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The Most INSANE Show Ever?! FERAL CHAOS PANEL?! 2+2≠4?! She EXTORTS Men?! N SLIP? | Dating Talk #169

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	Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast.
	We had a little slip, so we had to restart things.
	So I'm going to consolidate the intro here.
	I'm your host, Brian Atlas.
	Thanks for tuning in tonight.
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	For the sake of time, I'm going to skip through the rest of the introduction.
	Disclaimer: the views expressed by the guests do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel.
	With that said, and without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	Please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, my name is Danielle.
	Everyone calls me Dee.
	I am from New Jersey.
	I have an apartment there, and I also have an apartment in New York City.
	I am the CEO of the Foot Fetish Place.
	We have a location in Midtown, Manhattan, and we are also locating to our second location in New Jersey.
	And I am a journalism major.
	All right, welcome.
	Hi there, I'm Desiree Noel.
	I'm a sex and relationship coach and a self-help author and a single mom of three here in SoCal.
	Born and raised on the streets and educated at UC Irvine and California Baptist University.
	So I'm ready to go.
	Age.
	Age.
	You don't ask a woman that.
	I graduated high school in 2004.
	I'll say that.
	Well, I'm about to ask a woman that.
	What's your age?
	You can't do math.
	38.
	There you go.
	Bingo.
	Dang, that's good.
	Girl, you look good.
	She went quick.
	Hi, I'm Alex.
	I'm a multimedia artist and a creative advisor and consultant, as well as I do a few nights at the end.
	And I am 26.
	All right, welcome.
	Hi, my name is Emily.
	I am 18 years old, and I am from a small town called Perump, Nevada.
	And I am unemployed, but I'm working on becoming a tattoo artist.
	Did you say Perump?
	Nevada?
	Okay.
	Isn't that where there's like legal brothels?
	I don't know.
	I just moved there, but it's like right outside of Vegas.
	Okay, got it.
	Are you in college?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	My name is Ashley Paola.
	I'm 29 years old.
	I'm from Inland Empire.
	I am in the sales industry in the medical field.
	I'm also a certified body sculptor and a podcaster.
	Hi, my name is Jessica.
	I'm 25 years old.
	I live in Hawthorne.
	I am a full-time student, a full-time mom.
	I'm also a certified Lash Tuck, and I just got certified as a nutrition coach.
	Congratulations.
	Go ahead.
	Hello, my name is Kishwan Clark.
	I'm 30 years old, and I'm from San Diego.
	So right now, I'm actually a waitress at a high-end resort, and I'm also studying to become a personal trainer.
	All right, welcome.
	Thank you.
	My name is Madison.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm from San Diego, California.
	I'm a full-time student at Santa Barbara City College studying communication, and I also work for the Whatever Podcast.
	All right, welcome, everybody.
	And then, without further ado, my Caucasian Andrew Wilson, take it away.
	Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.
	I'm the host of The Crucible.
	I'm a political satirist, a political analyst, and I also enjoy doing some debating from time to time.
	Good to have you, Andrew, and thank you for bringing that to our attention.
	It's good that we figured that out sooner rather than later.
	So, thank you, Andrew.
	Going around the table once more, what is everybody's current relationship status?
	So, are you single, relationship, married, polycule, harem, sex cult, situationship, friends with benefits, whatever it may be.
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I am single, ready to mingle.
	My longest relationship has been 13 years.
	From what age to what age?
	From 14 to about last year, 2022.
	Wait, and you said you've been single for how long?
	We broke up.
	He was in jail.
	And then he was like, Oh, go do your own thing.
	But then, like, he got mad about it.
	And then we got back together when he got out, but he was really with the CEO.
	So, there's a little like mix of so we were together 10 years, then I found out between the three years.
	So, we could say 10 or we could say 13.
	Wait, what year did you graduate from high school?
	12.
	12, okay.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Relationship status?
	So, I am, I guess you would call me single.
	I had about a 10-year relationship, a typical marriage, you know, the whole thing.
	Had my kids with that guy.
	We got divorced five years ago, so I left him, and then I now am all of the above.
	I don't agree to, I just go with the flow.
	I go with the coochie flow, you could say.
	I do whatever I want.
	What does that mean?
	It just means that I basically allow partners or men to prove themselves to me.
	So, I don't agree to monogamy.
	I don't agree to any sort of structure of a relationship.
	I just go out and have the connections and things that I desire.
	And then I let men, if they would like to try to be a husband or something to me, I basically give them the price of that, whether that's with how much time I want of them, how much sex I want, how much money I want.
	I just put it to each men and I allow them to kind of rise to the top with whatever ones have a more what you would consider a dating relationship with me or a sexual relationship or a friends with benefits.
	I just kind of leverage and get my needs met.
	When you say leverage, what do you mean?
	Basically, the same way that you would do business negotiations.
	So, a man comes to me and let's say he wants to take me out.
	And I read vibes very well.
	So, I know that that means I would like to take you to dinner.
	I would like to give you some drinks.
	I would like to take you back and have sex with you.
	So, if I know that that's what he's coming at me with, I set the price for judging on his character, where he's at in life, his vibe, the whole thing.
	I say, okay, if that's what you want from me, then it's going to cost you my rent this month.
	Let's say he's a very kind of low-vibe guy, and I read that, and it's not somebody I would really want to have a relationship with, but I need my rent paid, and I got a little bit of time.
	So, I give him that price.
	He either agrees to it, and I go on the date with him, and then I never agree to doing anything sexual with people unless that's what my body wants to do at the real time.
	So, I make that clear to the man, go to the dinner with him, he paid my rent, let's say, and let's say I'm not feeling it.
	I say, thank you very much.
	I had a great time.
	You got your couple hours with me.
	You got to have a nice conversation.
	I probably gave you some great ideas for your business.
	I gave you some great ideas for moving forward, and you have a nice day.
	Or all the way to, I really like the guy, good quality man.
	I ask him to take me to ice cream, and then I sleep with him whenever I want to sleep with him.
	That type of thing.
	So it just depends on what you're bringing me.
	And so you said that the price for that is your rent.
	No, it just depends on the man.
	SoCal rent or Texas rent?
	It's $2,700 SoCal rent.
	Okay, so for a man to spend a night with you, the cost is $2,700.
	It just depends on the man.
	Some men are my friends, and I like having sex with them, and I feel safe with them, and they might bring me a burrito and we fuck.
	If I can say that.
	Some men, like I said, their vibration, their energy is very kind of toxic and low vibration.
	And that's my test.
	It's kind of like women test men, right?
	So however we do it, we all do it.
	We see how much attention he's going to give us.
	We see how available he is or not.
	We see if he lives with his mother.
	We see if he has a D. How much does it cost if he lives with his mom?
	Does it cost more or less?
	Like, do you do charity?
	Like, okay, so I'll give you an example.
	I'll give you an example.
	So I have all these guys in their 20s sliding into my DMs and they want to go out with me.
	So what I'm doing is I understand this is not a man I'm going to sleep with.
	This is not a man I'm ever going to think of as a husband.
	But you know what?
	I like that he shot his shot.
	And you know what?
	This guy with where he's at in life, logically, he needs to be going and getting himself like a single mom stripper.
	And so I think logically, okay, let me help raise this man up.
	And what I say is, I just did this, 27-year-old man.
	I could tell, maybe he has an apartment or some roommates.
	Maybe he lives with his parents, but he's at that phase of life.
	You can't afford a woman like me.
	So I agree to, what can he afford?
	He could afford to take me to lunch.
	So I say, listen, I'll meet you for lunch.
	My son needs new summer clothes, like summer shorts.
	How about this?
	I'll meet you for lunch.
	You can have me for like two hours.
	And we can just, on Amazon right there, you can order my son the stuff he wants because you need to practice providing for that child of that single mom that's at your level.
	So let me help you practice.
	And then I'm going to even coach you through how to have eyes for the woman that you're qualified to be with right now.
	And then I tell him she's a stripper.
	She's a stripper at a strip club.
	She's a single mom.
	She probably has one little kid.
	And these are the things that you want to look for of being able to tell the good women versus the toxic just strippers who are just career strippers and they're just working you for their money because there's signs of how to know.
	There's signs of how to tell a good woman, even if she's in a non-traditional profession, there are signs there.
	So I will coach this young man through that.
	That in and of itself is literally worth thousands of dollars of my consulting time as a therapist, as a professional.
	I agreed to do it for a lunch and maybe a hundred bucks of buying my son his summer clothes.
	Now, if he agrees to it, what a brilliant freaking guy.
	If he doesn't, we don't go on the date.
	He loses it.
	So that's how I do it.
	You mentioned low vibration.
	So what is a low vibration?
	Okay, so a low, so we are all actually vibrating energy.
	We are not solid form.
	We are literally atoms.
	We are a cluster of atoms that appears to be solid, but there is space in between each atom and it's vibrating, right?
	So what we are calling emotion, that's an energetic vibrational frequency.
	So shame carries a particular frequency, for example.
	And the thing is, we have not been taught how to properly process or handle any of these more difficult feeling emotions.
	Think when you get embarrassed and your cheeks flush.
	It has a physical effect on our body, these different emotions, right?
	So we have not been taught that it's okay to feel shame or embarrassment.
	So when it comes, it's supposed to just correct us.
	It's supposed to say, hey, you might want to put a sweatshirt on.
	I'm going to say that you attract your vibration.
	Exactly.
	So when I say that.
	I know that you're attracting these low vibration men because you're low vibration.
	No, you can't control the energy coming at you.
	What you can control is which energy you allow into your close space.
	So when these low vibration guys come, so they're stuck in their childhood issues.
	So they are stuck in shame.
	They are stuck in fear.
	They are stuck in scarcity.
	They are stuck in pride, ego, all of this.
	So it makes a low vibration because these things are literally weighing them down.
	No, I get that.
	But if they're in low vibration, that's how I test.
	I pay him.
	They can only attract low vibration.
	Exactly.
	So if he's coming at me and I'm essentially inviting him to raise his vibration, I'm inviting him to trust a healthy woman who knows him, can see through him, and can raise him.
	Because of his logic, he would only be able to attract you.
	If you were a healthy woman, he would only be able to attract you if he was healthy.
	But because he's not healthy, he's attracting you.
	No, no, because he's unhealthy, he says no to the deal.
	If he was willing to step up and be a little bit healthier, he would agree to the deal.
	If you're high vibration, why would you agree to that deal?
	I didn't agree to it.
	I'm not going to lower it.
	Because I have the wisdom over the years to know how high to set the price.
	So that's how I weed the men out.
	Okay, okay.
	So this guy, for example, he was so low vibration.
	He wasn't even willing to spend $150 to spend an afternoon with a woman like me.
	Right?
	That's some low vibe shit.
	No, I was going to say $150 on a first date is kind of wild.
	Well, when you get to my level, that's nothing.
	Normal first dates for me are thousands of dollars.
	That's insane.
	That's not really what's happening.
	Usually it's like free to go to the people's time.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It is a first date.
	You're getting to know the person.
	This isn't like you're my girlfriend.
	I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on you.
	But here's the thing.
	When you're an expert psychoanalyst, you don't need that.
	You know the person instantly.
	So I have that gift.
	I don't need all this time to get to know a man.
	I don't need it.
	I know right away.
	Almost like what you would think of as a psychic, right into you, right away.
	I know exactly what you got going on because I'm such a master at the human psyche.
	I'm very educated.
	Again, I'm not a typical woman walking around.
	I can coach women through some basic skills.
	You don't have to be my level.
	But it's street smarts.
	You read vibes.
	You don't read what they say.
	You're reading between the lines, ladies, and that's how you do the choosing.
	These guys are marketing.
	They're using sleazy marketing tactics to sell you some shit.
	Don't buy that shit.
	Read the vibe.
	Excuse me, I'm not sure if you're a single person.
	They're buying.
	What if he doesn't have the skills that you have?
	And he can't.
	Then I'm not his girl.
	Then you might be his girl or you might be his girl.
	I'm definitely not his girl.
	Right?
	But you see what I'm saying?
	There's plenty of variety out there.
	But why don't you just go for a man that's on your caliber?
	Like, what's the point?
	I know, but what's the point of entertaining these guys that you know are.
	It's a business.
	I don't entertain them.
	But you do.
	You allow them to take you out on dates and pay for your son's class.
	No, you didn't understand.
	He didn't accept, so I didn't go.
	But if he did accept, why entertain that?
	That's that's a pitiful man.
	I don't even know what to do.
	He sent me to his fucking basketball shorts.
	I know, but that's what a job is for.
	That is my job.
	Or you go for a good man that can afford your son and is okay with you having other children that he could take care of you and I think you're missing the point.
	I'm a consultant and a sex and relationship coach.
	This is my business.
	Okay, well, we're talking in dating.
	Yeah, but we're talking like we're talking in.
	I run my dating life as my business.
	Kill two birds.
	So there you go.
	Win-win.
	I make my money dating.
	In a sense.
	I make my money dating.
	And then, like right now, one of my clients, he's the husband with benefits type of guy.
	He pays my bills if I need.
	He takes me on nice trips.
	We talk to each other.
	He helps me with business connections.
	He gets what he wants.
	And I get.
	Can you explain for me?
	Because I've been listening for a little bit how you would distinguish yourself from a prostitute.
	It's honestly not.
	It's the same type of energy exchange.
	We call it whatever you want.
	I have no taboo about it.
	We're all doing that.
	You're going to your job, clocking in, clocking out, doing something that you don't necessarily want to do.
	Guess what I get to do?
	I only do things I want to do.
	So that sounds like a sugar relationship then.
	I mean, we can call it, you can call it whatever you want.
	It doesn't matter.
	It's just an energy exchange, and that's how you do it.
	And honestly, if you think about it, this is how we do everything in life.
	Everything's a negotiation.
	Here's my energy.
	What are you willing to give me in exchange for this energy?
	But you say you're like a dating and relationship coach, right?
	So how is it that you're going about having shallow interactions, like looking at a transaction?
	There's nothing shallow about me.
	There's nothing.
	There's a relationship dating expert with me.
	That's not love.
	That's a business.
	I'm not operating on love.
	I'm operating on a business.
	And if I fall in love and doing my business, like I have friends, like I said, I have friends with benefits.
	I love them.
	They love me.
	There's no money exchange.
	There's energy.
	There's whatever.
	But when I have strangers that I've never met, this is my testing process.
	I'm going to treat you like this is a job.
	This is my profession.
	If you agree and you pass my test and you show me you're a good man, then guess what?
	Things change.
	I have a question.
	I'm not disagreeing.
	I'm just trying to understand and process everything.
	I think we all are.
	What if he is trying to distinguish you as well?
	I don't play that fucking game.
	I have nothing to prove.
	I have the pussy.
	No, no, no.
	Like, he, like, he's, no, but yeah.
	Okay.
	It's true, girls.
	It's our commodity.
	Like, your body is your most priceless commodity.
	Why do we think your body is the most priceless commodity?
	It is.
	100%.
	It creates life.
	100%.
	Oh, of course.
	It creates life.
	Without my body, this human population wouldn't continue.
	So, what's going to happen when you're 80 and nobody is going to be in my pussy game?
	Or you can't do it.
	Okay, medically.
	What if medically you can't?
	Because that happens.
	I work with seniors and there's a lot of seniors that can't.
	I got a hand.
	I got a mouth.
	I have nobody to actually die alone.
	I'm not going to die alone.
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm surrounded by people who love me.
	No, but you're talking about children.
	Like, your own hand is not the same as a man that actually loves you and holding you and being around you.
	I have those guys who love me.
	I don't take care of a 99-year-old man and he had all the money.
	Billionaire.
	Yeah.
	No, he never got married.
	Never had kids.
	So when he died, the money went to his fourth cousin that he never met.
	His wraparound terror penthouse in New York City went to the state.
	It went to the state.
	It didn't go to his family.
	It was going to go to the state.
	It went to the fourth cousin because they found someone that was.
	That's pretty sad.
	Yeah, but that's so good.
	You don't even have any children to bring that money down to.
	They could just take that money and start businesses.
	So imagine there's a bunch of these guys out here, ladies, who are just looking for companionship.
	They're honestly just looking for companionship because they thought that life was about money.
	So they spent their whole lives chasing money only to end up realizing I just actually want companionship.
	So when I say pussy, what I'm really meaning is feminine energy.
	Feminine energy is so valuable.
	And at the end of the day, men, if you bring them healthy, authentic feminine energy, which guess what? Takes their ego down a notch sometimes because taking a man's ego down is actually helping his soul emerge.
	So he rises up as being a better man if he handles that well.
	If he gets all egotistical about it and doesn't listen.
	Alyssa wants Brian's small donated $200.
	Hey, Brian, the single mom from last show has been blasting igg stories and she says she would smash you your dead bod.
	Would you?
	Yeah, I saw that.
	Also, would any of you ladies have carnal knowledge of Brian?
	So, first off, it's not small, it's average.
	Get it right.
	Secondly, look, she's very nice.
	I always appreciate people who offer pushback.
	It makes for an interesting show.
	And I think we would like to get her back on eventually.
	From a dating perspective, look, she's an attractive woman, ex-stripper, XOF girl, two kids, in the middle of a divorce, argumentative.
	Kink history, I'm not cool with.
	She domed a male.
	If it wasn't for all that, maybe.
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	And I guess they're asking if you guys would date me, basically.
	Carnal knowledge, date me.
	I'm pretty much the same.
	So we'll start over here with you.
	If I would date you?
	Yeah, if you date me.
	You're not my typical type.
	I'd like athletic men.
	If I'm being honest, I like.
	I gotta lose weight.
	She's not wrong.
	I gotta lose a little weight.
	I gotta lose a little weight.
	Because I work at it all the time.
	If I have to go to the gym constantly and have my body looking right and tight, I expect my man to do the same.
	I got a dumpy, though.
	Does that change anything?
	If you got a fat ass, that's good.
	Does that change anything?
	Right, Madison?
	No.
	Yeah, Madison.
	Sure.
	No, I don't know.
	You always bring it up, Madison.
	Oh, but your face is getting red.
	Look how red your face is.
	Your face is getting red.
	They bring it up.
	I bring it up.
	So I'm just saying, guys, feminine energy.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Same.
	I go to the gym a lot and just to get into my head.
	Guys, I got to lose a weight.
	These girls talk.
	Oh, dad, it's fake news, boys.
	It is.
	I'd say it all the time.
	I don't think so.
	You're not my usual type.
	Yeah.
	You know?
	Like white?
	I guess, yeah.
	I've never dated one white guy.
	Well, he's really Italian.
	But yeah, no, I don't think so.
	It's hard out here.
	No.
	Not really.
	You know?
	She's going to test you out.
	You know, Brian, to be honest with you, what's so sexy is if a man can handle me going head to head with his ego.
	That's so sexy.
	So actually, I have hope for you because you did come back and apologize.
	I could tell you genuinely tried to do it the best you could.
	I understand you're under a lot of pressure.
	This is probably your livelihood.
	You make money doing this.
	And I understand the dynamic.
	So, yes or no?
	Yeah, I would say I would give you a chance.
	Oh, look at that.
	And I would even submit to you if you were willing, if you were willing to let me dom that little ego that pops out once in a while, I would be your baby girl.
	And cover him up.
	That's my thing.
	I'm a baby girl.
	I'm a baby girl, but only to a true daddy who always undersells and over-delivers.
	Is it my turn?
	Go.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I would.
	Oh, no, no.
	Me, too.
	I just haven't.
	I just don't know you enough.
	I want to go home.
	I just need to ask you.
	I just need to ask you: are you under the influence of anything?
	No, I'm just excited.
	I've been on the airplane for six hours.
	And you did put her on blast.
	She's nervous, poor thing.
	No, even before that, there's like this deadness in the eyes.
	Yeah.
	It's just that's associated with people who typically are on narcotics.
	She offered me the sativa, and she didn't take it.
	She didn't take it.
	I didn't have the drink.
	And I gave her a drink.
	Did you drink?
	Are you sober?
	I drank as much as you took two sips of her coffee.
	I should ask on the other side.
	I've been in the two-hour car ride.
	Okay, so you're tired.
	You're tired.
	I didn't sleep last night.
	I got on a plane last night.
	When did you wake up?
	5 a.m. Eastern time, correct?
	5 a.m. Eastern time.
	I sleep last night.
	That's like 2 a.m. Pacific time.
	I packed, got on a plane.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	She's tired.
	She's tired, and there's energy.
	She's tired.
	She's not on drugs.
	Okay, Andrew.
	All right.
	By the way, everybody else, I apologize.
	Some messages came through, but the moderation delay was on.
	So I'm going to do them really quick.
	Then we're going to get everybody's relationship status.
	We'll come back to a lot of the stuff that you said.
	Doc Venezuela donated to the city.
	Sorry for the delay, Doc.
	I apologize.
	Brixon, Shhthe has a speech impediment.
	Shthi means 304 vibration.
	Amazing grift to turn sex work into, seemingly leg work.
	You receive 1099s or skip the two?
	Behold the height of narcissism.
	Hmm.
	I think that was directed at you, maybe.
	I could be wrong.
	So I guess is the question: do I pay taxes?
	I don't know what the question is.
	Do you do like 10, do you get 1099s?
	Yeah, I pay my taxes just like anybody else.
	I have an S Corporation, so my OnlyFans business obviously gets, and I wrote my book, so all my book royalties go to my S corporate.
	But like, you said that the guys who you choose to sleep with, they have to pay your rent, which is $2,700.
	No, no, no.
	I'm not saying they have to.
	I'm simply saying if it's a man.
	Is it like under the table, or are you like reporting that on 1099s?
	Like, are you sending them 1099s?
	Like, do you get W-9s from them and then send them a 1099?
	Do you do that when your grandma sends you a Christmas gift?
	Oh.
	But I thought this is your like work, right?
	I mean, it's no different than if you go buy your weed at one of these places where you have to, you can only do it by donation and it has to be a gift, right?
	It's loopholes.
	Oh, they still have to report that to the audience.
	It's loopholes.
	It's loopholes.
	I'm pretty sure they still have to.
	Wait.
	If it's a certain amount, but to be honest, my income is very low.
	You have to send it.
	If it's over $600, you have to send it to the bank.
	But if I had a crush on you and I want to send it to you.
	But here's the thing.
	No, because here's the thing.
	I get these guys to co-sign for me.
	So, for example, this guy who might pay my rent, he co-signed for it.
	So it's his apartment too, technically.
	For a month.
	Oh.
	For a month.
	You get someone to do that on the first date.
	I highly doubt that.
	What?
	Someone.
	No, no, no.
	This would be guys that I already have had a free establishment.
	We'll get into it in a bit.
	Maddie, can you read these three chats just while we have them here and then we'll get relationship status?
	Does this woman realize she's admitting to the world she's willing to prostitute for a burrito?
	What kind of tests do these men need to do when they're done with this varlet?
	Yeah.
	I don't know what the question is.
	Like, do you make them take like an SAT test or like LSAT?
	We have conversations just like anybody else.
	I don't know.
	Like an okay.
	I don't know.
	This one, Maddie?
	So, in other words, rather than working on and saving her marriage, she decided to go from loyal wife to single 304, putting her own needs in front of your own children.
	So sad, I feel for the children.
	Well, guess what?
	Dad only made $35,000 a year with a family of five.
	And guess what?
	This guy was so controlling and insecure, he wouldn't let me work.
	So you do the math.
	I needed to leave in order to make a better life for my children.
	And I picked doing work that allowed me to be home safely raising my own kids.
	And I'm a sexy soul, so I'm very comfortable doing these things.
	And I would have been doing it anyway for free.
	So might as well get my bills paid to only family.
	Doing work for free?
	Hold on.
	I would be going on dates or having sex with people or having conversations with people.
	While you were married?
	Shit.
	Well, I had my first marriage where we had agreed to monogamy.
	We were Christians and we had the whole typical setup.
	So I never would have done that in my marriage.
	You've been married multiple times.
	And then my second time, I tried it again and we did a non-traditional thing.
	So I didn't do it legally.
	We were not, I never agreed to monogamy.
	We had an open relationship.
	So you got married in a church?
	The first time.
	Not in the church.
	But you said you were married a second time.
	The second time we had our own ceremony and we did it our own way.
	It was non-traditional because I wasn't going to agree to any of that anymore.
	It just didn't fit me.
	How many kids do you have?
	I have three children.
	I had them with my husband, my first husband.
	Yeah.
	They all have the same dad.
	You said he was making $35K?
	$35,000.
	What was he doing for work?
	He's like a grunt at a law firm.
	He does plumbing.
	He's illegal?
	No, he does plumbing.
	He's like their bitch.
	He does electrical.
	He's a plumber at a law firm?
	He's just a jack-of-all-trade that was like...
	Like a handyman?
	Yeah, kind of like a handyman.
	He would do some IT stuff for them.
	Like, you know, he's a very smart jack of all trades guy, but his level of worthiness was so low that he was never working himself up in life.
	I even went and worked at Cal Baptist full-time, even though I didn't want to, so that he could go to college for free.
	And instead of.
	He didn't let you work.
	Huh?
	I thought you said he wouldn't let you work.
	He wouldn't.
	I went and did, I disobeyed, you could say.
	I disobeyed and got this job because I was like, look, you can go to college for free.
	I'll be a secretary.
	I moved my mom out from Colorado to watch the kids.
	So I was supporting my own mother because she needed a job anyway.
	And I was trying to provide a way for this man to get a college education so he could provide better for him.
	I literally did everything I could.
	Technically, it wasn't that controlling if you were able to do that.
	Well, no, but he was so mean to me because I got the job.
	I only lasted three months because the marriage got so difficult because I had disobeyed and he wasn't okay with it.
	So I had to leave the job and then we're back to being home.
	Let's back up a little bit if you don't.
	You can keep it for a time.
	How exactly did you disobey when you're flying your mom out and all of this?
	He must have consented to at least some of that.
	He had to have, right?
	You can't just stop with your mom at like one o'clock.
	My mom was homeless.
	He was going to sneak you out here into the house without him knowing.
	You didn't do that.
	No, my mom was basically homeless.
	So she was just basically couch surfing around in Arizona.
	And I didn't fly her out.
	I had her drive out and I asked her, Can you watch the kids?
	I will get you, I will rent you a room in another lady's house.
	And I set everything up in order.
	It was like me killing two birds with one stone for my family.
	So I saw it as, here's an opportunity for me to make sure my mom is safe.
	Her job is going to be to watch my children, which I felt okay with.
	It's their grandma.
	And I'm going to go be a secretary at the university where I got my master's degree at in order to bring in some extra money to basically pay for my mom's life and to allow my husband, who is obviously stuck in his financial development, it will allow him to go to college for free because that was the program.
	You could either go to college for free or your spouse, if they hadn't had a degree yet, could go for free.
	I already had a master's degree by this.
	He didn't agree to any of this?
	He, okay, it's one of those things where you know what wives do.
	We're like, come on.
	He went along with it, not very happy about it, but it made logical sense.
	It made logical sense.
	I don't understand.
	So this is what I don't understand.
	It's like, you say he was super controlling, so controlling he wouldn't even let you work.
	Then we find out.
	Well, it was very covert.
	It was covert.
	Let me finish.
	Let me finish.
	Hang on.
	I just let you go.
	Let me at least ask the question.
	Sure.
	But then we find out, well, wait a second.
	No, that's not really what happened.
	What actually happened was your mom, who's homeless, he moved into his house, right?
	No, no, no.
	We didn't move her into the house.
	I rented her a room with another single lady.
	She didn't live.
	We had a little tiny apartment.
	We had no money.
	We had a two-bedroom apartment with.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You just said that part of the reasons you went to work is so that you could support your mom.
	So I could kill two birds with basically making sure that my mom's needs, basic needs were met of having housing, being safe, and I could have this job that offered me this perk of letting this man get a degree for free at a private university.
	That would have cost us $50,000.
	So I was trying to create an opportunity that he couldn't say no to, is what you could say.
	And at the end of the day, he went along with it because it made logical sense, but he wasn't okay with it.
	So he made my life kind of hell.
	I don't, well, I don't understand the conflict here.
	So because you don't understand, you obviously don't understand the dynamics in these super religious structures of a relationship.
	So that's why I'm asking.
	The problem is, is like, let's try to have this as a conversation so I can ask at least some questions before you cut in in the mid-sentence.
	Otherwise, I can't even ask.
	So just kind of backing up, what I don't understand here is mom moves in, right?
	She doesn't move in.
	Mom doesn't move in.
	She moves in with another lady that I agreed to pay $500 a month for her to live there, to rent a room.
	She's not living in our apartment.
	So this wasn't one of those situations where your husband was like, well, if you're going to do that, you need to financially support her?
	I'm sure he probably said something like that.
	Yeah, I don't remember.
	That does sound logical to me.
	This was a long time ago.
	I mean, we can get him on the phone.
	Well, look, that's your mom.
	And if she's homeless, maybe she's, you know, maybe he thinks that she's a screw-up or something like that.
	Well, to be honest, to be honest, I sold it to the man more like, here's your ticket to get a college degree finally.
	The mom thing was kind of just, that's how the kids will get taken care of.
	It was neither here nor there, to be honest.
	It was more about I'm creating an opportunity for this man to get educated in order to move our family up the financial ladder, even if it took four or five years for him to get it to bed.
	Five seconds.
	Finish your point, please, and then Andrew can respond.
	Okay, so just real quick, what if he didn't want to?
	What if he didn't want to go to college?
	Well, obviously, at the end of the day, he's going to be a little bit more.
	Wait, stop, stop, Look, Andrew lets you speak.
	You got to let him finish his sentence before you respond.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just, and the thing is, is that's the most productive way for us to converse, by the way.
	I want to hear what you have to say, but I need you to hear what I'm saying as well.
	Otherwise, we're just going to come to bad conclusions.
	So if husband says, well, I don't want to go to college.
	That's not my thing.
	Maybe I want to do a blue-collar thing or work myself up from the bottom of a job or something like this.
	You say, well, but I want to create this opportunity for you.
	But how are you creating an opportunity for somebody if they don't want to do that thing?
	Isn't that actually you who's the one who's being pushy?
	Yeah.
	You being the one who's being controlling.
	Wouldn't that be the opposite of him being controlling?
	Yes, you're right.
	And so that is the toxic part of our relationship that I learned.
	I picked the wrong guy.
	And he was not the man that I ultimately wanted to partner with or raise children with because he didn't have that tenacity or that work ethic or that drive.
	And so, yes, it was very toxic of me.
	And I understand why, you know, our relationship we stayed together basically because we were Christians and we didn't believe in divorce.
	Andrew, your response, and then I got to move things on.
	Yeah, yeah, no problem.
	Just last, quick, last response.
	Who wanted the divorce?
	It was me.
	I left.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So you were controlling, and it became toxic.
	And then you were controlling.
	Well, he was controlling as well.
	He was like attracts like.
	So we were two peas in a pod just on the different end of the spectrum.
	I don't believe that like attracts like.
	It does.
	That's literally scientifically how it works.
	You say he only made $30,000, but yet you decided to marry him and have three children with him anyway.
	And you basically just admitted that you put your own needs in front of your family number 304.
	20-second response if you want to.
	Yeah, I mean, yeah.
	Okay.
	Maddie, I'm going to have you read this.
	Valdiv, good to see you in the chat.
	Slingshot, good to see you back in the chat, man.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Mads Reed, does your worth about as much as Kiki in the back?
	Please shut up.
	No one cares.
	I'd much rather hear from the pouty-faced Latinas and the Ebony Queen.
	Does your literally killing society?
	All right, Valdiv, thank you, appreciate it.
	And then we have Pelagic.
	Red's going down.
	Okay.
	And then Spyro.
	I did see.
	Oh, that's weird.
	It's not letting me pull it up.
	Yeah, can you try?
	I don't know.
	Oh, boy.
	Oh, my God.
	I did apologize to the man.
	FY.
	Oh, I think it's back.
	I think it's back.
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Oh, my God, what's going on today, boys?
	Our stream quality is.
	I think it's okay, Nick.
	I think it's okay.
	I think we're okay.
	Right?
	Yeah, I was saying.
	Andrew, can you hear us?
	You can hear us?
	Okay.
	We had a dip in our bit rate.
	Okay, so let me just re-pull those.
	Red's going down.
	Spyro, you'll have to shoot me a DM on Instagram if you want to do Bitcoin.
	If you want.
	So thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	And then Pelagic, thank you for the very generous super chat.
	Appreciate it, buddy.
	Okay, we got to get everybody's relationship status.
	So let's get yours.
	All right, go ahead.
	All right.
	Well, I am currently in a committed relationship for almost a year, and my longest relationship was five years.
	All right.
	And if my understanding is correct, you're currently in an age gap relationship.
	Yes.
	So you're 26 and he's 53.
	He's 53.
	Wow.
	And you both bonded over illnesses.
	Is that correct?
	Yes.
	We both have chronic health conditions.
	And we met because I was walking with a cane in the movie theater that we were watching.
	And he just approached me and just asked about it.
	And he has a terminal illness.
	So is it cancer?
	No, it's a pancreas thing.
	So he doesn't have too long to live.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Very sad, but it just brings us closer together on multiple levels and being present in the moment.
	And sorry, you said he's 50 hell?
	Three.
	53.
	Okay.
	And I had another question on that.
	So he was, was he previously married?
	He was never married, no children.
	No children?
	Okay.
	And you guys aren't married?
	No.
	And he pretty much has nobody in his life besides you?
	Well, he has a sister, and then he has a couple of trustees who will handle everything after he passes.
	Are you getting anything in the estate?
	I'm not sure, but I do know that I am welcome to stay at the place where I made home with the lovely ladies who live there with his sister and another woman who actually was his oldest girlfriend and is his number one.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am in a relationship right now, and my longest relationship was 10 months.
	How long have you been seeing this current guy?
	We just started dating like three weeks ago.
	All right, three weeks.
	How did you guys meet?
	We met online.
	Tinder?
	Like a dating app?
	No, like Snapchat.
	He added me.
	Snap?
	People meet on Snapchat.
	Well, I'm 18, so like you could just randomly add people on Snapchat.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I currently, or I recently met someone and we're talking, and my longest relationship is four years.
	When you say how recent?
	Like in the past month.
	So you've been in the talking stage for a month?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And also age gap.
	Oh, how old is he?
	I'm 29 and he's 43.
	29, 43?
	Okay.
	I'm currently in a relationship.
	My longest is three years.
	I'm not sure if mine qualifies for an age gap.
	It's just five years, but I mean, yeah, that's not.
	And wait, you've been dating this current guy for how long?
	We've been together for, oh, it's hard to give a time just because it's very complicated, our situation.
	How long have you known him?
	Three years.
	Three years, yeah.
	And you said your longest relationship was three years.
	When did that relationship end?
	That one was my high school sweetheart.
	I see.
	And then this guy, I've known him for three years and we've been together for three years.
	I have a child with him.
	Oh.
	But right now it's a difficult situation.
	Jux and MILF.
	Whoa, what the fuck?
	Nick!
	Nick!
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay, so you have just one child?
	Yes.
	Okay, and you guys have been kind of like off, off and on for three years?
	For practically my entire pregnancy, everything, yeah.
	Okay, so I'm assuming he's the father of the child.
	Okay.
	We got some hot mamas here.
	All right, what about you?
	Well, I'm not a mom, but I am single and I'm currently dating.
	I started dating back in September, online dating mainly.
	And my longest relationship is a year and a half.
	All right.
	And you said you're currently dating.
	So are you in like a talking stage?
	I'm talking to someone right now.
	This one's actually really recent.
	It's literally a couple days ago.
	Have you guys been on a date?
	No.
	He actually, he lives in a different state.
	Oh, okay.
	How did you guys meet?
	Instagram?
	No, so my friend Satara, she actually works.
	She travels a lot for work.
	So she went to Seattle and then she was on, I think it was Bumble.
	And then she was looking for guys on Bumble.
	They both matched.
	And then he saw a picture of me and her on her profile.
	So then he asked her, oh, who's your friend?
	Is she single?
	And then so she connected us both.
	So we started talking on Instagram and then we just started talking.
	Okay.
	And is this the only guy that you're talking to?
	Yep, the only one.
	You don't have like a roster or anything like that?
	No, I'm not like that.
	I'm not doing something like that.
	But you guys are planning to meet then.
	That's the plan, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I'm just like, you guys have like anything concrete?
	Like you're going to go there, he's going to come here in a month.
	We literally just started talking about that today.
	This is just a random conversation right now because I literally told him, well, I'm going to be on the podcast.
	You want to watch?
	So yeah, I don't know if he's watching right now, so this is kind of different.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Hi.
	All right, cool.
	So we've got everybody's relationship status.
	I'm trying to think what else we had to hit on.
	Nick, you could hide that one, by the way, from him, but I think we can get into some of my pre-show notes here initially.
	Oh, wait, hold on.
	Andrew, your relationship status.
	Yeah, I'm happily married.
	I have been for well over a decade.
	All right.
	Congratulations.
	Rock and roll.
	So I'm going to get into some pre-show notes here.
	I've got quite a few tonight, so we are going to try to get through them as quickly as possible.
	But I'm going to start with you.
	So, hold on.
	So many.
	I'm scrolling through.
	Yeah, I wrote a lot.
	No, not even you.
	Just remember.
	I wrote a lot too.
	So.
	Did I skip past it?
	Or how many notes do I have?
	Sorry, guys.
	Give me the long run.
	Alex, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, so in terms of your relationship history, you said that you've been in long-term relationships.
	At one point, you were engaged.
	Yes.
	You never got married?
	No.
	Okay.
	Who called off the engagement?
	Me.
	I kind of, it was actually after it was actually to my ex-best friend who I've been best friends with high school, and we also only reconnected after graduating.
	And we've been talking for a few months, and then I proposed.
	And then I proposed.
	Did you have a ring?
	He got me a ring, and then I got him a ring after that.
	Did you get down on the phone because we were kind of long distance, but it was right after I ended, well, we mutually ended my five-year relationship.
	So I was kind of a little bit vulnerable and just reconnecting.
	So, and then we were planning on getting married two months in, and then I actually kind of figured out I might be a lesbian instead and broke everything off.
	Wait, how long were you dating him?
	For about three months.
	But I've known him for about like six years.
	He was my best friend.
	So, what's your orientation?
	Are you bisexual?
	Yeah, I mean, I go with the flow, whoever I meet, who I buy by.
	You date men and women?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you also said you, in addition to that, you've been in polyamorous situations dating six to ten people.
	Is ten people the most you've dated at a time?
	A little bit more.
	At a time, yes.
	Now, just for better understanding, like with polyamory, was it like a 10-person couple or like you were dating ten individual people?
	I was dating ten individual people.
	One of them was a couple.
	And then a couple of them were online, and then a few were just here and there.
	Okay, so you.
	Real quick, I just wanted to note too: you have kind of a strange way of speaking.
	Where's the accent from?
	I'm originally from Russia.
	Okay.
	I thought maybe you were, but I wasn't.
	Nice.
	Little like, how long have you been in the States?
	Let's see, since 2009?
	2009, and basically centered around the West Coast?
	I have been kind of all over in California, from like LA area to Bay Area, and I live like everywhere in between.
	That's like the first time I've heard a Russian accent, but kind of mixed in with Valley Girls.
	I was like, what the hell?
	Oh, that's funny.
	You speak Russian, I'm assuming.
	Yes, I do, of course.
	Okay.
	Very cool.
	Very cool.
	And but so you moved in 2009, so you were what?
	Like I was 11, turning 12.
	And you moved with your family?
	I moved with my mom and my dad.
	No, I'm sorry, with my mom and my brother.
	Okay.
	Because she fell in love and got married, but then it ended up being an abusive relationship, and it was a whole bunch of stuff.
	Wait, so back in Russia, your parents were never married or they split up?
	They were married, but they did split up.
	Yeah, they did get divorced.
	And then your mother met an American, and then yes, because my aunt lives here, so she came to visit her.
	And then she met an American guy.
	They fell in love.
	They got married in Vegas.
	Green card.
	Was there a green card?
	Afterwards, yes.
	And then she brought us over, and then there was a whole lot of stuff.
	All right.
	So dating the six to ten people.
	So like when you say polyamory dating six to ten people, so like are you like hooking up with all of them kind of at like you know one on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, like that kind of thing?
	Um, kind of.
	It's kind of whenever our schedules combine and kind of our schedules worked on the majority of people I saw maybe once, twice a week.
	Um, and then a couple of them were online relationships, so you know, it was a little easier.
	Did it ever get overwhelming, like, trying to talk to so many people?
	Ten people, computers and needs and remember what that was.
	Well, seriously.
	At that time, no, because I just wanted to experience as much as I have.
	I've just come out of a period of two-year celibacy.
	So you were celibate for two years?
	I was celibate for two years prior to that.
	Why twice?
	Multiple reasons, but it's really to work on myself and just kind of not be a terrible person to other people and like learn how to be.
	Wait, I have a question for you.
	So during this celibacy thing, like, would you say within three months?
	So you were at the tail end of your celibacy, three months, dating for, or there was the three-month tail end of your celibacy.
	Were there any guys who were romantically and or sexually interested in you?
	Not really because I didn't really talk to many people.
	However, I read a lot of spicy books.
	And that's kind of what got me back into the whole like trying to see if it would even work.
	Romance novels.
	It was the guy on the horse with the long hair.
	Fabio.
	Okay.
	I was just curious, like, if at the tail end of your celibacy, you were like, no, no, no, I'm celibate.
	And then your celibacy ends.
	And then you're just like dating like six dudes.
	Well, it started with one and then two and then three and then four and then five, you know.
	Would you tell the guys that you were seeing other guys?
	Yes.
	I was always honest and I was always asking for the S C D panels prior to every single prior to every single first date, even if I wasn't planning on doing anything.
	Now, a quick, quick question for you.
	Were your parents Russian Orthodox?
	Yes.
	However, You know, it wasn't strictly followed.
	Sure.
	Yeah, yeah, sure.
	So were you baptized into the church then?
	I was baptized in the church.
	However, starting seven years old when we baptized my brother, I started getting terrible headaches whenever I entered into church.
	So I haven't been ever since.
	Maybe the incense?
	Most likely, but also the pressure, you know, of like being and behaving a certain way.
	So what do your parents, what do your parents think about this, about this lifestyle and all of this?
	Well, my mom doesn't really know much about my life.
	We're not too close.
	So she knows about the one I'm dating.
	So all the long-term relationships she knows about.
	But, you know, everything in between is my own personal stuff.
	Well, because if they're Russian Orthodox, then I take it they would frown on polyamory and on the perhaps same-sex relationship stuff, that kind of thing, right?
	Well, I was always different.
	So my mom kind of, you know, we always were not friendly with each other growing up.
	So it's like she always kind of expected me to do whatever.
	And, you know, I went to an art school.
	So like, I feel like she would have had possibly some kind of, at least the thought that that might be a chance.
	Okay.
	So you're not very close with them then?
	With mom or dad?
	So my dad has passed away, but not too close with my mom.
	She recently moved to Arizona and then she's going to be traveling the world with her fiancé.
	So there's not much chance to really chat.
	And then with dad, when did he pass?
	He passed, oh my God, I think it was 2017.
	And I haven't seen him since like about two weeks before I left.
	And I haven't spoken to him or seen him.
	He's never asked about me.
	You mean when you were seven?
	You haven't spoken to him since you left when you were seven?
	Since I left since I was 10.
	Oh, 10?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Gotcha.
	All right.
	Yeah, I was just curious.
	I just wanted to kind of flesh the rest of that out.
	So I appreciate you answering my questions.
	And on that note, you said that monogamy, I think you have an issue with monogamy being the standard and you think that monogamy is harmful.
	That's what you said.
	Monogamy is harmful.
	Why is that?
	So I don't necessarily think monogamy is harmful.
	It's more, it's harmful as a social norm to begin with.
	Like, I don't think that it's right to just like, especially in the talking stage or like the beginning dating stage, to just focus on one person and expect to be with just one person.
	And on top of that, there has to be specific levels of commitment in order to get to that, to that monogamous relationship and to create the boundaries and the rules and set what she wants.
	So I think monogamy should not be the beginning norm.
	I think it should be what everyone comes to a conclusion.
	Long term you do want that or do you want it?
	Do you think that like five, ten years?
	How old are you getting?
	I'm 26.
	I think she just wants to go with the flow if it naturally occurred and it felt right.
	But the thing is, when you agree to monogamy, it can very easily get toxic.
	Exactly.
	And the guys tend to start controlling.
	No, because you choose the wrong man.
	Let's just be honest.
	You choose the wrong man.
	Well, that could be the case.
	If you choose a man that says to you, I want to get married.
	I want to have children.
	I want it to be unaffected.
	They lock it down.
	And then they have a lot of people.
	I know, but not all men are like your answers.
	Because I've also dealt with bad men, but they're not all like that.
	So you're open to it, though.
	Open to the, to being committed to one person.
	So I am committed to one person, so so, so it's literally go with the flow of what I feel like.
	Um, so it's like at the moment I physically do not want anyone else, I have no interest in anyone else.
	So like so, we've talked about it, you know, and we both were like hey, we're not really interested in other people.
	Um, we love each other's company, you know, if a situation comes up where we meet somebody together, so it's kind of just feeling based, emotional based, exactly.
	You said that it's like a toxic social structure, like to be monogamous.
	But what from the get-go?
	From the get-go?
	Oh yeah so so, specifically from the get-go.
	I think monogamy should be established and agreed upon from both parties, not just be kind of.
	The normal thing is, anytime you institutionalize something, it very much I gotta say real quick I don't mean to cut you guys off but um ready, you gotta go get an energy drink.
	You gotta go slim like pound an energy drink.
	See, if I could pass it out on that end.
	Yeah go yeah, pound an energy drink, you'll feel a lot better.
	Um, can I?
	So I know, i've taken those brutal flights myself out there and uh, that always helps me just, uh.
	But so I, I just want to ask you like, okay.
	So I know you said um, like even the relationship you're with right now it's.
	You said you guys enjoy your guys's company, you guys are committed to each other, but you know, if you guys want to date someone else, or things change.
	So where is the actual real commitment like in your head and how do you see that if there's no real commitment?
	Well, there is commitment because we decide on it and we have decided that if we meet somebody, it would be.
	It would be somebody you know, like that we both like and we both oh like to bring into the, to bring in the chat oh, not to meet each other for um no, but but however, if we do meet other people somehow and would want to be with other people like, it is what it is.
	So what it comes down to is basically, it's a different structure where we are ultimately only committed 100 to ourselves and our own personal selfish though no, it's actually not, because that's the only way that you can truly show up and fully full out love somebody with your whole soul and receive their full out, unconditional love from their soul when you start adding, but it's not unconditional, it's conditional.
	It's conditional based on at any point.
	If this relationship no longer serves your personal growth and your highest good, or my personal growth and my highest good as consenting adults, we will peacefully do what we got to do.
	Then why make a commitment in the first place?
	If you don't I mean I personally, I don't the only commitment I make is to my own personal growth, health and development and to being completely honest and transparent.
	So there's no shadiness we talk about everything and transparent either.
	Then yeah, it's really just.
	And when you reach that level, you don't need to have these monogamous things, because that's not what it's about.
	It's about connection, it's about love, it's about you feel that I get what it is that you're saying, about the whole self-love, and that you have to show up for yourself 100.
	I get that.
	But then that also just takes away with people being able to do that.
	It actually dies a relationship faster.
	You don't fight for anything.
	No, that's actually not true because when you actually find those aligned people who are worth fighting for, that's how you weed it out.
	I love your fucking soul so much that I'm willing to be curious.
	Why did you do that? thing?
	I'm just curious.
	And we have no jealousy, right?
	Because we have no reason to be jealous.
	We are awesome human beings.
	And if this guy wants to go, fine.
	Another cool, awesome person will come in.
	If we want to leave because he's not stepping it up or he's not doing the right thing, we're free to go.
	Do you believe in that?
	But isn't jealousy actually kind of healthy?
	So doesn't that show that you, hang on, hang on.
	Doesn't that show that you actually value a person and value them as a human being to the point that you don't want to share them or that you don't want any other people to intrude?
	You want to make it all to yourself.
	Lol Caladin's donated $200.
	Controlling man, noun, when a woman wants to have relations with another man and the boy, friend, or husband says no.
	Number two is the definition of toxic femininity.
	Let the rest of the panel speak.
	Well, I mean, they're all engaging, honestly, and I don't see a problem with people engaging.
	But to this, to my question, isn't that part, like if you love somebody, right?
	Now, I know that you can take anything to an extreme.
	You can even take how much you love a person to an extreme, smother them, this type of thing.
	But wouldn't you expect to see something you value for you to be a little bit jealous of if somebody else was kind of moving in or you felt they were spending time away from you, things like that?
	Isn't a bit of jealousy good?
	And for you to say, well, I just don't have any, isn't that really just telling us that you don't value anybody?
	No, I would say that the jealousy is a tool.
	It's a tool.
	It's just an emotional tool.
	Well, it's a human emotion.
	It's a human emotion, but it's nothing to get stuck on.
	It should be a passion sparker.
	Like, you know what?
	I'm getting kind of jealous that he's really talking to that girl a lot at work.
	Instead of me trumping and getting all dramatic or whatever, what do I do but step up my fucking game?
	Well, then I'll dress a little cuter.
	Yeah, but isn't that shit testing, though?
	It's not.
	It's fun.
	It's honestly very fun.
	Isn't the old adage of play stupid games, win stupid prizes?
	It's not stupid, though.
	It's not stupid.
	It's actually that's the way you have a passionate sex life for the whole relationship.
	Guys, one at a time.
	Let them finish and then you can go.
	If you're in a position where you value somebody, of course, you could easily experience those feelings of jealousy.
	That does not only not make you a bad person, but probably a good thing.
	It's probably healthy.
	It shows that you love and adore this person and you value them and this type of thing.
	Or it shows that you're not comfortable with yourself.
	Just hang on.
	I'm almost done.
	And I'll let you speak, I promise.
	Isn't it good in many ways that people show that they have a bit of jealousy because that's the value?
	They're showing, I value this thing.
	And you're like saying, I have none of that.
	Wouldn't that tell me that you just don't value anybody or anything?
	I would say that the jealousy is actually the root of it, is your own insecurity.
	See, I don't have jealousy because I know I am a unique one-of-a-kind energy.
	If a man wants to have experience a different flavor, that's fine.
	Why would I be jealous of that?
	He'll be back when he wants this flavor.
	No different than how it's a tool.
	Jealousy is a different thing.
	Andrew, let her finish.
	Go ahead.
	So I just look at jealousy as a tool.
	Now, what I prefer more is true admiration and respect.
	When I truly admire a man and respect him, I might have that little twinge of what we could call jealousy.
	But what it is, is he's holding me accountable to rise up my level.
	For example, there's this guy who is my guy.
	We all have the one that got away, the childhood love, whatever you want to say, right?
	He's just my guy.
	We've never actually been together.
	But you know what I love about him is that he had this kinky side.
	I didn't have that coming from the Christian world.
	I was like a good girl.
	So because of my love of this man, my reverence of him, my respect of him, I allowed that to rise my game.
	So I went out and learned how to feel how he wanted to feel.
	No, but then it became fun for me.
	And now I have an extra skill to bring other men.
	Just calm down for a second.
	Hang on.
	Just let me say what I need to say here.
	So it seems like there's a bit of pedantry here where you say things like, well, I'm a unique, special energy.
	It's like, well, okay, but everybody's a unique special energy.
	It's true.
	That is true, which is why I don't think that's a good idea.
	Why not stop?
	Just stop.
	Let me finish.
	Holy shit, before you cut in.
	When you say things like that, it sounds like a bunch of non-sequiturs, like a bunch of meaningless spiritual esoteric tripe that means nothing.
	See, the thing is, I don't get jealous because I'm a unique special energy.
	Well, yeah, but that guy over there is a unique special energy and he does get jealous, right?
	The thing is, is that none of that really actually answers to my question of value.
	So if you value something, the whole purpose of valuing that thing is I love it or I desire it or I want it.
	It has value to me.
	That's where jealousy inserts itself.
	Can jealousy become toxic because people become irate over it?
	Sure.
	But does that usually happen?
	I don't think so.
	I think it's pretty common that people become jealous, even over kind of small things, and even laugh it off and even recognize, ah, you know, maybe that's a bad feeling to have, you know, under this circumstance or that circumstance.
	But what you're talking about really doesn't actually answer my question of, do you value anybody?
	And if you do, how do you demonstrate that without wanting to be a bit possessive or things like this?
	I just don't resonate with the word jealousy or possession or anything along those lines.
	Just because it's common and that's what people typically present doesn't mean it's healthy.
	That's not love.
	Like I love my children.
	So I want the absolute best for them.
	A lot of times they choose things that is not my favorite or they go spend time with other people when I would prefer to spend time with them.
	But I love them so much, I value them as an individual.
	Okay, if you believe that that's your best life, that that's your best choice today, that that's your best friend and you hate me today, okay?
	I love you so much.
	I have the space to allow you to be yourself.
	And I bring that same energy into my relationships dynamics.
	I don't, it's okay to have jealousy, but what I tell men is, that's your issue.
	You go process the jealousy just like I do.
	I feel the jealousy sometimes, and guess what I do?
	I go process.
	No, I'm saying everybody has these human emotions.
	It's what you do with it.
	So I might feel a twinge of jealousy.
	I go and do my inner work.
	You just got done saying that jealousy does not resonate with your frequency.
	It doesn't resonate with me to carry it into somebody.
	I know I'm jealous sometimes, but I just know how to deal with it.
	It's like, but everybody, then that's the story of every human being out there.
	Almost every human being out there gets jealous, and most of them know how to deal with it by the time they're adults because they have to, right?
	Okay, so maybe we agree I misworded it and we can agree on that.
	I was simply saying, as the emotions of jealousy or possession kick in, I don't bring that into my relationships.
	I go have a night to myself and I ask myself, what would make me feel insecure?
	Why do I feel insecure in comparison to, for example, this other woman?
	And then I think to myself, well, you know what?
	She's in better shape than me.
	I really like that.
	And so, you know what I do?
	Instead of dumping that onto my relationship, I go get in better shape.
	Hold on.
	Right.
	You know, final thing.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so you're actually coping with jealousy.
	What you're saying is, I have ways in which I hang on to the power of the people.
	I use it as an invitation.
	With jealousy.
	I use it.
	I cope with jealousy and teach people how to cope.
	It's not a case.
	I teach people how to cope.
	It's not a coping.
	It is a, you're using jealousy as the tool of the invitation.
	It's a tool to look inward and say, what is this triggering?
	What is this triggering?
	Yeah, but you can't do it.
	And then you listen to the attention that he's showing to her.
	So you're like, okay, let me look like that.
	That's not true.
	Yeah, let me look like her.
	That's cope.
	It's jealous.
	You look down with the definition that you're doing.
	It is great.
	We can agree to this.
	It's just a human thing.
	It's what you do with it, is all I'm saying.
	But anyway, that's a few things.
	If you show the jealousy of your relationship, it could actually help your relationship with you.
	I wouldn't say it's controlling it.
	I say you're processing it in a healthy way.
	Okay, cool.
	So what's the panel's thoughts on the Anunnaki?
