one.
	She's a throwback.
	Oh, that's it.
	That's it.
	Yes, you're a singer.
	Thank you.
	I'll hear, but you have a good voice.
	Thank you.
	Wait, do you know how to sing everywhere?
	Everywhere?
	By Michelle Burranche?
	No, no, no.
	I thought you made the showing her.
	More like emo songs.
	She has like dark songs.
	Yeah, like that one was everything, like the video.
	What about you?
	Well, hi, I'm Giselle.
	I'm 20 and I'm just a student here at UCSB.
	Not just a student?
	That's a big deal.
	Everything.
	Right.
	Yes, it is.
	Very, very.
	I went to UCSB.
	Wait, you went to UCSB?
	I was here for two years.
	I drowned in alcohol and I transferred.
	Yeah, non-serious.
	No joke, right?
	You went in alcohol.
	No, I became an alcoholic.
	What year are you?
	I'm a third year.
	Okay, yeah.
	Wow.
	What do you study?
	I'm a double major in psych and brain sciences and sociology and a minor.
	No, no, we need to.
	No.
	No point.
	Okay, okay.
	You're like, I need it.
	Psych was hard.
	It was.
	See in that class.
	No, I can't.
	And it's probably harder now because everything's so crazy right now.
	Yes, I know.
	I can't do it anymore.
	Everyone's crazy.
	They're just my theory is that the mentally healthy amongst people.
	Hold on, we don't need like everything.
	Okay, sorry.
	We don't need equip every single person.
	Where are you from originally?
	Originally from Guanacoto, Mexico.
	Oh, yeah.
	But I stay in LA.
	I stay in LA.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	What about you?
	I'm Sheena.
	Welcome back.
	How are you?
	I'm 50 and I'm an entrepreneur.
	I was an actress for 20 years in Israel.
	But I'm doing a whole bunch of things.
	Now I'm a motivational speaker and my book coming out.
	What's the title for the book?
	I don't have it.
	Can you believe it?
	We're still debating.
	Isn't it so stressful, right?
	Yes.
	All right, welcome back.
	Thanks.
	Hi.
	What about you?
	My name is Jennifer.
	I'm 26, almost 27.
	I'm coming from Salzonos, originally from El Salvador.
	So, yeah.
	You said you're a student?
	No, well, I have a general degree in psychology in child development.
	So, yeah.
	And what do you do for work?
	I do, I'm a lift driver.
	Lyft driver?
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name's Allison.
	I am 30 and I am an evangelist and I work for a technology company.
	All right.
	Where are you from?
	I grew up in Wisconsin, but I live in Texas for the last nine years.
	All right.
	Welcome back.
	Thank you.
	It's nice to be back.
	Go ahead.
	My name's Grace.
	I'm 19.
	I'm a student at UCSB.
	I'm originally from Sacramento, so California.
	Okay.
	And what are you studying?
	I'm studying math.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, that's set.
	Ooh, you got like that man brain going on over there.
	Tell me freshman.
	Like, I'm a math major.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	But it was too hard.
	You could do anything.
	It's no freaking joke.
	It's no freaking joke.
	Well, if you enjoy math, I mean, math is just puzzles.
	It's just fun.
	True, algebra.
	But those of us with an art brain and a love for math, we have to go more with like formula logic.
	Okay.
	We can't do like.
	We don't have to.
	I'm just saying our brain computes it better.
	Thinking in almost like universal code rather than like little titanium.
	We have to be able to apply it to life.
	Otherwise, we don't give a fuck, basically.
	Desiree, what's two plus two?
	Divided two core.
	Four.
	Okay, you changed your answer on that.
	I mean, I would have said infinite atoms, but nobody knows how to do actual math anymore.
	So, I mean, they switched the math, though, legit, you guys.
	They switched.
	I don't know if y'all have kids.
	I do math.
	They switched the fucking math.
	I can't do it.
	My school are going to like Common Core now.
	I don't even understand how to do the math of the kids.
	Like, the days are the way it's not like.
	Hold on.
	Guys, guys, guys.
	Only one person can speak at a time.
	So if somebody starts speaking before you, you gotta let them finish.
	Go ahead.
	You know, you're excited.
	I was just gonna say, they did change it just because I have cousins that are like elementary school.
	Now they're like middle school level.
	And they changed it to like Common Core math.
	So now it's like a completely different way of actually solving math.
	Like trying to divide now.
	They're like doing some weird like treeway or something instead of like the normal.
	And they started it literally right before the pandemic when we all had to homeschool our kids.
	So we literally like guys, guys, only one person can be speaking at a time.
	Whoever starts first, you gotta let them finish.
	Go ahead.
	Let me tell you, in Salvador, it's completely different math.
	When I got here in high school, it was just like, what?
	Like everything backwards?
	I'm like, no.
	Difficult.
	Peace out.
	In America, they work hard to destroy everybody's brain.
	So going around the table once more.
	Actually, before we do that, we need your dog to be introduced.
	I forgot.
	This is Slim.
	Slim?
	Oh, my goodness.
	This is Eudie.
	You have a nice haircut.
	Thank you for having me.
	The real Slim Shih Tzu on Instagram.
	Inspired by my favorite rapper, Eminem.
	Thank you.
	Wait, guys, guys, guys, guys.
	For the third time, only one person speaking at a time.
	You jumble the audio for the viewers.
	She's speaking.
	Let her talk.
	Go ahead.
	Inspired by my favorite rapper, Eminem, the real Slim Shih Tzu on Instagram.
	He's my co-host in my interviews.
	He says hi.
	Hi.
	And it's a service dog.
	Service animal, yes.
	Okay.
	That's why he's so well behaved.
	And he helps me with that.
	And is it, it's like, is it because of a disability?
	I have a lot of mental illnesses, I do, but we don't have to go into that.
	I know that this is.
	So, the second question I have is: so, what work or task has the dog been trying to do?
	I saw this coming.
	I'm ready.
	I'm ready for this answer.
	He helps me with my medication.
	Helps you with your medication?
	I don't need that.
	To regulate your medications?
	Don't worry about it.
	It seemed to me like.
	Like he delivers the medication to you.
	I think it's working for them, obviously.
	They're here.
	He's just trying to figure out what she means.
	We don't have to cry.
	I mean, in reality, he saved my.
	He likes my wife.
	He likes your bong?
	Like, what do you mean, helps?
	Yeah, how does he help you with your medication?
	Are you saying that?
	Because I smoke weed?
	Yes.
	The judgment.
	The judgment is like, why am I judging?
	If you said, isn't weed medication?
	He's helping you with your medication.
	Oh, wow.
	That was a great connect.
	Wow.
	It seemed like your own judgment.
	I mean, if I'm being completely honest, he saved my life mental health-wise, if I'm being completely honest.
	Can I be completely honest about something?
	It seemed to me like in America, it's like fashionable or trendy a lot of women's mind, right?
	To say that they have mental illnesses.
	And I didn't really understand it until my son came from college and said, Mom, I'm not going to date American girls because everybody either on Xanax or any psychiatric pills, everybody talks about their mental illness.
	Nobody thrive to be normal anymore.
	Everybody just rides on that crazy horse.
	It's ridiculous.
	I mean, I don't like playing crazy, but I'm an addict and I've been to rehab twice.
	And we're basically addicted because I used to work with addicts.
	Just a second, I'm speaking.
	I'm not disrespecting you being an addict, but I just think when you live and surround yourself by women that always talk about their mental illness and the pills they're taking, you're going to stay in this paradigm of loop of being psycho.
	But if you surround yourself by women who don't talk about their mental illness and them being a mother and have to do OnlyFans and all this sorry bullshit, then you're going to become more normal.
	I actually think it's healthy to speak about your mental illness because I think the more we talk about it with one person, the more people are going to not feel ashamed.
	It's not about being ashamed.
	You lost my.
	Wait a second.
	Sorry, I'm not this discard what you're saying, but it's really important for me that you understand my point.
	When you, it's okay to talk about your mental illness, but when you surround yourself in a society which is happening, I'm not originally American.
	Thank God I'm American now.
	But when I sit in so many types of society in America, right?
	Surrounding by American women, only they talk about Xanax, mental illness, bad childhood.
	This is not what I'm talking about, though.
	I create a show called Shirley's Temple with a focus on mental health so celebrities could come on and talk about their experiences, talk about how therapy helped them or didn't help them, talk about how they got their life together.
	I shouldn't be a little bit more.
	It's a healing journey.
	It's basically here to tell people that you need to take care of your mental health.
	It's amazing that you do that.
	And I feel you.
	You don't want to people throw around the word depression, anxiety all the time.
	Because when you talk about it, you just bring it into your life.
	Instead of saying, yes, I was through a little issue, just a second, I was on a little bit of issue because she's jumping every two seconds.
	Don't be a parent.
	Let me speak.
	So when you put yourself surrounded with women all the time, all the time talk about their mental illness, you're going to stay mentally ill.
	You're not talking about it.
	You're talking about it in a negative way.
	You're talking about pills and Xanax.
	What does that have to do with mental health?
	If you're an addict, maybe you're not.
	What are you talking about?
	I'm talking about the regular person who hasn't tried pills or Xanax.
	There's no regular people, everybody taking pills in this country.
	I've not seen anyone.
	I've struggled with my mental health for 20 years and I never took anything.
	But a lot of people, a lot of women.
	I feel bad for the people because I was that person too.
	I was addicted to pills.
	Prometheus 73 donated $200.
	Desiree has narcissistic personality disorder.
	Oh.
	Has to be center of attention always and will gaslight anyone anytime.
	But then says sorry, but can't STF you.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, $200.
	They say that.
	Yo, Prometheus, thank you for the TTS.
	Desiree, do you have a quick response to TTS?
	And I'll have you guys continue to do it.
	Some people call me autistic and some people call me narcissist.
	There you go.
	So it is whatever your view is.
	Are you diagnosed with autism?
	Yes, yes, moderate autism.
	But I'm of the genius savant type.
	So my IQ is 145.
	Oh my gosh.
	What's it out of?
	Words.
	Are you diagnosed with an idiot Savon?
	Einstein was around 140.
	But you're not Einstein and you're not idiot Savon.
	No, I'm Desiree.
	If you're an idiot Savon, you should be diagnosed by that.
	And Savon is actually a genius and you're not obviously a genius.
	What is an autistic person?
	I love her.
	Do you know autistic?
	I love me too.
	No, I'm asking you.
	What is an autistic person?
	What is an autistic person?
	It's a neurodivergence.
	It's a form of neurodivergence where basically my whole nervous system is much more sensitive than a typical person.
	I would say it has nothing to do with it.
	I'm definitely diagnosed with Autistic.
	And that has nothing to do with it.
	It's one of them.
	You're autistic?
	Yeah.
	Just raise your hand.
	Are you autistic?
	Show of hands.
	Can we get an autism check?
	Autism.
	Autism check.
	Autism.
	Very autistic.
	One in the chat if you're autistic.
	Two in the chat if you're not autistic.
	One in the chat if you're autism.
	You have nervous system problems.
	Just autism check, real quick.
	Check.
	You guys were having a back and forth.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	You want me to say something?
	Yeah, continue.
	You guys can.
	I want to say something to you.
	I'm not against you.
	Don't get me wrong.
	But I want to say something.
	I saw your interview with him a couple times.
	No, no, her.
	I was like, what?
	And I see, no, not you.
	And I see how you talk today.
	And I'll be honest with you, a woman to a woman, right?
	I'm not judging you just from seeing a lot of things around me.
	I think you're a good person with a good heart.
	I just think that you're surrounded by people that feed your disease of narcissism by talking about yourself all the time, explaining all the time, interrupting all the time, thinking you know everything all the time.
	Nothing goes around.
	Just a second.
	And I think if you step out of that paradigm for a minute and just listen and absorb instead of talking about yourself all the time and put yourself in a center in such a negative way and think like you know it all, I think it's going to heal you and it's going to open your mind and expand you as a person to see yourself and absorb yourself from the side.
	Because when a person always thinks, I'm this and I'm this and this and this, he doesn't realize how people absorb him.
	And you come into a situation like you came with him last time or with the other guy, Jason.
	Jason, Andrew, sorry, last time.
	And then this thing stayed forever online and people can see it.
	And you made embarrassment out of yourself and out of your kids.
	And you should not do it because I think you're a good-hearted person.
	I actually agree with you, and I would call that my masculine shield.
	So I developed that defense mechanism.
	It's actually an intimacy issue.
	So when I feel like not safe in an environment, I put up that cockiness or the condescendence or thinking that I know it all or have to figure it all out.
	So I totally agree with you, and it's not my best self.
	I really do appreciate the feedback.
	And this show has been a great learning lesson for me.
	I personally haven't felt embarrassed by any of it.
	My kids haven't been embarrassed by it.
	So the embarrassment would be a projection.
	Can I say something?
	Can I respond to this specifically?
	Sure.
	You might don't think that your kids would be embarrassed, but I want to tell you something.
	Your kids grew up with you.
	You are the role model.
	Okay?
	You are the mother for your son.
	I don't know if you have sons, but for your son, you are the first woman in his life.
	You are the model of the next 10 women or 20 woman, whatever he's going to have in his life.
	So he writes the world of me.
	Wait a second, he thinks the world of you now, but I have a my son is almost 22 years old, okay?
	So, your kid's going through steps when your son is gonna be 25 or 26 or 40, and they're gonna look back because life in life, you only you can only live life forward and understand them backwards.
	You don't want to look back backwards to your life, right?
	And then say, Oh my god, I made a fool out of myself.
	And then your son is gonna grow up and see these things on the media and think, What the hell?
	This is the woman I was looking up to?
	No, actually, the way that I see it is that my children look back at my more messy times of life and they feel able to be open with me because they see my humanness and my process.
	And I explained to them all along the way, you know what?
	God, I was a shit show in that season.
	I am so sorry, you guys.
	In fact, the kids talk about my son, brings this up often.
	He said, Mom, remember when you first left dad and we lived in a different place like every four months?
	And I was like, Oh, God, here's the trauma coming.
	I'm gonna have to like apologize.
	And what he said is, actually, that was so fun, mom.
	It was super fun.
	Like, I never knew where we were gonna go, but we're gonna do it.
	You know why they say it's super fun?
	You want to know why they say it's super fun?
	Hold on, I'll just go and leave you.
	I have $200, Desiree.
	You're not a seven.
	You're crazy, delusional, and insanely narcissistic.
	The only thing that's 140 plus is your body count.
	You need help.
	Love you, Sheena.
	Day, please listen, not just here.
	Quick response to that, but I do have to move it on.
	Okay.
	I mean, everybody's crazy in some ways.
	Wait, let me say, what you're saying, all these little remarks you're saying, it's literally your mechanism, your defense mechanism to generate to justify it in your own brain.
	When you say, oh, my son, you said in kind of like funny, laughy way, like it's okay, like you legitimize it.
	You literally, this is your defense mechanism to feel okay about what's going on.
	You need to go.
	And maybe it's what actually happened, and I don't think my friend, I don't think he's going to be able to do it.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I do have to move it on.
	I'm sorry.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I have to move on.
	So, going back to this, your service dog.
	I did not actually get an answer.
	So, your dog.
	Hey, and well met.
	Oh, Law Paladins denied you $200.02.
	I'll have to fix it.
	Ryan outdid himself with this panel.
	You all are bragging and competing to see who is the craziest.
	You're all winning the Special Olympics.
	Stop bragging about your mental illnesses.
	Yo, Law Paladins.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	202 cents.
	Thank you, Aya.
	That's some kinky shit.
	Well, I wasn't.
	Appreciate it, Law Paladins.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	So, surely, your dog gets you helps you.
	That was a joke, but no one picked up on that.
	Someone told me if you say he helps you with medications, no one can say shit.
	But he saved my life.
	He saved my mental health.
	No, but so what work or task has the dog been trained to perform?
	I mean, emotional support.
	So, wait, this is a service dog or an ESA?
	He's an ESA.
	You said it's a service dog?
	Yeah, he is a service dog, too.
	No, there's a difference.
	I mean, he's both.
	He's both.
	Yes.
	Yes, so, but should we move on?
	It's an ESA.
	Should we move on?
	It's an ESA, right?
	I have that too.
	Do you have dogs?
	You clearly don't.
	What does that have to do?
	Do you have dogs?
	Let's say I have to do that.
	You have a stuffed dog.
	What would that have to do with anything?
	Because you would understand what a dog, how a dog can change your life.
	It's just having someone else in your life instead of.
	Well, I've actually had two dogs throughout my life.
	So you get it.
	So why are you pressing me about Slim?
	Do you have kids?
	I don't.
	That makes sense.
	Do you?
	I do.
	Oh, damn.
	Yeah, I could never.
	I could never.
	Guys, guys, reminder, into the mics, please.
	Sorry.
	When you're speaking.
	Okay, so.
	But.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I like dogs, but the whole like service animal thing.
	It's like the mental illness in America.
	Everything, it's bullshit, and everybody lied to each other, you know?
	Shirley, is it bullshit?
	Hey, fine, the hustle.
	I get the hustle.
	You want the dog with you?
	I get the hustle, but is it bullshit?
	Be honest.
	I paid for a service dog certificate so I could fly with him on the dog.
	They pay for the bullshit.
	That's exactly what I'm talking about.
	In America, I can go get a service dog.
	I can go fucking get money from the government and bullshit them that I'm mentally ill.
	This is this country.
	They're nurturing psychos and idiots.
	It's normal.
	The dog just told me that.
	Well, if they do that, then they get them hooked in the system, and then you start going on medication, and then from there, you get addicted to the power.
	I kind of have the smart animal.
	The dog is like shocked.
	I can say that they're in the battery into the matrix.
	So, look, you're smart.
	What's up with all the quips?
	Look, okay, so I guess my issue with the whole like service dog thing, because there are people who gen, I mean, not to downplay whatever you have going on, but I'm actually like trying to look at it from the other perspective.
	There are people who genuinely, no offense, need a service animal.
	Exactly.
	And when there's a bunch of people that are doing it for like selfish reasons so that they can't.
	I don't think it's a selfish reason.
	Not for you personally.
	Instead of having to spend, I don't know how many hundreds of dollars it is to like put your dog in.
	I actually put him in board and train.
	Dude.
	What do you mean?
	Are you talking about putting your dog in training?
	Like in the, I don't know what it's called when you put it in the undercarriage or of the.
	Because remember, if you have a service animal, you have to like give it to someone and then they train and then they give you certified.
	I put him in training but to be able to get training, no.
	So there's dog training, there's dog training, but typically did you buy, did you adopt or like, you bought the dog when he was a?
	My friend gave me the dog.
	Did you buy the dog when he was a puppy?
	My friend gave me the dog.
	How old's the dog?
	He was like six weeks.
	Oh, six weeks when you got the dog.
	Yeah, okay.
	So I guess look, the point I'm trying to make here, I understand, is like people understand where you're coming from, people who legitimately have service animals, like they help them if they have a seizure, for sure, but like now, nobody takes them seriously or as seriously, because a lot of people in an effort in furtherance of being like well, it's easier to travel if I just call this a service animal, but it's not actually a service animal, but like I can just travel.
	No, you can.
	Let me finish my fucking sentence.
	People are less likely, people are less likely to believe people who genuinely have service animals.
	So um, I mean yeah, I will say yeah, it is for selfish reasons.
	He does help with my anxiety, he helps with my depression.
	There's no such a thing anxiety.
	So does my dog.
	But like I don't get my dog as a service animal, I mean he's also my co-host, he's like part of my brand, like everyone who sees me out knows.
	Yeah, I mean so basically, my bad, my bad, can I, can I say something?
	It's more like a principle thing, go ahead yeah, okay.
	So let me, let me tell you how I see it from the side.
	Right, you have your dog as the decoration for your career, for your image as a decoration.
	Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second.
	Okay, you feel like does anyone wait a second, wait a second, wait a second other than one second wait?
	It's not my point, wait.
	My point is that in America, a lot of the women not just in America, all over the world today, because of the radical feminism right a lot of the women.
	It's more logical to them to have a dog, age without children and thinking, the dog is there.
	All their life.
	They spend all their money savings.
	They spend like taking them to the doctor, surgery, illness, whatever it is, wasting their life until they're 40, 45, 40, whatever.
	They wake up, but they spend all their time with an animal instead of having kids.
	I mean, I don't have a man, so I don't have let me ask you something.
	Do you think if you wouldn't have a dog, you would have a career?
	Wait, what?
	If your dog wasn't with you, like you said, he didn't.
	I got him at the end of my life during the pandemic, so that has nothing to do with it.
	And you have your business for 14 years, right?
	Yeah, I've been doing this for 14 years.
	So, yeah, like does it all establish?
	Like, do you get like, what's your condition?
	Like, what does he help you with?
	Weird.
	Just like that.
	Her mental illness could be a lesson.
	She was struggling during the pandemic, like a lot of us were.
	I mean, just in life, but yeah.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	The pandemic for the pandemic.
	I didn't get him.
	I just think we got to.
	Wait, the pandemic, you guys talking about the pandemic.
	The pandemic was the best time to make the most money.
	Exactly.
	You can make a lot of money, but not through OnlyFans, not through exposing your body on the internet.
	It was a lot of works that you could do in the pandemic to make money.
	You know, it's not an opportunity.
	You don't have to be.
	Just a sexual content.
	It doesn't matter, but the image.
	The image.
	Listen to me.
	The image of OnlyFans, even if you don't expose your body and everything, the image of that just being there, it's a damage itself, right?
	Wait, what other ways can you make money during the pandemic?
	Oh, a lot of ways.
	A lot of ways.
	A lot.
	A lot of ways.
	Okay, first of all, you have TikTok shop, which became OnlyFans are very user-based.
	Not to be selling content.
	I don't sell it anymore.
	She asked a question.
	I just want to answer and you can answer after.
	I asked the question.
	Yeah, you asked, What other way we can make money in the pandemic?
	I'm just curious.
	Pandemic, you got a lot of money from the government, right?
	It was a lot of jobs you could do because nobody lived the house.
	Okay, I'm not going to spread everything now, but this is the most, the time that I made a lot of money, right?
	So you just need to expand.
	You know what's the problem with American mentality?
	And when I'm saying American mentality, you could be Asian American, black American, whatever, Middle Eastern American.
	The mentality here is, oh, I don't have a job.
	Oh, I don't make money.
	Just yawning and getting exactly victimizing.
	And the thing is, you have a social security, right?
	I came to America with nothing, with $2,000 and a six-year-old son.
	And I saw, wait a second.
	And I saw when I walked down the street, I saw so many homelesses.
	And I said, you know what?
	These homelesses have social security.
	They have social security.
	They can build.
	I had to work my ass off to get my social security.
	When you have a social security, America secretly, how do you say socialistic country?
	And not like how they call it, capitalistic or whatever.
	So this country gives you a lot of benefit.
	You have free medical care.
	They said, no, but it's true.
	If you go to downtown, you have hospitals for free.
	You get a free education.
	You get books.
	You get help with food.
	You get everything.
	If you're smart, okay, and you think out of the box and researching, when you have a social security and you have American passport, you can make a lot of money.
	The problem, the majority of people and women, especially in this country, are entitled, prostitute mentality, want to find a man that pays for everything.
	They're lazy.
	They rather lay on their stomach and have sex and take money from that than to go.
	When I didn't have money, I went and cleaned Airbnb houses.
	And you know what?
	I'm proud of myself.
	I made the most I've ever made in the pandemic, so I'm not disagreeing with you.
	I was just curious what other means.
	I can give you advice later.
	You still have to do it.
	Like I said, I made the most I've ever made in the pandemic.
	I was just curious about what you were doing.
	So you know.
	Yeah.
	Well, I do got to move it on, but so we're going to go around the table once more.
	What's everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married polycule sex, cults, harem, whatever it may be?
	Yes.
	What is terror mean?
	What does that mean, I think?
	Harem?
	Yeah, what is that one?
	Like a harem?
	Yeah, I don't know the word, sorry.
	I guess it's when you're a guy and you have like a flock of women.
	30 flock.
	30 women.
	A following.
	I don't know.
	Groupies.
	Yeah, groupies.
	Yeah, I was curious.
	Yeah.
	I can Google that.
	There's another one.
	Yeah, how do you spell that?
	To get you.
	Is that an Arab word?
	So a harem, the separate part of a Muslim household reserved for wives.
	Haram.
	No, no, no, no.
	Harem.
	Reserved for wives, concubines, and female servants.
	How do you spell that?
	I speak Arabic.
	I never heard that word.
	So, yeah.
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy donated $200.
	Brixen, I see the frustration on your face.
	Keep the math student on your left, the best actress in the middle, the singer in the corner, and the dot so we can finish the show on the show.
	Shout out the dog.
	There you go.
	The dog.
	Shout out to the dog.
	Shout out for the titanium.
	Thank you, Patriarchy.
	Thank you for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it, girl.
	Thank you.
	Actually, Pelagic says, Dunn and Kruger effect is real.
	The blonde narc is beyond delusional.
	Quick response, Desiree, if you have one.
	He's talking to me?
	Probably.
	Well, you gotta be delusional to get anywhere these days.
	I mean, really good.
	I'm a 19th.
	Well, you're 19, honey.
	Wait another 20 years.
	You'll find out how sane you are.
	I don't think so because she had another dad.
	You could see she was brought up well by her parents.
	Yes, I did.
	She did.
	I'm like raised by the motherfucker.
	Anyways, okay, so relationship status.
	Go ahead.
	I think I'm single.
	You think you're single?
	I'm single.
	You have sex with a dog?
	The dog watches.
	Did she exactly if I have sex with a single?
	I'm joking.
	I'm joking because you said you think you're single.
	I suppose it's probably a little bit different.
	Isn't that like the put peanut butter on your song?
	Longest relationship?
	My last one, it was like almost three years.
	Three years?
	Almost.
	Okay.
	How long have you been single for?
	November?
	A year?
	A year.
	Yeah, it's a year.
	That is a good one.
	November?
	Since November?
	I don't know how long that's been.
	Anyone watch Deadpool with the dog?
	I had a dunny and you need one?
	I swear.
	Dog and its long-ass tongue.
	The dunny is emotional support.
	Oh, my God.
	The dog is a dog.
	Wait, so how long have you been single?
	Since November, I think.
	Eight months?
	Nine months?
	Ten months?
	Yeah.
	Ten.
	Okay.
	But you said single.
	Sorry, you said single kind of.
	I just, I'm not dating right now.
	I'm focused on my.
	Wait, how did you say it?
	You said you think you're single?
	Why are you?
	You think you're single?
	I'm very single, sorry.
	I was just like, I don't know how to answer this, but I'm single.
	There's no guys in the picture.
	I know, I'm single.
	She was asking.
	No, like a friends with benefits.
	Wait, what's the tattoo on your neck?
	It's a lotus flower.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah.
	You better have a friends with benefits, girl.
	You're hot.
	I'm sorry.
	Do you want to look at it?
	Yes.
	Oh, boy.
	You're new friends with benefits.
	So I'm still friends with my ex, but I'm not, we're not going to get back together.
	But what about like this kind of activity?
	Did you say that?
	Say that any of that?
	I shouldn't have said that.
	No.
	It's just chill.
	I didn't feel that fire.
	Okay, let's use your expression.
	But she didn't answer this question, so we still don't know.
	But what if we can be best friends?
	Why would you keep an ex and your mother and I love each other?
	It was this good.
	There's no such a thing.
	Literally, you can't be friends.
	He needs emotional support.
	The only reason is because something was magical about emotional support.
	Why adults are supporting?
	There's billions of fish in the sea, right?
	You just kidding.
	There's some sort of like trauma bond there or ridiculous.
	You know, a lot of kids.
	Okay.
	I'll get back to her answers once she's back to the table.
	That's a fully trained service animal, by the way.
	Trained and she has a certificate.
	Wait, guys, yo, hold on.
	For the fourth fucking time, if somebody else is talking, you need to shut the fuck up, okay?
	For the fourth time, if somebody else is talking, you be quiet.
	If I start talking, just defer to me and be quiet, okay?
	You two are sidebarring right now.
	Tell us what you're talking about.
	Go ahead.
	Us?
	Yeah, what are you sidebaring?
	She was saying that she was getting hot.
	How is that at all pertinent to the conversation whatsoever?
	It's not.
	You guys cannot be sidebarring during the show.
	Is that understood?
	Yes.
	You were an hour and 15 minutes late.
	Why are you sidebarring about the heat of the studio?
	We can't change anything.
	We don't have fucking AC.
	You got to either accept it or you can leave.
	Understood?
	I can't change the.
	I cannot change the temperature.
	Do you understand?
	Yes.
	So there's no need to have a conversation about it.
	Is that clear?
	Yes.
	God damn, that's like the fourth time I've been telling you guys, though.
	Sorry, guys, this fucking podcast is off the rails.
	The fucking dog's back there fucking barking.
	These two are having a sidebar while I'm trying to fucking talk.
	God damn.
	I think she's infecting you with the same energy.
	Seriously.
	So tell me again from what your dog was.
	Oh my God.
	This is a trained, by the way.
	Trained service dog, by the way.
	It's obviously not fucking.
	Yeah, Desmond's supposed to take care of your fucking untrained fucking service dog.
	Okay.
	He's doing really well.
	Oh, he needs air.
	Yeah, throw it off without him.
	Why don't we just let him have a bunch of fucking dogs?
	Let's just let him have a break.
	Let's let him have a break and we'll just move on.
	I'm kidding.
	I like dogs.
	There was a question.
	What was your back to your question?
	What question?
	You were saying, wasn't there a question that we were going to be about to respond to?
	Relationship status.
	Oh, yeah, relationship status.
	So she got to.
	Oh, by the way, just to be clear, I know I got a little heated there, but like, if you tell somebody once, twice, three times, for the fourth time, if you keep like digging at them in their fucking side, you keep poking at them, you're going to get a reaction out of somebody.
	I've told you guys three times to stop with the sidebars, and you're over here talking about the temperature.
	So I don't know.
	Everybody in the chat's like, oh, Brian's on his period today.
	Shut the fuck up.
	I told him three times before they can't follow instructions.
	It ain't that hard.
	Just be quiet.
	God damn.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Anyways.
	I guess I'm normal because I don't have my periods anymore.
	Oh, nice.
	So lucky.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Okay.
	Is your dog going to be okay?
	I hope so.
	He had chicken.
	He doesn't.
	Oh, he certified?
	Huh?
	Wait, wait, he got chicken.
	What is your deal?
	Why are you coming, dude?
	Don't worry.
	No.
	She was making a difference.
	We like you.
	Brown girls got easy.
	You know?
	Brunette?
	Brunette.
	Wait, what?
	She's talking about hair color.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Stick together because you guys have similar coloring.
	So I was just saying.
	Clan up.
	Falcon.
	Get each other's back.
	I need a fucking emotional.
	Sinority.
	No, in real life.
	Do you want to hold Slim?
	No, I'm good.
	No, okay.
	Oh, but you like dogs.
	I'll fucking touch off the balcony kitchen.
	I'm kidding.
	I love dogs.
	I'm calling Petron.
	He wants to jump out, too.
	I'm off the fucking quarterback throw that.
	There you go.
	He's heavy.
	I doubt you can do that, but uh-oh.
	By the way, where's the bad?
	I got a good throwing arm.
	Dude, Andrew.
	What?
	Where's Andrew?
	Andrew?
	Andrew's.
	Who's Andrew?
	He's not coming today.
	I mean, he's been on all these shows recently.
	He's taking a little break.
	He'll be back next week, though.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Derailed.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Relationship status, Desiree.
	Okay, this is crazy, but I am super, super kinky.
	Like, I'm a kinkster to my core.
	It's not costing me.
	I accidentally, I'm, so I'm a baby girl.
	I'm a slave, basically, to daddy, a daddy dom.
	I imprinted on Brian.
	I'm like Brian's baby girl now.
	Accidentally.
	Wait, can you mute?
	And the period thing is so fucking funny because I literally started my period before right before I came.
	And I was like, you know what?
	I'm not going to use it.
	I'm not going to use my period as an excuse.
	Like, I'm going to man up.
	I took a bunch of Advil.
	I was like, just shut up about it.
	Don't even bring it up.
	But then he brought it up.
	So now it proves that I'm in sync with him because people are saying he's on his period because he's the grumpy one, Brian.
	Yeah, so basically I'm like stalker level of stock.
	I'm in love with him.
	Accidentally.
	I did not say that you get excited.
	That is not fucking kinky.
	It's just an imprint thing.
	It's like, it's a technology.
	Like the penguins imprint on each other when a chicken, a little baby chick is born and looks and sees whatever is around.
	Do you hear what you're saying?
	Yeah, you do that.
	Do you want to speak?
	Desiree, I have a question for you.
	Do you ever do meetings in the mirror when you get up every day?
	Do you talk to yourself in the mirror every day?
	Yeah, I spend like an hour a day doing that.
	I think there's like a thing.
	Like I'm noticing this thing where you like, you talk a lot and I feel like it is a nervous tick, like what she was saying.
	Like it's almost verbal diarrhea.
	Please stop inter please don't interrupt me.
	So like what I'm trying to tell you is like I really like your personality because you're really bubbly, but it's almost so cringe and I get secondhand embarrassment for you because I feel like you just say the first thing you're fucking thinking and it's literally insane.
	Like you should have I understand that my brother is autistic.
	He really is autistic.
	So it's called overshoot.
	So I totally understand what you're saying.
	But what I'm trying to tell you is you need to take accountability for the fact that sometimes you just say whatever the fuck you're thinking and it's like that's why people love me or they hate me.
	You lack self-awareness.
	But you know, but she knows.
	I have self-awareness though.
	I understand.
	You don't though.
	But you just talk out of your ass and it's like shut up.
	But you fuck up sometimes.
	Just stop fucking talking.
	Like, and I hate to be like that because I really am.
	I try to be, I'm a really nice person, but like, I really feel bad for you.
	Like, I'm so serious.
	Like, you're really sabotaging yourself for no reason.
	And your kids have to say this.
	And we're not bringing the kids into it for some reason.
	Yeah, but like, my mom is like, she's very outspoken and she used to embarrass the fuck out of me.
	She's probably watching.
	And like, she tries now.
	She apologizes for all of the.
	She used to be like you.
	And she doesn't do that anymore.
	And I'm so fucking glad.
	But I'm just telling you for the sake of like just you, not even your kids.
	Just think about shit before you say it because it's like you're 38 and you're supposed to be at like this level of evolution to where you have more respect for yourself.
	If you're going to be on OnlyFans, fuck it.
	Be on OnlyFans, but don't do this.
	Like this is embarrassing.
	You're going to look at this shit five years from now and you're going to be like, oh my God, like that was embarrassing.
	Like take a meeting in the mirror.
	If you take an hour now, take three.
	You need to take three hours in the mirror every fucking day and tell yourself what you want to hear and manifest what you fucking want because this little shit you're doing right here, this shit is crazy, bro.
	Like I'm, I smoke like every day and like that shit helps me.
	Maybe you should smoke every day.
	Just destroy the guy.
	Yeah, like yeah, like shout out to Marilyn.
	I was a really chill person.
	You guys, I don't even donor myself.
	I'm a fellow stoner.
	Yeah, right.
	It's not working.
	Like, it's not working.
	Go off, Queen.
	You feel better now?
	It was really.
	We had a cute little conversation earlier and it was just like eating up in my head.
	Like, yo, like, this girl is really embarrassing the fuck out of yourself.
	You're hot.
	Like, you're a blonde, like, hot girl.
	Like, you could do whatever the fuck you want.
	You don't have to do this to yourself, like, at all, bro.
	Like, seriously, like, I don't have sisters, so I would feel like if I had a sister, I would want her to call me while she's watching with like, shut the fuck up.
	Like, you know, like, I have you.
	I have you.
	We're sisters now.
	Like, I'll try.
	I love that.
	Yeah.
	No, I appreciate you, girl.
	I appreciate you.
	I'm out.
	I'm out.
	You know what?
	It might be a defense mechanism of I don't like all the attention.
	So I just make myself into this freak.
	So it's like, okay, only a couple people will be into this, not only a lot of them.
	The excuses are.
	Let's be honest.
	I love it.
	Grace, you had something.
	Grace, you got something.
	Oh, it's just like you say that you're aware of it.
	We're all like they're telling you that it's annoying them or whatever it is, but you continue doing it.
	It's like it's your, it's, it's only not part of my personality.
	But it's my personality.
	Again, you're interrupting, and I'm, and I'm trying to be nice and not be like, shut up, but just like, it's, we're telling you there's a, or they're telling you there's a problem.
	You're recognizing the problem and you're continuing to do it anyways.
	That's what honestly is kind of bringing back to your, it's what a lot of America does also.
	They're like, oh, I have this problem.
	I think it kind of ties in with your mental illness state.
	Exactly.
	I'm not saying you're not just like in general, but I'm just like, people say they have this stuff, recognize it, continue to go with it.
	Don't fix themselves.
	Don't get themselves better every day.
	It's their excuse, like what you were saying.
	There's a lot of excuses.
	There's a lot of excuses.
	If you see a problem and you're recognizing it, fix it.
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy, donated $200.
	Desiree K had to help you last time.
	Now, Queen Michelle Branch had to say the same today.
	Brian, I stand by my request that the service dog is no longer allowed to stay.
	Booted.
	Oh my god.
	I mean, I think it's, I mean, there's a tier for like $9,999 in Bitcoin.
	We'll kick someone off the panel.
	I guess technically we could kick a dog off the panel, but it's like the kickoff price is 10K.
	Where did the Bitcoin come from?
	10K Bitcoin.
	I don't know that world.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess I'll accept ETH too, but okay, so back to the Desiree intervention, I guess.
	I don't know what's going on, but okay, relationship status.
	So, Desiree.
	I'm your love slave, Brian.
	Or whatever.
	Your flatter?
	I'm your slave.
	No?
	I'm as big a fan.
	Maybe his only fan.
	By the way, this is a fancy.
	Maybe older five.
	He's older than you.
	Stage five clinger.
	Stage five clinger.
	Stalker.
	Yeah.
	Crazy.
	Clean after your kids.
	I'd send him unsolicited nudes once in a while.
	Oh, and I'm already.
	Oh, my God.
	Ovulating music cannot be held responsible for you.
	You seem broader.
	By the way, I said stop.
	But he didn't block me.
	He didn't block me.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you in a relationship?
	I told him.
	I think I'll know about this.
	And I said if he had a girlfriend, he'd be honest.
	Emotional dependency.
	Why are we hating on Brian right now?
	I'm not hating on Holly.
	I'm living on Brian.
	I love this.
	Wait, Mr. Beardy Beard?
	BLM.
	Beard Lives Matter, Brian.
	Are you an older man?
	It's time for you to own your sexiness.
	BLM.
	I think it's Beard Lives Matter.
	You don't want to be invited again, huh?
	I'm an OnlyFans girl.
	I'm very comfortable with my sexuality.
	It's not.
	We're trying to fix you here.
	That's why you're back.
	You need help in your life.
	Well, I do appreciate the feedback about the interrupting.
	I totally agree.
	About what I'm saying.
	It's something I really need to know.
	About what?
	Desiree.
	Your feedback.
	All the feedback.
	So, Desiree, yeah, you and me are not dating.
	Oh, my God.
	We will never date.
	Don't lie.
	Even if you offered me, I never said we were dating.
	Even if you offered to stay in the middle of the day, I'm your free star.
	I wouldn't do it.
	I wouldn't even do it under those circumstances.
	Oh my God.
	I'm just your stars.
	You know what?
	Honestly, I would be your personal assistant for free.
	I would be your apprentice.
	Desiree, can I just say one thing to you?
	Honestly, God, I feel something here because I honestly feel really bad for you because I think you've been sexually abused so badly.
	I have.
	I have.
	You're correct.
	You're by my father, which is the worst time.
	Your ass abused.
	I can see that.
	Let's just not even go there.
	Because if you weren't, I'm not going to say that word, but if you weren't, because you always wait.
	I am.
	Don't say anything.
	I can see you so clearly.
	You share to me.
	I think you've been so much through hell in your childhood and the way you had to kind of understand who you are as a woman, right?
	And I think this is your way to come up to the world.
	This is what you offer all the time, and you get accepted.
	I'm doing my best.
	Wait a second.
	I'm trying to help you, but you're talking.
	Listen, I'm saying this to you because I really feel bad.
	I swear to God, I'm not just saying that to you.
	I really like to keep going on and on.
	Sorry, you were interrupting her.
	Okay, that was Grace who pressed that, by the way.
	No, no, it's your fault.
	Don't take it.
	No, she pressed the button.
	So, can I finish my point?
	No, you didn't see that.
	She was like, hold on, let me press the.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	So I really think, okay, we're laughing at the show.
	Everybody, you know, you're saying remarks and, you know, parrot, like, boom, boom, boom, say more things.
	But between you and me, a woman to woman, imagine there's nobody here.
	I really think you need to disconnect from the world, from social media, from everybody.
	I did for about 10 years.
	Wait a second.
	You always have an answer.
	The answer is not going to help you.
	I'm trying to help you.
	Well, the answer is the answer.
	Wait a second.
	You've been through hell in your life.
	I could see the pain in your eyes.
	I could see so much pain in your face right now that you always have to explain and always have to, you know, excuse and say react.
	You have always been in a mode of reaction.
	Always in a mode of reaction.
	Okay?
	And this is hyper-flight response.
	You cut in my thought.
	Let me finish.
	So let me just finish my point and I'm done.
	I think you really need to disconnect from everything, right?
	From people, from cannabis, from friends, from show you going, podcasts.
	You need to disconnect from the world.
	The only thing you need to do is start to peel all the layers like an onion and figure out who you are before all these things that happen to you.
	Because this is the only time that you can really repair yourself from the inside.
	Because if you continue in this rampage, you're going to either do something to yourself, somebody going to do something to you, or you're going to damage yourself on the media that you could not live with anyone.
	I wrote a book on my journey.
	You need a huh-huh.
	I received a little spot, but he said the feedback's coming.
	It's not funny.
	It's really, really sad.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	It's not even funny.
	All right.
	It's super sad.
	It's not funny.
	It's so sad.
	On the press now.
	On your dog.
	You pop the glasses off.
	Okay.
	So, Desiree, relationship status.
	Oh, we got a bit of a step.
	I'm your slave, Brian.
	That's it.
	You can't be in a relationship with somebody if they don't want to be in a relationship with you.
	Like that's what you're doing.
	Well, you can.
	They're not going to be reciprocal, but you have to.
	Yeah, there's no reciprocal.
	I have a relationship with you.
	You're my imaginary man.
	She doesn't have a relationship.
	You're my imaginary friend.
	You're not going to be a Mitch Hedberg joke.
	Mitch Hedberg joke about it.
	The dogs are curious.
	You're my dream man.
	You're my dream man.
	My untouched.
	I told you you were in a relationship.
	How did that happen?
	You know what's actually crazy?
	Is she like, didn't you, like, years ago go to somebody who drew a picture?
	It wasn't years ago.
	It was literally like, bring up that picture and tell me that this is not freaking creepy.
	It kind of looks crazy.
	It's kind of crazy.
	So I was having like one of those lonely nights.
	What was the picture?
	Tell us what the picture is.
	It was so freaking embarrassing.
	Okay, somebody drew.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me help you out.
	You know, those psychic soulmate sketch artists things are true, but they get you, okay?
	You're lonely.
	That's the new dating.
	I can get this across in five seconds.
	Somebody drew a picture of your soulmate, story told, five seconds.
	Okay, thank you.
	Man's making a lot of fun.
	So when was this picture drawn?
	Explain his crazy.
	Like, May, maybe?
	May.
	May of this year.
	Like, May, June, before you were on the first show.
	Yeah, it was like right before.
	Right before.
	Yeah, that picture looked just like me.
	Okay, I didn't even put it together until I was connecting that I was imprinting on you, and I was like, what the?
	There is no imprinting.
	There's no impact on it.
	I'm telling you, you've never been a baby girl and you don't know how it goes, but it's a literal like imprinting on a daddy.
	Push him forward, baby girl.
	I'm rejecting the imprint.
	It's a kinkster thing.
	Some of us are kinky.
	We're not all vanilla.
	No, that's what it is.
	I think at this point, you could not.
	It's all conscious, and I understand.
	Hopefully, we can call it a trauma bond then.
	Fine, a trauma bond.
	We'll call it a trauma bond.
	So anyway, I'm not a trauma bond.
	Desiree.
	So first off, there was zero chance of it ever.
	I'm not trying to be mean, but like, bro, you're just too persistent, so I gotta like shut that shit down.
	There's zero chance.
	Okay.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Not even a bad thing.
	And then there was like a negative.
	It went into the negative when you sent me a story about the last guy you were with.
	What did he do?
	Oh, that was not a relationship I was in.
	That was a consensual kink dynamic with a daddy don't.
	Tell me what happened.
	Tell me what happened.
	Just so you can say that.
	It's feminine.
	Okay, so.
	So the thing is, with these consciously kinky dynamics, basically, it's a safe space for people to reenact like their most ridiculous fears.
	We don't need to preamble.
	We don't need to preamble.
	Definitely.
	Yes.
	Because I want to make the point of the point.
	It wasn't like dangerous.
	That wasn't the point.
	Definitely.
	Okay, so this guy's biggest fantasy was that he wanted to hold my head in the toilet and fuck me in the ass.
	And you like it.
	I should never find any woman that was down to reenact that for him.
	Did you led him toilet water?
	I bleached it first, but yeah, I did.
	I took it up there.
	That's so degrading.
	Oh, my God.
	He was gentle.
