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SIMP Paid Her Bills On FIRST DATE?! Feminist Until The Check Comes?! | Dating Talk #120

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	Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
	So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
	Go ahead.
	Hi, I'm Celeste.
	I'm 23 and I go to CSUN.
	You go to CSEN.
	Okay.
	Are you a grad student, undergrad?
	Undergrad.
	Okay, what are you studying there?
	Marketing.
	Marketing.
	Okay.
	And you do any content creation or just student right now?
	I do a little bit of OnlyFans.
	I just started.
	A little bit of OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	Is there any reason you glossed over doing the OnlyFans thing?
	Because mainly I'm just a student.
	I'm focusing on that more than OnlyFans.
	How long have you been doing OnlyFans?
	I recently started this year.
	Like last month, January?
	Two, three months ago, yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My name's Nicole.
	I'm 23.
	I'm a full-time caretaker for my grandmother, full-time online student.
	I'm an author and an artist.
	What do you study?
	I'm undecided, but as of right now, I'm really enjoying political science and journalism.
	Okay, got it.
	And you said you're an artist.
	What kind of art do you make?
	I do paintings and sketchings.
	Paintings and sketchings.
	Okay, what about you?
	My name is Mandy.
	I'm 23 and I do OnlyFans.
	All right.
	How long have you been doing that?
	I've been doing OnlyFans for about three to four years.
	Three to four years, okay.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	My name is Aksana.
	I'm 45, and I'm a matchmaker.
	A matchmaker?
	Okay, I think that you're the first.
	You're our first matchmaker.
	So maybe you can weigh in on what's going on in the dating world.
	And do you matchmake for men, for women, for both?
	How does it typical?
	Both.
	Men and women.
	Yeah, okay.
	So it has to be opposite gender.
	That's the only type of matchmaking I do.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Because isn't the case that with some matchmakers they they focus more so on like one gender over the other?
	No, everybody really needs help, men and women, you know, so it's especially the dating world that is going on right now.
	It's just gotcha.
	Yeah, we'll get to it.
	I see, five hours.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	Hello, everyone.
	I'm Jana.
	I'm 36 years old.
	I just moved to the USA three months ago, so from Moscow.
	Originally, I'm Belarusian.
	I have my journalistic background back from Moscow, but here I'm just going through my transition period and just want to be involved into some volunteering with church.
	So background, you said you're originally from Belarus, but I lived in Moscow for nine years before moving to the USA.
	And you were born in Belarus?
	Yes.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, and what about you?
	Because I detect an accent too.
	Are you from Kazakhstan?
	So it's former Soviet Union.
	Yeah.
	Next to Russia and China.
	Okay, got it.
	The petroleum.
	I heard petroleum is a good thing.
	Lots of yes, yes.
	Or is it potassium?
	I forgot.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Tara, and I am 34 years old.
	And I'm a bartender, and I'm a licensed nurse, LPN.
	I'm also from Florida, and yeah.
	Okay.
	And so are you dance, if I have that correct?
	Are you no dancing?
	Used to dance?
	I tried it and then didn't.
	Are you able to scoot your chair in a little bit?
	Is there any room for you to scoot your chair in just so you can get a little closer?
	Your chair.
	Mine.
	Yeah, your chair.
	If you can scoot it in.
	Okay, got it.
	What about you?
	My name's Tessa.
	I'm 20.
	I'm a Wrangler and a ranch Bronc writer, and I'm currently studying at Small Farms University doing beef and cattle management.
	Okay, beef and cattle management.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And you ride horses?
	Yes, so I compete in rodeos for ranch bronch riding.
	Okay.
	Do you consider yourself a horse girl?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Got it.
	What about you?
	My name is Reina Zuzunaga.
	I am 21 years old and I work a non-profit as a graphic designer.
	I do freelance and I also work in ministries.
	My faith is the most important part of my life, so I do dedicate a lot of my time to that.
	All right.
	Welcome, everybody.
	Welcome.
	So we're going to go around the table once more.
	So what is your current relationship status?
	Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polychool, sex cult?
	If you're single, how long have you been single?
	And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in?
	Go ahead.
	I've been single for about a year now.
	And the longest relationship I've been in is three years.
	Okay, longest relationship three years.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I've been single for like three years.
	Yeah.
	Single for three years?
	Longest relationship?
	Almost three years.
	Can we have you scoot your mic this way just a tad?
	Thank you.
	You said longest relationship three years.
	Was that the one that ended three years ago?
	Yeah, it was a little over three years ago.
	Okay, got it.
	And it was a three-year relationship, correct?
	Okay, what about you?
	I've been single for about two years, still single.
	Longest relationship was like a year and a half.
	2.5 years.
	Still single.
	And you've been on the show previously, so I don't know if anything's gone down since your previous appearance, but maybe we can.
	What about you?
	I'm married happily for nine years and this is my longest relationship.
	For nine years, got it.
	Is this your first time?
	Actually married for, it's just been so good.
	You know, how many years have we been married?
	Seven, eight?
	We know each other for nine years.
	Is this your first marriage?
	It is my second marriage.
	Second marriage, okay, got it.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	My last relationships ended maybe about a year ago.
	And the longest relationships were nine years.
	Included five years of marriage.
	You're married for five years.
	I have been.
	Only married once?
	Once.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	I'm single.
	And my longest relationship was three years.
	I was engaged.
	How long have you been single?
	Almost a year.
	Almost a year?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I am not single.
	My longest relationship was probably two years.
	Okay, two years.
	So you said not single, so are you in a relationship?
	Is it complicated?
	What?
	A relationship.
	Relationship.
	How long has this relationship been going on?
	Well, I ghosted him for about six months, and then we met again randomly at a gas station, and we haven't left each other since.
	So that's been about three to four months since we met again at the gas station.
	Okay, wait, so hold on.
	You were seeing him.
	The initial period of time you were seeing him, how long were you seeing him for?
	One night.
	It was a night.
	A singular night?
	It was, I deleted Tinder.
	I hated dating apps.
	And I thought he was just going to be a Tinder boy.
	And then we met again off Tinder.
	And it was a lot different experience.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Did you meet him in person?
	Yeah, literally once for about three hours off of Tinder and I left.
	You left?
	I just left.
	I was like, I can't do this.
	Why?
	It was just very odd interaction.
	We just didn't really hit it off, didn't have a lot of things in common.
	And then in that six months, he moved away and went and worked on a ranch and came back.
	And we ended up having a lot more in common and could actually sit down and talk with each other.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So did you guys like you hooked up that first time?
	No.
	No.
	Nothing like that.
	I was awkwardly sitting there.
	So was that more so on him or was it on you that was making it awkward?
	Him.
	Because he took me immediately to go meet his family and all of his parents.
	It's a little soon.
	Yeah.
	And I think it was just very awkward because I have never been on a Tinder date.
	That's my one and only Tinder date I've ever been on.
	Yeah.
	It was just a very odd experience for me.
	Okay.
	Damn.
	Okay.
	Did you know, like, going, like, did you, when you were going over to meet him, did you know you're going to meet the parents?
	No, not a clue.
	I had no idea.
	So he said, wait, hold on.
	Where did you meet him?
	Like, at his house.
	So we met on Tinder and he invited me over to his house.
	Oh, so you thought it was going to be a hookup?
	No.
	I thought we were going to go out to dinner.
	And we were meeting at his house, but he wanted to drive.
	Okay.
	So I drove to his house.
	It was about like five minutes away from where I was living at the time.
	And then his whole family, including brothers, sisters, grandfather, grandmother, they all.
	And I was like, whoa.
	So you drove to his house and were you going to drive y'all to the date?
	He was going to drive us.
	So wait, you were going to drive to his house.
	And then he was driving us somewhere.
	What?
	Why wouldn't you just meet me?
	Because he wanted to take his truck.
	He's a child.
	So why did he pick you up?
	I'm not sure.
	I mean, he must have known that.
	I think it was an ambush.
	We talk about it all the time.
	And he says it wasn't an ambush, but I totally think it was an ambush that he planned for his family to come out.
	Like, just, I'm thinking logistically, like, was his house on the way to the date?
	No, no.
	So, or his house was on the way to the date.
	Mine wasn't.
	So he would go out of the way to pick me up.
	Okay.
	So I met him halfway.
	Okay.
	That's part of the reason I ghosted him.
	Come on now.
	How far did you drive?
	It was only like five, ten minute drive.
	Oh, okay.
	know it was just not that long at all that's that's and I could see why you ghosted him That's a little intense, like the first date.
	How are you going to meet the whole family immediately?
	It was rough.
	Like, you said one word to him, and he's like, this is my mom, my dad, my grandma.
	Yeah, literally.
	Like, his grandparents were sitting out on the porch.
	Dad was in the driveway, like, working on his truck or something.
	The kids were in the front playing basketball.
	And I was like, what am I pulling up into?
	Yikes. I would have just been out of there.
	I would have just.
	Yeah, anyways, what about you?
	I'm single.
	I've been single for six months.
	And the longest relationship, I had a boyfriend for like five days, but.
	Five, five days.
	What happened there?
	It was long distance.
	He lives in Illinois and I live in Arizona.
	So it just, he came out to visit for the first time.
	And it like, we were just like, yeah, no, this is not going to work.
	Well, okay, you actually sent us pre-show notes on this.
	You said that you met a guy once.
	We had been talking for a week over Instagram DM when his plane got rerouted mid-flight to Phoenix.
	We talked for months after that.
	He flew out to visit me for a week, asked me to be his girlfriend, and we broke up four days later.
	Yes, that's figurative.
	Did you guys hook up?
	No.
	Who broke up with who?
	In the end, it was me, but it was kind of like back and forth for a little bit.
	oh like he wanted to end things and then i didn't and then he did and then okay yeah Yeah.
	All right.
	Very complicated here.
	Okay.
	So, let's see.
	Pretty much everyone here is single besides you and you there.
	So what does it actually mean to be single?
	So you said you've been single for a year.
	But come on.
	There's a guy in the picture, right?
	No, it's just me.
	There's just what?
	Just me.
	Just me?
	Yeah.
	There's no guy in the picture.
	There's no guy you're talking to, texting with?
	No.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Hooking up with?
	No.
	When's the last time you spent time one-on-one romantically with a guy?
	Probably like six months ago.
	Six months ago?
	Yeah.
	Stop the cab.
	I don't believe it.
	I don't believe it.
	Okay, six months ago.
	Do guys DM you on Instagram?
	Yes.
	You just ignore them all?
	I just ignore it, yeah.
	Okay.
	You're not on any dating apps or anything?
	No, I used to be on Hinge, but not anymore.
	I do that.
	I see.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	There's nothing, nobody in the picture.
	Maybe an ex-boyfriend, kind of a little something going on.
	I mean, I'm still friends with my ex-boyfriend, but we don't talk on a daily basis.
	Still friends with your ex?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I'll come back to that because that might be an interesting conversational thread.
	Is it a red flag if somebody is still friends with an ex?
	So, red flag, ex.
	Okay, so you've not even a date.
	You haven't even gone on a date in because you said you've been single for a year, nothing in a year.
	No dates, no.
	In a year.
	So you broke up with your guy.
	There's been no rebound.
	There's been nothing.
	No.
	Okay, all right.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	I'm protecting my piece.
	You're protecting your piece?
	Oh, that's, I mean, that's valid.
	What about you?
	What was the question?
	Oh, so, yeah, yeah.
	So you've been single for three years.
	Yeah.
	Are you truly single, though?
	Yeah.
	Maybe there's a guy in the picture, sort of.
	You're not official, but maybe there's a guy you're seeing.
	No guy?
	No.
	Maybe a lady friend?
	I don't know if you...
	No.
	Maybe I should ask.
	Sometimes people play both sides.
	You got a lady friend, maybe?
	I do, but.
	Oh.
	Oh, huh?
	I thought you were single.
	But not romantically.
	Well, no.
	Lady friend.
	Of course, I don't mean like literally just a friend.
	No, yeah, I have lady friends.
	I thought you meant like guys.
	So you have women that you're dating?
	No women I'm dating, no.
	women that you're seeing women that you're tonic friendship no when i say lady friend like i don't literally mean friend I mean, like, a girl you're romantically, sexually interested in.
	No.
	That's right.
	Lady friends?
	No.
	When's the last time you were on a date?
	Over a year ago.
	Over a year ago?
	I'm pretty busy.
	What about like a sneaky link?
	Anybody get sneaky link?
	Come on.
	All right, these girls are just lying.
	Okay.
	So, okay, you've been single for three years.
	In that three-year period, has there been another guy?
	Maybe like a friends with benefits, a situationship, anything like that?
	No, not really.
	Nothing too serious.
	Like I'd hang out with a male friend, yeah, but I'm pretty picky, so.
	Pretty picky.
	Okay.
	Oh my god, damn it!
	I'm gonna fix that.
	Do you want to answer?
	So, what color was the Ford truck, and was it a Stetson or ball cap?
	That's funny that he knew it was a Ford.
	It was a Ford.
	It has three different colors on it, and it's a square body, and it was a Stetson, not a ball cap.
	Wow.
	Okay, that's impressive that you know all that.
	Only horse girls would get it.
	Holy shit.
	By the way, there's just like marijuana wafting into the fucking studio.
	It's like I'm getting a secondhand high, I think.
	Jesus.
	Okay.
	So if I'm a little out of it, guys, it's because I don't know.
	It's the freaking out from.
	We have the windows open and it's just wafting in.
	Yeah, UCSB, just typical shit.
	Hold on, I'm trying to fix this.
	So, okay.
	You said nothing too serious.
	Yeah, I know.
	So you got, in the past year, have you had like a sneaky link?
	Friends with nothing?
	No.
	So you've been, are you saying you've been celibate for the past year?
	Yeah, over a year.
	Have you been celibate for the past year?
	Yeah.
	That's such a lie.
	You're such a fucking liar.
	You're such a liar.
	Come on.
	I have been.
	You're friends with her.
	Is it true?
	That's her business.
	That's her.
	She says that and she's celibate.
	She says to do something.
	Just blink twice if she's lying.
	Just do like, maybe after the camera goes off of you, you can let me know telepathically.
	Okay.
	I still can't.
	I'm trying to change the voice here.
	Hold on.
	Let me just type it.
	One sec.
	Hold on, one sec, guys.
	Okay.
	It should be changed.
	It's no longer the Japanese woman.
	Okay.
	Here we are.
	Well, we got this one.
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	Drink some eggnog.
	Spike kit with some rum for fun.
	Yo, thank you, PC.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	I'll look into the shepherd's crook thing.
	I'm not sure what that is, but okay, there you go.
	Celibate for more than a year, two years, three years?
	Almost two years.
	Two years of celibacy.
	Yeah.
	Closer than I am.
	Yeah, I'm busy with my grandmother, so that school, other projects.
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	You sure?
	Yes, I'm very sure.
	Two years?
	Yeah.
	I'm picky, like I said.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	Have you been on a date?
	Maybe not.
	Your celibacy is intact, but you've been dating.
	No.
	Mm-mm.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	It's not shameful to be dated.
	Okay, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
	I go on some dates, yeah.
	You know, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Are you on some dates?
	Some dates.
	Yeah.
	When's the last time you were on the date?
	Last night.
	Be honest.
	Last night, wasn't it?
	Wasn't it, Mandy?
	No.
	Do you want to say your name again?
	Mandy.
	Mandy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, maybe like a week ago.
	Like a week ago.
	Like last night?
	Like a week ago?
	What if I told you I knew somebody who knows you?
	I was streaming last night, actually.
	You were streaming last night?
	Okay.
	That's all right.
	So, okay, you were on a date a week ago.
	But you're not currently.
	Come on, you got a sneaky link.
	Come on, Mandy.
	Mandy?
	Be honest.
	You got a sneaky link.
	Come on.
	Okay, I wouldn't put that person under a sneaky link.
	Friends with benefits?
	Situationship?
	Let's call it a situationship.
	How long have you been in this situationship for?
	My gosh.
	Since 4th of July.
	Were you on before that?
	I think that was before.
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was before.
	I'm not sure.
	Okay, 4th of July, so almost six months here.
	Do you want it to become a relationship?
	We'll see.
	Are you guys exclusive?
	Yes.
	You're exclusive, but he's not your boyfriend.
	But you said you were single, but you're exclusive.
	Yeah, we're single.
	So you wouldn't date other men.
	Yeah.
	Ergo, I don't think you're single.
	Because I only like to see one person at a time.
	Ergo, I don't think you're single then.
	You're only seeing him.
	Like if another guy wanted to date you, sleep with you, you'd say no, I'm assuming?
	Yeah, I would say no.
	You said the last time you hold on.
	You said you went on a date last week, though.
	Yeah, with that person.
	Oh, with that guy?
	Yeah.
	So you went on a date with this guy as recently as a week ago, but you're single, and you've been seeing him since July 4th, and you're exclusive.
	He's hanging out.
	What do you mean he hasn't asked you?
	He hasn't asked me to be his girlfriend.
	How often do you guys hang out?
	A couple times a week.
	When's the last time you saw him?
	Was it a week ago for the date?
	This last weekend.
	Sunday?
	Yes, I think.
	So two days ago?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you're not.
	I mean.
	Would he be upset if you told a guy that you were single?
	I don't know.
	It's just, it's complicated because, like, I want to be asked out.
	Like, I want to get asked to be someone's girlfriend.
	I don't want them to just be like, oh, well, so we've been shooting.
	Have you asked him to be your boyfriend?
	No, just because we're trying to.
	Hold on, just a sec.
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	Oh, my God.
	Techno music goes boom, chiboom, chi.
	Hey, it stopped.
	What the hell?
	A silly ninja.
	Thank you, man.
	That was beautiful.
	That was like some trance music or something.
	Go ahead.
	Where were we?
	Well, I think the question was, why didn't you ask him?
	We're just seeing how things are going, you know?
	But you said you want him to ask you to be serious?
	Not, like, I mean, if he asks, it's a problem.
	So you want him to take the initiative on his end.
	Yep.
	Yes.
	But do you want a relationship?
	Yes.
	With him?
	Yes.
	So why not just ask him?
	Because we're also just seeing where things are going.
	Like, yes, I would like to.
	You've been dating him for five months, six months.
	What are you seeing where it's going?
	What do you mean?
	Because, you know, life, I don't know.
	Life.
	Do you do for your OF?
	Do you do DG content?
	Just solo content?
	What about you?
	Solo content.
	Just solo content?
	Okay.
	Uh-oh.
	Okay.
	You're going to get me in trouble.
	Why?
	Do you shoot content with him?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	He knows you do OF, right?
	Okay.
	Why don't you post him on your IG?
	Nope.
	You've been seeing him.
	Oh, okay.
	So you're waiting for him?
	Yes.
	Why are you so conflicted right now?
	You want me to take that step?
	But it's like, I don't know, we're also, we're just, we're getting to know each other.
	And like, I'm also like you hang out like multiple times a week.
	Yeah.
	For five months.
	Yeah.
	And you said you were single.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that sounds like.
	I don't know if it's totally a boyfriend, but that sounds like not exactly single.
	Oh, you tell him that.
	Huh?
	You tell him that.
	Are you scared that if you have you, okay.
	Have you asked him, hey, I want to, where is this going?
	Have you tried to have that conversation?
	I don't really want to have that conversation yet.
	Is it because you know that the answer is going to be answered?
	Wait, you know that the answer is what?
	That it would be like, yeah, we want to date, but right now we're just.
	Oh, so you don't want a relationship?
	No, no, no.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, if you know what the answer is going to be, that he would want to be in a relationship with you, but you don't want to.
	Yes, but like we're still, we're like, you know, like.
	We or you?
	We.
	We've talked about it.
	Like, we've talked about being exclusive.
	We talked about.
	Okay, what was the cost?
	What was the content?
	What was the content of that conversation?
	Well we're only seeing each other.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Okay, so you talked about being exclusive.
	it almost sounds like you're in a relationship but just not taking the title or the the what okay I don't think you're single.
	You might not technically have a boyfriend, but I don't know if you're single.
	Sounds like a well-developed, exclusive situationship.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	You guys just don't want to give the title then, I guess.
	Yeah, not yet.
	Not yet.
	We're still seeing how things are going.
	Because like dating, like you meet each other's families and you know.
	During the time that you've been seeing him, at any point, you said you started seeing him in July, early July.
	At any point, maybe early on before you had the exclusivity conversation, were you dating other people and was he dating other people?
	No.
	So you've been exclusive for then essentially exclusive.
	Yeah, I wasn't seeing anybody before during, well, a little bit before, and then during like talking to him, I was like going into.
	Okay, I see.
	Okay.
	You're married, so you're single.
	So what does that look like to you right now?
	To me.
	Yeah.
	Being single, it means I don't have a boyfriend.
	So I don't have anyone who have asked me to be their girlfriend.
	Okay.
	So basically, I go on dates.
	I love going on dates here because I'm exploring and I'm exploring American dating culture, American men, and myself as well, how I am good along with, go along with this and so on.
	Sure.
	So, yeah.
	Reminder, how long have you been in the U.S.?
	Three months.
	Okay.
	And you said you're dating, like, how many dates would you say you're going on in like a week?
	You know, I don't count, but usually it may vary.
	Okay, it might be two dates, for example.
	But my last one happened about two weeks ago, for example.
	But I had some weeks when I saw, for example, three person.
	In a day?
	No, no, no, in a week.
	Anyway.
	Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
	Okay, I see.
	All right.
	And so you said you were, before you moved here, you were in Moscow, and before that, Belarus.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So I'm just curious, maybe you can give us like a brief comparison when it came to dating in Belarus, dating in Russia.
	I assume it's pretty similar between Belarus and Moscow, although compared to here, what were some of the differences?
	You know, I would not say everyone told me, and from mass media, we all heard probably that there are plenty of differences, that, you know, all these kind of 50-50 cultures, so equalities, equities, feminines, and all this stuff.
	But in fact, I don't see this.
	I see beautiful American men who looks great, who has their career, who are educated, and they all want to, I don't know, to impress a girl, to take girl out, to take care of a girl, to ask where, like, for example, me want to go and so on.
	But of course, you know, what I see here, that men has lower expectation on girl than men in Moscow.
	What I mean, that men in Moscow are spoiled because there are less men than women, statistically.
	Okay?
	So, and is this also the case in Belarus too?
	Of course, yeah.
	In all Slavic countries, because of World War II.
	Because men died during the World War II, and we don't renovate the population of men.
	Well, you're historical aspect.
	You are 36, right?
	Yeah, right.
	Well, World War II was 70 plus years ago.
	Yeah, but population still didn't.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm not educated on this topic, but there's still a lot of differential.
	Yes, and our men died more often than women.
	So we basically have less men, if you will.
	Russia is in the midst of war right now.
	Exactly.
	That could also be a contributing factor.
	Yeah.
	So our men are spoiled and they have high expectations that ladies should look, for example, you know, a certain way.
	So in Moscow, for example, it's not very common that you will go on a date like more in a casual way.
	So you will dress up to show your best, for example.
	Here, I feel more, you know, more kind of myself, more calm, that guys will not tell me or will not show like only jeans or something like that.
	You know, here they are very appreciative to, wow, you make make up, wow, you dress up for me.
	I hear it everywhere.
	And they want to contribute to this quality time together.
	For example, they ask for like going for dinners or ask for like, do you need any help with anything?
	So it's really, really cool.
	I love and I'm very excited to go on dates and meeting people here because most of them are very nice.
	I see.
	Okay.
	You're very lucky girls.
	Here, absolutely.
	Because, you know, I heard this stereotype that like man will ask you to pay or to share the bill, or you know, he will expect you, for example, to commute some somewhere by your car.
	But as I'm new here, I don't have a car yet, so everyone like picked me up and they are very worried about my safety.
	So they're pretty cautious.
	You know they're kind of, is it okay if I will pick you up, or how you will commute?
	I said yeah okay, I just make a picture of your car for my friends, like so to be sure that I'm saying, okay okay, I understand you, it's fine right okay interesting yeah, interesting.
	So are you saying that American men are more gentlemanly than the men that you dated in Moscow?
	Or I can't say it.
	They eager to be gentlemen.
	And when you, a woman allow, I allow, I'm traditional, I'm very traditional, I was a bring to traditional, you know, model.
	When I allow them to open the door, because I'm waiting until they will open the door, or you know, I'm very appreciative.
	If they arrange something for us, I say thank you so much.
	It's like super cool for me, okay.
	Or if they give me a ride or anything, they are very happy.
	I see this happiness in their eyes and say wow wow, I was so happy to to meet you, or something like that.
	Okay, I have another question.
	Can I just have you tilt your mic down just a little bit like that?
	Perfect, perfect.
	You said that the men in Russia or in Belarus, they have a lot of expectations.
	What were some of those you mentioned to appear or dress a certain way, but were there any other expectations in terms of behavior?
	Actually, no, in Russia, in Belarus, it's very common that it's even not negotiable in mostly cases.
	Of course, there are exceptions, but I'm generalizing, of course.
	But there is no any idea, possible idea that man will not pay the bill after the dinner.
	So that men will start this discussion or like, you know, it kind of doesn't work like this.
	It's 100% the man pays.
	99% that he will pay.
	Whereas here in the U.S., it's a bit more.
	I heard.
	You're not sure.
	That's what you heard.
	Yeah, I heard.
	Although your experience seems to be different.
	Just, you know, just once a man, no one asked me to pay.
	No one.
	I can say more than a lot of people.
	I haven't dated just a lot of people because I have my transition period.
	I'm kind of busy with settling down.
	But from the people who I dated, a lot offered help.
	For example, with driving license, for example.
	Like, oh, you can use my car, you can drive, I can teach you driving, and you can use my car for driving tests.
	Or one guy, for example, bought me groceries.
	You know.
	Bought you groceries.
	Yes, yes, yes, because I'm in a transition period, I can share if you, yeah, so it was a story.
	I'm on Hinge, and I love dating apps because maybe I have my journalistic soul, and I love reading their profiles about people, and, you know, create my assumption because as a journalist, I met a lot of people and used to kind of make conclusions what the people like and so on.
	And yeah, and we met on Hinge.
	He asked me to go on date.
	He asked me about his situation and my situation.
	Yeah, how long I've been here and so on.
	So he was involved into help to refugees.
	And yeah, we met for coffee.
	He told me plenty of stuff where I can get some help or support or get acquainted with people.
	And then he asked me, you know, I want to help you with anything I can.
	What do you need right now?
	So my car, my time is yours right now.
	So I said, oh, I need to go grocery because I can't afford going every day because I don't have a car.
	So I need to kind of adjust.
	And he said, yeah, let's go to groceries.
	So I picked groceries.
	I was going to pay myself.
	But he said, no, no, no, I will buy it to you.
	He paid like $41, you know.
	But I feel that if I bought some more, he would buy, you know.
	Sounds like a simp.
	Sounds like a simp.
	But wait, so you, okay, you came here three months ago.
	Are you, I heard, you said, are you a refugee?
	Not yet.
	I came here under humanitarian parole.
	I'm in a transition period.
	Okay.
	I'm waiting for my papers being done, and I can't work right now because I'm waiting for papers.
	So, yep.
	But so you've applied for, what is it, asylum?
	Asylum, yeah, asylum seekers.
	Asylum, political asylum seekers.
	And do they provide, I'm not familiar with this, do they provide some sort of support?
	Do they give you money, help you with housing?
	I'm super appreciative to this country because I haven't done to this country anything yet, but they already gave me money for food, food stamps, and like Cold Fresh.
	I'm not sure in names, but like this medical insurance, of course.
	So they provide me with like around $300 per month and something extra.
	So you know, I'm very appreciative to everything.
	Yeah.
	Was it like a trek?
	Was it a journey to arrive here in the United States?
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's what political asylum seeker is making.
	Did you just take a flight from Moscow?
	You know, you would like to bring someone here?
	Huh?
	No, no, I'm just curious.
	I'm just curious.
	Because you were in Russia.
	Absolutely.
	You came here three months ago.
	My understanding, I don't know if they've reduced some of the.
	I'm pretty sure you can't just, like, I couldn't just go to Russia right now.
	You can.
	I can?
	I thought we're.
	Wait, isn't there like a travel ban?
	I think I know people who have.
	No, I have people who have American passport and they've only American passport.
	Well, can a Russian person come here is a better question.
	How can Russian person came?
	Can someone who's Russian come here to the U.S.?
	I don't know.
	No, they can.
	They can.
	Why?
	If they have a visa?
	It's just political questions, of course, not dating, but like.
	Well, I think because of the, I thought because of the ongoing war or whatever, there were certain restrictions.
	I can share more with you if you're super interested.
	No, I'm just because of it.
	I'm just curious.
	Yeah, if you have a visa, you can come.
	And for example, my case, I came like a political asylum seeker because I'm a journalist and there are some risks, you know.
	Wait, did you go, did you, when you came here, were you in Belarus or were you in?
	No, I have been living in Moscow for nine years, but I'm a Belarusian citizen.
	I see.
	Yeah.
	And could a man come here for asylum?
	Yes, absolutely.
	Everyone can come.
	And everyone, the United States allows, yeah.
	Okay, interesting.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I think you were saying a little bit more about the expectations of the men in Russia, Belarus.
	Yeah, so they expect having a nice lady, right, at a date, a nice girl.
	And probably, as I heard as well, that they don't expect any intimacy to fast.
	Because I heard, I haven't faced it because I'm a very traditional person in this direction, but I heard that American men might be expecting very fast developing of relationship.
	Like third date, being together, or first date or second date, it's fine here.
	That's a reasonable timeline.
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	I like that timeline.
	That's a good idea.
	No, but do you agree?
	Like, right?
	Is it true?
	Or is it like do you expect any intimacy on the first, second, or third date?
	It's not an expectation, but me personally, my view on it is I don't feel that it's necessary to wait some arbitrary period of time before being intimate with somebody.
	Perhaps if she's a virgin, it might make sense to wait.
	But absent that, frankly, most of my long-term relationships I've had that we didn't wait long periods of time.
	It was the first, second, or third day typically that we hooked up.
	I feel, and I wouldn't like, some men might judge women if they hook up too soon.
	Me personally, I don't there.
	I think there are better indicators of a woman being potentially promiscuous or having a high body count than the quickness with which she gets intimate with you.
	So for me personally, it's not.
	I'm fine.
	It can be quick.
	But those relationships, they're over, right?
	Yeah, but just because the relationships ended isn't evidence that the way we just because we had sex quick doesn't mean that that was necessarily the cause of the relationships not making it the distance.
	Yeah, the cause is different because you really haven't.
	Okay, it's going to be longer.
	No, I mean, for the relationship to be successful, two people have to communicate and discuss absolutely everything.
	Yeah.
	They have to create the plan how things are going to be developing in their relationship.
	Like run through every possible situation that could go, that could happen.
	And they have to really, when people are saying get to know one another better, you've got to ask yourself a question.
	What are you trying to get to know?
	Is it about wasting the time and just stretching the time?
	Or is it actually about getting to know something?
	So the sexual aspect, I mean, there's two ways how you're looking at, you know, getting closer in that respect.
	It's either movement of the body, physical aspect, or is it about making love?
	So making love, it is the connection of all of the energies.
	Like when you are together, you are one channel, you are one soul, you are connecting.
	That's where you're making love.
	It is not about just having sex.
	It is about making love.
	And that is like the highest level of the relationship you can imagine.
	And to get to that level, you got to get to know the person really better.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	And both men and women, they are entitled to move however they want.
	If somebody wants to wait, that's totally fine.
	I have no issues with wanting to wait.
	I think my issue stems more so from if your previous standard with the past 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 men that you've slept with was, I'll sleep with him instantly, but then you finally, you, born-again virgin or whatever, now you're changing and now you want to wait until marriage.
	Now you want to wait three months.
	I just think that's kind of entirely arbitrary and you didn't have the standard in the past.
	Now I feel like you're holding me to a different standard that you held.
	Oh, Nick, we have something for this.
	the the flower cuck thing this is how it feels like when so okay it's a little vulgar but so you're the guy with the flowers and the suit but then you've like this is how it feels This is how it feels if it's like, okay, oh, your previous 20 partners, you slept with them instantly, but I'm the guy who has to wait until marriage and do all these romantic gestures.
	So it's not.
	No, I'm not talking about her treating you different than other guys.
	talking about somebody who has already standards in uh you know i would but i would argue most most women i would say most women don't move that way They don't move which way?
	Most women, it's not like every single guy I've slept with, I waited three months to sleep with him.
	I'm not saying all women, but I'd say most women.
	Okay, so if somebody has already right standards, you know, also Christian values, and it is also in the Bible, you gotta get involved sexually after there is an engagement read or there is people who already have a lot of people.
	Well, I think the Bible says no premarital sex at all.
	Yes.
	Well, we're living in the modern world, so it is a little bit harder to do, of course.
	Exactly.
	We are living in the modern world.
	Yeah, but to engrave standards where people really get to know one another.
	And I'm not saying that women should be treating you different than the other guys.
	Absolutely not.
	I'm talking about the woman who already has right standards and she treated other people the same way.
	That's totally valid.
	And look, even if you, let's say you had 100 previous sexual partners as a woman and you slept with all of them on the first night, it's 100% within that woman's choice to, okay, my new standard moving forward is I'm not having sex till marriage.
	That's 100, she's 100% within her right to make that determination.
	However, what I'm saying is looking at it from the guy's perspective, that's not a woman that I would take seriously.
	That's not a woman that I would wait for marriage for.
	I'd be like, well, we have a difference.
	We don't align on what we're looking for when it comes to this relationship.
	I wish you well.
	Nice meeting you.
	Take care.
	Because in that scenario, I feel like I'm a sucker.
	All the other guys, like, I feel like I would feel like a sucker in that situation.
	I feel like that would cause so much self-doubt in the person because you've seen the person do this over and over and over.
	Yeah.
	And then they come to you and it's like, well, what?
	Have you just got it all out of your system?
	And now I'm just chop lover that you just want to have a conversation with.
	And, you know, I feel like that would be not sexually attractive.
	Exactly.
	And then it's just a downspiral that I feel like would affect the rest of the relationship because those first, you know, couple weeks, couple months are so important.
	So then for the rest of the relationship, that's going to be something in the back of your mind.
	Am I not sexually appealing to my girlfriend, fiancé, wife, whatever?
	And then that's just, you know, it's like the snowball effect.
	Yes.
	Yeah, definitely.
	And I mean, like I said, you previously had 100 one-night stands and now you want to wait until marriage.
	That's 100% your call.
	But I can't take that seriously.
	I wouldn't take that seriously.
	So I just, that's not somebody I would wait for.
	So I just agree.
	Yeah, typically, well, yeah, typically when you are connected deeper with the person you're trying to develop a relationship with, then you will end up in a successful marriage, successful relationship, and without a divorce.
	I mean, there is a formula to that.
	Sure.
	Yeah, I mean, look, and there are genuinely women that throughout most of their life or all their life, that has genuinely been their standard for all the men that they've ever been intimate with.
	And I think in that scenario, it's valid.
	And I also acknowledge that women are in the sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't position, because there's this also corresponding if we as men say, well, we don't, obviously it would be better for you to cease your promiscuity.
	Like if a woman is or was promiscuous, yeah, maybe cease being promiscuous.
	But also, there are also men who are like, well, if you don't match up with him, because if you wait too long to have sex, then he might also lose interest.
	So.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Or he will take you seriously and propose and get married and you're happy.
	Married people have more sex than single ones.
	It's statistics, okay?
	So it's good to be in the relation in the marriage.
	Well, I don't believe in marriage.
	I'm not in favor of marriage.
	But to each their own.
	To each their own.
	I don't believe in marriage.
	I think it's an L for men, but other men can feel differently about it.
	I have no, if other people want to get married, that's fine, but just be well informed about the risks of marriage, especially on the financial risks for men.
	So, okay, well, let's move on.
	So you're single.
	You said you've been single for a year.
	Yeah.
	You got a little sneaky thing going on?
	What's up?
	Sneaky.
	Sneaky link.
	Sneaky link.
	No, just trying to date.
	I'm like on six or seven dating apps.
	I'm on a lot of dating apps right now.
	How many?
	Probably less than 10.
	Okay.
	Tinder Bumble Hinch, Christian Mingle, Farmers Only.
	I think she's on a few of those.
	Wait, yeah, sorry, you got your boyfriend.
	My bad man.
	That's how you guys met.
	Farmers only.
	Farmers only.
	You're on 10 dating apps?
	Hello.
	Close to 10.
	Yeah, I lost count.
	List them.
	So, okay, Cupid, Bumble, Hinge.
	Yep.
	Is that Tinder?
	Four.
	Okay.
	There's two foreign ones that I can't even pronounce.
	Foreign.
	Oh, that's right.
	That's right.
	We have some notes here, I think, about this.
	You, hold on, let me pull up the notes.
	Have a thing for Asian men.
	Yeah.
	Good for you.
	Good for you.
	Do you have any, in your previous show notes here, you provided a few things.
	I can prompt you if you'd like, but you said you have thoughts on Asian male and black female desirability politics.
	Yeah.
	And you said, I believe Asian males and black females are experiencing the worst of the dating market and get misjudged quite often.
	Yeah.
	Go into that.
	Go into that.
	What are your thoughts there?
	Well, I mean, it's already been revealed with the study that came out from OKCupid about just who was getting, I guess, the most swipes and who was getting the least.
