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Nov. 6, 2023 - Whatever Podcast
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Rude Girl KICKED OUT! She STABBED Her Blind Date For REVENGE?! | Dating Talk #115

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Scuffed.
Scuffed as usual.
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go subscribe without further what are you doing over there what What's that?
I was feeding my Tamagotchi.
You're feeding your Tamagotchi?
Yeah.
When we explicitly told you before the podcast not to be on your phone, not to be texting?
Sorry.
Do you think that's the appropriate time to be doing that?
My bad.
What do you mean you're bad?
My bad.
Did you forget the pre-show instructions that Nick went over about not being on your phone?
It's not my phone.
It's not on your phone?
It's not a phone.
Does that diminish the degree to which it would be disrespectful to be doing that in the midst of a conversation?
Okay, here's your phone.
Looking at your phone versus looking at your Tamagotchi.
Are you just going to take no accountability or are you just going to sit there like a dork?
I said my bad.
Okay.
Do you realize, though, if we were having a conversation and you were on your Tamagotchi while I was talking to you, that would be very disrespectful?
You weren't talking to me.
I'm in the middle of doing the podcast.
If anybody here at the table is talking about anything and you're on your phone, that would be rude.
It's why we explicitly told you before the show to not be on your phone.
Now, if you want to do some loophole bullshit about, oh, it's not a phone, it's a Tamagotchi.
In practice, it's this exact same principle.
Okay.
So can you do me a favor and put your Tamagotchi somewhere else so I can continue on with the show?
Thank you.
Without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves.
So please tell us your name, age, and occupation.
Go ahead.
Hello, I am Nila Shaik.
I'm 19 years old, and I run a professional marketing agency.
Hi, my name is Nika.
I'm 23, and I'm an author and a singer.
I'm Waifu Delilah.
I'm 19, and I'm an OnlyFans creator.
I'm El Swing.
I'm 19, and I go to SBCC Community College.
I'm Tiffany.
I go to UCSB.
I'm majoring in political science and minoring in philosophy.
Age?
18.
I'm Noelle.
I'm 23, and I'm a scientific analyst.
My name is Madison.
I'm 18.
I'm a full-time student at Santa Barbara City College studying business.
And I work full-time.
I work here.
I'm a host at a bar and I babysit.
Okay.
Going around the table once more, please tell us your current relationship status.
So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship married, polycule, sex cult, harem?
If you're single, how long have you been in?
Have you been single?
What's your longest relationship?
Go ahead.
I am in a relationship and it's been about a year now.
Okay.
Is that that's your longest relationship you've been in?
That's my only relationship.
Only relationship.
Okay, cool.
Go ahead.
I'm currently single.
I've had situationships in the past, but given my background, it is kind of hard to be dating.
Okay, we'll get into that a little bit later on in the show.
What about you?
Or sorry, so you're single?
Yeah, currently, yeah.
Okay.
Longest relationship?
I wouldn't count it as a relationship because.
What's like the longest period of time you've seen somebody?
A year.
One year.
Okay.
By the way, just because I feel extra confrontational today, you were going to come with a friend.
What happened there?
Yeah, like we confirmed last night and I thought it would be a really cool podcast.
So kind of disappointing she didn't show up, but hey, I'm here.
You are here.
She and we had confirmed with her too.
Oh, okay.
She, let me see.
We sent her all the show info.
Yesterday I sent a reminder to everybody, see you tomorrow at 4 p.m. for the podcast.
She responded, see ya.
At 4.15 p.m. when she's supposed to be here at 4 p.m., I send her asking her ETA, and she says, I'm running too late, had to get my car battery checked.
Yeah, and she told me she had an appointment, so she told us two different things.
But it's just if you know you have to be somewhere at 4 p.m., 4.15, and it's not your fault, it's your friend's fault.
4.15, typically you try to, courtesy and etiquette would dictate you try to let somebody know in advance that you can't make it.
Right, definitely for the show, and especially for me as well.
Just because I invited her and like wanted her to be on the show with me.
Because if she knew she was running late as of probably even before 4 p.m., if you know you're going to be late, even like, and this kind of relates to dating and relationships, if you're going on a first date with somebody and you know you're running late, at 3.50, you're supposed to be there at 4.
You should say, hey, sorry, I'm running late, da-da-da.
But in any case, yeah.
Root on her behalf, go ahead.
I'm in a relationship.
How long have you been in the relationship?
Six months.
Is that your longest relationship?
Okay.
What about you?
I'm single and I'm fresh out of a three and a half year relationship.
Yeah.
fresh when how new is the i would say three months ago we broke up but it was definitely interesting like dating someone for that long Yeah, so it was like, was it a high school relationship?
He was.
Because you're 19, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he was in college because he was an actor.
So he graduated.
The audio is muted.
Hello?
Okay.
Yeah.
He's an actor, so he was out of school really early.
Okay.
So three months.
Freshly new breakup three months ago, 3.5-year relationship.
Why did it end?
I feel like I feel like I needed to be like an individual.
I don't know.
I feel like that's hard when you're consistently with someone for so long.
I feel like your identities kind of clash.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Is it long distance?
It wasn't long distance until I moved up here last year, and then it became long distance for that period.
But I mainly went down to like LA every weekend to see him, pretty much.
He never came up here.
So it's a 3.5-year relationship.
For how long of that relationship was it a long distance relationship?
A year?
Yeah, just a year.
And do you think that's what precipitated the breakup?
Was that it became long distance?
That in a number of reasons.
Okay.
Yeah.
Did he cheat on you?
In the beginning.
In the beginning?
Not during the long distance phase.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, T.
So you've been single for three months.
Yeah.
Any rebounds, any other love interests?
I mean, there was an immediate rebound right after, like, immediate.
And then, and then I, I don't know, I had only been with him my entire childhood pretty much.
So I feel like the hookup culture that I was like, the streets, actually, you know, the streets were not meant for me, I feel like, but I'm currently in them.
So I'm trying to get out of the streets.
You're not made for the streets.
I'm not made for the streets.
You attempted to live in the streets.
Yeah, I was like, I was, you know, chilling in there for a while, and I was like, nah, it's, I'm trying to get cuffed before Christmas.
Like, you're trying to get cuffed before Christmas.
Before Christmas.
I need my Christmas gifts.
Any prospects or there is a prospect, but it's not good.
It's not a good prospect.
It's not.
It's not.
What do you mean?
It's getting canceled.
No, it's definitely like a situation ship, but like, it's not shipping, if you know what I mean.
It's a situation ship, but it's not shipping.
No.
You don't ship it.
No.
Does he ship it?
Neither of you ship it.
No, it's like, it's weird.
It's weird.
We're both very in different places.
I would say I'm way more mature and like I'm very relationship oriented, but this man is not.
He's very not.
So we'll just see.
I need to get on other prospects.
You need to get up.
But are you?
When's the last time you saw this guy?
This morning.
What?
You think he's watching the podcast?
No, no, I would not tell him that I was on.
How long have you been seeing this guy?
I would say like a month.
A month?
Or two.
Or two or three?
Yeah, like two months or something.
Because you said the 3.5-year relationship ended three months ago.
So two months ago.
This is pretty.
I would say like a month and a half.
It's a pretty quick turnaround right after that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I usually have like a three-month intermission before I get.
Intermission, okay.
Yeah.
No, that's a good term.
Yeah, I have a little intermission period before, like, you know, wanting to be with someone else.
But I'm like, you know what?
I feel like I need to be single until I'm like 25.
Until you're 25?
Well, you're 19 now.
That's six years or so.
No, I'm lying.
I definitely like 21.
Oh, 21?
Yeah.
That's before Christmas.
Or before Christmas.
Yeah.
Was that cuffing season?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, question.
The guy who you're currently talking to, had you met him while you were still dating your boyfriend.
No, no, no.
Not saying you did anything romantic with him, but were you aware of him?
Did you know him?
No.
While you were still in the relationship?
Okay.
No.
How did you meet him on Tinder?
Dating?
No, just like out.
Like, just out, like in Ivy.
Yeah.
Like beach.
You don't react to that.
No, a party.
A party.
You're blacked out.
Got your number blacked out.
Who's this?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's because we're like kind of meshed in the same friend group type thing.
So that's what happened.
Mutual friends.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
Okay, so, but that's a wrap.
That's done.
Dunzo.
Even though you saw him today.
Considering that I saw him this morning, it is not donezo, but like I need to be donezo.
You need to be done so.
I need to.
You want it to be donezo?
What's stopping you?
What's stopping me from being donezo?
I don't know.
I just, it's nice having one consistent person to be with, if you know what I mean.
So comfort?
Yeah.
Okay.
I would say that.
Is he seeing other women?
Not that I know.
Is it exclusive?
No.
Not exclusive?
It's not.
Are you seeing other guys?
Like, do you have a roster?
You know, a lot of people are.
Yeah, we have the roster.
You both have a roster.
So it's basically like an open relationship.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
So you're not single?
No, I'm fully single.
Is this confusing?
No, it makes sense.
Shit makes sense to me.
No, I feel like this makes sense.
But like, roster.
Okay.
You got a roster?
What?
Is there anybody else on the roster?
Yeah.
What are we talking about?
I would just say there's like.
You got a team?
No.
I would just say there's like two other, two other like prospects.
Prospects.
Yeah.
Okay.
Two other.
So two.
So three people on the roster.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you have a main piece and two side bitches.
The side bitch, though.
Excuse me.
Just this.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
The side piece actually just told me he was celibate.
What?
Yeah.
And he was.
Yeah.
So now he's celibate.
So I think have you hooked up with him already, though?
Yeah.
So that was kind of awkward.
You turned him celibate.
That's what happened.
No, like he fully told me afterwards that he was read a book and now he's turning celibate.
Like right after that.
What book did he read?
I don't know.
I should ask.
Could you ask him?
I'm very, was it a Bible or something?
I imagine.
I don't think so.
He read a book and now he's celibate?
Yeah, he read a book and he's like, it really changed my perspective on life.
Like, I think I need to be celibate.
And I was like, okay.
Question.
How soon?
Okay, so what was the period of time that elapsed from the last time you hooked up with him and his period of celibacy?
Like, was it the day after you hooked up?
No, it was like when we were putting on our clothes.
Wait, huh?
Like, it was like.
Huh?
It was.
No, it was like literally seconds later.
Like, okay, so hold on.
You have sex.
Yes.
You have sex.
And then he, immediately after sex within like five minutes.
Yes.
Says he's like, oh, I read a book, by the way, and I just like, I'm not going to drink or have sex anymore.
Have sex anymore.
When was this?
Like a week ago?
No, no, no, no.
It was like a month ago.
Oh, a month ago.
He's not really...
Have you hung out with him since?
No.
Oh, so he's off the roster then?
I think he is.
Is he off the roster?
I would say he's off the roster.
What if his celibacy was broken?
Could he come back on the roster?
So you like him?
No.
You don't like him?
I like him for certain reasons.
What are the certain reasons that you like him?
Just for funs.
When you say fun, do you mean sex?
Yeah, just for funs.
But it's unfortunate because he's celibate.
That's kind of unfortunate for you.
I don't know why he's going to be off the roster.
He's off the roster.
Yeah.
Did he still want to kick it with you platonically, friend?
I mean, that was the plan.
But we ran into each other at Goodwill two weeks ago, and he was like super weird with me.
So I was like, maybe not friends.
RN.
So, what?
You don't know the book?
I should have, honestly, I should have asked.
Wait, Madison, did you have a question for her?
No, I was just saying, like, he really just had to get the last fucking before.
No, that's what I thought.
Didn't you know that before he wanted to fuck you?
I don't know, but like that day, he had done all the things that he said he was not going to do because of this book and told me directly after.
It was interesting.
I've never experienced anything like that.
It was so weird.
We need to know what the book is.
Maybe, do you have your phone on you right here?
I do.
Could you just ask him about the book?
I think, you know, maybe the girls can weigh in on this.
Sure.
I think maybe he was over it.
That's kind of a good way to get, right?
Like, I'm celibate.
I don't want to have sex anymore.
That's a good way to get out of a, right?
I mean, like, I would just, I would just rather, like, just not speak again.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, a little ghost?
Like a ghost.
Ghosting is so valid.
Like, if it is.
Like, if you don't like someone anymore, like, you don't need an explanation.
I don't need an explanation of why you don't like me.
Like, I just.
What if he was testing you to see if you would stay?
Oh, no, no, no.
Well, going around the table really quick on this.
Or actually, hold on.
I want to get the relationship status out of the way, so I'll come back to the ghosting.
Is it valid?
I'll ask the table that.
Is it valid?
So, okay, so you got two on the roster, basically.
You had three, but there's two.
But I think the point was, you were seeing three guys at the same time.
Is that.
No, I didn't see that.
You were seeing two of them.
I don't know.
I was...
Okay, okay.
Because you said, wait, hold on.
You said the last time you saw the guy was a month ago.
You've been seeing the main piece for two months.
Yeah.
So you were seeing them at the same time.
And then there's another one who we haven't heard about.
But hold on.
Grid one Motorsports donated $100.
Who took Postnut Clarity to a whole new level?
Oh, wow.
Do you have a response to Grid 1 motor sports?
I don't even know what that means, TBH.
anyways um wait so i could never see i sexually i can only see one person at a time but you said So when I unsexually, when celibacy, when celibacy got cut off, celibacy man.
When celibacy man got cut off, I was sexual with main piece.
Main piece.
Current main piece.
Yeah, I cannot do like the multiple.
talking to them at the same time though maybe not sleeping with them but talking with i was only talking to main piece Only main piece.
Yeah.
The other guy was just a hookup guy.
It wasn't like a relationship type thing.
When I say talking, I mean you.
While you were hooking up with celibacy man, look man.
Yeah.
Were you.
You were talking to Main Piece, but not having sex with him.
Yes.
You were talking to him?
Yes.
Did he.
Okay.
Okay.
Were you mate?
Wait, were you like making him wait?
No.
Main piece.
No, it's just we were getting to know each other.
It just didn't happen.
No, yeah.
We were just getting to know each other and like I genuinely, yeah.
He didn't go for it.
Like, did you ever be like, no, no, no, I want to wait?
No.
Oh.
But we just didn't end up doing that.
It just never.
Okay, okay.
No.
We just like, it, yeah.
No.
Yeah.
What about the third piece?
Third piece is like, um, what do you call it?
He's like coming up.
He's an upcomer.
He's like, he's like, he's like, okay, so Main Piece is going to like die down.
And then this other guy is definitely going to like be in the up and coming race, probably.
Because he's more realistic in terms of like, he has, you know, a good job, comes from a good family, could get me some nice gifts before Christmas vibes.
I don't know.
So he's like better husband material.
Yeah, but I'm, I like.
Sounds like better simp material, to be honest.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You want someone to simp for you?
Yeah.
I feel like when guys simp for me, I find it really unattractive for some reason.
I find it so attractive.
You do?
I feel like after they get to know me, but if they simp for me in the beginning, I think it's so unattractive.
Like it's just because it's like a desperate look.
You know what I mean?
That's just really unattractive.
But once you get to know him, once you're in a relationship and they simp for you, buy you gifts, that I think that's really attractive.
Well, I think there's simping in like a feminine way and then there's like simping in a masculine way.
What is simping in a masculine way?
Like pursuing you, like asking you out on dates, like being bold.
I mean, I think that's interest.
I think there's like a difference between simping and interest.
So true.
Just asking you is just interest.
Okay.
So there's Main Piece that's dying down.
This third guy, he's on the rise.
But you haven't hooked up with him yet?
No.
Because I'm focusing on Main Piece.
I can't do it all.
I can't do it all at the same time.
I'm really busy.
I don't have time to juggle all those things.
Okay.
Sure.
Okay.
Well, we'll come back to the ghosting thing.
What about you?
I'm single/slash talking stage.
Okay, you were on the show like six weeks ago or something?
It was like end of September.
Because you go to UCSB.
It's your freshman first week here.
UCSB, number one party school in the U.S. How, in the six-week period since your last time on the show, have you seen some shit?
Have you been in the trenches in the mean streets of Santa Barbara?
What have you seen?
What have I seen?
Just a party scene.
What do you mean?
That was very underwhelming.
Okay, maybe you've heard some things from your girlfriends.
Have you dated any guys?
Dated?
No.
No guys?
What about guys coming, trying to talk to you at parties, hit on you at parties?
I shut them all down.
You shut them all down?
Do you UCSB again?
Very big party scene.
How often do you go out to party?
Would you say?
Every weekend.
Like Thursday, Friday, Saturday?
No.
Or just Friday, Saturday?
Mostly for me, just Fridays.
But my roommates go out like Thursday, Fridays.
Sometimes do you do both days or just sometimes both days?
Okay.
Do you party?
You go to SBCC, correct?
Okay.
Do you party at all?
We come up here every weekend.
Do you live in IV or?
I live in downtown SB, yeah.
Okay, got it.
You come like, do you go out Friday, Saturday?
Or maybe just one day?
We do like Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Here in IV?
Yeah.
Okay.
But Thursdays we stay local and then Friday, Saturday we come up here.
Like you party somewhere downtown.
Okay, I see.
Got it.
So what's you seeing?
You reject all the dudes that hit on you?
Yeah.
Why?
Because I don't like them.
Are none of them good looking or maybe they're good looking?
No, they're really good looking.
They're really good looking.
Yeah, there are good looking guys everywhere if you go to DP.
Okay.
But, but what?
I don't like guys who party.
You.
Hold on.
You.
You.
Party.
You fucking hypocrite.
You kind of.
You're out there too, so it's like you're out there.
I don't really like partying too much.
I just follow my roommates.
How many guys have approached you since you've like been here in the night life?
Maybe like four or five.
Only four or five?
Yeah.
Jeez.
Is that all?
Four or five?
Four or five's.
I feel like that's a lot.
A lot?
Yeah.
She's been out partying every weekend for six weeks.
That should be in the night.
No, but they all genuinely tried to talk about it.
That should be in the night, huh?
Like, they all genuinely tried to talk about that.
Maybe young guys just don't approach anymore.
Probably because of like dating hypes and shit, but.
Okay.
So you've rejected the four to five guys who've approached you?
That's it?
Yeah.
It's got to be more than that.
No.
I guess young guys don't approach anymore.
Okay.
How'd you meet this new guy?
He replied to one of my stories back in March because he found me through TikTok.
Oh, so he slid into the DMs on IG?
Yeah.
Okay.
Are you guys like dating or not really?
No, I'm single.
Yeah, I've never met him before.
Oh.
I thought he like went to school here.
No, he goes to school in Alabama.
Alabama?
Yeah.
So you've just been like texting him?
Yeah.
What'd he say when he slid into your DMs?
Just about like Kanye and political stuff.
But I think he was in a relationship when he did.
You think what?
I think he was in a relationship.
When he did that?
Yeah.
How do you know that?
I just, I think so.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
You didn't do the hate girly text?
What's that?
The hate girly, like, your boyfriend is hitting on me.
You never heard of that.
No, I never thought of him like that until like a month ago.
Yeah.
Did you hit him up again?
Or did he text you?
What do you mean?
Like since March?
Yeah, since March.
We kept talking once in a while.
Kept talking.
Like, no, no, no, no, not in that way.
Like.
Did you guys talk on the phone?
I think we did like a few times.
You think you did a few times?
Yeah.
Okay.
So are you like interested in dating this guy or are you on the fence?
Yeah, I'm like super down.
You're super down?
Yeah.
Even though he lives in Alabama?
He's flying out.
For how long?
Like four days.
Staying where?
He's got a hotel.
Airbnb.
And then what?
fly back so you have all the you said there's a lot of attractive guys around but so why He's interesting.
He teaches me a lot of things.
Like what?
I can't say.
The fuck?
Yeah, you're going to censor me.
Like, very, like, fascist ideas, I would say.
Fascist ideas?
Is he like a white supremacist?
No, he's a white nationalist.
He likes Nick Fuentes.
Okay.
Are you guys like both?
I do anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What's your ethnicity?
Just checking.
Korean.
Oh.
And you're dating a one.
I'm not dating.
Oh, but you want.
So you're attracted to him because of his racist.
No, he's not racist.
Oh, sorry, so sorry.
You said he's a fascist.
What did you say?
White nationalists?
Don't white nationalists want to deport?
I don't know.
I don't know the details.
Don't they want America to be a 100% white country?
Like, they don't want immigration, they don't want...
Well, I don't know if he agrees with every single, like, white nationalist idea.
Does he consider himself to be white nationalist?
What the fuck?
Yes.
What ideas that are white nationalists that he agrees with?
Should I Google?
I don't know enough about this topic.
You're going to censor me.
Let's see.
Tiffany's chife is white nationalists.
No.
oh my god am i i don't know if this is does he he's really smart Is he a proponent of a white ethnostate?
I don't know if we should.
Because you're Asian.
I don't know how that, you know what I mean.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, how does that work?
I don't know.
Okay.
I think he just doesn't like illegal immigrants.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
You know how to pick him, eh?
it doesn't have to be legal so does he I'm just confused by the whole thing um So he's coming to see you for four days.
Are you guys going to – because you've never had a boyfriend before, if I recall.
Right?
Never had a boyfriend, never even, if I recall, you never had anything with a guy.
No hookup?
Never hooked up with a guy?
No.
Never kissed a guy?
No.
Has that changed?
No.
Come on.
There's a guy.
You made out with a guy on the other side.
No, I didn't.
I'm not like that.
I'm not.
Are you going to make out with Mr. White Nationalist?
Why are you so rude?
How's that rude?
I'm just curious.
That's how you described him.
You probably are.
Yeah.
Chat, what do you think?
I'm curious what chat thinks about this.
Wait, so the last time you were on the show, you weren't talking to him romantically.
It just started.
Yeah, it had just started.
Yeah.
What made it start, I guess?
Like, were you guys both just like, oh, I think I'm into you?
Hey, decoy voices or decoy voices in the chat.
Yo, what's up, man?
We're going to get him on the show sometime.
By the way, Flan Life, thank you for the 10 gifted memberships, man.
Appreciate it.
Go ahead.
He's just really smart, and he's a good speaker.
Wait, is it Nick Fuentes?
No.
What the fuck?
No.
You don't want to, you wouldn't take Nick? No.
He's very, he's a white nationalist.
No.
He's really well spoken.
He's ugly.
Wow.
That's rude.
He's not a bad.
He's a good looking guy.
Jesus Christ, I'm going to get canceled for this conversation.
Brian, we got the white Tupac with hair abandoned on her left slash from GNR.
Check it out.
What is he talking about?
I have no idea what that is.
Which one's the white Tupac?
Which one?
Oh, this is Slash.
That's Slash from GNR.
Do you play guitar?
Mm-mm.
Rip.
Okay, and you're white Tupac for.
I don't know how because of the headband, maybe?
Probably.
Just looking at your, is that a Wu-Tang?
Oh, no.
I thought that was Wu-Tang.
No.
That's like the same font, I think, as the Wu-Tang clan.
Okay, anyways.
That'd be pretty crazy.
That'd be dope.
That'd be so cool.
That'd be super dope.
Okay, so are you trolling?
No.
You're fucking trolling.
No, I'm not.
You're for sure trolling.
No, I'm not.
I swear to God.
Why?
Scroll.
Alright.
I'm just kind of confused by the whole.
What's confusing?
Like, from a purely, like, okay.
There's plenty of men in Santa Barbara, so it's like.
I like very specific people.
Really specific people?
Yeah.
Such as.
Racists.
He's not racist.
Also, I think everyone's a little racist.
I agree.
Sometimes people have to be honest and say, I'm racist.
Tell us who you're racist against.
Are you racist?
Who are you racist?
Say it when you're raising.
Who are you racist against?
So me and the guy, his name is Brent.
Oh.
We were talking about this, and if you're not attracted to certain races, that's like 100% connected to racism.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
No, it's hard.
It's definitely not.
Harmful stereotypes.
No.
Wait, I'm confused.
So are you trying to say that I'm, hold on.
You didn't really answer my question, but.
What question?
My question.
Okay, so I asked you, how are you racist?
Which race are you racist against?
You said you're a little bit racist, right?
You said everyone's a little racist.
How are you racist?
Well.
Well, the definition of racism is judging based on skin color, right?
I think everyone does that to a certain extent.
How does that manifest for you?
Like, just out on the streets, when I see a person, I'm just.
What race of person?
Like, so, like, a few weeks ago, I was stranded in the middle of a freeway, and these two white guys, like, pulled over to give me a ride.
If they were black, I probably wouldn't have gotten in.
That might be a little racist?
That's valid.
If I was a chick, I don't know if I would get in the middle of the day.
I don't think I'm getting in the car with anything.
Two random.
Hold on.
Your car broke down on the highway.
No, I. What's the story?
I got off on the wrong stop.
Wait, what?
What?
So I was supposed to get off in the second roundabout in UCSB, but I didn't.
And then the bus was going to downtown SB, so I was like panicking.
And then I just pulled the stop request thing.
You pulled the what?
The string, like the stop request.
So they dropped you off on the side of the highway.
Yeah.
Side of the highway?
Yeah.
Why didn't you just go to downtown SB?
That probably would have been a little safer.
Because I had to be somewhere.
Okay.
Yeah.
What's so funny?
You just have funny stories.
I don't know.
I know stories.
So you got a ride from the two white people?
Yeah.
They go to SBCC.
Holy fuck.
Yeah, that's probably a little racist.
Definitely.
What do you think?
Every girl would have done the same thing.
I mean, I don't think it's valid, right?
But not to like that race, but I am racist in certain ways.
Gee, what is going on with this fucking panel?
Holy shit.
But the thing is, a lot of people lie about it.
You are right.
Like, you're actually one of the first people that's just straight up about it.
Yeah.
We're giving racism a blanket definition.
What do you think of white people?
What do you mean?
Like, just what do you think of white people?
Like, what personality is that?
Do you like them?
Do you really like them?
What the fuck?
Yeah, I like them.
It depends, though.
Because there's a lot of woke white people, too.
Okay, I see.
I see what you're saying.
All right.
Okay, she's honest.
All right, you can't falter for that.
I don't think it's racist to not be attracted to a certain like.
No, I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that's racist.
That's just a preference.
Yeah.
You can't, you know, if you're attracted to, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, for example, Madison over here is deeply racist.
She doesn't date Asian people.
That's not actually kind of like a person.
Why would it be racist?
Well, being racist isn't a bad thing.
Like, don't take it as an insult.
I'm not taking it as an insult.
I'm just asking you why it would be racist to not date someone in your own house.
Why do you not date Asian guys?
Because I have a preference for others.
But why, though?
I don't know.
I'm just not attracted to them.
It's like me saying I do not like short guys.
It's the same thing as me saying I don't like Asian guys.
No, but if it's race, it's different.
Just like the white guys and the black guys, you wouldn't have gotten in if they were black guys.
It's the same exact thing.
Well, I don't think Asian guys.
Let me just come in really quick.
Actually, go ahead and make your point.
Then I'll hold it.
No, never mind.
The views expressed by the panelists on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the host or the podcast or the YouTube channel.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's, yeah, all right.
Disavow, disavow, disavow, disavow.
Moving on, moving on.
So, okay, we went over your, okay.
What about you?
I'm recently single, and the longest relationship I was in was for three years.
Can you speak up a little bit?
I'm recently single, and the longest relationship I was in was for three years.
How recently single?
Broke up with him Friday.
On Friday?
Yes.
Okay.
So, Saturday.
Two days ago.
And was this your longest relationship?
No, so I was seeing this guy from August up until Friday.
What happened?
I caught him on Hinge.
Yeah.
Caught him on Hinge?
Yes.
And it was at the point, like, I was seeing his family and everything, like, met the family, been going to his house and stuff.
So.
Good times.
Yeah.
Did he ever physically cheat on you?
I don't think he actually slept with anyone because he worked three jobs.
He really didn't have time.
But he was definitely on Hinge matching with people.
He matched with some of my friends.
Got the screenshots and then I was just hating.
You started dating him in August, correct?
August, September, October, three months together.
Well, how late?
When did you start dating in August?
Late August, mid-August?
Towards the end of August.
So two months you were together.
When you say you started dating, like you met him in late August?
Yes.
Did you guys have a conversation about exclusivity?
Actually, the first date.
First date.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
When I meet guys, I tell them the first date.
Hey, look, I'm only interested in marriage and having children.
So if that's not something you want, don't bother wasting your time with me.
And he was also on the same page.
He's Catholic.
He's also religious.
He wants that stuff.
Sure.
So we came to an agreement.
We had an understanding.
Like, hey, we're just going to see each other.
And I wasn't seeing anybody, but.
Okay.
Yeah.
Are you waiting until marriage?
No.
So that ship has already sailed.
I can't really go back on that.
But I would have done it differently if I could.
Okay.
Were you guys waiting?
No.
No.
Okay.
All right.
Damn.
That's fresh.
Okay, Friday.
So how did you break up with him?
In person?
Text?
Well, I had some stuff at his house, so I called him.
I said, hey, do you still have my stuff?
Can I come pick it up?
And he was like, wow, like, is everything okay?
I said, yeah, we had a discussion, and I'm not going to talk about it again.
So I'm just going to come get my stuff.
And when I got there, I was just like, hey, really?
And he's like, what?
And I was like, you're still on Hinge.
And he tried to lie and he tried to say no.
And I was like, you're active today.
Let me pull it up.
Did you find out because of your friends?
Like, did they send you the screenshots?
Or how did you find out?
So I had a gut feeling.
Literally Friday night, I went to the gym.
Afterwards, I had this gut feeling.
I went to my friend's house.
I used her phone, made a fake hinge, and then he was like the third card in the stack that popped up.
And I was like, yeah, hello.
Girls in their gut feelings.
Yes.
It's okay.
I'll help you find a nice man.
A good one.
One that preferably wants marriage.
Tiffany, can you wear this for the rest of the show?
Why me?
It's like a Prussian military helmet, so I feel like given what you've stated, it's oh.
What I stated were valid.
Is it like not here?
Give it.
I'll fix it.
Good talk.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, that's why I gotta undo this.
Hold on.
Okay, wow.
Madison, your relationship status.
My current relationship is my longest relationship, and it's been a year and two months.
All right.
Good times.
Good times.
So let's go back to ghosting is valid.
That was you, right?
Did you say that?
Ghosting is valid.
Yeah.
What does everybody think about that?
And let's define, like, so ghosting, let's say you, when you say ghosting, do you mean like you've been dating somebody, you've hooked up with them maybe multiple times, a couple months.
Do you, in that instance, do you think like ghosting is valid even then?
No.
I think I think when is ghosting valid when it's like street related I feel like what does that mean like Like streets.
Like if it's like if it's like little, just like hookup random type thing, like ghosting's fine.
Sure.
I don't know.
I think that's valid.
Okay.
What does everyone else here think?
I agree.
No, I think it's valid, but if it's like a serious relationship, I think you owe it to them to tell them something.
That would be weird if you like ghosted someone you were seeing.
That would be weird.
I'm not saying that's valid.
I mean, I feel like if you're in a little, it could be a hookup or whatever, you never really know what each other are feeling.
So for some people, it could be.
Oh my god.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, so sisters, sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
You're fine.
You're fine.
Go ahead.
For some people, I feel like it could be valid, but at the same time, if feelings aren't discussed within the two of you, I don't think ghosting is valid.
I feel like you owe an explanation a little bit.
I don't know.
I feel like if feelings are expressed and it's like a mutual, like, oh, we both have feelings for each other, and then you ghost, that's like weird.
But like, if you guys are like undefined and, you know, I feel like there's a certain like time period.
Like if it's like someone you've been seeing for maybe like two weeks or something, then it's like, you know.
Yeah.
I would say ghosting is pretty normal though nowadays.
Like if you're if you just have like a one-night stand with someone, that's I guess basically ghosting.
Totally.
Yeah.
I'm not for ghosting at all.
How do you guys feel about like one night stands?
Degenerate.
Uh-huh.
You're about to have a one-night stand with the fucking Alabama, dude.
He's coming to see you for four.
Are you?
Do you think you're going to smash?
No.
That's so weird.
The first time I'm meeting him.
I mean.
That happens.
Hell no.
Is that his intentions?
Do you think he's like, is he?
Do you think he's DTF?
Like, if given the opportunity.
Yo, AB check, thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
Thank you, man.
Is he waiting until marriage?
Because you said he had a girlfriend while he was talking to you, so.
He wasn't really talking to me.
He slid into your DMs.
Well, we had a mutual interest in like Yay 24.
No, yay 24.
Yay 24?
Yeah.
Are you going to be on the campaign trail for Kanye?
Well, Kanye's not running anymore.
Oh, you dropped out.
I thought he was.
Okay, I didn't know about that.
Okay, cool.
What was this?
So do you think you're going to like smash, though?
I said no.
Are you waiting until marriage?
Sort of.
But not really.
But sort of, but not really.
But kind of.
have to know like know for sure that I'm marrying that person but like it doesn't have to be like we don't have to be married officially It's like at what point do you determine that?
Maybe, like, three months after it's, like, official.