	He was honestly pretty gentle about it.
	And like, honestly, the cold, how I was like, you can tell.
	Gently, you feel it.
	You know the shit.
	No, you fucking.
	I get it, but I mean, shit is free-floating.
	It's all in the bathroom.
	I'm like, fine.
	Listen, I delivered my last baby walking by myself in my bathroom.
	I am not a normal bitch, okay?
	I'm not a germaphobe.
	I'm not squeamish about it.
	Why are you holding for such a very kinky sexuality?
	There's a difference between not being a germaphobe and sticking your head in a toilet.
	I bleached it first.
	The question is.
	Oh, you bleached it.
	That's your first.
	Bro, then you're smutching.
	I'm fine, right?
	This was there we go.
	I never had any adverse reaction, so obviously it's fine.
	Okay, well, that's kind of stuff that you can do.
	Do you know what's on your kitchen dish spun?
	You need to eat it up.
	The world is gross.
	The world is gross.
	The excuses are crazy still.
	Oh, my God.
	That's disgusting.
	I'm not going to say, listen, I'm not going to tell you it's disgusting.
	Jaivannick donated $200.
	The constant addressing of Desiree's bad behavior is actually achieving the opposite effect.
	She loves that.
	The entire podcast has become about her.
	Just ignore her.
	Okay, anyways.
	So I'll just say in a relationship for Zero.
	Imaginary.
	In an imaginary relationship with you.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship.
	May.
	Longest relationship.
	That is crazy.
	25 years.
	My last daddy.
	Your daddy.
	My last daddy dom.
	Not my actual father.
	My actual father, I.
	I became detached from him at 13.
	I actually would love to see that.
	Daddy issues.
	Okay, Vic, what about you?
	Single, but I guess technically you put friends with benefits as like a category.
	Only I guess like friends with benefits, we'll say.
	I'm a big fan of friends with benefits.
	Longest relationship.
	So many women in this country.
	Hey, whoa, be nice.
	Be nice.
	Hey, be nice to be nice to Vic.
	We're learning.
	Hey, it's okay.
	She's friends with me.
	Is it monogamous?
	No.
	Be nice to me.
	It's friends with me.
	Just be nice.
	Why would you give yourself to a man just so he can enjoy it?
	I enjoy that.
	I like it a lot.
	I really enjoy them.
	Some of us enjoy sex.
	Some women do enjoy sex.
	So, wait, it's okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Six months.
	Six months.
	And was that boyfriend, girlfriend?
	Boyfriend, yes.
	Okay.
	Who ended that relationship?
	I guess technically you did.
	It was long distance.
	When did that end?
	Like two years ago.
	And you've been, well, you said you're in a friends with benefits.
	How long have you been single?
	Like without friends with benefits or like well, I guess you said it was two years ago, the six-month one.
	Yeah.
	So you've been single for two years.
	Yes.
	Like you're not in a relationship.
	But you've had like friends with benefits or more casual things.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are you just seeing this one friends with benefits or do you have no?
	Yeah, multiple.
	How many?
	Oh my god.
	Wait, come on, come on, come on.
	Let her.
	She can judge.
	I mean, I refer to it.
	No, You are judging.
	Sorry, let's withhold judgment.
	It's not.
	Everybody has their own opinions on how they or how they want to conduct their lives.
	Come on, be nice.
	Be nice.
	Let them know.
	Everybody has their own out of life.
	Be nice.
	Just be nice.
	Hold it.
	That's why we need the no button, Brian.
	Be nice, be nice.
	Okay.
	So you said you currently have a couple friends with benefits.
	Okay.
	Orientation?
	My orientation?
	Yeah.
	Oh, straight.
	Straight.
	Okay.
	How many.
	How many.
	Let's go.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Hold on.
	How many friends with benefits?
	I mean, what's the roster?
	What's the roster looking like?
	I mean, so I have like multiple long-term friends with benefits, but I don't see them very often because they're all in different places because I'm a traveler.
	So, you know, it's not like I see them very often.
	It's a rotation.
	Yeah, it's like rotation.
	It's like, oh, if I'm in their city, maybe I'll hit them up.
	So, how many currently active are in the picture?
	I don't know.
	Probably, I would guess maybe like five or five or six.
	I don't know.
	Five or six.
	I don't really like actually think about it.
	Yeah.
	And wait, surely going back to you with this new definition of single, does it, there's no guys in the picture, just want to.
	No.
	None.
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay.
	There's like five friends with benefits.
	What's hold on?
	Desiree, you don't gotta quip every single time.
	Okay, so what's the most it's ever been at?
	But oh, like at one time?
	Yeah, because you said right now it's five.
	Has it ever been seven, ten, fifteen?
	No, like, no?
	No.
	Because I feel like you got Riz, so you probably, like, you got.
	Well, I can, yeah, obviously I can pull people.
	You can pull.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's pretty easy.
	Easy.
	Why do you multiply people?
	Explain to people.
	It's pretty simple.
	Get people to be interested in you.
	Like have sex.
	Just for sex human beings?
	Yes.
	Have people.
	Knowledge.
	Carnal knowledge sexual intercourse.
	Yeah, obviously.
	Didn't Andrew call it friend zone?
	Friend zone.
	I could pull people.
	Or OVO.
	OVO.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah.
	No, I feel like that's the thing.
	You could pull a lot of people, but then it's about quality of the people.
	Have you ever seen two guys in the same, like in the 24-hour period?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	I don't think so, no.
	I mean, yeah, I don't think so.
	They're all in different places.
	I'm like, I'm very...
	No.
	Like, even your six-month relationship was it?
	That was monogamous.
	Very monotonous, yes.
	Okay.
	And then real quick question for you.
	I'm sure we can dive a little more into detail a little bit later on, but so, when it comes to you being a your diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, that you self identify as psychopath, how does this manifest itself in your relationships?
	In relationships so like um, so like psychopaths cannot really feel like love or like a true, real connection with another person.
	So that's something that I like really really struggle with trying to have in my life, have like real, genuine connections with people, because it's something that I want to have but it's not something that I really like.
	That just like comes to me.
	So I like try, but with it within like my relationships.
	I think it's been.
	It's it's been hard to sorry I'm don't keep going okay, I have ADHD, so you know no but I think it's been.
	It's been hard to to like have, like have these relationships, have long term.
	Obviously, my like longest relationship is six months.
	I've never had like a long-term relationship because it's like really difficult to have it.
	When you like aren't feeling like you're in love with anybody, you don't know how to have that connection.
	You're really bad at like reciprocating love, things like that, and when you're like trying to figure out it, it doesn't really work out.
	So that's why honestly, that's why I really enjoy friends with benefits relationships, because it's like all the benefits of relationship, but then I call it a parallel.
	I call it a parallel relationship when you have basically severe attachment traumas.
	Sometimes the intensity of a traditional, you know, face-to-face relationship is too much.
	So you have to kind of, you have to kind of water down your relationships a little bit so you can actually stand it, and then you slowly integrate that more and more at a time and pretty soon you'll be able to actually form attachments, which is actually very healthy.
	That was beautiful, that was deep wait.
	So but uh, because you said, like manipulation, so are you manipulating your partners?
	How does it work?
	Yeah, so like in in, like a real relationship like uh, in a relationship where i'm actually, you know, committed to somebody.
	Um, I try very like very, very hard to be conscious of um, my behaviors and actions.
	So, like my, my first relationship I ever had, I was really um, unconscious of.
	This was before my diagnosis.
	And I was like a very toxic person in that relationship.
	And so I did like a ton of like self-reflection and work and stuff so that I could go into my second relationship, which was the most recent one, as like a much healthier-minded individual to conduct that relationship in a way that wasn't manipulative in nature, that wasn't me just like using him to get what I wanted.
	I was trying to make it, you know, a two-way relationship.
	There were still issues within it.
	I still have things to work on.
	Now, are you on dating apps at all?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	How do you typically meet these people?
	Online, dating apps?
	In person?
	All of the above.
	I mean, yeah, dating apps, on the streets, through friends.
	Do you disclose pretty early on to partners that you are a psychopath?
	No.
	No.
	You don't?
	No.
	I don't like talk.
	I don't talk about it unless it has to do with my social media.
	So like when I made my social media account, nobody in my real life, actually, except for my best friend, actually knew about my diagnosis.
	And like a lot of people found out through finding my social media after it went viral and stuff.
	But I literally don't talk about it in real life with people in my real life.
	Wait, so you would not like disclose?
	I would disclose eventually because I think that's if you're trying to have like an authentic relationship, you have to be honest about things.
	Let him go.
	I think I've seen you on TikTok.
	Have you?
	I think so.
	I think I recognized you.
	Yeah.
	Sitting in a car talking about it.
	I do sit in my car a lot and talk about it.
	I just thought that's I always do my thinking in the car too when I was thinking.
	Very good.
	Wait, so you won't disclose?
	Like you won't.
	No, I would disclose with people, especially like if I'm having admitted relationships.
	I have to interrupt once again.
	Please no sidebar conversations.
	She didn't say no.
	Oh no, okay.
	She didn't say no.
	Oh, it looks like there was, okay.
	No, sorry.
	No matter what.
	I don't think you're bothering us, so she goes like that.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	No, I would disclose it in a long-term relationship, but you know, I've only had one relationship in which I could have disclosed it.
	I never ended up doing that in that relationship.
	Wait, in your six-month relationship, you never told them?
	No.
	So, I mean, I want to open up to the panel.
	Honestly, I don't know if I even have a position on this just because this is kind of a rare circumstance.
	But to the panel, do you think that there is a duty to disclose to a potential partner if you have something that could impact the relationship?
	In this case, like a mental answer.
	I think you should.
	I feel safe to share that.
	Yeah.
	I think it's kind of like a thing you should definitely tell them when you date them.
	Are you going to be nice though?
	You got to be nice.
	You can't just be.
	No, she can say what she wants to say.
	No, I don't think that's a good question.
	That's the point of having my disorder is that I don't have a lot of emotions so I can have like real conversations with people.
	Okay.
	I want to say that I, again, I feel really bad.
	And I tell you why, because my son is have to date girls from your generation.
	And if all of you are having these issues and opening your body and your soul to so many guys without thinking of the outcome in the future, because if you have, for example, 20, 30, 50, whatever guys along the road, like in five years, you're going to see your body count.
	Emotionally, because you started it with emotional problem emotionally, you're not going to be young anymore.
	You're not going to have the enthusiasm you have now.
	And when in your 40s and 50s and late 30s, you're going to be even more damaged emotionally, psychologically, physically, right?
	Because you don't understand that what you're doing to yourself right now, it's literally, it's like you're taking this cup and put another thing and another thing and I think you add in more psychologic and emotional damage on yourself.
	Instead of disconnect from men, take care of your inside, of your head, instead of sitting and talking about your mental illness, then along the road, if you want to meet a nice guy and his mother, let's say, see that or somebody saw it, they're gonna say, oh, don't deal with her, don't mess with her, she's cuckoo.
	So you understand?
	For talking to me like personally, literally talking in general.
	I know you're talking general, but in this conversation about me personally, and then we'll talk general, but me personally, like literally the whole point of my disorder is I don't have that emotional attachment to it.
	It's not true.
	I want to tell you disorder.
	I don't know.
	But I don't have emotional attachment.
	It's not true.
	I think you have a lot of emotion.
	Okay.
	From what I see, I think the only thing that repairs you and corrects you with this line to yourself constantly is to get a real love, that somebody really love you and caress you.
	You never had real love in your life.
	Somebody that's been there.
	One second.
	No.
	Somebody that really love you and protect you.
	Okay?
	And tell you it's okay.
	One second.
	It's not the same.
	If you had a man in your life that protect you and wanted you only for himself, not to share you with the world, not to let you go and sleep around.
	Do you think a woman's only purpose is for men?
	For one man?
	Do you think a woman's only purpose in life is to be for a man?
	One man.
	Yes.
	That's a woman's only purpose in life?
	No, I don't think it's the only purpose in life.
	It's not figured too many men.
	But no, you don't understand what I'm saying.
	You can have a career, you can have kids, you can have whatever you want, okay?
	But protect yourself.
	Women are very vulnerable.
	You know what's the reason that a lot of men...
	Wait, let me finish this sentence.
	You know why a lot of men laugh at women and treat us like we're idiots?
	Because they're dicks.
	Okay, no, they're not dicks.
	Majority of men have to deal with women like this.
	I'm sorry with disrespect, but if majority of men today have to choose to have the mother of their children, to build a life with you, to build a career with you, that you both can build something together for the future, you know?
	To have a life with you, and you need to deal with somebody that has so many mental issues and so many body count.
	Why would they do it?
	They'd rather be alone.
	Because don't give a shit what men think.
	Well, some of us don't give a shit.
	Of course you give a shit.
	This is your defense mechanism to say, oh, I don't care about men.
	Fuck man.
	Men are some of them.
	I only care about it.
	Again, listen, don't tell me this bullshit.
	I can't hear it.
	Just a second.
	I can't hear this bullshit and I'll tell you why.
	Because you put it, you are mother to children.
	You're sitting here in the podcast.
	Say, oh, I'm a baby girl.
	I'm a slave.
	I don't want to hear this shit because literally you're disrespecting your kids that your kids need to see you in this podcast talking about yourself like that.
	You are mother before you are for yourself.
	You are mother before you something in this world.
	Before your career, before you're the daughter of your parents, you are mother before anything.
	Wait, when you decided to have children.
	When you decided to have children.
	Listen to me for a second.
	When you decided to be a mother, anything decided to be a motherfucker.
	It doesn't matter.
	You open your legs and you pop the baby.
	No, I was trafficking.
	No, I was human.
	It doesn't matter, but you have a baby.
	You got raped and have a baby, okay?
	It doesn't matter.
	You have a baby?
	It doesn't matter because as soon as you have the baby, you're not living for yourself.
	You're living for the baby, not for yourself.
	Your baby and your kid is the most important thing.
	You're supposed to protect them, love them, and protect them.
	It's not put yourself out there and talk about their mother like that because you're humiliating them.
	I'm embarrassed as a woman to sit in a table with a woman like you.
	Can I say something about?
	Can I say something about your biases or your mental state?
	You're so angry at American women for having like this idea, these ideas, being so fixated on these ideas of, you know, being sexually liberated or whatever.
	Liberated because it's not normal.
	Hold on, no, no, no, hold on, hold on.
	She has responsibility.
	Wait for the point.
	She's not sexual.
	Wait for the point.
	No, so you're talking about.
	Hold on.
	You have all these biases.
	You have all these biases and you're really fixated on them, right?
	Is that not exactly, is that not exactly what you're mad at women like her or like her?
	I'm not mad at her.
	You're saying hate her.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Because you're saying all American, you're like, all American women.
	Majority of things.
	Grace is sitting right there.
	I forget what your name is.
	She is sitting right there.
	I didn't talk to you.
	All these good exceptions.
	All these women agree with you.
	You think they're the exception because your bias is that, oh, all these people think they're not.
	You're not biased.
	You have confirmation by the way.
	No, no, no.
	She has confirmation.
	First of all, first of all, it's all confirmation.
	First of all, I'm not biased.
	I have a better perspective than all of you together.
	You know why?
	Wait, let me speak.
	Wait, let me speak.
	You know why I'm not biased?
	Let me give you an example.
	Give me some posts.
	I've been over 60 countries.
	I lived in many countries and I speak five languages.
	Okay?
	I've been around the world.
	I know what is normal women and I know what is twisted women.
	Twisted women is the one that take medication, sit and talk about their illnesses, have a big body count with every man that can occupy.
	She put herself out there to be a slave and let men and people degrade her and treat her like a doormat.
	She's been a doormat.
	She's been literally a slave and somebody that men can degrade.
	Sorry, and put their sperm on her, right?
	And she's proud of it.
	She sits there and says, Oh, I'm a baby girl.
	You should not be proud of it.
	You should be embarrassed and hide yourself.
	I would be embarrassed to go out to the street if I would talk like that in the camera.
	I'm not embarrassed me.
	It doesn't matter.
	Oh my gosh.
	IDF chick is exercising what's called righteous judgment.
	She's right.
	Ontologically, a woman's primary purpose is to be a wife/slash mother as a man's is husband/slash father.
	Keep wrecking hoemers.
	I like that perspective because it's not like a biased sexist perspective.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's exactly what I was trying to say when we talked about a woman's purpose.
	Absolutely.
	You were only here on earth to get married, be with a man, raise his children, and take care of his household.
	That is your purpose.
	That's why you're created.
	Nothing else.
	Not careers, not all this other mumbo-jumbo.
	It's cute to raise kids.
	Who the fuck raised you?
	All people.
	Listen back.
	Listen, I'm more stable than you.
	Do you believe mommy?
	Because you're a woman.
	You're more stable than I'm.
	I hate y'all, but I don't claim this mental illness.
	Do you believe you should have the right to live your life that way?
	No.
	Because you live in my life.
	Do you believe that you have the right to live your life that way, to live your life for a man and to view the world that way?
	Is that what you believe?
	I'm trying to see how your word is.
	Do you think that I have the right?
	Like, do you believe that that's your right to have this belief about the world?
	I just believe that's why we were created.
	Yeah, everybody.
	So are you going to be able to do that?
	Other people don't believe that.
	I said I was in a village.
	It's not about you.
	You believe you're a portal of the universe.
	Woman is a portal of the universe.
	You're supposed to bring babies into that future without you.
	That's your opinion.
	Wait, that's not.
	I understand where she's coming from because in other countries, America is the only country that has all this crybabies, mental illness, this weird feminism stuff.
	Well, I'm just saying, like, this, you go to other countries.
	Women are not happy bitches.
	They do not talk like this.
	It would be very frowned upon.
	It would actually be, what is it called?
	Like a disgrace.
	Like, I have a question.
	You'd be exiled.
	Does the Bible say a woman's purpose is to give birth?
	Yeah, be fruitful moments.
	Except for the outcome.
	And the woman, listen, yo.
	Unless you're very biblically literate, that's not what it says at all.
	You ask about the Bible, right?
	I come from the Bible held accountable to the same wife rules.
	That's not true.
	That's true.
	That is true.
	It's just literally true.
	It doesn't mean that it's a fucking Bible scholar.
	I have a master's degree in counseling.
	Honey, I'm from Israel.
	You missed the market.
	If you are a widow, how the fuck could you be a wife anymore?
	Your husband's dead.
	Let me speak.
	It doesn't mean he's dead.
	It doesn't mean you get to go and then sleep with as many men as you want and post naked pictures.
	That is still sexual sin.
	So I'm not allowed to be a sexually mature woman.
	You're not allowed to go by the Bible.
	Exactly.
	How do you know the Bible doesn't matter?
	Are you doing the Bible?
	Stay away if you can't take care of my children.
	No, I'm not.
	Fuck your opinion.
	Get a real job.
	It's not that hard.
	It's a fucking real job.
	No house prostitution.
	It fucking constitution.
	Literally.
	It's a giving shit about it.
	Again, are you feeding my fucking kid?
	Are you feeding my fucking ass?
	Are you doing shit for my kids?
	Calm down.
	Listen, you'll scream at the moment.
	I would be terrified to have a mom as you.
	I had a stepmom.
	My kids are.
	No, no, no, no.
	I had a stepmom.
	I saw dragon mommy.
	She manifested a demon.
	You dragged mommy.
	Do you talk to your kids like that?
	Do you rape?
	Rape bait you guys to feed my kids.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I've never done it.
	Do you talk to your children like that?
	Do you raise your voice to your kids like that?
	I don't think you understand the psychology.
	Dude, I'm trying to do it.
	I don't think you understand the psychological trauma that you're giving them by screaming at them constantly.
	If you yell at them, scream at them constantly.
	I told you only if they get physically abusive with me.
	Maybe you can't.
	Why'd you scream at me?
	Wait.
	What do you mean physically abusive with you?
	You should never let your kids even touch you remotely like that.
	You should train yourself.
	Of course, so when they do it, I react.
	Really?
	I am never wrong.
	It's called Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child.
	It's the thing, honey.
	Wait till you have kids.
	Oh, my God.
	I didn't have a dad in the house for a while, too.
	So your mom probably had to get nuts on your ass.
	No, she didn't.
	My mom is actually the best person ever.
	My mom raised your body.
	She's always the best.
	And you only respect her because she puts you in your fucking place once in a while.
	Yeah, she did.
	She did have no fucking respect for the woman.
	Agreed.
	Yeah.
	She didn't.
	Time at me.
	When you have three fucking kids by yourself, you don't have to.
	Most of the shaming of women body counts are from other women.
	It's social.
	Exactly.
	Guys, don't give a shit.
	Taking out the competition.
	You can't shame a man in the same way because they don't care.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Cheers.
	Yo, thank you, Peggy.
	Appreciate it.
	Exactly.
	And they don't give a shit.
	No shame at all.
	Let me say something.
	Let me say something.
	Why is it so valuable to other women to put these pedestals and these rules on what other women are supposed to be doing with their fucking vaginas?
	Exactly.
	Why do we care so much?
	Can I talk?
	Can I talk?
	Why do we care so much about what somebody else is doing with their Instagram, with their OnlyFans?
	Why are we minding other people's business?
	Alexander.
	Let them do what they're going to do.
	If it affects their kids, that's their life.
	It doesn't affect them.
	It doesn't affect the whole society.
	Let her finish.
	If my mom, first of all, my father was murdered.
	I was not raised with a dad my whole life.
	I didn't even meet him.
	He died before I was born.
	My mom.
	I'm so sorry about it.
	No, you don't have to say sorry.
	I don't like that.
	My mom raised me a certain way.
	My grandma raised me a certain way.
	They held me accountable a certain way.
	My mom was crazy.
	She was batshit crazy.
	I don't want to say, you know, the word, but she, as she grew up, her and my uncle, they were the R word.
	And she was trying to figure it out.
	Her mental health took a crazy ass toll.
	My grandma had to step in and raise us.
	We literally were abused.
	We were kidnapped for two years by a serial killer.
	Things happen to people and they don't have the same access to information that you have.
	You might have traveled to 60 fucking countries, whoop-de-doo.
	But then, if somebody's in the fucking hood living their life, just trying to pay their bills for their children, who are you to sit here and tell them what they can and cannot do?
	No, no, no.
	You're nobody to sit here and tell people what they can and cannot do.
	Just because you're fucking 50 and you've lived before everybody else has does not give you the right to sit here.
	And yes, she does get on our fucking nerves.
	But to go off on somebody and tell them that they're giving their body away.
	If she wants to fuck 50 men before she figures out her life, she should be able to.
	No, she's not.
	Oh, you don't have any business showing her what she can and cannot do.
	Can I say something?
	She should talk.
	You've been talking all day.
	Let her talk.
	She talked to me.
	Well, what I say, it, I'm, wow, that just completely never mind.
	I don't even know what I was going to say.
	Can I say something?
	Go ahead, Grace, Grace.
	Go ahead.
	The problem is.
	Just kidding.
	Negative underscore $200 donated $200.
	I just love that.
	Seriously, I'd rather listen to Slim Barking than listening to these BTCH chess talking nonsense.
	Brian get desire under control.
	She ain't even wearing bra today.
	Oh my god, can you tell?
	I forgot my pasting.
	Can I respond to what she asked me and told me?
	Well, let's let Grace go, then you can go, and then we'll.
	The problem is, it's not anyone telling other women what to do, not saying you should do this, you should do this.
	It's just, it does affect other women.
	I don't do OnlyFans.
	I don't do that kind of stuff.
	If you do it, whatever.
	But it's also like you guys have to understand what that brings to the rest of the culture, the rest of society.
	That means men are able to get that of women whenever they want.
	So when they want an actual Christian, whatever kind of woman they want.
	I'm not about to say Christian.
	Okay, okay, fine, then I'll take back Christian.
	Religion shit.
	Yeah, get this religion.
	I know.
	20, 24, 90.
	Everybody doesn't have the same religion.
	So you cannot get born a certain way and you believe a woman on purpose.
	I said one word and I said, it's not the point.
	You guys don't get the points.
	Guys, let her finish.
	Let her finish.
	She's going to respond after she's done.
	Go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	I just want to say, I said Christianity.
	Christian.
	And you guys got so offended by that.
	That's how I call it.
	Can I talk?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just saying.
	By you doing OnlyFans or anyone doing OnlyFans, it ruins the rest of us women trying to hold on to the world.
	Hold you guys aren't squirt.
	You're not going to know how to squirt because you don't have a mommy to teach you.
	Just shut up, dude.
	Women.
	Squirties have to do.
	She teaches people how to squirt.
	Oh, my God.
	This is out of sex.
	This is random for the youth of America.
	She's.
	She's arguing all this stuff that you didn't learn in your public education.
	She's talking to you.
	A 19-year-old about this.
	This is a 19 girl.
	Are you a virgin?
	No, I'm not.
	But you don't get to talk to me about how.
	Can I stop?
	Can you stop asking me about my sexual life?
	I'm not talking to you about this.
	Why does it always have to be sex?
	I don't understand.
	What sex is like?
	Desiree, you got to say that.
	How do you think about it?
	That's what Proudie thinks about here.
	Grace, finish your point.
	Hold on.
	Desiree, let Grace finish her point.
	Go ahead, Grace.
	My only point is: if you continue doing that, you ruin what men's vision of women is.
	So then, when us think that we're not dehorns.
	I'm not donating.
	No, I'm not.
	Desiree.
	She's not, bro.
	Desiree.
	Can someone donate?
	Desiree.
	Wait, just leave the mic.
	Just leave it where it is.
	God damn, get your little dog paws off that though.
	The dog is scary.
	I'm not offended by that.
	I think it's an eggshop.
	Thank you.
	Finish, Grace.
	It's just like it ruins the rest of the outside world.
	People who don't go to OnlyFans, who don't go to porn, who don't do, who don't do this stuff.
	It is the self-defense.
	It ruins the rest.
	Let her finish.
	Go ahead.
	It ruins the rest of the world that's perceived, our society, because now everyone is being used to, oh, I don't need a good woman.
	I can just go off and find whatever I want on there.
	And then it just, like, it ruins it.
	I had so many times now because she doesn't.
	I want to respond to what she told me.
	I just feel like that's a very small version of thinking.
	That's true.
	No, no, Let her finish.
	Let her finish.
	I feel like it's a small version of thinking because you're thinking from your perspective, right?
	You're thinking like, okay, this is ruining how men treat us.
	But the oldest job in the oldest job in human society has been prostitution.
	Oh, yes.
	Literally.
	It's literally true.
	And it's nothing that a woman does always fall back to.
	Let's explore it.
	Let's actually explore this claim that prostitution is the oldest.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	So what was the job of the guy who paid the prostitute?
	No, no, no.
	Yeah.
	Maybe Fisherman's the oldest.
	Probably Fisherman's the oldest prostitution.
	I would say manning.
	Manning.
	For women.
	Doing man shit.
	For women doing manshit.
	It was prostitution.
	It was marrying a rich and having his children.
	Well, if you say that.
	There's a difference between a prostitute and marrying a rich woman.
	That is a form of prostitution.
	You don't love him.
	Can I?
	Can I talk?
	Marrying back in the day was the currency.
	In Africa, like in Zimbabwe, my friend told me his family would pay another family so that they can get married.
	You had to come to the family with cattle.
	You had to come to the family with some kind of currency before you married.
	That's so right.
	We got to bring it back.
	I will only date a woman who brings 10 sheep.
	If a woman does not bring 10 sheep.
	That's what they used to say.
	I told a fire girl.
	It's fucking over.
	Bring a tractor.
	10 sheep.
	A dozen cows.
	Go out.
	Titty's nice.
	10 motherfuckers.
	I don't want to respond to that.
	I need some chickens.
	I have a question for this side of the table.
	Yes.
	So you guys hold yourselves to a really high standard, right?
	Like modesty, moral.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hold yourself to a really high standard, right?
	You guys are very modest, moral women.
	Correct, Chris.
	So why do you care about men who don't have that hold themselves together?
	Can I add sustainability?
	Why do you care?
	Why do you care about men who fall victim to women who don't OnlyFans when they're not holding themselves to the same moral standard that you are?
	Those men don't deserve you.
	Those men don't deserve you.
	Why do you want them?
	I want to end this thing.
	So I would kind of give it just an example, and it's not as extreme, but it does trickle down.
	Look at like the Kardashians and what they've done to our generation and how people, the body dysmorphia and all that, when you add in pornography, boys, when they're young and stuff, they are finding pornography a lot younger and pornography is ruining relationships.
	You can laugh at me.
	I know, actually, I'm just telling y'all right now, y'all are going to be sick when that sky breaks open and Jesus is coming back and revelation.
	No, I'm telling you, y'all are going to be sick.
	No, for real.
	Walk out of here.
	I'm saying, adult school.
	It's just a little bit of a damn thing.
	You're like the reason I stopped in the Christian.
	I went to a Christian high school my whole life.
	And that shit was literally.
	What's the cool thing?
	What am I saying?
	You want sin on earth?
	I'm not saying I don't.
	I should have shortened.
	That's not what I said.
	See, you twist it.
	I want to respond.
	I'm going to talk to this shit.
	Because no one would let me.
	Okay.
	Okay, so it's kind of like Kylie Jenner.
	Look at what it's done to body dysmorphia.
	Someone's jealous.
	Damn.
	Let her talk.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I'm just jealous.
	Yeah, no, no.
	Just let her talk.
	Look at what it's done to young girls and how they view themselves.
	That's kind of the example that I would like relate it to.
	With the pornography and all the oversexualization and multiple partners and situationships, where back in the day, you know, our parents get married, they'd stay married.
	People don't stay married anymore.
	It is affecting our society.
	What if you don't meet your man?
	I want to say something.
	You said everyone, but I'm just saying that's how we're sexual.
	I didn't find a husband in a reasonable amount of time.
	Like, what the fuck?
	I want to respond to Spinsters.
	Riley.
	Riley.
	I want to respond to Riley, okay?
	First of all, my dad was sitting in jail for murder.
	I grew up in the worst ghetto that you can imagine.
	In the Middle East, it's the most dangerous place that you can imagine.
	So, because she said, she said, oh, you grow, you travel 50 world.
	I'm not a privileged, okay?
	I did everything on my own.
	So, that's first.
	Second thing, when you say, oh, let everybody do what they want, da-da-da-da.
	What she said, that it's affecting women.
	When I try to go on dates, okay, and I look young to my age, I cannot date guys because they think I'm an OnlyFan, I'm privileged, I'm a gold digger, I want a Chanel bag, I want this.
	When I tell them I don't have, I'm not going, bless you, to the bed until it's a serious, serious relationship.
	They say, What are you?
	A 20-year-old?
	I can't get a 20-year-old.
	I don't need you.
	You understand?
	Wait, let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	My point is, okay, the ass is women, if you don't value your body, you're a beautiful young woman, you have a great voice, you come from a difficult place and you made something out of yourself, and I'm sure you're going to be a big star, right?
	If you don't take your body and treat it like a temple, that you respect yourself and value yourself, not just because you have a chemistry, you're going to go in with someone to bed, okay?
	Because chemistry, it's not everything.
	You can have chemistry with a hundred guys.
	The most important thing is to, you know, say, this guy is not good, this guy is not good for that.
	You know, to find that guy that literally is going to protect you, provide to you, treat you like you.
	What if you can't find it?
	Wait a second.
	If you don't find that.
	I'll explain.
	I'll explain that too.
	If you're going to have this guy.
	I'm not.
	Wait, if you're going to have conversations like that in front of men, right?
	More you're going to have conversations like this in front of men that men gonna know how you speaking about your mental and mental health, men gonna stay away because men don't want to deal with drama.
	Men want to come home at the end of the day.
	They don't want to hear your nagging.
	They don't want you to be lazy.
	They don't want to hear your body.
	It's always against your claim about how a man is.
	Hold on, please.
	It doesn't go against my claim.
	A woman could be strong, could have a career, right?
	And she doesn't have to be a doormat or a slave.
	She could be strong, she could have a career, she could be amazing, respect herself, and have crazy, dirty sex in the bedroom with her men.
	Not with every other guy.
	You understand?
	Because the problem, sorry, the problem here that they think if they have a chemistry with that man, they'll give him everything.
	No, you can have all the sex you want and it could be as dirty as it gets.
	But it has to be with one man that respects you and protects you, not with every random guy.
	Like she said, I feel sorry for her.
	If she was my daughter, I would never let her do that.
	If God forbid my son dates somebody like you or like you, sorry, without being disrespectful, I would not speak with them anymore.
	I agree.
	Sorry.
	Next button.
	I totally agree.
	What if that guy?
	No, no, no.
	I totally agree that that's your standard.
	No, it's not rush.
	That's your standard for you.
	I would be embarrassed if you would have to be in my Shabbat dinner and you would speak like that.
	I would disown my son.
	Hold on.
	This is your standard for women that your son would date.
	And you're allowed to have that standard.
	It's not there.
	And there are all women.
	No, no, no.
	And there are women out there that meet that standard.
	Do you think all of them are stupid?
	Do they not be standing up?
	No, they're not stupid.
	The women that think like you're women sitting there.
	I'm not looking for a man like your son.
	I'm not looking for people.
	No, I keep for men for you.
	I'm looking for people who are like you.
	Only that high-standard man will never date you.
	That's why you're not looking for high-standard men.
	They don't want women like this.
	I'm sorry.
	You want to hear the truth?
	Why are you single then?
	I'm not single.
	I'm just not putting my relationship out there.
	I don't want people to know my relationship.
	I never put my relationship online because I don't want people to know nothing.
	Here's the thing about.
	I was married for 11 years, by the way.
	An order?
	Okay.
	Was married for 11 years?
	Yes.
	How did that end?
	How did that end?
	I don't want to pry if it was like.
	No, it's personal.
	It ends, but we are really good friends and everything.
	It was in the Middle East.
	Doesn't matter.
	But I still respect him.
	I'm friends with his wife.
	I don't.
	I still respect my ex.
	No, but I'm saying, if you ever want to have kids and you want to have a healthy relationship, I don't want kids.
	You know that now, but when you'll be 50 or 40, sitting alone in your bedroom, petting your dog and saying, ooh, baby, bitch, you're going to be so sorry.
	Or you don't want to be like her, having kids and being a mental person.
	Brian's a hypocrite.
	He has his phone out.
	He went off.
	It's not even on silent.
	Shut up.
	You don't want to compare yourself to her.
	You are compared to Island.
	My point is to be aware of that.
	Island.
	You're comparing yourself to her when she's coming online and embarrassing you.
	You know, I don't want men that are still on a certain type of man.
	Why are you so angry when men who don't meet your standards don't meet your standards?
	No, it's not about men not meeting my standard.
	Oh my God, you're meeting on men.
	No, it's not about that.
	Look at Brian for a second.
	He's sitting there.
	If he has to choose from all the women here, he's barely having a decision to choose because most women are mentally ill.
	You don't understand?
	Okay, why is Brian?
	Why is that?
	I know, I know.
	Shut it down.
	Interesting on this.
	The watologue.
	The water log can only go on for 30 seconds, bitch.
	We got guys watching this.
	You went two hours and shot me.
	You feel very proud of you.
	You feel very proud of you because you think every man that you're hot.
	They like you so much.
	No, no, no, no.
	They don't want nothing for you.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Wait, you said you are hotter than Sheena?
	Yeah.
	Yo, chat.
	If you guys are not.
	Chat.
	Desiree.
	My God.
	Desiree.
	So it's Desiree.
	Sheena.
	I'm saying Sheena?
	Desiree, how tall are you?
	4'11.
	I'm 5'6.
	Okay.
	Sheena versus Desiree.
	So just type Sheena or Desiree in the chat.
	Size.
	Wait.
	Are we doing the whole?
	Honestly, I'm not even in a competition.
	Sheena, Sheena, Sheena.
	She could be hotter than me.
	Everything.
	Yep.
	She could be hotter than me.
	I mean, I know I have a lot more value than just my body.
	Those are your men.
	Are those the types of people who are in the middle of the menu?
	This is the ones that are watching this.
	I'm dating only high-value men.
	Do you not think the people that watch this podcast are high-value men?
	Do you have it?
	I don't know them.
	I'm sure it's a high-value value.
	Look at all the men.
	And I'm sure these values are like how I think they're high-value men.
	You don't think these men are interested in it?
	Not yet.
	Not yet, Nick.
	Hold on.
	I'm opening up the chat.
	Dang.
	Wasting $200.
	I know I saw that too.
	Oh, my God.
	Same.
	What is that?
	What does that mean?
	Okay.
	Can you pull the chat?
	No, I can't.
	I'm trying to learn the vernacular of these youth.
	Can we pull up like Urban Dictionary?
	I feel like I'm going to open the Twitch window up.
	Move the chat to the Twitch window.
	Kick Desiree.
	Oh, that's amazing.
	I'm not in competition.
	You can be like, you know how we go to Twitch.
	Honestly.
	Popula sees the pagan donated $200.
	Sheena, of course, beautiful and gets the fact.
	When I get home, I just want peace.
	Okay.
	Hide the Twitch chat.
	That's not what I'm talking about.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	You almost.
	Okay.
	You got to go to Twitch.
	And then that pop-up that you had, the YouTube pop-out chat, you got to put it on the screen.
	Does that make sense?
	So you drag that over, show us the Twitch.
	Guys, twitch.tv/slash/whatever, drop us a follow-up.
	Can you make it bigger?
	Okay, guys, I'm asking one more time.
	Sheena or Desiree?
	Because Desiree said, Well, I'm hotter than you.
	Okay, so who'd you pick?
	Sheena or Desiree?
	Who's hotter?
	Who's hotter?
	Who's clean?
	I don't care.
	Too big.
	Probably a little too big.
	You're winning, girl.
	Okay, just in the chat, Sheena or Desiree.
	I had one.
	I'm seeing a lot of Sheena.
	There's a chance.
	I'm seeing a lot of Sheena's.
	I think you're spelling your, you guys are fucking her name up, but it's okay.
	But we know.
	If it's an S, just type in S.
	Yeah.
	Okay, Lance H. I'm obviously delighted.
	It's my mental illness.
	While we're here, while we're here, move the chat.
	Guys, go to Twitch.
	Go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you have one.
	Twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one, guys.
	Guys, it's been a minute since we last got a prime, but it probably got rebugged.
	Can you guys just like test out a Twitch Prime, see if it's like working, boys?
	I think it's got rebugged.
	But yeah, drop us a follow, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Okay.
	That was interesting.
	We got to get through the relationship.
	Yeah, I know.
	So.
	Friends with everybody.
	What about you?
	And by the way, are you involved in sex work?
	No.
	Because you came like to the defense of some staffers if you were.
	Like, do you have OnlyFans?
	She's very free.
	Stripping?
	I'm.
	No, none of those.
	Feetpicks.
	Ew, no.
	She's a singer.
	What do you want?
	I'm too, first of all, I'm too shy to be a sex worker.
	But I just, there's a certain type of personality you have to have to be a sex worker.
	So I just feel like a lot of sex workers come from very decorated backgrounds, and I advocate really hard for that.
	I just feel like I can't say what I want to say on here, obviously, because we'll demonetize, but I just feel like a lot of women, especially before they're like even 15, are exposed to experiences that they aren't necessarily blanketed.
	There's no real care for when it happens to them.
	And a lot of times there's a lot of victim shaming, and a lot of women do it to each other where it's like, oh, she's a whore and she's this.
	And you don't even know where she's coming from.
	She might just be coming from being our word.
	And she's trying to figure out her.
	Relationship status.
	Are you in a relationship?
	No, I'm not.
	I'm single.
	I'm just dating.
	How long have you been single for?
	For a year.
	One year?
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	My longest relationship was four years.
	Four years.
	Ever married?
	Any kids?
	No kids.
	Never married.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Single.
	Into the mic?
	Oh, single.
	Into the mic?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	Single.
	How long have you been single for?
	Seven months.
	Seven months?
	Longest relationship?
	Two years?
	Was that the one that ended seven months ago?
	Yeah.
	Why did he dump you?
	Oh.
	Why can't it be I dumped him?
	Whatever.
	But no, I, yeah, I dumped him.
	Why is that?
	Because he didn't want to do long distance.
	Were you long distance for the entire two years?
	No.
	Well, it's because I'm leaving in like the end of the month to Spain.
	So we just broke up.
	Like, whatever.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	What about you?
	Relationship status?
	Yeah, I'm seeing someone, but because I don't go to bed until it's super, super serious, so I don't know how to phrase it.
	I have like the three months rule before I know it's real.
	And I never post my, I never post my relationships online.
	I never write about it because I think it's something private.
	And also, I don't want to have a track record.
	Let's say if I dated someone and then it didn't work because it could happen, I don't want to have all my, you know, every time it's a new guy, I post it and talk about it.
	Sure.
	You know?
	So, kind of seeing somebody, were you in this, seeing this guy the last time you were on the show?
	No, I know this guy for many years and we start talking.
	And, you know, if he's got patience, maybe he'll win me.
	Okay.
	And longest relationship?
	11 years.
	You're married?
	Yes.
	Correct.
	And you have kids?
	I have a 21-year-old son.
	I took some MILF.
	All right.
	And I never bring guys to the house as well because I have a man in the house.
	So I'm not bringing absolutely no men for romantic reasons to the house.
	Yeah, I don't want him to.
	What's wrong with that?
	I think it's good.
	Who's going to take care of him better than his mama?
	You're going to save it.
	It's better that your family is surrounded by family.
	You save money together, you build businesses together.
	My son and I have a business together.
	I already have a husband.
	What do you mean?
	Your son.
	What do you mean?
	He's basically your stand-in husband.
	He's not my husband.
	My son is absolutely.
	You just described a partnership.
	No, adult partnership.
	How do you describe this?
	Partner for business.
	I teach him how to go on business.
	My son is like, you make him.
	Listen, my mind is not twisted like yours, that everything I see from a glass is of sexual activity.
	So please don't phrase that to me.
	I have a very, very healthy relationship with my son, and we're absolutely not in this road, okay?
	I don't talk to my son about it.
	He's got his private life, and I build him his own house in my backyard.
	So this is absolutely not that kind of relationship.
	Can you adopt me?
	Can you build me a house?
	No, no, no.
	I'll tuck in my OnlyFans.
	No, I don't need women that talk like that.
	I have one stalker that's driving me nuts.
	I don't need another one.
	Your experience.
	Brian might need some emotional support from you to deal with me.
	Emotional support?
	I can refer you to a good psychiatrist.
	Or Brian, because I'm his talker.
	I don't think he's got patience for this shit.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Me, I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single for?
	Been two years.
	Two years?
	Longest relationship?
	Three.
	Three years.
	Okay.
	And why did the three-year one?
	Is that the one that ended two years ago?
	Yes.
	You said you've been single for two years.
	There's no guys in the picture right now.
	I would say, I would say I thought I was single.
	There's a crazy story about this.
	I didn't believe about witchcraft and stuff like that.
	But a dude did witchcraft on me, which I ended up dating with him when I dumped him.
	I dumped him many times.
	And I can tell you, I cannot remember most of it.
	And then once I started having freaky dreams and stuff like that, he drugged you.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, it sounds like he drugged you with something to give you like a drink.
	No, no, no witchcraft is not a drug.
	So you're sure he didn't like roofy you or something?
	I don't think so.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's just extremely difficult.
	You're explaining like smashing out of his butterfly.
	No, definitely not.
	No, definitely not.
	I'm not that stupid.
	But definitely is something where I realize that, you know what?
	I need self-love.
	I don't need this shit.
	I need to get away, you know, like just from people that really, really wants to make things their own way.
	Because it's just a lot.
	You know?
	It's not necessary to have a man.
	In your pre-show notes, you said you're single but never alone.
	Yeah.
	What does that mean?
	If I need to please my desires, I'll do.
	Which is if I want to have sex, if I want to have, I'll do it.
	If I don't, I'll do it myself.
	You know?
	But like, it's important to realize, okay.
	Room 667 donated $200.
	Feminism has ruined this country.
	Women getting educated and having jobs like men and having a large cash flow has led to the rapid decline in birth rates.
	Make America Christian again.
	Yo, Rune HQ.
	Thank you so much for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Make America a Christian again?
	Okay.
	Are we in 1864?
	No, right?
	Somewhere like 50.
	I wish we were in 1900s.
	A chastity belt.
	I wish.
	Or when did America start?
	17.
	So what are women supposing I just want to say?
	I mean, there definitely has been like a decline.
	I need to have a conversation.
	I feel like they brought the illness on.
	We thought America was going to do it.
	America was so amazing.
	So I've never dated a man.
	There's just been a decline.
	It's kind of weird.
	I got to go peeking.
	I never have ever seen comments like this from men I've ever dated before.
	This is not a matter of time.
	Dating a high-level men.
	That's why I was traumatized.
	Oh, this is tame.
	Wait, you've never seen this shit.
	I literally just went on a date last night.
	Maybe you do.
	Never mind that has ever diminished women to just this speck of just existence.
	That's not what he's doing.
	He's a man respecting jobs.
	He literally said getting jobs, and feminism has ruined.
	But I don't believe that getting jobs is wrong.
	I think women should have.
	We don't talk about jobs.
	He did.
	He did.
	He literally said that.
	No, he didn't.
	He didn't say it was wrong.
	He just said this is what it's led to.
	Exactly.
	So is that not a complaint to say that women getting jobs leads to the it's not women getting jobs.
	It's making their career the priority more than kids and more than religion.
	What is wrong with that?
	Why can't women focus on that?
	Do you realize we're still going to be miserable when you'd be 40 and 50 old?
	I don't know if we deny the apartment.
	Do you guys know in America?