	And it turned out to be Asian men and black females.
	And which is kind of surprising, I guess, because, I mean, that's my preference is I like Asian men.
	So to me, they're like, they're great.
	And I'm like, I don't know what other, I guess, women, white other women may not like.
	I don't know what they're not seeing either.
	Yeah.
	Not that I'm not gay or anything, but if I was, I would date Asian men.
	Okay, good sense.
	So I will say this.
	Wait, question.
	How long have you, because you're 34, correct?
	Yeah.
	For your, like, has this been an interest when it comes to Asian men your whole life?
	Or is this something new?
	Tell us about that.
	Pretty much.
	So, well, because I was born in Wisconsin and there's like a large population.
	Oh, so no, no.
	So in the 90s, where I was at in Wisconsin, it was like a good population size of Asians there.
	And yeah, so it was some stuff happening in my household where I just wasn't getting treated well.
	And I befriended this Asian guy who he basically let me take shelter at his place and was a friend to me when I was just going through a bunch of stuff.
	And so ever since then, I've just always had an attraction to how old were you?
	When you were in the sh you needed shelter.
	Yeah, I was 14, 15 years old.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And since then, you've had a hyper fixation on dating Asian men.
	Well, no, no, no.
	So I've dated.
	Nothing wrong with that, though.
	Good for you.
	Yeah, I've dated different types.
	It's just that I've always felt different types of Asians?
	Like Koreans, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Thai, Japanese.
	Yeah.
	Filipino.
	Uh, yeah.
	Actually, yeah.
	Like you naming, yeah.
	You can keep going.
	Laos.
	Mongolian.
	Did I get Korean?
	Did I get Korean?
	Korean.
	Did I get Korean?
	Chinese.
	Chinese.
	Yeah, I can't forget that.
	Not Laos, though.
	But yeah, no, I've dated different kinds of guys.
	It's just like Khmer.
	The what?
	Khmer.
	Did I say it right?
	I don't think so.
	Not yet.
	But yeah, I would say, yeah, I'm open to all types.
	It's just I've always kind of like, I don't know, trended back toward Asian men.
	Have you dated black men?
	I've dated one.
	One?
	White guys?
	Latino men?
	I've dated three.
	Of which?
	White.
	Latino men?
	Okay, so in order from like most to least, with the Asian guys, probably about seven or eight.
	With white guys, probably like three.
	Black guys, one.
	Latin men, zero.
	Okay, all right.
	Now, you said you've dated like eight Asian guys?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And so break down the ethnicity, I guess.
	All the ones you named.
	So all of them?
	Except for them.
	Because it could have been like three Korean dudes.
	It could have been three Filipinos.
	So Vietnamese, two Chinese, two or three Korean.
	Okay.
	Then...
	Now, do you consider Indian men Asian?
	I think they're attractive, but I don't consider them the same only because Asian men have said that to me.
	So I'm like, okay, you know, if y'all say that you're not the same, then okay.
	You know, I respect that.
	Now, okay.
	You said that you've been in three love triangles involving Asian men.
	What do you mean, how so?
	What does that mean?
	Like you were dating multiple Asian men at the same time.
	No, no, it happened at different times where so when I look see blues donated $101.11.
	Okasaka, what would you say to someone who has almost given up on finding love?
	How does your service reignite that hope?
	What is it just over who has almost given up on finding love?
	How does this work?
	Well, yeah, so I would find out first what is the reason of why the person has given up on love.
	So there is always the way we are, the way we react to things, the way we act, there is always deep reason why it is happening.
	So we got to look in the root of what had caused that.
	And so if the person does want to find love or does want to achieve anything, doesn't matter if it is business or the relationship or whatever, if they really truly want it, we just look at their reason and we help the person to get that.
	But yeah, no matter what we want to achieve in life, it's absolutely possible if the desire is there.
	So just got to look inside, look at the root.
	Gotcha.
	I'm going to read two chats here while we have them.
	Cam H, Arigato, Brian.
	Hey, Cam H, thank you, man.
	I think, were you trying to trigger this as the Japanese voice?
	Unfortunately, yeah, it was under the trigger, but hey, thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	Good to see you in the chat.
	I think, I don't know if you were here last show, but we missed you, man.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Very much appreciated.
	Nick, can you pull up Twitch really quick?
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	All right, let's see.
	Oh, and I have one more chat here.
	Um, actually, I'll come back to that one.
	Um, your love triangle with the Asian men.
	Yeah, so on the dating apps, I specify that I'm pretty much looking for open relationship and just something simple.
	Um, I'm not trying to rush into anything serious, and so and so, yeah, I pretty much open myself up to, I guess, triangles, like love triangles.
	Um, and and so, yeah, like I'll just be dating a guy, and if he has interest in somebody, Mike, sorry, um, so yeah, I'll be dating or talking to a guy, and if he has interest in somebody else, um, yeah, I mean, it happens.
	Well, you said you were in three love triangles, yeah, three different ones when you say love triangle, does it mean you were dating two men at the same time?
	Because I think in love triangle, there's are they somewhat related in a triangle?
	No, so when I said triangle, I meant like I'm interested in a guy, and then the guy's like interested in someone else.
	So, he's basically seeing two girls.
	Oh, okay, yeah, triangle in that way, but I'm not seeing I've never seen multiple guys at the same time, no, but you said you're looking for an open relationship.
	I am, I don't get it, explain that.
	Uh, just because I don't, I mean, just the physics of it alone, like I don't physics, yeah.
	I mean, just like for a woman, physics, well, yeah, I mean, for a woman, it's like, okay, like I could say, like, yeah, I'm, you know, I want to date other guys or whatever, but I, when I say physics, I mean, like, just to having having that much sexual interaction and being just poke poke, like by multiple, like, no, like, no, no, no, it's true, it's true, fair enough, fair enough.
	Okay, so you're saying it wasn't you that was in the triangle insofar as dating multiple people, the men that you had been dating, the Asian men you were dating, they were dating other people too.
	Yeah, okay, interesting, okay.
	Uh, let's see what else.
	You also said how Asian customs, American standards of male attraction, and being rejected based on those standards affects the mental health of Asian men.
	Did you want to add a bit on that?
	Yeah, so going back to like the study, right, and that being exposed, and you know, them Asian men having trouble with dating.
	I think it's due to a few different things.
	So, so one thing is obviously like cultural cultural difference, right?
	Because it's a custom for them to kind of it's called like saving faze is kind of what I've heard from a guy who is Chinese, basically like just kind of biting their tongue and fitting in and just kind of not really standing up for themselves Is how it could be perceived by American women,
	but it's very common in their culture.
	And so that's one thing I feel like kind of harms them.
	And then also the standards of attractiveness, right, is also not, it's very outside of what their body type is.
	I think what American women like.
	Also, just women rejecting them based on that, right?
	Hold on, I got an idea.
	Yo, any Asian men watching the show right now, send her a fucking DM.
	And by the end of the show, we're going to see how many Asian men have DM'd her, okay, right?
	Your DMs are open for Asian men.
	Is that what that's right?
	I mean, my.
	You said you like Asian men.
	Might as well.
	I've got like seven apps.
	She's got seven.
	You said ten apps first off.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What are the that you're saying?
	You're on an Asian dating app.
	Is that right?
	Yeah.
	What do they call it?
	Have you, do you just like, are you like a passport bra?
	What is it?
	Passport gal?
	No.
	Have you been to any Asian countries?
	I think we got our first passport gal.
	She's you're what have you.
	What do you know about passport bros?
	That's why I came here.
	Wait, what?
	Nothing.
	No, but you're like a passport gal.
	You mean like I like foreign or exotic men?
	Is that what you mean?
	Well, you like Asian men, so I mean, maybe that means Asian American men.
	Well, certainly it could mean that.
	But also, I mean, if you want to, you could go to Japan.
	Oh, so I'm not Korea, China.
	I'm not even going to lie.
	Like, as soon as I touched down here, I opened up my Tinder.
	Like, I'm in Los Angeles.
	I heard it was like more.
	There's a good amount.
	No.
	There's a good amount.
	Is there a way to unhinge?
	I'm pretty sure.
	Do you pay for the premium so that you can select only matching with Asian men?
	There's only three of the apps where I'm actually paying for, like the special features.
	The other ones I'm not.
	Okay.
	But of the apps that you do pay for the special features and where it does allow you to filter by ethnicity, do you filter specifically for Asian men?
	Some apps don't allow it, but the ones that do, yes.
	Okay, so okay, I see.
	And then you also wrote a portion of Asian females should separate from Asian males so Asian men can be more accessible to different races of women.
	I think they are doing that already, though, to be honest.
	Okay, so okay, so when I put that there, I was kind of hoping there would be certain guests here.
	That you were hoping there'd be Asian women?
	Well, because there was, I guess, like a couple girls in a previous podcast who like Asian women?
	Who did not like Asian men.
	And so that's why you wanted Madison.
	You wanted the menu.
	I wanted the beef.
	I really did.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah, she's gone for Thanksgiving, unfortunately.
	But yes, we have had some women.
	Well, we could go around the table.
	You guys, any racial preferences when it comes to dating?
	We'll go around the table starting with you.
	I like everybody.
	This girl.
	Okay.
	Here, let me.
	Because, look, there's some women that aren't attracted to Asian men.
	All right.
	There's women who aren't attracted to any.
	Some women don't like white guys.
	Some women don't like Mexicans.
	I don't know why.
	Some women don't like any race.
	You could put any race.
	Do you have a race preference?
	Here, I'll start.
	I'll start just to maybe ease you guys.
	Jesus Christ, it's like pulling teeth.
	I have a preference for white and Asian women.
	How about that?
	I could have guessed that, though.
	I like white and Asian.
	Don't get me wrong.
	You're like that meme where it's, where are the white women?
	I have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
	But, and get me, listen, but it's not like, like, I would date a black girl, I would date a Latina girl.
	It's not, you know.
	But do I have a preference in those two directions?
	Yes, I do.
	Go ahead.
	White men.
	Okay, there we go.
	There we go.
	All right.
	I threw myself under the bus a little bit.
	And now, okay.
	You prefer white men.
	Okay.
	Have you dated other races?
	Yeah, I've dated like Middle Eastern.
	Middle Eastern.
	What's your ethnicity?
	Are you Latino?
	Are you?
	I'm half Mexican, half Spaniard.
	Okay, got it.
	Have you dated any Latinos?
	In high school, yeah.
	I know while that.
	Okay.
	Black guys?
	One, yeah.
	Asian guys?
	One.
	I didn't date him, but it was like, you know.
	A one-night stand?
	Not a one-night stand.
	A two night stands.
	A three night stands.
	How many seven night stands?
	I don't do night stands.
	Well, seven night stands.
	So you met up with him.
	Yeah, I saw him multiple times.
	You had sexual intercourse with him?
	Yes, like SCBC.
	Oh my god, bro.
	Okay, okay, go ahead.
	I have a preference for a provider, but like racial?
	Preference?
	No.
	Okay.
	No racial preference.
	You have a provider preference.
	Okay.
	I want to come back to that.
	Provider preference.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	But no racial preference.
	Have you dated the Asian guy?
	I've stated around, you know, I don't have like a specific preference.
	Okay.
	I don't have a preference.
	No preference?
	No.
	What's your current boyfriend?
	Ish.
	Oh my god.
	Not so nice.
	He's black and white.
	Mix.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Your last boyfriend, what was.
	He was white.
	Your last boyfriend?
	He was white.
	Your husband is.
	White, yes.
	Also, Kazakhstan?
	No, he's American.
	Oh, he's American, okay.
	What about you?
	Last boyfriend was Middle Eastern, but living in Europe, so kind of European.
	Okay, I see.
	What about, oh, well, we know your preferences.
	What about you?
	White.
	White?
	Yeah.
	White.
	Oh, you said that a little bit.
	You said that a little bit too enthusiastically, Tessa.
	Is there something you want to tell us?
	No, I mean, I like, I have dated white people other than white people, other ethnicities of like in high school.
	Okay.
	As an adult, I like white people.
	White people.
	Okay.
	White men.
	I don't like women.
	Oh, okay.
	Excuse me.
	What about Asian women?
	Well, not romantically, but just women in general are pretty dope, but I'm just not romantical.
	I see, I see.
	Romantical?
	What about you?
	The last guy I did was white.
	Okay.
	But yeah, I don't have a preference.
	No preference.
	Okay, all right.
	So then would that still kind of be like nobody's dated?
	I've definitely heard.
	Well, I definitely think it's the case that I think a lot of women, even if they aren't ready to admit it, like I do think it's the case that, and I've heard it from them.
	So like they say, yeah, I just don't find Asian men attractive.
	They say that, not me.
	I didn't say that.
	I think they're going to support you too because I find Asian men attractive and I think that they have also all these family values.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	So yeah, I understand why you like them.
	So you find things attractive about them, but have you dated?
	No, I haven't, but I had acquaintances during my university years.
	So after Asian men stop being too shy and get used a little bit to like mates, you know, university mates, they show usually very care and behavior.
	They're nice friends, you know, they are very good in friendship and deep friendship.
	But they're shy sometimes.
	Yeah, that kind of goes back to what I was saying is that I think that's a cultural custom.
	You know, them just kind of like, you know, being reserved for the purpose of getting along and blending in.
	But yeah, I think they also show masculinity in a different way.
	So they may not be like outspoken or vocal, but then they'll be like the provider or yeah, family-oriented.
	So I think they are attractive and show masculine traits.
	They just show it in a different way.
	In actions, usually.
	No words, but more actions.
	And then just last thing from our notes here for you.
	You said success and challenges of, or you wanted to talk about success and challenges of transitioning from adult industry to professional work environment.
	So you said you used to dance.
	Were you doing anything else?
	Escorting.
	No, nothing like, oh, only escorting.
	No.
	Sugar daddies.
	Sugar daddies?
	Be honest.
	No.
	Okay.
	So just the dancing, right?
	Transition from like dancing to bartending to taking some of that money and going back to school and getting my nursing license.
	And so yeah, I've like transitioned from different like occupations and it's been a lot of emotions along the way because I'm having to pretty much evolve in each step, right?
	And so since I got my license, I have not done, I've literally only worked at one place that was nursing related and then I went right back to bartending and I've been struggling just trying to, I guess, be confident in myself, right?
	Because, you know, going from bartending.
	Here, here, I'm sorry, we just have to move on.
	Go ahead.
	What about you?
	About the singleness?
	Yeah, yeah, singleness.
	You said you've been single for six months?
	Yeah.
	Not dating anyone, not seeing anyone.
	Obstinate.
	Oh, abstinent.
	Celibate?
	Have you always been celibate?
	Yes.
	Always?
	Always.
	Oh, so you're a virgin?
	Yes, I am.
	Oh, so you're waiting until marriage?
	Yes, I am.
	Okay, all right.
	And you're a Christian.
	Let me see my notes here.
	Where did it go?
	Sorry, hold on.
	Wait, did you send us notes?
	Hold on.
	It's lost here.
	I can't find it.
	One sec.
	Oh, Reyna.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Okay, dating as a Christian.
	Okay, we'll come to that later.
	Now, is it you just haven't found the right guy, or you just are 100% like, I'm waiting until marriage before having, yeah, it's a requirement.
	Okay.
	The guy has to have the same moral standard in that, too.
	Sure.
	I don't even like entertain a guy that holds that.
	Okay.
	Oh, so we're not talking, this isn't like even born-again verdict, like never had sex.
	No, someone who like wouldn't hold that same standard.
	Like what I'm saying.
	I mean, for you, like, are you not a, because some people claim like born-again virgin, but you've just never seen it.
	No, I'm a, I'm a virgin.
	Okay, cool.
	There you go.
	Anybody else here?
	A virgin besides Nick?
	Bam.
	It's a good thing.
	He's waiting for the right girl.
	He's waiting for the right girl.
	Oh, there you go.
	Well, Nick has a girlfriend, so he has high standards.
	What?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	I'm just kidding.
	Nick doesn't have a bunch of.
	Okay.
	Well, bam.
	Sorry.
	Bam.
	Here, let me do a couple.
	I'm going to do a couple chats.
	Then I've got some crucial questions coming up.
	Some mind-breaking questions that will be interesting.
	Okay, Mike Divestor went from episode 100 to 1 at 1 today.
	And Brian, let me tell you, man, you're so much better now than then.
	Great job, man.
	Keep it up.
	Hey, dude, thank you, man.
	you know we've done over this is episode 120 Still not where I want to be.
	You know, I'd obviously like to be a little quicker on the uptake.
	And sometimes I could articulate my thoughts a little better, and sometimes I stutter and whatnot.
	But thank you, man.
	Just trying to improve little by little.
	Thank you.
	And then we have, here, hold on, let me pull up these chats over here.
	We have, here, let me pull this one up.
	This came in a while ago.
	Derek the trader, question for the ladies.
	Can you name three things you are willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams?
	Let's start with you.
	Go ahead.
	Three things you are willing to give up.
	I don't think I necessarily do anything bad that I'd be willing to give up.
	Like in which sense?
	I'll list a couple and if this resonates with anybody.
	So for example, doing OnlyFans.
	Going out to bars, clubs, parties, drinking, maybe even posting provocative photos on an Instagram.
	What are some other things?
	I mean, to me, this is almost obvious.
	Like it's almost, it should be default, but not being promiscuous.
	Let me ask you, would you, would you Instagram or a husband?
	Husband.
	Well, considering I'd have to limit myself in certain ways.
	That just seems like kind of a controlling aspect.
	So I don't know if I'd consider him the man of my dreams if he were asking me to abstain from certain things.
	Although there are like promiscuity, like you mentioned, or like a bikini picture, like sure.
	but I don't think that would be the man of my dreams, really.
	Abstaining from, when you said abstaining from certain things and that being controlling, what specific things would you view as that would fall under controlling?
	Oh, like just saying like you can't do so-and-so.
	Such as, give us an example.
	Like what you just said.
	Oh, like what you just listed.
	Like going out to clubs and parties and bars.
	Yeah.
	What about having an OnlyFans?
	Well, that's sure.
	I don't.
	Is that controlling, though, for a guy to not want his girl to continue or start an OnlyFans?
	I just think that wouldn't probably be the man of the person's dreams, probably, if he was.
	Of your dreams?
	Of my dreams?
	Yeah.
	Personally, I don't have one, so that's not really like something.
	You don't have what?
	An OnlyFans, so I wouldn't have a problem with that.
	No, but so for you specifically, what things would you view as controlling?
	Just having me not like, like the things you mentioned.
	Like, I just want to be the man of my dreams if he was trying to not have me do certain things.
	But which of the things?
	Because I said stopping being promiscuous, perhaps stopping an OnlyFans.
	My general view, though, is it's probably like it's I think it is generally speaking suboptimal to probably initiate dating someone who does OnlyFans, but that's fine.
	Like I said, you just probably want to be the man of my dreams if you're struggling with me.
	But what specific things would it be?
	Well, I don't do much that's like out of bounds or like whatever.
	Like, I don't know.
	Okay, he didn't want you going out to bars and clubs and parties and drinking.
	That's fine.
	Like, if he'd be there, like, that's fine.
	Well, because you said of the things I've listed, that would be controlling, but now you said, now you're saying it's fine.
	So I feel like compromise and communication make the difference.
	I don't really know how to answer the question other than like.
	But you specifically said it would be controlling.
	which of the ones that I listed do you consider to be controlling?
	Controlling.
	Like if I just, if he's really just like limiting, like, I don't know.
	Limiting how?
	How would can you try to articulate specifically what a guy could do that you would view that as controlling?
	Like prohibiting your friendships or who you could see.
	Oh, okay.
	So for example, like he didn't want you hanging out with an ex-boyfriend or male friends.
	Oh, no.
	Well, I respect that.
	And I would not find that controlling.
	So of course there's like compromises and communicating and like all that, but I don't know.
	Okay.
	I just think like an overbearing controlling or like you cannot do this.
	Do what?
	But do what?
	Articulate what?
	Like say maybe you had an OnlyFans in the past or something.
	Okay.
	And then like you just like communicate basically to it.
	But I don't know.
	I'm just, I'm kind of done with this question.
	Well, I'm trying to get a straight answer out of you.
	Men of my dreams, communicate.
	Communicate.
	Okay.
	Here.
	So the original question was, can you name three things you're willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams?
	Clubbing, because I don't really do that.
	Maybe bikini pictures.
	Okay, sure.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Would you give up your Instagram and your OF and your clubbing?
	You didn't even let me into it.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Maybe there's other things you can think of.
	I mean, like the last time I was on, I said how I gave up my OnlyFans, but fucked me over.
	Am I allowed to cuss?
	Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
	Okay, he messed me up.
	What messed you up?
	He fucked me over.
	I don't want to cuss.
	But yeah, I would give up my OnlyFans.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I would give out going to the club.
	And.
	Capital.
	I told you I have.
	I have.
	I deleted my OnlyFans, and then a week later, like you have a week after you delete it, you have a week to if you want to restart it again, if you like change your mind.
	After that week, I found out he was cheating on me with like multiple women and I restarted my stuff again.
	Good times.
	Very good times.
	Third thing, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Just anything.
	I don't know.
	Go ahead.
	Three things.
	Assuming you like if maybe.
	If I was single.
	So if he is the man of my dreams, then it is accurate estimation that I'm a woman of his dreams.
	So if we are together, then we would be discussing what we need to give up for our mutual growth and mutual benefit.
	So whatever it is, we're thinking about us.
	So it doesn't have to be three things.
	It could be a million things, you know?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think I can, I could give up everything that would hurt his feelings.
	If he would explain it to me and said, yeah, for example, I never met my ex after we broke up, for example.
	But if he would have asked me, no, I would not see them.
	What about you?
	I would give up or give him my womb if he's the right guy, because I've protected my womb so much and have waited to get kit, you know, have kids.
	So I'd be willing to have kids if you wanted to.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Let's pull up her Instagram.
	For example, my Instagram?
	Do it, your Instagram.
	Oh, yeah, do it.
	Yeah.
	Like, let's say your boyfriend was like, Tessa, I want this photo and this photo and this photo down.
	Would you be down for it or would you?
	Yeah, I'd have him explain it, obviously.
	And I would expect mutual respect where I could do the same thing with him and be like, hey, you know, I'm not really feeling this photo on your Instagram.
	You're getting a lot of.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	You know, scroll down, scroll down.
	Even that top one, he took it and he told me he wanted me to post it.
	Oh, he's fine with it?
	Yes.
	Scroll back, like this, you know, maybe the bikini one.
	He's in those as well.
	Once you scroll past him, he's in it.
	Scroll back up.
	Scroll back up, Nick.
	By the way, the tattoo, what's that say, shame?
	It says shame, yes.
	I'm actually curious on that.
	What's the origin story there?
	I used to struggle a lot with my appearance growing up in Santa Barbara and wearing pearl snaps and boots and belt buckles is a very odd thing, especially going to Santa Barbara High School.
	You know, it's being the weird horse girl.
	I felt very shame.
	I felt a lot of shame about it.
	I didn't like where I came from.
	I didn't like, you know, that I was the girl with the chickens or, you know, things like that.
	And I got it when I was about that tattoo when I was about 17.
	And I just came to the conclusion where I was like, I have that on my body, you know, now, obviously, for the rest of my life.
	And when I look at it, I remember those times.
	And it just kind of reminds me to get the fuck over it.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm going to dress how I want.
	I'm going to look how I want.
	I'm going to act how I want.
	And I'm not going to feel shameful about it.
	Okay.
	There you go.
	Do you have an answer to this question?
	Not necessarily.
	I guess the biggest thing that I've like, I guess, dealt with in my past relationships is I'm like friends with guys.
	If I'm with you, and you don't feel comfortable with me hanging out with a guy friend, then like, yeah, you're like the number one person in my life.
	I don't really mind.
	Valid.
	Valid.
	We have Beat in Cheeks here.
	What have I missed?
	Just got back from Columbia and I see this disappointing panel looking of women.
	Not even Colombian women are hard up on getting a green card as these Eastern European gals do better.
	Okay, that's from Beat and Cheeks.
	Thank you, man.
	I appreciate it.
	have we have what did he say?
	He's being rude.
	Don John.
	Lady in Blue, how did you meet your husband?
	He actually, he was a client of my service.
	I was not the matchmaker working with him.
	Otherwise, he would be married to someone else if it was me.
	He was working with one of our matchmakers when his program ended.
	We went out on a date, and yeah, so the results are pretty much guaranteed, right?
	I mean, delivered.
	Yeah, he was a client, now he has a wife.
	So all good, right?
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	I had some notes here.
	Oh, I wanted to come back to when we were going around the table about racial preferences.
	You said that your preference is for provider.
	Now, how does that look to you?
	I think like financial stability, like providing financial benefits, and I think like adding just like a lifestyle, like a maintenance of a lifestyle, yeah.
	How so?
	Like I want to look good, so like, you know, maybe some like fashion money, some like, you know, keep my hair done, my nails.
	In your marriage, or just if you're just dating the guy?
	I think dating and then leading to marriage, yeah.
	Sure.
	How early on would you say you'd want a guy to start providing?
	Are you talking like an allowance type of thing?
	Like you want an allowance?
	Yeah, I think that'd be kind of nice.
	Okay.
	Have you had that with previous partners?
	Well, you said, okay, you were been single for three years, you were in a three-year relationship.
	In your three-year relationship, did you have that?
	Well, I was provided for, yeah.
	By the guy?
	How old was the guy?
	Well, we were young.
	We were like in a high school, like early college.
	Okay, so maybe 17 to 20?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So he was the same age as you?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so he was 17 to 20 and he was providing for you?
	Yeah.
	What was the allowance looking like?
	Oh, it was just like if I wanted something, yeah.
	He'd pay for it.
	Well, would he give you cash for you to pay for it?
	Did he give you his card?
	How did it look?
	Well, I wasn't like asking for too much.
	And I could kind of, you know, like I work and I take care of myself.
	But just like for a now stance, yeah, it'd be nice to for a now stance.
	But back then, you said he was providing for you to some degree.
	So, I mean, what would that look like?
	Was he paying for all the dates?
	Like, if you guys went out to go get food, for example?
	Yeah.
	He'd pay for all the dates?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would he buy you gifts?
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	He would sounded like if you wanted to get your nails done, would he do that?
	Yeah.
	Anything else that I'm missing?
	Other things?
	Not really, no.
	Trips?
	Yeah.
	Trips.
	How often would you go on trips?
	Not very often, but like maybe like once a year, twice a year.
	Can we get this girl an energy drink, please?
	Yes, please, actually.
	Go ahead.
	Get her.
	Not one of the mood ones, though.
	The get the F, the, I don't know what we have.
	Make sure it's not the mood one, though.
	That one's like for sleeping and shit.
	Get her a cup too, pour it in a cup.
	You want some nectar?
	That drink there?
	No, that's a seltzer.
	I mean, okay, so he would take you on trips.
	So how much like in a month do you think your boyfriend, who was your same age, was spending on you?
	Like a thousand bucks a month, maybe?
	I'd say maybe a little bit less than that, probably around that.
	If you had the estimate, 700, 500.
	500 to like 800 typically.
	But I wasn't really like doing too much at the time or asking for too much at the time, like I said.
	But he was spending on the low end, he was spending, let's say, $500 a month.
	I'd say, yeah.
	Okay.
	And you were dating him for three years.
	Hold on.
	Doing my math here.
	So that's $6,000.
	That's $6,000 a year times three, that's $18,000 over the course of the relationship that he spent on you.
	I would say I lived with his family, so his family was partially also helping me out at the time.
	You lived with his family?
	From the start of the relationship, or at what point?
	Like towards the end.
	Towards the end.
	Yeah.
	That's fine.
	But he was, well, okay, I mean, in any case, money originating from his household was being spent on you.
	Yeah, but I also had a job, so I would also, you know, find out what they're doing.
	Would also spend on him or no?
	Yeah, like I'd get him gifts and stuff, and yeah, like.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	That's pretty impressive.
	I think that's frankly pretty impressive for an 18 to 20 year old to be spending that amount of money on a girlfriend at that age.
	So, but you said moving forward, though, you said that you want a provider.
	You'd want all that and more, even.
	Okay, so first date, the guy should, I assume the guy should pay for the first date and all future dates, pretty much?
	I would prefer, yeah.
	You'd prefer.
	Okay, and then what are the other things that you would like?
	And you want these pretty much from the get-go, correct?
	Yeah.
	Like a guy to start taking care of you?
	Yeah, I earned money on my own.
	Sorry, hold on just a minute.
	Brian, I did not realize we had any hookers on this show.
	Yet here, one is.
	Ladies, do you consider yourself a feminist, and how has feminism failed you?
	We can go, we'll go around the table on that, and then we'll come back to the provider thing.
	So, do you consider yourself a feminist?
	No.
	Yes, in the way of making sure women have equal rights, there's a lot of polarization and radicalism within feminism, especially like seen recently.
	But yes, a feminist.
	Okay, so you do consider yourself a feminist and you want equal equality between, and that's, is it just with rights?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What about just like societally too?
	Yeah.
	You want equality societally?
	Yes.
	What about gender roles?
	Gender roles?
	I value traditional gender roles.
	Family.
	Sure, we'll come back to that.
	Go ahead.
	Do you consider yourself a feminist?
	I don't, but, you know, just definitely like, you know, support the people who are feminists or like equal rights for everyone.
	Because that's what feminism is about.
	Is it?
	War.
	Yeah.
	Feminist.
	I'm not sure about that, but okay, go ahead.
	No, I praise man.
	Feminism kills men.
	And it's so like.
	I don't consider myself a feminist.
	And me personally, I don't feel that my rights were limited or something like that.
	But I can.
	That's awesome.
	I'm not a feminist, but I think it's a lot of a fake feminist is kind of.
	Sure.
	I don't know if there's a feminist.
	What about you?
	No.
	Not a feminist?
	What about you?
	No, not at all.
	Not a feminist.
	Okay, wow.
	Okay.
	I was hoping we'd have a few more.
	You're a little outnumbered here.
	So you consider yourself a feminist, but in your pre-show notes and what you've just kind of talked about here, you said that you appreciate traditional values.
	So how do you consider yourself a feminist?
	How do you reconcile being a feminist but also wanting to, it sounds like to me, holding men to their traditional gender roles.
	How do you reconcile that?
	Not every woman lives the same lifestyle, so I think it's important that they have representation and say in the matter of how they go about business and that there's equality in the pay, equality in vote, equality in like, and also like minimization of sexism as well as like harassment in the work industry.
	You know, that's historical.
	Okay, you said minimization of sexism.
	Don't you think it's a rather sexist position to believe that men should be providers?
	I think that's like a traditional thing.
	But isn't it to some degree if that's your if you have an expectation on men by virtue of their gender to be providers, isn't that sexist?
	Why can't like why aren't women capable of equally contributing to a relationship or marriage?
	Well, I think they can be.
	And I would be contributing to my household as well, but I would just personally like to have a person that would like to provide for me.
	I don't really.
	That's traditional gender roles.
	How does that, again, how do you reconcile being a feminist but wanting traditional treatment from men, wanting men to pay for first dates, wanting, and it's like, I hear from a lot of women who say, I want the guy to pay for the first date, but after that, I'm kind of okay, actually, if we maybe trade off paying on dates.
	But it sounds like for you, you want immediately throughout the entire course of the relationship, you want a guy to provide for you.
	You want traditional treatment.
	And it sounds like you want him to pay your bills.
	You want an allowance.
	You want him to pay for your nails.
	If you go on trips, you want him to pay for it.
	Probably if you guys were living together, would you want him to pay the entire rent?
	Yeah.
	Okay, you had something?
	Go ahead.
	I'm going to use I feel statements here.
	Speak with your chest.
	Go ahead.
	I think what I'm hearing from you is that you'd prefer to keep the money that you have to yourself and have your husband provide for children, you, whatever.
	What I see in that is exactly what was brought up earlier about divorce, how men are in a worse position than women when it comes to things like that in marriage.
	I feel like that's kind of where that was set up, where the women are going to leave.
	They're going to have the money.
	They're going to have all this stuff, you know.
	And even when you were just saying, yes, I would like someone to pay for everything, pay for my bills, pay for my house, it was like, oh, this, like, yeah, I would love that.
	But in our reality, that's, it's, you're very contradicting when you speak about these things.
	You know, you say that, you know, you're a feminist, women should have equal rights.
	If women are having equal white rights, they would be paying 50% of a bill on a date.
	They would be paying a certain percentage.
	And I understand, you know, when I was in a relationship where I was splitting rent, I paid a little bit less rent because I made a couple dollars less than him.
	But it was still, in our, you know, in our thinking, it was still a 50-50 across the board.
	He would go buy dog food one week.
	The next week, I would go buy dog food.
	So I just feel like that is a setup for the man where you can get out of it whenever you'd like, but the man's gonna be fucked over in the end.
	That's what I see from it.
	Okay, I see what you're saying.
	And I don't mean to like come off as if I wouldn't be contributing anything financially.
	Like I'd be happy to also pay for like trips or like hold on, don't walk it back though.
	That's what I mean.
	That's how it's well, okay.
	I mean that's.
	But you said in your past relationship, the three-year relationship, even a man who is your own age and you were young, so I mean he.
	I don't think 18 year olds are exactly like 18.
	Especially 18 year old men are not balling out.
	I mean, I don't know if he came from a wealthy family or whatever, but it sounds.
	You said he was paying $500 a month to and you were living with him.
	So you're living rent-free.
	I know it's his parents house, but for a period of the relationship.
	But $500 a month for like, an 18 19, 20 year old, that's a that's a lot of money.
	That's $18,000 over the course of the relationship.
	Yeah, most, I would argue, like most 18 19, 20 year old men and women like your, earning potential is exactly the same.
	There's certainly, first off, I think the wage gap has been debunked, But there's there's, no, there's no case where an 18 year old man is has more earning potential at 18 than an 18 year old woman.
	I'd actually say it's the reverse women have at a early at a young age women have certain opportunities I'm not even speaking necessarily sex work here.
	I'm speaking like there's certain job opportunities for women that I think actually can pay more in that age range.
	But so okay, here you.
	You said, but you, you want traditional values.
	So sounds like you.
	You want the guy to be the provider.
	Let me ask, would you you want to get married one day?
	I would like to.
	Yeah, you want to have kids?
	Okay, when you get married, will you take your husband's last name?
	Yes, you'll take your his last name.
	Okay fair, that's traditional.
	You don't always hear that from from feminists.
	Is your husband the head of the household?
	Yes, but I do also.
	Yeah yeah, he'd be the head of the household okay, all right.
	Will you cook and clean?
	Yes, okay.
	Do you want to be?
	Oh well, do you want to be a stay-at-home wife?
	Well yes, that's kind of what I'm hoping for, because I also have, like my projects.
	Like I'm like I write poetry, so I'm an author, and then I have my art projects, and those are things that I can do from home as well.
	It's like I'm a caretaker, so I'm already nurturing, like my grandmother, on a daily basis.
	Okay yeah so okay, all right.
	How strongly do you consider yourself to be a feminist?
	Well that's, the thing is there's a lot of polarization, but I very much value, like the, the independence of women and women having their own rights and all that women having their rights and to be feminists.
	But do you think women say, for example, here in the United States, what is a right that a man, that I as a man have, that you as a woman does not?
	We've seen a lot of equality lately and that's what I mean, like the polarization, like things.
	I guess, just like that, you have that woman.
	Well, what you?
	You said that you're fighting for women's rights.
	What right do men have in this country that women do not.
	I'm just supporting women's rights.
	Rights, I should say.
	Which ones?
	All of them, like making sure they stay intact.
	But you already have a polarization.
	Like, yes, I'm like a feminist, but I'm not polarized to where we're already like super limited.
	I think like the Me Too movement, that's great, like making sure women are heard and valid.
	Okay.
	You know, stuff like that.
	But so, which right are you hoping to keep intact?
	Which right?
	Which right?
	Voting right?
	Do you think like two episodes ago, there was a man saying women shouldn't vote?
	And I was like, which I disagree with, which I disagree with.
	Yeah.
	But I think it's, I mean, that's, it's very, very, very unlikely that the 19th amendment is going to be repealed.
	I'm aware.
	That's not politically, what's the word for it?
	Tenable.
	I don't care if you're a Democrat, Democrat, well, certainly.
	Democrat.
	The Republicans are not going to repeal the 19th Amendment.
	I'm aware.
	Another thing, though, is like feminism as in representation, like in politics.
	Okay.
	Would be nice.
	There's a lot of controversy with, you know, like abortion and like the health maintenance of women and having accessibility to certain things.
	And I think that's something that women could.
	Okay, so but it's not clear to me if we're doing a so typically when we're talking about equality, equality with who, equality with what.
	And so when we're talking about women's rights, we're comparing them to supposed men's rights.
	So when you're talking about abortion, men don't have any reproductive rights at all.
	So it's not clear to me if that's a really a woman's, like a gender inequality insofar as since men don't have any reproductive rights, it's not clear if there's inequality there.
	Oh, there you go.
	Very well said.
	Poetic justice men have less rights than women, and that is an inescapable fact.
	Feminism has failed you.
	How can the patriarchy help you today?
	I am the official representative of the patriarchy.
	Welcome.
	Well, okay, I got a couple other questions.
	What do you think about equalizing the draft?
	Are you in favor of that?
