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Broke Men Should NOT Date?! She HATES America?! Husband CRASHES Show! | Dating Talk #121

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, occupation.
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	Hi, my name is Holly Treats.
	I'm 28 years old and I live in Los Angeles.
	And I've been a full-time content creator since 2015.
	And now I'm like designing jewelry and doing other stuff too.
	And when you say content creator, what kind of content are you making?
	I've been doing some sexy content on OnlyFans for quite some time.
	Since 2015, though?
	Premium Snapchat and then OnlyFans and then Cambridge.
	Oh, so you're an OG.
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hello, my name is Carla Eli.
	I'm 23 years old and I'm a relationship coach and I live in San Diego.
	Okay, and you kind of had a couple viral articles on you from there was the New York Post, the Daily Wire, The Mirror, The Sun, all these.
	Yeah, so we'll get into those a little.
	Oh, okay.
	And you've reacted to one or two of our videos, so we'll get into that.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, I'm Kendra Lee Ryan.
	I am 32 years old.
	I am from Los Angeles, California, and I'm an adult film star of 14 years.
	And I also now started managing lovely women like Holly Treats everywhere.
	Okay.
	And you said 14 years you've been involved in that.
	So since you were 18.
	Correct.
	Okay, you got started at 18.
	You do, like, were you doing some dancing, you were doing porn, like that kind of thing.
	So, I started dancing at 18.
	I started doing professional films at 21.
	I've been up for a few awards, so it's been fun.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Abigail Lay.
	I am 22 and I'm from Missouri, and I'm a personal trainer.
	Missouri, I detect a little accent, so and you also recently had a little viral moment on TikTok, and Matt Walsh reacted to it.
	We'll check that out in a little bit.
	But yeah, welcome.
	Hi, I'm Monica Holt, Swedish Bella.
	I'm a bikini competitor.
	Can we have you tilt your microphone up just a time?
	Yeah, just perfect.
	Perfect.
	I'm a bikini fitness computator.
	I do OnlyFans.
	Used to be a teacher.
	I'm from Sweden.
	I lived here eight years.
	Okay, age?
	F. I'm 40.
	40, okay.
	Used to be a teacher.
	What did you teach?
	I used to teach European history and religion history.
	European history?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Cool.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name's Anna.
	I'm from Ukraine.
	I lived in the United States for four years.
	I'm doing acting and e-commerce.
	Age?
	26.
	26?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Gloria Calderon.
	I am from New York and I'm a real estate investor.
	Age?
	31.
	31?
	Okay, welcome.
	Thank you.
	My name is Mason Gregoire.
	I am a, I got crap for this last time, time before, but I'm a follower of Christ primarily.
	Other than that, mechanical engineer, powerlifter, competitive powerlifter, content creator, age 27.
	Can we see the like a little like double body?
	Fuck.
	Myron, holy shit, dude.
	And you're also a bodybuilder, too, right?
	Yes.
	I do personal competition.
	A little double body.
	Come on.
	Let's go.
	It's a little hidden, but maybe.
	I think we can have a gun show in this table.
	I feel it.
	And you're a fitness competitor, too.
	Yeah, she just won.
	Oh, she?
	Okay, she's got me.
	Oh, damn.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And she just won.
	Yeah.
	Oh, really?
	Thank you.
	I had an In-N-Out yesterday.
	What's up?
	You win that?
	I did a win.
	I had an In-N-Out after my show.
	Yeah.
	Good times.
	Okay, cool.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	What's everybody's current relationship status?
	So are you single, talking stage, situation ship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule sex, Colt Harrim?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	So I am currently single and definitely upgraded my dating game and I'm dating multiple people, but very curated.
	And my job takes up a lot of my emotional bandwidth for dating, like being on OnlyFans because I'm kind of giving in that energy.
	So I want to reserve my dating life, even though I'm single for like being stuff that's worth it.
	And then my longest relationship was eight years, and that was like, I got out of that like three years ago.
	And even though we weren't married, it was like enmeshed.
	So I'm definitely enjoying my freedoms.
	I'm really excited to see what I've done for myself since getting out of that.
	And I'm like, not, it's all been good since then.
	You said you guys broke up three years ago?
	Yeah, I want to say it like that.
	This is like right before the pandemic.
	It was, no, it was a little bit after.
	I think it was like 2020, maybe 20.
	Yeah, like right around that, yeah.
	Okay.
	But we didn't break up because of COVID.
	We should have broken up years before COVID.
	I see.
	Yeah.
	Gotcha.
	So you were pretty much from like 18 to 25, 26 is the period of the relationship guy.
	Yeah.
	And was that your last relationship?
	It was my last like long-term relationship.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So would you say you've been single-ish for about three years?
	I kind of like kind of had a wild phase right after that relationship.
	Yeah, I definitely had a rebound dude who was awful, like my Pete Davidson, if you will.
	Okay.
	And we went to like swingers resorts and like did a bunch of crazy stuff, like fully participated.
	Needed to do that for myself.
	And but super not definitely like in a different place now.
	How did you describe it after the breakup?
	You had a, was it a crazy phase?
	What did what did you?
	I just got with this guy who was like really like brought like wanted to like disturb his own life and like probably wanted to disturb my life too.
	And he was just super chaotic and like trying to have sex with like everything that would move and like really didn't have a type.
	It was more just kind of like any and it honestly like that moves.
	Yeah, anything that moves and honestly, that's just like really exhausting after a while as a woman to like always feel like every situation could turn into a sexual situation the way this this guy obviously does, right?
	So that was just really exhausting, but it was also super fun for like three months.
	So I'm super glad I did that.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Gotcha.
	And you said currently you're seeing multiple guys.
	Yes.
	Currently I'm seeing like, I would say three guys and they're all pretty like, I want to say like high value men.
	You know what I mean?
	And they're super busy and I'm super busy and no one's really like being like, okay, this is where we're going.
	You know what I mean?
	But it's also kind of like, I don't know, it's pretty new for all of them.
	So we're seeing where it goes.
	You said there, you consider them high value men?
	I consider them high value men.
	What makes them high value?
	I think that I really like on a sapiosexual level, love what they've done with their careers and their lives, like as a fan almost of kind of like, hey, I don't really want your job, but like that's impressive.
	Good job.
	You know what I mean?
	Like I really, like, I don't want that, but like, I'm impressed that you did that.
	And because for me, with what I've built, a huge problem that I've, that I have that I didn't really honestly know, and I'm sure I'm going to get trolled for this.
	Like, I didn't know that OnlyFans would change my dating life to the level that it did when I first started because it was way long ago before people were talking about it on podcasts.
	And I was just figuring it out as I went.
	But now I have a bunch of followers and it is weird to date because I have to consider, are you trying to use me?
	Can you actually benefit my life?
	Is this a waste of my time?
	Should I just be at home making jewelry and doing my graphic design or doing camming for whatever, right?
	Making at least positive income instead of hanging out with you.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So that's kind of the new issue I have.
	Okay.
	So you're currently seeing three guys though.
	I'm currently seeing three guys.
	Two of them don't live in the same state.
	So it's kind of like more long distance.
	And then one of them is from the state, but I don't really, it's whatever.
	Do you consider it, because oftentimes I hear these terms like roster?
	Do you consider it a roster?
	No, because it's not a leaderboard.
	There's not like a faith, you know what I mean?
	It's not like a running leaderboard where everyone's a competition.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	How often, you said one of them does live in LA though.
	Yeah.
	How often?
	You're like, well, we're making it a competition.
	Whatever is going to make this a competition.
	That is how I laugh, homie.
	No.
	So he lives in LA.
	How often do you hang out with him?
	Man, this is, are we really talking about this right now?
	Okay, like probably twice a month.
	Twice a month?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And what about the two other guys?
	Once a month, maybe, less?
	Yeah.
	We're talking in between that.
	It's like, are there any other people in the picture that aren't?
	Someone just fell off.
	Okay, if we're going to call it a roster, someone just fell off the roster.
	One of the three?
	No, another one.
	Another one.
	Yeah, there was another one.
	He was an actor and he was really cool, but I honestly just like his life's too chaotic for me.
	And I'm kind of like, okay, I feel really stressed out having to like keep track of what you're up to.
	So I'm just not going to keep track of what you're up to.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Got it.
	Are these guys also seeing like multiple women?
	I would imagine.
	I don't ask, but it's because I know.
	Okay.
	Are you intimately involved with all three of them?
	Yeah.
	Having not all together as a group.
	Huh?
	Not as a group.
	Not like a polygamy type of thing, but you never know what these conversations are going to turn into.
	But you are, you're, you're hooking up with all of them.
	Yeah.
	Basically.
	Okay.
	I see.
	Are you ever worried that they're kind of just pursuing you for the sex?
	Um, maybe she's not sure if she maybe wants that.
	Yeah, so here's my thing.
	Like, there's a lot of relief in that.
	Because in the same way that a guy will be like gets a lot of relief and like paying girls to have sex, even if he's good looking and what, and everyone's like, why does he do that?
	You know what I mean?
	It's because there's a lot of pressure that gets taken away when it's kind of like, hey, these are the bounds in the terms of the relationship.
	If we decide that we want to talk about it beyond that, we can, but let's keep it really defined and simple for now, right?
	And there is kind of a lot of a lot less stress in that for me too.
	When it's like, hey, I'm not the only girl that you're hooking up with.
	I don't have to decide right now if we're going to get married because I honestly don't want to make that decision in my life right now.
	So marriage is something that you want eventually.
	I might potentially do want to get married, but I'm also not like, I know that whatever I do is going to be unconventional as fuck because that's pretty much how I've done my whole life.
	So I need to, what my therapist says, my objective needs to become very clear on what I want and what my goals are and actually track them out.
	And then basically just like make sure nothing disrupts that.
	And if the right person comes along that is on that vibe, then that's good.
	But otherwise, I'll just be victim to be like, okay, I'll become whatever you are.
	Okay, I'll become what you know what I mean.
	I need to just kind of watch my own stuff.
	That's fair.
	Would it be an acceptable situation for you if you eventually just never found anybody?
	Yeah, I've thought about that.
	And then right as I thought about the craziest stuff, like I was like really getting low like that.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, oh, maybe I just want to have anybody.
	And I was somewhat okay with it because I'm actually like, I have a lot of love in my life like this, right?
	But then just recently I was talking to somebody and was like, hey, so I really want a baby mama, but I really don't want a relationship.
	And I really need someone who's going to be a good mother, but who's also going to know that while we need things to look good and healthy for the kid, I can't be tracked.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I don't want to be kept tabs on.
	I don't want it to be a conventional relationship.
	But we could talk about the terms of that, but I know that that's unconventional and that it would be an arrangement.
	And I was like, you know what?
	That's actually the only terms in which I would have children.
	And that will dive in.
	We'll dive in.
	Yeah, this is like, yeah, we got to go to other people.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	What?
	Were you proposing there for a little bit?
	No, I'm just kidding.
	Oh, yeah.
	What do I have to do?
	Someone just fell off.
	Number four.
	Number four.
	They were like, so you're.
	Someone just fell off.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Go ahead.
	Happily married.
	How long have you guys been married?
	We've been married for a year and a half, going on for two years.
	So congratulations.
	Thank you.
	And was that, or is that your longest relationship?
	Yes.
	That you've had?
	Or meet someone.
	All right.
	And we might have your husband crash the show a little bit later.
	Yes.
	A little bit later.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Cool, cool.
	I like it was the phone call.
	Can I already pick your team?
	Can I already B team you?
	Yeah, you can.
	What?
	Go ahead.
	I'm Kendra.
	Oh, I already said that.
	I have relationship status.
	Oh, man.
	This is actually really crappy right now.
	So my ex-fiancé and I just broke up about five, six months ago, but it's all good.
	It was very toxic.
	Yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah, for two years I was paying the bills.
	And then he took my car that I was paying for and had a mistress for a year.
	So got out of that.
	I've been single for five, six months.
	I met a wonderful woman because I'm bisexual, pansexual, bisexual.
	But it's just like friends with benefits.
	Like me and her both need a man's presence, but not, we haven't been together with a man yet.
	But we both like date other men and then we just hang out.
	We're not really sexually intimate, but it's like more of a, so with women, it's more of like a cuddling, comforting, like a best friend, but you can make out or hang out or kiss or cuddle or not.
	Like there's no pressure.
	So it's nice to have that because when it comes to like creating what I create, it's very, very draining.
	Do you consider yourself bi or lesbian?
	I'm assuming bi, right?
	I mean, I'm more towards the women than the men, but like I said, you just had a fiancé who was a man.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I've only had long-term relationships with men, but I've been with women since I was very young.
	I see.
	Okay, so you're currently in a situationship with this woman.
	Yes.
	I see.
	Okay.
	What was the timeline?
	Sorry, if I missed it.
	Between ending that relationship, starting this new one?
	Two weeks.
	How long were you guys together?
	How long were you and your fiancé together?
	Four years.
	Four years?
	Okay, gotcha.
	Two of them were long distance.
	And that ended six months ago or July of 2023.
	Five, six months.
	She turned you on into women.
	I was already into women.
	When I met him, I was only with women for three and a half years.
	Okay, not to put her on blast, but the girl she's seeing her in, I was fucking hot.
	Woo!
	Like, I'm not, I'm more lean towards the male.
	Like, like, I, don't get me wrong, I, I've done a lot of content with men and I love hooking up with them, and I never want to, like, have that be off the table, right?
	But I'm really straight.
	And shit, but her girl is hot.
	Are you super straight?
	I'm like moderately straight.
	You're not that straight.
	I'm straight.
	Oh, no, I'm not straight, but I've got a little zig.
	You're not that straight.
	Okay.
	So, okay, your current situationship, according to her, is mega, super hot.
	Yeah, she's super hot, super fun.
	She's down to do anything.
	Like, I'm like, let's go to Six Flags right now.
	Let's do it.
	Okay.
	So.
	All right.
	Got it.
	And you said, but you're also dating some other men too, it sounds like.
	I wouldn't say dating.
	Sleeping with, having sex.
	Yes.
	Do you have a roster currently?
	Yeah.
	What's your roster?
	What's your roster looking like?
	Yeah, what's some numbers, numbers?
	I usually have five at all times, but I'm down to two right now because I'm just getting messy.
	Okay.
	They're getting two kind of things.
	Wait, two in addition to the woman?
	Definitely good.
	Hold on, let's do some math here.
	Let's do the math.
	They just get obsessive.
	I'm like, no.
	So is that like a rotation type of thing?
	Kind of.
	It's like if I'm bored, who's the closest?
	You know, whoever's the closest, I'll hit you up.
	No, I'm saying like the roster definition.
	Is that like some?
	I don't, I've never heard it before.
	It's like basically if you have a bunch of people you're talking to at the same time, and then everyone else defines it differently after that.
	But for me, it's like, and I've had this since I was probably like 14, 15.
	You've had the roster since.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Because I don't ever want to get married.
	I don't want kids.
	Like even my ex, we had a partnership, a life partnership.
	Clearly not fucked.
	Well, just because you don't want to get married and have kids doesn't necessarily mean that you have to have multiple partners.
	But I mean, I'm not saying that you can't move that way.
	But I don't like polygamy either.
	And I don't want my partner with anyone else.
	Yes, I am selfish.
	Yep.
	Hold on.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Double standards.
	I want to.
	If men can have double standards, I can too.
	So you want it open on your end but closed on theirs.
	Absolutely.
	But you said the current girl you're seeing, she's fucking other dudes.
	Because it's a dude.
	I can't give her that.
	I can give her something really similar if I strap it on right, but I can't give her that real thing.
	Okay, all right.
	Plus, I find it hot when a girl's with a guy, but I don't.
	Okay, wait, that's wait.
	So your male, if you had a male partner, you would not want him with women.
	Not without me there.
	I see.
	I'll just watch it.
	But you would, it'd be okay for you to be with other men when he's not there.
	Yes.
	And they're okay with that?
	They have to be or else they're not with me.
	Deuces.
	I ain't taking that deal.
	I don't know if it's a good one.
	I'm not a defense, but it wasn't all that hammer.
	You're not my type.
	You're a little too white.
	Oh.
	She knows what she likes.
	Hey, I'm fine with people having racial preferences.
	That's totally fine.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's a preference.
	More for them, I guess.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Good for them.
	Absolutely.
	for them um okay so uh so you roster wise what's the most so you said five is at the normal Right now, it's three, including the woman.
	What's like the most at one time that you've ever been seeing?
	Like a baker's dozen?
	What are we talking about?
	No, probably like five to six.
	Oh, five to six.
	Okay.
	And just going back to you, what's the, I know you said you currently got three.
	What's the most that, you know, roster, the biggest roster, the biggest roster.
	Is it more of an NBA team, more of an NFL team?
	I'm trying to think of it.
	My biggest roster probably happened when I was in high school.
	And it probably, like, you know what I mean?
	Like, that's when I did my most damage.
	And then I like got smart and I was like, you know what?
	I, yes, I can do this, obviously, but I should be smart about when I do this.
	And so in high school?
	Yeah.
	You have no idea what a slut I was in high school.
	Like, this girl saw it for herself.
	Excuse me.
	We can't.
	Like, I had like a threesome with two dudes and got like Eiffel Towered in high school.
	Like on an exodus party in the woodish lifetime.
	You know what I mean?
	That's an Eiffel Tower.
	We were crazy.
	You don't want to know.
	I actually do want to know.
	It's a non-bisexual, it's a non-bisexual male threesome.
	So there's like a bisexual male threesome and then there's a non-bisexual male threesome.
	They don't have an interaction with you.
	Yeah, they don't, they're more like, yeah, buddy.
	Like, I imagine that's like how they feel.
	At what age did you lose your virginity?
	15.
	15?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you said you did most of your damage in high school.
	Yeah.
	Because then I got into a relationship when I was like, really, yeah, yeah.
	So it was like, yeah.
	Okay.
	And even though he was horrible, he definitely like saved me some mileage.
	So whatever.
	I can't.
	I don't know why I played that one.
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay.
	Oh.
	So how big was your roster in high school?
	I mean, probably like, I think I probably like had, like, was in love with probably like six dudes at one time.
	And I was like, maybe one of them will love me.
	All at your high school or was it?
	Different.
	No, I was like, because I was out partying amongst like all of Orange County.
	We had like a couple of people.
	So yeah, we were, so we went to high school in Orange County.
	What high school can you say?
	I went to university high school, which is the same high school that Will Farrell is from.
	No, he went to Irvine.
	No.
	He went to uni.
	They talk about it.
	He started the get-go club at uni, and it's like their biggest, it's like the best thing they have going for them, except for me, but they can't talk about me because I have OnlyFans.
	Wait, what's the best?
	Will Farrell?
	It's me and Will Farrell from uni, from university high school.
	And Lil Ferrell had a lot of people.
	No, no, no.
	We both went to Ray.
	No, no, no.
	We both went to university high school in Irvine.
	That's like our graduating class.
	Yeah, our graduating high school.
	So we're the two coolest things to come out of that.
	Cool?
	Okay.
	Wait, so okay.
	So, okay, it was a bunch of other high school, like, a bunch of other high schools.
	Yeah, so it was like, there's this like culture in Orange County where you like make friends from other Orange County high schools and everybody goes to these crazy parties all around because it's like a bunch of like rich kids with mansions and their parents like just don't pay attention to them, right?
	They're always gone.
	So they're always gone.
	And so these kids have like parties to make friends and whatever.
	So there's a whole group of people like that.
	So it's like very common to meet a bunch of different people from other high schools.
	And I was just like, well, this is a great way to make friends.
	Let's have sex and like confirm our alliance.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	I mean, if there's one way to describe like Orange County families, it's absentee parents.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And pill poppers.
	And their kids party when they're gone, right?
	So it's like, if you're an Orange County parent, just know your kid is absolutely doing bad stuff to you.
	Are you from OC?
	I'm not from OC.
	I live in OC.
	Yeah, no.
	So you see it.
	Like, it's like they have like Mercedes-Benz.
	And you're like, why do you have this car?
	It's wild.
	Yeah, and they're like drunk drive crashes.
	There's like no adult supervision.
	Exactly.
	I got upset that I really went.
	I was upset I got a scion and not a BMW because my family told me I was going to BMW.
	Gosh.
	I got my assigned for not having a Mercedes.
	Yeah.
	That's how it was.
	If you didn't get it, you're getting bullied.
	And we're like, what if we don't have the money?
	Okay.
	Then you get bullied for not having the money.
	Good talk.
	Streets are hard out there where I'm going to go.
	I asked my mom for a car.
	She just looked at me and I went away.
	I was like, what about you?
	I'm single.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	That is all I have.
	So, single.
	How long have you been single?
	Probably about since January.
	Almost a year.
	Okay, since January.
	Okay.
	Longest relationship?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	My longest relationship is about two years.
	Two years?
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	And in that one-year period of time, but you've been dating, though, I'm assuming, right?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I was seeing a guy for about six months of that.
	Okay.
	On and off.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Married.
	Been married for six years.
	My longest relationship in Sweden was 11 years.
	Met my ex when I was 19.
	He was 10 years older.
	We broke up because it just didn't work.
	I dated a little bit in between that and then I met my husband.
	I actually slid into his DM.
	You slid into your husband's DM?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He thought I was a cam girl or selling glass Ray-Bans.
	It was either Or.
	And we're just.
	It's generally hard for men to believe that women will slide into their DMs.
	I did that.
	I was like, hey, you're hot.
	It's usually like a scam or computer virus or the link is coming.
	Exactly, exactly.
	Just send the link.
	Yeah.
	Let's give it a link.
	So we started talking, but he was like, it was so weird.
	You spoke fluent Swedish.
	So he was like, I was very confused.
	So we started talking.
	And he was like, so what are you into?
	I was like, the butt.
	And he was like, yeah.
	And that's.
	Oh.
	I misunderstood his question.
	And he was like, he knew I was the one for him.
	That was the fact that you mentioned being into butt stuff.
	Like you pegging?
	No.
	Well.
	Oh, you received that?
	Well, I mentioned that too.
	So any takers, please.
	Wait, what do you mean, takers?
	You have a husband.
	Yeah, the thing is, he's not into it, right?
	Into what?
	The pegging part.
	Wait, is it you guys got an open marriage?
	Yes.
	Only for pegging, though.
	No, so we do, we do.
	What happened was, so this is, if you marry a guy who loves women, either you let him or you leave him, right?
	So either you're fine with him, you know, open on his end, closed on your end, or open?
	No, I mean, if I went to him and said, hey, babe, this is something I really want to do, like I met somebody that I really vibe with sexually, like, would it be fine?
	We would have that discussion.
	I just haven't really met that person yet.
	I'm very particular with my men.
	So wait, you guys see other people then?
	Are you guys swingers?
	No.
	Well, I mean, we have had like multiple women in our bedroom.
	Actually, the first time I came to America to visit him, three days into that visit, we had a threesome with a lady that was like 62.
	Wait, 62?
	Yeah.
	She was hot, though.
	She was really good looking.
	No, like for real.
	There's some hot yelfs out there running around.
	Yeah.
	Hot take.
	I don't know if there's such a thing as a hot 62-year-old.
	No, she's hot.
	How old was Nina Hartley?
	Who?
	Oh, never mind.
	Who the fuck is that?
	She had like a six-pack.
	Like, she was good looking.
	If she wasn't hot, I wouldn't go for it.
	To be fair, like, the best way that a woman can maintain her beauty is, yeah, go to the gym.
	So I feel that, but 62 is pushing it.
	Yeah, she was, I thought she was good looking, though.
	I wouldn't have done it if I didn't find her attractive.
	Gonna get canceled by all the 62-plus-year-olds out there.
	Exactly.
	But yeah, so that happened.
	What's up, Nick?
	On center?
	Looks okay.
	Are people complaining?
	I don't know.
	I just noticed it.
	I'll take a look at it here in a sec.
	Okay, but so you guys.
	So, you know, what happened was this was like back and forth on how we're going to manage this because he was very open with me from day one.
	He was like, listen, this is me.
	I like women.
	I probably won't be super faithful if that's what you're looking for.
	And I was like, I really like him.
	We vibe.
	You know, this is awesome.
	And I'm not, I'm pretty open when it comes to sexuality.
	I don't really judge anybody.
	Like, for me, it's like, stay safe, do whatever you want.
	So I was like, back and forth, am I comfortable with it?
	We tried it out, and I wasn't uncomfortable with it, you know?
	I was like, you know, having threesome is fun.
	I'm not super bi, but like, I love beautiful women.
	I support them.
	You know, we had a good time.
	So.
	Wait, do you sleep with other men?
	No.
	Uh-huh.
	But you're able to sleep with other women?
	Yes.
	Alone?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Do you?
	Or you just have.
	I mean, yes, that has happened.
	What about him?
	He does.
	He does it, yes.
	Sleep with other women.
	Yeah.
	Without you?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I just don't find that.
	I'm not a person.
	I'm not jealous.
	I don't.
	I'm pretty alpha.
	So I don't really.
	And if you want to leave me for somebody else, I'm not going to stop you.
	You know, I'm not going to be like, oh, please don't leave me.
	I don't give a fuck.
	I'm sorry.
	Hold on, just to be clear.
	Let me just clarify.
	So if your husband were to leave you, you wouldn't give a fuck.
	No, I don't mean it like that.
	Of course, I would be upset.
	It would be sad.
	It would be a divorce, but it's not like I'm going to beg somebody to stay with me.
	If you don't love me and you met somebody else, I'm not going to try to keep you because that's pathetic and embarrassing for me.
	So, you know, I mean, it's fine.
	We would probably have, like me and my ex, everything was fine on the breakup.
	He got upset, yeah, but after a while, you know, we solved it.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Married four years now, and that's my longest relationship.
	You're in a relationship?
	Four years, and it's your longest.
	Oh, I forgot to ask, how long have you been in the U.S. for?
	Four years.
	Oh, four years.
	So you met him right away?
	Yeah, we got married like in 10 months.
	Oh, you got married within three months?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I see.
	Okay, married within three.
	Is he also, you said you're Ukrainian.
	Is he also Ukrainian?
	No, no.
	He's from Texas, but he lives in California for like 10 years.
	He's American.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	He's from Texas.
	He lives in California like for 10 years.
	I came to California for business and then I stayed.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I am married.
	My first anniversary was a couple days ago.
	Congratulations.
	Thank you.
	So one year about my longest relationship was about four years.
	It's not with my husband.
	I did also marry my husband three months after meeting him and I freaking adore him.
	Wait, so you both got married within three months of yeah, so my you two?
	I got married within four months.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Wait, four months?
	Three months.
	Three months.
	Six months.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	All right.
	So can I just say, like, the first time I saw him, I thought, I mean, he's a great-looking guy, but one of my best friends was his best friend.
	So there was definitely a good reference, you know.
	And we've had our ups and downs from getting married so soon without really knowing each other.
	But it's overall been a great experience, and I've learned a lot and I've grown a lot as a person.
	So I'm grateful.
	Okay.
	And you, does anybody here have children?
	I do.
	Children?
	Okay, you have just one kid, two kids?
	I have one daughter.
	She's 12.
	And that's from your previous relationship?
	No, that was like for my first relationship.
	I was really young.
	I was 18 when I had her.
	Oh, you were 18.
	Okay.
	Are you wanting more kids?
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	Okay.
	At least two more.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	All right.
	And Mason, what about you?
	Yeah.
	Single.
	Been single for probably a few months now.
	Yeah, longest relationship was about a year.
	One year.
	And you've been on the show a couple times.
	Have you been bombarded with women in your DMs wanting to date you?
	I've definitely gotten a few women who are interested.
	Yeah?
	Are you talking with any?
	Nothing too serious right now.
	Okay.
	I mean, one or two have stuck out, but nothing has progressed.
	And since maybe some of the viewers know, some of them might not, the panel I think here, they don't know.
	What are you, how are you maneuvering when it comes to the dating world?
	Yeah.
	Well, so I'm sure you'll get to this eventually, but I'm a virgin.
	I've never had sex.
	It's something I'm saving for my wife.
	Yeah, that's extremely important to me.
	I know the statistics when it comes to sex before marriage, how it can hurt future relationships, your ability to bond with other people.
	So I'm saving that for her, trying to honor God with that.
	There are plenty of things I'm.
	Oh, yeah, go for it.
	Do you want the girl you meet to also be a virgin, or it doesn't matter?
	I mean, how important is it?
	Yeah, if I could pick, I would rather her be a virgin.
	But it's not.
	Wait, if you get what?
	No, if I could pick.
	Oh, you could pick.
	If I had the choice, yeah.
	I would rather her be a virgin just because I know.
	You have the choice, Mason.
	You have the choice.
	You got the choice.
	I got the choice.
	You got your body your choice.
	Yeah.
	Indeed, yes.
	Yes.
	Pretty.
	Well, it's not easy that he has the choice.
	I think just in terms of, I think you have the optionality to do it.
	Because listen, you're tall, fit, handsome, smart, successful.
	Mason, you are not settling for a non-virgin.
	I agree.
	I refuse to allow it.
	Okay.
	And also, don't you want to date?
	Like, don't you want to be with someone who's also gone through that fundamentally different life experience?
	Like, that's not a life experience I can relate with at all.
	And that probably has so many parts of it.
	So it's like, I'd imagine you'd want someone who at least understands it, right?
	Understands like waiting for marriage or waiting for you.
	Someone who also waited for a marriage, even you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, like, okay, speaking ideally, yes, I would want someone who waited for marriage.
	Realistically, it's not likely gonna happen.
	I got you.
	I got you, dude.
	No, no, Wait, don't you have any nice Christian girls that you know?
	Hold on.
	Yeah, I got you.
	Hold on.
	You got options.
	I have over a million followers.
	And a lot of my girls are virgins who are like waiting for marriage.
	And I was one of those as well.
	So, like, that's extremely respectable.
	You have options.
	Thank you.
	Oh, you were, you also.
	Yeah, I waited.
	Really?
	Yeah, good, good.
	Not like born-again virgin.
	Like, no, legit.
	I had a beauty ring and everything.
	Born-again virgin?
	No.
	You're wrong.
	Yeah, like, do people believe in born-again virgins?
	Like, what do you think?
	Yeah, there are people who believe in it.
	Generally, the people that espouse that are how do I want to say that?
	No, I mean, but it's like a sinning.
	It's all gay.
	No, no, it's more like they want to absolve all accountability.
	They don't want to work through the relationship baggage.
	So they want to find somebody who's just going to be like, ah, I'm just going to ignore all of that.
	Because eventually, you got to start to work through that.
	Okay, these are the other guys I've been with.
	These are the connections I've made.
	We got to work through that.
	So it's a lot of work.
	And it's not like I'm not willing to go through that, but it's a lot of work.
	It's a lot of deprogramming that I have to go through with this potential other person.
	Yeah.
	You're good, bro.
	You don't need, you can find the virgin.
	No, I believe you're out there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And if even if you did have to work through it, that girl is going to be your dream girl, and you wouldn't mind it either.
	You wouldn't mind.
	He might mind.
	He might mind.
	Just saying.
	As his godfather, as his godfather, he's going to mind.
	I'm going to be there.
	I'm your best man for your wedding.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, it's already determined, right?
	We just met like a couple days ago.
	The vibe is on.
	Bro, we felt it.
	We felt romance.
	No, no, no.
	Like, Mason, you, I, I will, you know, what with weddings that they say, yeah, speak now or forever hold your peace.
	If there anybody objects, I don't think that's.
	You're standing up.
	I don't think they actually do that shit, but I'm going to stand up, be like, nah, she's not the one, bro.
	She's not a virgin.
	That's not it.
	Okay.
	No, how do you know she's not a virgin?
	No, hyman, no diamond.
	So how did you find that out?
	That's what I want to know.
	And just like, I don't want to do like fake news.
	You can, even if your hymen isn't not intact, you can still be a virgin, bro.
	Correct.
	But as just a matter of speech.
	Wait, what was the question?
	How do you find out if she's a virgin?
	Yeah, I was asking you.
	I was implying something.
	Oh, how do I find out?
	Oh, my goodness.
	No, that went over.
	Like, are you asking if I would.
	I was implying that you had already been with his wife before he married her.
	What?
	Is that like Prima Nocta?
	Krima Nocta.
	I think back in the 1500s, lords would call dibs on a dude's.
	Did you know they liked to watch?
	That's totally messed up.
	They're fucked up.
	They had women give birth so they could watch it for their pleasure back then.
	So weird.
	They had nothing to do with that.
	So weird.
	They had nothing back then.
	Yeah.
	That was their entertainment.
	The kings made me the kings for the power.
	That was the adult industry.
	Yep.
	The fuck?
	15.
	That was a peep show back then when they had nothing.
	People have been degenerate since the beginning of time.
	You know, really?
	Since the books.
	Aren't Jezebels in it libel?
	It used to be worse.
	Yeah.
	Yep.
	There we go.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, there we go.
	We've gone around the table.
	I want to get into some of my pre-show notes here that some of you guys have so kindly provided.
	So I think the first one, and there's a lot of things that we have to react to that we have to get to.
	So we're going to try to move as quickly as possible to try to get through it.
	Let's start with here.
	Who are we going to start with?
	I think we're going to start with Abigail.
	You did.
	You had this TikTok video.
	It kind of went viral.
	Matt Walsh from the Daily Wire reacted to it.
	Why don't we watch the whole thing?
	The TikTok.
	We'll watch a short segment from Matt Walsh's thing.
	And yeah, well.
	Awesome.
	Whoa.
	Lovely.
	Flattering.
	At least you still look pretty.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead and just came to the realization why I'm single.
	Mm.
	Every guy that I'm like, oh, yeah, he's attractive.
	Okay, this is not supposed to be offensive.
	But I see their wives and they just look like so, like, you know?
	Like, not like this.
	Just like, you know, like, I pretend my tattoos are gone.
	Dude, I'm I look crazy.
	Like, that's why guys don't want to wipe me up.
	And I just come to this realization today.
	See you!
	I love that.
	Or maybe it's because all of them see me eat sushi after I get out of the grocery store in my car with my bare fingers and drink sweet tea.
	Oh no.
	Guys, I thought these men wanted, like, you know, big, strong, tough girls.
	I don't know.
	I feel like all of them are like, like, super girly, and all these guys are like, yeah, that's my girl.
	That's just like housewife stuff.
	And I'm over here like, I own my own business.
	I'm covered in tattoos.
	I'm a little spazzy, but that's okay.
	We embrace it.
	But yeah, I don't think any guy's gonna wipe me up because they can't take me seriously.
	And I just realized that.
	Damn.
	The video froze for a second.
	Pause it for a second.
	Let's read some of the comments.
	Let's read for a while.
	Nick, can you move us over?
	Nathan says, it's the eyelashes for me.
	Fake eyelashes are a complete turn off.
	Yeah, you think that's a good idea.
	I can see that.
	Scroll down a little bit.
	I think whatever.
	On that.
	Nose ring.
	And what?
	Okay, I don't like the tooth thing.
	Okay, I know.
	I was like, dang, I'm passed out.
	I don't know what they're saying about nose rings.
	It seems like a lot of people don't like the nose ring.
	Oh, maybe Harry likes Cecil's 100.
	I don't know.
	So you posted this.
	It went viral.
	What's your take on it going viral?
	And well, I didn't think it was going to go viral.
	Number one, like, I just do random, like, ranting videos in my car sometimes.
	Was that pre-gym or post-gym?
	That was post-gym.
	I could tell you.
	I couldn't tell from my hair and my pump.
	Not from the hair, but it was more like the arm pump.
	No, well, the arm pump, but like the general exhaustion that you exuded.
	Yeah, my brain freezing.
	Yeah, the brain freezing and workout.
	Yeah.
	I had my sweet tea in my hand.
	Yeah, I just got done eating sushi in my car.
	Okay.
	Yeah, so I don't know.
	I just never thought it was going to go viral like that, but I really do.
	The girls I do see with their husbands are very, like, you know, they're very cutesy.
	They don't have any tattoos.
	They don't have any piercings.
	They don't look like big lifter girls.
	And then the ones that I do see that have like piercings tattoos and lift with their husbands are in an open relationship.
	No offense.
	But they're in an open relationship and they're just like not committed to each other.
	And I just, I just never see like, you know, commitment just one-on-one and just with each other with people that look like me and are at the gym and stuff.
	And that's what I look for.
	And I feel like I've struggled with that a lot because everyone at the gym sees me and they don't take me seriously.
	And I want a serious relationship and I feel like it just hasn't been possible for me yet.
	And you think that's due to your appearance or your demeanor?
	What would you do?
	I think so.
	And my demeanor is very alpha at the gym because I own my own personal training business.
	And if the right guy comes along and he leads the relationship, I don't mind having, I don't want that alpha attitude at home.
	Like I already have to do it at work.
	But guys think I want to do that like at home too, and I don't.
	So I'm very misconceived because of what I do and what I look like.
	So are you looking for a man that you can submit to or step under?
	I don't mind letting a man lead if he's going to do it right.
	If he provides for me, I'm going to provide it.
	Yeah, yeah, given that you find a man who is, I could like a man that is, you identify as I would put myself under his leadership and I would follow him to the ends of the earth.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Carlo, you're the woman's dating coach, relationship expert.
	What do you think?
	First of all, I do want to say that there, you don't have to look a specific way.
	I know that I look a specific way, but girl, I'm thick, and I used to think that too.
	I used to think there's no man that's going to like me the way I am.
	I'm Latina.
	I have curves.
	Like, I know what I have and I know what I don't have.
	But what I would say is there's someone for everyone.
	And I will admit that there is like this yin and yang when it comes to feminine energy and masculine energy.
	I know that those two terms are overused time and time again.
	And I will say appearances do matter.
	I literally just made a video on like beauty is currency, but you're beautiful and you know, you go, and I feel like you, you know, you, you're a business owner.
	I'm a business owner too.
	So it's just like learning how to manage that feminine energy and presenting it in the right way in the right rooms and putting yourself in the right places.
	So that's like.
	And a lot of people see me at the gym and I present myself in a very almost like, you know, alpha dominant way because I'm training people.
	I'm taking control of the situation.
	Can you meet someone outside of the gym?
	Or do you literally there all the time?
	I don't go out.
	I don't do anything.
	Would you date a guy who isn't, you know?
	Does he have to be a gym?
	Does he have to be a gym guy?
	Does he have to be?
	He could be like a dad ball.
	I mean, I would prefer it because I'm very heavily involved and I like it.
	Right commonality.
	But you'd be open to dating a guy with a dad bod, for example.
	Yes, I have.
	I believe that's the best way to do it.
	What if you're like better for you?
	Like not maybe the dad bod, but like what they do for you in your life.
	I mean, would you like, but like.
	I'm open.
	Yeah.
	I'm still open.
	You had something?
	Go ahead.
	I mean, I know from myself and the way I look, if I wasn't married, I'd probably be single as well because I'm very alpha.
	I joke like a dude and I have a deeper voice.
	I was born with this voice, so I know I get a lot of shit for it, but that's fine.
	But I would probably be single just because I'm alpha outwards, but I'm submissive to the man I'm with if he has the right energy.
	So, you know, I feel you on that because I get that a lot on my Instagram and TikTok, you know, that we don't like muscle.
	You have something?
	Go ahead.
	Well, and my most recent ex, going into it, he was the alpha.
	By the end, he was the sub.
	So, because of my masculine energy, it kind of put him down and he couldn't handle it.
	Is that kind of what you just saw as like the end of the relationship?
	Was kind of that shift?
	Yeah, because he couldn't provide for me anymore.
	So, I was financially providing, I was emotionally providing, and I was turned off.
	I was like, I'm not doing this anymore.
	Okay.
	So, I actually help women to kind of, not kind of, but to learn how to balance those two energies out because it is, I mean, for myself as well, like I was extremely masculine or very independent, very dominant, but I had to learn how to work through it.
	And it was because I was on survival mode.
	So, I speak on survival mode a lot.
	And so, when you were saying, how if you're providing all the time, it's exhausting.
	And so, you really want to look for a man that can lead.
	And I think all of us are, well, for at least myself, at the time that I was single, I was looking for a man that could lead and make me feel safe because it's so easy for a woman to be able to submit to a man when she feels loved, safe, protected, and provided for.
	It's like an instinct.
	But to find a man like that, it can be very challenging.
	So, that's why I'm here.
	And I stepped into the dating market to try to fix it.
	Yeah, and then on top of it, like when guys come across girls.
	Hold on just one sec.
	Oh my god, I didn't change it.
	I'm not gay, but I do go gay for Mason.
	His piercing Garza cuts through my soul like hot knife through butter ever since I discovered Mason.
	I got off Viagra.
	Please take the mic with your commanding voice.
	I'm flattered, Derek.
	Do you want to say anything to Derek the Trader?
	I mean, I don't swing that way, but uh thank you.
	That's a massive compliment.
	Anyway, I can help.
	Were you able to understand through the thick Japanese accent?
	It should be changed now.
	It should be changed.
	It's back to the sorry, Derek the Trader.
	It's back to the British.
	Yeah, I definitely didn't read the comment.
	I listened to the Japanese and was like, oh, yes, I understand.
	Yeah, you vibed it.
	You vibed it.
	I vibe the thing is, though, I think on the whole like submissive thing, whatever, I think you said kind of instinctually women want a man to be a leader.
	But there's programming in society, typically from feminism, which tells women to go be boss babes and to, you know, you can be that leader.
	So, so I think what you have is, despite women, women still, like on some, as you said, instinctual level, want a leader, yet it's not clear to me if, granted, and I think men are also failing at this too, in the sense that there's a lot of men that are not up to par, but I also think that even if they do find a man who's up to par, a lot of women are not prepared to follow.
	They want to be led, but they don't, because in order to be led, you need to be a follower.
	That's the paradigm.
	So I think a lot of women are not prepared to be followers.
	Well, I have something to add.
	Sure.
	I used to struggle with my balance of feminine and masculine energy because I work a lot and it is super easy to fall.
	You have to get stuff done, and it is hard, right?
	But I've met guys recently where it's like, Yeah, like I have no problem submitting to you.
	I feel safe.
	Like, whether or not you're having a drink and you say a stupid joke or whatever thing that happens that makes me slightly disrespect you in that moment, you're still my leader.
	You know what I mean?
	Wait, hold on.
	Like, wait, wait.
	So, hold on.
	Listen, we're humans, right?
	Like, if a guy, if you've heard, for example, this is like eight years in a relationship thing when you've heard the exact same joke said the same way 30 million times and you have to laugh because he's around his friends or whatever, and you don't want it.
	It's like he needs his moment to say his joke that you've heard for the 30 millionth time, and you can't take away his flowers for that, right?
	So, it's like stuff like that, where you're just like, Okay, you might have done this little thing that like triggered me a little bit, but like you know what I mean?
	Like, you just need to like no, I don't know what you mean by disrespecting your partner.
	What do you mean?
	No, like it's like you might, as a woman, get the urge sometimes to be like, Wow, I don't like that he did that.
	I want to say something.
	I want to like, you know, he's trying to like, say you're out with your partner and he's trying to like the attention's on him, the conversation's on him, and you just the wife doesn't like something he does or did or said or moved, and she just like makes a face like while he's trying, you know, that's something I see a lot, right?
	Just like out closely.
	You're not saying that's like a good thing.
	I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying, yeah, no, absolutely.
	Okay, go ahead.
	So, I am gonna say, I would, what I'm noticing a lot on Instagram with this whole like because you know, things become trends, right?
	And I am seeing that a lot of people are getting into this like femininity, masculinity.
	Like, all right, I think everyone's getting it wrong.
	It doesn't mean like if you give your husband or boyfriend like a staying phase, that's not what it means, right?
	Like, for example, I am Christian and I do go by the Bible, but a lot of what the Bible does say it just makes sense, right?
	So, basically, what it is is when you're gonna be submissive, it doesn't mean like you don't have a voice, it doesn't mean you can't have a business, it doesn't mean you can't have alpha energy, it's just that so in the like this is I know this in Spanish, I don't know like the verse because I'm not great at that, but it does say that when a woman gets really annoying, she'll like destroy her home, right?
	So, you just have it's not about being submissive, like, oh, I'm gonna listen to what you say, I'm not going to like talk back, whatever.
	No, it's more of like you just have to analyze and think about how you're gonna direct your home, right?
	You're not putting out difficult energy, like yeah, I mean, yeah, the Bible has you have to understand that men are logical beings, we're emotional, so that's our balance.
	It's not about like submissive of like, and like I think everyone's starting to get it wrong, it's just like whatever what we both bring into the into a marriage, what it should be into the marriage.
	We're both giving each other what it needs back and forth, right?
	We're not logical, but we can be smart and kind of lead that way, and men are gonna lead in a different way, so we can still be leaders.
	Yeah, I mean, it's uh, it's better to live on the corner of a roof than in a house with a contentious woman, yeah.
	Thank you, or are you is that what Proverbs 21:19 says?
	I think it's phrased differently depending on the it depends on the translation, but yeah, but I've heard better to live in the desert than with a nagging and quarrelsome.
	That's another one, go ahead.
	I think when you go out with your husband and he does something and you just stare at him, you like for me personally, I just don't want to take the fight in public.
	I'll do it if I have to.
	It's just I don't want to because it's gonna cause a scene and it's embarrassing.
	Yeah, you should do that shit privately.
	So, I don't, I don't think it has to do with you being what are what?
	So, what are these embarrassing things that your husbands and boyfriends are doing?
	I mean, my ex was like Abusive, so he would say things about, for example, my body I didn't like in front of other people in public, yeah, in public when we were like hanging out.
	Like, that's a yikes.
	Stuff like that was, you know, I could take the fight and I could be like, Well, you're fat, so yeah, I mean, I could do it.
	It's like a healthy relationship, yes, super healthy.
	Yeah, that's why we were you had something, go ahead.
	Yeah, my recent ex, when he was alpha, uh, we'd be out and about, you know, whatever.
	And if there's something he's told me to do, it's like, hey, come over here, stand here.
	But it was a separate, a different type of voice than like a concerned but angry voice, I knew to be like, don't question him, do it.
	Follow his word, follow his lead.
	And every time it was because he was protecting me from someone on the other side he saw coming at me, looking at me.
	So like that type of submission, yes, 100%.
	I also think that women have gone too extreme with the, I'm a boss.
	I don't need anyone.
	It's like, but everyone needs someone.
	I mean, men are just wired to be protectors.
	Exactly.
	So they see those threats.
	Like, that's just what they are.
	Brain, what in the name of all that is holy do you have on?
	Don't tell me you've developed some kind of kink with that thing.
	Wait, what?
	Oh, this thing.
	Oh, this is like a massage tool.
	My back's hurting.
	So it's not like a.
	It does look funny.
	It's not like a kink.
	Although this part looks a little phallic, I get it.
	Are you sure about that?
	Hey, I've seen a lot of people in the fitness industry use those things.
	What are they called?
	Shepherd's crooks?
	That's what I use it all.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, you know, my back's been bugging me.
	So, all right.
	Oh, you have something quick?
	Then I do want to move on a little bit, but go ahead.
	Yeah, so I really want to put the place of blame on the public school education.
	So I think that's, it's not women or men's fault.
	I think it's the way that the public school system is ran.
	They're going too far with being a boss babe and things like that.
	That all stems from the public school system.
	And same thing with like men being too feminine.
	Hello?
	That's like a big, big, big thing that I don't see a lot of people talking about, but it needs to be addressed.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	And then just coming back to your video here.
	You got the septum piercing.
	Is it one of those that like tucks away?
	I took it out to get a tighter, smaller one because that's what I got it pierced with, and I didn't even like it because it was too big for me.
	And I think it did look kind of ridiculous.
	Oh, sorry.
	I think it did look kind of ridiculous.
	But I ended up taking it out, couldn't get a smaller one back in, so I just left it out.
	And so since that video, when was that?
	Like a month or a month ago or something?
	A month or two, something like that.
	Have you just been inundated, bombarded with a bunch of DMs from guys?
	Because how many we talked about?
	Marriage proposals and everything.
	I had a guy call the gym from Florida, ask for me to train him, and then he sent me a proposal, like a marriage proposal, like on text.
	I love it.
	Did you call the cops?
	That's cute.
	No.
	Did you accept?
	Yeah, following it.
	So, like, how do your DMs look?
	Did you get like hundreds, thousands of DMs?
