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Armpit Hair Feminist HEATED DEBATE?! 100+ Body Count?! MASSIVE COPE?! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #168

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	With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hello.
	So my name is Bobby Lavender.
	I'm 30 years old, just turned 30.
	Okay, all right.
	I live in Louisiana.
	I'd rather not say what part, particularly.
	I am, wait, what was the questions again?
	Name, age, location, and occupation.
	Oh, that part.
	I've been, oh, sorry.
	I've been on OnlyFans for like four years now, basically since the pandemic.
	And I also, that's full-time, and I part-time cam model on MyFreeCams.
	And you're 30, right?
	How long have you been involved with the adult content stuff?
	Since I moved out at 19.
	Okay, so for most of your working life then?
	Yeah, I've not, well, my first ever job before I was even 18, I was a janitor.
	Oh, okay.
	And I sold crawfish too.
	It's Louisiana, you know.
	Like a janitor for a school or an office?
	Okay.
	Yeah, an office.
	It was actually a pest control office.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, I am Tavia.
	I'm 22 and I'm from Pennsylvania and I'm a freelance model and I do OnlyFans.
	All right, welcome.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name's Alyssa.
	I'm 27 and I'm a realtor in Austin and I have a bunch of like side hustles too, like grocery delivery, nannying, stuff like that.
	All right.
	What about you?
	My name is Skye.
	I'm from San Diego, California.
	And I'm an environmental health specialist.
	I'm 24.
	All right.
	Environmental health specialist.
	What's that?
	So I am like a health inspector, but I don't do food inspections.
	I do like chemical inspections.
	Okay.
	So what, like a typical day on the job, are you just going to different locations, doing inspections, making sure there's not like any sulfuric acid?
	Yeah, that they're not going to blow up on any given day.
	So yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm Juliette.
	I am from Denver, Colorado.
	I'm 38 and I work in marketing.
	All right.
	Welcome.
	I'm Corinne.
	I'm 45 years old.
	I live in West Hollywood.
	And I am a writer, comedian, and podcaster.
	Okay.
	Maddie, you can say that.
	My name's Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm from San Diego.
	I now live in Santa Barbara.
	I work for the Whatever Podcast, and I'm a student at Santa Barbara City College.
	All right, welcome, everybody.
	So, guys, sorry we were a little late there.
	We had two, we had some people flake, and then we had a no-show.
	Just I could get into the details of the bullshittery that you got to deal with behind the scenes.
	But anyways, we're down about two seats, but it's all good.
	We have a very fantastic panel, regardless.
	So, going around the table once more, what's everybody's current relationship status?
	So, are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule sex, cold harem, whatever it may be?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you?
	I'm in a relation, I'm in a monogamous-ish relationship now for three years, and I'm so ADD.
	The longest, well, this is my longest relationship.
	Long, okay, this is your longest.
	And you said it's open-ish.
	What does that mean?
	Well, since I like create content, sometimes I collab.
	And I'm also pretty open, like in the right circumstances, with the right boundaries.
	Sorry, with the right circumstances and with the right boundaries and like communication.
	Like, I'm also okay with my man seeing other people or us having like three swims and all these.
	Okay, so you're saying like when you shoot content, you'll shoot content with other men.
	I've only done with other men four times, and it was for a only four times only four times.
	It was for a company, like a mainstream company, and that's the first time I ever tried that.
	And I will not be doing it again.
	Okay, and then it's not like necessarily a bad experience, it's just not for me.
	And then, outside of work, are you like, are you sleeping with other men outside of work?
	Oh, no, I don't want to.
	But your boyfriend, he's sleeping with other women.
	No, he isn't.
	I mean, one time, my friend, and it was cool, but it's not like a regular shit.
	You're going to leave that up forever, Nick?
	I'm hearing some static.
	Some static?
	I know that's one person that says it's not terrible.
	Okay, hold on.
	Pull up the chat, please.
	Pull up the chat.
	Guys, did you guys hear any audio issues or anything?
	You guys hearing any audio issues?
	Let's see if I can comment.
	Nick, did you turn off three?
	are wild uh okay people are saying I'll keep an eye on that.
	Hold on.
	The chat is saying that there's static.
	One sec, guys.
	We're just going to troubleshoot this audio thing, so can my mods just message me and tell me if you guys are hearing static?
	It stopped.
	Maybe it was from fucking this thing.
	I'm fucking.
	I got a goddamn.
	Is that like a Tesla thing?
	You want to test it?
	It's what is this?
	It's called a Tesla coil or it's a plasma.
	I think it's plasma.
	I think the plasma was like.
	Here, let me move that shit away from my mic.
	Okay.
	It should be better.
	Pull up the chat.
	Let me just double.
	Yeah, I just listened to it.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let's do a little test.
	Let me put this shit right next to the fucking.
	Did you guys hear that?
	Oh, wait, I don't know if that's.
	I don't.
	Is it worse now?
	Okay, I don't know.
	I don't hear.
	Whatever.
	Anyways.
	Oh, I forgot where we were.
	I was talking to you about seeing other guys.
	I'm not seeing any other guys.
	I'm more interested in my, like, my relationship with my man.
	I don't want to see other guys, but I'm bisexual, so I like seeing other women.
	My preference for collabs is other women.
	Like I said, when I'm orchestrating it myself, it's always other women or trans women.
	And then the only time I did with men was for a main.
	Okay, and is he seeing he's not seeing anyone?
	Like I said, we're monogamish.
	There's certain circumstances and we actually haven't had that yet.
	Oh, I thought you mentioned something about threesomes.
	I would be cool with it.
	Yeah.
	Did anybody else hear that?
	Yeah, I said, like, I, well, no, I think I mentioned it earlier, but I would be cool with it.
	We plan on doing it.
	You haven't had that?
	We actually live like kind of in the middle of nowhere, Louisiana, so we have to travel to like make work like to for me.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm talking to someone right now, talking stage.
	My longest relationship was a year.
	What am I missing?
	How long have you, how long has the talking stage been going on?
	Almost three months now.
	Three months.
	Okay.
	And before that, were you, did you consider yourself single or?
	Before that, yeah, I've been single for since November.
	So a few months now.
	Okay.
	So talk.
	Salu Brian Sarva donated $69.
	As always, Maddie is a 10.
	Welcome back, Helmut Girl.
	Brian, I'm happy you're using the old intro where you introduce yourself.
	It flows nicely and much more elegant.
	Hello, ladies.
	I don't know if I ever stopped doing this.
	Yeah, you did stop.
	I noticed.
	What do you mean I stopped?
	Like lately you weren't saying I forgot.
	No, I changed.
	So I changed it a little bit.
	But it wasn't this.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Well, in any case, thank you, man.
	Appreciate the TTS.
	Thank you, dude.
	Salou.
	So you were saying you've been single for...
	Since November.
	November, okay.
	Talking stage three months.
	How did you guys meet?
	We met in Miami.
	Into Mike Kindly.
	You guys met in Miami?
	So in person, it wasn't like from a dating app or anything like that?
	In person.
	Okay.
	And so, and remind me, you live also in Miami or Pennsylvania.
	Oh, Pennsylvania.
	So this is a long-distance talking stage.
	So how often do you see him?
	It really depends on what my work schedule looks like, but I try to see him at least once a month.
	Maybe I'll come to LA for like a week or two.
	When's the last time you saw him?
	About a month ago.
	Okay, one month ago.
	And do you want this to be more than a talking stage?
	Have you guys had like a convo about title or anything?
	Yeah, we're just getting to know each other and taking away.
	Wait, so yeah, you have had a conversation about title?
	Yeah, but we're just getting to know each other and like we're just in that stage right now, like going on dates, seeing what's up.
	Who initiated that conversation about what is this title?
	Him or you?
	Neither.
	I think it's just been like mutual, like just talking, getting to know each other.
	But you said there was a conversation about what is this?
	Are we boyfriend, girlfriend?
	I guess it was me.
	It was you.
	And then you said, we're just seeing where things are going.
	Well, I was saying I was interested, but I just want more time to kind of...
	You do or he does?
	Me.
	I do.
	So then why did you ask for a title?
	I didn't ask for a title, but I was interested in the past.
	But you had the conversation, right?
	The potential of it and that I'm interested in going forward.
	What did he say when you brought that up?
	He was interested as well.
	He was interested in being boyfriend and girlfriend.
	Continuing to see each other and seeing where it goes.
	So you said, I want, did you say anything like, I want something more serious?
	No.
	Oh, okay.
	So how specifically did you phrase this conversation?
	Well, it's kind of complicated because I was like, okay, I really like you and was impulsive.
	And I was like, I think we should date.
	And then I went home and I was like, oh, that was impulsive.
	And I need more time to get to know you.
	So let's actually go backwards, backwards, spend more time.
	Yeah.
	I'm so young.
	Okay.
	Right?
	So, I mean, kind of sounds like you want a little bit more than he does.
	Is that fair to say?
	I don't know.
	I think it's definitely equal.
	It's definitely equal.
	It's an equal.
	But it's more of me, like me being hesitant, like not being completely sure yet if I want that yet.
	So.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So technically, I'm legally separated, but I consider myself single.
	So you're legally married then?
	Yes.
	Well, but no, actually, I'm legally separated.
	Like, I moved from the house.
	So, like, when I filed taxes and stuff, it's.
	But you're not divorced.
	No, but soon.
	You're in the process of getting a divorce, but you're still not yet divorced.
	Right.
	So, and is this a pretty recent occurrence?
	Okay, so sort of.
	I mean, I officially filed in February.
	I wanted out of my marriage the last several years and made it very obvious, but Texas will not finalize divorces when you're pregnant, and I was pregnant for two years in a row.
	So then I had to, like, recover and everything.
	In December, is when I was like, okay, I'm getting out of here one way or another.
	And I didn't get the money to do so until February, and then I moved out in March.
	But he's just like dodged being served, which is crazy because he's seeing somebody.
	And I've talked to people since and stuff.
	So I don't know why his girlfriend is not like, sign the papers, but yeah.
	And wait, so how long, when did you meet him?
	At what age did you meet him?
	I was 22.
	And you're 27 currently, is correct?
	Yes.
	So you were, how long were you married for?
	Three years.
	Three years.
	So you were dating for like two years, got married.
	And how old are your kids?
	One and two.
	One and two.
	Okay.
	And why you're you initiated the divorce or yes.
	Okay.
	Why?
	So I have to be a little bit careful just because we do have children and I don't want to ever like negatively impact their view of their dad should he ever decide to have a relationship with them.
	But you know, he, I'm.
	I know everybody thinks they know a narcissist.
	Any asshole is not a narcissist.
	They have a very specific playbook.
	And I'm, I believe, and my therapist believes, though she can't like officially diagnose someone who's not her client, that he has NPD.
	So all of the things associated with that were issues.
	Okay.
	But I just don't want my kids to ever watch this maybe one day and then be like, you know, because if they can have a good relationship with him, I would like to protect them from all that.
	In terms of the custody of the children, do you guys share or are they just with you?
	When I filed for divorce, he stopped having anything to do with them.
	$6,969, blah, blah, blah.
	$69 donated $69.
	Yep.
	My spring plebey-like.
	Oh, that's a different one.
	There you go.
	Look at that.
	She's doing the first when I motorboat.
	Damn, Tiger Teeters, it'd be like at a Trura.
	Wow.
	That's good.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	We've got another one coming in.
	Big laby or disrespect to donated $69.
	You don't disrespect big.
	Never label you with stupid people.
	They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
	That's true.
	Andrew, shave your arms.
	Madison, wink into the camera.
	Bobby, show us your armpits hair.
	Who the hell?
	Yeah, you can.
	Okay, I just had to.
	Oh, okay.
	There you go.
	George could donated $100.
	I think one person identified as bisexual.
	To the panel, would you consider being with a man who is bisexual?
	If not, why not?
	Yeah, we'll go around on this really quick.
	Would you be with a man who's bisexual?
	Yes, and I have.
	I'm bisexual and no.
	So if no, why not?
	No, because I don't know.
	I just feel like if someone's sticking their dick in someone's butt and then coming to have sex with me, then it'll probably cause problems.
	Now, what's worse, though, being on the receiving end or being what is it, the top or bottom?
	Yeah.
	The pitcher and the catcher.
	So, but you're what's interesting, it's actually interesting here.
	You're you're by yourself, right?
	A little bit of a double standard, don't you think?
	Maybe, but I don't do anal.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	Oh, wow.
	You let him hit it raw.
	You didn't have second thoughts.
	Now you're a single mom.
	Now you're a single mom song.
	Related to guests, of course.
	It's a song.
	Okay, thank you, La Paladinal.
	I thought my husband hit it wrong.
	That's true.
	It's very true.
	The husband.
	Yeah, the husband.
	The husband that I've been with for two years before we had kids.
	Okay, thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Wait, so what if he was not putting his P in the A, but he was getting D in the B in the pussy?
	The butt.
	That's the same thing.
	Because you said I wouldn't do it because I don't want a guy who's putting his P in the A, but what if he's getting D in the B?
	Does that change anything?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	No comment.
	No comment.
	So no to both then.
	If the guy's bi.
	Just no, no to bi.
	But you're bi.
	No bi.
	I guess it's different, but it's interesting.
	What about you?
	No, I would not be with a bisexual man.
	Yes, I have been before.
	Okay.
	Oh, why not for you?
	I want a man who wants everything that I am.
	And yeah, it's just, no.
	I want a man who's a masculine man and attracted to women.
	What if he's a masculine man and attracted to women on the weekends?
	Beat in cheeks donated $69.
	Thank you.
	Ladies, I'm in my soft guy, E-Air of the Show.
	Drizzle, drizzle, dude.
	Whoever makes $500K a year, own a home, have a car, pays for the first date, and will pay my bills along with my seasonal suits.
	Holler at me.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	Drizzle, drizzle.
	I'll do that for you.
	My husband literally made $500K a year.
	If you can't lay it down, it's a no.
	Wait, you're hard.
	Do you have a romantic interest in beat and cheeks?
	Oh, I have no idea, but I'm just saying, like, if he makes five spring like that.
	No, we don't care how much money because my husband made 500K and I still divorced him.
	Still divorced.
	No, wait, no, I thought he wanted that from the woman.
	No, you have to pay it for her.
	Oh, he wants it.
	He wants cheeks.
	He said you have to make 500.
	Cheeks, I didn't know that.
	All right.
	Okay.
	He's in a soft guy.
	Yeah.
	There's some girls who are.
	You want to be a stay-at-home dad?
	Well, come over and sit on my lap.
	Would you be with a bi guy?
	I have no judgment about it, but I personally would not.
	I have in the past.
	I didn't know they were until much later, but it didn't bother me.
	Okay.
	It's all the same to me.
	No, absolutely not.
	No?
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	We were talking a little bit about your marriage/slash divorce.
	Now, I'll actually just pull up my notes here really quick.
	Actually, you know what?
	We'll come back to it, but your position is that your soon-to-be ex-husband, he is, was a narcissist.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	And have you so how long have you guys been separated?
	So he left the house in February, which is when I filed.
	And the last time we had any contact was maybe early March.
	Like, he was still trying to get me back January, February, and like into March a little bit.
	But you moved out in February.
	No, I moved out in March.
	I filed for a divorce in February.
	But how long were you checked out for the whole month?
	Like two years.
	I tried to file for divorce during my first pregnancy.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	And so, in terms of dating, though, have you been dating at all?
	Yeah, I was seeing one guy for a little bit, and he's just too young.
	I saw your Instagram story last night.
	It didn't work out.
	But I'm not like talking to anybody really right now.
	Okay, we're just going to ignore that.
	Oh, like, wait, what did I put on there?
	I don't even know.
	Oh, no, you were.
	I guess you guys got into Santa Barbara early, and you're like, oh, there's a lot of tall, attractive guys here in Santa Barbara.
	Tall guys with glasses.
	Oof.
	Okay.
	You guys get lucky last night?
	No, I don't have like casual hookups.
	Okay.
	So have you had like any like a short-term thing with any guys?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	After my husband, I started dating a comedian dude.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And he was a year younger.
	No, not a rebound.
	Not a rebound.
	Was there a rebound?
	No.
	No rebound.
	No, no.
	It's just someone that I met through a mutual friend, and I was like, oh, I really like you.
	Now, does your husband, does he pay child support?
	He has no.
	Well, okay, so he's not going to be legally ordered to until we go to court.
	Okay, so that's in the works.
	It's in the works.
	But he has not for, okay, the first month when I was still at the house and he still thought maybe I would stay and like change my mind, he was sending them $100 a week.
	Salu Bryan Sava donated $69.
	I would ask Maddie's Kuham off of Frankie's D just to be like, why did you?
	No, it's already read out.
	Too late.
	I missed it.
	All right, Salu.
	So bad.
	Y'all crazy, bro.
	Jeez.
	Y'all crazy.
	Yeah, so he was sending like $100 for $500,000.
	Did you guys have a prenup?
	No.
	No prenup?
	No, but I mean, like, honestly, in Texas, the men are pretty protected.
	Or whoever makes the most money or owned a home first, like, there's protections in place there anyway.
	Were you making any money while you guys were together?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	In real estate.
	Yeah.
	You also, did you do dancing too?
	Were you a dancer?
	Not while I was married.
	I was a dancer in my young adult life, but not ever at any point when I was with my husband.
	Not with him.
	Okay.
	And so, no prenup.
	You guys are getting divorced.
	Is he?
	I don't know how this works in Texas, but does he have to.
	Do you have a lawyer?
	I do.
	Does he have to pay for your lawyer?
	We're going to request it.
	You're going to request it?
	And he's going to have to pay back child support from the time that I left since he hasn't sent any, except the first month.
	He hasn't sent them money, talked to them.
	Are there child support maximums in Texas?
	Yeah.
	The maximum would be $2,300 for two kids.
	And I'm assuming, given that he makes $500,000, he's probably obligated to pay the maximum.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	It's good that they have the maximum, though, I suppose.
	So, okay, so you've been kind of dating a little bit here and there.
	You're in the process of getting divorced.
	And we'll get into some of the details of the relationship a little bit later on.
	What about you?
	I am single.
	I've always been single.
	Always been single?
	Always been single, but I had like an E relationship for like three days.
	To those who know, they know.
	Wait, what is an E relationship?
	So you never met in person?
	No, we never met in person.
	We were talking on Discord for like three years.
	Do you know what he looks like, or was it just like an anime?
	No, I know exactly what he looks like.
	It wasn't AI generated.
	Wait, you guys were like dating for three years?
	For three days.
	Oh, three days.
	Yeah, we had been talking for three years.
	Three years.
	Friends.
	Damn, that's a lot of fun.
	I don't know, man.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	It was a lot of work.
	And I had to put in, like, he was, he was broke, bro.
	You send him money?
	No, I didn't send him money.
	Oh, okay.
	But he was.
	So, why did it only last for three days?
	The reason why was because I had been acting a little bit crazy because I had gone on shrooms.
	And I took like way too many shrooms.
	What?
	Went to a psych ward.
	Word.
	Then I was having like, I don't know how to describe it, but I was having really bad, like expression of myself.
	Like, I was saying things out of turn.
	And I think it became too much for him.
	And so he.
	Wait, did you get 5150?
	What the?
	What's that?
	It's a three-day.
	51.50 is involuntary psychiatric hold.
	Yeah, I like blew the doors off the ambulance.
	Damn.
	With a firearm?
	With my hands.
	Like.
	Wait, what?
	No, like I blew the doors open.
	And so wait, were you just on shrooms?
	Yeah, I was just on shrooms.
	Don't take drugs, kids.
	Don't take drugs.
	You know, it's not the.
	You had that special ed strength?
	No, but I took like.
	So this comedian had given me a bunch of shrooms and I just took them all at once because I thought, you know, the universe was pointing point.
	Pointing.
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	I make $450K yearly, but you have to pay me to lay it down.
	If you want to DM me, you need to send $1,000 via Kishak first.
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	Drizzle, drizzle, dude.
	What's that being cheeks?
	I'm sure you'd love that Chris Brown song.
	It's like, fuck, how's it going?
	You know, these Jose Loyal, how's it going?
	He just said it.
	No, but what's the lyric?
	It's like, wait, something about broke bitches?
	Anybody know the lyrics to that?
	I'm not broke bitch, Rich.
	But I don't date you.
	But I don't fucking broke bitches.
	There we go, Madison.
	She knows the lyrics.
	She's a Chris Brown fan.
	All right.
	So thank you, Bean Cheeks.
	Appreciate it.
	So, okay.
	Okay, you did some shrooms.
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Get it.
	Freaked out.
	Psychiatric hold.
	Yeah.
	Committed to a psych hospital.
	Do you take any medication for that?
	I guess.
	Yeah, I'm on mood stabilizers now and anti-anxiety stuff.
	So, well, I've been.
	Any psychotropic antidepressants?
	Not psychotropic.
	Okay.
	I think that would just exacerbate any.
	Have you been diagnosed with anything like bipolar?
	No.
	Nothing like that.
	Okay.
	So, in terms of your relationship, though, you said you've been single your entire life.
	Yeah.
	And you're 24.
	So what's, I guess, the longest period of time?
	Like, have you ever dated somebody in person?
	Not really.
	Have you been on a date?
	Yeah, I've been on dates.
	What?
	Have you been on multiple dates with the same person?
	Yeah.
	I would say I've been on like five dates with one person, but it was a rebound situation.
	I was the rebound, and he wasn't looking for a relationship.
	Okay.
	So what's the longest period of time you've seen a guy?
	Was it that guy?
	Five-date guy?
	Yeah, I was the five-date guy.
	And that was like, what, a month?
	It was like three months.
	But he still talks to me.
	Like, he tries to.
	He tries to smash.
	Yeah.
	Still tries to smash.
	Okay.
	Still tries to smash.
	So single your whole life, your longest thing was three months.
	And so have you done like more casual type stuff, like casual hookups?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	For the most part, not all of that.
	And are you desirous of something more serious, something long-term?
	Yes.
	I'm waiting until marriage.
	For what?
	To have sex?
	Yeah, for sex.
	Are you a virgin?
	No.
	Don't you think that ship has sailed?
	You can decide at any time.
	You can decide at any time.
	I can re like because, okay, I feel like anytime a girl starts having sex, it's like, I don't know.
	It's just an experience.
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	Ladies, you're out in open sea on a raft.
	Would you rather have a man with you or a great white shark circling you?
	Okay, starting with you, go ahead, Bobby.
	Open sea on the raft.
	Obviously, like to be with a man.
	Or a great white shark.
	Random man.
	It's a random man.
	Yeah, a man.
	Man's great.
	A man, obviously.
	A random man.
	It's not so obvious.
	I would take a random man.
	Yeah, definitely a dude.
	Manny.
	Okay.
	So going back to this, so you're waiting until, are you religious?
	A little.
	I've been reading the Bible a lot more recently.
	Do you have a denomination?
	Christian.
	I mean, like, are you Protestant, Orthodox, Catholic?
	Okay.
	I have a question if that's okay.
	Go ahead.
	So you're not a virgin?
	No, I'm not a virgin.
	But now you want to wait until marriage?
	Yeah, for the most part.
	Okay, you do realize that doing that, you're setting yourself up for failure, right?
	Because you don't know what you're getting into.
	You don't know if you have any sexual chemistry.
	You're going to get with this dude and find out that he's not tooting your hone.
	Well, so I believe that you can like teach people.
	And you're in favor of teaching people.
	You said it outside.
	Teach the young ones.
	That's true.
	Same concept.
	So I, yeah, definitely if someone, my main concern now is a relationship and not.
	Like, I was willing, and I am willing now, as I've gotten older, to like put sex on the back burner.
	And I don't think a lot of women are willing to do that.
	You don't think sex is an important component?
	No, I definitely do.
	So, question.
	If the guy has a schmeckle and it's not able to get, you know, get you off, then what?
	I mean, I've been masturbating my whole life, so.
	Right, so that means you're going to be with a dude, you're going to marry a guy, spend the rest of your life with him.
	Masturbating?
	No, then a relationship is truly based on love, then.
	I mean, and sex is.
	Wait, okay, wait.
	I don't know yet if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts.
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	Animals have been awful lately, and this looks like another horrible one.
	Where is Andrew?
	He's the only thing making this show interesting lately.
	Sounds like somebody got a crush.
	Stop projecting a little crush.
	Andrew's going to be doing a call-in a little bit later on.
	He will be calling in, but if...
	It's popping right now.
	We're just getting warmed up.
	Relax.
	Take a chill.
	If, I mean, you're welcome to unsub, honestly, you're welcome to unsubscribe from the channel.
	Like, I don't give a fuck.
	Okay.
	We had some flakes.
	It is what it is, dude.
	We had no shows.
	So.
	Back to what I was saying.
	don't know if waiting until marriage includes all sexual acts so I would know based on certain things like second base if he's but size is like not the concern Like, I know sex is very important.
	Okay.
	I've known, but it's not the priority for me right now.
	Size matters when it's size matters when it's a micro, for sure.
	No, she is.
	I'm kidding.
	I still check in it.
	Wait, okay.
	I don't know what is going on, but.
	We can talk about it later.
	Okay.
	I mean.
	Would you be with a guy who has a micro?
	A micro peen.
	I mean, shit.
	Exactly.
	You'd probably not be married to how it looks.
	How it looks.
	Here, let me ask you a question.
	So you've had sex already.
	Yeah.
	But now you're waiting until marriage.
	Can I ask, like, have you had a one-night stand?
	No.
	You've never slept with the guy the same night you met him?
	No.
	Second night?
	Third?
	Most of my hookups have been from dating apps.
	So I probably like third night.
	Third night.
	Okay.
	I mean, and do you want to date a Christian guy?
	I'm not really picky.
	It says in the Bible that like if you date someone or like you marry someone that has faith, then you're saved.
	And if like a man or a woman, it doesn't matter.
	Have you been so have you been celibate for a while?
	Yeah.
	How long have you been celibate for?
	Right now, two years.
	And then previously I did another two years before I met the five dates guy.
	All right.
	Well, it's not the worst I've heard, but and look, if a woman had previously slept with 100 men on the first date and she decides after doing that that she wants to wait until she's married to have sex with her, what would be her 101st partner, that's her prerogative.
	From the guy's perspective, if I were to be advising like a male friend, if that would be an acceptable dynamic, she can do it.
	I would just tell him, you shouldn't date her.
	So are you saying it for me?
	Women are welcome to switch up.
	You could have been doing sex work, OnlyFans, sleeping with a new guy every single day of the week.
	You can switch up and be like, well, I'm going to wait until marriage now, but you're able to do it, but men are also allowed to feel like that's kind of a raw deal, and this is not a woman that I want to pursue.
	Yeah, I mean, I can totally understand that, especially from the perspective of like, if I'm with a guy that's like actually good for me and I'm holding out or withholding sex from him, then he might not be as enthused by it.
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	All right.
	Thank you, man.
	I think we are now going to boost the TTS trigger back up to the normal.
	So that should be switched.
	Appreciate all of you guys who sent some in.
	The trigger should be bumped back up.
	So go ahead with your point.
	I definitely believe that, like, okay, so I am willing to compromise on the waiting until marriage, but it's really situation-based.
	It's not something, it's something that I recently came to terms with, like after the shrooms, it's been within the past like four months that I was like, okay, I feel like I want to wait until marriage.
	But that's something that I'm willing to like compromise on or kind of It's more so me just enforcing a boundary that I haven't enforced before of saying, okay, I want to withhold or wait to have sex with people before so that I can feel chemistry with them and not convolute it with sex because sex will convolute any chemistry that you have and it'll ruin the potential of a good relationship.
	Can I ask you a question?
	What if there was a scenario where you meet a guy and could you imagine a scenario where, for example, you meet a guy that he's not inclined to wait until marriage.
	But let's say you do have sex with him.
	He really likes you.
	You guys get into a long-term relationship.
	You guys end up dating for one or two years.
	Sex is great.
	You guys love each other.
	Monogamous relationship.
	He now ends up proposing to you.
	You guys get married.
	You get the man.
	Okay.
	So it's like a great.
	But so, but by, let's say in this scenario, he knows exactly what he's looking for in a relationship, and that's a sexual relationship.
	Okay.
	And that would potentially close the door on a guy who would could otherwise end up being your future husband, life partner.
	Any thoughts on that?
	Like I said, I'm willing to compromise.
	So if it's really important to him, then I'm expecting him to communicate that to me.
	Like, I really need sex in a relationship.
	And I would completely understand that.
	And I would sympathize with it because I'm like, I'm someone who wants sex too, but I'm also someone who in the past has made irresponsible decisions when I was younger and I didn't want, I don't want to like.
	So you would like to wait until marriage, but if presented with an attractive enough partner, you would.
	Does that sound like, can I make that decision?
	Is that like greedy or what?
	It sounds selfish.
	Okay, but everyone's selfish.
	I think you're totally valid.
	Does anybody, what is what's the panel's thoughts on the whole like, well, you've had sex with 20 people.
	I'm not saying that's the case for you, but you've had sex with 20, 30, 40 people, first night, second night, third night.
	Then Prince Charming comes along and, oh, hold on.
	I gave it to the fuckboys instantly, but the guy who's actually ought to be deserving of sexual access, you get to wait.
	Your thoughts on that, panel?
	Go ahead.
	I think that anybody can change.
	Like, drug addicts get sober all the time.
	People get saved.
	And so I think people can genuinely decide, I'm going to be reborn in one way or another.
	And that's valid.
	But if the partner comes along and he can't respect her boundaries on that, then he's not meant for her to begin with.
	It's an incompatibility issue at that point.
	And you will find somebody who will respect that.
	And you shouldn't just let, you shouldn't just let anybody make you change your mind on what you morally think is right.
	And a man who is Prince Charming won't try to force you to.
	This is my take.
	And I think that's the thing.
	I don't think it's about that.
	I don't think he would force her.
	He would just walk out.
	He's entitled to do that.
	Any thoughts from you?
	I agree.
	Sir.
	I think we're just all very sexual beings, especially men.
	And I mean, that's a pretty hard, that's a hard sell, I think, for most guys.
	But I do see, like, I like, this is totally a valid point, and that's what I was going to say first: is that like people can change.
	And like my promiscuity used to be higher, and now I really don't have a desire for men at all, besides mine.
	Right.
	Women, obviously.
	Different story, but.
	Like, I'm not saying that women shouldn't change for the better, can't change for the better.
	But it's like, don't expect men to accept your past because we also have a right of discernment and judgment, just as you do.
	So that's totally fair too.
	And I mean, I can see why it seems weird, but it's also like, I'm not going to judge.
	I'm not as judgmental of the guy if he's made a decision.
	Whatever decision, like informed by his past experiences.
	At least from the male perspective, it's one thing, like, if she's a virgin or like that's always been her standard.
	Maybe not like the marriage thing, but she's like, okay, well, I want to wait until we're in like a serious long-term relationship.
	She's only been with one, two, three other guys.
	She always waited like one, two, three months before having sex.
	But I think it's just like the switch up of like the shifting in values.
	Because I think one of the concerns that might be the case, maybe not marriage, but let's say a girl wants to wait three months to have sex.
	It's like, okay, did you do that for the last guy?
	And then what about the guy that's going to probably be after me?
	Yeah.
	Because that's the crazy thing is like when a girl's like, oh, I want to, I've got a 60-day rule.
	And then like, I've not done that shit, but they've never enforced it.
	Can I say something really quick?
	I actually have a friend who just, even with her boyfriend, her current boyfriend, like they've hooked up plenty of times.
	And then she was like, you know what?
	I'm going to go back to Jesus.
	And they're both very attractive people.
	He's a very attractive guy.
	And he's actually respecting her going celibate.
	Oh, wait.
	So they were dating.
	Yes.
	Oh, this is interesting.
	They are still dating.
	I've heard about this a little bit.
	Okay, so they're dating.
	They were dating.
	They were having sex.
	She became religious, found Jesus.
	She's not.
	Interesting.
	And then, so they were having sex.
	They're still together.
	But then she's like, let's not have sex anymore.
	Yeah, she's like, morally, I just feel like God's putting it on my heart to like wait until marriage.
	And he actually is going along with it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I hope you're watching Hillary.
	That's brief.
	Is he intending to marry her?
	How long have they been together?
	Ooh, I don't know.
	Like, maybe a year.
	They live together.
	They have a really healthy relationship.
	He's cheating.
	No, he doesn't.
	I promise he's not.
	I mean, he would be 100%.
	I mean, I don't trust anybody, but he's not cheating on her.
	It would be 100% pretext for a breakup.
	He would be 100% in the right to break up with her.
	Yeah, like if he decided he wanted to.
	I'm not saying it's not valid.
	He also seems to be, if he's okay with it, I mean, I suppose that's fine.
	Yeah, I mean, everybody's going to have different standards.
	I think it's fair if men are like, you know what, I'm not cool with this.
	But not all men are going to be that way.
	I've actually had one or two similar experiences to that sort of, but like earlier on, which has been very peculiar.
	So I've had like, I've hooked up once, twice, three times with a girl, and then she's like, ah, can we like pump the brakes?
	Can we?
	And like, that's not a problem.
	Was it like religious reasons?
	Nope.
	Just like, yeah.
	I don't know if I'd tell people that.
	Isn't it though dependent on the guy and his tolerance?
	Well, no, no, no.
	This is what it is.
	This is what I think it is in that situation.
	Is that so?
	Hooked up the girls, and then they're like, oh, I don't know.
	Like, they still want to date me, but they're like, ah, I feel like we move too quick.
	You know.
	I think it's that they want to, they want to leverage it into a long-term relationship.
	But at that point, the cat's out of the fucking bat.
	And I just feel like that's way too much like carrot on the stick.
	It's way too much you trying to like withhold or leverage sex because it was never, we already hooked up.
	Now you want to reel it back to try to get me into a long-term relationship.
	So those invariably, I was just like, that's weird.
	If it's for religious reasons, I can understand it.
	I mean, I mean, and I think everybody has a right to their own body and what they want to do, but that situation is a little bit less.
	Like, I don't understand it as much as if they have like some moral obligation that they makes sense to me if a woman is trying to pursue a long-term relationship as her primary prerogative, because that's how we biologically are wired.
	We want stability for our potential offspring, and if we are making decisions based off of that, like I think most women have the sense that if they're going to get into a long-term relationship with somebody, okay.
	So, anyways, let's get your relationship status.
	I am properly single.
	I was in a seven-year relationship that ended in 2020.
	And yeah, I've taken the last four years to work on friendships and my business.
	And I haven't really dated at all.
	So, single for four years, you're dating for seven.
	So, from like your late 20s to mid-30s, you guys were dating.
	I'm 38 now, so yeah, that ended when I was 34.
	Okay.
	And is that your longest relationship you've had?
	So, you've been single for four years, you've been, and you said no dating, no, celibate, yeah, for four years, yes.
	There you go.
	All right, wow, okay, celibate for four, nothing, not even a rebound, no rebound.
	No, oh, okay, all right, good for you.
	And uh, okay, why did your relationship end?
	Um, there were a lot of value differences in the beginning that I was aware of, but I just kind of ignored.
	Um, he's not a bad person, but um, yeah, there were some huge value discrepancies that I just kind of like turned a blind eye to, and that was totally on me.
	And it just got to the point where I think as I continue to grow and mature as a person, it was just not, it was not doable for me anymore.
	And I think that if there's some really big core value differences, like that's not something that like counseling or talking it out can really change.
	Um, I'm also not really interested in changing the man that I love and I want to be with, so it just got to the point where out of my out of respect for myself and for him, I was like, this is not how I want to live the rest of my life.
	And, you know, while I still have some youth and fitness and looks and health, I'd like to like find someone who is who's right for me.
	So, so did you end things?
	I did.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And so, okay.
	Single for four years, ended things in person, or was it like a text message?
	Oh, definitely in person.
	We were living together.
	Later.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Married for 10 years.
	And I'm proud to say, actually, that I married my first, or no, not first, one night.
	He was a one-night stand.
	So I married a one-night stand.
	He was supposed to be a one-night stand, and it turned into a 10-year relationship.
	Oh, there you go.
	Was he a tender?
	No.
	He was a person I met in real life.
	Wait, so married for 10 years, but how long were you together before married?
	About a year and a half.
	Okay, so together for about like 11, 12 years?
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	We're coming on 12 years together.
	All right.
	And he was a one-night stand.
	How did you get?
	You guys met at the club?
	No.
	We met in Alaska.
	We were both working up in Alaska.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We were selling jewelry for different companies.
	And here's the funny thing.
	So this guy that I met, he was the friend of a guy who I was already hooking up with in Alaska.
	Because in Alaska, there's very, very little to do.
	You're working 12 to 14 hours a day, and then afterwards, you're drinking or fucking.
	That's literally the only two things to do in Alaska.
	I'm sure a lot of people are fucking the same people as well.
	Yeah, exactly.
	A small community.
	It's a very small community.
	And the town that we were in was literally four streets wide, 20 streets long.
	Could walk the whole town in 45 minutes.
	What town?
	I think that's why they call it Eskimo.
	Skagway, Alaska.
	Skagway.
	Yes.
	And there's a lot of Skags that way.
	Okay.
	What prompted the whole thing was the guy who I was seeing, him and I had kind of like, the attraction just wasn't there anymore because we had hooked up the first time I'd gone up to Alaska and it just fizzled out.
	So when we came back up, we tried to reconnect again.
	It just wasn't working.
	So I met his friend and I didn't like him at first.
	But we had made an agreement, the guy who I was with, like, I'm not going to sleep with any of your friends.
	You don't sleep with any of my.
	I find out he slept with one of my friends.
	So I had to sleep with one of his.
	Revenge is revenge.
	That's a rock at that point.
	So, you know, but it turned into something a lot bigger than I thought.
	And the craziest part of the story is.
	This is crazy.
	I love it.
	I was working with his mom before I met him.
	I didn't know that it was her son when I was dating him.
	So come the end of the summer when we first started hooking up, his mom and I are having dinner.
	And mind you, we're really good friends.
	And so she's like, so I hear you're seeing someone.
	And we tried to keep it on the DL.
	We didn't want everybody to know.
	And I was like, yeah, I'm not sure where it's going, you know.
	Like, hopefully, you know, it's something that lasts long, but you know, long-distance relationships.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	She's like, yeah, so what are your intentions with my son?
	And straight up, like at a movie, I was like, what?
	I'm fucking my friend's son.
	I was like, oh, well.
	She's like, just be good to each other.
	And a year and a half later, we're married.
	So it worked out.
	Now my mother-in-law is my best friend.
	Wait, going back to you really quick, and then I have a couple questions for you.
	Sure.
	Wait, so when you're trying to divorce him, was it during your first or second pregnancy?
	My first.
	Oh.
	Wait, hold on.
	But you have two kids.
	I do.
	So wait, why did you, if you're trying to divorce him during your first pregnancy, why did you go and have a second kid with him?
	So that it's.
	Were you guys like working it out, kind of?
	Sort of.
	Okay.
	But I didn't exactly choose to get pregnant again.
	Unexpected.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All right.
	We're going to read two chats, then we're going to get into some topics here.
	We have Bobby.
	Bobby, I'm going to have you read some of these chats.
	Nick, can you pull this up?
	The dyslexic person.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're dyslexic?
	Okay.
	Give it a shot.
	I believe in you.
	Oh, is this one?
	Okay.
	Alyssa, I love those kids, but can you quit being so easy on the Lora's?
	Give the juicy stories.
	I'll find a way to wipe the internet of this interview by the time they're old enough to see it.
	What?
	Is that your Loraxes?
	Yeah, he looks like the Lorax.
	Okay, so after I left, so I haven't blocked, and I had to change my number and all kinds of stuff.
	But my friends still look at his page because people are nosy.
	Like, people are just nosy.
	And they sent me a screenshot of his new partner.
	And in that picture, like, my husband had literally aged like 20 years in the course of a few months.
	And so there's like a side-by-side picture, and everybody called him the Lorax.
	I don't, I don't know who that is or why they just said that on the internet, but it must be someone.
	I mean, you can't really help how you look, so there's more important things than that.
	But I think it can be a reflection of like maybe you're when you stop taking care of yourself, it looks like maybe things are going downhill a little bit.
	All right.
	So he's the Lorax because he looks like he looks like the Lorax.
	Bobby, can I have you read this one, please?
	Thank you, Bronaissance.
	Repeal the 19th Amendment immediately.
	These women have no understanding of how men work or what we want, nor do they care about what we want.
	We need Patrice O'Neill back immediately.
	Love now.
	What do you are you?
	I feel like he's referring.
	How the hell are we supposed to know what men want?
	Patrice O'Neill.
	That's my boy's.
	We're completely different.
	Like, unless people are being honest with communication, we don't, like, I don't know what men want.
	It's an extra basis understanding what people generally just cracks me up when people say, like, oh, well, female, or oh, men should be like this, or female should be like this.
	It's like, females, like, it doesn't, everybody's different.
	Yeah, we're all literally a product of a million dependent variables that are unique to us based off of our nurture and nature and all our unique experiences.
	So everybody's going to be different, but for the most part, it seems like men kind of have some things that we can all say that they want.
	And I think, I don't think that we don't understand what men want.
	I don't think I don't know what under what men want.
	I think most women don't understand what they want.
	Most women that I know, especially under the age of 25, y'all don't know what the hell you want at all.
	You don't know what you want to eat for dinner.
	You don't want to know.
	You don't know what outfit to wear.
	You don't know a lot.
	I think men mostly more than like y'all can say it's sex or whatever.
	Men want to feel appreciated for like the work that they do.
	And they don't want to have to read your mind.
	They want you to communicate what you want.
	And if they're, you know, working for you, providing for you, they just want to be seen and appreciated.
	And I think in society, for the most part, men don't get that.
	And they're also not given as much freedom to be emotional.
	And then they turn into like these incels.
	I think the biggest thing that men would probably really appreciate from women that they don't get is women holding themselves accountable for things.
	That's a good one, too.
	80% of women that I know don't know about accountability.
	They don't know how to take accountability.
	They don't know how to admit their own failures, whether it's in relationship.
	Exactly.
	They can't, you know, you want to take away the sex because of this and that and the other.
	Well, what happened?
	What happened?
	What prompted that in this relationship?
	Why do you feel like you need to be the one to hold out?
	And then you want to scream equality.
	Like, come on.
	Though, like, obviously there's men who can't be held accountable too.
	Like, my husband would point things out about me, and I make it a point in my life to not be ruled by cognitive dissonance.
	Like, I feel like the more intelligent you are, the more you know that you don't know.
	Like, there's, you have blind spots in your awareness.
	And that made me a perfect victim to narcissistic abuse because he would be like, it's you, da-da-da.
	And I would reflect and I'm like, was your therapist a liberal?
	No.
	I'm not a liberal.
	Was your therapist a liberal?
	No.
	Well, who?
	Did the therapist introduce narcissistic abuse into your lexicon?
	Yes.
	I didn't know anything about it.
	But when I was explaining all the experiences, she said it sounds like she's like, obviously, I can't diagnose someone who's not my patient.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Do you think there's anything you did wrong in that relationship?
	1,000%.
	1,000%.
	All kinds of things.
	Like, I would like threaten, I would threaten to leave a lot instead of like that was my resort to stress.
	Like, if it got too stressful, I'm like, I'm just, I'm going to fucking leave.
	Like, I'm not dealing with that.
	When you say leave, do you mean break up or leave as in like physically walk?
	In general.
	And then, like, it's, I did plenty of wrong things, like, yell, cuss, throw things, all kinds of things.
	Like, I would kind of leverage my ex a little bit in the beginning, but also I was 22 at the time.
	Wait, would you keep in mind?
	Leverage your ex.
	So, like, your husband, your husband, or like a previous person?
	Yeah, so my boyfriend before my husband, like in the beginning, when I first started to see like the crazy shit, I don't have family in the state.
	So the only person that I knew was my ex, and he was a couple hours away.
	And I would call him and I'd be like, come fucking get me.
	This guy's insane.
	And he would start to, and then like my husband would kind of like switch it up and like cry and like beg me to stay.
	And then I would be like, call my ex and be like, never mind, just go home.
	Like, wait, how early into the relationship did some of these worrying things?
	So like it, like a year in, but they were more of like a codependent nature, like a clingy, obsessive, like hacking my email type of stuff, things like that.
	Maybe you should have an air, uh, a air tag in your car.
	Let's share locations type stuff.
	And I, and whatever, that's fine.
	Some of that is fine.
	But no, it's not.
	That's also not codependence.
	It's coercive control.
	Well, yeah, so I know that now.
	I thought it was just like, maybe he has BPD or something, you know?
	And then after I had kids, and people want to act like, oh, well, they just lose attraction during pregnancy.
	He was more attracted to me when I was pregnant.
	Wait, what?
	Yes.
	And actually, let me tell y'all something about the more pregnant you got.
	There's a fetish.
	The bigger the belly.
	No, I.