I don't know, because people could be...
What's so funny?
People could be in year-long relationships and they still don't get married.
So it's like, it's just when do you know that you want to.
I just know.
I trust myself and my own judgment.
I feel like she's going to fuck the dude.
Shut the fuck up.
I'm going to fuck him for sure.
I'm not.
Oh, come into my dorm room.
Get out of here, Jillian.
You have to bring her up.
Bring up what?
Jillian?
Yes.
For real.
She's your roommate.
Yeah.
She was on the show too a while ago.
She was going to be on here, but she has pink eye.
She has pink eye.
Was that from a dude too?
Did she get pink eye from a dude?
We don't know.
It's probably from her sorority house.
She's in the sorority?
Yeah.
All my roommates are in sorority house.
How do you get?
How do you get pink eye?
Did you fart on her pillow?
I don't know.
Could have been from a dude.
That happens.
Okay, all right.
She doesn't know about that.
Okay.
All right.
Ask a doctor.
Why me?
Good talk.
Okay, so I have some pre-show notes I want to get through.
Actually, let me hold on.
Let me see here what we have.
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Donated 400.
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Holy shit.
Ex Scientific for 19th.
So that's Lauren Roses.
She's been dropping a couple donuts.
Thank you.
She's going to be back on the 19th.
We're going to do a courtesan dedicated panel.
So be sure to tune in on the 19th and catch Lauren again.
So, and then we had a super chat.
Let me get that one.
Can you read this one for us?
Me?
Yeah.
Can you read this?
Corey boyfriend is probably just white and likes this country.
So he says he's Nat and she things a Nat white guy equals white Nat, which is a separate racist ideology.
She's dim.
Do you have a response?
I have no idea what he's talking about.
White nationalist.
Jesus Christ.
Well, I know, but like, what's dim?
Not very dim, like, not very bright.
Oh, oh.
It's an insult.
Well, first of all, he's not my boyfriend yet, so.
Not yet.
That's why, and like, considering it's.
You don't need to keep it.
We already read it, so.
You're reading it again?
Okay.
To myself.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see here.
You think you're going to pursue a committed relationship with him?
Yeah.
Potentially.
Well, he's going to pursue me.
I'm not pursuing him.
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Question for the ladies.
Does peen size matter?
Do you have a peen size preference?
Also, as Brian's official wingman, do any of you girls have an Audi?
Large lady.
I think so.
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So the question is, does peen.
Does peen size matter?
Do you have a peen size preference?
Bro, you make me ask.
As Brian's official wingman, do any of you girls have an Audi?
If you want, you can answer it.
You don't have to.
Okay.
Go ahead.
I think it's like the motion of the ocean, but also if you have a shrimp, it's not going to work.
Shrimp.
That's this?
Like, yeah.
That's this shrimp.
That's like this.
That's not good enough?
No, what?
You think this is going to do anything?
I mean, you said the motion of the ocean.
But I said if you have a shrimp, it's just not going to work.
What if it's like super girthy?
Like, what if it's a choad?
Most girthy, like a, oh, like a chod?
Like a chod.
I don't like those.
Okay.
I just don't like those.
So it does matter.
Yeah, it does.
Okay.
All right.
I think it does matter, but I think there's like more important stuff.
So if they're able to compensate, like there's different categories I think of, like, you know, like personality, you know, how are they looking?
You know, fun times, you know, different categories.
If they're able to like balance that.
Okay.
What about you?
Me personally, I don't give a fuck.
I don't know.
You don't give a fuck?
Yeah, I don't know.
So you'd be fine getting railed by a shrimp?
Well, I'm not a very sexual person, so it's just I don't care.
Me personally.
This is offensive.
We shouldn't call it a shrimp.
I don't like the shrimp.
I don't like the shrimp.
Can you just say pickles are bigger than that?
Cucumber is nice.
A Cheeto?
Cheeto?
We'll call it what it is, a pinky.
A Cheeto puff.
Yeah.
Cheeto puff.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the pinky is like the middle finger in like some part of the world if I'm not wrong, but I don't know what it is.
I feel like women are way too comfortable shaming men, like if they have like a small peen.
It's not nice.
It's not nice.
Why is it not nice?
To shame men for the way they were born.
We're not shaming, we're just stating our preferences.
I actually think it's fine to shame men for their small peen size, for whatever.
Bring it to me.
That's totally fine to shame men.
But it's out of their control.
Do you think we should shipping it?
What do you mean?
Of course I'm right.
You can't shame, but you can't change your penis size.
That's just the way you were born.
I mean, yeah, you can compensate for that.
Here, do you think we should shame women if they have small boobs?
Yeah.
Why not?
I mean, what?
You can't control that, why wouldn't you?
I mean, it's okay if you shame someone.
It's okay if you shame someone for something, you know.
Okay.
I think the world nowadays, society, is so sensitive that you can't say anything that you will get canceled.
Oh, so you're like free speech?
I'm like free speech.
Just like you're racist, like in free speech about it.
I'm saying like free speech.
Okay.
But no, no, I don't think it's right to shame people.
Like be rude, like, but it's right to shame based off your preferences.
So if I'm like, I do not want small penis, or if you're like, I don't like girls with small boobs, that's totally fine.
You're technically shaming, but not like...
No, I don't think that's shaming.
Shaming would like be almost to some degree making fun of a person.
Yeah.
I think for men it's okay to bully though.
It's okay that wait hold on just a quick point of clarification you You think it's okay to bully men, but not okay to bully women?
To an extent, yes, because women are more sensitive.
That's interesting.
Because, yeah, actually, yeah, that's why.
I agree.
That's such a double standard.
But do you want to know why it is?
Because when you shame men, that's when they work more on themselves.
Like, if you bully a guy, he's going to be like, you know what?
I disagree with that.
Is it what?
Does it not go the other way, though?
Like, if you shame a woman, don't you think she would work on herself as well?
She would, yeah.
But I'm talking about men.
I think, because I personally, like, will shame men.
If my boyfriend does something that I don't like, I will tell him.
Or if I see someone...
I think, well, let's get our definitions correct here.
Okay, okay, let's do it.
If your boyfriend does something wrong, there's a, like.
Like you're going to call it out.
I'm going to call it out.
Our definition of shaming is different.
I think yeah my definition of shaming I think it's judging what I don't mean like shame but I like judging like Like judging.
And not in a toxic way.
Madison farted.
No, Madison fucking farted.
It feels so bad.
I have to step out for like one to actually fart it.
No, no, no.
Fart.
Madison literally fucking farted.
I literally don't fart us, Frankie.
I never fart.
Oh my God.
I smelled it too, Madison.
What the fuck?
She ate a burrito.
She ate a fucking burrito.
It was Brian.
Okay, hold on.
were we talking about?
We were talking about You're going to get definitions.
Definitions?
Yeah.
Of like shaming.
Yeah.
So having a conversation with your boyfriend, like, oh, here's something that's upsetting me.
That's not within the realm of shaming.
Okay, yeah.
Well, you're right.
That's just having a civil conversation.
Yeah.
I mean, here, I'll Google the ad just to get the...
Shaming, well, my definition of shaming is that if my brother's getting fat, I will shame him for it.
And I will say, you're getting fat.
You need to lose weight.
Okay.
That's what I mean.
That's constructive criticism.
Exactly.
But that's not shaming to me.
I think there's a difference between communicating what your preferences are versus like shaming with your face.
So what's the Google definition?
I don't know.
Well, the Google definition, make someone feel ashamed.
That's not really fucking helpful.
No, that's exactly.
That proves her point.
So bring shame to cause someone to feel ashamed or inadequate by outdoing or surpassing them.
Can I get the, let me find Oxford.
Maybe they got something better for me.
Shaming.
Cause somebody to feel ashamed.
That's like kind of a circular definition.
What does ashamed mean?
be embarrassed or guilty because of one's actions, characteristics, or associations.
So to make someone feel embarrassed or guilty for their Okay.
All right.
Okay.
That's.
There's ways to bait the point across without making them feel embarrassed or guilty.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
I don't want.
But so you think you should shame men for like things that are out of their control, like their penis size?
See, like, let's say it's, like, my brother or someone I'm close to.
If they're, like, getting fat or they're doing something that's...
No, no, no, but let's stick to the penis size thing.
Okay.
Okay, the pen size, well.
Should we shame men for that?
I think she's saying like everyone should feel free to call it out or like it should feel free.
Well, no, here's the thing is like I don't that no I mean yeah it's okay.
It's like shaming women who do OF and calling them that's a choice though.
Doing OF is a choice whereas your penis size is out of your control as a man.
Do you think that you should control it?
I mean it is a little bit no you can't change it but you can compensate it for other things.
So you can compensate your status.
Right but the question is do you think you should shame men for their penis size?
I mean I don't think it's bad.
I think it's okay.
I don't really I've only been with one person so do you think you think it would be okay to make fun of a man who was small in the bulge?
That would be shameful.
I think it'd be funny.
You'd think it'd be funny.
I think it would be funny.
That's rather toxic, don't you think?
No, I think but what benefit would that serve?
Because your whole argument is, well, I think shaming is good because it will motivate people to change.
Let me switch that.
You cannot change the way you were born.
Go ahead, switch your argument.
I think shaming them on things they can change is good.
But you literally just said it's okay to shame.
I know you're switching the argument.
I'm switching it right now.
So you're switching your position?
I'm switching my position, yes.
I think shaming men on things that they can change is great.
I think shaming them on things that they can't is just good to bring yourself a laugh.
Not to be rude, but.
And make them insecure.
And make them insecure.
Ultimately.
Do you think that's a good thing?
I think to an extent, I think.
You think it's a good thing to make men insecure about something that's not?
Not at all.
That's literally what you just said.
But a man should be like so, he should respect himself enough to not let what I say or what anyone else say.
See, women have this privilege of like being able to talk shingle shit about men without really any repercussion when it comes to violence.
But for example, if I walked up to a guy who was six foot five, who was 300 pounds, I'm six foot one, I'm like 180.
And I start calling that guy a pussy, I should expect to get fucking hit.
The difference with y'all is you think you can run your mouth to a man, and it's actually true, and not get hit.
Because you have societal protection when it comes to physical violence.
Now, I'm not saying that anybody should hit somebody for words that come out of their mouth.
However, like, I can't be upset if I walk up to a guy who's 6'5 and call him a pussy to his face and expect that he there's a zero possibility for him to hit me.
Now, I'm not saying that there should be physical violence, but you think, like, I'm trying to understand why you think it's funny or okay to make fun of somebody.
Especially something that's out of their control.
Well, no, like I said, it is like, it brings you laughter, but I think if it's not out of their control.
Why does it bring you laughter, though?
I don't know.
It's just funny.
But don't you recognize that perhaps this is a source of insecurity for a lot of men, and shouldn't you have a bit of compassion and empathy?
Like, I've never actually made fun of someone.
Is this the hill you're trying to die on right now?
This is what?
Go ahead, continue.
Go ahead.
I've never made fun of someone's pen size, actually.
Shrimp, using but I do use that as like shrimp and pinky and pickle as small.
But you think it's okay to okay, it's okay to what?
To shame people for things that are outside their control.
No, actually, I know you don't walk back, don't walk back yourself.
No, I said it's not okay, but I think it's funny sometimes.
True, it's funny sometimes, just like it's not okay, but I'm still gonna do it.
It's funny personally, I don't think it's funny, I think it's just insure and it makes the conversation very uncomfortable for people.
I have a question for you both sides.
Would you think it's funny, and how would you feel if men shamed you for being loose?
For being loose, yeah.
Well, I think that's pretty confident in myself.
So, if a man told me something and I knew I wasn't it in my head, I would go in through one ear and out the other.
So, it wouldn't really hit me.
But what if you are it in your head and it like physically?
Because when guys have small peen sizes or whatever, like it's not that it's just in their head that they have a small pen size, they actually physically have it.
Yeah, yeah, so that's the difference.
I guess, I mean, I could try to become more have more empathy for this, but I don't know.
I just that's basically it, yeah.
I think it's a little morally questionable, but that's just me.
Well, I, yeah, I don't have a small peen, or so I wouldn't know how it feels, but I'm sure it feels bad so I'm because like you often hear like these terms thrown around, like big dick energy, small dick energy, etc.
And it's used like to typically not even as necessarily a reference of someone's penis size, although it's quite literally in the whole.
Grid one motorsports donated $100.
The Robert Hainlin darling, a true lady takes her modesty off with her clothes and does her whoreish best.
At all other times, she should be as modest as her persona demands.
Can we get the panel's opinion on this?
Uh, true lady takes her modesty off with her clothes and does her whoresh all of the time.
So, she should.
I mean, I don't know.
Do you have a response really quick?
I think he's trying to say, like, a true lady is always modest on the outside, but when it comes to inside the bed, is when she becomes the most whorish.
I don't know, it's a little confusing to me.
Yeah, it's kind of confusing to me too, but I don't even know what that means.
Yeah, I don't understand.
Sorry, man, that was a little okay.
Um, so like you hear these terms, big dick energy, small dick energy.
Um, have who here has used that term before?
Have you used it?
No, small dick energy, big dick energy.
I use like big dick energy, like just not relating to actual dick size or anything.
Like, I use it, like, oh, like, that girl got big dick energy.
Like, you know what I mean?
What about you?
Yeah, which one?
Both?
Small dick, big dick energy?
Yeah.
Like, that guy has small dick energy.
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
No, I don't.
Did you answer?
Yeah.
Do you use it?
I'm just like, for myself, like, I feel like I have big dick energy.
Do you?
Yeah.
You got.
Okay.
See, because even though your intention might not be to, but you're saying that men or people or a person, whether it's a woman or a man, if they have positive characteristics, they must have a big dick.
Ergo, men who have small dicks, have negative characteristics.
However, there are plenty of perfectly wonderful men who have small penises and awful, terrible men who have big penises.
So you're using this language.
I mean, are we all about body positivity?
People are against body shaming, all this shit, right?
I'd like to propose some new terms.
If big dick energy, small dick energy are okay.
I'd like to propose some new terms.
Small tits energy, smelly pussy energy.
I'd be fine with that.
Hold on, I got more.
There's more.
Rancid pussy energy, stinky pussy energy, noxious pussy energy, cottage cheese pussy energy, dry pussy energy, Sahara desert pussy energy, wet pussy energy, I guess that's a good one, parched pussy energy, arid pussy energy, and drought pussy energy.
That's funny.
If I were to say any of these, these are like, would be deemed very offensive, I feel like.
But it's okay for women to say big dick energy, small dick energy, but if I want to throw around loose pussy energy all of a sudden, I'm the bad guy.
I would think it's funny.
But most women, let me ask, most women would not be, most women would be like, ugh, they'd kind of like, ooh, that's kind of vulgar.
Loose pussy energy.
You said it about other people.
Yeah, well, you're weird, okay?
Like, think of the normal woman.
Okay, I'm weird.
Come on, admit it.
You're a little weird.
I know.
You know you're weird.
Go ahead, huh?
Grid one motorsports donated $100.
Fuck's sake.
Get an education.
The Persian had it right.
Can you be modest in pupil, kinder beast in bed, or are you a dead fish because the man must do all the work or have a big bean?
Oh my god.
And look slash shack like a 304 in public.
Well, grid one, thank you very much for the clarification there.
Much appreciated.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I mean, what's the saying?
I mean, lady in the streets freaking the sheets, you know?
Yeah, it's all good.
Brian, did you want to finish going around on that elicited chat about peen size?
Oh, yeah, sure.
I think we left.
Were we on you?
I think you answered.
You said you didn't care.
Okay, what about you?
Yeah, I do think it matters, unfortunately.
Not asking for like a lot, but like it's there's a limit where it doesn't work.
Sorry, hold on.
ZachQuest 2000 donated $99.
That's not valid.
Cunty energy.
I feel like if you were to lose pussy energy, like you say that, most girls would be like...
That's so funny, though.
I would argue most girls, most girls who would be okay with small and who say small dick energy, big dick energy, would take serious quarrel with loose pussy energy.
For sure.
For sure.
Oh, sorry, hold on.
Did someone say LPE?
Oh, shit.
There he is.
The panel is a bunch of LPEs, especially the girl across from Brian.
Also, Brian, get the Lysol.
Maddie's sharded.
Didn't wipe.
Hashtag nasty, hashtag fuck y'all, hashtag that.
Okay, interesting.
I smell great, by the way.
It was Brian.
You were saying?
What were you saying?
I forgot.
Peen size.
We're talking about peen size.
I mean, I've never tried it before, so I don't know, but like, as long as it's not tiny, I guess.
Okay.
What about you?
I think to an extent it does.
Something that I like to focus on, or sure.
The first thing I look forward.
What, Nick, what's up?
Well, she's talking very fucking low, so.
Nick, what's the deal?
Are you boosted?
Please.
I didn't boost it.
People are saying her.
Here, can you talk into the mic, please?
Is this better?
No.
Can you project your voice a little bit, please?
Is this better?
Can you guys hear her?
Has it been off the entire time?
No, it hasn't.
Guys, can you clarify?
Has her mic been off the entire time?
Has it been off the entire time or it just stopped right now?
One in the chat if it was off the entire time.
Brian, I think it was sliding nine.
What do you think?
Um.
Hold on.
Um.
Sorry, guys.
Um, Maddie, can you get her nine and then we'll put that one on the ground?
Mute that one.
Um typical.
Sorry guys, we're getting her a new mic.
Nick, make sure you drop it and then swap.
Nine is uh actually get just take 11, I think.
Or actually, no.
That's 12.
Sorry, guys, hold on.
This one might be the easiest to go.
Do you guys want to talk about that?
Just what your preferences for size.
Hold on.
Sorry.
Do you guys want to talk while we're just talking amongst ourselves a little bit?
What's your preference?
Which one?
She doesn't have a mic.
Hello?
Sorry.
Oh, my God, bro.
What's your preference?
She don't.
Five.
Is that like average?
I think six is average.
Six is average.
Wait, do you mind if I ask you what like main ones?
What?
Main ones?
Which out of all three ones, like which ones are the best?
I didn't have.
I've like I've only been with like four people in my lifetime.
Like I'm not like I'm like I'm saying like I just got out of this.
Like I'm just getting in the streets, getting like I've had a boyfriend.
I've only like done things with boyfriends and this is like the only time in my life where like I'm doing things with like situations.
I had like a roster.
So I was asking out of the roster which one's the best?
Oh okay.
Out of the I mean when you have a boyfriend for like three and a half years they kind of just get to know your body.
Okay that makes sense.
You know and also too like your women's like in I don't know like what the terminology is but like it adapts to like your partner.
Yeah.
Like I'm pretty sure like it changes like to adapt to your partner.
Yeah.
I mean like I don't know but it definitely changes but I don't know.
I don't think I've been with a really small one before but it's you don't feel it so I don't count it.
I don't be counting that.
How do you guys feel about larger?
That's where you're down to some other because I feel like I hear a lot of people say like too small is or like too small is not good but too big is not good.
I feel like you got a bunch of size queens at this table.
Let's see here.
Okay.
Well actually really quick back on your thing when it comes to like it's good to shame people.
What do you about what do you think about shaming men for their height?
Like if a guy's short, do you think we should shame them for being short?
No, he can just get those insoles and wear them in his shoes.
But I don't think you should shame him.
Oh.
Well see are you walking back your position because I'm pushing back against you?
No not at all.
Because your previous position was we should shame these people for their immutable characteristics and it's funny.
But I said things that they cannot shame.
Wait, speak to you.
Things that they can't change shouldn't be shamed on.
But they are funny if you do.
So is it funny to shame short guys?
Yes.
I think, I mean, I don't find it funny personally.
I don't really give a f I don't give a shit.
You think it's funny to shame short guys?
Yeah, I think it's funny to shame everyone.
You're an interesting character.
You chase what you, I mean, you, like, attract what you...
Do you know, like, that's, so you think we should shame short guys?
No, but it's not.
Bro, do the words.
Do words mean nothing to you?
Words literally came out of your mouth, and then two seconds later, you say the exact opposite thing, but go ahead.
It's morally wrong, but it's not going to stop me from shaming people.
Like, it's still funny.
You've shamed a short guys before?
Yes, yes, but only if...
i'm not gonna just shame short guys for being short it's like if they're doing something that that's pissing me off i'm gonna use that like his height to what if it's just a perfectly nice short guy who hasn't said anything mean to you Oh, then I'm not going to shame him.
But, okay.
Yeah.
If I don't like him and he's short, I'm going to use that against him.
Okay, but...
Yeah.
Even there's like this.
there's definitely people who will shame short men uh even if they they'll just it's just almost a blanket general oh i'm not like that contempt or disdain for short men I think that's wrong.
Like a lot of women be like, I have a kind of toxic approach to that.
I'm not like that.
I think you're walking back your position a little bit because you sense I'm going to push back against you.
No, I'm not.
She just.
Okay, so you think it'd be funny?
Yeah.
It's.
It's funny.
Oh my god, bro.
Okay.
Making fun of people is funny.
Sometimes you just have to admit it.
I try not to make fun of people.
What's your humor?
What's my humor?
Yeah.
What do you, I mean, how do you articulate what someone's humor is?
My humor is making fun of other people.
I mean, there's like roasting, like roasting your friends in good spirits, but like total strangers.
No, I don't.
I don't.
I try not to.
I don't.
Certainly behind someone's back, I never talk poorly.
At least I try to not talk poorly about anybody.
That's my personal philosophy.
I'm not making fun of people who are close to me, like my circle.
I just make fun of people I see on the streets.
Do you like when people make fun of you?
No, but I wouldn't care.
I feel like if you had...
I think people should just say whatever they want, to be honest.
She makes...
Speak your mind.
Like, for example, you see somebody walking down the street, you don't know them.
What's something you might make fun of them about?
Probably colored hair, piercings.
Okay.
Looking poor and dirty.
You see a girl with red hair.
What do you say?
What do you say?
The F-word.
Are you a hater?
Wait, what F-word?
Like, you yell it out?
No, no, no, no.
I'll just like whisper it to my friend or something.
That's rude.
Okay, we're just coming.
I think it's funny.
It's basic as fuck.
Okay.
We have a super chat.
This girl is very healthy, like very not toxic at all, by the way.
Healthy.
Yeah.
I am healthy.
You're definitely not toxic.
Okay.
I'm just funny and honest.
Gavin Mayo, what is all your ideal types?
Nila's boyfriend is very lucky.
BTW's.
BTW.
Who's Nila?
Me.
Right there.
What is all your ideal types?
What's everyone's types?
Let's do that.
And then what I want to do, I have the pre-show notes for everybody.
We'll get into the pre-show notes right after that.
Oh, we got this one coming.
I got a question for all the ladies.
Why did everyone except Neela put no effort into their appearance?
I mean, I didn't dress up for a job interview.
That's just my take.
I think they all look beautiful.
Let's see what you look like.
Layla.
I think that's a woman's name.
I know.
She's misogynistic.
She's misogynistic?
Yeah.
You love the buzzwords.
How's she misogynistic?
I'm just kidding.
She's just a hater.
I love this fucking girl.
She's just funny and honest.
Wait, Layla, can you send us...
Let's see what she looks like.
Layla, what's your Instagram?
We'll pull up your Instagram because the girls, she wants to talk shit and call you the F-word, okay?
No, I never said that.
What's that?
I never said that.
I don't know what she looks like.
Okay.
What if she has red hair?
Yeah, what if she has red hair?
Depends on what type of red hair.
If it's like black at the roots and like red at the bottom, yeah.
Okay.
That's so special.
But if it's like all red and it's like, it looks good, then no.
Would you ever like, let's say you had power of a country, not the U.S., because I don't think that's in the cards for you.
Let's say like Grenada.
No, not Grenada.
Let's say like Haiti.
I don't know how you get control of Haiti, but you're a dictator.
Yeah.
I kind of get the impression that you would like genocide the population.
Do you know, like, I get that genocidal vibe from you?
I get that.
Do you get that too, Madison?
Genocidal vibe?
What does that mean?
Like you're on some, I was about to say something inappropriate.
I feel like if she had the option.
She would abolish everyone in the world, so it's just her alive.
And her Alabama boyfriend.
who's definitely not gonna okay never mind This is definitely not what?
Don't worry about it.
It's all good.
Good talk.
Okay, okay, okay.
Layla, send us another.
Send us your Instagram.
We'll take a look in the chat.
What's everyone's ideal types?
We'll go around the table on that.
Go ahead.
That's my boyfriend.
Oh, Gavin Mayo?
Yeah.
Yo, what's up, Gavin?
Yo, is that his car?
Is that his blue?
Is that Ferrari?
No, he has a blue urus.
But that's not his.
Okay.
But my ideal type is tall, white.
Okay.
Yeah, tall and white.
That's it?
Yeah.
What's your ethnicity or whatever?
Can you guess?
Persian?
Yeah, I'm Persian.
Are you Persian Jews?
I'm Persians.
Oh, look at this.
It's the family reunion.
Is that kind of offensive?
I don't know.
No.
Is there solidarity among Iranians?
No.
Is there like a, you know, like, oh, the homie.
Oh, well, personally, when I meet someone Persian, like, they're automatically family.
Do you not?
You don't.
Like, let's say someone, God forbid, pulled in here with a gun.
I would protect her first because she's Persian.
Okay.
That's good to know.
Good to know.
Do you have a piece on you?
Oh, wait.
Peace?
No?
I got these pieces?
No, I don't.
Oh, okay.
You got scared.
Yeah, I definitely think there's like.
Wait, so okay.
So your type is white and tall.
White and tall and successful.
And successful.
Yeah.
Anything else?
Has to believe in God.
Anything else?
Are you Christian?
Christian and Muslim.
75% Muslim and 25% Christian.
It's interesting.
Is that a religious?
How are you 25% religiously Christian?
But you want to move on or do you want the longer race?
Or are you saying like in your lineage?
You're like, what is this?
Well, that too, yeah.
Maybe if she said Jewish, it would have made sense.
No, no, not Jewish.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Oh.
What's your type, I guess?
Just going back to what she was saying earlier, though, within the Persian community, yes, I do believe there's a close-net relationship.
We do have that, but I will also say Persians are very judgmental.
So I think that's very good to point out.
Just from my experience, I don't know.
Even within my parents or anybody else within the family, it's a very kind of like a culture.
Oh, we got a whiskey squirrel donated one.
Thank you.
If you can't make fun of yourself, you don't deserve to make fun of anyone else.
I'm short with a pencil eraser peen, but have enough self-respect to not even want to touch most of the panel.
Boom, roasted.
All right, whiskey squirrel.
Thank God.
I feel like very traditional parents in general are pretty judgmental.
Yeah, because.
Yeah.
Are your parents racist?
Yeah, a lot of Asian, actually, like all Asian parents are racist.
Oh, hold on.
Grid one motorsports donated $100.
Brian, honestly, other than Mads and the slick Persian panels like it's laundry day and the other half looks like they are smoked out.
Not even sure Alibaba slash is awake.
Alibaba slash is awake.
Alibaba.
Oh, who is that?
I think they're talking about you.
Do you know Slash from GNR Guns N' Roses?
Doo-doo-doo.
Wait, do you know anyone?
No.
No.
Sweet child of mine.
No, you don't know?
Welcome to the jungle.
What?
November rain?
No.
What kind of music do you listen to?
You don't know.
Wait, you don't know GNR?
Little peep.
Little peep.
Do you know GNR?
Little peeps.
No.
You don't know Guns N' Roses?
No.
Sweet child of mine, Paradise City.
Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty.
Is that like your era music?
My era music?
Yeah.
I mean, that came out like 89 was the peak of GNR, so no, I was not really, but GNR is the shit.
Oh, won't you take me home?
Take me down to the Paradise City where the grass is green and the girls are pretty.
Listen to like Zilla Kami, dude.
Like, I don't know what you're talking about.
You're a Zoomer Kami?
Zilla Kami?
You're a what?
I listen to Zilla Kami.
You're a Zoomer communist?
Zilla Kami.
Who is that?
It's just like an artist.
Like, what?
Wait, who else do you listen to?
Um, Suicide Boy.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Who else?
Will Tracy.
Who the fuck is that guy?
Sorry, don't you?
I don't know who Will Tracy is.
Do you know Pearl Jam?
Yeah.
You know Pearl Jam?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I listen to.
Okay.
Normally I wear flannel, so you would know that.
Yeah.
Good talk.
You don't know who Slash is though?
Kim Chunk Il gonna take over the local McDonald's.
These women give off ugliest friend in the group vibes.
The silence is loud.
I think the silence is the best answer to that.
No, you guys can respond.
You guys, if you want, shoot shots back.
You can shoot shots back.
That's me.
Who is Kim Chunk Il?
You know who it is.
Kim Jong-il.
You know who it is.
Okay.
Okay.
Kim Jong-il.
You're assuming I know him just because I'm Asian?
I think a lot of people know who he is.
No, I'm just asking.
Why do I?
I'm just asking.
Did you say your type?
Oh, I think I was about to answer.
Yeah, go ahead.
Like I said earlier, I think there's like different categories.
Obviously, I have preferences.
There's no, I haven't at least met anybody that like has all my preferences.
It depends like how they balance out.
Sure.
But some of my preferences are like they gotta be tall, have a nice stable job, be good in bed.
That's crazy.
Gotta be good in bed.
Gotta be good in bed.
Stable job.
Yeah.
Sure.
Personality.
Personality.
Yep.
What about you?
I like furries.
Huh?
Furries.
Like the people with tail.
The people that dress up as animals.
Cute, man.
Wait, so like you're attracted to furries?
Oh, we're talking like sexual ones?
Like, physical and personal.
Is your boyfriend a furry?
Are you a part of the LGBTQ community?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you have like a problem with that?
No.
Oh, okay.
Just asking.
Just wondering.
You're not going to laugh at me and say, let's move on.
Your type?
I mean, my ex was black, and I would just say black and tall, white guys with like brown hair.
Preferably curly.
tall white guys oh you like the what is it The broccoli?
Do you like the broccoli hair colour?
No, no, no.
It has to be like, and they have to have fashion, be stylish.
Gotta have fashion.
Gotta have the Riz.
Gotta be the Rizzler.
You gotta be a Rizzler.
Yeah, you gotta be a Rizzler.
You gotta be a Rizzler.
Gotta be a Rizzler.
Have that banter, you know what I mean?
Gotta be the Rizzler.
Gotta have that banter.
The Banta.
The Banta.
Gotta be the Rizzler.
Do you have Riz?
I would say she comes out once in a while.
She comes out once in a while.
If I think someone's cute, I'll try to Riz, but I don't know.
I see.
Depends on the person.
Okay, what about you?
Tall, white, or black.
I wasn't expecting that from you, but okay.
I like skinny guys.
Like what?
Skinny guys.
Skinny guys.
Yeah.
I like when their joints pop out.
How are they going to protect you?
Do you smoke weed?
No.
I feel like you don't, but you're also high naturally.
I know, I know I am.
Okay, go ahead.
People tell me I'm crazy all the time.
What about like, okay, so looks, what about personality traits?
Tolerant.
Huh?
Tolerant.
Tolerant?
This girl has to be a fucking troll, guys.
She has to be trolling.
Tolerant.
Because I think my love language is kind of like being annoying.
Oh, okay.
I see.
I thought you meant like racially tolerant.
No.
Like, because you seem to be attracted to.
Okay.
Tolerant of you because you're annoying.
Yeah.
How are you annoying?
I mean, besides what you've displayed tonight, and I'm like really annoying.
You're kind of crazy.
How are you crazy?
Like, slash your tires crazy?
No, no.
Like, stalking?
Not physically.
I'm just verbally crazy.
You're verbally crazy.
Let's have a verbally crazy.
Pretend I'm from Alabama.
Hold on, let me get it.
No, we're not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
All right.
Okay, what?
Hi, my name's Blake.
What's his fucking name?
Trent.
Trent?
No, it's like Brand.
Brent.
Brand.
Brand.
Brand?
Yeah.
Like Brand, but with a T at the end.
Oh, Brand.
Yo, what's up, baby girl?
I'm Brandt.
Why are you doing this to me?
So cringe.
What are you talking about, baby girl?
I love you.
Shut up.
Don't tell me to shut up.
You shut up.
Okay.
Based.
Oh my god, what the fuck?
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
That was cool.
Do you feel like you need a guy that's a little more calm, or do you want someone that's as crazy as you to match your energy?
Now calm.
I mean you seem pretty calm.
She's like calm but not.
Yeah.
You're like chaos.
Crazy side.
What's your crazy side?
Crazy side, yeah.
I don't know.
You should check out her TikTok and then I guess.
That's it.
Okay, what about you?
Can we hear me first of all?
Yeah, yeah.
We're good?
Can we hear her?
We're good.
Chat.
Cool.
One, if we can hear her, go ahead.
All right, so my type is usually guys preferably a bit taller than me because I am pretty tall myself.
How tall are you?
I'm 5'6.
Okay.
Usually someone that is religious and has family values.
And someone calm.
I like my guys shy.
Okay.
All right.
Wait, shy, like reserved or like reserved anxiety.