	What are we talking here?
	I can't even count the ones on Instagram.
	They're all like in the middle of the time I have to like scroll, scroll, scroll.
	I didn't even start to look for them.
	You don't have time for that.
	You have your options and stuff.
	You know, one thing that I think is interesting.
	So if a woman goes online and makes some woe is me video about dating, complains about dating, that they get no guys, whatever it is, she's going to get bombarded with suitors.
	Whereas if a guy goes online, does the same thing, woe is me, oh, no girls want me, blah, blah, blah.
	I don't know if as many women would DM him as the reverse, which I think is interesting.
	Grid one, guys.
	Donated $100.
	For F's sake, let's be honest.
	You are too busy mistaking loser bad boys for Top G to recognize Alpha if you met one, so stop looking.
	Make yourself worth finding.
	Men are hunters beat prime.
	Can I just ask this person, what do you do for a job?
	Like, what is your motorsport?
	Like, obviously.
	Because this woman has her own business.
	Like, she's successful.
	She's gorgeous.
	What do you have to offer, Dana?
	I don't really.
	Can I say, I mean, she does, she did say that she spends a lot of time at the gym.
	And sometimes, like, you just have to branch off, you know, like go into different environments.
	I mean, yeah, I can speak to this.
	So, I mean, I know a lot of elite powerlifters, and powerlifting and just the fitness industry in general is extremely degenerate.
	So, I, yeah.
	Well, I mean, like, can you like life coach us all?
	I don't know.
	Like, group rate for life coaching.
	Group rate.
	But I agree with you.
	It's pretty dark.
	I was going to say, same thing.
	Mechanical.
	Yeah, I don't know if that's his.
	I was going to add on to that.
	I was going to say, you know, unfortunately, in the fitness industry, and I, because I, you know, I've been working out for eight years, people that, for the most part, people that love to work out, it's very like because of vanity.
	It's not so much for health, you know?
	So a lot, there could be a lot of people that are a little bit superficial and might not be.
	Not that I'm saying that it's the case, but I would say I would rather, like, my husband wasn't like big on working out.
	He did like it, but he didn't spend most of his time there.
	You know, his mind was more in like making money and stuff like that.
	Where did you guys meet at?
	Through a friend.
	Through a friend.
	So I got lucky.
	I've had like pretty good luck finding good like men in my life.
	But what I was going to say is, I do think that it would be better to find someone that's not.
	Sorry, thank you.
	It would be better maybe to find someone that's not like into the gym and you can like make him because everybody eventually wants to work out.
	They want to look great and you can inspire them.
	So I actually have dated.
	I mean, I went on a few dates with a guy that didn't go to the gym.
	A couple guys that didn't really go to the gym.
	And it was like they didn't understand my life.
	They didn't understand my lifestyle.
	They didn't understand why I ordered the way I did.
	They almost found it kind of embarrassing and it made me feel embarrassed to go out to eat with them.
	And then on top of that, like they made me feel like I was almost the man in the relationship because I felt kind of bigger than them and more powerful than them, like in my muscles.
	Okay.
	I can't adjust to that actually because I compete.
	Yeah.
	And so, you know, when you're in a cut, you have to be with somebody that understands a cut.
	Because the way you become under during a cut, I mean, if a person doesn't understand the fitness industry, he's not going to be able to support you because it's a lot of time, effort, energy.
	You're tired.
	It's a heart.
	It's hard.
	But I think you do need to do that.
	So bodybuilding is extremely difficult.
	Yeah, but I think you would just need a supporting husband or a partner.
	Like, I don't think they necessarily need to be in that industry.
	Yeah, okay.
	So I will say, I saw, I hung out with her.
	And like, we've been through a lot in our friendship because we've been friends for a while too.
	And when she was cutting right before her competition, I swear I almost beat your face.
	Like, I was so mad at you so many times.
	I was just like, you are the most obnoxious bitch right now.
	And I can't wait for you to fucking stop this competition.
	I'm so glad it's over, you guys.
	But no, they're really like, they're starving and they're assholes and they're testosterone, like even for the women because they're like ready to compete.
	And it's like, wait, are you talking?
	You two?
	Yeah, I've known her for a really long time, too.
	Yeah.
	She's been friends for a long time.
	Yeah.
	And so you guys were housemates or living outside?
	Yeah, we like when she comes to health, she stays with me.
	You guys would get into like fights?
	Well, I was walking on excellence because I knew what was going on.
	I was like, okay, this is just like her fitness thing.
	You know what I mean?
	She's just, we're in the final stages.
	Like, she's going to be kind of crazy right now.
	Okay.
	Like, yeah.
	I got something for this.
	I got something.
	We don't have to be friends.
	No, we don't.
	And then you were.
	Yeah, we've been messing with you.
	You guys have been beefing too often.
	Yeah, well, we've got a lot of people.
	Quality family guy reference.
	Yeah, it's all.
	All right.
	Let's go to the matt.
	Is there one other TikTok video from Abigail?
	Oh, yes.
	All right, let's play it really quick.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Let's take a look.
	I'm going to comment about Matt Walsh.
	Go ahead.
	I'm in the Charlotte sign, and I've come to a realization that every single one of my exes after me has went to a girl that is short, blonde, no tattoos, and doesn't lift.
	What's happening?
	I'm not joking, every single one of them.
	I'm like, so someone tell me, preferably a man, why you guys go to the complete opposite after, I guess, a failed relationship.
	But like, we're still on decent terms.
	Like, if we seen them, I wouldn't be like, oh, boy.
	No, we'd be like, hey, what's up?
	So, yeah.
	Ladies, put a finger down.
	If every single one of your exes has gone to the opposite version of you every single time you break up and you don't understand why, and you just want the men to answer.
	So someone explains.
	Okay.
	So all your exes, like, you're, how tall are you?
	Six foot.
	You're six foot.
	So all your exes end up with like petite blonde women and you know, tats.
	Yep.
	And they usually don't go to the gym.
	Or if they do, they just follow them to the gym.
	Have you turned anyone gay?
	So funny story.
	Oh, I had a ex that I met at the gym a few years back.
	He was a great guy, really good to me.
	But he sent me this guy to train.
	I'm not going to disclose any names, but I found out later down the road that he met this guy on Grinder and he pretended to be his friend.
	Yep.
	And they were having sex in our bed of the house we just got together.
	And the guy I was training, I ended up training the guy he was sleeping with at the time.
	He told me and disclosed everything to me.
	And the guy I was seeing was actually out on military training.
	He came back to an empty home.
	I had left, not said anything.
	I was just like, hey, I know what you've done.
	Please don't try to argue with me.
	He told me everything, showed me proof.
	So I'm going to go.
	I love that he showed you proof.
	That was rip.
	Let's see.
	What do we have here?
	Okay.
	Oh, we have the Matt Walsh video.
	That's right.
	Nick, if you can pull up the Matt Walsh video and you can close out those other TikToks.
	Just this is the last video.
	Okay.
	And so, guys, Matt Walsh just reacted to her first video that we already watched.
	So this is in reference to that first video.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	And we're just going to watch a short segment of it.
	Okay.
	Is this for the video?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	And maybe she thought, well, this is what men should be attracted to, says the culture, and so they are.
	But they're not.
	We're not.
	Like, as it turns out, yes, do men prefer feminine women?
	Yes.
	Oh.
	Because we're men.
	And we're not looking for if you're a heterosexual man, you desire a woman, and that's a particular sort of desire that you have because you want to get married, you want to have kids, you want a family.
	It's all natural desire for human beings to have for men to have.
	But you don't need a woman who acts like a man or looks like a man or takes on the mannerisms of a man.
	Why would you want that?
	Oh.
	Okay.
	I mean, you have guy friends that you hang out with.
	Oh.
	But you don't need women to fill that role.
	You certainly wouldn't call wheels.
	Donate woman.
	Would be a more holly aggregate on the Graham Lollip James and the School Wheels.
	Maybe I maybe do your best work in my DMs.
	And if you get my attention, then it's yes.
	And I'm managing it.
	Very easy to impress.
	Your reaction to the video, to the Matt Walsh video?
	I was like, kind of taken back a little bit because I see myself as feminine.
	I get that I lived, but I mean, I'm not big.
	I'm tall.
	Yeah.
	I still see myself as very feminine.
	You're just kind of like, you're super feminine.
	I don't know.
	Well, I think he's saying that in reaction to, because in the video that we reacted to in the video, he reacted to, you're like, well, I think that, you know, look how I forgot.
	I don't want to misquote you, but you like flexed in the video.
	And yeah, they don't want them like this.
	They want them like this.
	I mean, I'm still, I can be like this with the right guy, but guys just always see me when I'm out doing my personal training.
	So I look like big, scary, and strong.
	Okay.
	Like, and then if I go to the grocery store, it's usually right after I lift.
	I look big, scary, and strong.
	And I don't, I don't go out.
	So they don't see me like dressed up and nice or whatever.
	But I feel like for men, what's feminine is different for everybody.
	Yeah.
	Like there are guys who like super curvy women.
	Wait, can you scoot your mic to the very edge of the table?
	Super curvy women with big boobs and everything.
	There are guys who like petite women that don't have any boobs.
	I think it's just, you know, the preference of what, you know, what you like as a man.
	I don't, I have guys that like the way I look, and I have guys that say I'm a dude because of my voice and, you know, having a six-pack.
	And I know I haven't always had that.
	I weighed 180 pounds, so I've been curvier.
	So, you know.
	Yeah, sweet too.
	Thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Appreciate it.
	So I think it's just different for each person, what they like.
	And I think if Matt Wash says, we're men, we like this.
	No, you're a man, yes, and you like this.
	But like John over there might not.
	To be fair to Matt, I mean, I think there is a grain of truth in that men do like feminine women.
	We want someone who's more feminine than us.
	I wouldn't go to the extent to say that you're like a man because you're not.
	I mean, from the limited interaction I've had with you, you don't seem to be very manly.
	Seem to be pretty feminine.
	Other than working out and being tall, like, yeah, I think those are good qualities.
	So I wouldn't count that against you.
	But also.
	I think you're feminine.
	Yeah, I think you're a feminine lady.
	Feminine.
	Yeah, you're a dashing lass.
	I look a little scary when I'm working out, but besides points.
	Are you a grunter?
	I lift really heavy.
	So like I go hard.
	I go hard.
	Do you do the smelling salts?
	I don't do smelling salts.
	Okay, okay.
	Okay, okay.
	What's your favorite lift?
	At the moment, my favorite is probably belt squat at the moment.
	Oh, nice.
	Okay.
	I do lots of belt squats.
	And lunges.
	I am a sucker for lunges.
	I know it sounds crazy, but I love lunges.
	Yeah, usually psychopaths like lunges.
	Yeah, I was going to say I hate lunges.
	I struggle very much.
	You know what?
	I feel like guys.
	Here, okay, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	And then we'll go to you.
	I do want to point out, too, I feel like the new way to put down a girl in 2023 going into 2024 is being like, oh my God, you're so masculine.
	Oh, my God, you're so in your masculine energy.
	Like, I feel like that's almost like a microaggression sometimes where guys will say that.
	Just like, like, sometimes, especially when it like seems to be out of nowhere, and you're just like, wait, what did I do to like set you off?
	It's almost like, have you been planning on saying this the whole time?
	I mean, guys, guys, guys literally think that if they go, hold on, just a second.
	$100.
	See, that's it.
	Let's go, sweet.
	Yeah, let's go, sweet tooth.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Guys online thing that we care if they, oh, you're masculine, you're trans.
	I'm like, I don't care.
	Like, really?
	You go online, you put this energy into my page saying mean things.
	Well, and on top of it, there is a lot of men who like dominant women.
	And then the problem is, yes, a lot of men.
	Actually, I'm a professional dom.
	I'm also a professional dom.
	The amount of money I make humiliating men on a daily basis.
	Yeah, but they want to keep that on the DL.
	Exactly.
	Well, okay, so they don't want it from their partners.
	Not always.
	Not always.
	For the most part, they don't.
	The majority of men want dominant women.
	Almost every very powerful man I've met, which I'm not going to release any names, they always want to get dominated.
	Wait, can you guys define like dominant?
	What do you mean?
	Where when it comes to sexual, they don't want to be in charge at all.
	Haram.
	And they also don't mind doing domesticated work.
	Yep.
	But that's more like a sexual thing.
	I don't think it's like in life.
	Well, they also like to cater to you.
	No, that's another thing that I wanted to add.
	Right now, what we're seeing is like the sassy man era, where they also like to.
	I love that.
	No, no, no.
	There's men who in life prefer to have a dominant woman so they could do less work.
	That's why there's like this.
	That's why there's like this.
	I was going to say, what's your name?
	Yours?
	TikTok.
	Abigail.
	Yeah, Abigail.
	Okay, I was going to say, I think it's more of like a dating problem rather than you.
	I think you're very feminine and beautiful, and I think any guy would love to date you.
	But I think that we're just in a dating crisis.
	I agree with that.
	Let's go back to the whole Dom thing, though.
	What?
	Well, certainly, like, if there's a lot, you could say there's a lot of men insofar as there's the population of the U.S. is what, 330 million people.
	Certainly, there can be a lot.
	I would not say that, though, that the majority of men are into being dominated.
	I would, because I know what happens behind closed doors.
	Well, but that's a you put myself because there's a lot of men doesn't mean that it's the majority of men.
	Well, my experience is that.
	I don't think it's the majority.
	I think it's a major majority.
	Okay, then how about this?
	My experience, the majority of the people, and it is more than sex, especially the powerful men.
	Like, you guys have no idea the amount of powerful men that do not want that power, especially at home.
	They are tired of it.
	They need a release.
	They cannot deal with it anymore.
	But that's your clientele.
	So, I mean, you're excuse me.
	It's not my clientele.
	I don't have a clientele.
	Like, I have to do that.
	I don't do anything like that.
	Because, I mean, like, I do professional Dom work, and I also help people in gearing what they want, what they like.
	Why do you object to me using the term?
	Because I don't want people thinking that I'm like a courtesan or something.
	I don't do that.
	What do you do?
	Yes.
	I'm a professional dom.
	So you provide sexual services for money.
	I do not touch them sexually.
	I do not allow them to touch me sexually.
	I do not watch them.
	They receive sexual gratification.
	Nope.
	They're submitting.
	They might get off to it later at home in their head, but not in front of me right here.
	Absolutely not.
	Or else they can leave.
	You're engaged in sex work.
	I mean, you can.
	Oh, absolutely.
	I don't deny that.
	Well, then, so why?
	I'm not a hooker.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	I'm not a hooker.
	What's the so you don't have sex with them as a moment?
	Correct.
	No, it's not allowed.
	Providing some sort of.
	Do they unclothe themselves in front of you?
	No.
	They're fully clothed.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I put them in outfits.
	Okay.
	Do you touch them?
	No, not with my hands.
	With tools?
	Do you touch them with whips?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, that is within the per in my, that's within the purview of sex work.
	Yeah, I call myself a sex worker all the time, but again, I do not want that to be a lot of people.
	Why do you object to this?
	Because I don't want that line crossed that I'm having sex with these people for money.
	I do not do that.
	Yeah, but an accountant can have a client.
	Exactly.
	So I just want to make it clear because I've had a lot of people misconstrue that, and I don't like it.
	You've never, you've never done, I will, like, you've never escorted.
	No.
	You've never seen so relationships where I benefited from them, just like just like they benefit from me, just like any other freaking relationship.
	Okay.
	Let's pull up here.
	Let's come back to the video really quick.
	I want to wrap up on that.
	Nick, if you pull up the YouTube video, I just wanted to read the comments because there are some interesting comments on the video, on the YouTube video.
	Scroll down, pour favor for.
	I haven't even read these.
	Scroll down.
	Can you make it a little bigger?
	Nick, make it a little bigger.
	He responded.
	Yeah.
	Nope, that's way too big.
	Here, that's one bigger, please.
	Okay, scroll up.
	So we, Nick.
	Wow.
	Can you scroll up, please?
	Okay.
	The words, she's cute, but I wish she had more tattoos and piercings, has never been uttered by an emotionally healthy, high-functioning man ever.
	Speaking as a male that is heavily tattooed and used to work in the tattoo shop, I suggest that you never get a tattoo somewhere that can be covered by okay.
	One thing I realized, I want a certain man, he'll expect.
	Oh, one thing I realized at 19, if I want a certain man, he'll expect me to be a certain way.
	And I'm grateful that being feminine is amazing.
	And that's an interesting one on the tattoo front.
	Did you have a ton of money?
	Yeah, so my husband is heavily tattooed.
	Like, heavily.
	And he says that.
	Derek Fortrader donated $100.
	Yeah, thank you, Derek.
	Being in a relationship requires sacrifice.
	What are you ladies willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams?
	Here, Derek, I want to finish this conversational thread.
	We'll come...
	We'll go around the table.
	We'll come back to that.
	I'm writing a note here.
	Go ahead with your point.
	And if I say that I only have one tattoo and I had it when I was 18, stupidity.
	But he literally tells me that he doesn't want me to get any tattoos anymore because he says that a beautiful sculpture should never be painted on with graffiti.
	A lot of women here at the table are tattooed.
	Yeah, and I was like, I have one tattoo.
	Like, that's the same thing.
	And I was like, what?
	So do you hate it?
	Like, he's like, no, I don't mean like, I mean, heavily tattooed.
	Yeah.
	That's a personal preference.
	Yeah, it is.
	But I've heard that from you.
	Do you guys have thoughts on what she just said?
	Both of you are quite aware of that.
	I think my tattoos are, I like to think of them as feminine.
	Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
	Because I get mine, like, almost like feminine tattoos.
	They're very pretty.
	I have very leafy and floral, and like, I think they add, I don't know, they add character.
	And I also think if you vibe and you love each other and you think you're good for each other, you see past that.
	Because I just, when you, when you grow, when you're older, you don't go like, oh my god, she has nice tits.
	We're getting married.
	That's not how it works anymore.
	It's more like you have to have a connection.
	You have to get to know somebody.
	You have to see that you have the same values.
	You know, you see things the same way.
	Did you have something on the tattoo thing?
	Yeah, my ex, my recent ex, he had never dating anyone with hat too, dated anyone with tattoos, especially heavily tattooed, said he never would.
	But we had a genuine good connection.
	Yeah, and on top of it, I don't give a fly who likes my tattoos or not.
	They're for me.
	So if you don't like them, I most likely don't want to date you, anyways.
	That's not my problem.
	That's yours.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	I mean, I think the thing is, I think for most men, tattoos aren't necessarily a deal breaker, but there's never an instance where I think it's a deal maker for a guy.
	Like your tattoo.
	You're a tattoo artist.
	No, no, no.
	But there are some, granted, there's even that guy in the comments, he was like, he's a tattoo artist, and he was like, yeah, don't get a tattoo of your lady.
	Look, there are some guys who have like a tattoo thing.
	I think they're few and far between.
	But I'd say, generally speaking, like your tattoos are never going to typically make you more attractive.
	It's either going to be something that's neutral or for like there's definitely some men out there they're going to interpret it in a certain type of way.
	I will limit the dating pool.
	Yeah, and I would say that I read something, I can't remember what it was, something on tattoos, but there is something to be said of like people tend to view, and this kind of ties into the masculinity, femininity discussion, that tattoos can be viewed in a somewhat to some degree a masculine way.
	Absolutely.
	So I mean, look, and the pain, like this piece alone was six hours and I had to sit through it.
	And that's that's fine and dandy.
	Again, it's my story is my mom passed when I was 14.
	I didn't deal with it until I was legally able to.
	So this is what I did.
	I like it.
	You don't like it?
	That's your problem.
	At least I didn't do something worse to my body and I'm not here anymore.
	I'm going to add something.
	Sure, go ahead.
	I think, like what you said, guys, some guys like the tattoo thing.
	Well, I've ran into a lot of guys that like tattoos, but they like the girl for a short time.
	Like they look at tattoos like, oh, she's going to be fun for a short time.
	And that's been really hard for me, too, because I'm looking for something serious.
	And a lot of guys see me and they're like, oh, she must like to have fun for a short time.
	And I think a lot of guys look at tattoos like, I like girls with tattoos.
	And then they end up getting married to a girl that does not have any tattoos.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I like it in the moment.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, that's a good point.
	Yeah.
	A lot of people, most times when people get tattoos, it's very in the moment.
	It's a quick decision.
	Not saying that yours are like that.
	But generally speaking, when I see someone all tatted up, or when I've talked to certain people who are tatted up, it's a very quick decision.
	I just wanted to get a tattoo that day.
	It was something I just felt like doing.
	It seems like it's probably a financially irresponsible decision.
	So most men will evaluate it that way.
	They're just like, so when someone sees a girl who's all tattooed up, they're generally thinking they make quick decisions.
	They make irresponsible decisions.
	Therefore, she's going to make the irresponsible decision to sleep with me.
	Yeah.
	So.
	What's the word?
	Not spontaneous, but it's, I'm trying to think of the word for.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like somebody who rashly makes decisions or does things on the sporadic?
	Reactive?
	No, no.
	I'm thinking.
	Impulsive.
	Impulsive.
	I have BPD.
	That's the word character.
	I have BPD.
	Yeah.
	BPD?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So that's when my biggest thing is impulsivity.
	Impulsivity.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And impulsivity can be proxy for the potential risk for infidelity.
	So very true.
	I think that goes forever.
	Yeah, there are very ingrained systems in men.
	So when we view women, it might not be at the forefront of our mind, but it's kind of programmed into us.
	Like these things are not great to see.
	Not that I can look at you and I see your beautiful lady.
	You like to go to the gym.
	You like to take care of yourself.
	That's important to me.
	I think it's important to men in general that you take care of yourself.
	You look good.
	But then there all are those other things that we also take into account.
	Is she impulsive?
	They probably don't know you very well, so maybe they don't know that you're not impulsive.
	But a lot of the visual cues are saying you might be.
	It's usually first glance.
	Let me just read this chat here: Durpington, Crisis King, and the Lord of Lords.
	I'm going to teach my daughter to respect herself and not end up like a 30-0 selling herself to men that don't care about her.
	Powerlifter, dude.
	What's your favorite lift?
	Oh, bro.
	Okay.
	My favorite lift right now is bench.
	My best lift's deadlift by far.
	But I have most fun benching.
	Okay.
	Tattooed Missouri chick or whatever.
	Are you capable of cooking well?
	Also, Christian Virgin Dude and Missouri chick, how many reps of 225 pounds you got?
	I'm weak with only 25 blessings, question mark.
	Can you cook?
	I can cook very well.
	I love to cook.
	I enjoy it.
	I cook it.
	And I bake a lot and I cook a lot.
	And I will cook for the moon.
	Even if he loves to eat.
	All right.
	There you go.
	Thank you, Durpington.
	Oh, how many reps of 225?
	225.
	225 on what?
	Oh, on what?
	Bench.
	I'm not hitting 225 on bench.
	No, that's natural.
	Oh, wait, no.
	Did he say fun?
	Generally, 225 is bench.
	Like, NFL Combine is like bench.
	Squat, right?
	Squat.
	Okay, we'll just say squat.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think last week I hit 225 for 12 reps.
	Gotcha.
	Nice.
	That's pretty good.
	That's actually really good.
	I'm just going to read this.
	Okay, we got Doc.
	All right, we'll move on.
	Doc Fanablis, why do women always think that they know what men should want?
	Stop it.
	Men like women.
	If you hack Hawk Lugies, burp, and curse like a sailor, you'll probably attract butch chicks instead of gentlemen.
	Are you into that?
	Yeah.
	Well, not into burping and all that, but like, but we never said that.
	We know what he meant to do.
	Thank you, man.
	Hey, ladies, when your only skill is attracting guys, it's time to develop another one.
	It ages.
	All girls are the same.
	Wow, okay, Pete.
	He's coming with jobs.
	I guess you're single, Pete Cosi.
	I mean, I'm not only all that, I'm a hairdresser, I'm a cook, I'm an aunt.
	Like, these people don't, they see us as just an object, which is fine.
	Maybe we show ourselves that way.
	We present ourselves that way.
	That's fine.
	How much does your OnlyFans cost?
	Mine?
	Yeah.
	$10 a month?
	And I don't show anything.
	Aren't you objectifying yourself?
	Absolutely.
	But aren't you by having a corporate job every day, sitting there playing to the man?
	Well, Brian doesn't have a corporate job.
	Okay.
	You're still giving your time to somebody else.
	That's fine.
	My opinion is that you're not going to be able to do it.
	But when you say objectifying, like, I think you're talking about something very specific.
	Well, because it's what everyone's willing to deal with.
	I'm willing to deal with maybe a lot more than someone else here is.
	And that's fine.
	That's what my threshold is.
	At the end of the day, everybody's giving their time and their energy to somebody else for money at the end of the day, no matter what it is.
	McDonald's workers, Starbucks workers, car truck drivers, whatever.
	Yeah, but not all jobs are created equally.
	Absolutely not.
	That's why it's better to be on my side for me.
	I mean, for me, I will say too, like, the more money it is, typically the more you have to sacrifice to get it.
	Like, obviously, like, OnlyFans and like camming and all that stuff, like, you have to deal with people in their weird forms, right?
	Like, you're basically a therapist that's there to reinforce their mental health issues and not, you know what I mean, as opposed to a therapist, a different, a real therapist, which is designed to help you with your mental health issues.
	And that, and that's a weird fucking service.
	Lawyers chart, you know what I mean?
	So it's like, I don't really want to sit there listening to the things I've had to listen to for hours for like less than a crazy price.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I just don't understand why they think we don't know what we're doing.
	Like, yeah, like, I'm not idiots.
	Yeah, we know.
	We're fine with it.
	We don't venture into OnlyFans and be like, I'm going to do this.
	Oh, I have to be naked.
	Well, like, we're not idiots.
	Yeah, you guys have agency.
	Yeah.
	You guys, we know what we're doing and we know what this is.
	And we can choose to do it or not do it.
	But, you know, and they can have an opinion or not have an opinion.
	Like, their opinion is like, you know, dime a dozen, you know?
	So it's fine to think that we might be, you know, not worthy or we might never find a man.
	Whatever it is, you know?
	But in the end of the day, we know what we're doing and we know what this is.
	And what do we sign up for?
	Yeah, what do we sign up for?
	If we didn't want to do it, we wouldn't.
	Yep.
	It's not a must.
	We're almost done here with some of the notes on Abigail.
	Abigail, you said, I've not had the best dating luck.
	You said your first boyfriend cheated.
	Second one was an alcoholic.
	Third cheated on you with a man.
	You already told us about that one.
	You said, yeah, one of your clients at the time was the man he slept with.
	Your fourth was long distance.
	Yep.
	Wasn't terrible, but would use scripture as a weapon to manipulate.
	Are you religious at all or not?
	Yes.
	I am.
	Oh, okay.
	Christian.
	Okay, so he would use scripture to manipulate you.
	How so?
	Did he ever use Proverbs 21, 19?
	Because that's my go-to.
	If I'm trying to manipulate, I'm trying to manipulate a lady.
	Wait, what is it, though?
	I've never read the Bible.
	Which one?
	Clearly.
	What's Proverbs?
	Oh, Proverbs 21, 19.
	Better to live in the desert than with a quarrelsome and nagging wife.
	No, he never used that one on me.
	Yo, if you're watching, dude, Proverbs 21, 19.
	That's my fucking go-to.
	You're a good one.
	So I can tell you a story, and then I'm not going to explain.
	No, yeah, give us an example of scripture he's weaponized.
	Yeah, okay, go, go.
	It's not a great, it's not a great story, so just brace yourself.
	So one day we were floating, and I had some peach rings.
	In the pool?
	Oh, like a river floating.
	Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	Oh, okay.
	I guess we're in California.
	We tube.
	Yeah, tubing.
	Tubing.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I live in Tennessee, so yeah, I understand.
	Yeah, it was good.
	You know, it's Tennessee.
	Yeah, yeah, I live in Tennessee.
	I love that place.
	Memphis.
	Okay, let's go.
	Anyways, guys, guys, guys.
	So I had these peach rings, and we were saving ourselves for marriage.
	And we came back to the truck, and he was trying to get kind of sexual with me.
	And I was like, no, I don't really feel comfortable with that.
	And we get back to the apartment, and he proposed to me with a peach ring.
	And he said, God said us, it's okay.
	We can have sex now.
	Like, it's okay.
	Like, I promise God said it was fine.
	And I was like, He's a man of God.
	He was, like, really trying to tell me it was okay to manipulate me.
	And we ended up, we ended up doing.
	Yeah, because he had told me, like, God said it was fine.
	Like, we're married now.
	And, like, do you see the ring on your finger?
	And I just want to say that.
	Wait, hold on, hold on.
	How old are you?
	I'm not letting you off the hook.
	Wait, I know we got you.
	Yeah.
	How old were you?
	How old was I?
	Yeah.
	This was last summer.
	And you're like, we literally were talking about getting married.
	Like, he was going to propose.
	Well, we ended up doing it.
	I told him, stop.
	I don't like this.
	I don't feel good.
	We stopped, and he goes, it's okay because I faked it anyway.
	And I didn't want to actually propose.
	Oh, my God.
	No.
	No way.
	Yeah.
	And he was long distance, so he literally went home the next day and he lived six hours away.
	And I was like, I feel disgusting.
	And I feel used.
	It was hard to do.
	But just to.
	Okay.
	Were you a virgin?
	No, I wasn't.
	Oh.
	So we can go.
	We went into the relationship because it was important to us.
	To both of you.
	Yes.
	He wasn't either.
	But we decided to go into the relationship.
	We were like, you know what?
	We're going to restart.
	We're not going to do this.
	And we weren't like born-again virgins, but we wanted to respect each other and not have sex until marriage.
	At least that's what I thought he wanted.
	It ended up going downhill real quick.
	How long had you guys been dating?
	We were dating for about eight months then.
	Eight months?
	Wow.
	That's a long time to hold out.
	I know, and I was like, well, proposing.
	We literally lived longer than that.
	So, are we talking, like, what Bible verses was he?
	There's Ezekiel 25, 17, Psalms 23, 4.
	Oh, he would have been sent to him.
	Proverbs 16, 18.
	Proverbs 24, 24.
	25, 24.
	Genesis?
	Genesis.
	Genesis.
	You go ahead and try to find him.
	I can't quote him.
	How about other people?
	You probably quoted.
	There's a Bible verse that says that if you have that burning desire within you, you should get married.
	So it's in like 1 Corinthians.
	He would say right on the other 15, I think it is.
	I think it's 17.
	So it's like if you feel that overwhelming attraction for your partner, then you should go ahead and get married because that's been awoken in you and you shouldn't sin against your body.
	He was like, God made us one.
	Like, this is what we're supposed to do.
	Like, we are one now that I gave you that ring.
	Like, God told me it was okay.
	And I was like, oh, he's not a good question.
	No, yeah, yeah.
	I think you wanted it too, though.
	Right?
	Well, in the moment, I really wanted to be married to him and I wanted to be with him forever and I trusted him.
	Like I gave him that trust.
	So, yeah, I mean, do you feel grateful that you got away from a guy who would destroy your trust like that?
	Like, in my opinion, I'm kind of like, wow, you dodged a bullet says, thank God you didn't get married to that guy.
	Yeah, it was hard because I did let him be that spiritual leader in my life.
	And I was like, I was really wanting that.
	And he kind of gave me that good, manly affirmation that I wanted.
	And then he just kind of destroyed it.
	So it was really hard for me to do that.
	So when you say a good spiritual leader, what was he doing to show you that he was a good spiritual leader?
	I mean, when we were together, we would go to church together, be heavily involved in church events.
	We would go to family events together.
	We would do devotions every night, even if it was over FaceTime or like in person if we saw each other.
	And he bought me devotionals and he would always talk about like getting married and having kids and leading the home and doing those things together as a family and as a whole.
	So wait, so like midway through the act, you're like, no, no, no.
	And then he was like, I faked, he faked his orgasm.
	No, he faked the proposal.
	Oh, oh, yeah.
	Okay, okay.
	Like he admitted that I was just doing this so we would have sex.
	That totally went over my mind.
	No, he didn't finish.
	I didn't.
	I started, I actually started crying, and he was like, oh my God, what's wrong?
	And I was like, I just want you to stop, baby.
	I don't want to stop.
	What's wrong anymore?
	So then you guys broke up.
	Like, that was it.
	No, I continued to date him.
	Oh, you couldn't?
	What?
	What?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Why did you do that?
	We're not together anymore.
	It only lasted like another month.
	And I was like, I was like, I really, I actually called him because he was back at his in his state.
	And I was like, I just don't think this is good for us.
	And I don't think you're in a right place maturity-wise to be with me.
	Question for you.
	You said for that relationship, you were, how long ago was that?
	You said.
	That ended New Year's.
	I mean, I told you.
	Oh, okay.
	And you said for that relationship, you were saving yourself for marriage.
	Is that your new standard moving forward?
	I would prefer it that way, yes.
	Well, have you had any indiscretions since like have you?
	He's the guy I was seeing on and off for the older man who's your boss.
	He was.
	Was your boss.
	Yeah.
	I have a man business now as a trainer, but he actually owns the gym back home.
	But you guys were having sex.
	Yes, we were.
	But your standard is you're saving yourself for marriage.
	That's what I'd prefer, yes.
	You'd prefer.
	But what if you met a guy who doesn't want that, but you like him?
	Well, then he doesn't have the same standards I do.
	But neither did your previous, the person that you had sex with.
	She's grown, though.
	I mean, I wanted it too.
	I won't say that I won't.
	Of course.
	I've known him for a very long time.
	So we both, we both had been intimate before this year as well.
	I've known him for a very long time.
	Recycled time.
	As it's called.
	What?
	You recycled a body.
	Recycled?
	Recycled.
	Recycled.
	What is that?
	Recycling.
	I know Missouri, they don't have a good recycling system.
	Oh, yeah.
	You recycled.
	You had sex with them in the past.
	And you had sex with them again.
	Well, we never were serious in the past.
	Right.
	But then we decided to this time, and that was it.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I see.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to think if there's anything else here from your notes.
	Can I ask a question?
	Go ahead.
	With the crappy guy, Peach Ring dude, do you think by any chance he was already with other women in the middle of that?
	I had a feeling just because he had sent me like scripture about how liars and shears would be struck down by God and that I deserved what I got coming for me.
	And I would just, and that's right when.
	Wait, that what struck down?
	Liars and cheaters.
	Liars and cheaters would be struck down by God and I got what I had coming for me.
	And that was right when we broke up.
	So I was like, that doesn't make sense.
	Like, why do you automatically assume that I'm lying and cheating on you just because I broke things off with you?
	It just didn't make sense to me.
	So the only pieces I could put together is that he was lying and cheating on his end if he had said that to me.
	What's your gut?
	A woman's gut is always right, in my opinion.
	What's your girl gut?
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What is it?
	Is it yes?
	I don't.
	It's hard because I don't want to view anybody if they have negatively that way.
	Absolutely.
	You don't want to put that off.
	Absolutely.
	I respect that a lot.
	That says a lot about a woman.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'm just going to move on.
	Yeah, you got it.
	Just re-trigger this from Derek to Trader.
	Trader donated $100.
	Being in a relationship requires sacrifice.
	What are you ladies willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams?
	We'll go around the table on this, starting with you.
	Go ahead.
	Easy to keep, to obtain and maintain a man of your dreams, like as a woman.
	Like, I believe that you should.
	Like, you give up part of your freedom.
	And I'm okay with that because that's like the buy-in for a marriage.
	But it's a lot.
	It's a big ask.
	And so it's a big deal.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I would actually disagree with that.
	I always say that marriage set me free.
	But what I will say is one thing to give up, I guess I think both partners have to give up, but something and sacrifice.
	But I think not being as emotional as I would like to be, being a little bit more logical and not just saying what is on my mind.
	I think that that's what I had to give up being in a relationship.
	But I think that makes sense.
	I really have a beautiful relationship and it feels like I'm not giving up much.
	Yeah.
	I mean, honestly, if I found the right person, I wouldn't say I'd do anything for them, but we'd have discussions of what made them uncomfortable, what things maybe I need to work on in a relationship, because I'm still a work in progress.
	In my opinion, everyone is.
	But I did recently get diagnosed with my mental condition.
	And being 32 years old, not knowing what's wrong with me all these years and finding out, I'm realizing I might not be suit for a relationship.
	Every time I'm in one, I get really mentally ill.
	I'm not okay.
	I'm abusive towards my partner.
	It's not like I'm verbally abusive.
	And that's not fair to anyone.
	I should not put them through that.
	Yes, it was undiagnosed the time, but I'm kind of scared to put someone else in that situation because I don't want to bring someone else down.
	Again, that's not fair.
	That's very selfish.
	So, I mean, if someone can understand and navigate my mental issues, I could be there for them in any capacity.
	I'm very loyal.
	Very supportive.
	They wanted me to quit sex work.
	Absolutely.
	As long as you can pay as much as I can, or at least I can still contribute in other manners because I can't not work.
	I have to work.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, okay.
	So you have to work.
	I guess you said something right at the end there.
	He has to be making as much as you're making.
	Like, we need to both be contributing the same amount, I feel, if we're going to do that type of relationship.
	So, what if, just posing this situation to you, what if he's not making as much as you?
	Okay.
	Well, what if he just asked that you stop your sex work?
	He's not making as much as you, but he's making enough to where you could still comfortably live.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Because, again, my last relationship problem was I was the breadwinner.
	Okay.
	And he wasn't working for two years.
	Like, not even Uber.
	And I kept pushing and pushing and pushing.
	Yeah.
	So, if you can, like I said, match me, we can figure it out.
	Like, I would have supported him until the end of time if he was doing housework, if he was doing the bare minimum of online jobs.
	7-Eleven, I would have stuck with him because he was a good man and he treated me well.
	We had the same views of what we wanted in the future.
	He couldn't do that.
	If you can't put in the same effort I can, how am I going to find that attractive?
	And that's your ex, right?
	Yes.
	Correct?
	Yes.
	The same ex who was like alpha and then he became kind of submissive.
	Well, would you say that maybe he wanted to break up with you, but he didn't have the guts to, so he just failed miserably so that you could let him go.
	I wish.
	Yeah.
	He was so obsessed.
	I think kind of.
	I tried kicking him out many times and he would not leave.
	Yeah.
	From what I'm kind of gathering from the situation, I'm wondering if he stayed for the money?
	No, no, no.
	Yeah, obviously he stayed for the money.
	He's been fine since, but I kicked him out many times.
	He had other places to go.
	Yeah, but I think maybe he, yeah, he stayed for the money, obviously, but he probably saw a very masculine, he saw you taking on a very masculine role.
	And he just kind of submitted to that.
	And it emasculated him.
	And with that said, he allowed it because he didn't say, you know what, babe?
	No, you're not going to pay for a dang thing.
	I'm going to go out there and find a job and you won't have to worry about it.
	Well, why would he?
	Like, men are okay.
	Men are smart.
	So one thing that I think a lot of people forget is that a man is extremely toxic, men, but just men in general, humans, are all very selfish.
	And this is why I always say, like, ladies, always have your boundaries and standards, right?
	Because they are going to push until you're like, no, this is it.
	And they are smart in the way they do it.
	And you obviously have a big, well, I would like to think you have a big heart.
	So he's going, and they know when you're in love with them.
	So they're going to push and push and push and push until you say, no, this is the line.
	And for you, you know, maybe for you, it wasn't the line.
	So you kept pushing and pushing and pushing.
	And you see this happen over and over again.
	And then we learn.
	We're like, uh-uh, this is the last time it's going to happen.
	And then hopefully we don't allow it to happen again.
	Absolutely.
	And I agree with you 100% on that.
	I enabled him.
	I do not, I take my ownership on this.
	I'm not one that's like, oh my God, poor me.
	No, I messed up on my parts too.
	I was verbally abusive.
	I was not the best partner I could be at the time.
	With that said, he had a back problem all the time.
	He couldn't get work because he has a criminal history.
	There was always an excuse.
	And yes, I should have just left once the excuses started piling up.
	Like all of the things were there.
	I just.
	You said you were verbally abusive.
	How so?
	I don't believe people want to stay in love.
	I have abandonment issues.
	So if anyone's experienced someone with abandonment issues, they're never going to believe that you love them or that you genuinely want to be with them.
	So they're going to put, like, I'm going to push you away.
	I'm going to tell you, you don't love me.
	You never did.
	F you.
	And it's not fair.
	And I don't like being that person.
	Like, that's not who I am.
	So to do it, it hurts.
	I want to move on a little bit, but I want to get this fully answered from everybody here at the table.
	So what was it?
	Willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams.
	I would give up everything.
	Even.
	What?
	If he is providing.
	If he was providing and he was the man of my dreams.
	What if he was like, you were not allowed to be a personal trainer anymore?
	I would give it up.
	Really?
	Wow.
	If he can provide.
	Yeah, it is.
	What if he couldn't collect Pokemon cards anymore?
	Oh, well.
	If he respects me, I respect him.
	I thought you were about to say that's where I draw the line.
	That's the line, right?
	That's where she draws the line.
	Line drawn.
	Not giving up my Pokemon cards.
	I got to fucking blast those.
	Oh, my gosh.
	I love Pokemon cards, so keep them forever.
	Oh, my God.
	So, yeah, I would seriously.
	Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	There's only one thing I wouldn't give up.
	It's the gym.
	The rest can go.
	Why would I?
	I'm just, I don't know why.
	The question's a bit interesting because, like, why would you give it away?
	Why would a guy want you to give up the gym?
	Unless it was like, there's some feeders out there.
	That question comes up a lot, actually.
	Really?
	It's always like, what do you want to give up?
	What would you give up?
	Like, that question comes from a lot of guys.
	And I always say, what are you going to give up?
	It goes both ways.
	I think it's implied.
	Guys are going to give up generally lots of time, effort, money.
	Especially initially starting a dating relationship.
	Men are typically, they carry the burden.
	Which, like, they're the ones expected to initiate the relationship.
	They're expected to pay for the first date.
	They're expected to provide all of these things.
	But to be honest, if I find a good man, I don't care how much money you make.
	I don't care what you are and what you do.
	I don't go for looks.
	I go for a vibe and I go for a person.
	For the vibe?
	For the vibe.
	Yeah.
	If you're a good person and I see you're a good person and you can take care of me, you can protect me.
	You can be there for me and support me.
	I don't care.
	My husband made $0 when we met.
	Zero dollars.
	He was a musician struggling.
	I didn't care.
	That's not important to me.
	But if you're a good person, you're good to me and you take care of me.
	Well, you disagree with that, Carla, don't you?
	I will go to the ends of the earth for you.
	I will just have it.
	Or do I also disagree with you?
	I will go straight into the dark.
	Into the foresight of Mount Doom.
	Yes, I will.
	I love you, but I can't wait to hear what you say.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead.
	I wish I wasn't.
	I wish I could agree with that, but the matter of fact is absolutely not.
	A woman loses.
	So even a woman loses no matter what, I think at the end of the day, yeah, they're going to have to put in that sacrifice.
	That's the bare minimum.
	That's the bare.
	I disagree.
	Bare minimum you could do because we okay.
	For me, in my opinion, that's the bare minimum.
	A man is expected to provide because that's his role.
	That's his role.
	Like if we're going to go into, I guess, like feminine, masculine, and a what I know, and a woman, and a woman loses, like, a woman's time is more valuable as well.
	So for me, I guess what I'm giving up, because you're giving it up anyway.
	For example, I married young.
	I'm giving up my beauty, my time, my fertile years.
	That's what I'm kind of giving up when I got married young, but I wanted to feel protected and I need resources because how am I expected to live off of someone that makes zero dollars?
	Like, no.
	If my dad gave me a specific lifestyle and he gave me that protection and all of that, why am I going to marry someone that can't give me that or better?
	Like, life is already hard.
	I wasn't meant to struggle.
	So, there was something you said.
	You're too busy to struggle.
	Well, we have, we actually, so we have quite a few of your videos that we're going to react to.
	I don't want to dive into some of the talk points yet because I want to maybe save that towards a little bit later.
	I do want to try to get through everybody else's thing.
	But on the question, I do want to, I think you answered.
	Did you answer?
	Do you have an answer for the question if you need me to pull it up?
	I wouldn't define it as a sacrifice because I think if it's your person and you are like pretty much aligned, everything can be discussed and you can find a common ground.
	Yeah.
	So, in my relationship, we've been four years together.
	We are very different.
	We've been like fighting on many grounds.
	But the only thing we sacrificed, both of us, it's only our freedom.
	Anything else, we just found a common ground on.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I like, I was going to say the same thing.
	I don't think it's sacrifice.
	I think that there's things that you just naturally want to give up, you know, once you get into that relationship.
	So it's not really sacrificed to me, you know?
	I agree.
	Okay.
	So I want to move to my pre-show notes here for Holly.
	Holly here.
	And you said in your pre-show notes and on the show, you said you're in a dating talking stage with multiple men currently.
	We kind of already went over that.
	You, let's see, you are currently a couples unicorn.
	Yeah.
	Is that one of the three people that I don't really, I wouldn't say they're on the roster.
	That's just more kind of like a wild thing that happens every once in a while.
	Yeah.
	So you wrote, I'm a couple, I'm a couples unicorn from seeking arrangements and recently went to a sex club and I accidentally ran into a bunch of people I know.
	So for those of those watching who don't know what that is, what is a unicorn?
	A unicorn is kind of like if you're a couple, sometimes there's a thing where couples want to have a threesome really bad and it's really hard for them to like think or even like give attention, like share the attention or whatever.
	And it's hard for couples who want to be together to create that situation in a way that won't threaten the relationship.
	However, there are people out there that are kind of like, hey, I don't want your relationship.
	I am just here for this time, right?
	For this moment.
	And so we went to this sex club in LA for Halloween.
	They were having like a big Halloween party.
	And then I ran into a bunch of people from work and I kind of like didn't really think it through.
	Didn't think what through.
	Like when I agreed to go to the party, I really didn't like think through, oh yeah, I probably actually will know at least seven people at this party that I like work with.
	How do I feel about them all knowing?
	And then I like my style has always been like, well, we're doing this now.
	So I'm committing to what I'm doing.
	And I'm not going to cross over my boundaries, but I'm in this, right?
	And I'm going to own it and have as much fun as I can.
	But it was weird.
	Wait, when you said your work, but aren't you?
	I mean, you.
	No, like I saw other content creators there, like other girls with millions of followers being like, oh, hey, girl, I see you on Instagram all the time.
	Any of the people, because it's a sex club.
	So like, did you hook up with any of the people?
	So this particular sex club, I'm not that big of a fan of because it's more of a pro.
	Honestly, it's more of a performance and a place that you go to watch the performers and the people who probably paid to go there.
	And then definitely people like me.
	Like, people, if I know there's paid performers there getting paid to perform naked acts, I don't want to be doing naked acts for free while someone else is getting paid.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just not.
	I don't care how fun it is, right?
	Like, I'm just not going to lower myself to that level.
	So for me, it's a weird dynamic to go to sex clubs because it's kind of like, honestly, like, once you've seen one, you've seen a lot, right?
	So I'm kind of like, okay, you've been to them before.
	Yeah, I've been to sex clubs before, but I have never gone with a couple that I was seeing and then ran into like a bunch of people that I really do people just fuck at the sex club?
	Some people do.
	There are people that are just fucking at the sex club.
	There are performers at the sex club that are kind of like there to do things if the normal people aren't and to kind of like, I think, set the mood.
	But for me, it just seems very produced.
	So I don't really ever go to those things planning on having sex, but it's still like that.
	Have you, though?
	I have when I went to like the Swinger's Island in Mexico.
	I have that.
	Yeah.
	I definitely did it.
	Swingers Island, I've kind of gotten a little bit like- Well, what is, tell us what Swingers Island is.
	There's a couple resorts in Mexico that are like full participation, swingers resorts.
	You can go and just be naked.
	You can go and just watch people have sex, or you can go and have sex with however many people are there, right?
	I went and participated a little bit.
	I was with this like boyfriend that was my rebound guy.
	Participated a little bit?
	Yeah, like I hooked up with like four guys and their wives.
	So like eight people total.
	And it was a really cool experience that I wanted to have.
	Like I had a lot of specific things where I'm like, yeah, I want to like check these on my list.
	And it was cool, but since then I'm kind of like, okay, I don't really need to do that again.