	Okay, so I used to have an OnlyFans, and I made more money during pregnancy than any other time in my life.
	More money than when I was like 19 years old.
	Yeah, so men are into that.
	Are all women under 25?
	You know what?
	Maybe in my head, one of the reasons why a guy might like, like maybe at least early on in the pregnancy.
	I mean, you can't get pregnant twice, right?
	That's true.
	And then there's a biological component to it where you're reflecting fertility and, you know, they might feel more parabonded to you.
	Wait, what?
	You never heard of that?
	With like twins?
	So you're pregnant.
	Like, you can get pregnant once, and then if you get nutted in a second time around that time, you can say, oh, watch!
	I've never heard of that.
	Oh, yeah.
	You can have a doctor.
	So you're a month pregnant, and a guy keeps blasting inside you, you can get re-pregnant.
	I've never heard of that.
	There's no fucking way.
	Yeah.
	There's no fucking way.
	Is this the thing?
	Nick, could you Google this shit?
	I'll believe it.
	Where did you hear that?
	It's happened before.
	I know a lady right now.
	This could be a thing.
	Do they come out at different times?
	I don't know all the details.
	I just know.
	I feel like I did see a story about a woman who got pregnant by two different men.
	Right.
	And she had a white baby and a black baby.
	I saw that story.
	Yikes.
	She must have had two eggs.
	Yeah, it's a little bit of a drink.
	Okay.
	Sometimes, like I said, it does happen.
	Yeah.
	Whenever you're in the middle of the day, I'm going to get safe to pull up.
	Can you show me?
	Let's see.
	What does the internet say, Nick?
	What the fuck?
	It's extremely rare.
	Superfetation involves a person ovulating again while pregnant.
	Usually prevents subsequent pregnancies once an embryo is developing because of hormonal changes that stop ovulation.
	However, hormonal imbalances or irregular menstrual cycles could make it more likely to happen.
	Oh, shit.
	So, okay, guys, be careful out there, boys.
	Just because she's preggers, you can't be blasting, I guess.
	I don't know.
	All right.
	Brian learned something very important today.
	Shit, boys.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	That's crazy.
	True.
	Anyways.
	I did not know that.
	It's rare, though.
	It's rare.
	So you're probably good, guys.
	He's like, I could have a kid out there.
	Wait, so where were we?
	We were talking about that.
	So, like, a lot of people would say, like, oh, it's because you had kids that ruined the relationship.
	No, it's just because we had kids, he thought she's tied down.
	I don't have to do anything anymore.
	You know, whatever.
	I can disappear for 11 days and her file missing persons report on me.
	And it's going to be all good.
	You know, she's taking care of a newborn and a toddler.
	Like, she doesn't have the energy to leave.
	And then it just, you know, kept the behaviors got worse and worse until it was.
	So, but he was more into you when you were pregnant?
	I mean, he was always very into me.
	Are you talking like sexually or what are we talking?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, only sexually.
	When I was pregnant, I didn't get like the foot rubs or the here's some chocolate, none of that.
	Uh-huh.
	I wasn't even treated good giving birth, actually.
	Damn.
	I was dying.
	And he was just like casually eating peanuts and inviting his family.
	There's like this meme that's going around of a guy who it's a selfie, but a guy takes a photo of himself with like a pepperoni pizza.
	Yes.
	And then the woman is in the background giving birth to a child and like screaming in pain.
	Yeah.
	That's a trend.
	And I actually showed him that and I was like, hey, can you find that, Nick?
	And by the way, you can eat during pregnancy.
	Don't let or during labor.
	Don't let your nurses tell you that you can't.
	That's hospital policy is not law.
	You can eat during pregnancy.
	Why would you want to?
	Because your body's like, we're in a marathon.
	It takes a lot of energy.
	You need food.
	And if you're in a long labor, you're going to be hungry.
	Did you find it, Nick?
	I would think you're nauseous while you're trying to push something out of your vagina.
	Well, you're not like in act.
	I mean, sometimes.
	So for me, I was like dying with preeclampsia.
	So I was there about a week before I got it.
	I got it.
	Good break.
	That sucks.
	And then got pregnant three months later.
	Yeah.
	Did not know you could impregnate a pregnant chick.
	That's crazy.
	Careful, boys.
	The more you out.
	All you guys with like your pregnancy fetishes or whatever.
	You gotta be careful.
	You got it?
	Is it this one?
	Can you see that?
	It's hard for me to tell.
	Wait, is it TOS?
	It's not TOS.
	Yeah, that's it.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Go ahead, pull it up.
	Good boy.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Oh, with the jalapeno.
	What a fucking monster.
	Taking the picture.
	Who cares about him eating during the pregnancy?
	He's put fucking jalapenos on pizza.
	What an idiot.
	That's delirious to join.
	That's sacrilegious.
	All right.
	Where were we, Nick?
	Let's do Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Guys, it's been 16 minutes since we've gone a prime.
	I think it's bugged.
	I think something's broken on our Twitch.
	By the way, we've got no ads.
	At least apparently, somebody told me that even if you disable ads on Twitch, Twitch will still force ads, pre-rolls, maybe.
	So if anybody, any of you are Twitch viewers, tell me if you get ads because I'm pretty sure I disabled it.
	Oh, Dark Lighter.
	Thank you for the Prime.
	I thought it was broken.
	Nightmare, thank for the Prime.
	Moonshine, thank for the Prime.
	Jesse, thank you for the tier one.
	Strude, Struders, thank for the Prime.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Drop us a follow on Prime sub if you have one.
	And then also, guys, like the video.
	Nick, could you pull up the view count really quick?
	I'm just hide that.
	Hide that.
	Yeah.
	We're testing out this other thing.
	All right, so we got a thousand watching on Twitch.
	Oh, that's weird.
	It like did it.
	Okay.
	I got to fix that.
	It should be one next to the other.
	But we got a thousand viewers on Twitch.
	Over 7,000 viewers on YouTube.
	Guys, drop us a like.
	Drop us a like on the video, please.
	Thank you, Nick.
	It helps with the algorithm.
	So drop us a like, guys.
	We've got 7,000 people watching.
	Like the video.
	Okay, you can hide that, Nick.
	Did something fall?
	The table's breaking.
	It's all good.
	It's okay.
	Just let it put it on the ground gently.
	Yeah, we got a table malfunction here.
	Good times.
	All right, cool.
	So we're going to go around the table.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks.
	Face, body.
	So two ratings.
	On a scale of one to ten, you can't pick seven, starting with you.
	Face and body.
	Okay, so I would say face.
	I'm a natural 10.
	What's a natural 10?
	Oh, I was hoping you would ask because I put a lot of thought into it.
	A natural 10 is like in Brian's perfect utopia where women don't wear makeup, don't have Botox filler.
	Wait, in my perfect utopia?
	Yeah, if they don't wear makeup or Botox and filler, I would like to think I was in the 10 range.
	Maybe a 9.5.
	In my perfect utopia.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	A natural 10.
	But in this economy, maybe different.
	But body, I would say six or seven?
	Can't say seven.
	Oh, yeah, okay.
	Why can't we say that?
	Why?
	I guess everybody says it, maybe.
	What about you?
	I would give my face a nine because I hate my nose.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And my dad doesn't like it either, and I have his nose, so it's a curse.
	And then I'd give my body a 10 because I'm just naturally fit.
	I think I'm hot.
	So if somebody just asked you in total just to rate your looks, you give yourself 9.5?
	Or would it be a 10?
	9.5.
	Okay.
	If you fixed your nose, would it be a 10?
	10 face, 10 total?
	Yeah, I guess.
	Yeah, 10.
	Show me your side profile.
	that way.
	Your nose is- I hate it.
	It looks normal.
	Your nose is fine.
	What's the issue with it?
	I just hate, like, if someone catches me off guard and I'm like making a face or scrunch my nose, it just looks so pointy.
	Like, oh, my God.
	Pointy noses are aesthetic, I think.
	I don't know.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	I think you have a cute nose.
	Thanks, guys.
	It's a good nose.
	Don't worry about the nose.
	You got a good nose.
	I'll trade you.
	I got a big nose.
	I'll trade you the nose.
	You want to trade noses?
	I'll give you my nose.
	You, I'll take yours.
	So we'll call it a day.
	All right, what about you?
	I'd say my face is a five and my body's like a nine.
	Body nine, face five, okay?
	Yeah.
	I was going to give myself a six for face.
	Yeah, I'll say six for face and then for body a four.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'd say an eight.
	For face-body?
	Probably about an eight for both.
	Eight for both?
	Can we see the tats?
	Shows the tats.
	I love it.
	Hold them out like this.
	My solar panels.
	So what's the is there a story behind the no story?
	Everyone always asks if they're like cover-ups or something like that.
	I waited till I was 35 to get any tattoos at all.
	I kind of knew who I was and had my life together and I was like, all right, I feel like it's a good idea.
	Wait, so you had no tattoos until you were 35?
	Zero.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Zero.
	Yeah.
	Because I mean, like, that's pretty intense to do like full coverage like that, right?
	What do they call that?
	Is their name?
	Blackout?
	Blackout tattoo, okay.
	Their round meatball donated $200.
	Blondie is a 10 in looks, but gotta work on the non-looks stuff.
	Restar fives all over.
	Brian, keep up the good work haven't been able to watch in a while.
	The real mistake is.
	Oh, dude, it's the meatball guy.
	Mr. Meatball, where are you fucking, buddy?
	I missed you, dude.
	If you think I'm a 10, you can follow me on Old Testament.
	Good to see you in the chat, dude.
	You're a fucking legend here.
	Let me drop this for you, bro.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	You're a fucking pioneer, dude.
	It's good to see you back.
	We missed you.
	Welcome back, man.
	I'd love to know what Mr. Meatball looks like.
	Oh, he's a GigaChad 10 out of 10.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm sure.
	Cut jawline.
	With a name like that, right?
	Yeah, cut jawline.
	Huge pee-pee.
	I can change my mind about my rating.
	Okay, so what about you?
	I'm going to say an eight and eight.
	I don't do a lot of makeup.
	I've never put anything in my face, no Botox.
	I hate chicks who wear fake eyelashes.
	I don't know.
	I don't like the fake stuff.
	I don't like anything that's unnatural on your body.
	Wait, so eight and eight.
	Okay, Madison, what about you?
	Face probably 6.9, if I can't say 7.
	And body 8.
	You're being too modest.
	Yeah, I think I did like girl workout.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Get stronger.
	I think my arms are really hard to get makeup and got a Botox and shit up the rest of your body.
	I could kill it.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you're the only 10 then in Brian's perfect utopia?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Wait, he said blondie.
	Oh, oh, okay.
	I believe in modesty, so I didn't want to give myself a 10.
	I got you.
	Okay.
	I wonder what the chat thinks.
	What about you?
	Let's find out.
	What I get face and fuck damn, I never I just give myself a five normally, but uh face body hmm that's a tough one because I gotta lose a middle weight right now but I think like a dumpy it makes you higher if I got a dumpy it makes you higher
	I'll just say uh he's sweating I can see it five five five face 4.5 body right now.
	It's fair I gotta lose some weight I got a damn thing either women love dad bods I promise I swear to God it's not true except that it is I've never cheated on anybody.
	That's a dad bottle.
	If I was gonna cheat, it would be with a dad bot, oh shit, but I wouldn't date somebody who's like super muscular anyway.
	There's this meme that's like guys posting gym pics and the other men are like, yeah bro, and the women are like, don't care, you like dad bots, it's a thing, say it.
	But like the behavior came into this room, absolutely not.
	I have a crush on Jim from the office, like that's my type of like heavy Eric Foreman would also work.
	Eric Foreman yeah, like if he was.
	Like, if he was a little thicker.
	I had a crush on Uncle Joey growing up.
	Not Jesse, Uncle Joey, look like my dad is tall and skinny.
	You're like red-headed.
	You're like an Atlanta Italian, Puerto Rican lady.
	Good to know, good to know.
	Uh 10, really 10.
	Don't you think it's a bit hubris?
	You know a little hubris.
	Well, like I said, it's a natural tin.
	Like say, we are in a world where there is no filler Botox, and like people wearing makeup, because I usually don't wear makeup at all.
	I'm literally wearing some tinted like brow stuff and blush, just so that I don't get washed out on camera.
	It's camera ready makeup, but I usually don't not to brag, but you bring it up all the time how you prefer women that don't.
	And I'm just saying, like in that utopia world, I would say that I'm a 10 and you have to also think that I'm 30.
	So I have like, I still have my like wrinkles.
	I'm no.
	She looks younger than all the line.
	I still got my.
	She looks all real, so all real yes, sir.
	Don't you think though, like the armpit hair is gonna knock you down like a point or two I can shave that?
	That's like literally not a thing.
	Sometimes we can't the mic's block actually a little bit thicker.
	This one is like my favorite one, because it's more like it's kind of cute.
	She's get me.
	Can you pull up those?
	There's IG photos too, where it's a bit more.
	It's so gross.
	It's okay to have your preferences, and I have.
	I mean, I really just I don't have a preference for being hairy.
	I just like I'm very low maintenance.
	The most I do is purple my hair.
	So that's another.
	That's the photo of you with the the armpit hair next.
	Uh okay, rock and the opportunity.
	So I want to ask the chat, chat, would you like.
	Would it be a red flag, would it be a deal breaker?
	Would you date a girl who has armpit hair?
	That's the question.
	Well, everybody's armpit hair, they just shave it, unshaved armpit hair.
	Well, hold on, Madison.
	That's like hold on.
	That's like me saying hold on Madison.
	That's like me saying uh oh, if somebody asks you oh, would you date a guy with a beard?
	And then you're like well, every guy has a beard, they just shave it.
	No, not every guy can grow a beard, that's old, they're around me poor, donated $200, 1,000.
	Armpit hair is a.
	Yo, Miss Brown.
	I can shave it, and I frequently do.
	And she's plus.
	And she's plus 1,000.
	Now, is it like, what about leg hair?
	Do you shave leg hair too?
	Well, I have very fine, like, blonde hair.
	And so I, like, you can't even tell if I have like hair.
	It's only like.
	Doesn't it feel like that?
	I currently, I currently have a bunch of scratches and bruises because I have a bunch of kittens, but yeah, I don't shave her legs.
	What?
	I did, like, once, and I did not like the prickly.
	I don't want to like be prickly.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	I like it.
	Some women have like fine hair.
	Some women have fine hair.
	So good to know.
	I dated a guy who loved the way my armpits smelled.
	I don't know what that was all about, but I just found it very interesting.
	I'm not a guy that liked to smell armpit to me.
	Strange.
	But I shave my armpits though, so less stink.
	Well, would you wear deodorant?
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Would you wear deodorant, or is it just like natural armpit smell?
	She wears deodorant.
	Yeah, I always do it.
	All right, guys.
	We're going.
	Whoa, that smells like a six.
	It doesn't smell all the way good.
	Oh, shit, bro.
	You're sitting right next to her the whole fucking show, too.
	Smell like French onion soup.
	Oh, from there, it's just like if you like stick it in there.
	Maybe.
	If you're someone who was sexually compatible or like to procreate, then I'm sure.
	And she's literally over there.
	You're down with her pheromone, do you know?
	Oh, definitely.
	I've definitely known people who go crazy over my smell.
	I heard of that.
	That's true.
	Like, if you're attracted to like guys are into wet smell or something.
	I had Felliance when I was a stripper who would come in and literally just lab dance with him with his face buried in my armpit.
	It's definitely a thing.
	Watch!
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	That's cool.
	I want to go home.
	Don't be king shaming.
	That's not the weirdest way.
	Hey, don't king shame.
	You're the one that likes bowing.
	Come on.
	What's wrong with that?
	Not everybody is like cool.
	That is a kink.
	Definitely.
	Everything is a lot constant.
	It's submissive.
	He's hella subbying.
	Around me.
	He likes some dummy mommy shit, huh?
	Nah.
	You donated $200 and you only said one word.
	Facts, bro.
	Facts.
	Okay.
	$200.
	Wait, do you think I'm a sub?
	I'm asking.
	You think I'm a sub?
	Well, I don't know the backstory.
	I don't think I should be insulting.
	No, he likes to subscribe.
	No, if you like, bow, that's subtly behavior.
	You're insulting some.
	I'm sub.
	No, you like.
	Wait, are you saying you like girls to bow to you?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you were saying like, I don't know the backstory.
	I'm bowing.
	Do you think I'm going to hit a bow?
	No, I don't know.
	I could see you being a switch.
	Wow.
	I wouldn't say fully stopped.
	This girl is already ready to peg me.
	Okay.
	She wants to take me home after the podcast, strap it on, and just right?
	That's why there was a lot of people.
	I would have said something like that.
	I think I know, look, all this narcissist shit, bullshit.
	You were trying to, you wanted to peg your husband.
	He wasn't down.
	Actually, no, he's been down.
	I don't want to say too much.
	Sorry, that is an opportunity.
	You're saying you were, were you sodomizing your husband?
	No.
	But if a guy was into that, like, if you wanted to get pegged, I'd peg him, I probably wouldn't date that guy.
	Wait, didn't you say you wouldn't date a guy who's bi?
	Yeah, I wouldn't.
	But I can guarantee you that it's fine putting a dude in doggy style and penetrating him angry.
	I have a submissive before, so yeah.
	But like I wouldn't romantically, well, I don't know.
	I don't like to be fully, like, you're not going to be like, yeah, you dirty little.
	No, you're not going to do that to me.
	But I'm cool.
	Well, that's degradation.
	Which is a part of a sub.
	Well, you don't have to do that.
	I guess it just depends on the level of dominance.
	You could be like a gentle dog.
	Yeah, for sure.
	You don't have to be degrading or even do masochism or sadism or whatever.
	You can just be in charge, let's say.
	But okay.
	Oh, the bear shit.
	Okay, boys.
	We've been talking about this manner bear conversation for a month now.
	Now, California, Nick, pull up the page, the Google page.
	Boys, there was a bear attack and a bear killing a woman.
	This is the first fatal.
	Oh, black bear.
	Maybe there was a brown bear.
	You should pick the bear.
	In California.
	Wait, 2023.
	No, it's not.
	Wait, 2023.
	Woman.
	Hold on.
	Two days ago.
	I thought this was brand new.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	Lots of news articles.
	CNN, Sky News, NBC, USA Today, AP News, CBS, California confirms first fatal black bear attack.
	Oh, it's a there are probably brown bears and grizzly bear attacks.
	Okay.
	There's a black bear.
	These girls saying, oh, well, if it's a black bear, it might be friendly.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	Stupid.
	Fatal black bear attack.
	It's been in the news.
	Pull it, Nick, scroll up a little bit.
	Where?
	Or just right there?
	CNN, two days ago.
	patrice miller 71 was not just okay but i don't think she was like so it broke into her home but a recently released autopsy report by california in her home Fuck it.
	Click that CNN.
	Wait, actually, fuck CNN.
	I mean, she might have already.
	You're going to have a paywall.
	We're going to do.
	We'll do Sky News.
	Let's see Sky News.
	I'll allow Sky News.
	At least she was at the end of the day.
	They're kind of okay.
	They're Australian.
	Woman found dead in mountains was victim of state's first fatal bear attack.
	She was autopsy confirmed.
	She was mauled to death in the teeny mountainous mountaineous.
	How do you fucking say it?
	Mountainaneous.
	Mountainous.
	Sorry for your loss in the mountains.
	Mountainanous?
	Mountains.
	Definitely.
	That's horrible.
	Monotonous.
	Like, what is life?
	We're in the Matrix.
	So.
	Fuck, I should have asked the goddamn bear question first.
	God dang.
	Ask the bear question.
	All right, well, just, I should have asked it before.
	I pulled up the freaking article because now maybe it's going to skew things.
	Start on that side of the table.
	No.
	Well, I'm going to be yapping, and you know this.
	He's got to prove his dominance now.
	Okay.
	So going around the table, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	Starting with you.
	I've done both multiple times.
	I literally.
	You've had sexual intercourse with a man and a bear?
	What do you mean you've done?
	Define done.
	Well, I used to hitchhike the country.
	Like, I was practically homeless.
	I just wanted to travel.
	And, you know, in certain more rural areas, I would go walking looking for my place to camp for the night.
	I would come across bears.
	And then sometimes if I were more in cities, I have literally slept in the woods right next to some bums that I didn't even say hi to.
	I just walked up and I was like, hey.
	Are you going to write at the point soon?
	Can you arrive at the point?
	There are points.
	See, I told you I was going to yap, but I've just answered the question.
	The bear did not kill me.
	The man did not try nothing.
	So this is the silliest argument.
	Man.
	But the bear is also cute, like, for the sake of, yeah, the bear is cute.
	What about you?
	I'd probably choose bear over man in the middle of the woods just because men are unpredictable.
	And the bear I know.
	If I poke it with a stick, then it's a dumb way to die, you know?
	I'm not poking the bear with a stick.
	What if you don't be friends?
	You can be friends with the bear.
	Oh, my God.
	For sure.
	Give it some food and stuff.
	He'll be very happy.
	I've run into a bear.
	You are the food.
	I'm choosing like a whole bunch of people.
	Choosing the man?
	Man.
	Bear.
	Man.
	100% the dude.
	Man.
	Okay.
	I shouldn't have shown that the news are.
	I don't think I would have had a lot of people.
	We talked about this before you come with the framework.
	Their answer was the same.
	No.
	It wouldn't have changed.
	You have to be ominous about it.
	Actually, it did change it.
	Wait, really?
	No.
	The chances of a guy.
	Wait, so you would have said bear?
	I would have probably said a black bear.
	Because I feel like.
	Well, your answer would have been black bear.
	Black bear, yeah.
	Yeah.
	But what I don't understand with the question is like the chances of, if you're in the woods, you're there for a reason, whether you're camping, hiking, whatever the case is.
	And I'm not saying that this is across the board blanket-wise, but I'm pretty sure the dude is probably there for the same reasons.
	I mean, I'm not saying that every single time you go to the woods and a guy's in the woods that he's looking to A, kill you, rape you, or do terrible things to you.
	So, you know, I just, I don't, I don't see that necessarily being the first thing that's going to happen.
	So I think that's a good idea.
	Well, the scenario, the better way to think of it, because a lot of people think, like, well, what's the man doing there?
	I think it's kind of irrelevant to the question.
	The scenario would better just be described as you randomly get dropped in the woods, along with randomly getting dropped in the woods with a man or a bear, and you will cross paths with them.
	So the motivations of why are they there are kind of irrelevant.
	Exactly.
	In this scenario.
	You pick bear.
	Why is that?
	Because in some cases, the bear can be safer than the man.
	And in what scenario will a bear ever be safer than a man?
	A man you have a chance to fight against.
	A bear you do not.
	A man could also, more likely than not, would, well, okay, go ahead, make your argument a lie.
	I just feel like I don't fuck with the bear.
	If I don't mess with the bear and bear doesn't mess with me, we're good.
	But men, you don't, you don't know.
	I mean, sometimes I talk to guys and just me being nice to them, they think I'm trying to move to the next base, and I'm like, bro, I'm just being nice to you.
	I'm so good.
	Okay, and in those situations where maybe the guy was not reading the signals correctly, did he end up murdering you?
	Well, no.
	Oh, okay.
	But you felt uncomfortable.
	You could say almost.
	You never know.
	Almost.
	Really?
	So all those times where the guy misread the signals, you were on the verge of being murdered.
	But you just certainly dude.
	You never know.
	I bet he had like a butter knife in his back pocket waiting for them.
	Yeah, butter knife.
	That would be a good way to do some weird king sounds like a bunch of stuff.
	Probably a spoon.
	I think the only fair argument there.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	Good.
	Good.
	I think the only fair argument is like people in general, men or women, can be more like calculated, right?
	And manipulative, whereas like an animal is kind of just going to react, whereas like a person could possibly act like they don't have bad intent and then actually have bad intent.
	I think that's the only argument I would say for choosing the bear.
	Yeah.
	Does that mean that an animal is more predictable?
	Like I'm going to assume that a bear might do something aggressive so I can be ready for it, but like a person, a man could like pretend that they have good intent and then kind of get you to let your guard down and then not.
	But I mean the men that I'm running into on the trail, I'm a big trail runner.
	I have never knock on something and I'm in some really remote places run into a man who is trying to hurt me in the wilderness ever.
	Well, just here in LA, there was homeless guys randomly attacking women running on the beach.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	That's in the back of New York.
	That's in like New York where there's like punching women.
	Exactly.
	It's different.
	Oh, yeah, I just know.
	I'm not, so I'm not trying to make the argument here that there aren't bad men.
	Can we change the animal?
	Could it be like an elephant?
	Okay.
	But you're like super outdoorsy, right?
	Like, don't you do you do van life?
	I lived in a van for two years.
	Okay.
	And but and you're running, you do trail running.
	So, I mean, how many times a week would you be out running in the wilderness alone, I guess?
	I mean, when I'm in peak training, I'm running up at like 12,500 feet for like 40, 50 miles a week.
	So I'm spending hours and hours.
	I'm talking like no self-service, completely by myself.
	And I do carry something.
	Yeah.
	I also have a really, a really strong dog.
	So he's a very good deterrent.
	But I mean, still, if someone has a gun or a knife, you know, and had really bad intent, it's not going to do much.
	Like, how many individual times would you say you've been out in the wilderness over a thousand times?
	Easily.
	I've been trail running for like seven, eight years.
	Like where you're alone.
	And how many times would you say you've like maybe crossed an individual man when you're out there?
	Maybe like 15, 20, just because where I run is so remote.
	It's super remote.
	So it's rare for you to even encounter anybody.
	Very rare, but I've never felt unsafe.
	I'm always like aware, you know, and kind of wary, but I've never felt threatened or had anything happen.
	And of the times you did encounter men, what, I mean, is it just you literally pass them and it's like a little nod or hi and that's it?
	You just walk past each other?
	Yes, I think I think maybe I've just been lucky.
	I do think like there's an element of luck here.
	You know, I know that bad things can happen to people and sometimes they're not asking for it, you know.
	But I feel like the men that I've passed were kind of aware of the circumstances of the fact that we were alone and were aware of the fact that they are a man and we were in the middle of nowhere.
	And maybe I've just been lucky, but I felt that they were very respectful of that.
	Around me, Paul donated $200.
	Has anyone on this panel ever run into a beer before?
	How safe did you feel?
	I have in Alaska.
	Same car.
	There was no harm.
	You're in a car.
	Yeah.
	In a car.
	And I've run into probably about, I would say, five to six black bears since I've lived in Colorado, like 10 feet away, and they all just leave you beat.
	I've run into about five or six.
	And one time, not counting the cubs, it was a mom with two cubs.
	And yeah, it was about like 10, 15 feet away.
	And I was excited.
	I didn't feel any fear.
	And I was just like, oh, that's so cute.
	I was terrified.
	You're braver.
	I sat in my car for 30 minutes last night because there was a raccoon outside.
	I was so scared to get it.
	Raccoons are mean.
	That was smart.
	I got bit by a barracuda, and it was like over 100 barracuda.
	They're about that big.
	And one of them bit me and I started bleeding.
	And I just held my finger and like swam to shore.
	Like, but my heart rate did not even skip a beat.
	I don't know.
	I have like survival instincts like a motherfucker, I guess.
	Or you're a beautiful psychopath.
	Definitely not a psychopath.
	I'm very emotional.
	But hey, we've both lived in vans before.
	Woo!
	Fanny.
	Wow.
	Commonalities.
	Yes.
	I'm more boring than you.
	I want to say that.
	Hold on.
	Just going back to you, since you said bear, and you were going to say bear.
	I'm going to just say your answer was bear.
	My answer was bear.
	Yeah, sure.
	So why?
	Why bear?
	Because I'm an irrational human being.
	Oh, that's a good one.
	That's actually probably the best answer I've heard on that.
	At least you're self-aware that it's an irrational answer.
	And so, really quick, going back to you, so you like how many times per week would you go out into the wilderness?
	Like five days a week?
	It depends on the time of the year, obviously.
	But in the summer, I'd say at least two, three times a week, I'm up pretty high.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	So, okay.
	A couple questions for you on this bear thing.
	So you think you'd rather be with a bear than the man.
	So what do you think the chances are if we select a random man from the United States population?
	What do you think the chances are that if placed in this scenario that a man would opt to victimize you in some way?
	Hmm.
	I don't know.
	I actually, I don't know.
	Well, give us a percentage.
	20%, 30%, 50%.
	Well, it depends on what victimizing means to you.
	Anyway from anywhere from, say, touching you inappropriately to all the way to murder?
	I would say probably like 40%.
	40%.
	And is that 40% of the men would touch you inappropriately?
	Do you have a lower percentage for how many would murder you or still 40%?
	I just think it's like 40% for more like men touching inappropriately.
	Because just like my experience in school with dudes going through puberty, there was this one kid that literally would walk behind all the girls with big butts and just like smack them and run away.
	Yeah, that's wrong.
	What?
	So this was in, how old were you?
	In middle school.
	Yikes.
	Okay, well, that's wrong of him to do 100%.
	But are you kind of arguing that 40% of the boys that you went to school with touched you or other women inappropriately?
	Okay, maybe like 20%.
	Okay, so just be clear: if there were a thousand, say there were a thousand boys, that would be 400 of the boys, or 200 of the boys in the case of 20%.
	200 of the boys in the school were touching the women inappropriately.
	They would shut the school down.
	Is that your recollection of your middle school experience?
	I just feel like dudes, before they have any common sense, just do stupid stuff.
	And then women are like, what do I do about this?
	Like, what do I do?
	Some women don't even say anything.
	they'd get touched inappropriately and they were never even taught that they were touched inappropriately.
	So they're just like, but I feel like if we did a statistic and women had to like, if we had like a poll, like how many women were touched inappropriately and like inappropriately in their time and didn't say anything, I feel like it would be a higher number than, than people would expect.
	I think there's a lot of people who are not going to be able to do that.
	That's what the whole Me Too movement was about.
	That's what the whole Me Too movement was about, is that every woman has been through something like that.
	Yeah.
	So I'd have to say like 40%.
	I feel like 50 is too many, but I definitely feel like 40%.
	And like men don't like feel like that.
	I feel like it's actually a smaller percentage of men, but it's the percentage of men, they're doing it more.
	So they're going to, so the percentage of men is probably like maybe five, ten percent.
	But that percentage of men is doing so much SA or enough SA to where it's affecting multiple women.
	What constitutes SA to you?
	For me, any time that a man inappropriately touches me or holds me against my will.
	And I don't mean to put you on the spot.
	I'm genuinely curious.
	So if a man were to come up and put his hand on your shoulder, you're not saying that that would be SA.
	I think it would be a violation of my privacy, but it would not be sexual assault.
	So can we try to narrow in here on the number in terms of of the men, random man, what percentage of men do you think would opt to victimize you in some way in this scenario?
	I feel like they don't opt.
	I just feel like sometimes they do it and they don't know that they're doing it.
	Like.
	Okay, fine.
	They're maybe like 20%.
	They're doing it unconsciously or consciously.
	I think that's like a really good percentage.
	20%.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so let's say that there's 160 million men in the United States.
	20% of that would be.
	Oh, my math here is going to be fucked.
	Might not be any better.
	30-something million?
	Let's just say around 30.
	So you think 30 million men in the United States in this situation would choose to victimize you in some way?
	Maybe women in general, not just me.
	Or, well, that wouldn't.
	I'm the one on the other side.
	Do you think 30 million men in the United States throughout the course of their life will victimize a woman in some way?
	Probably.
	30 million men.
	I mean, America is pretty good with the rules and things, and I feel like we have more morals than other countries, but I think that's the only thing that's going to be the prison population.
	Hold on.
	The numbers might get higher.
	So the current prison population, let's see, is over 1 million.
	It's 1.2 million.
	And this includes in the United States?
	Yeah, 1.2 million.
	That's the current prison population in the United States.
	And this is going to include financial crimes.
	It's going to include drug-related crimes, men who are violent towards other men.
	So obviously, you know, there are people who commit crimes, get away with it, they don't get in trouble, et cetera.
	There are men who are released.
	But I mean, don't you think, given this number I've provided, that it's probably unlikely that 30 million percent of or sorry, not 30 million, 30 million men in the United States would choose to victimize you?
	They probably have at some point in their lifetime.
	You think 30 million men would...
	At some point.
	At some point.
	And you're making a very, like, broad definition of essay, too.
	So that's, like, what about...
	No, no, no.
	Well, I'm including murder in this.
	Okay, but this is a logical fallacy because just because there's that many millions of people in prison right now, that's not like a broad overview of people who have maybe have gotten out of prison, haven't gone to prison yet.
	I mentioned that.
	Right, so then you do have to account for that.
	Okay, let's just say that.
	You can do the math and see how many people are in prison for rape or sexual assault.
	And he didn't mention the ones that haven't been reported.
	So maybe add a little bit more for that.
	Because that's very common.
	What?
	Women who don't report the essay.
	Yeah.
	So it's really hard to look at statistics in this way when it's such a nuanced.
	I think if you looked at the whole entire world.
	How about why don't you tell us what percentage of men you think would choose to victimize somebody in these circumstances?
	Okay.
	Who I think would actively do it.
	What percentage?
	I don't think it's 40%.
	I mean, I can't really say.
	I mean, I've encountered things like that myself, but I also know a lot of really good men, and the other guys are like outliers.
	I don't know, maybe 20%.
	Still a lot of men.
	20%.
	Again, that's, what, 30 million or something?
	At least once in their whole lifetime with this whole broad, very vague...
	No, most men throughout their whole lifetime are never going to commit a violent crime.
	I think it is a smaller percentage.
	A very small percentage.
	Doing a lot of that, if that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Because like 20%, that's a lot.
	That's a lot.
	You would think that the hobos in the woods that I like camp next to would be in the like demographic that's higher percentage to do something like that.
	I don't know if I'll phrase that right, but no.
	I didn't think that they would be in that higher percentage, and yet no one bothered me.
	I did have a bum like throw his shit bucket at me once.
	I was a correctional officer, and we see stuff like that all the time.
	I think another important thing- Wait, you're a what?
	I was a correctional officer at one point.
	Okay, another important thing to note, I guess, is not necessarily how many men are actually doing it, but how many men, given the circumstances, would do it.
	And that is probably higher than what's actually happening.
	Even if there were no consequences, if there were no consequences for it, there was actually an exclusion.
	So, no, really, you think no consequences they would yes, that's I can say that's beautiful that you don't think that.
	I think you're projecting a very good internal world.
	That's the history of that you don't think that.
	What about people?
	So, are you saying like no criminal consequences?
	Yeah, no criminal consequences.
	Yeah, what about the consequences of your mind to do that?
	Well, that too, but I think that's okay, then let's roll out culture and shaming because there's culture and shaming associated with SA.
	So, if you didn't have that present, I mean, this is kind of like you're going to have a lot more.
	Because I feel like it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women and be aggressive.
	You think it's a natural inclination for men to want to dominate women?
	You mean I'm not going to be a moment?
	But the context of the conversation here is SA.
	So, when you say dominate, you mean it's in men's nature to want to essay women if you're considering the definition of SA to be like any form of inappropriate gesture or touching, then yes, I feel like a lot of men would do that.
	If you're going by thought, give me a percentage of what percentage of men would do it: 15.
	15.
	Okay, go ahead.
	What were you going to say?
	I just, I mean, what we do for work, like the amount of men that make comments that are just like insane.
	And it's like, if it was a percentage, by like, if there was no like liability for doing that, I feel like it would easily be 40%.
	Like, men would just be what do you mean, the men that make comments?
	What do you mean?
	Okay, men send you messages like what?
	Nice titties.
	I want to fuck you.
	People say crazy things.
	You're a sex worker.
	Exactly.
	I mean, that's the world that you decided to be in.
	No, I know, but it's just like it's probably different than actually doing sexuality.
	That's not essay, right?
	Like, actually, I think she's factoring in the hypothetical.
	Yeah, the hypothetical.
	And if they were to do that, I don't think men should be sending you sexually inappropriate messages, but that's not essay for a guy to be like, oh, nice titties.
	I want to say that.
	Could you ever based on those comments?
	That's why her view is that it would be so many.
	Like, if it's so many comments like that.
	If what was legal?
	If it was legal for men to just do whatever to women, I mean, in other countries, I mean, the stuff that happens to women, that, I mean, if we did a percentage of the entire planet in the countries that women don't have rights.
	Well, I don't know about the, like, I'm not sure what country in specific you're talking about, but perhaps there are some countries where this is a more common occurrence, but I can't really speak to that.
	Yeah.
	So.
	Oh, shoot.
	I can't remember what I was going to say.
	I got.
	I got a question.
	So for those of you who say bear, if we go to any zoo in the world and you go to a zoo that has a bear enclosure, now take note that there will be men and women outside the enclosure.
	Why are none of the women jumping into the enclosure to escape from the men?
	Cultural shaming.
	Why haven't we ever heard of that happening?
	Cultural shaming.
	That's the reason.
	Because why would a man like essay someone in a public space like a zoo?
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's late at night.
	There's nobody around, right?
	Opportunity.
	If a man was trying to essay me in a public space, I wouldn't jump into the enclosure with the bear unless I felt like the bear would avenge me.
	Yes.
	The bear would offend you.
	Okay.
	Nick, could you pull up that meme thing or whatever about the bear?
	I feel like we've been talking about the bear for now.
	Right?
	It's apparently doing a hypothetical essay situation.
	Maddie, can you read this?
	Brown bear engineer.
	Up to nine feet tall, standing, up to 1,300 pounds, claws up to four inches, bite force, 1,200 psi, pelt slash fur up to five inches, speed up to 35 miles per hour.
	Kyle, 510, ew, 174 pounds, project engineer, said hi to you at the gym.
	Kyle.
	Bro, this is exactly it, dude.
	That's exactly it.
	Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
	But.
	I mean, I did preface that I'm a rational.
	Can I ask you guys here?
	You said bear.
	If me and Nick were the two men here in the studio, if we just transformed into bears right now, do you guys think you'd be safer?
	Two bears?
	Two bears in one room?
	Me and Nick right now just instantly transformed into two bears.
	You think you'd be more safe or less safe?
	Definitely less safe.
	Are you still two bears in this room right now?
	Like right there.
	Do you hear like your bear right there?
	Bam.
	I just boom.
	Definitely less safe.
	Transform into a bear.
	Wait, not safe at all.
	Okay.
	Like conscious-wise as well.
	What if they turned into the bears from Mortal Kombat?
	There's bears in Mortal Kombat?
	Yeah, that would really be dangerous.
	Good one.
	Crazy.
	Maybe there's a lot of Ernstine bears, you know?
	I mean, it could be more safe.
	Let me ask you another question.
	if you were in a bathroom, would you rather a man or a bear wanders in?
	Oh, uh, that's a good question.
	Just say the man.
	That's a really good question.
	That's different.
	Well, if a man's coming into a bathroom that I'm in, then definitely the bear.
	Because why is a man walking into the female bathroom?
	So what if it's like a transgender woman?
	Then it's a woman.
	What if he's like a really hot guy?
	Oh, no.
	Yeah, you're eyeballing him all that.
	Nobody's eyeing him.
	I thought the same thing.
	Actually, so question for you.
	I'll know where you fall on the whole like transgender in the bathroom thing.
	Do you think the concerns over transgender women going into women's and girls' bathrooms?
	Do you think that that's a reasonable because of your hesitance to be in a forest with a male?
	Do you think that that's a reasonable position to take?
	I mean, I think it's fine.
	I think it's fine up to the point where if there's like kids and stuff using that bathroom, and what if that, like, people do crazy stuff.
	Like, what if, like, what if a man?
	Yeah, I can't talk about that on the.
	I can't even say that.
	It would make more sense.
	No one's going to feel comfortable given their authentic take, but I would not want a trans woman who has a penis coming into the bathroom with me either.
	Yeah, it would make me a penny.
	Personally, I'll be the one to say it.
	I think, especially if I have kids, not some sage that every trans woman is like an essayer, because they're obviously not, but.
	Okay, got it.
	I do want to ask one question, and then we're going to move on topics because this bear one always gets a little heavy.
	I do want to say rest in peace to that woman who was killed by the bear.
	Nick, pull that up one more time.
	Okay, but I don't think she chose her family.
	She didn't choose the bear.
	She wasn't faced with the predicament of man versus bear.
	She didn't get to choose.
	She was 71.
	News articles back, back, back.
	Let me know when you're doing it.
	I wonder if she fell asleep eating peanut butter or something.
	It's just like, what's crazy to me is right?
	Y'all will.
	Yeah, so rest in peace.
	If anybody's new, tuning in, a woman's first fatal bear attack in California.
	So this is local to us here in California.
	So R.I.P. to that lady, man.
	R.I.P. But y'all will go to a bar filled with random men.
	Y'all will go home and hook up with random men.
	That's what's crazy to me.
	That's why it's irrational.
	That's why I don't go to the bar.
	Yeah, when I first heard it, I was like, obviously, the bear.
	But I get the social thing that people are trying to shed light on.
	Like, I get it.
	But realistically, come on now.
	You're not going to choose the fucking bear.
	No, it's just, it's basically just like social signaling to be like, we don't like men, basically.
	Yeah.
	I would never say that I don't like men.
	I don't necessarily think it's that they don't like men.
	I think they're just trying to shed light on a problem and put it into a beach.
	I just think an animal is easier to predict their behavior with a brain that is very complex.
	A bear, I know if I poke it with a stick, I'm probably going to piss it off.
	And then it's probably going to be a little bit more.
	Even if you don't poke it with a stick.
	It's a bear.
	It's a 1,300-pound animal that's willing to kill you.
	You said you've seen bears in person.
	They never bothered you.
	You've seen bears in person.
	They've never bothered you.
	Me?
	Like, any of us could say, I mean, what are the chances of a man bothering you out in public?
	Would you rather interact with higher than the bear, probably?
	I think it's about the danger, though, is the point here.
	Okay, can we say if a bear was going to attack you and a man was going to attack you, who would you rather attack?
	Like a bear's not going to call me, but like, men will still say bear.
	Because they're dumb.
	Well, the bear will just kill me, but who knows?
	The man could torture me.
	You know, do all kinds of depravitation.
	Is there a difference between you may live, though?
	You know, like bears really, what's the difference?
	That's true.
	And also, the bear will eat you alive.
	Exactly.
	Probably slowly.
	A slow death.
	Yeah.
	So this is kind of.
	You're just kind of crawling there.
	So this is kind of a heavy question, but I'm just really curious to know because I want to better understand the female psyche on this.
	And I don't want to linger on it just because it's kind of heavy.
	But like, so would you rather be essayed or killed?
	Essayed.
	SA'd.
	Essayed.
	SA.
	Essayed.
	Sounds like collectively we all read a Z. Therefore, you choose the man.
	Well, there's no.
	It doesn't make the entire thing.
	I think I'm a rich man, so I can see.
	Yeah.
	Well, you don't have evidence.
	That's the whole part of being in the woods.
	Is like, I mean, I guess you can go get a kit done immediately.
	Wait, can I ask you?
	I would choose the man because I support the Second Amendment.
	Okay, would you rather encounter a female tweaker or a sober man that's like normal?
	A fucking sober man.
	A sober man.
	Sober man.
	Yeah, drug silly one.
	I think some people are crazy.
	I saw some guy peeing on himself the other day.
	I'll take the tweaker.
	In LA.
	You'll take the tweaker?
	Yeah, body slammer.
	I have a question.
	No, they can get back up.
	Listen, I thought a tweet myself.
	I just thought it was a good one.
	I just thought it was a good one.
	They should have kept getting up.
	Okay.
	If there was a bear in your home, let's say you're, I don't know, you're in a fucking cabin or some shit.
	Would you call the police or animal control?
	I call the police.
	I don't know what animal control is.
	If a bear broke into your home, trying to break into your home, smelled some food in there or something.
	Oh no, you left a screen door.
	You left this screen door.
	It opened it up, whatever.
	If there was a bear in a home, would you call the police or animal control?
	Animal control.
	Animal control.
	I'm not asking, would you call the police?
	Or, like, you'd call one of them.
	You could call one of them.
	Yeah, animal control.
	And a man would show up.
	Potentially, potentially.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	That's true.
	All right.
	Anyways, moving on.
	Moving on.
	It's funny.
	A man would show up.
	Maddie, could you read this one?
	My God, I'm simply hosting.
	Oh, sorry.
	Did you mean her?
	Okay.
	You can read it, actually.
	Go ahead.
	My God, I'm simply hosting a simping symposium for the raven-haired goddess.
	The three on the right.
	Yo, okay.
	Who's who's got it?
	There were too many tongue ties in here.
	My God, I'm simply hosting a simple symposium for a raven-haired goddess.
	I already read it.
	Yeah, it's the same one.
	You told me that.
	No, but you didn't finish the whole thing.
	Okay.
	10.
	Sorry.
	8.5.
	Oh, wait.
	Wait, am I on the right too?
	Holy fuck.