	It is this world is literally overpopulated.
	I don't want to be children with it.
	The planet is overpopulated.
	People are having babies that shouldn't even be having a lot of people.
	There should be a psych evaluation before you have kids because there are people on this planet with children that should not have kids.
	They have a bunch of kids in foster care.
	They aren't taking care of them.
	These kids are going crazy.
	They're turning into psychopaths.
	And you're over here talking about, oh, well, you should have a husband and you should do this.
	But if you weren't having premarital sex, then all these kids would not be being born like that.
	People are not going to be able to do that.
	Premarital sex.
	Do you not hear yourself right now?
	Do you know there's women out here that don't have a choice that were taken?
	It was taken from them.
	That's a different situation.
	No, you're kidding me, Mary's small.
	I don't want to go at all.
	They're having babies.
	They can't afford it.
	There's overpopulation.
	Well, then be married.
	Then don't have sex with that.
	The government wants you to be single.
	The government wants you to be single because when you're single, you pay more taxes.
	No, no, no.
	Everything is affording a child.
	I would say don't have sex.
	Don't have sex.
	You don't watch all.
	You don't watch all that.
	Exactly.
	I watch in entertainment, and I have never met anyone who thinks they're probably.
	I've never met a female in entertainment that thinks their life goal is to birth a child.
	Of course, that's not going to be familiar.
	No, but let me just say, it's okay to want to have a family.
	Right, that's fine.
	It's okay to be a stay-at-home mom.
	If that's what you want to do, that's what you want to do.
	But don't sit here and say that, oh, well, they're having premarital sex.
	There's women who have not had a choice whether they wanted to have sex with them.
	We're not talking about those women.
	We're not talking about those women.
	We're not talking about that.
	We're talking about the people that do it on purpose.
	That's a small scale.
	No, but that's the scale we're talking about.
	That's what we're talking about.
	I told her that she thinks very small, right?
	But let me educate you with something.
	The government and radical feminism want women to think like you.
	Oh, I could be a men.
	Not a feminist.
	Wait, let me say.
	Let me explain.
	The government doctrinating you that it's okay to be a strong woman.
	You don't need a man.
	Men are bad.
	All the men are bad.
	We don't need men.
	You're generalizing.
	I'm not generalizing.
	This is the mind that you are.
	Why do I need a man?
	I can do what I want with my body.
	It's my body.
	No, it's not your body.
	It's so bad that you guys think your sole purpose is to tend to a man and birth a child.
	And I feel like it's okay.
	Hey, a dog in your life.
	I don't want to tend to a man.
	That's fine.
	That's totally fine.
	I have to do it.
	Yeah, you could love it and you can own it.
	You could love it and own it.
	But child is way better than a dog.
	I mean, I don't think I could take care of a child right now.
	Here's the course now.
	You cannot take care of yourself.
	How can you do that?
	Here's the difference that I'm noticing between these two ideologies.
	Is that Riley was talking about, oh, how she respects your guys' choice to live your life that way.
	But you guys are so angry at women like us that choose to live our lives in a different way.
	I'm going to say me.
	Yes, you guys are so.
	Because I don't think you have a decision.
	I think you do it from an automatic pilot.
	She's doing it, but she's doing it from an automatic pilot.
	And another guy and another guy.
	You don't even know what you're doing.
	Honestly, I think that you wake up when you're 45.
	You'll say, oh my God, what have I done?
	You're working on an eyes shut paradigm that you're going on the automatic pilot with being with this guy and doing this and doing that.
	You don't know what the hell you're doing.
	So why are you so invested in other people's lives?
	Why are you so emotionally invested what other people do with their lives?
	Like, I don't feel bad for me.
	I love her.
	Of course, you don't feel bad for me.
	Because you don't know what the hell you're doing.
	If you knew what you're doing, you would never be in this position.
	I have a family.
	I have six guys that I want to do.
	You don't know what you're doing.
	You're spreading diseases.
	You're making a guy think they can have a goody call whatever they want.
	You say she's spreading disease.
	Yes, because when you have sex.
	Yes, it is a nice claim.
	Because when you have sex more than two or three guys, you have more chance to spread diseases around the block.
	You understand?
	Because I'm sure she's not putting on with all of you.
	Here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	We're suffering.
	The men that are getting with women like me are not the men that you want.
	So why are you so upset about things?
	Exactly.
	So why are you so inspired?
	Because I tell them this woman could be so dumb and still think they're smart.
	Women like me go with men that are like me.
	And women like you go with men that are like you.
	Yeah, they're a lid for everybody.
	There are men there.
	Hold on.
	And I don't want to know one of your views.
	My life's all about living the rest of people.
	How would I have six friends with benefits if the men I was with didn't also have the same life?
	What you said is super dangerous.
	You know why?
	Because if you say it's a lid for every pot, your lid is going to be super toxic and cause explosion in your children's life.
	Money is not everything.
	Money is not everything.
	You don't trade values for money.
	Money, it's not everything, honey.
	I just feel like everything.
	You need to respect everyone's decision and what they say.
	You don't need to pay the rent.
	So I don't see me paying my rent or feeding my kids.
	So I do what I gotta do.
	Just respect each other's decision to live differently, to be different.
	That's okay.
	You know what drives me crazy about you guys?
	You speak, you speak.
	You guys speak.
	You girls speak like you're intelligent with nice words.
	But honestly, God, I'm sorry if I'm disrespectful.
	Hate me.
	I don't care.
	You speak.
	You have nice words and you speak really nice and like you're intelligent.
	But deep down, girls like you are super empty.
	You have nothing to offer for men besides your vagina.
	Without your vagina, you're nothing.
	Without your vagina, you're nothing.
	You're empty.
	Your mind is empty.
	You have no goals in life.
	That is true.
	That is a good thing.
	A woman's only purpose is to birth a child.
	You have no purpose.
	Your only purpose is your body.
	Your purpose is to pull men.
	Your purpose is to be aware that your purpose is to pull men, okay?
	And give them your vagina, and you think it's correct.
	You think it's the right thing to do that?
	You can get married again if there was a sexual, like, what, adultery, or if they die.
	Otherwise, if he just like, if you cheat, you can't, you're not supposed to get married.
	But we don't live with adultery.
	Technically, even if he's fantasizing about another woman, so isn't that what the big hang-up over pornography is?
	No, it's not all the husbands are single in theory with all the porn starches.
	If I was Muslim, would you disrespect my religion so publicly on here?
	Would you?
	No.
	Or is it just because I'm Christian?
	It's not, it's not a particular religion.
	It's a moral religion.
	It is my religion.
	It's a fundamentalist perspective that doesn't.
	But you can't say that because that's what I'm attacking.
	You're not saying that.
	You clearly don't know the biology.
	Unfortunately, I come from Israel, okay?
	And the religion, Christianity started in Israel.
	And when I lived in America long enough, I realized that Christians are thinking more normal than anybody I met.
	You guys say, oh, they're radical, they're Christian.
	No, no, no.
	Jesus, this, Jesus, that.
	They think more normal than you because all these atheists who doesn't believe in God are completely cool.
	Besides, everyone who's Christian does not identify with mental illness like the people who don't identify as Christian, besides you.
	You guys just get demon-possessed.
	You don't get mentally ill.
	I'm not demon-possessed.
	You said that I was a demon earlier.
	It definitely turned out to be a little bit of a damn thing.
	You are the only idea.
	You are definitely a deep back to hell.
	What am I screaming at us at the top?
	Very lowest.
	Very much.
	No, let's talk about it in my life.
	I'm honestly.
	I don't even believe in real mental illness.
	I do believe that people have demons and spirits.
	Yeah, I do believe in that.
	So, okay.
	And I think you are demon-possessed, and I think it manifested when...
	But what about psychiatrists who diagnosed you?
	Like...
	Hey, girl, that's just good than you.
	You can let the disease define who you are.
	You can, like, psychiatrists not a demonstrator.
	That's all part of the government.
	I indoctrinate them, exactly.
	Yeah, you're indoctrinated.
	So you do believe that there is actual psychological disorder that aren't just demon possession.
	Okay.
	Okay, so Wayne, listen, demons are not these scary things with horns.
	Okay, they're principalities.
	They're invisible things.
	They make you act a certain way, think a certain way.
	So traumas.
	They're traumas.
	Well, that's maybe what maybe people have labeled it.
	Yeah, but if we're going to talk about those mental illnesses in relation to religion, why do so many, hold on first, I'm going to make two points, though, before you jump in.
	But first, why are so many, do so many Christians start their journey into Christianity because they were depressed and they need to find meaning in life?
	And second, because I've heard that a billion times from a billion people.
	No, all over the internet.
	There's people who are still in the sense of that.
	And then second, schizophrenia and psychosis and psychosis are both mental illnesses that prominently feature religious delusions.
	Yes.
	Why is that a thing if it's not, if religious people aren't mentally ill?
	Because you can believe in God and all of that and still be oppressed by demons.
	And I do believe schizophrenia is a spiritual thing.
	So is Christianity predetermined then?
	Okay.
	And then those are the ones who get demon possessed.
	Wherever I like.
	My brother is clinically schizophrenic and he went to prison.
	He's out of jail now.
	But they would not let him plead insanity.
	And he was.
	He wasn't taking his medication and he shot up a gas station.
	And unfortunately, we fought tooth and nail to get him his sentence lowered.
	It was his first offense.
	He's had so many different psychotic breaks.
	And this is the one time that my aunt was not watching him enough for him to take his pills.
	And I listen to you guys.
	Shit on people with mental illness.
	No, no, don't.
	No.
	You've been saying everything you want to say.
	And it's really fucking sad to hear people like you with no empathy and no understanding when people are out there dying, killing themselves in the middle of the street with no help because people like you in the court system telling them that mental illness is not real.
	And it fucking is real because I had to grow up with it and I had to deal with it with my family.
	And it's so distressing.
	Because you don't experience it doesn't make it okay to judge other people.
	No, you can't because you're related.
	I wish everybody had a paradigm.
	Watch the children.
	Listen, if someone were to go over.
	I'm not trying to say I'm not empathetic.
	I totally am.
	I just think there's something.
	No, no, no.
	Hey, I speak.
	Let me share.
	I can't hear you guys speak.
	I haven't heard one fucking empathy.
	Desiree.
	Desiree.
	Goddamn.
	Desiree, stop talking, please.
	Jezebel, Antichrist.
	Where's the fucking love?
	Your manifestation.
	Jesus came for the ill.
	Listen.
	Jesus didn't fucking come for the people who thought that they were triggered this girl.
	Yeah, just so did Jesus.
	I would have turned over this fucking table by now because you're fucking blasphemous.
	No, actually.
	You are blaspheming the youth of America right now.
	And I rebuke your goddamn name.
	Can you say, can you say that?
	Yeah, the way that you're acting.
	Oh, I can get crazy as hell, bitch.
	You're recruited.
	You're right.
	I can get crazy as fucking hell.
	You don't even stop.
	I'm rebuking.
	You're just having no one look.
	That is a demon manifesting.
	I really hope that it's CPS watching this.
	Wait, wait, hold on.
	That's a demon, man.
	CBS, are you watching this?
	Because Islam is correct about women.
	WTF do you think at the rocks means what?
	One woman corrected as such, and the entire panel stopped behaving.
	Why could I finish this?
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Is this usually what happens on the screen?
	No, definitely not.
	Well, yeah, law paladins.
	Thank you, man.
	Wait, Desiree, you're talking about blasphemy, but in the previous show, you said that you want, or I don't know if it was a dream, but you were like, you wanted to have carnal knowledge of Jesus.
	My biggest fantasy for a long time was me.
	Like every time I went to prayer or meditate, it was me on the other side.
	And it got sectioned as I advanced in the middle of the day.
	Yeah, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Brian, one more honor to support the show.
	Appreciate the support.
	If single, Florida welcomes you.
	Thank you.
	Similar age to Brian, not as tall, but not as autistic.
	Wait, what?
	Good night all.
	Okay, not as tall, but also.
	Thank you, Florida.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, thank you, Patriarchy.
	Appreciate it.
	I'm going to read a couple chats here.
	It's been an interesting show.
	How are you doing?
	It's been an interesting show.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Hold on, I'm sorry, I got to read some chats here.
	Captain Tim, overpopulation is a myth.
	Bro, can you guys spell check these before you send them through?
	Thank you, Captain Tim, for the super chat.
	The Western world is not even a replacement rate for live births.
	Israel, I believe, is the only one that is above replacement.
	Captain Tim, thank you for the soup chat, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, wait.
	These you can just pull up as they come.
	But thank you, Captain Tim.
	Appreciate it.
	And then there's a chat here from Wrath PSA.
	Grace, please help us use the shut the fuck up button.
	You are close enough.
	Brian, give her control.
	Okay.
	Yeah, if I'm away from the table, you can hit this one.
	Shut the fuck up.
	That one's pretty good.
	You can use that one if it's just getting fucking unhinged.
	Thank you, Wrath PSA.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Okay, this is.
	Let's finish up the relationship status, please.
	But yeah, Brian, you took like three hours.
	I'm going to say three fucking hours.
	I know.
	I just hate that I need to finish that.
	Question: I am single.
	I've been single for quite a few months, and my longest relationship was six years.
	I definitely thought you were married for some reason.
	With children.
	No, I have a daughter.
	I was not a Christian when I had her.
	All right.
	Grace, what about you?
	I'm single.
	All right.
	How long have you been single for?
	Middle of May, so three months.
	All right.
	I know I tried to warn him.
	Did you see that last comment, Brian?
	We're not, we don't read below the threshold.
	Um, oh, it was funny.
	Longest relationship, six months.
	All right, cool.
	So, we've got everybody's relationship status.
	No, let's do a reset here.
	I want to get through.
	Please, I want to get through the rest of the show notes here.
	So, uh, why don't we get into some of the show notes, starting with Shirley?
	Did I give any?
	Did you?
	Did you not?
	Let me look.
	Let's see.
	Uh, you were, let's see, you wanted to talk about being the side bitch skeleton emoji.
	I said that, yeah, when, bro, we've been you've been trying to get on the show for a year, and it finally happened.
	I haven't, I haven't, I had to find a way to Santa Barbara.
	Let's get that clear.
	Two hours.
	And first, oh, recording artist recording artists.
	I was doing PR and a recording artist told me about your podcast, and he thought he could get on, but then you said it was only females, which I didn't know.
	So then it turned into, oh, maybe I'll come on.
	But what was the question?
	Yeah, and one of the previous videos.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	You wanted to talk about being a side bitch.
	Being beat side bitch.
	Oh my god.
	I mean, my life has changed a lot now.
	So, but were you the side bitch previously?
	Um, once, yeah.
	Wait, who hasn't has anyone else?
	I had a little stint with being the side bitch for a while.
	I mean, it's not fun, but I can't believe I should have been a little bit more.
	I had fun with it.
	I had fun.
	What is the side bitch?
	You have like your side person, and then when you're born of the main person, you go to the your side hog.
	It's your mistress.
	So she was, you were the side bitch.
	But I didn't know.
	Were you the side bitch?
	Yeah, but your last relationship?
	No, no, so basically real relationship.
	And I was heartbroken.
	Basically, he's coming on you and go to his wife to love her and kiss her.
	I mean, you're like his toilet, basically.
	It's the front.
	The main bitch is always the front.
	The side bitch is the real deal.
	No point.
	All the delusional women like you can say.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Let her finish.
	That's crazy.
	That's hilarious.
	But I said it was in the notes.
	Go ahead.
	That's hilarious.
	I mean, that situation was like not knowing you're the side bitch and then finding out.
	Have you ever had a guy who was the side bitch?
	No, I don't do, I don't do monogamous.
	You're monogamous?
	Yeah.
	You said you wanted to speak on OnlyFans.
	Did I?
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Damn.
	That was like a year ago?
	I know.
	I'm like, wait, what?
	Yeah.
	A female doesn't remember what she said last fucking week.
	She can't remember.
	She said a year ago.
	Anyways, OnlyFans special.
	It's true for me.
	We're old.
	So I'm a journalist.
	A lot of people respect me in hip-hop for interviewing rappers.
	That's what I'm known for in LA.
	Kind of.
	OnlyFans approached me and reached out to me to onboard me as a media personality/slash journalist.
	So I thought I was going to go on there and like teach people how to do journalism, blah, blah, blah.
	I get on there and it's literally like the opposite of what they made it seem to be.
	So I feel like girls that accidentally stumble onto OnlyFans can quickly get sucked in to what OnlyFans is, which is like I did not want to see dick pics at all.
	Like it was just a very shocking experience.
	Word.
	Okay.
	And then aside from that, you also were on the, I guess, I don't know what the name of the show is, Jesse Lee Peterson.
	Oh my gosh.
	You're on his show.
	I had no idea what I was getting into.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	That was a good one.
	Now, you on that show, I just had, I saw one or two clips from it.
	You said that you.
	That shit went back.
	Do you not want to get married?
	I mean, no, I would love to know where my soulmate is.
	Of course.
	I thought my ex was my soulmate.
	So I'm just focused on myself right now because I'm not worried about relationships.
	But you said you right now, anyways, you're not like trying to get married because you have a lot going on.
	Yeah.
	Not really pressed about getting married.
	Do you want kids one day?
	I'm not sure.
	I mean, do you want kids?
	I'm definitely afraid of childbirth, but I feel like, is this bad?
	I want to for my parents.
	Like, I feel like.
	Yeah, that's normal.
	Yeah.
	My parents would love to see grandchildren.
	My brother just got married, so I feel like they're really happy with him, but every time they see me, they'd mention it.
	Now, on the show, you said that you've never dated an Asian man.
	What's wrong with that?
	Oh, my gosh.
	What's wrong with that?
	Nothing.
	She has the affinity for you.
	The rumors are true about Asian man.
	The rumors are true, girl.
	I mean, I just don't find Asian man attractive.
	Shirley has an affinity for dark chocolate.
	That's not true.
	I'm not racist.
	Throw it.
	I'm not racist.
	Okay, that's not a racist.
	It's a preference.
	It's a sexual preference.
	So you like that.
	Like, do you exclusively date black guys?
	No.
	Your friend said that you only like black guys.
	I don't only like black guys.
	Mostly.
	90%.
	My ex was black.
	The last three guys you've dated.
	Nah, the first one at UCSB was actually Persian, but it didn't work out.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	A table reaction.
	We met making out Jason.
	Yeah, what was that?
	Are you able to scoot into the table with that?
	Is Isla Vista the same as it was in 20...
	What do you mean?
	2029.
	There's like no black people here?
	2020?
	No, no, no.
	I'm just saying, not really.
	It's true.
	There's not.
	There's no very few people.
	I grew up in Italy.
	There's a lot of four blacks.
	You can see that.
	Oh, wow.
	So, okay, the Persian guy.
	Do you need English?
	White guy, black guy?
	Is that the history?
	The white guy was a rebound, but it wasn't a relationship.
	And then my ex was black.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What's her type?
	What's her type?
	I'm not going to say it.
	I work in hip-hop.
	I like.
	Yeah, I like.
	But you've never, never dated.
	She limits.
	She obviously likes Eminem.
	What's wrong with you?
	You've never died.
	He's white.
	How many people here have dated an Asian guy?
	Oh, shit.
	I fucked her.
	Are you gay?
	I fucked an Asian guy once, and I literally had to leave my tamp on it.
	Bro, it was fucking funny.
	Have you dated an Asian girl?
	If I was gay, I would date Asian dudes.
	I believe that.
	Someone flipped off.
	If I was gay.
	Someone cried.
	Oh, everybody's taking up the ass.
	That makes total sense.
	What the fuck?
	They have the smallest dicks.
	What the?
	They don't.
	That's not true.
	That's not true.
	That's out of pocket.
	I'll just say anything.
	That's racist.
	That's racist.
	That's out of pocket.
	You can't just be saying it.
	It is racist.
	I've only been with one.
	I've only been with one.
	I had a conversation.
	How do you go say they all have small pieces?
	I apologize.
	I backed up.
	The one had a small pen.
	Look into that camera.
	It was so small I got traumatized, to be honest with you.
	I was like, I can't get it.
	Desiree.
	You ain't got it.
	Look into that camera and apologize to all the Asian men watching.
	I'm sorry, Asian men.
	I went to school with you.
	Tell them they have normal-sized penises.
	Fucking say it, Desiree.
	Say it.
	They have normal sized brains.
	I'll say that.
	What the fuck?
	God damn, you crazy.
	I can't speak the dicks.
	I haven't seen enough Asians.
	The Asians don't subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	Subscribe and send me the dick pics.
	Prove me wrong.
	Prove me wrong, guys.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	She will know.
	So anyways.
	So anyways.
	Going back to you, Brian.
	So you've never dated an Asian guy?
	No, I'm sorry.
	You just don't find them attractive?
	I feel like when you word it, when you paint it like that, it sounds worse than I've just never found, I just never dated an Asian guy.
	It's inadvertently, is that what you're saying?
	Yeah.
	Like it's not, it's just what you're exposed to.
	You're around certain types of people.
	Keanu Reeves, Asian?
	I love him.
	Who's he half?
	He's like half, right?
	He is.
	Half white.
	I love that.
	Can I add something?
	Date Keanu Reeves?
	I don't find him attractive.
	You don't find Keanu Reeves attacking him.
	Oh, he's so attractive.
	Oh, is he?
	I think it's more who he is, though.
	Yeah, it's his intelligence.
	Because I was like going to set you up with him after the show.
	He's a neurodivergent.
	Listen, you miss him so much.
	You know why?
	Because when you say, I don't date this, I don't date that.
	I never said that.
	No, you said you're not attracted to Asian guys, right?
	So I'm thinking the world is so big.
	Why are we not allowed to have practice?
	Wait, let me finish.
	No, wait.
	I just want to say something.
	You never know when you meet someone that he could be not attractive to you.
	And then when you talk to him, it could be amazing.
	Don't close your options.
	I appreciate that.
	Okay, so you think of your brother.
	Okay.
	I didn't want to go there, but I love my brother.
	But like my brother.
	Can you just say that about your brother's a male, so you don't date males?
	Wait.
	What?
	What?
	My brother's Asian, so I don't date Asians.
	I never, I just, it's like.
	It's too close to home.
	Yeah.
	Like you have to date.
	My brother's a male.
	Well, Brian, you can kind of understand.
	Like, what if?
	Do you have a sister?
	Do you have a sister?
	No.
	Yeah, but I would date white women.
	But I would imagine it might be a little awkward.
	I would not date white women because I have nice white women.
	It might be a little creepy, right?
	It's not because you're hating me because it's a good idea.
	I'm just saying, if you're out there in the world meeting women and somebody reminds you of it.
	It's hard R again.
	You're probably going to be like, I'll pass on that one.
	There's other options.
	No woman's skin color would ever remind me of my brother.
	Like just by virtue of myself.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just saying.
	Go a little deeper.
	No, I'm okay.
	I think growing up.
	Trying to make sense from the non-growing up with traditional Asian parents was really tough for me, and I'm still healing that trauma.
	What?
	So I think.
	Hold on, hold on.
	So I think I don't really like identify.
	I don't, like, working in my industry, I never look at myself like, oh, I'm Asian.
	But growing up, I was very, I just, I hated my parents growing up.
	Would you date an Asian rapper?
	What I, I mean, like, what if they're in the entertainment?
	Like, I'm not saying all Asian men aren't attractive.
	Date a BTS guy, like K-pop guy.
	Would you get to date a K-pop guy?
	I don't know if we vibe.
	I don't know.
	I'm not saying Asian men aren't attractive.
	I just haven't come across one that I would want to.
	Who's like an Asian?
	I think Asian.
	Identity.
	Like a little rapper.
	Oh, yes.
	The mamouchi with touch.
	Oh, I don't know what he looks like.
	That one.
	Hey, you do it?
	No, sing it.
	I don't know.
	I don't like that song.
	I like the song.
	I actually like the song.
	It's just a TikTok song.
	Like, I can't get away from it.
	Wait, you said you had a tough upbringing?
	Yeah, so I feel like I was all, I used to literally cry in bed asking God why he put me in this family.
	So being Asian was actually really hard for me to raise the identity that you should be.
	The Asians you should be proud that you ain't.
	No, I know.
	I mean, now I am.
	Now I am.
	But growing up, it was really hard because I was around all the white people and they were dancing way better.
	And I was embarrassed about my parents.
	So I think me resisting Asian culture has a factor in that.
	Okay.
	But now I'm way more stable and have made peace.
	And I'm, you know.
	Did you have an emo phase?
	Yeah, definitely.
	We were just talking about that.
	What is that?
	Because you like the you got the swoop a little bit.
	You've got a little bit of the swoop.
	It's good.
	The scene swoops.
	I think it needs to come back, though.
	I'm a fan.
	Yes.
	That's what we're using on Blink Boy 82 on our way here.
	Remember the style when it was like this?
	It was like a little bit of a single day.
	So that was kind of a romaculism.
	That was mechanical romance.
	More of the updates.
	Like taking back Sunday.
	Whatever.
	Goddamn, Desiree.
	Shut up.
	Shine up.
	Please.
	God dang.
	I don't.
	Anyways, I think the women should bring back the swoop.
	I think it's a good luck.
	Yes.
	So props to you, Shirley, for being a trailblazer.
	You've been rocking the swoop for fucking.
	Wait, I don't.
	I thought men had the swoop.
	I'm confused.
	They did have the swoop, but also Justin Bieber could be a little bit of a dude.
	Can you Google emails?
	Yeah, Justin Bieber.
	Anyways, anyways.
	So, okay, tough upbringing.
	You were on Jesse Lee Peterson.
	Oh, my God.
	Big thing was.
	I was so mad.
	Are men.
	Are men.
	I think he asked you, are men equal to women?
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, my gosh.
	This motherfucker.
	Not you, Jesse.
	Jesse.
	Jesse, yes.
	No.
	His viewpoints were absolutely insane.
	Well, I think the biggest one that you got into was something about men should never hit a woman.
	Am I wrong?
	No, no, you're not wrong.
	Thank you.
	I do like you guys.
	All right.
	If the woman was attacking, a man could subdue her without having to strike her.
	No, I think you're not.
	If you strike and you're throwing blows, you don't know the damn thing.
	What do you mean you think he could strike?
	She's probably going to ask him to do it.
	Also, that's circumstantial because if a woman is coming at you with a knife, that's true.
	I'm only saying if you could just subdue her rather than hit her, I just think that's a more safe.
	But if a woman's coming at you with a viper, but you like to be a slave.
	I think you like to be a slave.
	You don't ask men to be violent with you when you like to be a slave.
	I'm just curious.
	As a slave, you don't like that a man is a little violent.
	I'm not like a pain mastoid.
	I don't ask for the physical stuff, but if a man already has those fantasies, then I will allow him to reenact it.
	Well, this is a little different.
	To beat you.
	If he's my man, like if it's somebody that I have that.
	So he can humiliate you and beat you.
	So what?
	He can humiliate you and beat you.
	If I consent to it.
	So he would have to tell me the scene he wants to do and the feel he wants, and then I can like see what my boundaries are.
	Like some things are too far, and I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that.
	But other things, I'm like, okay, yeah, like I can do it.
	It's fine.
	Okay.
	It's fine.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	But so going around the table, do you think it's okay for a man to hit a woman in self-defense?
	Starting with Shirley.
	Starting with Shirley.
	Go ahead, Shirley.
	I mean, the way she put it, if a woman's coming at you with a knife, then obviously.
	No, no, no, no knife.
	She's just trying to strike you.
	She's just giving you that good freaking box makes sense.
	I feel like this is what I went viral for, and I don't want to say it again.
	Why not?
	No, I don't think a man should hit a girl.
	Okay, Desiree, what about you?
	I just think that man should know his own strength and then be able to judge the situation.
	Like, if he really needs to strike her for literally his self-defense, then I think it's justified.
	Vic?
	Yeah, I think it's circumstantial.
	Rightly.
	Circumstantial.
	Same.
	For sure.
	I have two words to say.
	First of all, if you let a woman, man, be a pretending he's a woman and win the swimming competition.
	That actually was faith.
	So wait, wait, wait.
	Oh, wait, no, wait, because you make me forget my point.
	Sorry.
	So I think a lot of women actually want to antagonize the men, so they beat them and do something to them.
	Not all women, but a lot of women.
	She's right.
	Right?
	And if the woman do it, and if I were a man, I would punch that woman.
	Exactly.
	No, facts.
	If you're trying to fight me like a man, it's honestly.
	Not kinky, not sex.
	No, not talking about sex.
	Oh, my God.
	Everything they want to snack from people.
	It's like you have a virus all the time.
	Sex.
	Because I understand the psychology.
	You don't have to content.
	You're not a psychologist.
	Another therapist.
	But you just talk about sex.
	The psychologist has explained that our rituals, all of their psychology is.
	You're making a doubt about yourself.
	You absolutely should not give a victim.
	You can't quiet it.
	That's fine.
	Or teach anybody about anything.
	Who manifested?
	That's not true.
	Desiree.
	A question.
	Oh, my God.
	You should not give advice to people.
	Cash.
	All right.
	So We're saying, let's get responses from everybody, guys.
	Please.
	So, what was the question again?
	Is it okay?
	Is it okay for a man to, in self-defense, strike a woman?
	I was so.
	Would you play the clip?
	Let me find it.
	The Jesse leaves her.
	Find in the clip, Shirley.
	I wouldn't deadline it.
	I saw it on TikTok or something.
	It's been, it went viral every year.
	Shirley.
	Oh, this is the emotional idea.
	That's it.
	Yes!
	That was the best.
	I do not have that.
	Shirley.
	Jesse.
	You have gorgeous hair, by the way.
	I love her hair.
	I love it.
	I love your hair.
	I need like a shirt.
	I wish I had one.
	Is that your colour?
	I'm Corey.
	Without blow-drying my hair, I'm like, I can't believe this.
	Mine is a stoof.
	Oh my god, somebody just told me they were answering me when I wrote it.
	Let's get the answers, guys.
	Let's get the answers.
	I would say, like, if he, if I would put my position, in my position, you come to men and you had to, because I'm in a situation where, come on, somebody's coming at me and trying to like hit me.
	I will not directly hear or just cover myself.
	Jimmy donated $200.
	Thank you, Jimmy.
	In defense, it's fine easy.
	No one should touch another.
	Desiree, if someone hit you upside your head, you might make more sense.
	Israeli mommy, FTW.
	Exactly.
	I wouldn't get you.
	Israeli mommy is a W. What does that mean?
	Oh, for the win.
	It means they like you.
	Oh, thank you.
	They like you.
	Thank you, guys.
	There you go.
	Let me read Giovanni's chat here.
	Thank you, Jimmy F, for the TTS.
	Giovanni says, grace-based, redhead-based, even though she's probably a Protestant heretic.
	Definitely.
	She's beautiful.
	IDF chick-based black girl using SA victims to justify consensual promiscuity was absolutely foul.
	Shame on you.
	What's IDF?
	Israel Defense Force.
	What did they say about the IDF?
	He said they're saying that that's you and that they like you.
	I know how to shoot again.
	Do you have a response, Riley?
	She laughed.
	I feel like I think the person that responded didn't understand what I was trying to explain.
	So, I mean, I don't really care.
	Okay.
	He understood.
	But I think he was trying to say, like, we were talking about consensual sex.
	Well, no, they were generalizing.
	So I was saying, if you're speaking about, I said, if you're speaking about a demographic, you're speaking small because there's a whole world out there of experiences.
	So just to say that one group of people specifically, we can't just talk about everybody.
	If you're saying these small groups of women are affecting all of women is a generalization because it's not.
	So that's what my that's the context of what I was trying to explain.
	There's very isolated, there's isolated incidents where maybe the girl is, you know, the thing happened, so she's trying to figure it out.
	We got to give some people grace.
	And then there's some people who are just doing what they do, and that is toxic.
	So there's, that's all I'm saying.
	I am still trying to find the Shirley Shirley Strange.
	You don't find that shit.
	You can find that shit.
	I was mad as fuck doing that shit.
	I was mad.
	I was pissed off.
	He kept me in there for an hour.
	I feel like they clipped what you said and they clipped it at the right part to make you look crazy.
	Here, Nick, I'm going to send you a list of the things that I'm going to do.
	Put the speed on 1.5, Nick.
	Private chat, speed 1.5.
	We should get Jesse on the show.
	What do you think?
	Should we get him on the show?
	Jesse Lee Peterson?
	I thought you don't have it.
	Would you debate with him?
	Yeah, we get guys sometimes.
	I want to meet you.
	They do.
	They totally have to do.
	You want to come back?
	You can do a round two with Jesse.
	Oh, God.
	I want to come back and do a round with Jesse even though.
	I know.
	Yes.
	Nick, do you have it?
	Why not?
	We don't know what you signed up for with this man.
	This man is trifling.
	Let's see.
	All right.
	Is it at 1.5?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Skip forward a little bit.
	Oh, can you swim with me?
	Mac?
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
	Oh, he's very smart.
	Audio?
	What?
	Audio?
	I like it.
	Are you serious?
	He's super smart.
	Wait, has the audio been down this whole time?
	I don't even know who this man is.
	He is super, super smart.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Can we?
	Go ahead.
	I said that he's a woman, that he's competing in the women's sport.
	He's beating them out.
	Should men participate in women's sports?
	Oh, this, wait, hold on.
	What's a women's sport?
	Wait, this is skip forward?
	Can you skip forward?
	How is basketball a women's sport?
	Should men play with women?
	You look good there.
	You know that they pretend to be women, but transgender men.
	Should the transgender men skip forward?
	Should she be angry about it?
	You better clip on women to men.
	Uh-huh.
	No, I'm just looking out like...
	Right.
	Because men should never hit a woman.
	Okay, go back, go back, go back.
	A little blurry there, because...
	What?
	Uh...
	See, I feel like it's a little blurry there.
	Wait, can you start it?
	I'm a little more rough.
	the question is posed.
	I think you guys just started there.
	We'll see.
	Okay.
	Should she be angry about that?
	I don't know.
	If I'm competitive, I might be a little mad, but.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Should women be allowed to play men's sports?
	See, I feel like it's a little, like, a little blurry there, because men can be a little more rough.
	So I wouldn't hate for a woman to get hurt along the way.
	That's more proof that women are not equal to men.
	Uh-huh.
	No, I'm just looking out, like...
	Right.
	Because men should never hit a woman.
	Why not?
	That's just fed up.
	What?
	Why should a man hit a woman?
	To protect himself.
	Oh, man.
	This is a lot.
	I just disagree with your viewpoints.
	Why?
	You think a man should hit a woman?
	Should a woman hit him?
	Yes, I do.
	I don't think violence is the answer to anything.
	No, it's protection.
	He's self-defense.
	Let's say a woman hit, he shouldn't just go around here doing just for no reason.
	But let's say that.
	Should women hit men?
	No.
	Right.
	So if a woman should hit a man, shouldn't he smack her back?
	No.
	Why not?
	Because she's a girl.
	She doesn't know that?
	She can't get away with everything.
	So if a woman smacks a man, what should he do?
	He probably deserved it, to be honest.
	What?
	Yeah, you want to play this game?
	Let's go.
	Doesn't she deserve to be smacked back?
	No, she's a girl.
	Guys should not hit girls.
	But girls should hit guys?
	I never said that.
	No.
	But if they do, the guy shouldn't smack her back.
	No.
	Why not?
	Because guys shouldn't hit girls.
	Why?
	Because that's just unfair.
	How?
	Because girls are tender and beautiful creatures that should not be hit.
	But don't they know that before they get the man, that they can't handle it?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	So if she smacked him one time, for example, and he smacked her back, wouldn't it send a loud message?
	You can't be treated as well.
	He just stopped.
	I don't think the guy should ever hit the girl.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Not even to protect himself against her.
	No, what is he protecting?
	He's a human being, just as she is.
	Right.
	And no one should treat each other that way.
	Yeah, violence is never the answer.
	Right.
	That's what I think.
	Everybody will smack the guy?
	Uh.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't think so.
	I'm not a violent person.
	I will cuss a bitch out, though.
	I will curse a bitch out, but no, I don't smack you.
	Wow.
	Thanks for letting me relive that.
	You're welcome.
	Thank you.
	It was serious.
	This guy reached out to me on YouTube and was like, reached out to me and emailed me like, hey, come on my show.
	We've had Amber Rose on and all these big people on.
	I was like, okay, you know, my YouTube is trying to get on on YouTube.
	And yeah, that shit was wild.
	Wait, you said the man probably deserved it?
	Wait, hide this for a second.
	coming at me hard bro but like so if I wait Shirley, surely, sure.
	So, like, if a guy gets smacked, does he deserve it?
	Sometimes.
	No, by the girl.
	Like, if he gets smacked, does he deserve it?
	I'm sure the girl had a reason.
	But can you say the same thing?
	Like, if a guy were to smack a woman, did she say this?
	Like, innately stronger than women?
	That was the point I was trying to make.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	They could hurt a female way more than, you know, like.
	It could be considered assault with a deadly weapon.
	I don't think legally a woman beating a man just with her body, that's not considered assault with a deadly weapon.
	It's a different deadline.
	That's why transgender are not allowed to do things deadly.
	Even if a man were to beat a woman with his fist, you don't have a designation of because you're a man, that's assault with a deadly weapon.
	No, you need a literal deadly weapon like a knife.
	Your fist, depending on the size difference, I'm a battered woman.
	I know this stuff.
	You know this stuff.
	Look, I don't know the specifics.
	I don't know the specifics of it.
	I'm pretty sure that if you're getting beat with fists, your fists cannot be considered deadly weapons.
	No, that's bullshit.
	That's bullshit, too.
	That's true.
	No, you don't have to register your fist as deadly.
	That's bull.
	That's no different than how surgeons.
	Look at Anna.
	Chuck Norris has to register his fist.
	That's bullshit.
	That's not a thing.
	But you were going to kill someone with a fist, though.
	So could a woman.
	I'm telling you.
	No.
	I don't think so.
	Why not?
	Dude, actually, I'm not going to say that on camera, but like, you could definitely mess someone.
	You can fuck somebody up.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wait, really?
	Women can kill men just by this trust.
	I never did.
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying you definitely could.
	True.
	Tell us the truth, Grace.
	Who did you fuck up?
	No one.
	No one.
	You're like, I'm not going to say this shit on camera.
	Like I said, it's case by case.
	Like, if a man's attacking you or he's trying to do something, like, you whoop his ass.
	If a woman's running after you and attacking you, you're going to have to defend yourself.
	The whole sexuality.
	You know what I mean?
	Wait, are you an attorney?
	Regular?
	Whatever attorney.
	Desiree, that is absolutely not how the law works.
	Stop talking.
	I know there is no requirement.
	I have pressed charges.
	It's true.
	I have pressed charges for a man hitting me with his fist.
	And he got charged with a salt.
	Don't say that.
	Nobody will ever date you so dumb.
	Did he have brass knuckles?
	He was a really good fighter, like a street fighter.
	I mean, I'm pretty sure that.
	No, he legit was like a thug.
	So, guys with particular fighting.
	Did he pistol whip you?
	No.
	He literally used his fist.
	But it's your fault.
	You're going into a life decision.
	But I don't know the.
	So it's the victim's fault that she gets beaten?
	Yes, it's your fault because you bring an unsafe guy to your life.
	Stop.
	I don't care how strong the man is.
	I don't care how well trained he is.
	Again, look, maybe Giovanni can correct us here.
	If he's just striking you with his fist, not saying it's right.
	I don't understand.
	So you're saying that my court changes.
	Shut the fuck up.
	You gotta be it as hell.
	Desiree, you have to let people finish, dude.
	You can't fucking interrupt people.
	You understand?
	Take your fucking goofy ass glasses off while you're at it.
	God damn.
	Take them off, Desiree.
	Take them off.
	Okay, so check.
	If I had a headache, I could wear them.
	Yeah, but now you need more of a headache.
	We're getting rid of you.
	That's a headache.
	So, I was trying to say, I'm pretty certain, regardless of a man's training.
	I'm telling you, you're wrong.
	Are you just like information?
	Are you just arslerd?
	You gotta shut up and let people finish.
	You're spreading false information.
	No, you're speaking.
	He hasn't finished his sentence.
	Yo, you need to shut up and let people finish.
	Holy.
	Okay.
	First off, you're spreading false information.
	I'm literally not.
	Yeah, you are.
	So, in any case, I'm literally not.
	You literally are.
	That my life can happen.
	No, Desiree.
	That's what you're telling me?
	Hold on.
	You're telling me I just made this shit up.
	You didn't say that.
	You did.
	You didn't even let him finish.
	It's not a thing.
	I'm telling you, it is a thing.
	You're literally fighting with the love of your life.
	Fine.
	So you were.
	I don't.
	Sometimes I have to put him in his place.
	Sometimes you're wrong.
	No, you don't.
	Sometimes you're wrong, Brian.
	Sometimes you're literally wrong.
	So I'm not doubting that you were assaulted.
	Got charged with assault with a deadly weapon for beating me with his fist.
	What was the deadly weapon?
	What did you say?
	Okay, I gotta Google this just for the sake of it.
	Yeah, I please.
	But I feel like.
	Oh my god, goodness.
	Poor man.
	I feel like this did happen to her, so it's valid that that is the thing, that a man can be charged with her fist.
	What's your name?
	I forgot.
	Shirley.
	Can I tell you something?
	Hold on, hold on.
	So I have something here.
	Okay, here we go.
	Can you put it on the screen so we know you're not capping?
	I can tell you right now.
	Hold on.
	Well, so there's two.
	I'm getting variants.
	Exactly.
	It's a case-by-case basis.
	Let him not the norm, but it is a thing depending on the man's history.
	Right.
	So annoying.
	And she said the guy had fighting.
	He was like, I thought he had a record.
	She's disturbing the love of my life again.
	So hold on, hold on.
	Was this in California?
	Was it in California?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Just answer the fucking question.
	Just answer the fucking question.
	Was it in California?
	Okay.
	What was that last time?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me see.
	So it says, in California, the California criminal jury instructions state that hands and feet are not considered deadly weapons when charging someone with assault with a deadly weapon.
	However, to your point, the California Supreme Court has recognized that hands and feet can be weapons that cause serious bodily injury.
	But it's not clear just because they can be weapons that cause serious bodily injury that they are considered there has to be a certain intent behind the beating.
	If the intent was to cause serious harm or death, I'll just grant it.
	I'll grant it.
	There seems to be some dispute.
	I'll just go to the next one.
	I just want to say one little thing, and that's it.
	To an extent.
	Desiree, sweetheart.
	Let me tell you something.
	If I was a man and I had to date you, I would beat the shit out of you.
	Whoa, that's crazy.
	Disavow.
	Disavow.
	The whatever podcast does not endorse.
	You guys should do like a.
	She's not alone.
	How can a man be with a woman like you?
	Sorry.
	You talk about.
	Sorry.
	You talk about only about sex.
	Everything turned out to sexual.
	You say that you want to be a slave.
	You say that you want to be a, how do you call it?
	Baby daddy or whatever it is.
	A baby girl.
	A baby girl.
	No conversation that it's like politics, something normal.
	Everything is around.
	I've brought up politics.
	I've brought up society.
	I've brought you sex journey.
	I brought up my self-help.
	Everything circle in sex.
	I brought up sexual education.
	Sexuality.
	You even said the world.
	Do you understand about sex like every 10 minutes?
	It doesn't matter.
	But you know what's the difference?
	Wait, you know what's the difference between women?
	You want to know what's the difference?
	Listen to me for a second, Desiree.
	That's the average.
	You know what's the difference between men and women in sex?
	You want to know the difference between men and women in sex?
	You want to know the difference between men and women in sex?
	Women are the portal of the universe.
	They're bringing kids to the world.
	Wait a second.
	You already brought your kids.
	You passed your prime.
	So now you need.
	So are you?
	So yes, of course I passed my prime.
	So what?
	What's my support group then?
	I'm not going to lie to myself and tell myself that I'm a 25-year-old and I get all the men in the world.
	That's why I'm not in competition with you.
	I passed my prime and I'm proud of it because I lived my life.
	I had my son.
	I'm not in competition with a younger woman.
	I'm not sure if anyone is.
	No, I like sex.
	Of course I like sex.
	But not in a way that I open my portal and gate to every guest that wants to come.
	That's why I have an OnlyPans.
	They can't touch me.
	I don't know why.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	But they see you.
	It's paying my work one.
	You traded, honey.
	You traded.
	Let me.
	Listen.
	So if I listen to me, if I prove $10 a week and leave my woman and children, Desiree, you have the privilege.
	You have the privilege.
	You have the privilege to listen to a woman like me, okay?
	You have the privilege.
	I don't want your life.
	Okay, I'm not you.
	I don't want you.
	I don't know why you're not.
	I don't want you to have my life.
	You have the privilege to have wisdom because nobody in your circle is going to tell you the truth.
	I don't give a shit.
	Nobody in your circle is going to tell you the truth.
	Okay?
	Nobody in your circle is going to tell you the truth about who you are.
	Okay.
	And how you live your life.
	You work one hour a week.
	You spread your legs or whatever you do in OnlyFans.
	You think it's going to give you a future?
	It's called capitalism.
	No, it's not capitalism.
	It's prostituting in the camera.
	It doesn't matter if they touch you, smell you, whatever.
	They can see your vagina and how you give them blowjobs in the camera.
	This is something you could never take away.
	And your son, when he grow up, they're going to tell him, your mom is the hoe.
	Oh my God, your mom did OnlyFans.
	You don't understand.
	You traded.
	You traded.
	You traded value for money.
	You traded value for money.
