Whatever Podcast - She Is A TEN?! BETTER Looking At 30/40+?! Young Andrew Wilson REVEAL?! (GIGACHAD)

July 22, 2024 - Whatever Podcast

07:16:55

She Is A TEN?! BETTER Looking At 30/40+?! Young Andrew Wilson REVEAL?! (GIGACHAD) | Dating Talk #180

Dating Talk is LIVE on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠youtube.com/whatever
[Read More]

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California.
	Every Sunday and Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific, a few quick announcements.
	This podcast is viewer-supported, heavy YouTube demonetization, so please consider donating through Streamlabs instead of super chatting as YouTube takes a brutal 30% cut.
	So if you super chat 100, YouTube takes 30.
	If you donate 100, Streamlabs only takes 30.
	Streamlabs.com/slash whatever.
	Link is in the description.
	We do prioritize messages that are made via Streamlabs.
	If you want to interact nearly instantly with us and weigh in on the conversation, consider sending a TTS text-to-speech message.
	For the first 30 minutes or so of the show, the TTS will be $69.
	$200, you got to hide that.
	$200 and up triggers TTS thereafter.
	TTS is via Streamlabs only.
	If your chat or TTS is too toxic, we reserve the right to skip it.
	Please see the description for all other triggers and full details.
	We have channel memberships.
	To become a member, hit the join button.
	Tier one is just $5 a month.
	We're also live on Twitch right now.
	Go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime sub if you have one.
	If you have Amazon Prime, you can link it to your Twitch.
	It's a quick, free, easy way to support the show every single month.
	And it's been 16 hours since we've had Prime.
	Probably bugged.
	If somebody can do a little test, test out Twitch Prime in the chat.
	We've got merch, shop.whatever.com.
	I'm wearing our whatever hoodie.
	If you like it, get yourself one.
	Follow us on Instagram at whatever.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara.
	Follow me on Instagram, BD underscore Atlas.
	Check out my nonprofit movement, Big Labia Matter, or BLM for short.
	If you can't catch the full shows, we have Eclipse channel.
	Link is in the description.
	We have a private Patreon members only Discord, discord.gg.
	Pull up the kicks, quits, fails tab.
	Yeah, scroll it up a bit.
	Yeah, I posted like five more of these.
	So discord.gg slash whatever.
	Last thing, we had some haters review bomb us on Spotify and Apple Music.
	So if you guys can rate us, five stars.
	And yeah, that's pretty much it.
	Also, Spotify, too.
	Anyways, disclaimer, the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
	With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please, tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hello there.
	My name is Diana.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm now a student here at UCSB.
	I major in drama and econ, but I'm originally from Russia.
	All right.
	How long did you live in Russia for?
	For the most of my life, I guess.
	So are you like an international student?
	Okay.
	So you moved here to go to UCSB?
	Yeah.
	And so you did your freshman year at UCSB?
	Okay, cool.
	That's right.
	And you weren't in the States before that?
	No.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	I'm assuming you speak Russian then.
	All right, cool.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Alyssa.
	I am 23.
	I'm from San Merdino.
	And my occupation is I am a training manager for a social emotional learning-based company.
	Oh, sorry, Social Motion?
	Social-emotional learning-based company.
	It's like a newer way to talk about emotions, I guess you can say.
	Is it like, do you own it or you work for them?
	No, I'm a training manager there.
	Okay.
	So like what precisely does that mean?
	So I train a bunch of adults how to go into schools and mentor kids.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My name's Victoria.
	I'm from Melbourne, Australia.
	I'm 26 years old, and I do activism and ministry work full-time.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Did you say activism work?
	Yep.
	What kind of activism?
	I used to recruit and sell girls on OnlyFans, and now I actually educate people on the dangers of this oversexualized culture, and I also educate people on basically the ecosystem that runs behind things like OnlyFans to be able to target young women and young men.
	So you were a pimp, essentially?
	Yep, I was a new age pimp, absolutely, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And you said you do activism and ministry.
	Correct.
	What do you mean by ministry?
	So I go to churches as well and I talk about my testimony and I also educate them on how to be able to combat this problem in churches.
	I see, okay.
	And then in your pre-show notes, you said you're responsible for managing and growing the accounts of the OF girls.
	I imagine you did this in conjunction with an OnlyFans management company, is that correct?
	Yep.
	And were you, in terms of your duties, were you like a typer or chatter, as they're called?
	No, so the chatters we would offset, they were from third world countries.
	Ours were from the Philippines.
	From the Philippines, okay.
	And how many, when you used to do this for work, did you work for multiple companies or was it just?
	No, so I actually helped to start and build an agency back home.
	I see, okay.
	Yeah.
	How big was it?
	Is it?
	I wouldn't be able to tell you now.
	I've not been in it for about a year.
	Back then, it was the biggest one in Australia.
	How many, I guess, clients did you guys have?
	24.
	24.
	Okay.
	And of the 24, would you say all of them had like a typer, chatter, that sort of thing?
	Yep, so every single one needed to have a chatter on the account 24-7.
	And then, but would a lot of the accounts that I've seen on OnlyFans, they will indicate that it's them talking.
	Is that pretty common?
	The girls will say, talk to me, but it's actually some male in the Philippines who are talking about them essentially.
	Yeah, and so we train them as well.
	And we have this thing called a brief so they can best represent the girl and they pretend to be the girl.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Cool, cool.
	Now you're not doing that.
	Now I'm not doing that.
	Absolutely not.
	You're speaking against it.
	Yeah, correct.
	You're speaking against it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Ashley Paola.
	I'm 29 years old.
	I'm from the Inland Empire.
	I'm in sales and marketing and also ministry.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name is Michaela.
	I'm 28.
	I'm from Seattle.
	I have a YouTube channel.
	I talk about watches, style, elegance, stuff like that.
	And I own a cafe.
	All right.
	Welcome, welcome.
	Thank you.
	Hi, my name's Carly.
	I am 27 years old, and I'm an electrical technician for Boeing.
	All right.
	Electrical technician for Boeing.
	They're in the news recently.
	Yes, they were.
	Whoa, what the f?
	Whoa, whoa, what the?
	True color.
	What was that?
	Yeah, true colour.
	What was that?
	I liked that.
	That was cool.
	All right.
	You're an electrical technician for Boeing.
	And so you're working, you're doing maintenance on the airplanes?
	I do the electrical harnesses for the Apaches.
	Oh, the Apaches?
	Yes.
	So military applications.
	Yes.
	I see.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You mean the wire harness systems?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	So these are, if I remember correctly, these are loomed-in systems that run throughout the entire helicopter.
	Eventually, yes.
	I build them on a table and then they get moved out and stuffed into the body of the ship.
	So this is a centerful junction box that has two lines coming off of both ends?
	No, because I do the really big harnesses.
	So it's about the size of a 25-seated table.
	Oh, nice.
	Yeah.
	Madison?
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I work for the Whatever Podcast and I'm a full-time student at Santa Barbara City College studying communication.
	I'm Morgan.
	I'm 18.
	I go to SPCC studying political science.
	All right, welcome everybody.
	So, going, oh, wait, I always forget.
	All right, guest of honor.
	Andrew, why don't you introduce yourself for us?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson, the host of The Crucible.
	It's the fastest growing debate YouTube channel, to my knowledge, on YouTube.
	I'm a political analyst, political satirist, and I like to engage in debates for fun as well.
	So glad to see all of you here.
	Hope we have a good show.
	All right.
	Welcome, Andrew.
	Welcome.
	Wait, wait, I remember two of you.
	I remember two of you on this.
	I remember two of you giving me some trouble on this panel before.
	It's called coming back to me.
	All coming back to me.
	Well, we'll get into it, certainly.
	So going around the table once more, what's your current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polykill, sex cult, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	So I'm in a relationship.
	We're together for four months now.
	And before that, I've been single for like two years probably.
	Okay.
	Is he also a student?
	Yeah, he is.
	Okay.
	Before that, though, you were single for two years, you said.
	Is this your longest relationship?
	No, my longest one was actually my first one.
	We were together for three years.
	I'm assuming that's back in Russia?
	Yeah.
	You speak very good English.
	I'm assuming you studied English in the.
	Yeah, I do study.
	I did study English in Russia.
	Okay.
	What city did you grow up in, Moscow?
	In Moscow, yeah, that's correct.
	And you call this your boyfriend, the current guy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Four months.
	Officially, yeah.
	Okay.
	But before that, you were single for two years.
	So for most of your freshman year then at UCSB you were single for most of it.
	Okay.
	Did you go out and party or do any of that sort of thing?
	I did.
	Yeah, I did have like, I did go out on Del Playa a couple times.
	A couple times?
	Yeah.
	But yeah, I guess it didn't end up in a relationship.
	You don't have a Russian accent.
	It's like a bit, it sounds British.
	Oh my god, thank you.
	A little bit.
	I'm working on that.
	Well, actually, I detected a little, but I guess quick question on this.
	Since you've dated in Russia, and you've also dated in the U.S., differences, thoughts?
	Wow.
	Well, so my current boyfriend, he's originally from Russia too, but he lives in Spain right now.
	Your current boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, so it's long distance?
	No, he studies here, but I mean, he's from Spain.
	Like, his family is in Spain, so for summer, he goes to Spain and to Russia.
	Right, okay.
	Yeah, but the difference is, I don't know, it's like not that much difference because I have a type, you know?
	And I'm trying to look for the same qualities I would look in Russia or in here.
	It doesn't matter the location, I guess.
	Well, in terms of the men, I mean, do they act differently?
	They do.
	They're more like straightforward here.
	More straightforward here.
	Yeah, definitely.
	They, I don't know, like, people easily approach me here, there as in Russia, people are more, like, I don't know, insecure about going to a girl in the street and just say, hey, you're beautiful.
	You know, like, people here, I don't know, I get a lot more compliments here just on the streets.
	I feel like that's not very common in Russia.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	I've heard, I think we've had somebody who's from Russia on before, and they said that the Russian men tend to be a bit more traditional than the men in the United States.
	Has that been your experience?
	I mean, it's a little bit changing to you, but they're definitely more traditional.
	They won't do like 50-50, for example, on a date.
	In Russia.
	Yeah, in Russia.
	Whereas here they will.
	Respectfully.
	Some of them.
	I'm not saying like all of the Americans do that, but you know, I had my.
	So what do you prefer?
	I guess I prefer my man to cover it.
	I wouldn't do like 50-50 date, I guess.
	And is that the dynamic with your current boyfriend?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Final question.
	Can you sing the Russian national anthem?
	I'm not a good singer, though, but if you want me to.
	Okay, do it.
	Do you want me to sing it in Russian, I assume?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Rasiya Svisena, Janasa, Dirzava, Rasiya, Vilika, Janasa, Strana.
	That's it, I hope.
	Well done.
	Thank you.
	Well done.
	Beautiful.
	Beautiful.
	All right.
	I would have not done that.
	What about you?
	I am currently single, and boyfriend-wise, my longest relationship.
	I've never been in an actual relationship.
	I never wanted to be committed.
	I was just kind of in situationships.
	But yeah.
	So what's the longest period of time you've dated somebody?
	Dated.
	I mean, talk to someone, I guess you can say three, four months.
	Three to four months.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so you've been, you said you've been single.
	Are there any guys in the picture currently?
	No.
	No.
	Sneaky link.
	No.
	Situationship.
	You've had those in the past, though?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so single for I mean, I have relationships in middle school, but I don't really count those.
	Well, when, I guess, the three to four month one, how long ago was that?
	Maybe a year and a half ago, two years?
	Two years ago.
	Two years ago.
	So would you say you've been single for two years?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Any dates in that two-year period?
	I was talking to someone, but it just didn't work out.
	Didn't work out?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean?
	We just decided to be friends.
	We grew up with each other and just, yeah, decided to be friends.
	All right, got it.
	And you said that you.
	Actually, you know what?
	I'll come back to that.
	What about you?
	Last time I was in a relationship was probably 2021, I would say.
	And the longest relationship was six years.
	Two years together, four years on and off.
	So you've been single for three years, you'd say?
	And this six-year one, two years solid, four years off and on.
	That dopey, oh, yeah.
	Looking good.
	I don't know why it's coming through in Dutch.
	Let me fix that.
	Sorry, fucking Mike Davis.
	Here, I'm going to let it come through in.
	I'm going to make it go through in Russian.
	One sec.
	Hold on.
	Let me find Russian.
	Una memento, Mike Davis.
	Or was that too a fan?
	Was that like TOS?
	TS.
	T-O-S.
	They be looking mad good.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'll fix it, Mike Davis.
	One sec, boys.
	Continue on with your relationship history.
	Yeah, that's probably as wild.
	I had a boyfriend from 13 to 18 as well, and then jumped straight into that situation.
	Yeah, but together for two years and still doesn't exploit milk, okay.
	All right, thank you.
	That's great.
	Here, we're gonna put it to English finally.
	Sorry, guys.
	Where is it?
	One sec, boys.
	Oh, yeah, that's Mike Davis, by the way.
	That is where, where is this?
	Hold on, guys.
	There we go.
	Okay, back to back to the English guy.
	Okay, all right.
	Thanks, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	All right.
	Do you want to respond?
	That was directed towards you, I think.
	I don't, I like, is it a question?
	Well, he's saying that like Russian chicks be looking, he said mad good until they hit 30, then they become babushkas.
	Oh, shit.
	Yo, beer and waffles.
	Thank you for the gifted 50 subs on, hold on.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Yo, dude, thank you so much for the gifted 50 subs.
	Beer and waffles.
	Must be a Dutchman.
	He hurt his fellow TTS robot guy.
	Do you have a response to Mike Davis?
	You can.
	I don't know.
	I think like Russian chicks, they always look good.
	Even they're 30 or older.
	They age like fine wine, I guess.
	Come on.
	All right.
	All right.
	Shots fired, Mike Davis.
	All right.
	So you said, oh, right.
	The on-again, off-again relationship.
	So how many times was it off and on?
	Oh, my goodness.
	I couldn't count.
	More than 10?
	More than 10.
	More than 20?
	Probably.
	50?
	Anywhere between 20 to 40, I would say, easily.
	And more often than not, who was ending things?
	Probably him.
	He would end things.
	Why is that?
	Honestly, that's a great question.
	Because it was something that wasn't meant to be that I was trying to force, to be honest with you.
	And I think when people have this weird complexity, they don't want to let something go, but they don't want it either.
	It's like that's mine, but it's not mine, but no one else can have it.
	That's kind of where the on-off thing comes from, is my assumption.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So he would end it overwhelmingly.
	Did you ever end things or was it a couple times?
	Mostly him, though.
	Mostly him.
	And then who initiated the back on him or you?
	Weirdly, 50-50.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so you can't point to reasons why it was constantly.
	Well, the reason why it would be constantly, if you want to like delve into it, is the fact.
	Yeah, we can delve.
	Can you just tilt your mic so it's a little straighter?
	Yeah, better.
	That's good.
	When a younger girl dates an older guy, I think there's always a level of insecurity that's there.
	And what comes with that as well, if you don't have a good foundation for your identity, you place it in a relationship.
	So therefore, I did that with this guy.
	And I think he was very well aware of the fact of how into it I was.
	And so he knew that he could basically date me for a period of time.
	Then it didn't work out, but he knew that I would always be there.
	So you'd always come back, always this.
	But then it was this weird kind of back and forth of both wanted it, both didn't want it.
	But it was just a security blanket for so many years.
	And you said that you guys, it was for a six-year period.
	You've been single for three.
	From what age to what age did you date him?
	18 to 18, 19, 22, 20, 23.
	Oh, yeah, 26.
	This is the one that ended three years ago.
	Yeah.
	And I'm 26 now.
	Mike Davis donated $69.
	Now they be aging like milk, but I ain't gonna argue it.
	We got more important matters.
	If any of you clowns plans to vote for that demon Kamal, send me your location and I'll kill you with my bare hands.
	You spelled bear wrong.
	You spelled bear wrong.
	I think he meant.
	I think he means maybe the animal bear.
	Like he has bare hands.
	Like B-A-R-E, not bear.
	He's bearing.
	Oh, he's a bear.
	Okay.
	Take a spelling class, Mike Davis.
	You just got totally.
	You misspelled it.
	Although I guess it could be.
	He can go either way.
	I think you could use bear.
	I think he meant bear hands.
	Usually that's the thing.
	I think he references a man or a person's bear hand.
	So you started dating when you guys were 18.
	Yep.
	How old was he?
	You said there was an age gap.
	He would have been 18 on age management.
	24.
	Okay, so 18, 24.
	I mean, not a massive age gap, but and so you felt like because of the age gap, that contributed to the conflicts.
	I think so.
	I think 18 to 24 is such a big age gap, just in mentality, especially for girls.
	You're so young, and a guy who's just had a little bit more of an older experience kind of knows what's what a lot more than a 19-year-old girl.
	Well, do you have, so do you have objections to age gap relationships?
	No.
	Or it's just happened.
	Yeah, I just happened to be in a not good one.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	So officially, I've been single like for about seven months now, but I wasn't, I was talking to someone and that ended like about a month ago.
	So officially, last time you came?
	It was like less than a month ago.
	Yeah.
	Wait, so last time you came.
	I was like, I was like, we.
	You were still seeing this guy?
	I was like talking to this guy and we kind of ended things.
	Who ended things?
	I didn't.
	You did?
	Why?
	Because trust was broken.
	How?
	You fuck a girl?
	I don't really want to say all the details, but I guess it was just more a lot of miscommunication and then trust was broken in the sense that he kind of disrespected me with how he acted with the girl.
	It didn't have to be like...
	How long were you guys together?
	Because we weren't talking, we were like talking for a month, but it was like there's a lot of things that said were going to happen that didn't happen and then which led on to like just lying.
	So it was just kind of like very disrespectful from things that we had said were going to be.
	So it was exclusive?
	Yeah, we were talking exclusively.
	Yeah.
	We were having a conversation about we're just talking to each other.
	But I think mostly it was just the lack of communication and if you're going to say you're going to do something and it's and you don't do it, it really doesn't.
	Well, what was he going to do?
	He was going to come up here actually and meet me after the show.
	And then I didn't, you know, and then he went MIA.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	There's a lot of other details to it.
	Single for seven months.
	Longest relationship?
	Yeah.
	Oh, four years.
	Four years.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I've been married for four years and with this same man, we've been together almost six years total.
	All right.
	That's my longest relationship.
	It's an age gap relationship, correct?
	Yeah, it is an age gap.
	You're 28.
	He is what?
	40s plus.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	Just out of respect for him.
	He doesn't.
	Anybody smell weed?
	I do.
	Why would that be disrespectful?
	Well, actually, it's just a matter of his own concerns for his personal presence online.
	Don't want to be really popular.
	Do you post him?
	I do here and there.
	Not that, not like my Instagram is not a page dedicated to pictures of us together, but I have photos together with him, yeah.
	But he doesn't, he just doesn't want to be aware of it.
	Ryan Simpson for Big Laby Along donated $69.
	My sprinkler goes like this, comes back like this.
	Thank you for that.
	Appreciate it.
	Hashtag Big Labya Matter.
	All right, cool.
	Thank you.
	What about you?
	I'm married also for four years, and we've been together a little shy of eight years, and it's my longest relationship.
	All right.
	Very cool.
	And sorry, together, married how many years together?
	Four years together, eight years.
	Eight years.
	Maddie, M-Dog.
	I'm in a relationship.
	My current is my longest.
	It's been almost two years.
	M-Dog.
	I'm single.
	I'm single.
	Get this girl some water.
	Get her a cough drop.
	I'm single.
	I'm single.
	Longest relationship, two and a half years.
	Single for four months.
	Any prospects since the last time you told us?
	Not really.
	Any dudes sliding into the DMs?
	Yeah, but no.
	Yeah, but no.
	Okay, that's all you need to know.
	All right, cool.
	All right.
	So Andrew's married.
	So let's see here.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Starting point.
	I want to go back to a couple things.
	So in the pre-show notes for you two, I believe, both of you, if I understand correctly, are waiting until marriage to have carnal knowledge.
	Is that correct?
	Carnal knowledge.
	Yes.
	So Ashley, you recommitted to having sex waiting till marriage.
	Yes.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	And then is that the same for you?
	Yeah, well, I didn't redo it.
	I've been.
	I haven't.
	You haven't had no carnal knowledge.
	Mike Davis donated $69.
	If you already are messing with them old heads, come mess with Mike Davis.
	Ditch that wimp and get with a pimp.
	Ain't no way he's on my level.
	Wait, who are you talking to?
	Everyone.
	Are you now hitting on the Russian girl after you said she would be a babushka at age 30?
	Is that, are you?
	I think he might be talking you.
	I think I might be here.
	Wait, ditch that wimp and get older.
	I don't think he said anything about the older.
	He said old heads.
	Yeah.
	He said old heads on previous chats, too.
	He just keeps repeating.
	So is he hitting on you?
	No.
	I don't know who's heading.
	He's using the term old heads.
	He just keeps saying it.
	I don't know who's.
	Mike, we don't know what you're talking about.
	We don't understand, but that's nice that you're donating money to be able to do it.
	He got very excited.
	He got very excited that Biden dropped out of the race and he's probably drunk.
	Yeah.
	But if you think about him, I won't get into it.
	It's like, yes.
	Biden dropped.
	He does seem a bit turned right now, to be honest.
	He's probably, he drinks, he's a whiskey drinker.
	Ooh, nice.
	Yeah, he's just probably just classy, Mike.
	Tanked.
	He's absolutely tanked.
	He heard the news, started drinking.
	Whiskey drunk is crazy, too.
	He's on the West Coast or East Coast.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Mike Davis.
	Appreciate it.
	So you virgin then?
	Yes.
	No.
	Not like born-again virgin.
	No, I've never had sex in my life.
	Okay.
	Just to be clear.
	All right, good to know.
	So you said that the longest, though, you said you've had like, wait, hold on.
	But when I asked if you had like sneaky links or situationships, you responded in the affirmative.
	I didn't have sneaky links.
	I had a situationship that I was.
	Not sneaky link.
	You had a situationship.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	It was just a toxic situationship I was in.
	But we never, the only thing we ever did was kissed.
	And that was a good idea.
	Oh, okay.
	I see.
	Yeah, you did say you've been involved in more situationships than relationships.
	And I'm just seeing the notes here.
	But you said, I think you were doing another podcast.
	And in that podcast, you said you did things you were not proud of.
	Yeah, so like, for example, like being out with him, like one of the stories that I put on there was like, I went to a bar with him.
	I wasn't even of age yet.
	And he got me drunk and he left me.
	And he left and dipped.
	And I had to figure out, there's other people there, but like those are things that I was not the proudest of.
	This is the guy you dated for the three to four months?
	Or somebody?
	Yeah, that's that guy.
	A situation ship.
	Brought you to a bar.
	Got me drunk.
	And left you there.
	And dipped.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	He said he had something to do with his dad, but he, no, I heard that he was going to go see someone else.
	So it was late at night.
	It was a Friday night.
	We were celebrating a co-worker who was leaving, going to a different company.
	And yeah.
	That's kind of it.
	Okay.
	So, but you are waiting until a marriage to have sex.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you said doing things with honor, not just date to marriage.
	Negative underscore 69 donated $69.
	Panel, forgive me for a little bit of Brian simping.
	Brian, you've got some chubby balls for not being a commie in Commifornia.
	I am surprised that your home isn't under Antifa siege yet.
	Yeah, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you for the compliment.
	Appreciate it.
	We are behind enemy lines in California, behind enemy lines.
	But luckily, you know, we called in the reinforcements.
	We've got Andrew here.
	He helps out.
	He's perched up in the clock tower.
	What the fuck?
	Birth control alert.
	I get a pass.
	I get a pass for my phone to go off.
	So in any case, what were we doing, man?
	In the family lift.
	What is that?
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you for the compliment.
	Appreciate it.
	We are behind enemy lines here.
	We're right next to one of the super lib college universities.
	So in any case, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So you said that not just dating to date, but date to marriage.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so I was not privy to the fact.
	So a lot of my notes are now.
	It's not privy to the fact that you were also virgin.
	Okay.
	Besides the whole going out with him and drinking, were there other things that you were not the proudest of, or was that it?
	I mean, just even being with him in general.
	I mean, there's just like a lot of toxic things.
	And one day, like, he started to put hands on me.
	And those were just like things I let that happen.
	And I was not the proudest of.
	Okay.
	So, but other than that, I mean, I think anything, because now I think now what I mean by those are the things I wasn't the proudest of because all those things that I used to do, I don't do anymore or I don't attest to doing, like, I don't want to do those things.
	Like, partying, I used to party a lot in high school and drink.
	That was my biggest things.
	Never touched drugs.
	I was always scared too, but drinking and stuff.
	So, those were like the moments I would say I wasn't the proudest of because I, you know, when you're intoxicated, maybe you're not doing the best things or you're portraying yourself the right way.
	So, I would say that.
	Are you a religious, Christian, Catholic?
	I am a Christian.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	All right.
	And you said that allowing ourselves to be pursued and we don't need to go chasing no man.
	Yes.
	Women.
	Oh, so you think the men should be doing the pursuit?
	I absolutely think so.
	If I could reference it in the Bible, it says a man who finds a wife, finds favor, and finds a good thing.
	And for me, like, if it's going to happen, like, if he wants to talk to me and pursue me, he can go ahead and do that.
	But I'm not going to sit there like waiting around for someone.
	I've had people have interest in me, but it's just knowing that they're pursuing me.
	I don't need to go out and look for someone or go on a dating app or anything like that.
	Speaking of which, we do have.
	Did we have the dating app stuff, Nick?
	We don't have hers.
	Oh, it was the.
	Curtis Undiscole nuns coordinated $69.
	For the panel, Brian is in prison.
	Who would break their chastity with anyone in order to save Brian from the gas chamber?
	Brian is in prison for tearing the do not tear tag off his mattress.
	Wait, what?
	Who would break their chastity with?
	Oh, you have to break your chastity with anybody to save me because I'm in prison.
	So you just have to have sex with a person.
	And he's only in prison.
	He's in prison for a BS reason, according to the super chat, which is he tore the tag off of his mattress.
	Total BS.
	You're not supposed to do that.
	It clearly says it right there.
	Felony.
	Red tag.
	You're about to get executed for that one.
	Is this really a super chat question?
	Okay.
	So who's currently?
	Okay, here.
	Show of hands.
	Who's currently chaste?
	Chaste?
	What does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	Like not having sex.
	Oh, he's not.
	Not having sex.
	Aren't you dating a guy?
	Yeah, but we're not like.
	Oh, you're not.
	Yeah.
	Are you like by default?
	Wait, so are you waiting?
	These four and then Morgan.
	Vercor donated $69.
	A question for the panel.
	Is America ultimately doomed when it comes to dating?
	Yes.
	Ultimately, ultimately doomed.
	Doomed.
	Basically.
	It is a hellscape out there, boys.
	Ultimately doomed.
	Me and Andrew are doing what we can.
	We're doing what we can.
	But listen, you know, we've got huge forces working against us.
	So.
	We're just two men.
	We're just two men in a podcast.
	It's hard out here.
	It's hard.
	Okay.
	So would you guys have sex with anyone to save me?
	Just my husband.
	You don't have to have sex with me.
	It could be you could have sex with Ryan Reynolds if you want to.
	Can I have sex with my husband to save you?
	Well, you guys don't count.
	I was going to say, it's only for the chast, chaste chastity.
	Yeah, unless it was a husband.
	No.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	Sorry, Ryan.
	Hard.
	But I'll take over the pod for you, though.
	What if it's who's who's that Superman guy?
	What's his name?
	Clark.
	Henry Catharines.
	Henry Kethel.
	Oh.
	Bro, what the fuck?
	Yeah, literally, unless he's my husband.
	Yeah, that was going to be my husband.
	Dream big.
	Dream big.
	You never know.
	That's pretty.
	Dream big.
	Wait.
	Oh, right.
	Because the dating app thing.
	Okay, we have yours though, right?
	You have the dating app?
	Okay.
	We'll do that maybe a little bit later.
	I forgot where we were.
	We were talking about, oh, men, you were saying how men should pursue.
	Is that correct?
	I think women should pursue.
	I mean, I don't think.
	What does that mean?
	Yeah.
	What do you mean by pursue?
	slide into the dms be like it may or may not include you know how guys send dick pics I think women should send those lessons.
	They should definitely not.
	I respect myself anyway.
	No, but Lena.
	For revenge.
	That's what that means.
	No, how many women are upset about all the dick pics that have been sent?
	I think women, not because you want to, but for revenge.
	Like, that'll show them.
	Oh, yeah, that'll really.
	I don't need to fight this battle.
	You'll show the men.
	But give people your own.
	You will teach the men a lesson.
	And what's the lesson for them?
	Honestly, Brian, you're funny.
	You're really figuring out this whole dating thing on.
	Show them a lesson.
	Yeah.
	Teach them.
	There are many dick pics that I've seen.
	It's usually the girls get around and they make fun of the guy for sending the tick picture.
	Yeah, 100%.
	So you're doing a disservice to yourself by sending a dick pic.
	Has a dick pic ever worked in the history of tick pics?
	No, no, no.
	There's probably like one guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	I think there's one guy.
	I don't know why people do that.
	I think one guy.
	I just think in the standage, it's crazy to send nudes.
	Like everything gets leaked.
	I don't know.
	I'm very.
	I've never leaked a nude.
	You only just sent a silhouette.
	No, I don't send that with a nude.
	I've never sent a nude.
	Bro, what the fuck?
	Okay, this is.
	Just take your birthday.
	You're Mr. Popular, though.
	Oh, my God, bro.
	What is this?
	Can I just ask one thing?
	You said you're not waiting around for a man, but yet you're not pursuing a man either.
	So aren't you waiting for a man to find you?
	You're like in the tower being repressive.
	I mean, I'm waiting for the right one to pursue me.
	I guess you can see.
	I'm still handling business and doing everything I need to do.
	I mean, but I'm not like sitting around at home like, oh my gosh, like who's it going to be or anything like that?
	I'm going to continue with my business.
	And then if you're not going to be able to do that.
	The new man donated $69.
	Ladies, do you support evil feminism or do you support the patriarchy?
	Patriarchy.
	Patriarchy are all the way.
	Why are they the only two options?
	That's the only two options.
	Like, there's so many other options out there.
	There's really not.
	Andrew, are you feminism or patriarchy?
	I think we all know.
	Patriarchy.
	Patriarchy.
	Is that a serious question?
	They ask the panel.
	You're on the panel.
	Yeah, I would be a patriarchist for sure.
	Good.
	I'm glad to hear that.
	That's good.
	But if you were to say that.
	But you said evil feminism specifically, not just regular evil feminism.
	Well, isn't all feminism evil?
	Yes.
	Yeah, I think it is.
	Yeah, it's turned out to be something crazy.
	It started off as something crazy.
	Andrew, what do you think should men pursue?
	With your, you're also, you have the Bible behind you.
	So what do you think pursuing means as a man and should work?
	I think it's fine.
	I think it's fine both ways.
	So if women signal interest in men, then they pursue them.
	But I don't see anything problem or any big problem with women signaling or showing interest.
	That is a form of pursuit.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Okay, okay.
	That's totally a form of pursuit.
	We're just going to pretend that it isn't, but it definitely is.
	So the man is just more so taking like the initiative and the woman is either responding or rejecting more so?
	No, I think that women send off signals all the time, which is part of the way that they pursue.
	You know, all sorts of different signals, even in conversations, maybe they'll flirt, things like that.
	But that's a form of pursuit, I think.
	They're not maybe as aggressive as men are, but that's still how they pursue men, for sure.
	But I think like they want you to know, okay, I'm interested in you.
	And, you know, sometimes men are dense, and we don't even know that we're being signaled at, right?
	Then it just kind of subtly increases and increases until they're like, hey, dummy, you know, I'm interested in you.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and I would agree with that.
	I would even backtrack like my words that I said, like signaling.
	Yeah, that's cool, but I, like you said, that's a form of pursuing, but I'm not going to like sit there and try to pursue a relationship like at my own risk.
	Like I'm the only one trying to pursue.
	Like you guys, like if you have you guys had a guy try to get at you and they constantly try to get at you and it's just kind of like you don't know.
	You're not even giving them anything.
	You're not really giving them anything.
	I'm not going to do that to a guy.
	That's kind of more what I mean.
	The problem is you're on a timeline and he's not.
	So if you want to have kids, it's you kind of got young.
	She's 23.
	I'm 23.
	I believe that.
	I know, but the time goes by fast.
	Two years ago, I was 23, or at least it feels like I was.
	And now I'm 27 and I'm like, I better pop those kids out.
	But God's time.
	God really will be like, he knows our desires and what we want.
	And it doesn't matter.
	Like, we've seen people in our church that they're like 45, 50, 60, and they're getting together.
	And God has a plan for everybody.
	And so I don't think kids get cancer.
	What?
	What do you mean?
	Explain this spirit.
	Explain.
	What's the correlation between God?
	I'm crazy.
	I don't really understand this line of logic, though.
	So if you say God has a plan for everybody, okay, that's fair.
	Does that mean you shouldn't have any plans for yourself?
	No, I do.
	I have the vision, but he directs my steps.
	So I have a vision of having a husband.
	But he's going to direct me like day to day.
	I'm not going to be like, well, who is it going to be?
	Who is it going to be?
	How am I going to find him?
	Is he going to send you a sign?
	Sometimes he does signs and wonders, but most of the time it's a sign.
	Is a crow.
	Is a crow gonna if a crow flies down and it pops up on a perch and it caused twice?
	Do you consider that a sign?
	Yes.
	No.
	So what would a sign be to you?
	I don't even think that'd be more of a sign.
	It's just his voice.
	I know how he speaks to me through like that small still voice and just that.
	Wait, the what?
	The small still voice.
	Like just the Holy Spirit.
	What is the small still voice?
	The Holy Ghost.
	It's the Holy Spirit.
	It's like, it's not my thoughts.
	It's like a thought that comes in and it's just this knowing and you only really know that feeling when you spend time with him.
	TS is bumped to 199.
	Go ahead, continue.
	But because actually the question for the show notes that I had for the topics I want to talk about was actually this.
	It's like, okay, God's timing and waiting and just letting God do his thing.
	Or do we actively pursue as a woman?
	But didn't God give you the biological clock to begin with?
	So shouldn't you be following that biological clock?
	Not really.
	If you look in scripture, you see that this, what, John the Baptist mother was how old when she's there and Abraham?
	Sarah and Abraham at like 200 years old.
	Yeah, but we barely live until 200 years old.
	But that God is still existent today.
	They're not different gods.
	He's the same God.
	So if he wanted to, absolutely.
	That's 60.
	According to our scripture, absolutely.
	Yeah.
	I believe so.
	But you also got to look at the world around us.
	Why don't we just do a social media?
	Let me see if I can kind of untangle some of this crazy here.
	So let's start with the, yes, there are people who lived in the Bible hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years.
	But do you also remember that people's days got numbered?
	Do you remember that part of the Bible?
	Yes, but the principle of the part was, hang on, which part was that in where people's days got numbered?
	No idea.
	Do you remember?
	No.
	Well, throughout scripture, people's days have been numbered.
	No, no, no.
	When did people's days get numbered?
	Near the end.
	Where you could no longer live to a thousand years old.
	Do you remember?
	No, I actually don't.
	When was it?
	You guys don't have you never read Genesis or I was going to say the fall?
	Yeah.
	I mean, the fall?
	Like, I don't understand.
	Well, the fall would be revelation, right?
	Okay, revelation is what explains the fall, isn't it?
	I mean, am I crazy here?
	No, no, we're trying to get where Clarity used to be.
	Yeah, so people's days were numbered to 120 years, right?
	Right, okay.
	But the principle is.
	Yeah, so when we're untangling, so when we're untangling this argument, when you say, okay, well, it's logically possible that some people who lived till they were a thousand years old had babies.
	Yes, that's true.
	But then you remember the part where God numbered your years to 120 years, right?
	Right.
	So what we're saying is that, yes, in the Bible, like Sarah and Abraham, 99 years old, 100 years old.
	Okay.
	But what we're saying is the principle is still the same.
	God's characteristics is still the same.
	So the Bible sometimes is just you read it and you apply it to your life and what's going on right now in these times.
	And so Abraham wanted kids so badly and he was just not really seeing past what he could see.
	But God was telling him, giving him the vision, giving him what was going to come.
	And Abraham didn't believe it.
	Abraham didn't believe it.
	It was laughable because he's like, I'm 99 years old.
	What are you talking about?
	But then eventually he did at 100.
	He got a son, right?
	So the whole principle is that we can be so caught up in like, this is, I'm, I'm 25, I'm 26, whatever.
	And of course, it's different.
	The numbers of age is different now, but it's the same principle that she's 23.
	She doesn't need to be in a fear of like, God's not going to give me my husband.
	Like, that's not, God doesn't need us to be in that.
	But we're also not going to be naive and say, okay, we're going to wait till I'm 99 and 100.
	Of course not.
	That's taking a Bible and mocking it at that point.
	We're talking about the principle and the characteristics of who God is and his promises.
	If I could add to that, I feel like it kind of sounds like just because I'm waiting to pursue doesn't mean that I don't want a husband.
	I don't want to have kids.
	I believe like I'll possibly be married within the next three years.
	I truly believe that, that God will send me that husband.
	And if you guys know in the Christian culture, I don't know if you guys ever heard it before.
	People get married real quick.
	They know who it is.
	I still usually get married.
	I'm just real young.
	You're not real young.
	Hang on, I just pulled this up for you so that you have it.
	And this is no bash on you because obviously you don't have access, and I do.
	But this is Genesis 6:3.
	Then the Lord said, My spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh.
	His day shall be 120 years.
	Yeah.
	No, totally get that.
	Yeah, we're not saying like, yeah, 99, 100 years old, we're going to have babies or even be alive.
	We also got to think about the way that people lived back then during the Bible time.
	It's completely different to how we live now.
	Literally everything is a toxin in the air.
	Yeah.
	So if you don't think that that had an effect on our human body, then we're not saying that the times of the way humans live, of course, are different.
	But we're talking about the God, our God and His characteristics and His principles and His promises.
	I know Brian loves this conversation, but that's what we're talking about here.
	But you're kind of basing it more on like science and all of that and kind of worshiping what science can do and our bodies can do.
	We're not talking about creation here.
	We're talking about our Creator and what He could do with us and for us.
	I mean, if you believed in God, then people who also believed in God wouldn't be suffering anymore.
	Where does the idea that you have to reject science come from because you're a Christian believing that?
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying rejecting, but I understand what's happening now.
	We have a different framework.
	You're not a Christian or it's kind of.
	I was born a Christian.
	Okay, but where do you find yourself now?
	And wherever you are.
	I mean, I would, I hate the word, but I would classify myself as spiritual.
	Spiritual, not religious?
	Yeah, because organized religion is a scam.
	Okay, okay.
	So you don't, but so you read the Bible and you don't see it as truth, right?
	Okay, so that's that's fine.
	That's fine.
	But that's where the disconnect is because we have two different what the word is, what is the word, Andrew?
	Frameworks.
	So it's like we can go back and forth, but we'll never be able to settle on the same thing because you don't believe in the Bible.
	That's okay, but we're standing from the Bible.
	I believe the Bible is a book.
	I believe that it has stories.
	You were raised Mormon, is that correct?
	Yes.
	And your family's Mormon.
	Yes, they are.
	But you're no longer Mormon.
	You left the church.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Is it true they're a cult?
	I've heard so many things about crazy Mormon stories.
	Yeah, me too.
	There are definitely fractions that are cults.
	I don't know if the one I was in would be considered a cult.
	Do you have any wild ritual stories?
	No.
	Well, can I?
	I would like to get back to this real quick, if you don't mind.
	So I'm wondering, you would agree with me that marriages in biblical times at least were arranged, right?
	Yes.
	I mean.
	Yeah, that wasn't, it wasn't you waiting to be pursued by Mr. Wright.
	I mean, God wasn't directing women to get pursued by Mr. Wright.
	Rather, instead, what happened was that parents made arrangements for the marriage.
	They sold you off.
	Well, no, you're not getting, that's not getting sold off because there's an arranged marriage.
	In fact, I reject that framework, as she put it.
	The reason is, is because right now, nosy, busybody parents are all up in their fucking kids' business anyway.
	So, I mean, let's not pretend that they're not.
	Let's not pretend that your moms aren't calling you and going, who are you dating?
	And how are they going?
	They're all up in your shit now.
	It's just moving towards an arrangement.
	They're still trying to move towards an arrangement.
	If they don't like the guy you're dating, they're going to be up in your business, right?
	Yeah.
	They're going to be telling you they don't like him.
	They're going to be telling you not to marry him.
	So this idea that you're getting sold off because your parents have influence over who you marry is absurd.
	Totally absurd to me.
	Yeah.
	It's just different ways of how it's being approached.
	Yeah, same thing.
	Wait, so okay.
	TTS did come in asking if I was gone.
	Support evil, support feminism or patriarchy.
	Did we go around on that?
	Well, not around, but kind of just did it all of us.
	Basically, said patriarchy.
	Is anybody here a feminist?
	Just show of hands if you're a feminist.
	Anybody?
	Don't be ashamed.
	It's okay.
	Don't be ashamed.
	We accept you.
	Okay, this will be an interesting panel then.
	Thank you, Unreasonable Man, for that one.
	Appreciate it.
	Let's get through the rest of the notes then.
	So, I guess going back to Alyssa, maybe we'll chase.
	Well, we didn't really finish this conversation about who should pursue, who should chase.
	This would be a much easier conversation if some of you were from.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.
	Hey, Grid 1, thank you.
	Oops.
	Was locked in on the wrong account.
	The whale and prattle is so tough to listen to.
	Arranged marriages tend to be better, reporting being much happier with far fewer divorces and large families.
	Yo, Grid 1, thank you for the TTS, man.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	Word.
	Word?
	Anybody want an arranged marriage?
	I don't think it's a terrible idea.
	I don't think it's a terrible idea, especially because, I mean, someone said that they asked if dating in the modern age is doomed or whatever.
	Ultimately, I think an arranged Arranged marriage would actually probably be good for a lot of people.
	As long as the people arranging it, you can trust them, you know, and they've shown themselves to have good character.
	Because a lot of people are gonna end up single when they don't want to be because the path, it's just hard to navigate the dating world with the apps and everything.
	And social media has changed a lot.
	So, yeah, I think an arranged marriage, like if my parents were devoted Christians and then we had another couple that had a son that were devoted Christians and they both had the intention of arranging a marriage from a Christian standpoint and that son was a faithful Christian, like I could see it working because it eliminates all the other stuff, the distractions that we have to deal with in today's.
	Are you going to arrange your children's marriages?
	No, I'm saying hypothetically.
	I could see how that worked, but it doesn't, it's in today's world, I don't see it happening, or at least in this society and where I'm, I don't see it working.
	No, because there's social media.
	Why couldn't it work now?
	I'm not saying it doesn't, but for me, I don't know, or even my son, I have a son.
	I don't know if I, because of the fact that that's not our culture, that's not what we grew up in.
	And there's social media, there's their schools, there's social circles, there's, it's just a whole lot of other things that people look at now, which I'm not saying it's right, it's just reality.
	So I think it's a lot of more selfishness when we look into who we want to date sometimes instead of.
	But I mean, you're definitely going to interfere in your son's dating choices, interfere in his life everywhere that you possibly can in order to make sure that he's not with some chick that you don't like or that he's going to be miserable with.
	Like, you're going to interfere as much as you possibly can, right?
	Right, yeah.
	So the traditional arranged marriage, I'm not going to do, but I'm going to do some sort like form of it in today's society, of course.
	Yeah, I think that it's already that already we never really got away from arranged marriage.
	What happened is it just took a different form.
	Yeah.
	So I think that what happens instead is that devoted parents still try everything they can possibly do to arrange good partnerships for their children.
	But often their children are willful, disobedient, this type of thing.
	Or they make a bad choice that happens sometimes too.
	But the point in principle is that I don't think it ever actually went away.
	I think that they're still in the business of the kids all the time.
	And I think probably all of your parents are, right?
	All of your parents are in your business, right?
	Never, not even once.
	Well, wait, not the married ones.
	They might not be in your before you were married.
	They were in your business, though, weren't they?
	No?
	No.
	Do you just not have a good relationship with your parents?
	I have a great relationship with my parents.
	I love my parents, but they're just not very interested in that kind of stuff.
	They got their own stuff.
	Well, okay.
	Gonna move it on a little bit here.
	Before I get into more of my pre-show notes, does anybody here have, those of you who've seen the show before, anybody have any disagreements?
	Maybe you've seen, maybe you've been on the show before.
	You've heard a clip from Andrew.
	You've heard a clip from me.
	Any disagreements?
	I disagree with the bowel.
	The bow thing?
	Okay.
	The what?
	The bow.
	Why?
	Oh, the bow thing.
	It just seems so demeaning for her.
	You said you're married, right?
	Yeah.
	Did your husband get down on one knee when he proposed to you?
	No.
	Did he spend thousands of dollars on a wedding ring?
	No.
	Did he buy a wedding ring?
	Yes, he did.
	Did he propose to you?
	Yes.
	He didn't get down on one knee, though.
	No.
	How'd he do it?
	Would you say that's the expectation on most women?
	Or excuse me, from most women to most men?
	Possibly.
	Okay.
	So you said it's, what was the term you used?
	The bow.
	The bow, yeah.