	Does anybody have any idea what that is?
	No, what is life?
	I do.
	I still don't know what it is.
	I don't know what the Anunnaki are.
	I don't know what it is.
	I can tell you.
	Anunnaki, supposedly, are a group of alien beings who came down as starseeds and seeded the planet Earth for life, utilizing hybrid technology in order to create lizard hybrid people in the beginning of our life.
	And they have cool wash-looking things.
	Yeah, we're not going to linger on the Anunnaki thing.
	Thank you.
	Don't worry about it.
	A couple questions for you here.
	You mentioned low vibrations.
	You mentioned frequencies.
	You know, I don't know if you're familiar with one of the greatest minds of our generation, of our time, Terrence Howard.
	Are you familiar with him at all?
	No, but explain the thought process.
	So, yeah, Terrence Howard, one of the greatest minds of our time.
	He asserts that frequencies have intrinsic power that resonates throughout history.
	Yeah.
	And it influences our emotional, physiological, and cognitive states to do to do that.
	Yeah, so it would be what the better word would be to use epigenetics.
	So epigenetics is the transfer of vibrational data through the generations.
	Now, I so that is not what epigenetics means.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Transfer of vibrational data.
	Hold on, hold on.
	It actually does.
	I have degrees in this stuff.
	Okay.
	You have degrees in from degrees in epigenetics, huh?
	I have a degree in psychology and social behavior, and I have a degree in counseling.
	And I also have a life coach certification from an institute that specializes in quantum physics and vibrational resonance.
	Okay, so in your psychology degree, did they explain to you that epigenetics is the study of vibrational frequency passed down through the generation?
	I just want this on record.
	So, for example, they have studied now in rats, right, in pregnant rats.
	They do these tests where the pregnant rat they can tell now because they use water and the vibration of water and all this stuff in the mom.
	But vibrational data, meaning basically the traumas and the emotional information from the mother gets transferred to that baby that she's pregnant with, and that goes back seven generations.
	That is not vibrational data.
	It actually is.
	Being transferred.
	No.
	In biology, epigenetics is a study of heritable traits or a stable change of cell function that happen without changes to the DNA sequence.
	These are not studies of the vibrational intergenerational frequencies of parents and sons, daughters, and heritability of vibrations.
	That's esotericism tossed into epigenetics, which is a real legitimate scientific study.
	It's not about esoteric vibration.
	Your school of science and my school of science didn't date, apparently.
	So that's fine.
	Your school of science studies vibrational frequencies passed down heritable frequencies.
	So my greatest mentor and who taught me about quantum physics and vibrational information is Mary Morrissey.
	You can look her up.
	She runs the Brave Thinking Institute and she's a master.
	She's a master at creating anything you want.
	It's a science.
	It's called quantum physics, okay?
	Because we're all vibrational beings and we are passing on vibrational information.
	All right, so I've got a couple, like, I want to run some, like, this is from Terrence Howard.
	I just want to run like this by you and see if you kind of concur.
	So he says, with the science that Pythagoras was searching for, like, he's made discoveries in his own personal life with the science that Pythagoras was searching for, he was able to open up the flower of life properly and find the real wave conjugations that we've been looking for for 10,000 years.
	Why would I continue walking on water for tips when I got an entire okay, that's something else?
	Hold on, let me find the other quote one second here.
	He says that, one sec, I'm getting it.
	He all so he says, all the energy in the universe is expressed in motion.
	All motion is expressed in waves.
	All waves are curves.
	So where does the straight lines come from to make the platonic solids?
	There are no straight lines.
	So when I took the flower of life and opened it properly, I found all new wave conjugations that expose the in-between spaces.
	It's the thing that holds us all together.
	Yep.
	So straight lines or solid matter is an optical illusion.
	It's not really what's going on scientifically.
	So if you hold it under the right microscope, you see there's no straight lines.
	There is vibration.
	It's everything is moving and it's waves.
	It's sound waves.
	It's all of this.
	And that is what our body is actually reading the data coming in.
	Now, I would know.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Okay.
	So he also says that he's able to prove that gravity is only an effect and not a force.
	Do you tend to agree with that?
	Gravity is only an effect and not a force.
	God, that's such a complicated way of saying that.
	I'm trying to translate it into like common speak because that's the problem.
	A lot of stuff gets lost in translation, to be honest with you, because we all have our own way of understanding things, right?
	So that's why I speak street thug, I speak scientists, I speak life coach.
	The gravity is by itself with no one around.
	Is it a force?
	I would say, okay, okay, I will say that gravity, if there's nothing to drop, is useless.
	It's only there to serve the matter that it is vibing with, you could say, that it's around.
	So I guess that is true.
	It's not a force that's going to be penetrative.
	It's just there.
	If it's necessary, it's there to drop something.
	Okay, but effects have causes.
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	So what's the cause of the effect?
	That's a good question.
	Can you rephrase that?
	Like, say it in a second.
	I don't.
	I actually don't know.
	I don't even know how I could ask that better.
	Okay, so you're saying where does the law of gravity come from?
	Where does the law of gravity come from?
	Is that what you're saying?
	I'm saying if it's an effect, what is the cause of the effect?
	The cause of the effect is us, is everything that would require the gravity to work.
	So it might be a human body, it might be an animal, it might be a rock.
	It's not the human body.
	The human body.
	Well, that's the mystery.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Wait, hang on.
	Wait, that doesn't make any sense.
	Gravity as a force, okay, you say it's an effect.
	This is an effect.
	Okay, but all effects have causes.
	What is the cause of this effect of gravity?
	You say, well, human beings are the effect of the cause of the graph.
	Well, I would say that, honestly, even though I don't mean this to be like flippant, but I think that that's what we would call God.
	We would call that the mystery.
	There's certain things, it's a little above our pay grade of exactly how it came to be and exactly why it mathematically works perfectly and exactly why it's there.
	I mean, it's like the mystery of life.
	So you don't know.
	Right?
	You don't know what the cause is.
	That's what you're actually saying.
	Is that just a matter of time?
	No, no, I'm saying that I can say definitively the cause is what I would call God.
	You can call it whatever you want.
	You can call it.
	So the cause of gravity is, or the effect of gravity is God.
	God is causing gravity to happen.
	Well, I mean, I hate to say God because we have like this particular image, but that's just the best word that we've kind of come up with.
	You can call it the mystery.
	Again, the mystery.
	Now, when you get into frequency, it's interesting because, now, don't take this the wrong way, but from my perspective, what you're saying is a bunch of pseudo-scientific nonsense.
	When you're talking about frequency, it is true that solid objects do have a frequency.
	For instance, if you took a wine glass and you hit the right pitch with your voice, you could break the glass.
	The reason that that glass breaks is because it does have a frequency, and the frequency of your voice, if they intersect, it can dissolve objects.
	There is a precedent for this.
	We've known about this for a long, long, long time.
	What I don't understand, though, is this idea that there's no such thing as something solid.
	There's not.
	See, you were already mistaken because you were calling the glass solid.
	And you also said that it had a frequency.
	So if it has a frequency by nature, it's not solid.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Because a frequency connotes that something is in movement.
	If it's in movement, it's by nature not solid.
	Okay, I'm moving this on.
	I'm moving this on.
	I'm moving it on.
	Final question on this.
	Two plus two equals four.
	Agree or disagree?
	I mean, it depends on what the two is.
	Is it a pregnant mom?
	Is it two pregnant moms?
	Because that's more.
	So it's everything is not as simple.
	I mean, like math.
	Just like two pencils plus two pencils?
	Is that what we're talking about?
	Yeah, like the number.
	The number two, the plus the number.
	The number two plus the number two.
	I would say for the most part, yes.
	What do you mean for the most part?
	Like I said, there's some variations where, but the thing is, even that is a flawed concept because it's actually, that pencil is billions of atoms that are vibrating.
	So we've learned, we've come to call it one pencil, but it's actually however many atoms vibrating on the same frequency to make this appearance, this optical illusion that this is a pencil.
	And our human mind needs to label things and conceptualize it in solid form.
	So we just call it.
	It's not solid, then how does it break?
	Well, technically, it's not really broken.
	I mean, even that's an option.
	Well, you could say now it appears as two pieces.
	It still was never solid.
	It's two pieces.
	That's why, right?
	Well, no offense, but I think you need to go to school a little longer.
	If you're in a kindergarten class and the teacher...
	Well, no offense, that's not an answer.
	How is that not an answer?
	Saying no offense, but I don't have an answer to that.
	I gave you the answer and you didn't want to accept it, so that's not my fault.
	Why would a glass break if it's not solid?
	It only appears to break.
	It only appears to be broken.
	Just like a heart only appears to break.
	It's still in your heart.
	No, that's not that's way different.
	When you go through a heartbreak, it's honestly saying it's not that different, you guys, on a scientific microscopic level.
	It's not that different.
	You can't see the heart broken because it's not really getting broken.
	It's a sign.
	You can't die from a broken heart.
	Just like the pencil, it's just a saying that I broke the pencil.
	It's just, it's the same thing.
	Okay, that's like you saying I'm not really one human body because I'm made up of a million cells.
	And that is true.
	I describe myself as more as a constellation.
	I'm a constellation of atoms and energy.
	And you're here.
	You're one person.
	You're one human body.
	I mean, I don't think of myself as one of anything.
	But you can say that.
	You can say that's your truth.
	But the reality is you are one human being.
	No, the reality is actually.
	Okay, so I just grab a part of you and there's two of you.
	You could grab a piece of my hair.
	But that's your hair coming off.
	That's just a part of my DNA.
	All my DNA is in that one piece of my hair.
	Yeah, but that's not a bad thing.
	But that's not your body, though.
	It's defining ontology.
	Exactly.
	And guess what?
	My body is not who I am.
	Oh, gosh.
	Yeah, but that's an ontological claim.
	What is you, then?
	There is no, I'm not definable.
	I am.
	You're not.
	I thought you were valuable.
	I thought you were very valuable, though, and you were very unique.
	I am not extremely flat.
	Just like God came, Jesus said, I am.
	You just don't exist.
	I am.
	I am.
	You both exist and both don't exist at the same time.
	We're very complex, aren't we?
	All right, Madison.
	No, we're not really.
	I mean, when you make an ontological when we're dead, aside from death rattle, nothing is moving.
	I've only expended maybe 80 years worth of vibration when I was alive.
	How do I pass on vibration when I dead?
	When I did.
	You have 10 seconds to answer that if you want.
	You're essentially when this biological body dies, your energetic vibration is still there.
	So we could call that the afterlife, whatever you want to say.
	You decompose and your energy recycles back into your life.
	Go ahead, Madison.
	This chick is confusing science with an achievement you can unlock in Assassin's Creed Unity.
	Well, I got to ask this one last question.
	Does two plus two equal four?
	In your brain, it definitely does.
	In everyone's brain.
	No, I'm asking you.
	Again, if it's two, like, what are we talking about?
	Two plus.
	Two numbers.
	Literally the number two.
	One atom plus one atom equals two.
	Yes.
	Okay, what about two atoms?
	So does two plus two equal equals.
	So whatever that is, two plus two.
	Does it yes or no equal four?
	Say it again.
	I just want a yes or no.
	Does two plus two equal four?
	If we're talking on the atomic level, yes.
	Okay, what level does it not equal four?
	Anything other than the atomic level?
	So anything other than the atomic level meaning.
	I am a body made of billions of cells.
	That feels like my brain.
	Say that again.
	That felt like my brain.
	It's too heady for this.
	Why are we even talking about all this science, guys?
	Who cares?
	It just feels like nobody else.
	No.
	Just melting right now.
	This is above most people's pay grade.
	We don't need to talk about it.
	Two plus two is.
	I wrote books.
	I break this all down into very basic day-to-day terms.
	You can just read my books.
	Go ahead, Madison.
	You are definitely you didn't read books.
	No, stop.
	Stop seeing that.
	Sexual gratification.
	I'd usually say, please go home and think about your actions, but maybe stop thinking so much.
	That is true.
	There's another one coming in.
	Go ahead, Madison.
	This trick is confusing science.
	We already read that.
	With an achievement you've been a lot of people.
	Oh, my bad.
	My bad.
	Nickelodeon, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you guys.
	Appreciate it.
	Go ahead, Andrew, with your point.
	I was just going to ask what the resonant frequency of your books are.
	Hang on, people.
	The resonant girl.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	Wait, what am I answering?
	Am I answering?
	I'm asking, like, what frequency are your books at?
	Truth.
	The resonant frequency is truth plus love.
	Yeah, well, Christ consciousness.
	It's Christ consciousness.
	What is the numerical value of the frequency of truth?
	We can look it up.
	There really is.
	You can look up the resonant frequency of truth plus love, which is Christ consciousness, technically.
	It has a number.
	Christ consciousness.
	It has a number.
	You can look it up.
	What's the number?
	I don't know it off the top of my head.
	It's not really important to me.
	What's important is that.
	Can I look up the Christ consciousness number?
	You can easily Google it yourself.
	Yeah, but I'm asking where?
	Like, where would I look that information up for Christ consciousness?
	Google.
	Google.
	What is the vibrational frequency of authenticity?
	That's what it is.
	Oh.
	Did you show the whole thing?
	Or how long was it on that?
	I don't know.
	Holy wild.
	So, moving on, going over here to Emily, right?
	Okay.
	You just describe yourself as liberal, kind of.
	Like, I'm just not like, what do you call it?
	The opposite of liberal, like, the conservative.
	Conservative.
	Yeah, I was not conservative.
	So you're moderate?
	I guess.
	I'm just like, because my grandparents, I grew up with them for like five years.
	I was in Nebraska for five years before I was here.
	And they're very conservative.
	And I just did not like the way, like, that's what made me not like conservative that much.
	And you also describe yourself as a feminist.
	Is that correct?
	I said yes in the chat because I didn't really know.
	This was like, yeah, but I don't think so.
	But do you believe in moving towards egalitarianism and getting rid of, assuming it exists, a patriarchy?
	No.
	So you're in favor of the patriarchy?
	Yeah.
	So then you're not.
	That would mean that you're more conservative.
	Yeah, you would definitely have conservative beliefs then.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You also dated.
	I don't know if I'm going to go with these topics, but you did have a crazy ex.
	Not going to bring the first one up, but I don't even know if I want to bring the second one up.
	Yeah, because they're pretty crazy.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, all right.
	So not a feminist then.
	No.
	All right.
	So then what do you mean, like, you're in favor of patriarchy?
	Like, in what way?
	I don't know, actually.
	I really don't know.
	Okay, she doesn't know.
	I just don't know.
	Are you meaning it like you appreciate male leadership more from that?
	Like you appreciate in some ways.
	Yeah.
	In some ways.
	Do you think they're shy?
	Anyways, okay, I'm going to move it on.
	Just show of hands.
	Who here considers themselves a feminist?
	Show of hands.
	Only one?
	Okay, cool.
	We can get to that a little bit later.
	Moving on over to Ashley here.
	You said you're conservative/slash traditional, but you were extremely liberal in your past.
	Is that correct?
	Yeah.
	And so what made you switch up?
	Well, yeah, when I was going to college, I was taking like a bunch of gender classes because I was going for sociology.
	And so I really fell into like the whole feminist.
	You were a sociology major.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, and I stepped away from that.
	But what changed it really was just going out in the real world and just kind of seeing how things really worked.
	And I also became Christian.
	And so I think naturally you just kind of see it's very black and white, very different.
	Liberal is just very just.
	And do you.
	And was a man responsible for this move to Christianity?
	No, no.
	So I was born again in 2018.
	Well, I was with someone that he introduced me to the Bible, but not, I guess.
	Which denomination are you?
	I guess you would say more like charismatic, Pentecostal.
	Wait, what's I'm not familiar with charismatic?
	We believe in like the Holy Spirit, spiritual gifts, speaking in tongues, healing, praying, Holy Spirit.
	Do you speak in tongues?
	Yes.
	Can we get a demo?
	Is that possible?
	Do you be able to do it on what do you mean?
	Don't they do it in front of the?
	Yeah, like televangelists.
	I would prefer not to, because there should be an interpreter, yes.
	Okay.
	Interpreter, okay.
	Well, I mean, that's not part of the Pentecostal.
	That's a good question.
	Interpreter.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Does it just come to you?
	It's my prayer language.
	I guess I could technically, you're right.
	Yeah, I could technically do anything.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just answering to Andrew.
	Like, it's basically because we're not in a church setting, I could do it in the prayer language.
	So no, I can't.
	Detective Mike Hunt donated $200.
	Red shirt, most meetings start at 7 p.m.
	You should probably head to one.
	Think I got the time zone math right.
	Hashtag Kentucky.
	Okay.
	We have another one that's about to come in.
	Do you want to respond to Mike Hunt?
	Oh, they got me.
	He got me.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for your opinion.
	And I know.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, donated $200 to the oscillation which you anthropomorphize the second law of thermo.
	Mercifully stop.
	Also, someone, John Travolta, Red Shirt, the Poniferous.
	And the what is the axe?
	Jackson?
	Oh, man.
	He's referencing the film Pulp Fiction.
	John Travolta takes a fucking adrenaline.
	That's the way what's it called?
	Do you want to take an ax to me?
	No, it's...
	I think he had it right.
	Isn't it?
	Isn't it an epinephrine shot?
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	It's an adrenaline shot.
	Yeah, that restarts your heart because he overdoses on drugs, right?
	What's the pain?
	It's an EpiPen.
	It's like an EpiPen, like an adrenaline shot.
	No, but what's the name of the needle?
	There's a specific name for the needle.
	The EpiPen?
	No, is that hyperdurable?
	No, there's a hyper.
	I don't know what it is.
	Like a sedative?
	No, what's the name for the actual tool?
	The syringe pen.
	Syringe.
	Yeah, he takes a syringe.
	And just pounds it in the chest.
	Bam!
	Into Uma Thurman's chest.
	That's a great movie.
	Good movie.
	Well, if I can be Uma Thurman, then get it by all means.
	Get it, girl.
	Kill Bill over here.
	Get it, girl.
	All right.
	I don't even know where we were.
	Oh, we were talking about.
	Okay, Ashley, right?
	So, okay.
	And curious, so you said you were born again.
	Do you consider yourself like born again virgin?
	Or just born again?
	Yeah, I mean, so physically, yeah, no, I'm not a virgin.
	Okay.
	But I recommitted to when you told marriage, yes.
	I see.
	I know you love this.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	Good for you.
	Well, I mean, but you understand why it's silly that kind of I'm a born-again virgin, that there's a certain connotation that specific women like to use in order to essentially use that as a cope, right?
	Like, I mean, you realize that that is.
	I'm not saying you are, but I'm saying that.
	No, no, no, but you said use it as a what?
	Cope.
	Oh, okay.
	No, like, I don't, I don't expect for people to really, or men, to look at me as like a true virgin or virgin.
	Like, that's not reality.
	But spiritually, born again, yes, like, I recommitted.
	So, yeah, I understand.
	Yeah, I know you understand.
	But, yeah.
	And I'm curious.
	Do you have like a ministry?
	I do.
	Okay.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	Andrew, I'll let you come in on this in just a moment.
	And so, with your ministry, are you preaching to both men and women?
	I mean, I'm on YouTube, so I say cis a lot, though.
	I think naturally I just geared towards women.
	But I get the whole women shouldn't be leaders and all that.
	And here's the thing: naturally, I don't, when a woman is on stage, like as a pastor, I'm not against it.
	I know there's two different schools of thought when it comes to that.
	Biblically, like, I get that, but I believe that women still have a part in the church.
	Sure.
	Well, Andrew, you know, I'm not particularly religious, but you know, doing my own research, even as somebody who's not religious, my understanding of Christianity is that among all denominations, even Protestant, non-denominational, that is a heresy.
	That's incorrect.
	It's a heresy.
	Yes, that's correct.
	It's incorrect.
	Some denominations have split off.
	No, I think even Protestant.
	It's well, but I'm saying, like, for example, the United, any church that says United, typically they have a more liberal view of things.
	And so they have, even Saddleback Church is technically part of the Southern Baptist Convention, and they now have allowed Rick Warren to step down.
	Wait, do you have a ministry too?
	Don't they all clarify what you mean by that?
	Clarify what you mean by that.
	Well, we are called to be ministers.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say that.
	To teach to heal and to cast out demons in the church.
	So, yes, I do consider myself.
	I'm really curious, though, why you feel so let down?
	Isn't that the Great Commission?
	We're all disciples, right?
	No, no, it's not.
	So, only men are disciples?
	No, that's not what I said.
	Chill out, and I'll explain it to you.
	When you get to the original apostles who became bishops in Christ's church, were any of them female?
	Can I say something?
	Because I actually didn't study this.
	I didn't hear you.
	What?
	The original apostles who became bishops, were any of them female?
	No.
	Why not?
	I'm not sure.
	It's actually not sane.
	Nor am I saying that I need to be a preacher or I need to be a pastor.
	I'm just a witness.
	I am a disciple creating disciples.
	What did Paul say about women leading in the church?
	What did Paul say?
	He said, about being quiet.
	Is that a traditional thing?
	He said, no, he said specifically in multiple places that women were not allowed to have leadership positions in the church.
	Now, when you're talking about a woman's part in a church, I don't disagree.
	I think that women do have a very important role in the church.
	It's just not as clergy.
	Yeah, I'm not against that.
	Like, I'm not here wanting to be a pastor.
	I hold Bible study.
	That's because there's really supposed to be a problem.
	And I don't create the curriculum.
	I go based off of a pastor's curriculum, a church curriculum that's handed and passed down to us.
	And so it's not, to me, I'm really just holding space as a disciple, as a witness with other disciples that are looking to get in the Word of God to talk about God.
	But I don't need to be on stage doing altar calls at a church.
	So, a priest is an embodiment of Christ on earth, and Christ embodied as a male.
	You do have a warm sense of God.
	So, women cannot be the embodiment of Christ.
	That would be men only.
	That is the.
	That's not actually what the doctrine was ever even about.
	But just because I studied all of this.
	You did?
	Yeah.
	So, what was the first synod?
	The whole thing when they discussed this, tell me what it's called.
	The whole principle of women not speaking in church had nothing to do with the fact that women didn't embody fully Christ or God.
	It was a protective measure because men like you are assholes, and it's a protective measure so that men would speak in public.
	I'm just saying, I mean, you don't have to take it personally.
	It is what it is.
	Just avoid ad hominem and attack.
	Okay, so because we live in a patriarchal society and the Bible was written in a patriarchal society to protect women, it's a protective measure.
	Men don't listen to women.
	It's much better if the woman goes to her own partner, her own husband, her own brother who's the minister, and gives the message to him of what's on her heart.
	And he filters it through his man-speak, whatever you want to say, and he goes and presents it before the men.
	That way, he takes the flack on himself for it, so she doesn't have to deal with that emotionally.
	It's a protective measure.
	Women are very sensitive emotionally.
	We were not made to handle all these criticisms coming at us.
	That was supposed to be the setup.
	It was never supposed to be we're not equal to, we're not worthy, we don't have important things to say.
	It wasn't supposed to be that way.
	The patriarchy got convoluted away.
	So, I'm going to try this again.
	I'll just ask you the same question.
	Maybe you can answer it.
	Did Jesus Christ embody as a man or a woman?
	Jesus Christ.
	Yeah.
	He embodied as a man and came to tell us that all of us have the same power as him.
	And I'm embodying Christ's consciousness now as a woman.
	How come he didn't embody as a woman?
	Because he just answered that particular call and he happened to have a penis born to him.
	I have a vagina, and I have the same call.
	He just happened.
	It could have been either.
	He just happened.
	God just happened to be a person.
	I believe because of the nature of God.
	There's no actual messaging behind that.
	It was very dangerous for women to live back then.
	It was very dangerous for women to live back then.
	It wouldn't have worked.
	Yeah, okay, okay.
	Well, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Wait, I just want to make sure that we're clear on this very quickly.
	You think that Christ embodied as a man just because it was fun?
	It was funsies for him?
	No, because it was the safest way for a person with that gift.
	That's why it was the safest way to do it.
	It was, because if he was a woman, if he was a woman, he wouldn't have made it past 12.
	So to plus 2, please shut the fuck up.
	This is wild.
	I've never heard any.
	I mean, this is, you don't even have a grounding epistemology for this.
	So, what is your actual epistemology for church doctrine?
	Who are you?
	You don't even know what I just said.
	Like, I don't even.
	You don't even know what I just said.
	Do you know epistemology?
	Do you know what?
	Do you know what Jesus came to promote?
	Okay, let's talk about it.
	I can't wait to hear what he came to be.
	No, I asked you.
	What do you believe Jesus came here?
	Christian came to give us a church.
	He said so himself.
	Christ said to give us a church.
	The body is the church.
	The body.
	The body is the church.
	The body.
	The body.
	The body is the church.
	So, therefore, this is the church.
	You're making a word concept fallacy because you don't have any grounding epistemology.
	So you don't really understand what you're talking about.
	You've heard the term that we make up the body of the church.
	Let me ask you something.
	Marriage, for instance, is a representation of Christ being the head of that church and you being the body of the church.
	That's why the man is in the leadership role inside of that union.
	So, if that's the case, then he must have embodied as a man for a reason.
	So, what is your grounding epistemology?
	A better question would be.
	Do you even know what epistemology means?
	Can you just start with that?
	Can you tell me what that means?
	I will answer your questions when you answer this question.
	Just answer epistemology.
	I'm not answering your question.
	You don't know what it means.
	I had no idea.
	You have no idea what it even means.
	I need to understand the frame of mind that you're in.
	So, I have to ask you some clarifying questions.
	Were you agree?
	Yeah, if you don't know what epistemology means, it's not a shot against you.
	I'll tell you what it means.
	You just need to be honest and say, Andrew, I don't know what it means.
	And I'll just.
	You just need to be honest and say, I don't want to answer your question, Desiree, because it might bring up something that I don't want to deal with.
	I'm just sitting here answering them.
	So, can I ask you a question?
	Yeah, do you know?
	But, first answer, do you know what no epistemology means?
	No, no, I'm not answering unless you're answering my question.
	Andrew, just here, ask your questions.
	Just file.
	Okay.
	Ask your question, then Andrew gets to ask his.
	He'll answer yours.
	You'll answer his.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay.
	Do you have some sort of problem with seeing yourself as the current embodiment of God?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what's the problem?
	Well, it depends on how you mean embodiment, which is why I'm asking you.
	So, for example, you said you're in a marriage.
	Yeah, so the example is I would say that a priest would be an embodiment as in.
	So, but you told me, you said yourself.
	Let them finish.
	Can I answer your question?
	So, I would see a priest as a representation or an embodiment, I think, in the context you're using it.
	That's what I would see as an embodiment.
	Hang on, let me finish the answer.
	That's what I would see as an embodiment.
	Now, I just answered your question specifically.
	Can you tell me what an epistemology means?
	She has to figure out your frame of mind, Andrew, so she can figure out how much to charge you.
	True, totally true.
	Totally true.
	Now, I just answered your question.
	Can you tell me what epistemology means?
	Epistemology is the study of the epistles.
	That's the simplest way to say it.
	I mean, you can give me your definition.
	But this guy told me that a husband and wife is supposed to be the representation of God and the church.
	He said he's a husband.
	I asked him if he sees himself as the embodiment of God, and he said no.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Wait, what is the epistles?
	The epistles are the apostles.
	Are you talking about the apostles?
	You used the word epistles.
	What are the epistles?
	He said, What is epistemology?
	Yeah, no, what are the epistles?
	You said you talked about the epistles.
	Right?
	Are you talking about the apostles?
	Just say it in common language.
	Yeah, Andrew.
	Epistemology.
	Epistemology is just the study of how we know knowledge.
	Okay, well.
	That's what it means.
	It has nothing to do with epistles.
	What are you talking about?
	When I'm asking for your grounding epistemology, I'm asking, where do you get your grounding foundation for the knowledge you know?
	That's important when we're talking about theology.
	Hang on.
	It's important when we're talking about our grounding for theology that we would call that grounding epistemology.
	Why are we getting into that?
	Anyways, you had something.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Ashlyn.
	Go ahead.
	What I was going to say is I agree with you, Andrew.
	Like, I believe that there are roles that are for leadership that are for men.
	But the way I look at my ministry or what I do is like the woman at the well, when she met Jesus and Jesus called her out and basically told her her past and she met, she had an encounter with Jesus.
	And then it says in the Bible that she went out and started telling the world like what happened and she started talking about Jesus.
	And that's the same framework I'm in.
	And another, like, let's take away the podcast that I do, which is just sitting down talking to people about their testimony with God.
	I have a ministry offline where it's just going to go meet the needs of seniors and then showing them the love of God.
	I mean, to me, why would that only be?
	Yeah, Mac, if you're talking about maybe things like I do Bible study with other girls or, you know, I do kind of outreach or something.
	Yeah, outreaches and stuff like that.
	I think that that might be different than having a position of church authority.
	And that's what we're talking about when we're talking about women in leadership roles.
	Right.
	So hang on, hang on.
	And when we're talking about ministry, I think it depends because I think that if you have a ministry, it depends on the context.
	Are you in a church leadership role because you've created your own church?
	That's where we start to kind of dive into are you clergy or not, right?
	Right.
	Yeah, no.
	So I'm submitted under a church, and any of the Bible study content that I get is from the church that are from males.
	I do have to move things on.
	You also wanted to talk about, so you're sex out of marriage.
	So I assume you're waiting until marriage, is that correct?
	Yes, I recommitted to waiting for marriage.
	Okay.
	And recommitment with a face-based, faith-based foundation, feminism is a scam.
	Well, I don't know if there's much to go on in terms of the sex out of marriage stuff, but it's my understanding that prior to you being born again, prior to you finding Christ, you were having sex out of marriage.
	Is that correct?
	Yes, I was.
	All right.
	And that's a new commitment.
	And the current guy you're dating, are you guys aligned on that?
	Yeah.
	Cool, cool.
	You do have a disagreement with the show.
	You said, I missed the times where there would be other men on the podcast that would hold higher, respectable, masculine energy.
	Do you care to elaborate on that?
	Yeah, I mean, actually, Andrew's not doing too bad today.
	I actually, I feel like he's not having a tone where it's just so degrading and like talking to everybody like we're stupid.
	But like, I feel like before you guys would have like Michael Knowles or just other leaders that would just be able to give their input and it was very valuable and they would teach stuff.
	And again, Andrew, you're doing great.
	Nothing against you.
	But I just miss when there was more male figures because I think it adds to the conversation to where we're able to have more perspective from instead of just a masculine.
	Yeah, can I kind of give you my counter here if you don't mind?
	Of course.
	I tend to match energy with people, right?
	So if, like you saw the gal over here, she called me an asshole, right?
	I hadn't said anything to her.
	I didn't call her any names, nothing like that.
	We were in the middle of having an exchange.
	We were in the middle of having an argument.
	But the reason she said that is because she didn't like my tone, right?
	There's a lot of tone policing that happens with women.
	I don't like how you're saying a thing, right?
	It upsets me how the thing's being said, not necessarily what's being said.
	And so I tend to match energy.
	When you and I are having the conversation, honestly, we're having an intellectual exchange.
	Okay, hang on a second.
	Let this go through.
	No, you're good.
	So for having that exchange, I'm really just kind of interested in the worldview and the data, right?
	So the way I think of it is you're trying to give me the information.
	You're trying to dump the information.
	You've got X amount of time on this podcast.
	You're trying to get that information out of your mouth as fast as possible.
	And I'm trying to hit you with questions.
	And the reason is, is because I want to get more info, right?
	As much as I can get.
	So, I have a good overview of the things you think before we can start the exchange.
	So, sometimes what will happen is I'll cut a person off and say, Wait, wait, wait, you got to back up because I want to get to this wider idea so I understand your worldview better.
	Now, people who are experienced in debate and they're experienced in discourse understand that that's necessary, or else we can't really have kind of that overview, overarching discourse that you want.
	But what you've seen, and even tonight, right?
	If a woman becomes a bitch, if she starts acting like a bitch, then I'll match that energy and treat them exactly how they're treating me back, right?
	That's what I'll do.
	So, the thing is, though, is that as long as you are not doing that, why would I do it?
	Why would I do it to you?
	Yeah, and so I think that's what it seems like, but but you miss kind of this critical context of the build-up to it.
	Yeah, well, I was gonna say, I mean, I'm not gonna get too comfortable.
	I feel like the second half of the show, once you get all the information, that's when you start coming at us.
	Maybe I'm wrong, sometimes, sometimes, but the thing is, is um, it like again, it just misses kind of key context, right?
	Yeah, um, I usually only match energy, but it's so fun, it's so fun to do it that way.
	Okay, I mean, I agree, I'm fine with that.
	Andrew likes the blood sports debates, uh, okay.
	So, moving on to and remember, think of it too, like a sign of respect, right?
	I don't think of you as less than me, which is why I treat you exactly how I would treat a man who is sitting exactly where you were.
	I mean, that I couldn't think of a better way to show respect than that.
	Andrew does go hard on the dudes, on the dudes, and that's the only reason I was.
	You should have seen what he did to Wes Watson.
	He no, I don't, I honestly, Andrew, I have nothing against you.
	I think it's fun, I think it's fun, Andrew.
	It was not a personal thing, it's just locker room talk.
	It's like, let's shoot together, shoot the shit, debate is funny.
	It's fun, I don't give a shit, I don't have to go home and fuck you.
	Stop it, get some help.
	Going to you.
	How do you pronounce your name?
	It's Keshwan.
	Kishwan.
	Keshwan.
	Have you ever dated a white guy?
	Just curious.
	I went on a date with my first white guy like two months ago.
	And is this the guy who you told me about in the pre-show notes, the whole stomach licking?
	Oh, no.
	Okay, that's somebody else.
	I don't know.
	No, so there was a guy I dated back in 2020.
	It was on our first date.
	He was also into fitness.
	So the first date was to go to the gym.
	So right when we got to the gym, the moment we got there, I noticed that this girl, this girl across the way, she's very pretty.
	And then he noticed her and he's like, oh, you thought you were the only one, huh?
	I was like, what are you talking about?
	He's like, look at her butt.
	And I was like, well, you're really checking out a girl right now.
	That's not the time.
	He's not even done yet.
	And then while we were working out, I got sweaty.
	So he licked my stomach.
	And then he was telling me about his penises.
	Was it sexy?
	He was attractive.
	So that's why I wasn't like, oh my God.
	It was just a bad first date.
	Yeah.
	Oh my God.
	Wait, so he's like, he just killed his mouth.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Like, take a class.
	Take a dating 101.
	Orally, after him, I didn't date for two years.
	Oh, God.
	Oh, I love this.
	Because of his licking of your sweat.
	That is so gross.
	And you were also recently talking to a guy and you found out he lives in your building with his.
	Oh, yeah.
	So there was a guy that I was talking to through one of the dating apps, and he told me he wanted something serious.
	He wanted monogamy.
	He didn't have any kids.
	He wanted kids.
	And then we had like a taco thing that happened in our complex by the pool.
	And I saw him in the pool with his kids with his girl right there.
	Oh, my God.
	That recently happened to me.
	This is why I recommend the way I do things, to be honest.
	What is the way you do things?
	Just how you shoot it straight with guys and you put them through these tests on their character.
	But I'm telling you, they're playing harder games on us, ladies.
	That's the only way to be safe in this society.
	To be honest, you have to give them a dose of their own medicine.
	Honestly, I'm not going to be able to do it.
	I'm fucking sucks.
	That's why I would love to see it change.
	But until it does.
	Come on, Nick.
	It's okay.
	My kids, I have three kids.
	They hate me, too.
	So you had, let's see, going back to you, maybe I'll wait on the polygamy thing when she's back.
	You said your best friend is a guy, and we've been friends for 16 years, and you think that.
	Oh, you disagree that it's not possible to be best friends with a straight guy.
	Yeah, because me and my friend Corey, like, we've been friends literally since we were 14.
	We've never once kissed.
	We don't even hug each other.
	We think it's, I don't want to say the word, but we think it's like gross to even hug each other.
	We hugged each other one time in our whole friendship, and that was when we were on Fear Factor.
	We moved on to the next round.
	We were excited.
	Oh, good.
	Oh, you were on Fear Factor.
	Okay, that's cool.
	I was 23.
	And does he have a girlfriend?
	No, he doesn't.
	I don't know if you're down to try this out.
	Would you be willing to text him right now and be like, hey, listen, I've been thinking about you.
	We can figure out the precise way to actually.
	That's fine.
	Like, but I think I've been, I've got feelings for you.
	Do you feel the same way?
	What was the way that we figured this?
	What was the best phrasing for this question?
	It's so complicated.
	We just told a girl to text him and be like, oh, like, do you want to hang out and snuggle?
	Have you ever thought about being more?
	What do you mean by that?
	I see him as my brother.
	He's my brother.
	Would you be down to text him?
	I can.
	Does he know you're on here, though?
	He does.
	Oh, maybe he's not bothered.
	But he's not watching.
	But if he knows.
	Yeah, test it out.
	He might know, though.
	Yeah, if he knows that you're coming off.
	No, it's the blue iPhone with my dog.
	Yep, that one.
	Because that's a great idea.
	But let me ask you: so, while Nick is getting the phone and while we get this text sent out, here I'll pass this down there.
	So, so what's the tech, before you send it, what's precisely the message that we're having her send out?
	She has to make it sound like her.
	What was it, Nick?
	Have you ever thought about being more than just friends?
	That's good.
	I think that's good.
	Yeah, just keep it.
	Have you ever thought about being more than just friends?
	I feel like if you guys want to get a relationship going, though, or he gets a girlfriend, things are going to change.
	The dynamic will change.
	So right now I may feel like, oh, it's him, like, it's possible to be friends, but because I had the same situation.
	I had two guys that I grew up with all the way for like 16 years, but then now they're both married.
	And it's naturally, you just, there's that separation, there's that respect that happens.
	But up until they were for real dating, like, yeah, we were super close.
	And it was like, oh, we're going to be friends forever.
	But that just doesn't really happen in like a marriage.
	I personally believe.
	Yeah, it's just been 16 years.
	And you would think within those 16 years, something would have happened.
	Some fondling something.
	But I feel like you guys are in a committed relationship.
	We're best friends.
	I talked to him about the children.
	Oh, so you're not in a marriage.
	Are you in a committed relationship?
	You're not in committed relationship with anyone.
	No, but I've been into relationships and he was there for me when those didn't work out.
	Like, it was never anything like that.
	No, she's attracted to white girls.
	No, likes white girls and Asians.
	I'm neither.
	So.
	Hey, I know this is.
	I'm black.
	I know.
	Okay.
	But see, I can get.
	I understand you because I have a best, had a best friend.
	We were really close for eight years.
	He got a girlfriend.
	His girlfriend wasn't.
	But look, I'm not the type of friend who I'm going to insert myself in his relationship.
	Like, I'm the type of friend.
	Like, I already know, like, hey, if I'm the girlfriend, I wouldn't like my boyfriend hanging out with her.
	So I would never put my friend in that.
	So we actually distance ourselves.
	Knows he can text me for anything, but as of now, I know that she's his best friend.
	I would never be like, oh, well, I'm still his best friend.
	No, you know, at the end of the day, you're with someone, that's your best friend.
	So, I got a question, though.
	Let's say you meet the top G. You meet a top G. Jesus.
	A top G. Andrew?
	Yeah, sure.
	And they look good, I'm not gonna lie.
	Ay, ay, ay, you need the Tachi.
	You're like, this is the one.
	This is the guy I want to marry.
	I want to have kids.
	I'm dropping everyone.
	Are we talking about you?
	You.
	I'm not even talking to you.
	Talking to me.
	I'm talking to her.
	So you do have this male best friend.
	You guys have been friends for 16 years.
	If the right man steps to you.
	Let's say, who's your.
	Do you have a celebrity crush?
	Michael B. Jordan?
	No.
	Michael B. Jordan.
	I don't know.
	Who's like a.
	Okay, I'll just say The Rock.
	The Rock.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	The Rock steps to you.
	I don't like his mentality, but yeah, The Rock.
	Wait, you don't like The Rock's mentality?
	Yeah, wait, what?
	If you guys dismantle it, I don't like how Bumsfeld.
	Wait, what's his name?
	The bodybuilder?
	Who's that?
	What's his name?
	Bums.
	Chris Bumstead.
	Bumsfeld.
	No.
	Bumstead.
	Chris Bumstead, you don't know the bodybuilder?
	Mm-mm.
	Okay, so.
	Somebody you just really are down for.
	So The Rock?
	Yeah, just because physically, he looks like the Rock.
	That's my type.
	The Rock is your.
	Have you seen his pictures like back in the day?
	With his turtleneck and his tucked in.
	Oh, yeah.
	And his fanny pads.
	That's funny.
	Wait, so okay.
	Your celebrity crush steps to you, and you've been dating.
	He just wants you to not be friends with this guy anymore.
	Do you do the friend breakup or do you?
	Yeah, Corey's not going anywhere.
	So your dream guy, your dream guy, he's perfect in every way, except that he doesn't want you to be a male best friend.
	That wouldn't make any sense because he could talk to him.
	He could FaceTime him.
	He's going to know who Corey is.
	When I've been in relationships, whenever I had arguments with my man, Corey had nothing to do with that.
	I didn't go bitch to Corey about it.
	He didn't come to me and say, oh, you should break up with him.
	He's never interfered in the relationship.
	But he's saying, like, in this scenario, I've never met with a celebrity.
	What your male friend is doing, let's assume your male friend is, everything's above board.
	There's absolutely no, at least on your part, there's no concerns there.
	He's not acted in a way that would give your potential mate any concern whatsoever.
	But it still is his desire for you to not have this male friend.
	Do you pick the male friend?
	Never in my life.
	Like ever again.
	Yeah, sure.
	Including your male friend of 16 years that you do have.
	Hey, that's the only one.
	Yeah.
	If I'm being honest, I'm not going to lie.
	I'm not giving up that friendship.
	Because he knows things about me that, like, he's like, we've experienced a lot together.
	Nothing sexual.
	We were never close like that.
	We don't sleep in the same bed.
	Nothing like that.
	It's never been like that.
	It's literally just been a broken relationship.
	I'm 30.
	We've been together.
	Not together.
	We've been friends since we were 14.
	I think that's nothing has been.
	I think that relationship is worth keeping.
	Yeah, I'm called a rider between me.
	Don't ever get rid of a friend like that because he's a really good friend.
	Could you see him in a different light?
	Ew, no.
	Ew, no.
	No.
	And especially because you guys have that.
	What is there to be jealous about?
	No, yeah.
	If he has a penis.
	No, he's not my type.
	I'm not his type.
	It would just never happen.
	I think it would more just naturally physical.
	If you really are all in with your husband, he will become your friend.
	There's only so much time and energy that you have, anyways.
	It's like you are going to have kids.
	You're going to have a home.
	It's like naturally, things are just going to.
	My attention is going to go to them, not to Corey.
	That sounds dumb.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Like, if my man had a girl that was a friend to him and they've never done anything sexual, I would not care.
	Right, but what if the guy, what if the guy that you're interested in, your dream guy, he does care and he's not listening to your justifications or your rationale or your reasoning.
	For him, it's just an outright deal breaker.
	Your dream guy steps to you.
	Everything that you want in looks, personality, his success, his income, whatever.
	Let's see, let's here, let's go to the extreme.
	He's a billionaire, massive peen.
	Oh my God, that's a mess.
	That's a mess.
	That's a fancy peen.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	I can never be a rich guy.
	Rich people have too many damn problems.
	What if he doesn't have problems?
	He's just your dream guy.
	What if he's like, he's either a dream guy?
	He's my dream guy.
	He's not going to tell me you dropped that friend.
	He's your dream guy.
	Okay, but hold on.
	He's your dream guy in every single way but one.
	Then he's not a dream guy.
	But no, but perfect.
	For this scenario, though, just shit to me perfectly.
	Do you guys want me to lie and say, yeah, I drop him?
	I wouldn't.
	Right, exactly.
	That's her dream level.
	That's your job.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I'm trying to think of a scenario.
	And that's the problem of society is thinking that we need to settle for stupid shit like that.
	Instead of stepping it up and say, that's just not my guy.
	That's not actually my dream guy.
	My dream guy will come in and he will be totally understood.
	If you literally met Corey, and you see our dynamic, you would see this.
	Let's FaceTime him.
	Let's ask him.
	Did he respond to him?
	To see if he's responded.
	Oh, you texted him?
	Yeah, she texted him.
	Oh, he answered?
	What did he say?
	He said, God know, then you fuck off lesbian.
	Why would you even ask?
	I feel like he's watching and he's like, let me make sure.
	I don't know if he was your brother.
	By logic, what are you just going to drop your brother?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Maybe he's watching the show.
	I know, like, literally, that's how we talk to each other.
	I call him a bitch all the time.
	You know, men don't like being called bitch.
	Is he gay?
	They are brother and sister by water or whatever you want to say.
	My mom calls him her white son.
	Like, it's just not, it's a white guy.
	He's not a big buff black dude with dread, sexy.
	It's not like that.
	Is he cute?
	He's a skinny white boy.
	Would that make a difference, Nick?
	Is if the guy was in, if you didn't feel any competitive, like, you know, you can fuck her better.
	You know you look better.
	You know you make better money.
	You know she likes you better.
	Would you still feel that same, like, hell no, you can't hang out with that little twerpy guy that you're not even into?
	Doesn't matter if he's 20.
	But what if it were adopted brother and sister?
	It doesn't matter.
	Okay, well, how far do we extend this, right?
	So, okay.
	Well, you should trust your girl.
	You should let her go to a singles club, and all clubs are singles clubs, and let her get drunk and let her dance.
	Let her?
	You own her?
	Let's go home to her parents.
	It happened to me.
	I acknowledge.
	You're going to get to know the woman that I am.
	I don't go to clubs.
	I'm not talking about, I'm speaking in generalities here.
	And let her go.
	How far do you take your how far do you take that?
	This is, I'm a grown-ass woman.
	Nobody owns me.
	I don't get permission.
	They either want to be with me and they're down for it or they're not.
	That's not my fucking problem.
	Okay, so if I'm in a room.
	So hold on, just to be clear, you're a grown-ass woman and you're in a monogamous relationship.
	And at some point in the relationship, you determine, hmm, I want to go fuck somebody else.
	And your boyfriend says, no, I'm not letting you do that.
	It wouldn't go that way.
	I would bring it to my partner and I would say, this is a desire that I have.
	Oh, well, that's fake up for you.
	I'm having this.
	I'm having this fantasy.
	Just like he could come to me and say, there's this girl at the gym that's super hot.
	What do you think?
	I think confessing temptation could be healthy, but that's why you have other people to come up with.
	I understand, but let me just interject.
	Sometimes it's just a matter of needing to have the safety to be honest with the person and say, I'm having this desire.
	Let's talk it through.
	Why am I having this?
	Is there a need that's not getting met?
	That's a separate conversation.
	But at the end of the day, if I truly wanted to go and sleep with somebody else, this or that, it's never a permission thing.
	But what I'm trying to.
	Yeah, you have the agency to go out and do whatever you want.
	Hold on, let me finish.
	What I'm trying to articulate here is that the relationship is over.
	Okay, it's not going to be a controlling thing, but I'm letting you know that if you're Lol Paladins donated $200, you need to let her spoil the D. Otherwise, you're controlling and abusive.
	Send these 304s back to the streets.
	Well put, Lol Paladin.
	So, look, I am going to be upfront about my expectations and standards and preferences.
	Can we stop interrupting?
	Stop.
	So, if a girl is inclined to, for example, go out to nightclubs, hey, if you want to go do that, you have the power to go do it.
	Our relationship is over.
	If you want to, I mean, clear, obviously, I wouldn't even consider like a girl couldn't even step to me and be like, I want to see with another, I want to be with another person.
	Exactly.
	So, that's the thing.
	There is no conflict.
	But what you need to understand is you need to learn how to let people finish their sentence.
	I'm sorry.
	Fully finish their sentence because it's very complicated when there's multiple people talking.
	Only one person can be heard at a time.
	Go ahead.
	I was just saying that we, like a person like you and I, if we have those differences in philosophies or whatever you want to say, relationship orientation is what I call it, we would never end up in an exclusive relationship with each other.
	We're just not compatible, and that's fine.
	I would only be with the compatible men who operate the same way, right?
	So, in a sense, it works perfectly because they're the same way.
	We all have the expectation, we have the same understanding, and that's it.
	If we hit a road where we're not compatible, we just part ways.
	Easy peasy.
	Now, Andrew, I've heard you had interesting conversations that's perhaps somewhat related to the whole friend dynamic here, related to submission.
	Andrew, I'd like to perhaps hear you have a bit of a back and forth with her when it comes.
	Do you consider yourself submissive?
	Like, would you be submissive to a man?
	100%.
	I want a man to leave.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	So, let me kind of give you my perspective here, and you can tell me what you think.
	But if you're in a committed relationship or a woman expects you to be in a committed relationship, wouldn't it be a great sign of respect from somebody who claims that they're submissive to remove from the category any male friends that they may have?
	As men often say, it's not that I don't trust you, I don't trust them.
	The truth is both, though, right?
	The truth is, is that they're looking for respect from their woman, and they know that as the old saying goes, a shoulder to cry on becomes a you can finish it, right?
	A shoulder to cry on becomes a what?
	I don't know, but I can imagine.
	I have no idea.
	I've never even heard of it.
	It becomes a D to ride on, right?
	A shoulder to cry on becomes a D to ride.
	I've never heard of it.
	That's the old adage, right?
	And it's true.
	So, if you guys will hear me for just a second, isn't it true that when you're in a vulnerable state, all of you probably on this panel have had male friends who have probably tried to exploit that so that they could have sex with you?
	Am I wrong?
	No.
	A male friend?
	No.
	Yes.
	Or a male.
	A male period.
	Well, a male question in general, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	So, I mean, so, so, men, uh, especially when we're going through high school, middle school, things like that, we see all sorts of pathetic fuckers who do this type of shit, right?
	They kind of, they're like, ah, you know, she just broke up with such and such.
	Oh, that's terrible, sweetheart.
	I'm so sorry that that happened to you.
	You know, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
	All of you know exactly what I'm talking about.
	That's kind of my line on this is: don't you think that it's really respectful if you want a committed relationship?
	He says, Look, I'm the focus then.
	If I'm your man, I'm the focus, and that's that.
	And he means to deserve that, right?
	Hang on, let her finish.
	You've had a lot of speaking time, no, no disrespect to you, but let us have this exchange if you don't mind.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, so I agree with you because I've been in two relationships, and in both relationships, they were the main focus.
	It wasn't Corey.
	Every time I went to go out and hang out with people, it was literally with my man.
	I was with my man 24-7.
	And for me personally, I'm not sexually attracted to Corey.
	He's not sexually attracted to me.
	It has never been like that.
	We've even had this conversation before.
	I said, Have you ever looked at me like that?
	He's like, Ew, no.
	I was like, Okay, good.
	Thank God.
	Because that would have been weird for our relationship if he ever told me.
	Sure, sure.
	Well, I mean, we're just going to assume it's all true, or we'll assume he's your gay friend or whatever.
	Regardless of all of that, if your man says to you, listen, as a sign of respect to me, I want all men cut out of your life.
	Okay?
	I want them out of your life, and I need to be the focus of your life.
	Isn't that true, submission?
	No, because, okay, if I'm being honest, I would just say my mother and my dad, they've been together for over 30 years, and her best friend is a man.
	And I asked my dad, Dad, have you ever had a problem with their friendship?
	And my dad told me no.
	He said, why would I have a problem with that?
	I like Julian.
	Like, there is.
	And the thing is, is that perhaps inside of that dynamic, this was able to work.
	But the truth is, is that the chances of fidelity or infidelity significantly decrease if you don't put yourself in a position to commit infidelity, right?
	So, in other words, if you're a man and you have a job where you're at a strip club or something like this, or you're around tons of promiscuous women, I would say that your chances of infidelity would increase no matter how high your virtue is because you could just have a moment of weakness, right?
	You could just fuck up, have a terrible moment of weakness, ruin everything for yourself due to that.
	And so, usually, what I see people in successful relationships do is move themselves away from anything that could cause any sort of potential problem for them because we're only human, right?
	So, if a man were to ask you, like, look, I understand that this guy is an old friend of yours.
	I get it, right?
	And I'm not even saying that you would do anything, but as a sign of respect to me, if you truly are submissive and you want me, then it needs to just be me.
	Doesn't that seem reasonable?
	Can you meet all the women's needs?
	No.
	I understand what you're saying.
	Let us assume for a moment that you can't.
	Let us assume that you have some failures, that you're not perfect because nobody is, including you.
	Why is it that it's an unreasonable thing to request that if you want to be with me for the rest of your life, I don't ever want to have to worry about you?
	And you know what?
	You know how I can always be assured that I never have to worry about you?
	Because I know that I'm the person you're focusing on.
	That's it.
	And I know that because you show me this huge respect by focusing on no other men but me.
	So I don't even have sex at all because I don't like being touched unless I'm in a relationship.
	So there would be no worry about me stepping out.
	There's no point in me stepping out for what?
	What's the reason?
	So for him to think or assume I could possibly step out with Corey, that's dumb.
	We would have done something within the last 16 years.
	Nothing would happen.
	I'm not even disputing any of this.
	No, yeah.
	Like, you know you far better than I do.
	No, yeah, I see exactly what you're saying.
	You know you far better than me.
	I'm not even disputing any of that.
	What I'm saying is, I think what you're doing is you're internalizing from your perspective what I'm saying.
	Externalize instead and look at it from the man's perspective.
	From his perspective, not your perspective.
	You could be correct about all of this.
	In fact, he could even be wrong.
	But part of submission is that even if he could be wrong, you follow him anyway.
	Because the truth is, is that when you're submitted, he gets almost everything right.
	And if he's wrong about a couple things, and that's what it takes for you to be in that kind of relationship, isn't that worth it?
	Can I say something?
	Hang on, let her finish.
	Hang on.
	We're almost done.
	We're almost done with the exchange.
	I can't end a 16-year friendship with someone that has been in my life.
	I just can't do it.
	Now, if that's the only flaw that you can find in me, then I think I'm doing a pretty damn good job at being a good woman.
	That's the only thing.
	And listen, I'm not, again, I don't even need to really dispute that.
	So I understand though.
	But think of it from the man's perspective.
	Yes.
	What he's saying is that you're picking him over your man.
	That's how he, I know, I know you don't think so.
	Externalized.
	I know, I'm totally.
	Yeah, think of it from their perspective.
	He's going to think that shit.
	Okay.
	He's going to think she's not willing to give me the respect that I'm asking for in this committed relationship and put me first.
	Why would he waste his time?
	He would be put first because he's going to be the one putting babies in me.
	Come on, you know, I'm going to explain.
	He's going to be aware of that.
	From the assurance standpoint, the way that he knows that the babies are his is that you're not around other men.
	That's the old.
	So think about it this way.
	Before we had paternity tests, which are new, right?
	They're new to this century.
	Before we had paternity tests, the best way to assure that your offspring was yours is that your woman was exclusive to you.
	That's the only way you could know.
	So it's kind of built into men that if your woman's around a lot of other men, they could be unsure.