	Money is here for you.
	And the values are here.
	And a normal person like her and her and her, their values are here and they don't care about the money.
	They care more about their values.
	And you could be a cleaning lady, go clean 10 houses a day, 10 hours a day.
	Why the fuck would I do that?
	Right?
	Clean out.
	Instead of going and prostitute yourself.
	Oh, and your vagina doesn't hurt.
	My vagina doesn't hurt.
	It's in very good shape.
	What do you think?
	Thank you.
	Really?
	I don't believe.
	I don't have a good shape.
	I don't believe myself or anything like you do, bitch.
	What do I do?
	Because I am with the fucking dick.
	Whenever someone raises their voice and starts calling you cuss words, that's just when you can just ignore them.
	No, no, but why did she say please class that you pee your parents?
	I don't pee myself.
	I have, listen, if we get into it, I'm even small and young over.
	What toys do you use?
	What toys do you use?
	What?
	What everyone is obsessed with?
	What is she doing?
	Honestly, I don't use toys because sex, it's not my main thing.
	If I have a boyfriend and I love him and I have something with him, I would do it with him.
	No, I donate toys because my life is not around sex.
	It's not the most important thing in the world.
	Desiree, didn't you say the world doesn't revolve around sex?
	Why do you keep bringing it into the topic?
	No, I literally said the world does revolve around sex.
	That's what she said.
	Exactly.
	That's literally what the world revolves around.
	That's the problem.
	That's why you're not normal.
	That's why you don't have to learn.
	Respectfully, that's stupid.
	10 minutes.
	Last one, but this is a gift to the viewers.
	Please shut up, Desi.
	She allows every man to finish on the body.
	Seriously.
	Some dude will definitely help and kill her.
	That's insane.
	But see, that's how the world views you, though.
	When you should care.
	No, I shouldn't.
	This is a nobody lost.
	Desiree.
	Hey, Desiree.
	Desiree.
	You give a shit.
	You give a shit.
	You just lost.
	That's what.
	You lost.
	Zip it.
	Your mic is muted, so you can't talk.
	You got a 10-minute mute.
	You can do that.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	It was necessary.
	It was definitely.
	I agree with Riley over there.
	Definitely necessary.
	Super necessary.
	All right.
	Where the hell were we?
	Can I finish my sentence to her?
	Because finally her mic is.
	Yeah.
	Her mic is off.
	So I want to say that.
	Well, she can't respond.
	I want to exactly.
	So I want to say that.
	20 seconds.
	You know what's the problem?
	What I said before, it's your coping mechanism.
	You only learned since you were little to deal with the world.
	All your paths, it's through sex.
	So you think sex is the most important thing.
	You didn't have one conversation, not in the other two podcasts and not today, that it's normal.
	So I can't even imagine how you do it with your family, with your kids, with a guy that you're dating, because the only trademark you have to trade with a guy, it's your vagina.
	You have nothing else and your mental illness.
	That's why no guy, no normal guy would be with you.
	Only guy, only guy that needs a slave or a guy with it with a pervert, only a pervert, only a pervert who wants something pervert would be with you.
	Normal guy would never be with you.
	She belongs to me.
	Get it into your head.
	I have like a piggyback of your point.
	So obviously, Desiree is just very obsessed with sex, but I think you're also very obsessed with sex, but in the opposite.
	No, but in the opposite way, where you think it's the most important thing that you have to withhold it and you can't give it to people.
	You think you put such a high pedestal on sex.
	I put sex valuable thing to this.
	Yes listen Brian, are you gonna listen into this?
	That's the, that's the same perspective that she has.
	Just no, you're saying when you have a lot of one thing, it becomes less valuable.
	Not understanding, and you respond, then weird answer.
	Your answer is weird and I'll tell you why.
	I'll tell you why I want to tell, I want to, I want to.
	I want to say what I want to say for this.
	You saying that I'm obsessed with it.
	No, I value myself.
	My body is like a temple.
	If I give my thing to somebody else, to someone else, it has to be somebody who respects me, who will be continued by seeing me, and not just for this.
	I'm not a booty call.
	I'm not giving my body just to give my body, because I control my urge.
	Even if I'm I really, really want sex, I can control myself.
	I'm not gonna give my body to somebody just because I can't hold myself and I need sex right now.
	That's the difference.
	I don't work and act from my impulse.
	That's having a person not need to work from their impulse.
	Yes, it is.
	No, it's not having an obsession with sex, because you think I don't have any obsession.
	Yes, you think sex is so sex important.
	It's protecting yourself and your body.
	It's important.
	Not from sex, from sex.
	You think sex is so important that this is.
	It's this big thing that you, that's the most important thing about you is preserving yourself, saving yourself.
	That's thinking real men, value men.
	That's thinking sex.
	Brian, am I wrong?
	A value, high value man, what is the right to go with a hoe that give her body to everybody or a woman that holds herself?
	That's the same thing.
	That's the thing.
	It's thinking sex is the most important thing.
	No, I'm a high woman, I'm a high value woman and I'm not just having sex with anybody just because I need to have sex.
	You're you're making sex the commodity.
	Sex is the commodity here.
	That's that's making it the most important thing.
	Your body is the commodity.
	Sex is the commodity.
	Disrespect your body, your body with sex is the commodity and that's that's the sex.
	I bet you any money after you have sex you, the guy, wait after.
	After you have sex with a guy.
	Right, wait after you have sex with a guy.
	That it's not a serious relationship, right?
	What do I mean?
	When you have this orgasm or whatever, you're gonna feel super empty lonely, sitting there in the bed alone and thinking oh, I wish I had a relationship, because you know you abused yourself to death and you can't have that.
	You justify yourself as a coping mechanism to put my point in the wrong place.
	No you yes, you're not understanding.
	My point is that you're making sex the most important commodity about a woman.
	Of course it's important.
	It's your body.
	Explain to her, please.
	Yes, you just are.
	Of course you're not obsessed with sex.
	You are no, we're not.
	Though you're not, you're not obsessed with having sex, you're obsessed with withholding.
	It's just a value that I hold.
	Then why is that the most important thing?
	I don't blow with the wind of whatever trend is going on.
	What the hell is that the most important thing?
	So, due to that, but why?
	But why is sex the most important thing?
	It's not the most important thing.
	Then what's the most important thing?
	What are you gonna do?
	What are you gonna do?
	Why is your body important?
	What are you gonna do when you're 50 years old and you already slept with thousands of men?
	Let's do the math.
	If you have, at a time, six men, if you have six men right, let's say, in a course of a month, can you do it?
	Because I can't multiply in my head six times.
	Okay yeah, that's okay, she can do it six times.
	Okay, six times six men sorry, in one month, do it in a course of 40 years.
	I want to know how many men are there?
	Oh, six.
	Well, that'd be 72 times 40 years.
	So 72, 40 zero probably.
	Carry the five probably around.
	I always say that.
	Oh, are you guys actually looking for an answer?
	Okay, hold on.
	40 times 72, if you do 40 times 40, that's more.
	2,880.
	Yeah, 2,880.
	Exactly.
	Your vagina is going to be worn out.
	You're going to be.
	Your vagina, thank you.
	Your vagina is going to be worn out, okay?
	You're not going to be young and youthful because this is your trade right now.
	Sorry to tell you, but you're not exceptionally beautiful.
	You don't have a gorgeous body.
	You have like 3,000.
	You have arms to the vagina.
	You have your vagina going to be used and abused.
	You're not exceptional.
	You're not.
	You don't have exceptional views.
	You don't have a kid.
	You're not hot.
	You don't have kids.
	You don't have to.
	I'm sorry to tell you.
	Sorry, wait.
	You're going to wake up 30.
	Not so beautiful.
	You don't have your youth anymore.
	What are you going to do?
	Great moment.
	You're going to kill yourself.
	What are you going to do?
	Okay, you're missing the whole point.
	You're going to have to have a lot sexual diseases out of 2,000 people.
	The odds are high.
	Thank you.
	You guys are missing the point.
	You said, okay, so I said, you guys said sex isn't the most important thing.
	Your body is.
	Why is your body the most important thing?
	Self-defense.
	Because God can't really want with one.
	What are you having?
	Let's go for it.
	Let's explain it to our rationale.
	The most important thing.
	I found that one.
	Because you got to know.
	You asked a question.
	Let me answer.
	Because not all your life you're going to be young with the horniness because we live by our hormones.
	When your hormones level are going to go down when you're 40 and 50 and you don't feel sexual anymore, you're not going to have a trade to trade.
	You're not going to have something to trade.
	And if you don't have a husband and kids, what are you trading?
	You're going to feel your prime is only until you're 40.
	What are you going to do after 40?
	Okay.
	Why?
	Okay.
	Why do you think?
	What are you going to do after you're 40?
	You got no kids and no husband, lonely by yourself.
	You are not getting, you're not getting the point.
	Oh, you want to be like her when you have kids and she's going to be.
	You keep trying to answer and explain.
	You're not getting it.
	Wait, hold on.
	I got to move it on.
	I got to move this on.
	All right, let me read some of these chats.
	Actually, I'm going to have Shirley read them because she's long.
	She asked me to.
	I did?
	Yep.
	Desiree, can you stop talking for five seconds?
	The world is not around you.
	Zip it.
	Quit acting like it.
	You need a straight jacket.
	By the way, Grace, you are by far the most attractive on the panel.
	Stay fit and stay best.
	Based.
	Yo, Billiam.
	Appreciate the super chat, man.
	Thank you so much.
	And then Sean, thank you, Sean.
	Brian, you're getting fatter and not trying to lose the weight.
	The dumpy is getting bigger.
	Just hit does and get it over with.
	Oh, my God.
	Does that hurt your feelings at all?
	No.
	It's true.
	I need to lose some weight.
	It's real.
	I need to lose some weight.
	Brian, I got you.
	W. Desi.
	He was eating raw chicken, so he got something going on.
	Wait, is it actually raw chicken?
	No, it's not.
	I don't know why you said that.
	It looks raw, sorry.
	I don't know why you said that.
	I'm dying.
	Okay, anyways.
	Let's go to.
	Actually, you know what?
	Let's do Stiffler.
	Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Can't pick seven, starting with Shirley.
	Rate my looks?
	Rate your own looks on a scale of one to ten.
	Go ahead.
	I'm humble, so I'm going to just say five because that's in the middle.
	Okay.
	Desiree?
	I'm going to say.
	Oh, sorry, you're muted.
	We'll come back to you.
	That's crazy.
	Probably six.
	I don't know.
	An eight.
	Bitch or a nine?
	Four and a half.
	Please don't use that misogynistic language here, Shirley.
	That was a positive.
	That was a positive.
	How dare you call this woman a bitch, Shirley?
	That's my possibility.
	You are a misogynist.
	You're no better than Andrew Texas.
	That was a positive.
	Shirley, that is disgusting.
	That was a positive.
	How dare you call her?
	Riley, are you upset?
	I'm not.
	Do you need a breather?
	Like, shit, she just called you a bitch.
	I feel so cornered right now.
	I don't know whether to take the chicken or throw it out.
	What should I do?
	The most misogynist misogynist.
	Can you say the word?
	Oh, dude.
	If I misogyny, the most misogynistic thing I've heard on this show.
	Did you guys forget about the whole like not talking thing?
	Okay.
	It's hard, I know.
	It was very misogynistic.
	I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.
	I want you to look Riley in the eyes and say, I'm sorry, I'm a misogynistic piece of shit.
	I'm not going to say that.
	And you are not a bitch.
	No, don't say it.
	That was meant to be endearing.
	No!
	Don't do that.
	I can't lie.
	I'm sorry.
	You can't lie?
	No.
	You're just going to double down on.
	Okay, anyways.
	Moving on.
	I try, though.
	All right, what about you?
	What do you rate yourself on a scale of one to ten?
	Four and a half.
	Okay.
	Six.
	What?
	Four.
	Five.
	Six.
	Eight.
	I get myself a five.
	Why do you guys have a moment?
	Is the mute over?
	Is the mute over?
	Because we know it's done in the middle.
	It's saying nothing about our subject.
	That's what everybody's been ten.
	Definitely higher.
	I'm on my way.
	It's been, I'm pretty sure it's.
	You're beautiful.
	All right.
	Desiree.
	Yeah.
	Your hair is amazing.
	I'll say four and a half.
	I can't be.
	Didn't you say you were 10 last time?
	Well, I changed because if you're a five and I'm your slave, I can't be more than you.
	What?
	Okay.
	I mean, I'm just doing the math.
	Awkward.
	You could have rated yourself higher and then I would have went higher.
	Okay.
	I'm just kind of a reflection, but like a little bit down.
	Oh, here's a question.
	Here's a question.
	Do you guys think, do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Starting with Shirley.
	Definitely not.
	Don't you get uglier as you age?
	That's pretty basic.
	My mom is hot.
	That's pretty much it.
	Desiree, what do you think?
	Well, honestly, I'm way hotter than I was 10 years ago, so I'm going to say I'm going to be hotter.
	Wait, so okay, you're 38.
	Yeah, bring up my Instagram.
	Are you not 30?
	I thought you were 39.
	I'm 38.
	I'll be 39 and a lever.
	Wait, so.
	You should bring, Nick, bring up my Instagram and scroll with me.
	No, we're not going to pull up your Instagram.
	We see you in real life.
	We're not going to pull out your degenerate.
	Your real life is going to be hotter.
	I was a late bloomer.
	Hold on, guys.
	Hold on.
	Guys, guys, stop.
	Okay.
	So, will you be better looking at 48 as compared to 30?
	Yes, I believe I will.
	Will you be better looking at 58 as compared to 38?
	I think so.
	You should get a plastic surgery.
	I don't ascribe to the traditional views of beauty.
	I love age.
	I love gray hair.
	I love the little wrinkles.
	I have little scars and things on my face that remind me of memories and seasons.
	I sleep.
	When I spoon with a guy, it's like this side of my face is smashed.
	I exactly like it is what it is.
	Inherent to me.
	It makes us unique.
	So I like.
	I like 68.
	Yeah, I'll keep getting more and more beautiful until I make my cream.
	You'll be more attractive.
	Yeah, I think so.
	108.
	Well, that's delusional.
	Well, but the thing is, it's my perspective of myself.
	So I'm judging myself based on my whole internal being, not based on external looks.
	So the question, repeat back to me.
	But even my external looks, when I look at myself, I'll only see beauty.
	Stop.
	It makes you feel good.
	Here, say back to me the question: Will I be more beautiful at 180?
	No, no, no.
	Will you be better looking physically in 10 years' time?
	Yes.
	But now you're saying, well, it's my whole physical, my whole being, my internal.
	I think I will feel more beautiful every decade than I did the decade before.
	Yes.
	Judging by my past.
	So you're 38.
	That's how it's made.
	You're 38.
	Do you think you're better looking now as compared to when you were 20?
	Yes, 100%.
	Do you think you're better looking now as compared to when you were 18?
	100%.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Vic, will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 33 as compared to now, 23?
	I hope so, but only one way to find out.
	Okay, what about 43?
	Probably not.
	Probably not.
	Okay, Riley.
	You're 31.
	Would you be better looking at 41?
	I hate looks.
	This is so.
	I hate shit like this.
	But yeah, like looking at my family jeans, everyone's pretty hot still.
	51?
	Yeah.
	61?
	Like she's, yeah.
	Yeah.
	61?
	My great-grandmother.
	71?
	My great-grandmother.
	I have the same type of family.
	My family's hot.
	Let's tell you guys.
	We're pulling young boys, okay?
	Like, yes.
	We're the ones who are familiar with the bikini.
	Desiree, stop quipping.
	It's just a thing.
	Do you know the quip is?
	Oh, my God.
	Do you know the quip is standing?
	Okay.
	So, are you better looking now at 31 than you were at 21?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Okay.
	That was cringe.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 30 than you are now at 20?
	No.
	Okay.
	Better looking now as compared in 10 years' time?
	I don't think I'm going to be better looking, but I think because I'm doing what needed to an older age, it's just a privilege to age because some people don't get to 40.
	Period.
	So, wait, better looking at 60?
	No, I'm not talking about how I look.
	Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
	I don't care how I look.
	I don't think I'm going to look better than now.
	No, I'm going to be older.
	And then better looking.
	Were you better looking 10 years ago as compared to now at 50?
	I don't know.
	I look, yeah, I don't know.
	What about 30 to 50?
	I loved my 30s more my.
	30s were the.
	Okay.
	And then what about 20?
	20.
	Better looking at 20 as compared to now?
	I don't know if I look that good, but I definitely had a really bubbly personality.
	But people always thought I'm like sexian, you know.
	Okay.
	You are.
	26, better looking in 10 years' time at 36?
	Yes.
	Okay, 46?
	Yes.
	20 years' time?
	56?
	Yes.
	Well, how about the real answer?
	No, yeah, for real.
	Yeah.
	66?
	Uh-uh.
	So 56, that's when you peak.
	Come to me to do both of you.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	You're 30 better looking at 40 than you are now at 30.
	It's possible.
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	You don't know.
	No.
	Oh, I'll say no.
	Okay, and then were you better looking at 20 as compared to now at 30?
	No, I look better now.
	Look better now.
	Okay.
	Facts.
	And then Grace, 19.
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 29 as compared to how you look now?
	Yeah.
	39?
	Probably, because again, my mom looked really good for her age.
	Yeah.
	So 20 years' time you'll be better looking at 39 as compared to now at 19?
	Oh, if we're doing no.
	But at 39, you'll be better looking than at 29.
	If you look to me for both of them, I guess I'm amazing.
	No, I was going to.
	No, I guess if you take it that way.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Those are some interesting answers there.
	How old are you?
	35.
	No way.
	Ooh.
	Do I look older or younger?
	I thought you were 28.
	I thought you were 25.
	My first guess was 28.
	You look 35.
	Yeah, I feel like I look my age.
	When I started the show, I think I could have gotten away with.
	How old are you?
	How old were you?
	Almost like older than that.
	I started at 33, but I could have passed for 29.
	But, bro, this should age me.
	Next time, I'll bring both shots to the bottom.
	Guys, go back to like episode 15 and just compare, bro.
	It's crazy.
	Yep.
	Anyways, so that's an interesting one.
	Let's see.
	More notes from Shirley.
	Why me?
	Or wait, no, this is not from.
	I think we got all your notes.
	Great, thank you.
	Shirley.
	Sheena.
	Shirley.
	Let's say, let's see here.
	Why is there a.
	A what?
	Yep.
	Huh?
	What?
	Why is there a...
	Are you...
	Referring to the...
	Are you against...
	No, I'm just wondering.
	Are you again?
	I'm just wondering why Women dating black men is like you got a problem?
	No, my goal in life is to make a blazion, so a blasian.
	Oh my god, that's the same thing you're doing.
	You're not a baby!
	What do you mean?
	No, I don't have a baby.
	Listen, we at the whatever podcast believe in diversity.
	Inclusion.
	Inclusion.
	You think it would be cool?
	Go ahead, Brian.
	I'm not talking about the black.
	You want to try to blame me?
	I had a fantasy a long time ago.
	Sorry, Dennis.
	You don't get the baby.
	You don't get the race nurse.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	You don't want to show me that.
	I thought you wanted a blazing baby.
	I'm not even talking about race.
	I just, why do you have a baby?
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	She just said that.
	Wait, what?
	Mama?
	What?
	You had a fantasy of nursing a black.
	I had a fantasy, like, back when I, in my Christian days, when I was an evangelist and I was doing a lot of missionary work, I had a fantasy of going over to the tribes, like the starving black babies, and like because I had read The Grapes of Wrath, and at the end of the grapes of wrath.
	Stop, because Riley's going to be shut the fuck up.
	At the end of the race of race, and the woman's baby dies, and so she literally breaks the man like back to nursing.
	And it just always hit me.
	Like, it just really hit me.
	And I wanted to do I'm a humanitarian type, and I thought, like, well, if I'm making the milk, I'll just sit there and feed starving babies all day.
	Get the baby out.
	Let's save it for a little later.
	I'll come back to it.
	We will come back to that.
	But I'll let you ask any questions you want.
	Let me just get through a couple things.
	Wait, so we have, we got some.
	Oh, wait, let's do something light.
	Wait, is it light?
	Can we change it?
	Oh, this is going viral.
	Okay, Nick, there's two Reddit posts.
	There's the one.
	Oh, wait.
	Wait, do we have two different Reddit posts?
	No, it's the one.
	Shoot.
	Okay.
	What's going on?
	I don't know why.
	How is that?
	Let me see if I can find it one sec.
	You have a black thing.
	I'm nursing first.
	Can you start thinking of that?
	Wait, is it the one that says, I think I destroyed our relationship?
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Okay.
	Pull up the first one.
	Just the first one.
	All right, guys, I'm going to get your reactions to this.
	And we're going to have Grace read this.
	Okay, everybody.
	I think I destroyed our relationship trying to compliment my boyfriend.
	My boyfriend and I are both.
	Can we move that down a little bit?
	My boyfriend and I are both 28 years old and together for 2.5 years.
	Yeah.
	Yesterday night we were drinking and one thing led to another and I tried to compliment him by saying he is not someone who I would hook up with or be friends with benefits with but marry.
	I thought everything was fine but he seemed extremely distraught after that.
	I realized how he understood it and try to clarify it, but he is still the same this morning.
	He told me he needs space to think for a while and left the house.
	All my friends tell me I messed it up with the guy and tells me it's not a compliment and most men will understand it differently.
	I think I destroyed our relationship and I am panicking right now.
	Okay, so we're gonna go around the table and we're gonna hmm do we start?
	I think we start over here this time.
	Your reaction to this grace will get everybody we'll get everybody's response.
	Okay, maybe this is bad, but when I read stuff, I don't comprehend things.
	I'm being trying to be like, hold up for like five seconds.
	Okay, hold up for like five seconds.
	Let me understand the comments.
	Hold that.
	Yes, I went to the drinking.
	Okay, I mean, I kind of confused, but yeah.
	I'll start with you.
	No reaction.
	Okay, so basically, look, she's got a boyfriend, and she said he's not someone who I would hook up or be a friends with benefits with, but marry.
	Okay, wait, I can start.
	He realized that.
	He was upset.
	He was upset to the point where it's on the brink of a breakup.
	So let's just start with Shirley.
	Go ahead.
	I just think guys are scared of like long-term commitments or relationships.
	Oh, I feel like guys are scared.
	So when she was like, oh, I feel like basically she was like, oh, I can marry you.
	So I think that scared him.
	No.
	No.
	Completely not the same.
	I don't think that.
	I don't think that's not that.
	No, completely that's not the case.
	You got it wrong.
	I think he probably took it in a way of like, oh, I'm not hot enough for you to do a one-night stand or something.
	Completely not true.
	Oh, I don't think that.
	Completely not true.
	We'll get the girl's response, then we'll actually pull up the responses to the rather bad.
	Go ahead, Desiree.
	I think he's just presenting with obviously a narcissistic agenda in the relationship where he was in the relationship to get a certain feeling from her.
	And when she presented him with hilonius that didn't align with what he was wanting from her, then he basically discarded her emotionally.
	Like, she's not going.
	She doesn't think I'm super hot.
	She doesn't think I fuck her super well.
	So I couldn't even be her fuckboy.
	And so I think it fucked with him where he took it like he's not hot enough, whatever.
	And that's why he was in the relationship to feel good about himself.
	So that didn't make him feel good about himself, and he was done with it.
	Because a real relationship, you can't fuck it up.
	Nope.
	You cannot fuck it up.
	All right, we'll get everybody's responsibility.
	We've learned more talks.
	We'll get everybody's response.
	What was the answer again?
	I want to respond.
	And I'll just hold it.
	I was confused upon first read because my thought process is not the same as this man's.
	But I think this man is just upset that she says that she would hook up with people and that's what he's upset about.
	Not that, because obviously her compliment in her eyes was, oh, you're the type of guy that I would take seriously.
	You know?
	And I think maybe he's upset that she would take any guy not seriously.
	Okay.
	My comprehension is he probably felt like she wasn't as sexually attracted to him.
	For men, a lot of relationships, they want to feel like you want them, you're attracted to them.
	And she kind of made it seem like he's just kind of the nice guy.
	And she usually wouldn't, like, she's not like, oh, you're so hot.
	Like, a man wants to feel like that.
	Like, you have to tell your man, like, oh, I want you.
	Like, if you're telling him, oh, I'm just going to marry you.
	You're just the marriage material.
	It kind of dumbs down the whole excitement of him being with you.
	I don't know.
	I would feel kind of shitty if I heard that too.
	Honestly, I kind of agree with you just because, like, I feel like when I was reading it, it just kind of seemed like, okay, like, I think I see you as like, okay, like, I can marry you.
	Like, I don't know, like, I don't see you as some like one night hookup, like, whatever.
	Okay.
	No, you're good.
	Just let her speak.
	Go ahead.
	But I don't know.
	That's what I was, like, gonna say the same thing.
	Okay.
	Okay, so I think, girls, you got it wrong.
	The man finally realized after being in a relationship with this woman that he's with a hoe and not with a good woman, because she do have the capability to have one night stance and random sex.
	And she played the trick on him, the oldest trick in the book, if you want a guy seriously, you don't give him sex.
	And she revealed her true face to him and that's why he doesn't want her.
	And guys, correct me if i'm wrong.
	You're wrong, i'm not.
	Yeah, I was thinking that a man.
	I actually agree.
	I agree with her, but okay, i'm not wrong at all.
	I feel like he's just got a haturan out, like what.
	So what?
	Like are you then?
	Are you the one?
	Who is?
	What the heck?
	It's just a stupid things to say.
	Like what?
	What was the reason for it?
	Like he doesn't need that shit for it.
	You know, doesn't need that shit, that's it.
	Okay, I guess I'm not exactly sure.
	I would just think that if I gave that type of compliment to a guy and he got upset and left, I probably wouldn't want to be with him anyway, so nothing lost.
	I don't deal with emotional pity party men.
	Wait, why would that be immature?
	I'm not saying it's immature.
	Bro, you didn't even say that, bro.
	She said that shit.
	Shut the fuck up, Desiree.
	God damn.
	You didn't say it.
	She did.
	Zip it.
	Zip it.
	Good.
	Go ahead.
	If I was giving someone which I feel like is the highest compliment, in my opinion, and I was misunderstood and it hurt their feelings, that's kind of their problem.
	It's a big argument.
	Yeah, it's a compliment.
	But that's just my opinion.
	I don't want a man that's sulking and, oh, that hurt my feelings.
	And I got enough feelings, you know, like with something that's a compliment.
	It's just like, it is a compliment.
	Do you think you want to marry her?
	She revealed a compliment.
	She revealed it a compliment.
	She revealed to him.
	I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
	She revealed to him that you have the capability to just, sorry, F a guy, one night stand, and not what she did with him, that she was waiting.
	I didn't want those mental gymnastics in that thought, though.
	Right.
	That's not where my brain is.
	Oh, my God.
	Women don't understand at all how a guy thinks.
	That's ridiculous.
	That is a compliment.
	Like, here, it's a compliment.
	Levels of obsessive.
	You girls don't understand men's heads.
	That's why you are like this, because you don't understand how a man thinks.
	Go ahead, Grace.
	Your reaction.
	Honestly, I kind of agree.
	Honestly, I agree with her over here.
	Like, if I say, oh, you're the type of guy I want to marry and not just hook up with, I feel like my brain would be instantly like, okay, you're exactly what I want in a man.
	You're this, you're this, you're this, you're this.
	Why would I throw that away and just like, right?
	What about your ability to hook up?
	But if you ignore that, the ability that you have to hook up, guys don't want girls to hook up and being in a one-night stand.
	I don't think that's what she meant.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Okay, so I think here's the guy perspective: is that as a guy, if you're in a relationship with a girl, you would want to be the guy that she wants a long-term relationship with, but you would also want to be the guy that she would have enough desire for or be attracted to enough or be turned on enough to also want casual sex or a one-night stand from you.
	Exactly.
	But when it's one or the other, I think that's kind of a good idea.
	Oh, Devon Jackson.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I promise you.
	All that man heard was you're the type of guy I would make wait for sex, even though I've let men who are obviously worse than you hit it without even needing to take me on a date.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, so you do have a good point where it's like she's that type of girl that's had those kind of experiences, but I do think it's kind of more like a dig at him.
	Like, we want to, if we're in a relationship with a girl, we want to be the type that you would have a one-night stand with or have a one-stand stand.
	That too, of course.
	Totally.
	And also be, but it would be a compliment if it's like, but I also want a serious relationship with you.
	But if it's like, well, you don't turn me on.
	I don't find you sexually desirable enough to have a one-night stand with you.
	You are just a profile.
	You're a Jessica.
	They're the safe fallback option.
	Can I say something?
	No.
	I'm not allowed to say anything.
	You can stop.
	So my commentary is just that women want that same equality.
	We want to feel like we're your slut, like you're a dirty slut.
	We're your wife, that you would want to do all the things.
	How is that?
	That's what I want, and that's what I'm always doing.
	I don't want that for everyone watching.
	I don't want that either.
	I like to feel like I'm your slut.
	Like, I just like that.
	I'm a very sexual person, obviously.
	Hypersexual, sex addict, whatever you want to call it, nympho.
	Kinky, whatever you want to call it, that's how I am.
	So obviously it's important.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's read a couple of the comments.
	Nick, if you can pull up the thread.
	Let's see what the comments have to say.
	Okay.
	Why would you eat?
	Are some of the most top-rated ones?
	Why would you even say that, LMFAO?
	Blue Speedy, I completely understand what you're trying to say, but as all other commenters here have pointed out, what you've actually said is something along the lines of, I've hooked up with better people who are more my type before.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	Stay there.
	Hold on, stay there.
	Exactly the way OP, original poster, said it will make her boyfriend believe that he was her safe beta male option after she got to discover herself with the 10-10 guys that she knows that wouldn't commit to her.
	That's one of the worst things you can say to a guy.
	It's like saying, your dick is just perfect.
	The big ones hurt too much.
	A woman can see that as a good thing, but it will kill the ego of most men.
	OP really screwed up big time, and she even told what she said to her circle.
	If her boyfriend knows that it will be worse, okay, scroll down.
	Rookie mistake.
	You were supposed to be saying dumb shit like this in high school.
	So you wouldn't mess up there.
	I think you meant to say he was too good, but it sounds like he's bad.
	Scroll down.
	I'll be 100% honest as I would with any guy friend I have.
	What you said and how you said it makes it look like you had your fun, got to fuck the cool guys you'd want just for sex, and after you decided to go to him because he's a safe option, it's a great way to emasculate him and make him feel as nothing more than the safe choice.
	You made him think you're not attracted to him, but he's but that he's a good person, so that's why you were with him.
	I would feel horrible after that too.
	Think twice next time.
	You basically just told him that you don't feel a raw animal attraction to him.
	Scroll down.
	I'll just do one or two more.
	The thing is that meant as settling for someone most of the time, like you are not fun to hang out with, but you can provide a stable life.
	You implied that you don't think he's good looking by putting the emphasis on the I would not hook up with you instead of the your husband material.
	You make him feel like he's not sexually attractive.
	And last one, oof, what a stupid thing to say makes it look like you settled for him after a life of fun.
	What he heard is I had fun with other guys, but you're the safe option, so I'm settling for you.
	Boom.
	Interesting.
	Let me pull up some of the chats.
	One sec, guys.
	Dave on, thank you for the TTS from earlier, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We have Sean.
	Dez imprinted on you.
	You better hit it or her werewolf ass will eat you.
	That's probably true.
	That's probably true.
	Okay.
	Cool, I guess.
	Thank you for the message, man.
	Thank you, Sean.
	We have big rig trucking.
	Yes, women going around telling us that it's her body, her choice, but gets disgusted when men see them for the choices that they make.
	USA, USA, USA.
	Trump MAGA 2024.
	Also, Tim Walz drink horse.
	What the fuck, Seaman?
	Shout out to R/Conservative on Reddit.
	God bless you.
	Stay safe.
	Okay, thank you, Big Rig Trucking, for the Super Chat Man.
	Appreciate it.
	And appreciate what you do for the transporting things in your truck.
	Appreciate it, man.
	You're a legend, sir.
	You're a legend.
	Where did everybody go?
	What the fuck?
	I don't know.
	God damn.
	Okay.
	Let's get into some of the notes here.
	We have Jen.
	You said you're single but never alone.
	Did we get into that?
	Yes, we do.
	So you got a guy currently then.
	What was that?
	You got a guy currently?
	You said you're single, but never alone.
	If we were chatting with a guy, and then it comes out into the, you know, like talking about like, yay, you know, flirting to each other, then I definitely go straight up and be like, hey, I'm not looking for any terriers.
	If you're okay with it, good.
	If we're not, I'm not going to, you know, get into it.
	But it's mostly because I want to.
	If the other person wants to, then it happens.
	If he doesn't, it's fine.
	Desiree, can you get off your phone?
	I just checking in with my kids really quick.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So you were saying that if you're just horny or whatever, then.
	Well, not necessarily if I'm horny, not all times.
	But if it's like, if it clicks, like both of us are consenting and both of us are looking for it, then yeah.
	Okay.
	You said you have many interesting dates, living hell, but that's still not the best.
	You start dating at 12 years old, and this is back in El Salvador.
	You're a Salvadorina.
	Salvadorian.
	Salvadorina.
	So you have stories of pretty interesting types of relationships of different cultures, traditions.
	So I guess really quick, what's the difference dating in El Salvador as compared to this dog?
	Yo.
	Oh, wait.
	What's his name?
	What's his dog?
	Slim.
	Slim.
	Come here, bro.
	Come here, Slim.
	Okay.
	Well, yeah.
	Alright, just let him do his thing, I guess.
	He's underneath you.
	Okay.
	Or me.
	All right.
	Dogs underneath me, apparently.
	So what's the difference between dating Salvador, El Salvador, well, my experience is I liked, first of all, I liked more the relationships I had in Salvador than here.
	And I'm talking about over when I was 15, not 12.
	That was not really a relationship.
	Because there was a lot of reasons.
	One, they take it seriously.
	Like, we bond each other.
	Like, we actually have some type of love.
	Like, we discover each other.
	We.
	All this romance, I will say.
	But here, it's been a lot of more sexualized.
	Like, it's more just about the sex.
	More about the oh, it's okay, open-minded.
	You know, like, it's not between just you and I anymore.
	It's more like, let's bring another person, you know?
	But when you get into it, the other persons don't like it.
	Like, it's kind of like, okay, it's either we get into it or we don't at all.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Oh, my God.
	All right.
	I want to respond to that.
	I want to respond.
	You said.
	Sorry.
	You said that they asked you to bring another person to the relationship.
	Alright, and I'm just like, if I'm not into it, I say no, they were getting mad about it, you know?
	So let me break the truth to you.
	They don't care about you.
	Of course not.
	That's why I don't see it as a sexual tool.
	That's why I don't like it.
	Oh, I saw it, Nick.
	I saw it.
	You can start something with two people and then you want to bring someone else.
	It's just not, you know, it is definitely not going to work out.
	You shouldn't even talk about it.
	It's embarrassing that people know that that's what guys are offering you.
	I wouldn't even talk about it.
	Oh, no, I'm not saying I'm into it.
	I said when that has happened and I'm not, I don't want it.
	You know, I don't want it.
	They get mad about it.
	I'm just like, well, I don't care.
	I don't want that.
	I don't know what they get.
	You disconnect and that's it.
	Exactly.
	I finish it and that's it, you know?
	I don't have to explain it.
	They think you're weak and they saw something in your life.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So I don't allow that.
	I don't want to put myself in that position.
	Definitely not.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have, let's see.
	Nope, she's not here.
	We have.
	Is that it for most of the notes?
	Let me just read this really quick.
	Sorry, guys, one sec.
	Actually, you know what?
	There's another thing we have to react to.
	Oh, we got the tweets.
	Let's get into Shirley's tweets.
	Oh, my gosh.
	What did I do?
	Everything.
	You did everything.
	You did everything.
	What am I tweeting?
	Oh, wow.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, wow.
	I tweeted a little.
	I don't.
	I'm not good at it.
	I hate bailing on the fence mostly because I hate when people bail on me.
	2017!
	You did your research, sir.
	Let's go.
	2017.
	Dude, it was been so hard to get you scheduled.
	To get you scheduled.
	2017, though.
	Let's go.
	Shit.
	Okay, next.
	Wait.
	I hate when people are.
	Here, you read it.
	I know, right?
	Wait, is it because we were late?
	Just read it.
	Maybe.
	Read it.
	I hate when people are late.
	I'm guilty too, but punctuality is gold.
	You are clever, bro.
	He's good.
	He's good.
	I can't.
	Yeah, but I'm so glad he does it.
	Next.
	Oh, and this is.
	Was this after your Jesse Lee Peterson thing?
	This was actually after DJ Vlad threatened me.
	Oh.
	What?
	Wait, wait.
	Talk about it.
	Don't be scared.
	We made peace now, but should women threaten men?
	Is this a trick question?
	No.
	No, it's not a trick question.
	No.
	But you almost answered.
	No?
	No.
	Is it as bad?
	What's worse?
	Oh, my gosh.
	You're trying to just be Peterson me.
	I'm not trying to do that.
	Oh, my God.
	Is it worse?
	When a man threatens a woman or when a woman threatens a man or is it not?
	It's all equal.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then we have some tweets from Riley.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, boy, Riley.
	We're going to get into it.
	Okay.
	You said it doesn't have your social media.
	So, Riley, I'm going to have you just read them for us and then we'll go.
	I know.
	I hate Father's Day.
	I really try to be supportive and keep my low vibrations away from everyone, but I hate it.
	Why do you hate Father's Day?
	She went on record earlier about it.
	She said that.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	We already.
	Heartless, Brian.
	Heartless.
	That part.
	Put a buzzer on Brian.
	Burr, burr.
	She remembered briefly earlier.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I don't think you were here today.
	Probably wasn't there or something.
	Oh, my God.
	Not the J. Cole tweet.
	Jeez.
	Can you read it?
	J. Cole looks so hot right now after that speech.
	I swear, where are Roman like this?
	All the men are mad, and that's because they're losers.
	J. Cole just got a whole new set of groupies from that speech.
	What's she?
	When he backed down from the K-dot B.
	Oh.
	He wasn't afraid to just be like, yo, this isn't my body.
	Like, I like when men know how to get the fuck out.
	Next.
	Oh, no.
	I'm such a menace.
	When men come in the elevator, they always look you up and down.
	It's so awkward.
	I hate that shit.
	I literally hate when I see a man coming towards the elevator.
	I'm like, do the same on him.
	Do the same on him.
	Every time.
	Okay.
	Toxic.
	All right.
	Damn.
	That's funny.
	Y'all.
	Damn, y'all.
	Y'all don't like men.
	What the fuck?
	Everyone does that?
	I have two.
	I don't love elevator doors.
	That's funny.
	If any person is approaching, I have to keep it, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I would want someone to whithley.
	No, that's too much.
	I love men.
	They're just.
	Next.
	You're imperfect.
	Can you read it?
	Can you read it?
	Scroll up.
	I definitely stand on this.
	Okay, that's good.
	Yes, because that was literally the day before my birthday.
	I'll read it for the audience.
	Read it, read it.
	White women, y'all are going to have to get up and stand for something.
	Being white isn't even cool anymore.
	Why?
	That is a fact.
	Not true.
	Not true.
	As a white woman, I find this incredibly fucking disrespectful.
	Exactly.
	I'd say it.
	Say it, Ryan.
	Speak at your kid to the white women in the room.
	I'm not full white yet.
	Even in this respect, I'm listening.
	Yes, this is about the Kamala Harris thing.
	I'm voting for her.
	It's apologies.
	Oh, my God.
	Of course, you are.
	She's dumb as hell.
	But are we going to vote for Trump?
	Yes.
	Why would I vote for Trump?
	You have no business to vote for Trump if you don't.
	So you don't have the same experience I have when Trump was in office and people were calling me niggers and all.
	Trump is not right now.
	She's disavowing.
	Oh my God, please.
	You just seriously put yourself here because you'll get Desiree excited.
	Please don't use that word.
	No.
	Well, thank you for your comment.
	What do you mean?
	Well, I'll tell you after the show.
	That was a whole word.
	Disavow.
	Okay.
	Yeah, when he was in office, they put spray paint on my uncle's.
	Yeah, it's almost like.
	You know about her scandal in the 80s?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Never mind.
	I want to know.
	Let's not.
	Wait, I thought Trump didn't Trump do a lot for the black community.
	He's the only one that did for the black community.
	He did a lot.
	Of course.
	What do you do for the black community?
	Honey, the Black Lives Matter owned by Jews, not by blacks.
	I'm not talking about Black Lives Matter.
	Just so you know.
	All right, okay, moving on.
	Next tweet.
	Can you read it?
	What?
	Another one.
	Why?
	Yeah, I'm trying to.
	Why the fuck did it take this long?
	Like, I don't understand how white people just cast a bunch of white people and say they aren't racist.
	Yes, are you?
	What are you talking about?
	How do you think black people are way more racist than white people?
	What are you talking about?
	All these countries are racist.
	Can't be inherently racist.
	What?
	My grandfather is empowered.
	My grandfather's oppressed white people.
	My grandfather's family.
	Okay, racist is my black family more race.
	Racism is Asia.
	Do I have the power to stop you from getting a job?
	Do you have the power to stop?
	Honey, all the best jobs.
	IRS, all the best jobs literally owned by black people.
	What are you talking about, seriously?
	Stealing what?
	Go to immigration.
	Go to the banks.
	Go to social services.
	It's all black people.
	I know.
	We should probably get off.
	We should probably change it.
	No, no, it's okay.
	This isn't going to go on.
	Unbelievable.
	You're not going to like what I'm doing.
	Who's stealing the job?
	So I'm not going to say that.
	Riley?
	Do you say that it's called racism and ignorance?
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, wait, you're getting up.
	We got more tweets.
	No, she has.
	Oh, okay.
	She's got.
	God damn, what are you doing?
	More tweets.
	Are they all about racism?
	All these countries are racist toward each other, and everybody's hypocrite talking behind each other's back.
	I posted it.
	I'm on the right.
	Just say how I feel.
	That's exactly how I feel.
	I hope I didn't steal your job.
	Sorry.
	What was the tweet?
	Can you pull the tweet back?
	Well, what do you think about this, right?
	So, okay.
	House of the Dragon.
	House Valerion.
	Valerian.
	Valerion.
	Valerian.
	What are you guys talking about?
	What is Valerion?
	Please explain.
	Valerian.
	There's different pronunciations.
	What is Valerian?
	Say it.
	Say it.
	It wasn't black in the books.
	Or the Little Mermaid.
	I thought you didn't know what they were talking about.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	What are you guys talking about?
	What are you guys doing?
	I'm just saying.
	Look, I'm just saying.
	Can you explain for those who don't have to be aware of that?
	I don't know if you're explaining your point.
	I'm trying to figure this out.
	What is House of What?
	What is happening?
	What is this?
	The Game of Thrones seek prequel.
	What the fuck?
	I don't watch that shit.
	The prequel, excuse me.
	I don't watch that shit.
	I'm just saying.
	I do.
	I watch it.
	I'm just saying.
	I can't understand what that is.
	His point that he was making is that big franchises have been casting people of color in white people's votes.
	Yeah, because it shouldn't be.
	It benefits them now.
	But society has always told black people that they weren't good enough.
	They constantly tell them that over and over when they put, I'm talking about not just that one show, but their shows that I've watched with a full cast of white people.
	And you sit up here and tell me that you guys go a full year of filming and you tell me you don't cast a single black person or a single Asian person or a single Spanish person, any person of color, and there's no person of color in the whole entire show.
	And you can't tell me that that's not systematically racist.
	That's crazy.
	That's delusional.
	I'm just saying.
	You have the privilege.
	Do you guys have the privilege to pretend like it's not happening?
	Look, I'm just saying.
	It's not canon.
	It's not canon.
	I want to answer you.
	In every country that the basic is white, naturally, the basic, not just white.
	If you go to Africa, because of colonialism.
	Wait, wait.
	If you go to, okay, I come from a country that in America, everybody thinks Israel is white privilege.
	Completely the opposite.
	Most of the people in Israel actually black and dark skin, right?
	Yeah, that's true.
	Wait, but let me tell you something.
	Let me tell you something.
	If a white person would go to Africa right now, the African are going to be racist to them.
	Every basic of the country, it's natural.
	But America in particular, I'm telling you as an immigrant here, this is the most racist country I've been in my life.
	Absolutely.
	And it's towards both sides.
	I've seen black that are so racist to white, and I've seen white that's so racist to black.
	There's not one side of the equation.
	Both of you are racist to each other and talk shit about each other.
	And I've seen it.
	I can say that because I didn't born in this country.
	Okay, what I'm saying to you is you're absolutely right.
	Everyone has prejudices and everyone says little racist things here and there.
	But what I'm saying is systematically, white people benefit from the system.
	They've always been able to benefit from the system in America.
	They're constantly being able to put in jobs.
	I've seen, I've gone to work with the same qualifications as other white women and they have gotten the job over me.
	And not because I'm not qualified, not because I'm not this or I don't look a certain way.
	Because inherently they're racist.
	I agree with you.
	I'm not saying I'm absolved from being racist.
	I'm saying black people don't have the power to act on their racism.
	We can't.
	No, that's not, I don't know.
	We don't.
	We don't have the power to.
	Can I say something about regarding?
	Because I see it from the outside perspective.
	Okay?
	Like, I identify as Jewish, even though I'm half Muslim, right?
	And I cannot hide.