	So like that's, that's, that, that's off the list.
	Did you only go to a swinger island once?
	Yes.
	It was that one time.
	That one time.
	And then I checked out other clubs, but didn't really participate.
	So it's eight people.
	Yeah.
	In one, in one night?
	It's like we were, it's there.
	How long were you there for?
	We were there for three days and it was for this like event.
	So basically everyone I think was kind of like, okay, we have this weekend.
	So like to do whatever.
	There's a lot of people there that are just like watching and kind of like, it's not all.
	Yeah.
	Were you there?
	Oh, no.
	I've probably been to places like that sometimes.
	So wait, you said the first night, eight people.
	What about the subsequent days?
	None.
	None?
	Yeah, I was like.
	You front-loaded.
	Front-loaded.
	And I was like, okay, cool.
	I'm done.
	Front-loaded, fucking.
	Now I'm just in Mexico.
	Yeah.
	I was like, I don't think I need to have sex for like a while after this.
	Like, I'm good.
	Yeah, can I ask something?
	I don't know if it's appropriate or not, but I've always wondered how that works when you're fine.
	Okay, okay.
	I always wondered how that works when, you know, like, you know, when you're having casual sex, you want to protect yourself, right?
	Not catch something.
	So how do you, how does that work when you have to go back and forth between people?
	You use condoms, and if they don't, I don't really need to fuck them that bad, right?
	Like, so it's kind of like, if you're not going to protect yourself up to my standards, I don't want your, I honestly say no to most people anyway.
	So I'm kind of like, no, I know, but I'm saying, let's say like there's a guy and he's going between you and another chick.
	I don't do that.
	Oh, okay.
	That's disgustingly unsanitary.
	I would never do that.
	And sometimes what people will do, if you're not.
	And the people who do it on camera are tested and everyone knows that there's nothing wrong.
	But honestly, I don't want your yeast or bacteria in whether it's an STV or not.
	I just don't want your cooties.
	Like not yours, but like anyone's.
	You know what I mean?
	Well, when I've had three sums with my ex-partners, we've changed the condoms.
	And then as far as, and I know this isn't going to stop, but there's, what's it called?
	Spermicide, right?
	So he goes into the bathroom, washes through that, and then he comes back.
	But then that creates the same problem, though, because it's like chemicals.
	I know, but it's chemicals throwing off your floor.
	Like, I don't want a bad vagina day.
	I guess that's what it comes down to.
	Like, and men have no idea what we're talking about.
	But literally, like, you can just wake up and be like, I ate too much sugar this week.
	And I just like don't, like, it's like, you don't even know what it feels like because it's like in between our abs and like our back.
	But it like, it just kind of like hurts sometimes.
	You know, if you're, if you're off.
	The pussy hurts.
	The pussy hurts.
	Like you can.
	Is it the pussy or the uterus hurts?
	I guess it's like your entire thing, but like yeast infections and stuff like that.
	Like guys think you're just a bad pussy day.
	A bad pussy day, right?
	Like it's like guys think yeast infections are just these things that we complain about, but they're really painful.
	And so I want to go to extreme lengths to avoid them.
	Yeah.
	Do you have bad penis days?
	No, they don't.
	I've had bad bad penis or balls days.
	I'm just wondering.
	I've had like ball pain.
	Yes.
	That was all day.
	You know?
	No.
	There's like a two-week period where my balls are kind of hurt, you know?
	Oh, really?
	Do you ever talk about those?
	I said, doctor.
	And they said it was okay.
	He said it's fine.
	Okay, then you guys have bad penis tissue.
	I think I was surfing.
	You know what happened?
	I was surfing.
	I was surfing.
	And like the water hit me in just like, oh, the right the weird way.
	Just parted them like that.
	So it was like more of like a bruise.
	Yeah, it was more of a brain.
	Yeah, ours are inflammation.
	It was like double overhead.
	Yeah, ours is like a bigger one.
	It happens because someone punched our vagina.
	Like ours happens because our acid basis is.
	Yeah, it's like just your pH level.
	You know, have you ever had allergies and your throat gets itchy?
	Or like your ears get like inflamed and you feel like pressure?
	And it's not itchy, but it's like pressure.
	Do you know what I mean?
	It's like that's it.
	It's like hard to describe, but it's like when your flora is off, it just you feel like not good.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And everyone, everyone's different.
	Like I had a girlfriend.
	She would, if she didn't like wash up like right away after like sex, like she would.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Or to pee, she would get a UTI right away.
	So I have to pee.
	I'm like, okay, don't forget about it.
	Like when you're trained a lot at the gym.
	When you're trained a lot, like, you know, tight chloe was at the gym.
	Yeah.
	I mean, she ain't happy.
	Okay.
	It's so easy to upset the princess.
	She's like, today, not today.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So you said that, wait, okay, there's a swinger island.
	Okay, we talked about that.
	You wanted to talk about traditional and transactional relationships, or you said I can talk about traditional and transactional relationships all day, good and bad.
	I'm also from a culture that still does arranged marriages.
	And my mom has been working with this actor's mom, Alden.
	Alden.
	Alden.
	Yeah.
	Aaron Reich from Oppenheimer and a bunch of stuff to try to get us to go out.
	And neither he and I want to date each other, but our moms are hardcore pushing it.
	So you mentioned arranged marriages from your culture.
	I'm Jewish.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Is that a thing for tomorrow?
	In the super orthodox culture, it is.
	And I wasn't raised that way.
	However, I am in LA.
	And so sometimes it's like you never know what kind of background these other moms have where they're kind of like, oh, wow, my son has blue eyes and blonde hair.
	And we want you to make blue-eyed and blonde haired babies with him.
	And he's dating a girl who's not Jewish and I would like you a lot more for him.
	And it's kind of like this weird thing where I'm kind of like, okay, that's cool, but like we're not doing that.
	But it does make me kind of more woke, I guess, to like what you go.
	Hold on, one of the dollars.
	Yo, thank you not to be able to do that.
	This is our herpes.
	Every herpes is very strange.
	Yet another panel full of playgrounds.
	Whoa, playgrounds.
	This outbreak will be controlled.
	Do they realize that?
	Dude, are you making like actual violent threats on YouTube?
	Three out of like, look at that.
	He just sent them to the bottom.
	Dude, this guy is actually promoting terrorism on YouTube.
	Like, more people have herpes than you also know.
	It's the statistics are insane.
	My question is.
	I just think it's kind of crazy that Jay Butler wants to use violence like this.
	Like someone check out.
	I'm not sure if he's actually.
	I have a question.
	Who hurts you?
	Yeah, Jay.
	That's all I want to know.
	Who hurt you with herpes?
	It's okay, dude.
	Yeah, I mean, homie obviously has it.
	He's sad, like, and launching mischief.
	No, he's a medical doctor.
	Yeah, he's a medical guy.
	What Jay's Butler's job.
	He's like a urologist.
	Oh, so we know him.
	Okay.
	But then why are you causing physical harm to people?
	Aren't you supposed to save lives?
	It's funny that a doctor that is very respected will come on YouTube and be a C.
	Oh, that's you next MPA.
	I don't know.
	I think you didn't reach out to me.
	I would never go see a doctor.
	He's a big tipper, though, so the show really appreciates your input.
	Thank you.
	He's our residential herpes.
	I didn't catch the call to violence on his part.
	What was it?
	He feels very passionate about the fact that people think that they're safe from herpes with condoms in their hands.
	And nobody said that.
	No one says you're not from herpes.
	95% accurate.
	We all, I can't speak for everyone here.
	I get tested two times, two times a month at most if I have partners.
	Every new partner I test.
	And I know herpes can't show up right away.
	Did you do porn?
	Yes.
	Both of you?
	Yeah, the thing is, though, is that my understanding, at least for the, you guys are in the SFV, correct?
	What's SFV?
	San Fernando Valley.
	That's where a lot of people are.
	Filming is there, Vegas and Miami.
	They don't, my understanding, at least here in California, it's not requisite that they test for herpes or HPV.
	Actually, fun fact, you can't really test for herpes unless you're having outbreaks.
	Precisely.
	So they can't test for it on a test site.
	So can't you just get it if there's an outbreak?
	Absolutely.
	We've had a girl on the show who does porn and she has herpes.
	Yeah, a lot of almost everyone does, but no one will say it.
	It's like this hidden secret in the industry.
	Because it's still frowned upon in society.
	So because it's still frowned upon in society, everybody's afraid to say it, even though a cold sore is HSV1.
	Well, yeah, but there's genital hurt.
	And that's HSV2.
	And there's also dormant forms of it where you're not passing it on.
	And you can take medicine where you don't pass it on.
	Yeah, but I think it's kind of a bad look.
	Yeah.
	It absolutely is.
	I literally go on rants about that.
	No, but people are in the industry and they continue to work in the industry despite the fact that they're herpes positive.
	Yes.
	And another thing they should do is if you are herpes positive, you should be able to have the option to choose to want to work with that person or not.
	And because they do offer that for people who are HIV positive.
	So.
	Okay.
	Wait, so there's people that are still working in porn that are HIV.
	They are undetectable, and I do not want to get into that stigma because I'm very strong about that.
	I can't.
	If you're undetectable, you cannot pass it.
	If your levels are under like a certain amount, you cannot pass it on.
	I don't want to.
	I don't want to play with fire.
	Well, that's your choice, though.
	I think I'd rather not have enough problems in my life without getting HIV positive.
	And that's your choice.
	But there's some people who, like me, who I do all that research, and I'm not saying I go around and I'm like, hey, do you have HIV?
	Let's fuck.
	No, but I'm not going to discriminate against you.
	If you're taking care of your body, you're working out.
	You're eating right.
	You're not drinking.
	You're not doing drugs.
	I would discriminate.
	I discriminate.
	That's everyone's prerogative.
	If you have HIV, you know, wish you the best.
	I would be really hypocritical to judge somebody else considering everything else I do.
	And isn't there like a pill now that you avoid porn?
	Oh, okay.
	I thought you would.
	Like, I put myself technically at risk every time I film.
	So it would be really ironic and really freaking like controversial to be like, you have HIV?
	No.
	Oh, but I'm going to go fucking more guys this week.
	Have fun.
	Does the pill stop you from giving it or from getting it?
	From giving.
	Oh, no.
	You're talking about prep.
	I don't know.
	Prep is where you take it to prevent getting it.
	Yes, you can.
	Well, going back to you, Holly, you have a tweet of yours.
	I'm not going to pull it up.
	We're not pulling this one up, Nick.
	Is it bad?
	No.
	Well, I just read one of your tweets.
	No, no, no.
	You just said, advice to the men, strong feminine women will submit to you as their alpha if you prove to them that you can give them a better life than they can give themselves.
	But it's actions, not words.
	Yeah, that is true.
	Like, I don't want to be told how alpha you are.
	If I can just feel your vibe, you don't need to say anything.
	That's kind of lame.
	I'll just know.
	It's pretty lame if a guy calls himself alpha.
	I mean, A, the guys that I'm going for aren't really running around calling themselves alpha.
	Yeah, you are on the show.
	Alpha.
	Because you didn't present yourself.
	You're respectful.
	You can just feel that it's an alpha.
	Granted, this, yeah, exactly.
	You can just feel the male energy.
	And so I truly believe that.
	And honestly, like, I've met a lot of guys like that.
	So I don't want to hear that it's like not real because it's definitely real.
	That guys have strong enough male presence that you're just like, okay.
	Yeah, that is very true.
	Being alpha is nothing that you, as you said, it's not something you wear in your t-shirt and be like, I'm alpha.
	That's something that a woman sense in you.
	And she chooses to submit to that, you know, to you as her man.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I mean, I had some notes on that.
	So what's your take?
	On what?
	On what?
	Well, I wonder, though, like, so, okay.
	So you're engaged in sex work.
	Do you think that that has been a challenge for you to finding these types of strong, good men that you would be prepared to submit to?
	Maybe you have.
	I don't know.
	No, and oddly, this has been something that's kind of been something actually that like you hear guys say, but I didn't really think it was true.
	But it's, it's true.
	There is this like brand of guy out there that's very that is probably he's not going to be faithful to you, right?
	Like he's not going to be faithful to you.
	He's probably high performing in every area of his life.
	He's probably doing everything to the most, right?
	And with that comes some things, but he might also be a very, he might be high performing as being a provider.
	He might be high performing as being a father, right?
	He might be high performing and all these other things that it's kind of like, hey, if I'm going to be with somebody for the rest of my life, like, yeah, I do want him to be a provider.
	I do want him to be a father.
	I don't necessarily like the person who I'm going to, who I would have kids with, like, if we broke up, that's kind of the requirement.
	Like, if we broke up, I would still want you to be my kid's dad.
	You know what I mean?
	So I'm looking for the guy where it's like, regardless of like what happens with us, like you A, have good genetics, right?
	And you're gonna, you're gonna give me a great little leader baby one day.
	You know what I mean?
	Who's gonna take over the world?
	And then B, you're gonna show up for the kid.
	And you might go out and do stuff, right?
	But like my main concerns are that I don't have to be the one being like, oh shit, back to the salt mines, right?
	Like back to OnlyFans now that I've had a kid, right?
	Like I better go like figure it out.
	Like, no, we are not, if I ever get pregnant, I will know for a fact that I will not have to work and we'll have it terms.
	Like wait, so when you get pregnant, you don't want, oh, did you have, sorry?
	No, it was me.
	About the kid thing and alpha.
	Okay.
	But I'll let her.
	Oh.
	Yeah, that's just my personal opinion because.
	So when you have kids, you don't want, you want to stop working?
	I don't want the pressure to.
	I probably will never stop working because I get bored.
	Okay.
	But I like to do things and I like to see my ideas manifest themselves.
	But I don't want this pressure of kind of like, okay, I have to figure out how to pay rent now while I'm also like dealing with this like maybe like child, right?
	That's like you have to take care of.
	Like that's a lot of pressure.
	And I know women do it.
	I don't want to be one of those women.
	You said you're currently dating three high-value men, correct?
	In my opinion.
	But do you want commitment?
	One of them, no.
	No.
	One of them, it's still super new, but I'm kind of like, okay, you at least like check out.
	And I like the things that I'm looking for about you, but it's still super new to say whether or not, you know what I mean?
	These are like six months long distance.
	Like that's not very of seeing each other maybe like three times in between talk.
	You know, it's like I'm still kind of figuring out.
	Yeah.
	And just to go back to your tweet, you said advice to the men, strong feminine women will submit to you as their alpha if you prove to them that you can give them a better life than they can give themselves, but it's actions, not words.
	So I guess my question is, and I don't know if you're speaking more in general terms, or is this almost from the lens of since you're involved in sex work?
	I mean, actually, it's generally.
	So my mom and dad have been married for like 50 years.
	Are they still married?
	Yeah, they're still married.
	They've been married for 50 years.
	They're amazing, right?
	They're really normal people.
	My brother's really normal people.
	I'm the black sheet, and I know.
	And that's kind of why I own it because everybody's like, she's one of us, right?
	You know?
	And so, but my dad is that alpha man to my mom.
	My mom has not worked this entire time, and I know it's a different generation, and their boomers and their financial situation was different.
	But like, that is my modeling.
	And I'm okay having to give that to myself.
	Like, I'm okay having to give myself the things that my dad gives my mom, but I am looking for a guy to give that to me.
	And in return, I will build the amazing fucking home that my mom built.
	Sure, I've been doing it.
	Like, you know, yeah.
	Did you have someone?
	Yeah, touch on the kid thing.
	I had actually a prominent guy, a friend, a friend of mine.
	We were discussing stuff and we were discussing a mutual gym friend that would make half of the girls at the gym pregnant the whole time.
	He would just be like, YOLO, and finishing in them without condoms.
	And I was like, This is very odd to me because that's this.
	Wait, did he actually wait?
	Hold on.
	Yeah, he literally said, fuck it, YOLO.
	Wait, he literally said that.
	He actually got them pregnant.
	Yeah, and then had them to do.
	Just to be clear, I don't think that's high-value behavior.
	Yeah, no, together.
	No, it's not.
	That's not.
	It's not a friend we're talking about.
	It's mutual behavior.
	Yeah, that's why we're talking about that.
	We were talking about him.
	I was like, this is not okay because this is not good.
	He's like, well, you know, if you think about it that way, if you see somebody that is like a high-value woman, which you can see that she will give you good offspring, and he sees himself as a high-value man that can produce good offspring, why not?
	And I'm like, do I have to draw you a picture?
	Why not?
	It's like you can't just run around impregnating people.
	Yeah, and the other thing, too, unless if you're Elon Musk or a guy that is rich enough to actually need an heir, you don't need to do this.
	Right?
	So it's like, I know for a fact that it's weird.
	Like, I have this weird, maybe I have the same weird sick fantasy that like they do, right?
	Where I'm like, yeah, we'll build this little army empire that will like save the world one day.
	Yeah.
	You know, I don't know, or they'll be a superhero or something.
	I will use my mom's powers, right?
	To like make sure that this kid is like something amazing and saves the world.
	So it's kind of like, I don't want to have kids and settle if it's not like I understand where he comes from, though, about that like couple being, you know, good for each other and producing nice children, but you can't impregnate every woman you see.
	Yeah.
	Not every woman is the right person.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, the act of having a kid is easy, but the act of raising a kid is extremely difficult.
	So if you ask a man to be high value to invest in you, and Schbutler donated $100.
	Dustin Hoffman and Cube Gooding Jr. are on their way.
	They'll be in hazmat suits and looking to take blood samples so a happy antidote can be created.
	Jay Butler, you should just like write the show instead of doing all this.
	I'm really excited for that antidote.
	I mean, at least he's paying right.
	Yeah, he's got some good storylines.
	I think he's going somewhere with this.
	Tell him to contact Talent Testing Service.
	He's a screenwriter, I think, also on the side.
	It's beautiful for him.
	Yeah.
	In addition to being your urologist.
	So you said your parents are still together.
	What do your parents think of you being involved in sex work?
	So for me, it's different because honestly, like with the camming and the OnlyFans stuff, my brother's a video game designer.
	So, and then my dad did marketing.
	And so this is kind of like all, and then everyone either does e-commerce or other forms of marketing online.
	So just not really like, I know it's different for other people, but for us, it's kind of like, okay, this is like not that different than what it's pretty different.
	I mean, I'm the hot one too, right?
	I mean, I have other pretty cousins and stuff, but I was the one that decided to be like, you know what?
	Not scared to put myself out there like this, and I wasn't born hot either, so it's kind of like it definitely was a conscious choice to try to get out.
	What do you mean, you weren't born hot?
	I wasn't born hot.
	That's are you talking about like plastic surgery?
	Yeah, like I've definitely no, not just that though, but eating healthier and like learning to do my makeup better.
	Like, I just like you get better, right?
	I'm looking at the girls, yeah, yeah.
	You definitely, there's this like thing that men like in men's minds where it's like youth is beautiful, but but the truth is, though, like you do actually learn how to have better style and like do yourself better and classier and like look better when you're older because you're not green at it.
	Well, yeah, I mean, I think as you age, you typically over the course of time you become less physically attractive.
	I've had a lot of experience this whole I was way uglier when I was younger.
	I took a lot of time.
	Yeah, it was not even and I'm confirmed with it.
	You're older.
	I think we reach a 40.
	You're 40.
	Yes.
	So let me ask you a question: Are you more physically attractive now at 40 than you were at, say, 20?
	I can tell you, dude, you would not look at me when I was in my 20s.
	Can you show me if I highly doubt that?
	But how about when you're 30?
	I think are you more attractive?
	I'm more attractive now.
	Well, I would say I put because I am 40, you as a woman have to take more care of yourself because you know you get older and you want to stay good looking.
	I'm not saying that I want to look like a 25-year-old.
	That's not what I'm saying, or 15-year-old.
	But I do want to feel comfortable in my own body and I want to feel healthy and good.
	So you do more for yourself the older you get.
	You know, you eat healthier, you work out more.
	Maybe you, you know, you go a little Botox, you do this, you do that.
	We're women and we want to stay pretty.
	Maybe also eating fat has a lot to do with it.
	Like in high school, a lot of girls are going through like weird eating stuff.
	So for me, a big reason why I look better now is because I eat a diet that has like a lot of healthy fats.
	And in high school, I had this weird, like, no, I'm never going to eat any fat.
	Like, I have a fat-free diet.
	And now my skin is straight up.
	Like, I look 10 years younger now.
	Like, in high school, everyone thought I was 21.
	And now it's like, yeah.
	Go ahead.
	What do you have?
	All right.
	So, in all honesty, I think that in their 20s, I mean, at least on a personal level, I definitely think I'm in my best shape.
	Like, I have a curvier body and I work out, whatever.
	And like you said, you do learn to take, you know, your style.
	I do think we reach a peak.
	I think that that's probably around like your late 30s.
	And I think from there, how old are you?
	Peak at like 31.
	I'm like, no, no, no.
	I don't think so.
	And I'm not disagreeing.
	I'm not saying everybody.
	Yeah, but I'm just saying that.
	I'm saying like, I think that that's like our max that we can reach.
	And then we start to get a little bit more.
	And you want to know.
	I'm not going to max it out.
	So let me just say, I'm going to be like a little pink forever.
	But you think a woman's peak physical beauty is late 30s.
	I think if a woman really takes care of themselves, they can really push their beauty to like, you know, I mean, like, I look at J-Lo and like there was a point in J-Lo's like 40s where I was like, she's hotter than a lot of 20-year-olds that I know.
	I mean, I mean, like, but was she hotter at 20 than she was 40?
	No.
	But this is the thing.
	No, no, no.
	But J-Lo is just very different because she's always like taking care of herself.
	I'm saying like some women, like, I know a lot of friends from high school that reached their peak in high school.
	Yeah.
	And that's true also.
	And now I look at them and like, you know, I'm sorry.
	I don't mean to bash people, but like I look at them and they just didn't take care of themselves and they had a beautiful body.
	And now they're, they gained a lot of weight.
	You know, they just stopped caring.
	So I think it's different for every woman.
	But I think that if you really care about your physical appearance and you work out, you can, you can stay like really pretty hot at like you can, yes, you can still be attractive.
	Okay, you can still be attractive.
	Oh my gosh, we should get pearls.
	on stop you can still be attractive at an older age but just the biological reality is you're let's let's take a 40 year old woman She was more physically attractive at 30.
	She was more physically attractive at 20.
	Okay, no.
	Can I say something, please?
	No, I got everything.
	I got what I'm saying.
	Video game design.
	Marketing, same as sex work, monkey playing symbols in the brain.
	Tattoos on women showing security agenda to men looking for insecure and easy.
	Walsh top G panel, what is a woman?
	Wait, I don't.
	Are you having a manic episode?
	What is a woman?
	Can I touch on the weight thing, though, and the aging thing?
	So.
	Jacama, I'll.
	Actually, fuck it.
	Let's just go.
	We'll come back to the aging thing.
	Yeah, let's talk, man.
	What is a woman?
	Yeah.
	What is a woman?
	We'll go around the table starting with you.
	Oh, and yeah, I, um, I do believe that a woman is, I, I don't want to get in trouble, but I don't believe in picking your, your gender at the way people are right now.
	Okay.
	And I support people that are going through whatever they're going through, but I do not agree with it.
	And I think that women, that God decides who a man and a woman is, except for in some really weird situations, except for in some really specific situations and where everybody is very aware of, like, yeah, you've got two dicks.
	Like, we get it.
	Or whatever it is.
	Like, I don't think that it's big.
	Or whatever it is.
	I don't think it's this big.
	Don't happen.
	I think that when there are hermaphrodites, it's not this common to say.
	No, yeah, that's a, that's a, yeah.
	We'll go around the table.
	What is a woman?
	I honestly don't, I don't think, I don't, I mean, a woman is a woman who was born a woman, a biological woman.
	I'm just going to say that.
	Yeah, okay.
	Good.
	Yeah, honestly, same.
	We get periods.
	I'm like, yeah.
	I'm not transphobic, but listen, if you're not getting a period, you're not pushing out a baby, you're not dealing with what we are every month, you're not a woman.
	It's not the same.
	So cancel me if you want, but that's how I feel.
	I agree with them.
	A woman is a woman that was born a woman.
	If they draw your blood and it says a woman, you're a woman.
	I'm just a human being's double exchromosomes.
	Okay, all right.
	Born a woman.
	That's a woman.
	Do you have an answer on this, man?
	Hot take now, no.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Born a woman, you're a woman.
	God designed male and female.
	Wow.
	Yeah, he ordered it that way.
	The one thing I'd like to say.
	It's a woman.
	A woman is an adult human female.
	Okay, back to the age thing, though.
	Was it you that had something?
	So, for instance, I was very skinny, very athletic, worked out my whole life.
	I was in sports, gained a lot of weight at 21 because, again, I did not deal with my mom's death.
	Can I have you tilt the mic to just kind of be straight?
	Yeah, yeah, perfect, perfect.
	So I'll be brutally honest.
	I'm not, like, first of all, I'm not an idiot.
	I'm big.
	I know that.
	I gained about 85 pounds.
	I've just lost 40 pounds on my own because I realized.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	I realized that man held me back.
	And now I'm going to the gym.
	I'm working harder.
	I'm eating better.
	So, yes, I might have been fat as hell in my 20s, but my 30s, I'm going to be skinny and I'm going to look great because I'm going to put in that work just like you guys are saying.
	It's my choice.
	I'm going to wake up every day to eat healthier, to not drink, to not smoke.
	Walmart donated $100.
	Real simple.
	A 40-year-old woman who works out and does great makeup can be hotter than the same woman at 20.
	If GigaFat 400 pounds at 20 years, will be hotter.
	Literally nailed it.
	Wait, I'm not.
	Are you sure you listen to that?
	Wait, what is A?
	It says a 40-year-old.
	It can be hotter than the same woman at 20 if she was 400 pounds at 20.
	Yeah, 20.
	So same.
	You guys are taking Extreme scenarios.
	So, given, so say there's this mythical lady out there who started working out, taking care of herself from the age of like five, and she was taught by her mom.
	This is how we're gonna do it.
	Her dad is like in love with her mom, and they see like she has the ideal version of parents.
	So, she grows up and she's taking care of herself.
	When she hits that age of 19 or 20, she's still taking care of herself.
	She will be more sexually attractive in her 20s than she will be in her 40s.
	Not saying that she won't be beautiful in her 40s.
	So, like, I think comparatively, for that woman, if given that she didn't have a weight problem, given all these other factors, if everything was held the same, she's going to be more attractive when she's 19, 20 than when she's in her 40s.
	So, what I think this is for men and young women, why they're attracted to them, is because they know Brightside $110 donated $100.
	Hope you are doing well, Brian.
	First time you're going to be aware of that.
	Thank you, man.
	Thank you.
	I love you.
	Definitely, dude.
	Long live the horde, you know.
	Like, what are you, undead, Torrin, troll, orc?
	What are we talking about?
	Thank you very much, Brightside.
	Really appreciate it.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	So, what I think it has to do, men want to put every, like, they want to put their penis and everything, and that has nothing to do with like they want to impregnate women.
	Not everybody.
	Animals are off the table.
	No, but women, they want to impregnate women.
	Appliances, various household appliances.
	I wouldn't fuck a household appliance.
	And if a woman likes a lamp, maybe like a vacuum love couch, I might consider like if it's curvy, like a curvy love couch, I'll give it a curvy couch.
	Listen, I don't mean it as disrespect at all.
	I support it.
	That's nature.
	And that is what it is.
	I don't know.
	You have a virgin man sitting across from you, by the way.
	What I mean, I'm not saying he doesn't have the urge.
	You have the urge.
	Of course.
	This man has never wanted to be a man.
	Because he has a strong-minded man.
	Yeah, I can say safely I've never wanted to have sex with a lamp or other inanimate objects.
	Yes.
	Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	Anyway, continue.
	He wants to have sex with females because it's a part of, you know, impregnating women.
	And men know that the younger you are, the more chance of you having babies and you're fertile.
	Yes, that's a good point.
	Yeah, that's a great point.
	Well, that's one of the reasons why men find youthful characteristics attractive.
	100%.
	Because that's an indicator of fertility.
	Fertility.
	Me as a woman.
	Yeah, when I see, for example, you, you're a strong man, you're smart, you're educated, you seem to be a good father, which means I would give my vagina to you.
	You give the vagina.
	You're married.
	No, but I mean, I mean, hierarchical.
	Oh, okay.
	Because I know you would be a good father.
	And if I was 20, you would be like, yeah, she would probably have my baby.
	And a virgin.
	And a virgin.
	So, but you know where I'm going with this, right?
	It's, but would you want to date a 19-year-old or a 20-year-old if you're a guy that's older?
	What would you have in common?
	Would you marry a girl?
	And that, what would you have in common with a girl like that?
	I have an answer, but you go ahead, Mason.
	Yeah, well, I don't think there has to be like, it depends what you mean by have in common.
	So commonality, like, I probably would have a lot of things in common with women who are 19, 20 years old.
	Yeah, because you're in the same bracket.
	Okay, well, I'm like 27, so I'm getting up there.
	But yeah, yeah, exactly.
	But if you were 40 or 45.
	So 40, 45, even then, like, okay, that is, that is quite the distance.
	But Especially as a Christian man, like as long as we have God in common, as long as they're like, if we have the same goals, if she wants to step behind me in my aspirations, if she wants to help me achieve my mission in life, yeah, I mean, I don't see the problem with dating someone who's significantly younger than you.
	So I'll answer that question.
	So you ask, what does an older man have in common with a younger woman?
	Very much younger.
	I'm not saying young, but very much.
	Say you're 45 and she's 20.
	Okay.
	Sure.
	So it's not about having something in common.
	It's what people find attractive.
	Because do you think that is having things in common a high priority for any of you when choosing a partner?
	Yes.
	I doubt.
	I highly know for me, it is very, very important.
	Yeah.
	You might say that, but I highly doubt that commonalities for men or women are high on the totem pole when it comes to who you're going to find attractive.
	But if I find you attractive, I'm not going to be a good person.
	I'm just saying now.
	Like physically attractive, right?
	Yeah.
	For two months, and he's, we have nothing in common.
	It's just the sex.
	Like, I don't build my relationships on sex.
	I just do not because that's not how you can, okay.
	Yeah, like that'll only take you so far.
	Kind of like a guy says, oh, a woman's attractive.
	It's the same thing for us.
	Like, we don't need just a guy to be a Chad for us.
	Like, we don't need a Chad.
	No, But let me ask.
	Okay, so have you ever, because if commonality is the ultimate or the penultimate thing when it comes to deciding if you want to sleep with somebody or have a relationship or marry them, I'm sure there's been plenty of men that all of you here have had tons in common with, but you didn't want to date them because you didn't find them attractive or they didn't meet some other metric.
	So commonality is frankly irrelevant or very low on the totem pole of what's important for both men and women when it comes to who we decide to partner with.
	Disagree.
	Now there's certain things, there's shared values, there's shared values, but commonality.
	If a girl doesn't like the same music as me, I don't know.
	No, I don't, I don't mean chemistry is important.
	If you have too many differences, you will not have chemistry in rhythm with another person.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like chemistry of music.
	Okay, but what like what do these women, like what does a woman have in common?
	Like let's say she makes $40,000 a year.
	What does she have in common with a guy who makes $1 million a year?
	Should she not be attracted to him because she doesn't have that commonality with him?
	I can tell you why that woman is attracted to him because he makes a $1 million a year.
	And I can tell you why men are attracted to young women because they're beautiful.
	Yeah.
	And they're more fertile.
	They're more female.
	They're not commonality.
	They're more fertile, lower body count, less past relationships.
	That's not necessarily true.
	I mean, I know a lot of young girls that spend their nights at a bar every weekend.
	But a young woman is more light.
	What can I say?
	I know you're saying it in an attract just physical attraction way.
	Do you think it's more of like preference?
	Because I know that when I was 20, I was very skinny.
	And now I'm 31 and I have the curves that most men like.
	So I think I'm definitely more attractive now.
	I definitely get more attention now.
	So maybe it's like, do you think it's a preference thing that like some guys might like because I know I know guys that like really young girls and I know guys that find it kind of creepy when a girl is like 19 like they don't find that attractive at all.
	So I think it's more of like a preference.
	I mean it's a preference.
	Truthfully, they probably find it creepy because society has tried to pathologize men's innate attraction triggers and preferences.
	No, because I think also the thing that we're forgetting, and this there is actual statistic data that will back this up.
	The birth rate across the board has gone down.
	So, having children is clearly not a societal priority as much as it used to be.
	And data will not, and you can look it up.
	There's a lot of data that will back this.
	So, I think that people's preferences will change now that their objectives are clearly changing.
	Well, no, I don't think they're not.
	I disagree because I'm busy with people who have very different, and I think it's literally different mindsets.
	When it comes to men's preference for younger women, because, for example, the fertility argument, younger women are more fertile, that's not something that's even necessarily intellectualized by men.
	Oh, she's young, she's more capable of bearing children.
	It could be, however, like let's say there's a guy who's 35, 40, and he wants to have a family, he wants to have kids, he hasn't had that yet.
	He's probably like a 40-year-old guy, he's probably going to look at a woman in her late 20s, early 30s versus a woman closer to his age because a woman who's look women up until mid-40s can still get pregnant, but your best bet for having a kid is like late or late 20s, early 30s.
	After you hit 35, your chance of getting pregnant starts decreasing.
	But women, how does that play into guys wanting relationships with 19-year-olds?
	Well, it's kind of like biologically programmed into you.
	Because they're all talking about the fact that I thought we were talking about attraction.
	I thought it was an attraction thing.
	I don't know, but that is because of their attracted to younger women because they know women, it's built into a man to find a younger woman attractive.
	Generally speaking, if women who are in their 35, like 30s and 40s, they typically nowadays will have squandered their fertility in singleness.
	Yeah.
	So they have wasted their fertility.
	So they've spent all of their 20s partying it up, living a single lifestyle where they could have been using their fertility and finding a man who is going to sacrifice himself for them and give them the life that they probably really do want.
	But instead, they wasted all that time.
	So when, as a man, I want to find a woman who is going to give me the best possible chance of having a successful relationship.
	And generally speaking, that's going to be with somebody who has less emotional baggage, less relationship baggage, and a higher likelihood of fertility.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I agree with you.
	Yeah, I don't think we disagree.
	I think that's how it is.
	Like, the guys who are attracted to me are usually like men that are over 50 and usually, you know, they're divorced or, you know, they have a kid.
	It's not guys that are young.
	I mean, there are.
	I'm not saying they're not.
	I'm just saying majority of guys that are in my group that express, oh, I would date you or marry you or whatever, or usually older, they're either divorced or separated or whatever.
	I'm fine with that because I'm attracted to the same thing.
	Look, here's why men prefer younger women.
	Aside from the fertility, well, I mean, I can mention this.
	They're more physically attractive, more emotionally available, tend to be more romantic.
	They have more energy and they're more optimistic about the future.
	They have more time to live life, travel the world before starting a family.
	They're more fertile, less baggage, excuse me, less baggage and trauma, more open to new ideas, less stuck in their ways, stuck in a job city, more agreeable, tend to be easier to build a life with.
	Also, more grateful and easily satisfied, whereas a woman who's dated 20 other men who've provided XYZ, they're gonna be like, oh, okay.
	But usually you have a Ferrari, my ex has a Ferrari too.
	Usually these women date guys that are usually also divorced, maybe have a couple of kids.
	You know, older girls don't go for younger guys either.
	You know, I have to say, there's, I mean, yes, some of them do, but it's not for well, men and women are attracted.
	There's not symmetry in what men and women are attracted to.
	We're both attracted to different things.
	And just to add to the list here, younger woman's less likely to have children or a psychoex.
	So, yeah.
	I mean, I don't disagree.
	I'm just still kind of perplexed.
	Like, y'all, I mean, I didn't get the answer from everybody.
	Yeah.
	But you were saying, like, you think a woman's peak peak is 39?
	It can be.
	Is it can be?
	No, It is.
	No.
	Uh-uh.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry to give you a red pill here.
	You're going to tell me.
	Sorry.
	I'm not saying that it's like that for everybody.
	This is just for me personally and how I feel.
	Can we pull up how I look?
	Yeah.
	You actually, I think we're Instagram.
	You're going to tell me that a woman, like, for instance, me, who was an ugly duckling when I was in my 20s, because I gained so much weight and now I've already lost so much that people have drastically noticed that somehow we're not going to get better looking.
	I'm literally walking proof and I'm still work in progress.
	I'm not saying I'm perfect.
	I'm not saying I'm skinny, but I'm losing it.
	And I see the difference and I feel it from men, from women, everything.
	Sure.
	So if I can concede that you might be at a lighter weight.
	However, there are just certain biological realities when it comes to, for example, somebody's skin, other things when it comes to youth.
	It's just the reality.
	I mean, I don't know what you looked like when you were younger, but like, let's say you were just 130 pounds.
	I was 108 when I tested for Playboy.
	When was that?
	2010.
	Oh, and you were what?
	How old then?
	2010, 19.
	Wait, so are you saying when you were 19 and you weighed 108 pounds?
	And I looked terrible in the face.
	It was like my nose overtook it.
	My face hadn't fully grown into my body, so my body looked great.
	I was always a pretty girl, but I did not look facially as pretty as I do now.
	But okay, but we can agree on that one.
	That's fine.
	And I don't have work done.
	So you're saying when you were 19 and you weighed 108 pounds, you're more attractive now at 32.
	And I mean, this is not a question I typically ask, but how much do you weigh?
	Right now I'm at 170.
	I was at 218.
	Okay, so 19, 17.
	Okay, 19, 108 versus 32, 170 pounds.
	Are you making the argument that you're more physically attractive now?
	No.
	Oh, I'm making the argument.
	Well, hold on, second.
	I'm making the argument I'm more physically attractive in the face, absolutely, but in the body, no.
	Well, I mean, without seeing pictures, it would be hard for me to say.
	You said you did something for Playboy, which is a little bit more.
	Yeah, I tested.
	You tested.
	Yeah.
	Do you have?
	I didn't get in.
	I have the photos, yeah, but I didn't get in the magazine because of my tattoo.
	It's hard to say, but I would say that for both men and women, you start to age a bit in the face.
	People start getting wrinkles.
	Absolutely.
	That's what's going to happen.
	Skin loses its tautness.
	So, I mean, I mean, I guess you guys will.
	I get what you're saying.
	I was saying, just an individual level, like, you know, personality.
	Yeah, everyone's different.
	I like it.
	You can do it a little bit.
	We want to talk about wrinkles.
	Like, you know, I had the 11.
	You know, I got Botox for the first time in my life this month, too.
	So, like.
	Yeah, that's cheating, though.
	But there's even men.
	It is what it is.
	It is what it is.
	People, men have wrinkles in their early 20s.
	Yeah, you go there a 30-year-old, now you're a 30-year-old back in like my parents' generations.
	Like, it's crazy.
	The difference is, it really does.
	We have to do it.
	I think you don't have to get ugly.
	What you guys are before tanning was a big factor on skin.
	Let me tell you.
	And the 90s, because I used to work at the salons, the 90s, that went up ever since melanoma and everything.
	It's a big factor.
	Really bad for your skin.
	You age 2020.
	Okay, we're not saying that a woman who's 30, 35, 40, 45 can't be physically attractive.
	That's not what we're saying.
	But you guys are making the argument that women peak when their physical beauty in their late 30s.
	No, that's absolutely not the truth.
	You know what it is?
	I think we're both.
	It's not personal.
	I think we're across the board.
	Across the board, people are more.
	I would argue even both men and women are more physically attractive when they're younger.
	And no, men are not.
	There's a difference.
	I get what you're saying, though.
	I personally think I was more physically attractive 10 years ago than I am now.
	I would probably find you more attractive now because you're more of a man.
	Man, he's saying, like, in an innerly physical thing.
	Like, you're youth.
	If a guy looks too youthful to me, then he's not, then I don't really recognize him as my alpha.
	Yeah, but I think it's a little bit different.
	But now I'm understanding how to be different.
	Yeah, but now I'm understanding what he's saying.
	He's pretty much just saying like the youthful part of our body.
	Like we do start aging.
	I started noticing like my youth decrease at like literally exactly when I turned 30.
	I started seeing like little wrinkles.
	So I do, I actually understand what you're saying now.
	What I was trying to argue is very different.
	So I think we're both kind of like at this point talking about two separate things.
	Yeah.
	Did you have something, Mason?
	No, yeah.
	I think it goes into, so you're saying like you can be attractive to men.
	So you're not very attracted to guys who are very youthful.
	I think that goes into the fact that you're generally not attracted to guys who are not mature, who are not going to be that alpha dude.
	So you want a guy who is going to be able to take the lead, and that generally increases with age.
	So for men, we don't want that.
	We want a woman who's not as experienced so that we can lead them where they don't have all of that emotional baggage, that relationship baggage.
	Some guys are tired of having to lead women.
	Yeah.
	And isn't it a little bit different?
	Some guys get very exhausted when they have to lead women in a way that they don't want to lead them.
	I'm not saying they don't want to lead them, but I'm saying if it's not the way that they like it, they don't really prefer it.
	You know, they're very attractive in both of you.
	Yeah.
	And I think men don't want to lead subordinate, insubordinate women.
	Yeah.
	They don't want not the situation they want, right?
	Like you were saying, there is a parent.
	Like they want the exact thing that they like.
	If they want you to be a subordinate woman, then that is what that guy wants.
	If they want to be aware of that.
	Okay, these words.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Just address that.
	Like, words have to have meaning.
	So if you want a man who's a leader, there's two sides of the coin there.
	In order to lead, somebody has to follow.
	So what we have going on, I view, I think men to some degree lack leadership, and women certainly are not prepared to follow.
	Right, that's the era of like whatever.
	I think a good way in following, though, is the word support.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I think that what happens is that you have two kings fighting for a crown.
	Right.
	You know what I mean?
	I do have something.
	Yeah, then I have to show the bow video.
	So, yeah, I mean, okay.
	If you're a true leader, you need somebody that is going to support your mission.
	So, like, if we're going to take the military as our example, there is somebody at the very top of the military making all of the decisions.
	Now, if the people below me are going against my mission, I'm going to kick them out.
	Get them out of there.
	They are not helping me support my mission.
	So, as a man, I want to find a wife who is going to support my mission.
	And if she is constantly kicking my legs out and going in the opposite direction as me, she's not following.
	She's not submitting.
	Yeah, and she's not letting me lead.
	It's not a, it's her sacrificing her choice, not choice, but her desires in order to support me in my mission.
	It's like you, as a man, don't want a woman that you feel you have to push up the hill.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
	I feel like you don't want to push her up the hill.
	If she can't walk up that hill, then fuck her.
	Not only that.
	I'm sorry.
	But I feel like it is what it is.
	You know, if you can't push her up the hill.
	Yeah, you know, like what I mean with that is a man doesn't want to always try to push her.
	Like a man wants exhausting.
	You can't get her weight.
	No, I'm walking.
	You're behind me.
	Yeah, but what I, but to get her up the hill, he has to get her up the hill.
	The thing is, a lot of people, I ain't pushing.
	Exactly.
	That's what you want.
	Exactly.
	I'm dragging.
	I'm not pushing.
	I drag.
	That's right.
	I'm not a dragger.
	I drag.
	Leave them there.
	Because for me, if you're like, if that's like, it's like a man who knows a situation, like, I don't push up the hill.
	I drag.
	You drag.
	If I have to drag you by your ankles, I'll drag you by the ankles.
	We could put something on.
	I say hair, but you can pick.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll know what the pushing woman is.
	I wanted to say the problem with the culture now is women want to be so goddamn independent, but then when it comes down to being like, oh, but wait, can you go do this?
	For me?
	Not only that, but I feel like right now, what a 21-year-old is probably not what a mature man that's looking for a relationship, like a serious relationship is.
	Like a lot of like 21-year-old, 22-year-olds are like partying, like they don't want to let go of their freedom.
	Like they just want to live that single life.
	So I think that like it's just something that when you're in a man and you're mature, you kind of don't want to be like with someone too, too young, maybe somebody that already reached that level of maturity.
	Because then you are, like you said, you're pushing that person and like having, and it's a lot of work for a man to have to like drag a woman.
	Like you want someone to be supportive, especially if you're such a, like if you're an entrepreneur and you're focused on your like mission, you don't want a woman like dragging you down, you know?
	And a lot of young girls can do that, especially like, I think it's more of like back in the days when like our parents were growing up and like there was like, you know, a very different lifestyle, like a 20-year-old woman was like a like a wife, like a mother, you know, like that's not a thing anymore.
	So yeah, Carla, go ahead and then I'm going to move on to another topic.
	So I think that that culture though is kind of reverting itself or because the struggles I have with my women or the women that I coach and just my community in general, they're like, I'm feminine.
	I'm giving it up.
	Like I want to be submissive.
	I want to find that man to be a leader.
	And they're like slowly not wanting to be that independent woman.
	Like they're all waking up.
	And I think now we're in a culture right now, in a period where we can't find leaders anymore because I honestly think that it's because of the public school system and just the school system and the education system in general.
	But I think that that version of women wanting to be independent is outdated.
	And the sooner we realize that, I think relationships are going to be a lot happier.
	Because again, I got married at 22 and I have, like, I could say I have friends that are married too and they're young.
	So a lot of women are waking up.
	They're like, uh-uh, this independent thing, that's a scam.
	Let's not do that.
	So I think the issue now is like men have to wake up too and they're not waking up fast enough for us ladies, I think.
	Can I add something to that?
	I think Now that, like, you know, it, I do see that a lot happening, but I think that now it's gonna get a little bit hard with men because sex is given so easily, so they're they're not forced to commit at this point.
	Yeah, yeah, that's that's it.
	It's like it's like these girls are out there and they're really like, why am I not getting the right man?
	But it's like, why would they commit when everybody else is just like, you know, having sex?
	So that's that's that's why I tell my ladies, I'm like, ah, we're not doing that.
	We're smarter than that.
	Let's be smarter.
	That, like, that they won't do it, but other girls are doing it.
	Yeah, yeah, but that's not the menu.
	But that's how you can tell a man from a boy.
	A man is like, oh no, she's a good one.
	I'm going for that one.
	That's exactly what happened to me.
	Yeah, but then it's hard to find.
	Then it's hard to find these men.
	But it's like one in a million at this point.
	No, no, no.
	If you'll wait a few minutes, I feel like that's maybe a confidence.
	She's a virgin.
	How generous of you.
	I'm a nice guy.
	I'm a nice guy.
	That's a limiting belief, I think, because I mean, I grew up with, you know, wanting to wait until marriage.
	And all the guys that I encounter, I've been very blessed with the relationships that I've had.
	They would respect me.
	And I know that there's a lot of men that would respect the woman that respects herself.
	A man is only going to go as far as a woman lets him.
	And I say this time and time again.
	So it's not the only way that we can fix the dating market is if we fix ourselves first.
	100%.
	So, and I, and I agree with you that other girls are giving it up easily, but that's not our problem.
	Our problem is like, let's differentiate between a boy and a man.
	A man is going to recognize very fast what wife material is versus just like a, you know, a fun time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The cat's out of the bag, though.
	The cat's out.
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	I want to go around the table really quick on this just to kind of put a cherry on top of the whole uh physical beauty age discussion.
	So, are you more attractive now, or will you be more attractive physically in 10 years?
	My mindset is that I will be more and more physically attractive every single day, and I'm gonna figure out a way to do that.
	Well, you're you're 28 right now, so you'll you're saying you'll be more physically attractive at 38.
	Every day is 10 points.
	Good idea.
	What about you?
	Um, I think that, well, from the women in my life that I've seen, I think I'm not at my peak yet because all the women in my life are very beautiful women, and they all peaked, I think, at age 35.
	So, I think I still am gonna get better as I age.
	The women peaked at 35 in my life.
	In my family, the women peaked at 35, like they got extremely more, they were already beautiful, but they got more beautiful as they aged at 35.
	So, what you're 23, will you be more attractive, physically attractive at 33 or as you are now?
	Um, I guess I'm I mean, I don't know.
	Well, with the way that things are going right now, I think I'm gonna be more attractive at 33.
	What about you?
	I mean, I'm gonna do everything I can to take care of myself.
	Okay, so you're 32.
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	So, anyway, so I mean, I'm going to do my best.