	Sure.
	You down to get drafted?
	I think women have a lot of duties here, but World War III around the corner.
	I personally don't want to be drafted.
	I think most women would not want to go to war.
	Saying traditional values in that aspect.
	But equality.
	That's equality.
	That would be patriarchy.
	Wait, what about it?
	Exactly.
	Well, speaking of the patriarchy, going around the table, oh, we need paper towels.
	Sorry.
	Got a little spill here.
	I think they're.
	Yeah.
	Right here.
	Here, I'll grab it.
	The patriarchy.
	Going around the table, do you believe in the patriarchy?
	And if so, what is it?
	I'm not too educated on the patriarchy to give my opinions of you.
	Okay.
	Well, see, you see, there's like polarization on every aspect of politics.
	But I don't know really.
	Well, you mentioned patriarchy, so you must, I assume you must believe in it.
	When it comes to reproductive rights and women Taking care of their body and their business, I think women should have the say over that and have that protected over the patriarchy stance, which is mainly in politics.
	The men are having, you know.
	Okay, so we can get into abortion here in just a sec, but do you believe in the patriarchy?
	Yeah, it's there.
	Okay.
	And here, well, just really quick on the abortion thing, then you probably want to say something on this.
	It's not clear, like, you do realize, like, there's actually, I could be, I think the stats are, there are more women who are pro-life than there are men who are pro-life.
	Like, 50% of the pro-life movement is women, so it's not clear to me if that's evidence of the patriarchy.
	If 50% of women are against abortion, I'm not sure if that's evidence of a patriarchy.
	Okay, I did not know that.
	Well, there's a lot of, I mean, I think, I don't know who, maybe, who here is pro-choice, who's pro-life?
	Pro-choice, who's pro-choice?
	Pro-life.
	He's pro-life.
	Pro-life, pro-life.
	Let's say pro-choice, but I would want more women choose pro-life.
	By their choice, you know?
	Oh.
	Being educated, being supported, and like make their choice to be pro-life.
	Well, okay, so let's go back to okay, so what is the patriarchy?
	Like in the workforce, the value of men in positions or having being higher regarded than women, in my evidence do you have for that?
	can you expand on that point a little bit um i don't know I'm done with this question.
	You can't be done.
	Didn't you get a whole pour?
	Well, I mean, I'm just asking very basic questions.
	Like, so how is the patriarchy manifesting itself?
	What is it?
	You mentioned workplace, so are you talking about, I mean, I'm not against men.
	Like, men.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	I don't know.
	Into the mic, please.
	I'm not against men.
	It's just like matriarchy, patriarchy.
	Our society is currently like a patriarchy.
	What is that?
	What is a patriarchy?
	Male leadership.
	We have male presidents.
	Male leadership.
	So if we elected a female president, would we be in a matriarchy?
	Technically, yeah.
	Okay, that's an interesting sense of what the typically I my sense of what's like, that's just like okay, so okay, I have a couple questions on this.
	So I reject that that there's a patriarchy.
	I don't really believe that we're living in the patriarchy.
	If anything, I think we live in a gynocentric Society where I actually think women are elevated above men in a lot of ways.
	Perhaps there's the one percentage of men that have the penultimate or the ultimate positions of authority and power and the most well-paying jobs.
	But that also you have to look at the other factors too.
	While men occupy the top positions of politics, power, wealth, They also occupy the vast majority of the lowest positions in society.
	You look at homeless people, for example, that's 80% men.
	Now, and then that stat actually shifts.
	Those, the people who are homeless, who are living rough, so actually on the street, because you can be homeless, but have shelter, have a car, the men that you see on the street, 90% of the time, it's going to be a man who's living rough.
	I don't know if that's the exact terminology, but living rough, I guess you could say.
	Men are more likely to delete themselves.
	Men are more likely to die early.
	Men die on average five years earlier than women.
	Men, while they have the best jobs, arguably, or the best paying jobs, they also have the most dangerous and dirty and difficult jobs.
	When the power goes out and it's below freezing at 3 a.m. and you need a lineman to go fix the electricity or something, that's going to be a man going out at 3 a.m. in the blistering cold, in a snowstorm, to go dangerously fix something.
	So men occupy the most dangerous, difficult, and dirty jobs.
	Look at garbage men.
	Yeah.
	Who are well paid, but you don't see women chomping at the bit to go be a garbage person.
	I'm not saying I'm a technique.
	Like, I'm not saying I'm really against the patriarchy.
	Yeah, you're against it.
	No, I'm not.
	I think there's a lot of value to men, and especially in hard positions.
	But men are not the patriarchy.
	No, you're okay.
	But you said the patriarchy is men who occupy the top positions of power.
	That's less than 1% of men.
	Okay.
	So are you saying that generally speaking, men are you talking like there's male privilege?
	There was.
	There was.
	Not anymore?
	Yeah, no.
	There's no more male privilege?
	What was the male privilege?
	Yeah.
	Is there currently male, like, do you believe in male privilege?
	When it comes to in certain ways, yeah.
	So what are some examples of male privilege?
	A lot of women not getting justice for a lot of abuses.
	That's not an example of male privilege.
	That could be an example of alleged female disadvantage, but I'm asking for evidence, examples of male privilege.
	So because plenty of men don't get justice either.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	In various ways.
	If they're a victim of a crime, plenty of men don't get justice either.
	Yeah.
	I'm not sure if I'm educated enough to continue this discussion.
	Okay, that's fine.
	Well, I have just a few more questions then.
	We'll move off of male privilege.
	So would you say that under patriarchy, because you've asserted that we live under a patriarchy, are women oppressed?
	Like do you view that, do you think women are oppressed?
	Oppressed.
	Enter the mic, please.
	Again, I'm not as educated as I'd like to be on this topic.
	Just because I'm pushing back, don't walk back your position.
	But under patriarchy, are women oppressed?
	Because you've asserted that there's a patriarchy.
	I deny there's a patriarchy, but for the sake of argument, I'll agree that there's a patriarchy.
	So under the patriarchy, under this assumed patriarchy, are women oppressed?
	I think there's been a lot of progress.
	And so that's what I mean when I say like I'm not like a radical feminist.
	I'm not like polarized.
	Well, I think patriarchy is a rather radical proposition.
	Is it?
	I think so.
	Okay, I didn't view it that way.
	Well, that's why I was asking what your definition of patriarchy was.
	A male leadership.
	Like, president is which you object to, it sounds like.
	No, I'm not objecting to it.
	But why then why is it a societal term?
	It's a patriarchy.
	But it sounds like you object to it.
	No.
	It'd be nice to see a female patriarchy.
	No, but you do object.
	But it sounded like from what you've said that you have an issue with it because you feel as if women have not been able to occupy those roles in society.
	Devon Jackson donated $100.
	Men have the privilege of fighting, working and dying to create a society safe enough for women like you to sit there and poorly explain why they are oppressing you.
	We'll put Dave on Jackson.
	So, okay, my question is, under patriarchy, are women oppressed?
	No, we've seen a lot of progress.
	So women are no longer oppressed.
	So what are you saying?
	You're well educated enough to be saying that.
	Well, what are your professors brainwashing you with?
	Brainwashing me with in journalism.
	The Me Too movement has been a recent thing that is important and because workplace harassment is a thing and women should be protected against that.
	So that would be maybe one form of oppression.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	Poetic stupidity has been in university too long and I weep for her future partners.
	The only success in her future will be hid by divorced attorneys.
	If you want a real man become a real woman.
	To me.
	Wow.
	It's very mean.
	Alrighty.
	You can clap back if you want.
	Do you?
	Based.
	I'm trying to find common ground and I'm not like a radical or like polarizing really.
	No, but we're just you used.
	Oh, did you have something?
	Yeah, just I want to add a little bit to this and show probably for you example how kind of patriarchy.
	Mr. Infinity donated $100.
	I'm just a hardworking average man who makes around $50k a year.
	Can matchmaker find me a traditional woman?
	Yes, it's a question for me, huh?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's interesting how you put the question here.
	I'm hardworking average man who makes around $50,000 a year.
	I mean, why you feel yourself that you are not providing enough?
	Or you are a man who wants to have a family.
	When a woman enters in a relationship, she's not looking at the guy.
	I mean, for me as a matchmaker, I never look at the people like who they are.
	I'm looking at them, what the potential is.
	When a woman enters in a relationship, I mean, you're not going to be an ideal person for everyone right away.
	A woman looks in the potential of who you would be as a partner for a family and how she can help you to achieve even higher things together.
	But again, together.
	So for the right woman, it's always a woman.
	I believe that woman always builds men.
	With a right way she handles herself with a man, she can either build her man or crush her men.
	So building man is believing in the gratitude, being thankful for what he is able to bring to the family.
	Doesn't matter how little it is, it doesn't matter.
	But believing more and more and more helps man grow.
	So, and the family grows.
	So, I guess the short answer to this question is yes.
	You wanted to go on the patriarchy guys?
	Yeah, yeah, I wanted to help with an example and show where men or where women can be oppressed in society.
	I feel here that it's really pro-women society now, or at least that women are very protected here.
	And for example, I feel really pity when I see, for example, in Slavic countries, men, when man divorce or leave family, leaves family, for example, with kids, he just says bye-bye.
	It's a good thing if he leaves something, but it's up to him in most cases.
	And he said bye-bye to his wife, ex-wife, and kids, for example, and go start a new life with new women, with new datings, have no, has no responsibility.
	And you're right, probably you couldn't find the example in this country, right?
	Because there are a lot of equalities and rights.
	But from where we are, like our backgrounds, for example.
	And what is most important and sad to see that it's acceptable in society.
	So, for example, society will not say, oh, I will not date this guy because he left his family and see their children like barely, maybe sometimes, maybe don't see it at all.
	So it's not punished by society.
	So here it's an example how women are oppressed.
	But women should grow children, mostly on their own, find a new man who will look at them.
	Oh my god, she has kids, maybe now, maybe it's too complicated.
	I will go find someone.
	You know, a lot of women, you remember, right?
	More women than men.
	So here is an example.
	Yeah.
	To the topic.
	There, I would say that society is more patriarchy, right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Did you have any further thoughts on the patriarchy discussion?
	No, like I said, I'm not like polarized or radical, so thank you for chiming in because I appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Okay, last couple questions for you.
	Are you here in this interrogation?
	Are you oppressed?
	Am I oppressed?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Sort of the last thing on this.
	You said that there's a wage gap.
	Yes, I was listening to a political science lecture on the way here from a professor with a doctoral in political science, and she was stating that yes, there is still a wealth gap specifically for women of color.
	Okay.
	Actually, I think we have some information on that.
	Nick, can you pull up the infographics tab?
	I just want to make sure I pull up the right one.
	Hold on.
	I think it's in the wage tab.
	You mentioned Dropbox podcast infographics.
	There's also, hold on, I'm just pulling these up on my end so I can see them.
	There's some interesting stats actually comparing men and women.
	Hold up, wait, wait, wait.
	I think it definitely depends on the studies you look at, but there was also more evidence within my journalism class and some studies we looked at there.
	Your journalism class?
	Yes.
	Who's probably taught by a feminist liberal woman?
	It's by a man.
	Feminist, liberal man.
	Same thing.
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, so, okay, we have.
	Wait, hold on, I'm just looking.
	Nick, can you pull up?
	Are you in the wage tab?
	Okay, can you pull up the GPG 2022 controlled, uncontrolled?
	It's the yellow and blue one.
	And then the Asian women comparing to Asian women, Asian women two.
	Stochastic Decay denied $99.
	Yo, what's up, bro?
	Sorry, I'm late.
	Long day writing a poem.
	Roses are red.
	Black widow's brain is pint-sized.
	She can't make an argument without saying polarized.
	This has become a gangster.
	I want to say it's an argument, it's a discussion.
	And that's why.
	Asian women, Asian women, too, GDP per capita, median income, and then women outearn, and then working hours also.
	Those are all at the bottom.
	Wait, there's two Asian women ones.
	I grab a lot of them.
	Just grab both while you're at it.
	Because I want to actually, we've never really looked at any of the data.
	I just want to look at it.
	Did you got it, Nick?
	Can we start looking?
	Yes, it looks like we're good.
	Okay.
	Just hide us, Nick, for a sec.
	So this was released by, I believe, PayScale.
	You can actually go to the PayScale website.
	I think it's PayScale.
	Uncontrolled gender pay gap.
	This opportunity pay gap measures median salary for all men and all women.
	So this isn't accounting for hours worked, type of job, seniority, nothing.
	Educational achievement.
	If you control for every single variable, it comes down to 99 cents, a one cent gap.
	So that measures the median salary for men and women with the same job and qualifications.
	Nick, you can show us again.
	Are you able to pull up the other?
	Oh, did you have a question?
	Nick?
	Did you have a question?
	That's from PayScale, by the way.
	I'm pretty sure PayScale.
	Which is not like, it's not like some right-leaning organization.
	Hold on.
	Let me pull this up.
	Well, that's good.
	would hope that's the case from what we looked at in my journalism class it was like the film industry and contracts signed nick show us to where men to the what industry Like film industry, contracts signed.
	Film industry?
	Like movie payments?
	Like how men's actors, actresses.
	Oh, they make more than women?
	Yes, like contracts signed and stuff like that.
	Sure.
	Do you think it's unfair, for example, that female soccer players or women who are in the WNBA, do you think it's unfair that they make less than men who play soccer or men who are in the NBA?
	No, because I think the audience size is different.
	Couldn't that be the same also in the entertainment industry?
	Like certain actors might work more or so I do know what you're referencing, right?
	Because Monique was speaking about it.
	is kind of similar along the lines of what you're talking about.
	Anybody know who motivates you?
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	Wage gap.
	I wish I could sell pictures of my thumbper online and make five figures a month.
	Enjoy life on easy mode.
	You do OnlyFans.
	How much do you make?
	No comment.
	Range?
	No comment.
	But I definitely do agree that women make more money on OnlyFans than men.
	And is that evidence of sexism?
	Is that evidence of sexism?
	Shit.
	Well, I'm not really asking you that.
	Back to you.
	I don't know if they're asking you or me.
	I think it's just an interesting thing.
	Female models greatly outearn their male counterparts.
	Is that because of sexism?
	Is there a matriarchy because female models out earn male models?
	No.
	Are male models like that?
	Well, I mean, men do take in porn more than women.
	Actually, honestly, I don't know that because a lot of women watch porn.
	A lot of men watch porn, but I know for a fact, as a creator myself, like women do make more money.
	Yes, they do.
	But that's in the sex working industry.
	Although it does sound like you said that, well, for male soccer players, female soccer players, you don't object to them making different amounts.
	Is that correct?
	No, it's appealing to the audience and the audience.
	Okay, that's fair.
	So that's the industry that she's in.
	It's like the male audience is the one.
	Right.
	Nick, let's just, just since we have them pulled up, just let's blast through.
	You mentioned women of color.
	Actually, Asian women are out-earning white men.
	Holy crap.
	That's the median weekly earnings of full-time workers, white men versus Asian.
	Next one, Nick?
	I think she's talking.
	Are you talking about specifically like black women?
	Or just women of color?
	I thought Asian women were also women of color.
	No, no, no, I'm just asking to clarify, like, when you say women of color.
	That was from the point of view.
	Also this, next.
	Was there another Asian women one?
	Yeah.
	Scroll.
	Median weekly earnings for Asian women versus white men.
	This is the, okay.
	All right, next.
	What's the next one we got?
	Real GDP per capita and median male income.
	So this is comparing the is this like the real GDP per capita and median male income?
	So wait, real GDP per capita, oh median male income, I see.
	And then comparing it to men versus women.
	So there's a men are kind of disadvantaged there.
	There hasn't been a similar growth.
	Next.
	Scroll up, Nick.
	Weighted average of working hours per week, single men and women without kids.
	So men work more hours than women.
	Next.
	And then this is from Pew Research Center.
	Can you put us on the other side, Nick?
	Young women earn at least as much as young men in 22 U.S. make us smaller.
	Young women earn at least as much as young men in 22 U.S. metros.
	So.
	I can't make it smaller.
	Oh, then I don't know.
	Is the other one smaller?
	The one on the left side is smaller.
	Oh, we don't have one of those on the right side?
	Oh, do we just have the corner?
	Show me the corner.
	I guess that's fine.
	Medium annual earnings of U.S. women as a percent of men's median among full-time year-round workers younger than 30.
	Can you hide us for a sec?
	I want to read that thing on the bottom.
	Estimates refer to full-time year-round workers aged 16 to 29 who reported positive wage and salary income in the prior 12 months.
	Actually, there was a woman who recently won the, Nick, if you can Google the Nobel Peace Prize, or sorry, not the Nobel Peace Prize, it was a Nobel Economics Prize.
	A woman debunked the wage gap and said it comes down to women's choice to have a family.
	Was there another one, Nick, or I think whatever, we don't need to pull it up.
	But so my question to you is you mentioned that you want a guy to be a provider, correct?
	Do you think, let's assume that I'm wrong on the wage gap thing, that there's genuinely a wage gap, that it's 80 cents to the dollar for men.
	Let's just assume it's true, right?
	Could we explain away the gap because there are women like you who want traditional treatment from men and that there's a market pressure, there's a dating pressure that exists on men that does not exist on women for men to be providers and to make money because women have this, put a pressure on men to financially succeed,
	whereas there is no dating pressure, mating pressure on women to make $99.
	Boxana, do you have more women like Janna?
	Yes, many more.
	So to get back to my question, though, could the wage gap, assuming it's real, be explained away by the fact that women put a burden, a pressure on men to be providers, and that burden does not exist on women ergo because of the mating pressure on men to provide and to make money and to pay for first dates and to get you gifts and do all these things.
	That explains why there's a wage gap.
	Because men are more motivated to make more money because if they don't, they're not going to get a second date with you.
	They're not going to get a first date with you.
	When it comes to that, I would still say women should be making equal pay if they're in the workforce.
	But okay.
	How can you, I don't think that the two positions can coexist.
	You cannot say, I want men to be a provider, but also I want to make the exact, because if every single woman makes the exact same amount as a guy, how can you expect a guy to be a provider?
	Well, the woman can also, you know, save up and do other things with the money to invest in the relationship.
	There's many utilization.
	It seems a little bit sexist, like against the guy.
	If the woman gets to save all the money if they're making the same and he's paying for everything for her and she's saving it.
	Or would she be paying for things for him as well?
	Because then that would make it equal for him as well.
	So then he wouldn't have to pay for everything.
	So then he wouldn't be providing for you in the way that you're saying because you would be paying for things for him.
	Yes, I would say it's like a mutually beneficial, but sole provider, like he's the main provider for the family and for him.
	I just, I don't think the demand for, and we have equal pay, but this demand of, like, because there's been news articles.
	Nick, can you actually Google women not finding economically attractive partners?
	So If we elevate the amount of money that women are making, if women are, and I think it's great if women are participating in the workforce, however, women need to start considering 50-50 if y'all want to be being paid equally.
	You can't have, I want perfect equality in society, but I want inequality in my romantic life.
	That's what I'm saying.
	People just have their personal preferences, and that's you cannot demand that it just economically, I don't think it makes it's it's not feasible.
	If every woman has your standard of I want a guy to be a provider, and I would argue a lot of women do, perhaps the majority of women want a male to be a provider, coincidingly, there cannot also be, which by the way, we have, which is, I think, why there's one of the reasons for the break, the, what's it called?
	The breaking up of male-female relationships.
	I don't think both of these things can really coincide.
	You cannot demand tradition in your romantic life of a man being a provider, but then also across the board, expect equality financially and economically.
	Somebody's going to lose in that scenario.
	Here, Nick, pull up the article.
	Do you have it?
	Is it this one?
	Well, find the...
	Scroll down, Nick.
	Scroll down so I can see some of the article choices.
	There's a whole bunch here.
	We'll do the independent.
	Lack of economically attractive men.
	Click it.
	Go ahead.
	Lack of economically attractive men to blame for decline in marriage rates, study suggests.
	So if a bunch of women have this attitude of, I need a man who makes as much as me or more, but y'all are high earners now, and you're starting to earn more than men, there's going to have to be a subset of women that's going to have to be cool with 50-50, gonna be cool with being, both of you are making income, even being the sole breadwinner potentially for a woman, or out earning the men.
	That's perfectly fine.
	Sure.
	But I guess what I'm trying to say is you cannot really have economically, I don't think it's economically feasible, and perhaps the chat can weigh in on this.
	You cannot have this demand that all women across the board make just as much as men do and also expect men to be providers.
	I don't think the two mesh.
	I could be, hey, maybe I'm wrong.
	Maybe I have a misunderstanding of economics.
	Is it radical to be pro-equality?
	No.
	It's just the contradiction of what you're saying.
	It's the contradiction of expecting a man to buy you things and to give you things.
	Pay for first aids, pay for subsequent aids.
	Okay, so.
	That's just my personal preference.
	But it's, again, how do you reconcile your personal preference of being a feminist, believing in gender equality, wanting to do away with gender roles, but wanting men to pay for first aids?
	Because I care about the equality of the women in society while also upholding traditional values.
	But the two-year-olds are then, can I ask you something real quick?
	I respect you as someone who's coming here.
	I just definitely want to say that.
	I'm going to sports donated $100.
	Pork's sake, equal pay does not equals equal earnings.
	That's true.
	Men will work harder jobs, work longer hours, work in places women will not go.
	Stop complaining and enjoy the life men provide, the women they love.
	Also, really quick on the wage gap thing, if there actually was a wage gap, what's the primary goal or motivation of a company or a corporation or a business?
	Maximize profit.
	Make money, right?
	If there actually was a wage gap, wouldn't these corporations strictly just hire women and save 20, 30% on their payroll?
	It's not possible.
	And you say these companies would be judged for not equality for everyone.
	You know, just, oh, you hired only women.
	Now it's a court time.
	Well, no, but the reality is if you're a business and you can get away with paying your workforce 20%, 30% less, then that would be a very smart business decision to just hire.
	Exactly, but then publicity will arise and they will be sued for not allowing men, for example, get this job for all this stuff, you know.
	For ethical point, for ethical.
	It's possible that men's rights advocates might litigate that.
	However, I would argue it's pretty unlikely.
	And also, when it comes to equality, most of these companies, like if they had a boardroom that was 80% women or even 100% women, they would view that as equality, even though it's really not.
	It's only inequality if men make up the majority.
	But when women, if women are overrepresented in the boardroom or in certain professions, there's no qualms with that.
	Feminists aren't out in the streets like, we need more male nurses.
	Like, there's not, women are not fighting to get more men into female-dominated jobs.
	They only want to infiltrate male-dominated jobs.
	Do you believe that if businesses in capitalism society could maximize that profit, their profit, wouldn't do it.
	If it would be possible without the consequences, people are smart.
	They've already done that.
	Please move on to another topic.
	Black widows still fin AF, though.
	Finn?
	Fine.
	That's so funny.
	But also, though, when I was referring to the wage gap, I was referring to a specific study that I had listened to in a lecture from a college about, like, in reference to contracts being signed in the film industry.
	I just like to say that.
	Okay, that's super specific.
	Exactly.
	And then you interrogated me, and I don't, I'm not well educated and versed enough in all the other wage gaps.
	So thank you for pulling up the statistics.
	Okay.
	Did you want to continue on with your point?
	So, like I was saying, as an individual, I completely respect you.
	I do have a problem with some things that you're saying.
	I feel like you're very, you get challenged and you take a step back.
	You're not very confident in yourself.
	So I think my question for you is, are you looking for a guy to pay everything for you?
	Or are you looking to feel lower than that man?
	Because I'm hearing a lot about feminism, but I'm also hearing a lot about you wanting a man who is paying for everything.
	He is the provider.
	I feel like that's against feminism.
	That's just traditional.
	And from what I've heard from a lot of aspects, is that traditional is not feminism.
	Like you've said, that there's been a lot of growth since when we couldn't vote, whatever, one thing or another.
	So why do you want to go back to the ways of man does everything for me if you're fighting for equality between men and women?
	And maybe it's something deeper.
	Maybe it's a trauma thing that you have.
	Like, I have no idea.
	It just is a very confusing thing for me because what do you want?
	I think women should have rights and the society that we're in, they have the rights and they're just making sure they maintain the rights.
	Which rights?
	I don't know.
	Like, you know, the feminism.
	I don't.
	Because I don't.
	I don't.
	I cannot think of any right.
	Hold on.
	What underscore BW underscore just underscore unwittingly donated $100.
	Admitted is that she wants the absolute domination of men.
	Men as slaves that work to pay for everything.
	And then to also be paid the same which women can use for other things.
	Pure slavery era evil.
	I think, dude, that's kind of fucking super base.
	Like, that's super fucking base.
	Like, I think a lot of men are just like looking at the prospects romantically and of marriage.
	Like, you're basically just a pay pig.
	You're a wage slave.
	And it's men are catching on and it's milk ain't worth the squeeze.
	You got interrupted, though.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, no, actually, I think I was going to say.
	So again, so what right do men have that women do not?
	The only thing here, I'll help you out.
	The only thing I can think of, the only right provided by law, for example, that men have that women don't is that, and this isn't even in some cities, in some areas, women do have this right.
	Free the titty.
	Like some women, you can't be topless in public.
	And you know what?
	I am a feminist on that front.
	I'm in favor.
	If y'all want to take your tops off and titties out, I will fight for you.
	I am the number one feminist at this table.
	I'm a feminist.
	Free the titties.
	Free the titties.
	I am a feminist.
	Okay.
	That is the one right.
	No, it's true.
	Women are so oppressed.
	They can't.
	Free the titty.
	It's fucked up.
	Okay, here.
	Hold on.
	Let me pull up a chat.
	We have Tim.
	I just want one woman who I will make a lot of babies with, who will not leave me, not leave with half of what I own, and actually stick around till death will do us part.
	Is it possible in this world of dating?
	I don't think it is, but yeah, what can you do?
	What can you do?
	All right.
	Here we have Loma Lam the Sky.
	Lamb the Sky.
	Mercy Buku for the Canadian 50.
	Brian, the poor girl took an intro of the poli psych class and learned some buzzwords.
	You're not getting more out of her.
	Confirm or deny took an intro of the poli psych class.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I'm just like, I'm not radical.
	Like, I'm just trying to find common ground.
	Word.
	Okay, that's fair.
	That's fair.
	It's a bit unfair, too, because I feel like I would have hoped that there were some other feminists at the table.
	So I hope you don't feel like you're getting dog piled or anything or ganged up on.
	But yeah, good talk.
	Good talk.
	I have a question.
	Sure.
	For you, Brian.
	For me?
	So opinion of the man, right?
	So everybody is talking about how it was put on a man, the expectations of making money and providing and so on, right?
	So would it be, is it possible that men right now, they feel like they are trying and trying and trying and they're not getting enough appreciation or recognition from the woman for the things that they are doing?
	I think in a guy, typically, by nature, mother nature just engraved in men to be providers, right?
	To get that woman, to conquer her, to court her, to it's engraved in you.
	So if you are with a woman who values what you are doing, what you are providing, what you are bringing, wouldn't you want to even do more?
	So it's like, my point is, I think guys just right now feeling underappreciated.
	Like it is expectations are put on them.
	They have to do it.
	But if men would have enough appreciation from the woman, from their woman, they would try to do more.
	It would be coming from their heart because they know they're coming home where they're appreciated, where they're recognized, where they just get all the glory.
	He is the king, right?
	Yeah.
	So it is not the question that men feel that there is so much put on them.
	They have to provide, they have to do, like jump out of their pants to give everything to the woman.
	It is the question is to have the woman by his side who values all this.
	Absolutely.
	I think that's a fantastic point you made.
	I think one of the most important things for men is respect.
	And I think a lot of men in their relationships, quite frankly, do not feel respected by their partners.
	They don't feel respected by women generally.
	And frankly, I don't think men feel respected in society.
	So absolutely.
	And I think there's also a component of also entitlement when it comes to like as a woman, you can have certain standards and preferences and expectations.
	But if you make it, if you, a lot of men are perfectly happy paying for first aids, they will go to war with the world to provide for the right woman.
	But if the woman feels like entitled to it and they don't put, they're not respectful with it and they're not thankful or grateful for it.
	A lot of women just, again, feel entitled to it.
	And respect is so important to men that men lose motivation to want to be providers, I think, because it's not respected.
	Exactly.
	And one of the ways it's not respected is you'll have men who will do all the right things on the date, who will pay for the first date, be a gentleman, be respectful, get her flowers, et cetera, et cetera, do all these things.
	And in a lot of ways, not all women, but there are women who will actually look down on that.
	And this comes back to something I think we talked about earlier, this sort of double treatment.
	Because, for example, you'll have a woman who a lot of times in today's modern dating world, romance is no longer required.
	Courtship is no longer required.
	So you'll have women, you know, we live in a college down here.
	There's big hookup culture.
	A girl will like fuck a guy within an hour of meeting.
	And then the guy who does all the right things, who's a gentleman, who's nice, who takes her out on dates, who buys her flowers, does all the right things, he ends up losing.
	And he sees the treatment that the guys who never had to put in anything, you'll see these really attractive guys who are kind of bad boys or jerks or assholes or whatever.
	They'll never pay for a first date.
	And they're like constantly with women.
	They'll see the treatment that they get and they'll be wondering, well, I'm doing everything that I've been told what to do, but I don't have, I'm not being rewarded for it.
	So it's like, fuck it.
	Is he really losing or he's gaining?
	Like, thanks God that I'm not with this woman and he would be moving on to find the girl who does have the right standards and who actually has the knowledge what it is to have a build the right relationship.
	So it is hard to say.
	I mean you can look at like from different angles.
	So it is not really losing, it's winning.
	It's the opposite from my perspective too.
	It's just having your own standard, whatever it is, like not pain, pain, or like whatever it is, and just keep trying to find your person.
	No one says that every girl will accept your flowers and everything.
	Some girls don't want.
	And it's fine with them.
	They want their relationships to be different.
	They can.
	But if you're a guy and if you want to have this admission, Group One Motorsports donated $100.
	Oksana most US men I know will die for the relationship and go through hell for thea kids, while US women will trash a relationship because they are bored and will use the kids against the father.
	That's really sad.
	That is.
	It is.
	It is just absolutely unfortunate.
	I have a 10-year-old daughter, and just the things that I hear, how other couples, if things don't work out for them, I'm not talking about my clients, I'm talking about parents of where my child goes to school to.
	And it is really, really scary how people end up damaging themselves and their kids for just, there is no even reason.
	It's just some things in the United States is just a fantastic country.
	There's so many amazing things, so many opportunities that we have here.
	But I think because of the opportunities, we are getting crooked as well because of too many things that are allowed.
	Too many things.
	Sure, fair point.
	Fair point.
	By the way, did I read the one from Tim?
	I just want one woman who I will make a lot of babies with.
	Did I read that one?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I just want to make sure that.
	But we haven't answered, probably.
	Oh, we haven't answered.
	Wait, we didn't?
	Is it still possible in this world of dating?
	I mean, I don't know if that's true.
	Can you read it?
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	Anything is possible.
	Anything.
	Whatever you want is possible.
	It just requires some coaching of both people.
	Yes.
	Anything is possible.
	Depending how much effort you're willing to put into that to make it happen.
	But anything is possible.
	True, true.
	Yeah.
	Also, last thing on the wage gap.
	I don't think men aren't going out there trying to occupy the top positions of power and income to oppress women.
	Most men are out there trying to make a ton of money so that they can provide for their girlfriend, their wife, and their kids.
	It's not like this.
	Actually, you know what?
	There's a tape video.
	There's a tape video.
	Let's pull up the tape video.
	Nick, go find the tape video.
	Pull up the tape video, Nick.
	Get that tape video, Nick.
	Get the tape video.
	Whenever you're ready, Nick, just grab that tape video.
	Go to videos.
	Oh, you got it?
	You got it?
	It's in the tape folder.
	Dropbox podcast videos tape.
	Let's see, it is called, let me know when you're there, Nick.
	Yeah, VDS-T.
	It's garbage man oppression.
	I think the fourth one over.
	You can pull that up for us, pause it.
	Get it.
	Video tab.
	Go ahead.
	This is a big point I want to make.
	Women confuse this very often.
	They talk about the fact that men have all the power, men make all the money, men are in charge, and we oppress women.
	Let me make something very clear to you.
	Firstly, you're confusing 1% of men with all men.
	The majority of men have no money, no power, no sex from their wives, no fucking chance in court.
	They can't even keep their house.
	They won't get to see their kids.
	And they don't.
	So most men, their life sucks.
	That's the first thing.
	The second thing, when a man gets up at four in the morning to go carry garbage to earn a good wage, he ain't thinking, I'm gonna do this so I can oppress that bitch because she's broke.
	He's doing it thinking, so I can provide for my family so my woman can stay at home and raise my kids and have nice nails while I'm out here carrying trash.
	You go to a coal mine, those dudes are not down there thinking about oppressing women.
	They're down there thinking about providing for women.
	Now, I'm not saying that there's not bad apples, but in general, us men are prepared to take on more bullshit to protect you than you would possibly believe.
	And in the modern world, they've spun that.
	Feminism spun that.
	Men make all the money.
	You women need more money because men make the money and men are in charge and men have the good jobs.
	Men are out here giving up their fucking life for you chicks.
	They're giving up their life for you.
	And feminism prevents you respecting it.
	Super fucking based.
	Well put by Tate.
	Let's go around the table.
	I want to get everyone's reaction to that.
	Your reaction.
	Go ahead.
	One eternity later.
	Come on.
	Personally, I don't like Andrew Tate, but.
	You don't like Andrew Tate?
	No.
	Why not?
	From what I've seen on just social media, he's very misguided.
	He's very what?
	Misgonistic.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	One more time?
	Misgolanistic.
	One more time?
	Come on.
	Okay.
	We can move on to the next person.
	No, no, no.
	Well, hold on.
	It's.
	Go ahead.
	Do you mean misogynistic?
	Misogynistic.
	Okay.
	How so?
	Okay, well, we don't need to get into that.
	Let's just stick to the video.
	I mean, your thoughts on the video, besides your – do you agree with what he says?
	Disagree?
	I do agree.
	Yeah.
	I think a lot of men do work to provide for their family, for their girlfriends, for their wives.
	Okay.
	I agree with the video.
	I very much think there's a lot of value in the men that will support and provide for the family, especially to the men who go out and pick up trash at four in the morning and do those dirty jobs and those hard jobs.
	Mad respect for those men.
	I just also am aware that there's a lot of single mothers and women and families that have been left by men who also then are the sole provider.
	Their sole provider, yeah, for their family.
	So that's where the importance of wage.
	I agree with what he's saying, just because, you know, I grew up with a single father who got up every day at 4 or 5 in the morning and he did what he had to do to take care of his two daughters and I respect that insanely.
	And there's some people that don't have the help.
	So gotta do what he got to do.
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	I agree with what he's saying.
	I hear the same things from my clients as well.
	It's just the type of things that men have to go through to just get noticed, to just get attention.
	I agree as well.
	And I would like to highlight his perspective on the video.
	If man would have had respect and love when he's back from this throwing trash to his bed with a good wife who said, thank you so much.
	I was waiting for you till eternity, even though it was just five minutes, right?
	Or something like that, you know, and all this stuff, men would not have seen it as a tragedy or something, oppression, you know.
	He would feel that he's a hero and that he gives this energy back, this caring energy back, you know?
	That's the point.
	Your reaction to the video?
	Yeah, I agree with it.
	I also agree.
	Yeah, I agree with it.
	I think we all agree.
	Okay, all right.
	Across the board.
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	Oh, here, last thing on who pays.
	We'll go around the table on that.
	Who should pay on the first date?
	I think whoever initiates, like, who wants to take the person on the date first.
	Okay.
	So whoever asks should pay?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?
	I haven't, no.
	Huh.
	Interesting how that works.
	Okay.
	I agree with her.
	Whoever asks should pay?
	Yeah.
	Have you ever asked a guy out on a date?
	No.
	Okay.
	I agree with them, and I have asked a guy on a date.
	Yeah.
	Okay, more of all the times that you've been on the first date, what's the percentage breakdown of who asks?
	90% of the time, 90% of the time the guy?
	I would probably, no, no, not even 90.
	I'd probably say it's like a like a, you know, I would, I probably ask, like, I'd probably say like 50-50 because I don't really, I don't, I'm so, because of what I do, I'm so scared to go out on dates sometimes because of how people treat me and how people react.
	But so that's why sometimes I'm the one to ask because I'll know I'll feel safe and if I'm okay to ask that person, I'm okay to go out with them.
	So I see.
	Okay.
	If I ask, I obviously paint because, you know, it was my idea.
	So.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Well, in traditional world, usually a man pays.
	However, it has to come from his desire to do so.
	If the desire is not there, then apparently a woman is not doing something enough or whatever if he does not have that desire.
	And if he does not have the desire, then they shouldn't be, they probably should end that date sooner.
	Okay.
	I agree, I agree.
	I would appreciate if man would pay, if the man would ask me to pay, or if in some couples they ask to pay, I would pay.
	No problem.
	I would prefer that the guy pay, but I have paid before.
	Okay.
	I would definitely say whoever initiates it.
	Have you asked a guy out?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I don't know why I affected a Canadian accent there, but what about you?
	No, I would never expect.
	I would never expect a man to pay on a date, but I've never paid for a date.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	If a guy asked you out on a date, he asked you out.