	Just a demeaning.
	Demeaning.
	Why is it demeaning?
	Just because the video that you show, it seems very rude.
	Like he kicks his shoes off and she has to go chase them and then bow and then he throws his jacket.
	Like, I'd rather, like, I'm willing to take care of your shoes and your.
	You know, it's a single colour.
	I know, I know, but the video itself seems very demeaning for her.
	Okay, let me just grant that to you.
	But do you think that that's really the conduct that I'm suggesting?
	Maybe, maybe a little.
	Okay, so I think it's a powerful.
	If I'm just desirous of a bow, which is pretty much what I'm trying to communicate, here, why don't we show the bow for context so the other panelists know what we're talking about?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Boom.
	Huge.
	Comes home.
	Penthouse apartment.
	You know, this problem is this, where is this?
	You know, rents are very expensive, isn't some of these places.
	Look, attentive, dinner's ready.
	Dinner's ready, slipping and sliding all over those hardwood floors.
	Bore, bore, beer, ready to go.
	Noodles mixed.
	Noodles mixed.
	Boom.
	Look at that technique.
	Look at that technique.
	Excellent.
	She got it down.
	Top tier.
	One more time.
	Let's see the bow.
	This is all I want.
	Boom.
	Just huge.
	That other shit.
	I was going to say.
	I don't want to say specific culture, but in certain cultures, that's still happening today.
	But it's because the man is holding it down in a way that it's like they're showing mad respect.
	Yeah, actually, that way in other cultures because that's a sign of differentiating between who you consider your superior or not.
	So in Asian cultures, they bow to their bosses.
	They bow to people who have higher ones.
	Well, yeah.
	Sleep.
	Thank you, Greg.
	Ladies, a bow is a sign of respect and of service.
	Do you intend to not respect, submit, or be of service to your husband?
	Seems feminist.
	Super feminist.
	So what I was going to tell her is you said that.
	Thank you for tuning in, Gridline.
	Appreciate it.
	Or stick around for it.
	What is that word that you said?
	Demeaning.
	Just the video.
	Yeah, the video was ridiculous.
	But I think.
	So, Anthony.
	Why was the video ridiculous?
	Anthony.
	Didn't seem ridiculous.
	Seemed awesome.
	She was smiling.
	She was happy.
	Oh, I'm sorry, did she have to get off her fucking lazy ass for five minutes and go over and mix his fucking noodles after she bowed?
	What a terrible, terrible time.
	She looks so abused, beaten.
	This poor, demeaned woman, she had to go over and pick up this guy's jacket after he'd worked all day in his socks and then go mix his noodles.
	And he didn't even care.
	He wasn't even submissive to her.
	He didn't even give her the customary smack on the ass on the way in the door.
	I don't know what the hell is wrong with him, this psychopath.
	Andrew, would you be okay with your wife bowing to you?
	You damn right.
	Yeah, sure.
	Does she do it?
	No, but I mean, a curtsy is nice every now and again.
	Well, what does she do that shows like the same honor and respect?
	Like, what's equivalent to that that your wife does or wish she did?
	As far as respect?
	Yeah, I mean, my wife foresees my needs before I foresee my needs.
	She knows what I want to eat before I even know what I want to eat.
	She knows what it is that I want before I know what it is that I want.
	She foresees all of my needs.
	In exchange for that, I take care of literally everything in her life.
	Doesn't matter what it is, right?
	I take care of it.
	But she takes her job seriously.
	Same thing with my children.
	She foresees all of their needs before they foresee what their own needs are.
	And that's a good wife.
	Amen.
	Yep.
	So, wait, going back to the whole bow thing, for you, you've not really had a chance to actually make your case.
	How is it demeaning?
	Well, just the video.
	I feel like it says something that you chose that specific video.
	What does it say?
	Well, it implies that, like, I feel like he goes out of his way to kick his shoes off at her, to throw his shirt down on the bed instead of just hanging it up or throwing it in the laundry.
	You're throwing it anyways, why don't you throw it somewhere?
	I mean, look, that is what is in the video, but the video is also a bit satirical and I think a bit they're doing a bit.
	In any case, I don't really, in terms of what I've articulated multiple times on the show, I don't prescriptively advise men to like throw their shoes around, throw their shirt around, etc., etc.
	So, what I have said on the show is that, yeah, it would be attractive and dope and cool if a girl bowed.
	So, if you want to straw man the video as if that is my actual position, instead of just using it as an example, for example, I'm trying to think, I don't eat noodles.
	Does that mean that because, like, I don't, so I don't eat noodles, but because it's in the video, then I must have noodles?
	Yeah.
	Does everything that's in the video need to necessarily apply for me to use a video as an example of generally speaking what I'm desirous of?
	I don't drink beer either.
	I don't drink beer either, so I would not require a woman to open a beer for me.
	Speaking of which, there you go, there you go.
	So, okay, so now that we've established that you don't follow with the video all the way, just the beginning.
	Well, you said you object to the bow, now you're shifting the goalposts to all the conduct in the video.
	I meant the video.
	So, now that I've already essentially disavowed what, in my view, is actually they're doing a bit, they're joking.
	I don't think that, you know, I'm assuming this was staged to some degree.
	So, if my desire is simply the bow, which is observed, and I say I make no statements as to how I'm going to conduct myself, I'm just using that video as an example of desiring the action that she takes, which is the bow.
	So, now we can have a precise conversation about that.
	How is that demeaning?
	Well, I don't think a bow in and of itself.
	That's what you said the bowing is demeaning.
	In the video, and then you shifted it to all the things the man was doing was demeaning.
	Well, yeah, that's how demeaning works.
	Okay, fine.
	I attract what I said.
	If you want your woman to bow to you, so you have no objections to bowing?
	No, I'm submissive to my husband.
	I don't personally bow, because that's weird.
	Would you if he asked you to, though?
	I probably would in a joking manner, yes.
	But like in a serious manner, like he's like, I want you to.
	I don't think he would seriously ask me to do that.
	Wait, so there's no objections to the actual for the woman bowing?
	No.
	Well, why didn't you state that instead of say I object to the bow thing, but then you actually object to the conduct of the man in the satirical bowing video, which is like a TikTok bit?
	That's what I meant.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I'm.
	because I asked if you had any disagreements yeah and I said with the way right but I've never advised I've never prescribed prescriptively said to men by the way when you're greeting your your girlfriend just toss your shoes at her go into your bedroom toss your shirt in there and And I think that's what you object to.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So have I ever advised on this podcast that a man ought to demean his girlfriend?
	Okay, but that's your objection.
	demeaning nature of the man, but I'm, the point of the video is showing the desirous behavior of the woman.
	I just think it's funny that you always show that one video, and it's like such a demeaning video.
	But I get what you're saying.
	don't see how the video is demeaning either it just seems i understand So Brian's point is just to say that if you agree with him that he enjoys the bow, but maybe not all aspects of the video, you don't actually have an objection to him just wanting to have a woman bow to him, right?
	No.
	Yeah, so, okay, so then your objection would be more towards me because I don't see anything demeaning in the video at all.
	And I think it's perfectly acceptable if he walks in and kicks his shoes all over the fucking floor, throws his jacket on the ground, she picks it up.
	I don't give a shit.
	That's her duty.
	That's her job.
	I don't see that as being demeaning at all any more than it's demeaning for me to crawl on the ground underneath a machine covered in pig guts all the way up to my hips so I can fix a machine so that you can afford the fucking noodles that you get to sit at home and make for me.
	So I don't see it as demeaning.
	Now, can you tell me why you think that it's demeaning?
	Well, just imagine if it was your boss who poured the pig shit all over the place that you had to crawl under.
	Would you have appreciated it more if he hadn't poured the pig shit all over the place before he had to crawl under there?
	So your job is your job.
	What if you remain?
	So the thing is, is that I can't tell you how many times there was employees who maybe fuck something up, who were around any number of these different factories you have to crawl through waist deep in blood in order to clean or service a machine or fix a robot or whatever.
	That's part of your job.
	You know what?
	My boss didn't want to hear.
	He didn't want to hear no fucking bitching.
	He didn't want to hear, oh, that guy really shouldn't have done that, Paul.
	That guy really shouldn't have done that.
	He would have said, I don't give a shit.
	Wilson, get your ass back on the floor.
	What are you doing in here bothering me with this shit?
	That's what he would have said.
	Right?
	So I don't think your husband cares that much.
	I mean, if he comes home and he kicks his shoes on the ground, you got to pick them up.
	You know, it's kind of a woe-is-me thing, right?
	Like, it seems like crying over spilt milk a little bit.
	Yeah, but that's the whole point in life.
	It's to cry over spilt milk?
	Well, it's to bring up the little things.
	That's like the most annoying trait a female can have on planet Earth is to bring up a bunch of just minute nitpicks about her man.
	If your husband spent all day bringing up minute nitpicks about you, you would be so annoyed that you couldn't see straight.
	He just doesn't.
	Most men don't.
	They just don't bring up all the nitpicks they have about women, of which there's always many.
	Here's a good one, right?
	And I promise that you likely do this.
	Your husband's in the middle of doing something super important and you start bothering him with what I call tangential woman prattle.
	Something that is actually not important, but you think it's important.
	And since you think it's important, it needs to be talked about even though it's not actually important.
	That's never happened.
	Go ahead, lie to me.
	I've never done that.
	Nah, yeah, you've never done that.
	Your poor husband's sitting at home right now.
	He's kicked back and he's reclining or he's watching this.
	He's like, yes, you fucking have, but maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe you're the one.
	Maybe you're the one who's never done that.
	I've never done that.
	Never done that.
	No.
	I mean, what are the traits that you have that are annoying?
	Do you have any?
	Are you just perfect?
	Yeah, I get irrationally angry at least once a month.
	Oh, period, Joke.
	Ha ha, that was really super funny.
	So, I mean, if you were going to take the, you know, the actual question serious, though.
	That was a serious.
	Yeah, I get it.
	Yeah, I get it.
	You're rational once a month.
	But other than that, other than your biology, you have zero annoying habits.
	You don't do anything which is annoying.
	Nothing.
	I'm sure I do, but I'm sure he doesn't notice because he has ADHD and has to be a little bit more.
	No, no, no.
	He notices.
	He just doesn't bring it up.
	See, we notice.
	We just don't bring it up because it's not important, so we don't give a shit.
	Which is not important.
	It's a minute detail.
	And I'm sure the girl in the video, if it was a real scenario, which I highly doubt, I highly doubt she said anything either because that would be her life.
	You know what I do that's really annoying?
	I'm going to tell you something that I do that's super annoying.
	My wife doesn't ever bring it up though.
	Okay.
	So I like to have my plate of food brought to me where nothing's touching.
	But then I mix it all together myself and then I eat it.
	Okay.
	I don't know why I do that.
	I just like to do it.
	So I want, but if you bring it to me and anything's touching, I'm like, what the fuck?
	I don't want nothing touching.
	I want you to bring me the plate of food.
	And then I, you know, I grab the bacon and throw it in the eggs and then I mix all that shit up, right?
	That's me.
	I'm sure that that's super annoying.
	She doesn't say a word about it.
	Doesn't say a word about it.
	Okay, now I'm sure she does all sorts of annoying things too.
	I'm not going to bring any of those up because who gives a shit ultimately, right?
	Who cares?
	You got to pick up the shoes.
	Who cares?
	But then why debate about anything?
	What's that?
	Why debate about anything?
	Yeah, Andrew, stop lying.
	I know you pick up after your wife, what that comment said.
	Yo, Elowar, thank you.
	I can't hear you.
	Andrew, we can't.
	Can you hear us?
	Okay.
	Huh?
	I don't think you can.
	Did something get switched?
	Nothing got switched.
	But we can just retry the call.
	Yeah, retry the call.
	I guess you can't hear us.
	Okay, well, while we're waiting on that, we are going to call him right back, get that fixed.
	We are going to get into some of the other pre-shows.
	Oh, any other disagreements from anybody?
	Disagreements?
	Well, you got something, Maddie.
	I don't have a disagreement, but I have a question.
	Sure.
	My question is, what is your end goal?
	You know how you usually typically will bring on a lot of OnlyFans girls and stuff.
	And you, yeah, from all clips that I've seen anyways, I see that there's a lot of OnlyFans girls or girls that are like very pro like sexual liberation.
	And I feel like you guys are very harsh in the way that you debate with them to try and alter their opinions on things.
	I just am curious as to why you go about such a harsh, a harsh way of doing it.
	Do you think that that actually changes their minds or their perspectives in any ways?
	Or do you just kind of want to do it for the sake of debating and not actually try and change mentalities?
	Right.
	So let me address your.
	Do we have Andrew back, by the way?
	Can we check real quick?
	Andrew, can you hear us?
	We can't hear him.
	He can't hear us.
	Maybe it's a Discord setting.
	You sure nothing got muted or clicked?
	Yeah, I wasn't clicked on anything that happened in the randomly.
	Why don't you stop Virtual Cam, restart Virtual Cam for Andrew?
	All right, Andrew, can you hear us?
	Can you hear us?
	That's no.
	Why don't you close out of Discord?
	Redo the call.
	Okay.
	Keep me posted on that.
	So give me just one sec.
	We're trying to get Andrew called back in here.
	So.
	Okay, so your first criticism is we bring on a lot of OnlyFans girls.
	Allow me to debunk that immediately.
	How many OnlyFans girls do we have on this panel?
	None.
	None.
	I didn't say a criticism.
	I said a question.
	So I'm not criticizing it.
	It's just a genuine curiosity.
	People have this.
	We've had OnlyFans Girls on the show.
	We've had, I mean, over the course of.
	Can you guys hear me?
	Yeah, we can hear you.
	Is that good?
	All right.
	Awesome.
	Okay.
	So I've actually had somebody, because this is a criticism we get frequently, that we just bring on sex workers and OnlyFans girls and we bring them on to dunk on them.
	Maybe that last part's true.
	But the important part to be accurate about is this idea that we only bring on OnlyFans girls.
	And actually doing an analysis of all the guests, and I had somebody painstakingly go through every single episode and listen to, you know, we're getting data collected, age, occupations, et cetera.
	I believe it's less than 20% of the panelists are involved in OF or some kind of sex work.
	Granted, we have had sex workers and OnlyFans girls on the show, but this idea that we overwhelmingly or that we're somehow an OF ad agency is just ridiculous if you actually spend any time watching the show or doing any research.
	Well, I can also give a counter here that Brian, Brian definitely holds different views than I do, most assuredly.
	And I've actually not seen him be particularly harsh towards women based on sexual history or occupation almost ever.
	That's usually me.
	And I think he gets a lot of flack and criticisms for my views, even though they're not actually his views.
	So I think that's a fair criticism to make.
	For me, I'm definitely hard on him.
	And I have great justifications for why.
	But I've never actually seen really Brian be very harsh with any woman in those regards, unless they've been super disrespectful on the show.
	But for the most part, I've just never really seen that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so, I mean, just to be fair, yes, I've gotten into heated exchanges with women who have come on the show.
	Sometimes they happen to do OnlyFans.
	I guess I would have to ask you to be specific and point to a specific interaction or specific thing that I've said, which you deem to be harsh, which may very well exist, but I'd have to hear what it is.
	Yeah, that's a great one.
	I think not specifically you.
	I think the culture generalizing of this show from the viral clips does show that.
	And so it's probably the ones that are the most viral that show people being quite harsh who are guests.
	That's why it was just more so the curiosity of if you guys, when these specific people are on the show, do tend to debate more with them in a harsher way.
	Is there a specific intent behind that?
	Yeah, there's a bad, there's kind of a bad straw man smuggled in there.
	So I'm a guest, just like you are.
	I'm just remoted in, right?
	But I'm often in the room myself.
	Most of the viral clips from the whatever podcast are guests themselves arguing.
	So when you say you guys, but you didn't make the differentiation, but we're the guest and you guys are arguing with the guests, that's incorrect.
	Most of the viral clips are guests themselves arguing.
	So who is you guys here?
	That's a good point.
	Oh, yeah, that's a great point.
	All right.
	No, not to generalize then.
	I'm just saying that not to generalize as in pairing in you guys.
	More so from my observation of the podcast.
	That's what I've seen.
	And it was just a genuine, as I said, not a, I don't agree.
	You just said, is there any questions?
	It was just a curiosity question as do you think that there's a, do you have an intent with why you do that?
	Or is it just because you enjoy communicating that way?
	So there's the straw man again, right?
	There is no you guys are doing X. There's viral clips that go of guests who are arguing, right?
	But wouldn't that be on the guests themselves?
	Yeah, so I'm not specifically putting anyone down.
	As I said, just to emphasize it, it's just a curiosity question as to why you think that happens.
	Do you think it's beneficial?
	Do you think that it changes anything?
	Because it is a dating podcast.
	Do you think that there's any type of positive ripple effects from what you do?
	There's widespread disagreement on the way that people interpersonally connect with each other.
	And I think that arguments are part of the distinction in interpersonal connection.
	So when you talk about dating, this is a really broad scope.
	For example, there's men who have been on this podcast who say they won't date a Democrat.
	There's been Democrat women on the podcast say they won't debate a Republican or date a Republican.
	Well, obviously, that's going to inspire some back and forth where people disagree with each other because it's such a wide scale.
	When it comes to dating, preferences are so widely based that you're going to have arguments and you're going to have them often, just like you do with people you're actually dating.
	That's interpersonal relationships.
	Interpersonal relationships of any kind or interpersonal communication of any kind is going to necessarily lead to argumentation.
	So would you say like this space is just more you guys are holding the space to be able to have these arguments, not necessarily that you guys are advocating for one or the other?
	Well, it's a forum.
	So what happens is you have people who have sometimes adversarial views, sometimes not adversarial views.
	Maybe they have minute disagreements.
	So there's many men like Mason.
	He's one who comes on the podcast quite often.
	He has a nuanced approach to the way that he looks at different things.
	Those arguments are more nuanced, but he has a completely different idea about dating than I would or Brian would or you guys would.
	But these guests, as they interconnect, there's no time I can ever think of where you get eight people in a room and they're going to agree about dating.
	That just seems kind of absurd to me.
	I don't think you'd ever find it anywhere.
	So if you bring kind of eight or ten random people in a room or even six and you start asking them these questions, I think that, yeah, it's going to inspire conversation back and forth, which can end up in adversarial debates.
	Yeah.
	Also, hold on, hold on.
	Just to add on to this, so while the whatever podcast does distribute and publish and create clips of our own, there's also viral clips that do not originate from us too.
	Now, these clips are of the whatever podcast, but it is worth at least pointing out and adding on to what Andrew said is that not all the clips, a lot of these viral clips are third parties that just, even without our permission, I don't really, honestly, I don't really care, but they will make clips from the podcast and distribute them.
	So in terms of like, if there's a criticism as to the selection of these specific clips, not all of the clips originate from our production end.
	But I think Andrew made some fantastic points there.
	Again, though, I would have to hear like a specific like clip that you saw.
	And I'll even grant that, yeah, there's been moments where I've been, I think the word you used was judgmental or harsh.
	Although I would say the good majority of the time, this is in response to somebody being either delusional or they're being rude first or they're being unreasonable first or they're attacking me first.
	Yeah.
	I typically have a rule that I won't attack somebody unless they attack me first.
	Although granted, I mean, there's hundreds and hundreds of hours of the show.
	You can't be 100% perfect all the time, but you'd have to point to a specific clip for me to actually be able to address your criticism.
	Well, to be honest with you, Andrew's answer answered the curiosity question perfectly.
	That was more, was there any specific intent behind any of it?
	And the fact that, as you were saying, it's more so like an open forum just answered for me from my general knowledge of this podcast.
	I guess more so what the motive is, for lack of a better term.
	So it kind of answered my question.
	Well, I'll just double pretty much whatever Andrew said and just add on.
	You mentioned there's a motive.
	I mean, I don't think promiscuity is good.
	So, huh?
	Why?
	Why?
	Yeah.
	Are you pro-promiscuity, or you just want to know why?
	Yeah, I just want to know your, I don't know, justifications.
	Well, I mean, there's plenty of reasons.
	First off, sexually transmitted diseases.
	I'm sure none of us are in favor of that.
	The more sexually promiscuous you are, the higher likelihood of catching or transmitting an STD.
	Secondly, I don't think it makes for a good culture, social cohesion, social fabric.
	And just in terms of my own romantic preferences, and I think the preferences of large swaths of men, men do not want to date promiscuous women.
	So anything we can do to combat promiscuity in both men and women, I think is a net positive for society.
	Also, it's icky.
	Do you give you the ick?
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, make your point.
	Does he give you the ick?
	Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	But not like, I don't think every single OnlyFans model has to engage.
	Hold on.
	Dorsey underscore from underscore has donated $200.
	For once, we have an Australian chick on your podcast who has a brain and can articulate her responses.
	Thank you, mom, from WHO.
	It's really me.
	Yo, Dah, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We had a cool Australian girl last episode, but we've had a string.
	I don't know what's going on.
	A couple not so great Australian guests.
	In any case, go ahead with your.
	Yeah, so I was saying, like, not every, I think, not every OnlyFans model has to engage in like spontaneous sex or something.
	That's not my argument, though.
	Yeah, but you said, like, about the diseases, it's not like.
	Am I able to just debunk that for a moment?
	Just from my background, I think that that's a misconception that a lot of people have about OnlyFans.
	But the matter of the fact is that you do have to do that type of content and it's not Instagram type content.
	It's not fluffy.
	It's not anything like that.
	I don't know if I can say, but it is pornographic content.
	You are a sex worker.
	And that's just a matter of the fact.
	And I think that a lot of people are under the misconception that you can do that type of work and not do that type of stuff.
	But just to make it abundantly clear and evident to do OnlyFans, you most absolutely have to do pornographic content.
	Yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	I was just, yeah, I was just curious.
	Wait, I'm confused.
	Well, I was thinking, like, because I said.
	Why can't you just post pictures and not engage in like social intercourses with other people?
	Well, that's a different conversation.
	So I said that I'm against promiscuity.
	You asked me why, and then you brought it to OnlyFans.
	Yeah, so I was thinking about, I was asking about OnlyFans, but maybe it was unclear what I was saying.
	Promiscuity means that you're going around having sex, right?
	Like with a bunch of people?
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Essentially, yeah.
	True, okay.
	I mean, I was confused about that.
	So you were thinking just like OnlyFans, like online.
	Yeah, I was just, yeah, I was genuinely curious about that.
	I would not say that promiscuity is simply going around having sex, no.
	I would say, for instance, that if you were a stripper, for instance, that you would be being promiscuous and provocative on purpose, even if you weren't having sex with the clients, I would still consider that promiscuity.
	I would consider all sorts of sexual signals to be promiscuity as well.
	I don't think that it requires penetrative sex or sex acts to be promiscuous.
	Yeah, like everyone's Instagrams these days are just covered in half-naked photos of themselves, and that's promiscuous.
	Even if you're not engaging in sex with the people that like your photos, that is promiscuous behavior, and it does say something, and it does affect you and society.
	I think you also have to think about the kind of guy that it will lead you to, because most guys do not appreciate girls sharing their bodies like that.
	So, yes, you only post nudes, you don't do things with people, but that limits your options of men already.
	And those men are probably the more promiscuous kind of guys who do do dirty things that might get you dirty as well.
	But was there an objection there when it came to the promiscuity component?
	No, there was no objection.
	Oh, okay.
	I was just curious.
	Just more, just more curious.
	Okay, I see.
	Yeah.
	Where were we?
	We were.
	You know what?
	Let's do the dating app.
	Or let's do Twitch first.
	How could it be that none of you have a single objection to anything I've said?
	I've said some pretty objectionable things.
	Like, I've said some really objectionable things, and not one.
	Yeah, there we go.
	I knew you'd have.
	Before we get into that, Twitchnick.
	I have one for you.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime Sub if you're watching.
	Guys, there's a thousand viewers if you're not following us already.
	Drop us a follow if you're watching on YouTube.
	Open up another tab.
	Drop us a follow.
	And guys, it's been 13 minutes since we have a prime.
	Can somebody, I think it's bugged.
	Help?
	Maddie?
	Help!
	That's actually her job.
	She just yells help like three times a show.
	It's pretty.
	So it helps out, boys.
	Okay, thank you guys.
	What's your objection to Andrew?
	The fact that you're against us women in ministry, that's my objection.
	You know, we talked about it last time, but yeah, I'm very.
	Well, you're not in ministry.
	You can't be in ministry.
	And if you're pretending that you are in ministry, then you're preaching a demonic gospel.
	Women are not to be in ministry, period.
	Not only can I source this from the Protestant perspective, but I would like to ask you first and foremost if you know anything about church history.
	I want to start with that.
	Before we get into trying to throw Bible verses back and forth, can we just start with church history?
	Do you know anything about church history?
	Yes and no.
	I guess what specifics?
	Are you asking if in the early church were there any apostles that were female?
	Because you asked me.
	No, I'm asking things like, do you know anything about the Great Schism or the Second Schism or any of the councils which the ecumenical councils which were brought together?
	Do you know anything about any of that?
	No, I just know Bible and Bible is that woman.
	So here would be my question to you.
	Why do you follow the Bible if you don't know anything about its history?
	Because I believe in Jesus and Jesus is the word and the word is God and I just follow and I'm learning.
	I'm studying the Bible.
	I haven't read the entire Bible from front to back, but what I have read from it, it does allow women to be in ministry.
	No, it doesn't.
	So hang on.
	Let's back up a little bit.
	Okay.
	What if I told you that throughout the entire history of the church, women were not allowed to be clergy ever until about a few hundred years ago?
	What if I told you that?
	Can I ask you a question?
	Would that would that hang on?
	Would that weigh in?
	I'm not even saying that this is true.
	I'm just saying, let's just say that it were true.
	Would that hold any weight whatsoever in your mind as to whether or not women should have ministries?
	I mean, I would be like, okay, well, in the Bible, does it say that I would just go back to Bible.
	I feel like that's just I always.
	Could I add?
	But here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	How do you know the Bible is true?
	Is it just a feeling?
	It's proven it's true.
	Even like the things that have happened, they could prove that Jesus.
	Well, hang on, let her answer.
	Let her answer.
	Well, yeah, no, so it's not just a feeling, although there are experiences where you could, quote unquote, say that you could feel the Holy Spirit, whatever.
	But as far as the Bible goes, yeah, it's been proven and it's continuously.
	Okay, so let's start with this.
	What's your best proof that Jesus Christ existed?
	That over 500 people saw him after he rose again.
	And there's no hallucinations.
	There is no mass hallucinations.
	There is no, people were drugged up.
	No people saw it.
	It's not a matter of fact if Jesus existed or not.
	The only argument is if he is the true God.
	People exist.
	In every religion, people can look at Jesus and know that he was real and he existed.
	Okay, and Jesus was a conductor of miracles, correct?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So as a conductor of miracles, these were also witnessed, right?
	Yeah.
	And who sourced those miracles?
	Disciples.
	And who else?
	Like men, people.
	And then even people that weren't his disciples, people like the Roman, yeah.
	Like the Romans did?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you look at history books from that time.
	Okay, hang on.
	Hang on.
	I'm not trying to trip you up.
	I'm just trying to kind of walk you through because here's what I've noticed.
	What I've noticed is that when I talk to Protestants, if I ask them kind of basic questions about church history, they can't really answer any of them.
	And I think that that's kind of an important detail, and they just kind of seem to pay it lip service.
	So for instance, the idea, are you a Trinitarian?
	Yes.
	Okay, when did that idea get introduced into Christianity?
	Do you know?
	In the beginning was the word, and then also when Blake.
	When did it get introduced, though?
	When did it get introduced?
	Do you know when the idea itself got introduced?
	Because the church was fighting about this, right?
	There were Unitarians, essentially, under a guy named Arius.
	They were called Arians.
	And they had taken over the entire church.
	They had taken over 90% of it until they had a council, which they finally were able to settle this in.
	And he's just like, you don't know any of that, right?
	No, but I know that in the Bible it talks about...
	Yeah, but don't you think that it's...
	Hold on, hold on.
	But this is why the body of the church is so important.
	No, no, no, because I don't...
	Because the body of the church...
	Hang on.
	Because the body of the church is the conductor of the history of the church.
	They are able to collect this, and then they're able to utilize both tradition and church history in order to convey to you the proper message.
	This original church, the reason you're a Trinitarian is because their council, their council told you that you are to be a Trinitarian as a Christian.
	That's what they, the original church, said to you to do.
	You know what they also told you you can't be?
	What else did they say you can't be?
	The clergyman.
	That's right.
	You can't be clergy.
	So how come we take one part of what they say and you would accept it as being true, but then the other parts that you don't like, you reject only because you just don't like them?
	Interesting.
	Can I, I have three questions/slash points that I have for you.
	Number one, my first question is this: if you don't, are you saying that females in general can't be used by God?
	Because then my question that, okay, that's what I was going to say.
	We have female, there's female saints.
	Well, I was going to say that claim is ridiculous, but hang on.
	There's a difference between that and being clergy.
	Okay.
	Do you understand the difference?
	We're not talking about that.
	So then my second question.
	Well, sorry, I was just going to say that was my first question because then I was going to ask how, what is your interpretation of the significance of the book of Esther, of the book of Ruth and stuff like that, who are very significant women in our faith.
	But if you don't, I guess, discount the fact that they were clergy.
	No, but this was my second.
	That's what I was asking.
	Wait, hang on.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No, but that's what I said.
	My question was.
	The answer is no, they were not clergy.
	Ministry.
	Okay.
	I was going to say, what is your understanding of what ministry is?
	Well, that wasn't my question.
	My question was, do you think that the Lord can use women?
	That was my very specific question.
	It wasn't about clergy.
	It wasn't about ministry.
	That was just my question to clarify, just so I could understand.
	Clarify what?
	We're talking about whether or not women can be clergy.
	Yeah.
	And then my second question is: you said that the church's history is a mix of tradition.
	My question for you is, didn't Jesus come back because he was basically wanting to break that because the Pharisees was just church.
	He said so himself.
	He came to give us his church.
	But wasn't that the issue with the dogmaticness of the Pharisees and that they were all traditional?
	He told his disciples to take his church to all four corners of the world, which is exactly what they did with ministries.
	That's including.
	They did it with ministries.
	Can you name the female minister?
	Can you name the female clergy member?
	Can you name the female that went to any four corners of this earth in order to deliver his message to the world?
	Who was it?
	What was your name?
	I was going to say, I think in the book of Acts, and you could look this up and correct me if I'm wrong.
	I'm not saying specifically ministers that have written scripture, but I'm pretty sure in the book of Acts, it actually does reference women who became believers and then went out and spoke.
	So I'm not too sure if you could look that up.
	That's not clergy.
	But that's what I'm just wondering.
	So are you specifically talking about that?
	I'm just trying to understand.
	And then my third question for you is you were saying that when did the Trinity come into faith?
	I'm just genuinely curious.
	Wouldn't that have been on the day of Pentecost when we start with this?
	Let's start with something super simple.
	Let's go to the Bible.
	Women should keep silent in churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should also be in submission.
	The law also says they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home, for it's improper for a woman to speak in church.
	Yes, the context.
	What does that mean?
	So what they're talking about, I actually just learned this, that the context in that is that the woman should not, the wife should not be interrupting in the middle of sermon, like, hey, husband, what did the pastor mean?
	Like trying to learn from him in the middle and wait till you get home.
	That's both of them sitting in the church and as a husband and wife taking in the sermon.
	What church?
	Well, at that time, like that's...
	Well, wait a second.
	What church?
	What is the church?
	The people.
	The church is the people.
	The church is the people.
	Ah, that's really interesting.
	So if a church is just people, if it's just a, if we're all just the assembly of the church, then this means anytime that you are being ministered to by any man, you should be quiet, right?
	Because everywhere you are, by your logic, would be the church.
	No, interesting.
	Okay, well, then go ahead and I'm waiting for the counter argument because no isn't one.
	Just saying no is not a counter-argument.
	Just being like, no, I don't think so.
	If we had the Apostle Paul and I was with my husband and the Apostle Paul is talking, right?
	Then him and my husband and I were together.
	I'm not going to be interrupting my husband saying, what did he mean when he said this?
	It's like that is saying you go and wait until you're home and get that answer.
	Don't interrupt in church.
	Or interrupt.
	What is church?
	When you're being taught.
	When you're being taught by.
	Yeah, being taught where?
	By who?
	Okay, but that's by someone that's in the church, but that's not saying that the church.
	Well, you keep on saying we're in a church, we're in a church, and a pastor's talking.
	But this building isn't the church, right?
	So, what is the church?
	The church is wherever you bring the word.
	And I think going back in, and I think going back to the church.
	Everywhere you are at all times, you're supposed to be quiet and not correct men, right?
	Not supposed to correct men, and you are supposed to ask who for guidance.
	You're taking it out of context.
	What is happening in that scripture?
	They're not just out in dinner, they're not just out watching a movie, they're not at the mall, they're in a church setting where they're being not the word of the word of God.
	What is that setting?
	Does it require a building?
	It doesn't require a building.
	It doesn't require a building.
	So, wait, so what does it require?
	What is a church setting then?
	What does it require?
	What are the requirements to be at church?
	There's no building required.
	What were those last three words you said?
	Yeah, what is the requirement to be at church?
	What is it?
	I feel like it'd be a way of life.
	A church is a body of people, too.
	I feel like a lot of times.
	Yes, a church is a body of people.
	Yeah, and going back to even you said it, you said Jesus told all his disciples and he told people to go out to the four ends of the earth and tell people about it.
	So, if I'm a woman and the Bible says that, I'm going to do that.
	I'm not going to be like, No, I can't do that because he didn't speak directly to me.
	It says in the Bible, he spoke to his disciples.
	It talks about us, no matter who you are, to go and do that.
	Yeah, and then when Jesus would heal or perform miracles, he would also tell them, You've been healed.
	Now, go.
	Now, go.
	Go tell them.
	Go tell them about the miracles.
	Tell them that I have healed you.
	So, that's what we're talking about: going to share the word of God, going to share our testimonies.
	I'm not sure exactly what your title or your position is.
	What is your position?
	I think he was talking about.
	I have a question.
	So, if we're being nuanced and saying specifically a clergy, because I'm thinking of the woman at the well.
	Hang on.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'm trying.
	Listen, I just wanted to make sure I got all of your answers for the coup de grace.
	I'm sorry.
	Timothy 2:12.
	I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man.
	She must be quiet.
	Oh, snap.
	Interesting.
	I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man.
	She must be quiet.
	But that's over a man.
	Moving on from there, I just read for you.
	Just read for you.
	We agree with that.
	It says over a man.
	To correct, but must ask her husband, right?
	We agree with that.
	In the Bible, it talks about a woman submitting to her husband.
	So if I'm a woman in a relationship and I'm trying to hold her.
	She's not permitted to teach.
	A woman's not permitted to teach.
	What does it mean?
	We got to finish the sentence over a man.
	A woman is not permitted.
	Okay, I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man.
	Period.
	So how can you be a minister?
	You can't assume authority over men.
	I don't know about you guys, but when I'm saying ministry, it's holding Bible study, sharing testimonies, going out there and serving, creating ministries for seniors, whatever it is to go out and help people outreach.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Can I ask you, Andrew, Andrew, Andrew, hold on, no, Andrew, if you bring up our last conversation from a month ago, I had the same stance.
	I'm not going to bring up your conversation from a month ago.
	I'm going to give you a counter argument right now.
	I even just think right now.
	So hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Here's my counter argument.
	So you're out there giving your little ministry, a little Bible study, right?
	And a man comes over and he says, no, you're full of shit.
	That's not what that means.
	You're wrong.
	You are wrong.
	And you are teaching this.
	Hang on.
	You are teaching it falsely.
	Are you allowed to correct him?
	Will he be cussing at me like that?
	That's not fruit of the spirit.
	Yeah, he would be cussing at you like that.
	He's like, You're fucking wrong.
	No, no, no, totally not wrong about that.
	That's not this.
	And that's not.
	Well, wait a second.
	Does it say wait?
	I'm sorry.
	Does it say that he has to come over and be aware of that?
	We also got to be aware of sheeps and he has to be nice and kiss your ass.
	We also got to be aware of sheeps and wolves in wolves' clothing.
	I'm not just going to submit.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I do not permit a woman to teach or assume authority over a man.
	If a man comes over and corrects your teaching, are you allowed to assume a man?
	That doesn't mean an atheist, man.
	You're not answering my question.
	Because you're, I am, but you're not liking my answer.
	No, you literally, I'm going to ask it again.
	This time, answer the actual question I ask you: Are you allowed to assume authority over a man ever?
	No.
	No, are you allowed to teach a man?
	No.
	So if he comes over and corrects you, how could you say you're wrong?
	If he's an atheist, I'm not going to, I'm not going to pay attention to him.
	I'll just ignore him because why would I pay attention to him?
	And if he's a Christian, he's an atheist.
	If he's a Christian, then yeah, that's different.
	I think if he's a Christian, you're never going to correct him.
	No, I'm saying I would submit to him.
	I wouldn't ignore him if he was a Christian man.
	I even think, too, the word comes from a man.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	If that is true, then be quiet the rest of this podcast and never correct another thing I say about theology ever.
	Now, this is just holding you to your own stance, right?
	Everything you say about theology is wrong, and you, by your own stance, cannot correct me without teaching me.
	You're not allowed to do that again by your own stance.
	So you can never say a word about my theology being wrong again, ever, right?
	Okay, Brian, next topic.
	There's actually, no, I want to jump in on this.
	I'd like to answer.
	I'd like an answer to the question.
	Let me go ahead.
	Let her cook.
	Let her cook.
	I think we're getting so off like the topic, like you said, clergy, right?
	I don't need a title to go and speak the word.
	And not only that, like you said, if a man comes to me and he's speaking, saying that's false and everything, my word comes from the man, like from Jesus.
	Like that word was from God.
	So all I can do is give him the word.
	It's not my job to sit there and convince him.
	It's to give him the word.
	It's not to try to convince him.
	Yeah, we could try to tell people, convince them of the word.
	I don't have to sit there and do that.
	The word will convict him himself.
	And it talks about the Bible.
	Don't throw pearls at pigs.
	If they're not receiving it, okay, cool beings.
	I did my part.
	I did what Jesus told me to do, which was spread the word.
	And like I said, I don't need a title.
	I don't need to be like, I'm a pastor, I'm an evangelist, nothing.
	As long as I could go in and speak the word, that's all I care about.
	If I'm spreading the word, I don't need no title.
	When I go and speak places, my name's Alyssa.
	I'm 23.
	There ain't nothing special about me.
	I'm just passionately pursuing the Lord.
	And I'm going to share the word that came from him.
	It's not of my own.
	Woman of the woman at the well.
	That's so, I think that's where we're getting to it.
	Like, you're so stuck on clergy.
	I listened very patiently to everything that you had to say, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay, great.
	Now, do you mind if I cross-examine some of these views?
	Go ahead.
	Okay, great.
	So let's say that you're giving your testimony, which is definitely not ministry, right?
	Because you don't care about titles and stuff.
	It's definitely not ministry.
	And a man comes in who's a Christian and he says, yeah, nope, that's wrong.
	And you disagree with him.
	Are you going to try to correct him?
	No, it's not my job to correct him.
	So it's not your job to correct him.
	What happens if he says, okay, then be silent while I teach the rest of the crowd class?
	Will you allow that?
	Wait.
	So is he a person listening to my testimony or he's running it?
	If he's listening, I. He's listening to it and he stands up and he goes, everything this chick is saying is wrong.
	I'm going to go ahead and teach something totally different than what she's teaching.
	Are you going to allow that?
	I mean, if he's just some random, I mean, at a church just standing up and saying, oh, I'm going to go up there and teach.
	I'm pretty sure not just me, a couple people are not going to let him go up there.
	He's objecting.
	I mean, I'm sharing my perspective and my story of I know the truth of what happened to me.
	I don't need his approval of saying, oh, that's false or that's true.
	Yeah, but are you going to be backing that up with scripture?
	What do you mean?
	Whatever you say your testimony is, you're going to back up with scripture.
	Back up with scripture that he transformed my mind, he transformed my heart.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so how do we know for sure that whatever you're saying according to the gospel is true?
	How do we know?
	You're saying that what I'm backing up my testimony with, if it's true?
	Yeah.
	By my actions, my actions.
	How do we know if it's true?
	Well, wait, no, no, no.
	Hang on.
	We would know, wouldn't we, by appealing again to the gospel itself, right?
	Okay, and the gospel itself says that do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, right?
	Okay.
	I'm a man of God.
	Does it say that or does it not say that?
	Man of God.
	A man of God.
	It talks about a woman submitting to her husband, but it also talks about a husband submitting and serving his wife and not being unequally yoked.
	No, when it comes to mutual submission, I'm happy to get into that next because what is called mutual submission and what you claim is mutual submission are two very, very, very different things.
	So when it comes to mutual submission, man is still the head, the head, and is denoted as being the head.
	When it says mutual submission, we're talking about submission to God.
	What you're submitting to are your duties to God, to your wife.
	She's submitting to God what her duties are to you.
	That is ultimate submission.
	The man is still the head.
	Therefore, the submission is not going to be we're equal.
	That is not what that means.
	Mutual submission does not mean equality nor egalitarianism.
	This is some bullshit that's made up by a bunch of crazy feminist Protestants.
	So moving back, though, away from submission and back to this, you claim that the way that people would know that your testimony was correct is if you could back it with gospel, right?
	Yeah, with gospel and my actions.
	There's a change in the world.
	So the gospel is true.
	The gospel is true, right?
	The gospel of what happened about Jesus, yes, all of that is true.
	No, the entirety of the gospels is true.
	Yes.
	Not just the parts you don't like.
	Yeah, I believe in the Bible 100%.
	Okay, so I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority.
	Can you read the scriptures above that and below?
	She must stand.
	She must be quiet is true, correct?
	Can you read the scriptures above that and below it?
	Yeah, okay, but let's start with: is that true?
	No, you won't.
	Can you read the scriptures?
	Because there's more context to it.
	I can give you a name.
	I'm going to ask you again if that's true.
	If what's true.
	If I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet.
	If it says it, then yes, I believe it.
	Go ahead and read the entirety.
	I'll read it in its entirety for you.
	I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man.
	Rather, she is to remain quiet.
	For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
	So who's the head here?
	Adam.
	Okay.
	And Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became the transgressor.
	So the reason here that he's giving for why it is that women cannot teach is because they are susceptible to deception and so will likely be preaching a false gospel and a false dogma.
	Going on from here, Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived, became the transgressor.
	Yet she'll be saved through childbearing if they continue in faith and love and holiness with self-control.
	So after telling you the reasoning why it is you can't teach, then telling you specifically why you can't teach, it also goes on to tell you the pathway to salvation for how you'd be saved is through childbirth.
	So it's giving you all everything you could ever want right there.
	You're not allowed to teach.
	You're not allowed to be a minister.
	You're not allowed.
	And the reason you're not allowed to assume that head authority role is because women are easily deceived.
	And he points this out by saying, who was deceived by the serpent?
	It was Eve.
	And then Eve was the transgressor against Adam.
	And that is who then went on to deceive Adam.
	Yeah, and I agree with that.
	The man is the head and he submitted.
	But also in the Bible, it talks about there's many men who were deceived as well.
	They were deceived by Satan.
	I'll allow this to go on for another three minutes.
	You guys need to wrap it up.
	All right, right.
	So ministry, though, ministry is serving, serving God, and sharing the word.
	Someone said in the comments, teaching and spreading the word is they're different things.
	And so you can be serving by sharing the gospel, sharing the good news.
	Like you're telling me I'm at a subway and I see someone that's drugged up and in desperate need, I'm going to be like, I can't tell them about the word of God.
	I can't tell them about because I'm a woman.
	That doesn't make any like you.
	No.
	It says, go.
	Quite the sense of pride you have there to decide, arbitrarily arguing with thousands of years church, because the great commission of arguing with what you're righteous anger is righteous anger because the great commission is to go and so I'm gonna.
	I'm not listening to someone taking something out of context and instead I'm going to read.
	Just read it in context.
	But you're talking.
	What we're saying is sharing the gospel, sharing the word, giving someone the hope of Jesus Christ, versus let me teach you.
	The Greek word of ministry, which is to serve, is like, that is different, like I'm not gonna sit here and teach a man on Ephesians 6.
	Whatever, I'm here to share the, the gospel, to serve in ministry, to help those in need.
	Serve in ministry.
	Yeah, that meant that requires teaching.
	Are you allowed to do that?
	No, it does not require to serve in a ministry.
	How are you?
	What are you ministering to?
	How are you sharing the word you share?
	You share the word of God.
	You, you can read the.
	You can read and tell them John 3 16, so you can teach them.
	In Romans it talks about, if you have the gift of serving people, if you have the gift of teaching, if you have the gift of prophecy, go ahead and do that.
	That's what it talks about in Romans, I believe it's 12 or 13.
	Yeah, it talks about that.
	So I mean you could have your own definition of what ministry is.
	We have our own definition.
	I've granted you guys the three minutes.
	So um, did you say you can speak in tongues?
	Yes, last episode I think she can too.
	Can we hear it go ahead?
	I mean, it's not a performance, it's that's the last time.
	I was like uh, I don't feel right.
	Yeah, I have, I speak in tongues, but completely performative.
	Well yeah, I believe tongues is me having intimacy with god.
	That's my prayer language, that's how I pray.
	Intimacy with.
	Do you believe in tongues?
	Do you practice tongues?