	Just finish the fucking paragraph.
	Where do you work out?
	The three on the right.
	It's disappeared.
	Because you all can't.
	Oh, my God.
	They're on the right.
	I told you I'm challenged.
	Okay.
	So, raven-haired goddess, 10.
	Blonde, 5.8.
	Purple, 9.
	A question for the panel.
	Where do you work out?
	In the bedroom.
	I'm sorry.
	That was terrible.
	When's the last time do I work out?
	I just work out at my house.
	When's the last time you got led?
	It's been over.
	I already answered that question.
	Oh, who's the raven-haired?
	That's what's up?
	I don't know.
	That's a black hair.
	I have black hair.
	Black hair is raven-hair?
	Yeah.
	Can you read this, Maddie?
	Alyssa, when have you ever walked around like you're a five?
	Tori, excuse me, Bobby.
	Keep the wook life glorious.
	I have no idea what it is.
	Oh, okay.
	Did he mean look?
	Well, I don't walk around like I'm a five because I know.
	Because I don't just view myself in terms of like looks.
	So I walk around with confidence because I have a lot of great attributes.
	And even if you are ugly, who cares?
	You can still walk around with confidence.
	So I can think my face is a five and my body is a nine or ten and still walk around like you're going to treat me anything less than a ten.
	Wait, who's going to treat you like anything less than a ten?
	Nobody is going to.
	They'll get divorced if they do.
	Oh, so they got to treat you like a 10?
	Yes.
	And I don't think the way you treat somebody should be based upon their looks.
	Well, what does the treatment that treatment entail?
	What does it mean to be treated like that?
	Honesty, integrity.
	So that's the only reason I'm not going to be a decent human being.
	No, I think that's what I'm saying.
	I don't think I'm a 10.
	I think my face is a 5 and I said my body's like an 8 or a 9.
	But despite that, I'm going to be treated like a 10 regardless.
	That's the point that I'm making.
	Period.
	4 is good.
	And being treated like a 10 means that they're not going to cheat on you.
	They're going to respect you.
	They're going to make decisions with you in mind.
	Like basic fucking on-the-floor level things.
	Okay.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	We're going to get into some of our pre-show notes here.
	Actually, you know what?
	Before we do that, I need to get up for just a moment.
	Maddie, do you want to ask your favorite question to ask while I go deal with some stuff?
	The favorite three?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I adjusted to you.
	What's everyone's body count?
	Oh, fuck.
	Where are we starting?
	Yeah, where do you want to?
	Let's start.
	We usually go this, every question.
	So I have terrible memory.
	Just give us the number.
	I have a terrible memory.
	You could do like a range if you don't know how to do it.
	Oh, she does.
	She forgot about some of our hookups together.
	Some of our three things together.
	I literally was like, we did what?
	But I would say, oh.
	Start this side.
	Okay, we'll start with you, I guess.
	I'm in the commentary.
	He wants to be a little bit more than that.
	I'm in the three-digit.
	That's all I'm going to give you.
	It's a high three-digit, but it's up there.
	I'm a recovered sex addict, so I'll just put that out there.
	Oh, yeah.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	My husband knocked the hoe out of me.
	That's how I put it.
	I'd rather not share being shy.
	Oh, come on.
	Range.
	Don't be a prude.
	Come on.
	You'd say like under 10.
	Is it definitely under 10?
	Okay, so then you're fine.
	You are a prude.
	Probably.
	Six.
	I don't know exactly, but we were talking about it last night, but I've had like a series of monogamous relationships mostly.
	So I would say like under 25, but more likely under 20.
	I think it's over 40.
	I have mommy and daddy issues, so it's been a long learning journey, but I feel grateful because I've learned a lot about what I like sexually from my experiences and what I do not like.
	And for me, I was going to say, if we're counting men, women, and like scene partners.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I have a little bitty tiny voice.
	So if we're counting men, women, and scene partners, it's at least 50, but maybe closer to 100.
	Because I have bad memories.
	At least.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure.
	We'll do men in one part.
	Well, definitely majority men because they're easier, and I'm shy with the ladies, you know?
	So, like, how many of the 50 to 100 do you think are men?
	The percentage would probably be like 80.
	Oh, and then like the other percentage, 20.
	Yeah, I have less female than men in my number.
	I'm bisexual too, but I have zero women on my docket.
	So you're not really bisexual?
	You want to add one?
	I'm by myself.
	Yeah!
	Wait, is everyone here bisexual?
	I don't think so.
	I am.
	She is.
	She is.
	Who's in that?
	Then you're just a little bit of a drink.
	Well, I'm just a lot of people.
	She's had some in between.
	Like, I literally don't even remember.
	We've been like three.
	Maybe we have three sons, but she's not bisexual.
	Would you say, like, most of your bodies were with her?
	I love that's coming.
	That was only three occasions.
	Okay.
	It's not out here just like tag demon all the time or anything like that.
	Sounds like they're going out murdering people.
	You're like, how many bodies have you gotten?
	What's your body?
	Just bagging people right in the middle.
	That's why they both chose men because they actually want to murder the men.
	I have a serious question.
	I have a serious question for you guys.
	Do you if you're dating a guy and he tells you that he's had his dick sucked a bunch of times by a bunch of different dudes, including his best friend, is he gay?
	Yes.
	He's at least.
	Does he like men?
	Yes, of course he does.
	I think it's different from men and women.
	Like, I feel like in society, like, right, like it's more accepted for women to sleep with other women.
	Like, I've slept with a couple women, but I don't really consider myself bisexual.
	But I was like, I'm curious.
	And like, it didn't traumatize me, right?
	Like, I didn't like question myself.
	Where I feel like if guys have an experience like that, like, it's not as accepted.
	Like, yeah.
	Like, I ended a pretty serious relationship because I found out a man that I was dating had like gone down on another guy in college, which is so dumb.
	I didn't judge him for it.
	But after he shared that, I just like saw him differently.
	No one was doing it.
	Okay, but on one hand, given that it is so like against societal norms and they still did it, they looked at it.
	You know what I've heard also?
	I don't disagree.
	Why do you last?
	I mean, they should have the space to get it.
	To go here, though.
	I learned a judgment for me that killed it.
	I just had an experience.
	I've heard that men are actually better.
	We're talking over each other.
	Wait, your current guy?
	No comment.
	Not the current guy.
	Oh.
	Not the current guy, but if I said which one it was, then I.
	Well, I'm not going to say who, but someone that I was with is now dating a trans woman who has a penis.
	Yay.
	So is that gay?
	Do y'all think that's bisexual?
	I think it's a bit of a pencil.
	I think it is if you think it's bisexual.
	Sexual encounters.
	I think if they have a penis, it's like they have the gender parts.
	If you're a man who enjoys dick, then you are definitely a little bit gay.
	And like, I think it's a little bit more than that.
	Okay, so here's the nuance on my taking that.
	I think a man can want a woman to peg him and it still be straight because they have a G-spot.
	Wait, what?
	Say that again?
	Yeah, that means that.
	I think a man who wants a woman to like peg him, I don't think that's gay because I think it is.
	But I think you sleep with a man who has testosterone running through his body on a fucking biological hormonal level, you're bisexual at least.
	I think maybe it's not like gay, but it's definitely like gay behavior.
	It is gay.
	I mean, it's a gay fantasy.
	Wait, we're not allowed to have tendencies.
	It's not straight activity.
	It's not non-straight.
	That's fair.
	Do you think that about like gay means happy, but what I've heard.
	I think it's a little sus.
	I do think it's a little sus.
	Only because the guys that I've been with who were super into anal.
	I found one trying to hook up with men on Craigslist.
	And then the other one is now in a relationship with a trans woman who has a penis.
	And maybe it's a very clear law.
	If your dude has any penetration to a guy, Mr. Meatball dropping the knowledge.
	It's like a dominant submissive thing.
	Like, I don't want a man.
	What if I penetrated his heart with my love?
	No, but I've heard that men are actually better at going down on other men than women are.
	What's your next question?
	Because they know.
	They know more.
	That's what I've heard.
	I leave for three minutes and they're talking about.
	Okay, well, she's had like some guy in the past that has went down on other guys.
	She's also another way.
	But had lots of guys go down on him.
	Yeah.
	Wait, we went all the way around on body count.
	Yeah.
	What was every can I hear it again?
	I hold on.
	Over 50, closer to 100.
	Over 40.
	About 20.
	No, just let them say it themselves, please.
	So let's start with you.
	Go ahead.
	Triple digit.
	I don't want to share.
	Do you want to do a range?
	She said under very low.
	Under 90.
	Very low, but I'd just rather not.
	Six.
	I feel like under 20.
	Like over 40.
	Less than what?
	Over 40, less than 60.
	Less than 60, okay.
	And then she said this one 60 or something.
	She said 50 to 100.
	Oh, 50 to 100.
	Okay.
	Good times.
	All right.
	They must have had good times.
	Were they good times?
	They had 100.
	Me.
	Are you asking me?
	Were they good times?
	Are we awesome?
	Well, we're not good.
	Yeah, because I'm wondering those experiences, if they're qualified.
	So really quick, I'll just wait.
	So one of the flakes we put, Nick, can you pull up the thumbnail really quick?
	Guys, so we have one of the flakes in the thumbnail.
	And once we're done with it, you can exile that.
	Okay, she's the one with the blue hair.
	We obviously have the, I guess, the raven-haired girl and the pink-haired girl here.
	So we're going to just do a little reaction to the thumbnail since she's not here.
	There's a couple pieces of criticism and commentary I have on this thumbnail and on this photo.
	First off, gentlemen, would you date a woman who has a sternum tattoo, has an under-titty tattoo, who has, I believe, fake lips?
	They look a little fake to me, a little puffy.
	Fake contacts.
	Purple.
	And then the blue, it's obviously a wig.
	A blue bob.
	So, and I am possibly detecting nipple piercing.
	So, chat, would you date a woman like this?
	I can speak personally.
	There's absolutely no scenario where I would ever date a woman like that.
	I might even throw up in my mouth a little bit if I even encountered such a person, especially if they're inclined to no-show to a commitment that they requested.
	There might be a little vomit in the back of my mouth.
	So, would you, I'm just curious, guys, would you like, would you date her, chat?
	Like, that's, you know, you know, just wanting your guys's input.
	Okay.
	Tell me why I thought that was her for a second, John.
	Samson, and that was a good one.
	Before I have you go, so your body count is between 50 and 100?
	And is it, you said it's like mixed girls, guys, kind of?
	Yeah, like 80, 20, mostly guys.
	Okay, go ahead, Madison.
	Oh, I was saying, like, if you had to date a girl like her and one of those bad things had to go, which would you?
	What do you mean?
	One of the bad things?
	The sternum tattoo, the nipple piercings.
	What's worse?
	Like, if you had to pick one to go.
	Like, only one could go, the rest has to stay.
	That's still pretty shitty.
	How about just being a terrible human being?
	How about that?
	That happens.
	Time management.
	Why did y'all pick the most masculine-looking picture of me?
	I look like the lesbian in that picture.
	It's a good photo.
	I like the beanie.
	It's a good look for you.
	Okay.
	Because I got a big-ass forehead.
	That's probably why.
	No, no, no.
	I do have a bigger forehead.
	If I was rich, I would definitely get like a hair transplant or something.
	So my forehead would have been.
	Your hair is fine.
	Is that the second one that fell?
	That was in like the tables on the ground.
	Okay.
	Well, can you hear?
	Why did it.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Fuck this table.
	Okay.
	I was thinking the same thing.
	I can't.
	That's physically impossible.
	Stop.
	Can I have you read this one, please?
	Wow.
	Can you have her read this tongue twister also?
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	She sells seashells down by the seashore.
	How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
	Canson clams clamp.
	Can't believe me.
	That was good.
	I really tried.
	I have like a little bit of a speech impediment as well.
	So that's.
	Yo, kill of cereal.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	That was a perfect test.
	I would like to actually test these women's typing speed, like words per minute.
	So one of these days, I'm just going to get a keyboard and let them do like a typing test and see their words per minute.
	I typed in two fingers.
	I type in two.
	I can type pretty well.
	Just like I hit this.
	Do you guys know what your words per minute?
	Literally like four fingers.
	Like 20, 30 words per minute or something.
	I used to know that.
	I started to low feminine classes.
	I'm old enough that I took a typing class in high school, so mine was up to 60 words per minute.
	Nice.
	That's a good memory.
	I cannot remember shit from last week.
	I'm going to get into the pre-show notes here.
	Actually, we did the stiffler.
	We had, I guess, a couple times.
	I'm just going to hide those.
	Pre-show notes.
	So starting with Juliet, you wanted to talk about the ways in which modern feminism is actually harming both men and women and keeping us from what we actually are seeking.
	Do you want to add anything to that?
	Do you want to elaborate at all?
	Oh man, you jumped right in.
	I wasn't ready.
	Okay.
	I think that it's been really interesting for me.
	Over the years, like the dating climate was very different.
	I'm 38 now.
	So when I was single, you know, like 10, 15 years ago, it was a very, very different world.
	And I feel like with, it's not just feminism in general, because I feel like that has a lot of meanings, right?
	Like feminism 30 years ago meant something very different than it does now.
	But I think especially with modern feminism, I feel like men and women, women especially more for some reason in my opinion, have lost sight.
	And I know we talked about this earlier of what the other is actually looking for when it comes to long-term partnership.
	I'm not talking about short-term casual stuff.
	I think that's been really interesting for me.
	And yeah, I think it's a different world.
	And I think that there are a lot of women who are doing OnlyFans and sex work and all that kind of stuff and really enjoy it and are super happy.
	And I think that's awesome.
	I've also seen the flip side of it too.
	So I'd love to hear your ladies' perspectives on that.
	I don't know what your experiences have been.
	You seem like you're really happy with it, which is awesome.
	I fully support that.
	I'm very, I guess, kind of libertarian in that sense.
	I'm kind of like, do what you want.
	But I also agree with Brian and kind of some other people who have been on the show where I've also seen the dark side of it.
	And I think going back to mommy and daddy issues, I think we laugh a lot about that.
	But I do think there's a lot more research coming out about how we were raised and how those family dynamics determine not just how we value ourselves, but what we tolerate and seek in those intimate relationships.
	That's number one.
	I think that secondly, I think that as I've gotten older, I think that sex means different things to different people, right?
	Like for some people, I feel like sex is about getting off.
	And I feel like for other people, it's more about intimacy and connection.
	And yes, like chemistry is very important.
	I know, especially like with my next partner, like if that chemistry isn't there, I'm not interested.
	I do feel like that's kind of the glue that holds everything together.
	But I also think that sex is different for men than it is for women a lot of the time.
	And people denying that, I'm not saying one necessarily needs it more than the other, but it means something different.
	I feel like men can have sex and not get emotionally attached.
	I'm not saying women can't, but I do think that there is a biological predisposition there.
	Yes, they quite literally produce dopamine and vasopressin as opposed to women producing more oxytocins.
	Agreed.
	And I don't think that has to do with feminism.
	I think there's some biology there that a lot of people these days, maybe with social media, maybe with new wave feminism, they're just denying that.
	And I think it's causing a lot of harm.
	And I feel like such a lame prude saying that.
	And 15 years ago, I was never super promiscuous, but I definitely had a very different mindset about it.
	I was more kind of like re-spirited just in my mentality.
	And I've really changed the older I've gotten.
	So I'd be interested to hear other ladies' perspectives on that.
	So wait, do you think that modern feminity or feminism is like ruining sexual relationships between men and women?
	Definitely.
	Interesting.
	In some ways, yes.
	In some ways, yes.
	And I'm not like anti-sex.
	I'm all for like, I have no issue with that.
	I really don't have any shame issues around that.
	Can you give an example?
	Like an example of how it's ruining.
	How you think, yeah.
	It's an objective fact that second wave feminism contributed greatly to hookup culture.
	Yes.
	So she just pissed me on the head.
	That's a really good point.
	So for example, there's a lot of research coming out and that's my bad for not like being able to cite my sources.
	So I apologize, but I think it's pretty easy to look this up.
	But a lot of the men that are on dating apps, maybe some of the women too, generally speaking, they're not really seeking long-term partnership.
	The people, it doesn't matter if it's Hinge or Tinter or Plenty of Fish.
	I'm not saying that people can't meet on those apps and end up finding like the love of their life.
	I know that that happens.
	All I can speak on is anecdotally.
	I'm not a scientist, but from my experience and 38 years of life, right, from a sexual marketplace value standpoint, 38 is kind of old.
	I don't feel old, but like, you know, I have to think like logically.
	Like, just from what I've seen, like, it's, it's just a very different world.
	Oh, sorry.
	And, and yeah, I just feel like this idea that women can casually have sex and hook up with a lot of people and just detach themselves emotionally from that.
	And I'm not even talking about drugs or alcohol.
	I don't think that's actually possible.
	And I do know that the one or two one-night stands that I've had in my life, I was lying to myself, pretending that I didn't feel anything or I didn't care.
	And I'm very, very grateful.
	That's one of the few things I got really right in my life is figuring that out super early on because I do think it saved me, despite my family upbringing not being perfect or my mom and dad making mistakes.
	That's one thing I'm so grateful I learned early on in life because I do think it saved me a lot of pain and trauma.
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	B.
	The woman prattle is unbearable.
	The patriarchy is standing by.
	I can be in the studio ready to remote in in five minutes, which might prevent us all from being bored to death with all this prattle.
	Hey, Grid One Motorsports, thank you, man.
	Just for the sake of moving things along, we're just going to continue on as is.
	But good to have you in the stream, man.
	We will get you eventually on the call.
	And I'd rather like pre-schedule it instead of it being sort of impromptu and spontaneous.
	But we will get you on the show eventually, my man.
	Whether it's in person or a call-in or something, I'd just rather plan it ahead of time than just impromptu spontaneous.
	But good to hear you in the chat, man.
	Well, you mentioned feminism really quick.
	So why don't I ask, going around the table, who here is a feminist?
	Starting with you?
	I don't like claim any kind of side, but I guess if you ask me questions, I probably have some takes that are on either side.
	No, I wouldn't say I am.
	So you wouldn't say you're a feminist?
	No, I wouldn't say I'm a feminist.
	It's just like I'm non-denominational.
	I wouldn't say I'm a feminist.
	No, I'm not a feminist.
	I am.
	Not a feminist.
	Can I ask you to define what that means?
	Well, I mean, there's different definitions.
	People define it differently.
	There's a couple different charitable definitions I could give it.
	The way I've described it in the past is, and this is a charitable, excuse me, charitable definition: feminism is women's, it's a woman's advocacy movement.
	In that sense, I would say no.
	It's not an equality movement.
	That's fair.
	And I actually don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with women's advocacy, but it's certainly not, in my view, it's not an equality movement.
	Well, to quote Jordan Peterson, I do think it's like equal opportunity is important, but the guaranteed outcome is not fair.
	So yeah, I do think that men and women should have equal rights.
	Absolutely.
	There should be laws in place to protect women.
	I'm all for that.
	But the second thing is that.
	Well, why should there be?
	When you say there should be laws in place to protect women, what do you mean?
	Because that doesn't sound like equality.
	If the laws are only to protect women, that's not really egalitarian, is it?
	Fair.
	I should have clarified.
	Like a family setting, like with children or something like that.
	Or maybe the fact that women were the ones who lacked the same equal rights.
	So that's why there wasn't a grand.
	Like, even objectively, I'm not a feminist, and I see a lot of issues, particularly with second-wave feminism.
	But yeah, like you, you're not saying that men shouldn't also have rights.
	You're just saying that women had to catch up to the same rights.
	Yes, but wanting to be there.
	But right now, I think it's fair to say, like, it goes back to the trans debate, too.
	Sorry to bring that.
	Sorry, is that a word I'm not allowed to say on here?
	The transcession?
	Okay.
	Like, are there any laws that these people don't have that we have now?
	Or, I mean, just keep it to men and women, but I feel like men and women do have legally the same rights right now for the most part.
	Yeah.
	So I feel like I think it's fair that we can probably stop at that.
	But I think the whole idea of men being trash or evil or bad or pieces of shit, I really can't get on board with that.
	Racism.
	Yeah.
	Are you sure?
	It's like a million.
	CPR ICE $1,824 donated $200.
	Pardon, I missed the intro, so I don't know your name.
	But divorce, I'd like I shot at the title.
	At the title of what?
	Like my next husband?
	Yeah, I don't get it.
	Yeah, you're shooting a shot.
	We have her Instagram.
	What you look like, are you smart?
	Are you going to try behind a screen?
	See, Price, she's open-minded.
	She's asking if you're smart, what's your IQ, and she also wants to know your PP size.
	So please include that in your next chat.
	She's dying to know all these things.
	Okay, so feminists, some feminists, you're feminist.
	Okay, good to know.
	We'll touch on feminism a little later on in the show.
	You said in your pre-show notes, men being unwilling to commit and expecting physical intimacy without commitment.
	But you can't blame them given the current climate, how women are conducting themselves.
	But you're raised relatively traditionally, so it's been a real challenge for you.
	Just a question for you.
	Do you want kids?
	That's a good question.
	I feel like I would need to have the right partner.
	Like, I would never want to be a single mother, just personal preference.
	I think that'd be really challenging.
	And I think also statistically, the studies do show that children do thrive best with both a mother and a father.
	So would I just want a kid to have a kid?
	No, if I met a man in the next couple of years who wanted a child and he was the right person, yes, I would consider that.
	But I don't really want to have a kid after 40.
	You don't want to have it.
	Well, what if you did meet that right guy after 40?
	I would just have to really consider that.
	I think there's some health risks there.
	And I think I physically could.
	Right.
	Well, would you want?
	It would not be my preference.
	Okay.
	No.
	You said you're off.
	Doc Venerbilly donated $200.
	Men with the dark texture and women with cluster B are more likely to engage in short-term mating strategies.
	Feminism has helped normalize all this mental pathology.
	That's totally true.
	Well put.
	Yep.
	Very good point.
	Thank you, Doc Venable.
	Good to see you in the chat, man.
	You're a legend.
	You also said that you're a business owner.
	You're a relatively high earner.
	You're a very driven person.
	So finding a man who can match an ideally top that who's also interested in monogamy isn't easy.
	So you're a business owner.
	You say you're relatively high earner.
	I don't know if you want to give us a range in terms of income.
	Sure.
	I'm assuming it's six figures.
	Yeah, I mean, there have been years where we've brought in half a million.
	Yeah.
	Well, in revenue or in profit?
	Profit.
	Okay.
	Who's we?
	Me.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm a corporation.
	So do you have partners or is it?
	No.
	What's your business?
	For privacy reasons, I'd rather not say just because somebody's.
	Maybe don't say the name, but is it a marketing, like marketing consulting?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	It's just, yeah.
	So you're making mid to or low to mid six figures in that range?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	You said you've had to teach yourself what it means to be feminine and follow not for the right man, but in general.
	And you're learning how to become the kind of woman that the kind of man I'm looking for would see it worthwhile to commit to.
	Required a lot of change and self-reflection on your part.
	So how were you before and how, what, what did you change?
	Just kind of, I think, unaware of myself in a lot of ways, in ways that I was not really appearing masculine physically, but kind of acting very masculine, if that makes sense.
	Was this before or after the tattoos?
	Oh, this was way before.
	Before you got tattoos.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Because it just, it's interesting.
	Me, you said, I mean, you're 38 now and you had no tattoos, and then was it 34, 35?
	35, and you're right, that's a good point.
	It was a very kind of, I don't want to say a limiting choice, but in some ways a limiting choice for sure.
	But a concession that I pretty consciously chose to make.
	Wait, what's the concession?
	I think that it limits your dating pool.
	I think there's a lot of associations with women who have tattoos, which I totally understand.
	So then, I guess why did you opt to get the tattoos?
	Because I think that I got a very clear idea of my values and relatives.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I think there are a lot of other ways, aside from just how you look physically, that you can embody feminine energy as a woman in the sense of letting a man lead, really learning to defer in that way and fully trust someone.
	And I think a lot of that has to do with doing work on yourself and has absolutely very little to do with tattoos.
	But I am aware of how that can come across visually.
	But I think that just seeing the kind of people that I am attracting into my life now professionally as friends, it's been a real indicator that I'm on the right path to getting to where I'm going.
	And the tattoos, I would not say, have affected that in a negative way.
	Now, you said your seven-year relationship ended four years ago and you've been single for four years.
	In fact, you've stated that you've been celibate for that entire four-year period, but you are an attractive woman.
	So, I mean, I'm imagining that there are men who have demonstrated an interest in you.
	Do you feel as if your standards are too high?
	Thank you.
	Or.
	That's possible.
	I think it's always possible, right?
	Like that we're expecting something that's more than maybe what we're worthy of.
	But I also think a big factor of that is I was kind of a serial monogamist from the time I was like 19, 20 onwards.
	I was always in like a long-term committed relationship.
	And I had never really taken the time since I was younger and I lost my virginity to really, it sounds really cliche, but actually just be by myself and like learn to not like need a partner romantically.
	And taking the time to do that in my 30s the last couple years, I don't think it's so much that I'm like seeking these men and then being rejected so much.
	It's more that like I'm not in a rush to get into something where the person doesn't have the values that I'm looking for.
	It's not really so much about like this guy needs to be 6'2 and making a million dollars.
	And like that, that really doesn't matter to me so much.
	It's more just like I'm looking for a very specific set of values and I'm not willing to compromise on those values.
	And because I embody those values, I don't feel like I'm shooting too high.
	And I hope that makes sense.
	It's more about standards to have.
	It's more about integrity.
	It's less like the guy needs to be like rich and really hot.
	Like that would be nice, but it's actually a different set of things that I'm looking for at this point in my life.
	But in your pre-show notes, you said that you're a business owner, relatively high earner.
	We talked about that.
	You're a very driven person.
	So finding a man who can match and ideally top that, who's also interested in monogamy, so that does speak to the values thing.
	Yes.
	But it does seem like you do at the very least want a guy.
	Would you say you want a guy who, in terms of his income, makes as much or more than you?
	The woman in me does, but I understand too that that might not be realistically possible for me, especially at 38, right?
	Like because a lot of those men are statistically going to be going for younger women, which I totally respect and that's their preference and it makes perfect sense to me.
	But would it be nice if I met someone who matched that drive?
	And when I say drive, I don't necessarily just mean financial drive.
	As long as they can support themselves and they're like stable.
	It's more drive and their ambitious, right?
	And how ambitious they are and their tenacity and also just having a vision for their life.
	That's important to me.
	All right.
	Got it.
	Moving to Tavia.
	You said you've dated a sexy fireman from Spain that you met in Bali, Indonesia.
	Yeah.
	You dated a married couple that are open.
	So you were like the third wheel or what do you call that?
	Unicorn?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Are they still together?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	You wanted to maybe we'll touch on that thing later.
	You said you don't.
	Oh, here's something you disagree on.
	You don't agree with all the discussion about women's and men's roles in relationships.
	So I wanted to ask, what specifically?
	Well, I think one time...
	Yeah, loading, loading.
	Loading, yeah.
	I think one time I like opened up like your podcast and I was like scrolling through and there was just like controversy on like would a man want to be with someone that does sex work?
	And and I was just like what kind of question is that?
	Because everybody's so different.
	Like why does that one factor matter?
	I feel like someone's job.
	It's like why would?
	Why would a woman that's young like me, want to marry a guy that works a nine-to-five office job?
	I mean, to me that seems kind of boring, you know, like why not a sexy fireman?
	I mean, everybody has a different.
	Why would it be boring to marry a guy who works a nine to five?
	Isn't that a perfectly respectful career path?
	To me it's just boring.
	So the same objection you have to wanting to date a man who's a blue collar worker, for example, who works nine to five, why can't men have the exact same objection to dating a woman who fucks other people on camera?
	No no well, I'm just saying I don't like the talk.
	Like if the question was like why would a man want to date a sex worker, it's like well, you could ask that question about anything like why, why would you want to date someone from Walmart, why would you want to date someone who works at a pet store why?
	But everybody's different, you know.
	So that topic was like irritating for me because it was like, why?
	Why is it irritating to you?
	Because it just doesn't in my am I like with the work that I've done, like I've had two people propose to me already and I've said no and I do sex work and it.
	They didn't see me any differently based on that okay.
	So I mean, in terms of the conversations we've had on this show, honestly I kind of don't really care when it comes to if women do sex work on like I don't really care.
	But my prescriptive advice that I give to men is, dating a woman who is involved in sex work or was involved in sex work is a suboptimal dating choice.
	So maybe that's your objection there.
	Men and men and women can have any preferences, standards and boundaries that they want.
	But I mean, let me ask you a question, can you try to argue my position for me?
	So argue, why would somebody not want to date a sex worker like?
	Can you think of any reasons?
	Um, maybe someone that's you about to say insecure?
	It sounded like you're about to say Insecure there.
	No, I'm not asking what's wrong with that person.
	I'm saying, what would be some reasons why somebody would not like negative consequences of dating someone who's involved in sex work?
	Maybe someone that has a business and they don't want that, the idea of their partner to like ruin their reputation.
	Sure.
	Okay, that's a good one.
	Yeah.
	Someone that doesn't want to share their person with somebody else with anybody else.
	Okay, what anything else?
	Oh, it's valid.
	Yeah.
	Well, thank you for making my argument for me, but it's valid.
	I just don't like that it's like a common topic.
	That's just always irritating to me.
	Like, why is it always like, why would a man want to be with a sex worker?
	Well, here, look, just to be charitable, just to be charitable.
	Women who do sex work invariably will probably, there's a bit of a cope when it comes to this conversation.
	I think if a woman's involved in sex work, she'll probably find a guy.
	Like, this whole cope of like, she's going to be a cat lady and never find a man.
	It's cope, especially if she's, you know, attractive and not a total piece of shit.
	She'll probably find a guy.
	However, I will say, and in terms of prescriptive advice to men that I give, I don't recommend it.
	I don't recommend men date sex workers.
	I think it's a sub-optimal dating choice.
	And sometimes you're not always going to get the most optimum partner in your life, but it is significantly sub-optimal for various reasons.
	And I think the other thing is, just slipped my mind.
	Slipped my mind.
	But, anyways, yeah.
	Can I ask you, can I ask you, please, what are your reasons for why it's suboptimal?
	Like, why would you?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, she gave some reasons.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay.
	Yeah, I'll give you a couple.
	So, first off, for example, women who do OnlyFans, and I actually try not to bring this topic up, just to be, I suppose, courteous to the women if we do have OnlyFans girls on the show, just not to throw your hustle totally under the fucking bus.
	But y'all become very well practiced in deception and manipulation and lying.
	Here's why.
	Because most of you sell the girlfriend experience and you basically commit, in my estimation, you commit fraud by saying, I'm talking to you.
	I'm not saying all OnlyFans girls do this, but most of them do.
	The bigger they are, the more likely they are to have, for example, a typer or to have a chatter.
	But you're advertising yourself as saying, I'm talking to you.
	So you become very well versed in fraud and lying.
	And you have no issue with it whatsoever.
	So you become accustomed and adjusted to making small lies, and small lies become big lies.
	So that's one of my issues that I have with it.
	Most of these sex workers are incredibly attuned to manipulation and lying.
	Can I defend just my personal experience?
	Actually, don't we have a tweet related?
	Some girl had a tweet about this.
	Fuck, hold on.
	Let me see if I don't know.
	Oh, man.
	I don't know if we only have one tweet, right, Nick?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Ah, man.
	I could have sworn that I'm going to double check, but do you guys acknowledge that girls who do OnlyFans have typers?
	Yes, many of them.
	Many of them.
	Many of them do.
	That's the ones that are like online.
	What do they even put in their bio?
	You can talk to me, right?
	Yeah, I don't mind that.
	That's a fact.
	I'm very fraud.
	I'm very against having management companies and all that stuff.
	Sure.
	So that's one of my justifications for it.
	In addition to that, OnlyFans girls will typically hide the fact that they're in a relationship.
	So, you just become very well versed and practiced in your deception and manipulation.
	Because if you were honest about the fact that you're dating a guy or you're married or you have a relationship, it would hurt your bottom line.
	Secondly, when it comes to the typing and chatting thing, if you were telling the guys, by the way, it's some dude in Bangladesh who's getting paid $5 a day to be sexting with you and you're sexting with the dude, it would hurt your bottom line.
	So, you're doing this sort of fraudulent misrepresentation.
	On that level, I object to it.
	In addition, in terms of the actual content that you're making, and I actually think the fraudulent misrepresentation is worse than the fact that there's nude photos of you floating around the internet.
	Same, we agree on that.
	So, for example, people on sales.
	Huh?
	What about people on sales?
	What do you think about them?
	If they're if they're fraudulently, if they're making fraudulent claims and they're enticing people, it's called fraudulent, I think it's fraudulent inducement into a wait, fraudulent misrepresentation.
	I can't remember the specific legal term, but it could open someone up to civil liability if they lie about their product.
	True, but people on sales, I feel like, do it all the time.
	Well, so there's something, there's a sales principle called puffery, like leaving things out of the well.
	I mean, it depends.
	It depends what you're doing or fraud if something is intentionally left out.
	Can I interject?
	When making a sale?
	Can I interject?
	Because here's the thing: I used to work for Jenny Craig for three and a half years as a program director.
	I'm not selling lies, I'm selling hope and like the fascination that they're going to be able to lose weight, right?
	You are instilling hope and faith in these men that they have a shot with you.
	So, I think that's part of what Brian is saying, too.
	Sort of like, you guys are painting this fantasy, like, oh, baby, I only want you.
	I'm only thinking of you.
	You're gaslighting them.
	I think everybody's almost all men do to women so that they can get into their pants.
	That's 90% of women.
	Okay, so if I can acknowledge that that's wrong, can you acknowledge that women doing it is also wrong?
	I absolutely agree with you.
	I don't have a I'm not disagreeing with you on that.
	Okay.
	But I just think that the standard should be the same for men when it comes to their interactions with women because they will also act like, oh, I want to be with you when they really just want to sleep with somebody.
	But they're not going to pay for it.
	Don't the men already have this understanding?
	We know the money that gets paid in our lives.
	We know some men that get paid for it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Do these men actually buy into the thought that these women are interested in them?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, how much money are they spending?
	I think it's genuinely a fetish for men that they want.
	That's not degradation.
	I mean, and I think at the same time, it's also, in a way, healthy for men that, you know, need some sort of somebody to talk to.
	And like, for me, that's what I make my platform about.
	Like, you have like a place to come and be yourself and express when you're lonely.
	While you're naked and fingering yourself.
	And only talking about them, not me.
	But like, I think sex work is super important because I think if we didn't have it, that there would be a lot of men that have needs that aren't getting met, and that makes things dangerous.
	So your argument is if there wasn't sex work, that men would just be on a rampage just like essaying chicken.
	Exactly.
	50%.
	I think it would be scary.
	I mean, that's what porn is for.
	The only difference between OnlyFans and porn is that they get a reaction from you as opposed to porn.
	That's the only difference.
	I mean, you are technically porn.
	That's what OnlyFans are at.
	Exactly.
	Can I ask you something, Brian?
	Do you support capitalism?
	Oh, you're a libertarian.
	Okay, I know where you're going.
	Yeah, I'm in favor of capitalism.
	Okay, so there's a market for OnlyFans.
	So do you equally hold the men who create the market accountable?
	Yeah, I mean, I don't hold these men who like pay for these girls, OnlyFans in high regard.
	Right, but let's say your guy friend comes to you and he's like, I want to get this girl's OnlyFans.
	Are you just saying, well, you shouldn't because she's X, Y, and Z?
	Or should you, or are you also like, hey, like, you should probably contribute to society in a better way than creating this market which objectifies women and can lead to all the negative things that you talk about.
	Well, there's supply and demand, right?
	So if you're a capitalist, yeah, I don't have anything wrong with capitalism.
	I don't actually, frankly, I don't give a fuck about sex work.
	But from, I look at it from a dating lens.
	So my prescriptive advice to men is don't date a woman who has photos of herself fucking other men on camera.
	And I think that's fine.
	I'm just wondering if you also tell men, like, hey, you probably shouldn't be subscribing to them.
	I don't have a double standard on this.
	Okay.
	Ladies, if you don't want to die.
	Not everyone that does OnlyFans fucks men on camera.
	That's fine, but it's not like I have a double standard on this.
	Women, if you don't want to date a man who's a porn star, that's totally fine.
	I don't have like so this is kind of not like a gendered thing necessarily, but I just really, I think like when it comes to dominance in a man, I find it way like I find it way more attractive and way more dominant when a man holds other men accountable.
	Like that's when I view a man as a real leader.
	It's easy for men to sit around and be like, you shouldn't want a woman who does da-da-da.
	But it's harder for a man to be like, hey, homie, you probably shouldn't be subscribing to this shit.
	I make this prescriptive claim all the time.
	I say, men, you shouldn't even be following women on Instagram.
	You shouldn't, I don't follow any girls on Instagram.
	You shouldn't be liking their shit, simping for them, leaving fucking lame-ass comments.
	That's me holding men accountable.
	Men should not do that.
	They shouldn't be paying for OF.
	They shouldn't be subscribing to it.
	But like, I don't really give a like, would look, would society probably be better if there wasn't like porn and sex work?
	Probably.
	At the end of the day, though, I'm not like, I typically, that's why I'm when I do have OF girls or sex workers on, I'm typically not making actual like criticisms of that specifically.
	It's always from a dating friend, a dating lens where I'm basically saying, guys, suboptimal to date a woman who has an OnlyFans.
	And you're saying it's because of the characteristics.
	They're a porn star.
	No, porn's worse.
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	I mean, while OF is there, I mean, if she just does traditional porn and then she does OF, there's like different considerations there.
	I mean, look, most of these OF girls are just like constant liars.
	They lie about everything.
	We've had them on the show.
	They lie about their age.
	They lie about everything.
	They make up stories for content, blah, blah, blah.
	It's why I'm.
	In any case, so look, I think it is suboptimal.
	So, yeah, I don't know.
	That's just.
	Oh, here's the other.
	I mean, the other reason, I mean, I kind of already touched on it.
	As a woman, your future husband and children will not appreciate naked photos of you being available on the internet.
	There's like the potential for bullying for the child.
	Don't have to.
	And just as somebody.
	They're around me, Paul donated $200.
	Thank you.
	Brian is right on the money.
	He's a brave man.
	Thank you, Mr. Vee.
	He's a pioneer.
	Good to have you back, man.
	Good to have you back.
	Thank you, bro.
	Look, I mean, you're doing it.
	It is what it is.
	But, yeah.
	That's a great comment.
	I think these type of conversations also come up really often because a lot of the sex workers that we have had on the show are like struggling really hard to find someone.
	Christ is Lord Ski U4 donated $200.
	So the sex industry is helping men.
	The human race got along just fine without hardcore corn for literally all human history for thousands of years.
	Is our society evolving or unraveling?
	Unraveling.
	Unraveling is what's happening.
	We are unraveling.
	They were hosting like sex parties.
	There's like mentions of all kinds of orgies and landscapes.
	I mean the rounds and all kinds of things.
	Slabs and shit.
	Yeah, go back to Greece, man.
	They was fucking everywhere.
	I mean, honestly, then naked women were considered art.
	They just statues everywhere.
	It was a lot of fun.
	I mean, you could argue that it's about the same.
	You could argue that without the same thing's happening now, except they're recording it and selling it.
	You could say that without corn, they were doing more in-person stuff.
	Killer of cereal donated $200.
	Car salesman with a perfect junker.
	Jewelry salesman pushing a flawless necklace.
	An insurance salesman with a bulletproof deal.
	An OF girl with the wettest content.
	Tell me hard her daddy.
	Yeah, I mean, look, to your point about, you know, holding men accountable, I don't think they should be subscribing to OnlyFans.
	I don't think that they should be following these IG models on Instagram.
	Eula sees the pagan donated $200.
	The current CEO of OF Keely Blair, female running a corn site.
	Females just as well can be dirt balls.
	Is the CEO of OF?
	I thought it was a guy.
	Oh, no, the owners are men of OnlyFans.
	Well, we know that women can't.
	I'll do a call to action right now.
	I'll do a call to action to men right now.
	We'll start perhaps with something simple.
	To all the guys who are watching right now, take out your phone.
	If you guys...
	Yo, stay safe.
	Thank you for the raid, dude.
	Appreciate it, man.
	You're a fucking legend.
	We're talking about degeneracy.
	Literal.
	Guys, open up Twitch, Nick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
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	So if you play World of Warcraft, what that means for your dating prospects.
	I play World of Warcraft.
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	Drop us a little follow in the chats.
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	Thank you again for the raid, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	I forgot what we were talking about.
	We were talking about social deviancy.
	Oh, I was going to do a call to action.
	Okay, call to action.
	There's any men watching, if you have Instagram and you're following any women, I guess if it's like your sister, you can stay following her.
	You can follow your sister and your mom.
	That's it.
	What about comedians?
	What if they're interested in one specific woman and they're not just simping for random?
	Still unfollow that.
	She's that.
	You'd not allow them to be interested in men.
	Brian, what about Brian?
	Unfollow.
	If you pull out your fucking phone, boys, unfollow anyone.
	No, it's not.
	Look on Instagram if you're not following any hot girls.
	And somebody's red flag.
	I'm not following red flag.
	I follow.
	I know.
	I'm following one person.
	Three, four, five, six.
	Yeah, Durin.
	Thank you for the gifted 10 subs.
	Guys, just unfollow all these IG models and all that shit.
	It's like, well, that's not the majority of women.
	Hold on.
	No, like the majority of them.
	It doesn't matter.
	Even if it's a normie chick, unfollow her.
	What if you, like, know her?
	Oh my god, what about you go to work with her and you want to comedians or people who have the platform to progress entertainment that's not sexual?
	If you're following Hillary Clinton, you can stay following Hillary Clinton.
	Just kidding, because she blocks her.
	She keeps hot sauce in her purse.
	That's why.
	Nick can easily be able to do it.
	Never mind.
	She's not black.
	We'll just say that.
	Wow.
	Wait, what?
	That's left.
	That was in response to a video where, yeah, the hot sauce thing where she was talking to black people.
	No, she was trying to get cool with them.
	Like just by sex.
	Keep hot sauce about hers.
	Just to reiterate here, kind of my objections to when it comes to dating women who are involved in sex work, when it comes to OnlyFans, you become on a long enough timeline, you become very well versed and practiced in the art of lying and deception.
	Change your name, change your age, lie about your relationship status.
	You lie about everything.
	This starts to become a habit typically.
	If people start becoming practiced in lying, it starts to just you keep, you know, you just keep doing it.
	I'm honest about my age and my relationship and all the other things.
	If an untruth, if that untruth brings you closer to fleecing the money out of the pockets of your targets, you're going to lie.
	And so a lot of these OnlyFans become very well practiced in this.
	Also, some of them are involved in like romance scams.
	They're literally scamming the dudes.
	I'm not saying that's the case for you guys.
	We talked about the typers.
	We talked about the chatters.
	You'll lie about, oh, talk to me, baby.
	And then it's some dude.
	That's like most of these, most of these OF girls have a type or a chatter.
	And it's a dude.
	You're like basically force, you're making these guys gay, basically.
	That's non-tail.
	Are you telling them to unfollow all the women?
	Huh?
	That's not, yeah, you're making them gay.
	That's not gay, but that's very, that's very traditional.
	That's very like, keep it PG all the time unless you're intending to marry this chick.
	Wait, what?
	I don't know.
	That's a very PG.
	That's like a very, I don't know, adolescent perspective to be like, it's very innocent.
	What's innocent?
	I have no idea what you're talking about.
	Innocent to like unfollow every woman that isn't your sister or your mom.
	Wait, innocent?
	Yeah, it's innocent.
	So, wait, are you?
	Do you like it?
	I'm a little confused.
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's innocence is good.
	No, what do you mean?
	I like me better than you.
	You're saying that men unfollowing every other woman is an innocent act?
	It's like a naivety.
	It would be an innocent act, but in this instance...
	Here, seeing as we have Stay Safe, who just joined us, we have...
	Wait, can you guys not be...
	Can you guys?
	What are you fucking doing?
	I'm sorry.
	What are you telling her?
	I can't say it.
	I was telling her something that I wish I could say, but I can't say it because you said we can't say it.
	Well, okay, I was saying if.
	Never mind.
	I won't whisper it anymore.
	Okay, what were you?
	Can you tell me what it was loosely about?
	Well, you guys are talking about if a guy unfollows all women on social media, I was going to say that would make him look pretty.
	You know, in that, like, not straight.
	Exactly.
	It's like, why is this following a bunch of dudes and no women?
	Yay.
	It would be concerning.
	Like, why only dudes?
	It's like the guy's trying to revert to virginity, his holy state.
	But how many women will complain about guys who are following a bunch of random IG thoughts?
	Yeah, if it's just random IG thoughts, then yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, anyone can even care more about it.
	But you said normies too.
	That's where the argument is coming in.