	And the date comes, you know, you get like, you guys go out, get a meal.
	Nothing super fancy.
	Maybe it was like 10, 20 bucks each.
	And the check comes and he asks, or the waiter comes, and the waiter says, he tells the waiter, hey, I'd like to split.
	We're going to split.
	Will there be a second date?
	If it wasn't communicated before, probably not.
	No second date?
	No.
	Okay.
	I again agree with what she said.
	Yeah, I think communicating, like, hey, like, are you okay with it?
	Or just being like on the jump?
	Oh.
	Had it been communicated?
	Like, sure.
	There could be a second date and a decision made.
	I don't mind that.
	Let's assume that it had not been communicated.
	Just you get on, you know, I assume you guys bring your wallets with you on dates, you know, you bring your purse or whatever.
	So he's like, the waiter comes.
	Oh, how was the meal?
	Oh, great, great.
	I think we're good to go.
	Two checks, please.
	That's okay.
	Yeah, I think depending on the way the date goes, there may or may not be a second date.
	Okay.
	Wait, what?
	I'm sorry.
	Repeat the question.
	So, okay.
	Go on a date with a guy.
	He asked you out.
	When the waiter comes, he has to get two checks.
	I wouldn't mind.
	Two checks.
	Like two chains, but two checks.
	It depends on how they treat me if I wanted to go on a second date.
	I don't really care about splitting a check.
	Sure, let's say the date went well.
	It wasn't like mind-blowing, but like in any other circumstance, you thought the guy was cool, I guess?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I'll go on a second date.
	Okay, all right.
	Would there be a second date?
	I would want to know the reason.
	Why?
	Maybe it is something engrieved in his family.
	That's what he saw as his parents.
	You know, maybe it is that he doesn't like me.
	Maybe it is, maybe he's testing whether or not I am, you know, for the normal.
	I would want to know why.
	So the reason will help you to determine.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	What about you?
	That's what I would do too.
	But if he's interesting, his personality is interesting, I would definitely go on a second date.
	But before, we would have had conversation.
	Why?
	Because it's very interesting.
	Maybe he doesn't like me, but maybe he has different points of view.
	And then we had a place to discuss, and it's cool.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, I feel the same way.
	I probably would not want the second date.
	I definitely feel the same way.
	I'd probably get a little anxious and be like, oh, what did I do?
	Is he not feeling me?
	Am I not attractive enough?
	So I'd probably check in and just be like, you know, hey, we didn't, you know, you were just kind of very nonchalantly like, bring two checks.
	You know what I mean?
	I'd kind of just be like, so is there a reason behind it?
	Are we just, you know, are we just going to do the 50-50?
	Because that's completely fine with me too.
	I'm totally fine with that.
	But first meeting someone, I would definitely kind of be like, hey.
	What about you?
	Yeah, like how you were saying earlier, it's a man's nature to be a provider.
	So if he wanted to split the bill, I would probably be like, oh, he definitely doesn't like me because he doesn't want to provide for me.
	Like if a guy really, really likes me, he will pursue that.
	He will pursue me in that way because that is a man's nature.
	Especially if he asked you out.
	Yeah, 100%.
	And especially if it's a dating process.
	Yeah, it's not a relationship when you just are.
	Yeah, like, yeah, in a relationship, it's totally completely different.
	But if it's like he asked me out, he's seemingly trying to impress me, then I don't know.
	Like, I can pay for my own meal.
	Like, I don't want to pay for it.
	I don't think you should try to impress a girl on a date.
	Why not?
	If you really like.
	Well, I think a lot of women would just view that as like, if the guy's trying to impress you, like I think a lot of women like the guy who's actually kind of a bit kind of laid back and not trying to do all this extra shit.
	What do you like think that like extra is?
	Like what is like, like what do they have to do to be?
	Well, when she was specifically saying like impress, like that specific verbiage or whatever, verbiage.
	I don't know if that's the right word there.
	But I don't think men should be trying to impress women.
	But at least yes, here's my life.
	Accept it.
	That's not a good idea.
	Man's supposed to position himself who he is, right?
	This is who I am.
	This is my achievements.
	this is my plan, this is my, because otherwise you guys are expecting women to be mind readers, which is, I mean, looking for a psychic is impossible.
	Now, the biggest- Psychic women.
	Those are my favorite.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The big thing that women are making mistakes of is like this question that you asked everybody, right?
	Big thing that women making the mistake, they start coming up with the answers in their own head.
	And this is such a creative world.
	We women will come up with so many pictures, with so many ideas.
	I hear sometimes it's like my mind is blowing.
	The type of things that women find answers, like we come up with those answers.
	Instead, we should be asking men.
	We really should be digging in deeper, like where exactly it is coming from.
	Not to judge on the surface, but to really understand where this behavior is coming from.
	That's where it's like, it opens up the depth of development of their relationship because the person might express how they were raised, that this was engraving their family or whatever.
	So it opens up totally different levels of communication, depth of that communication.
	And women tend to be more emotional on like a scientific, that's, you know, this is how women run.
	They run more off their emotional basis.
	And so I completely agree with you.
	If women could just sometimes, you know, I know for myself, if I could just take a fucking breath sometimes and not feel like, oh my gosh, he's acting this way.
	You know, say with my boyfriend.
	What's up?
	Her face gets a little bit blocked sometimes.
	Oh, can you scoot your mic more to the corner?
	Are you?
	Can you turn it this way anymore?
	Nope, Just that's fine.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	For example, I know with my boyfriend, there's times where he'll say something little and I'll totally take it and I just run with it.
	And I'm like, he's feeling this way towards me, he's feeling this way.
	If I could just take a breath and be like, hey, what did you mean by that?
	I could avoid all this other drama going on inside of myself and my anger building up towards him.
	You know what I mean?
	There you have it.
	So, okay, I used to have a, I've perhaps walked back a little bit my stance on this when it comes to who should pay.
	My previous stance was across the board, you got to split that shit.
	I've developed a bit more nuance here.
	So here's the nuance.
	If you're trying to min-max your dating results with women, you should pay for the first date.
	Not out of any tradition or anything, like, it's just if you're trying to maximize your success with any given woman, your best bet is to pay for the first date.
	Some women are fine with splitting, but sometimes you don't always know who that's going to be.
	Even women who admit they're cool with splitting, maybe aren't cool with splitting.
	Women will do this thing where they'll like do the fake, like, oh, you want me to get it?
	You want to split?
	And then their wallet's not going to be a good thing.
	The guy naively takes them up on their offer to split the bill and then the woman holds her offer against him.
	The woman holds holds it against the man for taking her up on the offer, the words that came out of her mouth.
	And well, oh, he accepted my offer, even though it came out of my mouth.
	I'm not interested anymore.
	There's not going to be a first date.
	So min-max, you know, like World of Warcraft, if you're going to min-max, you know, obviously like for PVE, you're going to roll alliance.
	And then, like, if you're going to play like a warrior or rogue, you're going to go, you're going to want to be human because of like the plus five mace and sword spec, like for like, you know, hit chance and shit.
	Because at 60, you know, there's like when you're raiding, there's glancing blows.
	If there's 63, like level 63 raid bosses and shit, you know, like you definitely, you want to be playing human in World of Warcraft classic.
	Again, that plus five to weapon skill for swords and maces, you're going to fucking min-max.
	So in that same way, like, and then also like PvP, if you're on the horde, you're going to want to play orc because orc has that 25% stun resist, which is fucking huge.
	Now, don't get me wrong, Undead is also very good because of their will of the Forsaken.
	Like you get fear resistance, two-minute cooldown or something, I believe, on Will of the Forsaken.
	So that's great against priests and warlocks.
	And who else has fear?
	Warriors have a fear sometimes, you know.
	So PvP, you can't go wrong with Orc and Undead.
	Orc is just like the best, like Min-Max for that 25% stun resist.
	I think it's called hardiness, you know?
	So just saying.
	But so like min-maxing, right?
	In dating, in dating, in dating, if you're going to min-max, you should pay for the first date.
	However, however, I will say this.
	If the woman considers herself to be a feminist, to be liberal, to be progressive, I think you should split the bill in that situation.
	You want traditional treatment.
	You ought to be a traditional woman.
	You got to be you want traditional treatment?
	Be a traditional woman.
	And the thing is, a lot of women who even consider themselves liberal, progressive, feminist, they want to be modern women while demanding traditional treatment from men, which, again, that's not a fair shake in my view.
	So there's that.
	Also, regardless of her politics or if she's traditional, non-traditional, although I would argue that, you know, granted, I think like a liberal woman obviously can be non-promiscuous.
	But if she's promiscuous, regardless of her politics or any other bullshit, like if she's dating other men, you don't pay.
	If she's entertaining other dudes, certainly if she's hooking up with other dudes, first off, you shouldn't even just go on a date with her.
	But if she is dating other men, because we've had women come on the show, I've had personal experiences where I've gone on a date with a girl and she tells me that she's had three, four, five other dates this week.
	I'm like, okay, I'm not even pursuing you anymore.
	i'll talk to you for five more minutes and this date's over um it's just maybe i don't want to pursue date will be a mess Be the one.
	Why not?
	Why do you give up so?
	I'm not dealing with a girl who's dating like seven other dudes.
	No.
	If I'm dating, what is dating?
	Like to go on with the game.
	Like wearing on dates.
	So a woman, for example, we had, and this is an extreme.
	Okay, so I know most women don't move like this, but we did have a woman on who considered herself, she was traditional and conservative, political beliefs, whatever.
	But she said that her goal was to go on 50 first dates in 50 days.
	Again, I know that's a very outlier.
	I know most women are not like that, but The feeling of that at a lower level is still kind of the same.
	Where if a girl's going, say, on three or four dates a week with different men, I'm the fucking date number five of the week.
	I remember I was once on a date with a girl.
	She had just downloading a dating app.
	I met her on Hinge.
	And she tells me on the date, I at least appreciate her honesty.
	She had just downloaded it.
	I was her already her fourth date.
	She'd been on the app for a week.
	She had two dates planned for the weekend.
	I'm thinking, what if I like this girl and I want to go on a date with her this weekend again?
	Like it was the midweek or whatever.
	I was like, what if I want to see you Friday, Saturday?
	Oh, sorry, I got a date.
	No, maybe she will like you and she will.
	She'll cancel?
	Of course.
	How much is that?
	A lot of women.
	It's really your position as a man to conquer position yourself, right?
	To conquer.
	It's not to position yourself that you are the one that you ask.
	Yeah, but she, but a lot of women, like even if a woman's interested in you, a lot of people, the grass is greener on the other side.
	They want to entertain multiple options.
	A lot of women might say, this guy's great, but then they might also say, this guy's really funny.
	This guy's a provider.
	This guy's good in bed.
	This guy's really fucking hot.
	So they might use different men for different reasons.
	And the other thing is, is just like, I don't want to play that game.
	Like, be properly single.
	Like, don't be, bro.
	You, even if we just met, if you've hooked up with a guy in recent history, you hooked up with a guy last week.
	Goodbye.
	See, because some guys, and this is where I differ from some of the other people in the space.
	Some guys are like, oh, well, promiscuous women, like if she's sleeping with other men, you could just like, what's the term?
	It's recreational use only.
	They use this term.
	They'll just sleep with the girl.
	But like, I don't even want casual sex with a promiscuous woman.
	Because, first off, I'm not really interested in just like a one-time casual sex.
	If I want to sleep with the girl, I want continuity.
	I want to continue seeing her.
	So I have no interest.
	You need to know her values to understand if she...
	So I have no interest in just sleeping with a girl one time.
	That's a waste of time.
	What's that?
	You're judging.
	You're judging that, oh, maybe he will sleep with other, he will, she will sleep with others, and so on.
	And so instead of learning about her, instead of saying, hey, I like her.
	Of course I judge.
	Of course I judge.
	But why?
	Instead of be judgmental.
	Of course.
	No, no, no.
	Not judgmental, I think.
	Curious about people.
	You know, when you're judgmental without lack of information, I've lost all my curiosity for a woman as soon as I know she's going on dates with a bunch of other men while talking to me.
	The thing that maybe I'm an outlier here, I find it extremely attractive when a woman, even very early on, initially, first meeting her, I have her undivided romantic and sexual attention.
	Certainly if her sexual attention is divided, that's a non-starter.
	I don't want to go on a date with you.
	I don't want to kiss you.
	I don't want anything with a girl who has divided sexual attention.
	Exactly.
	Same thing with romantic attention.
	The sexual attention, I think, is far more.
	If her sexual attention is divided, that's no-go.
	Romantic sexual attention, it's not as severe, but I want a girl who's exclusively focused on me from the fucking get-go.
	Because, and perhaps you women have experienced this.
	Well, I don't know if it's the same for...
	How will you know this?
	Sorry for interrupting.
	Well, I would hope so.
	How will you know if you met people on Hinge?
	You can assume that.
	Dating apps are a disaster.
	I gave up on dating apps.
	I don't do dating apps.
	I've been off them for I think over a year, well over a year, something like that.
	No, of course.
	But so ju one thing.
	So my experience, so I've had experience with women who are super high interest.
	And I no longer play this game of like chasing women because I've been on both sides of that.
	I've had women who are really fucking high interest to the point where like if you've never had that, like it's it's intoxicating to some degree.
	But and I've also had women who like they're kind of on the fence about me and goodbye.
	Of course.
	I'm not going to court.
	I'm not going to court you.
	I'm not going to chase you.
	I like women who immediately are like no, it's not even like this.
	No.
	No, it's not even that.
	I'm taking that.
	No, it's not even that.
	But for no more than one month.
	No, but it's not, it's not even, no, it's, but it's not even just, it's not even that.
	It's like they're, they don't just want to sleep with me quickly, but they also like they're fucking ride or die.
	They're all for me romantically too.
	Like I really like this guy.
	That's what I want.
	I've dealt enough with low interest, medium interest women.
	I don't want it.
	If I can get a woman who's high interest, that's far more preferable.
	And once you've had it, it's very hard to go from having a woman who's having, or throughout the course of your life, having multiple women who have demonstrated very high interest in you and to go back to the girl who's dating multiple men, who's on the fence, who's, I don't deal with fence sitters.
	You're for me or goodbye.
	And that's it.
	Okay, I got very worked up there.
	But she needs to know that she has to be for you, right?
	She has to understand who you are, what your values are.
	So in order to increase the chances of quality dates.
	Nick, can you close that?
	Why don't you spend some time to speak with her on the video first?
	And when you go.
	So you would give her some sort of education of what your expectations are.
	Yes.
	Because we are not mind readers.
	Okay.
	We cannot read what's on your mind or a man's mind.
	Impossible.
	Yeah.
	So you gotta tell us so we would be able to give it to you.
	Right?
	No, well, actually, I mean, when I used to do the dating app thing, like when I was on Hinge or whatever, before I met a girl, every single girl I ever went on a date with from any of the dating apps, I want to do a phone call.
	And I think that's a good strategy for both men and women.
	One, because, you know, everyone can be really fucking clever when they have five minutes to come up with something, something to say.
	So one, it's just like it gives both parties an out.
	So if the vibe, I don't like to use that term, the vibe, whatever, the fucking bullshit ass term.
	If the vibe isn't there, it gives both, like, because I don't want to go on a date with a girl that's not really feeling me.
	And if she's not really feeling me after a phone call, then do me a favor, save me time from having to go on a date with you.
	Just say, oh, Brian, I'm not interested.
	I have no issue with that.
	And likewise, for me, there's been women who I've talked to on the phone.
	I'm like, ooh, this girl, like on text, she seems cool, but like, I can tell there's something weird with her.
	And maybe a girl might feel that way about me.
	And she can opt out.
	I can opt out.
	I think it's a really good move.
	It'll save you time.
	Because I'm a very busy person.
	So if I can save myself the trouble of having to actually go on a date by screening out a girl on a phone call.
	Video call is better, not just.
	I prefer phone calls, to be honest.
	I don't know.
	I don't like video calls, but.
	He likes surprises.
	No, I mean.
	He's like, no, that's exactly what I'm saying.
	I don't want.
	No surprises.
	I'm not too.
	I mean, if you get them on the call and it's a woman who picks up, and I mean, you can, you can typically.
	How do you know it's a woman on the phone?
	I mean, the voice, you can tell by the voice.
	Yeah, but why not video call?
	You can see the way she looks right now, the way she sounds right now.
	You can see exactly if it is something that you are interested, she can do the same.
	That's for me, I mean, I don't, if somebody wants to do a video call, that's probably for most people, that's preferable.
	I just, me personally, I prefer voice calls.
	When I was doing the whole dating app thing, I'd always just do a, hey, let's call for 10, 20 minutes, whatever, get acquainted first.
	But that was just me, usually because I'd be like doing something, like I'd be on, I'd be walking, and I don't want to be like, oh, am I in the fucking frame?
	I just want to talk, you know, and I've not had any having, had I done a video call, I don't think I've had any instances in my own experience that it would have been better to have done a video call than the call.
	Because whatever you did, apparently, it's not working, so it's turned to the same thing.
	Well, it's not, no, but it's not clear to me if having done the video call would have resulted in of the women that I've met up with from dating apps where I did a voice call, it's not clear to me if having done a video call would have had any other person, like when she answers your questions, you can see her reaction.
	Like you're observing everyone here, right?
	Yeah.
	How they wear, they're rolling their eyes and moving their hands or whatever.
	Same thing.
	Yeah, no, that's a fair point.
	That's a fair point.
	Me personally, I just, even for non-romantic conversations, like if I'm doing a business call, I actually prefer just voice calls.
	I don't like video calls, Mel.
	No, that's just my own personal thing.
	But you're not wrong.
	I think you're 100% right.
	I think if you're inclined to do a video call, do a video call.
	Just me personally, I prefer voice calls.
	It's like in my service, we have this thing, virtual speed dating.
	So it's like three minutes, but people, they see each other, they talk to each other.
	So that first impression, how they feel about each other, it is important.
	Yeah, but definitely like the who pays thing.
	This was joking now.
	The what?
	Maybe later, maybe later.
	Let me get to my notes here.
	We have some notes.
	Who do I start with?
	Let's see.
	Oh, yeah, the thing I wanted to talk.
	Oh, going back to like everyone's relationship status, at any point or currently, have you ever had a roster?
	A roster dating multiple people at the same time?
	No, I haven't.
	Never.
	When I was younger, I did.
	Never crossover?
	When I was younger, like 17, 18, but now, no.
	How big was the roster back then?
	It's probably like three people.
	Three?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Roster?
	In the past, like possible prospects, thinking about maybe, but like crossover-wise, no.
	Okay.
	No.
	Come on, be honest.
	Be honest.
	I literally told you this earlier.
	I don't like dating people at the same time.
	makes me feel weird and i don't have like wait last show i granted it was a long time ago last Last time you were on, there was like a guy that you were kind of hooking up with, but it sounded like there was maybe some other guys in the picture.
	I could be wrong.
	I could be wrong.
	It was a long time ago.
	No, no, no, no.
	Same guy.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Ever had a roster?
	I did.
	Oh.
	Yeah, I know.
	And Angel.
	No.
	So it was, of course, before my husband.
	And I was dating actually who is the father of my child and this other guy.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So my husband, he's not the father of my child.
	We met when she was already one.
	Okay.
	I would define what roster is because I never dated.
	I never had two boyfriends or like And never had committed relationships with several people.
	But when, for example, now I date people just to, I meet, I call it I meet people, right?
	So I don't have anyone.
	I'm not go I never had a hooks up, hook up hooks up.
	Hookup.
	You've never had a hookup.
	No.
	Never.
	And never next.
	Never happened.
	I'll know those.
	All the Russian men are very charming.
	No, they're very kind of respectful and they're waiting for you.
	They are like, yeah, we have flowers.
	You know, in our culture, candies, flowers, pain forever.
	No one asking.
	So they don't wait like when?
	But they could be assholes too.
	Yeah.
	I mean, they are.
	Of course, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, it's just cultural aspects, okay?
	So I'm not saying that.
	Yeah, so no, never.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No roster, but I obviously am open to that because I do open relationship dating.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Ever had a roster?
	No.
	Zero roster.
	I have agreement with myself that if I feel the need to be with someone else, I shouldn't be with the person that I'm with right now.
	Exactly.
	Okay.
	Whether it's talking to them or, you know, talking stage, situationship, whatever.
	And I tell my partner that I feel the same with them.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I've been pursued by multiple people at the same time and like been asked out on a first date around the same time, but like I would never be exclusive with someone and have like other guys in my phone or anything.
	Sure.
	Well, I don't think that's so much what a roster is.
	It's like prior to establishing exclusivity.
	Is it?
	Is that the definition of a roster?
	Typically, I mean, because obviously if you're exclusive with somebody, it would be considered cheating.
	Right.
	Whereas a lot of people prior to establishing exclusivity will be dating and or sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
	Now, I know that's certainly not the case for you, at least when it comes because you haven't been intimate with somebody yet, but that's my view of it.
	Yeah, I feel like a roster from what I understand it to be is like before you're exclusive with someone.
	Like you're in the talking stage.
	Because yeah, if you were exclusive with someone, then that would be cheating.
	So it's like you're in a talking stage with multiple different guys, maybe going out with multiple different guys at once, right?
	And being like, oh, which one is going to, like, who am I going to pick?
	Kind of thing.
	Got it.
	Wait, who?
	I wrote down a note here, red flag X. Who was that about?
	Was that about you?
	Did you have a red flag X?
	Was that you?
	I said I was still friends with my.
	Oh, still friends with the X. That's right.
	Okay, what did I want to?
	Do you think, I guess going around the table, do you think it's a red flag if your significant other is still friends with their ex?
	If you're not okay with it, then yes, it's a red flag.
	Okay.
	I think it's a red flag.
	Hey, do you hear that?
	Is that coming from...
	It's coming.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's just playing it in the bathroom.
	Oh, okay.
	What the fuck?
	It's fine.
	Don't worry about it, Nick.
	Don't worry.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, I think it's a red flag because personally, me, I just, I wouldn't like that at all.
	Yeah, no.
	Okay.
	So there is a reason why it is X, right?
	That means that something didn't work out, but I think people should be communicating with excess only if there's kids involved.
	Everything else is just ex.
	That's it.
	Yeah, for me, it's the same, and I would say it's okay if a man are in a good relationship.
	For me, it will be a green flag instead of red flag if he has really cool relationships with ex and they have kids.
	Yeah, okay.
	Uh, can you restate the question?
	Okay, Skip, what about you?
	Um, I totally agree.
	I think it's a red flag.
	There's a reason they're not in your life anymore.
	There's a reason you're not with them every single day.
	You're not pursuing them.
	It's just drama, I think, if you're still in that area.
	Like you said, though, if there are children involved, I think you have a job to stay civil and do that for your children because you two are the ones that decided to have children together.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, I think it's a red flag.
	I would not be okay with that.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	Cool.
	Okay.
	Got that out of here.
	Got that out of here.
	Okay, let me pull up my notes here.
	Actually, let's do a couple chats since there's been a few people waiting here.
	Let me get this one.
	Actually, wait, we'll come back to that one because we have some others that came in a little.
	Okay, we have Papito Subatito.
	Matchmaker, in your experience, what are the key factors that lead to long-lasting relationships and marriages?
	Communication.
	Communication is good.
	Gotta have the communication.
	Yeah, no matter how strong the chemistry is, if sex is good, whatever, if communication is not there, we will get divorced.
	So communication is number one.
	Gotta have communication.
	Communication and chemistry, those two things.
	Communication first.
	We have Hop, girl in the back left, red shirt.
	You seem like you're a little more masculine than the normal women.
	What is your type?
	Do you go for super masculine men, beta males, or something else?
	Hashtag tomboys for the win.
	Yeah.
	I have a thing for cowboys, for specifically ranch bronch writers, which is also what I do in the rodeo.
	So it's very odd.
	I don't think I search necessarily for masculine, non-masculine.
	I definitely think I couldn't date a man, say that you painted his nails.
	Not, you know.
	No!
	But, you know, a man that will go ride a horse with me and go fishing, that's someone that I want around for the rest of my life because that's what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my life.
	So I don't think it's necessarily masculinity or a man that's more in touch with his feminine side.
	I think it's if you can connect with me on that level of things that I like to do, no judgment, I'm happy with that.
	Okay, there you have it.
	There you have it.
	We have Nickelodeon here.
	Brian's so desperate, he gotta find his guests on Wish.
	Cardi D plus, Billie Eilish, Teeter, Andrew Tate's criminal record, black widow's costume.
	If only they sold brain cells.
	I'm not sure which one's Billie Eilish.
	I'm not sure which one's.
	There's a lot more people in here than that, too.
	So I'd love to know what the rest of us are.
	They need to pay more and tell us, please.
	Yes, please.
	More money.
	Come on.
	Chop, chop.
	Yeah, which one is Billie Eilish and which one's Teeter?
	I don't know who that.
	I assume this black widow.
	I've actually been told that I look like Billie Eilish before.
	But I could see that.
	Okay, that might be a bit more.
	I don't really see it, but.
	Yeah, there you go.
	You look like Rodriguez.
	We have David Steiner to the matchmaker.
	I'm in my 30s introvert, love flannels and 90s grunge.
	I'm looking for a woman less than five feet.
	Oh my god, this is me, isn't it?
	Loves to bow and has a low body count.
	The larger the labia, hashtag BLM, big labia matter.
	What are my chances of finding this special someone?
	Well, the first question would be define what is the special someone.
	I mean, just less than five feet.
	What else is there already?
	So this guy is talking about me, I'm pretty sure.
	In 30s, introvert, love flannels, 90s grunge, looking for a woman less than five feet.
	Yes, he is explaining you.
	Loves to bow and has a low body count and a large, large labia.
	BLM.
	That would be easy then.
	Yeah, so I would absolutely, if this desire is there, like if you would want that, yes.
	Like, you know, find special someone, right?
	And she doesn't have.
	It's like, I gotta have a desire, so you gotta have a desire.
	Let's pull up the bowing video.
	Let me show the bow.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Boom!
	Huge.
	Oh, my, do you see that bow?
	That's respect.
	I need the bow.
	If there's no bow, I can't do it.
	Can't do the bow.
	If there's no bow, I can't do it.
	I can't.
	I need a bow.
	I need a bow.
	Look how attentive she is.
	Oh, my.
	I get home.
	I get a long day of podcasting.
	She's got, I don't drink beer.
	She's podcasting.
	I don't drink.
	Look, she's gonna, she's gonna, I don't know what she's doing to the noodles.
	She's spinning the noodles, I guess.
	Look how attentive.
	She looks boom.
	She looks crazy.
	You need.
	I don't know if it's crazy eyes.
	It looks like attentive eyes.
	She has very attentive eyes.
	I don't know if that's crazy eyes.
	I'm pretty certain that you would be also very happy to come home to the woman who is dressed up, all sexy, and honey, finally you're home.
	Let me give you a massage.
	Let me like even without the bow.
	Would you settle for that picture?
	Like I'm prepared to get away from you.
	Bow is non-negotiable.
	Only with nicks and bows.
	You would not let bow go for a woman who is super attentive and wants to give you a massage and relax your muscles.
	I see that you are sitting here, you know, with all this, you know, and she would be, she would be just making you feel incredible and you would forget about your work.
	Hold on, just one second, we'll come back to that.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	I called the horse girl's type from the beginning.
	It is how I called the Ford truck and Stetson.
	Dude is probably practical with his time and money.
	Works six days a week and no more than two beers a day.
	We work seven days a week, but yes.
	Wow.
	We live where we work, so.
	Oh, you guys work at the same place?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	So you were saying, thank you, grid one.
	Thank you.
	I was saying, and I'm certain, like 100%, you would let Bow go if all the other things were there.
	I'm certain.
	I mean, I'm being facetious.
	I don't need the bow.
	It's not.
	She's a 10, but she likes him.
	Is there a chance?
	Absolutely.
	So this guy was asking.
	I do feel like I could make a good case for Bowen.
	I can make a very good case for Bowie.
	Brian, I'm just catching up.
	What the fuck did Red Top across from Brian say?
	Miss Konit, Red Top, say it again.
	I'm fucking dead.
	Those lashes killing brain cells.
	Das Vidaniel Beach.
	What is Dust Madania?
	She never says a feminist.
	He wants you to say it one more time.
	Can you say it one more time?
	No.
	Into the mic.
	Do it to this.
	I'm not saying it again.
	Come on, come on, come on.
	Come on.
	Okay, it wasn't cute because you guys are making fun of her.
	So I'm actually going to take this one.
	If you guys could really just fuck off.
	What?
	Thanks.
	What?
	Next question.
	It's not nice.
	Let's keep it moving.
	Well, they did call her a feminist, and she did say that she was not a feminist, so incorrect on the last one.
	Just like you corrected her saying hookups, you could have easily corrected her saying misogynistic.
	It was, well, okay, hold on.
	The way she said it was funny.
	Let's not get overly offended.
	It was funny.
	It's not a big deal.
	You don't have to ask me repetitive times.
	Well, yeah, because it was the way you were saying it was funny.
	Yeah, we knew what I was saying.
	Huh?
	They knew what I was saying.
	Yes, I knew what you were saying, but the way you were saying it was funny.
	Are you guys really that offended over this?
	Can't you guys, like.
	I mean, it was funny at first when you.
	I mispronounced shit.
	Like, y'all, I. Jacama?
	There's this guy.
	Where are you, modest Jacama?
	I don't know how to pronounce some words.
	It was funny the first time when you asked me now.
	It's just not funny.
	Oh, well, that wasn't me.
	That was my super chatter.
	Well, super chatter.
	You were biting first, so now we're buying back.
	We're saying, fuck off.
	Next question.
	Ooh.
	That just means they have to pay more money to bite back.
	So keep paying money to bite back.
	Keep buying, please.
	See, but I feel like you're blowing out of proportion, whereas you could.
	Yeah, a little bit.
	Well, if I am there, you could just, yeah, okay, hold on.
	I will dictate the pace of the podcast, okay?
	Relax.
	I think, like, if you just, instead of getting upset about it, if you just almost leaned into it, like, let me do it again, like, that would almost come off better than being like, oh no, I accidentally mispronounced a word.
	How dare you bring that back up?
	That I mispronounced a word.
	Like, I don't falter for mispronouncing, excuse me.
	Bro, I stutter over here, too.
	They roast the fuck out of me.
	I fucking stutter.
	I mispronounce shit.
	It's not a big deal.
	I would have almost like, I think the better move would be to lean into it and be like, nothing.
	Let me say it one more time.
	I just.
	She's not you.
	She just doesn't want to say it.
	That's it.
	We're not going to do it.
	Okay, but why are that's my friend?
	That's what I did.
	Yeah, but she can speak for herself.
	She said it already.
	I don't want to say it.
	I don't want to say it again.
	No, you, I mean, you don't, but okay, you could have just leaned into it.
	You can make jokes about my accent.
	It's okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No problem.
	We're going to say lots of wrong words.
	Apparently I sound like I'm Canadian, so somehow we're loving it.
	Moving on.
	If people don't like it, it's okay.
	Of course.
	I think what he's trying to do, though, to be fair, is you haven't really said a lot, so I think he's trying to reel you into the conversation a little bit.
	I'll talk.
	I just like to say the word again.
	Okay, all right, that's fine.
	That's fine.
	I think it's also probably a reaction that he's fishing for, you know.
	There is this also this thing called the Streisand effect.
	It could be possible that we're going to get some more comments about that.
	Okay, moving on.
	The guy just wasn't.
	Wait, so did you get to finish on this?
	I don't remember what was it?
	The bowing.
	Yeah, I did.
	Large labia.
	Yeah.
	I mean, low body.
	I do believe by the end of this podcast, we will fix you.
	Where you're going to be like, I want a wife and I want to be the best husband in the world.
	And I'm going to get her and I'm ready and committed.
	Because he's already showed that he's coachable because he started paying for the first date.
	So the hope is there.
	Yeah, he's still kind of on the fence.
	But yeah.
	Listen, I'm high maintenance.
	I'm going to admit it.
	I am high maintenance.
	And you should be.
	Absolutely.
	I'm the woman just understand.
	You ladies gotta wine and dine me.
	I need back massages and bowing.
	So, yeah, you gotta give the instructions to your woman.
	I need schoolgirl outfits.
	I need a lot.
	I need a lot from my woman.
	It's not a lot.
	It's complicated.
	She will deliver four or five of the items out of 20 from your list.
	You will be already happy and you will be like, honey, you know what?
	A little tying up is sometimes fun.
	You know, never say never.
	What?
	What about when it comes to you getting tied up?
	No.
	Exactly.
	Never say never.
	Come on now.
	Nope.
	Exactly.
	I cannot.
	I don't want it.
	No, Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Absolutely not.
	By the end of the year, Brian is married.
	And you're going to make it happen.
	Well, he has to be happy with the girl.
	You're on the job.
	You will be happy for the rest of your life.
	I can guarantee you that.
	Because I'm going to be on the top always.
	No, on the top of your relationship.
	I do prefer right away.
	I know.
	I do prefer.
	You haven't been.
	You're going to come to him in his dreams.
	I am going to be guiding your woman.
	I'm going to be coaching her.
	Like, look, okay.
	Girl on top is my favorite position.
	Like, not talking about you, but I do.
	I will create an ideal woman.
	I want to be in control, but girl on top, like, you know, the minimum effort, maximum pleasure.
	I love it.
	It's great.
	It's great.
	And you have access.
	What?
	What?
	It will be like ideal, absolutely ideal woman.
	Yeah.
	Your wife.
	I'm not going to get married, though.
	I don't think I can be.
	Well, you see, to get all of those gifts that I'm just describing here, the only thing that requires is the key and key to the garden.
	The garden?
	Yes.
	To the garden.
	Is this a sexual innuendo?
	It is a special.
	From the Bible.
	The garden.
	This garden.
	The titties?
	No, this garden.
	This secret garden.
	The secret garden.
	Yes, and the key is serene.
	You just put it in there and I've gone to the secret garden before.
	You haven't got it totally secret.
	That was nothing.
	Whatever you had before, it was not.
	Yes.
	It was not special.
	Are you saying I hooked up with a transgender?
	It takes, no, I'm saying that it takes a woman.
	Actually, the secret garden.
	It takes a very special woman to get man, to get men to the point that he wants to be.
	Does that just make it awkward?
	To make her.
	To red top.
	You know you're very pretty.
	But playing too cool for school isn't attractive for folks that know what they want.
	Who's which red top?
	Her or her?
	Nine liner RH, which who are we talking about?
	Red shirt and red.
	I feel like that's the when they've referred to me, they've said red button up or red girl.
	So I do.
	Red shirt her.
	How is she acting too cool for?
	She's asking for respect.
	Can you like elaborate on that?
	Yeah.
	Please elaborate, L 9 liner.
	100 more bucks right now.
	200, 200.
	Double it.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	The secret garden or whatever.
	Yeah, so that's it takes a very special woman to make a man to want to marry her to make his for the rest of the life.
	Oh, I could have a long-term life partner, girlfriend, whatever, but marriage.
	So you're like a penguin.
	There is a 1% chance I will get married.
	There's still a chance.
	You see?
	There's still a chance.
	How tall are you?
	I'm 4'11".
	So he made fun of you for your speech, but because you're 4'11".
	Red Top, will you marry me?
	No.
	Ooh. Damn.
	Yo, R.I.P.'s in the chat, boys.
	4-11.
	I lost it.
	I lost it.
	I fucked it up with the massage and he thing.
	I was in.
	You are still fighting.
	I was in some ways.
	And then I had to make fun of her because of the massage.
	You did have it in the back.
	I had it in the bag.
	I had it in the bag 4-11.
	I was so bad for you.
	Boys.
	4-11.
	And I lost it.
	Can I redeem?
	Do you think I can redeem?
	Is there redemption?
	Everybody loves a comeback story.
	A redemption arc.
	Oh, God.
	Redemption arc.
	Maybe.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	There is a chance.
	Oh, no, it's actually working.
	All right.
	Second day, third date.
	Loose pussy energy donated $100.
	White Top 304.
	Your friend can talk for herself.
	Oh.
	She can't even pronounce the words she using against Brian.
	Learn to speak.
	Cash me outside.
	How about that?
	Take it back to 2020.
	I think that's directed at you.
	Do you want to respond to that?
	I said that I didn't want the smoke.
	Wait, please use his name when responding.
	Go ahead.
	Use his name.
	Say his name.
	Oh, my God.
	Say his name.
	Say it.
	Loose pussy energy, right?
	Is that loose pussy energy?
	Who said that I didn't want the smoke?
	Oh, do you want the smoke?
	Let's go.
	Let's go.
	Mandy Moore?
	Huh?
	Girl?
	Mandy Moore, OnlyFan Subscribers.
	Kamia 304 is crazy.
	Oh, shit.
	That's crazy.
	That's crazy, son.
	LPE, what you doing?
	What are you doing?
	What are you doing, bro?
	Loose pussy energy.
	Loose pussy energy.
	What are you doing?
	What are you doing?
	Brian.
	What were we talking about?
	I don't even know.
	I'm your hype man.
	What do you think about it?
	I'm your hype man.
	About what?
	This.
	Loose pussy energy.
	First off, 304 is an area code.
	Do you know what 304 stands for?
	No, what does this stand for?
	I don't know.