	I don't know if I'm going to look better at 42.
	No one here is going to know who's going to look better.
	But I will say I will attract the group I'm going for at that time because that's what I'm going to do.
	So, for me, it doesn't matter.
	Sure.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	Cares.
	I'm going to be honest here.
	I'm not planning on getting any Botox or doing anything.
	So, I'm definitely going to be looking better now.
	Well, let me double down on what you just said.
	Even if you were, let's say, 10 years into the future, you're 32.
	You go get Botox, you get lip filler, you get plastic surgery, you get XYZ cosmetic procedure.
	You're still not going to be more physically attractive.
	Like, I don't think so.
	Women, women, like 50-year-old women who get plastic surgery, it's not like you look 25.
	You look 50 with plastic surgery.
	Your skin looks very bouncy and useful when you're young.
	Like, you know, like when you look on the street, you know who's young and who's not.
	Sure.
	And me personally, and I don't know, Mason, I'd like for you to weigh in on this.
	I am a natural body supremacist.
	I'm not in favor of plastic surgery.
	I'm not in favor of cosmetic interventions.
	I'm not in favor.
	Frankly, this is the hot take I think that'll trigger a lot of people.
	Not a big fan of makeup either.
	Look, a little eyeline or whatever, I don't, not a big deal, but don't really like makeup either.
	So I'll tell my girl, like, you don't got to wear that shit.
	I'm going to agree with you 100%.
	Actually, my mom passed from plastic surgery, so that's why I won't get it done.
	I'm going to the gym to tighten my stomach.
	I'm hiring this Monica here to help me with that.
	Like, because I don't want to put my life at risk like that.
	It's not worth it.
	If I have to have saggy skin or be fat or whatever it is to save my life, I will eat as good as I can, whatever I can for my internal body and my organs.
	But if I can't control the skin that happened, I can't control it.
	I'm not going under a knife for it.
	Absolutely not.
	Yeah.
	Not worth it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I totally agree.
	Like, I'm 100% natural.
	So you guys.
	Yeah.
	Not for me.
	Like, plastic surgery just turns me off.
	I mean, it's not a fan.
	But what if your wife asks for like a mommy makeover?
	Like, if you have baby?
	If things changed, and even you're like, I could see it.
	What do you mean, a mommy makeover?
	Like a mommy makeover.
	Like, after she has like four, three, four.
	Because a lot of women, like after pregnancy, they have a lot of extra skin and stretch marks.
	And in order to get rid of like that sagging skin, like you have to actually cut it.
	And it does create a lot of insecurity in women.
	Sure.
	I mean, that I'm not even sure if that would even bother me, but if it was like something that was causing like severe concerns with her insecurity, like that's certainly something that could be pursued.
	But I would argue the vast majority of women who do have plastic surgery or undergo cosmetic procedures, it's not for like to fix a defect.
	It's actually purely for aesthetic and cosmetic reasons.
	But in their minds, it no, I disagree because like, so I, before I got my boobs, and obviously they're really big looking, so it like makes this point a little weird coming for me.
	Okay.
	But, um, but this was my world and just know that there's women with smaller boobs in between the scale.
	And I stopped wanting to have sex without a shirt on.
	I stopped or without a bra.
	I wanted to like keep my bra on in sex because I was, I had like natural D's and then I started working out a lot.
	And it's just like, you're, that's the first thing to go.
	That's like the least, the most sacrificial fat you have.
	And so my, I, I just like had this like, I would have good boobs and then I would have not good boobs.
	And it's like, you can only do that so many times before they just stay not good and not.
	What do you mean, not good?
	They get saggy, like even when you're young.
	That's okay.
	Not after a certain level, and then after the point where you don't want to take his shirt off.
	So, if you never saw your wife, whether or not it's in her mind or not, if she never wanted to take her bra off in bed with you, would that bother you?
	Whether you or not it was real or her Dolulu.
	Well, I would try.
	My goal would be, would be to tell her: one, I think you're beautiful, even with your perception.
	But what if she's dealing with a problem that's like way bigger than just yours?
	No, it's not you.
	It's not, you don't dictate people's psychological issues.
	No, but your own self-perception, but there is a component of like how you think other people perceive you.
	But if you, so, yes, it's your own self-perception, but also people will also factor in how are other people perceiving me.
	Yeah, I think if your partner.
	So, is that the part that bothers you that they're considering how other people are perceiving them other than you?
	No, is that the part the reason why it's not so like no, no, no, it's not about other people necessarily, but I think if your partners like you know makes you feel good about yourself, and they're like, for example, like a lot of women lose a lot of breast tissue after breastfeeding.
	So, you know, boobs get saggy, and like if your husband really loves you, they'll sag.
	I'm not gonna go and they'll really utilitarian.
	And like, they still find you attractive and they show you that they are like so like attracted to you and turned on by you, then like, I think that that does help coming from the person that you're having sex with.
	Yeah, but how, okay, you're talking about your breasts, right?
	So, like, here's my point: I would argue, unless there's like there are women who, for example, get cancer, who have breast cancer, yes, but that's like such a small minority of women who get fake tits.
	Well, my sister just had it, and her husband was all over her the whole time.
	But she loves her.
	Okay, so my position is, is he loves her when it comes to the plastic surgery, plastic surgery shit.
	I think women are beautiful as they are without the need for undergoing dangerous, expensive, and frankly, unnecessary, not medically indicated cosmetic surgery, which I honestly think at the end of the day makes women look worse.
	So, for example, I'd prefer a woman with A-cup, or I don't know if this is the most appropriate term, but if she was flat, I would prefer that over some big giant fake titties.
	Give me a little, a little belly fat over lipo, give me a small ass over a BBL, give me a small upper lip over lip fillers.
	Basically, take any woman with any of these procedures.
	I prefer her, however, they were before, I would prefer them as they were.
	So, you might have had I don't, it's more about my relationship with myself.
	I don't prefer it.
	Sure.
	And I will say I've had guys be like, oh, yeah, I loved you before.
	And then when I get it done, literally, people I knew since I'm like, you know what?
	Yeah, I see what you meant.
	Yeah, and also people eventually buckle and they're like, you know what?
	I know, like, because it is, we are programmed to tell people, you don't need plastic surgery.
	You do look like that is programming too.
	You know what I mean?
	And so it's like, but honestly, objectively speaking, no prior, like nothing else.
	Like people who saw me before and after, like, yeah, it looks better.
	Like, and it does.
	My nose and my boobs.
	Yeah.
	Your nose does look better.
	Your nose definitely looks better and the boobs definitely look better also.
	Like confirmation.
	But I, I'm not saying, I think, for example, if I had natural A cups and I didn't have to deal with, oh, I had natural D's and now I have saggy D's in high school.
	You know what I mean?
	Like that's really young to be having saggy boobs.
	That's why it bothered me so much.
	But if I just had A cups or even B cups and they were just small, I would have kept those.
	I'm going to put those.
	I love big titties.
	I don't have big titties.
	I love big titties.
	The end.
	I don't have to justify to anybody.
	I love big titties.
	I love big titties on myself.
	I love big titties on other people.
	I like titties.
	The end.
	Good.
	Congratulations.
	That's cool.
	I would just say I like to build my partner up.
	So if my girlfriend came to me or my wife, for example, asked my opinion on if she should get plastic surgery, I would try to do everything in my power to make her feel beautiful as she is and tell her I like her just as she is and steer her away from what, in my view, would be a wrong decision.
	According to you Yeah, but I think also we face a lot of pressure with social media.
	Yeah, and you are just one guy and there's a lot of different people out there.
	Most, if you ask most men, I've been asking a lot.
	That was a conversation my husband and I had coming up here.
	I was like, what about a mommy makeover?
	And then we just started talking about it and he's like honestly well, we started talking about like before dating and like women, you know, or very young women getting like no surgery, or like getting you know different things done to them.
	He's like I would feel in a way like betrayed because I'm getting you know, I'm dating you, or like marrying you because I think that you're gonna produce those genes with our, our children.
	So he's like, in that sense, I would feel in a way like betrayed and I wouldn't be attracted to that because I want to see who you really are.
	So that was like his point.
	Again, it's just one in like a billion people, so it doesn't um, but but I understand what what both what, both points, and I think that at that point he also already loves you, like in the moment of you going through that process.
	But if you're like single and you like, let's say, like a single mother right, and she's now dating again, a guy's not really going to be like ooh, that's hot, you know, because it's not from his kid.
	So you know, I'm I think that we all should be a little flexible with people.
	I mean, you might not like it, but it's.
	You have fake titties.
	Do I have fake titties?
	That's a funny question.
	Okay, so I had my daughter and I breastfed for a year and a half and I had D's so I had to refill because they definitely were not sitting where they used to.
	Yeah, so did you do fat transfer or?
	Um no, I.
	So I didn't want to go like, I didn't want to cut skin because I did have like big boobs before my daughter um, so I went to different surgeons and they and he told me, and they told me like I had to like cut skin and go cut my areolium or areola.
	And then I went to one doctor and he's like all you have to do is like you have, like you have tissue, you have everything.
	You just have to refill a little bit.
	And I did do it and it's not something that I'm like.
	I'm not pro surgery and even like when I got Botox this month for the first time, I tried to push off as much as I could because I'm not like into it.
	But I am gonna say I do feel a lot better now that I have them.
	But well, in that age I was young, so I was in my early 20s when I got them, so I did feel better.
	Now that I'm in my 30s I can't, I will say like I probably wouldn't have gotten it done just because they weren't bad.
	It was more of just an insecurity as a young 20 year old.
	You know yeah, Mason doesn't like plastic surgery.
	What's up?
	What you got, oh sorry, go ahead.
	Oh, there you go.
	Well, it's just.
	Also, another thing is in LA.
	It's really like for those who are from here it's extremely hard to gear away from not getting surgery because there's so much pressure.
	So for the pressure.
	Well, I grew up in Orange County.
	So if you're from Orange County, you already know that.
	And if you're not from Orange County, I will enlighten you.
	Three out of four women are plastic surgery done.
	Like maybe three and a half out of four.
	It's not.
	It's not.
	Go check how many plastic surgeons are in Newport Beach alone.
	Failed society.
	It is.
	It is terrible.
	And it is a society thing.
	And I'm going to say, like, I am Latina, and in our culture, like, everybody has the BBLs.
	Yeah.
	And there's been time, like, you know, I have a butt, but that's because I work really hard for it.
	Yeah.
	And like, the like boobs is a little different because you can't really work out for your boobs.
	But right now, like, especially like men just kind of get like sucked into like these like big butts and like whatever.
	So women tend to go on that.
	I don't like that.
	No, not fucking.
	I don't like that.
	I'm talking about like our culture.
	It's society right now.
	It's not men.
	It's not men that are pressuring women to getting plastic surgery.
	It's other women that are pressuring women to get plastic surgery.
	Most men, if you honestly ask most men, they don't want women.
	They don't want women with plastic surgery.
	When it comes to the BBL, that thing looks terrible.
	It does look like that.
	It's never out menu.
	I haven't ever seen that look good.
	First off, you got to work for that shit.
	If you want a good ass, you got to work for it.
	Work for the BBL.
	I have to say personally, like, I've always liked.
	You got the BBL?
	No.
	Should I be honest?
	Yes.
	Oh, I think it's not a fan.
	So I got it.
	BBLs in general.
	So I got it my first time.
	It was the worst surgery I've done for myself.
	And that's why it was horrendous.
	It was horrible.
	And that's why I never ever in my life.
	How old were you when you got it?
	31.
	Okay.
	No, 30.
	And we should do, we should stand up as men and say, we don't like BBLs.
	We need to protect our women.
	Boycott.
	We need to protect our women from these dangerous and unnecessary surgeries.
	And we need to tell them, no, you're beautiful as you are, and also labia plasty.
	I'm very much against labia plasty.
	That's my big one.
	Not a big bad thing.
	But I can't be a little bit.
	Are you a limited ass?
	Is actually a lip bro, like a guy that likes lips.
	I like large labies.
	You like big lips?
	You cannot lie.
	Oh, wait, is that a thing?
	Oh, my God.
	I did not know that.
	It hurts.
	So we can't say that.
	I'm naturally not very lippy, but one of the guys on cam enlightened me because he was like, you have to be boring.
	And I was like, that is the mentality of guys that like big lips is that they think that the not big lips are boring.
	Yeah, and that was like.
	No, no, no.
	No, listen.
	Innies are cool too.
	I like innies.
	Don't get me wrong.
	By the way, hashtag BLM Big Labia Matter.
	That's my nonprofit organization.
	Listen, it's unfortunate because I've definitely encountered a lot of women that feel self-conscious and insecure about their pussy, about their labia.
	And I am, I'm at the forefront of this movement.
	I don't want women chopping up their pussies because I like large.
	But see, this is the thing.
	A lot of men.
	You got the Naudi?
	You got an Audi?
	I got a.
	I have a.
	Now that I lost weight, I have a lab.
	Like, it's hanging down now.
	Yeah.
	But I feel insecure, but I would never ever have a lot of money.
	Husband's a lucky man.
	I would never have a lot of money.
	Husband's a lucky man.
	I would never do anything to buy.
	She doesn't know what it is.
	What the heck is an owl?
	Like a belly button?
	No, no, no, no.
	So the vagina, it's the pussy.
	It's your inner vagina layer.
	So it's the labia.
	Do you want to show her a photo?
	It's not mine.
	I don't know.
	I'm trying to show you.
	Is it the sandwich one?
	I don't know.
	I was just going to go through it.
	Okay, just make sure the camera can't.
	Oh, yeah.
	I have a privacy screen.
	Yeah, you can show it.
	But I totally agree.
	I would never, ever operate on my vagina.
	There are a lot of women do feel insecure about that.
	You know, a lot of men would make a woman like that feel insecure.
	I don't think the solution is wrong.
	It's wrong.
	But that's what men do, you know?
	That's why women get so insecure.
	So I don't think the long-lasting solution to a woman's mental health is immediately cutting stuff off or adding attributes.
	Like if we have such a mental health crisis, and specifically, women who are above the age of 40 abuse antidepressants more than anybody.
	It's horrible.
	So why are we trying to prescribe people changing their bodies, adding things, taking things away?
	Why is there such a focus on instant gratification where maybe you should just accept yourself for the way you are or work on things that you can change?
	So let's go to the gym.
	Maybe we should lose some weight.
	There are things you can do.
	That's right.
	But what about the boo part?
	Like if you're a mom or like the skin part.
	Well, yeah, so what about that?
	What about the skin?
	Like if you if you Google it, like some women like they have like such like saggy skin after pregnancy because they just have really bad skin.
	And it's really hard for women to like, you know, live like that for the rest of her life.
	So I'm not completely opposed to it.
	Okay, so if it's if it's inhibiting it, okay, if we're going to play this thought experiment, so if my wife is having discomfort or it is like a nuisance for this thing, for this extra skin to be there, okay, let's talk about this.
	Maybe there, maybe we can make that change.
	But generally speaking, I am going to want to support my wife.
	I'm going to want to find her attractive no matter what.
	If she has flat chest, if she has very little to offer in those specific areas, I don't really care.
	I know, I do get it.
	I get what you're saying, and I don't agree with plastic surgery, but it is hard to be a woman sometimes.
	Look, how about this?
	How about this?
	But this is such a rare, like, okay, if we grant you, like, you think having the natural is just an option that you can wake up and have.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's the mommy makeovers.
	If we grant you, as men, that we're okay with women after having given birth to children and there's excess stomach fat, if we're fine with that procedure, I think we should make it illegal and ban all the other ones.
	What do you think?
	I do, I agree, because honestly, let's leave the charge.
	I'm a dictator.
	Can I just say what I do not like?
	What I do not like is once women start deforming themselves because these hips are getting out of control.
	Oh, God.
	Like, because of these Kim Kardashians, I'm sorry.
	I really don't like them.
	One thing before you go, one thing before you make it.
	It's just getting ridiculous.
	Like, everyone doesn't even, they don't even look like what the woman is.
	Doesn't actually look like that.
	On the mommy makeover, the excess stomach fat.
	I would say, like, for example, people who are obese, whether you're a man or woman, and if you were previously obese and you lose a bunch of weight, you tend to have excess skin.
	I don't think I would object to whether you're a man or woman, to that procedure.
	So I think the mommy makeover, where if she has excess skin, I don't think I really object to that.
	I think what I more so object to is when you're otherwise cutting into normal, healthy tissue to put in plastic.
	Like again, there's degrees to some of these cosmetic procedures.
	Like perhaps lip filler is not particularly invasive as compared to like a rhinoplasty, as compared to fake tits, as compared to lipo, as compared to BBL.
	So I think the degree, the severity, the reasons, and the oh shit, I've lost the last one.
	The invasiveness is part of it.
	Yeah, and like people get excessive, like people become obsessive.
	Go ahead with your point.
	Well, for like to go back on how you want it to be illegal, my family tried suing the doctors and actually bringing a law to stop procedures over three or four at a time because my mom had seven, I think, at a time.
	That is wrong.
	It's very wrong.
	But there's no laws against that.
	And that's where we need to change that.
	You know, your body just has to happen then.
	Because it's been 18, it was 18 years ago.
	And we did a malpractice suit.
	We did all of that.
	And what people said, hold on.
	With that said, this is why I will not get surgery.
	And I will tell every single woman who wants to get surgery what my mom went through.
	And again, your body, your choice.
	But I lost my goddamn mom when I was 14.
	That is hard.
	And I will never, ever put myself through that.
	Even if I'm uncomfortable with my skin, guess what?
	Deal with it.
	So you know what?
	Deal with it.
	What the big problem is here, I think, and I see this on Instagram all the time because a lot of my girlfriends have, sorry, excessive plastic surgery.
	And when I say excessive, it's not the scale.
	It's attracted.
	It has passed.
	I'm fine with the small upper lip, ladies.
	You don't need to be putting that up.
	You know what the problem is.
	Your lips.
	You know what the problem is?
	The online pressure.
	And when I'm talking pressure, it's got go bigger, go bigger.
	And these are women that maybe don't feel like 100% great about themselves.
	You know what?
	I got a solution.
	I got a solution.
	That's why we as men need to tell women that we find your constitution to not undergo these dangerous and unnecessary situations.
	I wish it was attractive.
	I wish I would say that.
	I wish it would happen.
	I think it's attractive.
	I'm attracted to that.
	I think that happened with a strong constitution.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	President.
	I will literally support you.
	You for fucking president.
	Oh, thank you.
	You for fucking president.
	I'm not Brian Atlas for president.
	You can be my VP.
	Yeah, you for fucking president because I see this constantly.
	And I have friends that have gone up to 10,000 CCs in each boob.
	Do you know how much that is like beyond?
	And I feel like my boobs are too big.
	So I want to decrease.
	Take them out.
	Because I was like, they're uncomfortable or they hurt.
	But it's a lot of money.
	And now I have to pay for my mistake, you know, and that's okay.
	But I just feel like people, guys on the internet, has to stop this fucking, like, oh, I wonder how much she'll do.
	I wonder how far she will go.
	Yeah.
	Instead of saying, stop, don't do it anymore.
	Like, it's too much.
	But they don't.
	And these women are maybe not feeling great about themselves.
	They don't have a partner in the life that supports them and loves them.
	So they trust these men on the internet.
	They're like, oh, they love me.
	So if I do that.
	Have you guys had that experience?
	100%.
	120.
	Yes.
	I have people in my inbox telling me, I will pay you this amount of money if you go bigger, bigger.
	I was like, fuck off.
	No, like, I have guys with me too.
	And I'm like, I don't know.
	Don't listen to me.
	No.
	Don't listen to me.
	It happens very often.
	Very small minority.
	It's psychotic.
	I think both men and women have a duty.
	I think we should both be trying to build each other up because, I mean, look, we both tend to shame each other's bodies in certain ways.
	Like, for example, like the way that men will come.
	I feel like people think I'm almost being facetious about this.
	The way men will shame women if they have a large labia is like, you know, roast beef.
	They think she's, that's an indicator of sexual promiscuity, which actually, no, a woman who's a virgin could have a large labia.
	Yeah, you know, roast beef, RBs, wizard sleeve.
	You hear these terms.
	But also, women will shame men for, you know, if a guy has a small pain, they get shamed for a moment.
	A lot of men get shamed for that.
	So I would like us to listen, I think we should, we can shame people for choices that they make.
	But if there's something out of your control, I don't think you should shame somebody for it.
	If somebody has a certain bodily characteristic, we shouldn't shame.
	If a woman has small breasts, we shouldn't shame her for that.
	Man has a small body.
	That's why a woman has a large labia.
	Because I was bullied to death.
	I wanted to commit suicide because I was bullied so badly in school.
	For no boobs.
	I was very terrible.
	For small boobs.
	Did you have small boobs?
	You had small boobs.
	I always say, I like small boobs.
	The small boobs are great.
	I love them.
	What's up?
	I got a band.
	They're beautiful.
	And I had a bump on my nose from a car accident, and my septum was crooked.
	I've broken those too.
	So I was so bullied up until I had my nose fixed.
	Who bullied you?
	Was it other men, women?
	It was both.
	Both?
	Okay.
	In school, in high school.
	See, I got bullied for my nose too.
	And that's something that I was just like, I'm not.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, then on the internet, on TikTok.
	I had a car riding a bike and I was like, oh, I got nothing.
	It was both.
	It was hell.
	It was really hell.
	So, you know, I just want to say for any women who are watching, there will be a man.
	There are plenty of men who will find you attractive as you are.
	If you're considering getting a plastic surgery, if you're considering lip filler or fake tits or lipo, BBL, whatever, labia plasty, whatever it may be, there are plenty of men that will find you beautiful, that will love you, that will want to be in a relationship with you, that will get married to you without the need for undergoing these surgeries.
	Please women don't shame men either.
	No, but yeah, we shouldn't be shaming everybody.
	Okay.
	All right, let me.
	Oh, the question where this came from was: and I want to wrap up on that, then we have to get into a whole bunch of other things.
	Are you more attractive now, or will you be more attractive in 10 years?
	I think we left off with you.
	I've been in this whole piano worm.
	Yeah, you think you're going to be able to do that?
	You do Abigail.
	So, are you?
	Did you answer the question?
	Are you more physically attractive?
	Did you answer it?
	No, she did not.
	She did.
	Oh, you answered it?
	What about you?
	Are you more physically attractive now, or will you be more physically attractive now?
	Oh, no, in 10 years?
	No.
	No, we're all headed for the same grave.
	Yeah.
	No, it's not going to get better.
	It's going to get worse.
	What about you?
	We just don't know how bad.
	I'm not going to get more attractive in the future, but I am more attractive now than I was in Matvenis.
	I'm 56.
	So, wait, you're more, let's say, are you more attractive now than in my 19th fanny?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Why are you laughing?
	I think I might have another like two years of like my being the like, I guess, more attractive.
	I am going to say, though, when I hit 30 and I started seeing like wrinkles coming in, I was like, okay, it's over.
	So I'm probably, I'm probably gonna, this is definitely the hottest I'll be 10, like in 10 years.
	I'm definitely well, okay, so you're 31, right?
	Yeah.
	Are you more attractive now than you were at 21?
	Oh, yeah, absolutely.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	Y'all coping.
	Y'all cope.
	I get, I mean, I was like a pretty girl.
	I just, for me, on a personal level, like, I was just skinny.
	I mean, I worked out, I was, but I was very just like, like, petite.
	It's like pubescent, right?
	Yeah, like, I feel like right now in my 30s, I hit puberty.
	Yeah.
	And now I have like hips and a butt.
	You know, like, I just, I feel more attractive right now.
	What it is.
	It's not what, it's not whether you feel more attractive.
	No, but you're asking me like far more attractive.
	I mean, the beauty of the eye isn't that good.
	All right.
	So we have, let me, let's go around.
	Let's.
	Oh, here we go.
	Sorry, that this took us a while to get to.
	Mr. Album, to the women trying to use J-Lo as an example of getting better with age, obviously have never seen her earlier works.
	Google image search her from In Living Color, Money Train, and in the film Enough.
	Enough.
	Yeah.
	I just know her music videos.
	I just think she is very pretty regardless.
	Oh my God.
	Did you guys see that movie Hustlers?
	Yes.
	She's like.
	Hustlers.
	Like, let's go back to that.
	No, but JLo was hot, obviously, in her 20s.
	I'm not going to win with these skins.
	No, you're not.
	All right.
	We have a disgruntled care bear question.
	The title about Brokeman caught my eye, so I'd like to pose the question: Define a broke man for reference.
	In the army where I don't get paid a lot cash-wise.
	Thank you.
	But you have money later on.
	Like, you're going to get that money check after you're out.
	We already know that.
	Okay.
	Like, we know that.
	I'm going to just give her a little love.
	If you put on that army outfit, you can be as broke as you want.
	See, and that's that's Monica for you.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	There you go.
	No, but what defines a broke man is not necessarily financials either.
	It can be someone who has broke mentality.
	Like my ex had broke mentality.
	So it's not always just being financially broke.
	It's the fact that you don't want to work.
	You're putting in your bare minimum, even in a relationship, even in your own hygiene.
	That's what a broke man is to me because it could be broken or broke.
	And I feel like both go hand in hand.
	I agree.
	Bro, fucking.
	Oh my God, Nick.
	I did that on purpose, dude.
	What?
	What?
	So a broke man isn't just broke because of finances.
	A broke man is also like a mindset, like a poor person mindset.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Your actions.
	Yeah.
	Here, we got some notes here.
	We got more notes.
	I think we wait.
	Did we get everything from?
	Hold on.
	Let me check.
	and say uh what I'm trying not to have a wardrobe malfunction right now, but the stress is just riding up and I'm trying to calmly make it better.
	Words.
	I just saw on the screen you got legs.
	No, I just think like being broke.
	You're wearing underwear.
	I am.
	I have standards of existence.
	I was like, oh, fuck.
	Are we going to have like a whole fancy flash?
	No, not like that.
	It's written more for my own.
	Yeah.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	That would have gotten.
	We have some notes here from Kendra.
	Kendra, adult film star, ex-worker, business consultant.
	You said you were with your fiancé for four years, and three years in, we both realized you had F'd his good friend 10 years prior.
	Oh my God.
	What's the story there?
	Was that an issue also for the relationship?
	It definitely became an issue because going into it, he was already worried that I had been with his friends.
	A little bit of a backstory.
	He's an entertainer, but not in the sex industry.
	He's an actor, actor, director, filmographer, all that, cinematographer.
	Sorry.
	So I, my clientele, like whether it's BDSM or content creation, they can be his friends.
	And one day my friend was over and she was talking about wrestling.
	And he was like, oh, my friend X.
	I was like, what's his last name?
	And he said it, and my head just fell.
	And then he looked at me.
	He's like, you fucked him, didn't you?
	I was like, I was fucking him for a good two years, honey.
	But why would you make it obvious?
	I would just keep my mouth closed.
	Because I was with him.
	No, I was about to have a ring on my finger.
	I was not going to lie to this man.
	I'm not going to lie to him.
	If he was going to invite him to our wedding, and then he shows up, I'm like, I guess, I guess.
	Like his bachelor party.
	I mean, he's going to find out eventually.
	So why lie?
	There's no reason to lie.
	From the beginning of our relationship, I had no reason to lie to him.
	So when he found out, he didn't talk to me for a few days, but he, you know, at the end of the day, I didn't know him for 10 years prior.
	What are you going to do?
	Be mad at me for something I did 10 years ago?
	I had no, you were married at the time, homie.
	You were with another woman.
	So, yeah, I fucked a lot of his friends.
	I don't know if guys, like, feel that's a bro code, you know, it's hard to have a bro code when it's like, yeah, I mean, when it happened such a long time ago, I don't know how you feel about it as a guy.
	It's not my proud moment.
	Like, if I could go back, I wouldn't have done it, but I didn't know.
	I mean, of course, I haven't been in that situation.
	Yeah, but if you would.
	Have you been in it with like just kind of having a crush on the same girl as one of your friends or kind of like going for the same girl?
	I would never, ever, ever date somebody that my friend has dated.
	Yeah.
	Like, that's just a matter of time.
	And that's another thing.
	No.
	You kind of didn't.
	Yeah, that's a thing.
	Oh, gosh.
	Like, at that point, how much friends am I with this guy?
	Yeah, that's what I said to him because he made it seem such a big deal.
	And all these men that he's talking about talk down to him, make fun of him.
	Oh, I fucked your face.
	Yeah, I think that that's what it is.
	It's more of like them knowing that they know what you look like underneath while having sex.
	And it was already like he wasn't, it's not that he wasn't supportive.
	He just didn't know how to fully comprehend my job.
	So that was already a thing.
	I think that for men, it's really hard for them to even think about us having sex in general with any past partners.
	Unless you're someone's into that.
	Yeah.
	Okay, unless that, okay, unless that's the case.
	But when they know that person.
	Wait, what was that?
	Unless they know that person, then it's like, now it's like very vivid and they're like thinking about like you and them together.
	Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
	With the women I've dated, I'm extremely, like with my wife, eventually, I'm going to be extremely territorial.
	So that's why he was so upset.
	Yeah, which I understand.
	Well, it's like I can imagining my woman with another man is just awful.
	So like I can understand the aspect of like, I know this other guy, and now I have to imagine him with you every time that we're potentially going to have sex or that we're going to be together.
	That's like, for me, I just, it's super hard to get out of my mind.
	And as like, I think most really masculine men, hyper-masculine men, that's just kind of the case.
	Yeah.
	They don't want to share their woman with anybody.
	Yeah.
	And he had, his friend had a history of fucking everyone else's wife.
	So like, he's that guy.
	So, yeah, so my ex was like, dude, you fell for his shit too?
	Like, kind of, like, what's wrong with you?
	And I was like, I was fucking 19 and I was desperate.
	Like, that's really what it was.
	I have a totally unrelated question to this.
	Yes.
	You have a 13 tattoo on your hand.
	Oh, my God, please.
	What's that?
	Friday the 13th, you get tattoos for $13.
	What?
	No.
	Yeah, so there's one right here.
	It has the Roman numerals right here.
	I was thinking it was.
	No, it's not.
	I thought that was a good idea.
	Did you get part of the game?
	Yeah, it says KM for my best friend and then S and then 13.
	So people thought I was in a gang called MS-13.
	When I went to jail, everyone gave me one job.
	Once again, my mom died when I was 14.
	You think I don't have trauma and I didn't do shit?
	Yeah, I went to jail.
	Everyone's path is different.
	Everyone's path is different.
	I did not go to prison.
	Not this.
	Tell us about, did you do any dating in jail?
	How was that?
	Every woman wanted to grab my tits.
	What the fuck?
	I wonder.
	Not like it's like that in real life.
	You've been to jail more than once?
	I grew up on.
	Yeah.
	The amount of days I've done total in my whole life was like 100.
	I got a DUI, so I did 50 days straight, and then I probation violated, which I had my ex's prescription on me, not in my name, 30 days.
	I see.
	Okay.
	So if you, you know, when I tell it, it's like, oh, you wish it was harder.
	I do.
	Usually I do.
	I wish it was harder.
	Okay, all right.
	I want to earn my credit.
	We have actually a couple of your tweets that we found.
	Oh, wow.
	I'm off the charts before I was diagnosed right now.
	Diagnosed with what?
	BPD.
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure.
	We're going to pull them up.
	We're going to pull them up.
	There's a cup.
	I think there's just five.
	So go ahead, Nick.
	What do we got here?
	Nick, can you make it a little bigger, please?
	Little uh binger.
	Kendra Lee, who in the actual fuck is this person?
	Do they realize they're openly saying I'm a virgin and I'm refused to miss or I am repulsive, but I'm trying to get beta ducks to like me.
	Fuck.
	Thank God for Drew.
	I'm not on her side anymore, by the way.
	I don't like it.
	She made a hit piece on us.
	Sort of.
	Keeping that, she talked shit.
	Keep her us women reminded men like you are balding and alone.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	You went in on the balding thing.
	Next tab, though.
	What's the next one?
	Wait, did you just double twice?
	What happened then?
	Oh, I think it just got bigger.
	Got back.
	Wait.
	That's what she said.
	Can you go forward, Nick?
	Next tab?
	It's me, Michael.
	Doesn't matter if you're skinny, men use the term fat to bring down any woman because it's an insult to them once we stop letting the word fat come off it.
	So negatively, they can't use it against us.
	But hold on, you just talked about balding.
	Oh, yeah.
	Why not?
	You're going to attack me for being fat.
	I'm going to attack your hairline.
	Well, was that what happened?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was being attacked in that thread.
	Holly was there.
	Yeah, so she was getting attacked in the thread, and then everyone made it a weight topic.
	And then it just kind of digressed from.
	So if you're going to come, I don't ever fire first.
	If you fire at me, I'm going to verbally hurt the crap out of you.
	I didn't know that that was.
	That's a part of the problem we have with plastic surgery.
	Like, if this the whole time, you know, then it's a game that started after all that happened.
	Okay, all right.
	Next.
	That's so crazy.
	I have sex with men for money and I get all my.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm a porn star.
	I have sex with men for money and I get all my bills paid for me and my life partner, including a beautiful home and cars.
	Sucks.
	They lost everything.
	She should F someone richer like I did.
	Wait, but when you say you have sex with men for money, are you talking about daddy?
	I'm a porn star.
	No, but you also did say you had sugar daddy, so maybe that's what I was talking about.
	Oh, yeah, we could talk about sugar daddy.
	I mean, yeah, they did buy my car, or he bought my car.
	All right.
	Wait, somebody, you had a sugar daddy buy you a car?
	Wait, okay.
	Let's, well, we'll come.
	There's two more tweets.
	We'll come back to those.
	Who here has had a sugar daddy?
	I'll just yes or no, don't tell me.
	Me, yes.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	He should say yes.
	Oh, my God.
	You telling the cheek?
	I heard.
	No?
	Huh?
	What?
	You too?
	No?
	You're not his daddy.
	Wait, why would you assume that I had one?
	Why are we assuming that?
	No, because you paused a little bit, so I was like, I'd be a lot richer if I did.
	Okay, so sugar daddies, how many sugar daddies have you had?
	I've been honestly, it's like a lifestyle thing.
	I had my first sugar daddy at like 18 years old, and then I've kind of like sporadically on and off since then.
	Like, obviously, not during relationships.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So.
	And I've had some, and honestly, my eight-year-long relationship, like part of the spice on this relationship is he was 21 years older than me and taking care of me.
	So in a lot of ways, that was a it's kind of started out like that and then it kind of just like oh we're staying together and we're bonding more right or whatever you want to call it right but it kind of my Eight-year-long relationship should have just been a sugar daddy.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Would that be considered a sugar daddy if he was your actual like partner?
	That's kind of why I don't consider him a sugar daddy because it was like, it's not like, hey, if I don't get money today for hanging out with you, it's yeah, because I feel like it's more like that.
	It wasn't transactional.
	It started that way, though.
	It started.
	So this is how it happened.
	So like he bought me a designer purse like the day after he met me, which was like a super grooming move.
	But I was young and didn't know that it was a grooming move, right?
	And I was like, oh my God, I've never had a guy buy me a designer handbag before.
	And then why is that grooming?
	No, because the way he did it was just kind of like, hey, I'm about to abuse the fuck out of you for the next like eight years.
	It was very difficult.
	But if you're going to remember this moment as something that you want to happen against, you know what I mean?
	Wait, hold on.
	You dated this man for eight years.
	How early into the relationship did you detect that he was abusive?
	I detected and we had this.
	Or not detected.
	He was abusive.
	We had this crazy fight that I was like, this was disproportionate to the situation two weeks in.
	But again, I'd, I, I also, my parents aren't abusive to each other.
	So for me, it was really kind of like, oh my God, I've never seen someone yell at someone like that before.
	And then in my mind, he would like me like, you're literally going to end up fucking on the streets if you don't fucking learn how to fucking deal with this, you stupid bitch.
	Like that kind of thing.
	Oh my God.
	He once came after me.
	I've heard it right here.
	So very good.
	And he has a bird squawking voice.
	So he's a bird squawking.
	Girls?
	Oh my God.
	Damn.
	No.
	You heard it too.
	Oh, my God.
	This man ran tears with all of our lives.
	You were with him.
	We ate this man.
	He has that man come out as gay.
	I don't know what.
	It's like you're either asexual or there's something weird because you just like abusing people and he probably gets off more on stealing money from old ladies than he does from actually having sex.
	He's very flamboyant.
	Yeah.
	He's got insanity.
	You've never met anybody like this.
	Most people haven't met people like this.
	But yeah.
	So two weeks in this one.
	Two weeks in.
	And then I remembered having this critical moment in my head where it's like, that wasn't right.
	That was weird.
	And then I talked to him thinking, okay, well, we should just, we should communicate about this, right?
	And I was like, hey, do you realize that like this, what you said was like completely disproportionate to this?
	It's too long to describe the story, but it was completely disproportionate.
	And he was like, oh, well, if you hadn't like basically like left the house like this at this time, then it wouldn't have turned into a fight.
	And I honestly just believed him because I'd never been yelled at.
	And I was like, wow, the only way that someone would hate me that much to talk to me like that would must be if I'm that bad.
	He was very abusive.
	Yeah.
	And I, and I didn't grow up with like a narcissistic family, so I didn't like recognize the signs.
	You know what I mean?
	Like I was like, wow, I need this guy.
	Like he's helping me.
	Like, it's just really, it's really fucked up when people do.
	And then you stayed with him for eight years.
	I wanted to leave after three, but he completely financially enmeshed himself in my life and made it extremely hard to leave.
	So even though we weren't married, breaking up required a divorce.
	And that was part of the plan.
	Financial divorce.
	Yeah, that was part of the plan.
	And this is something that doesn't get talked about.
	I'm actually like writing a book about this.
	But, like, this is something that happens, this unspoken financial abuse that becomes a way of kind of, like...
	How...
	Wait, how so?
	Um...
	Um, people will just, you know, trap you with debt.
	They'll trap you with assets.
	They'll, you know, they'll, if you try to break up with people, they'll follow into the court system to try to create new ways to get in contact with you when they've exhausted all of the normal ones.
	You know what I mean?
	And this is actually something that the court system's aware of, too.
	Yeah.
	The court system is super aware of it.
	Yeah.
	So it's, but it's just not getting talked about a lot because it's a very ambiguous thing, right?
	So, but wasn't he, you said he was like 20 years your senior.
	Was he successful?
	Did he make good money?
	He was a, he was an investment banker.
	So, it's one of those things where it's like when they get money, they get a lot of money, but they can also lose it like that.
	And they live very chaotic lives.
	So, you could literally have $10 million one day and zero dollars the next day.
	Like, so it's kind of like a false sense.
	It's money, but not wealth.
	Yeah.
	You mentioned, so did you have debts?
	Yeah.
	So, that was a thing that he did.
	So, he gave me the story of like, hey, we're going to, I'm going to get you a credit card and I'm going to pay it every month, right?
	And we're going to build your credit.
	Sounds great, right?
	And so, we do that.
	And he's paying everything's going according to plan.
	And then one day we have a fight and it's like, okay, well, you can go pay that on your own.
	Then, it's like, well, you've been racking up a bill on this too, right?
	Because it wasn't just me being like, yay, I'm going shopping.
	It was like, this card is like groceries, gas.
	Like, it's our life card, right?
	And so I was sold the story, like, I'm going to build your credit.
	Everything's going to be fine.
	And then the day that they need that to be a tool for them, then they're like, you know what?
	Maybe you should just go pay this $50,000 of debt that I racked up that I assured you would be.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like not all your own.
	But he wasn't paying the statement balance.
	No, he did.
	So he would wait until the very last moment to do before it affected my, you know, before it affected my credit report to pay it.
	But then like within days back up before I could make a decision to like run.
	You know what I mean?
	And so he kept me in this kind of confused state of like being fearful of my financial situation legitimately, right?
	You know what I mean?
	And then also trying to myself feel like I had to make a shit ton of money to cover his antics and then being like, how do I leave?
	Because if I leave, basically I have to leave with $100,000 worth of debt.
	And by the way, I eventually had to make that choice and did leave with $100,000 worth of debt because I was never stop unless I fucking just left, right?
	But that, but then you realize, wow, I could have done this three years earlier if I was going to get fucked the entire time.
	Wait, so were you both using this particular credit card?
	Yes, but it wasn't supposed, he wasn't supposed to be, it wasn't supposed to be being used the way it was, right?
	Like I was being told, okay, this is for like stuff that we actually like is like necessary.
	And then I go in the card and it's like, like, and he was like buying, it wasn't even just shopping.
	It was like bad decisions he was making on behalf of the business that we started together.
	It was just like so much shit.
	But at the end of the day, I was holding the bag with his credit card.
	You know what I mean?
	That's kind of what it, yeah.
	But where were, okay, so I have a question.
	How old were you again?
	You were when you were, I was like 19.
	Okay, and you said you have like, you have your family with me.
	My mom and dad actually, so my mom and dad, when I met him, did a very overbearing parent thing and they like ran a background check on him and got a private investigator and basically presented the paperwork and like this guy's really fucking bad.
	Wait, how early on did that occur?
	Like I want like a couple weeks, no, a couple months.
	Wait, what did the background check uncover?
	What?
	What did it?
	Because they said he just seemed to be shady.
	He seemed to be a ghost on paper and that he didn't seem to have a stable job.
	There were just a lot of things that were like, this is an elusive individual who doesn't seem to come from anywhere.
	And you continue dating him.
	Because I was super young and in my mind, I'm like, well, maybe he's just like some like amazing rich guy.
	And my dad and mom aren't rich like he seems to be, which by the way, he wasn't actually as rich as he seemed to be, but I was too young to even know what people do like that.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm like, when you're 19, you have no idea how fucking money works.
	He was the Tindler swim, Tinder Swindler, basically.
	Yeah, he's like the Tinder swindler, but he did sell me the first two years like really top shelf life, right?
	Like it was like spying the shit out of me.
	Oh, you spoiled the shit.
	Because shit out of me to make me like kind of be like, hey, I know I'm abusing you and you're crying every day.
	And I like, don't let you see your parents.
	But like, you're okay.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, like, so, and I tell you lines to tell your parents about how we're doing for when you go see them so you don't talk about it on your own.
	Yeah.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	Early on in the conversation, sounds like a lot of work.
	Yeah.
	You were, you guys were saying how Typically in Orange County, people, their parents aren't very present in their lives.
	They might be together.
	Yeah.
	So I guess in your situation, this happened after college.
	I was already kind of like, I'm deciding to do this.
	My mom and dad are trying to honestly just be parents, right?
	Like they were trying to do that.
	No, but he wants to know.
	No, no, no.
	Like growing up.
	I didn't like that.
	Oh, growing up, did you not have parents?
	Growing up, did you not like that?
	No, my mom and dad were up my ass growing up.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They were up my ass growing up.
	My brother's like an Eagle Scout type guy.
	You know what I mean?
	And I was just sneaking out at night after they went to sleep.
	Yeah.
	Like, oh, I want a party.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, yeah.
	Yeah, I've had a lot of people.
	And then with mom and dad, I'm okay.
	And nothing bad's happening to me.
	I think there is a epidemic of one of two situations.
	It's either your parents don't care about what you do and they're just like, as long as you're not dead at the end of the day, I don't care.
	But there's also this other totally opposite end of the spectrum where they dictate everything that you do.
	They're helicopters.
	So helicopter parents are, in other ways, extremely unhealthy because they're essentially prolonging your childhood.
	Yes.
	So instead of treating you like an adult, when like you turn 13, 14, like you start getting extra responsibilities, but you also get extra freedoms.
	Instead of training you into the woman you should become, they're like, I'm going to still treat you like the six-year-old daughter I had at one point.
	Yeah.
	And I will never let you go.
	So I definitely, I think that's just as damaging as somebody who's like, I don't care about my kids, whatever.
	They're really just parents that decided to get pregnant one day and are honestly figuring it out.
	And they are a perfect example that you can, my mom and dad went to every parenting class.
	Like they like honestly, like it's a little like when I hear them talk about how much into parenting they got, it's a little bit, oh my God, crap, like shut the fuck up.
	But it just goes to show you, like, you can't control what your kid does.
	Like, your kids can grow up and become whoever they're going to be.
	And you can pro you can honestly do your best, but like factors are still going to happen.
	Did your parents and you have conversations throughout your childhood about, you know, because I mean, I'm coming from as a mother and, you know, I was a single mother until I got married.
	And I do talk to my daughter about, you know, sex and how to take care of herself.
	I don't drink.
	So like I kind of want to teach her that that's actually not good for you.
	Oh, Lord.
	So, anyway, so I think that it just had to happen when I was talking, right?
	All right, anyway.
	Sorry, we're laughing at this.
	I know.
	This baby.
	This introduction, yeah.
	No, I want to know.
	They talk to me a lot about it.
	I think, are you asking, did they have those talks?
	Yeah, did they have like the talk?
	Because you know, the thing is, what I, what I, because I'm, I'm seeing it from like a lot of, um, you know, every generation of parents are changing, and we're kind of learning from like our like parents and our grandparents and like stuff like that.
	I feel like I feel like now I'm starting to understand that you do have to monitor your kids.
	Like freedom is okay, but like you do have to monitor them very well because children will make bad decisions, especially when they're surrounded by like other kids that aren't being monitored.
	So you do have to monitor their friends.
	Also, like I understand like where you grew up, like, you know, I, the communities that have like are wealthier, like parents are very absent.
	So like, I know me, for example, I don't, my daughter doesn't go to like a super wealthy area, but I do look at the parents.
	And when I see that a parent is absent, my daughter's not allowed to hang out with that person.
	So my mom had a list of friends I wasn't allowed to hang out with too.
	But it's still, it's just like you can't sound literally every single high school too long on that.
	Yeah, it's, it's not, I don't want to let's go back to the sugar daddy situation.
	Yeah.
	So, you have any, you know, you've got some sugar daddies currently?
	You got some I do.
	All right.
	And, like, I'm curious, maybe to keep things a bit more light for both of you.
	Let's talk about the money when it comes to sugar daddies.
	What are we talking here?
	I don't really like hang out.
	Like, I don't entertain.
	Like, allowances.
	Yeah, like it's like allowances and allowances plus gifts.
	And it's kind of like, I mean, I want to say it's $10,000 a month, but sometimes it's from just one.
	Yeah.
	$10,000 a month.
	That's the buy-in.
	Spend that much time.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	To get your attention.
	I mean, otherwise I have a job.
	I can just do my job, right?
	Yeah, and I'm at a point where I have.
	No, honestly, like, for me, it's not.
	Well, I'm at a point now where, ironically, my dudes are not simps.
	Go ahead.
	No, they're, come on.
	Wait, can you guys tell me what that means?
	I don't know what that means.
	Well, a simp is someone who basically doesn't care anything except how much they love you, and they'll give you every dime that they have, and they'll just give you every compliment, everything.
	You're their God.
	Okay.
	But I lost my train of thought.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sugar daddies.
	So me at this point, and I know no one's going to believe this.
	I don't give sugar anymore.
	I have money sent to me.
	You know this.
	My New York guys.
	They don't send me.
	One guy's in a relationship now, and that's totally fine.
	He sends me money every month.
	Same with a guy in New York.
	They send me money whenever I text.
	Same with a couple other people.
	I don't have to give sugar anymore.
	It's gotten to that point.
	I've been doing this for 14 years also.
	Technically.
	So they're pay pigs?
	They're not pigs.
	Pay pigs.
	They're not pay pigs because we had a relationship before.
	We ended it.
	So because I've built that connection with them over so many years, they care about me.
	They know what I've had happen to me.
	We've hung out without money exchange because I genuinely like them.
	I was dating them.
	How much do they pay you?
	How much do they pay for?
	I don't like to disclose that.
	It's a really good amount.
	Range.
	Give us a range.
	No.
	A couple thousand a month.
	I make over six figures a year without having to lift a finger.
	Just that or for me?
	Without having to lift a finger.
	Six figures a month.
	A year.
	Six figures a month.
	One job.
	Without having.
	No.
	Just off that.
	Just off the sugar daddy.
	Just sugar daddies.
	But there's no sugar.
	Six figures a year.
	Wow.
	Go have life on easy mode.
	Life on easy mode.
	That's insane.
	You put in enough work.
	You don't have to give the sugar anymore.
	That's insane.