	I mean, I can hide my Judaism, whatever, because, you know, I don't have a dark skin color, right?
	Yeah, okay.
	You cannot hide it.
	When you go to the street, people, of course, are going to pre-judge you and assume stuff like you're trying to do this.
	I totally get it.
	But with that being said, I'll give you an example.
	When the Jews finish the Holocaust and come to America.
	Well, let me just finish this sentence.
	We're getting way back.
	Please.
	Please, I want to just finish that.
	When the Jews come to America after the Holocaust, they didn't sit and cry about it.
	They created job to other people.
	Unfortunately, it's up on you to prove people with your brain.
	If people want to be assholes and judge you, wait, wait.
	The way I hear from every person that shared it.
	I don't know what I want to say.
	People are going to judge you.
	Should I do an asshole?
	People are going to judge you always.
	People are going to be always judgmental towards your skin color.
	They're going to judge you.
	Absolutely.
	That you're not smart, that you're this, that you're that.
	I agree with that completely.
	I've seen it with my own eyes.
	But it's nothing to do about it except being better, learn more, and prove yourself more to the society.
	Absolutely.
	I get what you're saying.
	That's not disrespectful.
	But it's frustrating.
	Of course, of course, it's frustrating.
	Absolutely.
	But every black person, we all have the same saying.
	It's living while being black.
	Driving while being black.
	Walking while being black.
	Because you're always going to have to deal with the little microaggressions when you go to school.
	Oh, you're pretty for a black girl.
	Oh, let me touch your hair.
	The little jokes that they make.
	They used to say the N-word in school.
	Like people that weren't black, they would say the N-word to make fun of the fact that black men used to line their hair up a certain way.
	And they'd call it the inline, the inline.
	So what I'm trying to explain to you is: okay, yeah, cool.
	You can say racist stuff every day, but do you have the power to stop a generation or a demographic of people from succeeding in a society like this?
	No, I want to answer for this.
	You don't have the power to do it.
	Gotta move it on.
	Got it up.
	Sorry.
	Moving it on.
	Moving it on.
	I do want to say, though, even though House of Valarion, Valerian, stop, stop, stop.
	Even though House of Valerian, it's not canon that they're not black in the books.
	I actually think they cast the actor Steve Touch.
	It's Steve Toussaint, Toussaint.
	Which one?
	Steve, the older guy.
	The older guy.
	Great.
	He did a great job.
	Great job.
	Good job, Steve.
	Great job, Steve.
	It just, it does change the story a little bit.
	Well, I think it adds to the point of the story that Raniro's children are.
	I can't, can I say that?
	Well, it makes it more obvious that they're not exactly.
	But in the books, it's not on us.
	It has more to do with the hair color.
	Yeah.
	But it's not immediately clear.
	So it makes the racial change in the show makes it like that Raniero's children are totally dropped the ball with season two of House of the Dragon.
	Let me tell you.
	They did.
	The ending was so underwhelming.
	I was so mad.
	They let the fucking showrunner from season one, Sapicek, what's his name?
	Miguel.
	I just hate it.
	I hate it.
	First of all, Emma Darcy.
	Miguel Sapochnik.
	They let the show.
	They dropped one of the best showrunners.
	Terrible.
	Absolutely.
	Tragedy.
	It wasn't.
	It was just one big teaser episode.
	They edged.
	Room $667 donated $200.
	Thank you, Run.
	Human beings are racist.
	It's in nature.
	White people are less than 9% of the world's population, and we are forced to be multicultural.
	Exactly.
	You are more likely to get a job in America if you're not white.
	Oh, like DEI stuff and affirmative action.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Ruin HQ.
	Appreciate the TTS, man.
	Thank you.
	Okay, let's get through the rest of the tweets.
	There's more.
	There's more.
	I don't think there's true, though.
	I don't think people are anything.
	Riley.
	Go ahead, Rita.
	I just don't like men right now.
	It seems that every corner they let me down when I need them the most.
	Not all men are that way.
	It just seems to be a trend for me right now.
	I just give up for a while.
	All right.
	Why do you write private stuff like that?
	Wait, pull it back up real quick.
	It's Twitter.
	Twitter, whatever.
	You don't like men right now?
	That's what Twitter's for, like random thoughts.
	You don't like men?
	Damn, bro.
	Why you gotta throw us under the bus?
	I said that's just my experience.
	I didn't say that was.
	All right, next.
	White science.
	What the fuck?
	What does that mean?
	It means that the world was developed upon white science.
	So a lot of skincare and stuff that is diagnosed in America does not necessarily apply to all races.
	Yeah, but in Africa, it's for black and not for white people.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But it depends on the majority of the population.
	It's not necessarily racist.
	Which is true.
	White science.
	White science is the majority in America.
	Listen, Brian is really scared of Twitter.
	Black people proved themselves in the last 50 years not to super traumatized.
	Not to him either.
	What did they have to do?
	I don't know.
	Before slavery, surprise black didn't let them read and write.
	Yeah.
	Treat them like slaves and everything.
	But evolution proved that they are not like that.
	They're smart, they're capable, they can do anything.
	So, you know, if somebody's racist, they're stupid.
	It's on them.
	It's not on you.
	No idea.
	They are worse than me, but I'm saying it affects generations.
	It affects people every day.
	It doesn't actually take collective consciousness.
	You should take that pain and you should take that.
	Next tweet.
	I don't care about proving people wrong.
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	I need a man, not these little ass boys.
	What do you mean, little ass boys?
	They're all tweets.
	What do you mean?
	Like, I think I'm mad.
	A man is going to be assertive and speaks with intention and moves with intention.
	Everybody needs a man.
	I feel like boys don't.
	You need a man.
	This is how I feel still to this day.
	It's so sad.
	The male species is so fucking inferior.
	They should just be extinct at this point.
	You are feeling a wow, wow.
	Who did that to you?
	I feel like I just.
	I hate that.
	I feel like it's not just what happened to me.
	I feel like I've seen this for a while.
	Like women being treated like shit.
	Like my friends going through shit all the time and they do so much for their men.
	Or you're with a man for four years and you spend all this energy and you put all this time.
	It's like they're not even thinking.
	You can't even.
	A lot of men, when I go on dates with them, they can't even have a conversation, like intellectually conversation like we have.
	You know why?
	Because you pick to begin with the low-level men.
	You need to pick up a menu.
	I hate that whole women pain.
	It's just more like where are you finding these types of men?
	What type of man do you want in your life?
	Go towards that pace.
	Like if you continue on.
	And be the person you want to date.
	Be the same, the person that you want to be.
	I mean, absolutely.
	Well, that's not what I was saying.
	I'm saying, like, no, you pick up people you're around more.
	So if you're at a bar, if you're at a party, you're probably not going to find the most straightforward man like that.
	Not all the time, but I think that's the whole concept of dating.
	You get to know people and you find out you don't like them, so you don't talk to them anymore.
	It's the hunt of dating.
	Not necessarily saying I want a man right now.
	But what I am saying is, yeah, I feel like it's very hard to communicate with men just from the whole gender wars: the women talk too much, or women don't know how to please men.
	And then it's, I hate men because men don't do this and don't do that.
	Like, I feel like the conversation with men can, I feel more superior sometimes when I'm speaking because I feel like, yo, like, I could talk to a man that's 45 and then talk to a man that's 28 and they both have the same intellect, the level of intellect.
	And it's like, what's going on?
	Where I'm online and I'm seeing men say these really small, immature things.
	I'm like, is this the trend right now?
	The man where they feel like they, like my friend, she was going on a date with this guy and she thought he was a really nice guy.
	And he sits up and he tells her that he's not going to open the door for her because she's spoiled and she needs to.
	So she needs to live that man.
	Oh, well, absolutely.
	That's definitely right off the bat.
	But it's just like, why are men thinking like this?
	That is a very inferior way to think when you feel like you have to.
	What's inferior?
	To open the door for a girl.
	Yeah, to not open the door.
	Hold on.
	That's inferior?
	No, it's not.
	It's just not gentlemanlike.
	Yes.
	You're thinking small.
	I think y'all can do that shit yourselves.
	If you're trying to date, that's democratic.
	I will not touch a door.
	No, that's democratic thinking.
	You don't want to spoil it.
	Like, you're dating a woman and you tell her that you're not going to open the door for her because you feel like she's spoiled.
	No, I wouldn't say that.
	You don't see that.
	That's crazy.
	I would just be like, you can do that.
	I agree with her.
	But you expect to have sex with me, though.
	You want to have sex with me.
	You want to parade me around the city with you.
	No.
	You want me to party with you.
	You want me to do all these things with you, but you don't want to open the door.
	Like, stuff like that makes me feel like, yeah, the male species is inferior.
	Because why would you think like that?
	Why would generalize like that?
	There are so many good men out there.
	There's so many.
	So many.
	Listen, there are so many good men, hardworking men.
	Problem that women, sorry, I'm not saying it in the bed, but the majority of women today, that they are low-level women, they aim into a high-level man and they expect everything.
	I want them to earn like this, I want them to do like that, I want him to look a certain way.
	You need to aim to men that are in your level and not be above your level, and then you won't be frustrated.
	How do you measure?
	How do you measure your level?
	Men that doesn't have a high body count, men that, sorry, like if it's your level, you go with men because honestly, high-level men, high-level men would never date a girl.
	Disease is wrong.
	They're going to have sex with six multiple guys at a time.
	That's not what a high-level male wants.
	Yeah, but it's a gamble.
	You guys just went after sex together.
	I thought we were going to talk about like personality and intellect.
	But that's your personality.
	I want you to do that.
	Given $200.
	No, Giovanni, thank you.
	I can't find a good man.
	Literally means I'm not good enough to attract a good man.
	The cognitive dissonance is insane.
	If you're surrounded by bad men, it's because you're low-level yourself.
	One thing, oh, Giovanni, try this.
	So it doesn't pronounce your name Giovannik.
	Put a dash between the end of Giovanni and the C. Just put a dash.
	It'll change the pronunciation.
	It should.
	Anyways, just thank you for the TTS man.
	Really appreciate it.
	It was also crazy.
	I let it, just a funny story.
	I let a guy drive my car.
	And like, it was fine.
	I let a man drive my car.
	And like, I sat, I stood at my door and he walked around the other side.
	Like, I gave him the keys and he walked around the other side.
	And I just stood at my door.
	And I was just like, direct eye contact.
	And he was all like, get in the car.
	What are you doing?
	And I just like.
	Hello?
	And I was like, he never drove my car again.
	Never touched my car.
	Facts.
	Bro.
	So bad.
	I was like, God, I was like, I don't know.
	I was like, every man in my life opens my door, but I'm a very independent person.
	You shouldn't even have to ask.
	It's out of respect, in my opinion.
	You can be independent, but still one control.
	That's a rubber beam.
	But wait, don't you guys believe in equality?
	No, I don't.
	I don't.
	Wait, do you believe in equality?
	I don't.
	No.
	You don't believe in equality?
	Do you believe in equality?
	It depends on what the metric is.
	Do you believe in equality?
	I thought we were for equality.
	I'm so good at it.
	Do you believe in equality?
	Why would you want equality?
	Do you believe in equality?
	Why should a guy open the door for you?
	How do you reconcile it?
	Right.
	Because, so I feel like if we're doing equality based on like equal amounts of give, then like that's just that's not how the world works.
	The way that relationships are supposed to be equal is that men bring certain things to a relationship, women bring certain things to a relationship, and it makes a whole.
	Like all those things together come together and make a whole.
	Everybody provides something different to the relationship, and that's like the equality.
	You don't want a partner that's doing everything in the relationship and then another partner that's doing nothing in the relationship.
	You need two partners that are both doing different things.
	Okay, question with the equality thing, because I don't understand it, to be honest, which is why I can't say I want equality.
	But I always feel like when I hear like the equal thing, I feel like it's more about you guys having equal jobs and like equal pay and being treated equally.
	I didn't know that it was more about equal in a relationship.
	Because a lot of women, there's also women that are gay that want equal equality for men, too.
	But separately, men and women can never be equal.
	Like what is the equal thing?
	Like is it just relationships?
	Men and women ask you a question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So will you follow a man's lead?
	By the way, trained service dog.
	Trained service dog, by the way.
	Very well-trained dog.
	One of the best.
	Men and women and men are equal.
	It got emotional support animal service animal.
	The best training.
	Thank God.
	Can I say something?
	Hold on.
	So, will you, like, if a man tells you to do something, will you do it?
	Like, will you be submissive?
	If I trust him and, like, we're in a relationship, yes.
	In the past, like, I feel like I've had troubles with that, like, kind of letting a man oh, letting a man assert himself.
	If a man is leading and we're in a relationship that's equal and we trust each other, then equal.
	I thought it wasn't equal.
	Like, if we're in a relationship where I'm with him, he's with me, we're with nobody else, we live together, we're like building a relationship and we're meeting each other halfway.
	It doesn't have to just be finances, like, we meet each other halfway with, like, our, like, I listen to you.
	Wait, you meet guys halfway for finances?
	No, I don't.
	No, I don't think I've ever been with a man that hasn't paid all my bills, but that's another thing.
	Well, that's not equal.
	No, no, no, that's not equal, but I'm saying, like, emotionally equal.
	Like, we meet each other.
	Like, if I'm with a man and he meets my intellect at the same level, and you get what I'm saying?
	Like, if we share the same, if we're compatible and we love each other, F yeah, like, he's gonna, I'm submissive anyway in relationships.
	So for me, it's like, yeah, definitely.
	All right.
	Can I say something to that?
	Quick, if you can.
	Okay, first of all, there's no such a thing as equality between men and women.
	Men cannot have children.
	Men can.
	Sorry, they can't have children.
	I don't know if I don't think there's no such thing as equality.
	Wait, let me finish my thing.
	Men cannot get pregnant and have children.
	Men can have children until they're 60 or 70 and get a younger woman.
	So women have 40 years to utilize their youth and beauty and brain in order to build something for the future that brings them a completely different value.
	The problem today in the world, that women try to compete with men, be like a man, be equal to a man, and they forget about it and don't realize it.
	And the problem when they wake up, it's way too late.
	They pass their prime, they lost all their value, and then they got miserable and go take a Xanax and come here and talking shit.
	Okay, I get no, I get what you're saying because no, I don't believe in the equal thing.
	Like I said, I let men take care of me.
	But what I do agree with, I don't agree with, I feel like sometimes the whole like the masculine, feminine thing in relationships is like the back and forth.
	I feel like sometimes it's okay for the woman to lead, and I feel like sometimes it's okay for the man to lead.
	Like it just depends on the relationship.
	Like if you guys are really meeting each other halfway in a relationship and you trust each other, my ex, like sometimes like we'd be at a restaurant and he like they'd mess up our order and he wouldn't talk.
	He'd be like, babe, like you tell him off.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like little stuff like that.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like just meeting each other halfway.
	Wait, your boyfriend asked, he would ask you if they got the order wrong that you should.
	He'd be like, tell him, you tell, like, because I would always talk to them and we don't, they'd fix it.
	Like, my ex wasn't really good with like.
	You had better negotiations.
	Yeah, like, he wasn't good at the negotiations.
	It's just like, oh, hey, excuse me, I think that's what I'm saying.
	Yeah, but that's because it comes so much.
	No, Desiree.
	Shut up.
	Desiree.
	You got to stop fucking interrupting.
	Are you.
	You okay?
	Well, I am psycho.
	No.
	Bro.
	You got to learn to like.
	Holy shit.
	I said three words.
	I said three words.
	And she can't fucking help herself.
	Holy shit.
	How did you make it to 38?
	How, dude?
	White privilege, to be honest.
	White privilege.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	Honestly.
	Have you ever been jumped or beaten up for saying stuff like that?
	No, I don't because I have hot white privilege.
	So people are actually very nice to me.
	Usually, I mean, it's just facts of the matter.
	How do you help Maggie's motherfucker?
	That's why she talked to me.
	I didn't have to play by the woman.
	Okay, society I'm talking about.
	Okay, let him talk.
	I'm trying to listen.
	I'm honestly trying to roll.
	I'm just going to move it on, but I think I was just going to say.
	That's a good point.
	No, it's like, I think I was just going to say if there's something wrong with the order, you can just be like, oh, hey, excuse me, I think there's something wrong.
	No, it doesn't always go like that.
	Sometimes we get some pushback.
	From the waiter?
	Yeah.
	You just say, oh, I didn't want ketchup on my burger.
	Can no, sometimes they're like, wait, you didn't say no.
	didn't say no ketchup or it's always like a thing.
	I would never ask my girlfriend to like, can you please talk to the waitress for me?
	I can't like that.
	Oh, I can't have social interactions.
	I don't think it was in that manner.
	Yeah, like, it was like, you got this, babe.
	Like, Riley, can you?
	Yeah, like, Riley.
	Can you please talk to the waitress for me?
	Problem with men right here.
	This is the problem with women right here.
	You can't take a back seat if a woman is.
	A backseat.
	No, even if I was with a male friend, I would be like, oh, Connor, can you please?
	I'm so scared to talk to the waiter.
	Anyone's either talking to me?
	Some people are afraid of confrontation.
	It's not a confrontation.
	It's just like conflict.
	It's not a conflict.
	It's just like, oh, hey, I think there's a mix-up.
	If it's that big of a deal, honestly, if it's a minor thing, I'm just going to be like, fuck it, whatever.
	If it's a big deal, they fucked up the thing.
	I'll just be like, men got feelings too.
	They got feelings too.
	What?
	Like, they can't just feel like a bad thing.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	Yeah, that's what you did.
	You were just like, boo, This is just like one to one.
	Hold on.
	Wait, okay.
	So you're saying, let's say you go to a restaurant where you have to go to the counter to order.
	And if your boyfriend was like, babe, can you order for me?
	I'm scared to order.
	That is not how he does it.
	That is exactly what you're talking about.
	No, that's not it.
	Like, it's just, he's like, did they mess?
	They didn't bring us the thing or they didn't put this here.
	They didn't put the sauce.
	They forgot the wings?
	Yeah.
	Or like, if they forget the sauce.
	They would just be like, oh, excuse me.
	I think it's a little bit more.
	And it won't be like looking at the meal if the meal is trash.
	Like, because we, we're like foodie, so we spend a lot of money on restaurants.
	So when you go and you get bad service, it's like, he doesn't want to be the angry, but he just doesn't want to be the angry black man going off on like the waiter.
	So then I have a softer voice.
	Black woman.
	Like, but to them, they don't see it as angry black woman.
	They just see somebody speaking to them.
	Yeah.
	So he feels like if a black man makes a complaint about yourself, but you got to understand he's like, that's what I'm saying.
	The black experience is so intricate because like to black men.
	I feel like it's not going to feel right now.
	Because it's like, it's a thing within the black community.
	You don't want to over talk or you don't want to sound assertive because people might think that's a good thing.
	Is it a personal personality?
	I haven't ever been in any place, so I cannot judge it.
	It is a right if they fuck up your wing order, you're going to be like, oh, babe.
	Yeah, when I was in our relationship.
	Babe, can you talk to them for me?
	No, not like that.
	It's just like, I don't know.
	You just don't want to come off like that.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's really terrible.
	Shit.
	Yeah.
	You know what?
	This is why actually when I go to restaurants and I'm, you know, if like I'm out of the restaurant with a girl, I don't want to come off as an angry white man because of all my white male privilege.
	So any, I actually instruct.
	Why are you doing this?
	I tell my girlfriend, like my girlfriend, if I'm, you know, whatever, I'll be like, hey, can you just, can you just order for me?
	Can you just order for me?
	Do you have a girlfriend?
	I cannot confirm or deny.
	Why can't you confirm or deny?
	I am Bossia, right?
	Do you guys know if he has a girlfriend?
	Desiree.
	He's too old.
	I'm a virgin.
	Thanks for having me.
	Oh, 35-year-old virtual.
	I'm a virgin.
	Will you be my first?
	Just kidding.
	No.
	He's in love with Desiree.
	So he just doesn't love the podcast.
	So, anyways, never kiss and tell.
	Desmond.
	Oh, I kiss and tell.
	That is what happened with him.
	Nothing, bro.
	Nothing.
	I want to know what happened with him.
	I'm curious.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Is that a confirmation?
	Literally nothing.
	Nothing.
	I don't know why, bro.
	People.
	Even Andrew was like, oh, so Brian, you're going to hit it?
	I'm like, fuck no, I'm not.
	Okay.
	Anyways, damn, I'm so clean.
	Not sorry.
	I don't know.
	Shit.
	You can only Brian has his brother.
	Gross.
	I have a question for the girls, too.
	I do got to move it on.
	I got to move it on.
	I'm sorry.
	No, well, we can get to it, but I do want to ask the girls that question about if you start liking a guy, but he flirts heavy with every single girl.
	Oh, that's it.
	Like, does it not make you not interested?
	And if you're watching this, it makes me.
	It's a bad guy.
	You don't want to be with a guy like that.
	No, if you really like someone, I hate the guys that hit on you, and when you deny them, they try to go talk to your friends after.
	Like, do you think we're stupid?
	Like, they're going to tell us about it.
	Like, are you insane to go hit on?
	Like, that's insane.
	Sometimes I hate it.
	Okay, so let's do here.
	Hold on.
	Okay, we will do: would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear?
	And the scenario.
	What?
	Random man or random bear.
	Now, the scenario here is there's no motivations as to why the man's in the forest.
	So you can't be like, well, why is he there?
	It's just you get randomly dropped.
	He gets randomly dropped.
	You get randomly dropped.
	Random man, random bear.
	Starting with Shirley.
	Man.
	Okay.
	Desiree?
	Man.
	I have a question about: is it like a forest as in it can't be a polar bear?
	Or is it controlled?
	Sure, it can be a polar bear.
	It can be.
	So it's random bear.
	Then man.
	Okay.
	Man.
	Bear.
	Okay.
	Of course, man.
	There are protectors.
	I love men.
	Men?
	Man.
	Man.
	Why did you say bear?
	Because you want to know?
	Do you want to try something new?
	I would love to hear this.
	Do you want to try something new?
	Go ahead.
	Maybe, but honestly, I think it's just because, like, what if I can, like, tame the bear?
	Like, what if I can, like, actually teach it to do like what I need it to do?
	Get the Russian.
	Get the Russian race.
	Get the Russian bear.
	You guys, I was on this show, like, maybe, what, two weeks ago or something?
	And there was a Russian girl on here that's not racist.
	Like, that's what, like, and she was saying that she would tame bears.
	She was saying that she would, like, pet bears, cuddle with them in Russia.
	Yeah, I mean, bears, bears aren't like actually, but she went to the extent of saying she would rather go to a bear cave with a mama and a papa bear and cubs than go to a frat house and ask for directions.
	She's crazy.
	That is that.
	That's crazy.
	It was like a 30-minute conversation.
	So why bear?
	Yeah, why bear?
	Like, I can tame it.
	Like, I can tell it what.
	You cannot tame a bear.
	It's a wild bear.
	Yeah.
	What if I have skills that you don't know?
	Do you have skills?
	Yeah, tell me about your bear.
	Tell me about your bear taming skills.
	Go ahead.
	Let's just not discuss that.
	What if I do have skills and you don't even know about them?
	What if I do know how to do that?
	Do you?
	Maybe.
	Do you?
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	She literally took the bear.
	She's standing on the table.
	I swear.
	What if it can find me for you?
	I mean, you can learn anything on YouTube these days.
	So it's not.
	It's not in Bob.
	YouTube it for sure.
	But there's those survival shows.
	I mean, remember?
	Like, as any survivalist, I think they would rather pick a man than a bear.
	I mean, why are they on there telling me how America has to be?
	Have anybody in this room actually come face to face with a bear before?
	No.
	No.
	I have like several times in my life.
	And you chose a man.
	And I chose a man reluctantly, but like bears aren't really that aggressive.
	Like genuinely.
	They're really not like inherently aggressive.
	They only become aggressive when you're like threatening them or in their territory or whatever.
	Okay.
	But I do think it's like more likely that the man's probably not going to harm you than the bear would harm you.
	But like I don't think, I don't think it's like that crazy of a leap for people to say bear over man because bears alive.
	It's insane.
	Bears really aren't that scary.
	And all of you guys can like say, oh my god, bears are so scary.
	But like have you, none of you guys have come across a bear in the woods.
	Have you come across a bear in the woods like that?
	But bears are more unpredictable than being dropped in the woods with Ed Gear.
	Right.
	Like it would happen.
	No.
	Like if I had to defend myself, I would want to defend myself against a man.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	The odds of you being dropped in the woods with a bear and it eating you is like this, you know, much higher than being with a man who ends up being Ed Gein, who's going to eat you.
	Right.
	He's not going to.
	I mean, I don't know if you're going to chew down the bottom of the body.
	I'm just saying, I'm just going to have to do that and remarks.
	But for the last 45 minutes, you would have screeched into the mic after every remark.
	You were only annoyed you were getting less attention.
	Oh boy.
	Yeah.
	They aged you.
	Yo, Giovanni, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Barrow.
	Thank you.
	What were you guys talking about?
	The bear in a man that she's come across a bear.
	I go camping a lot.
	I'm going camping tomorrow, actually.
	Oh, what's this thing?
	The spider's just like, eh.
	Wow, that was fun.
	That was not a fighty-fighty sentence.
	Um, okay.
	So why the bear?
	Like the actual real reason?
	I gave you it.
	Because you could tame the bear.
	You can't tame the bear.
	No, but like, why not the man?
	Like, what scares you from being in the woods with the man?
	It's not that I'm like scared of being like not being with a man.
	It's just more of like, why not?
	Like, in my head, it was honestly like the question.
	Like, you know what?
	Like, why not?
	Like, why not be with the bear?
	I've seen many bears.
	I've had many bears.
	It's not that freaking serious.
	I was like, who could give it a freaking try?
	Like, why not?
	Why not be with the freaking bear?
	Everybody was picking the man.
	Why, yes.
	Live a little.
	People live a little.
	So why don't you?
	Oh, I'm not going to lie.
	I'm going in the woods with y'all.
	You're going to probably walk up to the dude.
	So do you think that there's a greater risk of being attacked by the man as compared to the bear?
	Oh, damn.
	I'm going to contradict myself here.
	No.
	No.
	I feel like there is a.
	Oh, damn it.
	There is a greater risk being with the bear.
	You're just an adrenaline junkie.
	It's fine.
	What?
	You're just an adrenaline junkie.
	You don't have to label everything.
	I don't know.
	I don't think that's something you do.
	You label everything.
	Well, because I find that it helps people.
	No, it doesn't.
	No, it doesn't.
	It doesn't.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't think labeling it was like right.
	Like, okay, like, if I did want to pick the bear, like, okay, whatever.
	Who cares?
	The point I was trying to make is you don't have to justify it.
	We just like what we like.
	We want to try what we want to try.
	Who cares?
	You want to try with the bear?
	Okay.
	She does.
	I'm not seeing information.
	She was giving her permission because everybody was attacking her.
	She's going to ask permission to be a bear.
	We were not attacking her.
	Did you feel attacked?
	I don't think so.
	Everybody attacked you, right?
	I was just going to talk about it.
	We're joking with her.
	Yeah, you have to be crazy.
	This is what a conversation is.
	It's not attacking.
	She doesn't know how to have a normal conversation.
	Oh, I know.
	Period.
	All right, next question.
	Next question.
	Somebody sent me a DM.
	They wanted me to ask this: Are men or women physically stronger?
	Men.
	Men.
	Starting with women.
	Men.
	Men physically.
	Most men physically, yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Most of them.
	Most men.
	Men are stronger.
	Men are stronger.
	Okay, fact.
	Who is the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	Oh.
	Starting with Chirlie.
	Go ahead, Charlie.
	You did have.
	Go ahead, Chirlie.
	What was the question?
	Who is the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	What is that either?
	Civil War, Second World War, First World War.
	Victim meaning what?
	Yeah.
	Let her answer.
	Aren't there more men than women in the military?
	Yes.
	So men.
	Okay.
	Desiree?
	Men.
	Vic?
	Men.
	I won't be controversial right now.
	Well, I would say in like civilian victims, probably women, but in like total victims, men.
	Oh, because like, okay.
	I don't know.
	No.
	I've never been in a war.
	You were tweeting about men.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Men.
	Obviously, men.
	Men.
	All right.
	Can you be sexist towards men?
	Yes.
	Starting with Shirley.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What does that mean to be sexist towards men?
	Having thoughts towards men, having bias against men.
	A lot of most women today are like men.
	No.
	No?
	You can't be sexist.
	Okay, like I mean, like telling them not to do something.
	Oh, they cannot do something?
	No, okay.
	So can you be can people, can men or women be sexist towards women?
	Oh no.
	No?
	Do you understand the question?
	Wait, men?
	Did you say a woman to men?
	A woman cannot be sexist to a man, you said, right?
	No, I didn't say it.
	Okay.
	Well, can you ask again the question?
	Can, sure, can women be sexist towards men?
	No.
	Yeah.
	No?
	No.
	Can men be sexist towards women?
	No.
	Wait.
	What?
	I don't think she understands.
	Do you know what sexist is?
	Anybody speaks Spanish?
	It's like a bias.
	Any Spanish speakers?
	Speak Spanish.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Translate.
	Into the mic.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, shit.
	Hold on.
	Hello?
	Hold on.
	Give me a kind of thing because damn, hold on.
	Damn, revoke your Latina card.
	Hold the fuck up.
	Don't fucking start with that fucking shit, please.
	Don't.
	Pause commentes como de que es por es que empro de que si unu cha cho te digade que oh it is crunco si fo te di quera.
	Hold on.
	The answer is yes.
	Next person, yes.
	Yes.
	Be like, you can't do that because you're a man.
	Is that a good way of saying it?
	I think so.
	It's something.
	It's something.
	What do you think about when you're like when you're like, oh, a man's being like that to a woman?
	To a woman.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	But then like a woman to a man.
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Men can't polish their nails because they're not.
	Because they're a man.
	Well, that's where they're going.
	Like doing like feminine stuff because I don't think that's sexist.
	No?
	I don't know.
	I don't think that's sexist.
	I mean, that's what it was.
	Like, the guys are starting.
	It's a trend.
	Like, even heterosexual men are not.
	Well, but I hear a woman saying that they're not makeup even, and they're not gay or anything.
	They just are entitled.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You gotta be a vibe and you're gonna be a little bit more like that.
	That's like the gender identity.
	You already know where I think that's the gender thing.
	There's no wrong.
	Male that wear makeup.
	Oh my God, it's totally gay.
	What about the actress?
	I mean, an actor.
	I know that's not a matter of fact.
	That's the majority of men in the country.
	That's not the men that you're going to date on.
	There's a lot of influencers now, though.
	You want to follow the cattle or you want to be individual.
	I'm sure, like, Trump and all these political figures are getting a little bit of makeup put on.
	Yeah, on TV, but everyday life, you want to date a man that before he goes out, you wear makeup.
	Is that a trap?
	And that's a rule.
	Not just that it's not a trap.
	It's a turnover.
	But what do you think?
	Like when you say it's gay?
	You got to talk about that stuff.
	But what do you say?
	Men, listen, men that would take care of you and treat you like a queen and do everything for you and be like a real, real man, caveman.
	It's not a man that would dare to wear makeup.
	So I had friends with benefits in the past.
	That was.
	You mean when he had benefits, you don't have benefits if he's gay?
	It was benefits because he would pay for everything for me.
	He wouldn't give me money for things that I wanted.
	So it's not benefits.
	You're just his side hoe for him.
	Listen, when a guy has $4 million.
	Hold on, listen.
	Okay.
	He's a bisexual man.
	Wears makeup sometimes.
	Bisexual makeup.
	And he wasn't with modern.
	You said the reality.
	You're saying I have sex with him?
	And you're saying that these types of men aren't providers, but they're not providers.
	I have a real life example of being a provider.
	Listen, let me educate you.
	That's what she thinks is a provider.
	Let me educate you.
	This man, not just that he's not a provider.
	This man, okay, is a man that literally uses you as a sexual tool.
	He's pervert.
	He's a twisted.
	No, he's a twisted and he's a pervert.
	If he wears makeup, he's bisexual, and he gives you money for having sex with him.
	You're just a little hoe that he keeps on the sides to satisfy these sexual needs.
	Who do you think is that?
	He's not a provider.
	He's not paying your, he's not living with you.
	He doesn't marry a guy where he doesn't.
	He's automatically gay.
	Oh, my God.
	But it's just not.
	Who do you think is getting more out of this relationship?
	You don't want to be with me.
	You don't want to be with a man.
	I have a kid that his feminine mentality controls.
	You don't want to be with a man that his feminine mentality control more than his masculine mentality.
	Because if you want to be with a man that have feminine mentality, you might as well date a woman.
	You don't need a man for that.
	It's just a very cultural thing.
	My makeup with men has gone back historically.
	They used to wear the white powder on their face and the wigs because men care about cultural appearances.
	It's not true.
	It's not like that.
	Whether it's makeup or it's a certain style of dress, a certain haircut, a certain beard or no beard, men keep up with us no longer.
	Right.
	And there's all now where we live in a very diverse culture.
	It's not diversity.
	Just in America, most people are.
	I have a question going back to the original point, but who do you think is getting more out of a purely sexual relationship where the man is providing financially for the woman?
	Do you think the man is getting more out of the relationship or the woman's getting more out of the relationship?
	The man.
	I think the man.
	Of course the man.
	Of course, I'll explain.
	Because a man, listen, when a guy have, I wanted to tell that before, let's say a guy have $10 million, right?
	For him to spend on a girl $10,000 or $5,000 and keep her as a side hoe, it's no problem.
	The girl, the desperate, that for her $10,000, it's a lot of money, she thinks she put her value, like, oh my God, he spent $10,000 on me.
	Oh, my God.
	I must have been something special.
	But when a guy have so much money, for him, it's nothing.
	It's penis.
	And he can take you.
	He can take her.
	He can take another guy.
	You're just a tool.
	Do you think this girl isn't benefiting at all from that financial?
	Not at all.
	And I'll tell you why.
	Why?
	Because when a girl, I'll explain.
	Because let's say you got used to have a guy that spent a lot of money on you for sex, right?
	When you get a little bit older, you're not going to have this market of men anymore.
	They want to spend money on you because you lost your youth.
	Then you're going to stand there and you have no other qualification and you're going to feel so depressed and so bad because the only trade you had is your youth to sell your youth and your body.
	And then you're going to wake up when you're used to the good life.
	You used to buy the Chanel bags and to go to vacation and to take pictures on private jets or whatever.
	They're going to replace you for a younger model.
	And why are you going to have nothing?
	So do you think men and women have sexual inequality?
	Of course.
	And why?
	But we have to accept it as women.
	But why?
	The majority of the problem of women, you want to know what it is?
	Women are so stubborn, they don't want to accept reality.
	Women is the liar species on the planet.
	What's the reality?
	And I'll explain, not in a bad way.
	Listen to me.
	Women cheat with their makeup, with their nails, with their plastic surgery.
	I'm one of them, so I know that.
	I'm not going to be a hypocrite, right?
	I make myself look more beautiful, I enhance my beauty.
	It's not necessarily really bad because it's happened since the Bible time.
	But with that being said, because women have that ability to lie and manipulate more to attract certain men into their life, they're more in a problem when they get older.
	Men give it to you as it is.
	Either I'm successful having money, I can, you know, change multiple women, or whatever it is he's giving you, he's given it to you straight, right?
	You know, if you're just a booty coal, you're not stupid, or you know, if he wants you for a serious relationship.
	Women, okay, the opposite of thinking, women say, oh my god, I got a sugar daddy.
	He spent so much money on me.
	He bought me a Chanel bag.
	He took me on his plane.
	But they don't understand that just one of a whole trail of women that they can buy with money.
	I have a question.
	But you didn't.
	Okay.
	I don't mean to be rude.
	No, don't be.
	But your boobs are fake, right?
	Yes.
	So do you feel like you're attracting a certain type of man with that?
	Yes, but I'll explain.
	My boobs were not always fake.
	I had bigger boobs like this naturally.
	My boobs were like that.
	So why did you?
	When I had my son, when I had my son, my boob fell to my knees, so I had to cut them and lift them.
	So I have no choice.
	My whole life, my boobs were like this, if you want to know.
	And I don't care.
	It doesn't contradict.
	I can look sexy.
	I could have big boobs.
	I could be sexual, right?
	But it's how I value myself.
	It doesn't mean if I'm sexy and I like sex and I like to dress a little bit sexy, not over the top.
	So I have to have a sugar daddy.
	I have to sell myself short.
	You could be sexy, you could be intelligent, you can be a businesswoman.
	But the most important thing to understand what is the woman is before you're bringing all this to the table.
	So you didn't answer the original question.
	No, I understand.
	So you said that men and women aren't sexually equal.
	Why do you think that?
	Because I told you this before, you didn't understand.
	Okay.
	Because the woman value is in the first 40 years of her life, right?
	So, see, you have to have none of ourselves.
	Wait, let me explain.
	From age zero until you.
	What?
	Say, I want to hear what you have to say.
	40?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And I'll explain why.
	40.
	Yes.
	I'm not talking about 20 years ago, 40 years ago.
	Now, in our days, the prime of a woman, it's her 40s, right?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Because let me tell you something.
	In America, listen, I see this in a lot of podcasts, Brian.
	Listen to me.
	I see it in a lot of podcasts that you guys are very extreme.
	They said, no, a prime of a woman is 24.
	I'm not talking about a woman that needs to get married when she's 24 and have kids.
	I understand what you're saying.
	That's not what I'm talking about.
	A woman that had kids and became to her 40 and got divorced and want to date men, she still has a little bit of time when she's in her 40s.
	If she is a young woman like her and she needs to get married and have kids, she until 24, 25, 26, the most.
	26 the most, right?
	But what I'm trying to say in general, that the woman, her trade, it's her youth.
	And when you pass the prime of the youth, it's affect how you bring kids, it's affects how societies you affect how many ones wants to date you and be with you.
	And if you don't have an extra value, like your brain, who you are as a person, if you're a nurturing woman, if you have patience, if you know how to treat a man, you lose your value completely.
	I'm not saying that women in our 50 and a 40 and are 60 don't have value.
	They have a different value.
	They trade their value with different things.
	Obviously, they're not going to look for a young man.
	I see a lot of women in my age that we go out and say, oh my God, I'm only into young guys.
	Young guys love me.
	They're amazing.
	I'm like, are you stupid?
	What do they want to do with you?
	They only want to put you in bed and use you and have the experience by having sex with older men, with older women.
	And they're going to tell their friends, oh, look, I'm banging this 50-year-old or I'm banging this 40-year-old, right?
	Because women, oblivious to the truth, they want to tell themselves because you look good.
	It's like I would go out and I would say, oh, I'm sexy.
	I'm looking good.
	I'm going to date young guys.
	I'm not going to do it, first of all, because I have a man in the house.
	You wouldn't.
	I would not do it.
	What?
	You wouldn't date me?
	No, because you're young.
	I think you're attractive, but I think you're young.
	But you're drought.
	But I think your producer is way more attractive.
	Sorry.
	Jacob Alorty.
	I agree.
	But he could be my Jacob Alorty.
	He could be my son, so I don't even look at him.
	He's young.
	Next to you.
	Wait, I'm sorry.
	I do have to move it on.
	Sorry.
	Do got to move it on.
	We have a couple more things we got to cover here.
	So going back to some of these questions.
	Can you be racist towards white people?
	Yes.
	Surely.
	Of course.
	Desiree.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yes.
	Sometimes.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	I feel like racism is one of those things where it only works if it affects the demographic of people that you're being racist to.
	And I say that when I mean that, I say if I'm going to work a job, I don't have the power to stop somebody from a white girl from getting a job.
	I don't have the power to stop a white girl from getting into college.
	Don't use that affirmative action shit because I don't even know what I've never even seen affirmative action and how it helps people of color.
	I think that's just some little going around the table on this.
	Yeah.
	What was the question on?
	Can you be racist towards white people?
	Of course, but can I answer to what you just said?
	Let me get everybody to answer this first and then I'll think about it.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes, definitely.
	I'll give you 30 seconds to give an answer, but then I'm going to move it on.
	I want to say something.
	I think in the African-American society and black society in general, in America, I'm not talking outside of America.
	A lot of the people, what I've seen, they go against each other.
	They don't help each other.
	They don't elevate each other.
	They caddy and bet towards one another.
	They don't push each other.
	Like everything is about money and how much they get.
	And I've seen it and I said, how this society could grow if everybody against each other.
	Like if you see the Jewish society or the Arab Muslim society, everybody's Spanish, exactly.
	They support each other.
	When you see a black homeless on the street, they just want to take money.
	You give them $5.
	Oh, only $5.
	And when you see a Mexican, they would never stand and ask for money.
	They would give you flowers.
	Spanish people.
	I've always had my back, by the way.
	And I think you guys sabotage yourself.
	And the most intelligent people that I met here were from the African-American community.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	And I'm like, that's too bad that you guys don't support each other.
	That's all.
	Well, we're done with it.
	Yeah, I'm going to move it on.
	I do want to get onto the topic of body count.
	So earlier on in the show, I think, Riley, you had, you said something about this topic vaguely.
	Like, why is it that women get judged for this?
	Or I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you had a pretty strong position on it.
	Yeah.
	I hate it.
	I hate it.
	I hate, hate what?
	I just hate the whole body count thing.
	Like, I don't.
	They don't run it up.
	Exactly.
	Let's let her talk.
	I hate body count because I feel like you don't even really know a person.
	Like, just somebody telling you that they've been with, like, if I date a guy and he tells me he's been with a hundred, I don't even ask.
	I tell you, I wanna say, hold on.
	Let her finish.
	Go ahead.
	I feel like a lot of times the whole body count thing, it's like it doesn't even really exist unless you allow it to exist.
	Like, I'm not gonna know how many people you've actually been with.
	If you're being 100% honest with me and I ask you the question, okay.
	But then it's like, okay, now what?
	Like, do I have?
	I don't really feel like it's my place to judge somebody for who they were with or what their experience is in life.
	I'm not going to sit here and diminish a person or a man that's like, oh, well, I've been with 150 women, but that was a part of my past and they're trying to work towards their future.
	How can a person evolve and grow if we're going to constantly judge them for their body count?
	Can I, well, the reason for me would be hindering if you're going to date somebody and has nothing to do with judging them, but maybe this would show you an inside of their life how promiscuous they are, how many, you know, what kind of sexual habits they have, you know, Desiree.
	Like, it just shows you, do I want to be with someone like this?
	Because it's more of a higher risk, right?
	You're taking a higher risk.
	If you're looking for commitment and see, like, what, you know, I, what I'm asking for, I can bring to the table.
	And if someone else just has red flags, you know, high body counts like that, it's probably not for me because they're probably, you know, patterns repeat themselves.
	I do change it, but you just, I don't want to.
	I get what you're saying.
	I'm not trying to get away.
	Everything has a more sex positive outlook could think it's a red flag if the body count was too low.
	So that's a different perspective.
	It's literally.
	No, I've heard that too on the opposite side.
	If a guy just said he's a virgin, I'm like, no, exhausting.
	Like, I'm not here trying to be your mom.
	I think the whole thing about body count, I think the important thing about body count is that you and your partner have the same view on body count.
	And I think that's the only important fact about body count.
	I'd agree.
	I don't know.
	The only thing that matters is that you and your partner both agree on your views on body count.
	That's all that matters for a successful relationship.
	Like, okay.
	How many times have you dated a man and asked him like how many women and he told you the truth?
	Like, I just feel like most times when those questions come up, a lot of people are insecure about it because of the discourse about it.
	So they, yeah, because there's a stigma with it and they lie.
	And like, I don't know.
	I've never, I haven't been with that many men, so I can't necessarily say where I'm at with it because I don't think I've ever asked a guy like, how many women have you been with?
	Like, like my last relationship, I'm sure my ex, he was out there.
	But I don't think that that reflected him and like how he treated me.
	I think how he treated me was a reflection of how he felt about me or how he felt like if he respected me in a certain way.
	So I think it's a case-to-case basis.
	Like if you date a guy and you know he's been with a lot of women, but he's trying his hardest to change and he wants to have a lot of people.
	Totally.
	I think I just think it helps you get like kind of take your own perspective.
	Like you can kind of weigh the risk yourself.
	that's what i'm saying i'm like i feel like i know it's not you but oh oh Oh, my bad.
	But yeah, I just feel like it's a case-to-case thing.
	Like, it depends on you.
	Like, if you're uncomfortable with a man who's been with 150 women, I'm pretty sure a lot of us would be uncomfortable with that.
	But then if you see, like, oh, he's a nice guy, like, he should try to be this and this.
	So, yeah.
	TTS is the lady donated $100.
	Redhead heretic is spitting.
	Obviously, an ex-addict can find redemption and forgiveness, but I rather date a non-ex-addict.
	Same way who can find redemption and forgiveness, but it's not preferred.
	Yo, Giovanni, thank you for the TTS.
	Appreciate it, yeah.
	That's awesome.
	So just going around the table really quick.
	Do you think that men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count?
	Wait, it didn't come to me.
	I wanted to also.
	Eula sees the pagan donated $200.
	Thank you, Pagan.
	Appreciate it.
	Remember the old PSA?
	Your sleeping with ever person that person has slept with, and it's true promiscuously leads to a greater chance of STDs.
	Exactly.
	But I want to answer the question.
	Which question?
	Tell us you're asking them.
	Well, I'm going around the table right now on this.
	So.
	What was the question?
	But you've started.
	Do you think a man is insecure if he asks you about body count?
	Well, do you think a man's not asks?