	And so, yeah, of course that would cause an insecurity.
	That's probably a good insecurity to cause, right?
	So me being in the fitness industry and being around a lot of guys that work out, are you telling me that he's going to say, nope, you can't go to any fitness event?
	No, I don't think so.
	I don't think that if it was in a professional setting that you're working around men or something like this, I think that most men are reasonable when it comes to such a setting.
	But I think that if you're out hanging out with other men exclusively, doing things with them, maybe you and your friend like to go to movies or maybe you like to go to his house and hang out or maybe you like to go do A, B, or C.
	That I think that it's reasonable for them to see it as a sign of disrespect.
	Yeah.
	Well, I'd have to, we'd have to have that conversation because I'd be very open about everything.
	I'm not going to lie.
	I'm not going to sugarcoat anything.
	And like I said, I don't have sex at all.
	Me personally, I know there's a lot of other whores out here that will fuck their friends.
	I'm not like that.
	I don't have a roster of guys.
	I'm dating with intent.
	I want to get married and have children.
	And if a guy were to tell me, you know, I don't think you can be friends with Corey anymore, then I guess we could, I guess him and I aren't going to work.
	Because my dad loves Corey and my mom, everybody.
	Then what you told me is that your highest value is always going to be Corey.
	It's not.
	It's not.
	Because if it wasn't, we need to get it.
	You've got to think of it externally from you.
	From the man's perspective, your highest value is your best friend.
	So he's always going to feel like he's second rate to your best friend.
	And why wouldn't he think that?
	I can see that, but that wouldn't be the case.
	I know that that may not be the truth of the matter, but if it's truly submission, if it's truly submission, then even when he's wrong, right, or you think he's wrong, that is what submission is.
	Even when you think he's wrong, you still submit.
	And that's where I think this disconnect happens constantly between men and women when it comes to submission.
	They don't really know what that means.
	I think the pretext, too, is maybe like this is an actual leader, someone that we can trust, someone that is worthy of being submissive to.
	I think if he's not, then I mean.
	That's the opposite of worthy.
	No, no, no, that's the opposite.
	Listen, let us assume for a moment you chose him because he had all these leadership skills that you just loved, right?
	And you married him and you have submitted to him.
	There might be years where he does things you don't like.
	There might be years where you have a rocky relationship.
	There might be years where you're working through this in marriage, right?
	And you disagree with most of his choices.
	But that's what submission is.
	That's what submission in marriage is.
	It's work, right?
	It's work.
	And you don't want to abandon that because you think he's making all the wrong decisions.
	Because the truth is, is that you could be making the wrong decisions, right?
	You don't know.
	That's what submission means.
	So, minus underscore to underscore 100 donated $200.
	Red one, where are you from?
	What is your relationship status?
	What do you think of Brian?
	What would you like to share with the audience today?
	She answered all the time.
	If you want to give a quick answer to that.
	Hi, guys.
	My name's Dee.
	My relationship status is single.
	I think Brian is really cool, really to his self.
	I don't really know what's going on in his head, but I've got a figure out.
	And then I try not to offend and I try to learn.
	And what I'd like to put in, I'd like to learn and I'd like to add in whenever I can.
	And it's hard when you have a panel of girls all talking at the same time and that's nobody's fault.
	And I think it's beautiful that we're having even with him here, Andrew here.
	Like, I love the good vibration, right?
	It's 46.4 hertz going on right now.
	Here we go.
	Look at the numbers.
	Vibrations happening.
	Everybody's happy.
	I'm enjoying it.
	Yeah, if you don't mind, though, just real quick, so we can wrap this up before we move it on, Madison, if you don't mind.
	Did you ever see that movie, Braveheart?
	Did you ever see that movie?
	Really?
	You never saw it?
	Too young.
	She's too young.
	Braveheart came out like 30 years ago.
	Yeah, so what?
	She's 30.
	Classic movies.
	They still watch movies, even if it's before their time.
	Not everybody.
	Okay, so in this movie, essentially a nobleman in one scene, he ends up having sex with a man's wife on the night of her wedding with him.
	Jesus.
	And he spends the whole rest of the movie seething about it.
	And this was done without consent, of course.
	And he spends the rest of the movie seething about it until he gets the opportunity to deal with this nobleman.
	And when he deals with him, it's very brutal.
	It's not a good death for the nobleman.
	Let's put it that way.
	But if you want that kind of relationship where a man would do that on your behalf, he's not going to want to worry about fucking Corey, right?
	He's not going to want to worry about Corey.
	He's not going to want to be thinking about Corey.
	He's going to want to be thinking only about you and knowing that you're thinking only about him.
	Okay?
	That's all I'm saying.
	I get you.
	All right.
	Where is Brian?
	Oh, I was just going to say that.
	You know how you mentioned, like, we all have that one that kind of got away or whatever.
	So someone that I was in a relationship with for two years, this is when like 2015, 14, he was really adamant about me not being friends with someone I was friends with for so long that was a male.
	And I was so rebellious against it.
	I was literally saying everything that you would saying, you're saying.
	And now I'm like, dude, like, it's just, it's a sacrifice that we're willing to make.
	That wasn't like the only thing that was like the deal breaker, but looking back, I'm like, man, he was such a good man.
	He had great leadership skills.
	He was loving.
	But I was just looking at it from, but I've been with this person, or I've been, I've known this guy for so long.
	Like, we like, you know, X, Y, and Z, everything you're saying.
	But looking back, I'm just like, man, that was like such a huge thing that I wish I regret.
	Like, you know, that's one of my regrets in life is just not submitting to that and letting go because that could have been someone that I could have had an amazing relationship in marriage with, you know, and like that was feminism poisoning your mind.
	No, 100%.
	Like, it was like, oh, I, you know, it just sounds though that Corey is a little bit of a different situation.
	You know, he's a brother.
	And he could be an amazing brother.
	He could be amazing.
	My friend was amazing.
	That's what women do.
	They'll go, they'll listen to this, and when they see another woman faltering, going, you know what, actually, this makes a lot of sense and it could lead to an inroad to happiness, they sabotage it.
	It's self-sabotage.
	And they sabotage it as quickly as they possibly can for other women.
	I don't know why they do that.
	But that's the toxic side of that.
	That's the toxic side.
	There's also a healthy side where you do need to evaluate what are my anchor relationships.
	I would call Corey an anchor relationship, a ride or die.
	He could be a biological brother.
	He's a different category than just somebody I've known for 10 years and he's not adding that much in my life and I'm going to pick this.
	It's not for you to make the determination in a committed relationship.
	I understand.
	I'm just simply saying it's not a black, it's not as black and white of an issue as it's trying to be.
	I think it is.
	I think that if, on the one hand, you say, I want to have a man who's worth submitting to, I think that that man is going to be somebody who you consider high virtue and not only high virtue, but is going to take care of all sorts of problems you don't even see.
	You don't even want to worry about it.
	He doesn't want to fucking worry about you either.
	He doesn't want to worry about shit.
	He doesn't want to worry about fucking Corey.
	He doesn't want to worry about your relationship with her.
	He doesn't want to worry about shit.
	And you know how you can give him that great peace of mind by not doing it.
	And that's the ultimate sign of respect.
	And you know, that type of man who you show that kind of respect to will do anything.
	You know what I think would be?
	They'll give you the whole world on a platter.
	What if he can make her happy by being best friends with Corey?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because, Andrew, wouldn't you want to be friends with the guy and feel him out?
	See, this is the disconnect.
	It's not about her happiness.
	It's about what is submission.
	And the cardinal, when we're looking at this, we're looking at what is the dynamic between men and women which works best?
	What is the dynamic for family that works best?
	Here's the dynamic in family that works best.
	Proven over and over and over again.
	So if you think about tradition, think of it in these terms: experiments which worked.
	That's tradition.
	So here, the family unit of a mom and a dad and children works better than anything else.
	But what do you mean by works better?
	In an economic sense, how does it work better?
	All outcomes for the man, woman, and children, if they stay together in an intact family, are universally, universally better than any other single dynamic we've ever seen.
	Universally better the outcome.
	Well, just because it's better than the other shit show doesn't mean it's optimal.
	It still doesn't mean that it's happening.
	Well, hang on.
	So unless you can give a counter to any family dynamic that works better than the nuclear or cross-generational family, then you have no leg to stand on.
	And so here's what I'm going to do: tell me a family dynamic which is better than a nuclear or cross-generational family.
	Just give me one.
	I think a more tribal society, to be honest with you, is a better structure because that way, if a man dies, if he goes through a mental break or something and he's no longer stable, that woman has a social structure of brothers, uncles, aunt, whatever, best friends who just slip right in.
	And guess what?
	Those kids have already gotten used to Uncle Corey and blah, blah, blah.
	Still already have that social structure with the people who matter the most, their blood.
	Okay, I am.
	Their bloodline.
	But guess what?
	When you have a woman like you can step in and take Corey is.
	I have no blood men in my life who are healthy by any means.
	Hence why I've had a stream of not the best relationships because my dad was the point.
	The point, the point would be for a woman like me, it would be more likely to be a matter of time.
	You're making my point for me.
	You're saying inside of your own life, absent this intact family unit, you had worse outcomes.
	That's my point.
	No, no, no.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I had an intact family unit with very abusive people.
	Which led to.
	Well, wait, I'm sorry.
	Maybe I'm wrong.
	I'm going to check my notes here.
	Did you say that your parents are still married?
	No, they're not still married.
	But I came from a, my, my biological parents never got married.
	My mother, when I was three, married my stepdad.
	What are you talking about?
	You're proving his point, girl.
	You're proving my point.
	You said that you have had so many broken relationships or men that were unhealthy, and it's because your family structure was broken as well.
	No, what I'm saying is, I came from as much of a traditional structure as there's a mom, and there's a mom, there's a mom, there's a dad.
	Well, yeah, there's two biologically there has to be a mom and dad.
	We're talking about a traditional unconditional love wouldn't have all these rules of we can't be friends with Corey.
	That's not unconditional love.
	I hate to break it to you.
	So we're dealing with the best that you're bringing me to the table.
	Hang on.
	I hate to break it to you, but the truth is, is that you, what you've done here is you have demonstrated very well my point, which is from broken homes.
	In a perfect world, if a man met all of my needs and he was the most healthy, godly man and he went to God every moment of every day and made sure that he was fact-checking himself and he had pastors or leaders or ministers, grandpas who were healthy men and he was every choice he was going to make.
	He went and hashed it out with God and his elders.
	And then he came and stepped it to me and said, You know what?
	I know that Corey's your friend, but I'm just getting a little vibe there.
	You know, can we talk about this?
	And then he brings the wisdom.
	It's not just he's coming to her and saying.
	It's not just he's coming and saying you can't be friends with him.
	Yeah, hold on.
	Okay, okay, but one of the things that I just made it up.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Before you go on a diatribe, just like, let's do an exchange, a good faith exchange, just kind of one point at a time.
	So point one that you're talking about here, again, makes my point for me.
	So you say, listen, me, me, If a man will do X for me, if me, if me, me, me, if also me, and then on top of that, a little bit more me, with a sprinkle of me, with a dash of me, with a cherry on top of me, then I will submit.
	Well, at the end of the day, I'm all I have.
	Hang on, let me finish.
	So then what happens is you split off from what you consider traditionalism because that's not traditionalism.
	I'm not traditional.
	Yeah, I know, but that's my point again.
	You're not traditional, and the experiment of your broken family is exactly why you're in the middle of the day.
	I'm super happy that certain people live in a society and a world and a family system where traditional works perfectly fine and it's beautiful.
	Not all of us come from that blessing.
	That's his point.
	No, but I'm saying I literally do not live in a safe environment.
	Well, it's not going to be safe if the entire environment has to be revolve around me, Well, guess what?
	Like I said, I'm a mother.
	I can't go down.
	I have had men come in my life and promise me the world.
	They're going to take care of the kids.
	They're going to pay the bills.
	They're going to do this.
	They're going to do that.
	Here's a marriage.
	Here's a ring.
	Here's a ceremony, blah, blah, blah.
	And then I get into it.
	And I agree to all of that.
	And then shit goes really bad.
	But I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you the truth.
	And this is not a fun truth, but it is the truth.
	Stepfather myself.
	Okay?
	I have stepchildren myself.
	The truth of the matter is, is that unless you as a woman, if you have children, especially with another man, and you're asking a man to share his resources, take care of those children, submission becomes 10 times more important.
	Because what value are you bringing to the table for them?
	What value?
	What value do you actually do?
	I cook, I clean, I fuck really well.
	I suck dick really well.
	I get the bills paid.
	And I will take care of the kids.
	No, that's not true.
	I'm out here as an audience.
	Do you think that women with no children can do that way better than you probably?
	No, honey, trust me.
	I teach the girls how to do it.
	Listen, do you think that it's really that difficult to satiate a man's sexual needs?
	But guess what?
	A lot of these women have so many traumas, they can't even get there.
	They're scared of dicks.
	I'm talking real talk here.
	I'm out in the field.
	You don't believe your trauma?
	I have had to heal through massive amounts of trauma.
	But like even right now, you said like, all I have is myself.
	When he was saying, like, me, me, me, me.
	But that is.
	But hold on, hold on.
	But right, but that is because you feel like all you have is yourself because you didn't have a mom and you didn't have that structure.
	You didn't have that support.
	But you can't even, hold on.
	You can't even accept a husband to help you carry the burden.
	That's not true.
	However, I've had a, I've had, my parents are married 50 years and they're happy.
	They have more sex than anyone I know.
	I love that.
	Amen.
	And I feel the same way.
	As me.
	Exactly.
	Because we live in a particular system.
	Some of us just don't fit these cookie cutter molds of how it's supposed to go.
	As long as you believe yourself happy and you both can make the relationship work the way you want it to.
	They don't work, though.
	So here's the stats on polyamorous relationships.
	95% of them fail.
	95% fail.
	How many monogamous relationships do you think are actually very happy?
	Just because people stay together, which is only, what, one and two stay together?
	It's not happiness.
	How many are happy?
	It's not about happiness.
	It's not about happiness too.
	It's the sacrifice and the commitment.
	Especially if you made it under God as a matter of fact.
	I've been through fucking hell.
	And at this point, I'm just here to have a good time.
	So, see, but you say that now, but when you're 80, and I'm not going to say you, but a lot of people that think like you, they're going to be 80 and alone.
	It's not true.
	They're going to have their mom there.
	The best statistics are their friend with benefits.
	They might have a spouse.
	They might have two spouses.
	You guys are.
	I know, but you're relating that because your mommy's saying that relationships cannot be the reality.
	Guys, one at a time.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Let her give her point to the gal in the center.
	This is one West.
	Religious way.
	Gal in the center.
	Let her give her point.
	You can respond.
	I promise.
	Go ahead.
	No, all I'm saying is that you can think of all these realities in your head like, oh, well, that could happen.
	That could happen.
	But that's not reality of what really happened.
	Do you know how we were designed?
	Let her finish her point.
	Hang on.
	Go ahead.
	Keep going.
	Just go, speak, speak.
	All right.
	So, yeah.
	So you're saying all these things, but the reality is, even like, if you look at the statistics, feminists that are, they're alone and they have their own medications, antidepressants, like they hate.
	Self-Hole.
	There's so many fucking variables that go into this.
	You can't say it's because go look at other societies that aren't running on.
	Can I finish my point, though?
	What is two plus two?
	Yeah, let's finish.
	Let's start there.
	Because if we're not at that point on a framework, we're all answering.
	Answer what is two plus two.
	Two plus two what?
	Oh, so I'm going to go to the bathroom.
	Two plus two.
	Arithmetic.
	But are we talking about?
	Algebra.
	Jess, like I told you, math is like a piece of paper with the number representation of a two column.
	Okay, look, you're like how I added up our age earlier.
	One plus one in math.
	Two cups.
	There we go.
	Two cups.
	Okay, cool.
	Let me, we got to get caught up on a couple chats here, okay?
	All right.
	Maddie, I'm going to have you read these.
	Go ahead.
	Hey, a couple.
	The Epistles LMAO is an underground Gen Z band who sings in vibes, tongues, and word salad.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	Let's go with that, Andrew.
	Let's go with that.
	We'll go with that.
	Sounds good.
	I like Andrew.
	Thank you very much.
	I like Andrew.
	I like you too, Andrew.
	Go ahead.
	I'm a likable guy.
	I was just a wet when I went potty.
	Stop.
	Blondie in the brown shirt needs to shut the F up and stop injecting nonsense into every conversation.
	No one cares.
	Oh my God.
	Who the hell?
	Nick, you gotta fix it.
	It's behind Andrew.
	Do you see what I'm talking about?
	On Center Zoom.
	The layers are fucked up.
	Got it, I got it, got it.
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	Yeah, Nick.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I love you now.
	You can fix it.
	Hold on.
	Go to Center Zoom.
	Can you explain?
	Twitch alerts.
	Pull it.
	Drag it up.
	Above Discord.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Can you explain what the fabric of American culture is made of, in your opinion?
	Who's this?
	This came in 34 minutes ago, so I don't know who it's directly.
	I think it's based off of, I know this is debatable, but Christian values.
	It's a Christian nation.
	The Declaration of Independence, this whole founding fathers, although there's darkness to it, there's always going to be darkness.
	We're in the world.
	But a lot of it is based off of Christian values.
	But we have removed God so much from this culture that now we're a godless society and people are just running off of no values.
	It's just their truth.
	Whatever feels right, whatever is going with the flow, whatever is just the vibe right now.
	And there's no real foundation.
	So I feel like that was the American culture and we've moved away from it.
	But I believe there's a revival happening as well.
	That's my opinion.
	Okay.
	Go ahead, Madison, read this one.
	For Andrew, just for argument's sake, extreme polygamy, such as was practiced for the first 500,000 years ago of human prehistory kept us alive during the ice ages.
	Nope.
	Not only do I not believe it, but that is not what the archaeological evidence supports, nor the DNA evidence.
	That's not what it supports.
	Okay, thank you, Law Paladins.
	Appreciate it.
	Moving over to Jess here.
	So, Jess, in our.
	Hold on, my notes just bugged out.
	Okay, you're.
	But assuming even it did, even if it did, let us assume that.
	If you really believe in evolution as being a foundation towards, you know, thing in society which we're evolving towards, the polygamy, or polygamy is not the order of the day, but monogamy is.
	So we evolve to be monogamous.
	So even if I grant your argument, who cares?
	Andrew, you know what?
	That's a great way to put it.
	And that's what I had discovered.
	This is a great point.
	And it's simple.
	You have 20 seconds to make your point.
	I think monogamy is something to build up to, not something that you should start out as.
	That's the only point I was making.
	You should evolve into the place of monogamy.
	That's all.
	You're not going to evolve in 80 years.
	Evolution is a small, it's a tiny, minute process.
	No, no, no.
	I'm simply saying it could take you a year to evolve into monogamy with somebody.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Everybody.
	Yeah, so it tells then be promiscuous to destroy your chances of monogamy.
	That seems like it's counterproductive.
	I love sex.
	Yeah, I'm going to get it where I'm going to go.
	Your chances of being in a monogamous relationship greatly decrease.
	At least with somebody who's valuable.
	Okay, here it sucks about it.
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	All right.
	So moving on over to Jess.
	Jess, you said you're in a relationship, but you wrote in your pre-show notes.
	You're definitely on rocky terms.
	Are things rocky in your relationship?
	And this is, you have, how many kids again?
	Just one.
	This is what the father of your kids, right?
	Eula sees the pagan donated $200.
	Some way to raise your children blonde frequency.
	You twist the adage, prepare your child for the road, not he rode for the child.
	Thomas froze.
	Wow, that's some Shakespeare shit.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Lil.
	Thank you.
	And we got 200 bucks for any minimum cliff notes.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	So you're on rocky terms.
	What's going on with your relationship?
	It's just, we started off really quickly.
	In terms of before I met him, I was single for six years.
	I was celibate for three years before I met him.
	And when I met him, I told him precisely what it was that I wanted.
	And I felt like I was like too on his end as to what it was, as to what it was that he wanted.
	I'm more definitely of the traditional type in a relationship.
	And he's definitely much more liberal.
	And that's something that I guess was kept from me when I was getting into a relationship with him.
	Liberal in what way?
	Liberal in a sense of politically or in terms of his views on relationship dynamics?
	Yes, yes.
	So you guys 50-50 type thing?
	Or what do you think?
	Yeah.
	I'm very, I'm, I'm moderate.
	I'm conservative in some aspects and then I'm liberal in others.
	I'm not completely closed-minded.
	I can see another person's perspective.
	But I was very open with him with what I wanted.
	And I feel like I was when I found out he cheated, because he cheated on me.
	When I found out that he cheated on me, I completely left him alone because I was 24 at the time.
	Didn't, I was like, I'm not here for this or whatever.
	But then I found out I was pregnant.
	So that kind of tied us down right now.
	Okay.
	So.
	Oh.
	Natalia, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
	You're a legend.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You said you disagree with something about the show, the degrading.
	Can you do you care to elaborate?
	No, I guess just in terms of just how with certain guests, how they address the women?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Can you give me an example?
	Calling them bitch.
	Get the fuck out.
	Like, there's a certain way you could talk to people to get them to understand that what they're saying or doing is wrong.
	Is probably what she meant.
	Well, I'm asking her, not you, so the words ought to come out of her mouth.
	Go ahead.
	I think in terms of, let's say, yes, specifically, Chase, for example.
	I think, you know, just in terms of, oh, God, but just, I guess, in terms of how I don't agree with the whole, he's a whole Christian man and everything.
	I mean, I'm Catholic.
	I'm.
	So I just feel like there's a way to get to people.
	You don't have to agree with them, but you also just have to do it in a sense of compassion to get to someone in terms of how do I explain this, Correct?
	Well, compassion takes multiple forms.
	So compassion, occasionally, well, not even occasionally, depending on who you're talking to, sometimes language is going to seem vulgar.
	It's going to seem brutal.
	You are entering into verbal jiu-jitsu when you're trying to change a person's mind.
	But outside of that scope, you're trying to change the mind of thousands upon thousands of people who watch as well.
	So Chase, uniquely, has had millions of people see his clips.
	They've gone viral all over the internet.
	So he feels like he has a responsibility to explain himself to you in a way which you are going to, maybe it's jarring or maybe it sounds brutal, but it's a way to not only get his message to you, but to millions of other people.
	That seems reasonable to me.
	Now, I can understand where it can feel like it's degrading.
	But there's some people who it's going to always seem degrading to if they're on the other end of the ire when you're trying to wake them up, right?
	I understand that, but I just feel like there's a way to deliver a message to people and other ways.
	But I mean, like I said, I'm open.
	Everyone has different forms of communication and how they say things.
	I just personally.
	Okay, well, I'd like to get into specifics here because first off, Chase has not been on the show in something like eight or nine months.
	He hasn't been on.
	I'm talking about the previous eclipse.
	I re-watch a bunch of the clips, so that's right.
	Well, it's hard because one, Chase isn't here.
	He also hasn't been on the show in nine months.
	So I can't really.
	If there's something I could try to speak on his behalf, if you can point me to something specifically that Chase has said that you disagree with.
	Is that Sovereign Bro?
	No.
	Sovereign bro?
	Is that a question?
	Okay.
	Stop.
	Why don't you answer the question?
	Go ahead.
	I can't really pinpoint a certain one.
	I mean, I could, if you'd like, it's just, I'm just talking about the deliverance of certain things.
	Okay, what specifically has Chase delivered that you disagree with?
	Not what he says, because I agree with the things that he says.
	I just want to say that he's not a person.
	What did he say?
	What did he say?
	And what did he say?
	And how did he say it?
	I think, like I said, just the tone of it.
	Just in general, just what was his tone?
	I can't.
	don't even remember the topic at hand i like i said like condescending or maybe like i said i just i it's just it just depends like like on how you you speak to the person and and in terms of you're um You're a Catholic, right?
	Yes.
	Have you ever seen your priest spit on the devil?
	No.
	No?
	You've never seen that?
	No.
	No, you've never seen them do a harsh rebuke?
	No.
	You've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke ever?
	No.
	You've never seen your priest do a harsh rebuke towards the demonic ever?
	No.
	Not once.
	No.
	Well, what kind of priests don't even rebuke the devil?
	I'm not sure how to...
	So you, as a Catholic in your tradition, you believe in the demonic.
	You believe in what's called demonic obsession.
	Demonic obsession is the first pathway in Catholicism towards demonic possession.
	It's the most common obsession.
	Priests often in the Catholic Church will give harsh rebukes towards the demonic, especially for those who are suffering from obsession.
	Yes.
	In my church, well, in my Catholic church, my priest, he usually always is very, he likes to keep everything light.
	He will always just make sure that everyone's awake because he has this joke where like everyone falls asleep in church or people go to Catholic church and they fall asleep or they're falling.
	So he basically always tries to keep it up.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Well, I'm just going to have.
	But if you're a Catholic, you have exorcists in your church.
	They exorcise demons out of people.
	That's what they do.
	You have a whole branch in Catholicism called exorcists.
	Do you think that they go and they're just like nice to demonically possessed people?
	Do you think that when they're rebuking demons, they're like, now listen, sweetie, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I really need that demon to come out.
	Can we just, can we, okay, now, wait, Fred, we don't want to upset her.
	We're just trying to get the demon out.
	We're just going to sprinkle a little holy water on her head.
	Do you think that that's how they do that?
	Like I said, that's just my perspective on how to say things to people.
	And in terms of me, when I'm talking to someone about something, and even if I don't agree with them or I just don't, it's just, I just look at it differently.
	I'm just saying the tone of it.
	That's it.
	Okay, I need Chase is not here.
	I need a specific example.
	Like I said, I don't have a specific example.
	How did he say it then?
	You don't even need to use what he said for baby.
	I guess just how did he say it?
	I guess just when I have a conversation with people, I don't raise my voice at anyone.
	I try to always stay leveled.
	Just just to really be able to have both of our points stemmed across, you know, like I. OK, well, let me just defend Chase.
	Chase is actually one of the most respectful guests we've had.
	He typically doesn't raise his voice.
	Sometimes he can be animated or charismatic, but he's typically very polite and respectful.
	Now, it's possible, look, he's been on multiple episodes.
	These episodes are hours long.
	I haven't committed to memory every single thing that Chase has said, and I haven't committed to memory every single way he's said it or his tone.
	But I mean, at least in my recollection, generally speaking, Chase tends to have been always very respectful to the guests.
	Yeah.
	I was like, what's her name, Kiko?
	I would say she, she's disrespectful.
	I would say she's raised her voice.
	That is a good point.
	I would say that.
	Now, what is interesting about, oh, sorry, go ahead.
	Do you want to cut it?
	No, I was just going to say, that's something that I also notice a lot with the liberal side is if you say something that is factually proven, they get upset, they get angry, and then they get violent.
	And I would, and I noticed that with her when he would say something she doesn't like, she's like, man, fuck you, I can't believe you just said, no, you're an asshole.
	Like, that's insane.
	We can have a conversation.
	It's a trigger.
	It's a tricky thing.
	And true.
	Totally true.
	And I've never seen that on a conservative side, to be honest.
	And I see that a lot on that side.
	And it's just not.
	I can argue with that, actually, because I see a lot of that on conservative side.
	A lot of people physically shut down when you bring up specific issues and they keep going around in circles, not even answering the question.
	No side is immune to this sort of thing.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	So everybody has an emotional process.
	It's almost like a powerful thing.
	Like, let me ask you a question.
	Who's pushing political correctness more?
	Conservatives or liberals?
	Liberals.
	Liberals.
	No, hold on.
	This is a question directed at her.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so specifically political correctness, liberals.
	I am not 100% liberal.
	I do want to say that I am not.
	I do not consider myself liberal.
	I'm more not quite in between, but I understand both sides.
	Let me ask you another question.
	When it comes to friendship, who do you think is more willing to be friends with somebody who has a different political opinion than them?
	Is a conservative more likely to be willing to be friends with somebody who's liberal, or is a liberal more willing to be friends with somebody who's conservative?
	In my personal experience, liberals.
	In my personal experience.
	Well, here's my view of this, and I tend to think I'm a bit more moderate.
	When conservatives typically will look at liberals and see it's more so a difference of opinion and worldview, liberals will paint conservatives as evil, typically.
	And so there's a pretty big difference.
	And they've actually, I believe, Nick, can you maybe find this, there was a study on this.
	I do think that they found that conservatives were more willing to be friends with liberals than the reverse.
	Which, again, everyone has their own personal experience.
	I cannot speak for everybody, obviously.
	In my experience, I have a lot of conservative friends.
	I have a lot of liberal friends.
	And I've seen them interact with each other.
	And I've seen them having friendly discussions and friendly debates where everyone just agrees to disagree, but they have things in common.
	And all of the issues between both sides are the same issues.
	They're just handled from different perspectives and different viewpoints.
	Anyways, so going back to this, so when it comes to the tone policing stuff, something that's interesting is that if a woman says something disrespectful and it perhaps flusters a man and the man responds,
	like Andrew says, matches her energy, people will typically disregard the precipitating factor in the man's belligerence.
	They'll kind of cast aside when a woman is aggressive and then they'll singularly look at the man's response without any regard to how the woman might have, what's the word?
	She might have instigated it or added toxicity to the conversation.
	Right.
	And actually, I think.
	That is true.
	So speaking to your thing, I don't know if you're referencing this clip where I kicked off this OnlyFans girl who had been absolutely obnoxious the entire night.
	She came on to troll and as she was leaving, I was kicking her off.
	She said, good luck with your dead ass podcast, in which I called her a bitch, and then I made some comments about it.
	That was fair, though.
	It wasn't very exciting.
	Like Andrew and I, I call him an asshole.
	He kind of does his, it's okay.
	It's banter.
	You're right.
	And we're giving him back my own medicine.
	I give him back our medicine.
	It's fair.
	And then there's just being straight up rude for no reason.
	But one of the criticisms I received in that situation where she had been trolling the entire night, she'd been disrespectful the entire night.
	The segment got clipped on stop.
	The segment got clipped and it shows me, you know, she says a couple things to me.
	I say some things to her.
	She kind of instigated, in my view, like with what Andrew says, I'll match people's energy.
	I'll typically try to be, look, sometimes you get frustrated, lose your cool, whatever.
	Typically, though, I'm not going to be insulting towards somebody unless they've been insulting towards me first.
	I'm not perfect.
	But most of the time, I try to keep a calm head.
	In this case, though, a lot of people, despite the clip including the parts in which she was at fault, nobody seems to acknowledge that somebody can kind of, it's not a problem.
	It's almost like there's a prejudice against a masculine presentation of aggression.
	There is like a.
	Didn't need to be.
	I didn't need to stay level as long as you were.
	Right.
	For example, there's many women who are physically abusing their male partners, yet they don't.
	Or the same.
	They don't get the same.
	For example, I have had domestic issues.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to move it on.
	Okay.
	Maddie, can you read this?
	DNA says 17 women reproduce for every one man only 8,000 years ago.
	We're regressing back to that.
	Monogamy only existed for a short period of time and it came with religion.
	Explain why it's better.
	Ooh, please, someone.
	That's a good one.
	I'm excited for an answer.
	I don't.
	Blondie, you're a scammer.
	Do you ever think about the potential DMG you did to your family when you go to sleep at night?
	I do.
	Andrew, you have to be super insecure if you need to control your lady.
	Submission.
	Ha.
	Should I answer that or respond or is it just a statement?
	Law Paladins, we'll get back to you in a sec.
	So, yeah, I do.
	That's honestly my driving motivation in all of my life is to reflect on mistakes I've made and mistakes that were done to me.
	And I try to go back to the root.
	Instead of dealing with all these symptoms, I go back and figure out where it actually went wrong.
	And then I am trying the best that I can.
	Like you said, we're not perfect people.
	I make mistakes, but I'm doing the best I can to fix those issues at the root cause and pray, do my best to create a different result for my kids.
	If someone conservative can argue their views well, they rarely need to become emotional or use ad hominem.
	Liberals revert to anger and personal attacks more often.
	True, cool.
	Now, going back to what Lol Paladin says, I believe this might have been directed at you.
	It was talking about monogamy, polygamy.
	Explain why I guess polygamy is better.
	I think that's what he's getting at.
	I thought it was the opposite.
	I thought it was the other way.
	Why is the monogamy better?
	Yeah, he's making the scientific assertion, like monogamy should be the one that should have to prove that it's better.
	Not polyamory.
	It's opposite.
	We have the script flipped in a lot of ways.
	You're right.
	You're right.
	So let's see if we can't scientifically prove that it's better.
	Can you name a society which does not practice monogamy as a standard that's better than the societies which do?
	Many tribal nations don't.
	Go ahead.
	Name the society that is better that does not practice monogamy as a standard than the societies which do.
	I believe it's Switzerland.
	They're not very monogamous over there.
	Also, monogamy is the standard.
	Switzerland is part of the UN.
	The UN has outlawed polygamy.
	Okay, just because something is outlawed doesn't mean in practice people aren't living that way and very happy with it.
	Very few live that way.
	Many, many, many more people.
	But again, my personal friend.
	Standard of monogamy, the standard.
	This is the nation's standard.
	Okay.
	Can you name a society where the nation's standard is not monogamy that is doing better than the societies where the nation's standard is?
	Are you familiar with Esther Pearl?
	Esther Pearl?
	She's a very good person.
	You just named the society for me.
	I would say America is not doing well with monogamy.
	Erroneous.
	Erroneous.
	What society...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Great.
	This is perfect.
	Go ahead.
	What society can you point to that's doing better than the United States where the standard is not monogamy?
	I'd love to know.
	Did you know that the United States of America is number 25 in the world as far as maternal and infant death?
	I'm anxious.
	I'm not answering this question.
	The short answer is a lot of other countries are doing way better than we are.
	Wait, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on, hold on.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	Listen, even if I were to grant that there's more infant mortality in the United States than other developed countries, right, which still also practice monogamy as their standard, by the way, can you name a nation where monogamy is not the standard, which it most definitely is in the United States?
	You can't have a pluralistic marriage in the United States.
	It's quite illegal.
	You go to prison for a long time.
	Can you name a nation anywhere on planet Earth where the society does better, where the standard is not monogamy?
	I would tell you that the standard in the whole world, the law of monogamy, is what we all see as the standard, but it's not actually what's practiced in the day-to-day lives of the average person.
	In America, monogamy, okay, what do you think it is with all the cheating culture?
	What do you think it is with the emotional best friend?
	What do you think it is with the dating culture and the hooks?
	It's not monogamy.
	It's not specific.
	Pluralistic marriage, which is not monogamy.
	Pluralistic.
	I'm not talking about legal.
	I'm talking about monogamy.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Let me ask the question so I can make it hyper-specific so you can't evade it again.
	Can you name a nation where the standard is not monogamy?
	Monogamy being one man, one woman married in holy matrimony.
	That's the standard for the nation.
	Can you name a pluralistic nation that does better than any of the nations which have a standard for one man, one woman in marriage?
	Can you?
	What's the better?
	What is the definition of better?
	What's the better?
	What's the best metrics are better?
	So we're talking about any of the metrics you want.
	I'm not doing that well.
	I hate the break and I'm going to be able to do that.
	I'm going to explain what they are.
	I'm going to explain what they are.
	Calm down.
	We're going to look at outcomes for human beings.
	We're going to look at how well they're fed.
	We're going to look at what their happiness indexes are.
	We're going to look at basically everything across the board that you can think of.
	Housing standards.
	We're going to think about economic prosperity.
	All of those things.
	Give me one nation.
	One.
	We are fat.
	We are sick.
	We are on medications.
	We are on a plethora of medication.
	Can you answer my question?
	I think there's many, many other societies.
	I just told you, Switzerland is doing a lot better.
	Hold on.
	And the standard in Switzerland is one man, one woman for marriage.
	The practice standard in Switzerland from my personal friends who live there is not actually monogamy.
	Because I clearly can't follow the arguments.
	We'll do it this way.
	Can you steel man my position?
	Can what?
	Can you just steel man my position?
	That means can you give me my argument back to me so I know you're not.
	I'm going to agree with, I'll say America's doing great in monogamy.
	It's awesome and we're all so happy.
	Let's do it.
	You can't give me my argument back, can you?
	Your argument back, I don't have the same view or the same perspective.
	Hold on.
	I'm asking you if you could just go ahead and repeat, repeat to me the question I'm asking you.
	Can you just say that?
	Is there a society in the world?
	Document.
	Marriage is not about happiness, but about growth.
	Growth is hard.
	You see relationships through the lens of hedonism.
	Constantly seeking pleasure like a child will stunter spiritual growth.
	Amen.
	That is assuming that you are not going into each relationship to grow yourself.
	If every relationship in your life, you have the primary purpose of growing as a person, you're not seeking pleasure.
	Yeah, great, great.
	Before we get to that, can you just tell me back to me what my question to you is?
	Say it again.
	No.
	My question to you is: can you name a society anywhere on planet Earth which is pluralistic in their marriage practices, which is better than the societies which have monogamy as the standard for marriage?
	Any I'm trying to give you my answer, and you're not wanting to accept that.
	So you said Switzerland, correct?
	Okay, so hold on.
	So let me ask you a question.
	When you answered Switzerland, you stated, I have some friends who live in Switzerland and they are in polygamous, polyamorous relationships.
	I'm telling you from a social science perspective, I have many friends in Switzerland.
	I do business with them, and they're telling me the culture, what it actually is in practice that they're doing that works.
	And it's not monogamy.
	Are your friends polygamist?
	Some of them are and some of them are not.
	They're just simply reporting on that average.
	Hold on, So, are you making the argument that more than 51% of people in Switzerland, it's a polygamous society?
	Is that your position?
	I'm not talking about legal.
	I'm talking about people might be legally married to one person and they have other relationships with other people.
	Some might, but I'm asking you if a majority of people in Switzerland are moving in that way.
	To not being monogamous?
	Yes.
	Are you just not listening?
	Hello?
	I'm just trying to simply clarify because what is there to clarify?
	You guys just want on-paper statistics that do not represent what's actually going on in the actual relationship between people.
	Look, I know.
	I think we can make those extrapolations of what's going on based on how many people are in those polygamous relationships versus are not.
	But when we're asking about this, so here's what I will tell you.
	In Switzerland, it's illegal, illegal, to marry multiple people.
	So back to my question: Can you name a society which is better that practices as a matter of law that you can get married to the marriage?
	So there's the good point of clarifying that.
	As opposed to the society where it's a matter of law that you can only get married to one.
	Can you name one?
	There, in any of the colonized societies, the advanced societies, they have all run with this propaganda that monogamy is the way to go.
	And so they've made that the legal standard.
	They've made that the legal standard.
	Is that what people practice?
	So the answer is no, you can't name one, correct?
	If you need to be right, sure.
	No.
	No, if you need to be right, can you name one or not?
	I have tried to communicate with you in the way that resonates with me.
	See, men don't like that.
	They don't like combat.
	They don't like all this.
	Men don't like this.
	Stop doing that.
	Just like that.
	No, sir, you're right.
	You're right.
	America is doing the best job.
	All right, Madison, read this, please.
	Hint for blonde.
	No, no, no, no.
	Hey, Andrew, what brand do you smoke?
	Kiko, the finest fork in DCAS.
	Andrew, that's for you.
	Yeah, I smoke marble reds.
	All right.
	I need to move on with my notes here.
	So going to you, Desiree, you stated that you basically solved all of the world, all of world problems simply by flipping the script of the patriarchy and going back to a system where women do the choosing.
	You are a savant, a social scientist, OnlyFans model, and a good old American-made single mom of three trying to get your bills paid out here in a man's world.
	Okay, what do you mean flipping the script of the patriarchy?
	Okay, so the easiest way to describe it is: do you have daughters?
	Does anybody have a daughter?
	Do you have a daughter?
	Andrew has a daughter, right?
	So, when your daughter was born, like many daughters.
	Okay, that's perfect.
	Perfect.
	I have two daughters myself.
	When that baby girl is born, you would die for her on the spot.
	Like, that's your baby girl.
	You're going to protect her.
	You're going to serve her.
	You're going to love her.
	You're going to, you want this?
	Anything you want.
	Can you arrive?
	You're going to get the point.
	Okay, so the point is: a woman was designed to be treated that way every second of her life.
	Just because she grows up.
	But aren't there, hold on, they feel the same way with their sons.
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, I have a son, actually.
	Yeah, aren't there?
	I really don't understand this.
	If you, as a father, hold your baby son, you have the same feeling.
	What the hell are you doing?
	No, I understand that, but there is an understanding that feminine essence beings are very sensitive.
	We need a little bit of extra coddling.
	We need a little extra protection.
	We're physically more weak.
	So there's.
	What's in exchange for that?
	What's the what?
	What's the exchange?
	If the exchange is that you're a little bit weaker and you need a little bit more coddling and you need a little bit more society to kiss your ass, hang on, stop.
	Stop.
	What's the exchange?
	What's the exchange to men?
	What do we get?
	You get pussy.
	Oh, I see.
	The only thing that you can offer us is the thing that you, that we also can offer back to you, right?
	Which is dick, I guess.
	I have toys.
	I mean, you guys aren't doing that.
	But the thing is, your whole value structure, everything within your values, revolves to, I deserve to have my ass kissed because I have a vagina.
	I make the babies.
	You don't make the babies.
	How did we get the math wrong?
	We don't need you.
	I mean, I'm not saying it's personal, but we actually don't.
	Yes, we do.
	I'm sorry.
	Who invented the technology for you to be able to do that?
	And guess what?
	We could have invented the technology if we didn't.
	Listen, this is not to say that men don't have their role.
	It's simply to say we actually have the bodies that produce the babies.
	Then what are you going to do when there's artificial women?
	They're obviously of a higher.
	What do you do when there's artificial wombs?
	What?
	What about artificial wombs?
	We shouldn't have artificial wombs.
	That is usurping the power of a woman.
	And it's making us not as valuable.
	It's usurping the power of a woman.
	So then, what do men get then from women?
	What did men get then from women if we have artificial wombs and we no longer need your womb?
	You don't need women?
	You guys would all kill yourselves within three days of not having women here.
	The only reason you are here is to impress us, to protect us, to fuck us right, to get our adoration, to have us feel like we're worshiping you when we're sucking your dicks.
	I mean, there's an energy exchange here that works.
	It's super weird.
	There was a great episode that happened.
	I believe it was Survivor, where men and women were divided up into groups, and the men were sent to an island to survive, and the women were sent to an island to survive.
	Now, interestingly enough, the men lasted a lot longer than three days without the women.
	In fact, they were thriving.
	They were killing everything that hang on, stop.
	They were killing everything that they could possibly find.
	They were eating like kings.
	They rediscovered fire with nothing but their own minds.
	Why the women were freezing to death?
	They literally gave up within just a couple of days and begged the men to go to their campfire.
	But we wouldn't last three days without women.
	Is that right?
	I'm simply saying if you guys literally knew that every woman dropped dead and she was not there, you're talking about a simulation where they know at the end of this, they're going to go home to their girlfriend, they're going to go home to their mom, their aunt, their daughter, and the women are still there.
	I'm saying if all the women were just dropped dead, what are you guys going to do?
	That would be the same problem you would have in reverse without the influence.
	Exactly.
	But my point is, we actually do need to do that.
	All you do, I listen to everything you say, but then when I try to respond, you cut right in.
	So just hang tight.
	Let me get my point in, too.
	If the situation was reversed, if men were gone, who would maintain the infrastructure?
	Go ahead and lie to me and say women.
	No, no, no.
	Don't get me wrong.
	I am not saying that each man is just null and void.
	I'm simply saying that women need to have an extra layer of reverence and protection and respect from what it is.
	We don't get it.
	In exchange, what do men get?
	Men get our presence.
	Right, that's it.
	You have nothing.
	So what you're saying to me, here's what I'm saying.
	You're saying there's nothing?
	Here's what we're doing to go around and around the world.
	You say women deserve these extra privileges from men.
	Okay, that's fair.
	But when I ask, what are women giving it?
	They just, me.
	It's like, well, now you understand why.
	I feel like it's a given that you know what a woman offers.
	I don't know why it's impossible for you to let me finish a sentence, but now, so what you're saying is, is that the only thing you bring to the table is your vagina.
	And so all a man ever has to do is reject your vagina because it's literally the only thing of value you have.
	No, I said it's the most valuable thing we have.
	We have lots of other points of value.
	That's just the most hints why many women choose to be celibate.
	They choose to wait for their husbands because we inherently know this is our most prized possession is our body.
	But I'm just simply saying it's a lot of for a lot of us.
	It's because this is my sacred vessel.
	You're not entering this until we're at a certain point.
	You have proven yourself to me.
	I know you're going to be a good father, etc.
	A woman doesn't get to envelop her pussy around my dick until you've done XYZ and what's really amazing here.
	And a good man, that is how I feel about him, to be honest.
	I love being a good man.
	The best way for men to remove your power over them is for them to just not be interested in your vagina.
	Yeah, and that's fine.
	That's the only thing.
	What else have you brought to the table?
	$200.
	Artificial wombs are usurping the power of a woman.
	Yet she just said she has toys, and us men aren't doing so well, usurping the power of men in helping you create the child.
	That's a double standard.
	Totally.
	Totally a double standard.
	Thank you, Killer Cereal.
	Definitely double standard.
	Right, and we're all doing the best we can.
	Grid one is coming.
	Can I say something?
	One sec.
	I'm just preempting Grid One is coming in here with his own TTS.
	Thank you, Kilip Cereal.
	Appreciate it.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $200.
	Thank you, Grid One.
	I am the patriarchy, and you know nothing of my work.
	Feminism has failed you all, especially the mouthy wench.
	Throw off those chains and return to the patriarchy.
	Submit and realize her true potential.
	All right.
	Thank you, Grid One.
	Appreciate it.
	Oh, hold on.
	Now we have Nickelodeon coming up.
	Thank you, Grid One.
	I appreciate it, man.
	Very good to see you in the chat.
	I hope you're doing well.
	Hope the flying's been going.
	Nickelodeon donated $200.
	Blonde, do you actually feel overpowering love for your daughter?
	Or do you see her as a sexual competitor?
	My guess is the fake tits and earth came after she started to get more male attention than you.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	I'm trying to clarify what to actually answer.
	I mean, my daughters are six and nine.
	I don't, I'm not sure if that's appropriate.
	Gary says, Maddie, could you read it?
	Brian needs a gavel to slam.
	That or a powered wig order in the courtroom.
	Actually, dude, I just take it back.
	Take it back.
	The power back.
	That's exactly that.
	Why haven't you pulled that out?
	You need to.
	You may be the judge here, but I would like to finish this exchange if we can when you get a chance.
	All right.
	I do have the gavel here at the table.
	Let me just get one chat in and then Maddie read this and then we'll have Andrew give this take.
	Can't even simply understand that your small social circles situations don't equate to society or a country as a whole is absolutely ignorant.
	Obviously, there are outliers, just as criminals are a small outlier among society.
	Thank you for your presence.
	Yo, John Green, thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	By the way, just I've never done this during the show.
	Reminder: if any girls want to be on the show and be and be what was the term you use, degraded.
	If any girls want to be able to show, get roasted and degraded and judged and shamed.
	It's fun.
	Instagram.com/slash whatever.
	We can hook you up.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	It's fun.
	Yeah, so just to kind of tie this exchange off, which I've enjoyed, by the way.
	I never have any ill will towards any of the people I have exchanges with.
	I just enjoy the exchange itself.
	I just want to clarify that you think that the only value that women bring to the table is their vagina.
	No, again, if that, hang on, hang on.
	Let me finish the question.
	If that's not true, then what other value are you bringing to the table?
	Soul, a good cooked meal, I mean, a clean house, raising kids, figuring out social issues to try to find solutions to things.
	I mean, I'm masterminding women.
	Women are better at all those things.
	Okay, well then those men don't need to come to me because they haven't figured out with each other.
	So for men who can cook their own food, which is easy as shit, for men, right?
	A cheerleader.
	Somebody to give you a bullshit when you're having a bad day.
	I mean, come on.
	It's simple.
	Women's work is very incredibly valuable.
	And it comes out.
	Yeah, in what regard?
	Other than your vagina, what are you bringing to the table?
	I keep on asking you this.
	You're like, well, cooking and all things men can do.
	I'm telling you, there's a thing.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'm almost done.
	Cooking, cleaning, all of this.
	These are all things that men can do.
	Nurturing.
	Nurturing.
	I'm almost done.
	I'm almost done.
	If they are things that men can do for themselves, well, can you name something you're uniquely going to bring to the table a man can't do for themselves other than your vagina?
	I can have a baby for him.
	He can't have a baby for himself.
	I mean, I guess he could use an artificial womb.
	I got you.
	If you want to go that way, I just think we have a human design that works a certain way.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	So if there's an artificial womb, there's nothing then.
	You could be his number one fan.
	Lift him up while he's down.
	Amen, sis.
	I mean, if you want to go with that, that you guys don't need women, fine, have fun.
	I do have to move things along here.
	I do have to move things along unless you have to do it.
	I just think it's incredible that ultimately the only thing you think you bring to the table is a uterus.
	And the thing is, so I think that my position, I think that the Christian position is actually far better.
	You know, it's really funny.
	The Christian position of create God make people.
	I just don't want to hear the answer.
	The thing is, I trash feminists more than anybody on planet Earth.
	I mean, I'm probably one of the best at it.
	But the thing that's interesting is that I believe that women have an actual ontology and a nature and that they have value beyond just that of their vagina and giving you the baby.
	I think that they actually have.
	Hey, stop.
	Lady, stop.
	Just calm down and listen.
	If you listen, right, then you'll be able to craft way better responses.
	So, the thing is, is that there's an ontological nature of men and women.
	There's a nature to them.
	And I think that the nature of women in and of itself is valuable, not just because they have a uterus.
	I think women are valuable without a uterus.
	I think women are valuable even if they're not sleeping with that.
	That is exactly what I said.
	I called it feminine uterus.
	If you're not sleeping, can't help yourself.
	You just can't help it.
	Even if they're not sleeping with turkey, because you're saying the same thing, but yet if you say it, you're right.
	And if I say it in my way, I'm wrong.
	It's the exact same thing.
	But you got to stop interrupting.
	You can agree, disagree, but you got to let him finish.
	He lets you say.
	And I promise I'll let you finish.
	I promise I'll let you finish.
	But I'm saying if there's an underlying ontology to both, and I think women without a uterus can still be highly valuable to society.
	And I think that women who don't sleep with men can be highly valuable to society.
	I don't see these as the ontology basis for the only reason that women are valuable.
	And yet, when I ask you what makes you valuable to a man, the only two things that you can give me are those.
	And so, absent those things, you're saying that other women can't really be.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I said the feminine essence.
	Whatever, however, you worded it.
	I'm saying femininity in and of itself, which women embody, whether we're reproducting, reproducing, or we're not.
	When I say pussy, I'm saying the generated energetic state from the part of us.
	The feminine essence, our feminine energy.
	I don't think that femininity is tied up with promiscuity.
	I never said it was.
	That's insanity.
	I never said it was.
	Then why are you only referencing your vagina as being feminine?
	I'm simply saying that is the physical embodiment that represents the highest level, the highest expression of my.
	Okay, but that's how I became a mother through my vagina.
	And I became impregnated by a penis getting inserted into my vagina.
	And then sperm coming out, and then it mixing with my egg.
	Okay, well, that's a good idea.
	You can be a mother.
	What about those?
	You can be a motherfucker.
	Even if you don't bear the child, you can still be a mother.
	You have your feminine essence, right?
	You're nurturing, you're loving your children.
	Couldn't you still be a mother?
	Yeah.
	Well, then, I'm sorry if I misspoke.
	I'm sorry if I misspoke.
	I was referring to the feminine essence, the feminine nature.
	What is that?
	Just leave it.
	That is our tendency to nurture, our tendency to be able to make sacrifices, our tendency to submit to a man when it's things that you won't do.
	I submit when the man.
	No, you've been saying the opposite.
	Listen, I submit to the man.
	I submit to the men who earn that position in my life.
	Oh, submission is earned.
	It is.
	I submit to God first, and then as men step up.
	Oh, wait, Stop, You submit to God, correct?
	Correct.
	Don't you do porn?
	Yeah, you have OnlyFans.
	You have an OnlyFans.
	I do sex education.
	So, wait, how do you.
	No, no, no, but you have an OnlyFans, right?
	Where you post.
	You know, God created sex, right?
	It says who?
	God.
	But what's a marriage?
	You're talking about the inner side.
	Stop, stop, guys, guys, guys.
	Please let me have a fucking back and forth here.
	Okay, so do you think God wants you to do OnlyFans?
	Yeah, it's a ministry.
	I'm actually teaching men how to please women.
	I have squirting tutorials, I have eating pussy tutorials, I have blowjob tutorials.
	I'm teaching your daughters doing that on a second.
	Yeah, you would not.
	I will teach myself.
	You would not want daughters to do that.
	I didn't expect to find a good man.
	Do you know how hard it is to not have proper sex education and then just figure it out?
	It's okay to squirt on.
	That's disgusting.
	That is shameful.
	I'm sorry that you have a name attached to your sexuality.
	Men love a woman who squirts.
	I feel baptized by that.
	It's like a life-changing experience.
	I just want to make sure I got this clear.
	Jesus Christ came and died for your sins so that you could teach women how to suck dick better.
	That's what I'm doing.
	Do you know what sin means?
	Can you answer my question?
	Jesus Christ didn't need to die for my sins.
	I'm not a sinner.
	Oh my gosh.
	You are demonic.
	So, wait a second.
	So, what did Jesus Christ die for?
	You need to be healed.
	Sin means you turn away from yourself.
	You're turning away from the best thing for you.
	That's what sin means.
	You missed the mark.
	Well, that's fine.
	Agree to disagree.
	Agree to disagree.
	Sin is turning away from the things which are the best for you.
	No.
	No, sin is turning away from the things that are not your truth.
	Would you actually show your parents something like that?
	Do my parents.
	Do you know what I do?
	There's no way.
	I'm very public.
	You can go into my Instagram.
	I'm very public.
	I wrote books.
	I dedicated my books to my parents.
	So then tell me my whole life in there.
	I don't have secrets.
	I am very transparent.
	If your truth was to be a serial killer, that was your truth.
	No, because if you think about it, let me finish the question.
	If that was your truth, to be a serial killer, your truth, why is it that turning away from that nature wouldn't be sinful by that logic?
	Can you explain that to me?
	That's facts.
	If you have to go to the most extreme example of society, that is literally a trauma response.
	You're not getting what I'm saying.
	All you're doing is obfuscating.
	Answer the question.
	Say the question again.
	Okay, yeah.
	So listen to it this time.
	So if it was your truth to be a serial killer, you would, by your logic, turning away from that truth would be sinful.
	Do you understand that?
	No, I believe the serial killer example, if we must go with that, that is now hurting other people.
	My sex life.
	My sex life is not hurting anybody.
	So now we're in a hard life.
	I thought it was about your truth a second ago.
	It's not about your truth.
	Yeah.
	I'm getting confused at what I didn't know that this was going to be a religious podcast.
	My sexuality.
	You said you were submitted to God.