	Wow.
	Bro, these simps.
	Holy fuck, bro.
	At a new level.
	Wait, say it again.
	Six figures a year without having to lift a finger.
	I mean, there's a lot of people.
	I blame the men, dude.
	I blame the men.
	No, honestly, but think about it.
	Imagine a billionaire guy who has women literally throwing themselves at him, pretending that they're getting pregnant all the time to try to nail him down.
	He is paying for the convention.
	Hey, these are the terms, right?
	You know what I mean?
	I don't want you to be confused about what this relationship is.
	I like you, but I don't love you.
	But I do want you to be okay, and I don't want your time to be wasted.
	So hang out with me.
	I'll make sure you're okay and not just getting used.
	And different people want different.
	But she says she doesn't lift a finger.
	These are just.
	Well, I do your special ones.
	No, I have.
	I have lifted figures.
	I've lifted more than fingers.
	No, but you're saying, sure.
	And we could definitely talk about the past experiences.
	But you say currently you're making six figures a year without having to really do anything.
	Yeah, just give it, give a check-in, you know, maybe send a photo, not even a nude, just thinking of you, look at how I look.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	I mean, can I say like a quick funny story?
	I had a tenant and she found her husband's phone and she found out that he was sending money to a woman in DR. And when we, so she was like, can you call?
	She was like, she like called me.
	She was like crying.
	She's like, please call this number.
	I'm shaking.
	When I called, it was a man.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	So like, Course, it was a scammer, but men are so willing to buy the story and pay for it, and it's crazy.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, because I mean, guys, it's not a surprise because now guys have AI girlfriends as well.
	Like, they pay for that.
	They take them on with dates with them.
	It's not a surprise.
	I'm not surprised.
	Granted, no one's saying that everyone should go do that.
	We don't necessarily know.
	No, no, everyone's cut from the same cloth.
	They can't handle it.
	And it's fine.
	Like, I've come to terms with I will probably be single the rest of my life, just like my grandmother.
	She's been single for 45 years.
	She's happy.
	Oh, me me.
	Cool.
	It's just like these men spending all this money.
	I don't get it at all.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Me no.
	I don't either.
	I don't think even the women that do that, like do those things even understand it.
	And they're like in relationship with those men.
	I don't think anybody can understand that.
	No, unless you're in it, you know.
	And it's fine.
	You know, I'm not talking for everyone.
	I'm just saying for me, what works for me works for me.
	I don't give a fuck.
	No, I'm saying you understand them why they would spend so much money just because I've heard the stories that they're going through.
	And you know, there's some men whose women whose wives, they're not even there emotionally or physically.
	They're just there and they don't want to leave and they both don't want to leave.
	So they just want compassion.
	And it's, yes, it's fucking sad.
	It makes my heart break.
	I don't want to see a man.
	Yes, a man's being an emasculated man because of his wife of 20, 30 years.
	That's fucking sad.
	Leave.
	Go make yourself happy.
	Don't do what you're doing.
	And I'm not saying I don't support them either because obviously they're paying my bills.
	In the same sentence, it's just not fair to the other woman.
	It's not.
	I've actually heard this so many times.
	So do you think maybe you're like they're lonely and even sometimes, if they're been, they've been married for a long time.
	Even in that relationship it's you know they they feel lonely and do you think maybe that you're enabling them to continue?
	This underscore, massive underscore truck donated $100 chat, wants to hear the Euro girl talk.
	There's two.
	I think it's not because she really, I think it's you.
	What you got for us.
	Give us a hot drop, a hot top.
	I never had a sugar daddy.
	I mean, if I would be single, I'm not against it.
	There we go like, okay okay, what would be your goal if you had a sugar daddy?
	What's your ultimate goal?
	Like a car, a house?
	What would it be?
	I would say the like long-term relationship.
	If it makes sense yeah, okay.
	So you want to turn into an actual relationship?
	Yeah like, not relationship with the future.
	I mean, in my mind, sugar daddy is the person who like, gives you, gives you like the terms like, for example, you're just like a lover, or like he will never get married, and he just give you, gives you like the terms that like, hey, I will give you like allowance, or I will provide you with that, that And that, but we will never like get married and stuff.
	So, I think if I would be lonely, I would be fine.
	Yeah.
	I'm just wondering, where are all the women who want a dude to be the sugar baby?
	I guess.
	I just had that for two years.
	I'm good.
	Thank you.
	Like, go find yourself.
	And I also tried helping him find a sugar mama.
	That's how I worked for his F. Wow.
	Yes.
	I'm like, if you're going to cheat, go cheat and get money off of it, Mother Brook.
	But he didn't.
	He's like, one of the women offered me a car.
	I said, why the fuck did you not take that car, you idiot?
	Oh, yeah, why not?
	I told him.
	I was like, my car's fucked up.
	Why don't you get another car for us?
	I can tell you.
	I want to extend my services.
	I will, if any women out there want to send me thousands of dollars a month.
	Let's get your seeking out there.
	There are some guys who probably will.
	I'm okay on the game.
	Just send some photos.
	That's fine.
	I have a thing about that.
	About sugar.
	Do you mind?
	No.
	Oh, I misread that.
	You got to excite it.
	What it is, is like, for example, when I met my husband, he was a musician.
	So he didn't make a lot of money.
	I wasn't complaining about that.
	And I wasn't making a lot of money either, but I was making more.
	But I am fine.
	I don't care where the money comes from if you're in a relationship and you like each other.
	Like, personally, for me, yeah, would it be easier to have somebody taking care of me?
	Yes.
	But I'm Polish, so my mom has always taught me that you should never ask for anybody else's money because it's not your money.
	You have not earned that money.
	You have no right to that money.
	So always make your own money as a woman because you should never rely on anybody in a relationship to take care of you.
	Because what happens when he leaves?
	You'll be there with nothing.
	But what happens when you're in an abusive relationship?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And that's why I kind of liked that I was the breadwinner because I was like, I don't mind my guy not, you know, being super rich.
	Would it make my life easier?
	Yes, but it comes with terms that I'm not prepared to accept.
	But that's where the independent culture kind of came in because we were seeing how a lot of during the traditional times women couldn't go to work.
	But that's where it stemmed from, and that's why we're like hyper-independent right now.
	So there has to be like some sort of balance.
	And I think that there's like a difference between a traditional man and a provider mindset.
	Man, yeah, yeah.
	Let's go back to the tweets.
	We got some more tweets here from our friend Kendra.
	You got some tweets.
	So you're delivering Kendra.
	I'm not exploited.
	I'm not trafficked by men.
	I actually get paid to beat men up, take their money, and remind them how worthless they are.
	I don't cater to men, they cater to me.
	And if you are an S worker, you know that.
	Hold on.
	You get paid to beat men up and take their money and remind them how worthless they are.
	What's going on there?
	I was on another really big YouTube channel about this, actually.
	About my domination.
	Like, I have, sorry.
	Is it FinDom?
	Is that what it's called?
	I mean, you could put that in my category, but I'm more of a domestic terrorist.
	Depending on what we're talking about.
	I'm a domesticated mistress, meaning I like my domesticated subs or slaves.
	So I want them to clean my house, walk my dogs, do my errands, take my car out for a wash.
	And you don't have sex with him, correct?
	Oh, God, no, they're pathetic.
	Where are the women that will do all this shit for me?
	An escort, go find her.
	No, no, no, but I don't, but they're paying you.
	But he wants to get paid.
	I want to get paid.
	You can be an escort.
	I want just swaths of women who want to pay me to give them the privilege.
	Pet life.
	I will give them the privilege of cleaning my toilet.
	Yeah, I'm sure there's a 19-year-old woman waiting just for that scene.
	I've got to get a lot of those.
	Yeah, I know.
	I highly doubt.
	No, look at that.
	You just said it.
	You just said it.
	You said that there's a lot of 19 to 20 year old women that are ready to date older men because they're more mature and they have a better mindset.
	No, no, to date, I'm saying, like, you have no romantic or sexual interest in these men.
	No.
	God, no.
	Right.
	This is when my mom would say, hombres as gustan la mara vidad les gustan sofurid.
	Which is basically saying, like, just men, there's some men that like to suffer.
	Yeah, like, oh, shit.
	Okay.
	What's it?
	Facts.
	They're masochists and sadness.
	And it's really a state masochist.
	And it's a really sad thing.
	Like, I mean, personally, for me, like, where, where are they, like, mentally?
	Like, this is really sad.
	But I mean, I do know one of.
	So one of my sugar daddies, who is also a sub of mine, he had an upbringing with an older woman who abused him, but she abused him domination-wise.
	So that's why he comes from that fetish because he feels like he can somehow get the power back, even though he's submitting.
	It's don't ask.
	Don't ask if you're a sub or you're in the industry.
	You already know what I mean by this.
	To Jenna.
	It is.
	It's like where do you get?
	I think boredom also.
	I think if you boredom.
	No, I'm telling you why.
	So I have a guy.
	I can't say his name on here because like I grew up with him.
	So we grew up together.
	We grew up together.
	And this kid is from like a very wealthy family.
	And we're the same age.
	It's not like a weird sugar baby thing.
	It's just like I know him.
	Tanya.
	And I didn't like originally in school.
	I didn't take him for being a sub, but now that we've gotten older and like got back in touch, he's like, oh my God, I like want you to like yell at me and I want you to like do all this like degrading stuff to him.
	And I really didn't like take him as that kind of guy.
	But I can tell you this guy has probably only yes men around him.
	Yeah.
	And his life is probably very one-noted and kind of like, good idea, sir.
	That sounds great, sir.
	And he's like zero variety from that.
	And I think that sometimes these rabbit holes are like, wow, that's the one thing in my life that I don't have.
	I mean, I have heard of these people.
	I mean, Jordan Belford was open with a and he liked both, though.
	Like, and a lot of the times it's not like they just like one, right?
	They're like, hey, I'm having a day where I want to feel this way.
	Hey, I'm having a day where I want to be with my wife, right?
	Like, it's like your next, like.
	I was going to say, like, maybe just get a Latina.
	Like, how you guys have a Latino woman?
	Oh, yeah, because the Latinas are spicy.
	They're good to you.
	Oh, the bowing video.
	Hold on.
	No, Gentlemen, get yourself an Asian woman.
	Yes.
	Oh, God, I'm going to get canceled.
	Okay.
	I don't know about Latinas, Latinas, or spicy.
	Yeah.
	Damn.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sure.
	Let's do the bowing.
	Let's watch the bowing video.
	If you can scroll it a little bigger, Nick.
	Yeah, switch us over to the other side.
	Yep.
	I like that it says register and download.
	Boom.
	Look at that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Look at this.
	Boom.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	Wait, watch.
	Watch.
	Watch.
	Look, she's attentive.
	Oh, there's a shirt.
	Yep.
	Fold it.
	Good.
	Well done.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Oh, go into the kitchen.
	Look at that.
	Oh, food's ready.
	That's just ready to go.
	Boom.
	Look at the attentiveness.
	Look at the.
	Oh, okay.
	And it's just a little bit of a drink.
	Oh, I've seen your scroll.
	They just did this for the video.
	Yeah, it's obviously doing it.
	Like, she's not doing this every day for her man.
	I literally did that for my ex.
	I want to bow.
	Look, boom, look at the bow.
	That's down to bow.
	I'm down for the bow.
	I literally did that for my eyes.
	Go ahead, Carla.
	Go ahead.
	The thing is, when you, okay, this is going to be super controversial, but the thing is, like, men, you think that you want that, and like, oh, yeah.
	You think that you want it.
	Oh, it's not that I think, it's that I know.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, I want.
	I know.
	Wait, so it happens.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead, Carla.
	Go ahead.
	But y'all get so bored.
	Yeah, you can get no.
	I love boring.
	You get no, you think you love boring.
	You think you love boring.
	Listen, listen.
	I'm not going to be gaslit here, Carl.
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to go.
	Very convincing.
	I'm going to become a wife.
	I will not be gaslit.
	You guys can agree with me.
	So, my, so I give that because I love, okay, I naturally love doing that for my man.
	Like, he comes home, the food's ready.
	No, not the bowel.
	Try the bowels.
	No, no, no.
	You give him a bow.
	Try the bow.
	You'll be like, what are you doing?
	No, I like the bowel.
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	He's coming.
	Your husband's coming soon.
	He's coming.
	Yeah, he's coming.
	He's coming.
	He's coming.
	So I like to serve my man.
	Like, you can ask him.
	I never let him get up.
	Like, I'm the one serving him because I like doing that.
	Try the best.
	But there are times, there are times.
	There are times where, like, well, what do you want to do today?
	Well, do you not have anything planned today?
	The moment that I don't have anything planned, like either doing chores, going out to the grit, getting groceries, doing things, he's like, but what else is there to do?
	So it's like, there has to be a type of balance.
	And obviously, this is just like my personal experience.
	But again, like, you think you want that, but sometimes there's just things that you get bored, and then you, there's times that it happens where like men cheat and you don't want that to happen.
	So it's like us as, well, like as me as a wife, I'm just like, okay, how do I keep the balance?
	Because boredom is like an actual thing from that.
	You think you want that, but you really don't.
	So what are you suggesting?
	Hold on.
	What are you suggesting?
	Are you suggesting that you intentionally stir up drama in the relationship?
	Is that what you're saying?
	It's more of like when you do it, not because it's a chore, but you do it because you love that person and you want to just serve him.
	Because I do, I out of experience myself too.
	Like there has been moments where like I just went once as soon as I got married, I just wanted to play that role wife and I turned into a maid and I have a business.
	So like, and my daughter does dance.
	So like my, I was going crazy.
	And it started to get to a point where it wasn't even appreciated anymore because it was like already done.
	I will always appreciate it.
	It was solid.
	No, but you get used to it.
	If the bow is deep, I will always appreciate it.
	It's very natural.
	What's your take?
	Go ahead.
	Well, I think it's all personal because I think some guys do not get bored of it.
	Some guys really appreciate it and they really appreciate the care about them because like I'm four years in the relationship and every single time like I do love to cook.
	Like I do I always cook for my husband and every single time I cook she's always he's always like surprised and he's always like appreciative.
	Yeah yeah and I like I said it's a it's a person it's a personal thing and it also like depends on culture.
	So I think maybe both maybe my husband because he did have kind of like a more chaotic growing up like he didn't have what we have now.
	So it's all very new to him and it's it's a beautiful thing like building that together.
	But I think yeah it's there's no such thing as too submissive.
	There's no such thing as no no no listen listen okay okay, listen.
	There's another thing like also men, don't just men, there's it varies person to person but men who actually respect you, they want you to say no, they want you to have that boundary, because then that means that they can't get away with whatever you want them to do, and there's respect and they love that.
	You don't want a doormat, but you want like there's not much, but you're, you become the door, such thing as too submissive.
	I would, I definitely disagree.
	I think that being submissive to the right man is a beautiful thing and it's it's a beautiful thing to experience.
	And I think men, you know, deserve that treatment.
	If you know, if they treat their woman right of like coming home and they're being, you know food made and being, you know all those things.
	But the thing is like there are some men that just get bored and it varies.
	It varies person, person to person.
	And then I'll move on.
	Go ahead.
	I have a lot of attitude and I'm a spicy person, but there's nothing more rewarding for me than please my husband.
	You're actually angry.
	That's your love language.
	That's my love language: to service.
	That sounded so horrible, but I love cooking.
	I love taking care of my husband.
	I love getting him stuff.
	I love popping his pimples.
	I love putting on, like, I just, I like it because that's the way I show love.
	And if my husband says he doesn't want to eat my food, there's nothing worse for me.
	Like, Swedish meatballs are not it.
	I'm just saying.
	I panic because I feel like I did something wrong as his wife, and he's angry at me.
	And this is, and that's how he like punishes me.
	It's like either he doesn't talk to me because he knows I hate it, or he doesn't want to eat my food.
	And that drives me insane.
	I don't know.
	Like, I feel like I was like, if my wife made me food, I'm going to eat it no matter what.
	I think, like, yeah, she's not.
	No, I'll tell her.
	I'll tell her if it's dogs.
	No, no, I'll tell her if it's not.
	The lasagna.
	Yeah, he won't tell me if it's dog shit.
	The lasagna was.
	I'd rather have you tell me it's dog shit.
	Yeah.
	No, I'll tell you.
	This is not the best food you've ever poisoned me.
	I would be like, you know, are you trying to poison me?
	What the fuck?
	But I'm still going to eat it.
	Because, like, at the end of the day, I'm going to come home.
	I worked really hard.
	And so I'm supporting my wife so she can do her job.
	She can take care of her.
	Which is to take care of the home.
	So she can do her job, which is to take care of the home.
	Absolutely.
	So I was just going to chuck the baby home.
	Oh, God.
	I'll take it.
	But yeah.
	It's very rewarding.
	Rewarding.
	Yeah, actually, exactly.
	You got a good catch?
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	You're an athlete too.
	You want to try to catch it?
	No, we're here.
	You got it.
	I'll catch it.
	Wait, fuck.
	Wait, can I have you hold the microphone?
	Hold.
	Okay, here we go.
	Fuck, okay.
	Fucking throws?
	Not that far.
	I don't know.
	My throw is kind of.
	Oh, God.
	No, no, no.
	Here making it way too difficult.
	I'm like, what's the best?
	I don't know what the best group is.
	Like a football.
	Do I give it a little twist?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Just fucking her.
	Do I do a little, you know how on the football they give it a little spiral?
	Yeah.
	Wait, did you used to be a quarterback?
	No, I used to be a receiver.
	All right.
	I think it's more, I'm not going to do a twist.
	I'm going to do.
	I'm going to do it.
	I'm going to go to the hair of the men.
	Yes!
	There you go.
	That was beautiful.
	With baby.
	That's going to be my baby.
	Perfect.
	Oh, you like.
	Yes.
	My preference is black men.
	Yes.
	There you have it.
	Let's pull up the.
	Is there another tweet?
	Is there one more tweet?
	Then we got to get into Carla's videos.
	I know.
	I haven't.
	Wait.
	I haven't lost respect for any.
	Oh, my gosh.
	This is crazy.
	Wait, this is not.
	Wait, did you, Nick?
	Are you.
	He's just looking at my.
	Did you just click a random tweet, dude?
	No.
	Is there a.
	No.
	What did I say?
	Am I going off on people?
	He was talking about skeeting on your grandma's.
	Oh, my gosh.
	And I was like, wait, I don't even know how we got there.
	By the way, you guys.
	This seems like a Call of Duty chat room now.
	You know what we're talking about?
	How with age we get better?
	My grandma has been working at the gym for a whole year, and I have never seen a perkier ass on an old woman.
	Her ass went from saggy to up and fat.
	And I'm like, what the fuck, lady?
	Get this extra.
	She is 82 years old.
	And she has a better ass.
	I am all about older people getting in the gym.
	She gave me the motivation to go here more.
	I'm like, one of the most amazing videos I've ever seen in my life was some like 93-year-old man deadlifting 405 pounds for reps.
	I have a friend.
	Speaking, it's kind of going to be ironic since you have that.
	You've seen a lot of stuff.
	All right, pull it up.
	Oh, no.
	Uh-oh, here we go.
	Kendra, white people don't have culture.
	OMG, ha ha.
	I can't right now.
	Whitey, white, white people literally stole everything from someone of color to adapt to them.
	Stop racist.
	Stop.
	Yep.
	Next tweet.
	I still stand by that very short.
	Okay.
	It's not racist for black women to humiliate white men.
	God, you people need a brain.
	I still stand by that too.
	You stand by that?
	Absolutely.
	It's called reparations for your ancestors.
	Motherfuckers.
	That's how I feel.
	I don't know if I want to make this conversation about it.
	I'm also not fully white, so I will put that out there.
	I'm half Mexican.
	Can you scoot the mic that way a little bit?
	Wait, it's okay.
	White people don't have culture?
	They've stolen everything from another culture, so yes.
	Maybe Britain, but America, no.
	We've stolen it from everybody else.
	What about Europe?
	Jews.
	I just, okay, Europe.
	And I meant Britain, Europe.
	Sorry.
	No, Europe in general.
	I'm going to say that.
	I'm going to say that.
	I'm talking about America.
	Do you consider Polish people white?
	I'm Polish.
	I'm talking about America.
	Maybe I should have specified it.
	No, but you said white.
	Maybe I should have specified it in my tweet.
	But okay, but so white people in America came from various European countries, some of which, for example, some of them.
	And who was here first, though?
	Who was here first?
	The Native Americans.
	Exactly.
	Wait, so what do you stole their land and created our own culture out of it?
	Yeah.
	What are we talking about?
	That's what happens everywhere.
	That's happened to everyone.
	It's conquered.
	Yeah, it's conquered.
	So we're still commenting on that.
	But no, but we're.
	Okay, you said white people don't have culture.
	I believe in that still.
	That's my opinion.
	Okay, listen.
	Wait, are you talking about cultural appropriation?
	Is that what you're talking about, kind of?
	I'm talking about that.
	That's also a directed tweet at somebody, again.
	It's not something I just fucking thought of.
	No, but you say you still stand by.
	Yes, because it was a person who was sitting there calling me racist, going off on me with a bunch of slander.
	All of those.
	For what?
	Because apparently I'm racist.
	For what?
	What did you do?
	I don't know.
	I'd love to know that answer.
	Well, probably that statement in and of itself.
	The white people don't have culture.
	That's literally for white.
	That's against white people.
	If that's racist, then they can get fucked.
	Like, stop being racist.
	It is racist.
	It's racist to white people.
	Good.
	Hope that it is.
	You hope that it is.
	Yes, I don't care.
	People are so goddamn sensitive nowadays.
	Get over it.
	Okay, so would it be okay for talking about like Spanish people or calling Mexicans like certain names or calling black people?
	If you're Spanish and you're doing it, I don't like the double standard of like you could be racist to white people, but you can't be racist to black people.
	I think that that's very like double standard.
	She's right.
	She's right in your opinion.
	So to my opinion.
	I'm racist from anybody who's different.
	Anybody's opinion.
	That's fine.
	This is my opinion.
	I'm standing by it.
	Nothing you guys say.
	So you think white people don't have a right to be respected?
	Did I say that?
	Did I say that?
	No, no, no.
	Did I say that?
	Did I say that?
	Listen, I'm not white, and I'm like, and I'm not white either.
	I'm super Latina.
	I mean, you're not Latina.
	I'm sorry.
	My last name's Alvarez.
	Yeah, but you're not.
	You don't have to.
	You have no idea.
	It doesn't matter, but you don't walk around with the culture either.
	You don't know what I do outside of your chips.
	I don't know me.
	I'm sorry.
	I have no idea who I am.
	This is the thing, though.
	And I don't mean to be disrespectful, but you are.
	You don't know.
	But there's white people here on this table.
	And did I direct any one of these people?
	What do you want to say?
	No.
	I stand by it.
	Yes.
	Because it's perfect.
	It's respectful.
	America has its own culture.
	Cool.
	We have our own culture.
	Good for them.
	We're all mixed.
	Again, this was not directed to anyone at this table.
	It was directed to a person who was already attacking me.
	No, but you said you stand by the statement on its own.
	I just want to keep to the circle because I don't have to.
	I'm going to keep my answer the same.
	It's not going to change.
	You guys can keep saying what you want.
	It's not going to change.
	But can you explain that?
	I just object as a white person, as the representative of the white race, the white delegation.
	I object to the assertion that white people don't have culture.
	In fact, I think white people have created a great many things.
	Like country music.
	But how about so many things?
	They're all.
	It originated from black people.
	It originated from black people.
	I would like to know why I think that.
	Nice try.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, vodka.
	Okay, well, there's a medium here.
	So, because, oh, this is going to be so bad.
	But one of the reasons why I decided to marry a white guy, a countryman, was because of the, I guess, quote unquote, I could see like the no culture thing because my cultures have, and I'm not saying that I'm against my culture at all, but I think that part of the white culture is to be more progressive, more open-minded, more understanding, more open.
	And I loved that openness so much because in my culture, you see that there's already so many roles being played.
	And I love my culture.
	I'm not saying that, but I wouldn't want to marry into it.
	And that's why I married a more accepting country, more, you know, with the American beliefs because my husband does have, you know, this American belief system of the land of the free, whatnot.
	And that's something that I wanted to go into instead of my original Mexican culture.
	So I do agree in a way that that no culture could be its own culture of openness, of open-mindedness, and maybe, you know, and that could, this could just be from my own personal beliefs of what I've seen with like white men that they tend to be so with my experiences, you're like, oh my gosh, like what, that's amazing that you have parties so often, that you guys have posadas, that you guys have like this tradition.
	And I love that because within when I was dating my own race, it was like expected.
	The woman had to do all these things and it's an expectation.
	I think that's that's a great point to make.
	I think America is such a good place to live because it brings all of those people of tons of different races and says, you have something to contribute to this great experiment.
	I want to be able to appreciate Asian cultures.
	I want to be able to appreciate African cultures.
	I want to be able to appreciate Latin American cultures.
	And I want to adopt the things I enjoy about all of those.
	And I can bring it into my own.
	And then I can express that in my own unique way and show that I am a unique individual.
	And I think that's something that has only been promoted in this country.
	Yeah.
	I think that's one of the many things that makes America the greatest country on earth.
	Yeah, because we're so mixed.
	I think also, I'm from Poland, and I was raised super, super Catholic.
	My parents, my mom was a helicopter parent, which was not good for me.
	But I think a lot of this comes from a lot of countries.
	I know Mexico, for example, Catholic there as well.
	So I think when you brought up Catholic, that is also why you kind of want to get out of it.
	Because my mom and my grandparents were so strict.
	I was beat.
	Like, my mom would beat the living shit out of me because that's part of a culture.
	So Butler donated $100.
	There are those that show the number of sex workers therapy-induced racism.
	Large marks.
	And the woman needs to sort her out her own problems before throwing a stone from her glass house.
	Let me address this.
	First of all, I just lost 40 pounds.
	Just wait for another two months.
	I'm going to look way better than you think.
	Secondly, I'm not throwing any type of stones at a glass house.
	Wait, what?
	Let's wait a little bit longer.
	Oh, we got grid one.
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	How is the skill in Mimi still talking?
	America's culture saved the world's culture back-to-back World War Champions.
	Oh, back-to-back World War champs.
	Listen, sweetheart, you will never make the money I have.
	You're not sitting here on a podcast because you're so fucking great.
	Sit down, stay behind your keyboard, little warrior.
	We don't care to hear it.
	I don't know, Mozart was pretty dope.
	I mean, the whole herpes thing's a little outdated.
	Again, more people have it.
	Talking about the fucking herpes.
	Oh, no, I'm back on the whole cult, white people not having a culture thing.
	I mean, well, and also back to that, that's also why I don't date white people.
	I don't agree with their culture.
	I don't agree with their standards.
	Wait, what do you mean you don't agree?
	You don't date white people because you don't agree with their culture?
	What do you mean?
	I don't.
	I disagree with.
	Yes, I don't want to be in America.
	I don't want to be an American.
	I don't want to be here.
	I didn't choose to be here.
	What do you mean?
	I didn't choose to get fucking born.
	I didn't choose to be born in America by my own parents.
	What?
	I actually want to talk a little bit about this mindset because I think this is not personal, okay?
	But I think that this type of mindset is also like poisoned to a lot of younger generations, like Gen Z. I'm seeing a lot of them be forget, forget what living in a third world country is like.
	And again, I didn't realize this until going back to college of how much power the United States has just with the military, how much influence we have.
	And I'd much rather be here and not have to like walk outside my door and there'd be like firebombs or a war zone because that's what it's like in third world countries.
	So I actually lived in a third world country for all of my high school.
	Oh, wow.
	Where did you live?
	I lived in Morocco.
	Oh.
	Yeah, so I did my high school with all Moroccan guys.
	And yeah, it's the goal for everybody in the world is to get to America.
	That is like, that is the because it is the most opportunity.
	It will provide them with the best possible life.
	And I think people in America don't understand how good they have.
	Yeah, and I mean, my so wait, you don't, you object to having been born in the U.S.?
	I'm confused.
	There's so many.
	Yes, my family is like my mom's side of the family is all in Scotland, Ireland, beautiful places, beautiful.
	I'll let you guys come in in a sec.
	No, I have not been to other countries as much as I wish I have.
	I've been to a few, yes.
	You said you don't date white people because you don't agree with the culture.
	And then you also got this.
	Hold on.
	Truth Bomb donated $100.
	The reparations argument is such trash.
	Africans sold other Africans.
	I know that.
	Especially when the reparations argument comes from the common non-slave state of CA.
	America is the best nation on the planet.
	The one instance, let me just address this.
	The one instance where I think reparations are acceptable is for people who are left-handed.
	Well, let me say I'm wrong.
	I'm not left-handed.
	I'm left-handed.
	I think fucking suffered.
	I suffered for years in elementary school with the fucking my I think I deserve reparations from the state and federal government.
	I want reparations as a left-handed person.
	Go ahead.
	I was being facetious.
	I thought it was fucking funny.
	That was it.
	I didn't actually mean that goddamn statement.
	I don't mean that.
	It's been what, over 100 years since black people have been enslaved.
	There's no fucking reason.
	Let's forget the reparations thing.
	Let's stick to the.
	You said that you don't date white people because you don't agree with white people's culture.
	Yes.
	From the men that I have had pursuing me and their families, their backgrounds, what they believe in, I don't agree with.
	Wait, the last guy you dated, was he white?
	Nope.
	And, but.
	Nickelodeon donated $100.
	Every time Abigail looks to her right, she looks like she's watching someone scratch their ass and smell their finger.
	Abby, good luck.
	You're adorable.
	Kendra, are you sure your last name isn't DeVito?
	Did you ever respond to Nickelodeon?
	No, that's just stupid.
	Why would I?
	No.
	I'm not giving it.
	No, he doesn't deserve energy.
	Wow.
	Sorry, Nickelodeon.
	Didi DeVito is a pretty big deal.
	Yeah, I mean, he's my uncle.
	I don't know if I'd smash, but I'd respect.
	You know, I don't know if I'd smash him, but I would be like, hey, you're dope.
	What about like just like free hug, at least, you know?
	No, BJ.
	Handhug.
	No, no BJ, just a free hug.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I don't express gratitude like that.
	Wait, so okay, before I have you guys come in, I know you guys want to come in.
	I'm just trying to get a little more understanding explanation of the whole white people.
	You don't date white people because you don't agree with the white culture.
	And that you don't like that you were born here in the U.S. or something.
	It's not necessarily I don't like it.
	It's that I would, I don't want which country would you rather be?
	I don't.
	Okay, hold on.
	Let me get this clear.
	Okay.
	Because I have.
	I can only imagine how poorly she treated her ma'am.
	Marley Quinn is ugly inside and out.
	I hope she finds peace one day.
	You have awoken their wrath, it seems.
	Yeah, I must have hurt someone.
	You are making who hurts you.
	Oh, you guys keep talking shit.
	Okay, go ahead with your point.
	What were you asking me?
	I mean, you said you don't date white people because you don't agree with white culture.
	And also, you, I don't want to misquote you, but you said you kind of sounded like you were displeased that you were born in the U.S.
	So this is the thing.
	I have to take my time to talk.
	Sure.
	These are very old tweets.
	And by old, I mean a few months ago before I was dying.
	They're old, but it's not going to stand by them, though.
	Yes, that's a whole.
	Thank you, God.
	Okay.
	Let me know when I can talk.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	You're good.
	Go ahead.
	My point being is right now, I am not happy with the way America is.
	I'm not happy being here.
	I don't know what other country I want to go to.
	I've looked into a few.
	My point being is I don't like the way the men are being raised here that's come to me and that I go to also.
	The ones who I've dated, the ones I've pursued, I don't like it.
	That's my preference.
	If I could move, if I could move to Canada or somewhere a little bit safer where I could do my homework and I know I want to go there, absolutely.
	And I'm trying to.
	Canada is worse.
	By far worse.
	Kenna's a big L.
	But where would it be?
	I mean, if you don't like it here, you could leave, right?
	Yeah, that's my plan once I have all my money saved up and I have to.
	You said you make six figures a year without lifting a finger just from that one.
	I take care of my family.
	I have a house.
	I have a lot of things in my life.
	I have to make that money to live up to my standards.
	Truth Bum donated $100.
	You guys come in after that.
	The sad thing about life today is there are men out there giving those 304 money every month.
	You can lose all the weight you think you need to.
	You're an awful person on the inside.
	You should leave the U.S. You're literally the only person to ever call me a bad person in my life.
	Yeah, she's not a bad person.
	In my life, I do.
	I gotta step in.
	She's really not a bad person.
	Nobody is.
	I'm not gonna sit here and say what I do in my free time, but what I do is not what bad fucking people do.
	And it has nothing to do with charity work and shit like that.
	So go ahead and fuck yourself.
	You probably don't do a quarter of what I do.
	Charity work?
	What do you mean?
	No, I said I'm not gonna talk about charity work and shit like that.
	Other things I do.
	Pablo Escobar.
	I mean, he was very poof.
	Yeah, I know.
	Oh my god, you can't.
	Yeah.
	But that's what I'm saying.
	It has nothing to do with all the things I do.
	Let's start with you, and then you go ahead.
	So go ahead with your.
	Well, first of all, I wanted to know more why you think that because, like, America is a multinationality country.
	And you mentioned that your relatives from Scotland and Ireland.
	Do you realize that also that those are white people?
	Yes.
	Like you can say like still out of America.
	Again, I meant when I said that originally, it was America.
	Okay, but America, it's an internationality country.
	Like I'm from Ukraine, she's from Poland, she's Jewish, my family is Jewish.
	Like she's Latina, she's Latina.
	I mean, America, it's like mixed.
	There are so many French, there are so many German, there are so many people you can.
	I know I'm one of them, and I don't want to date somebody in my bracket.
	Yeah, but they're so different.
	So there's white Italian, there's white average, there's white Germans, and they all have their own culture still within the U.S. Especially for us with Poland.
	My family immigrated from Poland, but like our families are very different.
	And it's like they did.
	I mean, I think everyone trying to marry her off to Wilden like a weird ass.
	Yeah, it's indifferent culture, religion.
	But what I want to say is like, there is no country in the world, and I've traveled all over Europe.
	I was born in Poland.
	I lived in Poland.
	I lived in Sweden.
	I've been all over Europe.
	I've been around the world.
	There is no country in the world that lets you do what you can do that you can do here.
	So if you move to Sweden, making money the way we're making money, forget it.
	And they will take half of your income, 64% taxes.
	That's ridiculous.
	Straight up.
	They do give you universal health care, but they take a lot.
	It should.
	And everyone travels to Norway to go get health care and pay for health care in North Norway.
	I mean, I understand America is maybe not great.
	Like, there are things happening that are maybe not super great.
	But you know what?
	We're a huge country and we're mixed.
	And I think if we just, you know, work together, it can be good.
	And the bad things that are happening right now, yes, they're maybe not super great, but you know what?
	I still love that here.
	And I'm so grateful that I had the chance and that America told me that, yes, you can stay here and work here because the people I have met here are the most amazing people and most amazing friends and family that I could ever wish for.
	So.
	Also, I mean, I'm so sorry.
	I just got very emotional.
	So, yeah, I'm just grateful to be here.
	This is the Team America World Police.
	I think the reason why it's so pressing and why a lot of people get so like frustrated, I think us who like to live in America, who love to live in America, is because we're seeing social media pull us apart when in reality we agree on this, on the fact that we've seen, I guess, both sides of the coin of like what the consequences of living in a third world country.
	And when you come to America, it's like fresh air, a breath of fresh air.
	We always, we used to joke about this, but I think it makes sense now.
	Whenever we would cross like from TJ to the United States, you could tell immediately, like just on the roads, like it's all rocky and like bumpy and scary.
	And then you just like cross the border and it's like Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	Scaling Mimi, your wallet is not that big.
	Keep selling that fat back and you might get there before you run out of people who will buy it.
	I retired at 45 and paid six figures in taxes.
	You're welcome.
	Sweetheart, do I need to fuck your dad and give him a child he actually loves?
	I will.
	I'll do it.
	I will.
	I just want to point out Grid One Motorsports.
	It's you apostrophe RE.
	I think, right?
	Did I get you?
	You are.
	But to finish my point, to finish my point, I think that a lot of us are frustrated, especially myself, who's like, you know, a Gen Zero and I'm seeing so much poison in these mindsets of like, I want to get out of America.
	I'm like, have you ever lived in another country that is not America?
	Can we stop being so privileged and so ungrateful and entitled?
	So, at least for me, because my family comes from like, they did, they sacrificed to just come here and give me the opportunities that I had.
	I was the first, you know, first generation.
	I'm sure that there's multiple of us that were first generation.
	So, I think that that's why it unravels a lot of like mixed feelings because those who have lived in poverished countries maybe see how great it is here.
	I think that that has to do a lot with growing up privileged.
	And I think Americans don't understand how privileged they are in comparison to the world.
	And then they victimize themselves.
	What about those who have been homeless and in jails and shit, like me?
	I mean, listen, I'm not going to talk about my life, but I also didn't really grow up with both my parents.
	But you're not the one saying that you don't like America like I am.
	Have you ever been trying to be homeless in a third world country?
	No, I finished.
	I'm not going there.
	So listen, like, I didn't have, I didn't, I wasn't given the best card, like dealt with the best cards in life.
	And I have a very successful business.
	I raised my daughter, have her, she's a like a full-time dancer.
	And this is not to glorify myself, but I think that the struggles that I've been through in my life is what has brought me to where I am in my life.
	So I cannot, I'm sorry, but I had a daughter at 18 years old.
	Her father lived in Switzerland.
	My mom is not really big help.
	She needs help from me actually.
	So I cannot like feel sorry for somebody.
	If you are functioning like a perfect functioning adult, you should not be homeless.
	I'm sorry.
	I just can't.
	I wasn't a perfect functioning adult at the time.
	I'm sorry, but when you have trauma in your life, which I have had to, we all have, absolutely.
	And everyone deals with it differently.
	And you know what?
	I would have loved to note that.
	Exactly.
	And I did.
	I was 19 years old and I was homeless.
	I am now 32.
	I have my own house, my own car.
	I pay all my own bills.
	So it took me a while, but I got there.
	I'm so sorry, but auditioning for Play.
	Hold on.
	But I'm so sorry.
	But auditioning for Playboy at the age of 19 was privileged.
	There's so many people.
	I wanted that opportunity.
	I would have loved it.
	It is privilege.
	I've been a model since I was four years old.
	So yeah, it is a privilege.
	I worked very hard to get there.
	Since four years old, I've been modeling commercial sales.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, the final point.
	And then the issue is that if you were dealt that garbage hand in any, pretty much any other country in the world.
	I'm not supposed to say that too.
	Yeah.
	You are stuck there for the rest of your life.
	I know many, many families that my family personally knows that they are stuck in their garbage life until they die and until their kids die and their kids die and their kids die.
	Until the king of that country is no longer there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	In Sweden, when you get a job, when you get that job, that's where you work until they carry you out in a body bag.
	The end.
	Well, I guess you don't have a war here.
	Yep.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	So we kind of have to do that.
	The point is that there's a lot of opportunity in this country.
	I just have to say there's a lot of opportunity in this country that a lot of people wish they had that we're not taking advantage of.
	So don't victimize yourself.
	That's it.
	I'm not.
	Never was.
	I'm very proud of my accomplishments.
	I'm not talking about you.
	I'm not bashing you.
	I'm talking about America in general.
	They don't understand.
	That's why.
	Well, you took it that way, but I wasn't talking to you.
	I should have said I'm apologizing.
	I'm sorry I took it that way.
	I saw and I felt that way.
	Okay, well, I'm sorry you felt like that.
	I took some MILF.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to press that button.
	It's the perfect time.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	You ain't lying, though.
	Oh, I think.
	You ain't lying, though.
	She's hot.
	Oh.
	Sure.
	I'm just saying.
	Okay.
	You are.
	You're very pretty.
	Okay, let's pull up Twitch.
	Then we need to get two things out of the way.
	Then we have some videos from Carla here.
	And then your husband's going to join us here in just a sec.
	You're going to bust the nut?
	No.
	What?
	Came out of left field.
	It's holding a nut.
	Just a bunch of rollback.
	That was out of auction.
	That was out of the audience.
	Wait, holding a nut.
	We're like, what?
	All right, let's pull it up.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Yo, J Funk thing for the Prime.
	TT12 thing for the Prime.
	I think I read Brightside thing for the Prime.
	Honda Eater86 thing for the Tier 1.
	Prime for the Think, the Prime.
	That was funny.
	Rare Terror 2, thing for the Tier 1.
	Guys, twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Yeah, fuck it.
	Yo, follow me on Instagram, BD underscore Atlas.
	Let's get me to 40,000 followers.
	I never fucking post.
	I don't give a fuck about Instagram.
	So yeah, I'm not really too preoccupied with growing the Instagram, but let's, you know, I should try.
	Okay.
	So hold on.
	Let me see here.
	Oh, okay.
	We have.
	Okay.
	Question for everybody.
	Does body count matter?
	Starting with you.
	I wouldn't say body count, but hygiene matters more than body count.
	Hygiene.
	Yeah.
	Hygiene's a big thing.
	Because honestly, like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, if you've had sex with like seven girls versus 15 girls, is that seven people really that many people in terms of my insecurities and anxiety?
	And the answer is no.
	But what I am concerned about is my health and safety.
	And so if I'm okay with those things, then it's okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me actually, I'm going to reframe the question.
	Do you, because I think tip, I think women also can care.
	Some women do care about male promiscuity or male's body count.
	But I do think this typically stems more so from men's preferences.
	And I do think men tend to be a bit more vocal about wanting those.
	So do you object to men caring about body count?
	Do you think it's, why should you care?
	It's insecure.
	Or what's your I think that if you're like in a situation like you are, I think you should absolutely care because you are prioritizing that factor in your life as well.
	But I think that if you're not a virgin, then you absolutely like do not have the right to care.
	And I don't.
	Oh, you don't have the rights.
	You don't have the right to care.
	Like, I'm sorry, like, unless if you're putting it up there as your biggest priority to maintain that in your life, then people, and also people lie, right?
	Like, okay, if it makes you feel better if I've only had sex with three guys in my life, yes, I've only had sex with three guys in my whole life.
	I'm not, you know, it's one of those things where I don't want to lie.
	Yeah.
	Well, does anybody here agree with what she just said?
	That, sure, if you're Mason over here who's also a virgin, then you're totally entitled to want that in a partner.
	But if you aren't a virgin or you maybe have had a, I don't know, handful or perhaps plenty of sexual partners, that that is somehow, that's hypocritical or a double standard or you should not have that preference for wanting a woman with a low body count or who's a virgin.
	Does anybody agree with that?
	I feel like I agree to some extent, more of like if they're, okay, for instance, if their body count's 60, but the girl's 30, the guy's 50, the girl's 60, and he's like, I don't know about that one.
	It's like, dude, you can't really, like, can't talk on that.
	It should be equal.
	That's where I agree on that.
	You know, the whole miles on a car.
	We're not cars.
	We're not diners.
	Let's not do that, please.
	We're humans.
	Like, it's not like our vaginas get looser over the time.
	No, we can actually make it tighter.
	Well, I mean, in terms of the car thing, I mean, I think people use analogies frequently.
	I mean, I'm sure you're familiar with what analogies are, right?
	No, I'm a complete idiot.
	No, I'm not trying to be condescending, but like a smartass.
	No, but like an analogy, it's a comparison between two things, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
	So if a guy uses some car reference or something, he's not, he's not like doing that to be like, women suck.
	I'm comparing you to a car.
	It's just, it's a common rhetorical tool used to better clarify or explain your position.
	But doesn't it kind of make you think that if a car has been run down to 250 miles, you should either trade it in and get a new one or get rid of it?
	Isn't that what men, and isn't that as a person you think of that when you have a car?
	That's a logical thought.
	That's what we're talking about.
	I personally don't see a car comparison typically in this.
	Exactly, but a lot of people do.
	So my point of that is like when a car hits a certain peak, get rid of it.
	That's not fair.
	We wouldn't do that to a man.
	We are always supporting you.
	Okay, no, I wouldn't do that to a man.
	How about that?
	For me.
	But donated $100.
	Okay, so I'm going to go to the bathroom.
	Oh my God, Jay Butler, get me obsessed.
	Yeah.
	This is why being a sex worker is filthy.
	For fat-faced Sally, what side effects has the Valtrex given you?
	Sweetheart, if you want me this bad, email me, KendraLeryan at protonmail.com.
	I promise I'll fulfill all sadistic needs.
	You clearly need it.
	You keep fucking talking to me.
	He's a urologist.
	Oh, I have a spectrum.
	I don't want to.
	They're the freakiest people I've ever met.
	Him as a doctor.
	Don't worry.
	He only sees penises.
	Because he's a urologist.
	It doesn't matter.
	You as a doctor shouldn't be talking like that.
	Yeah, that's really unprofessional.
	He's very unprofessional.
	Listen, he sees a lot of dicks.
	Let's give him a pass.
	I don't think I've heard real software describe the human body that way because I don't think they think about the human body the same way.
	Listen, we all need to blow off steam in our own ways.
	I don't think doctors get this.
	It's triggered by the human body.
	Yeah, but he's in his mom's base.
	Yeah, he's not a real doctor.
	I think we're overthinking.
	No, he plays operation.
	He's a doctor.
	We're overthinking.
	I don't say this, girls, but like the thing is, you do risk a lot more to have stuff like that when you have a large body count.
	It's just what it is.
	I mean, I still, I have never, so let me put this on the table.
	I have never, and I know you guys won't believe this either, but I have the test to prove it.
	I have never had an STD in this industry since turning 18.
	I had STDs in high school with boyfriends that lied to me and cheated on me.
	So I have never been exposed to that.
	Because you've been more responsible, but I'm saying a lot of the times, you're at more of a risk.
	And more people, like civilian people that are not on sex work, do not get tested after each partner.
	And from what I found out, they get tested twice a year with God knows how many partnerships.
	So I'll address your point.
	So you were saying that.
	What I want to know is, like, does this, wait, go, sorry.
	Well, no, you were saying that, well, it's okay if Mason over here wants a woman who's a virgin, but a guy who's not a virgin, or even a guy who maybe is promiscuous himself or has a promiscuous past, he doesn't have, I think you said, shouldn't have the right to have that preference.
	I mean, he has the right, but I don't really care what he's talking about.
	You object.
	I don't, you have the right to believe whatever you want.
	I really only value your opinion on that versus, you know what I mean?
	So from your own.
	Okay, so I mean, my response to that is, in order for you to desire something in a partner, must you also possess said characteristic or trait?
	So here's the thing.
	I think that there's a yin and yang and there's a like a same type energy that you have with people.
	Like there's a certain connection where you have where something's the same.
	You know what I mean?
	You bond over that thing being the same and you feel camaraderie over it being the same.
	Then there's a different kind of a connection that you experience with somebody when they show you something that you are just incapable of doing for yourself.
	You know what I mean?
	And you're just like, wow, that is totally outside of the wheelhouse of what I know how to do.
	And that's a very different kind of respect when you witness someone doing something that you know inside you can't do.
	And then it's like, wow, like that's partnership energy if you like it.
	Right.
	You know what I mean?
	But maybe you don't be like, it's like.
	But to address your statement that you made about how, okay, well, if you're a guy and maybe you've had some fun in your youth, maybe your body count's up there, that that immediately precludes you from wanting a woman who's not promiscuous or who has a low body count or who's a virgin.
	I would argue that there are plenty of things that both men and women want in partners that they themselves do not possess.
	For example, a woman who is broke, she's not wrong for finding a billionaire attractive.
	Even though she's not a billionaire herself, it doesn't make her wrong for finding billionaires attractive.
	It's more that just like if someone said that, I'd be like, yeah, have fun with that opinion.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I don't respect it, but you're allowed to have it.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I'm just stating my perception.
	Well, okay, which isn't someone else's opinion.
	Here's another example.
	Short women liking tall men.
	You need not be a tall woman to find tall men attractive.
	So in that way, a man who perhaps has a promiscuous past, he has a high body count, I think he's perfectly fine if he wants to date a woman with a low body count or who's a virgin.
	There's also the side note or the opposite where you have virgins who are, I'm sure there's virgins that are interested in super promiscuous women, right?
	And it's like wildcard.