Yeah.
Social anxiety.
Well, because I'm pretty calm myself.
Hella liberal and attractive.
Hello what?
Unattractive.
Unattractive.
Liberal.
Hella liberal?
Yeah.
Being what?
Like being socially, like, having social anxiety.
I don't really think liberal there is.
Social anxiety knows because it's feminine, kind of.
Well, I don't have the social anxiety.
Oh, your social anxiety.
It's feminine.
And feminine guys are liberal.
So I guess having social anxiety is feminine.
I don't think like being introverted or extroverted knows like a political affiliation.
Or gender.
And I don't think being introverted means having social anxiety.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I just want someone that doesn't talk too much.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd like silent.
Me too.
So that you can do all the talking, Tiffany?
No, no.
You just want to yap away.
No.
Okay, good talk.
Good talk.
Oh, yeah, let's do Twitch.
Yo, guys.
Oh, I need it.
Madison needs to give her type, then I will, but I'll shout out Twitch.
Oh, dude, we got hype chat.
Holy shit.
That's cool.
Oh, yeah, because we got partnered on Twitch.
What up?
Okay, Foucadi, thank you for the five community subs.
Thank you so much.
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King Kip, thank you for the prime.
Oregon Grinder, thank you for the prime.
Squuck, thank for the tier one.
Patty, thank for the prime.
Yo, Fukati, thank you for the hype chat.
I don't know if there's a way for us to like have the hype chats start displaying in Stream Overlay.
I don't think Streamlabs has integrated it yet, but I'll read it here.
I always say there's nothing on the earth that spans as your own hand.
Wait, what?
As your own hand?
Then screw those women's grammar, please?
I always say there's nothing on the earth that spans as your own hand.
Okay.
It's J808, tier one.
Thank you.
Robin, thank you for the tier one.
Appreciate it.
Foucaulti, thank you for our very first hyper chat.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, appreciate it, man.
Where were we?
Oh, Madison, you're typed, then I'll give mine.
Then we'll finally get into the what's it called?
Go ahead.
Preferably tall, at least, as long as you're taller than me, that's fine.
But preferably tall.
I like dark features in a guy, like brown eyes, brown hair.
I do like gravitate towards white men.
I like a masculine guy, someone who's willing to be able to provide for me and protect.
And I like someone who is super social.
Like, I don't know, like my boyfriend.
That was beautiful, Madison.
That was beautiful.
Okay.
I'll give mine.
Pull the urch.
We'll come to that later.
Okay.
Let's see.
Where do I start?
Any race is fine.
I'll date any race.
I would say, though, slight preference for white women and Asian women.
Slightly awkward Asian women.
Chef's kiss.
If they've done cello for like 10 years, that's pretty fucking hot.
Cello.
Cello.
Why specifically cello?
Good like hand coordination.
Very important.
She's got good technique.
There's other string instruments.
There's violin, there's a viola.
I don't know, but like why specifically cello?
Is bass cons because like bass, you kind of pluck at it a little bit.
Like, or wait, with the bass, do you do the yeah?
Cello, Bach Cello Suite number three is one of my favorites.
So you want a girl to play like cello?
Yes, I want her to serenade me.
So cello's your favorite instrument?
Yeah, cello's the top G of all the instruments.
Like violin's kind of like some weak shit, you know?
Like some symphony, like nah, get me cellos.
Like, fuck out of here with your violin.
You gotta like crank your neck and shit.
Nah, cello, you get to fucking sit.
And okay, good talk.
Let's see.
Short women.
I like short women.
Y'all like tall men.
I like short women.
But when I say short, I mean really fucking short.
What's that?
Like 4'11 and below.
If your height doesn't start with 4, you ain't the one.
So that's it's funny, like telling girls who are like 5'2 that they're too tall for me.
Like, sorry, you're a giant.
That's insane.
Yeah, it's wild.
Like, how tall?
How tall are you?
5'5.
Okay, that's above average.
How tall are you?
5'2.
Yeah, you're too tall.
Like, you're way too tall for me.
I love it.
That's crazy.
Where are these small women?
I've never.
I'm trying to find them.
Like, if you know a dwarf, maybe come.
Got you, got you.
If any girls know dwarf, I'm trying to.
Do you like midgets?
That's a dwarf.
I'm down.
Have you ever railed a midget?
No, but I'm like trying to.
Really?
Do you know anybody?
You know what?
I'm going to keep my ad up.
I'm like, I've shot my shot a couple times and they don't respond.
Like three.
I've slid into some DMs, but they just, it didn't work.
Why do you like midgets?
Fun size, hello?
Okay.
Just like.
I'll find them.
Fun size.
Fun size, petite.
And they're kind of stacked, not gonna lie.
Stacked?
They're stacked, you know?
Like condensed into like a smaller one.
No, they're just like, well, yeah, but like they're stacked.
Like they got no, they're stacked.
No, like they got the thick kids.
They got knockers.
They got, well, not always, but like.
They're like, got nice.
They got a nice fucking booty.
Like they're squished.
What?
They're squished.
Here, don't talk.
You don't.
Here, just cover your eyes.
Like the panoramic photo.
I want you to go like this when the adults are talking about adults are talking about your perfect wife is like a midget who plays a cello.
Well again, height, I'll date a girl who's taller than me.
Okay.
She could be six foot seven.
Okay.
For like wife kid reasons, like yeah, tall is good, I guess.
Just for like railing purposes.
No, no, no, no, I mean, like, don't get me wrong.
I would wife up, like, a girl who's, like, if I like her, it's not a deal breaker for me.
Like, if she's a great woman, but she's like five feet, yeah, that's fine.
You know?
You know.
Interesting.
Whereas I would say for, and oh, on the height thing here.
I'll finish up.
I'm going to finish up my long list of things that I care about.
And then we'll get to height.
So, strong pref, excuse me, strong preference for no plastic surgery.
No fake tits, no fake lips, no BBL, no lipo.
Don't like it.
Even if like the girl, for example, totally flat, I'd prefer her totally flat than with some fake titties.
Like what about a nose jaw?
Again, well, with plastic surgery, there's kind of degrees to it.
So like a nose job is far less invasive than fake boobs.
And fake boobs are less invasive than a BBL.
So nose job, like that's it's a different procedure too because a lot of the ones that I dislike, that's like you're putting something in you.
Like fake tits.
You put silicone in your nose.
Sure, but typically like my understanding with like rhinoplasty, they just like shave it down a little bit.
I don't sometimes they might inject something in there, but it's still plastic surgery, I guess.
So why are you thinking about getting a nose job?
Yeah.
Why?
Your nose is fine.
Show me your profile.
Show me your side.
Yeah, your nose is fine.
What would you do to it?
You'd do like the little.
Yeah, I guess.
You okay?
Yeah.
Did you have something on this?
It's boring?
A little bit.
You're the one who you asked to be on the show.
I didn't.
Yeah, you reached out to us wanting to be on the show.
I didn't.
Oh, who did?
Someone on your behalf reached out.
I don't know who did it, but you did.
You asked me to come on.
No, you guys contacted us.
Initially, we followed up with you to see about coming on.
Did you not send the first message?
Uh, no.
Yeah, you did.
Or are you saying your boyfriend reached out to us?
No.
Do I literally need to pull up the Instagram messages and show you that you reached out to us wanting to be on the show?
In any case, it's kind of rude to say that this is boring.
Well, you asked what's wrong, so I'm just telling you straight up.
I'm just bored.
Maybe that's because you're too fixated on wanting to play your bullshit Tamagotchi.
It's not bullshit, dude.
Are you really that triggered that I called your Tamagotch bullshit?
I'm not triggered.
It's just not bullshit.
Tomagotchi is cool.
You seem a little offended by it.
What's your problem with the Tomagotchi, man?
Maybe you're bored because you're not really participating in the conversation, and every time we've gone around the table, get to you, you just kind of give a half-assed, These are just dumbass questions, bro.
Like, what?
You asked to be on the show.
No, I didn't.
You're being very rude and disrespectful.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay, Ian.
So you asked to be, here, I'll pull up the initial messages that you sent us, hold on.
Hold on.
Let me scroll up one sec here.
She's bored.
Okay, September 6th, you DM'd us.
Hey, I said hot.
Or wait, hold on.
You've sent us messages from two different accounts.
Hold on, let me pull it up.
It's uh one sec.
Typically, if you're bored, um, maybe that's just projection.
Maybe you're the bored.
Hold on.
Okay, I'm not gonna pull it up, but you messaged us wanting to be on the show.
We did not message you.
Okay, bro.
What's with the attitude?
What do you mean?
You have an attitude.
Do you think if you're in a conversation with somebody and you say, this is boring, do you think that that's a polite thing?
Okay, so what?
I'm curious, how would you like to see this conversation go?
Since you're so bored, hold on.
Well, we'll get into it.
Great content, Mr. Ratlus, as per usual.
Helping men and women understand each other.
Also, for white two-pack, I am brown, dripping result day, and have stacks you down.
Okay.
So.
Oh, my God.
By the way, Nick, ready?
You need to ready your camera.
So, you're bored.
Can you make it not a little make it a little less boring for us?
Hold on.
Oh my god.
Modest Hakeemer donated $100.
My sprinkler goes like this and comes back like this.
This ultra lady, HTOF 304 that calls herself waifu.
Makes me lose brain cells by the second who would want that as waifu.
Yikes.
A freak.
So you're bored.
Make this conversation less boring.
Go ahead.
I'm waiting.
How often do you think about the Roman Empire, Brian?
That is that your best effort?
Sure.
Yeah, so I checked on both of our messages here.
You reached out to us.
You said my OF friends, manager, and I would love to be on your podcast August 22nd.
You asked me what this podcast is about.
I'm assuming you reached out to be on this show because you've seen the clips.
You've seen the show.
No, I haven't.
You, okay.
A mess.
You sent the first message.
It wasn't me.
It was probably my manager.
Okay.
Most definitely was my manager.
The guy with the green hair that was down there?
No, that's my boyfriend.
That's not my manager.
Okay.
So, in any case, a message originating from your Instagram.
See, here's the thing.
If I have a representative contact somebody and I'm working on a business deal, they can say that you made the offer.
In any case, you're not particularly adding to the conversation.
You've been disrespectful this entire time.
You're entitled.
You're rude.
You have TikTok brain.
You cannot stay focused.
We've only been live for an hour and a half or so.
It's incredibly rude to say that you're bored in a conversation.
You literally asked, though.
Like, what do you want me to say?
Well, I appreciate the truth, but you're being rude, so I'm going to ask you to leave.
Okay.
So get up, get the fuck out.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Madison.
Good luck on your dead ass podcast, bro.
Bro, you got no fucking followers.
You're a fucking clown.
I don't know.
Bye.
Why did she come?
Wait, that was.
I thought you guys got her from down there.
No, I thought so.
I thought she was on the street.
Yeah, so I was like, wait.
That's crazy.
That's funny.
She's got on my dead ass podcast, bitch, you fucking do OnlyFans, you fucking degenerate.
Good, they're all gone.
No more OnlyFans, girls.
Is she the one who stabbed her boyfriend?
No, that's her.
Which we're about to get into.
Here, we need to, I almost think that we, do we adjust the seating arrangements a little bit?
Do you need me to scoot over?
I almost feel like we could tighten it up a little bit.
So why don't you two shift down?
So you two just shift down.
Hey, what's the number on your microphone there?
Oh, let's take her out.
We're taking her out of the description.
Four, that's five.
Nick, mute four.
Okay, no, no, no, no.
Here, just you get in that seat.
I did not see it.
See the chat.
I was...
I was about to kick her off right away, but I wanted to get a little back.
I was committed to kicking her off pretty much as soon as she said she was bored, but I wanted to drag it out a little bit.
Yeah, that chick was obnoxious.
Yo, she asked to come on.
She DMed us asking to be on the show, so whatever.
I'm going to adjust the cameras a little bit.
I forgot where we were a little bit.
Hold on.
Yeah, I removed it from the thing.
Let me just make sure I got it right.
Okay, we're good.
It's out.
Nah, she was just rude from the fucking jump.
Like, she was on her fucking Tamagotchi.
Donated $99.
Clapping, Oh, my God.
Clapping, clapping.
Wow.
Could she be any more rude?
yeah bro um we were up to you telling us about oh okay yeah yeah um No, she was rude.
She's on her fucking Tamagotchi while I was doing the fucking intro.
And I was like looking over as I was doing the intro.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Bro, so yeah, whatever.
Nothing lost because she's really not, she was not adding anything to the conversation.
So I'm going to adjust the camera angles.
Why don't you, while I'm adjusting the camera angles, tell us about, and I wish we'd gotten into this a little bit sooner.
You have quite a story to tell us.
So why don't you tell us?
Yeah, for sure.
Even before the show, there was some, I know y'all were talking and I was like, I'm going to not say anything and see what y'all's reactions are to kind of like vibe it out.
But yeah, so I did have a blind date situation March of last year.
So I was.
Can you put your camera around the mic?
Can you put the mic on?
Yeah.
So yeah, so I had a blind date situation March of last year.
I was dealing with a lot of mental health issues.
You know, I was off my medication on all kinds of drugs, alcohols, not feeling good at all.
And for me, like, I always liked, quote unquote, going out and like dating and just kind of seeing how the wives are.
But I was so like lonely and just wanted to see how it goes.
And I moved to Vegas to pursue my music career.
That's kind of what drove me to go to Vegas.
And I had a friend that was living there.
I had a job.
So everything was great.
But yeah, so I go on this blind date.
And I had a manic episode.
So it ended up being unfortunate.
It's like a circumstance.
I was charged with assumptive murder.
And yeah, so my case is closed now, but I've done everything in my power to improve on it.
I seek mental health treatment.
I see my doctors regularly.
I work.
I do a lot of different community work service.
And earlier I said I was an author, which is kind of why I wanted to share that as well.
I recently published an autobiography.
It is called Who is Nikonikubin?
A Bloody Las Vegas Hotel Story.
So that's where I talk mostly about my journey moving from Iran to the United States as well as what really happened in Vegas.
Because, you know, I'm not sure if you Googled my name, but there are some perceptions in the media that I don't think they've done it justice or provided like context for everything that was accurate.
So I wanted to share my own true narrative and kind of like talk about mental health because I think everybody on some level has had like some kind of problems in the past or like for me, for me, I've had like a bipolar and schizophrenia.
So a lot of people have different perceptions of it and being off your medication with those conditions is kind of like, you know, not very good.
So that's kind of where I talk about more in my book about the hallucinations and the delusions I had.
But I'm super thankful that, you know, I actually had my book signing in Bars Noble this, yeah, this Saturday.
So it was a super good turnaround.
And yeah, if you have any questions, would love to see what you want to chat about.
We pulled up, we have some of the news articles ready to go.
So, and I have some questions for you.
Go ahead, Nick.
So this was in the New York Post.
A college student who stabbed her blind date in revenge for U.S. killing of Iranian commander gets probation.
So you got, was it 30?
And what were the initial charges?
I was initially charged with attempted murder to count a battery.
It's a murder to counsel pottery and burglary of a business.
Oh, burglary of a, okay, I didn't know that.
What did you plead down to?
Two counts of false imprisonment.
Two counts of, okay.
So the initial charge was, the big one was attempted murder.
Yeah.
And that carries, my understanding, in Las Vegas, it carries, or excuse me, in Nevada, two to 20 years of potential prison sentence.
Correct.
They can also reward, my understanding, I didn't know this, they can also reward probation for attempted murder in Nevada.
But that's the range, the potential punishment, anywhere from two years on the low end to 20 years incarceration.
Pull up the news article real quick.
Okay.
So here, why don't we go to the next tab?
Is this?
Oh, wait, zoom out.
So you were arrested.
You got arrested.
Right, yes.
Nick, can you go back?
Can you zoom out a bit?
Not my favorite picture.
Okay, this is your mug shot.
Good times.
Good.
Was this on the night that you were arrested?
Correct, yes.
And then there's a little video that we're going to just watch that will help us.
Next tab, I think it should be.
Oh, full screen, Nick.
Full screen.
Come on.
Can we go smaller?
Is there smaller for us?
Yeah, do you want to go video stab?
Oh, yeah.
Can you make us smaller?
Just as smaller.
Okay.
Here, just put us in the corner.
Is there like a buildup to this?
Yeah, just press, hold on, press.
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah.
Yeah, press play.
I guess out of spite of revenge.
What do you mean by that?
Like, why are you?
Just in general, like, I mean, let's kill Soul Hamani.
That's a bloodstill.
So I feel like it's fair to American murder.
I don't know.
I just felt like somebody in American soul should have died.
hide us hide the camera hide the camera just so we no no no no no no go the video Just hide us so we can read this.
Go ahead, play it.
You were charged with attempted murder and two counts of battery, and you were on house arrest.
Okay, go ahead.
Bring us back.
So that must have been quite the ordeal for you.
right for sure yeah um so you give us the back story Like, so, okay, you matched with a guy on a dating app, correct?
Yeah, correct.
You were on.
We've never met before.
You never met before, just totally random guy.
Were you just in Vegas for a couple days?
Just to move on.
No, I actually moved there.
I watched it.
You were living there, okay?
Yeah, because I wanted to pursue my music career.
I was already working there.
Okay.
I already had contacts with DJs, voice lesson people.
And that was my ultimate goal.
I didn't move there intentionally to cause harm, but I had a lot of mental health issues and I was off my medication and given a lot of context that I provide more in my autobiography.
I was able to kind of provide more context for the situation.
But if you have any more questions, I would love to answer.
Well, so you're, at least what you told the officer when he was interviewing you, you told him that you wanted to get revenge because the U.S. had, was it they assassinated, what was his name?
I don't want to repeat his name, but I do understand what you're saying.
Well, he is the, you wanted to get revenge because the U.S. had, it was like an Iranian general or something.
Correct.
Okay.
And so was that actually the case?
Were you in like it, you said you were manic?
Yeah, I mean, obviously that is the video.
I'm not denying what I'm saying.
Right.
But.
But you said you were going through some mental health issues, so I'm just trying to like.
For sure.
Yeah, so I was interviewed by multiple different doctors, doctors that my attorney recommended, as well as the state doctors, forensic psychologists, a lot of different people and just experts that made the conclusion that basically what I was saying is gibberish.
And it wasn't, honestly, he has a very negative perception of what I believe in.
And I never supported him.
I never want to support him, anything like that.
But when you're in a Maddox at a point, and I describe that more in my book as well, you have a lot of specific delusions and hallucinations that feel super real to you.
And you're able to, not able to comprehend what's real and what's not, which is why I really like these red and blue fields in the Matrix.
Do you listen to Kanye?
Yeah, I listen to Kanye sometimes.
I'm not sure how that relates.
Were you aware you were manic?
No, Yay is about bipolar, being bipolar.
Yeah.
The album Yay.
I actually kind of really like that song.
Right?
Are you bipolar?
No, no.
Okay.
So let's see here.
Like for manic, I mean, like, I describe it in like different interviews as well, but I really thought I was playing a role in a movie.
Like different, I was playing different scenes.
For example, we had a car ride conversation.
We had certain discussions and nothing against him, but because I was so like manic and already off my medication and these medications are, you know, they're antipsychotic.
So when you don't take, when you go cold torky on them, it's way worse than not taking them.
So it was like kind of hard with that as well.
So anything he said honestly just made me angry inside.
And, you know, for example, whenever we were in the casinos, whenever I would see the sloth machines, it would be like, like, it would cause me to have head fog and kind of like, I don't know what's the best way to describe it, kind of like paparazzi, like with the lights and everything.
So did this like manic episode that you have, like, did it last only throughout the day or was it like a couple days?
Honestly, I was manic probably the whole time I moved there two weeks before and I didn't get complete clarity until three weeks after I was in jail, which is why I had a competency hearing to make sure that I was mentally stable to stand in trial.
Okay.
So.
Okay.
And so let's see.
I don't know.
I know it's a lot of information.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you provided something in your pre-show notes to us, which I don't know if I because I feel like this is a very, there's a lot of gravity to this situation, so I don't know how, but You said that when the police were interviewing you,
interrogating you, you had a, I can't believe I'm actually saying this, you had a butt plug-in and you asked multiple times to remove it and they said no while they were That's very true, yes Okay.
Wait, did that clip, did that clip show they didn't report on it, but it was like on the like complete video coverage that was like on the case, but they didn't release it.
Okay.
And so you had grid one motorsports donated $100.
Gentlemen, remember, thou shalt carry concealed with one in the chamber, and do not date above a six crazy feel like the slick Persian is probably rethinking that sisterhood comment from earlier.
Nila, any thoughts on that?
I'd still protect her.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
You wrote a book about it.
I think you mentioned how many copies has it sold?
Every book signing I've had, we've sold out all the books.
So about 50 copies in a day.
Do you, did the guy sue you?
No, he actually, like at the sentencing, which is like the last court hearing, where I apologized and was able to express what was going on mentally more to the judge, coming from zero criminal background and everything with my education and my family.
And he forgave me and he actually said he didn't want to pursue charges.
And, you know, that kind of gave me a sense of relief.
Obviously, I'm going to regret the situation for the rest of my life.
Nothing I can, I don't have a time machine.
Sorry, I don't.
But it did kind of put me at ease knowing that he did forgive me in the end.
So I think that left at a very positive note.
Did you have to pay any restitution to him?
I don't know.
You don't know?
I don't.
No, I don't pay any restitution to him, but I do have to pay for my probation and court fees and everything like that.
Okay.
So I don't know if you really, because I had to step away there.
I don't know if you really explained kind of, so you met him on this dating app, you guys met up at the hotel, you guys proceeded to start having sex?
Yes.
Or was he tied up?
So before we even, like, before he even picked me up, we already had like conversations on Snapchat and text messages.
And he was really into experimenting.
And he told me he liked some of female domination.
And, you know, but Gen Zers, like me, I love experimenting.
Why not?
You know, some men are into it, some not.
Some girls want Jen, some not, you know, you never know.
So he was okay with like using sex toys, a blindfold, and, you know, I have those conversations.
And given that perspective, I think it kind of provides a layer of context of the situation as well.
Obviously, I don't think having a kink of stabbing somebody in the middle of sex during the night isn't is definitely not something that should be acceptable obviously.
And the neck.
Did you go into the date with that pre-like notion that you were going to hurt him?
Is that your phone?
No.
Can you just clear it off the table and move the mic?
Move that mic into the corner, please.
Go ahead.
Yeah, no, I didn't have any like preset notions, but again, I was in a very bad mental state of point.
And I describe the specific delusions and hallucinations, but unless you do have those specific conditions like bipolar and schizophrenia, it's very hard to say it.
Like I would look at a sky, for example, the sky is blue.
But if somebody who is hallucinating sees a sky as pink, and they're like, oh, the sky's blue, and you're like, no, the sky's pink.
I 100% believe that.
Did that video, I was kind of focusing on something else.
The video that we showed, did it show the weapon?
Did it show the weapon in that video?
No.
The pink knife?
Did I send the wrong video?
I'm not sure.
Did you bring your own knife or who called 911?
Hold on.
It was tied up.
We both called 911.
I thought, did I send the wrong fucking video?
No, I have it already.
The pink knife.
Is it in the video?
Oh, can you pull it up really quick?
So this is the weapon.
Correct.
Okay.
That you used to stab him.
My neck's starting to hurt.
Chill out.
It was for protection, honestly.
Like, I had a lot of people tell me, like, Vegas is crazy.
Like, you're always going to have some kind of something on you to make sure you don't get into situations that are going to be unfortunate.
So you got them in the neck?
Like, was it a graze or how did you, was it a slit or a stab?
It was more like.
I described that as I said stab when I talked to the police, but it was more like a poke.
If I had to poke.
If I had to describe it.
A poke.
Yes.
With a knife.
Okay, how many times did you, was it just a singular poke?
It was twice.
Twice.
Okay.
Is he okay?
Yeah.
He didn't go to the hospital.
Yeah.
He's fine.
Oh, I don't know if he's fine, but so you from my knowledge.
Did you penetrate his skin?
Yes.
Did he bleed a lot?
How much was he bleeding?
A lot?
Honestly, like, it's kind of hard for me to remember all the details.
I'm still a little bit foggy from it, but from what I can, like, remember, I don't think there was much.
Okay.
So my understanding is that you, and I don't know at what point this occurred, in some of the news articles I wrote, it said that you were committed to a psych facility.
Is that correct?
Yeah, I was in a mental health institution for 10 days.
Immediately after the attack?
No, week before.
Because you were.
A week before.
Oh, a week before the event?
A week before, yeah.
You were in.
Sorry.
A week before I moved to Vegas, which would be like four weeks before the attack.
Okay.
So four weeks before the attack, for 10 days.
That's a very long time to be in a psych facility.
Correct.
Yeah.
What was your diagnosis?
Bipolar schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, and PTSD.
Okay, I see.
And so, and they gave you medications, I'm assuming.
Did you stop taking the medications and then?
Yeah, and when I started talking more about my conditions and everything, I connected with a lot of people that had specific delusions that I also had.
For example, I really thought the pills were kind of like hurt my creativity, or I had a delusion that the pills were poison.
So it wasn't that me consciously being like, fuck the pills.
Right.
You know, like, I'm not justifying it.
I'm just like providing context of like, that's what was going on in my mind, and that's why I really wanted, like, went off my meds essentially.
Were you, and so there was a question of your competency when it came to the criminal case where you were deemed competent, correct?
After three weeks, yes.
After three weeks.
I couldn't remember what was happening after the event.
I had to hear from my attorneys.
Okay.
And I had to be stable on that medication for three weeks for it to start working.
It's not like you take a pill one day and it starts working.
But you didn't plead insanity or something like that?
No, I mean there's a lot of legal jargon to it.
Like I took a guilty plea agreement.
You pled guilt?
Yeah.
Or was it no contest or?
It was guilty.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, because like you can sometimes in a plea agreement, you plead no contest.
So it's not necessarily an admission of guilt, but you plead.
I don't know if it's Nolo Cantandre.
I've heard of it, but I don't, that wasn't.
Sure.
So you got, you didn't go to prison though.
Okay.
You got 36 months of probation for attempted murder.
Actually, I like the clerk that my tender murder charge was dropped and my new okay It was false imprisonment, which is what I'm, but your initial charge was attempted murder, correct?
You pled to two counts of false imprisonment, was it?
Yeah okay um, I'm gonna just say if you had been a man like if we reversed the genders if you had been a man and you stabbed a woman on a date in the neck twice, if everything about your case was the same but it had been a man doing it, he'd be in prison for a very, very long time.
I like to disagree.
You do you think so?
Yeah, because there's a lot of different factors that went into my case.
I had zero criminal history.
I graduated number three in my class, 4.0 in college, from Berkeley.
I had a.
I had a very amazing family educated.
I come from a really good background, and that doesn't.
I wasn't even like.
I was not even suspended in school, nothing like dress code, nothing.
So it was all mental health issues, essentially all the things you listed, aside perhaps from your lack of criminal history.
That doesn't really change the gravitas of what happened.
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Of our government should have been deported back home by Homeland Security immediately.
How is this still here.
I actually have a good response for this.
Sure, go ahead, so they act.
I actually interviewed with Homeland and they did a whole investigation on me.
Homeland Security yeah, and you know they're very good.
I mean sure, they had everything.
They had my phone, everything I've ever searched in my life like, no doubt in their, like you know ways to investigate and they found zero evidence of anything tying me to terrorism or any organization or the guy that I named in that night.
Do you so like?
Because I think I saw a couple things online and some people want to paint you as a terrorist because you committed this act of violence on a US citizen in the name as revenge for the killing of an Iranian general, GRID ONE Motorsports donated $100 butt plug assassin.
We shouldn't laugh, though.
We shouldn't laugh.
If you had been a man, you would be in jail right now.
Life literally on easy mode.
You said you had a specific response.
Did you respond to the with the terrorism threats?
Yeah yeah, did you respond already?
Or yeah, I thought okay yeah, I mean related to what GRID ONE Motorsports here say, in addition to what I already said, if it was a man in your position exact, Exact same context, exact same circumstance, probably not getting 36 years of probes of probation, probably doing a prison sentence, and arguably charged as a terrorist.
I would think you would need evidence to charge somebody with terrorism.
Well, the evidence is in the body can't the body worn.
Just because somebody says something in a manic state of point doesn't mean that they are actually associated with that.
Let's just say, for example, somebody's having a manic episode and they say some white supremacist stuff and they don't even believe in that, but because they're in a manic state of point, they said that.
I don't know.
I'm not an attorney in the state of Nevada, so I don't know what would constitute, or I'm not familiar with federal law because I assume an act of terrorism would be pursued, prosecuted on the federal level.
In any case, removing the terrorist component, I would say that a man in the exact same position stabbing a woman from a dating app, that motherfucker's going to prison.
Wait, when they test you for these mental disorders, how do they know if you're faking it or not?
I mean, doctors that my attorneys recommended, and also the doctors from the state of Nevada, basically the prosecutors also concluded that, as well as me being diagnosed with those conditions before the incident event occurred.
So it wasn't that.
When you were rediagnosed, sorry?
When were you diagnosed with bipolar and schizophrenia?
At the mental institution that I was in.
Okay, so it was like right before that happened when you found out.
Right, so I got re-diagnosed back then and as well as when I was 18.
Okay.
Because I had a traumatic event, let's just put it that way.
And so that kind of led to my PTSD.
And 18 is whenever I first started hallucinating.
Female privilege.
How old are you then?
23.
Okay.
You got a very light sentence, I think.
Well, I disagree.
I don't know.
If you stab somebody with a knife, I don't care how clean your criminal history.
That's a prison sentence in my in Brian's sense of justice.
Well.
But the woke district attorney in Las Vegas disagrees, I think.
Like I said, I think there's more facts to the case than just like no lack of criminal history.
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Had you been a military age male, you would be in a very dark place, not in a hospital.
Own the fact that your sex gained you privilege or STF you.
I stand my firm belief that it could have been any gender.
Sure.
And there's no evidence you can guarantee me 100% that if the same case occurred with a different gender, it would have been a different circumstance.
But donated $99.
Oh my God.
There are significantly higher rates of genital herpes infections for immigrants who commit violent crimes using sharp objects.
Look into it.
I did not know that statistics.
That's Jay Butler.
He's very big on the herpes conversation.
He loves to bring it up.
You can't find it, Madison?
Okay.
Shit, I think I missed a couple of the chats.
For the record, I am clean, and I do get tested.
But I don't believe that's very true.
Well, thank you for the clarification.
Madison, maybe it's in the, can you look at the, here, just Madison, come back down, I'll find it.
Oh, okay, whatever.
Well, okay, Las Vegas, exact same jury.
Hold on, I got something.
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Imagine not straight to Gitmer because woman.
But men have all the privileges, right?
Because when I was younger, I was essayed.
I was able to claim mental health issues.
What has this country come to?
I will say it's definitely a gynocentric justice system.
You know, you often hear talks about, you know, there's a disparity.
So there is a disparity in sentencing between men and women in the U.S.
It's eight times greater than the disparity in sentencing, which you often hear about this.
Excuse me, the disparity in sentencing between white and black men in the U.S. You often hear these statistics that the comparison between white and black men being evidence of a racial bias or systemic racism.
But the disparity is eight times greater between men and women.
And so couldn't you make the argument then that there's systemic sexism against men because of the insane disparity?
I think I have some stats here.
Men as compared to women get 63% higher prison sentences.
They're more likely to be sentenced given equal amount of evidence, more likely to be charged in the first place, more likely to be arrested in the first place, more likely to receive the death sentence, 20 times more likely to be killed by the police.
So I definitely think it's a gynocentric justice system.
I would say also, again, this is different.
I don't know if, do you know who Jonathan Coppen Jonathan Coppenhaver?
Am I saying it right?
I do not recall.
War Machine?
Nick, can you pull up the Wikipedia tab?
This was in Vegas in the exact same county.
Granted, he was charged with some different things.
He's serving a life sentence for our kidnapping, domestic battery, and other charges.
I think he was initially...
Wait, Nick, can you pull it back up, actually?
Can you scroll down?
Scroll down, scroll down a bit to the chart.
Up, up, up, up.
Just the charges here.
Convictions Okay, so he was not con okay.
You got a lot of fucking convictions there He beat up his ex-girlfriend and another dude.
Obviously, very different.
I don't want to do a comparison.
He's doing life in prison with a possibility of parole after 36 years.
Granted, again, his crimes were very different, but that's a pretty gnarly difference.
I do think that the case is very different, but also like the fact that I did.
Same district attorney, though.
Exact same.
Was it Clark County?
Correct.
Yeah, that was tried in Clark County.
Life in prison.
He beat up and assaulted his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend or whatever.
Terrible crime.
I'm not trying to bring levity to that.
And for that, he did consent and there was no SA in that situation.
Sure.
Sure.
What War Machine did, absolutely terrible.
I don't know what's worse.
I don't know.
But this is a very different, in the same jurisdiction, in the exact same, the exact same district attorney, you have two very different outcomes.