	Yeah well, in the scripture, but it says it um, you don't speak in tongues in a public place um, unless there's an interpreter there, and that tongues is only meant to be uh, essentially behind closed doors for ad living what the scripture says, because he even talks about prayer.
	That's actually a pretty base.
	Hang on, that's actually a pretty base.
	Take the thing is, if you're going to channel the language of of uh, the angels, do you think you should have an interpreter there to do it for you?
	If it's done in a public place, in church, otherwise, technically it says you're speaking gibberish and no one knows what you're saying.
	That's right, just speaking gibberish, right?
	If it's done in a public place, that's why you need an interpreter.
	That's why it's done in a personal place.
	Yeah, but they're Pentecostal.
	They do it in public places, right?
	Yeah.
	If we're praying to God, like we're in worship and you're in an intimate moment with God and you're doing that prayer language, yeah, we're not getting on stage and grabbing the mic from our pastor and then all of a sudden speaking in tongues in front of the church.
	Like that's that's different.
	I mean, I could, I still kind of counter that a little bit, even though we're on the same side.
	I mean, when I'm praying sometimes, all of the church and the congregation, yeah, I'll start busting out speaking in tongues because I'm in tune with the Holy Spirit and I'm praying.
	That's my prayer language.
	And if tongues come out, it comes out.
	But I do understand what you're saying too.
	Yeah, it is done in the middle.
	You guys walk around and flap your arms and go, do you do that shit?
	Do you do it?
	Come on, tell the truth.
	Do you do it?
	No, it's flap your arms and go, they talk all fucking weird and you like lose conversation.
	So what do you think kind of costs a load?
	Hang on.
	Do you do, do you do the Jesus wave?
	Do you do the wave?
	Like when they're doing the music, do you go, ah, ah?
	When I'm in worship, yeah, I raise my hands.
	It's a sign of surrender.
	Do you do the wave?
	I don't do a wave.
	I put my hands up in a sign of surrenderance.
	You cherry-picking the stuff that's up there?
	You got your head going back.
	You do that number too?
	Yeah, I do.
	It's not performative, though.
	It's not performative.
	It's not performative.
	It's not a sign of surrenderance to God.
	Okay.
	And I'm not ashamed by it.
	Yeah, I mean, it's fine.
	In Acts, people thought they were drunk, but it was the Holy Spirit.
	So people will mock it.
	People will make it look like that.
	Andrew, did you change your stream setup?
	I noticed you're like looking off to a different monitor.
	Yeah, I got a new camera.
	Oh, new camera.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	Because normally you're like looking dead center.
	But now you're like looking off.
	Well, so the way the Discord is, usually my chair would be higher so I can look straight at the camera.
	But because I have to lower the chair, it looks like I'm looking up the camera.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	If I could raise the chair and you can recenter, then it would be, it would look like I'm looking right at you, which is the point.
	Cool.
	All right.
	Off to something else.
	Let's bring it back to dating.
	Did we pull up the super chat?
	I guess you just pull that shit up.
	I don't know.
	Aaron Forsyth, atheist here, and in all honesty, go ahead, Maddie.
	You got it.
	Your computer's blocking.
	I have to agree with the Bible on women not preaching would be another entitlement for them to yap and yell more.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Aaron Forsyth.
	Appreciate it.
	I agree.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	All right.
	Reminder: TTS's 200 read is 100.
	Thank you, Aaron.
	Much appreciated.
	Like the video, guys.
	Like the video if you can.
	Those of you watching on the live stream, hit that like button.
	Let's get us to 2,000 likes.
	Get us to 2,000 likes.
	We currently have 5,000 people watching.
	Also, stay safe raided us.
	Yeah.
	By the way, stay safe.
	I was gone when you raided.
	Apologies for that.
	Hope you had a good stream, man.
	Thank you very much for the raid.
	I know I'm 30 minutes late, but appreciate it, bro.
	Okay, so let's get into some more of the pre-show notes.
	Got most of the stuff with Alyssa.
	We have Michaela.
	You said going on dates with guys that were really.
	I should just wait until she's back.
	Hold on.
	One sec.
	You had a hot day.
	Christians should judge.
	Anyone who says, thou shalt not judge to Christians when they're being called out deserves even harsher judgment, in my opinion, because they're just trying to deflect.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course Christians should judge.
	People take one verse that's in the context of the entire verse, it's actually talking about hypocritical judgment.
	Not you can't judge every single thing that you look at and you assess, you're making judgments constantly.
	And Christians are called to judge righteously.
	Okay, so you are supposed to judge.
	And I think if people, I think people who are doing stupid things, they love to throw out that verse to Christians as the first thing they do.
	Thou shalt not judge.
	It's not even in the Ten Commandments.
	They word it wrong and they tell us not to judge, so it just makes me judge them more.
	Okay.
	You also said that feminism is cancer.
	Yeah, I did, actually.
	And I said that even actually last time.
	But yeah, feminism is.
	I think it's destroying.
	I think it's one of the reasons why people are struggling to date is because feminism has morphed into this.
	I can't speak for the entirety of it because, to be honest, it's not something I study because I'm not interested in it.
	But I do see the side effects, especially with young women.
	I see women just normalizing, man-hating, and desensitizing each other to it by constantly joking about it.
	But it does actually affect people in society.
	And I think women are starting to have no problem openly hating men.
	Men are getting pissed off, and men are not wanting to respond to that in a nice way.
	And then it's just causing arguments and fights.
	I think women are meant to be more submissive, and it's one of the reasons why feminism is cancerous, because it's not submissiveness.
	Okay.
	Yeah, it's not.
	And you also said, not really dating related, but college is a brainwashing, predatory financial scam.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, of course I worded it in that way to be a little bit of a hot take, right?
	But I do think the way the college is set up is absolutely psychotic.
	I think it's about the average 25-year-old college student, I think 24, 25, is at least in $45,000 of debt, at least.
	And that's median, I believe, which is crazy.
	And then in these colleges, I mean, they're encouraged to, you know, focus on these degrees, which is costing them extra money.
	Or majors, rather, get certificates and stuff.
	When honestly, you could go to, there's, I think there's 24 states where there are community colleges that actually allow you to get your bachelor's degree through that, and you could save up to $30,000.
	And going to these universities ends up being this like sheep mindset that it just puts all these people together and teaches them the culture just teaches these people to be to think one way.
	And that way, unfortunately, I think it's causing the downfall of our society.
	It's kind of like a weird, predatory financial babysitting scheme.
	Of course, you have to go to college if you need to get a degree to be a doctor and whatnot.
	I'm not stupid.
	I know that.
	It's just, I think in general, people go there because they don't know what to do next.
	And they are screwing their own life up.
	And being that much in debt, people don't want to marry you if you're in $50,000 of debt.
	That's stressful.
	Financial issues is one of the huge reasons marriages break up and people divorce is stressed from that.
	All right.
	And then you wanted to talk about bringing it back to dating related.
	Going on dates with guys that were really nice, but the chemistry wasn't there made me feel guilty when I had when I'd end things with them.
	I never could let them pay for me if it was a one-off date.
	I even agreed to be someone's girlfriend once, went on a few dates over the course of a month, felt so guilty when the chemistry didn't happen that I tried to offer to pay him back for the dates and flowers.
	He didn't let me pay.
	He didn't let me pay back because he was really nice.
	Yeah, and in the past, I've never dated a stranger in my life.
	They've always been like a male friend that I met through school or whatnot, or someone I knew from family friends.
	And so I knew who they were.
	They were nice, and maybe they'd take me on a date, and I just felt didn't feel the chemistry.
	And it's not a matter of like, I care so much about, oh, 50-50, split the bill.
	I don't care, but I do feel bad.
	Like, when I realize after this dinner, I don't want to do anything else with you.
	Like, I don't want to pursue this.
	Then I don't want to let them pay for me.
	I mean, obviously, this is in the past.
	I'm married now.
	And yeah, I've even gone to a dinner date and I didn't even end up eating because I felt so bad.
	But I just didn't want to reject them.
	I mean, I'm older now, so I'm more mature now.
	So, but they were so nice, and I thought, you know, it's potentially I'd be willing to try it out.
	But yeah, that's the thing is, I don't feel like a, I don't feel entitled to people buying me dinner when I realize like the chemistry is not there and we're not going to do it again.
	That's true.
	I agree.
	I don't feel entitled to that.
	I never felt that way.
	So this guy that you said with guys.
	So this has happened to you multiple times, correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And were these attractive guys?
	Yes.
	They were nice.
	Yeah.
	Treated you well.
	Yeah.
	But there wasn't chemistry.
	Yeah.
	So what does that even mean, chemistry?
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's the thing.
	You know, there's really no way to simply explain chemistry.
	I guess to simplify it, we'll just say attraction.
	Because somebody could have.
	You said they were physically attractive.
	And they were pleasant.
	You can be very physically attractive, but for some reason, it's just not clicking.
	And you know that's true.
	Well, you see gorgeous women.
	Not from the male perspective.
	Okay.
	Not from the male perspective.
	Yeah, I'm interested to hear.
	From the female perspective, you hear this shit all the time.
	He was the perfect package.
	He was good looking, attractive, had a job, good personality.
	Right.
	But just there wasn't the chemistry, there wasn't the vibe, there wasn't the click.
	Yeah, it happens.
	Yeah, this is women's desire for a guy who treats them poorly, essentially.
	No, actually, what it was.
	It is.
	No, actually.
	First of all, no.
	Yes.
	I was very young.
	I was 17 years old, 18 years old.
	And I realized that if I was going to be in a relationship that would one day develop into marriage, that's a long time to spend with somebody when you're that young because you don't get married at 18, 19, 20.
	So I didn't want to waste their time.
	And what did I do?
	I paid for my meal.
	I didn't make them pay for me.
	So I think that's the polite thing to do.
	I just think I just think that's an uncommon thing because an uncommon thing is even I've noticed a lot of like hardcore feminists still think that their meals should be paid for for these guys and they owe them nothing.
	And I'm not talking about an exchange of carnal knowledge or anything crazy like that, but I just personally think if the date doesn't work out and you know in your heart you're not, you're not gonna, you're not feeling it, okay?
	It happens.
	Big deal.
	Big well, cry about it.
	It happens.
	I think it is polite to pay your own bill and not make them pay for you.
	I just think that's super rude.
	I would never be able to let them pay.
	Okay, but I don't really, I'm, so I'm not really trying to argue the whole money component to this.
	I'm more so interested in this whole like he's attractive, he's pleasant, good personality, treats you well.
	Yes.
	But there's just not that click, the vibe, the chemistry.
	Even if their personalities, they're not like weird or they're just good people.
	Don't you have people you're not friends with because you guys just don't vibe?
	What?
	Like there's a group of people that you're doing.
	You're talking about dating.
	I know, but it's the same thing, human interaction.
	Like, like, you and I were not, we wouldn't hang, okay, like, would you a girl?
	I don't know.
	There's, you and I, like, I don't know.
	Okay, I don't want to be paying anybody out, but there's certain people you just won't, you don't vibe with, you don't hang out with.
	It's not that they're bad people or there's something wrong about them.
	You just don't click.
	That's why there's clicks in school.
	That's why there's same person.
	This actually isn't true.
	So, I mean, at least from the male perspective.
	So, I mean, I can let you finish if I didn't mean to cut you off if you wanted to.
	Well, no, I'm just, I agree with her.
	It happened to me, like, recently, where I met up with someone and I'm like, oh, I already know.
	And I ended up paying for myself because I. You already knew.
	There was a chemistry.
	What do you do to create the click, the vibe, the chemistry?
	Because it always seems like it's the men that have to be conducting themselves in a certain way in order to elicit that.
	It's actually obnoxious.
	It's actually obnoxious.
	I think.
	What's obnoxious?
	It's obnoxious when people are just, and I know it happens, and I understand why people do it, but that people are so formal and fake during dates.
	Now, I'm all for formality and all that, but I, no, you don't need to conduct yourself in a certain way.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	But he's asking, like, what do we do in order to create chemistry?
	See, because the vibe and the chemistry, the vibe is only something that is elicited by the male.
	No, you make jokes with him because he doesn't think that's what you're saying.
	It's you guys who feel like it's you guys who feel the chemistry or the click or the vibe.
	You know, when you're making eye contact with somebody when you're on a date and you just feel something, you either do or you don't.
	So you wouldn't date a guy whose eye contact was weak then?
	You're so, you're so funny, and you're really good.
	You're really good at breaking these things.
	You're really good at breaking these things down.
	But the truth is, if I just picked the first guy that I went on a date with, because I've never gone on a date with a weird guy ever.
	And I didn't date a lot, but they were my friends.
	And I give them a chance because they were interested.
	And I didn't know.
	Did you say you were in favor of arranged marriage?
	What if there's no chemistry or the click or the vibe in an arranged marriage?
	This is a different subject.
	And I actually think that.
	Hold on.
	Have you ever had amazing chemistry, amazing vibe, amazing click with a guy who a week, a month, three months, a year down the road was a terrible fucking person and treated you like shit?
	So is it I'm not arguing?
	I'm not arguing that you should only 100%.
	Right.
	I'm not arguing that connection is what makes a healthy marriage.
	That is a way bigger.
	Right, but why can't that just be something that develops?
	Oh, I didn't feel that in five minutes.
	Oh, yeah.
	So I'm going to go chase the guy.
	I'm arguing with the wall right now.
	Hold on.
	The guy who's capable of eliciting the chemistry, the click, the vibe, he can elicit that in all the other women too.
	So women will overlook the guy who's actually good for them, right match because there's not this like vague ethereal chemistry click vibe.
	I'm thinking also physical physical attraction.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Okay.
	What are you talking about?
	Women will frequently say he was perfect in every way.
	Good looking.
	You know, physically good looking, body good, face good, good personality, nice, has a job, no red flags, everything.
	But despite this, I still wasn't attracted to him.
	You can't point me to a man who's like, she's beautiful, beautiful.
	She was into me, really into me.
	Really into me.
	Great personality, wonderful personality, big tits, big ass, whatever it is.
	But I just didn't.
	She was a 10 out of 10 in looks.
	And she had her shit together.
	And she had a pleasant personality.
	She was submissive.
	But I just didn't feel the, there wasn't the click.
	I didn't feel.
	I said no man ever.
	And what?
	So women and men are different, okay?
	I mean, men and women are different.
	Wait, that's where you attracted.
	I'm sorry.
	Were you attracted to the try?
	Physically or no?
	Right, but there's this component.
	There is this trope of women being attracted to like the bad boys, the churches.
	You want to bring that up.
	That's an interesting subject to bring up.
	Definitely, yeah, that's real because nothing that's too perfect.
	I'm just saying, it's hard to be attracted to something that's too perfect.
	You need a little bit of rough around the edges.
	And some people don't like that because it's dynamic, you know, and life is long, and you want to be with someone that's can be hot and cold and interesting.
	I don't mean I don't want that.
	That's okay.
	I don't mean toxic.
	Let me walk that back hot and cold.
	I don't mean bipolar disorder.
	I just mean someone that will challenge you sometimes.
	And I don't like men.
	Yes, dear men.
	For me, that doesn't work.
	And I know you're upset about that because you're saying that's not fair because these men are so perfect and these women still don't feel it.
	But there's a lot of women out there and there's a lot of men out there.
	Sometimes it's going to work and sometimes it's not.
	I have a question.
	And it can be unfortunate.
	I actually think this is a pet pathology among women, this attraction to bad boys, jerks, assholes.
	It's absolutely pathology.
	You guys should see therapists.
	What's wrong with that?
	What's wrong with that?
	It's very toxic.
	What's wrong with that?
	So you spend your 20s fucking the jerks, bad boys, asshole.
	That's what happens.
	And then you wait until you're 30.
	You settle for a nice guy.
	And then you ultimately resent him because he can't excite you in the ways that you've wired your brain to be excited in all your past relationships.
	Your pair bonding is absolutely scuffed.
	And then you end up divorcing him after a couple years.
	That's a horrible.
	Why are you telling such a matter of fact?
	This happens all the time.
	This is like a really sad rom-con.
	Yes, this is so comic.
	All the time.
	It is unfortunate.
	I don't live in La La Land, but I mean, what are you going to do?
	Like, what are you going to do?
	What are you going to do about it?
	I mean, we can just talk about it.
	I'm just saying.
	So, what you're saying is: if I'm going, if I go back in time and I'm 18 years old, 17 years old, and I was on a date with a friend, a male friend who asked me out, and I wanted, and I wanted to see, you know, if it could go somewhere, I chose not to.
	I paid him back for the dinner, or I paid for my half or whatever, and we kind of remained awkward friends until he drifted away because he didn't really like that.
	I mean, what of it?
	Like, what's the big deal?
	Should I go back in time and be with him?
	Is that the right thing to do?
	Just because he's lovely?
	I mean, seriously.
	Well, I'm speaking in generalities here.
	I'm noticing a trend.
	And so.
	You obviously can't go back and go select the guy who was perfect in every way, but there just wasn't the chemistry, the vibe.
	Also, frankly, I don't even know what that really means.
	Further, it can be something that develops over time.
	I actually believe that.
	It's essentially, do you guys believe it?
	Love at first.
	That's essentially love at first sight.
	No, no, I know what you're saying, and I agree.
	And I actually do think that for a lot of people, arranged marriages would be a good option.
	And no, you're not going to get into an arranged marriage and immediately be attracted to someone.
	I think that it growing is healthy because that connection, connection, sweet, like that kind of thing does not make a marriage last.
	Not even little.
	It's not about the emotional connection.
	So let me ask the whole panel here some questions.
	Do you think if a girl had a standard of I have to fall in love with him within five minutes of meeting, is that a reasonable standard?
	No, no.
	Right.
	Okay, so if we're looking at the spectrum of he's super boring, he's super boring on this end, and love at first sight on this end.
	Click chemistry vibe within five minutes is somewhere maybe not precisely in the middle.
	So you're getting on the spectrum of just being delusional in your expectations of men.
	No, I mean because you're rejecting men who would otherwise be good partners because they weren't able to trigger something in you immediately.
	That's why you keep ending up with fuck boys and jerks and assholes.
	No, I think that's true.
	Because the guys who are capable of eliciting that, look, there are good guys who can elicit this too.
	I am married.
	This is not a precise criticism of her.
	It's just a raw, generalized statement here.
	So, yeah, you guys have this expectation that there's like a click that needs to be instantaneous.
	Well, why?
	Why does there need to be an instantaneous click?
	I was more so thinking, I was more so thinking about like physical attraction.
	So you were physically attracted.
	I'm talking about physical.
	I think we should be attracted.
	I'm not physically attracted, but when I met my husband, I didn't have a chance.
	He's good looking.
	He's got a job.
	He treats me well, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	He's not weird or creepy or anything.
	He's just like maybe a bit dull or whatever.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You'll reject a guy.
	There's trouble with dating people.
	That's the thing.
	My husband, when I met him, I didn't have that click and attraction.
	I knew him for a year, hardly even platonically.
	We were talking in a professional setting.
	And oh, yeah, but the guy's like 96, right?
	How old are you, Andrew?
	I'm like 96.
	Yeah.
	So we're the same age.
	So you have a problem with age gap relationships.
	Is that it?
	No, I don't have any problem with that.
	There's nothing to make fun of.
	And by the way, it's not 96.
	Not even close.
	And you know what?
	That would that is crazy.
	I think people lady, calm down.
	It was a joke to lighten the mood.
	It was a joke to lighten the mood.
	Andrew.
	It's okay.
	It's okay.
	I accept your agest joke against my husband.
	I accept it.
	Is it agent?
	My agest joke?
	It's so agest.
	Was it a picture?
	It's such a man-hating feminist joke that you just made.
	Hey, hey, when your friends say, How's your old man?
	They really mean, how's your old man, right?
	That's what they really mean.
	How's your old man doing?
	You're like, well, looking better and younger than most of us.
	So back to the 20s.
	So back to the story.
	That's how he's doing.
	So back to the topic at hand.
	So I'll just like, I'll do a comparison here in terms of descriptors.
	So it's like this whole like, but there wasn't the vibe, but he was perfect in every way.
	So you met a guy who checks all the boxes, tall, handsome, fit, successful, kind, generous, nice, well-adjusted, good personality, emotionally available, but there just wasn't the chemistry click vibe.
	If we reverse this, it would be about as R-Slurred as me saying, I met a girl who checks all my boxes, who is beautiful, great body, perfect boobs, perfect ass, feminine, submissive, kind, nurturing, pleasant, but there just wasn't the click.
	I would be delusional to disregard a woman who had all these qualities because there wasn't an immediate.
	Have you ever gone on a date with a woman and she was gorgeous, nice, sweet, friendly, and then you didn't end up in a relationship with her because you just weren't that interested after the date?
	Has that ever happened?
	It's not that complicated.
	Have you ever gone on a date with a woman that was pretty great?
	But you didn't feel it.
	And then you didn't want to be a little bit more than a moment.
	So she was desirous of pursuing a relationship with me.
	Well, if you're on a date, isn't that not what a date is?
	For?
	Okay, so she was just constantly hitting me up and I was curving her.
	Why are you saying all these extra steps?
	What do you mean?
	Right.
	No, that's literally never happened.
	Never.
	It's literally never happened.
	Everything I've been on a date with, that was pleasant and you had a relationship with her after you actually.
	Well, who said that she's not able to reject me?
	Oh, is that why you're upset?
	You triggered him.
	Okay, well, there's the typical feminist shame, insults, need to be ready.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	But so you asked me, hold on.
	You asked me if I've ever been.
	Do you think every date a guy goes on, he's going to close 100% of the dates?
	Do you think a guy can close 100% of the dates he's been on?
	Are you delusional?
	What are you talking about?
	I am sympathetic in fact that sometimes girls reject guys.
	I'll just answer your question.
	So if the girl is interested in me and she has all those criteria, yes, I dated all of them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's great.
	You know, I do think it is too bad, but I think ultimately there should be.
	But why did it end up working out?
	It just didn't end up working out.
	Something that I do is I like to help talk to women on my channel on my YouTube channel once in a while because mainly my audience is men because I talk about watches, boring, whatever.
	But sometimes I try to talk to them about what men want in relationships.
	And I do think rejecting someone just because you don't immediately have a vibe is silly.
	I was 17 years old.
	That's an old story.
	If women in general are doing this, you're using that story as an example of how women are in general.
	Yeah, I mean, I think women should give men more of a chance.
	But I mean, what are you going to do after some time dating someone and you never have that connection?
	I mean, you just don't marry everyone that you date, even if they're pretty awesome.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	I honestly think it kind of makes sense for women to do that because if they don't feel the click or whatever attraction trigger right away, what else are they going to do to like pursue you and show interest in you and actually like carry on the relationship if they're not interested in you in the first place?
	They're just going to do nothing.
	Right.
	So, I mean, it's not a, I mean, women are going to act how they're going to act.
	Like, it's not going to change.
	I'm just saying it's honestly a pathology.
	It is.
	That's my argument.
	It's literally a pathology.
	This is actually something that's studied.
	There's this term called habristophilia, where women are actually attracted to criminal behavior in men.
	You don't see this manifesting itself nearly to the same degree in men, for example, who are attracted to women who are drug dealers, the pagans.
	Thank you, pig.
	Woman on the panel speaking of the vibe, this is exactly what players do.
	Talk the game, feed you the vibes, and bam, take advantage.
	Bang and ghost.
	You are being grifted.
	Grifted.
	Who is this?
	All right, thank you, the pagan.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Appreciate it.
	I literally said to pay.
	Can we fuck the date if it doesn't work?
	How is that growing?
	There's this quote by Cheryl Sandberg, I think.
	I don't even understand.
	Did you say silly goose?
	Silly goose.
	I don't.
	About dating bad boys or something.
	Did you learn that from the 96-year-old you dating?
	I think her name is Cheryl.
	It's a pretty old shit.
	Andrew, I was a nanny.
	I was a nanny for many years.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I love kids, so I, you know, silly goose, it works.
	Dating.
	It usually de-escalates people, too, because it's ridiculous.
	Do you have the Pinterest thing or the AZ quote?
	Can I ask you, though?
	You said that these guys were your friends before.
	You always knew these guys before you agreed to date.
	So wouldn't you have already known that there wasn't that romantic vibe?
	Well, that's the thing is, I didn't have that immediate click and connection as we were friends, but I still gave it a chance because they were really nice.
	And if sometimes you give something a chance and it doesn't work, I didn't say no immediately.
	I still let it.
	I still tried.
	I think that's how men and women are different is men.
	All the women around them, they always think like, yeah, I'd do her.
	No, I wouldn't do her.
	And women don't necessarily think that way.
	So like for me, like most of my guy friends growing up, I knew, no, I don't want to date any of you guys.
	You guys are my friends.
	Like I don't want to have any of that boundary breaking because I know I wouldn't click with you.
	What do you guys think?
	The men, the men, what do you think?
	Do you think that men and women can just genuinely be friends?
	Yeah, that's pretty cool.
	Without at least.
	Women can be friends with men.
	Men cannot be friends with women.
	So if you had a girlfriend, would you be okay if she had male friends?
	Generally speaking, what's that?
	If you had a girlfriend and she was great, everything was great between you two, but she had male friends.
	Unacceptable.
	Unacceptable.
	I understand that.
	I think when you're married or, you know, you don't want to be married, it's fine.
	When you're committed to somebody, I think it's okay to have a couple friends and there's like a couple and you guys can all do steps together.
	Yeah, but I do also agree that men and women can't really just be genuinely friends without their being a friend.
	Yeah, can you pull it up, please?
	Yeah, I just want to make sure this is right.
	Well, Go to here.
	I mean, can you go to the actual thing?
	Like, go to images.
	It should be AZ quotes when looking for a life partner.
	Can you get it quick if you can?
	while you're doing that.
	Hold on. That'll do.
	Cheryl Sandberg, I guess she was the VP.
	Isn't she working for Facebook or Yahoo or some shit?
	In any case, she wrote a book.
	When looking for a life partner, my advice to women is date all of them.
	The bad boys, the cool boys, the commitment phobic boys, the crazy boys, but do not marry them.
	The things that make the bad boys sexy do not make them good husbands.
	When it comes time to settle down, find someone who wants an equal partner, someone who thinks women should be smart, opinionated, and ambitious, someone who values fairness and expects, or even better, wants to do his share in the home.
	These men exist, and trust me, over time, nothing is sexier.
	Wow, that is...
	It's that last part, over time.
	I don't think you should date all the guys beforehand.
	Right.
	I mean, that's certainly my disagreement there.
	I mean, that's essentially what happens.
	So you'll date these guys, treat you poorly, whatever, get a bunch of baggage along the way, and then you finally settle down with the guy who you actually think is below you, who's out of your league, but he's there.
	He will give you commitment.
	He'll give you what's the term?
	Stability, I guess, from your previously extremely chaotic, romantic, and sex life.
	And then eventually you divorce him.
	And I think that's basically how that plays out.
	That's terrible advice.
	I would never ever take advice from someone whose life is not the type of life I would want to live.
	I think that's safe to say in every scenario.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	Would you say that you're high maintenance?
	Oh, 100%.
	Yeah.
	But I think not high maintenance in the sense of I need other people to maintain me.
	I take a lot to maintain myself.
	And I'm not talking about going and getting my nails done.
	I'm talking about just a lot of mental stuff and learning and alone time to ponder things.
	I've been kind of scouting through your YouTube channel here.
	And it seems like you talk a lot about having an elegant lifestyle and how elegant and great the lifestyle is that you have.
	Not necessarily.
	And then at the same time, you're kind of saying that women shouldn't be brats and shouldn't be so high maintenance, but you sure appear like you're kind of high maintenance, to be honest with you.
	Thank you.
	I don't know.
	Is that a compliment?
	It's not an insult, actually.
	My most recent video is prescribing to men and women to become more high maintenance.
	Because I think it weeds out.
	Oh, I thought a second ago you weren't high maintenance.
	No, no, I said I wasn't okay.
	No, I said I was.
	I said I wasn't.
	You misheard me.
	I said I was high maintenance.
	No, I am.
	I didn't mishear you because earlier in the conversation with Brian, you said that women need to stop being so high maintenance.
	No, I didn't.
	Now I did not say those words.
	And in fact, one portion of the conversation was specifically about this.
	You're arguing.
	You might say that, but high maintenance is not the term I use and the verbiage is important.
	Not saying it's not the term you use, but you're still alluding to the same thing.
	Well, being high maintenance, I'm talking about maintaining yourself, which I get into in that video, which I'm sure you're not interested in watching.
	It's totally fine.
	But I'm not talking about other people having to do a lot to maintain you.
	I'm talking about maintaining yourself highly.
	I'm talking about not being a slob, not being lazy.
	And by the way, just to clarify, my channel is not showing how elegant I think my lifestyle is.
	It's actually trying to encourage other people to at least embark on a more elegant life.
	And I personally think that will bring people a lot more happiness.
	Oh, it's a very, very long story.
	And I think that Brian will fall asleep if you want to.
	What's the reader's digest version?
	Well, I think that.
	And if you don't know what the reader's digest version is, you can take a second to text a 96-year-old guy that you're with.
	He'll tell you what a reader's digest is if you don't know what it is.
	But basically, we're taking long story.
	I'm 20.
	And we're going to condense it down so that we all know what it is very quickly.
	I'm 28.
	I'm not a child.
	I know what Reader's Digest is, okay?
	My grandmother had it in her house.
	Oh, that's fair.
	Yeah, my husband is extremely intelligent, and he's very not reading Reader's Digest, but whatever.
	Just to summarize, I think that the world has become more and more casual.
	And I think the casualization of society is actually part of the downfall of society.
	And that's why I think elegance, to me, elegance means wholesomeness.
	It means doing things properly, doing things well, caring about the way you speak and treat others, good manners, making other people comfortable.
	That's the way that society can coexist together properly, and we've lost that largely.
	I do.
	I'm arguing with a bunch of men on a podcast.
	Andrew, I'm here to help make this show, right?
	And if I'm just sitting here with my mouth shut, there's no, it's not entertaining.
	I'm here to talk.
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	I agree that that's true.
	I'm not disputing.
	I'm not sure if you're a man.
	I'm not a bad thing about the idea of elegance.
	I don't think that the way that I've been explaining myself has been inelegant in any way.
	I don't think elegance means necessarily being silent.
	Well, I mean, do you think that elegance means articulation or articulance?
	Because I don't think that those are the same words.
	So, yeah, you might have articulated yourself well, but what does that have to do with elegance?
	Elegance, it's basically just the entirety of who you are.
	It's the entirety of what you believe in.
	It's like basically good manners and good etiquette combined, and then also just generally carrying yourself in a way that's respectable.
	And I think a lot of people are sloppy, lazy, disgusting, gross, and it's ruining our society.
	And I think it's also, let's be honest, men don't want to be with a woman that's sloppy and gross.
	Most men probably wouldn't want to be with a kind of a prissy person like myself.
	That's fine because I found somebody that absolutely cherishes it and nurtures that.
	But I do think that elegance doesn't mean having a bad attitude and being snotty.
	It's about being conscientious and being kind.
	And also saying no, having boundaries.
	Because I think being just someone that gets walked all over, that's a low-maintenance person, and that's not elegant.
	So it takes a long time to explain this.
	It's not a simple concept.
	And again, I don't want to put everyone to sleep here.
	Yapping.
	That would have been nice.
	Right.
	Yeah, I tried not to, but then he pursued it.
	Sorry.
	I did ask for the Reader's Digest version.
	Right.
	And how long did I just talk?
	Two minutes?
	I don't know.
	It was a lot longer than any Reader's Digest article I've read.
	I don't know.
	I haven't really sat there and read Reader's Digest.
	I just know about it.
	Just like cassette tapes.
	I know about those.
	They do exist.
	I know about them.
	Moving things on then, also in your pre-show notes, you said women should dress and behave the way a man wants, obviously within logical reason, to attract a man.
	Why not?
	Do you want to be married or taken by a man?
	Then it only makes sense to be someone he wants to be with.
	Some people might take that too far and pretend to be someone they're not.
	And that's not what I'm suggesting.
	If a man likes red lipstick, wear it.
	If he likes heels, wear them.
	It's not rocket science.
	It's widely accepted that the woman can change how a man dresses, behaves, domesticate him, etc.
	Correct.
	Yeah.
	I don't think you can.
	Yeah, if you say that the woman should bow, I think she should.
	I agree.
	I 100% agree.
	I think it's ridiculous.
	I think it's women, and men can be this way too, but we're talking about women right now.
	Women are very delusional.
	I don't know why they.
	If you want to attract a man, you have to do what he wants.
	Sometimes you don't know, but you can listen.
	And that's the thing is, I do think the art of seduction, and in a more innocent way, I don't mean necessarily in a sexual way, but the art of seduction, I think, does require a woman's pursuit like Andrew was talking about earlier.
	It's the signals.
	And I think the way that you're dressing and presenting yourself to please him is a way that you pursue a man, and it's one of the signals.
	Yeah.
	Why not?
	Word?
	Okay, cool.
	All right.
	Then anyone object?
	Have objections to her thing?
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Bringing it to Ashley.
	Not really dating related.
	I just saw this really quickly on your Instagram.
	You like to talk to people in the sauna?
	Yeah.
	The fuck?
	You talk to people in the sauna?
	Yeah, it's actually a really good opportunity.
	Like, do you go to a sauna at the gym?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Like, after my workout, I'll go sometimes or before.
	I think it's rude to talk to people in the sauna.
	No, I'm very aware.
	Like, if I'm not going to just talk to everybody, I'm not that person because sometimes I don't want to be talked to.
	And so I do my cues of, like, I'm in my zone.
	But if people are like, good morning, I'm like, oh, good morning.
	And they're still, you know, I'm like, I'm socially aware.
	But yeah, I like conversations in the sauna.
	All right.
	Anyways, I'm going to linger on that one.
	Last time you were on, I think, what was the big thing that we got into a debate about?
	Was it the bullet thing?
	Was it the bullet?
	Okay, you know what?
	It was about war and victims, right?
	I remember that.
	We hit the bullet like this episode.
	Yeah, you know what?
	After watching it and talking to some friends, I want to revert back and say, yes, men are actually the main victim in war.
	And I'm sorry.
	Oh, I appreciate your apology.
	Deeply hurt.
	Wow.
	I know you guys were really hurting on that one.
	Yeah.
	That was an intense show.
	I watched that one.
	Speaking of which, I'll just ask that question really quickly since you brought it up.
	Just going around the table, who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	Men.
	Men.
	Into the mics, please.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, men.
	Men.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Okay.
	But didn't we get into the bullet stuff?
	Like a man sacrificing his life for his girlfriend or wife?
	Did we get into that?
	I don't know if we did.
	I probably did.
	I don't remember.
	But what about it?
	Fixed, please.
	But what about, I don't know, I don't remember.
	We probably did, though.
	What's the argument?
	I don't know.
	Is that, do you recall us getting into that?
	No, I don't remember that.
	No.
	Just trying to remember.
	Okay.
	So, hmm.
	I thought we got into that, but maybe that was a different show.
	You said in your pre-show notes that you're conservative, traditional, but you were extremely liberal in the past.
	Lying, manipulating, getting into trouble.
	Did you say that?
	I don't know.
	Bad girl.
	I was a really bad girl, like, growing up, yeah.
	You said you wanted to talk about ho phases, is that correct?
	This is like old show notes.
	What's up with the new show notes?
	I'll get to that.
	I'm breaking up the old ones.
	I'll get to those.
	Did I say that?
	Were there previous ho phases?
	Oh, yeah.
	You had ho phases.
	I had ho phases.
	What did the hoe phase look like?
	It was like after high school.
	I got out of that four-year relationship, and it was like my first dark relationship or abusive relationship.
	And so I kind of went like F it, you know, and I was very far from God.
	I didn't grow up with God in my life at all, so I had no sense of anything.
	And so, yeah.
	Okay.
	You said recommitting to sex until marriage, not in favor of sex outside of marriage, although you have had.
	Yeah, and I see the repercussions and the negative consequences of that.
	Yeah, okay.
	And so I could tell this is Suzanne about a drink.
	You're about to grill me, huh?
	Well, not necessarily.
	I mean, so I do hear it a lot from a lot of women, some secular, some religious, some newly religious.
	They had a bunch of sex.
	Now they want to wait months or even until marriage to have sex.
	And I've always actually, I know there's an argument here somewhere.
	I just, I've always struggled to actually articulate why it bothers me and why it seems a bit unfair.
	And I've used analogies, some fantastic analogies, but I'm still trying to actually figure out, put it into words, why it bothers me.
	Well, I think I've heard you say, sorry, go ahead.
	You can finish.
	Sorry.
	No, I mean, I'm.
	Can I take a stab at it?
	Yeah.
	Can I have a second?
	And Andrew.
	I know that it's not even your position.
	I don't think it bothers you.
	It bothers you at all for a woman who was previously promiscuous to actually make an immediate change and say, I'm waiting until marriage.
	I think you're in a white side.
	I think it's like the greatest thing ever.
	I wish that for all women and men, by the way.
	So, no, it not only doesn't bother me, but that's the pathway I'd rather see him go down.
	But I still think I understand the perspective.
	And maybe I can articulate this.
	I can.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I think that from Brian's perspective and from many men who share this view, what they're actually saying is, why him?
	Yeah.
	Why is it that I'm not good enough for you, but he was good enough for you?
	Why is it that you refuse to have an intimate relationship with me, but would allow yourself to be cheapened by him?
	What sort of person are you that you would think so lowly of me, but think so highly of him?
	And I think that not only is this objection a good objection, and it's a well-reasoned objection, but it's actually a difficult one to argue with.
	It's actually.
	It's actually pretty simple.
	Okay, I'd love to hear it.
	Yeah, so I understand because that's what I was going to bring up is that you've said, why is it that I have to wait now and kind of take the bullet, but you were out, you know, being with other men, right?
	And I get that, but that's the same reason why I wouldn't be with someone that's not Christian or not born again, because we, he wouldn't understand it from a spiritual sense of why I'm doing it.
	And even, go ahead.
	Well, the religious justifications make a little more sense in my mind, but from my point of view, I would still have the same exact feelings.
	But you'll have secular women who are atheists or not religious at all who will say, well, in my past 10, 20, 30 sexual encounters, I slept with them instantly or within the first day of life.
	But then even secular women will make this realization arbitrarily.
	totally arbitrary because they don't even know well there's no grounding my secondary objection here also is that you immediately internalize this and made it about yourself so specifically i'm saying because we're talking about hang on from the perspective of brian from the perspective of men who share that view without internalizing it right Right.
	Do you agree with me that you can understand why it is that they would be like, look, I'm number two.
	I'm second class.
	I'm obviously worse than whoever this previous person was.
	And isn't that a reasoned position?
	Yeah, and I'll give you, yeah, I do.
	And I think that that's why two people should not be unequally yoked and being together because there's two different frames.
	I would say that your argument and your feelings are valid, and I can't argue against that because it makes sense.
	But if, for example, I dated someone that wasn't Christian, he said he was Christian, but not really.
	And he even told me when I told him I didn't want to have intercourse with him, whatever, he said, you know, I don't really get it, but I respect you.
	And like, oh, yeah, you know, but he wasn't look at it from the same spiritual sense.
	So eventually he got into lust and got frustrated, right?
	And so that's my whole point.
	It's like you could, what you're saying makes sense.
	Like, I understand that completely, but that's why you can't be unequally yoked because you guys don't have the same thing.
	Well, a good question.
	A girl could be equally yoked.
	Oh, you're talking about this?
	Okay, let's read that to secular.
	You mean like in an interest, like she's interested.
	No, no, no, sorry.
	So from the Bible, unequally yoked meaning.
	Does that mean no?
	So I'm not going to date someone that's not Christian.
	Oh, okay.
	That's what that means.
	Yeah, it's not something we're weigh.
	We're carrying different burdens.
	We're carrying different things on our hearts.
	Okay.
	Convictions, right?
	So, I mean, I object to it less from like if the justification for I was previously casually sleeping with a bunch of dudes, but now I'm Christian.
	The justification there seems more justified.
	But there are plenty of secular atheist women who have that experience of, I'm just going to sleep with a bunch of dudes.
	Now you've come along.
	I'm going to make you wait three months.
	Well, you know what?
	That's weird.
	That's weird.
	Can I just finish real quick?
	Okay, so before I gave my life to Christ, I was an atheist and I went two years after my hoes phase.
	I didn't want anybody touching me because I internally knew that was not okay.
	I had no reference to Jesus, no reference to the Bible, but I started to slowly, I had the disgust.
	I started to get, God started speaking to me.
	Now looking back, I know it was him.
	But I think secular women, we're all, God's word is God's word is written in our hearts.
	Like we know what's between right and wrong.
	We know that sleeping around with so many people is not good for a pair body.
	Let's just bring that in, right?
	It's just, it's not good for us.
	And so even though people don't know it's because of Jesus, because of God, it's happening because we're spiritual beings that we have this.
	Can you help me out with one part of this?
	Yes.
	So when you say post what you call, did you call it ho phase?
	A ho phase, H-O-E.
	Okay.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So post-ho, I just want to make sure that I'm not strawmanning you or insulting you.
	I'm not trying to.
	I'm just repeating your words back to you.
	So post-ho phase.
	And I used that term before.
	When you were not a Christian and you were a secularist still, an atheist by your own description.
	How could you make a single justification to Brian as to why you would not sleep with him if you were dating him?
	Go ahead and try.
	I'd actually like to hear it.
	So if I wasn't, well, I don't know.
	I wasn't dating in those two years.
	I wasn't.
	Yeah, I know.
	But if you were and you just said, I want to be celibate because I don't know what reason, but you just said that.
	What would your actual justification to a man be who said, look, you weren't celibate with the last guy?
	It seems like you just maybe don't like me very much.
	Because if you did, I would think you would be physically intimate with me.
	What would the actual justification for that be?
	Could I add to that?
	No, you can let her answer, though.
	And then you can add to it.
	I mean, just a simple, it's my body.
	You're not my, I don't know.
	Like, it's, I, I guess I don't have any argument spiritually to back it up, but I mean, right, I was never in.
	So we're not arguing that you don't have the right, whether you're religious or secular.
	If you're a woman and you've slept with 100 men and you slept with all of them within the first 30 minutes, but then you land on guy number 101 and you want to wait a year, not even for religious reasons, you're just still an atheist, still secular, but you want to make him wait a year until having a secular marriage to sleep with him.
	You can do that.
	That's totally your call.
	But as a guy, I can look at that and be like, that's a terrible deal for me.
	Sure.
	I'm not going to do that.
	And remember, you brought this back to you again.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Well, but it's my body.
	I don't have to.
	Okay.
	So just for a prison.
	And you put me in my perspective.
	How do you want to not be?
	No, What I said was think of it through the man's perspective.
	How would you think of that?
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	Sorry, Andrew.
	Love you.
	If you were thinking of it through just the man's perspective and you were creating a justification to show the man why he was incorrect, why he shouldn't want to desire that, why he should be celibate right along with you, and that that wasn't actually disrespectful and that that wasn't actually because you preferred other guys over him.
	How would you craft such a justification or an argument without using the prism of my body, my choice, which was already granted?
	That's already granted.
	They already know that you don't have to have sex with them.
	The perspective here is the prism of why is it you won't have sex with me though if we're dating, but you would with other people absent a religious framework.
	How would you even make that argument?
	I'm going to call in a friend.
	Alyssa, go.
	Sorry, I've been waiting.
	No, no, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I got to know.
	I would like to know the actual answer.
	Well, I'm telling you, and you don't, I don't know because the only answer I have is, well, I mean, because to me, it's like it's either black and white.
	It's you're Christian or you're secular.
	You're away from God.
	So it's like, if you're not walking with God, then the only justification is just your feelings and your emotions.
	And that's all forever fleeing.
	So there's no real stable argument to it.
	I think even away from, okay, let's get away from the Bible, secular, right?
	Coming back to your argument of your justification of, okay, I feel horrible like she doesn't want to sleep with me.
	I think that's where communication comes in.
	Hey, this is why.
	And not only that, honestly, if I were a guy, I'd kind of be like, okay, asking that clarification.
	But obviously there was something that happened between from 100 to 101.
	There wasn't fulfillment in those first 100, probably, realistically.
	If she's seeing the same thing and she's jumping from guy to guy to guy to guy, maybe there is a cycle of something that she wasn't being fulfilled.
	So she's like, okay, I don't need to feel fulfilled in sex anymore.
	I want to see if they could provide for me spiritually or mentally or anything besides physically because anyone could go in and have sex.
	When I make an argument to you.
	Yeah, no, and I'm not saying there's a person who's not.
	I take my time.
	Hang on.
	I take my time to understand your worldview.
	So what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to take my shoes off and put yours on.
	So now I'm you and think like you.
	Because I think like you, this is what I think, right?
	Yeah.
	That's the good position to make an argument to a person.
	It's called an internal critique.
	You're adopting their skin for a moment.
	You're analyzing what it is that they think and why they think it.
	This, again, you internalized, right?
	So instead of doing that, think of it only from the perspective of Brian.
	You're trying to step into his shoes and you're utilizing what Brian thinks in order to demonstrate to Brian why it would be perfectly acceptable for you to put him as number two.
	Forget personal trauma, this and that, blah, Why from Brian's perspective would he be incorrect in feeling that way?
	I mean, he's not incorrect in feeling that.
	It comes down to his choice too, if that's not something he wants to feel.
	So it is logical for him to feel that way.
	Yeah, it is.