	It's like, really?
	Are you sure you could be?
	Like, I think that there's something for everybody, right?
	But I think that we're kind of beyond the phase of like measuring which thing is the most popular life choice for people because clearly people have such divvying.
	Men are not very.
	I will, I think men will never be accepting of a high body count for the most part because they're just so like, like, that's my what's your body count, babe?
	Hold on, hold on.
	My body count?
	Yeah.
	Hold on.
	So I've always been in a relationship, so I don't.
	You have a low body count, right?
	Yeah, like I'm not.
	I don't do one-night stands.
	Like, I've always been in a relationship.
	That's good.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Cat five.
	Sorry.
	I'm trying to.
	Let me let me give you no, no, no.
	I wasn't searching for your name.
	I was thinking of what the prompt was for the question.
	Okay, so we're going around the table.
	Do you object to men caring about women's body count?
	Do I object to men's caring about body?
	Yeah.
	Do you think it's like a lame preference or it's like they're insecure?
	Like why?
	Who cares?
	You know?
	I think everybody has a right to care about their own opinion with things, obviously.
	So we can all agree that everybody's entitled to their preferences, but do you object to the preference?
	No.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Wait.
	I guess I didn't get to say something.
	Oh, you didn't answer.
	I didn't answer either.
	Oh, you didn't answer?
	No, I thought.
	Okay, sorry.
	I didn't mean to skip.
	Okay, you, you.
	It does matter.
	I think it does matter, not so much for the male.
	This is specific.
	Wait, wait.
	Am I answering the prompt right?
	What are we answering?
	Oh, do you object to men caring about a woman's body count?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, the answer that, or the question that I was answering to was like, does it matter?
	But I understand why it would matter just because from hearing a lot of women and working with women who have a high body count, they come with me like in tears and sobbing because they have a lot of like past trauma with other men.
	So, and they've told me before that the men that they're with don't want to work through that with them and unravel that.
	So, I absolutely understand why men would want to be with a woman with a low body count because it's, in my opinion, I think that each body is like each body is like a bunch of, I mean, it would be fair, but they also can't shame or judge women for it.
	They can have that preference, but they shouldn't shame and judge.
	And I think that that's what we're seeing, a lot of shame and judging.
	Okay.
	I personally object to it.
	Obviously, I would.
	Because I don't care about yours.
	So if you care, and again, I object for my own reasons, and these are people I would be pursuing.
	So I'm going to object to your judgment of me because why the fuck would I date you, anyways?
	If you're just talking about average man, that's your prerogative.
	Enjoy it.
	But also, I like a man who's experienced.
	I don't like men who haven't been around.
	I like promiscuous people.
	That's what I like.
	That's what works for me.
	And for the record, I have never had an actual bad relationship.
	Every man has been willing to work through all of my trauma, all of my issues, all of my body numbers.
	It hasn't been an issue, but you have to put the work in on both sides.
	That's what it really is.
	So it's going to be a lot harder, but I'm also very fucking picky too.
	So I'm not going to let my standards go down just because of my job and my body count.
	Okay, what about you?
	Well, I can tell you from my husband's view, my husband has a high body count.
	And he told me that straight off the bat.
	What's his body count?
	Over 200.
	Okay.
	But he asked me my body count, and it matters to him.
	And I don't have a high body count.
	And I told him I was like, okay, cool.
	And I asked him, why does it matter to you?
	And he was just like, I just want a know because it's a kind of trust thing, you know?
	And he also wants to know if I'm promiscuous or not, or if I've had any diseases, or if I'm actually going to be in a long-term relationship.
	I think that's more important because he was like, you know, if you're somebody that jumps around, that means you're kind of not ready to settle down or have a long-term relationship.
	And he wants to have it.
	He wants to be in a relationship.
	He's not interested in this and that.
	He has had a very few long-term relationships, only two, actually.
	Well, so the question is, do you object to men?
	I don't object it because I understand where they're coming from.
	Because I'm a person, when I ask somebody, hey, have you done this or have you done that?
	It comes from a place of trust.
	And I kind of want to know, can I trust you?
	Will you hurt me?
	Will you jump around?
	And will you find somebody else that you want to be with?
	When you said the body count, I thought we would be talking about medical term and like fat and thin people because like English is not my first language.
	But then I understood like what you're talking about.
	From my personal perspective, I cannot objectify, but I do think for girls it matters because for me personally, every single connection you make is like a spiritual connection and emotional connection.
	And for my husband, it matters.
	But I also like respect other opinions and other people.
	And I cannot put a line like, hey, like, it matters for everyone or it doesn't matter for everyone.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I mean, I understand why men don't want a woman with a high body count.
	And I'm not judging it.
	I'm not saying it because of that.
	But I do know that 95% of men care.
	And I think it's more of like, you know, just men don't want to imagine.
	I think like, and this happens a lot, like women can forgive cheating, men can't, right?
	Like, it just, it's just something that's, it's just what it is.
	Yeah, I can't.
	Yeah.
	I can't.
	I can never.
	Let's not get on to cheating.
	But so, okay, you guys gave your answers on that.
	So I'm curious.
	Sounds like you kind of said body count doesn't matter.
	We'll go around the table on this.
	What's your body count?
	A lady never reveals her secrets.
	I thought it doesn't matter, though.
	I'm still a lady and I don't reveal my secrets.
	Holy treats.
	I put a lot out there, so there's plenty to find other than body count.
	You should put a little more out there.
	I'm not going to.
	Because you said, well, I mean, okay, we know.
	We can count.
	We know Swinger's Island.
	We can count four on my OnlyFans and we can count Swingers Island.
	So that's eight total.
	And then you said in high school there was $100.
	If it matters, then my body count is three.
	Your ability to hide the fact you've been run through by 10 plus guys is as obvious as your ability to hide the fact you can't move your forehead after Botox.
	Babe, I go to the doctor and say, please freeze my face.
	Thank you for noticing.
	I pay a lot of money.
	Your doctor did a really good job.
	He did.
	He did exactly what I told him to do.
	So he's amazing.
	I mean, I feel like it's if a man doesn't want that in their life, like if they don't want to accept a woman like that, like I don't think that you should bash a woman for that either.
	Like, you know, and also, by the way, I don't want, so here's the flip side.
	I don't want a man with a low body count because I don't even care about this conversation, right?
	Like this is a conversation for people with low body counts.
	I don't care.
	I don't care what your opinion is.
	I don't want to have sex with you.
	Like, it's like literally not in my mind, right?
	So I'm like, so it's one of those things where when people bring up body count, it's just kind of like, okay, have fun in kindergarten.
	I'll talk to you later.
	Like, it's just like, it's just such a rudimentary conversation.
	No, I think it's an important.
	No, it's an important conversation.
	I think it's an important conversation, but I don't like, I don't engage with that mentality.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, I don't hang around people who are like so in that rabbit hole.
	You know what I mean?
	So I welcome to the whatever podcast.
	Yeah, I mean, I guess this is the whatever podcast, but it's so I'm having a little bit of a culture shock right now where it's just yeah, for me, it's a culture shock where I'm just kind of like, wow.
	But I think it's really important because again, a lot of women who want to wait until marriage, they go into like social media and they see a whole bunch of promiscuity.
	So they're kind of left with this thought of like, and this notion of like, okay, I should be doing the same thing because it's going to get me that's a specific lifestyle.
	And it's not until they experience all of these things with different men that they're like, oh, snap, I'm empty.
	I'm sad.
	I'm, I have like this baggage.
	So it's a very, I know that you might not like to engage in this conversation, but I'm definitely, I think that it's a very important one for at least, I know that the women that follow me, a lot of them are kind of like hoping and they're like, I'm waiting until marriage, but I want to know that it's worth it.
	It might be for some women.
	I don't think it's worth it to wait until marriage.
	Again, again, it might be for someone.
	Oh my God, the biggest disappointment of your life.
	Like, it's not that true.
	Like, it's your marriage.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Anyway, back to your story.
	Mileage is gone.
	Well, I would like to.
	Yeah, I think statistically shown the people who have the best sex lives are people who have been happily married for their whole lives.
	Yeah.
	Because that's the only partner that you're going to be doing.
	When you don't have.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Think about it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	And you want to know the point is that you're not going to be able to do that.
	One at a time.
	One back at a time.
	So I think it's very, it's true.
	Because it's the only person you've been with, and then you don't have to matter about size.
	You don't have to matter like that.
	And that's why it doesn't matter for me.
	No, no, no.
	Think about it this way.
	So you know so intimately this other person.
	You know them exactly what they like, how they like it, and you're able to provide that for them.
	And it is constantly learning and getting better and better as you age.
	So I think it's just true.
	It's not either.
	I know.
	It doesn't get better and better as you age.
	But you're like, but if you're not comparing, if you're not comparing them to 20 other people, like then you might like it more.
	I'm going to say like what I know now at 31, like I wish that I would wait until marriage.
	Like I wish somebody like guided me into that direction because something like one of my friends told me her son just got engaged and both of them are virgins.
	And she was like, Yeah, you know, I was like, it's beautiful that they're getting married so young.
	And she's like, Yeah, you know, it's actually beautiful that they don't have anyone to compare themselves to.
	And I, that hit me because I was like, wow, like sometimes we don't love a person and we're like, we could be having sex with them and be like, ah, this is whack because now you're looking at them through your other experiences, you know?
	And so I think there's beauty in being with the same person for the rest of your life.
	Let's go around the table on the question: what's your body count?
	My husband.
	Okay.
	Into the moment.
	I will give a bracket.
	Sorry.
	I will give a bracket.
	I will not give a number.
	That's fine.
	I've done about 50 scenes.
	Okay.
	And I've had about 50 to 100 private partners.
	Okay.
	I became sexually active at 13.
	Okay.
	So that's, you know.
	Do you want to do that?
	Maybe a range type of thing.
	Hell no.
	Question.
	Not with these people.
	Who's these people?
	This entire situation.
	Hell no.
	I'm not going to put myself on a cross like that in front of you guys.
	I've done porn.
	Continued down the line.
	Yes.
	Let's respect my standards.
	I respect that.
	I respect her boundary.
	Let's respect her boundaries.
	Stop.
	Yes.
	And also, I'm comfortable.
	I don't like that question either.
	That question is super offensive, and I won't let you go.
	Yeah, I don't like that question.
	What question?
	Yeah, like it's a woman's private business.
	You don't ever ask.
	You don't ask the woman.
	Hold on.
	First off.
	You asked earlier, is it okay if I ask about your weight?
	Why didn't you ask her about that?
	It's the same thing.
	You asked me earlier, how much do you weigh now if that's okay?
	That's my best.
	Because you're guys, first off, we're on a podcast having a debate and discussion about the same thing.
	You guys don't need to try to do some shaming and guilt type of thing.
	If she doesn't want to answer, that's totally fine.
	I moved on, but then when you decided to give a range, I then brought it back to her if she felt more comfortable to give a range.
	If she doesn't want to answer, that's totally fine.
	Of course, I'm always curious when if somebody states that body count doesn't matter, then shouldn't you ought to context?
	I don't feel safe in this situation.
	You don't feel safe.
	I don't feel emotionally safe in this situation.
	That's why I jumped in because I know how she is.
	If she doesn't feel safe, I'm going to protect her.
	That's right.
	And I'm just not going to open myself to trauma, right?
	She said, I'm trying to avoid unnecessary trauma in my life.
	So that question, thank you.
	Please move on.
	We discussed not picking up trauma for no reason as you go.
	That's part of it.
	You're not obliged to answer the question.
	That's totally fine.
	But I don't need the corresponding attitude that comes with your refusal to answer the question.
	If you don't want to answer that question, you can ask me this spot right now.
	And I feel like, why don't we just move on with this conversation?
	Yeah.
	Well, I'm going to continue the conversation if you don't want to answer the actual question that's directed at you.
	I don't.
	That's fine.
	However, I'm going to continue talking about.
	It's super hard for us women to talk about this because we are shamed for it.
	We are shamed for our sexuality.
	I'm sorry.
	Not by you.
	Not by you.
	I'm not saying.
	I'm not saying this is.
	Yes, but men are discerning just as women are discerning when it comes to who they choose to partner with.
	So just women have preferences, standards.
	Stop interrupting.
	Just as women have plenty of standards, preferences, and boundaries, so too do men.
	Men are allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries when it comes to who they sleep with, have long-term relationships with, and marry.
	And one of those factors that's very important for men is past promiscuity, current promiscuity, and body count.
	But there is a difference.
	If you ask a man who's on here, if she was a guy and you asked him and he said, I had 100, dudes on here in the car.
	You're the king.
	Yeah, there's differences.
	No, no, no, no.
	There's differences.
	Yes, they are.
	But if a woman says she has a 200, she's a whore.
	So I can tell you why.
	Yes.
	But why is it okay for a man?
	So, this is what I'm saying.
	Whatever.
	It's she doesn't want to talk about it because she doesn't want to.
	And that's final.
	That's totally cool.
	I don't need the corresponding attitude.
	In any case, to answer your question, why is there this supposed double standard?
	And so I don't think that it's actually desirable for men to be particularly promiscuous and sleep with a bunch of women.
	My own personal standard is: if I sleep with a girl, I want there to be continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	So I'm not interested in just going from chick to chick to chick, just like one night stand, one night stand, one night stand.
	Sure, but I'm unfortunate.
	But sure.
	But I don't think it's necessarily like it's not fucking high value or alpha.
	Like if you just sleep with a bunch of women and get herpes and you're now bringing herpes to all your future partners.
	No, no, I'm not saying that's not what you are.
	No, no, no.
	Okay, so but I can explain why this double standard exists.
	And it's primarily because getting sex for women is incredibly easy.
	Whereas it's comparatively speaking, it's much harder for men.
	Any woman, if she was so inclined, could be a slut.
	Not every guy can be a slut.
	Agreed.
	There are men who significantly struggle with dating, getting laid.
	Any woman, she can be overweight, she can be ugly.
	If she wants to, she can be a slut.
	Not every guy, her male looks equivalent, could not easily be a slut.
	I don't disagree with you.
	The issue here is not all men are respectful in the way you are, where you actually want to meet somebody and have a connection.
	Okay.
	And that's the men that come at us with the attitude.
	Yeah, but men get shamed for all kinds of things.
	They're not.
	I'm not saying they're not.
	I'm absolutely not saying, but it's not affecting their securities and their confidence the way it affects us.
	That's a table question.
	Is hookup culture a bad thing?
	Yes.
	Terrible.
	Okay.
	So you cannot have the corresponding belief that hookup culture is a bad thing, but we can, but shaming the behavior that facilitates hookup culture is undesirable.
	Shame is a very powerful tool.
	And frankly, I think we ought to shame.
	Let's say, I'm trying to figure out how I best want to frame this.
	We should bring back shaming.
	I'm in favor of shaming.
	I do agree with you.
	The thing is, all women are different, right?
	All women have gone through different trauma when it comes to relationships and when it comes to sexuality.
	And I think, well, they have.
	Sure.
	There is as well as men have.
	I'm not saying men are not without sexual trauma.
	Women and men, men don't talk about it, which is a shame because I think they should, because there is sexual trauma for men as well, and it should be discussed.
	But I'm not going anywhere any bad way.
	I'm just trying to say that we want to discuss different things.
	Burpington $701 donated $100.
	Kendra, this is Brian's podcast.
	We understand you are triggered by the question.
	You are the guest.
	Be respectful and don't give him that sass while telling him what to do on his show.
	It's called.
	Wait, am I?
	Does Does he think I'm Kendra?
	No, it's me.
	I'm coming.
	I'm fucked off.
	Actually, well, it was you three and then you being like the sisterhood when I'm getting into this question.
	We're here for a reason to have heated discussions and get there.
	If you found it disrespectful, I'm sorry.
	So I was just getting a little bit of a message.
	And I'm apologizing to you, not them, because they're the ones paying to talk.
	So go ahead, keep paying to talk to us.
	I appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Carla, I mean, or Kendra.
	No, no, well, you're Carla.
	You objected to me asking this question.
	Perhaps you think it's rude to ask a woman's body count, but I mean, in one of your videos, which we're going to get to here in a sec, you say that within the my understanding, you advise women within the first three dates to your husband, if I recall, you found out his credit score, his bank statements.
	Hell yeah.
	You found out how much money he had saved.
	Hell yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so if women are able to ask that question, I think men of justice.
	I didn't ask that question.
	Oh, well, he just shared it.
	Okay, that's fine.
	He was proud.
	He was proud.
	He was confident.
	Sure, that's fine.
	Do you advocate for women asking for that information?
	So usually, that's a great question.
	I usually say no.
	I say that a man who's like happy where he's at, we want to meet men who are at their peak.
	I say they will naturally just show you and you'll if if you are like I'm not showing that shit.
	Well, no, no, no.
	I know.
	It depends, right?
	It depends.
	It depends.
	And I was in a, and it depends what type of woman you have in front of you, because you'd be surprised when you find that woman that like, truly like, inspires you to be the best man you want to be like, you do things that you never thought you would and that's a man in love.
	So uh, I actually tell my ladies to not ask to let him kind of like show you, because I think it's a little rude and most of the time um, provider mindset.
	Men are men who are at their peak and extremely confident where they are, and they want that woman.
	They want to show them their resources.
	This is what I got.
	Is this enough for you?
	Because that's what he's saying whenever a man shows you everything he's like.
	Is this enough for you?
	Can you live within my means?
	Can you live within this?
	Okay, we can come to that later.
	Um, so I don't I going around the table, you said that there were fifty.
	You did 50 scenes and 5200 and you're private.
	That's people, not men, sure?
	What about you?
	Okay, i'm just gonna say hell yeah, let's go.
	Okay, I don't really care because I respect myself now.
	I used to not really respect myself.
	Donated 101 concerning the two 403s.
	If body count is deemed insignificant, discussions should be less sensitive.
	It's evident that the matter holds importance, despite attempts to downplay it.
	Filthy filthy, that's true, that's true.
	If it didn't matter, it wouldn't be such a touchy subject.
	Go ahead anyway.
	It's 28.
	I used to not have very good respect for myself when I was younger and I wish I would have gone back in mail and told my younger self, respect yourself and it's going to be okay and you'll find someone good.
	So 28 okay.
	Well, first off, I just want to say I appreciate your honesty because uh, and for being willing to answer the question, because certainly you know there's some people have hesitation when it comes to answering that and I certainly appreciate Your candor and forthcomingness with answering that question.
	So, yeah, respect honesty, always respect on honesty.
	Yeah, it seems like you've done a lot of emotional work to work through that.
	Absolutely, I love.
	I've been doing that.
	Yeah, I think that's important.
	And I'm reading the chat here.
	All the chat, they're saying like respect.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Respect for the honesty.
	So, thank you.
	Appreciate it.
	Yeah.
	But one question: you're currently saving yourself for marriage.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But do you think you'll like follow through with that?
	You think?
	I would like to.
	I mean, if the peak spring didn't happen, you would have.
	Let's be real.
	Yeah, I would have.
	Yeah, I would really like to have it.
	If she was led by a good man, yeah.
	Okay.
	I would.
	I have faith in you.
	You did it.
	Okay.
	I mean, I know how willpower to do it.
	And was this like, was there a because we've heard, you know, there's these terms.
	Was there a phase that like a bulk of these?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Was there a phase certain like five years?
	Well, because you're 22, correct?
	Yeah.
	So was there a phase, like, were you in college?
	Did you go to college?
	No, I actually went through firefighting school.
	Oh, firefighting?
	Really?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Are you a firefighter?
	I used to just do volunteering for about four years, but I went through firefighting school right after I got out of high school.
	And it was awesome, but the pay wasn't good enough, so I decided to branch out and do my own thing.
	But I still go out and see the guys and say hi at the station and stuff.
	So I'm still part of that community.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And so tell us about the phase.
	Was there a phase?
	There was.
	In high school.
	Oh, it was in high school.
	It was like junior year.
	Wait, so okay, you're 22, so junior year, so you were what, 17?
	Yeah, 16, 17, right when I got a car, pretty much.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to have a lot of time.
	When you got the confidence freedom.
	It lasted about a couple months.
	It was like a party phase.
	It wasn't all the guys in a couple months, but I wanted to have fun and see what was out there.
	And I was like, nah, this is not for me.
	By the time you graduated high school, by the time you're 18, if you had to put a number to it, do you know how many?
	I would say like 14 probably when I graduated.
	14?
	Okay.
	14 when you graduated?
	It was really sporadic.
	I really tried to date people and it's like they would just leave.
	And I do believe if you give it up quick, a guy will almost not respect you and almost leave in a way.
	Not necessarily.
	And some guys think so.
	Some guys.
	I think all my long-term relationships.
	Yeah.
	Well, I had to learn special.
	You're special.
	That's most men, though.
	It is true.
	And I know coming from me, it's a little ironic, but since I got single, I've been making everyone wait two to three months, and it's worked pretty fucking good.
	Well, I mean, it's what I need out of it.
	Like, if you respect yourself, people will respect you.
	And that's a big part of it.
	And I did not respect myself back then.
	So I think some men use the whole if she sleeps with a guy too soon, sleeps with me too soon, I don't respect her thing.
	I don't really think that that's the best metric for assessing somebody's long-term potential.
	Me personally, I think that there's much stronger indicators when it comes to long-term compatibility or values or potential promiscuity than the rapidity with which somebody sleeps with you.
	Because I mean, there's my own personal experience, most of my long-term relationships, many of which were very healthy and fantastic.
	Second date, you know, second time hanging out.
	So there's definitely much better metrics, not metrics, there's much better things that you can look at to assess for potential promiscuity, for example.
	I agree with that as well.
	And also, I'm just not a big fan of like arbitrarily waiting.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	Honestly, I guess it just depends on like your partner and also their beliefs when you come into a new relationship.
	Like you want to respect them so that they respect you as well.
	I mean, obviously, the last guy I was seeing, we decided to have sex and do that as well because we were very, we had a lot of strong feelings for each other.
	And sometimes that can get overwhelming and you just do it and it happens, honestly.
	But if I'm with someone that also would want to wait till marriage, just like I do, if I get into that relationship, then I will.
	And I'll respect that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Probably between 25 and 30.
	Okay.
	Like I'm 40.
	I respect the honesty, thank you.
	But also, I was in a bad place when most of that happened.
	My mom was super abusive, so I just tried to find love wherever I could.
	And I thought that was the right way to do it.
	Because if guys want to have sex with me, that means I'm worth something, you know, because of my mom.
	But yeah, I wish, do I wish I didn't?
	Yeah, of course.
	But, you know, you live and learn, and that's the way it is.
	Eight.
	I'm not so interesting.
	Okay.
	We're still interested.
	Of course.
	I bet those are the best eight of your life, baby.
	So.
	I know you're going to hate me for this, but I don't feel comfortable with talking about stuff like that because I know my husband's watching and I want to respect him.
	That's fine.
	Mason?
	Oh, yeah.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Z hand.
	Emily Henderson.
	Okay.
	Good for you.
	Okay.
	Yeah, all right.
	I think we covered body count pretty much.
	Okay, we have one thing, and then that's going to lead us into some of Carla's videos here.
	And then we'll try to get the husband up, I reckon.
	Hold on, let me get these.
	Let me get these chats in here.
	Oh, did I miss shit?
	Hold on.
	Fuck, I think one of the chats fell off.
	I'm going to have to double check that.
	While we're checking on that, though, still trying.
	Abigail, what's the word?
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	You can bring me lemonade while I chop wood, till the garden, and build your home gym.
	How do you feel about homeschooling six kids?
	I'm here for it.
	Yay!
	She said she'd do it for me.
	She's here for it.
	We have.
	Can we come to the wedding?
	As long as you don't make a scene.
	That'll be nice.
	You can already boots and my cobweb hat and my guns.
	They would miss.
	We have Durpington here.
	That accidental button press was accurate, though, Brian.
	Definitely a MILF, and all of a sudden, or excuse me, and all of the women in this panel, she's the most wife material likely.
	Wait, which?
	Likely.
	Oh, okay.
	I think.
	The MILF.
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Thank you guys.
	That's the nickname for the night.
	The milf of them.
	It took some MILF.
	Oh, Maggie Blush.
	Oh, did you have to infantry full of 100%?
	I don't know why that got triggered.
	My bad, my bad, my bad.
	Okay, I'm just double checking because I feel like I missed one of these.
	Hold on, guys, one sec.
	While I'm in the middle of the day, 403 and 304 are interchangeable.
	Like, does it mean the same thing?
	It's an insult term, but does it mean the same thing if they're both if it's like not the right numbers?
	But can somebody like fill me in?
	Yeah, what is that?
	It's like their way of basically just being like online troll or whatever they want to.
	Like it's like their version of like, yeah, because there's so many comments that I just can't even understand.
	Yeah, so did I pull up the market?
	I'm not totally sure the origination of it, but it basically just means evil whore witch on the internet.
	Wait, guys.
	Nick, did I pull up the Puffy Vegas one?
	Okay.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So hold on, guys, stop.
	It's a promiscuous woman.
	That's what 304 is.
	Okay.
	Puffy Vegas.
	I'm sorry, I'm not able to pull it up on screen, but this is from Puffy Vegas.
	Thank you, man.
	Every woman on the face of the earth referring to the Asian video, no man will ever get tired of that.
	The reason why you believe that is because your female friends are lying to you in reference to the bowing video, I believe.
	Thank you, Puffy Vegas.
	I wouldn't get bored.
	She says I'd get bored.
	I wouldn't get bored.
	Never get bored.
	Every one of my friends that I'm married, yeah, no, you're wrong.
	Sorry.
	They all get bored.
	They all get over it.
	The husbands, they all get over it.
	They get over bowing.
	The bowing, yeah.
	So that's when the dynamic changes in their relationship and they end up becoming partners.
	They stop being submissive in domination or submissive and dominant.
	Are you saying that you have like a swaths of married people?
	You have like two that bowls.
	They did.
	And then it's a bad thing.
	They literally bowed?
	I mean, no.
	No, they weren't like, no.
	But they would do the cooking, the cleaning, the shoes.
	Oh, no.
	Everything down to a T. We're talking about literally the bowing.
	I'm talking like actually.
	Sorry.
	I thought it was the figurative.
	I see a bow.
	A little bow.
	A bow check.
	Let's do a bow check.
	Stand up.
	Can you stand?
	No, you got to stand up and do it.
	Let me see a bow.
	She's holding on.
	All right, let's see the bow check.
	I'm straightening up.
	A bow check.
	A tall.
	A tall queen.
	That's pretty good.
	I'll give it like a B minus.
	It's good.
	Oh, okay.
	Practice makes perfect.
	Practice.
	Okay.
	Oh, Nick, can you pull up that one from Stiffler?
	This is going to lead into our Carla videos finally here at the end of the show.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
	We're going to go around the table on this.
	Starting with you, go ahead.
	Like me rate my own looks.
	Yeah, your own physical appearance.
	Oh, I mean, in my mind, I'm like an 11, but in these guys' minds, they're going to be like that.
	304 is like a 2.
	So it's, let's say, average 5.
	What?
	What?
	No.
	Nobody here thinks that.
	I don't even know what to answer anymore.
	I'm probably like, I'm probably like 7 on an average day.
	I feel like I average 7 and I can dress myself up to 10.
	All right.
	Okay, okay, all right.
	I was going to say that I was average too.
	I think I'm an average.
	And just because if I'm average and I can get this life that I have, then all the other ladies can have the same thing.
	Can they, though?
	They can.
	Well, the women that do work with me and the women that follow me, there's so many women who feel less than, and I don't want more women to feel less than if I say, like, I'm an 11 out of 10, I'm a 10 out of 10.
	I'll just say that I'm average.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	It's just appearance.
	Just looks.
	I'm a five for just appearance.
	I'm a five for my personality, so I'm a 10.
	I think that's how math is.
	It's called girl math.
	Girl math.
	Girl math.
	Abigail, what about you?
	I'm going to go six.
	Okay.
	I still have room to improve.
	Everybody does.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I'm a solid five.
	Oh, into the mic?
	I'm a solid five.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I would say six.
	Okay, we got a humble group here.
	Yeah, goodness.
	I was going to say eight.
	Oh, my God.
	These alarms.
	I'm sorry, guys.
	I live on.
	And it's not birth control because I'm not on it.
	I would say I'm an eight.
	An eight.
	Yeah.
	Mason, what about you?
	I say probably seven and a half, eight on a good day.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good pump going.
	Can we see the double buys again?
	Oh, yeah, the double buy.
	It's a 12.
	It is.
	It is.
	Oh, 15.
	It's the market value, baby.
	Wait, do we get to rate if we have a pump as well?
	Oh, are you saying are you trying to show us on the double body?
	A leg pump pump.
	Oh, I'm all about the leg pump.
	My legs, my prawns as well.
	Oh, shit.
	Wait, what is a butt pump?
	It's like showing your muscles.
	It's when you do it.
	Oh, you're pumps your muscles.
	It's not when it happens to go in.
	You know what I mean?
	No, no, you're having a blue day.
	Okay, okay, you're pumping your butt.
	My abs are popping.
	Then I feel like it's right.
	But it's, I used to give myself a six, but I've gained a little bit of weight, so I've downgraded myself to a five.
	No, I'm getting a little chubby.
	My face is getting a little chubby.
	I need to lose middleweight.
	I'm working on it, though.
	I'm working on it.
	You know, it's stressful life.
	I'm a personal trainer.
	I can help.
	Okay, we could talk after the show.
	Okay, we'll talk.
	We'll talk.
	I might be in Missouri, but I do online as well.
	All right.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, so wait, hold on.
	Let me just double check.
	We could just pull up the video, but I had some actually pre-notes before that.
	What?
	Why are you rolling your eyes another video?
	Are you ashamed of your own videos?
	No, no, it's not that.
	It's not that I'm ashamed.
	I just think I've done a lot of growing since that video because I re-watched it and I was like, oh my gosh, I had a Pic Misha moment.
	That was like my Pick Misha moment from the video that you're about to pull.
	Pick Misha.
	Well, I have a lot.
	We have like 15 videos from you.
	Line them up.
	I'm not going to lie.
	So we went through, like, you have like hundreds of TikToks.
	I do, yeah.
	But I've done a lot of growing since.
	Yeah, I've done a so many.
	No, no, no, no.
	You can't walk back.
	You can't walk back your position.
	I'm not going to walk back my position, but I definitely, I mean, I've been a year and a half married now.
	Like, I've definitely changed.
	There's been a lot of maturity and a lot of growth.
	Well, I've got a ton of notes on all of this.
	Actually, wait, wait.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Before we do the video, keep let's look at the news articles because there's some news articles.
	We'll just glance over those really quick.
	Nick, start with the New York Post one, I think.
	Just for some context here for everybody.
	I'm a dating coach.
	There's one thing you must say on the first date.
	There's nothing too interesting in this article, but scroll down, Nick.
	Can you hit that X on the Cox internet?
	Yep, that, yep.
	Was engaged to the love of her life in just six months.
	Now she wants to help other eligible bachelor adds find their perfect matches.
	The 24-year-old internet sensation, who boasts 1 million followers on TikTok, advises all the single ladies to talk about one crucial thing on their first dates.
	Their goals, but never their past.
	Never the past?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Maybe body count would be good.
	Not the first one.
	I'll explain.
	I'll do it.
	Well, that's not the most important thing.
	So, okay, we can next article.
	These are the more the prince of the price of romance.
	I'm a 23-year-old relationship coach.
	Women are precious investments.
	Men who can't afford to pay shouldn't be dating.
	Yes.
	Now, did they misquote you, or is this kind of, would you consider this like your position?
	Yeah, that's definitely my position.
	Okay.
	Well, there's one other article, Nick, and then we'll go back to the sun.
	Okay, so this is the mirror.
	I'm a relationship.
	Oh my God, geez, I can't speak tonight.
	I'm a relationship expert.
	Guys on low salaries shouldn't bother dating.
	And these are pretty much.
	Go back to the sun, though.
	We'll pull from that one.
	Okay, scroll down.
	Relationship coast.
	Wait, wait.
	Up, you missed.
	I'm going to read.
	Scroll up.
	A relationship coach insists that women are precious and men who can't afford to pay shouldn't be going on dates.
	Carla Ellia, 23, earns her living teaching women how to find the right man for the life they want.
	She believes being treated right is the bare minimum.
	Okay, next, go down.
	Let's keep scrolling.
	Okay, there's some photos, some pretty flowers.
	She said women's time is more precious than men's and they should be treated accordingly.
	Lives in San Diego.
	Believes women's time is more precious, so they should be looking for romantic partners or provider.
	Claims that many clients struggle to find the perfect man.
	Insists the right man to date is one with a provider mindset because they will give their partner the best treatment.
	This includes paying for all their dates before they've entered into a formal relationship and buying them gifts and flowers.
	Controversially, she said men who can't afford a woman shouldn't be dating in the first place because they must add value to a woman's life to be worthy.
	In my experience, women are scared of speaking their standards.
	They think there are no men like this out there.
	Scroll down a little bit more.
	To find these men, you have to step into the energy of I'm worthy, I'm healing, and I'm not making decisions from a place of insecurity.
	We shouldn't be treated equal to men.
	We should be treated as women, and we're special.
	We should be treated as precious.
	A man needs to understand he has to be in a financial place to invest in a woman.
	We are investments.
	I know I can afford my lifestyle, and if someone can't afford and add value to that, I would say thank you next.
	Scroll to the very top, Nick.
	Just the very top.
	So, just the title of the article: Women Are Precious Investments.
	Men who can't afford to pay shouldn't be dating.
	Sometimes with these tabloid websites, they can misrepresent or try to paint it in a certain way that isn't totally accurate.
	So, I just want to get it from you.
	Like, do you co-sign that?
	Is that your position?
	Or is there nuance or what?
	What?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that that's why my content kind of goes viral because it's very controversial to say, like, if you can't afford a woman, like, don't date in the first place.
	But I think that if we stepped into this mindset of like, I'm not going to be with a man that can't afford it, I think it'll protect us as women.
	And I think that that's the way that we should be doing it.
	And it also forces men to like get up and do something, get up and work.
	And it forces them in a way to, like, because if we set the bar of like, if you can't afford me, you can't be with me, men would get the like the initiative to want to work and to want to perform the best of their abilities too.
	Sure.
	And also, I think women just, I there's a lot of women who just think that what you feel is enough.
	And the matter of fact is, I'm, I don't agree.
	I think that in the beginning of a relationship, you should be very logical and think with your head instead of your heart.
	As a relationship matures, you can think with both, but in the beginning, you have to be wise.
	And that's why I always say, ladies, be wise.
	And I'm not saying that I didn't love my husband when I married him.
	I loved my husband because of the way that he loved me.
	And I think that if we have that standard as like the bare minimum, a lot of more women would be happy and a lot of more men would be happy because they would feel accomplished and they would feel worthy of, and they would be able to attain the woman that they so-called high value.
	And so do you think that broke men should not date?
	Absolutely.
	Broke men, like financially and mentally.
	Sure, let's go around the world.
	Sure.
	Well, let's say it's just financially.
	They're otherwise good men, but they're not in a good financial place, let's say.
	Well, a good man is going to be in a situation.
	Well, I mean, I don't think if you're poor, that that makes you a bad person.
	So it depends.
	Like, if you're 30 and you're saying that, I don't agree with that.
	But if you're 21, I think a man.
	If you're 21, 18 and you're poor, I get it.
	But if you're 31, 40 and you're still broke, there's something wrong with you.
	I don't necessarily know.
	I mean, look, I don't think you're a bad person, though.
	I'm not saying you're a bad person, but I think that there's something, there's some like limiting beliefs and some issues there.
	Well, I mean, some people happen to, you know, there can be financial ruin that, you know, some things are out of your control.
	For example, you know.
	But again, we were just saying a little bit ago that America is the best country to live in.
	And like, we have to do that.
	I don't disagree with that.
	Well, yeah, but like, you know, you could be on, well, I think most people perhaps come in.
	Durpington 701 donated $100.
	You're supposed to have that mindset when you're a virgin and not run through.
	In Carla's defense, I didn't know this, but she was a virgin before she met her husband.
	I think that's why they said it because they paid attention that she was a virgin before.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, so like, and that's that's another reason why I had these standards.
	I was like, if I'm going to date, I'm going to put myself in the dating market, you know, considering that I've done all the and put in the hard work, just as yourself, you know, I'm expected to be taken care of because I also come from a household where I was nurtured, taken care of, and I lived in a certain tax bracket.
	Right.
	You know, and I want the same thing.
	I'm not going to disappoint my parents by them sacrificing, you know, the life of coming to the United States and marrying into someone that can't give me that.
	Right.
	And at least to address Durpington's thing and the whole virginity thing, I would certainly argue that women who are virgins are in a much stronger, say, negotiating position and have much more leverage to be demanding certain kinds of treatment.
	But to bring it back to the whole broke thing, like, for example, a guy, what if he has some sort of, he's in his 30s and he has some catastrophic medical thing that just wipes out his all his financial savings because of health reasons.
	That's what happened with my ex.
	That's what happened.
	So to me, I would love to hear that.
	Okay, so there's different perspectives.
	Like if I was married to a man that already, like if my husband, if that happened to my husband, I'm going to fight for my husband.
	But if I was like a boyfriend and girlfriend relationship and that happened to him, that is not my, like that is, it's unfortunate to say, but that's not my burden to bear.
	Everybody has different standards, of course, and it's very unfortunate that that happens.
	But like I said, it depends on what the woman, you know, on what the woman wants.
	And everything's okay within a marriage, but marriage protects you.
	Everything outside of that, for me personally, it wouldn't be a good investment.
	Well, so, okay, so you think, so, oh, did we go around the table fully?
	So do you think broke men should not date?
	I think, did you get, we gave you, you said they should not.
	I don't think they should.
	You should focus on your other stuff, and then dating will be easier, and it's just a timing thing.
	Kind of like what you said.
	Short answers if you can, guys.
	Even if you're rich before, no.
	If you're broke now, you should not.
	You can't.
	You shouldn't be dating.
	You can't.
	Are you investing at least any of your money into you?
	That's the main thing that I think about.
	I think that if they have something lined up to provide in the soon future, then it's fine to date if you're broke.
	Because college students, they date all the time and they're broke, but they have something lined up.
	I've dated one and I mean, it is what it is.
	Yeah, most people in college don't have money.
	I mean, I had to provide for a little bit and then it was fine after that.
	I mean, they provide after that.
	You do what you have to do if you really love someone.
	I don't know.
	I don't care that much.
	Okay.
	So you'd be fine with broke eye dating.
	I mean, yeah.
	I would be fine as well if I'm looking for dating.
	If I'm looking for transaction, that's it.
	Like we talked about like sugar daddies before, and if it's like a relationship lined up in the transaction, that's one thing.
	But if you are looking for connection and dating, that's a different thing.
	No, no, no, no.
	Like, my husband was broke.
	You scoot your mind this way.
	Go ahead, go ahead.
	Yeah, when we started dating, my husband was broke.
	Okay.
	So.
	I mean, I don't think they can't, they shouldn't be dating.
	I think that.
	Wait, are you married or in a relationship?
	I'm married.
	Oh, you're married.
	Wait, hold on.
	Oh, wait.
	I thought, okay, because you said you were in a relationship.
	No, I said I'm married.
	No, she said she was married.
	Really?
	I wrote that down.
	I just, I knew, I heard relationship four years, but I knew you're married.
	Okay, so we got married, married, married.
	Wow, okay, that's new for the whatever podcast.
	We have chronically single people mostly.
	Okay.
	Eh, I feel rushed.
	Okay, I get like the point.
	I think that in the best case scenario, men maybe should focus on their finances before they pick their life partners.
	But I don't think it necessarily has to, like, you know, I mean, I do believe in building together with your partner too.
	So, I mean, I should broke men date.
	Should broke men date?
	It's just, the thing is, like, how broke, though?
	Like, are they, like...
	Broke.
	Just whatever your sense of broke is.
	It's just, it's such a weird, like.
	Like, would you accept an ice cream date for the first date?
	I totally would.
	Yeah.
	No, I wouldn't accept an ice cream date.
	Uh-oh.
	Bust up.
	Uh-oh, Carla.
	The turning on.
	No, no, no, good.
	The turning on.
	Yeah, no ice cream date.
	The type of date does not mean whether or not he's broke.
	It's more so kind of like, hey, do you need me to pay every time we go out?
	Yes.
	Hey, are we limited on what we can do because of your income, your financial situation?
	And do I have to cover your back?
	Yeah.
	So, question for Carla.
	What about getting married?
	So broke men shouldn't date.
	I assume definitely shouldn't get married, right?
	And they're not yet.
	No.
	Wait, question.
	What about having kids?
	Should broke men have kids?
	No, there's no.
	That's a tough one.
	You can't.
	I will say there are broke.
	There are men who do the same thing, right?
	Where it's like they have women taking care of them.
	So I do think that if there's someone out there that will love you and you guys can help each other, then do it because there are broke men getting married to rich women.
	But like.
	Quick, quick points.
	Quick points.
	My stepdad made $1,600 a month, but he was the best dad I could ever ask for.
	That's beautiful.
	That's awesome.
	Yeah, so I mean, it really depends.
	Because my parents, I come from a combined, like, I'm adopted.
	I have a, my stepdad adopted me.
	My dad and my mom, my mom was a single mother of two, and my dad was a single father of one.
	So, like, it really just depends.
	Like, if I'm, and I've said this before in my videos, like, if I'm coming into a relationship childless, I'm expecting for my partner to come into the relationship childless as well.
	Yeah.
	But are you saying, like, should broke people not?
	Well, I don't know if it's, should say broke men or broke people.
	Perhaps it could be the case of both.
	But do you think broke men should not have kids?
	Maybe I should.
	No, they should.
	I mean, they, I mean, they shouldn't.
	Like, what?
	Shouldn't?
	Yeah, they shouldn't.
	That poor baby, like, poor kids.
	What type of life do you want them to be raised at?
	Like, broke men shouldn't have lineage, period.
	Yeah.
	Broke men shouldn't have a lineage?
	They shouldn't.
	No, they shouldn't.
	My dad's a broke man.
	That's fine.
	Yeah, my dad's a broke man, and he has four kids from four to five.
	Broke men should not have a lineage.
	They shouldn't.
	Why are they profile with you?
	That's great.
	It's tough to listen to.
	It's tough, but think about it.
	But poor does not mean they wouldn't take care of their kids.
	Okay, the way you do one thing is the way that you do everything.
	I'm not saying, like, again, going back to like, if you're 40 and you're 45 and you're broke, like, hello, it's a very fine and thin line that we're crossing here.
	But I think from all the things that we've seen time and time again, single mothers, like, I just want that suffering to stop.
	And it comes and it stems from broke men.
	Well, there's single, well, not again, not just financially, but I want to point out, like, you guys are both from Orange County, right?
	Which is a fairly wealthy, very affluent area.
	And it sounded like what you guys said earlier was that a lot of these parents are kind of out of the picture a little bit.
	Even though they're very wealthy.
	Yeah, depending on who you are in Orange County.
	Sure, not everybody.
	I'm not saying all wealthy people are just totally checked out, but even having wealthy parents doesn't mean that they're going to necessarily be good parents.
	Oh, money is not medicine.
	My mom, like, money is not medicine and money is not survival.
	Before my mom died, she was the best mother she was able to be, but she had no money.
	I mean, I was cooking potatoes for two weeks on my own.
	Right.
	Like, she was broke, but she was the best person.
	But you saying broke people should not have a lineage.
	I'm not saying broke.
	I'm not saying broke people.
	Oh, you said broke men.
	You said broke men should not have a lineage.
	And listen, and listen, I know that it's a very hot take, but listen, again, even if you're wealthy or even if you're rich with money, doesn't mean that you're really wishful.
	Wait, I have a follow-up question.
	Let's say you were the dictator of America.
	Would you ban poor men?
	Like, would you ban poor men from having children?
	Yes.
	I love you.
	So undergoing my welfare as well.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Hold on.
	I'll let you guys come in, but I have quite a few follow-up questions here.
	So do you think if anybody is on any sort of, and I'm going to shout out Andrew Wilson from the Crucible here because he helped me out a little bit with this.
	But do you think if the, let's say, the man, or perhaps even the woman, if they're on any sort of government or state assistance, that they should not date or have children?
	Because they're poor.
	Well, explain it.
	There's like the veterans get help.
	Sure.
	I'm saying like perhaps just someone who's not welfare.
	I mean, I feel like I'm almost, it's almost redundant to be asking this question because you've already said that.
	Well, no, I think, okay, well, first of all, I know that this is going to sound very awful because of the current economy and with inflation.
	I understand all those points and I get it.
	Don't walk back.
	No, I'm not.
	No, no, no, I'm not.
	But the thing is, like, I also don't want to ignore the fact that what we just stated that America was the best culture in the world.
	Hold on, just a second.
	Jackson donated $100.
	The one that was lucky enough to be adopted into a wealthy family telling broke men specifically they shouldn't procreate is the irony I needed today.
	Who is adopted?
	Actually, I was an awful lot of people.
	Oh, wait, wait.
	Well, you said you were adopted by the mother.
	No, no, no, but he wasn't wealthy, though.
	Okay, so he...
	But your mom, your mom is your...
	My biological mother, but my stepdad adopted me.
	My biological mother, but my stepdad adopted me.
	Yeah, I think, but he's just for clarification.
	I don't think you were adopted in the sense that you were an orphan.
	No, no, no.
	Wasn't an orphan.
	No, no, no.
	Okay.
	And was your family, your stepdad and your mom, were they?
	They weren't wealthy.
	grew up to be but again that's what i'm saying like you turned out Exactly.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Despite the fact that it sounds like perhaps your parents weren't the most fucking.
	They weren't.
	But so why banned?
	So, no, no, no.
	Listen, how old were you when your stepdad came into your life?
	I was.
	Not particularly relevant.
	So when my parents met, again, going to the building thing, they weren't making a lot of money.
	Like, my mom was on welfare.
	I've lived that life with my mom.
	And then my dad came into the picture, two incomes.
	And my dad worked his way up because my mom was like, uh-oh, I'm not working.
	I'm staying with the kids.
	Wait, your parents were on welfare.
	No, no, no.
	My parents weren't.
	My parents weren't on welfare.
	My mom was on welfare.
	When my dad came into the picture, he made life.
	Wait, so it's okay for women to be on welfare, but not for men to be on welfare.
	So listen, but the matter, listen, the matter of fact is that a lot of men step out of the children's life.
	My mom had to do what she needed to do, and that's why I'm saying broke men shouldn't be dating because you end up with situations.
	I see what you're saying.
	I do see what you're saying.
	But if you're saying, so you said broke men should not have a lineage, I feel like if we follow that, and again, shout out to Andrew Wilson here from the crucible, if we follow that to its logical conclusion, you would eliminate most African-American families and most African-American children and other racial minority groups as they were the ones who are most heavily dependent upon government assistance.
	But I think demographically, to help you, I'm literally verbatim.
	I want to give full credit to Andrew Wilson here.
	I'm giving full credit to that.
	I totally agree.
	I'm not saying that this isn't a matter of fact, but again, I blame the public education system.
	I'm not blaming men at all.
	I don't think it's the man's fault.
	I think that the blame is on the public education system and the way that our culture is set up.
	And I do have a lot of compassion.
	Again, I'm a POC.
	I'm a person of color.
	And if it wasn't for the decisions and the discernment that my mom made for her lineage to be with a man who was a good man, he might have been, I don't want to say he was broke at the time, but he might have not been making as much money as he is now.
	But he, you know, he was a wealthy man with his character.
	They got to the point where they were able to raise a family.
	Sure, but like, and again, full credit to Andrew Wilson here.
	Saying that you would, broke men should not have a lineage, broke people should not have children.
	I mean, you've full credit, Andrew Wilson here.
	You've just outlined a eugenics program.
	You're a eugenicist.
	Well, I think that you just set me up on a trap here.
	And I want to take a moment to gather up my thoughts.
	I'm not saying that broke, well, I know that I said that broke men shouldn't have a lineage, but what I'm saying, based off of the limited experiences that I had, is that if we were more accountable with men to have and to build a life of like success, and instead of focusing on dating so early on and they focus on working hard, getting good jobs, I think that we would have a very different society today.
	So when I say broke men shouldn't have lineage, I'm just saying I think that well, you did say that they shouldn't have children.