	It's like, stands for like, correct me if I'm wrong, anybody.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Prostitution.
	B, she was a hoa.
	Oh.
	Girl.
	304.
	A hoe.
	Like, you never heard.
	Holy fuck.
	I'm just finding.
	I thought it literally, I thought it was an area code this entire time.
	No, 304 means prostitute.
	Stop.
	I thought you were.
	Yeah, but it was an area code that.
	No.
	Wait, what were we talking about before this?
	That's not my area code.
	Also.
	Listen.
	Can I ask you a question?
	Is English your second language?
	No, it's my first and only language.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	I was trying to build commonality because English is my second language.
	It's my story, you're mixed, like messed up.
	French is my first language, that's why I'm, I cannot properly form a sentence fucking ever, because English is my first, sorry, French is my first.
	See, I can't speak, guys.
	French.
	Can you spit something in French?
	Vous le vous couché avic ma sewa.
	I know who's.
	Hey, he's making the comeback.
	Would you like to sleep with me tonight?
	And it's from the song.
	Yeah, I love it.
	No, that's why I go.
	So was it an open question or just citation?
	Citing.
	I mean, if you want to.
	What is that word?
	It's a Russian word.
	It's bleat.
	Oh my god, you go back.
	What is that?
	It goes bad.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	It means a bad man, bad girl, bad situation.
	You can use it to whatever.
	It means like, yes, exactly.
	Fuck shit.
	Okay.
	I see.
	I see.
	Let me get into my notes here.
	We have notes from some of you guys.
	Or short.
	Wait, let's do Twitch.
	Do we need?
	Let's do Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever.
	Oh, my bad.
	Go ahead, Nick.
	Oh, can you exit out of that down there?
	Thank you.
	We have, I'm trying to remember where I left off.
	Did I do Hitman thing for the tier one?
	Alpha Smasher thing for the Prime.
	Richard Oberly thing for the Tier 1.
	Oh, I think I already got these.
	My bad.
	Duckman, thank for the Prime.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv/slash whatever.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	If you have one, thank you, guys.
	Thank you.
	All right, let me get into my notes here.
	I got to get through these notes hopefully before the end of the show.
	So, okay, let's see.
	You said that celibacy is underrated.
	Oh, shit!
	Yo, AB Check.
	Thank you very much, man.
	Thank you.
	AB Check, you are a gentleman and a scholar and a legend.
	Thank you, man.
	Appreciate it.
	In your pre-show notes to us, you said celibacy is underrated.
	How so?
	To each their own.
	That's just kind of more of a personal preference, but I just, I don't know.
	I feel like there's a lot of unhealed people and I don't know.
	Sexual healing.
	Have you heard of that?
	Sure.
	Sexual healing?
	Marvin.
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	Marvin again.
	To each their own.
	Teach their own.
	So, well, you've been celibate, right?
	Or you are celibate.
	How long have you been celibate again?
	Over a year.
	Over a year?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Wait, but you've been single for three years.
	So this was that just like a short-term thing or like a friends with benefits or was it your ex?
	No, it's not my ex.
	You never recycle.
	I just kind of like did it around a little bit, but I don't know.
	Just like personal preference, I've just been inside with my grandmother.
	You've been inside of your grandmother?
	No, I've been inside.
	Fuck, bro.
	Chicks don't know how to roll with the punches because they've never been hate.
	Big mouth shouldn't be so eager to experience it.
	To finish the list, Big Mouth, literally, Milani Frump.
	Smokey Bear.
	Smokey Bear.
	What?
	Nickelodeon?
	Hello?
	I'm so confused.
	I kind of, I think I know who he's talking about.
	Oh.
	Okay, thank you, Nickelodeon.
	Appreciate it.
	Appreciate it.
	You said you were what with your caring for my grandmother full-time.
	She's 97, so I've just been in the middle of her taking care of her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I feel like when you're in a relationship and if you're hooking up, you can easily like overlook things because you have that emotional context, emotional connection on like a deeper level, having that intimacy.
	Yeah.
	Word.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, question for the whole panel related to celibacy.
	How long do you think you should wait?
	You'd like to wait before having sex with somebody new?
	Go ahead.
	I think it just depends when the vibe is right.
	First night, I'm with you.
	Okay.
	I agree.
	To each their own.
	I just kind of like to get to know the person a little bit before.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to say there's like a set time.
	Let me ask you.
	Okay, sure, sure, sure.
	Well, you've been celibate for a year.
	Let's say that super studdly soy boy, feminist, traditional guy.
	He's feminist, but also super-based, traditional, but also feminist, but also wants to pay for first dates.
	But also a feminist.
	He comes around and he's like, by the way, what's your first name again?
	I just have you written here as Yikes.
	Yeah, that's what I call Yikes.
	That's what I call Yikes.
	No.
	No, what's your first name?
	No, just call me Yikes.
	Wait, what did she introduce her?
	I'd actually prefer Yikes.
	Just say your first name.
	Is it something weird like Gertrude?
	Opal?
	No, Nicole.
	I just like Yikes.
	I think we'll call you Nicole, because Yikes.
	Yikes.
	First, what's the origin story for the Yikes?
	Are you just Yikes?
	That's just been my username for a long time.
	Yikes.
	did you get it by the way I feel like you having a phone and like early access to Instagram When did you register that?
	Because I feel like that would have been...
	Well, you have Y1KES.
	Yeah.
	But even that, I feel like, would have been swooped.
	Did you buy it?
	No, I did not buy it.
	I got it when I was in middle school.
	Oh, okay.
	That's fair.
	Oh, you've had it for a minute then.
	Yeah.
	Is that your rapper-poet name?
	Is Yikes?
	Do you have a SoundCloud, by the way?
	I do have a SoundCloud, but I don't post anything on it.
	But on the X app, I do have a book club, so if anybody wants to join my book club, book and poetry at yikes with a one instead of an I, poet on the X app.
	Oh.
	You guys should join that.
	Shut the fuck up!
	I didn't mean to press that.
	I'm bad.
	My bad.
	My bad.
	Wait, so okay.
	That's lame.
	No, that was unintentional, my bad.
	I was going to press a different one, but that one accidentally got pressed.
	Okay.
	How long do you think you should wait before you meet this super traditional feminist guy who's also liberal but traditional?
	How long are you going to...
	Okay, I'm not going off of a basis of those labels, but...
	He's also really hot.
	And it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest.
	Looks don't matter to you?
	No, not in particular, no.
	Only your own?
	I like looking good.
	I'm just wondering.
	Richard donated $100.
	I am ready to subscribe to Miss Blue to set me up with Miss Yellow.
	Oh, they are.
	Yeah, unfortunately, I can't read the Russian.
	Actually, wait.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	I'm going to do this guy a favor here.
	I'm going to switch it.
	I'm going to switch the language to a Russian thing.
	So then, and I'll re-trigger it and I'll see if it works.
	Go ahead.
	Do you want to answer while I do that?
	Is there a question in this?
	Oh, I don't know.
	It sounds like you're about to answer.
	He wants you.
	Come and give me.
	And get me.
	Because I will give you my love.
	She's ready.
	She's ready to be a wife.
	Is it romantic enough?
	And she's going to be a perfect, perfect wife.
	Richard, I'm doing you a solid here.
	I'm doing you a solid.
	It's going to be so bad.
	I am ready to subscribe to Ms. Blue to set them up with Ms. Yellow.
	Brian, I.T.I.S.
	One of the best streamers, I.V.E.R.
	Jeltaia девочка, ты солнечный свет для моих глаз и ушей.
	Все, что вы говорите, в точку.
	So basically, what it says, yellow girl, you are the sunlight for my eyes and my ears.
	Everything that you say is spot on.
	That's so cute.
	Thank you so much.
	That was beautiful, Richard.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Okay, if anybody, I'm gonna change it to Japanese, so somebody drop some Japanese shit right now.
	I've changed it to Japanese for one message, drop a fucking Japanese shit.
	Okay, not actually a shit, but you know, whatever.
	You're welcome.
	So I'm picky, I have standards.
	If they're meeting like standards, and there's a relationship established and they're respectful, like sure.
	Question: The last guy that you hooked up with, how long did you wait before hooking up?
	A while.
	A while.
	So like a week?
	Months.
	Months?
	Yeah.
	Talk closely.
	Months.
	Months.
	Okay, months.
	What about your three-year boyfriend?
	How long did you wait for him?
	Months.
	Months?
	Yeah.
	Okay, she's got a standard.
	She sticks to it.
	She's very picky.
	How are you picky?
	I'm just curious.
	Well, I'd like to get to know the person first, like establish a friendship and then see where that goes.
	Oh.
	And yeah.
	Oh.
	Okay.
	Height?
	Does height matter?
	You like short guys, tall guys?
	At least like a little bit taller than me.
	Well, how tall are you?
	I'm like 5'6.
	So like, wait, you're too far from the mic.
	I prefer talking to you.
	Do this.
	Scoot the mic this way a little bit.
	Scoot into the table because you have plenty of space to scoot into the table.
	Okay.
	You prefer taller?
	How tall are you?
	5'6.
	So what's like, do you have a bare minimum height?
	Like 5'10, 6 feet?
	No.
	I prefer a taller guy.
	Taller.
	Okay, that's fine.
	That's valid.
	Okay, you're picky.
	Wait, so hold on.
	Guys got to pay for everything.
	Okay, all right, whatever.
	I'm not going to get back to the paying shit.
	That's just, we dragged that one too long.
	How long do you think you should wait, Mandy Moore?
	Mandy, sorry, Do whatever you want at this point.
	I said, do whatever you want at this point.
	Okay.
	I'm talking about my current status.
	I'm going to say like the third date.
	I mean, it's fine.
	Third date?
	So fine.
	Yeah.
	Your current man is fine.
	So fine.
	Okay.
	And also, shout out to the short kings.
	We love the short kings.
	Yes, for real.
	It will climb this tree.
	I'm glad this tree won't climb it.
	How long do you think until the point that he knows that I am the one to the point that he is willing to propose marriage?
	I tried to practice that with my husband and it didn't work.
	So he broke me on a week number.
	In a week number, no, month's number two.
	Yeah, so but we together we actually spent 24 hours only because we had like two hours each date.
	Interesting.
	But but the point until he knows that she is the one.
	Yes.
	Every woman that I've slept with, I knew she was the one.
	That's why we didn't work.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, you see, I seem to go sitting here still waiting for the right person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay, good talk.
	What about you?
	I'm very boring here, you know.
	Because for me, I have no standards.
	I mean, in height, in eye color, in nationality to match as well.
	But I need to build some bond to be very into this person to see that he can be my future husband.
	You know, when I reach this point, that this person, kind of spiritually wise, kinda.
	Yo, Doc, the Nable.
	Thank you for the gift of 20 memberships.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, man.
	Really appreciate your support.
	Thank you, dude.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, so I never had sex on a third date, for example.
	I don't judge.
	I think everything is cool when it suits to people.
	For me, it doesn't work like this.
	I need to go into this person or his brain.
	Usually, it was like from maybe a month and a half to two months.
	Something like that.
	Sure.
	Okay.
	As far as height and skip, go ahead.
	What about you?
	I think I'd say between two and three months, I like to get to know the person and be confident that it's not going to be a, I'm going to fuck you and I'm going to block you.
	And while you're waiting for marriage.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I'm trying to find out why do I keep getting skipped?
	Well, I mean, it's not the first time that we've gone around the table.
	Everybody else is prepared to answer and you've asked me to repeat what the question is.
	Because you asked multiple questions.
	You asked about age and you also.
	That's fair, but I was going around the table asking how long do you think you should wait for or how long do you like to wait before hooking up with somebody?
	That was the question.
	Every single girl here was able.
	You switched to age.
	You asked different questions.
	You asked.
	Age?
	Yeah, they just asked.
	They just needed to be aware of that.
	No, I asked her about height.
	I asked her about height as a clarifying question because she said she was picky, related to the question of how long or how long do you like to wait before having sex.
	But then she answered the question, she answered the question.
	This girl here answered the question, she answered the question.
	So sometimes if I don't feel particularly inclined to repeat myself, I will just skip.
	Yeah, I just want to say that.
	But that was the, I'm not trying to be rude, but it was the second time that you, perhaps even the third time, that you asked me to restate the question.
	So it's just like you should try, you should be trying to pay attention to the conversation.
	Yeah, but the question veered off into a different question, but okay.
	Well, yes, but the original question was, and I mean, if you were paying attention to what the other girls were saying, you could have perhaps tuned in or tapped in to what the question was.
	I was asking, which one did you want me to answer?
	Because they're describing the type of guy in terms of only she really went into that.
	I've asked you to.
	They did.
	They did.
	I've asked you.
	Sorry.
	I've asked you to repeat a question, and she's trying to do the same thing.
	And she's wondering why you're skipping her.
	You should try to be like, you shouldn't have a problem with repeating a question without a question.
	I mean, it's a little bit different.
	Especially if the conversation veers a little bit.
	It's like just reasonable.
	That's a fair point.
	That's a way of women, our minds is like out of space.
	You guys, one box, and I'll go.
	Look, I think the discussion will win from the Clarissa's answer.
	I think your answer should also be shorter, too, because that's why there was that confusion there.
	That's fair.
	That's fair.
	However, I would encourage you, just because it's the second time that you forgot the question, please, I just ask that you pay attention to the question.
	If you'd like an opportunity now to answer the question, you're welcome to.
	So how long would you like to or think you should wait for first having sex with somebody?
	I think there's no specific time.
	It just needs to be time to heal from the last relationship.
	And that time varies depending on the person.
	You should never just like do series dating.
	Okay, sure.
	And if it is the case that there's interrupting questions where I ask clarifying questions and it's taking a while to get to you, I will make it a point to, if you forget what the question is, I will restate it.
	However, I do ask that everybody here at the table try to pay attention to the conversation so that I need not have to constantly repeat myself or ask you guys to speak into the microphone, etc.
	Okay.
	So, let's see here.
	Where were we?
	I think I was going through some of my notes here.
	Let's see.
	I'm still in the massage around.
	No, they answered.
	They answered.
	Let's see.
	I had this written down for Cece.
	You're Cece, right?
	Celeste, yeah.
	Okay.
	I go by Cece.
	Did you answer our pre-show questions?
	I think.
	I didn't.
	No.
	Oh, I have something written here, but.
	Oh, do you consider yourself traditional?
	Yes, I do.
	Help me elaborate.
	Sure.
	I'm from a Mexican traditional household, so the man's role is to work, and the woman does the cleaning, watches the kids, and I grew up in that, and that's kind of how I go on about things.
	Okay.
	Is there any other, do you care to like add anything to that?
	Any other metrics with which you consider yourself to be traditional?
	I mean, I am traditional where I prefer that the man pays, but that depends on certain circumstances.
	Sure.
	I looked at your Instagram.
	I don't even know if we can pull it up because there's a photo on your Instagram.
	I don't know if we can pull it up because I feel like the photo is fucking almost TOS.
	I'm surprised it doesn't.
	I don't know.
	There's a photo, Cece.
	On your Instagram.
	And it's like looking right down Main Street.
	Is it the Hawaii one?
	I'm not sure where the location is, but your body positioning is interesting.
	Which one are you talking about?
	I think I know, but I like want to.
	There's a beach.
	Okay, yeah.
	There's a bikini.
	That's my Hawaii picture.
	I'm like, I'm looking down, looking at the photo.
	Chat, I feel like I can't even.
	Hold on, let me ask the chat.
	Chat, go to her Instagram.
	I'm doing you a solid here.
	Go to her Instagram.
	Go to her Instagram.
	And pull up her Instagram.
	It's in the description.
	You guys will see the photo I'm talking about.
	Is it TOS?
	Would it be TOS to pull it up?
	I don't think it's safe for YouTube.
	I genuinely do not.
	Chat.
	One in the chat.
	I don't think.
	I don't think it's safe.
	Don't do it, boys.
	I don't think it's safe to pull up.
	Because it's like on the edge.
	I'm surprised.
	Put something over it or no?
	Blur or something.
	I don't know if that's.
	I don't think we can do that.
	I don't think we can do it.
	Hey, cake emojis.
	Let's just say you're essentially, it's basically a you're in doggy position, and it's like, here's your ass.
	Here's the guy taking the, maybe it's a chick, taking a photo.
	And I'm like, you're looking right down Main Street and you're wearing, granted, you're wearing a bikini.
	Is it traditional?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I'm leaning towards no.
	The butt ref thong photo.
	They're looking, so they know.
	They are looking.
	But chat, chat, have you pulled it up?
	Do you know what?
	I can't pull it up because I feel like it's probably against YouTube TOS.
	She's just lifting blank to drop a truck, stop, fart, relax.
	Girls do it all the time when they don't realize the camera is on.
	That's true.
	That one was good.
	That one was good.
	I, you know.
	Women fart too.
	Thank you, layoff, Brian.
	I, you know, can you be traditional?
	I mean, if I'm in a relationship and someone doesn't like that, I would gladly take it down.
	But I'm the single one.
	Okay, I'm gonna change it back to Brian.
	Can I add to that though?
	Yeah.
	So what is a traditional man like to you?
	Like, what is the definition of a traditional man?
	Like a provider.
	Okay.
	So, like, I guess what the chat's kind of saying and how people perceive like traditional men and women, like, would a traditional man want, like, before you're even with him, like, seeing that so many people have seen this picture of you and seen this side of you, like, would he want that?
	I mean, necessarily not, but there will be others that would still want that and want to provide for me.
	She's 4'11.
	She's 4'11.
	4'11.
	I just think your chances of finding a traditional man that would want to provide for you, and I'm not saying there isn't men out there like that, but I think the chances are a lot more slim.
	She is 4'11, not all.
	I think the chances are more high.
	I mean, I have found traditional men that have provided me.
	She's probably 4'10, but she's claiming 4'11.
	110 and a half.
	He's right.
	See, I know it's a good idea.
	Let's not pretend that men don't like sexuality, beautiful lady, that no one wants to be like, oh my god, no, no, no, I never wanted to be her in like my apartment or something.
	Let's not go like that because we all understand that men, of course, like sexuality, like beauty, different types of beauty.
	And of course, some men like this type of beauty.
	Oh, some men like this type of openness and so on.
	So I think chances for provider, sorry, higher there than like in different, if either in situ or in either situation, $100.
	Oh my god.
	I got pink eye just looking at that picture.
	It shows off the goods.
	Look, it shows off the goods.
	I think just.
	She's 410.
	Just remember that.
	That's my point.
	Well, that's my point.
	But I think it's, that's not really what we're talking about.
	I think we're more so just talking about that she said that she's traditional, but.
	So what's a traditional woman?
	Well, part of being, my argument would be part of being a traditional woman, one of the things would be modesty, both in appearance and in demeanor and personality.
	And so having a publicly available photo, granted, I mean you do OnlyFans 2, but having a publicly on your public Instagram page a photo of like this is what you would see if you were hidden from the back.
	You know what I mean?
	Like it's a little, it's a nice photo, don't get me wrong.
	But is it tradition?
	Does it coincide with being a traditional woman?
	I mean, no.
	I don't think so.
	You know, I don't.
	We need to correct the path.
	Pull out your phone right now.
	Do we allow the archive?
	Do we allow the archive?
	Can we allow the archive?
	Or do you guys delete it?
	Should she delete it chat?
	I've deleted 100 cameras.
	I'm looking, but I ain't providing to that lack of modesty.
	It's okay, someone else will come.
	I'm looking, but I ain't providing to that lack of modesty.
	Nine-line RH.
	Thank you, sir.
	That's much appreciated.
	Are you down?
	We're going to correct the path.
	Are you down to take that photo down right now?
	Yeah.
	You'll do it?
	For me?
	Huh, babe.
	You're the best.
	I'm going to pull.
	Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
	If you want a relationship dress, act and be about finding a relationship.
	Us pics on the web are red flags and at best good for now girls, not wife material.
	If you want to be a party host Obwitz.
	Look, but there is her choice, you know, how to appear, how to.
	It's just her risks, her chances, her life.
	It's just more about maybe we're talking about kind of not a term like definition, I am a traditional woman, but more she leans towards traditional values.
	She doesn't sleep with every each guy each day because some other girls who doesn't look like beautifully, like this girl, can have hooks up every day, every day.
	And you will never know and you will never judge them.
	I mean, not personally.
	I would judge.
	I'd still judge them.
	No, but you personally.
	I'd still judge.
	You personally, yes, but you're like, yeah, we don't count on you anymore, okay?
	But other guys, you know, probably they have higher chances.
	But I mean, you know, sometimes what we see, it's kind of not what is.
	She can be modest.
	But we, of course, know this.
	Sure.
	She leans towards traditional values.
	She wants traditional husbands.
	She wants traditional kids.
	And she doesn't sleep with everyone.
	I'm more than happy.
	Well, we don't know.
	We don't know.
	No, no, no.
	But I mean, hypothetically, you know what I mean?
	That when you jerk.
	That is actually a very fair argument because there is this sort of, I don't know if this is the right word, almost dogmatic.
	It's black or white.
	Like you have to be a hundred percent traditional in every single regard.
	And if you deviate even slightly, then you are, you know, I suffered.
	It is a spectrum, I guess you could say.
	And that's something I've, that is actually a very good counter-argument.
	And you know what?
	One that I just let me that is something that I think I've struggled to combat when it comes to this sort of debate is, well, clearly, like, you need not be a hunt.
	If we view being traditional as to some degree a spectrum, like maybe you fall like very strongly traditional, but in some aspects, you might not be totally traditional.
	And that could apply for both men and women.
	So that is a fair point.
	However.
	The chances.
	However, I do think one of the big components of being traditional, a very important component, let's say, using your point, she might not be promiscuous and might not sleep with a bunch of men, whatever.
	That's a very desirable thing.
	And in that dimension, she is a traditional woman.
	However, I think being traditional to some degree is the totality of everything together.
	I think modesty is a big thing when it comes to being traditional.
	So within that paradigm of being traditional, I think she's falling short.
	She's lacking modesty in that regard.
	We can judge modesty by appearance, just only appearance, of course.
	There's a lot of factors.
	It's a lot of factors.
	Tomorrow, she will wear sport wear for you.
	No lashes like this.
	Is that true, babe?
	You don't wear lashes.
	You will date her first day.
	You will ask her for a first date.
	She will close her Instagram with pictures.
	You will never see it.
	And you will never recognize in her, you know, someone who is, you will never say, oh, she's not traditional.
	She's not.
	She's not.
	She just needs a little bit of a guidance what it is to be traditional.
	I just need to go ahead and get a chance.
	Yeah, a partner needs to be coach.
	I'll do some guidance.
	Just guys.
	What do you think about that bowing video?
	You like the bow?
	Can I see a bow?
	Can you do a bow really quick?
	No bow.
	No bows?
	No bows.
	Maybe later?
	You want a bow from a rush?
	Third date.
	Maybe a bow on the third date.
	Okay, good talk.
	Where were we?
	I forgot where we were.
	I don't remember.
	So traditional woman always says yes.
	So when he says, yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Come on.
	Oh, so last thing, guys, what's your Instagram again?
	Guys, go to...
	CC Rian.
	Guys, one in the chat.
	Check out her Instagram.
	There's one specific photo.
	It's like a red.
	Is it a red king?
	It's orange.
	It's orange.
	Okay.
	Is it traditional?
	She says she's a traditional woman, but if you look at her Instagram, is she traditional?
	One in the chat if she's traditional.
	Two in the chat if she's not traditional.
	Two in the chat if she is not traditional.
	One in the chat.
	I mean, they're just looking at me to the channel.
	did i just flip those did i just did i just i think you got confused I'm easily confused.
	Two in the chat?
	If it's not traditional, one in the chat if it's traditional.
	It's a cliche, of course.
	Everyone, it's very easy to judge from the first take, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's easy to judge.
	We all love judging, but sometimes we are very mistaken.
	Also, I just, on that photo, you guys all have to leave a comment, and it just has to say misogynist.
	Okay.
	That's so mean.
	I'm not even saying no.
	Don't worry about that.
	Just don't let him get under your skin.
	Seriously.
	Because Brian's a misogynist or something.
	On her post, just write.
	Brian's a misogynist.
	Okay, okay.
	All right, cool, cool, cool.
	Where were we?
	Oh, okay.
	So we got Cece here.
	Who we got?
	We have, to get to Tessa.
	You are a welder slash animal caretaker.
	Welder.
	Okay, I didn't know that.
	Yes, I do working at the range.
	Okay.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yeah, I weld too.
	Okay.
	You're a conservative, traditional.
	You have a scorpion tattoo also.
	What's the origin story on the scorpion tattoo?
	The smaller they are, the more poison they have.
	And it's like right here on next to your.
	No, it's it's higher up on my stomach.
	So it's on my stomach.
	It's not lower down.
	But it's like it's in the vicinity.
	Yeah, I wanted it on my stomach, and I just didn't like how it looked higher placement.
	So I was like, we'll bring it down.
	I see, okay.
	You said you dated a deadbeat bull rider.
	You were engaged and found out you were cheated on multiple times.
	Yes.
	So he was a bullfighter or a bull rider?
	Bull rider.
	Bull rider.
	He rode bulls.
	Yeah, he couldn't last eight seconds, though.
	So are we still talking about bull riding?
	We're still talking about bull riding.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to double-check.
	How long did he last in other departments?
	I never, you don't have to.
	Yeah, why do you want to?
	I'm not really sure, honestly.
	Yeah, let's go with that.
	Okay.
	Actually, related to that, is it a deal breaker if a guy is a premature ejaculator?
	That's a first for the whatever podcast.
	Why not?
	Is it a deal breaker, Cece?
	Yes.
	Fuck.
	If he falls.
	If he comes too fast.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Sorry, sister, sorry.
	Sorry, sorry, sorry.
	It's good.
	It's good.
	We'll work on it.
	We'll work on it.
	He just broke his heart again for part two.
	Fuck, dude.
	Next, he will.
	410.
	Fuck.
	Yeah.
	He's going to start throwing shit.
	Is it a deal breaker for you, Nicole?
	Nicole?
	Nicole?
	Into the mic portfolio.
	I would just say, work on that.
	Like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	What do you mean you don't know?
	Of course you know.
	Right?
	I suppose you would know.
	That mic is right there for you whenever you get a sec.
	Can you follow that?
	I've had that happen before, and I wasn't like judgmental.
	It's like.
	I need to be more sarcastic with the talk and talk.
	Oh my god, Nicole, I'm choking.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I'll pass this question.
	Because of the premature ejaculation thing.
	Like, is it a deal breaker?
	No.
	Okay, that's cool.
	What about, Mandy?
	What about you?
	If you come fast, but you eat pussy, I'm all with you.
	Okay, we can talk about that too.
	No, not a deal breaker.
	It's only I guess I'm trying to see the positive in people and everything.
	It could mean that he feels very special that the woman he's with is super, super special.
	Yeah.
	He cannot hold him.
	So like he's ready to marry her, right?
	The pussy's so good, like he can't.
	It just couldn't.
	He's like, she's so special.
	The pussy's.
	Women should view premature ejaculation not as a deficit in men, but really it's a compliment that you're that hot, you're that sexy.
	The pussy's that bomb, son.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, we've got to reframe it.
	Don't, don't, yeah, it's a compliment.
	It's a compliment, ladies.
	Yeah, in the chat, everybody will be saying, it's me serious.
	What about you?
	Remember, I'm boring, and if we.
	Stop the cow.
	If we reach this point when I know when he comes, right?
	So it means I spent with him maybe months or two months and so on.
	So for me, it would not be a deal breaker.
	I would like to, I would try to understand what is going on.
	Like, you know, maybe we're not too sexy.
	A lingerie for him to last longer.
	Yeah, something like that.
	You know, I will not.
	But the lingerie makes him last longer.
	Exactly.
	That's a new one.
	I haven't heard that.
	No, just maybe I'm too sexy following up on the conversation.
	I see it.
	Yeah, It's very sexy for him.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, it would be a deal breaker.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No, it wouldn't at all.
	Okay.
	I don't think it would be.
	Yeah.
	You're like, I'm not very educated on that.
	You've not had the experience.
	But the thing is, like, if I'm having sex with someone, it's because I'm married to them, and so I'm already committed to them regardless.
	So it's something that you work on together.
	So based.
	Absolutely.
	It's beautiful.
	Till death do us apart.
	Yep.
	In sickness.
	Regardless of anything.
	In sickness and influence.
	You ate when we all die.
	In everything.
	And we have a lot of suppliers.
	Have any of you guys experienced that?
	Like a guy just comes too quick.
	Have you guys at Cece?
	Yes.
	Nicole, have you had that experience?
	A guy just a little quick on the.
	Y'all?
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Mandy?
	Yes, I have.
	Okay, but you said, oh, if he eats pussy, it makes it for it.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Here, related.
	Oh, I guess we'll go.
	Has it happened?
	Yeah, a lot.
	A lot?
	Yeah.
	She got the bomb pussy, I guess.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All the time.
	Okay, wow, all right.
	Super awesome to me.
	I feel like I got the reverse.
	I'm too uneducated on this topic.
	Sometimes I feel like I got the reverse problem like a thing.
	Okay, whatever.
	Not always, though.
	Sometimes, I don't know.
	Sometimes, you know, whatever.
	Is it a deal breaker, going off of what Mandy over here said, if he doesn't go down on you?
	Oh, no, yeah, for sure.
	Deal breaker.
	Yeah.
	Rip.
	All right.
	RFP's in the chat.
	It's not going to work out between me and Cece.
	Unfortunately, I do not, I'm not a munch.
	I do not do that.
	Are you real?
	Everybody loves something new about Texas.
	For real.
	Brian doesn't do that.
	He has a very little fear of time to ban club.
	That's facts.
	That's facts.
	I'm scared.
	I'm kind of scared.
	I'm a little frightened.
	Apparently, there's, was it Michael Douglas?
	He got throat cancer from eating pussy.
	Yeah.
	He got throat cancer from he ate some pussy, and that's how he got throat cancer.
	Wait, you need to choose.
	There's something in discharge that is not like the HP.
	It's like, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Eat a clean pussy then.
	Wipe yourself and then.
	No, you use some water.
	Like, take a shower.
	See, here's the thing, right?
	Wait.
	Oh, did we go around the table on the is it a deal breaker?
	Deal breaker for the guy doesn't go down on you?
	Maybe I'm just inexperienced, but no.
	Based.
	Okay, she's redeeming herself.
	No.
	For me, yes.
	Deal breaker.
	The guy doesn't eat pussy?
	No.
	No. The fifth.
	From what I know from reading the Bible, it says that once you're married, you give your body fully over to that person that you're with and vice versa.
	So I think that if it's something that I enjoy, that my husband should do that for me.
	So we'll find out, I guess.
	We will find out.
	Yeah.
	I know the expression that is like the higher love is, the lower kisses are.
	It's in both sides.
	Okay.
	Hold on, just what, you got something?
	Go ahead.
	Was gonna say that I don't know, you guys can disagree, agree with me, whatever you're, but I've heard from a lot of women that they can't come from penetration, so that's why they asked for head, and it feels very good.
	And just like you guys love head, we love head too.
	So oh, well, congratulations, because damn.
	Yeah, well, see, okay, so I'll give my take on this.
	I personally haven't gone down on a girl since the Bush administration.
	That's 2007.
	That's crazy.
	2008, maybe.
	Yeah, it's been a long time.
	Are you okay?
	It was a child.
	It took a long time.
	I wasn't children.
	I have not gone down on it.
	I did it a couple times.
	It wasn't my thing.
	Did they come?
	Of course they came.
	What are you talking about?
	Of course.
	They won't.
	Are you sure?
	Are you sure?
	Even though, even though I did it only a few times, I was an artiste.
	You see.
	I am an artist.
	I don't know about that.
	Artiste.
	In any case, it wasn't for me.
	Don't get me wrong, love pussy.
	Pussy's great.
	Just not my thing.
	However, it is my when it comes to female pleasure.
	It is also my view that I want to make my girl come first before me, preferably multiple times, if possible.
	And we can achieve this either through hands, sex, if possible.
	Sometimes, like you said, some women, it's difficult for them to come from sex.
	So we can employ hands.
	I go to town with hands.
	Hands are great.
	Got hands.
	All right, all right.
	Or toys.
	I'm okay with toys.
	Some guys are not okay with toys.
	I don't mind toys.
	Makes my job easier.
	Makes my job easier.
	And I want her to come before me.
	Is it okay for you if a girl have same vision on like doing something oral for you?
	If she has a wife.
	If she also had bad experiences or whatever, she doesn't give you a no.
	She doesn't.
	It's a little disappointing, but it's honestly, it's not a deal breaker.
	Like if a girl, some now, there's also the other component, though, of like it's a retributive, retributive, retributive revenge almost thing.
	Or a tit-for-tat thing.
	It's like, oh, well, if you won't do it, then I won't do it.
	Then that's a little, okay.
	Look, if she doesn't want to do it, of course, I'm not like if she doesn't want to do it, that's totally her call.
	But one, it's like, okay, she's doing it like out of revenge because I won't do it.
	I kind of feel that's kind of, I feel like there doesn't always have to be 100% reciprocity in every single action or behavior in the same way that she wants a guy to pay for the first date.
	She doesn't reciprocate by then paying for first dates.
	When it comes to sexual things, just because I want to fuck a girl in the ass doesn't mean she has to fuck me in the ass, you know?
	Of course.
	You know, it doesn't have to be exactly, you know.
	Yeah, but maybe you're a perfect match.
	You know, you're the same.
	Yeah, and there's I've encountered women who some women don't like getting head.
	They maybe whatever for whatever reason.
	It's not 100% a deal breaker, though, if she doesn't want to do it, but it's better if she does.
	It's better if she does.
	So word.
	Huh?
	Okay.
	Good talk.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, the bull rider.
	That's how we got derailed.
	You said he was a deadbeat bull rider.
	What made him a deadbeat, my dear?
	He, for example, he stole my credit card.
	Love at first sight.
	Spent like $600, got me in like deep credit, all of this stuff, said he was going to pay me back, never paid me back.
	Ooh, what is that?
	It's a back buddy, or it's a Theracane or something.
	It's for self-theracaine.
	Theracaine, it's for massage.
	Don't get weird with it.
	It's not like a sex.
	No, no, no, not you, her.
	It's not like a sex dude or something.
	Purely innocent.
	Gadget.
	The deadbeat.
	How was your deadbeat?
	Disappearing in the middle of the night to go see other women, bringing my dog to meet my old best friend to fuck her with my dog in the room while I was at home, at home sleeping.
	And I hope this woman is watching this because you know that I hate you.
	What do you want to say?
	Look into that camera right there.
	Kaya Staple.
	I hate you.
	Why her?
	If it was he?
	Because she knew it happened multiple times, and I reached out to her after we had gotten engaged.
	And she said, oh my God, I had no idea.
	I thought you guys were just dating.
	What difference, ma'am?
	What difference?
	Absolutely.
	Wait, so hold on just a sec.
	I thought he was like, because that kind of gangster.
	Like, if your girlfriend has a dog and you use that dog to like get other chicks, that's kind of gangster.
	My dog is now a trained protection dog because of that situation.
	So she is like solely my dog.
	And I have trained her to, like, she never is apart from me, really.
	Right now she's with my mother because she trusts my mother, but I will just be like, yeah, attack.
	So you would take the dog.
	But did he like use the dog to try to like impress like, oh, check out my dog because we like dogs, right?
	Yes.
	I see.
	And he took it, he took it in the middle of the night.
	We weren't living together at this time.
	He came into my house, took my dog, and went and saw another woman.
	Oh, shit.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Times.
	Yeah.
	Times.
	So you said he stole your, was it your credit card?
	Yes.
	And he, how much did he charge on the credit card?
	Between $500 and $600.
	Nice.
	Good times.
	When I was 18.
	Like, freshly 18, had no idea about that shit.
	That's awesome.
	That's awesome.
	He was a deadbeat.
	What else?
	He was very like victimizing and manipulative.
	So anything didn't go his way.
	And it was like, I'm going to delete myself.
	Okay, that's a yikes.
	Yeah.
	And it was immediately going to that and then turning it around on me when I would keep in mind, I was like madly in love with this kid.
	You know what I mean?
	I would break down doors because he would post a picture of, you know, like, I'm going to delete myself.
	And so I would come to his house and literally break down a door.
	And then it would just be like, it's your fault.
	It's from what you said.
	It's from what you did.
	When it could be from anything as little as I went to work and I didn't text him for two hours.
	He would show up at my work if I did not speak to him.
	He would go up to my coworkers asking if I had a work boyfriend, like just very, like things like that.
	Very, very odd.
	Damn, that's fucked up.
	Now, was he like the threats of self-deletion?
	Was that like a manipulation tool or was it like serious?
	Because some people would use that.
	I think there was one time that it was serious.
	I think there was one time where it was very serious, but I think most of the times it really wasn't.
	It would be like he would make a story that had the same name as his main story, but he'd only add me to it.
	So I was the only person that could see that he was posting that he was going to, you know, delete himself.
	And then I would come give him the attention that he wanted.
	And it was totally okay.
	Like, I mean, I would even go as far as to, he would go as far as to be, I would say, I don't want to have sex tonight.
	I've had a really long day.
	You know, I just want to go to sleep.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you don't do that, I'm going to go tonight and go delete myself, or I'm going to go tonight and go find another woman.