Again, he might have had a bit of a criminal history.
I don't know all the details.
The crimes committed were different.
What he did was very, very fucked up.
And also, I just wanted to put it out there.
With my mental health issues and what I said to the police, that's why they charged me with attempted murder.
I asked my attorney, hey, like, if I didn't say those things afterwards, what would be my charges?
And they said it would just be a battery, two battery charges because what I said, they basically charged me with attempted murder, and burglary was because it happened at a hotel.
So not providing justification for it, but I do think that because of my mental state of point and having a clean criminal history with my educational background, I volunteered a lot.
I volunteered for the Makeup Wish Foundation.
Sure.
So a lot of impact on the community and doesn't have a record on my, you know.
There are dozens of cases you can find with a five-minute Google search that disproves her feeling on the topic.
There are unish cases where the man didn't go to jail, however, majority received a minimum of five years sentence.
Also, this looks like a trend last year.
I'm not sure what a oh, this looks like a trend last year?
Is that what he's trying to say?
I'm actually not understanding what he's saying.
Well, I feel like perhaps it's not fair to me to compare it to the Jonathan, I can't pronounce his last, Copenhaver war machine thing, because very different crimes.
I'd be curious to see how the district attorney in Clark County in Las Vegas is charging, like what the outcome is when it comes to sentencing for men who have done the, who got charged initially with attempted murder, and if they also got off on probation.
That's just what I'd be curious to know, but I don't know.
Yeah, again, I'm not an attorney, but I do know there was a news article by LV Criminal Review.
It was like an attorney's website where they explained the circumstances of the sentencing and the facts of my case and how that led to my sentencing specifically.
Okay.
So check it out.
I'm curious at what point were you in a like, I guess, sane state of mind to recognize what you did because, or I guess just like when that episode ended and you were just like, this is like when you finally realized what you did and that you weren't shooting movie scenes and stuff anymore.
Right, so like three weeks into it, which is when I was released from jail because I was able to pass the competency hearing.
Oh, okay.
So you didn't really realize.
Even when I was in custody, I thought the movie scene just continued in jail and we're shooting Orange as a new black.
Oh shit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you believed you were like in a film the whole time?
Yeah, and every scene was different.
For example, custody was Orange is a new block.
And whenever we were in the hotel, I thought I was playing different roles.
Whenever I was interrogated by the police, I thought I was playing Carrie from Homeland and this is some kind of like spy movie I'm doing and that's kind of why I said what I said.
Obviously, it's not like I can't take my words back.
It is what it is.
It is on tape.
But I can provide context of what was going on in my mind at that point for me to say that, you know.
Did you like, did you ever in your past have manic episodes or was this like the first one you've ever had?
Or do you have a lot of things?
I've definitely had past manic episodes, especially because I was, you know, not competing with my treatment, as well as whenever I did have a traumatic experience when I was 18 and would love your thoughts on this, but in Persian community, it's often really hard to talk about those experiences of trauma and you're often like shamed for it.
Okay.
I guess we have to change topic because it might be a do you all want to get married someday?
Yes.
absolutely.
Do you guys all want to have kids too?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, I guess we already kind of answered this, like what's your type, but what do you think is a marriageable man?
Hmm.
He has to love God.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's go around the table with that.
I think a marriageable man is a high-valued man and one who is constantly growing mentally, so within his mindset, spiritually, with always with God, financially, his money, physically, so he's always staying fit.
And one who values his family and friends.
Whiskey Squirrel donated $100.
Nothing was real until she beat the system and saw an opportunity to profit from her crime by writing a book.
She's just telling her story, man.
I'm telling my story, but for the record, I'm also partnering up with the National Mental Health Alliance, so 100% other proceeds after expenses does go to their organization.
Oh, that's great.
Super cool.
Yeah, continue.
And like I said, and family and friends, I think if he has the majority of those things, that's a marriageable man.
Do you want to be like a stay-at-home wife and mom when you're older?
No, so right now, like, I is a stage where I want to get my working done with, but obviously, once I have children, those are going to be, that's going to be my main priority.
Yeah.
So if work does get in the way, I will easily cut off work.
Yeah, for you?
I don't really have a said definition, honestly.
I like to see what they're bringing to the table.
Maybe they're short on some ends, but longer on the other.
Not intended, but especially hanging out for a really long time because they might beat a whole package, have all the check marks, but when we hang out for more than like three dates, then they're no longer giving the same vibe.
So I think there's a lot of context that goes into that.
Are you in a relationship right now?
I forgot, sir.
I'm single right now.
Oh, okay.
Something my dad actually said, like a recommendation for marrying a guy is like you can really have fun with anyone.
Like you can go out, drink, have a good time.
And he was like, oh, the thing that actually means something is like someone that's there for you, like in the hard times, someone, you know, that's, you know, just consistently there, you know?
I think also too, just through like my parents are divorced and stuff, you just have to have someone that you always have fun with, you know, as well.
Keep it alive, keep it fun.
Definitely that.
Tiffany?
Someone who doesn't drink or smoke and can provide.
Do you drink when you go up?
No.
No.
Wait, someone who doesn't drink or smoke and can provide?
Yeah.
was the question what's your uh what do you think is a marriageable man oh Oh, marriageable man.
Okay.
Because I was about to say, like, you're 18, you probably don't give a fuck about right now if a guy can provide.
Well, right now, would you prefer if your boyfriend or whatever doesn't drink or smoke too?
Well, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But like you're 18, you're probably most of your people you're dating are probably college guys who don't have a job.
So we're talking about marriage.
No, I know.
I know.
But I was just curious if that's also the case like right now.
Like you're look.
I can't imagine like most college girls are like looking for a guy to provide because they can't.
Well the question was marriageable.
No, I know, but I'm asking, is it also the case that you're looking for that?
Okay, that's I feel like that's a great thing though to find your partner, like a serious, committed, long-term partner in the time when you're in college because ultimately you're gonna be there for someone when they have nothing and when they have something in the future too word I guess a marriageable man to me would be someone that's religious, someone family oriented, someone that's loyal.
That's the biggest thing for me.
I'm strictly monogamous and I expect the same from my partner.
And someone that can provide.
It's not necessarily about the money, but obviously to have a successful family, the wife should be able to stay at home with the children.
And that's, I want to be in a situation where that could happen.
Did you see your recent ex-boyfriend as like someone that was possibly potentially marriage material?
Yeah, he was a great guy.
Like I can't deny that.
He was very good to me, very kind.
Really hard worker.
Like I said, he had three jobs.
But he just didn't check that aspect of monogamy.
Yeah.
Just go.
Okay.
Oh, I didn't finish up what I'm looking for in a girl.
So I think we talked about the plastic surgery shit.
yeah don't like plastic surgery um oh yeah you were oh i remember where we left okay Okay.
You were talking about, you asked me, what about the nose job?
And you're like, I'm thinking about getting a nose job.
And I said, no, your nose looks fine.
Then her, not you, but the girl who was sitting there was like, oh, this conversation's boring.
When I'm trying to compliment you on your nose is fine.
She had a shot to make it better.
What's that?
She had a shot to make it more entertaining.
Yeah, the Roman Empire.
She's staying in her bedroom and never come out.
That's what she does.
She fucking does OF and she's degenerate.
Okay.
let's see how much money she makes bro she's funny i'm just like what's that i just i want to ask I wanted to ask her how much money she made.
It was still like, it was such a degenerate conversation, too, because she got up and she was like, I have more followers than you.
Which isn't true.
I mean, I wish I didn't respond the way I did.
No, that's not true.
I don't have more.
No, but it's like, it's like, it actually is not true.
And I don't, I'm not like, I never would brag in that way.
Like, oh, I've got more followers than you.
Like, that's so fucking lame.
But I was like, I was more upset that she was just factually incorrect.
So that was like so imminent.
Well, I think she was a child.
Like, she just gave child behavior.
Did she have like contact spin?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, did she have like the big black?
Oh, I couldn't tell because I thought that was her eyes for real.
No, me too.
I was like, made sure to check.
That's super creepy.
I was like, well, I didn't see because her fucking hair is just covering her shit.
So what a interesting.
She surprised me as someone who would do OnlyFanso for some reason.
Nah, she's exactly the fucking type of chick.
I get that from her vibe, though.
Like, she seemed super obnoxious.
Super, terrible person.
Just a terrible person.
The minute she said, like, furries, I was.
That's going out.
No, she was.
Tiffany goes, Are you a part of the LGBTQ community?
Tiffany wanted the smoke.
Tiffany wants, well, I think she originally, she actually was originally triggered when you said something about the F-word.
And I could see she was a little bit already on edge from that.
But yeah, she was trolling.
I think I probably, like, as soon as I caught her out on the fucking bullshit Tamagotchi thing when she was.
What is that?
It's like this.
Yeah, whatever.
That's just like take care of an animal.
It's like it was like a keychain thing that you'd put on your book bag in school and like kids would just play it.
You just like take care of it.
It's like a Game Boy, but like this, it's dedicated to one game and you take care of like a pet.
It's like, yeah, just Google that shit.
I'm feeding my tomigotchi.
I was like, what?
Nah, she came to troll.
She for sure came the troll, but it's just like.
Brian, what is this on your back?
Your neck?
Oh, I got my back's hurting, so it's like a massage tool.
Yeah, just like.
Wait, Brian.
Yeah.
I have a gift for you.
Oh, what?
Is it a knife?
Oh my god, I thought.
Oh, it's true.
Your book?
Yeah.
I told you, bring a signed coffee.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
I'm definitely not going to read this, but thank you very much.
That's very nice.
Why did you say that?
What do you mean?
I'm just honest like you are.
She didn't know how to do it.
No, I just messaged me and you were like, yeah, bring a coffee.
English is my second language, so like, I'm pretty much illiterate, and I'm just gonna.
I'm kidding.
No.
Well, thank you very much.
I appreciate the gift.
Who brought the cake, by the way?
Was that you?
I did, yeah.
She brought a cake.
Maybe we should show that to the can you put that on the seat over there?
Thank you very much, though.
That's nice of you.
What was I going to say?
Oh, my type.
Oh, the video.
I got to play you guys the bowing video because this is this is a marriage.
Nick, come on.
F11, bro.
Come on.
Come on, dude.
Scroll up.
Make it big, please.
One more, I think, should be fine.
Just scroll down just a tad.
Yeah, that's fine.
Okay.
Boom.
Fucking bow.
Do you see the bow?
That's respect.
To her husband?
Yeah.
See, this is like...
That's like a maid.
No, no, no.
This is a housewife.
This is a wife.
It's not even made correctly.
You wouldn't do this for your marriageable provider husband?
No.
What would you do?
Not going to open doors for him.
That's weird.
No, what about the bow, though?
Hold on.
Wait for the bow.
Watch the bow again.
Wait for the bow.
Wait, what?
Wait for it?
That's autistic.
Wait for it.
Boom!
Look at the fucking.
Holy shit.
Can we dope, dude?
Raphael's comment.
I don't know.
Uh, what?
Could we read Raphael's comment on the video?
On the bowing video.
Oh, I don't know.
You wouldn't.
AB check, thank you for the gifted 20 memberships.
So, wait, you wouldn't bow?
You wouldn't do that?
No.
For your husband?
No.
You're making it.
No, a girl would ever do that.
Be purposeful when dating for marriage.
Just fun does not cut it.
Marriages take work on both sides and are billing.
Indeed, they do.
After 17 years of marriage, I still compare all women to my wife and find them lacking.
Take your time, be better.
That was beautiful, Grid 1 Motorsports.
Thank you.
What did that have to do with anything?
What do you guys think about that bowing video, though?
Like, that's pretty gangsta.
That's like dope, right?
Yeah, it was so valid.
Would you bow?
I would never bow.
You wouldn't bow?
I'm kidding.
I would never.
You wouldn't bow?
That's a weird.
I think she's calling.
Jeez, if a guy was providing for me, paying for everything didn't make me have to work a day in my life, I would bow once a day.
Well, yeah, if you want that kind of treatment, like you gotta be the provider.
Like you gotta be like all bills paid for, everything paid for, she's stay at home.
That's how you can get that treatment, I think.
I don't, I don't know.
I still even then?
No.
The guy's doing everything.
I just don't think I would ever like be in a position where the man was just providing for me.
Like, I feel like I would also want to work.
Do you want kids?
Yeah.
How many kids do you want?
Two.
Do you want to be working while you're pregnant and like afterwards?
Yeah.
I think that's it.
Okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
What about you, Jim?
My mom did it.
Do you want that's no, that's totally fine.
What about you?
What?
Do you want kids, marriage, right?
How many kids do you want?
Two.
Two?
It's not enough, but okay.
What's enough?
Yeah, what is enough?
If you're a man that doesn't get pregnant.
For me.
We're going until we have three sons.
I don't care if we have seven daughters.
We keep going until we get three.
Do you have two brothers?
Huh?
Do you have two brothers?
Like, are you with three brothers?
I don't have any brothers, sadly.
Are you an Onitron?
No, I have a sister.
Younger or older?
Younger.
It'd be dope if I had brothers, though.
I love my sister, don't get me wrong, but I feel like my army is weak because I don't have brothers.
Does that make sense to the chat?
Do you know what I mean?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you need a bro?
No, it's not even about that.
It's like, if I need to go to war, legally, in some other context, I want brothers.
Does that pull up the chat?
Does that make sense to you guys in the chat?
Nick, can you pull up the chat?
Yeah, you want friends?
Huh?
You want friends?
Oh, my God, dude.
What was that?
Sorry, that was on my phone.
Okay.
Friends, you can't really rely on.
I mean, you can to some extent.
So you want like a friend who you want.
Family is different.
Like blood is blood is different.
Like friends, you grow apart, but family, no.
Like, blood is very important.
Yeah, so you want blood friends.
Do you get what I chat?
Do you get what I get?
I mean, he wants brothers.
Wait, what?
She said, you want blood friends.
I mean, if that's how you want to categorize it, but.
My brother's my blood friend.
Huh?
Good talk, Tiffany.
Good talk.
Good talk.
I don't know where we were.
Donated $99.
White Tupac waving red flags.
Hashtag bow to your sensei lol.
Ew.
Do you have a response to wait?
What did they say?
They called you white Tupac.
You're red flags.
He wants you to bow.
Can we see a bow?
No.
Are you down to just do a bow right now?
Like stand up and do a bow?
Like for why?
Just for funs?
For funsies.
For funsies.
I don't know.
Like, what is the, what do you guys think?
I think she should do it.
Should I bow?
I'd say fuck it.
I'm not bowing to anyone.
No, I'm just, I'm bowing to myself, right?
Wait, you're telling her no?
No, I said yes.
Yeah.
Oh, she's.
I should bow.
You should, let's see a bow.
Shall I?
You might like it.
Show us a bad bow.
I think I should practice.
Try it out.
Okay, here comes the bow.
Try it.
You might like it.
I give it a B-.
It's good.
It needs a bit of work.
Oh, that's a curtsy.
Okay.
Now we're talking like some Game of Thrones shit.
Yeah, maybe.
I got it.
Maybe I. Actually, I kind of liked it.
Maybe I would bow for my husband.
Here, Tiffany, show us a bow.
Come on.
No.
It feels kind of good.
Like, I just like it.
It's super feminine, right?
It's not feminine, it's just like...
It's super feminine.
No.
It's like what?
It's like a maid.
I don't know why you're not.
Wait, so just question.
Just a question for you.
So do you want to be a stay-at-home mom?
No.
You don't?
No.
That's not very based of you.
What do you mean?
What do you want to do?
Lawyer.
You want to be a lawyer?
Yeah.
Prr.
I thought you were didn't you say you were like super trad and concert or well I suppose you can be conservative and become a lawyer but I thought you viewed yourself in like super trad in a super trad sort of way What's trad?
Traditional.
Traditional.
Oh.
Like trad life.
No?
No.
So you don't want a guy to be a provider then?
I want to have my own career, but also know that if I stop working, I am going to be provided for.
Life on easy mode, isn't that convenient?
Why not live life on easy mode if it's provided for you?
advantage of being a girl do you think let me ask you a question what What traits do you think you need to cultivate in order to become a successful attorney?
Traits.
Well, first off, what kind of attorney do you want to be?
Litigation attorney?
I'm thinking like criminal.
Defense or prosecution?
Defense.
Okay.
Question.
So what kind of traits do you need to have as an attorney?
Here, do you want me to help out a little bit?
Sure.
Disagreeable?
Do you agree with that?
In order to be an attorney, you need to be disagreeable.
That's one of the big five personality traits.
Agreeableness.
Do you need to be argumentative?
Okay.
Do you think that these traits make for a good partner?
Everyone has a masculine and feminine side.
Okay.
You can consider yourself more masculine or feminine.
both but i mean don't you think i can bring different sides of myself depending on the environment Okay.
Yeah.
So, okay.
So no bowing.
I get it.
Okay, that's fine.
That's fine.
Bowing's pretty masked.
The girl's still doing the work.
Like, she's carrying your child for like nine months, cooking food.
That's still work.
Oh, but I thought you said you don't want to clean or cook.
Didn't you say that you don't want to like clean or whatever?
No, I'm saying like why does the girl have to bow when she's also doing work at home?
what do you mean like no this this video depicts and obviously like it's exaggerated to some degree Yeah.
And the guy's being a dickhead.
I think the guy's treatment there is not good.
He's just throwing stuff around, throwing stuff.
That's not cool.
However, the woman's treatment, that's like super submissive.
A lot of guys would find that very appealing.
Do you find that appealing?
Absolutely.
Okay.
It's super rare, though.
Like, you'd want your wife to like bow to you when you walk in.
Yeah, very much.
Wouldn't you rather than like dab you up?
No, no, no, no.
That's way too masculine.
Oh, for real?
What about like a hug?
A girl dapping you.
What's up, bro?
What about a hug?
What's up, bro?
And then we do like the chip.
So valid.
Huh?
What about like a hug and a smile?
Guys want to feel respected in their relationships.
He's going to feel respected in their work environment.
yeah you wouldn't respect like and but so about like that's again this is obviously culturally something that's very different Like, bowing is something you typically see in Asian cultures, right?
Yeah, that's why I hate it.
In certain Asian cultures, not all Asian cultures, but.
I have to bow down to like my mom's friends.
Your mom's friends?
You have to bow to your mom's friends.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
Do you?
Show us the bow.
Show us the bow.
No, I'm not doing that.
Okay, all right.
She is bowing PTSD.
Just saying.
Oh, related to this, related to this, then we're going to get into height.
Nick, can you pull up that, not the, hold on, before you pull it, it's the news article from the 50s.
This is a home, this is some gangster shit.
You got it?
I'm going to have Nila read it.
God, I have bad eyesight.
Can you?
So this is from a, this is an extract from a 1950s home economics book, Tips to Look After Your Husband.
Nick, you're going to have to scroll it up big for us so we can read it.
Okay, so why don't you read the have dinner ready?
Okay.
Have dinner ready.
Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal on time.
This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs.
Most men are hungry when they come home, and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.
Continue reading.
Okay.
Prepare yourself.
Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives.
Touch up your makeup, put up a ribbon in your hair, and be fresh looking.
He has just been with a lot of work, weary people.
Be a little gay and a little more interesting.
I think gay meant something different back then.
That's what it means.
It means happy back then.
His boring day may need a lift.
Clear away the clutter.
Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gathering up the school books, toys, paper, etc.
Then run up a dustcloth over the tables.
Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too.
Oh, yeah, the next.
Oh, you picked the person with the worst eyesight.
All right.
Prepare the children.
Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small.
Comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes.
They are little treasures, and he would like to see them playing the part.
Minimize all noise.
At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer, dishwasher, or vacuum.
Try to encourage the children to be quiet.
Be happy to see him.
Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.
No bowing here.
Some don'ts.
Don't greet him with problems or complaining.
Don't complain if he's late for dinner.
Count this as minor compared with what he might have gone through the day.
Make him comfortable.
Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lie down in the bedroom.
Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes.
Speak in a low, soft, soothing, and pleasant voice.
Allow him to relax and unwind.
Listen to him.
There's a glimpse of it.
Yeah, you may have a blank, blank things to tell.
Oh, a lot of things to tell him, probably.
But the blank, blank of his arrival is not the time.
But I think the moment.
But the moment of his arrival is not the time.
Not the time.
Let him talk first.
Okay, let him talk first.
Make the evening his.
Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment.
Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure, his need to come home and relax.
The goal.
Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can renew him, renew himself in body and spirit.
Okay.
Thank you very much for reading that.
I want to get everybody's reaction to that article, starting with Tiffany.
Go ahead.
Your thoughts.
We're going to go, Tiffany, this way, and then we'll go back this way.
Go ahead.
Agree, disagree, based, sexist.
Agree.
Agree.
Okay.
Agreed with everything.
Okay, that's no, that's fine.
I forgot some of the things.
Sure.
What did you think of that?
I mean, if she's not doing anything, like has no life in her husband's her life, then sure, like, it makes sense for her to do those things if she genuinely has nothing else to do.
But like, it's also like a double standard.
Like, if she was out working all day or something, she would probably want to come home to a clean house and like not have to do the dishes and stuff.
But I don't know.
I think some of them are excessive.
Like, she doesn't need to be like his mother and be like put him to bed.
And like, I don't know.
I feel like some things, you know, adults can do independently.
I think some parts of it are, like, I agree with some parts I don't.
I do think it's important to point out it was from the 1950s, so like a lot of things are changed.
And, you know, even nowadays, like, if that is something that you want to do, that's cool.
Like, maybe that's your preference.
But for me personally, I do like some level of independence and some kind of equal partnership in the relationship, but I do like more of like flexibility and partner to partner it's different.
So, you know.
Okay, what about you?
I totally agree with everything this says.
You said, like, if you were working, you'd want to come home to a clean place, too.
Goes both ways, but I can never see my man clean or cook because it's such a turn off.
Like, so I would want to do all the things that it said on there.
Okay, was there anything you disagreed with, or pretty much everything said?
Seemed pretty, everything's good.
What about you?
I agree with pretty much everything.
I think it's very valid.
It brings me peace knowing that I can bring my significant other piece.
Yeah, I think it was beautiful.
I agree 100% with everything that was on that.
Okay, good shit.
But that's also like considering that women didn't have a lot of rights or didn't work.
And I feel like it's such a different time period.
I wouldn't agree with this per se today.
But okay, what about in a situation where even today, the man is the sole breadwinner?
I mean, I don't know.
I guess if they're the main breadwinner and the woman genuinely has nothing better to do than you have to do.
Well, I'll respond to million dollars.
This excerpt is in line for the book, Fascinating Womanhood, and I have seen these values in action as a former Mormon.
Can I talk to this?
Yeah, sure.
I'm actually a former Mormon.
was raised mormon um so all of those values can i bring my mom as an example onto this Sure.
So my dad and my mother met when they were 19, 20, early 20s.
They were working at a JC Penny in Escondido.
My dad went on to serve his mission in Uruguay for two years, and my mother waited for him for those whole two years.
And when he came back, they dated for two weeks, got engaged, and then my dad provided for her.
She went on to have seven kids.
Spent pretty much my whole childhood staying at home, doing the cooking, the cleaning.
I've never once seen my parents argue, never.
And it set a really good example for me and what I want for a marriage because to this day, they're still together.
My mom was my dad's first.
And so, I don't know.
Based.
Yeah, very based.
Super based.
It's something that I want for myself too.
I think they have a very happy, beautiful marriage.
And it's comforting to see that that stuff still exists.
Wait, so what are you now, Christian?
I'm just Christian.
Yeah, I left the church quite a while ago, but I still share the same.
What did you convert to?
There's a lot of things with the church.
I don't know if it's like appropriate to bring up, but there was reasons for leaving.
Grid 1 Motorsports donated $100.
The sultry Persian this is based TF.
That article is something to strive for.
If you wonder why your relationships failed, it is because women treat Theo men like boys and not men.
Feminism has failed you.
How can the patriarchy help you today?
Grid one, thank you very much.
I think women treat men as boys because they act like boys.
True.
Donated $99.
Oh.
Real talk.
I also served my mission in the year at Gwyn.
Cool, cool.
Thank you, Cam H.
Well, Grid 1 Motorsports, he was saying that the article is something to strive for, and women treat their men like boys and not men.
I think it's the fault kind of falls on both sides.
I think there's a crisis of masculinity.
I think that I think men are fucking up in a lot of ways, but I also think the blame falls on both genders, really.
So I think both sides are to blame for the current mess that is like the modern dating landscape.
I don't think it's just, I don't think we put all the blame on women.
We don't put all the blame on men.
I think men and women need to level up.
So did you have more?
Did you have something?
Well, I actually, did they like not have conflict because she was like submissive to him?
Like, did she have any opinions?
Well, I think the thing is, my dad is, if you would have met him, he's what I think is the definition of a top G.
So he's in his masculinity, which allows my mom to be in her full femininity because he's able to provide, and she was just able to.
So I think...
I agree.
Yeah, I think it's a two-way street.
I think gender roles are an amazing thing.
I believe in them.
I don't necessarily think that means one gender is better than the other, but I think we both contribute to make something beautiful.
I agree.
How is staying at home being feminine, though?
I don't think...
Well, what's feminine about working?
Going out and working.
I think that's a very strong feminine thing to be able to provide for yourself.
Well, yeah, definitely.
Like, if you're not married, of course, you know, you know, providing masculine.
Yeah, but I think masculine works.
Hypothetically, like, if you are married, you know, the women should be able to be a woman and be at home.
I was just going to say that I feel like men and women are so different in like it's in great ways, like obviously, which is why they should specifically stay in their position to what masculine men do and what feminine women do,
which is why I think that more traditional relationships like your parents had and like my parents had, and I feel like a lot of our parents had, they just are more successful because my mom did go back to work.
So once my youngest brother started school, that's when she went back to work.
She went back to work, got her nursing degree, and now she works.
But she spent probably 15, 20 years just at home being a wife.
And then, you know, obviously once the kids are grown, she got a little bored.
But I think that's the best dynamic.
Do you guys think that artists like Rihanna per se, her job is masculine, like her providing and having a music career and being a strong, impactful woman?
Like, do you think that's masculine?
Like, I guess for being successful.
Well, you said your previous statement was like, do you think being home is feminine?
I think it is in ways where naturally, if a woman is going to be home, she's probably going to be taking care of the household and taking care of her kids, being able to nurture her kids and her husband and things like that.
So, yeah.
So, is a woman's only purpose to stay at home and clean the house and have children?
I don't think that's her only purpose.
I'm saying it's feminine.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not bad for the women to be masculine.
I do want to touch.
I think you had said something about if she's doing nothing.
Yeah.
Right?
Could you?
This was like a few minutes ago.
Could you rephrase that?
Okay, so for instance, my mom is the breadwinner of my family.
Like, because my parents are divorced, my dad's the breadwinner of that household.
My mom's the breadwinner of her household.
My stepdad, when he was out of work, would do basically what that listed.
Like, he would drive us to school, drive us to dance class, like, you know, clean the house, make sure it's perfect, be in a good mood when she got home because she was on her feet all day type thing.
She's a celebrity hairstylist.
So, I mean, my mom's badass.
She's super cool, but I just think.
Didn't she do your hair?
Yes, she also does.
Actually, I don't know if I can say.
But yeah, I mean, I think it goes both ways for sure.
But I don't, I would say my mom or my stepdad being at home, like, does that take away his masculinity, like being at home and taking care of things because my mom's working?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong.
Like, if you just do the calculus in a relationship and you realize because of either my educational achievement or just because of your IQ or you're really intelligent, if you make the determination that the woman is more capable of securing resources for the family, that might be the best route to go.
However, I think there is something to be said for there's probably a men have a greater biological drive to provide and to achieve.
Do you think that's based off of like how you were specifically raised?
There certainly could be a nurture component to it, but I think there's a very strong nature component to it.
Like we, that's just through our evolution.
We were the ones who, men, we went out, we hunted, we provisioning.
So, and there's also, there's also a mating pressure on men that doesn't exist in women.
Like, most men don't care about, it doesn't make women, it's not that we don't care about it.
Your success, your status, your money does not make us more attracted to you.
I would say that's like just specifically maybe for you.
Like, I don't think you could say that as all men.
Sure, sure.
There are some, but I'm speaking in generalities here.
I'd say the majority of men, most men, don't care about the money that the money that you bring to the table or your success or your status.
But don't you find it more attractive to have a woman, you know, be like a badass?
Be a badass?
Yeah, like be like, you know, like, wouldn't you be attracted?
Like, you're like, like, yeah, like, what if you find a girl that like owns a business and like is super cool and like, you know, like you, you don't find it, is it because it's intimidating?
Because like because it's masculine.
It has nothing to do with it.
How is it?
It has nothing to do with masculinity.
I'll answer.
It has nothing to do with being intimidated.
Also, just because you're a business owner, it doesn't make you a cool person.
No, I'm just using an example.
Yeah, so I mean, no, it doesn't.
Well, why do you think masculine men are less attracted to those strong women?
I don't think it's not even necessarily about masculine men, but here's one of the big things, right?
There's gender roles in society.
Feminists have attempted to do a good job of getting rid of some of the gender roles that ostensibly don't come at the benefit of women.
However, a lot of the gender roles, like when it comes to feminism, when it comes to a lot of women, you guys want to keep the gender roles that benefit you.
I'm not, yeah, I'm for example, like a lot of girls, even if they consider themselves to be feminist, they still want the guy to pay for the first date, even though they believe in gender equality and feminism.
Do you want the guy to pay for the first date?
I mean, I'm down to split.
But would you prefer for a guy to pay for the first date?
Yeah, I would, yeah.
Do you think it'd be more attractive?
Would it be him taking the lead a bit?
Would it be him and a bit more in his masculine?
I wouldn't just, I wouldn't call it like masculine.
I would just like, oh, it's nice.
It's nice that someone like took, you know what I mean?
Now, not all, some women are fine with splitting the bill, but would you agree that the majority of either the majority or a lot of women want the guy to pay for the first date?
Absolutely.
And I've heard from a lot of women that if the guy didn't pay for the first date, there wouldn't be a second date.
That's just an immediate deal break for a lot of women.
And again, there are some women that will split the bill 50-50.
There's almost no guy, no guy can reasonably or logically have the expectation that the girl is ever going to pay the bill in its entirety.
There might be some guys who think maybe she's cool with splitting, but they also know there's a lot of girls that would prefer for the bill to be paid.
No guys are able to go in and say, like, with the expectation of like, she's going to pay for the date.
So you guys want to keep the traditional gender roles that benefit you while getting rid of all the other ones.
So I guess what I'm trying to get at is because women expect men to provide, for example, paying for the first date, there's a mating pressure on us as men to make.
Hold on.
Grid one motorsports donated $100.
No boss babe is not more attractive to most men.
If you are busy with your business, you are too busy for a man.
Because women do not spend theatre time and resources in the same way a man spends his time and resources.
You need to reevaluate.
There's a, thank you, Grid 1.
There's a mating pressure on men that does not exist on women.
You are not expected to pay for first aids or to provide long-term in a relationship.
There are some women that will be cool with a 50-50 relationship and they're going to have their career and it's going to be, they're going to equally contribute to the household income.
However, there's, I don't know what the split is.
There's a very large portion of women who want to be stay-at-home mothers and don't want to work when they're pregnant or when they're raising kids or at any point throughout the marriage.
So this creates a very strong pressure on men to achieve, and that pressure does not exist in women because there's no guys who are like, there's maybe some guys that are like, okay, I'm really looking to be a stay-at-home dad.
But most men, like, we don't have that as a fallback.
Most men know, like, if we don't provide, that like scorches 80, 90% of our dating prospects.
So wouldn't it be nice if you didn't have like that pressure to have like an equal, like an equal, like an equal person?
It would be nice if there was no war, but the reality is there will, there will always be border conflicts.
There will always be war.
It's just in our biology.
And like we can't, I suppose, yes, it would be nice, but we can't rely on the exception to the rule in this case.
And generally speaking, like, yeah, most women want guys to provide and pay for the first date.
No, you're not, I mean, you're not wrong about that.
I mean, I think a lot of women want to have that like safety net of like, oh, like, if they're paying for the first date, you know, that's what they'll bring to the relationship type thing.
Like, sure.
You know what I mean?
Like, if they pay for a date, they're taking initiative.
They're saying that, you know, they enjoyed the time with you.
And I'm, I just want to clear up one thing.
Like, if a woman, for example, wants to pursue, she wants to like research diseases and her like life mission is to like, she wants to try to develop medicines or therapies to cure certain diseases.
I think that's wonderful.
And I think if a woman want, that's great for you.
Like, it's great for you.
However, just from a dating perspective, one of the reasons men don't really care about your success or your career or your money is because of kind of what I already just talked about.
Women do not share their resources with men the same way that men share their resources with women.
I can't go in the next year on 20 first dates and ever have the expectation that the girl's going to pick up and pay for the entire tab.
I can never have that expectation.
So if you make a lot of money, I don't really benefit from it.
But if you go, if you like, even a woman who's really wealthy, like she, bro, she kind of like acts like a brokey when it comes to dating.