	Anyways, to bring it to work.
	On social media, it's not really real.
	Well, I mean, if you're an OnlyFans model, you can't have a problem with your guy following other women.
	You're an OnlyFans model.
	Yeah.
	It would be a double standard.
	Exactly.
	Like, so if you tell your guy, if you're an OnlyFans model and you're doing all kinds of horny, girly shit on OnlyFans, you know, and then you expect your dude to respect you and not follow other women, you're delusional.
	You're delusional to think that your guy's not going to follow other women.
	Even cares about that?
	Like, why is my dude following other girls?
	Because women are dumb and they do.
	They get upset.
	I've known plenty of people who are like, I can't believe he's following this girl.
	Bitch, you are undressing in front of a bunch of men all over the world.
	How dare you have that even remotely double standard that your guy can't do what you're already doing?
	And you're promoting it and you're pushing it on them.
	And you are manipulating and you are lying and you're deceiving you.
	Because not me.
	My dude watches porn.
	I love it.
	I'm not saying every woman.
	I'm not saying every, but a majority of them.
	I don't know.
	And just the last thing, I'm kind of territorial, so I don't want other men to be like looking at my girl like that.
	A lot of men are.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	I mean, a lot of guys look at a woman and they're automatically thinking things if they're attracted to them.
	You can't be an OnlyFans model and then say you're a monogamist.
	There's just no way.
	You can't, yeah.
	You can't even represent the whole monogamy thing because of what you do.
	Because it is a double standard.
	It's hypocritical.
	It's hypocrisy.
	And you're not just sleeping with anybody else and you're not meeting up with anybody else.
	You're sharing your body.
	You're sharing your body and these personal things that should be only reserved for the person that you're with or married to.
	If you're married and you're an OnlyFans model and you're sharing your body on the internet and I can pay to see your vagina hole, you are not a monogamous woman.
	I'm sorry.
	You're showing your private parts to other people who are not your husband.
	Because when you take that vow, when you get married, you're vowing to be for that other person and only for that other person.
	unless you're polyamorous it's a completely different thing but if you i mean maybe if that's what you vow though i mean everybody you can bow different let me ask you Let me ask you a question.
	Do you plan on being in a monogamous relationship at some point in your life?
	Yes.
	Okay, are you going to do it before or after you leave OnlyFans?
	The Around Meatball donated $200.
	Would you guys quit of all making any kind of content if you were in a relationship?
	Exactly.
	Thank you, Mr. Meatball.
	That's exactly my question.
	Yeah.
	Is the man going to make up for the, I don't do OnlyFans, but just hypothetically, is a man going to make up for the financial differences?
	Like, are you going to be a provider and substitute whatever they were making?
	Why should he have to?
	No.
	Why should he have to?
	Why should I have to give it up?
	Yeah, you know, everybody has a right to be able to.
	Because you want to be in a monogamous relationship.
	Wait, you're assuming that they want to be in a monogamous relationship.
	But that's why I asked.
	I asked her, and she said yes.
	She wants to be in a monogamous relationship, married.
	But it's sort of a false equivalence.
	Like, it would make more sense to say, would you be okay with your man doing OnlyFans relationships?
	Sometimes we pick each other.
	Some guys think it's hot and they get turned on by it and that's literally it.
	And then once the honeymoon phase is over and he leaves you because he can't take it anymore, then what?
	But for me, this isn't forever.
	This is right.
	But that's why I said I'm not going to express my sexuality and saving money.
	That's why I said your 20s is for fucking around, finding out who you are.
	So, you know, you're not quite at the threshold where you should be figuring yourself out yet.
	But you should probably stop OnlyFans before you figure yourself out.
	I mean, everyone.
	I'm figuring myself out right now.
	Everyone has different tolerances for social deviancy and sexual deviancy.
	And any rational guy going into a relationship or looking for a potential relationship, he's not going to seek a woman who is putting herself out there as a sexual being to other men.
	There's going to be allure.
	Like guys look for allure in women.
	They do look for a little bit of competition, but that's not competition.
	That's like, I just think it's crazy.
	It's just exposure.
	I just want to speak for a whole lot of people.
	Well, no, but here's the thing.
	I don't think that's most men that are okay with it are not high-value men.
	I would not, and they're not the men that you're going to want to marry.
	Exactly.
	What these two ladies just say.
	I think one thing that might be forgotten here, and again, no judgment, honestly.
	No judgment.
	But one thing that I think might be being forgotten here is that what men, and I am generalizing here, but generally speaking, I think that what men fall in lust with is very different than what men fall in love with.
	And I think a lot of times, maybe because of the way we were raised, the way we value or don't value ourselves, I think especially as women, I've seen a lot of people conflate those two things.
	And I think it causes a lot of pain on both ends.
	I think a lot of men are very confused too.
	Do you do BG content?
	No.
	You only do solo content?
	Okay.
	So, I mean, obviously there's scales to it.
	Like a girl who's only done like lingerie stuff on OnlyFans, it's not quite as suboptimal as a girl who's done like gangbangs.
	And sex activities.
	You know, and like BG content.
	But in my opinion.
	But it's still suboptimal.
	Like if some, like to me, like my standards, right, like I would never go and do mainstream porn because to me, like I just can't do that with sex.
	Like, and I think if to me, a woman doing mainstream porn and having sex with a bunch of different men literally on camera, like you can see all these different men, that's not a vibe.
	I think a woman that does boy girl content on OnlyFans with her partner, her boyfriend, husband, whatever it is, and then maybe a divorce happens and it doesn't work out and now she wants to date someone else.
	Is that person going to judge her for having sex with someone else?
	Whether it's on camera or not, like you're going to be upset that your girlfriend that was dating people before you had sex with other people on camera.
	Can I have a question?
	I have a question.
	I have a question.
	Do you believe that doing OnlyFans, does that give you confidence?
	Does that build your confidence?
	Do you feel more confident because you do OnlyFans?
	I think, actually, yeah.
	Because I think it's a false sense of confidence.
	Because here's the reason why I say this.
	Because OnlyFans gives you confidence because it's based on looks.
	It's only based on looks.
	You're not having Pulitzer Prize conversations with people that are checking out your titties and your vagina.
	So the second the OnlyFans is done or your looks fade, then what are you left with?
	What are you left with?
	Well, I think, I mean, obviously none of us really know each other that well, but like before I did OnlyFans, I had my own remodeling company at the age of 19 and doing manual labor remodeling.
	And actually, that's my passion.
	And that's, I want to own an all-women's construction company one day.
	And this is just something that's fun for me.
	And I have, like...
	Oh, my God.
	Who the hell cares?
	Oh, the construction company.
	Well, just to add to her point, it's just like obviously there's an appearance.
	If you have this alternative path that you want to seek, then what is the appeal in dueling OnlyFans to you?
	And what do you think it is, the appeal of doing OnlyFans to a multitude of women that actually do it?
	I think it's for me, it's an ability to make a great future for myself without a man.
	I don't need a man in my life.
	And if there is one that wants to be there and love me for where I'm at and actually knows me and what I've been through, then I don't think they would.
	Can I suggest something?
	The quality of man and human that I think you're going to want later in life is the kind of man who's going to want to be needed by you.
	I think y'all would be surprised who subs OnlyFans.
	Like y'all have this idea that it's like the kind of man that you want is not going to subscribe to OnlyFans.
	Those are the exact guys that are subscribed.
	People just don't know.
	Yeah, it's the pretext that you're buying.
	Yeah, but I'm not an American for the kind of man that I love.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'm going to make things very simple.
	You're saying it's not a segment.
	No, it's not.
	So your original question.
	Do you want to just restate your original question to me?
	It's like, why am I what?
	Why do I object to dating an OF girl?
	Was that your original question?
	I don't even think it was the question.
	It was just the original thing was like the topic that I brought up.
	I just look, I'll pull up the notes.
	Okay, so you don't agree with all the discussions about women's and men's role in relationships, and then you went to there.
	Okay.
	I agree with Matt.
	Now, on your OnlyFans, you state that you have daddy issues, so a girl needs some daddies, plural, lol, which seems to indicate that you...
	A pick-me girl.
	Well, it seems to indicate that you would entertain multiple men.
	So you've already made an admission on your own OnlyFans that you have an inclination towards dating multiple men.
	This is obviously a massive red flag, although given that I said that people bullshit on OnlyFans, you could certainly be lying.
	You also say here you can see me fully nude, squirt, give J-O-Is, strip T's, roleplay, get the full girlfriend experience, request customs, and you love to spoil and be spoiled.
	So you're giving the girlfriend experience.
	So if I was dating you, for example, and you had, you're giving 10 other men the girlfriend experience, I'm getting your divided romantic attention and sexual attention.
	Wait, what?
	Do you have a typer?
	Yes or no?
	No.
	Hmm.
	You sure?
	My page isn't big enough for that.
	Your page isn't big enough?
	Once it is, I will make it very clear.
	You're going to make it clear.
	She'll get a typer then.
	And you're paying a guy in Bangladesh $10 a day.
	Someone is helping me sell my content.
	Yeah, you're really going to put that in your OF.
	By the way, the guy who's pretending to be me, that's a dude.
	Yeah, I mean, I think that the OnlyFans box is putting who into a box.
	All the girls that do OnlyFans.
	Everybody has.
	What box am I putting them in?
	The fact that they have typers and chatters, which is that all of them.
	I don't think all of them lie.
	You don't think all of them lie?
	I know for a fact they actually really enjoy the fans.
	Is it the majority, though?
	It's probably the majority.
	70%.
	You guys lie about fucking.
	Oh, my God.
	All of it.
	Everything.
	In any case, so I do want to make some World of Warcraft related comments here.
	So dating an OnlyFans girl, Nick, could you lower the volume just a little bit?
	Is kind of subpar.
	You know, it's like a pretty weak build, you know, like this, best in slot, is going to be a girl who doesn't even have an Instagram, probably.
	Kind of a shy girl, to be honest.
	Like Maddie.
	Like, I have an Instagram.
	Yeah.
	You also have to do that.
	For the streets.
	Like, I don't know.
	Some guys, look, some guys, I'll give it to you.
	They'll still date you.
	They don't care about min-maxing.
	They're happy with an OF girl, maybe just like running five mans and shit, you know?
	Like, they're never going to raid Molten Core.
	Like, they're never going to get...
	They'll just, like, do five mans, like, for their whole, like, World of Warcraft career.
	And they're going to like have a suboptimal build.
	And like, if they ever do, maybe they'll do like a pug raid and they'll like maybe parse in like the 50 percentile.
	But they're happy to just get some dungeon loot here.
	Like, maybe if they're lucky, they'll get like a purple, like one of those shit tier purples from like the uh like a five-man raid, you know?
	Like, maybe that maybe if they're a rogue, they'll get Fell Striker from Rend in UBRS, you know, Upper Black Rock Spire.
	But, you know, me personally, I want those 99% parses, and that's why, like, me personally, I wouldn't date a girl who does OnlyFans.
	But these guys who are like in dad guilds and wiping on Lucifron and Molten Core, yeah, like they'll, you know, like noobs, they'll probably can you put on the math symbols?
	What do you mean?
	Anyways, you know, like, you know, like wiping, like the guys who are wiping on Lucifron, like, they'll probably date like an OnlyFans girl.
	It's because they can't get anybody else.
	That was impressive.
	Can you put on the math symbols?
	The one where you're doing a lot of money.
	The couple girls are like at this table are probably really turned on right now.
	What?
	The one where you're doing all the calculating?
	It's too late.
	The moment has passed.
	All right, Maddie, can you read this?
	Oh.
	They're around me donated 200 million.
	And they needed to boost the audio.
	Yo, Mr. Meatball, give me tear gear or give me death.
	Well put, dude, Mr. Meatball, some fucking tier three Nax Ramish shit.
	Can you boost the audio, Nick?
	But yo, Mr. Meatball, once again, hold on.
	Let me hit you with the.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Good to have you back, man.
	Okay.
	Maddie, can you read this?
	One sec, it's coming in.
	Panel, million-dollar question.
	Why call yourself a feminist?
	That seems exclusive.
	Why not call yourself a humanist or equalist?
	Well, you're the only person who said you were feminist, right?
	So do you want to answer that one?
	Well, before I was continuously calling myself a female advocate and not necessarily a feminist, but I do consider myself a feminist because the differences between men and women, given not necessarily the physical stature and but like intellectual capacity between men and women is so negligible and you're never going to be able to quantify it.
	So how the heck can you discriminate one against the other?
	I think men and women are now competing for their spot in the workplace, for instance.
	And why call myself a feminist and not a humanist?
	I don't know.
	It's the terminology.
	Feminist is specific to females and catching up in the rat race.
	So and a humanist, I mean, I don't, I'm also of the opinion that feminist feminism is not always going to be a necessary force in the world.
	Like, there will be a point where feminism is not needed because women will have equal rights to men.
	Do we not have equal rights now?
	Well, not in all parts of the world, but what about in the United States?
	In the United States, I would say it's fairly equal.
	The only thing that I would.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	What's going on in Texas?
	I don't know.
	All the controversy that just happened in Texas.
	Everybody knows.
	Women's rights.
	I don't.
	Women's rights.
	What women's rights?
	They're now denying medical abortions for women, from what I understand.
	Like, even if it poses a risk to the woman's health.
	They basically have to be dying.
	They literally have to be dying in order to get help.
	Okay.
	So let me ask you a question.
	Let's assume that they did allow abortion under those circumstances.
	Would you still feel that there is an abridgment of women's rights if all other abortions were outlawed?
	Or is it only the only abortions you care about are the ones where the woman's life is at risk?
	Oh, wait, hold up.
	Just repeat that one more time.
	One more time.
	Well, you guys are citing to an extreme example here that women, even women.
	Well, that's just an example that's happening right.
	You asked for an example.
	Like, that's an example right now.
	But so you're fine.
	So, just so I understand, are you saying you're fine with abortion being banned, but it should be allowed in the scenario where women their lives are at risk?
	I just think women should be able to have control over their own health and their bodies.
	So you support abortion.
	So you're pro-choice regardless.
	Yeah, just I'm pro-choice.
	Okay.
	What does that have to do with women's equality?
	Because right now, women literally have to be dying.
	But when it comes to feminism and equality, the viewpoint, the standpoint is in comparison to men, in comparison to men, men have no reproductive rights at all.
	It's not clear to me if abortion rights have anything to do with inequality insofar as men have no option at all when it comes to reproductive rights.
	So it's not evidence.
	It's not because men can't.
	Right, but if men don't have any sort of say at all, wouldn't equality actually be for abortion to be entirely illegal?
	Wouldn't that be equality?
	I don't know if it's not even something that you can compare because men don't carry sexual abortion.
	So this is such a redundant conversation.
	It's not redundant because if we're having a lot of people who are in the world, they call it health and health, and like men don't have to have kids.
	So like if woman is on the verge of dying and that's the only thing that she can call health care, it's like health.
	It's like health care.
	Right, but it's not about, it's not about coming from a viewpoint of equal, like men have this right and women don't.
	Because you can't even compare that to a male's right because a male can't carry babies, so you can't even compare the two.
	Well, it's mainly.
	A man has the choice on whether or not he wants to get the snip-snip, right?
	Or if he wants to nut.
	So does a woman.
	Right.
	But do you want to nut in there?
	Like, that shoe.
	That's the caveat.
	You're basically, when it comes to men, you're basically a bronze age pro-lifer.
	Oh, who?
	Okay, so let me ask you a question.
	Is consenting to sex as a man consenting to fatherhood?
	Yes.
	Yes?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	As a woman, is consenting to sex consenting to motherhood?
	Yes.
	Not to me, it's not.
	Okay.
	So let me ask you a question.
	Would you ever tell a woman who was inclined to get an abortion and if she didn't want a child, would you okay?
	Let me let me walk it back a little bit.
	What would you tell a man who got a girl pregnant and he didn't want to get a girl pregnant?
	What would you tell him if she wanted to keep the kid and he didn't?
	Tell her, I would say that just be the best father that you can and because it is what if he's upset about this reality that he's about to face.
	He has an option to sign his rights away.
	No, he doesn't.
	It's a thing.
	Okay, hold on.
	They don't tend to do it very often because they think in the same way that you might want to have something along the lines of tough, you should have thought of that before having sex with her.
	Your option would be.
	I'm not doing that sometimes, so maybe it depends on the relationship.
	Your option.
	Some people that get pregnant to some of the men, I'm like, why would you even sleep with that guy?
	I mean, I mean, you consented to sleep with them.
	You shouldn't have a double standard if you're going to be pro-choice, and then you can't tell men you shouldn't have had sex if you knew what it could lead to if you wouldn't say the same thing to women.
	I'm not going to men.
	But it's you're literally like that's the same thing that pro-lifers say to women.
	Oh, well, you should have kept your legs closed.
	Not that I agree to that, but I think that's a horrible thing to say.
	But, I mean, can we all agree that that's a double standard?
	Yeah, I mean, if there's a double standard, there's always a risk.
	Nutting inside, that's different because there's options like condoms, oral, anal, pulling out.
	Like, you came in there, you can still have sex without impregnating someone.
	Birth control, right?
	But let's say that, like, the woman lies about being on birth control or lies about her fertility.
	Well, then, bad situation.
	Let's even say she is on birth control, but a pregnancy still happens, or you did take precautions, but you know, sometimes it can happen.
	In that case, I feel like you don't need to worry because the mom is probably feeling the same way.
	Like, ooh, this was an accident.
	Well, what if she keeps the kid and he didn't want a kid?
	I mean, you have to consider the reasons for why people of like biological age do not want children, and it's because of social circumstances and financial circumstances most of the time.
	They're not ready to go.
	Or they can't have them.
	They can't.
	Well, I mean, yeah, that's more of like a so wait.
	What's your, what do you, what's your argument?
	My argument is that essentially when you're sorry, I got interrupted, so I can't remember.
	Go on.
	It's like, why do you not want to have a kid?
	It's for certain reasons.
	So you shouldn't be having sex if you're not ready to have a kid and you're not willing to take the precautions to I don't even know what you're trying.
	I don't even know what you're trying to say.
	Look, ultimately, what I'm trying to say is that this conversation about abortion being like some inequality that women face, it has nothing to do with equality or inequality.
	Men don't have any reproductive rights.
	So if we're talking about this from the lens of equality, the actual equality would be for abortion to be outright banned in the United States.
	Yeah, it's a human rights issue.
	It's not a.
	Well, it's within the purview of women's rights, but it's not from like a comparison point of view in terms of the framework is not about equality.
	No.
	Well, women not having the right is not always possible.
	Women not having the right to have an abortion in Texas is not evidence of inequality.
	That's what I'm trying to argue.
	I didn't argue that.
	I don't know.
	Somebody was.
	For me, I mean, for me, it's like a health thing.
	If a man wants to go into a hospital, it's the Dave Chappell joke.
	If they can decide to have a kid, you should be able to abandon them.
	But generally, don't expose yourself to downside risk you aren't willing to experience.
	Well, but Mr. Meepal, if women are allowed to murder the kid, the man should at least be able to abandon.
	Abandon walk away.
	Absolutely.
	That would be equal.
	But that would be equal.
	Unfortunately, that's not an option in any state whatsoever.
	That's not true.
	What about sperm donors?
	What?
	Women who are looking to have children.
	Yeah, that's not really super related, though.
	Maddie, can you read this chat?
	Why do women consent to sex but not consent to the possibility of life?
	Sex leads to procreation.
	That's simply biology.
	Newly right-wing girl.
	I love your content, Brian.
	It's changed my life.
	Thank you.
	Yo, Ashley B, good to have you in the chat.
	Thank you for the message.
	Appreciate it very much.
	Thank you, Ashley.
	You are a legend and a scholar.
	Okay, Kevin, so sorry, Jane Zanesville.
	I don't really get it.
	Neither me either.
	Somebody, who's Jane Zanesville?
	So sorry, Jane.
	All right, Kevin.
	Oh, was she the one that got mauled by the bear?
	No, that was something Miller.
	Thanks, Jane Miller.
	Rest in peace to the woman who got mauled, though.
	That was intense.
	Okay, where were we in our notes?
	We were talking to Tavia here.
	Let's go back to Tavia.
	Was there anything else you disagreed on?
	That was it.
	Come on, there was more.
	That was definitely.
	That was definitely it, honestly.
	You said you don't agree with all the women humiliation that happens on the show.
	I know it's intentional and for the viewers.
	So what specifically do you mean by the women humiliation that happens on the show?
	Well, I mean, just like intentionally talking about things and doing things to like incite a reaction that you know is going to happen because literally like I watched one of the podcasts and you started doing the warlock talk and then you're literally zooming in on the girls' face that are like annoyed at you for talking about it because they're like, clearly, you know, most of us have no idea about warlock and it's like intentionally whatever.
	And it's like, bruh.
	How, how, wouldn't that be more me humiliating myself than me humiliating women talking about World of Warcraft?
	Yeah, he's casting himself under the bus.
	What the fuck was that shit?
	That was funny.
	Anything else?
	So just, is that the, that's, that was your gripe, the World of Warcraft stuff?
	I just, like, things like that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, give me, can you provide one example of a time I humiliated a woman on the show?
	Well, I mean, I probably have to, to be honest.
	But that was just one of the examples.
	Can you give me another example?
	You wrote it.
	I'm just one of the examples.
	Honestly, I've watched a lot of like the viral clips of this podcast.
	And it's not you ever humiliating them.
	It's them humiliating themselves.
	Because I couldn't wrap my mind around the girl who cried because he asked her, well, what's misogynist?
	And she started crying and left.
	I wanted to strangle her.
	I wanted to throat punch her.
	Like, are you kidding me?
	Girl the fuck up.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	That was sad, though.
	It wasn't sad.
	It was stupid.
	She was stupid.
	She was dumb, fracting like a baby.
	Don't go on a podcast that's going to talk about these topics if you can't handle it.
	If you're going to sit there and cry like a little bitch, everyone's going to.
	Everyone's going to have that unique reaction.
	I didn't.
	She deserved it.
	But yeah, it is.
	What's that?
	What's that?
	Is it the Socrates quote?
	Trust not when a woman weeps.
	What is that?
	White woman tears.
	That's what she was doing.
	White woman tears.
	Plato?
	Is it Plato?
	I don't know.
	Maybe chat.
	Find me the quote.
	So, can you provide one example of a time I humiliated a woman on the show?
	Well, I didn't say that.
	I said, er.
	Here, this is what you wrote.
	You said, I don't agree with all the women, women, plural, I don't know, all the women humiliation that happens on the show.
	I know it's intentional and for the viewers.
	That was my example.
	That's what I was talking about.
	That's not his example.
	I'm not doing the video game thing.
	I'm just doing it to incite a reaction.
	Are you saying just like showing that girls are annoyed or something?
	How's that humiliating to women?
	You just sit there acknowledging.
	You're literally doing it to entice a reaction that you know is the reaction they're going to get.
	But it's not like that.
	Actually, the reality is when I do the World of Warcraft thing, like five people think it's funny and everyone else is like LLL, cringe, cringe, cringe.
	I hate it when he does this.
	In the chat?
	I just do it because I want to do it.
	Yeah, we all think it's painful.
	Absolutely.
	Shut up.
	So, okay, can you give me one example?
	One, give me one example.
	There's my example.
	I don't have 100 hours of me doing this podcast.
	Wait, we've done like 100, what, 160-something shows?
	What is this?
	168?
	Brian, to be fair, she's only watched like two podcasts.
	Yeah.
	I think you're doing all the hours.
	Five hours.
	Maybe you're not going to provide an example.
	Maybe she thinks that you're letting them.
	Maybe she thinks that you're letting these women embarrass themselves.
	But that's literally their choice because they select to come onto the podcast.
	I mean, that was my example to that statement.
	So maybe it's not the best one, but that's it.
	That's all I got for you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You can't control that necessarily, but I mean.
	I'm only responsible for the words that come out of my mouth.
	Somebody comes on here and says some shit.
	That's them.
	What was that noise?
	But I do have a question.
	Okay.
	So whenever you're selecting thumbnails, what criteria are you selecting your thumbnails based off of?
	Are you upset that I didn't put you in the thumbnail?
	No, I don't give a thumbs up.
	Look at this.
	She's jealous.
	Don't give a shit.
	Okay.
	Put me in the thumbnail.
	I'm the star.
	I'm the star of the show.
	I'm the sky of the show.
	What the hell?
	I'm the fucking A side of this shit.
	You're the B side.
	You should have put me in the goddamn thumbnail.
	Yeah, instead of that thought daughter.
	By the way, Nick, is there an improvement in the focus on my side or is it still kind of out of focus?
	I don't know.
	Out of focus?
	Just a little bit.
	Okay, maybe I'll try to adjust it.
	Anyways.
	Wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	You have a tweet.
	This is the tweet.
	We're not going to pull it up.
	I looked at your Twitter.
	You have a tweet that reads, Did you know that most of these OnlyFans pages are run by men or I don't know why you brought immigrants into the or immigrants and you're most likely not even talking to a woman with women.
	You need a we need to I need to help you out a little bit with that.
	Yeah, there's women, women, whatever.
	Not even talking, you're most likely not even talking to a woman.
	Well, I'm here to help because I 100% run my page and you'll be chatting with me directly.
	I'm 21 and fun and thriving.
	Hope to see you there.
	That was a sales hook, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Love.
	That was your sales hook.
	I mean, that was good.
	Yeah.
	And it appeals to your issue with your mind.
	And it's literally talking about your issue.
	Huh?
	She's satisfying that.
	I'm literally.
	Yeah, exactly what you said.
	But you're using it.
	You kept saying, like, you keep boxing us all in generalizing.
	You literally admitted to it.
	Yeah, you.
	You admitted to it on your Twitter.
	Right.
	Did I say everyone?
	Did I use the word everyone?
	I wonder if we can find it.
	Hold on, let me see if I can find it.
	I'm going to try to find it.
	But that's the thing, though.
	You're using the negativity that there is out there about the OnlyFans to your advantage to try to sell more people to come to your page.
	So you are being just as manipulative as the people that they're using men.
	Is it manipulative?
	I relate to that.
	Like, I've definitely posted some salty things because as someone who does do all the work, it is so hard to see, like, the top 0.0 making the million dollars.
	Can you try to put that on my page?
	And you know, they, you know, they don't.
	They have like tens of thousands of subscribers, but us, we probably, I have like 500.
	What about you?
	Like a thousand.
	Okay.
	I mean, even when I did have a thousand before I had a boyfriend, so yes, I have, I make half the income I used to make.
	I was still possible, and I did not need to hire anybody, but I do get saucy.
	And I've made some of those kind of posts myself, even though it's frowned upon in the industry to like throw people.
	You're literally throwing your other competition under the bus just to try to get it.
	I'm not proud of it.
	I'm not proud of it, but I've had weak moments where I'm just like, But that's hypocrisy, ladies.
	That's hypocrisy.
	But it's like, that would be like me being a realtor and being like, is your realtor lazy?
	I'll do what they won't do.
	It's essentially the same thing.
	Like, she's proving that not all of them are manipulative and lying, like, she really does run her own page, which Ryan should be happy with because it's honest.
	Well, here's the thing, though.
	Even if she wasn't running her own page, she would still lie about it.
	How do you know?
	That's what they do.
	No, but you're saying now you're saying all OnlyFans girls lie.
	But honestly, if a man is going to come onto a girl that literally is like 3.5 million followers on Instagram and has OnlyFans and they're going to come on there and think actually that they're talking to that girl, I mean, is it who's liable here?
	Like, is who like if you were if you were- Who are we going to blame?
	The girl or the guy?
	Because the guy should have enough common sense to know, and the girl's just providing a service.
	Like, if you were lying about this, would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars?
	Wait, say that again?
	Would you be if it's actually not true that you that you don't have typers, would you be willing to pay me a thousand dollars?
	If it's if it's actually not true.
	So, if you're lying about the fact that you respond to all your OF messages, would you pay me a thousand dollars?
	If you're not lying, would you pay him a thousand dollars?
	No, if you're lying, you do have a typer, would you pay him a thousand dollars?
	If I had a typer, I would say it.
	Would you?
	You would not tell your lying.
	You would not tell your OnlyFans audience, if you're making Buku dollars, you're not going to tell these men that you have a typer.
	There's no way.
	If you're with a guy, let's say you're chatting with a guy, right?
	And he says, I'll give you $5,000 right now.
	I'll give you $5,000 right now if you tell me you don't have a boyfriend and I'm the only man you're talking to.
	Are you going to lie to him and tell him that you have a boyfriend?
	Are you going to lie to him and tell him that you don't have a boyfriend and tell him you're the only man that I want right now for $5,000?
	Yes, you are.
	She can't.
	Yes, you are.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	She can't even answer it because she has a typer in that instance.
	And I thought it's in that instance.
	If I had a typer, then I guess they would.
	And then I guess they would.
	So thank you.
	What would they answer on your behalf?
	Is you lying?
	Because if you're telling everyone you don't have a typer, right?
	You're telling everyone on Twitter and everyone out there, hey guys, I'm the only girl on OnlyFans that doesn't have a typer.
	But even though you don't have a typer, you're still lying and manipulating if you're willing to take $5,000 from a man on the promise that you don't have a boyfriend and that he's the only one you're talking to.
	She didn't say yes, though.
	She did say yes.
	This is a bunch of side tangent hypotheticals.
	Yeah, she did say yes.
	But it's true.
	I would say no, because I'm not willing to, I'm not going to pay $1,000 for, you could really fabricate anything on the internet.
	If you have some kind of proof or whatever that she, like, who knows?
	That could be so doctored.
	There's really no way to prove it.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Trust.
	Are you about to bust out like someone?
	No, he ain't got nothing.
	I've seen him be like, oh, yeah, you say you're a virgin.
	Well, someone sent me like acorn.
	Anyways, moving on, we're going to get to, who do we get to?
	We're going to get to Alyssa here.
	Alyssa, you said your entire marriage.
	Married to a narcissist.
	Your words, not mine.
	You could recount moving.
	Wait.
	Oh, you guys moved in together the second time you hung out?
	Yes.
	I didn't know about love bombing or any of that stuff.
	You said there's manic love bomb phase.
	Yeah, that was fun.
	Okay.
	So getting married, having kids, and then the crazy narc shit that led you to file for divorce.
	You can also talk about your Dom experience with a sissy submissive.
	So yeah, why don't we talk about that?
	the sissy submissive thing you domed a i've done a few people but um this particular one is funny um so So he was like, yo, you're kind of a bitch.
	And I'm like, yeah, I know.
	So what's up?
	Like, it's a good friend of mine.
	And I'm like, yeah, so like, what's up?
	And he's like, well, I just think you have like Dom energy.
	And I'm like, what the fuck?
	I didn't know anything about kink stuff at that.
	Well, not that level of kink stuff at the time.
	I was, I don't know, I was young.
	Anyway, long story short, he came over in like a French-maid outfit with in chastity.
	And I'm pretty sure I kept him locked for like several months.
	Wait, actually.
	Locked.
	Oh, the chastity belt.
	Yeah.
	And like, you actually shrink at some point.
	So he's lost.
	I like to hold it.
	He's lost a little bit of yikes to all these things.
	Because if he's major yikes, dude.
	So like, and like if yikes, big yikes.
	He would like clean my house with like a butt plug, and I would like hit the button ever so often.
	But to further humiliate him, I invited my friend over.
	Oh my god.
	Was this before your husband?
	Yes, I was so young.
	Oh my god.
	He was like 19 at the time.
	Was he young too?
	Exploring.
	He's like essentially my age.
	I want to go home.
	But yeah, so like if he didn't discuss it, if he wasn't like on his hands and knees, then I would like pour the shit out of the dustpan and make him clean it up again.
	And then like if you have a sissy sub, like if they do ever come to climax, like they have to look it up.
	Shit, stuff like that.
	What?
	Yeah.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	It is.
	100%.
	It is.
	Well, what did you give for this?
	It's funny.
	That's disgusting.
	I mean, most of my subs have paid me.
	You see what you just said on YouTube?
	But like, I don't like swing with them.
	Please don't listen to this.
	I'm sorry for her.
	I'll pray for her.
	No.
	No, literally.
	Literally, you should, actually, because this is all my pre-Christian behavior.
	Pre-Christian behavior?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, Lord.
	So just to be clear, you dated a man.
	I didn't date him.
	Oh, you.
	No, I didn't date him.
	Yeah.
	What?
	So wait.
	Well, most of the Dom situations were virtual, but this particular person was my best friend, and he was just into it.
	And I was like, okay, I'll try it out.
	Like, why not?
	Did you guys ever have sex?
	No.
	What?
	They're not allowed to have sex.
	What do you get out of the pit?
	A clean house.
	And money for free.
	Yeah.
	Foot rubs, all kind of shit.
	Anything I told him to do.
	Synthonate easy.
	And money.
	And so he would climax?
	No.
	If he did, he had to fucking clean it up with his mouth.
	No, but you said he would because.
	Yeah, like at his house.
	He didn't have shit.
	Not at your place?
	No, no, no.
	No kind of sexual relationship.
	I mean, I guess you could say it's sexual in nature, but yeah, no.
	Holy shit.
	Did I send the asteroid?
	Did I send the asteroid?
	Sending the fucking asteroid on this shit.
	I would never date someone who is submissive like that.
	That's just a matter of time.
	Oh, you guys both got a turn, huh?
	Yeah.
	I was going to ask you, did he ever wear a red curly wig with bangs?
	No, no, no.
	I had to go at my house once, and then my wig came up, Miss.
	And you know, he likes to dress like a girl, so I thought it was him.
	I never saw him wear a wig.
	Also, I think he's in the chat because he's obsessed with us.
	Why are you so excited about that?
	You should dom him right now and tell him to do a champagne call.
	Class for 20 donated $200.
	Purple hair chick is putting on an act.
	Blonde is toxic.
	And raven chick is an enabler of her own problems.
	Listen to the woman to your right.
	Great panel, Brian.
	Enjoy being here.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate that.
	Moss.
	Moss 320.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate your support.
	I'm an enabler to mom problems.
	Your name is new, so welcome in.
	Really appreciate.
	Welcome to the family.
	Welcome to the team.
	Welcome to the army.
	Britney Spears.
	Let me reiterate.
	I'm 27 now, and I was like 19 when this happened.
	It's even worse.
	It's even worse.
	It's like.
	No, it's at that age where you're like experimenting with what you, you know, what you like.
	You made him wear a chastity belt, which reduced his size.
	He loved it.
	They love it.
	The sub is always really the one in control.
	Like, they usually are the ones orchestrating it.
	It's just like.
	I mean, it's not something.
	I would not date someone.
	I don't even have a word for this.
	I just got to shake my head.
	Alrighty, then.
	Let's try it.
	Like, I'll try to get it.
	Were you ever did you ever feel pressured in that situation because he was your best friend and he was coming to you with this?
	Nah, I'd just ignore him if I wasn't feeling it.
	And I do now.
	I'm like, when I was married, I'd ignored him totally.
	Did it change your level of respect for him?
	No, whatever.
	He's in a weird shit.
	Who cares?
	I'm a libertarian.
	I don't give a fuck what you do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.
	Yes.
	Now, my personal principles may not be the same as what I think is cool for other people to do.
	But yeah, I mean, do what you do.
	I had a dude that wanted me to put an egg in his ass, and that was just a red flag for me.
	I'm like, nah, I'm not into that shit.
	I'm not putting anything in your asshole.
	Like, this is not something I'm into.
	Bye.
	Come on.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I guess there are a couple things that I won't try once.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm just not into it.
	I'm not into demasculating men, honestly.
	I'm not.
	I'm not into it.
	Anyways, going back to your notes here, so you used to be a stripper.
	How long were you stripping?
	For like four years in my early adult life.
	Four years?
	Okay.
	And you said your, wait, yes, the feminist take on 50-50 and how it's often low-key pick-me behavior disguised as empowerment.
	What do you mean?
	Okay, so who is winning in that situation?
	Because in every relationship dynamic is different.
	Okay, so I'm not trying to generalize everybody.
	But for the most part, the woman typically does the emotional labor.
	She's typically going to do most of the cleaning.
	She's typically going to do most of the child care.
	I can tell you this in my own marriage.
	Okay, well, maybe some of that other stuff, but the emotional labor, like, okay, that's whatever.
	You don't think so?
	I feel like it's usually women who like initiate, let's go to couples therapy and stuff like that.
	Let's just say, that's what I'm saying.
	It's not like, it's not every relationship, but generally.
	If my girl comes to me, we need therapy.
	I'm just, let's just skip right to the chase.
	Here's the divorce papers.
	So that's her.
	That proves my point.
	She's doing the emotional labor.
	I'm not going to do the relationship with you.
	She's a fucking liberal therapist.
	So some woke liberal therapist so that the therapist can affirm the woman's position because most therapists tend to be women.
	Absolutely.
	And they tend to be biased towards women.
	Okay, with my husband, we did marriage therapy, and our therapist was a man, and he absolutely held me accountable on shit that I did wrong.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, most therapists probably aren't like that.
	But you don't go to therapy?
	So, where are you getting this information from?
	More generalizations.
	Okay, exactly.
	So, the woman's doing the emotional labor.
	So, you just literally put it on the screen.
	What does therapy have to do with who's doing the emotional labor?
	That's just one example.
	Like, if the woman is like, What evidence do you have that women are doing the emotional labor?
	If she's saying, I want us to go to therapy so that we can keep the marriage going, and you're like, fuck that, then she's obviously putting forth that.
	That's me.
	Okay, and I think that's generally reasonings for why.
	Anyway, the point is, they usually do most of the cheating.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Let's talk about emotional labor because this is such a buzzword.
	What does that even mean?
	Okay.
	To labor emotionally.
	Articulate what it means.
	I'm not going to.
	Okay.
	Typically, women are going to stay with a man who cheats on them and they're like, oh, I love you enough.
	I'll just deal with it.
	So that has to do with emotional labor.
	It's emotional labor.
	It takes a woman through emotional practice.
	Let's both agree that cheating's wrong.
	Give me an example in a healthy relationship where let's go to therapy.
	That is the healthy relationship.
	What is an example of emotional labor?
	Okay, let's say we have a communication issue.
	Okay, why are you.
	Okay, if we have a communication issue.
	Outside of therapy.
	Outside of therapy.
	Give me an example because I don't see how that would be an emotional labor.
	Yeah, what is emotional labor?
	Emotional labor.
	They use these words.
	They don't even know what they mean.
	It's part of the word.
	I'll give you an example of empathy.
	What did it define emotional labor then?
	Putting forth the emotional effort in the relationship to keep the relationship going.
	What does that mean, though?
	Okay, like a woman cheats the manager.
	If the woman is like therapy, he's just like, bye.
	Let's say there's no cheating.
	Okay, so you can't, okay, you can't rationally discredit every example and then be like, oh, well, you're not giving me an example.
	Give me an example.
	I just gave you some practicing.
	Okay, you said going to therapy and cheating.
	What else?
	Practice.
	Typically, women are going to be the better communicators.
	Typically, the women are going to want to sit down and talk an issue out, and the men are not.
	Although that's not always the case.
	Like, women can have, you know, avoidant attachment styles too.
	But are we going to get to the whole point, or do we just want to hold on to this for the next one?
	Yeah, let's give me an example of emotional labor.
	I just gave you multiple.
	No, you didn't.
	Okay, let's say we're fighting.
	Hey, hey, Brian, I don't like that when I try to talk to you, you kind of like discredit everything that I say.
	If it doesn't align with your views, you just won't hear me.
	How is that emotional?
	We're having a conversation.
	Engaged.
	We're role-playing, okay?
	You're my man.
	Hey, I feel like when I talk to you, if it's not what you want to hear, you disregard what I'm saying.
	Can you recognize that you do that?
	What do you hold on?
	I don't want, I'm not really interested in that.
	Okay, so this is a perfect example of me trying to do it.
	You're not in a fucking relationship.
	I'm not here to kiss your ass.
	Okay, but it's a perfectionist.
	So why don't you give me an example of emotional labor without us having to roleplay it?
	Okay, but that is something that happens in relationships.
	The woman who wants to talk about the issues and then it's like, fuck you and what you think.
	It's not clear to me that that's an emotional labor.
	I would agree and say that's the wrong term for it.
	Okay, so then what would you call it?
	I wouldn't call it emotional labor.
	I would call it talking things out.
	It speaks to me like I'm five.
	Emotional labor is literally practicing like I'm five.
	It's practicing empathy and putting yourself in someone else's shoes without having to like putting yourself in someone else's shoes.
	If you come practicing it and tell me you don't like something.
	And I sit there and I reflect about it, even though I may not agree.
	Why would that be emotional labor?
	That would just say you're putting yourself in somebody else's shoes.
	No, considering their perspective.
	You don't think empathy is an emotion?
	No.
	That's not what I said.
	Go ahead, make your point.
	Make your point.
	That is fucking wild.
	You don't think empathy was an emotion?
	Literally didn't say that.
	It is literally a lot of people.
	She gaslighted them.
	No, no, no.
	I'm talking about this.
	It is laboring.
	It is by definition an emotional.
	The wife comes to the husband and says they need therapy.
	The husband needs to be emotionally stable enough to say, shut the fuck up and make me a second.
	Okay, so that's exactly what I'm talking about.
	So men will like that.
	Listen, men will do shit like that, and women will still be like, I paid 50% of the bills.
	I don't need no man.
	Okay, bitch, you're the real pick-me.
	So what you're saying is they don't have to provide for you.
	They don't have to fucking do any emotional labor.
	They don't have to.
	And then also.
	What does that mean?
	What does emotional labor mean?
	I'm going to spend the next 30 minutes holding it on this shit.
	I gave you multiple.
	Give me, okay, you went to the extreme.
	Cheating.
	No, no, no.
	Going to therapy.
	Okay, no, no.
	You think it's an extreme when I'm working?
	Your partner is trying to engage you in a conversation.
	I'm going to therapy.
	And you don't even have the empathy to listen to them.
	Cut it out.
	Stop being a fucking idiot.
	Go ahead.
	If even it's not an extreme example to say, like, hey, if I'm trying to talk to my partner about something that bothers me and they just won't have the empathy to even listen to the problem, much less reflect or acknowledge it, that's me emotionally investing and the man being like, fuck you and your emotions.
	Because they're afraid to express yourself.
	I'm still waiting for an explanation of what emotional labor is.
	We just gave you literally five.
	Okay, then you can, then you can like.
	No, we have.
	Okay, then how is you being avoidant?
	I'm not being avoidant.
	I would actually, I bet he's anxiously attached.
	Keep psychoanalysts.
	How is it not emotional labor if you're giving advice to your partner and trying to put them in a vulnerable emotions in an advanced and healthier mindset?
	How is that not emotional labor?
	Okay, give me an example.
	I can see that I can see that it's sunk into your already.
	Yes, it has.
	Someone you're just, yeah, you are.
	The guy I was talking to that I was in a three-day relationship with, but we had been talking about it.
	I'm not going to get fired up.
	I think it's cute because he would see that he has already digested it, but this is for abuse.
	He would routinely, regardless.
	Okay, what evidence do you actually have for views?
	You literally have failed to articulate.
	I'm looking at you and I can tell that you know what I'm saying.
	Okay, cool.
	You're a mind reader.
	So in a relationship where there's not cheating and therapy isn't necessary, would you agree that there is some degrees of quote-unquote emotional labor happening in otherwise happy relationships?
	Yeah.
	What's an example?
	Okay, no.
	In a happy relationship, what would be an example of that?
	Okay, so emotional labor.
	Let's exclude cheating.
	Let's exclude the need, a relationship so bad that it requires therapy.
	Okay, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Even small things.
	What is an example of emotional labor in an otherwise happy relationship?
	Okay.
	Happy relationships can have small issues like communication issues, right?
	Sure.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	So if I'm coming to you trying to say, hey, we have communication issues, I think we need to work it out because I love you and I want to stay with you.
	But in order to do that, this is something that definitely needs to be fixed.
	That is the evil.
	Oh, you're dangling the breakup.
	No.
	Just like you did with your husband, or didn't you?
	Oh, yes, I did.
	Didn't you admit that one of your issues is that you would threaten the breakup?
	Because in my book, once you threaten the breakup, it's goodbye.
	I don't play that shit.
	We can have a conversation about issues, but when you start leveraging a breakup, 100%.
	I'll call your bluff.
	It was nice to meet you.
	Goodbye.
	I don't play this.
	Breakup, get back together bullshit.
	If you want to break up, it's over.
	Goodbye.
	Oh, my God.
	That looks like a.
	That was like more of a wave.
	Goodbye.
	That's not a salute.
	That was not a Roman salute.
	Okay, good.
	No, I actually agree.
	Like, as someone who's no longer 22 and has done self-reflection and stuff, I 100% agree with you.
	But that's not what I'm saying here.
	What I'm saying here is you don't have to threaten to leave, but everybody knows like if a relationship gets too toxic, it's just healthy to not be together.