	Sure.
	It's rational for him to feel that way.
	Yeah, it is.
	It makes total sense for him to feel that way.
	Yes, exactly.
	I mean, people are going to be attracted to each other, of course.
	Like, even in me, with the situations I was involved, of course, yeah, I wanted to have sex with them and everything.
	And then the guy was like, Well, I want to have sex with you, so on and so forth.
	And I understand exactly where you're coming from.
	Of course, the man is going to, we're humans.
	We have that desire to be intimate with someone.
	And yeah, it sucks to be maybe that person who's at 101.
	And then at that point, that's where a choice is made.
	So, how do you tell a non-Christian, in this case, Brian, from his perspective, that he shouldn't have those expectations if he's dating a woman who was sleeping with her previous boyfriends?
	How could you ever justify to them why they shouldn't have that expectation?
	That's what I'm really getting at.
	I mean, you can't really force them to have your understanding.
	And that's why you should never correct men in public because some of us can't do that.
	Because some of us can do that, and some of you can't do that.
	But it's like feelings are failing.
	This is my whole point, right?
	It's like you can't actually give a single justification from his worldview for why it is he shouldn't feel that way.
	So basically, do you realize what you're doing is you're actually signaling to Brian that it's actually okay for him to have those expectations because as long as he doesn't share your Christian worldview, right?
	Why not?
	And he can't even tell him a single reason from his own worldview.
	Why he shouldn't?
	I can't expect him to not be all up in his feelings and think selfishly, like, well, why doesn't she want to have sex with me?
	Oh, but from his perspective, he thinks you're selfish.
	You fucked, you fucked 50 other guys and just not him.
	But you think that seems like it's more self-defense.
	So you don't think that, like, you don't think myself, I won't speak for other girls, but like, we don't have desires.
	Like, we don't have to do that.
	So we're also sacrificing, but it comes to sacrificing and dying.
	And dying to our flesh, dying to ourselves because we're worshiping our God.
	What you're internalizing in.
	I feel, I feel.
	Me, me, me.
	I even think too.
	But I have to because that's the point.
	You don't have to.
	That I'm in my, I do, to make my pondering on.
	Beck up.
	I'm trying to help you here.
	You actually don't.
	You can juxta suppose yourself onto another human being so that you can understand their own rationale.
	But when you do do that in this case, you find yourself having zero justification for why it is that Brian shouldn't feel that exact way, that he's being rational.
	Hang on.
	He's being emotionally rational.
	He's being logical.
	You have something that you can say.
	It's an external of your own experience.
	And that is what drives the guys who think like Brian fucking crazy because they don't understand why you can't tell them that it's incorrect for them to even think this way because it's rational and it's reasonable and it makes complete sense from your own perspective.
	Well, I'm not saying it's not rational.
	I'm saying he has, he can feel what he's feeling.
	And I understand why he's feeling that because we don't have the same framework.
	So how am I going to justify?
	Okay, let's go back to me being secular, an atheist, whatever.
	And you're telling me to go give him an argument.
	I don't have that argument because even when I'm trying not to internalize myself, I'm just putting myself back in that spot when I was living that life.
	It's like, I can't, I don't know.
	There's just, there is no argument, but I'm not, I'm not even trying to argue that.
	Like, he is, you're justified to feel that way.
	And the girl is also justified to say, I don't want to do this, even though I don't know why.
	And that's it.
	It doesn't mean it's right.
	And let me ask you a question.
	If you were in a host of a thousand people and you're asked this question and you said there is no justification, he's absolutely correct in feeling that way and so is she and it's totally rational.
	It's correct.
	Who the hell have you convinced?
	Who the hell have you convinced of your worldview if you say he's totally rational and reasonable in this worldview and so am I?
	Okay.
	You've convinced nobody.
	Okay, because how, again, how can I convince a sinner to not sin?
	And I'm not saying that like, and I'm just saying.
	I'm sorry, don't you have a ministry?
	Correct.
	But you want me to bring in Jesus?
	I can bring in Jesus, but I'm thinking we're talking about when I'm an atheist or a secular.
	Like either way, okay, let's bring it back if I was atheist, secular, okay?
	It's hard for me to think that because I'm thinking naturally now, well, it's black and white.
	I'm a Christian, and I see that we shouldn't be having, I chose not to have sex because of X, Y, and Z.
	But then Brian, who has no desire to follow God or the Bible or anything like that, he's like, well, that's not fair.
	It's like, well, yeah, I get that because you're not seeing it from a biblical standpoint or from the spiritual standpoint because Brian, I was there too.
	Like, I get that.
	And so.
	So, so then, how in the world?
	So, what you're actually saying to me, I just want, I want you to understand this.
	You're saying to me, absent you adopting my worldview, I cannot convince you of anything.
	What?
	Can you repeat that more time?
	You're saying, absent Brian, adopting your worldview as being true, you can't actually convince Brian of anything.
	In fact, you agree with him.
	That comment, you can't convince anyone.
	The Holy Spirit does.
	I like that.
	Yeah, it's true.
	Like, why?
	How can I convince Brian?
	Okay, well, can the Holy Spirit go ahead and convince Brian right now then through you?
	Yeah, I could share the gospel with you.
	Well, then go ahead and convince Brian through the Holy Spirit.
	Go ahead.
	Brian, are you fulfilled right now with your life with having sex with multiple women?
	When did I say I was doing that?
	I'm asking you.
	This whole time.
	Okay, are you having sex right now?
	No, in this time frame.
	I'm not going to answer that question.
	Because here's the thing with the Holy Spirit.
	I just have to ask questions.
	I'm a one-girl kind of guy.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Oh, we love that.
	But even then, she's not your, she's not like a base extended, but she's not your wife, is she?
	She's not your wife, is she?
	So you can't say for certain that that girl that you're having.
	Oh my god, I didn't say I had a wife.
	What the fuck?
	Okay, but that's my point.
	So you can't, that girl that you're, are you with the girl right now?
	I can't.
	No, yes, no, yes.
	I'm not, I can't disclose.
	I can't disclose.
	I can't disclose.
	That's actually fair.
	He's too popular.
	Yeah.
	It's dangerous.
	Dangerous safety concerns.
	Okay.
	Do you plan on getting married?
	Huh?
	Sorry, what's that?
	Do you plan on getting married one day?
	Nope.
	Okay, well, then it doesn't matter.
	Like, that's what I'm saying.
	Like, why am I going to try to convince?
	Right, but we're talking about this whole trope of women who previously were kind of loose sexual.
	Wait, what do you mean?
	How am I going to convince?
	Remember, you were going to convince him through the Holy Spirit, right?
	Isn't that what you just said?
	You were going to convince him through the Holy Spirit.
	I'm waiting for the convincing through the Holy Spirit.
	Whenever you're ready.
	I don't even think it's us convincing people.
	It's their own conviction.
	Oh, their conviction of God.
	They're convinced by the belief in your worldview.
	It doesn't have to be my worldview because some people I've talked to, they don't have that conviction of like, oh, I don't feel the need to wait until marriage to have sex, and that's their conviction.
	I'm not going to sit there and try to convince them.
	I could give them my point of view, and then that's it, but I'm not going to sit there and try to convince you.
	Oh, so you're not convincing.
	Can you convince Brian through the Holy Spirit, real quick, or no?
	That's not my thought.
	Isn't the whole point of faith, though, to come to the revelation on your own, not to have other people?
	Well, okay, let's get back.
	Let's get back to that.
	Well, hang on, Angon.
	This is actually important.
	So, the reason I bring this up is: do I agree with you that all glory should always go to God?
	Yes.
	Do I agree with you that the Holy Spirit can move through people?
	Yes.
	But the thing is, is that am I convinced that it's moving through you, a female minister?
	No.
	Am I convinced by your arguments at all?
	No.
	Could you even make a compelling argument from the opposition's worldview?
	No.
	That's fine.
	I don't mean a voice.
	I'm left logically with only two assumptions here.
	Either one, the Holy Spirit just really hates Brian, or B, perhaps your assumption that the Holy Spirit moves through you in order to convince people and does it adequately is incorrect.
	Well, see, here's the thing: my words don't need to convince anybody.
	It's my actions.
	For example, shout out to Cynthia.
	She was supposed to be here.
	She is now recommitted to marriage, and she your words don't convince anybody, huh?
	It's my actions.
	She's seen my life before how I was, and now how I am.
	And so that in itself is what's maybe I'm not called to come to be a witness like that when it comes to the situation for him.
	And that's why I think.
	Well, that's a wait.
	That's super weird.
	Couldn't somebody else who was a secularist, who was not religious in any way, shape, or form, do all of the exact actions that you have done and not believe in God and Jesus Christ at all?
	Yes.
	So, like, okay, well, then I don't understand how that's an example that you can give to someone who's not going to be able to do that.
	You'll only know through my actions.
	I'm winning.
	What I'm saying is that you're saying that the Holy Spirit isn't working through me.
	What I'm saying is, I beg to differ because I'm not, no, no, no, I'm not making the claim that the Holy Spirit isn't working through you.
	I'm just asking you that if you are to say, I cannot convince anybody.
	It's the Holy Spirit who convinces people.
	And I'm drawing on that power, right?
	Right, but we also argue that you're not going to be able to do that.
	Now's your great chance and opportunity to go through.
	We throw pearls to swine.
	We don't throw pearls to swine.
	When someone's not open to the side, what does that mean?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What do you think that that means?
	Do you think that that means that if somebody is open and is willing to listen to your actual arguments and you're right in front of them and they're willing to be convinced that that's casting pearls to swine?
	Is that what you think that means?
	No, but he's also just very cut off and not want even caring to answer my question.
	So I guess this is more like your argumentative people who can't break down this minute barrier.
	No, no, no.
	I want to add just to so I could speak for some things.
	Like you said, you're like, convince him through the Holy Spirit right now.
	The Holy Spirit's not some genie in a bottle, too.
	And I think that's where we have to understand.
	Oh, I agree.
	Which is why it was an ill choice of words.
	Ill choice of words is saying a genie in a bottle.
	No, to make the kind of bold claim that the Holy Spirit, through her, is convincing people of anything.
	How do we know it's not just her trying to convince people?
	How do we know that?
	That's hold on.
	You don't know?
	You don't know how we would know that?
	From the comments.
	He thinks that you were the one that said it.
	The comment said it.
	Your audience.
	The comment that you said, oh, I agree.
	That's a great comment, meaning you agree with the comment.
	Yeah, but it's still true, though.
	There is some, but it wasn't coming out of pridefulness.
	It's the whole thing.
	It sure sounds like it's coming from a place of pride.
	Okay, I understand you're trying to do this whole content thing, but I think there's a fine line with like blasphemy of like the Holy Spirit, but it's true because the Holy Spirit does work through people and our actions, our testimonies, and all the things.
	And so for you to say, like, like, how am I so sure that the Holy Spirit is working?
	I mean, I think the Holy Spirit can work in all of us that's truly spirit-filled.
	And I do believe I'm spirit-filled and not out of pride, but just out of my faith in Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
	Well, and yet, when the time comes for you to do the convincing.
	But the Holy Spirit also tells you when to pause, when to stop, and when to go.
	That's true.
	And so it's not always just go and exactly what it's telling you now.
	Is the Holy Spirit telling you to go ahead and pause?
	He is because he's telling me because this is it's it's he's not receptive.
	This is just for likes and views.
	I'm receptive.
	I'm receptive.
	No, and this is also discernment.
	No, it's just for likes and views.
	Well, let me tell you a lot of flack that a guy like Brian gets is when he says publicly things like, look, I'm actually considering going to an Orthodox church.
	And I'm considering doing this because I heard convincing arguments from this guy over here.
	Now, the thing that's interesting about that is that you claim that this is all performative.
	And yet it would be far easier for Brian to continue to just say, no, if it was just purely performative.
	No, I have no interest in that and I don't believe in any of it.
	These are real conversations which influence tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of people.
	And I think it's a massive cop-out to just go, well, because of the performance aspect of this, this means nobody's influenced.
	They're clearly influenced.
	But it's just like there's for me to tell, for me to try to convince Brian on why it's okay to be that 101 person, right?
	It's like I can't because he's coming from a standpoint from that is where I would have a 101% person.
	I want you to think again about what you're saying.
	You're saying I can't not convince a person who does not accept my worldview.
	You want me to be 101?
	101, yeah.
	You want me to be, wait, hold on.
	This is totally.
	Just give me a hashtag 101.
	This is two different conversations.
	So the first conversation is about like women who were strumpets.
	What?
	Women who were strumpets.
	And then they don't want to be strumpets anymore with you as a guy, whether for religious reasons or not for religious reasons.
	Is your advocacy really, though, that men, from your worldview, from a Christian worldview, need to marry women with a high body count?
	What?
	Well, you said the guy should, I thought you said the guy should accept being number 101 and waiting.
	Right.
	She said equally yoked.
	That's what you're referencing.
	So he's referencing the equally yoked.
	If you were equally yoked, then would you be marrying a guy with a high body count?
	We're talking about spiritually, spiritually.
	Wait, but you, okay, you, did you just clarify?
	That's my point.
	But did you say that?
	We have different foundations on what conversations mean.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Should the guy, let's say he's Christian and she's Christian, would you advise a guy to marry a woman who's Christian, but who has a body count of over 100?
	That's not my, it's not my place to tell him who or how many body counts.
	As the secular man at the table, let me give you Christian men some advice.
	Women can absolutely change and be redeemed.
	Mom.
	But men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them.
	This is perfectly compatible, even within the Christian worldview.
	Nothing would compel a Christian man to have to date a woman, even if she's redeemed.
	Yeah, she doesn't have to do anything.
	No, because she fucked 100 dudes before she was Christian.
	Yeah, or even while she was Christian.
	Well, that's scripturally incorrect because basically, according to scripture, you're a new creation, so therefore, what that means when you get baptized is actually you're born again.
	You're born again virgin.
	You're a born-again virgin.
	Yay!
	So if God doesn't hold on to it, you can hashtag it.
	Oh, yay!
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'm going to take yay to the born again.
	Let's celebrate to the born-again virgin.
	You're born again in your virginity.
	Your hymen grew back.
	It was fantastic.
	There's shots all around him.
	Born again virgin.
	Born again.
	Hey, wow.
	Bottoms up to you.
	You were born again a virgin.
	The entire past race you did.
	You unfucked every guy you've ever fucked up.
	Yay.
	And I think it could go both ways.
	Like, for me, as a Christian woman, if I end up, like, a guy is pursuing me and he has a high body count and we both have the same beliefs, we're equal.
	Yeah, like I'm not going to hold that against him.
	100%.
	And I think, like, you're kind of saying, like, the guy, it could be a friend of the girl.
	I'm not even Christian.
	So you're saying Christian are not allowed to have any standards or boundaries.
	If you're truly born again and you have the spirit working in you, you will transform.
	It doesn't matter what you did in your past.
	So you're saying that a Christian man or a Christian woman is obliged to date any other Christianity.
	Block all these guys who reformed over to Christianity and let them out of the fucking.
	We better let them all out of prison, Brian.
	Well, you know what?
	Actually, we have many ex-gang members in my church, actually, that they are no longer doing the things that they did.
	They are transformed.
	They have different things.
	So a woman is obliged to date a former.
	She doesn't have to ask her.
	And so a man doesn't have to date.
	No one's saying that, but you're not saying.
	That's what you're all about.
	That's not the argument.
	No one ever said that.
	I'm actually standing for you and saying, no, you don't have to date her.
	The thing is, you can be forgiven for yourself.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what the argument is here.
	We're all agreeing.
	The Bible's very- We're just trying to have to like disagree for content.
	Hold on.
	But when I said men do not need to then disregard their baggage and marry them, y'all were like, No, no, they were just.
	No, we were Christians.
	Come on, Maddie.
	Your sins are washed away, but the consequences of them are not allowed to be.
	You still have to be in the world.
	And there's worldly, but there are worldly consequences to the things that you do.
	This idea of born-again virgin is complete prattle.
	It's completely unbiblical.
	Made the fuck up.
	Unblitzed.
	I don't think anyone said that.
	I don't think anyone said that.
	There is no point.
	You did say born again.
	No, no, I personally did not.
	I never born again.
	You guys know born again virgin, like as a joke or whatever, but like spiritually, yeah, anything, anything.
	Anything that I've done, none of us have referenced that.
	No, sexually, any drugs I took in the past, anything, anything that I was involved in, it's not in my life anymore.
	And so if a man, a Christian man, a Christian man were to come to my life and look at my past and be like, oh, yeah, you know, you do have the fruits of the spirit now.
	Your life has changed.
	Your actions are changed now, but you did that 10 years ago.
	I don't want to be with you.
	I would dare to argue that that's not a true Christian man because it's not.
	No, bullshit.
	That's bullshit.
	That's exactly.
	Yeah, that's what everybody jumped against.
	You cannot, and go ahead and try.
	I can't wait to hear this.
	Okay, you know what?
	Why don't you go ahead and get it?
	I'll take it back.
	I'll take it back.
	He could be a Christian man.
	Hang on.
	A man has held his entire life celibate, let's say.
	And he's devoted his life to God.
	And he wants to get married and have a nice family.
	And he goes to you and he finds out that you fucked 100 dudes and you're on camera getting gangbanged.
	Can you explain to me?
	Let's just assume that you're saying it for you.
	That's not true.
	That's not true, by the way.
	I'm not saying you did.
	Not saying you did.
	Saying for the purpose of the hypothetical.
	Okay.
	There's you got gangbanged by 100 dudes.
	It's on camera, right?
	They're jizzing all over your face.
	Okay.
	They're having a great time with you, let's say, in this hypothetical.
	This man, you're saying, is not Christian.
	No, I'll take that back.
	Look, I don't want to marry a woman who has that background.
	So, so I would say he's not, he doesn't have to take me as his wife.
	He doesn't choose to.
	He doesn't choose to.
	But I would say someone that's equally yoked as I, because I could date an ex-gang member that's been with X, Y, and Z. Paul even has a daughter or a son because we're born again.
	We have a new life in Christ.
	We have a future and hope in Christ.
	That the past is the past.
	And the Holy Spirit has the ability to redeem you and to transform your minds, your habits, everything.
	And so I don't disagree with that.
	But if I, if, if me, I'm like, you know what?
	I don't want to be with him because of X, Y, and Z. That's my choice.
	And does whatever.
	Same thing with the man.
	Well, let's back up and see if this actually logically pans out here.
	Let's assume that this man is with you and doesn't know anything about your past.
	You're extremely devout.
	He adores you.
	He thinks you're great in every conceivable way.
	He knows for sure that you are pious, that you love the Lord, and he loves the Lord as well.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Then one day he's scrolling on YouTube and he finds a, you know, just a, or not YouTube, but wherever, and there's a picture that pops up.
	Maybe somebody DMs it to him and it shows you getting gangbanged by 50 guys.
	Then he goes to you and he's like, look, honey, yes, I agree that you're a Christian.
	I agree that spiritually you are epic, but I do not want to marry a woman who has been gangbanged by 50 dudes.
	Right.
	Then he's doing, hang on.
	Is he doing anything wrong?
	Technically, no.
	He could have that.
	He could have, he could make that decision.
	But what I'm saying is that even in that situation, which is not true, I would like to think about it.
	I'm not saying it's not that much.
	We would express it.
	Now, all of you are in whatever land.
	I'm not claiming that this actually happened.
	Okay, okay.
	We're just engaging in a hypothetical.
	Yeah, but I still beg to argue that a Christian man that's really understands the gospel and Jesus and what he brings us from, that people can look past that.
	I'm not saying all Christian men will, but there's Christian men that would look past a gangbanging.
	There's secular men who would look past it too.
	But the point here is not whether or not they would look past it.
	The point here is whether or not it's unchristian of them not to.
	I guess it would, I don't, I don't, it's hard for me to say it's unchristian.
	I don't like that I said that earlier, that oh, he's not a Christian man, so I'm gonna take that back.
	But I would say, like, it's kind of like the whole, I don't know, I would have to study back, study on it more, but I just know that it's hard for me to think, like, if I'm looking even at a potential husband and I look at him and for his past, that it's not my flesh talking and not the spirit talking.
	Like, it's just, if I really, if I'm really understanding who the Holy Spirit is and Jesus and being born again, it's like saying, I don't want anything to do with you because of what you did 10 years ago.
	It's like, it kind of brings, diminishes the power of the Holy Spirit and what he's done and the whole point of the gospel.
	He's not refuting that you're saved.
	He's not refuting that you're a Christian.
	He's not refuting your salvation at all and is encouraging you on your pathway towards it.
	That does not mean that this man should in any way, shape, or form stay with you, even if he loved you based on the consequences which are current to your past.
	And I don't see a damn thing wrong with that.
	Sure.
	I mean, I guess I could see that.
	Like, okay, I ask a question.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	And this is the reason I bring this up specifically, and then you can comment on it.
	The reason I bring this up specifically is because I need you to know that there are women everywhere who are trying to make the religion of Christianity perverse and what I call a whore haven.
	And it should be.
	It should be a place for prostitutes to become reformed, but it should not be a place for prostitutes to become reformed only because they believe that it will shield them from criticism and that suddenly the past will no longer matter.
	That is an absurdity.
	And that is a trend which is happening.
	And I believe that the exact type of gospel that you're espounding on here is pushing people more towards that than would be pushing people more towards reason and an actual relationship with the Lord.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, mate.
	I kind of agree with that.
	My whole.
	Wait, but your question, you were going to make it.
	Oh, my whole question was just going to be this.
	If we're talking about a hypothetical situation of forgiveness, wouldn't you want to be forgiven for the things that you've done in your past?
	Therefore, if you have a look at the greatest commandment, one of them is to love others as you love yourself.
	So I am the worst of the worst, the scummiest of the scum.
	The chief of all sinners is sitting right here.
	Thank the Lord that forgiveness is available for somebody like me.
	I'm still not marrying one of you fucking whores, right?
	And that's, I'm not saying you specifically.
	What I'm saying is from the perspective of a Christian man who says that, what the hell would be the problem with that?
	My question then in the Bible as well, there's the scripture about that gentleman that was actually forced to marry a prostitute.
	I'm sure you know it a lot better than I do.
	But then what would you kind of comment?
	Is that it?
	And he literally was called to marry a prostitute and she's still sleeping around with people and he was called to still love her.
	He literally went to go get her.
	So I'm just curious as to what your perspective would be on something like that.
	If you're saying that there's no obligation.
	There are certain cases.
	Like there could be a specific case where via divine command you were called to marry a prostitute.
	I'm most certain that such a thing could occur.
	But so what?
	So what?
	That has no bearing at all on whether or not it would be un-Christian for a man who is devout, who comes across you and knows that you're devout, but still knows the consequence of your past.
	Like for instance, what if you have four kids from your past?
	Sure, your sins are washed clean.
	But does that mean that he has to deal with your four kids from other dads because you're not?
	Doesn't that seem absurd to you?
	I don't think anyone's prefaced this with obligation, but I definitely agree with what you're saying.
	I'm just asking hypotheticals in return for your opinion on them.
	But I definitely don't think there's any obligation in any capacity.
	It's possible you can have a divine command within the realm of logical possibility for all sorts of things.
	But whether or not this is so doesn't mean that it would be un-Christian for a man who is a devout Christian to push him towards marrying outside of his preference.
	And in this case, for a low body count or for a woman who has been chased, what in the world would be wrong with that?
	Yeah, no, that's fine.
	I think that no one should be pressured or forced into marrying someone.
	No, like, I get that.
	But let's just take that same Christian man.
	Sure, he doesn't want her as a wife, but what if he were to say, yeah, she's, she's still, she was a slut 10 years ago, then I still see her as a slut.
	I think that's what I'm trying to say.
	No, you can't, just because of what you did 10 years ago, that doesn't mean you're still that today because you are a new creation.
	No, I agree with that.
	But you can have preferences.
	Listen, you're not what you were.
	You're not what you were.
	But the consequence of what you were does follow you.
	If you were a serial killer and then you become a devout Christian, can I concede that there's a possibility you could have salvation?
	Of course.
	But that doesn't mean I'm letting you out of prison.
	And if you're a chick who has 10 baby daddies, right, that doesn't mean that a man is obligated in any way to look past that because he's a Christian.
	You certainly agree that that has to be true, right?
	Yeah, sure, 100%.
	Well, then with Brian, back to Brian.
	We're going to circle this all the way back, right?
	How in the world then could you ever tell him that his preference for, but I fucked the guy right before you, I just won't do it with you, wouldn't have the meaning to him that essentially you thought he was lesser than the guy before him.
	He wouldn't.
	I mean, I mean, he.
	Right.
	He wouldn't.
	Gotcha, bitch.
	Anyway, I'll take it.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Look, I'll give you guys a couple analogies here.
	I'm going to give you a couple.
	Oh, my gosh.
	So this would be this whole like the girl, oh, she, all the pre, and we actually, we've had girls come on the show and say this.
	Recently, we had a girl say she was doing, she was going to Europe a bunch, having fun in Europe, traveling in Europe.
	And when she was in Europe, she had no qualms at all about sleeping with a guy within 30 minutes of meeting him.
	But then she's like, well, now that I'm back home, I'm going to wait like a month, two months, three months before I have sex with a guy.
	Totally arbitrary.
	No actual reason, just arbitrary because she thinks that that will make her more likely to get a guy to commit to her, which actually isn't the case at all.
	But a couple analogies here.
	The girl saying, well, all the previous guys hooked up with them fast, but you, I want to wait.
	It's like a guy saying, you don't understand.
	Those women, they're just for hookups.
	So of course I bought them expensive things and I took them to the best dining places and I even paid their bills.
	But you're different from them.
	I actually see you as a potential girlfriend, wife.
	So you have to wait for those benefits.
	So let's go out to McDonald's.
	You're paying, by the way.
	Or, okay, here's another one.
	Here's the other one.
	Okay.
	It's like going to a fancy restaurant.
	You're waiting in line.
	Everyone is paying $1 for a fancy T-bone steak.
	And then when it's finally your turn, you're informed all they have left is a McDonald's burger that will cost you $1,000.
	How do you feel?
	Can I ask you a question?
	Well, I'd like an answer to my question first.
	Well, it's kind of like a rebuttal from that, what you said.
	So you're saying that hypothetically, your interpretation of if a woman is interested in you is if they have sex with you, because if they had sex with other people and they're not having sex with you, that means that your value is potentially diminished.
	But why are you placing emphasis on your value being through sexual intimacy?
	Why couldn't it be that your value is actually placed in the fact that this woman is going, hey, I've done this so many times with so many other people.
	I see something in you.
	I want to cherish that.
	I want to nurture that.
	And I don't want to do that because I think that there's something about you that is different from everyone else.
	I want to get to know you outside of sex.
	I want to get to know you for you because sex places a false sense of intimacy with someone where if you take sex away, you actually get to know the person for their truest essence.
	So why wouldn't you be more special because she's not just sleeping with you, but she's actually going, hey, wait a minute, I see something in you that's different.
	I want to cherish that, champion that, and nurture that.
	So I'm not going to have something to do with that.
	So I have a response.
	So I have a response.
	So first off, that was actually Andrew's argument, not mine.
	Because I deferred to him on his own.
	That's you then.
	Sorry.
	So let's condense it then.
	You can ask it this way and I'll answer it.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then to repeat the question, I'm not going to repeat it, but you heard the question.
	I guess that's it.
	Why is the interpretation that a value was placed on the sexual intimacy and why isn't it built on a different type of foundation?
	And why does that diminish the man as being special?
	Because a woman doesn't want to do that with her.
	Well, wouldn't this defer to just cultural relativism?
	So let me tell you a story about the come warriors of Papua New Guinea.
	The fuck?
	Oh man.
	This is the peacecraft argument.
	I'm going to explain this to you.
	And God help all of us as I do it.
	This is the peacecraft argument for the come warriors of Papua New Guinea.
	Now, there exists a tribe in Papua New Guinea where all of the young boys have a specific job to do to become men.
	And I'm not going to get into it.
	You can infer it.
	Yep.
	Okay?
	Because it's YouTube.
	But their job involves their mouth and men.
	Okay?
	That's what they do all day long, and they load up with that.
	Interestingly enough, surprisingly.
	It's disgusting.
	I'm not kidding.
	Not kidding.
	I'm literally sold.
	It's a real thing.
	It's a real phenomenon.
	I think he'll make a point.
	I think he's talking about the context.
	Yeah.
	The thing is, is that when it comes to these particular, this particular tribe, the interesting phenomenon here is that there doesn't seem to be any trauma from these young men.
	Eula sees the pagan donated $200.
	Girl, to the right of red dress, what if a guy with the past to vesse women is now born or gion?
	Would it be unchristian of you to not want to be with them?
	I was actually thinking about that.
	I was actually thinking about that.
	Like, I wouldn't date someone that was a petty, you know, right?
	Although that doesn't mean that I don't believe that God has the ability to change him and that he can have a completely different life.
	But yeah, that wouldn't be my preference to go do it.
	Thank you, the pagan.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, pagan.
	Appreciate it.
	Pagan.
	Back to that thing or whatever.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So, yeah, not kidding.
	This is a real phenomenon.
	It's a real tribe.
	This really happened.
	So what it reduces to is what's called cultural relativism.
	So if there's no trauma for these young men who have to do this ghastly deed, and they have to do it on a daily basis, by the way, can you explain to me how you would go in there if they say, I love doing this, it's my favoritest thing, and explain to them why it would be wrong for them to do that?
	What?
	I get your point.
	Well, I guess my rebuttal to that would be we're not talking about people in Papua New Guinea.
	The context of what we're talking about is people in the West, and we're talking about this new age of sex culture.
	So it's kind of irrelevant to try and debate.
	Great.
	So how would you convince them that what was going on was wrong?
	Well, to be honest with you, unless there was a necessity for it.
	Yeah, I think it's kind of a null and void argument, to be honest with you, because I don't understand.
	If you were trying to spread Christianity to the north, I never said that I was trying to speak.
	I think that's the thing.
	When out of one side of your mouth, you say that to Brian, cultural relativism doesn't matter, yet he lives in a culture where promiscuity is absolutely heralded as being absolutely fine.
	Everything from feminism to what is now the modern-day pickup community says that this type of promiscuity is absolutely fine.
	And yet, when I'm giving you an example of the most ghastly of deeds being culturally relativized down to your own prism, you couldn't give me a single argument for how you tell the tribe that they probably shouldn't let this occur.
	The only way that I could potentially see of going about that is, again, you just have to create a new culture.
	You'd have to educate people on what your perception of sex is, what healthy sexuality is.
	It would start on an individual basis of saying, how do you feel about this?
	Is this something that you enjoy doing?
	There's an alternative.
	Great.
	Well, then educating that there's an alternative to the solution.
	Not kidding.
	So it's as simple as that.
	I think if you can tell people that there's another way to do things, if they accept that, like this, we're saying you don't have to do things this way.
	There is an opposite way if you take that choice.
	Amazing, but education.
	My initial argument was: why isn't your worldview grounded on something besides this thing?
	So what I did was I gave you a worldview, which was not grounded on this thing, which instead was grounded on that particular culture.
	And so now you know that different worldviews can be grounded just based around the culture that they're in.
	You must agree that this is so, right?
	Absolutely.
	But again, I think for my perspective to change, I never knew that there was another way.
	And so I always thought that it was that way.
	And to have sexual intimacy, when I was educated, that there was another option.
	I took that.
	So I think it comes down to, again, if you have the capacity to educate people in a way that's fantastic.
	Okay, well, why don't you go ahead and I just can't wait to hear you educate Brian.
	So if Brian has a chick who is on birth control, right?
	And they are in a committed relationship.
	Okay, they're in a committed relationship, meaning they're not sleeping with anybody except each other.
	Yeah.
	And they plow each other every single day in the craziest positions you can think of.
	I mean, he gets the anal beats out.
	He's having a good time with this, let's say, in this hypothetical.
	That's fine.
	He's having a ball.
	Explain to Brian why what he's doing is wrong.
	Work.
	Could I add?
	I don't think he's wrong.
	Hang on.
	I think, again, the reason why I would talk about this is it would be a great question.
	The reason as to why I would wonder.
	It's a completely.
	I would say, do you believe?
	So if I was doing this legitimately with someone, she's trying to answer.
	She's trying to answer.
	So if I was legitimately doing this with someone, the process that I would take is I would ask, do you see that there is a problem to begin with?
	And the thing is, if someone doesn't.
	Do you see that there's no problem?
	Well, then he's having a ball.
	He's having a ball.
	There's no STDs involved.
	There's no pregnancy.
	They're in a committed relationship, just the two of them.
	And he is just having the time of his life, and so is she.
	Can't wait to hear the argument for why what he's doing is wrong.
	Can't wait.
	What is it?
	I think, and this is 100% personal.
	And you asked me what my argument would be as to why I think it's wrong.
	So it has to come from a personal perspective.
	And my perspective is this: I believe that every single person, and I don't care how corny this is, is precious and treasured.
	And according to my faith, I believe that doing something in accordance with a marriage is something that should be protected and championed.
	And it's not in the context of casual relationships.
	I don't believe that you should ever have sex as a form of the basis of your intimacy.
	I don't think that you should see a woman as this thing that you can just pursue.
	And the way to love her is just to have sex with her.
	I think that every woman is extraordinary and special, and her body is one of the most precious things in the precious life.
	She agrees.
	But I haven't finished my argument.
	I agree.
	It's exceptional.
	But I haven't finished my army.
	They're having sex every day.
	They think it's the greatest thing ever.
	They're having the time of their lives.
	He actually agrees with everything you just said.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	A woman's body's her temple.
	He worships her.
	She's a goddess.
	And she thinks he's a king.
	He bows to her.
	He bows her.
	Smashing every single morning, afternoon, and night.
	And they just adore each other.
	Tell me what this is.
	This is an exhausting thing for what it is that they shouldn't do that.
	He's not living his life.
	I mean, for me, as a Christian woman, if I'm living my life according to the Bible and I have those standards, those are my standards.
	If he's not aligning up his life to want to have it lined up to the Bible, you can't argue with it.
	It's not simple.
	Yeah, he's not living a life that's forced.
	You can't force him to see our perspective.
	Let me take over here for a little bit.
	Very simple.
	It's actually not that deep.
	Yeah, it's really not that deep.
	If you don't agree, you don't agree.
	If you don't have the spirit, you're not going to have conviction.
	Like, we, it just is what it is.
	All right.
	Why would you want to change that?
	I'll just go back to your argument.
	So, just to bring it back to this whole thing of, well, okay, what I had said previously was: we had a woman who came on the show and she was traveling in Europe and she had no qualms at all with just sleeping with men, multiple men within minutes or hours of meeting them.
	She came back to the United States, she's back home.
	Oh, now, okay, you know, two totally different viewpoints on this.
	Now that I'm back home, I'm going to make men wait one month, two months, three months.
	I need commitment.
	I need a relationship.
	No religious reasons, just totally arbitrary.
	And then two weeks after she has this new standard, she goes on a trip to Vegas.
	She fucks a guy within 30 minutes of meeting him.
	No real actual standard.
	I don't care.
	I actually don't agree with that.
	I don't give a fuck about that at all, actually.
	I want to talk about this trope of women having like this double standard of the conduct towards men.
	And your argument essentially was: well, what if it's about that she really thinks the guy is really special and she wants to value?
	Well, for your specific situation, I would say that it's a challenge of her identity because clearly that she falls back on her morals and principles because she says that I'm going to do this and then I do that and then I do this.
	So it would be a deeper conversation to have with this girl hypothetically on what is your identity?
	What are your morals, values, and principles?
	Because clearly when you go somewhere else, you default on them.
	So that person actually doesn't have a lot of integrity, would be the analysis of this person.
	No, I don't think it has anything to do with her.
	You don't think so?
	No, I just think it's this totally arbitrary thing.
	She's traveling.
	It's like, okay, I'm just going to hook up.
	I don't think so.
	And I don't really care about it from that perspective.
	The perspective is once again to bring it back to the male perspective.
	Yeah.
	Of that's bullshit.
	Yes.
	I'm not going, like, that's unfair.
	So I'm going to feel a certain type of way about that.
	And because of that, I may or may not feel like you're worthy of waiting for.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	And that's totally fine.
	Like, the perspective is: is she worth waiting for?
	And it seems evident to me if she has this sort of two different standards that are occurring at the same time that no, she's not worth waiting for.
	It's one thing if it's always been your standard and you've had three long-term relationships and you made all of them late.
	But if you're gonna, you've had 10 casual hookups and you slept with them all really quickly and now you're coming to me and you want a long-term relationship with me and I have me personally no inclinations towards waiting weeks or months to have sex.
	I'm gonna look at that and feel like that's a bullshit proposition.
	I'm gonna go date a different girl.
	Yeah, you're playing a game with me.
	But I just don't understand the logic of because you were saying, well, like you're kind of it's like they reward the fuckboys who never give them commitment with immediate sex and punish the guys worthy of a relationship by making them wait weeks, months, or even until marriage.
	I think the reason why women do that is, again, there's a need for validation.
	And so if a guy is distant, if he's cold, if he's backing off, a woman therefore wants him, which is why these F-boys seem to get the reward because they need to seek that validation and that reward of knowing, oh, they like me, they slept with me, even though they're hot and cold.
	Where when they have the more solidified yes from a guy that's pursuing them, that's into them.
	It's this weird psychology, which comes back to identity, I think, of I know he's there, but that doesn't fulfill that void of validation.
	That guy feels that void.
	Yeah, I don't agree with it.
	I'm just trying to sex to the guys who are the least deserving of it.
	Which is a major problem.
	They're giving sex to the guys who are probably by their own estimation the least deserving of it.
	They're not treating them well, etc., etc.
	And then the guys who are treating them well, well, we're gonna wait.
	Yep, absolutely.
	And it's a major problem.
	And I 100% agree with you that it's not right.
	And also, too, it even comes from a perspective of what was there for me.
	What was what did you see growing up?
	If all they seen was maybe their parents or their aunts, uncles, whoever it was, get into those type of relationships.
	And they're like, okay, I want to be in these type of relationships too.
	It honestly goes back to the way you grew up too.
	If you're around something so often, you're going to attract that as well.
	Versus if I was never taught, I didn't grow up in a happy household where my parents got along and all that stuff.
	So it's like, if I grew up seeing that, I'm like, okay, that's what I deserve too.
	If I never seen what an actual healthy relationship is supposed to look like, I'm probably not going to be attracted to that.
	And it sucks.
	Yeah, like we said, it sucks that us women sometimes we want to go after the bad boys.
	We want that validation and it comes back to that fulfillment.
	It comes back to what all we've seen all our life.
	If I grew up 15 years seeing that type of relationship, realistically, I'm probably going to get into that relationship until I'm introduced to something new.
	And I get your perspective.
	Like, it's crazy.
	Yeah, it is crazy.
	And we can't validate that.
	And if a man says, okay, I'm not going to wait for you.
	I don't, I don't want to be with you.
	Okay, awesome.
	For the girl, awesome.
	You're not the one for me.
	Cool.
	Keep it pushing.
	It's not that hard for me, at least in my perspective.
	It's very simple.
	It's if he doesn't want to be with me, okay, cool.
	Awesome.
	Like, thank you for letting me know.
	Yeah, and he does.
	He does want to be with you, but you're essentially extending to him very different treatment than the way you've treated.
	This is something I've experienced with women I've did myself.
	They'll be like, oh, I want to wait.
	I want to wait.
	But they're otherwise seem interested in me.
	And then if I just do even like a base level of like questioning, have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Yes.
	Have you ever had a friends with benefits?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Fourth date, you still don't like, and it's just like this really weird.
	Look, it's her call.
	She doesn't want to do it.
	Totally respect it.
	But I'm going to start feeling like you're playing a game with me.
	And it just doesn't like you're just playing a game.
	You're trying to leverage sex to get something from me or get commitment.
	And then I'm like, I just start losing interest because I'm like, okay, she's not interested.
	So I'm not interested then.
	Maybe I'll stick around a bit and have sex with her.
	But my, once a girl's already started playing that game, I'm just already losing interest.
	These girls think, oh, if I make him wait, he'll respect me more.
	Well, not really, because we actually, in my experience, all the long-term relationships I've had, we had sex first, second date.
	It wasn't let's wait.
	How does this work?
	No, I wasn't going to say that, but do you feel from what you're saying?
	You're, if the girl, I know that she's had sex with other people and then she's saying with me, she hasn't.
	We get to the third, fourth date, she still doesn't.
	What that could potentially say is that's hitting a nerve for you.
	So wouldn't you prefer to look internally and say, why does that actually annoy me?
	Is it because there's an insecurity within me that that brings up?
	And so when a girl doesn't, I feel that she has to have sex with me to validate something within me.
	So wouldn't you prefer to internally look at why that bugs you instead of necessarily analyzing why the girl's not sleeping with you?
	No, I think it's because men and women see sex differently.
	Yeah, I'm just asking out of curiosity.
	So, so, okay, she, again, we've already kind of discussed this.
	So, you're saying the girl fucked 10 other dudes on the first night, and then she wants me to wait four dates, five dates, six dates, seven dates.
	It annoys me, not because I feel insecure, but she's clearly playing a game and she has actually no, you know, there's no, it's just a totally arbitrary decision on her end.
	I heard this from a TikTok, I heard this from a friend.
	Let me make the dude wait, even though she has no actual qualms with fucking quickly.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	And this scenario plays out all the time.
	A girl will do this, the men will be annoyed by it, and then she'll just meet the next guy and fuck him immediately.
	So it has absolutely nothing to do with her standards.
	It's just you're playing a game.
	You're trying to leverage sex to get compliance from men in some sort of way.
	And so it's just, it doesn't frustrate me because I'm, oh, I'm rejected.
	It's just like you're playing a game.
	Yeah, and there are women who do play those games.
	Nothing to do with your values.
	Yeah.
	And it's just a totally different treatment.
	And like, how are you going to say you want a long-term relationship with me?
	You think I'm special?
	All those other guys, they just weren't worthy of a relationship with you, but you gave them pussy, and I'm the one who's worthy of a relationship, but you don't want to have sex with me.
	Just, it doesn't compute to me.
	It does not, it literally does not make sense.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	In that situation, I feel like it's true, but say she does have like this big switch and regrets her past promiscuity or whatever, and she wants to like wait.
	And she's not just going to do this with you.
	She's going to do this with any other guy.
	I know them.
	There's no way for me to know.
	Yeah, but I never women like that.
	They have their reasons.
	They just don't know how to tell you without making you feel like shitty.
	As in, like, oh, they want to just make sure you're a good guy because they don't just want to, they're just afraid of like adding a body to their body count.
	You know what I mean?
	So, I mean, look, on one hand, yes, it's better to change than to continue in your degenerate promiscuity, but expecting a new relationship partner to accept less than previous partners got while asking them to put in more than previous partners put in, I think is unacceptable.
	I think that's even where the first problem is, too.
	You're bringing your past relationships into your new relationship.
	Yeah, there's going to be times where you talk about your past relationships, but if you're so caught up on my past relationships, like if you're so caught up on it and you don't feel like this relationship's going to work for you, or you feel like I'm leveraging this stuff on you, like, like she said, there is a switch for some people, and then there are women who use it as a leverage.
	And I can't fend for them because I don't know.
	But like, you can't really sit here and be like, well, she had all this body count, and I'm or not, I don't want to say that you said you're less, but you can't fathom or wrap your head around it.
	But at the end of the day, like, if you don't, if you don't want that, then no.
	Okay, here, I'll give you an analogy.
	All right, so thoughts on this situation: you've been in a situation with a guy for six months, you really like him, you want him to commit to you, but he says he likes to take things slow.
	Somehow, you find out that the last three girls he had a committed relationship with, he initiated the commitment conversation after only three weeks of dating.
	How does that make you feel?
	And what does that say about how he views you?
	Wait, say the last part again?
	Sorry.
	The last, the next one is: you said he didn't have that conversation until after three weeks, like saying he wants to take things slow.
	What are you like not understanding about it?
	No, he said he that he wants to take things slow, but then you learn that his previous relationships he moved faster with, but he lied to you saying, I like to go slow when his history shows that he does not like to go slow.
	I mean, I would hope he had learned something from one relationship to the next, and if it doesn't, it's just going to be revealed.
	And then you make that decision if you want to.
	Wouldn't you feel a little short-changed, though?
	I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm going to feel some type of way, but I'm not going to sit there and cry about it and be like, oh my gosh, he likes me.
	Yeah, okay, if he lied to me, and this is something I'm not interested in, and he lied to me, he already broke that trust.
	All right, here's another scenario.
	Okay.
	There's been no changes at all to his financial standing.
	You find out that a man you've been on a date with and he took you to, he didn't pick you up, made you take the bus.
	You met him at McDonald's.
	You find out that all his previous dates, he took them to three-star Michelin restaurants, paid for the whole date, but he took you to McDonald's and he had you split.
	But he only did that because, you know, he thinks you're the one.
	Like, you're worth waiting for.
	Anything?
	That's the only reason because he thinks you're worth waiting for.
	Yeah, like he's like all like all the other girls, they didn't matter.
	Like they were just flings.
	They were just friends with benefits.
	And he bought them gifts.
	He took them on trips.
	He provided.
	He paid for first dates, roses, etc.
	But now you're the girl that he wants to be in a long-term relationship with.
	But because of that, you don't get any of those benefits that the previous women got.
	You know, just the girls that really didn't matter.
	They were just flings, hookups, whatever.
	You don't get flowers.