	Like, things like that.
	And I would like sit there and be like, what?
	Yikes.
	It's yikes.
	It's yikes.
	The man that I have now is amazing, though.
	He's nothing like that.
	Got a chat here.
	Nine line.
	Also, red button up.
	I'm so glad females like you exist.
	No offense to any of you other beautiful women.
	Yeah.
	You.
	I exist.
	Fuck yeah.
	My mom gave birth to me.
	Let's go.
	LFG.
	Okay.
	Shrimp Scampy donated 69.
	Hey, thank you, man.
	Oh, did it get skipped?
	That's weird.
	Grow up, take care of your lady if you busted too early.
	Also, it's quality.
	It's 100% skill.
	When you master it, I promise you won't be forgettable.
	Eating right.
	Yes.
	I think it's towards you.
	I think that's for you.
	It is towards me.
	I take care of my lady in other ways.
	I take care of her in other ways.
	The spidey fingers.
	The peen.
	You gotta eat it.
	You gotta eat it.
	Eat it.
	You know what?
	If she's a bad person.
	Eat that pussy.
	Maybe if she was a virgin.
	Maybe if she was a virgin.
	What?
	That's Brian.
	Are you a virgin?
	No.
	And you're going to stick your dick in somebody else and have to eat their pussy?
	What do you mean?
	Totally different crazy.
	Totally different from what you do.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	But you stick your dick in women and we have to suck your dick?
	Exactly.
	That's exactly what you have to do.
	No.
	Thank you.
	Copy.
	Yes.
	That's exactly.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I will not deny it.
	Good talk.
	Crazy.
	Crazy.
	Okay, we have Jake Larson, longtime listener, first time as Brian's splendid daddy.
	Oh, would the last date a man Witten's gun?
	There's another one that he commented saying that it was botched, and he said that he was asking if a woman would date a man who owns a gun.
	Okay, yeah, we'll go around the table on this really quick.
	Starting with you, would you date a guy who owns a gun?
	Yeah, as long as you're not crazy.
	Okay.
	True.
	Yeah, like what she said.
	As long as you're not crazy.
	As long as it's licensed and it's put away from any like whole, like anyone like that is younger or not, you know, okay in a head.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	It just has to be hidden and put away.
	Does your husband, does he own a gun or?
	My husband doesn't.
	My former fiancé who is the father of my child, he does.
	Gotcha.
	What about you?
	I don't know.
	I'm not familiar with this culture too much.
	So probably for me, it would be time to adjust would be needed to see how it is because if he would be seated next to me with a gun constantly, I don't know.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	I am a gun owner, so yes.
	Oh, there you have it.
	I am also a gun owner, so yes.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah, my family owns guns, but.
	There you have it, Jake Larson.
	We have Zach Jenkins here.
	Jana, I'm 38, a former Marine and blue-collar man.
	Will you marry me?
	Propose to me.
	And kunos, maybe.
	Okay.
	He paid $100 to propose to you right now.
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, that is a pretty good.
	I will.
	I am Zach Jenkins.
	I'm his proxy.
	I am his agent.
	On behalf of the.
	Then you need to arrange the proper ceremony to us, you know, and to give us.
	Will you marry Zach Jenkins?
	Of course.
	Can we have at least a coffee together?
	At least.
	Let's start with a coffee.
	We have LPE here coming in hot.
	Whoa, even tomboys like red button top love toxic fuckboys.
	Regular nice guys have no chance.
	Hashtag Zad.
	My boyfriend is a nice guy, and he's shorter than me.
	So yeah, they do.
	Period.
	Loose pussy energy.
	Coming after all the red bitches, aren't you?
	Yeah, he has.
	You just mad.
	You big mad.
	He's had it out for the women in the red tonight.
	Let's see.
	Wait, how tall are you and how tall is your boyfriend right now?
	I am 5'8", and he's only like an inch or two shorter than me.
	Cool.
	But I can't, like, when I wear it, when I put my boots on for work, if he hasn't put on his boots yet, it's like a.
	It's like a.
	Well, speaking of that, we should go around on the height question.
	So how tall are you?
	And do you have like a bare minimum height?
	Do you have a height preference?
	You know, sometimes we often hear six feet and above.
	So what's your height?
	Do you have a height preference?
	Go ahead.
	I'm 4'11.
	And as long as they're taller than me, which they should be.
	So like 5 feet?
	5' Like 5'2 and above.
	Okay, well, that's generous.
	You said how many boyfriends would you say you've had?
	Just like in general or a short boyfriend?
	No, just boyfriends.
	I've had like three.
	And three boyfriends.
	How tall were your three boyfriends?
	Usually like 5'10, 6 feet.
	I've had a shorter boyfriend that was like 5'3, 5'4.
	One of them was 5'0.
	Okay.
	Yeah, one was shorter.
	What about you?
	High preference?
	Yeah.
	How tall are you in height preference?
	I'm 5'6.
	And as long as I feel like he's taller than me in heels, or at least the same height as me in heels.
	Yeah, can you scoot your microphone to the very edge of the table?
	Thank you.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'7.
	And no, I don't have a height preference.
	Okay.
	How tall is your current guy, Ting?
	Oh, I think we're about the same height.
	It might be like an inch shorter because I know I get that, like those moments where I'm laying in bed with him and my feet are past his feet.
	Tall bitches now.
	I don't know.
	But yeah, it's nice.
	What about you?
	I'm 5'9.
	My husband's slightly taller than me, but really the height doesn't really matter.
	Sure.
	What about you?
	Doesn't really matter.
	I'm 5'5 and like 5'5 is also fine or taller.
	Okay, what about what about you?
	I am 5'4 and I prefer a guy between 5'6 and 5'9.
	Okay.
	I am 5'8 and I've never dated a man shorter than me until my relationship now, but it's definitely shown me that short kings are pretty cool.
	So no, no matter anymore.
	There you have it.
	I'm 5'8 ⁇ .
	I'm 5'8 and yeah, I prefer someone who's taller than me, but my dad's a short king and he's the best man I've ever met in my life.
	So my dad's 5'5 ⁇ .
	Is he shorter than you?
	Yeah.
	My dad's 5'5 and my mom's 5'8.
	So.
	There you have it, folks.
	There you have it.
	Let me get through some of my other notes here.
	We have, I finally want to get to, let's see, hold up.
	We've done that, done that.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	Bringing it back to Nicole Yikes.
	Young women should be aware of power dynamics and intentions when getting involved with men.
	So what do you mean by that?
	What do you mean by power dynamics?
	I guess it's just like more of like naivety in young women and like they can be coerced or like persuaded into situations that at first may appear okay, But then like, later on like, looking back, like it cannot be.
	Yeah sorry sorry, but yeah, just um, be careful of like, the men trying to play play, you know on so.
	But so when you say power dynamics, what are you talking about?
	Um like yeah, I say I want a provider, but then also people who have like the money and stuff will use that as an advantage to try to like manipulate or coerce or, you know, prey upon naivety with young women, like what I have couldn't, couldn't I just reverse this?
	And women are actually preying on men with money and using them for their money.
	Couldn't I just reverse that?
	You could say that?
	Okay.
	Also, I would argue that I think women are much more socially attuned than men are generally, especially even like I think socially, women are far more competent than men are, especially like you take the average like 20 year old woman.
	Compare her to the average 20 year old man.
	She's probably had a lot more experience when it comes to dating.
	I'd say most, not all women, but most women can absolutely run circles around men uh, socially.
	So we can also take it from like I think women have a lot of power.
	That is oftentimes overlooked in a lot of ways okay okay, um.
	But it's interesting though, that you say that there's this power dynamic of men with money, but you also want a guy to be a provider.
	Like you said, that's your type as a provider guy.
	So on one hand, you view it as you want a provider, but you also seem to in consider that an unfair power dynamic.
	So how do you reconcile wanting a man with money who can be a provider?
	But so you are you saying you want an unfair power dynamic?
	I'm a little confused.
	Just intentionality, what does that mean?
	Like it depends on what the guy's intentions are, whether okay, like if he's like not going to follow through or, like you know, follow the power dynamic of like I have this power and like oh, you fell for this facade, and then just like, Yeah, like that happens to young women all the time.
	Oh, okay.
	I think I so you you mean like a guy who maybe puts on an act like he's got money like the guy from you I'm not sure what how he puts up that facade and then he kills women.
	What the fuck extreme yeah Wait, so you're saying there are scenarios where men and I I don't think you're wrong where men will like flex on Instagram.
	Oh look at my watch look at my fucking supercar, but actually that's a rental Actually they're not that maybe they even lie about their job.
	Are you kind of talking about that?
	Like men who claim or or men who say well down the road I will provide but never end up providing what do you mean?
	Get this girl another energy drink.
	Yes, please.
	Like I said like the intentionality and if you're not like coercion happens a lot for like young women or it can and I think young women specifically like with the whole like sugar baby thing going on you know trying to influence women to I don't know I just think it's like a kind of I just want to you said the word coercion a couple times I just and I pulled up the definition because I just want to be super sure that we're talking about the same thing here.
	So coercion the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.
	When you use the word coercion, is that what you're talking about?
	I just want to be very precise in the conversation we're having.
	That might not be the intent of the male, but that does come, that does tend to happen sometimes.
	So you're talk within the context of the guy being a high earner or being a provider.
	How do you see a guy coercing a woman within this context?
	Just preying on young, naive women, really.
	How so?
	How so?
	How are the men preying on women?
	Oh, like, yeah, like, let's go on a date.
	Like, oh, like, let's build a relationship and then just not following through.
	And I mean, that's perfectly fine to choose not to have a relationship with someone.
	I understand that.
	Is that preying on a woman?
	No, that's not what I meant.
	I meant like more so like let's go on a trip and then you're stuck and like it's like whatever.
	Wait, what do you mean go on a trip and then you're stuck?
	Never mind.
	No, no, no.
	You can't talk about it anymore.
	Not you're okay.
	You provided these pre-show notes to us in our thing.
	Like why?
	This is the whole purpose of a conversation.
	I think intentionality is important.
	Yeah, you already said that, but I'm asking, you mentioned the trip thing.
	Look, you mentioned the trip thing.
	These are words that came out of your mouth.
	Yeah.
	I'm just trying to understand your position.
	That's why I'm asking clarifying questions.
	Men can portray themselves as something they're not, and then when you are with them, they can reveal true colors.
	Like abuse.
	Yeah, abusive.
	You gotta like talk to the microphone.
	Okay, that's it.
	Go ahead.
	Probably she means abusive behavior.
	You know, when manipulators pretty much have a lot of people.
	Seaberg donated $100.
	So are you women only able to be manipulated or coerced by a potential partner?
	Or is it possible you that a narrative, perhaps feminism, could have manipulated you?
	That's a good one.
	And to add to Seaberg, also men can be coerced and manipulated by women.
	Like, this isn't just a gender, one-directional, unidirectional thing where it's just all men are just doing this to women.
	I think both men and women can be toxic and doing these toxic things.
	But I'm trying to get at the crux of you seem to be framing this from young women should be aware of power dynamics and intentions when getting involved with men.
	Yeah, and I think that's not like all cases.
	Like, there's just, like, extreme cases, but that's probably more of a rarity, and that was just, like...
	Okay.
	I didn't really mean to go too in depth on that topic, but it was just like something.
	Yeah, but okay, so you're saying like guys not trying to remember precisely what you said, like guys not being saying they'll be providers but not actually being providers?
	Kind of?
	No, that's not really what I'm referring to because that's like obviously a choice and like communication is like a huge thing.
	But I'm more referring to like specifically targeting young women and manipulating them.
	How how you know I know what she's meaning.
	No, no, no, no.
	Let her answer.
	Go ahead.
	Maybe just like sex trafficking, for example?
	Sex trafficking.
	Well, I abhor grid one motorsports donated $100.
	Fuck's sake, sugar babies are literally women using men for theo wallets, often promising sex with no intention of having it.
	Honestly, poets, university has failed you.
	Please get out of CA and learn.
	Do you want to respond to Grid One Motorsports?
	Intentionality.
	Intentionality.
	Okay.
	So, just to respond to your thing, obviously, sex trafficking is terrible.
	I don't think, in general dating dynamics, sex trafficking is, I don't know what the frequency of sex trafficking is.
	That's a very outlier situation.
	But this seems like a more generalized statement you have here.
	Young women should be aware of power dynamics and intentions when getting involved with men.
	Also, just like the sketchy situations they can end up in, basically, to be aware of.
	Okay.
	But you said, so men trying to manipulate young women.
	How are men manipulating?
	Selling dreams.
	Selling dreams?
	Selling dreams.
	So like, what would be an example of selling the dream?
	Coercion.
	Coer.
	Okay, but you can't.
	Like making fast promises.
	Like, oh, if you do this, I'm going to fulfill this for you and this and this, and then not following through.
	That sounds like every relationship in the history of humanity to some degree, but.
	That's fine.
	But don't specifically target.
	But so give me an example.
	Give me an example of that.
	Give me an example of that.
	So saying you'll do something but not following through.
	Because I would argue that like most relationships, like, for example, in a relationship, in a lot of relationships, people probably say, I will love you forever, right?
	Now, that's not a legally binding.
	That's not legally binding to say you'll love somebody forever.
	Because clearly people say that and they break up.
	Implicit underscore in underscore her underscore statement donated $100.
	Is that if a WMN has sex W slash MN, he owes her a lifetime of resources.
	It's her slavery shit.
	Power dynamic and coercion is code talk for if I fucked him, he owes me money.
	If not, he tricked me.
	Wow, that could be the nail on the head.
	I don't know, but you seem to disagree with this.
	That's why I'm trying to ask questions.
	So you said it was selling the dream.
	So like how?
	I'm just kind of dumb with this conversation.
	What I'm not.
	Why are you done with the conversation?
	I'm literally, like, you're sitting there back there bored when I'm not talking to you, but when I am talking to you, I'm done with that.
	And I've kind of already explained it, like, intentionality, like.
	Okay, but so what is an example of selling the dream?
	Like, if you do this, this, and this, you'll be fulfilled.
	Like, like, um, like, they're gonna tell you up front, like, my intention with you, if you fulfilled this, then you're going to get this, this, this, and this, and, like, and then not follow through.
	And that's, like, obviously, like, the building of a relationship, like, that's fine, but to pray, like, go ahead, finish your sentence.
	Go ahead.
	Finish your sentence.
	Go ahead.
	You were literally in the middle of a sentence and you stopped your sentence.
	Go ahead.
	I need another energy drink.
	Oh, my God.
	Okay.
	Here, let me ask you a question.
	Oh, look, boom.
	He's got the fucking.
	He's got the hookup.
	Boom.
	There it is.
	Okay.
	You guys sharing the energy drink?
	No, I'm just hoping.
	I think it's for you.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Selling the dream.
	Oh, my God.
	I have a question.
	Go ahead.
	Then I'll come back to her.
	It's more a question for you.
	I was going to ask, are you mostly talking about just like how it is very common where older men go after younger women because they're easily manipulated?
	We're very young.
	We're very erroneous.
	I don't think that's why younger men go, or excuse me, I don't think that's why younger, or excuse me, older men go for younger women.
	Could it conceivably be that younger women are more physically attractive?
	Brian, I'm afraid the girl in black has genital herpes and it's affecting her ability to communicate.
	We're going to have to send in the nukes, otherwise the plague might spread beyond California.
	That's crazy.
	Jay Butler is our, he's a resident troll.
	He's a, he, every single show he brings up herpes.
	So do not be offended.
	What's the, what's the name?
	Jay Butler.
	Jay Butler.
	He, every single show, he, at the end of the show, he's got to bring herpes.
	Butler sounds like one of those dudes that like lives in the desert and like caps to the freaking whatever podcasts and sends money because he's so bored.
	He's a urologist.
	He's a urologist.
	Well, go to work.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	We should have just put Andrew Tate over your bathing suit picture.
	That would have been perfect.
	Just Andrew State face right there.
	Sure.
	Okay, so.
	Don't was kind of just like my point.
	It's like, I know, like, it's happened to a lot of women in myself included.
	I was very easily manipulated when I was younger, and I dated a guy who is like 23, 24, and he was just.
	Wait, how old were you and how old was he?
	I was like 19, 18.
	And how old was he?
	He was like 23, 24.
	I don't object to that age.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm not saying like those age ranges are bad as long as you're legal.
	Shit, do it.
	Do it.
	Whatever you want.
	That's my position.
	At that age, growing up, before you turn 21, we don't know anything.
	I still don't.
	I'm 23 and I'm still learning so many things.
	I'm still setting up boundaries.
	I'm still thinking my morals.
	But it's like at that young age and at, you know, mainly.
	Do women mature faster than men?
	Like most women, even out of their own mouths, will say, oh, these young men, my own age, are immature.
	They're all just fuckboys.
	I guess I could say I thought that at that age, I was very like 90.
	Boys, my age are so immature.
	I was very mature.
	It goes both ways, I feel like.
	Okay, then yeah, I can, we can actually.
	Well, There's a I mean I but I just want to, because you said that it's men are older, men want to be with younger women because they're easier to manipulate.
	I object to that because I feel like we, a lot of people, always want to pathologize men's preferences, standards and boundaries.
	If a man has a preference standard to boundary, it's somehow.
	It's either criminal, it's controlling, it's insecure, it's some sort of negative thing nobody bats an eye for when a woman articulates her preferences, standards and boundaries, but when a man does, it's almost always like oh again, it's gonna be pathologized to the point of criminality.
	Like oh, you must be.
	If you're a 24 year old guy and you date a 19 year old, you're basically a P word like, come on, that's ridiculous, but it's also just, like it's just.
	But I can give you, I'm gonna give you.
	I have a list here.
	I'll give you some reasons why perhaps a an older man might want to date a younger woman.
	And keep in mind we're talking about adult women here.
	Okay, more physically attractive, more emotionally available, more romantic, more energy and optimistic about the future, more time to to live life, travel the world before starting a family more fertile, less baggage and trauma from past relationships, more open to new ideas, less stuck in their ways, stuck in the job city, more agreeable, easier to build a life with, more grateful and easily satisfied, less likelihood of having children,
	or a psycho ex younger parents who could be involved more in raising the children.
	And then yeah, that's pretty much it.
	There's perhaps some more, but oh and no kids.
	No kids, usually if they're young.
	Yeah, typically no kids.
	So, and that's a preference, I think, both men and women like if you're a girl, you don't want to date a guy who's got kids, that's totally valid.
	The reverse is also valid too.
	So well, how?
	So I think, just going back to you, how is it?
	I'm trying to remember the exact thread.
	How is it?
	Stochastic Decay, donated $99.
	Oh this, I was gonna say this, dude, yes makeup yes, cosmetic surgery, push-up bras, shaping attire, selling a dream?
	Yes, want a hundred percent, like you say, that these men sell a dream.
	But you guys sell a dream with your beauty.
	You guys use, like he said, makeup filters.
	You'll do all kinds of cosmetic surgeries.
	You are.
	If, if we can agree that men's primary attraction trigger is your physical beauty, then if you're wearing makeup and doing all those things that he listed, you are basically selling a dream.
	Have you had any cosmetic surgery?
	Um, that's a yes.
	What do you?
	What lip filler?
	You've had the, the titties done okay, isn't that selling the dream?
	You don't actually feel confident, like i'm picky, like I don't care, like that's just a personal preference.
	What's a personal preference for myself to have fake titties?
	I think they look good, like it's fine.
	You don't want to hear my take on plastic surgery but um anyways anyway, but don't what?
	But okay, you're talking about men sell the dream.
	But women Yeah, I see how you're doing.
	You guys lie about your beauty.
	Well, I'm wearing what?
	Like, that's the thing.
	Of course you are.
	You wear makeup.
	Maybe you use filters.
	Maybe you've had other cosmetic procedures.
	Lip filler?
	No.
	The lip filler?
	In the past, I've tried it once, but no, that goes away.
	I thought it lingers for a little bit.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Lip filler, makeup, filters, Photoshop, all these things.
	Good light.
	Well, good lighting is kind of valid, whatever.
	But posing, specific poses.
	Couldn't you argue that this is selling men the dream?
	Yeah, you can argue that.
	That's fine.
	Oh, okay.
	You know what?
	We should ban makeup.
	That's fine.
	I like myself natural too.
	Okay, based.
	Okay, so okay.
	Here, you also said the whole sugar daddy thing often leaves a lot of women traumatized.
	Is that kind of what you were getting into?
	Oh, hold on.
	Grid one motorsports donated $100.
	The copium is strong.
	Ignore the fact that women lie makeup/slash surgery slash etc.
	And intentionally promise sex and love to sell men a dream they know they will never deliver.
	Stop lying to yourself.
	That's facts.
	It's facts, grid one, motorsports.
	raceway so then i think i have a question um about like kind of this topic because i feel you know i i have the bikini picture with my boyfriend on my instagram i have I have like the picture that my boyfriend took of me and wanted me to show off, you know.
	But how I guess, how would I put this?
	Because I met my boyfriend wearing what I'm wearing now.
	And I would not consider what I'm wearing now like very provocative.
	You know, the only thing I've got on my face is mascara and it's from yesterday.
	Just like things like that.
	Yeah.
	What, I guess my question is, what do men find attractive about that?
	Because say like my boyfriend, he, it's not a, oh, I don't want you to wear that because, you know, you're showing off your body.
	It's always like a you can wear that because I can fight, you know, type mentality.
	But for me, I'm just, this is what I'm comfortable in, and he's okay with it.
	But I still get that, you know, those people that will look or those people that will make comments.
	And then it's, you know, then people will make the joke, oh, are you into boys?
	Because, you know, you're looking at her and she's fully clothed.
	But then it goes back to the, well, don't are men more attracted to traditional women?
	Because I'm not saying that I'm necessarily traditional.
	You know, I've got tattoos all over my body.
	It's very, you know, they're out there.
	People can see them.
	But I do cover myself up.
	I wear long sleeves most of the time.
	I'm very fond of pearl snaps, cowboy hats, wearing hats.
	So then what would make that more desirable for a man based on, like, say, your bikini picture?
	You know what I mean?
	Like, it's just very, it's a very so.
	What is the question exactly like?
	What would make that more desirable and get better attention?
	Better attention.
	Yes.
	So say on her photo, maybe someone like posted was like, damn, you're so fucking hot.
	I'll wear this and I'll have people tell me I'm fucking hot.
	Is that just a different?
	I don't know.
	I just, that part of it, that aspect, I don't understand.
	How can we both get that same attention, potentially even from the same type of men or the same men?
	But then, like, I'm also, you know, but then I'm told that I look like a boy, and then she's told that she, you know what I mean, is too provocative.
	I feel like that goes into preference again, you know?
	Like it's just a personal preference.
	Is this a statement or a question?
	No, that was a question.
	What's the difference between us?
	What would make, you know, like she said, you probably are right.
	It probably is preference.
	What would make me more desirable over her?
	What would make her more desirable over me?
	I mean, it's kind of hard to say, but I would some men are totally fine with their girl having provocative or super revealing photos on Instagram.
	There's a lot of simps out there that I think also a lot of men don't realize that they're allowed to have preferences, standards, and boundaries.
	Like I remember, at least for me, when I was younger, it never occurred to me, because I feel like, and I got over this fairly quickly, but to some degree when I was younger, you know, I think a lot of men have this temptation to want to pedestalize women.
	And we, and because dating tends to be harder for men, because it's hard, because we don't get, generally speaking, most men don't, women don't initiate on men.
	Men have to have the burden of initiation.
	We don't get that sort of attention from women.
	So, you know, if you don't have, at least when you're young, like a lot of options, you don't, you're not in a very strong negotiating position to be like, I don't want my girl to be, you know,
	if you don't have optionality as a guy, it's going to be very hard, well, not necessarily, but it's going to be harder for you to be able to dictate certain terms in the relationship and to be able to really reinforce standards, preferences, and boundaries.
	Now, of course, there are men who are like very laser focused on precisely what they want and they're not going to like play around with other chicks and they're just like, okay, I know exactly what I want.
	But I do think a lot of men feel like out of necessity, they have to accept certain behavior that they otherwise wouldn't because to some degree, beggars can't be choosers.
	But look, there's, but I do think men have been suppressed because of feminism to kind of do away with demanding modesty from women.
	Because if we do, most men cannot be open and honest with the current social climate.
	Because if we do, we're going to be met with you're a misogynist, you're controlling, you're insecure, blah, blah, blah.
	You're sexist, whatever it's going to be.
	In the current social climate, if we do articulate, hmm, I'd prefer my girl to not be posting revealing photos on Instagram.
	Oh, well, you're just insecure.
	You're controlling.
	You don't get to say what I get to wear, blah, blah, blah.
	It's going to be, so a lot of men aren't going to be open and honest about these preferences.
	So yeah.
	But I do want to get back to you with the sugar daddy thing.
	And we'll go around the whole table on this.
	So you said that, let's see.
	Oh, okay.
	The whole sugar daddy thing often leaves a lot of women traumatized.
	I was going to ask how so.
	I don't know.
	I guess that depends on like, no, I guess.
	Have you had your own experience?
	I don't want to talk about that, but I just think there's been some documentaries recently that have come out that kind of sugar babies, sugar daddy.
	Not necessarily that, but like, like I said, like me telling people that you're not going to be able to be like, okay.
	So which documentary are you referring?
	The Tinder Swindler?
	Is that what you're referring to?
	Oh, no.
	I don't know about that one, but.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	You can do research, but.
	Okay.
	Well, I don't have time to do it right now, so that's why I'm leaning on you to try to assist here.
	Just young women can fall prey, like fall victim to being naive, like I've mentioned before.
	I don't really want to take this subject.
	That's zero accountability.
	You're taking a lot of time to themselves get in that situation, but that's what I mean, like coercion.
	And like, so I'm done having this conversation, and I would like to move on.
	Okay, you literally provided this as a pre-show.
	We've been talking about this for so long.
	We have not talked about sugar daddy.
	This is literally, I just brought it up.
	Okay.
	And look, this is my podcast.
	I'm going to, if you, like, refuse to answer questions, I suppose you can, but you're not going to dictate the pace and the discussion of this podcast.
	If you don't want to answer, I obviously can't force you to answer, but please don't tell me about us moving on because I'm going to, if, look, again, you just not going to answer questions.
	That's fine.
	So, okay, can you at least tell me what the documentary is?
	It's about sugar daddies.
	No, not necessarily, but like Surviving R. Kelly, like stuff like that.
	What's that have to do with sugar daddies?
	Okay.
	That has nothing to do with sugar daddies.
	You said the whole sugar daddy thing often leaves, you're like going off into the weeds here in this conversation, often leaves a lot of women traumatized.
	I'm asking how so, because there's plenty, perhaps it might be the case, but you're taking agency and accountability away from women.
	Plenty of women join seeking arrangements, and they're like, they're actively, it's not like they fall upon a sugar daddy.
	They will join seeking to find sugar daddies.
	And it sounds like perhaps that was it, you refused to say whether you had a sugar daddy or not, but I'm just saying the table for you to talk about sugar daddies.
	It seems like a pretty tame conversation.
	I would just caution young women to be careful of the situations they get themselves in.
	That's like all I would like to say.
	Were you coerced into a sugar daddy situation?
	I don't want to talk about that.
	I've already said that.
	I mean, how long were you in it?
	I don't want to talk about that.
	And no, it wasn't like I was ever looking for that specific.
	I mean, it's going to be very hard to caution young women to avoid these situations if you're not willing to be forthcoming with your own experience.
	But okay, fine.
	You had a sugar daddy situation.
	That's what I mean, like the coercion part.
	Like you could have intention for one thing and then they might, and you like say that, and that's what I mean.
	Like they'll guise it like a facade.
	Can you be a bit more specific?
	No.
	I'll just leave it at that.
	These men have good intentions.
	Like I don't want to get personal.
	Like I don't.
	Then why did you put it in the question?
	Yeah, I feel like it's just very contradicting.
	The topic of like you keep scooting your microphone.
	Please scoot to the edge of the table.
	I'm going to tell women to be cautious.
	Like be protected.
	Like be cautious.
	Yeah, but I'm trying to hear.
	Why?
	I'm trying to hear you out.
	I'm trying to hear about your sugar daddy story.
	Or perhaps this could be an example for young women why they should not get involved in these sugar daddy dynamics.
	You can watch documentaries like Surviving R. Kelly or Jeffrey Epstein, too.
	These were not, these are such outlier situations.
	Very, well, when I think of a sugar daddy, when I think of a sugar daddy, it's some dude who's like, I'll pay you 400 bucks for some pizza.
	And who gets a lot of success?
	I'm not thinking like fucking R. Kelly's Epstein shit.
	Be careful.
	Like, that's all I'm saying.
	I'm not saying, like, it's like a.
	Were you on the island?
	Did you go to the islands?
	I'm not going to talk about it.
	No one's going to be.
	Did you go to the island?
	No, I'm not going to talk about that.
	No.
	So you were on the island.
	I'm not going to talk about that.
	She was on the island.
	All right, whatever, bro.
	Okay, what about?
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	I haven't, no.
	You haven't?
	Come on.
	There's been a guy who sent you 400 bucks for feet pics or some shit.
	I mean, I've had guys send me money for like lunch.
	Is this a rage quit?
	Is it a rage quit?
	You coming back or?
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	All my subbies are my sugar daddies.
	I need subbies.
	All right.
	I like just want to follow you now on the holy band.
	I'll give you a free set.
	Oh, no, it's free.
	It's free.
	Yeah, we'll do it in a sec here.
	Sugar daddy, ever had a sugar daddy going around the table?
	Have you had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	No.
	I've been offered money for feet pics, but no.
	Really quick on this, we have DG.
	What role does technology play in your matchmaking service, and how do you ensure personal touch is still present?
	Where is that question?
	I just read it.
	I'm sorry, I just can you read it again, please?
	What role does technology play in your matchmaking service?
	And how do you ensure personal touch is still present?
	Oh, it's actually, yeah, a combination.
	Like, we have platforms for people to meet, like virtual speed dating, for example.
	It's our platform of our service.
	But all of the aspects of relationships development, they are done by the matchmakers, by the coaches, because just meeting someone is not going to get you to the successful relationship.
	That's where people get it really confused.
	Like, I'm going to meet my ideal person.
	Just meeting someone is not going to get you to the ideal relationship.
	But all of the components of coaching, adjusting yourself, couples counseling, you know, kind of unpeeling yourself like a cabbage, opening up your heart and soul and connecting on a deeper level.
	That's what is going to get you to the successful relationship.
	Something that we will be working with Brian.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Okay, we have Zach Jenkins here.
	Hold on.
	Wait, let me just read this before I pull it up.
	Message you on Instagram.
	Okay, fine.
	I'm out in Central Cali.
	You instantly caught my attention, not making the mistake, getting beat to the front of the line and miss a chance to get to know you.
	Messaged to you on Instagram.
	I think this is directed towards you.
	He's who proposed to you.
	He paid more money, yes.
	And it's this Zach Jenkins here, the 38 former Marian, this guy.
	Thank you, Zach.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you, Zach.
	All right.
	Okay.
	I had more questions for her.
	I have a few more notes here, but let me bring it to, let's see.
	Oh, I really wanted to get into this here.
	Let me see here.
	Oksana, the story of Irena and Sean.
	Do you want to share that?
	I have it written down here, but if you want to, yeah, so it is one of my couples.
	And so they met at my love tour.
	So it is in-person events that I put together.
	So she flew all the way from Ukraine.
	He is a former police officer and a firefighter.
	So right from the start, I knew this they should be together.
	It was like ideal couple.
	But Irina, she felt different.
	And so, but he is a very typical traditional man and provider.
	And he got the goal and he went for it.
	So she went back to Ukraine.
	He started writing her letters.
	So she basically told him like there is probably no future, but he didn't quit.
	So he started writing her letters.
	Every day at, I can't remember, it's either 8 or 9 in the morning, Ukrainian time.
	She was getting a letter from him.
	With no answer.
	He was getting no answer.
	So for 25 days, every day, he was sending her a letter.
	And she was reading it.
	And then on a day 26, he just didn't write anything.
	And this is the first time he got the letter back.
	Where is my letter?
	And so he went to Ukraine.
	He proposed to her.
	They're married now.
	They're fantastic, wonderful couple.
	But just that aspect of someone not quitting when they really want something.
	Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
	I am spending this hundred to warn men of all ages to not get involved with women who use them for theater wallets and do not pay of models.
	And Epstein did not kill himself.
	Okay.
	Thank you, Grid One Motorsports.
	Thank you.
	Yes, that can certainly be a red flag if somebody was involved in sugaring or whatnot.
	So move what?
	I'm confused by the last part.
	Continue with your story, Irina and Sean.
	Yeah, I mean, it's just talking about the man who just didn't quit and still was going after someone he felt connection with.
	Yeah, and so okay, you kind of already told it, but basically they met at one of your events, your love tour.
	He was really into her, she wasn't really into him.
	Well, there was lots of things that they would have, not lots, several things that they would have to work through in order for their relationship to be absolutely successful.
	Now, Irina is telling everyone that, you know, when Aksana tells you that is the one, you know, just listen to her.
	That kind of will make things easier.
	But in your pre-show notes here, you said that Sean was in love.
	She didn't feel so.
	She was visiting the USA.
	She went back to Ukraine without giving him a chance to develop a relationship.
	Sean, who's a traditional man, he started writing her letters at 9 a.m. every single day.
	She would receive them in Ukraine.
	Would receive a letter day after day, 25 days in a row, writing a full letter on the story.
	Redhead asked for talking points from her feminist professor, then forgot to study.
	Thank you, Nickelodeon.
	Appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So, okay, 26 days, there was, oh, she didn't answer.
	25 days in a row.
	She never answered him.
	Day number 26.
	When he stopped, he stopped.
	He didn't send her a letter.
	And she was checking her messages at 9 a.m., 9.15.
	That is the story they already told me later.
	Sure.
	And then she wrote back, where is my letter?
	Yep, where is my letter?
	Yep.
	Two months later, they were married and they have been married now for six happy years.
	Oh, no.
	And you say that's the most romantic story of a man who never gives up.
	Well, it is.
	I have lots of lots of stories.
	I mean, thousands of stories.
	It's just something that they are my neighbors.
	They live not far away from me, and I just were always, you know, communicating.
	And you also wrote, she's now saying this is the best man in the world, and this is the happiest marriage of hers because she had two marriages before that.
	I'm gonna, I gotta push back a little bit on this story.
	She clearly was not into him.
	I think that's almost stalker.
	It is not about not into him.
	There is things that they need to work through.
	She didn't respond.
	That's the difference of cultural differences.
	You know, we, Eastern European women, they have to be like heavily pursued.
	Disavow.
	Disavow.
	It might be true, but I'm very much against it.
	Well, yeah.
	Very much against it.
	This is where it is a little bit harder with American dating because here, men are waiting for the woman to give them a signal that it is okay, basically.
	No, I mean, for him to take that.
	Not necessarily, but like 25 fucking messages in a day without a response.
	Because see, that's coming into the territory.
	I think that's playing a game.
	Now, it is not a game.
	It's a game with the game.
	It's security, you know?
	Self-confidence.
	He wanted this lady.
	He took her.
	I think it, I mean, and this is happy marriage.
	It is five.
	It might have worked out, but I feel like it can, and I not to play the outlier card because I think this can, if this is the social feedback.
	Well, let me just finish.
	Let me just finish.
	If this is the social climate, the dating climate, I do think if like we are teaching, like, bro, if the girl's not into you, like, take a fucking hint, move on.
	It does kind of encourage stalking behavior, I think.
	That's not good for men.
	That's not good for women.
	Like, if a girl, if I, if I was not responding to a girl for 25 days and she incessantly continued.
	She didn't tell you no.
	She was just.
	There's more than one way to say no.
	Okay.
	Well, he was getting a certain feedback that.
	She wasn't responding.
	Yeah, but he was getting feedback from me from time to time.
	And that he was opening up.
	It would just take her a little bit.
	She didn't respond to.
	He would write full letters.
	She didn't respond for 25 days.
	If this couple would follow what you appreciated, they would not be together and they would not be happy.
	He might have found a woman who was more reciprocated.
	Oh, she is in love with him.
	Oh my God, this woman, she is like, you know, he is on the pedestal.
	She should have been in love with him from the get-go.
	Love?
	Maybe not love, but she should have at least reciprocated, shown some degree of interest.
	My personal view is like, oh, she did show him a degree of interest.
	Let me say this.
	If you play hard to get, you very quickly become hard to want.
	That's my view.
	If a girl is playing this hard to get bullshit, she was not playing hard to get.
	There were things that they would have to work through to build that happy reason.
	He sent her 25 letters and she did.
	Look, it's great for them that they're married and it worked for them.
	That's cool.
	However, speaking in generalities, I would argue that if you are dealing with whether you're a man or a woman and you're like doing all this shit and they're not even like they can't even give you a response, whether you're a man or a woman, move on.
	Because you can invest your time and energy so much better in somebody who will match and reciprocate and actually be.
	But she was a keeper for him.
	Hey, it worked out.
	You know what?
	There's outliers.
	Sometimes things can work out.
	Generally speaking, though, I would argue that it's much better to just, if somebody isn't giving you the same, like, you just move on.
	Your idea of general and my idea of general, I mean, I have a record of 30 years, I mean, to prove that my idea works, okay?