	I am.
	My God is not the God of the Bible.
	It's not the God that you say.
	So you're using biblical terms.
	It doesn't matter what terms I use.
	We can say something else.
	We can call it source energy.
	Does that work better for you?
	Do you literally do like mental gymnastics?
	You don't even know what's your reality because you have no foundation.
	You're just picking and choosing things from everywhere and trying to make it.
	I have books.
	You can read my book.
	It would be my foundation.
	No, because you're not even knowing.
	I'm really going to have the children.
	And that is forever moving.
	There is no solid foundation.
	You stand for nothing.
	Because I'm an ever-evolving being.
	Our DNA is a spiral that's evolving.
	We're always going to be all grow.
	You can mature, but you're going the opposite way.
	I'm not going to.
	I was the celibate good Christian girl.
	I did all this shit that you're doing.
	Now I did that when I was 18 to 33.
	I spent 15 years doing this whole girl.
	But you can do things, but were you truly born again?
	Did you have the Holy Spirit?
	You're so fucking devoted.
	If you would read my book, let me finish.
	If you were truly born again, you wouldn't be looking at me with those eyes, first of all.
	You would have the Holy Spirit in you, and you would be much more.
	I'm a demon exercise.
	You would be transitioning and moving towards a direction where it's really important.
	I did it the different ways I do the truth.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Romans 1.
	Therefore, God also gave them up to vile impurity in the lusts of their hearts to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie.
	Yeah.
	Cool.
	Literally.
	Thank you.
	Yo, Christ is Lord.
	Thank you.
	Okay, I'm going to ask you.
	We have so many notes that we have to go through, but I'm going to continue going through your notes.
	There's probably going to be a lot more back and forth further from that.
	I did do a little bit of a dive into your Instagram a little bit.
	I didn't catch your stories until yesterday.
	Minus underscore to underscore $100 to listen to $200.
	Yes.
	Red one, you rock.
	Chat loves you.
	Can you do me a favor and punch that blonde next to you?
	Maybe she will serve her up.
	Is Wayne Brady gonna have the choker bitch?
	Get it.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Oh, my God.
	It's okay.
	We'll make that after.
	I can see this fridge in my show.
	I'm a kinky bitch.
	I knew you got some kink in you.
	You got some kink in you.
	Oh, definitely.
	Kinky.
	Let me see if you get it.
	All right.
	So, guys, guys, let me.
	Okay, focus.
	Order.
	Order in the court.
	Order in the court.
	I gotta gavel.
	I told you I liked Brian.
	Gotta gavel boys.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So I was looking at your Instagram.
	I saw stories.
	You post like 30 stories a day.
	I only tuned in yesterday.
	The amount of content you push out is a lot.
	So you said there was you went on a $12,000 Utah trip.
	Was that recently?
	It was a $13,000 Utah trip.
	Yeah, it was like in April.
	It was April 20th.
	You said that.
	Are you divorced or currently going through a divorce?
	Do you want the whole long story or like just an answer to the question?
	Divorced from the legal marriage.
	The first.
	And then I left the non-legal marriage arrangement.
	And so when was this Utah trip?
	It was in April.
	And you were there to meet Donald Trump Jr. or something?
	I was there to go to what I thought was a networking event with a lot of the leaders in the country.
	There was a country.
	There was a ludicrous concert and stuff.
	And there's Donald Trump.
	It's okay.
	We don't need to get into the details.
	But you couldn't go because there was a car accident.
	But how would you know if you couldn't go that it was a ludicrous accident?
	Okay, because it was at one of these rich people's houses that's like on this big hill.
	And driving up to the concert, I thought that it was this way with a car, it was a little car accident.
	Okay, point being is.
	But you never, you didn't even go to the event.
	I got driven up by the homeowners where the car crashed down here.
	They knew the party and they were like, let's get you up to the party.
	Okay, so you did go to the party.
	But I didn't get to stay because the police called me back down because of the car situation.
	Okay.
	So then I just heard that it was ludicrous and I saw it on the social media afterwards.
	I didn't even, I saw the helicopter come in and fly out.
	I didn't know who it was.
	Okay.
	So $13,000 Utah trip.
	Now, in the Instagram story that I saw, you spent your husband, you used your husband's money.
	No, It was my business card.
	He came and beat me because he somehow, not even my husband, we never were legally married.
	I had left him six months before that.
	It was not his.
	He was opening up credit cards under my company and racking it up partying.
	Is it, was it your like?
	It's my S-Corp.
	It wasn't we?
	No, it's my S-Corp.
	When I have an S-corp, because we were together, I put him on my as the vice president of my S-Corp.
	It's just a technicality because we were together.
	So it was completely my business that we set up, that I set up for my books when I wrote my books.
	Understood.
	So you mentioned the biggest issue, actually, well, we'll start there.
	You said the biggest issue is that we live in the patriarchy with the toxic masculinity.
	Just so I know that we're talking about the same thing, could you define for me patriarchy and define for me toxic masculinity?
	I want to make sure we're talking about the same thing.
	Go ahead.
	I would say the patriarchy and the toxic part is the valuing of the master.
	Well, hold on, just one at a time.
	So, patriarchy, you use patriarchy alone.
	Okay.
	And then you use toxic masculinity alone.
	Okay.
	I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same thing.
	Can you define both?
	So, the patriarchy to me is the valuing of men over women.
	I have no problem with male leadership.
	I love it.
	I totally agree with it.
	I even agree in the churches, it's better, and in general, it's better for the men to be the ones who are out there speaking to men because they do not.
	So, we have different definitions of patriarchy.
	Okay, well, I'm just saying that's my you asked what my idea of it.
	And then, what about toxic masculinity?
	And then, the toxic masculinity are these guys who basically market themselves one way, right?
	They tell you, I'm fine with this traditional stuff.
	Let's have sex.
	That was never who he was.
	That's the toxic part.
	There's not, they're not marketing themselves correctly.
	So, a woman can't even make an informed decision because she's being lied to from the gate on the first date because he's in marketing mode.
	He's trying to do whatever he's trying to do.
	Masculinity.
	I think it's toxic for anybody.
	When you say marketing, what do you could you give some examples of?
	Yeah, I mean, you're trying to sell yourself to a person.
	Do you wear makeup?
	I wear a little makeup, but I often don't.
	Do you have breast implants?
	But everybody knows I have breast implants.
	Okay, we don't, you don't need to.
	No, but I'm saying, I'm not saying that you can't put on your best face, but obviously, it's not.
	So, you're saying men are lying.
	Is that the complaint?
	And I'm just saying that's the toxic part.
	You asked me what was toxic masculinity.
	I would say it's toxic femininity too, is us lying and pretending like catfishing, you know, catfishing.
	No, I'm talking about catfishing.
	But what you do.
	The type of thing mostly women do.
	What?
	The whole thing mostly women do.
	And I would even say, Right, but I would even say that that's a woman being actually masculine.
	That's her competitive nature.
	Femininity is not actually competitive.
	It's not like that.
	It's very flowy.
	It's very like, we're friends.
	It's the masculinity that women are taking on and being competitive.
	So, okay, what you do in dating, you don't think that is no, because I'm 100% transparent.
	I'm 100% real.
	I'm not lying about anything.
	I might meet him after the gym.
	I'm wearing no makeup.
	This is done up because they said get done up.
	Which is not how I normally am.
	And I had a little boot job in my breastfed for nine years.
	I had nothing left.
	I got a little something done.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I get it.
	But it's super weird that you say that there's no competitive nature, which you have.
	Haven't you written books?
	Don't you compete with other people?
	No, I'm not.
	Don't you, hang on, let me finish, please.
	Don't you have businesses and aren't you competing in business?
	Aren't you taking on these very masculine roles, which you now are claiming that you let me finish?
	Okay.
	So that you understand the reason I ask you to let me finish, I don't mind the spirited back and forth exchange.
	When you're talking in your mic while I'm talking, because of the nature of the call, I can't hear you.
	That's why I asked you actually to stop because I can't actually hear what you're saying.
	So isn't it so that you're taking on these same masculine roles, which you right now are raging about?
	Yeah, I really was.
	And that is something that I only recently discovered was a flaw in myself.
	And that's why I wasn't really getting anywhere in the business world because I was running with this masculine energy, this competition, the way that men do it.
	And that is actually, I felt convicted.
	And that's why I switched back into making my money the way that I do.
	I am a consultant.
	As a business.
	I switched over to a feminine energy model, which is not.
	Which was what?
	Okay, so for example.
	When you're going to sell your body for money.
	No, that's not true.
	For example, let's say I was a life coach.
	Okay, let's say I was a life coach.
	Let's say you were a life coach.
	Typically in the man's world in business, there's a set price, right?
	So coaching with me used to cost $2,000 for three months.
	I take you through this thing and it was just cut and dry.
	Didn't matter who you were, as long as you were willing to pay the price, you could enter my coaching container and I would life coach you.
	What I found is that was not good for me as a woman because I had all these guys who weren't serious about life coaching and working through issues.
	They just wanted my energy.
	They wanted to hop on a Zoom call with me and take my time as if they were going to be with me.
	But working in the foot fetish place, I have guys come in all the time, and they want to talk about, they go to therapy with their wife, and they go to therapy alone, but then they have the same therapist as their wife.
	So they sit with me because I have no skin in the game and I have nothing to do with their lives.
	And they sit there and they talk to me and they're almost crying and they're like, I don't know who to talk to.
	Like I have an emotional experience.
	And that is actually my ministry for the most part in my OnlyFans chat.
	Stop saying ministry.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	OnlyFans ministry.
	No, I'm telling you, men are not as good at accessing their emotions.
	Men access their emotions and feel safe in a sexual context when you do it right.
	It wasn't a sexuality.
	No, no, no, but I'm just saying that they're comfortable with you because they understand you're not judging them.
	You're in a taboo situation.
	So they open up.
	Men open up.
	Hang on.
	Men are large, much larger than women and stronger than women on average.
	You agree that that's true, right?
	Yes, true.
	Just on average.
	Not every, obviously with outliers of women who are much stronger than men, this type of thing.
	But on average, they are.
	So they actually have to control their emotions better.
	They can't be overly emotional.
	They have to control their emotions.
	Because if they become, you have to let me finish.
	Hang on.
	Because if they succumb to their emotions, they can do a lot of damage.
	Not just to the weaker sex, but to the children they're supposed to protect.
	And also to other men, right?
	Yes.
	To other men, they can do a lot of damage.
	Women don't have this same burden.
	So when you say they're not as emotional, I think that they're perhaps as emotional, but hang on.
	I think that they control that emotion far better than women do.
	And what I've seen from you even is that you seem to have a hard time controlling your emotions.
	I'm feisty, yes.
	And to your point.
	Not feisty.
	Trouble controlling it.
	It's not feistiness.
	I get it.
	We can call it whatever we want.
	You can fix her, Andrew.
	Yeah, you can fix it.
	But Andrew, to your point.
	No, no, I can't fix you.
	But to your point, Andrew, what a lot of men are accidentally doing is instead of controlling their emotion and then having somebody to talk it through, going to the gym, they're repressing it.
	No, that's not repression.
	So what you're talking about is actually a feminist viewpoint, right?
	It's not repression for men, nor is it toxic masculinity for men to control emotion.
	From a woman's standpoint, when they can't control their emotions, everything is going to look like repression.
	But when you see men explode, that's not a good look for men.
	When you see men, when women explode, nobody gives a shit.
	They kind of laugh at them, right?
	Because they can't do very much damage.
	We just kind of scoff at them.
	We're like, what are you going to do about it, right?
	Men, on the other hand, must control emotion.
	They must.
	But men have become scared.
	Hang on.
	They must move towards stoicism.
	And the reason they must move towards some form of stoicism is because they're fucking dangerous.
	They're dangerous to everyone around them if they cannot control their emotions.
	Thing is, is that we've given a pass to women and tried to give this kind of example that women don't have to control their emotions, that it's good to free them, but it's not.
	Maybe women should also control their fucking emotions a little bit and not make everything about them, everything about me, everything internalized to me, me, me, But rather to look at things a little bit more logically.
	And so, as we've gone through even your worldview logically, you realize there's a ton of holes here, right?
	There's a ton of holes in the logic that you have.
	You recognize this, right?
	Well, I think, to be honest with you, if, for example, we got to, for whatever reason, spend a week together.
	Let's say we got to spend a week together.
	Let's say that $600.
	Let's say you.
	This panel is an exhibition of the absence of real men.
	If a real man showed up for these women, they would snap out of the delusion and confusion and fall into their feminine feminism equals loneliness.
	That's true.
	I totally agree.
	I totally agree.
	I can't totally agree.
	That goes to the bottom.
	It doesn't.
	What I'm telling you is there are actually so few healthy, mature, good men on the bottom.
	No, there's not.
	That's not.
	And I am not blaming anybody.
	It sucks.
	You are a good man.
	I believe you're a good man.
	And I believe you're a good man.
	You're in a catch-22 logically.
	Because if the thing is, is that you want that type of man, what you would maybe broadly consider a high-value man from your worldview, the only thing that you can produce for him is your pussy by your own admission.
	And so if every other woman you're competing with has the same thing to offer him, why the fuck would he choose you?
	Can you explain that?
	Because my pussy is a completely different experience.
	It has my soul experience.
	Oh, it's the best pussy.
	That's out of all the millions and billions of pussies.
	I'm not saying it's the best.
	I'm simply saying to particular men, I am their exact taste.
	Choose the mouth.
	And it works.
	It's crazy.
	So I think the whole point is that there's everybody for everybody.
	There's somebody for everybody.
	There's a lid for every pot.
	There's somebody for everybody with different tastes, different logics, different solutions or problems on how to deal with them, different viewpoints.
	And it's all about trying to find your match and the person that you're the most compatible with and the person that you actually trust and are willing to work with long term.
	And that's fine, but she knows it.
	By the logic of feminism that you're talking about, it's like it's massive deception.
	Like you're saying, feminism is saying that women are so empowered and we got to get our power back and this and this and that.
	But it's just a branch of the patriarchy.
	It's toxic.
	It's just toxic masculinity repackaged.
	That's all I want.
	I don't know.
	I'm not going to be able to do this to you.
	Apparently, is any man who disagrees with you?
	Any man who you think packages himself in a way that you don't like, you consider that toxic masculinity by your own admission.
	And I know fairly making that judgment.
	I just know I have my particular taste.
	Okay, so when I went to college, I literally took a class where I had to sit down and watch documentaries on toxic masculinity.
	Like it was actually taught to us.
	That is the epitome of brainwashing.
	Because before that, I didn't feel like men were toxic.
	I didn't feel like I was going to get society.
	But in reality, that.
	Brian, Andrew, I am begging you, with tears in my eyes, please stop the old, irrelevant blonde hag prattle and let the rest of the panel that have dated in this decade speak.
	Thank you in advance.
	Well, hang on, but they're engaging very well.
	All of them are engaging very well.
	This has been a really respectful panel.
	And the truth is, grid one, you would be bitching if it was the other direction and there wasn't these kinds of exchanges.
	And you know it, you know you're my friend, but everybody's engaging in good faith.
	So, grid one, while you're right and the patriarchy prevails, they are engaging in good faith.
	Did the one from Optimize ATX come through?
	This one, I'll pull it up.
	Did this come as ATX donated $200?
	This panel is an exhibition of the absence of real men.
	That already came through?
	Okay, I just wanted to double check.
	I loved that comment, by the way.
	I'm going to move things a little on and listen our notes with you.
	So you've made a bunch of these Instagram videos.
	In your story yesterday, you talk of extorting men.
	Do you care to elaborate on that?
	Yes.
	So basically all the tactics that are used in sales and marketing these days, the way that that was even developed is because that was originally the feminine gifting.
	That was how we were designed to make sure we got our needs met from men.
	We would do these if we had to.
	If it came down to survival of us and our children, we learned how to be a little manipulative, how to extort somebody to get a loaf of bread to feed our babies or things like that.
	That's your simple nature, being just that like, I know.
	I would just, I wouldn't call it sinful.
	I would call it survival.
	I mean, we are weaker.
	We're weaker.
	We have the babies.
	We get abandoned sometimes or the man dies and we're on our own and we're just left to our own devices.
	We've had to become, what does the Bible say?
	It's as shrewd as what is.
	You see how far the termites have spread.
	I'm basically thinking of the concept of innocent as dubs, but shrewd as a fake, but innocent as a dub.
	Yes, and that's honestly.
	What I can understand is that not everybody's had my experience.
	Aside from the justifications for the extortion, can you tell us precisely how you extort men?
	That was just one example.
	Okay, so I had this boyfriend for six months, wealthy business guy.
	I didn't, I don't do these things where I have guys take me on dates and all this.
	If it's a man I vibe with and I enjoy his company, I just go to his house or he comes to my house.
	No, that's not what you were saying in the beginning at all.
	You got your burrito.
	I got organized.
	You guys took some lines I said and you took it way out of context.
	You said that you consider yourself a prostitute.
	How could they possibly misconstrue that?
	I said the energy exchange of tips for the death of a prostitute.
	Is that a prostitute?
	How did they get that wrong?
	Oh, man.
	Because the word prostitute connotes a woman on the corner who is so desperate, she will fuck anybody for money.
	You're literally saying that you're not going to be able to do that.
	I don't know if I can.
	You were.
	You said you were that thing.
	You said I am a prostitute.
	Your exact words were.
	I understand.
	Just like a prostitute as far as energy goes.
	Because I love to bring up these things and help people to understand how constrictive they're being with their particular language.
	Yeah, if only they could be prostitutes like you describe yourself.
	What's the difference?
	Let's get back to you.
	Okay, let me put it to you this way.
	This wealthy businessman that I extorted, okay, I could have been requiring him to date me to be taking me to nice dinners, to take me on trips.
	I could have required that.
	I could have said, this is the stuff I like to do, blah, blah.
	I'm not about that.
	So instead, I would go to his house.
	Can I finish?
	I would go to his house.
	We would have like free dates.
	He got to sleep with me.
	He got to enjoy my company for six months.
	I needed to move out.
	He co-signed for my apartment and in so doing was like, I got you.
	I got you.
	You need something and you're just in exchange for China.
	You're sleeping with him, right?
	It was more of a friendship thing because we had.
	Were you sleeping with him?
	Not anymore.
	Well, yeah.
	But you were?
	I was up until my life transition.
	I moved out.
	He co-signed for me and we sent him away.
	There was monetary exchange.
	That's called what?
	What is that called?
	I got my own apartment.
	I did it myself with my own money.
	He simply co-signed because there's these, you know, like friendships.
	Okay, can I just ask you to ask the whole panel, real quick, real quick, hang on.
	Raise your hand if sleeping with a man so that he pays your bills, you consider that to be prostitution.
	Please raise your hand.
	I thought it wasn't, sis.
	Well, then we're done.
	That's the end of it.
	I am simply saying.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	I am simply saying.
	Here's 7%.
	Even there's tons of wives out here prostituting themselves out to their husbands.
	No, they don't love them.
	They don't love them.
	They're not even probably sleeping with them, yet the bills are getting paid and they stay with the man.
	I have tons of friends.
	I'm saying, hang on, hang on.
	Listen to the way you have to qualify this in order to make yourself look better.
	I don't give a shit.
	Yes, I'm at the corner.
	Relationships where a woman stays because she has no choice.
	She's prostituting herself to her husband.
	Now, let me ask you the counter to this.
	If a woman is with her man and she loves him and he's taking care of all of her bills and she, in exchange, is staying at home taking care of his children.
	When he gets home, he has a hot meal, kiss on the cheek, and she just adores him.
	Is she a hooker?
	No, no, that's a different energy exchange.
	That's not a tit for tat.
	That's a love.
	You are a what?
	I'm a what?
	You are a what?
	Right.
	By that logic.
	Okay, so I'll explain it this way: right now in my life, whether we call it I'm in a dating phase, a non-monogamous phase, or a prostitution phase, until I meet the man who there is that love where it's not tit for tat.
	It's just I meet your needs because I love you, and you meet my needs because you love me.
	That's it.
	So let me ask you a question: Do you think that a woman who is not a prostitute, who's high virtue, has more of a chance of meeting a man who would fulfill all of those needs that she wanted versus a woman who is a prostitute?
	Not necessarily.
	Come on, you're not even lying right now.
	You're freaking lying.
	I'm just simply telling you my definition of prostitution.
	It doesn't matter what you're doing.
	It's different than yours.
	It doesn't matter what you're doing.
	It's apples and oranges, then we can't have the conversation.
	I think it is likely.
	Y'all have a different definition of prostitution.
	They're here to tell us what men like and what men like.
	Because of the law of logic.
	I literally speak to men all day, every day.
	I know exactly what I'm saying.
	What I was going to say was: they're literally coming from a male's perspective, telling us what men look for, what they like, what they don't like.
	And then you're saying, well, but I do this, and it's fine.
	If they say they don't like that, you're not going to find a good man.
	I'm sorry.
	These are not my type of guys.
	They're not the only men who are.
	Wait, wait, wait, hang on.
	Do you just say you wanted to take it as a bad person?
	Well, I do.
	I'll put it to you this way.
	Obviously, we already established.
	Wait a second.
	You said that.
	Brian was your type of guy earlier.
	I know.
	I would enjoy getting to know Brian.
	We might have some sort of a dynamic going.
	Obviously, he's not going to pick me for his.
	Let me ask you a question.
	How much is that fucking disgusting?
	Hang on.
	How much would it cost him to get to know you?
	Oh, to be honest, I would hang out with him after because I have appreciated his communication skills, his ability to work through conflicts.
	I have appreciated it.
	I have enjoyed the energy.
	How much would it cost him to hang out with you?
	It would be free because we already went through the cost exchange.
	Would I?
	Yeah, Brian, would you?
	No, I did you charge?
	Of course not.
	Of course he wouldn't.
	No!
	I can even speak for Brian on this.
	No, God, please, no!
	No!
	It's not always a money value.
	Sometimes it's just the risk.
	No way.
	There's not enough gold in the world.
	There's not enough tea in China.
	There's not enough countries you could give.
	There's not enough coconuts on the island.
	There is no possible way Brian would ever think twice.
	Just saying.
	Just saying.
	Yeah.
	Well, Brian.
	Tell me I'm wrong, Brian.
	Go ahead.
	No amount of money would make it to where you were all if you open to that.
	Open to what?
	Her.
	Open to what?
	Her legs.
	I mean, that's all she can offer.
	I want to be polite, but I mean, be honest.
	Yeah, that.
	I want to go home.
	Like, so my thing is, is that a lot of guys will make exceptions.
	They'll be like, well, I wouldn't marry her, but I wouldn't sleep with her.
	The thing for me, though, is I'm not interested in a one-night stand, so I don't, and I'm not saying this to mean me.
	I don't know why Andrew's putting me on the spot here.
	You're putting me on the spot.
	I wouldn't even want to sleep with you once.
	I'm not the one-night stand type either.
	Unless your rent's getting paid.
	But yeah, you started this whole conversation saying everything was transactional.
	It's okay, a lot of it's going to fuck me.
	Like, but now you don't understand.
	The only guys who are paying any sort of rent, I mean, many of you have had whole relationships with me.
	I know, but the point is that you started off this whole conversation saying that you only give time to men if they're giving you something.
	Okay, but it's not always money.
	It's not always money.
	It could, like, for example.
	But it's something why.
	For example, I would go, for example, just to get to know you better, because I appreciated your humility and correcting your mistakes and your conversation skills.
	I'm not saying we'd sleep together.
	I'm not saying any, there would be ever any money or I would expect him to pay for my meal.
	I'm simply saying, human to human, he is a person I wouldn't mind getting to know a little better.
	That's so would you give up your OnlyFans for a good man?
	Of course I would.
	Of course I would.
	If he really wasn't comfortable doing it, but what's the difference between the best friend?
	What do you mean, the best friend?
	The best friend.
	Sorry, but like, so you would say no to your OnlyFans if for your man, but then why were you so against the saying no to your?
	Because we're talking about a job in a way that I make money versus a relationship.
	That's different values.
	Oh, what the hell is that?
	It's you know, that's totally difficult.
	That's a little versus money.
	I mean, you extort people, so you can't say you value people.
	Everybody extorts people.
	No, it's not true.
	It is true.
	We have some Instagram.
	I don't know if these are the ones I'm looking at.
	We'll do it later.
	Well, actually, really quick, fuck it.
	Why not?
	Guys, if you're watching, if you're watching on YouTube, you're watching on Twitch, drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	Nick, if you put, we got a thousand people to hit a lot, hit the like button.
	We got almost 9,000 people on YouTube.
	Hit the like button, please, Nick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drops a prime sub if you have one.
	Got almost 2K viewers on Twitch.
	Guys, if you got a Twitch account, drop us a little follow in the chat.
	Guys, it's been 10 minutes since we've had a Prime sub.
	It's probably bugged.
	So maybe one of you guys could just do a little test and make sure, like, you know, I think the woke overlords over at Twitch, they probably might have tried to disable the Prime.
	Oh, there it is.
	Yo, Lucer, thank you for the Prime.
	Bleeding Honey, thank for the Prime.
	Skelty thing for the Tier 1.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	Wes Lance 70.
	Thank you for the Prime, dude.
	You guys are legends.
	Thank you for the follow.
	Thank you for the follow this, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	And then whoever just came in there, you can hide that in there.
	You got to send those over.
	It's almost a combined, almost a combined 15K.
	Oh, we would surely.
	Including Andrew, yeah.
	I think we sure would appreciate it if you would sub over on Twitch, uh, whatever's trying to grow that.
	Um, so if you guys can get over from the crucible audience, give that sub, give that sub over.
	It's been a great panel, good panel, it's been very spirited.
	Uh, I, of course, I blame the girl in red, it's all her fault.
	She started all of this.
	Hey, he's kidding.
	Uh, thank you for the 10 gifted Durin.
	Uh, and then, Nick, we're gonna pull up some of her Instagram posts.
	I don't have the specific story, it's uh, not loading on my end.
	There are so many Instagram stories, but uh, we'll react to a couple of your Instagram stories.
	Just pull up the first one, I guess.
	So, wait, hold on.
	Uh, make it one bigger, please, Nick.
	Okay, here we go.
	All right, so before you play it, can you read the description?
	Yeah, so I said, My favorite thing is to be compensated and taken care of for the value my sexy energy brings a person.
	That way, I can take good care of myself and my kids and still stay a very feminine, authentic woman.
	I am really learning the art of receiving and going with the flow for the sake of my own good.
	I've spent years in the feminist trap of trying to prove my worthiness beyond my beauty.
	And at the end of the day, people keep wanting to pay me for pictures and videos of my sexy ass, way more than they want to pay me for any of my graduate-level content.
	And this year, I am surrendering to that, taking the path of least resistance.
	Well, um, resting more, turning into myself, healing my nervous system.
	It's okay.
	And did you refresh it, Nick, before you just do a refresh?
	Uh, audio these days, money.
	Um, I have a little uh cash slot, a little hooker in me.
	I don't know how you want to say that, but it's just a primal, obviously, drive to provide for myself and my kids.
	Um, I just love it when men are generous with me and pay me.
	Um, and that doesn't mean that it has to be like a man I'm dating is like handing me all this money, it could just mean guys compensating me appropriately.
	Honestly, uh, so that's really sad.
	And one thing I noticed about that clip: uh, the whole, there's the cash slut thing, you're also wearing a cross when you say that.
	I just thought that was interesting.
	Yeah, I do these little things on purpose because I'm trying to blend multiple different concepts.
	Because to me, a lot of the problems in society is this really black and white thinking.
	And I'm trying to blend.
	I'm trying to blend the idea that, listen, girls, I'm almost 40.
	I already got married, had kids, the whole thing.
	I'm in a different phase of life now.
	Wait, so you're trying to blend Christianity and being a cash?
	No, I'm just saying concepts, symbols.
	I asked you about the cross that you're wearing, and in the video, you say you're what precisely something about being a cash slut, and you're so you're trying to blend.
	She said she had a Brian, she did say, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna make sure that this is in context for you, she has, quote, a little bit of hooker in her.
	Yeah, I do.
	So, you're trying to blend Christianity with being a little bit of a hooker.
	I'm not blending Christianity.
	I'm not saying I'm white.
	You said the word blending.
	You said the word blending.
	Blending concepts, symbols, and Christmas concepts.
	Right, so you're blending.
	So you're that because you responded to that because I asked you about the cross you're wearing, which is a Christian symbol.
	Yeah, so I'm a provocateur.
	I love it.
	I love people.
	You mean blasphemy?
	It's kind of blasphemy.
	Let me ask you just a bit of a message.
	And then, if you don't mind the gal in the back in the center, surprisingly, for some odd reason, even though she's a Pentecostal, she's been kind of base this evening.
	So, I got to get her response to this too, but I have to ask you this question: Are you familiar with the laws of logic?
	Honest answer: are you familiar with the laws of logic?
	Are you asking me or her, or both?
	No, no, to the to the uh to the blonde has a little bit of hooker in her.
	My name's Desiree, the hooker cash logo.
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
	Look, I'm bad with names, it's actually not an insult towards you, I'm just bad with names.
	So, Desiree, are you familiar with the laws of logic?
	I'm not sure that I would understand that you're not.
	Fair enough, fair enough, no problem.
	One law is the law of excluded middle, and so what this is saying is that a proposition is essentially either true or it's untrue, it cannot be somewhere in the middle.
	So, when you say black and white, I'm not interested in black and white.
	From a logician standpoint, they are interested in actually what you would consider black and white, which is either a proposition is true or it's not true.
	So, I need to ask you specifically: is being a prostitute good or is being a prostitute bad?
	Not so the prop, the proposition is: is being a prostitute good or is it being bad and using that second law, the law of excluded middle, where we can't get into the gray area, is it good or is it bad for me personally?
	Every situation I get into, whether it's prostitution, if we want to call it that, or whatever, I only do it because it feels good to me.
	So, to me, it's good.
	Now, that doesn't mean only to me and the way that I do it because that's it.
	But we're only talking about you, yes, because it's different for everybody.
	It might not feel good to you.
	And so, that wouldn't be.
	I'm very sorry to interrupt.
	Did you just say that prostitution feels good to you?
	In the way that I do it.
	Yes, it does.
	Otherwise, I wouldn't do it if it didn't feel good to me.
	What?
	So, then it's not a little bit of hooker.
	Prostitution, in your worldview, good.
	I wouldn't say in my worldview as if it's good for everybody.
	I'm simply saying it's good for you.
	For me, yeah, it works for me.
	So, then you're not a little bit of hooker.
	You're a lot of hooker.
	A lot of it a hooker.
	A lot of it a hooker.
	Oh, I just wanted to make sure we got some clarification.
	Now, going around the table, I just want to ask the same question.
	And if you can just raise your hand, is prostitution good?
	If it's good, raise your hand.
	Oh.
	Sex work.
	Sex work might be a better way to say it.
	Sex work.
	Are the people who raise their hands?
	Hang on.
	Just relax.
	The people who raise their hands, are you prostitutes?
	No, if it's a consensual thing between two adults, like in Amsterdam, and you want to do that, and you're not hurting anyone else, you're not doing it with underage children or anything like that.
	And you guys.
	Yeah, no, I understand.
	I think that's perfectly okay.
	I totally understand your position.
	That's not what I do.
	That's not what I think is right.
	So why'd you raise your hand?
	And then to the other gal, the other gal who said yes, are you a prostitute?
	I am not a prostitute, but have you ever done sex work?
	No, I've not done sex work.
	Okay.
	So then let me ask this question.
	This is my quick, just very quick follow-up.
	If prostitution is good, why don't you engage in it?
	You just do it.
	So it is good for specific situations.
	I don't do it because I have chronic health conditions and because it is not good for me personally to engage with because I don't need that kind of exchange.
	So let us assume for somebody that you did not have the chronic health condition, and you knew it would make you a lot of money, would you do it?
	I've considered it just because I do erotic art and I do think that's what I hang on, hang on, back up.
	What is erotic art?
	Well, I draw other models, other people, in erotic, but artistic, passionate, and a very good thing.
	What does erotic mean in this sense?
	Does that mean they're having sex while you're drawing them?
	That has happened.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Oh, okay.
	So you have considered having sex while a person draws you.
	I assume you consider that to be, hang on.
	I just want to make sure I get this right.
	I assume you consider that to be prostitution.
	No, I don't consider that prostitution.
	I mean, no one's getting paid there.
	But if they were, would it be prostitution?
	That would be more like porn.
	Should we call it prostitution?
	Shouldn't we call it sex work as a more pornography prostitution?
	Well, that's what I'm saying.
	Let's call it sex work.
	Can we just switch the term?
	Well, no, I don't think so.
	I don't think I'm going to give a pass.
	We'll just call it sex work is that that's not prostitution.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	So just to go off of your own.
	You failed.
	We tried.
	So just to go off of your own point, prostitution is one thing.
	And by law, it is in some places illegal.
	However, porn, once you bring a camera into the picture, it is perfectly legal to do.
	So which is why, like, in general, prostitution, I think, is a good thing because it helps a lot of people psychologically get the release that they cannot get from the majority of the porn system.
	Let us assume we're not talking about porn.
	We're talking about prostitution.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I'm going to give her a chance to respond to all this, by the way.
	I really am, but I just want to make sure we get this clear.
	Were it so that you could make a moral distinction?
	So not all laws are moral, right?
	Can you make a moral delineation between having sex on camera for money versus having sex on the street for money?
	There's not really a moral delineation there, right?
	There's not.
	And I do not think that prostitution should be illegal in any way.
	Just like porn is not illegal.
	Just because there's not that much distinction, which is why combining it into the entire sex work combination and conversation wouldn't quite fit because prostitution is different from pornography only because of the law.
	Yeah, only because of the law, but not morally, right?
	But it's the same thing morally, right?
	Yeah, okay.
	It's similar morally.
	What's that?
	It's similar morally because porn is also acting and a lot of people on there are doing it for the entertainment of other people who ask for it versus one situation.
	It's entertainment for the purpose of the person asking for it.
	A lot of times it's for therapeutic, it's for the therapeutic purposes and for therapeutic.
	It's because of the people have different kinks, for example.
	Come on, like, let's be real.
	Okay, go on a walk.
	Gone a walk.
	The thing is that people's sexuality carries so much shame innately that they can't go.
	A lot of people feel they can't go and access those parts of themselves in any area of society except maybe with a sex worker or a pornography thing.
	And so, what I have loved about just let's just call it what it is.
	I love going to strip clubs because we just all know what we're here for.
	There's no freaking guys lying to me and saying they want to marry me when they just want to sleep with me.
	It's just, let's have a good time.
	It's just on the table.
	I think it's more ethical, to be honest.
	Why is it more ethical?
	Because it's a clearly expressed, honest, this is what you want.
	This is what I have to offer.
	This is how much it costs.
	Here we go.
	Versus, again, many women, we've all had these experiences with the lines with guys.
	They take us on a date.
	I don't understand.
	Wait, hang on.
	Hang on, hang on.
	I don't understand why that would be more ethical.
	If the delineation line is, hang on.
	If the delineation line is just, well, he says that he wants to go watch Stripper's strip, and I'm going with him.
	Why is that somehow more ethical than if he tells you, I don't want to go watch Stripper's strip with you?
	I don't get that.
	I wasn't even saying that context.
	I was saying, as a human being, when I enter a strip club, especially me being a woman, when I enter a strip club, I feel a lot more safe than if I go, for example, to a concert or some other thing surrounded by guys who think that they can come up to me and tell me whatever line to get whatever they want from me.
	If I go to a strip club, I know what these men are here for, and I'm only here because I'm fine with it.
	It's a safety because of the transparency and the honesty of everything's just out on the table of why we're all here versus all these deceptive little things.
	That's super weird, though.
	I don't actually understand that.
	It's just real.
	In strip clubs are more or less likely to be sexually assaulted than like a secretary.
	They're actually a lot less likely because they actually have the street smarts.
	Now, I'm not talking about the women who are just so sheltered, they don't actually ever get into any danger.
	Of course, they're physically safer.
	But let's say I'm a social worker.
	Do you think that prostitutes are less likely to be sexually assaulted than secretaries?
	I'm saying it's simply, okay, I'll put it to you this way: yes, right?
	If you drop a secretary in the middle of the street in Long Beach because her car broke down, girl's not going to have a good time.
	You drop a stripper, she's good.
	She's streetcar.
	Okay, it's true.
	I actually think that's a lie.
	So do I.
	That is a lie.
	That's my work.
	I talk to these people all day, every day.
	Hang on.
	If a secretary got dropped in Long Beach, statistically, she'd probably be fine.
	But if a secretary became a stripper, the statistics of her getting SA'd dramatically increase.
	Same thing if she's in the city.
	Okay, but you're looking at the wrong variable.
	You're blaming the sex work for the danger.
	It's not that.
	She's putting herself in a situation where it's literally just men that do not respect her.
	You know where I got abused the most?
	I'm trying to say something.
	In the church.
	Oh, forgot.
	All right.
	Well, it's that's where I got abused the most.
	Okay, the church, of course, every sector in life has abused sex.
	Well, it's really funny that you bring that up because in public school, you're far more likely to be SA'd than if you're inside of a church.
	I was very abused in the church in my own home.
	Everywhere I've gone, I felt the most safe in stripping.
	Somebody, can you read this?
	Sex work is only good for the trumpets and the devil.
	Imagine losing your soul, your family, your morals, and your self-worth for someone to pay a stick pee-pee in you.
	Or pay to stick a pee-pee in you.
	It's disgusting.
	That's fucking disgusting.
	Oh, can you read this?
	Holy shit.
	Some women are worthy of their presence.
	Among other things, they balance the evolutionary nature of the man.
	They bring peace.
	Blondie, that is not you.
	You are everything but peace.
	Andrew, there's a little speck on your microphone.
	I've been noticing it all night.
	I'm about to have an aneurysm.
	Don't do Andrew.
	You're killing me, bruv.
	Thank you.
	Okay, let me pull up these supers we have.
	Maddie, can you read this?
	Thank you for the Australian, bro.
	Brian, I know I'm in the same room, but I'm nervous to ask.
	But let me on the podcast, man.
	I want to debate as well.
	Also, stop dirty talking to me behind cameras.
	It's rude.
	I'm exposed.
	I have no idea what's going on.
	Kinky talks.
	See, they're kinky, too.
	All right.
	It's out there.
	Yes, I.
	Okay, anyways.
	Thank you.
	Ante Kosovic.
	Thank you, bro.
	Thank you for the Australian 200.
	What is that?
	Like a croissant or some shit?
	Okay.
	Take you on a date.
	I've never dated anyone for just sex.
	As a man, I've only ever approached a woman with the intent to date.
	Yet afterward, I'm the one who gets left behind because I'm so safe.
	Your logic is BS, Brown shirt.
	Damn.
	Because that's an exception to me too.
	And I feel for that guy.
	There's a lot of these nice guys that are like that.
	I'm not saying there's not.
	It's just there's a lot that aren't.
	So it's rough out here trying to sort through.
	That's all I'm saying.
	A lot of sort through.
	A lot of sorting through.
	You gotta sort.
	There's sorting.
	There's a sorting process.
	There's this testing system.
	You gotta learn it.
	There's a sorting system.
	Get a break.
	You gotta sort.
	Very complicated.
	That's what you gotta do.
	Now.
	Oh, we have another video.
	Let's also.
	Yeah, let's do.
	Go ahead.
	Play the other video.
	Can you try the copy and paste?
	I want to try to see if we can get Andrew on this.
	This is a really good one.
	Wait, what?
	Do I press on any of these?
	What do you mean, press on any of them?
	And then can you control?
	So control-click on Andrew and then drag him over to the other side.
	Yeah.
	But a little up.
	It should be magnetic.
	It's going to feel.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Go ahead.
	Play it.
	She's in a real talkie right now, ladies.
	The reason they sweat shame us is because once a woman is fully empowered in her sexuality, no shame is going to touch her.
	She's fully confident.
	She's a healthy, grown-ass woman.
	She's very selective with who she shares her sexual energy with.
	She knows what she's doing.
	Maybe put up with Andrew's.
	She knows what she likes.
	She never disrespects her body.
	I never disrespect my body.
	But I do all of what I do because that's what my pussy wanted to go.
	We have adventure.
	You know what I mean?
	So once you figure out, though, ladies, you can monetize pussy in every way you want.
	Whenever you see money, men lose all their power over you.
	Because they got nothing.
	Sex always know.
	There's a reason, ladies.
	Now, we don't have to do that.
	Holy fuck, the wind.
	What are you in the wind tunnel?
	What the fuck?
	I'm just in a real t-shirt.
	Wait, so you said monetizing the pussy.
	I just want to make sure I know.
	That doesn't have to be sex.
	That could be you're essentially you're monetizing your feminine S.
	But you've really, but hang on, hang on real quick.
	I just want to make sure.
	How old did you say you were?
	38.
	38?
	Who?
	You really put you put on the makeup.
	Man, that looked like a different person.
	Literally that looked like a different human being than the one who's sitting in front of me, right?
	I'm not going to lie.
	It looked like a different person.
	The lighting was, it was lighting.
	I was out at the pool with my kids and I had a lot of fun.
	And it was a filter.
	There was a filter on there.
	I wasn't wearing makeup.
	I was just out at the pool and I just quickly made this video.
	It was windy.
	The sound wasn't great.
	The point was not embarrassing.
	When a woman gets to the point where no shame can touch her sexuality, she is free.
	Ladies, that could just mean that you become a model if you want or whatever.
	But you're in a sense, you're owning your body, you're owning your sexiness, and you're okay with monetizing that if you want.
	You don't have to.
	I'm not saying that.
	No, I know.
	I'm simply saying it's a very empowered place to be to know.
	I mean, I got, you know, bikini people sending, wear these bikinis and we'll send you money and just take the pictures.
	There's a lot of perks to just being sexual.
	Specifically, you're talking about men monetizing off of men specifically.
	No, she said monetizing.
	Anybody.
	I have women.
	Women actually, you would be surprised.
	I have a lot of female clientele.
	I think it's fake freedom, though, because you're feeling your desires and it feels good right now.
	And you may, I don't know what happened in your past where it's like you feel like you're not coming, getting your comeback, but it's false.
	It's not true freedom.
	You're a slave to sex.
	You're a slave to having to sell your body to get something.
	Honey, I don't have to sell my body.
	I sell my body because it's fucking fun.
	Literally, your whole life is a lot of fun.
	I'm simply saying I am liberated to do it.
	Can you say that one more time, just the way you said it?
	Okay.
	I can't even remember.
	You said you sell your body.
	Because it's fucking fun.
	It's not fun.
	It's very fucking fun.
	I told you I'm a prostitute.
	It's our own.
	Yeah.
	You were saying you weren't a prostitute.
	Because I was trying to help you.
	Nobody have a more liberated perspective, but it wasn't going anywhere.
	So fine, I'm a prostitute.
	We can call it that.
	I don't give a shit.
	Yes, I'm a prostitute.
	I stand at the corner and I suck whatever dick pays the right price.
	Woohoo!
	You guys found out.
	Tell us more.
	Stop.
	Tell us more.
	So do you?
	Okay.
	No.
	Do you want to talk about holiday tricks?
	What do you want to say?
	Tell us more.
	I want to hear more of the scope of the prostitution.
	I got a great idea.
	I will tell you the one example of when it really was a true prostitution situation.
	Do you want to hear it?
	Okay.
	So, I love this story.
	Okay, it was so fun.
	So I decided I'm just going to try this.
	What is the big deal with the prostitution?
	Can I do it?
	Can I actually go fuck a guy and just get the money right there?
	Okay, so I met a man on whatever these sites where you meet the business guys, whatever it was, seeking arrangements or something like that.
	Seeking arrangements, I think.
	And of course, I vetted him.
	I made sure, you know, I like the look.
	I like the vibe.
	He's respectable, blah, blah.
	We arranged it beforehand.
	We pre-established a price.
	He's going to take me to this nice dinner.
	I love steak.
	Very expensive dinner.
	If things go well, I'm happy to go to his house.
	If I go to his house, the price is going to be what the price is.
	I stepped it to him.
	Well, how much was the price for the dinner?
	It was just the dinner.
	Oh, you just cut the story?
	Yeah, it was just like a normal thing.
	So, how much was the price for the carnal knowledge after the carnal knowledge?
	A girl's got to have her secrets.
	No, I'm just curious.
	There's no secrets here.
	This is a safe space.
	You're with the girls.
	You're with the gals.
	You're with the girl.
	All right, girls.
	So this is what it was.
	It was my rent.
	It was my rent.
	$2,700.
	Woo!
	Damn, that's nice.
	That's an exciting thing.
	But still not desperate.
	That's a lot of money.
	I could have been desperate because I didn't have to go home with him.
	I could have just had a nice meal and went my way.
	But I vibed with the man.
	I liked the conversation.
	And I had never, let me just real talk to you.
	My parents are very young.
	They had me like as teenagers.
	So my parents are only like 57.
	This man was 56.
	I kind of had a little kink.
	I had never been with an older man like that close to my dad's age.
	We vibed.
	The conversation went well.
	I felt safe with him.
	I felt respected.
	We don't have to do that.
	Well, I do just have a very, very quick, very quick follow-up.
	Point being, he put the money in my purse when I went to leave, and I was like, what's this money for?
	And he was laughing.
	I forgot that that's what I was even doing because I had had such a good time.
	That's such a wholesome.
	That's really Roberts.
	You were Julia Robertson personal.
	Yes, I was.
	It was fun.
	I was living my best life.
	It was a bucket list thing.
	It was a bucket list thing.
	Let me ask you a very quick follow-up.
	Hang on.
	So do you consider yourself to be a truth teller?
	Yes.
	Is that that's a that is a thing which you consider yourself to be?
	Yes.
	So I just have to ask you this: in truth, would you recommend that most women follow your lifestyle?
	I would not say most.
	No.
	What about your daughter?
	Good to know.
	My daughter would be fine living my lifestyle because I've trained her from the beginning of how to do it.
	Holy crap.
	Why would you know?
	Why would you want to sell her life?
	Let's fucking do it.
	I'm not saying she has to sell her pussy.
	I'm simply saying I am raising my daughters to feel empowered to make their money.
	It's not everybody feels good.
	It's degrading our asses.
	That's your opinion.
	It's not under any attack.
	You know what's not in that?
	Guess what?
	Guess how bullied my daughters get because they're the it girls.
	Because your mom, their mom is possible.
	No, the kids have no idea what I'm doing.
	Well, eventually they will know.
	But guess what?
	I have empowered my daughters to come home.
	And because they are all so little bad bitches, they're not holding on to their trauma.
	They're not getting eating disorders when the girls are talking about their big asses.
	I was getting eating disorders.
	I was getting raped.
	I was getting all these things.
	Don't say that.
	Well, okay.
	Don't say that.
	I was not being treated well because I was raised by the good mom who we don't do this and we don't do that.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	It's just because you made bad decisions.
	You do.
	It's because I was literally.
	We can't go into it.
	I'm not talking about that part.
	I mean, in my book, I'm not talking about that.
	The whole story is not.
	Like, in general, you've made bad decisions and now you're telling your daughters to continue those bad decisions.
	No, of course we don't.
	No, I'm telling my daughters, you are so fucking valuable.
	You put it to them.
	That boy wants to talk to you and you're having bring you a necklace.
	The light off your lips first.
	I am not treating you.
	Are you for me?
	I'm not even going to defend myself.
	Most kids are taught, not taught.
	They're going to look at you because you're getting triggered because you know it's true.
	I am raising empowered.
	Hang on.
	Stop, stop.
	Do whatever they want.
	They're not going to be shamed for doing whatever they want to do.
	You can't help yourself.
	You need to calm down for a second.
	Just let me finish the follow-up.
	The reason I ask the question: here's a follow-up: if you could prescribe to most women to be virtuous, or for most women to act in a way that you act where everything is transactional, which would you prescribe in truth?
	That's a complicated question.
	I would say, to be honest, if I had advice for blanket to everyone.
	Let me give you the question again.
	So that you understand it.
	If you could prescribe that most women be virtuous, or most women follow a lifestyle like you follow.
	Or.
	So virtuous.
	Or let them ask the question.
	Let's ask the question.
	Virtuous, meaning follows chastity, temperance, all of the different what you might consider cardinal virtues.
	We'll just make it easy, or philosophical virtues.
	Or they could follow your lifestyle of purely transactional-based interactions with men, which could lead to sex that pay their bills.
	Which would you recommend for most women?
	I would recommend my lifestyle for most women until we get to a different place in society where it would be safe for women to fall back into the more traditional way of being.
	They're just going to be dodging STDs for the rest of their life.
	I mean, this is a very simple thing.
	Unplanned pregnancy.
	You're just going to have abortions every two days.
	No, they'll never be able to form an actual connection.
	No, they're going to be too broken to even form an actual connection with a really good man.
	What?
	What?
	I mean, you're right.
	You guys, Lissy is actually a muscle, so that's actually false.
	A vagina is a muscle.
	I need to break it down.
	It needs to have exercise.
	Or it gets very loose and not very fun.
	Yeah, I feel like you are.
	That's all you see real.
	You're grooming your daughters to be.
	Listen, that's not even true of female physiology.
	That a vagina needs to be worked out by a bunch of penises.
	I fought for this country.
	This is what I get to see.
	I'm glad Andrew and Brian tried.
	But holy hell, our baptism is D-Day.
	You are made over and of standard.
	Anyway, why do you think that a vagina needs to be worked out with penises?
	Why do you think that that's a female physiology?
	That's ridiculous.
	It doesn't have to be a penis.
	She can do her kegel exercises with weight.
	She can have her own orgasms that she can cause.
	There's many ways to exercise a vagina.
	She can work out the entire bottom half of her body without ever doing masturbation.
	But guess what?
	Sex is really fun.
	She can do all of these things.
	Why do you think it requires any sort of masturbation, penetration?
	That's completely made up.
	The vagina is not going to go bad because you're not masturbating anything.
	It actually is a muscle.
	It will atrophy.
	You're actually going to be able to do it.
	It'll do some squats.
	No, I'm not atrophying.
	It is a lot more complicated than you would.
	That would be that female nuns, their vaginas atrophy.
	Yeah, their vaginas inside get very numb.
	They get very numb.
	Andrew, that's our voice.
	Andrew, Andrew, that's going to be our band name.
	Atrophy pussy.
	That's our band name.
	All I have to say is you guys obviously don't like sex.
	The vagina is going to be numb.
	Really?
	The numbers ven.
	Yeah, there's a lot of numbers in deck.
	You play guitar.
	I'll do vocals.
	I'll unsource this.
	Oh, you remained a virgin your whole life.
	Your vagina doesn't work anymore.
	Kimonami.
	Kimonami is the one to do.
	I've ever heard in my life.
	And I've heard a lot of them.
	Says the man who has a penis instead of a vagina.
	But he's telling you.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Andrew, confirm or deny, do you have a penis?
	Andrew, confirmed.
	Confirm do you have a penis?
	Do you have a vagina too we don't know about?
	Most doctors, I'm sorry, most doctors who work on women's vaginas are male.
	And you know that their success rate is much higher than that.
	And they make their money by telling us that we need them to fix something about our vagina because we can't just go figure it out ourselves.
	Hashtag vaginal potential.
	They do have to fix things about your vagina.
	They wouldn't have to if every woman was sexually liberated and understood her own body.
	Sexually liberated.
	Oh, man.
	Like, don't male doctors who are gynecologists fix your vagina?
	I'm sorry.
	I don't go to gynecologists.
	I don't ascribe to Western medicine.
	I actually delivered my own babies.
	I learned how to be a midwife.
	And I actually, my last baby, I delivered her myself in my bathroom alone by myself.
	And I also did my own prenatal care.
	So I am not the typical woman.
	That's why it gets annoying to get judged as if I'm just like a cock.
	I'm a sex.
	I had a friend of mine.
	Wait, hold on.
	Hold on.
	She got a cut off in surgery.
	All right.
	So, hold on.
	So.
	You don't take antibiotics?
	What was I going to do?
	I did get an infected.
	I got bit by a black widow three times in the same spot, and my arm was starting to not do well with that.
	So I did take antibiotics.
	Oh, my God.
	And I'm very conservative with antibiotics.
	The reason I care is because who invented those antibiotics?
	Man.
	Do you use the iPhone?
	Do you drive a car?
	Do you have to do anything?
	Literally all built by men.
	I'm trying to do it.
	Speaking against men.
	I wasn't saying anything about men.
	I was talking about vaginas.
	I've got to talk about our GPS system.
	Wait, I have a question for you.
	I don't know if you'd be down for this.
	Do you think we could get your previous, like, your husbands on the show?
	Do you think they'd be down to come on?
	Ooh, interesting.
	Well, with you.
	So they can't, like, so it's a conversation.
	Okay.
	So the last one that beat me, obviously, that's not a safe situation.
	The one before that, he's a good person.
	I don't know.
	Honestly, he's still very, he's still very convinced.
	I don't know how to fuck him up.
	Yeah, talk to him.
	Would you?
	Okay, well, no, no, no.
	I'd like you to know that.
	If he were to attack you in the studio, he's such a coward.
	He would never even, he's not going to come face to face until recording.
	This is not my request, okay?
	So I don't care about any of that.
	The first husband is too conservative.
	He wouldn't feel comfortable with these types of talks.
	Oh, the conservative whatever possibility.
	No, I'm just saying he's not comfortable fully with his own sexuality.
	So these conversations would make him very uncomfortable, and he wouldn't want to really engage.
	His marriages would like Christian.
	We'll keep it clean.
	We'll keep it clean.
	If you're watching, let us know.
	Hi, Ian.
	You know what?
	Ian, I have to say, I do really appreciate my first husband that I had the kids with.
	I can understand, and I have told him this many times.
	It was at least 51% my fault that our relationship didn't work well because I was the educator.
	You're kidding.
	I never would have guessed.
	Look at that.
	That's growth.
	I have, you guys, I know I come across as cocky, but that is genuinely because I have evaluated each, like, I will apologize to you guys if after I'm like, I was so rude.
	I'll apologize.
	I'd like an apology.
	Sometimes it takes a minute.
	I am sorry.
	I will suck your dick.
	I'll suck his dad.
	So, why is it your fault?
	Why is it your fault?
	Or why was it your fault?
	Hang on, hang on.
	I got to ask you.
	Because I did the thing where instead of loving that damn.
	Hold on one second.
	Listen, Brian is very partial.
	If you want the best apology, to bow.
	If you could do a bow for Brian, I don't even want to know that you are actually sorry.
	Oh, Jesus.
	I'm not that kind of person.
	I will bow like this.
	I don't care.
	But no, you guys, what was so toxic about that?
	Odie, so I'm done.
	Because I had an agenda with the man.
	I wasn't in love with him.
	You still do that to this day, though.
	You have an agenda with men.
	I do.
	But when it comes to the men who I genuinely value and respect as human beings, I have no agenda other than to get to know them.
	That's all.
	I didn't have that level of maturity when I was a young 20s.
	I had to grow into not in a relationship that you're going to call a marriage person.
	That should never be a transactional thing.
	So, how many of those men are still in your life that you value?
	And don't you?
	I have lots of friends and stuff in my life, men that I love.