	Do you think a man is insecure if he cares about your body count or a woman's body count?
	I don't think he necessarily is insecure.
	He could just be curious.
	Yeah.
	So let's say, for example, he wouldn't date you or another woman because of her body count.
	Insecure?
	I don't think it's insecure.
	It's a preference.
	Would you think it would be immature or wrong for a man to make that determination?
	I mean, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
	Okay, Desiree, what about you?
	I agree.
	I totally agree.
	Everybody has their prerogative.
	Wait, instead of just so just you can state your own position instead of just saying agree.
	Well, I was going to say agree, but my position is that it's not inherently insecure for somebody to care about body count.
	Again, I'm going to reiterate that I think the only thing that matters about body count is that you and your partner agree on your views on body count.
	Okay.
	No, I don't think he's insecure, like I said.
	Is it immature?
	Is it kind of wrong?
	I don't think it's wrong.
	It's just like if you like girls that wear don't work, like there's a thing where some men that are professional don't like women that wear fake nails.
	Like it's like a preference.
	Like, I don't think I feel like if you're not comfortable with dating a girl who's been with 150 men, like that's okay.
	If you've only been with two women, yeah, you're gonna be like, nah, that's not my style.
	Go ahead.
	I don't think it's insecure.
	I just think it's a preference also.
	Yeah.
	I think men and women completely different because when a man have sex, he goes inside the woman and take it out of himself and forget about it.
	When a woman has sex with him, and I know you're gonna laugh, but it's a scientific fact.
	When a woman has sex with a man, whatever the men live inside her, it stays in her DNA forever and changes her, changes her emotion, changes her feeling.
	It's a scientific fact.
	So it changes her completely.
	So if a woman has been with 100 men, along the road, 10 years later, 20 years later, psychologically, she's not going to be balanced because of all the men she's been with.
	So of course it's matter.
	Because men completely different from women.
	Men can sleep with a woman and he completely don't have feelings.
	He has sex, he's done, he's taking it out and he's going about his way.
	Woman have sex with a man, she starts thinking, he's going to call me, I like him, I'm attracted to him, unless she's working in the prostitution business and she sees him as a dollar.
	Completely different thing.
	Okay, your thoughts?
	No, I don't think it's insecure.
	Not immature.
	I don't think it's insecure.
	I think it's preferable.
	Value how you value yourself and your partner.
	Yeah.
	I don't think it's insecure.
	I would prefer a guy to not want me to have a high body count.
	So.
	Marry my son.
	If body count doesn't matter, if body count doesn't matter, what's your body count, starting with Desiree?
	Well, I've been sexually active for 25 years.
	So honestly, I'm not 100% sure, but I would say probably around 50.
	I don't believe you.
	Yeah, I was just saying.
	She's been with 50 men?
	You think it's more?
	Maybe 50,000.
	Okay.
	Damn, all right.
	Shirley?
	I want to say less than 10.
	Okay.
	22.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, she knew.
	Wait.
	Hold on.
	You said you want to say less than 10.
	I think it's less than 10.
	Well, I want to say I'm a billionaire, but it's not true.
	I think, yeah, it's less than 10.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	22.
	22?
	I think 30.
	30?
	Yeah.
	Two out of respect to my son, because he's watching the show.
	I'm not gonna answer that, but I only say that I haven't been with a lot of men.
	Do you want to do like a range?
	I got married.
	I got married when I was 18.
	I was with the same man for 11 years.
	Then we separated, we got back.
	So I didn't have a lot of men.
	I was only in serious relationships.
	Okay.
	I don't have a specific number, but I would say more than 25.
	More than 35?
	25.
	Yeah, but you think it's more than 35?
	Yeah.
	I wouldn't five, I have to count and have to like.
	Yeah, let's count.
	We've got time for you, okay?
	Yeah, I was counting on that.
	Jose, Mario, Ahan.
	It was a little bit song.
	I don't know.
	My neighborhood.
	I'm fucking at this.
	It's funny.
	No, yeah.
	I was like, Jan, say it more than more than like more, like 110.
	100?
	Are you like a runner-up for me?
	Come on, are you close?
	More than you, more than me?
	Yeah, more than you, Jessie.
	I was married for a long time, so selectively.
	Yeah.
	So everyone.
	Wait, do you think more than 200?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Like I wouldn't say more than 115.
	How old are you?
	More than 100.
	26, 27.
	There's not like birth certificates in El Salvador.
	No, no.
	Differently high.
	No, not at all.
	There's not a birth certificate.
	So like 150 or no, no, I would say like 100.
	There's not more than 110.
	I think you said 100.
	That's no, 115.
	115 plus.
	Okay, all right.
	Crazy.
	I'm not going to say it on the internet, but it's single digits.
	Less than five.
	Less than three.
	She's really young.
	She's 19.
	Oh my god.
	I mean, I mean that her daughter-in-law is.
	Less than five.
	I just assumed four that's not the same.
	This is for all of you.
	This is for all of you.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	I'm so done.
	That's not true.
	That is not true.
	I think I was rounding up.
	This is true.
	I don't know.
	That's not hard.
	That's the rule.
	Multiply by three.
	I got three kids.
	You're not coming out of the woodworks anymore.
	Me too.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, let's Desiree.
	Desiree.
	You previously, you said you have personas.
	I do.
	Like Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers.
	What does that mean persona?
	And hold on, I'll say it.
	You said it's a thing for us genius black ghetto slave souls inside sexy white bodies.
	Okay.
	Briley.
	What did you hold it together?
	I just meant that there is a white privilege that comes with looking this way.
	However, I was born in a very similar family to you with the psychopath dad and getting kidnapped and the whole situation.
	So I felt that I had like extreme trauma.
	Like I literally would go try to talk to school counselors, police, counsel, everybody, friends, parents, everything.
	And it's like they just looked at this pretty little white girl who does really good in school and it was like it wasn't computing.
	Okay, this is my question.
	So I never got.
	Ghetto have to do with being black.
	Poverished, impoverished.
	Not you have white children, black.
	I was also ghetto.
	I was white first of all.
	Most black people are ghetto.
	But why do you why is black this parallel to ghetto?
	Yeah, like I'm trying to figure out my and my ideology.
	Ghetto can be in any community.
	But why?
	That's what I'm trying to understand.
	What ghetto can be in any community?
	I've seen more ghettos of white here than everybody's ghettos.
	I was born into a later family.
	I've seen white talking about white talking shit about black, but then I saw the difference between the family.
	Like the black go to church, they raise their kids really nice, and then the white were completely trashed.
	Brothers, girlfriends.
	I'm just making a huge generality.
	I understand not everybody fits into this theory.
	It's got nothing to do with it.
	I'm just making a huge generality.
	Okay.
	Excuses are so systemic racism based on my upbringing you could say.
	I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
	My trauma is an excuse for the way that you act.
	You know what I mean?
	There's always these.
	Like, I was raised in racism and trauma and this is.
	Well, you all asked me.
	But you're still made up.
	Everybody asked me why I'm running this life as a trauma just from being born.
	Literally, I have been being asked what my thought process was.
	So I was just thinking about it.
	And you have not once taken accountability the entire night.
	No, you're trying to get it.
	When do you want me to take accountability?
	When someone tells you something, you just be like, you know what, that was really wrong, or that was messed up.
	And I'm sorry.
	I don't believe there's anything wrong with it.
	I'm not going to apologize.
	There's a lot of people.
	She's a genius.
	What do you want?
	She's a genius.
	So hold on.
	Let's go back to the words.
	Let's go back to the words of the world.
	You said, you said, Desiree.
	Arguing with the genius.
	You said, Desiree.
	You said it's a thing for when it came to your different personas.
	It's a thing for us genius black ghetto slave souls inside sexy white bodies.
	And that just sounds like a bad thing.
	What the fuck does that even mean?
	She spirits inside of you.
	She's not to you?
	How did you get that?
	She wrote.
	Black instances.
	Slave souls?
	What are you thinking?
	That's the problem.
	The DNA stayed inside of you and you think you're black.
	You're a girl, but what is she talking about?
	You have too much black DNA inside of you.
	I mean, I have a fat ass.
	I always have, like, since I was 11.
	Yeah, I probably got sunlight.
	You were 11.
	Okay.
	Since you were 11!
	Oh, my God.
	I love the time when it wasn't.
	Since you were 11, all the white people didn't like me in the black.
	I can't.
	I can't.
	White guys don't like ass.
	I have to ask you about it.
	Not like not 25 years ago.
	We were 11 and 6.
	Literally, my whole family of white women were starving themselves.
	I had horrible brain disorders from the time I was like seven years old, starving my ass off.
	Yes, it was a thing.
	Starving your ass.
	And then it came back because of the fucking Kardashian.
	I'm only three years younger than you.
	Trust me.
	Like, ass was in for a minute.
	Yeah, but I didn't know that.
	The style and the culture, what I was, I believed that there was something wrong with back in 2006.
	Yes, there is.
	Damn, that's a fact.
	Right.
	I literally grew up with everybody being like worshiping me because I was a white girl with that.
	My self-consciousness.
	I was fat.
	Look at that.
	Let's vote.
	What are you talking about?
	Honestly, Brian, basically, this sex body dysmorphic disorder is a very good thing.
	Basically, the subtext of what you're saying.
	I have the women of my family getting rid of them.
	Basically, your house is sucked out.
	Basically, the subtext of what she's saying is: I've been with so many guys, so many black guys.
	I'm over.
	I'm overused myself emotionally, sexually, vaginally, whatever you want.
	Vagina words.
	Vaginally.
	Right?
	And I think you're so exhausted.
	I would not talk about it.
	Because why don't you bring in all the predators toward you when you get out of here?
	All the black men and white men and everybody when I was raised by a predator.
	I was sexually by my dad.
	So my dad raised me to be a sex worker.
	And you become the predator.
	No, I became only sex.
	I am a sex worker.
	And you know that.
	You know how you grow up.
	Why don't you change it?
	That's what it is.
	I did change it.
	I changed it to doing OnlyFans so that I completely.
	But OnlyFans don't change it.
	You're making it worse.
	No, it's not.
	Only fans.
	OnlyFans doesn't change it.
	Only fans making it worse.
	Because OnlyFans legitimize you being sexually abused over and over again.
	When you get money, you don't think you're being sexually abused, but you are.
	Because if you were not being sexually abused, you wouldn't feel comfortable.
	I'm just being sexually abused, being fucked by my husband that I couldn't stand inside my marriage.
	When I got to myself, I married children.
	Don't talk like that on top of it.
	Respect the father of your children.
	And I learned that.
	Respect the father of your children.
	No, for real.
	Let's call his father.
	He's MIA right now.
	Respect the father of your children.
	That's not ghetto.
	No, that's like.
	Riley.
	Can't you just say, I'm sorry that was a racist comment?
	And I shouldn't have said that.
	I take it.
	You know, I'd like to give you a significant story.
	I'm sorry to white women that I was.
	I forgot what I said, but I'm sorry.
	We need to stand up for what we believe in.
	That's what you said.
	I just said that.
	And you didn't say like she said.
	Oh, I didn't hear that.
	I'm just trying to understand what the slave soul says.
	I do want to point out that Desiree dropped to the hard R. What did I say?
	When?
	Desiree.
	That's the hard R. Is it hard?
	Like the academic.
	Don't say the word Desiree.
	Don't say that.
	I don't know.
	Wait, what?
	N-word.
	But you did the hard R. Don't say it.
	Don't say it.
	What is it?
	Explain to me.
	I have a potty mouth.
	I'm sorry.
	What is hard R?
	That's not CZ.
	Oh, my God.
	Don't say it.
	I'm not going to say it.
	I was going to say it.
	Hard R.
	So you can end it with a.
	I shouldn't even be explaining.
	No, there isn't.
	There's like a way to say it's not like the way she said it earlier.
	Black people say it amongst each other with the A at the end, but like slave masters used to say it with the ER.
	So we say it to each other as like a term of endearment.
	Yeah, yeah, I understand.
	I understand.
	I'm black.
	But like when people say the hard R, it's like, I get away with this shit.
	No, you don't.
	No, you don't.
	Do you think I'm going to be a little bit more?
	Because one day, three guys enough of the times that I don't give a shit.
	So our party is all part of the woman.
	Obviously, you don't give a shit about yourself.
	That's a lifestyle.
	Obviously, don't give out alcohol.
	Shut up, everybody girl.
	I'm white.
	Grew up in Latvia.
	Until I was adopted by a black woman at 13.
	I still acknowledge no part of me is black or has black experiences.
	Desiree, you're not black.
	No.
	Should I whip out the ass?
	No, just shut up.
	Please do.
	Can you stop eating your ass?
	I don't know where the fuck it came from, then, if not black.
	Okay, so hold on.
	So, wait, Desiree, do you consider yourself?
	No, I just she thinks he's pretty enough because black guys like her because she has a big butt and she don't.
	Yeah, I just find reds with the culture, though.
	Okay.
	I vibe with the guy.
	I hope you're not going to put a weakness with black guys.
	You probably shouldn't say this in a room.
	No, dude, not at all.
	This is what you're doing.
	Wait, why didn't you die?
	I mean, if you're not.
	No, you don't miss you.
	Your attitude is the most ghetto I've seen more than any black questions.
	I would always get it up if it wasn't brought to my attention to speak on.
	Just because you feel like you have some close proximity to blackness.
	Listen, do you not give you the right thing?
	Can you not just let someone talk?
	This was never supposed to be an exploited, out-in-public conversation.
	Okay?
	But didn't you pull it up?
	Can you call it?
	Is that when she said it?
	Is it like a private message?
	A private message between us that I never knew was going to get blasted out there.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Yeah, why exactly?
	Wait a minute.
	Don't say that right there.
	Because that's the problem I have.
	That's the problem I have with people like you.
	Because you say it in private and then you think, oh, well, I wasn't going to see you.
	Yeah, like I didn't mean to say it publicly.
	I said it to him in message.
	So, do you say this to your other friends that aren't black?
	Like, I'm confused.
	Do black people give you a pass to say, yes.
	Nobody gives a shit.
	Nobody gives a shit.
	Oh, my God.
	I don't know because I'm old.
	Did you guys see that white girl on TikTok that got a little viral for saying the N-word?
	And then the dog let her go.
	She said it with the A.
	And she didn't say it with the ER.
	I just got like a song.
	You're not going to be in the night lonely in some corner and some black girl's going to corner you and beat the shit out of you.
	That's what I think.
	I just feel like you, you, it's, it's not even just black people.
	Like, it's, it's just offensive to even want to say the word.
	Like, why would you, like, nobody else seems to care about the words.
	I don't get it.
	The word is so much more.
	Unfortunately, because it's fucking words.
	Inferno.
	Unfortunately, okay.
	Unfortunately, I'm putting the point.
	You're proving the point.
	You're proving the point that the majority of black women who go with black men, it's low-level white women.
	It's not high-level white women.
	They're going with black men.
	Hold on.
	And unfortunately, you are cruel.
	Am I right or am I wrong?
	No, I don't feel like that because my brother, his girlfriend, she's so sweet.
	Like, she's white.
	And, like, she's the sweetest person I've ever met.
	She doesn't treat him like, she never says the N-word.
	Like, it's never been that.
	And if they're treating him like crap or like talking crap to him, it's because he's a fuckboy.
	You know, my brother's a fuckboy.
	He deserves to be shitted on by these women because he treats them like trash.
	So it's fair, but it never comes about to where they get to say the N-word with an ER at the end.
	Like, I've never heard any of my white privileged lady.
	It's so embarrassing.
	All the other white women that I'm friends with.
	It's a waste of time.
	Never hate you because you're so dumb.
	I'm giving you my life experience.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	I've made it this far, obviously.
	It's just so.
	I'm also afraid of it.
	No, but we're having made it that she only made it.
	She's not able to say the N-word.
	I mean, where have you made it?
	Are you married?
	That's like a 19-year-old girl here.
	I literally am able to.
	This 19-year-old girl here, way smarter than you.
	I'm embarrassed for you.
	You could be her mother, and she can school you with her brain, and you're just so stupid, and you think you're a genius.
	To me, it's embarrassing for you.
	I've never met anybody who's more stupid than you in my life, and you call yourself a genius.
	This 19-year-old girl, 100 times more smart than you, and you have the audacity to sit here and try to think you school an other woman.
	Just shut your mouth.
	You're so dumb.
	Period.
	It's annoying to my issue.
	I just think it's crazy to say you've made it this far because what are the accomplishments that you have?
	Have you graduated?
	Like, college, do you have a real, you know, are you married?
	I've been married twice.
	But are you married?
	Are you in a current relationship with me?
	Why are you asking?
	Because you're saying that you made it this far.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	You're married.
	You're only be doing OnlyFans.
	Yeah, it's not that great.
	It's a lot of fucking words.
	Maybe depending on the little issues.
	Yeah, I have a graduate degree in counseling ministry.
	I just want to say that.
	Let me just finish what I'm saying.
	I know you love to talk.
	You love to talk.
	No wonder you're talking about it.
	I can never say anything to her, but I will just say it.
	When you say you made it that far, but you made it onto OnlyFans and your head in a toilet while some guy does that, that's just not making it that far.
	I'm never going to read that.
	And this is what I'm saying.
	It costs wipe off.
	You guys were so fucked up by your exact ideology.
	It kept me a fucking slave for 20 goddamn years of my life.
	And I fucking made something out of myself after I left that shit.
	So fuck you.
	What did you make?
	Wasn't that crazy how?
	I'm fucking bumped.
	Why is it that I'm you?
	I was counseling your fucking type and you're miserable.
	I never.
	I left that shit and I started having orgasms.
	And now I love myself.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Unstable.
	I will never F you.
	I will never F you.
	Baby girl.
	I will never F you.
	I will never F you.
	I will never Fro.
	I will never F you.
	I will never F you.
	It's your shit.
	Where's the book, by the way?
	No, I know.
	So, Riley, did you write a book?
	That's not a 50, that's not a $50,000 book.
	We're sorry.
	It's a self-published book.
	You have a more 50,000 books.
	No, let me just say this.
	Everybody has prejudices.
	They're going to say racist stuff.
	Everybody does it.
	It's an American thing.
	It's just like.
	And I said everyone has prejudices and they're going to say racist stuff.
	Everybody, once they get educated and they understand, okay, if this affects a group of people, you usually apologize for it.
	Or you just explain yourself.
	But you know, she screamed.
	She's going off on everybody.
	I think you should at least.
	I don't believe it's wrong.
	Okay.
	Angry.
	Just got you yelling and screaming and all of us stop talking to you.
	It's not that we're scared.
	It's not that we're not.
	You're not intimidating.
	You're not intimidating.
	Listen to her.
	It's the fact that we can't reason with you.
	Exactly.
	Your instinct.
	No, no, no.
	Your instinct is to interrupt.
	Your instinct is, oh, I'm this pretty.
	I can talk however I want.
	No, you're not.
	No one is that pretty that can talk whenever they want.
	You have to give everyone the respect that you want.
	If you want to be heard, you have to just shut up when people are talking.
	You realize what the point of the show is, right?
	It's to not make it to demonetize drama.
	No, it's to take accountability.
	That's why you're showing us everyone.
	That's not the point of the show at all.
	To get your point across, you don't have to scream at the top of your bloody lungs or always nice.
	I'm really boring.
	I thought you were going to be a little bit more.
	For God's sake, literally boring.
	It's not.
	I'm telling you.
	I'm not a truck I do.
	What do you think we're listening to?
	You're doing the same thing.
	At least I have original fucking thought, bitch.
	No, you don't.
	You're like any other cookie cutter.
	Oh, you're a cookie cutter.
	Have you ever met a fucking bitch like that?
	No, you actually were.
	Yes, you had the word.
	I know, you're actually worse.
	You're worthy.
	You're never fucking original.
	Hold on a minute.
	Screaming psycho against the one Christian at the table.
	Not a coincidence.
	The demonic manifestation is real.
	You just don't believe it.
	That's literally the same guy.
	That called you a spitting, demonic, possessed girl.
	If you're not paying attention with a fucking goal, that is literally Andrew because I know it's fucking psychology.
	That's Giovanni.
	Don't it's Andrew.
	No one's calling me.
	And actually, you are right.
	We never met anybody anytime I'm not a person who's not a good looking like you, dumb as you that think that she's a genius.
	I've never met any phenomenal like that.
	Well, the U.S. military tested me.
	So maybe you are phenomenal.
	You are phenomenal because you're so dumb that you lose your agenda.
	Yeah, that's where I got tested.
	Wait, okay, so you said that your story when it came to the military is you went in as a four.
	So I went in, I enlisted as an E4, which is basically I had my college break.
	Wait, but you said they were going to fast track you.
	I know.
	Wait, chat.
	They wanted me to go in as an officer and be a combat surgeon.
	Hold on.
	I said combat search.
	Hold on.
	So any military people who are watching, maybe you can like.
	You don't feed the pattern.
	Hold on, hold on.
	So you said that the military was going to fast track you due to your test scores?
	Because of that.
	Yes, all of that, and because I had a college degree.
	So when you go and.
	Killer Teller doesn't give a damn about college degree.
	I come from a military country, honey.
	My country, we obligated to do the army.
	Listen to me, you can't listen to me.
	I come from a country that a woman obligated to do the army for two years.
	She doesn't feed tracks.
	Wait, you don't fit the pattern of an army, and I'll tell you why.
	Because in the army, the first thing they check is your mental capacity under pressure.
	You don't have any mental capacity under pressure, so don't bullshit me, please.
	I hate to break it to you, but your type witnesses.
	You don't need it.
	You don't need to break me anything.
	You're literally waiting for me.
	You're dumb.
	You are dumb.
	You are dumb.
	You're not good looking.
	You're stupid.
	Hey, hey, be nice.
	Be nice.
	Hold on.
	Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
	Really quick.
	So, okay, Desiree.
	If there's any people in the military watching, she says that they were going to fast-track her to combat surgeons.
	CIA is.
	Because I was entering as a college graduate.
	I had multiple people after you said that who are in the military reach out to me.
	This was in 2009.
	I don't know what the fuck they're doing.
	They said that that's like impossible.
	It's not impossible.
	Somebody is right.
	You want to see Jenner is the liar why she's lying?
	Because in the army, okay, the first thing they do, they give you all these IQ tests, a lot of like psychological tests.
	Somebody who had a lot of body count obviously cannot restrain their impulse.
	And in the army, as an agent, like you said, whatever, CIA, whatever you say, you cannot restrain yourself because you cannot control yourself, not sexually, not mentally.
	So, how are they going to take you to a high-level job in the army with what?
	You can laugh all you want.
	You can maybe tell the same story for 20 years so people believe you're lie.
	Because when you tell a lie for so long, it's become the truth.
	And you are the only one that believed that.
	I literally have a military, I know.
	You are dumb, sweetie.
	You are dumb and crazy.
	That's why you're in this show because you are dumb.
	You are the entertainment show.
	Wake up.
	Okay.
	So, anybody in the military, I mean, you can DM me.
	I don't know if anybody can DM me, tell me what the whole situation is.
	But apparently, multiple people DM'd me after that and said it's basically what's that word when you're like claiming military stolen valor, sort of.
	Because they're saying, like, that's not possible.
	You're not going to fast-track to becoming a combat surgeon.
	I'm going to try to find it.
	You cannot go in this morning.
	He's current active duty USAF.
	She's lying.
	I even worked in commissioning officers.
	So, Shirley and Riley, unfortunately, have to leave.
	But unless you want to stay a little bit, you're welcome to stay.
	I have to get back.
	We'll get you back on the show some other time.
	Shirley is a pleasure having you.
	I love your dog, too.
	Do you like the can you do the Lion King?
	Like, hold up.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Are you ready?
	Ah, Savenya.
	Guys and girls, please warn the men you know not to get plasectomies.
	It's actually a scam that destroys their health even a few years.
	He has a penis.
	Doctors want to warn you.
	Oh, my gosh.
	It's a trap.
	Okay.
	Douglas Furrow, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it, dude.
	Well, yeah, Shirley, thank you.
	Unless there's anything, I don't know if there's anything else we can do with you.
	Follow us on Instagram.
	Follow us on Instagram.
	You guys were dope.
	Thank you guys for coming.
	We finished?
	The what?
	No, no, just there.
	Artificially, Riley with two weeks.
	Love you.
	I want to say something before I leave because I have to live so long.
	Well, no, you stay.
	You got to stay.
	So, can I say something?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I just want to say that I'm so proud and happy for my mentor, Bruce Cardena, that he's the bodyguard of the Kardashian.
	I love him.
	He's mentoring me, and because of him, I come a long way, and I love you.
	You're the best mentor ever.
	Thank you.
	You're dope.
	All right, Shirley, thanks for coming.
	Riley, thanks for coming.
	We're going to have Madison and Morgan go ahead.
	These are the worst times.
	I hate when that happened.
	Yeah, you guys can just.
	Bye, guys.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	Thank you for those tweets.
	I want to go to you.
	We're going to get Morgan and Madison to take the seats here.
	Nice.
	I did not mean her heel.
	All right.
	Thanks for coming, guys.
	Thank you for coming.
	All right.
	We have Morgan joining the fray.
	Welcome.
	Morgan.
	Morgan.
	So beautiful.
	Morgan.
	Morgan, why don't you introduce yourself, self for the viewers?
	I'm Morgan.
	I'm 18, and I go to Santa Barbara City College majoring in political science.
	Wow.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	And then.
	Maddie's.
	Maddie's coming.
	She'll do her thing.
	Let's see.
	Oh, going to you, Vic.
	You had a.
	I don't know if you had.
	I couldn't really tell from the TikTok.
	You've got your TikTok right.
	So do you have an issue with age gap relationships?
	Or?
	Yeah, I do think age gap relationships are pretty sus.
	Obviously, I don't think that people, you should be able to police age gap relationships beyond, obviously, like child-adult relationships.
	But I think that they're worthy of judgment.
	They're worthy of judgment.
	Totally.
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	What does that mean?
	Worthy of judgment.
	Relationships where there's like a large understanding.
	What is worthy of judgment?
	Oh, like that.
	Jimmy's donated $100.
	It's confirmed the psycho has a dumpy.
	Brian, like how you can sit there and let the crazy IT flirt with you to try to trick you into putting a baby into her.
	It's their whole moment.
	I have a copper IUD.
	I already have three kids.
	No babies.
	No babies.
	Brian knows how to brain.
	He's 35, for God's sake.
	I have a copper IUD.
	Go copper IUDs.
	Okay, thank you.
	I don't think this.
	Yeah, I see.
	Women's list.
	Ha ha!
	We now have non-hormonal break.
	Oh, I love Andrew.
	Okay.
	So go ahead with the age gap.
	What I was explaining what judgment meant or whatever.
	Worthy of judgment.
	Yeah, worthy of judgment.
	Because I think it's very suspect and it's telling of a person's mental state or character when they participate in a large age gap relationship, especially with a much younger person.
	So wait, just before we get into the age gap stuff, just because we brought up the whole like fast track to combat surgeon thing, I'm going to read a couple messages I received.
	We have a message.
	These are all military guys.
	The blonde chick is.
	Wait.
	She can fast track to officer joining with a college degree.
	However, fast tracking to surgeon is fucking crazy.
	That's the delusional part.
	She needs to be in the middle of the moment.
	They could have been lying.
	I will say that.
	People did tell me that maybe they were just telling me that.
	She needs her medical degree and surgeon license, basically passing the surgeon.
	Right, so I was going to be a medic first.
	Okay, cool.
	And this is, so he, this is the guy.
	He said he served four years as a medic in the military.
	We have another one.
	She's full of shit.
	I went in for six years, so I got automatically E4, no degree, just a dumb high school kid.
	Women do not serve as combat medics, by the way, and we're not allowed into that role until, and we're not allowed into that role until 2016.
	Well, yeah, this was back in 2009.
	Right, but he said it wasn't allowed.
	Okay, well, again, it's possible that they were lying to me, and I did have several people.
	They didn't lie to you.
	You lied to me.
	They were saying that the recruiters get paid, obviously, and that they might have been telling me certain things so that I wouldn't have to do it.
	Were you in the military?
	So I enlisted and I swore in the whole thing, but back then there was a wait period between when you would enlist and sign in.
	Like, I literally didn't swear in.
	No, they were making us wait four months before we were getting shipped out when the economy crashed.
	So there's tons of people trying to get in the military.
	You told yourself this story for so many years that you literally had whatever.
	Did you go to basic?
	So I got pregnant and I couldn't go to basic.
	I had to get a military.
	I had to get a military.
	I have another thing.
	You actually believe that.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	He also says, I'm a 12-year Army vet.
	She's a liar.
	The Army will never fast-track you to be a quote combat surgeon.
	Number one, she is not even a surgeon.
	The Army doesn't train surgeons anyway.
	You would have to go to med school.
	The Army will either pay for that or you were already a doctor.
	That's what they were telling me.
	That's what they were telling me they were going to do.
	Hold on.
	She can go to OCS, officer candidate school with a degree, but going in as an E4, no, fast-track, no, I scored a 95 on the ASVAB.
	Is that what it's called?
	ASVAB.
	Almost perfect, and there is no fast-track, just different jobs that are open to you.
	As a different guy, as a USMC veteran, I can show what a veteran, hold on, never made it through MEPS, M-E-P-S.
	She carries around a fucking ID that grants her no fucking respect or recognition.
	As a USMC United States Marine Corps veteran, I can show what a veteran's ID looks like and what it looks like on a regular driver's license as a veteran.
	Isabella says you can join as an officer if you have a bachelor's degree, but what she's saying is not true.
	She's been in four years.
	Okay.
	Can I respond?
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	I'm just trying to read some of these other ones.
	Okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	This guy, Billiam, this is Billiam the Mars.
	He's in the I'm in the Marine Corps.
	Stolen Valor scumbag.
	You can't enlist as an E4.
	An E4 is not an officer rank.
	It's an enlisted non-commissioned officer rank.
	What I'm saying is I denied officer ranking to enter as an E4 because I did not feel I had earned officer status before I had done my time.
	So I purposely said, no, I won't be an officer.
	And then last one from Austin.
	I just got the Marine Corps as an E5 sergeant recruiter.
	There's no possible way she would enter as an E4 and be fast-tracked to officer.
	There's programs you have to go through to go from enlisted to officer.
	You can Google Army enlisted to officer.
	A combat surgeon is mandated to be an officer with a specialized degree.
	Okay.
	I want to ask you a question.
	You.
	Okay.
	Do you really think?
	Sorry, do you really think that somebody with that short of a temperament can even be considered on a high-level Army position?
	Somebody who cannot wrap their thoughts together or control their impulse by going and taking care of people.
	You know, I don't know.
	Army people are very specific, you know, with their mentality, with how they think, with how they act, with how they react, especially.
	And you calling yourself a genius because I think I feel sorry for you, but I think you told this story to yourself for so many years.
	You lied to yourself and probably said to every guy that you met and been proud of this fictionary story.
	So you're just saying it naturally because really you believe in it because you're delusional.
	And now you sit here and he's telling the crowd from the army to actually give facts and I'm telling you stuff and you're sitting there still pretending and believing this lie, you know, and I feel really, really sorry for you because you don't have any leverage or any high level.
	You're just like lazy people who want to be a millionaire and they're miserable on millionaire who actually climbed the ladder.
	You're like a person with no qualification, no talent, no brain, no nothing, and you tell this fictionary story, try to represent it to everybody you know, and you have the audacity to come here on a very popular podcast, telling this lie, and literally think we're dead dumb to believe this.
	It's crazy.
	You can yawn all you want, but you just make yourself look stupid, liar, dumb, delusional.
	I don't know how you live with yourself.
	No.
	How do you live with yourself?
	How?
	Why?
	Same way that everybody else does.
	Like, I sleep eight hours a day.
	You know, I eat my veggies.
	I take my vitamins.
	It's not going to help me.
	I'm going to veggie and do psychiatric pills.
	Talk to my friend.
	All right.
	Anyways, back to the age gap conversation.
	So do you want to continue making your argument?
	I don't know if there's a specific question.
	I mean, I already made my argument.
	I just, I don't.
	I think it's worthy of judgment.
	I think it's worthy of judgment for sure.
	Okay.
	So, like, what to you constitutes an age gap?
	Like, with 30 and 20, I'm assuming.
	That's an age gap.
	I think it warrants judgment.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think that.
	So what about like 30-25?
	No, that's fine.
	I mean, that's like.
	Okay.
	35-25?
	Suspect, yeah.
	Suspect.
	In what way is it suspect?
	I mean, you know, I think the older, the older you get, the more responsibility you have of yourself.
	But young adults, like in their early mid-20s, are still aging and learning.
	And so, you know, they're going through a very transformative period in their lives.
	And people that are in their 30s are, you know, past this period in their lives.
	And it's very weird for them to find, you know, so much common ground with these early mid-20s people.
	Before I offer my point of view on this, we'll just get the whole panel's thoughts here.
	Age gap relationships.
	Do you object?
	Do you not care?
	What are your thoughts on age gap relationships?
	I do not care.
	Okay.
	I'm looking at the stage of life more than the particular age.
	So I just think it's weird when one person is like barely starting out in life, creating like their construct of the world, and then you have a person who's like already very well established, like has done all the things.
	That seems weird to me.
	Whereas like maybe you have a late bloomer and like an early starter and the age gap might be big, but like they're basically in the same phase of life.
	I don't really see a problem with that.
	You see what I'm saying?
	Because maturity and thought process and stuff is not just a function of age.
	It's also a function of life experience, which is going to be variable person to person.
	Hmm.
	Stage of life.
	That's an interesting one.
	So would you, Desiree, would you date some would you date somebody younger than you?
	I typically don't, but if they have accomplished more than me in like most areas of life, then I would because it could be somebody that I could look up to.
	So when it comes to stage of life, and this isn't totally related, this isn't totally related to age gap stuff.
	But like, for example, should average women be allowed to date men with status?
	Average.
	For example, I think most women here at this table, if a guy who is a professional athlete gave you attention, you'd probably date him.
	I do.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	Assuming, you know, you thought he was attractive, you liked him, whatever.
	I see your sense.
	Yeah.
	But it's a totally different stage of life.
	He's got a fuck ton of money.
	Right, I don't think that that's healthy because I usually think the one person's like a leech.
	I think the people need to be on the equal level.
	So women are leeches.
	If that's the case.
	Like, if she's like clout chasing or she's only with him because of his status, there's plenty of basic.
	There's plenty of fun.
	No, I think that's gross.
	Nobody fucking women who want to fuck celebrities.
	I think that they're not.
	It's a different stage of life.
	Right, so I'm saying that people should be in the same phase of life.
	Yes, I agree.
	That's why women who aren't funny shouldn't have as one of their requisites for dating a man, he shouldn't be funny.
	Exactly.
	If you're not a funny woman, don't date a funny guy.
	Every single woman, every single woman wants to date a funny guy.
	That's not true.
	Every single girl.
	I never say that.
	I like a funny guy.
	I never say that.
	I never say that.
	Every single woman says, I like funny men.
	Are they funny?
	They're in a different stage of their comedic development.
	That is true.
	It's not.
	It's not true.
	Like, I didn't get sarcasm for the longest time.
	I'm barely starting to get it.
	Okay, I say, okay.
	Let me go around the table, get everybody's thoughts here.
	Okay.
	It's completely true.
	Maddie, you're just whatever.
	I mean, if you want to weigh in.
	I thought you wanted me to just speak what?
	Oh, if you want to weigh in, you can.
	I don't really care, but I probably wouldn't do it for myself.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I don't really care.
	I just don't think that I would do it for myself either.
	But I do think that sometimes seeing an age gap of like 15 years, I guess I'm just kind of getting.
	Does it give you the ick?
	Is it creepy?
	It's like.
	Is it gross?
	It's like if I saw a 15-year-old with like a legal level, I guess, I guess 18-year-olds.
	18-year-olds.
	Sure, yeah, we're talking about adult relationships here.
	So an 18-year-old.
	Yeah.
	If I saw an 18-year-old with like a 35-year-old, 40-year-old.
	I don't know.
	I feel like personally, I don't think, I don't know, I just don't.
	I don't think it's right on my end.
	Okay.
	But if the other person would want to do that, then you know, like that, oh, like for them.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't think it's right or wrong, but I do state the facts that because I'm from the Middle East, majority of men there prefer younger women.
	A lot of women in America, they're going to be, oh, they're pervert, they just want young women.
	But usually in the Middle East and a lot of places in the world, when women hit puberty, they get married.
	I'm not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it's wrong.
	You know, I'm like, for me personally, I don't like dating younger guys.
	I like dating guys my age, but the world is super diverse.
	Everybody in America thinks America is the center and what they do here, it's normal.
	But I can tell you firsthand, younger women in the majority of the world, this is what guys want.
	And a lot of the guys, when they marry the woman and she comes to a certain age, they change her for a better model that looks exactly like her.
	Unfortunately, a lot of women don't want to accept that because they want to think, oh, it doesn't matter my age.
	But age does matter to a lot of men.
	I actually don't think it's men that are opting out for a newer model.
	No, not here.
	No, but in the Middle East, they do.
	I've seen a lot of men.
	No, I'm saying in the other side of the world, you know.
	Your thoughts?
	Yeah, I don't care about age.
	I just, for me, I like them older.
	Okay.
	What do you so you prefer to date older men?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What's the oldest you've dated?
	Oh, 39.
	Okay.
	And well, how old were you?
	24.
	24.
	So that's 15?
	15, 16?
	Yeah, 15, yeah.
	And but you don't think it's weird from the guy's part to want to date somebody younger.
	You don't think it's weird or whatever?
	I don't think it's weird.
	But in my opinion, in my experience.
	But then I definitely seen other type of, like, people, other relationships where the girls are having, like, you know, those daddy issues.
	That's when I think it's, yeah.
	That's when I think it's definitely wrong.
	Okay.
	I think if they're old enough to be your parent, I think that's kind of like the gap.
	But I think a few years is fine, you know, five, six, seven years.
	But anything kind of over ten is icky.
	Wait, so you mentioned like what's the thing of if it's the same age as your what?
	If they could be old enough to be your parent, technically, like they could, like they could be your mom or dad.
	The age.
	Women don't mind if it's a celebrity.
	Well, that's just me.
	I wouldn't date a guy that's as old as my dad.
	But society is hypocrite because you could see young, gorgeous girl dating, you know, like a famous celebrity.
	Right.
	I'm not attracted to that.
	I think me too.
	But a lot of women said, no, I don't date older man, but if he's multi-millionaire and famous, they would do it because it's hypocrite.
	But I don't get this whole, like, it reminds me of it's like dating your father for the guy.
	It's like dating the woman the same age as your daughter.
	High-level men, let's put it like that.
	Really high-level men would never date younger women.
	Wait, high-level men date younger women.
	Yes, yes, they would.
	You see, new money, yes, younger.
	Okay, let me explain in America.
	A lot of men have new money, so they date young girls.
	But if you go, for example, to Switzerland or Monaco or Russia, a lot of men won't date officially.
	I'm not saying behind the scenes.
	Officially, they would never marry or date a younger woman because they would be embarrassed.
	Behind the scenes, yes, a lot of women have younger lovers.
	Well, I don't know about the high-status dating in Switzerland, but it's not just in Switzerland.
	It's the majority of the world, high-level, old money, generational money, they won't date a younger woman.
	It would be embarrassed for them.
	Well, I don't know about old money dating either.
	But I just don't get this whole like daughter, like father thing because it's like, couldn't you just say the same?
	Would you want to see your father dating your girl the size of your age?
	So it's like similar age relationships are objectionable or sick because it's like you're dating your brother.
	No, no.
	He's the same age.
	Do you want to see your father?
	Wait, do you want to see your father dating some girl that could be in your sister age?
	How would you feel if your father was dying?
	My father's happily married.
	No, but I'm just saying.
	My dad was that one.
	If your dad was engaged to a 26 girl, wait a second.
	If your dad was not married, right?
	And he was, let's say, God forbid, separated, and he wanted to date a girl that is in your sister age, would you feel comfortable with that?
	So in her 30s, I don't have actually any objections.
	That would actually be like, good for you, dude.
	No, I would not want my father to date someone.
	But you know, you cannot judge because life, you know, some people do it, some people don't.
	We cannot control it.
	I mean, I think when the age gap gets big, like big enough, you do have to start thinking about the motivations, not so much of the man, but of the women.
	But the reasons?
	Because it's like a 20-year-old dating a 30-year-old, it's not immediately clear if it's like she's with him for the money.
	But look at Cher's boyfriend.
	If it's a 30-year-old with an 80-year-old, okay.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	Okay, yeah.
	You're like in your sexual prime and you're really gonna like shack up with this.
	It's like, come on.
	I always am like, what the fuck are you sexy?
	Here, Brian.
	It's like I said before, when he went to the moment, he's definitely a personal one.
	So hang on, Desiree.
	Okay, I don't think my dad's gonna watch this, but my dad, when I was 24, he slept with a 22-year-old, and it made me feel some type of way.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why.
	I had it.
	I understand it.
	I had the same experience.
	But it just made me because I was like, dad, that's disgusting.
	She's younger than me.
	I'm your daughter.
	I was like, and I'm going to bring her to Parents' Day at college.
	Like, what the fuck is this?
	Desiree, I don't know what you're saying.
	It made you feel a certain way.
	Absolutely.
	In that way, I mean, I'm just saying, I don't know.
	It's just a creepy vibe because then you start thinking, oh, God, what is the man thinking about me?
	I agree.
	You know, it's just a weird mind trip.
	I personally think it's weird if you're like over the if you're under the age of 25 dating someone like 10 years older.
	Yes.
	If that makes sense.
	When the woman in a 30 is different, but yeah, I don't, I think anyone under the age of like 25 should date someone within their range.
	If they're like in their like 30s dating someone that's older, that's fine because they have their life together.
	Full frontal lobe.
	Definitely.
	Yeah, their full frontal lobe is developed at that point.
	But I don't think like, let's say like someone my age dating like a 40 year old.
	But can I hear an actual argument for why it's wrong?
	I tell you why it's wrong.
	Like I get that it makes you feel it's gross.
	But like can I hear an actual argument why it's wrong?
	Energetically.
	What?
	Listen to me, energetically.
	More energy.
	Your energy when you're in your 20s and your 30s and your 40s, it's completely different thing.
	You're right.
	But other people like a younger.
	Let me explain.
	35 year old.
	Today men, listen, today men in their 50s and 60s, they want to sleep with a younger woman.
	They have to take Viagra or all these pills.
	A lot of them, when they get older, they have to take pills in order.
	And a younger girl's wait, and younger girls want to have more sex.
	So in the beginning, they get excited, but when they get a little bit more older, everything changes.
	She wants to go out.
	She feels like she already raised the kids.
	You want to do things and he's already becoming really old.
	Between you and me, for a woman, it suck.
	Young women, they don't understand it.
	To get married to an older guy, for a woman, it sucks.
	For the men, it's pretty fun.
	We're talking about like 50, 60 year olds.
	So here, we'll just use me as the guinea pig.
	I'm 35.
	I'm 35.
	What would actually be wrong?
	Like, make actual arguments besides just gross and icky.
	It's not wrong.
	Let's say 20.
	It's not wrong.
	If you want to have sex with a children's.
	What is your reason for being interested in a 20-year-old?
	Like, what's your reasoning?
	The truth, a young vagina.
	That's what they want.
	Is that vinyl?
	That doesn't make it better, though.
	And just to be clear, I would date a woman from 18 to 50.
	He doesn't care because he likes to give a 50-year-old a date.
	But what would be the reason to be interested in somebody that's that young?
	What would be she's attractive?
	She's cool.
	Okay.
	Do you think 20 is crazy, though?
	I think, so like.
	But you said you would date somebody from 18 to 40.
	Sure.
	So you can think 40-year-olds are also attractive and cool.
	Sure.
	There's probably older.
	That's valid.
	I think when I was 32, 33, I dated like a 45-year-old.
	So that's valid.
	But if you're dating somebody that's specifically talking.
	If you're dating somebody that's 20 years old, it's not like I'm exclusively.
	Yeah, no, that's fine because I think a lot of men get into the rhetoric of, oh, like, I want to date a young girl because she's in her prime, you know?
	And I think that that's like a stupid argument to make.
	But if you're making the argument that you would date somebody with such a wide age range, then that's fine.
	But I think that like, what, like, what do you have in common, first of all, within your life?
	Within your life, with your maturity level, with your interests, with life experience, what do you have in common with somebody who's 18?
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Do you think having things in common is a well, I think that it is a priority when you're dating people that are in formative years of their life.
	I think it's very important.
	Having things in common?
	Can I ask you a question?
	So like the person in your life who's a male who you've had the most in common with, did you end up dating him?
	No.
	Well, so it's clear to me then that commonality Not the ultimate or even the penultimate or even the tertiary or even the 10th most important thing.
	But what do you call it?
	Commonality is irrelevant.
	It's not commonality.
	It's just am I attracted to them?
	Compatibility.
	But like, why are you attracted to somebody that is so infantilized to you?
	Well, infantilized in comparison to you.
	Infantilizing.
	Because an 18-year-old.
	You're talking about a 20-year-old infant?
	Yes.
	I'm an infant compared to you.
	Mentally?
	No, no, no.
	Since when have you been in?
	I'm 23.
	I'm much younger.
	When have infants been 20-year-olds?
	I said, infantilizing.
	Look up the definition on the generation of infantilized.
	They literally can't handle one wrong word or they're going to die, I guess.
	Infantilizing.
	Treat someone as a child or in a way which denies their maturity and age or experience.
	Right.
	So infantilized doesn't mean they are.