	So you try to discuss issues so that you can fix them and keep the relationship going.
	And that's just like a general thing.
	Everyone does that.
	So you're describing emotional labor as like the willingness to discuss those things.
	It's one example.
	It's just any kind of like.
	But you said women do most of the emotional labor in a relationship.
	So I'm sort of failing to understand.
	I think what she's trying to say is that women are more likely to be vulnerable.
	And that is equating to emotional therapy or emotional labor.
	But I wouldn't think emotional labor is a stupid word for it though.
	Okay.
	Well, we can argue semantics, but the general point, and I also think that women tend to like emotionally invest more in general, maybe sooner than men.
	But that's because it's a harmonious issue.
	And the whole point that I'm making, like the whole point that I'm making is women will literally brag.
	They'll be like, I pay 50% of the bills and I do the cooking and I do the cleaning.
	And then they'll say dumb shit.
	Like if a guy cheats on you, well, you could have just told me I would have fucked her with you.
	You know, that type of shit.
	That is the real pick me energy.
	So when I got married and I decided to become a mom, I had so many feminine, literally, I'm not even fucking playing.
	I had so many feminists put me down and like, oh my God, years of feminism, what we fought for, wasted.
	And it's like, you're really the pick me.
	I'm not the pick me because I'm getting married and having children, which by the way, to me is the most meaningful thing that you could do is create another human and like build them up to be they're the future.
	They're literally the fucking future generations.
	And you have a role in shaping that.
	And you're going to tell me that fucking paying 50% of the bills for your boyfriend who's going to fucking cheat on you anyway, and you're going to do all the shit that I'm doing, that makes me the pick-me.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Is your just to finally arrive at the point here, you're against 50-50 relationships?
	Is that no, no, no.
	If it's truly 50-50, I think that's great.
	Like if both partners are equally cleaning, cooking, all of the things, yeah, that's great.
	But that's just not what I typically see anecdotally.
	Okay, let me ask you a question.
	Let's say the guy's working 60 hours a week and the woman's working 30 and there's an unequal distribution of all the household shit that you're talking about.
	Do you not view that as 50-50?
	Yeah.
	Wait, you know what?
	So yeah, if the man is working harder hours, and by the way, you said something earlier about blue-collar men working nine-to-fives.
	Who, do y'all know blue-collar men that work nine-to-fives?
	Because I don't know any blue-collar men.
	They work like 100-hour weeks.
	So in those kind of scenarios, yeah, it obviously makes sense that whoever, whichever partner is not working as much, should do more of the opposite labor.
	Yes, I don't discredit that at all.
	You also talked about also how it's more empowering to be a housewife and how being that doesn't automatically make you the submissive one.
	Yeah, so I see a huge debate topic on like TikTok and other social media platforms where women are like, well, if I'm going to be submissive, then you need to pay all the bills.
	And I guess it just depends on what you mean by submissive.
	But like a man can be paying all the bills and that doesn't mean that you have to submit to him.
	Each relationship dynamic is going to be different.
	So it was just weird to me as someone who like always wore the pants in my relationships to have women like, oh, you just let a man run you.
	Or if you have like any red pill ideas, women will be like, oh, well, you just think that because the misogyny is coming from inside the house, which is actually misogynistic to say because you're assuming that I can't form my own opinions and that a man must have made me think this way.
	Although I have to say this, as far as women who are homemakers, who are stay-at-home moms, that's a full-time job.
	It is.
	They're taking care of the kids and whatnot.
	But if you don't have children and you expect a man to take care of you, to me, that's just lazy.
	That's just lazy.
	I mean, that's, that's, I don't fully dispute that.
	But there are some dynamics where, you know, if that works for both people, then whatever.
	Because she could be helping him, like, in those situations where he's working super hard.
	He doesn't want to have to come home and do laundry.
	He doesn't want to have to come home and do dinner.
	Right.
	So she's helping him in that situation.
	But what if she's objecting and then saying, oh, I don't have to do that?
	Oh, yeah, that's wrong.
	Yeah, you're a lazy bitch.
	Well, then you're a lazy bitch.
	Yeah, 100% agree.
	Get a job then, bitch.
	I agree.
	Yeah.
	When I was a housewife, my house was spotless.
	I cooked all the time.
	You can look at my Facebook at the Meals album.
	I cook good as fuck.
	My children are both highly advanced.
	Yeah, I was a really good housewife, but other women would put me down for it.
	I'm like, bitch, you're the pick me.
	He's paying my bills.
	And I don't have to work.
	Like, yes, what I'm doing is work, but like, I would definitely not want to be doing this and fucking working.
	I think women should pay 100% of everything to.
	Yeah, I'll do it.
	I think we need a reversal of the gender roles, to be honest.
	In what industry?
	I mean, like, if you're baiting.
	In what industry?
	What women?
	What industry are women working in that they're going to make more than the men?
	Maybe 10%.
	Well, here's an example of teachers like.
	Hey!
	Asian women out-earn white men.
	Okay, then go for Asian women.
	Well, then you like to know.
	Can we ask you questions?
	Sure, go ahead.
	How long has it been since you dated somebody?
	I'm a virgin.
	Right.
	Helpful.
	There's just a lot of people talking about my relationship status.
	He's seeing an Asian girl.
	They don't have social media.
	They have Instagram.
	I'll tell you this: I've never dated a content creator or a girl who does OnlyFans.
	And when I say content, like even just like a YouTuber, a Twitch streamer, no sex work.
	Never even dated a content creator.
	How do you have that?
	Huh?
	How old are you?
	I saw an episode where you said you were older than Michael Knowles.
	I'm 34.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I mean, to be honest like, oh.
	Is the dating rage that you date like 19 to 22?
	Is that a fair assessment?
	I'll date anyone from 19 to 40, I suppose.
	So you date an older girl?
	I've dated, yeah, I've dated women older than me.
	I've dated women younger than me.
	That's where it's at.
	Is there any aversion for men to date a younger woman?
	Is there any reason why a man would not want to date a younger woman?
	Well, once we get Drew Wilson on the call, we're going to get him here in just a sec.
	We will talk about age gap relationships because I believe that's in your notes.
	So we'll get into that.
	But yeah, I don't really talk about it.
	One, because one, precisely because I don't date another content creator.
	So if I'm dating like a normie chick, I frankly don't want people harassing my girlfriend.
	And then it's just, yeah, there's just safety, security concerns there.
	Have you ever found someone on the podcast that you were willing to date?
	Have I ever found somebody on the podcast that I was willing to date?
	Date, not sleep with.
	Date.
	Sure, I guess.
	Yeah.
	I'm not going to give you specifics.
	I'm not asking for specifics.
	I typically, I try not to make it a habit, though, for the most part.
	Don't shit where you eat.
	For the most part.
	What's your body count?
	Zero.
	I'm a virgin.
	I don't think we're going to get an honest answer for that one.
	He's born again.
	But he doesn't support born.
	Wait, are you a Christian?
	Did I say that?
	I'm asking.
	He's a modern man.
	I don't know what my modern man.
	I think that he's fixing Unanswered so that you can get away from the money.
	Nick, are you going to go get Andrew going here?
	Guys, we're going to have Andrew Wilson join the call.
	Join the stream here.
	We got a lot of notes to get through.
	I think the HGAP notes were mine because I have a huge game.
	A couple people mentioned HR and stuff, I think.
	Same.
	Is yours younger or older?
	Yeah, myself.
	Older.
	I just tried to date a 26-year-old.
	I'm 27.
	Absolutely the fuck not.
	Never again.
	Jesus, it felt like having three kids.
	I love him to death as a friend.
	Like, is this the guy that you no, no, no.
	Again, that was all when I was like 19.
	So I'm a Christian now.
	I want a monogamous, like, serious, committed relationship.
	I don't do random hookups or any kind of crazy stuff.
	Maddie, can you read this?
	Singleslash divorced mom.
	I feel not hopeful at times, but find a man who leads and cares.
	If they don't lead, they aren't men.
	OF is degenerative.
	Do any of you OF models have children?
	I bet you don't.
	No.
	And I love being a degenerate.
	I wouldn't be degenerate.
	Okay, let me.
	In regards to that, I used to have an issue like letting men lead, but I think if a man can lead properly and think about you with his decisions and lead with integrity, like biblical men should, then I'm absolutely willing to let a man lead.
	Yeah.
	You're going to let him.
	And I don't do only things.
	How nice of you to let him lead.
	It is nice.
	Yeah, it's very good.
	You have a choice.
	Andrew, would you like to introduce yourself to everyone?
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	It's the fastest growing debate channel, my knowledge, anywhere on the internet.
	Political satirist, political analyst, and I'm a blood sport debater.
	I often come on whatever podcast to talk to various people, oftentimes challenging worldviews.
	So I appreciate Brian having me on.
	I have a schedule for tonight.
	I'm here a little bit late because I had some family business to attend to.
	Welcome.
	Leading women inside.
	What's up, Andrew?
	But yeah, I think like the big misconception with like people or women hating on other women for being housewives, it's like they think that because you're a housewife, that you can't do anything and that you're stuck and that you can't leave the house in that.
	They belittle you so much.
	And I feel like I'm doing the most important work by creating the next generation.
	And I wanted to be a teacher for the same reason.
	Like you're helping mold the minds of the next generation and you really can't do anything more powerful than that.
	Yeah, I agree.
	You could by not having them.
	I mean, it's hard to do.
	That's like idiocracy.
	Have you ever seen that movie?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Hard disagreement.
	All the smart people stop having children and all the dumb people have more and more children.
	I mean, that's happening in the United States of America for the past 50 years.
	I mean, that is true.
	Statistically, the higher educated are having children later in life or less so at all.
	But I'm pretty educated.
	I consider myself a major nerd.
	I named my kids Sagan after Carl Sagan, who's a physicist.
	And I spend a lot of my free time literally just reading things about psychology and statistics and philosophy.
	And when they roast my dating profile later, you'll see that, you know, that intellect is the most important thing to me.
	So, yeah, I mean, and I think it's my duty to have more children.
	And you don't think we're overpopulated?
	You don't think the world's overpopulated?
	Sure.
	I do.
	And there's a debate on that.
	Like, you know, like Elon Musk would be.
	Why bring more children into the world and then all the children that aren't being taken care of right now?
	What about those?
	There's a lot of people who are choosing not to have children anymore to the point that it makes economists worried.
	So more population means more money.
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	Andrew introduced himself?
	Yes.
	All right.
	My Caucasian.
	Welcome, Andrew.
	Welcome.
	Welcome.
	So we're just getting through some of the pre-show notes for some of the guests.
	We have, let's see, still here on Alyssa.
	You said that you disagree on the OnlyFans stuff, but we already talked about the OnlyFans stuff.
	But you said most men don't care about OnlyFans and it doesn't hinder a woman from finding a partner.
	Hearing some of the arguments I made, do you have a change of opinion?
	I mean, I still have the same opinion just because, like I said earlier, like we're all literally the combination of billions of dependent variables that are based on our own unique nature and nurture.
	We can't like broadly say anything, but I agree with a lot of the things that you said.
	So if I say, if I can admit, and this is actually my belief, that there is some degree of cope when it comes to, oh, these OnlyFans women, they're just going to be forever alone.
	They're going to be lonely.
	They're going to have cats.
	They're never going to find a man.
	If I can admit that that's bullshit, are you able to admit that by virtue of woman having an OnlyFans or being a sex worker, that she's going to close the door on a lot of men?
	Sure, yeah, absolutely.
	A lot of men are not going to be okay with it.
	And I would even say, like, and then, again, I'm a libertarian, so I don't give a fuck what other adults do, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.
	But I wouldn't want to be with a man who was supportive of it.
	Who was, you wouldn't want to be a man who's supportive of.
	OnlyFans, yeah.
	Okay.
	Well, we already had the conversation, so we won't linger too long on the OS.
	You're a libertarian?
	I am.
	If I was going to categorize it, yes.
	Like, I have views from both sides, but for the most, like, for myself, I probably have more like based views, but I just feel like other people should, as long as it doesn't hurt anybody, do what the fuck you want.
	So you're a harm reductionist libertarian?
	Yes.
	Okay, gotcha.
	So, I mean, I do have to ask then, I'm going to try to frame this correctly for the TOS, but if a brother were to have carnal relations with their sister, what would your objection be to that as a libertarian?
	I feel like it is a harm because when it comes to reproductive issues.
	They can't reproduce, let's say.
	I mean, it's against the law.
	I think they should.
	That's not.
	So what?
	So are we having a philosophical thing?
	Philosophically, I don't give a fuck.
	That doesn't have anything to do with me.
	But within the parameters of our current society and law, then obviously they shouldn't do that.
	And I don't fucking condone it, but I mean, whatever.
	Why not?
	Why not condone it?
	There's no harm to the hypothesis.
	I'm not going to fuck my father.
	I'm not going to fuck my brother.
	Yeah, I get it.
	That's what I'm saying for me.
	You're a harm reductionist, right?
	Yeah.
	So, if there's no actual harm to reduce, you can't really say anything about it.
	How can you apply that broadly, though?
	Because you can't say that every brother and sister.
	You're going to apply it broadly right now because people get arrested for doing it because it's considered immoral.
	Right, but you've said in the instance that they can't reproduce.
	So, I can't, you can't broadly apply a standard because most of them would be able to reproduce.
	Well, you can.
	What if they were same-sex?
	I mean, I don't give a fuck if a sister woman is right.
	You don't care, right?
	So, your harm reduction is that you just don't care about things like incest, you don't care about things like necrophilia.
	You probably don't care about any of those things because there's no provable harm.
	You could absolutely say that necrophilia causes harm.
	Oh, yeah?
	Tell me how.
	It causes harm to the family members of the body.
	What if they have no family members?
	Or will their body to do it?
	It causes harm.
	The body can't consent to it, so it's a no, you can consent to it before you die.
	It causes harm because of the hey, if you look at the brand.
	Listen, if you write, wait, If you write up a will and you say, I don't care if somebody sleeps with my corpse, then like whatever, whatever.
	Then you don't care, right?
	Don't care.
	Yeah, that personally denies that.
	That's why it's stupid and leads to all sorts of immoral things.
	Whatever you say.
	It's hard to really quantify my political views, but for the most part, I'm in favor of the government being less involved in whatever extent is possible.
	Obviously, it needs to be involved for certain things, but like I don't give a fuck if gay people want to be.
	Yeah, you don't care.
	Yeah, you don't care.
	You don't care.
	I know you don't care about incest.
	You don't care about necrophilia.
	You don't care about anything.
	Your harm reductionist values are as immoral and degenerate as you can possibly imagine.
	That's why we're not a libertarian nation.
	We're not a libertarian nation.
	It's a key to degeneracy.
	Can you argue, though, that necrophilia is harmful?
	Because Stacy, for Senate, donated $200.
	In Nevada, abortion has been legally protected up until 24 months.
	Jesus Christ.
	Can we admit that at least by 24 weeks you've had enough time to decide to have an abortion or not?
	What say ye ladies?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Thank you, Stacey.
	Appreciate it.
	What say you, ladies?
	I think it's crazy to do it that late.
	24 months?
	No, 24 months?
	It's 24 weeks.
	You said 24 weeks.
	Well, it says 24 months.
	Wait, but this literally says we have this.
	Women nowadays refuse to accept responsibility for their actions.
	My wife let me and our two toddlers so that she can quote unquote have fun.
	Modern feminism has ruined the best attributes of a good woman.
	I agree.
	Newly single dad, thank you for the chat, man.
	Sorry to hear about the breakup of your family there.
	Fortunate.
	She just wanted to have fun.
	Wanted to have fun.
	Perfect justification and pretext for breaking up a marriage with two toddlers.
	Just a wonderful reason.
	Sorry to hear that, man, though.
	And going back to your notes here, so you also disagree on you don't think fat women are inherently less valuable because everyone's got a type and some people's type is fat bitches 100%.
	So my cousin will only date fat girls.
	That's his type.
	That's what he likes.
	He has curved beautiful, skinny women.
	So like, you know, it could be your standard and it would be my standard.
	I think it's most men's standard.
	Sure.
	But there's definitely a good portion of them that well, yeah, there's enough out there, I suppose, if you have a big enough population.
	But you're saying when it comes to this value conversation, so I don't think we're talking about like their value as a human being.
	We're talking about their value in the dating and sexual marketplace.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah, there are some guys that place value on that.
	That is what they are sexually attracted to specifically.
	So if we're talking about less valuable, more valuable, let's say there's a greater proportion of men who value women who are fit or who are thin.
	And while there are some men who will value an obese woman, that tends to be less than men who value thin, fit women.
	So couldn't you just make the argument then that they are less valuable in the dating marketplace?
	I guess if we're doing statistics, yes.
	Well, then it should be clarified in that way.
	Like to most men, they're going to be less valuable.
	But there's always going to be some of the things that are not.
	I don't think anybody ever really makes the argument that no women.
	No, I understand.
	Aren't you a laissez-faire libertarian?
	That would be your assessment.
	Are you a laissez-faire libertarian?
	Give me a specific example.
	Do you believe in the economic model of laissez-faire economics?
	So like anarcho-capitalism, something like this.
	No.
	Well, what sort of economic model do you ascribe to?
	I support capitalism.
	Okay, so capitalism.
	So just take basic capitalism, supply and demand, right?
	Yes.
	Do you think that there's more men or less men demanding fat women?
	I mean, like, we would have to take a poll, but my assumption is that there would be less women into it, obviously.
	Okay, so.
	I'm just saying we can't make broadcasts.
	So wait, if there's less demand for something inside of your economic theory, then it's less valuable, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so then they're less valuable.
	Glad we got that cleared up.
	I mean, fair.
	But that's not how it was laid out when I was listening to some of them.
	It seemed like a fat woman is not valuable.
	But if you can say she's less valuable in the dating market, yeah, I think that's fair.
	Well, that's, I mean, if we're having a conversation about dating, that is the context.
	And me and Andrew tend to make sort of these disclaimers when we're talking about value.
	We're not talking about your value as a human being, as a person, but we are typically specific, specifically talking about in the dating marketplace.
	Yeah, but even within that, there's still going to be some guys.
	But that's the only point that I was making.
	I don't think we disagree there.
	Andrew, I'm sure you'd agree that we don't disagree that there will be men who find obese women attractive.
	Yeah, right.
	We're just talking about basic supply and demand.
	So just like any marketplace, the dating marketplace would be a marketplace, right?
	Just it's no different than an electronics marketplace, a tobacco marketplace, whatever it is.
	The higher the demand for something, right?
	Yeah, usually it's more valuable because more people demand it.
	So this would be the same thing when you're talking about types of women, this type of thing.
	You would agree to that, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Well, I'm not ruling.
	I don't think that's a good idea.
	Listen, I'm not ruled by cognitive dissonance.
	I'm okay with my view changing.
	So if you can offer me something that deepens my perspective, I'm absolutely like, I'm not like, no, I'm just going to argue this for the sake of it.
	Do you object to value calls and value judgments when it comes to dating?
	What do you mean?
	Like, in relation to that.
	Well, I mean, do Do you object to a guy who would not want to date a woman who's overweight, for example?
	No, I think you can have whatever standard you want.
	And I actually agree with the standard about like men or women.
	My friends fucking dying in the bathroom.
	Not what?
	I'm kidding.
	He's like dying there right.
	Good.
	No, I think it's like one thing that I see argued on here a lot is that they, like, you guys will say it's fair for a guy not to want a woman that has a high body count.
	And I haven't really seen any good argument against that.
	And I actually agree.
	Oh, really?
	I can help you with that.
	No, I agree.
	I agree that it's fine to not want to be with someone who has a high body count for multiple reasons.
	Wait, but wait, let's go back to supply and demand.
	Let's go back to supply and demand.
	Do you think that men would prefer, just on average, to have a woman with a low body count or a high body count?
	I don't think that men care as much as they are.
	No, so let's say for a second that we took you and made a perfect clone of you.
	Like, let's say, I don't know, you had a twin sister or something like this, but however it was that your thought waves and brain patterns worked were mapped completely on to another woman, which is an exact doppelganger of you.
	Okay, and a man could choose.
	He fell in love with you.
	And the clone of you had slept with no people and you had slept with a hundred people and it's the same person.
	Which one do you think the man would choose?
	I think a large portion would want the girl who knows what the fuck she's doing.
	That part.
	Holy.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	So do you think that they would prefer the promiscuous you?
	Yes, this is a topic that's actually debatable.
	Well, then what you should do is just look at the camera then and say that you're going to fuck a ton of dudes because you think it's going to raise your value to men.
	Well, I don't give a fuck what anybody views my value as.
	I don't have a high body count and I don't want to count regulators or fucking oxygen receptors by sleeping with a bunch of people aimlessly.
	But wouldn't people love you more if you did?
	Some guys do prefer women who know what they're doing.
	They don't want to have to train somebody.
	Some men are possessive and want someone to themselves and I think that's also fair.
	And one argument that women have against that is like, oh, men only don't want a girl with a high body count because they're insecure.
	Even if that is the case, who cares?
	Like they're allowed to.
	Well, I don't know.
	It seems to me that the value of virgins, since there's so few of them in society, has skyrocketed in the dating marketplace and that men are competing over them a lot more than they're competing over women who are highly promiscuous.
	Has this been studied?
	Is this like a guy's a virgin to me?
	On the preferences.
	That's disgusting if they are.
	Okay, let me answer.
	On men, can we virgins around?
	Yeah, we can, but just let us finish our argument.
	We're almost done.
	So, yeah, there has been study for preferences for high or low body count.
	And men tend to prefer a lower body count, yeah.
	Okay.
	That's true.
	And they do tend to compete a lot more over women who are virgins.
	They tend to compete a lot more for them.
	So it seems that based on supply and demand, there's a lot fewer virgins.
	So the supply of them is down.
	The demand for them is up.
	Okay.
	So they can de-virgin them.
	That's what percentage.
	What percentage of women that are conventionally attractive are going to remain virgins up until the point of marriage?
	Very few.
	Very few.
	Right?
	So then that brings in the predicament of reality versus idealism, which is ideally very attractive women.
	The round meatball donated $200.
	Dating marketplace is obviously different than a market for goods.
	If you want a more complete partner, some level of exploration is necessary.
	Virgin is bad, but so is promiscuity.
	Virgin is bad.
	Totally agree.
	I don't think disagree.
	I don't think virgin is a bad person.
	Every single marketplace, she's a psychologist.
	She should know this, right?
	Every single marketplace in economics also runs off of psychology.
	It also runs off of consumer trust.
	It runs off of how people feel about the product.
	Successful marketing campaigns tug at heartstrings has nothing to do with the product at all.
	So, no.
	So, what are these studies and how recently were they done?
	What's that?
	How recent are these studies?
	I have them.
	Nick, can you get those pulled up, please?
	There's like multiple studies, both of them, please.
	What's the background on the studies?
	Were they just random men that they picked up off the street?
	I mean, to be fair, we couldn't park any study.
	No, many of these have had a meta-analysis.
	They have had a meta-analysis done on these studies.
	Did they do it for women too?
	Like, did they ask women what they thought about men that were virgins?
	Okay, but this is not what we're talking about.
	Well, no, yes.
	Actually, we do have some studies on that, too.
	It seems to be less important to women than it did to men.
	Nick, a little less zoomed in, please.
	Okay, scroll down just a bit.
	So, there was a study in 2023 re-examining the link.
	Hold on.
	Re-examining the link between premarital sex and divorce.
	Scroll down.
	There was one in this other one, sowing wild oats, valuable experience, or field full of weeds, personal relationships, and some, I don't know.
	There's another one from 2018, fewer sex partners means a happier marriage.
	There's 2018 from Wolfinger, promiscuous America, smart, secular, and somewhat less happy.
	Yeah.
	There's 1974 premarital sexual behavior.
	But that's not the topic.
	The topic is, do men, where are the studies that specifically say that men prefer women with less body counts as a person?
	Nick, the next one.
	And I don't discredit that.
	You could be right.
	I just haven't seen that.
	There's a whole bunch of promiscuity and infidelity.
	I could just say I'm a purpose.
	There's a correlation.
	2017.
	Okay.
	So listen.
	I can agree with all of this, by the way.
	I am highly aware of the neuroscience behind why having a bunch of sex partners is not good for you.
	It essentially down-regulates your fucking oxytocin receptors.
	And for men, dopamine, well, both women and men, but more so with men, the vasopressin and the dopamine.
	So it's not good.
	If you want someone who can actually emotionally connect, you're going to find that person less likely because what happens is a neural imprint.
	Then why earlier did you just say that most men would prefer women with?
	No, no, I'm not saying most.
	I'm just saying I don't know that it's the case that men care.
	Like I've heard and I've seen on online debates, a lot of men say they would prefer to be with someone who knows what they're doing, who has a little more experience.
	I think those men are probably think it's having a lot of high body count is not ideal like for me because it's the same issue in men because I want someone with properly functioning dopamine receptors who's not going to be more prone to risky behavior and that can actually pair bonds and be monogamous because that's what I would want out of a partner.
	Also, why would you make the assumption the other direction?
	Promiscuity can also reflect mental health issues, not to stigmatize them, but like you have higher promiscuity with like proxy for mental health issues.
	That's another justification for a man not wanting to date somebody.
	Right.
	I'm not saying that those reasonings don't exist because I agree.
	But you're trying to justify mental health mental health.
	No, no, no, no.
	I think it's fair for someone not to want to be with someone with a high body count because it could reflect mental health issues because high promiscuity is associated with things like BPD.
	And we have millions of years of evolutionary biology coded into our DNA geared towards self-preservation.
	So it's fair to not want to be with someone who has a high body count.
	You know, sex isn't the same thing.
	You're more at risk for evolution.
	How would you prepaternity tests make a determination on if a child was yours from a man's perspective?
	How would you do that?
	How would what?
	Pre-paternity tests, which are recent, from an evolutionary standpoint, how would you as a man be able to make a determination that a child a woman had was yours?
	Looks.
	What do you mean?
	Oh, okay.
	So, I mean, I guess.
	How would you determine that?
	You would just look at them and see if they look like you, I suppose.
	Well, if they were more chaste, right, they had less promiscuity, then this is a woman who you could count on likely to actually be bearing your child, right?
	Right.
	So, we listen to that.
	So, wouldn't that be wired in as a preference then evolutionarily?
	It could be, but I think the dating market is vastly different because of second wave feminism, leading to hookup culture.
	Just to be clear, so when was hold on, when was second wave feminism?
	I don't know the fucking dates.
	When within the past century, yes.
	Do you think that do you think that the evolutionary basis that Andrew's arguing about has been undone in the course of less than 100 years?
	Definitely.
	To some extent, yes, absolutely.
	That's not how.
	Okay, make a poll then.
	That's not how evolution is.
	Make a poll.
	Make a poll.
	Let's ask the guests.
	No, listen, I agree with you guys on this.
	I'm just saying you can't say that all women, all men, or even the majority of men prefer events.
	We're not putting anything in a mind.
	You are saying the majority of men prefer.
	I would say the majority of men prefer.
	And you could be right, but where are you drawing this conclusion?
	Let me ask you a question.
	If you look up into the sky and I say that the sky is blue, do I need a study to prove that the sky is blue?
	And the false equivalence is that shit.
	It's God.
	So you want a study that indicates that men have been surveyed.
	How about this?
	If I ask my chat, well, the burden of proof is on you.
	So if you're making these points, then yes, you should show a study, not in regards to divorce or any other shit that you just picked up.
	Pulled up.
	But if you're going to say men prefer women who don't know what the fuck they're doing, I'm just saying, like, you can look online and see men talk about the same thing.
	Dude, so let's dive into this real quick then.
	Let's find out and we'll test your logic and see if that's true.
	You're requesting empirical data as the burden of evidence for whether or not this can be demonstrated to you, which I think is fair.
	But what if we could logically demonstrate it for you?
	That's also another way in which a thing can be demonstrated to a person that does not require empiricism, correct?
	It depends on the topic.
	You can't logically, I don't think you can apply that to any argument stance.
	Well, you're going to speak on behalf of other men and empiricism itself is just a foundational ethos of I believe X.
	So like you would have to justify why we should even use empiricism.
	But that aside, yeah, I mean, hang on, you would, but I'm just going to grant that maybe we could, as long as you'll grant that I could also logically demonstrate something to you as well.
	Because you'd have to logically demonstrate why we should use empirical data.
	I'm just going to grant that we should.
	But if I can logically demonstrate for you, for instance, that most of the world is religious, most of the world is religious, not some.
	And most of the religions of the world have some kind of virtue ethic when it comes to sex.
	Is that correct?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Well, then there must be some preference for promiscuity.
	Does that mean they uphold it from the position of both men and women?
	I mean, you could also argue that someone who is promiscuous is probably more fertile.
	I mean, you could really dive into that on all of these.
	That does not contend with my argument that I just gave you.
	Okay, but that would be to assume that most religions.
	Stop.
	Let me make the argument again and then steel man the argument before you respond to it.
	Okay.
	The argument is if most of the world is religious, most religions have a sexual ethic which is against promiscuity, which they do, then it seems that people must have some preference against sexual promiscuity.
	That would be a sound conclusion.
	Can you steal man the argument first and then give me an argument counter to it?
	I think what you're saying is valid, but I think that not everyone who's religious upholds religious values by far.
	By far.
	There are hires.
	That's a non-sequitur.
	What's the argument?
	The argument is that until there's actual data saying what men prefer, then all of this is just hypothetical bullshit.
	It can't be hypothetical.
	We have empirical data on religion.
	When was religion formed?
	Empirically, that most of the world is religious.
	Right, when was religion formed?
	You have to take into context society at the time that it was formed.
	Why?
	We don't live.
	Because we don't live in that comet anymore.
	We don't live in that comet anymore.
	No, no, no.
	That's literally, that's a genetic fallacy.
	What are you talking about?
	That's a fallacious form of argumentation.
	People who are in the world.
	Why would we have to go to when a religion was formed to make a determination that right this second, most of society is religious.
	And most societies of the world have some kind of religion they adhere to with sexual ethics, which are against promiscuity.
	Therefore, there must be some preference against promiscuity, unless you can give me a counter-argument to that.
	I'm not saying that there's not a preference.
	I'm saying, and most of the people that would be in favor of women who are more experienced are not going to be religious to begin with.
	So you're adding all these variables.
	That's not a counterargument.
	That kind of hucks, to be honest.
	I mean, I don't think that's a good idea.
	That's not a counter-argument.
	Like, what's the counter-argument to it?
	Some people might not be religious.
	I know, I'm granting that.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Right, but you're trying to add in a bunch of variables that may not be applicable in today's society.
	I don't know very many people who have said things along the lines of I prefer a woman who's more experienced that are religious.
	Most of the people in the world do not live in Western societies.
	Most do not.
	Okay, so are we having a world debate or an American culture?
	We're talking about Muslims and we're talking about Jews and we're talking about Christians and we're talking about all sorts of different religions which exist.
	There's almost in all of them an ethic against sexual promiscuity.
	Almost all of them.
	If we're talking about the most world against promiscuity, right?
	Yeah, if we're talking worldwide, yeah, that's fair.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So you.
	Well, I mean, you don't think that human beings evolved.
	You don't think that men, the ontological nature of what is a man in a Muslim nation is different than the ontological nature of a man here, right?
	I mean, they're the same.
	They're both men.
	I think why would they have a preference there?
	There's distinct from a preference here for all of us who are religious seem to have this preference, and most people are religious.
	There's multiple factors that go into a person's decision making, and religion is not the only thing.
	There are social aspects, generational aspects.
	And are you arguing that what things are like in Egypt right now are similar to America?
	Are you saying the culture is not a problem?
	Well, there's going to be a cultural, of course, there's going to be culturalism.
	But their religions can be uniform even absent culture.
	So for instance, Muslim religion in Africa could be exactly the same religion which is followed in the middle of Qatar, whatever, right?
	Sure.
	But the point is, yeah, we can even take into account these cultural considerations, but if most of the world is religious, and you agree that it is, and we can empirically demonstrate that, you empirically know that that's true, then I don't understand how I haven't given you a good logical demonstration.
	Because we also know that most people are against promiscuity.
	There are less and less religious people as time goes on.
	Only the West.
	Okay, so I live in the West.
	So that's what I'm debating.
	I already gave you the, if we're considering the whole world, then absolutely that's fair.
	But if we're talking about American culture, I just don't think it's fair to say that most men want a woman who's a virgin or inexperienced.
	Most people in the United States identify with a religion.
	Most.
	Okay.
	Well, you would, I mean, if you're talking about the people who are.
	Yeah, you're talking about somewhere between 19 and 30% whose self-ID is agnostic or atheist.
	And even those people will often identify as being culturally Christian.
	So the thing is, is that if that's true, even here, the majority of people, even here, and the immigrants which come into the country come in usually with a religious background.
	South America, especially, they're Catholic.
	If they're coming in from the East, they're Muslim, you know, or they are.
	There's many other religions.
	There's even Christian sects that allow polygamy.
	And then there's all the different sects of paganism that don't.
	There's very few in the West does not allow polygamy.
	It's not only illegal, it's considered immoral.
	And Christian polygamists are not allowed to be polygamists.
	Okay, maybe not legally, but you want to ask me.
	No, not even spiritually.
	Is it legal in Nevada?
	No.
	It's not legal to be a polygamist in Nevada.
	Okay.
	Wait, so there's other religions.
	Let me ask you a question here.
	Do you think that, like, do you think that men are thinking, I like her, but I would like her more had she fucked more men before me?
	No, I don't think it's a matter of that.
	I just think sometimes guys want a woman who's more experienced, and unfortunately, they're not going to find that in a virgin.
	Okay, I would argue the men that want.
	First off, let's be real here.
	Most pussy is good pussy.
	It's really not hard, all that hard.
	Sex isn't this complicated procedure, especially as a woman.
	For women to be good in bed, it really doesn't take much.
	So this idea that the more sexual partners you've had, that also, actually on that note, wouldn't you argue that the woman who's had one sexual partner, but she's had sex with that partner a thousand times is going to be more sexually experienced than the woman who's a hundred men one time each.
	There's so many variables to this.
	How experimental is that one couple?
	If they're doing the same shit every time, then they're not really, she's not getting a lot of experience.
	Okay, no, one of the kind of cheap shots that's often used by pure empiricists is this idea of a multifaceted variables making the thing so complex that we can't actually make any deductions from it or inductions from it.
	But the truth is, is that correlates, there's usually primary correlates and then there's kind of non-prime, you know, non-primary correlates.
	We still can look at primary correlates here when we're looking at data.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	I mean, you would agree that that's true.
	So just kind of just kind of waving it off and saying, hey, you know, there's tons and tons of variables.
	Nobody's going to dispute that there's tons of variables, but there's still going to be prime correlates that we can look at.
	And that's what Brian's kind of pointing to, is these prime correlates.
	Yeah, I think that's fair.
	I'm not saying that it's not a lot of men who would prefer to be with a virgin or someone who has a lower body count.
	I'm just saying you can't put this broad generalization on everyone because even on social media, you can read through hundreds of comments of men saying the opposite.
	So I'm just saying objectively until there's like recent studies.
	I'm not sure if you understand that these men don't exist.
	But generally speaking, if we're having a converse, we could talk about the dating habits of dwarfs.
	I guess it would depend on the fact that the specific dating habits of dwarves who live in Ecuador, we can talk about it if you want.
	But if we're speaking about just generalities here, we can arrive at some generalities.
	And generally speaking, men prefer sexual purity in women.
	I mean, the men in the study.
	What study?
	I'm just telling you, like, among our age groups.
	I need not even look at a study to make this determination.
	Everyone's going to have their own inadol.
	And I'm telling you, in our age group, There's a variety of proportion of men who prefer women who are more experienced.
	So it's not as relevant from them.
	Let's talk about something more simple then.
	Do you think it's a majority of men that prefer women with a lot of sexual experience?
	I mean, I don't know.
	That's the whole point, is that I don't know.
	You don't know.
	I wouldn't feel confident in saying yes.
	So, just to be clear, if a high body count is proxy for promiscuity, do you think a man would prefer to date a woman who hasn't had sex in a year?
	Or let's say date and sleep with.
	He'd prefer to sleep with a woman who hasn't had sex in a year or a woman who fucked a guy an hour ago.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Okay.
	What about a day ago?
	I mean, some men don't give a shit, but for the most part, yeah, I think you don't think men have a disgust response to a woman who's recently fucked another guy.
	This is what I can tell you from having been a dancer when I was younger.
	Hold on, let me ask you a question.
	Didn't earlier you said that you wouldn't date a bi guy?
	Yes.
	Why?
	For multiple reasons.
	Because he recently had sex with another man, right?
	Well, that was y'all's topic, but yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, no.
	And again, my value system is very simple.
	Do you have like a kind of a, what was your response to your refusal to dating a bisexual man?
	I want to say that.
	Was it a disgust response?
	There's not a disgust.
	No, didn't you say like I want someone who's attracted to me?
	Who was the one who said it would be gross because he just maybe it was you?
	It wasn't me.
	It was you?
	Okay.
	All right.
	But you wouldn't.
	But I understand the perspective, yeah.
	Right.
	So like I have to validate that.
	I'm just telling you, like from my experience, having done OnlyFans when I was younger, being a dancer when I was younger, most men don't care as much as y'all would like to pretend to be.
	No, not most men.
	I've never had a misfortune.
	Where's your study for that?
	I said it was anecdotal experience as having been a person.
	I'm sure.
	And as I was trying to get at the point earlier, is that men probably have a preference for attractive women that happen to not be virgins.
	Now.
	What?
	I was because I was alluding to the fact that a lot of attractive women are not going to be virgins.
	Yeah.
	valdev donated 200 and so pro christian atheist here i can promise you men will gladly bang a Very, very few men will wed a whore.
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	You think it's a W?
	By the way, good to see you back in the chat, Valdiv.
	Like, do you think that's a W for you as a woman?
	Well, guys still want to fuck me.
	No, no, no.
	Where's the ring?
	Where's the commitment?
	Where's the title?
	I mean, I've been married for 10 years and I was a huge whore back in the day.
	So if we're talking about the business, there's outliers specifically outliers.
	I've already said that I don't do OnlyFans and I want to be with someone who is monogamous.
	I'm not attracted to people with high body counts.
	I don't have a high body count.
	So if I sat here and I denied that women are attracted to tall men, would you look at me like I'm an idiot?
	And I don't, okay.
	You know what?
	Because women don't have a general dude.
	Hold on.
	You're in good faith here.
	You really think that women, generally speaking, don't have a preference for tall men?
	Yes, 100%.
	Everyone has a preference.
	Yes, and all the pretty bad things.
	No, I agree.
	Yeah, yeah.
	God.
	I just think that you guys hope that men view things the way you do.
	And I would hope that there was more men that view it that way.
	But in reality, I just don't think that's the case.
	I don't get that.
	But in reality, we do think it's the case.
	So this is the problem with that.
	I would be at one side of your mouth banking on the menu.
	At one side of the mouth, you bank on empiricism.
	Then on the other side of your mouth, to make your arguments, you bank on anecdotal evidence.
	I just want to know how much sex you guys get.
	I don't see any reason.
	I want to know how much sex you guys both have had in my life.
	I'm in the middle of talking.
	Calm down.
	So I don't know why it is that we should actually believe your arguments if they're just anecdotal.
	I don't know how many guys have you fucked the past two months.
	That's a good question.
	What's your argument?
	I don't know if you don't know.
	I just feel like men are angry that they don't.
	Andrew, I don't know if you heard what she said, but she was like, I wonder how much sex you guys have had.
	So how many guys have you fucked the past month?
	I asked you first.
	How many, when was the last time you had sex?
	Answer the question.
	No, I asked you a question first.
	I've already told you I don't discuss that sort of stuff.
	Well, then I don't discuss it either.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, so on with it's fair.
	It's fair.
	I'll discuss it.
	I'll answer if you answer.
	You ready?
	Go ahead.
	Let's hear it.
	Wait, no, she hasn't agreed.
	Hold on.
	She hasn't agreed.
	No, you haven't agreed.
	Yeah, we got to make sure we get to the point.
	Andrew discloses, will you disclose?
	Yes, that's fair.
	Okay, great.
	I've had sex with one woman this last year.
	How many of you have?
	Look at how much sex.
	How much sex have you had?
	I have sex every day.
	Ooh.
	As it should be.
	Well, then, good.
	Yeah, how about you?
	Now answer, please.
	Every day.
	I've had sex with one person.
	And I've had, I don't know, probably six or seven times.
	I've asked two ones.
	And then the question?
	Yeah.
	I'm happy.
	What about you, Brian?
	Oh, wait, he doesn't.
	Yeah, he doesn't disclose that.
	I don't even understand the argument.
	The argument is basically like, if you're a man, if you're a man, then you have an opinion on this.
	Your opinion's only valid if you've had sexual intercourse.
	Anyway, all I'm saying is, I think it probably is the case that maybe there's a little bit more, but I think a study should be done for me to feel confident agreeing to that just because I've seen, again, and I admit it, it's anecdotal evidence of men portraying one thing and then in reality not giving a fuck.
	I've never had an OnlyFans friend that could not find men.
	I've never, and it really be like the most red-pilled dude, like the sissy sub is the most red-pilled person that I know.
	And a lot of the subbers on your on OnlyFans are people's like coach dads or like the ones like I'm against OnlyFans.
	So I just have a hard time accepting without evidence that most men in today's society prefer virgins.
	But I understand the reasoning for preferring virgins or people that don't have a high body count.
	I don't dispute that in any way.
	Okay, so look, here's the situation, right?
	Will a woman who's promiscuous, will a woman who's engaged in sex work, be able to find a boyfriend?
	Yes.
	Can they find a husband?
	Yes.
	But we're having a conversation of what men prefer.
	So just because men might prefer one thing or another, I think they just want to be the hot shit.
	I think most want to give you a hot shit and they don't really care.
	I'll give you hot shit.
	They want to get fucked.
	I would prefer me personally.
	Me personally, if it's between like a girl who's a seven, who's a virgin, and just to be clear, talking about her physical appearance here, Jesus Christ.
	Somebody's going to clip that shit.
	And then a woman who's like a 10 who slept with 100 men.
	I'd much prefer to date and have a relationship with the girl who's a seven.
	I feel like the sevens are totally fair.
	I'm not arguing that at all.
	Like the frequency.
	I just think most men don't get a lot of fun.
	Like the tens are definitely.
	No, nowadays the tens are definitely having like a lot of sex.
	It's like an I think most men are going to go for sexual.
	But date in their mouth.
	But for sevens and above, and they're still having a sex.
	And I hope I'm wrong, by the way.
	They're still having a lot of people.
	I would love to believe that men really uphold the values that.
	Hold on.
	But just to be clear, like the men you probably are around, you were a stripper.
	You did OnlyFans.
	No, no, no.
	Around churchmen that literally procure it's not what's your denomination?
	I'm a non-denominational Christian.
	Okay.
	Should I pick a denomination?
	I guess you could say I'm a Protestant because I'm not a Catholic.
	Okay.
	I see how they push for that.
	You could classify me as that.
	Well, we can go in circles on this the whole time.
	Did you not find the paternity uncertainty argument that Andrew made compelling?
	Sure.
	So there's an evolutionary basis.
	So for example, 100%.
	So for example, if a woman has 10 husbands and she's sleeping with all 10 of them prior to DNA testing, who's the father?
	You don't know.
	But if a man has 10 wives, you know who the father is in all instances.
	And you know who the mother is in all instances.
	So for this reason, right, this reason, it's an evolutionary reason.
	Paternity uncertainty, it's one of the biggest L's you can take as a guy to raise a child, like to think that the child's yours, where there's paternity fraud, to think that the child is yours, but it actually isn't.
	You got cheated on, you got cucked.
	Major L for a guy.
	Right, but like think about it.
	You just had Destiny on here recently.
	That is a great reflection of men these days.
	I don't think most men give a fuck.
	Like most men don't even want to have kids.
	Well, he's on the kids.
	Most men are with polygamous relationships.
	Like most men don't have the standard where they're like.
	He's not religious.
	That's not men.
	You think that most men want to let their wife get fucked by other men?
	I think a lot of, okay, maybe not their wife, but I think a lot of men just really don't give a fuck about this anymore.
	Why'd you say destiny was a good reflection of the general population?
	I mean, a lot of men are that way now.
	There's not a lot of men.
	Demonstrate it for me.
	Make a poll.
	How many people are polygamous?
	How can I demonstrate it for you when I'm not like no, that's not my question?
	How many staffs do you think let other men on purpose bang their chick?
	I think there's a lot of people in open relationships.
	Just a percentage.
	Let's see how many men are having.
	That's an alternative question because it hasn't.
	If you can show me a fucking poll, why do I have to make your point?
	Do you think that non-monogamy is on the rise?
	And do you think that religiousness is going down?
	Because both of those things are true in our country.