	I'm not talking about friends.
	I'm talking about like romantic relationships.
	What do you mean?
	I used to do drugs.
	I still do what I used to do.
	What do I mean?
	Romantic relationships.
	Well, I thought she said she didn't really have romantic.
	I'll say this.
	I'll tell you this.
	I'll tell you this.
	My one friend with husband benefits right now.
	I have one friend who has husband benefits.
	And he has husband benefits because he's a great man.
	What's husband benefits?
	Like you're pushing.
	What does that mean?
	So weren't you?
	Yeah, like anybody who's sleeping.
	No, I actually don't sleep around, contrary to popular belief.
	So you're with your body count.
	So you're with the guy?
	I have no idea.
	I don't count.
	I have no idea.
	I just love it.
	Do you range?
	Do you want to range?
	I honestly couldn't tell you.
	It could be, okay, I could give you a range.
	Yeah, range.
	It could be anywhere from 50, it could be 100.
	I'm not really sure.
	It could be 1,000.
	No, it wouldn't be 1,000.
	I just haven't even.
	You guys, I lived in the whole conservative life until only five years ago.
	Yeah, but that's what's in the five hours.
	For a woman, I could be sleeping anyway.
	Here's the thing, I'm not going to be able to do that.
	I can go fuck anybody I want, baby.
	You don't think that every time you sleep with someone, you kind of lose a part of yourself?
	No, not at all.
	That's such a misconception.
	I gain knowledge of myself.
	But you're not able to actually.
	What is it?
	Like, you're not able to actually bond, pair bond with someone because you're just numb to it.
	No, that's not true because I don't sleep with people on that level.
	What do you call it?
	What about you?
	I don't have casual men.
	What about the guy that you said that is so great?
	Why aren't you with him?
	How's he saying he's a brain?
	I don't have sex.
	He's 54.
	His kids are young.
	My kids are little.
	Just realistically, there's not a compatibility enough there.
	Of course, the man would probably.
	Show us your tummy, Andrew.
	The man would want to marry me.
	Men don't.
	He would want me in that way, but I have the wisdom to know you're not going to want to raise little kids again.
	Right now, he's thinking with other parts.
	I have to be the wisdom to say, we'll have a great time together.
	Tits.
	I'll help you.
	Essentially, he's very stunted sexually.
	Okay, he's very stunted sexually because he had a 20-year-old.
	I literally can't keep up.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm still stuck on 520.
	He's stunted sexually, but he's a great man.
	Actually, very similar.
	Okay, you don't even know what he's doing.
	I think it's true.
	You know what?
	I really like that.
	Hold on, Maddie, read these two chats, then we're going to go to the next step.
	Strumpet is wild.
	After the patriarchy builds their entire fantasy world, they destroy men's lives and say it was at least 51% my fault.
	Also, I lost to the matriarchy today.
	Sorry, bros.
	GG.
	Next.
	Yo, Stacey, good to see you in the chat.
	Thank you for the message.
	We have another one here from U.S. Sapper coming in in just a moment.
	Thank you.
	Love your channel.
	Hope to get out one day.
	Andrew, keep up the good fight.
	Brian as a sapper.
	I don't know.
	What does that mean?
	Esséance?
	Essayance.
	Essayance.
	As a sapper.
	What is essay?
	Hold on.
	Let us try.
	Sapper is a military term for somebody who sabotages walls or defenses.
	There you go.
	Essayance.
	So it's like bring down.
	The U.S. Army Engineer regimental motto is essayant.
	It is French for let us try.
	Let us try.
	Well put.
	What's the other thing from World War I in France?
	It is il ne passe.
	Il il ne parse pas.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Dude, I'm about you.
	I'm about you.
	Like, because I was born in France, right?
	The French national anthem is the most gangster shit because in it, it's.
	What the fuck?
	That's not, that's definitely not an answer.
	That is rental.
	Check this shit out.
	The French national anthem.
	It's the translation roughly translated in Brian Speak.
	It goes something along the lines of we will fertilize our soil with the blood of our enemies.
	Wow.
	Well, we also have to do that.
	That's some gangster shit.
	Catholics say, like, body of Christ.
	What?
	Wait, Maddie, could you read this from Stacey?
	Question for the ladies.
	Why do you think all major societies have had laws restricting the behavior of women?
	Islam likely the most restrictive.
	Sorry, I didn't see the last part.
	Feminism the other extreme.
	Well, why do you think all major societies have had laws?
	Because I feel like it's just in our nature to slip.
	And I don't know.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I don't really have an answer for that.
	I think it's a control thing, and the sad thing is...
	Hold on, let's hear from some of the other...
	Emily.
	Oh, what about you?
	That's not a word.
	Or poor Emily.
	Poor Emily.
	And Jess.
	And Kashawn.
	Kashwan.
	Keshwan.
	Sorry, sorry.
	And Alex.
	And D.
	And Madison.
	No, D's men.
	And Andrew.
	D's and Ryan.
	What was it again?
	Just over here.
	Why do you think there's so many laws in society against women?
	Like, Islam is one of the most prominent ones.
	Why do you think all major societies have had laws restricting the behavior of women?
	Specifically.
	I don't know.
	Maybe because like.
	All right, Jess, next.
	Maybe I think because.
	Oh, were you going to answer?
	Yeah, I was going to say something, but it's okay.
	No, I was going to say, maybe just because, like, that's, like, their religion.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that's, like, just, yeah.
	Jess.
	I think mainly just because then women will start thinking like that.
	Hello?
	You mean, like.
	Guys are so infatuated with a woman's body that we've taken advantage of what we can do with it.
	And then they realize it.
	We realize it.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's just move it on.
	Let's just move it on.
	Well, let me just get the reader's digestive.
	Society also governs men's behavior for a reason.
	So they tailor in laws that govern to men's behavior because men have an ontology.
	We recognize that in law.
	We recognize that there might be behavior which is perhaps more violent or more vitriolic or various things like this and temper that in.
	Why wouldn't you do the same thing for women?
	It makes total sense.
	If you have laws tailored towards men, why wouldn't you have it tailored towards women's nature as well?
	That's why that exists.
	Interesting.
	So are you talking like the ways in which men and women will the ways in which aggression will manifest differently between men and women?
	For example, men will be physically violent and women will they can they can be violent, but they'll resort to like reputation destruction, for example.
	Is that kind of what you're talking about?
	And so what happens is because we because most places, especially those with a religious connotation, don't think that we're blank slates.
	They don't think that men and women are interchangeable widgets.
	So they tailor societal laws based on that.
	That's why.
	So they go, okay, there's things that we see which are very common with women, things which we see which are very common for men, and we tailor laws between men and women for that reason.
	That makes total sense, by the way.
	Why wouldn't that make sense?
	Well, why don't we see play girl?
	And why don't we see guys in speedos and like you do?
	Why aren't they like with their bodies out there like women are and prostituting themselves on the corner where with like why aren't they doing that?
	Well, so it's a matter of yeah I think I understand.
	Dressing like sissies, like dressing like men.
	Yeah, I think I understand what you're saying.
	You mean like that?
	I guess we made those rules for ourselves.
	Quick answer if you can, yeah.
	So I just want to make sure I get it right.
	You're saying, why is it that you don't see men acting as though they're women?
	Like hookers on the street, not just as hookers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, I mean, it's supply and demand.
	Yeah.
	Because we understand a man's nature is different than a woman's nature.
	It's very easy for women to get sex from basically whoever they want.
	If you go out with a sign tomorrow and say, come over here and have sex with me, there'll be a never-ending amount of men who will line up.
	However, if you do the opposite, if a man goes out with a sign, it's not going to be the same thing.
	So what we're looking at is we're looking at the difference between the nature of the two.
	But then the problem really comes in: who writes these laws and writes all of the things in the first place?
	Because the majority of times, women aren't really involved in the creation of all of these.
	I agree, good, because women are emotional and they're going to.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay.
	Oh, I was just saying, yeah, like women are emotional and we don't always think logically.
	And so when men make the laws, it's just for boundaries.
	And I look at it even like from a biblical perspective: is like God gave us boundaries.
	It's like going back to the men who are leaders.
	Why?
	Because they hopefully are submitted to you.
	Look pretty skeptical, but let me ask you a question.
	Like, I see the skeptical look on your face.
	I think that that's fair.
	Have you ever heard this phrase?
	Wait till your father gets home.
	Have you ever heard that phrase?
	Yes, yes.
	Yes, except I was more afraid of my mother.
	Yeah, and she was the one who pushed.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Just stop.
	The common, the common, wait till your father gets home.
	This implies what?
	That the father is going to what?
	Discipline and make the choice.
	That I discipline him.
	And that generally they're better at it.
	You know what you don't hear in society?
	You know what you never hear?
	Wait till your mother gets home.
	Nobody ever, it's so.
	I mean, unless you're in a black culture, unless you have a weak father figure.
	The black men are very irreverent of the mother.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Listen, there's going to be exceptions to all rules.
	There could be a household.
	Hang on, there could be a household somewhere where it's wait till your mom gets home.
	But for the most part, it's wait till your dad gets home.
	And the reason is why?
	Because the father is generally considered the disciplinarian.
	Why?
	Because the ontology of men is different than women.
	And so when you look at it, you look at who's the kid going to be more afraid of.
	Why are they going to be more afraid of it?
	What's going to get him more in line?
	It's not going to be mom.
	It's going to be dad with the belt, right?
	Or the one who controls the dad with a belt.
	I don't even, but we're not even a lot of bank anymore, are we?
	You said something about black households.
	Yeah, what the heck was that about?
	Yeah, so I just have, I just have a lot of experience with black culture, with black culture.
	And I have noticed that the average black man coming to me is much more respectful of me as like a single mom, especially because the ones that I've been dealing with, at least they were always single moms.
	And so maybe the dad would have been the disciplinarian, but in large part, they weren't even around, really.
	Wait, that goes to the corner.
	Is this racism?
	I'm not saying it has to be racial or cultural.
	No, it doesn't.
	It definitely doesn't.
	It definitely doesn't.
	I'm simply talking about what I've experienced.
	As a white man, I don't feel like I'm, it's, you know, it's not my space to speak on this topic.
	I'd like to defer to a black woman on this.
	That's me.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, no, I was definitely afraid of my dad.
	Whenever my mom said, I'm going to tell your father or wait till your father gets home, I was fucking scared.
	Because I wasn't afraid of my mom with the belt.
	I would always act like it hurt just so she would stop.
	But then when I knew that my dad was coming home, I would literally cry and beg to her, please don't tell dad, don't tell dad, because I knew he was about to discipline me.
	Like, he's scary.
	And I had one of those things.
	What she's alluding to, so that you understand, what you're appealing to is the normalcy of X thing.
	So you could say, let's assume for a second that nine out of ten people have a single mom, right?
	Then yeah, sure, nine out of ten people might appeal to wait till your mom gets home.
	But in the common denominators where there's both a mother and a father, almost everybody in those dynamics appeals to wait till dad gets home.
	You see the distinction?
	But I'm also very embarrassed to disappoint my father.
	I got the move things on.
	Maddie, can you read this please?
	Disappointing.
	I have lots of experience with black culture.
	Typical white women.
	Please allow the black woman to smack her upside the head.
	Only she went to say something crazy.
	All right.
	Well, just to be honest, I'm a street person.
	So I know I look white, but I honestly don't know.
	Are you realizing a street person?
	So you're basically insinuating all black people.
	No, no, no, I'm not.
	And I'm not.
	I'm not at all.
	But in this demographic where I happen to live, the main street Palace of Verde?
	No, I grew up in Yucaipa.
	I grew up in Yucaipa.
	It's in the Inland Empire.
	It's white prominent.
	It's dominantly white.
	Right.
	So I'm just saying, though, I didn't identify with the white culture.
	I identified with the Hispanic and the black cultures because that was the socioeconomic status that I came from.
	I don't know.
	Maybe there's black people are more Ucaipa.
	No, I know.
	And I know.
	And I'm not making a blanket statement.
	I'm simply saying my experience.
	My experience and my truth.
	My truth.
	That's just my truth of my experience.
	Wait, you kip.
	What is it?
	Where are you?
	Yukaipa.
	Not the truth.
	Why you see?
	Y-U-C-A-I-P-A.
	San Bernardino.
	It's a little nicer now because we had housing developments come in, but it was pretty ghetto, and I lived in the worst ghetto part.
	I mean, I was almost getting kidnapped and stuff going to school.
	Yeah, Ucaipa wasn't safe for sure.
	It was not safe.
	Okay.
	What is it?
	What's the.
	It's probably dominant.
	There's not very many.
	I just know it's not the black community.
	I definitely don't.
	I don't know nothing about this.
	I didn't grow up middle class.
	I grew up in middle school.
	So wait, wait, Nick, can you carry it?
	I got everything I ever wanted from.
	The Ucaipa.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'll do it in private chat.
	Just because I feel like this is.
	You gotta go Ucaipa from the freaking.
	The fact that you even related the streets with knowing black culture, like, what's that about?
	Hip-hop.
	Listen to the hip-hop lyrics, you guys, and that is straightforward.
	It's all RB.
	I didn't know that.
	Okay, so listen to Megan Cecilia.
	Listen to Cardi B the way that these women are trash.
	That's ratchet.
	But I'm saying that is my soul.
	That's my soul.
	I'm sorry about that.
	Okay, wait.
	Ratchet man, that's my best.
	79% traveling.
	Scroll down.
	2000.
	Scroll down.
	Crazy.
	Hold on.
	You got to incorporate San Bernardino because that's where I was.
	Oh, you said Ucaipa.
	I know that's where I lived.
	I was partying in San Bernardino.
	Zip it good.
	Zip it.
	Okay.
	Oh, I like that.
	The racial makeup was 85% white, 0.9% African American, 1% Native American, 1.2% Asian.
	I'm saying.
	It makes me look like.
	Dude, that's more white than Santa Barbara.
	Oh, I know.
	Which is like the whitest.
	I know, but what I'm simply saying is I didn't identify with that group.
	I had to go identify with the other two black people that you saw.
	But I wasn't just hanging out with them.
	I was going to San Bernardino and going into clubs, and I was getting into clubs because I have heavy Mexican.
	Black people love me.
	Black guys love me.
	Black people love me.
	They do.
	Well, I'm saying that.
	I'm saying the men.
	I'm the black male men.
	I can't.
	This is too much.
	Before we get into the ratings, I would like to say that the one in the red is a perfect 10.
	I hope she finds love soon and won't have to deal with all the nonsense in the dating scene today.
	Dr. Simpi is that, dude.
	What?
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	You need to apologize for being a simp.
	I love you.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Maddie, go.
	How much is one plus one plus one plus one?
	Would the question be easier to answer if we were counting how many pee-pees you can house in your strumpy?
	Your general disposition has been abhorred.
	You are deluded.
	Delulu.
	Wow.
	One plus one plus one plus one is four.
	Doc Venabille donated 200.
	Dr. Nablie.
	Alert.
	Glondie has admitted tonight to the following: prostitution, tax evasion, child abuse, spiritually barren, and now racism.
	Notified the Demi Monday to CPS Jesse Jackson.
	Is a bear market coming?
	Do you want us to do bear versus bear men?
	I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Yo, Doc Venably, thank you, man.
	Yeah, we got more.
	There's so much to get through.
	Okay, so let's do the rating one to ten thing really quick.
	So what do you rate your looks?
	Unfortunately, Stiffler, when we cut the previous stream, we lost him.
	What do you rate your looks on a scale of one to ten?
	Me?
	Yeah, starting with you, go ahead.
	And it depends if I'm wearing a wig or not.
	It depends if I'm wearing a wig or not, but I'm a what?
	A wig or not?
	This is a wig.
	So you're eight without the wig, ten with the wig?
	No, eight and a half.
	Either way.
	Naturally, I think I'm more beautiful.
	So now I'm within the eight.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	Then why did you wear the wig?
	Because it is very human here, and if you're a girl, hair that's attached to your head poofs up, and hair that is on a wig and is dead stays.
	Wouldn't you be more naturally beautiful that way?
	Hold on.
	Let's just get through the segment.
	Go ahead.
	So we're just talking like we wake up in the morning and what do we think we are with nothing?
	Can't say seven.
	Eight?
	I don't know.
	Okay.
	Nine.
	Seven.
	Eight.
	Six.
	Eight.
	Eight.
	Give myself a five.
	Why?
	Andrew?
	What about you, Andrew?
	Well, I mean, if the comparison here is all these eights, then I'm going to give myself an 11.
	I like it.
	I'm like, there you go.
	The most human delusional shit that I've ever heard.
	First of all, there's not even a woman here who's an eight.
	I'm just going to be honest with you.
	Not even one who's an eight.
	Oh, sorry, Maddie.
	Not a one.
	And the thing is, is a lot of you are likable.
	Maybe, perhaps not the blonde, but many of you are very likable people.
	But how delusional can you be?
	You're not eights.
	That's ridiculous.
	It's ridiculous all the time.
	We just saw a video, for instance.
	Wait, what?
	We just saw a video of the chatty of the chatty Kathy here.
	I said I was a seven.
	I never saw that.
	She didn't even look in that video.
	She didn't even look nearly like what she looks like in studio right now.
	I mean, you guys could all see it.
	And what world do you live in where you think you're eights?
	We got a lot of people.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, I have this conversation with my friends all the time.
	To some people, I'm an eight.
	To some people, I'm a three.
	Like, it is what it is.
	Like, but personally, I'm going to lean more towards the 10 side because I want, no, like, I'm saying eight because if I'm a three, then where's my confidence that how I'm going to walk into a room?
	How am I going to be able to get away from that?
	Let me have a conversation in a different way.
	Okay.
	Let me ask it a different way.
	In my opinion, Scarlett Johansson in her prime is an eight.
	No, she's a 10.
	If we go around the table again, Scarlett Johansson in her prime as being an eight, do any of your answers change?
	Yeah, and that's that's we all have different scales.
	I think that's what happens too.
	I'm not thinking of Scarlett Johanson.
	I'm not thinking about it.
	Yeah, so what would you be if Scarlett Johansson in her prime is an eight?
	What are you?
	A solid three.
	A solid three?
	A solid three.
	So why?
	But here, but here in this room, if we're going to do this here, I would say eight.
	I mean, this is an example of toxic masculinity.
	Why are we comparing?
	It doesn't make sense.
	It's being in touch with reality.
	I don't understand.
	In what way?
	What are you doing?
	It's just reality.
	It's an objective standard for things which are clearly objective and you're competing for.
	Well, it's reality.
	Then why is it that you would answer to the scale in the first place?
	Well, I still didn't ask this.
	I think we were just trying to comply.
	What's the choice of telling?
	No, yeah.
	Wait, you were trying to comply with what?
	What you consider a male standard for beauty.
	Fair enough.
	I believe it's succeed that it could be a male standard of beauty.
	But I think we all answered.
	It's a male standard of beauty and Scarlett Johansson's an eight.
	Can you tell me what that makes you?
	Well, I'm going bissed off of what my boyfriend tells me.
	He'd be gasping.
	So he can be lying, but you know what?
	I'm going to go basically.
	To the blanche.
	That was your question.
	If Scarlett Johansson was an eight in her prime, what are you?
	I'd say I'm an eight too.
	Yeah.
	So you look like just Scarlett Johansson in her prime.
	I think I'm a very beautiful woman.
	I think she's a very beautiful woman.
	I don't see that there's a discrepancy there.
	We all have our moments of rolling out of bed and we all have a glam-up look.
	So I just want to make sure that if we were to put you and Scarlett Johansson in her prime in front of every man inside of the world that you think they would consider you and Scarlett Johansson on par with each other.
	I do because different men have different flavors.
	So maybe half of them would like her better and half of them.
	I can see that too.
	But the reality is if we have two flowers.
	I'm going to take a fetish place and some of them don't look at my boobs whatsoever.
	Their eyes go straight down to my feet.
	Okay, that's true.
	But if we're looking at two flowers and one flower has like dents in it, it has like leaves removed.
	It's still beautiful.
	It's a flower.
	But if you're looking at a rose that's just like in its prime, we're going to be like, oh, I'm going to choose this one to give to my mom because reality.
	You know what?
	You're totally right.
	Me and Hugo Jackson in his prime, we're exactly the same.
	We look exactly.
	You know what?
	If he's a 10 as a man, I'm also a 10 as a man then.
	I guess we'll just do it that way.
	I'll be as delusional as you guys are.
	I don't know if I'm delusional in any sense.
	The best looking men on planet Earth.
	I'm on par with him because I really feel like they should.
	All right, hold on, hold on.
	So as your wife, what is your wife on a scale one to ten?
	What is your husband on a scale of one to ten?
	I don't have a husband.
	What is your boyfriend?
	I'm pretty sure you think that your wife is the most beautiful.
	He's a 10 in the world.
	He's a 10.
	No.
	He's actually.
	I still have a.
	Listen.
	Wait, hold on.
	You answer me.
	Hold on.
	Answer me first.
	So, like, for instance, let us assume for a second that we were rewind 20 years.
	And I were to go 20 years ago when my wife was in her 20s instead.
	And you were to say, can I have the same woman just in the 20-year-old body versus the 40-some-year-old body?
	I would say, sure.
	What would actually be problematic with that?
	No, okay, I'm just glad you said that.
	Okay, then we can.
	No, Answer my question.
	What would be problematic with that?
	I would say it's not problematic, but it would probably hurt your wife's feelings, but it's reality.
	It does not hurt her feelings, but why do you think she keeps her ass in shape?
	She keeps her ass in shape.
	She's 100%.
	She wants to look the best that she possibly can for her age.
	But she's going to age regardless, though.
	She's going to have to maintain her relationship.
	Because she wants to be a little bit more.
	Hold on.
	I'm sorry.
	A good mom, a good wife, a good.
	But okay, so you're saying that age is going to change the number that you give your wife?
	And that's okay if it does.
	I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.
	Yeah, well, of course, I think that beauty standards are at least reasonably objective.
	Yeah, okay, I think that's a good idea.
	I think that my wife would be the first one to tell you that she knows that that's true.
	And so the thing is, is that while it may be true that she thinks I'm better looking than she is, or I think she's better looking than I am, it doesn't mean that I think that she's the same or equal in beauty standards to Scarlett Johansson in her prime.
	I'm not delusional.
	So what would you give her?
	What would you rate?
	If we're doing comparisons, that's a completely different conversation.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	If we're doing comparisons with other, like, like female celebrities, like Angelia Jolie, that's different.
	I honestly think that I am an eight.
	I'm not ugly.
	My body's tight.
	I work.
	Based on what?
	What do you mean?
	Based on my body and everything.
	Like the average woman in America.
	I think I am an eight.
	I'm not being delusional.
	I think you're a 10.
	I think you're a 10.
	I think we all understand our girls.
	I understand.
	I don't think I'm hitting anything.
	I'm just going to ask you.
	What are the things that make you an eight?
	I think that because I don't have fake lips, I well, the only thing that's going to come me is like my nails, but my makeup looks nice.
	I look nice when I'm natural.
	My lashes.
	I work out a lot, so I keep my body nice and fit.
	Like, I'm healthy.
	Your hair is beautiful.
	Hey, you know what?
	That's totally fair.
	So now let me ask you this, since you're going off of kind of this objective standard, I think that you're trying to move towards something which is objective.
	Is there any woman in this room who's prettier than you?
	You want my honest opinion?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	And now let me ask back to the blonde.
	Is she prettier than you?
	I do believe she has more of an exotic beauty that I think is.
	Then why aren't you a nine?
	Got him.
	Wait, wait, am I not a nine?
	What?
	She's an eight.
	She's prettier than you.
	She rated herself an eight.
	How come you're not a nine?
	I said, no, I said she's prettier than me.
	I know.
	She rated herself an eight.
	You rated yourself an eight.
	Well, I went first.
	I went first.
	Why am I not a nine?
	Or she's not a nine.
	How come she's not a nine and you're an eight?
	But I thought it was just our own personal health.
	Yeah, I saw it.
	That's a little man with the eight.
	You can't really.
	I see what you're doing, but it doesn't really work.
	If you compare me to Megan Good, obviously, Megan Good.
	No, no, it does really work.
	No, because she went first.
	Yeah, I went first.
	Why are you going to comparing her?
	She thinks she's the prettiest woman in the room.
	Was it one of her?
	And yet, all of you rate yourself the same way that she rates herself.
	So, yeah, she should have gone.
	Aren't all of you essentially saying that you believe that you're on par with her?
	No.
	We weren't comparing each other to each other.
	We were just looking at it from.
	I was looking at it myself compared to the average woman in America.
	That's honestly what I did.
	The average woman in my life.
	I think we all had different scales.
	That's the problem.
	I'm not myself compared to myself.
	You know what I mean?
	Okay, so exactly.
	Would I date myself or would I not date myself?
	Because I'm not lesbian.
	I'm doing another person.
	I don't really care about the average.
	So now let's try just a quick social experiment.
	Hang on.
	Let's just try a quick social experiment.
	We know that this gal, I'm sorry, I don't remember your name in the yellow top.
	Oh, Kishwan.
	What's that?
	Kishwan.
	Okay, so I'm just going to call you Kay because that's a very long name.
	So since Kay says she's the prettiest girl in the room, will anybody raise their hand and say they're prettier than Kay?
	You're prettier than Kay.
	And you're prettier than Kay.
	Okay.
	So is Kay delusional?
	I feel like I'm equal.
	Am I equal?
	Yeah.
	And can I say that I'm a 10 or 11 or 12 or 100?
	And they're such different.
	I mean, at least they're not.
	I know we all are the same.
	Why do we have to compare?
	But the thing is, we can have one man stand in the room and think that she's prettier.
	But then we have another man can be like, no, I'm prettier.
	I mean, it doesn't matter if it's either matter of taste.
	It doesn't matter.
	Let's try this one at a time.
	So the two gals raise their hand first in the center, right?
	The Pentecostal.
	Pentecostal.
	What makes you prettier?
	What makes you prettier than Kay?
	I just, I feel like I'm a prettier Latina vibe, but that's just, I don't know.
	I'm going based off my standard of.
	Objectively, what are the things that you think make you prettier than Kay?
	Like, honestly.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I'm going based off what I like about myself.
	Okay, I like my hair.
	My hair is not a good thing.
	I know that dude has a more, maybe he has a more muscular body, or maybe he has better facial features, or maybe he has this or that, because I'm not delusional, right?
	So what are the things objectively that make you prettier than Kay?
	Well, I personally like my hair.
	My smile.
	I would say my boobs, but no, that's kind of like superficial.
	Actually, you have a nice smile too, sis.
	I don't know.
	We're going on.
	They're just beautiful.
	We can't do it.
	That's kind of the discrete hair.
	Wait, what?
	What is there to even be offended about?
	If you objectively believe that there's a standard that most men, hang on, that most men would adhere to.
	Not every man, just most.
	Then what are those objective things that make you prettier than Kay?
	You can say whatever.
	I don't care.
	No, I know.
	I think, okay, so if we're talking about like biologically, isn't like the whole symmetrical thing, like a thing, like with the face?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think that that would be a good objective, like starting point.
	I mean, she does have it too, though.
	I feel like we just both got it going on.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You don't know?
	Yeah, how about you tell us?
	Since you're the man.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You raised your hand.
	Okay, I told you my hair, I have like the smile, Latina vibe.
	I like my nails.
	I mean, she is more fit than me, but I don't know.
	I just think that it's also a part of it that I have to now.
	I naturally want to, I guess, be delusional and tell myself I am prettier and not in like a degrading way, but it's just how I carry myself.
	I want to be confident.
	I am confident.
	So I just walk in to the room.
	He seems pretty confident.
	Yeah, and again, but at the end of the day, we can have.
	She was so confident she said she was prettier than all of you.
	And that may be.
	She's pretty confident.
	This is like the only thing where I'm like, this is kind of like the only thing where I'm like, there might be like some my truth.
	Because at the end of the day, there's going to be two men that will think differently.
	Like there's going to be someone that really.
	No, no, no.
	But remember the heart of this.
	We're just asking this.
	Did most men.
	I'm not saying that if you didn't have two men, they wouldn't objectively maybe have a different standard.
	I would agree.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I'm asking if you took most men, most.
	So we're just looking for, you know, let's say we took 51% of all men and we were able to pull them and we put the two of you side by side, right?
	And just most of them thought that you were prettier.
	What would those reasons be?
	I just told you.
	Like, I guess my hair, my smile, I guess my eyes.
	I don't know.
	I'm just thinking of things that my boyfriend really has told me or like compliment me.
	Thank you.
	Your overall figure, you know, my overall figure.
	I mean, there's just different.
	Back to Kay.
	So then, hang on, back to Kay.
	What makes you prettier?
	I'm physically fit.
	That's literally.
	Oh, and my lips are big, but they're natural.
	Like, I have to.
	Now, that's like, I think that those are some good responses, right?
	Here are the actual things that I think that make me objectively where most men would look at the two of us and think I'm prettier.
	That seems reasonable.
	I'm super fit.
	I have better lips.
	I have this.
	So, like, that seems reasonable to me.
	I think that that's how men would make the judgment across the board.
	So, then back to you.
	But you're saying that what I said wasn't reasonable?
	Just I'm getting it right.
	Yeah, because you were saying things like you were kind of adding these other values, like confidence, things like that.
	No, no, I'm saying purely on beauty here.
	I'm not, I didn't, I didn't say that my confidence is what makes me prettier.
	What I'm saying is I'm naturally thinking I am prettier because it helps with my confidence wherever I go, whatever, whatever.
	Yeah, I get it.
	But what would the objective standard?
	I told you most of those men, my long hair, my smile, my eyes, and my nails, my fashion.
	I don't know.
	I could go on, but again, I could still look at her and be like, dude, she's just as bomb.
	But in my head, I got to.
	Listen, listen, I'm not saying you couldn't look at her and say she's a knockout or whatever.
	That's not really what the question is implying.
	Yeah.
	So then over to Red.
	Red, can I ask you, what are these things that if you took the large swath of men and they had you and they had K in the same room and they were just asked the question to objectively evaluate the beauty standard of which they prefer, what are the things about you they think they would prefer over K?
	Well, it would depend on their beauty standards.
	Yeah, I know.
	We're just saying that most of them somehow prefer you over Kay.
	I think that I look good as a blonde.
	I look good as a brunette.
	I can change like an iguana.
	I'm wearing blue eyes today.
	I look good in brown eyes.
	I look good in blue eyes.
	I can change my clothes and wear a trash bag and I look good in that.
	And I can wear it.
	Okay, okay, hang on, hang on.
	Let me back up.
	Let me back up.
	So we have a room with 500 men.
	So no matter what.
	400 of them.
	Hang on.
	And 400 of those men, when they look at you next to Kay, they go, I prefer her.
	They don't care about your personality because they don't know anything.
	They know nothing about you.
	They're only judging physically.
	Hang on.
	What are the things about you physically that they prefer?
	My breasts are natural.
	Double D's.
	I have a thin waist.
	A pretty little belly button ring.
	I have nice lips and big brown eyes.
	And I'm Sicilian.
	And I have a little butt that I work hard on at the gym for, but I don't look like her, but I try as hard as I can.
	I love you.
	Like, I love her.
	This is why we consider the question when most of the people answer it.
	Most of the gals answer it to be cope, right?
	When they all rate themselves the same.
	Because when I get to the heart of it, I realize, wait a second, they don't really fucking rate themselves the same.
	What happens is they have kind of group thing where you don't want to offend the girl next to you.
	That's true.
	But objectively, hang on, hang on.
	Hang on, let me finish.
	But objectively, when I start actually parsing it out and I go, but if men did prefer you, why would it be?
	Versus why they prefer you and are you the prettiest girl in the room?
	I hear wildly different answers, which tells me you're not really delusional.
	You do know what your standard appeal is, but you're fucking lying about it because you don't want to make anybody uncomfortable.
	Because everybody has a different standard.
	When one guy can walk in the room and say, I'm hideous, it's like you could love peaches, but there's always going to be one guy that doesn't like peaches.
	I agree.
	Yeah, so hang on, I agree.
	But let's assume for a second that we drug a meth head in who had no teeth, pock marks all over her face, and a hunch back.
	Do you think you're prettier than her objectively?
	I'm 100,010%, but uh.
	Yeah, 100,010%.
	So there has to be some objective.
	Hang on.
	So there has to be some objective standard between meth head, crackhead, hump on her back, pock marks on her face, and you.
	And what we're looking for is what those things are between you and all the other women comparing yourself to no teeth, hunchback, pockmark, fucking crackhead, right?
	That's the point of the video.
	And you're looking for biological health markers and good genetics.
	That's what you're looking for.
	Sure.
	I don't even know what it is.
	So it's symmetry.
	It's facial symmetry.
	It's clarity in the eyes.
	It's clear skin.
	It's for a woman, it's a particular waist to hip ratio, which is 0.05.
	And I think there's always 0.7.
	If you're looking at all those things objectively, then why do you all have similar answers, even though you look nothing the fuck alive?
	There's always room to improve.
	There's only so many things.
	It just seems delusional to me.
	Well, isn't this one ever perfect?
	And I think because we are looking at it from the relational perspective, not like we're walking across the stage and just getting a number rating.
	We're thinking to ourselves, the men that are in our lives that are coming and speaking to us.
	For example, I hear all day, every day, you're a 10, you're a 12.
	How do I get with you?
	Well, they want to sleep with you.
	They want to have sex with you.
	Exactly.
	They want to have sex with you.
	A man will tell, Kay, I think you're the most beautiful woman in the same sentence as saying you are, even if he has an objectively different.
	Right, exactly.
	Exactly.
	I mean, she knows.
	Look at her.
	She's like, yeah.
	I mean, that's just true, right?
	It is true.
	And so that's the thing of why we can't really even go off of that stuff.
	We just have to go off of...
	Well, it seems like when I press you guys...
	What do you think you are?
	Suddenly your standards drastically change, and you're like, I do objectively have these metrics.
	I do objectively know what's true.
	I do objectively think I'm more fish.
	It's just because there's more to it.
	There's more to the motion.
	There's bigger brown eyes.
	I have these other attractive qualities I think men would like.
	But when asked in a general average, you guys go, well, we're all about the same.
	When clearly you all know that you're not.
	Exactly.
	And that's why we think on our end, that's why we think ourselves.
	I don't think we like to be competitive with each other.
	Yeah, it's just like we're going to be doing that.
	You already said his name.
	All right.
	Moving along.
	I'll say three.
	Moving things along.
	I had a question for you.
	Are you in therapy?
	I'm a therapist.
	Doesn't really answer my question.
	Are you in therapy?
	Ever therapist?
	I spent years in therapy.
	I'm not in it at all.
	Have you ever been I go with the I go with the coaching model.
	So whenever I run into a bump and I can't, but yes, I currently have mentors and coaches.
	That's more how I do it these days.
	Yeah, I always have a mentor and I always have coaches.
	Have you been diagnosed with?
	I am a savant, so I have high-functioning autism.
	I'm autistic.
	Oh, sweet.
	Me too.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Hey, welcome to the club.
	Hence, some of my oddness and my outside-of-the-box thinking.
	Do you take any medications?
	I don't know why I'm asking.
	Do you take any medications?
	I use, I use psychotropics or antidepressants or anything like that?
	I just use, I do an edible.
	So a sativa gummy once a day is my typical thing.
	Sure.
	Do you consider yourself traditional?
	In what way?
	Like in a political way, in a sexual way, in a, what way?
	In a general sort of.
	Are you traditional?
	I mean, dating.
	You got to know me.
	I don't think there's really much traditional about me other than human design.
	I do believe in human design.
	I love that.
	That's not really what I had in mind.
	Well, I'm speaking of more how we were created to be.
	I do reverence that.
	Sure.
	We do have, don't play the video yet, Nick, but we do have another video.
	Read it?
	What do you mean?
	Okay, sorry, you want me to pull it up, right?
	Hold up.
	We're not going to play it.
	Could you hide, Andrew, for a sec?
	So, your path.
	Could you read the top there?
	Yeah, so your path to heaven involves you letting hell run through your body without resistance while giving that weary body a voice to describe how it feels and what it's upset about.
	We have been taught to do different things in order to flow with and celebrate the more.
	I just want to pause here really quick.
	So you say your path to heaven involves you letting hell run through your body.
	Meaning your traumatic, your hard emotions and those triggers that are triggering your deepest traumas.
	Your path to your best life, in my opinion, is through allowing those traumas, the emotional experience of the traumas to go through your body and to exit.
	Most of us resist because we're so afraid of actually facing the anguish and facing the grief and facing all these things.
	And so we hold it in our body and it gets stuck there.
	Okay, but so in terms of actual pull it keep it up back, Nick.
	Your path to heaven involves letting hell run through your body.
	So I mean, are you saying like when you say hell, is that like your behaviors?
	I mean that it is your like it's your pain.
	Could this be rephrased in the in this way?
	Your path to Christ involves letting Satan run through your body.
	No, I would say your path to your best life, your path to your ability to consciously manifest the life that you would love to live is by allowing all of your traumas and everything to be alchemized in a sense.
	So you have to face it.
	Yeah, so in any case.
	Transformation.
	It's a path to transformation.
	We're not going to play the video, but I guess you're like twerking in the video.
	So is that a path to heaven?
	So I am showing an example of how you move traumatic energy through your body.
	Women have a lot of rigidity around here because we have a lot of sexual traumas and we have a lot of shame and everything attached to these parts of our bodies.
	So like the African cultures and the Hawaiian culture with the belly dancing, those women are much more healthy emotionally, sexually.
	Their pelvic floor is in a lot better shape because they bring these dance twerk and all of this into their day-to-day life.
	And it's like their prayer.
	It's like their meditation.
	It's their way that we let all of the atrocities of life run through us instead of getting all trapped right here and we have a tummy ache and twerking is good for society.
	Yes, I do.
	Very dancing and dancing in general.
	Yes, dancing in general.
	It's very good.
	I think it's working out.
	I think stiff.
	I started out like stiff order.
	Like order is good for society.
	Just speaking orderly.
	Well, that's the masculine.
	Chest out.
	There you go.
	We like that from men.
	But for women, rigidity and fun.
	Good for society.
	Okay.
	High blood pressure.
	Is there another Instagram post, Nick?
	Oh, we can go to mine.
	I think it's a good one.
	Why are we only doing my Instagram?
	My sister.
	You don't look like you come up with a solutions for you.
	Is that like a filter?
	This is just like one of those no-filter filters, no makes it.
	Just play it, play it.
	Woke up in the morning.
	Oh.
	And audio.
	Just so fucking cool.
	I literally found a way to change the societal structure, bring in traditions, and kind of a new rhythm to the way that we do things in the world that is essentially the hack to ascension.
	So, what all the spiritual gurus, the scientists, what everybody's trying to do is reach the top to ascend to the highest possible potential for themselves.
	They're trying to create that in their industries and things like this.
	And what I have done is I have been formulated, formulating the social structures and the changes that we need to make as a society over the next couple hundred years.
	Wow.
	Maybe less, probably less.
	But I know how to get us all to ascend kind of accidentally.
	Guys, this is.
	When did you get into New Age?
	Was that for Nick?
	Was that for videos?
	I'm pretty sure.
	I'm not sure what you mean by new age.
	There was something else, too.
	Was there another Instagram tab?
	Oh, this is for you.
	This is actually maybe related to the rating.
	It's like the bikini photo or whatever.
	Oh, me.
	Yeah, for you.
	Oh, good.
	D-E-E-A-L-E-S-S-A-N-D-R-A.
	Did you fuckers?
	Oh, what the fuck?
	I didn't know that.
	You got it, Nick?
	Wait, what did you want?
	It should be one of the Instagram tabs.
	Yeah, which one?
	It's the bikini photo.
	I was just wondering.
	It's related to the rating stuff.
	What did you rate yourself again?
	8?
	8.5 or something?
	Do you have plastic surgery?
	I have my nose out.
	You have your nose?
	What about breasts?
	Nah, I was a triple D, but I lost 12 pounds, so now I'm a double D.
	Okay.
	If you look at the other photo, did you Photoshop here?
	Did you see it?
	No, if you click it, you can see that I'm pushing my ass out.
	Like if you click on it.
	Well, I don't know what's on that next page.
	No, it's just in my bathing suit.
	It's in the same.
	But don't here, you look at it first, Nick.
	It's the same thing.
	Yeah, I think it's okay.
	I'm just turned around.
	You see it right here in the phone?
	Looks good.
	It's just a bathing suit.
	It's not in the same bikini.
	No, we don't need to pull it up.
	But you didn't Photoshop?
	Like, you didn't suck in the waist?
	I'm going to line this.
	No, you don't need to like this.
	No, but.
	Okay.
	That's Photoshop, though, right?
	A little bit.
	Like, you don't use it.
	I mean, I know.
	I changed the filters of the sun.
	It made everything bluer and brighter.
	Looks a little bit.
	No, I know.
	I'm too cheap for face tunes.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Now, wait.
	I think.
	I don't know if this was in the.
	And if you look at all the pictures on the so you wrote in the dancing one, you said it turns out shaking ass is the final stage of healing.
	I can testify to that.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, there was one that had also you wrote, I can't, I, there's so many posts.
	There's so much on there to rip apart.
	Just go look on your free time.
	You said meme drop while I process the rage finally coming out of my body towards the atrocities of white man in the name of God.
	Oh no.
	Edwin, you want to read that one?
	You want to read that one?
	I don't remember which one it was from, but you do, you do.
	It was a recent one.
	I'm trying to think what the first picture would have been.
	Well, I don't care.
	We don't need to find it, but you did write.
	While I process the rage finally coming out of my body towards the atrocities of white man, in the name of God.
	So I'm a little confused by the white man component.
	I'm confused.
	I'm speaking to white supremacy, essentially, and the whole slavery thing and all of that.
	Well, I'm confused about this.
	Why is there a photo of you, and forgive me if I'm incorrect and this is not you, but I think it is with jizz all over your face.
	And you say that moment you realize you're not mentally ill, but just in another toxic relationship?
	I just like to play at things.
	It was a come shot to the face.
	I love facials.
	It's my jam.
	Yeah, so you have to do it.
	You have man's jizz all over your face, and you say that.
	It was my husband at the time.
	It was his jam.
	Dan, you say the moment you realize you're not mentally ill, but in another toxic relationship, wouldn't that mean that you were trying to seek toxic relationships?
	Because you look rather happy and satisfied in this photo, I must admit.
	Well, the sex was good doesn't mean the relationship was healthy.
	He was a covert narcissist.
	So you only realized it after he jizzed all over your face?
	Yeah, unfortunately, some of these guys are real sneaky.
	Is the post not clarity?
	I mean, should you not do that there, man?
	For both?
	Exactly.
	I didn't know how bad it was going to go, you know, on that stage.
	Behind closed doors of yours.
	That man was the best at marketing.
	He did such a good job.
	I'll tell you that.
	He ran every fucking game there was.
	Going for all the, but I thought you were spiritually enlightened.
	What are you going for?
	All these toxic men who are jizzing all over your face.
	You only realize after you have come, they're come all over your face.
	That was my husband.
	That's so weird.
	We were married.
	That was our sex life.
	He was my guy for OnlyFans.
	We did it together.
	I don't know what the concept is.
	You guys think that I'm just sleeping with all these random guys?
	It was literally my husband.
	No, I'm not.
	It was my husband at the time.
	We did OnlyFans together.
	That's how I started.
	It was my husband.
	Actually, married to, right?
	I mean, we had a wedding.
	I had the ring, the whole thing.
	I even got the tattoo.
	We had the ceremony.
	We had the reception.
	We had the minister.
	The whole thing.
	We just didn't sign it legally.
	Yeah, so I'll just even assume that that's a marriage.
	But you say, so he was toxic?
	He ended up being abusive.
	I think he had a closet drink.
	When he was jizzing on your face and you were taking pictures, was he toxic?
	Obviously, the man was who he was the whole time, but I wasn't aware.
	He really ran to me.
	Yeah, no, but why did you post a picture saying he was toxic if you weren't aware?
	Okay.
	We made that content when we were together, and I didn't know his true colors yet.
	We made that content.
	I already had that content from probably a year before.
	Then when I left the man, I was trying to work through my process of not sinking into this doom and gloom.
	And that's what I, my artistic process.
	That's just what I threw up there.
	What date did you release that photo then?
	I mean, it says it on there.
	I don't have it on memory.
	Look back at the, it would have a date stamp on it.
	Yeah, I know.
	So what date did you release it?
	Was it before or after you found out he was toxic?
	It was after I left.
	I was already, I already left him by the time.
	You didn't release that photo before then?
	On my OnlyFans, we had stuff like that, but it wouldn't have had that caption.
	And actually, that photo was taken after a video that we made together.
	And then we did a come shot on the face and we took photos of it.
	And it was then, on your back, after you had made your OnlyFans content with this man's sperm all over your face that you realized he's toxic.
	No, it was when he beat me.
	But you did.
	Yeah, but then why did you say in the photo that that was the moment you realized he was toxic?
	It was just a satire.
	It was an artistic expression.
	So you made it the fuck up.
	That was my way of turning a really difficult situation into some sort of a artistic experience.
	You made it up, right?
	Made it up.
	You made it up because you just wanted to put it out there, get some clicks and views, but it was made up, right?
	That was not actually the moment you realized he was toxic.
	You just made it the fuck up, right?
	You should have an app of your own.
	And when I'm like feeling sad, I could ask you a question.
	You could just tell me the blame honest truth.
	And I can just laugh and like, what?
	Feel better.
	Feel better.
	Because you say everything so honestly and so articulately.
	And like, it's so honest and like raw and real, but it's so funny at the same time.
	I love it.
	That is true.
	But you are correct.
	You are correct.
	It should be funny, raw, and it's a good idea.
	You are correct.
	That was not the exact moment that I realized how toxic was.
	That was the exact moment I realized we just made some super awesome content.
	Wasn't that sexy?
	I did a whole prostitute scene.
	I was the prostitute.
	That was the moment that I realized I was in a toxic relationship.
	It was just showing a picture of something that had happened in the past.
	That was sexy.
	So I was killing like five birds with one stone.
	I was making light of a hard situation.
	I was bringing in a sexy piece of clickbait to make money.
	I'll pull up the note.
	Quote: Yes, that was when I realized I was in a toxic relationship.
	Your exact words.
	I'm not really sure.
	You got me.
	You got me.
	I did the cum shot and had a fun time, and then it was like a few months later that the guy beat me, and I was like, oh, shit.
	Let me move it on.
	I'm moving it on.
	I did have you and me before the show, well, not before the show, in the messages we were exchanging.
	Not something I've really, well, I've maybe encountered somewhat similar to this, but so I requ I had, and you don't mind if we get meta?
	If we what?
	Get meta.
	Like a conversation about the conversation, kind of.
	Oh, that's fine, yeah.
	Okay.
	So prior to the show, what we do with anybody who requests to be on the show, who sends us a DM, we send them a list of 10 questions.
	And I sent you a list of 10 questions asking age, location, occupation, relationship status, if you wanted to bring a friend, any dating stories, any dating topics you'd want to speak on, anything you disagree on, if you can make it to Santa Barbara, and your available dates to be on the show.
	10 questions.
	Most people answer it without issue.
	They take about five, ten minutes to answer it.
	Done and done.
	You did freak out on me a little bit in the DMs, and I just wanted to, I don't know if.
	I don't know if so I wanted to pull I wanted to pull them up and perhaps you can read them just so I can better understand the tone because Because maybe I'm being charitable here, but there was an interesting tone to it.
	So maybe in your own words, it might come off.
	Can you, like, it sounded cocky?
	Well, we'll just pull it up, Nick, if you can pull it up for us.
	Delusional.
	Oh, shoot.
	So, Nick, why don't you can you put us in the left corner?
	Could you read that, read these for us?
	Yeah, so I'm sorry, I'm very high-functioning autistic, so sometimes my brain gets on my tangents, and I can't really focus on anything else.
	Let me see if I can get it done right now while I have a minute.
	It's weird you guys are so meticulous about this.
	Like, why can't you just schedule me to come shoot this shit with you?
	You obviously know I'm legit and have tons of things to talk about, no matter how you want to lead the conversation.
	I feel like that is why you are not leveling up.
	You are being too legalistic about things, and you need to learn how to read vibration over words and rules of the manifested or visual reality.
	To be honest with you, okay, I was on a mission.
	Yes, just keep reading, go ahead.
	FYI.
	To be honest with you, it's annoying to me.
	You would make a woman like me go down a list and answer certain questions.
	I'm above needing to answer your certain questions.
	Just book me on your fucking show and let's go.
	I'm really only looking to work with or give energy to people who are totally in alignment with me.
	And if that includes you, then you are not going to waste my time making me answer some little stupid baby bitch list of questions that is made for other people who are clueless.
	You would be able to read my vibration and know that I'm in that I'm exempt from all this shit.
	And if you can't do that, then I don't really want on your show.
	Now do I?
	Wow.
	Okay, I'm a spiritual person.
	I have my own spiritual business and I read energy and all of this.
	But like, I mean, I'm sorry, that was just a mean message.
	Oh, folks, I don't know why Tate came in.
	Go ahead.
	That is just, I don't know.
	That is pretty crazy.
	Well, I understand.
	I totally understand.
	You got to speak into the mic, first of all.
	I totally understand that it sounded very harsh, but you have to understand how many DMs I get, how much I get approached.
	But hold on.
	You know, I know.
	Correct.
	Correct.
	I think most of you here every single.
	Well, maybe.
	I'm not sure.
	I think most of you reached out to us.
	You all got the same questionnaire.
	You all filled it out without any quarrel or issue.
	It's your show.
	And that's not what I'm doing.
	And it took you one day.
	How long did it take you?
	Five minutes.
	Not even five.
	How long did it take two minutes?
	I think you'd have to take it.
	It's like one minute.
	Oh, like three hours.
	Well, you sent a fuck ton of stuff.
	She sent a story.
	I would have been like that.
	I would have been like that.
	I have a fetish place.
	That wall of text that you sent me.
	I just assumed you wouldn't have me on it.
	Well, the wall of text that you sent me, you could have just been a good sport and answer.
	The same time it took you to send that wall of text.
	I guess because I am not, again, I am not a typically presented woman.
	And so I try to make it very clear.
	You're not dealing with a typical person.
	Are you sure you want to engage with me?
	Because you think you're better than me.
	No, I think I'm very different.
	And it's not for everybody.
	So I kind of just come off harsh.
	And just so you know, I knew nothing about this podcast.
	Why are you saying he's not growing?
	I didn't know who he was.
	I didn't know anything.
	How can you say that free marketing if you don't know who you are?
	I know you don't understand.
	So whatever podcast is.
	I made it clear.
	I was on a savant four points.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Guys, guys, guys, hang on.
	It doesn't work like yours.
	We can only do one at a time.
	I did want to lead in just very quickly.
	Is it Desiree?
	Is that?
	Yeah, Desiree.
	Desiree.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Why do you have pictures of wait, wait, Andrew, hold on, hold on.
	Before you said what you're going to say, it's, it's.
	I have to cut in on that.
	I have to.
	I have to.
	No, but can you.
	The leveling up things.
	You have to get this.
	This is super important because I got to know.
	But is it okay?
	My brain gets very annoying.
	Wait, wait, stop.
	Andrews, Andrew, stop, I got to make sure this is TOS.
	It's DOS.
	Why do you have pictures of the kids in the same Instagram?
	Wait, say it more tactfully.
	Say it more tactfully, please.
	Okay, why do you have pictures of your offspring in the same Instagram that you have these lewd pictures?
	Because I don't believe that human sexuality is anything to, it's not wrong in my book.
	There's nothing wrong with it.
	I celebrate sex and all the different forms and expressions of it.
	And that's not anything I personally believe is to now.
	It's not like my kids are in the room when I'm getting cum shot on or anything.
	Would you want to see pictures of your kids?
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	It wouldn't bother me.
	It's human sexuality.
	don't want to talk about this.
	This is very, that's fair.
	This is on the fucking line.
	It is a boring.
	I'm not sure it is, but it's your show.
	I'll yield.
	But listen, lewds in the same way.
	In the same Instagram as that, doesn't that seem horrifically offwarding?
	I don't ascribe to the same moral code that you do.
	I don't believe that there is anything wrong with however an adult person wants to express themselves sexually.
	And I would even go as far as to say, adult doesn't even mean 18.
	To me, a person.
	Okay, don't even start.
	Don't even start going down that path.
	All right, fine.
	Let's go there.
	I'm going to mute the mic.
	But I did want an answer to that.
	That's crazy that I'm going to say.
	I should answer it, but I don't think that there's anything wrong with it.
	I don't have your same morals.
	So kind of, I'm not going to really, I want to go back to the meta conversation we were having about the messages you sent.
	I was just a little confused there.
	I don't know.
	You mentioned that very early on in the episode, you wanted to bring down the egos of men.
	I mean, don't you think the message you sent me is a bit egotistical?
	Very full of yourself.
	It was.
	And I was really, to be honest with you, I am working on some massive humanitarian work right now that to me is the most important thing.
	So I had a friend.
	It's just because of the way that my brain works, when I get on a mission, you could say, that's all I really care about.
	I thought your mission was to sell your pussy.
	Okay, hold on.
	Is this what's called obfuscating?
	Hold on, let me make sure I'm using this.
	I want to know why you thought that his.
	I didn't know him.
	I didn't know who I was.
	Why would you say it?
	I had no idea.
	That's I flow with it.
	I just spoke my truth.
	That's how I felt in the moment.
	It's not really in the reality.
	You're humanitarian.
	I just assumed they're not going to call me on the show, to be honest.
	I just thought I'm annoyed right now.
	I'm busy doing this other work.
	I got a million things going on.
	Why are they having me answer these questions?
	I'm a sex and relationship code.
	It's a dating show.
	Do they want me on or not?
	I don't want everyone in the world to yield to you for every single thing.
	No, I'm just simply saying if I'm not for you, I'm not sure.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I'm not going to say that.
	I feel very tired of being a people pleaser.
	And I just don't want to do it anymore.
	I don't need everybody to like me.
	I don't need everybody to have me on their show.
	If you want to say it's narcissism, I'm okay with that.
	Probably.
	But mean.
	It's fine.
	But I don't mind being mean.
	I get people mean to me all the time.
	but it's just like i've and out of and it wasn't the reason It wasn't.
	It wasn't.
	I didn't even know what it was going on.
	I didn't know.
	I wasn't upset.
	I was just like, I've maybe encountered, and we've had probably thousands.
	We've had thousands.
	We've had over a thousand people on the show.
	We've had probably multiple thousands of people send us DMs.
	Obviously, not everybody ends up scheduling.
	We don't always opt to schedule somebody.
	But I think I've had maybe one or two other women be divas over the whole, oh my God, it's 10 questions.
	It's so weird to me.
	It's just, it was very diva-like.
	It's just because, again, I was on a mission mentally, and it was like, have me on or don't have me on.
	I don't want to answer all these questions.
	But you spend so much time.
	You're from Los Angeles, right?
	But to me, that wasn't a lot of energy because that's the truth.
	Answer my question.
	You're from LA, right?
	No.
	Los Angeles.
	Well, you said you're from San Bernardino.