Like she's not going to pay for dates.
She's not going to take me on trips.
She's going to, at bare minimum, she'll split, which is, look, that's cool.
But that's why it just, we don't reap any sort of tangible benefit from your success.
Because in a marriage or in a relationship, the man's money is your money, is our money, but your money is still your money in a relationship.
So like, look, I guess some girls will like buy gifts or whatever, but first date, first couple dates, girls aren't paying for dates, generally speaking.
Sure, some do, but and you look at like sugar daddy sugar mamas, right?
Yeah.
There's, there are sugar mamas, but there's a lot more sugar daddies.
Even like even when a man is being provided for fully by his woman, he's also looked down upon as like a bitch and a pussy.
But when a woman's being provided for by her man, no one really says anything.
Like they won't put her down a man will be put down.
Yeah.
So yeah, we just pure purely on the like what if you're dating a guy who makes a lot of money, you might enjoy some of the benefits of that lifestyle.
You know, maybe he'll take you out, pay for dinners, et cetera.
But like women typically, when they're successful, they typically, they're not like, okay, let me start like dropping a ton of money on dudes.
It's like, nah.
I remember I was on a dating app a long time ago.
I matched with an attorney.
She was probably out earning me at the time.
She's a litigation attorney making $200,000 a year.
And in her bio, she said, even though I'm an attorney, even though I make good money, I still want the guy to like treat me like a princess and a queen and a lady, even though she makes $200,000 a year.
It's like, well, you can pay for the date.
Like, why not split?
Yeah.
No, it's definitely a double standard for sure.
Word.
Word.
But, and then I think the other thing, if you're, you mentioned like a business owner, I'm a business owner.
It's pretty taxing time-wise.
So It's to me, if you're super focused on your business, I'm going to feel like I'm less of a priority in the relationship.
So it doesn't go both ways.
What do you mean?
So, like, if you had a successful business, like, wouldn't the woman feel that as well?
Like, women don't feel that way when they see a successful man, but you would feel that way for like a successful woman.
Well, because the burden of providing on us, I do think as men, we do need to have our priority be our career so that we can support our girlfriend, support our wife, support our kids.
And I think it's interesting.
Like, when men make a lot of money, they tend to think, awesome, I can support my wife and my kids.
When women make a lot of money, they think I'm a strong, independent woman that doesn't need a man.
That's always interesting to me.
Well, I think most successful women don't do it for like they do it for themselves.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, and I get what you're saying.
I get there's a pressure for men to be like, oh, I'm working to provide, whereas women work to, you know, feel good, I guess, or like work to feel accomplished or, you know, be successful.
But like, I don't know.
I don't think it makes them less attractive, per se.
No, I don't think it makes a woman necessarily less.
It's not even the money component.
It doesn't make her less attractive, but it doesn't make her more attractive.
But why does like a woman's life need to be like all of about the man's?
Do you know what I mean?
No, it doesn't, but you were, I think you were asking something about like, do guys like boss?
I forgot the exact what originated the conversation, boss babes or boss ass bitch, but it's good for you, but take for example, I would say that a man who's a doctor, a lot of women would see the money, the status, because that's a very well-respected career, being a doctor.
That would make him like more attractive from a romantic point of view.
But I can't say that a woman who is a doctor for me as a guy, that's a great career.
Congratulations.
I'm sure you're doing well.
You must be very intelligent.
But it doesn't make her more attractive.
Like, I'll go date.
There's a 30-year-old woman who is a resident at a hospital and she's making six figures.
I'll go date the 20-year-old who works at Chick-fil-A.
Yeah.
Who's hotter?
Right.
No, yeah, no, no, I get what you're saying.
I get it.
So, I mean, it just I will say, though, that, like, I think intelligence can be is attractive in women because obviously I think intelligence, there's something genetic there.
So, like, a woman who's intelligent will probably have that will impact the IQ of our children to some degree.
Yeah.
So, like, I'm not saying I like just total bimbos, but like, you're also, I would argue that, regardless of your career achievement, well, okay, donated $99.
As a doctor, I see this all the time, and Brian is 100% correct.
Cam H, maybe, I don't know if you can talk about your colleagues, but do you, like, if you were to compare the female doctors versus the male doctors, like, who's more likely, are the male doctors more likely to date nurses versus the female doctors are more likely to want to date other doctors or like somebody who's more on their level?
Because I think it's the case that with, for example, oh, we got another one.
Hold on, I'll come back to the Cam H. Donated $100.
You still don't get it.
Men can work 60 hours a week and they will make time for the woman.
The woman works 40 hours a week and have time for no one but themselves.
We are different.
Feminism is a lie and has failed.
You learn from the mistake.
Feminism is a lie.
Do you have a response to grid one motorsports?
Well, I just think if, you know, it's a double standard, like it's, is it?
Yeah, I mean, if a guy has time to work and also be with his wife, then a woman that does the same thing also has the time for their husband to, you know.
Yeah, going back to Cam H's thing, he says, as a doctor, I see this all the time, and Brian is 100% correct.
I would say, generally speaking, like take a male doctor, male attorney versus female doctor, female attorney.
A male doctor, male attorney, he'll date like a hot barista.
Does not care.
Like, does not really care about her career.
Whereas if you look at a woman who's an attorney who's a doctor, she's probably going to want to date a guy who's like on her level or higher.
Yeah.
So.
That's good, right?
Or no?
Isn't that?
Well, that's, I mean, that's just hypergamy.
Like, men date down frequently.
Men marry down, date.
Why do you think they date down?
What do you mean?
socio-economically because you think you know yo doc thank you so much for the gift of 20 memberships Go ahead.
Do you think they date down because they don't want the competition of being with someone on their level?
I just, I feel like they just don't care about.
I just, again, I don't think it's.
They just don't care.
You guys don't think about, like, stuff like that.
I don't.
I don't think, like, for, I would say, for most men, obviously, I think one of the counters to my position a little bit is given, and I've said this before, given the economic and financial climate, I would argue most households need two incomes.
So you can make the argument that actually most men would want to find a woman who, because of the economic climate and that you need two incomes to hold down the household, especially if you want to have kids, that they are, it is going to be part of the calculus when picking someone to partner with.
My argument, though, is that that's never, for most men, it's never going to, like, if we meet like a really fucking amazing girl who earns significantly less than us, that's never going to be a deal breaker for a guy.
Whereas I would argue for a lot of women, if you run into a guy who's not like at some sort of oh, I see what you're saying.
The standards are very different.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah.
No, that does make sense.
That's totally valid.
But, uh, and also typically, like, if you're making a lot of money, typically those jobs are going to be a little typically stressful.
You might be working a lot.
And I don't know.
Like, a guy probably wants a girl who's a bit more available, I'd say.
I think, I don't know.
Like, I'm from LA, so a lot of guys find it more attractive than women are.
Sorry.
I have seen female sub-specialists.
Oh, Chem-H is a woman?
Male physicians like me who marry male physicians in a less competitive field, and it does often negatively affect their relationships.
This is rarely the case with male doctor slash female nurse as the natural hierarchy works.
Yeah, I would imagine a male doctor is much more likely.
Well, then again, there's not a lot of male nurses, so I feel like this is not the most perfect thing.
But I would argue that a male doctor, male attorney, a very high-achieving, high-earning man is much more likely or willing to date a woman who is like earning significantly less than him.
So is Cam H a woman though?
I've seen female sub-specialist physicians like me.
Oh, okay.
All right.
What kind of, you know.
What kind of, what are we talking here?
We talking orthopedist Sir, what are we talking here?
Okay.
Gynecologist, OBGYN.
What's up?
Her.
She's seen some Audis for sure.
Okay.
Oh.
Donated TV.
Oh, come on.
I am a dude lol.
Also, there are male nurses as well.
Yeah.
Were you going to say something?
Sorry, I forgot.
Yeah, no, same.
Same.
Yeah, same.
Dope.
Saw.
Dope.
Yeah.
But what was I?
I'm trying to remember what I was going to say.
Oh, wait, there's a video I wanted to pull up on this.
Frick.
Totally forgot.
Oh, wait, Nick, I don't know if you remember.
It was like a woman.
It was a TikTok and she was like crying because working is hard.
Do you remember?
Is it pulled up?
No, it's not pulled up.
Is it the TikTok?
There's like a TikTok and it's like.
She's like a girl in her car.
I don't recall, but she was like, I feel like we've reacted to two of these.
She was like, oh my God, I'm working nine to five and then I have to commute.
Did we have that?
I don't think we reacted to it.
I think the thing is, though, is like, at least from my view, is that pursuing a career is pretty empty.
like by the time you're in your 30s you're gonna be like is this really like the most fulfilling thing in the world being a i don't know what you want to do Exactly.
Do you know what you want to do?
I mean, I could either take over my dad's outdoor advertisement business.
Okay.
Is that like billboards or something?
Just billboards.
Yeah.
I would take over that.
Or I would work with media management as well.
Okay.
Media management or like, my parents don't want me to do this.
What's your major again?
Communications.
I don't think like the ultimate fulfillment in life comes from a career.
And like most people are not going to have particularly fulfilling jobs or careers.
You're going to be a wage slave for some company that doesn't give a fuck about you.
And if there's economic hard times, even if you've been loyal to the company, they're going to fire you.
And like, yeah, I don't think sitting in front like a lot of people's jobs is essentially like sitting in front of a computer all day.
Like that's not really it's not good for your health.
I do it.
I sit in front of the computer a lot.
It's not good for your body.
It's not good for your health.
I personally don't think being a slave to the money for your whole life is fulfilling.
What's that song by the Verve, Bittersweet Symphony?
You're a slave to the money and then you die?
Like, yeah, it's not.
I think I found the video if you want.
or we can watch it.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Let's play it.
Go ahead.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Can you make us a little bigger?
Yeah.
Wait, what does Q-O-T-D mean again?
Quote?
Is it quote of question of the question out of the day?
Can you start from the beginning?
I know, I'm probably just being so dramatic and annoying, but this is my first job, like my first nine-to-five job after college.
And I'm in person and I'm commuting in the city and it takes me fucking forever to get there.
There's no way I'm gonna be able to afford living in the city right now.
So that's off the table.
Like fucking duh.
If I was able to walk to work and it'd be fine, but I'm not.
So it literally takes me.
Like I leave here like I get on the train at 7:30 and I don't get home till like 6:15 earliest.
And then like I don't have time to do anything.
I don't, I want to shower, eat my dinner, and go to sleep.
I don't have time or energy to cook by dinner either.
Like I don't have energy to work out.
Like that's out the window.
Like I'm so upset.
Oh my god.
Nothing to do with my job at all, but just like the nine to five schedule in general is crazy.
Being in the office nine to five, like if it was remote, you get off at five and you're home and everything's fine.
But like I'm not home.
It takes me long to get home.
And like people that drive to the office, like it doesn't, you don't get off at five.
And I know it could be worse.
I know I could be working longer, but like I literally get off.
It's pitch black.
Like I don't have energy.
How do you have friends?
Like how do you have time to like meet like a guy?
I don't know.
Like how do you have time for like dating?
Like I don't have time for anything and I'm like so stressed out.
And I'm also getting my period.
So that's why I'm all emotional.
But like, am I so dramatic?
It's fine.
Cool.
And then there's another video, Nick.
I sent it to the Instagram page.
I sent it to ourself if you can pull it up.
It's sort of related to that.
Any thoughts on that video, guys?
Anything?
That sucks.
I think to be fair, like I don't think she's wrong.
Like, because she said she has to commute like two hours or something.
Both ways.
Was it two hours she said?
I don't know.
That's fucking a long day.
If you have to commute two hours, work nine to five, and then commute two hours back.
Like, yeah, as soon as you get home, you pretty much eat and have to go to sleep.
So I don't think she's wrong, but like, Nick, you got the other video?
Can you?
We got another video.
This one's pretty good.
Oh, jump scare.
Go ahead.
Whoever fought for women to get jobs.
Why?
Why did we do that?
I am so tired.
I want to just put my feet up.
Like, I am.
Oh my God.
It's literally me every Sunday morning.
But, yeah, no, I think, I mean, I think the careers are wonderful, but just from like a purely dating perspective, I think most men, it's a very small or not even part of the equation in terms of what we're going to find attractive in a partner.
Me personally, I'm fairly successful.
Don't really care at all about a girl's.
Oh, wait, there's another clip we can watch.
Sophia Frankl.
I don't know if you guys know the Caller Daddy podcast.
She used to be on the.
There's a clip of her saying, and I think she's very successful in her own right.
She went viral recently because she said that on a first date, and Nick, if you're able to try to find the TikTok video of this, Sophia Frankl asks men for a bank account statement on their first date or something.
Share a seven.
Huh?
Share a seven.
Oh, I love it.
Are you telling me about what?
Huh?
What did you say?
What did you say?
This video?
Sophia Frankl.
She went viral for.
Let us know when you have it, Nick.
Okay, should I look it up on Google or TikTok?
Just Google.
Sophia Frankl says she asked dates for their Bank account statement or something.
I feel like it'd be better to check credit score, maybe?
Could be.
I don't know.
It is draining, though, having to work a full-time job.
I don't know.
I go to school full-time and I work full-time, and literally Sundays and Tuesdays are the only time I have to myself before I come here.
And it's like I barely have time to even clean my house or make my bed every single day.
It's terrible, and it's definitely not fulfilling.
Are you able to find it, Nick?
Okay.
Well, let me do a chat here while we have it.
While you're trying to find that grade one motorsports, question for the panel: What is your best night in jail story?
Who here has been in jail, Tiffany?
No.
Be honest.
I know you've been arrested.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, okay.
You're so unfunny.
You're not.
I mean, there's a lot of different stories.
I mean, I don't know.
It's just like one that I can think of on top of my head is like because like they categorize you by like what your crimes are because I was like charged with the Samuel Murder.
They categorize me with the same level of people, I would say.
So there were situations where my roommate was hitting on me a lot and it was making me uncomfortable.
So that was one of them.
But I don't have any like wild crazy ones.
There's probably like a lot of fights breaking out.
Okay.
It's very common like almost every day.
So how do you feel about transgender women entering like Jesus Christ?
That's girl.
Go ahead, say your thing.
Yeah, so I don't like, like, I have a preference.
I don't want to date anybody who's trans, but if that is your preference and how about jail though?
Oh, like prison?
Yeah.
Like trans women being kept.
I do believe they should definitely provide that.
Because if you identify as a woman and you're a man and not a woman and you don't feel safe and comfortable to be in a main jail, I don't think they should force you to be in that.
If Brian identifies as a woman, and do you think he should be let into a women's prison?
Ideally, I would think maybe there needs to be like I know protective custody is something that is available for people who were like, I would say known in the media.
I'm not sure.
I'm not a policymaker, but I don't want to make men uncomfortable.
Also, don't want to make women uncomfortable.
So honestly, I don't have a perfect answer for it.
I think there should be a separate way for them.
Hey, Tiffany, if I went to prison and I like wanted to have a conjugal visit, would you be down?
No.
Oh.
Okay.
Jeez, wow.
Okay.
Rude.
Why would I visit you?
What if I...
Like I...
Never mind.
Okay.
All right.
Do you have a debate about men versus women?
Did you have?
You got it?
I did say that.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm not joking.
I have asked the last three dudes I dated for their own donated $100.
Brian W being Corporal L solely to provide for family.
Necessity for man.
No fulfillment.
Bow or be homeless thimble munch Mormons trying their best stop hating pink jacket spits facts.
How does girl number one think Islam and Christianity can mix?
75% slash 25% go ahead.
Um, I was born a Muslim and raised a Muslim up until like fifth grade, and then I switched to Christian school, but I'm still Muslim.
And then four months ago, I got baptized, and the reason why I'm 75 has not haram.
Wait, you're 75 what?
Muslim.
25%.
No, no, 75% Muslim and 25%.
75%.
Abdul?
Yeah.
Get the rocks.
Okay, go.
She said it.
Okay, well, I meant 75 Muslim, 25 Christian.
And the reason why I say I'm 75 and 25 is because, oh.
Is because I'm still like exploring what I want to be.
Even though it sounds a little gay, but I'm exploring what I want to be.
Like, which religion I want to insert myself into fully.
If that makes sense.
Or whoever asked it.
Okay.
The word.
Cool.
Cool, cool.
Oh, the videos.
I'm not joking.
I have asked the last three dudes I dated for their bank account info on the first date.
I don't judge people's actions.
I look at the intention behind it.
So, like, why do you ask for that?
Because I only want to date a wealthy guy that has money.
Valid, so you're getting straight to the point.
I think, you know, I have a job.
I'm very successful.
So I think I have every right to be like, hi, are we on the same level or am I wasting my time?
That's harsh.
She's, I think she's probably, I don't know the details.
I mean, she dropped the ball with the Caller Daddy thing, but she started her own podcast.
She's probably a millionaire.
She seems to care very deeply about a guy's income, despite the fact that she's a millionaire.
I would argue that there's very few men who are millionaires who'd like their girl to be a millionaire.
Like, they just don't.
Most men do not care.
How old is she, do you know?
Late, maybe lid.
She's mid to late 20s.
I feel like especially a lot of men that are mid-20s are not on her level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like not even on her level yet.
So if she's dating within her age range, she's most likely not going to find a guy as financially successful.
Even older, most she's a millionaire, so most men are not.
I think the average income is what?
I think it's changed recently, but it used to be what, $45,000 per year now, maybe.
I've heard $60,000, but I don't know what it actually is.
Good times, good times.
Okay, I got some notes from everybody here.
We're going to get into the notes for all of you.
Flake, flake.
I got notes for people that flaked.
Gotta love it.
Delilah, I had some notes for Delilah, but she got the boot.
Tiffany.
Ah, yes, Tiffany.
Yes, here we are.
I already talked about it.
Oh, no, we have more.
We have more.
Actually, wait, let's go to.
Hold on.
Did you provide anything?
Wait, what are you talking?
Did you provide any?
You did, Ellie, right?
Okay.
Or excuse me.
I misread it.
Elle.
Recently out of a four-year relationship, was it four or three-year?
It was like three and a half.
Okay.
But like four.
You wrote, my boyfriend of eight months cheated on me, and I found out by looking through his phone because he was acting weird.
We then continued dating for three more years.
I think you told us some of this in the beginning.
He was an actor, and you have a lot of opinions now about why you should not date an actor or someone in the industry.
So what about the actor thing?
I think dating.
Okay, so from my experience, dating an actor, there's okay, so like basically what we were previously talking about, how, you know, if women work, they wouldn't have enough time for the guy, whatever.
Sometimes the guy does not, like, actors do not have time for you if they're working.
Like, wait, really?
No, like, because most actors don't have jobs.
Well, well, when they don't have a job, they're like in a deep depression.
They're all up on you.
And then, and then once they get a job, they're like not there.
Like, it's because obviously they have to dedicate their entire time to their role or becoming someone else or working.
So it's just so much.
Can you?
Is it the famous actor that you dated?
I can't, I can't say who it is, but you have a Wikipedia page.
Yes.
How old are you?
He's a child.
He's a child actor.
He's a child actor.
And he's a child actor and voice actor.
And he's obviously an actor right now.
Disney?
Nickelodeon?
Nickelodeon or Disney?
Both.
Both?
Jake Paul?
Yeah.
No.
No.
Why did you forgive him after he cheated on because it wasn't, what do you call it?
It wasn't physical.
It was like, it was all like through the phone, if you know what I mean.
And it was worse.
No, just wait, what was over the phone?
Well, the cheating.
Yeah, like they would FaceTime every night and good times.
It got cheating.
No, it's still.
Trust me, it was hard to get.
Maybe it was funny.
It was hard to get that.
Maybe they were practicing for a while.
They were role-playing, yeah.
No, like he was, that was one of the fellow actresses, and he was, they were, what's the, what's the, what's it called when you're like rehearsing?
They were rehearsing.
They were just rehearsing.
It was just rehearsing.
It was just rehearsal.
It was no big deal.
It was no big deal.
No big deal.
Was she an actor too?
No, she was like a random person.
Like really random.
I like to call myself a normie.
Oh, you're a normie?
I like the normie.
No, she was like a random weirdie.
Like weird.
Oh, she was a weirdo.
Okay.
Random weirdo.
You said when we broke it off, I also started situationships with multiple people.
Yes.
And I also have major opinions on situationships.
If you are in a situationship, make sure to just be there for your own satisfaction, but don't treat them like you would if you were in a relationship.
I think they need to be so separated.
That was your emphasis, not mine.
You say, don't treat them like you would if you were in a relationship.
Treat them how.
What do you mean?
Well, because like they didn't cuff you.
Do you know what I mean?
So why give them the benefits of yourself?
Like why give them the benefits of having you, you know, I don't know, cook them breakfast or like be girlfriend material or you know, like dedicate time to being with them without actually without like being excluded, like exclusive.
Do you know what I mean?
You know what's so what's really interesting?
That's actually, can you repeat that what you just said?
I just said a lot.
Well, you said not like you wouldn't cook for them, for example.
Yeah.
But you would what?
Have sex with them.
Yeah.
What's really interesting to me is how we approach and view sex.
People are so prepared to share what perhaps used to be their most like the most intimate thing that you could do some with somebody.
You'll fuck a guy, but the thought of cooking him dinner, that's where you draw the line.
Like this most intimate act where you're like naked in front of each other and he's inside of you physically.
Yeah.
But you draw the line.
Like it's just interesting.
It is interesting.
It's an interesting thing.
Honestly, like it's so new for me.
Like, not being in a relationship.
So, like, I typically treat situationships like I would a relationship, but I'm realizing that's not working.
Like, I don't know, it doesn't really work.
Which I think is valid.
I think a guy who knows what he wants and is presented with what he wants, like, right in front of him, is going to commit to you right away rather than just string it along for a situationship.
But I also feel like younger men that are around our age are just not going to be that for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Is it true that between the first two one and two dates that guys know if she's girlfriend material or not?
Like, if he wants to be her girlfriend?
I think, I mean, I think it takes a lot longer to vet a girl for relationship status.
But I mean, I think we can pretty quickly disqualify women.
Like, it's if there's like something we like, there's something we can detect very early on, and we're like, no, go.
Like, a red flag.
Yeah, like, I think it's very easy to, like, disqualify somebody, but I think to actually qualify for a relationship, I think that can take a little bit longer.
What about for a marriage?
How long do you think it takes guys to know if he wants to marry the girl or not?
Years.
Years.
I think it takes like a few months.
It took my dad two weeks.
I mean, yeah, there's that, but also, like, there's still year-long relationships, like I said earlier, that ends up.
Stop don't up getting Tiffany.
Gertrude.
What's her last name?
You.
Tiffany Gertrude.
You.
Will you marry me?
No.
Wow.
She has a man.
No, she doesn't have a man.
She's got an Alabama, dude.
It's not a man.
Stop being so disrespectful.
Being disrespectful.
To Brandt.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
You're not.
You're single.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a marriage proposal.
I know.
When you told me that you were a racist, that's when I knew you were the one for me.
When you said everybody's a little racist, that's when I knew.
I thought that was valid.
It's true.
I'm being honest.
Yeah, that's when I knew, though, that you were the one.
Okay, just kidding.
Good talk.
Tiffany.
By the way, Tiffany's Tiffany's a red.
Who was the guy super chatting that a girl named Tiffany run?
Who was that?
Remember last show, guys?
You say that.
No, somebody said in the super chat, somebody, or like with a TTS, that Tiffany is a red flag.
Wait, chat.
No, no, the name Tiffany.
Tiffany.
Oh, okay.
The name Tiffany, it's a red flag.
Tiffany's a little bit more.
Well, there's like girl's name Tiffany.
Well, yeah, they're either ABGs.
Are they?
Or are you an ABG?
I don't think so.
You don't think she's an ABG?
Oh, you're, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Either an ABG or like a rich white girl or a black girl.
Tiffany.
I feel like Tiffany's a stripper name.
What?
Yeah.
Tiffany, you got Tiffany.
You got Diamond.
You got Natalia.
I feel like it's Tiffany.
It's like breakfast at Tiffany's, like Tiffany and Co.
Okay.
Yeah.
Tiffany Trump.
You know what we should do?
We should have inside us.
We hire chat.
What do you think about this?
We hire Tiffany to be Madison, but on the other side of the table.
So you know when you come over here and you see Madison back there spazzing out.
How much do you pay?
Slave wages.
So no pay?
No, no, I pay.
Slave wage is zero.
Oh, we'll talk about it after the show.
We'll talk about it after the show, okay?
Okay, we can talk.
We'll negotiate.
It's all good.
I've been watching that documentary about Sylvester still alone on Netflix.
Okay.
Where were we?
Were we?
Wait.
What's an ABG?
Like, what makes an Asian woman?
I thought it was a boba girl.
It was more of a Bob.
I thought it was Asian boba girl.
I know what it stands for, but like, what makes an Asian woman an ABG?
Typically, if they have dyed hair and they wear makeup and fake lashes, and like they have to be a hoe.
They have to be honest.
They have to be a hoe?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
Search it up.
Google definition.
Eh, it doesn't really matter.
Oh, so I think we were talking about you, the situationship relationship thing.
You said that when you broke it off, you started situationships with multiple people.
And this was, wait, you broke it off three months ago?
Oh, we kind of talked a little bit about that.
How many, what was the most situationships?
Was it just the three?
I would just say that.
Or did you have like five on the roster back then?
No, like I got right when I got the relationship, I like got into a situationship with someone.
Immediately?
Yeah.
Like within a week.
Like it was weird.
I think it was like my coping.
Were you like mentally checked out of the relationship?
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Fleml.
Before you broke up with him?
That's a good question.
I think I was ready to end it with a few months in.
And I actually tried to break up with him a few times and like he didn't let me.
What do you mean?
Just like he, I don't know, like I try to break it off like just saying like I think we need to like go her both ways and he's like, no, I'll give you like the attention and like love you deserve type thing and then like never actually did it.
King.
King.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
But yeah.
Okay.
You also said first you wanted to talk about first dates.
Is there anything in specific that you wanted to talk about on that?
I actually, yeah, like especially with college, I feel like, at least in my position, a lot of guys like don't really offer like first dates.
They're kind of like, yo, you want to hang?
Or like, we should go chill, like, type vibe.
You know, it's not very like, yo, let me take you out type thing, especially in college.
Like, most people in college, like, girls and guys, typically don't really go on like first dates.
It's kind of just you meet each other at like a party or something while you're out and then you just start hanging out and then it goes into something like a situationship talking stage and then it's like a relationship.
It's never a proper like you're going to date.
But you couldn't currently consider yourself single, right?
Yeah.
So my view on this though is do you think that you are worthy of being taken out on a date?
What do you mean by worthy?
Well, you consider yourself single, right?
So that means you're like it would be free.
I would be open to be getting asked out or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So my concern as a guy, I don't want to, because like taking a girl out, that's kind of like being a gentleman, that's being traditional, that's being in your traditional gender roles.
You said earlier on in the show that you have a roster of three guys, that you're the main guy that you're seeing, you saw him this morning.
Yeah.
Like, so you guys, what, hooked up last night or whatever?
Yeah.
Like, I know, for example, if I were to ask you out, again, just met you, we're not exclusive.
I don't want to like go take a girl out to like some romantic date, get a nice dinner, pay for flowers, whatever.
When like, let's say the day of I took you out on a date, you saw your situationship earlier that morning.
Um, what is that?
Like, what do you mean?
Why am I gonna, okay.
You said you're in the streets currently.
Is that correct?
Your words, your words, not mine, right?
Yeah, I guess I would say.
I'm not gonna be, I can't be a gentleman.
I don't wanna be a gentleman.
To this woman of the streets.
To a woman from the streets.
Wait, no, like, I think we have different terms of streets.
Like, I use it, like, in a joking term type thing.
Here's the thing.
Sure, but you said.
Okay, okay, okay, yeah.
You said you have a roster of three guys right now.
So you're talking about it.
I'm not doing anything like sexual with one of them and the other one was only sexual.
Sure, but like, okay.
Can I ask you a question, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So if I asked you out on the just as a hypothetical, I'm not saying that you would date me or whatever, but let's say that I asked you out on a date and then we went on a date and it was good.
And then the guy who you're currently sleeping with, like we went on the date, we said goodbye at 9 p.m.
I gave you, we hugged each other, boom.
And then like, is it possible that you could end up at your fuck buddy's house after our date?
No.
It's not, it's impossible.
I wouldn't say impossible.
He texts you, he's like, what's up?
Let me dick appointment.
Let's go.
I don't.
I feel like people that are talking to other, or people that have a roster, I guess, or that are talking to other people are, that's kind of expected in college thing.
No, it's, it, it is the dating landscape, certainly in college, and I would argue even beyond college, that's how people move.
But, like, I don't think you can be like, and there's still going to be simps.
There's still going to be guys that are, like, don't know that you're seeing other guys.
A lot of guys are naive and they'll take a girl out on a date not knowing that she's got like three fuck buddies.
But like, I know the dating landscape and I don't feel particularly inclined to take a girl out on a date when she's fucking other dudes.
Like, I don't even want to date that chick.
I don't want to talk to her because for me, I want a girl who's properly single from the jump.
Like, if you got another guy in the picture, you can have him.
Like, I don't want to deal with a girl that is seeing other dudes.
So.
Well, to, like, just to say, like, I would only see like one, I can really only see like one person at a time.
But since I'm not like, you know, there's, there's no momentum of it moving forward, I am looking at other people, if you know what I mean.
Sure.
I guess for me, like, for me to fall into my traditional gender roles of like wanting to take a girl out or whatever, I would want from the jump your undivided romantic and sexual attention.
If either one of those is divided, if you're sleeping with another guy and talking to me, I don't want you.
If you're like romantically talking to other men, I don't want you.
My view is once I come into your life, I want like it's a wrap.
It has to be a wrap on all the other dudes.
No, I completely agree.
Like I'm saying like, so like let's say you have like a roster or like a situationship.
You go on a date with this guy, it's a match.
You had the best time.
I would probably stop talking to those other guys.
Probably.
Probably.
If that person that I went on a date with was someone that I saw potential with, I would definitely scratch the situationship and go with that person.
Because I am a loyal person.
I'm not like, oh, I'm going to see a bunch of, like, I'm loyal during the talking stage, if you know what I mean.
Are you?
But you're in the talking stage right now.
No, because I know it's.
You're in a talking stage with three guys right now.
No, one is scratched.
Celibacy is scratched.
Celibate.
Celibate is scratched.
The main guy right now is the only guy I'm talking to.
And the other guy, the other one is just like flirty banter.
Could be potential.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I mean?
It's not like all of the people loyal.
I wouldn't really consider that loyal.
I mean, the thing is, is like, because there's one guy, you're hooking up with one guy, and then you're like talking to another guy.
I know that you said that, like, the guy who you're currently hooking up with, you're like, yeah, I'm probably going to dump him.
Well, he said he doesn't want a relationship.
So, but do you want a relationship?
What do you want?
Yeah.
Because some girls are cool.
I mean, maybe I'm just going to be.
Just doing the casual thing.
Nah.
After being in an almost four-year relationship, I don't think I am looking necessarily for a relationship right now.
But if someone came along that I saw potential in or something, I would most definitely.
You down?
Do you want to get married?
I would most definitely want to, you know, pursue it.
I'm kidding, Chad.
I'm kidding.
You'd pursue it.
Okay.
It just depends on the person.
If you meet someone and you guys vibe, it's a match.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I just haven't met that person.
Yeah.
And look, my whole thing is like with the dating landscape as it is, I don't feel particularly inclined to like if I can tell, like, if I get a sense that the girl is all for me, then I'm like, yeah, I'll take care of you.
Like, I'll handle everything.
But if she's not, yeah, we can split the bill.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
Or because then it's like friends with Benny type thing.
Well, here's the other thing, though, is like if, and, and I wished that like a girl I'd potentially be seeing is open.
Like, I don't even, some guys, even if they just want to hook up with a girl, just want casual sex, which I don't really want, they're cool with like fucking a girl who's fucking other guys.
I don't know if I'm wired different, but like, even if it's like, I just met the girl and I know she's fucking another dude, it's done.
I don't care if I just met you.
I don't, like, again, you do, technically, you don't owe me anything, but if she's fucking another guy and I'm talking to her, it's, I, I don't want to, I don't want anything to do with a girl who, when I'm trying to pursue her, she's fucking another dude.
It's a wrap.
It's done for me.
Oh, that's so valid.
Yeah.
So some guys are like, yeah, I don't really care.
Even if, even if, hmm, because, well, here's my thing.
I don't really, I don't really want to pursue.
Sorry, I lost my train of thought.
I'm not interested in a one-night stand with a girl.
Like, if I want to sleep with the girl, I want to pursue something with her.
I want to keep seeing her.
I want to keep seeing her.
So to sleep with the girl once to me is like a waste of time.
But I know there's a lot of guys that want to move like that.
Like just fuck a chick once and never talk to her again.
I think that's kind of weird.