	You don't get dates.
	You don't get trips.
	But you're the girl who's worthy of a long-term relationship.
	Is that like forever?
	Are you just talking about in the initial dating phase?
	Oh, no, just an arbitrary, you know, could be three months until he starts to do some of those nice things for you.
	Well, why would that potentially be a negative if the only reason, the specific only reason that he's doing that is because he feels like you're the one and he's waiting to show those things because maybe in the past he's done that too quickly with people that didn't matter.
	Wouldn't that be a positive?
	Nope.
	In what world does providing to that level with a woman tend to negatively impact his odds of having a long-term relationship with her?
	Well, I don't know.
	Personally, can I ask a question?
	Yeah, I was going to say, how many women use men for that type of crap and then go on to the next one?
	So let's assume he did have a bad experience.
	I'll just grant that.
	Why would it be wrong for a woman to feel like, oh, he took all, he cared about these past girls way more.
	He did way more for them.
	He provided for them.
	I feel like chopped liver.
	I feel like, why is he doing all that shit for girls he claims he didn't give a fuck about?
	Why is he doing all that stuff for these hookups and girls he doesn't care about?
	I'm his girlfriend.
	I'm the girl that he says that he's serious about and he wants more and he wants it to have more meaning and he wants a relationship.
	Obviously he respects her as being a boss babe.
	I don't even think it's that already kind of like I said before, like bringing in those past relationships and how he treated other women.
	That's where comparison starts to come in.
	If I'm already comparing you to the game, you don't think like if you girls found out that a guy you're dating, he never takes you on dates, never does romantic shit, but he's your boyfriend.
	He tells you he adores you and cares so much about you and you're better than all the other girls he's dated in the past.
	But you find out that he did all that stuff for girls that were just casual sex hookups, sneaky links, and he says, I didn't really care, you know, they were just fuck girls, whatever.
	I didn't really care about them.
	You wouldn't feel a certain type of way.
	Like, why was he giving these other girls who he used to date all this good treatment, gifts, vacations, dinner, et cetera?
	Why is he giving it to her?
	I should deserve that.
	Yeah, and after a while, like she said, like, is it just the beginning phase?
	Like, if it's that beginning phase, cool, awesome.
	And that's where healthy communication comes in is like, hey, like, you know what, to spend time with each other, I'd like to go out to dinner, expressing that too.
	I mean, and because sometimes I feel like a simple answer to this is comparison is the thief of joy.
	And just that's it.
	If you keep comparing, you're just going to have your joy taken from you.
	Yeah, you should never bring in your past relationships.
	You're telling me as a woman, if you were dating a guy and he never did anything romantic, he never took you out on a hand.
	It depends, as we're saying it.
	You're telling me, as I fine, comparison is the thief of joy or whatever.
	You're telling me as a woman, if you knew, you knew verifiably that he did all these things for girls he claims he didn't care about, but he's dating you.
	He wants long-term with you, never takes you on dates, just a homebody.
	You just chill, Netflix, and chill, whatever.
	You wouldn't feel any type of way.
	You wouldn't think, does he really like me?
	Because why did all the previous women get this good treatment?
	But I don't.
	I even think, too, my validation doesn't come in the things he does for me.
	It's the way he treats me in a sense of how he provides for me spiritually, emotionally.
	Yeah, and I get where you're coming from, like feeling some type of way about the way he's treating you.
	And that's where just communication comes in.
	If you want more, ask for more.
	Ask and you shall receive.
	Knock on the door and the door will be open.
	Yeah, no, you ask and he says, No, I want to wait a couple months.
	A couple months to start providing for you?
	Yeah, I want to wait a couple months to be a provider and to take you out on romantic dates.
	Let's just keep things, you know, like let's not, you know, do dates at all.
	Just come over and let's hang out.
	I'm not going to be able to do that.
	We could just be friends until then.
	We don't have to be boyfriend and girl.
	Oh, no, there's a romantic interest.
	I'm just, I don't want to do those things.
	Why?
	If she really likes you, she'll look past you.
	I mean, revenge?
	Is it like for revenge?
	What do you mean?
	Because the girl's not having sex, or is it?
	No, bro.
	No, we're not.
	What a camp ball.
	I'm trying to like, paint this like the male comparison of like, just to put it into your heads, like how you might feel if you found out that an ex or even like a casual fling that he had got this like amazing treatment from him and you as the girl he claims to really care about and wants something long-term you don't get any of that treatment.
	You don't get gifts, you don't get dates, you don't get romance, you don't get um, all these things you don't get providing for.
	I think even you can protect yourself.
	I think providing protecting, I don't know.
	But yeah, you can protect until we're married, you can just protect for yourself.
	You can protect yourself.
	Stick quiet on this.
	You would have to show that in another way, like he can't, he has to show that he cares in a different way than I think it's part of emotionally that he cares at all.
	Because, because that's that's the counterpoint of like.
	For women, it's withholding sex.
	For men, it's withholding that, that visual or that emotional feels, because that's what women thrive on.
	Women thrive on feeling that wantedness from a man and men thrive on feeling the physical of sex.
	So he, it's the double standard.
	Nobody wants a double standard and yet women are more willing to say, you have to deal with my double standards, but i'm not going to deal with your double standards.
	I think it just comes down at the end of the day is to the woman's standards and her standards for herself, her standards for the relationship, her communication, and I don't think men should really not provide at all until like a good three to six months in.
	I don't disagree.
	A guy shouldn't pay for dates.
	You should just go 50-50.
	You know, he shouldn't protect her, you know, until like three to six months in.
	He shouldn't do really anything.
	I think women should work with me.
	No, okay, so see, I think like the roles as a human, as a human, as a like protecting, providing, all the things.
	And then if we look at the as a wife, honor, respect, it's like we're going to do that from the get-go, not just until we're married, but the whole sex part, that's just something in itself that comes back to being equally yoked.
	If you guys both know why, but if you guys don't, if you guys are not unequally yoked, or if you guys aren't even in that frame, then yeah.
	Anyways, I do have to move things on.
	Nick, before we go to Twitch, I do have a quick question for the whole panel.
	Let's see here.
	I kind of need to wait until she's back.
	So let me read chats and then we'll ask the question.
	Sorry that we're finally getting to this anonymous.
	It took a while.
	A guy meets two women.
	One sleeps with every guy on first or second date.
	The other woman is waiting for marriage.
	Which one of these two women would make the guy a better man?
	One sleeps with every guy on.
	Which one of these two women would make the guy a better man?
	Probably the one who's making him wait until marriage.
	Dang.
	Thank you, Anonymous.
	That's good, Anonymous.
	Appreciate it.
	That's a word.
	Came out, yeah.
	Mateus, for the prot girl prattling, being born again doesn't eradicate your past or your convictions.
	Go learn what justification means, please.
	Glory to Jesus.
	Glory.
	Oh, what the fuck?
	You got it.
	Come on.
	Don't let the devil stop you.
	Glory to Jesus Christ.
	Glory forever.
	There you go.
	There we go.
	Thank you, Mateus.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Thank you.
	Did you have a response to Mateus?
	No, I didn't really fully read it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, there you go.
	Question for the whole panel going around the table.
	So, have you ever seen a beautiful girl with a mid-guy?
	Starting with you?
	Yeah, pretty much all the time.
	All the time.
	Pretty common thing.
	More common than the reverse?
	Yeah.
	Like a mid-chick with like a hot dude?
	I don't know.
	I think like I've seen hot chicks study mid-guys more often than the reverse.
	No, if you want to cure hiccups, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	I mean, it just depends on what you define as hot, what's not hot.
	But if you're looking at the physical attribute, yeah, there's maybe some girls that seem like they're out of the guysly that are together.
	More common than the reverse?
	No, to be honest.
	I feel like it's kind of equal.
	Equal?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, equal, definitely.
	Equal in terms of like I've seen a girl with a mid-guy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I've seen it both.
	Equal?
	I think typically probably a more beautiful woman with the mid-guy.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think it's more a higher, sexier man with a mid-girl.
	Maddie Morgan?
	A beautiful woman with the mid-guy.
	Yeah, I agree.
	All right.
	Nick, go to Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
	Stay safe.
	Thank you again for that raid.
	You're probably gone, but thank you, bro.
	Guys, drop us a follow if you're watching on Twitch.
	If you're watching on YouTube, open up in the tab twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow.
	We're doing Twitch exclusive streams.
	Are you guys streaming tomorrow?
	You guys going to stream tomorrow?
	Nick, you free?
	No, we can talk about it later.
	Okay, that might be a no.
	Okay, we'll see.
	Okay, and then.
	Help.
	Guys, 25 minutes since we've last had a prime.
	I think it's bugged.
	I think our Twitch is bugged.
	Can somebody do a little test in the chat?
	Maddie?
	Help.
	Morgan?
	Help.
	Help.
	Okay, cool.
	Thanks, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	We do have a question from our dear friend Stiffler.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
	Can't pick 7, starting with you, Go.
	Okay, I don't like this question because I normally let other people rate my looks, but if I have to, I'll be like 8.5.
	Okay, what about you?
	10.
	Fully confident.
	Into my look.
	10.
	Fully confident in myself.
	Okay.
	What an uncomfortable question.
	Right.
	Why is it uncomfortable?
	It literally makes me so uncomfortable because I have no idea.
	Some people might think I'm super cute.
	Some people might think I'm super ugly.
	Personally, I think I'm cute.
	Well, what's your own self-assessment?
	I don't know.
	I guess I would say seven would so be my answer.
	I'll give it an eight.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Some people think I'm a one, some people think I'm a ten.
	I think I'm a ten.
	Okay.
	Six typically, eight on a good day when I'm all dolled up.
	All right.
	A four.
	Maddie.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Morgan.
	I would say eight.
	Give myself a five.
	Andrew, what about you?
	Come on.
	Ten.
	Ten.
	He's obviously a ten.
	Who said ten?
	I did.
	I would say a four.
	Confident ten.
	He got excited.
	He was like.
	So ten, eight, ten.
	Let's start there.
	Here we go.
	So I'm going to kind of just steal Andrew's question here.
	So if we asked a hundred random men to rate your physical attractiveness, would that change that answer?
	Like, what would the average rating be?
	To answer your first question, it would not change my answer.
	Their average rating, I have no idea what it would be.
	Well, yeah, I mean, so I guess what would your answer be to the new question then?
	What they would say?
	What do you think if we asked 100 random men to rate your physical attractiveness?
	What do you think the average rating would be?
	Still 10?
	No, because men are, they all have their different tastes, all their, what they like and everything.
	Anywhere, it could be from 1 to 10.
	Honestly, I couldn't even give you a score because there could be a guy who is not physically attracted to me at all, but then there's guys who are like, oh, yeah, so I couldn't even give you an average rating.
	Well, a guy could be attracted to you but still give you a rating.
	I mean, yeah, but there's still that, oh, I like, they look good, so I'm going to give them this number.
	What do you mean?
	So if a guy, like you said, he could not be attracted to me but still give me a rating.
	I wouldn't know what that rating would be because there's guys who have different what they what they like what they don't like.
	Okay, let me bump it to 100,000 men.
	So 100,000 men.
	What about that?
	Average rating of all those?
	I don't know.
	Anywhere from a five to a ten, but that still wouldn't change my answer.
	Okay.
	Can I ask a question?
	Sure.
	You guys are both Christians, and ten is perfect, but are you guys perfect?
	No, the way I like I'm confident in who God says I am.
	He says I'm beautifully and wonderfully made, so I'm going to be confident in that, in the word.
	So I'm not sure.
	That gives you nowhere to grow.
	Yeah, there's always going to grow experience.
	Not when you're at 10.
	No, I'm talking about confidence.
	10 out of 100.
	Wait, you wouldn't change anything about it, though.
	Go ahead, Madison.
	No.
	Oh, I was also saying, like, the question is essentially rate your looks, not rate your confidence.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, the way I look at my name, but I would say my confidence is probably higher than an 8.
	Wait, so just to be clear, you're 23, correct?
	Yes.
	And you're a 10 out of 10 looks.
	You're a virgin.
	And yet you're single.
	Yeah.
	How could this possibly be?
	I don't.
	It's not God's timing, and I don't just.
	There's been many times.
	But you said you've been in situationships.
	Yeah.
	Did you end it or did they?
	I did.
	You ended it.
	Okay.
	Don't you?
	Well, let's ask a quick follow-up to our Christian friends in the panel.
	You're honest, correct?
	Yes.
	And are you honest?
	To the girl in the white shirt?
	Yes.
	Name's Victoria.
	The girl next to you.
	Are you honest?
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Rate each other.
	10.
	10.
	That's not honesty.
	Wait.
	It is because of the game.
	I don't know.
	So you're a whole bunch of fucking liars, is what you just got going on.
	No, wait, we're not.
	So all of you are 10s, so none of you are 10s.
	Now, I got to ask: all of you look exactly alike.
	You're carbon clones of each other, or you're not.
	No offense, but one of you guys has had work done.
	Yeah, so I don't understand.
	I thought you just got done telling me that you guys were on this.
	Can you rate the girl next to you honestly or can't you?
	What?
	Can you rate the girl next to you honestly or can't you?
	So, okay, I'm still going.
	What?
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I'm laughing at something else.
	I still think that the whole perspective on the 10 is because, like I said last time, I have to always put myself in a place where I look at myself as a 10.
	So wherever I walk in, the way I think about myself isn't a confident.
	Because if I were to not, and I think from my flesh and be hard on myself and listen to the devil, I'll give myself a really low number for what?
	What does that do for anybody?
	And if we're looking at like the average, but what does that do?
	Because I had people that tell me that I'm ugly, but I've had men that tell me I'm super beautiful.
	Sure, yeah.
	What about what is she?
	What is the girl next to you?
	She's a 10.
	Well, not in the room to talk about.
	And the girl next to you on your left.
	Hang on.
	And the girl next to you on your left, what is she?
	Alyssa.
	I'm sorry, the red dress.
	The girl in the red dress.
	What is she?
	She's a 10 as well.
	Wait, hold on.
	In fact, let me just say that.
	Literally, I'm not going to be to anyone.
	Is there any girl at the table you wouldn't rate as a 10?
	No, I'm not going to do that.
	Yeah, so, and you're an honest person, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Sandy, don't worry about it.
	Because you're telling me that the way God looks at us, oh, that girl.
	Yeah, she's not ugly.
	Oh, she's ugly.
	She's ugly.
	Just asking you for a societal beauty standard from your own perspective.
	That's always changing, though.
	The culture doesn't change.
	Yeah, so even though it's always changing.
	When I was in middle school, super short.
	Whatever hair currently is, that's not changed in your life.
	It was poofy hair.
	Now it's like, I don't even know.
	I can't keep up with all the culture standards.
	It's like, so beauty standards is whatever.
	So is there any woman on planet Earth who's not a 10?
	This girl right here.
	No, let her answer the question.
	Is there any woman on planet Earth who isn't a 10?
	No.
	Ah.
	No.
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	So then, yeah, there we go.
	I got to jump in.
	Hang on.
	Is there any woman on planet Earth who's a Satanist?
	No.
	Thank you, Hazel Rebecca.
	No?
	I didn't say no to her.
	You didn't even listen to the question.
	She's not even listening.
	I was reading the comment.
	I was reading the comment.
	She's the one that said yes to Satanist, you dork.
	You said no.
	There's no woman on the table.
	She did.
	That was not me.
	You're laughing at yourself.
	One sec.
	Since Spider is out, if Kamala, if you know you vote in Fahrenheit.
	And if Nya Trump, who would you like the Democratic nominee to be?
	Hold on.
	We're going to have to come back to this.
	Thank for the TTS.
	We're just in the middle of the rating thing.
	So I'm going to write this down.
	I said, is there any woman on planet Earth who's not a Satanist?
	You said no.
	That was her.
	Wait, hold on.
	I was listening to the comment.
	I wasn't even listening to your question.
	Yeah, I know you weren't listening.
	The comment had my name.
	That's the problem that you have.
	The comment had my name.
	All right, hold on.
	Let me ask you.
	So let me ask: if every woman on planet Earth is a 10, then what does 10 mean?
	It's different to everybody.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	What is it?
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	What does it mean for objective beauty standards?
	So, for instance, if a woman, if a woman was 800 pounds and her arms and legs were lopped off and half of her face was burned off, do you think objectively most men would find her attractive?
	She'd be unhealthy and she'd have some type of disability, yes.
	But tell me she's a 10.
	Lie to me.
	Lie to me and tell me she's a 10.
	She's a 10 in her own way in God's eyes.
	I'm not going to do society.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what else I can say to show how delusional you are.
	It's not delusional.
	I'm just not going to deliver.
	You have a ministry when all you do is not.
	How you can have a ministry when all you do is lie.
	Why would I, okay, so if I told her you're a one, how is that not degrading?
	How is that beneficial to anybody?
	How is that loving?
	How is that gentle?
	How is it?
	I thought you believed in the truth.
	Do you believe in the truth?
	Okay, the fruit of the spirit is kind, loving.
	That's not loving.
	Why would I tell you?
	You're not loving to tell me that I'm a 10 when I'm not.
	But you should look at yourself as a 10, and as I do too.
	And when I do, I'm going to go work out more.
	I'm going to go eat better.
	I'm going to do that because I'm going to.
	I want to be.
	I'm already perfect.
	Why do I need to make myself look better?
	Well, that's your mindset.
	I'm thinking I'm a 10, so I'm going to try even harder to improve yourself to nothing because you're hurting.
	You can always improve yourself.
	Then you're not a 10.
	That's okay, but you saying that, that's just a cop-out.
	Of course, there's always room to grow.
	But I'm saying I'm not going to sit here and degrade someone and put a number on them.
	I'm just not.
	But saying that you're a 10 out of a 10 means you're a perfect scale.
	Okay, let me ask you a different question.
	I'm 10, and I'm going to be a little bit of a 100%.
	Are there some people who are prettier or better looking than other people?
	In other people's eyes, yes.
	100%.
	No, even in.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let me jump in.
	Let me jump in.
	Oh, gosh.
	So I asked a question that says, have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid-guy?
	Yeah.
	So just by you answering that question, you've already conceded that you can make determinations as to physical attractiveness.
	Right.
	And you said, well, it's equal.
	I've seen both mid-men with beautiful women, and I've seen beautiful men with mid-women.
	Yes.
	So you yourself can make analysis on people's physical attractions.
	But even then, I've had this conversation with my friend.
	As a Christian, we should all look at everybody as beautiful and as perfect, right?
	As Christian.
	Yes, we're made in the image of God.
	Yes, we can.
	It doesn't mean we're perfect.
	Okay, but what I'm saying is, okay, if I see someone that is 100 pounds, I mean 400 pounds, of course, it breaks my heart because it's like, okay, they're unhealthy and they don't see themselves at a 10.
	That's why they're at that level.
	Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
	Hang on.
	You know what?
	I just want to ask this one quick question.
	We should see everybody as a 10.
	I think everyone should see themselves as a 10 and think themselves as an encourage each other.
	You said, as a Christian, we should see everybody as a 10.
	Yeah, and like in God, through God's eyes.
	But if we look at it through society and like, so let me ask you something.
	Do you think that chomos are tens?
	I don't even know what that is.
	It's a person who diddles kids.
	Do you think they're 10s?
	What the fuck?
	What does that to do with their?
	I just want to make sure through God's eyes, we're seeing it the same way.
	Are they 10s?
	That is God's child, and he's heartbroken and lost and needs Jesus.
	So they're perfect.
	They're perfect too, right?
	I don't think God sees us as perfect, though.
	Okay, he sees us as in his image.
	And of course, the whole killer thing, that's a whole nother conversation, though.
	Now we're talking about characteristics and values and all that.
	Yeah, because you brought all that in and said that that is part of what makes you a 10 or not a 10.
	So I'm asking you if that is a part of what makes you a 10 or not a 10?
	Is a person who didddles kids a 10 because he sees them through God's eyes?
	Physically, he could be superheroes.
	I see them through God's eyes, and God just loved them anyway, even though they did this heinous act.
	No, mentally, no, but I feel like, yeah, he could be born again.
	He could be a 10 and change his ways of thinking.
	Of course, he can.
	And no one's unredeemable.
	Even people that are extremely overweight.
	Let's keep it onto the looks thing.
	Let's keep it onto the looks.
	But I think that's what makes somebody see somebody else.
	They can't engage with the looks.
	They refuse.
	Because the 10 is you love them for their imperfections.
	So, no, to the world, they are not a 10, but in your eyes, they are a 10.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It means you have to admit that not everyone is a 10.
	In your eyes, they're a 10.
	You can look at everybody and look at them as a 10 and look at them for their best selves, right?
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	So, fuck, I gotta wait until your friend's back for this.
	Do I?
	Well, I'll ask one in the interim.
	Did people go to hell?
	Yes, of course.
	Did God see him as 10s?
	Oh, because they rejected him.
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	Well, that's weird.
	So you're saying that, wait, everybody is.
	Wait, you're saying God doesn't see everybody?
	Well, no, you said it wasn't just physical.
	You said I can't make this distinguishment between the physical.
	It's a whole package, right?
	I'm just not going to sit here and degrade someone.
	I don't think my God is going to want me to.
	If God was sitting right here.
	I'm not going to see it as degrading, though.
	I think it's degrading.
	Why?
	Yeah, I know, because you think that lying is preferable.
	It's not lying.
	It's not lying, but it's.
	I'm degrading.
	How is it not?
	Yeah, you just said every woman on the phone.
	Because what if physically is a 10 and you're going to tell me that you're going to be in the middle of the day?
	I'm not going to sit here and tell and put insecurities into my own perspective and put insecurities on women.
	Just because of my perspective, why would I sit here and do that?
	I'm not going to do that.
	Because it's what's true.
	Do you wear makeup?
	Okay, yes, I do.
	Why do you wear makeup?
	Because it's my way of expressing myself, just the same way I do braids.
	But I also, for people that know me, I go without makeup and bareface a lot of times as well.
	It just depends on within.
	Well, can we finish?
	Let us finish our discussion almost done and then I'll turn it over.
	It's different.
	Right, but I would like to finish this.
	I would like to know: isn't it so that for you to condemn people who are heretics and to condemn non-Christians for the activities that they do, you're going to have to be degrading?
	I'm sorry, I was reading the comments again.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	I'll ask again.
	Go ahead.
	Isn't it true that in order for you to condemn heretics and condemn people who go against the word of God, that you're going to have to be degrading?
	Uh, no.
	Degrading?
	No.
	So if somebody tells you that their mother made them into a secularist and that their mother physically abused them and this is the way that they are, and you say that their mother is wrong, would that be degrading their mother?
	I don't know, but this is like a word salad.
	You don't know?
	It's not a word salad.
	Yeah, it is.
	Because I'm just saying.
	How can you have conversations with people without risking offense and degradation?
	How is that even possible?
	If you're going to try to convince them of a worldview, how is it possible that you can make it every single time so that they take no offense and no degradation?
	How is that even possible?
	Yeah, but when it comes to looks, it's different.
	We're not talking about something that's so deep.
	It's like, because at the end of the day, I know there's a man that looks at her and he's like, she's a 10.
	A man's going to look at her and she's a 10.
	A man's going to look at me at, so who am I to put that, my perception or beauty standards that are going to constantly be changing?
	But that's what we're asking for.
	I think that's actually for that man's beauty perception.
	We're not asking you for that woman's beauty perception.
	We're asking for your beauty perception, yours.
	No, it's ever-changing, so I don't, I'm not going to rely on my ever-changing perception.
	Just same thing.
	Sometimes, okay, I went through a phase where I thought braids were really ugly.
	Now I'm wearing them.
	It's like standards are always changing.
	So why am I going to sit here and point and give numbers to girls?
	Like, that's just.
	That's actually not really even what the conversation is about.
	Yeah, it is.
	We're grading with we're asking you from your subjective viewpoint on subjective beauty standards, from your subjective viewpoint of what you consider beautiful and not beautiful to be, to give yourself a rating based on that.
	It's fascinating for somebody who's Christian who has such because Christians have such a very set worldview of this is how you should live your life, but yet you're so unwilling to say, yes, there is a beauty standard.
	It's just, I don't, I can't sit here and say that even that's biblical.
	Like, where in the Bible is saying that some people are ugly, somebody's saying it's biblical, but it's saying you have such a hard life structure of I have to do these things to be a good Christian, but I'm not willing to say that there is such a thing as a beauty standard.
	The beauty standard is always changing, though, so I'm not going to sit here and rate.
	Well, then that means that there was one at some point.
	So whenever the standard, before the standard changed, to whatever the standard is to the standard, to the standard, there was a standard.
	So based on whatever you think that standard is right now, can you tell us what yours is?
	No, I'm just not.
	No.
	This is the only one I just, even the last time, it just doesn't, it goes in circles and it never makes sense.
	But like the comment said, you should grade your wife and put a picture of your wife up.
	Yeah, my wife's a six.
	I think Rachel's beautiful.
	I think she's a now.
	Now, is there any chance now that I've answered your question honestly that you'll answer mine?
	No.
	No, no, Andrew.
	I can't do that because I'm a fucking lying heretic and I just preach a false gospel constantly.
	I can't answer a single question you ask me honestly.
	It's impossible, Andrew.
	You could just go ahead and say that.
	That would be okay, too.
	Yeah, like that comment is good too.
	Yeah, beauty is always fleeting.
	There's no constant in it.
	So it's just, I'm not going to sit here and just, I'm just not.
	I'm just not going to.
	Yeah, you're not going to be able to do that.
	Okay, well, I've got some questions.
	You know, a question that might risk offense to somebody else, even if it was true from your viewpoint, which is exactly why women shouldn't be ministers because you suck at it.
	You refuse to engage in what's actually being asked.
	That's why you're a bunch of atheist factories.
	You people are atheist factories.
	You make atheists out of people.
	You don't make Christians out of them.
	Yes.
	No biggie difference.
	Well, I have a couple.
	Oh, he needs a smoke break.
	Okay.
	I have a couple questions.
	So 10, 10, 8, if I recall, for the two 10s here at the table.
	So then you guys do think, comparatively speaking, that you're the most attractive girls at the table.
	No, I think we all are.
	You're just all equally attractive.
	Yeah, I'm not going to engage in this conversation anymore.
	Like, so we can just not ask.
	Well, I mean, Andrew had his.
	But I didn't answer it because I'm just not.
	When it comes to the question, this is the only question I won't.
	I just can't.
	I just don't want to.
	It's degrading.
	It's just, I'm not going to stay here.
	How is it degrading?
	Personally, okay, that's how I feel.
	So, a lot of people haven't said a lot on the pod and there was no problem.
	So, I'm gonna sit this.
	Well, there's two there's two women who said that they're tens.
	Yeah, that's in my eyes.
	I mean, I don't rate anyone.
	Some of the some of the women here rated themselves lower.
	Are you saying that they're wrong in their own self-assessment?
	No, if that's how they feel, I mean, that's how they feel.
	But at the same time, I may feel like they are right.
	So, but okay.
	Since you guys did rate yourself the highest, are you guys prepared to sit here and say that you guys are the most attractive women at the table, both of you?
	No, and I'm not going to answer anymore when it comes to this.
	You're not going to.
	I mean, I have more questions on this, so I'm going to keep asking you.
	Doesn't God tell you to be humble?
	So that's why I'm not going to answer these questions.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	I mean, I don't need to answer all the questions.
	Like, I really don't.
	I don't know why.
	If I don't want to talk about this specific question, if it's that much of a problem, then it's a problem.
	But I just don't want to engage in this specific question.
	Why?
	That's it.
	Why?
	Can you say why?
	I've already said it.
	I'm just not going to say anything.
	Are you not going to say anything?
	Say, I answered my question.
	Are you not going to engage in the conversation?
	I can't speak for her.
	I'm asking you.
	I'm not asking you to speak for her.
	I'm asking if you'll engage.
	Engage in.
	Or are you going to be a sheep and follow your friend?
	No, I gave you an answer.
	To what?
	What?
	I asked if you're going to engage in the conversation.
	Oh, yeah, I can if I feel comfortable, but it's like I already gave you an answer to the last question.
	So if you're looking to ask more questions, I will then answer.
	Yeah, great.
	Okay, well then answer.
	Okay.
	Is there a beauty standard which you hold?
	A beauty standard that I hold.
	Yeah.
	Are you going to lie to me?
	Are you going to tell me the truth?
	Are you going to finish that sentence?
	Are you going to lie to me or are you going to tell me the truth?
	Is there a beauty standard that you hold?
	Do you hold a standard for what you consider to be beautiful?
	I mean, from my perspective, my views of beauty is going to look different to everyone else.
	Just your perspective, sure.
	That's all I'm asking for.
	Do you hold one?
	For myself, I mean.
	For everybody who you encounter?
	I mean, I'm not going around just rating people or saying, like, oh, they look like this.
	Well, sure.
	No, I understand that everybody you meet, you may not think whether or not they're beautiful, but certainly there's many people you meet who you think are less attractive than other people, right?
	Yeah, maybe people's physical attributes look different or they look more enhanced than others.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I agree.
	So there are some people from your standard who you think are less attractive than others, right?
	In my perspective, yeah.
	Okay, that's totally reasonable and completely fair.
	Can you tell me, based on those standards, if we were to go around the table, can you go ahead and tell me based on those standards and rate each one of those women?
	I don't feel comfortable doing that.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's valid that if I don't feel like comfortable doing that, they're doing that.
	Every single, every single time.
	Every single time.
	Okay, well, let me ask you this.
	Can you rate Brian?
	According to my standards, like we said, I have my own standards and everything.
	10.
	10.
	She said 10.
	According to what I like and what I'm attracted to, a second.
	Yeah.
	A what?
	A setting.
	Okay, great.
	I'm glad that you could do that for Brian.
	No, but now do it for the now.
	Do it for the girl to your right.
	Oh, okay, go ahead.
	Do you want to do it to Manny?
	You want to rate?
	She says she should.
	Yeah, go ahead and now that you've done it with Brian, what would be the distinguishment for why you feel comfortable doing it to a man, but not to a woman?
	Because me as a female, I'm attracted to men.
	I'm not attracted to women.
	I mean, it's easier for me to do.
	But you still have a subjective standard for what is attractive in women as well.
	Yeah, but like I said, I don't feel comfortable doing that.
	Only for the men.
	Wait, I have a question.
	You're totally not a feminist, right?
	You're totally not a feminist, but you feel fine judging men, telling them to their face what you think the standard is.
	But when it comes to women, well, I just couldn't do that.
	I couldn't.
	That's a bridge too far, Andrew, right?
	Sure.
	Women need to be coddled.
	100%.
	Right.
	So, okay.
	I found it interesting, though, because you are able to make these determinations.
	You gave yourself a 10, yet I'm a seven.
	So your assessment of my physical attractiveness is three points below yours.
	I found that interesting.
	Interesting.
	I found that interesting.
	I would actually say that, I mean, trying to be as objective as I can.
	I would actually say that in terms of our physical appearance, we're probably fairly comparable.
	But you might even be one point below me.
	I'm not saying that to insult you.
	Just objectively.
	I'm trying to be as objective as possible.
	But your assessment is I'm three points below you.
	But you also rated me two points below my own rating, which I also find interesting.
	Yeah, like I said, like we, like we discuss, like we have what we are attracted to, what we're not attracted to.
	Chat, chat, be super fair.
	Don't just like dunk on her just because she thinks she's a 10.
	Be super fair.
	When it comes just to looks, who would be settling here?
	Go ahead, chat.
	Just looks.
	And be fair.
	You realize.
	So as you guys, and this is what I call extreme virtue signaling, the reason that we're kind of harping on this, I want to give you the rationale so that you now understand why we're harping on this.
	One of the reasons that dating, at least in modernity, seems so messed up is because it seems to be impossible for men and women to have honest conversations without what I would call female narcissism or women literally just lying.
	And it's because they actually follow the book of be nice, not the book of the Bible, which says nowhere to be nice.
	When you say kindness, kindness is not the same as nice.
	And I think that this is often conflated.
	And so I think that what ends up happening is there's no honesty left in these conversations because a man is asking a question.
	We know for sure you're full of shit when we're asking you, do you have a beauty standard?
	And you say, no, we know you're fucking lying through your teeth.
	We know all of us know it.
	Not some of us.
	I said yes.
	Every single one of us know that that's total bullshit.
	And so if you were to ask this question and a woman kind of engages with it and says, no, I actually believe everyone's a 10, you realize that we all know you're lying.
	All of us know that.
	Not some of us, not a few of us.
	All of us know that.
	And so how in the world can you have this reconciliation when it comes to dating, when it comes to these conversations, when it comes to being open and honest with each other?
	If you can't even tell the fucking truth about what you think about a beauty standard, why would I assume then that if I were dating you, you wouldn't lie to me?
	Why would I assume then that if I were dating you, you wouldn't lie about what my preferences were in order to make myself or yourself happy?
	How's that equally yoked?
	How's that biblical?
	How does that even make sense from a secularist perspective?
	It just seems absurd to me.
	Oh, are you done?
	Okay.
	So, like I said, I did say that there is a beauty standard from what I like and maybe what I think.
	But like you said, like if you're, say, you're in a relationship and you're talking about me lying, I mean, if I'm going out with you, obviously there's an attraction there or I find you attractive.
	Like I said, like the rating I gave him was based on what I like.
	I don't need to like know what everyone else is liking.
	Like for me, but even too, when I gave my answer, like rating my looks, like for me, like I said, like I wouldn't want, like, if I'm confident in myself, like, that's just confident.
	So let me, let me take over here for a bit.
	Okay, so you're a 10, I'm a seven.
	Assuming we, you know, I met your other standards, you would not date me based off of this, correct?
	Because I'm below you in terms of physical appearance, right?
	I won't be offended.
	I won't be offended.
	It's not just in physical appearance.
	There's a lot of other things.
	Yeah, but assuming like I met your other things, like I was a good guy, whatever, Christian, et cetera, you just wouldn't date me based on looks, right?
	No.
	If you had, say someone was a Christian and they had all the checkboxes, like the standards, like we have the same standards or whatever it is, and you're a seven, I'm not going to be so hung up on the physical looks.
	But would you be settling?
	You feel like you'd be settling on the looks thing.
	You're three points above me in your physical.
	No, because I believe as we grow in the relationship, like God will give me even more of an attraction to whoever my spouse will be.
	No, but you said I'm a seven and you're a 10, so you would be settling regardless of your growing attraction for me.
	I mean, I guess if you put it that way, and I understand what you're saying, like I rated you a seven, I rated myself a 10.
	That's just how I, like, for me, I would not want to rate myself anything below a 10 because I wouldn't want to seem like I'm not secure in myself or confident in myself, which I'm not.
	Why would you rating your.
	So do you think because I rate myself a five, I'm not secure in myself?
	No, not that.
	I'm saying for myself.
	I'm not talking about anybody else.
	You need to put on a facade of a projected belief about your physical attractiveness to be secure.
	No, it's not a facade.
	I find it believable in my book.
	So it's not just about being confident.
	You genuinely, aside from your confidence, you genuinely have your own self, your own assessment of your own physical attractiveness is genuinely that you are a 10.
	You are among the most beautiful women in the world.
	I think it's not just, I, because I'm going to get into a little bit more.
	I'm not just basing it off of my physical looks.
	I'm looking at it in my question was looks.
	Yeah, you just said looks.
	No, that's sad.
	That's super insecure.
	I don't know why you guys are all so insecure.
	I don't know why there's so much insecurity that if we ask you your looks, you can't just be honest about it, but instead have to bring in other qualia that you think you need to introduce in order to make yourself more appealing to people.
	Why can't you just be honest?
	Why are you all so insecure?
	I'm not insecure.
	Are you just telling you what else I factor in?
	To be honest, it sounds like insecurity to me.
	Like if I were, if, if, if I were, for instance, to walk around and be a braggadocious, you know, kind of over the top saying that I was, oh, I was a 10, I'm 11.
	I'm the most beautiful man in the world.
	Wouldn't you say I was arrogant?
	Wouldn't you say I was egotistical?
	Right?
	Wouldn't you say that was a sign of insecurity?
	And yet here, it seems like it's a sign of insecurity from you.
	Why not just tell the truth about the actual question, which is what do you rate yourself physically rather than introducing other qualia?
	It sounds just like insecurity to me.
	Sounds like you're super insecure.
	Well, first of all, I'm not insecure.
	And second.
	I don't know.
	It sounds like you're insecure.
	Then answer the question.
	What do you actually rate yourself by physical beauty standards?
	By physical beauty standards on what people think the world possibly is considered beautiful.
	Probably I'm going to be seen as a seven.
	Or you're even lower.
	What about the girl?
	What about the girl to your right?
	Don't be insecure.
	The girl.
	We're talking about me.
	Don't be insecure.
	I'm not insecure.
	You sound like you're pretty insecure right now.
	Sounds like you're in.
	I'm going to rest my teeth.
	I'm not insecure, and that's it.
	For real.
	Oh, thank you.
	Okay.
	So you're insecure.
	Believe what you want to believe.
	Okay.
	It sounds like insecurity.
	I'm just saying.
	I'm not insecure.
	Well, I have a question for you.
	Can you tell us a public figure or celebrity who you feel is your male looks match or looks equivalent for the two tensors?
	Do you want to actually engage in good faith?
	Obviously, it's not Hazbula.
	No, not this, not this one.
	You can't think of a guy who you think.
	Yeah, we're in the same league.
	You can't think of it.
	I just want to engage in this kind of same thing.
	Why not?
	I just don't, Brian.
	I really don't.
	Why?
	Because it's going to reveal that you're wrong.
	No, it's just, it's just, I don't.
	I did it last time, and I just don't.
	I don't like the, I don't like the question.
	Just don't.
	Even watching it from other people.
	He doesn't like this podcast.
	I don't like seeing what.
	I just don't.
	Yeah, so I mean, I'll give you, what about you?
	Do you want to engage?
	Do you have a public figure or celebrity who you feel is your male looks match or equivalent?
	I would say I never really thought about that, that someone would be equivalent to me.
	So I really don't like it.
	Like in your league, like someone we can Google who you think is in your league looks-wise.
	You know, we'd obviously have to think of someone who has perhaps a bit of fame or celebrity.
	We can also a seven.
	We're going to discount the status.
	We're going to discount the status, the success, the money, just looks.
	That way we can actually Google a person who you think is like your looks equivalent.
	I don't even know.
	I know.
	You said you're a seven or a ten.
	I'm a little confused as to what the actual thing is.
	I just would not like to compare myself to that.
	Right, so who's okay, then who's a guy that you think is in your league?
	I think, Brian, we said, right?
	Well, you said you're seven.
	No, no, no.
	You said you were seven, so he said you were seven.
	So Brian's in your league.
	He's famous, right?
	Okay, I'm trying to maybe get somebody else, but, yeah, celebrity.
	I don't know.
	There's not a person in any movie that you've seen that you're like, he's by comparison.
	Or he's like a seven.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	I'll ask a different question for the whole panel going around the table.
	Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years as compared to how you look now?
	Starting with you?
	Yes.
	Okay, so you're 19.
	You'll be better looking at 29.
	Yeah.
	What about 39 compared to 19?
	I hope so.
	You hope you hope so.
	I hope you look better.
	So, but will you be more physically attractive at 39 than you are now at 19?
	So abstracting all other qualities and talking about physical appearance?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Probably I am more attractive now than I would be, but I'm not saying I'm going to be a babushka at 39.
	It's a choice.
	All right.
	But so more attractive at 29, but not more attractive at 39.
	Yeah, yes.
	Okay.
	Okay, so we're talking about objective, I don't know, people's societal kind of standards here.
	Yeah, so let's assume you're in the, I'm sorry, is it the motherland?
	Let's assume you're in the motherland.
	I think Russia's fatherland on the standards of the motherland.
	Father.
	They are judging your beauty standards, right?
	They're judging you currently versus you at 29 years old.
	Which would all of the men in the motherland prefer?
	My younger version.
	Yeah, that seems fair.
	So then there's no way you're going to be more attractive than that.
	We should.
	Let's get all the answers.
	Let's get all the answers.
	Would I be more attractive?
	Yes, you're 23.
	Do you think you'll be more attractive at 33?
	I mean, I would hope so.
	I just think it plays a factor.
	I mean, I'm still.
	Do you think you'll be more physically attractive at 33 than you are now at 23?
	Possibly.
	I don't.
	I think so, yeah.
	What about 43?
	Well, we're getting, as you grow older, I mean, age just catches up to you.
	Maybe, maybe not to other people.
	But you think you will peak at 33 as compared to now at 23?
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you don't know.
	So can I just get a yes or no?
	Will you be more physically attractive in 10 years' time?
	It just depends.
	I mean.
	On what?
	What?
	Because it could be a whole different standard in 10 years of what people think is beautiful.
	In my eyes, I'm going to still be confident that, yeah, I am beautiful.
	Maybe I'm going to have kids and maybe my body's going to look a little bit different in that sense.
	We're not saying that you won't be beautiful in 10 years.
	We're asking if you'll be more beautiful in 10 years than you are now.
	No, I think I'll be the same.
	You'll be the same.
	No difference.
	What about 43?
	Same, yeah.
	So you will be just as physically attractive at 43 years old than you are.
	What did you think I was talking about?
	I mean, just, I don't know.
	Just, I think I'm going to be.
	Okay, you're saying looks.
	I keep on wanting to pull into like emotions and all that stuff.
	So maybe, no, I'm not at 43.
	Okay.
	So then 33?
	No.
	Should say no.
	Okay.
	But I'll actually engage with you on this incorporating other things.
	So if we just look at the totality of everything, your personality, et cetera, et cetera, do you think you will overall be more attractive to all men at 33?
	Looks, personality, everything.
	You'll be more attractive at 33 than you are now at 23.
	Allowing you to incorporate everything.
	Allowing me to incorporate everything.
	If I'm still going down the same route that I am, like improving myself and growing myself, then yeah, I will be.
	But I mean, I don't need the approval of like, oh, the man is just going to be whoever my husband is.
	Right, but so the question is, like, to be attractive to other men, to men.
	Then yes, if I, like I said, if I continue going the path, which hopefully God will answer.
	What about 43 then?
	Yeah.
	Same thing.
	53.
	Continuing on.
	53.
	Yeah.
	63.
	Yes.
	If we're incorporating everything emotionally, yes, everything.
	You'll be more attractive.
	But you acknowledge that physical attractiveness is a component of it.
	I'm not asking just, but you would acknowledge that it's a component.
	Yeah, but you're like even saying like it's to all men, like it's just one person.
	I don't need.
	Yeah, maybe we're both going to be getting older together.
	Maybe our physical attraction for each other is going to be like, oh, you're getting like wrinkly and stuff and so on.
	Like, so be it.
	Okay, so in this case, the physical is probably going to drop, but hopefully the emotional rises up.
	In this scenario, let's assume you get divorced, but you've made all the progress that you claim you will make in 20 years' time.
	You get divorced at 43.
	Will you have a better time attracting men at 43 than you will now at 23?
	That one man you talk about is gone, and now you're back in the dating marketplace.
	I mean, if that guy was a former, hopefully, there would be one who's gonna want to be with me.
	That I have right.
	So I'm asking, I'm setting up a hypothetical here.
	Yeah.
	You get divorced.
	You did have the one guy, the one guy's gone.
	You're now back on Tinder and Hinge and dating apps, and you're being, there's multiple men who are going to be pursuing you.
	Do you think that you will be more attractive in totality at 43 to these men than you are now at 23?
	No, because, like you said, if we're total, total, whatever that word was, the physical probably will drop.
	And like I said, it depends on what you're doing.
	No, but I granted in totality.
	Yeah.
	But it's like it depends what the guy is looking for as well.
	I mean.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You're 26, better looking at 30.
	Will you be better looking at 36 than you are now at 26?
	I absolutely plan on being that.
	And I have it.
	I absolutely.
	I said I absolutely plan on being that.
	Yeah.
	Plan on being more physically.
	More physically.
	Yeah, 10 years of extra training, 10 years of extra help, 10 years of understanding your style better, everything.
	I think, I know I have a lot of friends that are almost 40 and they're baddies.
	Okay, hold on.
	So I'm already going to grant that women can absolutely be beautiful and attractive into their 30s and 40s and beyond.
	That's not the question.
	It's a comparative thing.
	Oh, okay.
	Between now and 36.
	Yeah, definitely.
	As I said, because of those reasons, I think that I'll have an extra 10 years of training, extra 10 years of maintenance and looking after myself.
	So from 26 till now, I mean, 26 till 36, I would make the assumption that I would look better than what I do now.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, and then what about 46?
	I think that it would start to decline a little bit the closer I got to 50.
	But you would peak.
	So you'd be more attractive, physically attractive at 46 than you are now at 26?
	No, I'd be more attractive at 36 and 26 and then more attractive at 26 and 46.
	Wait, hold on.
	Does that not make sense?
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Wait, you'll be surprised.
	I think so.
	I think that that's when you peak, yeah.
	You'll be more attractive at 36 than at 26.
	But will you be more attractive at 46 than at 36?
	Probably not, no.
	I think that you're like a woman, like generally, can really peak from that 32 to 40.
	Yeah.
	So when do women peak?
	What age?
	I just said 32 to 40, I think, is like a peak.
	So 36 is the peak physical attractiveness of you, what do you think is the peak physical attractiveness age of women, if you had to say?
	Between the 30s and 40s.
	Between 30s and 40s, what about 30s and 40s?
	Okay.
	Going to you, you're 29.