	Yes, I said that.
	Wait, but would it be okay for poor men to date poor women?
	I don't know why you're, I mean, like they could do, they could do whatever, they could do whatever they want, but what I'm what I'm saying is like, I don't see the benefit.
	I don't, I need to gather up my thoughts.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	No, that's fine.
	But okay, so it sounds like it's not okay for a poor man to date a poor woman.
	Correct.
	It's not okay for.
	I don't think it means that.
	Should fat, stupid, and mentally ill women not be allowed children either.
	Some rich people are the worst morally.
	Some broke people are the most giving kind people.
	What is wrong with you?
	No one said that.
	I said that.
	Hold on.
	I think the terms that you use are maybe not the worst.
	I mean, not the best.
	So let me go ahead and rephrase this.
	When I say like broke people, I'm not just speaking about financially.
	I'm also speaking about morally and values and character.
	Well, if you go back to the goalposts, no, I've said this since the beginning because you said, because you said, because you said, let's just focus financially.
	And I said, okay.
	But what I'm saying here, just because you are broke, that doesn't necessarily mean you are a broken character.
	And also, if you're wealthy, that also doesn't mean that you're broke, that you're wealthy with.
	But when you say the term broke, most people are taking, they're not, you're now adding nuance to it, but most people are going to take that from a financial frame.
	Yeah.
	I would say a more apt term to use would be like degenerate or something that has to do with which you're shifting.
	Well, but I want to stay true to my message because I actually promote a lot of like two women who come up to me and they're like, hey, he's not that rich, but like he's such an amazing man and he treats me well.
	And so that to them, I say, you can build together.
	There's no problem there because character is always going to override, you know, money.
	And we have some experiences here where I had the best mom, I had the best dad, and that's what I'm, that's what I'm saying.
	Is it okay?
	So let me ask, is it okay for a poor woman to date a rich man?
	I mean, I why not?
	I think if she can provide what is being asked is different.
	What about a poor man?
	And if she can provide for him what he's looking for to a T, if he's like, I want you to be at home cooking, looking nice, get your nails done, I want you to be the perfect woman for me.
	Why not?
	I think that your message is more of like in the ideal world, men should be financially stable before they start a family, right?
	But I think that the words that you chose are a little bit poor, and that's why like people are starting to like attack you.
	Nobody's attacking her.
	No, like they're on there.
	They like, yeah.
	Don't listen to the peanut count.
	So I think I get your point.
	I really do because as a parent, I know that I would have loved to give my daughter a much better life if I was like financially stable when I had her.
	So I get what you're saying.
	So, but okay, what about a poor man dating a rich woman?
	Is that cool?
	I mean, if the woman is, you know, accepting of that and she wants that, why not?
	Like, I'm not saying that.
	But you said broke men shouldn't.
	Yeah, well, I think that that's taken out.
	I don't think that that applies here with the question that you're asking.
	So broke men just shouldn't date other broke women?
	I know.
	Well, I think broke men shouldn't be focused on other things, not just like procreating.
	They should be focused on their goals and like maturing and working up the corporate ladder of trying to find jobs or attention.
	Yeah, couldn't the same thing be said about women?
	Absolutely.
	And I say that.
	Actually, I say that all the time.
	Focus on yourself first to find the good partner because a lot of the times we see that women date when they're at a very low vibration.
	And you guys have said it here: low vibration when you're still working on things.
	And then finally, when you're at your peak, when you feel confident because you work through, you know, all of your traumas, you know, creating your business, whatever the case may be.
	Once you step into the dating stage again, you realize that you have better options because you're happy, you're confident, and you're in a way like, you know, you're set free.
	You set yourself free.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Clarity is important.
	Sorry.
	So, okay.
	I just, don't you feel it's like a little elitist to say that broke men should not date.
	Okay, well, why?
	Okay, but why should they be having kids if they can't financially support them the way a woman can?
	So why should a man be broke and a woman not when she's the one that has the kid for nine months, can breastfeed them, can literally keep them alive for free, but then also has to go on welfare because her man can't step up and take care of the food and can't take care of the diapers and can't take care of the clothes.
	How is that fair?
	Why should he be having a baby he can't support?
	I mean, I think it's more about broken men.
	Yeah.
	So shifting the goal place.
	Shifting the goalpost.
	I'm just talking about from my perspective.
	Or is it mom and daily?
	No, but also, also, I also want to be accountable for the women too, because I tell that's this is what this is like a protection for them, right?
	So they don't have to go through the welfare system.
	So they don't have to go through these things.
	I say, don't date broke men.
	So it's in a way it's a protection so that we can avoid this from occurring again and again and again.
	And I put more accountability on the woman rather than the men.
	I say, you need to build, you need to have built enough discernment.
	That's why a lot of women attack me sometimes.
	And I tell them, you need to have discernment.
	You need to know your standards, your boundaries, and you need to be at a good place that you can decide with clarity.
	It's very balanced.
	I don't just keep it just one-sided for men or women.
	It might be a eugenicist position, though, to say that broke men shouldn't have a lineage.
	I'm just done seeing single moms on welfare.
	It is a very, I live that life.
	All right, I won't.
	I won't linger too long on this topic, but let's get into the videos.
	We've got to get into the videos finally.
	There's some good ones here.
	Oh, here's the one.
	Okay.
	Go ahead.
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	You're not a 10.
	All right.
	I'm not saying that to be mean, but you're not a 10.
	Okay.
	The only way for you to be able to avoid these types of situations in these types of men and these types of conversations is when you recognize your worth and you work on your character.
	Because let me ask you something.
	Do you think they would dare to ask me something like that?
	Do you think they would dare to try to lead me in a conversation?
	I dare say so immature and mediocre.
	I daren't.
	Maybe they would because they have no self-awareness.
	But anyway, they're not inviting women that are walking aligned with purpose.
	A lot of the women that they're inviting are still in their self-discovery phase.
	Pause it really quick.
	Pause it really quick.
	Well, I just want to say, first off, we've had plenty of high-value women on the show.
	Candace Owens.
	Hey, that was recorded in August.
	Sure, sure.
	Plenty of, we've had wonderful women on the show.
	So, okay, continue, Nick.
	The world.
	Because when they talk about their ideal woman, they're speaking about a high-value woman.
	But notice, they can't have high-value women in their show because do not entertain those conversations.
	I'm not saying that the ladies that they invited are not high-value women.
	I'm simply saying they're still in their self-discovery journey.
	So to avoid all of these bad, low-effort, low-class men, I need you to armor up with character and worth.
	You helped me when I got through my breakup.
	I need you to armor.
	Yeah, you helped me.
	Wait, what?
	I just realized I've seen her.
	She helped me in July.
	Wait.
	Go ahead.
	I just stopped.
	The reason why these men.
	Go ahead.
	Do you have to reload it?
	Is it?
	That's weird.
	Awkward.
	It's not working.
	It's not loading.
	Oh, man.
	What a cliffhanger.
	That was good.
	There's so many videos.
	What about the next one?
	No, just try to reload it, I guess.
	I'm in such pain.
	Oh, wait, the husband.
	Yeah, he's so weird.
	Yeah, where he is.
	He's chilling outside.
	You got it?
	Okay.
	Ooh, all of these bad, low-effort, low-class men.
	I need you to armor up with character and worth.
	I need you to armor up by being in your discernment and truly living a life with intention and purpose.
	The reason why these men want you to feel less than is because they want access to you.
	They want access to us because we have something that they don't.
	Pause, pause it.
	Erroneous!
	Erroneous!
	Keep going.
	Don't have.
	And if you, as a woman, have not yet recognized how much worth you have, baby girl, it's time to do the inner work.
	Be such a lady that men would never dare to speak to you in that way because they respect you so much that they know that those conversations are not interesting to you.
	They are not stimulating to you.
	On the contrary, they are annoying and mediocre conversations to have.
	The only way you can elevate your experiences is by elevating your standards.
	Please, be wise.
	Erroneous.
	Oh, so sorry, I didn't mean to press that again.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	So that's in relation to the whole are you a 10 conversation?
	Well, and you said you said earlier that you kind of changed your view on it a little bit, but so I don't like ask the are you 10 question to like I didn't to be there.
	I know what you're gonna say.
	No, I don't want it's not to make women feel like less than what I want for both men and women is to operate not from delusion, but from being realistic.
	And I would say, for example, confidence, right?
	Because sometimes people come on the show.
	Granted, I think everybody here was fairly modest in their answers to the rate yourself on a scale of one to ten question.
	My view with confidence is, and we have women come on, say they're 10, and oh, I'm just being confident.
	Confidence is not thinking you're a 10 when you're not.
	Confidence is being fully aware and okay with the fact that whoever the person may be who's on the show, that or whoever it is, that you're a six.
	Now, I'm not saying you or anybody else here at the table, I'm just saying you're just cool.
	Like, oh, yeah, I'm a six, cool, like I'm happy with myself, you know.
	Um, and one of the major issues that I see in the dating world is you have average women do not want average men, and you have women who will spend their 20s chasing Chad, racking up high body counts, passing on good men who are actually on their level.
	Um, and I think a lot of average women would rather be a side chick or casual only with like a really attractive guy than in a relationship with an average guy.
	So it seems to me that average women want above average men.
	Average women don't want to date average men.
	So if you have women like that woman in the video who thinks she's a 10 in beauty, she thinks she's on par with the most beautiful women in the world.
	And I'm not saying she's ugly, but she's certainly not a 10, which is what I was trying to say in the video.
	One of the things that I try to emphasize for both men and women is, I already said this, you need to be realistic with your own self-assessment of your physical attractiveness.
	Physical attractiveness is very important when it comes to dating.
	So if you're Delulu, if you're delusional, and you're, oh, I'm fucking hot shit, I'm going to be chasing after all these dudes who if you are not chasing after pursuing people, whether you're a man or a woman, that are on a commensurate level to you in terms of your, say, value on the dating marketplace, whether you're a man or a woman, you're going to be disappointed.
	And you're not going to find that person.
	For women, the way that's for men, the way that's going to manifest is they're not going to get any attention from women at all if they're constantly trying to shoot way too outside their league.
	And for women, the way that's going to look is there are going to be a ton of men that will sleep with you but never give you commitment.
	And that's when women start racking up high body counts and when these men are just using them.
	Because I think the difference between men and women is men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that they'd never commit to.
	Men welcome the easy access to sex.
	So like a girl who, a girl who's say like a five, she could sleep with a guy who's an eight.
	He's never going to commit to her.
	He might keep her around for a little bit, just welcomes the easy access to sex.
	He'll never commit to her though.
	So that's where women can get into trouble if they have an unrealistic self-assessment of their own attractiveness.
	That was a long-winded goal.
	That's actually a really good point.
	I just have to say.
	No, no, no.
	I completely agree.
	Just to add, just to add one thing to it is: so, my view is that typically for a woman to sleep with a man, that man has to be at least physically attractive enough for her to be in a relationship with that guy.
	Typically, women will typically break the rule.
	Like, let's say a woman doesn't typically have one-night stands or casual sex.
	She might break that rule if the guy is like exceptionally physically attractive.
	Whereas it tends to be almost the reverse with men.
	So for a man to sleep with a woman, she need not be finished with $99.
	To be honest, I would never date any of you.
	You are too shallow as a person.
	We would never date you either.
	Half of us are married.
	Graham, can you give me another chance?
	Grahams, I'm like really desperate for your approval.
	Can you please like slide into my DMs and just try again?
	We're so excited now.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I lost.
	So, so with men, like men will sleep with women that they would never be in a relationship with.
	So that's where women, and you say women need to be discerning.
	Women need to be discerning in terms of, am I like shooting a little bit out of my league here?
	Because dudes will sleep with women that they would never be in a relationship.
	Just off of the looks metric alone, men will sleep with women that, again, they would never consider for a relationship.
	And that's where women can get into trouble where they can get used by men for purely sex.
	So that's, I'm not trying to like dunk on women like, oh, you're not a 10.
	I'm like, no, like have a realistic self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness.
	That way you can maneuver in the dating marketplace without potentially like chasing after these guys who are just using you, just want to use you for sex.
	But if you're not sure, that's where it's at for the guys.
	Sure.
	Is this a female perception or is this a real thing?
	Wait, what do you mean?
	I'm going to say, oh, suspicious.
	Do men is sleeping with women to increase your street value, right?
	So like having sex with one of those hot girls that you would never commit to in your mind, whatever it is, is the purpose of that to raise self-esteem and then your own street value?
	Or is that not real?
	Is that something that women just think men do?
	Wait.
	So you said sleep with the hot girls?
	No, no, no.
	So the point I was.
	No, like, is the purpose of sleeping with those girls that you don't commit to sex aside, right?
	Like, obviously, the sex is a given, right?
	You want it because of the sex, but in addition to the sex, is that like a, oh, this raises my street value?
	Cool.
	Yeah.
	Like.
	So Brian's point is that you tend to sleep or guys will sleep with women who are not as attractive as them.
	Like if, say, I'm a seven and I'll go and sleep with someone who's a five.
	Men will typically do that, but women will not do the opposite way.
	If she is a, women won't do the same.
	So if she's a seven, she will not give a five the time of day, generally speaking.
	Yeah, that's a pretty good rule of thumb.
	Certainly for casual sex.
	What happens?
	Like for casual sex.
	For hookups.
	So exactly, exactly.
	Not for like relationship, considering all the factors.
	Yes, so menu sex.
	Yeah, so men can, like, in addition to just looks, men can bring other things to the table, riz, personality, status, wealth.
	But so for casual sex, women will typically break their rule for who they will sleep with.
	The guy has to be like really attractive.
	Yeah.
	Whereas it's almost the reverse for men.
	They'll like sleep with a girl that they would never be in a relationship with, but she's not going to be physical.
	So what happens if it's the other way around, though?
	Yeah, what happens?
	It happens, but generally, generally, what do you mean if it's the other way around?
	Just asking.
	I've slept with a lot of ugly guys.
	Well, he had great dicks.
	Oh my gosh, the guy hurt my feelings.
	I was like psycho texting him for years.
	And this guy's not hot, but he just like nagged me at the right time at the right age and all.
	Yes, men can make up.
	Yeah, like, you know, and he's like, it takes like a miracle situation.
	I sit there being like, wow, this guy's not attractive.
	Why does this hurt?
	Like, why am I like this from this?
	But so, yeah.
	But what if, what if, what if the girl is just as hot and it's a hookup?
	Yeah, that happens.
	Yeah.
	But, you know.
	Well, so typically in that situation, the woman will push the guy away because she thinks I can obtain this caliber of man that's probably out of my reach.
	So say a seven gets with a seven.
	Generally speaking, since she has seen that men will reach down and have casual sex with somebody who is less attractive than them, well, it gives them the false self-confidence that I can get with somebody who's way above me in the attractiveness arena.
	Do you think men get like that too, or is that just women get like that?
	Like, are you saying that's how men get or that's how women get or that's how both get?
	Well, that's how women get in particular.
	Okay, so do men ever get Delulu like that when they like say a guy like gets out of his league somehow and he like bags this girl who's like way out of his league.
	Is that does that then make him a little Delulu going?
	Like does that do you ever maybe not all guys, but do you ever see guys like that where they're like, oh, yeah, I'm a 10 now?
	Like, does that ever happen with guys, or is that?
	I think most men get slapped in the face with reality today, exactly like to.
	Maybe it'll like he'll, he'll be high on it for like a week or two, but eventually it's gonna be like, ah yeah, that was just like a, but yeah, I do.
	I do agree with you women who like say two tens I'm not saying tens, but two sevenths they hook up and you know it's all fine and dandy.
	But I do agree, women will fuck off.
	Yeah, and then no, it's like.
	You know, once you've got that trophy as a woman, move on.
	I don't trust a guy if he's too hot, and I know men feel the exact same way about women, but it sits same same parallel.
	I don't trust a guy who's too hot, just like how you don't trust a girl who's too hot.
	Well also, there's Nick.
	There's actually they've done some data on this, Nick.
	If you're able to go into the infographics folder, it's so.
	Men and women's assessment of Nick.
	Are you able to get it?
	Infographics tab oh fuck, I'm screwing this up online.
	It's in the infographics tab.
	It's OKC new chart.
	So men and women like.
	Perception of male attractiveness versus female attractiveness.
	Men tend to rate women on a bell curve, whereas women are pretty harsh judges of male physical attractiveness.
	Go ahead, Nick Coo.
	Chart OKC OKC, new chart.
	I would like to respond to everything you said.
	Yeah well, I'll get you to come in here in just a sec.
	You got the chart, Nick?
	So perception of male attractiveness versus female attractiveness, men as rated by women, women as rated by men.
	So women are very harsh judges of physical attractiveness.
	So oh, there's some other really good charts too, but I don't they're, I don't have them saved shit.
	oh so we either rate you a one or a five where guys will rate the middle kind of is that what it's well the bigger thing is that like most women find most men physically unattractive yeah where it's like you're either hot or you're not kind of like that's what that looks like you basically like the vast majority of women think like I think it's something like 80% of men are unattractive.
	Like the vast majority of men will say that 80% of women are attractive.
	Yeah.
	I think Tinder did a study on that.
	How many men swipe the top five, top 10% of men that are getting like all the attention on Tinder?
	Oh man, there's like some really good websites on this, but I can't recall what they are.
	Did you wanted to come in?
	Yeah, so I want to go ahead and start with the first thing that you mentioned about how you were telling this girl, not that she wasn't a 10 out of 10, but I think that, well, when I first saw the video, a lot of women, that could be a little bit of a video.
	Oh, they hated that video.
	No, no, no.
	I was getting dragged.
	Yes, yes.
	I was getting dragged.
	And so to respond to that, I think that they were the woman that said I'm a 10 out of 10.
	She was in survival mode.
	She feels attacked in this space.
	And I think we've made it a comfortable space for us to be real with both of you and with the audience that is watching.
	So the first time that I saw that, I was like, oh my gosh.
	And to be completely honest, I didn't know what the whatever podcast was until that video.
	And I was like, oh my gosh, this man is like so rude with telling her this.
	And I was getting a lot of women kind of like coming up to me and telling me, hey, what do you think about this?
	So I responded to that video without, you know, really knowing the show.
	This was in August, so I didn't know that Candace Owens was going to be here.
	Candace Owens, I'm like a fan.
	And I'll get you guys a link to help.
	And then I'm such a huge fan, Candace Owens.
	But anyway.
	And then secondly, I completely agree with what you're saying about the Delulu is a Solulu, how that's like a new phrase, being Dolulu is a Solulu.
	And I tell my ladies, uh-uh, here, we're smarter than that.
	I actually built something called the list of threes, and I tell them to choose three physical qualities in a man that they need and not want need, because I also agree with you that they're choosing, like, they're so focused on the physical aspect, and that's why they get they, they get what they get.
	A lot of women that are not happy, and I'm like, you need to look past that.
	What is his character?
	And I think that in response to that video, I do agree with you all the way.
	And that's why I'm telling my ladies to armor up with discernment to be smarter.
	All right.
	Here, let me get a couple chats.
	We've got some more things to react to.
	Kyle Kelsey.
	Women don't want a guy working 60 to 70 hours and still making six figures.
	No, from experience, no matter how well you treat them, I know form.
	Experience.
	What kind of forms?
	Spreadsheet, Excel.
	What do we talk about?
	It's not selfish, though.
	Like, it can happen where they don't like it.
	But for me, I would love a man that does.
	It depends.
	And there's a video where I made like, are you capable of being with a wealthy man?
	Because a wealthy man is going to be working.
	And that's why I say women have your own life outside of the man.
	So if you're the type to say, I'm going to sacrifice some money to spend more time with a man, go all for it.
	Quick thing.
	Quick thing.
	I know a lot of men who work like that, and I would not be able to be with a man that works that much.
	Like, I need my man at home.
	I want to leave.
	You need him at home.
	Yeah, I do.
	Like, I just don't.
	Please work from home.
	Sure.
	All right.
	We have Puffy Vegas to every man on earth.
	If a woman asks you how much money she makes, she makes.
	Leave her and block her.
	She does not like you.
	No woman ever asked Chad and Tyrone these questions.
	Is that a racist?
	I was kind of racist, but that's okay.
	What?
	What was it?
	Wait, what was it?
	You made a point to say Chad and Tyrone and not in that in that.
	He's a black man, just saying.
	He's single.
	Yeah.
	Wait, Puffy, Puffy Vegas.
	Yo, are you still in the chat, Puffy?
	She's single and ready to mingle.
	I mean, I'm only mingling, so.
	Okay, there you have it.
	Let's see.
	Or you're not.
	Well, you got your lady friend.
	Oh, she'll join too.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, Puffy, you want a threesome, buddy?
	If that's what you're saying, Puffy, you want a threesome?
	Okay.
	My question is for directly for the woman saying broke men should not have children.
	Is it okay for somebody to say that overweight women should not have children?
	Oh.
	Typically, women should get more over a slightly more, like 20 pounds more overweight to have children.
	Yeah.
	And okay, I thought you didn't.
	Can I speak on this since I am an overweight woman?
	That's not an argument.
	It's not like for me, like, I should probably get a little bit healthier if I was to have a kid because I wasn't that healthy.
	I wasn't eating correctly.
	I was not taking care of my body.
	So if I'm going to put a life in my body, I should probably know what I'm eating and putting into them.
	So with that said, I might be overweight, but I could be eating really healthy.
	So it just depends on your definition of overweight.
	What do you mean?
	Like, right now, for instance, I'm still overweight, but I don't eat carbs.
	I don't eat sugars.
	I don't eat anything processed.
	So if I was to get pregnant right now, which will never happen, if I was to get pregnant, my child would be really well fed and really well hydrated and taken care of by my nourishment skills.
	All right, okay.
	But I am overweight.
	I'm fat.
	I think we should bring the husband.
	He's been waiting.
	He's so excited.
	Wait, patiently.
	He's such a big fan.
	We need to pull up another chair, and then I think maybe what we do is if you scoot over that way, and then we'll just put the chair right next to her.
	We need nobody in here.
	Hold on, let me check if you see.
	What thin chair would be best?
	Thin chair would be best.
	Good sis.
	Okay, hold on.
	So what do you guys think about collateralized debt obligations?
	CDOs.
	What do you guys think about CDOs?
	Like when people get married and then they have to share the debt, no, like, you know, the whole financial crisis, CDOs, collateralized debt obligations.
	No.
	What do you mean?
	Like, what do you mean?
	What exact question is that?
	Oh, there's something in the world of Warcraft related I wanted to ask.
	Oh my gosh, you can't just drop that on us.
	What's the definition of collateral debt?
	Like being awkward while we're in the world.
	The world's done.
	Oh my gosh, I'm like dying downstairs by the way.
	He should be.
	I'm asking.
	Okay, I feel bad for him.
	He's probably freezing.
	He's probably freezing his butt off.
	Sorry, but what's his Dustin, right?
	Dustin.
	Yo, Dustin.
	I'm sorry, dude.
	So question.
	If anybody here would say, I'm a 10, would you, would you knock that down?
	Would you go like, hell no, you're not a 10, bro?
	Put you in your place.
	I would.
	Yes.
	With Spanky's or just... Spanky's?
	Yeah.
	I would just say.
	What do you mean?
	No, I'm just wondering.
	I wouldn't rate the girl, but I'd say, eh, no, you're not a 10.
	That's it.
	I'm not trying to be a dick about it, but no.
	You're not a 10, so.
	Is that your favorite line by chance?
	What's my favorite line?
	That you're not a 10?
	I've heard you say it more today than anyone else.
	Is there anyone that you've seen that is a 10?
	Like, is there like a 10?
	That you've seen a person that's a 10 to you.
	I don't think there's a trial.
	I don't think there's such a thing as a 10.
	You just don't believe in 10.
	There's 9s, I guess.
	There's 9s.
	I feel like 10 is perfect, you know, and nobody's perfect.
	I have a lot of AI.
	A lot of people be a 10.
	Like on a religious basis, don't believe in 10s.
	But like, you know, they're not.
	Well, no, it's just there.
	There certainly have been women that I've seen that I'm like, this woman is amongst the most exceptionally beautiful women I've ever seen.
	There's that.
	But you're never like, that's the 110.
	I finally found her.
	No.
	I've seen CIS minute details.
	Oh, no shit.
	Triggers.
	Yeah, they're perfect.
	Yeah, some of those AI girls, what's the problem?
	Oh, they're unreal.
	Yeah, some of the AI girls are unreal.
	Literally.
	It's fucking insane.
	Watch out.
	And their Riz is so good.
	Their Riz is getting unhinged.
	They're coming for you guys.
	I have to say, like, Tom Cruise is a 10.
	Tom Cruise is a good one.
	He's a handsome guy, but I don't know if he's a 10.
	Isn't he like 5'4?
	He's 5'7 ⁇ .
	Who's your 10 hole?
	Who's my 10?
	You don't even want to know.
	Say it.
	Say who your 10 is.
	It's controversial as fuck.
	Say it.
	Pete Davidson.
	It's worse than that.
	James Frankie.
	Yeah, he's cute.
	He's cute.
	Oh, frick.
	She goes, spring break whenever she's horny.
	Spring break.
	Spring break.
	No, I'm obsessed with spring breakers.
	And it's like his ugliest role.
	Like, James Franco is not hot in this role, but for some reason.
	Yep.
	Wait.
	The husband approaches.
	Where is he?
	I can't see him.
	Is he back here?
	Actually, he men is a 10-2.
	He's warming up.
	Yeah, no.
	Oh, maybe if you're willing to just let them maybe share the mics.
	I'm like, do you want to?
	No, I think it's not.
	I think it's cartoon.
	This?
	Yeah, just if you can share with him.
	Yeah, no problem.
	Oh, my gosh, I'm both bringing punk.
	Oh, here's the.
	Oh, I got those in pink too.
	They're coming.
	The Black Friday.
	Oh, my God.
	Yeah.
	They're really cute.
	Did you see these on the site?
	No, I didn't.
	Wait, where?
	I got 100.
	I paid 100 for them.
	I've gone on sale for 60.
	I feel like I have more.
	I guess while I wait, I can see if I have any other notes.
	Oh, no, they're crocs.
	Yeah, they've got heels on them.
	Oh, they're like terrible.
	Because I'm trying to be your height.
	That's why.
	Good luck.
	I know I'm 5'2.
	Hit me up there.
	Let me see.
	Okay, so I'm trying to think.
	Wait, and maybe we'll get into some of these in the videos.
	Are you against 50-50?
	Who here is against 50-50?
	Like going 50-50.
	I'm against it for certain financials.
	But for me, I won't do it.
	Thanks, Nick.
	Financial?
	Yes, 50-50.
	Against it?
	I'm against it.
	I'm like, I'm for and against.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm for and against.
	Honestly, I think the woman should pay for everything.
	Of course, honestly, that's like the most, that's the most alpha fucking thing.
	So, wait, question.
	If you were doing nothing, fucking alpha.
	Okay, but what if you're doing nothing?
	You get to stay home and do that.
	And I get to surf, and the woman, she has to go out and toil in the fields.
	But how much worth do you think you would feel?
	Like, I'm not saying how much worth that anyone see you.
	How worthy do you feel as a person sitting at home for years on end depending on a woman?
	As a man, growing up the way you were, how do you feel?
	This is the ultimate level of the societal programming when it comes to elevating being a wage slave over all else.
	I don't think, even for both men and women, a challenger approaches.
	I don't think that the ultimate ultimate shit, what's the term?
	The ultimate.
	Oh my god, it's been a long fucking episode.
	I'm sorry, it really is.
	The ultimate sense of purpose is making money or a career or a job.
	Like, to me, that's not.
	But if your wife doesn't hear of it, you're going to be at home.
	So yeah, I'm going to kick up my feet.
	She can come home and cook.
	You'll be divorced.
	Like, real fast.
	I'm going to just surf ring kong.
	We got some great surf spots in Santa Barbara.
	I'm just going to surf.
	It's going to be.
	No, I'm being a bit facetious.
	I think I should also say that I'm not against 70-30, 20-80, 90%.
	Well, let's have the husband introduce himself.
	Welcome, welcome to the show, man.
	Hey, everybody.
	My name's Dustin.
	Can we just have you pop your hat off?
	Just cast a bit of.
	If you want, throw it backwards, just the bill.
	Is it the bill, the front part?
	It casts shadows.
	Sideways, goodness.
	Oh, man.
	The punk rock, sideways hat.
	Yes.
	That's how you do it.
	It just casts a bit of shadow on the eyes.
	Oh, okay.
	Backwards, backwards is the most important thing.
	I mean, do you remember about that?
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	Channel my channel my glasses.
	Yeah.
	We have some in the studio.
	Okay, so tell us a little bit about yourself, Dustin.
	Your age.
	I'm 25.
	Just recently got out of the military.
	Am I good with the mic?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Been bouncing back and forth, trying to learn new skills and jobs.
	And I've been in the process for going on the police force for about a year now.
	Should be going in in January.
	What branch of the military were you in?
	I was in the Navy.
	In the Navy.
	Okay, thanks for your service, man.
	Thank you for your service.
	Were you enlisted or officer?
	Enlisted.
	Enlisted.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	And I'm trying to think what else I had.
	So you met Carla.
	Met Carla.
	Tell us about the first meeting.
	How did you guys meet?
	We actually met on a dating app.
	I got real bored with Tinder, so I switched over to Bumble and let the girl talk to me first.
	Okay.
	The good stuff.
	And then I actually invited her out for drinks, but it turns out she's allergic to alcohol.
	That was the first green flag that I got from her.
	So we went for coffee and just got some coffee, walked out on the beach, talked about our life stories.
	And then I was like, you hungry?
	And she went out to Denny's with me.
	And I got to meet her family on the first date, actually.
	It was very impromptu.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	And so you guys met on Bumble, it sounded like.
	And actually, there's a video on this.
	So why don't we pull up the, I think it's the next video that we have.
	That's how she met her husband.
	Okay.
	Go ahead and we'll play it.
	Part three as to how I met my husband.
	From the first coffee meetup, I knew he wasn't, but that didn't mean that was going to cancel all my other dates.
	We are believers of rotational dating here, and we're single until we're not.
	What did my husband have to do in order to get my full attention?
	I have to get exclusivity.
	After a coffee meetup, he did invite me on an actual date, and we both knew that we were talking to different people.
	Because if you're on the apps, you just know they pumped multiple people.
	But of course, my husband wanted another date.
	He was very insistent because he knew that I had an option.
	Wait.
	Again.
	It happened again.
	Can you put it?
	It was a bit fast too, maybe 1.25x speed.
	Part 3.
	Oh my goodness.
	Oh my God.
	Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever drops to follow drop is a prime sub if you have one and be sure to subscribe to Mason's OnlyFans account while you're at it.
	You will be seeing nothing.
	Yes, yes.
	It's just open for you.
	Do you guys think you get nothing from it?
	Do you guys think he'd make good money on money on OF?
	He would.
	He would.
	I think you wouldn't be able to deal with how many times they're like, can we just see you lose your virginity?
	But the thing is, I think every day you're going to get, I will pay you X amount of dollars all day.
	Yeah, you could do anything.
	Stop a bidding option.
	Wait, Holly.
	Yeah.
	Mason.
	I'd like to broker something here.
	Oh, no.
	My fee is 30%.
	Wow.
	She has an OnlyFans.
	You're a virgin.
	Yeah.
	Could go to Vegas.
	You could get married.
	It would be legit.
	Totally legal.
	Totally, totally.
	Got it.
	I mean, is he Jewish?
	Is he Jewish?
	Yeah, I gotta say.
	You only fucking married.
	I don't only fuck Jewish guys, but I only try to marry a Jewish guy.
	And he's saving himself for a very special situation.
	And so it's a good idea.
	Would you do it then?
	Would you do it?
	Do you want to join the tribe, Mason?
	Mason, do you want to join the tribe?
	I hate to let you down, Brian.
	It's not going to happen.
	Yeah.
	I'm kidding.
	It was a good idea, though.
	It was a good idea.
	It was a high-quality idea.
	To be honest, the woman in the Laitaqua Marine shirt with the two leafs on her neck is the most beautiful out of all of you.
	Thank you for that.
	Okay, thank you, Grahams.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	Nick, were you able to get that video going?
	She's like, Yeah, go ahead.
	Actual date.
	And we both knew that we were talking to different people.
	Because if you're on the apps, you just know that you're talking to multiple people.
	But of course, my husband wanted another date.
	He was very insistent because he knew that I had options.
	But he remembered something.
	He remembered my work schedule.
	He remembered what time I got off.
	He remembered what days I was off.
	So you can bet that this man was asking me if I was busy or if I was free after 6 p.m.
	And he knew my days off.
	I don't know why I told him my days off, but he knew because he knew my days off, he would always call first dips.
	After our first date, I would always receive a text message at 5:45 from this man asking me, What are we feeling today?
	Chinese, sushi, Italian?
	Every single time he wouldn't miss.
	I did have a part-time hostess job.
	My full-time job was managing rental properties.
	Let me rephrase that: leasing rental properties.
	So I worked on weekends and he was off on weekends, but this man took any opportunity to spend time with me.
	So he would always bring me lunch during lunch hours for me.
	Anytime I said I'm not available after work, he would be like, oh, but you're available for lunch, right?
	What do you want for lunch?
	It was getting spicy.
	And the one thing I loved about this man is that he would do anything in his power to give me what I wanted.
	This one time I mentioned to him that I wanted to go to Julian and it's like a small town near San Diego.
	That I told him I wanted to go to Julian and I was going to go to Julian on my day off.
	And obviously, since he was in the military, it could take days or weeks to get days off approved.
	I don't know how this man would do it, but he would take me wherever I wanted to go, get fast approvals just to take me wherever I wanted to go.
	The third date, we were eating sushi, and he looked at me and he told me, You're my wife, and I'm your husband, and I will prove it to you.
	I have a year to prove it to you that I am your husband.
	How sexy is that?
	Like, put yourself in my position where you just met this hot, sexy, southern man who's extremely masculine with a thick accent.
	He's telling you this.
	But you ladies already know that I think talk is cheap, so I did not believe him.
	I was like, Yeah, right, prove it.
	And well, here we are today.
	And because men also have standards, he said, Hey, I want to continue pursuing you, but this needs to be exclusive.
	So I agreed to exclusivity by this point.
	He had already shown me all his finances, his credit score, how much money he was making, how much money he had saved, his plans, and everything.
	So I felt like it was safe to be exclusive with him.
	What made him extremely persistent to me was the fact that I had a physical boundary.
	He says that that drove him mad.
	More interested in me because I had standards.
	And if I was willing to protect myself in that way, I was going to be able to protect our family and our relationship in the same way.
	Points being: never lower your standards for anybody.
	You are single until you're not.
	You are single until married.
	Ladies, be wise.
	Period.
	Okay.
	So there's a lot there.
	There's a lot there.
	I'm interested in the like single until married thing.
	Yeah.
	My mom needs to say it.
	100%.
	So, okay, so hold on.
	Wait.
	You're me.
	Wait, question.
	So you guys met.
	Were you out of the military now, but you were in the military when you guys had met?
	Is that right?
	I was in the military when we met.
	Gotcha.
	Were you in the barracks or?
	I was living out in town with a couple buddies.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, I see.
	And so is that a pretty accurate assessment of the meet, the first meet?
	Oh, yeah.
	I think I told her mom first that a couple years ago.
	Nickelodeon donated $100.
	Welcome, dude.
	How much do you make?
	Are you allowed to have children in your wife's?
	Your wife's dick.
	Do you want to shift?
	I'm under your wife's daughter.
	Wait, baby.
	Baby, do you think you're under a dictatorship?
	I do not think I'm under a dictatorship.
	I run my household.
	Okay.
	She just makes the food and points me in the right direction.
	Okay.
	Classy answer.
	Wait, so I had to ask you a question, but it just slipped my mind before that chat came in.
	Single until married.
	Oh, single until married.
	Or no, you had asked him some.
	Wait, hold on.
	I'm trying to remember what it was.
	Finances, credit card, and savings.
	Oh, on the okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So on the third date.
	Oh, there's a, hold on.
	There's a.
	Did you mention like the third date about the finances, credit score?
	Was that in this video?
	No, it wasn't in another one.
	I said that I was exclusive because he had shown me his background.
	Okay, I must have my notes here a little bit out of order.
	No, it was in that video.
	You mentioned it.
	I mentioned it, but I didn't say what happened on the third day.
	Oh, but you mentioned he on the third date showed you finances, credit score, how much money he was making, how much money he had saved, his plans.
	So only safe to be exclusive then.
	So, no.
	For you?
	Yeah, so I think we were both pretty open, and we both were rotational dating at the time.
	And I was just, the reason why I encourage a lot of women to rotational date, and men too, and men, I encourage both men and women to rotational date is to see, you know, your options and really get to see who really is putting their best foot forward to win your heart, both for both men and women.
	And, well, Justin was just extremely persistent, and he spoke my language.
	We both wanted the same thing.
	So I think, and because he wanted my full attention, I think he knew that finances was a big, it was important because we both wanted marriage.
	And in marriage, finances is a really big, big, big hot topic.
	So I think that, well, the way that I took it, he was extremely proud of where he was in his life, and he just showed me everything.
	He didn't have anything to hide.
	Gotcha.
	And it sounds like you were both doing the rotational dating thing, which sounds like just means dating other people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Did you have any issues with that?
	Did like that, because I mean, it seemed like you really, really liked her.
	Was it to some degree upsetting that she had, she was dating other men?
	Or was it you're just like, eh, that's how dating is.
	Did you kind of accept it?
	Well, the moment she looked at me and said, should we be exclusive?
	I said, yes.
	Yeah.
	Let's be exclusive.
	I don't want to see other people.
	This is what I want.
	I knew what I wanted.
	Gotcha.
	That was it.
	Gotcha.
	But early on, when it sounded like perhaps you were both upfront with each other, that you were doing the rotational dating, was that at all?
	Well, I suppose you were doing it too.
	So maybe you felt like I'm doing it.
	She's doing it.
	This is whatever.
	But I mean, was it upsetting to hear that she was rotational dating?
	Well, I knew she wasn't being promiscuous when she was rotational dating.
	So it's not really that big of a deal.
	I knew she wasn't kissing nobody.
	Our first date, she didn't even kiss me.
	Like, hell, I tried.
	You tried?
	Yeah.
	I even tried to hold her hand.
	Well, actually, I tried to, she was walking across the street and I held her hand to keep her from getting run over by a car.
	And she said, I'm not holding your hand.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	So a car is honking at her.
	Wait, so did you know you went for the grab and she was like.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Okay.
	I knew this was a different breed of woman.
	Oh, okay.
	I came from a long line of this is easy.
	Okay, next.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	And were you, wait, hold on.
	Because I feel like the whole rotational dating thing, like, because I didn't know coming onto the show that you had waited until marriage to have sex and that you were virgin.
	So when I think of rotational dating, I think like they're sleeping with other people.
	So that, I mean, I think that's a little, certainly gives me a different view on it.
	Because I would certainly, like, I wouldn't even, if I was, I wouldn't even pursue a girl that was sleeping with other men.
	Exactly.
	So that's why I tell my ladies to rotational date, but rotational dating doesn't mean to be intimate.
	I'm like, ah, spend time with each other.
	Like, let's go back to how it was where you're just trying to find connection to see if it works out.
	And that's why there's this big thing on like coffee dates, but that's why I don't say coffee dates, I say coffee meetups.
	So you can get to know, you know, preview to the movie.
	And it's a new form of dating.
	Like you can get, you can talk to multiple men.
	I want women to talk to multiple men, just you know, sleeping and kissing.
	That should be exclusive.
	I talk about girlfriend privileges versus wife privileges, you know, dating privileges, you know, versus the other ones.
	And I think men should also have standards.
	Did you have something?
	Yeah, so I definitely agree on that.
	And when I got single from my ex, we were together 11 years.
	I was 19.
	He was 10 years older.
	When I got out of that marriage relationship, well, we were engaged.
	I had no idea how to date or what to do.
	I was so young when I met him.
	I have hardly dated before.
	But I totally agree because me and my husband now, we had a long-distance relationship.
	I lived in Sweden, he lived here.
	So we spend a lot of time just talking on Skype and on FaceTime and texting.
	And I think when you do that, you get to know that person so well because you're not scared of telling that person everything.
	Like, listen, I have debt, I have this, you know, I have this, I have that.
	And he was like, I have this and I don't have that, but I have this, you know?
	So I just think it makes it so much stronger when you actually have those conversations instead of going in a date and jumping in bed.
	Interesting.
	And on the rotational dating thing, I disagree with you a little bit.
	Well, you do make some valid points with it.
	However, my view is, and my own advice to men is, where I suppose it comes out of conflict with your advice, is that as a guy, I want a woman's undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	So once I come into a woman's life, I want to be the only guy that she has eyes for immediately.
	Like, because if even if she's not having sex with those other men, if she's talking to other dudes, me personally, and I certainly, if men, if you have the leverage to do this, I recommend you do it.
	But if she's like a fence sitter, like she's, oh, I don't know if I'm a, I don't want to be a maybe for a girl.
	Like, I want immediately that like genuine, just immediacy with her interest in me.
	And I want it undivided.
	So what I would say is you have to win it.
	And that's what I tell my ladies, win it.
	You have to work for it.
	You have to work for my attention.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Women lose.
	Again, I am the table.
	I am the table.
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	I'll get into that a little bit more.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So, and I think like my husband got my undivided attention, you know, after a couple dates because like he won it.
	He won it.
	So I think that it's valid to want that.
	Yeah.
	But to, you know, you have to win her over because then, again, like women lose.
	She's spending the more time she invests in you, she's losing more.
	And if she's not, if you're not proposing or you're not suggesting marriage, again, she loses.
	So I think that totally valid.
	I totally see why you would want her full attention, but you got to earn it, boy.
	Yeah.
	So totally true.
	I just think you can.
	That doesn't help anybody.
	That might work with women who don't really recognize their worth, but women who know their worth and women who like know the type of life that they want, it's not going to be expensive.
	Well, I think you can know your worth and still not rotational date.
	Like you can go one person at a time.
	I'm only going to invest time in you.
	Okay.
	There are these things.
	Okay.
	Morals don't align, whatever.
	I'm not going to see you anymore.
	Go to the next person.
	So I can see that working.
	I don't know about the like having three guys on my roster and I'm going to let them vie for my attention and the best man wins.
	So I'm not.
	I don't think that's a super long-term thing though.
	Like I don't think they're in this dance for like, you know, months on end.
	I think it's like a, okay, like we dated for two months or for two weeks.
	I figured out after two dates, not into it.
	You know what I mean?
	And I think, I think if other men are fine with it, that's fine.
	But what I can say for me personally, if I come into a woman's life, even the first time meeting, and she's telling me, hey, I've had this, I've actually had this happen.
	I went on a date with a girl.
	I met her on Hinge.
	I think dating apps are a huge L, generally speaking, because that's where you often encounter people that are dating multiple people.
	And look, that's kind of the way the dating world is.
	I personally don't think it's a, I don't agree with it, but I went on this date with a girl.
	She had just downloaded the app.
	She told me, like, oh, I just downloaded it this past weekend.
	And we went out on a Wednesday or something.
	And she had told me she'd already been on two dates and that she had three dates planned for the weekend.
	Instantly lost interest.
	I was like, okay, like, I'm not going to be like number three in like this.
	Like, I'm not interested.
	And that's fine.
	And that's totally different.
	Yeah, and I don't think you object to that.
	But what I'm saying is, like, if this whole rotational dating thing, I don't think, like, I think in some, there's some pros to it, but I also think like there are some men, if they're aware, and I think honesty is very important.
	If you're like saying, hey, just letting you know, like, I'm dating other people right now.
	Like, I think a lot of men are, good men are going to be like, okay.
	Yeah.
	Well, he was, well, he was a good man.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	No, I understand, but let me go ahead and address one point.
	So the reason why I say it's a rotational date to women specifically is because women get attached.
	We're emotional.
	Get attached.
	I like women who get attached.
	Get attached.
	Well, I'm the right guy.
	I might not like the right guy.
	Yeah, no, here's the thing.
	Get attached, man.
	I wish I could say that we could do that and we should do that.
	But the thing is, we've been mistreated and in a way taken advantage of because we've done that before.
	So the solution that I proposed was like, why don't you just talk to multiple men?
	You're just talking.
	You're just getting to know each other.
	Go to a coffee meetup first.
	Because women, we're emotional beings.
	Like, the first thing that we want to do is to get to know you even more.
	And what happens?
	You prolong that into two weeks, into three months, into six months, into a year.
	And then there's no ring.
	So to avoid all of that, because another thing, I coach women who date for marriage.
	I don't coach women who are just dating to mess around.
	So I think that that's the main reason why I suggest that.
	And again, it might not be like a cup of tea, and that's fine.
	But there are still, I don't want to tell, you know, I do want to let women know that there are good men who are going to be like, okay, well, if she treats me this way, that she's not letting me hold her hand.
	She's not kissing me.
	She's not being promiscuous.
	She's getting to know me.
	She's doing that with other men.
	But I think you're like, to some degree, you're a bit of an outlier.
	Like you are, because you said you're a virgin, right?
	And I think I already mentioned this is that if you're a virgin as a woman, I think you have far more leverage and negotiating power to actually get that sort of treatment from men.
	But if you're a woman who slept with 20, 30, 40 guys and you're like, okay, now my new standard, and look, as a woman, at any given point, if you want to change up how you move, that's 100% your prerogative and men should respect that.
	However, men are going to look at that and just say, that's not the type of person I want to date.
	Like if a girl, for example, for me, it's like, okay, you've had, you've slept with 30 previous people and now you're coming to me and like, you want me to wait three months or six months or till marriage to have sex with you.
	I'm just like, okay.
	Why do you think we married so fast?
	What's that?
	Why do you think we got married so fast?
	For the hello.
	No.
	Hello.
	I don't, no, but I know what you mean.
	I know what you mean.
	I know what you mean.
	I get it.
	Well, I'm sure you guys got married for other reasons.
	Like you care about each other, you love each other, finances, close personal goals.
	Yeah, the burning of the people.
	Obviously, when sex is not like clouding your judgment, you can make those decisions.
	Like you have all of those conversations, all the difficult conversations immediately so that you know, okay, is this person worth my time?
	Like I'm going to ask them all of the hard questions so I don't have to waste two years of my life sleeping with this person, getting connected with them, and then all of a sudden I figure out, oh, wait, you're pro-abortion?
	I'm not okay with that.
	Yeah, no, and to add to what you were saying about being the outlier, to add to what you were saying about being the outlier, that's the thing.
	I coach women who are virgins still and who want marriage and it's like it's really hard for them.
	And there's a lot of women who resonate with me because I did the whole thing.
	Purity ring, like I, you know, I waited, I got married, I gave, you know, I'm traditional at home.
	And there's a lot of women who want that.
	And that's why I think that my advice goes, you know, specifically, I cater to those women, but they still exist, guys.
	So please, like, I'm asking and urging us to like have specific standards to raise these men up to, you know, get better.
	But I'm sure you're also, I mean, you're, there's probably women who are watching you who are not virgins, who have double-digit body counts, 10, 20, 30.
	Absolutely.
	And I mean, I'm assuming that despite this, you're probably still advising these women to yeah, because here's the thing.
	So I was raised by a single mom, okay?
	So my mom was, and I, I, I love, I love my mom, but I was raised by a single mom and I saw her get everything.
	She has everything.
	She has a dream, the dream life that she wants, her own house, the dream car.
	She has everything she wants.
	And she was a single mother.
	It just depends on the type of man that, you know, the man that you choose.
	If you choose wisely, you get everything.
	But that's where we're struggling of choosing wisely.
	I do have to say, like, go back to women being going on feelings and emotional.
	Me personally, I don't go a lot on looks.
	Of course, the first time you see a person, yes, you like the way a person looks, but I kind of need to interact with the person to see if we have a connection.
	Like, do we get along?
	Can I talk to you?
	Can we talk about things?
	And if silence is awkward, then maybe we don't really work.
	Like, I, so dating would be important for me to, you know, go for coffee and talk to these people.
	I mean, you can FaceTime, you can do a lot of different things just to get to know each other because you might be hot as fuck, but you might be a really not close, you know.
	And that's totally fine.