	That's L.A. County, isn't it?
	No, it's San Fernando County.
	And then Corona is Riverside.
	Did you ever have any ambitions to be an actress?
	I mean, I did drama when I was a kid.
	Have you ever been to a casting call?
	Yeah, when I was a kid.
	Have you ever gone on a job interview?
	Yes.
	Did they require a resume?
	Depends on the job.
	Have you ever applied for a job that required a cover letter or a resume or a CV?
	Well, wait.
	Isn't that the same thing as a?
	Well, okay.
	Well.
	Have you ever said that?
	but this was not a job this was something this is a gig but But I didn't see it as a gig until you guys actually scheduled me.
	That was me showing you my personality.
	You can take it or leave it.
	You don't have to schedule me.
	But you're confused as to why we would ask these questions.
	So we asked very basically it's not that I was confused.
	It was that was me popping off because I felt that answering a cookie cutter list of questions to a person like me who's extremely complex.
	So no matter how I answer these, that's not the full truth.
	I guess if you just want me to bullshit for the sake of bullshitting, and I just want to straighten your questions.
	Basic bioinfo, age, location, occupation, relationship sounds.
	If you want to bring a friend, dating stories, dating topics, anything you disagree on, if you can make it to Santa Barbara and your available dates, I mean, those last two kind of necessary questions.
	I said that, but I said, and then as we went down on communication, I gave you my, obviously I'm here.
	Well, yeah.
	Obviously, it worked out enough.
	But so you said, you told me I need to learn how to read vibration.
	I was saying it to you.
	I didn't even know what I was doing.
	You said you.
	I was venting to Instagram DM.
	I didn't know a face.
	I've never even seen the podcast.
	I have no idea.
	Fine.
	You have to understand how many dicks I talk to a day.
	I talk to so many assholes a day.
	I literally, I have to do business constantly.
	All day I deal with agencies.
	I deal with booking this, booking that.
	What do you think?
	You're like that over here.
	Everything else is just weird.
	Well, because you guys have no idea what I actually have to deal with.
	You have no idea what they have to do.
	I don't know.
	I only reached out because a friend said you shouldn't go on this topic.
	Again, I've never seen it.
	I didn't know anything about it.
	And so I wasn't really taking it.
	Did you realize that he had?
	There's a difference between not taking it serious and being disrespectful, though.
	I didn't give a shit about who I disrespected.
	Where do you care if I disrespect you?
	You don't even know me.
	You don't even like me.
	Because he's a human.
	I understand it.
	I understand.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	But I'm not here to get you.
	Where do you get your moral compass from?
	I don't go by morals.
	Just integrity.
	I don't go by morals.
	I go by, that was the mood I was in.
	I gave you my real self.
	That's the problem with people that don't have a foundation.
	Would you rather me pretend like I was a cookie cutter little sweet thing and then get on here and be bitch?
	I didn't have to answer that bitch.
	And I like this.
	I told you.
	You're not understanding.
	I am a bitch.
	I'm not going to do that on here.
	I am a bitch, and I'm not for most people.
	So I wanted to make sure that that was clear.
	I just have one last question for you on this particular topic.
	Are you on any sort, because you believe that truth is a value, can you just answer this truthfully?
	Sure.
	Are you on any sort of psychiatric drugs at all?
	Like a pharmaceutical?
	I think that was already asked.
	Yeah, that was our.
	I asked her.
	Oh, you asked me.
	Oh, wait, did I ask you?
	Yeah, you asked me.
	And there she said, Marilyn.
	I don't think I got an actual answer.
	Are you on any sort of SSRI?
	No, I don't know.
	None?
	No.
	Okay.
	Now, Nick, I don't know if you still have the.
	Is it still all set up?
	Okay.
	You also said that, to be honest with you, it's annoying to me.
	You would make a woman like me go down a list and answer certain questions.
	I'm above needing to answer your certain questions.
	That's in the fourth message there.
	Just book me on your fucking show and let's go.
	Now, some of the people who took a locker room talk.
	It's called locker room talk.
	Well, it's interesting because you very harshly criticized me for.
	It wasn't you again.
	Well, no, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Let me finish my point.
	So we had to restart the stream.
	Miss over here, who did a wardrobe change.
	It was really, really, really fun.
	It's fine.
	So there was a nip slip.
	So we had to cut the stream.
	We lost all the viewership.
	We had to restart it.
	We lost about 10 minutes.
	I was frustrated.
	I don't recall precisely what I said to her.
	I might have said something rude to her out of front.
	Shut the fuck up.
	You did.
	Okay.
	It's okay.
	I understand.
	I would have said the same thing.
	I would have said the same thing.
	Now, you got on your high horse and your ivory tower and you got very, you wanted to virtue signal and you almost threatened to leave.
	You threatened to.
	If this is how you're going to talk to women, I'm going to leave and she should come with me.
	She included all of us.
	And you attempted to pretty much get all the women to leave the show.
	Admittedly, I did say something rude to her, which I apologize to you.
	I was frustrated.
	And I liked you because of that.
	I liked your apology.
	But it's interesting to me that your conduct between us in the DMs.
	Okay, I'll explain it.
	Hold on, no, no, no, no, hold on.
	It's interesting to me that it's okay for you to behave in that way.
	You said, I mean, you're because it was non-personal.
	It was non-personal.
	The way in which you were speaking to me was, I would argue, about on par in the way I spoke to her.
	I would say much worse.
	Yeah, way worse.
	Her messages?
	Yeah, I agree.
	I agree.
	The only thing I have to say is that, again, I deal with so many people.
	Who makes you the arbiter?
	Okay, don't worry.
	That I didn't know that you were even a human.
	I don't know who I'm dealing with.
	Well, you think we have an AI?
	I have no idea.
	If it was Nick who was messaging you, I would be sitting here and saying the exact same thing.
	If it was Madison, it does not matter.
	It would have been an agent, a representative of whatever podcast.
	And it is me who handles all the guest booking.
	But it's not me.
	Like, you didn't know who you were messaging it to.
	It's kind of irrelevant.
	It doesn't matter if it was me or Maddie or Nick or if we were both.
	But you have to understand, I deal with people who are not a human representation.
	They're just like a bot basically.
	I don't care, but I find it interesting that you were virtue signaling at the beginning of the show.
	And it's because I could feel her as a human person.
	She wasn't even that bothered.
	So I don't even know if you can't feel their emotions.
	It doesn't matter.
	Yes, because I deal so much in the virtual world and I'm so bullshitted constantly that I'm just fear of nor empathy.
	You have no true empathy.
	No, I actually do and I wasn't even bothered if you turned to her and said you're being abused.
	I ruined his podcast.
	But I truly thought you're sticking up for me, but I also wanted to make sure that we were clear.
	You wanted to make sure that we were Clear that let's not go there with you.
	But you went there before you got again.
	Again, I had no idea who I was speaking to.
	I was out of my house.
	I have the messages.
	No, I know.
	I have the message.
	I was calculatingly being my most aggressive self because I get taken advantage of a lot.
	That's what I'm saying.
	How is it taking advantage of you to ask 10 questions?
	No, I'm just saying.
	No, no, no.
	Answer the question.
	Answer.
	How is it taking advantage of you to ask you 10 biographical questions?
	Maybe because stop, stop, stop.
	Let her answer.
	Go.
	Because I just didn't feel like me answering those simple little questions were going to paint the accurate picture of who you were having on the show.
	But you think there's a reason we asked those questions.
	I do, but I do understand what I'm saying.
	I am not for everybody.
	Do you have a podcast that has to be a question?
	No, I think I do understand what you're saying.
	And let me kind of steal my man in the position.
	You felt like by answering those questions, it would have misrepresented what it was that you were trying to get across, right?
	Correct, correct.
	But the thing is, is that could it perhaps be cope on your behalf?
	It was not the best way to ask.
	Hold on, hang on.
	Let me finish the question, please.
	Could it perhaps be cope on your behalf that you were terrified of answering those questions because you know to a reasonable standard that a person interpreting them may totally get the wrong idea of you even though they're basic questions?
	Well, no, because those were basic questions not on the podcast.
	No, because listen, if you go down the list, it's very easy.
	I'm 38.
	I live in Corona.
	I am technically single.
	Why so much cope?
	Because again, I wanted to really, and I'm not justifying, I did do it very, I could have done it in a more polite way.
	You're right.
	I could have done it in a more polite way.
	But you got every time.
	I was terrified that the answers.
	No, I was terrified.
	I was terrified of this.
	I was terrified that I would come to a situation where this isn't really my completely gaslighting right now.
	Huh?
	Well, no, no, hang on.
	Listen, I'm not going to accuse her of gaslighting.
	I actually do want her answer to the question.
	From my perspective, what it appears to be, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're giving basic answers to the question and kind of the cope, or what I would consider cope, is, you know, I'm afraid that you're going to get the wrong picture of me.
	Okay, that's fair.
	Yes.
	There could be a way in which questions are presented where we could get the wrong interpretation.
	It happens to me a lot.
	Hang on, hang on, of who you are as a whole.
	I agree that that's true.
	But doesn't it kind of ratify Brian's position here that in DMs, you were ultimately very, very, very aggressive?
	I was.
	Almost like you're trying to obfuscate from what those questions are.
	It was because I live in a world of sharks.
	And I just sometimes I'm in a mood.
	I'm dealing with freaking law cases and all these things.
	And judge me however you want to judge me.
	It's fine.
	Law cases?
	With the ex-husband, he beat me.
	I have to press charges and the whole situation.
	Yeah, but why did that have anything to do with a podcast?
	I'm not saying I'm a victim.
	I'm just saying, as a human being, some days I get a little rattled.
	So why couldn't you extend that same courtesy to me when I was a little sharp with her?
	Instead, you wanted to put your foot down, be the language police.
	I honestly, I feel safe.
	I was about to go over there and just.
	Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?
	I was gonna go over there and just.
	No, it's emotional safety.
	I didn't feel emotionally safe.
	What the fuck does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	Emotionally.
	These are buzzwords just to get out of taking responsibility.
	It gave her the issue.
	But I mean, honestly, I want to.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess that's a good way to say it.
	You say to Brian, when you say to Brian, answering your question doesn't make me feel emotionally safe.
	No, no, no.
	When he said fuck, when he had the comment to her, that's when I didn't feel emotionally safe.
	When he said fuck, and I engaged, and I, you know, as you described it, I was virtue signaling, you said.
	It's because it triggered me to be like, oh shit, this is what I was afraid of.
	I'm not safe here.
	That's why I tried to give them the most bitch, ridiculous part of myself, so I didn't even have to go.
	Hang on, you mean at the beginning of the podcast, when I pointed out there could be something which was potentially detrimental to everything that this man has worked for, and so he was frustrated in the moment, and maybe he said something out of turn or untowards.
	But if I remember correctly, and I was in the back room listening, you know, I do do that.
	The gal who this was directed to said, no big deal.
	Who are you to come in and advocate on her behalf and say, wait, she's way in the wrong, right?
	Or this type of thing.
	That's not really your concern.
	Who are you to come in and say and make this arbitrary judgment that a person who says something in frustration in regards to their entirety of their livelihood, which could be at stake, that they're in the wrong when the person they said it to was forgiving instantly?
	Can you explain that to me?
	Yeah.
	I do appreciate her sticking up for me, but I do 100%.
	And I think that that's totally appropriate.
	I think that's totally appropriate.
	And I did understand.
	The moment she said, hang on.
	She said, no worries.
	I'm not even concerned about it.
	You, on the other hand, made a big deal out of it.
	Because I'm the person that all these women come to for help after days or however.
	Who are you to do that?
	Who are you to do that?
	I'm sorry.
	It's just where I'm at in life.
	I know what I do, and I deal with the traumas.
	Everybody comes and brings me all the traumas that they never had restitution for.
	And it seems like that she might say it's okay.
	She's going to fawn.
	She's going to fawn in the moment.
	She's not weak.
	She's not weak.
	You're saying she's weak.
	I'm not saying that.
	I'm simply saying entire and self-aware and just saying, let's move on.
	And as you saw, as you saw, we were all able to kind of work through it.
	We were apologizing.
	We took it down a notch.
	But we took it down a notch.
	I was friendly with you.
	I said I appreciate you.
	Hang on.
	You're fibbing.
	And here I can prove it.
	You said behind the scenes that you wanted revenge, that you wanted to get some Gitzy backsies, and that Brian didn't know who he was fucking with.
	That's what you actually said behind the scenes.
	Isn't that true?
	Yes.
	Yeah, that is true.
	Yes.
	Do you want to hear the recording?
	Because I recorded it.
	I mean, you literally stood there and were literally.
	Hang on.
	You said he deserves some revenge, some restitution, and that you're going to be able to do that.
	I didn't know the guy yet.
	I didn't know he did.
	I didn't know the guy yet.
	It's a woman being triggered.
	You have to understand.
	I have been abused a lot.
	So there's so much.
	But did I abuse you?
	No, but no, but I'm just going to.
	Did I abuse you?
	She turned to her and was like, This is abuse.
	But well, it was just abuse.
	I mean, that was verbal.
	Going back to what Andrew said, though, what specifically, if you guys can recall, what did she say?
	Well, here, let Andrew help because I'll tell you.
	Because me being in the background, sometimes I hit record and I have all of this recorded.
	We have a time.
	Here's what she actually said.
	She said that you, she ain't going to put up with none of this shit from these motherfuckers.
	Yeah, she does.
	And that they better know their fucking place and that she's going to get revenge if necessary.
	That's what she actually said.
	Am I lying?
	Go ahead, tell me, call me.
	Well, you put a.
	Okay, you have to understand from my perspective.
	Again, I didn't know the man from any of the people.
	Because I'm just going off of my experience in life with men.
	And why include us?
	Like, we can just, we can leave right now.
	I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't.
	I'm sorry.
	I just consider myself, I'm a mother.
	I'm a leader.
	I have daughters.
	But we're strong women.
	We're not weak.
	And I didn't mean it.
	I didn't.
	And I think all of that masculine energy, though, I'm not talking about it.
	No, I take on daddy energy if I feel like there's some vulnerable group here that isn't.
	We're not a whole group.
	Anyone?
	Is it self-aware that it's a whole podcast?
	That if that nitflip was there, it can get back.
	I apologize for having empathy towards women and making sure that we all knew we were in the past.
	What does that feel?
	It's like it's not really an apology.
	I'm sorry.
	So this is a complete and total red herring.
	Can you just speak to the fact that before you even knew the circumstances of the situation, you actually demanded that the girls get up and leave with you in order to get revenge?
	That's what you actually requested.
	Can you just tell Brian that that's what you actually did?
	Look at them shaking their head because I'm right.
	You requested all of them get up and leave that podcast and leave him high and dry to get revenge.
	So why don't you get up and get the fuck out of this podcast since you're the one who demanded that this happen to him?
	Why should we not instead make sure that that happens to you?
	I mean, you definitely can, and you would be in the right.
	And I am sorry, I overreacted.
	I was triggered.
	Okay.
	I didn't know you from anybody.
	I wasn't sure what I was getting myself into.
	And I just never know how things are going to go.
	You lost on even with just random questions.
	No, no, no.
	She's like, she's the guy.
	I got some more questions.
	There's no way.
	I got more questions.
	Wait, do you have some more questions?
	What?
	I do.
	I got a couple more questions.
	Not quite.
	Not quite yet, Andrew, but I like the, what's it called?
	I do like it.
	I just want to let you know.
	I'll tell you this.
	I do appreciate a man who puts me in my place.
	Who were there at the table to get up and walk out of the show in order to get revenge against you because you had a fire-at-the-mouth moment very quickly because everything you had ever worked for perhaps could be in jeopardy.
	And so you had an emotional outburst.
	How dare you?
	She actually tried to convince the entire panel to get up and collectively walk out with her.
	Girls, if I'm lying, tell me I'm lying.
	No, I mean, I told her right away.
	I said, I said, don't include me.
	I was like, I'm not leaving.
	I like respectfully tried to calm her down and be like, okay, let's just stay quiet, figure this shit out.
	And I did.
	No, you can't be at me.
	You literally got on bantering.
	But I need a minute.
	I need a minute.
	Once I get that triggered, I need a minute.
	I said, look, I said the rude thing or whatever.
	Then I was like, okay, time for action.
	Let me end the stream.
	We got to delete it.
	We got to get it all going.
	Everybody's here.
	And you made me feel safe when you came back.
	And the way that you apologized, it felt very genuine.
	And to be honest, it really endeared me to you.
	It really endeared me to you.
	But I came in it kind of with this heart.
	It ain't happening.
	But what about the messages?
	I just can't get very harsh.
	I can't get over that.
	They were very clear, man.
	Wait, wait.
	This could sort of be like a, and I don't know if this is using the Lord's name in pain, but a come to God moment here.
	So now it's very rare.
	Like me and Andrew, we constantly get labeled as toxic and abrasive.
	No, I don't know.
	No, no, no.
	Let me finish my point.
	And typically it's very rare.
	I don't know if it's ever happened like this.
	Now, Andrew took shots at some of the women saying they don't look like Scarlett Johansson.
	I was gone for a bit of that.
	Every woman here has turned against you.
	Yeah.
	Now, I have a question for you.
	Do you frequently find yourself in conflict with people?
	No, to be honest, because I try to kind of weed out my relationships and him.
	Stop the cat.
	You're telling me your life isn't full of constant interpersonal conflict.
	I mean, I'm an entrepreneur.
	I run into changes.
	No, I think I have a peaceful life.
	Even though the whole panel has turned against you.
	And I'm not trying to like.
	Oh, I feel horrible.
	No, this could be a self-awareness moment.
	You know, the whole thing of like with everybody.
	You know, the whole common denominator thing.
	Like, if you think everybody else is the asshole, everybody you meet's a jerk.
	Yeah, yeah, look at your common denominator.
	Or it could just be like I was trying to be, I was trying to weed myself out of this show.
	And why did you reach out to them?
	Because a friend said you should contact this podcast.
	And so I just kind of did it as okay if you just forced it.
	No, no, no.
	It was just like you blessed out.
	This is how I roll.
	It's like if things work out, it works out.
	I don't force it.
	I speak my truth.
	I have moods.
	I'm human.
	I'm woman.
	A kid might have been pulling on me.
	I might have been hangry.
	I don't know.
	That was a big bottle of fucking excuses, man.
	Like, I can't take this shit no more.
	I'm like getting a fucking headache, dude.
	Shut up.
	I'm just not here to be political.
	Shut the fuck up.
	I see why men cheat, honestly.
	With women like that, there's no way.
	Wait, Not all men, but Jesus.
	Oh, man.
	I can't hear you.
	I think we lost.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Wait, this energy got too exciting.
	There's just so many excuses, man.
	It's okay, don't worry about it.
	Am I like the worst person?
	No, no, you're amazing.
	We love you.
	You're good.
	We ruined this.
	No, what are you talking about?
	Everyone's raving about you.
	They hate me.
	I take all they hate.
	I take it all, girl.
	So you don't have to.
	You're already deflecting.
	Take it away.
	No.
	You are the problem.
	It's not you taking the heat.
	Like, that's virtuous.
	No, you are nice.
	We can't.
	Wait, what happened?
	They want to sit for the camera.
	But you have to understand, I'm only the problem in this context.
	No.
	You drop me with my people, and I'm not the problem.
	Okay.
	She can talk you this time.
	Well, you did mention at the beginning that you tend to domineer the conversation.
	So maybe you shouldn't.
	Yeah.
	And you're right.
	You're right.
	Every single time.
	You're right.
	And it's because I'm just.
	This isn't my typical vibe.
	You know?
	I'm in that.
	That's going to be an uncomfortable situation.
	I don't think anyone's going to be.
	It's just always an excuse, though.
	You can't just say, hey, I was wrong.
	Or, hey, yeah, I need to work on that.
	Or hey, yeah, maybe I'm.
	I was right.
	I did.
	I said I was wrong.
	The whole thing.
	But, but there's always a butt.
	I won't give a butt.
	I thought that perhaps it would help him understand.
	I wasn't a person.
	That's all I was trying.
	Yeah, but it's just like it was just that.
	I wasn't trying to say it was polite.
	I was simply because he was maybe taking it.
	Like, I'm not going to be able to do that.
	You can choose me out because you really believe everything you're saying.
	Well, we all do.
	I think she has to convince herself.
	Everything you said is a bunch of bullshit.
	Yes, Emily.
	Yes, Emily.
	I was middle of the day.
	What the fuck?
	I'll hear your shit.
	I'll hear you.
	I'll get to that.
	I'll get to that.
	You're all telling me the same thing.
	I'll listen.
	I'll listen.
	I'm sorry.
	I came across very rude.
	It could have been better.
	I just think that there's like all over the place where you're not really letting other people speak.
	And when they bring up a subject, you try to explain them over what they're trying to say.
	And it's like, how do you get walked?
	It's not.
	You got some serious tech difficulties going on over there, Brian.
	I want to say, I'm sorry.
	I am sorry.
	You really don't have to apologize for that.
	And I am sorry.
	Apologies.
	I am sorry.
	And I am sorry.
	And I am sorry.
	Well, apologies don't really do anything.
	They're not doing anything.
	I'm just saying that everything you said has just been like, what the fuck?
	Holy shit.
	I'm sorry, girls.
	This is not my typical jam.
	It's not my typical place switch in your life where you have to have agency and be courteous of other people around you.
	I don't think it was how I think it was wrong, but still, nevertheless.
	No, you like apologized.
	We were getting it fixed.
	It just transpired into a whole nother point.
	Oh, okay.
	I was waiting for you.
	I didn't know it was the.
	And I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't have gotten all control.
	Are they still able to hear us?
	Or did it like this?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, these are from like this.
	We're like the styrofoam cup.
	I think we're back.
	I think there was some kind of like YouTube lag of some kind that happened.
	A ton of channels just blacked out.
	Oh, it's not just me.
	I'm not back.
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	It happened to me too.
	It happened to four other channels.
	They all DM me at the same time.
	Okay.
	We had to switch to we had to got a secondary internet source.
	So chat, is the stream quality okay?
	How's it look, chat?
	One in the chat if the quality is okay.
	Two in the chat if it's different.
	We're on like a 5G.
	We were doing Wi-Fi, so it was a hardwired Ethernet or whatever it's called.
	And now we're on 5G.
	What was 5G?
	There was, there was, I think that even if you switched over, it would be fine.
	There were four other channels, including mine.
	They all went down at the same time.
	There's no YouTube strikes, anything like that.
	I think it just happened to be a YouTube outage.
	Yeah.
	Okay, that's frustrating because she popped off.
	She was going off queen.
	So we're very sorry.
	All we need to hear is I'm sorry.
	I was wrong.
	Forgive me.
	No, I need to hear the entire diatribe again.
	No, because they're right.
	I'm making, I'm not intending to make justifications, but that's how it's coming across.
	And all that really matters is how I'm affecting people.
	And if I'm hurting people, I'm hurting people.
	That's not okay.
	So I apologize.
	And Brian, I really apologize.
	It was not, I did not know who I was sending those messages to.
	Well, what I would be curious, if you are being genuine, I will be curious to see your social media activity in the coming hours and days after the show.
	Because while you're in person here saying this to me now, you might, you know, use.
	I will give you my word that you are safe.
	Your reputation is safe with me because I situation.
	Yeah, but after you leave, you might feel like, well, it wasn't very nice how they confronted me.
	No, because you guys real talked to me, and I appreciate that.
	You put me in my place.
	It's good.
	That's a good friend.
	But I feel like your feelings can change because that happens a lot.
	Well, because it's one of the things, right?
	My feelings can change in the sense that we all process things after the fact.
	Exactly.
	But I'm not going to get mad at you guys.
	Those watching us, can you tell Andrew that we'll get it fixed in just a sec?
	That's how I affected you.
	I'm not going to go back and be upset with you.
	That's how it felt.
	You were just honest with me, and I appreciate that.
	Wait, Maddie, can you stay for just a sec?
	I need to go back there again and figure out the tech stuff.
	I apologize, guys, for having a couple tech issues.
	I'm pretty.
	I am.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	But I am pretty confident that you're going to, you're, I feel like you're going to be a little two-faced with this.
	You're apologizing to me now, but you're going to go on some witch hunt, diatribe on your social media.
	I'm sorry that I made you feel unsafe, that I would do that.
	Well, let's actually see if you walk the walk.
	So, I mean, I'd be able to have it and I can give you my word.
	Shake on, well, we don't need to shake, but shake on what?
	Shake on the fact that I trust you as a man, and I overall have had a good experience.
	And I'm glad that we all talked about everything because there's nothing toxic to leave with.
	I was out of line.
	You guys put me in my place.
	I'm sorry.
	We all have different perspectives.
	You know, who's the most skeptical here as I'm looking around the panel is Kay.
	Look at you, Kay.
	You're totally skeptical.
	You don't believe a fucking word of it.
	You don't believe any of it.
	So before we were.
	I can't.
	Well, I'll have you come in in just a sec.
	But I, because me and Andrew have encountered this before, where we've had people come on the show and then they proceed to, for days or even weeks, they will, while we were otherwise fairly, you know, even though we perhaps had arguments with them or we disagreed with them, sometimes even gets heated.
	Stop, stop.
	Sometimes it even gets heated.
	They will then go on to basically do what we described as what toxic femininity is, which is reputation destruction.
	Andrew, I'm sure you know precisely who I'm talking about.
	Wait, can Andrew hear me?
	Yeah.
	So I'll just be curious to see in the coming days and weeks your conduct on your own.
	And you guys have dirt on yourself.
	Oh my God.
	I don't mean that.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I'm just saying you do.
	Oh my God.
	I went on the misogynistic podcast and he was about to slide me across the face.
	I felt I was unsafe.
	He was going to come over there and.
	No, You genuinely handled that situation very well.
	It wasn't my favorite.
	Shut the F up.
	That wasn't my favorite.
	And I reacted to it.
	You tried to convince the entire panel to get up and leave with you, even though they had to go to the bottom of the different places coming here to get exposure to various social media.
	Wanted to engage with multiple people.
	You tried to lead a coup d'état in order to be what?
	What was the game?
	That's what I want to know.
	What was the ultimate game?
	No, I'm honest, to be honest with you.
	I mean, you don't maybe won't believe me, but I just wanted to feel safe.
	Feel safe.
	So you're malicious.
	Kay, Kay, how come you don't believe a fucking word of it, Kay?
	I see you over there.
	Nobody escapes me over here.
	What's up?
	What's going on?
	Hyde StreamYard.
	Hyde Stream.
	No, no, no, no.
	Nick, Hyde StreamYard.
	Go ahead.
	So before we had some internet connection, you were go-off queen.
	Just channel that same energy.
	Just, okay, go ahead.
	Okay, so I just think that she's just a big ball of fucking excuses.
	I'm so, I'm not sorry.
	You're just a bunch of just excuses.
	You don't take accountability for anything.
	If anyone calls you out on anything, you try to act like, oh, I'm so sorry.
	I didn't mean to.
	You did.
	This is just you.
	And then this is what you put out into your relationships, I'm sure.
	Because I know it wasn't just the guy's fault 100%.
	Obviously, the one that, you know, that's bad, but I think that you must have done something that led up to that even happening.
	Just the way that I'm watching and listening to everything that you're saying and how you react to other people, how you message people you don't know.
	I think you're the problem 100%.
	And I think you really do need to go to therapy.
	Not you just being a therapist and helping other people.
	I think you need to help yourself before you even think to help others, to be quite honest with you.
	Every therapist should have a lot of people.
	Now you see that vibrational frequency, which interfers vibrational frequency destroyed it.
	You see how that works?
	When those two vibrational frequencies get together, you have the bass frequency, the other bass frequency hits that bass frequency and it just destroys it.
	That's how the vibration actually works, just so you know.
	That's why that Y glass splits, just to tie it all together.
	Right?
	But I mean, Kay is right.
	I guess we won't belabor the point forever.
	But I do think it did deserve a little bit of belaboring because it was frustrating to kind of hear that there was like an attempted coup d'état in the background.
	And then he just kind of pretended that, ah, we'll just move past it.
	But I think the other girls, not so stupid, kind of picked up on it a bit.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I mean, we immediately were like, okay, so she's a troll.
	Like, we're like, we really thought you were a troll.
	We thought you were being that, like, you're doing that on purpose.
	I genuinely find out that's just who you are.
	There was a particular trigger for me that was a rough one.
	And I overreacted, and I'm sorry.
	But asking basic questions was a trigger too.
	So just everything's a trigger.
	Well, yeah, to be honest, which is why I was, again, overly aggressive in my communication because I just assumed I wouldn't even get it.
	Yeah, we're all bugged in one way.
	I know, but I know, but hers is come on a different level.
	We're able to have a conversation and not act like this.
	Like, from girl to girl, like, looking at the whole messages, it doesn't make you feel like, dang, like, take a step back.
	Like, maybe I need to reevaluate how I perceive myself and opportunities and really realize you're not where you think you are.
	Well, here's the thing.
	Here's the thing.
	If I would have come to this show and thought this is about coming together and loving each other and just seeing through differences, I would have carried a different vibe.
	I was just under the impression.
	I was under the impression we were just here to bring up taboo topics and just be entertaining.
	I thought it was just about, I didn't know that it was about just bonding how you treat people, depending if it's going to, it's going to do something for you.
	Well, that was very well asked.
	I wasn't, honestly, I came into this.
	I maybe should have researched it more.
	What I was getting into.
	I had no idea.
	I literally thought it would just be named.
	Can we please havety sing for us?
	I think that would be a good conclusion for this stream.
	Happy birthday to me.
	Is it your birthday birthday?
	It's on July 10th.
	Screw your mic this way.
	Gotta go in the mic.
	Gotta go in the mic.
	Give it your all.
	Let us hear the best of you.
	TTS is.
	Happy birthday to D. Happy birthday to D. Happy birthday to D-E-E-A-L-E-S-S-A-N-D-R-A.
	That's the most energetic.
	My birthday is on July 20th.
	Happy birthday to me.
	Of all that is good.
	Can somebody send Brian in a champagne pop to get him through the rest of his theme?
	This was a tough one.
	I'm so a bit frustrated, kind of differently here.
	Is it cool if I call you Kay?
	No, yeah, people do.
	She was, oh my, guys, this was like, I don't even know, this was like your magnum opus of just owning, and the internet cut off right when you just started getting it.
	It was awful a moment.
	I swear, this was like the camera cuts out.
	And can we channel it?
	What were you trying to say?
	I basically said this is why a lot of men cheat is because of shit like this.
	For God's sakes, imagine coming home to this every fucking day.
	I could understand.
	No, I'm not going to say that.
	But you cannot act like that.
	No, I was just kidding.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	I wish this 38-year-old cackling hen was divorced from O.J. Simpson.
	Every time I hear her speak, all I hear is blah, blah, blah.
	I'm a dirty skank.
	She better invest in Petco.
	She's going to die with cats.
	Wow.
	Oh, my God.
	That's harsh.
	Just cats, though.
	That was insane.
	Anyways, I don't want to dog pile.
	Well, this one's for you, Kay.
	Oh, wait, he's going to take a shot.
	I'm going to take one.
	He's taking one for Kay?
	I thought you had some pretty good takes this panel, I must admit.
	Thank you.
	Let's see it.
	Let's see it.
	Here's to you.
	Here we go.
	Thank you.
	That's like a triple shot.
	Oh, my God.
	Damn.
	Is that vodka?
	Mine's just water.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay, so I'm going to go down real hard.
	You have to understand that this is what we like to call the Irish crook.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, no, it's.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	Oh, it's what we like to call the Irish crutch.
	Whereas other people's IQs go down when they drink, the Irishman's IQ goes up.
	Those are the rules.
	I like it.
	I like that logic.
	So, really, I'm on what's called an Irish performance-enhancing drug.
	There you go.
	That's a good one.
	Vibrating.
	I'll get to that in just a sec.
	Okay.
	I'm just simply saying my energy just needs to match the energy of the other person so that our vibrations vibrate together, so that my feminine essence resonates enough.
	Then I will give you my so TTS's 69, guys.
	I don't know if we're going to do a roast section.
	The show's gone late.
	We've had internet issues started late.
	We got to deny you.
	We've donated $69.
	You want to roast somebody?
	Maddie, we got to do this for you.
	Rescue our man, Gus.
	Brian, is it a sign?
	Andrew, great to see you again.
	Blondie, I hope you can take a joke better than those two blondes that walked into a bar.
	Yeah, I think she's going to be all right.
	I don't think it's going to be one of those things.
	Wait, Maddie, you'll have to come back and say that.
	We got dating donated $69.
	This might be the roast.
	The second blondin is fucking insane.
	I lost high cue points from the first 10 minutes and not sure I can continue through this entire podcast.
	Does it get better?
	Whoa, dude, I haven't seen you in a while, I think.
	It's been, dude, I'm so glad I'm not dating.
	Really good to see you back, man.
	Thank you very much.
	Hold on, I gotta play this for you.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	You're a pioneer, dude.
	You're a fucking pioneer.
	And also, yes, it does get better.
	Yeah, this was a banger of a podcast.
	I appreciate everybody coming out for it.
	I mean, look, we've had a little bit of arguments, but I think it was an entertaining show.
	Would you agree, Andrew?
	Yeah.
	It was good.
	It was still good, you know.
	Maybe we'll do a little light question, a little light question here.
	So, what do you guys think about the Israel-Palestine conflict?
	Just no, no, no, we're not getting into that.
	I know.
	Hey, boys, make sure you throw in those roasts.
	It is the rose section.
	We're not going to get into the Israel-Palestine.
	No, I'm kidding.
	It was a joke.
	Oh, okay.
	I was joking.
	I was obviously joking.
	We already have enough memes of you out there with the walkie-talk.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, wait, hold on.
	Okay, we did that.
	We did that.
	I'm trying to think here.
	We have a lot.
	There's actually still a lot of notes for the both of you.
	And there's some notes for you, Alex.
	D, right?
	Yes, she's funny.
	Here's the issue: we are running out of time a little bit.
	You sent us a lot of notes.
	If you're down to come back on another time, we could.
	You tell me when.
	It's a date.
	It's a date, D. Like me singing.
	It's a date, D. We're homies now.
	Okay.
	We gotta have Kay back.
	Kay was based, right?
	Wait, what's that?
	Kay.
	Kay was based.
	Got all Kay back?
	No, yup.
	Yeah, Kay, we gotta get Kay back.
	I would actually be down if you're down.
	I'd be down to have you back.
	I would love to.
	I'd be down to have you back.
	You could put me on my place.
	We should do like the same exact panel.
	The same exact panel, but in like show!
	Are you gonna show me that?
	In a year.
	I'll be making more drinks.
	I like shit together.
	Every year.
	I know it's in July.
	On my birthday.
	We'll have a reunion into old age.
	We'll all be in our 60s and we'll be like, remember that.
	Remember that time.
	Remember the show.
	You can pull up some of those.
	Oh, wait, let me read this one from Maddie.
	Can you read this?
	OMG, I'll marry Kay for real, for real.
	Did you like that?
	You should have put it in your mind.
	Her Instagram is in the description if you guys want to slide in the DM.
	I thought.
	But she's talking to somebody.
	Oh, right.
	That's true.
	Sorry, I'm not trying to step on any toes there.
	Yeah, Kay was dope.
	I think it was a really good panel.
	Really good panel.
	I do want to actually get into it.
	Back to dating here.
	So let me see.
	I can maybe touch on a few of my notes here.
	FJB.
	Love that.
	What's FJB?
	Oh, yeah.
	It is Trump.
	It's the Trump thing, right?
	Whoa.
	It means F Joe Biden.
	But if Phil Trump is like F. Trump, you want to say it.
	We have a Let's Go Brandon.
	It's cleaner.
	I'm still confused.
	Nickelodeon donated $69.
	Blonde.
	Apparently, I was wrong.
	D, that was hard to admit.
	But when you were pretending to study therapy on Wiki, did you come across the phrase generational trauma?
	God have mercy on her kids' souls.
	For real.
	I think about that.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	It's unfortunate.
	Yeah, our Twitch stream.
	We lost our Twitch stream.
	Well, the Twitch stream is back, but it just started a totally separate new stream.
	So we're 20 minutes into our Twitch stream.
	Not sure what happened there.
	Speaking of which, though, Nick, if you could pull it up, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow and a prime sub.
	If you have one, it's been nine minutes, guys, since a prime.
	If you guys could drop us a little prime, I think it's bugged, boys.
	I think our Twitch might be bugged.
	I don't know.
	There's something, it's like something's weird.
	Something's kind of like weird thing.
	I don't know.
	I'm kind of like, you know.
	Could you read this, Maddie?
	Brian's Dumpy.
	The blonde.
	Thank you, Brian's Dumpy.
	The blonde mask is the type of therapist that can make a sane person go insane.
	All I'm feeling from her is bad vibrations and having photos of your kids and blank on your face is vile CPS.
	Where are you at?
	It's pretty heartbreaking.
	I can tell you, I can't.
	Stop the cat crying.
	Sorry, I did not mean to press any of those buttons.
	Why do you scream like that?
	Out of context?
	Out of context?
	What?
	What?
	Wait, what?
	Oh, the sidebar?
	Okay.
	So, good talk.
	What was the.
	I was trying to think of the light dating question.
	A light dating question.
	The light dating question.
	The dating answer.
	Various crazy people donated $69.
	K, you're a good one.
	You will get a man one day and have many children.
	God bless.
	Can we get a double?
	Desire, you're loud.
	Never shut up.
	Disgusting example of a human being and insufferable.
	I bet even your cats meet.
	Try a little try.
	Oh, my triceps are sexy.
	Hold on.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, shit.
	Oh, my ATX donated $69.
	I'm landing short of the Omnivan's ministry moment.
	This is in the works.
	It's in the works.
	My team's already on it.
	Cunning the shit up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Optimize ATX.
	Appreciate it.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, we have a dating app review that we're doing for Kay over here.
	Yeah, tell me if my D's trainer.
	Oh, yeah?
	All right, this is her hinge.
	Kay's hinge.
	Okay.
	Let's make sure we're on the same page about our views.
	Okay, cool.
	Nice.
	So this is she's Christian.
	She's conservative, life partner.
	Looking for a life partner.
	5'3.
	You're 5'3?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Wants children.
	30.
	Okay, next.
	I can't believe you're 30.
	Okay, next.
	Oh, wait.
	If you're obsessed with the gym as much as me, damn.
	Okay, nice.
	Is to start a family with a man who wants to lead it.
	Yeah.
	Is there another one or is that?
	There's one more.
	One more.
	Just me and my sister.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Is she younger or older?
	She's younger.
	Okay.
	She's 23.
	Good times.
	All right, cool.
	So that's for the chat.
	Chat.
	Do you swipe yes or no?
	Nick, you show us the chat.
	Is that a yes for Kay or no for Kay?
	She's pretty based.
	She's super based.
	I mean, oh, wait.
	Considering a lot of this show you have to refresh.
	That really isn't that bad.
	To be honest, it's not that bad.
	Pretty the standard of it's not that bad, probably.
	Maybe that's a bad standard, but it's just not that bad.
	What's not that bad?
	Sorry, I missed.
	It's alright.
	Burger Gravyard donated $69.
	Whatever podcast becomes an intervention.
	Okay, huge W, super based.
	Blonde, learn about accountability and that there are consequences for your actions and for what you say.
	Burger out.
	This could either be a growing experience or she just digs her heels in and is like, fuck that, whatever, podcast.
	Yeah.
	Fuck them.
	No, no, no.
	I understand now what the podcast is.
	So I understand how to.
	Yeah, she understands that it's a misogynistic in-cell podcast.
	No, I just understand that it's a group collaborative conversation.
	I honestly thought I was just coming by myself.
	$69.
	I have a question for the blonde.
	Oh, wait.
	You probably don't have time for that.
	Kay, you're based and hot AF.
	Swipe yes all day.
	Thank you.
	Everybody looks good.
	By the way, I feel like the roast section can also be like a if you want to leave a nice message too.
	You guys can always leave.
	You know, nice.
	If you enjoy the panelists or like roast us and everyone's like, Nice stuff, too, you know.
	Nestor Delgado donated $69.
	Thank you for the first time.
	Hi, Brian.
	Don't first time Donnie.
	Thank you, man.
	Are you sure?
	Blonde lady, no worries.
	I know your high energy and things only make sense a certain way, but seems you absorb your surroundings pretty good.
	Keep that train of thought.
	Yeah, you're open-minded.
	Open-minded.
	I try.
	I'm sorry, I was so true.
	Just make sure that you're not so open-minded that your brain falls out of your head.
	Amen.
	That's funny.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Nestor Delgado.
	I appreciate it.
	Uh-oh.
	Can you read this, Mandy?
	Desiree, you literally hurt my brain tonight with your filthy trumpet bleep.
	Brian, please do not invite her back to this great podcast.
	This is one of the worst trumpets I've ever seen.
	I'm down to have, like, I bring people back who I disagree with, so if you want, we can have you back.
	I'll watch it.
	Bring me back with that key go chip.
	Do you want to come back?
	Hey, let's go.
	Child protective services donated $69.
	We have received multiple reports about Blondie and have tracked her location.
	Agents will be deployed to her home to save her children from degeneracy and corrupt upbringing.
	Don't do that.
	I get this from the middle.
	Listen, do not, do not, under any circumstances, do that.
	And here's what: throughout future conversations, we can possibly bring her around to our way of thinking.
	If her children were taken into foster care, things like that, something insane like that, understand the amount of abuse that they would potentially face is 10 times higher than if they were left with their mother.
	Never do that.
	Yeah.
	Never ever do that.
	And that is not what the show is about.
	The show is about the free exchange of ideas when it comes to dating, when it comes to relationships.
	I don't want to hear fucking nothing about that.
	It's bullshit.
	Brian doesn't endorse it.
	Enough of that.
	Proudly unvaxed donated $69.
	Blonde false preacher.
	You genuinely disgust me.
	I truly hope CPS is called because you are admitting to essentially G-rooming.
	It made me physically ill to hear that.
	I pray they are saved.
	Disavow.
	And also, just want to make it clear that previous message, that's not actually CPS.
	People will pretend they'll tell you.
	Of course, they're joking.
	Yeah, they're joking.
	They'll pretend to be IRS.
	Bob Segert donated to you.
	I'm not going to do that to you.
	I'm not going to do that.
	I found out last week my wife is cheating on me and looking at an expensive divorce.
	Wish me luck.
	She won't get this $69 at least.
	Kay, what do you bench?
	What'd you bench, Kay?
	$155.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Blondie, you don't need to.
	You don't need to cry.
	I can see you.
	I can see you on the verge, right?
	You don't have to.
	The truth is, is that most of this is fucking nonsense and they're joking around.
	Let it go.
	It's nonsense.
	Let it go.
	They send in messages.
	Nobody's going to do it.
	Nobody's going to do it.
	You'll be fine.
	You'll be fine.
	I'm worried about that chest.
	You'll be fine.
	I promise.
	I get it a while ago.
	Hang on.
	Look at me.
	Look at me.
	You'll be fine.
	I promise.
	It's nonsense.
	They're just having a go.
	Yeah.
	They're just having a go.
	Like, for example, for example.
	Wait, just hold on.
	For example, people will send in a message pretending to be the internal revenue service.
	And they'll joke and say, oh, Brian, or, you know, if there's an OF girl, they'll say, oh, you know, that, you know, whatever.
	They'll make some joke that they're.
	I can't.
	It was recent that somebody sent in an IRS one, right, Nick?
	Do you remember what it was about?
	It was some.
	It was funny.
	They're joking.
	I wouldn't take it.
	Danielle Lilval donated $69.
	Blonde, your kids might not make it to high school BC of your shitty decisions.
	When the funeral comes up, remember this podcast.
	It will be all your fault, and maybe you'll post a pic with Nucktafta.
	Hey, let it go.
	Half of it is fun, half of it is joking.
	They're not going to do it.
	The whole point of it, the whole point of it, is to try to jar you out of where it is that you mentally are at.
	I'm not trying to make it excuse me.
	It really isn't what you think it is.
	Just chill out.
	You're good, I promise.
	Look at me.
	I'm not going to fucking feed you bullshit.
	If I thought that you were the fucking scumbag of the universe, I would tell you, and I do think you're kind of a scumbag.
	But that aside, nobody's going to do that.
	Nobody's going to do this to you.
	They're joking.
	I understand.
	I'm not emotional about thinking that that's going to happen.
	Of course.
	I get emotional because it's very easy for people to pick out certain elements of a personality out of context and then judge a person based on that.
	Of course.
	And I can take it all day long with the I'm a slut and I know, but when it comes to the kids.
	But when it comes to the kids, I'm not saying I'm a perfect mother, but I do a pretty damn good job with my kids considering the cards that were dealt, you could say.
	Listen.
	And I'm always trying to improve.
	Listen, I'm not even pushing that way.
	I'm just saying that I'm a father myself.
	I understand where it is your angst is coming from.
	I do.
	There's nothing I love more in this world than my own children.
	But just try to understand this is part of a roast section.
	There's nothing that's going to come of it.
	We don't need the tears because they're totally unwarranted.
	Just trust me.
	I wasn't trying to cry.
	Trust me.
	I was trying to not cry.
	Anything to the contrary, I would just tell you.
	The TTS is temporarily paused.
	Just to line the mood, this is something we haven't done in a very long time.
	This is dating related.
	I want to play the Patrice O'Neill clip.
	I don't think we've, it's been maybe a year since we've played the Patrice O'Neill clip.
	It's a classic.
	We'll line the mood a bit.
	The TTS is temporarily paused.
	I see a few of you have sent one in.
	Don't worry.
	We will get those.
	We're just going to pause them for a few minutes.
	Nick, do you know the Patrice clip?
	Is it in YouTube clips?
	No, it's going to probably be in the Dropbox folder.
	So those of you sending TTS in, it's temporarily paused.
	Just letting you guys know we will get to them.
	So there's a few in the queue.
	While he pulls the clip up, do you understand that there's a distinction between we're playing around, we're messing around, we're kidding around, and what may manifest itself in reality?
	These people are not actually going to do any of this.
	It's a joke.
	They're kidding.
	Do you understand?
	I understand.
	It's just it hits the deepest fears in me of not doing my best for my kids.
	Do you realize that a public persona like myself gets hit with this non-stop every single day?
	So that's why I'm using it as a growth opportunity to expand my capacity to be able to take criticisms.
	And at the end of the day, I do sleep okay at night because I know I am personally doing the best I can with the cards that we're done.
	Man the fuck up.
	Hey, you know what?
	It's just the emotional masculine person.
	It's a masculine energy.
	I'm good.
	I'm good.
	She's good.
	Yeah, you're good.
	Let's see the good.
	Yeah, man him the fuck up.
	We're not gonna cry.
	We're not gonna whine.
	We're gonna man the fuck up, right?
	Good job, Nick.
	Oh.
	There we go.
	There we go.
	I can't flash a nip because for God's sakes, you'll lose your life, apparently.
	And God, Brian, you're my butt.
	Nick, Nick, remember we had a nip slip.
	Hang on, hang on.
	He's one of the nicest men I've ever come across.
	You are really a good man.
	I can't do that.
	He is one of the kindest men I've ever met.
	He does everything he can possibly do to take care of the people who are around him.
	Why are you beating up on Nick?
	No, I said a nip slip.
	Nip NIP.
	Remember, we had the whole tragedy in the beginning?
	I was trying to lighten the mood, and I was making a joke saying I would, I was saying I would flash everybody to lighten the mood, but we can't do that because it'll ruin the world.
	I don't see why they're all wanting to call CPS.
	What the hell?
	Stop trying to flash people all the time.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm joking.
	It's a joke.
	But I'm just saying, Brian has some of the best showrunners who are out there.
	And then on top of that, don't take it so seriously.
	Don't have the tears in the eyes.
	Just enjoy yourself.
	Enjoy yourself.
	Enjoy yourself.
	Enjoy your.
	I'm going to wait to play the clip until she's back.
	It's unfortunate that she got up.
	While we do that, though, I will allow a couple of these chats to come in.
	Then we'll play the clip.
	I'll allow the kind of more tame ones.
	The other ones will come through, but I'm just going to do a little bit of moderation on the TTS here for just a moment.
	Let me see if I can.
	Wait, Frick.
	She admitted it donated.
	69.
	Hold on.
	Hold on, boys.
	Let me see how I'm going to do this here.
	Okay, she's back.
	We're going to just play the clip.
	As soon as she comes back to the table, we're going to play the.
	There she is.
	She's hustling.
	She's grinding.
	She's running.
	She gets the aggro crack, boys.
	The radical rock.
	Okay, go ahead and play the Patrice clip, Nick.
	Video tab.
	Wait, hold on.
	Yeah, let's just show this really quick, and then we're going to hide it.
	God damn, bro.
	Y'all got to chill out in the chat.
	All right.
	Did we hide Andrew?
	Just keep him.
	We'll keep him.
	We'll keep him.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Here's a question.
	Here's a good serious question.
	Okay, ladies, if you didn't have a vagina, like say it was a terrible train accident, right?
	And the doctor was like, we have to remove your pussy right away or you're going to die.
	How would you keep your man past, you get a two-month guilty?
	I can't leave the bitch right away because you just lost a pussy in a train accident.
	Can't just walk right out on him.
	How would you keep your man past that?
	If you didn't have a vagina.
	We have other holes.
	Yeah, we got other holes we can cook.
	No, Hang on.
	To the spirit of the actual question.
	Let us start with Blondie.
	Hang on.
	Let us start with Blondie.
	Because Blondie's position was the ultimate strength of women, including her, was that she had the V that the men wanted because of the P, right?
	So his question kind of alludes to my own, which is what value do you bring to the table other than that?
	So now you have the golden opportunity to tell us.
	I can still give him pleasure.
	I mean, I guess if I didn't have that whole, then it is what it is.
	But I believe I would still maintain my same commitment to him to bring him the pleasure however I could and for us to bond and be close and for me to be his confidant, for me to be his, whatever he needs me to be, and for me to receive his penetration in whatever way we could work out as a couple.
	Well, it seems as though you're still saying that the ultimate value that you bring to the table is that he can have sex with you.
	Well, let's get all the girls to answer this question.
	Go ahead.
	What is the actual question?
	Did you not just watch?
	Did we make him have me?
	Did you watch the clip that we just into the mic?
	We're referring to you.
	Into the mic, scoot the mic to that.
	If you have neurogenitis.
	We're referring sexually.
	What is what we would do?
	Well, let them interpret it however they want to interpret it.
	So what would you do?
	Okay, look, hold on, hold on.
	Terrible train accident.
	Lost your pussy.
	Pussy gone, train accident.
	The pussy's gone.
	Terrible train accident.
	What do you do?
	You get a three-month, can't leave the bitch, just lost pussy in a train accident.
	What do you do to keep your man?
	I get a cleaning lady, so she's cleaning that house.
	I get a chef, so she's making dinner because I can't get up because I don't got no pussy.
	And then I am wearing lingerie, even though I still got no pussy.
	And I'm going to just lay in that bed and I can't open my legs, so you can't really do it.
	I have a mouth that works.
	We eat dinner together.
	We'll watch shows together.
	I will wear my butt plug for you during the day.
	And then if it's been a really long day, you get to get the back door.
	What about you?
	Well, I don't really rely on sex that much.
	So I would just kind of do the same thing I normally do and that just spend time and have engaging conversations and watch movies, paint, interact, grow businesses, talk about the future, and just keep doing what we've been doing just without the sex.
	The sex is never, or specifically the pussy is never the issue here.
	What about you?
	Similar to what she said, I feel like if he loves you enough, he would still stay with you even after you don't have to.
	But what would you, so the question is, what would you do to keep your man?
	I said the similar thing as her, like basically the same thing.
	So just spend quality time.
	You just caught me joking on camera.
	Oh, but see, I know the highlight.
	You okay?
	Yeah, popcorn just like.
	Yeah, popcorn is always the culprit.
	It's like that.
	She's like Bevo.
	He does like the fucking.
	Wait, now you're choking on water, Madison.
	What's going on?
	I've been seeing him all over my TikTok, and I send it to Nick every time.
	He like, wait, it does that.
	It's actually kind of funny.
	He like, he tries to swallow food whole, and he'll like, it looks like he's about to die.
	Yo, Sean, that's a good talk.
	Wait, wait, wait, Brian.
	You're not talking about Cuck Bevo.
	We're talking about Cuck Bevo.
	Oh, okay.
	It's funny.
	He's not funny, but it's more like we're laughing at him, not with him, sort of thing.
	there's like compilations on tiktok and it's like all the times we've almost lost bebo it's kind of funny it's kind of funny Like swallowing food.
	Did Bevo ever apologize for his malicious and salacious lies against the whatever podcast?
	He did not.
	In fact, after I confronted him about it, he blocked me on TikTok.
	And oh, here's actually the crazy thing, Andrew.
	Update on that.
	So he blocked me on Instagram.
	He blocked me on TikTok.
	The reason he blocked me on TikTok is from my whatever account.
	I looked at one of his videos and people were commenting, saying something along the lines of.
	You're a lying sack of dog shit.
	Yeah, but so there were people leaving comments saying, well, hold on.
	Your girlfriend in a live, like a week before she showed up on the show, on the live stream said, said on her own live stream that they were in an open relationship.
	So what's the truth?
	In a live stream, before she even came on, she was talking about how she was in an open relationship.
	Here's another fact.
	If you go to her Instagram, I didn't, you know, it's like three bucks or some shit.
	I'm not going to pay that, but whatever.
	She says she does BBG, BBB.
	I'm pretty sure that three B's, I'm pretty sure.
	BBBG content.
	So that means that she's doing content with multiple men, which would, I think, that necessarily means that she's in an open relationship and other men.
	Uh-oh.
	We just lost Andrew.
	Fuck.
	Oh, my God.
	God damn it.
	It's wait.
	Just leave it.
	I'm curious to know if.
	Can you guys still hear me?
	Oh, we can hear you.
	The lizard of Oz.
	The voice of your just frozen on screen, but we can hear you.
	Sorry, man.
	Our internet's fucking crappy.
	What's your face?
	Oops.
	God damn it.
	Okay, are we back?
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I don't know what the frick.
	There you go.
	He's moving.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay, so here's where we stop, Brian.
	Yeah, we're talking about Bevo's ex.
	Are we back?
	I'm sorry.
	Twitch, are we back?
	Yeah, yeah, we're back.
	His future ex was explaining that they are in an actual open relationship and go on from there.
	Yeah, so she did a live before she came on the show saying that she, at least that's what the comments on TikTok, that's what made him block me because I was trying to get some details.
	She said that they were in an open relationship in a live stream.
	And then if you go to her OnlyFans, it says she does BBG, BBBG content, if I recall correctly, the numbers of the Bs, which means that she's sleeping with other men for scenes on her OnlyFans.
	Why are you waving your head?
	BB, boy, boy, girl, boy, boy, boy, girl.
	No, it was bare back.
	So can I get from the panel, if your significant other, the person who you claimed you cared about the most in the world, in this case, you're a male and this was a female.
	and you allowed other men to have sex with this female who you claimed you valued more than anything else, would that man be a cuck?