	Yeah, but this is not you demonstrating for us that you think that guys like Destiny are a reflection of the general public of men.
	That's an insane claim.
	And I would really like to see you justify some.
	I'm telling you, non-monogamy is on the rise in America.
	Religiousness is on the downfall.
	Getting married.
	Marriage is on the downfall.
	Divorce is at a crazy rate.
	So I think that really reflects that people don't really uphold these morals that were around fucking, you know, even 20 years ago.
	But look, I think that climate change is.
	That's not 1,000% agree.
	Listen, that is in no way, shape, or form.
	I'm going to grant all of those as being true.
	Because for the most part, all are true.
	Okay.
	That still has nothing to do with the claim that most men in the general public are letting other men on purpose bang their chicks.
	That's an outrageous claim.
	I don't think, I think, for the most part, when you consider that religiousness is not as popular, non-monogamy is becoming popular, people don't care as much what the fucking body count is.
	Am I saying that they shouldn't?
	I think you should for multiple reasons.
	Like someone with a high body count reflects danger on multiple levels physically.
	There is no reason for us to believe that because you're non-religious, because you're non-religious, you're going to let other men ply your chicks.
	But your argument was that religious people care about purity, and I don't think that's the case either, typically.
	Yeah, but I think that most men—why do you get married, even as a secularist?
	Do you think that it's so that you can share your chick?
	No, but not everybody supports marriage.
	So how does that factor into the debate?
	Well, most secularists are still getting married.
	No, you're kind of proving my point.
	Less people are getting married.
	So if that's not a case of marriage.
	But secularists are still getting married.
	So the thing is, is that secular is still getting married, religious people are still getting married.
	Want virgins or people, like, I'm not, I just want to see data that's backing the point because what I'm saying is that.
	You're making the point.
	That burden's on you, not on us.
	No, actually, y'all made the point.
	No, you made the point that the general public is like destiny.
	He's a good reflection of the general public.
	The general point is that you can't.
	Well, you can just retract the claim and say you were wrong.
	You say that most men prefer a woman that has a lower body count.
	I'm saying, show me any data that reflects that this generation of men give a shit because I don't think they do.
	I think if it's just to sleep with them, they don't care.
	That they don't.
	Okay, let us assume that it's not that much.
	Exactly.
	That's not what I think they're talking about.
	I think they're talking about for long-term commitment.
	But like, look, she's in a long-term committed relationship.
	I have multiple friends that are OnlyFans, girls, porn stars, dancers, who are all in committed monogamous relationships.
	So these men obviously don't give a fuck.
	But she's not in a committed monogamous relationship.
	Right?
	Unless they, I mean, they live together.
	It's very much.
	It's a very serious relationship.
	Yeah, and it is a very serious relationship.
	It's the most serious one I've ever had.
	Oh, I wasn't doubting the serious.
	I meant about the monogamy.
	That's just a little different, you know?
	It's a little different than what you might think is like normal.
	Well, that just kind of reiterates the point.
	Like, you can be in a serious relationship and not even expect monogamy.
	And that's becoming culturally normal.
	And I don't think that's.
	It's not culturally normal.
	I'm not.
	You don't think it's culturally normal among our generation?
	It's becoming more.
	It's not culturally normal anywhere in the United States or in any Western nation that I'm aware of, if you're married or even have a girlfriend, that you on purpose allow other men to plow her.
	That is not a cultural norm.
	No.
	Okay, so is the argument.
	They're ostracized by other men.
	They're called cucks by other men.
	They're considered to be less virtuous.
	They're mocked.
	They're ridiculed endlessly.
	But let's talk about a bunch of fun men.
	Let's stay on the point.
	Let's stay on the point.
	It reflects that men do not care how many women are.
	There are circles on the table, and that's good that you're doing it because that's what your arguments are.
	They're circular.
	No, you're not going to put side tangents to distract from the original point.
	If you can show me data that shows that modern American men care about virginity or body count, then I will absolutely concede because I am.
	I've already displayed that I'm walking around.
	Yeah, but the problem with that.
	Your argument is not strong enough for me to do that on this point.
	But it doesn't matter if the argument is not strong enough for your skepticism.
	Empirical data is not in a standard which must be adhered to when you have logical demonstration.
	So I logically demonstrated to you that there must be some preference for chastity or most of the world wouldn't be religious with chaste religious values.
	Okay, it must be the case that they must value it to some degree.
	Right, and I gave you that if we were talking about the whole world, and then I clarified that if we're talking about America, I just don't see anything that shows that men really care as much as you're claiming.
	I got a question.
	I got a question.
	If we were to do some poll, if we were to go into the street and approach 100 men and we gave them two options and we said, would you prefer to date a woman with a body count of 10 or a body count of 100?
	Do you think they would lean more towards one or the other?
	Okay, let's make the question what you said earlier, a 10 who has a higher body count or a 7 that has a higher 100 country.
	No, no, these things factor in.
	Like, I think men care more about how hot a chick is than they do her body count.
	Okay, so here we go.
	Personality, individual differences.
	You can find this study.
	It was done by KT Soan.
	Men's Revealed Preferences Regarding Women's Promiscuity.
	In the abstract, literally right away in the abstract.
	Now, if you want, I can get into, because I think it's fair if you're doing anything that's empirical that you want to probably understand methodologies, things like this.
	But men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity and an abhorrence of promiscuity in long-term mates.
	We investigated whether these preferences manifest themselves even in an unlikely situation like prostitution by observing men's behavior.
	We considered 8,817 prostitutes under 45 who worked in Indonesian cities.
	We measured female promiscuity by experience in prostitution.
	So if we go ahead, without going into every detail, essentially in almost every section of this, they preferred less promiscuity.
	Now, you could say, well, we could adjust because they're comparing them to prostitutes and there's cultural stigma.
	I can understand that too.
	We're also talking about America specifically.
	Yeah, you can look at all sorts of different variables inside the study.
	Variables matter.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I grant that as being totally fair.
	Okay.
	I just want to let you know that what's interesting about it is that what's cited in the abstract immediately is that men have evolved to exhibit a desire for chastity and sexual fidelity and an abhorrence of promiscuity and long-term mates.
	Why would that be fundamental in the abstract from people who have an evolutionary view?
	Why would that be the case?
	From an evolutionary perspective, it's 100% valid.
	And if you believe in evolution, correct?
	I do.
	then what the hell are you talking about?
	I'm saying that evolution is not the only thing that factors into a person's decision making.
	Yes, that's what I'm saying.
	You just said that evolutionarily, men have evolved to not like promiscuity, but you're not convinced that men don't like promiscuity.
	I'm super confused.
	I'm saying that there's many things that factor into a person's personality and their decision making.
	There's nurture, there's nature, there's evolutionary biology, there's generational influences.
	There's a lot of influences on what makes a person make a decision.
	Yeah, but what's going to be boiling down to the individual thing is that it's not a problem.
	For instance, in nature versus nurture, we don't really know.
	It could be 50-50.
	It could be 70-30.
	We don't know.
	But when you're talking about nature, literally is a good point.
	But when you're talking about nature itself, it almost always does come down to nature.
	You're talking about things like IQ, things like this.
	100%, yeah.
	There's only X amount that can be done from nurture.
	But the thing that's interesting is that even if we take into account, let's say it is a 50-50 between nature and nurture, then your evolutionary biology of promiscuity, the nurture portion of that would also be brought down to the children from the biological parents who were evolved to not like the promiscuity.
	So you would have both of those strong correlates there.
	You cannot like it, but what was the question on here, right?
	Like that if a girl who does OnlyFan is less likely to find a partner, and your retort to that is it's because men want someone who's less promiscuous or doesn't have a high body count.
	I think even if that is the case, which I'm not saying it is because I don't know, I haven't seen anything that convinces me enough that men really carefully, okay, on evolutionary level, for sure.
	Absolutely.
	But that's not the case.
	So then on the nurture level, that's going to be part of evolution.
	And when it comes to if they're actually going to date an OnlyFans girl, I don't see many of them not in relationships or lacking relationships.
	We've already granted you that women who do OnlyFans can get into relationships.
	We're not saying women who do OnlyFans, they'll be forever alone.
	They're going to be entirely precluded from ever having a male partner.
	But I don't think they're even less likely to find someone, though.
	Wait, didn't you literally concede?
	I don't know if it was you.
	I'm saying that you don't acknowledge that a woman who's involved in sex work, you don't think it closes the door at all for any men?
	Yeah, to some, I would argue that's the most point.
	Right, that's where we're having the disagreement.
	So most would be most would be 51% or more.
	I don't necessarily think 51% of men want to date a woman?
	Let's do that.
	Even if they don't want to, that doesn't mean that they're not doing it.
	I could say, I prefer, okay, I could say I prefer a guy who doesn't have a high body count.
	And then I meet someone and I fall in love with them and I'm like, you know what?
	As long as you're monogamous with me, I can look past it.
	And I think that happens a lot for men.
	I just have one last question, right?
	Because I just want to tell you on the other end of the study.
	Now, to be completely fair to you, I'm looking this up on the fly because you're asking for empirical data, right?
	So, I mean, you have every right to question it.
	But one thing here, the results that were derived from this particular study, it demonstrated that men exhibited those evolutionary preferences because they paid less to more experienced prostitutes and they paid more to less experienced prostitutes.
	Why do you think that would be?
	To avoid STDs, I'm sure.
	But again, you're trying to compare prostitutes.
	Hang on, these prostitutes were STDs.
	That was a great experience.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Mr. Dennis 500.
	He's a raven, okay?
	Let me draven.
	Time to move on.
	All right, we've got to mute our mic for 10 minutes because that's amazing.
	Can I just finish it real quick?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	They controlled for STDs.
	So why did they want the less experienced prostitutes and paid them more than the more experienced prostitutes?
	10 seconds and then we're going to.
	If I had to imagine, it would be to avoid STDs.
	Like you're going to.
	Yeah, no, that was controlled for.
	They didn't have STDs.
	And the people participating in the study knew this.
	Less experienced women are a lot easier to dominate.
	Okay.
	But wait, I thought that the reason that we value the promiscuity is because those experienced women had experience.
	Why are they getting paid less?
	That's weird.
	Mute it.
	We'll put her back on at 10.
	Okay.
	It's just like you wouldn't even know.
	I mean, I was enjoying that argument, but okay, fair enough.
	You weren't even answering the 10 versus 100.
	You mentioned STDs.
	Hold up.
	Well, they can't even hear you.
	Your microphone's muted.
	Look.
	You mentioned STDs.
	The more sexual partners you've had, the greater risk for STDs.
	In any case.
	I'm going to move on.
	So we're going to get to our notes here for Sky.
	Skye, you said you were engaged in the we kind of talked about your online thing.
	You took the mushrooms thing.
	Yeah.
	He molded a large amount of your interests.
	He really did.
	You wasted your time on him.
	You said you used to hook up with a guy who was a mechanic, but you're actually kind of terrified that you're terrified of?
	Yeah, I'm kind of terrified of his interest in me because for the most part, he did you want to read the rest of what he requested from me?
	Yeah, he wanted to dress, he wanted you to dress him up and do his makeup for him to get railed by a dude and for you to watch and degrade him.
	Yeah, that's essentially what he wanted.
	And so what it's wild.
	What really terrifies me about the situation is the willingness for him to like.
	Did you do it?
	No, I haven't done it.
	And I don't plan on doing it.
	It's comfortable.
	I wasn't with him.
	Oh, okay.
	He was the guy that I went on five dates with.
	And what date did he reveal that?
	Right?
	He didn't unveil that until recently.
	He unveiled it, like.
	I had come with him in, like, 2020.
	And then since then, he's just reached out to me a few times.
	I reached out to him today because I wanted to see how he's doing.
	Why?
	Oh, okay.
	Anyways, you said you disagree with the host's dating expectations.
	So what are those?
	So, necessarily, when you say the burdens of like dating and primarily being on the guy, I think that the guy chooses essentially who he wants to be with, and the woman has to acquiesce to that.
	A woman does not set the tone of the relationship by being the one that wants to engage.
	She may desire the relationship, but he's the one that ultimately decides, okay, we're going to be together.
	Well, I don't understand.
	What does that have to do with?
	What does that have to do with my dating expectations?
	Dating expectations, I think I was saying it along the lines of you were framing it as though men have this tremendous burden or this inequitable burden to date in the dating realm that, you know, they have to pursue the woman, they have to.
	Do you disagree with that?
	You don't think men have to be initiators and typically have to.
	I just don't think of it as a burden.
	I think of it, yeah.
	Have you ever approached a guy?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Several times.
	Same.
	Do you have any anxiety when you do that?
	There's no...
	I mean, there's definitely emotions involved, but I don't think...
	I think the more that you've done it, the less sensitive you are to it.
	Sure.
	Depends on whether or not you're a submissive woman or a dominant woman.
	Because if you're an aggressor, you're going to go after the guy.
	I go after the guy.
	I don't wait for the guy to come to me.
	But I'm also very particular with the type of guys that I like.
	So you disagree that it's a burden.
	I don't think.
	I think the phrasing of it being a burden means that, like, it's a negative experience going into it.
	When in reality, how many men have you rejected throughout your life?
	Ooh, I can't.
	No, no, no, no.
	Let me ask these other girls here.
	How many men would you say you've rejected throughout the course of your life?
	Oh, like.
	Thousands?
	Yeah, probably thousands.
	Every DM you don't respond to, if you've had the dating app, every message you don't respond to, any guys who've ever approached you at a bar or a club or at school, whatever it is, thousands?
	Thousands?
	Yeah?
	A lot.
	Yeah, how many times have you been rejected?
	One time.
	One time?
	What about you?
	Twice.
	How many guys would you say you've rejected?
	A lot.
	Thousands?
	Sure.
	Thousands.
	Maybe hundreds.
	I don't know about thousands.
	Have you ever been rejected?
	No.
	How many men have you rejected?
	My mom's up.
	My mic is up.
	Oh, that's right.
	Oops.
	I've probably rejected around like 20 men total.
	Have you ever been on a dating app?
	Oh, God.
	You've rejected a lot more than 20 men if you've been on a dating app.
	Have you ever been rejected?
	Yes.
	Okay, how many times?
	At least like 20.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you?
	How many times have you rejected men?
	If you include Instagram DMs and Screen.
	Yeah, Instagram DMs.
	A lot.
	Okay.
	Thousands?
	Throughout the thousands.
	I mean, maybe if you include the internet, yeah.
	Include the internet, bars, clubs, men approaching you.
	What about you?
	Yeah, same thousands and thousands, Madison.
	Hundreds.
	So if you're a man and say that you're, and actually, I mean, a success rate of like 10% of the women you talk to, you end up sleeping with.
	That's a very high success rate for a man.
	How could that not be a burden if you have to talk to 10 women and get, you know, make an effort, make initiative, make an attempt?
	Who knows how far?
	You could take those 10 women on dates even and it not go anywhere.
	How could that not be a burden?
	It's not necessarily a burden.
	How is it not a burden?
	That's the selection pool.
	You go into dating with the idea that, okay, this is a potential mate, this is a potential, but it's not guaranteed.
	But if we're comparing, so we're doing a comparison here between men and women.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	So the experiences of men compared to the experiences of women, if all of these burdens fall on men, approaching, carrying the conversation, soliciting a first date, soliciting the phone number, setting up the date, carrying and leading the conversation on the date, paying for the date, moving things forward physically, moving things forward sexually, closing the distance gap, going for the kiss, et cetera, et cetera.
	These are all individual points where men potentially face rejection.
	Women face rejection via like their assertion of femininity and I don't even know what that means.
	Like, okay, like, say for instance, you're not as receptive to a move that a guy makes, but you're still very much interested in him.
	That could be taken.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, you're not making sense.
	Because if I'm interested in a guy, I'm not going to reject a move that he makes.
	Right.
	And like when you say you're into the mics, guys, if you're going to be the assessment of femininity, what does that mean?
	Meaning, like there's certain dating practices that both men and women have to uphold.
	And a woman asserting her feminine.
	And.
	And shit, my phrasing of this is not great.
	But women have to mentally brace themselves for responding to men and being attractive,
	understanding their idea of what a girlfriend should be um trying to uh forecast his actual um responsiveness to you as a person because uh sometimes guys will go into relationships and they look for women that don't show them as much attention um because they want i'm sorry i gotta cut you off I don't know what you're.
	Can you arrive at the point here?
	Like, make an actual argument.
	I don't know.
	Can I say something?
	Sure.
	I think that the counter burden to what you're talking about is like the dangers of actually dating and going with some guy you don't know, like you don't know their intentions.
	And I mean, I've had really bad experiences with going on dinner dates where it didn't actually end in dinner.
	So it's definitely a burden.
	Okay, so we can talk about these.
	I mean, I'm talking about like normal psychology here.
	Like, I'm not talking about, yeah, okay, there's a fear that women have of being assaulted.
	But let's talk about, like, let's say the girl's normal, the guy's normal.
	Who has the burden there?
	I would say.
	Like, healthy dynamics.
	We can talk about like abnormal psychology and people who are fucked up and people who would be inclined to victimize to you.
	Let's talk about just anotherwise healthy first date.
	Definitely, it's more on the man, I would say.
	Because the women, I feel, at least in my experience, and there have been exceptions to this, but overall, I don't really have to do anything besides just kind of existing and being basically polite and friendly.
	And the guy just, he's the one who has to kind of convince me to sleep with him.
	Yes, exactly.
	He does get to decide whether or not we are in a committed relationship for sure.
	But I actually have a fair amount of control over where that goes if the man is truly interested in me in my experience.
	I mean, you guys could be very much right.
	I mainly just disagreed with the phrasing of it as being a burden.
	But I can understand why it would be considered a burden for men to go through all those lengths and then nothing else.
	Well, hang on.
	In this case, in this context, when he's saying burden, he's not saying burden is in burdensome necessarily, but what the obligation or social obligation of.
	That's what kind of that means in that context of burden.
	Who has the burden to pay for the date doesn't necessarily mean that it's burdensome that a man pays for the date, but we're just asking, who do you think has kind of the obligation?
	That's what that means in that context.
	Okay.
	Honestly, I think that's something that should be on the rise to change, especially with all women talking about, oh, I want equality and this and that.
	Well, if you want equality, then pay for half the goddamn date.
	Put your card out on the table when it's time to pay instead of go to the bathroom.
	Like most women do.
	In my experience with dating, I've been considered a modern woman.
	I don't necessarily expect the guy to pay for the date.
	And dates that I've been on, I've paid for myself before.
	But most recently, I say it was a traditional experience where I went out with a guy and he paid for everything.
	And he didn't expect me to.
	Question, how many times have you had that experience?
	Once.
	Okay.
	Any women here, like, have any women here been on more than one date where the guy took care of everything?
	Yes.
	What do you guys think is more common?
	The man taking care of everything or the woman taking care of everything?
	The man.
	I've never been on a date with a girl where I ever could have gone in with the expectation that she was going to pay for the whole thing.
	Has never happened in my entire life.
	Never.
	It's either split or I pay.
	That's it.
	The way I've dated in the past before I was married was: if I invite the guy out, then I'm going to expect to pay.
	Because I invited him.
	I extended the invitation.
	So if I say, hey, let's go to a movie or let me take you out to dinner, then I'm going to pay.
	Why?
	Because I invited him out.
	Because I want to.
	I'm not saying that, you know, if he decides, oh, no, no, let me pay or let me pay for half.
	Yeah, I'm going to let him because he's taking the initiative to want to do more.
	But that doesn't necessarily mean that everything's always on the guy.
	And I think that's the narrative that should change, is that it shouldn't always be on the guy because guys shouldn't necessarily have to be burdened with all of it.
	He's just saying, as of right now, the burden is typically.
	No, for sure.
	I know, I agree with him.
	And burden doesn't even, like he was saying, it's just, it just translates to responsibility.
	Well, yeah, but I don't think even in my experience, and this is a very unique experience, the burden of conversation is necessarily on the guy, meaning I have to engage intellectually with him, bring up topics of conversation, keep things interesting and not just, you know, like kind of.
	If I did what most women do on the first date, there would be fucking dead silence on the first.
	Like, I'm telling you, women are not prepared to carry the conversation on the first date.
	What kind of women are you dating?
	Some women are.
	Some women are good conversations.
	Someone women are not aware of this.
	However, like, if I were to, like, if I were to just be silent and kind of like wait to see what the woman does, it would be really fucking awkward conversationally.
	It would be really awkward.
	Here, let's play it.
	Let's play that.
	We're on a date.
	Okay.
	I'm going to be a chick.
	Okay.
	Go.
	Okay.
	What do you do for work?
	Podcaster.
	Oh, interesting.
	So how long have you been doing that for?
	Two years.
	Two years.
	And have you ever considered any career changes?
	Nope.
	I like what I do.
	You like what you do?
	I like what I do too.
	Who are these girls, Brian?
	Who are these girls who hurt you like that?
	Tell me you've never had a conversation like this with a guy.
	I typically.
	Yeah, the first thing that we talk about should not be like what we do for work, to be honest.
	Well, that's LA.
	If you're in LA, that's why my days diagnosed missionary.
	I'm not trying to do that about sexual interest in personality.
	Well, I mean, that takes work, though.
	That takes emotional labor.
	I thought we were still having a conversation.
	You weren't interested.
	You weren't interested in my conversation.
	So you said that when you were 17, you made a Tinder to gain experience with guys because you didn't get any attention from guys in school.
	In high school.
	Yeah.
	You guessed you weren't their type, even though I went to school with like 7,000 kids?
	I went, yeah, so I never got approached by a guy in high school.
	No, well, I'm more focused on the Tinder at 17.
	Well, I mean, isn't that against the rules or that?
	It is against the rules.
	And it's dangerous.
	And it's dangerous, but I did it anyway.
	No kidding.
	You're putting lots of men at risk.
	Yeah, I mean.
	In some states, it's the legal age.
	Like, I know in Louisiana, you can be 17, but still, I've always been in California.
	Anyways, disavow that, but you said you believe that you kind of ruined your youthful experience by forcing yourself to experiment.
	I think you've always been hypersexual, and the fact that I didn't get attention in school made you act out and seek male validation online.
	Yes.
	I think that me not experiencing an organic relationship with a guy in my youth really informed my relationships with men going into my 20s because I didn't really have any male friends.
	I didn't have any males that were seeking my attention.
	And if they were, they weren't making it obvious that they were seeking my attention.
	So I, and I, I'm not going to talk about it because it's TOS, but I've been hypersexual from a fairly young age.
	Like I've, I've known what porn was for a very long time.
	And so I knew exactly the ways around like the body.
	And I was very curious to moving on.
	You said that your main contention with age gap relationships is that the value of both men and women diminish in society as they age and people of similar value should be together.
	People that are older cannot sustain themselves as long as the youth can.
	Yeah.
	So do you object to age gap relationships?
	Yes, for the most part.
	Okay, so is anybody here in an age gap relationship?
	Me.
	What's your what's your relation?
	Nine years.
	I'm older.
	Oh, you're older.
	And you're, so you're 45 and he's 34?
	35, 36, 35, 36, 30.
	And then what about you?
	Yeah, everyone I've dated, except the last guy I gave a chance has been seven plus years older.
	My husband's 41.
	Okay.
	So Andrew's probably keen to weigh in on this, but what are your, I guess, your actual objections to age gap relationships?
	I express that the value that you're going to put in a relationship as you get older is going to change.
	It's going to be less or more.
	I think it's less.
	We've also, as you get older.
	Isn't it way better?
	In the eye of the beholder, because I love some older men.
	Let me tell you.
	I like some younger people.
	Well, one of the complaints I hear from younger women, like women who are in college 18, 19, 20, 21, is they say, these men don't want commitment.
	They just want to fuck.
	They're fuckboys.
	It seems to me that younger men tend to lean towards not being a little bit more opposed to commitment than men who are a bit older.
	I would disagree.
	I think that younger men are probably less likely to say that they want a relationship with a girl because they have nerves about them.
	I don't know.
	I don't know why men or why people think that younger men don't want relationships with women.
	I think it's based on topics like we talked about, promiscuity.
	So we're in a culture where promiscuity is on the rise and your intentions with somebody may be askew.
	So I, in my encounters with men that I've had, they're very much open to relationships.
	It's just a matter of position and place and the person that they're looking for and not necessarily.
	Didn't you say you've been single your whole life?
	Yes.
	Well, I mean, if you're meeting all these men that are open to having relationships, what has precluded you from having a relationship?
	I'm not meeting a bunch of men that are interested in me necessarily.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Well, let's bring it back to age gap, though.
	So I'm still, can you explain a little better kind of your objections there?
	Sorry.
	Yeah, other than it just being icky, which.
	But why is it icky?
	Yeah, why is it icky?
	Why is it icky?
	Because of legal consenting age.
	Right.
	I didn't meet my husband when he was in high school.
	I met him when he was a grown man.
	I think.
	Does it give you the ick?
	It gives you the ick.
	It gives me the ick.
	It gives you the ick, doesn't it?
	Because I've always experienced the world where people of a similar age have a similar outlook on life.
	And once you cross a certain boundary threshold, that changes.
	And it could lead to people being taken advantage of.
	Even if they're leading the menu, these young women are taking advantage of these resources.
	They're fleecing them for money.
	You're right.
	These young women are predatory.
	Who's taking advantage?
	Well, in my instance, for example, who's taking advantage of who then?
	Am I taking advantage of my husband because he's younger or is he taking advantage of me because I'm older?
	It could be a situation of both of you taking advantage of each other.
	How?
	How is that?
	What do you mean?
	How does that work?
	He's taking advantage of the fact that you're older and you probably have less options.
	Advantage isn't bad.
	What do you mean I have less sex?
	First of all, wait, wait, wait, first of all.
	There are less options for a potential mate.
	That's not true at all because I'm a fucking, I'm a grab, okay?
	That's first and foremost.
	Secondly, just because I'm nine years older than my husband does not mean that I have less options.
	If him and I broke up tomorrow or if he died tomorrow, trust me, I'm going to be riding some dick eventually in a week or two.
	Okay, but it's a matter of...
	I'm just basing facts.
	Facts are facts.
	Okay, so do you think that you would find a man of similar value to him at your age?
	Absolutely.
	Someone that is your age.
	I don't date men my age.
	Why not?
	Because I date men that are younger than me for a particular reason.
	Why?
	Because they can keep up with me.
	I'm not taking advantage of the age.
	That's your advantage.
	That is one of older women.
	Older men cannot keep up with someone like me.
	I'm a hyper bitch.
	So if you can't keep up, then I have no use for you.
	So there's no advantage being taken, especially if I'm older, you would think that I would be taking advantage of him, right?
	Well, it's an advantage.
	I mean, I don't think taking advantage is necessarily.
	Right.
	I'm not forcing him to have sex with me.
	He wants to have sex with me.
	There's no taking advantage of it.
	I'm not holding my husband by the head.
	It's advancing for you because he's younger and you get the sex you want because you're crazy in the bed.
	So it's advantage, and it's not bad.
	Right.
	It's not a bad advantage.
	I wasn't carrying his books home for him at school when he was 17.
	I wasn't saying that shit.
	I was just saying.
	I'm in favor of older men, obviously.
	But playing devil's advocate, it can be the case that predatory people pick younger people because they're easier to manipulate and they are naive and they're easier to mold and control.
	That is absolutely a thing.
	But I don't think you can say that that's just broadly every dynamic like that.
	And it's not.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Do you have a study for that?
	Do you?
	I have an example, though.
	You made the claim.
	Okay, so let me pull a young.
	Hang on, you just said I don't think that that's generally what's going on.
	I don't think it's going to be.
	And do you have any empirical evidence to back that up at all?
	She just said she doesn't want to make generalizations because not every relationship.
	She literally said, I mean, you don't need to.
	Generally, that's what's going on.
	No, no, no, I don't think generally that's what's going on.
	Right.
	Do you have any empirical evidence whatsoever to support that?
	Okay.
	You generally don't want to.
	You want me to write you a thesis and come back and tell you.
	I'm not asking for a thesis.
	I'm asking.
	There's a reason I'm asking this because earlier you jumped all over Brian and said that.
	Hey, is there?
	Hang on.
	Let me finish.
	Sorry, sir.
	You jumped all over Brian and you were all kinds of upset with him because he was not demonstrating empirical evidence to go with a generalized statement.
	And yet here, hang on, you made a claim and you said generally, I don't think that's what's going on.
	And you also have no empirical evidence whatsoever to back that claim up, correct?
	I think it's actually backwards.
	I think y'all were the ones that got upset and like muted me.
	I was like happy to debate it.
	I wasn't upset at all.
	Like I like to debate and further my understanding of things by hearing opposite sides.
	So I'm not upset just because we may not come to the same conclusion.
	But you wanted to prepare.
	Now with any topic, am I going to just have like the best debate thing prepared?
	Like no.
	There's some things that if it's being presented to you for the first time, you should mull it over.
	Talking generalities, right?
	Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to.
	And that's okay to do, right?
	And so sometimes.
	So maybe asking for empirics, if you're not prepared to have my studies ready in a moment's notice, if it's okay for you to do, then it's okay for us to do that.
	Well, sure.
	Does that sound fair?
	Yeah, but sometimes things are like common sense.
	And I'm just saying I don't think that's.
	But that's what he was saying.
	I just genuinely don't think that's the case, but I admit that it's my anecdotal experiences.
	Sure.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I'm just saying that what's good for the goose, good for the gander, right?
	No, I feel like trying to track us for a while.
	I think there are studies empirical evidence.
	Just remember that you often speak in generalities without having any either.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah, sure.
	But if I had like a Jamie, I'm sure he could pull up, like, there's got to be studies on the rules.
	Yeah, no, I know what I'm saying.
	Generally speaking.
	Generally speaking.
	Yeah, generally.
	Do you have a study for if you generally had a Jamie that you would pull up the record?
	Oh my God.
	So anyway, back to that.
	When you're talking about the ick.
	The ick.
	It gives you the ick.
	Me?
	Are you talking to me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, the ick.
	It gives you the ick.
	Gives her the ick.
	You wouldn't say, though, that it's an immoral thing, right?
	It's not actually immoral.
	I oh, shit.
	I think it isn't immoral because it's legal.
	And it's, there's no, I haven't, I don't think I can make a justification for why.
	Why is it icky?
	Why do you find it icky?
	What about it is ick?
	What about me having sex with a guy who's 36 and I'm 45?
	What does that?
	What's the if factor there?
	Do you want me to be like No Hold's bar?
	Do it.
	Yeah, let's go.
	Find out.
	Let's go.
	I think it just points to a desperation in both parties for a sense of except you've been you've been single your entire life.
	What?
	And I've been married for 10 years to the same guy.
	We'll continue.
	And start getting angry with one another.
	I'm making a point.
	She's been single her whole life.
	So, with what experience and what wherewithal knowledge do you have on this topic?
	She's an absurd person.
	Well, okay, but earlier we were talking about OnlyFans, and you don't have OnlyFans, right?
	But you can still have an opinion on it.
	So you don't always have to have firsthand experience.
	Y'all be nice.
	Be nice.
	I don't know.
	I just, like, is that not a valid enough reason?
	I see your point.
	I mean, you can imagine from a, if you were to say, take a conservative Christian, for instance, and you were to lay all of his moral intuitions on things that gave him the ick and called that moral, that that would lead to all sorts of things being immoral.
	You probably wouldn't get that.
	The round meatball donated $200.
	Guys who date older women have mommy issues and are overall weird.
	Men generally age like wine, and women generally age like bananas.
	Age gap is perfectly normal when Guy is older.
	I would love to see a picture of you, Mr. Meatball.
	Mr. Meatball, send the picture.
	She wants to have carnal knowledge with you.
	She wants you romantically and sexually, Mr. Meatball, but she needs a photo first.
	Also, not to mention, women of melanated color do not age like bananas.
	Thank you very much.
	That is true.
	It is true.
	Why women age like bananas?
	Banana and J-Lo.
	You're not ugly.
	You're just poor.
	No, well, no, now we've seen Kylie Jenner.
	Hold on.
	More like plantains?
	I mean, plantain.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Like, is it not bananas, but plantains?
	No.
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Right.
	Like, for example, Maddie's Asian.
	I'm Hispanic and black.
	We don't age the same.
	We don't age the same.
	Oh, my God.
	No, that's true.
	There are studies on that.
	That melanin does make you age better.
	That is a real thing.
	How about this?
	Oh, I just made this shit up.
	White don't blight.
	What does that mean?
	You don't know what blights are.
	What is it?
	White don't blight.
	Hold on, let me Google this shit just to make sure.
	No, that would be correct.
	The blight, yeah.
	Like, you're talking about blight, like potato blights and shit like that.
	A thing that spoils or damages.
	Yeah.
	So we're all spoiled if we're blight.
	Oh my god.
	No, that's not what I'm saying.
	He was trying to make a joke.
	Oh, okay.
	Sorry.
	Why go blight?
	It's hard to tell sometimes when.
	I got the joke.
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm going to move things on a little bit here.
	Going to Corinne.
	Sir.
	You said I can personally guarantee that you haven't had any women like me on your show.
	I have no problem in laying into people, especially if they're just morons that need to be taken down a peg or two.
	That's true.
	I know I have some invaluable dating advice, and I'll lead with this one.
	Never believe your parents or the advice they give you about sex or dating.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	What?
	That's wild.
	Yeah, because, I mean, let's go back to back in the day.
	And I'm talking about before the internet.
	I mean, I grew up without the internet.
	I grew up without any GPS or anything like that.
	So, of course, your parents are trying to protect you and tell you certain things about dating and tell you who and what not to date.
	Because back in the day, for sure, they're trying to keep you, like, for example.
	Straight and narrow.
	Yeah, well, not even straight and narrow.
	Like, culturally.
	A lot of cultures will be like, date within your own culture.
	I'm not dating Spanish men because there's some, I could be related to one of them.
	I'm not trying to do that.
	But further.
	There's no likelihood of that happening, though.
	I mean, it's happened.
	It's happened.
	If you're from a small island, it's happened.
	You've dated a cousin.
	I haven't.
	But, you know, if you're coming from a place like Haiti, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, there's been a chance that you dated someone that you're somewhat related to.
	It's happened.
	It's going to happen.
	You know, if you're only staying within your culture and your culture is literally an island this big, the chances of you dating a fourth or third cousin is probably happening.
	Okay, but how does that apply to parental advice for because your parents are going to guide you to do things moralistically as far as like church values, things like that?
	You know, if you grow up religious, your parents are going to tell you not to have sex before marriage.
	Now, I don't think that's good.
	I'd like to know what I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I marry.
	Like, I'm not like, I made this point earlier today with the girls was you test out the product before you buy it.
	No, my grandmother literally taught us.
	You try the milk before you buy the cow.
	So I don't know who y'all's parents are.
	Maybe it's like a Louisiana thing and they are crazy in Louisiana.
	For the most part, a lot of the people that I've known.
	Yeah, but that's advice towards men.
	They're not supposed to give that advice to women.
	The advice is supposed to be for men.
	You go and you test out the cow before you buy the cow.
	Cow is female.
	Okay, don't buy the cow.
	She said, go test out the bull.
	She didn't say go test out the bull.
	No, no, she actually.
	No, she had this thing hanging in.
	It said both things.
	It said, don't buy the pig before you test the sausage.
	Two.
	Swear to God.
	It said both things.
	I swear to God.
	I need to know what kind of sausage I'm getting before I buy it.
	Before I buy it.
	Grandma crazy.
	The whole family.
	My mom used to tell me, if you're ever going to smoke weed, just come to me instead.
	I don't want you smoking cigarettes.
	I'm like, damn, dude.
	That's crazy.
	If I was talking to a guy for like three years and then we got married and then we and then we waited to have sex and he couldn't please me, then I would honestly probably end up in a divorce because what?
	What if he was like good to you in every other way, though?
	But if you couldn't please me sexually, that's a huge factor.
	Like sex is a huge factor.
	My grandmother told me, if you want to keep a white guy, cup his balls while you're sucking his dick.
	That's what she said.
	Oh my God.
	My most recent.
	That is no lie, actually.
	I just ran into that.
	That's what grandma said.
	Grandma said.
	I want to know the stats of how many men have affairs on their wives that they married virgins.
	It's actually quite low.
	So your chance of divorce drastically go down if you get married as a virgin male and a virgin female.
	Your chances of stepping outside your marriage go drastically down as well.
	Yeah, that is.
	A problem anybody at this table is ever going to have, but it is, you know, for it.
	That is what the stats show.
	Okay.
	Well.
	So, what is wrong, though, with like parents trying to guide their children in the right direction?
	Sometimes parents can guide you in the wrong direction.
	For example, if you grow up in a super religious home and you're taught as a man not to masturbate because masturbating is bad or that you know self-love or self-care is bad, that guy is not going to really know what the fuck he's doing later on in life when he's trying to get involved in a relationship sexually.
	I think people figure it out.
	Yeah, but I mean, that's the point.
	The whole point is to attempt to keep a person chaste in order to keep their virtue intact.
	So, I mean, like, from your perspective, I understand what you're saying.
	You're saying, look, for me, I want sexual liberation and this type of thing.
	But I mean, for most parents, they're going to want to try to keep you away from a bad crowd.
	They're going to try to keep your virtues intact, your reputation intact, because that doesn't actually matter in life.
	It is part of success in life, is virtue.
	And that is a thing that used to be part of that whole culture you're talking about pre-internet.
	Same culture I grew up in.
	And virtues did matter.
	And you know what?
	Here's the thing: everyone knew who the skanks were in high school, and we didn't treat them that great.
	That's just the truth.
	We didn't treat them that great.
	And yeah, they didn't have it great.
	Just saying.
	So I understand why parents would lean towards trying to keep those virtues intact for both their sons and their daughters.
	It makes a lot of sense.
	I mean, I'm of the opinion, and my dad convinced me of this just getting older, that the word of your parents is like the word of God.
	And unless they touch you, then what?
	Okay, well, we can't get into that.
	We're not going to get into that on the podcast on YouTube.
	I just don't like the derogatory words that are used for women that have sex because there's women like myself that have been through horrible sexual experiences, and that's going to make you act in a way when you're a child and you don't know any better in a way that people could label you, but that doesn't define you as a whole person just because you like it.
	Yeah, well, let's grant it for a second and say, yes, that's correct.
	There could be women who have emotional issues due to some type of horrific experiences that they have in their childhood.
	There's plenty of women who have no horrific experiences early in their childhood and are often also promiscuous.
	Why can't those labels be used towards those women?
	I just feel like using like, oh, those women weren't treated well as an excuse to, like, it's just for horror behavior.
	I don't think that's fair to treat some, like, because what about the men that are whoring around?
	How did those men get treated?
	Yeah, but that's how what about the menu?
	They didn't probably make it called.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	So just stop for a second.
	You're making a typical what about the meno argument.
	So let's start.
	Let's start first, not what about the meno.
	Why is everybody not mad at the men?
	Let's start with the first claim, which I don't like the fact that society will use, and by the way, women do this to women far more than men do.
	Boy, the first derogatory thing a woman does to another woman is call her.
	Yeah, that's the first thing that they do.
	That's what they do.
	I mean, so maybe that's what they're doing.
	So the thing is, hang on, hang on.
	So the thing is, is like, yes, these things, the reason that these terms are used, you could say strumpet, lady of the night, right?
	Whatever you want to say, they're pointing out, not doesn't have virtue.
	That's what they're pointing out.
	Not virtuous.
	And it's a really easy way to use a word to just go, no virtue.
	That's why it's used that way.
	You stumped her.
	Do you have a response?
	Andrew, do you hold the same views towards, like, do you find men who have, like, high body counts less desirable or, like, they have less value?
	Do you view it the same way?
	Well, so, so, like, so look, so let's dive into this.
	So, there's a little bit of nuance here.
	I think what you're asking me is: do I think that men who are promiscuous also have lower virtue?
	My answer is yes.
	I think that they have lower virtue as well, but not less value in the dating market.
	It seems that women don't have the same preferences that men do when it comes to a higher body count.
	They don't seem to care as much about it.
	In fact, they often seem to want to compete for men who have higher body counts because they have women all over them, and that's what they're competing over.
	So, women don't have to compete for hierarchy, but they do have to compete with each other to grab somebody inside of a hierarchy.
	So, that's been general human conditioning.
	So, women are always competing with each other.
	So, if women see other women gravitating towards a single man, they tend to compete more for that man.
	So, it doesn't actually lower their value in the dating marketplace, but I think it lowers their value as far as virtue goes.
	I was just curious your stance on it in general.
	But also, women will compete for married men, too.
	They see a ring on a man's finger.
	Yes, exactly.
	But that's the same thing you're talking about.
	You're saying they're competing with a man who another woman desires, and that makes them gravitate towards that man.
	The same thing happens with women when they're going after single men.
	If they see that he gets a lot of female attention, they tend to gravitate more towards him.
	Why do you think women are always out with these ugly ass fucking rock stars?
	They're always at because they're super desired by other women, right?
	Even though they're ugly as sin, you know, like Mick Jagger's not a good-looking guy, but he's not, he's not having trouble.
	Stephen Tyler, ugly as sin, Steven Tyler is one of the ugliest men I've probably ever seen.
	He looks more like a woman than most women I know, yeah.
	But he's not having trouble picking up chicks, dude.
	Flavor flicks.
	I just think that's because they have money.
	But I bet if they were ugly and didn't have money, then they probably wouldn't be able to get chicks.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah, well, I agree.
	Maybe the money is not a problem.
	Whether the woman's gravitating towards him because he has money or they're gravitating towards him because he's really good-looking, it doesn't matter.
	The fact that they're gravitating towards him does not seem to be a deterrent from other women.
	It's a deterrent to me.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm sure to some women.
	But generally speaking, yeah, no, I got you.
	Yeah, just in generalities, yeah.
	Wow, good time to return.
	What did I miss?
	Anything interesting?
	I don't know.
	Not really.
	Going back to you, you said you're 45, but you look 33 without a bucket of makeup.
	Yeah, like when I know that's what you were on.
	You said you're married, but not legally, because that's stupid.
	Yep.
	Yeah, you did say you were married for 10 years, but not legally married.
	So within the church?
	We went to the little chapel in Vegas.
	So we just got married for us just to kind of re-solidify our relationship and commitment to each other.
	And the reason why we didn't do it legally is because I don't need the government tracking our every move.
	And I'd rather be independent with my own money.
	He has his money.
	If anything were to go sour south between the two of us, he can go his way.
	I can go my way.
	We live in California, where it's divided 50-50.
	My ambitions and pursuits with my career could catapult me to be a multi-millionaire.
	And then he's a musician, and the same thing goes for him.
	So why muck up our money together if especially nothing is forever, nothing is for certain?
	So I'd rather, you know, him protect his assets, I protect mine.
	Yes.
	Now, you said that you're also a recovering sex addict with a high body count.
	And you said you didn't give us an exact number, but you said it was three digits.
	Is that correct?
	Okay.
	You said you were dating strange men long before social media existed.
	This is true.
	You never knew if you wouldn't make it home from a date.
	This is true.
	And it was thrilling.
	It was.
	It was.
	It was a thrilling time.
	I mean, look, as someone who was a sex addict, I was involved in a lot of reckless and very high endangerment situations because of where I came from.
	I suffered through a lot of childhood trauma, things that were categorically unconceivable for most people.
	I lost both my parents before I finished high school.
	I've been on my own since I was 16, been through it all.
	And with that being said, when you get yourself involved, I was never into like alcohol.
	I've never been into drugs.
	None of those things were my vices.
	Gambling, nothing.
	Let me back up just a second in your story because you were on your own since you were 16.
	Sorry to hear that, by the way.
	That's got to suck.
	Thanks.
	You were saying earlier that you think that kids should dismiss their parents' advice.
	But if your parents weren't in your life when you were that young, wouldn't you have preferred to have had them around to get their advice?
	No, because my parents were both reckless people.
	My mother didn't give us any kind of structure.
	She didn't give us any kind of rules.
	If I was going based off of her actions and things that she was doing, then I would have just ended up just like her.
	Yeah, sure.
	But I mean, surely you understand that most parents don't do that.
	They love their children.
	They definitely don't let them move out of the house when they're 16 years old and do all this, right?
	I mean, yeah, in a perfect world, you're absolutely right, but when— I mean, that's most people.
	Most people's parents, I think, genuinely care about them.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	You don't think so?
	That's not been my personal experience.
	So I can't say for everybody else.
	I know a lot of other people who've had similar experiences to mine where their parents weren't necessarily giving them structure and rules and kind of guidelines in life.
	So everyone's journey is different.
	Yeah, I mean, I agree with that.
	And I was being a little bit more sarcastic, not necessarily, you know, but if you're if you're raised in a two-parent household, generally speaking, the outcomes are the things that you might consider good outcomes, like more education, more stability, you know, less promiscuity, things like this.
	Those are generally considered to be decent outcomes, I would say.