	Because couples that I do put together and happy.
	But like, it's such an L. Like, and I do hear these stories even in the West of like men who are like, yeah, she rejected me five times, and then, you know, she finally came around, and you know what's more, gangster?
	She fucking, maybe not loved, but she was so fucking into me immediately.
	That's way better than, oh, I had to convince her and she rejected me five times.
	And, oh, but I was persistent.
	Nah, I think persistent can, look, not always, but like, I think it's just, especially in the current social climate with women exposed, like, bro, persistence is gone.
	If she says, like, if a girl rejects you, it's over.
	It is done.
	There is no persistence.
	If you have to make the conclusions yourself without any help, I understand how frustrating that would be for you because you wouldn't know what's going on in her head.
	Now, in my situation, I'm the person who is helping the guys to understand what is going on in her head.
	Because they do share with me, woman to women connection number one is...
	Sean underscore from underscore LA donated $100.
	Asked my wife to go on a date.
	That's an L, dude.
	That's an L.
	She said maybe next year.
	Maybe in the L. Our first date was Jan 6th.
	We're married five years with two kids now.
	Sean, that's fantastic.
	Good for you.
	It worked.
	However, however, if you're fine with that, that's cool.
	I never want to be, my view is attraction cannot be negotiated.
	She either likes me or she doesn't.
	If she doesn't like me, goodbye.
	It is not about attraction.
	It is not about attraction.
	A girl who says maybe next year, if you ask her on a date in September, that's a very, in my view, that's demonstrating a very low level of interest.
	For me, I don't chase.
	It is not the words.
	It is the actions.
	So her actions maybe were completely different.
	Otherwise, he would not be reading her message that she wants him in her life.
	I don't know.
	Words is one thing.
	Actions is totally different.
	And especially in our culture, we look for actions.
	And I can't speak to how it is in, you said what, Slavic countries.
	My own advice for men, you don't chase low interest women.
	You never know if they're low interest or they just want actions, you know, to see that probably this guy wants you.
	I like you.
	Would you like to go on a date?
	No?
	Okay, goodbye.
	No, no, no.
	It doesn't.
	There is no, once a girl turns you down, look, maybe you can be like, you can say something witty.
	You know, if you ask her on a date, be like, you know, you can maybe make a joke, crack a joke, give it one other chance, maybe.
	But if a girl says no, like, okay, cool, you don't, I don't deal with low interest women.
	I don't play games like this.
	I don't want to play games with the girl.
	It depends on you.
	I like you.
	Do you like me?
	Cool.
	Let's fucking hang out.
	There is no, I'm not going to play this like.
	Why don't you ask the ladies if they would want to be like pursued by the man and quartered a lot of people?
	Any girl who's had a stalker will.
	It is why stalker.
	No, it's when it is normal guy, but he's showing with his actions that he is ready to If a guy is attractive enough for a girl to want to be for a girl to want that guy to be persistent She will already have deemed him attractive and want to date him.
	There will be no need for his persistence.
	That's my view.
	But you said you want to go around the table on this.
	Let's go around the table.
	If you tell a guy no, is it a, can he, I don't know how to frame the question.
	I think if he asks a few times, sure, but when it becomes more than that, it's kind of annoying.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm not going to knock persistence, but yeah, like she said, after like a few times, a no is a no, like get the hint.
	Otherwise, like communicate why it's a no, and then like if it's still a no, like leave it at that.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'm kind of on like both sides because I've had like stalkers and then I've had guys who are like super pornographers.
	No, but like that's what he was giving like, oh, that's stalker vibes.
	But like I've definitely had like an actual stalker and then I've had like guys who are super persistent and no matter how attractive they are, they could be like, they can break the charts.
	But I'm still probably going to be like, I don't know, maybe, maybe, I don't know.
	Look, it is some women like persistence.
	I just generally from a purely time-saving point of view, there's plenty of fishing to see.
	If she's not down for you, there's another woman who will be.
	It's not worth your time wasting.
	Like, I don't know.
	I try to come at it from an abundance perspective.
	I don't view women from a scarcity frame where I'm like, oh no, if it doesn't work with her, I don't believe in the one.
	I don't believe in any of that shit.
	Granted, there are some fantastic women out there that, you know, you should make a best effort at trying to get her.
	But if it's a no-go, goodbye.
	Peace.
	Peace out, dog.
	Hold on.
	I'll be like this.
	Hold up.
	I'll be like.
	Peace out.
	Peace out.
	You too, homie.
	You too, homie.
	But if she says one thing, but her actions speak different, like she's like, I don't like that either.
	I don't like that either, though.
	Because it takes actions from you.
	But you like low efforts, you know?
	You say I like high effort from women.
	That's how it should be.
	That it should be low effort.
	Come bow for me.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	That's how it works for you.
	Show me the bow.
	It's actually much harder to be the woman for the relationship than it is for a man to be a man for their relationship.
	What?
	I'm confused by that statement.
	The way women carry their relationship and the way they help their man to be like the best.
	Behind every successful man, there is a wise woman.
	Right?
	You heard that saying.
	Tim Cook is gay.
	saying you okay you take most of them just saying you take most of the guys Every successful wise woman.
	Gay man.
	Tim Cook.
	It is, okay, but in majority.
	I don't know where I'm going with that one.
	In majority.
	But for the woman to have that knowledge and energy to make her help men grow.
	I don't disagree with that.
	Carry the core for all of the kids to take care of the household.
	It is actually a lot of work for the woman, but it's well worth it.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I just, look, I don't like this game playing.
	If I like a girl and she likes Vegas, it should be easy.
	Brian, you're right.
	I do not give my time, money, or whatever else to somebody who won't or does not seem to want to make time for me.
	Period, paragraph, end of story.
	I'm too important for that.
	Because, look, again, there's definitely like in the couple scenarios, there's that guy who chimed in with the chat.
	Absolutely persistence, like, can it ultimately lead?
	Can the woman see you in a new light?
	Sure.
	But like, a lot of guys have also had the experience of we get a girl's number, we text her, and like, oh, are you free this Friday?
	And she's like, oh, I don't know.
	Maybe I'll let you know.
	And it's like that, first off, I would argue, and I think a lot of girls at this table would agree, because I think a lot of women are not going to be upfront about like just wanting to outright reject a guy.
	And there's a few ways that might manifest.
	For example, she might be interested in him, but she's also got a couple other options on the table.
	So she doesn't necessarily want to commit to him to go on that date or whatever.
	But it's certainly the case.
	Like, if a girl gives me the maybe, I don't know, we'll see.
	Ghosted, you're done.
	I'm not texting extremes.
	You're talking about the same thing.
	No, but that's not an extreme.
	It's not an extreme.
	It frequently happens to men that if you get a girl's number and you're like, hey, I'd love to meet you for dinner Friday, 7 p.m.
	She'll be like, oh, especially, I feel like older women are a bit more mature and they'll actually typically avoid giving you ambiguity.
	Not always the case.
	So I've actually encountered a lot of like professional women who are established in their career, late 20s, early 30s, who will give you this vague, ambiguous shit where you don't know where you stand.
	But definitely when I was in college, a lot of women be like, oh, I don't know.
	I got a test coming up.
	I'll let you know.
	And I'm like, I've made the mistake of following up.
	Oh, okay, well, what about next week?
	Maybe.
	It's like, bro, she's not interested.
	She's not interested.
	Goodbye.
	And say, okay, you have tests coming up.
	Can I help you with something?
	Can we study together?
	I mean, not about just.
	No, if a girl is, if a girl is really down for you, if she really likes you, she will make time for you.
	She will make time for you.
	A girl who says, maybe I'll let you know, goodbye.
	She was making time for him.
	She read every letter over and over and over.
	She didn't respond, though.
	She didn't respond.
	Yeah, but she was lost.
	She didn't lose the guy.
	All I'll say is this: all the time he spent on this one girl, he could have been pursuing other women, getting other leads.
	They are very happy together.
	Super happy.
	I see these like stories, these like marriage stories of like, oh, yeah, like they're doing the toasts or whatever at the, what's it called?
	The reception or whatever.
	And like, yeah, I didn't like him at first.
	That's such a fucking disrespectful, like, what about guys?
	Guys also said like this.
	Oh, I just wanted to date her, just I didn't consider her seriously.
	But then I fell in love with her.
	I saw how good she is or something.
	But firstly, initially, I just fucked her.
	Sorry, just like, right?
	Like, obviously, like, you know, just yeah, I've heard a lot of stories and from my friends.
	No, no, no, I'm not serious about her.
	I'm just there's a difference though.
	Obviously, like, love is something that needs to grow and develop and having these feelings towards a partner.
	You're not instantly going to like be in love with somebody.
	I suppose some people do, but you're not instantly going to have like, it takes time to develop those strong feelings and that bond.
	But what I'm talking about is a girl who like rejected the guy, rejects a guy, turns him down.
	She did not reject him.
	There is not one of his letters.
	I'm not talking about her specifically, but in general, you hear these stories of like, oh no, I turned him down, like blah, blah, blah, three times.
	And then like, oh, I finally, no, man.
	That's not, that's not the kind of relationship that I want with a girl.
	I want her to be down for me from the get-go.
	And she gives you the signals.
	She's giving you the signals that you are welcome into her life.
	Okay?
	I just think that.
	It just gives you the opportunity to put this stand like a little bit of a message.
	I think she settled.
	I think she settled.
	He pedestalized her.
	She didn't even respond to him 25 letters.
	That's ridiculous.
	If a girl didn't respond to me after fucking four text messages.
	If you would have met that couple, you would have changed your mind completely.
	They weren't a couple, though.
	It didn't sound like a couple of people.
	Well, if you would have met them now, because everybody was looking at them, like, I want that husband, that type of man.
	Look, it happened.
	It happened for them, but generally speaking, my advice to men is just find a woman with high interest.
	It's not that much to ask, I think.
	So I don't know.
	Can I say something?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I need to get up for a sec if you guys want to talk shit about me more.
	Finally.
	Well, I've had experiences too where I just saw a guy as a friend and I didn't see him romantically.
	I wasn't initially attracted to him.
	And then as he showed more interest and he was like, hey, I got you this.
	I know you're having a bad day.
	I got you this specific thing that you said that you liked one time.
	And then I was like, oh, wait, maybe he would be a good partner.
	And then with this specific guy, I ended up, he was the closest tale I ever was.
	And I didn't even find him attractive at the beginning.
	So through his actions, through his care.
	That's what he displayed to you.
	That you matter.
	Yes.
	And it means like if men, as Brian says, we're talking about you, Brian, when you're not here.
	Yeah, like me.
	Yeah, if a guy, of course, there are stalkers, there are bad situations from men and women, of course.
	But, you know, if a guy don't want to put any efforts to show, because, you know, women fall in love faster.
	We attached faster.
	For guy, if he doesn't show any actions, any affections, any steps, doesn't take, he will not fall in love.
	It will be your situationship that might be somehow will evolve to relationship.
	But actually, you will feel that you're in a relationship, but the guy is not committed.
	So that's why, of course, you need to consider.
	But in our also culture, if a man shows and acts and he can, it's very romantic stories, you know, just and it exists.
	A woman does quite a bit in a relationship, but it absolutely must that you know the behavior of the man always reflects what the woman also makes men act a certain way.
	Yeah, right.
	And also here in Western culture, what I've heard like European, American culture, men don't take actions for many reasons.
	And that's why they getting used to women taking actions instead of them.
	And then they ended up waiting for the first steps from women like and saying, why she doesn't text me?
	For example, in my head, man who has prior role to text me to show his interest to me.
	And like, yeah.
	Well, it's the whole thing about pursuing and like men, it's built into their nature to be a pursuer, to pursue the woman.
	That's how they get in attack.
	Every animal you ever see.
	Like it's just its nature for the male to seek out to mate these females.
	And that's just how it is.
	That's just how God made us.
	Well, even from personal experience with the man I'm with right now, like I am head over heels for this guy.
	And like I said in the beginning, we had gone on a Tinder date.
	And after that, I had just, I'd never been on a dating web or app before.
	I'd never gone on a date off online, and I psyched myself out.
	I was like, I don't know anything about him.
	I can't do this.
	Just delete a Tinder.
	Didn't hear from him anything.
	We didn't have any connection.
	We saw each other at a gas station.
	Six months later, he had totally cut his hair, changed.
	I mean, we both didn't look anything like we had when we first met.
	I had my hair down to my butt.
	I had chopped it off completely.
	And he just walked up to me and said, you look like my future wife.
	And I said, you look like a man whose number I should get.
	I went to his house and we were like, you're the Tinder date.
	Like, both of us were like, you're that person.
	You know what I mean?
	And it was his mom who remembered me.
	His mom was like, oh, you've been here before.
	You're the girl that ghosted my son.
	I was like, I guess you could put it that way.
	You know, but so I totally do agree.
	I agree with that.
	It's where it just was an awkward time for both of us.
	I was not comfortable with, you know, meeting on Tinder, whatever.
	And then it was like we got to re-meet each other and re-get to know each other.
	And it was definitely super, super cool.
	Yeah, and to have a chance to see each other.
	And also, you know, Brian mentioned that, oh, he wrote 25 letters.
	It's what an effort.
	Yeah, of course, it takes time.
	It takes time to write emails.
	We consider it.
	We will not underestimate it, of course.
	But if just writing emails is just super high efforts that men can't put into relationship, why to consider what he will do more?
	When we will be together, there will be more efforts needed, you know?
	Yeah, I.
	So writing a letter, it's an action, but like it's not.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	I was just saying that I agree with them because anytime in the past where I've tried to be the pursuer, it has not turned out well.
	Yeah.
	It never turns out well.
	Well, there is, of course, elements of like stalkers, people who are sick.
	Yeah, we're not talking about those.
	We're talking about men who are not afraid to take actions and women who are absolutely supporting them and patronizing them for what they are doing.
	You know, and they are grateful to men for taking those actions.
	So we're talking about perfect balance, right?
	Perfect balance.
	I've got a question for you here.
	You said how women have to be coached and changed in order for relationships to be successful.
	It is always a woman who is in the center and core of the man's behavior, actions, feelings.
	Excuse me.
	Financial growth or all opposite.
	It is a woman who can either create a man or break a man.
	Everything starts with the woman.
	Yes, it is hard, very hard to be a woman for a right relationship that would be successful, but that hard work is absolutely worth the full effort and commitment.
	So my question to you is, and if you want to add anything on that, how do women have to be coached and changed?
	How so?
	So first of all, I mentioned before that feminism is definitely killing men.
	And this is the result of what is happening around us.
	Men are just afraid to take actions.
	So whatever they would be sitting and waiting or whatever.
	So a woman is the one who the way she will put herself with romance, she can either build him or she can crush him.
	So the crushing parts are nagging, you are never enough, you didn't throw out all the garbage, you didn't make enough money, or I am making more money than you or whatever.
	That is crushing man.
	So eventually what is going to happen with them with this type of attitude, men is because they need that positive energy.
	They need like that fresh air.
	That's what woman is to men.
	She is fresh air.
	So men, if they're not getting this at home, they're going to either go outside, try to find it in the way of lovers.
	So they will try to get that freshness in somebody who actually recognizes them and believes in them and so on.
	Or his behavior is going to get all screwed up.
	So he might become violent because he needs to prove that he is a man somehow.
	He needs to like, because he needs to feel that he matters.
	Now, the right attitude of the woman with the man is she is supportive.
	She believes in him.
	She doesn't even matter if she makes more money than him.
	She will never throw it in his face.
	But she will believe in her man to achieve whatever he is the provider.
	Grid 1 Motorsports donated $100.
	Chasing after a woman in the U.S. is a great way to catch a case and a better way to ruin a young man's life.
	Women changed the rules, now they have to live with it and put in effort or invest in meow mix.
	So we are not one of the meow-meers.
	We can sort of cake.
	You're eating.
	Oh, I had a little bit of chocolate.
	For everyone, we can, if you want.
	We can't do it during the show just because definitely after the show will, yeah, thank you.
	That was very nice of you, by the way, to make some cake.
	Thank you, Grid 1 Motorsports.
	Thank you.
	Did you want to finish off?
	Yeah, so the woman, she is the one who is the core of how man acts, behaves, how he feels.
	Even like with the right woman, man's manhood will go up.
	His finances will go up.
	His belief and self-esteem.
	Everything is, really starts with a woman.
	So when woman...
	Sure.
	Sort of, not really, but...
	When woman invests all that in the family, kids, her man, then man, typically, like normal man, right?
	They would want to, because their self-esteem is higher, they start making more money, they believe in themselves.
	who they will bring all of those gifts and achievement to.
	They will bring it to their woman.
	So that is because they know that this is where he is recognized, this is where he's appreciated, this is where he's respected, this is where he is loved, this is where he is, you know, he is valued.
	So, but this is like a natural course.
	This is how a relationship is supposed to be like.
	So, yeah, it starts with the woman.
	And in many cases, right now, because women can make money and everything, they think that this is the strength.
	In reality, the strength of the woman is in her wisdom.
	She can make all whatever she wants, but there has to be like two different women.
	Woman of business, she is a boss there.
	She was there, she kicks ass.
	Woman relationship is a woman who believes in her men.
	Okay, all right.
	I have a couple.
	I think I got some notes for you.
	Then I got one or two more questions, and I think we'll wrap up fairly soon.
	So let me see.
	You, in your pre-show messages to us, said, as I just moved to the USA, I would love to share about my dating experience with American men.
	And I think you, hold on, let me skip over the parts that you've already said.
	I had a date with a 10 years younger guy.
	He was involved.
	He had a social service.
	I told this story.
	Did you tell this?
	Sorry, I told you.
	I told this story.
	It's fine.
	I told the story, but I didn't mention the ages.
	So he was 10 years younger.
	Brought his laptop on a date, gave you help with providing information.
	After that, he offered his time for anything I needed.
	I don't have a car yet, as I just arrived to the country three months ago, so we went for grocery shopping.
	Guess what?
	He paid for my groceries, even though I was going to pay on my own.
	Was that, have you seen him again, or was that a one-time?
	Not yet, it was one time.
	And I was thinking, like, we have 10 years difference, you know.
	It's kind of significant.
	Yeah, so you're 10 years younger.
	You're 36, he was 26.
	26, yes, yes, yes.
	But he's an amazing guy.
	I was like, wow, I told him like a bunch of times and we're still in contact.
	So if someone would love to meet this beautiful guy, amazing guy.
	Wait, so did he want to go on a second date with you or what happened?
	We texted to him and I told him that we can be only friends because I honestly told him because of age difference.
	Oh.
	Well, hold on.
	Wait, so you friend zoned him?
	I told him openly.
	I don't say.
	Did you tell him this before he didn't tell him?
	Bought you the groceries?
	No, no, no.
	That's his job.
	Wait, No, that's what he does for work.
	He's a refugee.
	You know there's a date.
	No, he had a drink.
	I thought this was a date.
	No, he didn't.
	You said you had a date.
	You had a date.
	It was a date.
	It was a date.
	So he, you don't have a car.
	He said.
	He offered his time, anything you needed.
	You went grocery.
	Was the grocery shopping, was that the first date?
	Yes, exactly.
	He paid for your groceries.
	He did a bunch of nice stuff that men wants to do or he wanted and I appreciated it.
	And we talked with him and we talked several times with him and we are going probably to meet to his church.
	But I honestly talked to him and told him that we can be only friends.
	For example, if he would invited me, because grocery was involved, I know that what is triggering you.
	I'm triggering.
	I'm triggering you.
	I understand.
	I was going to pay for it herself.
	It's fine.
	It's kind of first thing.
	And the second thing, it might be only dinner, for example, right?
	We could only eat with him.
	And after that dinner, I could say, okay, we can be only friends.
	Or as a lot of women do, they ghost guys, or for example, like this.
	I don't do this.
	I seriously and very openly give a feedback.
	I have a question for you.
	So the first part of the date, did you guys meet for coffee?
	Coffee, just coffee.
	Just coffee.
	So how soon into the date did you know, like, just friends?
	I don't know.
	I never conclude this.
	Until after the date?
	No, until sometimes it, for example, in my kind of life, usually, it was like I always give people chance, for example, even if it wasn't my serious relationships, for example.
	We met several times.
	I always meet in people like maybe three times, something like that.
	And then I can understand, do I want just to go with them?
	But so you went on one singular date with him.
	Yeah.
	He said he'd offer his time for anything you needed.
	Yeah.
	On the first date, went grocery shopping for you, paid for your groceries.
	I don't know.
	Maybe that was what, $50, $100 or something?
	Sure, he offered it.
	All to get friend zoned?
	Exactly.
	You can't get it.
	10 years younger.
	Wait, where's the red pill?
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Did you see this buddy?
	What's his name?
	What's his name?
	Social services worker?
	What's your name, buddy?
	You see this buddy?
	Take the red pill.
	Take the red pill, dude.
	First date, you paid for groceries, bruh.
	That's some simple.
	You pay for a dinner and she never goes anywhere.
	What is the difference?
	She's going to introduce him to somebody who actually age suitable for him and somebody because she actually playing the long game.
	No, no.
	So then I have a question for you.
	Did you ever feel like you couldn't be in a relationship with him?
	Because, like you said, he helps refugees or that type of thing.
	You said, right?
	He's kind of in charge of helping with that.
	He told me that when we met for a coffee, he told me that, oh, you know, I'm helping refugees.
	Oh, into the mic, please.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	He told me, oh, you know, I'm open.
	I'm helping to the refugees.
	I'm going from my work and I can open and show you what's going on there.
	Yes.
	Did that ever make you feel during that date like what?
	Like, am I just someone he needs to help?
	Because I know even for me, I might be kind of like, oh, that's what you do for work.
	No, you know, I appreciate every nice actions of all the people I meet in life.
	You know, when people want to do something nice in any ways, I always, wow, thank you.
	I'm very appreciative.
	And in this case, he said, you know, I know maybe what you need.
	And he took off, he took out his laptop.
	So it doesn't take in Brian.
	It could be only a dinner in a restaurant and people would never see each other.
	So grocery doesn't play anything.
	But that's what was cheaper than even dinner.
	Exactly.
	He said $41, right?
	$41.
	So it doesn't count.
	Groceries on a first date.
	And that is more appreciated by her.
	You see?
	you don't take him to the restaurant because he got even if a restaurant's more expensive though i feel like she's eating the meal right there in front of him like Like, it's a shared experience, whereas if you're just getting groceries, it's like, here's something that you can benefit from down the road.
	Like, in any case, you friend zoned him.
	He bought you groceries.
	That's a big L. Yo, I want to pull up the chat, Nick.
	Yo, chat, I want to hear the chat's thoughts.
	Is it an L?
	Is it an L for the dude to have bought her groceries?
	I think it's an L. What is an L?
	It's an L, even if you continue dating him.
	Even if you were still dating him, I think it's still an L to pay for groceries on the first date.
	Is it still an L?
	Chat, L in the chat.
	Absolutely.
	Now, in your point of view, Brian, somewhere back days, paying for a dinner, the whole dinner was a lose, probably, I think.
	But now you're paying for a dinner.
	So the guy basically paid for a dinner.
	Oh, I don't do dinner dates, really, anymore.
	It's a penalty.
	Did you date?
	Huh?
	No, but like, look, here's the thing, right?
	Like, I'm with the right girl.
	I'm prepared to, you know.
	Yeah.
	To, you know, I'll handle every.
	I'll take care of everything.
	Yeah, we'll be back with you.
	With the right girl.
	Will you get her groceries?
	No, because you know, some people just very kind, and they, when they see someone, they want to help.
	Like if a girl is like, yes, I'm myself, you know, like that.
	I go and help in someone.
	He seemed to be a man who can't do something.
	I'll tell you this, though.
	When it comes to the chase and all this stuff, right?
	I'll tell you this.
	If a girl, like, let's say she lives in Florida or somewhere.
	She lives somewhere.
	Okay.
	She lives in Florida and she demonstrates a very, very, very high level of interest in me.
	Like a girl who shows high level of interest, who meets some of my criteria, whatever, then, yeah, shit, I'll fly you out.
	What's up?
	I'll fly you out.
	What's up?
	I'll pay for the date, right?
	But, but, if I match with some chick on a dating app and she's probably talking to a bunch of other dudes, I don't, I haven't been able to really vet her that well, whatever.
	We can go for a walk.
	It's your choice.
	Yeah, but it's your choice.
	It's a walk date for you.
	But some other people choosing different things, you know.
	I just think it's an L to but good for you.
	You got some groceries.
	It is.
	He put there like a really good energy out there.
	And it's really not bad.
	Here's why.
	She friend zoned him despite the fact that he's a bad person.
	They're still.
	She's just friends.
	But she's going to help him to meet somebody who is more age-appropriate for him.
	And, you know.
	Well, why go on the date?
	But why did you go on the date to begin with?
	Because I'm very open and he is a tall, handsome, smart guy.
	We talked just several times before, and I said, why?
	No, maybe we need to meet.
	I felt really that we have a lot in common.
	We go to church, for example, boss.
	He's very kind.
	He takes care about his mother.
	For example, he's handsome, good-looking provider, takes care of his grandma.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	So, why didn't you go for this guy?
	You know, sometimes chemistry or something like that.
	Chemistry.
	You know, of course.
	Age gap, chemistry.
	So, you know, and I felt that.
	I just don't think about those things when you're meeting someone and then you're thinking, okay, 10 years down the road, I'm going to be 46.
	He's going to be 36.
	I'm going to be an old woman for him.
	And I don't want to take time of a person by trying to meet them again, again, take advantage.
	Probably.
	I saw that he's very kind.
	He might be helpful and help.
	And again, again, again.
	He was inviting me again, to be clear.
	To be clear, this is such a red pill.
	You friend zoned, you friend zoned a handsome, tall, good guy who said he was prepared to do anything for you, who I sounded maybe he was going to drive you around, I don't know, who bought you groceries on the first date.
	I'm very happy.
	Was he pleasant on the date?
	Was he nice?
	Yes, absolutely.
	We talked afterward.
	And you know, Brian, sometimes, sometimes giving me this red pill because I feel I'm nice, I'm nice, I'm kind, but sometimes guys don't fall in love with me.
	You know, Brian, and says, okay, I feel like you're a friend.
	And I'm like, what?
	Why?
	But it's life.
	You know, it happens.
	It happens.
	And what we can do in this situation is to be honest.
	I would go to war for a woman who was attractive, short.
	I'm just reversing the woman.
	Why would you write her 25 letters?
	I'm reversing the.
	Well, I would.
	She bought.
	If a girl bought me groceries, bro, what's up, girl?
	You're mine.
	I can buy you.
	I have foot stamps.
	Let's go.
	Tomorrow, tomorrow.
	This will be under the record.
	You can owe the on-donated $100.
	Why didn't you make him dinner with those groceries, Melania Frum?
	Oh my God.
	As chicks already lost to the Western feminists.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much for these compliments.
	Maybe I will make him dinner because we still stay in touch, you know.
	The point I'm trying to make is that because earlier in the conversation, like when we were talking about the you okay, Nick?
	Earlier in the conversation, when you're saying, when we were talking about the guy who wrote the 25 letters and like men shouldn't do these romantic gestures, here you have a guy who you admit was good looking, tall, pleasant, good personality, it sounded like, cared about his parents, cared about family, was prepared to like be a provider, went on the first date to buy you groceries, which like that's super wholesome.
	I don't know.
	That's super cool.
	Is it any wonder why men are pulling back and hesitant to do some of these romantic gestures when you friend zoned the dude that did all those nice things?
	So in my head, I'm like, I could do all that shit.
	Or I could just be like, come over to my place, babe.
	What's up?
	You know, maybe, maybe because, you know, in your case, you just, I can be nice, but I can be not nice.
	So I can to play, I can to choose.
	But in his case, it's just, you know, I'm a man.
	I'm a giver.
	I want to help women.
	Women, women too as well.
	So that's like for him to give and help, it is engraved.
	It is like it is his joy.
	For her to give and help, even whatever she has, she doesn't have much, but whatever she has, it is joy.
	And she will give her last shirt to the one who is in more need.
	So it is, hearing is a different type of, you know, that's just now.
	I just think, look, that's fine.
	I just, I can't imagine like doing all that.
	I also feel like because you, you, like, guys, you do all.
	Look, again, I don't think men are owed anything just because they spend money on you or they do anything.
	However, I also think if men are taking actions which are not leading to the furtherance of the relationship, then men should perhaps start reconsidering whether it's worth it for them to take those actions.
	Again, so like, no, maybe.
	If I pay for a first date, I don't feel like I'm entitled to anything.
	I don't feel, I think it's really weird.
	No.
	Really?
	No, if I, no, I don't feel like no, I'm not entitled to that because I think that's, that's, it's, it's kind of creepy and weird.
	If a guy's like, well, I paid for the first date, so I'm now entitled to like sex.
	That's, that's creepy.
	It's kind of on the edge of almost, I don't want to use the word, but it's kind of like, that's pretty skeezy.
	But if like I was paying for all these dinners, doing all these things, and then like I'm getting friend zoned.
	What all these things are.
	I'm going to start thinking, all right, let me just invite these girls over.
	She wanted to pay for those groceries herself.
	He insisted he didn't let her.
	You're right.
	He's a simp.
	He's a sim.
	He's doing that.
	That's some simp shit.
	You know, he's different.
	I'm not saying it's her fault.
	I'm not saying it's your fault.
	It's nobody's fault.
	It's just he did all these great things.
	And he feels good that he was able to help someone.
	That's why he works in a refugee center.
	Is that where you guys met?
	No, no.
	Okay.
	Well, here, I got some other examples just to move on from that one.
	You said another guy drove 150 miles to meet me in my place.
	He brought many nice gifts and took me to bowling, excursion to Nevada City, and so on.
	Was that just a one-time date?
	Like you only, how many times?
	Was that a one-time thing?
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	One-time thing.
	Bro, you guys...
	Yo, look at me.
	Look at me.
	Which camera?
	I'll do this camera.
	I'll do this camera right here.
	Y'all are doing way too much.
	Hold up, I got the...
	I don't know, man.
	That sounds like a lot of work.
	Hello?
	Bro, y'all are doing way too much.
	Walk.
	How about a walk?
	Try walk.
	Have you guys tried to walk?
	Maybe just I'm motivating, I don't know, people to do something, you know?
	Maybe they just want to spend time nicely having a girl who admires them or like, because I don't demand, I don't have least, you know, what you want to do with me.
	We're missing you, Mandy Moore.
	Mandy Moore, we need you.
	We need you.
	There's a chat.
	There's a chat coming in.
	Mandy Moore, there's a chat coming in that's about you and they got it.
	Just kidding.
	Okay.
	Oh, you're a fight!
	It's such a fun.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, I mean, you know, it's just in their nature.
	You know, I just meet people who are like that, who said, you know, Jana, let's go with you somewhere.
	Let's do this thing.
	Let's do this thing, you know?
	But look at all these.
	You have a list here.
	Another guy flied to you and visited.
	You visited a cool place together.
	You went to Lake Tahoe and Yosemite.
	Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
	Was that a one-time thing, and then you never talked to him?
	One time he went to several days because he wanted to see Yosemite and he said, you know, I would love to go there with you.
	Here's.
	Yeah, you know, I need these people.
	I don't know.
	I don't post any list of what I need.
	Okay, and then you have another one.
	One guy invited me for a cool picnic in the park.
	He prepared everything, nice food, nice plates, blanket.
	And just during the day, we were sitting in the nice park.
	That's not as elaborate as some of this other shit, not as expensive as this other shit.
	No, he bought very nice.
	Can I ask you a question, though?
	Was that just a one-time date?
	Yeah, that was one-time date.
	So that's four examples of guys doing the most, doing all this extra shit.
	Oh, bitch, all these rooms.
	Yeah, they enjoyed.
	We enjoyed conversation.
	When you ask every one of those guys how they feel about how it turned out, every one of them will say it was a great time.
	It is fantastic.
	And they are grateful.
	Okay, so.
	That's fine, but couldn't, like, if they had just met you for coffee, I mean, that it could have also.
	Of course, absolutely.
	It can be super cool.
	It was their idea.
	Let's go for a picnic for a second.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Like, these guys, how many dates like this do they need to go on before finding the one?
	Because let's say they go on one date a month, and one of these guys flew to you and you went to Lake Tahoe, Yosemite.
	That's maybe like $1,000, $2,000, $3,000.
	He does that once a month.
	This guy is spending tens of thousands of dollars a month in the pursuit of women.
	In the pursuit, like, bro, my dude, have you tried the beach, son?
	Have you tried the beach?
	Just go to the beach.
	What's up, girl?
	You want to go to the beach?
	Let's go to the beach.
	There's sand.
	We can touch the sand.
	Yes.
	It's good.
	You need to rinse them.
	Look, it's good for you.
	You've gotten a bunch of.
	That type of gentleman is not well-spoken as you are.
	So it is much harder for him to get to talk to you.
	English is my second language.
	I stumble over my list.
	I'm talking about like he's a.
	He doesn't have Riz.
	He's got no Riz.
	You're saying he's got to make up for the lack of Riz by it is not easy for him to communicate.
	He doesn't have the experience with women.
	You know, no experience.
	Almost none.
	I mean, if you want to be a little extra and you want, go play pool.
	When you play, like, go play pool.
	So for him, it is actually a good thing.
	It's more like practice of dating and understanding and communication and everything.
	Yo, you dudes, spend you guys here.
	I don't know if you're watching.
	Probably not.
	But, yo, I will give you the game, guys.
	I will give you the Riz.
	I'll give you the Riz.
	I'll give you the Riz.
	Okay.
	I think whatever works.
	I said, get Rizzy, Brian.
	Shoot some game.
	I'm the fucking Rizzler.
	Let's see.
	I don't think you've seen any Riz yet.
	Oh, I've Rizz.
	Do you have you?
	I've done some Riz.
	No balls.
	You won't do any right now.
	No balls?
	No, right.
	You won't do it right now.
	I'll show you balls, balls.
	That's disgusting.
	You don't eat balls.
	You don't like balls?
	What's wrong with balls?
	You don't eat pussy, so I don't want to see your balls.
	No, I wasn't literally.
	I was not literally about to stand up, be like, check this out, Mandy.
	Check it out.
	Your child would love it.
	Your child would love it if you did that.
	They want to see your balls on that thing.
	I don't think that.
	I think so.
	I don't think so.
	I'm not sure about that.
	Okay.
	Brian, check that Star Chat.
	What?
	Check over a Star Chat for me.
	What?
	It's under the threshold, so.
	I took it off.
	Let me see if there's any other chats here.
	Well, okay, I think, let me see if there's any other notes.
	I would just say for all those guys, good for you that you got these experiences.
	If they're happy with it, hey, who am I to judge?
	Why are they not happy?
	Because if they offered it, they got rejected.
	They offered it, but they offered it.
	It is what it is, though.
	It is not about only show off in front of a woman.
	It's about spending time nicely and see how it goes.
	Here, it's not a perfect example, but like, let's say you had, let's say you had sex with a guy and then he rejected you after, like, he didn't, he just fucked you once and then ghosted you.
	If he dated two months, for example, if he dated me two months, for example, right?
	He told me that we are boyfriend, girlfriend, and so on and so on.
	It will not be possible that he will fuck me once and then say, okay, bye-bye.
	Because until then, we will be already in.
	But it's a little different, but I imagine that's perhaps how men feel.
	That's why I don't have hookups.
	I'm not interested, you know.
	Sure, okay.
	I'm just curious, like, why didn't it work with any of these guys?
	These guys all did all this extra stuff.
	I'm looking for my husband, for the person who I would love to spend my life with, you know?
	There are cool guys, nice guys, but you know, when you don't feel sometimes, you feel kind of that, for example, with someone, you can probably meet one more, but with one guy, he is out of country for business, you know, and we can't meet, for example.
	I would love to meet again if you will invite me, you know, and something like that.
	So it's about feeling who is your person.
	And some of the guys, they didn't ask me back for a date, which is totally fine, you know.
	We're not like money banknote to be loved by everyone, you know.
	It's fine.
	Was I sad?
	Yes, I also was sad, you know, like you give me a red pill, please.
	You know, kind of.
	Metaphorical red pill.
	Wait, do you have, are there like, I know you only provided those few examples, but are there other, like, you don't have to tell me the details, but like, have you had other experiences similar to those where these guys are, you know, maybe getting you a gift or taking you on a trip or doing all this extra shit?
	How about asking her if she gives them gifts?
	Exactly.
	Because she does.
	I does too.
	On the first date?
	I do too.
	You know.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And she cannot give much, so she would order something like personalized thing and so on.
	So it's one guy celebrated a couple of years, let's say several years sobriety.
	And I ordered him a cup, a personalized cup for a coffee.
	I don't know, it just seems like...
	It was first date.
	It just seems clear evidence that even if you do all this extra stuff, it really doesn't like it doesn't work.
	It doesn't work.
	That's why you don't do it.
	It's not the end.
	It's just the beginning.
	She just got here.
	She's just trying to figure even understand the culture.
	And you know, we need all to see, I think, dates or something like that, or meeting people just as a time that we spend in a nice atmosphere.
	Yeah.
	Like with nice people.
	For example, you can choose, always choose to invite a girl for a dinner or eat alone because you don't want to pay, for example.
	Right?
	Sure.
	But if it's a good company and you're enjoyed, why to consider this dinner failed?