	It would be the opposite of the child.
	It means that they are comparative to a child.
	It would be the opposite of infantilizing for me as a, or any man who's in his 30s to view a woman in their 20s as worthy of a relationship.
	That's a valid point.
	But.
	No, it would be the opposite.
	But here's the thing.
	You're not infantilizing them.
	They are infantilized in comparison to you.
	That wasn't the statement.
	The statement I didn't make was that you were infantilizing them.
	I said they are infantilized in comparison to you because they are much younger than you.
	They're not the same.
	I just read the documentary.
	But you're using the definition in an incorrect way.
	What can a 35-year-old man have in common with a 30-year-old woman that he can't also have in common with a 20-year-old woman and you're an infant who's fucking six different men?
	WTF are you on?
	Let's get back to.
	Let's get back to you.
	I actually want you to answer this question.
	Okay, wait.
	I want you to answer this question.
	I got to read the question.
	Or can someone read it for me?
	I can't see it.
	Okay, so what can a 35-year-old man have in common with a 30-year-old woman that he can't also have in common with a 20-year-old woman?
	What stage in life?
	What stage in life are 20-year-olds in, and what stage in life are 30-year-olds in?
	Like what part of their life and their formative years are they in?
	So let me ask you a question.
	Okay, let's go.
	No, no, I'll engage with you on the stage of life thing.
	Go.
	So let's assume for a second that you have, are you familiar with this term failure to launch?
	Yeah.
	So somebody who just, they haven't gone to school, they haven't like gotten really a job.
	They stayed at their home and kind of like fucked around and did nothing.
	And they're 35.
	35-year-old man who's just no college degree and failure to launch, never had a girlfriend, nothing.
	And don't you find compared to like a boss babe 22-year-old who just graduated college and she's going off to get a 100K a year job.
	And don't you find that suspect that a 35-year-old man would be a failure to launch and have something in common with an 18-year-old and that's what they would have in common is they're in the same formative years of their life.
	Don't you think that that man, that man isn't a good role model?
	She's further launched.
	A 20-year-old could be further along.
	So you need to now make the argument.
	Hold on, you gotta let me finish.
	You need to now make the argument that a 22-year-old woman who's dating a failure to launch man is predatory or gross or icky.
	I didn't say that it's predatory.
	I said it's gross and icky because the relationship is not a compatible relationship.
	Sit back down or?
	Because the man inherently has something.
	Sit down.
	Until what?
	The man is until 3 a.m.
	How about the man inherently has something wrong with him which makes him compatible with somebody so much younger than him?
	I'm sorry, repeat it.
	The man, okay, the man.
	Man inherently has something wrong with him that makes him more compatible with people younger than them, which makes it less likely, which makes it less likely for them to have healthy relationships.
	Are there exceptions to the rule?
	Yes.
	But for the majority of the time, when people are in very big relationships.
	You didn't let me finish my arm.
	You can't just make three different arguments.
	You gotta let me take them one at a time.
	I didn't make any claims about compatibility.
	In fact, I said commonality, compatibility, irrelevant.
	Are irrelevant?
	Totally irrelevant.
	Okay, why?
	You think I asked you, there's a guy who's been in your life who you stated you have the most in common with.
	You didn't end up dating him, but because I'm not sure what you gotta let me finish speaking because there were more important things, either to you or to him, had nothing to do with commonality.
	But the reason that it's weird is that the compatibility is weird, is because the man is not at, is not mature enough or not here.
	Actually, I'm not going to say the man because this could be a gender reverse situation.
	The man or woman that is older, the party that is older in this relationship, does not have the emotional maturity of their age, and therefore, therefore, the relationship cannot be the healthiest relationship it can be.
	Again, there's always exceptions to rules.
	You can make any argument for any exception to the rule.
	What do you argue with?
	The majority of the time.
	Can I add something to this?
	Honestly, I think even this argument is useless, and I'll tell you why.
	Because especially now, 2024, there's no more, not even what I said, it's not valid.
	Because today, so many exceptions.
	Like, it's like a chaos out there in the dating world.
	You could see really young girls with really older guys.
	You could see really older women.
	Like you see, Sharon, Madonna.
	It's embarrassing, but it's like normal in their world because, you know, there are celebrities.
	There's no rules at all whatsoever.
	Because the majority of society, especially in America, is decay.
	It's decay society.
	It's failing society.
	Like if you go, if you leave America and go for two months, for example, to Italy, to Eastern Europe, to the Far East, America, when you go and ask the question you would ask in America, they wouldn't even know what you're talking about.
	When you tell them, what is your gender?
	Like, what?
	What gender?
	You know, because in America.
	William Thomas donated $100.
	Having less in common means you can actually have room to build things in common and share experiences together.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	American society.
	Thank you, Billy.
	I'm appreciative.
	Thank you.
	American society in general twisted and doctrinated their own people to destroy them from the inside.
	So you see a lot of confused women who want to be a man.
	They don't even know what they're doing.
	You see a lot of confused women like you.
	Jordan Ms. Royal donated $100.
	Guys, don't let these women fool you.
	I am 36 years old and pulled a 21-year-old on Friday night.
	We have the same name.
	We have the same sign.
	I seal the deal.
	We have been talking all day since.
	Jordan, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	There's no rules.
	America is a chaotic society.
	Devon Jackson donated $100.
	I'm pulling it back up.
	What can a 35-year-old man have in common with a 30-year-old woman that he can't also have in common with a 20-year-old woman and you're an infant who's fucking six different men?
	WTFRU on.
	So, okay.
	Let's not talk having things in common because you're taking having things in common as meaning, oh my god, we both like going broing.
	that's what you asked you said what i meant in common as in what is their maturity level their mental states why are two people in completely different like their worldviews their values like the deeper things that like that you would need to have present to have like a real long-term compatible relationship no much And in your 20s, you're kind of self-forming it, right?
	Yeah.
	You're self-forming it.
	And most of the time, most of the time, younger people, I mean, don't have a good sense of the world because they have less experience.
	And I think that if a person that's much older doesn't have that sense about them, then that's a red flag in them.
	Does that make sense?
	Well, that's why I'm not afraid of it.
	Entering age.
	Everything age defines maturity.
	But wait, but with that being said, yesterday, I went out to a place in Beverly Hills, right?
	All the women were young, dressing beautiful, having makeup, all of them dressed sexy.
	And I didn't see a lot of younger guys under 50 or 45.
	All the guys were really old, older compared to, sorry, not older compared to the women there.
	So I think in general, when you go to Miami, to New York, and I travel a lot, I think a majority of society of women in America and men, but women specifically, it's a prostitute-only fan mentality, even if they don't do OnlyFan.
	Because the majority here of people thinking, he's men, I look good, I got this equipment of a body, I go to hunt men with money.
	And women here don't want to hear or don't want to even look at men that they don't make a certain amount of money every month.
	They're looking for specifically older guys with money.
	Okay?
	So it doesn't matter what we say or what we talk in this podcast.
	In the end of the day, majority of the people in this country have no value.
	They traded their value a long time ago for money, specifically the women.
	And men, because they realize they don't have a lot of marriage material in this country, so the women in this country destroyed the men.
	Remember that the girl you said before?
	Oh, we're not in the 60s, we're not in the 50s.
	Yes, and it's really bad because in the 60s, then in the 50s, women had values.
	They knew how to treat a man.
	And I'm not saying women necessarily have to sit at home and not work and just raise the kids.
	You can have your career, you can be ambitious, you can do things, but still, majority of women in this country, they have a prostitute mentality, and it's really, really sad.
	Okay, so we'll have a bit of an exchange now.
	So you were talking about maturity, right?
	Do you think you're more mature than Desiree?
	Yes.
	Well, you're 23 and she's 38.
	All right, let's go back to when I said there's exceptions to every rule.
	And I think it's okay to be able to do that.
	Devon Jackson donated $100.
	Which of the six men you're seeing do you have deep intellectual conversations with about your stage in life and your future?
	Would love to know?
	The six men I'm seeing, I'm not having relationships, like romantic relationships with.
	They're purely sexual relationships.
	So then she's six at one time?
	Wait, just hold on.
	So is it better then for an older man to strictly have casual sexual encounters with young women as opposed to a man who wanted a monogamous long-term relationship with a young woman?
	Which is more objectionable to you?
	the monogamous relationship i think if people yeah just to be clear so a 35 year old man who just wants to fuck an 18 year old once and then ghost draft her is less objectionable than a 35 year old man who has good intentions wants to be monogamous with her wants to be in a long-term relationship with her.
	Now, say that.
	Say that.
	Put that out there.
	Because I think that a man that is a 35 targeting an 18 year old because an 18 year old is fresh at a 15.
	But hold on.
	So when you say targeting, so for example, let's say he's desirous of dating a variety of age age range, all the way from 18 to 50, whatever.
	Would you use that framing targeting for a if he was wanting to date a 30 year old?
	Is he targeting like I said, you just targeting 30 year old women?
	You can put out every exception.
	I told you there's exceptions to every rule.
	You can put out everyone exception.
	However, men that specifically go after younger women.
	That specifically have a preference for a younger woman.
	I'm not shifting the goalposts.
	You're the one that's talking about exceptions to the rule.
	I'm not sure.
	No, I'm not.
	You are.
	I'm saying.
	So, okay, I was using myself as the guinea pig.
	And I'm 17 to 40.
	We already had this conversation.
	I already agreed.
	I was like, okay, that's a little bit more valid.
	And I understand your preference because you have a wide age range.
	I literally said that.
	No, but if I ended up dating a 20-year-old, you would object to it.
	I think that's weird.
	I definitely think it's weird.
	That's what I'm trying to confirm.
	I think it's weird.
	I think it's weird.
	It depends, you know, on the relationship, but I would think it's weird for you to be interested in somebody.
	Why is it weird?
	Why is that okay?
	But no commitment is okay.
	Like, you're okay with having relationships with no commitment at all, but him having a committed relationship with a 20-year-old, that's the problem.
	I don't have to.
	I don't have a problem with.
	I don't have an issue with you.
	Wait, so just to be clear, the way that you guys do.
	So you would consider.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	But you're having...
	Okay.
	Okay, you would consider.
	So you're 23, you said?
	Okay, so it doesn't have to be me.
	Let's just say a 35-year-old guy.
	If he wanted to just fuck you and never talk to you again, totally cool.
	But, or perhaps less objectionable.
	But if he wanted to be in a relationship with you and he had good intentions, more objectionable than just wanting to fuck you.
	Weird.
	I think that's weird.
	I cannot wrap my head around that at all.
	I think that's weird.
	So can I ask her a question?
	So say you had like a daughter who's 18 years old.
	Would you rather her be getting fucked by 35-year-old men or have a good relationship with 30?
	Yes.
	You'd rather be having sex with older men, but no like further relationships.
	No relationships.
	I don't believe that.
	You just don't have kids.
	I mean, I already said I don't want kids.
	How can you say that?
	When you wake up, you're not going to have eggs.
	It's just stupid.
	Because I have a mental illness that I have a mental disorder that I think makes it irresponsible for me to have a child.
	I'm not mentally ill, not you.
	You're making yourself mentally ill.
	But I think I have a mental disorder.
	Do you think that you have one or you were diagnosed?
	I have a diagnosis that I think makes it irrespective of the brain.
	But you said everyone found it out.
	The doctors here, the doctors here, I just want idiosyncrasies.
	I thought that was true.
	I don't trust their diagnosis.
	I don't think you're mentally ill.
	I think you're making yourself mentally ill.
	Because it's trendy.
	Because it's trendy and also here, if I go to, okay, let me tell you something.
	I felt one time not so good, right?
	Every time I went to the hospital, I had a problem with my implant.
	But every time I go to the hospital, they told me, oh, you have anxiety, take Xanax.
	You have anxiety, take Xanax.
	A year later, I almost died.
	But every time I come to the hospital, they tell me I need Xanax because I'm mentally ill.
	You're not mentally ill.
	You're a smart young woman.
	And if you have people, okay, around you that actually make you think that and put it into your head, you can totally change your life, change your paradigm, change how you think, and live like a normal woman.
	You're not so crazy.
	But first of all, I personally, just on a personal level, I don't want children.
	But again, you're only 23.
	You don't know what you want.
	I mean, I could change my mind in the future, but personally, I don't want children.
	But the specific disorder that I have, anti-social personality disorder, makes it very, very pretty much impossible.
	You're not antisocial.
	You're sitting here in front of many people.
	That's not what it means.
	Antisocial personality disorder is just the name of the disorder.
	It doesn't mean you're actually antisocial.
	Anyways.
	That's not true, but whatever.
	That is true.
	Anyways, having this disorder means that I'm very bad at connecting with Vector donated $100 to the girl in black, not Morgan.
	You made a mistake.
	Replace the six men with one sex doll, and you should be good to go.
	Exactly.
	Spare them the trauma.
	TTS is now $69.
	You're not, you just want to be able to do that.
	Thank you for the TTS Vector.
	10 times you keep saying to everybody, I'm mentally, I have this disorder, this disorder.
	You have no disorder.
	You only disorder for putting yourself down, not evaluating yourself, not appreciating yourself.
	No, no, I'm not going to allow you guys to derail the conversation.
	We're going to go right back to the age gap conversation.
	We're not going to go back to the psychopath conversation.
	So, okay.
	You're smart.
	I've failed to really hear an actual argument.
	So why is it gross or icky or weird?
	Because there is a maturity gap, and you keep saying you fail to hear an argument.
	I keep making the same argument, and we just simply disagree on it.
	Like, I can make the same argument all day.
	But so I hear from a lot of them.
	You don't agree with me.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, we're mature.
	You guys gotta let me fucking answer.
	Okay.
	So I hear from a lot of women, 18, 19, 20, 21.
	I even remember back when I was in college, a lot of girls were like, these college boys ain't shit.
	They're immature.
	They're all fuckboys.
	In this age, and a lot of them were dating older dudes.
	Maybe not like massive age gaps, but they do guy in their late 20s or some shit.
	But when they get to the 40s and 30s, they're sorry about that.
	I mean, I was thinking the same thing today.
	I was like, I can't keep doing younger men because they don't know what they want.
	I mean, women typically are more mature than men if you guys are like the same age.
	Like, if you bring like a 20-year-old man and a 20-year-old woman, typically the woman has a higher maturity level.
	So, I guess what's the moral argument?
	The moral arguments?
	Like, how's it morally wrong?
	That's boring.
	That's such a bad question for me because my disorder has.
	I don't really have a lot of morals, but I just, I think, because I. You put yourself so much down, it's unbelievable.
	It's so uncomfortable to sit on the side because I can see or I can observe people and how they act, how they can be influenced.
	Room 667 donated $100.
	The IDF chick is correct.
	This generation of retarded Americans have been brainwashed beyond repair.
	Men work, women are caretakers at home.
	It has been like that throughout history until recently.
	All right.
	Thank you, Ruin.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	It's because I personally think that people that are much older should have a maturity level that's a lot higher at a higher level than somebody that's much younger than them.
	And so I think it's weird when they have infants.
	Oh, my God.
	Mike Davis donated $69.
	Young females throw themselves at me all day for my bread.
	Yo, Mike Davis, we want to talk about the predators.
	Mike Davis is a Me Too victim.
	Yo, Mike Davis, join the Discord, dude.
	I'll give you a legendary role on there.
	I don't know if you got Discord.
	Hit me up.
	I think that.
	If an older man protects the younger woman, nurture and love her.
	So let's talk about the younger women throwing themselves at men with money.
	This type of dynamic doesn't create an authentic relationship.
	It's a relationship based on money.
	So therefore, it's not a good relationship.
	Not all the time.
	Not all the time.
	I want to say if you're throwing at somebody at the moment for money.
	So what are men seeking for, looking for when they're engaging in same-age relationships?
	What are men looking for?
	They're compatible.
	Hold on.
	Yeah.
	Let her answer.
	Compatibility companionship.
	Men are not even men your age, ladies, men your age are not looking for compatibility and commonality.
	Really?
	In her age, but in my age, they do.
	No, I don't care what age the dude is.
	In fact, I'll even say the same about women.
	Y'all don't give a fuck about compatibility and commonality.
	American women, not all women.
	Compatibility is different.
	But commonality don't care.
	Y'all don't care.
	But you're talking from your perspective.
	So you guys have the same taste of music.
	It's simply not true.
	Like I can tell you in my case.
	What are men looking for?
	What are men your age looking for in a woman?
	Okay, I think people my age are like younger, younger people typically are looking for out of a relationship.
	And this is my opinion.
	But I think people typically, what they're actually looking for in a relationship is just a sense of feeling that those hormones that come with being in love, I think it gives them a sense of, yeah, that's what I think that most people, young people that are seeking relationships, because that's what men your age are.
	They love that.
	They love having that feeling of being in love and being admired and being obsessed.
	It's all about how being in a relationship makes somebody feel at our age.
	So that's what I think personally.
	Make it a bit more clear to me.
	So men are looking for ABC.
	Tell me what they're looking for.
	They're looking for somebody to make them feel good emotionally, physically.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And that's what the men are looking for.
	Emotionally and physically, yes.
	Okay.
	And so the easiest way I can break it down.
	Men who are 10 years older are looking for what?
	They're looking for somebody that can create a life that they can create a life with.
	They should at least be looking for somebody.
	And that's the point.
	Is that not all the time they're looking for that?
	I want to know the truth.
	Let her let me know.
	Yeah, but you're to your point about how you should be looking for higher value men.
	A higher value man would be looking for somebody that can build a real life with and a real connection with.
	That's what Random should be looking for.
	Second of all, a lot of older men, when they go with young girls, they say, oh, yeah, this dumb girl, they look at you like you're dumb and easy.
	$69.
	I'm a 40-year-old, wealthy, and attractive man.
	I'm looking for a younger, unburdened by what has been attractive, younger lady.
	That's it at the most primitive level.
	Everything else is a perk.
	Big sass energy.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate the TTS.
	Well put.
	So I'm just confused.
	So you said.
	Shevani Jade donated $69.
	Psycho girl, but will draw on emotion and when it's convenient to the argument she wants to make.
	But when pressed for a justification, she resorts to my disorder means I can't understand.
	Thank you, Giovanni, for the TTS.
	I'm just a little confused.
	So you said these are all the things that, at least what you think, younger men are looking for.
	So one, what would preclude an older man from desiring those exact same things?
	And secondly, why could he not get those exact same things from a woman of any age?
	So I think an older man donated $69.
	I can't believe some of these 300 fastest spam.
	That's a good roast, man.
	Well done.
	I want to answer also, please.
	Okay, I kind of forgot the question.
	Okay, so an older man, all the things that you listed that a guy your age wants, who's to say that an older man can't want those exact same things and he can't get those same exact things from women of any age.
	So I think that an older man would be looking for those same things, but on top of that, should be looking for somebody that they could build, should be, right?
	Should be.
	Not that they necessarily are.
	What if he doesn't want kids like you?
	But it doesn't necessarily mean kids.
	What if he doesn't want kids like you?
	It doesn't necessarily mean kids.
	I don't want kids.
	No.
	But in building a partnership, you're...
	My dad has donated $69.
	Listen up, my kings in the chat.
	You're making a graveyard.
	Can you even concern yourself with the opinion of a female?
	Mike Davis never does.
	My motto is female detected, opinion rejected.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike.
	I want to say something.
	One sec.
	There's another one coming in.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it, DTS.
	Thank you, Ninja Bear.
	Ninja Bear donated $69.
	I'm 43, single, web deaf, only date 25 to 30 years old.
	Want to know why?
	I want a family.
	Girl in black does have a mental disorder.
	Syphilis has gone to her brain.
	It's not icky.
	I just want a family.
	Dang.
	She just wants a family.
	Okay, I want to say something.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry.
	Regarding this, a lot of older men, sonny, something stuck in my throat.
	Can I get some water, guys?
	Not water.
	Okay, no, no, I don't drink from somebody else.
	But anyway, what I wanted to say that a lot of the men, the older men, they want to date younger women.
	It's either because they need to have a younger woman to have multiple children with her.
	I know, because I know a lot of personally people like that.
	Second, women like it or not, they like younger body, they like younger vagina, they like younger look, they like to go outside and be seen with a younger woman.
	They want something fresh that lasts for a long time.
	Even though with that being said, a lot of the younger women, when they get to like age like 35, 40, they usually want to leave this older man.
	But a lot of men think it's for me.
	Oh, I thought it's for me.
	Look at that water pour into my cup.
	So give me a book.
	Yeah, you can have the rest.
	Just pour it into your cup and put it on the guy.
	Pour in the cup.
	So a lot of men, let's be honest, a lot of men want to be with a younger woman.
	As much as it hurts to the older women, a lot of guys just want a fresh body, want to have a tight vagina.
	They didn't go through pregnancy.
	They don't want all the emotional burden.
	A woman in her 30s, 40s, 50s, whatever, they already set their own ways, usually stubborn.
	So they don't want that.
	They want something without a moment.
	I mean, I guess I just agree on a strong note, just being a mom.
	There are a lot of guys that will not date women that don't have kids because it's hard to have things.
	So just saying that they only prefer women that don't have kids.
	That's not true.
	No, I'm not saying all of them.
	I'm saying this specific.
	So you're saying majority.
	No, no.
	I said majority of older men who want the specific one who wants.
	I still think that not a majority of men in general in the world.
	That's not what I mean.
	I want to explain to you.
	Understand me.
	I mean, I hear what you're saying.
	I just don't think having kids ruins a lot of your vagina and stuff.
	Very natural.
	I mean, it goes right back to the bottom of the girl's underscore disordered underscore girl donated $69.
	She'll open crotch for any age, refuses to open it for any man trying to build a society.
	Kick her off the show.
	Every other girl, far more interesting and coherent.
	Thank God she won't reproduce.
	You talking about me?
	No, no, no.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	We don't have it.
	I'm a socially stunted guy.
	I never even kissed a girl until I was 25.
	Why the hell would I have dated a 25-year-old woman W slash 40 bodies?
	If you first had sex at 15, how is that fair experience?
	Wait, I'm confused about that.
	Did somebody talk before?
	Yeah, she said she started.
	Jimmy donated $69.
	Yeah, thank you, Jimmy.
	My now fiancé when I was 25, 26, and she was 18, 19.
	Seven years later, we are happy AF and driving our semi-pauling Tyson chicken working towards the house.
	Yo, Jimmy, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	Congrats on your happy.
	Are you married?
	Did he say my now fiancé?
	They're engaged.
	They're engaged.
	Congratulations.
	Congrats, Jimmy, on the engagement.
	I think they were saying that not, it's like sometimes it can work, but most of the time, it's like there's usually another motive to it.
	Yes.
	I believe that's what she was trying to say.
	Another motive to what?
	And a lot of men with kids, like you said, they don't want to date somebody that doesn't have kids because they don't understand them.
	Right.
	Like, they don't want, yeah.
	They don't want someone that goes out drinking and when they have kids and stuff.
	And they want somebody who will be competitive with their kids and can nourish their kids and help them.
	Yeah, I think it just goes always.
	Yeah.
	I don't think anyone can.
	I mean, I can speak a little anecdotally here.
	You might not feel like this is enough.
	My anecdotal experience doesn't speak enough.
	But I mean, I was on the dating apps for a while.
	I have plenty of experience dating women my age, a little bit older, around my age, what have you.
	I've actually found no evidence that older women are more mature, more emotionally developed, more mentally developed, more intellectually developed than 19, 20, 21-year-old women.
	And that's not answering.
	I found no evidence for this from my own dating experience.
	And that's why I think people around the age, mid-20s, age 25 is when your brain fully develops, and then you can make your own decisions after that.
	In the video that you referenced about age gaps, where I said that I don't like age gaps, I specifically clarified that if both people are, you know, 25 and older, I'm not even arguing that.
	Yeah, I'm arguing 35-year-old Brian.
	Make the argument.
	Make the argument.
	Why would you wrong?
	Because your brain isn't fully developed.
	You're not mature enough as a child.
	So should it be criminalized?
	As a younger person, should we legislate?
	No, I literally said that I should think.
	Hello?
	Do you guys not remember me losing my fucking shit earlier?
	When we started this conversation, the very first thing I said was, I don't think that it should be criminalized.
	I just personally think it's weird.
	And I pass judgment on people who participate in it.
	But I don't think that's a good idea.
	I think it's criminalized.
	I think it's a weird that you're currently having sexual intercourse with multiple different people.
	And you're allowed to have that.
	At the same time, just for your health, we can serve it.
	Nothing else.
	And your mental health.
	So just a question for you.
	So, okay.
	25-year-old, the, what is it?
	The, what's that thing called?
	Frontal lobe development, all of that.
	Prefrontal cortex.
	I don't know.
	So should women not be allowed to vote until they're 25?
	I think all people shouldn't be allowed to vote until they're 25.
	Actually, genuinely, I actually don't think people should be allowed to vote anymore.
	I'm very moderate.
	I don't have a political pressure.
	Wait, chat.
	I have a question for the chat.
	So if we were to only allow people 25 and older to vote, would this be to the benefit of Republicans or Democrats?
	Because I'm pretty sure it would be to the benefit of conservatives, Republicans.
	Of course.
	If you had to be, it was like 25 and up.
	There'd obviously still be liberal people.
	Obviously, we're still over that.
	But I'm pretty sure if you ban like 18, 19, 20, 21, like college people, college-aged people from voting.
	Absolutely right.
	You're right.
	I think, you know what?
	Women, they just can't.
	Let's just bump the voting age.
	I think it should be.
	As long as you can be on your parents' medical insurance, you shouldn't be allowed to vote because you're still basically under your parents' care.
	Wait, are you pro-choice or pro-life?
	Me, I'm pro-choice.
	Can I ask you a question?
	And so if by doing this, though, raising the age of voting to 25 meant that abortion actually ended up becoming illegal federally, would you still want to raise the voting age to 25?
	That doesn't change my opinion on...
	No, no, no, but answer the question.
	No, I think that I would still say we should raise the age, even if it means that things that I don't believe in.
	I mean, if you're like putting that ultimatum on it, then like maybe probably I wouldn't push for that.
	I'm not sure it would, but if you knew that was a possibility.
	I mean, again, that doesn't change my opinion that I think that 18-year-olds don't really have the same mental capacity as somebody that's in their mid-20s.
	That doesn't change my opinion.
	And I think that's a good thing.
	So should 18-year-olds not be allowed to go to college?
	No, because that's education.
	I mean, they should be allowed to go to college because that's educated.
	But look what people have been in education from.
	Right, but they, so a lot of 18-year-olds enter into predatory student loan contracts.
	And I think that's really that.
	Let me finish making the argument.
	A lot of 18-year-olds, both men and women, enter into these student loan contracts, and then they can, first off, student loans, you can never discharge student loans in bankruptcy.
	Yeah, so a lot of people financially fuck themselves into the money.
	They lying to you.
	Yeah, I think that's an issue.
	So big issue.
	Yeah.
	And here's the thing about.
	Oh, yeah.
	Actually fucked.
	Wait, and what about Qatar paying these billions of dollars to doctrinate them to go and do all this chanting in the...
	All right, come on.
	Let's not bring it to.
	Well, but it's like that.
	Okay, all right.
	Here, let me ask you a different question.
	So let's put aside or even grant your arguments.
	That it is icky, it's gross, it's creepy, it's predatory, whatever.
	Can you make a compelling argument in terms of the benefits to the man for why he should date, say, a 35-year-old instead of a 25-year-old?
	Because I think that a man dating a...
	And why are you, first of all, why are you putting this on men only?
	What do you mean?
	Like, why are you making the hypothetical on 35-year-old men and not 35-year-old men and women people?
	Just in general.
	Do you think there's a disparity between 35-year-old men and 35-year-old women?
	Do you think there's a difference?
	And is that why you're making the.
	Is that why you're specifically saying men and not men and women?
	Well, I'm making this disparity because there's a tendency women typically don't prefer to date younger.
	I would argue, like, across most ages.
	Yeah, but if they were to, I still have the same opinion that it's not.
	Well, I could actually, I feel like, I mean, I could even make compelling arguments why women would opt to date older.
	But so I'm asking you to make the argument.
	Of why.
	So I'm just going to just grant to you that it's gross, creepy, icky, whatever.
	So why don't you make a compelling argument in terms of the benefits to the man, say a 35-year-old man, why he should date a 35-year-old woman over a 25-year-old?
	See, that's like – that's taking the whole argument out of context because the whole – It's not taking it out of context at all.
	Because the whole point is that it's exploitative or predatory for the older man to go after the younger woman because the benefits of going after a younger woman is that you have somebody that's less experienced, doesn't really know what they want, so you can mold them and form them into having the life that you want.
	You're making some presuppositions there that's the benefit of dating a younger woman is that she is less, you know, set in her.
	Steelman my position.
	Why would a man, aside from the things you just listed, can you actually think of anything like good faith that, like, a reason why a man might want to date a younger woman?
	Wait, can you repeat that?
	I'm so sorry.
	Okay, so steel man the position.
	So make an argument for the side of why a guy who's 35 would prefer to date a 25-year-old as opposed to a 35-year-old.
	Okay, so if I was a 35-year-old.
	No, no, no, not if you were.
	Well, you just said make an argument for why, so I'm putting myself in their shoes, right?
	Is that not what you asked?
	Sure, go ahead.
	Okay.
	So if I were a 35-year-old man, the reason that I would go after a young woman and a woman younger than 25, the reasons that I would go after a woman that young, despite the, you know, maturity differences and stuff, is because of her lack of life experience.
	Oh, you would do that.
	So you admit you would be predatory in this circumstance.
	Yeah, that's why I wouldn't do that.
	I'm not steelmanning the position.
	So for example, would you be willing to grant to me, if I'm willing to, I mean, again, I disagree with you here, but would you be willing to grant that, for example, men might be more attracted to younger women because they're just physically more attractive?
	Yeah, that's valid.
	But a relationship.
	Is that, let's assume that that's it.
	So it's all based on physical attraction, right?
	You don't think men care about physical looks.
	So if going after a younger woman is entirely based on physical attraction, you want somebody that's younger because you're physically attractive.
	Then that doesn't create a good relationship because the relationship is primarily based on physical attraction.
	And then it leads to a relationship where the man, as the woman ages, he becomes less interested in the woman as she ages.
	he probably, presumably dumps her for another younger model, which creates a it creates a because you just made the argument that they're like oh well, these younger women are really attractive You do realize that you do realize that physical looks for both men and women is always the initial basis for attraction.
	Yes.
	Right.
	I didn't say that was the only reason.
	Yeah.
	I said it, it you, it could be the primary reason.
	Yeah, I mean if it and like, like I said, if it is the primary reason.
	But you said, you said, given that it's weird and creepy, and you said, given all those things are true in this scenario.
	So if, if we're giving all those things are true in the scenario and then the only, the only basis is attraction, then it's well.
	I'm, I shifted the topic and I just asked you to Steel MAN the other uh, Steel MAN the other side.
	I just did.
	No, you didn't.
	You actually.
	Okay well I'm, I'm gonna let a couple chats come in, but we're gonna continue.
	Sorry guys, I paused it temporarily.
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	Oh, we'll do twitch after the tts has come through.
	Not yet, though.
	There's a few, there's three more coming through and then we'll come back to the age gap convo for a bit.
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	I'm 36, she's 28 is an eight year age gap too much.
	Would it be worse if I was twenty seven and she was nineteen?
	It would be worse if you were twenty seven and she was nineteen.
	But thirty six and twenty eight, it's perfectly fine okay yeah, thank you Durin, appreciate it.
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	Hey brain, sorry i'm late here.
	Long day I caught a case of the ic.
	I get the ic whenever I see poor or middle class women with rich men.
	These women should date within their salary cohort.
	We're gonna go like another 40 minutes probably.
	I think this is it.
	Yeah, just saying okay, we'll see.
	Oh, there you go, look at that.
	Yeah, i'm like.
	Well, I don't want to get stuck in this.
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	Let me just, I want to just get through the age gap stuff, pause it temporarily.
	All right.
	So I'll just ask the question once more.
	Still haven't really hurt anything.
	Please change the question.
	No, we'll stay on the age gap.
	So, again, make a compelling argument in terms of the benefit to the man for why he should date a 35-year-old over 25-year-old.
	Because a 35-year-old should be, and I'm saying should be, should be more emotionally compatible with a 35-year-old man, and they should be in the same life arena.
	They should have, you know, similar values and an outlook on life and similar goals in life.
	Okay.
	Why?
	It's not clear at that point in time.
	I mean, it's not clear to me as I think there's a differential here between men and women.
	I think as men get more dating experience, granted, men can become jaded too.
	As men get more dating experience, they tend to become more attractive to women.
	As women get more dating experience, and this typically involves both positive experiences, but also a lot of negative experiences, they tend to become more jaded.
	They tend to become a little more less pleasant.
	Yes.
	Less, they have less zest for life.
	Because they get damaged.
	They get damaged emotionally.
	Yeah, they get trauma.
	They get trauma.
	Because that's what I said before.
	Everything that women do, it stays inside of her.
	And men for it just experience.
	But women, it's more damage on the plate, more damage, damage, often damage.
	That's exactly my point, what I said before.
	You just said it in different words.
	And women don't want to understand it.
	But I'll give you some anecdotal experience.
	So, I mean, I've this idea that all 20-year-olds are immature retards without a fully developed brain.
	And 30-plus-year-old women are just super mature.
	They've got their shit together, won't waste your time, and are just as or more physically attractive than their younger counterparts.
	Won't be a headache and introduce bullshit to your life.
	It's just totally absurd.
	So, anecdotally, I found that older women in their 30s, whatever, late 20s, whatever.
	In the 30s, they're just as, if not, more likely to waste your time than younger adults.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	The only trade-off is because all the women that aren't wasting their time are already taken by 35.
	I'll give you, and I've written this down.
	I'll give you three examples from my own dating life, and I've actually have many, many more.
	And these are from a few years ago when I was about 30, 31.
	29-year-old PhD student met on Hinge, set up a first date 30 minutes before we were supposed to meet.
	She texts and says something came up, canceled.
	35-year-old, I shouldn't say what professor met on Hinge.
	We talk on the phone, set up a date a few days later.
	One hour before the date, she says she maybe jumped the gun about getting on the dating apps.
	It's just not a good time in her life to be dating.
	She tries to blow you off.
	Regret here.
	Yeah.
	Something about you turned around.
	No, we never met in person.
	I know, but something about how you speak or what you're doing.
	No, no, it had nothing to do with it.
	No, she just looked.
	Maybe, I don't know.
	In any case, she said that, you know, she jumped the gun.
	Hold on, women have this experience where they get on a dating app and maybe they just got out of a relationship and they schedule a date with a guy and then they're like, eh, do I really want to be dating right now?
	I don't know why you're making some judgment that it was about something.
	No, it's specific, but what's happening?
	Okay, anyways, I know women aren't doing it.
	30-year-old pharmacist, 30-year-old pharmacist, right?
	She's a pharmacist, got her pharmacy degree, whatever.
	You'd think she'd be mature, right?
	We hung out twice.
	She's super non-committal with making plans, just strangely evasive, playing hard to get.
	After a few frustrating attempts to make plans with her, I just stopped texting her.
	She texted me three months later asking why I stopped texting her.
	She just wanted to fan touch.
	She wanted you to be a fan and annoy her.
	You just got to charge it.
	Let's see.
	27-year-old nurse met on Hinge 30 minutes before Dade texts me and says she isn't over her ex and needs more time to heal.
	She should have figured that out before downloading a dating app and wasting my time.
	37-year-old orthopedic surgeon who stood me up on the first date.
	35-year-old nurse dating app.
	She told me she was single, actually had a boyfriend of like 10 years who she lived with.
	I should set you up with a nice girl.
	Look, I don't know what's up with these fucking women in the medical field.
	In any case, I've had plenty of terrible experiences with women who have professional careers and they're in their 30s.
	Just because you're 30 and you have a career or whatever, it doesn't preclude you from being a fucking pain in the ass and a fucking headache to deal with from a dating perspective.
	I totally agree.
	Actually, a pain in the ass, I think.
	But I mean, if you want to pull up like anecdotal evidence to prove your point, I can also pull up anecdotal evidence.
	Sure, yes, there's an annoying point.
	Right.
	No, no, no, not even that, but let's talk about people that are in age gap relationships.
	Hold up, wait, wait, wait.
	Let's talk about every age gap.
	We can do that.
	Let me just address that really quick.
	Let me just address that.
	You're absolutely right.
	There's annoying people in their 30s.
	There's annoying people who are 20, right?
	But if I'm going to be dealing with bullshit from 30-year-olds, 35-year-olds, 40-year-olds, why don't I just date a girl who's more physically attractive, who's 25, as opposed to 35?
	25's fine.
	Okay, fine.
	I'll just go back to 20 then just to bother.
	See, then that becomes weird.
	No, but you can pull up the anecdotal evidence.
	And I said, let's talk about my anecdotal evidence, which is I have never met somebody in my life, experienced somebody in my life that had a large age gap relationship at a young age that didn't come out of that relationship with like severe trauma.
	And didn't have a relationship with that.
	I hear from plenty of women who date men their own age who come out of the same age relationships with plenty of strong men.
	But I also know a lot of people that have healthy relationships.
	I don't know how to do that.
	I don't know a single person that had an age gap relationship at a young age when we had a healthy relationship.
	And here's the reality, though.
	I would argue most 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old women, they don't want.
	Actually, just to be clear, if a younger woman doesn't want to, I'm not saying like young women need to date older men.
	Not the case at all.
	If you want to date a guy your age, totally cool.
	And you only want to date a guy your age, no problem with that whatsoever.
	However, because I think it's the case that most younger women, I think age gap relationships are in the minority.
	So I've heard from almost every single woman that they've had a traumatic dating experience.
	And it's not with an older man, it's with a dude their age.
	Yeah, but that's because they're still babies.
	That's because there's a larger pool to come from.
	But I, again, I've heard so many people my age that date people my age that have had healthy relationships.
	I've never heard of somebody my age or younger dating somebody significantly older that had a healthy relationship.
	Yeah, but what does it really I mean when women say they've had like a bad trauma relationship, does it just mean that the guy didn't put up with your shoe?
	Sexual abuse, financial abuse, older men are financially abusing a 20-year-old woman.
	I had a friend, she was 19 at the time, dated a 29-year-old man.
	She paid his rent.
	Because she wanted to.
	She paid his rental data.
	She's down bad, bro.
	Yeah, definitely.
	She wanted to be a child.
	She was dominating.
	She was 19 and impressionable and was able to be easily manipulated by this 29-year-old dude.
	I mean, that's what happens.
	Because it's weird.
	Because it's a weird age gap.
	And that man targeted her because he knew she was young and impressionable.
	That's crazy.
	I agree with all of that.
	Just to be clear.
	So if a guy was inclined to financially abuse.
	Wait, hold on, just to be clear.
	So what was the.
	She was paying his rent.
	Yeah.
	And that's financial abuse?
	I mean, financial exploitation.
	So just to be clear, so I think it's financial abuse.
	So you're saying that women, if a man pays of any age, pays a woman's rent?
	I think that's weird.
	She's being, or she's financially abusing the man?
	I think that's weird unless you're in a marriage.
	I think that's a good idea.
	Here's the thing.
	None of them.
	Let's talk the details of the children.
	Okay, you have 10 seconds, but then I'm going to say that.
	Details okay.
	The difference is somebody that's financially secure deciding of their own accord to support another person that is financially insecure versus a financially insecure person being manipulated to support another financially insecure person.
	I think it's a difference.
	There's a big difference in those relationships.
	Sure, there's those relationship dynamics.
	There's all kinds of differences.
	There's a big difference in those relationships.
	What do you think?
	Who's more likely to be financially abused?
	Men or women?
	Definitely in the scenario with the older men dating younger women, probably more often the older man would be financially abused.
	Well, who's more likely to provide in a relationship?
	A man or a woman?
	A man.
	By your logic, a man providing for a woman is financial abuse from the woman directed towards the man.
	But here's the thing.
	So if a man is providing for a woman, what is a woman providing to the man?
	She's probably providing a family.
	She probably provides relationships all the time.
	Domestic labor.
	She's probably providing domestic labor.
	Domestic labor, be so for real.
	What terms do you want me to use?
	It's just funny.
	But isn't that like the type of relationship so many people aspire to have is the relationship where the man is the breadwinner and the woman can take care of the children?
	Children roll.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	But isn't that like the trade-off is that the man is providing so that the woman is able to take care of the home and the children?
	Isn't that like the trade-off?
	There's a trade-off there, right?
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	In 35, I'd like to have many kids.
	35 for women is high risk.
	Geriatric pregnancy, hence I need to date much younger if I want the best outcomes for our children.
	The thing we'd have in common, family.
	My mom was 40 when she had me, and I feel like I turned out pretty decently.
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	Issue with a younger slash shoulder relationship if they have children, the older man, due to their life expectancy, wouldn't be around when the children becomes young adults.
	It could be emotionally scarring.
	Well, I mean, now you're talking like a 50-year-old dating a 20-year-old or something.
	I think like a 35 with a 25-year-old, I don't think it's going to have a massive impact there.
	But sure, you're not wrong.
	If you have kids, whoever the partner, well, if the man's older, won't be around as long.
	Lord 69U who donated $69.
	This is BS coming from a female that has only had FWB relationships completely together.
	Yeah, for real.
	Panel, does Leonardo DiCaprio give you the ick?
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	Does Leonardo DiCaprio give you the ick?
	Yeah, but from other reasons.
	Oh, Leonardo DiCaprio now.
	Have you ever been in his house?
	You should be in his house.
	Controlling ex means she couldn't go out to the club to get new peen.
	Financial abuse means he isn't paying 100% of her bills.
	Physical abuse means he holds her down when she tries to hit him.
	Lawpook, Law Paladins.
	My ex was abusive.
	He didn't.
	Oh my gosh.
	He told me no.
	I have a friend who dated a 26-year-old at 18, and he threw her against the wall.
	There's abusive men out there told me that she's a bad person.
	Broke all the furniture in her house.
	That's abuse.
	And that's an age gap relationship that I witnessed.
	That's a real anecdote in my life.
	Was it because of the age gap that he did those things?
	I think he targeted her.
	I think he targeted an 18-year-old that he could control.
	It's loaded language.
	But that's what he did.
	Okay, so let me ask you a question.
	That's what he personally did.
	So let's talk about targeted.
	Do you think what Cherry's doing is disturbing?
	So why do these predatory women target these high-status males, these NFL players, professional athletes?
	They want their money.
	Yeah, they target that predatory women.
	Hold on.
	Or hold on.
	I actually think that's just the natural order of shit.
	Women are attracted to high-status, hyper-attractive men.
	Definitely.
	Men are attracted to young, beautiful women.
	Exactly.
	That's true.
	That's not what is given.
	That is the nature.
	That is the nature of things.
	Yeah, completely fine.
	It's not targeting.
	It's not predatory.
	Women like rich, successful, hot, attractive men with status men like young people.
	So why would a man, a man that's older, not date a woman that's younger that's at his maturity level?
	Because obviously the relationships that I just gave examples of, women were not at the same maturity level as the man.
	They were being exploited and manipulated by the man.
	I can't speak to your anecdotes, but I have no objection.
	Let's assume that a 35-year-old deems that a 21-year-old is of an acceptable maturity level.
	See, here, like I said, there's exceptions to every single rule, but I personally have never seen the exception to this rule in my livelihood, and that's why I hold this opinion.
	That's fair.
	I mean, that's fair.
	She hasn't had any experiences.
	Yeah, I've never had an experience.
	You're giving me experience, baby.
	You're talking about it.
	Yeah, you're giving every anecdote.
	I'm just saying, you're giving every.
	You're like, oh, well, what about this experience, but I've never seen that happen in real life.
	I personally have never seen that happen.
	Did you hear women in a little girl?
	That's why I don't have that opinion that I have.
	Why do you want to hear her opinion for two hours when she doesn't have an experience?
	But a woman and a girl is different.
	Let both of them speak.
	No experience is talking about a topic.
	A topic that does not know about the topic.
	You guys can weigh in on the age gap stuff.
	I didn't mean I didn't.
	Okay, I'll get up listeners.
	I think she targeted him because women are attracted to abusive dominating me.
	If he was a nice guy, he would have given her the ick and never even gotten a date.
	True.
	Yeah, thank you, La Paladin.
	I agree.
	My friend that got financially exploited by the 29-year-old is now dating a man that's her age, and they're in a very healthy, loving relationship.
	He is a very, very nice guy.
	I'm actually going to hang out with them tomorrow.
	The financial exploiting happened to me with my last partner, and there was an age gap.
	He was 44, you know, and he literally used expression to like be laundering money.
	Like, literally, hey, quiet $69.
	Would love to hear the takes on abortion.
	My assumptions from Brian's left anti, anti-pro, anti, pro, What?
	What?
	He's uh, they're asking.
	So, worst things on abortion.
	I don't know if we can talk about that.
	Uh, abortion is murder.
	No, we can't, no, we can.
	No, you brought it up.
	It is because you can decide about the funny thing.
	Like the words.
	I just don't know what it is.
	Abortion is murder.
	Gender is not appealing.
	And Jesus Christ is Lord.
	Amen.
	Sexual.
	I don't know.
	Education.
	Because they say it is unalive.
	Abortion is murder.
	But I'm just saying.
	You can say it unalive.
	Abortion is wrong.
	I'm hoping.
	They say he said abortion earlier.
	I don't think we can vib about it.
	I think if we're not going to say that.
	Shush.
	Shushmortion.
	Yeah.
	We can say it.