	And they tend to go up astronomically if you have two parents in the household for the entirety of the child being in the household.
	So, I mean, it seems like that's an optimal way to go, right?
	I would say it's also nurture versus nature because your environment and where you live and where you grow up also have a huge impact on that.
	I've found in my personal experience that a lot of people from like bigger cities and like New York, I'm from New York originally.
	People more in the city are going to have a completely different type of lifestyle than someone who grows up in Montana or Colorado even.
	I feel like more of the core like traditional values are still in the Midwest.
	People attribute a lot more of that in the middle.
	I think there's a lot more lawlessness.
	Even in those liberal progressive cities, having a two-parent household still is going to lead to what are generally considered good outcomes for children.
	I didn't have the benefit of having that.
	I mean, I always grew up in a one-party house.
	Yeah, I understand you didn't, but why would you prescribe to others not to listen to their parents if their outcomes seem to be fucking you?
	I was fucking around.
	I mean, I'm a comedian.
	I'm a stand-up comment.
	Okay, so you said you were a sex addict.
	I'd like to get a single-why women shouldn't be comedians.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm joking.
	I like you, Andrew.
	You're all right, my friend.
	I'm a likable guy.
	So you said you were a sex addict.
	I'd like a little more scope on that.
	So what does that look like for you?
	A sex addict was someone who was reckless in promiscuity.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I sleep with the first person who was into me.
	If I was into them, obviously.
	Like, I had my choice in who I wanted to sleep with or to even engage in any kind of sexual activity because body count doesn't necessarily mean penetration for all of them, obviously.
	But with that being said, I would use sex as my coping mechanism.
	If I was sad, if I was depressed, if I was angry, if I was happy, sex was my go-to thing to release that, to heighten that.
	Like, if I had a good show or something, I'm going to go fuck somebody because it was a good show.
	If I was depressed about a show, I'd go fuck somebody to make myself feel better.
	That's what that looks like.
	So, let's say in a day, what's the most amount of people you had sex with in a day?
	That's a dirty, that's a dirty, dirty question.
	I don't know, a couple, maybe two, three in a day.
	What about in like a week?
	What's the most in a week?
	Ooh.
	Man, I don't know if I remember that.
	This was way back in like 2002, 2003.
	Give us a range.
	In a week, I don't know.
	Could be anywhere between five and ten in a week.
	Five and ten.
	Okay.
	What about in a month?
	Well, if we're taking the most in a month.
	The most in a month, maybe 15.
	Okay.
	In a month.
	All right.
	I was just trying to get a scope or sense of the extent of the sex addiction.
	You said that if you're a woman under the age of 33, chances are you will think I'm a monster.
	I can't stand the hypocrisy to find a lot of women under the age 25.
	They want the world on a silver platter, but bring absolutely nothing to the table.
	Ask any woman under 25 what she wants in life or from a man, and you will find yourself a silent woman.
	Your words.
	Yeah, absolutely my words.
	And I stand right by them because if you ask a lot of women under the age of 20, what do you want out of life?
	They're going to be deer in headlights.
	And I'm no different.
	I was the same.
	I didn't know.
	I didn't know what I wanted out of life.
	I didn't know what I wanted out of a life partner.
	I didn't know what I wanted out of my career.
	I was unsure of these things because I wasn't fully developed.
	Most of us are not fully developed until after 25, 26.
	We haven't figured shit out yet.
	You said that you're tired of women who have a victim mentality and white women tears.
	Yes.
	What do you mean by white women tears?
	White women tears, the only reason why I use that is because that's synonymous with what the verbiage online and what young people are using.
	White women tears being women who victimize themselves over nothing.
	Example, the girl who cried, that's white women tears.
	She's sitting there crying because you asked her a fucking question.
	You asked her a simple question.
	Define misogyny.
	And she was just like, like she was attacked.
	The main victim.
	Yeah, she acted.
	She straight up acted like Ryan sexually assaulted her.
	It's how you said it.
	That's what matters.
	Sorry, repeat that.
	I said, she acted as if you sexually assaulted her.
	That's the look and the fear in her eyes in that 10-second clip that I watched.
	That's the look that she, if you had given her the opportunity to go to the cops to report, yeah, she probably would have.
	You know, and said, he made me feel unsafe.
	I didn't feel safe around him because he asked me a question.
	Speaking of this, I've actually never revealed this on the show.
	You should have seen the text messages she sent me afterwards.
	Oh, I want to.
	Do you mean DMs?
	Why did you give her your number?
	Oh, I mean, it was like, you know, the messages like we do through Instagram.
	Got it.
	Yeah, no, she sent messages after the show.
	Like, Nick, actually, I think I showed them to Nick.
	I showed them to Maddie.
	And they seem ridiculous.
	Did they sound like this?
	You attacked me.
	You made me feel uncomfortable and you humiliated me and you made me feel like I wasn't important.
	And in my opinion, it doesn't matter.
	Yes.
	You're right.
	Those are usually my DMs.
	Not Brian.
	Those are not my DMs.
	But yeah, she was.
	great yeah she i'm trying to she wanted us to take the video down but then she also demanded Well, okay.
	That's white women do.
	So, anyways, you said you're completely against marriage before 30 and procreation in general.
	I'm sure Andrew has some thoughts on this, although, just for the sake of time, we can't linger too long.
	So, you're against marriage before 30.
	Right.
	And you're against procreation, so having kids.
	I am.
	And I would say that's more that opinion is more reserved for this generation, for the new generation, or like, you know, the Zillennials or whatever you want to call it.
	gen z um and the only reason why i say that is because are you okay I'm okay.
	You okay?
	Got like Tanya Harding.
	Okay.
	I'm good.
	All right.
	You okay?
	You sure?
	Yeah, thank you.
	I don't like where we're headed as a society with all this, like the best word I can use is the snowflake mentality.
	Like, comedy is gone.
	You know, we can't be funny anymore.
	Comedians have a hard time being able to get up on stage and make fun of shit that everyone can relate to without the fear of being canceled.
	Resorted to those deprecation jokes because you're only allowed to talk about yourself.
	But don't you think that a lot of that is because female comedians only know how to talk about their vagina and that's it?
	I mean, I do have a problem with that, but I'm not one of them.
	I mean, that's like 99% of female comedians.
	All they do is on stage and talk about their vagina.
	No, it's fair.
	They're pretty bad.
	They're pretty not funny.
	They're not consumer, and they pretty much talk exclusively about their vagina.
	It's very, very odd.
	It's a very odd phenomenon.
	I actually didn't believe that until I went through Netflix and started watching female comedians.
	I was like, really?
	That's all they talk about?
	All right.
	Well, you haven't heard any of my stuff.
	So, you know, to be fair.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
	But I mean, yeah, you're not wrong.
	There are a lot of women who get up on stage and all they talk about is sex and, you know, how they get men to fuck them and whatnot.
	It's because that's all they can relate to.
	That's how a lot of them are relating to as far as what they think is funny or what they find.
	Yeah, but they also me too the entire comedy industry.
	What's that?
	All these female comics went through and me too'd the entire industry.
	They me too'd everybody.
	Comedians say something.
	How in the hell did Louis D.K. get canceled?
	They did.
	They went through and me too'd the whole comic.
	He quite literally.
	There was a bunch of female comics who were going around going, oh, I was actually harassed by this guy and this dude jerked off in front of me after I consented, but blah, Right.
	After I consented.
	That's the shit.
	That's the shit that bothers me.
	And that goes back to what I was talking about, the victim mentality.
	How are you?
	So women ruin comedy is what I'm saying.
	They ruined it.
	They're the tone policers.
	They're the ones who get offended.
	They're the ones who are always whining about everything.
	They're always crying.
	It's only the women that complain.
	They can't take a joke.
	Nothing's ever funny.
	Everyone's always a victim.
	Oh, yeah.
	Thank you.
	That broad statement of saying men do this and women do that.
	It's just like diversity.
	I love Bill Burke.
	That's funny.
	Yeah, diversity.
	See what I mean?
	That's the whole point, right?
	The whole point of why it is that women get so offended.
	You can even have a conversation about general topics.
	No, it's about diversity.
	It's about inclusion.
	It's about us being friends and holding fucking hands and saying kumbaya.
	It's not about any of that shit.
	Jokes are supposed to be funny because they're a reflection of the truth of reality of society.
	That's what makes them hilarious.
	Women destroyed all of that.
	They destroyed it.
	Sick of the time I was move things on.
	Going to my notes here for Bobby.
	You okay, you've been doing OF for four years, part-time cam, girl, gaming streamer for two, former traveling stripper from when you were 18 to 2020.
	You are in an open relationship now for three years.
	On Twitter, you claim to be married.
	Well, you see, I'm like you, where I don't want to get legally married, but in my heart, I'm married.
	And like, that's just me.
	I don't want, like, because I'm not religious and I'm also not into the government being in my shit.
	Like, you know.
	So I say I'm married because I have so much faith in my relationship and I think that it will last forever.
	So I might as well just go ahead and start saying that he's my husband.
	Is it a common law marriage?
	Well, we've only, we lived together.
	We moved in immediately.
	And things have been good.
	Like, we literally hardly ever have any kind of fights.
	And when we do, we have good conversations.
	Well, how long are you?
	Let me try again.
	It's a different way.
	How long have you been with this guy?
	Only three years.
	That's what he said.
	So not common law, because I think that's seven.
	It depends on where you're at.
	I think it's different in every different state, so I have no idea.
	Yeah.
	You said that you don't identify.
	Actually, do we show the I don't think Andrew's here.
	He would very much, Andrew would very much like to know the status of the armpit hair.
	Oh, it's alive and well, but like it's it's not like I always have armpit hair.
	I do shave sometimes.
	Just like you know down there, I dream it differently.
	What can you show, Andrew?
	There's a little bit of toilet paper particles from me like wiping my sweat in the bathroom.
	Nice.
	And that's your thing.
	You have the, there's a couple photos on your Instagram.
	You got the armpit hair.
	I thought Andrew should know.
	I thought just so he has a better understanding of the dynamics going on here.
	There it is.
	So what's the dynamic?
	What is that armpit hair?
	Well, you know, like you got the armpit hair and the blue hair.
	We might, or purple hair, whatever color it is.
	You know, we might draw some conclusions.
	Perhaps you're one of the free bleeders.
	You know what I mean?
	There's kind of a stereotype that goes with the women who have the colored hair and orange hair that kind of raging feminist little.
	She absolutely loves her.
	She smells like patchouli.
	She loves patchouli.
	Don't you ever say that about me.
	I'm teasing you.
	Not since I was like 20, okay?
	But I used to love patchouli.
	Now you do say you don't identify as a feminist, you do believe, but you do believe in having equal rights.
	You have no real issue with patriarchy or more traditional roles.
	Men are supposed to lead and protect.
	What you dislike is misogyny, sexism, and the who is more oppressed or who is the victim pissing contest.
	It's comparing apples to oranges.
	Well, I'll play that game.
	Men are more oppressed than women, but I don't really feel inclined to go into it.
	But just throwing that out there.
	Anyways.
	It's an argument, but I will go into it if you want.
	Well, maybe later.
	Let me get through the notes.
	You have a really bad date experience for your first traditional dinner date.
	Oh, wait.
	You don't want to go there.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	You said you didn't want to go there in the notes, so we won't go there.
	You don't think gender roles and patriarchal relationships are for everyone?
	There's definitely more submissive and emotional men, more dominant, grounded women who are ideal for those men.
	Those households tend to be more matriarchal.
	It doesn't make it any less balanced.
	It's just different from what most people are used to.
	Take the parents from the Dancing for the Devil documentary.
	It's a new documentary about like the discussion.
	Yeah, I saw a little bit of that.
	The father is very emotional, not very dominant.
	Mother is very sharp and intense and dominant.
	But they seem very healthy and happy together and raised very intelligent, successful kids.
	Their kids are thriving.
	I mean, one of them might be in a cult, but like, a lot of people can be in a cult.
	And sometimes it's a fake cult because it gets them money.
	Like, I was in a fake cult before because it was financially beneficial to the community, but you were in a fake cult?
	I only watched the, yeah, I only watched the first episode of that, so I don't know.
	It made me think about it.
	But you were in a cult.
	A fake one.
	What does that mean?
	What's a fake cult?
	It's pretending to be a culture in Hawaii.
	I just flew out to Hawaii, started walking down the road.
	I had like no knowledge.
	And I come across a I come across like a hippie commune.
	Like a hippie commune, and they're like cool with nudity and stuff.
	I'm sorry.
	And the guy who owns it, his name's actually Jesus.
	It's not actually Jesus, it's Eugene.
	But we call him Jesus, and we had, you know, we kind of like put on a show for our people that come to like visit the commune and try to make it seem like super weird just because it's fun.
	And because it got to manipulate people to join?
	Yeah, like the Discovery Channel and shit came out and would check it out just because they thought it was a good idea.
	The Discovery channel came out to check out your LARPing cult.
	Yeah, we basically were LARPing as a cult.
	So after I mean, in your other notes, you said bowing is playful and kinky as long as the context is.
	But if there's a bad power dynamic and expectation that she's actually your property slave, no.
	So obviously you have some objections to my preference for wanting a woman to bow.
	Depends on the context.
	That's what I'm saying.
	What's the context?
	What's the context for you?
	Because.
	I don't know.
	I just, it's cool, I guess.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I would bow.
	And I mean, as long as it's like playful and kinky, like I said, I think it's fun.
	And I would say that's my frame for it.
	It's just a playful, endearing.
	It doesn't mean.
	Yeah, it doesn't mean that much.
	I don't think it means that much.
	What means more is how you treat her.
	And if you really do see her as like someone who's really below you, who's your slave or your property?
	Kind of like what your friend did to her.
	Both of us did it.
	Oh, both of you did it.
	It was Kimsu Dinghy asked us to.
	I only did it once.
	I was like once in a card, really, honestly.
	And so you made him do chores for you, work for you for free.
	I couldn't even get him to do that because I'm just not that dumb a person.
	And I couldn't even ask, he never paid me because I didn't ask for me.
	Can I tell them what you made him do?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Tell us.
	Do it.
	She walked him through the mall and made him drink his own cum out of a cup.
	Wait, in the mall?
	Yeah, I thought that was more fun than that.
	Hold on.
	Wait, that's fun?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	Let me actually make a criticism here.
	While you two were consenting to that, all the other people in the mall were not consenting.
	Yeah, they didn't know what it was.
	Yeah, but you walked him through the mall, so you're doing some like BDSM shit publicly.
	Those people are not.
	It's these people who do that dog shit, like the walking the dogs in public.
	There's a weird, like, the people in public are not consenting to that shit.
	Yeah.
	Let me clarify.
	I don't know.
	Actually, and I think the BDSM.
	I like men that I can't do.
	I think the BDSM community looks down on people that do that shit in public.
	Yeah, they do.
	Because it's not consent.
	Right, because these people in public don't want to see that shit.
	Let's reiterate that this was back when we were like eliminated children.
	I was like 18 children.
	I heard that right.
	You made a guy walk through a mall and drink his sperm.
	Yeah, and then I also made him try on some panties and then go to the checkout and buy his own panties.
	And just to be clear, you have an issue with me wanting a woman to bow.
	Yeah, wow.
	I don't have ethical slavery.
	Really, the problematic part.
	These girls.
	I agree.
	I totally agree.
	And it was dumb of me to do that.
	I literally only did it once.
	I did it a few times.
	That's fine.
	I murdered somebody once one time.
	No big deal.
	It was actually funny.
	We had that girl.
	You might have traumatized a bunch of children.
	You know that, right?
	Well, they didn't.
	Like, they really didn't see it.
	They didn't know.
	They didn't see a guy crawling on the floor.
	No, he wasn't like different.
	I was the one crawling in that other scenario, but that was a different person that I was with doing the leash thing.
	Different.
	Do you have any reason?
	Do you actually regret doing it to him?
	Do I regret doing it to him?
	I mean, I didn't necessarily like.
	It's not my kink, but I don't kink shame.
	I'll try most things once if it sounds interesting.
	And I was like, Wait, he wanted you to do that?
	Yes, he approached both of us with this proposition.
	For me, he cleaned my house in chastity and stuff.
	She made him, so they both were involved in essentially like this guy was a slave to them, basically.
	He'd be getting off to this.
	There was no, he loved it.
	Yeah.
	Like, he proposed the idea.
	Are you guys into like Cleveland steamers and stuff?
	What is that?
	Okay, let's see.
	Isn't that basically taking advantage of somebody who's clearly mentally ill?
	I mean, he's, I don't know.
	Was he mentally ill?
	I mean, he's coherent.
	He's basically talking about it.
	He's not kidding ourselves.
	I don't know.
	He's pretty normal, actually.
	I think he agrees with most of your takes.
	Really?
	Well, he believes in literature.
	No, he wouldn't agree with any of our takes.
	I promise you.
	I promise he does.
	No guy.
	Well, if he does, the thing is, is that he's LARPing.
	What's the real him?
	I think both things can be.
	The guy who agrees with Christian conservatism or the guy who walks through a mall drinking is only a moment.
	So he's not religious.
	Which is the real guy?
	He's not religious.
	He just holds a lot of, I guess, religious principles.
	Like, he thinks traditional gender roles are good.
	He thinks it's okay to date much younger women.
	He thinks what I guess not for instance.
	What of the dynamic that you explained earlier has anything to do with traditional?
	You can support it for society, but not for yourself, you know?
	I mean, you don't think that a guy who requests that you do that is mentally ill?
	You don't think that's a good thing?
	I mean, he's definitely ill-throated, but he's a functional member of society for the most part.
	I've definitely seen more throats.
	You don't feel bad about it either.
	I mean, it's just in that one.
	It's interesting.
	The women, the women object to the bow thing, but like they would absolutely ban.
	Like, we've had girls who come on the show who do Findom, who's basically financial abuse.
	And they basically bankrupt men, but somehow I'm the bad guy because I want a woman to bow.
	No, I don't think she was saying it was bad.
	She even said she'd do it.
	She's just saying, as long as you don't really view them as like less than human and beneath you.
	View them as a property that is less than you or like a slave.
	Do you want a submissive woman or do you want a brat?
	In what context?
	I do not like brats at all.
	I don't believe you.
	You like to argue a lot.
	Well, a brat is like they're like submissive, but they're going to fight back a little bit and like make you yeah, it's like a sub thing of BDSM.
	Yeah, so you don't mean like in the commons, if you call it, you know, somebody a brat, it means you're acting spoiled, rotten, you know, something like that.
	So it doesn't mean that it's some other kink, some other kink bullshit.
	Sort of.
	I mean, okay.
	Yeah, it's kink bullshit.
	Okay.
	But they actually answer your question, I don't want a brat.
	I don't want to.
	You just want like a fully submissive fully submissive.
	Yep.
	What camps, Ethan?
	What are you talking about?
	I mean, much.
	He's our own, I guess.
	I'll read it while it's up.
	Ethan Knight, much love.
	Actually, Maddie, can you read it?
	Much love and appreciation to the good intentions of your podcast, Brian and Andrew Effing Wilson, who is always the best on the show.
	Some of these women, though, would not have survived the camps.
	Thank you, Ethan.
	Can you hide it and then read this one?
	Number one rule to kink.
	You don't expose non-consenting people to kinks.
	Stop meddling with reasons why it's not so bad.
	I don't know.
	You basically essayed everyone who was around.
	They didn't know does an excuse.
	Right.
	Mine was in private, just by the way.
	Mom's at my house.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Ethan, thank you for that, Super Chat, man.
	Really appreciate it.
	I think that's my first time seeing you send in a super.
	So appreciate your patronage, man.
	There's rules.
	Like, what?
	There's rules to kill.
	The name of degeneracy is this shit.
	I don't do this stuff anymore.
	I was never into it.
	Do they have consent forms for keywords?
	Andrew's, like, how would you do that?
	You didn't know somebody wanted me to do that shit.
	There's a book.
	I'll get it.
	You had a man in the chat 101?
	Yeah, like I experimented with a kid in the colour, but like we weren't hooking up or anything, and I would never.
	How to be a degenerate scumbag 101.
	Oh boy.
	Oh boy.
	Anyways, let's see.
	You said, how could, wait, hold on.
	There's an honors course, too.
	You know, a lot of men like to, it's mostly men who get those like plugs that are like remote controlled and like wear them around in stores and stuff.
	Girls don't do that like as much as men.
	They're really into like wearing butt plugs in public and stuff.
	Well, that's what my subs like.
	Tell me.
	You know, they're degenerate.
	They're fucking degenerate.
	A lot of them are also married.
	I live in West Hollywood and she's married to somebody.
	They got a beard.
	Yeah, their wife's values are just so high.
	Their wife has a beard.
	Their wife has a beard.
	Those guys are probably, they're probably.
	They're hanging out with Hollywood.
	They're hanging out in the water.
	I personally don't judge anyone's kink.
	Me neither, but I'm not kinking anything.
	I judge you.
	You can't walk them through malls and make them wear panties and drink sperm.
	I'm sure you don't judge anybody's kink.
	Yeah, it would be a pretty precarious branch to stand on, would you?
	Did he pay you?
	No, I didn't ever ask for money.
	That's the thing because I couldn't ask him for anything.
	Because I'm also very subby.
	I don't want to.
	Yeah, it's hard for me to even ask my subs whenever I like need meeting.
	I'm just like, so.
	Sort of.
	Okay, you said you've been the main provider in all your relationships.
	It's not a preference.
	I've just yet to connect with anyone who makes good money.
	Not a problem, but unfortunately, I've been used a lot, so now I have this fear of ulterior motives, much like men do with women.
	My recent ex, fiancé kinda, had you paying student loans, truck payments, truck and motorcycle mods, regular and wilderness EMT courses, firefighter training, general credit card debt, etc.
	And yeah, he also runs a scam on the internet under a fake name.
	He's literally a serial scammer.
	So you're sugar mama.
	You picked a good one, eh?
	This was like the first guy that I dated who he was really just good at faking.
	He had this mask, but you know, because I have a very degenerate past, he was the first good guy, the one that I thought like I was doing the right thing.
	Like my parents would approve of this.
	Come to find out afterward, they were like, I always got a bad vibe about him.
	But I was naive.
	I was like, oh, this is.
	See why you're supposed to listen to your parents?
	Do you see why you're supposed to listen to them?
	They didn't tell me until after because they just thought I was happy and they didn't want to give me that.
	But they didn't give her the information until after she broke up with them.
	So it's a little they should have, though.
	They should have.
	But you would have told her to ignore it.
	You would have said, ignore their advice.
	So, yeah, so that's on you.
	How else wait?
	How else are you going to become a good human being until you learn how to not be a good person?
	You adopt your ethics, your morals, and even your mannerisms from your parents.
	You're a genetic copy, essentially, of your mom and your dad.
	So, the nature that they are is probably going to at least trickle down to you somewhat.
	So, if they have good ethics or good morals or they're pillars of the community or things like that, I would think that you would want kids to listen to them.
	That seems wise.
	Like, if they were, if they're successful, at least to some degree.
	Now, I would judge success as being something as basic as, you know, they go to work every day and they get by, but they love you.
	That seems like success to me.
	That seems like it's something that most people can at least emulate to a degree.
	If I'm going to play the devil's advocate, though, if I were going to listen, or if most people listened to their parents, you wouldn't see a lot of the comedians who are comedians be comedians or actors be actors because those are frivolous jobs.
	You know, so there's things like that.
	Yeah, but this isn't a 1980s movie.
	Come on.
	Where you're like, Keith, right?
	Where they're like, no, I want you to go to a business school instead of an art school.
	That was all phony baloney shit anyway.
	That was all deconstructing society in the 80s anyway, due to punk rock culture.
	Most of the time, if you want to go to a good art school, your parents aren't like, no, that's just not really how it works in reality, honestly.
	They might give you advice to the contrary.
	Yikes, stay away from Bum's Purple.
	Abuela, you can't keep saying people should not listen to parents when you are exhibiting as to why people should.
	I'm not going to dispute that, but I'm not an Abuela, stupid.
	What's Abuela's grandma?
	I'm not a grandma.
	You're a dumb fuck.
	Oh, he was like, I didn't even know what that is.
	Oh, he's a good idea.
	She called you a dumb fuck.
	I did.
	Shots fired.
	Name Tim Books.
	Going back to you.
	So this guy who you paid all this shit.
	I'm a Christian conservative.
	We can't read.
	Meanwhile, he shamed you for how you made money and he ended up cheating on you with a nurse and got the clap.
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	This is true.
	Well, I was stripping back then, and then after the thing that I can't mention, I started doing OnlyFans.
	And yeah, he did not like that I was a stripper, but he benefited from it.
	And he used the fact that it was a degenerate thing and like he didn't like it.
	And I'm just a strumpet to be like manipulating me to film.
	She watches the show.
	She likes the show.
	He manipulated me with, you know, just shaming me for what I do into making up for it by giving him all my money.
	And I literally left that relationship with nothing.
	I mean, like, I feel like I kind of side with you on this one because, like, he can't be all bitching about your job while you're paying for all his shit.
	That part, like, he needs to, like, pay for his shit or, like, and then he can't.
	I'm going to have to take a disagreement with Brian on this one.
	So, like, okay, I think he can.
	I think that even if he's not working and you're supporting him, he can still bitch if you're a sex worker.
	I think that that's fine.
	Like, I don't actually have any objection to that.
	I mean, he can just.
	Well, my view is he just shouldn't have dated her.
	I mean, yeah, if he had like a bad person, like, if he wasn't getting from it until he didn't even know what I was doing, like you told me, pretty woman, he thought he could turn him out, right?
	So he bitched about it a little bit.
	That seems reasonable, right?
	Seems reasonable.
	Like, why can't it?
	Why can't you bitch God?
	Why can't you say, you know, I still would like you to not do that?
	Well, it wasn't even a moral thing because he was also very promiscuous.
	While you guys were together.
	Actually, he was cheating.
	But we had an open relationship.
	Yeah, but you didn't know he was cheating, right?
	This was probably the most open relationship I ever had.
	He had no reason to cheat.
	She literally I had a suspicion because there were some things that were like little signs and you know, but you didn't know.
	And if you knew he was cheating, you would have ended the combo or that, not the combo, the relationship.
	So you can't say, well, he was promiscuous if he didn't know he was cheating.
	But there was no like, you know, because we're supposed to talk to each other and be like, let them know about our partners.
	Like, if I had a partner, he knew about him.
	If I was even just in a talking stage, like talking on Tinder with somebody, I would be like, hey, I met this new guy who I kind of vibe with.
	But he just did not tell me about this particular one at all and really denied it.
	But I knew that there was something going on because I was this one of those weird underwear also.
	Okay.
	Hang on.
	I got to ask.
	Is it one of those weird things where you're like, we have the ground rules where as long as we just tell each other who we're boning, then it's okay.
	It's one of those things.
	Oh, you didn't tell me, so you cheated.
	Is it one of those?
	Yeah, it's about communication and honesty.
	And like, obviously, if there were somebody that we didn't feel comfortable with and we brought that up, we would.
	But this is while you're a sex worker, right?
	Why?
	This relationship or this whole thing?
	I've been a sex worker since I was 19.
	But that's where the hypocrisy comes in.
	It's like you can't really expect him to just be monogamous if you're a sex worker.
	Well, we weren't victimizing.
	That's the thing.
	That's another reason why, like, that he used to basically feel bad about everything and like been to his every need and pay for everything he wanted.
	And I think your act was a bitch.
	And then you finally figured that out.
	And I didn't left his ass.
	I didn't leave him because he had been cheating either.
	I didn't leave him because he was cheating because I don't give a fuck.
	I didn't give a shit.
	She doesn't give a fuck.
	I really don't care about the cheating.
	I just thought it was funny to bring up because she was a nurse and gave him and I chlamydia.
	Oh, you got the clap too?
	Well, I mean, I was fucking my boyfriend.
	So, unfortunately, yeah.
	I'm really happy you're with this one.
	Good now.
	Thank you.
	He gave you the clap?
	Well, we were fucking.
	I thought you guys were.
	Honestly, that's the only time I've ever had an STD.
	So.
	Wow.
	Oh, no.
	Many years after promiscuous.
	I was telling you, stop doing that shit.
	So maybe God being like, you know, stop.
	But it's really, yo, you can get sick at the grocery store because someone sneezes on you.
	Like, stop going to the grocery store.
	Like, all you have to do is go get a little shot or take, you know, you get an HPV vaccine and then you're good.
	Like.
	Is that the case with HIV?
	Well, I'm not having HIV.
	That's why I made Gary get that shit.
	I'll continue on with my notes here.
	Andrew, I don't know if you saw this.
	I just wanted to bring Andrew's attention to this.
	Nick, could you show up the articles about the bear killing?
	Andrew, Andrew's going to love this one.
	Not love it.
	You talking about the attacks that have been happening in California?
	Yeah, a woman, the first ever black bear fatality in California.
	A woman was killed.
	It's kind of ironic.
	It's like this timing.
	With all the women picking in the bear.
	The timing is in Pepper.
	Now, going on to more notes from you, you said, don't hold body count against people.
	Even though I've been promiscuous in my past, I've become very choosy of who I'm romantic with now.
	In fact, I'd argue that my experience has made me even more secure in my current relationship because I know what I want and don't want.
	Well, couldn't you know what you want and don't want in a relationship without fucking?
	Hmm?
	Huh?
	What?
	Huh?
	Well, like, you mean sexually?
	Because I mean, that's the thing.
	I'm still confused about this question.
	Well, you said, in fact, because what I said there, I think you're misunderstanding, was that I've had a lot of, well, sexually as well, but like just with from person to person, their traits, their characteristics, and all that stuff, and like how we connect and just values as well.
	Okay, but so you said you'd argue that your experience has made me even more secure in my current relationship because I know what I want and don't want now.
	You've become very choosy of who I'm romantic with now.
	So you said you've had sex between like 50 and 100 people.
	Couldn't you, like this experience you garnered in terms of what you want and don't want, of all the people you've had sex with, wouldn't you have gotten the same experience even if you hadn't had sex with them?
	No.
	Well, I'm not talking about sexual experience.
	I mean, maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by experience and what you want and don't want.
	So what he's asking, the simplified version, he's just saying.
	Thank you.
	Couldn't you have gained the same exact experiences with these people absent having sex with them?
	Why is the sex the important part of these experiences?
	Well, because it's, I mean, in a relationship, it's usually, well, there's a number of things that you would go outside of a relationship for besides sex.
	So no, it isn't just sex.
	It's also a lot of other things, like the way they treat you, the way you communicate, and all the things.
	But I was doing those things with the other partners that I've had in my life.
	It wasn't just sex.
	So I learned a lot about the people who are not going to be able to do that.
	That's not what he is.
	I learned a lot about people and how they treat me and what they're doing.
	I don't know why it's not reading.
	Purple when you ran to the bathroom and started throwing up.
	Is it because you smelled your own rancid piss?
	Is that why the TP, Chris Jenner, did the blank try-up before or after the surgery's roasts?
	I actually inhaled some water.
	Name ten books, Nicola.
	Thank you, Nickelodeon.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, by the way, TTS is down.
	Forgot to mention, we've lowered it to 69.
	If any of you want to get one in before we wrap up the show.
	Speaking of which, let me pull this up.
	Anonymous donated $100.
	Number one rule to kink.
	You don't expose the city.
	We already read this.
	Okay, my bad.
	My bad.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	The last notes here.
	We have.
	You had a tweet and you said, TBH, I'm a cuck, so I like when my man gets pussy.
	Oh, wow.
	So you're a cuck queen.
	You're a cuck queen.
	Only if it's under the right communication beforehand.
	And even when not, you know, it can still be kind of hot.
	It just depends on like a lot of different variables.
	And if, you know, it feels cucky.
	But wait, so if the girl, like, for example, if the girl's hotter than you, and he still tells you, but he has like a stronger sexual connection with her, are you upset?
	Are you going to get upset?
	The girl's hotter and he has a stronger sexual connection.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's why a little, but why he talks to you.
	But he told you about it.
	He gave you, he's like, hey, honey, I want to fuck this hotter chick.
	I like her pussy better than yours.
	Is that okay?
	Sure.
	You can't, a female can't be a cuckold.
	Only men can be cuckled.
	Definitely, cuck is just.
	There is a term cuck queen.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's just, but that's meaningless, right?
	The whole purpose behind the term cuck is that you could unwittingly be raising the offspring that is not yours.
	That's true.
	Or for women, the offspring's always going to be theirs.
	You're not unwittingly ever going to be raising offspring, which is not theirs unwittingly.
	That can't happen.
	There is no female cuck.
	That's just nonsense talk, right?
	So then what is it?
	Is it just a cuck?
	No, what is her situation?
	She's a voyer.
	Oh, well, any guy who's with her.
	She's gonna say a voyeur.
	She's a fucking idiot.
	So if a guy is sharing her, he's a cuck.
	Right.
	She's a voyeur.
	Chick camp.
	Yeah, she's just what you would call, I guess, a strumpet, right?
	That's trumpet.
	That's what you would just call it that.
	Essentially.
	Oops.
	So, hold on.
	We need to do some dating app review.
	Nick, can you pull up the dating app reviews?
	What's the tweet?
	Can you read it to me?
	People are so stupid.
	Oh, we'll pull it.
	Yeah, we can do that really quick.
	I don't know.
	One of you posted this, yeah.
	Actually, he who does not lick the clitch and not get to hit.
	One of you guys tweeted this out.
	Or like reacted to it.
	It looks like a cool party.
	Look at all the punks.
	They went crusty.
	I love it.
	So going around the table is the deal breaker for guys not willing to go down.
	I've had a guy that did not want to, and yeah, there was a lot of other things going on there.
	I don't prefer it.
	Like, it's not my favorite.
	It's not my favorite thing.
	So, I mean, I don't think I'd care that much, honestly.
	Okay.
	I don't care that much.
	I don't really care.
	It's a bit of a deal breaker.
	Ooh.
	That would be a deal breaker for me.
	I don't care.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm indifferent.
	Anonymous donated $69.
	Your long-term boyfriend is cheating on you, and all his friends know.
	Do you expect his friends to tell you?
	Brian, how about name tags on the mic stands to easily identify guests?
	We've had the suggestion before.
	We're not going to do that, but I appreciate it.
	Yeah, that is a scenario I'm supposed to answer, I guess.
	Well, I think I'm pretty close with their friends.
	They might snitch, but they might not.
	It's a strange question.
	Yeah, I think they'd probably.
	I'd like to think that they would.
	His friends tell you.
	The chatter's asking if they should.
	Should they snitch?
	Okay, your long-term boyfriend is cheating on you.
	All his friends know.
	Do you expect his friends to tell you?
	For underscore the underscore patriarchy, donated $69.
	Question for the panel: Would you let your partner go to the strip club if they go for the wings and music?
	Okay, we'll come here.
	We'll do that one, then we'll come back to the cheating one.
	So going around the table on this one.
	Yeah, I don't have a problem with him going to strip club.
	We go together.
	I don't care.
	I don't care.
	No comment.
	I wouldn't want him to go without me, but I took the last guy I dated to the strip club for his first time.
	Or was it for the wings and the music?
	No.
	No?
	Okay.
	Yes, only for the wings and the music.
	The salad bar.
	Right.
	Oh, God.
	Sometimes I feel good, though.
	My husband wouldn't go, but I wouldn't care, honestly.
	I wouldn't care if he went.
	Yeah, would you let him read Hustler magazine because they just really like the articles?
	Absolutely.
	Well, it was the cover of May.
	So, Hustler Magic.
	He can borrow mine.
	I mean, ideally, you'd pick a man that doesn't have an interest in going regardless.
	You can eat wings somewhere else.
	And then long-term boyfriend, all his friends know.
	Do you expect his friends to tell you?
	No.
	No.
	Yes?
	It's bro code.
	Yeah.
	It's against broad.
	But they do tell us.
	Sometimes they will not.
	If they're trying to fuck you.
	Yeah, they'd be snitching.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Bros before hoes.
	Okay.
	They'll tell you if they're trying to smash in the next kid apps, yep.
	Wait, which one is this?
	Nine out of ten.
	Is this zoomed out?
	Smash.
	Smash the past.
	Oh, she's like Facebook dating.
	Hard smash.
	I think you got a zoom.
	Can you zoom it out and show me, please?
	Yeah.
	Is that the TikTok sound?
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Well, I have it on the next one and did it on purpose.
	What do you mean?
	But we need a.
	Okay, that's fun.
	Can you read this one, Alyssa?
	Just read your answers.
	Based, I value intellect and communication above all.
	I typically won't engage in small talk, but if you want to talk space travel, psychology, philosophy, etc., I'll probably bite.
	I have kids and I'm hoping to have in more.
	My Insta is something like Clementine.
	Oh, and my love language is acts of service.
	So if you're lazy or don't have your life together, we won't vibe.
	And then I said, looking for a man in tech, green eyes.
	Trust fund, six plus.
	And then I said, it's a TikTok reference.
	Totally not serious.
	LOL.
	Lol.
	Yeah, it's just a funny reference.
	Your love language is acts of service.
	Yeah.
	My confusion with the love languages is what you want or how you express both.
	It can be, but most of the time, it's in reference to what you expect.
	Men tend to be physical touch or acts of service, or actually, maybe men are more like physical touch and words of affirmation, I think.
	Acts of service is worth it.
	And I just put that because the last guy that I interacted with was super lazy.
	And like, I take care of two toddlers alone, keep a spotless house, cook, work multiple jobs.
	So I'm very driven.
	I cannot carry some.
	Like, I just feel like as a man, you're probably like a bum if you can sit there and watch someone that you claim to care about struggling and you're not naturally inclined to help.
	Because I would never watch a man go through it and not, you know, have the empathy to help him.
	Like, I would take it upon myself.
	You're not like the vast majority of women?
	I don't know.
	I'm not the vast majority of women, so I can't speak for them, but.
	Oh, wait.
	So you wouldn't, what, clean up after your toddlers?
	Yes.
	No, Like, okay, like one day my air conditioner, like, I needed more Freon.
	I needed to charge my air conditioner in the car.
	And, like, you're not useful to me as a man if I'm doing that and taking care of kids and cooking and cleaning.
	Like, that's something you should be doing, I feel.
	I support gender roles.
	I'm totally fine keeping a clean house, looking hot for you, bearing babies.
	I don't think every relationship should be like that, but I tend to prefer that, the, you know, the more biblical type of thing.
	So, like, if you don't have a job and you're not driven, you don't have any goals or aspirations, and you're just lazy and you just sit around and do nothing, that's not attractive to me.
	He didn't have a job?
	No, not really.
	I can't, like, disclose too much because then it'll be obvious who I'm talking about.
	So, didn't you choose him?
	No, no.
	Once I realized that he was like that, I was like, this is not going to work out.
	Okay.
	The example of why he was lazy is because you can recharge your AC with Key Larson donated $70.
	Nothing ever.
	Purple hair girl, catching an STD is not appealing.
	Please stop being a strumpet.
	Question for the ladies.
	If a man is the provider in a marriage relationship, is he the prize?
	Sure, we'll go around the table on this.
	Go ahead.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I don't know, yes.
	Yeah, I'd say so.
	Yeah.
	Assuming he's good to you otherwise as well.
	Like, because you can be a provider and be a piece of shit, and then I'm still going to divorce you.
	Your head or anything like to do crazy stuff.
	Is he the prize?
	That's the question.
	I don't.
	I think we could both be the prize, but was there another tab on the dating one from her?
	Or is that the only thing?
	The whole lazy guy thing.
	Yeah.
	And like, you have, like, my main thing is that you have to be intellectually stimulating for me.
	Wait, so what do you want in a guy?
	I want someone who's intelligent, and like, I don't expect anybody to take care of me, but I don't want to have to take care of them either.
	Okay.
	But mostly, I want someone who's like, I love to debate, and I like somebody to teach me things.
	And like, I want to, I want who I'm around to be better than me so that I can grow.
	Like, debate with your party.
	I mean, not all the time, but yeah.
	Yeah, that's fun stuff.
	Oh, I hate that.
	I just love to explore, not necessarily debate, but I like to explore intellectual topics together.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Even if you don't have a disagreement, you can just stop.
	Go ahead.
	You said you don't like when people debate with you.
	I mean, we know.
	It's obvious.
	Just saying.
	What?
	Say the spicy thing that you were going to say.
	What spicy thing?
	I don't know.
	It sounds very spicy.
	Tech underscore peach underscore eater donated $69.
	Six feet one inch in tech, six figures, skateboarder.
	I eat peaches on first date.
	And you are banging.
	Oh my God.
	Well, I don't sleep with anybody on a first date, but get tested.
	And if, you know, revive it.
	Have you ever had a one-night stand?
	Yes, once.
	Have you ever slept with somebody on the first date but continued seeing them?
	Yes, but this is all prior to becoming a Christian, too.
	What denomination again?
	I mean, I know y'all push for this.
	I mean, I just, you could say Protestant, I guess, but really I just denominated that.
	I just like read, like, I interpret the Bible.
	Wait, so are you waiting until marriage to have sex?
	No.
	Well, so what, why, hold on.
	I'm not saying that I'm a perfect Christian and that I uphold all the things.
	Well, no, but why?
	Hold on, hold on.
	If the reason you no longer sleep with someone on the first date, the justification, the pretext is you siding to Christian values.
	Sure, but if you look at the ultimate, hold on.
	Wouldn't the ultimate manifestation of that be waiting until marriage?
	Sure, but if you look at the context of marriage within biblical times, they weren't like having a court officiate a wedding.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, the church did.
	Is the church officiating your wedding?
	I don't know.
	Like, I wouldn't actually be opposed to waiting.
	Why you shouldn't debate?
	You're bad at it.
	So you're with the guy who's probably a lot worse at debating.
	Whatever.
	I try to uphold as many of them as I can, but I'm not going to be perfect at it.
	I don't think anybody can pretend to be.
	Yeah, but perfection's not the point of Christianity or Christian ethics.
	If you're talking about Christian ethics, though, if you're trying to uphold not being promiscuous because you think that that's part of divine command, then just not sleeping with a guy in the first date really doesn't have anything to do with it.
	It's basically skirting the whole point of what that divine command is, isn't it?
	Sure, yeah.
	I mean, it's not the only reason I don't sleep with someone on the first date, but I do try.
	That's what you cited to.
	I do try.
	Yeah, that's what you appealed to, though, was your Christian ethics.
	Okay, fair.
	I was like, okay, by the third date, then we'll sleep together.
	And it's like, I'm not going to just huddle with people randomly.
	Like, I just, once we're in a monogamous commitment, I guess.
	How long does that typically take?
	I mean, it can vary.
	Months?
	It can vary.
	You're really telling me that the last guy you had sex with, was it, were you guys in a monogamous?
	Yeah, we agreed from the very beginning that if we sleep with other people, we're going to tell each other.
	Smoke donated $69.
	Mommy Milkers.
	Big, big mommy milkers.
	Big, big, huge milkers.
	And huge, big milkies.
	Why are you following up now?
	So the last question for you.
	The last guy that you had sex with, how quickly did you sleep with him?
	I think like the second or third time.
	Yeah.
	But we talked for a while before.
	Okay.
	He actually was asking me out multiple times before I finally went out with him.
	Yeah.
	And we agreed immediately.
	Like, I'm not going to sleep with you if you're sleeping with other people.
	If you decide to, that's fine.
	Just clue me in because I don't want to catch a fucking SCD.
	I just, like, what actual Christian ethics do you adhere to?
	I'm definitely very forgiving.
	I have forgiven my husband for a lot of things.
	I try not to, like, I don't feel like it's my place to judge anybody.
	I try to watch my time.
	Ethics have nothing to do with not judging people.
	Judge not that you may not be judged.
	Or like, you know, watch the standardization.
	Take the log out of your eye before you point out the fucking someone's job.
	But don't you understand that that's a standardization?
	So that's actually giving a standard for which to judge.
	Okay, yeah.
	Saying, okay, yeah, that's what it's doing, is giving a standard for which to judge.
	But it also talks about, like, you know, like, you're not going to sit here and judge somebody for the shit that you're doing.
	Yeah, why couldn't you?
	Because it says, worry about the log in your own eye before you try to point out the splinter in someone else's or something.
	Just so you understand, an appeal to hypocrisy, if you're going to argue something, one of the weakest forms of argumentation to say it's because it's actually fallacious.
	It's called an appeal to hypocrisy.
	So just pointing out, well, let's assume for a second that a serial killer told you that it's bad to kill people.
	He would still be right, but he would be a hypocrite, right?
	So the thing is, when you're structuring arguments, you don't want to think about what could or could not be hypocritical from the person's angle.
	When you're talking about judgment, though, you use judgment all the time.
	I mean, you have to.
	Just to get by in life, you have to use judgment constantly.
	I mean, to some degree.
	Yeah, to some degree.
	So the thing is, is like you judge people constantly.
	I mean, if you see somebody who looks sinister, you probably stay away from them.