	Do you think you'll be better looking at 39 than you are now?
	Yes.
	Into the mic, please.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Will you be better looking at 49 than you are now?
	Probably not.
	No, I'll start declining, like she said.
	Okay, when do you think is the peak for physical beauty in women?
	30s.
	30s.
	Okay.
	And do you think you're more physically attractive now at 29 than you were at 19?
	In some ways, but no, no other ways at all.
	Because I didn't do certain things.
	What do you mean?
	Like, I just think that, like you said, like I never, I didn't work out in my when I was younger, so I was chubbier.
	When you were younger.
	So, things that I wanted to do.
	Okay, so you're better looking now at 29 than you were at 19.
	I just took care of myself more right now.
	I took care of myself now than I did when I was at 19.
	All right.
	Going to you, 28, better looking at 38 or better looking now?
	Better looking now.
	And were you better looking at 18 or better looking now?
	I would say I'm better looking now for sure.
	I had an awkward phase.
	I think women peak usually in their mid-20s.
	Like 23, 24, 25.
	I think usually that's the peak.
	All right.
	What about you?
	You're 27.
	Yeah.
	I definitely think I'd be more attractive now than in 10 years.
	So you're more attractive now at 27 than you are at 30.
	37.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Going back to you really quick, you said that if you get work done, that you'll be better looking.
	No, Like, just by process of time, I've been training for 10 years.
	imagine when I'm in the gym for an extra 10 years your physical fitness how you look aesthetically will be so much more better in 10 years than what it is now so that's why what about what about face You can't really work out your face.
	I think that that would then come down to how you look after yourself.
	Are you like drinking plenty of water?
	Are you doing skincare?
	Are you staying out of the sun?
	What are you doing to mitigate like wrinkles, all of that?
	So you could have another extra 10 years of looking after yourself.
	As kind of what you alluded to, I feel like women, well, people in general go through like awkward phases.
	I kind of feel like your 20s is an awkward phase.
	And then when you get into your 30s, you kind of, yeah, know your style.
	You've been probably working out.
	You know what to eat.
	And so that's kind of my theory behind why I think at 20, I mean, 36, I would be better than 26.
	So, so can I just briefly interject?
	I sent over, this is some new Andrew lore.
	The first ever dropped in a long time, and I'll drop it right here on the whatever podcast.
	So via Discord, I sent over a picture of me at 19 when I was a model.
	You may not know this, but me, Andrew Wilson, I was a model.
	I was a hair model.
	Not kidding.
	Hang on.
	Not kidding.
	I was a model.
	At 19 years old, I was a hair model.
	Some actual lore for you.
	Now, I'm going to have Brian pull this up so you can see how fucking delusional you are.
	Andrew Wilson at 19 years old versus Andrew Wilson at 40 years old.
	So that you can see the difference.
	Hey, some of us like that.
	Send it over via Discord, by the way.
	You got it?
	I think men look better when they're a little older.
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	I think I look better when they're older.
	I like older men.
	I have a feeling that you look better now.
	I just have a feeling.
	There's just something about my husband.
	This is my point.
	People have different tastes.
	I mean, it just is what it is.
	My theory, though, comes from personal friends that I have that are almost 40, and I've seen photos of them at my age, and I think they look better now.
	Not almost 40.
	And we're about to show the pic, and then you can just see for yourself.
	Okay, Nick.
	Because I got to tell you, you guys are living off in Dululu land.
	Yeah, but you drink and smoke.
	39 years old, you're going to be as good looking as you were at 22.
	That's insanity.
	Repeat it.
	I just said, but you drink and smoke.
	So wouldn't you assume that you're more aged?
	Do you think I always drink and smoke?
	Yeah.
	Or what?
	And by the way, do you think that men can't drink and smoke and still maintain their attractiveness level?
	Age comes for us all, sweetheart.
	All right, regardless of whether you think it's not going to come for you or it's coming.
	It's coming.
	And guess what?
	Oh, yeah, he looks way better now.
	The walk is undefeated.
	That's like amazing.
	That was so quick.
	That was so quick.
	I didn't get a phone.
	That's a great jawline.
	It is.
	It's a ripper jawline.
	I have a good hairline.
	I can see where you're going.
	Oh, handsome, Andrew.
	Handsome.
	But I'm not even kidding.
	I think you look.
	I like that.
	He was so great.
	He looked so great.
	Yeah, because I wasn't fucking 40.
	No, I know.
	We're saying, we're saying the opposite.
	We all think you look better now.
	Yeah, that whole male face.
	Giga Chad.
	All right, whatever.
	I just think males are more attracted to a younger looking female where females are attracted generally speaking, very generally, to an older looking man, not a baby face.
	Like you were gorgeous, but you had a baby face.
	Wait, so then how can you get a little bit of a girl?
	You look like my little brother.
	As time goes on.
	But you asked about us specifically.
	Do I think that from 26 to 36, by logic, you would make the assumption that if I have an extra 10 years of training and looking after myself, I would therefore look better than what I do now.
	Yeah, but let me ask you a question.
	Let me ask you a question.
	All else being equal, so assuming that, I mean, you're training now, right?
	Yeah.
	Aren't you?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so you'll, what are you gaining in 10 years?
	More muscle?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	From 10 years ago till now.
	Muscle is a primary attraction trigger in men?
	But it's not necessarily about that.
	If you want to get into the complexities of training, you can get more muscle.
	You can reduce fat.
	You can get leaner.
	If you want to get into powerlifting, you can put on weight.
	Like, it depends on what you think.
	So, in my assumption, if you're training and you're being fit and healthy for an extra 10 years, wouldn't your body by default look better?
	So let me ask you a question.
	So assuming you don't train at all, but you eat healthy and your body fat percentage doesn't change at all.
	Although for most people, as they age, they tend to gain weight.
	But I'll disregard that and I'll just grant that your body fat percentage stays the same, but your actual word for it, composition, your body composition, no changes.
	From 30 to 40, you're saying that there's no difference, no negative difference between those years.
	Well, I never said that.
	What I said is from 26 to 36, I think I'd look better, but from 26 to 46, I think there would be a decline.
	So I agreed with you.
	Right, but so you're saying that currently, so looking better, looking better, looking better, 36, looking worse, looking worse, looking worse, essentially.
	Well, essentially, yeah, because then women start to go through menopause and all of that.
	So then you totally change your body and then you do start to age.
	So people, there's no like physical signs of aging in one's face in 10-year period.
	Yeah, of course there is.
	But you asked me to do that.
	How important is face when it comes to physical attractiveness?
	Yeah, pretty important.
	Pretty important.
	So you're not going to have any changes to your face.
	You can hit the gym for your face.
	Don't you have gym goals?
	Pardon?
	Don't you have gym goals?
	Yeah.
	So like, if you have a gym goal now, how is it going to get better after 10 years?
	Well, if you have a look at.
	You're going to meet your goal before 10 years.
	Well, the beauty in the gym is it's ever it's always changing.
	So just say when I started at the gym, my goal was to put on weight and then I got into bodybuilding and I had a bodybuilding goal.
	Then I got into powerlifting and then I had powerlifting goals and now I'm out of powerlifting and I have different goals now.
	So it's a forever evolution.
	So you actually never reach a final destination in the gym.
	Gross sounds terrible.
	Working out is terrible.
	Well, no, just having that constantly moving goalpost.
	Do you work out?
	What do you do for working out?
	I go to the gym.
	But do you have goals there?
	My goal is to lose weight.
	How do you maintain that?
	How do you hit that goal?
	Have you hit that goal?
	No.
	I have not hit my goal.
	So how is that?
	So my goal is a desired weight frame that I want to get to.
	All I'm saying, like, if that works for her, that's great.
	But I hate the moving goalposts.
	I like to have a goal.
	What is your goal?
	Like a specific number or like a look.
	So when you get there, what's going to happen?
	Hopefully, I will maintain that weight.
	You got it.
	It's not just maintaining.
	You got to like, your body's always going to be changing that.
	There's always going to be a goal.
	It's just not.
	Yeah, but just hit it and then.
	But my body is changing, therefore, I have to change to keep my goal where it is.
	Yeah, that's what we're saying.
	That the goal is always, there's always going to be.
	But the goal is still the same place.
	I'm just shooting the ball at a different angle.
	Okay.
	You guys, okay.
	So I guess, yes, you could be morbidly obese at 26 and in the worst shape of your life, and then you die it, and then you would have a more physically attractive body by the time you're 36.
	But again, all else being equal, assuming that you were already in like fairly peak physical shape at 26, do you still think if you're also in peak physical shape at 36 that you're going to be more physically attractive?
	Great question.
	Total transparency, I hope so.
	But I don't know.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	Depends on how I look after myself in the next 10 years, if you're asking about me specifically.
	Peak physical shape.
	I'm granting that you're in peak physical shape now.
	Yeah.
	And then in 10 years' time, you're also in peak physical shape in terms of your fitness, whatever, physique.
	But that's not going to undo the fact that there's changes to your skin that occur.
	There's changes to your face, wrinkling, etc.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That are just unstoppable.
	They are inevitable and they're undeniable.
	Yeah, I never denied that.
	I don't care how much, in fact, I don't care how good you, the cream you use or what you do, or the minimizing of sun exposure over a 10-year period of time, there are going to be such changes to your face that, regardless of all the terrible treatment you did to your skin at 26, it's not going to be, I don't think it can be substantially reversed.
	It's just going to progressively get worse.
	Oxidation.
	And if facial attractiveness is a huge part of physical attractiveness, then how can it possibly be that you would end up better looking at 36 than at 26?
	Hmm.
	That's a.
	Well, do you want like a hypothetical or do you want like because hypothetically, I'm again, I'm taking personal anecdotes from close personal friends that are in that age bracket.
	And I think about what their faces look like at 26.
	And sometimes you still have a little bit of chub or you have a baby face.
	And then now as they've matured as women, they've got these great jawline structures, cheekbones, and stuff because they've matured more.
	And so it depends, I guess, what you like.
	I think that that's great.
	I love looking at women.
	I actually think softer faces in women are more attractive.
	See?
	So it's up to people.
	Men find softer faces more attractive.
	See, I love a jawline and I love shape.
	But in addition to, fine, if I even grant that men find super sharp, oh, you find you find that more attractive in men or in women?
	Oh, in both.
	Like, think about like a young Johnny Depp with like he's a ripper jawline.
	I think it's great.
	And so I love when I see like Johnny Depp.
	He's older now.
	He's not as physically attractive now.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I don't understand why this is such a complex question for you.
	Okay, so okay, I'll just find even for men that are inclined to find super sharp features attractive in women, the I don't know what the term is.
	You said the cheekbones.
	Cheekbones and jawlines, yeah.
	Okay, whatever.
	I don't.
	I don't like that, but fine.
	If they're into that, whatever.
	What about wrinkles?
	What about aging?
	What about eye bags?
	I don't know.
	Like, I don't.
	I think at 36, like, I feel like you're painting a picture of, like, at 36, you look like decrepit and old.
	Like, again, I'm just thinking of...
	That's not what I'm saying, but you start getting some of those things.
	But I'm not arguing that you don't.
	You said it were going to start declining, right?
	That's what you said?
	That's what I'm so perplexed about.
	You asked me specifically from 26 to 36.
	Do I think that would be good?
	Let me ask you this.
	If God made you perfect, how come you have a nose job?
	I don't have a nose job, but thank you.
	I have my lips done, but that's it.
	Yeah.
	You don't have a nose job?
	No, I don't have a nose job.
	Really?
	I have fake lips, but that's it.
	Oh, well, if you got me perfect, why do you have fake lips?
	I used to get my lips done from about 18 until 2022.
	And then that was the last time I got my lips done before I was.
	So you really thought there was some imperfection that needed to be healed or taken?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And that was before I was in faith.
	But yeah, I used to love getting my lips done because I was insecure about them.
	Do you know let them get done anymore ever again?
	No, I haven't had my lips done since, yeah, 2022 in July.
	So there will be no more cosmetic surgery for you ever.
	No, the only thing I would love to get done is probably get this scar on my head removed, but at some point.
	That's it?
	There's never going to be anything else?
	No, I don't think so.
	No?
	So right now, objectively, without any sort of cosmetic surgery whatsoever, without any sort of lip filler, butt lift, anything else, you objectively believe at 39, and you're going to be as attractive as you are right this second.
	Ignore me.
	No, no, no, no, sorry.
	Yeah, that's a great question, to be honest with you.
	I didn't think about it that way.
	I was more focusing on physical appearance and thinking about in 10 years what my body would look like.
	But when you put that argument there of what your face will look like, I have to agree with you, but that's not the measure I was kind of using.
	Isn't your physical attractiveness also based on your face?
	Yeah, so I'm totally agreeing with you guys.
	I'm just like if somebody went and splashed acid in your face, you would be less physically attractive than you are right now, probably, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So if somebody's asking about your physical attractiveness, aren't they taking the totality of your physical appearance?
	This would include your weight, your height, your facial features, all of that, and it would be combining them into this.
	I don't know if we could give it something like, let's say, a number, for instance, where we said if we took all of those physical features and we were to put it between one and ten, you could come up with blank at 39.
	If you had one to ten to choose from, right now you're seven.
	What are you at 39?
	Why do I feel like I'm getting boxed in with like the uncomfortability of rating people?
	Because you are getting boxed in good.
	Your logic is dumb.
	You deserve to get boxed in.
	Now answer the question.
	I didn't think.
	Anyways, you don't think what?
	Answer the question.
	If I said that I'm an eight right now at 26, and then if we're looking at 36, and if we're going now by the alternative factors of aging, I guess you could make the analysis that you would probably be a six by that point.
	What do you think you would be then by that analysis?
	Mate, I'd hope not, but you never know.
	No, probably.
	What do you think objectively?
	You think at 39 years old, absent any sort of cosmetic surgery whatsoever, no lip fillers, no nose job, no whatever it is, none of that.
	If you want to be stupid nuances, Work out every single day.
	You try to keep yourself in the best shape you possibly can.
	At 39 years old, does the number go down or does it go up?
	Well, as I said, if you want to be super nuanced, you could probably have an increase in your body and a decrease in your face, which would then probably even it out.
	If you're an eight now, when you're saying hypothetically, you'd be a six, you'd probably just land at a seven.
	Is that where you think you're going to be?
	I'd hope so.
	Is that where you think you're going to be, not what you hope?
	I'd make the assumptions.
	I hope I'm going to be a millionaire tomorrow.
	That's great that I hope that, but I don't think that that's probably going to be true.
	So, whether you hope that or not, I'm asking you, do you think that?
	Yeah, why not?
	Yeah.
	So, you think you'll be an eight at 39?
	No, I said a seven.
	A seven.
	And you think you're a what right now?
	I said an eight.
	An eight.
	So you're going to go down one point at 39?
	Mate, let's go.
	What about a 42?
	That's only a couple of years away from 39.
	Well, we said 36, not 39.
	Okay, 36.
	So 42.
	How do I know?
	That's 42.
	For some reason, that big 4-0 for women, for some reason, they think when they hit 40, man, it's done.
	Right?
	It's done.
	I know.
	I'm telling you, 39 and a half years old.
	They're gorgeous.
	But the second they hit that 4-0, it's over.
	I know what I'm getting myself into by saying this, and I totally understand.
	But the only people that I know that are in their 40s are literally the Kardashians.
	And I'm like, I know they have so much work done, but they don't have to be a lot of fun.
	Oh, I'm in my 40s.
	They're not ugly.
	I'm literally 40.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm literally 40.
	Showed you a picture of me at 19 years old.
	The standard for men at their 40s, right?
	I'm probably one of the better-looking ones out there, and I'm a four.
	Why do you think that age for men when they have testosterone, for instance, which is the fountain of youth, and women have estrogen, which is the fountain of age?
	Literally, why would you ever think for a second that even though men, if they keep their testosterone high, which again, like I said, fountain of youth, why do you think that you would appear younger or better looking at that age than right now?
	The underscore patriarchy donated $199.99 to the former pimp.
	If you would look the same in 10 or 20 years, did you recruit 40-year-olds to join your stable?
	We actually did have some people at the agency that were not 40, but we had people that were in their mid to late 30s, definitely.
	But as we all know, the highest paid people and the most looked up porn is teen, barely legal and fresh teens.
	So I think that's just a basic, obvious thing that we know for quotation.
	Wait, that's really weird.
	Why do you think that men would be viewing porn of really young women?
	I think that there's this weird complexity about innocence, to be honest with you.
	I think that it comes down to there's a thing that...
	Wait, they're doing porn.
	They're not innocent.
	Hold on.
	They're doing porn.
	They're literally not innocent at all.
	So coming from someone that, well, this is coming.
	It's just an innocent girl who's getting fucked by three of those guys over there, Brian.
	Come on.
	What's wrong?
	Well, I don't know.
	I disagree with that because as I literally saw conversations with subscribers and saw this phenomenon, and what happens, it's when they're dressed in the school dresses, they're this, they're that.
	What is the underlying theme here?
	It's the fact that there's this weird girl next door phenomenon about the innocence of these girls, but there's this weird fantasy that's tied to it.
	And that's not me making things up.
	That's me literally seeing things.
	going on is what happens is that these are 25 year old women who dress this way so that they appear younger so that they look more attractive to men because men value younger women because they're hotter isn't that what's actually going on i don't know as i said my personal experience from literally working at an agency and seeing these conversations is i disagree Well, you know, I don't think you do.
	So for instance, if the LARP is, I'm 25 years old, but I'm dressing like I'm a schoolgirl.
	What you're doing is you're giving the presentation that you're younger than 25 years old, right?
	But if you zoom out on that, so you're not going to be able to do men are into that fantasy.
	Isn't that showing that men are into youth?
	They want young women, right?
	Yeah, but why?
	Because they want to fuck them.
	That's why.
	They want to have sex with them because that's what makes them feel like they're not going to be able to do that.
	But then what's the differentiation?
	What's the differentiation?
	So here, I'll explain it to you.
	Young, fertile women can have lots and lots of babies.
	So from a biological standpoint, why is it that a man would want to have sex?
	Why would a man, for instance, think young women beautiful?
	They think that because from an evolutionary standpoint, for instance, you would assume that the younger women are going to have far more babies than older women.
	So younger women look more beautiful to man because then man wants to have sex with younger women, thus make more babies, right?
	Look, to be honest with you, I understand that perspective.
	I think it's actually quite simplistic.
	I think that it's so complex.
	The subscriber, the subscriber and OnlyFans relationship is way more, I personally think, complicated than that.
	I don't think it's as simple as a guy looks at a young girl and thinks I'm going to have babies with her.
	I think that when there's such an original attractive younger women, I'm telling you why I think that.
	I just told you my theory from my personal experience is that there's an infatuation with innocence.
	And that's why.
	Not an infatuation with can have babies.
	So why do you think attractiveness exists?
	But why would men watch porn?
	Here, I'll demonstrate this.
	Why do you think I'm attracted to Lady X even exists to begin with?
	Why do men and women need to be attracted to each other?
	Why do they need to want to have sex with each other?
	Why?
	If you're like, I understand the procreation.
	I said, I understand.
	I said I understand the procreation aspect of it, but we're not talking about that.
	You're taking it out of control.
	I'm not talking about that.
	So I'm asking you, why do you think men and women need to be attracted to each other?
	Why is that necessary?
	I understand, but what we're talking about here is phenomenon.
	No, answer the question.
	Don't say I understand.
	Answer the question.
	Because of procreation.
	But you are nuancing this.
	Procreation.
	Yes.
	But what we're talking about here in this very specific, so don't take it out of context.
	This very specific topic is the fact that men are not watching porn because they think that they're going to impregnate a woman.
	They're watching porn for other reasons.
	Yeah, because they're attracted to the women there, so they're jerking off to them.
	And if you're attracted to a woman, the attractiveness exists for the singular purpose.
	The only reason you're attracted to woman and woman's attracted to man is because without that attractiveness, there's no baby.
	That's why the attractiveness exists to begin with.
	Therefore, if you were to look at it from a perspective of what men find attractive, why wouldn't men then go for younger women?
	Why wouldn't they think that was more attractive?
	Yeah, look to opposing opinions.
	And I totally disagree with you from my personal experience.
	And you think A, I think B. Do you?
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	Do you think more men are jerking off to 80-year-old porn or they're jerking off more to a barely legal teen and 20-25-year-old porn?
	Well, I think that it's ridiculous to try and make such an exaggeration.
	Answer the question.
	That's my answer.
	I think that saying 80-year-old, making a comparison with an 80-year-old in a 19 now.
	Now, answer the question.
	Do you think more men are jerking off to 80-year-old women, 70-year-old women, 60-year-old women, 50-year-old women, 40-year-old women, or 20-year-old women?
	Well, there is fantasies of that, but no, I think that to make this extreme comparison of 80-year-olds and 19-year-olds.
	Answer the question.
	That's my answer.
	Okay, so I'll ask again.
	I'm going to ask until you answer it.
	I don't care about that.
	Yeah, because I understand you're trying to box me into saying the younger so that you can try to make your point, but your example is ridiculous.
	Andrew, are you six feet tall and I say margarine hat?
	Is that an answer to the question?
	Is it an answer to the question if you ask me if I'm six feet tall and I say margarine hat?
	Is that an answer to your question?
	No.
	No.
	Now, I'm going to ask the question again.
	Are more men out there jerking off to 20-year-old women or are they jerking off more to 40, 30, 50, 60, and 70-year-old women?
	Of course, the answer is no.
	What?
	I said, of course the answer is younger.
	Why?
	Your theory is because of procreation.
	My theory is because of innocence.
	Well, well, wait a second.
	Women in the 30s, right, can still be innocent, can't they?
	Again, if you want to extrapolate on that, why is it the younger the better, though?
	And from my theory.
	They are attracted to make the baby.
	Or they wouldn't have the attraction to begin with, right?
	You would not have attraction to woman if woman couldn't make baby.
	That wouldn't make any sense.
	Why would attractiveness even exist external to need to make baby?
	Why would that even exist?
	Look, as I said, I think you're simplifying a really complex problem.
	You think I'm simplifying a really complex problem.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I think that you are over-complexifying a really simple problem.
	Does that sound like a good argument to you?
	Potentially.
	As I said, that's my experience.
	Okay.
	So potentially it sounds like a good argument to you that you say, well, that's an overly simplistic analysis.
	And I say, well, that's an overly complex analysis.
	That's not an argument.
	Tell me why it would be that you are attractiveness only exists, period, for the purpose of procreation.
	And yet, when men are jerking off to the type of pornography in the age group where you are the most fertile, you can't make the link that these two things are connected.
	I'm not denying that the link is there.
	I'm saying in the specific context of what we're talking about and we're talking about the consumption of pornography, I think that the reason for attractiveness is different than a baseline of procreation.
	Well, I don't think that attractiveness even exists absent the baseline of procreation.
	And I think that if you're looking at 20, 22, 23, 24, 25-year-old women who are in their most fertile years, of course, are the most attractive.
	Why wouldn't they be?
	Those are the women who are going to be able to give you the most attractive.
	But we were talking about, but we weren't talking about 20, 22, 23.
	We were specifically saying teen, barely legal, and fresh teens.
	So there's a differentiation here.
	Also, only TOS, only for the purpose of TOS am I not able to dive into this.
	But of course, at 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, yes, of course, those are very fertile women.
	Why wouldn't men want that?
	When you say innocence, when you say they're into it because of innocent, innocence meaning what?
	I'm a virgin 18-year-old, meaning I'm the most likely to bear your genetic offspring, correct?
	Look, yeah, I guess you could see it from that perspective.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	Good talk.
	Have yourself, guys.
	Good talk.
	So, I mean, I guess better looking at 36 versus now at 26.
	Yep, let's just go with that.
	Okay.
	Well, I mean, aging, you know about the whole aging thing?
	Like, people are familiar with that phenomenon.
	Well, yeah, but it changes like your physical appearance.
	So, wait, hold on.
	Before I get to that, you said better looking in 10 years, or did you walk back?
	What did I say?
	I said, oh, in 10 years.
	Yeah, better looking in 10 years?
	Yes.
	Better looking in 10 years, yes.
	Okay.
	I'm curious, since you guys rated yourselves 10s, how could you possibly be 10s now if you're going to be better looking in 10 years' time?
	Well, when I, oh, sorry.
	When I talked about, when we've talked about the totality of it, I said a 10, and then I retracted and said a seven.
	So it's not seven.
	Now we're back to going back up.
	We're back to looks.
	And you said that I said from other people's perspectives, I'm probably seen as a seven or lower.
	And so in 10 years, like we talked about, there's a, there's a, um, going to you, you said you were 10, but you said you'd also be better looking in 10 years time.
	So how can you be a 10 now if you will be better looking in 10 years' time?
	I'm going to take care of myself.
	Everything she said, I second that.
	Right, but if you're going to be better looking in 10 years' time, how can you be a 10 now?
	We'll be at 10.5.
	Yeah, that doesn't exist.
	So do you want to engage in good faith and actually answer the question?
	Okay, well, we're going to move off a little bit from this rating thing, but I kind of will actually give you reasons for why we bring this up and why we offer pushback.
	So the reality is, in the dating marketplace, is that a lot more women are delusional about their self-assessment in the dating marketplace than men are.
	Because we as men, if I step to a girl, and this can be just off of looks, if I step to a girl and absent like insane levels of charisma or status or money or something else, insane levels of something else.
	Oh, I like guys with good personalities.
	You have to be so charismatic and funny in order to pull that off.
	In any case, if I'm a guy who's a seven and I step to a woman who's a 10, I don't get anything from her.
	I don't get a date.
	I don't get, I certainly don't get casual sex.
	So we as men face rejection immediately.
	We face it on the front end.
	Men face rejection immediately.
	Whereas women, if you're like an average girl and you kind of make yourself sexually available to a guy who's outside of your league, he'll fuck you.
	He'll have sex with you.
	He will never, very good chance he'll never give you commitment.
	He probably won't treat you that well or treat you how you feel like you deserve to be treated.
	This is where we hear these complaints about fuckboys from women.
	Frankly, you're fucking men out of your league.
	So if you're chasing after these men who are more attractive than you, who are eights, nines, tens, and you're a five, six, seven, you can sleep with men who are more attractive than you.
	One, you're going to get jaded.
	Two, you might actually become delusional and think, well, because I can sleep with that guy, that's the guy.
	That's my league.
	I'm an average girl, but I can go get me an NFL player.
	You'll think you can get that guy or whatever.
	He's not an NFL player.
	Let's remove status from it.
	He's just a really good-looking guy.
	As women, you have sexual access to men so long as you make yourself sexually available to them.
	You have access to those men who are out of your league.
	So, what ends up happening because you have sexual access to them, you think that the men who are actually in your league, who will commit to you, who will give you commitment, who will give you a ring, you think you're settling for them.
	So, you either won't give them a chance, or if you do give them a chance, you'll secretly still be pining for those really attractive men who you can have sex with, but who will never ever commit to you.
	And so, what ends up happening, if you do end up with one of these men who you deem as out of your league, who's like below your league, but is actually your league, but you think is out of your league, but it's actually your league, you're going to resent him.
	You're going to be secretly pining for that really hot dude for the course of the relationship.
	It's going to create turmoil in a relationship because you feel like you're settling for him.
	You're going to probably mistreat him in ways that you wouldn't treat these guys who you have sexual access to, but you'll never get commitment from.
	But, really, probably the most ultimate thing is you'll just disregard the men who are actually prepared to give you commitment, who are in your league.
	But because you're able to get sexual access from these men, you just think you're a 10 because you can fuck a guy who's a 10, but you're not a 10.
	The men who are in your league are the men who give you commitment and relationship and a ring, not the men who you're able to fuck.
	That's not, you can fuck a hot dude, maybe you don't get commitment from him.
	That's your league.
	As men, our league is the women we can sleep with.
	That's our league.
	If we can, because here's why: if I can sleep with a girl, there's a very high probability I can get her in a relationship.
	Very high probability.
	But for you, is it a given if you sleep with a guy that you can definitively get him in the relationship?
	It's not so clear, ladies.
	This is why you don't, we don't have sex with everybody and just wait till our husband.
	We'll eliminate all the F-boys.
	The only one I'm already did, though.
	And look where he got me.
	Thinking you're a 10?
	Oh, I'm talking about that.
	That is neither here or there because it's not in the same argument.
	Right, but because you can, without, no matter what you think, it's like if you're not with your argument, you're saying if I'm thinking that these guys that are way out of my league, I have a chance with them.
	Well, I'll never, I'll never mess with them because I'm never going to have sex with them.
	So, I'm never going to be caught up in that whole thing.
	Well, I mean, you could even do this within the framework of not having sex.
	You could just chase men who are outside of your league and curve and reject men who are actually in your league.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, no chasing either.
	No chasing.
	Yeah.
	You will chase, though, if he's attractive enough.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	I mean, it's quiet, but I mean.
	I mean, shouldn't you want to chase a guy?
	No.
	Why would you want to chase a guy?
	Pursue a guy like in the symbiote, like at the same energy as him, yeah, but not go chase if he's not reciprocating.
	He's your perfect guy.
	He's the perfect Christian.
	He has all these standards that you really like.
	If you're not reciprocating, if he's not reciprocating, why would I go after him?
	Yeah, but how does he know that you actually want him?
	I want a man that would pursue me and I would give that signal.
	We already talked about this.
	Well, I mean, I'll just ask the table, like, how confident do you feel that if you sleep with a man, how confident are you that you can with near certainty get him into a relationship in all instances?
	100%.
	I'm not.
	100% for me.
	It's very rare.
	That's why.
	That's a question for the panel if you guys want to answer it.
	Women choose when you have sex, men choose when you're in a relationship.
	Yeah, some people, you know, are different.
	That's all.
	Well, why is it then, if, I mean, if what I'm saying is so crazy and out there, it seems like women complain more about having slept with a man, but never ending up in a commitment with him.
	Women just complain more in general.
	That's the thing.
	They'll complain more.
	Sure.
	But it's, I mean, I hear men complaining about not even getting to get to that point, not even being able to get laid.
	That's a thing.
	But I don't really hear this complaint more from men.
	Like, I hear this complaint of fuck boys from women.
	Yeah.
	I don't really hear the reverse of like these men, oh, I can't believe I slept with her.
	She wasn't willing to commit to me.
	Yeah, no, I think that has to do with like the culture of young women now, the college-age women, and how loose they are.
	It's just true.
	I think that's become way more common that women just sleep around and they party and they hook up with whatever hot guy will take them.
	And yeah, they complain.
	I've seen it and I witnessed it myself.
	So I know what you're saying.
	I completely agree.
	But I think it's the society, the culture, the feminist sexual empowerment movement that's turned into this.
	And yeah, men will hook up with the chick because he wants to, and it doesn't mean he wants to be with her.
	Right.
	So this is the final component of my argument here about when it comes to the rating thing, why it's important to have a reasonable and accurate self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness.
	For women to have casual sex with a man, the man typically, she's going to actually seek out a really attractive guy to do that with.
	Whereas men will have casual sex with women that just based on their looks alone, we would never be in a relationship with her just based on her looks.
	So that's where people will get into trouble.
	So a guy will sleep with a girl, but based on her looks, will never be in a relationship with her, but he'll sleep with her.
	That's rarely the case for women.
	For a woman, just to have a casual encounter with a guy, the guy has to be at least attractive enough for you to be in a relationship with him.
	But preferably, you're going to want the guy who's like really, really hot and attractive if you are inclined to have that casual sexual encounter.
	Whereas men are far less discerning with casual sex sex, excuse me, sexual encounters.
	They'll go down for a casual sexual encounter.
	Of course.
	They'll go to the alley.
	They'll date a girl who's unattractive.
	They'll get with a girl who's unattractive because they want pussy.
	You know, I think what you're doing is you're just accurately pointing out the differences between men and women, the way they deal with sex and relationships in society.
	And I guess it's good just to have this conversation and point it out so people can become more self-aware because people don't know.
	But there's nothing to disagree with about what you're saying or argue because it's true.
	But it sets up women for eventual and inevitable disappointment.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	They think, I can, wait, I can hook up with that guy.
	I feel really bad because I'm not getting commitment from him.
	Yeah.
	Because she thinks, I was able to have sex with him.
	We must be equivalents.
	Why does he want to commit to me?
	What's wrong with me?
	You're outside of your league.
	Yeah.
	You're outside of your league as a woman.
	Being a slut has become very.
	Can I say that word?
	Sure.
	Whatever.
	Oh, you have a sweatshirt that says it so.
	Yep.
	Being a slut has become very normalized and, you know, you're actually cooler and you're more in with the young women if you're loose.
	And, yeah, with that comes more disappointment.
	So you're right.
	I mean, can't disagree with you.
	And I think it's good to bring it up and talk about it because I think so many women have become so delusional about reality.
	And I don't mean that to be mean, to sound like, oh, I think I'm smarter or better.
	I just think that's the reality.
	And if you don't change your path, you're going to screw yourself.
	And this is the, you know, people always say, oh, everyone's always been sexual and degenerate.
	It's just now it's more open in the air, but it's always been the same.
	It's not always been the same.
	Of course, people have always been freaks behind closed doors, but now it's celebrated.
	You know, there didn't used to be a gender.
	I know different cultures have different things.
	Slut walk is like almost nothing, but now like pride parades, it's like complete degeneracy and absolutely nothing to do with what they say.
	It has to do with.
	Yeah, it's gotten worse.
	So women have gotten worse and they're getting lost in the plot and they're upset.
	And yeah, it's just messed up.
	I'm going to move on, but that was based.
	We'll come back to that.
	That was based donated $200.
	Elephant in the room.
	Since Biden is out, if Kamala, if you know you voting for her, and if neither Trump or her who would you like the Democratic nominee to be?
	I would never vote for a woman president.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay.
	Nothing.
	All right.
	If it's so, okay, Biden's out.
	If Kamala's going to be the pick, are you going to vote for Kamala or Trump?
	You're rushing.
	You want me to miss?
	I guess, yeah.
	Hypothetically, who would you vote for?
	Who would you pick if you could?
	Trump, all the way.
	Trump, 100%.
	I know nothing about American politics.
	Trump.
	Trump, 100%.
	Trump.
	Trump.
	Yay.
	I don't know if I'm educated enough right now, but I think Trump.
	Why are you laughing?
	Are you studying this?
	Did they actually put Kamala up?
	Because I don't think they're going to pick Kamala.
	Is Kamala a 10?
	I think Biden.
	Her laugh and everything.
	Is she a 10?
	Kamala, Kamala.
	Is she a 10 Original?
	Is she officially now running against Trump?
	I don't know.
	I think naturally she'd be having.
	I heard rumors that they were going to push for Michelle Obama.
	You choose.
	Who would you choose?
	No women.
	No women president.
	Between Trump and Kamala Trump.
	Wait, Andrew, do you think that Trump only got shot or did he set it up?
	Oh, my.
	He got shot for real.
	Okay.
	That wasn't.
	Why would he purposely want to?
	No, I'm on that, but people are saying that.
	People are saying that.
	I was on another podcast and I asked them, and this guy said it was a good idea.
	Some people were saying it, so it must be true.
	Like Trump said about it.
	Yeah, I don't think.
	So just to be clear, Trump.
	I do not believe that, by the way.
	He instructed the guy to do an ear shot.
	They're saying it was a fake shot.
	I'm not saying that.
	Well, I want to explain to you why this is happening.
	The reason that this narrative is coming out like this from Democrats is because they're fucking lunatics.
	And they want to do everything they can to pretend that this was something other than it was.
	And here's what it was.
	It was a direct assassination attempt by Democrat lunatics who empowered their base to try to do this to the rightful, in my opinion, President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
	And may he get back in office again and live forever as the God-King Overlord.
	May he live forever as the God-King Overlord.
	There we go.
	We have the irate Seagoer, Rip Ziz, looking at the background.
	Rip Ziz.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Let's go to Twitch, guys.
	Go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Jobs a prime sub.
	Irate Seagoer.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate your donation.
	Thank you, bro.
	R.I.P. Ziz.
	We're all going to make it, bro.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Jobs of all the jobs of prime sub.
	Also, if you have a prime sub, just check if you have a prime boys.
	I think it's bugged.
	Help.
	Hope.
	It's been like how long?
	It's been a while since we've had a Prime Boys.
	It's been like an hour of boys.
	Jobs of Prime Sub if you have one.
	Thank you, guys.
	Okay.
	So let me get into more of my pre-show notes here.
	Let's try to get through everything.
	We had, I think we got everything from Michaela Carly.
	We got to get to Carly.
	Carly.
	So you said you met your husband at one of your roller derby games in 2017.
	Yo, AB Check, thanks for the gift of 20.
	Can you guys be quiet back there, please?
	All right, so you said you met your husband at one of your roller derby games in 2017.
	About a week of texting back and forth, we met up in person for our first date.
	We watched a movie and then went back to his place where I spent two hours teaching him how to knit.
	And then you followed him home and you knew he was the one.
	Well, I followed at home and then I taught him how to knit.
	You taught him how to what?
	Knit.
	How to knit.
	How to knit.
	Did you hear a slur, Andrew?
	That's really inappropriate.
	I was raised Mormon.
	Of course I know how to knit.
	Come on.
	Haha.
	Well, I mean, you don't have to be raised Mormon to know how to knit.
	I'm just saying.
	You don't gotta be Mormon to know how to knit.
	Should I play an A to a D on the guitar while you sing?
	Why are you saying it, Brian?
	Let's do it.
	Okay.
	Let's do it.
	So you said you followed him home.
	You just knew he was the one.
	We ended up sleeping together on the first date.
	And you stayed the night and just never left.
	And you moved in permanently two weeks later.
	And in 2019, you bought a house together and you got married in 2020.
	Yep.
	This is these girls who say you can't hook up with a guy on the first date.
	She's married to the guy.
	Yeah.
	It happens all the time.
	This girl's, oh, let's wait seven dates.
	Are you happily married?
	Yes, I am.
	Very.
	Happily married.
	Happily married.
	Happily.
	Happily.
	By the way, congratulations and many years to you.
	I hope your marriage goes forever and ever and ever into infinity.
	I'm sure it will.
	Man.
	You know what?
	I wonder, like a girl.
	So the guy wanted to hook up, and the girl didn't.
	And she actually, I'm thinking, like, there's probably girls out there because she didn't hook up with the guy, she lost out on her husband.
	That was her husband, though.
	So that's.
	No, I'm saying it worked out.
	Yeah, it worked out.
	But there's like girls who are like, hmm, let me play this trick and then wait to have sex.
	And then the guy just lost interest.
	And you lost your husband.
	Lost a great guy because you didn't smash.
	What if he was like out of her league and she thought that he was just like, I feel like this is a double-edged sword, though, because couldn't you just say, like, oh, well, there's those chase Christian dudes.
	And if they had only plowed that OnlyFans chick, they would have ended up with a great wife.
	Isn't that like kind of the rebuttal to that?
	No, I reject your rebuttal.
	Good job, Andrew.
	Good job.
	I don't know if it perfectly maps on one-to-one.
	I don't know if it perfectly maps on.
	I don't know if it perfectly maps on one-to-one, but yeah, it's a fair point.
	It's a fair point to raise, Andrew.
	Fair point to raise, certainly.
	Anyways, so he did not like that.
	I mean, I think my dad was out of my league.
	Oh, well.
	I was the aggressor.
	I asked him if I could kiss him, and then I asked him if he wanted to have sex, and then I just never left.
	Oh, did you get the set before you touch him?
	I did.
	Did you say the words?
	Get the set.
	No.
	I'm joking.
	I'm joking.
	I mean.
	I want to go home.
	I asked him, hey, can I kiss you?
	And then I did.
	I'm like, hey, you want to have sex?
	And he's like, sure.
	And he's like, can I turn the lights off?
	And I was like, hell no, you can't.
	Damn, that's crazy.
	Because I want to see all that you got.
	Can I turn the lights off?
	That's crazy.
	The first date.
	Hey, can I just not see you?
	Wait, I'll do that.
	Wait.
	So you wanted the lights off and he wanted the lights off?
	No, I wanted the lights on.
	He wanted the lights off.
	She said, she said, can I have sex with you?
	He said, yeah, let's shut the lights off.
	That's not nice.
	I don't know.
	Maybe he was just bashful.
	Okay.
	I think I was the third person he ever slept with.
	So I had a little bit more experience than he did.
	When you say a little bit more experience.
	His body count is at four.
	Mine is at six.
	Huh, okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Equally yoked.
	Yeah.
	He's seven years older than I am.
	Yeah, what?
	Whatever.
	Okay.
	But it can happen.
	Look, ladies, you can sleep with a guy on the first date, and it could be like long-term boyfriend, marriage.
	Yeah, you just got to count it.
	Don't count it out.
	Don't count it.
	Yeah, dude.
	And guys, you can sleep with a skank on the first stage.
	She can end up being a quality wife, right?
	Well, hold on.
	Because like, both.
	So you're introducing this external variable of, and she's also a fucking porn star.
	Like, in this.
	No, she's not a porn star.
	She's just, you know, just a woman.
	Just an everyday porn.
	She did it for free.
	She just slept with like 30 guys.
	No problem.
	You only have a two body count.
	You could be passing off on the greatest wife ever, right, Brian?
	Just a college-age slut, that's usual.
	I reject.
	I just reject it outright.
	I unequivocally reject this argument.
	The premises are false.
	It is rejected.
	It is not sound.
	We need a SmackDown for Brian right now.
	Well, I think in the scenario where, so there's, I don't think there's necessary, I mean, it depends on your worldview, but where two people consent to sleep together relatively early on in the relationship, they're both, it takes two to tango, they're both there.
	Whereas men have a, when it comes to like, well, I'm not sure it maps on, like, okay, she's, she, the woman has a promiscuous past, but she could be a good wife or what?
	What is the argument?
	She's born again.
	Oh, well, here.
	I'm glad that you asked.
	I'll reiterate the argument and I'll frame it correctly.
	And I'll even make sure to steal me in your position.
	Brian's position here, right?
	I have to do it.
	Brian's position.
	Men out there, it could possibly be that, or I'm sorry, women out there, it could possibly be that you're passing up on Mr. Wright because you refuse to have sex with him because you were holding out for Mr. Ryder, right?
	Okay, well, that's fair.
	But wouldn't it equally be true then that men could potentially be passing up on Mrs. Wright, right?
	Because she has a promiscuous past and he refuses to sleep with her based on that.
	Well, I think there's a differential here, and the differential would be is that hold on, let me hold on one sec, hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I got this, Andrew.
	Hold on, hold on, there's an argument here.
	So, okay, so yes, conceivably, even despite a woman's promiscuous past, she could still be a wonderful person, but a wonderful wife.
	Yes, and a wonderful wife, and you could otherwise have a happy relationship.
	But if the disqualifier, just by virtue of her having slept with that many people, despite how wonderful or attractive she is, if that is a disqualifier for him, she may very well still be a good partner and a good wife, but she's disqualified regardless of her ability to be a good partner because of this criteria.
	True, but the same would equally be true the other direction.
	Yes, he could equally be a great husband and fantastic, but because he won't concede to the fact that I won't sleep with him immediately, that would disqualify him forever for being this good partner, right?
	It's good.
	Let me let's let that marinate a little bit.
	We'll come back.
	We'll come back to it, Andrew.
	We'll come back to it.
	It's food for thought.
	It's a good, it's a good thought.
	Although it would occur to me, how about this?
	Okay, hold on.
	I got something, okay, Andrew?
	In society, in society, in terms of what is deemed socially acceptable, I would argue that it's more socially acceptable to have sex early on in the relationship and to date somebody who's desirous of that, whether it's one way or the other, than it is for a man to date a former porn star or prostitute or promiscuous woman.
	I agree.
	Checkmate, no, I'm kidding.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Yeah, I'm not sure how that makes your argument for you because that porn star could still potentially be a great wife, which the man is passing up on by your logic here, right?
	Now, my logic, but Brian's logic, he would be passing up on potentially a great wife because she says, I don't want to sleep with you because I have reformed myself, right?
	So he could potentially be passing up on her just like you, when you say to a woman, by not sleeping with the man, you're potentially passing up on a good husband.
	Even if I grant to you that it is true, Brian, that it is more socially acceptable, it would still not matter because ultimately it's the same logic both ways.
	Both people could be passing up on who they think are great based on the fact that they don't meet whatever the criteria is that you have, right?
	I think he got me, boys.
	I think he got me.
	He got me, I think.
	I think I could marinate on it a little bit, and I think he got me.
	What about Parabase?
	I think I got to concede.
	I think I got to concede the argument.
	What's that?
	But you said checkmate.
	What about Parabon?
	Oh, I was being facetious, but He was joking.
	That was what you call what do you call that?
	Ribbing.
	It was ribbing.
	He was ribbing his pal, right?
	We're talking a little smack back and forth.
	That's called ribbing.
	No, I win, fucker.
	That's how that works, right?
	Yeah, and I'm just teasing.
	It's called teasing.
	I don't know how many times you're talking about it.
	$200.
	I trust Andrew on this.
	He has a history of wifing up promiscuous women.
	No, I have no history of wifing up promiscuous women.
	No history of that at all.
	You fucking lol paladins.
	And you're wrong.
	Andrew, right?
	Again.
	But in any case, this aside, this super chat will not save Brian from his logic.
	No amount of obfuscation will save Brian from his logic on this one.
	I don't know.
	Because for a girl, sleeping with a bunch of guys does change her.
	And I think that maybe if he had met her earlier on before the bodies, she could have been the right one.