	Can I get a raise of hands for who would consider him a cuck?
	Basically, everybody, except, of course, the contrarian on the panel.
	But essentially, everybody would consider him a cuck.
	So I just want to get clarification on that.
	Yeah.
	Did we go around on the Patrice?
	What do you do to keep your man?
	Oh, I would support him in his business and what he's doing.
	I'd be loving.
	I would cook him.
	I'd cook for him, spend time with him.
	And I would still find ways to sexually.
	What the heck?
	I saw legs.
	I just don't have a vagina.
	It would heal eventually, right?
	The wound would heal.
	It's a terrible train accident.
	It's just like sewed together that I still have my legs.
	Wait, what?
	I still have my legs, right?
	I can still walk around.
	We didn't get our body chocolate.
	Yeah.
	The pussy is gone.
	Well, wait, can you just wait until we...
	I was just assuming it was just that part on it.
	What about you?
	Your answer?
	So it's basically just what we can still offer.
	I would just say.
	The question is, what do you do?
	What do you do to keep your man?
	What do you do to keep your man?
	No, yeah, if we don't have that, what do we offer?
	Yeah, it's just basically, I was just going to say that if, like, when he comes home from a long day at work, you can still give him a massage, make him still feel good, even though you can't make him feel good in other ways.
	You can still do that.
	You can still help him out with whatever his business is.
	You want a man that's emotionally intelligent.
	You have to be able to deal with a man that's like that.
	So you want to be able to still be there for him in that way.
	You still want to be able to do your motherly duties, your wifely duties, of course.
	Madison.
	Yeah, what she said.
	Yeah, no, I can't let this.
	Wait, hold on.
	Hang on, Kay.
	You were so base a second ago.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	But Andrew, we got to play the clip.
	We got to play the there's a there's a follow-up.
	Nick, play the rest of the clip.
	Wow.
	Nothing?
	You can talk.
	You can talk.
	Suck his dick.
	Okay.
	Mouth.
	Asshole, okay, great.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Now, I've been getting pussy bean the whole show, right?
	But I give women an opportunity to say, I want to make myself worth more.
	But you just classified yourself as a series of holes.
	But, but, you know, I'm.
	I'm supposed to treat you special, but you're just a bunch of holes to yourself.
	No one said learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, get another bitch that got a pussy to come on in.
	Oh, I like that.
	Well, look, whatever.
	Andrew, do you have a quick thing on this?
	And then I need to let the TTS go.
	Yeah, so, Kay, I do have to pick on you and the Pentecostal for a second.
	I need to hear from you, Kay.
	You were so based five seconds ago as you were destroying the evil in the room.
	But what are you bringing to the table other than sex?
	What?
	Oh, I said it already.
	What?
	What is it?
	Oh, I was just going to say, like, you want to give your man peace.
	Like, when he comes home, you don't want to, he doesn't want to come home to a dragon.
	You want to come home to a nice woman that's going to give you massages if you had a stressful day.
	You won't get on his nerves.
	You'll cook for him, obviously.
	You'll go to the gym with him, make his protein shake.
	I'm just thinking, like, a gym perspective.
	Why are you doing all that?
	Because you love him.
	I love him.
	Is it because you love him?
	How do you show respect, though?
	How do you show respect?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess in multitudes of ways.
	I mean, if he says, hey, I don't want you to wear that, and this is the reason why, or even if he doesn't give a reason, you just got to show you.
	What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with your best friend, Kay?
	What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with your best friend, Kay?
	I got to know.
	He's going to love Corey.
	You're going to show it in a multitude of ways.
	You're going to rub his back.
	You're going to suck S the D. You're going to do all this.
	What if he says, I don't want you to hang out with the best friend?
	How are we going to show the respect?
	How?
	I'm going to be living with him anyways.
	I wouldn't be hanging out with Corey.
	So Corey doesn't exist if your man says Corey doesn't exist, right?
	When I'm living with him, yes.
	All right.
	I feel like we're getting somewhere.
	I feel like we're getting somewhere.
	All right.
	Did you?
	Was there someone else that you had a question for?
	Yeah, yeah.
	So for the Pentecostal on the page.
	Sorry, my bad.
	What are you bringing more than speaking in tongues to him while he's asleep?
	May I pray over him?
	That's a joke.
	It's a joke.
	Don't beat me up about it.
	I'm kidding.
	No, no, I'm not sure.
	We're of two different faiths, but you've been pretty bass the whole panel, too.
	What are you bringing to the table?
	What are you bringing for the man?
	For sure, honor and respect, support.
	My boyfriend is a big business owner, so a lot of stress.
	So I make sure that I'm there for him.
	Spend quality time with him.
	Be submissive.
	And I still would find, as a wife, I would still find ways to please him.
	I think that is part of a biblical wife.
	What does submission mean to you?
	Trusting him and just like if he tells me to go left, I go left.
	What if you think you should go right?
	So here's the thing.
	So you and I can agree on one underlying point.
	If your man wants you to become a Satanist, obviously you're going to say no because you're going to defer to your faith.
	Yeah.
	Because that is within reason.
	Right.
	However, you can have tons of disagreements within reason.
	And you can have a deferring opinion to his.
	Do you defer to him?
	Yeah, I think the foundation is that he has to be submitted to God.
	Then I can be submitted to him.
	And then everything else besides that, like if I don't agree with him 100%, I still have to trust him.
	What if he's spending all that money, the ways that you hate, and he's raising those kids, all the ways that you hate?
	You just, you're so angry about it.
	Do you submit?
	Yeah, I well, I would talk to him about it.
	I think that it would still be.
	He dismisses it.
	He says no.
	Then I'm in charge of this family and I'm correct.
	And that's that.
	If he's you defer.
	The only way I would defer if he's abusing or cheating, like abusing my kids or abusing me or cheating.
	Yeah, he's not abusing them.
	He just has a different worldview for where he wants to be.
	Then no, I would submit.
	You would submit.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Even though my chest is not.
	Even in cases of faith, as long as he's not leading you towards the devil.
	Right.
	Right?
	It has to be within the confines of reason.
	If he's truly submitted to that.
	Hang on.
	Most arguments happen within the confines of reason.
	He may have reasons you don't like, but that doesn't make him unreasonable.
	Right.
	You still submit, right?
	Yes.
	If he is submitted to God, then I will submit to him.
	Even if I don't understand why he's telling me to do something.
	So how is that not fake freedom that you mentioned earlier?
	Because then I don't, it's not fake freedom because I don't have to worry about a lot of things that he's carrying.
	Have you ever heard, like, or you probably have that's insane?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Are you saying that your future children aren't going to be free?
	My children?
	Yeah, to the Russian gal.
	Me?
	I'm not.
	Your children, your children.
	I'm never going to have kids.
	So it doesn't matter.
	If you did, we're going to assume for a second that you had a child.
	Okay.
	Are you going to protect the plugs?
	They don't stick their finger in it.
	Probably not because.
	No.
	Not in the plugs.
	Not the plugs.
	Because I've put my fingers on the plugs when I was a kid.
	I haven't fought.
	What if they sucked their finger and then they didn't?
	I would teach my kids better than that because I was taught better than that.
	My son did that with an extension cord and zapped him and not to stick their finger in a light socket?
	Really?
	Okay.
	All I'm saying is that, I mean, it's very different, but also I'm not understanding the point of your question.
	So, social, can I consider your hand in a fire?
	Would you let your two-year-old put their hand in a fire?
	Yes, I would, because that would teach them a lesson.
	Because that's what was done.
	Okay, so I'm going to answer your question, though.
	You say, is that fake freedom?
	No, no, it's because you mentioned fake freedom.
	No, no, no, I know ourselves.
	You're just asking how much time is that.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Would you let your kid take a knife and start stabbing themselves in the chest because that would teach them a lesson?
	No, I would grab the knife and then I would grab a pillow and then I would stab the pillow to show what happens when you actually stab.
	But that kid doesn't sound free.
	That doesn't sound free.
	Yeah.
	That sounds like, hang on, that sounds like you're dominating them and not letting them do what they want.
	But how is okay, I'm sorry, how is that different from okay, not understanding exactly the point between a grown and a grown woman submitting to them?
	Who's in charge?
	You or the kid?
	Okay, I'm not understanding the point and the difference between a grown woman who already has gone through life and already has been taught all these lessons submitting fully to a man, even with against her own body.
	How is that not a fake freedom?
	Because you yourself said that.
	It's a great question.
	Yeah, which is a good question.
	I'll answer the question.
	Let us assume for a moment that you're 20 years old when you have your first child.
	You would agree that your experience is far surpassing that of the child, correct?
	And so it was a duty for you to guide the child, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	So let us assume for a second you're 40 and marry a 20-year-old.
	Does the same duty exist?
	No, it does not.
	And then she does.
	Why not?
	Because at that point, it's a grown person.
	Oh, I see.
	So the lack of experience or the lack of emotional maturity or the lack of anything that one partner may lack, you have no obligation to follow the other one for guidance.
	What?
	If you are correcting a child, it's because you think that the child is out of bounds, right?
	No, it's because the child doesn't know any better just yet and they're still learning about the body.
	They're not going to be in the same situation where they don't know any better.
	Okay, except the specific situation I'm asking about is the one that you brought up, where she is shaking with anger and doesn't necessarily want to do it, but there are only specific, only specific situations that will push her over the edge.
	What are those situations?
	Which were the cheating and abuse.
	And those are biblical.
	Yeah, so abuse or infidelity.
	Yeah.
	So what's wrong with it?
	So what's wrong with that?
	Let's assume for a second that she married somebody either equal in age to her or 20 years older.
	Yeah, and the dumbass.
	She makes the agreement that he says, listen, I want a submissive wife, and she submits.
	What is actually the problem with him saying, good, then we're going to do things my way.
	There is no problem as long as everyone's consenting, which is why I asked her.
	But there's a second part to the equation.
	You guys have like one or two minutes because the TTSs have been.
	There's a second part to the equation, which is what I was asking for all of you.
	So if you guys can each make your final arguments on this, please go ahead.
	Okay, so the second part of the equation is that he, I'm not just submitting to him, but he's also laying his life down for me.
	So he's protecting me.
	He's loving me.
	He's looking out for me.
	So if I really believe that he is submissive to God and I trust him, then I can be, it's not, it is freedom because I don't have to worry about all these things that I don't want to worry about as a woman.
	I don't want to.
	She's talking about, she's talking about that pesky epistemology.
	So from her purview, she submits to God.
	And so she thinks that her partner, in this case, a man who submits to God, is in the image of Christ.
	So she's going to submit to the partner and she's going to submit to God.
	But she's also going to say, look, my partner is an image bearer, direct image bearer of the relationship between the head of the church and the body of the church.
	And so she's going to submit.
	And which is perfectly fine.
	But the interesting thing about what she's saying, though, she's telling you that this is the case, right?
	That this is a truth claim.
	What's interesting about the truth claim is that the women and men who engage in this tend to have the best outcomes.
	How do you explain that?
	Okay, well, actually, we haven't had the chance to talk about my relationship, so you don't know anything about me.
	I don't need to.
	And well, but that's the thing.
	It would answer a lot.
	And I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
	Oh, it would answer a lot.
	You said that you met with a disabled man while you were disabled and got really close to him over the disability, but have open relationships.
	Is that correct?
	We do not have open relationships.
	We are monogamous.
	However, if we meet somebody, it would be a conversation.
	It would not be immediately cheating.
	Do you think that inside of a Christian marriage there would be any such conversation?
	Well, I'm not Christian, which is why I'm asking.
	Yeah, so then I don't actually need to understand your epistemology to explain my own.
	So if your epistemist foundation is not asking for yours, I was asking for.
	Hang on, your grounding foundation of knowledge is do as thou wilt, which is what it is.
	Then I can give you the epistemology of the Pentecostal here who is telling you that is not my grounding knowledge.
	My knowledge comes from God and the submission to God and therefore the submission of my husband.
	So if we're talking about these two worldview paradigms, she has the superior one because she's saying that she will submit, understanding there's a higher authority, which is her husband, and the husband's higher authority, which is God.
	You're saying you will not submit.
	I never said that.
	Conversation can occur.
	If a conversation could even occur, how could you be submitted?
	Again, you don't know my relationship.
	And if we had more time, I wouldn't mind.
	I would love to go into it.
	How could you be submitted if you could go to your husband and say you want to fuck another dude?
	How could you really be submitted?
	Because I don't.
	That's the thing.
	I'm not wanting to.
	Because we are all free people.
	And if we see somebody that we like, it's all about what we do with it.
	Your pleasure.
	Do as I will.
	Do as thou wilt.
	Yeah, I think everyone should do whatever they do.
	Did you know that's a Satanist's church's affirmation?
	I used to be a Satanist.
	You do whatever you want.
	I mean, I'm just fine.
	I'm not judging anybody.
	Well, it's not.
	It's not.
	I'm not judging anybody.
	I want to understand your perspective, which is why I asked.
	And I was not asking for your perspective on her perspective.
	I was asking her perspective.
	Yeah, but listen, that's not the Levé and Satanist affirmation of do as thou wilt.
	That's an Aleister Crowley affirmation.
	The satanic church comes from LeVay.
	That's a little different.
	He's more of a Nietzschean.
	But that aside, it doesn't matter.
	What does matter is, how can you, here's my question.
	How could you truly be submitted like she's willing to be to your husband if you're willing to go to your husband and ask if you can sleep with another man?
	How's that actual submission?
	Well, that's the thing.
	I'm not married.
	I'm never planning on being married.
	And no, and that's the thing.
	If I were to be married and we chose to be completely monogamous for the rest of our lives, and that was both of our choices, that's what I would go with because that's what we have decided on.
	However, in this particular relationship, please answer to the question.
	To the question, to the question.
	Which is what?
	I don't have a hard time.
	Hang on.
	The question itself.
	If submission means I'm giving myself over to you for all choice, then how could you truly be submitted to a man who you would then be willing to go to and ask that you be shared?
	How?
	So you get a response, you make one response, Andrew, you give a response, and then I have to move it on.
	Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
	Okay, so I never asked to be shared, and it is not about submission.
	I can submit if it is the right situation.
	And once again, your question is not even applicable.
	I'm sorry.
	Because I'm not planning on 100% submitting.
	Right?
	I'm not submitting 100%.
	So let me just ask this last question.
	Okay?
	How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
	I didn't eat breakfast this morning.
	Okay, that's what I thought.
	All right, we can move on from there.
	If you guys want, once we get through the TTSs, we can come back to it.
	They're going to fall off, so I just want to be considerate of them.
	All right.
	Real Trump donated $69.
	Kay, you're a black conservative woman.
	Are you related to Candace Owens or Jesse Lee Peterson?
	Would love to make out with you at a Trump rally.
	Oh, my God.
	So, what if you were carrying a Glock right now?
	Oh, my God.
	I love Candace.
	She's my favorite.
	Same.
	Trump 2024.
	We're going to have Candace back on the show.
	Oh, my God.
	I would love to meet her freaking daughter.
	We had her on the show.
	I would die.
	And yeah, we're going to have her back on.
	She dropped a new podcast.
	Burger Graveyard donated $69.
	I just came for the burger.
	Where's the burger?
	I know I'm hungry.
	What's going on?
	Are you bringing it in and out?
	I've loved or eaten anything in the last two days.
	Oh, my.
	I have protein bar.
	No, I got some snacks.
	Are you sure you're not on anything?
	She admitted it donated $69.
	Ah, did we not all hear her say she'll teach her kids how to do acts and encourage them to sell themselves?
	CPS jokes aside, that is vile.
	Repent.
	Repent.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	To you, I guess.
	Thank you.
	We have another one coming in.
	There's a little extra delay here, but.
	Beaten Cheeks donated $69.
	Brian, explain to Andrew about my soft guy era.
	Anyways, Blanche Sugar Daddy Hunting, if you make seven figures a year, Venmo me $1,000 to my account.
	I'll talk to you.
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	I do like the Drizzle Drizzle.
	Andrew, Beaten Cheeks is in this soft guy era.
	Just letting you know.
	Mr. Bullet donated $69.
	Orders from the Grand Inquisitor.
	Brian, the root cause of your huge weight gain is eating too much popcorn during the podcast.
	Get to the gym already and ship that sleeve of blue white cups now.
	Two cups.
	Wait, what?
	What two Wilson's one cup?
	No sleeve.
	Estosa for donated $69.
	Hello, Desiree.
	I know you had a tough time and feel hurt.
	Regardless of your personality and difficult interpersonal communication style, you do not need to be personally attacked.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	If anybody can name a personal attack, I'd like to hear it.
	Danielle Lilvaldonated $69.
	You do a good job to take PP from the highest bidder.
	Thank God my wife is a blessing, and I don't need to worry about my daughter jumping over a strumpet mom.
	And no, Andrew, I'm not kidding.
	Lol.
	All right, Daniel Del Vale.
	Del Vale.
	Thank you.
	Danielle Lilvaldonated $69.
	Wait.
	When your daughter is on the corner selling Kooter because of you, remember it's all your fault.
	When she comes up missing because of that kind of work, remember it's you.
	That's if she doesn't jump before.
	Oh my jeez.
	In a video game.
	In a video game.
	Sorry.
	Don't modest donated $69.
	Brian, don't you dare.
	Can we please not ignore that Blonde said she would teach her offspring to be good attacks?
	Support them selling themselves how she does.
	It's textbook grooming.
	Rebuke.
	Rebuke?
	Rebuke her.
	Okay, that came through.
	We have another one.
	There's a bunch coming up.
	We've got about seven in the queue.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69.
	I'll ask my usual.
	He's perfect.
	Strong, handsome, rich.
	Takes you back to his place.
	Next to his bed.
	A fully loaded AR-15 rifle.
	You also discover a safe full of guns.
	Scary ones.
	Your reaction is.
	Your reaction.
	I take things.
	Wait.
	I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $69.
	My TTS, please.
	Getting to it right now.
	We'll answer that.
	There's a few more that need to come through.
	So, perfect guy, strong, handsome, rich, takes you back to his place next to his bed, a fully loaded AR-15.
	You also discover a safe full of guns, scary ones.
	What would be a scary gun?
	I don't know.
	An AR-15.
	Like what?
	I don't get it, but a closet full of guns.
	Maybe just disregard the scary gun, because I don't know.
	I feel like that kind of poisons the well a little bit.
	So your reaction.
	I'd take it.
	You gotta speak into the mic, please.
	I would take the gun and I would just disarm it and take.
	Do you know how to disarm a AR-15?
	That's the big one?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I go to guns for hire.
	Yeah, and I'd go to the shooting range.
	Oh, nice.
	With my brother, he's a Marine, so.
	Nice.
	I don't know the names of the guns.
	If you steal his rifle, after you stole his rifle, you would get it disarmed.
	No, if he was not being intimidating with it, is he like intimidating me with it?
	No, he's not intimidating with it.
	Yeah, I'd ask him why do you have that?
	And can you put the safety on and put it in the safe?
	And if he said no, I would take it.
	How would you know if he put the safety on?
	No, I would ask him to do it.
	If he was like, no, I didn't put the safety on.
	Yeah, but what does the safety on mean in context of an AR-15?
	How would you know if the safety was on?
	I guess that wouldn't.
	I guess I wouldn't.
	I would have to ask him to take the magazine out.
	So you would just have to trust him?
	No, I would have to ask him to take the magazine out, or I would have to.
	Oh, he takes the magazine out to store one in the chamber.
	There's no one in there.
	There's one in the chamber, anything?
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, how would you know if there was one in the chamber?
	Can you please put it away?
	And if you don't put it away, I'll disarm it.
	If not, then can we please go in the other room?
	In AR-15, what does that stand for, AR?
	I literally told you that I don't know the names of the guns.
	Assault rifle, automatic rifle.
	No, it doesn't stand for assault rifles.
	I have like an automatic one, and I held the magazine instead of holding the actual thing that you're supposed to hold.
	Yeah, it's embarrassing.
	Okay.
	Your answer?
	Oh, I'm answering?
	Yeah, we're going around the table.
	Oh, I mean, I would have vetted the man by the time I ever got to his house.
	So if he had the guns there, I knew what type of guy he was, and I was happy he had him there.
	Obviously, we needed him.
	Kind of the same answer just because I have been in that situation and I knew who the person was and why he had them.
	So it was perfectly chill.
	And he taught me how to shoot him.
	I'd be chill if it was as like, you know what she was saying, as long as he's not like intimidating with it.
	Okay, okay, hang on.
	I got to cut in briefly, just to the Russian gal.
	Can you say in Soviet Russia, you shoot guns?
	Can you just say that?
	Why would I do that for you?
	To be a submissive person.
	Because I asked super nicely.
	You were really nice to me.
	I don't really like to submit.
	Please say that because it's a great reference.
	What was I supposed to say?
	She's going to do it, boys.
	In Soviet Russia, right?
	Gun shoots you.
	Okay.
	See, you actually.
	You actually said it the other way, but okay.
	In Soviet Russia, a gun shoots you.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate it.
	So happy.
	I agree.
	Like, I would want my husband to know how to use guns.
	So by that time, I would have known him and what he's about.
	I honestly wouldn't mind it because my dad has guns already.
	Just also because of the line of work he was in.
	I grew up around it, so I wouldn't have minded I had.
	All right.
	Not really donated $69.
	Yes, I sent that as a joke, but also to stress a critical point.
	As a parent myself, I am genuinely concerned about how you are raising your children when you admit no morals and only selfish values.
	You want?
	Am I supposed to say something?
	If you want, you don't have to.
	First of all, Jeffrey Jennings donated $69.
	Andrew, remember the dirt bike you bought me for Christmas?
	Unfortunately, I never saw that bike.
	Cause I went in the hell as God decided to punish my parents for being bullies and judging people.
	What?
	Jeffrey Jennings?
	Uh-oh.
	Oh, I thought we froze there for a second.
	Not a communist donated $69.
	Blonde is 100,010% a clergy member at St. Baptist Church and specializes in epistemology of the abyssals.
	Iguana girl should be in one of those videos they show to kids on why drugs are bad.
	Who's the iguana girl?
	Iguana girl.
	Who's the iguana girl?
	I have no idea.
	Not a communist.
	Thank you.
	Someone donated $69.
	Thank you, Brian and Andrew.
	Aw, you're welcome.
	Someone, hey, thank you, man.
	Thank you for the TTS.
	Appreciate it.
	And then we have another one coming in.
	Stochastic Decay about to come in.
	Dude, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it, bro.
	Good to see you.
	Stochastic Decay donated $69.
	First thought when I saw Red, what a dummy.
	Why did she take so many Xanux?
	Little did I know.
	I'm the dummy for being on Zero Xanux and listening to this blonde talk.
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	For underscore the underscore patriarchy donated $69.
	Take it easy on the hook.
	She grew up attending St. Baptist Church II.
	Yeah, that's the same church Cindy goes to.
	Yeah.
	To respond to Stochastic Decay, look, I want to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're just tired from your airplane ride.
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm talking to you.
	Wow, the split is absolutely scuffed.
	I have absolutely no reason to lie to you.
	Well, hold on.
	People have plenty of reasons to lie.
	And if they were to lie, do you think they would be honest about no?
	But why would I come on a show and fly all the way here just to be on drugs?
	That makes no sense at all.
	You're not.
	Can you speak into the mic, please?
	Oh, I didn't know we were doing this live.
	I thought it was like.
	What?
	If I'm talking to the person, you can go fuck yourself because you don't know me.
	And all of you have no idea how my day went, what last night was like, what today was like.
	What was last night like?
	Then I took an airplane here.
	That was six hours.
	Well, that was this morning.
	My bag.
	That was yesterday morning.
	I haven't slept since then.
	I didn't go to bed.
	I packed.
	Then I got on a plane at 5 a.m.
	Then I got the plane boarded at 5.
	Then I got on the plane at 8.30.
	Then I've been on a plane.
	Then I got a rental car.
	Then I drove the rental car two and a half hours here.
	Then I got here, got ready in a car, and I haven't eaten anything since.
	And then I got here and I had some alcohol that I got poured.
	And I am extravagant.
	Hold on, just to be clear.
	Like, I don't know.
	Just to be clear, she brought, I want to make something clear.
	The girls are.
	The lawn next to you brought the alcohol.
	The alcohol was not provided by us.
	I want to make that very clear.
	To any viewers watching, we make it a rule, actually, that we don't provide any alcohol, but sometimes things are.
	But we don't provide alcohol for you guys because we don't want people.
	Oh, they got us drunk.
	And I said all this stuff, blah, And I might have made a wrong call by saying yes because I had nothing in my stomach.
	Well, you know, I'm tired, but I don't understand.
	But you were a little bit off even before you had a sip.
	Yeah.
	And you only had a sip, though.
	You had a couple sips.
	I don't know how to get it.
	I'm really tired.
	I made a point of drawing it.
	So it affects your body.
	If I told you that I had multiple people message me actually concerned over you, like, for example, somebody who's an EMT contacted me in the Instagram DMs and said something along the lines of, do you have any Narcan in the studio?
	We are concerned that she might OD.
	She just needs to sleep.
	I just really need it.
	Look, I want, again, I really understand.
	I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.
	I appreciate that.
	I really, really do.
	I really do.
	Have you made appearances on any other podcast or anything like that?
	No.
	Okay.
	Because I mean some people can have more laid-back personalities, I suppose you could say.
	For the first time meeting someone, it's weird to say that you're acting like different.
	Like if we were like friends and then like I acted different.
	For example, let me ask you a question.
	If you've never met somebody, but they seem like they're acting drunk.
	Do you think that like even though you don't know the person, you can still make a determination?
	Yeah, but if I knew the circumstances around like what you would agree with me, right?
	That if you never met the person at all, but you witnessed their behavior, you could maybe make some assumptions over there.
	And then if I asked them if they're drunk.
	If I asked them, and then they gave me an explanation, and then they have been fine ever since.
	I'm not trying to say this to you.
	We've been here for six hours.
	Well, yeah, but your conduct, I know it's late.
	I know you're tired.
	I know you're hungry, but you're, oh, okay, yeah.
	It's a trick.
	It's a trick.
	Drink that.
	It's a trick.
	I'm a mom.
	It's a trick.
	She's fine, but okay.
	I've totally been interrupted now.
	I forgot.
	Can somebody remind me what my last few words were?
	Your conduct has been the same.
	You've been here for six hours.
	You've been hungry.
	I know you're hungry.
	But she was like assaulting.
	Oh, right.
	I know.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so I'm not saying this to be insulting.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, Okay.
	So.
	Fuck, I just lost my train of thought again.
	She's tired.
	She hasn't.
	Okay, I'm not saying this to be insulting.
	Do you have a speech impediment?
	I do have.
	I can't breathe out of my nose.
	I can breathe out of one nostril.
	So I can't smell.
	If you farted right now, I'd have no idea.
	I'm not asking about your breathing.
	I'm asking if you have none.
	That makes me nasally.
	So I can't normally have normal.
	That could make him breathe.
	Like how you can breathe out in your nose and your mouth.
	I can only breathe out of my mouth.
	So I'm a mouth breather.
	You can see my gums are inflamed.
	I have doctor's notes if you need them.
	I don't need doctors notes.
	Look, I wasn't paying, like, hyper-focused attention to you during the show.
	There were a few points where I saw your eyes were...
	Yeah, I'm...
	Yeah.
	No, but at the beginning of the show, at the beginning of the show, you were, like, dozing off.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	You're what?
	I was sleeping six hours, and then I drove two and a half hours here.
	Did you sleep at all on the plane?
	No.
	And I worked the night before.
	And then I packed, and then I came here.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Like, I won't belabor it.
	And I booked the flight.
	It's like I paid for it and I paid for a rental car.
	I was like, I'm not going to not go.
	And if I'm a responsible adult, I'm a CEO.
	I have my own company.
	I wouldn't risk doing that and ruining my reputation.
	Sure.
	And talking about on here, I feel like it's very uncomfortable.
	It's very inappropriate.
	And it's very sad.
	What's sad or inappropriate?
	I was enjoying myself and having fun, and we already spoke about it, and I appreciated that you cared about it.
	And then to bring it up on the podcast instead of privately.
	Well, I mean, there's not really room for me to like private.
	Well, I don't, frankly, afterwards, I don't know.
	I mean, like, you shoved it off the path.
	They're literally, I had like a couple, like I had a nurse, I had an EMT private message me on Instagram saying, I'm concerned for her.
	She looks like she's something's going on.
	So I don't know.
	Maybe you're just tired.
	I'll give you the best.
	I'm not sure if it's that I'm abusing my children, so it appearances are something.
	I mean, it's a little different.
	Well, it is what it is.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We have another chat.
	I'm sorry that I cut you off there, Andrew.
	Do you want to go ahead with your point?
	Yeah, I was just saying how can you get mad kind of out of both sides of the mouth?
	So the one says, we are too overly concerned, and the other one says you're not concerned enough.
	So the thing is, is remember, remember earlier in the podcast, I was like, grab an energy drink, you'll feel better.
	It's not a beat up on you.
	It's just that I've flown out from the other side of the country to be in person on that podcast.
	And I know what Jet Lag will do and kind of the sleepless nights kind of thing.
	So hang on.
	It's just, from his perspective, it's just concerning.
	That's all.
	And I appreciate it.
	He said thank you.
	I said thank you to you and to him and to anyone who wanted to DM me.
	You could DM me on my actual Instagram as well.
	If you wanted to contact me directly, that would probably be more sufficient than contacting someone that I just met today.
	But as I said, I'm a smart, intelligent girl, and coming here, spending money to come here and doing that would just be silly, dumb, and frankly, just stupid.
	But I appreciate all of you guys caring.
	And it's just uncomfortable.
	And I have one last question $100.
	A loaded AR-15 can't shoot you any more than Brian can kiss anyone on his panel.
	That's fair enough.
	I just had a quick question for you.
	Well, Ben George, you're right.
	Can you say, all right, Like Matthew McConaughey.
	All right, thank you.
	Can you say that?
	The youngest Corgrench donated $69.
	Thank you, Grinch.
	Appreciate it.
	What's the question?
	Can I say what now?
	Toy boat, five times fast.
	Toy boat?
	Toy boat.
	Yeah, toy boat, No way.
	Toy boat, toy boat, toy boy.
	You can't do it, Mr. Puller.
	Let's try it.
	Orders from the Grand Inquisitor.
	Miss K, you are based in Superfit.
	The Inquisition Patriarchy requests your services to get Fat Body Brian into shape and get him to mail the blue-white cups.
	I can help you out.
	Let me know what you need.
	I gotta lose weight.
	I could give you four times.
	I kind of want to hear the toy boat thing.
	Can you do it five times fast?
	Toy boat, toy boat.
	No, I can't.
	Toy boat.
	No, I can't.
	Toy boat, toy boat, toy boy.
	No, I don't.
	Andrew, you won.
	I've never seen anybody do it that well.
	Do you practice that?
	Like, what are you doing?
	What's your magic?
	I go to the mirror every morning and I say toy boat over and over and over again just in case it ever comes up on a random podcast.
	That way, can I just give you a comment?
	Can I roast you really quick?
	Can I roast you, Andrew?
	Yeah, but only if I get to roast you back.
	Yeah, you can't.
	Fair.
	Fair.
	I gotta tell you, like, I don't often meet another human who has as wide of a base of knowledge as you to actually be fact-checking me.
	And I gotta tell you, it's super awesome that you are that learned of things.
	And you obviously have still more of the biblical and religious worldview, which is okay because I have an understanding of that.
	But all I'm saying is, I can so much more easily bullshit the average person because they don't have a wide enough span of knowledge about anything in life to actually engage me properly.
	And you know, I'm-Epistemology means the study of the epistles.
	Right, but you gotta figure it out the average person is so dumb that would fly, right?
	I'm just real talking to you.
	I don't know.
	So, I totally agree with you.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, so you have to understand.
	That was part of my aggression.
	Was like, I was just like, okay.
	Oh, shit.
	Usually I can just flow with it, and I know enough of the basic information of what I'm saying, and I can deliver it in a way that sounds intelligent enough that people just buy it.
	And you know what?
	That was my ego.
	That was my ego raising up.
	Like, oh, shit.
	This guy knows his shit.
	I have to switch in.
	See this big pimple that's right here on this enormous forehead?
	Let's stick with the roasting instead of the surprise.
	I like to surprise you.
	You're happy with the massive pimple on the head.
	I didn't see it.
	I don't see it because you know what?
	I don't see skin color and religion.
	No, I'm saying I see it in the sense that we all have to, we come up with these labels and these stereotypes just based on we're trying to make some sense of everything.
	That's all.
	But I connect soul to soul, heart to heart.
	I don't see pimples at all.
	I mean, if it's a, I had one right here.
	I popped it on the way here because I was like, oh my god, it's getting white.
	It's fucking disgusting.
	It's here.
	I have one too.
	I'm not perfect.
	And you told me I'm only a four or whatever I am.
	I'm not even an age.
	You are alone in the woods.
	Would you rather be with a random man, random bear, or Putin riding a bear?
	Oh my gosh.
	Wait, what?
	Putin riding a bear?
	I would prefer just the random bear because I like to cuddle with bears.
	What?
	What the hell?
	We had a lot of.
	No, we had a lot of bears and someone just got killed not too long ago.
	Okay, in California, once in the wild, that happens.
	In that village in Russia, we saw bears passing by all the time.
	I cuddled with them.
	Literally cuddled with them.
	While I saw a drunk man passed out on the side.
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	Max, max, max, Ma, uh-uh, asks get back here.
	Wow.
	What is that?
	What was that?
	I don't understand.
	What is Max?
	That was.
	Can we get a sprinkler?
	Can we get a sprinkler, please?
	And Madison needs at least one roast.
	She's getting a big, big one.
	Anon donated $69.
	Shout out to Andrew.
	Even when he disagreed with what someone said, he spoke up for the mount when he felt a line was being crossed.
	That is what a real man does.
	Exactly.
	That was classy as fuck.
	Mad respect.
	For real.
	Respect.
	Yeah.
	Mad respect.
	Shout out to Andrew.
	That was crazy.
	Can you roast the fucking pimple?
	Can he do the pimple?
	I mean, it's the first time.
	How old are you?
	Huge brain.
	How old are you?
	You see what I'm saying about the big brain, though?
	It's a fucking curse, you guys.
	We know too fucking much.
	It's rough when you start to know a certain amount of knowledge, right, Andrew?
	You start to get a little bit more.
	Well, I mean, it's rough for me.
	I'm not convinced that you know a certain amount of it, but I am convinced that I do.
	But okay, and I'm convinced that you did.
	I'm convinced that you know your shit super well.
	All I'm asking is the grace to maybe open a corner of your mind to the fact that I understand a different realm of the world.
	And that realm of the world, I know my shit.
	So I'm very confident about that.
	And for most.
	Hang on.
	To quote a great atheist debater, apparently a great atheist debater.
	I remain unconvinced.
	Christopher Hitchens.
	Okay, I'm still roasting you.
	Matt Dilla Hunty.
	The roast was.
	You're still roasting me.
	Hit me.
	Give me.
	The roast was.
	We're not so different.
	We're not so different.
	And judging by what everybody said to me today, I mean, that's a roast.
	They already said it to me.
	I don't need to dump the trauma back onto you.
	You can just read the list of everything that was said to me.
	And all I'm saying is, sir, we're not that much different.
	Different vernacular, different color, sex, whatever you want to say, different stories, but not that different.
	I remain unconvinced.
	I agree with you.
	I just gave you all the trauma that I had to hear from everybody.
	I put it back on you.
	You're a terrible parent abusing your children with your spankings and your purity culture.
	Purity culture, by the way, they're starting to do the studies now, girls.
	I was in the hardcore purity culture where my whole body is.
	I'm telling you, it's causing way much more harm than being aware of that.
	No, trust me, girl.
	Trust me, girl.
	I was the opposite.
	I went the opposite.
	I started out.
	I didn't even date in college.
	This is how I ended up with an idiot first husband.
	I didn't even date.
	I just need you to understand that I'm not a Puritan.
	No, I know.
	I don't know where he is.
	I'm just simply trying to give people perspective of so much of our worldview and our beliefs are developed from the experiences we have, which are very different.
	I just sleep with whoever I want to sleep with because I think it's fun.
	Don't you think that maybe there's a balancing act there?
	But here's the thing.
	It's just like a kid when they're little and we take them trick-or-treating and they have the whole bag of Halloween candy.
	We gotta let them go through those few years where they make themselves fucking sick.
	Not likely.
	But I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
	But they start and say, you guide them, you guide them, but they still sneak it.
	You're a parent.
	You know how it goes.
	No matter what, somebody's throwing up until they're like nine at least.
	Okay, and then they start to understand.
	You know what?
	I'm just going to eat my favorite pieces.
	So let's compromise.
	So hang on, let's compromise here.
	Can we compromise between it's possible that my kids sneak candy on Halloween without me knowing that they do it?
	With my mom has jizz on her face on her Instagram where I compromise between the two of those.
	Here's the connection.
	Here's the connection.
	I will make the connection.
	My kids are going to public elementary school with these current agendas and they're having to hear all of these weird messages about body parts and this and that.
	Also, the sexual harassment and the molestation stuff starts very young.
	I'm just saying.
	Shut up.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Hold on.
	What are we even talking about?
	First off, you got a second winner.
	You do not teach a child real shit these days.
	Somebody else is going to teach it to them one way or the other and they're not going to know what is going on.
	You're teaching them something that's based off feelings and just no, I'm not.
	I'm teaching my kids about body autonomy, about not attaching shame to their genitals, not being afraid to be a woman, not being jizz all over your face with my kids don't see my Instagram.
	They don't have phones.
	That is for an adult contact me.
	Not yet.
	Okay, but even when they do, I can explain.
	They know my weird sense of humor.
	They know my weird sense of humor.
	I can explain it.
	My kids know I'm weird.
	Most people probably don't buy it.
	They're just being nice because you're crazy, or they just want to bang.
	There's four more coming through right now.
	Hold on, boys.
	Hold on.
	They need to.
	Thank you, old man.
	Thank you.
	There's such a underscore patriarchy donated $69.
	Kay's eye rolls when her BS detector is going off is based.
	But I could still never date her until she cut off Corey.
	To the hooker, another facial will remove that pimple.
	It's probably true.
	It's actually true.
	It's very healthy for you.
	A lot of protein.
	Your wife has juice, too.
	It's a magic regularly.
	Kay, we are so sad we missed your takedown.
	Brian, drop down and give me 30 sit-ups right now.
	Let's go.
	Let me see that.
	Belly roll.
	One tubby tubby, come on, pork chop.
	Two tubby tubby, major pain.
	You remember that movie I don't remember what it was where they were like he flips the chicken coin, he goes have a rat knock off your face, ripped.
	RICH AND RARE, donated 69 dollars.
	Fat boy, burger KING eating Andrew, has more problems than a pimple.
	Fat boy has crossed over gender barriers by growing bigger tits than all the girls on the panel.
	Big old tits titties tits, titties.
	Let's go running.
	Uh yo Daniel, I see your tts come in.
	Man, it's like I said we do.
	Uh, I try not to.
	Uh, it's a little, it's a little too much.
	Man, i'm now leading a one ice, a little too much.
	How are you gonna do that to us?
	Are you sure you want to hear it?
	Can we generalize it so it's not like personally attached to target.
	It is targeted towards you.
	Well, go ahead then bring it already crowd.
	If you have a question, bring it, go ahead.
	I'm sorry Daniel, but we do reserve the right to not show it, and I mean it.
	This is probably a little, a little tos.
	So i'm sorry Daniel, I can't uh play it.
	If you uh, if you dm me something a little more polite to my instagram directly within the next uh, few minutes.
	I'll just read something else.
	You'll have to send me a dm message, tone it down a notch.
	He's saying, tone it.
	You can send something else, but I can't read it.
	I apologize.
	I appreciate your tts though, or your message anyways.
	Uh oh Maddie, you got something, you got a question, and then we're gonna wrap up.
	Guys, this game it's going around the table.
	Do you think that body count matters, starting with you?
	No, I don't think body count matters, but I think soul count matters.
	All right um, can you explain?
	Explain that.
	Yes, you see, a lot of people are engaging in the act of sex because there's another person there, but essentially it's a self-centered, just kind of mutual masturbation situation where basically, I could use a man like a dildo, like a casual thing.
	I don't have a connection with you, you know, it could be like that and in that sense, who cares?
	Like humans are humans, we do weird things, we go through adolescence, there's experimentation, whatever.
	But I believe that it's a very serious matter when you create a soul connection with somebody and then engage in the sexual relationship, that's a different mat.
	Yeah, you really can trust me girl, you can really separate it and I that is.
	That is the thing, is I no longer have those masturbation type of situations?
	It has to be a soul connection in a sense.
	I'm taking responsibility for whatever comes used to them in that very vulnerable situation.
	And I take that very seriously.
	They are willing to pay your rent.
	Is that correct?
	But I would only get to ever that level of ever being sexual with a man.
	In a sense, I'm saying, let me know more of you.
	And I'm in a sense deciding when I am agreeing to sleep with a man.
	If Nick back there offered you $10,000 to fuck tonight, no, no.
	I mean, but I will tell you this.
	I will tell you this.
	I will tell you this.
	I would tell you this.
	I got a good sense about him as a person.
	He was very respectful to me.
	He's attractive.
	He's tall.
	All of these things.
	So, what I would do is say, let's get to know each other a little bit better.
	I'm not saying yes.
	I'm not saying no.
	I'm saying I need to know you a little bit better.
	I'm going to ask you your honest take on something.
	Yeah.
	Let us assume for a second that there was a man who was interested in two women and both of them had had sex with 50 men.
	The first one goes to him and says, Look, I had sex with 50 men and it meant nothing.
	And the second one goes to him and said, Look, I had sex with 50 men and I only had a soul bond with 25 of them.
	Do you think that he would perceive it any differently between the two?
	I have no idea his worldview or spiritual beliefs about things.
	So I can't answer that because everybody honestly looks at these things differently.
	From what I know out here, the average man, honestly, you guys, do you want the real answer or do you want to argue with me?
	Because there's no point.
	The real answer is a man will say he wants this virginal, innocent thing, but then he gets with her and she doesn't know what she's doing.
	She's not comfortable with her body.
	She doesn't really, she just hasn't put the time in.
	She hasn't put the work in.
	You guys, hold on.
	Wait.
	Good sex is a craft.
	You develop it over time.
	It's not just this.
	My wedding night, you guys, I cried.
	It was painful.
	I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
	He didn't know what the fuck he was doing.
	But this is real talk.
	I was in the churches getting the phone calls from the girls on their wedding night who were sold this bill of goods crying.
	Why did they lie to us?
	Why did they lie to us?
	Not everybody.
	That's a lot of girls.
	It was a lot of girls, guys.
	Not everybody.
	I get it, but that's a little bit of a problem.
	Let's just say a man who took advantage of a woman.
	Can you say that that woman can just like an issue getting into a relationship because of how many people I've slept with?
	I don't even know.
	So it never even comes up.
	Am I going to ask the man how many have you slept with?
	I don't give a shit.
	I care about who they are here and now.
	The past doesn't even exist anymore.
	It literally doesn't exist.
	All that exists is right now.
	But if you believe everything is so vibrational, don't you think that when you're having sex, the vibrations are like, yes, and that's why I'm extremely cautious with who I would ever have sex with.
	I think you're having this idea that I'm just going out fucking whoever.
	I don't.
	You made it.
	I can.
	I'm sorry that I come across aggressive because I know you've come out like you called yourself a prostitute.
	We got to move it on.
	Hang on.
	I just want to ask this one last question.
	Honestly, as truth is your highest value, which I do respect at least that, right?
	Truth is your highest value.
	Did a single woman of the church actually call you and say she was having trouble because she was a virgin on her wedding night?
	Yes, these were my friends.
	Yes, they were crying.
	They were brutal.
	Her name is Ash Garcia.
	She's a public figure.
	You can pause out in New York.
	I don't know if she would feel comfortable with me sharing this.
	But that's one off the top.
	Yeah.
	I gave you her maiden name.
	She has a different last name now, so it could cover the idea.
	Can you provide a single shred of evidence that a single woman who was a virgin on a wedding night in a church called you and cried to you because she was upset she was a virgin on her wedding night.
	A single shred.
	Have you ever been a woman and had sex the first time?
	Do you know what it feels like?
	Do you know what it feels like?
	Do you know what it feels like to have a vagina and have for the first time in your life because you were told that tampons?
	I get upset because of the ignorance.
	We have families out here.
	I understand that there's intelligent ways to take the purity culture and all that.
	But a lot of families are running with this in the wrong direction.
	And we have girls out here who've never even inserted a tampon.
	And now it's their wedding night.
	And it is not a good thing.
	I mean, experiencing it like a rain.
	I'm telling you.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	But hold on.
	That is equivalent to anybody losing their virginity, not just on their marriage night.
	I don't know any women who got to the tampon.
	I just gave you a name.
	I just gave you a name, not to mention myself, not to mention all of the hundreds of women who came through my counting.
	The difference between them and the night you lose your virginity outside of marriage.
	It's the same.
	When I lost my virginity, it was very painful.
	What are we talking about?
	I was very happy.
	I was very happy.
	Okay, soul count matters.
	Next person.
	Cool.
	We got moved on.
	I'll get the TTS in just a sec, guys.
	Okay, I do think that the body count matters, but only to kind of see where the other person's experiences are at and what to expect from them.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	I'm not.
	I'm just.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Yes.
	I used to like.
	It used to matter to me.
	It doesn't anymore.
	Well, I guess it's fine.
	100% it matters.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	It definitely matters.
	Word.
	Maddie.
	Yeah.
	Your follow-up question, Maddie.
	Go ahead.
	Should we wait till she gets back?
	Shit.
	Oh, she's coming back.
	She's coming back.
	Hey.
	Wait for you.
	Get over here.
	Quick.
	Come on.
	Come on, hustle.
	Quick, quick.
	You're good.
	You got it.
	Okay.
	That's a cute outfit.
	I like the shirt.
	Wait, did you change again?
	No.
	Oh, that's the, okay.
	So, go ahead.
	What's everybody's body count?
	Starting with you.
	A real one or my fake one.
	The real one.
	I'm totally kidding.
	Seven.
	I would like to get.
	I'm six, of course.
	No, seven.
	I would like to get married with all of my ten fingers.
	I would like to be able to count everyone I had sex with all my fingers.
	That's good.
	And I was in a relationship for 13 years, so 10.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Well, my dad pushed me out of the door at 13 and told me, he essentially gave me the talk and told me that.
	Just tell me what the body count is.
	Can you just tell me?
	So I lost my virginity when I was 13.
	I'm now 30.
	It matters.
	I'm just simply trying to do the math.
	I'm trying to.
	50 to 100.
	Did you lose your virginity?
	And I have no idea.
	I have two people.
	I lost my virginity at 13.
	I lost my virginity at 13.
	I had sex with a few guys when I was a teenager.
	I got married at, I went celibate.
	I got married at 25 to 33.
	One guy.
	Hey, what was the range?
	Give us the range.
	I said possibly 50 to 100.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No, that's it.
	There's a period.
	There's something called a period.
	Period.
	Okay.
	Somewhere between eight and ten.
	Okay.
	Um, I'd rather not say.
	Wait, hold on.
	I thought you said body count doesn't matter.
	It doesn't, but like, I don't know why everyone has to know my how about this.
	Do you want to give a range?
	Well, it's at least it's at least one because I've had a boyfriend.
	Oh, that means you want to give an actual range.
	Like it's like five to ten.
	Yeah, it's around five to ten.
	Ten to twelve, twenty five to ten.
	Okay.
	All right, that's fair.
	Unfortunately, I've been sexually or sexual with about ten or twelve people.
	Oh, okay.
	Now, hang on, hang on.
	You strike me as the type of person.
	Just saying, you strike me as the type of person who knows exactly how many.
	How many?
	Well, ten, like actual the whole intercourse, but then like two where we just counting blowjays.
	Oh, okay.
	I think blowjays.
	I count.
	Well, yeah, I guess.
	Four.
	I've been in two relationships.
	I had one situation shit for like eight years.
	That's a long time.
	It's under 10.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was going to say, I think that's all the ones that are down.
	Okay.
	Oh, no, no.
	Okay.
	Wait, so.
	Was there a back and forth here?
	I forgot what.
	No, you just wanted to stop talking.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	We'll do the last few TTS.
	Guys, if you want to get the last-minute TTS and we're going to wrap up here soon, then we're going to do a Ray to Andrew.
	All right.
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	No, trust me, girl.
	Crazy how Blondie is asking you to trust her after she just admitted to being a manipulative bimbo.
	Every time she opens her mouth, BS spews out.
	Over seven hours of this suffering.
	What was that in like the struggle sessions?
	Cajun Ninja donated $69.
	That must be a 100,000 subscriber pimple.
	Congrats on finally breaking out.
	Oh, did you hit?
	Andrew, did you hit?
	Congratulations.
	Let me look at it.
	No, not quite.
	Not quite.
	I'm 5,000 subs away.
	Oh, okay.
	It's close.
	It's very close.
	Maybe we can.
	I don't know if it'll happen tonight.
	Nesta $718 donated $69.
	To the panel, can you mention three countries of the world?
	Name three countries.
	Go.
	North America.
	Yeah.
	America.
	Yeah.
	Africa.
	That's our continent.
	Those are continents.
	I'm going to give you a mole again.
	Go ahead.
	Nigeria, Egypt, and North America.
	Speaking to the night.
	North America, Nigeria, and India.
	Well, good job.
	Three countries.
	Poland, Germany, Switzerland, Russia, Ukraine, and Japan.
	Mexico, Spain, and Australia.
	Brazil, China, United States.
	Nepal, Romania, Brazil, Thailand, Laos, Portugal.
	One small correction.
	Australia is not real.
	Oh, that was me.
	Okay, true, true.
	I like your science.
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	Spring Clesby like.
	Oh.
	Oh, this is new.
	Transmote voting.
	Case teeters behind.
	Why?
	Somebody wants to motorize.
	You motor-boded son of a bitch.
	You two towels.
	What's that thing from Wedding Crashers?
	Good movie, Vince Fawn.
	Oh, that's a good movie.
	Good movie.
	He's a brave and a decent man.
	He's a pioneer.
	Boom.
	Okay.
	Wait, hold on.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see.
	Where were we?
	I forgot where we were.
	Are we rating homeboy?
	No, no.
	I'm just.
	There was one last note I wanted to.
	Any final thoughts from anybody before we wrap the show up?
	Yeah, I got some sh- I'm just kidding.
	Thank you, John.
	Well, I would like to extend my thanks to the entire panel, including whatever, for having the Crucible on and hosting us again.
	Very kind of you.
	Highly recommend The Crucible to throw in the last-minute chats towards Brian for the Rose section.
	And also to the entire panel.
	Thank you guys for coming out.
	I know that these debates can be very contentious.
	I hold no ill will whatsoever.
	Same.
	I have a pleasure.
	I love you as much as I love myself.
	Married 32 years, donated $69.
	Another relationship coach who doesn't know crap about how to maintain a long-term relationship, or that men don't marry sluts.
	I am my wife's third body.
	How many failed relationships have you had?
	Oh, exactly.
	Yeah, I think that's to you.
	A failed relate.
	Well, I've really, to be honest with you, I've never been one to have boyfriends.
	Crippling depression donated $69.
	Blondie seems to be the type of person who will be left to rot in a nursing home, wondering why her kids hate her after they abandon her for grooming and causing them a life of depression and misery.
	Anyways, thing about the bears and the bears.
	I learned the rules of this game.
	I got it.
	Okay, so I got a message via Instagram for the guy who I would introduce for.
	I think this is him.
	Maybe you could be an imposer.
	Wait.
	Was somebody going to carpool with you?
	I'm a little confused.
	Carpool?
	I don't know.
	Somebody sent me a message.
	I don't know.
	I drove my message.
	Anyways, he says, Can you ask Blondie why she is so cool with.
	Oh my god.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me make sure I read this first.
	Well, directly.
	I like that I'm Blondie, though.
	At least we know.
	I mean, because I was always wondering, is it you?
	Is it me?
	You're red, I think.
	You're red.
	I'm Blondie.
	I don't have a name.
	I'm red, but.
	Or D. Some people know your name.
	Daniel, just.
	Just bring him.
	Okay.
	Why are you so cool with embarrassing your children in the future?
	My kids are actually not embarrassed by it because we have a very positive stuff, I guess.
	Do you worry about the movie fans embarrassing yourself?
	No, because they, in a sense, at their age category, they know in a sense what I do in an age-appropriate way.
	So, for example, my son's 11, and he understands I'm a model, and it's sexy stuff that would not be appropriate for him to see or be in the house.
	You know, he gets it.
	He's out there.
	These kids are seeing stuff.
	Whatever.
	What about when he's wondering about what about when he's 17?
	That's fine because I can be able to have.
	I don't have this taboo with the sex, you guys.
	It's just part of life in our household.
	You don't think that they'll be ashamed?
	No, they don't have shame attached to their sexuality.
	Haven't raised them that way, you guys.
	They haven't been raised.
	You haven't seen them otherwise.
	Hang on.
	What if you're not?
	I don't raise my kids to live by the social norms of other people.
	Look at this.
	We have our own views.
	We have our own culture.
	It's a different culture.
	It's all over your face.
	Inside our culture.
	And in our family, we have a different culture that works for us.
	Well, but it works for us.
	But then it works for you.
	It doesn't work.
	Here, let me repeat the question.
	It doesn't work.
	My kids are the smartest fucking kids you will ever meet in your life.
	I'll tell you that because I've never bullshitted them.
	Just because you tell yourself that.
	So they're going to listen.
	He's 17 years old.
	He comes to you and he's like, Mom, look at this picture of you with, you know, let me finish.
	He says, look at this picture of you with Mogurt all over your face.
	What the fuck?
	Kids are bullying me.
	Mom, we have a picture of Mogurt.
	My son will not be getting bullied by the fucking kids at school, okay?
	You gotta meet the kid and you'll understand.
	The kid already, you're thinking that my kids are typical kids.
	I can't.
	These are fucking sandwiches.
	No, that's they cuss.
	They put people in their place.
	Yes.
	They will come home and say, guess what that fucking bitch did, mom.
	No.
	And you know what?
	I'm like, that was a fucking bitch.
	I'm going to pray for your kids because that is really sad.
	Pray for them because they are empowered.
	They have a lot of people.
	Every time somebody has been inappropriate with them, they either put them in their place themselves, they tell it on, they tell me, and we handle shit.
	You don't think that we handle it?
	They're going to start talking to everybody they come across.
	I have guided them and taught them how to absolutely.
	Well, the way you talk to Brian is how your kids are going to talk to people too.
	We met that in a bad, just no different than Brian popped off for a second and said something inappropriate.
	They're 11 years old.
	And guess what?
	They need to learn how to manage their language.
	Well, how are you going to do it?
	You're not even literally murdered.
	You're labeling them.
	I'm shouting by example.
	We are not allowed to disrespect people, but we are a bitch is not disrespectful.
	But she's not saying it to the person's face.
	She's coming home.
	So she's being fake.
	How do you know that, though?
	You don't know that.
	How do I not know?