	Right.
	But that's why I have a number of different ways you judge them.
	I'm not going to judge someone for things that I'm also doing.
	Yeah, but I don't understand why that makes it better.
	Because it's.
	That's the thing I don't get.
	I don't understand how that is the perception of the Christian ethics.
	That if you're a sinner and you're judging other sinners, that that somehow makes your sin less bad.
	That's what I don't get.
	No, I don't think it makes your sin less bad.
	I'm just right.
	So then why is that part of this kind of ethical framework that you have of, but I don't judge because I'm doing the same thing?
	That doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of that.
	Hansom donated $69.
	Almost to whatever first, all these lovely ladies without visible tattoos are piercings.
	You don't realize just how beautiful and amazing you look.
	The exception gets a pass from me.
	Okay.
	Not sure what that means.
	He likes that you guys don't have tattoos, I guess.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Good to know.
	Good to know.
	Let's do the other dating app.
	This is Sky.
	Okay, this is your hinge.
	Scroll down.
	Next.
	Let's debate this topic: adult circumcision.
	I love that topic.
	Just really quick, what's your position there?
	For or against circumcision?
	For?
	You're for circumcision.
	For adult circumcision.
	Oh, adult.
	Wait.
	So, like, them deciding for themselves.
	Yes.
	Gotcha.
	Oh, so you're against child.
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Alright, next.
	Okay.
	Next.
	Next.
	You won public.
	Okay, cool.
	Congrats.
	Next.
	A social cause I care about.
	This one's interesting.
	Environmental racism.
	Environmental racism is like redlining.
	It's the practice of where certain minority groups are living in areas that have higher pollution and don't have investment from the community in like grocery stores.
	They're like food deserts, stuff like that.
	Yeah, it's always been that way, like everywhere.
	So that's a cause that I care about.
	Are there any more, Nick?
	Or is that it?
	Okay.
	That's my cat.
	Well, my parents' cat.
	Okay, that's a sweet little proper dating app.
	What was the other?
	Was there something else we had to do, Nick?
	We didn't do Bucker.
	Oh, we'll do that really quick, sure.
	Hold on.
	Warlord 69U who donated $69.
	Maddie, where the heck is my man, Gus?
	Andrew, great to see you again.
	Keep destroying the cat before it happens to others.
	Ladies, Bear or Mr. Yeast, the English simp?
	I don't get it.
	Mr. Yeast?
	I don't know who that is.
	Mr. Yeast, the English simp.
	I think he's talking about Bevo.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know who that is, but I'll take him over a bear.
	You might take the bear over Bevo.
	And I'm trying to think what the other thing is.
	That's how we should frame that question from now on, Brian.
	We should say the bear or bevo.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Bear or Bevo.
	We were going to do Bumble, the Bumble segment, really quick, but I got to wait until all the girls are back to do it.
	What's up, Nick?
	They knew John.
	Oh, Bucker, yeah, pull up Bucker.
	Come on.
	And then we got her actually dating harder.
	Dating.
	Wait, dating harder?
	Oh.
	That could be related to the burden component that we're talking about.
	Just pull up Butker.
	This was kind of funny.
	Feminists warn young girls against marrying rich, muscular football stars who love them and take care of all their needs and praise them in speeches.
	So this is basically like he had this speech.
	Me and Andrew reacted to it saying that I forgot precisely what he said, but basically he was saying that women are happiest, I think, as mothers and taking care of the household sort of thing instead of like working some job.
	I think that was the options after college.
	So I thought that was funny.
	That was from the Babylon B or whatever.
	Once she's back, we'll do the bumble segment, then we'll probably wrap up the show.
	I guess we could do a brief roast section.
	I don't know.
	I need to put mod delay on if we're going to do it, though.
	So we need mod.
	Yeah, we need a roast section.
	What was the thing that you were going to say and then the TTS came in?
	Saved by the TTS?
	Something about something that I said?
	How you don't like to debate or something.
	She's like, wait, no, you meant to debate with Beavis.
	What was the own?
	She was so proud of.
	She's so proud.
	I don't know why.
	I mean, it's true.
	You like turn off mics and shit when they don't agree with you.
	No, when they won't bow.
	Someone paid for that.
	Someone paid for that.
	Like $500.
	Yeah.
	He paid for that.
	Is that weird in a relationship to not want to debate?
	I think it is.
	Actually, Jordan Peterson has a talk on this where he says, I want someone to contend with.
	I disagree.
	No.
	If you want to stay one-dimensional, by all means.
	But I want to know when I'm wrong.
	I want to be able to grow when I'm wrong.
	I'm not one-dimensional.
	Yeah, and I don't think it has anything to do with being right or wrong.
	Okay.
	Well, then you're wrong.
	Now grow from this.
	I hate debating.
	I don't want you to be one-dimensional.
	I want you to be three-dimensional.
	What are the three dimensions?
	Being a person.
	What are the.
	You mean, what are you asking me?
	What are the three dimensions?
	Didn't know if the three dimensions stood for something, or if you were referencing like three-dimensional reality.
	No, you said, I don't want to be one-dimensional.
	Right.
	I was doing a play on words.
	Is that why, like, guys, maybe are not always funny?
	Not everybody could be a comedian.
	I mean, it is if you understand it.
	If you understand.
	Or maybe.
	Yeah, but I mean, you have to be seeking that high-level intellectualism that you're seeking so much, right?
	I really do.
	No, I actually love things like this, believe it or not.
	Like, we all have holes in our awareness.
	Nobody knows everything.
	And I think being able to bounce ideas off of people and disagree is good for humanity.
	And I think it's something that society has.
	Yeah, I think it's great for humanity.
	I just don't think it's great for relationships.
	I don't think that debating.
	So debating is contentious, right?
	The idea, you can have an idea behind debate where you're just trying to get to the truth.
	That's true, but debate's also utilized as a weapon.
	It's a weapon which you can defend yourself or you can assail other people verbally.
	And inside of a polite society, that's basically what you're left with.
	That's basically what you're left with, right?
	It's a form of verbal judo, let's say.
	I mean, I guess that's a good idea.
	That sounds like bossing in a relationship, right?
	No, for me, it's just like if we have differing ideas, I just want to discuss each stance and help each other deeper understand one another's perspective.
	And then maybe you change your mind, maybe I change mine, maybe neither one of us do, but then we better understand the other person's position.
	And I just, I like to really explore ideas that way.
	Stacey for Senate donated $69.
	She doesn't like debate.
	She likes head games and word vomit.
	Also, is there a bra shortage in California?
	Where can we donate to help?
	Wearing a bra.
	I can't remember promises.
	You can do it.
	Why my executive comments so you can donate the fucking thread and I was actually having a conversation with somebody about this.
	Honeyboard debt set.
	Okay.
	Honeyboardette set.
	Isn't it the case that?
	Wait.
	If you wear a bra, does it lead to less sagging or more sagging?
	More, more.
	More.
	Okay.
	You can't have that.
	Good to know.
	You cannot have that.
	Not with these perfect.
	Okay, please don't do that.
	I literally know nothing.
	I'm squeaking on nothing.
	Yeah, at least I said yiddies.
	But yeah, it's also about it.
	Any final thoughts from any of the panelists?
	We'll do a short row session and then we'll wrap up.
	Maybe, Andrew, do you have a question?
	I do have one.
	I've been kind of patient here in my notes.
	If you'll humor me.
	So let me pull it up on my screen.
	I wrote it down earlier.
	What would make you stop OnlyFans Forever?
	That's the question.
	Just Finding a new like a interest or a job avenue that I want to pursue, I definitely would, but I just haven't found anything that I want to do more.
	So, is it because it's easy?
	It's definitely not easy.
	You don't think being on Only Hands on OnlyFans is easy?
	No, I work literally like all the time.
	Yeah, and it is an emotionally laboring job, too.
	How is it emotionally laboring?
	I'm literally playing therapist for half people that I talk to.
	It's emotional labor, too, because we're actually, like Brian said, providing a girlfriend experience.
	And that is you giving a bit of your girlfriend.
	You know, jobs are hard.
	You have to make money and have a living.
	And like, what you were actually saying is that comparison to other jobs, it's as easy, but it's easy money, right?
	In comparison to the work.
	That is a common misconception.
	So you mean getting naked on a camera where it doesn't require any actual real brain power because you're not curing cancer.
	You're not, you know, building houses.
	You're not doing construction.
	You're not healing someone.
	It takes about as much brain power as comedy.
	Being a doctor is a media.
	I don't have a masculine job like you might.
	Being a doctor is a masculine.
	It doesn't take as much brain power as comedy.
	What's that?
	I'm not just a comedium.
	I'm a writer and a podcaster as well.
	And I have a real job and I want to talk about it on the show because I don't need everybody to know where I work.
	But I have a real big girl job.
	I think it probably is, though.
	Guys, drop a like on the video, please.
	I think comedy probably would be harder than OnlyFans work, yeah.
	I think they're both on how you approach it.
	She really does like a bunch of editing and photo shoot type stuff.
	I'll do all my own editing, all my own everything.
	Marketing.
	Heads up, guys.
	We've dropped the TTS to 25.
	We'll do a short roast segment.
	Oh, warning.
	I have unlimited moderation delay on this.
	So last show, I didn't have to reject any of the roasts, but I'm warning you that it is again.
	Last show, I let all of them go through.
	But if any of them are like TOS or like you're insulting anybody's appearance, I'm not going to play it.
	If you want to roast what somebody said or, you know, if it's kind of on the more playful side, that's okay.
	But if you're actually like insulting anybody's appearance or you're doing anything TOS or you're being egregiously vile in some way, I'm not going to play it.
	But like I said, I'm pretty open with it.
	So if you guys want, we're going to do a $25 TTS.
	Ladies, you may want to have a drink for this.
	Scrace yourself.
	But also, Andrew, Only Cance 2, and I'll be done once I have enough money to buy people donated $200.
	Good idea.
	Great show.
	Good to see you, man.
	Thank you.
	Blondie, you got potential.
	Purple, stay away from bums and open relationships.
	And the rest of you, good luck.
	Abuilita, yikes.
	Thanks for that.
	Hey, Old Man Maureen.
	I probably fucked your father then.
	What is that?
	I'm not confident that's the own you think it is.
	Old man Maureen, I'm very sorry, but your chat is not appropriate.
	I guess we can.
	This one's kind of okay.
	If you have an idea, Chundas Corehopper underscore outdoors donated $25 to the soft three in pink do a pit test now on the gross chick with the poo story.
	What poo story?
	There's a poo story involved too?
	Someone threw some $6,969 blah blah blah69 donated $25.
	Shares 1, 2, and 3 are prostitutes.
	3 is just a former prostitute as she had an only simps page.
	Pros middle.tmiddle.tute, a person, in particular a woman, who engages in sex activity for payment.
	Shout out EZ.
	Nickelodeon donated $25.
	Yeah, but I don't know why you're throwing me shade.
	I'll name 10 books when you can name 3 science/slash tech books.
	The demon haunted by Carl Sagan, The Future of Humanity.
	Psycho donated $25 to the blonde girl.
	Is it cold in here, sweetheart?
	It is now.
	Because it's my time now.
	I think it's a break here.
	Ripped Rich and Rare donated $25.
	Fat boy Andrew needs whatever Bra Yal can scrape up.
	He's a bag of trash with 10-inch arms and big tits.
	Fat has crossed over gender barriers by growing tits.
	Titties.
	Oops.
	Tits.
	You beat us.
	I see myself.
	Oh, damn.
	Raven Simp donated $25.
	I don't think Ravenhaired actually likes debating.
	I think she likes conflict and men being aggressive.
	Notice how today she refused to say I'm wrong.
	Lol.
	I conceded multiple times.
	Did you?
	Yeah, she did.
	You didn't concede it.
	I did.
	Yes, I did.
	No, no, no, no, she did.
	You did.
	Yeah.
	Not really.
	Like, there's some things I'm not going to just bow on.
	There's data.
	Re-watch it.
	Dude, do we have a study that you conceded?
	GR Gracie donated $25.
	Quote underscore ladies underscore end quote.
	If a guy treats you badly, not physically abusive, but word on the street is you sort of deserve it.
	Is he really the bad guy in this scenario?
	No.
	PLS help donated $25.
	Hey, Brian and Andrew.
	29-year-old, I own my house, make $100,000 a year, two kids.
	I work in mental health and was left after six years of marriage.
	Any advice on how to move forward?
	Well, I'm sure wherever you work, you'll get a discount, so I wouldn't worry about it.
	Any advice on how to move forward?
	Left after six years of marriage.
	Gotta get back on the saddle.
	You gotta find a new woman.
	Is that Brian's Clint Eastwood impression?
	I have no idea.
	I don't know what I'll do.
	I don't know what else going for.
	Collection donated $25.
	Alyssa, I didn't say we would have sex first date.
	I would bite them peaches in a lady's room.
	That's all.
	$6,969 blah blah blah $69 donated $25.
	There is no difference between regular pron and your only simps page.
	Trying to argue there is, is just cope.
	Not only are you doing prawn, but you are also a prostitute.
	Renee Anit 13 donated $25.
	You husses need to get your shit together.
	Let the patriarch fix you.
	Who's the patriarch in this?
	Who is it?
	He likes to be tied up, I promise you.
	Brian's Lint Roller donated $25.
	Back to low body count.
	An example that modern men care is Jake Paul vs. Dannis.
	Jake was bullied for his wife's promiscuous past.
	Men wouldn't have weaponized this info if they didn't think it mattered.
	Jandar donated $25.
	Maddie is queen.
	And men definitely prefer low body count.
	Facts.
	Goes Logan Paul.
	I don't think that's a roast.
	I think that's just an opinion.
	Yeah, well, they don't have to be aware of it.
	Ulysses the pagan donated $25 to the pro-life talk earlier.
	The panel claimed the right and free will for females, but they don't extend those same rights to the female within the womb.
	This is a great point, by the way.
	Swanson donated $25.
	Saying that OF is harder than being a comedian is ridiculously dumb to say.
	Thank you, Samuel.
	Editing your video of yourself being naked and telling sweet lies to simps cannot compare to trying to make people laugh live.
	Thank you.
	Nicolo Bion donated $25.
	Would you say claiming Twitch is commercial-free, or subs are bugged when they aren't is comparable to an of model using ghost writers?
	I get the sarcasm, just don't want you to feel left out, Brian.
	Well, I actually did turn off the pre-roll ads and the mid-roll ads on Twitch because, I mean, I don't make much on ads on Twitch anyways, and I was like, I'd rather have higher audience retention than just make a couple, like $100 a show or whatever, from Twitch.
	So, and then the prime thing, that's just, I mean, that's me joking, obviously.
	I guess I'm dating a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Thank you, man.
	Okay, we have.
	Psycho donated $25.
	Brian, I felt it necessary to inform you that I find you to be utterly atrocious for your like of wizard sleeves.
	You freak.
	Listen, me and Andrew, as we're both, you know, I'm the founder, but he's on the board of directors.
	We will not stand for your bigotry and hatred towards women with Audis and large labia.
	Andrew is, he's on the board of directors.
	He won't stand for it either, right, Andrew?
	Anyways, I disavow.
	Disavow.
	I 100% disavow.
	Yeah.
	We're the ghosts.
	But the one point of contention that me and Mr. Atlas have all the time is I do not believe that.
	It was super mild.
	I do not believe that, Brian.
	I don't believe the big labia is men.
	Anybody here?
	So, one point of contention.
	Any Audis at the table?
	Are you circumcised?
	If I answer, will everybody hear it?
	Are we talking about melly buttons?
	An Audi?
	What?
	What?
	Labia.
	Audi Labia.
	No, I'm just curious.
	That would be so uncomfortable.
	To have an Audi?
	Yeah, especially as a runner.
	That would like ruin my life.
	Okay.
	What the fuck?
	Let's play the blue.
	Yeah, we can't do that.
	Sorry, bro.
	Sorry.
	And also, if there's any cursing, we can't.
	Oh.
	Bretimus underscore Maximus donated $25.
	Purple hair, you said you're playing therapist to many men on your of when you were questioned on what it would take for you to quit.
	What if I told you that you could do it for just one man, husband?
	Raven simp donated $25.
	That said, I'd love to try to date.
	I mean, debate Raven.
	XD, I'll be in the Instagram DMs.
	I can tell you love the attention.
	Especially when guys mention your peach.
	Long.
	Old Man Marine donated $25.
	Andrew, what's wrong with you today?
	You were way too nice tonight.
	Did you get your rocks off before you came on?
	Spit that fire, we love it.
	My apologies, Brian.
	You're not that fat long.
	Well, okay, Larson donated $27 of girls.
	You shall bow to Brian right now or else he'll turn into a grizzly bear.
	You think you could survive Brian the grizzly bear?
	Russ donated $25.
	Patriarch here, just sending love to Bobby Babe for tolerating these cringe lords votier.
	Oh my god, hi, I love you.
	Is that one of your only fan cents?
	No patriarch would ever.
	John the Weistoffi donated $25.
	Raven hair, the show isn't over yet, but I am already cheating on you.
	You are a blabbering know-it-all.
	Think you are always correct and you never STF you.
	Better get help.
	Sort of.
	$6,969 blah blah blah $69 donated $25.
	Now for fun, Mommy Milkers, Mommy Milker's MotorBoat.
	Oh my god.
	Nickelodeon donated $25.
	You're not worth a roast, Blondie.
	I forgot you were there.
	Oh, damn.
	Damn.
	Hey.
	Boom roasted.
	I'm booming.
	That is a good roast.
	Boom.
	Okay, so I'm looking at her in the monitor.
	Brian, try to be productive by being collaborative rather than combative.
	You act personally offended every time you are challenged.
	It's immature.
	Try to conduct yourself better.
	Shop, Stampin'.
	Lord of Fire donated $25.
	Brixen, if you treated that dumpy like a raid boss, you could get rid of it in one raid tier.
	The loot that drops is a plus 10 stamp buffer.
	Sagnaros Lord of Fire donated 25.
	You can pull those up, Nick.
	Guys, it's just through Streamlabs if you want to send a message.
	We're not doing reads.
	Yep, okay.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, thank you, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	If you guys want, you can get your last-minute messages in there for the roasts.
	We're going to wrap up here in a few minutes and trying to think what else there was to talk about.
	I hit all my notes.
	We did all the dating apps.
	Oh, we didn't do the bumble segment.
	Okay.
	We'll have the girls do, you get 20 swipes each.
	This is good to do with end.
	I like this.
	And we'll see what your type is.
	We need like your dating age range.
	Yeah, age range.
	If you get like, so I would say 31 to 50 men and women.
	Is that allowed?
	I think we can only do men.
	Okay.
	Wait, so 30 to 50?
	31 to 50.
	It's not like a non-negotiable.
	I would go for an older or younger guy, but.
	F11, please.
	Oh, nice.
	Do I like show their bios?
	Oh, I mean, the first picture looks.
	Okay.
	So, yes or no?
	I'm not into the fedora, but he's cute.
	No.
	The fedora was a deal breaker.
	Yeah, no?
	Yes.
	I like him, yes.
	Definitely.
	Yes.
	We're pausing the TTS for just a moment, but you guys can send them in and I'll get to them in a bit.
	I'm making like the silliest face.
	I can't tell, but I'll go with no on the safe side.
	Yes.
	No, not for this guy.
	I don't know which one you want.
	Just choose like the hottest one if there's like multiple guys in the picture.
	Yes, I want this guy in the bike.
	Hell yeah.
	Um no, I don't like his facial hair.
	Uh yes, yes, yes, it looks like young Andrew.
	Um no no no yes, like a okay, no for next time.
	What's your age range?
	We're gonna go with you next in your age range.
	What's your age range?
	Uh 28 to 35.
	Ah, that's mine, too.
	I'm great.
	I'm 22.
	I'm 22.
	No. No. No. No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's cute.
	No no sure sure no yes no yeah no, the cat's cute.
	No, he's peeing in.
	That that's a no hard no, no.
	age range um let's say 29 to 40.
	i keep trying to play footsie with you
	I keep playing, no yes no yeah no, I no no no no yes no no, no.
	Yes no no no no, looks like a good time.
	No.
	Nah.
	Next age range?
	Um, 24 to 32.
	Uh, yes?
	Yes.
	No. No. No. No.
	Yes.
	A lot of travel guys on here.
	Yes yes, not enough dad bods.
	Yes, which one both?
	Is it a two-for-one deal?
	Uh, no pictures.
	Yes, who's rock climbing?
	Uh, you don't even know who it is.
	Just say yes or no.
	No Kyle sure, sure.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Uh, no.
	No.
	Uh, yes. Yes. Yes.
	And no.
	Was that all?
	Yes.
	Smile, man.
	Daddy, sorry.
	Alex, you together.
	Yes, squid age range.
	Um thirty-eight to fifty.
	Ooh.
	Yeah, guess so.
	You gonna go on the Golden Bachelor?
	Maybe.
	Perfect match into the mic.
	If you can't just say yes or no, I can't see his face well enough.
	No yes.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	No. No. No. No. No.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Nope.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Too daddish.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Uh, 28 to 37.
	No. No. No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Nope.
	Yes.
	No.
	No.
	Yes. Yes. Yes. No.
	Yes.
	Everybody had such different tastes.
	My taste didn't even come up on there.
	It wasn't even like overwhelmingly like yes or no or a single kid from the office.
	What do you think, Madison?
	Not as piggy as like other people have been.
	They're pretty good.
	Any no, like 100% no's?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, guys, we're gonna do a few more minutes of the uh of the thing.
	A couple came through.
	I'm gonna let them come through.
	Mr. Bullet donated twenty-five dollars.
	Communique from the Grand Inquisitor.
	Brian, you have failed to provide Blue White Cup with certificate of authenticity.
	You are hereby ordered to hit the gym.
	Your weight gain is offensive.
	Get to it.
	Yeah, I've got to lose some weight, boys.
	Eric Six donated $25.
	Did you see H3Ethan challenged you to a debate?
	I believe you can beat him.
	He clearly has never watched your show and is only making assumptions on your stances and opinions.
	I hope you do it.
	You guys are getting really smarter than we are.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I honestly, I'm not interested, to be honest.
	But Andrew would do great, though.
	Okay, we have Bore troll donated $25.
	Brian, I'm not sure why you don't go down on women.
	With your micro peepee, you have to give the girls something to expect.
	Eating the is usually tasty unless it's summer.
	Summer.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I'm a fan of labia, but I don't do that.
	They're coming for you.
	What's that?
	I said they're coming for you.
	Oh, I don't care.
	Will you kiss a woman after she's gone down on you?
	Nope.
	She can, like, rinse her mouth or brush her teeth or whatever, but.
	Wow.
	It's called a sexual boundary.
	Interesting.
	Okay, so are you agreeing, Andrew?
	You don't go down on women either?
	I didn't say that.
	I said that if a woman were to go down on a deer, you ain't fucking kissing her afterwards.
	It's gross.
	It's your woman.
	If it's your wife, I don't give a shit.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	But you do go down on women, though.
	I want to get a fucking, you better get a toothbrush.
	What the fuck?
	No way.
	Y'all are babies.
	What's that?
	I said, that's babyish.
	I'm not going to say that.
	What's your body county as you're going to be?
	Hold on.
	How about instead of you two whispering under your breath, why don't you actually say it into the microphones?
	This is so unserious.
	I said, so you've never done a cum swap.
	Okay.
	Yeah, what did you say?
	I said this feels like high school.
	Why does it feel like high school?
	Because it feels like you make a statement and then he agrees.
	Andrew disagrees with me.
	And Andrew agrees.
	I think Andrews.
	Andrew disagrees with me on plenty of things.
	He didn't object to that one.
	Yeah, he just doesn't like to be kissed after his wife goes on with it.
	But I felt like those are like very high school things to say because that's just inexperienced.
	How does it feel like I'm not going to be able to do that?
	You know what I need to do?
	I need to walk a guy through a mall while he's drinking his sperm.
	And then I can get the sufficient experience to get the clap like you did.
	One of these people with each other.
	Alright, he got you on that one.
	Well, so how is it, how would it have anything to do with inexperience?
	Well, I'm just, I mean, I'm sure maybe, have you had a bad experience eating pussy?
	Is that why?
	I'm sorry, should I not say that?
	No, I did it a couple times when I was younger, but I quickly, I honestly, I wish I never did it.
	Was it unsanitized?
	No, it had nothing, it had absolutely nothing to do with that.
	There's nothing wrong with the pussy.
	Nothing wrong with the pussy.
	I actually learned at a very young age, somehow I discovered this in 2008.
	Maybe it was, I don't know exactly when.
	So the so HPV, men are experiencing very high incidence of throat and head cancer.
	And this is directly linked to HPV.
	And this is, so who's that famous actor?
	Was it Martin Sheen?
	Can you Google it?
	But a lot of men are getting throat in throat and head cancer.
	Yeah, they should have gotten the vaccine.
	Well, for the longest time, it wasn't recommended in men.
	It's only now recently that they've started recommending men get the HPV vaccine.
	So I'm not going to get.
	I mean, I already regret having done it those couple times when I was much younger, but yeah, I'm not getting throat cancer for your sexual gratification.
	Sorry.
	If that makes me high school and inexperienced, I ain't doing that shit.
	You're so sassy.
	So sassy.
	Nick, can you find it, please?
	He's married to.
	Trying to think of it.
	This guy got throat cancer.
	Famous.
	I think it's Martin Sheen.
	He got it from eating pussy?
	Yes.
	Is it higher percentage of men getting throat cancer than like a girl?
	Yeah.
	That's where Tony Montana got his famous scar as well.
	He got his famous scar from doing that.
	Damn.
	Like, is it actually more common in men?
	I'm genuinely curious.
	I think your wife isn't sleeping around, though.
	How would you like to see that?
	Does she have, like, doesn't it not show up on men like that?
	More women are vaccinated against it.
	And I don't know the exact breakdown, but it does seem to be this does seem to be manifesting itself more in men.
	Yeah.
	Michael Douglas.
	Was that the guy in Wall Street or what was that fucking movie?
	I don't know.
	One of these fucking famous actors.
	Can you put the chat probably knows?
	Can we just pull up the chat?
	Yeah, so that's where the real thing's happening.
	Yeah.
	I don't even want to read it.
	I know, right?
	But yeah, no, that's funny.
	And I got neck problems too, so you know, I'm not sure.
	I mean, you're entitled to your sexual boundaries, dude.
	It's fine.
	Yeah, I'm not trying to argue that you're wrong for that.
	I just.
	You literally were.
	I didn't have a huge hit.
	And this girl over here, it's so high.
	It seems a little high school.
	Like, that's something that I've got.
	Have you ever had anal sex?
	No.
	What if, okay.
	Have you ever had anal sex?
	I'm assuming this is yes, but a couple times.
	It's not really like my favorite.
	Okay.
	It's not like that.
	Has a guy ever asked you to have anal sex?
	Uh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's a mic.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Why didn't you want to have anal sex?
	Because I just don't want anything in my butt.
	Okay, cool.
	This is a no-no zone for me.
	Yeah.
	It's a sexual boundary, right?
	How would you feel if a guy didn't respect that boundary?
	Then it would technically be rape.
	So I don't know what I fucking mean, but okay.
	It's fair to have whatever boundary you have.
	It's totally fine.
	But I wasn't saying that was high school.
	I was just saying you guys, like, you say one thing, he agrees.
	But yeah.
	But he disagreed with that.
	No, no, is a complete sentence.
	I don't want to.
	He said something, and then I disagreed with him, and then we agreed on the things that we agree about.
	It's almost like it's adult conversation.
	I know, it's dare.
	It's like high school, though.
	I just wanted to know the reason.
	And now that I know the reason, that there's not like a oh, like pussy stank or some kind of like just wrong reason.
	How about the fact that women are promiscuous?
	And there's no scenario where I'm going to go down on a girl who there's a possibility she just fucked a guy the night before.
	How about that, too?
	Yeah, he's not wrong.
	Some guys may not want to go down on a chick as an armpit here.
	Exactly.
	Seems reasonable.
	What's the other?
	Sorry, guys, a whole bunch came through.
	I haven't been paying attention to it.
	Okay.
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	The cell with a 6 feet 7 inches, 270 pounds, 5% body fat prison daddy bear who starts you on hormones and pubic blockers.
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	Grizzly bear.
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	Honestly, I'm definitely dying if it's the grizzly bear.
	I probably will survive.
	I'd probably survive with the 6'7 dude, so I'm gonna survive.
	They're both pretty terrible, though.
	I love how tonight's thumbnail is essentially softcore corn with a highly sexualized edit with a girl's chest out.
	Oh, is this the fucking the right cornering?
	Whatever, dude.
	Hypocritical stuff, but not surprising.
	How is it hypocritical?
	Send another one in, dude.
	Actually, articulate how it's hypocritical.
	I don't even understand the argument here, but okay.
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	Probably only Mr. Yeast.
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	Respect men who have germ boundaries.
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	I think what is the threshold for I think I even took it out of as an option to do an Instagram rating.
	I don't think we even offer that.
	Yeah, we don't offer that.
	I mean, we'll do it for 500 if you want, but otherwise we're not gonna do a rating.
	Nikki, pull up Twitch.
	Oh wait, hold on.
	I thought they were talking about you, but then I realized he's correct.
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	We already read that with the highly sexual girls chest out hypocritical stuff, but not surprising.
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	Fat boy Andrew got stuffed in the locker all his child and adult life.
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	We like that boys, so y'all can chill on that.
	Okay, good to know.
	Andrew, look them out.
	Daddy's aware of that.
	All right.
	So on Twitch, we're going to.
	Oh, pull up Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv.
	I've never even been to prison, honey.
	Drop us a follow in the Prime sub, guys.
	Follow in the Prime sub, twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	And guys, it's been 17 minutes since we've had a Prime, so it's probably bugged.
	I don't know if somebody can test that out, but Viking, thank you for the Prime.
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	Guys, I think our Prime is bugged.
	Does anybody have a little Prime chat?
	A little Prime in the chat to let us know.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	And then, Nick, can you show the view count, guys?
	We're going to wrap up here pretty soon.
	Like the video, please, on your way out.
	We've got about 6,000 views on YouTube still.
	So if you guys can, just hit the like button, guys.
	We've got 6,000 watching.
	We have almost 3,000 likes.
	Get us to 3,000 likes before the end of the video helps out in the algorithm.
	Over on Twitch, who are we going to raid?
	We are going to raid.
	Oh, they changed up the.
	That's interesting.
	Oh, here it is.
	That's okay.
	There's woe, grandma.
	There's so wait, hold on.
	Hmm.
	There's Soda popping.
	We'll do Woe Grandma.
	We'll do well, Grandma.
	She's got...
	All right, we'll raid her in just a moment.
	Trying to see if there's anything.
	Yeah, I'll just wrap up the show here.
	So let's see.
	Last call to action, though.
	I'd like to end the show.
	I get a lot of flack from people on this.
	By seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you three, well, actually, maybe you two, a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely tonight?
	Why?
	Because I just said so.
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, I tried.
	See, guys, I tried.
	It was a noble cause.
	By the way, I like your haircut, Andrew.
	Did you get a haircut?
	Your hair looks a little different.
	How do you notice shit like that?
	I never noticed stuff like that.
	But yes, I did.
	I did get a haircut.
	I'm an attention to detail kind of guy.
	I know.
	Attention.
	Attention to detail kind of guy.
	It's good.
	Looks good.
	It's slicked back very well.
	You don't have any of those strays like I do right here.
	It's good.
	Well done.
	You guys are.
	That's cute.
	So no to the call to action.
	No, I'm not.
	I'm not quitting.
	Okay.
	I try.
	I try.
	So we are going to do a raid.
	We're going to raid Wo Grandma.
	She's 82.
	She plays World of Warcraft.
	Be nice over there, guys.
	I try to raid some smaller streamers at the end of my stream.
	So for a little love.
	We're going to get her on the dating talk eventually.
	She's got.
	Anyways, I'm going to send this out right now.
	It looks like she's about to do a raid or something.
	Looks like she's in a raid.
	Or no, she's just playing with her user interface.
	Oh, wait.
	I got it.
	Hold on.
	Actually, really quickly.
	I just got to do my outro shit.
	All right, GG, well played to the panel.
	Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	We have a very good panel on Tuesday, assuming no flakes and no shows like we had today.
	Excuse me.
	Yeah, and I got to apologize that I was late.
	I did let Brian know that that may happen.
	But should be in the clear on that now.
	I just had some stuff come up in the life that I had to take care of.
	So I want to apologize as I was scheduled tonight and I was late.
	And that's not anything that I ever really like to ever do.
	So sorry about that.
	Yeah, all good.
	Oh, wait.
	We have.
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	Abuela plays WoW.
	Used to, yes, I did.
	Oh, shit.
	What?
	Like classic?
	Yeah, old school.
	Like back in, you know, 97, 98, 99.
	Without well, whoa was like, wow.
	Whoa.
	That was like 2004, 2005, I think.
	Were you playing?
	What was the other?
	I forgot.
	Yeah, EverQuest.
	EverQuest, yeah.
	That's old school.
	Holy fuck.
	So EverQuest and then into WoW in the early 2000s.
	I stopped once I moved out to the world.
	EverQuest, that's OG.
	You did the old school EverQuest.
	That's it.
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	I'm trying to get our raid set up to you, Andrew.
	You're going to be streaming for a little bit after this.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Give me a sec.
	My computer's lagging here.
	I'm going to get you all set up.
	We have.
	Oh, my God.
	Fucking.
	Andrew, give us something here at the end.
	What's the last thing you want to talk about?
	Well, I appreciate everybody here at the panel turning out in the spirited debate.
	Even though you suck at it, you should probably quit immediately.
	But other than that, right, it was a fun panel.
	I don't take any of this stuff personally.
	I hope you guys don't either.
	I thought it was a fun exchange back and forth.
	Hope to see all of you back.
	Female comedians are not funny.
	There's nothing you're ever going to be able to do to change my mind as long as you live.
	You just can't, it can't be done.
	What if I whip out my dick?
	Will that be funny then?
	See what I mean?
	He's just not the audience.
	It was bad.
	It was terrible.
	You had the opportunity of a lifetime to go out on the woman.
	It was a fail.
	I was listening.
	I was trying to, you know, adhere to your personal preference.
	So I was, if I had a penis, would I then be funny?
	Yeah, but seeing what I mean, right?
	You proved my point.
	It was preference and my penis.
	Yeah, it was as far as comedians.
	Wait, we.
	Wait, can you pull up Wo, Grandma?
	I guess I accidentally raided her.
	What's happening there?
	I guess I rated her before.
	Oh, damn.
	I didn't mean to send it over early, but okay, I guess we rated her.
	She usually has late reactions.
	It is a whatever raid.
	Oh, there it is.
	Just in time.
	All right.
	Boom.
	Look at that.
	She's doing a raid.
	She's playing.
	What the?
	Get him, Grandma.
	Get like Branny.
	I know you guys keep saying that.
	Yeah.
	Anyways, okay, there she is.
	She's doing a raid in retail.
	She's playing retail.
	Cool.
	Show her some love, guys.
	Be nice, like I said.
	I said.
	Anyways, what was the other thing we had to do?
	Oh, I had one last by one last, I mean like three last questions.
	So, all right, here we go.
	Let's see.
	Hold on, guys.
	I got to pull this up.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm just going to be a goblin because fuck it.
	Tonight's panel was ridiculous.
	Who's the primary victim of war, men or women?
	Who's starting with you?
	This is the victim thing that I don't like, but I guess men.
	Men?
	Men.
	Definitely men.
	Okay.
	But no war was created by women, so.
	Well, that's not true at all.
	That's not true at all.
	It's not true at all.
	That's why men are the victims.
	We're the ones that start the wars and then they have to finish them.
	Well, I don't know.
	We usually want to go back to England times, you know, in the monarchy.
	Like, there's plenty of women that were in power who have started wars and they were more violent than the men.
	Nick, can you Google kings or queens like more likely to start war?
	So my understanding is they did an analysis.
	Queens were more likely than kings to go to war.
	Yeah, violence.
	Probably trying to really assert their dominance, just like female police officers can be a little bit correctional officers and all that stuff.
	I was a cool correctional officer.
	Just FYM.
	But yes.
	What you're saying guards.
	The prison guards that are women, like they say that they're way more harsh.
	39% points more likely to engage in a war in a given year compared to polities ruled by kings.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait, Nick, there's a QZ article.
	Or no, there's an economist.
	Do you see the Economist article?
	Yeah, so it says over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 20...
	It's not going to show the whole thing.
	It just says were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings.
	There's a bunch of articles that seem to cite this 27% number.
	So yeah, let's see what else.
	Can you be sexist towards men?
	No?
	What about you?
	No.
	No?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, definitely.
	So wait, you guys said no.
	Well, I'm on the side of the prejudice and power thing in this argument.
	With all of it.
	Obviously, you can't.
	Okay, another five minutes.
	Oh, Lord.
	Literal definition.
	It's Misandre.
	And then, so what's your reason?
	Well, actually, I guess you can be, but I wouldn't want to be.
	No, no, no.
	That wasn't the question.
	The question is, not like.
	Can, in general, people, women, can you be racist towards men?
	Sexist.
	Sexist.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I'm like.
	Sexist.
	So yours is the prejudice.
	So can you be racist towards white people?
	No?
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Let's go into this for just five minutes.
	Can you explain it a little bit?
	I see what y'all are saying.
	Like, I've experienced racism growing up like in a predominantly black area and going to a very much predominantly black school and where I was in a minority, but I'm not over here crying the white girl tears.
	Like, because historically and just with everything, I'm not the oppressed one.
	It's like I said, it has to be their own.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I totally agree.
	Argument completely conceded.
	You conceded your own argument immediately.
	You just said that you experienced racism while you were at a black school.
	That's the end of that.
	Checkmate.
	I think that it was.
	It's quite different, I think, than racism.
	Did you experience racism while you were at this predominantly black school or something?
	On a societal level, but this was my experience in a small area.
	And also, we're talking about a group of people that have been so mistreated and taken advantage of and so prejudice is power, right?
	It's power plus prejudice equals racism.
	So when you were the minority in a black school, you experienced racism.
	That's the end of that.
	Thanks.
	Okay.
	Fassy.
	That means that black people can be racist towards white people, right?
	Well, I guess.
	But they could, but it's a matter of fact.
	I mean, you could argue they are.
	I would say it was valid.
	I would say it was very valid for them to feel the way that they do based on what they have been through, what their generations before them and their family lineage have friggin'.
	You deserved it.
	Was it good for you?
	They were just children.
	deserve it.
	They were just children who have been experiencing a lot of, I'm sure that they experienced way more racism than I did though.
	But that's not what we're talking about.
	You deserved it?
	like there's kids bully kids and whether it's racist or did you deserve for them to be racist towards you or not were you doing something that no no no hold on answer the question Did I deserve it?
	Not me personally.
	I don't think.
	Yeah, so you didn't deserve it, and they were racist towards you, and you were the minority, and they had the institutional power, and so therefore, whites can experience racism from blacks, right?
	Yeah, but I'm not hurting from it in the same way.
	What does that have to do with anything?
	I'm too tired to talk about that.
	I'm really too tired for this, and a little bit hungover and jet lagged.
	But I'm a little tired and hungover.
	I'm not jet lagged, but you can't seen people be racist towards my husband.
	He's white, and I've seen it with my own eyes, and I'm a person of color, and it's, you know, it goes both ways.
	It goes both ways.
	I mean, validation.
	This is just my personal opinion on it.
	Like, I'm an agreeable person, you know.
	I see.
	Get your 25s and we're going to wrap.
	Any further thoughts on this, Andrew?
	Yeah, well, I'm just trying to explain to you that both ways here, your ideology has to be wrong.
	Either way, one, that your ideology is wrong, is that you started out by saying I've experienced racism when I was in a predominantly black school where I was the minority.
	But then he went on to say, well, but I think that racism can really only be prejudice plus power.
	But if you're the only minority in that school, or one of the few minorities in that school, then the power would go over to these other people who were not the minorities at the school.
	So if that's the case, that's still prejudice plus power by your criteria.
	So both ways, whites can experience racism, right?
	Theoretically, yes.
	And the racism is that.
	Well, this can't be theoretical because it happened.
	The racism they showed toward me in this one small little example in this little scenario did not have an effect on like everything to do with my life and my grandparents and like segregation and all this stuff.
	I see.
	So if that's the case.
	I wasn't hurt by it.
	I was like, okay, I've been bullied.
	You know what?
	It didn't have a long-term lasting effect on you.
	I get it.
	But let me ask you this.
	Yeah, yeah, let me ask you this, though.
	If you didn't deserve it, which is what you're saying, it must have had some effect on you because you remember that you didn't deserve it.
	Right?
	I said, yeah, me personally, it's not like I was the one, like I did not live in the slave-owning days or do any shit like that.
	Right.
	So, I mean, you didn't deserve that.
	But let us assume for a second it made all of those people who were racist towards you feel better.
	Do you think they should have been racist towards you?
	It makes them feel better.
	Yeah.
	I mean, if it makes them feel better, I really don't mind being someone's punching bag.
	Perfect.
	You have justified anti-black racism by whites.
	Dingy.
	Good job.
	You just justified it, saying as they could do it, because it makes them feel better.
	Well, the white people are still doing it to them.
	So.
	Yeah, but it's okay because it makes them feel better.
	It's even.
	How's it even?
	If more white people feel better, because there's more white people than there are black people, and it makes them feel better, then by your logic, they should be able to.
	Generational trauma and like are oppressed as shit.
	Yeah, they're not the ones that are hurting from it.
	So we as white people aren't feeling better by being racist.
	I just want to point out one thing here.
	History shows that white people were slaves much longer than black people.
	Yeah, and I'm actually between like 1500 and 1750, there were like millions and millions of white slaves.
	Yeah, I just said, I mean, our ancestors, my ancestors for sure were.
	I did a 23andMe, but so.
	Anyways, final thing on this, Andrew?
	Otherwise, I do want to try to get things right.
	Yeah, so I'm just saying the final thing.
	You might want to re-evaluate whether or not people should be able to be racist towards you because it makes them feel better.
	That seems like a really bad position, which would actually justify you.
	I'll give you the last word.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	Calm down.
	You might want to re-evaluate it.
	You don't seem calm.
	But yeah, anyway, you might want to re-evaluate that because you'll end up justifying racism.
	That's what you'll end up doing, right?
	You want to final word or final word.
	Go ahead.
	Do you want to find a word?
	I'm saying that all that stuff, it wasn't that long ago.
	So the detention is still there, and I think that we're moving away from racism.
	And I think that's a great thing.
	I'm not trying to justify racism.
	I simply said I think racism is more of a prejudice.
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	Was that a roast?
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	Brian, check out the examples used on the women's rating guide in about section of Subredditar slash.
	Trueratim rating as a metric of rating looks more objectively.
	They cover all ethnicities.
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	Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep?
	At this point I think he's gone.
	I don't know.
	He's gone man sorry, sorry.
	Stacy Black Phoenix donated twenty five dollars.
	Try to replay it.
	We are not the sins of our fathers.
	Why would I punish or think lower of you when you had nothing to do with it?
	Stop living in the past you didn't live in, Okay.
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	State-sanctioned genocide on U.S. soil against whites.
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	Purple L yet again.
	Just saw you like black guys.
	Geez.
	Just say.
	I think he meant to say just say.
	And then while you're gone, Andrew, this one from Stacey came through.
	Stacy for Senate donated $25.
	Andrew, is she savable or is the indoctrination too deep at this point?
	Too deep.
	All right.
	With that said, I want to do another quick thank you to the panel.
	Ripped Rich and Rare donated $25.
	Fat boy doesn't compete in blood sports.
	More like milk squirts.
	Pull up your shirt and tell me you're fucking proud of that shit.
	Big old titties.
	Tits.
	Lactation.
	Oh, my God.
	They're really going after you, Andrew.
	What happened?
	Sounds like he likes to go after me.
	They're going after Andrew.
	Oh, Andrew.
	Poor Andrew.
	Well, they're upset that I don't shave my arms.
	That's what, yeah, it's the arms?
	Yeah, they're pretty upset.
	Apparently, real men shave their arms, apparently.
	All right, guys, like the video, please.
	And go to prison.
	And they go to prison, too.
	All right, guys.
	That's what I'm told.
	Thank you guys for tuning in.
	We're going to do a raid over to Andrew.
	Drop him a follow.
	Let me just get this chat.
	Drop him a subscribe over there on YouTube.
	Old Man Marine donated $25.
	Purple hair, this is your dazzling.
	Have I not taught you that two wrongs don't make a right?
	SMH, you'll get your spankings when you come home.
	There it is.
	All right.
	Cool.
	All right, guys.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	We're going to raid Andrew over there on YouTube.
	Drop him a subscribe.
	07's in the chat.
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm frazzled.
	It's a long show.
	Okay.
	Good night, guys.

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