	But now, with the history and the past, she's a different woman because of that history.
	Tell me exactly how this same exact logic would not apply to men.
	I would argue that promiscuous men also have the same exact problem, right?
	I don't think so.
	I think socially.
	Well, I don't believe that it's socially.
	So, here, I'll make a concession and then I'll make the argument.
	My concession is: I do believe that men value chastity in women far more than women value chastity in men.
	I completely concede that that is true.
	What I'm not willing to concede, though, is that damage from promiscuity in men isn't done just like damage is done from promiscuity in the opposite sex.
	I think women hold on to that thing, those trauma more than men do.
	Men tend to move on with their lives while women constantly judge their current guy to their past men.
	Let us assume for a second, even that that is correct.
	That still does not negate the fact that promiscuity in men is damaging to men.
	Even if it were more damaging to women, let's say it was every single sexual partner was 60% on average more damaging to a woman than a man.
	It would not negate the fact that it's still damaging to men.
	Andrew, now, and my proof of this is that almost every single man that I've discussed this with thus far has told me, and I, by the way, I will say, even the hosts of Fresh and Fit, and I've discussed this with them publicly, have told me promiscuity in and of itself does nothing good for men.
	It does nothing good for them.
	In fact, they always seem to want to take it back and wish that they were not so promiscuous or so promiscuous, right?
	Can I ask you?
	Why do you think that is?
	Can I ask you what damage do you think promiscuity has on men?
	Because I could see so clearly.
	It damages the most important thing for men that they have, which is virtue.
	Yeah.
	The most important thing is that the most important things that men have in this world: status and virtue.
	And they're intertwined.
	Whether you like it or not, one of the biggest things that men look at with other men for their status is their virtue.
	That is what they look at.
	Let me tell you the tier.
	The top tier is if you have a family and your family adores you, you have the highest status of almost any man on planet Earth.
	No matter how rich anybody else is, no matter how wealthy they are, no matter what Bugattis they fucking drive.
	If you have five kids, six kids, seven kids, and they all adore you, and so does your wife, you're the envy of the fucking world.
	That's the way the world is now.
	That's part of status.
	The second is virtue.
	The reason that employers are far more likely to employ men who are married, far more likely to Give bonuses to married men.
	The reason that people in society are more likely to move towards married men, as far as trust goes, is because it's a great status symbol because it shows this key element which is missing: virtue.
	It shows virtue.
	That's what it damages.
	The promiscuous bachelor down the street, yeah, you're friends.
	We have beers.
	It's great.
	That doesn't mean that you perceive him as being a virtuous man.
	Virtue with men, it matters.
	That's what, by the way, I'm going to make this differential.
	Because men value this so much in other men, I think that women often forget that they also value it in women, but they don't know what that means for women.
	What does virtue mean for women?
	That's part of what chastity is.
	That's beautiful and true.
	Indeed, indeed.
	That's really good to hear.
	I didn't know you'd have that perspective.
	Word.
	Guys, TTS is now $69, $69 TTS boys.
	Read them and weep.
	Or that didn't make sense.
	We'll weep if they roast us.
	I guess.
	Thank you guys.
	Get them in if you want.
	Get them in if you want.
	Which, by the way, I'll give a little red meat to you guys so that you can like hit me back, right?
	I'm the furthest from virtuous.
	I was a man whore, literally, just like plowed half the chicks in California.
	Okay, so to be fair, to be fair, right?
	When we're talking about virtue, virtue came to me later in life, not early in life, right?
	That's why I have no problem with the understanding that women have to pass things like this.
	Intellectually will donated $69.
	I totally give effect to that Aussie girl.
	Prattle, prattle, prattle.
	So I'm totally willing to give the concession there, right?
	But what I am saying is that even if that is true, that doesn't mean that the value of virtue goes away.
	Even if I was the most unvirtuous man, the standard would still be true.
	Where's that photo of him, bruv?
	Andrew, why did you become a virtuous?
	What happened?
	Damn, bro.
	Look at this fucking legend, bro.
	Holy fuck.
	That's Andrew.
	Holy frick, bro.
	Hold on.
	I'm a fucking legend.
	Look at that fucking guy, bro.
	Holy shit, dude.
	Get crap cakes and bookbooks.
	That's what Marilyn does.
	What the fuck?
	Where did that come from?
	Okay, but what happened?
	How did you become more virtuous?
	Wait, pull it up one more time.
	I milkshake.
	I ain't drinking up.
	What the hell, bro?
	Nick.
	Calm down, bro.
	Okay, sorry.
	Hold on.
	Wait, pull it back up one more.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, me so horny.
	Me loving one time.
	Damn.
	Hey, we're going to pull that.
	We're pulling that up every episode, Andrew.
	What changed it?
	Is that what you asked?
	What changed it?
	Yeah.
	How did you go?
	My father had multiple sclerosis and still does.
	And it debilitated his body and basically destroyed his entire functioning body in the most horrific way you can imagine.
	I used to hear him cry at night because his legs hurt so bad he couldn't get out of the bed.
	And when I was young, around the same age as that pig, he came to me one night and he said, You're fucking everything up in your life because you're stupid.
	I wish to God I had an able body like you do.
	And I would make every different decision than you're making right now.
	Imagine being in my flesh.
	And that was a big wake-up call for me.
	Can we go back?
	You know, that's the distinction: virtuous dad.
	The old man was always nothing but virtuous, by the way.
	Ew?
	Oh, no, no, no.
	This gets he backseezy.
	You know, you beat him in one argument.
	Next thing you know, I get the oohoo picture.
	This is some bullshit, Brian.
	Okay, let's get through the rest of the notes here.
	I think we're almost.
	Let's see.
	Go Nicari.
	You're born and raised Mormon.
	Oh, well, you said you didn't start dating until after high school when you left the church.
	My dating life went straight to having sex, and I don't understand how people have relationships without having sex.
	Before I met my husband, my longest relationship was three older.
	69, you donated $69.
	Brian, accept that Andrew is right.
	Or marry mewing Superman on the white shirt.
	Wait, what?
	I never understand these chats.
	What are they talking about?
	Wait, what?
	I don't understand.
	Warlord 69.
	Can you clarify, Brian?
	I'm not sure.
	Like white t-shirt or white shouse?
	Is that a blouse?
	What do you mean the Superman on a blue?
	It's a blouse, right?
	What's a blouse?
	Blouses look like a fancy looser thing.
	That's not a blouse?
	No, it's not a dress.
	That's a dress or a blouse?
	That's a dress.
	What's a blouse then?
	No one's wearing a picture.
	Which is a dress.
	I'm very confused about what a blouse is.
	Can somebody please explain?
	It's a nice shirt.
	No, it's wearing a blouse.
	It's a black.
	But why don't you just call it a shirt then?
	Because there's two different types of shit.
	What's the difference between a shirt and a blouse?
	Top and a long-sleeved shirt.
	There's a difference there.
	There's a difference.
	Yeah.
	It's money transition.
	So what's a blouse?
	We're trying to tell you about it.
	It's like a different cut than a shirt.
	Too many women talking at once.
	I'm just very confused about this.
	Okay, anyways.
	Fancy top.
	Let's see that.
	We have Ashley.
	Ashley, my dear, you said that you met a guy on a dating app and he was fine from head to toe.
	We spoke for about two to three weeks.
	Not the friends that were.
	Before meeting, and it was consistent, but all through text.
	And then when I finally met him, he was at least 100 pounds, if not more, heavier and didn't even look recognizable when I saw him.
	When he came up to me greeting me, I for sure gave him a confused look because it took a second for me to register that it was him.
	His picture on his profile must have been from years and years and years ago.
	Catfish.
	The question was.
	Oh, am I wrong for feeling deceived?
	No.
	No, you're catfished.
	No, you were deceived.
	I mean, you were doing it.
	I mean, you were kind of fascinating him, though.
	Valdev donated $69.
	Hey, question atheist here on question for Andrew Dotwood.
	Christian women considering themselves perfect tends to be blasphemous, likening themselves to that of divinity.
	Yeah, so I would consider this to be a point of pride.
	So what's actually going on here, just to answer the super chat directly, is this is narcissism on display.
	Well, what I call female narcissism.
	I'm not sure that what you would consider actual narcissism even exists, but female narcissism being the, in this case, I think that the objective of be nice is actually higher on the tier of virtues for these particular sets of women than telling the truth about what they actually think, even if it were to have a better impact on their message.
	And so, yes, I do think that this is a center point for pride.
	It would be the absence of virtue.
	Now, that's just me.
	It's my take.
	There's other people who disagree.
	I'm sure that the women on the panel disagree.
	But yes, I do think that it's the epitome of virtue signaling.
	Word.
	Word.
	All right, Valdiev.
	Long time.
	I haven't seen you in a while.
	Thank you.
	Good to see you back in the chat.
	Appreciate Valdiv Valdiev.
	How do you pronounce that shit?
	Thank you.
	Really appreciate it.
	Let's see here.
	Where were we?
	Oh, the dude wrong for feeling deceived.
	No.
	You should have reasonably, you know, representative photos on your dating app.
	That was wrong.
	Did you still, like, did you still kick it?
	Did you kick it or did you dip?
	What did you do?
	We kicked it, but I also, like, same thing.
	Like, I offer to pay my stuff.
	But it was like.
	That was a nice thing to do.
	Yeah, I kind of, I experienced this all the time.
	Like, actually, never mind.
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Are you going to get it?
	100 pounds.
	It's crazy, bro.
	Oh, my gosh.
	It's crazy, bro.
	Indeed.
	I don't know.
	It was just like, it just didn't even look like him.
	Like, at all.
	Like, at all.
	You don't like a big guy.
	You don't like a guy.
	No, and I think it was just more the fact that it's like, dang, you could just, it was like deceived at like.
	That's how I feel when women wear makeup.
	But at least you're in person.
	I mean, like, so on, like, when I don't, I don't have that app anymore, but when I did, I would put, like, made sure I was super extra, no, like, filter, no, like, nothing so they could see, like, because I feel like that's wrong to kick.
	It is.
	It is wrong.
	Actually, Instagram's a little different.
	Like, you're just having fun with the filters, but.
	It's not explicitly a dating app.
	So.
	All right.
	As a single person.
	Oh, wait, we already talked about that, I think.
	Victoria.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Actually, we hit your notes already.
	Let's see.
	Victoria.
	We got Ashley.
	We got Carly.
	We got Michaela.
	We got Alyssa.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	So I'm going to ask a couple questions.
	Would you rather be you're in a forest?
	Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear?
	Oh, gosh.
	She's Russian.
	She can see.
	We had a Russian girl.
	It's always weird.
	We'll be like, Russians will cuddle with Russian girls.
	Australians, Russians.
	Okay.
	Which one do you pick?
	Bear.
	You pick the bear?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Because brave.
	What do you mean?
	Sorry, guys.
	Did they have a laugh button for Andrew?
	That sounded like Andrew's laugh button.
	Whoa, okay.
	I was like, what the heck?
	The hell?
	I'm just sitting over here.
	What the hell?
	Why am I in the target?
	I was confused.
	I was like, your lips at it.
	Let's go.
	Is that a man or a bear?
	A bear.
	Bear?
	Okay.
	A man.
	Okay.
	A man.
	Mon.
	Man.
	Okay, you two picked bear.
	Why did you pick bear?
	I don't know.
	It's weird that a man is alone in the forest.
	I don't know.
	Is it night or is it daytime?
	Wouldn't it be weird that you're alone in the forest too?
	I mean, it's just a weird situation.
	We're hypothetical.
	So.
	And I'm more comfortable dealing with a bear.
	Just not approach a bear.
	Have you dealt with a bear before?
	How many bears have you encountered?
	Like one?
	One?
	It was a cup?
	In a zoo?
	Was it a zoo?
	No, it was.
	Yeah.
	No, I don't count the zoo.
	It was like one of the birthdays of my parents' friends.
	They had a small, like, a bear cup that doesn't count.
	Yeah, that doesn't really.
	Don't bears fuck people up pretty bad in Russia?
	No, they don't.
	No?
	No, they just are wrong.
	It's just Siberia, which I'm from the western part of Russia.
	So I live in the City of Spain.
	We still have bears and CDs.
	Okay, so bear.
	Why?
	Again?
	You said, because why is the man in the forest?
	Yeah, and I'm afraid of men.
	Closer to the man.
	Why?
	Closer to the man.
	Like, why is he there?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so here's the scenario.
	A button gets pressed, you're magically transported to the forest, and a random man is also randomly transported to the forest.
	Okay.
	So there's no motive for why he's in the forest.
	You just randomly get and you come across.
	You're going to come across the man, random man, or the random bear.
	Okay, I would probably evaluate his looks first.
	Because if he looks like strange, maybe I won't approach him.
	Have you seen pictures of Ted Bundy?
	Yeah.
	Foin.
	But like, I don't know, like the vibes, I guess.
	Have you heard stories about Ted Bundy?
	I watched like enough of stuck in there.
	He did not give off bad vibes.
	If the man gives you the ick, then the bear, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Interesting.
	So bears don't normally attack if you don't like, I don't know, annoy them, right?
	No, that is not true.
	Have you never seen like the Revenant?
	I don't know.
	No.
	Oh, my gosh.
	That's what I was thinking of.
	Like, that's a good one.
	Leonardo DiCaprio got messed up by a bear.
	I think I wanted to see.
	And if there's like a cub and then there's a mama bear, like, you're in a bit of trouble.
	Uh-huh.
	Okay, literally.
	What do you mean, like, approach a bear?
	Like, what do you think?
	Okay, come across.
	So, like, let's say there's a path.
	Okay.
	And you're 50 feet away.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	You're coming around a corner.
	Coming around a corner in the forest.
	Random man, random bear.
	You're going to come.
	The bear sees you, the man sees you.
	What you say donated $69.
	You see the man.
	Brian, you can't ask the bear question to Russians.
	They are basically domesticated in Russia.
	That is like anyone else if they would rather come across a kitten or a great white shark.
	Well, look, I'll grant to you that bears are more familiar in Russia.
	But they're not domestic.
	But still?
	Thank you, man, though.
	Thank you for the message.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You remember when the famous Russian Zane Gief used to wrestle bears?
	Zangief, you know that guy?
	Yeah, Zangief.
	No, I'm not sure.
	No, well, this was serious business.
	Seriously.
	This was back when I was a kid.
	I used to see videos of Zangief wrestling with bears all the time.
	Was it a dope bear after the show?
	Yeah.
	He would just kick the holy shit out of these bears.
	Zangief would.
	Zangief did do that.
	He did do that.
	He did, in fact, kick the shit out of the bears.
	Constantly.
	All the time.
	On the street?
	And also in the forest.
	Yeah, he did it.
	Yeah.
	Both.
	Yeah, he was just an ass-kicking machine.
	Right to left.
	Smashed twice.
	No smash.
	Fucking run past.
	Smashed twice.
	Hard pass.
	Zangieef and Blanca.
	How is it?
	Hold on.
	This is.
	This is.
	No, no, no.
	First of all, I reject this.
	Blanca, I believe, was South American.
	Zangief was Russian.
	Okay?
	So we've got to differentiate these things.
	Curtis Undispaulian Undiscoordinated, $69.
	Brian and Andrew, which would you rather experience, five years in Soviet gulag or a starving grizzly bear in the woods?
	Yeah, I think I would take the five years in the gulag over a starving grizzly bear.
	I don't know.
	That's a hard one, then.
	That's a tough one.
	Do I have a weapon?
	Do I have a shotgun?
	I'll take the bear if I got a shotgun.
	No, I ain't gonna take a shot.
	No, you were just randomly transported.
	You were just randomly transported there.
	I don't like temperatures below 70 degrees.
	I don't think I can do it.
	It's too cold.
	Okay.
	And then you said bear.
	Why did you pick bear?
	I immediately just thought of like some lifetime movie.
	And like, if someone's in the woods, it's probably not a good deal.
	So I was just like, maybe I'll take a bear rather than probably some crazy person.
	And I literally thought just like of a lifetime movie.
	I was like, there's probably someone crazy in the woods.
	So that's why I picked bear.
	This is a lifetime fucked up a whole generation of women.
	Lifetime convinced an entire generation of women that men are a bunch of R-words, right?
	They're just out there R-wording all the women that they see.
	They just can't help themselves.
	They're just compelled to just R-word every chick that they come across.
	This is Lifetime.
	You know that Lifetime is run by a bunch of social justice warrior leftist lunatic feminists, right?
	I don't watch it anymore when I used to watch it like years ago.
	But that's immediately just what reference to me.
	But I didn't know that's who ran it.
	Have I ever watched Bear?
	And it is true.
	It kind of makes it seem like every guy is that.
	Yeah.
	Every single movie.
	Literally, that's what they do.
	Every single movie, there's a predatory guy who's out there just can't help himself.
	He can't wait.
	You know what I mean?
	I think maybe the Lifetime reference.
	Do you want to revise your answer?
	Maybe.
	You guys kind of flinched a little bit at the spider there.
	Totally.
	It's horrible.
	Dan, that's in work code.
	It's worth a shot.
	Oh, revise my answer.
	I mean, yeah, I mean, I'd probably take seeing a guy out there because maybe if I'm lost or something, help me find my way out or whatever it is.
	Because if I'm alone in the woods, I probably don't have self signal or anything like that.
	So, yeah.
	Word. Word. Word.
	Okay.
	I don't think I have any.
	Can I ask a very quick follow-up?
	So this particular thought exercise is not my own.
	It actually comes from a content creator named Roma Army.
	This is the first place that I heard it anyway.
	She's great speaker.
	But what she postulates is this.
	She asked this question, and I'll ask it to all of you.
	Do you think that a man would prefer to share his feelings with a woman or a tree?
	A tree.
	Going around the table.
	Yeah, probably Chi.
	I don't know.
	Maybe, yeah, a tree.
	There's no response to it.
	Oh, yeah, a tree for sure.
	Yeah, a tree.
	A woman.
	A tree.
	A tree.
	And for those of you who said a tree, why do you think a man would prefer to share his feelings with a tree rather than a woman?
	I actually heard this the other day that men think that when they open up to a woman, then women can use it against them, or women will look at them as weak or something.
	I think it's because women are spiteful bitches.
	Oh, yeah, that's I mean, that's a pretty good answer.
	What else, though?
	What do you guys think on the right side of the table?
	Why do you think that they would rather open up about their feelings to a tree rather than you?
	Maybe they've shared their feelings with women before and maybe they didn't get the best response growing up, so maybe that.
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	Mommy issues.
	Do you think that this is the fault of women or men?
	Women.
	Women.
	Going around the table, is it the fault of women or men that men would rather share their feelings with a tree than they would women?
	Feminine.
	I mean, it could be women or men that it's ruined for them.
	So I would say the person that they are opened up to before.
	Because it could be.
	Okay, which one do you think is more responsible?
	Probably the person, the woman.
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	But out of men or women, who would you think it was more responsible for a culture or a culture which is set?
	Yeah, okay, women.
	Okay.
	Men, actually.
	Men, okay.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, I would assume women.
	I was like, what is that ring in my note in my finger?
	I was so confused for someone.
	All right, let's do the dating app.
	We need to do the dating app.
	Hey, I didn't actually hear an answer from you.
	Oh, I said.
	Oh, I said.
	No, no, no, the one next to you.
	Oh, woman.
	What's that?
	Women.
	Women.
	So to you, answered men.
	I just have to ask, why is it that men would be responsible for the fact that trees are more responsive to their feelings than women?
	I mean, I would say the reason I said men, because I think immediately like of their relationship maybe with their father.
	And like he's like, I don't know who said it earlier, but maybe they're, I think I said it actually.
	Maybe the person who responded to them or as a person, I'm like tripped up in my words.
	As a person, I think as maybe a boy growing up, he's going to look up to his father.
	So maybe if he expressed things to his father and his father never reciprocated it, typically a guy's going to look up to a guy, I feel like, and a woman, for me, I'm going to probably look up to my mom more than my dad sometimes.
	Yeah, what does that have to do with the fact, even if his dad never reciprocated his feelings, what the hell would that have to do with men preferring to share their feelings with trees rather than you?
	Because they were just hurt by their feelings being reciprocated by hurting.
	Who hurt you?
	Is it the who hurt me?
	Not hurt you, but hurt you.
	Not that who hurt you.
	I think it's the relationship they have with their mothers.
	Thanks so much.
	Fathers.
	Yeah.
	What's interesting more than anything, though, is that most of you on this panel actually think that men would prefer to open up about how they feel about things to an inanimate object who could never say a word about it than you.
	And yet, if we were to flip the coin and ask what your number one problem with men is, it would probably be that when you open up about your feelings, they don't give a shit.
	I mean, I would give feelings to a tree.
	That's just over a man?
	Yes.
	Over a woman?
	Yes.
	Mostly.
	Why over a man?
	Because men don't think of things the same way women do.
	Well, does the tree care about your feelings?
	No.
	Does the man care about your feelings?
	Yeah, but he wants to fix it.
	And I just want to complain.
	So, I'd rather complain to something that's not going to try and fix it and just let me get it all out and then I move on.
	So, you basically just want to bid on underscore YouTube donated $77.77.
	If Brian's teenage picture is as chiseled as Andrew's, I'll donate a second time.
	I'm going to need technology.
	I think I'm going to need more to show you my.
	I don't know if I have them in our folder.
	Hold on, let me look.
	I don't know if I have young Brian photos.
	What the frick?
	I don't know if I have it.
	I don't know if I have it.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I'll look, Brian.
	I do have a quick question for you over the end.
	I was just having the engagement with.
	I got to ask this one question.
	Do you have a really small dog?
	No.
	Not at all?
	No.
	I have a rat whaler and a coonhound.
	Oh, sure.
	Hunting dog.
	That's dope.
	Hunting dog.
	No purse dog?
	No.
	No purse dog.
	I love rats, though.
	Rats?
	Rats.
	Do you have a pet rat?
	I used to have five.
	Pet rat.
	That's what's up.
	Rats freak me out.
	They're so cute.
	They're like fat snakes.
	I don't like them.
	Rats are like fat snakes.
	I stand by my belief.
	Fat sky.
	They're like tiny possibly.
	That's what faith is, you know.
	Dash belief.
	Yeah, dash wide rat.
	There you go.
	And I'll tell you what.
	Back in my day, we don't have no riots.
	Fat rats.
	Okay, I don't know what their fault is.
	All right, hold on.
	Let's do her dating app review.
	Let's do her dating app review.
	Damn.
	Party foul.
	All right.
	This is Diana.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Dion.
	Diana?
	It's in Russian.
	You say how'd you say it?
	In Russia?
	Yeah.
	Diana.
	It looks so cool.
	Dion.
	Diana.
	Diana.
	Okay.
	She's using she, her, hers pronouns.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's pretty cool.
	Bro, charge your fucking phone.
	Holy shit.
	I know.
	I just saw you.
	I was like a fat girl.
	My simple pleasures.
	Hazelnut, oatmeal, shake and espresso, sunny day, and clear schedule.
	Yeah.
	I think you mean oat milk, not oatmeal.
	From Moscow.
	Short-term, looking.
	She's looking for a short-term.
	Wait, I thought you were dating a guy.
	Yeah, you still got your hinge?
	Oh, no.
	She said this was from before, but I still got this.
	Is that how you met your guy on Hinge?
	No, no, no, no.
	Of course not.
	Okay, pull it back up.
	Okay.
	This is before, guys.
	So she's monogamy.
	Next.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	London.
	I'm going in a month.
	Okay.
	When was that?
	It was in May.
	Okay, that was a while ago.
	Wait.
	That's it?
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	It's cute.
	It's classic.
	It's cool.
	Not really anything there for me to really say anything about it.
	Short-term looking for long, open to long-term.
	Were you on Hinge?
	Long time ago, yeah.
	Not yet.
	How was it?
	What inspired you to say that?
	How was it?
	How was your experience?
	My experience on Hindu.
	Did you actually go on a other dating?
	Yeah, I went on dates.
	It was better than the other dating apps.
	But I mean, still a lot of bullshit that you deal with on any dating app.
	You'll still deal with on that app.
	But it seems a bit more serious than Hinge.
	Excuse me, Tinder and Bumble.
	Do you think you could actually find a relationship?
	Sure, yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I dated a couple girls from there on Hinge.
	Dated.
	I had actually a pretty serious long-term relationship from Tinder, even.
	How long was it?
	Two years.
	Two years.
	Yeah.
	That's cool.
	It's possible, but it's rare.
	Yeah, I know.
	It is rare, for sure.
	Okay, so those were the dating apps.
	Nick, there's two videos we need to react to.
	Good sir.
	The first one is kind of related to something we talked about earlier on in the show.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	We'll do the IG one.
	Thank you, Roscoe.
	I do have some pics.
	I'll have to find them.
	Did you refresh it?
	Just refresh it.
	Refresh it and then play it again, I guess.
	So it starts from the beginning, good sir.
	Boom, boom, boom, boom.
	By the way, guys, twitch.tv slash whatever, drops a follow, drops of arms.
	I think it's broken help.
	Okay, go ahead and play it.
	Hardest thing a guy can do.
	I'm not really into nice guys because I look f boys, so I can't really think of anything nice that they can do.
	My lucky day, hell yeah.
	I'm just joking.
	All right, and what's the worst thing a guy can do?
	I guess be nice.
	For underscore the underscore patriatriarchy, donated $69.
	Red dress is winning me over more as the pod goes on.
	Must be the wisdom she gained from her old man.
	Brian, with all the props, your table is looking like a kid he was given $10 for the book fair.
	Wait, what?
	Makes your prop set up looks juvenile.
	Your prop setup on your table looks juvenile.
	I mean, you have one of those S's that you drew.
	Oh, does he mean the women or does he mean those S's are legendary?
	You know, when you go to the book fair as a kid, it's so exciting and get random stuff.
	That's what he said.
	Listen, man.
	Don't talk shit on my fucking plasma ball.
	It's fun to look at the shelves and stuff here.
	It's kind of funny.
	I'll fuck you up, bro, if you talk shit about my fucking plasma ball, dude.
	How fucking dare you talk shit about my fucking motherfucking.
	I'm still trying to find it.
	I'm sorry.
	Hold on.
	Where the fuck is it?
	God damn it.
	I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you.
	You're going to have to call the fucking United Nations to get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
	I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
	I will massacre you.
	Fuck you up!
	True colors.
	I'm not true.
	Okay.
	Get wrecked.
	Okay.
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, I guess the video, I guess.
	Yeah, fuck it.
	Thank you, bro.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Nick.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Nick.
	Go ahead.
	Hottest thing a guy can do.
	I'm not really into nice guys because I like f boys, so I can't really think of anything nice that they can do.
	My lucky day, hell yeah.
	I'm just joking.
	All right, and what's the worst thing a guy can do?
	I guess be nice.
	Be nice.
	Because sometimes if you're too nice, it gives like the ick.
	Oh, really?
	You know?
	Because it's like, why are you so nice?
	You like when guys like degrade you type shit?
	Is that what you like?
	You don't want to degrade me, but like, you know.
	Because I feel like if a guy is nice, that means he gets no girls, and that's like a turn off.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Unfortunately.
	But then I'm on social media, like, I want a guy that gets no bitch, but like, that's just not true.
	So.
	Okay, okay.
	What's the hardest thing a guy can do?
	The panel's reaction to this started.
	I'm still a little distracted.
	Starting with by the titties?
	Yeah, they're just there.
	They're okay, I guess.
	No, I know.
	They're just sorry.
	I don't know.
	She's getting a lot of help from her friends at Victoria's Secret.
	Okay.
	They love the thrill.
	Your reaction to the video?
	I don't know.
	I just think it's wrong.
	You think it's what?
	I just think it's wrong.
	I wouldn't support this opinion.
	Okay.
	Your thoughts?
	I don't agree with that.
	You disagree?
	Okay.
	That's like the saddest thing ever.
	I just want to hug her.
	All right.
	Yeah, I don't agree with her.
	I think she's being very extreme for shock value.
	I do think she believed it to a degree, but in general, that doesn't work out for people, so I disagree.
	I think he just needs to smack the frozen yogurt out of her hand, and she'll probably fall in love with him.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I like nice guys.
	Curtis under Corley and underscore donated $69.
	Who on the panel would win a fist fight against Brian?
	Before you answer, keep in mind that Brian is from France, so he will most likely give up quick and may even say, take Paris.
	It's all yours.
	You know what?
	Because you said that, I am going to change the TTS voice to French, and I'm going to re-trigger that shit in French, so you're French too, bitch.
	The entire French economy is crashing, Brian, because all the white flag factories are going out of business.
	I take offense to that, sir.
	I wish for you to retract your statement.
	Retract it, Andrew.
	Hold on, let me re-trigger this because I'm.
	Okay.
	Curtis Leon donated soisant neuve dollars.
	Who on the panel would win a fist fight against Brianne?
	Before you answer, keep in mind that Brayanne is from France, so he will most likely give up quick and may even say, take Paris, it's all yours.
	Take Paris?
	Excuse me, Curtis.
	Okay, who would win a fist fight against me?
	Do you have any training?
	Maddie, Maddie's going to be the one.
	She's being honest, and all you women on the panel are lauris.
	You know, that does sound better in French.
	It goes down smooth.
	The insults go down smoother.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Yeah, with that French accent.
	I changed it.
	The problem is, you are a fucking skank.
	It's just like, it goes down smoother, doesn't it?
	I changed it to a different French one.
	I changed it to Mathieu.
	The previous one was Remy, so now it's Mathieu.
	So, Madison, you're going to be the one who gives me a woman.
	You present it yourself.
	You're like, you got that sleeper build.
	Actually, I've overheard, like, Maddie kind of slaps Nick around a little bit.
	So I've seen her do it.
	And I feel like, yeah, she could probably take me.
	Right, Nick?
	Do you want to call like a hotline or something?
	You know, I have the decoder ring for the video.
	What if I reframed it this way?
	What that woman was actually saying is, I want a man who doesn't put up with any of my fucking bullshit.
	That's what she's actually saying.
	She's not saying, I want a guy who's mean to me and smacks me around and beats me up and is cruel.
	None of those things.
	What she's really saying is, I would prefer to have a man who didn't put up with my endless amounts of shit testing and bullshit.
	That's what she's actually saying.
	Agreed.
	Agreed.
	It's so much better when a man just can say enough.
	And you're like, wow, actually, that was nice.
	I was freaking myself out there for a second.
	This is why I wouldn't want a woman to be a president, because it's just...
	Damn, that's a hot take, bro.
	So based on the objective standards, at least the objective standards for the subjectivity.
	R.P.R. Aquatic donated $69.
	Sorry, Andrew.
	Pineapple, bill of pizza, bill of anesthesis, quite serious.
	Remy's, the other French guy's way better.
	Hold on, I'm switching a pack.
	This is quite serious.
	Does pineapple belong on pizza?
	Show of hands.
	Does pineapple belong on pizza?
	Belong, not always, but sometimes.
	Yeah.
	Damn, we got some crazy people.
	Absolutely.
	It's so good.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Go ahead if you want, Andrew.
	Go ahead.
	This is, you're going to get the red for this.
	You're going to get the red for this one.
	Angry Andrew mode.
	Unbelievable pineapple on pizza.
	Okay, so back to this.
	I'm saying, I think from the perspective of what she's saying, I just want a guy who, if I shit test him, he doesn't put up with it.
	Let me give you an example of a really easy one, right?
	That by the subjective standards of be nice, I think you would consider not to be nice, but would actually want.
	Where should we go to eat?
	And the man says, We're going to go here.
	And you kind of argue and you, you know, I don't know because you never know where the fuck you want to eat.
	And he goes, no, we're just going here.
	Now, I think from a standard, from an outsider looking in, they could say, oh, you're being a jerk.
	Oh, you're being a prick.
	But the truth is, is that you want him to fucking decide, right?
	You want him to decide where you go to eat.
	And you can say, you can pretend, you can lie to me and be like, I always know where I want to eat, but you're all lying.
	No woman ever, anywhere in the history of all of mankind, has ever been able to make a decision on which restaurant to eat at.
	So that's a good example of where be nice intersects with make decision.
	Earlier, didn't you say that your wife knows what you want to eat before you know what you want to eat?
	Yeah, that doesn't mean that she knows what restaurant she wants to go to.
	I know that shit because I'm the man.
	But she knows where you want to go, so she already knows where you go.
	No, she knows what I want her to cook for me.
	That has nothing to do with what restaurant she wants to eat at, in which she's always indecisive, just like I'm sure you are.
	I always go with that.
	So you appreciate it that your wife anticipates your needs and desires when it comes to that stuff, right?
	And I think that's really important in a healthy marriage, for sure.
	And this is why I said when you asked, would a man, do you think a man would rather talk to a tree or a woman about his feelings?
	I said woman because the thing is, it's like a debrief.
	You said shh.
	Oh, nothing.
	You're good.
	It's like a debrief once in a while, and he just lets me know what's up, and I just listen, I take it in, and then it makes it easier for a good stretch of time for me to anticipate his needs.
	But I understand that sometimes women suck, so I know why some men don't want to talk.
	TTS is 30.
	Roast, it's time for the roast.
	Oh, wow.
	Well, no, but can you actually respond directly to what I'm asking?
	Which is, isn't that a good example of the intersect between you're mean or you're a jerk or this kind of thing?
	Because the dude says, no, we're just going to go fucking eat here because otherwise we'll be arguing for the next two hours about where to eat our fucking food because you can't make up your mind.
	Isn't that a good intersection for be nice versus what is reality?
	I would not consider that mean.
	No, it's not mean at all.
	It's not mean.
	It's actually very relaxing at the end of the day.
	Someone just says, this is what's happening.
	And you can just.
	Yeah, no.
	Well, I agree with you that that's probably better at the end of the day.
	What I'm saying is that I think from this woman's perspective, all she's saying is, I want a guy who won't put up with bullshit and endless shit testing, not a guy that's physically abusive, it's going to beat her up, or is super mean to her, just a guy not going to put up with it.
	She clarified.
	She clarified that she didn't want to be degraded, right?
	And that's what my take on that video was that she was just being kind of extreme about it on purpose for the video, for the sake of the content.
	But yeah, I agree.
	That's what she meant.
	Yeah.
	100%.
	I think it's mean when my husband makes me choose where we go.
	Babies.
	Looks like you're breastfeeding.
	Oh.
	Sorry.
	I feel like the girl in the video, okay, looks like she'd be combative in a way.
	Or if it's like, if her, like, she wants her boyfriend to kiss up to her.
	I don't know.
	That was my perception.
	That's interesting.
	Why do you think that?
	She just sounds like a girl who knows what she wants in a way.
	Okay.
	Maybe I have one.
	We have another video.
	Is that correct, Nick?
	By the way, guys, TTS has been lowered to 30.
	If you will do a roast section session if you guys want to roast plenty of roast-worthy moments.
	So think about maybe roast Maddie.
	Maybe roast Morgan.
	Maybe roast the guy who does the sprinkler thing every fucking show.
	I don't know.
	I love that guy.
	Oh, video?
	Yeah.
	We can do video.
	Actually, wait, Twitch.
	Let's do Twitch.
	Guys, Twitch at Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drops a follow on the Prime sub if you have one.
	Excuse me.
	That was weird.
	Twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a Prime sub if you have one.
	Guys, it's been 54 minutes since we last had Prime.
	Help.
	I think it's bugged.
	I think our Twitch Prime subs are bugged.
	Can somebody do a little test in the chat?
	She was being honest because she was drunk.
	You guys are so politically correct to whiz all your answers you make.
	Damn.
	That's crazy.
	I've never been called politically correct in my life, so that's interesting.
	That's crazy.
	I mean, I can be less so if you want.
	You want to be less.
	I can be less politically correct if people would prefer me not to be as diplomatic.
	How do you feel about illegal immigration?
	It's wrong.
	That's it?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	There's a lot of people that do a lot and work really hard to legally do it.
	Every new TTS gets a new voice.
	I think we're going to do.
	Brianne, to get released from prison, you have to do an obsession with Leila.
	That includes water spore, pour stalliene at prison electronic music, font party, wearing speedo, and you want ecstasy.
	I'll pick Leila.
	Bro, dude.
	Oh, dude, House of the Dragon tonight.
	What?
	Why would you learn that?
	There's no way he died.
	I'm sorry.
	There's no way he's done.
	I mean, I hope he does.
	I hate that.
	Don't spoil that shit, bro.
	Like, you gotta think it's not, you're not just doing that for me.
	You're spoiling it for the viewers.
	Why would you say that?
	Why would you say that?
	You know that that's all they're gonna do now.
	Why would you do that, Brian?
	Why did you find spoilers?
	Why did you?
	Why?
	I don't know, because I'm retarded.
	Sorry.
	It's gotta for punishment.
	The whole, all the TDS is just gonna be spoilers.
	It's gonna be spoilers.
	All of it.
	You did it.
	You did it.
	Oh, no, they all die eventually.
	I mean, fucking it becomes Game of Thrones, and then it's like Daenerys and Jon Snow, and then that is fucking terrible by the end of it, too.
	I already read that.
	Look, I read the books.
	I'm not.
	I already know what.
	I already know what happened.
	You can't spoil it.
	Maybe this is the 4D chess, Andrew.
	I already know what's going to happen.
	I'm just baiting for money.
	Just kidding.
	Boom.
	4D chess.
	300 IQ.
	Baiting dollar.
	Is it worth it?
	This is why Yokua girl has millions of followers and you don't read.
	The world appreciato nestiu.
	Realo nesti.
	Brian y demand my sound.
	Oh, I got you.
	Hello, femme-kuns, I have an 11-year-old girl.
	I'm trying to instill in her the value of chastity and virginity.
	Your disregard for their value instantly drops it to zero.
	Stop being selfish.
	Own your past.
	Own it.
	Own your past.
	GR Grace.
	But it's all been washed away.
	It's all been washed away with a slash cheese pineapple.
	I love that show.
	You know about that show.
	Yeah.
	Wait, I just like that.
	I used to watch it all the time.
	Oh, wow.
	I didn't know there's anything.
	Oh, shit.
	I put it on Chinese.
	Fuck.
	Wait, hold on.
	Absolutely no resting for this table tonight.
	The Trump Roll Kamala question was clicked already on next absolutely fantastic choice, ladies.
	Kamala is the only person with Down syndrome.
	Everyone hates Swift donated sounds of you.
	Why not just devote a look at what women have done in the past?
	Why is it so hard for women to just accept accountability?
	Okay.
	I think Ulysses, the pagan, donated the San Shi Mei Yuan.
	I'm curious in a relationship why when?
	A woman is not in the mood for sex.
	Hands up and rightfully so.
	But if the woman is in the mood and the man isn't, they get salty as hell.
	That's actually donated the sense.
	Maddie, don't you think Leila and Brian would make a cute couple?
	Absolutely not.
	What the hell?
	Thank you, Curtis.
	I want to know who lives.
	No one for the table.
	They get perfect men, but must pick one.
	Small lens in height, small wallet or small D.
	Okay, I'm going to pause for you guys to answer really quick.
	Perfect man, but you got to pick one.
	Short, small wallet, or small D?
	Small D.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't care about anyone.
	How short I'm talking?
	Five feet.
	He's five foot one.
	Five foot.
	Small D. Small D, okay.
	Which do you pick?
	Quick, quick, quick.
	We gotta go.
	We gotta go.
	Quick, okay, quick.
	You can go first.
	I was gonna say, answer the question, quick.
	I don't know.
	I don't really know.
	No, no, faster, faster, faster.
	You gotta pick one.
	Look, all the nukes in the world are gonna go off right this second if you don't pick between these three choices.
	Yes, it's gonna look like that, except for the whole world.
	What was the first one?
	Small D. Small wallet or short, which is so stressful.
	Small wallet.
	Small height.
	Small wallet.
	I don't care about any of them.
	Morgan?
	D.
	Okay, cool.
	Walking rascal underscore on underscore YouTube donate to the Qi Shi Chi Dian Chi Chi Mei Yuan.
	Statistically, son of you ladies will be scarred and alone.
	When that occurs, will you be the crazy cat lady or the cycle tiny purse dog blood?
	PS name the son branches of American government.
	Okay, so can any of you name the three branches?
	Any of you?
	Three branches of the American government.
	Go.
	Name one.
	Quick, go.
	Judicial.
	Yeah.
	Federal.
	Federal.
	Legislative.
	Here, we got judicial.
	We got executive.
	Executive.
	And then what's the third?
	Legislative.
	They're in college recently.
	W. Morgan.
	W. Morgan.
	Okay.
	Good job, Morgan.
	Trump Liang Qianling Archi Si Trump to save America.
	Make America great again.
	Fight.
	MAGA, baby.
	Make America great again.
	Random Burr Edford donated the Sen Shi Mei Yuan.
	The state of the world is sad.
	For context, I spent my daily money on a podcast.
	SMH.
	It seems to me that most women are delusional.
	Single full-time dads have no help.
	Keep hated, kings.
	W Kings, thank you.
	Brian Kilar donated the San Shi Mei Yuan.
	I need a limp roller.
	...goes like this, and comes back like this.
	Ooh, I...
	I like how she says it.
	If you come for the king, you best not miss.
	Trump Liang Chianling Archie Su.
	Enjoy your Gulangs.
	Come your knees.
	They did miss.
	They did miss.
	And we get underscore jerk.
	Archie donate to the Sen Shi Mei Yuan.
	Ladies, starting from the right.
	Would you rather smash Wolverine with his face and Deadpool's body or Deadpool with his face and Wolverine's body?
	No masks.
	Would you rather smash Wolverine with his face and Deadpool's body or Deadpool with his face and Wolverine's body, no mask?
	Wow, Deadpool looks.
	Deadpool has a burned face.
	His face is all burned and melted.
	How's his body?
	Deadpool's whole body is like melted body.
	I don't even know what either of them look like.
	Quick.
	I don't watch.
	Just pick one.
	Wolverine's body.
	One or two.
	Do you pick one or two?
	Wolverine's face.
	Two.
	Wolverine's face.
	I don't really want to pick up.
	Dope.
	If I'm thinking of the guy in the movie, then yeah.
	Old man Marine donated the san shi mei yuan to the sh in the room.
	Quit being delusional.
	You would gain more respect saying Liu.
	That's at least above average and expresses humility.
	And that is way more attractive than saying you're perfect.
	Oh, slam.
	Why is Daisy reading this?
	Me love you long time.
	Me love you long time.
	I hate you.
	Me love you long time.
	Wait, hold on.
	Me love you long time.
	Wait, this isn't fair, though.
	Me love you long time.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to do you a solid person.
	So this is currently a Chinese, but that's actually a Vietnamese.
	So I'm going to change it to Vietnamese.
	One moment, please.
	Hold on.
	You got girlfriend, Vietnam.
	Wait, where is it?
	Sorry, guys.
	Portuguese.
	Where's V?
	Hello?
	Okay, hold on, boys.
	I'm finding Vietnamese.
	I'm doing this guy solid.
	I'm going to change it.
	Vietnamese.
	Hopefully, it's a girl.
	Save settings.
	One sec.
	I think the Chinese was better.
	It probably wasn't.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'm pausing it.
	The next person, you get to pick.
	So, if you send in the TTS and you pick an accent, you get to pick the new accent.
	So, I'm going to set it to Dutch real quick.
	All right, Nick?
	Right.
	Hold on.
	You said it back to French.
	I liked it when Pepe Le Pue was reading all the super chats.
	Hold on.
	I got to do Dutch real quick.
	All right.
	Hold on. Not great. Not great. Not great.
	Not great.
	Sorry.
	French was romantic.
	Can somebody fix that?
	Française retour France.
	I could do Canadian.
	You had the great French voice earlier.
	What happened to that?
	That was good.
	I'm going to put it on Rémy.
	Remy, it is.
	Okay, it is good.
	All right, guys, it's French now.
	It's going to be French, but you can pick for the next.
	If you specify in your TTS, you want a different voice for the next TTS.
	We'll switch it.
	We'll switch it.
	Where's the roast?
	Maddie needs to be roasted.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think all of us, right?
	Wait, we're still on the what?
	The video?
	TikTok?
	Okay.
	Pulled up, I guess.
	Don't we have Andrew Wilson's black ex-wife roast coming in?
	I think that those.
	That's my favorite.
	Yeah.
	Mine too.
	Go ahead.
	Quick.
	Before another one comes in, go.
	Refresh.
	The Wi-Fi, though.
	No.
	No.
	Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
	Guys, go subscribe to The Crucible.
	There you go.
	Andrew Wilson.
	You already subscribed?
	Nice.
	There you go.
	The Crucible channel.
	Let's go subscribe.
	You've been learning how to argue.
	I noticed they say you're getting better at it, by the way.
	Just getting better.
	Getting better.
	He's so nice, and he's the guy that I should.
	I need a little bit of like a, you're going to send me to the psych ward, and it's just not giving that.
	Play one more time.
	Tom, just play it.
	Really good lip reading.
	Let's play it again.
	Masterful lip read.
	He's so, he's so nice, and he's the guy that I should want.
	But it should be a little bit of like a, you're going to send me to the psych ward, and it's just not giving that.
	No, they don't want nice guys.
	They want a guy who will send them to the psych ward, you know.
	It's all them daddy issues.
	It's crazy, man.
	It's crazy out here.
	What is this daddy issue shit?
	Where is this coming from?
	Because women find men that remind them of their dads.
	How is that an issue?
	Yeah.
	I mean, but what's interesting about this is you earlier said that men also are having daddy issues.
	No, men have mommy issues.