	Okay, sorry, I didn't know.
	I just want if it causes too much.
	Anyways, don't you guys think those people that financially abuse you guys, though, were just probably shitty people?
	Yeah, exactly.
	For sure, yeah.
	But it's not because I targeted people who wouldn't even have that.
	I don't think a younger man would have even thought to fucking think he had to be older to even have fucking people.
	You don't have to do that.
	The level of calculation of this man was high-level shit.
	The younger guys, I've been with younger guys.
	No younger guy would have even known how to set me up in S-Corp and all this shit.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like he had to have been in the business world and tested out like a toxic person for you.
	He purposely targeted a white female because he was Hispanic with the last name Dominguez.
	So it's very important to him.
	It was very important to him that I change my last name to Dominguez so that way he could get all the loans and the grants that are for minor women.
	Because now there's like money and stuff that females can get, female business owners.
	We have like privilege right now.
	And if you're a minority female, even more.
	So he literally targeted me with this whole agenda.
	And I had no idea.
	I thought, oh, if you did these loans for him, you know, he wants to settle down here.
	It's not like a fuckboy.
	He wants to like settle down.
	Oh, no, he wanted to fucking launder all his racketeering stuff.
	Yeah, but you let him reach it.
	I didn't know.
	I was a stay-at-home mom and like doing ministry in Lawrence.
	Who did all the actual loans?
	That's what I'm asking.
	What are you talking about?
	Him.
	That.
	But it eventually said he let me do it.
	What?
	You told me a minute ago that he let me do all these loans for him.
	That's what you said.
	No, he would work with the financial people and get them.
	And you didn't know about it?
	No.
	Then you can sue him.
	I know.
	I have to work on it.
	You have to call the credit bureaus.
	I get it.
	That's what I'm doing right now.
	That's what I'm doing.
	I'm just telling you, no younger guy would have known how to run that fucking car.
	Because they're not that toxic.
	You're right.
	Or maybe you just weren't educated enough to get it.
	I know about it.
	I had no fucking clue that guys were running this shit.
	I didn't know.
	And he used my fucking kids against me.
	You know, it was just like Asian experience.
	You have a lot of drawings.
	Understand life better.
	Okay.
	You say Asian experience.
	Wait, what'd you say?
	You said it's almost like Asian experience makes people understand life.
	Never again.
	Never again will I exit my fucking hallway finance.
	TTS is now.
	We're going to do the roast section, then we're going to wrap up the show.
	So, TTS is now 30.
	Thank you.
	So, get in your last chats.
	We'll do the roast section.
	If you want to roast anybody, you want to roast Morgan.
	She's back.
	You want to roast Desiree?
	You want to roast Vic, the path?
	The psychopath.
	You want to roast Maddie over there.
	Maddie needs a good roasting.
	She's had a rough reek.
	Greek?
	Greek?
	What happened with your Reek?
	I don't want to talk to her.
	You want to roast our Spanish translator, you can roast her.
	You want to roast Sheena?
	I've donated $30.
	Fantastic panel tonight, Brian.
	Half need to be deported.
	Half need to be committed.
	Allison and Grace need to be armed.
	We are, I bet.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	Giovanni Jade donated $30.
	Desiree, I'm not Andrew.
	I was sending TTS during your talk with him.
	Andrew is also a heretic.
	Not as bad as Redhead, but both my siblings in Christ.
	You literally sexualized Christ.
	Foul demon.
	He did.
	Shit.
	That guy was living fucking life.
	It's sexy.
	It's sexy.
	Stop.
	Shut up.
	You are so disrespectful.
	I'm going to tell you right now, just stop.
	Have some self-control.
	Be a grown woman and shut your mouth.
	How the fuck is it?
	Shut up.
	I'm serious.
	Shut up.
	That's important.
	I literally had it.
	I've had it.
	He has a fair religion and you literally just.
	She is literally my biggest hero.
	Desiree.
	I'm hoping that's what I'm saying.
	Why you're talking about it?
	Shut up.
	How is she a mother?
	How?
	Oh, my.
	Are you sure?
	Wait, do Christians want Desiree?
	Big sex energy.
	Don't you know?
	Of course they desire no way of hair.
	The Christians don't want me.
	Respond to this.
	Respond to this.
	Respond.
	What?
	What is our word?
	I can't see without my glasses.
	The stereotypes were right.
	Daria donated.
	That would be a thing.
	What's up, Dario?
	What's up?
	Thanks for bringing Crazy back.
	Oh, yeah.
	Love the haircuts.
	Oh, thank you.
	Anyway, are we up for watching the Bo Video?
	Also, to all the ladies, would you bow to your man?
	Okay, I'll pull it up really quick.
	Nick, we got the bow video.
	We'll do the bow video really quick.
	Ladies, would you bow?
	Would you?
	Also, we need to hear more from you, so you're going to talk for like 10 minutes straight.
	There's no way.
	All right.
	All right, play this shit.
	Play it.
	Boom.
	W Nick.
	Why is Morgan getting up?
	Just pissed.
	Rude.
	She doesn't like the bow.
	Morgan hates the bow video.
	She had to get up.
	She's fucking leave.
	Like, fuck this bow.
	Wait, she bowed.
	Didn't she bow?
	Yeah, more than hateable reels.
	Look at this.
	Oh, my God.
	She's got my dinner.
	Is that a cocktail kill?
	What is that?
	She's actually very well trained.
	She's scoring.
	So, Brian actually does have a girlfriend.
	This is live footage, everybody.
	That's my penthouse, yeah.
	And your slave.
	Oh, ooh.
	Boom.
	Huge bow.
	Okay, so going around the table, would you bow?
	I paused the TTS briefly.
	I would let it go back.
	Would you bow to you?
	I'm talking to you about what?
	Do you remember that DM I sent you about bowing?
	I said I would bow to you only if I could blow you.
	I'm not bowing if I'm not blowing.
	Stop it.
	You are just bowing.
	I mean, I'm going to go down.
	My back might break, so I'm going to go ahead and get it.
	But you need to put a tree done while I'm down there.
	Didn't you say that you wanted to fallate me and Andrew?
	Oh my god.
	Not even your kids watching this.
	I don't like Andrew.
	Ew.
	He's like such a kill joint.
	He doesn't turn me up.
	Wait, would you bow for a man?
	Yeah, the man was treating me right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, deep voice.
	No, your boyfriend?
	Why would I do that?
	I don't get it.
	Like, that's your boyfriend shows you the video.
	He's like, I want you to greet me at the door with a bow.
	You're gonna show me a little bit.
	I keep on being funny and like knock yourself out.
	Like, knock yourself off.
	I wouldn't be out.
	No, he was serious about it.
	If he was being funny, then, like, let's say he wasn't being funny.
	Then no.
	Oh, hell no.
	I do not see myself bowing for a man.
	That's crazy.
	Okay, would you bow?
	For my man, of course.
	For my kid.
	For my men, yes.
	Of course.
	For my husband.
	Not boyfriend?
	No.
	Okay.
	Grace?
	No.
	Rude.
	No.
	No.
	Wow.
	Sorry.
	Why is it rude?
	Okay, wait.
	I don't need the attitude.
	Rude.
	Weren't you the one that proposed to me?
	Of course.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	When you moved the line with a king, quiet, Brian.
	That was a bit for the show.
	I still did it.
	Quiet, Brian.
	Wait, so you wouldn't bow?
	No.
	Why would I not?
	Didn't you say you would bow on the show?
	No.
	Or last time you were on?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	Did we watch the bow video?
	No.
	Yes.
	I thought it was weird.
	Or I thought it was funny.
	Hold up.
	But do you want a guy to get down on one knee and propose to you?
	Yes.
	Ooh.
	These girls want you to get down on one knee.
	Dude, kneeling.
	Kneel on.
	Tell her.
	Tell her.
	Kneeling is a way bigger ask than a bow.
	Okay, well, why am I bowing?
	Is that like how I'm greeting?
	Why is he knee?
	He just says, I want this shit.
	Why?
	Because he thinks it's because whatever your men said, usually it turns them on.
	It turns them on.
	It's like he wants the respect.
	Yeah, he wants to feel like he's like, what would he do for me?
	It's a little tiny gesture.
	You get on your knee to show her just like a bunch of people.
	This is what's crazy, boss.
	Have you ever had a woman?
	No.
	Have you ever hooked up with the guy same night?
	No.
	Come on.
	Be aware of that.
	I firehows too.
	Are you sure?
	I swear.
	Bloodhounds too?
	Yeah.
	Stop the cap.
	Oh!
	You are like.
	You're a fucking liar.
	I should play that noise.
	Yes.
	Amazing.
	What?
	Holy shit.
	I've played it like three times over 200 shows.
	I really should play that.
	That's better.
	Austin.
	That would be great.
	I'll let the T-Tescu come back.
	What's crazy to me, I've said this every single time, is that a girl won't bow for a man.
	But she'll let him blast on her face.
	Say it.
	Oh, you're a fan of the family.
	I will never let somebody do it.
	William Thomas donated $30.
	She'll let a guy play.
	Not a roast, but Grace.
	Besides, the couple L takes you had your bass TF.
	I can fix you, winking face.
	Goop.
	I didn't know I had L's.
	Okay, thank you so much.
	Thank you, Dr. E.
	I broke, floated in tears.
	I washed away by rivers into empty lakes.
	I found myself back home as a young child.
	At a time revealing forgotten memories.
	Reliving the wooden cabin on the highs.
	Pin you.
	Leninja Bear donated $30.
	But Dehoe, you're a savant.
	How was he smarter?
	A POS is a POS regardless of age.
	Grace, you're a hottie.
	I love the values and based view.
	Maddie is innate.
	Grace is a tenth.
	Boom-roasted mads.
	Oh, I'll tell you what.
	Curtis underscore interruptus donated $30.
	A man who wants a family does not go to the grocery store to look for expired eggs, nor does it make sense to go down on one knee for a non-virgin.
	Okay.
	Room 667 donated $30.
	From right to left, one, three, eight, three, ten, one, seven, nine.
	What was I?
	I'm not sure.
	I don't know the word.
	What percentage of physical attractiveness for men is effort and how much is love?
	Genetic, facial bone structure, eyes, height/slash frame, hairline.
	How much of your own beauty is genetic versus effort?
	50-50.
	Ulysses the Pagan donated $30.
	Grace was face until you admitted she loves pineapple pizza.
	Epic fail.
	Fail.
	Bro, pineapple belongs on pizza.
	I'm sorry.
	I agree.
	Pineapple is good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	What percentage of physical attacks?
	Can you find out what we're gonna put enough donating?
	What were they trying to say with that physical attractiveness?
	Room 667 donated $30.
	Are they trying to know what a reverse exorcism is?
	Either of them.
	That's when they're trying to get the priest out of the kid.
	Yikes.
	That's a yikes.
	Oh my god.
	What did you say?
	I didn't even hear Giovanni JD donated $30.
	Brian, please make every girl answer.
	What man would want them after this publication of their degeneracy?
	Even base Grace publicly displayed she has near five bodies at 19.
	Only Mex came out untarnished.
	Okay.
	Mex.
	Mexico.
	Is he calling you a Mexican?
	Okay.
	Make every girl answer.
	What man would want them?
	What man would want you guys after you guys publicized your degeneracy?
	I don't understand the question, Manny.
	If it's not you, that's fine.
	I'll pull this one back up.
	Mirko donated 30 dollari.
	What percentage of physical attractiveness for money's effort and how much is lack genetic?
	Oh, mamma mia.
	Facial bone structure, eyes, height, frame, hairline, punto, how much of your own beauty is genetic vs effort?
	50-50?
	50.
	Can you do it in Hebrew so I can understand?
	Medi, why weren't you the front line of defense during the flash?
	If you can go back, how would you have tackled her?
	O set okay.
	Now Hebrew, now Hebrew, please.
	I was traumatized.
	I didn't know what to do.
	Why not?
	I froze up.
	She froze.
	Please, can you do it in Hebrew?
	She froze.
	She watched the video.
	I was just like, wait for what?
	Froze.
	She glitched out.
	She was like, can you not do it in Hebrew so I can understand it too?
	All right, I'll do Hebrew.
	Hebrew, please.
	Yay!
	Shalom, Mistra.
	What she said.
	Okay.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	What?
	We need to hear from you.
	Tell us a dating story or whatever.
	A dating story?
	You got it for us.
	Oh, that.
	We can't really talk about that.
	The what?
	The unalive one.
	That's like my most interesting.
	That's like my most interesting story.
	There's no Hebrew.
	Which race is for us?
	Is that a race or a religion?
	It's gonna put it in Hebrew so I can understand it too.
	You're doing great.
	Can we have the girls rank the table by attractiveness from most attractive to least attractive, themselves included?
	You kind of sound like that, not going to lie.
	What happened?
	Why didn't they say it in English and say it in English?
	I don't understand how my friends are listening to me.
	You make me like it and you love me.
	Can we have the girls rank the table by attractiveness from most?
	Bro, you got, I don't know, man.
	That's a big ask there.
	That's a big ask.
	Did he pay an ass?
	George the Greek donated Shloshindolarim.
	It's morning here in Greece and I just woke up, so I will watch the show and replay.
	Glad to see that crazy lady, Desiree, is there flesh and dress?
	Hey, Greece.
	Wait, I'm gonna put it to Greek then, and I'll play that one.
	Find me out!
	I wanna go to Greece.
	Bucket list.
	Greek.
	She called you crazy.
	I got you.
	I'll give you a year-long crazy girl.
	Desiree, she called you crazy.
	That's fine.
	I mean, everybody's crazy in some way.
	I am crazy compared to most people.
	You're not crazy.
	I'm very wild.
	I'm very eccentric.
	It's being software.
	George de Greek donated Triada Dolaria.
	It's morning here in Greece, and I just woke up.
	So I will watch the show on Ripe A.
	I love the country.
	Glad to see that crazy lady.
	Desiree is there.
	Hopefully, she did not feel her dress distinct.
	It kind of sounds like Pakistanian.
	Totally.
	Can't you do accents?
	The next person gets Chinese.
	The next person gets Chinese.
	Then it's back to British.
	Quick.
	Next person gets Chinese.
	It's great.
	It's a great one.
	Fast, Oh, he picked it out.
	So, go ahead, say something.
	Cool.
	Did anyone watch the football games today?
	Like, genuinely?
	What the fuck?
	Oh, football.
	Okay, well, never mind.
	Why you gotta interrupt this homegirl over here?
	Go ahead.
	Tell us how you really feel.
	Tell us how you feel about the guys in Santa Barbara.
	Ooh, that's tough.
	I think that sounded like she got all.
	What the fuck?
	That was like ick.
	That was like ick on steroids, girl.
	We know how you really feel.
	Tell us how you really feel about these fucking Santa Barbara.
	Progressive women's guide to dating women.
	One told her man equals preference man.
	One younger woman equals predator woman.
	Don't date broke.
	Man, he calls preference.
	Man, don't date simple mothers.
	He calls immature.
	It's very true.
	Very well put.
	Men always get shamed for their preferences.
	No problems.
	Exactly.
	Woman wants an older man, preference.
	Man wants a younger woman, predator.
	Woman doesn't date, broke man, preference.
	Man don't date, single mothers, immature.
	That's good.
	The two standards are crazy.
	Women wants to date a tall guy, totally fine.
	Man doesn't want to date an obese woman.
	Rude.
	Wrong.
	How dare you not want to date Lizzo?
	Come on, give us something.
	What do you want?
	You go to like where you are.
	You're from LA, right?
	Yeah.
	What part?
	HP?
	Huntington Park.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	You think it's well known?
	I've never heard of HP.
	It's weird because every time I say HP, everybody's like Huntington Beach.
	And I'm like, bitch, where the hell did you hear the B?
	I don't know.
	Well, when you think HP, HP, HP is out of the sense of TV.
	367 donated 30 dollars wow that is that is amazing what That's deep.
	I feel more about the game.
	Guys, Desiree has not been roasted enough.
	You guys need a roast.
	We need a roast.
	I only came to get roasted.
	We need a roast on Morgan.
	She needs to be roasted.
	Maddie needs to be roasted.
	Oh, I'm sensitive this week.
	Oh, we roasted her.
	So, you can roast me.
	You can roast me.
	And then, wait, what happened?
	Roast me.
	I want to be roasted.
	Oh, can we get a sprinkler?
	Can we get a sprinkler?
	You know, sprinkler.
	Why not?
	Oh, my God.
	I want to get a little sprinkler actually.
	So, okay, going back to you.
	I asked her if she's gone to any parties and guys have done like been weird.
	Is that even needs to be a question?
	No, like what?
	Like, in what action?
	Brian's Lint Roller donated $30.
	No.
	I interrupt this podcast for a very important message.
	Thank you, bro.
	My sprinkler goes like this and comes back like this.
	You know, they're really bad.
	Vector donated $30.
	Thank you.
	Desiree, since you treat yourself and all other people as sex objects, you would quickly find that life unbearable if others treated you the same.
	My sprinkler goes like this.
	That's so funny.
	I'm literally.
	Russ Fox donated $30.
	I noticed that my paid TTS from the last Desiree and Andrew debate was intentionally edited out mid-episode.
	It was super weak and insulting as a viewer.
	And to everyone, posting anonymous is also weak.
	Can he just re-say it?
	Was it too naughty?
	No, it looks just like you're crazy and you don't control yourself.
	Well, I mean, you might have sent it in as a different username, but the only other one I see from Russ Fox was July 31st.
	What day did we do the last one?
	The debate was a little bit different.
	Roth Thundercore PSA donated $30.
	I had a pineapple on pizza tonight.
	Chicken Alfredo Bacon Pineapple FTW.
	Was it no top in shape?
	Great last expression.
	It was August 1st.
	Yeah, it was August 1st.
	It was Thursday.
	I don't see it, Russ.
	I don't see it, man.
	So I don't know what you're talking about.
	At least from this username, that's the only one I see.
	Desiree.
	What the Destin Elma?
	You know, marriage, I don't think marriage is my jam.
	Also, we don't.
	He wants to marry you?
	You should bring him.
	Desiree, can you read this?
	No, I don't have a.
	Desiree, you are not black.
	These poor white trash that live in the ghettos have a fat ass isn't blackness.
	My white sisters have big fucking big ass.
	My white sisters have fat asses with one and a half.
	I have a big fat ass.
	Desiree, you want to be roasted like a marshmallow?
	It would be great if we could.
	At least you in flames would be the last time I have to hear you screaming.
	True.
	Can you hear me?
	And I wouldn't have to do that.
	You know what I'm saying donated $30.
	20 years ago today, I asked my childhood sweetheart, my best friend and the most beautiful woman in the world to marry me.
	All three said no.
	All three?
	Cody Freeman donated $30.
	Aerofeld copter goes soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi soi Thank You I don't know why Jimmy donated $30.
	They aren't obese, they are too healthy, lol.
	Brian, you need a priest, BC.
	Some of these digits really need it.
	Desiree, you really need help.
	You all watch out, she samenso.
	She would assault anyone.
	Uh, word?
	Okay, thank you.
	Psychopath donated $30.
	I would think anyone who needs to tell people they're a genius is not a genius, but I'm no genius.
	That was a good one.
	That was a good one.
	That's it, that's how you do it.
	I just tell people.
	Devon Jackson donated $30.
	Crazy Desiree looks like she can bite through the medal of honor that she never earned.
	Okay.
	I mean, three kids.
	Come on.
	I birthed them all naturally.
	Doesn't that give me something?
	Purple heart or something?
	What?
	Don't I get a purple heart for motherhood?
	I mean, Jesus.
	I shouldn't even have to bring it up.
	I mean, I should just get respect as a fucking mother, but I don't.
	So it's like we go around making up all these fucking other titles.
	Because if I say I've been a mother, everybody's like, oh, who are you?
	What opinion do you have about anything?
	You've just been a mother.
	You're nothing.
	And it's stupid.
	It gives a false impression that I've just been sitting at home, like, not reading and not, you know, continuing my education when I have.
	So I bring in other things.
	And you're right.
	I'm over it.
	I never brought that up.
	$69 donated $30.69.
	Quick question for the panel.
	I'm a five-tenths, decent paying job, socially awkward, and not a lot of friends.
	How cooked am I?
	Are you fucking awkward?
	What is he trying to do?
	You're cooked, bro.
	What does that mean?
	You're cooked.
	You gotta become a cookie.
	Like just a coach.
	You gotta be a passport, bro.
	You gotta move to Thailand or something.
	There's a lid for every pot.
	Come on.
	I mean, if he's a decent guy, I'm sure you can do it.
	You're cooked.
	It's over, bro.
	It's over.
	I think there's hope.
	I think there's hope.
	Work on your healthy relationship skills.
	You'd be fine.
	There's also fat chicks.
	Just kidding.
	That's actually true, though, though.
	$667 donated $30.
	Your butt is so fat that you wouldn't even fit in the Vatican for the first time.
	That is the best one ever.
	I love that one.
	That's my favorite.
	I love you.
	You're my favorite.
	Did you actually read what they said?
	That was hilarious, dude.
	Hilarious.
	That's fucking hilarious.
	I love that shit.
	Don't try to find sense in the nonsense.
	That was some good humor.
	Come on.
	My son would tell me something like that, and I'd be like, you're so fucking smart.
	Your son would talk about your husband.
	Like, he has a fucking smart sense of humor.
	I hope he doesn't do having sex.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay.
	God forbid your child ever walked in on you having sex with your husband.
	I never have sex in the house.
	Well, because you don't have a husband, but if you had a husband, would you wait until your children were all like out of the house?
	I was locking the door and stop being so fucking stupid.
	Many, many cultures in the world don't have all these different covers with locks like we do.
	They all live in the same shack.
	One bedroom shack.
	She denied her.
	To answer you, honestly, I'm too tired.
	Grace and Mexican girl are the only ones salvageable.
	IDF is based but still denies Christ.
	To table.
	I don't deny that.
	Get some help.
	It's been a bit since my last comment.
	I didn't know what to say or when.
	This episode made me consider doing my best Kirk Cobain impersonation.
	I don't deny Christ.
	I just have a different job.
	Thank you way off base.
	Thank you, everybody else, for the TTSs.
	There's a few more coming through.
	Leninja Bear donated $30.
	Day-hoe, quit stating the weight of your ash as your IQ.
	Grace, we can have pineapple pizza and watch Rick and Morty.
	Morgan, 1996 called.
	They want their marquee mark backwards.
	Hat back.
	Girl, you are so beautiful and you look so cute.
	I do like that.
	White boy summer.
	I like, you have to show them it says white boy fox summer.
	I feel like they do.
	I feel like she just said.
	The 900 actual.
	Do you guys think pineapple belongs on pizza?
	As long as you've got to give it a little bit of a bad thing.
	Hold on, we need to let her speak.
	We've heard no words from her tonight.
	You gotta say something.
	Say your name so they know your name.
	What did you call you?
	The most base person today was the Jewish woman.
	I was expecting her to be a progressive white genocide.
	Whoa.
	Why genocide?
	Okay, I got sorry.
	I got bragged.
	The only Jews who are progressive genocide is the one in America and Israel.
	It's completely different.
	Big Sass Energy donated $30.
	Thank you, Big Sass.
	You're base Tay F.
	A total babe.
	Let's run away and start our own country together.
	We'll together imprison Desiree to the loony bin.
	Facts.
	Know what I'm I and donated $30.
	Who can drink 30 liters of petrol and not get sick?
	Barry can.
	Okay.
	Good for Joe.
	Why did you say that they expected me to be a wat again?
	I think Brian wanted to say Brian wanted to skip it.
	Oh, okay.
	It was too contrary.
	Okay, can you speak or something?
	I don't know.
	Go ahead.
	This is tell us to something dating.
	Okay.
	I think I was like.
	Honestly, I was like 14.
	Christ or Litania donated $30.
	Wait, is this a matter of time?
	Why does Sky Daddy enable young people?
	I want to hear your fucking idea.
	Doesn't he know a woman doesn't finish developing until 25?
	Almost done.
	Why is he enable young women to conceive?
	Doesn't he know a woman doesn't finish developing?
	Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
	That's actually a really good argument, Crystal.
	What he said, here, hold on.
	I'll pull it back up one more time.
	Christ Orlitania donated $30.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Why does Sky Daddy enable young women to conceive?
	Doesn't he know a woman doesn't finish developing until 25?
	Is it a good argument, though?
	I think it's good because Desire's head has been held in the toilet for too long.
	That's why she's directed because women, like young girls, can get pregnant.
	So I'm like.
	Yeah, but she would have to be getting a zeal for a while.
	I don't know if it's a bigger her to start her period.
	I don't know if it's a good argument.
	I'm just saying, all abuse and like ridiculousness aside, technically, once a girl starts her period and it raises her.
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	Thank you.
	Appreciate it, man.
	I'm going to replay Coitis Interruptus because I don't think we really got that, but thank you, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, we're.
	Wait.
	Oh, my God.
	Why?
	Sorry.
	Are we lagging?
	I don't know why it's not coming in.
	Okay.
	Did the one from Not Naviz come in?
	Oh, I don't know.
	That's so weird.
	Nave's donated $30.
	Been watching for a few months.
	She's on again and she's based as hell.
	Can't believe you brought Desieri on again after that 1v1 last time.
	Crazy woman.
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	Curtis underscore interruptus donated $30.
	Desire's head has been held in that oile for too long.
	That's why she is so stupid.
	Damn, what the f?
	Okay.
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	Thank you, Big Sass.
	Imagine claiming to have a Nike of 140 and having your head shoved in a toilet while being effed in the A.
	Oh, man.
	Smart baby girl.
	I would have gotten really punished if I didn't do it.
	So I did it.
	Oh my god.
	I'm gonna hear something.
	Hold on.
	So, last call, guys.
	Why did you talk about it in public?
	Here, I'll let this one go.
	I'm kinky.
	I'm not ashamed of that.
	I don't care.
	Not everybody has a vanilla sexuality.
	Brian, huge.
	Guys, have some class.
	Just wanted to support the show.
	I hope everyone on the panel has a great night.
	Yo, Alpha Smasher.
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	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
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	Appreciate it, man.
	Guys, last call on the TTS.
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	Get them in, get them in, and then we're going to wrap up the show here.
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	As a virgin waiting for marriage, I find no positive to dating women my age.
	You are all clueless to what men like me want.
	Modesty is what makes women valuable, and you all blow it early, literally.
	Blow Hanky donated $30.
	Desiree, if you're going to be blowing people, you should really disclose that your head has been a toilet.
	I did.
	All of the world knows now on the internet.
	And you should be ashamed of that deeply.
	Oh, my God.
	Ninja Bear donated $30.
	Bob has no arms.
	Knock, knock.
	Who's there?
	Obviously, not fucking Bob.
	That was worth it.
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	Yeah, Grace is Christian.
	I literally went to church this morning.
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	Thank you, Giovanni.
	We have.
	Oh, I'm not getting this for some reason.
	One sec, guys.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	I'm going to pause the TTS.
	So if you want to actually have a few words here before we wrap the show.
	Me?
	Oh, me?
	Yeah.
	To the what?
	The pregnant one?
	Oh.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hold on.
	Aaron Chambers.
	Shout out from Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
	Been a minute, Brian.
	I think the 19-year-old to your left and the second girl to your left have made the most sense tonight.
	You women are strong and have proven that age doesn't equal IQ.
	Girl in glasses is lost.
	Aaron Chambers, thank you for the super chat, man.
	Much appreciated.
	And then Kat D. Desiree is awesomely sane.
	I don't understand the hate.
	Oh, thank you.
	She's a little bit.
	Well, I mean, I don't mind the hate.
	I don't know if Sane and Desiree can be.
	I call myself unsane.
	I call myself unsane.
	Thank you for the super chat, though.
	Appreciate it.
	Unsane.
	Appreciate it.
	Guys, last call on the TTS is.
	I pause it temporarily if you want.
	Send them in and then we'll play it just before we wrap up the show.
	Take it away.
	Wow, thanks.
	I guess, I guess, crazy story in SB would be: I was at a party, and some guy, like, we were dancing, blah, blah, blah.
	And he comes up to me.
	He's like, oh, like, can you believe that I got my mom pregnant?
	What?
	And then I was like, okay, like, I think you're like full of BS, whatever.
	And it was fine.
	But then he showed me a picture.
	Like that.
	What?
	Like of his mom.
	A very vulgar picture of him actually doing that to his mom.
	And then he showed me the fact that he had like an actual like little scan of like the baby.
	That's how we're gonna end tonight.
	It's like it's his brother and his it was freaking crazy.
	It's illegal.
	Is it actually real?
	No, I swear to God.
	Was that like a drink?
	Was that actually his mom or was that older woman?
	No, he's helping with his name.
	Bro, must have been so drunk.
	Like, that's crazy.
	No, I swear to you that I think it's a good idea.
	So either way, I had a client once that was like he was the son and he was explaining, basically describing to me his mother being like a predator against him.
	And he was thinking it was his fault.
	And I was like, at first I tried to help him see, like, I mean, he was an adult, so I couldn't, like, say one way or the other as a tech therapist, but I was like trying to encourage him to see the big picture that she was the older one.
	She was his mother.
	It was her fault, like, that this was so inappropriate.
	But I had to, like, end the counseling relationship because it was so triggering to me as a mother.
	I was like, I can't even give you.
	I can't even give you like honestly unbiased.
	So going back to you.
	Are there any, I mean, aside from like interesting dating anecdotes, are there actually any dating topics you have thoughts on at all?
	No.
	You don't have any opinions on dating?
	Honestly, I gave up.
	I'm done with that.
	So young people.
	I'm done for now.
	I'm still young enough.
	I have zero opinions now.
	So why did you give up?
	Because I feel like people are age.
	Hold on, I'll just.
	Okay.
	Let me just do it.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	Because I feel like people are age right now.
	I mean, I guess guys my age, I don't know.
	I feel like, I guess kind of going back, but like, I feel like I haven't found like that, like, I guess, like common ground of where, like, I want to stand with somebody else.
	So it's like, if I'm going to hear crap from a man who's just going to like talk all this shit about like this, oh, sorry, this, this, and that, it's like, I don't know, like, I'd rather have values that I have kind of like related to the fact that like I'm going to spend the life, the rest of my life with a man who's going to have like these similar like values in place as well.
	And so what do you think the men that you've tried to date, what do you think the men aren't getting like from me?
	No, like what, what, what is the opposite sex not getting about women?
	I feel shit.
	Honestly, I don't know how to answer your question.
	Okay.
	So I'm going to give it the women give it away.
	They just, yeah.
	Well, I'd like to hear her talk if you don't mind.
	Because it's like, I mean, sorry.
	I mean, I guess it is very, I mean, especially like being here at UCSB, I feel like it just kind of like sucks the fact that like, I mean, a lot of guys our age just kind of want to like huck up and just they don't really want to have like a good like relationship where it's like what it yeah, like how um, she's saying like hit it and quit it and it's like what's the whole freaking point of doing all that crap?
	Like I get, I get it.
	I'm 20, like I'm still small, like I'm still young, blah blah.
	But it's like if I already have, like these certain values in place in my life at this age, I would want a man who would have those similar values at the same time.
	And if you can't have that, then that's not my problem.
	But like you're at the same age as I am and I get it, like I feel like I might be a little bit more mature, Most like individuals, or like most guys, I guess, since we're talking about that topic, and I feel like they don't really get that either.
	And then I feel like all they kind of care about is like going to parties, doing this, smoking, doing whatever the hell they want to freaking do.
	Instead of like, I don't know, talk to me about something like that intrigues me.
	Like, I don't know, like, are you investing your money in like stocks?
	I don't know.
	Like, talk to me something like worthy about your freaking life.
	Like, women want to be intellectually stimulated, not just like this fuckboy energy.
	We want to have conversations.
	We do.
	We want to know that they have goals.
	They have.
	Because how do you know a man's business?
	This is coming from you.
	Who says the world is revolved around sex?
	At my point in life, like I have hustled my whole fucking life.
	I've educated myself.
	I've accomplished many things.
	So at this point, I've hit them full circle to understanding what I want.
	I'm not trying to take away away from that.
	Here, I'm going to ask her a couple more questions.
	We'll let the TTS come through and we will wrap the show.
	What kind of men do you like?
	That's hard.
	What's your type?
	Yeah, like what's your type?
	What's your type?
	Like, you want characteristics, like tall, funny, all that crap.
	What's your type?
	Like, looks and then personality.
	Looks, I guess.
	I don't really like, I mean, yes, looks play, like, I won't lie, like, looks play, like, a huge role in, like, whether you like a guy or not.
	So, I guess I would say, like, I don't really care about the height, so I guess it's like, whatever.
	I guess it's an added bonus if you get a tall guy, so personally, okay, yeah, like, if he's tall, then yes, okay, like, that's my type.
	But then, if you get, like, I don't know, like, damn, curly 40.
	Hold on, hold on, let her speak.
	Why does that matter?
	Just no, it's funny.
	Just let her go, let her speak.
	But shit, I lost my train of thought.
	But, um, you don't care about like I don't really care about the height, I don't really care about the looks like that much.
	Like, yes, if you have a nice eye color, I guess dimples, I can say that dimples.
	If you have dimples, that's like a plus 10 little plus 10 points.
	And what about personality traits?
	Personality traits, if you like to read, I guess.
	If you like to read like books, not like weird books, I don't know.
	Do you prefer more masculine men or feminine men?
	Ooh, like in between.
	Like, I feel like there's like, I guess, like, yes, I would want a masculine man, but like, I wouldn't mind like if he had feminine like characteristics either, because I feel like both men, both men and women carry both masculine and feminine traits at the same time.
	Just some men show more feminine traits, but like on my end, like a masculine trait would be much, much, much better if like it wasn't too like feminine.
	Would you want a guy to pay for first date?
	Yeah, if he's asking me out to go out on a date, yeah.
	Yeah, how would you react if the guy uh you went out on the date and he was like, So can we split it?
	How would you react?
	I'll do it.
	Oh, dear God, that's fine.
	If you want to do it like that, I won't see you ever again.
	Like, that's fine.
	Like, I'll spit it with you.
	But it's like, why are you, what was the decision making of you wanting to split the check?
	Wait, so let's do a roleplay here.
	So, okay, you and me are on a date.
	Okay.
	And the waiter's like, the waiter's like, hope you guys enjoyed your meal.
	Who's anybody a fucking waiter here?
	Can somebody roleplay this shit for us?
	Okay, me and her on a date here.
	Go, Grace.
	You're the waiter.
	Hi, guys.
	I hope you guys enjoyed your evening.
	Here's the check whenever you guys are ready.
	Just gonna leave it right there.
	There you go.
	How's that?
	It was good.
	Perfect.
	You got.
	You got it?
	Oh, no.
	Excuse me, can we get...
	You got it.
	Excuse me, miss.
	Can we get two checks, please?
	Can we get two checks?
	You throw out two checks.
	Yeah, two checks.
	Two checks, please.
	Sorry.
	Sorry, sorry.
	What are we splitting?
	What are we splitting?
	Dinner.
	Why two checks?
	Why two checks?
	Because he just said he don't want to pay for you.
	That's the first date.
	Oh, no, I just thought you were feminist.
	Oh, no.
	No.
	Oh, shit.
	That's not a good thing.
	That's when you're going to leave.
	But you don't want.
	Look.
	On the first date.
	Look.
	Listen, I believe in equality.
	I believe in equality.
	That's fine.
	Okay, that's fine.
	I'm just saying, like, on the first date basis, since you said that we're splitting the check.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's fine.
	We can split the check.
	We can do it.
	It's okay.
	Yeah.
	You can do whatever you go damn please on that freaking check.
	I'll pay for my half.
	That's fine.
	After that, okay, goodbye.
	I won't ever see you again.
	That's okay.
	I thought we were still role-playing.
	Or that's what I'm saying.
	Oh, I can tell you that.
	If you want me to, on the first date, I have to.
	Let's role play it.
	Okay, so yeah, two checks, please.
	Wait, I thought that's what we were still doing.
	I'm telling you this.
	Oh, I thought you were more like having the conversation from like.
	If you were on the first date, would you be telling him this?
	Would you be saying that?
	If I came in, here guys, here's your check.
	Honestly, I would have considered it, but I feel like I would have just paid the check.
	I would have just paid my half and then I would have just left.
	Yeah.
	That's so valid.
	Like, what am I supposed to do with that?
	Okay.
	That's so valid.
	All right, final question.
	Final question.
	That's what I would do.
	So you said that you're like struggling to find like long-term relationship, right?
	Sure.
	Because like guys don't want to get commitment.
	Sure.
	So what do you bring to the table in a relationship?
	What do I bring to the table?
	I don't know if I should really.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Guys, I know it's late here.
	She's speaking.
	It's disrespectful and rude for you guys to be like making faces and gesturing and doing all this while she's speaking.
	She's not had a lot of time to speak.
	You three have had way more time to speak than her.
	You can show her and frankly the podcast a little respect here by not, oh my goodness, can you be over here?
	You can show her a little respect here.
	So I'll add that I did not mind speaking.
	Also, I'll just add to this.
	I don't get why like y'all probably have experienced partying, staying out till 1, 2, 3, 4 a.m.
	And you're tired.
	Bro, suck it up.
	You look terrible on camera.
	Like, uh.
	Bro, it's like the level of entitlement is crazy.
	Just like, suck it up.
	We're about to wrap.
	Go ahead.
	Sorry, what was your question again?
	What'd you Bring to the table?
	Oh, I feel like that's kind of hard just because I feel like I mean, what I would bring to the table is I know that I'm financially responsible, so I feel like giving that to the table is really important in a relationship, like even being my age.
	And then I feel like also like the emotional side and like intelligence of it, it's like really important, also, just because like I'm not just gonna like sit here and like not be able to like talk to you and like listen to you and like be all this.
	Like, what's the whole point of being in a relationship?
	You can't talk to your partner and talk about like emotional things or talk about like things when things get serious.
	Like, there's a point where like I'll give you like that funny side of me, but then I'll give you like, okay, shit serious.
	Okay, now let's get fucking serious and like talk about this shit.
	But like, some people can't give you that.
	And it's like, it's all fun and games, but then when shit gets serious and turns sideways, they're just gonna leave you out to like in the freaking ditch.
	And I won't do that.
	And if like that's beautiful.
	Okay, I'm gonna let these TTSs come through, then we're gonna wrap the show.
	There's about 10.
	The dumb bimbo that said she deserved a purple heart for being a mother is dumb as blank, straight disrespectful to the service members who have been through that and have received it.
	Wait, did you actually say you deserve a purple heart?
	Yes, she did.
	Yeah.
	Earlier?
	Purple heart.
	Yes, yes, she did.
	No, she said because she had three kids, Desiree said she deserved a purple heart.
	Really?
	It was insane.
	I can't believe he wants to hear that.
	How about this for a purple heart?
	Fucking US military just dropped that shit on him, Desiree.
	All right.
	You're going to just respond or honestly.
	I don't agree that we even need war or the military.
	Law Paladins donated $30.
	Put her head in the toilet and lay her in the agent and it's all in good fun.
	But be careful not to take her to the bank teller and have her sign her own name.
	That's abuse.
	That's abuse.
	Thank you, Law Paladin.
	Appreciate it.
	Desiree is a trash blank blank that is about to hey, come on.
	A lost cause not worth it.
	Kenny, be nice, Kenny.
	All right.
	God damn, man.
	He wants me out of life.
	Hey, it's the roast section.
	It's the roast section.
	No, he doesn't want that.
	That's what he does.
	Sons of Liberty donated $30.
	I was a racist.
	I was extremely disappointed a racist was given a race.
	Big L for whatever.
	The election is for socialism or liberty.
	Trump 2024.
	Okay.
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	Desiree, you're the predator mother.
	You absolute lunatic.
	Also, Brian is never going to date you.
	His befriend.
	Yo, big sass energy.
	Thank you guys.
	We've got about seven more coming.
	11 donated $29.99.
	Big fan of the show.
	Brian, would you be open to the possibility of viewers donating and then submitting selfies for a rating from the panel in future streams?
	Well, so we actually offered this as a tier and we had it in the description for over 100 shows.
	Nobody ever submitted their Instagram to be reviewed, so I just removed it as an option.
	I think, I don't know what we, it was like a couple hundred bucks or something.
	I forgot, 300, 400, something like that.
	But nobody took it up, so I just removed it as a tier.
	But only Puffy Vegas banana.
	Last call 89 donated $30.
	You all need to get on whatever hair products Red is using in the corner.
	Literally, you're having a hair?
	Thank you.
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	By the way, Puffy Vegas, can we get some RIPs in the chat?
	If you're an OG whatever supporter, this guy.
	RIP, Puffy Vegas.
	Somebody, can you guys DM this guy and tell him that he needs to come back?
	I'm sure he's been getting a lot of people.
	Like donated $30, but like.
	And like.
	I don't know.
	Like.
	Like?
	You do say like a lot.
	It's an LA thing.
	It's an LA thing.
	Yeah.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	Stop the cap.
	I like a guy who reads.
	Never once in the history of mankind has a man gotten late because he read a book.
	It is good if a man is smart, but it doesn't make women aroused.
	Be honest.
	Really?
	Into the microphone again.
	I mean, I mean, okay.
	I think it's so funny.
	Like, okay, like, yeah, like, whatever.
	Well, go ahead, say it, say, say.
	Go ahead, say it, say it, say, say it.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Okay, he's right.
	But I would say, like, yes, it sometimes does incline.
	I'm looking at your fingers.
	Sorry, say, say, say, say, that's all.
	I was just counting how many times you're going to say that.
	Okay.
	Like, wait, would you date a guy from Compton?
	Oh, no.
	Why not?
	Wait, would I date a guy from Compton?
	Oh.
	Okay, all right.
	My own clarity donated $30.
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	Last call, guys.
	How many times are you going to say like?
	Two, they should be smacked for thinking she deserves a purple heart.
	Three, the lady in blue is the most beautiful lady on the show.
	Four, LA is trash.
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	Like, if you want to learn how to debate, like, I can teach you how to own anyone in the comments section.
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	Okay.
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	It's the roast.
	I love you all.
	It's the roast.
	We are just joking around.
	All right.
	I think that's it.
	If you want, you can get a few last ones in, but I'm going to wrap the show here.
	Okay, guys.
	GG.
	Actually, last thing.
	I can't pull it up, but can you guys actually wait?
	Desmond, do you know what is on this monitor?
	Is it Twitch?
	This one?
	No, the other monitor?
	Is it Twitch or no?
	Oh, it's just about the video.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Never mind that.
	But guys, go to twitch.tv.
	I'm not able to pull it up.
	Twitch.tv slash effort drops apologies prime sub before you head out.
	I am going to do a raid over there on Twitch.
	I'm going to raid Frost Adamas on Twitch.
	We're not going to be able to pull it up, but those of you who are on Twitch, we will do a raid and tell him to come be on the show, I guess, or whatever.
	Let's see.
	A couple things here, guys.
	Okay, if you want, oh, like, guys, like the video on your way out if you can.
	Drop a like on the video.
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	Also, hashtag Big Labia Matter.
	If you want, you can get your last one in.
	GG, well played to the panel.
	Well played.
	Last call.
	Like I said, hit the like button.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You guys could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who so generously and graciously super chats donates and supports the show.
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	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you guys so much.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Got a really good show on Tuesday.
	We have a pretty famous, pretty famous comedian, stand-up comedian coming on Tuesday.
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	Let me just double-check here.
	So 07s in the chat, guys.
	Let me let these one come through.
	Holy shit, I was about.
	Oh my god, I was about to.
	Oh my god.
	Oh, good thing I paused that shit.
	I almost let some crazy chat come through.
	Woo!
	Okay, that would have been bad.
	Sorry, Demon Slayer, but little, little here, Grace.
	Do you think I should let that one come through?
	Don't read it, but no.
	But Demon Slayer, can you reword it?
	No.
	No, I can't reword it in any kind of way.
	Don't worry about it.
	Don't worry about it.
	Okay, anyways, that's it for 07s in the chat, guys.
	07s in the chat.
	Like the video on your way out.
	I'm going to do raid.
	Those of you watching on Twitch, 07s in the chat.
	I'm raiding Frost Domis right now.
	Raid going out now.
	Boom.
	Oh, sorry, 10-second delay on that.
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	Drop us a follow and a prime sub if you're watching.
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	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	Raid going out.
	And then finally, and then by the way, Desmond, I'll stop all the things on the stream, okay?
	So you don't worry about anything.
	Yeah, you don't worry about anything.
	Okay.
	Sit there and look pretty.
	Yep, sit there and look pretty, Desmond.
	And I'm pretty sure I just want to double check.
	Oh, the last thing.
	Okay, Vic.
	Oh, bro.
	Run back.
	I'll give you 30 seconds.
	This was the last, I just, for the last show note here.
	All right.
	Vic, you said that there's three tiers of pretty privilege.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, really quick.
	Really quick.
	Three tiers.
	So the bottom tier, pretty privilege, is like the entry level where you kind of just get like basic, you know, halo effects, some free things.
	And that's where like most girls are a little bit above average, pretty fall.
	And then the second tier is a little bit a step above that.
	You're starting to get a lot more attention.
	You're starting to get a lot more privileges than you would.
	And those are probably like the prettiest girls that you'll see on a day-to-day basis in real life.
	And then the top tier is people who can actually really just live their life off of their looks, you know, the prettiest people that exist on this planet.
	And that's the top.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you have it, folks.
	There you have it.
	There you have it.
	Okay.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a fantastic night.
	And we will see you guys.
	We'll see you guys on Tuesday.
	Good night, guys.

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