Even if your motivation was strictly sex, first off, you're going to have way better sex as you have more sex with the person.
You start getting comfortable with them.
You build a connection.
Absolutely.
You just, on a purely like technical level, you know what gets them off.
They know what gets you off.
And then again, like, I don't know.
I'm trying to think.
Like a girl who fucking loves you is going to fuck you.
If you're again, if your motivation is purely sex, if a girl's in love with you, that's like, if she really feels you, the sex is going to be way better than if she's just like, all right, here's some random fucking party dude.
Okay, like, I don't know.
It's just, uh, but uh, no, for me, though, what I was gonna say related to that, even if my motivation was strictly just to hook up with a girl, I would I know some guys are like, I don't, yeah, like, if she's a slut, then I'll still get with her just for sex.
Like, no, if she's a slut, I don't want anything to do with her anyways.
No, yeah, that means I don't know.
Um, yeah, valid word, word, like, actually, makes sense, yeah.
And I don't know if that's weird to like, because like uh we had a clip recently that went viral.
There's this girl named Layla who's who does OnlyFans, and she was like, She's done porn, right?
And I told her, like, that's a there's videos of you on the internet having sex with another man.
Like, that's a that's I don't care how hot the girl is, even if she's like leaps and bounds more attractive than me.
I don't care how hot she is.
If there's videos of you on the internet, I don't even want to have sex with you once.
I don't want anything to do with you.
So, well, like thoughts on your partner, like in the relationship being like, hey, can I start an OnlyFans?
Would you be like, Absolutely not?
Like, I don't think I could do that.
I don't think what do you mean?
You don't think you could start an OnlyFans?
No, like, I definitely could not do OnlyFans, but I don't know.
I feel like it would make sense for a guy not wanting their girlfriend or something to not do.
Did you break up just for asking?
Yeah, that's probably, I mean, I feel like I don't want to flip-flop on my position a little bit because my previous, and I've mentioned this a bunch of times.
My previous stance when it comes to OnlyFans is so, and again, I feel like I'm shifting a little bit, and I don't want to flip-flop.
My hard stance is: if she's had sex with a guy on camera, that's a no.
I don't care how fucking hot she is.
I don't care how cool she is.
If she's had sex with another man on camera, no go.
No go.
My position was if she's done like lingerie shit or like solo content, so there's no dudes.
Maybe.
I've never been with a girl, I've never hooked up with a girl.
I've never dated a girl who has an OnlyFans, but I was like, maybe.
I'm, I'm, like, very again.
Would you want half the profits if she did?
If you maybe dated someone like that?
Would I want half of her money?
Because I know some men allow their girls to do OnlyFans, but they don't.
Yeah, I mean, it's more of a question of could I pull it off.
I don't think like most OnlyFans girls, if I'm dating them, would split their money with me if I was helping her in some way, I suppose.
But like, I don't, it's so far, I've never, I've not dated a girl who does OnlyFans, even solo content, haven't hooked up with a girl who does OnlyFans.
Is it possible that there's some girl who's done lingerie content that's fucking amazing and super hot and I like?
It could be possible, but I mean, there's a lot of fish in the sea.
There's a lot of women that don't have OnlyFans that are just as attractive, just as cool personalities.
So I don't really think I feel the need to, uh, but I mean, I guess it's possible that I could I could, but no, Madison's saying no.
Oh, I don't want to be too rude, but I think it's a little bit gross when a woman sells her body online.
It's immodest.
It's no different than modest.
That's a better way to put it.
But she's basically a product.
She's no different than that water bottle over there.
Her OnlyFans is a shop, but the only difference is she's a product.
So I think it's immodest.
Sure.
And do you like OnlyFans girls?
No, generally speaking, I don't, because I think there's also certain personality traits that come along with being involved in that line of work, even if you're just doing like tasteful lingerie shit.
Like you are interacting with men on a certain level that I think is kind of not so great.
So again, like, again, I've not dated a girl who does OnlyFans.
I've not hooked up with a girl who does OnlyFans.
Could there conceivably be, and I'm just being honest here, like I could lie and say I would never, she's never done nudity, but she's got lingerie photos.
Conceivably, it's within the realm of possibilities.
I think it's a sub-optimal partner choice.
And there's plenty of women that I could date that don't have OnlyFans.
So yeah.
But I don't want to sit here and lie and say, no, I would never.
Like, again, my 100% deal breaker is if they've done boy girl content, like they filmed with a guy.
That's 100% deal breaker.
But, yeah.
So Kim Kardashian's off the table.
Yes.
If she asked you on a date, would you go on a date with her?
Well, I'm just going to be very honest here.
And like most, I feel like maybe you got to respect my honesty here.
Me partnering, and this maybe I'm a fucking gold digger for this one.
Me partnering with Kim Kardashian would have such fucking tangible business benefit to me that I would be an idiot to not do it.
But like from a purely fucking, at least respect the honesty.
But like the, she's like one of the most what followed people on Instagram, insane amounts of clout.
I would be a fucking business more idiot to not romantically link up with her.
However, like the fact that she's had a long string of you know what Kim K slat into my DMs.
We'll see what that is.
Yeah, come on.
Kim K, I'm available.
I'll date.
Fine.
I'll date you.
I don't like the plastic surgery, though.
So I don't know.
Did she get her BBL out?
My aunt died from a BBL.
Say that again, Madison.
My aunt died from a BBL.
Don't get a BBL.
Don't get a BBL.
Oh my gosh.
That's really sad.
I'm sorry.
People die from plastic surgery.
How big did she want it?
I don't know.
I don't know the deets, but.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shit is crazy.
So, Kim K. My DMs are going to be a little bit more.
Back to it.
Oh, finger guns.
What's up?
Boom-boom.
I feel like a lot of like OnlyFans and just like sex workers always will like, if we're, if this is, like, the discussion, they'll always bring up like, oh, what do you think about Kim K?
Like, she has her sex take, her sex tape leap leaked and everything.
Like, she's no better than I am.
But at the same time, she has more money, wealth, and power than all these, like, OnlyFans and porn stars do, that she can get rid of it.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, she's like a lot, she's a lot smarter than these OnlyFans and porn stars.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Why do you say she's smarter?
Is roasting me for the Kim K show.
She literally got all of this because of that tape.
You know who released that tape?
Her mother, right?
Yeah, her and her mom are really smart because they knew that she'd get clout from that.
So that's why I say she's really smart.
Don't you think OnlyFans creators also try to do that too?
How many celebrities has that right?
But probably a lot.
Like, do you think?
I feel like a lot of celebrities pro I don't know.
I'm just speculating.
Like, isn't it possible that, like, don't a lot of celebrities have herpes?
Like, I've heard that a lot of people.
Timothy Chalamay has, like, AIDS or something.
What?
Shit, no way.
No, fuck.
Did you make that happen?
No, no.
He has something.
He like spread it around NYU or something.
I forget what it was.
The herp?
Herp.
The herps.
It might have been the herps or some something.
Some sexually transmitted.
Timothy Chalamay be fucking.
He be getting around NYU, man.
Would you fuck Timothy?
Would you fuck Timothy Chalamet?
Is he your type?
No, he's too scrawny.
He's too scrawny.
I think he would be a really fun friend, but I don't think I would ever.
I would kick it with Timothy.
I would kick it with him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good shit.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm not got chat.
I'm not simping for Kim K. You just, yeah, you did.
I'm just saying, as a businessman, you know I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of business.
I would.
I gotta.
Celebrities date, you know, the relationships and the.
Wait, I feel like Kim K would date you.
You think she would?
I feel like she would.
Would she?
I don't think so.
What?
No.
She dated Kim.
Fuck you, Tim.
Fuck you, Tiffany.
She dated Pete Davidson.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
But he also, like, kind of looks black.
Pete?
Yeah.
I don't think.
I don't think so.
You don't think he does?
There's like a whole husband.
Her first husband was like.
Stop it.
Get some help.
She doesn't only date black guys.
Yeah, what's up?
What's up?
Okay, so let's just say scenario, you have to pick what's been Kim K or this chick who's 4'11, plays cello, like basically what you're looking for, perfect person.
I know there's not like the perfect person, but let's just say for scenario, question-wise, and you had to pick right now, which one would you pick?
He would go for the 4'11 cello girl.
No.
No, you would not.
Go for what?
No answer, answer.
411.
What's the labia situation?
Does she have a large labia?
Just like anything you wanted, basically.
None of you answered that question, by the way.
You're a perfect girl.
Yeah, you probably have like an ideal girl.
She has a large labia.
And if you pick Kim Kalama.
So what am I getting from Kim K?
Is she going to marry me without a prenup?
I feel like that's asking too many questions.
Just like I, like, what's your, like, would you pick love over money, like, given the context of having the opportunity to date your ideal girl?
Or would you want more of a business partnership that elevates your business?
And it could potentially be a good romantic relationship, but it's not your ideal.
Porque no los dos?
Yeah, why not both?
I'll take both.
I got my 4'11 large labia queen.
And then I got Kim K. Kim K can be the main, and then I have like mistresses and shit.
So valid.
Girl, bye.
Tiffany, stop looking at me that way, fucking pervert.
What the fuck?
You're weird.
Why do you care about labia so much?
What the fuck is that?
Do you just stare down there like the whole time?
Why is that weird?
Why is that weird?
You just said you need a big dick.
Like, what?
I did not say that.
Oh, sister, sorry, that was the rest of the girls.
That was the rest of us.
Bro, like, I've, in the same way that women are allowed to have a genitalia preference, I have a genitalia preference.
Don't get me wrong, like, innies are great too.
Like, I don't, it's not a deal breaker, but if she's got an Audi, what's up?
DMs are up in.
What's just weird?
Like, you're focusing on them.
I'm like, we're not talking about size.
We're just talking about size.
We're not talking about like curves and shit.
What the fuck?
Yeah, and I'm talking about size too.
Size of the labia, son.
Okay.
You know how she goes like this?
I go like this.
Well, I think we can have an innie and.
I go like, what?
You can have an innie and have like a big labia, right?
Can't you?
No, it doesn't really.
I mean, there's inner labia, outer labia.
I think there's everything.
So you like it inverted?
Like, I'm so confused.
He likes it.
Like, it's like, everything's out there.
Like a heart-shaped box, you know?
Okay.
Like butterfly wings.
Oh, so you like it open.
Audi open.
Audi, yeah.
Oh, an outia.
An outie.
Labia.
Oh my god, I'm gonna search belly buttons.
Okay.
No.
No, not belly buttons.
What the fuck?
Okay, never mind.
No, give me an innie for a belly button.
Why is it sus?
No, it's you.
You're the one who's making the big deal about the shrimp thing.
You have a preference.
I have a pussy preference.
Yeah, surprise.
It's funny because, like.
Like, you like big, like...
Giant pussy.
You like loose.
No, it's funny.
It doesn't mean loose.
If you like that.
You can have an Audi.
Do you know what an inny outie looks like?
Do you know what it looks like?
I mean, I know, I know.
Are you rocking?
I feel like every girl knows what an innocent.
No, every girl knows what an inn and out is.
I don't study them.
You should.
I mean, you don't have to study it to like know what it looks like.
I've studied it quite thoroughly, I must say.
Online or like physically?
Both.
I went to school for it.
Are you a munch?
What's a munch?
He's not a munch.
No, he's not a munch.
Bro, you're a virgin.
What the fuck?
That's really good, actually.
I'm glad you said he's not.
Wait, so, like, a munch is a... Someone who eats pussy?
Yeah.
Yeah, are you one of those?
I mean, I don't like the term munch, but no, it's not, I don't do it.
That's good.
I was going to say, because like a lot of men don't know this, but you're basically cleaning out all the other dicks that were inside of her when you're eating her out.
Based.
That's why I don't do it.
But that's why.
No, no, no.
That shit lingers.
That shit lingers, sonny.
These girls be dripping three days later.
It's no.
Three days later, just oh my god.
You know.
You know.
What?
You know.
What do you mean?
Bro, girls be leaking that shit out.
It lingers in there.
It changes.
Plus, it changes the pH a little bit.
If a guy's just blasting up inside.
Tiffany, stop working on me that's a good idea.
Do you like munches?
She hasn't had a munch.
She's it for lunch.
I don't know.
Okay.
She is a virgin, though, so I feel like virgin.
Ice spice reference.
Traditional man's favorite girl.
Yeah.
My friend loves you.
Why'd you say it like that?
I don't know.
That's how you talk.
No, I don't.
You definitely talk that way, Tiffany.
No, I do not.
Oh, my God.
Yes, you do.
Okay.
Wait.
Look, what I will say, like, a lot of, like, shit, okay, on the munch.
Grid One Motorsports donated $100.
Brian doesn't want to die from a bad clam.
Speaking of which, there's been some articles that have surfaced recently.
I...
One of the reasons I stopped doing it, the last time I went down on a girl was in the Bush administration.
I don't know if you remember that presidency, the Bush administration, 2007, 2008.
That's the last time I went down on a girl.
I did it a couple times.
How old are you again?
34.
I'm a dinosaur.
34.
You're a millennial?
Are you a millennial?
I'm millennial, yeah.
Yeah.
We got screwed in the 2007 financial, or was it 2008?
I don't know.
That's crazy.
Crazy, bro.
What was I saying?
Yeah, it's been a minute.
Like, I did it a couple times.
Articles?
I didn't like it.
Did you even enjoy it?
Actually, you know, it's not that bad, truth be told, but like, like you said, and this kind of relates to the not paying for first dates thing, is like, if she's sleeping with other men, I don't know, like, if it's a new girl.
Yeah, but she's your wife.
Would you?
Yeah.
Neck problems.
Wait, but then, like, would you make her give you like make my girl, like, I wouldn't make a girl do anything, but some girls don't really care about that, and they'll still give you head.
Yeah.
I think, like, I'm so anti-head.
Anti-what?
Giving head?
You don't like giving head?
Even if a guy gives it to you?
No, I just, I just, like, don't like it in general.
You don't like receiving, you don't like giving.
I just haven't had an experience where, like, it was, like, oh my god, this is, like, life-changing.
To give it or to receive it?
Well, certainly to give it, I imagine.
Yeah, both.
Like, both, I guess.
Wait.
Okay.
I used to be like that.
Oh, that's what I was going to say.
You were?
Yeah, I used to be like that.
She used to be like that.
You got a boyfriend?
And then she got a man.
She got a man.
Ooh, purr.
Show that ring.
So my whole thing, though, is even though I don't like to, and I'm not like trying to rub it in someone's face, like it's just a personal preference for me.
I still definitely want to make my girl come.
Like I preferably, she comes before I come.
So it's not like this like greedy thing where it's I don't want to give my girl pleasure.
I absolutely want to give my girl pleasure.
It makes the sex better.
It feels better for me.
Certainly if she comes, but there's other ways to go about making a girl come than giving her head.
So yeah, for me, it's just.
It's a very submissive thing for a man to do.
I feel like it's not even that for me.
It's just more so like the potential risks of like if she's seeing other guys, even a relationship, she could be cheating.
Who knows?
That would kind of gross me out if she was fucking another dude.
And then it is a bit different.
There's differences.
And yeah.
Good talk.
Good talk, guys.
Good talk.
Let's see.
What was I going to say?
Wait, has a guy never made you come from that?
From like just head?
Yeah.
No.
Oh.
Oh.
Hey, question for the girls here who have had sex.
Has a guy, guys made you, has, some women have never even come ever.
Is this too much?
It's giving color, daddy.
Oh.
I'm just kidding.
I've only had sex with one person, my boyfriend, so I don't even know what it's supposed to be.
But I do know that it does feel good.
So I have nothing to compare it to.
Oh.
So, well, I don't know.
Gavin?
Is his name Gavin?
Yeah, it's Gavin.
Gavin does.
does what well i was gonna ask like i don't think he's on it also takes longer for uh girls to have like actual like satisfaction Yeah, it does.
Not all women, though.
I've met someone.
Not even just during the moment, but it just takes a while for sex to feel good to women.
Oh, I see what you mean.
I see what you mean.
It takes a bit of getting, yeah.
I will say, though, in the actual moment, generally speaking, I think you're right.
Most women struggle climaxing or it can take a while.
However, there are some women that that shit's like instant.
It's crazy, son.
But they're probably more sexually experienced.
No, not even.
Like some, some women come like literally within like five seconds and then they have those tip, those women are typically women who come really easily are typically multi-orgasmic.
So they'll come like 10 times.
Oh.
That's a keeper right there.
What?
What?
If she comes fast, that's a keeper.
Yeah, it's great.
Why?
Do you feel you can come faster?
Yeah, yeah, Madison.
Yeah.
No, it's just like it relieves so much of the pressure.
No, Nick, have you ever had like a girl who comes really quick?
Shut up, Nick.
Come on.
I totally agree.
There are those people.
Have you had a girl like that?
They're fucking rare.
They're multi-orgasmic.
I think I've only, oh, fuck, I shouldn't.
might reveal i don't reveal my body count but uh Okay, fine.
I'll give, here, this is for the chat.
This will.
This isn't revealing my body count, but I've encountered three women.
So you guys can determine how rare this is and you can do the math.
I've encountered three women that are like insanely multi-orgasmic.
That it's like literally 10 seconds, boom.
30 seconds later, 30 seconds later, 30 seconds later.
Typically, a lot of these women squirt too.
Good talk.
Isn't that just P though?
Like, that's what I've done.
Yes, technically.
No, it's not.
They've done studies on this.
It's P. What is it?
It's P. Some.
Some people did a study and they pretty much put blue dye into the woman's bladder, right?
And then when she squirted, it was blue coming out.
So it's a mixture of P and a mixture of, you know, the wet stuff.
So it's a bit, but it is P. That's sus.
Okay.
Good talk.
Good talk.
Oh, I have a few more things.
Wait, okay, we were talking about munch, oral.
Cam H.
We talked about Cam H.
Oh, height.
I wanted to go around on height on this.
I think all of you said that you want a guy who's taller than you, right?
So what's your height and what's like the bare minimum height that you'd want for a guy?
Go ahead.
And maybe like ideal.
I'm 5'2 ⁇ , and the bare minimum is what I'm dating now.
It's 6'4.
6'4?
That's the minimum?
No, but I'm not gonna be with anyone else, so I can set that as my minimum.
Are you going to marry?
We have an agreement, but...
What?
Well, I don't want to say it.
Say, say, say, say, say.
No, no, I can't.
Is it like, you're not going to get married, but?
No, no, we're going to get, we're, we have like an agreement, but I signed like, we both agreed not to share.
A. Is it a prenup?
You signed a pre-nup?
No, no, not a pre-nup.
No, not share one.
Like an NDA?
But no, it's not.
Yeah, we sign like an NDA, basically, not to say anything.
But like, so we're dating, but we have this agreement for the future.
And that's basically it.
Is he Muslim?
No, he's Catholic, but he wants to convert to Islam?
Yeah.
So you can have multiple wives.
Is that what you're getting at?
No, I don't want a man with multiple wives.
But if he, like, if we break off and he has it, I totally 100% go do it.
I'll help him find the wives, too.
Wait, what's this weird agreement that you can't talk about?
It's a secret.
I'll tell you later.
It's a secret.
I like the mystery.
Thank you.
I'm trying to like pontificate.
Can if you can come up with it, like what you think it is and you say it like aloud and it's correct, I'll say you're correct if not.
It's related, but it's related to marriage, right?
Related to long term, yeah.
Oh, related to long term.
Is this like a legit like agreement?
Like people have to sign papers related to it.
I've not thought about it.
No, no, it's not like a paper.
We didn't write it down.
It's just like an agreement we have from mouth to mouth speaking.
It's not like, hey, dude, I thought it was like, you like, no, it's not like sign this.
This is what we have.
Like, it's not like that.
By a certain age.
Oh, mouth to mouth resuscitation.
Speaking.
Some people have this agreement where it's like, if they're both single by like this age, they're going to get married.
I was going to say that, but you guys are together, so it's like, no.
But if you think of it, I'll tell you, yeah.
But if not, like, we'll just nothing's occurring to me, so I'm not even going to bother guessing.
You wanted to talk about dating etiquette.
Was there anything with dating etiquette that you wanted to touch on?
No, I think it's like loose pussy energy donated $99.
The fuck are we talking about?
What the fuck are we talking about?
What the fuck does Tystrokid have to do with this fucking conversation?
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I love that that's my hashtag.
I was so tilted that show.
Yo, thank you, LP.
Appreciate it, man.
Dating etiquette, what did you have for us?
I mean, in terms of just like what we were talking about, like I think dating etiquette in terms of like, oh, like being taken out on a date, you know, flowers, like just different things like that are just are not, I feel like, present in college life.
I feel like.
I don't think, honestly, like.
Yeah, yeah.
Most girls would not find that attractive.
What?
Most girls, like, because I feel like if a guy's too into a girl, especially early on, most girls are like.
No, totally.
Maybe in the past that used to fly, but now I feel like most women, flowers, they're going to be like, whoa, this guy's trying way too fucking hard.
Because I think a lot of girls are like attracted to that bad boy, jerk archetype that's like doesn't even fucking care about her awful, which I find weird, because I feel like girls just want attention and when guys give them attention and flowers and want to take them out on dates, they're like, ew yeah, so if women rewarded that kind of behavior more men would do it.
But the fact of the matter is like most women don't reward that kind of behavior.
Well, women that don't reward that behavior is probably not deserving of a man that's willing to give them.
Sure, but like I would argue like the vast majority of women are almost gonna be put off by like, why is this guy bringing?
He's like way too, they'd be like, oh, this is kind of like too much, this is too extra.
Bringing the flowers paying, like doing all the well.
It depends on how like into them they are.
You know what I mean.
Or how do they pull it off?
Because like, if somebody's like bringing you flowers and like really simply like I love you on the first date like, obviously that's the turn off.
But if they're like having confidence, having that like confident vibe, energy and they're, opening a door for you and giving you like flower, but then they're not like.
They're not like actively making it a big deal that I would find out attractive yeah, but I don't.
The thing with that though, is I don't think that that's ever going to be the deal maker.
Like if a girl's into you, getting her flowers and well if a girl's not into you, obviously like getting her, like that's not going to be the thing that pushes you from like neutral interest into like, whoa, I really like this guy.
Rather that than like being left unlike delivered or something because like they want I don't know I feel like especially in college Everyone's kind of like playing games Sure.
Exactly what I mean and like I'm just not down for the games like just like you're not down for the games?
No that's why I feel like when you do start actually dating people your feelings are never mutual So that's why girls get turned off if the guy brings you flowers if that happens you guys probably aren't on the same level of attractiveness to each other.
Right.
Be honest if a guy brought you flowers you'd probably think he's a simp.
No.
You guys would think he's a simp.
You guys think he's like if he's like super hot and like salad like it's fine.
Like if it's like a weird stalker or whatever and they bring flowers it's like ew like bye.
Well sure.
A recommendation for the viewers for the chat gentlemen don't bring girls flowers.
It's not gonna what?
No don't tell the chat that don't bring girls flowers.
Don't simp.
Don't do all this extra shit because it's not rewarded.
It's never going to be it's never going to be the deal maker.
For some women they're going to look at you like a like you're a trick like you're way too overly invested.
So definitely no flowers.
It's a waste of money too.
No.
Like honestly, I'm not sure what he says.
Yeah, but okay, the guy who brings you flowers who you already like, you already like, he's already got enough in terms of looks and personality for you to already fuck with him anyways.
Like the flowers.
If you're fucking with him more, you're like, wow, that was a gentlemanly thing of you to do.
Nah, that's some simp shit.
No, it's not simp shit if you like it.
Super simp shit.
Like if you do it in the beginning, like she said, if you do it in the beginning and you're like, oh my God, I love you.
You're so pretty.
And you're constantly complimenting her on the first date.
That's simp shit.
But if you're just like, nice to meet you, like I brought you guys a cake.
I'm not like a simp for you though.
Yeah, but girls are allowed to simp.
Girls are allowed to simp because like most men don't receive that.
And also that was like a professional gesture.
Most men don't receive like that level of attention from women unless they're like hype or like hype or attractive dudes.
Like take your average guy.
He's never been asked out on a date.
A girl's never slid into his DMs.
A girl's never made the first move, tried to like go for the first kiss with him.
So these like sort of gestures, if they were done to a man, would be like very much appreciated.
But it's not the standard for men, like for women to do that.
Men are supposed to be the ones asking to be the girlfriend.
Men are supposed to be the ones asking for the first date.
Men are supposed to be the ones giving the flowers.
Once you're into the relationship, then...
I don't have enough flowers.
No, okay, maybe no flowers, but I don't think it's a bad thing.
I don't think it means you're a sick.
What do you have against flowers?
There's girls who will clown on a dude.
They'll think it's way too extra.
Has it happened to you?
I've never bought a girl flowers, so no.
So you wouldn't know what it's like to get the reaction.
Because you're like, oh, if a guy gives a girl flowers, like, you're not going to feel appreciated.
If you actually did it, you'd probably be like, oh damn, like that, the reaction that they had from me giving them flowers was like really rewarding.
It is.
It is.
Is it though?
Giving people gifts is really rewarding.
I think it's a good thing.
I'm a great receiver.
I'm a great receiver.
Great receiver.
That's feminine.
Wonderful receiver.
My boyfriend bought me flowers the third day we started talking to each other.
And then he told me he loved me pretty early on into the relationship.
And I don't know.
I think it's great.
Because it made me feel good about myself.
I was like, wow, this guy is really interested in me.
Like, he's really invested his time and the effort that he wants to pursue me and everything.
And to this day, he buys me flowers every other week.
That's amazing.
Damn.
A guy that knows what he wants and knows how to keep it is very attractive.
Look, I'm just going to say this.
I ain't buying flowers for these high body count girls, for these promiscuous girls, for these girls that got three situationships at the same time, for these girls who I'm going to buy you flowers and you're fucking another dude.
I'm not directing that at you.
I'm just saying that is the dating landscape.
I'm not buying flowers for a girl who's fucking another guy.
In the South, a masculine can still be seen as gentlemanly if you bring flowers, give some compliments, etc.
But in the wasteland of CA, etc.
It is a sign of weakness.
One of my wife's favorite things is flowers for no reason.
We should do a role reversal.
How about you're going to take me on a date?
We could film it too.
We could do it in studio.
It'll be like a date, but you have to pay for the date.
You have to buy me.
What do you think?
Would you be down?
Yeah.
You're down to take me on a date?
Well, and buy me flowers?
I've like done that before.
You bought a dude flowers?
No.
Okay, I'll be your first.
Actually, maybe I...
No, I haven't.
Okay.
I was like, maybe I bought my boyfriend flowers.
Oh, we can get that scheduled.
Just talk to my assistant.
Just kidding.
Do you actually want to do that, though?
Do you want to take me on a date?
No.
Because you believe in the boss babe thing, right?
Yeah.
So you're going to be a bitch.
I think I said boss ass bitch.
Boss ass bitch, right?
Yeah.
Like, so how about we like flip?
We flip.
We see the dynamic.
Like, you pick the date.
You ask, you take me out on the date.
You pay for everything.
You buy me flowers.
I could do that.
Nah?
Not about it?
Why is that?
Not about it.
She's not about it?
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Good talk.
Good talk.
Okay.
You wanted to talk about interracial relationships too.
Did you date a guy who was different races?
Yeah, he was black.
The three-year relationship?
Yeah.
And it was, I mean, I guess like the only thing I would like just had to say about it was, I guess the only thing different was people did, you know, look at us weird sometimes, like out and about.
There was a lot of judgments towards it.
I don't know.
It's weird thinking that would happen in today's culture and stuff, but like it was.
Were you guys doing it?
It wasn't a problem.
Did you guys do PDF?
We actually weren't PDA.
I feel like most people don't give a fuck, to be honest.
Like as long as you're not being weird in public, most people don't give a fuck.
What was the kind of judgment you were receiving?
I mean, it was like black women.
Was it other?
I feel like a lot of black women will have an issue with black men dating outside their race.
I've heard a lot of black women have an issue with that.
I mean, that definitely was like that was like factor.
But like, obviously you do have like those talks with like the like parents talk.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he said, he said that when we got in a relationship, he had a talk with his mom about dating like a white girl type thing.
What did the mom say?
Like, not like be careful, but like, be careful.
It's diff.
I don't know.
It was just.
What did she say?
What did she say?
I'm trying to remember.
I guess just like, just know that you're going to be looked at differently, type thing.
And it's like, I didn't, I don't know.
I was just kind of like, I didn't think that would be an issue at all.
Oh, wait.
Okay.
Sorry.
Maybe we can come back to that later.
Just I want to get.
We were going around the table on height.
Your boy, you said you're 5'2, your bare minimum is 6'4.
Yeah, 6'4 ⁇ .
Okay.
I mean, if you guys were to ever break up, would you date someone shorter than that?
Yeah, actually, I would.
Okay.
What about you?
I'm 5'5.
I would say bare minimum is probably 5'9.
I don't have an idea.
Sure.
As long as they're 5'9 above, that's fine.
What about you?
I'm 5'4, and I think 5'11 is my lowest.
Is the lowest you would go?
You wouldn't do 5'10?
I would do 5'10.
Maybe, I guess I'll say 5'10 then.
But like, you're 5'4.
What about a guy who's like 5'8?
That's four inches taller than me.
No, no, no.
No.
Never.
No, I don't think so.
I mean, it really is a personality thing, though, sometimes, but like I would prefer over 5'11.
Okay.
Prefer.
Preferably.
I'm 5'5.
My bare minimum would be 5'8, and my preferred is like 6'1 or 6'2.
You said you were 5'5?
Okay.
Preferred is 6'1-6'2.
What about you?
I'm 5'6, and my preferred is like 5'8.
5'8?
Okay.
At least.
Madison?
I'm 5'2.
My preferred would probably be 5'10 or higher, but I feel like I actually don't really care.
I've been with the guy who's like 5'4.
So Nick, do you have that meme?
The height, the height one.
It should already be pulled up.
Oh, can you move?
Just tie this really quick.
This is kind of y'all's.
Just saying.
That guy's definitely like not 5'7.
I know, well, it's an exaggeration.
But you got like 5-foot girls who'd be like 5'7' too short.
No, yeah.
People call preferences, though.
Like, the same dude doesn't have to date a girl with like X, Y, Z. Wait, let me ask you a question.
When it comes to preferences, if I said I don't date women who weigh more than 110 pounds, is that valid?
Sure, if that's your preference.
You don't have an issue with it?
No.
Same way I don't date anybody under 5'9.
That's fine.
What if I lower it to 100 pounds?
Does that change anything?
I mean, I'll be old with concern, but like, it does like 4'11 girls.
You know, but it depends on like the height, I guess.
Like, wait, I short.
Like a girl who's into like 400 girls.
I like short chicks.
I'd say most short chicks are like, honestly, like, I don't know if it'd be my scale, but it's like normal, like.
Last time I checked, 98.
Yeah, I think you're yeah.
Like, most short women are sub-100, I'd say.
So.
Okay, for like 4'11, yeah, that's it.
Yeah, it's like, you know.
Definitely, definitely.
Should we get the scale?
Okay.
For, you know.
Okay, I just made it really awkward.
Sorry, guys.
Okay.
That's fine.
Yeah, that's preferences.
The.
Okay, whatever.
Let's see.
I had some more notes here.
Wait.
Oh, super chat.
We need to do.
Let's do the Twitch.
Or actually, hell yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, guys, go to twitch.tv.
Are you able to scroll down on that right side a little bit, Nick?
I just want to make sure we scroll down a bit more.
Oh, scroll up, scroll up.
Pub test.
Yo, thank you for the hype chat.
Congrats on becoming a Twitch partner.
Yeah, we got Twitch partner.
Awesome.
Scroll up.
Fukuta.
Hype chat.
50 Euro.
Dude, thank you, man.
Sorry, I'm from Belgium and my English is not good, but in Flemish, it is quite funny, and you are the first to pronounce my name correctly.
Much respect for that.
Love you for that.
Love your work.
Did I pronounce it?
Fucuta?
Fukuti?
How did I say it?
Fucate?
Fucati.
Fucati?
Fucati.
You're Belgian?
That sounds like Italian.
Fucati.
Okay.
Did I say Fucati?
Okay.
Beats.
Thank you for the tier one.
Anonymous.
Thank for the tier one.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Cool, cool.
We had a chat here from Grid One.
Sultry.
Oh, wait.
Has an Islam marriage contract which outlines conditions and goals to be met?
Is that it?
No.
He's not even Muslim.
Right, you said he was Christian or is he Catholic?
Like, what is sultry?
Sultry.
Can we here?
I'll Google it.
I think it's sultry.
It's hot and humid.
Suggesting or expressing a passionate or strongly sexual nature or attraction.
Okay, I'll take it.
Like someone who has sultry lips means they have nice lips, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah.
No, he's not one of those.
Is your guys' agreement to wait till marriage?
To have sex.
No, he was my first, so I already had it.
Yeah, she...
But I feel like some people will, like, have sex and then be like, I think we should wait for marriage.
Yeah.
Yeah, they become like Mr. Celibate over here.