	Do you think if my daughter wants to know, or do you know?
	Because I'm not getting called by the school.
	I would be getting called by those people.
	I don't get called by the school doesn't mean something happens in private.
	So if my daughter says a cuss word to somebody in private, that's something I need to worry about.
	So if your daughter is in the middle of the past, I cuss my whole life in private.
	If your daughter at 18 years old, no, 16 years old is starting to push up on Instagram.
	2024.
	It makes it harder.
	It's okay for your child to be a rascal.
	That's where we're at.
	I'm a child abuser because I let my kids get it.
	You're at selfies for that.
	You're a self-before.
	It's weird as shit to me.
	Do you understand that language is different?
	Okay, maybe not the language, but what about everything else?
	Can you?
	I don't live in your culture.
	I don't live in your culture.
	It is reality.
	You're ignorant to think that it's okay for your children to be masturbating, to be doing this and this and that.
	Do you know in Germany, there is a full nude.
	This is an user, and I don't feel bad for those people.
	On the front of your face, I want you to open up your mind to what they're doing to you.
	Get the newspaper with a nude model on the front page.
	The kids don't give a shit.
	Then we don't really care.
	They really then.
	If the United States is too big.
	Get the beautiful woman.
	She's naked.
	What the new?
	Let's go take a shit.
	Nobody cares.
	What is that?
	Why do we yell when you can just have a simple discussion?
	That's good.
	These one, the chats, just I don't feel bad for them anymore because you need to realize what's going on.
	This is your children.
	If there's no children involved, all right, do what you gotta do.
	Like, we're all broken in different ways.
	Children are involved.
	Like, that is disgusting.
	You're just as bad as the kids or the adults that are chopping off the genitalia of these kids.
	You're grooming them to be sexual.
	Wait, okay, hold on.
	God groomed them to be sexual insane.
	At what point would it be appropriate for a motherfucker?
	I did apologize to her.
	I think it wasn't recorded.
	No apologies and continue.
	Be 330.
	I apologize.
	But it wasn't on camera.
	I apologized before we went live again after we had to restart the stream.
	Paincakes donated $69.
	Sending this as a support comment to Brian and Andrew.
	Also, those poor children.
	For real, dude.
	That's really what gets me worked-up issues.
	They're innocent children that are being guys.
	Let's not.
	Let's not.
	I'm sorry.
	We should not bring children into the dating podcast.
	Isn't that what it's about?
	It was on her Instagram.
	I don't think we're going to change her mind.
	For underscore the underscores.
	But it's still a trick.
	What do you tell the class when it's career day at school?
	Oh, yeah.
	Should bring Dillon.
	What did you say?
	What does the hooker do?
	What do you tell the class when it's career day at school?
	You bring a laptop and a dilute.
	What?
	It's okay.
	I'm afraid I can already see you.
	That's true.
	It's time, Meg.
	I'm a self-help author.
	I just tell them I'm an author.
	I go.
	I'm taking back my retraction about the joke.
	CPS is on its way, blonde.
	Any home we place your children in will be better than the home you are raising them in.
	Well, good luck with your little snowflakes living out here in the real fucking world, guys.
	Hate to break it to you.
	It's a cold world out there.
	You're creating a bunch of children who don't tell you what's really going on in their lives.
	That's what you're doing.
	This is not a cold.
	If your kids spoke up like that to people I know, they'd get a bat to the back of the head.
	You're teaching them to be shitty people.
	Abdul.
	And you're teaching them that it's okay to get cheat.
	Yeah, get the rocks.
	Get the rocks.
	Okay, get beat.
	Why would you?
	He just, I have heard people talk about belt beating a child, smacking them on the back of the head, and all these sort of physical things.
	And you're calling it discipline and blah, blah, blah.
	It's physical abuse.
	Call it whatever the fuck you want.
	Yeah, cool.
	Depends on where you live.
	What's wrong with taking a belt to a kid?
	Whoa, Andrew, hold on.
	What's wrong with letting a kid come to me?
	This is what happens when you belt a kid, by the way.
	So if you want to belt a kid, wait, what are the children to me?
	Stop, Guys, you guys are way too loud.
	Stop.
	Lower the volume.
	Hold on.
	Shut up, guys.
	Shut up.
	That's tall of you, not directed in any direction.
	So it mitigates the shut up.
	If it's a general shut up, it's to the whole panel.
	Okay, we've got to lower the volume if we are going to talk a little bit here.
	Andrew was saying in a video game, it's okay to do that in a video game.
	Oh, in a video game.
	But only in a video.
	What video games?
	One of those.
	You know, though, disavow, by the way.
	I disavow.
	You know, one of those really thick dad leather belts.
	That's the only appropriate belt.
	Stop doing your game.
	Andrew, I'm trying to disappear.
	Well, Andrew also wants to discipline crazy things that you like.
	I really like you.
	I like what you have to say.
	I like that.
	Off the rails.
	And I like that.
	I've been belted.
	That's the key.
	I wasn't abuser.
	And the pain plan.
	There's abuse.
	I said it earlier.
	If my husband was abusing my children, it's order.
	The discipline abuse is no different.
	Hide that shit, Nick.
	Hide that shit.
	Oh, he has to jabble.
	I don't discipline.
	Shut the fuck.
	No, no, there's no.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Dumb it.
	Not everybody knows.
	Okay, guys.
	Like, actually, like, just listen.
	Listen up, bros.
	God damn, y'all are.
	Y'all are late.
	We're out here.
	We are hungry.
	You did it.
	Bring us.
	Zip it.
	Zip it.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Y'all feral as fuck.
	This is the most fucking feral pod.
	This is one of the most feral podcasts I've had, bro.
	We got this is this is the fucking.
	I'm going to call this the rabies episode.
	Call me apocalypse.
	Bro, y'all.
	Foaming at the fucking mouth.
	28 days.
	Foaming at the fucking mouth.
	Some feral.
	Round zero.
	Round zero.
	We're taking down the patriarchy, bitches.
	I'm just kidding.
	I gotta play into it.
	You guys, I'm the villain now.
	I just gotta, I gotta play the ball.
	I don't play the villain or the villain.
	I can't laugh out.
	I'm going to re-up.
	I'm going to.
	Wait, stop, stop, stop.
	I'm going to re-up.
	I'm going to re-up this.
	So, are you coming back on the show?
	With you to speak to you?
	Sure.
	What's the structure going to be?
	The same shit.
	We just talk about what's not as toxic, though.
	Is Andrew going to be here?
	Maybe.
	Only if Andrew's here.
	There's just not that many people who can fucking fact-check me, and I need that shit.
	I really do, you guys.
	Everybody does.
	I'm just fact-checking you the way.
	I need the fact-checking.
	You have to understand.
	Andrew, you know, I'm trying to be respectful.
	They are ignorant of a lot of things in culture.
	You are.
	I'm talking about cross-culturally.
	Cross-culturally and all that.
	But I believe you at least have an awareness of.
	Real shit.
	Something special.
	And you'll probably go to bed at night and rethink over a couple fucking things I said.
	As long as Brian will have me back.
	I can already tell that I don't like you.
	I like Brian.
	He sets the boundaries.
	I like Andrew.
	He calls people out on their shit.
	It's good.
	Anon donated $69.
	Okay, we got it.
	This isn't a parent taking a bat to a kid you abysmal tout.
	Your kids will grow up to speak to people who don't have to take their hook amount shit.
	Plenty of people don't tolerate that shit.
	Grow up.
	On the body count thing, Anon, thank for the message.
	Someone said, like, well, you know, these women, they're going to disappoint their man if they don't have experience.
	So there's a couple components here.
	First off, if you're a guy and you have more sexual experience than the woman, women tend to look towards men to lead them in various ways in the relationship, in the bedroom, whatever it is.
	So as a guy, you can take a woman who has little or even no sexual experience and you can have fantastic sex with her.
	As long as she's comfortable with her body and all that.
	Right?
	Yes.
	Right?
	Okay, but the point I'm trying to make is: I don't think we should be.
	Because I've had women who've come on the show and they were perhaps a little naive and they said, well, don't, and this is like, I think something women will tell other women in an effort to also get their friends and peers to make the same mistakes they did by being promiscuous.
	But I've had girls come on the show and say, you know, not like coping because they have a high body count, but like they're more on the naive end of it where they're like, but I thought, wait, don't guys prefer like girls who are like really sexually experienced and can rock their world and are really good in bed?
	And I just want to do like a call to stop.
	I want to do just a call to action.
	If there are any women who are feeling pressured by other women or other men to be promiscuous or to have casual sex, so that in this warped worldview, so that you can become better in bed because they're telling you that that's what guys want.
	I can guarantee you that the guy that actually likes you, he's going to absolutely disregard your lack of experience in the bedroom.
	If he really cares about you, he's going to take his time.
	He's going to be gentle.
	He's going to be patient.
	And don't like if you're getting pressured to just like sleep around so you can get experienced.
	Don't guys like that?
	Don't guys like no.
	If a guy really likes you, if you don't give the best blow job, if you need him to show you how to, you know, do a certain position.
	Like, what?
	Why are you fucking laughing at me?
	What the fuck?
	You're going like so hard into detail about this.
	No, I'm just put you on the side and lift up your legs.
	It's like, damn.
	First off, I think.
	You arrive at the point.
	A lot of guys will actually perhaps enjoy that component, like perhaps if you're less experienced.
	And then a guy who's actually worth his salt, who's going to be a good partner to you, who's going to, this is going to sound fucking corny, who's going to cherish you, who's going to love you, whatever.
	It's not going to fucking matter.
	So don't get pressured into fucking being a fucking strumpet.
	Yeah, let's stop it.
	For this fucking fake news shit.
	Oh, you got to be sexually experienced.
	Nah, man.
	You know, like, oh, anyways, what?
	No, no, go on.
	I'm on the plane.
	I'm on the fucking plane.
	Okay, that's it.
	I'm low experience and they're not.
	What?
	Does it gross you?
	Does it gross you actually knowing that someone has a high body count and it makes you not want to touch them?
	There's a lot of guys that don't know what they're doing at all.
	They've had sex with tons of people.
	And apparently, I feel like low-value men don't care about high-value men.
	Nobody's correct.
	Do you guys know what an A-spot is?
	Actually, I think it's the opposite from a large voice.
	Any guy know what an A-spot is?
	I mean, look.
	It's kind of important.
	I don't know.
	For me, at least for me.
	I mean, someone who's had sexual.
	I've had sex at least.
	I've had sex one time.
	Like, I know what I'm doing in the bedroom.
	Like, I can take a girl who's never had sex.
	Can I have one of her numbers and ask her if you really knew what you were doing or is she faking?
	Guys, I'm not going to put your fucking crazy ass in contact with a fucking ex of mine.
	That's ridiculous.
	Ain't no fucking way you're talking about.
	It was just a rhetorical question.
	I was just, I just was just making a point.
	What I was trying to say before you interrupted me was: is that if you're a guy, you have any degree of sexual experience, if you know what you're doing, you know how to lead, you can like teach a girl.
	And it's not going to be a turn off or anything.
	You can show her what you like.
	You can have good sex with a girl who's never had sex ever.
	But who were the girls that you practiced on?
	Doesn't matter.
	I don't understand.
	I mean, somebody has to be the girls you practice on.
	What's your point?
	My point is, maybe a girl like me is the girl you practice on and you feel safe with.
	So we need people like that.
	Maybe that is the ministry.
	Yeah.
	Maybe that's a good idea.
	I'm taking one for the team.
	I'm taking one for the team in a lot of fucking ways.
	Look, there's been a couple questionables here and there, but I take pride in not sticking my dick and crazy.
	And you, Madame, are fucking crazy.
	And I ain't never fucked a girl like you.
	Mike dropped.
	You can take that to the bike.
	I believe it.
	I believe it.
	I wouldn't argue about that.
	No, that was good.
	That was good.
	It's late.
	No offense or anything.
	No, I wouldn't fuck you either.
	Well, earlier you talked about.
	Oh, now I'm going to go.
	I would blow you.
	I said, well, here's the thing.
	I'm in control.
	Oh, Lord and Lord.
	I would still like to suck Brian's dick.
	Can I say that?
	He's not.
	I'm telling you, he's not going to let us lose a lot of things over, you know?
	It's no different than when the guys get in a fight.
	You know, they just go beat the shit out of each other and that's done.
	It's done.
	That's what, to me, he doesn't like you.
	Well, I understand, but I'm just saying if he found a room in his heart to be like, well, maybe we can be friends and I'm going to go get coffee.
	Like I have conversations.
	And if she's offering, I mean.
	Your voice is like nails on a fucking chalkboard.
	Lighter drop.
	That was a comma.
	It just makes the blowjob better.
	It's a test.
	I'm going to pretend like you didn't make my dick go soft.
	God.
	Now, like, here's the thing.
	Like, a lot of people think that guys, like, they'll hit it once.
	But, like, for me, I never want to sleep with a girl once.
	So, like, if I sleep with a girl, I've already made the decision that I want there to be continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	Shut the fuck up.
	God damn.
	Throw this.
	Chill out.
	Just put it.
	Okay.
	I don't want to hear that.
	Just throw it in.
	Bro, you're just disruptive as fuck.
	All right.
	Thank you, Brian.
	This is a good talk.
	Oh, you're leaving.
	Yeah, she's.
	Well, can you at least say goodbye to me?
	I felt like we had a connection.
	Can we at least, can you?
	Yeah, there we go.
	Thank you.
	I said that you were a great guy.
	Hang on, you got to talk to the micro.
	I can't hear my earpiece.
	I enjoyed talking to you.
	I thought you were a great guy.
	You had a great personality.
	He's getting really annoyed that I'm talking.
	Yeah, you interrupted me.
	I was in the middle of talking.
	You're like, can you?
	You already told me to shut up.
	You already told me.
	Stop.
	Okay, well, you're here.
	You might as well just stay for the rest of the show.
	Look, hang on, hang on.
	Just hear me out.
	Hear me out.
	I thought that you had an interesting personality as well.
	Part of the show.
	Hang on.
	Part of the show is the combative.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Part of the show is the combative nature.
	I'm not upset with you in honesty, and neither is Brian.
	We're just Josh and yeah, we're just Josh and it was like a friendly shut up.
	When you already apologize for saying, like, it was a friendly shut the fuck up.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Shut the fuck up.
	And then you said, but you do apologize.
	Like, you know, it's kind of when you call.
	Never mind.
	I think she's feeling like the sorries are empty, like what I did.
	And I'm tired.
	I think she's feeling like the sorries are empty.
	Like everybody was feeling like my sorries were empty.
	Oh, okay.
	That's right.
	That's cool.
	Wait, I did get a message.
	Blonde said she lost her virginity at 13.
	So why did she say she bled and was unprepared on her wedding day?
	I was thinking that too.
	Because so I did not have good first sexual experiences.
	And so then I went celibate for years and years and years before I actually got married.
	So I was very nervous about sex.
	I had a lot of shame, a lot of trauma.
	I didn't know what I was doing.
	We had never had sex before.
	It was the typical whole Christian situation.
	It's not the typical situation.
	I had a five-something.
	Hang on, you still wanted a version, though.
	Why did you please?
	I don't know.
	Maybe the dude had a job.
	I had a five-someone in college with a girl who had a voice.
	I didn't know what I was doing.
	I didn't know what I was doing.
	How does that lead to bloodshed?
	It's going to be fantastic.
	I mean, do you want me to make you a video and send it to you?
	I mean, there's really a lot of stuff going on.
	There's just whatever.
	I don't know.
	It's going to be.
	I had a five-someone college medical problem.
	I was thinking about a boyfriend for three years in high school.
	Big lady.
	She's like, she did it.
	And fun stuff.
	It was like a murder shit.
	I don't know what.
	Okay, off the rails.
	Hold on.
	Wait, but just okay, question.
	What was your body count at before you got married?
	10, 20, 30.
	No, I maybe five, maybe?
	Leave it on the table.
	Just relax.
	I really didn't.
	I wasn't sexually experienced at all.
	But when we were talking about the body counts, you started off by saying, well, my dad kicked me out at 13.
	So I lost my 13.
	I was trying to calculate about how many of the teenagers.
	You have a nice watch.
	It's fake, apparently.
	Is it fake?
	Somebody also messaged me saying that you have a fake Rolex.
	I could be wrong.
	Is it fake?
	Is it a knockoff?
	This is literally.
	Can you talk into the mic?
	The things that you would come on to a podcast that is this big, you wouldn't wear a fake Rolex.
	That doesn't need to real Rolex.
	It's a real Rolex.
	There's a real Christian Dior sweatpants.
	She's a CEO.
	It's called a boss bitch.
	She's never a fan.
	Well, people are really into me.
	You're a guy who went, bro.
	Damn, bro.
	Did you read anything I'd say?
	I never know what a Rolex looked like.
	I have no idea.
	Did you read anything I sent you?
	You would know the number of celebrities that come in, this number of NDAs that I've signed.
	Like, rappers, singers, directors, producers.
	Quinton Tarantino, and what's his name?
	When did Quentin Tarantino slide into the DMs?
	Or was it something that I'd say?
	He doesn't slide into the DMs.
	Oh, wait, no, Quentin does have a foot.
	It gets a big foot fetish.
	That's why he didn't have it.
	Howard Stern didn't make us doing either.
	He was going to move to Nutland, New Jersey.
	That's where my parents were.
	Wait, so of the guys who you didn't sign an NDA for, who are the ones who you are saying you were, you like, hooked up with them or no, you hung out with them.
	Quentin Tarantino is a customer of your foot fetish business, not my foot fetish business.
	I worked for the foot pad that was owned by Jason, then I worked for the foot spot and then I just opened up my own.
	I've signed multiple NDAs of clients and things like that.
	So I'm telling you that I've met multiple celebrities that have sucked my toes and things like that.
	Has Quentin Tarantino sucked your toes?
	Oh my, what is I see your toes hang on.
	Has he sucked your toes?
	I wouldn't have brought it up if he didn't.
	Howard Stern is one of them too.
	Howard Stern has sucked your toes, ain't?
	No way?
	I don't know what it's supposed to be.
	Wait, I mean honestly, I just want to be.
	I just, I just want to know, has Quentin Tarantino taken your foot and put it in his mouth?
	Y E S, C. What other S do I need to say?
	S E C, like an Ex-Innoxie?
	Y E S.
	These are her customers who have not signed an N D A so she can say it without getting in trouble.
	That's what that means.
	And all those other people she mentioned, she just can't confirm nor deny.
	Well, did Quentin Tarantino wash his feet first?
	I don't suck his toes.
	Did you wash your feet?
	What?
	Yes.
	Or some guys request.
	It depends what they request.
	They request stinky, smelly, dirty, dirty is like they want you to walk around the sides of the room and they want you to have like spider webs or whatever like is on the ground.
	It's called fetishes.
	It's called if you ask me anything about the foot fetish about it.
	Why but I can't do it.
	Well people have things that they just have to deal with and get it out.
	That's what she totally don't want it.
	What do you do for a career?
	What are the crazy things?
	But with that logic, we can't talk about it.
	But then crazy stories.
	Want to say I go to the movie theater and I'm like, oh my god, this is the people 18.
	Nick is a virgin and this is very disturbing for him to listen to.
	Okay, it's a whole wild world out here, Nikki.
	I would be happy to be polite.
	Guys, if you want to get your last-minute TTSs in, sorry, guys, I'll trigger the ones that we're going to have.
	Danielle Rapal donated $69.
	If the blonde had a belt in her life, maybe she wouldn't be such a shitty parent.
	You aren't a villain.
	You're an awful person, and everyone there is clowning you right now.
	You shouldn't come back.
	No, we'll have her back.
	I don't think she's.
	Are you ready to be able to get back to her?
	But we will definitely have her back.
	Why wouldn't we have you back?
	Todd donated $69.
	Blondie is seriously re-re.
	By the way, Brian, I am 24, a virgin, submissive, give amazing massages, but I am unfortunately blonde, five feet seven inches, and I live in Florida Lol.
	Long distance, though.
	I mean, what's the is it like in any reality?
	That's what I'd want to know.
	Bald Paladins donated $69.
	Five minutes before the podcast ends, and we just now find out cutie sucked her toes.
	What the fuck?
	This would have been a really interesting panel if you simply wouldn't have been all over Blondie all night.
	Exactly.
	Jesus, that's what you need to talk about.
	I know it was a bit rough tonight.
	Look, here's the thing: with your notes or whatever, there's a lot of notes.
	I know you got a lot of notes.
	I only have a lot of stuff.
	Hey, guys, stop.
	Stop.
	One at a time.
	Okay, so we have to wrap up the show here soon.
	We had a lot of notes for you.
	We weren't able to really get through much.
	If you're down to come back, we'd be happy to get you on and actually get through the pre-show notes that you provided.
	I know you had more too.
	I will give you formal pre-show notes next time we come back.
	No, I mean, you already, you gave some.
	I mean, but hang on.
	You got to promise next time you come back, you can't be a grima-worm tongue.
	So you can't be whispering to the chick next to you and be like, I promise.
	Whispering, don't do this, don't do that.
	You can't be the grima worm tongue.
	I promise.
	I promise.
	Now, here's the group.
	It's going to be the true test, though.
	The true test is going to be if you're just going to be talking shit on social media for the next fucking three months.
	I know, and I know that you have trauma around that, but I can assure you.
	Did someone really like do that to you?
	He shared.
	It did.
	And that's all I'm going to do.
	We can talk shit this way on social media.
	I have no trauma.
	I am the type that will talk shit to your face.
	I will talk shit to your face.
	You've posted 30 stories.
	Well, I have.
	You post 30 stories a day.
	It's only because I can't do lives because I got money.
	You will have my reverence and respect if you actually go on and start praising me on your notes.
	Oh, that's easy.
	If you praise me in the coming days and weeks, I praise you right here, David.
	Of course I'll praise you.
	That misogynistic pot.
	But I don't think that of you.
	I don't think that.
	Maybe a little inexperienced in life, but that's not your fault.
	What?
	She said you're inexperienced in life, but that's not your fault.
	You haven't become friends with me.
	I'll tell you about that dark side.
	All right, right.
	So I want to try this.
	I want to try this thing where I go through, just real quick before we wrap it up, based or not based from Andrew's notes.
	So K based, right?
	We got K. That's the poll.
	It says K is based.
	And then moving over, we have a gal in the center, kind of based.
	Kind of based.
	Then to the 18-year-old, nobody's sure because we didn't get to hear enough.
	And then next to you, not based.
	Next to you, not based.
	Next to you.
	I'm sorry to say this, but not based.
	So that's what we've got.
	I have more to do with that words.
	What is based?
	Oh, like awesome laugh.
	Understands the world is cool.
	The new lingo that the kids' lingo these days.
	We're not going to do that.
	I'm going to do rapid fire.
	Okay, if you guys want to get your last-minute TTS's in, I'm going to do rapid fire three questions.
	Then we're going to wrap the show.
	We'll do a Twitch raid.
	We will do a raid to Andrew on YouTube.
	Nick, really quick, pull up Twitch.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash/whatever.
	Drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
	Guys, it's been 27 minutes since a prime came in.
	North Korean God dropped a prime 27 minutes ago.
	I think it's bugged, boys.
	I think something's wrong with our Twitch.
	You know, the stream cut out.
	We had internet issues.
	We had to restart the stream.
	That was my fault.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's I think that our primes are broken.
	So if somebody can do a little, you know, do a little test on the primes.
	The Viking Jedi, thank for the Prime.
	Scott, thank you for the Prime.
	Marco, thank you for the Prime.
	Wolf, Jakey, 96, thank for the Prime.
	Drop a follow, though.
	Drop a follow, guys.
	Appreciate it.
	If you're watching on YouTube, by the way, Madison's going to start streaming.
	Madison will be starting a stream on there.
	We're going to be doing IRL streams.
	These are going to be Twitch exclusive.
	We're building up an audience on Twitch.
	And yeah, guys.
	And there's no ads on Twitch, at least for the month of June.
	Okay, cool.
	Thank you, guys.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Real quick questions.
	So we're not going to debate it.
	I just, I'm doing stats on this.
	Would you rather, okay.
	Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	We're not going to debate it.
	I just want your answers.
	Would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods?
	Random man.
	Random bear.
	Bear.
	Bear.
	Into the mic, please.
	Man.
	Bear.
	Oh, man.
	Man.
	Okay, you three said bear.
	Bear, bear, bear.
	Okay.
	Really quick, just short.
	I won't debate it, just why?
	Because animals don't lie, and men do.
	But they kill you.
	Okay, what about you?
	I really, really love bears, and I don't really like men.
	But you're with me.
	Never mind.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	I mean, yeah, the bear could kill me, but also the man.
	So, like, but the man can, yeah.
	I just could essay, they could murder you, they could torch, whatever.
	Okay.
	So I do want to ask on that.
	By the way, the base side of the table said man.
	I just want to point that out.
	True.
	So the question here is: so, given this sort of fear that you guys have of men to the point that you'd rather be in a forest, come across a random bear in the woods, what percentage of men do you think would opt to victimize you in this situation?
	So if we're plucking a random man out of the population, what percentage?
	Starting with you.
	Well, he's in the woods, so that's not very random.
	Okay, hold on.
	So here's the scenario: it's randomly plucking you.
	So it's not like, why is he in the woods?
	Doesn't matter.
	The hypothetical, it's a random man.
	You both get plucked, dropped in the woods.
	I'm going to go with 75% chance it's not going to go well for me.
	Judging by the sexual assault statistics for women, 75% of us by the time we get to college have been assaulted.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	I'll repeat the question just one more time.
	So, what percentage of men do you think in the circumstances would choose to victimize you?
	75%.
	Okay.
	I would say 50%.
	Yeah, I was going to say 50 as well.
	Okay.
	So the population of men in the United States, I believe, is 160 million.
	50% of that is 80 million.
	You'd think that 80 million men in the United States would murder you or SAU.
	Oh, yeah.
	Come on.
	I don't think one in the woods, one-on-one.
	I'm not talking about all of them together.
	It's just a 50-50% chance.
	That's a lot.
	It's a 50-50 chance, just like.
	That is true.
	Yeah, and with a bear.
	He's going to do something or he's not.
	Yeah, it's literally it.
	He's not.
	With the bear, it's about the same, but I would rather get mauled by a bear at this point.
	I'm all.
	I'm not sure that one of these two is going to kill one of you right now.
	That's literally what you're saying.
	That's literally what you're saying.
	Again, we are talking about the situation where two people are, again, two people are randomly in the woods.
	Just two random people who don't know each other.
	We're talking about a population of men.
	And you're saying exactly half of them will kill you.
	Well, there's no one.
	He's either going to attack or he's not.
	There's no logic.
	At all, guys, we have to.
	I was trying to make a point.
	It's five in the morning.
	That was my point.
	Yeah, damn near.
	I would say less than 10%.
	The numbers I think are astounding.
	I think it's absolutely astounding the numbers we get, but I so want to argue.
	Just go for base women.
	Okay, that's my advice.
	Okay, I think perhaps I misunderstood the question.
	Are you specifically saying how many men overall, I think, have the potential to do that?
	Yeah.
	You're literally saying half would do that to you.
	No, specifically in that situation, there's a 50-50 chance.
	In that situation, yes.
	Specifically, but that was exactly the question.
	Yeah, that's what you say.
	That is a lot.
	Yeah, but that is specifically in that exact situation.
	One-on-one.
	Yeah, it either goes left or right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That person is coming from a pool of men.
	Yeah, but I don't know what's the possibility of that man doing that.
	I would say out of the pool of men that this particular person would be the person to do something bad.
	I would say about 30%.
	That's crazy.
	That's a lot of people.
	Yeah, I have to do that because I have gone through a lot of stuff.
	I have too.
	But we can't say that.
	I personally can't say it.
	I would say less than 10%.
	And that's more on the 5% side.
	I'm not saying 50 anymore.
	It's not even going to be 5%.
	If you guys think about what it is scalably, do you understand what it would look like if there was $100 million in $1 bills on that table, what that would look like?
	You can't actually envision it because it's so much.
	You can't really envision it.
	You're saying that out of 150 million men, that you think that 30% of them are bad to you if they happen to be in a forest with you alone.
	Yes.
	Why?
	Because that's at least how many men are lying to us on dates and saying that they want to get married and have kids and they do stuff or whatever.
	Because liars are liars.
	You can't do that.
	But you also lie.
	So in that same logic, you can also are going to be that personality.
	Whatever, if you want to say that.
	But I'm saying that men maliciously lie in order to get a certain agenda.
	You've got these bro.
	You maliciously lied to me.
	You're lying about your television.
	But for the most part, men are coming from me and taking my sexual energy.
	You can say whatever you want.
	Maybe I mismarketed and they thought it was this.
	I thought the birds were going to be a little bit of a damage.
	And then they've come to find out I'm not.
	I'll move it on.
	I'll move it on.
	But just know that me and Andrew would absolutely smoke you guys on this if we had the time.
	Okay, just no offense.
	But we would, you know, we would rebuke and rebut, and we would own you with facts and logic.
	And we could give you personal experience.
	Personal experience.
	And all the women don't speak up about them, personal experience and facts.
	Logic in the middle of the moment.
	Well, that's stupid because it's not stupid.
	It's realistic.
	Well, when your daughters get abused because you guys were fucking ignorant, I mean, it is what it is.
	You're the one showing them sexual things.
	It's no real life.
	So they're prepared to do it.
	I know real life because I'm living it right now.
	This is real.
	Silence in the courtroom.
	Okay.
	Jeez.
	Did you have an English accent?
	Yes.
	I did.
	Hit the gavel.
	Just do it.
	Just do it.
	I did.
	What's the problem?
	Okay, hold on.
	Two more, two, three more questions.
	Okay.
	Who's physically stronger, men or women?
	Men.
	Into the mics, guys.
	Men.
	Okay, just had to check.
	I had to double check.
	Okay.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men or women?
	Primary victim of war?
	Yeah.
	Who's the primary victim of war?
	Men.
	Everybody.
	Straighten your mic, please.
	Men.
	Men.
	Women.
	Men.
	Wait, women, you don't know.
	I thought I said men.
	Oh, you said men.
	So women.
	Everybody.
	Yeah.
	Just curious, why women?
	Because men are the ones that.
	So if men are going to war and then the womans are back home by themselves, they're going to be more vulnerable without a male figure.
	I believe so.
	And if, let's just say in a world where most men got annihilated from war in a different country, and now this country is just majority women, we are going to be more vulnerable naturally.
	So, but wouldn't, okay, let me ask you a question.
	Certainly, perhaps it would be catastrophic to that country if all the men were wiped out, the women would be more vulnerable.
	But wouldn't some of the women thrive?
	I'm sure, yeah, of course.
	There's going to be some thrive.
	So if some women are thriving, some women have an average, and then some women are suffering, but all the men are dead?
	Well, I could say the same thing.
	It's like, well, some men are going to die, but what if this example you gave is all the men died.
	Okay.
	So they'd be.
	That's true.
	Hang on.
	You're right.
	That's true.
	You could give me another example the same exact way, but I still make Brian's point.
	Wait.
	And it depends on if you think that death is the worst case scenario.
	I think just being alive and suffering.
	Okay.
	Okay, well, I do have to ask this question then.
	It is a bit heavy, but so would you, and I'll open it to the whole panel starting with you.
	Would you rather be essayed once or killed?
	Yeah, essayed once.
	That's already happened to me, too.
	We don't need personal anecdotes.
	Just answer the question.
	At this point, just kill me now.
	If it happens again, I'm done.
	But that you can have no emotional connection with them.
	I'm just done with getting abused, to be honest.
	Go ahead.
	Essayed.
	Essay.
	Essay.
	I'd rather.
	Andrew, would you rather?
	I'd rather be essayed.
	I can.
	If it was by a man, then I would choose death.
	Don't do that.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	Same.
	I concur.
	I concur.
	I'm going to take that.
	Andrew's thinking why you're so happy.
	Why does it affect you so much if sex isn't really like that?
	It's just sex.
	I'm kidding.
	No, that's an assault against you.
	That was just.
	And I'm over it at this point.
	I would like to die and leave my legacy that I've written books.
	And sometimes you got to die to get a point across.
	It doesn't even make any sense.
	But, anyways, just for the sake of moving things on.
	Okay, so war, everybody.
	Into the mic, please.
	Yeah, war is horrible on the whole society.
	Everyone.
	So, okay, but the question is, I should have just kind of pushed on this initially when that's the question.
	The question is, who is the primary victim of war, men or women?
	The question does not give you an option of saying everyone.
	So if you had to choose one, which do you choose?
	You know what?
	It's the men because of the traumas that they are stuck with after all that, even if they live.
	Wait, so going to you, World War I, who's the primary victim of World War I for you?
	That works.
	I guess I would say you said woman to the point.
	I guess, yeah, I would still save to women.
	Okay.
	What about World War II?
	Woman.
	Vietnam?
	I would just say woman all around.
	The Ukraine war.
	Yeah.
	Interest.
	Well, even Palestine.
	Ukraine war is very modern, and I have some information on the Ukraine war.
	Okay, but before you say that, can you say women? instead of women.
	Women.
	We keep on saying woman is plural.
	Like women.
	Women.
	Women here.
	Women.
	Women.
	Waymen.
	It's my Spanish.
	So let me ask you just one more time.
	So in the Ukraine.
	No, It's not your Spanish.
	Hang on.
	We have plural in Spanish too for Mohair, right?
	We know what Spanish is.
	We know what plural is in Spanish too, right?
	Yes, Andrew, you're right.
	All right.
	Okay, so I'm trying to wrap this up here.
	Why cigarettes?
	I gotta ask.
	Hold on, no, Okay, so.
	What's wrong with cigarettes?
	Our smoking helps with the brain.
	No, it doesn't.
	Actually, I saw this video.
	Actually, people who smoke cigarettes, it actually does.
	Stop it.
	Don't even know.
	Maybe nicotine, if anything.
	Nicotine.
	Well, yeah, the nicotine.
	That's it.
	But just like, not the tobacco.
	So, Ukraine war.
	Who's the primary victim of the Ukraine war?
	Men or women?
	I still believe women.
	Okay, so, Nick, could you pull up that photo?
	Do you know which one?
	Make sure it's the blurred ones.
	You know what I'm talking about, Nick?
	Okay, so, and there's also news articles.
	You can fact-check me on this.
	But so when the Ukraine war broke out, all the men had to stay in the country.
	Like, they could not leave.
	So from the age of 18 to, it was either 60, 65, they had to remain in the country.
	Right.
	All the women of any age could flee the country.
	Oh, wait, hold on, Nick.
	All the women could flee the country.
	Okay.
	So evade the war.
	They couldn't be drafted into the war.
	They could leave.
	So all the men could stay.
	Maybe some of them, not all the men, had to get involved in the war effort, but a lot did.
	A lot got drafted.
	The women could go to, they could go off to Romania.
	They could go off to London.
	They could go to Stockholm.
	They could be up in the club doing all this shit.
	Pull up the photo, Nick.
	So on the left, you have Ukrainian women who were screenshotted on, I believe it's primarily Tinder, a dating app, trying to get dick in various countries that they fled to.
	On the right, you have, well, I can't really, I don't want to say it, but you have the casualties of war.
	Seeing this photo, women clubbing, partying, trying to get dicked down by dudes in Stockholm.
	What did you want to say?
	Desperation.
	Hold on.
	Loneliness and desperation.
	Okay.
	I didn't say loneliness.
	Well, okay, whatever.
	So, knowing that there are thousands or hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of Ukrainian women who went to Stockholm and went to go fuck hot Swedish dudes and they're on Tinder and then comparing it to the other photo.
	Does that change your view at all on this?
	No, because although that they are victims to death, like obviously that's horrible.
	And I do believe that men still have the responsibility of protecting.
	But this is going back to, not to bring back to you, but it's like those women are now without a male figure.
	Now they probably have kids.
	They're desperate.
	They're trying to do their, they go into sex work where they're looking to survive.
	And now not only are they victims, but now the children are victims to just more brokenness and all this debauchery.
	Are you sure you're not a feminist?
	Ew, no.
	Well, that's very gynocentric.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I'm not fucking that.
	Hold on.
	No, I don't.
	I feel like.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Your view is a very gynocentric one.
	It's very woman-centered, woman-focused.
	How could it not be the case when I use the term, the word primary, which has a meaning?
	How can it not be the case?
	Now, if I grant you that it would be absolutely devastating to, for example, a wife of a soldier and that soldier died in war, if I grant you that it would be devastating to her and she would be hurt and distraught, couldn't you at least be grant to me that dying is worse than being distraught and coping with the death of a loved one?
	Yes, but I'm also not just looking at that.
	Look at the Palestine and Israel on both ends, all the occasions that the mothers are.
	Okay, but let's keep it.
	Okay.
	But that's still valid, right?
	They're still being victims to war.
	Okay, fine.
	I'll even argue this point.
	Even in the Israel-Palestine conflict, the men are still the primary victims of war, even in this conflict.
	In fact, the men are the primary victims of war in every single conflict.
	But hold on, but the men are hating when people start it.
	Women aren't out here declaring war.
	Hold on, hold on.
	But you, people that are like you, they like to argue that, oh, feminists are victims and la la la, like that victim mentality, right?
	So why can't you use that same logic with men?
	Like, isn't that your guys' duty to protect this woman?
	Is it wrong to say that somebody dying, they're not a victim?
	They are a victim, but also what about the kids and the children that are also.
	Hold on, no, no, no, let me address.
	Hold on.
	No, hold on.
	See, when stopping, hold on, stop, stop, stop.
	So when feminists make stop, stop, stop.
	Everybody stop.
	God damn.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Holy fuck.
	Jesus Christ.
	You guys are.
	Stop.
	Holy fuck.
	Let me talk.
	The reason feminists are criticized when it comes to their victimhood mindset, their victim mindset, is because they'll complain about things like manspreading and mansplaining and these sorts of benign and arbitrary things.
	Because the grievances, and granted, I do think there are actually legitimate grievances that women face.
	However, feminists will often make, they will either exaggerate or there will be a hyperbole.
	They'll present false information when it comes to their supposed victimhood status.
	And then they'll also just complain about just the most benign, ridiculous shit like the wage gap, mansplaining, manspreading.
	Okay.
	So that's where the criticisms come for.
	So you can't then use that as justification to be like, well, you're, why are you calling yourself, why are you calling men victims when they fucking die in war?
	I apologize if I come off as a snowflake for holding the position that men dying in war makes them victims.
	victims but also like looking at it from like a dark perspective like okay they they die and then it ends there now let's just hold on wait so So with my church, there's a ministry where we go to Africa.
	Hold on, real quick.
	You're trying to leave?
	Just say your point.
	Okay, so there's a ministry at church where we go, well, I don't, but my church goes out to Africa and looks over the widows and the children that are left alone because the men have to go to war and they're just left in villages and they're left without food.
	They're left without everything.
	So, if we're going to be approaching this from a traditional standpoint, that men are, that's their responsibility.
	I'm not saying it's they're not victims, but they are, they are going to war to protect their women and children.
	And then, okay, they die, they die.
	It's horrible.
	I'm not saying that's right, but now the victims that are still living are the women and children that are having to.
	I don't agree with what these Ukrainian women are doing, but if anything, it just shows how more broken they get without the male leader in the frame.
	You don't have to agree, though.
	I see what you're saying.
	They're victims, they're dying.
	That sucks.
	But the children in the rubble, the woman, the children and the women in the rubble right now, as we speak, those are victims that are still alive and breathing because of war.
	Yes, okay.
	So, if I can acknowledge that it's absolutely war is absolutely has a negative impact on children and women, I can acknowledge that.
	However, the men who are dying are the primary victims of war.
	Yeah, but what I don't, I think you're not, you're thinking I'm coming from a feminist point, but I'm actually making a point that men are much more, I can almost say more important than women, that they hold such a valuable like value in the whole family unit that when they die, it impacts the family immensely.
	Well, if they're more important than women, wouldn't their be more important than it makes much more of a treasure, yeah, because more people are being affected without their leadership and without their protection, even more.
	The wife has to carry on.
	Okay, so hold on, let me ask you a question.
	Let's assume that I don't know what the death toll is in the Ukraine conflict, but let's assume in World War II that five million of the men that died in World War II were single.
	They did not have a spouse, they did not have a wife, they did not have any children.
	They had maybe they had a father, mother, brothers, sisters.
	I'll grant that.
	Knowing this, those five million men that didn't have a spouse didn't have kids, are those men then the primary victim of war?
	That situation, no.
	Wait, even in that situation, still no.
	No, I'm saying no, like no on my on my argument.
	Like, no, it's wait, hold on.
	So, if that for the situation you just gave me, no, then if there's no woman or children involved, then yeah, I guess the men are more victim in that situation.
	Well, what about the father and the mother and brothers and sisters?
	Aren't they going to suffer too?
	I mean, just everybody freaking suffers.
	I don't know.
	This is like a hard question, but the thing is, so you think that so you guys just think straight out it's the men are more victims and that the women's.
	Yes, every military wants to suffer.
	But there are also women that are in charge.
	They'll never come back to their families.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, and there's a nominal effect, but there's a nominal effect for them.
	I'll make a deal with you.
	How about women go and fight all the wars and men stay at home, and then we can say that we're equal?
	No, I'm not for that.
	I'm not for that.
	I believe that men should be out fighting the war, and it's unfortunate that they are the ones that are being victims to war.
	Yeah, I know, but and there's a repercussion in society as well.
	Hang on, but let us assume for a second women were the ones out fighting the wars while men stayed home.
	We'd be so messed up.
	Yeah, would you say, though, that women or men then would be the primary victim of war?
	This is crazy.
	Okay, wait.
	So, if all women were out in war, would we?
	If the women fought the wars instead of the men and the men stayed home, would you say the woman now would be Victim because the men can figure it out.
	They are leaders.
	They'll be back home figuring things out.
	But they're not a leadership role if they're not.
	Hold on.
	I know.
	I don't agree with that, but we're just giving the circumstance.
	If we were to switch it for whatever reason, then, yeah, no.
	Wait, would the women then be the primary victims of war?
	Still.
	If they were out, yes.
	Yes, because I believe that men could be at home figuring it out.
	I don't believe they should be staying at home.
	If women were the primary victims of war in that scenario, then if you reversed it to men, see how that works?
	No, no, no.
	Because if we were, it'd be a lose-lose situation that way.
	Because if all women were to go to war, we'd be messed up.
	And if the men were just had to stay back home, no.
	Like, I don't believe that that would work.
	I don't know if this is making sense logically to me, but also here.
	Let me let me make it make sense.
	If by your answer, you say women went to war instead of men, they'd be the primary victims of war.
	But you say when men go to war instead of women, they're not the primary victims of war.
	That makes no fucking sense to me at all.
	Well, I can't, that logic doesn't stand because I'm thinking that men should be going out to war because they are supposed to be protecting us and stuff like that.
	And if we were to switch it, I still, in my head, I'm like, well, men are, they will figure it out their leaders and stuff.
	So, but if they're back at home and their wife is dead, but the logic doesn't work because real leaders wouldn't be in that position, anyways.
	They'd be out in war.
	I actually have, I think I have a something here, Andrew, unless you want to have a bit more.
	Well, I mean, I'll just finish it with this.
	So the insertion of the hypothetical is to test the logic, right?
	So if you're asking who's the primary victim of war, if we just reversed it and said, well, women go to war instead of men, and you say that women then would be the primary victims of war, then it should stand to logic that if you reversed it so men went, that men would be the primary victims of war.
	No.
	You understand that?
	No, I understand what you're saying, but no, because my argument is that because, go ahead, Brian.
	I think I have a smoking gun here.
	Andrew, I want you to let me know if you think this is a little smoking gun.
	I asked you a question earlier, and I think I asked, would you rather be essayed or killed, correct?
	Okay.
	So, oh boy, okay.
	I think I know where you're going with this, but so if you were to be essayed, are you the primary victim or is your husband the primary victim?
	Because he has to deal with you dealing with that trauma.
	I mean, but that's not the same thing.
	Those are two different scenarios because both people are so warm.
	So we agreed they're two different scenarios, but in good faith, are you the primary victim or is he?
	I think I would be the primary victim.
	Right, you'd be the primary victim.
	Now, but here's the thing: when I asked you the question, my understanding is you categorize this.
	Death is worse than SA.
	Death is worse than Saxony.
	You said you were assisting me.
	I just don't want to die.
	I've been sexually assaulted, so I'm okay with that.
	But so you said that death is worse than SA.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	I'm just choosing actually.
	Absolutely, we've already been.
	No, I did not say that.
	I did not say that.
	But we have to choose.
	But it's not because I think it's better.
	It's just I already done it, so I'm alive right now.
	Why would I want to die?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Because you wouldn't want to.
	But if.
	Hold on.
	I'm a little confused here.
	Okay, so if presented with the choice between SA or death, if you had never been SA'd, which would you choose?
	Well, it's hard because I'm biased.
	SA because I asked you to wait.
	Yeah, but assuming they warrant.
	Well, you already answered that.
	Okay, SA.
	So then if that's the case, under those conditionals, then you're saying that death is worse.
	And if women are the primary victims of war based around the fact that they could potentially be SA'd and death is worse and more men die than women, then it would stand to reason then that men were the primary victims of war.
	Is that not the argument, Ryan?
	No, because I'm still standing on that the fact that the men are dying is affecting and having a domino effect on the women and the children left behind.
	So the people that are dying aren't victims.
	They are victims, but I don't believe that the primary, because they're dead and it sucks, but now the people that are living with the consequences are the women and the children.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	They're dying to the women's.
	So just real quick, we'll test the money.
	Think about all the single moms who have children.
	Would you choose abandonment or choose death?
	Abandonment.
	Okay.
	Would you choose poor economic conditions or would you choose death?
	Poor economic conditions.
	Okay, well then under all circumstances which you have stated that the domino effect would fall on the women and children, then this means that men who die in war still have it worse than women.
	Therefore, we can conclude that men have it worse than women when it comes to war, correct?
	I guess.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay, final question.
	But she's gone.
	Let me do the chats.
	I promise we're wrapping up now, guys.
	Ryan Callaway donated $69.
	Brian, I felt for you Sunday as you were clearly tired as hell.
	Glad you're in better shape tonight.
	Also, I want to see Foot Fetish Lady back when she has more sleep.
	She's interesting.
	Yeah, we should have her back.
	I mean, if she's down.
	If she's down.
	This TARDIS big tard?
	Okay.
	Up PR Aquatic donated $69.
	Is it sexist for men to be scared of women be seen women who falsely accuse men of grape?
	Simple yes or no.
	No.
	What?
	Is it sexist for men to be scared of women because women can fall?
	Well, the better framing on that one is, so Wes Watson donated $69.
	Brian, how do you have the nerve to humiliate Noel with Andrew for nine fracking hours and then expecting her not talking sheet about you and even praising you?
	You heard Andrew talk sheet about Bevo and Wes still.
	I don't talk shit about Wes.
	I do talk shit about Bivo still.
	No, well, wait, that is true.
	That's fair.
	I do talk shit about both Bevo and Wes.
	I'm not going to lie.
	Oh, wait.
	Lol Paladins donated $69.
	Props to everyone on this panel other than Brian.
	Most TikTok brain 304s give up after six hours.
	Brian seems intent on torturing the viewers as long as possible.
	You're kinky.
	You're kinky, Brian.
	He's a sadist.
	He's a sadist.
	That's what that's called, guys.
	Oh, we have one more.
	Thank you, Lol Paladins.
	Appreciate it.
	I donated $69.
	Just got here.
	But did you hear about the new bill going through the house to replace the wartime draft with the automatic wartime draft?
	Did I did see that they're trying to do oh basically just men get automatically Instead of having to register for the selective service.
	They're just automatically in the selective service system They don't have to do registration.
	I did hear about that.
	Anyways, so, okay.
	Final question.
	Can you be sexist towards men?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Wait, wait.
	I'm sorry.
	How about just answer the question?
	Can you?
	Can women be sexist towards men?
	I believe the men are the victims in culture.
	Huh?
	Primarily.
	So, just is that a yes?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	All right, cool.
	All right, guys.
	We are going to wrap up the show.
	My goodness.
	What a doozy of an episode.
	What a doozy.
	We're going to do a raid to Nick.
	Is he still playing?
	Hold on.
	Let me look.
	We're going to raid.
	Ah, in-and-outs, definitely closed now.
	Ah, damn.
	Aladar stopped raiding.
	Okay, we're going to raid.
	We're going to do the little goblin Joker D. Ah, but he's just started his stream.
	Hmm.
	Well, raid Joker D. Guys, pull up Twitch really quick, Nick.
	Oh, he's not even, he's not even there to receive it.
	Okay, we'll do.
	Is Wo Grandma still doing her shit?
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever drops a follow, drops a prime sub.
	Almost three.
	Ooh, it's what?
	Almost three.
	Three.
	You can come back.
	You can come back.
	I have a flight.
	I don't have to catch.
	What time?
	Yeah, we're wrapping.
	Yeah, we're rapping.
	Let's see.
	Here, hold on, guys.
	Who do I need to raid?
	No, it's 214.
	Jesus, I'm old.
	No wonder I went crazy, you guys.
	I go to bed at like, but I was triggered.
	I would have calmed down.
	That was five hours ago.
	Well, I got adrenaline rushed, I guess.
	224.
	I can't do that.
	I'm sleeping at Brian's house, just saying.
	I called it.
	I'll sleep on the couch.
	I'll sleep on the couch.
	No way.
	Okay, so let me.
	Oh, hold on.
	This, and then I'm going to do my shout-outs, and then we're going to.
	Kaylin Jari donated $69.
	While I don't agree with her base statement, I agree men would be less negatively impacted if they lost a wife in war than a woman who lost her husband.
	Men would be hurt, but still safe and stable.
	Thank you.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	Yeah, but that doesn't actually logically.
	Yes, it does.
	Yes, it does.
	No, it doesn't because I asked about the feminist opinion, by the way.
	Because I asked about the fact that the conditionals of the domino effect.
	And if the conditionals of the domino effect are the same, then it can't be true.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you both a call to action.
	Would you consider stopping sex work entirely?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely.
	I would.
	Yeah.
	Did you make a commitment tonight?
	This is a call to action for tonight to do it.
	Oh, well, I have to wait until I have a husband and I have all my needs.
	Okay, that's a no.
	All right.
	I tried, boys.
	I tried.
	Okay, GG.
	Well played to the panel.
	I think this is one of our longest streams ever.
	So you should feel a sense of pride to have been part of the longest whatever stream ever.
	We did have internet issues and this is all Kay's fault.
	Yeah.
	So I want to thank you.
	Oh.
	Double buys.
	Huge.
	Massive Myron.
	Myron Gaines.
	Oh, Myron.
	Again.
	No, I mean, that was before.
	Never mind.
	It's like a bodybuilding thing.
	Okay.
	So, GG, GG, well played to the panel.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out if you're watching on YouTube.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Stick around for the raids.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show.
	Your patronage is very much appreciated.
	You guys are super generous.
	And, you know, we're like the vast majority of our streams get the yellow YouTube demonetization icon.
	Our stream's demonetized.
	You know, we're talking about some crazy shit on here.
	Um, Madison's just dropping the R-bomb like all the time, you know.
	So, yeah.
	So, we will be live again Sunday, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	Uh, we got some good guests coming.
	We got Natalie Winters.
	You guys are a fan of her.
	She's super based.
	She'll be on, I think, doubling up Sunday, Tuesday.
	Got some excellent panels coming up.
	Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	If you can make it to Santa Barbara, I'm going to do a quick Twitch raid.
	Is he not back yet?
	This fucking goblin.
	Yeah, he's just fucking being.
	Yeah, he's being a fucking goblin.
	I want to raid somebody else then.
	Hold on.
	Let me just, if you want, get a last-minute TTS in.
	Oh, I got.
	Did this come through?
	I never even saw that.
	Oh, weird.
	If you want, okay.
	Sorry, guys.
	Joker D's being a little goblin, so I'm not sure what's going on there.
	We got who do we who do we raid, man?
	I don't know.
	Maybe we do S Font.
	He's already been streaming for 12 hours.
	S fanned.
	S fanned.
	Let me check one thing.
	Hold on.
	What is going on?
	Joker?
	Joker D.
	Okay.
	We're going to raid S fan then.
	What did you just say?
	What?
	Sounded like you said something weird.
	Joker D?
	Did you think I said that?
	Joker D.
	No, Joker D. Joker D. Hold on, guys.
	Sorry.
	Getting this raid going.
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	Can you send me a channel?
	Yeah, one sec.
	I'm getting it for you here in just a sec, man.
	Oh, Joker D went offline.
	That's weird.
	Okay.
	S-Fanned.
	It's S-Fanned TV.
	E-S-F-A-N-D-T-V.
	We're going to raid him.
	Yo, guys, I want to get S-Fans on the channel.
	I'd love to get him on the podcast.
	He would be super dope.
	He'd be a great guest.
	So if you can go over there, just tell him, like, yo, hop on the whatever podcast.
	Let me know when you have it, Nick.
	Thank you guys on Twitch.
	Tuning in on Twitch.
	I know it was a bumpy stream.
	Could you just hide Andrew for just a sec?
	Does he know we're watching him?
	Yeah, leave it there, Nick.
	So tell him that he needs to come on the whatever podcast.
	I'm going to raid in 10 seconds.
	Thank you, guys, for watching.
	I want to take a gamble here.
	I have no idea what game he's playing.
	Loading.
	Big gamble.
	Two level three of these guys.
	Thank you guys for watching on Twitch.
	O7's in the chat.
	Have a good night, guys, on Twitch.
	All right, we just sent the raid.
	What game?
	What game is this?
	Guys, we're gonna do have Madison start a Twitch stream.
	Yo, whatever.
	Thank you for the raid.
	What's up, man?
	Okay, huge.
	This is our game, Clausing Chaos.
	It's not out yet.
	Oh, what game is this?
	I don't know.
	It's an auto battler.
	Think of it more like it's like it's like super autopets, kind of, but okay.
	Super auto pets, that's TFT.
	Anyways, all right, guys.
	Uh, we gotta wrap the show.
	I'm gonna send those of you on YouTube.
	I'm gonna send you guys to Andrew.
	All right, guys.
	So, O7's in the chat.
	Longest stream ever.
	It was a total train wreck of a stream.
	Off the rails, but it was a good show, nevertheless.
	Very entertaining.
	I want to give a big thank you to Andrew.
	We're sending you guys over to him.
	Guys, get this guy to 100k.
	He's the most get Andrew to 100K.
	I'll set and subscribe to you, and he's you intellectual.
	He is one of the he is a gentleman and a scholar, an all-around great guy.
	And an a-hole seven.
	He deserves 100k more than any other YouTuber I can think of.
	One mil.
	So drop him a sub, guys, when you go over.
	Drop him some love when we do the raid.
	And tell him to shave his arms.
	With that said, I hope you guys have a very good day.
	And pop that zip your pencil.
	How old are you?
	Pop it.
	Put a little alcohol on that.
	Dry that shit up.
	It's gross.
	You were a 10, but you got that zip.
	Now you're a freaking zero.
	07's in the chat.
	Zits bigger than 7.

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