	Women have daddy issues.
	What are the men's mommy issues, Freud?
	Well, I mean, the whole rather talk to a tree than a woman because their mother probably didn't listen to them when they were growing up.
	No, I think that that's because her dad taught him.
	He apologized for insinuating your wife was promiscuous earlier, Andrew.
	He should have said your wife is promiscuous.
	Orsi-chaccent.
	Orcish.
	That doesn't really land well.
	Lol Paladins.
	Doesn't really land.
	Not French.
	They didn't hit the is properly.
	If it sounded like an Urukai, that might have been better.
	But yeah, so I think that that's actually their father's influence on him telling them not to open up from a stoic passion to women.
	It's not a good idea.
	It's not wise.
	And that women actually don't appreciate that.
	They actually don't want to really hear about men's feelings.
	They lie and say that they do, but they don't actually.
	I don't think so.
	You don't think so?
	No.
	Okay.
	Andrew is my hero.
	Makes me want to start smoking cigarettes again.
	Also, sorry you are French, Brian.
	Oh, apology.
	Wait, what?
	He's sorry that you're French and not Irish and English, like some of us in this room.
	So it's now Italian.
	It's now set to Italian.
	It's Italian now, if any of you want to send in.
	The Italian one's pretty good.
	The Italian one's damn good, I think.
	Daddy issues anyway.
	Yeah, I think it's not.
	You don't think your relationship is happening?
	Fix all the time issues.
	Should fix all the time issues.
	What were you asking, though?
	Ryan, you have to put on the Walking accent, or else the whatever podcast will crash.
	Hurry up and do it.
	You son of a bitch.
	That was a terrible accent.
	Terrible.
	I tried.
	I tried.
	It was good in the beginning.
	Could have used...
	Is that true?
	It is true.
	Yeah.
	I better watch it.
	Wait, you're debating him?
	I thought you were blessed.
	Now I'm not drunk, it's a good play that long, bro.
	Andrew's modeling career ended the same time his black wife became the ex.
	She ate.
	Australian accent even though it's not a real country.
	Valdeve donated 30 dollari.
	It's Valdeve.
	Ladies private gonna arrange first date.
	Maddie don't worry, Morgan beats me all the time, but I kind of like it.
	Brixian Israel Kausaiman Louisimp.
	I don't know if we have.
	I don't think there's an Israel accent, but there is.
	What was the Brian?
	Don't do it.
	No, but what was the requested one?
	What was the requested one?
	It was.
	Oh, Australian?
	Okay, I'll do.
	I'll put on Australian.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, boys.
	Australia.
	Fosters.
	Australian fadia.
	You call that a knife?
	This is a knife.
	Okay, where the fuck is Australian, though?
	Oh, it's English, Australian.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Hold on, boys.
	We're going to do Russell.
	Okay, Russell.
	Okay.
	Lol Paladins donated $30.
	It has nothing to do with my father or mother.
	It has everything to do with multiple women breaking up with me when I expressed any emotion at all.
	I may be stupid, but I can learn.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's exactly right here.
	Mantid donated $30.
	In the great words of the Stoic philosopher Maximus Decimus Meridius, whatever simps for all men, all men can do is simp back.
	Thank you, Manted.
	Appreciate it.
	Anon donated $31.
	The fact that you cannot or will not fathom what someone other than yourself would write you from one to ten shows you're either low IQ or too much of your self-worth hinges on that number.
	Okay, well, I would Alex donated thirty dollars.
	Can you speak Russian, please?
	Thanks.
	Can you speak Russian quick?
	I can speak Russian, what do you want to say?
	Okay.
	What is she saying?
	I can't speak Russian with me.
	Michigan Christian donated $30 as the resident waiting for marriage.
	There is no way I waited this long for some feminists tatlundaan at apat.
	Women's value is tied to their modesty.
	And yes, ID20s.
	Let the eat begin.
	Philippines.
	Okay, I changed it to Philippines.
	Jayaken donated $30.
	Let us assume for a second.
	Who let these trumpets out of the kitchen?
	Andrew, you should talk to Madison Adora about firearm training.
	BS Nick stops working.
	Nick?
	Ulysses, the pagan, donated.
	Andrew, please tell Destiny how disgusting he was.
	What he said about that fallen firefighter, American hero.
	He doesn't care.
	Wait, so Andrew, is this like a.
	Are you guys gonna do a like voice call for the debate or doing a video gate or video debate hosted by Myron Gates?
	Okay.
	So that's uh that's going on Thursday evening.
	I did request a moderator for the debate.
	Myron did volunteer.
	Destiny did not want to do it in person.
	I guess he had been receiving some threats due to his black Phoenix donated the same shime yen.
	Maddie have hold on.
	I'll pause it.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so I guess due to his current takes on the political situation, he's been receiving some threats and he doesn't want to really do anything IRL with any conservatives at the moment because he's concerned that those threats may be acted upon, which I find to be ironic, I must say, but that's what his position is.
	So when I requested a moderator, Myron said he'd moderate Destiny did agree to that moderator.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	So apparently off the black list, hopefully Andrew Wilson versus Destiny in studio whatever soon.
	That'll be awesome.
	Indeed, that'll certainly be a good debate.
	Anyways, more coming through.
	Curtis.
	Anders Kurlian, under Sky, donated the sense of Soviet girl.
	Who would you date first if you had to choose Lennon, Stalin or Putting?
	Which do you pick?
	Definitely not Lennon because he was bald.
	No, because he basically I don't like, I don't support communist ideology.
	I mean, Stalin was like kind of a babe though when he was young, but yeah, but he won the war, so wait.
	So who'd you pick?
	Putin, Stalin or Lenin?
	Oh my god, Stalin has had his issues.
	Can you google young Stalin?
	He's almost as handsome as young Andrew Laul.
	Baladin donated the Sense.
	No, ignore his attempt at garner any attention about his Trump takes.
	Instead, needle him on the things that he doesn't talk about, like his wife, leaving him for a real man.
	I don't know if that guy was a real man.
	Thank you, bro.
	Uh, do you have the photo, young Stalin?
	That's a bad.
	There's a better quality version of it.
	That's a lot of good hair to work with Stalin.
	There, we should compare your photos side by side.
	Do you have the I'm far?
	I was far better off at that age.
	Oh, shit.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	I'm gonna get it.
	One sec.
	One sec.
	All right, let me help out a little bit.
	All right, private chat this.
	Boom.
	Go ahead.
	Pull that up.
	Pull it up and then pull Andrew's photo up.
	Pull it up.
	Pull it.
	Pull it.
	All right, that's young Stalin.
	Okay.
	Looks like this.
	I mean, I don't think it's worth even.
	And then Andrew?
	Yes.
	Oh, Lenin, for sure.
	No.
	I mean, I can just answer for you.
	Young and who.
	Putin.
	Young Putin.
	Okay.
	Okay, well, you know what Putin looks like.
	Which one?
	I know they all like.
	Which one do you pick?
	Because you're Russian.
	Salin looks.
	Stalin looks.
	No, no, no.
	I mean, based off looks.
	Yeah.
	Salalik.
	Stalin.
	Stalin.
	Stalin?
	Yeah.
	Total package.
	He's the total babe package.
	Based on.
	Well, but this is not, this is a biased opinion because she can never go back to her home country again if she claims anything to the contrary, right?
	What do you mean?
	I mean, won't they like throw you in the gulag if you're if you go back and you're like beat up on Putin or Stalin?
	Won't they be kind of mad at you?
	There's no gulags.
	No more.
	Oh, come on, dude.
	Hailey Bieber.
	That's literally Haley Bieber.
	Did you say Haley Bieber?
	It's Haley Bieber.
	They look so similar.
	It's actually amazing.
	And cute, too.
	They're both so cute.
	Adorable.
	Totally.
	Valdiv donated the Sanji Benny.
	Thank you.
	Good to see you.
	Description is about thought process and the conclusions.
	Not petty personal.
	She's also since I spent another essentially buck dollar.
	Sarah Pard fucking sucks.
	Yeah, that's true.
	This is going to be a meat and potatoes debate, which I'm looking forward to.
	Good shit.
	Laura Baladin's donated the San Shi Mei Yuan.
	Also, if you want traditional ammunition for the destiny debate, watch his interview with Healthy Gay Merg.
	He's just a sad man, fragile ego.
	Maybe you'll feel sad for him, but don't crush him.
	I won't.
	Claiming to be from Australia is just ridiculous so it could get attention.
	Face it, it's the flat earther version of a country.
	I never understood where that came from.
	Andrew doesn't think Australia is a real person.
	I know why.
	I'm so glad I know why.
	She's Australian.
	Why?
	Yeah, why?
	Okay, well then explain the drop bears.
	Drop bears don't exist.
	Oh, what?
	Oh, okay.
	Sure, they don't.
	Even though every Australian I talk to talks all about the drop bears and the beady-eyed koalas, which are really just camera systems, which are set up in the trees, they move really.
	Come on, tell me another line.
	I want to hear some more.
	Oh my gosh, I think I learned about drop bears when I was like 12.
	But they're not real.
	They're just koalas.
	Drop bears don't care.
	That's ridiculous.
	Okay, so listen, I have the emperor of your nation.
	I recently did a debate with him.
	You have seen the emperor of Australia on this very program, Jake Rattlesnake, where I completely bludgeoned him in this debate.
	I asked him to pull out some Australian currency, and I'm going to ask you the same question.
	Do you have a single shred of Australian currency on you?
	I do.
	Show me.
	Oh, hold on.
	Can I actually go grab it?
	Yeah, go for it.
	I have a tenner and a five.
	She's going to be a little bit more detailed.
	Yeah, right.
	Sure, you do.
	You're gonna have British coins on here or something.
	At least Canadians have a canoe.
	Could have used a little more.
	Oh my god, so bad.
	Hold on.
	What are you trying to do?
	Spack that using the printer, Brian.
	Could have used a little more cowbell, just didn't have enough.
	Could have used a little more.
	It's so bad.
	It's so bad.
	What is that?
	It's so bad.
	This watch, your father gave me this watch for five years.
	I stuck it in my ass.
	Where's this currency?
	I want to see it.
	I've got a tax.
	That's just, that's just, that's a British pound.
	Come on.
	Stop gaslighting everybody.
	Stop gaslighting.
	Wait, can I fake ass money?
	Bullshit, fake money.
	Yeah.
	Yes, W.
	It's not worth anything here.
	Half that in dollars.
	An American, not a lot.
	I can actually have this.
	Yeah, of course.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	When you ask for something money, you say please.
	It's Soviet.
	Russia, you pay to go on whatever pot.
	So, guys, there it is, Andrew.
	Hold on.
	There's what?
	There's a British pound.
	21 million.
	That's got our Australian parliament on it.
	You went back there and you used the Photoshop machine.
	She just scribbled on our paper.
	The whole chat is saying it looks fake and looks exactly like a British pound.
	It's clear because I don't know what you're talking about.
	It's a hologram.
	The reason it's clear is that's how you tell if it's a bunch of people.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Who's that the queen of?
	Hang on.
	Who's that the queen of on that on that bill right now?
	Who is that the queen of?
	We're a constitutional monarchy, so don't we follow the queen?
	Who's that the queen of?
	England.
	Oh, the queen of who?
	England.
	Not the queen of Australia?
	Likely fucking story.
	Likely story.
	If we're going to pull up a British pound with a picture of the queen of England, tell me that that's from us.
	Okay.
	Tell me that shit.
	Shut up.
	Go ahead.
	When, if Australia actually exists, when was the Great Emu War?
	Why did that occur?
	If it's actually real.
	Yeah.
	That is not real.
	I'm so sorry.
	You think there's the Emu, there wasn't an Emu war?
	Absolutely not.
	Nick, Google that shit.
	Google it, Wikipedia.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	England happens to be on the Australian.
	He's a nuanced wildlife management military operation.
	Yeah, right.
	Okay, we'll come back, we'll come back.
	Have her DM us?
	Have her DM us on this.
	of what you sow donated $30.
	Australians lost a war against flightless birds, but for some reason think they can call Australia a country of its own.
	Stop gaslighting us.
	Stop.
	Just stop with the gas.
	It's ridiculous.
	Can you pull up the emo thing?
	Wait, so read the top for us.
	Read it.
	Make bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger.
	Make it bigger.
	Okay.
	The EMU War, or the Great EMU War, was a nuanced wildlife management military operation undertaken in Australia over the later part of 1932 to address public concern over the number of emus said to be destroying crops and to oh my gosh, what does that word say Campi, Campio district within the wheat belt of western Australia.
	Unsuccessful attempts to curb the population of emus employed Royal Australian artillery soldiers armed with Lewis guns, those are machine guns, leading the media to adopt the name Emu War.
	That is epic.
	We have never been taught this in school.
	How did you do that?
	That's because schools in England don't teach you Australian emotions, do they?
	With your English monarch on your bill.
	986 confirmed kills.
	Can we have a moment of silence for all those poor emus?
	That is hectic.
	Went to war with the local wildlife.
	Tell us.
	So unreal.
	Yeah, right.
	That's crazy.
	I'm sorry.
	Not real.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm with it.
	I'm with it now.
	Not real.
	Look, everyone goes.
	We're taking an airplane aware.
	Where do I live then?
	Exactly.
	The underschool patriarchy donates $30.
	Switch to a British accent so people can say hello to Andrew and remind him he is in a happy and monogamous relationship and he is not a cup.
	Lol Paladins, oh, yeah.
	You want your friend to have a good relationship.
	Keep her far away from Brian and his degenerate show.
	Far, away.
	Revoked.
	You lost it, bro.
	You don't get it anymore.
	Yeah, but I mean, why would you keep them away from the show?
	We can't even keep you away from sending a super chat into the show.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	You ain't got the answers, man.
	Let's see.
	Was there another one?
	what do we change it to do we change it to this is the voice is a little low I think we have to bring it to.
	Let's do South African.
	I guess we could do Sith Africa.
	I want you to note that there is one man that makes meet me on the Australian question, which is Wicked Wally.
	He did actually drub me in this debate.
	It was pretty bad.
	And he did convince me that Australia is actually real, which is upsetting to me, but I'm still going to double down on the position that it's not real anymore.
	Why don't you just come and visit it?
	No.
	So many women keep on sending me invites to Australia.
	I don't know what's going on with that.
	What if you visit New Zealand and then maybe Australia?
	Or Tasmania.
	Wait a second.
	So New Zealand also conveniently has kangaroos, doesn't it?
	Australia is as real as Americans pretending to like rugby and soccer.
	I like rugby.
	I have a rugby ball.
	Rude.
	I like rugby.
	GR underscore Gracie donated $30.
	Andrew, leave Aussies alone.
	Just because they're descended from chromosome missing cousin-loving Brits doesn't mean you should pick on those tarts.
	Can I just justify myself?
	My father was born in Greece.
	And my mother was born in Manchester.
	I was just born in Australia.
	In Australia, in Melbourne, it's like pretty miserable majority of the time.
	Like horrible.
	No, like cold.
	Yeah.
	She's a slut and she knows it.
	Oh my gosh, are you kidding?
	How do you have this?
	That's like an hour.
	So summer heights.
	Hi, Mr. G. Mr. G, that was a good show.
	HBO.
	What's his name?
	Chris Lily or Lily?
	Chris Lily.
	Lily or something.
	Yeah.
	Some crazy thing.
	Let's see.
	What's the other thing we had to talk about dating related?
	Can you tell me real quick, though, is Vegemite real?
	Is that a real thing?
	Is it a real thing?
	Vegemite, yeah, it sucks.
	Vegemite's like this salty spread that you put on toast.
	It's not fair.
	It's disgusting.
	Slip the video.
	Just get the video going.
	No, you can't do it.
	Get the video going.
	Wait, just Wait, video?
	It's fake from a fake country.
	You can actually get it.
	We've watched the grocery stores here in the late four and a few days.
	Oh, really?
	I saw American versions of Tim Tamson.
	That was the best thing ever.
	Is there something else we had there?
	Leonardo DiCaprio.
	Yeah, we could look at this Leonardo DiCaprio thing.
	Boys, I have to announce, I think he's actually finally dated a woman who's 26.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Show us the chart.
	This is breaking news, boys.
	It's very big of him.
	Chart?
	Yeah.
	We'll do chart first.
	Guys, he's never dated a woman over the age of 25.
	He just gets older.
	Wow, look at this.
	Zoom it out just a little bit.
	Oh, we'll come back to him.
	Law Paladins donated $30.
	I give my money to this show as a form of indulgence.
	Oh, thank you.
	Forgive me for my sins, Father Andrew.
	How's that schism working out for you, Orthodox people?
	Oh, shit.
	So far, so far, so good.
	We don't have to follow a guy with a big, stupid fucking hat.
	But yeah, so far, it's working pretty good.
	Oh, shit.
	Shots fired.
	Pull it up, Nick.
	All right, Leonardo DiCaprio.
	He's never dated a woman older than 25.
	So he's got a lot of exes.
	Never over Nina Agdahl, who's now pregnant with Logan Paul's child, yikes.
	At least, anyways, let's pull up his most.
	Pull up the other one.
	I thought they were just engaged.
	Pull up the other one.
	The news articles or whatever.
	Apparently, he's dating Vittoria Soretti, who is 26.
	Finally, he's dated.
	Currently?
	Yeah, he's dating.
	I think he's.
	What?
	I thought he was just dating a 19-year-old.
	Bro, he dates a lot of women, bruv.
	But I guess they're dating currently.
	And she just turned 26?
	He did it.
	He did it.
	Congratulations, Leonardo DiCaprio, for breaking.
	For, you know, breaking the win streak you have.
	He donated $30 to the ladies that claim that you're not a feminist.
	Please raise your hands if you prioritized higher education in a career over meeting a good partner.
	Feminism has lied to you.
	That's true, bro.
	That's crazy.
	I don't think anyone here is a feminist.
	That's crazy, bro.
	Actually, I think everybody here is a feminist, but I guess that would be a conversation for another time.
	But literally, in the course of this conversation, I have been able to deduce that not only are the female ministers feminists and can demonstrate that with ease, but also on the other end of the table, I think that red dress and yellow shirt are also feminist.
	And I think I could demonstrate that pretty easily.
	Spillet dress.
	Boom roasted.
	It ain't a dress.
	It's donated $30.
	Time to sing the Australian National Anthem.
	If you don't, then hashtag fake country.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you want to sing it?
	Do you want to sing the national anthem?
	Oh, my gosh.
	Australia.
	Advance Australia thing.
	I haven't sung this in years.
	You got this.
	Ah, guys.
	Australians all let us rejoice for we are young and free.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Shut up.
	Oh my gosh.
	Mike, come on.
	Keep going.
	It was great.
	You can just make up words.
	No, keep going.
	Keep going.
	I don't even know the rest of it.
	Australians.
	Aw, how convenient that you forgot the rest of your own.
	With golden soil and wealth.
	Hold on.
	Let me.
	Okay, we'll do it together.
	We'll do it together.
	All right, ready?
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Australia.
	Australians, oh, let us rejoice.
	For we are young and free.
	Oh my god, you're fucking it up.
	Hold on.
	Is that it?
	Are you trying to partner with me?
	It's just the core.
	You're in like a totally different way.
	How do you know that?
	Do I do it like deeper?
	For we are young and free.
	With golden soil.
	Wait, no, no, no, no.
	I don't think it goes there because Australians all let us rejoice.
	For we are young and free.
	No, no, no.
	All language.
	You see how there's always the cracks that bleed through so that we can see what's really going on.
	Wait, this conspiracy theory is true.
	Australians all let us rejoice for we are sing with me.
	Young and free.
	With golden soil and wealth for toil, our home is girt by sea.
	Our land about in nature's gifts of beauty, rich and rare.
	Australia.
	Not in history's page.
	Let every sage advance Australia fair.
	I can't believe I did this.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	That was amazing.
	Yeah.
	I didn't know it.
	I watch rugby, so.
	Oh.
	Tri-Nations.
	From the fake country.
	The only countries worth watching for rugby.
	Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand.
	What's the question?
	What's the question?
	No, I said there you go.
	So, therefore, isn't it real?
	There I go.
	What?
	You couldn't even sing your own national anthem.
	Boom, and you showed us a bill that had England's queen on it.
	And I'm supposed to be convinced by this evidence.
	Really?
	Would you be convinced by the evidence of a person who showed you a bill with a monarch from another nation who couldn't even recite their own national anthem?
	Would you actually be convinced by this evidence?
	Don't Canadians.
	Yeah, it's a pretty compelling argument.
	Hang on.
	Yeah, it's pretty compelling.
	It's pretty compelling.
	It's pretty damn compelling.
	Pretty damn compelling.
	Before we.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Did I pause it?
	I did pause it.
	Okay.
	Fanny donated fierce undreisig dollar.
	I will gladly donate.
	Used to say I'm an American and I proudly say I prefer to watch them play soccer over our football.
	Hate me are you want?
	Soccers international for a reason.
	Gail Panano mum donate the sanctuary yuan for the girls that believe in Australia.
	I can get you a really good deal on the Golden Gate Bridge.
	Okay.
	Thank you, bro.
	That's beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Joe Brandon donated the San Shi Seme Yuan.
	It's Jade the Pinkett Smith a demon.
	She's possessed for sure, for sure.
	For sure, for sure.
	They always start looking reptilian.
	That's when you know.
	For sure.
	For sure.
	Laura Baladin's donate to the Sen Shi Me Yuan.
	Go easy on the AC girl.
	It's not like she ever gets to hear her national anthem at the Olympics.
	She probably thinks the lyrics start with O say, can you see?
	By the dawn's only light.
	RPR donate the San Shi Mei Yuan.
	Andrew, I wanna hear you sing our national anthem for America.
	Oh, say, can you see that Australia's not real?
	That all the people who come from there are a bunch of lying, grifting fucks.
	Is that what I did?
	There are two more verses.
	That's good.
	She liked it.
	I feel like I got, I feel like I got close.
	Did I get close?
	It's good.
	You were a little off key, but it was fine.
	Hey, you know what?
	I thought I did better than she did keying in her national.
	No, her and Brian harmonizing changed my life.
	I think that was amazing.
	They harmonized, and I actually love it.
	TTS is now TTS is now 20.
	1999 for like 10 minutes, and then we'll wrap the show.
	So we'll wrap at midnight or so, ish.
	Ish.
	So if you want, get it in.
	We lowered it, you know, save.
	Bumble segment?
	Nah, we won't do.
	I don't think the viewers like it.
	Do they?
	What do you guys think?
	No, don't do it.
	I've watched so many shows.
	This bumble session is so boring.
	So boring.
	It's so boring.
	Everyone just says no, yes.
	And then you guys take three hours to dissect why they say no.
	I think it's so bad.
	The way we should do it, instead of like one by one, it's just like the girls.
	So we, all the girls, they all get 20 swipes at the same time.
	Hmm.
	No, because then you're going to go around the table and ask each one, right?
	Like, what do you think of this?
	Oh, no, we'd have to have like a second.
	And then it will take three hours.
	No, it's not.
	And that's why the people don't like it.
	It's short.
	It's like, no, it makes conversation.
	I can't read the chat, man.
	Yeah, isn't that something about some girl named Erika?
	Wait, what?
	Yeah, the Soviet anthem.
	Isn't that about a girl named Erica or something?
	That's a German.
	Law Paladins donate Archer Malin.
	I'm not guy that Aisha Bach is Aishbach.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Appreciate it, bruv.
	I'm going to change it to.
	Who do we want?
	What's like a, we haven't done.
	We did.
	I'll do French.
	We'll go back to French.
	Please, I'll be back.
	It was serenading me.
	In fact, Law Paladins.
	L'Ore Paladin donated Vandola.
	I'm not guy but van Bucks is van Bucks.
	Thank you, Lopalans.
	We have Aquatic coming in here in just a moment.
	Thank you guys all so much for the TTS.
	Air, air, aquatic, donated $20.
	How to sing it's fast, I've never seen that man before.
	Ease, E, A, A. How much does somebody have to...
	He's from Australia.
	How much does someone have to donate for a Nick face reveal?
	I think it's 500.
	That's like no, no, not 500.
	Sorry, Nick's not a fan.
	Yeah, he is.
	Don't be mute.
	He's very handsome.
	Is it a champagne pop or is it a 500 for face reveal?
	Nick face for a reveal.
	Champagne's good.
	You don't want to do face reveal?
	No, it's been revealed, though.
	He looks like he could be a hair model.
	Nick could be a hair model.
	We should do a hair reveal.
	Nick, can you just.
	Here.
	For $500, we'll do a hair reveal.
	So you'll just do the Matty thing where you're just in front, but you'll just pop up enough for us to see your hair.
	Yeah.
	What do you think, Nick?
	No.
	Oh, come on, Nick.
	Will he get that money directly to his partner?
	Somebody donates it here.
	I'll give him, I'll buy him an Indonau burger.
	I'll give him, you know what?
	I'll give him this fake money.
	Okay.
	Uh, okay.
	What the fuck is that?
	What the fuck?
	What?
	Okay.
	Out here in Amish.
	What?
	Amish country?
	I don't know.
	Let's do one more dating question.
	So, what's everybody's type?
	Are we doing it in order?
	Good morning from UK.
	Wishing you guys a lovely day, full of productive debate.
	Big fan of the show.
	Congratulations on the baby Morgan.
	Thanks.
	Congrats, Morgan.
	Nick's beautiful fast available if you subscribe to the Patreon.
	It's true.
	You can see his face in like some of the kickout clips that we post on Patreon.
	Discord.gg/slash whatever, patreon.com slash whatever.
	If you do want to see Nick's face, Roseanne Barr, when did she sing the national anthem?
	That's a good sounds awful.
	That's like French wrestlers singing it.
	Her lips are real.
	Moing Justice League, Brian, if you see it, you will understand.
	About as real as her lips?
	I really do have a gorgeous nose.
	Black Phoenix donated $20.
	Maybe if you don't hold it, baby, right?
	You got me spending our child support money.
	Bruh, I was, but they said it was look like I was breastfeeding, so I stopped.
	That's actually fine to do on stream now.
	You can breastfeed on stream.
	If you're a man, even if you're a man, especially.
	Especially if you're a man.
	I'll pass.
	But also acceptable if you're a woman.
	I'll pass.
	My type of man is strong, kind of dad-bought a little bit, but he has to be strong.
	Big shoulders, big arms, of course.
	GR sottolineatura Gracie donated 20 dollari 20 bucks this is the street club equivalent to a power Scalio utudiechi.
	Rather sandwich making skis.
	Tigard.
	Your future depends on this.
	My dad's a fan.
	Are every woman's sandwich making skills also attend?
	Yeah, mine are.
	My dad is a chef.
	Of course.
	No, my dad was a chef.
	He really was.
	Head's chef of Microsoft.
	All right, well, then let's find out if this is true.
	What kind of bread?
	What is the perfect bread?
	It depends on the sandwich.
	What do you mean it's fresh?
	I got you, bro.
	I would rate my sandwich making an eight.
	My husband loves my grilled cheese.
	Mount Niata Crystal donated $20.
	Animals as dead bodies are just sextils for poor people.
	And the voice is not where are these poor people finding these dead bodies.
	That's a yikes.
	Joe Murphy donated $30.
	They rusky is scared to save Putin because of the political situation.
	We know she would run with Putin at the Bolshevi Theater in the presidential suite of Verlin and Stalin.
	That's not true.
	What actually?
	I picked Stalin.
	It's English, but like a fucking kid.
	I don't like that voice.
	It's something about it.
	I'm changing it.
	I don't know.
	I just picked Just.
	His name's Justin.
	I just picked Justin.
	Oh my gosh, my brother's name.
	His name's Justin.
	I don't know.
	I was just playing around with the different voices.
	I'm going back to the Chinese lady.
	You don't like it, Morgan?
	You don't like Chinese?
	French was the best.
	We need a dating.
	Oh, who did anybody?
	Your type, everybody?
	It is football.
	Play with your feet.
	Why complicate a simple thing such as football with soccer?
	Keys, Brazilian here.
	I can make the about claim due to the World Cups.
	I'm pretty sure England is the one that named football football.
	And both like American football.
	Nice.
	My guy, I like the silver fox.
	Good time.
	Exactly.
	Do you have daddy issues?
	Oh my gosh.
	My husband is really like my dad.
	Oh.
	Word.
	Michigan Christian donated $20.
	Brian, as a former assassination rogue that spent many hours at the R after raiding, I really respect your goblin skills.
	Also, I recommend to all men to stop playing games and find your purpose/slash skill.
	Silver runless core Amsterdam donated $20.1 cent.
	Godi Morgan from Amsterdam.
	Bro, now I'm going to be a little bit more.
	Wishing y'all a hearty, beautiful week ahead.
	In Dutch, cheers Zilva.
	I'm going to have to change it to Dutch, bro.
	Is that Hope Y'all are Chilling donated $69?
	So I'm 5'6 and am filtered out on dating apps.
	And when it comes to meeting women, Earl, I'm invisible.
	I strive for self-improvement, and my goals, one of which is a family.
	How can I improve my dating odds?
	We will answer that in just a moment.
	Hope y'all are chilling.
	I will get back to it.
	I just need to re-trigger the money.
	I've been to Amsterdam three times.
	One of my favorite cities.
	Thank you, man.
	Also, I really like the Dutch accent.
	C2 donated $20.
	Why do we ask women if they want kids and not if they have opted out of being a mother instead?
	It shouldn't be opt-in.
	It's literally our only biological imperative.
	And yes, some women say they don't want to be mothers.
	Lol Paladins donated $20.
	No, not the Chinese.
	I hate the Chinese voice, much like Madison.
	We all know her type, and it's not Chinese.
	Not even Chinese, guys.
	It's racist.
	Yeah, she's black Irish.
	You don't even look Chinese.
	Totally.
	What are you talking about?
	I'm racist.
	No, they're racist.
	Hope y'all are chilling.
	He says he's 5'6 and he gets filtered out on dating apps.
	When it comes to meeting women, Irel, he's invisible.
	He strives for self-improvement.
	My goals, one of which is a family, how can I improve my dating odds?
	What are your parents?
	Date short chicks?
	You gotta date short chicks, man.
	You gotta go short.
	Kind of Filipino girl.
	Although the short chicks want tall guys.
	So you're kind of maybe passport bro.
	You gotta be a passport pro.
	Do you like Asian women?
	You like South American Latina women?
	You gotta passport pro this shit.
	All they want is your wallet.
	That's not true.
	No, sort of true.
	You know it's true.
	You know it's true.
	It's different from American women.
	I think that there are a lot that are like that, but I'm just saying, why go all the way over there to just have women better?
	Well, if all they want is the wallet, and all American women want is the wallet, but the women over there will take the wallet, but at least give you respect and treat you decently, then why wouldn't you do that?
	I mean, trust me, I understand this deeper than you probably know.
	My dad moved to the Philippines and he married a woman over there.
	W, your dad.
	Yeah, and she does take good care of him.
	So trust me, I do understand that.
	But I also know a lot more of the information by talking to her.
	And she's very real about people's women's intentions there.
	But at the end of the day, you do get something for your money.
	Do get someone that will actually take care of you.
	So I would say there's a lot of people.
	I'm just being real, man.
	I'm just being real.
	Just keep it real.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but when keeping it real goes wrong.
	Is that like a quote or something?
	I don't.
	Is that like beach?
	Chappelle.
	I don't know.
	Marcus Realis or something.
	Yeah.
	I would say work out because muscles are hot no matter how tall you are.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Get fit, bro.
	Get shredded.
	Just go into more social settings.
	Chinese lady donated $20.
	Women, modesty means you have beauty and power.
	And you use that to teach men how to love you for the right reasons.
	Musical notes.
	Raise your hands and touch your toes.
	If anything shows, go change your clothes.
	Musical notes.
	Boom, I passed that one.
	That's a pretty good little song.
	That's a good one.
	Thank you.
	That's a good song.
	That was beautiful.
	My outfit passes through.
	Does it pass the raise your hands test?
	It's good.
	Bend and snap.
	I like that.
	I guess more advice to this guy.
	Is he having a bad idea?
	Have you tried masturbating?
	I don't know.
	Sometimes you just got busted in that map.
	No.
	Dang.
	No.
	Go north.
	Like on the dating app, he wants more advice on how to be more successful on the app, which is like a map.
	Listen, I'm just quoting Tupac.
	I'm just quoting Tupac.
	We gotta go back to the OG penitentiary days and just start jacking off.
	No.
	Okay, all right.
	Sorry, that was cringe.
	You really thought you ate with that one.
	I ate, bro.
	I could.
	I could.
	Yeah, no.
	Go out on social settings.
	But if you're trying to get away from that, Nyrus donated $20.
	35 Yo here.
	Met my Filipino wife, 36 Yo, 13 years ago.
	Dated for one week and moved in together.
	Together since then.
	We both stated what we wanted from day one.
	We also have two young boys now and a little dog.
	Congrats, bro.
	Congrats.
	That's good for all of you.
	Wait, wait.
	Why are we congratulating him on the little dog thing, though?
	You don't like dogs anyway?
	Little dog.
	Not the little dog.
	Isn't Andrew a little dog?
	He said a little dog.
	That's like, you know, a shihhzu or a toy poodle or a dog.
	But they exist, so we're a corgi.
	They exist.
	So some people have to take care of them.
	You can just let them die.
	You don't like Jack Russell Terriers, bro?
	Jack Russell Terriers are rude.
	I had one.
	What about the little hot dog dogs?
	There's no sausage dog in the middle.
	Dachshunds?
	Okay, a wiener dog.
	I'll make exceptions for dachshunds.
	But the rest of them, they get rid of all of them.
	They have to be hyper-allergenic, though, right?
	I like a wiener dogs are cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's a dachshund.
	They're actually pretty aggressive.
	Oh, that's what it's like.
	I haven't seen that feisty.
	I don't know if I've seen a wiener dog.
	You ever think about that?
	I've never seen a wiener dog.
	They have horrible health issues because they're not.
	You've never seen a winener dog.
	I don't think I've seen one.
	They're first red to look a certain way, and it just damages their brain.
	I saw it on Toy Story.
	That's it.
	I don't have a small designer breed dog.
	Yeah, they have horrible health issues.
	It's crazy.
	Well, I mean, dachshunds are awesome.
	They used to send them down to kill shit.
	They used to put them in holes of animals and they would go into the whole.
	That's what they were bred to do.
	But like toy poodles and those types of animals, yeah, they just.
	I know they were bred to that.
	It still comes with a lot of joint problems.
	Yeah, but that's the same thing with any breed.
	Like, if you want to work your bread, you're going to have health issues.
	Right, it's worth with some.
	I'm not saying why is there a big black line on your screen?
	Don't be ridiculous.
	Oh, I thought you were about to say something.
	Silverundus Corps Amsterdam donated $20.12.
	Lady in Vermilion read, sorry that you feel so about passport brother's pool.
	Eastern Asian females, Latin ones are more homely priorities, family and God.
	They make home sweet home.
	Little dogs are annoying.
	Damn, bro.
	Annoying.
	They can be if they're not trained properly.
	You know what's really crazy?
	Do you have a dog paw tattoo?
	I knew it.
	I can tell.
	I mean, it's a wolf, but anyway.
	I asked this question last show and nobody really answered it.
	So, season of wait, no, House of the Dragon, season two's out.
	Gonna go watch that shit after this.
	So, you are the princess.
	You're the princess.
	And Lol Paladins donated $20.
	A. Stop asking women for advice.
	Don't ask a fish how to catch fish.
	You ask a fisherman.
	Being short can be compensated for.
	Become wealthy.
	Become shredded with muscles.
	killer mentality serious.
	I'm pretty sure sharks kill more fish than you do.
	Brian is in pain.
	Can someone give him a neck/slash shoulder massage?
	Also, Brian keeps rating himself as a five, but could have lost the weight by now.
	What's stopping you?
	In and out.
	Hey, bro, why you gotta throw me under the bus?
	Uh, I don't know, man.
	Can I obfuscate?
	Conpiracy Carl donated $20.
	Brian, go ahead.
	I just want to obfuscate quickly from the Brian weight loss nonsense into the idea that you shouldn't ask a fish how to catch.
	Wouldn't you ask a fish if you could how to catch other fish?
	Wouldn't that be like the optimal thing to do?
	Yes.
	I would think the optimal thing to do if you were a fisherman and could ask a fish like the dolphin lady who was on this show.
	If I wanted to capture dolphins, wouldn't I ask dolphins the best way to do that?
	It's pretty simple.
	I don't actually understand that.
	Yeah, it's pretty simple.
	If I was going to want to know what, let's say, Brian likes, I would ask Brian, what do you like?
	Right.
	So it doesn't make sense to ask Morgan what a man would like when I could just ask a man.
	Bless you.
	Sante.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Can Pirace Carl donated $20.
	Brian, would you like to bet my wiener dog?
	It doesn't bite.
	It was bred to have no health issues.
	And it's very, very soft.
	Anyways, any Russian ladies want a Canadian citizenship?
	I love Jesus.
	Yeah, is that why you're asking a man to pet your wiener?
	Do you want to respond?
	I mean, I won't say no.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	How secure is this four-month relationship?
	I was like vegan all the weed, isn't it?
	He's an awesome man.
	Isn't it Daspat?
	He's not here.
	Oh, he is here.
	He was here when she was in the house.
	He dropped her off.
	He looks like a model from a hole.
	He lives in the space.
	Yeah, yeah.
	He wanted to come up.
	No, he's too young for me.
	But like, you would.
	I can recognize beauty and not say I want to hit him.
	I don't believe in physical violence against men, Brian.
	Of course.
	No, of course.
	Nyrex donated $20.
	Come on, Andrew.
	You must respect Jack, my dog.
	He is a black and white, mixed Yorkshire terrier and Maltese equals more key.
	I also had sugar gliders our pets before.
	Bro, they're so good.
	So you donated $20.
	Ladies, raise your hands if you agree.
	Brian is the most convincing trans man you've ever seen.
	What the fuck?
	That's a new one.
	Uh no, you dom blank fish.
	Don't talk.
	And listening to a woman is equally damn bro.
	Oh no, you dumb, fuck the hypothetical back.
	Was it okay?
	So think about how stupid this is both ways.
	Wait what?
	You don't ask a fish how to catch a fish.
	This infers that you can't ask a fish how to catch a fish, but it would not infer that you couldn't ask a woman how to catch a woman.
	You stupid bastard.
	That's one second.
	If you could, within the hypothetical, ask a fish how to catch a fish, why wouldn't you?
	If you could yeah, you gotta figure out which bait works best true, all right, we must suck to always be inferior to me than all paladins, but it's good for you to learn this shit now.
	Okay, go go, go quick.
	Once Madison's back, we're gonna wrap the show.
	All right.
	She is her.
	She said she got some butter on her hands.
	I don't know what was going on under the table.
	All right.
	Who are we gonna?
	We're gonna do.
	I'm just gonna prep a raid here.
	We're gonna do on YouTube.
	We're gonna raid Andrew on Twitch.
	We're going to raid.
	We got Roe.
	Whoa, Grandma, no.
	We're gonna do Frostadamus.
	We will raid that gentleman in Romania telling me he shouldn't try to hook up with Link Up, excuse me, with Andrew Tate.
	Okay.
	Wait, hold on.
	There's some coming through, though.
	Ripped Rich and Rare donated $20.
	Brian, how does it feel to have a big titty single mom simp Grifta sucking up and kissing your ass just because you have shit tons of subscribers?
	Fat boy, jiggle them big old titties.
	Jigdalem, big titties.
	Why would he talk about Brian's Baggage Podcast donated $20?
	So, Brian, you said on a previous show you said you made nine-tenths girls climax.
	So your body count is 10.
	You also said you're not religious, so why use the excuse to not share?
	T1 Foons donated $20.
	W Nick Andrew Maddie Morks and Brixon.
	Andrew, you'll make light work of Strip and Aim on Thursday.
	If any of you believe in the right to vote for women, you are a feminist.
	I do not believe women should vote.
	Also, all right, cool.
	So, uh, it sounds like an Andrew argument about the body count thing.
	I can't reveal the body count, but I mean why not?
	Does it matter?
	Um, wait, but if there was a ratio, then yes, it would it was nine out of ten.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy, donated twenty dollars.
	Brian would be rated higher if he finally shaved his arms.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	I don't even, I'm not really hitting that hair.
	Men should be hairy.
	What the heck?
	What the fuck?
	Real men donated $20.
	I'm not talking about hypotheticals.
	I'm talking about actionable advice.
	Literally talking to a fish is literally as useful as literally talking to a woman.
	If you want to learn how to get more sex, have you ever talked to a fish?
	That's a damn thing.
	Damn, that is going to be a good one.
	Thanks for the $200, but let her cook.
	I feel like the fucker got me on this one a little bit.
	I had a really good rejoinder, but it would have just been sophistry.
	But I kind of feel like Lol Paladins kind of won that exchange, which upsets me.
	But next time, next time, Conspiracy Carl donated $20.
	This is all well and good, but when can we start birthing babies in laps and having one asexual gender?
	I think that would be optimal.
	Anyways, would you like to bet my wiener dog?
	It goes woof.
	Woof?
	If you want, get your last chats in because we're going to wrap up the show.
	Went a little longer than I wanted to, but we are going to raid Andrew.
	We are going to do a raid on Twitch.
	So if you want, get your last TTSs in.
	Before I do that, oh, the.
	I'm not going to do the Game of Thrones thing.
	Okay.
	GG, well played to the panel.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific with another dating talk, possibly a Twitch exclusive stream tomorrow.
	Possibly.
	But we got to figure that out after the show.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Blaze.
	Barbara Gray Wolf38 donated $20.
	Hot tick, require all people to register for draft to vote at 18.
	If you don't, you can't.
	Period.
	That would at least prevent a large swatch of the our word lips from voting.
	Why?
	Born-again virgins have plenty of room for the Holy Spirit after they've already had no trouble making room for 100 dicks.
	Holy Nyrix donated $20.
	Brian, upon analyzing the Your Body via the stream, we from the Use to Be Fit Association would like to inform you that we have accepted your application.
	Welcome to the Dad Body Club.
	Local Paladins donated $20.
	Maddie, if I wanted to talk to a fish, it wouldn't be your mouth that would be moving.
	GGO7 chat.
	What does that mean?
	Don't know what that means.
	He's talking about China.
	What?
	What?
	How?
	What?
	I can't get to that.
	He's talking about it.
	Oh, the thing.
	Okay.
	Oh, Twitch raid.
	Cool.
	Okay, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	Thank you for watching over there on Twitch.
	Oh, really quick.
	Just pull up the Twitch thing.
	Guys, drop us a follow before we do a raid.
	Drop us a follow.
	Really quick, really quick, guys.
	Just check if you have a Prime sub available.
	Check if you have a Prime sub available.
	Guys, it's been 27 minutes since we last got a Prime.
	Help, help, help.
	I think it's bugged, so help.
	Test it out.
	But yeah, drop us a follow.
	If you're watching on YouTube, go over there.
	Just drop us a follow.
	We might be doing a Twitch exclusive stream tomorrow and Wednesday.
	We're going to aim to do these.
	Wait, yeah, we're going to aim to do these Monday, Wednesday.
	So just the two days after we do our dating talks.
	07's in the chat over there on Twitch.
	I'm going to raid Frost Adamas.
	Nick, if you can pull Frost Adamus up and get that guy going.
	Elixir.
	All right.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	I'm going to send it right over right now.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	That at my sister's wedding.
	He is playing.
	He's playing World of Warcraft.
	Fresh.
	He's playing Fresh.
	Brian.
	We're the big host.
	Holy smokes.
	That's a huge host.
	Welcome, everyone.
	Baxton.
	Pop test.
	What is a raiding name?
	Aldo.
	Hello.
	Let me give a big shout to Brian.
	We send you a few of you.
	Just woke up.
	He's in Romania.
	He's in Romania.
	I literally shot Brian, so I need a sip of coffee.
	All right.
	He's in Romania.
	Yeah, he just woke up.
	It's early there.
	9 a.m. or some shit.
	Okay, so that's done.
	And then any final thoughts before we wrap up from anybody?
	Final speak now forever.
	Hold your peace.
	Yeah, I would like to thank all of the gals who came on the panel this evening.
	Even to my Protestant friend over there who we've engaged with before, I always do appreciate the spirited engagements.
	I have no personal animosity towards any of you.
	I'm just kind of here for the arguments.
	And I appreciated that you guys were trying to engage and be good faith.
	That's the most I can ask.
	Women belong in ministry.
	That's my final thought.
	No, they don't.
	Absolutely not under no circumstances.
	That's my final thoughts, but I do still appreciate you having the engagement.
	Who said no, they don't?
	I did.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	There they go.
	That's my number.
	I mean, the Mormon Bible, if we're comparing it to whatever the Bible is that you're reading, must be far more right than whatever the Bible is that you're reading.
	So because they at least have that right.
	So, just pointing this out, and that's the Mormon Bible.
	That's like Joseph Colt Eater Bible.
	No, the King James King James.
	I think we're all caught up.
	I just want to make sure we're not missing any chats.
	No, we're all good.
	All right, guys.
	07's in the chat.
	I hope you guys have a good night.
	We're sending you over to Andrew.
	He's going to stream for a little bit longer.
	So go drop a sub over on Andrew's channel.
	Andrew, thank you for joining us.
	Thank you again to the panel.
	Hope you guys have a good night.
	Hope you enjoy House of the Dragon.
	Good night, guys.
	We'll see you Tuesday.

▲