Yeah.
Do you have your phone on you?
Can you text him right now?
No, I did.
What did you text him?
Call him.
You should be like, DTF, question mark?
No, no, no.
Do it.
Do it.
He didn't respond.
Delivered or didn't respond?
Do it!
Oh my god.
Just do it!
No, I just, we just, yeah.
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
Instagram DM?
Yesterday, you said tomorrow.
So just do it!
Make your dreams come true!
Just text him, DTF.
Question mark.
No, if you didn't even respond.
No, cause I'm not, I'm in my, I'm in my.
You're what?
I'm in my situation.
Okay.
Let's see.
Good job.
Take it one day.
Yeah, I'm not trying to be with multiple guys at once.
Okay, I had some more notes here.
Oh, Tiffany, we gotta pull up Tiffany's.
Can you pull up Tiffany's Instagram?
Tiffany, do you consider yourself traditional?
My Instagram for what?
Wait, don't pull it up yet.
Do you consider yourself traditional, Tiffany?
Trad?
In today's society, yes.
today's society are you uh you consider yourself conservative too Traditional?
Do you consider yourself modest?
Modest?
Yeah, modest.
A little.
In your dress.
In the way you dress.
Yeah?
Pull up the Instagram.
Are you going to pull up my Halloween post?
Put us on the other side, Nick, before you scroll down.
People are already commenting on it.
No it's the first one.
Sorry there's a fucking truck going by.
I mean, that's not bad for what I've.
Oh, well, yeah, that's not bad.
But, I mean.
You should have seen.
You should have seen all this stuff.
You bill yourself as this conservative trad, virgin woman, but Halloween women.
That's not even any curls.
It's just like her, per.
I've seen worse, for sure, especially Halloween around these parts, but just saying.
Women can wear whatever they want to wear.
I didn't even celebrate Halloween this year.
Yes, they can.
That's fine.
But like, a lot of guys, if you're dressing provocatively, won't take you seriously.
Well, what's like, oh, I'm more talking about like fashion.
Like, I'm saying, like, girls can wear whatever they want to wear.
Okay.
Free nipples.
Not for, not for.
Yeah, like, not everything's for, like, a man's appeal.
You know what I'm saying?
Sure, that's fine.
Like, some girls wear things because they feel good wearing them.
One argument I've heard for why men should pay for the first date is because women have to do more to get ready and like put on makeup and makeup is expensive.
Do you agree with that?
That's actually funny.
I've never thought about it like that.
No, I think because I think guys, social currency.
I also think it's like, like you say, it's a principle thing for us.
Like to see if the man is willing to take care of you or has the ability to take care of you.
I feel like guys always ask like would you date me if you were if I was poor?
But like would you date me if I was ugly?
Like you wouldn't.
Ugly and poor are different.
Women pass on men all the time because of them not being physically attractive.
And poor.
This whole like cope about oh women don't care about looks like that's bullshit.
In fact all of you just said you had a height requirement which is related to looks.
5'8 isn't bad.
Sure, but like we have her over here with 6'4.
You're 5'11.
You said 5'11 or something.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't object to women having a height preference, but like women care just as much or if not more about looks than men do.
I think it's the same.
That could be a hot take, but you think it's the same?
Yeah.
I'd say women care way more.
Honestly, women care way more about looks.
I don't.
Now, I think that men can make up for it in other ways.
Like their personality.
Personality, confidence, humor, status, money.
Yeah.
However, like most men don't have those compensating characteristics.
So like an average guy, he's probably not that funny.
Not making that much money.
Doesn't have any status.
Probably of average confidence, maybe, you know, whatever.
So what does he do?
But yeah.
What does he do?
Who do you think is more superficial, men or women?
Woman.
I don't know, like probably woman, but I could see it being both ways.
Okay.
What do you think?
Wait, can you like explain?
Who do you think is more superficial, men or women?
I don't know, man.
About the same?
Yeah, about the same.
Tea Dog?
What?
Tea Dog?
Tea Dog.
That's your nickname.
Why?
Just answer the question.
Answer the question.
Because they're chill like that.
I don't know.
You don't know?
You think it's about the same?
Who's more superficial?
Maybe women.
Okay.
I believe women are more superficial.
Oh.
I think a woman are a little more superficial.
I think women are very spicky.
Well, I think just speaking specifically on looks, I think there's far more looks-related things that women care about that are outside of men's control.
For example, a man's height out of his control.
His head of hair, for example.
If a guy's kind of balding, and some men start, you might say, well, women have to worry about that later on in life.
There's actually men who will start balding in their early 20s.
Women, like, I'm sure, like, that's got to be rough.
If you're 21 and you're starting to get a receding hairline, bro, 21-year-old girls want a guy with a fucking full head of hair.
It's just reality.
Penis size, sexual stamina, sexual function.
All of these things are out of a guy's control.
Whereas, like, what's the, I'm trying to think, like, the one thing that men care about when it comes to looks, like, breast size, that's kind of, that's out of women's control.
Everything else, like, you can get a, you can do squats.
A woman's height's also out of her control, too.
But men don't care about that.
But you like short women, you like midgets.
Like, not all of us are midgets.
The difference is, though, the difference is, is that I'll date a girl, and some men actually would not, don't like short women.
However, the difference, at least for me, is I'll date a girl who's 4'11.
I'll date a girl who's taller than me.
Yeah, but that's just you.
Not every man.
I would argue that height is much more a deal-breaker for women than it is for men.
Yeah, that is true.
Women also can't control their height, is what I'm trying to say.
Right, but I don't think a woman's height is almost never going to really, most men are never going to really care about a girl's height.
It's more about like titties and ass always.
I mean, face, maybe.
Face too.
Oh, yeah.
What's more important?
Titties, ass, or face?
Face.
All the guys say face.
It's face, yeah.
Yeah, because you can always fix your butt.
Also, can I just say I've never met a person who's under five foot.
That's not insufferably so fucking annoying.
Wait, why?
I hate short people.
Even short people.
She hates them too?
Yes.
Why?
Because they're so annoying.
I've never met.
What the fuck?
What do you mean?
That's the truth.
There's perfectly pleasant short people.
Is your mom?
How tall is your mom?
5'2.
Oh.
You talking about your mom?
No, I'm talking.
No, I said shit.
No, I said.
On your mom, put some respect.
Under five foot.
Show some respect for your elders.
Tiffany.
Under five foot is considered short.
Okay.
That's cool.
I've never encountered that, but I don't know.
Yeah.
Good talk, guys.
Good talk.
Okay.
Let's see.
A couple more notes here.
We have, we need to go, hold on.
I think we got everything with L.
Oh, wait.
I'm against online dating and have tried it out, so I am credible.
Modern dating is so different, especially with social media.
And I genuinely believe that we all need to get culturally shocked somehow.
I also think college dating is such a double standard because everyone low-key wants a relationship but does everything to sabotage it.
Damn, that was a lot.
I don't know what I was on.
Dude, you were on that.
Wait, what was I even, what was it?
Oh, oh, online dating.
Oh, yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'm just against online dating.
I just feel like you catch the vibes, like, IRL.
You know what I mean?
Coming back to you, Nika, we have, you said that you're into femme dom.
Yeah, I like experimenting.
I mean, like, not that that's, like, the only thing I'm into, but not that that's the only thing I'm into, but you know, as especially with the Gen Z, like, being young and experimentative is something I love.
You said that you have super bad luck on Valentine's Day.
Yeah.
Tell us that story.
I feel like I have a Valentine's Ear curse or something.
Tell us what that is.
So every year on Valentine's Day, there's something that happens when I'm like dating, whether it's like not going well or certain situations.
I remember when I was in SoCal, I was dating this guy, dating, I don't know.
Like my, I kind of like dating slash seeing it.
It was an exclusive, but also it was for longer than six months, so whatever you want to call it.
So we went out and, you know, it was a super romantic place and we were having our little dinner.
And when it came to having fun, he wasn't able to get up.
And yeah.
And it was like on V Day out of all the days.
Like, so I started questioning him.
I was like, did you see anybody right before me?
Like, I understand this is not like exclusive or whatever, but like, I kind of felt a little like, you know, whatever.
And his face turned red and I was like, oh, shit.
So this is what's happening right now.
So I was like, okay, well, take me home right now.
And he took me home, and, um, yeah.
And then I found another date for that night, which was...
Same night?
Yeah.
Wait, so you met this guy the Valentine's Day on a dating app.
Is that correct?
Correct.
This was three years ago.
Like my first Valentine's Day.
Like that was kind of weird.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so you met him on a dating app and then you well the person I was saying like I didn't met him on the dating app but I did find myself a second date for that night from a dating app.
Yeah.
Well also we're going to switch into the after show mode.
So TTS trigger is now 69.
You can hit it Nick.
The TTS trigger.
Oh Madison can you hit these other lights?
TTS trigger is $69 and up.
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That's both for Streamlabs and Super Chat.
I'm just going to change the things here in the description.
Hold up guys.
Okay.
So if you guys want to get some chats in, go for it.
Okay, and then you download into dating app, or you have the dating app, and then you messaged a new guy on the dating app.
Yeah, the first person I matched.
And then you, you're, that same night you were able to secure another sex partner?
Correct.
On Valentine's Day, no less.
Correct.
Bro, women have dating on fucking easy mode.
Easy mode, dude.
I don't care how fucking hot.
What time of night did you secure this new guy?
Like 10 p.m.
I don't care how fucking hot you are as a dude.
You cannot go on a dating app and get like turnaround pussy in like one hour.
In fucking possible.
In fucking possible.
I don't care how what you disagree?
No, you're so right.
Bro, you guys have dating on easy mode, son.
Easy mode.
With dating apps, like I heard like on guys that would run out of people to like Saip 1.
Like I heard that's a thing, but I've never seen it on like girls.
Wait, question for you.
What's the most, like, so that was like, so you had sex with two guys in one day?
Well, I wouldn't count the first one because like.
Well, he, it was just a tip, right?
Like, y'all fucked.
No, we didn't fuck.
Oh, he couldn't even.
He didn't even try.
It was really embarrassing.
I never saw him again.
Damn, girl.
Damn.
Wait, did you?
You got to give a guy a chance, you know, like give him a second chance.
No, honestly, he didn't.
Does he know like about whiskey dick?
I know, but he'd never drunk.
Like, he never.
You know what's really interesting about, like, if a guy's sexual performance is subpar, like, women often criticize men for all they want is sex.
But if a guy, like, drops the ball on his performance the first time, like, you're gonna, even though he could be a very nice guy, you're, it's done.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying what I did was, like, exactly, quote-unquote, like, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying, like, hey, like, I'm young, and we were not exactly, like, exclusive, and I didn't want to see him ever again, so I thought I wanted to have it.
Dude, that's dating.
Go ahead, go ahead.
So you seem like a freak.
What's the freakiest thing that you've done in sex besidestabbing someone?
What's like the freakiest thing or the weirdest thing a guy has asked you to do or you've done in sex?
I will tell you.
I got some stories.
I'm not sure if I can get them on camera.
Give us a PG version.
let me think um i mean like pegged guy i'll keep it ambiguous but like fun at the beach but like public beach not a nude beach Okay.
I was expecting.
Questionable and fun.
I was expecting like strap-on dildos and all that.
Wait.
I mean, nothing is ass.
I mean, for me, that's like normal, though.
Oh, wait, what?
What?
Strap-on dildos is normal for you?
Yeah.
Have you ever done with like girl?
Yeah.
With guys.
Like strap-on dildo, fuck a girl.
What do you guys think about guys who want to be pegged by their girlfriends?
I think it's gay.
Yeah.
I also think it's gay for guys to be super into anal.
Yeah.
Do you agree?
Hi, Key.
I mean, maybe not, like, gay, but like, it's kind of, it's sus.
That's a good question.
Would you peg?
Isn't that where the male G spot is?
What?
Isn't it in their butt?
Am I tripping?
I would have used to be like into anal with girls.
No, I would never.
I feel like you eat ass.
She eats ass.
You eat ass and you peg.
She for sure.
I feel like that's freaky shit.
I think that's kind of like.
I feel like you're ready to go to war.
Is that your weapon?
No, it's my fucking, I got chronic back pain, so I'm like digging into my shoulder blade.
Because he's old.
I'm an old man.
Yeah.
Tiffany, get over here.
Give me a pack massage.
I got this story.
It's not exactly like freaky or anything, but it was kind of interesting.
I think it was like two years ago.
I was working for a startup company for basically bringing people into restaurants and I would earn commission for however many people I bring in.
So my creative mind, I was like, how many people want to go out and take me out on a date with me?
Continue.
No, continue.
Okay.
Yeah, so I ended up going on 10 dates in one day.
One day?
Yeah, but like, it was just, it was dates that I scheduled to, like, for the business, essentially.
Wait, how did you find all these people?
Social media.
Did you?
10 dates in one day?
Yeah, like three breakfast, a brunch, three.
You like initially?
I mean, obviously I wouldn't be like, I would like snack on or like have drinks.
These were food dates?
Yeah.
Or like coffee.
Like, not like, yeah, I should have clarified.
I'm sorry.
Like, but the company, because it was restaurant-based, I was trying to drive the business up and bring you people into restaurants.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
And this was, did you hook up?
Did you hook up with any of them, but you're just trying to get them to come eat at the restaurant.
Yeah Yeah.
Was it a restaurant?
Like, different restaurants.
I mean, I'm not going to specify that.
Oh, I thought you were like part of the business and you were trying to generate money for the business.
Yo, that's actually smart.
If you're a chick and your family owns a restaurant, just like set up fucking 12 dates, be like, oh, I really like this place.
Yo, that's some 200 IQ shit.
Yeah, and like, I think it was a restaurant for the dinner one.
And my first dinner and the second dinner was kind of like the first dinner was running late and my second dinner showed up.
So I went back to the bathroom and I tipped the bartender.
I was like, girl, you got to help me out, make some story, make him busy.
So I was like trying to manage wrapping up the first one and then going to the second one without them finding out.
So that was kind of like different places?
Is that the same place?
Well, like I did different places, but for dinner, it was just one place.
So I would just tip the bartender.
They get their money.
Business gets their money.
I get my money.
That's a list.
That's wait.
So I just, I want to come back to your Valentine's story here.
Well, okay, hold on.
There's the 10 dates in a day.
How did you source these dates?
Was it dating apps?
I have quite a number of people on social media.
Just like from the moment.
Was this before or after the this was like before?
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know how much of a fucking Giga Chad you have to be to be able to, as a guy, to be able to get 10 dates in one day.
Do you know what I mean?
What was that term?
Giga Chad.
Do you want to define that for the journey?
A Giga Chad is like a very attractive guy.
Huh.
Legend.
Very attractive guy.
Nick, can you Google GigaChad for us?
I'll show you who Giga Chad is.
I will show you an example of a GigaChad.
My beard's actually looking a little like in that.
I don't know why.
They didn't cut it differently.
Wait, can you scoot into the table a little bit?
You're just kind of.
Yeah, do images of GigaChad.
let's see okay some of these are what Like the demand for...
Wait, hold on.
Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up.
He has like the bullet glamour filter.
Wait, scroll up?
Is this all the way?
Click the third one?
Yeah.
Yeah, wait, put us on the other side.
That's GigaChad right there.
Wow.
Fuck, Myron.
Two musculars and a trader.
That's fucking GigaChad.
Yo, GigaChad, those of you who remembers GigaChad in the chat.
Like, like the emote.
Use our emote.
So, okay, 10 dates.
But dates isn't like just food, coffee, like.
Right, but you still had like guys who went out of their way to come and meet you.
Yeah.
Was this like, just a point of clarification, did you plan this all in one day or did it take you a couple days to plan this one?
It took some planning.
Why?
What's the motivation?
Like, that just sounds terrible.
Money?
I mean, it was a company that I was working for, but also I kept genuine conversation, and there was a few of them that I really liked, and I went on a second date with them for non-work purposes, but you know.
Okay.
Same way you would collab with Kim Pique for business and pleasure, same thing with me.
Did they all of them pay for the date?
Or did you pay?
They paid okay.
Back to your Valentine's Day story.
I'm sorry if you already said this.
Just a point of clarification.
In your pre-show notes to us, you wrote, One time my boyfriend, and I don't know if you made it clear that the guy who had trouble getting it up was your boyfriend.
You said one time my boyfriend couldn't get it up on Valentine's Day, so I canceled the date and went home and found another guy on Tinder and effed real good.
I'm sorry, that was probably like a very late night message, but I use the term boyfriend not as like an exclusively.
That's just me, but it wasn't exclusive.
But you said boyfriend.
So this was a guy that you'd been seeing for a while.
Yeah, like more than six months.
How long were you seeing him?
Six months.
Six months?
Yeah.
Like that's my timeline, like more than six months.
How long?
So you'd been seeing him for seven months?
Yeah.
So a guy you'd been exclusively or?
No, not exclusively.
It was an open relationship.
Okay.
So couldn't get it up on Valentine's Day.
So you canceled the date for your seven-month open relationship and found another guy on Tinder that night and fed.
Yeah.
Get the rocks.
Abdul?
Yeah.
Get the rocks.
Get the rocks.
Wait, can I ask what your body count is if you feel comfortable answering?
It's under double digits.
I go on a lot.
I went on a lot of dates, but that doesn't mean I fucked every dude.
No, I'm wondering.
Under double digits?
So less than 10?
Yeah.
Should we go around the table on body count?
Here.
One, eight, four, zero, six.
Bro, you gotta say it louder.
Six.
Eight.
I don't share my body count because I'm a man of God.
But three fast comers.
We know.
You have six bodies?
That's so surprising.
Wait, what?
She has six bodies.
Why is that surprising?
Because she seems like a really traditional feminine.
I mean, I'm 23.
Six is not.
I mean, compared to some other one.
Like, I don't think six is that much.
Some guys think that's a lot, but like, you should see the way some people be.
Like, you probably know girls, right?
Because you're in the dorms.
You live in the dorms at UCSB.
Some of these girls, their first freshman, is it quarter or semester at UCSB?
Quarter old.
Quarter, yeah.
These girls, their freshman first semester, will put up double digits.
They'll put up 20, 30, 40 bodies.
Like, do you know?
Have you seen any scandalous chicks at the dorms?
I know a few who have double digits.
Just like this year, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how a lot of girls move.
And dudes, there's dudes who move that way too.
Good talk.
Good talk, Tiffany.
Why do you keep saying that?
Saying what?
Good talk.
That's like my filler word.
Okay.
You said another year on Valentine's Day.
Actually, stop.
We're not reading that.
You said it?
No, we're not reading that.
You did what?
Should we read it?
I think we should read it.
You sent it.
You said you wanted to talk about this.
You said that you.
Why don't you tell us?
Okay, fine.
I'll tell you.
You tell it.
I won't say it.
You said it.
Okay.
So that's why I was like, let me provide more context for it.
So this was very next year after that year, I was talking to a guy, basically like it was more like an online relationship because I lived in Texas, he lived in California.
So you know, like we were going back and forth.
I never got any clear communication that it was exclusive.
Like he never called me his girlfriend.
We never even met up for anything.
It was all online.
But you know.
Apparently in his mind we were like exclusive and you know whenever we didn't try to make plans to come to California I came with some of my friends and we met up for dinner and when I met up he was just like very icy and cold.
Like I don't know like whenever I meet up with somebody they just didn't give up the same vibes that it would be online.
Like online would be like always call me FaceTiming, me super warm and like my friend, would have her date, like put her hands on their shoulder or like anything you know, just like to show, like that you know, interesting interest, anything like.
And he would just like sit there and like literally nothing and I was like I was the one putting my hand, like okay, like any interest, like let me know like, so I just didn't get the vibes that I wanted from him.
And then that same night, whenever we were out in dinner, his friends were over and one of his friends I ended up getting his Snapchat and you know it took some next wild night on Lal Hainsley.
So I'll leave it at that.
Okay word, let's see.
We have to get to Nila.
You consider yourself red-pilled.
Yeah, what does that mean for you?
Um, not being a liberal um, being traditional, having traditional values uh, having open opinions and, as people say, like being not being a part of the matrix.
So we can't say that on here, but like just being opposed to.
I keep I keep wanting to say it, but I can't the jab, the Jap, being opposed to like the Jap and all the being opposed to like pharma, and that's basically, what red pill means to me?
Okay, like being anti-government, anti-government sort of word.
Uh okay, so you're red pilled.
Uh, you also said sh you questioned should a woman work question mark, should a woman work?
Yeah, I think the best thing is a woman having the option to work, but also having the option to be able to sit back and not work if she doesn't want to.
Do you agree with that?
That's valid.
Do you think men, a woman's entitled to do whatever she wants?
A woman's entitled to do whatever she wants?
No like, i'm saying like if if, you know if, if there's women that, Do you want to sit back and not work?
I think that's a great thing because I'm sure they offer other things.
And I think it's also valid for a woman to work.
I think it's fine.
Do you think that's a female privilege?
Uh, To not be able to work?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Because there's definitely women, you kind of have a backup plan of like, well, if my career doesn't work out, I can just marry a guy.
I can just find a rich guy or something.
Or just a guy who's prepared to provide.
Whereas like most men, that can't be a thought in our head.
We can't think, yeah, I think I'll just find a woman to provide for me.
Because most won't.
Some will, but vast majority, I want to say it's probably more than 90% of women don't want to stay at home husband.
Yeah, true dad.
So I feel like women don't really find fulfillment within their career and their jobs.
More so, they find fulfillment in people.
So like finding a nice husband, having a family, having kids is what I think women are more fulfilled having a tiring job.
Their jobs to bake the bread like they're supposed to be the oven.
Speaking of which, you said that you had a few boyfriends who were leeches.
Why don't you tell us about that?
Well, it was really just one boyfriend.
Oh, a singular boyfriend.
We were together for almost a year.
We had met on New Year's when I turned 21, and we worked at a famous car company together.
And I ended up letting him move into my apartment.
He did have a house in SAC, which was about an hour and a half, two hours away from where I was living.
And he was paying for his grandma to live there.
So I kind of was like giving him the benefit of the doubt, like, oh, you're already paying for a house.
Like, you could just stay with me.
I was driving him to and from work every day, which was an hour there and an hour back.
And then driving to my job, which was also an hour away.
And I ended up catching him cheating.
Yeah.
And then I just kicked him out.
Good times.
Yeah.
Damn.
Good times.
Yeah.
He didn't pay groceries, didn't pay gas, nothing.
Okay.
He was a major leech.
Yeah.
Do you think you'll find yourself in another situation like that?
No, I've learned my lesson on that.
You've learned your lesson, okay.
And so you said you were paying for everything, is that correct?
Yeah, correct.
And you didn't like that, though?
Well, I think at the time I didn't mind it because I was like, you know, maybe I'm not traditional.
Maybe I want to provide.
And when I, you know, at the end of that, I was like, yeah, this is not for me.
What do you do for work again?
Remind me?
I'm a scientific analyst.
What is that?
What do you do?
It's lab work, so I formulate bulk batches of, I basically make medical testing kits like, sorry, I can't say that.
It's okay.
Yeah, I'm test kits.
Okay.
Dope.
Yeah.
Does it pay well?
Yeah, it pays very well.
Six figures?
No.
No?
One day, maybe?
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe a couple years.
All right.
Okay.
Good to know.
Good to know.
We have.
Oh, we have a TikTok of yours to react to.
Why don't we pull it up?
Yeah.
And then we have some of your tweets to react to, and then we're going to wrap up probably shortly after that.
I want to know if you guys agree with this, by the way.
Can you?
Yeah.
Start it from the beginning.
These are five red flags to look out for in a girl.
If she has any of these, you're better off just not getting involved.
Number one is high body count and no regrets.
If she's proud of being a slut, you can hit it, but don't put a ring on that finger.
Because remember, sleeping with many people ruins your ability to pair bond and obviously makes your current partner less special.
The second thing is having a poor relationship with family.
So if she's disrespectful.
Hide that thing in the corner, man.
All right, go ahead.
That's shit like, I hate my dad, I hate my mom.
Unless she has a valid reason to, then she'll be disrespectful to you as well.
The third thing is she entertains multiple guy friends who want her.
This speaks for itself.
You should know that they probably just want to smash.
And if she doesn't know that, then there's a red flag in itself.
There's no such thing as guy friends, and this really just shows that she loves attention.
Number four, she shames you for having boundaries.
If you express something you're not comfortable with and she says you're just being insecure instead of talking it out with you and compromising, then run.
Number five is gross if she smokes.
This just shows she doesn't take care of herself in the right way.
So let me know if these are valid and if I should drop part two.
Valid or no valid?
Can you just really so recap?
What are the five?
So high body count.
High body count with no regrets.
Like she's proud of being a slut.
The second one was disrespectful to her family.
The third one, oh my god, I'm forgetting it.
Wait, okay, I know smoking.
That was the fifth one.
That's the fifth one, but disrespectful.
Oh, has guy friends.
Okay.
And she doesn't compromise with you.
So she's saying like shit, like you're just very insecure because you don't want her to go clubbing or something like that.
And then the fifth one's if she smokes.
Gotcha.
I agree with you pretty much everything there.
The only nitpick I have is when you say if she's a slut, you can still hit it.
Me personally, like, I don't know if I'm an outlier when it comes to men.
Even if it was just for a one-night stand, I wouldn't want to get with a girl who's promiscuous anyways.
What if she lies, though?
What if she, or what if you, like, that doesn't come up?
What if you just, like, are you just not that type of guy to just hit it in a one-night stand?
Well, no, I mean, I think that, well, I wouldn't want to have a one-night stand, but if, like, there's a girl I'm pursuing, and then I don't think it's necessary to wait long periods of time before having sex.
But, I mean, you can, there's, there's things that you can tell, like, and not always.
Some women are pretty good at hiding it, but you can tell to some degree if she's promiscuous.
But you can also, at least for me, I'm kind of, you can just straight up ask, to be honest.
But you don't need to necessarily straight up ask for the body count, but you can ask, like, okay, ask relationship history.
That can sort of be an indicator.
You can ask like certain questions that might potentially be an indicator of promiscuity.
Has she had threesomes?
Has she had more than threesomes?
Okay, she's had fucking the orgies, probably high body count.
Yeah.
There's other, like, there's certain sexual and non-sexual questions that you could ask her that could potentially reveal promiscuity.
Not always, but there's a lot of other deciphering factors.
You know, when they say, like, you can tell it in the eyes, like, if she's pure eyes.
What's it called?
The thousand cock stare.
Yeah, you can say if you can tell it.
Some girls have the thousand cock stare.
Yeah, so if she.
Tiffany, just kidding.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding, Tiffany.
Wait, I don't have a question.
So, like, all that is valid, but I think an important question to ask is, like, when was that timeline of that body count?
For example, like, like, for my circumstance, like, yeah, I did a lot of stuff that, you know, I shared that I thought it were entertaining, but I don't think there were like good things that I've done.
And when I look back in the past year and a year and a half have completely changed, but does that mean that my potential data is going to judge me for what I've done like three or four years ago?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Your past haunts you.
Absolutely.
Totally.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I'm like, okay.
Well, look, is it?
Obviously, a girl who is no longer promiscuous, but was promiscuous, you could say that's better than a girl who was promiscuous and is still promiscuous.
Some people believe in redemption, but me personally, I feel like once a girl's got a high body count, that's a wrap.
pretty sure the vagina resets after a certain amount of months no that's I'm not even talking about that And look, it is like a bad thing.
I think I'm the biggest red flag then, because I don't find any of those wrong.
You think they're all right?
I think it's, I think if a girl decides to be sexual and decides to settle down, then that doesn't make her a red flag.
If you just decides to settle down, decides to settle down.
Like, I don't know, like, if a girl is like crazy in college and like gets with a bunch of guys, but then like later on, like, wants a family and a husband, like, that doesn't, like, just because she's been with a bunch of people doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve, isn't deserving of those things.
Well, do you have a response and then I'll go?
I would say, no, I wouldn't.
What makes you more deserving than a girl that slept with more people?
I value myself a lot more.
So I deserve, I would say I deserve someone of more high value and usually more, people of more high value, like men, they choose to be with a woman who isn't promiscuous, like Brian here.
So I wouldn't say I'm more deserving of love.
I think everyone is deserving of love.
I'm just saying it's like a standard that someone like he has, someone like I have, and the kind of videos I make promote to red pill.
They promote to high-value guys.
And not usually, but what I'm saying to those guys is if you can get a bunch of girls, don't settle for a hoe.
Settle for a good girl who's going to make your life easier.
But I would even, to add to what you're saying, I would argue that even normal average men have a strong preference for non-promiscuous women.
You don't need to be like a high-value guy.
That's not true.
It's because they don't have, they can't get options.
They don't have options.
Their options are only like the random.
Sure.
So I think, so what you're saying is like a guy who it's difficult for him to get a woman, out of necessity, he might partner with like a woman who is or was promiscuous because that's all he can get.
I would actually argue though that like even guys who struggle with dating, there are some guys who are really not that pressed for pussy.
They're not that pressed to get laid and they do want to pursue a high quality woman who may be average just as he's average.
But I mean I'm confused.
Well what I'm saying is that perhaps out of necessity some guys will settle for a woman who's promiscuous or who has a high body count but I don't think that like men almost innately want women who are not promiscuous or don't have a promiscuous past or don't have a high body count.
Why?
I mean there's a ton of reasons.
So first off having a high body count is a proxy for promiscuity.
Yeah.
Promiscuity is an undesirable trait for someone that you're pursuing for a long-term relationship.
There's the STD component.
The more sexual partners you have, the greater likelihood that you've gotten an STD, perhaps yo, AB check, thank you for the 20 gifted memberships.
The more promiscuous you are, the more people you've had sex with, the greater likelihood of having had an STD or perhaps you have an incurable STD like herpes, et cetera, et cetera.
So, I mean, I think a girl who's had one sexual partner is much less likely to have herpes, for example, than a girl who's had 50 or 100.
Do you want to hear something crazy?
What's up?
So, let's say you marry a girl with 10 bodies and you have a child with her.
That child can inherit the DNA of all the past men.
Oh, I've heard of this.
It's I don't know.
Telogany.
Is that a fact, though?
It's called Telogeny.
You can search it up.
I thought it was called like micro, something like chimerism or no, no.
It's something about chimerism.
I have heard something about women will retain the sperm, sorry, not the sperm, the DNA of men that they've previously had sex with.
I don't know if that study is valid.
I don't know.
I saw the article, though.
Yeah, but I'm like, that's pretty crazy.
What a piece of condom.
I mean, no, I think the guy has to blast.
Yeah, the guy has to come inside.
He's totally blasting.
I think he's got to come inside.
I think.
He's got to blast.
Yeah, so, but no, why body count matters?
Okay.
So on a purely practical level, if a girl is, for example, sleeping with somebody else while she's sleeping with me, it's just gross on a practical level.
Well, that's rude to you.
I'll be like, and by the way, I feel like women can feel this exact same way.
Like if you knew that a guy slept with a girl right before you, you could feel like, oh, that's kind of like, did he wash?
Like, you know, it's different though.
Like, it's a little different between men and women.
But so promiscuous woman with a high body count, she's more likely to be sleeping with multiple people at the same time.
I don't want to like kiss a girl that like sucked some dude's dick yesterday.
Like to me, that's just gross.
STDs, right?
Infidelity, that's a huge thing.
So nobody wants to risk getting cheated on.
High body count equals high probability of cheating and infidelity.
Pair bonding is the other one.
So the more partners you have, the less able you are.
Excuse me.
The more partners you have, the more the less.
Is that fact, though?
The less able you are to bond and fall in love with new partners.
So the more partners you've had, you just start viewing sex as sport.
Like it's just sport fucking to you.
It means nothing.
There's no intimate.
You've detached intimacy from sex.
Once you've, like, it's just the intimacy is gone.
It's just like a handshake.
Good to meet you.
You've rewired your brain to detach the intimacy from sex.
You're also probably not a relationship-minded person if you've had a bunch of casual sex as evidenced by the amount of casual sex you've had.
If you were relationship-minded, you would probably hold sex to be something that you just have within a relationship.
So there's also, I think people want to feel like they're someone special to their special someone.
So if I'm dude number 77 for you, one, why didn't the previous 76 work out?
What is something wrong with you?
Do you get bored really easily?
I'm going to view you as not, you're not a good long-term bet for commitment.
Why didn't you commit to any of these 77 other dudes that you've slept with?
Doesn't that make you more special?
No.
See, I'm just kidding.
That works.
Like out of all these 77 guys on the roster, like you made it.
You made the cut.
Then you're also thinking about all the stuff.
I'm just kidding.
There's 77 guys that she's.
No, I mean, what would be special would be like, she's a virgin and she picks you.
Aw.
Yeah, sorry.
So special.
I would also argue when it comes to body count, it's a social reputational thing.
Men care a lot about respect and respect from our male friends, from our peers.
If we wife up a girl who's like promiscuous and then slept with the entire town, that's going to reflect poorly on us.
Like there's this old saying, like you don't, what's that?