	And this, I think this is just a difference of approach that my personal view is I think typically it, you know, I think as a guy, my view, because I think men should have much higher standards, preferences, and boundaries when it comes to this.
	My view is if that you, the woman you're pursuing, her romantic attention is divided.
	My view is that she ain't the like, but I lose interest.
	I met you.
	Like, how are like, they're supposed to get single to meet you?
	I don't like getting single.
	You're going to only date.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	You said you were single, but you said you were single and you're dating three guys and you're like sleeping with all of them.
	I mean, it's more, it's not, I wouldn't, the way you make it sound, it sounds like, okay, that's what you said.
	I know, but it's not like, it's like, I saw my friend in New York last month, right?
	And then I come back.
	Like, it's like, I'm not.
	I wouldn't date you.
	I wouldn't date you because of that.
	I'm not trying to date you.
	No, I know, but I'm saying, like, I do have to say, but I'm not going to date anybody.
	I'm not interested in your type anyway.
	Well, I'm just like, yeah, no, no, no, no, you're you.
	Like, on a physical basis, like, we are a physical basis.
	Yeah, purely physical basis, you're great.
	I mean your genre of a man, not you.
	My genre.
	You mean white people?
	Yeah, you're people, yeah.
	Oh, my God.
	I'm white people.
	You people.
	Do you want to bring it back?
	Yeah, bring it back.
	Bring it back.
	So, wait, wait.
	Are you saying, but you're talking about her?
	You don't date white guys?
	I do.
	No, I don't.
	I just think she dates twice, so that's why she's laughing.
	We're talking about the caliber of men and the way that you view.
	We don't agree with your thoughts, so we're not going to date someone that has the same different thoughts, I guess.
	What thoughts of mine do you disagree with?
	Oh, man.
	I don't have that list of time.
	Come on, come on.
	Let's hear it.
	Just give me one or two or three.
	Give it to me.
	I mean, well, for one, you crossed my friend's boundaries.
	So that was the big difference.
	Oh my God, bro.
	I crossed her boundaries.
	Yes, she said no how many times.
	To me, that's an indicator of who you are.
	No, Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Hold up, hold up.
	She's not.
	Maybe right now, but I know her.
	She's a woman.
	She's a bad person.
	She's a bad person.
	She's got her boundaries crossed.
	You got to get your boundaries crossed against you, and I get it, but it is what it is.
	Oh my God, you guys, you guys really want to like, no, but the way you're framing it is incredibly disingenuous because you're trying to suggest, because you're, you're trying to say, because she said, no, are you suggesting that I am a grapist because of that?
	Like, that's what I know like.
	That's the way women use shaming language to try to pathologize men.
	And I'm not allowed to say.
	And she kept saying she didn't want to talk about it.
	She kept saying no.
	There were three other women who had to interject and stop you, and you still got mad at all us.
	Okay.
	That's my point, is that she said no.
	That's it.
	First off, it was not like constant no.
	She said no.
	And then I asked it like four or five times.
	And then, no, hold on.
	Yes.
	And then stop.
	And then I asked for, well, what about a range?
	And she said no.
	And then I look, I don't recall the exact verbatim back and forth that we had, but then we moved on to somebody else.
	And then I went back to her asking if there was somebody had provided an additional cont or I forgot exactly, but what's that?
	A range.
	Someone provided a range.
	Oh, someone had provided range.
	I went back.
	Bro, it's a fucking conversation about dating.
	Like, hello?
	And of course, I'm going to put, I'm going to.
	I'm going to give you an example.
	So I did.
	That's the type of man that we wouldn't date.
	We wouldn't date someone who asked us over and over and over and we said no.
	Okay, this is.
	Yeah, but you're really like trying to paint it in the most unflattering light.
	I'm not talking about this situation.
	That's why I brought it up.
	I'm not talking about any other situation.
	Bro, y'all are really triggered.
	Y'all are so triggered.
	Yes.
	Yes, because you crossed a boundary.
	Yes, I'm going to get sugar.
	Crossed a boundary.
	Yes.
	A boundary.
	Yes.
	If a woman says no, can I just say, okay, no, no, no.
	Do you guys chat?
	Do you hear what she's doing?
	You're trying to paint it in this most unflattering, bad light, bad faith way as possible.
	If a woman says no, you stop.
	You're trying to paint me as like some, like some like a grapist, basically, because I asked her a follow-up question and I pushed back a little bit because she said that body count shouldn't matter.
	So of course, we're in the midst of a debate and a conversation, and you're trying to paint me in this totally egregious way because we're in the middle of a debate and a conversation.
	Of course, I'm the host of the show.
	I'm going to push back.
	out of here with no that's so bad thing with multiple people at the same time your lady parts are literally a sewer at this point this guy's not a doctor Give me another ball of her who's infested skin.
	I'd actually like to add, so I just met my, so I'm a designer, contrary to all this, and I just met my interior design hero named Melanie Rose from How to Build a Sex Room on Netflix.
	And you would think this woman, who is a famous designer of sex rooms, would be very happy to share about what led her to being interested in sex rooms.
	And one would think maybe this lady has her own sex room.
	And this lady has, this show got huge on Netflix.
	She gets recognized everywhere.
	She's like a cute Mary Poppins type lady.
	And when you ask her, so Melanie, what's in your sex room?
	She responds, that's private, and I don't share it with anybody.
	She has an entire show called How to Build a Sex Room, and this lady will not discuss her sex with her.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, we are.
	Yeah, so we are on a podcast where we're talking about dating and dating topics.
	You asked specifically about one thing and wouldn't get off of the body count question, though.
	Like, what is my body count?
	We lingered on it for like three seconds.
	Yeah, so it was.
	I can't wait for this to be a little bit more difficult.
	Okay, so it was, it was.
	I can't wait to go back.
	It was lingering.
	Okay, there were a couple pushes.
	It was a minute or two, but like, this is part of having a conversation.
	Like, the conversational body.
	Like, sometimes people are going to push back on what you're saying.
	Yeah.
	Like, especially if we're having, if we're on a platform where we're going to disagree on certain things, people are going to push back on what you say.
	So you're allowed to get triggered.
	You're allowed to get offended, but you can't accuse the host or whoever is asking you those questions.
	You don't care about me.
	You are.
	You are like, there is essay going on.
	You're acting like a grapist.
	Stuff like that.
	You can't be making those accusations when you come onto a platform super bad.
	That's no one I want to do very hard.
	No, no, no.
	No, what I was saying.
	I'm not saying obviously.
	So I gave it.
	He goes, why wouldn't you date under my umbrella, me, whatever?
	That was why I wouldn't.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	No, it's not, but the reason.
	I wasn't saying that's what you do to everyone.
	I'm saying that display of behavior for me is a sign and something I would never entertain.
	That's my choice.
	That's my preference.
	I mean, yeah, but you're trying, again, you're trying to paint it in the most unflattering, bad light.
	That's how I feel.
	Then that's how I feel.
	Right, but as the host of the podcast, I have a conversational burden and duty.
	Like I'm playing devil's advocate on certain things.
	I'm pushing back.
	Like I'm trying to kind of, I do dig on this show, but like that's part of the format of the show.
	I mean, he asked me to sell my virginity to me.
	And also to you.
	And just like, we were very important.
	I mean, I don't even appreciate your virginity.
	I'm sorry he did that to you, but yeah.
	Oh my goodness.
	I mean, goddamn it.
	I mean, you did ask me for my body count when you felt offended by me.
	So I mean.
	Oh, that's actually a very good point.
	Wait, who was the one who asked for your body count?
	Wow, that's actually, it's kind of interesting.
	Yeah.
	You didn't really answer me either, though.
	Yeah, because I'm not going to speak about my sex life.
	Right.
	And that was the point I was trying to make that not all women want to share about their body count.
	So thank you for helping me with that.
	Look, the whole thing stems from the reason I pushed back is because you said that body count isn't a big deal.
	It doesn't matter.
	And so like it would occur to me logically that.
	And you don't want to answer because of a man.
	Maybe I'm seriously dating one of the guys that I'm seeing and maybe he's watching and I don't want him to share.
	I'm just not married, so I'm not flexing my husband, right?
	It's like we all got reasons.
	Go ahead.
	I just want to touch on that romantic part you said that the dating, like the I guess we could come back.
	What?
	Yeah, I just want to come back to that.
	Being as a woman romantically involved with other men, if she was like dating other men besides you, women don't really get romantically involved like that on the get-go.
	They're just seeing guys as friends and seeing maybe there is something there.
	But I personally, if I went on a date on the first date, I don't get romantically involved in love or like, oh my God, I'm going to spend my time with you and then go to the next guy and say the same thing.
	You know, if I meet the right person.
	That's because women have an abundance mindset.
	But when you do, like, here's the thing, right?
	When you encounter women, because okay.
	I think most men's experience when it comes to dating women is women naturally have an abundance mindset because women's sexual and romantic optionality is orders of magnitude superior to men's.
	Like most men have very few options.
	Most men can't be going on like taking that, like an average girl, like we talked about earlier, an average girl if she was so inclined, could it's very easy for a woman to be a slut.
	But an average girl could have a new date every single day of the week.
	Whereas an average guy, take dating apps, for example, he's lucky to get one date a month.
	That's even then, that's but that's like a woman has you know, she will probably have the decency to say, no, I don't want to sleep with you.
	If like me personally, if I don't feel your vibe or I don't, you know, get along with you romantically where we, you know, we have a good time and we vibe, yeah, I won't sleep with you.
	Okay, but so just to finish my point on that, so my position as somebody who's had plenty of experience dealing with low interest women, kind of fence sitter women, women with like medium interest, you know, fence sitters, and also who's had experience with women who have demonstrated very high levels of interest.
	For me, there's no going back anymore.
	I'm not dealing with low interest women anymore.
	I've had women with really high interest.
	I totally agree.
	And I mean, it's very annoying to meet somebody you like and that person, it's just like you don't know.
	Like, it's like, I'm on this leg or this.
	What are we doing?
	That's the worst.
	I just stopped talking to a guy who made me feel like I can't tell if you like me or hate me.
	So I'm just going to stop talking to you because I don't know where I stand in this, right?
	So I totally get where you're coming from.
	But unfortunately, I think for the vast majority of men, because to some degree, because of my, you know, my online presence, and I think women also feel this because women, you'll get contacted by men and follow your social media.
	You never know what the person is.
	But like, there are definitely women that will pursue you and will demonstrate a really high level of interest.
	So, and I've even had that before I got involved in social media.
	But like, there's, once you've had that, for me, there's just, I don't, I'm not going to deal with low interest women.
	I mean, I've met, I've met guys who I think are super attractive.
	And like, oh my God, this is the hottest dude ever.
	And then you hang out and it's like, cringe?
	You know, and the other way around, like, not the best looking on a picture, but then you hang out and it's like awesome.
	The best ever.
	So, you know, and just, and I know you want to come in here in just a sec, Carla, but my view is there's like this whole thing about, and I think, Carla, you actually have a video on this is like playing hard to get or whatever.
	A woman who plays hard to get quickly becomes hard to want.
	So for me, like, I'm not playing that game.
	Oh, okay.
	Like, you're not being.
	There was this.
	Were you on?
	I don't know if you were on that show.
	There was a girl who was like, one of the ladies was talking about how this guy was like total simp, and he'd sent 25 love letters to this woman.
	She never responded.
	And then he stopped.
	And then she's like, got back in touch with him.
	Oh, where's my.
	I was like, bro, I ain't romantic, by the way.
	Women should not, women need to be accountable and not do that either.
	How old are you?
	34.
	Okay.
	So the women that I mainly coach, they're in their early 20s, right?
	So they're going to be talking to men that are also in their early 20s.
	At the age of 34, you have a lot of more wisdom, a lot of more experience than most younger men, you know, in the dating scene.
	So what I've noticed, because this is the way that I've lived all my life and the way that the women in my life have lived, it's be hard to get.
	Let him win you over.
	Be a lady.
	Let him pursue you, right?
	And so to some men, maybe not you, but to the men that I've attracted before, they seem to love it.
	And they seem to, you know, really not just find it entertaining, but like, oh my gosh, like this is, I'm working.
	You value what you work for, right?
	And so maybe to you and to a lot of people, that's not the case because you already kind of like ran out of that because you see it as a game, which is totally valid.
	But we also have to go back into concept, the context as to why I say be hard to get.
	Again, I'm protecting a specific group of women who are, you know, is still in, you know, it's still in high school, 17 or no, no, no, no.
	I know she's 22.
	I know, bro.
	But you said, you said, I wish I could have gone back in time in high school and would have told myself, you know, X, Y, Z.
	So that's who I'm speaking to.
	So in a way, I'm protecting these women from putting themselves in unsafe, you know, relationships.
	Well, you can still be interested in somebody and not play hard to get.
	Yeah.
	Oh, sorry.
	So let's go.
	What's hard to get, first of all?
	Like, what's hard to get?
	Okay, so if you're like, I'm not going to kiss you until like we're exclusive, that's hard to get.
	So you are barring certain things from this man because you're not exclusive.
	So then I'm not going to have sex with you until we're married.
	I think that's being hard to get.
	Now, if you're refusing to give him attention and like that's how you're playing hard to get, I don't want to have anything to do with that.
	Do you see yourself as hard to get because you don't want to have sex before marriage?
	Or do you just explain it?
	This is my religious belief.
	Well, so I think I'm hard to get because I have all of these.
	Yeah, so I have these boundaries.
	I'm not going to have sex before marriage.
	It's not a bad thing, actually.
	Yeah, exactly.
	No, yeah, I don't think you think it is.
	But yeah, there are all of these physical boundaries as well as emotional boundaries that I'll set up and say this only comes with commitment in being exclusive or in marriage.
	My husband was hard to get, by the way.
	And I had to for two years.
	Sure.
	And last, I mean, I do want to move on so we can't linger on this too long.
	My just personal view on being hard to get, again, I already said it, but if a woman plays hard to get, she quickly becomes hard to want.
	That's my view.
	You don't want her more?
	Just to see if you can?
	No.
	I'm just like, I'm just wondering, you know.
	She's not really warm to me.
	Okay, goodbye.
	Because some of them are.
	I don't want to waste my time.
	I don't want to feel played either.
	Like, when guys feel games, they just feel like they're going to get played.
	And so when things, even if it's not a game and it just reminds them of the game, I agree.
	I agree.
	100%.
	I think I'm very direct.
	I'm very blunt.
	I'm very straightforward.
	I like you.
	You like me.
	Cool.
	Let's go.
	I'm the same way.
	I think when she means hard to get is like, she's still going to show you interest, but you're just not going to get everything all at once.
	I think that's what she means by that.
	So what I'm going to get, so like what I do give, you know, before the exclusivity is like that attention.
	Like, I'm going to give you attention.
	I'm going to save time for you.
	I'm going to say yes to the dates because that's me showing interest.
	So I'm glad that we established what we think hard to get is.
	Because I think when most people hear hard to get, it's usually, okay, I'm going to withhold interest.
	And I'm going to not respond to them.
	I'll leave them on red for like a day.
	Wait, can we pull up next video?
	Next video, Nick.
	No, no.
	Exactly, yeah.
	No one here has time to be like that.
	I don't have time.
	One sec, guys.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I could start doing to check if he's husband material or not is by asking this one question.
	If there were a fight to break out in the middle of a grocery store or in the middle of an event, what type of man would he be?
	Would he be the one to pull out his phone to record?
	Or would he be the man to try to fix it?
	I think probably another video played.
	It's okay, just fix it.
	You're going to have to unmute it just to see which other video started playing all randomly.
	By the way, you can close out the tabs for all the previous videos because that could be overloading the computer a little bit.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Can you pull that one back up?
	Let's just see the rest of it.
	This fight and get in between and be the middleman.
	AK, he's reactive to a situation like that.
	Because tell me why nowadays men instead of helping out the woman who's in danger, well, anybody that's in danger for that matter, instead of helping and being reactive, all they do is pull out their phones and post on TikTok.
	Pause it.
	I think.
	Let me tell you something.
	Wait, question.
	So what would you do in that situation?
	Oh, yeah.
	So I definitely saw this video after she posted it.
	But I'm glad to know that I am looked at as a hero and a savior or someone who keeps my wife safe in certain situations.
	It's hard to say what I would do in a situation without being in the situation.
	If it's a fight between two men, is it the best idea to break it up?
	It's obviously going to have to come down to me looking at the situation and seeing if it's even safe for my wife to be there.
	If I should just leave, if I should take my wife, my kids, whoever's with me, and go.
	Just get out of the situation.
	If I'm directly involved, maybe I'll take a video to show the police when they show up because maybe that's my best defense against it in any court.
	It all just depends on the situation.
	And I wouldn't say I would jump in and be the hero every time, but I would definitely keep my family safe in every situation.
	Wait, can we play the rest, actually?
	Let's play the rest.
	I think there's a little more.
	Go ahead.
	That is the most attractive thing for me.
	Knowing that my husband is going to go ratchet on someone, knowing that my husband is not afraid to protect who he cares about or to protect those that need protecting is another level of sexy.
	Oh, did it pause again?
	I'd be the one filling the TikTok.
	Wait, another level of sexy?
	Huh?
	Wait, what?
	I will be the one filling up for the TikTok.
	Well, okay, so let's see.
	So you think protecting whenever a woman is in danger, do you think the husband should give his life?
	I think that's what you say in the video, right?
	Yeah, so when I was saying, well, recording that, it was out of frustration from a situation that we saw.
	There was a breakout at Walmart, and there was- So you were- No, no, no.
	Yeah, this was with my mom.
	So she, and she was actually telling me the story.
	I didn't really know, and this is where the idea stemmed from because she was so terrified, so scared.
	And she's like, I hated to see all the men just recording like idiots because it was two men there and a guy in the store was like bullying a special needs kid and a fight broke out and my mom was like I'm glad that guy who was bullying this kid got you know his butt whipped but like Everybody in the room, or everybody there, the mom was yelling, Help my son, help my son, and no one stood up.
	Everybody was just recording, and nobody like tried calling, you know, 911.
	No one did anything.
	So I was like, that's like the one thing that I love about my husband.
	If it were me in that situation, oh, he, he, you know, he doesn't care.
	And not just that, but I've seen my husband like in a fight or flight zone and he reacts to every situation so well.
	And I don't know if it's because he's in the military and going on to the police force, but that is like another level of like sexy.
	I can't explain.
	Being able to feel safe, protected by your man and every situation, it's hot.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And you said it sounded like, what about like if it's a first date?
	Do you think like you should still, the guy should still like protect the woman, even like first aid?
	Yeah, like it, so that, and this, and this is the analogy that I use when it comes to this is like a man is a car and the woman is a pedestrian.
	A man has the ability to protect.
	Okay, a man has the strength and the ability to be able to protect you know his woman in that way.
	So I think if he's gonna go out on a date, it's like you have to take on the full, you have this is how I want men to start thinking about like you have to be willing to acknowledge the responsibility that you're going into this date.
	I see.
	So wait, I have a proposal though.
	You know, you say like single until married.
	What about unprotected until married?
	What does that mean?
	What about a rank?
	You don't get the.
	No, I'm not talking about.
	No, no, no.
	No, you're on the first date.
	No, no, like, you know, you don't get the man's protection.
	You don't get that.
	Like, if you're single until married, you don't get my protection until married.
	What about that?
	If you're out with a girl on a first date, just say you're on a first date and, you know, you're not married.
	This is just a first date.
	Yeah.
	And you're at a coffee shop and something, a fight breaks out.
	You, as a man, regardless if you're protecting her, you will step in to no.
	So, okay, it's a liability.
	Hold on.
	It's a liability.
	My primary thing would be to be tagged all the time for no reason.
	Go on.
	What if they attack her?
	It's a liability.
	This person's liability.
	What if they attack this person's liability?
	Yeah, just.
	But you want their full attention.
	What if they attacked her?
	Let me finish my point before you guys start interrupting.
	So, okay.
	Sorry.
	No, it wasn't even you.
	If there's two people fighting and I'm with my girlfriend, hey, babe, grabbing her by the arm, let's leave.
	Like, I don't think it's my job to intervene because, like, look, you can be the hero.
	Let's protect you.
	No, but like, you can be the hero.
	But I've seen way too many situations where some poor guy tries to break up a fight.
	The guy swings around, fucking knocks him out.
	Who knows if there's a weapon involved?
	My personal thing is there's a lot of fucking crazy people out there.
	True.
	And you're logical and smart in that.
	Yeah, because you're still putting her forward because not being longitude.
	No, I'm not saying I just leave.
	I would like to say a scenario.
	I was just like, yo, we need to, like, if some shit's going down, like, my primary thing is like, yo, we got, like, if I'm assessing the situation, yo, this is, I don't know if they have a weapon.
	Okay, we got to, we got to leave.
	Let's go.
	Absolutely.
	So here's the thing.
	So this also stemmed from another case that I saw.
	It was a recent thing.
	It was, I got a lot of hate for it.
	It was like in September where I don't know, her last name was Alvarez, and she got shot.
	And, you know, she, you know, but she was in the car with her boyfriend at 12 a.m.
	I don't know, doing what nonsense in the car.
	And this random person comes by, pulls out, you know, the firearm, and this man runs away and leaves her there because he shoots and she's left there injured.
	And instead of being a protector, like the way that I say, he left her there and to find help.
	And by the time that he came back, obviously she was gone and was found, you know, no longer here.
	There's a question for everybody here.
	What would you guys think is the most based or alpha thing, right?
	So you often hear like men like, let's say there's a bullet, right?
	Oh, jumping in front of the bullet, like for his girlfriend.
	I kind of think like the most alpha thing is if the man uses.
	I'm kind of memeing here.
	The man like lets the woman jump in front of the bullet to like save the man or uses the woman as like a meat shield to protect himself that way because as the provider, as the provider, I feel like I'm more capable of like providing for our kids.
	Like if we have kids, oh, you're like, you need to survive.
	I need to survive.
	Now, from a purely alpha point of view, like the most fucking alpha thing would be like, my survival's number one.
	I can procreate.
	I can go procreate with another woman.
	That's the most.
	I understand.
	Like, sure, maybe it's alpha if you'll protect your girlfriend, but the most alpha thing if like there's a situation where it's like one or the other one of you has to end up with a bunch of people.
	Like the most fucking alpha thing is the most alpha thing, bro, is for you to continue on your survival so you can continue passing on your seed.
	That's fucking alpha.
	You sacrifice your woman for the greater good so that you can continue on, find another woman, and continue.
	Like that's the, that would be the most alpha thing.
	This is the type of broke man that I'm talking to you guys about.
	No, that's the most fucking alpha movie.
	No, no, no.
	Listen, this actually happened, and that's why I say to women, like, know who you're with.
	Know who you're with.
	I'm not saying I'm alpha, by the way.
	I'm just saying that would be the most alpha thing to sacrifice the woman so you can continue living on.
	So you can either continue protecting and providing for your children and finding a new woman to also impregnate and have seven sons with.
	Right?
	I doubt that's in the Bible.
	I know.
	I doubt that's in the Bible.
	Just saying.
	I don't think it's.
	But it would be, like, wouldn't it be.
	It would be the most alpha move.
	It would be the most alpha move.
	Like, you're so fucking ruthless that your own wife, you will sacrifice her to continue.
	It's straight Darwinism.
	I'd say the Mongols would agree with you.
	What's that?
	The Mongols might agree with you.
	They didn't have really anything.
	But there's always this topic.
	It's the purely most animalistic instinct.
	No, but there is a lot of people.
	Like the alpha male, the alpha male will take a bullet for his wife.
	No, The alpha male will use his wife as a meat shield so he can continue living.
	No problem.
	An alpha male will take out his gun, deflect the bullet with his own bullets.
	There's actually a male podcast host that freaked out over too much responsibility and had to have his girl.
	Not obviously, but like had to have his girlfriend basically go save the entire knife that he planned.
	And it was just this very, I gotta help me.
	And she just.
	Or is it Sigma?
	Maybe it's Sigma.
	I'll tell you after the show.
	But it was just very kind of like, oh my God.
	Now, obviously, guys, I'm being kind of exaggerated here.
	This is a bit of hyperbole.
	I know a guy that, you know, was dating girls.
	She wanted to have a kid, and they had a kid together, but he was like to her, I'll give you a kid, but you'll take care of it.
	Buy yourself.
	I don't know if that's, I don't know if that's, I don't, first off, I don't like the whole like alpha beta.
	Yeah.
	But it's accurate.
	She has to take care of the kid.
	She sleeps downstairs with the kid.
	There's like Sigma male grindset.
	Throwing your wife to the tiger.
	Okay, I don't know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's see here.
	Let's pull up the or wait.
	Did the video just come down?
	Is that?
	The videos are really tweaky.
	Oh.
	Get rid of a few.
	Just close out the one, the husband material check, do the next one.
	How to.
	It's probably going to stop.
	Just try.
	Just try.
	See if it works.
	You're already in an exclusive relationship.
	Should you still date other men?
	No.
	Let me go ahead and explain.
	What I need you to do before you get into an exclusive relationship.
	Yeah, let's just do the fact that.
	Let's just do next, just so we can.
	I want to try to wrap up soon.
	So, next one.
	Next one.
	Next.
	When we say rotational date, we are not saying to sleep with them.
	This is why having boundaries is extremely important.
	This is also why I don't want you to get physical with a man the first couple of dates.
	Whenever I get asked by all of you if you should disclose that you're talking to multiple men, I always say yes.
	Only if they ask.
	And the reason why I stress that you need to have class and respect yourself is so that when you tell them that you are talking to multiple men, they understand that you're not sleeping around.
	You're not disrespecting yourself.
	You're simply getting to know your options.
	You're dating.
	I don't know about you, but intimacy for me was definitely a wife privilege.
	Kissing should be a boyfriend privilege.
	Holding hands should also be a boyfriend privilege.
	By the way, whenever someone doesn't like dating and talking to multiple men because they need all of your attention, they're not good options.
	And they're not mature enough to emerge.
	Because when you're dating, you're just dating.
	You're just talking.
	You're spending time together to see if it is going to lead to a relationship.
	Here, we can always pause it, pause it, pause it.
	Wait, so okay.
	First off, the background music is fucking epic on that.
	It's like, it's like so, wait, hold on.
	Okay, so intimacy is a wife privilege.
	Okay, yep, we got that.
	So, but do you genuinely believe that someone wanting to date someone who isn't talking to and dating other people, they're not good options or not mature enough, as you said in the video, for example?
	So, again, I think it goes back to background and age.
	Obviously, I think that what you do really probably goes into and pours into your dating life.
	So, I think that men who aren't so involved in this wouldn't know so much.
	So, I feel like I'm speaking to men who might not, that are too busy, you know, working a lot, long hours, and doing what they need to do that they barely have any time on social media.
	So, they wouldn't know, because this is for the girls.
	They wouldn't know all of these things, but you do know because you've been exposed to all of this, and you know, your followers also know as well.
	So, I think that from my opinion, in my opinion, a man who doesn't want to see like, you know, one of his options like thrive in the dating market, I think that they're very, in a way, I guess, selfish.
	Wait, hold on, wait, hold on.
	Wait, it's selfish to not want somebody that you're.
	Let me, I think it's selfish for you not to want the girl that you're dating to see your options.
	But you said thrive, right?
	Yeah, to thrive.
	Well, of course, yeah.
	I don't want, I want the girl that I'm seeing to, what's the opposite of thrive, to have a terrible experience in the dating market.
	And I'm here to see her.
	I'm joking a little bit.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	But no, I certainly don't want her to be thriving because if she's thriving with the other options, then I feel like that diminishes my chance of getting her, I guess.
	Because you would have to like step up, you know, step up your game.
	Like, and that's that's what I'm saying.
	But I'm not going to be the, I feel like here's the thing: like there's going to be, and people tend to compartmentalize this, both men and women.
	So, like, for example, a woman might have a guy who's like really good in bed, but he's broke.
	So, like, and I'm not, I don't think that this is what you're advocating for at all, but like, you'll have women who will, okay, he is the provider guy.
	He's, this is the emotional support guy.
	Here's the guy with a really good personality.
	He's the guy with a really good dick.
	And so, they'll like compartmentalize and shit.
	And so, I recognize like there are perhaps some dimensions where I'm not like the ultimate like there's always better.
	There's always somebody better, right?
	So my concern is if she's thriving in the in her with her other dating options, it's just like, I don't want you to be thriving.
	No thriving.
	You don't get to thrive.
	You can thrive with me.
	You can thrive with me.
	Other men, no, I don't like you thriving.
	You can't thrive with other men.
	You can't thrive with me.
	Absolutely.
	And to some guys for you.
	Yeah, some women are going to go for that, but other women are going to be like, you know what?
	You do have a point and they're going to do what I suggest.
	And thus far, because I am a woman's advocate, I think that this is why I say it this way.
	And obviously you stand for men.
	But it really just depends, I guess.
	Okay.
	And let me see here.
	So, okay.
	Oh, well, when it comes to the rotational dating thing, so and again, I think it's like you.
	Mind you, mind you.
	I think the reason why Dustin was okay with me rotational dating and he was like okay with it was because I would consider myself being an I don't want to say like I was spectacular.
	I would I would say like I don't want to do my own porn here, but I mean I'm I'm educated.
	I had a job.
	I'm bilingual.
	I'm cultured and I'm fun.
	I'm fun to be around and one thing that we didn't discuss was not talking about the past, right?
	So one thing that I noticed was whenever you talk to a man on the first like for a meetup and you talk about your dreams together, oh my gosh, if you're talking to the right man, a successful-minded man, I would assume that both of you guys are successful-minded men.
	You can go blabbing on about your dreams and not focus so much on the past.
	So that's why I avoid talking about the past on first dates.
	And again, going into this conversation, and I'd made some notes on stuff.
	I didn't know that you were a virgin.
	So that obviously, like, and because when I think rotational dating, I think the way probably most women move is when they're rotational dating, they're absolutely kissing the other guys, having sex with the other guys.
	I'm not saying all women move like that, but there's definitely enough women, especially here in California, that are dating, sleeping with multiple men to meet.
	And granted, like I, my advice for any guy, if that girl is sleeping with another guy, that's just a non-starter.
	Absolutely.
	And I agree with you.
	But my standard is a little higher.
	My standard is, well, if she's even dating other men, for me personally, that's a non-starter too.
	Because I feel like to give, at least my view, to give the relationship the best chance of flourishing and proceeding, there can't be other guys in the picture.
	Like once you meet me, other guys have to be a rap.
	Preferably, you're just proper single when I come into your life and you come into mine.
	So and those are your standards.
	And one thing that I want to say is, like, I'm not speaking to those women.
	Those women that are promiscuous, I don't, I'm not, like, I'm speaking to the women who are wise, who, like, know how to dominate their emotions and know, like, what's best for them.
	So this really doesn't apply to women who are extremely promiscuous.
	This really applies to women who are marriage-minded, which is very, very different.
	Wait, Nick, did they have to take off?
	Are they coming back?
	No, they're still there.
	Okay, I think they just had to use the bathroom.
	Yeah, we'll try to wrap up here pretty soon.
	Let's pull up the next video.
	Why not?
	We have, oh, what's this one?
	Oh, how she met her husband, part two.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Part two as to how I met my now husband.
	So at this point, I have two weeks of dates lined up from the middle.
	Oh, the audio.
	Can you look at it on the, oh, okay.
	Go ahead.
	Keep playing.
	We're extremely attracted and successful.
	Wait, sorry, start from the beginning because I was talking, I don't want to.
	Part two as to how I met my now husband.
	So at this point, I have two weeks of dates lined up from the apps, and all of them, all of them, were extremely attractive and successful.
	But, anyways, the day rolls around where I have a coffee meetup with this guy named Dustin.
	Prerequisite for me, by the way, to get a date with me.
	You cannot be from California.
	I was only dating guys.
	Wait, pause it, pause it.
	Okay, that's an it can't be from California.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Absolutely not.
	Gotcha.
	And so you said you had two weeks of lined-up dates, and they were all attractive and successful, guys.
	Okay.
	When you say like two weeks of lined-up dates, would you like so?
	A couple dates a week every single day?
	It was like, let's say two weeks out of those two weeks, it was like six, five dates.
	No, no, no, six, five days.
	Okay.
	Gotcha.
	And I mean, the question for you, is it Destin or Dustin?
	The why threw me off.
	Dustin?
	Dustin, gotcha.
	Did that like I think some men can be competitive in this sense.
	Like, did that light a fire under you?
	Like, oh, okay, shit, I really want to get her because she's got these other, as she said, two weeks of lined-up dates, all attractive and successful.
	And so I knew that any woman that I went after was going to have options.
	Okay.
	Competitiveness has been around since Caveman.
	There's always a guy with a bigger rock.
	Sure.
	So it just, it lit a fire under me.
	So she didn't really have time to go with other dates because every day I would text her and say, hey, what are we eating tonight?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I put the work out.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Good times.
	Good times.
	Next one, Nick.
	Oh, my God.
	Holy fuck.
	I have so many notes.
	Holy shit.
	What's up?
	Oh, my.
	Notes.
	What's up?
	I'm done.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Wait, question.
	Are you down to come back?
	Maybe we could hit on.
	Absolutely.
	Because I feel like this show's gone super lit.
	I have like literally, this could probably, if we tried to get through all of them, it'd probably be.
	I'm trying to.
	I have one other question.
	For the dating stage, should we do it round two?
	Do it.
	Round two?
	Let's do it.
	I just, I know some of the girls here probably, it's getting lit, so I don't want to.
	Yeah, I'm on New York time too.
	So I'm going to show you.
	We should have eight hours of driving.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	Let's, well, here, final thoughts from everybody.
	Does anyone have any final thoughts here before we wrap up the show?
	If you can, just make it quick.
	I do have to say I'm really grateful for being on the show because it really helped me to get perspective on a lot of things when it comes to seeing relationships and just in general, guys.
	So thank you for that.
	Yeah.
	Welcome.
	Welcome.
	I actually just wanted to thank all of the virgins for sharing like their, or the virgins and the low body count people for sharing their experience, because I honestly, like we can't I wouldn't be able to even have context for what you're talking about without this conversation.
	So, thank you, you're welcome, are you, of course?
	Are you talking about him, I mean, and her too, like any of any of the people?
	Yeah like, it's just like, like an entire, like way of life that I didn't.
	Yeah Nick, did you say you too?
	Oh yeah Nick, Nick's also a virgin.
	Yeah, let's go, Nick.
	I real quick, I am so in.
	You guys are super.
	All of you are so smart.
	I thought that I was gonna come into a different space, but I'm.
	You guys really opened my eyes to see different things.
	Likewise, thank you so much for giving perspective on a lot of things.
	I want to say no, go ahead, go ahead.
	I just want to say thank you everyone.
	I know I'm a firecracker and I fly off the handle.
	It is not just.
	It's not just a facade, it's who I am with.
	That said, it's all love.
	I just like to get challenged and I like to challenge people too.
	So I really appreciate you guys listening to me and I apologize.
	Wait last question, what do you think of white people?
	I prefer black men.
	Thank you very much.
	You're just digging that hole.
	No, let me just say about that, though.
	That was written in response to some people calling me out about my bar.
	I'm sorry about that.
	What do you think of white people?
	I don't like white people.
	No.
	Oh, holy shit.
	Keep giving it back.
	If you're going to keep hiring white people, white people.
	Wait, so you don't like white people?
	No.
	Black white people.
	That's why I don't like myself.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	I let myself.
	Wow, the self-loaded.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	She's the Clayton Bigsby of the white people.
	Hey, you can be a humble white person.
	What do you think of men?
	What do I think of men?
	There's a reason why I get paid to degrade them for a living sweetheart.
	What is that?
	I do not think highly of most men.
	I'm also bisexual, mainly gay.
	So if my mindset is more towards women, I'm not going to have a lot to say towards men because I'm not pursuing them as a partner.
	Well, shouldn't you even have, I feel like because you're not dealing with men, well, I mean, you do deal with or have dealt with men romantically, but I feel like you could almost make a stronger argument if you're not dealing with men romantically, then because there's a lot of conflict in romantic relationships.
	So I think honestly, a lot of the animosity, frankly, that the genders have for each other stems to some degree from dating and relationships.
	And let me reiterate: it's the men that are disrespectful, the ones that I see all the time that are doing infidelity like completely off the charts.
	The ones that I have dealt with.
	So eight out of ten men that I have dealt with, I don't have respect for.
	My ex, even though he did me dirty, he was an amazing man.
	He did everything to a team because he was broke.
	He was an amazing man.
	He was still a great man.
	He loved me.
	He gave me everything he could, not financially.
	That doesn't make him less of a man.
	He became broke two years after we got together and then chose not to work again.
	That's where my qualm was.
	I could not handle that.
	But he was a great man, but I can only handle so much of that unconditional love to where I'm now hurting myself.
	We weren't married.
	I don't think you can watch men give up.
	Yeah.
	Like, love aside, I think it's hard to watch anyone give up.
	Right.
	So when you're in a relationship with someone and it's turning into a situation rather than something they're just going through, I think that's what I'm saying.
	That's not what we agreed on.
	Going in a relationship, you agree on something.
	You can't break it up like that.
	It's not fair.
	Wait, so.
	It's like if I was to do that to him, he wouldn't have liked it.
	Wait, I have a just to reiterate: what do you think of America?
	God, you went there.
	Wow.
	Into the mic.
	Same answer.
	Restate the answer.
	I don't do this to her.
	Restate it.
	I love Philadelphia.
	I go Eagles.
	Yeah.
	That's where I'm sticking to.
	Were you watching the show?
	Oh, yeah.
	I've been watching the show the whole time.
	Oh, my God.
	She's not a big fan of the U.S. What do you think about that?
	I think it's a privilege to have your own opinion about everything in the U.S. indeed.
	Congratulations.
	I have to say, though.
	There's a lot of countries where you couldn't openly talk shit about lots of countries where you've been murdered and such things.
	I do have to say, you're harsh, but.
	Oh, I'm harsh.
	No, I'm saying this as a good thing.
	You are harsh, but there are certain things in my life where I needed that bandit just ripped off, and you did that for me.
	So thank you.
	Like what?
	I don't want to get into what it is in my head, but it solved a lot of.
	Well, no, that was a thing that I wanted, that I changed my mind about a long time ago.
	But what I mean is like love relationships and so on and so on.
	So thank you for that.
	Can I actually add to that?
	Like, I feel like when I first saw you, you had a different energy.
	And right now you have a completely different energy than when you during these hours have played out in my phone.
	Yeah.
	In your phone.
	Yes.
	So thank you for that.
	God bless.
	That's amazing.
	It helped me a lot.
	Yeah, that's beautiful.
	I think that a lot of the times we make decisions because there's no self-awareness in certain things or we don't have good guidance in our, especially in our childhood and throughout life.
	And we get influenced by people around us and we don't realize that we're like in a bad environment until we start to share with different types of people, different types of mind.
	Yeah.
	Oh, wait, Kendra, I got another thing here.
	You had a tweet.
	I don't know if I already brought this up.
	I really wish men appreciate it.
	Did I read this already?
	I really wish men appreciated when they have a good provider who's an OG porn star in their presence, willing to spend time with them.
	Not even that, just the presence of a woman who knows and understands your needs.
	It's hard to find us.
	Trust me.
	Wait, so I really wish men appreciated when they have a good provider.
	So like you?
	So like the woman?
	Yeah.
	Wait into the mic if you can.
	Yes.
	But you said that, like very early on in the conversation, you said that you were very upset about paying the bills in your last relationship.
	Okay.
	Again, he sold me a false relationship.
	I went into it thinking he's a multi-millionaire.
	And two years later, he's broke on the couch.
	So it's one thing if he, yes, he was.
	You can look him up.
	Phil Tyler.
	Freaking famous.
	Yes.
	He's an actor.
	He's great.
	Very nice guy.
	But after two years, he had medical issues.
	He had constant issues.
	And after so long, a woman can only endure so much.
	Phil Tyler.
	Yeah.
	Can we see Phil Tyler?
	You were romantically involved with Phil Tyler?
	Four years.
	He proposed last year twice.
	Beautiful blue sapphire ring, everything.
	Are you going to bring him up so we can see?
	Please don't.
	I don't know if it's...
	He's a great person.
	I don't know if I want to do that.
	He's an actor.
	Well, if the viewers want to see him.
	He's already pretty.
	Yeah, we're in this too deep.
	We're too deep.
	They need to see it.
	They need to like him last time.
	He's out there publicly amusing.
	Some 41.
	Let's go.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Start playing soon.
	Yeah.
	If it's like IMBD, it's public information.
	Sounds like white people music.
	It is.
	Sounds like white people music.
	100%.
	Oh, yeah.
	Let's go.
	Wait, okay.
	So.
	Is he hot?
	Bring him up.
	Yeah, he's handsome.
	He's pretty handsome.
	He's a decent-looking man.
	Decent.
	Wait, so were you guys in a monogamous relationship?
	Wait, we were in monogamish.
	And it's already publicly known that you guys were dating?
	No, we never walked our carpets together.
	Only my red carpets he came with.
	Oh, but like I met Philip together like Kendra Lee Ryan has never publicly announced this.
	This is the first time I've ever publicly announced my partner ever.
	I had kept it under secret for four years.
	Wait, so and how did you characterize him?
	You said, great guy.
	He's an amazing man, but he's his ambition and I'm my his ambition and me enabling him for so long broke him as a man.
	And because he was broken as a man, I couldn't help, I'm sure maybe because he was broken as a man, I can't fix you.
	You have to do it yourself.
	And if you're not willing to get a job, you're not willing to go to therapy and you're not willing to do things that I need you to do that I'm doing, then that's not a fair relationship.
	He's kind of a Giga Chad, not gonna lie.
	What's that?
	Like a Chad, but a Giga Chad?
	Meaning he's a really kind of good looking dude.
	Yeah, is he like a material size?
	There's this photo of him in a suit.
	Like, he kind of looks like a Giga Chad, not because we're not seeing him.
	Should we pull it off?
	This is him right here.
	We are here.
	Fuck, Nick, Phil Tyler, Google, image search.
	Oh, hey.
	Wait, the one in the suit at the top?
	Yep.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's kind of a Giga Chad, not gonna lie.
	Okay.
	I will say, in real life, he's not really a Giga Chad.
	He doesn't have the mark of the Chad.
	You know what I mean?
	Put some respect.
	Put some respect on Phil Tyler's name.
	Okay, I will.
	And I will say, I was like, not really, because I'm her friend, right?
	So my natural inclination is like, hey, if this guys, guys, guys, let her talk, please.
	Yeah, so I met them.
	My natural inclination of it is kind of like, hey, she's my friend.
	I've known her for a while.
	So if this is not on the up and up, I'm just not for it.
	My loyalty is to her, right?
	And so, but he is like, he's a good-looking guy.
	He really wanted to do a lot.
	It's just like people get into these depressed things, right?
	And it's hard to get out.
	And so, but I mean, honestly, like, I know, I know she is a firecracker and looks different and has tattoos and stuff like that.
	But I've seen this girl pull really hot guys consistently and that are like good guys.
	Yeah.
	Relationships.
	And have like long-term relationships with them.
	So I know that like she, it like it seems a certain way, but I've seen it.
	I've seen this happen over and over.
	I've seen, you know what I mean?
	Like good guys.
	But he, but it's, you can't co-sign a life like that if it starts kind of going downhill because he's never going to change if you make it comfy for him.
	You know what I mean?
	So it's really not doing anyone a service.
	Like, yeah, just keep doing this, right?
	You know what I mean?
	So it was better for everybody.
	But $100,000 a year without lifting a finger?
	Kind of jealous.
	It's not even that much.
	Pretty dope.
	When you have to take care of your grandmother's rent on top of all of her bills and your own, it's not that much.
	Like, it's really not expensive.
	Especially because my grandmother has broken every home for reasons.
	$100,000.
	One source of revenue.
	One source.
	Guys, guys, one source of revenue.
	That's pretty impressive.
	I mean, I lift two fingers quite often.
	Is that like a.
	I'm just kidding.
	No, never mind.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Haram.
	Haram.
	Wait, okay.
	So you don't like white people.
	You don't like men.
	What about white men?
	Wait, can you grab the microphone?
	You don't like white people.
	You don't like men.
	What about like white men?
	Do you like them?
	Two negatives make a positive.
	Not really.
	Maybe it cancels each other out.
	So my second relationship wasn't, which was not a good one.
	He actually physically abused me to the point of almost, yeah.
	And he was white.
	He was white.
	And I'm not going to lie, that's probably where you started.
	Sure, I'm sorry to hear that happened, but like, I don't, don't you think it's a bit like sexist or racist?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	But there's right now that's what I feel comfortable with.
	And if that's what I feel comfortable and safe with, then that's how I feel.
	Good.
	There you go.
	And just to also say, I don't really hate American white people.
	It's kind of just on my Twitter.
	And that was literally so old ago.
	What am I going to do?
	You're not going to deny what I wrote.
	No, I'm not going to deny it.
	I still stand by it.
	I wrote it.
	I didn't delete it.
	So clearly, I still stand by it, but I'm not what everyone thinks I am.
	So.
	Wait, do you consider really quick?
	I know.
	We're going to wrap soon, guys.
	Going around the table, really quick.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist?
	No.
	Not really.
	No.
	No.
	Nope.
	No.
	Negative.
	Oh, okay.
	Yes.
	No.
	Mix it up.
	Yeah.
	It's changed now.
	It's almost like a child.
	And you're like, I've never, honestly, though, a man is my leader.
	And I know that bothers women.
	That's sometimes triggering for women to hear.
	But like, I was raised with like good male, like, like, role models that really honestly impress me.
	And so it's like, I do want my leader to be a man.
	You know what I mean?
	I don't want it to be a woman.
	And it's cool if it is.
	I don't have a problem, like a fundamental issue if it's like I'm at a job and my leader is a woman, but it's like I would kind of like prefer it to be a man.
	And can I say, like, for the most part, when women have like leading roles, it's because they live like in a very masculine energy and it's because they've grown up on survival mode.
	And I think that that's why like it's more of a male role, not that we can't do it, but it's more of like their dominant energy.
	Yeah, they adopt male traits.
	So they're extremely disagreeable.
	They're very driven.
	I've always got an awful lot of competitive.
	I gotta wrap, guys.
	I gotta wrap.
	I've kept you guys here for way too long.
	Thank you guys.
	This is our, this is, has been our longest show ever.
	So I thank you guys.
	I know it went.
	Did you love it?
	Did we do a good job for you?
	Or did we?
	That's what I need for you.
	Are we too born?
	Or did we fuck your life up?
	I don't know if I go there.
	Like, rate our performance.
	Right.
	One through 10.
	One through 10.
	I'll tell you this.
	It's your turn.
	I'll tell you this.
	I'm going to just like twist the knife here a little bit.
	Do it.
	Had you revealed your body count, it would have been a 10.
	Oh, I'm the only 10 in this guy's life almost.
	There you go.
	Oh, my God.
	Jesus.
	Is it at eight and a half now?
	I'm not sure.
	Is it a five?
	I'll live with a five.
	I'm a five.
	I thought ten wasn't real.
	Yeah, it's not real.
	But it is real for the podcast.
	Okay.
	It could have been.
	It could have been.
	But yeah.
	All right.
	But yes, thank you guys for staying long.
	Appreciate it, guys.
	I know we went very late.
	I know it's fucking seven hours.
	That's a long time.
	So last call, guys, please hit the like button on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	Oh, shout out Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever slasher thing for the prime terror thing for the tier one.
	Supreme thing for the tier one.
	Dorn thing for the tier one.
	Appreciate it, man.
	Oh, yeah, my Instagram, BD underscore Atlas.
	Yep, there it is.
	Boom.
	Give me a follow.
	Okay, guys, thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I appreciate that.
	Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, supports the show.
	Thank you guys.
	Really appreciate your patronage.
	Thank you guys so much.
	Thank you to the wonderful panel.
	I know this was our longest show ever.
	So thank you guys so much for being troopers here.
	Any women who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram.
	We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific.
	And then we are going to be doing a Thursday show.
	So that's kind of out of the ordinary, but we've got something a little special for Thursday.
	So be sure to tune in for on Tuesday and Thursday this week, 5 p.m. Pacific.
	07's in the chat.
	We will see you next time.
	Good night, guys.

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