	Why?
	Maybe you will find a friend, maybe you will find a partner, maybe you will find something else, you know.
	I think we do put too much pressure to this.
	Oh, I bought her coffee or I bought her a meal.
	Oh my God, I put such a lot of effort.
	Or no, no, no, coffee is cheaper.
	You know, but you can offer this thing and this too, and it will not cause any damage in your pocket, right?
	Or she also can pay and bring coffee for you the next day, for example, right?
	So it is just, I believe in kindness and exchange, energy exchange.
	If we put kind things to people, you know, they also come up with all these offers.
	Let's go there.
	Just let's go.
	It doesn't mean that I need to give something back.
	But during these meetings, I try to, you know, to show my appreciation, my happiness to talk to these people deeply.
	Sometimes they share really hard stories to me about their lives.
	And some of my words of support also can be healing.
	We all can be healing to each other.
	That's how I see it, you know.
	Sure.
	Look, that's fine.
	I can only advise my viewers.
	I can speak about my own experience.
	I just, I think it's best to, you ought to wait until you're a bit more established in the same way that women like to wait, for example, to have sex with a man before, or they want to wait to have sex with a man to establish, okay, are we just seeing each other?
	Is this going to be a long-term thing?
	I also think men should perhaps wait a bit before falling into being a provider.
	They didn't, they weren't providers.
	they just for them for them it was natural thing you know for some people go ahead I just, I had a question just, kind of, I don't know how to phase my question, but kind of like towards you.
	Like, how do you expect to not be a provider at the jump, but you expect them to be obsessed and in love with you from the jump?
	Oh, it's very easy because of my charming.
	Brian, hit the crickets.
	Hit the crickets.
	No, look, again, and I am, I'm prepared to be with the right woman.
	I'm prepared to be the provider from the jump.
	Also, however, I will say, women who are so into you, there are some women who will be so into you, have like so, what's the term?
	They don't need that.
	Yeah.
	Like, plenty of women will like be so attracted to a guy or just really like fuck with a guy because of his personality or whatever, his humor, maybe his status, whatever it may be.
	They're just happy to be with him.
	And actuality, what I would argue is, is that take, for example, a guy who's really wealthy or a guy who's really famous.
	I'm not saying like, bro, I'm a fucking YouTuber.
	Like, I don't have a big head about this.
	But, like, take, for example, I'm trying to think of, like, a male musical artist that, like, women are really.
	Take, like, who's, like, I'm trying to think of a male.
	Tyler Tillers is a big one.
	The weekend?
	I don't know, but like, I would argue that actually a lot of women like would not have the negotiating power.
	I feel like Andrew Tate says this way better.
	He uses Andrew Tate uses the example of Chris Brown.
	Now, I don't think Chris Brown is the ideal example here, but like a lot of women will go and fuck Chris Brown without any expectation that he'd provide anything.
	A lot of them will probably like go above and beyond.
	And you can replace Chris Baum with a more desirable guy, I guess.
	Whereas the guy who's making 40K a year, they're going to look to him who's less capable of spending money on them.
	And they're going to expect him to do all the providing and provisioning and blah, blah, blah.
	But if a guy's high status enough, that shit goes out the window.
	That's when girls will end up becoming simps.
	So, and I'm in favor of female simping, by the way.
	I believe in female simping.
	Now, so, sorry, your question again was, oh, okay, how do I expect that?
	I would argue that actually a woman who's okay with you not providing, that's actually a way to screen out for very high interest women.
	Because they will, I don't want to use the word tolerate, but they're fine with not you not providing.
	They're just so into you for perhaps other reasons.
	And it also weeds out gold diggers too, I think.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	But like, if the girl is like, don't get me wrong, like if I really like the girl and it depends on the dynamics too.
	Like if she's a career girl and she's making good money, she's making six figures.
	Like, okay, we can do, like, you can pay your own shit.
	Like, we're both adults here.
	But if, you know, if it happens to be the case that I'm dating somebody who's not quite, you know, well, well enough along in their career or whatever, I'm significantly out earning them, then I can take care of it.
	It's not a problem.
	But she's got to be just for me.
	There can't be other guys in the picture.
	Like, if I come, here's my view, right?
	And I don't know, maybe I'm fucking delusional.
	If I come into your life, the other dudes are a rap.
	First date, goodbye.
	The other dudes have to be gone.
	There can't be other dudes in the picture.
	So you're offering girls to be your girlfriend on the first date.
	So you see someone and say, now you're my girlfriend.
	That takes a little bit of time.
	Okay, you see, it takes a little bit of time.
	It takes a little bit of time.
	Of course, yeah.
	She's got to be in waiting.
	Girlfriend's in waiting.
	Waiting, crying, you know, see the oh my god.
	That's right.
	That's nice.
	That's all right.
	That's a good idea.
	Girlfriend's in waiting.
	These gold diggers are waiting $100.
	If you say no to a coffee date, you're missing the point.
	No one has to get ready for a coffee date and it cuts the bullshit, money and the makeup.
	Latina on the right, what do you think?
	Latina on the right?
	What do you think?
	I think you.
	I think he's talking to you.
	He's talking to you, girl.
	I mean, I'm totally fine with the coffee date.
	I'd rather do that first than be stuck out of dinner with someone I don't vibe with for like two hours.
	Word?
	Word.
	Wait, guys, we are going to go.
	We're going to do a brief after show, 10 minutes after show, then we're going to wrap up.
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	Let's just keep it like this.
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	Oh, wait, is that?
	Oh, I already showed that, right?
	Okay, yeah, you can hide that one, Nick.
	Let's see here.
	Oh, okay.
	For yikes.
	For yikes.
	Oh, Jordan donated $69.
	Can we get an it's morph in time?
	From the five ranges across from Brian.
	Oh, that's a.
	Oh my god, brother.
	Holy shit, dude.
	Wait, Nick, can you just Google like Power Ranger's theme really quick?
	Yeah.
	Do you guys know?
	Oh my gosh, they have the colors.
	I love that.
	We got the red.
	Where's the pink ranger, though?
	She's wearing a red top.
	Yeah, that.
	No, yeah.
	We need red, black, yellow, blue, white, black.
	Someone from the middle.
	It's morphin' time.
	Wait, how does it go?
	Yeah, it goes.
	Wait.
	He's like, it's morphin' time.
	I'm like, okay.
	But he crosses his arms first.
	I go like this.
	Wait, all of the girls here.
	I want all of you at the same time, or one by one, to say, it's morphin time into the mic up.
	It's morphin' time?
	What are you doing?
	Wait, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Again?
	Wait, can I see a video first?
	Because I've never seen Power Rangers.
	Just do it.
	It's Morphin Time.
	That was kind of seductive the way she said it.
	It's Morphin Time.
	It's Morphin Time.
	It's Morphine Time.
	Morphine Time.
	This is a drug podcast now.
	Can the girls over here say too?
	I don't know.
	No.
	Huh?
	We're not part of the Power Ranger crew, apparently.
	Come on, Nelson.
	Okay.
	For Nicole, for yikes.
	Oh, I saw one of your tweets.
	Men almost always want to marry me after the first date.
	I guess that's why I haven't been on one in almost two years.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I've dealt with like a stalker before.
	Good times.
	So yeah, I'll take a break.
	Just yeah, men have wanted to marry me before.
	So like pretty early.
	And I don't know how to feel about that.
	No.
	Thank you.
	So the other bigger one.
	Yeah, that one's kind of small.
	Brian mentioned events from Matchmaker.
	What are these events?
	Tell us about that.
	Yeah, Love Tours.
	So it's four or five days events that we do several times a year in different parts of the United States and where we have women flying in and guys flying in from all the different areas and we have lots of coaching, couples building, lots of fun, lots of, yeah, big program, lots of lots of fun.
	So we do form lots of couples there.
	I need a new privacy screen.
	I don't know if you guys have like for I, just okay so so so sorry continued sorry, is there more?
	Yeah, so the?
	What's it called?
	What's the name of the company Oxana LOVE named after you?
	I've actually, it was created when I was 16 years old without even my yeah, it was created kind of for me.
	Yeah, I decided that when I was 16.
	Okay, so nice yeah, so we do create lots of couples now during those events, but it is that lots of work, it is fun, but it is lots of work for individuals, lots of coaching, lots of changing yourself and you know, people end up being happy nice, very nice, very nice okay, let me see.
	Oh, we have Stiffler here.
	This is always a good one.
	Ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to ten.
	NPR Radio okay, never mind.
	Oh, starting with you, and we'll go around the table.
	Go ahead, Sissy Cece sorry sorry sorry um, eight word um, I'd say ten.
	Yeah, there's always room for improvement, sure, but like, I think I'm cute, like.
	So just to, I'm gonna take your words, and I'm gonna say them back to you.
	I am a ten, but there's always room for improvement.
	If you're a ten, there is no room for improvement.
	Like maybe, if you said I'm a nine.
	There's a room for improvement.
	It's more like upkeep, like upkeep yeah okay, all right Mandy, what about you?
	I think I'm like a seven and a half, but an eight, because I'm funny.
	This is just looks, though.
	This is just looks, other than yeah, like seven and a half okay sure, what about you?
	I don't go by outer looks, but for what?
	The person on the inside?
	So for looks, just on looks.
	If you had to, I don't know what would you say.
	I don't know you want me to.
	I'm not.
	I don't make it a habit to rate the women, the person who, the person that defines a person is who, the person on the inside, you know.
	So, based on the inside and type of person I am.
	It's pretty decent.
	That's not an answer.
	That doesn't.
	Yeah, thank you, thank you.
	Thank you for having my back.
	Thank you Uh, looks on the scale of one to ten.
	Three?
	No.
	Girl, you got big boobs.
	You more than a three.
	Come on now.
	Okay, what about you?
	I put some effort, so seven.
	Okay.
	Six or seven.
	Sure.
	I don't really put a lot of effort in, so I'd go with like four or five.
	I just throw clothes on at night.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like a seven.
	I used to get, honestly, I feel like I've needed to revise this answer.
	I've just been in the habit because I always give the same answer every time.
	But I've honestly should have revised this answer a lot sooner because this has been going on.
	So I used to say I'm a six, maybe a 6.5 on a good day.
	However, honestly, the truth is, I am a stress eater and I've gained some weight.
	I'm getting a little chubby.
	I need to lose some weight.
	My face has gotten a little fatter.
	I used to say I'm a six.
	I think now I'm a five because I've gained some weight.
	I think I'm a five now in looks.
	Maybe if I lose some weight, I can get back to a six, maybe a 6.5 if I lose even more.
	So that's how a man answers that question.
	Honestly.
	Yeah, I need to lose some weight though.
	Yeah, good talk.
	Dad bots are nice.
	Dad bots aren't.
	I'm always in though.
	No, you guys say that, but it's not true.
	It's not true.
	It is the truth.
	But yeah, I've needed to revise.
	I need to lose some weight.
	And I need to lose some weight for a while.
	It's bullshit.
	I'm like a five, right?
	I'm a five right now.
	I ain't a six no more.
	You just had to get ready for winter.
	You know, and we count on charisma more than on out the look.
	That rose.
	Yeah.
	I think actually I think looks are almost more important for a man in some ways.
	No.
	I think it's more important.
	I think that's a good thing.
	The first thing is always like if they're funny.
	They need to be funny.
	Yeah.
	They need to be funny.
	If you are not funny, you say that.
	You say that, but if he's not physically attractive.
	You can see my roster, and you will know that I'm telling the truth.
	Okay.
	I missed it earlier.
	We were talking about how I didn't.
	Stop the cap.
	Oh, okay.
	God, God, God.
	When I met this guy, I didn't find him attractive.
	And then as I got to know him, it like changed.
	Okay, well, I'll give you that.
	Men are able to make up for their lack of physical appearance in other ways.
	Like if they're really funny or they have status or they have money or they're bringing something to the table.
	However, most men don't have that shit.
	Like most men are not funny.
	Most men are not charismatic.
	Most men don't have status.
	Most men don't have money.
	So yes, men can make up for it in other ways, but yeah.
	Women choose men who they feel safe with.
	So whatever the point of safety that the man can provide to a woman, that's who she will choose.
	True.
	It's true.
	It's true.
	Thank you, Stiffler, for that question.
	That was very nice of you.
	What's wrong with it?
	You got a problem with the way I talked about it.
	How do I talk?
	Why does it sound so good on you?
	Roasted.
	Holy shit, that wasn't roasted.
	No, no, no.
	What do you.
	Let me read this.
	Oh, go ahead.
	That voice sounds good on me.
	Do you have like a kink or something?
	Girl, bye.
	Bye.
	You want to?
	Answer the question.
	Some girls be like, imagine, yo, chat, chat.
	Imagine like you're in bed with a girl, right?
	And she's like, yo, like for dirty talk, she's like, yo, I want you to talk like you're gay while fucking me.
	And you're like, okay.
	I would listen.
	No, I wouldn't do that shit.
	I wouldn't see that shit.
	Maybe as a joke, that might be funny.
	I don't know.
	You sound like you're getting into it.
	What the?
	New kink discovered.
	All right.
	Hey, that's my job.
	I'm doing good.
	All right, we have sociji.
	Women will bend and break their own rules for the right guy, and the majority of good men that would do anything for them are disregarded.
	The 80-20 rule is very real.
	Facts.
	Soci, thank you very much for the donation.
	Thank you.
	Big J, consider she's from a place where $300 is often the monthly wage, and she's on food stamps here.
	Do you really think a person accepting help in this case is being a gold digger?
	Y'all shameless?
	Wait.
	Yeah, you shamed me a little bit.
	I didn't shame.
	I did not shame.
	Did not shame.
	Well, people in the chat.
	more so no it's not I don't think you're a gold digger if you take up someone's office.
	$41 is the gold.
	I'm taking this gold.
	No, I put more in the same way that I want women to have agency and accountability and the perhaps poor decisions they make when it comes to dating.
	I also think men need to have accountability.
	Like, for example, the dudes who spend all this money on OnlyFans and Sugar Daddies and PayPs and all this shit.
	Granted, look, there are some women out there that can be predatory in the way that they move and try to get these dudes, but like ultimately, if you bust out your credit card and your wallet, that's on you, dude.
	Like you need to.
	There's two parts.
	there's supply in the demand and if you're creating the demand and if you're feel great it's not that hard to just have you have you tried googling boobs Have you guys tried that?
	Oh, you're going to pay $20 for her OF?
	Have you tried Googling boobs?
	20 million results for boobs.
	Just saying, I can.
	And even my shit, if large labyrinth, I can just, I'll need to pay for OnlyFans for that.
	Just Google that shit.
	Large labies.
	Mine's free, too.
	Mine is free.
	Outies.
	But that's not how you make your money.
	Okay.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey.
	Click the link in my bio.
	I can't stand you.
	I was a little slow with it, but.
	Okay, last thing here.
	Did you want to talk about, you know, the ting?
	No.
	You don't want to talk about it?
	No.
	Don't want to talk about it?
	You sure you don't want to?
	Oh, you're talking about round two?
	Sorry, maybe round two.
	What's her name?
	Pickle?
	Yes.
	Her name's Pickle?
	Yikes.
	Yikes.
	I feel like I had another question, but I forgot.
	Does anybody, while I'm trying to jumpstart my brain here, does anyone, anyone at the panel here, have a final thought or question?
	Anything you guys would like to talk about before we wrap up the show?
	Anything?
	I think educating yourself on things you want to talk about is very needed.
	Don't just use big words that have been thrown around.
	Who's this directed to?
	I think we all know.
	I wanted to keep it a little bit broader, but I think you definitely came on the podcast today very uneducated.
	I think you were very back and forth with yourself.
	I think you have a lot to just think about, like, not necessarily for everyone around you, but maybe in your own self, what you actually want out of things and how you actually feel.
	Because it seemed like maybe you even were a little confused by yourself.
	I know I've totally been in that position too, where I don't know what I believe.
	I don't know how I feel about myself, but it definitely felt today there was some of the things you talked about.
	You were definitely undereducated about it and just very back and forth and confusing about it.
	You gonna respond?
	I agree with I should be more educated on more topics and not just referencing like specifics.
	And if I am, then be more forward about that.
	As I said, like, yeah, I wasn't really prepared for some of the larger, more broader questions when I was referring to like specific stuff.
	Are you saying you want to run it back?
	Do a little round two?
	Perhaps.
	There's no way you're coming.
	I don't think.
	Did I go too hard?
	I think I went too hard.
	No, I don't think so.
	Talking to the mic.
	Be more prepared and talk in the mic.
	Talk into the mic.
	So anybody else?
	Anybody else got a final thought?
	Yeah, I can ask a question.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I actually want to know from the ladies, your single status, whoever is single.
	Is it a choice or are you just put in the situation that you got nobody to date?
	Mine's a choice.
	And why?
	Because right now I'm more focused on my school and my work.
	So that's what my main focus was right now.
	For me, I don't really know how to meet people because I'm not really big on dating apps and I don't go out much.
	Like I'm a very much homebody.
	I'm at home caring for my grandmother, the full-time student.
	So it's like, where are the good men?
	I don't know.
	I don't know how to meet people my age without like going out to like a club or something, which just really isn't my style, to be honest.
	Like meeting people organically, like where do you find men?
	I don't know.
	Okay, so it is not choice.
	It's just kind of circumstance.
	I don't know.
	Based on what everyone else was saying, I guess I'm not single.
	Where are the good men?
	They're at home asleep.
	Yeah.
	They're in bed right now.
	It's past their bedtime.
	They're sleeping because they got work in the morning.
	My boyfriend's on the car sleeping right now, so.
	You're not dropping $100 to like roast women.
	Damn.
	That was spot on, though.
	That was a good one.
	That was a good one.
	I think that is where the good men are because they're wondering, where are all the good women?
	Hey, support yourself.
	watching my podcast i really want to hear redhead try to find what oh would we could get into that Let's go fuck it.
	Fuck it.
	Why not?
	You know, we got a bit of time.
	It's been past 10 minutes.
	Going around the table.
	Well, I think it's directed.
	No, we'll go around the table fully on this.
	What is a woman?
	A woman is someone who's biologically born as a woman.
	Sorry, I couldn't.
	A woman is, I don't know, a woman.
	Whoever refers to himself as a woman is a woman, in my opinion.
	So, just so I understand, a woman is a woman.
	Biologically, yes.
	If a woman's biologically born as a woman, she's a woman.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	What about you?
	So, definition, what is a woman?
	Like, you know, there's the biological woman, and then there's a lot of controversy with transgender.
	And that's, I mean, to me, like, that's fine.
	Whatever makes you feel comfortable in your own body and confident, do your thing.
	As long as you're not, like, bothering anybody, like, you're just being yourself, like, you do you, you know?
	Yeah.
	I'm not one to judge, like, do your thing.
	If that's what you're confident in and that's what you're comfortable being you, you do that.
	Yeah.
	I might get a bit of a clapback by maybe the comments or like some people at this table, but I believe that a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman.
	It's not biological or anything to me or maybe to other people, but if you identify as a woman, then you're a woman in my eyes.
	If you want to be called a woman, then you're a woman.
	Can I ask you?
	So a woman is somebody who identifies as a woman.
	Yeah.
	Do you have something on that?
	But what does that mean?
	Like.
	So, yeah, what is a woman?
	Do you think that trans women are women?
	I think biological women are women.
	I think you're wrong.
	That's what I think.
	But what defines being a woman?
	And you can't define.
	If you identify.
	Just personally to me, I don't want to have to argue my decision, but I think if you identify as a woman and you believe that you're a woman, then you're a woman.
	That's plain and simple, from my opinion.
	If you think otherwise, then that's on you.
	I understand.
	I understand.
	No, no, sorry.
	Sorry, I'm fucking losing my game.
	I understand.
	Can anybody?
	Is there any move?
	Here, I don't know if.
	Can you guys see the screen?
	Is there anything?
	What are you doing?
	I'm playing solitaire.
	I'm playing solitaire.
	Is there a move I can make?
	Chat, is there a fucking move?
	I think I'm trapped.
	I don't know if you can see that.
	Is that a two of hearts and a wait?
	What was the I think I'm fucked?
	I don't see a move.
	It's totally scuffed.
	Oh, well.
	Okay.
	I see a move.
	Just kidding.
	There's no move.
	There's the aroma of, to be honest.
	Oh, did you have...
	Sorry, did you have.
	Yeah.
	So I understand that that's what you believe in.
	We just disagree on that.
	But having like you can't define something with that thing necessarily.
	You can't say a woman is a woman because what does that mean?
	It means what I just said.
	That's your opinion.
	I'm not going to argue about it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	A woman is love.
	It is care.
	It is nurture.
	But overall, it is love and kindness.
	Okay.
	Beautiful answer.
	It's beautiful.
	Oh, frick.
	You need to still play.
	Huh?
	He's playing something else now.
	No, I'm listening.
	I'm listening.
	I'm on some like destiny multitasking shit.
	I'm listening.
	Don't worry, I'm listening.
	Woman is a person who has feminine energy.
	Also, who share this feminine, loving, soothing energy.
	And I've never been to any other skin.
	I can't feel for people who feel differently, so I can't judge.
	But I feel also that it's something that's been given to you to be a woman, for example.
	Yeah, it's given to you if you.
	Okay.
	Moving on.
	What about I think a woman is like the creator of all human life and to be a woman means sacrifice.
	Also, to obviously like have children.
	Oh my god.
	Grid1 motorsports donated $69.
	A dude that addresses up as a woman is still a dude and there is no way as a straight hetero male I am going to kiss him.
	There is no reason for me to participate in others' mental illness.
	Thank you for sharing your perspective, Grid 1.
	Thank you.
	Where were we?
	I was finished.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, I was just going to do that.
	Okay.
	I think a woman is someone who is born with a vagina and has the capability to give birth and have periods.
	I, yeah, I mean, 2023 woman of the year is someone who has a penis, and I think that's disgusting.
	I think women are beautiful creatures and they should be treated as women and no one should have the right to take that away from a woman.
	I agree with that, and I'd like to expand that more so than just definitions.
	In the Bible, it says God created them male and female, right?
	So he has created us specifically in two different genders, two different, it's the same thing, sex and gender is the same thing.
	He has created us in this way to complement each other, to have different roles in a home family, in a home family setting.
	He has created us in this way, just like we've talked about this whole time that we've been talking together.
	We've talked about the differences between how men and women are in relationships.
	And he's created us this way for a reason.
	And God does not make mistakes.
	He has not mistakenly put a man's soul in a female's body or vice versa.
	I'm sorry.
	He made you that way and he loves you the way that you are.
	He has not created you in the body that you're created as a mistake.
	And that's just my take on that.
	All right.
	There you have it, folks.
	There you have it.
	Okay, hold on.
	Where did that?
	Oh, I think, okay, we did that from Nickelodeon.
	We have, oh, one question related to that.
	Would you, for those of you, okay, I'll just ask the question.
	Would you object to me, for example, or just any man, not wanting to date a transgender woman?
	Would you object to that?
	We'll start with you, go around the table.
	No, I think everyone's allowed to have their own preference.
	Yeah, everybody's allowed to have their own preference, and yeah, that's fine.
	Okay.
	You're allowed to have your own preference, and I'm glad that you're not dating a trans woman if you don't want to, because that would put them in a very uncomfortable position.
	No.
	I would be sad if I would.
	Okay.
	I would be sad.
	It's getting late.
	I would be sad, Brian, if I would have known that you're dating a transgender because our chances are getting lower and so on and so on.
	But yeah, of course.
	Oh gosh.
	Look at the camera and do it.
	this lady is also yeah but but i do believe that adults can do whatever they want And we never know what kind of pain, what kind of suffers, what kind of battle people who are gender their sex going through.
	Okay, sure.
	All right.
	Nope.
	Yeah, if you don't like them, you don't like him.
	Yeah, same.
	All right, we have Richard Jana.
	If a 10-year gap is too young, what is too old?
	I saw Oksana's answer on her site.
	Oh, wow.
	What is too old?
	I'm a very open person.
	I don't like make conclusions when I don't know people, when I don't know what it will be in my life.
	But as I can assume right now, like probably 15 years gap.
	In either direction?
	No, in either.
	He asked the older direction.
	Okay.
	Okay, but I never know.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Or someone who can still have kids, even if it is older.
	And if they are yes, yes.
	If it's a match, if we are on the same page, of course.
	You never know.
	My parents are 15 years apart.
	Yeah.
	And they've been married for a while.
	I know cool marriages for 20, 25 years apart, and it's cool.
	That's why I'm not telling you.
	My housemaking is 15 years old.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We have Stochastic Decay question for the panel.
	What is a green flag hobby for a man?
	Don't skip Tara, Me?
	Tara.
	Have you seen Drew Blood?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Definitely not here.
	Starting with you, what is a green flag hobby for a man?
	I think someone who's like active and has works out a lot.
	Okay.
	Yeah, like working out, pursuing education and trying to learn new things, business ventures like that.
	That's a great hobby.
	Why not?
	Word.
	Any hobbies that you can invest in the future, not just temporary?
	Something for the long run?
	Okay.
	You can work with your partner.
	Green flag.
	I'm still trying to figure out what the question is.
	So I guess he collects Pokemon cards.
	It could be a gamer.
	That's probably a red flag for most women, though.
	Self-improvement, attending seminars or whatever, you know.
	Okay, like furthering education sort of thing.
	Wanting to grow.
	Yeah, continue growing and continue.
	Nice, yeah, yeah.
	What about you?
	For me, it would be helping people or impacting others' lives.
	Gotta impact.
	Pickleball.
	Pickleball.
	If they love pickleball, if they like pickleball.
	If they play pickleballs, you ought to come to Utah.
	Pickleballs, yeah.
	Why would it matter if a gay man dressed as woman felt uncomfortable about a heteroman not wanting to date him?
	How about how uncomfortable a straight man would feel about finding out finding a peen down under Mandy?
	I wanted to mandate.
	Mandy!
	Sorry, that was cringe, my bad.
	Yeah, stop.
	The previous question, the girls didn't answer.
	Yeah, go for it.
	No, you don't want to answer grid one?
	Do you want to just quickly answer that?
	As a cis woman, I don't think that's my place to answer that question.
	Sorry.
	All right.
	Green flag hobby?
	Working out, military, knowing some sort of fighting style.
	Things like that, I think are attractive.
	Sweet.
	I also agree fighting MMA specifically, because that's what my boyfriend does.
	I think it's the hottest thing ever.
	Anyways.
	And like trading horses, working with animals, it's a big thing.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, working out, being like outdoorsy.
	I love a musician, but I don't know if that's really a green flag.
	Oh, wow.
	That's just a plus.
	Just a plus.
	All right.
	Sometimes.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I think we're all caught up on the chats.
	Go to Twitch really quick.
	Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever mods if you can spam it.
	Drop us a follow, drop us a prime sub.
	Let's see.
	Deadly wave, thing for the prime.
	Spin cruise thing for the prime man.
	Very much appreciated.
	Do I raid somebody on Twitch?
	I don't know.
	I feel like there's no World of Warcraft players right now.
	It's just like, and I try to raid like people who might actually even acknowledge the raid.
	So there's Emeru.
	Oh, fuck that.
	Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
	Bruv.
	What's up, Emeru?
	How you doing?
	Okay.
	Got nervous.
	There's Summit1G, there's S Fond.
	But these guys are like, I'll have like Emeru's got like 18K Live, S-Fond, 5K Live.
	I don't think these guys, like, do they acknowledge people who raid?
	Wait, Nick, can you pull up the chat?
	And then we could like raid, I don't know, do we raid like a girl streamer?
	But I don't know.
	Someone is playing a new card.
	Some small time random streamer giving them a code.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Who do we, should I raid somebody?
	No, I don't know.
	I feel like the big streamers, like, if you raid them, they're not going to shout out.
	Raid Area 51.
	I don't think that they're going to.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah, dude, Emeru.
	Yeah, she's.
	What's up?
	Actually, she's kind of my type.
	I'm not going to lie.
	She is my type.
	Just saying.
	What's up, you single?
	What's up?
	Someone literally just said about her coming on the show.
	Get her on the show.
	I'd be down to have her on the show.
	Sit right here.
	I got a spot for you.
	Nah, I'd probably put her across from me so we can argue.
	Let's see.
	Let's see.
	I feel like the thing is, though, with big streamers, it's just the reality of the content game or the social media game.
	Most people, if they're much, have a bigger audience than you, like, they don't fuck with you unless you have a comparable audience size, typically.
	So, yeah, it is what it is.
	It is what it is.
	Yo, I'd be super down to have Asmund Gold on.
	I've tried to invite him.
	Dude, we'll fucking, Asmund Gold would be lit.
	Asmundgold would be super cool.
	Yeah, so, okay.
	I think we're caught up on chats.
	Any five, last chance?
	Any final thoughts?
	Anybody?
	I feel like I'm forgetting a topic, a thread, but whatever.
	I don't know.
	Anything?
	Last thoughts?
	Anybody, anybody?
	or a shout out yeah if you guys want to uh where can where can the people because a lot of people have been asking about your matchmaking services somebody's curious about it uh Do you got a website?
	Where can they find out more information about that?
	Yeah, sure.
	Oh.
	Yeah, we got to do the Twitter video.
	Wait, we'll do that later, though.
	After if you want to.
	So I think there's a signature or something, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But do you want to like, it's what?
	Yeah, website is oxanalab.com, O-K-S-A-N-A, L-O-V-E.
	It's just a harder for you.
	Sure, sure, sure.
	Let's see.
	Patrice clip.
	Oh, no, we're not going to do the Patrice clip.
	It's late.
	We'll do because I don't want to be clickbaiting you guys.
	In the title, it says I'm getting sued.
	So I'd play a video for you guys.
	Oh, Nick, you got to go, bro.
	You got to go full screen before you.
	Okay.
	Especially on Twitter because there's all kinds of degenerate shit on Twitter.
	Okay, go for it.
	Have you been saying stupid stuff on the whatever podcast and now you have to face the harsh backlash of the community?
	Kind of like this.
	Meet Anna.
	I'm Anna.
	She denies being racist.
	That's not to be racist because of a small lapse in judgment.
	Prejudices that exist against me don't exist against you, Brian.
	And that's why you can't be racist against a white person.
	And now the internet is laughing at her.
	We're here to help.
	Hi.
	I'm Anita Mann at Feminist Advocates for Inclusivity Legal Services.
	We specialize in reputation lawsuits and I want you to know it is not your fault you made yourself look dumb.
	Me, Christina.
	Hi, I'm Christina.
	She believes men are so superficial.
	Men are so superficial.
	But not without sharing a minor preference of her own.
	Would you date a guy that's shorter than you?
	Absolutely not.
	At least 6'2.
	At least 6'2.
	Yeah.
	How tall are you?
	5'5.
	And now the internet is calling her a hypocrite.
	We understand.
	Sometimes the truth comes out, but there's no reason why you have to take responsibility.
	Your pastime is humbling men.
	You do work in strip clubs, so.
	Do you humble men there?
	No, I take their money.
	Being a feminist is just doing whatever you want to do.
	Daphne and I actually have a point system for hype.
	Double standard.
	Yes.
	At Feminist Advocates for Inclusivity Legal Services, we don't care about the truth.
	We care about your truth.
	Remember, it's not your fault you said it.
	It's their fault.
	They heard it.
	Call us today.
	I'm getting fucking sued.
	Holy fuck, guys.
	Oh my God, dude.
	Shit, it's tough, bro.
	All right.
	Yo, donate to my legal defense fund.
	Streamlines.com/slash whatever.
	Okay, all right, guys, we're gonna wrap up the show.
	Is there anything I'm forgetting, Nick?
	Is there anything else we wanted to pull up?
	Oh, did you have something?
	Well, yeah, because Nectar, they like gave us those cases, so I wanted to shout them out.
	That was nice of them to bring, if y'all want some of the Nectar Seltzer is back there.
	Okay, all right.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Nectar.
	Typically, for promotion, we do it a little.
	All right, okay, okay.
	Well, no, they gave some.
	Well, yeah, but okay, all right, all right, all right.
	Sorry.
	No, it's fine.
	It's fine.
	Okay, so, was there, Nick, was there anything else?
	Yeah, no, the Instagram with the makeup and then the Reddit posts.
	The red.
	Oh, no, we'll do those another show.
	Okay, guys, last call.
	Hit the like button, please, on your way out.
	Thank you for tuning in tonight.
	You could have been anywhere in the world, but you were here with me.
	I very much appreciate that.
	Thank you, guys.
	Let me just double check, make sure there's no supers that came in.
	No, I think we're all good.
	Okay, guys, again, thank you to everyone who has super chatted, donates, supports the show.
	Oh, body count?
	Okay, fuck it.
	Thank you, guys.
	Okay, really quick, what's your body count?
	Should body count matter?
	Should body count matter?
	No, I don't think it matters.
	I don't think it personally matters.
	Okay.
	It doesn't matter as long as you get tested.
	Get tested.
	The question is, does the body count matter?
	Preferably, there would not be too many people involved in the previous relationship, sure, but of course everybody can kind of change themselves if they want to.
	Okay.
	Yeah, for me, the less the better, but I'm undecided on that.
	For me, it does matter.
	Yeah, for me, it matters.
	Okay, so quite a few of you said doesn't matter.
	If body count doesn't matter, what's your body count?
	Four.
	Four?
	Okay.
	Mine's very low, but I'm not just not personally disclosing that information.
	And also, somebody asked for my Instagram.
	It's yikes instead of an eye.
	Wait, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	But it's a.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, it's a yikes with a one.
	No, no, okay, I'm sorry.
	Okay, okay, go ahead.
	I'm serious.
	I'm serious.
	Go ahead.
	No, it's not.
	No, no, no, go ahead, say it.
	No, go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I promise.
	Go ahead.
	Yikes You don't know the way Okay.
	So is it less than 10?
	Yeah.
	Less than 5?
	I'm just not disclosing that.
	Like, when I have a partner, I'll talk to them about it.
	She can't speak into the microphone.
	It's very complicated procedures on a podcast.
	Don't know how to follow instructions.
	Go ahead, Maddie.
	Maddie.
	Sorry, Mandy, Maddie.
	Oh, I'm not answering.
	Speed up this.
	No, do it.
	No.
	Do it.
	No.
	Do it.
	You subscribe to my OnlyFans.
	I'll tell you.
	Don't let my bio.
	My Instagram bio.
	Don't.
	Do it.
	Do it, bullshit.
	Did you just slurp?
	The fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Okay.
	I'm gonna pretend like you didn't just make my dick go soft.
	Oh, good.
	That wasn't me.
	That was this other guy.
	I can already tell that I don't like you.
	Damn, Brian.
	What happened?
	I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon you.
	You're gonna have to call the fucking United Nations and get a fucking binding resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.
	I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker.
	I will massacre you.
	I will fuck you up.
	Harambe.
	This is Haramba.
	Wait, do that again?
	No.
	Okay, come on, give us a range.
	Less than 10?
	More than 50?
	No, you.
	You, you.
	For the BC.
	Not personal.
	More than 50 is crazy.
	More than 50 is crazy.
	She.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to just say like under 20.
	Okay, fair.
	The one that matters is my husband.
	So one.
	Wifey.
	I'll keep it that way.
	Yeah, what about you?
	I would love it to be one person.
	So all others is like fails.
	So why did it disclose?
	I thought you said it doesn't matter the whole.
	I said the less the better.
	Oh, okay.
	That was my point.
	Is it less than 10?
	Yes.
	Less than it's.
	That's it.
	All right.
	What about you?
	11.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	Four.
	Word.
	Zero.
	Yeah.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the real number.
	It's still zero.
	Well, that was for the girl.
	It's still zero, but for the rest of the table, just saying.
	Just saying.
	Multiply it by three, and that's the reality.
	Why would Don't ask Brian?
	As a man of God, I do not reveal that.
	Oh, no, you gotta answer.
	You're gonna impress.
	Answer, answer, answer.
	Nope.
	You didn't answer.
	Yeah, you don't have any.
	I did.
	A man of 50 requests.
	I said under 20.
	Under 20?
	Under 20.
	And then now you gotta answer.
	Cardi CC.
	Answer.
	I will say, like the high body count thing, like that might be good in some regard, like for you no, no for for a woman, not like too high, but like Mandy Mandy, Mandy.
	But women like knowing, just being able to like deal with different guys.
	And then they figure out like oh, this is what I like, rather than like not knowing at all.
	You know what I mean, Because I dated different types of guys to figure out that I like Asian men the most.
	So.
	You gotta do a little shopping.
	Depending on the type of relationship also that you are looking for.
	So like for casual something, yeah, I guess higher body count looks better.
	This guy wins the chat.
	Yeah, Brian, how many men have you slept with?
	That's good.
	I like it.
	That was good.
	You win the chat for tonight.
	A. V Kins, you get the chatter of the night.
	Yeah, the chatter of the stream award.
	Thank you, man.
	Let's see here.
	Okay, we're all caught up on everything.
	Double checking on everything.
	Okay.
	Body count.
	We talked about body count.
	Okay, okay, okay.
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	Good night, guys.
	Oh, 07s in the chat.
	07s in the chat.
	I feel like I'm forgetting something, but I think we hit on everything.
	And it's been a long stream.
	So 07s in the chat.
	Good night, guys.
	Thank you for joining the stream.
	And we'll see you guys next time.

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