You don't wife up the town bicycle.
Like it's a reputational thing.
People are not going to respect you.
There's also this concept called a nerdy term, but alpha widow.
So I would say, yes, we as men do care about being compared to your other partners.
Part of that is because women can sleep up.
Men can't really.
So I think women have to be very careful with who they sleep with.
Because you can sleep with men way out of your league in looks, personality, and status.
Bear in mind, those men will never commit to you.
The same can't really be said about men.
Like men can't sleep outside of their league typically.
You have like a totally mirror opposite almost.
So typically for a woman, let's say a woman doesn't normally engage in casual sex.
She might break that rule for like a guy who's really fucking attractive.
Whereas men, it's almost the reverse.
Like men will sleep with women that they otherwise wouldn't just based on looks, but have no interest of getting into a relationship with that woman.
So for example, right?
In order for a girl to sleep with a guy, I would argue that that guy needs to be at least physically attractive enough to be in a relationship with.
I don't think the reverse is definitely not the case for men.
Men will regularly sleep with women that they will would never, just on the looks factor alone, will sleep with women that we would never consider for a relationship.
But the reverse is not the case.
Like if a woman's gonna have casual sex, she's gonna try to secure it with like a really fucking hot dude.
So women will break their rules that way, and then men will sleep down with women that they'll never commit to, but it's just they welcome the easy access to sex.
Did you have something?
Sorry.
Sorry to interrupt, but I wasn't sure how long this podcast was gonna be.
We're gonna wrap pretty soon.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Just wanted to check in.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
Probably another 10 minutes.
Oh, I got it.
Thank you.
Sorry.
So does that kind of some of the reasons why men care about body count?
I know I went through quite a bit of time.
So it's okay if they are like plugging in everywhere.
So, well, I do think there is a bit of a difference.
How?
If it's like a transfer of energy both ways, then like doesn't the energy of the man.
Well, I'll address that.
So it is a bit different.
And the other one I forgot to mention, which I think is probably one of the most, I feel like people don't, well, there's an evolutionary psychology basis for men caring much more about women's promiscuity than the reverse.
So it comes down to paternity certainty.
So, for example, let's say I have 10 wives.
They're all loyal to me.
And I'm sleeping with all of them.
I know with my 10 wives that I'm the father for all of them.
They know they we know who the mothers are.
We know who the father is.
The reverse, however, if there's a woman with 10 husbands and they're all sleeping with her, who's the father of the children that she bears?
You don't know.
Now, of course, I'm talking about this from an evolutionary psychology perspective.
In the 1980s, I believe, we've, you know, DNA testing came around.
So, yes, through paternity testing, we know now.
But that doesn't undo, that doesn't erase hundreds of thousands of years of evolution when it comes to males and men needing to ensure paternity of their children.
Because it's what when you have a kid, you know for a fact that that's your kid.
But as a man, there's no real way for us to know with certainty.
So, men care far more about promiscuity because if you're promiscuous, that's an indicator for infidelity.
If you're sleeping with other men, they could be the one that impregnated you, not us.
And we want to, it's a we want to pass on our genes.
So, there's a paternity uncertainty.
But wouldn't you like separate the two?
Like, wanting to like have kids with someone versus like hookup culture?
Like, those are very different.
You know what I mean?
Because, like, women don't have sex to like have children.
Sure, but it doesn't matter.
But, but what, let me ask you a question: What drives us on a biological base level to have sex?
What makes us sexually attracted to other people?
Hormones, but but there's something in our biology, our DNA.
What ultimately, like for example, somebody who is how do I articulate this shit?
Okay, sorry, I'm the even if you have sex with somebody, of course, you don't have the intention of okay, my intention here is to procreate.
No, of course not.
People have sex recreationally all the time, most of the time, probably.
However, our drive to do it has a very strong, like, evolutionary biological root to pass on our seed.
Now, that might not be your intellectual intention, but somewhere in your subconscious, in your like, I'm what's that?
Wait, Nick, what?
Okay.
Um, somewhere in your subconscious, there's that, there's that drive to procreate.
What?
No, I don't, I don't know.
I don't, like, obviously, like, I want kids, but there's a lot of people.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
Why do why are women attracted to Tommy?
Hold on.
Modest Hikima donated $69.
Independent girl.
Can you define independence and how you think independence of women is not contradictory to basic human biology and intuition?
Do you think you do not need a man?
Are you self-reliant?
Will you still be when you have a child?
Um, I don't know if you're referring to like, obviously, I need a man to like make a child, but I think I am self-reliant.
I don't think I need a man.
I just like want one.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't need one.
I don't think any woman needs a man.
Like, just how a strong, independent man wouldn't need a woman.
They're just nice to have.
You know what I mean?
Like, because humans are meant to, you know, connect with each other.
Like, that's, like, one of our purposes.
So I think it's just part of our biology, I guess.
You don't need a ton of people.
You don't need a man?
Do you mean romantically or just generally speaking?
Like, we don't need men in society.
No, no, I think they're both valid.
Like, men and women are both valid in society, but I think that I don't need a man to be happy, basically.
Sure, it's nice.
It helps sometimes, but like I don't necessarily need one.
Do you have a response to that, Nila?
I actually think it's like, right, but everybody, you don't want to be the person who dies alone with their 20 cats.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And yeah, you say like you don't need one, and it's true.
Like you could definitely live alone without a man, but how much more depressed and how much more shitty would your life be without one?
No, I'm saying I want one.
I don't need one.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I don't know what he even said that brought this up, but yeah.
No, I could agree with that.
I think it's a need and a want.
I think we need each other.
Yeah, we need each other for sure.
Do you have any more stories, by the way?
You're good?
Okay, well, thank you.
What?
Can I say my really quickly?
Sure.
But yes, just wanted to say thank you so much for having me on this show.
Thank you for coming.
I just have like time limit on when I get out.
So super nice meeting you out.
And yeah, thank you.
Bye-bye.
I feel like I have one last question for you here.
Oh, okay.
Here's the last one.
Here's the last one then.
It's a quick one.
And I want to start with you.
Ask everyone to rate from Stiffler, ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10.
Go ahead.
I would probably say like six or seven.
I definitely have some points where I was a 10, like a few years back, but I'm working on it.
And especially we got my medication, it like kind of messes up with your body.
So trying to balance that plus like, you know, diet and exercise.
Okay, and I'll go around the table on this.
I know you have to leave, so feel free to excuse yourself.
Thank you for coming.
Appreciate it.
What about you?
How I think I look.
Rate your looks on a scale of one to ten.
I'll give myself like a nine.
Eight.
I think realistically, like a seven or an eight.
This is based off like how I perceive myself.
Yes.
Your looks.
All right.
How I perceive myself, I give myself a nine because ten is perfect.
So there's always room for improvement.
What about you?
Six.
Six.
That's good.
6.5 on a good day.
Accurate.
Oh, okay.
Speaking of, I mean, what did you rate yourself, Tiffany?
Eight.
Okay.
Chat, let's pull up the chat.
Since I'll be petty.
Tiffany says it's accurate that I'm a six.
She says she's innate.
Do you guys think Tiffany's innate?
Stop.
Ew.
Wait, Tiffany, can you take her seat?
What do you give Tiffany, guys?
Tiffany, sit over there.
Take that seat.
Just for the rest of the show, I'm going to wrap up soon.
It's just better that way.
They're so fast.
What do you rate, Tiffany?
Wow, it's going crazy.
What do you rate her?
Keep rating.
What do you rate her?
I don't see a lot of eights here, Tiffany.
I'm sorry.
I don't care, because I think I saw a 9.5.
4, 4, 5.
5, 6, 5, 4.
Christina.
Oh, a woman gave you an 8, of course.
Okay.
That's a lot of people, Tiffany.
I think they're actually shipping us since we're looks match.
What?
That's disgusting.
Why is that disgusting?
34?
Huh?
I'm not into you.
You're a dirty whore.
Wait, I'm a dirty.
I think she said 34.
Oh, I heard that too.
No, I heard that too.
Oh, my goodness.
Excuse me.
Yeah, it's okay.
Yeah, but that's not an accurate representation because all the men on there are probably incels.
No, they're not incels.
Probably.
Should we have them rate all of us?
You think you're more likely to be rated higher by a Chad?
You think you'd get a higher rating from a Chad who fucks a lot of chicks?
Modest Hikima donated $69.
Very doubtful.
Finally, the terrorist sympathizer is gone.
If you want a man, would you call that biology and intuition?
What do you want a man for?
Children?
Are you planning on taking the Sperm and No Child support since don't need no man?
I hate how, like, it's so off topic.
What's off topic?
Oh, the super.
Send the message when we're talking about it, not.
Sometimes there's a delay.
Stochastic decay.
Stochastic.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate it.
Hey, brain.
Sorry, I'm late.
Long day.
I had to feed my Tamagotchi.
I bought some chain male armor for my next date.
Prevent poking.
I partially converted to Islam.
32.33%.
Repeating, of course.
Anyway, T-Dog is a 5 or 6.
Why?
Racism makes serenade, though.
Tiffany, it's...
Racism makes serenade.
Oh.
Because the first letter of your name is T.
Okay, okay.
Like, for example, she'd be M-Dog, I guess.
And Madison would be M-Dog.
Mad Dog.
Ooh, that's a good one.
Yeah, Tiffany.
You misses my chat.
Tiffany wants to age shame me.
It's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
I'm heartbroken.
I'm a little heartbroken, Tiffany, that you won't bestow me with your...
She just looked you up and down.
That's funny.
Okay, let me see.
Oh, we had to react to some of Neela's tweets.
Let's do some of her tweets.
We don't have a bunch of time, so we'll just do a few.
Pull up her media tab.
Oh, wait.
There's kind of a sus one, but I don't know if we should show about.
Which one?
The alphabet.
The one about the alphabet people.
I don't know if that's Haram.
That might be Haram.
I don't know.
No, it's not Haram.
Sure.
Scroll.
No, I think it's the second one.
It's the media tab.
Is that your cat?
No, as a tiger.
Yeah, that's a...
Wait.
That's a cat.
Is that your cat?
People have exactly like it.
It's a cat that looked like tigers.
Yeah, bangs.
What do you mean by a media tag?
Whoa.
Yeah, it's the media tab.
It's this one.
Scroll up.
I saw this, and I was like, what the hell?
All the way up.
Scroll all the way up.
This is like plastics for three.
All the way up, all the way up.
Scroll down.
Put us on the other side, I think, if you can.
Harry.
Men who dress like women are the reason.
Okay, nice, dope, based.
Scroll down, skip this one.
I don't want to invoke their wrath.
You see your girl do this on the night out.
By the way, so the way I want to frame this, Nick, if you can also maybe have the chat pulled up so we can see it.
All these questions that Neela's asking on her Twitter, this is directed at the chat.
So we're going to have some chat interaction here.
Oh, scuffed.
Okay, so you see your girl do this on night out.
What you do, truthfully, bruv, insta breakup.
That's a breakup.
That's a breakup, son.
And it looks like it's a dude that's doing it.
That's a done deal.
She shouldn't be going out to begin with, though.
Your thoughts on that, Neila?
Oh, yeah, she should not be going out there.
My girl should not be going out partying.
She just look at this.
This is awful.
Go ahead, go ahead.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Do you still disagree with the body count thing?
What do you mean?
Like, men, men, because you...
I understand the unappeal, but, like, girls should be able to go out and have fun and go with their girlfriends.
Like...
feel like it's a it's very rock like in my relationship clubbing was something that we discussed that was a boundary that yeah he was like he's like girls go to clubs to find well yeah the reason i'm saying that is like guys go there to find a girl to rail they They don't go there to dance.
Probably girls go there to dance, but like they go there to flex their money, buy bottles, buy tables, and then like find girls.
That's why most men do not like their girls going to clubs.
Do you think that men who don't want their girls going out partying, drinking, clubbing, etc., do you think that that's just him?
that's a guy being insecure i would say or not having trust Yeah, I just feel like if it's a good relationship, they should be able to live their life however they want.
Well, isn't that quite literal?
Like once you get into a relationship, you start putting boundaries on what's acceptable and not acceptable.
Boundaries are valid, but like in terms of like going out, that you should be allowed to like go out with your girlfriends.
Not necessarily to a club, but like I don't know, like if you want to like go to dinner, you know, you know, no, no, that's not what we're talking about.
I know, but like there's like little, fun little clubs in Silver Lake in LA that are like fun.
LA clubs are.
It's not like clubs, but like there's like going out like dancing places.
There's like fun pool places to go out.
Like, oh no, that's a no?
Well, I mean, clubs, bars, no.
These are, these are like single environments.
So you wouldn't go out like on a business meeting to like a bar?
No.
Have you not been to a bar or club?
They're super loud.
A business meeting, I'm going to talk.
I'm maybe like a quiet lounge somewhere, but let me ask you a question.
Would you prefer your boyfriend to not play video games?
He can do whatever he wants.
10 hours a day?
No issue?
I probably wouldn't date someone that plays that.
Okay, so men should not date women that go to bars and nightclubs.
But that's me specifically.
Like, I wouldn't want to date someone that's sitting around all day playing.
And a lot of women don't want their boyfriends playing a bunch of video games.
What about this?
It's a preference.
Would you have an issue with your boyfriend paying for girls OnlyFans?
Uh, yeah.
Why?
Don't you trust your boyfriend?
Well, it's different.
I would argue that the risk of infidelity is far higher.
A girl going to a club or a bar because all those guys want to fuck you.
The OnlyFans girls wants his money.
There's no most of these chicks that like strip, that are sex workers, that are, well, chicks who strip, chicks who do OF, they like look down on these dudes who pay for their shit.
They're tricks.
They're marks.
Like strippers almost never want to date their customers because they like look down on their customers.
They're like, it's unattractive.
So you could argue that like you going out to a club, there's a far greater risk of infidelity than well, that's not you specifically.
Like if I go out on the street or whatever, and there's potential for me to get asked out or hit on.
Yeah, but it's different.
Like when you go to it's different like intentions, you're saying like a bit of intentions, but also like if you go to Trader Joe's and I'm not saying like don't let your girl go grocery shopping, not at all.
You can go out, go live your life, do what you need to do, but these are these are very specific social environments where like hooking up is frequent.
There's alcohol involved.
There's like shady characters that might try to take advantage of you in some way.
This is our like men not wanting their girl to go to the bar and club.
That's just our masculine instinct to try to protect you from like from one potentially fucking the relationship and two from like getting victimized in these environments that attract honestly, a lot of shady people.
So we don't want you to be in a situation that's us trying to be protective, to protect you from being victimized from some guy fucking trying to grab you or being gross or whatever.
So yeah no, I just think I think with every relationship, there's different like boundaries that there needs to be.
I mean, like in my past relationship like I was, like it was a thing like I could not go to clubs this, and when I did oh, you did anyways, even though well like, if all of my girlfriends were going out for like, her birthday and they got a table and I went, it wasn't it was a problem sure, but I would go anyway.
Well, the the thing that I recalled here, when it comes to like, if you go to Trader Joe's and a guy hits on you like look, that's gonna happen.
Like a lot of guys recognize, like you got an attractive girlfriend, guys are gonna hit on you in all kinds of firework.
Guys are gonna hit on you in all kinds of environments.
The big difference though, is that in the history of Trader Joe's, no girl has gone to Trader Joe's and then five minutes later is getting finger blasted in the bathroom.
However, girls be going out to fucking parties and nightclubs and shit.
I've, as somebody who has seen some of the scandalous shit that goes out UCSB number one party, school bro I remember going to parties these chicks be getting finger blasted in the middle of the fucking party.
Going to clubs, they're like people are fucking within five minutes of meeting.
That shit kind of happens.
And then you throw alcohol in the mix.
Your single girlfriends.
They miss you, they want you back doing your fucking hood rat shit.
Like they're gonna be a bad influence and yeah, just not, it's not.
There's also just like a higher risk of having your partner like cheat on you.
I think I don't.
I don't know like i'm so loyal, like if i'm with someone, like it's only them, like always, are you even?
It's even with energy, like people know i'm cuffed, like it's a.
You know what I mean.
Have you ever been out with any of your girlfriends and seen any of them cheat?
Have you ever heard of a girl cheating like does?
I've just heard of a girl cheating, but not the no one that I like know can I here.
I And this was recommended to me from one of my viewers.
Let's say you were married and you're looking to hire a nanny.
Would you hire, like, would you maybe have a hesitation to hire like a really hot, like 21-year-old nanny to look after your kids?
Or maybe would you prefer to hire like maybe an older woman that's not as attractive?
I mean, I don't think whoever's like qualified and have a good time with, like, that's like good enough to watch my kid.
You know what I mean?
I would say most women would much prefer to hire an older nanny compared to like a hot 19-year-old to look after their children.
And what are you trying to avoid by doing so?
Do you not trust your husbands?
Yeah, are you insecure?
Okay, so it comes down to three things, even in the club situation.
Temptation, opportunity, and the means.
And then also with the club situation, there's lowered inhibitions due to alcohol.
So that's even another factor in the club situation.
So temptation, opportunity, and the means.
So I would say probably a lot of housewives, if they're looking to hire a nanny, they'd probably prefer picking like someone who's not as attractive.
I mean, I could be wrong there, but.
I mean, I grew up with a like 20-year-old nanny that was attractive.
That's fine.
And she raised me into the person that like I am.
Look, I'll just say this to the men watching.
Gentlemen, don't be in a serious relationship with a woman who doesn't realize the importance of limiting her own behavior to protect the relationship.
If you respect your partner, you don't engage in activities designed for single people.
And I think that these boundaries, a man not wanting a woman to date a woman who goes to bars and clubs, it's a perfectly reasonable dating standard for commitment-minded men.
And I think it acts as a really good filter against independent women who think that they can hoe around while having a stable dude as a safety net.
Why is it hoeing around, though?
What if a girl's life isn't her boyfriend?
What if they're...
Then back to the streets you go.
But why do you hang out like with your girls at a club?
Why can't you just go to dinner?
Yeah, either.
Were you okay with your boyfriend going out?
Yeah, with his friends.
Like you weren't worried at all that he was going to cheat or that woman were going to approach him.
If women approach him, that's not my problem.
Like, women are allowed to approach him.
It's about his response.
You know what I mean?
Like, if he's like, yo, I got a girlfriend, like, obviously, it's out of my control what other people do in that environment.
I'll just, look, my advice to men, do not commit to women who go to bars, clubs.
That's it.
Don't go to LA.
I mean, I don't know, uh, you, oh.
Oh, yeah, we can go.
Yeah, we, yeah.
Scroll down.
Whoa, this lady, scroll up.
This lady went from 50.
Plastic surgery should be illegal.
That's pretty based.
This is crazy.
Like, look at, she looks young, except the eye, but like, she looks really good.
I agree with you.
I'm not a fan of plastic surgery.
I think women are beautiful as they are.
Next.
Crazy.
The reason why there are so many more tens in the world because of plastic surgery, should plastic surgery be illegal?
Scroll down.
Can you click on the image so we see the full honestly?
Like, she kind of looks better.
She almost looks better in the first photo.
She's more natural.
Especially her lips.
Like, she already has.
I don't know if she already had lip filler, but she already has very full lips.
Yeah.
Why the fuck are you getting lip filler when your lips are already that good?
Yeah.
And maybe she already had lip filler, but like the second one, bro, that's way too much fucking lip filler.
Holy fuck.
Tranny a little bit, if you can go.
Oh my god.
So I think she actually looks more attractive in the first photo, to be honest.
Granted, she did something to her eyes.
Her eyes look a little downturned a bit, but scroll down.
Scroll down.
Oh my.
Okay, we can skip that one.
Let's keep going.
What's the ideal age for a woman to get married?
What do you think?
The ideal age for a woman to get married is in between like 19 to 25.
And then I think after 25, it's like the clock is ticking.
Like 21 to 25.
Okay.
I'd say like 26.
I'd say anywhere from 18 to 25.
I agree.
I feel like 21 to 25 is like a solid age because like you're just getting out of like college and stuff.
Pull it back up.
Scroll down.
What else we got?
Take your girl on in the late night drive to a beautiful spot.
Doesn't need to be fancy dinner every time.
All right.
That's you in Europe, it looks like.
With all due respect.
Okay, this one's unrelated to dating.
Scroll down.
Scroll down.
That's true.
Just scroll down.
Scroll down.
This one's good.
Scroll up so we can listen to the agenda.
Female rappers are pushing on their listeners literally to be scamming hoes.
If you listen to this music, be prepared for your daughter to end up the same way.
Oh.
Do you have any questions?
I just think it's crazy.
Like, they're making music, like, my booty hole's pink and brown.
And have you heard that song?
I think this is my song.
And I was like, you don't want your wife listening to that shit because she starts like inheriting it, you know?
And then she's going to teach her kids that and she's going to play it while she's dropping the kids off to school and your kids are going to be.
She listens to that.
Singing like booty hole pink and brown.
She should be.
Okay.
That's okay.
I don't know.
I think it just is in my culture and environment.
I grew up like listening to that shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
They just say some like foul shit on there and that just funny.
It's not like for real.
I don't listen to that music and like I'm not like my booty hole isn't brown.
Like just because like just because no like just because like you listen to music doesn't mean like you take on like the characteristics.
It does have an impact.
Like even if it's like really minor, it still does have an impact.
That's true.
Super tiny.
That's true.
I think the media that you consume can definitely have an impact.
Yeah, it's like people listening to sad shit, they start getting sad.
It's not the music, it's like the artists too.
Damien Rice.
Like if you just listen to a bunch of Damien Rice, like bro, you're going to be depressed like super quick.
Modest Hikima donated $69.
Don't need a man BC.
I'm independent.
Besides, sperm and child support, business meeting at a bar, going to clubs anyway when against knowingly established boundaries.
But also, I'm so loyal, absolute yikes.
Please join us in reality.
Do you have a response to that?
I'm so loyal.
That's all I gotta say.
I am loyal.
Like, I don't think doing things and, you know, going out and living your life makes you unloyal.
But if it's a boundary, like, if your guy doesn't want you going out to the bottom.
I think it's something to talk about.
If someone has a problem, I think there's a resolution.
I think there's compromise.
If my partner, like, really was like, I don't, like, the club thing, whatever.
I only went to a club one time and it was for a friend's birthday.
And I never went, like, because he didn't, it was a boundary.
Sure, that's fair.
Yeah.
Madison, what did you have?
Oh, I had a question for you, like, relating to that, I guess.
But did you, like, automatically trust your boyfriend going out and doing stuff after he cheated on you?
Or was it like an ease?
Well, it was during COVID.
So I didn't, we didn't have an issue with going out.
Do you know what I mean?
But in general, I feel like after being cheated on, if you're still going to like pursue the relationship, there's some sort of like lack of trust, obviously.
Totally.
Totally.
I got a little bit of trust issues in there, but that then again, that didn't affect like my personal, you know, like I knew that I would never cheat.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, I wasn't worried about myself, you know?
Yeah, I'm asking if you were worried about him.
Like cheating again, possibly.
Only through like the phone, but like not IRL.
We have M1 Grand.
Would any of the girls date a guy who legally owned a firearm?
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Has this been squeaking the entire fucking night?
No.
It's the first time I heard it.
Okay.
But yes, I would date a man that owns a firearm.
I would prefer to date a man that owned one.
Wait, did you say no?
No, I said yeah.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Guys, we're going to wrap up here soon.
So if you want, get your last-minute answer or question or TTS in.
We have Grid 1 Motorsports.
Does Stabby McStaberson have to disclose her stabby past to potential vict or dates?
Oh my God.
She left, unfortunately.
Sorry, man.
Is that something you should probably, I guess?
I feel like, yeah.
If you just Google, I mean, she's got news articles about her.
I'd probably want to know that, though.
Also, my thoughts on that, like, if I got stabbed, I feel like I'm taking a break from dating for a minute.
Like, I'm pretty blackpilled at that point.
I think I'm just like, bruv.
Okay, let's not date for a while.
Or you just, like, pat them down before the date, make sure they don't have weapons.
Nickelodeon, thank you, man.
In summary, I can't, bro, I'm not going to say that.
Can't commit to a bit.
Blondie lied about me for clout.
Nemo can't commit to definitions or stances.
McStabby enough said, wait, there was another chick on the show.
Good luck to you.
Tonight was an interesting panel.
Dude, you misses my chat.
You missed my chat?
Which one?
Oh, probably the one where she left.
Sorry, man.
Arriving late, but shout out to you, Brian, for your hard work.
Hey, thank you, man.
Especially after I'm 32.
I got my little brother's cremation today, earned today.
It was much needed.
Leave it to the OF girl to disrespect the pod two minutes into the show, shaking my head.
Yeah, man.
I mean, Nick said, if I recall, we do a 10-minute pre-show where we just read off instructions for best practices during the show.
We explicitly state, don't be on your phone.
In fact, we say we'll kick you off, I think, right?
Do you say we'll kick you off if you check your phone?
Yep.
So she busted out a fucking Tamagotchi, which I haven't seen one of those since the fucking 90s.
Super random.
I mean, bro, that was probably some like intentional shit, some plant type shit.
But we literally tell them, like, bro, if you have any intentions of like trolling or sabotaging the show, like, I get it.
There's definitely like ops who don't like what I'm doing, don't like the show.
But like, bro, we got people coming in from out of state.
People will fly in to be on the show.
People drive from far distances to be on the show.
So like, you got to be considerate of the other guests that are coming out who are totally innocent, who like you're eating up a seat.
You're just being a dickhead.
You're being rude.
So it's like, it's one thing, like, again, I get it.
People don't like the show.
That's fine.
You don't like me.
That's fine.
But like a lot of people, like, you drove how long to be here today?
About six hours.
Six hours.
You guys are local.
That girl came from, she flew in from the girl who from Dallas.
She came from Texas, I think.
You came from LA?
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's just rude.
It's rude.
And yeah.
But as soon as she said she was bored, in my mind, I was like, yeah, I'm kicking her off, but I wanted to.
Okay, Grid One Motorsports.
Hey, thank you so much, man.
Do not act like you're single if you're in a relationship.
How hard is this to understand?
Your response to grid one.
Do not act like you are single.
Like going out clubbing and shit, that's kind of single behavior.
I mean, I feel like being single means just like being open to seeing other people.
Like, I don't know, being single right now, I'm like open to talking to whoever.
But like, I don't know, for instance, like when I was in a relationship going out, I like wouldn't talk to guys and stuff.
Like, it was only girls.
What do you mean?
Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even like really talk to guys.
But would guys approach you?
Like, would guys approach you when you go out?
No.
Okay.
I literally have this like energy when I'm like in a relationship.
They notice it away.
They notice it away.
They notice it.
I feel like I have that.
It is.
It's like an energy.
They know that they don't want.
Yeah.
I put out such strong loyalty energy.
Do you?
I do.
Okay.
When I'm in a relationship.
Okay.
All right.
I'm just curious, like, I don't know how long I want to linger on the bar nightclub thing, but ultimately, I think what it comes down to is a lot of women will say for a guy to have a boundary of not wanting her to go out to bars, clubs, parties, etc., they'll call it controlling, toxic, insecure.
You don't have trust.
I think this is shaming language.
You're trying to shame men out of using our masculine instincts to keep you out of positions that put the relationship at risk.
I think there's no reason that a man should allow his girlfriend to put the relationship at risk on purpose.
So, and I don't think men should date women who put their relationship at risk.
And by going into these environments, like you kind of are putting your relationship at risk.
Good thought.
I want to try to, like, explain it to you.
So it's like.
No, I get it.
I actually do get it.
If it's a boundary, if someone comes to me with a boundary, I'm not going to be like, oh, fuck you.
I'm going to go out to the club and dance up on guys.
Obviously, that's so disrespectful.
But I'm just saying in certain circumstances, it's okay.
In certain circumstances.
But there's like, I would argue there's a fairly large subset of women that want to be in relationships but want to continue like going out and partying frequently.
You want the comfort of having a boyfriend, but you also want to do like single female shit with your girlfriends and go out and get male attention and party.
Well, it's not for male attention most of the time.
If you are in a relationship, it is not for male attention.
I mean, there's then why even go like you can just have fun.
To meet people.
Why can't you just have fun that to live life?
Have fun with your boyfriend.
What is okay?
So clubs, sometimes you have to pay an entrance fee.
It's super fucking loud.
Drinks are really expensive.
Why not just go to Bevmo, have a night in with your girlfriends?
You guys can.
That's so fun.
That's a great note.
But so why go to an environment where why go to a club then?
Well, also true, a lot of my friends are DJs.
So male friends or female friends?
Oh, this is male friends.
But like those male friends from like elementary school.
Red flag.
But from elementary school.
You don't have any girlfriends.
You don't have any girls that are friends from like childhood.
Like you didn't grow up with any girl, whatever.
that's like a sister like you've never that's like i have so many great guy friends because they're just they're just human Like it's weird to cut off a whole gender when you're with someone.
So let's say you're in a relationship.
It's getting serious.
You've been dating for six months.
The guy's like super committed, super loyal to you.
He says he doesn't want you hanging out with any of your male friends anymore.
Yay or nay.
I mean, that did happen with my last relationship.
And I did not see them.
But in this time in my life, I have developed great male friendships that I probably...
You developed them?
I thought they were from elementary school.
No, I'm saying like in college, like this year of me being single, like I've they probably want to sleep with you.
No.
Text them right now.
They definitely do.
No.
Are they single?
Yeah.
Text them right now.
Be like, hey, what are you doing?
No, that's a weird.
No, they're friends.
Like, I would never be that.
I guarantee you, most of your male friends, if given the opportunity, would sleep with you.
You're an attractive girl, they would sleep with you.
Are they really your friends?
I mean, that's like so weird to think about.
You don't think that if given, if you were like, hey, Billy, do you want to fuck?
They wouldn't fuck.
They'd for sure fuck.
You're an attractive girl.
Hopefully.
I preferred you as a brunette, to be honest.
But what?
Nothing.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it.
Okay.
Anyway.
We can do the experiment.
Pull out yourself.
No, because I don't, that's so random.
Just be like, what do you, babe, do you want to cuddle?
Don't say babe, but.
No, because there's so much like boundaries with male friendships.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not like cuddling with them.
That's all.
But like, most of them would be like if you texted them and you're like, hey, I kind of have feelings for you.
Do you want to hook up?
Like, they'd be down to hook up.
Maybe.
Yeah, so like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
Tiffany's rude.
She's on your phone.
Rude.
For like 10 seconds.
Rude.
Okay, let me do these last chats and then we're going to wrap up.
Conan 19.
I can't believe Brian got Billie Eilish, Lucy Lou, and Selena Gomez on one show.
Who's who?
Who's yeah, I really want it.
Lucy Lou, Selena, who's Lucy Lou?
Grid 1 motorsports.
Single person energy, soon-to-be-single energy, roofy victim.
What the fuck?
Pillow Bider energy, poundtown energy.
You have no male friends, just dudes waiting to bang grid one motorsports.
Roofy victim.
What the fuck?
Energy's so crazy.
Oh my god.
Wow, that's crazy.
I don't know.
I think I'd feel when it comes to like male friends, I'd probably feel pretty uncomfortable if my girlfriend was like hanging out with her male.
Oh, I think there's boundaries to it.
Like, I wouldn't hang out alone with my male friends.
Like, it would be in a friend group.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I wouldn't go out to lunch with a guy best friend.
Yeah.
The shizzle.
In a relationship.
The shizzle.
Good talk.
Okay.
I'm going to wrap up.
Do you guys have a final thought from anybody?
Last thing you guys want to hit on?
Should we just wait?
Go pull up her TikTok or not, sorry, her Twitter really quick.
I just want to get to the very end.
There was like one or two more that I saw that were pretty good.
Just scroll down.
Oh, you clicked on it.
You clicked on it.
Click off.
Go back.
Go back.
No, you clicked Bach.
You clicked.
Top left.
Bro, bro, bro, bro.
Move up.
Move up.
Bro.
You have anger issues.
I don't have anger issues.
There's literally a fucking girl twerking, and Nick is staying on it.
Hello?
Okay, just never mind.
Never mind.
I want to add one more thing.
What's up?
I just said my bad.
Yeah.
What's up?
Brand said he's a nationalist, not a white nationalist.
I didn't know there was a difference.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Did he, like, text you?
Is he watching the show?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you for clarifying that.
Although he, you said he listens to.
Okay.
All right.
I think, hold on.
Yeah, we're all caught up.
Anything final?
Anybody else?
Okay, let me see.
Who am I going to raid on Twitch?
Let's see.
One sec, guys.
And then we're going to wrap.
Oh, can you pull up the Twitch?
I need to.
I'm going to shout people out.
Yo, Miss Sitara, thank you for the prime.
Fried, thank you for the prime.
Ocarina Blue, thank you for the tier one.
Appreciate it, man.
All right, let me see who we're going to.
Oops, fuck.
Damn it, I didn't mean to do that.
Okay, there's nobody to raid on Twitch.
Never mind.
All right, guys.
Thank you for tuning in tonight.
Hold up.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, last call, guys.
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